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I am no prude, but I just can not believe all the guys on this site that brag about getting BBBJ or BBFS at a Massage Parlor or from a Street Walker. Trust me if they gave one to you, they a gave on to the last guy too. And, well, gee. There are only about 5 STD's that can be transmitted with this kind of activity. It you don't believe me take a look at:
http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp
I don't mean to get off on a rant, but there was a whole discussion on a Warren, Ohio, MP named Sun and how wonderful it was because of all the BB services. Then the idiots would talk about after 6 months to a year all of a sudden there favorite provider would disapear. Gee you don't suppose she is sick do you? I will admit I have enjoyed the place a few times, but I'm not going back now that I know it is an STD pit.
I am no prude, but I just can not believe all the guys on this site that brag about getting BBBJ or BBFS at a Massage Parlor or from a Street Walker. Trust me if they gave one to you, they a gave on to the last guy too. And, well, gee. There are only about 5 STD's that can be transmitted with this kind of activity. It you don't believe me take a look at:
I don't mean to get off on a rant, but there was a whole discussion on a Warren, Ohio, MP named Sun and how wonderful it was because of all the BB services. Then the idiots would talk about after 6 months to a year all of a sudden there favorite provider would disapear. Gee you don't suppose she is sick do you? I will admit I have enjoyed the place a few times, but I'm not going back now that I know it is an STD pit. Anytime I start reading reports about BB services at a massage parlor I am outa there. Not only is it risky, but the reports encourage the roaming BB brigade to descend on that particular AMP spiking the BB activity even more.
I should clarify that I need to see several reports that appear legit to confirm this before I stop visiting. If you get a kiss on the shaft before the condom is put on that doesn't count as a BBBJ
Member #4565
06-12-12, 19:11
You mean the Tina that everybody knows has HIV?
Congratulations!
Montana.
I saw old tina walking around the other day. Picked her up, she seems happy lately. 40 BBBJ + bbfscip. I have digits for senior members.
I saw old tina walking around the other day. Picked her up, she seems happy lately. 40 BBBJ + bbfscip. I have digits for senior members.Your handle says it all. You do know that you just BBFS with an HIV+ escort, don't you? You should be so proud.
BobJones2011
06-12-12, 20:30
I saw old tina walking around the other day. Picked her up, she seems happy lately. 40 BBBJ + bbfscip. I have digits for senior members.I hope you are only kidding. Bareback with a StreetWalker is just plain bat shit crazy. It is not exciting; it is not funny. But it is sad. Hopefully after you get tested for the next six months you will be negative for any virus. Be safe and have fun.
BJ2011
I hope you are only kidding. Bareback with a StreetWalker is just plain bat shit crazy. It is not exciting; it is not funny. But it is sad. Hopefully after you get tested for the next six months you will be negative for any virus. Be safe and have fun.
BJ2011Maybe this is Pinoboy with a new name in here. LMAO! Well, if it is Pinoboy, your ways have just caught up with you.
I can't understand the desire to mess with street walkers. Almost all of them are drug addicts that will do ANYTHING to get their high and that includes BBFS. They arnt clean, smell like a tuna truck, have probably many diseases and just plain disgusting. Yet, alot of mongers will roll the dice and pick them up. YUCK.
Just my 2 cents.
Good luck on staying HIV.
Maybe this is Pinoboy with a new name in here. LMAO! Well, if it is Pinoboy, your ways have just caught up with you.Because I know how much you were just hoping that was me in disguise huh? At least you and your compadres now have another mark in whom to serenade to concerning all things BB. Hooray for you!
Oh and keep eatin those pussies out there everyone! Because we all know there's absolutely no chance of getting the HIV through that right? But of course there is. Surely you all knew that! But I guess it's ok since "supposedly" the risk is small in comparison. Go ahead and slap yourself upside the head if you believe that! But hey if it helps you sleep better at night without constant worry go ahead and think that. Just ask yourself, how is it any safer for my bare mouth to be all up in some tainted pussy versus my bare dick? Anyone?
I can't understand the desire to mess with street walkers. Almost all of them are drug addicts that will do ANYTHING to get their high and that includes BBFS. They arnt clean, smell like a tuna truck, have probably many diseases and just plain disgusting. Yet, alot of mongers will roll the dice and pick them up. YUCK.
Just my 2 cents.
Good luck on staying HIV.
I completely agree and yet too many out there take the suicide mission of getting involved with a SW. If I needed it that badly I would take the situation in hand, so to speak. Why do this when you are risking your life with every possible deadly disease you can get?
I will NOT ever understand the so-called "thrill" of the SW challenge?
Do you seriously not realize how naive that whole entire post sounds? What makes you think your not "risking your life" with all these online gals? In case you didn't know, one of the "safe" providers just got busted for escorting while knowingly infected with HIV. Yeah, the type with the ads with pics and all. NOT a streetwalker! She could have been a previous or future dream of yours for all you know. She's definitely hot enough to make you want to lick all up in her HIV infested pussy (of course assuming you had no clue of her status). You do know that quite a bit of those on BP and such are, or have been working the streets at some point don't you?
I will NOT understand the so-called "risk free" attitude that so many of you seem to have with the online providers. Sure, the risk may be smaller, but it's still there regardless. Perhaps you should strongly consider putting that hand to good use NOW and exit the hobby altogether for your own good. And if and when you do decide to quit, make sure you get tested periodically for the next six months just to be sure you don't already have something you didn't know about. Better yet, make it a year just to be on the safe side!Well said Pinoby, I too have a hard time understanding that thought process, this hobby is a risk period. You take as much risk walking into a sting from an advertised provider as you do when swooping in to make the pick up. It is not about if it happens to you but rather when it will happen, a game of odds. These days i prefer the odds of an advertised well documented provider that i am able to have some time with and enjoy. For some reason this past year the SW experience has lost the thrill it provided in my younger years, most likely do the the payoff verus the risk. If i am taking a chance then i really want to feel skin and take my time.
SpecialOne8
06-14-12, 16:08
This is why the word "caution" is such an underrated word when it cums to street-talent.
You mean the Tina that everybody knows has HIV?
Congratulations!
Montana.
SpecialOne8
06-14-12, 17:43
Pino, all of us know the risks associated with the game of Russian Roulette, but you my friend play the game with ALL the chambers loaded. THAT is what separates those of us who lack a death-wish from you and your buddies.
While engaging in oral copulation has risks, it is IMPOSSIBLE to contract HIV while performing such on an infected woman IF you do not have open sores in your mouth or bleeding gums. At least that's what JAMA and LINCET have stated since the late 1990s. This is also why it is next to impossible for a man to contract HIV from intercourse with an infected woman due to lack of protection. Having said that, I remind you of the loaded-gun scenario my friend. Not to mention what you are doing has the potential to be considered assault since you are engaging in an act your "partner" has not consented to ALA. CIP.
Furthermore; if we were to use the analogy of boarding one of two airplanes where one is from an airline with a stellar safety and service record, and the other with a spotted-past including plane crashes once every 50 flights or so, which airline would you be buying a ticket to paradise from? That's why so many of us use providers with flawless "safety-records" rather than (to use your term)"tried and true" or "old reliable". Is there risk? Sure, but from where I stand, the odds are WAY in my favor.
While I enjoy your reports and humor, I think your lack of respect for what you could be doing not only to yourself, but your partners (whether SWs and / or a long-term GF) is not only suicidal, but insanity!
Well said Pinoby, I too have a hard time understanding that thought process, this hobby is a risk period. You take as much risk walking into a sting from an advertised provider as you do when swooping in to make the pick up. It is not about if it happens to you but rather when it will happen, a game of odds. These days i prefer the odds of an advertised well documented provider that i am able to have some time with and enjoy. For some reason this past year the SW experience has lost the thrill it provided in my younger years, most likely do the the payoff verus the risk. If i am taking a chance then i really want to feel skin and take my time.
Pino, all of us know the risks associated with the game of Russian Roulette, but you my friend play the game with ALL the chambers loaded. THAT is what separates those of us who lack a death-wish from you and your buddies.
While engaging in oral copulation has risks, it is IMPOSSIBLE to contract HIV while performing such on an infected woman IF you do not have open sores in your mouth or bleeding gums. At least that's what JAMA and LINCET have stated since the late 1990s. This is also why it is next to impossible for a man to contract HIV from intercourse with an infected woman due to lack of protection. Having said that, I remind you of the loaded-gun scenario my friend. Not to mention what you are doing has the potential to be considered assault since you are engaging in an act your "partner" has not consented to ALA. CIP.
Furthermore; if we were to use the analogy of boarding one of two airplanes where one is from an airline with a stellar safety and service record, and the other with a spotted-past including plane crashes once every 50 flights or so, which airline would you be buying a ticket to paradise from? That's why so many of us use providers with flawless "safety-records" rather than (to use your term)"tried and true" or "old reliable". Is there risk? Sure, but from where I stand, the odds are WAY in my favor.
While I enjoy your reports and humor, I think your lack of respect for what you could be doing not only to yourself, but your partners (whether SWs and / or a long-term GF) is not only suicidal, but insanity!This was a very well-written and sensible post, SP18. You said what needed to be said in grand style, my friend.
Pino, all of us know the risks associated with the game of Russian Roulette, but you my friend play the game with ALL the chambers loaded. THAT is what separates those of us who lack a death-wish from you and your buddies.
While engaging in oral copulation has risks, it is IMPOSSIBLE to contract HIV while performing such on an infected woman IF you do not have open sores in your mouth or bleeding gums. At least that's what JAMA and LINCET have stated since the late 1990s. This is also why it is next to impossible for a man to contract HIV from intercourse with an infected woman due to lack of protection. Having said that, I remind you of the loaded-gun scenario my friend. Not to mention what you are doing has the potential to be considered assault since you are engaging in an act your "partner" has not consented to ALA. CIP.
Furthermore; if we were to use the analogy of boarding one of two airplanes where one is from an airline with a stellar safety and service record, and the other with a spotted-past including plane crashes once every 50 flights or so, which airline would you be buying a ticket to paradise from? That's why so many of us use providers with flawless "safety-records" rather than (to use your term)"tried and true" or "old reliable". Is there risk? Sure, but from where I stand, the odds are WAY in my favor.
While I enjoy your reports and humor, I think your lack of respect for what you could be doing not only to yourself, but your partners (whether SWs and / or a long-term GF) is not only suicidal, but insanity!The shuttle had a flawless record until the Challenger
This monger is playing a dangerous game!
Originally Posted by BBcipKing [View Original Post]
I saw old tina walking around the other day. Picked her up, she seems happy lately. 40 BBBJ + bbfscip. I have digits for senior members.
Good thing hat he is posting it and we know who to stay away from.
Good luck with that!
I don't recall a famous provider in town recently being busted for this the last one I remember was Tina. So you have knowledge of this provider and never reported it to the rest of the board? Just shows you are not here to provide good information that is needed to the rest of the group!
Do you seriously not realize how naive that whole entire post sounds? What makes you think your not "risking your life" with all these online gals? In case you didn't know, one of the "safe" providers just got busted for escorting while knowingly infected with HIV. Yeah, the type with the ads with pics and all. NOT a streetwalker! She could have been a previous or future dream of yours for all you know. She's definitely hot enough to make you want to lick all up in her HIV infested pussy (of course assuming you had no clue of her status). You do know that quite a bit of those on BP and such are, or have been working the streets at some point don't you?
I will NOT understand the so-called "risk free" attitude that so many of you seem to have with the online providers. Sure, the risk may be smaller, but it's still there regardless. Perhaps you should strongly consider putting that hand to good use NOW and exit the hobby altogether for your own good. And if and when you do decide to quit, make sure you get tested periodically for the next six months just to be sure you don't already have something you didn't know about. Better yet, make it a year just to be on the safe side!
I don't recall a famous provider in town recently being busted for this the last one I remember was Tina. So you have knowledge of this provider and never reported it to the rest of the board? Just shows you are not here to provide good information that is needed to the rest of the group!Never said she was famous and I figured posting her identity would net me yet another infraction But what the hell.
http://folksalert.com/warning-young-cute-19-year-old-gfe-prostitute-is-hiv-positive/
Pino, all of us know the risks associated with the game of Russian Roulette, but you my friend play the game with ALL the chambers loaded. THAT is what separates those of us who lack a death-wish from you and your buddies.
While engaging in oral copulation has risks, it is IMPOSSIBLE to contract HIV while performing such on an infected woman IF you do not have open sores in your mouth or bleeding gums. At least that's what JAMA and LINCET have stated since the late 1990s. This is also why it is next to impossible for a man to contract HIV from intercourse with an infected woman due to lack of protection. Having said that, I remind you of the loaded-gun scenario my friend. Not to mention what you are doing has the potential to be considered assault since you are engaging in an act your "partner" has not consented to ALA. CIP.
Furthermore; if we were to use the analogy of boarding one of two airplanes where one is from an airline with a stellar safety and service record, and the other with a spotted-past including plane crashes once every 50 flights or so, which airline would you be buying a ticket to paradise from? That's why so many of us use providers with flawless "safety-records" rather than (to use your term)"tried and true" or "old reliable". Is there risk? Sure, but from where I stand, the odds are WAY in my favor.
While I enjoy your reports and humor, I think your lack of respect for what you could be doing not only to yourself, but your partners (whether SWs and / or a long-term GF) is not only suicidal, but insanity!So let me get this straight. According to your little analogy, it's okay to play Russian Roulette as long as some of the chambers are empty? Because in essence, that is what basically every participating member of this board is doing to some degree. IMO, any monger going down on providers is at or above the level of riskiness associated with going BBFS. Why? Well you just mentioned it in your post regarding open sores or bleeding gums. Do you really think you'd be aware of every break in the tissue inside your mouth? Certainly you have in some point encountered bleeding of the mouth no matter how small after brushing or flossing even if you don't see it, or from biting your tongue as surely everyone does from time to time. And for those of you who actually make regular visits for cleanings at the dentist, you can't tell me you don't spit out some degree of blood in the bowl when you go to rinse. That just goes to show how very fragile the linings of the mouth are. You will NEVER know that many of these potential entry points exist. Think about that next time your dining on some sweet tasting pussy. That sir is direct access into your bloodstream!
Now to point out your contradiction of yourself-you say it's "impossible" to catch anything minus open sores or bleeding, but at the same time you state the virtual impossibility of contracting HIV through unprotected sex from an infected woman. Kinda sounds like your saying BBFS for a man is just about as "safe" as DATY? I certainly don't understand the logic in that! Nor do I understand the logic in the mongers here (one in particular) who are so adamant about not seeing a provider after I have so-called "spoiled the fruit" before them. I don't even need to elaborate on how asinine such a point of view is. Anyone with half a brain can see the so very flawed reasoning behind that.
Likstrange
06-16-12, 07:22
To you guys who want to bbfscip, do you really want to have a child of yours running around live the life of a streetwalkers child or worse? The SW may say she's fixed, but they've been known to lie. Just a thought.
TRowePrice
06-16-12, 14:28
To you guys who want to bbfscip, do you really want to have a child of yours running around live the life of a streetwalkers child or worse? The SW may say she's fixed, but they've been known to lie. Just a thought.I agree, even if you like going bare, the thought of a kid, makes you want to strap up.
Invest in bare skin from trojan, I find them very easy to use, and its very strong, try tearing it apart.
SpecialOne8
06-18-12, 03:41
That may be, but the shuttle-fleet also did not have hundreds of thousands of lift-offs and landings over it's thirty-year service-span. How many flights of just the top-three commerical air-carriers were conducted during this same thirty years Vs. The number of crashes they suffered COMBINED? Needless to say, you don't have to be a mensa-member to see the odds are still in your favor riding one dream than the other!
The shuttle had a flawless record until the Challenger
SpecialOne8
06-18-12, 03:55
Pino, how you manange to look at two different scenarios and cum up with the exact same conclusion is truly amazing to me. All I shall add at this point is further encouragement for you and your homies to continue posting your FSCIP victims, so the rest of us can continue to avoid them. Oh, and BTW, AIDS is only the worst thing you can contract from bare-backing a street-hooker (or any hooker for that matter.) It's far-more likely you'll be "clapping" long before you fire that deciding round from the Saturday-night special you carry in your pants.
Good luck Pino; I truly wish you the best, but when the odds end up being against you, don't tell the rest of us we're just as likely as you to end up the same way.
SO-8.
So let me get this straight. According to your little analogy, it's okay to play Russian Roulette as long as some of the chambers are empty? Because in essence, that is what basically every participating member of this board is doing to some degree. IMO, any monger going down on providers is at or above the level of riskiness associated with going BBFS. Why? Well you just mentioned it in your post regarding open sores or bleeding gums. Do you really think you'd be aware of every break in the tissue inside your mouth? Certainly you have in some point encountered bleeding of the mouth no matter how small after brushing or flossing even if you don't see it, or from biting your tongue as surely everyone does from time to time. And for those of you who actually make regular visits for cleanings at the dentist, you can't tell me you don't spit out some degree of blood in the bowl when you go to rinse. That just goes to show how very fragile the linings of the mouth are. You will NEVER know that many of these potential entry points exist. Think about that next time your dining on some sweet tasting pussy. That sir is direct access into your bloodstream!
Now to point out your contradiction of yourself-you say it's "impossible" to catch anything minus open sores or bleeding, but at the same time you state the virtual impossibility of contracting HIV through unprotected sex from an infected woman. Kinda sounds like your saying BBFS for a man is just about as "safe" as DATY? I certainly don't understand the logic in that! Nor do I understand the logic in the mongers here (one in particular) who are so adamant about not seeing a provider after I have so-called "spoiled the fruit" before them. I don't even need to elaborate on how asinine such a point of view is. Anyone with half a brain can see the so very flawed reasoning behind that.
SpecialOne8
06-18-12, 19:28
Look BB, I'm not ragging on you or anyone else who BBs girls (unless they do it without the girl's knowledge) but PLEASE don't compare your lifestyle to that of someone who eats fast food or takes drags on a cancer-stick. They're are not interchangeable behaviors. You don't get heart disease from eating a big mac three times a month, nor does one get cancer from a drag on an occasional cigarette. But you CAN die from having sex just once with the wrong partner whether it be a bar-fly at 2:20AM or a rode-hard and put-up-wet street-hooker during unprotected sex. It IS a game of Russian Roulette whether you guys see it that way or not, and your desire to look the other way not only increases the risks for those of us who use the same BP and other girls you do, but affects persons who never had a choice in the decision individuals such as yourself make. This is the reason others here on the board have ragged on you guys incessantly.
Look, this isn't a fighting board. I enjoy BBFS, you don't have to. I get tested monthly and have been doing BBFS for about 8 years and have not caught anything.
People were quick to say I had BBFS with a known hiv infected provider. You don't even know who the provider is. I've seen no pictures identifying the strretwalker I was with. I've also been BBFS with her before throughout the years and I'm still HIV free, so I doubt we are talking about the same Tina.
Now, I use to report on these boards on a regular basis, not as this name but another. What happened to sharing information? I'm getting flamed cause I like to nail girls in a natural way.
How many or you smoke cigarettes? How many of you eat fast food? Two VERY unnatural products that WILL kill you. And you say I have a deathwish?
So here is what I propose: if anyone on this board participates in any activity that could cause your death, now or in the future, do not comment negatively about my posts.
Examples of such activity: smoking, sports, eating, driving, life (which happens to be the leading cause of death) each of these examples kill more people every year than AIDS.
Cephlapod Love
07-04-12, 00:08
But you CAN die from having sex just once with the wrong partner whether it be a bar-fly at 2:20AM or a rode-hard and put-up-wet street-hooker during unprotected sex. It IS a game of Russian Roulette whether you guys see it that way or not, and your desire to look the other way not only increases the risks for those of us who use the same BP and other girls you do, but affects persons who never had a choice in the decision individuals such as yourself make.Ah, not a connoisseur of BB myself but it sure appears as though the statements of "fact" in this retort are indicative of fear and ignorance.
Look the fact is that contracting an HIV infection is no longer a death sentence As it once was in the beginning of the epidemic. Apparently the hysteria from the early days of the epidemic remain, in spite of the advances of time, medical knowledge and technology. To claim that BB sex is a game of Russian Roulette is an insult to the Russians and to intelligence of those who have educated themselves in this area.
Fact is that I recently went for an HIV test in the heart of the Gayborhood in Philadelphia (hey, it was free! AND I'm not a homophobe) and the nurse that administered the pin-prick, blood test advised me of some pretty interesting facts. I mean really? At the front line of the AIDS epidemic, in the gay community, they told me this?
A. With the current anti-retro viral drugs out there now, a diagnosis of HIV positive is no longer a death sentence.
B. AIDS is easily managed with current drugs as a "chronic aliment."
B. Transmission from female to male through normal vaginal intercourse is relatively low as long as there are no open sores, lesions or open skin on the genitals or genital area.
C. Risk of female to male transmission increases if one engages in unprotected anal sex.
To tell the truth, I was astonished by this information from those on the leading edge of the AIDS "battle." It was almost like she was approving BB sex as a low risk endeavor. [Yeah, I know she wasn't doing that, just giving facts and educating me. ] But it was enlightening to say the least.
Ah, not a connoisseur of BB myself but it sure appears as though the statements of "fact" in this retort are indicative of fear and ignorance.
Look the fact is that contracting an HIV infection is no longer a death sentence As it once was in the beginning of the epidemic. Apparently the hysteria from the early days of the epidemic remain, in spite of the advances of time, medical knowledge and technology. To claim that BB sex is a game of Russian Roulette is an insult to the Russians and to intelligence of those who have educated themselves in this area.
Fact is that I recently went for an HIV test in the heart of the Gayborhood in Philadelphia (hey, it was free! AND I'm not a homophobe) and the nurse that administered the pin-prick, blood test advised me of some pretty interesting facts. I mean really? At the front line of the AIDS epidemic, in the gay community, they told me this?
A. With the current anti-retro viral drugs out there now, a diagnosis of HIV positive is no longer a death sentence.
B. AIDS is easily managed with current drugs as a "chronic aliment."
B. Transmission from female to male through normal vaginal intercourse is relatively low as long as there are no open sores, lesions or open skin on the genitals or genital area.
C. Risk of female to male transmission increases if one engages in unprotected anal sex.
To tell the truth, I was astonished by this information from those on the leading edge of the AIDS "battle." It was almost like she was approving BB sex as a low risk endeavor. [Yeah, I know she wasn't doing that, just giving facts and educating me. ] But it was enlightening to say the least.I agree that there is a wide awareness gap when it comes to HIV. I concur with what the Nurse said but I don't agree with your logical deduction of what she said. Yes, HIV is manageable assuming it is diagnosed early. That is why it is advisable to get tested once a year if one has multiple partners. Unprotected anal is high risk. Unprotected vaginal intercourse remains a risk for HIV and other STDs. In fact, other STDs such as Herpes and syphilis can be contracted easily (even after a single unprotected encounter).
Stay safe
I agree that there is a wide awareness gap when it comes to HIV. I concur with what the Nurse said but I don't agree with your logical deduction of what she said. Yes, HIV is manageable assuming it is diagnosed early. That is why it is advisable to get tested once a year if one has multiple partners. Unprotected anal is high risk. Unprotected vaginal intercourse remains a risk for HIV and other STDs. In fact, other STDs such as Herpes and syphilis can be contracted easily (even after a single unprotected encounter).
Stay safeWhy risk getting other diseases from BB anything. I don't get it. I've seen guys take pics of girls on here that are drugged out of their mind, needle marks, no teeth, heavily bruised with open sores. And they have BBFS. You have to pay for the cure. And if you catch HIV, it's expensive to treat. You'll be on drugs that cause tons of side effects. And if you have a gf or wife you will most likely give it to them. On the days, of CL, one guy got a BBBJCIM with this one girl and got gonorrhea because she had it her mouth. You have to go to a clinic or a doctor. Tell them what happened. And they can deduce what happened. Doctors are not dumb. Then your insurance finds out and raises your premium because you are living a high risk lifestyle. The cost for a little loss in feeling and 5 dollars for a box of condoms verse catching a STD is not worth it.
SmileyScout
08-20-12, 03:19
Why risk getting other diseases from BB anything. I don't get it. I've seen guys take pics of girls on here that are drugged out of their mind, needle marks, no teeth, heavily bruised with open sores. And they have BBFS. You have to pay for the cure. And if you catch HIV, it's expensive to treat. You'll be on drugs that cause tons of side effects. And if you have a gf or wife you will most likely give it to them. On the days, of CL, one guy got a BBBJCIM with this one girl and got gonorrhea because she had it her mouth. You have to go to a clinic or a doctor. Tell them what happened. And they can deduce what happened. Doctors are not dumb. Then your insurance finds out and raises your premium because you are living a high risk lifestyle. The cost for a little loss in feeling and 5 dollars for a box of condoms verse catching a STD is not worth it.Why do people play the lottery when it's mathematically stupid? Why do we drink when it can cause a whole range of life-threatening illnesses? Why go hiking in the woods when it could end up killing you? It's because the rewards outweigh the risks. The same goes for BB. For you, a condom is just a little less in feeling, so going BB isn't worth the risk. But some guys literally cannot cum with a condom on, for whatever reason, so going BB is the only way they can get off. To them, the risk associated with BB is better than the alternative. I would agree with you about BBFS, though. That's a huge risk, and I think anyone who does it is making a mistake. But BBBJs are much lower risk. There's really only about three diseases you have a reasonable chance of catching (HPV, syphilis, and gonorrhea) , and all of them are treatable (I know there's an antibiotic-resistant strain of gonorrhea, but there haven't been any confirmed cases of it in the USA yet). Yes, it's still bad to get those diseases. But they're probably not going to kill you, unlike a plane crash or a bear attack.
Why do people play the lottery when it's mathematically stupid? Why do we drink when it can cause a whole range of life-threatening illnesses? Why go hiking in the woods when it could end up killing you? It's because the rewards outweigh the risks. The same goes for BB. For you, a condom is just a little less in feeling, so going BB isn't worth the risk. But some guys literally cannot cum with a condom on, for whatever reason, so going BB is the only way they can get off. To them, the risk associated with BB is better than the alternative. I would agree with you about BBFS, though. That's a huge risk, and I think anyone who does it is making a mistake. But BBBJs are much lower risk. There's really only about three diseases you have a reasonable chance of catching (HPV, syphilis, and gonorrhea) , and all of them are treatable (I know there's an antibiotic-resistant strain of gonorrhea, but there haven't been any confirmed cases of it in the USA yet). Yes, it's still bad to get those diseases. But they're probably not going to kill you, unlike a plane crash or a bear attack.You're comparing stuff that can be prevented and things that cannot be prevented. As far as the cannot cum with a condom assertions: That's the biggest load of hogwash ever. It's a total dysfunction and a lie. No, it doesn't feel as good but then again. You don't have to go to clinic. You don't spread disease to other people. How did the streetwalker get HIV if she only uses crack? She got it from a monger who doesn't care and maybe doesn't know. The cliche an ounce of prevention is worth. Is true in this medium.
SmileyScout
08-21-12, 17:57
You're comparing stuff that can be prevented and things that cannot be prevented. As far as the cannot cum with a condom assertions: That's the biggest load of hogwash ever. It's a total dysfunction and a lie. No, it doesn't feel as good but then again. You don't have to go to clinic. You don't spread disease to other people. How did the streetwalker get HIV if she only uses crack? She got it from a monger who doesn't care and maybe doesn't know. The cliche an ounce of prevention is worth. Is true in this medium.You're ignoring the point of my argument, and arguing against points I never made. First of all, things that cannot be prevented? Every situation I listed is absolutely preventable. You can prevent death by plane crash by never getting on a plane. You can prevent death by alcohol poisoning by never drinking. You can prevent death by bear attack by never going hiking or camping. But most people aren't willing to do that, because the inconvenience or the loss of enjoyment greatly outweighs the safety you gain by not doing those.
Secondly, the inability to cum with a condom on is a very real thing, so much that the National Institute of Health received a grant to study men who have this problem (more info at http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-stop-til-you-can-get-enough). The reasons for this can range from reduced physical sensations (especially for guys who have been circumcised since circumcision can remove a lot of sensitivity) to emotional stress to the loss of sensuality caused by interrupting sex to put a condom on. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it never happens to anyone.
Third, if you think you'll never have to go to a clinic just because you wore a condom, you are embarrassingly naive. Condoms definitely help reduce the risk of STDs, but they do not guarantee anything. In particular they don't offer much protection against herpes or genital warts, because there is still a good chance of mucous-to-skin contact even when wearing one. The discharge from syphilis and chancroid sores can also easily reach areas that are not covered by a condom. Then there's things like scabies and crabs, which don't need to pass through condoms to be transmitted. If a condom breaks during sex, you are at the same risk as if you had done BBFS. Using them properly will make sure it doesn't happen very often, but it only needs to happen once.
Finally, you didn't address the point I made about BBBJs being much safer than BBFS. The diseases that can be spread through BBBJs are all treatable, and most of them have very obvious signs (sores, warts, discoloration, etc.). I already said I agree with you that BBFS is extremely high risk, but I don't understand why you put all BB in the same category when some types are significantly riskier than others.
You're ignoring the point of my argument, and arguing against points I never made. First of all, things that cannot be prevented? Every situation I listed is absolutely preventable. You can prevent death by plane crash by never getting on a plane. You can prevent death by alcohol poisoning by never drinking. You can prevent death by bear attack by never going hiking or camping. But most people aren't willing to do that, because the inconvenience or the loss of enjoyment greatly outweighs the safety you gain by not doing those.
Secondly, the inability to cum with a condom on is a very real thing, so much that the National Institute of Health received a grant to study men who have this problem (more info at.
http://www.examiner.com/article/don-t-stop-til-you-can-get-enough
). The reasons for this can range from reduced physical sensations (especially for guys who have been circumcised since circumcision can remove a lot of sensitivity) to emotional stress to the loss of sensuality caused by interrupting sex to put a condom on. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it never happens to anyone.
Third, if you think you'll never have to go to a clinic just because you wore a condom, you are embarrassingly naive. Condoms definitely help reduce the risk of STDs, but they do not guarantee anything. In particular they don't offer much protection against herpes or genital warts, because there is still a good chance of mucous-to-skin contact even when wearing one. The discharge from syphilis and chancroid sores can also easily reach areas that are not covered by a condom. Then there's things like scabies and crabs, which don't need to pass through condoms to be transmitted. If a condom breaks during sex, you are at the same risk as if you had done BBFS. Using them properly will make sure it doesn't happen very often, but it only needs to happen once.
Finally, you didn't address the point I made about BBBJs being much safer than BBFS. The diseases that can be spread through BBBJs are all treatable, and most of them have very obvious signs (sores, warts, discoloration, etc.). I already said I agree with you that BBFS is extremely high risk, but I don't understand why you put all BB in the same category when some types are significantly riskier than others.I think if you go to a club and get a BBBJ from a girl you met, it can be dangerous. The one thing I do have to say is that women you picked up has probably had a few sexual encounters that day and the day before. Her mouth has been around at least a guys johnson at least once before she met you that day. Many of the girls also do not wash their mouths and have his DNA in their mouths still. I would rather put on a condom than risk anything. I know a few male nurses who have told me that they have seen guys who said they only got a BBBJ from the girl and now their burning or dripping. They didn't think anything of it at the time. There like don't have sex or oral with anyone without a condom. The girls will come in and get cleaned too and brag to one another about giving guys diseases. And if your in a risky hobby, prepare to pay the price for not covering it up. My ex roommate picked up this hot clean looking girl from a bar one night and got the clamp and herpes from her. As far as the argument I made about preventable death. You are associating a cause and effect and comparing riding a plane which is safer and going camping to the hobby. This hobby is dangerous. LE, disease, getting robbed or even murdered. It's happened. To stop bears in woods you have to pull your food up a tree. And you always have to do it. Every night. Same thing with the hobby. You have to keep your wits about you. If something feels wrong, sometimes you have to walk away. Sometime you have to learn how not to get robbed is by getting robbed.
Furrber and Smileyscott. Thanks for an intelligent and well written debate making your points. It made interested reading for me. I was wiriting on some other thread, but the topic was unsafe sex, so was pointed to this thread. There is another angle to why about Bare Back sex. Some men like the high risk things for thrills. Also there is lot of substance in the fact that some men can't come easily with condom usage. I am not an expert but have heard that. I am writing from my personal expereince. Here is another thing I would point is that it has to do with genetics, remember deep down our procreation genes will want to multiplly and procreate and maybe that overrides common sense and safe practices sometimes. Also apparently clean looks can lull or fool a guy into false sense of security to indulge in bare sex.
SlickWillie
03-26-13, 19:06
Why risk getting other diseases from BB anything. I don't get it. I've seen guys take pics of girls on here that are drugged out of their mind, needle marks, no teeth, heavily bruised with open sores. And they have BBFS. You have to pay for the cure. And if you catch HIV, it's expensive to treat. You'll be on drugs that cause tons of side effects. And if you have a gf or wife you will most likely give it to them. On the days, of CL, one guy got a BBBJCIM with this one girl and got gonorrhea because she had it her mouth. You have to go to a clinic or a doctor. Tell them what happened. And they can deduce what happened. Doctors are not dumb. Then your insurance finds out and raises your premium because you are living a high risk lifestyle. The cost for a little loss in feeling and 5 dollars for a box of condoms verse catching a STD is not worth it.I am crazier than a shithouse rat about a girl being clean and avoiding disease. I only see one provider (at least so far). I have a difficult time cumming using a condom and sometimes have to take it off and let her finish me off manually. To me it does not feel anywhere near as good with a condom but no way I do it without one. My only worry is that my girl gets herpes from another client and I get it that way, hopefully she would not withhold that information if she knew but that is the risk. The only STD I worry about at all is herpes, my girl requires a condom and while her pussy is surprisingly tight, you know it hasn't been that long since some other dude had his covered johnson in there. The herp is the one disease a condom can only help to prevent, but it is still a significant risk IMO.
Yeah, HIV is messed up, but it's also sad to end up as one of those guys who seem to have an uncontrollable itch in their pants. I'm sure you all know a guy like that. When he sits, he opens and closes his legs constantly. There is a monger in KY who brags about pounding providers raw and I just remember who he's been with and avoid. I know there are unnamed mongers who we will never know about who bb some of our most favorite providers who know nothing of this board, so we'll never know about it. Even if you don't end up with HIV, do you really want to be itchy balls guy? I could be wrong, but as long as I've been on the board, I've never heard of any monger admit to getting burned by a provider. Maybe they do exist, but I haven't heard of it. So please bb guys, when, not if you catch something, please send a message on here how we all told you so and you were stubborn and give a warning to others who thought like you.
Why risk getting other diseases from BB anything. I don't get it. I've seen guys take pics of girls on here that are drugged out of their mind, needle marks, no teeth, heavily bruised with open sores. And they have BBFS. You have to pay for the cure. And if you catch HIV, it's expensive to treat. You'll be on drugs that cause tons of side effects. And if you have a gf or wife you will most likely give it to them. On the days, of CL, one guy got a BBBJCIM with this one girl and got gonorrhea because she had it her mouth. You have to go to a clinic or a doctor. Tell them what happened. And they can deduce what happened. Doctors are not dumb. Then your insurance finds out and raises your premium because you are living a high risk lifestyle. The cost for a little loss in feeling and 5 dollars for a box of condoms verse catching a STD is not worth it.I wouldn't stick my dick in anything that looked like that. I know, I know you can't always tell but that is the same risk with a chick you pickup at a bar at closing too! I never take risks with SW or pro's.
SashaMonroe
01-04-14, 19:53
I don't understand these guys that call and say do you offer bareback? Hell freaking no why would I take a risk like that for a few bucks and my thing is regardless if you are clean you don't know what the other person has. Quite frankly it just sickens me to know that there are so many girls out here that don't practice safe sex it is ridiculous.
Trust Lust
01-07-14, 00:34
Reminds me of the story about a supervisor, who enters a ships hold, directly after he holds a safety meeting. Hard hat, steel toed boots, safety glasses, and all, he is crushed when not paying attention as the brakeman lowers a loaded palate of vodka on him. Same went for a gung ho safety man from Michigan, who didn't like my little brother's Texas accent. He self righteously fails my little brother on his ice driving abilities, only to dose off on the road, while driving to Texas himself for oilfield work. He has a head on collision that killed the four occupants of the other vehicle during failed attempt to avoid some worthless do nothing in life. My brother ends up being, as despicable, as goes to visit his dying enemy for the sake of mocking him.
Although the possibility of some lethal accident somewhere looming, concerns me even more than catching this lethal flu we have going around, where I live now, I can't help recalling one of my own unsafe sex complaints. Seems like we wash our clothes and our hands to avoid all of the snot etc, that people leave behind for us to sit in and handle. What must one be about to figure out that cum couldn't be much different from snot? I recall one particular SW, who insisted that I rubber up, only for me to fuck her only to pull out of her with someone else cum laced all over my rubber. How did the prior john get the privilege of having full sensation sex while I was being forced to do what jacking off would have better accomplished?
Despite all of this, I find most girls, I fuck, to like the feeling as much or more than I do. Once I show a laminated bill proving that I've had a vasectomy, they don't even ask for money. How could they be concerned about STD's or wearing a seat belt etc, when they have a $200.00 a day heroin habit to support? Seems ironic doesn't it? They surely, as hell, don't want to get pregnant, though, and I don't want to have to face the reaper on that one either!
TerilusKong
06-05-14, 19:43
There are a million other things which determines if a Man can maintain an erection with or without a condom. If condoms were the main problem then all married men would be immune to getting erectile dysfunction.
Let's strap it up fellas. PM me if you need advice on increasing sensitivity (or decreasing it if you're a short popper).
Member #6294
10-08-14, 19:14
So apparently we got some bareback providing escorts in Birmingham which is just some dangerous stuff. How do providers care so little about their clients and themselves as to do something like this to people. Was reading over a ton of the cities and states in this thread just for stories around the country and came across LA and their Bareback Beauties thread and was like "WTF is wrong with these people" and it got my wondering how exactly safe is MY city. So I went over to the app store and downloaded a Burner App, can't let my real number be exposed, and text a few providers in my city just to test things out. So far two have responded, three but she was from out of town, with a "Yes" to BBFS and I'm like "wow ladies. Wow". Anyways here's the two locals that said yes. If you're from Birmingham, AL then these are two ladies you need to avoid forever.
Lexi.
http://birmingham.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexilexi-incall-early-morning-special-27/10582373
She said no at first then text back and asked how much would I be willing to spend. That's basically a yes, avoid this lady.
Destiny.
http://birmingham.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ey-guys-its-destiny-and-im-here-2-please-ur-needs-31/10544964
LOL just look at the text messages in the thumbnails. Crazy people out there, avoid!
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I hate to say it, but there are a lot more providers out there that will ride bareback. If you read the post in the Backpage Advertiser reviews from just a few months back, you'll find at least two references to it. I've personally come across a couple providers who offer it routinely once you've visited them a several times and they're comfortable with you. I've never accepted and move on to other providers. My philosophy is to assume all of them will ride bareback at some point, so I make sure I'm always covered. Also, I avoid those providers that I know for a fact offer either anal or bareback.
This hobby has its risks; I try to reduce them to the point I feel comfortable. It's not perfect but it works for me.
Good luck, be safe.
I hate to say it, but there are a lot more providers out there that will ride bareback. If you read the post in the Backpage Advertiser reviews from just a few months back, you'll find at least two references to it. I've personally come across a couple providers who offer it routinely once you've visited them a several times and they're comfortable with you. I've never accepted and move on to other providers. My philosophy is to assume all of them will ride bareback at some point, so I make sure I'm always covered. Also, I avoid those providers that I know for a fact offer either anal or bareback.
This hobby has its risks; I try to reduce them to the point I feel comfortable. It's not perfect but it works for me.
Good luck, be safe.I wouldn't be surprised if 20% of the attendents in AMP's will go bareback. Granted that's down from about 80%+ in the 1980's and 90's in the upper midwest but is still alot.
I think it's because she's known for BBFS and bb greek. The sirens luring the mongers onto the rocks. Also she's probably attractive to the guys who want to pay her in drugs. Other than that, no idea. I saw her once when she first appeared before she became "famous" and can't say anything really positive about her other than that she was spaced out enough that you could probably take advantage of her in any way you wanted to, and apparently a lot of guys have. There's a guy who posts on the other review board who says she's really sweet when she's cleaned up, but even he has given up on her since she fell back into the vortex.I tend to agree, most cv and BP girls don't do BBFS or bb greek, and the ones that do are not the best looking. She also does 2 guys at the sametime. That's the freak factor that gets into people's head and get them excited over her.
Mighty Spearsman
12-15-14, 02:41
I think it's because she's known for BBFS and bb greek. The sirens luring the mongers onto the rocks. Also she's probably attractive to the guys who want to pay her in drugs. Other than that, no idea. I saw her once when she first appeared before she became "famous" and can't say anything really positive about her other than that she was spaced out enough that you could probably take advantage of her in any way you wanted to, and apparently a lot of guys have. There's a guy who posts on the other review board who says she's really sweet when she's cleaned up, but even he has given up on her since she fell back into the vortex.Call me old-fashioned, but - BB Greek with a prostitute who's also a druggie? No thanks!
I met with her a few weeks ago and from what I had seen she had cleaned up, was at a healthy weight, looked good and was only offering the BBBJ, everything else was covered, anything is possible but I did not think she was heading in that same direction again, before she went away she was in rough shape and would do anything to get her next fix, but I don't think she is doing that now.A) I would never think about going within 100 feet of any of these hoes without wrapping up.
B) There were some posts a while back that suggested really good service when she wasnt under the influence, being that she was recently released, I doubted that she had started the roller-coaster downward yet. That's why I wanted to know if anybody had sampled recently.
I just couldn't help but notice in looking at some of the wonderful pictures posted on the forum page. You get to see pics of girls all over the US. Clean, Dirty, Sexy, Ugly, Nice Teeth, Lots of Bad teeth, Shaved, Hairy. You get the point. But the one thing that always makes me gasp is when I see a guy going bare back into any of these women. What the Hell are you thinking? I know this can be a dangerous hobby for some with regard to LE and phone messages, but that is just insane to me. I am inspired to do some research on my own to see just how dangerous a HJ vs BJ vs FS bareback and risks of STDS. Now I know with this kind of post that there will be people posting all kinds of opinions and defense of the ones who throw complete caution to the wind and dive in with their mouth and other parts to these women. Heck, this may enlighten me as to how many guys typically do go bare with any of these women. Could also be that my perception is completely off as I have personally had BJ from women in the hobby with no protection and didn't really think about it but wouldn't dare go in below without a cover. I am possibly exposing myself to just as much danger.
I have personally never picked up a SW in my life as the risk of LE seems to be higher (or perceived as higher to me). Not to mention just from this board alone, I read lots of stories and see pics of some of these SW girls and I don't think I could get past those brown nasty H-teeth, regardless of the skill level of the BBBJ. (just saying).
So I will sit back and wait to see if someone on here has already done the research regarding risks involved with any bareback activity with these women (listing by threat level or risk of contracting a disease).
I will add that I did have a lady explain to me one time that she performs BBBJ (not completion) because a Dr friend of hers said the risk level is very low especially if the sweet spot is eyeballed to confirm no obvious skin problems in that area.
Animal.
Really, did you go bareback with her?
Had a dream with Kyra. She doesn't drive so had to pick her up in HP. Went to my house and had BBBJ and BBFS and COT. Had a great time for. 5 Will repeat.
ShortPecker
12-02-15, 18:34
Had a dream with Kyra. She doesn't drive so had to pick her up in HP. Went to my house and had BBBJ and BBFS and COT. Had a great time for. 5 Will repeat.REALLY, BBFS, wonder if you the only one she ever done that with?
Something to think about.
Really, did you go bareback with her?Yes but finished on her breasts.
REALLY, BBFS, wonder if you the only one she ever done that with?
Something to think about.Who knows but worried about it later.
I get that asked all the time to go BBFS. And honestly, I could see it for girlfriend or wife but why would you want to do that when you see these esp, when some of these girls are seeing 5-10 people a day. Sorry, but to me that is gross. LOL and dangerous.
I had an appointment scheduled for late last night. We talked all day on and off we texted. Seemed to being going fine, but about 9 or so he asked the question again about BBFS, and once again I told him no. He flipped out and was asking why the hell not and basically yelled at me for ruining his night now. Then we stopped texting. So. Really does it mean that much for you guys.
Go figure.
REALLY, BBFS, wonder if you the only one she ever done that with?
Something to think about.
Toy Soldier
12-04-15, 08:26
It does not mean that much to anyone who cares about their health! And I believe it would take a total nutcase of a lady to allow a total stranger to dump a load in her, unless she cares nothing about her own health.
I get that asked all the time to go BBFS. And honestly, I could see it for girlfriend or wife but why would you want to do that when you see these esp, when some of these girls are seeing 5-10 people a day. Sorry, but to me that is gross. LOL and dangerous.
I had an appointment scheduled for late last night. We talked all day on and off we texted. Seemed to being going fine, but about 9 or so he asked the question again about BBFS, and once again I told him no. He flipped out and was asking why the hell not and basically yelled at me for ruining his night now. Then we stopped texting. So. Really does it mean that much for you guys.
Go figure.
There is a new review for Riley on another site claiming she is doing BBFS and happily took the nut in the kitty. Dudes only review. I told her about it today, which she was not aware of and am going to post one up myself after I see her this week, calling the douche out. The fuck is wrong with people.I don't know any of the parties involved here but BBFS is happening far more often than anyone might think. That includes some considered crowd jewels on this board. Just a thought but maybe the reviewer created a new I'd to avoid scrutiny. Other board darlings have been defended and others possibly unreported for that reason. Again not inditing Riley, just commenting on the state of the hobby in general.
There are multiple Riley's posting now.
I don't know any of the parties involved here but BBFS is happening far more often than anyone might think. That includes some considered crowd jewels on this board. Just a thought but maybe the reviewer created a new I'd to avoid scrutiny. Other board darlings have been defended and others possibly unreported for that reason. Again not inditing Riley, just commenting on the state of the hobby in general.
TomCruz079
01-07-16, 20:45
I don't know any of the parties involved here but BBFS is happening far more often than anyone might think. That includes some considered crowd jewels on this board. Just a thought but maybe the reviewer created a new I'd to avoid scrutiny. Other board darlings have been defended and others possibly unreported for that reason. Again not inditing Riley, just commenting on the state of the hobby in general.BBFS no way I love my family jewels too much. Even my girlfriends have to provide a clean bill of health first.
Just my 2 cents.
NephriteJade
01-07-16, 21:56
I don't know any of the parties involved here but BBFS is happening far more often than anyone might think. That includes some considered crowd jewels on this board. Just a thought but maybe the reviewer created a new I'd to avoid scrutiny. Other board darlings have been defended and others possibly unreported for that reason. Again not inditing Riley, just commenting on the state of the hobby in general.All of these women are doing BBFS with at least one person. How else do you guys think that they pop up pregnant? I've indulged in it with two before, and I'm not dropping names either here or in PM, but guys used to complain about one not even giving BBBJ; while I was getting what people were complaining about NOT getting and then some. It's your YMMV with every one of these girls. For what it's worth, I didn't start off that way with them, it kinda went there after a while. I no longer see them an one is retired and has a kid now, had me checking my calendar.
I don't know any of the parties involved here but BBFS is happening far more often than anyone might think. That includes some considered crowd jewels on this board. Just a thought but maybe the reviewer created a new I'd to avoid scrutiny. Other board darlings have been defended and others possibly unreported for that reason. Again not inditing Riley, just commenting on the state of the hobby in general.You have to read the review Reaper is calling out. He's calling out an obvious bogus review, not protecting a "crown jewel. " Anyone who reads it will at the least question its veracity.
To me providers offering BBFS to at least one person is kinda obvious to me. Just as NephriteJade stated "All of these women are doing BBFS with at least one person. " Thats why often don't mind sticking to oral pleasure only. Its the "Safer" evil IMO.
JJ.
You have to read the review Reaper is calling out. He's calling out an obvious bogus review, not protecting a "crown jewel. " Anyone who reads it will at the least question its veracity.
To me providers offering BBFS to at least one person is kinda obvious to me. Just as NephriteJade stated "All of these women are doing BBFS with at least one person. " Thats why often don't mind sticking to oral pleasure only. Its the "Safer" evil IMO.Exactly. Dude saying she "demanded" a cream pie. Come on now. Horseshit. Personally it would freak me out if a chick did cause she would have done with the guy before. The fuck if I want some dudes left over splooge running down my shaft,.
You obviously don't know the science behind STD transmission. Mathematically, it's highly unlikely for a man to get HIV from vaginal intercourse. It does happen, but the chances are actually pretty slim given you don't have any sores or open wounds on your genitals at the time of copulation. The chances of an uninfected male getting HIV from an infected female through bareback vaginal intercourse is approximately 0. 04%. That's about 1 in every 2,500 exposures. You could be the unlucky 1, but that's just the chance some people are willing to take. Other STDs have higher transmission rates, but almost all of them are curable through a few doctor's visits. And chances are if you monger even with a condom, you already have herpes.
Is it stupid? I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure most mongers who partake in BBFS either have done research on it or just don't give a fuck.
Also, source: http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv.
The source also has more sources if you're curious.
BBFS no way I love my family jewels too much. Even my girlfriends have to provide a clean bill of health first.
Just my 2 cents.
You obviously don't know the science behind STD transmission. Mathematically, it's highly unlikely for a man to get HIV from vaginal intercourse. It does happen, but the chances are actually pretty slim given you don't have any sores or open wounds on your genitals at the time of copulation. The chances of an uninfected male getting HIV from an infected female through bareback vaginal intercourse is approximately 0. 04%. That's about 1 in every 2,500 exposures. You could be the unlucky 1, but that's just the chance some people are willing to take. Other STDs have higher transmission rates, but almost all of them are curable through a few doctor's visits. And chances are if you monger even with a condom, you already have herpes.
Is it stupid? I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure most mongers who partake in BBFS either have done research on it or just don't give a fuck.
Also, source: http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv.
The source also has more sources if you're curious.Transmission occurs through mucous membranes including the urethra not just abrasions. Catie is an internet site. Believe what you want. Say to your self. Would I have unprotected full sex with 1000 HIV+ prostitutes in Nigeria or Sudan or any other high risk area because of what I read on the internet?
Cephlapod Love
03-13-16, 02:59
Say to your self. Would I have unprotected full sex with 1000 HIV+ prostitutes in Nigeria or Sudan or any other high risk area because of what I read on the internet?That is a silly argument. Anyone who knowingly has sex with an untreated person with an HIV infection is an idiot. No one would do that! I guess this shows how emotions creep into the discussion of HIV?
The point is that everyone has a right to evaluate risk on their own basis. Just because someone doesn't agree with another's point of view, doesn't make it a bad point of view or the person a bad person. Just because one has not sought out and availed them self of "the facts" doesn't mean the facts don't exist or that the facts are wrong!
What always fascinates me about this debate are the "core beliefs" that many have: many of which do not appear to be based on science or fact. Usually when I point out facts (I'm glad to back them up with links), it just angers people, because it goes against everything they "believe. " Then I get silly emotionally based arguments or "beliefs. " Very few are willing to have an open mind and fairly examine facts that might cause them to change their "beliefs!" Sigh.
The health professionals I have talked to reinforce what OP had to say, unless you have an open sore, cut or some other breach of the skin on the penis, transmission (F2M) is VERY very low. Pretty much have been told by Clinic Professionals in the heart of a Gayborhood, that as a hetro man, having sex only with Females and NO ANAL sex, that my risk was extremely low. Oh and last I checked the opening to the urethra is protected by folded over skin and the mucus membrane of my urethra never contacts vaginal fluids. Now maybe OP intentionally expose their urethras to vaginal fluids? Not me!
Second, my research (you can check your local HD data too) shows that generally only 1-2% of the population is running around living with HIV. If one digs deep into the data they will she a HUGE majority of those with HIV are men who participate in sex with men. (MSM). Then minorities and injection drug users are usually the next highest risk category. So avoiding certain populations like MSM & IDU lowers one's risk even further.
Third, I am guessing with Obama Care being the law of the land, that, large percentage of those with HIV infections have medical care. In fact saw a report today that showed that 80% of those living with HIV were linked to care. So if a HIGH percentage of those with HIV are linked to care and on ARV drugs, then they could have zero viral loads. No viral loads means no transmission risk.
So one way to look at the facts, is "you never know" and buy into the propaganda that the Gubmint put out in the 80's to scare people and change behaviors. OR...one can look at the facts.
1%-2% of population is HIV positive. 0.687% of Women have HIV and 0.189% of white women have HIV. So my chances of finding a white woman that DOES NOT have an HIV infection is 99.811%. Then it is highly likely that IF the girl has health care she has viral suppression and thus next to no amounts of virus in her system to "give" to her sex partner. Layered on top of that is the fact that without opening in the skin of the penis, transmission is extremely unlikely. So where is the risk?
I dunno. How does one measure risk? Is it in a rational way or emotional?
Stay safe!
http://www.phila.gov/health/pdfs/2014%20Surveillance%20Report%20Final.pdf
MyDarkSide
09-27-16, 09:56
1%-2% of population is HIV positive. 0.687% of Women have HIV and 0.189% of white women have HIV. So my chances of finding a white woman that DOES NOT have an HIV infection is 99.811%.
If you were picking random women in the supermarket. Just curious as to what you give as percentage if your pool of women were just intravenous drug users who practiced bb sex 10+ times per day? Genuinely interested but I'd think the infection rate skyrockets.
Cephlapod Love
10-01-16, 12:30
If you were picking random women in the supermarket. Just curious as to what you give as percentage if your pool of women were just intravenous drug users who practiced bb sex 10+ times per day? Genuinely interested but I'd think the infection rate skyrockets.Yes you are right! The risk of playing bare with an IDU is greatly increased! The statitics show you that and common sense demonstrates girls who are Jonesing will do anything. So yeah, don't play BB with IDUs! But one might be able to nail down an exact number if they look at the statistics from their state's HD. I still bet it is less than 10% infection rate.
But that doesn't mean all of them have an STD, or that the transmission rate is high enough that one might catch it.
Bottom line is there are risks everywhere in life and everyone needs to choose which ones they want to take! Safest way is obviously cover it up every time!
MyDarkSide
10-02-16, 20:05
Yes you are right! The risk of playing bare with an IDU is greatly increased! The statitics show you that and common sense demonstrates girls who are Jonesing will do anything. So yeah, don't play BB with IDUs! But one might be able to nail down an exact number if they look at the statistics from their state's HD. I still bet it is less than 10% infection rate.
But that doesn't mean all of them have an STD, or that the transmission rate is high enough that one might catch it.
Bottom line is there are risks everywhere in life and everyone needs to choose which ones they want to take! Safest way is obviously cover it up every time!Agree with most of what you say. I do feel that anyone who BBs on a regular basis with strangers (a couple times a day) is virtually guaranteed to have an STD. Bank on it. (I'm not saying one of the more "serious" stds.).
I was asked to go to this thread but it's dead. Great.
Cephlapod Love
01-08-17, 10:02
I was asked to go to this thread but it's dead. Great.What is your beef? Is complaining a thread isn't as active as one likes a great way to start a discussion?
Prolly got sent here, because complaints about safe sex practices are not permitted on the regular threads. So when one has such a beef, come here and grouse away. Those that want to reply can. Get no replies? Then perhaps one's views are outside of the norms here?
Everyone views risk differently. Very few use objective, fact based criteria and come down to something that essentially boils down to "beliefs".
Trust Lust
01-30-17, 01:51
I was asked to go to this thread but it's dead. Great.I'll reply to you, on this one, but not to someone, pretending to have some sort of extremely hard to attain medical school brains. This is especially the case, when so meretricious is that one, that she don't even know the hazards of using antibiotics and killing off our MISNOMER friendly bacteria and causing irreparable kidney failure. I remember being told about this in 7th grade health class only to be repudiated by some hospital orderly etc, who wishes she didn't choose to be so lazy that she could get in there and do the work required to become a physician. Better yet, why on earth would anyone really want to be a physician anyway? Those, who fit that bill, certainly wouldn't be posting here. When they do come right and don the white coat on this forum, they manage to do so in a very rigid and doctrinaire sort of a way, only it can be detected that it was copied straight out of a "how to read the newspaper IQ" nursing manual. The sentences aren't mingled with algebraic coefficients, hard to follow genetic terminology, and endless chemical chains the way medical school books are. Try out WebMD on any of this stuff, talked about on Safe Sex. Right away, the chemical nomenclature becomes so involved that no RNA, highest prestige after pharmacist, who follows MD, would be able to make heads or tales of it. Nevertheless, I get a big kick out of everybody worrying about STD's when it ain't shit compared to knocking some gal up and having to ultimately go to pen for child support.
It's a lot more readily available then some may think. I've had it offered to me twice in the last 2 weeks. Conversation was never initiated by me. Both times getting ready to do the deed. One says. I'm fixed go wherever you'd like. The other said I'm not on anything so don't cum inside me. I always carry my own protection for this reason.I agree, there are a lot of providers who will provide BBFS. It is more common than most think. I do recommend you bring your own protection just in case the provider. Forgets to get them, don't care whether you use one or not, or buy cheap cover that is so tight it cuts off circulation.
Maybe it's because I'm in the clinical field, but it's always been interesting that, while many mongers are careful to use condoms during vaginal sex, they seem to be just fine with going down on pussy. We hear lots of noise about the dangers of BBFS and "on, no, I would NEVER do that!" Yet, my bet is that a good number of those guys are just fine with DATY and BBBJs. And they're probably fine with kissing.
Here's the real deal. DATY, BBBJs and even kissing can pose a similar STD threat to fucking pussy, maybe not quite as high of a risk but definitely a very real risk. And the shit of it is, many STDs show no symptoms, sometimes for quite some time. Yet there they are, doing their thing.
You can catch chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, trich, herpes, HPV and HIV from oral sex or kissing. Herpes, HPV and HIV cannot be treated and you will have them for life. Period. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis and trich can be treated but they are often asymptomatic and go undetected. If they're not treated, they can lead to other serious issues, not to mention spreading that shit around.
This is a link to the Center of Disease Control's Fact Sheet on the topic. https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm. (The CDC is part of the US Department Health and Human Services.).
If you're going to throw shit around because someone else did BBFS, take a look at what you do first. I'm def not advocating BBFS with a provider, just saying that DATY and BBBJs are not much less dangerous. There is no moral high ground with not doing BBFS. If you eat pussy, enjoy a good BBBJ or kiss providers, you're almost as likely to catch something as if you fucked with no condom.
The only way to monger "safely" is to use a condom 100% of the time and abstain from DATY / BBBJs / kissing no matter how enticing the provider. And for fuck's sake, get yourselves checked regularly. You could go down on 100 providers, then fuck them bareback and be fine. Or you could catch something with your first.
Be smart. Be aware. And know that oral sex with a provider can be almost as stupid as BBFS. You make your own choice. Just figured you ought to know the rules of the game. Oral sex is really no safer than BBFS.
And one final incendiary note, I've been mongering for some time now and all but 3 providers have been open to BBFS. I've asked each and every one. That's well over 90%.
Let the slinging begin!
BadaBingLove1
09-04-17, 19:34
Maybe it's because I'm in the clinical field, but it's always been interesting that, while many mongers are careful to use condoms during vaginal sex, they seem to be just fine with going down on pussy. We hear lots of noise about the dangers of BBFS and "on, no, I would NEVER do that!" Yet, my bet is that a good number of those guys are just fine with DATY and BBBJs. And they're probably fine with kissing.
Here's the real deal. DATY, BBBJs and even kissing can pose a similar STD threat to fucking pussy, maybe not quite as high of a risk but definitely a very real risk. And the shit of it is, many STDs show no symptoms, sometimes for quite some time. Yet there they are, doing their thing.
You can catch chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, trich, herpes, HPV and HIV from oral sex or kissing. Herpes, HPV and HIV cannot be treated and you will have them for life. Period. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis and trich can be treated but they are often asymptomatic and go undetected. If they're not treated, they can lead to other serious issues, not to mention spreading that shit around.
This is a link to the Center of Disease Control's Fact Sheet on the topic. https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm. (The CDC is part of the US Department Health and Human Services.).
If you're going to throw shit around because someone else did BBFS, take a look at what you do first. I'm def not advocating BBFS with a provider, just saying that DATY and BBBJs are not much less dangerous. There is no moral high ground with not doing BBFS. If you eat pussy, enjoy a good BBBJ or kiss providers, you're almost as likely to catch something as if you fucked with no condom.
The only way to monger "safely" is to use a condom 100% of the time and abstain from DATY / BBBJs / kissing no matter how enticing the provider. And for fuck's sake, get yourselves checked regularly. You could go down on 100 providers, then fuck them bareback and be fine. Or you could catch something with your first.
Be smart. Be aware. And know that oral sex with a provider can be almost as stupid as BBFS. You make your own choice. Just figured you ought to know the rules of the game. Oral sex is really no safer than BBFS.
And one final incendiary note, I've been mongering for some time now and all but 3 providers have been open to BBFS. I've asked each and every one. That's well over 90%.
Let the slinging begin!It is true that you can get certain std and sti's from DATY, BBBJ, and kissing (for some things, mainly cold sores) but for HIV they don't even have statistics on HIV for any of those activities because they are so astronomically small and the mechanism of transmission is theoretically unlikelyl. I've gone to doctors before because I BBFS a few providers and woke up the next day in a panic full of guilt. One of the doctors I saw was an HIV expert in Laguna Beach CA (look him up if you don't believe me) and he was reluctant to give me meds (PEP) because the risk of transmission was soooo low. As a man it is very rare to get HIV from normal vaginal sex with a healthy penis (skin is a very good barrier and you would need to have cuts or micro tears and the viral load of the woman would need to be high). If you reduce those risks to BBBJ or DATY they are basically nonexistent. Theoretically it is possible but so extremely unlikely a doctor would NEVER give you meds for those encounters. Herpes and STI's and HPV are MUCH more likely but HIV is not as you described. Mongers should be well aware of their risks and should really use protection and choose providers with care.
For general advice: don't bang the junkie / chrack ***** without a rubber and then complain about herpes, HIV and hep c. Use your head and inform yourself about sti / stds.
I didn't delve into the specifics of HIV (about which I know a good deal). I agree with your general comments about HIV. You'll note that my comments were pretty general and the only thing I said about HIV is that it is incurable.
That said, my points were two.
1. Guys should stop slinging shit at people who do BBFS unless they don't DATY, get BBBJs or kiss.
2. Be informed. I don't judge mongers on their choices but I want them to be informed choices.
The intent was not to be an ass; rather, it was to let guys know that abstaining from BBFS is no guarantee of safety.
But our conclusions were much the same. Be careful where you stick your dick and what you put in your mouth, lessons we should have all learned in the kindergarten sandbox!
P.S. And how did this post end up outside of my Cincinnati group? It was intended for my fellow Cincinnati mongers! Admin? It's buried in a thread that isn't directly relevant. My post wasn't a complaint on practices; it was meant as education, primarily. And it fit into the Cincinnati BBBJ and BBFS thread.
It is true that you can get certain std and sti's from DATY, BBBJ, and kissing (for some things, mainly cold sores) but for HIV they don't even have statistics on HIV for any of those activities because they are so astronomically small and the mechanism of transmission is theoretically unlikelyl. I've gone to doctors before because I BBFS a few providers and woke up the next day in a panic full of guilt. One of the doctors I saw was an HIV expert in Laguna Beach CA (look him up if you don't believe me) and he was reluctant to give me meds (PEP) because the risk of transmission was soooo low. As a man it is very rare to get HIV from normal vaginal sex with a healthy penis (skin is a very good barrier and you would need to have cuts or micro tears and the viral load of the woman would need to be high). If you reduce those risks to BBBJ or DATY they are basically nonexistent. Theoretically it is possible but so extremely unlikely a doctor would NEVER give you meds for those encounters. Herpes and STI's and HPV are MUCH more likely but HIV is not as you described. Mongers should be well aware of their risks and should really use protection and choose providers with care.
For general advice: don't bang the junkie / chrack ***** without a rubber and then complain about herpes, HIV and hep c. Use your head and inform yourself about sti / stds.
HuntLadys29
09-05-17, 05:19
I didn't delve into the specifics of HIV (about which I know a good deal). I agree with your general comments about HIV. You'll note that my comments were pretty general and the only thing I said about HIV is that it is incurable.
That said, my points were two.
1. Guys should stop slinging shit at people who do BBFS unless they don't DATY, get BBBJs or kiss.
2. Be informed. I don't judge mongers on their choices but I want them to be informed choices.
The intent was not to be an ass; rather, it was to let guys know that abstaining from BBFS is no guarantee of safety.
But our conclusions were much the same. Be careful where you stick your dick and what you put in your mouth, lessons we should have all learned in the kindergarten sandbox!
P.S. And how did this post end up outside of my Cincinnati group? It was intended for my fellow Cincinnati mongers! Admin? It's buried in a thread that isn't directly relevant. My post wasn't a complaint on practices; it was meant as education, primarily. And it fit into the Cincinnati BBBJ and BBFS thread.I'm sure Admin moved it the BBFS ads are for people who like and enjoy BBFS it's for them to report and share information on BBFS it's not there for you to give a lecture or impart your wisdom. I saw your post and thought it was a lecture on what grown men should or shouldn't do. I'm sure Admin either read or somebody reported your post that's why it was moved. I've lived in Cincinnati all my life and when I saw we had a BBFS site set up I knew it was going to be a lot of lecturing and not a lot of comments or real information because that's how this city is, I talk to a lot of girls and they say everybody wants it but nobody on the board admits to doing it, and if they do they get bashed or lectured just like you did. You might claim it wasn't a lecture but it sure read like one to me. HL29.
If you were picking random women in the supermarket. Just curious as to what you give as percentage if your pool of women were just intravenous drug users who practiced bb sex 10+ times per day? Genuinely interested but I'd think the infection rate skyrockets.He's not talking about across the population he's talking about the transmission rate given that the female is positive and the given male is not at that point infected prior to sexual contact.
MickSwagger
08-04-18, 18:37
You guys ever worry about stds getting BBBJ.
FredBickle
11-19-18, 12:34
Okay so obviously std talk is the white elephant in this forum, and I don't mean to cross a line by bringing it up.
But as I reminisced about Emma the CIP / CIA queen, I just have to wonder.
What makes a chick go THAT far into the danger zone?
Do they just rationalize it as. "white dudes, mostly married, low HIV rates in the US, repeat customers" ??
Do they live in an alternative universe (Korea) where nobody gets anything??
Do they just genuinely love to get creamed?
Please help me untangle this philosophical knot.
BacklumChaam
11-19-18, 18:16
Okay so obviously std talk is the white elephant in this forum, and I don't mean to cross a line by bringing it up.
But as I reminisced about Emma the CIP / CIA queen, I just have to wonder.
What makes a chick go THAT far into the danger zone?
Do they just rationalize it as. "white dudes, mostly married, low HIV rates in the US, repeat customers" ??
Do they live in an alternative universe (Korea) where nobody gets anything??
Do they just genuinely love to get creamed?
Please help me untangle this philosophical knot.We take the risk (try not to think about it) for the pleasure. They do the same for the paper. The powers of money and sex are two of the most irresistible forces known to man.
FredBickle
11-20-18, 11:15
But it's not like I paid extra to cum in her ass.
She got an extra visit out of me but that would have happened anyway because she was hot.
From her POV it would be like agreeing to play Russian roulette and then actively asking to put more bullets in the chamber for seemingly no reason.
We take the risk (try not to think about it) for the pleasure. They do the same for the paper. The powers of money and sex are two of the most irresistible forces known to man.
We take the risk (try not to think about it) for the pleasure. They do the same for the paper. The powers of money and sex are two of the most irresistible forces known to man.It's is cultural, and a lack of education. In the states, we're raised to always protect ourselves, while as in Korea, sexual education doesn't exist at all. In my younger days of K-clubbing and bar hopping, I've never met a girl from Korea who suggested to use a condom unless I insisted on it. It was actually pretty alarming since a lot of them would forcibly remove them midromp and it'd freak me out. There were even times when there were rumors of STD's being a problem in K-Town clubs.
BacklumChaam
11-20-18, 17:52
It's is cultural, and a lack of education. In the states, we're raised to always protect ourselves, while as in Korea, sexual education doesn't exist at all. In my younger days of K-clubbing and bar hopping, I've never met a girl from Korea who suggested to use a condom unless I insisted on it. It was actually pretty alarming since a lot of them would forcibly remove them midromp and it'd freak me out. There were even times when there were rumors of STD's being a problem in K-Town clubs.True, the cultural / lack of sex Ed. Definitely plays a contributing factor, yet if it was mainly just that, pretty much all of the K agencies would be BB friendly. I've had many an encounter with agency / AMP K girls over the years where the usage of a condom was emphatically stressed and the reason for it wasn't for birth control it was for health concerns. In other news, I'll be visiting Zenia from Ktownescorts tonight. Booker informed me she's BB good to go. Shall report back.
BC.
What are some home remedies to get rid of genital warts? What about boosting the immune system? What vitamins? Thanks for any input.
What are some home remedies to get rid of genital warts? What about boosting the immune system? What vitamins? Thanks for any input.Go see a urologist and he can give you a topical that will get rid of them.
Don't use any over the counter wart remover. Use antiviral supplements and I recommend L losing 2000 mg.
And Quercertain 900 mg daily. Both are anti virals.
TheRealAssMan
06-20-19, 09:30
I visited w / Mandy, the 2nd girl. She is tiny, like under 5 feet. Loose in the middle, what boobs she had, were saggy. Really good BBBJ, took it deep w / o issue. Kitty was clean. BB Greek was the main event, she was uncomfortable but let me finish. She was actually proud that she was able to take "that big of a dick in her ass" her words. I'm not huge, but apparently it was the biggest she's taken in her pooper, at that time.
Hotel in Hartford, low end, no one else around. I just didn't like walking by the front desk.
I tried setting up something again, but she was ambivalent about Greek again, so I passed.
I think it was a franklin for the QV.Bb greek? Brave man! Wow.
JustLooking30
06-20-19, 10:30
Bb greek? Brave man! Wow.That's actually incredible dumb and risky. I know this is the pot calling the kettle black.
But there's a reason so many gay men are afflicted with STDs. The rectum and anus are delicate mucus membranes, very easy to tear and the highest vector to get an std.
You may want to reconsider this practice with high volume providers and get yourself tested just as a precaution.
That's actually incredible dumb and risky. I know this is the pot calling the kettle black.
But there's a reason so many gay men are afflicted with STDs. The rectum and anus are delicate mucus membranes, very easy to tear and the highest vector to get an std.
You may want to reconsider this practice with high volume providers and get yourself tested just as a precaution.I have no desire to stick my cock up anyone's ass, male or female. With that said, as you rightly pointed out, the receiver of BB anal has the highest vector to get an std. Unless he's taking it up the ass from a gay bottom, I don't think he has much too worry about.
JustLooking30
06-20-19, 14:32
I don't think he has much too worry about.No, he has the most to worry about. Male or female, the penis is exposed to both the membrane of the anus and the blood from the tears. Do the research or ask a clinician.
For those partaking in BBFS, they should be educated in the risks.
No, he has the most to worry about. Male or female, the penis is exposed to both the membrane of the anus and the blood from the tears. Do the research or ask a clinician.
For those partaking in BBFS, they should be educated in the risks.I am admittedly a depraved degenerate who indulges in BBFS more often than is appropriate and even I think twice before going rawdog up the ass.
TheRealAssMan
06-20-19, 20:59
I've heard a lot of great things about her. Anyone know if she offers BBFS?Absoloutly not!
TheBigDipper1
06-16-20, 23:56
Seems Tori is very willingly to accept bb in both holes without a fight. Why would a girl that is young and pretty not seem afraid at all of stds through bb? She could still get plenty of business from repeat clients even with condoms. Just seems to good to be true especially considering her low rates.
Seems Tori is very willingly to accept bb in both holes without a fight. Why would a girl that is young and pretty not seem afraid at all of stds through bb? She could still get plenty of business from repeat clients even with condoms. Just seems to good to be true especially considering her low rates.I agree I use to see Tori at least once a week up until about last week I noticed my service going down she started shorting the time saying 150 for a half hour anal instead of hour. Now I'm not trying to bust her business but I never had a problem with smell or anything my self when I went there she always seemed clean told me she got tested once a week (idk if I believe it) so I started doing bb well the second to last visit I had I noticed a smell almost like I picked up right after one of my fellow mongers than the next time my last time she usually asks me to start "front or back" this time she just goes missionary was confused but didn't think of it at the time but I had her turn around and I had a white substance all over my stuff (no not pre jack or regular it was a few moments in and I go a long time I know my body) it was a lot too I'm not sure if it was just lotion so she would be lubricated or I actually had you know on my stuff from another man. I understand it's not a clean business but you can't be picky but I said no more I know she offers bb to just about anyone so I'm probably done from here on out with her. That being said she is a nice lady and I guess it's a good service especially for the price just make sure you be safe and wrap up my guys!
Seems Tori is very willingly to accept bb in both holes without a fight. Why would a girl that is young and pretty not seem afraid at all of stds through bb? She could still get plenty of business from repeat clients even with condoms. Just seems to good to be true especially considering her low rates.I wonder the same thing. My first thought why one would offer BB and not be worried about catching something? I don't know but are the chances of catching something that slim? Is either party not worried about getting something because they already have something?
SpinnerLover69
06-17-20, 11:45
Seems Tori is very willingly to accept bb in both holes without a fight. Why would a girl that is young and pretty not seem afraid at all of stds through bb? She could still get plenty of business from repeat clients even with condoms. Just seems to good to be true especially considering her low rates.I would agree that a girl that is not worried about getting something probably already has it. With some, when you have it, you will always have it so you can't catch it twice. I never bb vaginal ever. BJ I do, but not if they have any visible issues on or in their mouth. Much harder to catch something from a BJ. And as far as bb screwing the girls, can you imagine getting one of these girls pregnant? Its her choice whether to have the kid. What an awful situation that would be.
I wonder the same thing. My first thought why one would offer BB and not be worried about catching something? I don't know but are the chances of catching something that slim? Is either party not worried about getting something because they already have something?I think the chicks doing it are already positive for something and just don't care. Plus it's more money for them. The guys just think with the little head. I've almost done it also when a chick gives you a BBBJ then just bends over and don't care. Then I remember that Toledo has one of the highest STD rates in the country. I don't even want to do BBBJ anymore, even though that's real slim chance. I'm not rolling them dice. To each his own though.
TheBigDipper1
06-17-20, 13:58
I think the chicks doing it are already positive for something and just don't care. Plus it's more money for them. The guys just think with the little head. I've almost done it also when a chick gives you a BBBJ then just bends over and don't care. Then I remember that Toledo has one of the highest STD rates in the country. I don't even want to do BBBJ anymore, even though that's real slim chance. I'm not rolling them dice. To each his own though.More money yeah, a bit more per session, but to not argue or even be apprehensive about doing bb is very suspect. Even if the girl in question is haggard and over the hill then I could under offering bb as a selling point, but a young pretty girl being so relaxed about doing bb, that's more than questionable.
We need reports on std tests from Tori's regular clients, things just aren't adding up.
Eaton Beaver
06-17-20, 14:10
Seems Tori is very willingly to accept bb in both holes without a fight. Why would a girl that is young and pretty not seem afraid at all of stds through bb? She could still get plenty of business from repeat clients even with condoms. Just seems to good to be true especially considering her low rates.Easy, she wants you to come back.
But, I have to confess that the best way for a lady to get repeat business would be to answer her godamn phone LOL.
More money yeah, a bit more per session, but to not argue or even be apprehensive about doing bb is very suspect. Even if the girl in question is haggard and over the hill then I could under offering bb as a selling point, but a young pretty girl being so relaxed about doing bb, that's more than questionable.
We need reports on std tests from Tori's regular clients, things just aren't adding up.It's very doubtful these girls or guys who do bb get tested often if at all. Many years ago when I didn't have insurance, I'd go to the health department and get texted for free. It was a quick and easy process. Nowadays I have insurance and get tested 3-4 times a year. Absolutely no excuse for not getting tested.
For anyone who's interested.
https://www.lucascountyhealth.com/health-center/std-clinic/
More money yeah, a bit more per session, but to not argue or even be apprehensive about doing bb is very suspect. Even if the girl in question is haggard and over the hill then I could under offering bb as a selling point, but a young pretty girl being so relaxed about doing bb, that's more than questionable..New here, but not to the sport. I agree with your assessment Big Dipper. The lack of apathy toward the myriad of things that could be caught in BB is not a good sign. I was with a provider in NY that stopped mid mish and told me I could take the raincoat off. Turn off for me, but everyone has there own risk acceptance and desires.
ManuelJellison
07-07-20, 17:07
New here, but not to the sport. I agree with your assessment Big Dipper. The lack of apathy toward the myriad of things that could be caught in BB is not a good sign. I was with a provider in NY that stopped mid mish and told me I could take the raincoat off. Turn off for me, but everyone has there own risk acceptance and desires.Yeah right.
I sure wish people would realize that no girls do BB for "only" them, I've been to a bunch of agency chicks, and a lot of them are bb from the 2nd visit onward.
Might as well tell the class, since that's the point of this.I don't understand how guys can bareback chicks in this life. I'm a dirty mf, but that's just one bridge too far.
AngelBravo
02-19-21, 16:18
I don't understand how guys can bareback chicks in this life. I'm a dirty mf, but that's just one bridge too far.I completely agree with you, even during CBJ and after I'm checking to make sure I didn't make any other physical contact. Absolutely no Pussy nor BJ is worth getting a potentially life altering STD. The only thing that make sense is if they already have an STD and simply don't care, or they truly aren't as well informed about the risks they are partaking and having sex in that moment seems more important to them.
Member #6286
02-20-21, 13:15
I don't understand how guys can bareback chicks in this life. I'm a dirty mf, but that's just one bridge too far.Totally agree. I think it's lack of education on STD spread methods or single guys who just don't care. The reality is several STD can be contracted with cover and with body to body contact regardless of cover like Hpv and Herpes. So the idea of BB is crazy. I always try to make sure no real rubbing occurs so I never have her on top. Also when pounding I don't go all the way deep last cover length. That's the shit that worries me being married. Bring it home and it's over. But if single I guess it's less a worry other than getting something you don't want, for life or for a short burn. I often wonder if providers really understand the risks themselves or care, but think about it, if she doesn't care, and she's letting everyone in, then does she really care to tell you if she has something and is happily or ignorantly spreading it?
What are some home remedies to get rid of genital warts? What about boosting the immune system? What vitamins? Thanks for any input.Triclor acid! That is the only true way to get rid of hpv / genital warts. Rubber gloves, Q Tip and acid. Instantly burns them away. Speaking from a medical professional stand point and first hand experience a dozen years ago. And yes it does scar you. Forget the vitamins and holistic stuff, kill it now and forever. We have a local AMP girl here that has active HPV and no one ever says a thing. Like they don't know what they are licking. Not ragging on anyone, I am an avid Bb guy! I don't eat hooker pussy, primarily because I don't want throat cancer we which is what hpv will create!
Geneva Guy
08-19-21, 18:06
I get tested monthly. With 6 SBs and I'm BBFS 5 of them. I know most SBs have rotation, or at less mess around with other college boys. 10 panel test for STD runs about $125. I figured it's part of the price I have to pay for bbfscip these 20's.Well then I'm curious if you found out you were HIV positive, Hep C positive (presumably you got Hep B vaccine), HPV (did you get the vaccine, its for men and women) or herpes positive. What would you do? Of those, only Hep C can be cured, the rest is for a lifetime. HIV can be controlled but its a daily treatment, don't miss a dose or you get resistance, Herpes can be controlled, HPV, that's another story, it's indolent but can lead to anal, cervical and penile cancer. By the way, gonorrhea is highly resistant, only one real drug to treat it and the dose of the drug has had to be increased due to increased resistance.
-Would you inform all of your BBFS SBs immediately and pay for their testing (after all you would not know WHO you got this from and WHO you gave it to).
-You you retest and keep mongering until you got the results back?
-Would you stop mongering (and you know that is hard to do)?
-I personally know of one monger on one of the boards here that got herpes (genital) from a street WG (he sent me pics of his lesions on his pecker and we discussed what to do privately). I suggested he needed medicine acutely and then daily (for suppression) and really should use a condom in the future, his comment "these girls probably all have herpes already". And off he goes mongering BBFS CIP and no suppressive therapy.
I have nothing against BBFS / CIP, we all love it for sure, but I'm curious about the guys that say they get tested all the time, what do they do as followup if positive.
And yep, I'm a medical professional who works in the STI area and have treated a number of guys / gals with STIs.
GG.
Hey guys, just curious to know what rare / less common "bugs" you've gotten from some of these places. My stuff keeps getting taken down so I figured I'd post here. Turns out Epstein Barr in Asian countries is pretty crazy. On the verge of becoming crippled I feel like. My whole body is shutting down. Scary sh*t!
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