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DT Looker
03-06-08, 10:50
I was lurking on the other areas of the forums and something had just occurred to me. Looking at places like Cali, Oregon, and Washington I noticed that our prices are kinda high.

The Waikiki SW girls seems to be around or actually OVER the prices of the escort services in the States. While the DT/Longs girls actually for an equivalent look to be around double the prices of the 'normal' girls up there. The dregs we see also in DT are also double the price. Seems like they can get full service car dates for around .30 and go back to a notel (granted we don't have them right here) for around .60 - .80 . The pics show that some of them would put the DT/Longs ones to shame.

I was wondering if any of the local bros have been up in the states and seen the diff.

Makana9
03-06-08, 13:38
I was lurking on the other areas of the forums and something had just occurred to me. Looking at places like Cali, Oregon, and Washington I noticed that our prices are kinda high.

The Waikiki SW girls seems to be around or actually OVER the prices of the escort services in the States. While the DT/Longs girls actually for an equivalent look to be around double the prices of the 'normal' girls up there. The dregs we see also in DT are also double the price. Seems like they can get full service car dates for around. 30 and go back to a notel (granted we don't have them right here) for around. 60.. 80. The pics show that some of them would put the DT/Longs ones to shame.

I was wondering if any of the local bros have been up in the states and seen the diff. You are pretty much correct in your invalv. I have mongered esc. , to KB-VB-LB, to SW, PSEs & GFEs

The difference here is like anything else being in Hawaii, everything just costs more, even thought one might think that the svcs. Are not much different. YMMV. I have mongered pretty much in various parts of the US while on Biz (west coast, chicago, florida, NY, and parts of south), as well as the Orient (Taiwan, Hong Kong, parts of Japan, and Korea. I did not like what I saw in Guam)

The menu here is expensive, but as always if you do your homework, trust the bigger head (sometimes the smaller head will prevail though), and to each their own on what they prefer. Part of paradise theory, but as I have seen, it has always been like this here.

Here, we have less caucasian & black, but pretty much have the gambit in Asians. Again, prices has gone up at least 3 to 5 fold. Part of they are providing a service, you are paying for thier service, and sometimes they go on the current rates OR if they want more business (the Sam Walton theory) price comparitive at a lower level to get more bunch business (bulk). Is it better to get GOOD $$$ for 1 to 2 service OR above avg. $$ and do more mongerers. You might get good $$ in the beginning, but in this BIZ, you will definately get old FAST.

You need to take into consideration what they provide? BB like seems to be popular now (BUT it is like playing russian roulette with bullet in every chamber)to feel good NOW and Pay later, YIKES. Had a couple of friends do the QTip in the peepee hole, OUCH. HORROR stories galore.

YMMV no matter, that is why some love KFC while others like Poppeyes, while we will go to Molly's (I am a local Hawaiian) but love the Southern food.

Just enjoy life, before you say to yourself. "I WISH I"

Aloha,

K

DownAndOut
03-06-08, 19:09
I was lurking on the other areas of the forums and something had just occurred to me. Looking at places like Cali, Oregon, and Washington I noticed that our prices are kinda high.

The Waikiki SW girls seems to be around or actually OVER the prices of the escort services in the States. While the DT/Longs girls actually for an equivalent look to be around double the prices of the 'normal' girls up there. The dregs we see also in DT are also double the price. Seems like they can get full service car dates for around .30 and go back to a notel (granted we don't have them right here) for around .60 - .80 . The pics show that some of them would put the DT/Longs ones to shame.

I was wondering if any of the local bros have been up in the states and seen the diff.Well, we all know we're cheaper than Vegas in all categories.

StripedFashion
03-07-08, 00:52
A few months ago, I saw a back and forth dispute on CL regarding the prices here in Hawaii Ne. It was very entertaining, as I wanted to intervene, but my voice is here. Not there. It would've got flagged anyway.

One guy stated (for the sake of argument, lets say "the mainland guy") the obvious about how when providers come through, they bump up the prices to match that already steep $$$+ in the islands. He went on about the isolation of Hawaii being like Alaska, with the fact that our state, like Vegas, is a tourist trap. Add the two=inflation. Being already unhappy with the fare, he went on about us Hawaiians for being stupid for paying these prices. Guess he needed to vent, however he did have a response to his post.

Some other guy, I'm assuming was local, was saying that he don't mind paying out that kind of money to spend time with a beautiful woman. How that other gent should check the Pennysaver for deals and that he was a cheapo. Also if he don't like it, then get the fuck out. There was more (I KNEW I should've saved those posts, oh well) but that was pretty much the main jist of it.

Mainland gent figured he had to get the last say and went on about us being ignorant and how we should get out of Hawaii. You know, get a clue. Something to that extent. I'm sure you all get the idea.

My take on the two is this: Yes, its an arm and a leg sometimes. Yes we get better deals in DT. Some people spend their money on even stupider things. I've spent my paycheck on everything from wax (records) to Star Wars toys, designer jeans all the way to vintage sneakers (ADIDAS, hence the StripedFashion! ). Now I spend it on nan. YES!

In the end, whether we like it or not, it's the only show in town guys. If the prices are what they are, then so fucking be it. I don't see a petition to lower the rates being sent to whomever and whatever anytime soon. You can try to bargain with the girl, but may end up just making things more complicated. YMMV.

Till then, lets work hard, get what we need to taken care of and treat ourselves to something good every now and then. They say spending too much time on one thing is obsessive and unhealthy, and that we should always be spontaneous.

However, there are NO rules stating that we can never have too much fun.

*Raise your glasses

Here's to the the Cheapos, Freak-O's and of course to the Hobby, Gents!

StripedFashion

PS-*High Fives Makana for the Molly's reference. Where my hush puppies at? NICE!

Member #3973
03-07-08, 01:22
Well, we live in Hawaii, and prices are what they are whether you buy rice,
milk or massages - or sex.

Sure you can cheaper service on the mainland. In Tijuana you can even get laid for 20 bucks. It will be about 720 including airfare!

Primal Needs
03-07-08, 05:06
I was lurking on the other areas of the forums and something had just occurred to me. Looking at places like Cali, Oregon, and Washington I noticed that our prices are kinda high.

The Waikiki SW girls seems to be around or actually OVER the prices of the escort services in the States. While the DT/Longs girls actually for an equivalent look to be around double the prices of the 'normal' girls up there. The dregs we see also in DT are also double the price. Seems like they can get full service car dates for around .30 and go back to a notel (granted we don't have them right here) for around .60 - .80 . The pics show that some of them would put the DT/Longs ones to shame.

I was wondering if any of the local bros have been up in the states and seen the diff.

According to an HBO special on hookers, from years ago, the pimps were saying that they can charge more in Hawaii because our tourists can afford it. That would explain the Waikiki SW situation. But I don't know about the AMPs and such.

I say blame the tourists, but really, how can you fault a 5'0 tall, horny old Japanese businessman, who might be having his last chance in life to mount a black chick with a 38DD chest? He won't find much of that in Japan, I presume.

"Sree handred darrah? OK!"
Primal Needs

Aaron Colt
03-07-08, 07:47
According to an HBO special on hookers, from years ago, the pimps were saying that they can charge more in Hawaii because our tourists can afford it. That would explain the Waikiki SW situation. But I don't know about the AMPs and such.

I say blame the tourists, but really, how can you fault a 5'0 tall, horny old Japanese businessman, who might be having his last chance in life to mount a black chick with a 38DD chest? He won't find much of that in Japan, I presume.

"Sree handred darrah? OK!"
Primal Needs

No more so can you blame the 5ft5 aging, ever expanding, bald, chest and back tanned pink, legs brightly white, sexually deprived American blue collar worker who's been married to a Roseanne Barr look a like for the last 15 yrs that may never get a chance to slap bellies with an asian/polynesian beauty. He wont find much of what we got out here in Oklahoma.

Blue Collar worker: Howdy, Maaam!!!

Im fixin for a blow job for $50.

Asian girl: You cheap, go away!!!

VipHawaii
03-07-08, 11:59
If you know how to shop, it's only $300 roundtrip to LAX, $80 for the weekend car rental, $50 for gas to/from TJ. Anyways, getting back to subject.

I think AMP prices is on par with AAMP prices in the mainland. Let's compare:

mainland price / Hawaii price
--------------------------------
40+ old milf $140/hour $150 ($50 house+ $100)
30+ old milf $160/hour $170 ($50 house + $120)
Korean model $200/hour $200 ($50 house + $150)

Streetwalkers in waikiki are naturally ripoffs because they accomodate tourists. But, if you are talking about AMP experience, it's not bad.


Well, we live in Hawaii, and prices are what they are whether you buy rice, milk or massages - or sex.

Sure you can cheaper service on the mainland. In Tijuana you can even get laid for 20 bucks. It will be about 720 including airfare!

Ewa Dave
08-10-08, 09:11
The prices here do seem higher when compared to our sister states. But like Member#3973 stated, everything else is expensive also. I personally don't feel to bad for the mongers considering there are Hawaii-educated kids getting kicked out of their homes at eighteen. Even if they managed to work two minimum wage jobs ($2500/month) they wouldn't have enough cheddar to survive the harsh Hawaiian economy, especially after Uncle Sam and LinLin take their cuts.

Headrest
08-24-08, 14:58
Thailand to the Orange Blossom Trail


I was wondering if any of the local bros have been up in the states and seen the diff.Freelance streetwalkers are pretty much the same.

Kapalua
04-01-09, 17:49
Just wanted to mention that Angel Relaxation (formerly Tokyo Relaxation) has a $10 discount coupon at the bottom of page C-5 of today's Honolulu Advertiser. So any hobbyists planning on visiting the friendly Erica might want to save themselves $10. Hey, with the poor economy, every little bit helps. :)

Mello D
04-02-09, 03:44
Just wanted to mention that Angel Relaxation (formerly Tokyo Relaxation) has a $10 discount coupon at the bottom of page C-5 of today's Honolulu Advertiser. So any hobbyists planning on visiting the friendly Erica might want to save themselves $10. Hey, with the poor economy, every little bit helps. :)Thanks Kap! You are correct.

We should do more about the poor economy issue. Maybe that coupon should be presented to other spas to help drive the prices down. If other spas don't accept it then just walk away. Maybe they will get the hint.

I mentioned the issue with the economy a while ago and maybe now we need to take some action to help the spas/girls understand some new rates that reflect the poor economy. Continuing to pay the 50 + 150 is too much for some mongers and spas know it because their business is slow. (Most) mongers don't want to rip anyone off BUT we want a fair price that everyone can be happy with. Right? So we need to come up with ideas to help drive the price down and business up.

Some of you think you're helping the girls by continuing to pay 150 but you are not helping them. It only makes them feel like they should still be getting 150 in this bad economy. So if guys ask them to accept less money they either say "no" or give poor service because they got less money. Paying for bad service sucks! It's better to stay home and jerk it and save the money.

Why leave the pricing up to spas or the girls? We need to come up with a new price that we (mongers poor and rich) agree is fair. Then come up with a plan. That way the spas get more business and we get good service and everyone is happy.

Mr Chin
04-03-09, 04:34
Thanks Kap! You are correct.

We should do more about the poor economy issue. Maybe that coupon should be presented to other spas to help drive the prices down. If other spas don't accept it then just walk away. Maybe they will get the hint.

I mentioned the issue with the economy a while ago and maybe now we need to take some action to help the spas/girls understand some new rates that reflect the poor economy. Continuing to pay the 50 + 150 is too much for some mongers and spas know it because their business is slow. (Most) mongers don't want to rip anyone off BUT we want a fair price that everyone can be happy with. Right? So we need to come up with ideas to help drive the price down and business up.

Some of you think you're helping the girls by continuing to pay 150 but you are not helping them. It only makes them feel like they should still be getting 150 in this bad economy. So if guys ask them to accept less money they either say "no" or give poor service because they got less money. Paying for bad service sucks! It's better to stay home and jerk it and save the money.

Why leave the pricing up to spas or the girls? We need to come up with a new price that we (mongers poor and rich) agree is fair. Then come up with a plan. That way the spas get more business and we get good service and everyone is happy.

A couple things:
Lately most of the good places are not slow, in fact they seem busier than they used to be. So that doesn't help our case, but what hurts even more are the people who are tipping the extra 30-50 dollars and sometimes even more.
That makes them feel like they should raise the price.
I can understand that guys want to reward excellent service or try to get extra perks and that's fine, however it doesn't mean you have to lay $$.5 every time you go. That is why some providers won't give good service or ask for the tip upfront, because they get spoiled and it ends up hurting all of us IMHO.
I think we should only tip extra if we get something extra ie: BBBJ, an extra pop or a trip to Greece.
Just my 2 cents.
Peace

Niner Whiner
04-03-09, 05:33
Thanks Kap! You are correct.

We should do more about the poor economy issue. Maybe that coupon should be presented to other spas to help drive the prices down. If other spas don't accept it then just walk away. Maybe they will get the hint.

I mentioned the issue with the economy a while ago and maybe now we need to take some action to help the spas/girls understand some new rates that reflect the poor economy. Continuing to pay the 50 + 150 is too much for some mongers and spas know it because their business is slow. (Most) mongers don't want to rip anyone off BUT we want a fair price that everyone can be happy with. Right? So we need to come up with ideas to help drive the price down and business up.

Some of you think you're helping the girls by continuing to pay 150 but you are not helping them. It only makes them feel like they should still be getting 150 in this bad economy. So if guys ask them to accept less money they either say "no" or give poor service because they got less money. Paying for bad service sucks! It's better to stay home and jerk it and save the money.

Why leave the pricing up to spas or the girls? We need to come up with a new price that we (mongers poor and rich) agree is fair. Then come up with a plan. That way the spas get more business and we get good service and everyone is happy.The problem with this is that SWs, AMP providers, escorts, kbar, and vbar girls all go where the money is. If business gets super slow here, they just head to LA, OC, Vegas, or NY to go work. They just prefer Hawaii because they work less and make just as much, if not more, than on the mainland.

And if all the top girls leave. All that's left for mongers are the housewives, ajimas, fatties, uglies, fuglies, FOBs, and ROBs.

Mello D
04-03-09, 14:25
A couple things:

Lately most of the good places are not slow, in fact they seem busier than they used to be. So that doesn't help our case, but what hurts even more are the people who are tipping the extra 30-50 dollars and sometimes even more.

That makes them feel like they should raise the price.

I can understand that guys want to reward excellent service or try to get extra perks and that's fine, however it doesn't mean you have to lay $$.5 every time you go. That is why some providers won't give good service or ask for the tip upfront, because they get spoiled and it ends up hurting all of us IMHO.

I think we should only tip extra if we get something extra ie: BBBJ, an extra pop or a trip to Greece.

Just my 2 cents.

PeaceThanks for the feedback. I don't totally agree but that's ok. I don't hate or call people names when they see things a different way. But I DO point out where I disagree and I hope you don't mind.

The idea that "good places" are not slow and "seem" busier is your opinion and I agree GOOD PLACES will always SEEM busy but that is just our opinion. Dig through this forum and you will find people saying they hear places are slow. Maybe those places suck or maybe it is the economy.

I feel we (mongers) are all brothers here and the service providers do not have the best interest of us in mind. EVER! So we need to stick together and quit being such softies to them. That does not mean be disrespectful to them. Pimps and hoes call this "the game" for a reason. LOL

BTW... I think you are 100% correct about tipping.

What you wrote should be listed as one of the Top 10 Rules of Mongering.

"We should only tip extra if we get something extra ie: BBBJ, an extra pop or a trip to Greece."

Sympathy tipping is BS! I hear so many mongers giving up a tip when they didn't get anything worth writing about. They got played in the game. Provider won!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y6oMsroBvU

Mello D
04-03-09, 15:20
The problem with this is that SWs, AMP providers, escorts, kbar, and vbar girls all go where the money is. If business gets super slow here, they just head to LA, OC, Vegas, or NY to go work. They just prefer Hawaii because they work less and make just as much, if not more, than on the mainland.

And if all the top girls leave. All that's left for mongers are the housewives, ajimas, fatties, uglies, fuglies, FOBs, and ROBs.Thanks for your reply Niner Whiner. IMO I don't agree there is EVER going to be a shortage of providers in Hawaii. I don't live in fear like that because I know better. If you want to talk mainland... girls in all those towns make less money and there is no shortage of "top girls". Providers all talk up other towns to keep the prices up. So I don't buy the fear mongering that there is going to be a shortage. There are only a few "top girls" here anyway and IMO they are not THAT great. We should live by what Mr Chan said.


I think we should only tip extra if we get something extra ie: BBBJ, an extra pop or a trip to Greece.If we worked by a system that rewards (tips) "top girls" for the better service they provide everything will be cool. I'm talking about lowering the rates and tipping for better service. Too many mongers buy the BS the girls tell them. They only want your money. They will tell you anything.

"Top girls" in Hawaii are NOT "top girls" in Vegas baby! ;-)

Let's stick together. Peace my brothers!

Buster50
04-03-09, 19:34
The problem with this is that SWs, AMP providers, escorts, kbar, and vbar girls all go where the money is. If business gets super slow here, they just head to LA, OC, Vegas, or NY to go work. They just prefer Hawaii because they work less and make just as much, if not more, than on the mainland.

And if all the top girls leave. All that's left for mongers are the housewives, ajimas, fatties, uglies, fuglies, FOBs, and ROBs.Just heard through the grapevine that a lot of the more popular girls will move elsewhere if business doesn't pick up. And as Niner said, here will be left with the leftovers.

Mello D
04-03-09, 22:32
Just heard through the grapevine that a lot of the more popular girls will move elsewhere if business doesn't pick up. And as Niner said, here will be left with the leftovers.Rumors and fear help keep people obedient.

Nevermind! I never understand why people always resist better prices.

On a different note. A friend just sent me this photo. LOL

Seenum
04-03-09, 23:08
Keep in mind surgeons, test pilots, iron workers, lawyers, deep sea salvage divers, and alaskan crab fisherman etc..... don't get paid $.5 an hour.

Memahu
04-04-09, 03:37
Just heard through the grapevine that a lot of the more popular girls will move elsewhere if business doesn't pick up. And as Niner said, here will be left with the leftovers.
Don't the providers profile customers from the mainland as being more demanding? She got to do a Donna Summer by Working Hard for the Money.

Mr Chin
04-04-09, 05:11
[QUOTE=Mello D]Thanks for the feedback. I don't totally agree but that's ok. I don't hate or call people names when they see things a different way. But I DO point out where I disagree and I hope you don't mind.

The idea that "good places" are not slow and "seem" busier is your opinion and I agree GOOD PLACES will always SEEM busy but that is just our opinion. Dig through this forum and you will find people saying they hear places are slow. Maybe those places suck or maybe it is the economy.

Thank you for the feedback! It's fine to have different takes,that's part of the fun of having a forum.
I'll be a little more specific. Lately I have been going to P10, Vip, Pine Tree and Sakura mostly on FRI or SAT nights, and Hearing the doorbell ringing almost constantly and seeing plenty of Guys hanging around and often waiting for someone to be available. A couple years ago I rarely seen that.
However that being said just last night I visited Sakura and was told they were very slow and I only heard the doorbell ring once in the hour I was there. So maybe it's up and down right now with people saving their money more for the top places on the weekends.
I also agree with you that there is no need to worry about shortage of quality providers here because not all of these women are mobile enough to just pack up and leave to the mainland and even if some do there will always be new talent coming in from Korea because of the need to support their family. I lost count of how many have told me this when I asked why they moved here to work.
Aloha!

Mr Chin
04-04-09, 05:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y6oMsroBvU[/url]

Exactly! There was post in the AMP thread just yesterday where some guy didn't even get mediocre service and still he tipped the the provider an extra .3 WTF! This is not even Sympathy tipping this is stupidity tipping. Yeah let's reward poor service and send them a message that it's ok to treat us like dirt while were paying top dollar. Some people just have too much money for their own good.

Modelsearch10
04-05-09, 01:17
Exactly! There was post in the AMP thread just yesterday where some guy didn't even get mediocre service and still he tipped the the provider an extra .3 WTF! This is not even Sympathy tipping this is stupidity tipping. Yeah let's reward poor service and send them a message that it's ok to treat us like dirt while were paying top dollar. Some people just have too much money for their own good.

NOT EVEN THE BOARD FAVORITE MILLION gets tips from me. Its not that I dont think she deserves it, its just the fact that as others have said that some people with very prestigious jobs dont get paid this well. ($150 an hour)
So unless she starts doing what I said before was my minimum definition of the GFE route then she wont get anything extra because I didnt get anything extra. Tipping for independent providers is even more of a dumb thing. These girls charge what the AMPS charge with house fees and even more sometimes. They dont have as much overhead as AMPS and probably have just as many customers. WHen I mongered back on the mainland I didnt give providers any extra and frankly I dont think they expected any extra.
They charge what they charge and if I feel that they deserve extra for maybe giving me more time or out of this world service then I will do so.

H Mobius
04-05-09, 13:16
7k/day (1 day minimum, she does not go by the hour) for Onna. And you gotta fly her ass via First Class Only.


http://www.eros-hawaii.com/sections/hawaii_escorts.htm

Sancho Z
04-05-09, 14:56
NOT EVEN THE BOARD FAVORITE MILLION gets tips from me. Its not that I dont think she deserves it, its just the fact that as others have said that some people with very prestigious jobs dont get paid this well. ($150 an hour)
So unless she starts doing what I said before was my minimum definition of the GFE route then she wont get anything extra because I didnt get anything extra. Tipping for independent providers is even more of a dumb thing. These girls charge what the AMPS charge with house fees and even more sometimes. They dont have as much overhead as AMPS and probably have just as many customers. WHen I mongered back on the mainland I didnt give providers any extra and frankly I dont think they expected any extra.

They charge what they charge and if I feel that they deserve extra for maybe giving me more time or out of this world service then I will do so.As a relitively new monger I have never felt inclined to tip the MS. On the other hand I have done the "stupid tipping" thing and given a provider someting for their pathetic effort. (Sugi at Hana and some dumb broad at Smile)

Then there are the few times I felt I didnt give enough because I read here that people pay a certain amount. For instance once someone posted they only spent $ total at excel. I went there last week got excellect service then the provider gave me stink eye after I gave her $ .10 "Forty More" she said. I replied, "next time!"
The same thing happened once at Thai Hi, and I didnt even get a HE, I was like "tip for what?"

Finally I just want to ad that one place I frequentt I never pay more then $.5 for full service, extended time, and a very warm welcum when I show up. As someone once posted, become a regular somewhere and you WILL get better service.

Puinsai808
04-05-09, 15:10
They may think they can do better elsewhere but our economy lags the mainland. With the financial crisis, New York is dead. With the housing market, Nevada, Florida, Arizona, California are haddit too. I wonder where they see the greener pastures?

I've scan the photos section and read how much our mainland counter parts pay and none of them are paying over $100 for FS.


Just heard through the grapevine that a lot of the more popular girls will move elsewhere if business doesn't pick up. And as Niner said, here will be left with the leftovers.

Mello D
04-05-09, 17:04
They may think they can do better elsewhere but our economy lags the mainland. With the financial crisis, New York is dead. With the housing market, Nevada, Florida, Arizona, California are haddit too. I wonder where they see the greener pastures?

I've scan the photos section and read how much our mainland counter parts pay and none of them are paying over $100 for FS.The providers here all lie to get the most they can. Don't believe the hype!

The girls in Hawaii are overpaid because guys believe their BS to include that there is going to be a shortage of hoes. Where do they come up with this BS?

Like I said, lets work on this and bring the price down.

Just think how cool it would be if we bring it down to 100 here. There will be more business PLUS having 2 girls at once may end up being more common for some that can afford it! :-)

Here is one idea for new prices in Hawaii.

House Fee = 40
Provider = 100
Tip = 10 for each extra (BBFS, BBBJ, Greece, Salad Toss, Multi Pops)

That way providers get rewarded for doing something special.

It is well known that if you’re polite you can almost always talk the MS down to 40 for house fee. Now it’s time to get the provider fee down!

KillingAngel
04-06-09, 00:01
Some guys are tipping $1.8 to girls in the AMPS and not $1.5.

Driving up the prices and the expectations of a higher price especially in these economic times.

H Mobius
04-06-09, 01:15
Some guys are tipping $1.8 to girls in the AMPS and not $1.5.

Driving up the prices and the expectations of a higher price especially in these economic times.

Reminds me of when I used to regularly date this oriental Waikiki SW. Back then FS was $ for locals and $$+ for tourists. Then one night she announced it was $$, cuz "that's what somebody else paid". A couple years ago (many years later), this local SW quoted me $$ and admitted it was just to get to the room, and she would charge extra for anything more. So, I agree.

H M

Straw
04-06-09, 02:41
They may think they can do better elsewhere but our economy lags the mainland. With the financial crisis, New York is dead. With the housing market, Nevada, Florida, Arizona, California are haddit too. I wonder where they see the greener pastures?

I've scan the photos section and read how much our mainland counter parts pay and none of them are paying over $100 for FS.

I can speak for Vegas and you won't find any FS for $100. In some AMPs you can get it for a $.40 tip - plus the entrance fee. There are very few AMP providers in Vegas under 30, also. In AAMPs you can get it for $.20 total. And you can always find some skanks on CL for $.

You can get it for $ plus the entrance fee in LA AMPs - but Arizona is also still running around $.40 tip.

Magnod
04-06-09, 03:26
In Vegas, years ago before that big sting. I used to visit some apartment incall places that were around $.5 for everything. No extra house fees, etc.

Starfox64
04-06-09, 05:17
The providers here all lie to get the most they can. Don't believe the hype!

The girls in Hawaii are overpaid because guys believe their BS to include that there is going to be a shortage of hoes. Where do they come up with this BS?

Like I said, lets work on this and bring the price down.

Just think how cool it would be if we bring it down to 100 here. There will be more business PLUS having 2 girls at once may end up being more common for some that can afford it! :-)

Here is one idea for new prices in Hawaii.

House Fee = 40
Provider = 100
Tip = 10 for each extra (BBFS, BBBJ, Greece, Salad Toss, Multi Pops)

That way providers get rewarded for doing something special.

It is well known that if you’re polite you can almost always talk the MS down to 40 for house fee. Now it’s time to get the provider fee down!+10 for being able to speak english instead of engrish.

Chik0848
04-06-09, 16:22
I can speak for Vegas and you won't find any FS for $100. In some AMPs you can get it for a $. 40 tip. Plus the entrance fee. There are very few AMP providers in Vegas under 30, also. In AAMPs you can get it for $. 20 total. And you can always find some skanks on CL for $.

You can get it for $ plus the entrance fee in LA AMPs. But Arizona is also still running around $. 40 tip.Was in Vegas in late Feb. Called a number on CL and was given directions to a short term rental apartment complex on Flamingo. Nice complex. It's a two call set up and was a nice Korean woman about 25 years old from NY. They normally spend about two weeks and return "home. " She was very nice and accomodating. Small talk, CBJ, CG, Miss and hot towel. It hit the spot since I was on the way to catch a flight home. Damage $. 4 although CL ad said $. 2. No big deal.

KingDd
04-08-09, 23:57
I've scan the photos section and read how much our mainland counter parts pay and none of them are paying over $100 for FS.The truth is a lot of guys on the mainland are paying 150-180/hh for CL girls, but 100/hh is available if you look hard enough. 50-80 for 15 min can be had too, but that's really hard to find.

By the way, most mainland girls don't charge for extras now days, but certainly a subset does.

Kanakatak
04-28-09, 05:28
Seems like this thread has been leaning towards AMP pricing. What I'd like to know is what's the going rate for a BJ in dt behind longs?

Excellent Dude
05-03-09, 00:59
Prices here are the highest in the country.
And we can only blame ourselves for that.
I only go in once every two to three weeks because of it.
Way too high.

Kapalua
05-03-09, 03:18
What I'd like to know is what's the going rate for a BJ in dt behind longs?
In my experience, there is no precise "going rate." It's not like shopping at Safeway. :) A price can depend upon a variety of factors, including how much the provider needs money at that particular time; how slow or busy it is in the area; whether the provider is in danger of being abused by her pimp for not making enough money that night; what type of bj the customer wants (bb or not, cim or not); the appearance, personality and behavior of the customer; whether the customer is already known to the provider or is a stranger; whether the customer is experienced at negotiation; and whether any other providers are listening to a discussion of the price.

Memahu
05-03-09, 04:39
Prices here are the highest in the country.
And we can only blame ourselves for that.
I only go in once every two to three weeks because of it.
Way too high.
Isn't there a shipping cost?

Excellent Dude
05-03-09, 16:53
Shipping costs were made up the first day she was here.

Okay then, "How about Kamaaina rates"?

Just like in Mexico. One menu for the tourists and another menu for the locals.

Somebody should come up with the "Kamaaina Rates".

Take it from me. They'll make more money doing Kamaaina rates, because we'll see them more.

We should "Ma La Da"!!

From "Da DaKine",




your most "Excellent Dude"

Kipapa Gulch
05-03-09, 22:42
It is true. We probably have the highest rates in the country.

The northeast is less. And you have 100 times the clientele there.

Us guys in hawaii will always take it in the Okole!

Figuratively speaking that is.

"No Count Mofo"

Kapalua
05-24-09, 16:23
Many messages about pricing concern high prices, so I thought it could be interesting to hear about the lowest prices that providers have ever offered forum members in Hawaii.

For me, the lowest-ever price offer happened years ago. It was a proposal for a five-dollar blow job in a sleazy Chinatown video booth. Now you might assume that the provider who made that discount offer was some toothless old hag, but actually she was in her twenties and looked relatively good for that area. She was candid about the reason for the low price: she was broke and wanted to buy a hit of crack cocaine.

So, fellow hobbyists, what was your lowest-ever price offer from a provider in Hawaii?

Rexkirby00
05-24-09, 17:02
Lol Kap,

Depends on how far back you want to go. About 3 years or so. 20 for covered FS dt. 10 for a very nice unrushed BJ. Recently, a free birthday gift but then again, TANSTAAFL yeah?

Rk

There aint no such thing as a free lunch = TANSTAAFL


Many messages about pricing concern high prices, so I thought it could be interesting to hear about the lowest prices that providers have ever offered forum members in Hawaii.

For me, the lowest-ever price offer happened years ago. It was a proposal for a five-dollar blow job in a sleazy Chinatown video booth. Now you might assume that the provider who made that discount offer was some toothless old hag, but actually she was in her twenties and looked relatively good for that area. She was candid about the reason for the low price: she was broke and wanted to buy a hit of crack cocaine.

So, fellow hobbyists, what was your lowest-ever price offer from a provider in Hawaii?

Hinode
05-25-09, 05:09
So, fellow hobbyists, what was your lowest-ever price offer from a provider in Hawaii?

For me, IIRC, was BBFSTCIP with the haole SW Brenda for .40.

Candy Addict
05-25-09, 08:40
If you want to go far back, way, way back in the '80-'81 time frame, there was a MP in Pearl City called Quality Spa. For a half-hour, standard rates for $20 for the house and $40 for the girl, FS. Perfect place for a broke-ass college kid! I went there nearly every payday, which is why I was always a broke-ass college kid! :D

Tommyah
05-25-09, 12:14
Central Health Spa

Had 1 stationary Bike and several Girls.

15 for the Spa and 25 for the Girl "Trainer".

Had key and locker in the rooms.

Stand-up solo showers

No cover.. BBFS.

Making $18.00/Hr in those days.

Ginger and Lani.

Captin Crunch
05-25-09, 13:01
In an effort to lower prices in Hawaii's amps, we should boycott them on their busier days. How much does a house make on a normal day? If they get 10 customers that $$$$$. If they charge 40 house fee, that would be $$$$ ($ difference). If we boycott that place the house would make NADA! $$$$ is better than nothing. Could we band together and boycott? Someone would need to organize the forum members.

Pursuer
05-25-09, 15:52
In these tough economic times, I now routinely ask the amp mama if .4 is acceptable. If not, I immediately bail. If so, I wait to see who is assigned to me. If not TOTALLY satisfied with her looks/body, I ask mama for my money back. I think we all need to be a bit more discriminating.

As for the provider, I'll tip $.50, if the session goes the full hour and the service is satisfactory. Sliding scale if less than a full hour of adequate service. Poor attitude, poor service equal poor tip.

If more of us have this kind of attitude, I believe prices will drop and/or services will improve.

Skydiver
05-25-09, 17:34
$0.2 BJ or HJ DT is on the menu. One will get shut down maybe 60% of the time, but that leaves 40% success rate!

$0.5 greek.haole, incredible body, all her teeth and good personality. Just caught it at the right time.

Ten Sen
05-25-09, 18:07
My lowest for a BJ was about 1.5 years ago. Haole, in her 20's. Got it for.1 or ten dollars. My lowest for FS was also about a year ago with a Filipino SW for.2 or twenty dollars. She committed suicide, I do not recall her name (getting old) but she was great, I saw her about once Every 2-3 weeks. Will miss her.

Stangman808
05-25-09, 18:58
Central Health Spa

Had 1 stationary Bike and several Girls.

15 for the Spa and 25 for the Girl "Trainer".

Had key and locker in the rooms.

Stand-up solo showers

No cover.. BBFS.

Making $18.00/Hr in those days.

Ginger and Lani.

Was Central Health on Queen Emma Street mauka of Beretania Street?

Kipapa Gulch
05-25-09, 20:33
Do you remember that there was another major gentlemens club above Central Health on the top floor. I forgot the name, but a monger needed to have a reference and a card to get in.

I went in one night and there was at least 40 girls to pick from.

There was that club and another that was on McCully near the overpass.

The year was 1971 thru 1975. Price was around 20-40.

Anybody know where the gentlemen's clubs went to?

Tommyah
05-26-09, 15:16
Was Central Health on Queen Emma Street mauka of Beretania Street?Yea, that's the one.. had to get buzzed-in with the lady in the Plex-Glass Window.

[QUOTE=No Count Mofo]Do you remember that there was another major gentlemens club above Central Health on the top floor.[QUOTE]

I don't remember that, but then, I never went up any higher in that building.

The one by Cartright Field? On Keamoku, between Kinau and Beretania, across the Mai lin Restraunt.
And "Cat House" in Waikiki..2nd floor $10.00 for the room.
Is this forum about cheap AMP's of the pass?

Honolulu Yobo
05-26-09, 23:02
Do you remember that there was another major gentlemens club above Central Health on the top floor. I forgot the name, but a monger needed to have a reference and a card to get in.

I went in one night and there was at least 40 girls to pick from.

There was that club and another that was on McCully near the overpass.

The year was 1971 thru 1975. Price was around 20-40.

Anybody know where the gentlemen's clubs went to?These gentlemens clubs went the way of the Dodo bird, courtesy of our city prosecutor Charles Marsland.
He went on a rampage because his son was murdered by some gangland types.
In my opinion, these were the best of times, as there were many places to go to, and being that they did not advertise, you had to know someone to get inside.
There were all women of all ethnic backgrounds including lots of Haoles and even Japanese women. Some of the places even had peepholes so that you could check out the women without being seen before choosing them.
House fees were .15 and the tips were .30. I remember going to these places 6 days a week (they were closed on Sunday's).
In some of the places there was even card games that took place.
These are the places that I remember, Riches-where One Waterfront Towers now stands on Auahi St; Fuji's-the building behind DO-RE-MI Karaoke; Central- Mauka of Beretania Behind the Queen Emma Office Building; There was one above Exotic Nights that I can't remember the name.
All the services were BB and rimming was allowed.

HY

Stevet09
05-27-09, 17:08
These are the places that I remember, Riches-where One Waterfront Towers now stands on Auahi St; Fuji's-the building behind DO-RE-MI Karaoke; Central- Mauka of Beretania Behind the Queen Emma Office Building; There was one above Exotic Nights that I can't remember the name.

All the services were BB and rimming was allowed.

HYI am not old enough to know the 1970s, but in the 1990s, behind Doremi karaoke was called Magic Hands, and above Exotic Nights was called 7th Heaven. VIP was actually in the driveway between Exotics and the current Ward avenue 3 plex building.

H Mobius
05-30-09, 06:40
behind Doremi karaoke was called Magic Hands.

I think that was my first AMP ever. Can't remember her name right now but she was skinny with nice lean muscular buns with such control that she could "clap" them together while lying on her tummy!

She also demonstrated her tae kwon do skills, and her flexibility in kicking her leg straight up (naked). On the second visit she dove right into BBFS/GFE. Forget her name but will probably remember her for a long time to come.

Memahu
06-02-09, 03:22
I think that was my first AMP ever.
That place might have been my first too. I was so naive that I asked for the girl in the ad who turned out to be Korean model Sung Hi Lee.

Hypo Luxa
06-02-09, 05:19
That place might have been my first too. I was so naive that I asked for the girl in the ad who turned out to be Korean model Sung Hi Lee.
...if only SHL would've walked into the room when you asked for her, eh? She's getting close to 40 now... still hot though!

Memahu
06-03-09, 02:21
...if only SHL would've walked into the room when you asked for her, eh? She's getting close to 40 now... still hot though!
Don't hot Korean women work at Crystal Healing when they turn 40? So, I wouldn't be surprise to see an ex-model from Korea there.

Da One
06-03-09, 05:18
I think that was my first AMP ever. Do you guys remeber Spot Fantasy above what is now Gulick Deli & Jimbo's on King Street? Back in the day that was one of the "hot" spots. What was that place called on the 2nd. floor of CC where Utopia is now located?? That place had very hot girls during it's prime.

Stangman808
06-03-09, 05:42
Do you guys remeber Spot Fantasy above what is now Gulick Deli & Jimbo's on King Street? Back in the day that was one of the "hot" spots. What was that place called on the 2nd. floor of CC where Utopia is now located?? That place had very hot girls during it's prime.

Spot Fantasy was one of my regular AMPS. It was a pretty big place with quite a large shower room and they also had a jacuzzi. After Spot Fantasy closed the owner/MS opened a restaurant downstairs which I believe was called Kings Cave. I think the AMP in CC you are referring to was Hula Hands. I used to frequent another AMP in CC on the mauka side called Soapland, anyone remember that place?

Jiro9673
06-03-09, 11:30
Do you guys remeber Spot Fantasy above what is now Gulick Deli & Jimbo's on King Street? Back in the day that was one of the "hot" spots. What was that place called on the 2nd. floor of CC where Utopia is now located?? That place had very hot girls during it's prime.Thanks for reminding me about this place! I forgot all about it. Had some nice looking ones with hot bods there. Had a few sessions with some nice young pinay ones there, but one of the best was a young, hapa korean one that was from Seattle.

Good times.

Da One
06-04-09, 23:58
Thanks for reminding me about this place! I forgot all about it. Had some nice looking ones with hot bods there. Had a few sessions with some nice young pinay ones there, but one of the best was a young, hapa korean one that was from Seattle.

Good times. Yea, very good times, no internet. No other place that I know of had young hot Pinays since Spot Fantasy.

Hypo Luxa
06-05-09, 02:02
Yea, very good times, no internet. No other place that I know of had young hot Pinays since Spot Fantasy.
My first AMP experience was there! It was a Korean girl named Jay in 1997! She allowed me two pops (including BBBJCIM) and spoiled me for the pleasures of providers!

Stevet09
06-05-09, 16:02
Spot Fantasy was one of my regular AMPS. It was a pretty big place with quite a large shower room and they also had a jacuzzi. After Spot Fantasy closed the owner/MS opened a restaurant downstairs which I believe was called Kings Cave. I think the AMP in CC you are referring to was Hula Hands. I used to frequent another AMP in CC on the mauka side called Soapland, anyone remember that place?Hula hands was my first amp experience. It was actually pretty nice - each girl had their own room decorated uniquely with all kind of girly shit like flowers and pink tablecloths and fuzzy pillows and stuff. It felt a little more like you were going to an actual chicks room rather than a sparse room with nothing more than a bed, chair, lonely light, and a nightstand(see Pine tree).

I had my first hge(haole girl experience) there. More fantasy than reality if my memory serves right.

Then, there was the place on a high floor of CC, that eventually moved to below O-lounge on Kapiolani across from where Evergreen is now(actually at that time I think it was also called Evergreen, before it changed to New Office, then Niagara, and back to Evergreen). Anyone remember that place? It was a pretty big AMP if I remember right.

Stangman808
06-06-09, 00:38
Then, there was the place on a high floor of CC, that eventually moved to below O-lounge on Kapiolani across from where Evergreen is now(actually at that time I think it was also called Evergreen, before it changed to New Office, then Niagara, and back to Evergreen). Anyone remember that place? It was a pretty big AMP if I remember right.

Was that the AMP in the building next to the ramp that went up to the old China House restaurant and on the upper floor of that building there was a Radio Shack store? I went there maybe twice, but can't recall the name of that AMP. Anyone remember the name.

H Mobius
06-06-09, 01:11
Do you guys remeber Spot Fantasy above what is now Gulick Deli & Jimbo's on King Street? Back in the day that was one of the "hot" spots.

Yup, back then my coworker's friend went there and got ripped-off. I then went and looked and all I saw were a couple sun-dried 30/40-something blondes.

Stangman808
06-06-09, 02:38
Yup, back then my coworker's friend went there and got ripped-off. I then went and looked and all I saw were a couple sun-dried 30/40-something blondes.

Sorry to hear that. The many times I went there I never saw any caucasian providers. While there was one older heavy set Korean provider, the rest of the providers were younger Korean and local girls. There was also one Japanese girl in her late 20's. Glad I didn't visit on the same day you did.

Da One
06-06-09, 03:45
Was that the AMP in the building next to the ramp that went up to the old China House restaurant and on the upper floor of that building there was a Radio Shack store? I went there maybe twice, but can't recall the name of that AMP. Anyone remember the name. Was that place called something like R & R spa or relaxation?

Stangman808
06-06-09, 05:19
Was that place called something like R & R spa or relaxation?

You have a good memory. It was called "R&R", and before that I believe it was called "TLC". Thank you for helping refresh my memory.

Memahu
06-06-09, 06:18
Was that place called something like R & R spa or relaxation?
Those were the days when some of the AMPs had a thin mattress on the floor even in a huge room. Now, it's all on beds. I don't remember the last time I wasn't on a bed at an AMP.

Hinode
06-06-09, 06:49
Those were the days when some of the AMPs had a thin mattress on the floor even in a huge room. Now, it's all on beds. I don't remember the last time I wasn't on a bed at an AMP.

Golden Massage on S. King st. never have beds.

Mattresses on da floor.

H

Memahu
06-06-09, 18:41
Golden Massage on S. King st. never have beds.

Mattresses on da floor.

H
I haven't been to Golden Massage. The last mattress on the floor place I went to was Crystal Healing. Did they switch to beds yet? Mattress on the floor gives a hole in the wall impression. But, you can find a gem at these outta way places, if they give good service with attractive providers.

Does anybody remember the two AMPs located between the Old New Yorker and KGMB studio? Those were behind the row of businesses which now has the Japanese adult video place and a lingerie shop on Makaloa Street?

Stevet09
06-06-09, 18:58
Was that place called something like R & R spa or relaxation?If I remember right, it was a pretty big place. In response to the thin mattress on the floor comments, I remember going to a place in California once that had only those big fuzzy Korean blankets on the floor in the rooms. Talk about hole in the wall!

Stangman808
06-06-09, 21:03
Does anybody remember the two AMPs located between the Old New Yorker and KGMB studio? Those were behind the row of businesses which now has the Japanese adult video place and a lingerie shop on Makaloa Street?

I believe the two AMPS were "Rainbow" and "Magic Hands". I went to Rainbow's a few times, but never to Magic Hands. I used to cut through the parking lot sometimes to get to the ramp behind the building to go to New Yorker, and would peek into Magic Hands as I walked by, but never got around to going there.

Blake123
06-07-09, 05:09
Those were the days when some of the AMPs had a thin mattress on the floor even in a huge room. Now, it's all on beds. I don't remember the last time I wasn't on a bed at an AMP.

I remember the place where Angel (CC 1st floor) is located had matresses on the floor during the early 90s. Good times were had there.

Niner Whiner
06-15-09, 06:19
I believe the two AMPS were "Rainbow" and "Magic Hands". I went to Rainbow's a few times, but never to Magic Hands. I used to cut through the parking lot sometimes to get to the ramp behind the building to go to New Yorker, and would peek into Magic Hands as I walked by, but never got around to going there.It was Rainbow7.

Justin H
06-15-09, 23:16
I believe the two AMPS were "Rainbow" and "Magic Hands". I went to Rainbow's a few times, but never to Magic Hands. I used to cut through the parking lot sometimes to get to the ramp behind the building to go to New Yorker, and would peek into Magic Hands as I walked by, but never got around to going there.


you guys remember the haole that used to work there? Pam gave one of the best BBJ ever. back in the early 90's this place called Salon De Tokyo.

Stangman808
06-16-09, 00:14
you guys remember the haole that used to work there? Pam gave one of the best BBJ ever. back in the early 90's this place called Salon De Tokyo.

Salon De Tokyo was in the same building that Ichiban is in, although it was down the hall from where Ichiban is located. Salon De Tokyo then became "EZ", then "New R&R" and finally "New Yorker". When Champions (now Ichiban) first opened, I thought it was at the old New Yorker location.

H Mobius
06-18-09, 02:17
Salon De Tokyo was in the same building that Ichiban is in, although it was down the hall from where Ichiban is located. Salon De Tokyo then became "EZ", then "New R&R" and finally "New Yorker". When Champions (now Ichiban) first opened, I thought it was at the old New Yorker location.

Interesting! By the time I came upon that area, it was New Yorker (seldom went to Napa's). Never saw such a busy jam-packed AMP on the weekends. Those were some of the horniest girls I ever punched time with. Nice awesome lineup, and discreet location.

One time long after they were closed down I saw a Korean lady go inside, and for a short time thereafter I checked back, hoping like a puppy that someone would answer the door, but no luck.

Jiro9673
06-18-09, 11:29
Salon De Tokyo was in the same building that Ichiban is in, although it was down the hall from where Ichiban is located. Salon De Tokyo then became "EZ", then "New R&R" and finally "New Yorker". When Champions (now Ichiban) first opened, I thought it was at the old New Yorker location.New Yorker! Wow, almost forgot about that place. I had one of my ATF's there - Julia. I'm sure a lot of brothers remember her.

Stangman808
06-19-09, 03:53
[QUOTE=H Mobius]Interesting! By the time I came upon that area, it was New Yorker (seldom went to Napa's). Never saw such a busy jam-packed AMP on the weekends. Those were some of the horniest girls I ever punched time with. Nice awesome lineup, and discreet location.

Back then New Yorker was one of my regular stops. The big lighted aquariums gave a cool effect to the dimly lit interior and Molly who was my regular provider there always left me satisfied.

Shydude
06-19-09, 05:05
It was Rainbow7.I think it was actually Rainbow Massage.

Rainbow 7 was on Ward Ave.

Shydude
06-19-09, 05:07
New Yorker! Wow, almost forgot about that place. I had one of my ATF's there - Julia. I'm sure a lot of brothers remember her.I don't think I've ever gotten to see her. My favorite was always Hana. Second place would go to Kitty if she didn't have doodoo breath.

Stangman808
06-20-09, 06:17
It was Rainbow7.


"Rainbow 7" was an AMP at 350 Ward Avenue. The AMP on Makaloa Street was just "Rainbow". (Relaxation/Massage)

Kaelsan
06-20-09, 09:27
"Rainbow 7" was an AMP at 350 Ward Avenue. The AMP on Makaloa Street was just "Rainbow". (Relaxation/Massage)

The last time I went to Rainbow 7 was when it was in a building just off of Piikoi St. It was on the second floor of the building with the pay parking lot near Side Street Inn between Hoapaka and Kona St. It's been closed for almost two years now I believe. This place had a mix bag of Kgirls, locals, and Caucasians. I'm second guessing myself now but I'm pretty sure this place was called Rainbow 7.

Stangman808
06-20-09, 14:08
The last time I went to Rainbow 7 was when it was in a building just off of Piikoi St. It was on the second floor of the building with the pay parking lot near Side Street Inn between Hoapaka and Kona St. It's been closed for almost two years now I believe. This place had a mix bag of Kgirls, locals, and Caucasians. I'm second guessing myself now but I'm pretty sure this place was called Rainbow 7.

I believe the AMP at 350 Ward Avenue was called "Champagne Studio", then "Studio", and then "Rainbow 7". Later the AMP at 510 Piikoi Street went by the name of "Rainbow 7" and "Rainbow 9".

Hypo Luxa
06-20-09, 15:09
"Rainbow 7" was an AMP at 350 Ward Avenue. The AMP on Makaloa Street was just "Rainbow". (Relaxation/Massage)
Wasn't it called "Rainbow Toning?" Had some good times there... Got my first rim there!

I remember KPOI back when they had the Blaze guy as DJ sent one of their interns there for "service" and wanted him to report on it on air the next day. They only sent him there with .5 for entry and .5 for service... so he probably didn't have much to report.

Memahu
06-21-09, 05:19
They only sent him there with .5 for entry and .5 for service... so he probably didn't have much to report.
He probably still got a hand for that report. Local tv news stations used to do investigative reports on AMPs during sweeps week.

Lip Licker
06-21-09, 06:58
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa]Wasn't it called "Rainbow Toning?" Had some good times there... Got my first rim there!
QUOTE]

I remember the sign saying only "Rainbow" with a picture of a rainbow on it with white background...but it has been some 10+ years since they closed so I could be wrong. I also recall it being somewhat small but the lineup was pretty nice every time I went.

Warburton 0263
06-21-09, 19:32
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa]Wasn't it called "Rainbow Toning?" Had some good times there... Got my first rim there!
QUOTE]

I remember the sign saying only "Rainbow" with a picture of a rainbow on it with white background...but it has been some 10+ years since they closed so I could be wrong. I also recall it being somewhat small but the lineup was pretty nice every time I went.

Rainbows had the best girls MS penny was hot too. It was very discrete with the entrance away from the main road. MS penny closed rainbow and opened PT that was a korean church. So the praying for something good was happening way before PT was there.

Hypo Luxa
06-23-09, 21:58
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa]...but it has been some 10+ years since they closed so I could be wrong.
Good God time flies!!! TEN frickin' years!

Lip Licker
06-23-09, 23:17
[QUOTE=Lip Licker]

Rainbows had the best girls MS penny was hot too. It was very discrete with the entrance away from the main road. MS penny closed rainbow and opened PT that was a korean church. So the praying for something good was happening way before PT was there.

That explains why PT was my favorite place for so many years after!

Yes, I believe it has been about 10 years or so...when I look back on it I am almost afraid to add up how much I have spent since then on this "hobby". If I had to do it all again, I'd have spent even more!

Hypo Luxa
06-24-09, 00:02
[QUOTE=Warburton 0263]

That explains why PT was my favorite place for so many years after!

Yes, I believe it has been about 10 years or so...when I look back on it I am almost afraid to add up how much I have spent since then on this "hobby". If I had to do it all again, I'd have spent even more!
One time a few years ago I tried to tally it up, and just stopped counting after it passed $50K!!! That was only the ones I could figure out. Probably forgot half the sessions I've had.

Qjkl
06-24-09, 06:50
[QUOTE=Lip Licker]
One time a few years ago I tried to tally it up, and just stopped counting after it passed $50K!!! That was only the ones I could figure out. Probably forgot half the sessions I've had.

That's why you need to keep a log, so when you're 90 years old you remember while you're smiling.

Cosmic Kid
11-16-09, 11:13
Honolulu AMPs should seriously consider instituting the hundred dollar half-hour quickie option. House gets. 25, provider gets. 75 This just might bring in a lot more business for them. Substantially improve their profit margin by volume. At that price, I know I'd be showing up on their doorsteps a lot more than I have been. And I can definitely get the job done in a half hour, no problem. Like, afternoon delights, lunch break style, you know? What do you guys think?

Cosmic Kid
11-16-09, 15:44
Honolulu amps should really consider instituting a one hundred dollar, half-hour quickie option. House gets .25, and provider gets .75 Boost customer volume, increase profits. At that price, I know I'd be showing up on their doorsteps a lot more than I have been. Half hour's enough to get the job done. The afternoon delights lunch break interlude deal. You guys think this plan would work?

Warburton 0263
11-16-09, 19:22
Honolulu amps should really consider instituting a one hundred dollar, half-hour quickie option. House gets .25, and provider gets .75 Boost customer volume, increase profits. At that price, I know I'd be showing up on their doorsteps a lot more than I have been. Half hour's enough to get the job done. The afternoon delights lunch break interlude deal. You guys think this plan would work?

Amps should also have a 15 min for fifty quick quickie option.

Pineapple Kid
11-16-09, 20:18
Amps should also have a 15 min for fifty quick quickie option.I hope that someone will plant these suggestions to the Mama's!!! They are both EXCELLENT suggestions, and I hope they will adopt these!

Crouchingtiger
11-16-09, 21:26
[QUOTE=Lip Licker]
One time a few years ago I tried to tally it up, and just stopped counting after it passed $50K!!! That was only the ones I could figure out. Probably forgot half the sessions I've had.

Eh Hypo stop it! Don't make me think about all the money I lost, good times yes, but lots of bad ones too, not to mention I was paying $50 more than I should before, now I will only do that if girl gives BB and let me go twice.

I think I should own two condo's or one really big house by now-damn! WTF though can't take it with you. Besides some guys lose all that in a divorce-haha.

Crouchingtiger
11-16-09, 21:34
Honolulu amps should really consider instituting a one hundred dollar, half-hour quickie option. House gets .25, and provider gets .75 Boost customer volume, increase profits. At that price, I know I'd be showing up on their doorsteps a lot more than I have been. Half hour's enough to get the job done. The afternoon delights lunch break interlude deal. You guys think this plan would work?
It would be good for us, not for them. Why? Think about the businesses, all run this way- you get discount for bulk transaction, They actually lose money what you propose, because they have to spend more time getting ready, if 1/2 hr then next guy, need 10 -15 minute to get ready, but one hour and get only one guy one pop and less work, your suggestion is more work, money not guarenteed. Basically saying every girl now has to give two pops for full hour- you think they going like it? If you are them would you?
No-if they do half hour, like they have on the mainland going be like .35 house
100 girl, then they might.

Cruise808
11-17-09, 03:35
Wasn't it called "Rainbow Toning?" Had some good times there... Got my first rim there!

I remember KPOI back when they had the Blaze guy as DJ sent one of their interns there for "service" and wanted him to report on it on air the next day. They only sent him there with .5 for entry and .5 for service... so he probably didn't have much to report.I remember a rainbow toning, and that dj that went to some spa.

Stevet09
11-17-09, 04:43
[QUOTE=Lip Licker]
One time a few years ago I tried to tally it up, and just stopped counting after it passed $50K!!! That was only the ones I could figure out. Probably forgot half the sessions I've had.

That's why the girl's name is no longer of any importance to me. I'm so jaded that if the mama insists I have to come up with a girl's name to prove I've been there before, I just make one up on the spot, and if she says "no more girl here with that name" I just make another one up and tell her I've seen so many over the years at all the different places, and, how am I going to remember them all? After awhile, the mms usually gets the picture that I don't give a crap about names, except for referencing who is good at the moment. Truthfully I've forgotten all the names except for a handful of gems.
Kim(Sarah) - PT
Hannah - NYNY
Pinky - M Palace
Jenny - Smile
Sheesh I guess I could only remember four! Others I might remember if I saw them again, but even then... brain fart! But 50k? I don't think I've hit that plateau, and I also hope it was more than just amping in Honolulu. I hope you've done other countries, bars, and all of the other action the world has had to offer! But, even if you've limited yourself to Hon. amps, to each his own!

Un Holy
11-17-09, 06:29
Not gonna happen here. Hawaii is more expensive than the mainland. That is why the girls like it here. In Calif you can get all for 150 or less. But the quality of pussy here is better. I wish they would give a quickie, but do you think their pussy can handle 10-20 cocks a day?

Vodka1
11-17-09, 13:20
Thats a good idea- 1/2 hr quickies I like that!

Candy Addict
11-17-09, 19:15
Way back when I first started mongering here (1980-ish), my favorite establishment, the old Quality Health Spa in Pearl City, offered half hour sessions - 20 for the house, 40 for the girl. Thank God! Cuz it was all this poor college boy could afford at the time! I went there pretty much every payday. :D

Punsai69
11-17-09, 21:49
When I visited Seoul, South Korea, they have alleys full of glass doors with girls sitting behind them. All trying to get your attention to "visit" with them. Once inside, the girl took me to another room and points to her watch and says 15 minutes. I was thinking, Yeah Right. I stripped down, she took a bowl of water and toweled my dick. She got me hard then went straight to business. It took a little longer then 15 minutes but it was definitely rushed. If I recall correctly, it cost me $60. Too bad no more that kind places here.

Dr Mallard
11-17-09, 23:38
In the Bay Area a half hour costs 120 to 140, but an hour is 140 to 160.

I always take the hour.

Check the ads on Eros to verify.

Doc

Zzzzzzz
11-18-09, 00:08
When I visited Seoul, South Korea, they have alleys full of glass doors with girls sitting behind them. All trying to get your attention to "visit" with them. Once inside, the girl took me to another room and points to her watch and says 15 minutes. I was thinking, Yeah Right. I stripped down, she took a bowl of water and toweled my dick. She got me hard then went straight to business. It took a little longer then 15 minutes but it was definitely rushed. If I recall correctly, it cost me $60. Too bad no more that kind places here.Did you mean, "Pipteen meenet?" Tee hee.

Phillybeauties
11-18-09, 02:14
When I visited Seoul, South Korea, they have alleys full of glass doors with girls sitting behind them. All trying to get your attention to "visit" with them. Once inside, the girl took me to another room and points to her watch and says 15 minutes. I was thinking, Yeah Right. I stripped down, she took a bowl of water and toweled my dick. She got me hard then went straight to business. It took a little longer then 15 minutes but it was definitely rushed. If I recall correctly, it cost me $60. Too bad no more that kind places here.

That's $180 for 45 min. You'd do better visiting amps in hawaii at $200 for an hour (IF you get the hour, as you know some places will rush you and you might be lucky to get the 45 min). Were the girls that much hotter over there to make it worth it?

Cosmic Kid
11-18-09, 10:33
Un Holy said, "I wish they would give a quickie, but do you think their pussy can handle 10-20 cocks a day? " Crouchingtiger said, "It would be good for us, not for them. They lose money what you propose, have to spend more time getting ready, " etc. These are valid arguments, no question about it.

Okay, but let's take for example an AMP where maybe the providers are older, not getting the traffic of places written up on this board, and the ms knows it. So these women are probably just sitting around much of the time anyway. Seems to me this 1/2 hr concept could maybe give AMPs in that type of predicament some leverage against their competition. I mean, even with this scenario, those chicks ain't going to be having to contend with 10-20 cocks a day!

Plus, I keep wondering, where did the. 50/$. 50 Hawaii AMP price standard originate anyway? Like who set that up?! It's not as if there is a Hawaii AMP Providers' Union in existence that negotiates with the AMPs, or a state law in place that says AMPs and AMP providers legally must be paid x amount of $s for (technically illegal) services rendered! This is NOT a price scale written in stone, fer gods sake! What, did all the mammas get together in a secret conspiracy to agree to this standard price arrangement? I still suspect some price flexibility and competition among AMPs, whether or not that ends up taking the form of my 1/2 hr, 1/2 price suggestion, might be advantageous to some of the AMPs and also for some of us guys too. I personally do not need the hottest looking piece of young expensive ass to get off every single goddam time; just hit me with some cheap fast pussy!

Dorobonecko
11-18-09, 15:27
That's $180 for 45 min. You'd do better visiting AMPs in hawaii at $200 for an hour (IF you get the hour, as you know some places will rush you and you might be lucky to get the 45 min). Were the girls that much hotter over there to make it worth it? That depends on how you look at it: I see it as $60/pop versus $200/pop.

And the girls there are really hot. I remember being led down a long dark alley to a shop where the ajuma slid open the blacked out glass door to reveal 8 beautiful young girls (and one not so beautiful), all wearing wedding dresses. It was like being in a candy store.

Pok Gai
11-18-09, 15:38
Just got back from Vegas

I think the 1/2H was 40, but the Hour was 60. To me the extra 20 was worth it not to be rushed. I'm sure they priced it that way knowing guys like me would think that way.

If we had a 30/50 &$/$. 5 split here, I probably would opt for the hour unless I was pressed for time. Besides, if there really were a 1/2H option. Imagine them trying to cheat you on time; p rush you out in 20 mins like our brother in Korea!

DT Looker
11-18-09, 16:00
I am too wondering about some of the prices. I you lurk in the other threads. Girls from California, to Miami (some which are even hotter than some of the Hawaii girls) charge about the same rates as low end DT girls. Which is why I started this thread in the beginning. Many of them much better looking than DT low end girls. Some better than Longs, or Waikiki girls. Yea, I know in Hawaii we usually pay more, but I'm seeing an almost 300% more than some other places. You can go to California, get a pretty hot girl there, looks about the same as a Waikiki, or Longs Girl. With FS for $40-60. Which to me is a major bargain.

Crouchingtiger
11-18-09, 16:14
Un Holy said, "I wish they would give a quickie, but do you think their pussy can handle 10-20 cocks a day? " Crouchingtiger said, "It would be good for us, not for them. They lose money what you propose, have to spend more time getting ready, " etc. These are valid arguments, no question about it.

Okay, but let's take for example an AMP where maybe the providers are older, not getting the traffic of places written up on this board, and the ms knows it. So these women are probably just sitting around much of the time anyway. Seems to me this 1/2 hr concept could maybe give AMPs in that type of predicament some leverage against their competition. I mean, even with this scenario, those chicks ain't going to be having to contend with 10-20 cocks a day!

Plus, I keep wondering, where did the. 50/$. 50 Hawaii AMP price standard originate anyway? Like who set that up?! It's not as if there is a Hawaii AMP Providers' Union in existence that negotiates with the AMPs, or a state law in place that says AMPs and AMP providers legally must be paid x amount of $s for (technically illegal) services rendered! This is NOT a price scale written in stone, fer gods sake! What, did all the mammas get together in a secret conspiracy to agree to this standard price arrangement? I still suspect some price flexibility and competition among AMPs, whether or not that ends up taking the form of my 1/2 hr, 1/2 price suggestion, might be advantageous to some of the AMPs and also for some of us guys too. I personally do not need the hottest looking piece of young expensive ass to get off every single goddam time; just hit me with some cheap fast pussy!
I don't know how the pricing thing came about, but if you go to cheap, I can guarentee, next time your foot is not getting in the door and soon you will run out of amps to visit.

Not every monger has to have a young tight body, we would don't get me wrong, but I have found some of the older ones give better sevice like the ones at CHM, they already know they can't compete in looks with the young girl, but how many young girls give service like Cherry and others. Most young girls, especially if they have other customers want it done asap so they can get to the next customers. For me at least the older ones (35+) are so willing to please and are less likely to give rules

Crouchingtiger
11-18-09, 16:23
I am too wondering about some of the prices. I you lurk in the other threads. Girls from California, to Miami (some which are even hotter than some of the Hawaii girls) charge about the same rates as low end DT girls. Which is why I started this thread in the beginning. Many of them much better looking than DT low end girls. Some better than Longs, or Waikiki girls. Yea, I know in Hawaii we usually pay more, but I'm seeing an almost 300% more than some other places. You can go to California, get a pretty hot girl there, looks about the same as a Waikiki, or Longs Girl. With FS for $40-60. Which to me is a major bargain.
Have you gotten a hot girl in california for 40-60 for an hour? back when I was living there you couldn't, not for an hour. last year I saw some girls for 150 in SD and LA, but the service wasn't great, I am not talking about some SW or druggy type chick either, talking about a someone who lucks like lucy thai and that type. If you go escorts they alsotend to charge even more. The girls look hot but act jaded from the get go.

Cosmic Kid
11-28-09, 17:07
On 11-16-09 I posted to this thread, suggesting local AMPs should consider experimenting with a half-price, half-hour quickie option. Then Warburton 0263 chimed in, suggesting a 15 minute,. 5 super-quickie option. Now I just noticed on the Escort Classified Ads thread Dee Jae is offering 15 min, 30 min, and 45 minute options! She claims to be the only provider with a 15 min for. 6 offering. I'm curious if she picked up on that idea from this thread. Has anyone sampled her? Have to wonder if she'll be financially successful with this arrangement, and if some other providers will proceed to follow her lead. Of course, Dee Jae seems to be an independent, not with an AMP, but still.

Jeju Man
11-28-09, 20:26
Actually, if all mongers would just NOT pay the high prices. These providers would have no choice but the charge reasonable fees. When they quote you a high price, just turn around and walk out. We keep walking out and prices will come down. But always, some boneheads will pay more, for less quality service! How many of you pay high prices only to leave disappointed! The majority! Yet, you keep paying!

$ is very fair. $ $$ is a waste of money. The job of these gals is to seperate YOU from YOUR money!

Pineapple Kid
11-28-09, 20:27
On 11-16-09 I posted to this thread, suggesting local AMPs should consider experimenting with a half-price, half-hour quickie option. Then Warburton 0263 chimed in, suggesting a 15 minute,. 5 super-quickie option. Now I just noticed on the Escort Classified Ads thread Dee Jae is offering 15 min, 30 min, and 45 minute options! She claims to be the only provider with a 15 min for. 6 offering. I'm curious if she picked up on that idea from this thread. Has anyone sampled her? Have to wonder if she'll be financially successful with this arrangement, and if some other providers will proceed to follow her lead. Of course, Dee Jae seems to be an independent, not with an AMP, but still. Well, if someone TOFTT and gave her positive feedback, I'm sure she'll stir up more business. When that happens, I'm sure word will quickly spread! Of course, if all of us make the same suggestion the next time we get serviced, maybe that will plant an idea in all of our providers (and Mama's too hopefully) to try this pricing/price wars thing out! Especially if you get into their heads that if business is slow for them, the economy being what it is, it would be a good way for them to still recieve some incum, and we can get serviced. A Win Win if you ask me!

And if anyone has seen Dee Jae, please fill us in, so we can check her out! Mahaloz, and have a GREAT weekend!

Lono31
11-29-09, 00:25
I havent been to Sakura at University for over 6 months. I miss Jenn. Can someone tell me is it still $ for FS and .5 for the house?

Oki Chimpo
11-30-09, 15:29
Have you gotten a hot girl in california for 40-60 for an hour? Back when I was living there you couldn't, not for an hour. Last year I saw some girls for 150 in SD and LA, but the service wasn't great, I am not talking about some SW or druggy type chick either, talking about a someone who lucks like lucy thai and that type. If you go escorts they alsotend to charge even more. The girls look hot but act jaded from the get go.Not 40-60 but but I've gotten 80-100 for an hour. The thing is that it's for one pop so when you're done, the girl wants to leave so for me, I get maybe 30-40 minutes with them. Most aren't the hot white girls you think when you think of Cali, most are independent popolos or latinos that don't want to walk the street but you have to watch out as a lot of them are tweakers. I toss a lot of them out or bail if they look bad and always use a cover if they stay. There's a lot of 15 minute specials to be had in the LAX area. Last month I got a really cute faced skinny spinner popolo girl outcall to my hotel (not the famous Hawaii one) for $$ for an hour whith greek and 2 pops. She was great. She let me go from the carport to the garage and back and forth and she took it like a champ for the full hour!

Hetero Man
12-18-09, 04:16
Last time I was there she wanted $$ for covered FS anf $$$ for BBFS total..

Kipapa Gulch
01-05-10, 17:04
I need to know what the damages are for extras in the Thai Massage places at CC.

Kaminari
01-06-10, 07:10
I need to know what the damages are for extras in the Thai Massage places at CC.

Been to Best Thai once about a month or so ago and had Lucy. Quite a cutie imo L/7.5. Massage was done quite well with adequate pressure S/9. Also was pretty talkative and a tease brushing up on jr a few times on the flip before telling me with the stroking motion "he not shy" lol. Only junky part to me was that she wanted 80 for the HJ but I only had 60 and she settled for that A/9. Over all a nice experience but the HE to me felt a little rushed. Just my 2sense.

.6 house .6 "extras"

Stay safe man

Kaminari

Hinode
01-10-10, 07:19
Last time I was there she wanted $$ for covered FS anf $$$ for BBFS total..

If "She" = "Jenn" from Sakura, I might be tempted to try that $$$ since I finally got to see her face to face...but she was busy with another customer ATM...

Pok Gai
05-27-10, 17:12
Thanks in Advance.

If I go to an AMP and req 2 girls. Should it be House fee $, and each girl $.5 + extra tip? I see it that each girl would still be used for their time, but how much more for doing a 2-girl. Safe to assume 1.5 hour should just be 50% more. And MSOG would be just negotiated.

Don't want to go driving up prices. Trying to see if AMP or CL/BP escort be a better option. If anyone with exp or recommendation on a 2-girl team can PM me, would be much appreciated.

Mello D
07-19-10, 13:05
Tampa has better looking young hoes for the same prices.

Read report #253
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=7433&page=1&pp=15
GFE/LFK from her!
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=104816

200 gets you
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cum-play-with-liz-and-her-new-friend-tory/3882098

Check out
http://tampa.craigslist.org/
http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/

They got younger girls working the spas too. I have been there and it's the best in the US. Hawaii has shit service from the same old b!tches IMO. But we got better beaches.

Prices got to drop here to reflect the economy/looks/service or I will just save my cash for Thailand. Fuk Tampa!

Waikikian
07-19-10, 13:57
Tampa has better looking young hoes for the same prices.I hate to tell you this dude, but Tampa doesn't hold a candle to Miami!

I worked in Tampa when AMP's were just starting out! Got FS when guys were only getting a massage! That was nice then!

By the way is Mons Venus still doing business! The bestest strip club in America!

I guess you can still google MonsVenus!

By the way. I heard they were closing down the AMPs as fast as they could open them there! And beauty is still and always has been in the eyes of the beholder!

Great memories Tampa. Lived in Clearwater on Indian Rocks Beach!

I remember there was a Hotel on Clearwater Beach that had a bandstand outside on the beach. They did a wet T-shirt contest every weekend!

Anyway, nice recalling these memories!

Good luck Mello D.

Mello D
07-20-10, 04:06
(cliché orgy)
I hate to tell you this... By the way... By the way... beauty is... in the eyes of the beholder


"Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."
Good luck to you too Waikikian!

Mello D
07-20-10, 04:09
I think the pimps and providers are working together on keeping things the same. So I would like to have a discussion with SOMEONE in this forum who agrees that the prices should come down and that they need to get younger providers here. Let's work together on changing things so we pay less, get younger girls, AND better service. Is anybody interested?

Kanaka01
07-20-10, 04:24
I need to know what the damages are for extras in the Thai Massage places at CC.I've only seen two girls;

Nan at Thai Hawaiian - .6 house .8 HE (hand job only, she told me not to tell anyone)
Tanya at Best Thai a few months ago - .6 house .8 HE (hand job only)

Both attractive (IMO) liked Nan better.

Waikikian
07-20-10, 04:51
Sorry if you thought I made fun of your home town!

I did like Tampa!! But I likies the Cays and the Bahamas and Miami too!

Beauty is and always was in the eyes of the beholder!

Most haole' women here have pimps! So I stay away!

Sorry, you don't like Hawaii!

There's always Tampa!

Mello D
07-21-10, 03:50
yammer yammer yammer


You are so off base in so many ways. End of conversation.

Cosmic Kid
08-17-10, 22:04
See, my issue lately has been, I keep thinking, well, what else could I do with $200? How many cold ones and bags of chips could I buy for that same amount of cash? Bucks that get hosed in a single hour - often significantly less than an hour - in some AMP? And yeah, I do realize the provider doesn't get the entire two bills, but this doesn't count for squat from my perspective since I still be out two bills! I just can no longer justify to myself the pissing away of so much kala in such a short time period. The AMPs flat-out need to come up with some incentives, some bargains. I mean, so I've got a card from Nirvana that lets me drop the house fee of $50 after ten visits? Big frikken woop. Nah - what us guys need is some happy-hour half pricers, or half price on whatever day the AMPs traditionally slowest day of the week is, or else let some of the AMPs start promoting a $100 half hour. I know this stuff was discussed here before on this board. And plus, one or two independents were offering it, like DeeJay, way the hell and gone, out in the sticks in Waipahu. What good is that though? Need the convenience of town action. You AMP chicks reading this? Get a damned clue okay? Instead of sitting around on yer assets doing nothing while you complain about how business is slow, probly cause of the tanked economy; Get off yer asses and come up with some $100 creative options that a bunch of us less affluent mongers can take advantage of! Make everybody happy; you providers get the extra business, we get the quick pus.
I say: Mongers of the world arise (pun intended), and unite against cut-throat AMP pricing!
I rest my case. CK

Stevet09
08-18-10, 16:00
See, my issue lately has been, I keep thinking, well, what else could I do with $200? How many cold ones and bags of chips could I buy for that same amount of cash? Bucks that get hosed in a single hour - often significantly less than an hour - in some AMP? And yeah, I do realize the provider doesn't get the entire two bills, but this doesn't count for squat from my perspective since I still be out two bills! I just can no longer justify to myself the pissing away of so much kala in such a short time period. The AMPs flat-out need to come up with some incentives, some bargains. I mean, so I've got a card from Nirvana that lets me drop the house fee of $50 after ten visits? Big frikken woop. Nah - what us guys need is some happy-hour half pricers, or half price on whatever day the AMPs traditionally slowest day of the week is, or else let some of the AMPs start promoting a $100 half hour. I know this stuff was discussed here before on this board. And plus, one or two independents were offering it, like DeeJay, way the hell and gone, out in the sticks in Waipahu. What good is that though? Need the convenience of town action. You AMP chicks reading this? Get a damned clue okay? Instead of sitting around on yer assets doing nothing while you complain about how business is slow, probly cause of the tanked economy; Get off yer asses and come up with some $100 creative options that a bunch of us less affluent mongers can take advantage of! Make everybody happy; you providers get the extra business, we get the quick pus.
I say: Mongers of the world arise (pun intended), and unite against cut-throat AMP pricing!
I rest my case. CK

Or at least go back to the 150 all inclusive FS like the prices right before nowadays. When did it get to be 200 anyway? I can't remember.

Ducky007
08-18-10, 16:40
When did it get to be 200 anyway? I can't remember.Right about the service went to hell!! Kala up service down:mad:

Wn5912
08-18-10, 18:25
Bro, I am not being critical, but you tipping too much for HE. Been with both and they are good with .60 tip, can get by with probably .50. We just don't want to spoil them and fuel their expectations and they raise their rates.


I've only seen two girls;

Nan at Thai Hawaiian - .6 house .8 HE (hand job only, she told me not to tell anyone)
Tanya at Best Thai a few months ago - .6 house .8 HE (hand job only)

Both attractive (IMO) liked Nan better.

Waikiki808
08-21-10, 06:38
I noticed that in Seattle the total fee for FS is 140.00!

In seattle, I could go twice to amps, mt's and practically get the next one free if you went by Honolulu rates!

Yeah, we are really high!

We also don't have a lot of options for service time. SF and Seattle/Portland have the option of 15 min, 30 min, and 1 hr sessions in addition to multiple hours. They tend to run $1, $1.5, and $2 respectively. It would be interesting to see it implemented here; but in all honesty I don't know how it would affect how much they earn so I can see why they'd be reluctant to.

Cosmic Kid
11-20-10, 02:16
Honolulu AMPs should seriously consider instituting the hundred dollar half-hour quickie option. House gets. 25, provider gets. 75 This just might bring in a lot more business for them. Substantially improve their profit margin by volume. At that price, I know I'd be showing up on their doorsteps a lot more than I have been. And I can definitely get the job done in a half hour, no problem. Like, afternoon delights, lunch break style, you know? What do you guys think?Looks like possibly a few of the ms may have taken my idea to heart eh?

Redneck 1
09-29-14, 09:26
Although I've never been with the "Hellokitty1990" provider from Waianae, who has mostly unfavorable reviews, I've noticed the rise in her prices since her first advertisement earlier this year. Her first ad offered a BJ for $50, half an hour (presumably FS) for $80, an hour for $150, and two hours for $220. Now her advertised prices are $150 for half an hour, $200 for an hour, and $250 for two hours. "Outcalls only in Waianae area". It would seem that a provider with mostly unfavorable reviews should lower her advertised prices to try to attract business, but maybe that's too logical, LOL.

LilAbner
09-29-14, 13:47
Although I've never been with the "Hellokitty1990" provider from Waianae, who has mostly unfavorable reviews, I've noticed the rise in her prices since her first advertisement earlier this year. Her first ad offered a BJ for $50, half an hour (presumably FS) for $80, an hour for $150, and two hours for $220. Now her advertised prices are $150 for half an hour, $200 for an hour, and $250 for two hours. "Outcalls only in Waianae area". It would seem that a provider with mostly unfavorable reviews should lower her advertised prices to try to attract business, but maybe that's too logical, LOL.Hello Kitty is a "few French fries short in a Happy Meal" not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. Very childlike I think some one is giving her advice how to charge. Unless she changed from a couple of months ago you will not get you're money worth. She will say she will do everything but when you try to get her to do it she'll gives an excuse. Same with DS. She will lay there like a dead fish no reaction not even fake moans. Once We settled for 2 hours for $$. Ended up with 20 min of BB fucking loose pussy for someone 21 years old. Did not like to give a bb BJ. Gave it a few licks then a little sucking before f**king. Did not like DATY. This was at my friend's place in Waianae near Tamura's where I picked her up. Ended 40 minutes telling her to leave because of her reneging on our deal. Gave her $.

So unless she changed beware.

Hornysamowen
09-29-14, 17:28
Although I've never been with the "Hellokitty1990" provider from Waianae, who has mostly unfavorable reviews, I've noticed the rise in her prices since her first advertisement earlier this year. Her first ad offered a BJ for $50, half an hour (presumably FS) for $80, an hour for $150, and two hours for $220. Now her advertised prices are $150 for half an hour, $200 for an hour, and $250 for two hours. "Outcalls only in Waianae area". It would seem that a provider with mostly unfavorable reviews should lower her advertised prices to try to attract business, but maybe that's too logical, LOL.Holy crap, this thread has been dormant for four years! From the last post till today. I don't think the last posters are even active on this forum anymore. Good luck with her if she think she can get that on the west coast.

Cronus 1
09-29-14, 22:22
Hello Kitty is a "few French fries short in a Happy Meal" not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. Very childlike I think some one is giving her advice how to charge. Unless she changed from a couple of months ago you will not get you're money worth. She will say she will do everything but when you try to get her to do it she'll gives an excuse. Same with DS. She will lay there like a dead fish no reaction not even fake moans. Once We settled for 2 hours for $$. Ended up with 20 min of BB fucking loose pussy for someone 21 years old. Did not like to give a bb BJ. Gave it a few licks then a little sucking before f**king. Did not like DATY. This was at my friend's place in Waianae near Tamura's where I picked her up. Ended 40 minutes telling her to leave because of her reneging on our deal. Gave her $.

So unless she changed beware.I fully agree with everything LilAbner said. Hello Kitty a.K.a. Jona definitely has an intellectual disability (mentally retarded) and I'm not saying that to be disrespectful, but just being honest. She had a breakdown and threw a bit of a tantrum because I wouldn't let her watch some silly Disney cartoon! Very childlike. When we finally got to the action, her service really sucked. It was so bad that I didn't even attempt to finish as I knew she would not deliver as promised. I think I had her leave my place after about 15 minutes or so. Not to mention, her body odor was pretty bad. I'm not sure how she expects to get $200 from anyone. When I saw her, she was advertising on CL and offering service at $100 per hour and she isn't even worth that. I would actually be willing to pay her that much to NOT advertise and to stop offering services because she is the worst provider I've ever seen. Sex with her made me want to cry in a bad way, haha.

Sam1229
09-29-14, 22:39
Still looking for long nipples got any tips.

RickJames808
09-30-14, 13:57
If you absolutely must have some long / fat nipples see Ivy at VIP. She has a lovely face and hot body with great tits. SWB is the term. On the other hand 4 times out of 5 fucking her is like fucking a blowup doll with a pulse. She comes alive during the act but usually the foreplay is heavily scripted. Again if it's nipples you seek I don't think you'll find a more magnificent pair than the pair that adorns Ivy's tits. YMMV like a mutha.

RJ.


Still looking for long nipples got any tips.

RadioHazard
09-30-14, 15:24
I agree with Mr James. Ivy has some damn nice boobs and hot looks IMHO one of the hottest out there too bad her service is weak.

I could be off on this but I think donna at Tokyo had some big nips?


If you absolutely must have some long / fat nipples see Ivy at VIP. She has a lovely face and hot body with great tits. SWB is the term. On the other hand 4 times out of 5 fucking her is like fucking a blowup doll with a pulse. She comes alive during the act but usually the foreplay is heavily scripted. Again if it's nipples you seek I don't think you'll find a more magnificent pair than the pair that adorns Ivy's tits. YMMV like a mutha.

RJ.

Miri Kitani
10-08-14, 07:37
Although I've never been with the "Hellokitty1990" provider from Waianae, who has mostly unfavorable reviews, I've noticed the rise in her prices since her first advertisement earlier this year. Her first ad offered a BJ for $50, half an hour (presumably FS) for $80, an hour for $150, and two hours for $220. Now her advertised prices are $150 for half an hour, $200 for an hour, and $250 for two hours. "Outcalls only in Waianae area". It would seem that a provider with mostly unfavorable reviews should lower her advertised prices to try to attract business, but maybe that's too logical, LOL.Has anyone else noticed that in the past few months, the prices on the Backpage that the providers have have been quoting have been slowly creeping up. Are we at a tipping point and is this going to be the new reality?

Redneck 1
10-07-18, 19:54
So, I've said this before and I'll say this again, the rates in Honolulu, especially the AMP rates, are severely undervalued. On the other hand, mongers with a different perspective might conclude that Honolulu prostitution rates are not "undervalued," but rather that prostitution rates in some higher-priced mainland cities are "overvalued" (smile).

Drken
10-08-18, 09:01
On the other hand, mongers with a different perspective might conclude that Honolulu prostitution rates are not "undervalued," but rather that prostitution rates in some higher-priced mainland cities are "overvalued" (smile).I just came from LA where I've been seeing many regulars, I would say the prices on HI is slightly better than the mainland, but the girls are prettier in LA.

Case in point, she is one of my regulars, $$ for HH, $$$ for H. GFE.

You can find her under her handle: Jessicataylor on Humaniplex.com.

Drken
10-08-18, 11:38
I just came from LA where I've been seeing many regulars, I would say the prices on HI is slightly better than the mainland, but the girls are prettier in LA.

Case in point, she is one of my regulars, $$ for HH, $$$ for H. GFE.

You can find her under her handle: Jessicataylor on Humaniplex.com.Here are a few more of my ATFs, I'll try to invite some of them to visit HI.

ExitOnly
10-08-18, 12:17
I just came from LA where I've been seeing many regulars, I would say the prices on HI is slightly better than the mainland, but the girls are prettier in LA.

Case in point, she is one of my regulars, $$ for HH, $$$ for H. GFE.

You can find her under her handle: Jessicataylor on Humaniplex.com.How's about services. Does she at least BBBJ and LFK or all covered?

Drken
10-08-18, 13:51
How's about services. Does she at least BBBJ and LFK or all covered?They all dressed to kill, all were either GFE or PSE, BBBJ and CFS, a few of my regulars allowed BBFS / CIP / CIA / CIM.

She stayed with me on and off for a year.

DangerBoy
10-09-18, 08:31
On the other hand, mongers with a different perspective might conclude that Honolulu prostitution rates are not "undervalued," but rather that prostitution rates in some higher-priced mainland cities are "overvalued" (smile).True. Price is what you pay, value is what you get. And if you like what's in the AMPs here, you're getting great value.

I've made my preferences clear so I'm pretty meh about most of the girls in the AMPs.

Not to be argumentative, as I enjoy your insights and find your posts informative, but here's my thoughts on this.

Every so often people complain on the board why the young Asian girls don't come here. I'd say that it's because of the rates that so many of those same guys want to hold so zealously. Those young Asian girls are making much more than the going "standard damage" is in Hawaii. And think about it guys here get upset if they don't get DFK, BBBJ, BLS and hell, in many cases, BBFS for 1. 5 + HF.

Meanwhile, these younger Asian chicks are making more money in big cities doing less and fucking guys who aren't looking to jackhammer them for an hour.

So if you're someone saying you want younger chicks in the AMPs, or you just want more new faces, maybe you should rethink how much that "standard damage" is worth.

HiPickle
10-09-18, 12:07
I just came from LA where I've been seeing many regulars, I would say the prices on HI is slightly better than the mainland, but the girls are prettier in LA.

Case in point, she is one of my regulars, $$ for HH, $$$ for H. GFE.

You can find her under her handle: Jessicataylor on Humaniplex.com."Prettier", is too subjective. Personally, the non Asian girls you show in those pics do nothing for me. It's just personal preference. So, for some Mongers, like me, Hawaii prices and selection is hard to beat. I've attempted to monger in other major cities in the USA and it has sucked big time in comparison.

Bikini
10-09-18, 12:39
True. Price is what you pay, value is what you get. And if you like what's in the AMPs here, you're getting great value.

I've made my preferences clear so I'm pretty meh about most of the girls in the AMPs.

Not to be argumentative, as I enjoy your insights and find your posts informative, but here's my thoughts on this.

Every so often people complain on the board why the young Asian girls don't come here. I'd say that it's because of the rates that so many of those same guys want to hold so zealously. Those young Asian girls are making much more than the going "standard damage" is in Hawaii. And think about it guys here get upset if they don't get DFK, BBBJ, BLS and hell, in many cases, BBFS for 1. 5 + HF.

Meanwhile, these younger Asian chicks are making more money in big cities doing less and fucking guys who aren't looking to jackhammer them for an hour.

So if you're someone saying you want younger chicks in the AMPs, or you just want more new faces, maybe you should rethink how much that "standard damage" is worth.I have never followed the standard fees advocated on this forum. I pay what I think the girl is worth. I have no problem going to Sanho and giving the cutie two bills in advance. If she wants another bill for daty, she gets it.

KublaiKhan
10-09-18, 12:43
True. Price is what you pay, value is what you get. And if you like what's in the AMPs here, you're getting great value.

I've made my preferences clear so I'm pretty meh about most of the girls in the AMPs.

Not to be argumentative, as I enjoy your insights and find your posts informative, but here's my thoughts on this.

Every so often people complain on the board why the young Asian girls don't come here. I'd say that it's because of the rates that so many of those same guys want to hold so zealously. Those young Asian girls are making much more than the going "standard damage" is in Hawaii. And think about it guys here get upset if they don't get DFK, BBBJ, BLS and hell, in many cases, BBFS for 1. 5 + HF.

Meanwhile, these younger Asian chicks are making more money in big cities doing less and fucking guys who aren't looking to jackhammer them for an hour.

So if you're someone saying you want younger chicks in the AMPs, or you just want more new faces, maybe you should rethink how much that "standard damage" is worth.I discovered a lot of "companions" use twitter now to promote themselves. It's wildly entertaining when they put up videos and enticing images of themselves (twitter has far less restrictions than Instagram, which they also use quite extensively).

The prices they charge are quite high. They start at 400, but usually these escorts are high end (or consider themselves high end), so many ask for 800 or higher. They are usually based in places like New York, LA, London, or Hong Kong, but travel extensively. They don't travel to Hawaii much because our market is small, and the amount of guys wiling (or able to pay those amounts) is also small. I often join in the message replies and encourage them to visit Waikiki. Of course I would be hard pressed to afford 1000 per hour that some of the really hot ones command.

I wish we had more of a mix of AMPs and escorts in Hawaii. Our going rates just aren't enough to attract the best and the brightest. I appreciate the 200 AMP girls, but realize it limits what we can attract to our market.

DangerBoy
10-09-18, 21:00
"Prettier", is too subjective. Personally, the non Asian girls you show in those pics do nothing for me. It's just personal preference. So, for some Mongers, like me, Hawaii prices and selection is hard to beat. I've attempted to monger in other major cities in the USA and it has sucked big time in comparison.You're a lucky man, and I say that with all sincerity and no sarcasm.

In my case, a vacation to the Czech Republic or some other former Eastern European Soviet satellite state would be ideal. Blonde white girls willing to do filthy, disgusting things for cheap.

Drken
10-10-18, 21:41
You're a lucky man, and I say that with all sincerity and no sarcasm.

In my case, a vacation to the Czech Republic or some other former Eastern European Soviet satellite state would be ideal. Blonde white girls willing to do filthy, disgusting things for cheap.Now you're talking DB, I had a long time Czech girl who was a former model. I've been on some EU sites where Czech porn stars like Angel Dark and Zafira are available in Prague.

DangerBoy
10-10-18, 22:52
I discovered a lot of "companions" use twitter now to promote themselves. It's wildly entertaining when they put up videos and enticing images of themselves (twitter has far less restrictions than Instagram, which they also use quite extensively).

The prices they charge are quite high. They start at 400, but usually these escorts are high end (or consider themselves high end), so many ask for 800 or higher. They are usually based in places like New York, LA, London, or Hong Kong, but travel extensively. They don't travel to Hawaii much because our market is small, and the amount of guys wiling (or able to pay those amounts) is also small. I often join in the message replies and encourage them to visit Waikiki. Of course I would be hard pressed to afford 1000 per hour that some of the really hot ones command.

I wish we had more of a mix of AMPs and escorts in Hawaii. Our going rates just aren't enough to attract the best and the brightest. I appreciate the 200 AMP girls, but realize it limits what we can attract to our market.Some thoughts about pricing in LA: When I started seriously mongering in LA it was in the early 2000's. The going rate for a girl that was fairly new, early 20's, GFE (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS) was about $250 an hour. It hung around there for about 10 years. I lived in the valley, so it wasn't uncommon to see porn stars listed. Back then the C-listers would ask for about $300/ hr, the B-listers maybe $400 to $500. The contract girls and A-list porn stars would command $800 easy, with $1,000 being not uncommon. Older, retired porn stars also worked (Bunny Bleu and Tammy Monroe come to mind.) You also had models and real C-list or D-list actresses as well who usually went for $400+.

Sometime around the early 2010's the prices started going up. The floor was raised to $300, though girls asking $350 or even $400 wasn't uncommon. Porn stars started being a little more UTR about their business for whatever reason (I heard there was a stigma among some agents about girls that hooked on the side, but considering almost all the girls in porn hook, it's a pretty dumb stigma), so their floor went up to $400 to $500. Models and mainstream actresses went up to $600/ hr, at least.

Wulfen
10-11-18, 03:07
Not saying I have experience there, and yeh the pricing is a factor, but a glance at the available selection between LA EROS and our Honolulu options shows (IMHO) a pretty obvious difference of independent provider quality and quantity.

https://www.eros.com/hawaii/sections/hawaii_escorts.htm

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/los_angeles_escorts.htm

Definitely not interested in living in LA, but I envy the monger who is flush and free enough to enjoy the premium end of that market's offerings.

-W.


"Prettier", is too subjective. Personally, the non Asian girls you show in those pics do nothing for me. It's just personal preference. So, for some Mongers, like me, Hawaii prices and selection is hard to beat. I've attempted to monger in other major cities in the USA and it has sucked big time in comparison.

Drken
10-11-18, 10:57
Not saying I have experience there, and yeh the pricing is a factor, but a glance at the available selection between LA EROS and our Honolulu options shows (IMHO) a pretty obvious difference of independent provider quality and quantity.

https://www.eros.com/hawaii/sections/hawaii_escorts.htm

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/los_angeles_escorts.htm

Definitely not interested in living in LA, but I envy the monger who is flush and free enough to enjoy the premium end of that market's offerings.

-W.The prices one sees on sites like Eros are set at a premium, think Lexus verses Toyota. Cars made by the same manufacturer but are targeted for different markets.

I know providers who are on Hx with prices comparable to HI, and their posted prices are 2-3 X on Eros because they can. It's all marketing, so shop smart.

HiPickle
10-11-18, 13:27
Not saying I have experience there, and yeh the pricing is a factor, but a glance at the available selection between LA EROS and our Honolulu options shows (IMHO) a pretty obvious difference of independent provider quality and quantity.

https://www.eros.com/hawaii/sections/hawaii_escorts.htm

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/los_angeles_escorts.htm

Definitely not interested in living in LA, but I envy the monger who is flush and free enough to enjoy the premium end of that market's offerings.

-W.The size of LA and draw from the surrounding area equates to a huge selection of every flavor and level of provider. I don't think huge is even an adequate word. Humongous? 😜 However, considering our small size in comparison, not to mention, being on an Island, the selection and cost of Asian women is awsome when you prefer only Asian women. That would be me. I'm in paradise. 😊.

Redneck 1
10-11-18, 15:13
The size of LA and draw from the surrounding area equates to a huge selection of every flavor and level of provider. I don't think huge is even an adequate word. Humongous? 😜 However, considering our small size in comparison, not to mention, being on an Island, the selection and cost of Asian women is awesome when you prefer only Asian women. That would be me. I'm in paradise. 😊.Yes, the population of the Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim MSA is about 13,300,000, and if the Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario MSA is added, the total population of the area is about 17,900,000. By contrast, the population of Oahu is about 990,000, and the total population of Hawaii is about 1,420,000. (All figures from 2017.) So it seems that comparatively, Honolulu does okay. Personally, regardless of race and ethnicity, I usually don't have much attraction to the very high-priced providers and their various rules anyway.

DangerBoy
10-11-18, 16:17
The size of LA and draw from the surrounding area equates to a huge selection of every flavor and level of provider. I don't think huge is even an adequate word. Humongous? 😜 However, considering our small size in comparison, not to mention, being on an Island, the selection and cost of Asian women is awsome when you prefer only Asian women. That would be me. I'm in paradise. 😊.One other thing you have to remember about LA is that being good-looking is like being smart at MIT. It's not remarkable.

Everyone homecoming queen who got the role of Juliet in their high school production of Romeo and Juliet, every girl who just a little taller and skinner than everyone else in their hometown goes to LA to be an actress or a model. You know those pictures you see and you think there's no way this girl is for real because the pics look way too professional? They're real in LA.

So yeah, if you go through Eros you see a lot of girls who are 8's, 9's and 10's. But if you set your sights a little lower, prices get a little more reasonable (again, seems the floor for GFE is $300/ hr) or if you're really lucky, you'll find some hot new girl who doesn't know what she should be charging.

Drken
10-11-18, 17:57
One other thing you have to remember about LA is that being good-looking is like being smart at MIT. It's not remarkable.

Everyone homecoming queen who got the role of Juliet in their high school production of Romeo and Juliet, every girl who just a little taller and skinner than everyone else in their hometown goes to LA to be an actress or a model. You know those pictures you see and you think there's no way this girl is for real because the pics look way too professional? They're real in LA.

So yeah, if you go through Eros you see a lot of girls who are 8's, 9's and 10's. But if you set your sights a little lower, prices get a little more reasonable (again, seems the floor for GFE is $300/ hr) or if you're really lucky, you'll find some hot new girl who doesn't know what she should be charging.You are spot on, reminds me of a line from a book about LA LA land - "the lookers are the hookers".

Waikiki11
10-11-18, 23:41
Great value is right. If you take inflation into consideration, you are winning in HI price-wise. In general, 2 large bills these days have less purchasing power than it did 10 years ago.

Memahu
10-13-18, 04:33
The prices are the market amount because the providers know their actual age and how much makeup needed to look fuckable.

Wulfen
10-15-18, 08:00
Wonder if seeing the two 'body slide' providers from Europe (who then moved on to chi chis) put the (bad) upselling idea of the $$ HJ into the mind of the providers at this shop? My last massage there with slow, sensual massage with over clothes roaming / HE, I was tipping .6 over house for 90 min, and she looks at it and says 'more?' Added another .1, which earned me stink eye, but that's one of the reasons I refused Giselle's offer on previous visit. Yeh I know relative to mainland prices, we have it good here. Why not keep it that way without adding yet another thing to, the inflated 'price of paradise?

-W.


Mint is fricken hot! Real picture. Young pretty Thai girl with great tits. Avg massage. Wanted 200 for topless massage. I offered 200 for FS. No deal. No do FS. I offered 200 for oral. No deal. Told her 120 standard price for HE. Negotiated 160 for topless finish with OTP roaming and tit play. Try not to let myself get upsold but little head was in charge that day. LOL. Cool chick. Probably repeat to see if more available.

KidFarian
01-13-19, 13:18
Some thoughts about pricing in LA: When I started seriously mongering in LA it was in the early 2000's. The going rate for a girl that was fairly new, early 20's, GFE (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS) was about $250 an hour. It hung around there for about 10 years. I lived in the valley, so it wasn't uncommon to see porn stars listed. Back then the C-listers would ask for about $300/ hr, the B-listers maybe $400 to $500. The contract girls and A-list porn stars would command $800 easy, with $1,000 being not uncommon. Older, retired porn stars also worked (Bunny Bleu and Tammy Monroe come to mind.) You also had models and real C-list or D-list actresses as well who usually went for $400+.

Sometime around the early 2010's the prices started going up. The floor was raised to $300, though girls asking $350 or even $400 wasn't uncommon. Porn stars started being a little more UTR about their business for whatever reason (I heard there was a stigma among some agents about girls that hooked on the side, but considering almost all the girls in porn hook, it's a pretty dumb stigma), so their floor went up to $400 to $500. Models and mainstream actresses went up to $600/ hr, at least.Thanks for this description. It looks like the prices are rising here too especially at ChiChi's. I'm not opposed to paying for quality but the girls just aren't raising the game as fast as they are raising the prices. Just my thoughts. TheKid.

Dr Gyno
01-13-19, 18:43
This is just my opinion. Been a long time hobbyist since the days of "TROPICAL" (a Massage parlor) when the rates were just $30.00 and later they raised it to $32.00. Any hobbyist out there remember that? The rates on the streets were less if you cruise the streets and picked a stray up for action in the car. Those days the parlors were loaded with local babes trying to earn a few bucks. Now the MP are bring in korean and Chinese imports and the action has improved with anal, BBFS, and other good kinky stuff that local chicks often do not care to perform. I recommend all newbees to never pay more that two bills maximum for full service. If mongers keep paying more than that, we are screwing ourselves and future mongers in general. Two bills is a lot of money to pay. Money is hard to come by for the average joe in Hawaii who really work for a living.

In the old days there was no computer and cell phones but only newspaper ads. Today we have the internet and can find pussy all over the place at Massage Parlors, relaxation places and private homes. Its just doing the research and figuring out which provider is worth it. Some providers are highly rated because she pays the shills to write stellar reports to drum up businese. Never pay more than $$ for FS. HJ should be less. Never let the provider take advantage of you if you are a newbee.

One provider told me that a lot of the newbees would fire off their load as soon as they see their pussy. After that it is good bye and client gets shorted time. Also, If you tell them that you are leaving the islands, then you will be shorted time again because she knows you are not coming back. I use to get the FULL hour and now I am beginning to notice that MP cut their time to 50 minutes and some are down to 45 minutes. Shorting time is beginning to happen more often these days.

Conclusion and opinion: Walk if they want money up front. Never pay more than $$. Write negative reports if they screw you over on their performance. Read reports and take it with a grain of salt, its YMMV. $$ should be for one full hour of premium service and tip accordingly if it worth it. Don't worry about LE, they go to the MP for action too from what one provider told me.

Mundeok9
12-06-20, 07:31
Vera has relocated to another shop. And YES, it is still in CC. CURIOSITY, got me to go and check it out, she has always been good to me customer service wise.

Glad I did, whether it was my lucky day or good timing.

Met her new girl Thicha. Suggested 90 minutes. OK! Her massage was strong, walk on back, lots of Thai stretching. Best I've had in a long time. . the kind you get from a Legit shop.

Lots of oil on the back, sensual rub, slow and smooth, knows how and where to get the blood flowing. Hot towel wipe down.

Flipped, more rubbing and stretching, facial, chest, and then the groin. Knows what to do to make a happy ending.

She has had excellent training in providing a needed service. No upsell, no talk of money, no short of time.

Showing respect, I didn't ask for extra extras, OTCR only, although seeing her naked body would have been a plus.

Service /9 , massage /9 , attitude /9, looks /7-8, shop and room /8 (still under construction).

I tried 3 shops before getting an appointment here. All were busy WTF.

Left very happy worth a repeat if she doesn't get busy. YMMV. ENJOY.What did you pay for your 90 minutes massage with happy ending? Total price?

JasOfOahu
12-06-20, 09:44
This is just my opinion. Been a long time hobbyist since the days of "TROPICAL" (a Massage parlor) when the rates were just $30.00 and later they raised it to $32.00. Any hobbyist out there remember that? The rates on the streets were less if you cruise the streets and picked a stray up for action in the car. Those days the parlors were loaded with local babes trying to earn a few bucks. Now the MP are bring in korean and Chinese imports and the action has improved with anal, BBFS, and other good kinky stuff that local chicks often do not care to perform. I recommend all newbees to never pay more that two bills maximum for full service. If mongers keep paying more than that, we are screwing ourselves and future mongers in general. Two bills is a lot of money to pay. Money is hard to come by for the average joe in Hawaii who really work for a living.

In the old days there was no computer and cell phones but only newspaper ads. Today we have the internet and can find pussy all over the place at Massage Parlors, relaxation places and private homes. Its just doing the research and figuring out which provider is worth it. Some providers are highly rated because she pays the shills to write stellar reports to drum up businese. Never pay more than $$ for FS. HJ should be less. Never let the provider take advantage of you if you are a newbee.

One provider told me that a lot of the newbees would fire off their load as soon as they see their pussy. After that it is good bye and client gets shorted time. Also, If you tell them that you are leaving the islands, then you will be shorted time again because she knows you are not coming back. I use to get the FULL hour and now I am beginning to notice that MP cut their time to 50 minutes and some are down to 45 minutes. Shorting time is beginning to happen more often these days..Everyone is entitled to their own opinions now. But look around for two bills a hour Hawaii doesn't have many top providers left. In the mainland AMP'S are currently charging 280 a hour total and the cost of living is cheaper. I think now with all the places paying more on the mainland that Hawaii isn't on the top of the list of places providers want to visit. Keeping the prices lower than the mainland (knowing everything costs more in Hawaii) will not bring in new talent and it will make local talent leave too and not come back. This is my opinion but its kinda already happening too.

EmSee
12-06-20, 18:42
What did you pay for your 90 minutes massage with happy ending? Total price?I go the 90 min price plus 60.
Since 60 min is usually at one20 I just do the math.

Prudential808
12-06-20, 19:16
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions now. But look around for two bills a hour Hawaii doesn't have many top providers left. In the mainland AMP'S are currently charging 280 a hour total and the cost of living is cheaper. I think now with all the places paying more on the mainland that Hawaii isn't on the top of the list of places providers want to visit. Keeping the prices lower than the mainland (knowing everything costs more in Hawaii) will not bring in new talent and it will make local talent leave too and not come back. This is my opinion but its kinda already happening too.A few from tokyo, ume already in california. Then california lockdown from today, they said they would go to east or south. Not come back to hawaii.

Me Cook
12-06-20, 19:38
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions now. But look around for two bills a hour Hawaii doesn't have many top providers left. In the mainland AMP'S are currently charging 280 a hour total and the cost of living is cheaper. I think now with all the places paying more on the mainland that Hawaii isn't on the top of the list of places providers want to visit. Keeping the prices lower than the mainland (knowing everything costs more in Hawaii) will not bring in new talent and it will make local talent leave too and not come back. This is my opinion but its kinda already happening too.I try to be selective with my money and girls to see. An expected tip to a girl in my opinion no longer a tip and is a fee for the girl. If she checks all the boxes and provides excellent looks, service, attitude, I will pay well above what she is expecting to get. I do that to reward both services rendered and ensure that she might be excited to see me when I repeat.

I have no reason to give more than a standard tip to the women that I have no reason to see again because of poor attitude, looks, or service. I don't give heavy tips to the girls that I am still deciding on with as well.

So women that have tattooed breasts and are not spinners I will avoid seeing them. This way I won't be disappointed.

NevaEnuf
12-06-20, 20:39
What did you pay for your 90 minutes massage with happy ending? Total price?Because I had a 90 minute real professional, enjoyable massage, not the usual Rub, her service is better.

Hf. 90 + tip. 20 +sensual HJ. 60 + . 10 because I never had a $10 for Change. Total $. 8.

Plus she never asked for fees up front or demanded more like some have done. I want to see her again, may be get more next time. YMMV.

JasOfOahu
12-08-20, 01:50
I try to be selective with my money and girls to see. An expected tip to a girl in my opinion no longer a tip and is a fee for the girl. If she checks all the boxes and provides excellent looks, service, attitude, I will pay well above what she is expecting to get. I do that to reward both services rendered and ensure that she might be excited to see me when I repeat.

I have no reason to give more than a standard tip to the women that I have no reason to see again because of poor attitude, looks, or service. I don't give heavy tips to the girls that I am still deciding on with as well.

So women that have tattooed breasts and are not spinners I will avoid seeing them. This way I won't be disappointed.I agree. This way no one will be disappointed. Nothing worst than being in a session without emotion or one that just don't feel right LOL I totally agree with you on tipping a provider that makes you happy. Hopefully Hawaii will still be a desirable place to visit and work but it don't look too good as of now.

DrMajikLuv69
12-08-20, 23:11
I try to be selective with my money and girls to see. An expected tip to a girl in my opinion no longer a tip and is a fee for the girl. If she checks all the boxes and provides excellent looks, service, attitude, I will pay well above what she is expecting to get. I do that to reward both services rendered and ensure that she might be excited to see me when I repeat.

I have no reason to give more than a standard tip to the women that I have no reason to see again because of poor attitude, looks, or service. I don't give heavy tips to the girls that I am still deciding on with as well.

So women that have tattooed breasts and are not spinners I will avoid seeing them. This way I won't be disappointed.Yes I concur with your reasons and rationale regarding tip. I also agree especially with your point you made in your third paragraph, ". Tattooed breasts and are not spinners I will avoid. "!

JasOfOahu
12-09-20, 09:18
Isn't on the top of my to do list anymore. I have no plans anytime soon to visit I was simply saying that the prices in Hawaii even keep girls with tattoos on their chests out so if you want better quality. I'm not sure it can happen considering prices are more in the mainland and easier clients. Hawaii is a far flight from everywhere so its not like its easy to get there either. I'm just saying. Don't get mad at me. These are just facts I'm putting out there.

Loveasianhi
12-19-21, 20:47
Just my observation on rates creeping up. Sunflower and the one that Hitomi advertises are $$ for 1/2 hour and $$$ for hour. Osaka $210 for about 45 min. Misa $$ for way less than an hour.

I'd rather visit places that are at the standard $$ for an hour.

MegaRat
12-20-21, 00:02
Just my observation on rates creeping up. Sunflower and the one that Hitomi advertises are $$ for 1/2 hour and $$$ for hour. Osaka $210 for about 45 min. Misa $$ for way less than an hour.

I'd rather visit places that are at the standard $$ for an hour.The reason why it was mentioned here not to overtip or overpay for services, as that just makes the prices creep up.

Also the reason why it's not always good to support Sunflower's new higher rates so that type of stuff doesn't become the new norm.

A while back there was a place called Chichi's in the blue star area. They charged around 3 benjamins for being able to bang young full American girls. Where is it now. Gone!

And for the providers here, if they don't like the pay they'll have to move along. They do end up being replaced anyway with new ones, even if it is a short while.

Honolulu Yobo
12-20-21, 02:21
Was Tropical massage on King st?

I used to go to Riches, Fuji's, Central, and the one above Exotic Nights. They used to be $45/45 min; then it went to $50.


This is just my opinion. Been a long time hobbyist since the days of "TROPICAL" (a Massage parlor) when the rates were just $30.00 and later they raised it to $32.00. Any hobbyist out there remember that? The rates on the streets were less if you cruise the streets and picked a stray up for action in the car. Those days the parlors were loaded with local babes trying to earn a few bucks. Now the MP are bring in korean and Chinese imports and the action has improved with anal, BBFS, and other good kinky stuff that local chicks often do not care to perform. I recommend all newbees to never pay more that two bills maximum for full service. If mongers keep paying more than that, we are screwing ourselves and future mongers in general. Two bills is a lot of money to pay. Money is hard to come by for the average joe in Hawaii who really work for a living.

In the old days there was no computer and cell phones but only newspaper ads. Today we have the internet and can find pussy all over the place at Massage Parlors, relaxation places and private homes. Its just doing the research and figuring out which provider is worth it. Some providers are highly rated because she pays the shills to write stellar reports to drum up businese. Never pay more than $$ for FS. HJ should be less. Never let the provider take advantage of you if you are a newbee.

One provider told me that a lot of the newbees would fire off their load as soon as they see their pussy. After that it is good bye and client gets shorted time. Also, If you tell them that you are leaving the islands, then you will be shorted time again because she knows you are not coming back. I use to get the FULL hour and now I am beginning to notice that MP cut their time to 50 minutes and some are down to 45 minutes. Shorting time is beginning to happen more often these days.

Conclusion and opinion: Walk if they want money up front. Never pay more than $$. Write negative reports if they screw you over on their performance. Read reports and take it with a grain of salt, its YMMV. $$ should be for one full hour of premium service and tip accordingly if it worth it. Don't worry about LE, they go to the MP for action too from what one provider told me..

Affairs
12-20-21, 12:59
Was Tropical massage on King st?

I used to go to Riches, Fuji's, Central, and the one above Exotic Nights. They used to be $45/45 min; then it went to $50.Didn't think any of you guys still around, you and doc Gyno.

Central and Richie use to be our club house.


God Good Old Days.

DangerBoy
12-20-21, 16:12
On one hand, you guys always ***** and moan why there's no young girls in the AMPs. Why there's always the same faces in the AMPs.

On the hand, you're saying any girl working in Hawaii, not just AMP workers, should be over the moon to get $200. They should also DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP and anal would be good too.

$250/ hr got you GFE in LA when I first started hobbying hard there in the early 2000's. The going rate there for GFE with any provider that's decent looking there is about $350 to $400/ hr now and that’s if you shop around. FS is more likely at that price point.

Let's say you're a young hot Asian chick willing to fuck for money. Hell, you're a good looking Asian woman in their late 20's to 30's that's willing to fuck for money. The fact that those circumstances have aligned is rare enough to begin with. Are you going to work somewhere that's going to pay you a fraction of the rate you could command in any other city the size of Honolulu on the mainland? That's not even taking into account the cost of living here to begin with.

Maybe you think they should feel privileged to be able to just work in Hawaii. I have news for you: people who aren't from Hawaii don't love Hawaii. It's just another place. And if you're in business, you do the math.

Why would you work in Hawaii, and deal with guys who will only pay you $200 for 45 minutes, and demand they can fuck your ass and bbfscip you, when you could work in a comparable city (say, Houston) and make at least double, probably triple, for doing less? Wouldn't you? And if not, please tell your boss you're willing to take a pay cut.

Don't believe me about the rates? Go on Eros, PD or TER or even the other city listings here. I was just talking to a friend who was telling me $400 was about the going rate for FBSM (massage with HE) in Orange County right now. That's just a massage, no sex.

Right now theres some provider who was toying with the idea of coming out to Hawaii but is reading this and who's reconsidered because money. Or maybe she lives here. Maybe she's that young Asian unicorn all of you are lusting over. Oh and for all of you who are salivating over the prospect of Luxx / Nicole Doshi making a homecoming? What makes you think she's going to do it in an AMP for her old rates? She's a real porn star now and she'll charge real porn star rates, more than likely inflated because she'll be with an agency. And thats even if she comes back to Hawaii. Lots more whales in LA, Vegas and NYC.

You shouldn't worry about guys that over pay, because really, $300, $400 an hour is the normal. Not the new normal. Normal. You should worry that you guys are underpaying and that's why Hawaii will never have the kind of talent the big cities do, despite the fact that you want big city talent.




A while back there was a place called Chichi's in the blue star area. They charged around 3 benjamins for being able to bang young full American girls. Where is it now. Gone!



It closed because the owner made her money and got out of the game before the cops came down on her. Any MP thats open too long gets pinched eventually. Youre right. Gone. And smart.




And for the providers here, if they don't like the pay they'll have to move along. They do end up being replaced anyway with new ones, even if it is a short while.

New ones, meaning 50+ year old GILFs FOB from Korea and China, but not anyone on their 20s or probably even their 30s. Got it.

Lknfrpssy
12-20-21, 16:31
Oh yeah, I wish I could escape the SO and visit LA or LV. I don't mind paying $$$ here if the provider is young, pretty, gives a long BBBJ and 69. To me, the older providers who do that for $210.00 aren't worth the money.


On one hand, you guys always ***** and moan why there's no young girls in the AMPs. Why there's always the same faces in the AMPs.

On the hand, you're saying any girl working in Hawaii, not just AMP workers, should be over the moon to get $200. They should also DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP.

$250/ hr got you GFE in LA when I first started hobbying hard there in the early 2000's. The going rate there for GFE with any provider that's hard-decent looking there is about $350 to $400/ hr now.

Let's say you're a young hot Asian chick willing to fuck for money. Hell, you're a good looking Asian woman in their 20's to 30's that's willing to fuck for money. The fact that those circumstances have aligned is rare enough to begin with. Are you going to work somewhere that's going to pay you a fraction of the rate you could command in any other city the size of Honolulu on the mainland? That's not even taking into account the cost of living here to begin with.

Maybe you think they should feel privileged to be able to just work in Hawaii. I have news for you: people who aren't from Hawaii don't love Hawaii. It's just another place. And if you're in business, you do the math.

Why would you work in Hawaii, and deal with guys who will only pay you $200 for 45 minutes, and demand they can fuck your ass and bbfscip you, when you could work in a comparable city (say, Houston) and make at least double, probably triple, for doing less? Wouldn't you? And if not, please tell your boss you're willing to take a pay cut.

ExitOnly
12-20-21, 17:52
I agree. $200 is relatively low for the US. I remembered vegas was $300-$400 several years ago pre-covid but you do get the quality. I count myself lucky to have a few decent providers here that checked most if not all my boxes. As for lux / Nicole, the last time we texted years ago she said she would come back to Hawaii for vacation or photo shoot only and maybe take on a few clients. ($600 with my friend discount) But that was before she go big time so I am sure it out of my price range now if she even come back.

YoungMonger808
12-20-21, 18:09
Granted I got into the hobby after it's heyday in Hawaii but the rates are really good.

If you expect to have the young pretty girls that will actually give you a good experience you're going to have to pay for it. Some of the Vegas girls I met here honestly don't like coming here cause the guys expect too much for not enough money. Supply and demand.

AmpAddict808
12-20-21, 18:49
I agree. $200 is relatively low for the US. I remembered vegas was $300-$400 several years ago pre-covid but you do get the quality. I count myself lucky to have a few decent providers here that checked most if not all my boxes. As for lux / Nicole, the last time we texted years ago she said she would come back to Hawaii for vacation or photo shoot only and maybe take on a few clients. ($600 with my friend discount) But that was before she go big time so I am sure it out of my price range now if she even come back.I also agree. Just based on inflation alone, $1 in 2010 is now the same as $1. 27. So if you do the calculation, $200 ten years ago is now the same as over $250. On top of that, inflation this year is now over 6%. In addition to the loss of value of the dollar, inflation also affects the bottom line of providers because they have their business and every day living costs to pay too (airfare, rent, food, medical, clothing, etc.). Wishful dreaming to get top tier talent if the majority is stuck on $200. And on top of that Honolulu is a small market to begin with.

DangerBoy
12-20-21, 18:55
The longer the guys here stick to the mentality that $200 is the absolute limit that any girl should be paid for an hour of service, the more Hawaii will fade into irrelevance as someplace an escort would base herself or tour.

I want to fuck new girls. I want to fuck hot girls. Don’t you? That’s why we do this, right?

They’ll only come here if they make money. They don’t run charities. And just because this is Hawaii isn’t a reason they’ll treat this place any different.


I also agree. Just based on inflation alone, $1 in 2010 is now the same as $1. 27. So if you do the calculation, $200 ten years ago is now the same as over $250. On top of that, inflation this year is now over 6%. In addition to the loss of value of the dollar, inflation also affects the bottom line of providers because they have their business and every day living costs to pay too (airfare, rent, food, medical, clothing, etc.). Wishful dreaming to get top tier talent if the majority is stuck on $200. And on top of that Honolulu is a small market to begin with.

Craps
12-20-21, 19:52
Didn't think any of you guys still around, you and doc Gyno.

Central and Richie use to be our club house.


God Good Old Days.Stories from some seniors, central was 15 hf. 20 tip. 5 more for excellence service.

Lealea1
12-20-21, 20:05
The longer the guys here stick to the mentality that $200 is the absolute limit that any girl should be paid for an hour of service, the more Hawaii will fade into irrelevance as someplace an escort would base herself or tour.

I want to fuck new girls. I want to fuck hot girls. Dont you? Thats why we do this, right?

Theyll only come here if they make money. They dont run charities. And just because this is Hawaii isn't a reason theyll treat this place any different.Different girls have different work ethics. One of the main problems is that many girls overvalue their looks and think service is less important. Hardest working girl I ever met was also the hottest I've ever met and she charged 6 0 r 7 bills a meet. Worth every penny because she blew your mind every time to point where you were thinking about her for the next 5 days. A lot of girls just don't understand the psychology. They think they are providing a physical service when the primary service is an experience. There are pretty attractive girls here who provide a good experience for 2 bills but they are far and few between compared to the 2009 to 2018 era. Some girls have the idea that this job is easy but it is actauly a job that is hard and takes work. Some are willing to work and others think they can cruise. The scene goes thru eras. I remember 1996 thru 2002 being pretty shitty with a few exceptions then the period after that a lot of hot girls with a few dry periods. When they are all here competing with each other that's when things get hot. I mean think about walking into Sakura / Lavender in 2009 and seeing a line up of 10 super smoking hot chicks and you pick anyone of them. Million, Filipina Joy, Yuri, Kimi, Apple, Coco, and many more. That was an incredible time. Lets not forget the LEO crack down a couple years ago is what really changed the scene. Its going to take a while for that residue to go away.

Dr Gyno
12-20-21, 20:44
Was Tropical massage on King st?

I used to go to Riches, Fuji's, Central, and the one above Exotic Nights. They used to be $45/45 min; then it went to $50.Tropical was on the second floor on Halikawila street. Actually it the very near ward avenue. It was local girls who worked there. You can pay the house fee then go into the big room and chat with all the various girls. When you are ready, you ask and then they take you to the shower to wash down and take you to the room. This was a popular spot. How many of you guys remember this one? Just wondering. I am a old dude. Most of the guys I know are in the care home or dead now. Memories and I still go check out the young babes.

Aloha still poking around. Regardless of age. LOL.

Dr Gyno
12-20-21, 21:08
Stories from some seniors, central was 15 hf. 20 tip. 5 more for excellence service.I think I recall going to Central back in the days. All I recall was it was either on the second or third floor in Honolulu. I believe that was the first time I got action in the hobby. Don't recall what actually happened in the room but I remember blowing my load deep and no condom. No Koreans working then.

Since I was young, I didn't care what they look like anyway. Just get them and let loose. I lived a sheltered life back then not like now you can watch porn and learn different techniques. Back then you just try and learn from the local chicks what to do.

SpoodrikBrad1
12-21-21, 02:39
DB is absolutely right. Gone are the days where we pay $$ and expect all star services. I have a few former all stars who don't work this business anymore, or who are at least on the DL, who I still see on the regular. And I pay them $$ sometimes $$ just to keep them enticed. If we want young girls who provide a premium service, then we'd be willing to pay the going rates. It's as simple as that.

TrialnError
12-21-21, 05:00
The longer the guys here stick to the mentality that $200 is the absolute limit that any girl should be paid for an hour of service, the more Hawaii will fade into irrelevance as someplace an escort would base herself or tour.

I want to fuck new girls. I want to fuck hot girls. Dont you? Thats why we do this, right?

Theyll only come here if they make money. They dont run charities. And just because this is Hawaii isnt a reason theyll treat this place any different.Sunflower and the Thai places are already upping the prices quite a bit from the standard 200, approaching escort pricing.

Honolulu Yobo
12-21-21, 16:57
I remember that Riches had a locker that you could put your clothes in and lock it with a key on a neck chain. You could take it to the shower with you. I wish that the AMP's had that.

I also liked the ladies lounge whereyou could view the ladies through a one way glass and pick the woman of your choice. That way there was no ill feelings from the woman or the customer. You just picked the ones that were most appealing to you.

I loved seeing the haole spinner Ruby. She's the one that turned me on to rimming.

I liked when I was the first customer of the day, and felt her pussy stretching when I put my penis in her. She was an awesome lay at the time.

There are better ones now, but she was the original gold standard.


Tropical was on the second floor on Halikawila street. Actually it the very near ward avenue. It was local girls who worked there. You can pay the house fee then go into the big room and chat with all the various girls. When you are ready, you ask and then they take you to the shower to wash down and take you to the room. This was a popular spot. How many of you guys remember this one? Just wondering. I am a old dude. Most of the guys I know are in the care home or dead now. Memories and I still go check out the young babes.

Aloha still poking around. Regardless of age. LOL..

ExitOnly
12-22-21, 06:23
With all the discussion of inflation, I think the $200 OG AMP like Happiness, Osaka, Angel, Tonbo, etc. Deserve more support. They more or less have something for everyones unless you are only into 20 something.(They do have that sometimes too) They are the last of the great AMPs left after the bullshit Kaneshiro and Nadamoto persecution. (May Kaneshiro get fucked up when he goes to prison) Enjoy these places and the price while they last. And don't forget your favorite indies. When they are gone all we going to have are these $300 Chinese fuck house with rush and shitty service.

ProfessorGun69
12-22-21, 06:37
With all the discussion of inflation, I think the $200 OG AMP like Happiness, Osaka, Tabon, etc. Deserve more support. They more or less have something for everyones unless you are only into 20 something.(They do have that sometimes too) They are the last of the great AMPs left after the bullshit Kaneshiro and Nadamoto persecution. (May Kaneshiro get fucked up when he goes to prison) Enjoy these places and the price while they last. When they are gone all we going to have are these $300 Chinese fuck house with rush and shitty service.Some of the current AMP are rush service as is. The reports on Angel is 30 minutes out the door. Even Happiness had it's stints and reports in their thread about rushed service.

By The Way Where is Tabon?

Prudential808
12-22-21, 09:54
With all the discussion of inflation, I think the $200 OG AMP like Happiness, Osaka, Angel, Tonbo, etc. Deserve more support. They more or less have something for everyones unless you are only into 20 something.(They do have that sometimes too) They are the last of the great AMPs left after the bullshit Kaneshiro and Nadamoto persecution. (May Kaneshiro get fucked up when he goes to prison) Enjoy these places and the price while they last. And don't forget your favorite indies. When they are gone all we going to have are these $300 Chinese fuck house with rush and shitty service.Well. Unlike many here believe, Hawaii is nothing special to most AMP providers.

They have a lot of choices in mainland.

If she is still in 30-early 50's with well cared body, they can get job easily in mainland.

Maybe easier to many, less demanding cause most mainland system is rotation so girls don't stay in one area long (means they have no reason to do effort to make more regulars and guya have no expectation of flat fee hard service like Greek or bb).

Even grandmas can get jobs in rural area in idaho, Kentucky.

Girls here now choose Hawaii for reasons.

Some for gambling debt, but for some Hawaii is their second hometown. Some love Asian friendly culture and warm weather, less crime (some said to me, Hawaii criminals are just angels compared to mainland criminals, Hawaii cops are just cute friends once they experience mainland raid).

I thanks them. To some, both women and men including me, Hawaii is somewhere in peace to Asian immigrants in USA, and like second hometown.

But future is uncertain. My afts (stay in Hawaii more than 5 years, 10 years) say they consider leaving Hawaii. Most shops are closed and starting new business now is too risky, tight budget, stricter law, landlords hesitate.

If they leave, I can not blame.

ImBatman808
12-22-21, 16:35
Does anybody know other US cities or states that are closest to our pricing? I know ours hasn't changed for awhile, but there should be some that are cheaper, equal, or barley above ours. I saw that there was one recent poster mentioning in the Trip Planning thread that some Vegas places are close to ours.

ExitOnly
12-22-21, 19:58
By The Way Where is Tabon?Sorry, I meant Tonbo. I have had many good experience there. I am fortunate that I been getting almost / full hour service at the above places. I was bait / switch, yelled at, rushed out in 15 mins at those Chinese house several times and haven't been back since.

DangerBoy
12-22-21, 20:33
But future is uncertain. My afts (stay in Hawaii more than 5 years, 10 years) say they consider leaving Hawaii. Most shops are closed and starting new business now is too risky, tight budget, stricter law, landlords hesitate.

If they leave, I can not blame.Yeah, I don't see the AMP model as people here have known it for the past few decades lasting much longer. I will say that I was surprised that some of the shops opened up once the lockdowns lifted, as I was reasonably sure they were going to kill the AMPs and the girls would have just moved on to other states.

I'm seeing a lot more activity from Russian and Eastern European girls either touring with more regularity or flat out basing themselves here. They're indies, so you won't find them in the AMPs and I get the impression they used to base themselves out of NYC or Miami. They also won't see you at AMP rates. The going rate is about $600/ hr for them.

I'm fine with this. I like white girls more than Asians and I've been saying that the $200 + HF rate is unsustainable for a long time now. I'm used to paying more for what I want because white girls working in AMPs is rare. Never mind about getting GFE (which the Russian / Eastern Euro girls are open to).

If you really want to save the AMPs and if you really want to keep the pipeline of Asian girls coming, you've got to get used to paying more. The girls aren't in love with you, they're in love with dead presidents but I think a lot of guys get it twisted. The girls go where Benjamin goes, especially the younger ones with more options (see Luxx / Nicole Doshi).

I also don't think it's the AMPs most guys are in love with, it's the price. And if that's all they care about, those options are going to dry up soon.

DangerBoy
12-22-21, 20:51
With all the discussion of inflation, I think the $200 OG AMP like Happiness, Osaka, Angel, Tonbo, etc. Deserve more support. They more or less have something for everyones unless you are only into 20 something.(They do have that sometimes too) They are the last of the great AMPs left after the bullshit Kaneshiro and Nadamoto persecution. (May Kaneshiro get fucked up when he goes to prison) Enjoy these places and the price while they last. And don't forget your favorite indies. When they are gone all we going to have are these $300 Chinese fuck house with rush and shitty service.I completely agree that the pressure LE put on the AMPs is why we are where we are.

The shops used to operate without any hassle from LE. It was pretty rare that you ever heard of a raid. Hell, anyone else remember when Waikiki was basically an open air market for SWs?

The most you'd hear about was some sensationalized news story from one of the TV stations during sweeps (I remember specifically something one of them ran with a hidden camera at one of the AMPs that used to be where the self-storage place on Kapiolani and McCully is back in the '90's).

So yeah. If you could operate someplace without any harassment, not making as much was worth it. You don't have to worry about raids, lawyers, bail.

You can't say that now, so the equation's changed. Granted, the prosecutor's office is saying they're not going after AMPs now, but that could change tomorrow.

Darkman808
12-23-21, 05:33
Yeah, I don't see the AMP model as people here have known it for the past few decades lasting much longer. I will say that I was surprised that some of the shops opened up once the lockdowns lifted, as I was reasonably sure they were going to kill the AMPs and the girls would have just moved on to other states.

I'm seeing a lot more activity from Russian and Eastern European girls either touring with more regularity or flat out basing themselves here. They're indies, so you won't find them in the AMPs and I get the impression they used to base themselves out of NYC or Miami. They also won't see you at AMP rates. The going rate is about $600/ hr for them.

I'm fine with this. I like white girls more than Asians and I've been saying that the $200 + HF rate is unsustainable for a long time now. I'm used to paying more for what I want because white girls working in AMPs is rare. Never mind about getting GFE (which the Russian / Eastern Euro girls are open to).

If you really want to save the AMPs and if you really want to keep the pipeline of Asian girls coming, you've got to get used to paying more. The girls aren't in love with you, they're in love with dead presidents but I think a lot of guys get it twisted. The girls go where Benjamin goes, especially the younger ones with more options (see Luxx / Nicole Doshi).

I also don't think it's the AMPs most guys are in love with, it's the price. And if that's all they care about, those options are going to dry up soon.You and I have similar tastes.

I agree too that sadly, AMPs here can only run the Chinese connection model of low prices, questionable girls with fake photos in BS ads and changing names and locations constantly staying ahead of the LE. Running shops in residential neighbourhoods is a big risk I think. But the pressure from exuberant prosecutors definitely has had an impact on the AMP scene, no doubt.

AmpAddict808
12-23-21, 06:16
I completely agree that the pressure LE put on the AMPs is why we are where we are.

The shops used to operate without any hassle from LE. It was pretty rare that you ever heard of a raid. Hell, anyone else remember when Waikiki was basically an open air market for SWs?

The most you'd hear about was some sensationalized news story from one of the TV stations during sweeps (I remember specifically something one of them ran with a hidden camera at one of the AMPs that used to be where the self-storage place on Kapiolani and McCully is back in the '90's).

So yeah. If you could operate someplace without any harassment, not making as much was worth it. You don't have to worry about raids, lawyers, bail.

You can't say that now, so the equation's changed. Granted, the prosecutor's office is saying they're not going after AMPs now, but that could change tomorrow.It is surprising that AMPs didn't raise their rates to compensate for the added risk.

ExitOnly
12-23-21, 19:44
It is surprising that AMPs didn't raise their rates to compensate for the added risk.The short answer from two K mamas I spoke to was that Hawaii mongers complain so much about the $10 HF increased as it is, they afraid additional increase will loose customer. Since they can't attract new talent with low pay its just a matter of time.

Enona1
12-24-21, 01:52
The short answer from two K mamas I spoke to was that Hawaii mongers complain so much about the $10 HF increased as it is, they afraid additional increase will loose customer. Since they can't attract new talent with low pay its just a matter of time.When I started mongering I looked for the younger providers but when I first started back in the 70's in Japan I got used to the massage. It was great! Each room had a furo bath, the girl would wash you, then a good massage before the deed. Discovered the older providers followed that script. Love the massage and the older ones accept the $150 tip. I tip the ones like Paula a bit more cause of her level of service but not much more. TEHO.

JDorian
12-24-21, 06:22
When I started mongering I looked for the younger providers but when I first started back in the 70's in Japan I got used to the massage. It was great! Each room had a furo bath, the girl would wash you, then a good massage before the deed. Discovered the older providers followed that script. Love the massage and the older ones accept the $150 tip. I tip the ones like Paula a bit more cause of her level of service but not much more. TEHO.I'm unclear if in the 1970's you paid 150 in Japan or here in Hawaii. Pre-Covid Tokyo circa 2019 I went to the same soaplands in Yoshiwara and Ikebukuro, but paid roughly 40,000 to 50,000 yen. Price was dependent upon day of the week, time of day, how busy the place was, and the beauty, age, and popularity of the provider.

That's roughly 400-500 USD. If a customer wants the nuru experience he has to get the 60 minutes or more session so closer to 500. The locals can get cheaper prices, but not foreigners who speak little to no Japanese. In fact they typically added a gaijin tax paid directly to the provider for the hassle of having to provide services to a foreigner, so add 50 to 100 USD to that total. That was pre Covid. As the Japanese government has largely denied entry to anyone other than Japanese citizens or green card holders, during Covid, the sex industry companies that catered to foreigners are all but gone. Two years is a long time with zero customers so these places went back to catering to Japanese only. It will take years for there sex industry to recover, much less a willingness to see non Japanese.

My point is 50 years ago you paid 150 USD. I gained entry precovid by paying 50,000 yen (500 plus USD) for the Yoshiwara nuru FS experience. In 2021 I'm not allowed to enter Japan. When Japan relaxes it's visa restrictions, I won't bother to visit a Japanese soapland because there is nothing available to outsiders. Especially one who speaks little to no Japanese. Covid made a xenophobic sex culture far more xenophobic. Times change there and here.

My advice for hawaii mongers is if you want to see young gorgeous providers, go see visiting escorts. It's not cheap. They charge roughly 600 dollars and up per hour. 700 per hour seems to be the new trend, but 500 to 600 can be found. They don't visit us all the time, so if you find one you like, and can afford it, take the plunge. Since most of us don't have Mr. Smileys monger budget, we can't make them a regular part of our monger diet. We will have to supplement our desires with older / less expensive AMP providers. You can't have both in 2021. Youth / beauty or affordability. That's assuming Covid doesn't continue to impact AMPs and HE massage places, and LE leaves them alone.

ToniMulato
12-25-21, 23:17
I'm unclear if in the 1970's you paid 150 in Japan or here in Hawaii. Pre-Covid Tokyo circa 2019 I went to the same soaplands in Yoshiwara and Ikebukuro, but paid roughly 40,000 to 50,000 yen. Price was dependent upon day of the week, time of day, how busy the place was, and the beauty, age, and popularity of the provider.

That's roughly 400-500 USD. If a customer wants the nuru experience he has to get the 60 minutes or more session so closer to 500. The locals can get cheaper prices, but not foreigners who speak little to no Japanese. In fact they typically added a gaijin tax paid directly to the provider for the hassle of having to provide services to a foreigner, so add 50 to 100 USD to that total. That was pre Covid. As the Japanese government has largely denied entry to anyone other than Japanese citizens or green card holders, during Covid, the sex industry companies that catered to foreigners are all but gone. Two years is a long time with zero customers so these places went back to catering to Japanese only. It will take years for there sex industry to recover, much less a willingness to see non Japanese.

My point is 50 years ago you paid 150 USD. I gained entry precovid by paying 50,000 yen (500 plus USD) for the Yoshiwara nuru FS experience. In 2021 I'm not allowed to enter Japan. When Japan relaxes it's visa restrictions, I won't bother to visit a Japanese soapland because there is nothing available to outsiders. Especially one who speaks little to no Japanese. Covid made a xenophobic sex culture far more xenophobic. Times change there and here.

My advice for hawaii mongers is if you want to see young gorgeous providers, go see visiting escorts. It's not cheap. They charge roughly 600 dollars and up per hour. 700 per hour seems to be the new trend, but 500 to 600 can be found. They don't visit us all the time, so if you find one you like, and can afford it, take the plunge. Since most of us don't have Mr. Smileys monger budget, we can't make them a regular part of our monger diet. We will have to supplement our desires with older / less expensive AMP providers. You can't have both in 2021. Youth / beauty or affordability. That's assuming Covid doesn't continue to impact AMPs and HE massage places, and LE let them alone.Well said.

Affordability (Price-wise) we still have Thailand, Philippines, Colombia DR, and El Salvador. Just to name a few.

ExitOnly
12-26-21, 00:32
Well said.

Affordability (Price-wise) we still have Thailand, Philippines, Colombia DR, and El Salvador. Just to name a few.How safe is south of the border? All I can think of was bananas republic LE working with local criminal to rip off foreigners.

ToniMulato
12-26-21, 19:42
How safe is south of the border? All I can think of was bananas republic LE working with local criminal to rip off foreigners.Is safe as long as you stay in the tourist areas, don’t show wealth, then you'll be fine!

I was in in one of those countries last November, and most Mongering bars and clubs were located in pretty safe areas.

ToniMulato
12-26-21, 19:57
Here are some pics of the talent down south.

You technically know what you're getting since the girls there tend to use real, and recent pics to attract clientele.

The majority of the women are very young 18-28. And prices range between $46 long tome (60 minutes.) incall, to $65 long time outcall.

Me Cook
12-26-21, 20:18
With all the discussion of inflation, I think the $200 OG AMP like Happiness, Osaka, Angel, Tonbo, etc. Deserve more support. They more or less have something for everyones unless you are only into 20 something.(They do have that sometimes too) They are the last of the great AMPs left after the bullshit Kaneshiro and Nadamoto persecution. (May Kaneshiro get fucked up when he goes to prison) Enjoy these places and the price while they last. And don't forget your favorite indies. When they are gone all we going to have are these $300 Chinese fuck house with rush and shitty service.I rather pay for a professional provider that delivers great service and I don't want to waste my time and money with a rookie provider that has questionable service and hygiene.

Just because $200 is standard doesn't prevent me from tipping my provider more for better service. I do that also at the restaurants too. I don't want to pay more for bad service but I do want to reward great service when they provide it to me.

It is nice to give her the tip after and not before so I know how much extra money I should leave her. So I do give a minimum tip if they didn't do much for me. I would like to choose to pay what I believe they earned and not to pay as much for the ones that didn't earn that extra tip.

I also don't forget to include something extra especially when they are working during the holidays instead of them being home with their families.

Yuna at Happiness would only accept from me a $200 tip (not including the house fee). This week she accepted a $300 tip for the holidays. I will try again next time and see if she will accept that much again.

Why would I do that if I don't have to? That is what a tipping for good service is all about. I don't want the good ones to leave us just to be stuck with junk service from our younger Chinese friends.

I would go see a Korean escort and probably have to pay a lot more than what the AMPs girls are wanting but I can’t find any Korean escorts working in Hawaii. And the only Korean sugar babies that I can find are the Korean bar girls.

Prudential808
12-26-21, 22:12
Here are some pics of the talent down south.

You technically know what you're getting since the girls there tend to use real, and recent pics to attract clientele.

The majority of the women are very young 18-28. And prices range between $46 long tome (60 minutes.) incall, to $65 long time outcall.And I bet most of american factory and farm owners want to hire guys from siberia and se asia. Much cheaper while less lazy and less complaint, accustomed to harsh environment.

If you hire ukraine or moldova sailor instead of lazy hawaii males, you can save a lot getting better labor.

Same. Blame why USA is this rich and this prosperous.

Thumperforq
01-01-22, 21:01
I'm unclear if in the 1970's you paid 150 in Japan or here in Hawaii. Pre-Covid Tokyo circa 2019 I went to the same soaplands in Yoshiwara and Ikebukuro, but paid roughly 40,000 to 50,000 yen. Price was dependent upon day of the week, time of day, how busy the place was, and the beauty, age, and popularity of the provider.

That's roughly 400-500 USD. If a customer wants the nuru experience he has to get the 60 minutes or more session so closer to 500. The locals can get cheaper prices, but not foreigners who speak little to no Japanese. In fact they typically added a gaijin tax paid directly to the provider for the hassle of having to provide services to a foreigner, so add 50 to 100 USD to that total. That was pre Covid. As the Japanese government has largely denied entry to anyone other than Japanese citizens or green card holders, during Covid, the sex industry companies that catered to foreigners are all but gone. Two years is a long time with zero customers so these places went back to catering to Japanese only. It will take years for there sex industry to recover, much less a willingness to see non Japanese.

My point is 50 years ago you paid 150 USD. I gained entry precovid by paying 50,000 yen (500 plus USD) for the Yoshiwara nuru FS experience. In 2021 I'm not allowed to enter Japan. When Japan relaxes it's visa restrictions, I won't bother to visit a Japanese soapland because there is nothing available to outsiders. Especially one who speaks little to no Japanese. Covid made a xenophobic sex culture far more xenophobic. Times change there and here.

My advice for hawaii mongers is if you want to see young gorgeous providers, go see visiting escorts. It's not cheap. They charge roughly 600 dollars and up per hour. 700 per hour seems to be the new trend, but 500 to 600 can be found. They don't visit us all the time, so if you find one you like, and can afford it, take the plunge. Since most of us don't have Mr. Smileys monger budget, we can't make them a regular part of our monger diet. We will have to supplement our desires with older / less expensive AMP providers. You can't have both in 2021. Youth / beauty or affordability. That's assuming Covid doesn't continue to impact AMPs and HE massage places, and LE leaves them alone.In Japan there are cheaper alternatives than soaplands. Delivery Health Service is available, Pink Salons aka BJ bars are available. Cost depends on time of day, but you can get a 20's why / o to come to your hotel room or a nearby love hotel for under $300. All legal. As long as you can speak basic Japanese, they will service you. If you can't speak Japanese, there are establishments that will service foreigners for a slightly higher price.

DrSexMachine
01-04-22, 08:43
If the prices for AMPs, MTs, escorts, Indies, etc. start going up or get too high, there's always the SWs, although sometimes they charge a bit much these days I think.

Fujii08
01-04-22, 17:01
In Japan there are cheaper alternatives than soaplands. Delivery Health Service is available, Pink Salons aka BJ bars are available. Cost depends on time of day, but you can get a 20's why / o to come to your hotel room or a nearby love hotel for under $300. All legal. As long as you can speak basic Japanese, they will service you. If you can't speak Japanese, there are establishments that will service foreigners for a slightly higher price.I'm going up japan so I very much know about there sex place soapland is cheap place is more older lady and short time usually one hour. No alcohol and not so gorgeous inside the room.

High price 10 Thousand yen place is like supermodel type girl take care you like king. Can drink every liquor and big bathroom. Play time is 120 min.

Pink salon is dark in the room need flashlight LOL so most the time old lady at there. Fashion massage is bro job only and 30 min or little more. Lower price but gl is Young and sometimes international girl walking. Mostly Russia Australian White girl because Japanese men like blonde girl LOL.

Smokin Gun
01-04-22, 22:48
I'm going up japan so I very much know about there sex place soapland is cheap place is more older lady and short time usually one hour. No alcohol and not so gorgeous inside the room.

High price 10 Thousand yen place is like supermodel type girl take care you like king. Can drink every liquor and big bathroom. Play time is 120 min.

Pink salon is dark in the room need flashlight LOL so most the time old lady at there. Fashion massage is bro job only and 30 min or little more. Lower price but gl is Young and sometimes international girl walking. Mostly Russia Australian White girl because Japanese men like blonde girl LOL.Before the COVID pandemic, I would go to soaplands in Yoshiwara in Tokyo. I would get charged the foreigner price, which is more than the Nihonjin price. I would also not be able to choose the youngest and hottest girls, which were probably only for Nihonjin. I would walk around Yoshiwara and the doormen would try to call me over to patronize their soapland. I would identify myself as being a Japanese from Hawaii, which is a foreigner in their eyes. Funny thing is that when I would ask first to enter a soapland, they would say "no foreigners (gaijin)". But at another soapland when they ask me first to enter and then I say "no thank you because I am gaijin", they would then say it's okay, please come in. Haha. Then the soapland fun begins.

OlManRiver
05-07-22, 08:25
Just thought that I'd bump this thread up since so many have an opinion on what others should be tipping right now.

CoffeeMocha
05-11-22, 19:58
Because of Inflation everything is expensive now. I'm not able to afford the luxury of going to AMPs ANYMORE. If you know of any way to make "Good Money", please hook me up. Otherwise, I have to quit this hobby. I already work over 45 hours and I still don't earn enough to go to AMPs. Much Mahalo.

Aml3740
05-11-22, 23:49
And I'm not talking about bdsm LOL.

I make decent money, but living here is expensive, have child support and a partner that I help support overseas until she can come here. I don't have much left. So, I'm pretty cheap. Look at what expenses you can do without. If I really want to see a provider or AMP, I save for it. For me, eating and drinking at home is what saves me the most money. I moved to live close to work, so I can walk if I want to.

For me, I save for this hobby and for traveling. I live east side Big Island but usually fly out of Kona if going to the mainland. Why? I can usually save $200 on plane tickets. If a friend can't take me to the airport, I take the bus. Why? It is free here and it saves me gas and $150+ parking expenses. It's crazy and takes forever, but I could go mainland and see my ATF provider after I got back with the money I saved.


Because of Inflation everything is expensive now. I'm not able to afford the luxury of going to AMPs ANYMORE. If you know of any way to make "Good Money", please hook me up. Otherwise, I have to quit this hobby. I already work over 45 hours and I still don't earn enough to go to AMPs. Much Mahalo.

Jusride
05-12-22, 09:22
Consider checking out Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) Little Japan Saigon area. The massage parlors have beautiful girls with a line up of approximately 10 girls. Not sure about the true age but they all look 20's. Choose your massage type and girl.

Standing body shower, including your junk, and an actual table massage of at least 15-20 minutes which was good. On the flip the girl basically asks if you want extras and gives you 3 options. HJ, BJ or FS. 44,65, 87 roses respectively.

Including the massage (mama fee) and FS damages totalled approx 105 roses. And they let you choose a beverage before you go upstairs. I selected a japan beer.

I've been to Yoshiware soaplands in Tokyo once and I think Little Japan Saigon in Vietnam is better.

And if all you want is a BJ, there is another area with a street that has all BJ establishments for about 22 roses. Line up is about 6-10 girls. They're above average looking.



Before the COVID pandemic, I would go to soaplands in Yoshiwara in Tokyo. I would get charged the foreigner price, which is more than the Nihonjin price. I would also not be able to choose the youngest and hottest girls, which were probably only for Nihonjin. I would walk around Yoshiwara and the doormen would try to call me over to patronize their soapland. I would identify myself as being a Japanese from Hawaii, which is a foreigner in their eyes. Funny thing is that when I would ask first to enter a soapland, they would say "no foreigners (gaijin)". But at another soapland when they ask me first to enter and then I say "no thank you because I am gaijin", they would then say it's okay, please come in. Haha. Then the soapland fun begins.

GregBangoGang0
11-27-23, 07:50
Is 300 now the going rate for 26 year old girls? The younger girls want to charge more only for CFS. Lisa at City Garden wanted 300 for CFS. I thought 2. 2 was standard for BBFS.

AssEaterNow
12-04-23, 10:59
I can't believe the skyrocketing prices providers are charging nowadays I even read an ad for a traveling trannys $350 Incall $500 outcall. OMG. Prices are so high, Less mongers are spending at the spa and with providers, eventually the prices will come crashing down.

Thank you Joe for creating the worst inflation ever. Barrack screwed up his economy with the bank bailouts but you let in 2. 1 million undocumented migrants that will crash our economy, and head us into lawlessness.