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Captin Crunch
05-14-08, 05:29
Lots of reports of who is good and who to see, but shouldn't there be a thread of the LOSERS. I would like to also know who NOT to see. I know YMMV, but come on there are losers out there that you wouldn't want your fellow brothers to see. If people post negative things about a provider, the service may change in order for them to stay in business. That's my opinion.

Neko Hunta
05-14-08, 16:00
Lots of reports of who is good and who to see, but shouldn't there be a thread of the LOSERS. I would like to also know who NOT to see. I know YMMV, but come on there are losers out there that you wouldn't want your fellow brothers to see. If people post negative things about a provider, the service may change in order for them to stay in business. That's my opinion.Mr. Bar Butterfly,

About time someone did this!

I'm guessing that this thread is opened in general? All catagories, AMP, K-bars, Massage Therapists, SW, etc are included? Hmmmmm. This should be very interesting! Let me put my collection together for this one! HEHEHE!

I agree with you that this could be very useful for us and if the "providers" get wind of this, (slow down) they might get their act together.

Lataz,

Neko

Captin Crunch
05-15-08, 05:26
Yes, there must be someone that you seen and said "I'll never see her again". It could be her service, attitude ,looks, smell, or anything that turned you off. I know everyone has their opinion and taste, but you know a loser when you see one. Its hard to make a living if you have a bad reputation. Everyone wants to try the good ones, but would never try someone who had bad reviews. I wouldn't!

Buck N Ham
05-15-08, 21:29
Had a short-lived experience with Cathy from China Spa (who worked at RM about a year ago) a few weeks ago. Got there early Sunday AM after a long nite but with huge urge to get some action.

Was met at the door, walked through the sitting area and saw her on the couch surfing the internet. I was escorted to a room, paid the fee and I sat waiting someone to come in. While I rarely reject girls, I don't get undressed immediately as I'd like to get to "know" who I am getting serviced by. In walks Cathy who is a very slender built and somewhat attractive k-girl with mixed mainland/asian accent. With a puzzled look she says "Uh, you know what kind place this is? " and I responded with "Yea, I'm here for relaxation. " In a more puzzled look she replied "This is not that kind of place and I don't do massages" and though that statement was odd, I replied "yea I no. " She then she said she'll be right back.

Sitting there I thought, there's just no vibe with her but I sed "what da hell? " I got undressed and waited on the bed. She walks in and asks for the $. 5 fee upfront. Now, for me, I am never comfortable paying for the service until after it has been rendered. I sed "hmmm, that's really not an option here. " She then starts to argue with me about the virtue of paying upfront. After about a minute, with no desire to be serviced by her, I cut the discussion and sed "well doesn't look like it will work out so get me my house fee. " She stood stunned for a few seconds but left the room and came back with the fee. Nothing else was said and I made the long walk to the door unescorted.

My first and only experience with her was at RM and nothing I would brag about but after this experience, I would definitely not repeat with Cathy. Bad attitude. Furthermore, if all CS providers are like her and ask for the fee upfront, I won't be patronize that place either.

YMMV and I am sure there are members here who love going to CS but hey guys, its all about principles and we cannot let the providers dictate outcomes of a negotiation.

Buck

Kapalua
05-16-08, 05:11
She then starts to argue with me about the virtue of paying upfront. After about a minute, with no desire to be serviced by her, I cut the discussion and sed "well doesn't look like it will work out so get me my house fee. " She stood stunned for a few seconds but left the room and came back with the fee.
Good to hear that you were firm about it. As I've posted before, my policy is never to pay the tip in advance at relaxation places.

Captin Crunch
05-16-08, 12:26
Maybe we should all try and do what Kapalua and Buck said. If we all did that the mama would have to change the girls attitude. Mama would lose out on the house fee. I know its hard to do when you see a pretty girl. But just remember, they have the upper hand on us! Shouldn't we have the upper hand on them? We have the cash and can see who we want. Band together brothers.
Good to hear that you were firm about it. As I've posted before, my policy is never to pay the tip in advance at relaxation places.

Kapalua
05-16-08, 17:29
Maybe we should all try and do what Kapalua and Buck said. If we all did that the mama would have to change the girls attitude. Mama would lose out on the house fee. I know its hard to do when you see a pretty girl. But just remember, they have the upper hand on us! Shouldn't we have the upper hand on them? We have the cash and can see who we want.
As mentioned by Buck N Ham, the provider was "stunned" when he refused to pay the tip in advance and told her that he was terminating the session. She had probably assumed that a customer wouldn't have the assertiveness and self-discipline to terminate the session, demand the return of the house fee, and walk out.

Of course, that may be difficult if a customer is sexually aroused and the provider is attractive. However, it's the preferable course of action in my opinion. By giving the tip to the provider in advance, the customer shifts the balance of power entirely to the provider. When the provider already has the customer's tip, she can do whatever she wants and completely disregard customer satisfaction without any reduction in the amount of the tip.

Un Holy
05-16-08, 17:42
I have been to many parts of this world and I have never paid up front. Some have asked and I said and and if they gave me a hard time, I walked. Mama usually gets mad and gets on the girls case.

Member #1062
05-16-08, 18:38
I've tipped in advance on two occasions and regretted doing it both times.

Once 'the princess' has the $ she can play you any way she pleases and it certainly didn't go well for me either time.
I'll never do it again.

Way to go Buck N Ham.
All of us should do this all the time.
The Mamasans would quickly find out who the losers were and replace them with decent providers.

Dr Mallard
05-16-08, 19:38
I too have had bad experiences from paying the RA upfront. I never do that any more, and have no trouble walking and going to another AMP. Usually at the other AMP, during small talk with the RA, I will mention how I just walked out of _______ because of bad service. The RA always seems to meet and go beyond expectations from that point on.

Doc

Whatever595
05-16-08, 23:28
Despite the overall concensus about not paying in advance, I have done it a few times with pretty good results. I think the provider will be more apt to ask for it upfront if you might appear drunk. I think a lot of us will indulge in an AMP after a full night of drinking. Often I can't even remember how the fuck I got home. Dealing with drunk customers is a regular part of the job for them, so it must be a judgement call on thier part on whether the customer will pay up or renege when things might not go as expected, such as not being able to finish because of being drunk. Just my opinion.

On recent activity, Skye I know you know who I am, so I'll say it again, you are my ATF. At Lavender, Ruby still there and cool. Miki also from same place, small ,pretty K girl, tight. Two thai girls at RM gone for 1 month, back in June I think, both pretty good, Apple and Tasha.

Primal Needs
05-17-08, 04:18
I used to think that if the girl was cheerful/friendly, the service would be decent at least, and so I wouldn't mind paying up front. However, I've been wrong a few times, having friendly ones whose service was really bad, or having annoying personality traits. In those cases, I don't think I would've held back much in payment, since they did their job, but I would've liked to have the option to do so.

Primal Needs

Joe Som
05-17-08, 06:19
Despite the overall concensus about not paying in advance, I have done it a few times with pretty good results. I think the provider will be more apt to ask for it upfront if you might appear drunk. I think a lot of us will indulge in an AMP after a full night of drinking. Often I can't even remember how the fuck I got home. Dealing with drunk customers is a regular part of the job for them, so it must be a judgement call on thier part on whether the customer will pay up or renege when things might not go as expected, such as not being able to finish because of being drunk. Just my opinion.

On recent activity, Skye I know you know who I am, so I'll say it again, you are my ATF. At Lavender, Ruby still there and cool. Miki also from same place, small ,pretty K girl, tight. Two thai girls at RM gone for 1 month, back in June I think, both pretty good, Apple and Tasha.

Tasha at RM was hot. She aimed to please. Ruby was also hot. Soft in all the right places. Physically. Would repeat on both of them. Not going to Skye anymore. She's kinda moody once she's comfortable with you.

Buck N Ham
05-17-08, 20:35
As mentioned by Buck N Ham, the provider was "stunned" when he refused to pay the tip in advance and told her that he was terminating the session. She had probably assumed that a customer wouldn't have the assertiveness and self-discipline to terminate the session, demand the return of the house fee, and walk out.

Of course, that may be difficult if a customer is sexually aroused and the provider is attractive. However, it's the preferable course of action in my opinion. By giving the tip to the provider in advance, the customer shifts the balance of power entirely to the provider. When the provider already has the customer's tip, she can do whatever she wants and completely disregard customer satisfaction without any reduction in the amount of the tip.Thanks Kapalua. Well put and like you, I like to be in control of the service and pay for what its worth. I've had poor service and tipped a $.2 while on the other hand, I've paid $.7 for great service with many repeats.

Its funny that this provider claimed that the fee was a buck fifty and that if I liked the service, I could tip her afterward - so presumptuous.

Buck

Captin Crunch
05-18-08, 01:15
After getting a massage by Michelle, I decide to go try Mimi @ Gingers. Mama said Mimi not working, but decided to stay and try someone else. Actually, jr. Made me stay. I paid the house fee and mama said the girl was brushing her teeth and would be right in. She told me to get undress and lie down. In walks this tall, slim, and tan Korean chick. I thought this girl will definately be good. Nice size tits, but was hard as rock. Does not offer shower and told me to lie down. I tried to kiss her, but she turns away. I tried to suck her tits, but doesn't allow me to. She turns away and allows me to only see and play with her from the back side. I tried going down on her, but doesn't allow DATY. She told me I should have asked in the beginning what I wanted. I wanted DATY. She said No! She got off the bed, puts her clothes back on, and walks out. I hear her talking loud to the mama. Mama comes back and gives back the house fee. I walk out with no action. This girl never have me her name, but she was tall, tanned, and had enhanced tits. She also had a tattoo on her side. Anyone knows who she is? Bad attitude. LOSER!!!

Alohashorts
05-18-08, 14:55
Just curious about the tip thing. I agree to not pay tip before the service. I've learned my lesson also. But say you get bad service...or just for argument sake, you get less then average FS. What are you guys tipping then? To me it seems like I'm obligated to tip $.3 - $.5 just for the fact that I got fs. For bad fs, have you ever just tipped $?

Captin Crunch
05-19-08, 13:29
Reading another post, I found out the loser @ Gingers was Ivy.
After getting a massage by Michelle, I decide to go try Mimi @ Gingers. Mama said Mimi not working, but decided to stay and try someone else. Actually, jr. Made me stay. I paid the house fee and mama said the girl was brushing her teeth and would be right in. She told me to get undress and lie down. In walks this tall, slim, and tan Korean chick. I thought this girl will definately be good. Nice size tits, but was hard as rock. Does not offer shower and told me to lie down. I tried to kiss her, but she turns away. I tried to suck her tits, but doesn't allow me to. She turns away and allows me to only see and play with her from the back side. I tried going down on her, but doesn't allow DATY. She told me I should have asked in the beginning what I wanted. I wanted DATY. She said No! She got off the bed, puts her clothes back on, and walks out. I hear her talking loud to the mama. Mama comes back and gives back the house fee. I walk out with no action. This girl never have me her name, but she was tall, tanned, and had enhanced tits. She also had a tattoo on her side. Anyone knows who she is? Bad attitude. LOSER!!!

Lkjhgf
05-19-08, 14:25
After getting a massage by Michelle, I decide to go try Mimi @ Gingers. Mama said Mimi not working, but decided to stay and try someone else. Actually, jr. Made me stay. I paid the house fee and mama said the girl was brushing her teeth and would be right in. She told me to get undress and lie down. In walks this tall, slim, and tan Korean chick. I thought this girl will definately be good. Nice size tits, but was hard as rock. Does not offer shower and told me to lie down. I tried to kiss her, but she turns away. I tried to suck her tits, but doesn't allow me to. She turns away and allows me to only see and play with her from the back side. I tried going down on her, but doesn't allow DATY. She told me I should have asked in the beginning what I wanted. I wanted DATY. She said No! She got off the bed, puts her clothes back on, and walks out. I hear her talking loud to the mama. Mama comes back and gives back the house fee. I walk out with no action. This girl never have me her name, but she was tall, tanned, and had enhanced tits. She also had a tattoo on her side. Anyone knows who she is? Bad attitude. LOSER!!!Bb, read the post before you go hunting, theres a ivy at rose marie too, same thing as you reporting, theys many real good ones around, real good like, apple, sky, kelly jun, umi, and some good clean places, like lavender, vip, nievana, mama's nice and helpfull call and make an appointment to be sure.

Well hope this can help you guys.

Good luck, stay safe.

Kapalua
05-19-08, 17:03
Just curious about the tip thing. I agree to not pay tip before the service. I've learned my lesson also. But say you get bad service...or just for argument sake, you get less then average FS. What are you guys tipping then? To me it seems like I'm obligated to tip $.3 - $.5 just for the fact that I got fs. For bad fs, have you ever just tipped $?
For me it depends upon the amount of disappointment with the full service that was provided in a particular session. Very rarely have I received "bad" full service, because with many years of experience I can usually identify a "bad provider" before full service occurs. However, for "less than satisfactory" full service, I reduce the normal $150 tip by anywhere from $10 to $30 (depending upon the amount of disappointment). Years ago, I may have reduced the tip for disappointing full service by as much as $50 a few times, but at this point I don't specifically remember doing so.

Makana9
05-19-08, 18:38
For me it depends upon the amount of disappointment with the full service that was provided in a particular session. Very rarely have I received "bad" full service, because with many years of experience I can usually identify a "bad provider" before full service occurs. However, for "less than satisfactory" full service, I reduce the normal $150 tip by anywhere from $10 to $30 (depending upon the amount of disappointment). Years ago, I may have reduced the tip for disappointing full service by as much as $50 a few times, but at this point I don't specifically remember doing so.I feel the same also.

Again, real particular, & have walked out in no time flat if I did not like what I saw, heard, and did not get. Ask, bebe. =)

Not alot, but have reduced by as much as 50. 75(really, oh yeah they get mad) but I stand my ground, especially if ms know me. Usually good rep, will not dick you out of a tip, and give you what you deserve.

I actually gave a girl (old evergreen, now tokyo relax). 60. She was pissed, told MS(good friend) that she was the worst yet, MS & Girl (this was back in 90) grumble up (in Korean, lucky I understand some). Then girl walked off, and MS told me come back and make sure I get special. Next time I went back, got good special (w/June & her new friend). Good time, very good tip. Aww, the good ole days.

Be safe

K

Bench Warmer
05-20-08, 05:26
Reading another post, I found out the loser @ Gingers was Ivy.

I stopped by tonight and she is no longer there.

Captin Crunch
05-20-08, 12:00
I wonder if it was because of me?
I stopped by tonight and she is no longer there.

Pursuer
05-20-08, 16:07
I wonder if it was because of me?Power to mongers!

Bench Warmer
05-21-08, 05:47
Power to mongers!

Actually, I had a great time with her. Total GFE. Kinda hot too.

The thing about her is that I think I know her from somewhere else but I can't figure out where. I was thinking it might be Penny from CS, but I don't quite remember what Penny looked like.

Did Penny have any tats?

Hypo Luxa
05-21-08, 09:09
Did Penny have any tats?
She had an abdominal tat on the side that. I wish it were Penny/Lucky, but I think she's long gone.

DT Looker
05-22-08, 20:43
Trying to bring back on topic now, There is a rare provider called Gwen in DT. I've seen her off and on over the past several years. Initially she was a great BBJCIM, and I think was better than even Kim when she started. She has gone to rock bottom and dug her way to China now. Haven't had a finished up BJ in a while, she looks like she might have something about 1/2 the time. (Going covered now.)

She's a bit overweight, Fili, the biggest way to know her is that she is the one whose tongue is always hanging out, or looks like she is drooling. Has a quiet, sweet voice. Haven't had a good time with her for a long time. Last three times, no Mr. Happy and she wasn't really trying.

Bench Warmer
05-23-08, 04:08
She had an abdominal tat on the side that. I wish it were Penny/Lucky, but I think she's long gone.

Okay, so since she's not working at Ginger's anymore, I don't have to keep her a secret. Ha ha ha. Anyways, she was about 5'-3" tall, late 20's, early 30's, tight body with D implants, left boob had a slightly stray nipple, tribal arm band tat on left arm, another tat (I don't know what it was) on right hip, clean shaved, long black hair, very cute.

I'd swear I've been with her before but I didn't press when she didn't want to talk about prior employment. I really think it was Penny. I've only been with Penny once before and you know how long ago that had to have been. She said that she doesn't have to do this anymore but came back for a little while to take care of some short term difficulties.

So she gives me a TS and spends at least half the time soaping up my ass. We go back to the room and she goes to town on the rimming, then a little prostate probe while stroking me. My turn. DATY, FIV+FIA, then stick two digits, she asks for 3. So three digits in P (right hand) and one digit in A (left hand). I just hook the 3 digits into her G spot and she's getting totally crazy and so wet. So I couldn't wait any longer and I stick it in. BBFSTCIP. Man, I filled that peach like a cream puff! She didn't mind.

One of the best sessions I've had in years. Getting hard just thinking about it.

Bench Warmer
05-23-08, 04:15
Trying to bring back on topic now, There is a rare provider called Gwen in DT. I've seen her off and on over the past several years. Initially she was a great BBJCIM, and I think was better than even Kim when she started. She has gone to rock bottom and dug her way to China now. Haven't had a finished up BJ in a while, she looks like she might have something about 1/2 the time. (Going covered now.)

She's a bit overweight, Fili, the biggest way to know her is that she is the one whose tongue is always hanging out, or looks like she is drooling. Has a quiet, sweet voice. Haven't had a good time with her for a long time. Last three times, no Mr. Happy and she wasn't really trying.

Sorry to jack the thread but my post is a counter post to an earlier post about Ivy from Bar Butterfly. But I'm sure Bar Butterfly isn't losing sleep over her.

Play safe.

Hypo Luxa
05-23-08, 04:23
Okay, so since she's not working at Ginger's anymore, I don't have to keep her a secret. Ha ha ha.
I can understand if you want to keep someone to yourself, but I wouldn't mention her after the fact. It can kinda rub the members wrong...

Buck N Ham
05-23-08, 05:36
Gang,

The positive reports on providers are welcomed but can we post in the appropriate forum ie Massage Parlor Reports or Streetwalkers. Best to keep this forum to topic as it was originally setup for. "LOSERS: WOULD NOT REPEAT". Where we report on sub-par providers,

Here's my report:

I met up with a big titted latino looking provider from Cali at PT. Sorry I can't remember her name. No I was not drunk. She wasn't much to look at as she was short and chunky but her rack was hard to resist. No TS offered and we just jumped into action once she "returned" to the room. Gave me a quick but decent BJ and then we got into mish and doggie. No DATY allowed, no FIV or FIA and not even a peck on the lips. Controlled the session and would not allow me long, strong strokes building up to climax. Ended up mind-managing a slow churn to climax. Cleaned up, paid the fee and left.

Nothing to write home about and would not repeat. If you are a titty monger, she's one to check out but there's nothing else that would make me want to return to see her. YMMV.

Buck

PS. Did have a good time with Tomato a week later. See other forum for report.

Kapalua
05-23-08, 06:02
There is a rare provider called Gwen in DT. I've seen her off and on over the past several years. Initially she was a great BBJCIM, and I think was better than even Kim when she started. She has gone to rock bottom and dug her way to China now. Haven't had a finished up BJ in a while, she looks like she might have something about 1/2 the time. (Going covered now.)

She's a bit overweight, Fili, the biggest way to know her is that she is the one whose tongue is always hanging out, or looks like she is drooling. Has a quiet, sweet voice. Haven't had a good time with her for a long time. Last three times, no Mr. Happy and she wasn't really trying.
Many years ago, Gwen (also sometimes known as Pumpkin) usually gave good service and was fairly attractive. However, the combined effects of long-term drug abuse and mental illness have ruined her as a provider. In the middle of a session, Gwen may either quit or start complaining so much that a customer won't be able to finish (but she will still think that she deserves money for such pathetic performance). Also, she doesn't take care of herself and can look dirty and disheveled. In the past she has occasionally had ringworm, a contagious fungal skin infection that can be transmitted even when a customer uses a condom. She's mentally unstable -- would definitely recommend avoiding her.

Captin Crunch
06-01-08, 15:52
Not sure why she flaked on me, but I drove all the way to Aiea and she never answered her phone. She could have at least returned my call!

Un Holy
06-01-08, 23:31
She is at GQ now and she is old and fugly looking and acting like the same old ***** like before. She took a good pounding all covered but kept on making remarks. She is getting very insecure in her old age.

Captin Crunch
06-10-08, 09:22
Sounds like Crissy from Kailua offers great service, BUT is Unreliable and Picky in who she sees. I understand that she has to be careful of LE,but not wanting to see certain people its no good. I wanted to see her,but decided not to. Will continue to seek providers who are appreciative of my hard earn money. Providers and mamas of AMPs should realize there are other places to go and many other people to see. Everyday there are new post on CL. Happy Hunting!

Wet And Wild
06-11-08, 00:28
Sounds like Crissy from Kailua offers great service, BUT is Unreliable and Picky in who she sees. I understand that she has to be careful of LE,but not wanting to see certain people its no good. I wanted to see her,but decided not to. Will continue to seek providers who are appreciative of my hard earn money. Providers and mamas of AMPs should realize there are other places to go and many other people to see. Everyday there are new post on CL. Happy Hunting!I visited with her for the first time about a month ago and had a grand time. Give her a call and try it out for yourself. I would highly recommend her and she's one of my ATF, YMMV.

Aaron Colt
06-11-08, 03:35
Sounds like Crissy from Kailua offers great service, BUT is Unreliable and Picky in who she sees. I understand that she has to be careful of LE,but not wanting to see certain people its no good. I wanted to see her,but decided not to. Will continue to seek providers who are appreciative of my hard earn money. Providers and mamas of AMPs should realize there are other places to go and many other people to see. Everyday there are new post on CL. Happy Hunting!I saw her and had a great time with her. I think its great that she's selective. Its nice to know she's not taking any Tom, Dick or Henry that's blowing all their paycheck on a chance encounter with her.

Dude, be grateful there are an ABUNDANT of places like this on this island without them its highly unlikely you would even have any chance of getting laid.

Aaron Colt
06-11-08, 03:36
Not sure why she flaked on me, but I drove all the way to Aiea and she never answered her phone. She could have at least returned my call!

Im beginning to put together a common theme with you and providers.

PopoloGirl
06-11-08, 20:29
Unreliable... nah:)

I am picky. I like clean, nice gentlemen. Mainly because even my massage is a lot more intimate than most providers offer and if I am not enjoying your company, you might not enjoy mine:)

I also run a 'legit' business that keeps me busy so I never see more than 2-3 clients a day. But they are never leave unsatisfied (at least I dont think they have)

Maybe one day we will meet (although I am traveling now, just wanted to check in on you boys)

xoxo

Crissy

http://crissy.ultraescort.com

Sounds like Crissy from Kailua offers great service, BUT is Unreliable and Picky in who she sees. I understand that she has to be careful of LE,but not wanting to see certain people its no good. I wanted to see her,but decided not to. Will continue to seek providers who are appreciative of my hard earn money. Providers and mamas of AMPs should realize there are other places to go and many other people to see. Everyday there are new post on CL. Happy Hunting!

Kapalua
06-12-08, 13:41
Unreliable... nah :)
If you're not unreliable, you might want to respond to message #1453 ("Left hanging") posted by Khopesh in the Massage Therapists thread. That message seems to refer to you. According to the customer's report, after the first session the provider sent an e-mail confirming the customer's next appointment, but the provider then failed to respond when the customer arrived for the appointment (wasting the customer's round-trip travel time plus the twenty minutes that the customer waited for the provider). The customer reported that he then "rebooked for that Saturday evening," but again received no response when he called to reconfirm the second appointment before driving to the other side of the island. If I was in business as a provider and didn't want potential customers to think that I was unreliable, I would at least respond to that message.

Dan1388
06-12-08, 17:21
Unreliable... nah:)

I am picky. I like clean, nice gentlemen.Even so, making a confirmation then bailing on the guy twice is uncalled for. although it is up to you i guess. most prostitutes can do that if they want, its just good to know which ones do that so we dont waste our time, now we know thanks!

Aaron Colt
06-13-08, 04:18
If you're not unreliable, you might want to respond to message #1453 ("Left hanging") posted by Khopesh in the Massage Therapists thread. That message seems to refer to you. According to the customer's report, after the first session the provider sent an e-mail confirming the customer's next appointment, but the provider then failed to respond when the customer arrived for the appointment (wasting the customer's round-trip travel time plus the twenty minutes that the customer waited for the provider). The customer reported that he then "rebooked for that Saturday evening," but again received no response when he called to reconfirm the second appointment before driving to the other side of the island. If I was in business as a provider and didn't want potential customers to think that I was unreliable, I would at least respond to that message.

She aint gotta do shit but be black and beautiful.

I made an appointment, drove from Waianae to Kailua to see her. Saw her and had the massage of the century time with her, a full 2 hour massage. If you feel your efforts in seeing her are not well rewarded then move on but its more unacceptable for unhappy customers to bad mouth her. She is, without question, in the top three masseuses on the island.

Kapalua
06-13-08, 06:20
If you feel your efforts in seeing her are not well rewarded then move on
So far, I've made no efforts to see her.




but its more unacceptable for unhappy customers to bad mouth her.
In fact, Khopesh praised her service and appearance. He said that his session with her was "excellent," that she provided a "very relaxing massage," and that she was "amazing," "beautiful," and had "sexy eyes." However, he reported that she was unreliable in keeping appointments after the first session. If true, that's helpful information for forum members to know. If the provider contends that what he reported about her unreliability is not true, then she should specifically respond. A provider can't expect to make use of this forum for free advertising and self-promotion, yet be immune from questions about unreliability.




She is, without question, in the top three masseuses on the island.
That could be correct, but if she's unreliable about keeping appointments, some potential customers may not be interested. So it would be useful to hear her side of the story about that issue.

Cudad
06-13-08, 08:28
If you're not unreliable, you might want to respond to message #1453 ("Left hanging") posted by Khopesh in the Massage Therapists thread. That message seems to refer to you. According to the customer's report, after the first session the provider sent an e-mail confirming the customer's next appointment, but the provider then failed to respond when the customer arrived for the appointment (wasting the customer's round-trip travel time plus the twenty minutes that the customer waited for the provider). The customer reported that he then "rebooked for that Saturday evening," but again received no response when he called to reconfirm the second appointment before driving to the other side of the island. If I was in business as a provider and didn't want potential customers to think that I was unreliable, I would at least respond to that message.Right up front, I want to make it clear that I have not yet had the privilege of sampling the delights that Crissy aka Popologirl has to offer. But, I would hardly write her off just for being picky, and opting for cleanliness. I think the most deterring factor would be amassing the small fortune that would be necessary to continue with what would surely become an addictive attraction to a positive environment, where a beautiful woman is creating a scenario that lures you in with pleasure and keeps you coming back for the squeaky clean feeling.

Although I must agree that it makes good business sense to keep your appointments once they are confirmed, or to at least let the customer, (especially a potential repeat customer), know if something changes, I would also have to point out that a potential customer could do himself a great service if he would RTFF and apply the valuable knowledge found therein.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but message #1453 ("Left hanging") posted by Khopesh in the Massage Therapists thread seems to refer to the events that folllowed "an excellent first experience with Chrissy [sic] for May 2nd".

Although Crissy aka Popologirl never completely confirms that she is the "Chrissy" referenced in message #1453, she never exactly denies it either. And the parallels are rather damningly coincidental. For example, her May 3rd posting about her mid-May vacation says: "for those of you who are intimidated by that long drive over the Pali a couple of days a week, I will be able to see you in town near the zoo/ diamond head."

This "Pali" reference seems to fit well with the quote from Khopesh, who in reference to his second unsuccessful attempt said: "When it was time to take the Pali I not only got no answer but it went straight to her voicemail". (What strikes me as interesting was that although he didn't post this comment until May 31st, he mentions that, after his first unsuccessful attenpt, he "then drove back to Diamond Head".)

Now, my goal is not to bust on either one of them.

Khopesh has straight out admitted to being new to this stuff, and has asked for the advice of his more experienced brethren. So, we do need to be understanding if he's still learning to RTFF. But, once again kudos to Brother Khopesh for swallowing his pride and asking for a little help.

Now, as for Popologirl, Crissy comes with quite a few high references since before she began to post on this forum on March 21st.

I may buy that a guy with only a handful of reports might attempt to present that as evidence that he has had minimal exposure to the Forum.

But, those with more than 50 reports are gonna have a hard time convincing anyone that they've had so little exposure to the Forum that they don't know what's going on.

From the beginning, Crissy has not only made it a point to let us know that she believes that cleanliness is important; she even (on April 30 and again on May 4th) spelled out specific positive hygienic steps to getting mo' better action, both with her and with her competition. Additionally, she has stated, and even those who spoke of her before March 21st have mentioned that she has shower facilities at her place. So, if you left home without a shower for whatever reason, or if you worked up a sweat or took a serious crap, or any other thing that might make you slightly less desirable than your normal self, it seems like it would certainly be a good thing to go ahead and ask to use the shower upon arrival. Personally, even walking in straightway from having taken a shower, I would feel more embarrassed to not ask to take a shower.

I know, some of you brothers have expressed hurt feelings that a provider does not respect your hard earned kalas enough to just take you as you are, be that unkempt, unbathed, or in some cases even unwiped. Most of the providers worth going to tend to reinvest your hard earned money into things that will contribute to that cleanliness: shower soap, mouthwash, and even laundry soap and bleach so that those little hot towels get some kind of cleaning between you and the unwashed puka scratcher before you.

Now, if your money is still more precious to you than your cleanliness, I'm sure there must some crack ho's, or meth heads, who don't think twice about the whole clean up routine (for you OR for themselves). And if you catch them at a desperate enough time, they might be so grateful to get anything that you might even save a few bucks on a few f*cks.

But, I believe that most of you brothers actually have more class than that, and may just feel embarrassed about asking for a shower, thinking that people will wonder what's wrong. Or you may be worried about lost time.

I have personally found that any QUANTITY of time lost by taking a shower first, has more than paid for itself in the QUALITY of the deed to follow, to include things that some of you complain about wanting , but never getting.

Sometimes you got to give a little to get a little.

But, I don't want to judge anybody's tastes here. If you really do prefer dirty nasty skanks, who don't care much for cleanliness, that's your business, and your right to spend your hard earned money on them.

In fact, I would ask that you please do pursue your tastes in that direction, and leave the clean, picky women for the guys that actually do take pride in being clean.

If you actually do take pride in being clean, then there's no reason to be embarrassed to ask to take a shower when you arrive. What? Are they all gonna start saying, "Oh, look at that brother... He's too CLEAN for me!"?

Just my two cents...

Scottyscott
06-13-08, 18:44
Not good. Don’t waste your money. Please see post in “Best HJ’s” for more details.

Atrain35
06-17-08, 03:40
I went to Smile Spa just to check it out. Now, I know why I rarely hear about this place on the forum. Everything seemed as usual when I walked in. The MS brought in a younger (early 20s) local mixed girl by the name of Mercedes. Uhm. Whatever. She was pretty enough, 5'6", tanned, light curly hair, and curvy. Fairly attractive.

But, then she started to interrogate me. She asked me where I lived, what my job was, my age, how did I hear about the place, why was I there (are you serious? . Why was I there? . Hello! ), and then started to lay down all the "don't touch me there and I don't do" rules. By that time I knew that this was a big mistake. So, I asked her to bring back the MS and I told her that I had changed my mind and why. The MS gave me back the house fee and apologized for the girl. Then MS went on to tell me that the girls she has now have too many rules and don't know what the "f" they're doing. Half the time MS has to take over. Crazy huh? Anyways, Mercedes was a real buzz kill and turned me off before anything could get started. As always, YMMV. But, I'll never go back.

Kapalua
06-18-08, 04:37
The MS gave me back the house fee and apologized for the girl. Then MS went on to tell me that the girls she has now have too many rules and don't know what the "f" they're doing. Half the time MS has to take over.
In my opinion, at least the mama would get some credit for being refreshingly candid about the problem. :)

PopoloGirl
07-03-08, 16:12
Unfortunately for me and you guys here, I have been dealing with an insanely difficult travel schedule and a busy work schedule and I have had little time to come visit the forum.

But after doing a search for my name to make sure all is well in mongerhappiness, HI... I am sad to see the conversation has taken this route.

As for the gentleman in question, our first appointment was missed and subsequently rescheduled pending confirmation. The appointment was not ever confirmed.

I have several reasons why I may not keep an appointment, but I will discuss that with the person individually. I am approaching my 3rd year of serving you gentlemen here in Hawaii and so far, 2 gentlemen have complained about me. All in all, I think thats doing pretty well. I wish I was holding a flawless record, but eh... I too am human:)

Due to a personal matter on the mainland, I have had to go back and forth to Chicago 3 times since May. Many of my appointments during this time where either not confirmed, canceled or postponed.

Because of the uncertainty in my schedule I have pretty much stopped advertising all together, so as not to attract new clients who may be frustrated or otherwise not understanding of the difficulty in scheduling at this time.

Thank you for those of you who I have seen and have stood up for me. I have a special treat in it for you on your next visit over here:)


So far, I've made no efforts to see her.

In fact, Khopesh praised her service and appearance. He said that his session with her was "excellent," that she provided a "very relaxing massage," and that she was "amazing," "beautiful," and had "sexy eyes." However, he reported that she was unreliable in keeping appointments after the first session. If true, that's helpful information for forum members to know. If the provider contends that what he reported about her unreliability is not true, then she should specifically respond. A provider can't expect to make use of this forum for free advertising and self-promotion, yet be immune from questions about unreliability.

That could be correct, but if she's unreliable about keeping appointments, some potential customers may not be interested. So it would be useful to hear her side of the story about that issue.

DownAndOut
07-04-08, 00:20
Unfortunately for me and you guys here, I have been dealing with an insanely difficult travel schedule and a busy work schedule and I have had little time to come visit the forum.

But after doing a search for my name to make sure all is well in mongerhappiness, HI... I am sad to see the conversation has taken this route.

As for the gentleman in question, our first appointment was missed and subsequently rescheduled pending confirmation. The appointment was not ever confirmed.

I have several reasons why I may not keep an appointment, but I will discuss that with the person individually. I am approaching my 3rd year of serving you gentlemen here in Hawaii and so far, 2 gentlemen have complained about me. All in all, I think thats doing pretty well. I wish I was holding a flawless record, but eh... I too am human:)

Due to a personal matter on the mainland, I have had to go back and forth to Chicago 3 times since May. Many of my appointments during this time where either not confirmed, canceled or postponed.

Because of the uncertainty in my schedule I have pretty much stopped advertising all together, so as not to attract new clients who may be frustrated or otherwise not understanding of the difficulty in scheduling at this time.

Thank you for those of you who I have seen and have stood up for me. I have a special treat in it for you on your next visit over here:)Had an excellent time with Crissy today. Excellent. You will recall my earlier posts about a missed connection and that she followed up with me afterwards with an explanation and apologing. It was all good. So in light of the recent disccussion about her, for what it's worth, I had an excellent time with her today.

Dragon419
07-26-08, 06:44
Decided to try Sonya at Imperial based on some good reviews here. Unfortunately, this filipino chick that has a thirty something body but 40 something face was a disaster. She left me to shower alone, and then wanted to get right into the bj. She refused to take off her top and after a few minutes spread her legs and wanted to do it. She did let me DATY but after 5 minutes, kept pulling on my head to come up and do it. Lot of fake moans and no kissing on neck, ears, etc. After the deed, I asked about the massage and she asked me for the tip and told me she'd be back to give me a massage. Well she never came back. I complained to the older ladies in the lobby. And one of them whispered to me that she's had other complaints. Avoid this one!

Kapalua
07-26-08, 10:37
She refused to take off her top
Unless she provided a good reason for refusing to do so, personally I would have left at that point.

Captin Crunch
07-26-08, 14:04
Unless she provided a good reason for refusing to do so, personally I would have left at that point.has anyone just got up and left because a provider has tooooo many rules? I only left when i didn't like what she looked like.

H Mobius
07-26-08, 16:13
Decided to try Sonya at Imperial based on some good reviews here. Unfortunately, this filipino chick that has a thirty something body but 40 something face was a disaster. She left me to shower alone, and then wanted to get right into the bj. She refused to take off her top and after a few minutes spread her legs and wanted to do it. She did let me DATY but after 5 minutes, kept pulling on my head to come up and do it. Lot of fake moans and no kissing on neck, ears, etc. After the deed, I asked about the massage and she asked me for the tip and told me she'd be back to give me a massage. Well she never came back. I complained to the older ladies in the lobby. And one of them whispered to me that she's had other complaints. Avoid this one!Oh yeah, bra. I stopped going there years ago. Had a similar problem with a young Korean one, who actually spoke like she was from Cali. Just like yours, she wanted to get into the HJ, all serious and shit. She didn't disappear, though. Couldn't even kiss her butt (it was real nice and round). Anyway she looked guilty/bummed when she realized I was turned off. When I left she was hanging her head, never went back, plus the shower stunk. Personally I'm disappointed to see locals doing this (sure, they can then survive); it is a job for unemployable foreigners IMHO.

Kapalua
07-26-08, 21:27
has anyone just got up and left because a provider has tooooo many rules?
Yes, over the years I've done that several times. Occasionally I can predict that a session just isn't going to be good, and prefer to cut my loss. In this particular case, I would have asked the provider why she wouldn't remove her top. If she gave a valid reason, I wouldn't have left at that point. However, if she merely said that she didn't want to or have to remove her top, that it was too much effort to remove her top, that it was her policy not to remove her top, etc., I would have left -- not only because of her refusal to remove her top, but also because that refusal could be an indicator of a bad attitude and poor service during the session.

Idusixtyning
07-27-08, 07:57
has anyone just got up and left because a provider has tooooo many rules? I only left when i didn't like what she looked like.I've left after a girl took too long to come back to the room. Just got bad vibes and decided to go somewhere else even though dropping the house fee.

Bhbh808
08-09-08, 00:32
Supposed to be a stripbar/sportsbar/karaoke. Went there to avoid the insanity of the Obama arrival today. Had a couple of brews and enjoyed the Minnesota/Seattle preseason game. Tied at halftime. Good one. Beers reasonably priced. $3.50 for mgd. Bartender friendly. No hotties. Had one decent one when I came in at 4pm . She vanished. Then all the other guys left. And I was the only one left. Old Korean Hag/Scag senior citizen zeroed in on me like a heat seeking missile on a hot spot. Practically dragged the $20 out of my wallet, really. She literally grabbed it away from me. I offered her a tip for her "massage" and she grabbed my 20, ***** wouldn't give it back or change. Took the whole goddamn thing. Ripped me off. Robbery . Poured herself a thimble sized "ladie's drink" of pepsi and swigged it. Made some sob story about how slow. I left. Fuck this. *****'s name was Sunny or Sonny or whatever. Fat old Korean hag. 50ish. I asked the bartender when the dancers show up. 630pm. Fucking late. For a Friday yet! Sad. Pathetic place with NO action whatsover. The C list tour on Keaumoku is loads more fun. At least they aren't pushy as fuck.

I was PISSED about my hard earned $20 . She literally grabbed it out of my wallet. I consider that the MOST expensive $20 Sunny ever made, because I'm NEVER gonna patron that place EVER again.

500 Lagoon bats .000 with me. Save your money and time guys. DON'T BOTHER. And if you ever see Sunny. Tell her to stick it where the SUNNY don't shine. About 20 times. Once for every buck. And not ONE dancer. Even on a Friday. Yeah it's airport. Yeah it's a minor league club. SO WHAT? ALL the clubs in town have SOME kind of action by at least 4PM. GEEZ . 55 year old fatass K-bitches don't count as "action" in any book. Certainly not mine!

And if LE /Liquor commission is reading this. Hey , isn't it ILLEGAL for a hostess to pour HERSELF a drink, non alcoholic or not? Isn't that the BARTENDER'S job? I work in the service industry and I believe that's the law for strip bars too as well as restaurant bars.

Bust that Fatass old Yobbo *****!

Captin Crunch
08-21-08, 17:07
Anyone new to report to this thread?

Hypo Luxa
08-21-08, 17:52
Depends if she poured Pepsi or not... Also, pretty much everyone over 21 who works in an establishment that serves liquor is required to have a liquor server's permit or something like that, so in that case it'd be fine if she were and employee drawing a check.

Not sure if that's how Hawaii works, but when I worked in the food service industry years ago in three states, that's how it worked in all of them.

Cleanman
08-21-08, 19:38
500 Lagoon bats .000 with me. Save your money and time guys. DON'T BOTHER. And if you ever see Sunny. Tell her to stick it where the SUNNY don't shine. About 20 times. Once for every buck. And not ONE dancer. Even on a Friday. Yeah it's airport. Yeah it's a minor league club. SO WHAT? ALL the clubs in town have SOME kind of action by at least 4PM. GEEZ . 55 year old fatass K-bitches don't count as "action" in any book. Certainly not mine!Good report. Sorry about the .2 loss. I go by 500 all the time and was wondering about that place. Thought about stoping in just to check it out, like you did, maybe see some dollar pussy action. I'll keep on going by and not stop in now that I know.

Thanks for the tip off. BLNT.

Kapalua
02-02-09, 05:19
From reviewing some of the various negative comments by forum members about the downtown streetwalker named Brenda, she must not have much repeat business. Rarely do I ever see her being picked up. These days, maybe she manages to occasionally catch a customer who doesn't know of her poor reputation.




Brenda is absolutely disgusting.



Saw ROB Brenda. She made eye contact and smiles. As if I would ever pick her up again, beeeeaaaaccchhhh!



Been seeing rob brenda out a lot recently. Don't pick her up, she is crap.



We agreed on .60 for everything. Once we got to the spot, she changed her mind and I was very pissed. I made her work for that .60!! I would avoid this "white" Brenda at all costs. She just comes off as miserable and empty!



She has a bossy attitude, as if she thinks that she's in charge of the session. In my experience she isn't a complete rip-off (she does provide service), but I wouldn't recommend her. If she was attractive it might be worth it to put up with her annoying attitude, but she's not.

Bhbh808
02-12-09, 10:40
First of all, is she one? Is the hot/cute /sexy (at least physically) hostess/dancer/whatever that you wanna nail a Rip Off *****? Okay, let's run the checklist and see....

Does she smile? Is she nice or pushy? Is she demanding a drink or rude in ANY way? Does she put HER needs/wants above yours?
Is she a cock tease? Does she drink too fast and charge way too much?
Is she a *****? Is she a ****?

If any of these things happen in your interaction with her and you didn't do anything to deserve it, congratulations you've met an official ROB (Rip Off *****).

The problem with ROBs for noobie mongers is that we try to be too nice, we try to accomodate THEM. That's THEIR job. They're supposed to accomodate US

If a hostess/waitress/dancer/masseuse is putting their own wants above yours, mentally file her away in the "fuck off" file and move on.

Don't tip her. Don't be nice to her. And MOST DEFINITELY DON'T Spend a penny on HER.

The old equation is money for honey and honey for money. If they ain't giving no honey, give no money.

Too many guys have the whole equation backwards. We say, "No money, no honey." Well why are we there in the FIRST place? The honey. So it should actually be "No honey, no money. Honey."

Captin Crunch
02-12-09, 13:12
Exactly! It's their job to provide a service to us. If the service is bad, don't repeat. I know it's only one mans opinion, but its his opinion on a service that was rendered to him. In bad economic times like this, service should be better! I would think you would see more action from those who never played ball before. They should play more for less money spent. Just like "cars cost less at Cutter"; it should be "play more for less @ kbs". Spread the wealth of info to you fellow bros. Let everyone know who are the LOSERS, so no one repeats. Let them read who they are, so lose customers or give better service.QUOTE=Bhbh808]First of all, is she one? Is the hot/cute /sexy (at least physically) hostess/dancer/whatever that you wanna nail a Rip Off *****? Okay, let's run the checklist and see....

Does she smile? Is she nice or pushy? Is she demanding a drink or rude in ANY way? Does she put HER needs/wants above yours?
Is she a cock tease? Does she drink too fast and charge way too much?
Is she a *****? Is she a ****?

If any of these things happen in your interaction with her and you didn't do anything to deserve it, congratulations you've met an official ROB (Rip Off *****).

The problem with ROBs for noobie mongers is that we try to be too nice, we try to accomodate THEM. That's THEIR job. They're supposed to accomodate US

If a hostess/waitress/dancer/masseuse is putting their own wants above yours, mentally file her away in the "fuck off" file and move on.

Don't tip her. Don't be nice to her. And MOST DEFINITELY DON'T Spend a penny on HER.

The old equation is money for honey and honey for money. If they ain't giving no honey, give no money.

Too many guys have the whole equation backwards. We say, "No money, no honey." Well why are we there in the FIRST place? The honey. So it should actually be "No honey, no money. Honey."[/QUOTE]

Tyrone Biggins
06-01-09, 06:07
has anyone just got up and left because a provider has tooooo many rules? I only left when i didn't like what she looked like.
No, I don't.
I tell them ok and I just abuse them in the room. (not physically, but sexually).
I don't 'nut' and I make them do all these positions by telling them that I'll nut by doing so. When I don't, they ask, "Why?". Then I keep on making them change it up every 5 minutes or so.
I like to play the bitchy providers by sitting on their back holding the fishing pole with the carrot attached making them walk forward.
And to top it off, I don't tip them the whole "standard" 15. Just for kicks.
They f*** with me, I do the same.

Backdoorflush
06-01-09, 22:59
Decided to try Sonya at Imperial based on some good reviews here. Unfortunately, this filipino chick that has a thirty something body but 40 something face was a disaster. She left me to shower alone, and then wanted to get right into the bj. She refused to take off her top and after a few minutes spread her legs and wanted to do it. She did let me DATY but after 5 minutes, kept pulling on my head to come up and do it. Lot of fake moans and no kissing on neck, ears, etc. After the deed, I asked about the massage and she asked me for the tip and told me she'd be back to give me a massage. Well she never came back. I complained to the older ladies in the lobby. And one of them whispered to me that she's had other complaints. Avoid this one!That's too bad that her service went down. I saw her a couple times about a year ago. She didn't want to take off her top because she was shame that she had no tits or they were droopy. Her body was tight and her face has seen better days. The one thing about her was she gave up the anal on my first try. Even went backdoor to frontdoor to backdoor without any complaints from her. Some girls freak. As they all say. YMMV.

Comp Dude 35
06-03-09, 13:55
If she remembers you, everything is all there for the taking. Her face is not that bad considering she is in her 40s, so just take the bod and use your imagination for the rest. For those who do know her, you know that her cums real hard with the DATY; just need to take control and don't let her control you.
CD35


That's too bad that her service went down. I saw her a couple times about a year ago. She didn't want to take off her top because she was shame that she had no tits or they were droopy. Her body was tight and her face has seen better days. The one thing about her was she gave up the anal on my first try. Even went backdoor to frontdoor to backdoor without any complaints from her. Some girls freak. As they all say. YMMV.

H Mobius
06-07-09, 17:56
Only had 2 girls, tried Yuki (korean). Started off ok but then she turned into an asshole shortly into the session, Demanding the tip on-the-spot. I wasn't even doing anything, just getting started. I mentioned that I had been going there for years and the ms knows me (ms smiled when she saw me as it's been a few months); she gave a wise answer so I said fuck it and got dressed. I don't like to get angry and I could see things would escalate fast with this fucken asshole. She was surprised so I told her why I was leaving. I was surprised too as I always had good luck there.

Ms wasn't around or I would've told her. Gave a reduced tip because I did in fact get some flesh and enough tit play (I'm a tit man) so it wasn't a Total waste. But definitely will NOT repeat.

I should've known better than to ignore my own policy: never select a girl who is obviously not interested, only choose from amongst the eager.

She's Possibly YMMV, but partake at your own risk.

H M

Moki400
06-08-09, 15:41
Only had 2 girls, tried Yuki (korean). Started off ok but then she turned into an asshole shortly into the session, Demanding the tip on-the-spot. I wasn't even doing anything, just getting started. I mentioned that I had been going there for years and the ms knows me (ms smiled when she saw me as it's been a few months); she gave a wise answer so I said fuck it and got dressed. I don't like to get angry and I could see things would escalate fast with this fucken asshole. She was surprised so I told her why I was leaving. I was surprised too as I always had good luck there.

Ms wasn't around or I would've told her. Gave a reduced tip because I did in fact get some flesh and enough tit play (I'm a tit man) so it wasn't a Total waste. But definitely will NOT repeat.

I should've known better than to ignore my own policy: never select a girl who is obviously not interested, only choose from amongst the eager.

She's Possibly YMMV, but partake at your own risk.

H MYou mentioned that she was surprised on why you left, obviously she must be YMMV, or new provider or These chicks just don't get it! Demanding $$ first, giving wise answers, being rude turns guys off. If this girl was polite instead of wise mouthing you, it would have been ok. Now nobody will want to see this provider and maybe stay away from there.

Ck813
06-08-09, 18:01
Just look at the MS and her attitude. I would have gotten my house fee back fee and tipped her maybe $25.00.

If they call Their security fuck it. They do not want trouble, they are there to defuse the problem without it exploding so that the cops are called.

My rule of thumb is go only with the girls that you know. I have had too many girls like you. Pay $50.00 up front, drop the $150.00 only to have a shitty experience.

My personal best are

Yuri, Cyndi from VIP, Yumi from Nirvanna, and Kelly from Ichiban. I would say all the Korean girls at VIP will give you good service. I totally stay away from any AMP on Ward.

P10, VIP, Pine Tree, Junko's place, Nirvanna, these are all safe places to me.

I would not rough them up like Mr. Biggins as these girls do have rights and not to be raped is one of them.


Only had 2 girls, tried Yuki (korean). Started off ok but then she turned into an asshole shortly into the session, Demanding the tip on-the-spot. I wasn't even doing anything, just getting started. I mentioned that I had been going there for years and the ms knows me (ms smiled when she saw me as it's been a few months); she gave a wise answer so I said fuck it and got dressed. I don't like to get angry and I could see things would escalate fast with this fucken asshole. She was surprised so I told her why I was leaving. I was surprised too as I always had good luck there.

Ms wasn't around or I would've told her. Gave a reduced tip because I did in fact get some flesh and enough tit play (I'm a tit man) so it wasn't a Total waste. But definitely will NOT repeat.

I should've known better than to ignore my own policy: never select a girl who is obviously not interested, only choose from amongst the eager.

She's Possibly YMMV, but partake at your own risk.

H M

Captin Crunch
06-08-09, 23:09
Hello All,
With money being tight, can someone put out a personal list of Losers or ROBs that are out there in the Amps, bars, massage trade, and independent escort trade. I don't think many of you out there would want to TOFTT.
Thanx

Moki400
06-09-09, 04:58
That's too bad that her service went down. I saw her a couple times about a year ago. She didn't want to take off her top because she was shame that she had no tits or they were droopy. Her body was tight and her face has seen better days. The one thing about her was she gave up the anal on my first try. Even went backdoor to frontdoor to backdoor without any complaints from her. Some girls freak. As they all say. YMMV.Is this sonya, pinay from Imperial? She was shy about her tits, but she always let me suck. great 69 daty and mish until I exploded.

Happy endings & then I left.

Stevet09
06-09-09, 15:05
I would not rough them up like Mr. Biggins as these girls do have rights and not to be raped is one of them.I wonder if anyone here in recent memory said they would "rape" any of these girls? I think the word "abuse" can be taken out of context, and as for me, my interpretation of that, in this forum, is to give the girl a basic pounding. Simply because one of the things these girls usually don't like is a pouding in all different kine positions. If you don't believe me, just try it on every provider here on out. There are the few that are nymphos that are built to take a pounding and love it. These are gems, but most complain even when it's not a pounding. That is why, when the girl gives the old crapass attitude, it's within our rights to give a pounding. Rape? Pounding? I don't think they are the same thing. But, go ahead and assume shit if you wish, and make it sound more dramatic.

As a side note, I usually enjoy your posts Ck813.

Carmex
06-09-09, 15:31
I should've known better than to ignore my own policy: never select a girl who is obviously not interested, only choose from amongst the eager.

H MBra I've had to learn this lesson so many times I should have it inked on my arm. I've never had a good experience taking girls who are not interested. The best service you can hope for is mechanical at best, and usually rushed.

The difference between that and a chick that is in to you is phenomenal. You can apply this rule anywhere you go to monger (PI, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc).

I'm also careful about girls recommended from the MS also, unless you have good report (sp?) with her.

H Mobius
06-09-09, 22:41
I would not rough them up like Mr. Biggins as these girls do have rights and not to be raped is one of them.

When I was at the door of King Massage btw, had a small notice that said something to the effect that they will not tolerate anyone being "violated".

Also btw this Yuki is golden-brown tanned with brownish streaked black hair, with a small butterfly tat just above her crack.

Talon X
06-11-09, 04:42
I think the word "abuse" can be taken out of context, and as for me, my interpretation of that, in this forum, is to give the girl a basic pounding. I disagree. There is a fine line between "abuse" and "rough sex". This line is always drawn by the female. Guys should never feel that they have a right to "pound" for any reason. That mentality can lead to domestic abuse or rape. And it's never healthy to harbor such hatred to women. I've known escorts, bar girls, and MP girls that endured bouts of rough sex. Most of them feel like they've been raped. But they will never complain, because that's part of the business. It doesn't make it right. They eventually run away from the mental pain and we never see them again.
This forum helps me act like a "man". Sometimes, I take my lumps (TOFFT). My revenge for bad service is a bad post. I move on. I read the forum and avoid ROBs (stay educated). And if it looks too good to be true, it's normally a scam. Keep your losses low and learn from your mistakes. By posting, you let others learn from your mistakes (higher level of intelligence).

And let me give you a little advice about sex and love making (not the same thing). I like giving it long and slow. I love looking into my girl's eyes and watch her enjoy every stroke. Her pleasure is my pleasure. And there is no satisfaction equal to giving her a totally unforgettable experience. I love satisfying women. They know it. And they appreciate it. A lot. This translates into my personal life. My friends, remain friends. Some with benefits.

Keep it in mind. Try it out. You have nothing to lose and a lot to gain. TX.

Dan1388
06-11-09, 11:27
Wed night my friend and I went to VIP. I got Kitty, looks kind of like Shikira the singer if you know who that is. Very pretty caucasian looking but is hispanic. She entered the room, asked for money first (yes I know thats bad but I fell for it) I laid on my back and she tells me to flip with a big sigh like I'm inconveniencing her, so I flip and she puts on the rubber and starts the BJ, and I tell her "oh you're just going to start like that? " and she replies "yeah thats what I get paid to do". So I tell her to get off and I get dressed, she tells me I can complain to mama which I did. I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Kitty was a ***** to begin with and may have been one of the worst I've ever had. She had the caucasian attitude of providing horrible service. I'm out $2 and was nearly going to star a scene, but just left. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.

Hinode
06-11-09, 13:50
I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.

Thats a buncha BS. How can the mama NOT know that you didnt have sex with her? With all the cameras/clock watching/whatever their system is nowadays, the mama shoulda sided with you!!! At the very LEAST, I woulda only paid the house fee!! HO MY GOD...I feel so sorry for you man, thats a crock. Like G.M. Kap always says, you can up and leave at any time. I had a bad experience at RM long ago, and I did just what you did, but the mama refunded me my .50.

Thanks for the unfortunate report, but I woulda MADE a scene just to let others know (and the other girls) what NOT to do if you wanna stay in this biz and get paid. Remember, YOU'RE the customer in this instance!

H

Dan1388
06-11-09, 14:48
Thats a buncha BS. How can the mama NOT know that you didnt have sex with her? With all the cameras/clock watching/whatever their system is nowadays, the mama shoulda sided with you!!! At the very LEAST, I woulda only paid the house fee!! HO MY GOD...I feel so sorry for you man, thats a crock. Like G.M. Kap always says, you can up and leave at any time. I had a bad experience at RM long ago, and I did just what you did, but the mama refunded me my .50.

Thanks for the unfortunate report, but I woulda MADE a scene just to let others know (and the other girls) what NOT to do if you wanna stay in this biz and get paid. Remember, YOU'RE the customer in this instance!

HThanks Hinode, it seems like Kitty knew she could say I f*cked her already and I would have no way of proving I didn't. It was my fault for giving her the money first, but the mama was not going to give me the money back and Kitty sure as hell wasnt either, I felt totally powerless. All the mama said was "next time I give you good girl". Nothing like getting completely taken advantage of at the end of a night, I've had some bad experiences but this one takes it. Gawd, I can't believe how much of a ***** she was from the get go, I was really surprised at her attitude WOW! So save your money and do not take Kitty. The crappy thing is I'm out 2 bills and I still have my MP itch.

Badboy808
06-11-09, 15:09
Wed night my friend and I went to VIP. I got Kitty, looks kind of like Shikira the singer if you know who that is. Very pretty caucasian looking but is hispanic. She entered the room, asked for money first (yes I know thats bad but I fell for it) I laid on my back and she tells me to flip with a big sigh like I'm inconveniencing her, so I flip and she puts on the rubber and starts the BJ, and I tell her "oh you're just going to start like that? " and she replies "yeah thats what I get paid to do". So I tell her to get off and I get dressed, she tells me I can complain to mama which I did. I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Kitty was a ***** to begin with and may have been one of the worst I've ever had. She had the caucasian attitude of providing horrible service. I'm out $2 and was nearly going to star a scene, but just left. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.

Maybe you should have called your Cop friend for some help. Or was he already there with you?

Hk P Rider
06-11-09, 15:31
I disagree. There is a fine line between "abuse" and "rough sex". This line is always drawn by the female. Guys should never feel that they have a right to "pound" for any reason. That mentality can lead to domestic abuse or rape. And it's never healthy to harbor such hatred to women. I've known escorts, bar girls, and MP girls that endured bouts of rough sex. Most of them feel like they've been raped. But they will never complain, because that's part of the business. It doesn't make it right. They eventually run away from the mental pain and we never see them again.

This forum helps me act like a "man". Sometimes, I take my lumps (TOFFT). My revenge for bad service is a bad post. I move on. I read the forum and avoid ROBs (stay educated). And if it looks too good to be true, it's normally a scam. Keep your losses low and learn from your mistakes. By posting, you let others learn from your mistakes (higher level of intelligence).

And let me give you a little advice about sex and love making (not the same thing). I like giving it long and slow. I love looking into my girl's eyes and watch her enjoy every stroke. Her pleasure is my pleasure. And there is no satisfaction equal to giving her a totally unforgettable experience. I love satisfying women. They know it. And they appreciate it. A lot. This translates into my personal life. My friends, remain friends. Some with benefits.

Keep it in mind. Try it out. You have nothing to lose and a lot to gain. TX.TX,

This is a very good post.

I agree with you and feel the same way.

Comp Dude 35
06-11-09, 16:14
If they ask for the $ before the deed, I walk and tell MS I want my house fee back. When you do that, the MS will rail on the girl and you won't have to go through the trouble.
If I was in your situation, I would have taken control and fucked the shit out of her until she understands who is the one paying for service.
Just MHO, but never let the girl take control of the time; 15+ years of doing this shit makes you learn how to do things for YOUR benefit!
CD35


Wed night my friend and I went to VIP. I got Kitty, looks kind of like Shikira the singer if you know who that is. Very pretty caucasian looking but is hispanic. She entered the room, asked for money first (yes I know thats bad but I fell for it) I laid on my back and she tells me to flip with a big sigh like I'm inconveniencing her, so I flip and she puts on the rubber and starts the BJ, and I tell her "oh you're just going to start like that? " and she replies "yeah thats what I get paid to do". So I tell her to get off and I get dressed, she tells me I can complain to mama which I did. I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Kitty was a ***** to begin with and may have been one of the worst I've ever had. She had the caucasian attitude of providing horrible service. I'm out $2 and was nearly going to star a scene, but just left. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.

Dan1388
06-11-09, 16:46
Maybe you should have called your Cop friend for some help. Or was he already there with you?He was actually working, met us earlier outside of Evergreen.

What would you expect him to do? your rational does not make sense.

Jimmiedean
06-11-09, 18:19
Wed night my friend and I went to VIP. I got Kitty, looks kind of like Shikira the singer if you know who that is. Very pretty caucasian looking but is hispanic. She entered the room, asked for money first (yes I know thats bad but I fell for it) I laid on my back and she tells me to flip with a big sigh like I'm inconveniencing her, so I flip and she puts on the rubber and starts the BJ, and I tell her "oh you're just going to start like that? " and she replies "yeah thats what I get paid to do". So I tell her to get off and I get dressed, she tells me I can complain to mama which I did. I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Kitty was a ***** to begin with and may have been one of the worst I've ever had. She had the caucasian attitude of providing horrible service. I'm out $2 and was nearly going to star a scene, but just left. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.

Never knew she was like that. Had her before, back in the day. She seems cool. A bit rushed but very job oriented. Guess she's had bad customers. When I used 2 see her she never asked 4 the money upfront. I've had her maybe 10 times over the years. She's been in the business 4 awhile. But yeah she's not into the massage and no kissing or daty. I don't do the VIP thing cause of tsunamis. 2 easy 2 be seen. Try Yuri she is one of my atfs there. Guess money is tight, but from a post in mp area seems like VIP gets 2 much customers. I remember seeing taxis dropping off guys left and right. Usually foreigners. I think they have a Japanese clientele hook up with the taxis.

Dan1388
06-11-09, 18:35
Never knew she was like that. Had her before, back in the day. She seems cool. A bit rushed but very job oriented. Guess she's had bad customers. When I used 2 see her she never asked 4 the money upfront. I've had her maybe 10 times over the years. She's been in the business 4 awhile. But yeah she's not into the massage and no kissing or daty. I don't do the VIP thing cause of tsunamis. 2 easy 2 be seen. Try Yuri she is one of my atfs there. Guess money is tight, but from a post in mp area seems like VIP gets 2 much customers. I remember seeing taxis dropping off guys left and right. Usually foreigners. I think they have a Japanese clientele hook up with the taxis.Yeah I've seen her in various other places for quite some time. Tsunamis makes it very hard to get to VIP's usually I end up going after they close though.

If you count Kitty as caucasian then that is the 2nd terrible experience with that type of provider at VIP's. My first bad experience was with Hazel, details in the loser thread also. I prefer the more local type of girl rather than the full on korean with heavy accent, but I do understand the difference in service. I think the length of time Kitty has been doing this has given her a chip on her shoulder or something. VIP was not busy when I went on wed night.

Anyone know of any good local providers at an AMP let me know, thanks.

H Mobius
06-11-09, 23:16
Bra I've had to learn this lesson so many times I should have it inked on my arm. I've never had a good experience taking girls who are not interested. The best service you can hope for is mechanical at best, and usually rushed.

The difference between that and a chick that is in to you is phenomenal. You can apply this rule anywhere you go to monger (PI, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc).

I'm also careful about girls recommended from the MS also, unless you have good report (sp?) with her.

Thanks dude. Yup, "report" would be "rapport".

Vector56
06-12-09, 01:14
Yup, this happened to me before at PT awhile back. I can't remember her name but she started bad attitude, crappy shower, money upfront then straight to the cbj w/o any massage. I told her to stop and that I wanted my money back. Then she said talk to mama. Well, mama refused to give me the house fee which was understandable since I showered, and she said that she can't help me get the money back. I told mama that I'm not paying a service fee here, I'm tipping them for good service. In which none was had. The girl didn't want to give me back my money still so then I raised my voice and said that I'm not leaving until I got my money back. And they could call the police if they wanted too. After around 10 minutes of arguing, the mama finally told the girl in Korean to give me back the money in which she did. I guess she just wanted me out because I was disturbing the other customers. I waited outside for my friend to finish and when he came out he told me, dude that was you yelling, right? I just had to chuckle and nod.


Wed night my friend and I went to VIP. I got Kitty, looks kind of like Shikira the singer if you know who that is. Very pretty caucasian looking but is hispanic. She entered the room, asked for money first (yes I know thats bad but I fell for it) I laid on my back and she tells me to flip with a big sigh like I'm inconveniencing her, so I flip and she puts on the rubber and starts the BJ, and I tell her "oh you're just going to start like that? " and she replies "yeah thats what I get paid to do". So I tell her to get off and I get dressed, she tells me I can complain to mama which I did. I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Kitty was a ***** to begin with and may have been one of the worst I've ever had. She had the caucasian attitude of providing horrible service. I'm out $2 and was nearly going to star a scene, but just left. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.

Blake123
06-12-09, 04:32
Yeah I've seen her in various other places for quite some time. Tsunamis makes it very hard to get to VIP's usually I end up going after they close though.


No need to worry about Tsunami anymore. They have moved to a new locatiion. Landlord at Samsung Plaza wanted too much for the lease.

Dan1388
06-12-09, 04:58
No need to worry about Tsunami anymore. They have moved to a new locatiion. Landlord at Samsung Plaza wanted too much for the lease.Great. That was one of the only deterrents that stopped me from going so much.

John Ross
06-12-09, 04:58
No need to worry about Tsunami anymore. They have moved to a new locatiion. Landlord at Samsung Plaza wanted too much for the lease.
Unfortunately, Tsunami moved to King Street in the bldg that houses Golden Massage. Tried going there last week and all these cars and people were outside.

Jimmiedean
06-12-09, 05:10
Unfortunately, Tsunami moved to King Street in the bldg that houses Golden Massage. Tried going there last week and all these cars and people were outside.

LOL there they go torturing a new set of mongers with shame. I heat when there is so much traffic around an amp u want 2 visit.

Dan1388
06-12-09, 05:11
Yup, this happened to me before at PT awhile back. I can't remember her name but she started bad attitude, crappy shower, money upfront then straight to the cbj w/o any massage. I told her to stop and that I wanted my money back. Then she said talk to mama. Well, mama refused to give me the house fee which was understandable since I showered, and she said that she can't help me get the money back. I told mama that I'm not paying a service fee here, I'm tipping them for good service. In which none was had. The girl didn't want to give me back my money still so then I raised my voice and said that I'm not leaving until I got my money back. And they could call the police if they wanted too. After around 10 minutes of arguing, the mama finally told the girl in Korean to give me back the money in which she did. I guess she just wanted me out because I was disturbing the other customers. I waited outside for my friend to finish and when he came out he told me, dude that was you yelling, right? I just had to chuckle and nod.I honestly think its come to a point where some girls don't consider $2 a substantial amount of money. Yes.50 goes to house but the customers are dropping 2 bills.

It bothered me that there are basically no repercussions for girls who rip you off.

Tyrone Biggins
06-13-09, 08:36
I wonder if anyone here in recent memory said they would "rape" any of these girls? I think the word "abuse" can be taken out of context, and as for me, my interpretation of that, in this forum, is to give the girl a basic pounding. Simply because one of the things these girls usually don't like is a pouding in all different kine positions. If you don't believe me, just try it on every provider here on out. There are the few that are nymphos that are built to take a pounding and love it. These are gems, but most complain even when it's not a pounding. That is why, when the girl gives the old crapass attitude, it's within our rights to give a pounding. Rape? Pounding? I don't think they are the same thing. But, go ahead and assume shit if you wish, and make it sound more dramatic.

As a side note, I usually enjoy your posts Ck813.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Steve.

Ck813 -
My post was not meant to be derogatory in anyway. I did not hope that anyone perceived it in such a way, however judging by your post, I trust you did.
My gripe, and I admit that it was MY OWN FAULT, was that I assumed a certain provider would give good service and as a result, I paid her tip before the deed was done. Once the deed commenced, I got one of the WORST service in my life. So I decided to fuck with her to make her work for that 150. I kept making her do different positions to delay my nut, until the whole hour was up. That's basically what I was implying/trying to say. I regret you took my previous statement into a wrong position, however I was just stating facts about one of the ROBS in my life, and how I would not let it happen to me again. If any of the 'reg provs' I visit shall do the same to me (since I pay them upfront because I'm a regular 'john'), I will make them 'earn' their scripts, was what I was trying to say. I apologize on my end for not being thorough with the whole experience and (personal) aftermath realization.
Hope this clears up any misconception regarding my post. I do NOT condone 'rape' in anyway, as you have interpreted from my post (remember, I pre paid that bukyak (c**t) before services were rendered). Understand that, and I think we can go on by forgetting this unfortunate misunderstanding. Hell, I enjoy reading your reports, so IMO, I think it'd be a waste to burn bridges here.
I look forward to your reply by post/PM.
Peace.

John Ross
06-13-09, 09:11
LOL there they go torturing a new set of mongers with shame. I heat when there is so much traffic around an amp u want 2 visit.
Friday night was worse. The people going to Tsunamis took all the parking, too.

Talon X
06-13-09, 14:43
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Steve.

Ck813 -
My post was not meant to be derogatory in anyway. I did not hope that anyone perceived it in such a way. Hope this clears up any misconception regarding my post. I do NOT condone 'rape' in anyway, as you have interpreted from my post.
Peace.Sorry I mis-interpreted your post. I know how gratifying it is to find a nympho who loves and enjoys sex. When she tells you "harder" and "don't stop", that can really wake up the "boto". I agree with you about the ROBs. I've been turned off so much by some providers that I walked out without conclusion. Went home, found a good movie, and did a "Hands Solo" (Princess Lie-Ya look out). Please remember that the girls are human and they can be having bad days or might have experienced something bad before your encounter. Some of the girls ask us to pay first, because they plan to give us bad service (ROBs). Others will plan how good they will provide, depending on the fees. Sometimes it's worthwhile to dangle a carrot and show them you have more money in your wallet for extra tipping. Lot of girls have been short changed (no standard fee 150) and some guys even think they can leave 50 for FS. Its good to set up the rules "before hand" (sorry for the pun). Tell'em what you want (DATY, FIV, DFK, Greek, etc) and negotiate the terms. Some girls will let you do more, just to get rid of Greek services or DFK. Just want to say, that I understand you now and apologize for the ripping. I've been in those shoes and I didn't like it too.

Sorry.

TX.

Tyrone Biggins
06-14-09, 07:29
Sorry I mis-interpreted your post. I know how gratifying it is to find a nympho who loves and enjoys sex. When she tells you "harder" and "don't stop", that can really wake up the "boto". I agree with you about the ROBs. I've been turned off so much by some providers that I walked out without conclusion. Went home, found a good movie, and did a "Hands Solo" (Princess Lie-Ya look out). Please remember that the girls are human and they can be having bad days or might have experienced something bad before your encounter. Some of the girls ask us to pay first, because they plan to give us bad service (ROBs). Others will plan how good they will provide, depending on the fees. Sometimes it's worthwhile to dangle a carrot and show them you have more money in your wallet for extra tipping. Lot of girls have been short changed (no standard fee 150) and some guys even think they can leave 50 for FS. Its good to set up the rules "before hand" (sorry for the pun). Tell'em what you want (DATY, FIV, DFK, Greek, etc) and negotiate the terms. Some girls will let you do more, just to get rid of Greek services or DFK. Just want to say, that I understand you now and apologize for the ripping. I've been in those shoes and I didn't like it too.

Sorry.

TX.

I must've missed the post where you ripped me, but I appreciate your reply.
Glad that I was able to convey what I really meant to someone, at least. =)
It means a lot, because I value my reputation and contributions on this forum, as I do other users. It would be a shame to have whatever I post be considered as usless banter, only because my posts are at times mis-interpreted. I'm frank and don't sugar coat things, so it may come off as being a prick.
Your comments on the 'negotiation' sounds fair. Especially with new territory. I'll try it. Reason I picked that c*nt was because my old partner had suddenly left the joint. She was hovering around MS when I was talking to her and jumped in to convince me that the product would be well worth it and that she would be the 'replacement', per say. Stupid me. I took her word for it. =/ Shit happens.
All I can say is I'll do what I can to not let it happen again, period.
Thanks again for replying.
Peace.

Jimmiedean
06-14-09, 12:18
When I was at the door of King Massage btw, had a small notice that said something to the effect that they will not tolerate anyone being "violated".

Also btw this Yuki is golden-brown tanned with brownish streaked black hair, with a small butterfly tat just above her crack.

Oh ok ur talking about Yuri. She used to be at vip for a long time she must of moved to pt now. Saw a post of a positive one at pt of a Yuri and was trying to figure out if you two were talking about the same person

H Mobius
06-14-09, 12:37
Oh ok ur talking about Yuri. She used to be at vip for a long time she must of moved to pt now. Saw a post of a positive one at pt of a Yuri and was trying to figure out if you two were talking about the same person

She's one of the laptop users and is probably saying "challasso" right now :).

Probably differentiating us, too, he-he!

Badboy808
06-15-09, 20:38
He was actually working, met us earlier outside of Evergreen.

What would you expect him to do? your rational does not make sense.


I really can't believe this cop friend exist. I think you are a rookie cop, playing on both sides of the law.

You would not be the first.

Do you know how many cops are collecting money and services from AMP's? It would shock you. Go ask your SGT friend.

Aloha,
BB808

Jay Ess10
06-15-09, 20:42
She's one of the laptop users and is probably saying "challasso" right now :).

Probably differentiating us, too, he-he!Han guk in?

Dan1388
06-15-09, 21:36
I really can't believe this cop friend exist. I think you are a rookie cop, playing on both sides of the law.

You would not be the first.

Do you know how many cops are collecting money and services from AMP's? It would shock you. Go ask your SGT friend.

Aloha,
BB808I could really care less what you think, sorry to burst your bubble.

Plate Lunch
06-15-09, 22:12
Wed night my friend and I went to VIP. I got Kitty, looks kind of like Shikira the singer if you know who that is. Very pretty caucasian looking but is hispanic. She entered the room, asked for money first (yes I know thats bad but I fell for it) I laid on my back and she tells me to flip with a big sigh like I'm inconveniencing her, so I flip and she puts on the rubber and starts the BJ, and I tell her "oh you're just going to start like that? " and she replies "yeah thats what I get paid to do". So I tell her to get off and I get dressed, she tells me I can complain to mama which I did. I tell mama what happened and Kitty tells the mama that I already fucked her which is a lie. I didn't even touch her. The mama basically says she can't so anything and I can't get any of my $ back. Kitty was a ***** to begin with and may have been one of the worst I've ever had. She had the caucasian attitude of providing horrible service. I'm out $2 and was nearly going to star a scene, but just left. Seriously avoid Kitty at VIP.Sorry Dan, I've experienced Kitty, but experience was much more pleasant. I paid her upfront too though because she was super hot and I really wanted to fuck her. I thought she was a real sweetheart. You must have got her on a really bad night.

H Mobius
06-16-09, 01:05
Han guk in?

Sorry don't know that one :) "Am I a Korean person" ?

Btw I forgot to mention FWIW that I am certain she said her name is Yuki, rather than Yuri.

H Mobius
06-16-09, 01:11
I could really care less what you think, sorry to burst your bubble.

I remember a friend who many years ago told me about someone who had a cop friend who would let him know when they were going to raid the AMP he frequented, "so he no go". Long ago, this was; just came to mind.

Moki400
06-16-09, 01:26
Sorry Dan, I've experienced Kitty, but experience was much more pleasant. I paid her upfront too though because she was super hot and I really wanted to fuck her. I thought she was a real sweetheart. You must have got her on a really bad night. A royal Fuck to all these girls. They all don't know a jack fuck to pleasure us local guys.

Dan1388
06-16-09, 21:10
Sorry Dan, I've experienced Kitty, but experience was much more pleasant. I paid her upfront too though because she was super hot and I really wanted to fuck her. I thought she was a real sweetheart. You must have got her on a really bad night.I guess that can be expected from someone who has been in the business as long as she has. She is attractive, and Im sure she can provide good service, Im just not going to risk paying up front for her and gamble with my $. Just wanted to let guys know what they may receive if they end up with her. glad you got you $ worth!

Jay Ess10
06-16-09, 21:41
Sorry don't know that one :) "Am I a Korean person" ?
Yup. Guess you're not then?

Ck813
06-17-09, 20:43
Greetings Mr. Biggins,

No hard feelings at all. I just feel that providers are people too and they have all the rights that you and I have. I 100% understand where you are coming from as I have been mistreated by providers many times and vow that it will never happen again but it does. I totally agree with you that we should be able to fuck the living shit out of these providers as long as they never use the word NO or STOP.

I have had very bad experiences with some providers and I either get my money back somehow. If I have to go up and up with their protector I will. I have done it before and sadly to say they always pull a gun. They never want to go one on one because they cannot scrap. We brothers need to come up with the ultimate way to stop these ROBS as I guess they are called. If any time you need help. I will gladly stand by your side and scrap with their protector.

Take care and wish you only the best Mr. Biggins


Thanks for the vote of confidence, Steve.

Ck813 -
My post was not meant to be derogatory in anyway. I did not hope that anyone perceived it in such a way, however judging by your post, I trust you did.
My gripe, and I admit that it was MY OWN FAULT, was that I assumed a certain provider would give good service and as a result, I paid her tip before the deed was done. Once the deed commenced, I got one of the WORST service in my life. So I decided to fuck with her to make her work for that 150. I kept making her do different positions to delay my nut, until the whole hour was up. That's basically what I was implying/trying to say. I regret you took my previous statement into a wrong position, however I was just stating facts about one of the ROBS in my life, and how I would not let it happen to me again. If any of the 'reg provs' I visit shall do the same to me (since I pay them upfront because I'm a regular 'john'), I will make them 'earn' their scripts, was what I was trying to say. I apologize on my end for not being thorough with the whole experience and (personal) aftermath realization.
Hope this clears up any misconception regarding my post. I do NOT condone 'rape' in anyway, as you have interpreted from my post (remember, I pre paid that bukyak (c**t) before services were rendered). Understand that, and I think we can go on by forgetting this unfortunate misunderstanding. Hell, I enjoy reading your reports, so IMO, I think it'd be a waste to burn bridges here.
I look forward to your reply by post/PM.
Peace.

Tyrone Biggins
06-28-09, 09:08
Greetings Mr. Biggins,

No hard feelings at all. I just feel that providers are people too and they have all the rights that you and I have. I 100% understand where you are coming from as I have been mistreated by providers many times and vow that it will never happen again but it does. I totally agree with you that we should be able to fuck the living shit out of these providers as long as they never use the word NO or STOP.

I have had very bad experiences with some providers and I either get my money back somehow. If I have to go up and up with their protector I will. I have done it before and sadly to say they always pull a gun. They never want to go one on one because they cannot scrap. We brothers need to come up with the ultimate way to stop these ROBS as I guess they are called. If any time you need help. I will gladly stand by your side and scrap with their protector.

Take care and wish you only the best Mr. Biggins
Hey, thanks for the 'clear up'. I guess we come from somewhat the same experiences.
Just one thing that I want to get out of the way.. She never told me, "No", or "Stop". She asked me (and I quote), "How much longer?!", so I kept on "pounding her" to get the hour worth! - However, that statement (IMO) told me that I couldn't get a refund even if I tried, as it was after the deal had commenced, which is why I did what I did (I prepaid the hour).

Providers are people, and I respect people. Hell, I've worked in cust svc, finance and real estate, so I think I know how to treat people on both sides of the transaction, so to speak.

Now, in terms of how you speak of providers' 'pimps'/'protectors', I feel the SAME!

My story. A little long, however bear with me, please.

I've never posted this story, however one night back in '07, I went to see my girl, 'Happy'. I swear that I was in the room for almost 2hrs. My boys came back to the MP an hour after they dropped me off and they were asking where I was. Mama and the girls (in the lobby) told them that, "They didn't know. He must've left already")
Long story short, they found out I was still in the room with the provider. And a haole punk (probably was one of the girl's pimp and tried to act 'hard') in the lobby started to threaten my boys and made as if he was going to pull out a piece from his pants, although they realized that it was just hand motions and shit talking.
They told him to fuck himself and not too long later I came out of the room. Things were settled. That 'wannabe' pimp shut the fuck up when I came out 'cause he was only going along with the motions with the other girls in the lobby. He couldn't do anything to us 'cause the mama would've probably kicked him out.
True story. Pine Tree AMP Jan 05, 2007.

Moki400
07-11-09, 07:15
Here is news guys, stay away from topfloor on king st. I checked this place out, called first. A girl name Tomie answered. She said come over, but on my way down she called me. She must have screen my number, She told me "customer just came in, I call you later" which never happen. Wasted time!

Stay away from this place. She has guys that she only knows. F her! Stay away from this F in place.

Stevet09
07-11-09, 22:55
Here is news guys, stay away from topfloor on king st. I checked this place out, called first. A girl name Tomie answered. She said come over, but on my way down she called me. She must have screen my number, She told me "customer just came in, I call you later" which never happen. Wasted time!

Stay away from this place. She has guys that she only knows. F her! Stay away from this F in place.

Is that the only thing that happened? This is a pretty harsh report IMHO, for only what you describe. If there's more to it than that, what else happened?

Cosmic Kid
08-03-09, 00:44
I don't agree with Steve09 about writing off Top Floor just because of encountering one junk provider there. I've had some nice experiences with Sue at Top Floor, fourties I guess, L6.5 S7.5 A9.5. Attitude counts a lot with me, what can I say? If the lady is not friendly, patient and supportive, everything else is a downer.

Which leads into a recent rotten experience at Pine Tree.. Stay away from Chi Kung , I think that was her name, Korean, 30s maybe. Impatient *****. No massage at all, starts right in with mish. After less than a half hour she got frustrated with changing positions, said as much, and actually pushed me down in the bed and started in on a handjob! By then I was so turned off by her cold vibes that I just went with it to get away from her. Total ripoff. L7 S2 A-3

Stevet09
08-03-09, 19:06
I don't agree with Steve09 about writing off Top Floor just because of encountering one junk provider there. I've had some nice experiences with Sue at Top Floor, fourties I guess, L6.5 S7.5 A9.5. Attitude counts a lot with me, what can I say? If the lady is not friendly, patient and supportive, everything else is a downer.

Which leads into a recent rotten experience at Pine Tree.. Stay away from Chi Kung , I think that was her name, Korean, 30s maybe. Impatient *****. No massage at all, starts right in with mish. After less than a half hour she got frustrated with changing positions, said as much, and actually pushed me down in the bed and started in on a handjob! By then I was so turned off by her cold vibes that I just went with it to get away from her. Total ripoff. L7 S2 A-3

Hey if you DON'T agree with me, I have no problem with that. BUT, try not to get mixed up and say something that is completely opposite of your opening statement. Not only is it confusing, it's crazy to try to understand . I guess in the end, you DO AGREE with me, that the original quoted post I was replying to was a bit harsh.
Anyway, I will step aside to more important issues.

Liampark808
08-05-09, 09:08
I don't agree with Steve09 about writing off Top Floor just because of encountering one junk provider there.


Here is news guys, stay away from topfloor on king st. I checked this place out, called first. A girl name Tomie answered. She said come over, but on my way down she called me. She must have screen my number, She told me "customer just came in, I call you later" which never happen. Wasted time!

Stay away from this place. She has guys that she only knows. F her! Stay away from this F in place.Brother Cosmic,

I think you got Brother Steve09's post mixed up with Moki400's post.

He actually agrees with you.

Sancho2063
08-08-09, 14:36
Brother Cosmic,

I think you got Brother Steve09's post mixed up with Moki400's post.

He actually agrees with you.I also agree with you guys. Top Floor is my Home Base! Tomiko is the Bomb. I get great service there and usually go over the hour because Tomiko luvs to spoon and talk story afterward. If I was in my 20's and would get hard again instantly I know she would let me go again but I take a long time to cum because I want to enjoy every minute of it. She does BBBJDT and likes DATY, RIMM and CFS. She is a MILF I never asked but I guess late 30's nice slim natural body. Sorry to hear about the bad service but she called you and told you someone showed up IMHO that itself speaks volumes. I always call first (any AMP I go to) for the same reason and let them know I am a few minutes away. Try Again tell her what happened I guarantee she will make up you.

Ck813
08-12-09, 16:33
OK, that was not very inconsiderate of MS but shit happens. Give this place another chance explain to the MS what happened and hopefully you get a discount or something. This type of incident happens all the time. Try it again.


Here is news guys, stay away from topfloor on king st. I checked this place out, called first. A girl name Tomie answered. She said come over, but on my way down she called me. She must have screen my number, She told me "customer just came in, I call you later" which never happen. Wasted time!

Stay away from this place. She has guys that she only knows. F her! Stay away from this F in place.

Captin Crunch
01-28-10, 07:00
Would anyone like to keep and add to a list of names and places of KBGs to stay away from? Imagine walking into a bar and if asked if you know anyone there. You ask for the ROB and when she comes, you tell her "Wrong Girl". That would piss her off. We need a list of names and places of the girls to stay away from.

Ducky007
01-28-10, 17:05
A royal Fuck to all these girls. They all don't know a jack fuck to pleasure us local guys.I'm a haole and I feel the same way! I like the local chicks and all the shades K-thai-Jand see even the fine black ones every now and then. But if you paid me I wouldn't do a white c**t with hugo's di*k, sorry Hugo.

Ducky

Hugo Stiglitz
02-03-10, 04:42
I'm a haole and I feel the same way! I like the local chicks and all the shades K-thai-Jand see even the fine black ones every now and then. But if you paid me I wouldn't do a white c**t with hugo's di*k, sorry Hugo.

DuckyThe f**k is that supposed to mean?

Condor Man
02-03-10, 17:24
Stay away from this chick at RM on Ward. I don't know her name because she just mumbled when I asked. Mama said "just ask her for her name". I think it's because she doesn't want the word to spread how bad her service is. She used to go by Cherry at Ichiban about a year ago. 4' 10", 95lbs. Black hair, no tits whatsoever, just dark eraser nips. Super petite. Bet a lot of you know who no right?

Went there looking for Apple, everyone busy! Got the girl who takes the "spill over". Should have walked with first glance of her attitude. All kinds of rules, bad odor, bad breath/teeth. Dead fish experience.

I should have just opened my window on the H-1 and just thrown out my $$.

Memahu
02-04-10, 04:02
Stay away from this chick at RM on Ward. I don't know her name because she just mumbled when I asked. Mama said "just ask her for her name". I think it's because she doesn't want the word to spread how bad her service is. She used to go by Cherry at Ichiban about a year ago. 4' 10", 95lbs. Black hair, no tits whatsoever, just dark eraser nips. Super petite. Bet a lot of you know who no right?

That's surprising. There were a few posters asking for her after she left Ichiban. I think she might have gone to Sakura after. The competition is tough there with the young providers.

Kpounda
02-04-10, 22:45
That's surprising. There were a few posters asking for her after she left Ichiban. I think she might have gone to Sakura after. The competition is tough there with the young providers.
I don't think that she is the famous Cherry from Sakura/Lavender. I remember her at Ichiban, she is a really tiny girl, like Hana. She wasn't all that bad but nothing like THE famous Cherry, I could be wrong but.
Sorry you had one bad time bro.

Condor Man
02-05-10, 01:38
I don't think that she is the famous Cherry from Sakura/Lavender. I remember her at Ichiban, she is a really tiny girl, like Hana. She wasn't all that bad but nothing like THE famous Cherry, I could be wrong but.
Sorry you had one bad time bro.Yeah, don't think she was at sakura/Lavender. She was definately at Ichiban for a while. Got bounced from there and was talking sh$t about Kelly and Hana. Was rolling my eyes, I knew better. She's super tiny, no tits whatsoever.

Stoner R
02-05-10, 02:40
Had this 'new' girl recently. Okay looks, little of the 'thick' side. Doesn't allow anything! (no dining at the y, lite kissing, etc.) also, weak massage and lousy attitude.

Lowly
02-05-10, 05:24
Stay away from this chick at RM on Ward. I don't know her name because she just mumbled when I asked. Mama said "just ask her for her name". I think it's because she doesn't want the word to spread how bad her service is. She used to go by Cherry at Ichiban about a year ago. 4' 10", 95lbs. Black hair, no tits whatsoever, just dark eraser nips. Super petite. Bet a lot of you know who no right?

Went there looking for Apple, everyone busy! Got the girl who takes the "spill over". Should have walked with first glance of her attitude. All kinds of rules, bad odor, bad breath/teeth. Dead fish experience.

I should have just opened my window on the H-1 and just thrown out my $$.
I think you are talking about Miso, she doesn't allow tit sucking and daty, smells like cigarette with a hurry up atitude and the reason mama said ask her for name is because they change names often there imo because they don't like being reviewed so they try and throw us off as to who we are talking about. And I agree with you I would not repeat!

Duce1
02-09-10, 22:41
Momo is skinny 5'5" Japanese girl at VIP. Nice looking, natural brests, good attitude.

No DATY, kissing, touching, etc.

After covered BJ, I asked if I could touch her, she politely said no.

Tried to negotiate for a few minutes with no success.

First time this ever happened.

Cut my loss at. 5 for house and. 5 for provider total $ and left.

No hard feelings next time will stay with Million or Jackie.

K Designs
02-11-10, 02:17
I've never tried her so I can't comment from personal experience. However, everytime a friend is in town, I have to take him to VIP to see Momo. Will have to ask him why he always wants to go there.

H Mobius
08-03-11, 09:10
You guys remember her from D' Amour, right? So she's been at Splash for a while now. She appeared to be very drunk and I observed her yell at a customer "what the FUCK!". Apparently she went and got herself a drink without asking and was demanding payment, but of course he didn't want to. She was quite confrontational and it culminated in the 'WTF'. The waiter came and had to pull her away.

I stopped sitting with her over a year ago for different reasons but I feel that this kind of extreme behavior (which I haven't seen in many years) needs to be exposed, even though there may be many other customers who enjoy her company.

Yelling at a customer whilst trying to ROB him is a very serious offense IMHO and a foolish thing to do; she might have struck him or driven him to snap and one never knows how a guy off-the-street will react whether drunk or sober.

I hope the next guy she propositions will turn out to be LE.

Kapakahi
08-03-11, 14:23
Can't agree with you more about Lina from Splash, HM. Any KBG who acts in a similar manner gets what they deserve one day so best to stay away; only trouble and makes the beer taste sour.

Have had that "just bring the neko; no need ask" tactic done to me in the past and it's very distasteful, to say the least, especially seeing their cocky, sassy faces.

Crazy Glu
08-03-11, 19:52
I'm pretty sure that both KBG & VBG alike do the same BS. Oh I got the drink already I can't return it. Come on last one I promise.

Talking about they got to be careful to, my friend whom has never been to KB / VB. He wanted to go out with the boys since his SO was out of town. We get to a VB & one of them starts their routine of getting a drink, he tells them that he didn't order that & that he's sorry for the miscommunication, she then starts yelling at my friend telling him that he MUST pay for it! My friend then stands up throws the table (with all our beers on it = ( ) into the path where everbody walks (good thing nobody got hit) he tells her yeah who going to make me! You! Mind you my friend is like 280lbs, built like a house and has maybe 15% body fat. 5'11" I don't think anyone would like to mess around with this huge bro! I think if it wasnt for us the place would've gotten trashed.
Anyway his SO since returned & he's Happy again... Whew =)

CG

Johnny14
08-04-11, 02:37
Can't agree with you more about Lina from Splash, HM. Any KBG who acts in a similar manner gets what they deserve one day so best to stay away; only trouble and makes the beer taste sour.

Have had that "just bring the neko; no need ask" tactic done to me in the past and it's very distasteful, to say the least, especially seeing their cocky, sassy faces.Hey guys, if you get sh$t service, do what my friend does. He whips out jr and piss in the booth, on the carpet. The next couple of days that place stinks like hell! Just make sure you don't keep your feet on the floor or dig out.

H Mobius
08-04-11, 03:52
I'm pretty sure that both KBG & VBG alike do the same BS. Oh I got the drink already I can't return it. Come on last one I promise.

CGYup. Used to happen to me as well. What made Lina's one different for me was her yelling, using the F-word and being confrontational. Those three in combination are what prompted me to post.

Stay safe everyone.

Uki Eater
08-04-11, 04:10
I'm pretty sure that both KBG & VBG alike do the same BS. Oh I got the drink already I can't return it. Come on last one I promise.

Talking about they got to be careful to, my friend whom has never been to KB / VB. He wanted to go out with the boys since his SO was out of town. We get to a VB & one of them starts their routine of getting a drink, he tells them that he didn't order that & that he's sorry for the miscommunication, she then starts yelling at my friend telling him that he MUST pay for it! My friend then stands up throws the table (with all our beers on it = (into the path where everbody walks (good thing nobody got hit) he tells her yeah who going to make me! You! Mind you my friend is like 280lbs, built like a house and has maybe 15% body fat. 5'11" I don't think anyone would like to mess around with this huge bro! I think if it wasnt for us the place would've gotten trashed.

Anyway his SO since returned & he's Happy again. Whew =)

CGFuckem. Don't pay for the drinks if you didn't agree to buy. These BGs I tell you, even if you say last one and you're about to leave, they'll just help themselves anyway. I don't blame some of my friends or other people not wanting to go these hostessbars because of things like this. No real benefit for the price you spending. It just validates and confirms it on how they don't give a damn. Messed up yah? Tell a BG nicely, they don't listen and take you seriously that you got to snap and tell them off for them to listen and get the message. They want to push your buttons and see how far they can go.

Head Lock
08-04-11, 09:38
Fuckem. Don't pay for the drinks if you didn't agree to buy. These BGs I tell you, even if you say last one and you're about to leave, they'll just help themselves anyway. I don't blame some of my friends or other people not wanting to go these hostessbars because of things like this. No real benefit for the price you spending. It just validates and confirms it on how they don't give a damn. Messed up yah? Tell a BG nicely, they don't listen and take you seriously that you got to snap and tell them off for them to listen and get the message. They want to push your buttons and see how far they can go.Awesome advice. I have posted how I walked when unsolicited drinks were delivered. If you put up with this behavior, it is a positive reward for that behavior and perpetuates it.

Blade82
08-04-11, 14:15
Fuckem. Don't pay for the drinks if you didn't agree to buy. These BGs I tell you, even if you say last one and you're about to leave, they'll just help themselves anyway. I don't blame some of my friends or other people not wanting to go these hostessbars because of things like this. No real benefit for the price you spending. It just validates and confirms it on how they don't give a damn. Messed up yah? Tell a BG nicely, they don't listen and take you seriously that you got to snap and tell them off for them to listen and get the message. They want to push your buttons and see how far they can go.The worse scenario is when you are with friends who is treating you. A BG pushes, you say no, but comes back with a drink then your friend agrees to pay for it.

Shavnluvr
08-04-11, 16:33
Just posted this in the Backpage forum, but this chick is just wacko. Everyone here should be well informed about this runt from Texas. She's not even tall enough to be called short. Which is probably why they don't want her back in Texas.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7513-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=1250088&viewfull=1#post1250088

Uki Eater
08-05-11, 02:14
The worse scenario is when you are with friends who is treating you. A BG pushes, you say no, but comes back with a drink then your friend agrees to pay for it.Yup. Unfortunately, there will be times when you're with friends and although you may turn her down, she'll just jump on your other friend (s) until 1 of them pays for her drink. Some BGs like to put the guilt trip on you if you don't buy her a drink and your friend did. She'll say: "What about you? Are you going to buy me a drink? Your friend did, why not you?" They like to make you feel guilty and even scold you to intimidate you into giving in and make you feel shame. Hehe. Fuckem! LOL For what need to feel shame and guilty for? Don't want to buy a BG drink, don't buy a BG a drink. Simple as that. Show them you the boss. Why have these FOB BGs or BGs from the mainland intimidate or boss you around? Unless, she gets playful and touchy touchy then maybe. If not, no sense to buy simply because of guilt. Why is it that most guys have to always feel guilty into buying a BG a drink? Frankly, these BGs don't feel the least bit guilty when they take advantage of the customers.

Joe Som
08-07-11, 08:45
Tried Arielle from Eros. Listed as massage and Tantra. Wanted to try something different. $425 for 90 mins. What was I thinking? Second tantra experience. Neither was good, so never doing that again. Anyways, pic might be her, but she does not look like that anymore. Added poundage. She advertises as 30, but she's 38. Kinda a big difference. No massage whatsoever. Did some breathing and other spiritual stuff. She did a topless HJ with panty on. Pretty good, but not worth $425.

Captin Crunch
06-30-12, 15:49
We know and share info on the "good" girls, but I would like to know of girls not to sit with (kb) or go to see (AMP). You have the power to make or break a girl in her line of business. Girls better give better service. List the name of the losers.

Ocolumbo
06-30-12, 16:39
We know and share info on the "good" girls, but I would like to know of girls not to sit with (kb) or go to see (AMP). You have the power to make or break a girl in her line of business. Girls better give better service. List the name of the losers.The negative vibes coming from you makes you a real winner.

Oldee
06-30-12, 19:17
We know and share info on the "good" girls, but I would like to know of girls not to sit with (kb) or go to see (AMP). You have the power to make or break a girl in her line of business. Girls better give better service. List the name of the losers.Thats why I always say choose wisely. Unfortunately, I suck at remembering names as you know. What was the name of the one I was going play with last night? LOL. BTW, I would say EVERY camelot girl are not worth it. Either no play or too little play for too much money. Add to that shitty attitudes so stupid if you buy neko there.

H Mobius
08-21-12, 00:07
Tried there since it's been a long time.

A Chinese girl who I KNOW I saw before but couldn't place answered the door and took me to the room. All I remembered was she was sheddy, be it in a KB or MT place, so I immediately asked if there was anyone else and she said there are two.

But then she stuck around and I kept asking to see these other girls, but it was like she was feigning deafness or no understanding; she just stood there with a mindless smile on her face.

I was about to leave but asked one last time and finally she went and got this little young girl with nice boobs, who looked at me and went "HAUGH!" like I was The Mummy or something, and ran back into the girl's area. Said 'fuk it' and left. I didn't get a good look at her because it was so fast, but I think she was Korean and kind of young.

Neither girl was really remarkable (the Chinese girl looked like a real scrub) and I'm sure the ones the guys are reporting on are way higher quality than both of these combined.

Noticed the place wasn't as nice as when it was Luxury Ocean, either.

I take it the gambling place is still going, because the criminal element was out in force under the stairs; they probably didn't attack only because they figured I already spent my $$.

IMO, nothing good about this business; I'm done with them.

Avoid this place, or partake at one's own risk.

H M

JoeKher
08-21-12, 02:16
Tried there since it's been a long time.

A Chinese girl who I KNOW I saw before but couldn't place answered the door and took me to the room. All I remembered was she was sheddy, be it in a KB or MT place, so I immediately asked if there was anyone else and she said there are two.

But then she stuck around and I kept asking to see these other girls, but it was like she was feigning deafness or no understanding; she just stood there with a mindless smile on her face.

I was about to leave but asked one last time and finally she went and got this little young girl with nice boobs, who looked at me and went "HAUGH!" like I was The Mummy or something, and ran back into the girl's area. Said 'fuk it' and left. I didn't get a good look at her because it was so fast, but I think she was Korean and kind of young.

Neither girl was really remarkable (the Chinese girl looked like a real scrub) and I'm sure the ones the guys are reporting on are way higher quality than both of these combined.

Noticed the place wasn't as nice as when it was Luxury Ocean, either.

I take it the gambling place is still going, because the criminal element was out in force under the stairs; they probably didn't attack only because they figured I already spent my $$.

IMO, nothing good about this business; I'm done with them.

Avoid this place, or partake at one's own risk.

H Mgoing to give it a scout just to see this little young girl with nice boobs. Hopefully she don't go running away from me also like I'm death.

YG365
08-21-12, 02:30
Thats why I always say choose wisely. Unfortunately, I suck at remembering names as you know. What was the name of the one I was going play with last night? LOL. BTW, I would say EVERY camelot girl are not worth it. Either no play or too little play for too much money. Add to that shitty attitudes so stupid if you buy neko there.LOL. I'm pretty young and I have the same problem! I remember alot of faces but I just can't remember if I got good or bad service. So I tend to boot some of the good providers and let the bad ones back in for a repeat performance! Talk about getting old while still pretty young! LOL

Chexx05
08-21-12, 18:04
This chick tried to charge $$$$ haggling me when her rates are posted. Way too ghetto, clearly she hangs around black people. (not racisit but she'd be way more attractive without the ghetto accent). Attitude and not the best body for it. Lame. Saw her walking waikiki in the daytime trashy not classy.

mzdiamondwilson. Weebly. Com

H Mobius
05-09-13, 03:50
http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/not-just-a-peaceful-place-the-best-place-25/3304997

Was going to post in the BP thread but decided to come here instead, as I find this lady and her methods unsatisfactory.

I went and it turned out to be the same 40+ lady as the last time who tried to service me but went and took another customer midway through the session, during mish.

I made an appointment and when I got there on time, she had me wait while she called-in an L=4 girl ("Wendy"), who she gave to another guy who came right after me. I did not want to waste time and left (I should have left as soon as I saw it was the same lady who answered the door), whilst she insisted another "Wendy" was on her way.

The lady who answered the door looks just like Vicky from Amana Street but older, with bigger jugs. I suppose she's useful as a quick hard bang if you want a short (maybe about 4' 8") little lady, but otherwise I'd avoid this place.

For brevity and simplicity I have omitted some of the drama and shenanigans that actually went down.

Opahs
05-16-13, 15:14
The worse scenario is when you are with friends who is treating you. A BG pushes, you say no, but comes back with a drink then your friend agrees to pay for it.They only want our money. They are the best actors, & smart how to manipulate guys.

DickTracy25
02-17-14, 19:45
I had a session with Monica at Kison about a year ago, first impression of her she definitely look over 50's (before her face job), she came in the room with a cup in her hand, I thought she has coffee in it so I did not bother to ask. Massage on body was excellent, it feels good, 10 minutes into the massage she took a big zip from the cup and start aiming at JR. I freaked out and ask her what is going on? She said it is a little game that she plays, I said oh.no.no, please don't, I told her I am not here for that. Water sport is a turn off for me so I told her I am here just for a massage. So she gave me another 10 minutes of massage and called it quit. As I walked out after spend a total of 20 minutes in the room. Sexy Mama Chanel asked me how was the session goes, I shook my head, Chanel said you come back next time to try different girl, I said OK. Sorry Monica fans, I am just not into these crazy water sport.

Mama Candy from Asia Spa. It's definitely more miscible than fun to be with her. She really has some moods swing, and when it's bad, you want to be out of there as soon as possible. For a 50 plus lady she looks pretty good, but her session is just terrible, her actual time in the room I say at best is no more than 30 minutes, her action is just too mechanical and boring. She once threw my BVD at me and said it is time up. I looked at my watch, the session was lasted only 25 minutes.

Now brothers, I hear lots of good sessions, lets hear some bad ones.

MassageKing22
03-06-14, 20:00
Will not ever go back with scarlet who posts under body rubs on BP. Absolute rip off and she was terrible at massage! Worst experience ever.

MK.

SlappinBellies
03-09-14, 08:05
Will not ever go back with scarlet who posts under body rubs on BP. Absolute rip off and she was terrible at massage! Worst experience ever.

MK.Little more detail please as to why it was a bad experience.

MassageKing22
03-11-14, 17:23
Little more detail please as to why it was a bad experience.Firstly she was late. By an hour. Second is she looked nothing like the photos. Much skinnier (like too skinny) and her hair was a bad kind of blonde color unlike her pics. She promotes a bikini massage and she doesn't look good in a bikini so you're paying way too much just for that in itself. Then her massage was soft and she really didn't make it feel good. Was all over the place going back forth etc etc. Then on flip she didn't massage my legs at all and started giving a jackhammer HJ. I like to have a massage where I'm slowly aroused not from 0-100! She finished me with maybe 15-20 minutes left and just got up changed and asked for the $175 or $180 whatever it was which was way too much obviously but was obliged. She then stood there like I was meant to give her more and I didn't want to and she got all pissed and stormed out.

Not worth it AT ALL.

MK.

SlappinBellies
03-12-14, 00:35
Firstly she was late. By an hour. Second is she looked nothing like the photos. Much skinnier (like too skinny) and her hair was a bad kind of blonde color unlike her pics. She promotes a bikini massage and she doesn't look good in a bikini so you're paying way too much just for that in itself. Then her massage was soft and she really didn't make it feel good. Was all over the place going back forth etc etc. Then on flip she didn't massage my legs at all and started giving a jackhammer HJ. I like to have a massage where I'm slowly aroused not from 0-100! She finished me with maybe 15-20 minutes left and just got up changed and asked for the $175 or $180 whatever it was which was way too much obviously but was obliged. She then stood there like I was meant to give her more and I didn't want to and she got all pissed and stormed out.

Not worth it AT ALL.

MK.Yep. Very convincing. Thanks, I'll stay away...far away.

Hornysamowen
08-03-14, 09:26
Total rob and SW attitude will up sell, suggestion to avoid her, there are way better providers out there.

Elbicho1
08-03-14, 17:57
Total rob and SW attitude will up sell, suggestion to avoid her, there are way better providers out there.Didn't you read all the negative reports about her. You lucky she didn't take your money and ran with it, like the other braddahs reported.

MidgetMac87
08-04-14, 00:27
Ruby from Tokyo Spa. Hot yes, but she said she only wants 20 minutes of pounding and just wants to give a HJ after. Subpar BJ skills and a crappy table shower. Overall a waste of money and time. PM if more details for WHY NOT!