Tijuana Reports

[Sandiegoman]

Hello All,

I am creating this thread so that visitors to San Diego as well as SD locals can obtain information about TJ directly through this site. Some people might not know about the ISG so I thought this could help out those people in that regards... Plus, with TJ being only minutes from San Diego, I consider it to be part of our local hunting grounds (IMHO).

Hopefully this thread will work out because I know I'm not the only one visiting TJ :-)

Take care,

Sandiegoman

[Sandiegoman]

Below is the "How To" guide to Tijuana.. It has everything you need to know, in detail. (please note all of this is available in the ISG)

Brockton O'Toole's Tijuana FAQ

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Updated: May 2007

INTRODUCTION: More than ten years ago the multifarious demands of my financial affairs brought me to San Diego for the first time. After concluding my business, I was in the mood for a little adult entertainment so I soon found myself in Tijuana wandering the turista strip along Avenida Revolucion. Enticed by barkers promising all manner of carnal delights, I foolishly patronized several clubs. All were disappointing clip joints interested only in separating me from my money. I departed unsatisfied and wondering where the TJ legends had gotten their start.

On a subsequent visit I used my barbarous Spanish to put inquiries to knowledgeable locals, who introduced me to the gentleman's playground that is the Zona Norte. About the same time, one of my technical staffers recommended the Internet as a useful business tool. That's when I discovered the concept of a document answering frequently asked questions (FAQ). It occurred to me that others could benefit from my TJ experience. And so it was that the TJ FAQ came to be. The rest, as they say, is history.

In the years since I first posted this FAQ, the amount of information available online about the Zona Norte has exploded. Much of it is very detailed and accurate. And frankly, some of it comes from gentlemen who spend far more time in TJ than I. My goal here is not to supplant that information, but rather to provide a primer for the total novice who speaks no Spanish and who is ignorant of the basic logistics involved in a typical evening trip from the United States to the Zona Norte and back. The idea is to get you south of the border and get you laid with a minimum of risk, drama or expense. If you follow the procedure described below, your TJ sojourn will be easy and fun. Armed with this information, there is no need to be concerned about traveling alone or an inability to speak Spanish. As you will read below, a few common sense precautions will keep you perfectly safe. There is no need to pay somebody to be your TJ "guide, " because these directions are well and truly idiot-proof.

PLANNING YOUR TJ TRIP: There was a time when you had to visit Friday or Saturday night to ensure the best selection of girls. No more. Thursdays and Sundays offer nearly the same selection. And the lineup Monday through Wednesday, while somewhat smaller, is still good. Some eschew the weekend nights because the clubs are so crowded. But I rather enjoy wading through a place packed with gorgeous girls knowing I can fuck any of them. The Zona Norte also operates during the day, albeit at a less frantic level. If you have no choice but to visit then, your best bet will probably be the Adelita Bar, which has a day shift of girls who arrive about midday and remain through happy hour. (More on the Adelita Bar below.) Finally, keep in mind that the pleasures of TJ mix nicely with the less carnal tourist attractions available in San Diego and environs. So this FAQ includes some lodging information for those interested in arranging overnight accommodations during a vacation. If you're a local, or you're just going for the night, skip ahead to the section entitled "Crossing the Border. "

LOCATION: Tijuana is just south of San Ysidro, California, which is about 25 miles south of downtown San Diego, and about 150 miles south of Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). If you are visiting, renting a car is the most convenient way to get around if you don't mind the expense. But if you're trying to economize, or you're concerned about drinking and driving, you can get from San Diego to Tijuana using public transportation, which includes buses and an extensive trolley system. See www.sdcommute.com.

LODGING ADVICE FOR THE NOVICE: Gentlemen who are traveling on a tight budget often contact me to enquire whether they might economize by lodging in Tijuana. I generally recommend against this. A perfectly serviceable room in Chula Vista within walking distance of the trolley can be had for less than $50 per night. Lodging in San Ysidro is even cheaper. In Tijuana, unless you stay in a frightening dive you'll pay in the vicinity of $40 per night. Granted, that's somewhat cheaper. But the accommodations will be far less comfortable and secure. Of course, some people are unconcerned with creature comforts and they enjoy soaking up local culture, Spanish phrasebook in hand. For them, I have a brief discussion of TJ hotels below. For everybody else, especially the newbies, I include the following discussion of lodging in Southern California.

SOCAL LODGING: Obviously, there are numerous hotels in all prices ranges in San Diego. So if your vacation involves seeing the sights of San Diego by day and spending your evenings in Tijuana, you can definitely stay in San Diego. If TJ is your primary focus, you can save time and money by staying in one of the communities south of San Diego: National City, Chula Vista or San Ysidro.

In National City, I have for more than a decade recommended the all suite highrise hotel overlooking San Diego Bay. (Which began life as the Radisson Suites, then morphed into a Red Lion, and finally the Bay View Suites.) Alas, that property has been converted into a condominium. Which is really a shame. The suites were large, the sunsets over the warships at anchor were stupendous and the freeway access was easy. Your faithful scribe spent many pleasant nights there and he is definitely going to miss it. There is, however, a Holiday Inn across the street.

Farther south is Chula Vista. If you are not going to rent a car, this is where I recommend you stay. More specifically, I recommend you stay at one of the motels clustered around the intersection of E Street and I-5. There is a trolley station and visitor information center there. Within easy walking distance you'll find many restaurants in all price ranges serving all manner of cuisine, plus several strip malls featuring a grocery store, liquor store, laundromat, drug store etc. Everything you could possibly want is within a ten minute stroll.

Go to Google Maps, and search for 91910 or "Chula Vista, California. " Then use the "find businesses" function and search for "hotels. " You'll see all your choices displayed on a map. I like the Days Inn, which is just steps from the trolley station. If you're on a budget, the Motel-6 and the Travelers Inn & Suites are options. The former is basic, but clean and it has a pool. I've not stayed at the latter, and you should be aware it has some uncomplimentary online reviews. There is also the Royal Vista Inn, which as I write is undergoing a complete renovation.

NOTE WELL: As discussed more fully below, trolley service between the border and points north between midnight and 5:00 a. M. Is sporadic at best. This is especially true during the week. You can check the schedule at: http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Info...lley/trolleyMap. Asp So if you are a real night owl, you should consider renting a car or staying in San Ysidro within walking distance of the border.

Speaking of San Ysidro, you won't find much in the way of luxurious lodging there. But there are several modest motels available that are clean and comfortable. The consensus favorite seems to be the Travelodge. However I have received several reports of the staff there divulging credit card numbers to criminals who then make unauthorized charges. Caveat emptor and pay with cash if you stay there. There is also a Motel 6.

TIJUANA LODGING: If you have your heart set on staying in Tijuana, you're pretty much on your own. Suffice it to say that if you are willing to pay upwards of $100 per night, you can find luxury accommodations as comfortable as any in the United States, Europe or Asia. The Hotel Real del Rio in the upscale Zona Rio neighborhood is popular with travelers who desire first-class lodging. There are also excellent resorts further south in Baja California.

At the other end of the scale, there are numerous hotels in TJ where you can rent a room for as little as $20-30 per night. These hotels, however, are EXTREMELY basic. Often there is no air conditioning, television or telephone. The floors are tile, the walls are bare, and the linens are (to be charitable) well-used. Moreover, you'll probably need to speak some Spanish to deal with the proprietors. If you are a bilingual, adventurous type of guy who is unconcerned with creature comforts, these hotels are an option. But frankly, I do not recommend them. If you have your heart set on staying in Tijuana at a comfortable hotel without spending a fortune, the best value can be found at the La Villa de Zaragoza Hotel, which is located at 1120 Avenida Madero, between 7th and 8th Streets. (Behind the jai alai emporium, which should be on most maps.) Rooms are about $40-75 per night and feature the usual creature comforts such as air conditioning, television, and telephone. In addition, the staff speaks some English. Call them at 011-52-664-685-1832 or surf over to www.members. Aol.com/hotellavilla.

TRAVELING TO THE BORDER: If you are using the trolley, just head south on the blue line until you get to the last stop at San Ysidro. When you get off the trolley at the San Ysidro station, you'll be on the east side of the port of entry complex, which straddles a gigantic freeway carrying northbound and southbound traffic. (I know there isn't any ocean nearby, but the USA Government still calls it a "port" of entry.) Then follow the directions below for entering Mexico on foot.

If you have a car, I STRONGLY recommend AGAINST driving into Mexico for a number of reasons. The insurance on your personal car is NO GOOD in Mexico, so you'll have to buy special Mexican auto insurance. Don't think you can avoid the problem by renting a car. If you drive a rental car into Mexico it is an express VIOLATION of the rental agreement. So if anything happens to the car, you are PERSONALLY LIABLE, EVEN IF YOU BOUGHT THE INSURANCE OR LOSS/DAMAGE WAIVER! And even if you surmount these obstacles, it's rather difficult to find your way around and safe parking is very scarce. In fact, secure parking in TJ will usually be so far away from where you're going that you will have to take a cab anyway. On the way back to the United States, the wait at the border can be HOURS long.

BEST BET FOR DRIVERS: Drive down to the border, park on the USA Side, and walk across. To do that, go south on the I-5 and get off at the exit marked with a green and yellow sign reading: "Camino de la Plaza. Last USA Exit and Parking. " Go six-tenths (0. 6) of a mile along the exit ramp to the four-way stop. Go straight through the intersection and you'll see several parking lots on your right. I recommend the last lot on the right before you reach the dead end. Park near the duty-free store. Do not leave anything visible in your car which would tempt the smash-and-grab crowd.

IF YOU PLAN TO SERIOUSLY IMBIBE: Be aware that efforts to arrest drunk drivers are intense in and around San Ysidro. The police are well aware that many people return from Mexico after drinking then drive home from the parking lots near the border. I have received reports of traffic stops by San Diego Police officers between 12:00 a. M. And 5:00 a. M. , in which a trivial traffic violation serves as a pretext to check for intoxicated drivers. Moreover, the California Highway Patrol sometimes sets up a sobriety checkpoint on the entrance ramp that connects to the northbound freeway.

Obviously, you should be not be driving if you are impaired. But you can lessen the odds of getting stopped by the San Diego police by parking on the EAST side of the port of entry, in any of the lots near the San Ysidro trolley station. I recommend the one behind the Jack In The Box restaurant, which always has spaces available, and which charges reasonable rates. From those lots, the entrance ramp to the northbound freeway is just a few yards away and you will be less exposed to law enforcement.

You should also be on the lookout for a sobriety checkpoint on the freeway entrance ramp that is sporadically set up by the California Highway Patrol. These checkpoints are usually well publicized. Moreover, the ramp is visible from the parking lots or the freeway overpasses, so there is no excuse for blundering into trouble. CAUTION: If you see a checkpoint you may be tempted to get on the freeway using another ramp slightly farther north. I recommend against this because it's reasonable to assume the police will be looking for drivers doing just that. Do the smart thing and head for the cab stand near the trolley station. No matter what the fare, it's infinitely cheaper than getting arrested. You can return the next day by trolley to retrieve your car.

ENTERING MEXICO ON FOOT: From the west side parking lots, exit the lot, turn right on the sidewalk and walk to the dead end. From the east side parking lots or the trolley station, follow the crowd toward the port of entry building. You will see ramps up to a pedestrian bridge crossing over the freeway. Go up the ramps, across the bridge and down on the west side. There you will see two big noisy turnstiles that mark the southbound pedestrian gate into Mexico. After passing through the turnstiles, you'll enter a pedestrian plaza about 200 yards long, with various government offices on your left and a wall with a mural on your right. Although there is a small government checkpoint about halfway down, there is usually no inspection of southbound pedestrians by Mexican officials. (Needless to say, however, the Mexican authorities reserve the right to search you. So don't be a bonehead. Leave your contraband at home. That includes all manner of weapons, including knives and pepper spray.) If you are not traveling beyond Tijuana or staying longer than 72 hours, you are not required to obtain a government-issued tourist card.

At the southern end of the plaza, you will see two more turnstiles. Go through one of them and on the other side you will find a fleet of yellow taxis and numerous drivers, almost all of whom speak some English. Hire a cab and tell him you want to go to Adelitas (ah-day-LEE-tas). The yellow taxis do not use meters, and you are supposed to be charged a flat fare of $5. But once in a while, the driver will ask for more and feed you a story about gas prices going up or something. This is especially common if the driver sizes you up as a gullible tourist. You can generally avoid this fate by speaking Spanish (even halting, high school Spanish) and by sitting in the front seat of the cab, which is a local custom. But even if the driver asks for more than $5, my advice would be to pay the extra buck or two. It's not worth bickering over such a small amount of money. Also, be sure to carry exact change. Unlike the bars in the Zona Norte, which cheerfully accept dollars and honestly make change, cab drivers are less diligent in this respect. Finally, some cab drivers will try to talk you into going to a massage parlor (which of course offers more than a massage). He's only doing it because the massage parlor pays him a kickback. So politely decline such invitations and insist on going to the Adelita Bar. Ditto if the cabbie claims the Adelita Bar is "closed. " He's lying to you.

SAFETY ALERT: You may be tempted to save the cab fare and walk from the pedestrian entry over the bridge into downtown TJ. THIS IS *EXTREMELY* DANGEROUS AND YOU SHOULD NEVER DO IT! The neighborhoods you must traverse are not exactly the nicest parts of TJ and there are lurking bandidos who specialize in robbing unwary pedestrians. Be safe not sorry. Pay the taxi. Ditto for your return to the border. Again: WALKING BETWEEN THE ZONA NORTE AND THE BORDER IS *EXTREMELY* DANGEROUS! Plain enough?

WHY NOT AVENIDA REVOLUCION? By following this plan, you will be eschewing the main turista drag along Avenida Revolucion. When it comes to commercial sex establishments, you will not be missing a thing. It's important to note that prostitution is officially illegal throughout Tijuana. In the Zona Norte, however, there is an government-sanctioned "zone of tolerance. " As a result, everything is open and aboveboard. Not so along Avenida Revolucion, where, in deference to the tourist trade, the official prostitution ban is enforced (albeit with varying degrees of vigor). Granted, prostitution continues there. But the need to hide it from the authorities makes it a dirty, depressing outlaw scene. IMHO, most of the strip clubs and hooker bars along Avenida Revolucion are dives that specialize in stealing from gullible turistas. The facilities are seedy, the drink prices are outrageous and they frequently don't make honest change. As for the girls, most are ugly, some are she-males and lots of them are very skilled pickpockets. Even if you're lucky enough to find a decent one to go with, you'll pay a fortune for a scarifying experience in a dingy room.

So stay away from Avenida Revolucion clubs, no matter how insistent the barkers out on the street may be. (Also avoid anyone who is hawking a "donkey show. " This type of entertainment doesn't exist.) If you simply must begin your evening on Avenida Revolucion, I suggest you visit one of the numerous "college girl" bars and tune up by leering at the 18 year old SoCal sweeties. Then hop a cab to the Adelita Bar. (Again, walking is NOT recommended.)

THE COMMERCIAL SEX SCENE IN THE ZONA NORTE: When you get out of the cab at the Adelita Bar, you will be in the middle of the Zona Norte, so called because it's north of downtown. (Some call it the "Zona Roja" or Red Zone.) As I noted above, prostitution is officially "tolerated" in this area, so everything is out in the open. You'll see numerous bars crowded into a several blocks. Most of them make an effort to look like a dance hall. There is usually a DJ (or rarely, a live band) a dance floor, and girls sitting around. Some of the girls do no more than dance with patrons and sit at their table in exchange for a small amount of money, or in exchange for buying them drinks on which they earn a commission called a? Ficha? There is a market for that kind of service from guys (usually locals) who are only interested in drinking, dancing and chatting. But most of the girls are hookers. The Zona Norte also features numerous small hotels that rent rooms by the hour. You strike a deal in the bar, then go to the hotel. Unlike the furtive commercial sex scene in most USA Cities (and along Avenida Revolucion) it's all very above-board, organized and convenient. The Zona Norte generates lots of dollars in an economy that sorely needs hard currency. So nobody is going to do anything to hurt the hooker trade.

You might be tempted to stumble from bar to bar looking for a girl who strikes your fancy. But there are dozens of places, and as I explain below wandering around the Zona Norte can be risky. Even if you managed to check out all the tiny bars on all the various side streets, you would almost certainly conclude the vast majority of the girls in the Zona Norte hooker bars range from ugly to just passable. (See, however, my disclaimer on beauty and the eye of the beholder, below.) You get what you pay for and most of the bars in the Zona Norte cater to locals who don't have much money.

For the newcomer, there are only three places worth going to: the ADELITA BAR, the CHICAGO CLUB and the Hong Kong CLUB.

GETTING YOUR BEARINGS: The Adelita Bar is on the south side of Calle Coahilla just west of Avenida Constitucion. You won't find Calle Coahilla on most TJ maps, but it's easy to find if you remember that it runs east and west, parallel to Calle Primera (First Street) but one block to the north. There are online maps of the Zona Norte at various sites. My favorites are at www.**********.net/maps. Htm.

The Hong Kong Club is located in a narrow street that runs parallel to Calle Coahilla, but half a block south. Zona Norte veterans call this street? The Alley? From the Adelita Bar turn right, walk to the end of the block, turn right again, walk half a block, and turn right a third time. This will put you in the alley. Walk about three-quarters of the way down the block and you? Ll see the Hong Kong Club on your right.

The Chicago Club is located roughly kitty corner from the Adelita Bar across the intersection on the east side of Avenida Constitucion, half a block north of Calle Coahilla. Exit the Adelita Bar and turn right. Walk to the intersection and look diagonally to your left. The Chicago Club will be on the right side of the street, about 100 feet down.

ZONA NORTE SAFETY: Like any urban neighborhood, the Zona Norte has its safe sections and its not-so-safe sections. Fortunately, the Adelita Bar, the Chicago Club and the Hong Kong Club are located in the safest part of the Zona Norte.

You should have no qualms about traversing the short distance between the Adelita Bar, the Chicago Club and the Hong Kong Club. Even a TJ novice who speaks no Spanish will be perfectly safe and quite comfortable going back and forth between these clubs. If you are new to the Zona Norte scene or you just want to cut to the chase and find the best-looking women, I recommend you restrict your movements to these three places.

The remainder of the Zona Norte is GENERALLY safe, but there is a threat from "rateros, " who are guys that sneak up behind you and then use a choke hold until you lose consciousness at which point your pockets are emptied. The rateros usually prey on obviously drunk guys who are walking back to the border alone in the wee hours, or who stray into the seedier parts of the Zona Norte. Years ago the rateros were so blatant that the police located a substation in the Zona Norte and cracked down on them. The number of muggings declined sharply and today they are very rare. Still, you should be street smart. Whenever you get off the well-beaten path between the Adelita Bar, Chicago Club and Hong Kong Club, walk in the street and keep your head on a swivel. This will make it more difficult for rateros to surprise you from a doorway or sneak up from behind. Moreover, as I noted above, do NOT under any circumstances attempt to walk to or from the Zona Norte. I cannot emphasize this strongly enough. Take a taxi. Lastly, be smart and empty your wallet and you pockets of nonessential valuables. I carry only my car keys, currency and a drivers license.

WATCH OUT FOR "TOUR GUIDES" AND TOUTS: If you look like a first-timer, you may be approached by one of a number of polite, presentable English-speaking guys who hang out in the Zona Norte and try to scam visitors. These guys will feed you a story about how they have inside knowledge of where the absolutely hottest girls can be found and they will offer to take you to this mythical place. Don't fall for it. At best, they are pimping for some massage parlor or dive bar that gives them a kickback to bring in customers. At worst, they are setting you up to be robbed or shaken down by the cops. Don't stop walking. Just keep moving and nicely decline their invitation.

DEALING WITH LOCAL POLICE: Prostitution is officially tolerated in the Zona Norte, so patronizing the bars or going with the girls is just fine. But you WILL attract the attention of the police if you act like an asshole. So don't drink on the street, piss in alleys, pick fights with locals, stumble around obviously drunk or engage in other loutish behavior. The police are VERY strict on narcotics and weapons, including knives, mace and pepper spray. If they catch you with any of that stuff you are SERIOUSLY fucked.

Moreover, Mexican law permits the police to search you at any time, and unscrupulous officers sometimes take advantage of this. You may become a shakedown target if you fall into conversation with one of the shady guys who hang out on the street in the Zona Norte. The police then search you claiming you were trying to buy drugs. They're hoping to find some kind of contraband they can use to extract a "mordida" or bribe. Never talk to the guys who approach you on the street. Just keep walking and steer clear of them. The cops consider Viagra and the like to be contraband. So if they catch you carrying it, they'll raise a fuss in the hope you'll offer a bribe.

SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES: Prostitution in the Zona Norte is somewhat regulated by the authorities, who require the girls to get regular medical examinations. When they do so, they receive a card from the health department that permits them to work in one of the Zona Norte clubs. The authorities conduct periodic spot checks to ensure that the girls are complying with this requirement. Moreover, as I note below, condom usage is virtually universal. IMHO, these safeguards reduce the risk of contracting a STD from one of the girls in the Zona Norte bars to almost zero. Granted, no system is perfect. The regulations can be flouted or circumvented. Bribes can be paid. And accidents happen. So every guy has to evaluate the risk for himself. All I'm saying is that in *my* opinion, the risk is vanishingly small. Whether it justifies the reward is up to you.

Let's see. So far you've read about how to avoid getting mugged, getting arrested and getting a STD. Cheerful material this is not. But necessary. Use your common sense and follow the FAQ and you'll be just fine. The risks are actually very, very low. Fortunately, things pick up from here. Now you're going to read about getting laid by some very hot girls.

THE ADELITA BAR ===============

Noisy, crowded, hot and loud, the Adelita Bar is without doubt the largest and most successful club in the Zona Norte. By Zona Norte standards, the interior is lavish. There's a good sound system, comfortable seating, excellent lighting, and numerous flat screen televisions that usually feature sports. (The mens room, complete with full-time attendant, is positively spotless. Throw this guy a buck for his hard work.)

As of this writing, beer is $3. 50 a can or bottle for all the Mexican brands. If you do not imbibe, they also offer soft drinks and mineral water at comparable prices. Like the other Zona Norte clubs, the Adelita Bar works on the dance hall format. But over the years the number of girls who dance with patrons has steadily diminished, no doubt because the majority of customers are Norteamericanos who don't know the Mexican dances. There is only one dance floor now, and it is mainly used for periodic strip shows by a handful of girls. But every so often you'll see a Mexican patron take one of the girls for a spin.

Before I describe the girls in the Adelita Bar, a brief disclaimer is in order. I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So I will disclose up front that my taste runs toward the Norteamericano ideal and within that paradigm I prefer petite women with "fine" facial features. (For example, Alison Lohman, Sienna Miller and Kate Beckinsale.) I am well aware that many Mexican women have curvier figures and "broader" facial features. And I'm aware that lots of men (not necessarily all Mexican) prefer that look. So when it comes to my comments about the looks of the Zona Norte girls, as they say on the net YMMV, my. 02 worth, and IMHO. Finally, don't forget that on a busy weekend night, the selection will be good enough that you can almost certainly find somebody who you think is gorgeous, no matter what your type.

In previous editions of this FAQ I have opined that lots of the women in the Adelita Bar are short, dark and, to be polite, "curvy. " I have also said that truly stunning women were very scarce there. Over the years, however, the selection of girls at the Adelita Bar has steadily improved and the lineup now features some amazing hotties. Indeed, I can state without fear of contradiction that if you're looking for the largest number of girls who are totally hot (by Norteamericano standards) you'll almost certainly find what you seek at the Adelita Bar. As of this writing, there is no other club in the Zona Norte with as many smoking hot chicks working as the Adelita Bar. Moreover, if you like the Latina Lovelies there are plenty of them at the Adelita Bar as well. And yes, the short round chicas are still represented.

In the Adelita Bar, most of the girls stand around in the aisles when they are not sitting or dancing with patrons. Sometimes when it's slow, the girls will perch in booths. But usually they stand around, which makes it easy to approach them. Different girls gravitate to different spots out of habit and whenever they are in the bar they tend to stick to the same spot. A few circulate, but most park in one area and wait to be approached. For reasons I do not understand, the hottest girls in the Adelita Bar congregate in an area that has become known to patrons as "hottie central. " To get there, go in the front door and walk straight ahead until you come to an open area of floor at the back of the club. That's hottie central and on a busy night it will be jammed with girls and guys standing shoulder to shoulder. It's like being at a super-crowded party, only the girls are hotter and you can fuck any one you want. You'll also find a good selection of girls standing in the aisles between hottie central and the men's room. And don? T forget there's more to the Adelita Bar than Hottie Central. So make the rounds and check out the rest of the girls. You may find a diamond in the rough.

Usually, the girls are not bashful about talking to you. This is especially true for Norteamericanos who are alone. Some guys like this, some don't. I think it's fun. Where else can you have a young girl walk up and grab your ass while she tells you how good she can suck your cock? Hint: Don't be concerned if you fail to see a girl you like straight off. The selection of girls at the Adelita Bar is constantly changing. Frequently the selection at 2:00 a. M. Is superior to what is was at 10:00 p. M. So be patient. You may discover somebody totally hot in the wee hours.

STRATEGY: Don't sit at a table. Instead, buy your drink at the bar and wander around the club. You'll get a better look at the girls and you'll have a chance to chat with the friendlier ones. While you are listening to her sales pitch, I've found if you keep smiling and talking, your hands can roam a little and the girl won't mind. This of course is the reason you're in the Zona Norte: to get away with doing things that would get you slapped anywhere else. The girls' English ranges from pretty good, to virtually non-existent. But don't let the language barrier keep you from the girl of your dreams. Almost all can speak enough English to negotiate a price and get you laid. If you choose, you can buy your girl a drink, but there's usually no big hustle to do so. Drinks for the ladies run $7-10.

If you seem to like her, she will ask you if you'd like to "go to the room, " or "go to the hotel" which is their euphemism for doing business. If you say yes, she'll quote you a price, generally $50-70. If you're of a mind to haggle, you may counteroffer, keeping in mind that once you get to the hotel you will be required to pay an additional $12 for the use of the room for 30 minutes. The price quoted by the girls usually includes 30 minutes of her time, which typically takes the form of fellatio, followed by intercourse to a single climax. Note I said "typically. " Some of the Zona Norte girls, especially the new ones who are just starting out, will decline to perform oral sex. If this is important to you, it would be wise to ascertain in advance if this service is available. You can also arrange a 60 minute session by paying a higher fee to both the girl and the hotel. "Special requests" (bareback blow job, anal, etc.) are negotiable as well, usually from the second or third tier girls. Just be sure to come to an agreement in the bar so that there are no misunderstandings or disappointments when you reach the room. Don't be embarrassed about discussing all this. Amiable negotiation is practically a national sport in Mexico and the commercial sex trade is the whole purpose of the Zona Norte. Provided you are polite (a quality that's *very* important in the Mexican culture) you don't need to worry about offending the girls by asking for what you want.

CHICAGO CLUB =============

I long considered the Chicago Club to be the premier hooker bar in Tijuana. But over the past few years this place has slipped to second place. The number of girls working in there has declined steadily, and the percentage of truly scary chicas has increased. I'm not talking about hookers with less than ideal looks. Every club has those. I'm talking old, fat, creepy and just plain disgusting. There are still some hotties in the Chicago Club lineup, but they are increasingly scarce. Moreover, it's difficult to find them because the lighting is too dark. Perhaps they figure that in the gloom you'll be fooled into going with one of the lesser girls.

Despite my misgivings, I still recommend the Chicago Club. It? S a Zona Norte institution, it's clean and comfortable, and with patience you can find a truly stunning girl. But watch out, the action here can be VERY uneven. On Friday and Saturday, you'll find 40+ girls. Sunday and Thursday, you'll see 20-30. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday can be slow. In fact, it's possible to find the club virtually empty. My theory is the hottest girls do well enough working three or fours days a week that they sometimes take the rest of the week off. Nevertheless, even if you're worried it will be slow, the Chicago Club is a mandatory stop during any Zona Norte excursion. But be aware that the time you visit is important. Even on busy nights, the Chicago Club is usually empty until 9:30, and it takes another hour after that for all the girls to wander in. Peak selection will be from 10: 30 to 1:00 a. M. After that, the girls begin to drift off. The Chicago Club definitely caters to night owls.

The Chicago Club also attracts foreigners with money, especially Asians. If there are numerous Asian guys in there when you visit, you can be assured the girls will soon appear. Somehow, the word just gets around. When you first walk in, a waiter will try to steer you to a table. Insider tip: Politely decline on the pretext of going to the men's room, then choose your own table. Do NOT sit at the bar. That's where most of the girls hang out, and they get a little peeved if you sit in "their" place. Ditto for hanging out in the alcove near the coat check. For the absolutely BEST view, sit in one of the small booths that surround the dance floor. (My favorite is the one near the ladies room, because eventually all the girls walk right past you.) If you would rather play the high roller, sit at one of the elevated booths up against the wall. Very Las Vegas.

The center of the Chicago Club is dominated by an step-up wooden dance floor with the usual disco lighting. Unlike many other Zona Norte clubs, there is no Mexican music here. Nor is there a band. It's all recorded techno-dance stuff. On busier nights, they also have several strip shows. Every few hours the DJ will dim the lights and starting yammering away. Then several girls will come out one at a time and do a strip act, which culminates in them being topless. The quality of the strippers varies. Some nights, you get average-looking girls who just seem to be going through the motions. Other nights, the women are hot and the show is hotter.

Unlike at the Adelita Bar, where the direct approach works best, the smooth move at the Chicago Club is to use you waiter as a go-between with the girls. When you get your drink, tip well and show some loyalty by ordering all of your drinks from same waiter. (The management of the Chicago Club must believe the old "they all look alike" nonsense. So the waiters wear a name tag that has a number on it, presumably so that you can keep them all straight.) Sip and stare and listen to the pounding dance music. Repeat as necessary. When you see a girl that strikes your fancy, tell your waiter you would like to buy her a drink. He will ask her to sit down with you. While it's OK to approach a girl directly, and to dispense with the ladies drink, I think using the waiter to invite the girl over for a drink works best. If the club is busy, or if the girl is totally hot, she is likely weighing competing invitations. Moreover, you might be seated where it's impossible to keep her in sight as she circulates throughout the club, or when she returns from the hotel. So it helps to have the waiter on your side. If you've tipped him well, and he thinks he's going to get another tip from the girl's drink, he'll plead your case for you. The girl's drink will run you about $8 and if you throw the waiter $10, he'll be most pleased with the $2 tip. Chat for a while, then strike a deal.

The Chicago Club girls charge about the same as their Adelita Bar competitors, but some will quote a price $10 or $20 more. Again, polite dickering is part of the game. As of this writing, even the hottest girls will take $60 for a standard session, and if it's slow or you're dealing with a second tier girl you can do better.

Like the girls at the Adelita Bar, the girls at the Chicago Club will insist that you wear a condom during the session, including for the blow job. Some girls will let you go down on them and some won't. Others will do anal sex or accommodate other special requests negotiated in advance. If the hotel is busy, when your 30 minutes is up they will remind you of the time limit with a knock on the door. But if it's slow, or the girl tells them to bug off, they're not real strict about enforcing it. On your way out, one of the guys who cleans the rooms will solicit a tip of $1.

Hong Kong CLUB ================

The Hong Kong Club is a combination strip club and hooker bar on three levels, with the second and third levels overlooking the ground floor. Drink prices are comparable to those at the Adelita Bar and Chicago Club. On busy nights they will set up a tub of beer outside the front door and require you to purchase one as sort of a cover charge.

Most of the girls at the Hong Kong Club will eventually appear on stage and strip. This would be epic if they were all hotties. But alas, the load factor at the Hong Kong Club leaves much to be desired. Fortunately not all the girls are chubby, and most nights there will be at least a few worth watching.

The Hong Kong Club also offers a two girl show during which the girls get naked, cover each other with shaving cream, and roll around on the stage with each other. Usually the girls who do this show are fairly attractive, and for a tip you have a chance to cop a soapy feel. Definitely a novelty act, with just enough perv value to see at least once.

PRIVATE DANCES: The main feature on the third floor is a collection of phone-booth-size areas for private dances. If you fancy a girl and want a private dance, for about $30 per song you can retire to one of these booths. Typically the girl will be totally nude, and at the very least she'll grind her ass into your crotch lap dance style and let you fondle her tits. Some girls will do more, such as stroking your cock through your pants with her hand, or doing something similar with her mouth. I've even had girls unzip my pants and reach inside to stroke my cock with just my boxers in between. I've also had girls who let me finger fuck them.

Take note, however, that the private dance action at the Hong Kong Club can be uneven. The girl is totally in charge of how nasty things will get, and as in strip clubs everywhere her goal is to extract the most money from you for the least amount of service. Is it possible to get off during a private dance? Sure, but it's going to be via manual stimulation in a stuffy little booth, there's going to be fabric in the way, and you'll probably have to pay for more than one song. And let's not forget that you can get laid in a hotel room by one of the hottie central girls from the Adelita Bar for $72. So it doesn't take many songs for the curves to cross.

If you can afford it, the private dance action at the Hong Kong Club is a nice way to tune up before getting laid at another club. It's also an option for guys who for whatever reason want to get off without actually fucking any of the girls. Finally, it's a good way to test drive a Hong Kong Club girl that you're considering taking to the hotel.

Speaking of which, most of the Hong Kong Club girls will go to the hotel. But the scene isn't quite as simple as at the Adelita Bar or the Chicago Club. Some girls prefer to make their money off drink commissions, so they'll string you along by promising a fantastic session at the hotel in order to get you to buy numerous expensive drinks. Zona Norte vets call this "getting ficha fucked. " You can avoid this fate by being clear that you're interested in going to the hotel and politely pressing for an immediate departure. Remember you're in the Zona Norte and everybody knows the score. If the girl's still dragging her feet after the second ladies drink, move on. The Hong Kong Club is not a USA Strip club, it's a hooker bar.

The drill at the hotel used by Hong Kong Club girls is the same as at the hotels next door to the Adelita Bar and the Chicago Club. Twelve bucks for the room gets you half an hour of time. I think the rooms here are slightly nicer, but then again I'm not there to admire the decor.

RETURNING TO THE UNITED STATES: When you've had enough fun, catch a cab back to the border. (Or as the locals call it "la linea. ") Same fixed fare of $5. The driver will let you off at a little turnaround on the east side of the multiple lane road headed north to the United States. From there, you'll walk up the sidewalk about 100 yards to the pedestrian inspection building.

Sometimes there are a couple of cops hanging out near the taxi drop off point, and occasionally they will stop pedestrians and search them. This is not common, but it does happen. (In over a decade of solo trips to TJ, I've been stopped exactly once.) Again, they are looking for something they can use to extract a payoff from you. One thing they like to find is Viagra, because so many guys buy it without a prescription. So if you buy any Vitamin V in TJ, be sure to buy only what you'll need for one night, and swallow it immediately after purchase. If you don't have anything on you, the cops will send you on your way.

Walk north along the sidewalk, past a few shops including a drugstore (where they sell the best macaroons in the world) to the doors into the large border crossing complex. You will go down a long corridor until you come to the pedestrian inspection area maintained by the USA Authorities.

Leaving the United States was easy. Getting back in is a little harder. In the language of USA Immigration law, the burden is on YOU to prove "beyond a doubt" that you are "entitled to enter. " Since 9/11 the inspectors require some kind of picture identification. Often they just glance at it, but sometimes they will run a brief database search. If they aren't convinced you are a USA Citizen, they always have the option of making you prove it. A passport is perfect, and soon one will be required. (Google "passport Mexico land travel" for the latest rules.)

If you are a USA Citizen of Hispanic descent or you have a "foreign" appearance or accent, they will question you more closely. Be sure to have whatever documentation you need. If you are a foreign tourist visiting the USA , you must present your passport (with USA Entry visa) so they know you are not trying to sneak into the USA Via Mexico. They will not, however, stamp your passport with an entry cachet unless you ask. Sometimes, they'll ask you to make a "customs declaration" by asking what, if anything, you are bringing back from Mexico. For the rules on what you can and cannot bring back from Mexico, check out the USA Customs Service web site.

Once you are admitted to the USA, you will leave the pedestrian inspection area through doors straight ahead. At this point, you are on the EAST side of the highway.

If you took the trolley, you'll be just a few steps from where you board for the northbound trip. CAUTION: Northbound service after midnight is sporadic. As of this writing trolleys were scheduled to depart at 11:59 p. M. , 12:29 a. M. And 12:59 a. M. On Saturday nights there is an extra departure at 1:59 a. M. After that, there are several hours in the middle of the night when the trolley is NOT running. For the latest schedule, see:

Www. Sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/trolley/trolleymap. Asp#Blu

If you find yourself needing northbound transportation when the trolley is not running, you can usually find a taxi near the trolley station. The fare is about $25 to the motels I recommend on E Street in Chula Vista and probably double that if you go all the way to downtown San Diego.

If you drove down and parked on the east side, your lot is straight ahead out of the pedestrian inspection building. If you drove down and parked in one of the west side lots, however, you need to cross over to the other side of the highway. To do this, once you get outside the building, make a hard right, almost a you-turn. You will see a series of ramps that leads up to the pedestrian bridge that crosses over the top of the northbound and southbound highways. Descend the ramps and you'll see the west side parking lots.

That's it. Have a great trip!

Regards,

Brockton O'Toole

[Zivagofreud]

Thanks for reporting !

[Allakat]

Can I get a hJ in the bar and save a few bucks? Is oral sex safe, or resonantly safe to avoide STDs? I did this before without problem but I don't want an STD. I have found them to be extreamly painful and embarrassing to get cured.

Whatever the risk may be worth the pleasure.

PS: WTF is wrong with the land of the free? I live in a bullshit nation.

[Dude40]

I was able to recently visit TJ from a land far away. The TJ Guide below is right on the button. I used the trolly to get to and from the border. The yellow taxi's and the bars were right where the guide said they would be.

The only thing I can add that did not seem to be in the guide were the street girls. There had to be at least 100 girls standing against the buildings within a 2 block square in the described Zona Norte. Granted, a few were 0's and 1's, with a few on the other end of the scale at 8 to 9's. The average seemed to be a 6 to a 7. The ages seemed to average in the high teens to low twenties. I did see one or two that could not have been more than 14 and a few more that were looked 16ish. I went into the bars noted in the guide, but the chicas in there seemed to be about the same that was on the street. There may have been a few in the bars that were far and above all the others, but it was hot in the bar and nice outside, so did not stay long in any of them.

After walking around a bit, a "Helper" found us. He spoke very good english, and said his name was Johnathan. Since I don't speak Spanish, I wanted to get a little bit of info from him such as prices, menu, rooms, etc. So I pointed at a girl, and said how much for her? He said, for 20 plus 5 for the room, she would be partially nude in mishionary, no oral. For multilple positions and oral, the girl would be 30 plus 5 for the room. He also had a little bit of insight into how well each of the girls performed.

I was having a bit of sensory overload, but I did finally make a decision and picked one that seemed to be having a little fun. Johnathan told her what I wanted, and the price was set. She took me by the hand and led me upstairs to a small window. I paid the man 5 and he handed her a towel. We then walked down a hallway to a small room. I was pleasantly surprised to find room reasonalbly clean, with a shower and a sink in a little side room. They even gave her a condom in the towel that I had not seen.

We got down to business after some small talk with her little English and my little Spanish. She said she was 21. I could tell that this wasn't her first rodeo. After about half an hour, I had to let explode into her. She was worth every penny. After dressing, I gave her 30 and she came back down to the street with me. I gave Johnathan 5 and bid him farewell.

Cost breakdown:
All Day Trolly Pass: $5.00
Taxi to and from Zona Norte: $10.00
TJ Room: $5.00
Rodeo Chica: $30.00
Helper Tip: $5.00

I ended up about an hour later feeling the need again, so I opted for another rodeo. A 19 year old spinner from Mexico City with great nips. My total cash outlay, with drinks, was $100. I was extremely happy, and I recommend you at least see for yourself. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.

Enjoy and Play Safe!!
Dude

[Lascivious]

From everything I've read about "helpers" you got lucky. Usually the only thing they do is help themselves to your money or help you go to jail.

Stay clear of these types they are often nothing but trouble.

[Jamesj]

Drove down to San Ysidro & walked across (about 12:30 p. M.). Went to Zona Norte and saw about 40-50 SWs in waiting. Made the loop twice, doing a little window shopping. Decided on a little spinner in front of Nuevo Rio Rosas on Coahuila av. Long black hair, 4'11, 95# & 32Bs. We agreed on BJ & FS for. 20. The room was. 03. She wanted an extra. 05 to get naked. The BJ was average at best, we then switched to doggie & it was great-very tight. Her name was Jakaline (sic? ) & she did not rush. Would rate her looks as 9. When we finished up, she cleaned me & we started getting dressed. She went into the bathroom and squatted over the stool (no door) and started to wizz. I'm like WTF, this little gal literaly pissed 2 quarts! I finished dressing and got the hell out, still LOL. As a side note, about 1/3 of the Police were armed, but I would not make the walk after dark because of all the stuff going on. I stopped at a Taco rest. On Calle Primera, 3 fish tacos & 2 Caronas =$5. With a smile on my face, it was back across the border. Cost of my "trip", girl=25, room=3, tacos& beer=5 parking at the Gateway inn=4. Total cost=37, Mongering on a Monday afternoon= Priceless. Have fun & be safe.

Jamesj

[Bbennett]

Below is the "How To" guide to Tijuana.. It has everything you need to know, in detail. (please note all of this is available in the ISG)

Brockton O'Toole's Tijuana FAQFirst off, thanks to Sandiegoman for posting this thorough guide to TJ. I have been about 5 times and he is right on the money with everything. To anyone looking to go, read it and MEMORIZE it before going. You will not have a problem.

I have to register a complaint about the Adelita Bar though. It seems that the 'knocks' on the hotel door are coming earlier and earlier. They can be quite persistant and I have had up to 3 knocks while finishing my business. This is very annoying.

I was told that at Chicago Club you take as long as you need, though the report seems to indicate they may just be a bit more lax on knocking. A group of us are going very soon and were thinking about trying Chicago for a change. If anyone can provide more info on this, it would be great.

As for Adelitas and the whole scene down there, the question I get asked most often is if the girls are really that hot. The answer, yes. I have brought many doubting people to TJ and they were amazed and drooling over the women. You will find the girl of your dreams here. Two other tips not to be understated is to be clear on everything before going to the hotel. This includes if all of their clothes will be removed. I have had girls refuse to fully remove their tops for some odd reason. The other tip is to have $1 ready upon leaving your room. If the room guy does not remind you, the guy at the front desk will and the girl will as well. Be ready to give it to the guy walking the halls as a tip.

There seems to be a lot of questions about security as well. I recently looked into this and I follow events in TJ as close as I can. They had a few high profile shootouts last year between drug gangs. The TJ police were corrupt and there were many problems. This, along with new re-entry requirements to the US, have dropped tourism in TJ about 95%. This is affecting all of TJ. They brought in the federal police and are doing everything to keep TJ safe. I am told that is has never been safer.

While I do not have any reservations about going here, read and follow the guide. You still do not want to wander off into areas not outlined in the guide or try to walk to the zona to save $5.

If anyone has any other thoughts on crime problems here recently, please let me know.

[Clicker619]

Can i use a photocopy of my birth certificate or is an original required? Has there been better service and lower pricing since 'tourism' dropped?

[Joe Coodidge]

Can i use a photocopy of my birth certificate or is an original required? Has there been better service and lower pricing since 'tourism' dropped?

I think you need a real passport now. My parents just went down there on a vacation bus tour and they told them they needed to bring passports.

J

[Newrelic]

You do not need a passport but you do need a driver's license and a certified birth certificate. It needs to have a stamped seal to show that's it's real.The poster who was worried about catching STD's from oral sex , there's a simple solution: wear a raincoat. That way you will have no worries. TJ is always an adventure. The nice thing about Tj is no legal worries. Be cool don't bring or use any drugs and you'll be fine.Those websites have all the info a newbie needs to venture over there.

[ECCrawler]

I've almost memorized the newbie's guide. What are the Sunday hours for the various bars in ZN? (I did a quick search of the TJ Intl forum using "hours of operation" and didn't get anything). I'm going to have Sunday open for exploring south of the border, thinking about in the afternoon. I won't have time to play any other day as my stay in SD is short. I realize the selection may not be so great on a Sunday and not quite the typical nighttime hustle and bustle. It will be my first visit to TJ.

Thanks for the help!

[Mtnman2000]

Hey fellas,

I'm going to San Diego this Thursday and leaving Saturday night.

I want to goto TJ Thursday afternoon/night and Friday night. I'm renting a car most likely while in town and will stay on one of the border towns.

Looking for someone to join me.

Edit: I mean I'm looking for someone to hang with and cross the border with. This is my first time in TJ and I'm going off the guide entirely.

[Blklatpilot]

Cali native here... Nice that Adelitas and Chicago are still going strong after all these years. Had a trip to SD in March but couldn't get down to TJ.

Crossing the border back into the USA requires proof of citizenship:
passport book
passport card
other DHS/State Dept approved travel document like SENTRI, NEXXUS etc

The combo of DL + official birth certificate will be valid for land and sea entries until mid 2009 after then, you have to get one of the above.

The good news is State Dept has introduced a passport card. It is only good for land and sea border crossings back into the USA but if you're in the SoCal area or cross into Canada or Mexico a lot, this DL sized card is handy and more sturdy than the passport book.

Any US citizen can get one, I have a regular passport book but I'm getting the card as well even though I live in Colorado. For those instances where I'm required/demanded to show ID, I prefer IDs that don't show my address like the passport card.

Oh and the best part of the passport card ...the fee is $20 if you already have a passport but if you're getting a passport for the first time, then it's $45 as opposed to $100 for a first time passport book.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

Happy hunting. Will report the next time I make it to TJ which I intend to do even if I have to, uh, "miss" my flight and spend another night.

[Mtnman2000]

Hey fellas,

I did a little more of RTFF (more than yesterday) and have a couple questions.

Cigars: I read this place is a certified Cuban dealer, La Casa Del Habano. Is there a place anyone can vouch for cubans in the Zona Roja? I plan on using a credit card for this purchase.

Adelitas: How do you pronounce this? So I can tell a cab how to get to it?

Hong Kong: I'm going to check out this new place since their renovations and report back.

Chicago Club: I cant fuck all the time so I'll check this out too.

Photos: Whats the thought on taking a digital camera with me? Bad idea? Good idea? My fellow mongers in Denver would appreciate the pics I think. A camera phone works but I got a nice dig camera that is awesome. I dont want to be the village idiot with the camera but I'm going by myself.

Wallet situation: I dont have much experience with brothels. Mostly streetwalkers, AMPs, escorts. Do you have a strategy for your wallet? Empty it out and take just want you need? How careful are you?

Pesos: Any reason to get pesos?

I plan on hitting everything and making a fun record of my adventure there. I'll probably drop a cialis on the way in and have a boner for the next 5 hours while I'm there. Going for the record!!

Its too bad I dont know anyone down there. I have no problem getting a hooker by myself, its just the hanging out part which would be fun to have a buddy with. If anyone is available, shoot me a PM on the usa site via mtnman2000. If any of you goto Denver, look me up.

Go Broncos!!!!! Haha.


Cobra: thanks and we can go another time, get your passport!

[Blklatpilot]

Adelitas ===> ahhdayLEEtas

I remember reading a TJ mongering board a while back that said you *might* be able to use a camera. Show respect though and always ask a barman if it would be okay to take photos and offer to show them to him in case they want any deleted. As for the girls, it was reported that some girls won't mind having photos taken for an extra $5-$10 if you don't show her face. Tell her it's for you to remember her by, not for your pervy internet buddies!

Wallet...when traveling in dicey areas here or international and while out hiking, I use the Amphipod Micropack (bought it at the main REI in Denver)

http://amphipod.com/155/155.html

It'a a pouch that fits inside your pants and then clips securely to your waistband. It's never been pickpocketed yet! It holds money, credit cards, DLs, passports etc. I recommend you take your cash, passport and maybe one credit card if you're going to also make it a shopping trip and plan on getting something expensive.

[SgtPerv]

This is very important for you to have. Stay inbounds cause outside may not be safe. Sorry but you will have to piece together.

[SgtPerv]

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[Mtnman2000]

Hey fellas,

So I arrived in San Diego this morning and had the rest of the afternoon to kill before I had to be at a dinner.

First of all, my conference is near Old Town, which is pretty much the center of San Diego. I read that I could stay cheaper in Chula Vista and since both were on the trolley, I could save some dough. Where I'm from, if you see a city, like Denver and another town outside of it, that means you drive through a rural section for a bit. Out here, its one giant Mexico-city like sprawl, unending as far at the eye can see. There really is no separation of places here. Further, its about a 90 minute trolley ride from Old Town to E Street/Chula Vista. A rental car would have been better.

So I take the trolley to the border and its packed with workers, tourists and who knows what else. This older lady needed a seat so I stood up and gave it to her. A little bit later I'm talking to these two guys nearby who are going to a sports book. They ask me where I'm going and I say in a low voice, 'Adelita'. They laugh and yell it out. Then they start giving me advice, also very loud, how to talk the girls prices down and so on. The whole flipping car knew I was going. Its funny now because I didn't know anyone but my charming nice guy image was ruined in the eyes of the elderly woman next to me.

The guide is pretty much right on except a few minor points.

First of all, the trek from the border to the Zona is very long. I wouldn't walk it unless I was in a 10k race. It does go through some tough neighborhoods too. I cant under any reason see why someone would not pay the fare and walk. By the way, the far is $4 or $5 with a $1 tip.

My taxi driver was told to goto Adelita and instead took me to Purple Rain and he turned off his engine and acted like he didn't understand me. Then the people from Purple Rain came out hassled me to come inside. I probably would have if this jerk taxi guy didn't do it. I put the dollar I had out back in my pocket and told him to take me to Adelita He still asked for the buck and I laughed. I'm an asshole.

When I saw Adelita at 2pm, there were about 20 girls leaning against the walls and I was stunned. I've never seen anything like this. My experience has always been escorts, AMPs, or streetwalkers. I've never seen decent looking women for sale, cheaply. I walked past Adelita and basically walked around the block to Hong Kong which is sorta opposite inside corner. As I walked by the hookers, they would make a sound like, “shoo-shoo”. Some of the girls were 7s, maybe 8s. Some were bad but most had a good body. They had that nice YOUNG latin trim body, with no pooge yet.

I went to Hong Kong and the girls weren't really better inside than outside overall. There were a few stars but the average wasn't that good. A lot of heavy girls were there. I sat next to a Mexican guy and we had a beer each. The beers were $3.5 but they ask for $5. I paid it. This Mexican guy told me never to pay for a bar girl because they are too expensive, never pay for a motel room. Just pay $20 on a weekday, and possibly $30 on a weekend. He said never pay up-front. He also mentioned the $1 towel tip. Btw, he didn't want anything from me. I think he genuinely was a nice guy.

The hottest looking girls were being groped already or I moved too slowly. I finished my beer and promised him I was going to get laid and come back and have another. So I goto Adelita and break all the rules he gave me. Adelita is the best place by far. Nothing was close in terms of hot women and quantity of hot women.

I picked a 9 out. I cant think of why she wasn't a 10 other than there isn't supposed to be any 10s in there. Her name was 'Candy' and she was probably 100 lbs, size 1 with huge C cup boobs. Beautiful face, great legs, arms, lips, the whole package. She said she was GFE, loved to kiss, suck dick and her English was good. She talked but didn't act very enthusiastic which should have been a warning sign I think. So I tried to pay after, but she had none of that. I tried to not pay for the room but she didn't agree to that either. So I paid for the room, $12, her $60 (no negotiating on that one) and we got down to business. Oh yes, my pepsi was $5, her drink was $7.

She got out a sheet, spread it over the bedspread, took off her clothes, laid down and spread her legs. Here I am staring down at this hot chick with a limp dick and I'm wondering what is wrong with me. Why aren't I ramrod straight pulverizing her? The whole thing was asexual. She wanted me to jack myself off to hard, put on the condom and fuck her. No kissing. No nothing. Finally she put the condom on my limp dick and started this terrible blowjob. It took me a long time to get hard and I was thinking about what bullshit this all was. Finally, she gets me hard and rolls over and wants me to do her doggy. I enter her and she starts to moan in a terribly fake pathetic way. This entire experience sucked. I've nailed hot girls before, some paid, some not and this chick wasn't worth it. Oh yes, she asks me for the $1 for the towel guy. I give it to her. She keeps it. The towel guy now wants me to give him $1. I'm thinking wtf.

As I leave, some guy in an Adelitas shirt asks me if I had a good time and I thought he meant he wanted my opinion. I tried to talk to him and he finally interrupted me and asked me if I had a good time again. Yeah.

So 10 minutes later, I pick up a really cute girl, similar description off the street. $20 for fucking only. Oh yeah, the guide says negiotiate everything up-front. I forget. The exact same thing happens except she doesn't take her clothes off. She gets on all fours and pulls her underwear to the side. What kind of fucking animals am I meeting? There is no blowjob to get me hard because that's extra I find out. No fondling, no nothing. I finally convince her to suck my nipple and jack me off. Then I get the condom on and fuck her silly from behind. It took me a long time and pounded the shit out of her. I really wanted to let her feel this one.

Still unsatisfied. I'm getting bothered by “friends” who want to help me. I told one I wanted a blowjob, no condom but a hot girl. He says no problem and he literally runs down the street, going from streetwalker to streetwalker to ask. He finds one. Demands money up-front. Fuck no. He agrees to later then. So I ask her, “suckie, no condom?” and she shakes her head. Condom stay.

So I blow him off and walk around the neighborhoods. One block away from Adelita and the action stops practically. There are brothels everywhere with barkers trying to entice you go in. I go inside a few and most are so dark I cant make out the women until they have their arms around me. Most are dead with 1-4 women inside.

I have some time to kill so I start asking most of the petite streetwalkers for a “suckie, no condom.” Most say no. I passed a really old hooker who looked like Sophia Loren but aging skin. She looked great for her age and I wondered if she catered to older dudes or something. I pass a late 30's, early 40's hooker who also probably looked great back in the day. I passed her and she brushed her hand against me and I considered that she has a lot of competition at her age. She might take me up. I turned around and she must have that 7th hooker sense and spun around.

I gave her $20 and she got the room and I got a 30 minute hard core blowjob from Bonita. I felt bad for her. She really tried hard and her mouth was getting tired. I had to hold her head still and basically fucked her face for the last 5 minutes. I came all over her face and she seemed pretty cool with it. I think one would have been fun in bed.

I had to make it back for dinner so I left at 5pm.

$5 trolley pass
$6 taxi in
$5 beer
$12 another beer and Candy's drink
$61 Candy
$12 Adelita room
$20 for streetwalker fucking
$20 for Bonita's blowjob
$5 taxi out

$146 for three blows – granted the first two were really lame. So far my experience is that I dont really get any value. I'm way past just fucking a great looking chick. If she cant fuck like a pro, I dont want her around me. The streetwalkers are ahead in my opinion in terms of value.

Police were everywhere. I felt pretty safe staying on my on block.

There was a 10 minute line to walk out and go through customs.

Tropical was dead. Didn't find the Chicago.

There was a huge line of cars trying to get out. Taxis skipped this freeway jam.

I'm going to hit it again tomorrow night.

[SgtPerv]

Keep an eye on the arch . It is a great reference point. The arch is in the (Revolution St) tourist area and is safe. When I roam, I use it to keep my bearings. Stay out of the bars on that street they are all rip-off bars for tourist that are not informed.

[Taepo Dong]

The good news is State Dept has introduced a passport card. It is only good for land and sea border crossings back into the USA but if you're in the SoCal area or cross into Canada or Mexico a lot, this DL sized card is handy and more sturdy than the passport book.

Any US citizen can get one, I have a regular passport book but I'm getting the card as well even though I live in Colorado. For those instances where I'm required/demanded to show ID, I prefer IDs that don't show my address like the passport card.

Oh and the best part of the passport card ...the fee is $20 if you already have a passport but if you're getting a passport for the first time, then it's $45 as opposed to $100 for a first time passport book.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

Happy hunting. Will report the next time I make it to TJ which I intend to do even if I have to, uh, "miss" my flight and spend another night.I noticed that you have to mail in your current passport book to get the passport card. I assume you get your passport book back when you get the card as well? Anyone has experience or input on this.

TIA.

Spunky168
"The Original Taepo Dong"

[Mtnman2000]

Went again tonight and had a better time than last night for sure. First off, thanks to the replies and Pms, offers to go hang. Sorry we couldn't connect.

Unlike last night, I popped a cialis. I don't think it did shit tonight. Do you build up a resistance to it? Does alcohol deaden it? Didn't need it but I was hoping for some longer sport fucking. I average one pill per 3 months.

Tonight, 8pm, Hong Kong hadn't opened their expansion yet and it was a good, crowded place. I like the atmosphere of Hong Kong more than Adelitas because you can check out women, go upstairs, more dancers and stuff like that. Adelitas still has way more hot women than anything. However, tonight Hong Kong opened their expansion and is a much bigger and nicer club than anything else. I wouldn't be surprised to see a flip in dominance.

Met a very enthusiastic girl from Hong Kong, lean, pretty face, everything you want in the looks and she was pretty fun to talk too. I took my time with this one by having her sit on my lap, danced for me, rubbed her ass against me. I was soooo ready when we went to the room. The sex was good, not great.

My baseline is streetwalkers who are nasty, you wouldn't consider kissing but know how to suck a dick usually. Then you have the craigslist girls (in Denver, they are major step down but not elsewhere I understand) which are terrible value and then you have escorts that give GFE like kissing and deepthroat blowjobs. So being here, these girls are escort hot but their sex is terrible compared to an escort.

I also want to point out some typical Mexican bullshit that should surprise noone. In Hong Kong, every time I put my beer down, as opposed to holding it, some fucking waiter would snatch it. The whole wait staff scene there is really obnoxious. After they snatched two nearly full beers, I complained and they basically said, “who took it?” I pointed at the guy and he said, “noooooooooOOOOOoooo”. The manager said sorry, and wouldn't give me a beer. It's Mexico. Like the 'TIA' saying in Africa when things make no sense, 'this is Africa.'

I digress.

I walk around the block and I saw some psychotic looking chick that was actually pretty hot walking around with a huge smile. She was tripping and it almost made me feel like home again. Haha. Seriously, this lady had raven red hair swept back, pointy eyebrows, big smile, 30ish, petite. She had that addict walk. Very devil like. For me, its the thrill as much as that warm, moist feeling around my dick. I just KNEW this chick was going to be crazy in bed. I was wrong. She couldn't suck dick to save her life. We put her condom on and I had to fuck the shit out of her to get my nut. I held one thigh up in the air with my shoulder and nailed the shit out of her. It was OK.

Note: Absolutely bring your own condoms. Another repeat mistake I made. The standard condom down there is something like 4 mil plastic. It's not good.

So I want to goto Adelitas to cool down. I flirt with some girls but when they realize I don't want to buy them a drink or fuck RIGHT now, they leave. Understandable. I think I need some air and as I'm walking out, two girls are arguing with a manager and both walk out angry at this guy. One girl catches her heel in the a crack and pitches forward. Her head would have smacked into the ground if I didn't catch. She is very thankful, kisses me on the cheek and says, “We just quit, were going to go get fucked up and sing karaoke. Want to join us?” Yeah baby, I do.

The girl that tripped was a very nice looking lady like my first. Her friend had a killer body but so so face. With both girls on my arms, we walked about 4 blocks away to some dive bar where we were the only ones there and they sang karaoke. They paid for their own drinks because I told them I wasn't buying them. They asked but when I said my bit, they still hang all over me. It was a wonderful feeling NOT paying them and getting all this love.

After we did a round of tequila shots, I said lets all go get a room together. They wanted $120, I said all I had was $80 and they agreed to threesome, no clothes, blowjobs without condom, both doing a blowjob at the same time, full service. I was delighted. Learning. Btw, all I did have was $80 (plus $5 for taxi home).

So we walk back to Adelitas, and then another 5 blocks. This junkie looking guy keeps following us and yelling things to them and they respond back. Its annoying like most of the 'helpers' around.

We finally goto the room, and they ask me for money for the room. I tell them all I have is $80 again. They seem deflated. Like they were hoping I'd pull some gold out of my ass or something.

So we goto the room and finally got a wonderful blowjob. Both knew their shit and were looking scrotum and everything. I was fucking loving it. Wheels were turning in my head. 'I'm fucking coming back again, with more money, oh yeah....'. And then that junkie guy comes into the room suddenly. I swore I locked the door. I shoved him out and was yelling. Chaos was here. The girls were yelling at me in Spanish at me and I'm ready to brawl. They give the guy their money and he leaves. I tell them that was bullshit. I'm limp. Phone rings. Time is up. They were gone at the 15 minute mark.

I was stunned. It seemed we had a good repertoire and I wouldn't get treated like this. It had so promise was really the most disappointing thing about it.

On the way back, I met two really cool friends who gave me a ride back to my hotel. Thanks guys.

Not sure if I'm going back tomorrow but thanks everyone for the responses and stuff. If I were a local, I think I could get better at getting what I wanted. Not much info on specific names here I noticed but that would help a lot.

[SgtPerv]

First of all, you write excellent reviews. I wish I had your talent. When I go to TJ I always take a collapsable beer bottle cooler. No one can just grab it on "accident" (waiters). When not using it I simply put in my back pocket. Sorry about your threesome ending. The girls had to unlock the door and let him know which room you were in or front desk was in on it. That is the problem with more then one girl in room, keeping an eye on both. When I go, I get a room at Nelsons ($40) right by the arch on Rev. Ave. There I know there is one way up and it is guarded by the desk. When someone follows and girls are talking in a language you do not know, it is wise to change plans as they know it. Have them give you a choice of a couple places and then you pick without them contacting someone else. I have mongered in a few countries where I have no idea what is said. Every time they talk to others I change plans. I totally can relate to your adventures around the zona. I use to go every summer for 3-4 days at a time in TJ. I am sure you can see why after the third night I had to go. I know I would get in trouble by getting caught up in the playground and relaxing to much. You HAVE TO keep your head on a sweval at all times. It is like any big city in USA there are those that would do you harm. I am planning to go this summer, it been two years to long. Did they still have the live lesbo shows at Hong Kong? Did you find Chicagos? I loved that place. You can see it from Adelitas when you leave there to your right out the door. Go a few yards and look 10 o'clock. Taxis all out front. You go to corner, cross street then right away to your left cross that street an you are there.

[SgtPerv]

I was just trying to picture where you where walking with the girls ( 4 blocks to bar then back to Adelitas then 5 blocks to room). Man you have some stones between your legs. You had to be in areas I would not go solo in daylight and I do not have good sense. You are lucky man. I am a zona, Rev. Ave . type guy with little flex. At night I walk at a fast rate like I have a purpose, closer to the street and away from doorways ( not scared type walk ) out of zona to Nelson Hotel by arch. Out of all my trips I have had two bad experiences. First one was a pick pocket attempt. A girl came up to me at night in zona and asked for a smoke. I gave her one and while I was lighting it for her she was scrathing at my little man. I was loving it trying to look cool when I noticed she had my money ( paper) worked up my pocket. I grabbed her hand as she grabbed the money and did a little twist on it. She dropped to her knee in pain as I was still holding and twisting on the wrist. As she is dropping the money I looked all around ( I was a little frighten cause I was a little intoxicated) I see a guy in the shadows with his hands up kinda laughing about what was happening. I picked up my money,let her go and got to a better lit area. Second time I had a bad experience was when I was in a little shit bar in the zona. My dumb ass had to explore all nucks and cranies. The place offered a two for one on a shot of tequila with beer. I drank the first shot and sipped on beer. The bartender was trying to get me to drink the second one right away but I refused. A few minutes later I was not feeling right kinda confined. I walked out the front door . The next thing I remembered, I sort of woke up walking. I was in an area I had never been in before. Once again I was a little concerned for my safty, it is night time again. So I stop look around, could not see arch. I decided to turn around and walk in the opposite direction I was going. Two blocks later and extra filling in my pants (lol) I was back in the zona. I had to have been drugged. I bet the second shot would have knocked me out. Those two experiences happened my first three day trip to TJ. I have never had any trouble since. Both were drinking related so I watch the alcohol in take and no shots. I was very lucky and so were you my man. We have to be careful cause it is so easy to relax with all the chicas around. My first trip was in 2000. I did not know about this forum or anything about TJ. I found Nelson Hotel on accident and the zona. I had a buddy with me. We stubbled around the hard way. We were dumb enough to drive over the border. We parked in the lot on Rev. Ave to walk around . We happened to drive in the zona during our initail drive in TJ and reconized the street girl so we parked in what was close and safe. From there Nelson Hotel was close to both car and zona. My dumb ass was walking the zona at three in the morning solo. I wont do now. People read the international sex guide forum.

Be safe Be smart.

[SgtPerv]

Mtnman2000, you got me thiking. My third trip to TJ (four day trip) I had things down pat. I would roam the zona looking for chicas for the night in my hotel room. I would set up meeting times in zona 1 hour apart in order of preference in case one did not show. I got my first choice (7:00 p. M.) and took her to a club first outside zona. She told me she was not allowed wihout a male escort. We danced I drank but she only wanted one juice drink. She said the drinks were too expensive. I was thinking it is my money why do you care. After a couple hours she asked to go to my room. We go and she wants to shower with me right away. After the shower I asked her whats she likes as for as sex and she says what ever I want to do. Wow! I kept in normal. Multible times. At about 4:00 am she says she has to leave so her"brother" can go to work without her house being broke into. I give her $100 and she said she will see me tomorrow same place and time. I was thinking sure I bet. Well the next evening I am in the zona just coming out of a hotel with a street girl and here she comes running up to me. I am thinking oh shit I am in trouble now. She acts like nothing is wrong at all just glad to see me while showing me the new clothes, hair and makeup she bought with the money I gave her. Damn I was in shock. I needed smokes so she takes me to a little store that I had been in before. She asked for some money and what I wanted. She gets the smokes for 75 cents a pack. I was charged $1. 25 when I tried the day before. She gives me back all my change and told me to let her order things. Sweet. Next we ate a taco. Her price 50 cents I was paying $1. 25. She says they always charge tourist more then locals. This kinda stuff went on even at bars. 75 cent a beer. Once again back to the room til about 4:00 am now she wants no money cause I have been so nice to her and treated her so well. I was only being a gentleman. She says meet her again tomorrow. We meet and have great time by now I am feeling like a real ass because I am starting to think of her as a nice person instead of a toy. So I had to change rooms for the last night to avoid her. My buddy thought I was crazy cause of the free pussy. I just could not keep using her like that. Anyways we leave TJ and return a year later, I run into her first hour in zona. She looks at me and I ask her if she knows me and she says yes and tells me my name and what we did. Wow! This time I was with an extra two buddies so I tell her I want to show these guys the area real quick but I will be back in 30 min. When I come back she is not there. No real surprise. So I go over to Chicago Club for a beer and lick my wounds. After about half a beer, in walks my regular tj buddy with this same girl. I am now thinking he brought her to me. Wrong he starts bragging to me how he found her (where I left her) and he was going to do the over night thing with her. He does not remember who she is. I do not tell him. He is happy as can be to have her. They leave so now I find another for the night. We had rooms next to each other. He keeps her until we leave TJ at the same time periods as I did only charging him $150 a night. On the trip thorough Cal. He is talking about her, what she would do, so I say do you remember the girl I had last year and he says yes she was hot too. I say that they are the same person. He had the strangest look on his face when he realize I was not joking. He asked why I did not tell him earlier and I said he seemed happy and she was not complaining. He said he was getting hooked on her and now understands way I did what I did last year. She was a GFE for sure. There are diamonds out in the zona. They are human with feelings. I do not treat them like US streetwalkers but I still do not trust them completely. Sorry was just thinking about it again.

[Travel Guy]

All you need to do is print off a passport application, just like you are aplying for a new passport.Form DS-11 02-2008. On the top of the page it is asking if you want a passport or a passport card. Check the card and fill out an take it to your County Clerks office , with your current passport, I would also take a drivers liecense and birth Certificate. They will notarize it an send it off for you.

Im not sure if you can do it by mail.

Hope this helps

[Mtnman2000]

SgtPerv,

I went to Chicago's and it was pretty dead. About 4-5 girls, same in clients, big, open and empty. Infact, I went to alot of the small places nearby. If a barker was asking me to come in, he would follow me in, all excited like and then a waiter would see me and he would get all excited and then I'd see 3 fat chicks at a booth and leave. The looks on their faces was priceless.

On the locations we went too, it never seemed to be dark, dangerous or anything out of the ordinary. Yes, I could have got drugged. Didn't think about that one. The bar I went to, was on the same street, same side as Adelitas. You walked a few blocks, and walked down about 3 steps into this bar that had a big screen and karaoke bar.

I forgot to mention the food. If you do a lap around the Adelitas/Hong Kong block, there are some nice food vendors. The food is cheap and good.

Nice story about the girl you found. I'm sure I could find more diamonds next time. I got the scene down and just takes some work. One thing I would do is probably ask for specific girl recommendations from guys around there.

You guys in the San Diego area are lucky to have it so good. I think I'm going to consider a Costa Rica trip soon. Thanks for everything.

[Blklatpilot]

I noticed that you have to mail in your current passport book to get the passport card. I assume you get your passport book back when you get the card as well? Anyone has experience or input on this.

IF YOU HAVE A CURRENT PASSPORT BOOK THAT ISN'T EXPIRED
You can get the passport card for only $20. The way they work it is that you need to apply using the form DS-82 (Application for Passport by Mail) that you would normally use to renew a passport. They're calling the first-time issuance of a passport card to someone with a passport book a "renewal".

If you apply this way, you MUST mail in your existing passport book with the DS-82. They will send the passport book back to you in about 2-3 weeks along with a note stating they'll send the passport card later. Look for the cards to start production by June.

IF YOU HAVE A CURRENT PASSPORT BOOK BUT DON'T WANT TO MAIL IT IN
You can avoid sending in your passport book by applying with the first-time passport application form DS-11. BUT if you go that route, you'll have to have your birth certificate, apply in person at the post office or county clerk/court and pay the extra $25 execution fee.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A PASSPORT
You will have to apply IN PERSON at a passport application center (post office, county clerk, some courts, some libraries). You apply with the form DS-11. You'll need proof of citizenship (birth certificate, adoption decree etc), gov't issued photo ID (DL, ID card, military ID, tribal card etc) and of course the fees. Fees for a passport card are $45....$20 for the card and $25 processing fee for the place that takes your application.

NOTE unless you apply at one of the 13 State Dept Passport Agencies, the place you turn in your application is NOT the place that makes the passports! They can't even tell you if you'll be approved or not. Their only job is to take in your application, review it, write down your ID information on the application, give you the oath and then send off your application, the fees and your proof of citizenship to a State Dept facility that will actually decide if you get the passport and then produce it.

IMPORTANT NOTE
Not that any of you gents fall into this category but...One reason that you will be denied a passport is if you are being reported as delinquent on child support. I know a guy who shows up on a delinquency roster for child support and got denied his passport. Problem is he paid the money to his ex but he sent the money directly to her not to some county agency. When he showed copies of the money orders and her letter saying she got the money, the county told him tough shit--any monies that don't go through the county is considered a gift! So even though the "kids" are grown and have kids of their own, the county wants that "past due" $8,000 to make it all go away. Until he can get that resolved, the State Dept will not issue him a passport. So, he and his current wife have to go on their cruise this year while it's still okay to use a DL+birth certificate for cruises.

[Blklatpilot]

Mtnman2000, I forgot about your pesos question. Did you find out on your own that the Greenback carries more weight in TJ than pesos? What's funny is that isn't true for all Mexico. Vacationed in Puerto Vallarta and VERY few places took US dollars. Luckily ATMs were plentiful. I was ashamed to be American while at this one dive hole in the wall because this yuppie family (mom, dad, 2 kids, probably drive a Town & Country) came in to have dinner. Then the complaints started, "Don't you have Pepsi?" "Ewww these chips taste funny!" etc. And then the biggie from dad: "What do you mean you don't take dollars! These are worth more than your money!" Asshole! He was pissed that he had to leave the family and go down the block to an ATM. heh when he came back he was muttering about the damned machine only had instructions in Spanish. Welcome to Mexico, dick.

I digress.

Some of the safety tips given to US chicas hitting the bars holds true when in the dicey areas of TJ...avoid dark spaces if traveling alone, only drink beers that you personally open or see being opened, try about 1/4 of the drink and get a fresh one if it seems funky etc. Or, if you can find them, carry a couple of those cardboard coasters that will change color if exposed to X, roofie etc. It goes without saying that you should never leave your drink unattended when you go to the toilet.

Hahaha I remember that beer stealing bullshit from years ago when I hit TJ on a semi-regular basis. That's a good tip about the beer coozie. If you wanted a place to stay, you coulda called my ex-g/f in Chula Vista. Of course you'd want to kill yourself as she's a black hole of emotional want and need.

Cialis can take affect in about 30 min. If you're taking it for sport sex it should be in full force after about 60-90 minutes. You should be good to go for up to 12 hours. Yeah yeah I know the commercial says 36 hours but I have yet to get that long from one tablet. I have 20mg tablets and usually take one at lunch the day I'm going to hit my favorite AMP. I also have Levitra which I got with a bogus script and alternate between the two. Finally made it to Bali Spa and the Levitra kept me like iron for the entire hour!

You are correct on the condom issue...ALWAYS bring your own! No telling what kind of saran wrap bullshit they're going to have. Plus, you'll have your own familiar brand.

[SgtPerv]

In my experience, if you are going to spend a lot of money, pesos in absolutely the way to go. Let us say the conversion is (it changes all the time) is $10 US = 110 pesos. Now when dealing with " people" if something is say 200 pesos they will want $20. 00 US which is 20 pesos more ($1. 10 US). That seems small and it is but if you are there for a few days or a frequent visitor and spend say $500 US by using pesos you would have saved $27. 50. Thats a free streetgirl. LOL You save even more through any tipping (cause you can beat them at there game and act like you do not know your being cheap). Now if you are going to spend $50-$60 US once then it might not be worth it to you. When my dumb ass goes for extended stay trip I spend over $1000 US. That is chicas, smokes, food, hotel, drinking and shopping. They do sell more then chicas there. Carton of cigs are less then $13 dollars US. Now we are talking around $60 U. S savings. Still not enough to fill your gas tank now days but why give it to them?

So really depending on your spending is what you should do. One last benefit from using pesos is look like you have been there before and will be treated better. Being treated better adds to your savings.

Just my two cents.

[SgtPerv]

For those who worry about the confusion/hassle of what you are paying with pesos, do not worry. It is easy if think each 10 pesos is 1 US dollar. You will stay ahead of the game. For example if they want $3. 00 US for a beer, they will take 30 pesos (money your favor you saved 30 cents US) Simple. If you hand someone 200 pesos, think in your head, it is $20 US (again money in your favor you saved 20 pesos or $2) Simple. All you have to do is move the decimal point. By doing this, money stays in your favor, you now can bargain/haggle with ease and confidence. I do it even after swallowing the dead worm drinks. LOL It is that simple, Hardest part is getting use to feel and look of their money which you do sober and in the light. Change your money at the border or withdraw pesos out of ATM (you have a choice of currency). Your savings add up because it seems like you Know what your are doing and that makes for better deals. THINK. Pesos = Dimes. When they tell me a number in pesos I think that number in dimes.

[SgtPerv]

Thought this might help some. Gives current exchange rates.

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=80&from=USD&to=MXN&submit=Convert

[Manifoso2002]

I'm military moving to socal in a few weeks from Tampa, I'm lookin to take a trip to tj but I neew any adivse/suggestions I could get for a day trip.

Thanks

[SgtPerv]

I am prior service and did some army duty at Ft. Irwin. First of all even though it happens all the time, you are not authorized to leave the country without written permission. So at the most you say you are going to San Deago. What branch and where are you going to be stationed? Second you should already have a passport if not get one. You should at least take your birth certificate with you. Military ID works but you are not suppose to be there in first place. You want to kinda play down the military unless you get in trouble. It is a great help then. Copy the maps I have posted they are very accurate and carry them. Keep your eye on the arch in TJ. It will help keep your bearings at all times. In fact, if you taxi over, the arch (el arco) is where you want to tell the cabby to take you ($5 at most). This will keep cabbie from trying to switch your destination. In Mexico you sit in the front seat of the cab. BRING YOUR OWN CONDOMS there condoms are like car tires. The most important thing you can do is read the isg forum for TJ. So read forum, bring own condoms, go to and keep eye on arch and carry map. That should about do it. Oh border crossing you need passport or birth certificate. I will post a link. READ READ Anymore just ask.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146 http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2634 Read them both.

[Chica Chaser]

I am breaking this one up into 3 days

I have just come out of a weekend that has taken me all day today to come down from and gather my thoughts and relive the experiences and write this all up. WOW! I have seen and done some things that this late 40's gringo never thought were possible, but nevertheless, I did. Sorry but this is going to be a long one.

First of all; I am posting this link to Efjayel's TJ monger map from the Intl board:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2448/tj2copyuc1.gif

I found it invaluable for getting around and knowing where things are. I got tired of trying to find it a half-dozen times over the weekend so I am posting it here for easier future access. If you go to TJ, just print it out and stick it in your pocket. I used it many times on-site for reference.

Anyways, I arrived in San Diego Friday night and checked into the HIE in Chula Vista as it is only 2 miles from the border right off 805. (Side note: There were at least 2 CL girls working out of here as evidenced by the steady stream of men going into and out of a couple rooms just down from mine. Might have partook but I was on a mission this weekend)

I have been in TJ many times before but never to the Zona, just in the area around the crossing. So I parked behind the JIB and walked across, jumped in a cab "Adileta's, por favor” 5 minutes and 5 bucks later I am at the front door. I had originally intended to just go scout the area out and get my bearings. So I pull aside the curtain and walk in; there is some guy doing a fire show on stage swinging and twirling these flaming things to a pounding drum beat.

The place was packed; I can’t say how many chicas were standing around and milling about, but easily 50, probably more. 99% of them were just drop-dead beautiful, and all available to take you upstairs. I felt like I died and went to chica heaven! Ordered a beer and was just watching from the sidelines when my eye caught the gaze of a pretty, huge breasted, Latina. She goes by Gabriella in club. She came right over and we started talking, well kinda, my espanol is pretty limited and her English was just as limited. Bought her a beer and eventually she invited me arriba (upstairs) .5 for 30 min plus .12 for room. I was very surprised as the "hotel" was actually clean and not run-down as I was expecting. DFK, CBJ, Mish, K9, 2 yes 2, pops and I am done. Tip the cum boy a buck when you leave. I seemed to really connect with this lady.

She was happy to give me her phone number so we could meet the next day when I returned to TJ, gratis, tomorrow. As it was 2am by now, I had sensory overload with the lights, music, street action, gorgeous ladies everywhere, food vendors, etc I left and caught a cab back to the border, no lines at the walk through at all and 10 minutes later crashed in my bed.

[Chica Chaser]

When I woke up Sat am I was thinking that she was just giving a bunch of shit about wanting to meet but I decided I should at least try to call her. She picked up immediately and we seemed to communicate better today, she seemed very excited that I actually called. She said she would pick me up at the border at 11am, she has a car. Call again right as I am about to go over the bridge and we meet in front of Mickey D’s. We immediately head for her apartment. She lives several miles from the border and I really had no idea that TJ is such a huge city beyond the border area, some areas nice and some not so nice. So we get to her place and right into her bed. This lady is insatiable with the legendary Latina fire and passion.

She was pretty good last night, but today OMG she flat wore me out. All of the above plus Greek, DATY and couple I’m not even sure of! Total GFE, except CFS, my choice. 3 pops in a couple hours and I’m done again. She wants to get something to eat so we head out again and end up at some Mexican restaurant and then seeing some sights around town with her as the tour guide. I want to go have a nap by now so back to her place. We sleep to together for another couple hours. I am then getting woken up with another BBBJ; there is nothing better than coming out of a deep sleep to the sounds and sensations of a pretty lady sucking your dick. We go another round with various positions, my dick is beginning to get sore as I haven’t seen this much action or been able to perform like this since I was a teenager. 1 pop.

We have a nice shower together and she starts getting ready for work. She drops me off at the border and I bid her adios with promise to call her next time in town. I head to my hotel again for a little R&R. By about 10pm I was charged up again so I grabbed a change of clothes and head back. Same routine but went to Hotel Nelson, by the arch, and got a cheap room there, .6 for the night as I was intending to do some drinking and didn’t want to be driving later. Not a bad place, had TV and decent bathroom.

Decided to really check out the SW scene so leave the hotel, turn left, down one block and turn right. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, chicas of every size and shape and look are lined up on the sidewalks waiting for a big gringo like me, I was back in chica heaven! I never even made it to the alley where there is supposed to be an even larger concentration.

Several were trying to get me to come to their room as I walked along. Finally made it to the next street (where Adilitas is) and this cute little chica corners me with her speaking decent English. She was maybe 4’11” 95lbs, maybe 18yo (I hope) and really pretty with that classic Latin look that I am so attracted to; petite, long black hair, dark complexion, classic beauty plus she was wearing the school dress uniform they wear in that area .2 + .05 for room, I said “sin ropa” + CBJ + sexo?, she says “.25” I say “OK, lets go”. Not nearly as satisfying she was somewhat lacking on the BJ skills but she could really take a pounding K9 style, ass up/face down. 1 pop.

Finished with her and adios and on to Chicago Club just down the street in next block. Not as nice inside as Adiletas but quite a bit slower, both with chicas and mongers. Sat at bar and was soon approached by Monica, another drop-dead gorgeous chica; 27yo, 5’2” 125lb but with a little nino belly damage, but not bad. Bought us both a drink, tequila shots, then another. She was getting wound up now so we head upstairs, same as before (.5 / 30min - .12 for room) another decent “hotel”. We didn’t connect like I did with Gabriella but wasn’t looking to either, she was pretty enthusiastic and I finished just within the half hour, CBJ, Mish, K9 to pop. 1 pop.

Not sure what time it is by now but I am getting worn out and want to head back to the Nelson to rest up a little (damn I’m getting too old for this shit!). Start up the hill and tell several chicas “no gracias, be back later”. Get a couple tacos at the hotel restaurant and get to my room for the night at 2am.

[Chica Chaser]

So I wake up around 10am Sunday, watch a little Spanish TV and get cleaned up and call the US hotel to request late check out. I really want to tap another Latina ass before I leave so I finally head for the alley behind Adelitas. What a change from Sat night to Sun am. Streets are much quieter but still a lot of people around and several SW chicas at their posts. I take my time walking now and stop to chat with many of the girls. Once I mention "sexo anal" most are turned off but finally find Maria/Marisol, something like that, down by Hong Kong club who’s willing to go for .4/ 30 min, as I wanted to take a little more time. She is older, late 20’s nice J Lo type ass. Went up to her room she does a little CBJ to get things up and running. She produced a bottle of lube from somewhere and we go with K9 Greek. It took a little while for her to get comfortable but then we were off to the races. Pounded her hard for about 15 minutes and finally came but barely made the rubber went inside, I was totally spent. She has a tiny little shower in this room so we both cleaned up with some damn cold water, got dressed and a quick adios to her.

Back to the Nelson to get my stuff and checkout, grab a cab back to the border. Again, no lines so I am back to my US hotel in 20 minutes. Grab a real shower, pack up and head to LA for another work week.

What a weekend for this old guy! For someone like me who is attracted to Latinas, this has been the finest few days I have ever had. They are literally wall-to-wall everywhere you look. All sizes, shapes, colors and backgrounds you can imagine and the best part; you can bang anyone of them you want! Just incredible! I think I could become addicted to TJ, or already am! Never had any problems with LE or felt in danger at any time. Just take cabs when crossing through town, or even better find a beautiful chica to drive you!

TJ Summary –
9 pops / 40 hrs
~$100 / Alcohol
~$170 / Chicas
~$300 / Room fees, cab rides, food, hotel, waiter tips, cum scrubber tips, doorman tips, cabbie tips, restroom attendant tips, bartender tips, panhandler donations

[Eboniman]

Thanks chica chaser. Because of your great report now I'm antsy azz hell and can't get to SD/TJ fast enough. (10 looooooong days to go) its been probably 13 years since I've been in the area (navy days). It'll be nice to be just a hop. Skip. Jump away from TJ again. Staying with a old navy buddy so saving on hotel fees. I figure fine chicas will probably get it from me anyway. LOL I saved the monger map and will see if I can put it to some good use.

[Chica Chaser]

Thanks chica chaser. Because of your great report now I'm antsy azz hell and can't get to SD/TJ fast enough. (10 looooooong days to go) its been probably 13 years since I've been in the area (navy days). It'll be nice to be just a hop. Skip. Jump away from TJ again. Staying with a old navy buddy so saving on hotel fees. I figure fine chicas will probably get it from me anyway. LOL I saved the monger map and will see if I can put it to some good use.

Have fun down there! Lets see a report here when you get back.

Got a couple PM's looking for digits for Gabriella, so I called her yesterday to see if it was OK to give to a few folks (NO!, sorry guys) She says if you want to see her come to Adelitas and and find her, buy her a drink and be nice I recommend you do.

While talking to her she was begging me to come back last night and she would take off work if I did. So being the nice guy that I am, told her I would be there in 2 hours, this is around 5pm. I decided against telling her about going to my new favorite AMP Monday night, see San Bernardino reports.

Called her when I was parking to pick me up at the Mickey D;s again. She was right there and off we go straigt to her apartment. If you guys have ever driven in TJ you know that it is an experience! She driving, trying to stroke my cock at the same time, I leaned over trying to keep the damn car on the road and not hit anyone.

We finally make it, go upstairs arm in arm and she literally attacks, tearing our clothes off. Never made it to the bedroom, barely got the front door closed! She engulfs my cock DT and licking the balls while all the way in. Said damn you didn't do that before, she says "I been practicing" while pointing at a bunch of bananas on the counter. Let me just say this absolutly the most insatible woman I have ever met, period. She can cum over and over and over again, any position, just look hard at her clit and shes cumming. DFK, DATY, Greek, DT, everything. She has the nicest and biggest natural tits, wow.

After thing calmed down a little, I was starving as I had no food since breakfast. She says let go somewhere nice and get a steak! Yeah, my kinda girl! So we shower (together) and a lot of playfulness and get dressed and head out. We go to a really nice steakhouse way away from downtown. I could never find it again if my life depended on it or what it was called, some spanish name that I was unfamiliar with. It was really fun watching other peoples reaction to us, she the little latina and me the big gringo (and the only one, in these parts of town)

Long story short, we ate, picked up some beer and back to her place. Had a really great time with her, spent the night and she drops me back at the border at 7am and I back to work just a little after 9am. I am just reminded of why I am attacted to latinas, the classic great looks sure, but the fire and passion that they all have is incedibly intoxicating. I also like the K-girls but they are not like the latina! This is shaping up to be quite a week.

[Az Dude]

great report! you almost have me wanting to head down TJ way again.. help us out here.. how about a description of Gabi so we can find her in AB? :-)

yes, I love latinas and k girls and all other types of girls!

[Sufferthepain]

Man. After reading so many great reports about TJ, it really makes me want to try something different than AMP since I live pretty close to the mexico boarder. The only reason keeping me from going to find some latino girls is the safety. I always heard dirty cops in mexico who will try to rob the tourist. I am just wondering if anyone is up for a TJ trip so we can go as a group.

Sorry this is my first time posting on this site.

[Chica Chaser]

great report! you almost have me wanting to head down TJ way again.. help us out here.. how about a description of Gabi so we can find her in AB? :-)

yes, I love latinas and k girls and all other types of girls!

She is 5'3" without the 4" stripper shoes, easily 36DD, 26/36, 27yo, long brown hair with those bleachy streaks. Not the best looking one in there but not bad at all. Just go in and look for the biggest natural pair of tits you can find, thats her. You will have weed out the silicone big tits from the natural big tits in there, but not too hard to tell on most of 'em.

Have fun and post some reports on what you find. I'm leaving town and need to live TJ vicariously for a while.

[Ed Norton]

Nice job, Chica Chaser. Your reporting style is detailed, clear, and enthusiastic.

I find that success in a Spanish-speaking country correlates highly with one's ability in the native language. As a clue to guys who hope to emulate your success, could you rate your own ability (beginner, high-beginner, intermediate, high-intermediate, advanced...or some such)?

Also, I find that a short line at the return border-crossing has a lot to do with one's feeling that a TJ trip was successful. You touched on this, and others have as well. Looking at an entire week, what days/times of day do you recommend for short lines, and which do you suggest be avoided?

[Matt06]

She is 5'3" without the 4" stripper shoes, easily 36DD, 26/36, 27yo, long brown hair with those bleachy streaks. Not the best looking one in there but not bad at all. Just go in and look for the biggest natural pair of tits you can find, thats her. You will have weed out the silicone big tits from the natural big tits in there, but not too hard to tell on most of 'em.

Have fun and post some reports on what you find. I'm leaving town and need to live TJ vicariously for a while.

I live in Florida and came across this trip report. It brought back very good memories. I had similar experiences twice in TJ. My work sent me to San Diego and I became addicted! After visiting TJ, the first day I was back every night. My hotel was paid, but I had to drive about an hour to get to the border. Adelita, SW, Hong Kong club and Chicago club were all good. Just be careful. I have had no problems, but don't have anything illegal on you and don't get drunk where you are not alert.
I wish I lived in LA. I would do the 2 hours drive at least once a month.

[SW Surfer]

Hey CC - I have to tell you I am spent just reading your report. I plan on being in New Port for business in July and have planned a trip to Tijuana. Now I am thinking about taking a few extra days for some Chica Surfing.

Thanks again for the top notch reports,

Surfy




What a weekend for this old guy! For someone like me who is attracted to Latinas, this has been the finest few days I have ever had. They are literally wall-to-wall everywhere you look. All sizes, shapes, colors and backgrounds you can imagine and the best part; you can bang anyone of them you want! Just incredible! I think I could become addicted to TJ, or already am! Never had any problems with LE or felt in danger at any time. Just take cabs when crossing through town, or even better find a beautiful chica to drive you!

TJ Summary –
9 pops / 40 hrs
~$100 / Alcohol
~$170 / Chicas
~$300 / Room fees, cab rides, food, hotel, waiter tips, cum scrubber tips, doorman tips, cabbie tips, restroom attendant tips, bartender tips, panhandler donations

[Chica Chaser]

Nice job, Chica Chaser. Your reporting style is detailed, clear, and enthusiastic.

I find that success in a Spanish-speaking country correlates highly with one's ability in the native language. As a clue to guys who hope to emulate your success, could you rate your own ability (beginner, high-beginner, intermediate, high-intermediate, advanced...or some such)?

Also, I find that a short line at the return border-crossing has a lot to do with one's feeling that a TJ trip was successful. You touched on this, and others have as well. Looking at an entire week, what days/times of day do you recommend for short lines, and which do you suggest be avoided?

I would guess I am a high beginner, but learning. I recommend getting Rosetta Stone Spanish for your compuer. I have started using it and it really does work. I think you will increase your chances of a good hookup if you can speak the language at least a little. I think the people there appreciate and respect you more if you can try to communicate in their native language. Once thay see you trying there will be a line of willing volunteers to help you out and I believe your mileage will be higher if you can speak some Spanish. Spanish skills will be particularly helpful if you want to deal with any of the Street Girls as I found that english among them is almost non-existant. Not all of them but most. The biggest thing I can recommend is to NOT go in there with any type of attitude. None of the loud, obnoxious or belligerant American "I'm just here to drink and fuck" attitude, yelling and carrying on. I saw this a couple times Friday night with a group of young Americans. I was embarrased for them and they were getting some attention from the security guys and policia. Show respect to everyone you see and you will have no problems.

As far as the border return, I crossed at several different times with vitually no wait. I recommend that you don't drive across as those line were long, very long in many cases. The walk across was short every time. I would guess that the worst times to walk over would be early to mid mornings when many natives are crossing to shop or work or whatever. Again, I never waited more that 5 minutes after the approach and getting in the que lines, of course I always had my passport so no issues once at the podium. They will only ask "What are you bringing back" I didnt try the smart ass answers, just "nothing" and they let me right through. When I carried my overnight bag you have to run that through the x-ray machine like at the airport.

Also, I never carried my beer outside on the street and DON'T be drunk or obnoxious anywhere but especially on the street. There are some shady looking people around who I'm sure would have no problem taking advantage of you. And you don't want to attact any attention to your yourself from the policia, there are plenty of them around the main areas of the zona. I talked to several of them at different times, they were always courteous and professional to me. Talked to one of my taxi drivers and he was lamenting about the bad press the "narcos and policia" situation has brought on TJ and other border towns with a decrease in tourism. I never had any problems or felt threatened in any way during any of my time over there. Just be on your game and keep an awareness of where you are and what is going on around you at all times, you shouldn't have any problems.

One other thing, beware of the panhandlers on the street. They are everywhere. Just a polite "gracias, no" to whatever they are selling or pushing was enough to keep them away from me. Looks like my next trip to Mexico is going to be Juarez next month, they have has a lot of problems there too. I will report over there on the El Paso board what I find.

[Ed Norton]

I visited TJ for a quick pop yesterday and set a new record for those of us who are on a budget. $26 for fulfilling and pleasant FS with a cute 19-year-old! Reason is that I went in the morning and I didn't go to a club (and thus pay a middleman), and also I walked to the sw stroll from the border. The total time investment, including round trip trolley from downtown San Diego, was three hours. At this rate I may never have to go back to Thailand!

I checked Adelitas and they were just opening at 10 AM. There were no girls in sight inside, though the manager said there were some available. On the stroll, however, I must have seen 25-30 girls. Many were fat. I found a slender 7-8 in looks named Karina standing midway down the block beneath the Capirucha Bar in the middle of Coahuila street, on the right as you enter it from Constitution. Small tits, short, quick and easy smile, dark blonde streaked hair. I chose her over another cutie on Constitution because of that smile. It did indeed translate to a nice friendly personality. Having some Spanish (as Chica Chaser said) definitely helped the bargaining as well as the experience with her. I specifically mentioned I wanted her to disrobe completely. She said normally that would be $10 more, but since business was not good at this time of day, it was no problem. I asked how much time we could expect, and she said 15 minutes, which was fine with me.

Karina is from Veracruz, not married. No tamale belly yet. Typical brown nipples, shaved cootch. The unusual thing is she didn't even ask for payment before the main event, or even after. I tipped her (a miserly) $1 for her nice attitude on top of her $20 charge (plus $5 for the room, which faced onto the street, had toilet facilities and was clean). Also, I asked whether photos would be a problem next time (I forgot my camera). She said that WOULD be a problem. I expect that varies with different girls.

The act itself was real good. She and I mutually stroked, she put on the condom (Durex, provided by hotel, made in India! I used mine.) We had a leisurely "make out session", no kissing just stroking and talking. There was no rush but my body was in a rush, so we gradually moved closer and ended up with a missionary flourish. As things ended, I suggested we wind down slowly, and she happily stayed with me. Really nice attitude throughout. She tended to my cleanup afterwards, dressed, and left before I was all together. Strangely, I didn't see her anywhere on the street afterward. Anyway if any of you like small cute young ones, I highly recommend Karina; the blondish hair will make her stand out. She said she normally works from 9am to 6pm.

Incidentally, I had asked the other girl I liked what her price was, and she said the same $20 + $5 for the hotel.

I guess the moral of the story is that if you're low on funds, mid-morning would seem to be bargain time. And brush up on your Spanish.

I felt very comfortable walking through TJ especially with a knowledge of the language and during the late morning hour. A map of TJ would help you. Basically after you cross the bridge over the canal, you follow Av. Puente Mexico to the huge steel arch, go straight one more block (name changes to Articulo) and make a right on Av. Constitution. A short 3-block walk to Calle Coahuila and you are in the midst of the stroll, which is about 2-3 blocks square.

You can find that canal bridge by simply looking for the big arch after you come through the border gate and then walking towards the arch. If you don't see it, I'm sure you'll see McDonalds at Plaza Comercial. Just face McDonalds from the corner where it is located and you'll see the big steel arch to your left.

As Chica Chaser mentioned, there was no wait at the border for walkers on the return trip, so I could walk right to the trolley, which was about a ten-minute wait to get started and then a 45-minute ride. Uncrowded and comfortable. The line for cars, on the contrary, was very long; I couldn't see the end of it, but at least it was moving slowly. (I would also warn that on a previous Saturday afternoon visit the wait for those walking was horrendously long.)

[Wireless91910]

Ed Norton

Nice report, but it's kinda of a well known secret that the best time to get cheap FS in TJ is during the week. Having lived in SD from 81-2001, I hardly ever ventured into TJ on weekend because of the "Swing Dick Fest".

Too many guys=higher prices
Very little guys=leverage

I once got FS for $10 + 1 tip from Adelita's girl during the week.

How long did it take you to get back across the boarder?

Wireless91910

[Ed Norton]

Ed Norton

Nice report, but it's kinda of a well known secret that the best time to get cheap FS in TJ is during the week. Having lived in SD from 81-2001, I hardly ever ventured into TJ on weekend because of the "Swing Dick Fest".

Too many guys=higher prices
Very little guys=leverage

I once got FS for $10 + 1 tip from Adelita's girl during the week.

How long did it take you to get back across the boarder?

Wireless91910$10...wow!

There was about a 10-minute wait in line at the border. I counted 11 people in front of me. This was on a Tuesday at 11:00 am. The guard asked if I had anything to declare, then made a friendly comment about an immigration officer there with my same last name, then waved me through.

The length of the immigration wait is a big deal to me and should be to anyone considering a trip. Any time spent in line is very aggravating and kills the joy of going in the first place. The round trip trolley from downtown SD was about 1 1/2 hours, and the round trip walk to the stroll about 45 minutes. If you add the aggravation of hours in line waiting to return across the border it's a deal killer.

So as much as most of us prefer to party on Friday/Saturday, your habit of staying away on weekends is a very good model to follow.

[Tsuji]

Went down South couple of weekends ago. Made a stop at Adelitas, thanks to excellent info from this forum. Decided to stop by Hong Kong afterward just to scout around. Went to the back stage and notice two magically delicious blondes waiting to go on stage. They had a huge gathering of guys around them. They went on stage and the show was amazing. Very raunchy and XXXXXXXX rate. Candles, hot wax, whip creams, 69. WOW! The best strip show I've ever seen. Unfortunately, I did not remember what time I was there. I'm planning on heading back down there, and wonder if anyone has seen the two blondes I'm talking about. And possibly what time are the shows in HK. Thanks for your help.

[Member #2041]

Ed Norton

Nice report, but it's kinda of a well known secret that the best time to get cheap FS in TJ is during the week. Having lived in SD from 81-2001, I hardly ever ventured into TJ on weekend because of the "Swing Dick Fest".

Too many guys=higher prices
Very little guys=leverage

I once got FS for $10 + 1 tip from Adelita's girl during the week.

How long did it take you to get back across the boarder?

Wireless91910

You can't even get into the room at Adelita for $11 nowadays. The room alone is $12 for a half hour.

[Eboniman]

Okay this report is somewhat delayed but I wanted to add it anyway. I previously posted that I would be staying with a friend in san diego. Know there was no way in hell I'd be that close and not go to TJ. I've been back a little over a week.

Side note: for those of you that haven't been to san diego, you should go. Its really a beautiful city.

Now to the report.

I read here someone mention border station parking lot. With the help of my gps nav I was there in no time. (4570 camino de la plaz). There was plenty of space and light. An attendant (security) is there 24hrs, also an atm is by the front gate. Walk out the lot, turn left then right at the light. Follow the street around to the border crossing. (6-9 minutes depending on pace). Half way to the crossing there is another parking lot. All things appear equal to the previous one but I didn't use it.

Cross the border and I started to walk to revolution. Soon as you're in TJ lots of cabs are right there. Right turn before you get to them and there are shops and a money exchange place. It was dark and so long since I'd been there I didn't trust my memory so I decided to take a cab. Exchanged $20 and caught a cab. The tijuana arch is very visible (even from CA) so I had a cab take me there ($5). Pretty close to revolution so when we got to the area where the clubs are I just said, stop here. Walked around 10 minutes or so just to look. Dude chicas were ALL over the place. (this was a Saturday night). It was funny having the guys stop you on the street, "hey man you want poooo ci? Come to this club. We got very young 18-20 year girls" LOL. Add accent and it becomes kinda funny

First club I went to was Hong Kong. Walk in the door and my knees got weak. LOL. If it wasnt 60 girls there it wasnt 1. To me they ranged from she's cute id fuck her" to "OMG! ". I grabbed a beer and just watched for awhile. Just wanted to check the scene so I could blend in with the flow of the place. You know every place has its own vibe, do's and donts. The beer was $3. 50 and I never had a problem paying is US cash. Look to each his own but I saw lots of girls that'd give J-LO a run for her money. I stayed for awhile. One I really liked stayed on stage for like 6-7 songs. When she came down, she went to clean up and was quickly scooped up. She was in high demand. But it seemed like she sat with a guy for awhile and moved on. Why arent they fucking her? Finally I just leave to check out another club. So many so little time.

Stop in adelitas. (its like 3 doors down). It has a big dance floor in the middle. Seems like it rotated from "stage" to actual "dancefloor". Adelitas had about 30 girls. Far as quality, again some real stunners. Seems like they had every type. Young very thin, large fake breasts, short dark hair, long blond hair. Its like they ran the gammet.

Adelitas I was quoted either 40 or 60 everytime plus 12 for the room. Anyway I grabbed one and went to the room. The room is "DIRECTLY" next door. Left the club and in 3 seconds you're climbing the stairs up the rooms. I asked before we went and she said she was cool with pictures. After we finished and I broke out the camera, she freaked and didn't want any. Even with tip. I don't remember names. Who cares anyway? LOL

On the street again. I don't remember the street name. But say you're at adelitas. Turn left and walk past Hong Kong to the corner. That whole cross street is lined with girls. This night more were to the right. I get stopped by an 18 (little suspect) and a 19 year old. 20 a piece. Cross the street 5 for the room and we're down to business. You could tell they were young. Laughing and giggling. Sorta how a chic would do to play off being nervous. Kinda hard to concentrate but I went ahead bust one and we left. They were cool with pictures.

Side note: if you went left inside of right. Make a left at the next corner. That street is also lined with girls. This street also has a back entrance to Hong Kong.

[Eboniman]

Just done with an unfulfilling 3some and walking around. Took another street girl ($20) to the room ($4). Better service. I'm actually feeling pretty good now. By now I'm saying, "fuck it blow the $300 I got fom the atm earlier. Not like you're in TJ all the time. Have fun".

Grab a couple $1 tacos from the stand on the corner to fill my belly. Back to Hong Kong to find my true love. LOL. Not really but I wanted the super fine one I saw earlier. Again she's sitting with a guy. I get a couple of dances to pass the time. The private dance rooms ($22) are over sized phone booths on the second floor. They lasted 2 or 3 songs I guess. Don't remember exactly.

Back to adelitas. Talk to few then leave to grab a street girl.

Side note: seems to me some of the street girls were just as fine as the club girls. Flirt and rub on the club girls then fuck a street girl for half the price.

Finished fucking the street girl. Stopped by the police. (beer in a cup) they talked but I didn't know all what they were saying but I knew it was a shake down. They called their translating buddy from across the street. Basicly he was like police don't make alot. You may have to go downtown but you can pay a fine here if you don't want to go.

Okay how much? 50. LOL. Thats too much I'll give you 20.

They were cool with that and I was on my way. I wasnt mad just figured its part of being in TJ. Been there 30 times I was about due. LOL. One thing I did notice, the REAL police (that drive the cars) were very professional. Its the auxiliary fucks (in white shirts no guns) that stand on the corners are the ones that'll get ya.

Anyway, I checked several clubs. Most let you in free. 2-4-1 on beers at $3. 50. They want you to buy drinks for the girls at $7. 50. $10 each. None of the ones I went to matched adelitas or Hong Kong. They quickly became my favorites.

Little hazy about the time frame and what I don't but at some point I ended up back on the street. I ran into the long blond haired girl from my earlier 3sum. When I asked she said her friend was in the room. I said I'll give you 15 and I wanna fuck until they come knock on the door. Much better service this time. Multiple positions, moaning and I think she came. Its almost like earlier she didn't want she friend to know she enjoyed it.

Drained and drunk (not loud and beligerent) I head back to the border. Just before you get to the border there is a 24 hour pharmacy. Heard you could get viagra readily and cheaper than in the US. I go in to look and sure enough on the shelf next to the beer is a blue liquid labeled viagra 50mg. Think I remember the guy saying they were couple dollars a bottle. Maybe next time I'll try it.

I get to the border agent and he asks the "nature of your visit to mexico". Ummm. Party. Where were you born? United states. Welcome home have a good day.

[Eboniman]

Its Tuesday and I'm doing some shopping at the san diego outlets in san ysidro. I've always had a thing for hispanic women. I saw some real lookers. I thought to myself, sure would be nice to give her a few bucks and then fuck her brains out. Knew then it was time for another dip into TJ.

Drive to the parking lot, use the atm and was about to head out. Turn around and a bus is pulling up behind me. It atcually stops IN the parking lot. It was red and had mexicoach written on it. Asked the driver how much. $5. Thought to myself heck thats a good deal. Save me some walking. Said the last bus was at 9pm. Some reason I can't remember if that was going to or coming from TJ.

Like 5 doors down from the bus station is a club. Think it was platinum. Don't hold me to it tho. Paid a couple bucks to get in and went upstairs to the action. Low and behold there was no action. Like 6 girls. 3 in the booth behind me talking to guys in the next booth. Almost seemed like they werent working till one flashed me her pussy and licked her lips. An older one sat in my lap and the 5th girl was sitting with another guy. Not adding the bartender that was everybody in the club. The older one wasnt my type but she had a really wet pussy that kept my attention. Seemed disappointed when I didn't buy her a drink.

I pushed her off my lap when a really young pretty one came from the back. Pretty and had good conersation. Said she was 21. Did end up buying her a couple drinks. Asked if I could take her to the room. Sure 200.come again? $200. Pushed her off my lap and left. Out 30 bucks and 45 minutes.

Cab driver out front kept trying to take me to "the best club in TJ". It put me in the mind of the guys on the street that kept hitting me up a couple nights ago. I insisted on adelitas and that was that.

Didn't let me down. Lots of girls were there and at Hong Kong. I'm thinking to myself, this is Tuesday? Thought this was slow night. Anyway I grab one and go to the room. Can't remember but it was either 40 or 60 plus the usual 12 for the room. Good fuck. She didn't like pictures.

Head to Hong Kong. Saw my true love on stage. This girl was pretty in the face and wore glasses. The body? This was a perfect body to me. And the way she moved. Oh lawd! Couldn't take it anymore so I tip and tell her to find me when she gets off stage. Later on we make eye contact as if she really was looking for me. I had someone with me tho. I catch her later and ask her to the room. She says 85. With pictures? No pictures. No thanks and I move on. I mingle with the girls but my mind and eye keeps going to my one true love LOL (not really). I stop her as she walks by. Cien with pictures. 100 is fine but no pictures.

First of all I want pictures. For my own rapidly growing personal file and to share with all you horny pervs.

The girl does it for me. Beautiful. The glasses add a girl next door thing. Gorgeous body. Smells good. She moves with an aire of she knows she can fuck the hell out of you. I know you all want me so imma charge more.

The big head is saying, this is TJ. Who the hell pays 85 or 100 in TJ? Plus no pictures to share.

From RTFF I learned that 10's in looks don't equal 10's in service quality. It was hard to do but I passed.

Back to adelitas to get the finest girl I can get for 40 with pictures. Man these chics really don't like pictures. Finally I see one standing off to the side. Pretty quiet and meek looking. Kinda cute. Slim body, tiny breasts. She looks at me, smiles and turns her head real fast. Fucking flirt. LOL. She looks again and when I motion she comes to me. She's so short and quiet its like she'll walk right by you and you won't even see her. Not the finest body around so me and probably lots of other guys don't even notice her. Now I can actually remember barely looking at her and saying "after the game" when she stopped to talk earlier. They were replaying the lakers getting their ARSE handed to them by the celtics. I hadnt seen the game yet.

After 2 minutes of chit chat. It goes like this. (try to keep up) lets go to the room. 60? With pictures? No. 40. 60. 40. 50. Okay 50 with pictures. How many? 3 or 4.

We agreed on 50 and went to the room (after the game). To my suprise this little girl was quite the trooper. Easily the best sex I had with any of them there. She sucked a good dick. Multiple positions. She moaned. Not GFE but pretty dayum close. To me this is was the best time to end the night and head home.

This has happened to me a couple times before. I think my new motto is to grab the shy/quiet looking one sitting in the corner by herself.

One thing I will add is that my self control was unually low. Seemed liek I wanted to fuck every single girl I saw. My advice is if you don't want to spend it, don't bring it.

[Eboniman]

I have a couple videos I'd like to post if anyone wants to tell me how to do it.

[Member #4143]

Hi everyone,

I am think of going to Tj on July 4th. But I only have the day like between 7pm to however late they are open and I have to get on a plane July 5 th at 10 am. I was wondering if it is worth it for such a short trip. I will be flying in to San diego on July 4th early then have meetings and who knows. How far is it from Airport to Boarder crossing how long will take me to drive? Thanks for all the help.

[Member #4143]

Hi everyone,

I am think of going to Tj on July 4th. But I only have the day like between 7pm to however late they are open and I have to get on a plane July 5 th at 10 am. I was wondering if it is worth it for such a short trip. I will be flying in to San diego on July 4th early then have meetings and who knows. How far is it from Airport to Boarder crossing how long will take me to drive?

Thanks for all the help

[Chica Chaser]

Hi everyone,

I am think of going to Tj on July 4th. But I only have the day like between 7pm to however late they are open and I have to get on a plane July 5 th at 10 am. I was wondering if it is worth it for such a short trip. I will be flying in to San diego on July 4th early then have meetings and who knows. How far is it from Airport to Boarder crossing how long will take me to drive?

Thanks for all the help

I would definetly go, one night there is certainly worth it. It is maybe 20 minutes from the airport area to the border. Just get on I-5 south and hit the last exit before Mexico.

Read my (and other) earlier reports on what to do. Park behind Jack in the Box, cross border, catch a cab to "Adelitas, por favor". $5. Once you are in the area walk around, the sights, sounds and action will blow you away. Have fun but keep your eyes open and don't wander more than a block or two away from Adiletas area.

I will be back in SD next month and TJ is going to be my first stop.

Take a few minutes to read the reports here, there is a wealth of very important info that you need to know before going. Also, bring your passport for easy entry when you return to the US. Or birth certificate and drivers license if no passport.

Give us a full report when you get back, I have to live vicariously until my return.

PS. I am still talking to Gabriella (the one I hooked up with last trip) every couple days, my monger phone bill is going crazy! She is promising me an even wilder time when I get there!

[Az Dude]

I have a couple videos I'd like to post if anyone wants to tell me how to do it.

you can just put them on filedropper.com and share the
URL

[Greywolf]

Do any of you guys know if they allow couples in Adelita's. My wife is bisexual and we'd like to make a trip to TJ in a few weeks. Any advice would be appreciated.

[Samurai0907]

Do any of you guys know if they allow couples in Adelita's. My wife is bisexual and we'd like to make a trip to TJ in a few weeks. Any advice would be appreciated.All they care about is the dinero! I've heard of others taking their SO and having them join the show too. Moreso in Hong Kong, but I'm sure it'll be ok in Adelitas too.

Let us know cuz we'll enjoy the show too!

[SgtPerv]

Do any of you guys know if they allow couples in Adelita's. My wife is bisexual and we'd like to make a trip to TJ in a few weeks. Any advice would be appreciated.Couples do go and enjoy themselves. Some girls like couples some do not. Be polite and just ask the girls. If the girls come up to you both they have an idea of what you want. You will not be the first or the last couple that wants to play. Some of the other girls that might be interested may be shy to approach out of respect/fear of your partner. You have to let them know you two are approachable.

[Greywolf]

Thanks for the help,guys.

I'll post a trip report after we get back home.

[Ewclark77]

Do any of you guys know if they allow couples in Adelita's. My wife is bisexual and we'd like to make a trip to TJ in a few weeks. Any advice would be appreciated.

If you haven't already, you might want to ask this question at the Tijuana Board, also. It is at

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146

[SgtPerv]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=5CpiX76JX58

[SgtPerv]

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[chasing]

Have any of you guys been to newbodys or cheaters, or an other massage palors in Tijuana. I understand there are about 80. 00 for ahour with a good time.

Any suggestions, or idea what they charge now.

Will be there in a couple of days.

Thanks

[Samurai0907]

Why go to a massage parlor in TJ when you can get all the hotties you want at Adelitas or Hong Kong, etc?

[SgtPerv]

Have any of you guys been to newbodys or cheaters, or an other massage palors in Tijuana. I understand there are about 80. 00 for ahour with a good time.

Any suggestions, or idea what they charge now.

Will be there in a couple of days.

ThanksAztec is a good legit massage joint for about $25 an hour. The zona is the place for chicas. Go to this link at ISG and download the map. Read their forum on TJ. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2221&page=1

[Java5828]

Wondering if its safe to go to Tijuana's by myself. Heard a lot of scare stories but don't want to miss out on any fun.

[SgtPerv]

Wondering if its safe to go to Tijuana's by myself. Heard a lot of scare stories but don't want to miss out on any fun.It is absolutey safe. Read the forum and get the map.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146

[Sandiegoman]

Going down to TJ tonight for a bit of fun with the SW scene. If anyone is interested in meeting up down there for a beer send me a PM, I'll probably head down around 8 ish.


Sandiegoman

[Lascivious]

Sorry to rehash such a belabored topic but...

I haven't gone for a over year due to the passport thing. People keep telling me that they have been crossing with only a DL. Can this still be true?

[Hargow20]

Actually a passport or birth certificate is now required...! Since things changed they have only asked me for a drivers license. A passport or passport card will be required starting in June.

This seems a little ridiculous. I don't see why you drivers license cannot be tied to your SSN voluntarily.

[Hotwire]

I carry a copy of my BC in my wallet because I go frequently. I have however seen them let people through with just a DL. I shit you not I even saw a guy get though with his mother fucking TRIPLE FUCKING A card! He was obviously american so...

It's at the discretion of the officer at customs.

I just got the $20 copy of my BC so I wouldnt have to hassle it.

Hope this helps.

CC
Some states that don't thrive on red tape.Like Ca.Use your Soc Sec # for your drivers license #. Idaho for one.

[Baltimonger]

Quit hold off the inevitable and get a passport.

The current turnaround time from applying to getting the passport in your mail box is only about 15 working days. I applied on December 16, and got mine January 2.

[LV Fan]

Quit hold off the inevitable and get a passport.

The current turnaround time from applying to getting the passport in your mail box is only about 15 working days. I applied on December 16, and got mine January 2.I had the same experience (10 days, with expedited fee). I also accidentally checked the box for a passport card, but I am glad I did. It is much more convenient, as it is like a DL, and you can use it to cross by car, foot or boat to and from Canada or Mexico.

[Clicker619]

Quit hold off the inevitable and get a passport.

The current turnaround time from applying to getting the passport in your mail box is only about 15 working days. I applied on December 16, and got mine January 2.

But a passport is $97 that could be used towards chicas y cerveza!!! I'm trying to lose weight so I can look good in my passport photo.... 315 lbs to go...

[Hargow20]

A US Passport card costs only $45.
(http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html )

[Redmun]

Greetings fellow mongers. Recently I moved packed up my stuff from DC area to CA. This trip gave me a chance to try to visit strip joints and or use craigslist girls everywhere I stopped which includes OH, MS, NM, and finally CA. Three words BORING! BORING! BORING! The reason I'm writing this report is to share with you my escapade in TIAJUANA. First I drove 4 hours from Ridgecrest, CA to SD on Friday evening. I checked-in at Motel6 in San Ysidro since I was planning to sleep in the US side. I parked at the parking lot near the outlet mall and walked over to the Dark side. Once in MX 9pm, I took a cab to Adelitas which was not happening. Thats okay since it gave a chance to walk around and see the alley chicks. I finally decided on a Mermaids for massage for $40 in which they paraded about 10 chics. Picking wisely (I think) I selected Patty. I paid here a $120 for fuckie, suckie, DATY, rimming- . The session lasted for about an hour which included about an hour + a shower. Next, I walked around the zona roja area and walked into quite a few bars which included Hong Kong. I feel that was the best bar because it was modern and packed w/ lot lot of hotties. I sat w/ a chica named Cindy (glasses, slightly thick and awesome knockers). I bought her quite a few fechas (which I didn't mind) who let me feel her as much I wanted but I didn't feel to go with her to upstairs. I walked around HK chatting w/ various chicas. See pics. Around 1 am I was getting tired I walked around to the alley. I was able to part-take an alley chick for $20 plus $5 for the room (can't beat that w/ a stick). I ate 4 tacos in one of many taco stand (very delicious). I return to the land of the free around 2 am. BTW there were a lot of police and federal troops on the street taking names busting many folks including whitties. I went to bed around 2:30 am and woke up around 6:00am. Since I was awake I decided to go back to Tijuana. By that time Adelitas and HK was dwindling down so I went to Mermaids again. I returned back to US to check-out from mtl6 (no ringing endorsement) by noon. All in all I think about 2K 3K for my trip from DC to CA to include Tijuana.

You are welcome

[Mallard]

Having read about the action in TJ, I drove down when I was in So. Cal and have to say it was better than I expected. There were plenty of Chica's to choose from at 8:00am and by 1pm I had enjoyed the company of 4 girls, one from Adelita's and 3 from the alley. All this for a cost of about 118US.

I have no complaints. The cops didn't give me any crap, the girls were hot, and the price can't be beat.

I suggest you take the taxi to Adelita's and circle the block a few times to check out the street girls. Pick out your favorite flavor and enjoy. If you don't make an ass of yourself, or get too drunk, you will have a pretty good chance of getting home without being robbed, shot, or beaten.

Cheers,

Mallard

[Pot1134]

I will be heading down to TJ again in a week. I hope to find a girl like I found a few months ago.
This chick was about 30 years old and sexy as hell. She was wearing panties and a man's shirt. The shirt was open about half way down. As normal, she came up to my booth and turned her back on me looking at the stages. She was dripping with sex appeal. She got me hot as hell just standing there. She turned around and spoke to me asking to sit down. Of course I agreed.

She was not into the fishas as much as the others because she was going up stairs about every 40 minutes.
The open shirt allowed me to see her natural b cups that we amazing.
I let me hands roam with no refusal. I was ready in about 4 minutes.

We went up for $60 plus room. She didn't have much to get out of, but did wash up a little. The dark haired 10 was a tiger. She started an unbelievable CBJ that didn't take me long to pop, especially since she was in the 69 position. I must say that I don't daty with Adelita girls, I couldn't resist. She got up and reloaded my cover and allowed me to do a little mish.
She said she only worked about 4 months a year and then went back home. I hope she is not on vacation when I go down soon.
I don't know her name, but I can certainly remember that face. I see it pretty often in my dreams.

[Dark Knight619]

I want to go badly, but I don't want to get killed and stuff.

[Member #2041]

I want to go badly, but I don't want to get killed and stuff.That's cool, it improves the negotiating position for those of us that aren't afraid. Sometimes you need to not be a pussy to get pussy. I was down there a few weeks ago, and there are so many armed military and police, who are NOT there to hassle you, but rather, to protect people, that it's never been safer.

[Jason619]

That's cool, it improves the negotiating position for those of us that aren't afraid. Sometimes you need to not be a pussy to get pussy. I was down there a few weeks ago, and there are so many armed military and police, who are NOT there to hassle you, but rather, to protect people, that it's never been safer.So true. I usually venture there alone and feel perfectly safe. I took Spanish in school, but don't remember much more than cognates now. Even with broken Spanish, being young and not a meat head, I never feel unsafe or scared by anything down there. The police presence is viewable in all popular tourist areas and they generally don't hassle people that mind their own business.

[Bigg Hubb]

Greetings fellow mongers. Recently I moved packed up my stuff from DC area to CA. This trip gave me a chance to try to visit strip joints and or use craigslist girls everywhere I stopped which includes OH, MS, NM, and finally CA. Three words BORING! BORING! BORING! The reason I'm writing this report is to share with you my escapade in TIAJUANA. First I drove 4 hours from Ridgecrest, CA to SD on Friday evening. I checked-in at Motel6 in San Ysidro since I was planning to sleep in the US side. I parked at the parking lot near the outlet mall and walked over to the Dark side. Once in MX 9pm, I took a cab to Adelitas which was not happening. Thats okay since it gave a chance to walk around and see the alley chicks. I finally decided on a Mermaids for massage for $40 in which they paraded about 10 chics. Picking wisely (I think) I selected Patty. I paid here a $120 for fuckie, suckie, DATY, rimming-. The session lasted for about an hour which included about an hour + a shower. Next, I walked around the zona roja area and walked into quite a few bars which included Hong Kong. I feel that was the best bar because it was modern and packed w/ lot lot of hotties. I sat w/ a chica named Cindy (glasses, slightly thick and awesome knockers). I bought her quite a few fechas (which I didn't mind) who let me feel her as much I wanted but I didn't feel to go with her to upstairs. I walked around HK chatting w/ various chicas. See pics. Around 1 am I was getting tired I walked around to the alley. I was able to part-take an alley chick for $20 plus $5 for the room (can't beat that w/ a stick). I ate 4 tacos in one of many taco stand (very delicious). I return to the land of the free around 2 am. BTW there were a lot of police and federal troops on the street taking names busting many folks including whitties. I went to bed around 2:30 am and woke up around 6:00am. Since I was awake I decided to go back to Tijuana. By that time Adelitas and HK was dwindling down so I went to Mermaids again. I returned back to US to check-out from mtl6 (no ringing endorsement) by noon. All in all I think about 2K 3K for my trip from DC to CA to include Tijuana.

You are welcomeI can't believe all these post and it takes a guy from dc to come all the way out here for me to get some pics of Tijuana girls.

[Hargow20]

There was a report a about a month ago that someone got mugged in Zona Norte in broad daylight. This is fairly disturbing considering that the cops are in the Zona. So if you go down there always look to see who is behind you.

Personally I would much rather spend my money on a SW up here. 99% of the time the SG's service is disappointing. When you factor in gas you are not saving much money plus you have to deal with hassle of crossing the border.

[SgtPerv]

I have been to TJ many a time and have spent 3-4 days at a time.

If you do not drive across the border, do not get involved in drugs or get overly drunk, then there is no problems.

If you go there and act stupid then you deserve what you get.

From San Deigo to TJ it is defiantly worth the trip.

The chicas are a lot better quality than the SD sw.

Use the map and be safe.

[SgtPerv]

Can not see SD sw matching these real TJ chicas.

[Clicker619]

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[Clicker619]

Can not see SD sw matching these real TJ chicas.Did you get permission to take the outside pictures and did you have to pay to take the ones inside? I'm curious because a SW warned me to put my camera (phone) away because the police would become interested in me if I took photos.

[SgtPerv]

Did you get permission to take the outside pictures and did you have to pay to take the ones inside? I'm curious because a SW warned me to put my camera (phone) away because the police would become interested in me if I took photos.It is not recommended to take pics outside in the zona because of policia. Some chicas do not mind having there pics taken some ask for more money.
You do not want to get caught will pics on your camera in Mexico.

Best thing to do is take them and then email them to yourself and then erase them from your phone or hide the camera chip.

I actually have taken over a hundred pics myself before I knew it was illegal to have in Mexico.

What I posted were already on the internet and I have seen the chicas in person.

[Sexmoron]

It is not recommended to take pics outside in the zona because of policia. Some chicas do not mind having there pics taken some ask for more money.

You do not want to get caught will pics on your camera in Mexico.

Best thing to do is take them and then email them to yourself and then erase them from your phone or hide the camera chip.

I actually have taken over a hundred pics myself before I knew it was illegal to have in Mexico.

What I posted were already on the internet and I have seen the chicas in person.I'm from another board, and so am just sort of snooping here, but why is it illegal to have pics on your camera? Is that just for camera phones or cameras in general?

If I were down there and they saw that I had pictures of my family on my phone, would that also be illegal?

[SgtPerv]

Nude pics are considered porno. in Mexico. Taking pics in the zona norte is a cultural no no. Any tourist type non nude pics are OK if taken outside the zona norte.

Most chicas in the zona do not want their families to know they are there.

[SgtPerv]

To get an idea of what the chicas look like, here is a couple web sites.

www.hktijuana.com

This one you have to play with the mouse.

http://www.adelitabar.com.mx/

[Steelecan]

Anyone want to go to Tijuana on Monday and check out the street action or massage parlors. Not looking to go to Adelitas just the street girls. Also anyone speak spanish?

[Steelecan]

Looking to go to TJ this Monday (4-27) and go to the Massage Parlors down there. Want to go with someone down there for safety reasons and its more fun. If interested, reply to the post or pm me.

[SgtPerv]

Spanish is not really needed.

I have a place for you to look for your phrases of choice:http://www.mexican-hookers.com/chamuco/spanish.htm

[SgtPerv]

Check the map.

The two parlors on Ave Rev. are legit with no extras. The one in the zona across from Adelita called Mermaids with cost you around $100 or so for fs.

Street girls are from $20- $30 US depending on what you want.

Make sure you make your complete deal with the chica on the street before going to the room.

Room will cost between $7-$12.

I would suggest going to Aztec on Ave Rev for a legit massage ($20-$30) and then find a street girl in the zona.

The end results will be the same except for the price.$72 max compared to $100 or more.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995

[Jonesing]

Anyone know how this whole swine flu scare is gonna impact TJs?

[SgtPerv]

US might close the border down, hate to be stuck on the other side.

Mexico might close the zona down for awhile.

This is not a good time to go down to TJ.

I would not even considerate it for another 3-4 weeks. Seriously!

[Clicker619]

Yeah, it's safe to go to TJ. As long as you're not a cop, lawyer, or drug dealer, you'll be ok. Oh yeah, beware of stray bullets.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/01/1m1service00124-families-express-deep-sorrow/?uniontrib

[SgtPerv]

There is more chances of you getting hurt picking up a street walker than going to the zona in TJ.

The drug cartels are fighting with the police but not in the zona.

The cartels have no interest in the tourist monger.

[Jonesing]

Anyone make it across the border recently?

Are the us customs/border guys making it difficult to come back with the whole swine thing?

Thanks!

[SgtPerv]

My buddies just went down and they had no problems at all, in fact it is easier with less traffic.

After June you will need a passport or pass card.

It is safe to return to Tijuana.

[Jonesing]

After June you will need a passport or pass card.

It is safe to return to Tijuana.I thought you needed a passport now?

And who were those 3 americans killed recently? I saw it in the usa today. Was it drug related too?

Thanks!

[SgtPerv]

I thought you needed a passport now?

And who were those 3 americans killed recently? I saw it in the usa today. Was it drug related too?

Thanks!Right now it is birth certificate and drivers license until June I believe.

Yes it was drug related and had nothing to do with mongering the zona.

http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/Four-San-Diegans-Found-Murdered-in-Tijuana/8SUFa4eDgk-FybFhtKRbcw.cspx

[SgtPerv]

Few more pics of TJ chicas.

[Yunghung12]

Honest question As you can tell I'm a black dude. I've only been to TJ twice and it was only for the booze. I was also with 2 friends so i wasn't alone. My question is does being black make me stick out more to the locals, and if so does it put me at risk for any danger?

Cheers.

[Cloude]

Yung,

When I went a few months ago, I noticed a few of black guys the 4 days there. I actually talked to a black guy while waiting to use the atm next to Adelitas. He was waiting for his buddy to come down from the motel. He said he's in the armed forces and heads down there every couple of month's and never had any problem everytime in TJ. Just follow the rules about safety and respect the people and you should have a great time.

Good luck

Cloude

[SgtPerv]

Yung,

Just follow the rules about safety and respect the people and you should have a great time.

CloudeYou will have a great time. Act right and you will be treated right.

[Chica Chaser]

Some ladies MAY be a little more selective about going upstairs with you, but there will be plenty that will. With good behavior you won't have any problems in the Zona, I generally see a few black guys most anytime I been there.


You will have a great time. Act right and you will be treated right.

[SgtPerv]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146

A lot of black men post here. You will be just fine. In fact there are chicas who prefer black men over white men.

[Isral]

I have to agree the best place for mongers is in Tijuana. I took a trip down their once mostly messed around with the streets lets just say. With 1.5 I had 7 girls that night and they were all bombshells.

[Isral]

I even remember the first time I got a girl in tj. She was a 9 in looks and body. She asked me if I wanted to have fun I said sure she took me to the back and said It was gonna be 30 I looked at her as if I had seen a ghost. I gave her 30 and had so much fun. I confess I also took a mature woman looks must of been a 4 and body a 2. but it was bbbj and it only cost 15. I guess she was having a bad night. I love TJ though.

[SgtPerv]

[QUOTE=Isral) With 1.5 I had 7 girls that night and they were all bombshells.[/QUOTE]Considering rooms are $5-$7 per use and the street chicas are around $20-$25 dollars, 4 would be a more realistic goal today. You also have a $5 taxi ride to the zona.

$10 taxi rides
$28 rooms (4)
$100 chicas (4)
______________
$138 Total

$12 left for food and drink.

4 chicas for $150 spent south of the border is very doable for a newbie, TJ vets might be able to squeeze in 5 with negotiation skills and using pesos.

[Yunghung12]

Great. Thanks for the responses. And thanks Sgt for showing me that other site. Is it safe to go alone? Or should I just go with others?


Yung,

When I went a few months ago, I noticed a few of black guys the 4 days there. I actually talked to a black guy while waiting to use the atm next to Adelitas. He was waiting for his buddy to come down from the motel. He said he's in the armed forces and heads down there every couple of month's and never had any problem everytime in TJ. Just follow the rules about safety and respect the people and you should have a great time.

Good luck

Cloude

[SgtPerv]

Great. Thanks for the responses. And thanks Sgt for showing me that other site. Is it safe to go alone? Or should I just go with others?
First time you go , if at night have a friend but during the days a solo mission is fine. Taxi in and out of the zona. Do not let a taxi driver bullshit you into going anywhere else. They get kick backs at some clubs. Tell them you have a friend waiting for you.
I have gone by myself but I Know the area and still taxi. $5.

Get the map from the site I showed you and stay within its area. Only get pussy in the zona. The rest of the clubs onAve Revolution are tourist rip offs.

[SgtPerv]

Here is an option for the newbie to TJ. Does not get any better.

http://www.streetgirlfan.com/

[Steelecan]

Last week was my first time going to Hong kong bar, so I am completely a rookie even though I have been to TJ many times. Now that I got that out the way. I got my passport after a little less than a month! Couldnt wait to use it. Parked at the border by Jack in the box $5, then took a cab to Hong Kong.

Even though I had read my reviews on this board and others, I had no idea what to expect. As soon as I walked in, part of the staff tried to seat me and asked me what type of drink I wanted. Now I must say, that constant effort to get me to buy a lady drink was getting on my nerves.I just wanted to sit down and enjoy the place for a minute, but I couldnt.

An alright girl came right up to me and told me she would give me a good blow job etc while whispering in my ear and grabbing on my dick, but I wanted to take in my surroundings first. Then the waiter bought a girl to my table. I declined her lady drink about 3 times! She was nice enough to take upstairs so i just wanted to end all the harassment lol.

Her names was Daniella. About 5'7 130 with nice boobs. She spoke no english, but with my limited basic spanish we agreed on $60. Paid the $11 for the room and While in the hotel room upstairs I washed in the sink and she hopped in the shower. She came out with those nice natural boobs (dont mind fake ones though) put the condom on me for a CBJ. After a few mins I pulled her on top of me for CG then Mish. She did not want me to do doggie. She said I was too big. I think she thought I wanted to do anal.

We both cleaned up in the shower and that was that. It wasnt the experience I had hoped, with Hong Kong, but I got the first one out of the way and I know it will get better. Any suggestions on what I can do to have a better experience. From reading the board, I knew the drink thing would be a problem, but damn!

[Steelecan]

Yesterday on Monday was the first time that I have gone to Cheaters, so I will have a detailed report. Aww what they hell I love retelling the moment any way. Got to the border around 5:45 pm parked at the $5 dollar lot by the Jack in the box. Walked across the border and when to the first cab. I told him Cheaters and he acted like he didn't know where Cheaters was. I'm thinking here we go with the con. He got another guy and he didnt know and he mentioned a few places and I said no. They asked another guy and he knew where it was and had to give my guy directions. I couldn't believe he has never gotten that request.

We approached Cheaters and I saw it first and had to say "aqui aqui" lol. He didn't have a clue. You walk up a set of stairs, then a bell rings from a sensor that lets girls know to come out. Laura comes out (the tiny one) and tells me to sit on the couch that was right there There was also a tv right above the couch that porn going on. There was a lineup of about 5-6 girls. I had my mind on a few that I had checked out on the website, however when they are live and in the flesh they look different and I forgot which ones I liked. I selected Perla. She was on the website (www.cheatersmassage.com). She is really cute and has braces and has some nice C cups. Laura told me that it would be $40 dollars for a hour massage and I could have a shower and I could arrange other services with the girl in the room but because I read these forums, I knew to mention the $60 (after 4pm) promotion. I knew that included full service. She said ok and we went upstairs. So fellas, mention the promotion. It is $80 all inclusive (massage,CBJ,FS) and $60 after 4 pm.

We go upstairs to massage room and it is huge. A lot bigger than the hotel next to Hong Kong. It had to small beds in it, table, tv, closet, and a shower. It was nice. Perla left me to undress and to take a quick shower. She came in handed me a towel to dry off, then she started taking off her clothes. I was laying on the bed enjoying her view, when she started with the massage. We all know the massage is a joke, but it kinda gets you in the mood and at least you get a little more value for your buck before the FS. She rubbed some lotion on my body (5 minutes), then told me to flip. She had this lube out, and began stroking my dick while I sucked her tits. I'm thinking I hope she not just going to give me a HJ. She then pulls out a condom (Whew!) and gives me some pretty CBJ. She had the spit action going and was even deep throating it. I was impressed.

She lubed herself and hopped on top of me. She felt great and I loved looking at those nits tits. She sounded like she was into it. Making noises and moaning. She was moving her ass. I finished before I could hit it doggy. Took a shower and that was that. Walked out of the joint and was waiting on a cab. None were around and I began to get nervous. All the mugging stories were coming to mind lol. I didnt want to walk up the street I just wanted to stand right there and wait. Finally one came and I shouted to him and he stopped. Made it back w/o incident.

Overall I was pleased. I actually will continue to go to Cheaters over the HKs and the ADs because you dont have to go through the hassles. You just pick your girl and go upstairs and for the $60 price for the hour is great with very nice spa type rooms and no room fee. Also I believe they have a bar and I will check that out next time.

$100 TJ Challenge

$60 Girl
$10 Cab ride there and back
$5 Parking
$3 Tacos
$1 Frozen fruit bar

=$79 Succeeded

[R Consultant]

One day I need to take a trip there and stay for a bit and enjoy myself.

Any one been there lately?


Happy Hunting..




Here is an option for the newbie to TJ. Does not get any better.

http://www.streetgirlfan.com/

[Yunghung12]

One day I need to take a trip there and stay for a bit and enjoy myself.

Any one been there lately?

Happy Hunting..I'm kind of sketchy about the whole. "I'll take you on a tour for 50 bucks" thing to get chicks. But other than that its cool.

[Solidus]

Dang, I definitely want to take a trip there sometime next week, especially after browsing the Cheaters website.

[SgtPerv]

Dang, I definitely want to take a trip there sometime next week, especially after browsing the Cheaters website.Take a taxi directly there from the border ($5) and directly back. you will be fine.

[SgtPerv]

I'm kind of sketchy about the whole. "I'll take you on a tour for 50 bucks" thing to get chicks. But other than that its cool.If you never have been, the book would be well worth reading first along with http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showthread.php?t=2995

As far as a tour guide? Do not get into their car, taxi to the zona ($5).

A good tour guide would save you big money but you should always be careful with strangers. There are a lot of guides who charge $150 per person.

Is a tour guide necessary? No not at all if you just read what info I provided. Tour guide will only help insure you get the best prices.

The site I posted has a great map, just do not stray, even a block away.

This is a different map, not as good but different.

http://maps. Google.com/maps/ms? Hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=111848249797365344171.000464ce5d699a7de9bb8

[SgtPerv]

A lot to chioce from. Not all working the same shift.

As of April 3, 2008

North Side of the Alley
Adriana de Mexico City @ Mini
Adriana de Veracruz @ Mini
Adriana @ Mini
Alejandra de Veracruz @ Mini
Ana de Tijuana @ La Valentina
Ana de Mexico City @ Mini
Andrea @ Cascadas
Andrea de Puebla @ La Valentina
Angeles de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Angélica de Puebla @ El Portón
Angie de Puebla @ La Valentina
Araceli de Guadalajara @ Cascadas
Aracely de Michoacan @ La Valentina
Areli @ Cascadas
Brenda @ Cascadas
Carla @ La Valentina
Carla de Tampico @ Mini
Carmen
Carolina (Monica) @ Venecia
Cecilia
Cecilia de Acapulco @ La Valentina
Cecilia de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Claudia
Cynthia de Mexico City
Cynthia de Mexico City
Danni
Deanna de Mexico City @ La Valentina
Deanna de Veracruz @ Mini
Denise
Denise de Veracruz @ Venecia
Diane de Puebla @ Teresa
Elisabeth de Durango @ Mini
Elizabeth de Mexico City @ Cascadas
Elizabeth de Puebla @ Venecia
Erica de Veracruz @ Mini
Erika de Puebla @ Cascadas
Erika de Mexico City @ Mini
Esmeralda de D.F. @ El Portón
Esmeralda de D.F. @ Cascadas
Estrella
Flor @ La Valentina
Flor de Veracruz @ Mini
Gabriela de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Gabriela de Puebla @ La Valentina
Gaby de Sinaloa @ Mini
Gaby @ La Valentina
Grecia @ El Portón
Hania de Veracruz
Hilda de Veracruz @ La Valentina
Hildary @ Cascadas
Isabel @ Cascadas
Isabella
Jasmin de Veracruz @ La Valentina
Jasmin @ Teresa
Jacqueline @ La Valentina
Jacqueline @ Najera
Jacqueline de Mazatlan @ Mini
Jacqueline de Mexico City @ Mini
Jacqueline de Puebla @ Venecia
Jacqueline
Jacqueline de Guadalajara @ Mini
Janet de Mexico City @ Mini
Jesse de Oaxaca @ Mini
Jessica de Guadalajara @ Mini
Jessica @ La Valentina
Jolette de Veracruz @ La Valentina
Jovana @ Mini
Judy
Julissa @ Cascadas
Karin de Morelia @ Cascadas
Karina @ Venecia
Karina de D.F. @ Mini
Karina de Veracruz @ Mini
Katrina @ La Valentina
Laura de Mexico City
Lenny de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Leticia @ Cascadas
Letty de Puebla
Liszet @ Cascadas
Lorena de Veracruz @ Mini
Luiza de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Lupita de Acapulco @ Cascadas
Maite @ Teresa
Marillea @ Cascadas
Margarita de Veracruz @ El Portón
Mari de Puebla @ Cascadas
MarÃ*a de Veracruz @ La Valentina
Mariana @ Mini
Marisol
Marisol de Chiapas @ Mini
Marisol de D.F. @ La Valentina
Marisol de Veracruz @ Mini
Mary de Mexico City @ Cascadas
Miriam @ Cascadas
Monica de Mexico City
Monica (hair) @ La Ribera
Nancy de Tlaxcala
Nancy de Veracruz @ El Portón
Natalia de Tampico @ Mini
Norma de Veracruz
Nubia @ La Valentina
Pati de Veracruz @ La Valentina
Paula
Pela de Tijuana @ Mini
Pilar de Puebla @ La Valentina
Paola de Puebla @ El Portón
Rocio
Romina de Veracruz @ El Portón
Rosalinda de Tabasco @ Mini
Rosana de Puebla @ Venecia
Saida @ Venecia
Sandra de Veracruz @ Venecia
Sandra @ Mini
Sandy de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Sara @ Venecia
Sonia @ Mini
Sonia de Mexico City @ Mini
Sondra de Puebla
Stephanie @ Cascadas
Susan @ Cascadas
Susanna de Veracruz @ Venecia
Sylvia @ Najera
Valeria de Guadalajara @ Cascadas
Vanessa @ Mini
Vanessa @ La Valentina
Veronica de Veracruz @ Cascadas
Veronica @ Mini
Violeta @ Najera
Wendy @ Mini
Yamilet de Mexico City @ Mini
Yermina de Guadalajara @ El Portón
Yesenia
Yolanda @ Mini

South Side of the Alley
Anna @ Eduardo
Araceli de Puebla @ Eduardo
Araceli de Veracruz @ Teresa
Beatriz de Acapulco @ Teresa
Brenda @ Teresa
Carla de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Carla de Veracruz @ Eduardo
Carolena @ Eduardo
Connie de Sinaloa @ Eduardo
Cristal @ Eduardo
Cynthia de Veracruz @ Najera
Denise @ Najera
Diana @ Eduardo
Diane de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Edith de Veracruz @ Teresa
Eli de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Erica de Puebla @ Eduardo
Erica de Veracruz
Erica
Fabiola de Veracruz @ Eduardo
Fabiola @ Najera
Gabby de Tabasco
Gemma de Puebla @ Eduardo
Grisel @ Eduardo
Jaqueleen @ Eduardo
Jasmine @ Eduardo
Jasmine @ Najera
Jennifer @ Eduardo
Jessica @ Najera
Karla @ Najera
Laura @ Eduardo
Lourdes (LuLu) @ Eduardo
Lucero de Veracruz @ Najera
Lucy @ Teresa
Margarita @ Eduardo
Maricela @ Eduardo
Marisol de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Maryela de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Monica de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Nancy @ Eduardo
Narcissa de San Diego, CA, USA @ Najera
Natalia de Leon @ Teresa
Natalie de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Nayeli de Acapulco @ Eduardo
Odalis @ Eduardo
Olga @ Diamante
Paula @ Eduardo
Rocio @ Najera
Samantha @ Venecia
Sandra @ Teresa
Sandra (Sandy) @ Eduardo
Sandra de Veracruz @ Najera
Stephanie de Mexico City @ Eduardo
Susana @ Eduardo
Valeria @ Najera
Yvette @ Najera

West Side of Constitución
Adela @ Diamante
Adriana de Sinaloa @ Diamante
Alejandra de Veracruz @ Diamante
Alicia @ Diamante
Annie
Arianna
Ariceli de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Blanca de Guadalajara @ Michoacan
Celeste @ Hacienda
Claudia @ Michoacan
Crystal @ Hacienda
Cynthia de Toluca @ Hacienda
Cynthia de Oaxaca @ Diamante
Diana @ Rio Nilo
Dulce
Eddie de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Edith de Mexico City @ Rio Nilo
Elizabeth @ Rio Nilo
Erika
Giovanna @ Hacienda
Gabriela @ Diamante
Itahary de Michoacan @ Diamante
Jessica
Jovana @ Hacienda
Karen @ Hacienda
Karina @ Rio Nilo
Laura de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Leslie de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Leticia de Durango @ Hacienda
Liliana de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Linda de Mexico City @ Hacienda
Lisbeth de Veracruz
Lizabath de Puebla
Mari @ Rio Nilo
Mari de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Mariana (Morelia)
Mariana de Mexico City @ Rio Nilo
Marisol de Puebla @ Rio Nilo
Martha @ Rio Nilo
Monica de Puebla @ Rio Nilo
Monica de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Monica (hair)
Miclaudia @ Hacienda
Olga de Veracruz
Perla de Puebla @ Ribera
Rubi de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Valeria de Mexico @ Diamante
Vanessa de Veracruz @ Diamante
Yuriana
Yvonne @ Diamante

East Side of Constitución
Adrianna @ Hacienda
Adrianna de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Alexandra @ Michoacan
Alma @ Hacienda
Alondra de Veracruz @ Irma
Carolina @ Irma
Carla de Puebla @ Irma
Carla de Puebla @ Irma
Carla de Mexico City @ Irma
Daniela @ Hacienda
Deanna @ Irma
Elizabeth de Veracruz @ Michoacan
Esmeralda @ Hacienda
Erica @ Hacienda
Evelyn de Acapulco
Graciela @ Michoacan
Graciela @ Michoacan
Guadalupe de Acapulco @ Najera
Jacalyn @ Hacienda
Jasmine de Puebla @ Michoacan
Jasmine de Hidalgo @ Hacienda
Jericho de D.F. @ Hacienda
Jessica de Veracruz @ Irma / Diamante Plus
Karin
Kenya @ La Ribera
Lisbeth de Veracruz
Lucia de Veracruz @ Irma
Malisa @ Hacienda
Maribela de Puebla @ Hacienda
Mariela de Puebla @ Hacienda
Michelle de Mazatlan @ Michoacan
Monica de Mexico City @ Irma
Monserrat de Puebla @ Michoacan
Nancy @ Hacienda
Perla de Puebla @ Ribera
Perla de Veracruz @ La Ribera
Renata de Puebla
Sandi de Guanajuato @ Hacienda
Sandra de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Sandra de Veracruz @ Irma
Sonia de Veracruz @ Michoacan
Tania (Tamara ) @ Hacienda
Vanessa de Guadalajara @ Michoacan
Vicky de Veracruz @ Hacienda
Vivian @ Irma

Articulo123 (1st Street / Calle Primera)
Abigail de Mazatlan
Erika de Veracruz
Jacquelin de Veracruz @ Diamante Plus
Jessica @ Colon
Monica de Veracruz @ Colon
Myra (Esefani)
Nellie
Sandra de Michoacan @ Colon
SaraE de Chiapas @ Hotel 273
Sonia de Veracruz
Veronica

East Side of Ninos Heros
Iris @ Kumbala
Paola de Veracruz @ Kumbala
Yalitsa

Walkers/Roaming Chicas
Alexa
Arlene
Candy
Candy de Riverside, CA, USA
Christie de San Diego, CA, USA
Diva
Elaine de Azusa
Jocelyn de Coahuila
Josefina de Coahuila
Kendra
Lisa
Liz de Santa Barbara, CA, USA
Lucy
Mari de Guadalajara @ Los Monitos
Maria de Oklahoma, USA
Michelle de Long Beach, CA, USA
Monica @ Tapatio
Rosa Maria
Rosie de Guadalajara
Roxanne

Unknown/Unusual Location
Carla de Guadalajara
Diana
Evelyn
Ismerelda de Mexico City
Jessica de Veracruz @ Acapulco
Marisol
Nancy @ Mini or Najera
Sara
Stephanie de Venezuela

[Lascivious]

Please post less vague and more comprehensive information next time. <JK>

Damn man how do you do it?

[Member #2041]

Please post less vague and more comprehensive information next time. <JK>

Damn man how do you do it?
It's really simple - he copied that list from the TJ amigos website. You'll notice, it's over 16 months old.

[SgtPerv]

It's really simple. He copied that list from the Tijuana amigos website. You'll notice, it's over 16 months old.That is where this old list came from and not trying to deny it. The purpose is to show how many girls actually are working in a two block area. This is just the streets. The bars have another hundred or so. It is legal there. Did not state the web site for two reasons and mostly it is because Jackson does not like it.

I did not give away any real secrets, just gave away what to expect in Tijuana. The names constantly change but new chicas are there.

[SgtPerv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=player_embedded

It is so simple. lol

[Member #2041]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=player_embedded

It is so simple. lol

That might be the funniest thing I've ever seen on YouTube

[DaytonaMonger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtnCkE5RpK0&feature=player_embedded

It is so simple. lolHOLY CRAP LOL! I saw that chica standing outside the kinkle bar! That video is hilarious!

[Justwhtup]

I am in the San Diego area and was interested in going to TJ for the first time,I don't speak spanish.and was wonderin what is the going rate for bbbj,cbj,fs.and how much for the room,I was thinkin from what I have read the best bet is Adelitas during the day,maybe around noon unless that is too early.

Any help would be appreciated.

[SgtPerv]

I am in the San Diego area and was interested in going to TJ for the first time,I don't speak spanish.and was wonderin what is the going rate for bbbj,cbj,fs.and how much for the room,I was thinkin from what I have read the best bet is Adelitas during the day,maybe around noon unless that is too early.

Any help would be appreciated.Do not need Spanish. Everyone knows the game being played. Adelitas is the place for the hotties but on weekdays you have less to chose from (most work nights, opens at 10am).

Not every chica will do bb. Price during the day can be $40-$60 dollars for 30 min. depending on your skill in negotiations. The smart camper will use pesos .
Figure $12 for the room rental. Smart camper will use pesos.

If that is all you want then you could always go (taxi $5) to cheaters and pay $60 for an hour.

Read the links I have posted first to max your fun.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146

[Lascivious]

It's really simple - he copied that list from the TJ amigos website. You'll notice, it's over 16 months old.

Oh...Duh. I should have know that. I haven't been to TJ or the site in a long time.

[Tjfan24]

Long time reader here. First time poster. I'm heading to San Diego for 2 weeks of business in mid-September and am looking for a wingman for some Tijuana trips. Don't get me wrong, living in Chicago offers its fair share of beautiful women, but nothing like Tijuana (and the prices are unmatched)! I can't wait to hit the adult Disneyland!

Having been quite a few times before, I'm familiar and comfortable with heading to Tijuana. Being a former athlete and football player, I don't get messed with too often in Tijuana. It's just getting boring going alone. It would be fun to head over with some like-minded buddies for some drinks, women and sports watching at some of the best adult clubs in the world.

If you are a newbie to Tijuana, or have never gone but really want to, heading over with someone experienced is helpful. I can show you the ropes. If you are a veteran, it never hurts to head over with a wingman. Regardless of your status, if you are interested, let's set up something. We can meet near the Jack-in-the-Box on the US side and head over to paradise!

Private message me if you are interested.

[Dranonymous]

Do folks typically check Medical cards before taking a girl up, or back? I've read that the girls in ZN must have regular medical checkups, and 1) They get documentation proving this, and 2) They will show it to customers upon request?

Thanks,

DrA

[SgtPerv]

Do folks typically check Medical cards before taking a girl up, or back? I've read that the girls in ZN must have regular medical checkups, and 1) They get documentation proving this, and 2) They will show it to customers upon request?

Thanks,

DrASome people ask but what you want to watchout for are the walkers. On the street , there are two basic types, the girls who walk around and the ones who stand at a certain place (paraditas-little girls who stand).The paraditas will have a card but there is a good chance that the actual walkers do not.

Some girls might be shy about showing it to you because it has their real name on the card.

Always bring your own condoms because the Mexican style in the zona are thick like having sex with an inner tubes wrapped on Mr. Happy.

[SgtPerv]

HOLY CRAP LOL! I saw that chica standing outside the kinkle bar! That video is hilarious!You might find yourself in a conversation like this. Crossing the street at Ninos Heroes is TV area and I do not mean Televison.

[Vitrea]

See the international section for a couple my recent posts.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=924213#post924213

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2231

[SgtPerv]

See the international section for a couple my recent posts.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=924213#post924213

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2231You have to tell or ask them how many pesos because they will naturally assume you are using USD.Taxi driver are famous for not having change no matter what currency you use. Bar and hotel prices are a set price of 12-1 ( still cheaper). The biggest saving comes from dealing with the chicas. My Spanish is also poor so that is not a factor.

If you have been there before and the chicas know you use USD before, well they know what you have paid in the past and will want the same. You have to re establish yourself. Like any provider they will try to get more from you.

Take a cheat sheet with you to reduce any hassles and have change with you.

I also just read your strip club TR. You spent $20 USD on 7 dances ($140 USD) DAMN! I can get fs twice in TJ easy for that and in a hotel bed.

[A Knucklehead]

Considering the pictures of the girls standing to pee, here is a hilarious video - Click on the 2nd view from the top on the right

http://whizbiz.com.au

[Vitrea]

You have to tell or ask them how many pesos because they will naturally assume you are using USD.Taxi driver are famous for not having change no matter what currency you use. Bar and hotel prices are a set price of 12-1 ( still cheaper). The biggest saving comes from dealing with the chicas. My Spanish is also poor so that is not a factor.

If you have been there before and the chicas know you use USD before, well they know what you have paid in the past and will want the same. You have to re establish yourself. Like any provider they will try to get more from you.

Take a cheat sheet with you to reduce any hassles and have change with you.

I also just read your strip club TR. You spent $20 USD on 7 dances ($140 USD) DAMN! I can get fs twice in TJ easy for that and in a hotel bed.

SgtPerv,

I totally hear you. San Diego SCs are horrible value but they do have some lookers. I have had great experiences in TJ but not this last time.

Also, my thing about US $ vs pesos is personal. I just don't have the time or inclination to deal with the hassle and interestingly, this time, I did not find any savings either. I do envy you....

Nice art work that you posted below :-)

[Dranonymous]

Is it typical for girls at HK or AT to offer threesomes (two chicas)? I saw the HK scam thread, and wondered what WOULD be an appropriate price to expect if offered.

DrA

[SgtPerv]

Is it typical for girls at HK or AT to offer threesomes (two chicas)? I saw the HK scam thread, and wondered what WOULD be an appropriate price to expect if offered.

DrADouble the price. So at least $100-$120.

[The Camel]

Is it typical for girls at HK or AT to offer threesomes (two chicas)? I saw the HK scam thread, and wondered what WOULD be an appropriate price to expect if offered.

DrAIn the heavily trafficked gringo bars that you mention, expect the chicas to expect close to full price for each of them. So if it is 30 minutes short term with a chica who usually gets $60, you might get the two of them for $100. You also have to pay the hotel double the rate for the short term.

Traditionally AB threesomes are a joke. The chicas not really getting into each other in any real way, and most just taking turns with you while the other checks her cell phone. But lately I think things are evolving and the newer younger generation of chicas are more openly into 3-ways and girl on girl play. I have a lesbian amiga who mongers in Tijuana and is really bringing the lesbian out of the AB hotties.

HK it is always easier to get what you want as the chicas mostly are less hard core professional then the AB girls, and get DRUNK (AB chicas rarely get drunk drinking thimbles of juice). HK is an erotic 3 ring circus and with all the live lesbian shows going on the whole idea of 3 ways are more accepted and lots of the HK chicas including the "sash girls" (edecanes), are loving each other in their spare time.

I advise avoiding chicas who go around working as a duo. Usually they are just sharky hustlers who will put you through a robotic program in the room. Best way to get what you want in Tijuana is to take your time, buy fichas, gain confidence with the chicas, and take charge of your own porno scene. Take control and be the director and not the directed. Always diffiucult to accomplish this in AB unless you are there all the time spreading around el dinero generously. Outside of AB and especially in the locals bars it is easier to gain control and with that, quality and lower prices. The key is gaining "confianza" by hanging out with the chica, dancing, et al. Fluent spanish not required but even basic conversational spanish opens up a new and much better world of Tijuana mongering.

[Hate Veggies]

Senior member coming to SD first week in January. I haven't seen any reports from here in a while. Can anyone tell me a sitrep on the border? I was thinking of going to TJ and trying Adelitas or one of the other establishments and would appreciate any recommendations/information. I wasn't sure with H1N1 or any other issues if I should stay in SD and save myself the trouble. PMs are fine. Let me know if you are ever in my areas. Thanks, take care and play safe.

[SgtPerv]

Tijuana is safer now in the zona now than it was last summer with increased police presence. Try Hong Kong bar that is located just down a few doors down from AB. Taxi in and out and do not roam around at night. Going out the backdoor of HK, you will be in the famed Alley.

Enjoy!

[ManWithStamina]

Veg-

Cross the border. Go straight ahead to the Yellow Cabs. Tell the guy 5 bucks for Hong Kong. Yellow Cabs are tourist friendly. Taxi Libra is better, they are just a little harder to get to. Do not pay more than 5 bucks. Tell him Hong Kong only. No massage parlor nothing else. Make sure you are dropped of across street from a store called OXXO. This will ensure you are on the main street and not the alley. Adelita does not have access from Alley like Hong Kong.

Go to Hong Kong. There you will see what a strip club should be like here in the states. Two or three doors down to the east us Adelita. (looking at Honk Kong's front door Adelitas is to the left) While in Hong Kong grab some boobs, grab some butts, get your unit rubbed all for the price of a buck a grab.

Take the Taxi back to border when done.

BTW:all the woman there are there for one thing. To take your Money in exchange for allowing you to put your dick in them. Nothing else.

[The Camel]

Senior member coming to SD first week in January. I haven't seen any reports from here in a while. Can anyone tell me a sitrep on the border? I was thinking of going to TJ and trying Adelitas or one of the other establishments and would appreciate any recommendations/information. I wasn't sure with H1N1 or any other issues if I should stay in SD and save myself the trouble. PMs are fine. Let me know if you are ever in my areas. Thanks, take care and play safe.

No "issues" to be concerned about. However, be aware that there is an annual holiday chica exodus/migration this time of year. The holiday season officially ends in Mexico after "El Dia de los Reyes" (Day of the Kings) which is Jan. 7th I believe. However, traditionally the TJ bars and streets have a fraction of the normal chica availability well into January and even later. In years past when business was better, chicas would leave in November and return in late February and early March - the zona was a ghost town between Christmas and Day of the Kings. Now the bad economy is keeping more chicas in town and shortening the duration of holiday vacations. So bottom line, is you won't find a very good selection in early January, but it will be better than in prior years, and probably more than enough.

If you speak a little bit of Spanish, look for winning chicas in bars like Tropical and Las Chevales. Much better service and better times than dealing with the room robots of Adelitas. Hong Kong is a must visit location but it runs hot and cold if you are particular about looks. Chicago Club is not too bad these nights - never good in the daytime.

Bottom line is if you are here for pure leisure and mongering, TJ at its worst is better than SD at its best. If you are going to put some serious time into TJ I strongly advise staying on the Mexico side - specifically at a downtown luxury hotel called Hotel Ticuan (8th street between Constitucion and Revolucion). It's only $50 per night for a Marriott quality room that is only about a half mile from the zona de panocha - a $3 cab ride or 10-15 minute walk, and you won't have to deal with the fucking border day in and day out. Bring chicas back to this hotel for memorable all nighters after you take 'em out for dinner, drinking and dancing. Beats the hell out of a 30 minute get 'em in, get 'em off, get 'em out session at Adelita Bar or the same for $20 with a street girl. If you speak no spanish, than your options are more limited - but still good times with good chicas available.

[Hate Veggies]

Thanks again for all your suggestions. Probably will head there as soon as I'm off the plane and spend the afternoon, head back before dark. Too bad it's such a short trip or I would take the advice on the hotel. I'll let you know if I find a jewel to share while I'm there. Take care and play safe.

[Tim Gunz]

I was wondering, if you go to Tijuana, is it possible to get 2 girls at once? Would they agree to that?

[Member #2041]

I was wondering, if you go to Tijuana, is it possible to get 2 girls at once? Would they agree to that?

I'm sure you can get 2 girls to go, so long as each one is getting paid - but whether or not they will "interact" is another question - and most won't. You might be able to find some that actually are girlfriends who will, but I'm not personally aware of any.

[Hadezh]

I was wondering, if you go to Tijuana, is it possible to get 2 girls at once? Would they agree to that?

I have gotten two SWs a couple times. Problem is when SWs are together they are much more likely to upsale you.

Both times I have done it I have told one of the girls to leave so I could have fun with the one who was not being a *****.

Maybe someone who goes down more often then me or speaks spanish well would have better luck.

[Hate Veggies]

Thanks again for all your suggestions. Probably will head there as soon as I'm off the plane and spend the afternoon, head back before dark. Too bad it's such a short trip or I would take the advice on the hotel. I'll let you know if I find a jewel to share while I'm there. Take care and play safe.

Well, I started at Adelitas looked around and talked to a few, went to HK enjoyed another beer, then crossed over to Tropical. Here's what I found on the day I went. Adelitas more aggressive of those interested. One was too aggressive and offered everything including anal, including multiples for 40. She got a buck to go away.

HK nobody came up to talk to me. I did tip a couple of girls. I saw one guy want to socialize with one girl and had to get one of the staff to break into her conversation with another girl. No one seemed real interested in making money (maybe it's the culture of the club). Unfortunately the only two that I was interested in was the two in conversation with each other

So I looked across the street and saw potential walking into Tropical and the 2for1 sign outside. Went in and staff talked to me in English. I forgot the info here that with my limited spanish that I should skip this spot. Staff talked me into going vip with the girl that he thought was prettiest. She was and two others were my type as well. This one was Rosalii, 18 yo spinner type with pretty face. I understood her drink was $7, did not tell me that it was a 5 drink minimum for her in the vip. He said vip was fs, but she only wanted to dance there and wanted to go to the hotel. The rest of the story was disappointing. Would not recommend unless you have the time and language skills to increase your odds.

Went back to Adelitas and was looking for any of three that I thought I would try earlier, but they were busy with other clients earlier at the time. This time a 22 yo named Holy Night or Santo Noche (funny). She had some vampire like k9 teeth, but a nice, fun smile. Her english was good and she had a GF air about her. Told her I was short on time so could we skip right to the fun. She was wonderful about it all. She even brought her own coat so that I didn't have to pay for the wrap at the door. 60 for massage, body to body rub, OWC, and FSC multiple positions. She did ask for a tip which I gave her an extra 20 because it was the best that I've had in a while and we didn't have any drinks in Adelitas. I would, if there was time on my trip, go back and visit with her more.

There were a bunch of girls and then a few that were similarly dressed in black. I never found out what was up with them. They were definately worth getting to know, short of any surprises. There was one other lady there that was MILF material. She was probably one of the older girls there but definately MILF material.

Thanks again for all the info before my trip.

[Klubkon]

I was wondering, if you go to Tijuana, is it possible to get 2 girls at once? Would they agree to that?My spanish is not great, so the two times I've had 2 girls at once they ended up "ganging up" on me for upsells and talking in spanish about how they could extract more money from me. One ended up just leaving with her money to "go get a drink" and not coming back while the other one was "keeping me company". Be careful. But as long as your spanish is good and you get agreements up front you should be good.

[Steelecan]

Today was the day I had my first street girl. I used to be so scared to do it. I finally got up enough courage to do it. Took a taxi down to the arch and walked down Calle 2. Turned right or west on Constitucion and saw some SW lined up. Turned left on Calle Coahuila checking out the ladies. Nobody reached to grab me, but they were making noises to get my attention. I was nervous and did not want to spend a lot of time scoping out the perfect girl. One girl caught my fancy and wanted $20, but I wanted to see just a list bit more.

Just a little bit further, I see a nice looking girl with some nice cleavage. She said $25 sin ropa. This being my first time, I did not want to negotiate. I just wanted to get the first one out of the way. Her name is Marisa about 5 5" 130lbs with B cups dark brown/black hair. I gave her the ok and we went to the hotel. It was called Teresa. Let me know if that is correct.

You know that prostitution has to be legal when the hotel room is basically just a fuck room. No bathroom or even a sink. Just a bed! Jail cells are bigger than these rooms. She lubed up and told me to go slow. I pounded her mish for a few then turned her over so that I can hit it doggy. I finally bust and she gave me some tissue and wipes. I had my own condom and lube, but she had some as well. I used my condom and used her lube. After we were done, I thought Yes I finally did it.

What makes it comfortable for me is to go down there during a week day and going before noon. Stay tuned for more reports in the future. I am now sold on SW. So much cheaper than the club girls & massage girls and you don't get hassled to buy drinks! Give me your feedback. Remember it was my first time lol

$50 TJ Challenge
$5 parking (behind Jack in the box)
$10 taxi there & back
$25 girl
$3 hotel
$4 tacos
=$47 Succeeded!

[Member #2041]

Steelecan, once you learn your way around TJ, you can turn that $10 in cab fare into $1.50 for bus fare, or even less if you're comfortable walking - during daylight hours, I don't mind the walk at all. And the riskiest behavior you partook in was eating $4 in TJ tacos.

And the Theresa has got to be the worst shithole among the hooker hotels in the zona. The better ones will set you back $4 or $5

[Steelecan]

Steelecan, once you learn your way around TJ, you can turn that $10 in cab fare into $1.50 for bus fare, or even less if you're comfortable walking - during daylight hours, I don't mind the walk at all. And the riskiest behavior you partook in was eating $4 in TJ tacos.

And the Theresa has got to be the worst shithole among the hooker hotels in the zona. The better ones will set you back $4 or $5


Thanks for the advice. I saw a bus while in the line for the border and it said you can buy online. Forgot the website though. Yeah that hotel was crappy, but I dont care that much cuz Im only there for a short time. Would like a nicer one though. With the tacos, I have been going to the place called Taco Bell for years lol not the american one. They have 3 tacos for $1. Been eating there over 10 yrs. Scared to try another place lol. I will check on the bus

[SgtPerv]

Excellant Steelecan, I would suggest using pesos instead of USD. It will add to your savings and give you the appearance of a experienced SG man. The chicas will be less likely to try to scam you.

You got a good price for what got. I prefer the sg over the bargirls myself. Take some travel size hand cleaner for quick clean up.

[Qpzm1]

I thought you needed a passport now?

And who were those 3 americans killed recently? I saw it in the usa today. Was it drug related too?

Thanks!I believe you are talking about the 3 gangsters from colonia. They went to mexico thinking they could burn a drug connection. But they failed to realize. They were attempting to burn. A big drug cartel. So they were tortured and got there heads chopped off.

[Redmun]

Tijuana is getting boring.

But these bitches are really hot.

[Flyinhi]

Anyone visited Tijuana in the last week or two? I'm in San Diego again for a coupla days but haven't been accross the border in like 15 years. I've heard about the gangs and the gunfights, so I guess I'm wondering if it's still safe? If I park on the US side, and take a taxi down to the Zona to maybe the Chicago or the HK, what sort of trouble will a middle aged, slightly pudgy, balding, obviously gringo type guy like myself run into?

Thanks,

Flyinhi

[Flyinhi]

Anyone visited Tijuana in the last week or two? I'm in San Diego again for a coupla days but haven't been accross the border in like 15 years. I've heard about the gangs and the gunfights, so I guess I'm wondering if it's still safe? If I park on the US side, and take a taxi down to the Zona to maybe the Chicago or the HK, what sort of trouble will a middle aged, slightly pudgy, balding, obviously gringo type guy like myself run into?

Thanks,

Flyinhi

[Tomcat74]

Anyone visited Tijuana in the last week or two? I'm in San Diego again for a coupla days but haven't been accross the border in like 15 years. I've heard about the gangs and the gunfights, so I guess I'm wondering if it's still safe? If I park on the US side, and take a taxi down to the Zona to maybe the Chicago or the HK, what sort of trouble will a middle aged, slightly pudgy, balding, obviously gringo type guy like myself run into?

Thanks,

FlyinhiAdelitas/Hong Kong and BT are shut down right now!!! They were raided!

Other than that it is safe if you take a taxi..

[Flyinhi]

Thanks!

Any of the other bars/houses open?

I have to leave San Diego Friday.

Flyinhi


Adelitas/Hong Kong and BT are shut down right now!!! They were raided!

Other than that it is safe if you take a taxi..

[Tomcat74]

Thanks!

Any of the other bars/houses open?

I have to leave San Diego Friday.

FlyinhiThey re-opened last night!

[Maiko]

Tijuana is getting boring.

But these bitches are really hot.
Damn! Who is the one in glasses? Is she a street chica, work in one of the clubs or a escort?

[SgtPerv]

Yes it is safe if you take the highway but your car insurance is no good in Mexico as well as rental car. You can and should stop at the border and buy insurance for Mexico.

Great drive down but I would not travel at night for safty reasons. Insurance is a must in Mexico!

[SgtPerv]

Yes with right insurance. What I am saying is just because you rented a auto in the USA, do not think you are good to go in Mexico. Make sure you are insured and enjoy.

[Norman12]

Hi,

I can only be there in the morning and early afternnon from 10am to 1pm. Are there any acitons in the street or in the bars?

Thanks

[SgtPerv]

Limited but yes there would be action on the streets and bars in the zona. Some guys only go during the daytime.

[SgtPerv]

Limited but yes there would be action on the streets and bars in the zona.

Some guys only go during the daytime.

[Norman12]

If I come back early in the afternoon, should I expected a long line at the boarder getting back to US? What do you guys use, passport book or passport card? I need to decide which one to get.

Thanks


Limited but yes there would be action on the streets and bars in the zona.

Some guys only go during the daytime.

[SgtPerv]

If I come back early in the afternoon, should I expected a long line at the boarder getting back to US? What do you guys use, passport book or passport card? I need to decide which one to get.

ThanksActually I use my DL. I have a passport card but it is not being enforced. Best to have a passport card though.

If you mean at about 1pm ,no. If you are talking 3-5 maybe 30 min max.

[Hargow20]

Most US car rental companies prohibit drivers from taking cars into Mexico.

[Sriracha]

What do you guys use, passport book or passport card? I need to decide which one to get.
Why not get both? Keep in mind that the passport card is only valid for North American border crossings and not international travel.

[Hargow20]

A passport is a better value if you intend to travel overseas. You can also use a enhanced ID or Real ID drivers license. The enhanced ID allows a person to cross the Canadian or Mexican border. California has not start issuing them I believe.

You can still cross with a birth certificate. The customs service still let's people cross with a birth certificate. I have crossed with a birth certificate with no problems. Crossing the border on foot is the best way. Usually the wait not to long, but weekends and evenings are longer around 5-6pm.

[Rocknroll Guy]

What is the overall safety these days in Tijuana? I was in SD about 5 years ago and took the train to the border and had a great time. All I hear about now is peoples' fingers getting cut off to empty ATM's and such.

[Ocampluvr]

I go to Zona Norte fairly often and do not find it unsafe. There are places one should not go alone at night, but its the same as parts of SD or OC or LA.

Just use your big head and you will be fine. Depending on your level of comfort, you can use escorts for the highest level of safety and some agencies are going to deliver guaranteed GFEs.

BGs and SGs are progressively cheaper , but there are some gems in both groups.

I have walked from Hotel Ticuan to HK at 2 am and see families out strolling, so the safety factor can't be too bad.

Dale

[Member #2041]

What is the overall safety these days in Tijuana? I was in SD about 5 years ago and took the train to the border and had a great time. All I hear about now is peoples' fingers getting cut off to empty ATM's and such.
This is why fingerprints are never going to be used for ID verification purposes on ATMs. Trust me, the industry considered using them and rejected the idea for exactly this reason.

[Cohiba Robusto]

Most US car rental companies prohibit drivers from taking cars into Mexico.I have driven rental cars numerous times in TJ...and without insurance. I never tell the company I'm heading into Mexico and they never find out. The only time I got insurance was when a friend came along and he was going to drive around...so he bought insurance.

Now, once in TJ, I usually just use a cab (or walk) but having the car is so much better to get back over the border, especially with luggage.

[SgtPerv]

Yes you can do it but one accident and you will have to pay the rental damage and deal with Mexican law. Not worth the small price for insurance. Yes you can bring the car back over the border and swear it happened in ba parking lot stateside but the Mexican law is my main worry.

[Stegram]

Yes you can do it but one accident and you will have to pay the rental damage and deal with Mexican law. Not worth the small price for insurance. Yes you can bring the car back over the border and swear it happened in ba parking lot stateside but the Mexican law is my main worry.While waiting in traffic in TJ to cross the border back into the US, a motorcycle cop pulled up to our car and asked for proof of Mexican insurance.

Luckily, we had it. I think it would have turned out very badly if we didn't. I doubt he would have given us a ticket as we waited to cross back into the US.

[Member #3991]

... Depending on your level of comfort, you can use escorts for the highest level of safety and some agencies are going to deliver guaranteed GFEs...

Good timing on this post. What do you mean by "level of comfort"? I have been thinking about trying one of these agencies as it seems like some good times could be had. Do you, or does anyone else, have any specific recommendations on agencies and/or girls that provide both the safety and GFE you suggest? Thanks in advance!

[Sriracha]

I have driven rental cars numerous times in TJ...and without insurance. I never tell the company I'm heading into Mexico and they never find out.
I imagine that this is a new thing but I saw a Dateline NBC a couple of months ago where a guy incurred RIDICULOUS charges on his car rental because he took the car to Las Vegas in violation of the rental agreement. It turns out that the car had a GPS tracker that went off when he crossed the state line.

[SgtPerv]

No real need to take rental across border if you are just going to the zona. Park by the Jack in the Box and walk across the border and take a taxi. From there clubs are close together.

[Ocampluvr]

BY "level of comfort" I was trying to say that escorts are a sure thing with very little drama. Some mongers like the bar scene and others like the street girls. Neither of these provide the top quality service that the escorts do, although you may pay less for bar girls (or not, counting ficha drinks, etc).

I have had very good experiences with mexicolindabar (google it). They have some specials that will make you very happy. PM me for details, if you prefer.

[The Camel]

While waiting in traffic in TJ to cross the border back into the US, a motorcycle cop pulled up to our car and asked for proof of Mexican insurance.

Luckily, we had it. I think it would have turned out very badly if we didn't. I doubt he would have given us a ticket as we waited to cross back into the US.

Sounds like a shakedown attempt to me and that is very rare in automobile crossing lanes. Hope this isn't a signal of police criminality to return along with the PRI political party to power by winning the recent race for mayor. PRI tends to be more friendly to police corruption than the PAN party, but PRI is also MUCH more friendly to prostitution and night life in general in TJ...so, both of 'em suck and get in our way one way or another!

It is not a legal requirement to carry Mexico auto insurance when driving in Mexico. It is a practical necessity because if you do get into an accident, it will be determined there and then if you are responsible for personal injury and/or property damage. If yes, you go off to prison unless you can demonstrate financial responsibility...which means a policy issued by a Mexican company. Your U.S. company may cover you but it will take you time to demonstrate to the locals that your U.S. policy will cover. Worse, there are stories of uninsured motorists being detained in Mexico when they require medical care in U.S. from the accident, or just want to be under the care of U.S. doctors.

So it is not illegal per se to be driving uncovered. No legit reason for the cops to question you about it if you were not in a damage/injury causing accident. Tell them to take you to the judge if they persist even though it is inconvenient as hell. But please don't give them a single fucking peso as a bribe to get out of it. People do this and we'll all have to deal with the hassle over and over. Just say NO to mordidas!

But this is all a technicality because you're a little nuts if you drive in Mexico without the insurance. If you can afford the putas you can afford the coverage, and if you're a regular visitor, annual policies are cheap.

[Cohiba Robusto]

I would rent cars because a) I didn't want to drive my own car from Northern CA & b) I would always get a great deal which (even with gas) was far cheaper than flying & then cabbing or trolleying to the border. Driving would also allow me to bring things I wouldn't pack in my (plane) luggage like good booze and extra clothes. I would always stay for a minimum of 2 nights and sometimes 3-4.

I would cross the border and then park at the Pueblo Amigo. I pretty much refused to drive around Tijuana as it looks nuts in areas. I was then free to make quick trips to SD if needed and also to leave whenever I wanted as long as I didn't mind sitting in a line.

I believe that the cop pestering about insurance was an attempt at a shakedown.

[Member #3991]

BY "level of comfort" I was trying to say that escorts are a sure thing with very little drama. Some mongers like the bar scene and others like the street girls. Neither of these provide the top quality service that the escorts do, although you may pay less for bar girls (or not, counting ficha drinks, etc).

I have had very good experiences with mexicolindabar (google it). They have some specials that will make you very happy. PM me for details, if you prefer.

That is exactly what I prefer. I am not really into the bars and especially not into any drama. I have looked at many sites including MLB, CITJ, and LLA along with some lesser ones as well.

I was hoping for something around $250 for a couple of hours for GFE service including motel to make it worthwhile crossing the border. MLB seems a bit above my price range even with the September special.

[Member #3991]

Well I made my first visit south of the border. Set up a two hour appt with a gal from Elegant Escorts. They are based in Rosarito but it seems that most the their business is in TJ. Everything worked out well but I wish I could have spent more time in TJ. It really was a quick down and back trip. "La linea" was a real bear on the return.

Thanks to SgtPerv to giving me some tips and support in getting this organized. I really now want to do an overnight trip and really taste the other varieties of girls - LMP, Street, and Bar.

[Ed Norton]

If I come back early in the afternoon, should I expected a long line at the boarder getting back to US? What do you guys use, passport book or passport card? I need to decide which one to get.I have tried late in the afternoon and the wait is terribly long. Avoid rush hour if you want to keep your sanity. Last week I returned early in the afternoon and it only took 45 minutes. Two days later I even tried a morning visit, returning at about 12:30 PM. It took only 15 minutes, my best time ever! But the selection of SWs was not as good, and who wants to play that early anyway.

I have always used a passport book, which is bulky in the pocket, so I'm thinking of applying for the card.

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Side note:
When I approached the U.S. border crossing agent with a pleasant greeting, helpfully turning the book so the word "Passport" faced him, he stared at me glumly and said:

"Open it and turn to the identification page".

Oh man. Is it me, or can't I expect someone to accept a document they issued me and handle it any way they want, without a petty order like that? Perhaps yet another reason to get the card. ;)

[Wasted Kkid]

Im dropping off a buddy at the TJ airport tonight around 9ish and want to know if there is anything around to partake in!?

[Leverslit]

Lets see, saturday night around 9pm, nah it will probably be dead.


Im dropping off a buddy at the TJ airport tonight around 9ish and want to know if there is anything around to partake in!?

[Jack Mehof]

Wow, first a big thank you for all the posts here. They really helped me in my mongering. I'm a vegas guy and let me tell you, I had so much fun in Tijuana it was crazy! Got there around 4 pm and left around 10 pm same day. Drive from vegas (I like driving) Parked at the parking lot with the swap meet near the border and walked across. The Mexican Federales were there to greet everyone, but no biggie. Grabbed a cab and told the cabbie Zona Norte Honk Kong. He said $5 and took me in. 5 minutes later, I was in heaven. I never expected it to be so nice. I walked in and Diablo an older balding gentleman brought me a beer and a girl. The girl seemed a bit shy. Diablo really took care of me there. He spoke good english and was a good translator for me the whole time I was in the club. A beer was $4. One time he brought a drink for the girl and charged me $7 for it without asking ahead of time, but I told him no more and he respected that. The atmosphere and clientele was similar to an american strip club. It was large, two stories and clean. Nobody was getting too rowdy, it was just a party. Soccer was on the tv and mexico was winning so everyone was happy.

The girls were unbelievable. So good. All of them. They were either a nice / 10 or a HOT / 10 all of them. They had a lesbian shaving cream show on one stage, two Jacuzzis where girls were bathing. 2 stages where girls were dancing and that was just downstairs. I figured out quickly that for a $1 tip, you can play with tits, finger a girl on stage and more. Now, back to the shy girl. I was asked by diablo if I wanted a lap dance from her. Agreed for twenty and they took me to a closed door room where she danced and let me suck on her tits, DFK and she rubbed my johnson for 3 songs. She wouldn't do more than that though in the room. She was beautiful, but spoke no english. I asked diablo how much for sex from her, after a short conversation with her, he told me that it was her first day on the job and she didn't know how things worked there, so I should pick someone else.

After awhile I found a good one. She spoke english and I asked her how much to go to the hotel for sex. She told me $60. I agreed and off we went. Tipped the door guy $1. Went right next door. $14 for the room. Proceeded to disrobe in the room. BBBJ then covered mish and doggie. Wonderful time, took a picture for you. The girl was much better than the picture shows. The second picture is of the second one I took back. Same exact deal. Wonderful. After awhile I got hungry and went out to get a taco from a street vendor. Best. Taco. Ever. I then got 2 more. Wow, the tacos were as good as the girls. Now, went back and just played around until about 9 pm. Walked around and checked out the other bars for a bit and checked out the street action. I didn't have any of the girls come up to me but I was walking fast. Fun to look at! Next time I will get one of them. I then jumped in a cab and went back to the border for $5. No problems going back and no wait at all. Used a birth certificate and NV licence. No Montezumas Revenge either, and I did have a drink with ice in it.

All in all, I felt safer here than in some parts of LA or LV. It was just great. Will repeat! Oh, there were about 60 girls and 100 guys or so.

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[SDkid89]

This is strange that I post this but I want to go to Tijuana and bang some hotties. The problem is that I don't want to go alone and my friends aren't into that. I do speak spanish and just haven't gone yet to Tijuana and done that. Anyone let me know if anyone is down. PS I live in San Diego.

[Ilikebbw]

I am contemplating a visit to Southern California and it sounds as though Tijuana is quite a place to visit. I've never been there.

On a different website, I read about how at Adelita's, for $35 you can buy a room for the night, instead of paying $12 for a half hour or whatever. Does anyone have experience with this? Obviously, you would be paying your girl more than $60. The report I read said $150-$200 for an all night session. The idea sounds like a lot of fun to me. Finding a dancer who is a 9 or a 10 (which they supposedly have) and going at it as many times as I could possibly muster.

Any thoughts or experiences with this? I suppose the same thing could be had for less by renting a room somewhere and bringing a girl there. I also imagine that this might not be a great idea on a first visit. It's more something you would try with someone you have become familiar with over the course of several trips.

[The Camel]

I am contemplating a visit to Southern California and it sounds as though Tijuana is quite a place to visit. I've never been there.

On a different website, I read about how at Adelita's, for $35 you can buy a room for the night, instead of paying $12 for a half hour or whatever. Does anyone have experience with this? Obviously, you would be paying your girl more than $60. The report I read said $150-$200 for an all night session. The idea sounds like a lot of fun to me. Finding a dancer who is a 9 or a 10 (which they supposedly have) and going at it as many times as I could possibly muster.

Any thoughts or experiences with this? I suppose the same thing could be had for less by renting a room somewhere and bringing a girl there. I also imagine that this might not be a great idea on a first visit. It's more something you would try with someone you have become familiar with over the course of several trips.It's a buyer's market these last few years in Tijuana so nothing can be absolutely ruled out, but in a general sense, you've been misinformed. Adelita Bar may have some 8's and 9's, but none of them are going to do TLNs ("toda la noche" = allnighters) for $150-200 unless you are a stud and one of them is seriously interested in you for her own pleasure and fantasy after fucking a slew of fat old guys all day (like me). That goes 100X more if you're a newbie and you don't speak conversational spanish. Adelita chicas are the best English speaking group in the zona norte, but still a decent number don't speak any English except for the price.

$150-200 TLNs are easily obtainable in bars other than Adelita and Hong Kong. The bars less frequented by gringos. If you speak spanish and all night is what you want, you should focus more on bars like Las Chevelas and Tropical. You can simulate an actual date in these bars, spending time drinking and dancing with the chicas (which does cost money too). You have the chance to build a real connection and they will take care of your all night needs and maybe for nothing because this is another breed from the hardened Adelita / Hong Kong puta culture. These chicas are more girl next door type, more natural, less puta. Service is better though the chicas may be less sexually sophisticated. But they are more game than the robotic Adelita short term high volume providers.

Fine to get a room at the Adelita hotel for multiple short term use. But they won't let you bring in chicas from other bars or street girls. An Adelita TLN if you insist on an 8 or 9 is going to be more like $300 or more, and she will be trying to escape the room a lot earlier than you have in mind. For TLNs, better to find a nicer room in a decent hotel outside of the red light district even if you pay more, and take chicas from pretty much any other bar than Adelita.

There's really so much more to explain to a newbie but I can't write a primer here. Best to just make the trip and don't be too ambitious. Go a few times and you get a feel for the monger culture and ultimately develop the expertise that it actually takes to get the best that Tijuana has to offer. Don't plan anything. The answer is blowing in the wind.

[SgtPerv]

For the newbie, I recomend Hotel Nelson for a base camp. It is right at the arch so it is easy to find and close to zona. The zona can get crazy at times so it is nice to have a place to retreat to for rest and bathroom. Its an older building but your a half block from zona roja. Its safe and has a nice view from the third floor.

As stated before, go with the flow there and check all things out before making decisions. Lots of chicas and entertainment to be seen.

[Guitarrefreak]

I don't think you really want to spend the night at adelita's room, regardless of whether its 12 or 35.

You may be better off (depending on when in the week) , just booking a room earlier at ticuan or caesars.


I am contemplating a visit to Southern California and it sounds as though Tijuana is quite a place to visit. I've never been there.

On a different website, I read about how at Adelita's, for $35 you can buy a room for the night, instead of paying $12 for a half hour or whatever. Does anyone have experience with this? Obviously, you would be paying your girl more than $60. The report I read said $150-$200 for an all night session. The idea sounds like a lot of fun to me. Finding a dancer who is a 9 or a 10 (which they supposedly have) and going at it as many times as I could possibly muster.

Any thoughts or experiences with this? I suppose the same thing could be had for less by renting a room somewhere and bringing a girl there. I also imagine that this might not be a great idea on a first visit. It's more something you would try with someone you have become familiar with over the course of several trips.

[DingmanHI]

I was in San Diego for work and planned on going to Tijuana to partake in the activities. Did my research on this site and others. Had a great experience down there.

Getting there: I drove down from San Diego and parked in one of the lots across the street from the pedestrian bridge. Parking was $5 for 10 hours. Good deal. You can also take the SD Trolley which drops off at the border, but the trolley stops around 1 am so if you plan on staying in Tijuana any later, the trolley may not be an option. Once parked, you'll have to walk the pedestrian bridge over to Tijuana. The bridge is pretty long, but everything is well lit and safe. Once in Tijuana, I jumped in one of the yellow cabs. The yellow cabs do not have meters and I have read various reports that the charge to Hong Kong can be between $5-$10. The yellow cab driver will tell you that there is nowhere to pull over in front of Hong Kong and instead will drop you off in front of Adelita bar. That's fine. Just walk two doors down to Hong Kong. I never asked the driver for the price of the cab ride. Instead I just handed him $5 and got out. Never had a problem.

Safety: I never felt unsafe at the border crossing or at the clubs. The only time I was a little concerned was during the cab ride. The ride to Zona Norte at night goes through some pretty shady areas. There were a couple of points where we passed by some shops with groups of shady looking men hanging out in front. Kept worrying that the cabbie would just pull over in one of these shady areas. But he didn't. Once in the Zona Norte I felt very safe. It is well lit and has kind of a Downtown Vegas / Fremont Street feel to it.

The Club: Walked into the Hong Kong club and I was in heaven. The club decor is very high class. More importantly, there were beautiful ladies everywhere. There is a main stage in the center of the club. Another stage in the back of the club and one more stage upstairs. The stage dancers do your typical strip club show. Then there are girls dancing on the bar and on mini stages. Then there are girls hanging out in different areas of the club, just waiting to be picked up. There was a shaving cream show when two girls covered in cream made out and licked eachother's pussies on stage. Dollar tips will get you a good opportunity to grope the girls, maybe suck on their tits and finger their pussies. Most of the girls in the club were 8's. There were a couple of 9-10's and some 5's hanging out in the back of the club. I grabbed myself a beer from the bar and nursed it while waling around the club for a while. Only bad part about the club are the bartenders who are very pushy. But, if you have a beer in your hand, they will stay away.

Eventually, I sat down with a girl. She said her real name was Michelle but her club name was Belen. She was a spinner, which I'm into. Great girl with a great personality. Once you sit down with a girl, the waiters go on overdrive trying to get you to buy the girl $8 drinks, snacks, $5 photos of you and the girl. I planned on just buying her one drink then going up to the Hotel to get full service. But we were having a real good time talking (she spoke good broken English). Ended up spending about an hour with Belen in one of the booths, drinking and talking all the while groping, finkering, french kissing and lap dancing. So spent a little more on drinks, but it was a good time. Eventually went to the hotel next door. Hotel room is small but nice and clean. She jumped in for a quick shower and then we got to business. Doggie, mish, cowgirl. Came after about 20 minutes. She got into it and came too. Since I was still hard, she said she wanted to do it again. We started up again. Got the knock on the door after 30 minutes. But she kept going. 10 minutes later we got the knock again.

Afterwards, I went to Adelitas. Much different vibe. Girls are not as hot, but there are a couple jewels. Hong Kong has a night club / strip club feel, while Adelitas, is just a bunch of girls standing around waiting for you to take them upstairs. If your looking for a quick fuck, Adelitas would be great. If you're looking for a great overall night Hong Kong is it. Wish I could've had one more night down there. I'll be back.

[Dragonfly08]

I was in Tijuana this afternoon and noticed there were NO milfs in the club to be found.

This is just my opinion, but Tijuana used to be a place for you to indulge in whateverthef*ck you were into.

Skinny, fat, tall, short, old, young, pretty, ugly, whatever.

But now it seems that all the girls in all the clubs are gravitating toward a singular look.

Please bring back the variety in Tijuana. I can find girls that look all the same at strip clubs in SD.

[Snapper123]

Dingman is right on in his report. Thanks for your accuracy.

I had two opportunities to cross the border this week. The first was on Wednesday. Followed the instructions to catch the cab and off I went to Adlettas. I arrived mid-afternoon. Plenty of women and all were different sizes, shapes, etc. A regular buffet. I sat at the bar, paid for a drink and watched the action. After 10 minutes, I was approached by Diana, a native from Tijuana. Straight black hair, big tits and an overall nice shape. I bought her a drink and we talked for a few minutes. Great personality. I thought about blowing her off to wait for another, but it hit me that she would be a good choice, so why waste the chance. We negotiated the price, then upstairs. Great action in many different positions. She delivered beyond my expectations.

I left Adelettas and caught a cab back to the border. I do not know if it was previously mentioned in this string, but on Wednesdays, there is usually an extraordinary long line to cross. I would have thought that I was going to stand 3 hours waiting to cross. Then, some entrepreneurial Mexicans were running vans along the line to pick up passengers and get into the bus line. For $5 I got into the van that already had 6 other US citizens and we ran through the bus line to the checkpoint. Less than 15 minutes from when the ca delivered me, I was through.

My second visit occurred early today. I crossed the border at 6AM, took the cab to HK. Unlike their advertisement, it is not open 24 hours. They closed at 7AM and told me that they would reopen at 10. Bummer! I asked the staff what else was open and went to another club nearby; La Cahrrita. Plenty of women, but none were "working". Left there and started down the street on the back side of HK and found plenty of working women. Found one hottie and took her to the hotel where she was working. $6 for th room, $15 for F / S. Headed bad to catch a cab back to the border, that was more manageable this time across (<30 minutes to cross).

[PimpinIt]

Her personality was one of her best qualities. 2nd only to her fat tits, juicy ass, tight wet pussy, and Dyson cyclone technology dick sucking ability.

[SlamBang2001]

Was down there last night, and Adelita's got raided by the policia around 1am. It was pretty disturbing because no one knew why a gang of 20 masked agents with guns had burst in or who they were. The chicas were screaming, and there were a few scuffles up by the door. Thoughts of being kidnapped, and sliced up into little bits, or ransomed, or having my spleen removed and sewn back up flashed through my mind. After a while there was no shooting, and we started to understand it was the policia, or actually they had AFI on their backs, and that they were there just to shakedown the club for drugs and weapons. They took the girls into the back room and searched them, (in my imagination, the policia was 'SEARCHING' them. <winkey smiley face in case the moderator pulls out smileys ). And another policia went through and gave the dudes a pat down search. It was kind of annoying because they had a SINGLE policia doing the pat down searches for a whole room full of guys, so you can imagine it was very slow.

A bathroom line formed, and they only allowed one single person to go in at a time. Also, the policia was walking around with their pistols unholstered. They were all pointing down, but it added to the effect.

Although the atmosphere was tense, after the initial surprise of the policia bursting in, I started to realize that as long as I didn't cause a scene, or draw any unwanted attention to myself, I was probably going to make it home.

All together, it took about 2 hours between when they burst in, to the time we were allowed to leave. I found out once I was outside that the whole block had gotten busted including HK and Las Chevellas along with the rest. I also heard an unconfirmed rumor that the policia had had a tipoff that a cartel bigwig was at the zona that day, and that's why they were shaking the clubs down.

I think the only person who benefited from the sting was the guy outside Adelitas selling at the hot dog stand. His business was booming. <smiley face .

It was an unpleasant experience, and kinda makes you take a minute to reflect on where you really are and what you're doing. I'm almost considering hanging up my hat on Tijuana and. Nah, fuck that, when you got the hot kinda tail like this little cutey, you got no chance to stay away.

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[SgtPerv]

per the mexican newspaper, the agents where looking for forced prositution, ****d girl and illegal aliens.

[PimpinIt]

Was down there last night, and Adelita's got raided by the policia around 1am. It was pretty disturbing because no one knew why a gang of 20 masked agents with guns had burst in or who they were. The chicas were screaming, and there were a few scuffles up by the door. Thoughts of being kidnapped, and sliced up into little bits, or ransomed, or having my spleen removed and sewn back up flashed through my mind. After a while there was no shooting, and we started to understand it was the policia, or actually they had AFI on their backs, and that they were there just to shakedown the club for drugs and weapons. They took the girls into the back room and searched them, (in my imagination, the policia was 'SEARCHING' them. <winkey smiley face in case the moderator pulls out smileys ). And another policia went through and gave the dudes a pat down search. It was kind of annoying because they had a SINGLE policia doing the pat down searches for a whole room full of guys, so you can imagine it was very slow.

A bathroom line formed, and they only allowed one single person to go in at a time. Also, the policia was walking around with their pistols unholstered. They were all pointing down, but it added to the effect.

Although the atmosphere was tense, after the initial surprise of the policia bursting in, I started to realize that as long as I didn't cause a scene, or draw any unwanted attention to myself, I was probably going to make it home.

All together, it took about 2 hours between when they burst in, to the time we were allowed to leave. I found out once I was outside that the whole block had gotten busted including HK and Las Chevellas along with the rest. I also heard an unconfirmed rumor that the policia had had a tipoff that a cartel bigwig was at the zona that day, and that's why they were shaking the clubs down.

I think the only person who benefited from the sting was the guy outside Adelitas selling at the hot dog stand. His business was booming. <smiley face.

It was an unpleasant experience, and kinda makes you take a minute to reflect on where you really are and what you're doing. I'm almost considering hanging up my hat on Tijuana and. Nah, fuck that, when you got the hot kinda tail like this little cutey, you got no chance to stay away.

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[ChrisPoontang]

per the mexican newspaper, the agents where looking for forced prositution, ****d girl and illegal aliens.mexican cops looking for illegal aliens.

talk about irony.

[SgtPerv]

Mexican cops looking for illegal aliens.

Talk about irony.LOL they do not want the Columbians and Hondurans coming and jumping in from of their people crossing the US / Mex border.

[Download X]

Went to Tijuana on the 12th (Sunday) and things were back to normal. However I heard that recently there have been long lines to return to the US, like 3 hours. Don't know what's up with that but it's reported on the International forum. Here is the main report I posted there:

Didn't see any lingering sign of the raid from Friday night, everything normal. Walked around the club at 8:30pm, about 20-30 girls were there. Saw three I liked and on my second circle around chatted with one I liked, from Mexicali. She was friendly and I asked her upstairs rather than buy drinks. Paid $12 for the room, paid her $70, and she said she'd give me a massage. She turned out to be really good at it, with her warm pussy sitting on top of my ass as she took her time. Next she had me turn over, and gave me a CBJ. Good technique, and great natural body as well. Asked me what position I liked, and we went at it however I wanted. The beds in this hotel have a mirror so it's always a nice touch. She mentioned that she did just massages as a side job. I asked her which days she worked and in reply she added that it was the end of her shift. It was just around 9pm still. Another successful trip. Total time from crossing border to crossing border: 50 minutes (10 minute walk + cab. 5 minute to choose a girl. 25 minutes with girl. 5 mins using club bathroom and looking. 10 minutes cab + walk. 5 minutes immigration.

In San Diego for comparison, it's generally impossible to get a girl like this for anything under $300 and she more often then not won't be as good or enthusiastic. In Tijuana you can get a good GFE experience more often than not at Adelitas, in my experience.

What follows is a brief guide for anyone new to Tijuana. It's only based off my experience over a few years as a SD local plus from friends I've shared info with. Thanks to everyone else who's helped all these years on this forum.

Itinerary. If you just want to fuck for money using the minimal time possible with no other hassles (MFM. Minimal Fuck for Money) , this is a bare bones step by step guide for beginners!

1) Drive towards the border on freeway 5 and exit the last exit (exit 1A). Pay attention to the freeway signs as you near the 3 mile mark where it lists all the exits. Take the last one, which will be labeled as "last exit USA". BTW, exit 1B is the second to last exit, so don't worry about passing it. Use google maps if you're not good with exits.

2) After you exit the freeway, choose a parking lot. I prefer going straight at the intersection, and making a right into the parking lot there. It's $10 which is more than other places, but the closest lot possible (I. E. Least walking distance). There are other lots of course as low as $4 you can walk from or take a shuttle. Take your ticket as you enter and leave it in your car when you park. Personally, I'd recommend getting to the border around 8pm if you're not sure. I also recommend only taking what you need, and if it's an MFM you're looking for then just take your Passport / driver's license, cash, car keys, and maybe even a cell phone (if you must). Just my opinion but I strongly recommend you don't take ATM or Credit Cards, any other form of I'd (business cards, etc.) , valuables, anything possibly considered a weapon, etc.

3) Walk to the sidewalk and head towards the border turnstile. Follow everyone else and you'll see. After the turnstile you'll be in the "neutral zone", and eventually walk through a second set of turnstiles. Keep going straight and you'll soon be at the taxi area which is full of taxis and guys dressed in black asking if you need a taxi. Say yes or si.

4) Tell them which bar you want to go to. I suggest Adelitas Bar as your first stop by default, both because it's good and because they're unlikely to mishear you say it. The fare is typically $5, sometimes $6. Most of this pays for the gasoline. You can sit in the back of the cab like most tourists, or sit in the front like most locals. Doesn't make a difference.

5) The red light zone is going to be a few blocks from the giant arch, but the taxi has to take an indirect route to get there both because of the streety layout and to avoid traffic. It'll be just under 5 minutes without traffic. You'll know you're getting close as you see lots of large neon signs and people milling. If by any chance you see a swarm of cops / federal agents herding people so they can be searched and checked, it's a raid and you're out of luck. Go back to America or anywhere else in Tijuana.

6) If you chose Adelitas, there will be a huge sign saying "Adelitas". Walk straight through the curtained door.

7) Circle the club inside and every time you see a girl you like make a mental note of where they are and keep count. When you make a full circle, there are three possible numbers in your head. If Zero, go to another club like Hong Kong. If One, pick that girl. If More than One, pick one girl for now with the other girls as backup.

8) Don't be afraid, walk up to the girl you choose and say Hello, or hola. Doesn't matter which. She might speak a lot of English, or zero English. Doesn't matter which. Spend 0 to 5 minutes chatting with her, but no more than that or you're likely to be asked to buy yourself a beer and buy her a drink by the waiters at Adelitas. Of course, some people do prefer this but this is an MFM guide. Instead, ask her if she's available to go upstairs with you and she will obviously say yes. If it's your first time with this girl, you might want to confirm the price she charges at this point. Most girls charge $60 or less, but certainly some nice girls charge more like $70 or $80.

9) Follow her out the front door and go next door to the hotel on the left. Go upstairs, pay the nice guy $12. She'll get her purse from that guy, and you guys go to your room to fuck.

10) Pay her and get your clothes off. If you're a virgin, look up a guide on how to fuck. If not, then fuck. You'll generally get a blow job and sex in any position you prefer, but of course some girls are better than others.

11) Shower and use the bathroom in the room if you prefer, and get your clothes back on. If you want to fuck another girl, have your rest and go to step 7. Otherwise, proceed to step 12.

12) Outside Adelitas, say you want a taxi and enter the taxi at the front of the taxi line. Say you want to go to the border, and he'll take you.

13) You'll exit standing next to the freeway, on the Mexican side of the border. Walk paralell to the freeway along the narrow corridor to the immigration checkpoint, about 3 minutes away. I suggest you don't stop for any reason no matter how much some stranger may ask you for money or offer you something. Who cares if some lady opened the door to your taxi for you (which happened today's trip and a previous one) , don't give her money just politely ignore her. Sadly, I also have to mention a small warning that occasionally there have been police shakedowns right at this location very late at night (ex. Past midnight). But just walk calmly and directly to the border station and you'll be fine, especially it's still before midnight with the mass migratio going on.

14) At the immigration check, wait in line until it's your turn. Present your passport or driver's license. They might ask you a simple question, so give them a simple and correct answer and you should be fine to pass. Example quetions are: What are you bringing? (today's question) What's your name? (if they ask a second time, give the same answer) What did you do in Tijuana? (answer: visited the bars) Don't joke, don't be disrespectful, don't make this take any longer than it has to because this is an MFM guide!

15) Find the parking lot you parked at. The one I mentioned is going to be across the freeway, which you can use the pedestrian bridge or walk the long way around to get to. The sign for the bridge says "to Mexico" but that doesn't mean you must go to Mexico if you use it. Either way, the freeway is your best reference if you get disoriented for any reason.

16) Get back on the 5 freeway, being careful not to go 5 South (the wrong way) and cross into Mexico. There's a warning sign for that particular route.

Total cost for the above trip is going to end up about $90-$100, depending on the options you chose.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2221-Tijuana-Reports&p=1226107&viewfull=1#post1226107

[NothingButtens]

Hello yall, thinking about making the journey down to the otherside of the border and taking the challenge, but was curious, (maybe a dumb question) are the girls out and clubs open on Christmas day?

Thanks

[NevadaJones]

Buttens:

Made daytrips on Thursday and Friday.

I was told that the clubs are open every day except Election day.

Just went for SGs and replenish the V supply. Seems like the lines where shorter and less girls on Friday than Thursday. Still a lot more girls I'd like to F than I had time (or stamina) to do.

Man if I lived down here I'd be broke as hell.

Good luck!


Hello, yall, thinking about making the journey down to the otherside of the border and taking the challenge, but was curious, (maybe a dumb question) are the girls out and clubs open on Christmas day?

Thanks

[Dirty Old Guy]

It has been since the early 60's since I've been down to Tijuana. And back then I went down there A LOT! . I doubt if I would recognize it now, so I'd like to ask a couple of questions since I want to take a trip down when I'm in San Diego this coming summer.

Tijuana was a wide open boardertown back when I would go down there. The Blue Fox and the Chicago Club both had donkey shows that you could watch while drinking a cold one and getting a blowjob from one of the working girls working in the bar. And, every other business, on both sides of Revelution Blvd (don't know the correct spelling) was a bar with young hookers. Ahh. The good old days. I think that's when I first turned into a pervert. :)

I know the Fox burned down back in the 70's, but is the Chicago Club still going? Do they still have that kind of "entertainment" going in the bars? Are there good one's and bad ones now? I know from reading the board that it seems like most guy are going down to whorehouses there, so is the bar scene dead there now? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Also, what is the best way to get down? We used to take our cars down there, but I don't think I want to do that now.

Thanks in advance.

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[Trike]

It has been since the early 60's since I've been down to Tijuana. And back then I went down there A LOT! . I doubt if I would recognize it now, so I'd like to ask a couple of questions since I want to take a trip down when I'm in San Diego this coming summer.

Tijuana was a wide open boardertown back when I would go down there. The Blue Fox and the Chicago Club both had donkey shows that you could watch while drinking a cold one and getting a blowjob from one of the working girls working in the bar. And, every other business, on both sides of Revelution Blvd (don't know the correct spelling) was a bar with young hookers. Ahh. The good old days. I think that's when I first turned into a pervert. .

I know the Fox burned down back in the 70's, but is the Chicago Club still going? Do they still have that kind of "entertainment" going in the bars? Are there good one's and bad ones now? I know from reading the board that it seems like most guy are going down to whorehouses there, so is the bar scene dead there now? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Also, what is the best way to get down? We used to take our cars down there, but I don't think I want to do that now.

Thanks in advance.

DirtyYou're in for a big surprise. Revolucion has been cleaned up. I started going down there in 77 and it's a complete different city now. Chicago Club is still open, but no donkey shows. I used to drive across, but now it's such a pain in the behind due to the wait at the border. I walk across now. Hong kong, Adelitas and Chicago club seem to be the busiest in my opinion.

Several years ago, I used to get BBBJ's at a couple stripper clubs. I have not been to a stripper club in a while so, I'm not sure if that action exist now. Good Luck on your trip.

Trike

[PimpinIt]

It has been since the early 60's since I've been down to Tijuana. And back then I went down there A LOT! . I doubt if I would recognize it now, so I'd like to ask a couple of questions since I want to take a trip down when I'm in San Diego this coming summer.

Tijuana was a wide open boardertown back when I would go down there. The Blue Fox and the Chicago Club both had donkey shows that you could watch while drinking a cold one and getting a blowjob from one of the working girls working in the bar. And, every other business, on both sides of Revelution Blvd (don't know the correct spelling) was a bar with young hookers. Ahh. The good old days. I think that's when I first turned into a pervert. .

I know the Fox burned down back in the 70's, but is the Chicago Club still going? Do they still have that kind of "entertainment" going in the bars? Are there good one's and bad ones now? I know from reading the board that it seems like most guy are going down to whorehouses there, so is the bar scene dead there now? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Also, what is the best way to get down? We used to take our cars down there, but I don't think I want to do that now.

Thanks in advance.

DirtyThere are a couple good reports a little ways down on this thread about how to get down there. Short story is drive to 'The Last US Exit' called Camino De La Plaza. Grab a parking lot around there (I like to park behind the Jack in the Box $5 for 8 hours). Walk across the boarder. If you go straight for about 100 yards after the 2nd (last turnstile) a hoard of taxi drivers will be asking you if you need a taxi. Pick one and ask for Adelitas. Once you get dropped off, your main choices are Adelitas, and Hong Kong. Hong Kong is flashy and glamorous and has a rep for hotter girls. Adelitas is more personal. Chicago is still there, but every time I go in I get the feeling that it's kinda dead, even on peak hours on Fri / Sat nights.

There's other clubs like Las Chevellas which caters to very local clientele. Also Tropical and Mermaids, but haven't seen much action there personal. Still worth a quick tour. A couple more that I can't think of the name, but also worth a quick tour. I was in one club kitty-corner from Adelitas, and I thought some of the girls were quality.

All the clubs that I've mentioned are brothels where you go meet the girls, buy them a drink or two if you want, then ask them to go upstairs. At which point you walk outside the club and up the stairs right next to the club entrance up to the hotel about. There's different hotel for every club.

$60 is going rate for half an hour with a girl upstairs. Hotel will run you about $15 for the half. Some girls will charge more for a half, $80. $150, and some of them get it cause they're that hot or they're that good. Don't feel bad to negotiate, but I've never gotten bar girl for less that $60, that is unless she was giving me a freebie. <smiley face Also never gotten bare BBBJ unless it was from one of my 'GF'. Also never gotten bare FS unless it was from one of my 'GF'. <smiley face Wait, no, actually one time I got bare FS from a first time girl.

Street walkers you can get for $20.

I've heard stories about the donkey shows, but always thought they were just urban legend. Is it really what I heard about a donkey fucking a girl?

[PimpinIt]

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[Dirty Old Guy]

Hey guys, thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

No Pimpin, the donkey shows were not legend, they were real. The place I usually went to for them was the Blue Fox. It was on a side street near the beginning of Revolution up towards the border. It was a nasty place, but then what else are you going down there for? :)

The way it worked was the girl, and believe it or not some of them were pretty good looking, would walk up and down the raised (maybe 4 feet high) runway stage and strip and squat on faces (guys would lie on their backs on the stage and eat pussy). She would do this to a few guys just to get the crowd ready for the main event.

While she is doing her thing on the front of the stage, the MC (believe it or not) would be jacking off the donkey to get it hard (how would you like THAT job? :() near the back of the stage where the band was playing.

After she had sat on a few faces, and gotten heated up, she would open a big jar of Vasoline and slap some in and all over her pussy to get it ready for the donkey. As soon as the MC had gotten the donkeys dick hard (and they had some BIG dicks) the MC would lead it over to the girl, who had a small stool that she would lay down on, and the MC would guide the donkey dick into her.

Once the donkey was in the pussy, nature would take over and he would start fucking. It was amazing to watch that big sonofabitch disappear into the girls pussy. I was always amazed that the girls could take as much of it as they did.

It seemed like it never took it long to cum, maybe 2 or 3 minutes, and as soon as he did the MC would lead it off stage and the girl would squat down so everyone could see the cum drip out of her pussy. Everyone would applaud and that was the end of the show. They only had one donkey show per evening, the rest of the shows (every 1/2 hour or so) were strippers who did the squat thing, or brought some guy from the audience up on stage for a blowjob or to fuck.

After the donkey show, everyone would either go back to drinking, or pick one of the girls in the bar and go upstairs to the tiny bedrooms to go fuck.

I started going down there in 1962 when I was in my early teens (as long as you were big enough to climb up on a barstool, they would server you a cervesa). It was a wild, wild wide open town back then. You could do the bar scene, go to some of the whorehouses or get a blowjob on the street. From what you said, it sounds like we'll never see that kind of stuff down there again, but for any of you guys who are old enough to have gone down there back then I'm sure you remember all the hardcore stuff that went on down there then. And for you young whippersnappers who were born too late. Eat your hearts out. :)


There are a couple good reports a little ways down on this thread about how to get down there. Short story is drive to 'The Last US Exit' called Camino De La Plaza. Grab a parking lot around there (I like to park behind the Jack in the Box $5 for 8 hours). Walk across the boarder. If you go straight for about 100 yards after the 2nd (last turnstile) a hoard of taxi drivers will be asking you if you need a taxi. Pick one and ask for Adelitas. Once you get dropped off, your main choices are Adelitas, and Hong Kong. Hong Kong is flashy and glamorous and has a rep for hotter girls. Adelitas is more personal. Chicago is still there, but every time I go in I get the feeling that it's kinda dead, even on peak hours on Fri / Sat nights.

There's other clubs like Las Chevellas which caters to very local clientele. Also Tropical and Mermaids, but haven't seen much action there personal. Still worth a quick tour. A couple more that I can't think of the name, but also worth a quick tour. I was in one club kitty-corner from Adelitas, and I thought some of the girls were quality.

All the clubs that I've mentioned are brothels where you go meet the girls, buy them a drink or two if you want, then ask them to go upstairs. At which point you walk outside the club and up the stairs right next to the club entrance up to the hotel about. There's different hotel for every club.

$60 is going rate for half an hour with a girl upstairs. Hotel will run you about $15 for the half. Some girls will charge more for a half, $80. $150, and some of them get it cause they're that hot or they're that good. Don't feel bad to negotiate, but I've never gotten bar girl for less that $60, that is unless she was giving me a freebie. <smiley face Also never gotten bare BBBJ unless it was from one of my 'GF'. Also never gotten bare FS unless it was from one of my 'GF'. <smiley face Wait, no, actually one time I got bare FS from a first time girl.

Street walkers you can get for $20.

I've heard stories about the donkey shows, but always thought they were just urban legend. Is it really what I heard about a donkey fucking a girl?

[Horsetrader]

Hey guys, thanks for the info. I appreciate it.You already have some good recommendations. The best source for this information is at Internationalsexguide. Info (see link at the front page). Go to the Tijuana link. Start by reading the thread titled something like Brockton O'Tool's Guide (updated 2009). It may not be as good as the 60's, but it is a lot better than anything I've seen in the states.

[Conda]

Hello,

I'm headed to san diego in two weeks for work and haven't been to Tijuana before. Was hoping for some basic answers to a few questions:

1) Can you get back across the border with a passport card?

2) I read in some posts that they sell viagara in pharmacies down there? Is this true? I've messed with it a few times before but would love to be able to buy it there too.

3) I'm planning on going to Tijuana in the afternoon. Is this an ok time to go? I have events to attend in SD at night so the afternoon is my only option.

Thanks a lot for the info.

[Trike]

Hello,

I'm headed to san diego in two weeks for work and haven't been to Tijuana before. Was hoping for some basic answers to a few questions:

1) Can you get back across the border with a passport card?

2) I read in some posts that they sell viagara in pharmacies down there? Is this true? I've messed with it a few times before but would love to be able to buy it there too.

3) I'm planning on going to Tijuana in the afternoon. Is this an ok time to go? I have events to attend in SD at night so the afternoon is my only option.

Thanks a lot for the info.1) I'm sure you can, but not 100% sure. If you don't get an answer here just google. Recently I crossed back into San Diego with just my Cali drivers license. I had forgotten my passport and did not realize this until it was time to go home.

2) Yes, every pharmacy sells it. Couple years ago one pill cost 10 bucks. If you walk across the border you will pass many pharmacy's. The pharmacy people are outside their doors trying to sell you the pill and others such as, Cialis and other enhancers.

3) My past three trips have been in the afternoon. I was there yesterday at 3 pm. I have noticed that in the afternoon I tend to score BBBJ's with CIM fairly easy. Yesterday I scored one within 10 minutes of arriving at Adelitas (this girl was a 7. 5 in my book) and I have not had a repeat girl (60). I asked a couple of street girls, but they declined.

One club I highly recommend for hot girls is Hong Kong, I had not been in this club in at least 10 years. I was blown away how hot these girls were. Remember, this was early afternoon. I want to go there at prime time to see the quality of the girls. I did not ask about any services as I had been drained completely by the Adelitas girl.

I was reading an earlier post about how some girls are getting 100 to 150 to play in this club. I can understand now why they charge this much. Many of these Hong Kong girls are drop dead gorgeous. I saw at least 50+ girls and I would of screwed at least 40 of them. Other were just too freaken tall for me. And no, I was not drunk. I only drink bottled water at these clubs as I don't drink.

Have fun but be careful down there.

Trike

[Bwetfan]

3) I'm planning on going to Tijuana in the afternoon. Is this an ok time to go? I have events to attend in SD at night so the afternoon is my only option.Unless your events are late at night or unless you are going at noon, getting back by early evening might be quite ambitious.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Horse,

Thanks. That O'Tool Guide is very informative.

And, you're right, it doesn't sound like it is anywhere near as good as it was back in the 60's. The only place I've been to that is even close to what it used to be like is Bangkok. You can get ANYTHING you want over there, but it's a hell of a lot more expensive.


You already have some good recommendations. The best source for this information is at Internationalsexguide. Info (see link at the front page). Go to the Tijuana link. Start by reading the thread titled something like Brockton O'Tool's Guide (updated 2009). It may not be as good as the 60's, but it is a lot better than anything I've seen in the states.

[PimpinIt]

1) Passport card yes. My buddy does it all the time.

2) I've seen all the pharmacies advertise.

3) If your on an absolute time critical mission:

San Diego. Boarder: 45 mins.

Parking lot. Taxis: 15 mins.

Taxi ride: 10 mins.

Pick a girl and fuck her for. 5 hr: 45 mins.

Taxi ride back: 10 mins.

Taxi drop off point back to your car: 15mins + 'unknown time to wait for the line'

Drive back to San Diego: 45 mins.

This is prolly the absolute minimum time you can do it in. 'unknown time to wait for the line' should not be too bad if you're coming back early evening, prolly about 15 mins.

You're probably looking at like 3. 5 hours. I've made these estimates purposefully generous in regards of adding a little extra time to account for any minor unforeseen delays.


Hello,

I'm headed to san diego in two weeks for work and haven't been to Tijuana before. Was hoping for some basic answers to a few questions:

1) Can you get back across the border with a passport card?

2) I read in some posts that they sell viagara in pharmacies down there? Is this true? I've messed with it a few times before but would love to be able to buy it there too.

3) I'm planning on going to Tijuana in the afternoon. Is this an ok time to go? I have events to attend in SD at night so the afternoon is my only option.

Thanks a lot for the info.

[PimpinIt]

ALWAYS negotiate down, otherwise prices'll just keep going up. The HIGHEST I've ever paid was. 8 for half an hour, and this girl was prime usda grade A beef.

$150 is more than you pay for a backpage girl in San Diego. It's fucking Mexico for crying out loud, that's why were going down there is for cheap panocha.


1) I'm sure you can, but not 100% sure. If you don't get an answer here just google. Recently I crossed back into San Diego with just my Cali drivers license. I had forgotten my passport and did not realize this until it was time to go home.

2) Yes, every pharmacy sells it. Couple years ago one pill cost 10 bucks. If you walk across the border you will pass many pharmacy's. The pharmacy people are outside their doors trying to sell you the pill and others such as, Cialis and other enhancers.

3) My past three trips have been in the afternoon. I was there yesterday at 3 pm. I have noticed that in the afternoon I tend to score BBBJ's with CIM fairly easy. Yesterday I scored one within 10 minutes of arriving at Adelitas (this girl was a 7. 5 in my book) and I have not had a repeat girl (60). I asked a couple of street girls, but they declined.

One club I highly recommend for hot girls is Hong Kong, I had not been in this club in at least 10 years. I was blown away how hot these girls were. Remember, this was early afternoon. I want to go there at prime time to see the quality of the girls. I did not ask about any services as I had been drained completely by the Adelitas girl.

I was reading an earlier post about how some girls are getting 100 to 150 to play in this club. I can understand now why they charge this much. Many of these Hong Kong girls are drop dead gorgeous. I saw at least 50+ girls and I would of screwed at least 40 of them. Other were just too freaken tall for me. And no, I was not drunk. I only drink bottled water at these clubs as I don't drink.

Have fun but be careful down there.

Trike

[PimpinIt]

Just dropped off my Tijuana 'GF' after a night of valentines day celebration fucking. Was waiting at the linea, and this little latina cut in front of me. Started chatting, says she coming to sd to make some money. She in my car right now. I going to take her to my place and bang her. I update how it goes.

[HeadTurner]

Just dropped off my Tijuana 'GF' after a night of valentines day celebration fucking. Was waiting at the linea, and this little latina cut in front of me. Started chatting, says she coming to sd to make some money. She in my car right now. I going to take her to my place and bang her. I update how it goes.If you wake up in a bathtub full of ice, call 911.

[Trike]

If you wake up in a bathtub full of ice, call 911.I'm so curious, have you actually read a news article or know someone that this happened to in real life? Such as, woke up in a tub full of ice? If not, here is a web site you might be interested in. No flame here just passing info and asking.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/robbery/kidney.asp

Trike

[Trike]

Just got home from a trip down south. Man that border wait sucks. The past two trips I have driven across and drive up to Otay to cross back north. The wait is much shorter than SY, but still a pain.

Quit surprisingly, lots of hot alley girls today. I found an 18 year old hottie for 20. Her terms: no BBBJ, CBJ with two positions only. I was able to sneak in a third. She was so cute I had to have her. This girl reminded me of a Pinay girl such as, small, young and sexy.

After her I went to Hong Kong and saw so many hot girls. The one I wanted Cheryl little body builder girl wanted 90 for cfs with CBJ. I passed, she would not lower her price or do a BBBJ so, I just took her upstairs for a $20 five minute lap dance. Dam, this girl is such a little hard body with great firm tits.

I then went to Adelitas where I scored a BBBJ with CIM for 50. It happened to be the sister of the girl I had two trips ago. I was in the club a total of 10 minutes. This girl's attitude was a ten and her looks were a 7. 5.

BP is so expensive or at least this is the luck I've had that even though it's a pain to go down south it is worth it to me, at least for now.

[PimpinIt]

Just dropped off my Tijuana 'GF' after a night of valentines day celebration fucking. Was waiting at the linea, and this little latina cut in front of me. Started chatting, says she coming to sd to make some money. She in my car right now. I going to take her to my place and bang her. I update how it goes.Well, this update is a little delayed, but I did NOT end up waking up in a bathtub full of ice <smiley face

So this girl cut in front of me at the linea as I was waiting to come back after a night I spent with my Tijuana GF. All of a sudden I became aware that the person in front of me was not the same person as had been in front of me 5 minutes before. I realized that she was pretty cute, and I decided she needed a good fucking as punishment for cutting me in line. When she turned around to look at me, I gave her a good eye fucking, and moved in.

We started chatting, turned out she was going across the boarder cause she was planning to beg for cash state-side. I told her I could probably help her out with a little cash and if she needed a ride somewhere.

Mid-way through the car ride to my house, I had my hand down her blouse fondling her tits, and my cock was whipped out being stroked by her. Once I got her inside my house, I told her 'Once you get to my room, you've got 20 seconds to get fully naked'. And I made sure it happened too <smiley face

She ended up sucking me off for a good long time. Then I fucked her. Then she stroked me off. All in all, we were going at it for about 4. 5 hrs, and I dropped her. 4 (not a typo, that's. 4) , plus a KFC dinner.

I'll be calling her again.

[NotSlowingAt57]

Did anyone else see the Adelita's ads that were running this past weekend on NBC Sports Network? I saw multiple spots running during coverage of the Paris-Nice bike race. Since they are a recurring subject of "adventures" in this forum, I hope Jackson doesn't mind to me posting the URL from their ads: www.adelitas.com.mx

[NotSlowingAt57]

Correct link is: http://www.adelita.com.mx/


Did anyone else see the Adelita's ads that were running this past weekend on NBC Sports Network? I saw multiple spots running during coverage of the Paris-Nice bike race. Since they are a recurring subject of "adventures" in this forum, I hope Jackson doesn't mind to me posting the URL from their ads:

www.adelitas.com.mx

[Dirty Old Guy]

I just looked at Adelita's website. Are all (whatever is left) of the bars in Tijuana like this now? WOW Things sure have changed since I was last there in the late 60's. This place looks like some of the clubs up here in the states! Fancy stuff. When I went down there (pretty regularly) all the bars were nasty, dirty, with dim lights and watered down drinks. The only reason you went in was for the sex. Back then all the dancers were naked, and half the bgirls walking around just wore panties. See my post #219 for some details of the raunchiest bar in Tijuana back then, The Blue Fox. Mmmm. The good old days. :D


Correct link is:

http://www.adelita.com.mx/

[The Camel]

I just looked at Adelita's website. Are all (whatever is left) of the bars in Tijuana like this now? WOW Things sure have changed since I was last there in the late 60's. This place looks like some of the clubs up here in the states! Fancy stuff. When I went down there (pretty regularly) all the bars were nasty, dirty, with dim lights and watered down drinks. The only reason you went in was for the sex. Back then all the dancers were naked, and half the bgirls walking around just wore panties. See my post #219 for some details of the raunchiest bar in Tijuana back then, The Blue Fox. Mmmm. The good old days. :DYes it's true. The 3 largest clubs along La Coahuila, Adelita Bar, Las Chaveles, and Hong Kong have morphed into contemporary high glitz high tech multi-level clubs. Hong Kong set the bar extremely high a few years ago and Adelita lost it's former supremacy and is just trying to keep up. It isn't my preference. I preferred the old border town red light Mexican flavor. This was inevitable after the internet opened up the pleasures of the zona norte to gringos in the late 90's. Previously the gringos mostly stuck to the Revolucion district. So the makeover is all to capture the gringo dollar and to a degree to make these fun places for hot chicas to migrate to from the south and be comfortable working in. In many ways Tijuana is better now than ever, but it has lost the old exotic flavors. However, aside from these 3 bars, there are plenty of vintage down and dirty joints left throughout the zona norte. Very few gringos ever walk into these places, but there is hidden treasure to be mined in them.

[SgtPerv]

Do not forget about Chicago Club. Hasn't changed much but was once in the top three.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Camel, I don't know about you but I liked the dirty, nasty places. They were my fav's! :D

And, Sarge, I definitly remember the Chicago Club. That's the one you entered at kind of a corner and walked down the stairs, right? I don't remember any donkey shows there (like the Blue Fox) , but I sure remember lots of fucking and sucking up on the stage for "showtime". What were your top 3?


Yes it's true. The 3 largest clubs along La Coahuila, Adelita Bar, Las Chaveles, and Hong Kong have morphed into contemporary high glitz high tech multi-level clubs. Hong Kong set the bar extremely high a few years ago and Adelita lost it's former supremacy and is just trying to keep up. It isn't my preference. I preferred the old border town red light Mexican flavor. This was inevitable after the internet opened up the pleasures of the zona norte to gringos in the late 90's. Previously the gringos mostly stuck to the Revolucion district. So the makeover is all to capture the gringo dollar and to a degree to make these fun places for hot chicas to migrate to from the south and be comfortable working in. In many ways Tijuana is better now than ever, but it has lost the old exotic flavors. However, aside from these 3 bars, there are plenty of vintage down and dirty joints left throughout the zona norte. Very few gringos ever walk into these places, but there is hidden treasure to be mined in them.

[The Camel]

Do not forget about Chicago Club. Hasn't changed much but was once in the top three.Chicago was actually the first of the clubs to remodel itself into something appealing to the gringo crowd and especially the asian crowd. It is still a nice club but hasn't kept up with the others, but sadly it has become irrelevant in any discussion of contemporary Tijuana because it is and has been a ghost town for several years. Getting more and more deserted just when it seemed it couldn't get any more deserted. No chicas, no customers. Having said that, it is still worth a visit because the few chicas they have around are nice, the vibe once you hook up with them is a million times better than super hustle Adelita and Hong Kong, and the service is going to be better generally than in the other gringo clubs (though Hong Kong is still pretty good in the service dept.). We are literally talking about maybe half a dozen chicas at any given time (maybe more daytime, I don't know). Some of them just use the place to arrange outdates with regular clients. But walk in, have a beer and you might end up quite surprised to find a hot friendly chica.

The place can't possibly have made a profit for years. So one can only imagine how it possibly continues to be in operation. It was the number one club for the hottest chicas when I discovered the zona in the mid-90's - actually just an unbelievable array of beautiful young women in cocktail dresses lining the bar and the walls and on the dance floor all dancing together to advertise their presence and their hotness. In those years, Adelita had dozens of older less attractive women as they were still concentrating on appealing to the locals crowd with a lower budget. Chicago remained my favorite gringo club over the years but ultimately I prefer the locals dives that don't cater to gringos. I hope this club will find a route back to its former glory, but for now as far as most regular Tijuana mongers are concerned, it doesn't exist.

[Rippa]

Chicago was actually the first of the clubs to remodel itself into something appealing to the gringo crowd and especially the asian crowd. It is still a nice club but hasn't kept up with the others, but sadly it has become irrelevant in any discussion of contemporary Tijuana because it is and has been a ghost town for several years. Getting more and more deserted just when it seemed it couldn't get any more deserted. No chicas, no customers. Having said that, it is still worth a visit because the few chicas they have around are nice, the vibe once you hook up with them is a million times better than super hustle Adelita and Hong Kong, and the service is going to be better generally than in the other gringo clubs (though Hong Kong is still pretty good in the service dept.). We are literally talking about maybe half a dozen chicas at any given time (maybe more daytime, I don't know). Some of them just use the place to arrange outdates with regular clients. But walk in, have a beer and you might end up quite surprised to find a hot friendly chica.

The place can't possibly have made a profit for years. So one can only imagine how it possibly continues to be in operation. It was the number one club for the hottest chicas when I discovered the zona in the mid-90's. Actually just an unbelievable array of beautiful young women in cocktail dresses lining the bar and the walls and on the dance floor all dancing together to advertise their presence and their hotness. In those years, Adelita had dozens of older less attractive women as they were still concentrating on appealing to the locals crowd with a lower budget. Chicago remained my favorite gringo club over the years but ultimately I prefer the locals dives that don't cater to gringos. I hope this club will find a route back to its former glory, but for now as far as most regular Tijuana mongers are concerned, it doesn't exist.Thanks for the history lesson, Camel. It's good to know some of the background on a place like La Zona. Based on what I'd read so much about the Chicago Club here on this forum, I had to stop by on my recent week long tour of Tijuana a while back. Actually, I stopped by a couple of times, but could only make it during the early afternoon. It didn't appear to open until at least noon and was empty every time I checked in. No chicas. I did hit several of the little dive bars in the zone, as well as the current 'biggies', HK, AB, the Trop and Chaveles. Enjoyed them all, and sessioned from each of those four. Would love to have seen 'La Chicago' in its day.

[The Camel]

Thanks for the history lesson, Camel. It's good to know some of the background on a place like La Zona. Based on what I'd read so much about the Chicago Club here on this forum, I had to stop by on my recent week long tour of Tijuana a while back. Actually, I stopped by a couple of times, but could only make it during the early afternoon. It didn't appear to open until at least noon and was empty every time I checked in. No chicas. I did hit several of the little dive bars in the zone, as well as the current 'biggies', HK, AB, the Trop and Chaveles. Enjoyed them all, and sessioned from each of those four. Would love to have seen 'La Chicago' in its day.OK then, happy to reminisce a little more and I have a book inside me about Chicago and several about Tijuana overall. But I envy guys like Dirty Old Guy who prowled Tijuana before the gringos came en masse, and before the PAN party controlled the municipal government more often than not. The old ruling PRI party was anything goes and the conservative PAN has been unfriendly to the so-called zones of tolerance. Right now PRI is back in power in Tijuana which resulted in the bars going back to all night fiestas after the PAN had imposed shutdowns by 3AM which meant the bars were getting cleared out and chairs being put on tables by 2:30. But Tijuana as a 24 hour town is back.

When I discovered Chicago it was dominated by "whales" from asia and asian american customers. Caucasian gringos started coming in but always very few Mexicanos. The music was disco, rock, and latino pop, but never the latino dance music featured in the other bars (cumbia, salsa, ranchero, merengue). The "Your tip is my salary" sign in the men's room was in 5 languages. The first three Asiatic languages, then spanish, then english! I don't want to say the chicas were exactly trained, but the clear culture of the club was to appeal to the asian clientele which meant the girls were not supposed to be openly aggressive or pinch your ass or grab your package as you walked by as the Adelita girls would. In fact, they were pretty much beautiful emotionless stoic mannequins. Newbie gringos were actually intimidated as many were in a regular singles bar meet market. The girls were beautiful and didn't seem easy like they did at the other bars. Of course once you made eye contact and demonstrated interest you got a warm smile in return. The game was to have a waiter invite the chica to your table. Once she was there, she was your happy fiance. The stoicism washed away the instant you said "hola, mucho gusto" and bought her a drink.

So Chicago was unique in its quality and presentation. But amazingly that worked against it as the monger mass apparently preferred to have chicas attacking them the minute they walked inside in bars like Adelita.

The original Hong Kong opened in the late 90's and its name and style was an open challenge to Chicago's courting of asian and asian american clientele. And they stole many of the celebrity Chicago chicas of the time. Chicago held its ground as a dominant club into the early 2000's, but Hong Kong was incredibly creative and aggressive and just ran over the competition like a Monster Truck by around 2009. In the meantime, Chicago withered and passed into an ongoing coma.

I didn't mention Tropical. It has long been one of my favorite places where I consistently get the best service from adorable young 19 year olds fresh off the bus from Sinaloa, but physically it is still a locals oriented dump which most gringo traffic moves away from after a quick look. Plenty of gringos and especially asian americans in there, but mostly, its the same group of hardcore regulars who got comfortable here many years ago.

[Trike]

Chicago was actually the first of the clubs to remodel itself into something appealing to the gringo crowd and especially the asian crowd. It is still a nice club but hasn't kept up with the others, but sadly it has become irrelevant in any discussion of contemporary Tijuana because it is and has been a ghost town for several years. Getting more and more deserted just when it seemed it couldn't get any more deserted. No chicas, no customers. Having said that, it is still worth a visit because the few chicas they have around are nice, the vibe once you hook up with them is a million times better than super hustle Adelita and Hong Kong, and the service is going to be better generally than in the other gringo clubs (though Hong Kong is still pretty good in the service dept.). We are literally talking about maybe half a dozen chicas at any given time (maybe more daytime, I don't know). Some of them just use the place to arrange outdates with regular clients. But walk in, have a beer and you might end up quite surprised to find a hot friendly chica.

The place can't possibly have made a profit for years. So one can only imagine how it possibly continues to be in operation. It was the number one club for the hottest chicas when I discovered the zona in the mid-90's. Actually just an unbelievable array of beautiful young women in cocktail dresses lining the bar and the walls and on the dance floor all dancing together to advertise their presence and their hotness. In those years, Adelita had dozens of older less attractive women as they were still concentrating on appealing to the locals crowd with a lower budget. Chicago remained my favorite gringo club over the years but ultimately I prefer the locals dives that don't cater to gringos. I hope this club will find a route back to its former glory, but for now as far as most regular Tijuana mongers are concerned, it doesn't exist.My experience with Chicago club has been that it's dead during the day and has a small crowd after 9PM. I make it a habit to have a drink or two in CC when I'm in Tijuana during the night as I have pulled a few gems from this club. I have also wondered how this club seems to stay afloat.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Camel,

Back in the early 60's, when I was going down to Tijuana, I don't know what political party was in charge and didn't really care. It was a 24/7 town back then and most of the patron's of all the bars on Revolucion were sailors and Marines out on liberty.

I don't remember seeing any asians down there then, but then that wasn't what I was looking for. :D Back then every other store front, on both sides of the street from the northern-most beginning of the Blvd., all the way down to the Jai Lai Palace, was a bar. And with the exception of Mikes Bar, which was for drinking only, no women there, every one of them had hookers working in them. And it seemed like ALL of them were young and about 90% of them were good looking.

As soon as you would walk into any of them, you would be attacked by every working girl there. They would come up and rub themselves on you and grab your crotch. The one's that didn't get you at the door would wait until you sat down before coming over to you and doing the same thing. If you were smart, you never bought a girl a drink because they always ordered,"champagne", which was nothing more than Canada Dry and cost you ten bucks for a glass. You just picked out the one you wanted and went to one of the backrooms. And, before any of the fun stuff would start, your choice would wash off your dick with a wet towel from a pan of water that was standard equipment for every room in the house.

From what I've read here on some of the previous posts, inflation has really fucked up the price of pussy. Back then, short time was $20.00 and a BJ was $15.00. Oh well.... :(


OK then, happy to reminisce a little more and I have a book inside me about Chicago and several about Tijuana overall. But I envy guys like Dirty Old Guy who prowled Tijuana before the gringos came en masse, and before the PAN party controlled the municipal government more often than not. The old ruling PRI party was anything goes and the conservative PAN has been unfriendly to the so-called zones of tolerance. Right now PRI is back in power in Tijuana which resulted in the bars going back to all night fiestas after the PAN had imposed shutdowns by 3AM which meant the bars were getting cleared out and chairs being put on tables by 2:30. But Tijuana as a 24 hour town is back.

When I discovered Chicago it was dominated by "whales" from asia and asian american customers. Caucasian gringos started coming in but always very few Mexicanos. The music was disco, rock, and latino pop, but never the latino dance music featured in the other bars (cumbia, salsa, ranchero, merengue). The "Your tip is my salary" sign in the men's room was in 5 languages. The first three Asiatic languages, then spanish, then english! I don't want to say the chicas were exactly trained, but the clear culture of the club was to appeal to the asian clientele which meant the girls were not supposed to be openly aggressive or pinch your ass or grab your package as you walked by as the Adelita girls would. In fact, they were pretty much beautiful emotionless stoic mannequins. Newbie gringos were actually intimidated as many were in a regular singles bar meet market. The girls were beautiful and didn't seem easy like they did at the other bars. Of course once you made eye contact and demonstrated interest you got a warm smile in return. The game was to have a waiter invite the chica to your table. Once she was there, she was your happy fiance. The stoicism washed away the instant you said "hola, mucho gusto" and bought her a drink.

So Chicago was unique in its quality and presentation. But amazingly that worked against it as the monger mass apparently preferred to have chicas attacking them the minute they walked inside in bars like Adelita.

The original Hong Kong opened in the late 90's and its name and style was an open challenge to Chicago's courting of asian and asian american clientele. And they stole many of the celebrity Chicago chicas of the time. Chicago held its ground as a dominant club into the early 2000's, but Hong Kong was incredibly creative and aggressive and just ran over the competition like a Monster Truck by around 2009. In the meantime, Chicago withered and passed into an ongoing coma.

I didn't mention Tropical. It has long been one of my favorite places where I consistently get the best service from adorable young 19 year olds fresh off the bus from Sinaloa, but physically it is still a locals oriented dump which most gringo traffic moves away from after a quick look. Plenty of gringos and especially asian americans in there, but mostly, its the same group of hardcore regulars who got comfortable here many years ago.

[The Tall Man]

Camel,

Back in the early 60's, when I was going down to Tijuana, I don't know what political party was in charge and didn't really care. It was a 24/7 town back then and most of the patron's of all the bars on Revolucion were sailors and Marines out on liberty.

I don't remember seeing any asians down there then, but then that wasn't what I was looking for. Back then every other store front, on both sides of the street from the northern-most beginning of the Blvd, all the way down to the Jai Lai Palace, was a bar. And with the exception of Mikes Bar, which was for drinking only, no women there, every one of them had hookers working in them. And it seemed like ALL of them were young and about 90% of them were good looking.

As soon as you would walk into any of them, you would be attacked by every working girl there. They would come up and rub themselves on you and grab your crotch. The one's that didn't get you at the door would wait until you sat down before coming over to you and doing the same thing. If you were smart, you never bought a girl a drink because they always ordered,"champagne", which was nothing more than Canada Dry and cost you ten bucks for a glass. You just picked out the one you wanted and went to one of the backrooms. And, before any of the fun stuff would start, your choice would wash off your dick with a wet towel from a pan of water that was standard equipment for every room in the house.

From what I've read here on some of the previous posts, inflation has really fucked up the price of pussy. Back then, short time was $20. 00 and a BJ was $15. 00. Oh well. .WOW, great trip down memory lane! My first experience in a Tijuana hooker bar was about 1997 or 98.

The Tall Man

[Conda]

Reporting back from the Tijuana trip:

We went to the border via the trolley, took the short walk to the border and crossed. Immediately got into a yellow cab for 6 bucks got to adelitas. About five women in there who were above a 7 or 8. The rest probably 6's. Took one upstairs for BBBJ, CFS 50 bucks for half hour. Left happy, waited an hour to cross back and that was that. I'll repeat.


1) Passport card yes. My buddy does it all the time.

2) I've seen all the pharmacies advertise.

3) If your on an absolute time critical mission:

San Diego. Boarder: 45 mins.

Parking lot. Taxis: 15 mins.

Taxi ride: 10 mins.

Pick a girl and fuck her for. 5 hr: 45 mins.

Taxi ride back: 10 mins.

Taxi drop off point back to your car: 15mins + 'unknown time to wait for the line'

Drive back to San Diego: 45 mins.

This is prolly the absolute minimum time you can do it in. 'unknown time to wait for the line' should not be too bad if you're coming back early evening, prolly about 15 mins.

You're probably looking at like 3. 5 hours. I've made these estimates purposefully generous in regards of adding a little extra time to account for any minor unforeseen delays.

[Dirty Old Guy]

Tall,

You didn't go down to Tijuana until the late 90's?!?! You must be a young whippersnapper. :D


WOW, great trip down memory lane! My first experience in a Tijuana hooker bar was about 1997 or 98.

The Tall Man

[SgtPerv]

My first trip wasn't until around 2000 but I live in the Midwest. Got addicted quick. Used to be extended stays a couple times a summer but now I plan on once a year for 3-4 days.

[NashSteve25]

My first visit was in mid 2000's, heard a lot from a co worker who use to visit a lot and told us to go to CC. They said most of the guys were asian and that is who they cater to. My first visit was amazing, ton's of girls that you can just pick up and fuck, it was like an adult version of disneyland. Later on, when I came back, CC was begining to die out and AB was where all the girls went to. I went there plenty of times during the late 2000's until recently, it appears HK has taken over as the top dog on the strip.

The memories of that place is awsome, drinking chating with your buds and spending time with the chicas freely without the fear of LE.

[SgtPerv]

Hard to believe that most mongers from SD area have not dreamt of going to Tijuana since their teens. I went as soon as the military for me close before Tijuana I enjoyed trips across Laredo Texas to boystown. Now there was a place out of a western movie.

[josenoway]

Hey guys, I've got a buddy coming into town this weekend and he wants to visit Tijuana on Sunday night before his flight out on Monday afternoon. The thing is he won't get out of his engagement on Sunday until late, so if we went, we wouldn't arrive until like 2 or 3am. I haven't been in a while with all the drama going on down there, but I do remember they put a curfew in effect at one point? Is that still true? Are we SOL with this last minute plan of ours? We have no problems coming back whenever on Monday since I took a sick day and his flight isn't until late afternoon.

Thanks for any words of wisdom.

[SgtPerv]

I would get packed and a good night of sleep. Hit the zona Monday around brunch, eat tacos while looking for fresher chicas.