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JTerry26
02-11-19, 19:27
Over the years, I had a few I would see every week, 2-3 times a week for a year or two.

I would give them money after each visit.

They knew they would have X amount and could count on those meets each week.

For me, I knew Tuesday, Friday and Sunday, I was getting what I wanted.With the normal caveat that pretty new to this but what you're describing above is exactly what I want. I don't care what you call it but given my work schedule and need to be on the down low, I would love a regular date. I sort of do that now (one of the women I see I see every week) but each week it's an effort to get into contact and arrange something. I'd be happy to stipend someone to get that regularity.

SugarBandit
02-11-19, 20:13
With the normal caveat that pretty new to this but what you're describing above is exactly what I want. I don't care what you call it but given my work schedule and need to be on the down low, I would love a regular date. I sort of do that now (one of the women I see I see every week) but each week it's an effort to get into contact and arrange something. I'd be happy to stipend someone to get that regularity.One lasted three years. Every Saturday from noon to 2 am, except when I went away.

Another two lasted 1 year and half each.

Frasier69
02-12-19, 00:36
Personally, I have never understood the concept of Sugar Daddy and Sugar Baby. How does the male benefit in the Sugar Daddy, Sugar Baby relationship? There is no legal, binding contract. It is the female who sets the rules, make the demands and regulates the terms. Other than those cases where both parties agree to a non-sexual relationship, how does the Sugar baby / Sugar Daddy relationship differ from the monger / escort relationship?In my experience the benefit of a SD / SB arrangement is consistent / reliability meetings and lower rates for the time spent together. For me it felt more like a FWB arrangement of sorts where I provided an allowance. But a lot of that depends on the SB. I found it best when establishing arrangements with those that are new to it all and those that are just looking for one SD to see. Seeing a pro most of the time is too formal and down to business. I never felt that way when I was with a SB. As for the rules, that depends on the SD. If done right you set the terms / rules, they either accept them or not. The SD has all the leverage since he can just find someone else. After the arrangement ends the door is always open for you to see them again. Often they'll contact you when they're in need.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 01:21
It's a sign of Borderline Personality Disorder, something developed from abuse, as is drug use, and prostitution.

It's all a syndrome where the person continues to be their own abuser, after the childhood stuff is over, by making themselves look ugly, feel disgusting, etc. It's why these girls look the way they do, die, and so forth.

Read about it.I'm not sure about your conclusions. My baby sister got a rose tattooed on her breast after seeing a movie back in the seventies. She's pretty otherwise straight-laced. A lot of singers, actors, artist, models and successful people have tattoos. I don't know why, but they do.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 01:28
...I consider myself a sampler of the entire buffet from SW to high end escort. A SB to me is simply a provider who can be counted on to be regularly available when scheduled for the time frame and activities I desire who meets my criteria for a very satisfactory and repeatable experience.Customize it however you want, it's still pay to play. How often you do it, no matter the time frame, it's pay to play. Same as it's always been, same as it always will be.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 01:34
Over the years, I had a few I would see every week, 2-3 times a week for a year or two.

I would give them money after each visit.

They knew they would have X amount and could count on those meets each week.

For me, I knew Tuesday, Friday and Sunday, I was getting what I wanted.Whatever floats your boat. I get that. But, in the end, it's all the same. She sees you on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. Monday, Wednesday and Saturday she working the streets or some other poor sap. (Nothing personal).

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 01:40
Cooky,

He who holds the purse strings makes the final decision!

If a monger is too eager he will lose....That's how it works in most business transactions. A hard dick complicates things. Add a pretty face, nice body, the sweet smell of freshly scented pussy and all bets are off. She's in charge. We've all been there.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 01:49
The girl gets what she wants- money.

The guy gets what he wants- sex.

It's not complicated LOL. Girls probably use the term "sb" because it makes them feel less like a ***** and more like some classy business woman LOL. To me there's no difference at all. As long as both parties involved are ok with their arrangement more power to them I guess.I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 02:01
There are different ways to interact with women and being a sugar daddy is just one type of interaction. Women don't care how guys interact with them so as long as they get something out of the interaction.

The difference in how males chose to interact with a woman is based on the type of personality a man has and who he is as a person. A sugar daddy is usually an ego driven, outgoing, charismatic individual who likes to play the role of a fatherly / authority figure. Sex isn't the primary goal of being a sugar daddy. The primary motivation of a sugar daddy is to be acknowledged and praised by females for his role of providing and taking care of them.

Older men also fall into the role of being a sugar daddy when they can no longer preform sexually. They use money as a substitute for being sexually impotent.

Regardless, just know that most women are chameleons. One day they are a sugar baby doing expensive dinner dates with no sex, the next week they're on the corner at 3 AM turning tricks for 20, then the very next day they're on a date with a unsuspecting gentleman telling him she's a virgin and how she's such a great catch to marry.I'm sorry, but, I cannot agree with most of your conclusions.

For one thing, nothing substitutes for sexual potency. Secondly, as a ego driven, outgoing, charismatic individual who doesn't want to be anyone's fatherly authority figure, I could never be referred to as anybody's sugar daddy.

😀.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 02:04
The SB you are talking about used to be a stripper at the BP. The story isn't so simple as non-compliance. Here is the report: https://www.thedailybeast.com/stripper-convicted-or-not-guilty-for-killing-sugar-daddy-pharma-exec. This SB texted to her SD right before she offed him: "I'll gut you like I'm field dressing a deer!" That's hard core! My ass puckeredKeep this in mind the next time you’re reading a review where some guy is complaining about the dangers involved with seeking woman who work the Avenues.

Damn!

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 02:18
In my experience the benefit of a SD / SB arrangement is consistent / reliability meetings and lower rates for the time spent together. For me it felt more like a FWB arrangement of sorts where I provided an allowance. But a lot of that depends on the SB. I found it best when establishing arrangements with those that are new to it all and those that are just looking for one SD to see. Seeing a pro most of the time is too formal and down to business. I never felt that way when I was with a SB. As for the rules, that depends on the SD. If done right you set the terms / rules, they either accept them or not. The SD has all the leverage since he can just find someone else. After the arrangement ends the door is always open for you to see them again. Often they'll contact you when they're in need.I've had some pretty consistent relationships with a few of the girls I've met. I saw them when I wanted and I saw someone else when I wanted. I moved on when I got bored or things got creepy. It's whatever floats your boat.

One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.

CookyJar.

SugarBandit
02-12-19, 06:46
Whatever floats your boat. I get that. But, in the end, it's all the same. She sees you on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. Monday, Wednesday and Saturday she working the streets or some other poor sap. (Nothing personal).

CookyJar.One had three others besides me and another was out there after I dropped her off. I wanted a consistant experience. I was never their only trick.

SugarBandit
02-12-19, 06:48
I've had some pretty consistent relationships with a few of the girls I've met. I saw them when I wanted and I saw someone else when I wanted. I moved on when I got bored or things got creepy. It's whatever floats your boat.

One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.

CookyJar.I been giving out my number since I got my first cell in 1997. Never any issues.

SugarBandit
02-12-19, 07:02
I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.

CookyJar.Not everyone gets the same thing for the same price. Some guys want their girl to swallow everytime. They do swallow but not with every guy they go with.

PartyTimeGuy
02-12-19, 07:58
Customize it however you want, it's still pay to play. How often you do it, no matter the time frame, it's pay to play. Same as it's always been, same as it always will be.

CookyJar.Of course it is pay to play. That's what this website is all about. But there are gradations of the process and we give labels to the girl and / or the experience: SW, UTR, SB, escort, whatever. The labels can mean different things to different people and sometimes the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl. That doesn't mean the labels are invalid and it's all the same thing, even though the same girl can be all of these labels to different guys at different times. It can be about how much you pay and / or how you perceive or want to be perceived paying to play. A true-blue dyed in the wool SD most likely wants to be perceived as a top dog, dining in the best restaurants while the rest of us slobs are scarfing down Big Macs. In reality the same girl a SD calls his SB could be plying her trade on Kensington Ave the next day. She can be his SB and your SW. Are you both wrong or both right? Depends whether one asks him or you.

I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.

PartyTimeGuy
02-12-19, 08:07
One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.


We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.

PartyTimeGuy
02-12-19, 08:42
I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.

CookyJar."Prostitution Food Chain. " I like that!

Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't. I know that when I have fished and do fish in the SB pond I get more gorgeous, sweet college-aged tail than I ever got when I was in college. To me they seemed innocent and brand new to the pay for play biz, which is what I was paying for. Maybe I could have found some of them on the corner the next day and had a pipe cleaning for a Jackson, but I doubt it. It is always possible that any of these SBs could eventually be had at bargain basement prices on the Ave. I have had SWs that were just as fine as any SB. So SW gems are clearly available. But I never had any SBs that were as awful as some of the SWs I have encountered. Like I said. Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't.

DoNotDeevee8
02-12-19, 11:30
I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.

Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.

A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.

Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).

The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.

All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.

The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.

Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.

My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.

Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.

My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.

Good luck and stay safe.

PartyTimeGuy
02-12-19, 11:42
I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.

Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.

A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.

Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).

The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.

All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.

The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.

Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.

My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.

Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.

My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.

Good luck and stay safe.You are absolutely 100% on the money IMHO and based on my experience. Sometimes we want filet mignon and sometimes a greasy burger and every now and then some wild boar. We usually but don't always get the quality we pay for but the little head wants what the little head wants, and sometimes the big head has a great time too.

It's all good my brothers!

CookyJar
02-12-19, 16:34
the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl.
I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?

The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.

PartyTimeGuy
02-12-19, 17:30
It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?

The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time? Looks are one thing. Personality and attitude are another. A few SW gems could fill this bill but certainly not nearly all. I admitted that there were some SWs who might make good SBs. That's how this whole discussion got started in the first place. I suggested that Jordan and Rain could be good examples of this. But let's not pretend that all pussy is the same. That's absurd. It just isn't. And it isn't just some perception or delusion. Some pussy is just worth more than others for a whole host of reasons that only partly have to do with what a girl looks like. Attitude, intelligence, sensuality and personality are just a few of the numerous characteristics that are important parts of the equation. Just because you don't choose to play in a pool of genuine college-aged nubile gorgeous and innocent sweeties doesn't make your choices of SWs on the Ave just the same or better. A few might be close, but they just aren't the same and no quantity of claim by you will make it so. That is not to say that they are lesser or inferior. They are simply choices we make. I like SWs. I like SBs. I like pussy of all varieties and prices. And sometimes you can have a high quality girl for a bargain price. But they are most definitely NOT "all the same. ". If they were all the same I would stick with one good one and not seek variety. But that's another subject called why have a SO? Viva la difference.

Amp Guide
02-12-19, 17:42
I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.

There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.

Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.

SugarBandit
02-12-19, 20:09
If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.

One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.The one paying makes the rules. When I get bored, I move on. There are millions out there for sale. We can choose from 1,000's whereas they take whatever comes their way.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 20:46
I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.
Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation. LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?


A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets. Where have you been? The majority of girls on drugs and working in the sex trades started their habits in the suburbs, or at college. They start off popping pills and smoking pot while partying. Where do you think these girl come from, the ghetto? Ghetto girls know better. It is part of the illusion, that the sugar baby most present. She has to persuade you that she is clean, wholesome and worth the extra money she asking.

Most streetwalkers claim they just need money for the babysitter, food or rent. ROFLMBAO.


Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).
The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.Many of the Sugar babies you've met are just very good actress.

The girls working in the sex trade who are serious and have been working for any length of time are better actress than any of the ones you see in the movies. And, Liars! Jesus! Can these girls lie? Believe what you want, but if you believe sugar babies don't lie I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you.


All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.Take part of that $200 that you were going to spend on a sugar baby and rent a room. Let het take a shower, put on some dollar store make-up and perfume and save yourself a few bucks. Plus! I am willing to bet she will out fuck any novice college sugar baby. Don't forget to wrap that w'rascal.


The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.Who needs that? If I needed to talk to someone I'd talk to my wife or side piece.


Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.Wow! Just think what you could get if you got out of the car, rented a room, an extra $10 and a Big Mac.


My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.Everything is on the menu? I doubt that. Even your better looking streetwalkers think their shit does not stink. But, most Streetwalker will go way farther than the average non-pro. Streetwalker think that most of their clients want what they cannot get at home. True or not, it is the reason streetwalkers work harder. Your average streetwalker wants repeat clients and regulars if they can get them. IMHO, streetwalkers do it better.


Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.
My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.
Good luck and stay safe.Whatever floats you boat. Every guy is a little different.

No offense intended. I am just kidding around. I appreciated your input.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I live for strange. It's a little like being hooked on dope I'm always chasing the better high, looking for the better piece.

PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.

SugarBandit
02-12-19, 22:04
PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.I would like to find her one day soon.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 22:13
Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time? It's all a game. A illusion and part of the tricks they play. They can all do it, if the need arises. They can make you believe that it's the first time, every time.

I am sorry my friend, but I most disagree. Pussy is Pussy. If looks are in the eye of the beholder, then good pussy is in the mind of the fucker.

You stick your dick in her and she's a so, so fuck. Another guy comes along; sticks his dick in the same girl and she's the cat meow. She might be tight to me and loose to you, but in the end, it's the same pussy that we fucked. Plus! On any given day the pussy may seem different from the day before. Sometimes it's you and some days it may be her – the pussy doesn't change, we change. We are the difference, the pussy doesn't change – it's the same.

How many times has this happened to you? You meet a girl, you fuck her and it's great. You come back the next week for some more and you fuck her again, it's the same pussy, but the worse fuck. It's not the pussy that's different; it's all in the mind. Maybe she was in the mood the first time or maybe she likes fucking strange. Her pussy hasn't changed, she has.

I was fucking this girl regularly three or four times a week, for about a month. We worked together. The pussy was great. One day, we're on the job at night and she comes to my office, and we fuck. Worse fuck ever. Afterwards I asked her was there a problem. She said to me, "You're married aren't you. " I said yeah, I thought you knew (Everyone on the job knew). We talked a little. I took her home and spent the night – the good pussy was back. There wasn't anything wrong with the pussy. There was something wrong with her head.

I could give you plenty of examples. Here let me give you another one. There was this girl we were a couple for a few months. Basically she got on my nerves, so we broke up. I really didn't like her. Every once in a while, maybe two or three times a year, she called and come over. We'd fuck and then I wouldn't see her for a while. It didn't cost me anything, she could fuck and that's all we ever did. Maybe a year goes by and out of the blue she calls and asks to come over. We fucked twice that night and again in the morning. We are lying in bed and I am tired of her, waiting for her to get up and leave. She ask me about the night before, had I noticed any difference. She points to a scar and says she has had a hysterectomy. She wants to know if I could tell the difference. I asked her if they had taken out her clitoris. She said no, just her uterus. I said I wasn't using her uterus, I wasn't going that deep. I told her she still had the parts I liked and if it was good for her, it certainly was good to me. After she had gone I thought to myself, what a nut, we'd mostly done anal – she had a great little ass.

Pussy is pussy, Freud knew that. Sex is all in the head, the mind is our strangest sexual tool.

CookyJar.

SugarBandit
02-12-19, 22:21
It's all a game. A illusion and part of the tricks they play. They can all do it, if the need arises. They can make you believe that it's the first time, every time.

I am sorry my friend, but I most disagree. Pussy is Pussy. If looks are in the eye of the beholder, then good pussy is in the mind of the fucker.

You stick your dick in her and she's a so, so fuck. Another guy comes along; sticks his dick in the same girl and she's the cat meow. She might be tight to me and loose to you, but in the end, it's the same pussy that we fucked. Plus! On any given day the pussy may seem different from the day before. Sometimes it's you and some days it may be her the pussy doesn't change, we change. We are the difference, the pussy doesn't change it's the same.

How many times has this happened to you? You meet a girl, you fuck her and it's great. You come back the next week for some more and you fuck her again, it's the same pussy, but the worse fuck. It's not the pussy that's different; it's all in the mind. Maybe she was in the mood the first time or maybe she likes fucking strange. Her pussy hasn't changed, she has.

Its the thrill of the hunt and finding something new who doesn't try to get over. So many times I found that cool one but, its becomes more of the same and then onto the next one.

CookyJar
02-12-19, 23:07
I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.
There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.
Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.Thanks for the input. Come by anytime.

I picked up a girl once, she was young, pretty and so innocence in looks and actions. I drove around the block and for some reason, I changed my mind. We were stopped at a busy intersection. She grabbed my keys out of my ignition and demanded fifty dollars. I grabbed her by the back of her neck; I'm a pretty big guy. A black girl who was standing nearby came over. That young, innocent little white girl turned into a cussing fussing little hood rat. She called me everything, but a child of god. She had the worst mouth that I've ever heard on anybody and I'm a Marine (Once a marine, always a marine). I didn't want to hit the little thing, so I offered the black girl $20 to get my keys out of her other hand.

The black girl retrieved my keys and I gave her the $20. She also remove the little she devil from my car.

A week later, I meet up with this very same little white girl. We don't remember each other. Over time we dated 8 or 9 times. Somewhere during that time, I remembered her from that night. I have some great pictures of her and they are on this site. I won't show them or mention her name, may she rest in peace. I will never forget the lesson she taught me. I'll never let my guard down.

Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college). They weren't too innocent when my kids attended college. Think about it, how innocent can they be if they are fucking you. Trust me; it's all part of the game. Would you give them your hard earned money if they acted butt wild? They are just giving you what you're paying for. Are these the same sweet and innocent little college girls that I see flashing their tits during Mardi Gras or during spring break. Just think, what's the definition of sweet and innocent? Is it fucking old men for money? No! Sweet and innocent little college girls just don't do that. A good girl won't suck your dick or let you butt fuck her. That's what bad girls do.

They act sweet and innocent for your sake.

CookyJar.

NvrStlPhilly
02-13-19, 03:46
Thanks for the input. Come by anyt

I picked up a girl once, she was young, pretty and so innocence in looks and actions. I drove around the block and for some reason, I changed my mind. We were stopped at a busy intersection. She grabbed my keys out of my ignition and demanded fifty dollars. I grabbed her by the back of her neck; I'm a pretty big guy. A black girl who was standing nearby came over. That young, innocent little white girl turned into a cussing fussing little hood rat. She called me everything, but a child of god. She had the worst mouth that I've ever heard on anybody and I'm a Marine (Once a marine, always a marine). I didn't want to hit the little thing, so I offered the black girl $20 to get my keys out of her other hand.

The black girl retrieved my keys and I gave her the $20. She also remove the little she devil from my car.

A week later, I meet up with this very same little white girl. We don't remember each other. Over time we dated 8 or 9 times. Somewhere during that time, I remembered her from that night. I have some great pictures of her and they are on this site. I won't show them or mention her name, may she rest in peace. I will never forget the lesson she taught me. I'll never let my guard down.

Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college)..My keys in the ignition can't be removed unless I am in park so how could she remove your key?

DoNotDeevee8
02-13-19, 09:58
LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?No, what I am saying is a majority of SugarBabies are not on dope or smoking coke. While a majority of SWers are on dope or smoking coke. But of course there are SugarBabies on dope and coke, just like there is an occasional SW who isn't.

And anyone can rob you, but the chances of getting setup change greatly depending on where you are at or who you are with.

I am not disagreeing that the SBs are better actresses than SWs. But guess what, Julia Roberts makes more than my loser sister-in-law who likes to take small parts in community plays.

NvrStlPhilly
02-13-19, 15:09
No, what I am saying is a majority of SugarBabies are not on dope or smoking coke. While a majority of SWers are on dope or smoking coke. But of course there are SugarBabies on dope and coke, just like there is an occasional SW who isn't.

In you are in the life style then major meds will come into play soon. Almost all start with NO CIM, back door or COF. All will resort to the the later sooner or later for the money. It comes with the territory. We are dealing with damaged goods that spoil.

NvrStlPhilly
02-13-19, 15:16
LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?

Where have you been? The majority of girls on drugs and working in the sex trades started their habits in the suburbs, or at college. They start off popping pills and smoking pot while partying. Where do you think these girl come from, the ghetto? Ghetto girls know better. It is part of the illusion, that the sugar baby most present. She has to persuade you that she is clean, wholesome and worth the extra money she asking.

Most streetwalkers claim they just need money for the babysitter, food or rent. ROFLMBAO.

Many of the Sugar babies you've met are just very good actress.

The girls working in the sex trade who are serious and have been working for any length of time are better actress than any of the ones you see in the movies. And, Liars! Jesus! Can these girls lie? Believe what you want, but if you believe sugar babies don't lie I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you.

Take part of that $200 that you were going to spend on a sugar baby and rent a room. Let het take a shower, put on some dollar store make-up and perfume and save yourself a few bucks. Plus! I am willing to bet she will out fuck any novice college sugar baby. Don't forget to wrap that w'rascal.

Who needs that? If I needed to talk to someone I'd talk to my wife or side piece.

Wow! Just think what you could get if you got out of the car, rented a room, an extra $10 and a Big Mac.

Everything is on the menu? I doubt that. Even your better looking streetwalkers think their shit does not stink. But, most Streetwalker will go way farther than the average non-pro. Streetwalker think that most of their clients want what they cannot get at home. True or not, it is the reason streetwalkers work harder. Your average streetwalker wants repeat clients and regulars if they can get them. IMHO, streetwalkers do it better.

Whatever floats you boat. Every guy is a little different.

No offense intended. I am just kidding around. I appreciated your input.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I live for strange. It's a little like being hooked on dope I'm always chasing the better high, looking for the better piece.

PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.Never perceived a real looker in Kensington or even North Philly. In fact I never saw a real true beauty face to face. Been to Delilah's, Hooters; most all Strip clubs and Atlantic City. The only one that marry / obtain true hotties are musicians, Hollywood stars, or billionaires. The common man has no access to the elite beauty. Heck 10 k of photos on any site and not one true beauty. Most are the girl next door.

CookyJar
02-14-19, 02:44
My keys in the ignition can't be removed unless I am in park so how could she remove your key?Wow! You really got me thinking for a minute.

This happened at least ten years ago. It was a early model Ford Explorer. We were at the intersection of Kensington and Summerset. I pulled over in the bus stop area, put the car in park and turned to her to explain that her services wouldn't be needed. I cannot remember if I'd already turned the engine off or if she turned the switch when she grabbed the keys.

Later that night, I thought about it. That wasn't the first time she pulled that stunt. She was quick, deliberate and knew exactly what she was doing.

I first came down to Kensington Avenue in 2006. This must have happened in 2007-2008. The memory fades.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-14-19, 02:50
I didn't know Philadelphia had a thread dedicated to Sugar Babies. I did a little reading last night. Very interesting! Very interesting, indeed. 🤔.

PartyTimeGuy
02-14-19, 10:03
Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college). They weren't too innocent when my kids attended college. Think about it, how innocent can they be if they are fucking you. Trust me; it's all part of the game. Would you give them your hard earned money if they acted butt wild? They are just giving you what you're paying for. Are these the same sweet and innocent little college girls that I see flashing their tits during Mardi Gras or during spring break. Just think, what's the definition of sweet and innocent? Is it fucking old men for money? No! Sweet and innocent little college girls just don't do that. A good girl won't suck your dick or let you butt fuck her. That's what bad girls do.

They act sweet and innocent for your sake.

CookyJar.It may be an act, but IMHO it can be worth the price of admission. I pay to see actresses in the movies all the time. A real live one squealing on top of me and calling me daddy? Just the thought puts a pup tent in my trousers.

PartyTimeGuy
02-14-19, 10:13
I didn't know Philadelphia had a thread dedicated to Sugar Babies. I did a little reading last night. Very interesting! Very interesting, indeed. 🤔.Most of my sugar is down here in Richmond. But my business ventures take me to eastern PA all the time and I sample all sorts of pleasures there as well. I don't know why the Richmond sugar thread seems to be so large and detailed and has a long tradition and history. I would have imagined that there is much more sugar to be had in such a much larger metropolitan area as Philly.

Nevertheless, you should try some real sugar from the bowl sometime CJ. It's a lot pricier than the Ave and maybe as you say, it's just acting, but your perspective on it from real experience in comparison to Kensington Ave SWs would be quite interesting indeed.

PartyTimeGuy
02-14-19, 10:41
It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

CookyJar.I respectfully disagree. Don't get me wrong. I like beautiful women, SWs, SBs, whatever. But, in my own experience I have never run across a SW who was even close to being as good an "actress" as a SB. I have been with literally hundreds of both. Maybe I have not been with the right ones. Maybe the fact that so many of the SWs were nodding off in my car from their last bundle, or Jonesing for the next bundle, or had pussies that smelled like week old fish, or had rashes and pimples and scars and bruises that would defy make-up, or missing or rotten teeth when they smiled, or straggly oily hair, or ragged clothes, or smelly socks, or dirty hands and broken and filthy fingernails, or the sight of the track marks dulled the suspension of my disbelief. Whatever the reason, if I am handing out Oscars for best performance by an actress none of the finalists would ever in a million years include a SW, unless the performance was as a SW. SBs, on the other hand, win Oscars for acting like SBs almost all the time.

BMong1
02-14-19, 15:16
I have Jordan's phone number if anyone wants to trade.

CookyJar
02-15-19, 02:48
… you should try some real sugar from the bowl sometime CJ. It's a lot pricier than the Ave and maybe as you say, it's just acting, but your perspective on it from real experience in comparison to Kensington Ave SWs would be quite interesting indeed.A few years ago I thought about dabbling in the Asian, Massage Parlor action. I read though the Massage Parlor Reports thread and by interacting with the guys who frequent the Asian Parlors; I got a ton of good advice. Unfortunately, I was never able to pull the trigger. After all the reading and with all the suggestions, there seemed to be the hint of a underlying theme running though the thread. At $160 a trip, the process was hit and miss. Sometimes there is a lineup, sometimes there is not, sometimes the provider was old, sometimes she was old by looked young, sometimes the shower was great but the service sucked, sometimes the service was excellent and the shower sucked, Sometimes the service was rushed within the paid for hour, and etc. , etc. , and etc. And! Even when the report was favorable, the girl shown in the Massage Parlor ad and the girl reported on seemed TGTBT. IMHO. All it would cost me to find out was a Buck, sixty. Plus! And, this is a big PLUS. I am black and if I am remembering currectly from my overseas adventures, not all Asians are friendly with Black.

After reading some of the Philly Sugar thread, I have come to a similar conclusion. Time and money is not everything, but it seems like sugar daddies spend / waste a lot of both. $200 to $500 for what? What exactly would I get for, let us say, $300 bucks? Would the $300 be for one date or a month's service? Keep in mind that I sometimes see three, four and maybe 6 different girls a month. Sometimes they are two girl sessions and they are almost always longer than an hour. BBBJ's, CFS, and sometimes (even though I'm not interested) anal is offered. Rent, gas, food and service is acquired for approximately less than $300.

2018 was a slow year; I took the pictures of 25 girls – at $300, that would be $7,500. That seems a bit much, considering that it's all the same thing. LOL.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-15-19, 03:09
I respectfully disagree. Don't get me wrong. I like beautiful women, SWs, SBs, whatever. But, in my own experience I have never run across a SW who was even close to being as good an "actress" as a SB. I have been with literally hundreds of both. Maybe I have not been with the right ones. Maybe the fact that so many of the SWs were nodding off in my car from their last bundle, or Jonesing for the next bundle, or had pussies that smelled like week old fish, or had rashes and pimples and scars and bruises that would defy make-up, or missing or rotten teeth when they smiled, or straggly oily hair, or ragged clothes, or smelly socks, or dirty hands and broken and filthy fingernails, or the sight of the track marks dulled the suspension of my disbelief. Whatever the reason, if I am handing out Oscars for best performance by an actress none of the finalists would ever in a million years include a SW, unless the performance was as a SW. SBs, on the other hand, win Oscars for acting like SBs almost all the time.I respectfully agree.

When I see a streetwalker, a internet provider, an escort, a sugar baby, someone a little down on their luck or any poor sap I think to myself; there but for the grace of god goes a housewife and mother, someone's sister, a nurse, doctor and whatever.


They are all the same.

CookyJar.

SugarBandit
02-15-19, 06:50
Wow! You really got me thinking for a minute.

This happened at least ten years ago. It was a early model Ford Explorer. We were at the intersection of Kensington and Summerset. I pulled over in the bus stop area, put the car in park and turned to her to explain that her services wouldn't be needed. I cannot remember if I'd already turned the engine off or if she turned the switch when she grabbed the keys.

Later that night, I thought about it. That wasn't the first time she pulled that stunt. She was quick, deliberate and knew exactly what she was doing.

I first came down to Kensington Avenue in 2006. This must have happened in 2007-2008. The memory fades.

CookyJar.A girl took my keys once and ever since, I carry a spare set.

PartyTimeGuy
02-15-19, 07:01
A few years ago I thought about dabbling in the Asian, Massage Parlor action. I read though the Massage Parlor Reports thread and by interacting with the guys who frequent the Asian Parlors; I got a ton of good advice. Unfortunately, I was never able to pull the trigger. After all the reading and with all the suggestions, there seemed to be the hint of a underlying theme running though the thread. At $160 a trip, the process was hit and miss. Sometimes there is a lineup, sometimes there is not, sometimes the provider was old, sometimes she was old by looked young, sometimes the shower was great but the service sucked, sometimes the service was excellent and the shower sucked, Sometimes the service was rushed within the paid for hour, and etc. , etc. , and etc. And! Even when the report was favorable, the girl shown in the Massage Parlor ad and the girl reported on seemed TGTBT. IMHO. All it would cost me to find out was a Buck, sixty. Plus! And, this is a big PLUS. I am black and if I am remembering currectly from my overseas adventures, not all Asians are friendly with Black.I hear you on this one. I visited AMPs for quite a while. It can be hit or miss. There were only a few AMPs where I could ever get consistently good service in line with my expectations. One in particular comes to mind, but only because there was a very cute girl there named Kelly who was a gem of a gem and worth every penny of the 160 total I spent there. She was absolutely one of the best pieces of ass I ever had. Unfortunately AMPs tend to change out their girls like I change the oil in my car. Kelly was only there for a few months and then she was gone. I will probably still try AMPs because hope springs eternal. But I seriously doubt I will ever find anything so lovely and totally sexually satisfying in mind, body and spirit as Kelly.


After reading some of the Philly Sugar thread, I have come to a similar conclusion. Time and money is not everything, but it seems like sugar daddies spend / waste a lot of both. $200 to $500 for what? What exactly would I get for, let us say, $300 bucks? Would the $300 be for one date or a month's service? Keep in mind that I sometimes see three, four and maybe 6 different girls a month. Sometimes they are two girl sessions and they are almost always longer than an hour. BBBJ's, CFS, and sometimes (even though I'm not interested) anal is offered. Rent, gas, food and service is acquired for approximately less than $300.

2018 was a slow year; I took the pictures of 25 girls at $300, that would be $7,500. That seems a bit much, considering that it's all the same thing. LOL.

CookyJar.I hear you on this one too. I didn't start out in this game with SBs. I started with SWs. Plus I didn't always have the funds for regular SBs like I do now. You are totally correct that it can cost you upwards of 300+ a date for a decent SB, plus incidentals like a hotel room if you don't use her place and dinners and candy and flowers, etc. The total expense can be daunting. I can afford it so what the hell. And SB pussy IMHO is the sweetest you can buy. As I have said before I never got so much gorgeous college-aged tail when I was in college as I do now. However, I am still a man who likes variety. I still go to strip clubs and have great success with "SB dating" strippers. See my recent post on this subject:http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World&p=4140951#post4140951

I still like to troll for SWs. I see UTRs that advertise on line. I go to MPs. I am bold enough to recruit civvies to drop their drawers for some extra cash. In other words, I am one horndog who can't seem to get enough of everything to be had.

The only point I will agree to disagree with you about is that they are all the same. I like all of them for different reasons. Just as I like different things for breakfast: I adore eggs benedict and filet and lobster scrambled eggs. But sometimes I just want a bowl of oatmeal. Are they the same? No. Do they cost the same? No. Do I want all of them anyway? Yes. Variety for me truly is the spice of life especially where pussy is concerned.

PartyTimeGuy
02-15-19, 17:57
We were at the intersection of Kensington and Summerset. I pulled over in the bus stop area, put the car in park and turned to her to explain that her services wouldn't be needed. I cannot remember if I'd already turned the engine off or if she turned the switch when she grabbed the keys.

CookyJar.I have only had this happen to me once many years ago on a stroll in Tampa. I picked up a SW and thought better of it when I saw her up close in the seat beside me. Tried to drop her off at the next corner and slipped her a 5 for her trouble and she tried o shake me down for 40. I laughed and told her to be happy with what I offered. She tried to pull my keys out. When I stopped her she opened the glove box grabbed a fistful of my papers (registration, insurance) and tried to get our of the car with them. I tried to get them from her and she started swinging wildly at me like a windmill. I backhanded her hard, grabbed my papers, pushed her against the door, opened it and literally kicked her out.

Several lessons to be learned here. Lock your glove box. Don"t have anything you want to keep within reach of the passenger seat. And always be prepared for a possible psycho reaction. Also, keep a spare key in your wallet. That also helps if you ever lock yourself out with the keys inside.

My newest car is keyless. One less potential SW problem to deal with.

SugarBandit
02-15-19, 20:19
A few years ago I thought about dabbling in the Asian, Massage Parlor action. I read though the Massage Parlor Reports thread and by interacting with the guys who frequent the Asian Parlors; I got a ton of good advice. Unfortunately, I was never able to pull the trigger. After all the reading and with all the suggestions, there seemed to be the hint of a underlying theme running though the thread. At $160 a trip, the process was hit and miss. Sometimes there is a lineup, sometimes there is not, sometimes the provider was old, sometimes she was old by looked young, sometimes the shower was great but the service sucked, sometimes the service was excellent and the shower sucked, Sometimes the service was rushed within the paid for hour, and etc. , etc. , and etc. And! Even when the report was favorable, the girl shown in the Massage Parlor ad and the girl reported on seemed TGTBT. IMHO. All it would cost me to find out was a Buck, sixty. Plus! And, this is a big PLUS. I am black and if I am remembering currectly from my overseas adventures, not all Asians are friendly with Black.

After reading some of the Philly Sugar thread, I have come to a similar conclusion. Time and money is not everything, but it seems like sugar daddies spend / waste a lot of both. $200 to $500 for what? What exactly would I get for, let us say, $300 bucks? Would the $300 be for one date or a month's service? Keep in mind that I sometimes see three, four and maybe 6 different girls a month. Sometimes they are two girl sessions and they are almost always longer than an hour. BBBJ's, CFS, and sometimes (even though I'm not interested) anal is offered. Rent, gas, food and service is acquired for approximately less than $300.

2018 was a slow year; I took the pictures of 25 girls at $300, that would be $7,500. That seems a bit much, considering that it's all the same thing. LOL.

CookyJar.When I get a streetwalker for $30-$50 and it sucks, no big deal.

My buddy spends $250 or more and not everytime does he have good things to say.

SugarBandit
02-17-19, 09:25
I have only had this happen to me once many years ago on a stroll in Tampa. I picked up a SW and thought better of it when I saw her up close in the seat beside me. Tried to drop her off at the next corner and slipped her a 5 for her trouble and she tried o shake me down for 40. I laughed and told her to be happy with what I offered. She tried to pull my keys out. When I stopped her she opened the glove box grabbed a fistful of my papers (registration, insurance) and tried to get our of the car with them. I tried to get them from her and she started swinging wildly at me like a windmill. I backhanded her hard, grabbed my papers, pushed her against the door, opened it and literally kicked her out.

Several lessons to be learned here. Lock your glove box. Don"t have anything you want to keep within reach of the passenger seat. And always be prepared for a possible psycho reaction. Also, keep a spare key in your wallet. That also helps if you ever lock yourself out with the keys inside.

My newest car is keyless. One less potential SW problem to deal with.I went to a hotel room once and the pimp placed two girls there. I had a great session with one and the other started talking crap to me and said she would hit me.

I said I would call the cops and she said never.

I looked at her and said, I was single, and there were things in the room that would get her a felony arrest.

Believe me, any cops that would come would love a felony bust.

Lall123
02-18-19, 21:37
I have Jordan's phone number if anyone wants to trade.I will gladly trade every number I have for Jordan's number.

CookyJar
02-18-19, 23:33
You are absolutely 100% on the money IMHO and based on my experience. Sometimes we want filet mignon and sometimes a greasy burger and every now and then some wild boar. We usually but don't always get the quality we pay for but the little head wants what the little head wants, and sometimes the big head has a great time too.
It's all good my brothers!There is a difference between weather and climate.

I think that's where the vast majority of us make our mistake.

In your calculations, you must consider this. How fortunate, with the luck of the draw, we Americans are. For much of the world, all meat is a luxury. The choice between steak and hamburger is non-existing in most countries. Be it steak, rice, tofu, crocodile, California roll, homemade gruel or wild boar, it's all food. Steak or hamburger, when considered at there basic level, are equals. They are both food.

As Americans we are extremely lucky. Black, White, Hispanic, blondes, brunette, PAWGs, spinners, MILF, non-pros, streetwalkers, Sugarbabies and on and on and on, etc., and etc. , our choices seem almost infinite. We are fortunate indeed to have such a wide range of choices in both foods and pussies.

All pussy is pussy. However, there's a big difference between mongering for streetwalkers and mongering for Sugar Babies.


Jojo tells me about her aunt's house, where we could get a room. It turns out that it is two blocks away from the house where I met Vicki. It is in the same neighborhood and within walking distance of Old York Road. (I thought that I may be getting closer to finding out where the girls who use to walk Old York Road, now hang out)
While I was being led into the room, I passed a very pretty young lady who gave me the eye. She could have been black or a caramel skinned Hispanic. There was also a pretty white young lady, standing in the bathroom doorway (who also gave me the eye). Taken an opportunity to glance around and observe my surroundings, I noticed that in the room opposite ours, there were a number of females lying and resting on a bed
he promised to introduce me to the other girl later and made a point of mentioning that there was another, very pretty white girl that I should meet.
CookyJar.Since my encounter with Jojo, I have made two returned trips to her aunt's house. I went back the first time to reintroduce myself and to make sure that I would be welcomed back, should I return and wished to rent a room. I returned a second time, hoping to meet with any of the girls that I had seen during my visit with Jojo. None of those girls were available. Lucky for me, I was introduced to Josephine. Josephine had not been there on the day I first visited with Jojo. Had she been there, I probably would have chosen one of the spinners over her. This just go to show you how powerful luck and chance can be. I doubt seriously whether anyone of those other girls could have provided better service.

I do like the spinners, but good service is my first priority. As an equal Opportunity Monger, I will take a shapely, pretty PAWG, any day.

CookyJar.

MadBastid
02-20-19, 22:10
There is a difference between weather and climate.

I think that's where the vast majority of us make our mistake.

In your calculations, you must consider this. How fortunate, with the luck of the draw, we Americans are. For much of the world, all meat is a luxury. The choice between steak and hamburger is non-existing in most countries. Be it steak, rice, tofu, crocodile, California roll, homemade gruel or wild boar, it's all food. Steak or hamburger, when considered at there basic level, are equals. They are both food.

As Americans we are extremely lucky. Black, White, Hispanic, blondes, brunette, PAWGs, spinners, MILF, non-pros, streetwalkers, Sugarbabies and on and on and on, etc., and etc. , our choices seem almost infinite. We are fortunate indeed to have such a wide range of choices in both foods and pussies.

All pussy is pussy. However, there's a big difference between mongering for streetwalkers and mongering for Sugar Babies.

Since my encounter with Jojo, I have made two returned trips to her aunt's house. I went back the first time to reintroduce myself and to make sure that I would be welcomed back, should I return and wished to rent a room. I returned a second time, hoping to meet with any of the girls that I had seen during my visit with Jojo. None of those girls were available. Lucky for me, I was introduced to Josephine. Josephine had not been there on the day I first visited with Jojo. Had she been there, I probably would have chosen one of the spinners over her. This just go to show you how powerful luck and chance can be. I doubt seriously whether anyone of those other girls could have provided better service.

I do like the spinners, but good service is my first priority. As an equal Opportunity Monger, I will take a shapely, pretty PAWG, any day.

CookyJar.Me too. Instant wood without a pill when I saw her pics. I almost came. Keep up the good work CJ!

CookyJar
02-22-19, 01:35
Arrived at a house near Opry Mills. Young AA male emerged from the side yard with a handgun. Robbed of 200. Threatened to kill me. Just so you guys know.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6fa1b897-3962-44ca-a46a-f397550efd22I got this quote from the USASexGuide, Tennessee, Nashville, Seeking Arrangement (SA) thread. I hope they don't mind.

When comparing mongering for Streetwalkers with other methods of mongering, the dangers inherit with socializing with streetwalkers are always mentioned.

The above quote should remind us that there are dangers involved in every form of mongering. Knock on wood; I have never been in any danger, although I have been in a number of places where I wouldn't suggest others go.

I believe that is the key. Never go anywhere or do anything that is beyond your own personal comforted level.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
02-24-19, 02:13
...to the missing North Philly stroll.


Jojo tells me about her aunt's house, where we could get a room. It turns out that it is two blocks away from the house where I met Vicki. It is in the same neighborhood and within walking distance of Old York Road. (I thought that I may be getting closer to finding out where the girls who use to walk Old York Road, now hang out.).
CookyJar.It is not an obsession. It is more like a treasure hunt, a challenge. I know it is there, somewhere and with a little effort, I will find it. Philadelphia is too large a city to have just one stroll. Kensington Avenue is the main stroll. There are smaller strolls in South Philly and West Philly. Is there one in North Philly?

Old York Road, in its day, was second only to Kensington. Over the last few years I've come across a number of providers in the general area of Old York Road. If they are not walking on Old York Road, where are they finding new dates? They cannot be getting all of their regulars from the internet. Most providers, whether they are UTR or on an escort website, venture out on the streets when times are hard. None of the girls that I have meant in the area would admit to being streetwalkers. Even the two that I actually found walking the street, Heaven and Jojo, claimed that they were not area streetwalkers.

All of the signs point to there being another stroll, somewhere in North Philly. I am going to find it, and when I do.!

CookyJar.

NumberDude
02-24-19, 17:10
Maybe it's already been reported, but can anyone provide an accurate update on Aundrea?

CookyJar.I used to date her when she and Maylea were on Princeton Ave a few years ago. Had them both together once. I think Aundrea is totally beautiful. Maylea too. Don't know how I lost touch with them. Maybe after the Princeton house got busted. Please post or PM me if anyone knows how to reach them. I have trades.

Farouk
02-25-19, 01:16
All of the signs point to there being another stroll, somewhere in North Philly. I am going to find it, and when I do.!

CookyJar.Recently, I had some work in that general area, just North of the Boulevard along Broad street. During the day, for sure there isn't anything much happening, but one night I had to return for a jacket I had left. Unless I'm in a hurry, I pick a route that lets me see what the sights may be. There are plenty of opportunities, they just aren't as obvious as Kensington Ave. First along Hunting Park, and then along Belfield there are women walking in no particular direction, watching to see who's watching them. A little further up Broad, where Windrim crosses there might have been another. None of them interested me enough to actually test the waters, but the market is there.

CookyJar
02-26-19, 23:04
… one night I had to return for a jacket I had left. Unless I'm in a hurry, I pick a route that lets me see what the sights may be. There are plenty of opportunities, they just aren't as obvious as Kensington Ave. First along Hunting Park, and then along Belfield there are women walking in no particular direction, watching to see who's watching them. A little further up Broad, where Windrim crosses there might have been another. None of them interested me enough to actually test the waters, but the market is there.Careful brother, all is not what it seems to be. The last I checked, after dark, the area was full of female pretenders. During the daylight hours there are a lot of real females, most have seen better days. I was totally shocked to have found Jojo in the area.

I haven't done a hard core search, after dark, on Old York Road in ages. I am genuinely passing though on my way to Kensington Avenue, during the day.

Most girls will not openly admit to being streetwalkers. Even the girls that are out every day will usually state that they just came out or that they aren't usually out on the avenue. Attached are pictures of five girls that I know to be deeply connected with the Old York Road area. Four, when asked, said that they never go down to Kensington Avenue and never work in the streets.

Jojo, the one girl that I found walking near OYR, said she had regulars who came to pick her up. Vicki said that she has family in Kensington, so never came there. Bambi said that she has regulars who provided for her. Hope, who always wanted to be dropped off at a house that I am familiar with near OYR, said she rarely comes to Kensington. And! Josephine also claimed to be supported entirely by regulars.

All five are pretty girls who I doubt venture out on OYR after dark. To my knowledge, none other than Hope has been reported on by anyone other than me (and that Ole' gator). So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.

Dog2000
02-27-19, 01:44
To answer your question, I have no idea. Tonight after a less than satisfying massage venture, I drove around the spots listed on the street walker forum and saw nothing remotely close to you #2 and #3 pictured girls. There were tons of LEO's out all over the place and nothing worth getting busted for. I mean nothing but super heavy or cracked out thin girls. I spoke to two through the window that looked good from afar and were rotten when they got closer. I come to Philly for a week almost every month and this is the third time I have tried to find a decent SW. I work during the day so I can't get out early to see if there is anything better out there in the daylight. I would pay top dollar to the #2 and #3 girls though if I spotted them. I would love to have a couple of UTRs to hook up with when I am in town but to your point I have no idea where they are.

Lance547
02-27-19, 12:54
Careful brother, all is not what it seems to be. The last I checked, after dark, the area was full of female pretenders. During the daylight hours there are a lot of real females, most have seen better days. I was totally shocked to have found Jojo in the area.

I haven't done a hard core search, after dark, on Old York Road in ages. I am genuinely passing though on my way to Kensington Avenue, during the day.

Most girls will not openly admit to being streetwalkers. Even the girls that are out every day will usually state that they just came out or that they aren't usually out on the avenue. Attached are pictures of five girls that I know to be deeply connected with the Old York Road area. Four, when asked, said that they never go down to Kensington Avenue and never work in the streets.

Jojo, the one girl that I found walking near OYR, said she had regulars who came to pick her up. Vicki said that she has family in Kensington, so never came there. Bambi said that she has regulars who provided for her. Hope, who always wanted to be dropped off at a house that I am familiar with near OYR, said she rarely comes to Kensington. And! Josephine also claimed to be supported entirely by regulars.

All five are pretty girls who I doubt venture out on OYR after dark. To my knowledge, none other than Hope has been reported on by anyone other than me (and that Ole' gator). So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.1. Personally, I wouldn't expect a straight answer from these type of women. These type of women are either habitual liars, or they are just going to (smartly) give you a story to avoid incriminating themselves.

2. Most guys don't have a clue how many contacts a provider can accumulate in short order that is enough to sustain themselves to where they don't have to venture out on the street providing they have a cellphone.

I said in a post a while back I got close to a provider and out of curiosity looked through her phone while she was nodded out and her contact list was basically full and that was after she told me that she erased quite a few clients that she didn't want to deal with anymore.

This girl had at least 200+ numbers (many with photos attached to the number) and was getting called and texted all throughout the day, everyday. She would often turn clients away. She just had this attitude that clients were aways plentiful and disposable.

She didn't need to work any avenue, she just worked her phone. If she needed a place to stay for the night she had a rotation of guys for that. When she needed her meds she had a rotation of guys for that. When she wanted to feel like someone's girlfriend and do bf / gf stuff she called me and I'm sure other guys. And everyone else was strictly a client to support her. I remember once reading a text how she was asking some guy to give her a few hundred dollars to pay her child support. The guy had no clue her own mother gave her money to pay her child support days prior but she blew all the money on dope right in front of me.

That said, I have met a few providers who vehemently refuse to work the street and view street walkers as trash and make fun of them. One provider online I know on a bad day will match SW donations but yet still looks down on street walkers and.

Lance547
02-27-19, 15:46
So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.One of the girls from your photos can be found here:

https://escortindex.com/ad/philadelphia/215-668-9159/1/1867480

NvrStlPhilly
02-27-19, 15:59
1. Personally, I wouldn't expect a straight answer from these type of women. These type of women are either habitual liars, or they are just going to (smartly) give you a story to avoid incriminating themselves.

2. Most guys don't have a clue how many contacts a provider can accumulate in short order that is enough to sustain themselves to where they don't have to venture out on the street providing they have a cellphone.

I said in a post a while back I got close to a provider and out of curiosity looked through her phone while she was nodded out and her contact list was basically full and that was after she told me that she erased quite a few clients that she didn't want to deal with anymore.

This girl had at least 200+ numbers (many with photos attached to the number) and was getting called and texted all throughout the day, everyday. She would often turn clients away. She just had this attitude that clients were aways plentiful and disposable.

She didn't need to work any avenue, she just worked her phone. If she needed a place to stay for the night she had a rotation of guys for that. When she needed her meds she had a rotation of guys for that. When she wanted to feel like someone's girlfriend and do bf / gf stuff she called me and I'm sure other guys. And everyone else was strictly a client to support her. I remember once reading a text how she was asking some guy to give her a few hundred dollars to pay her child support. The guy had no clue her own mother gave her money to pay her child support days prior but she blew all the money on dope right in front of me.

That said, I have met a few providers who vehemently refuse to work the street and view street walkers as trash and make fun of them. One provider online I know on a bad day will match SW donations but yet still looks down on street walkers and.I have seen and dealt with dozens of strippers, sws, escorts etc. Once they hit 35 or 40 and the body looks like a pin cushion (needles) then life as they know it is over. At this point they beg for money. Many stop drugs and get on methadone or psych meds and live with a really old man with like a ssn check or city pension. The living conditions are squalor at best. Barely any dudes will date her sober. She will just be a blown out hoe. I have seen hoes from say 20 years ago and had to deny I was never with her to my friends!

Magik Mike
02-27-19, 18:18
Careful brother, all is not what it seems to be. The last I checked, after dark, the area was full of female pretenders. During the daylight hours there are a lot of real females, most have seen better days. I was totally shocked to have found Jojo in the area.

I haven't done a hard core search, after dark, on Old York Road in ages. I am genuinely passing though on my way to Kensington Avenue, during the day.

Most girls will not openly admit to being streetwalkers. Even the girls that are out every day will usually state that they just came out or that they aren't usually out on the avenue. Attached are pictures of five girls that I know to be deeply connected with the Old York Road area. Four, when asked, said that they never go down to Kensington Avenue and never work in the streets.

Jojo, the one girl that I found walking near OYR, said she had regulars who came to pick her up. Vicki said that she has family in Kensington, so never came there. Bambi said that she has regulars who provided for her. Hope, who always wanted to be dropped off at a house that I am familiar with near OYR, said she rarely comes to Kensington. And! Josephine also claimed to be supported entirely by regulars.

All five are pretty girls who I doubt venture out on OYR after dark. To my knowledge, none other than Hope has been reported on by anyone other than me (and that Ole' gator). So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.I am only here few days visiting, didn't have much time to research beforehand. I did get some intel already on strip clubs in other forum, but I am very interested in some guidance on the DO's and don't's here in Philly for SW scene. I like the type in your pics. I am staying near the old Navy Yard, any recommendations would be appreciated. PM is fine, thanks. If you ever make it to JAX, hit me up for info.

MM.

CookyJar
02-28-19, 00:21
One of the girls from your photos can be found here:
https://escortindex.com/ad/philadelphia/215-668-9159/1/1867480Wow! I can hardly believe it. That is her. If you could have seen the dump of a house, where I met her, you too would be in disbelief. Why would a sweetheart like Bambi, with her looks and potential, chance being seen in such a dump. Someone has rotated some of her photos (her tattoo is actually on her right side), but that is her. Unless! Maybe, someone is using her old pictures.

It was Hope who introduced us. I have been back there a few times, looking for Bambi. While looking for Bambi, I found Vicki. I always asked about Bambi (why wouldn't I). I was told that she was not available at that time.

The last time I visited the house where I found Bambi and Vicki, it was abandon. I would not be surprised if that house had been torn down. IMHO, considering the street that it is on, it is not worth another knock on the door.

Thanks Lance547.

CookyJar
02-28-19, 00:45
…any recommendations would be appreciated. PM is fine, thanks. If you ever make it to JAX, hit me up for info.
MM.I wish I could help, but recommendations are not what I do. I photograph the girls who work in and around Kensington Avenue.

Maybe some other member will come to your aid.

CookyJar.

Farouk
02-28-19, 10:36
Careful brother, all is not what it seems to be. The last I checked, after dark, the area was full of female pretenders. During the daylight hours there are a lot of real females, most have seen better days. I was totally shocked to have found Jojo in the area.

I haven't done a hard core search, after dark, on Old York Road in ages. I am genuinely passing though on my way to Kensington Avenue, during the day.

Most girls will not openly admit to being streetwalkers. Even the girls that are out every day will usually state that they just came out or that they aren't usually out on the avenue. Attached are pictures of five girls that I know to be deeply connected with the Old York Road area. Four, when asked, said that they never go down to Kensington Avenue and never work in the streets.

Jojo, the one girl that I found walking near OYR, said she had regulars who came to pick her up. Vicki said that she has family in Kensington, so never came there. Bambi said that she has regulars who provided for her. Hope, who always wanted to be dropped off at a house that I am familiar with near OYR, said she rarely comes to Kensington. And! Josephine also claimed to be supported entirely by regulars.

All five are pretty girls who I doubt venture out on OYR after dark. To my knowledge, none other than Hope has been reported on by anyone other than me (and that Ole' gator). So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.Cookie, I know exactly what you are talking about. I grew up a few miles from there, and have explored all of those neighborhoods. For whatever reason, the area around hunting Park, all the way to the brickyards in Germantown has always had a large number of lady-boys. Not a good place to be looking for women if you have poor eyesight. Ha!

Lance547
02-28-19, 13:43
I have seen and dealt with dozens of strippers, sws, escorts etc. Once they hit 35 or 40 and the body looks like a pin cushion (needles) then life as they know it is over. At this point they beg for money. Many stop drugs and get on methadone or psych meds and live with a really old man with like a ssn check or city pension. The living conditions are squalor at best. Barely any dudes will date her sober. She will just be a blown out hoe. I have seen hoes from say 20 years ago and had to deny I was never with her to my friends!You have just described a few cases that I have seen with my own eyes to the letter.

I use to see this one gal in Upper Darby that is pushing 30. She was a hard core drug addict for over 15 years and actually hid it pretty well. Well, about a year ago she got the vivitrol shot and doesn't use anymore but also blew up like a blimp.

Today she's unrecognizable in looks and personality from her former days ripping and running the streets. Last I know she moved in with an older man who knows of her past history.

Magik Mike
02-28-19, 23:57
I wish I could help, but recommendations are not what I do. I photograph the girls who work in and around Kensington Avenue.

Maybe some other member will come to your aid.

CookyJar.No problem, I understand and thanks anyway.

MM.

NvrStlPhilly
03-01-19, 14:35
You have just described a few cases that I have seen with my own eyes to the letter.

I use to see this one gal in Upper Darby that is pushing 30. She was a hard core drug addict for over 15 years and actually hid it pretty well. Well, about a year ago she got the vivitrol shot and doesn't use anymore but also blew up like a blimp.

Today she's unrecognizable in looks and personality from her former days ripping and running the streets. Last I know she moved in with an older man who knows of her past history.The lonely monger who is most likely elderly will fall for the SW's. Another group is the men who repel regular civilians. Beware of any HOE in shape or form. The hoe can't express love or give love. They are takers and NOT givers. This is just a fact or something in their character. You will be used and abused. Most hoes don't even lover their own blood kids. Elders are at a big risk for manipulation.

PartyTimeGuy
03-01-19, 19:40
I used to date her when she and Maylea were on Princeton Ave a few years ago. Had them both together once. I think Aundrea is totally beautiful. Maylea too. Don't know how I lost touch with them. Maybe after the Princeton house got busted. Please post or PM me if anyone knows how to reach them. I have trades.I have a distinct memory of being with an Aundrea many years ago on a sojourn thru Kensington. My memory of her is vivid, not so much exactly when it would have been. I do remember she had her own place. She was a blonde, medium height, tightly packed and a firecracker personality. I found a pic of her that CJ posted about 3 years ago. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=399870&d=1449288627

Any recent intel on her? She was a very fun and repeatable date.

CookyJar
03-07-19, 00:40
I have a distinct memory of being with an Aundrea many years ago…You certainly weren't the only one. Aundrea (her street name) put a lot of smiles on a lot of guy's faces. A lot of guys fell in love with this little minx. She was especially good at enticing and encouraging her friends to perform well. My date with her and Lux remains one of my top favorite threesomes.

Unfortunately you are way out of date. She left the life to settle down and have a little baby. She did return briefly, only to disappear again. Aundrea would have been good at anything she decided to do in life. I hope wherever she is, she's doing well.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
03-08-19, 21:00
and now she on Kensington Avenue

Say what you may, about Kensington Avenue, but you cannot argue with its variety. When it comes to variety it's as equal to, if not better than most places or forms of mongering. If you have a type, sooner or later you will find it on Kensington Avenue.


Yeah! Kia is new to the SW scene. Someone needs to school her, or she won't last long. She is an excellent provider and I would like to see her stay around for a while.
Even though I was drained from my date with Stacey, Kia was able to do her thing and get me going. Her BBBJ was excellent. Covered missionary was excellent. Everything about her was excellent. However, sadly, I was shooting blanks.
I am hoping she stays around long enough for me to get a second shot. I would love to get Kia and Stacey together. How often do you find two BSW'ers who you can trust to give good service?
CookyJar.When I first posted Kia's Photos, back in July of 2015 she made a rather large blip on the South Jersey Monger's radar screen. Not these pictures; follow this link, RE: I don't get it but these; follow this link, and stroll down Her Name Is Kia .

I am going to say today, what I implied back in 2015, she is the same girl. She was the same girl then and she is the same girl today.

Kia is a great provider, a little loopy at times, but she never fails to please. And! Most importantly to some, the girl I recently photographed in 2019, looks the same as the girl in her personal pictures posted back in 2015.

CookyJar.

KiaX.

CookyJar
03-19-19, 19:41
I have no idea why Kia did not get one single responds to her picture. Having been with her on numerous occasions, IMHO, she is a real hottie. A lot of guy get shy when it comes to BSWers and I don't blame you. Truth me on this, if you have been tempted by a little jungle fever and are eager to sample something from the wide size, I highly recommend Kia. She's gentle, sweet, sexy as hell and a very willing provider.

CookyJar.

JamesGlia
03-19-19, 21:39
I have no idea why Kia did not get one single responds to her picture. Having been with her on numerous occasions, IMHO, she is a real hottie. A lot of guy get shy when it comes to BSWers and I don't blame you. Truth me on this, if you have been tempted by a little jungle fever and are eager to sample something from the wide size, I highly recommend Kia. She's gentle, sweet, sexy as hell and a very willing provider.

CookyJar.I was with Kia several times in Camden. She was really cute then but still has that look. Both her parents have passed in the past two years so I really feel bad for her. Would love to bump into her again. Can you share what cross street she may hang around? She was always a nice time.

DirtMcGirt215
03-19-19, 22:11
and now she on Kensington Avenue

Say what you may, about Kensington Avenue, but you cannot argue with its variety. When it comes to variety it's as equal to, if not better than most places or forms of mongering. If you have a type, sooner or later you will find it on Kensington Avenue.

When I first posted Kia's Photos, back in July of 2015 she made a rather large blip on the South Jersey Monger's radar screen. Not these pictures; follow this link, RE: I don't get it but these; follow this link, and stroll down Her Name Is Kia .

I am going to say today, what I implied back in 2015, she is the same girl. She was the same girl then and she is the same girl today.

Kia is a great provider, a little loopy at times, but she never fails to please. And! Most importantly to some, the girl I recently photographed in 2019, looks the same as the girl in her personal pictures posted back in 2015.

CookyJar.

KiaX.Strip clubs usually were my thing, but Kia is making me want to take a ride down to the ave.

Tussel
03-20-19, 20:21
I have no idea why Kia did not get one single responds to her picture. Having been with her on numerous occasions, IMHO, she is a real hottie. A lot of guy get shy when it comes to BSWers and I don't blame you. Truth me on this, if you have been tempted by a little jungle fever and are eager to sample something from the wide size, I highly recommend Kia. She's gentle, sweet, sexy as hell and a very willing provider.

CookyJar.I am so glad Kia is doing fine and looking fine. I dated her back in 2015 when she was in Camden. She is truly one of a kind and an unforgettable BSW. I am sorry to hear about her parents. I noticed her hair is shorter. She really is a beauty and I remember when I first met her I thought she was a cop because she looked to good to be out there on the street.

CookyJar
03-20-19, 22:06
I was with Kia several times in Camden. She was really cute then but still has that look. Both her parents have passed in the past two years so I really feel bad for her. Would love to bump into her again. Can you share what cross street she may hang around? She was always a nice time.She was walking on Kensington Ave, a block before Somerset Station. I've also seen her as far up the avenue as Little Lou's.

Most girls know better than to stand idle on a corner or walk aimlessly in one area. The last time I saw Kia, she saw me first.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
03-20-19, 22:39
I am so glad Kia is doing fine and looking fine. I dated her back in 2015 when she was in Camden. She is truly one of a kind and an unforgettable BSW. I am sorry to hear about her parents. I noticed her hair is shorter. She really is a beauty and I remember when I first met her I thought she was a cop because she looked to good to be out there on the street.She has not changed much. She's a little smaller, maybe. A little makeup, a little effort and she'd look just like she did in 2015. IMHO, she still looks too good to be on the streets.

These are pictures given to me by Kia.

CookyJar.

WhenWhen
03-21-19, 01:11
Otherwise, you would have gotten an immediate response from me. She is a beauty. Very sexy indeed.


I have no idea why Kia did not get one single responds to her picture. Having been with her on numerous occasions, IMHO, she is a real hottie. A lot of guy get shy when it comes to BSWers and I don't blame you. Truth me on this, if you have been tempted by a little jungle fever and are eager to sample something from the wide size, I highly recommend Kia. She's gentle, sweet, sexy as hell and a very willing provider.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
03-28-19, 21:24
I introduced myself to Julia about two months ago. At first I thought she could have possibly been one of two other friends, either Michelle or Daisy. All three girls Julia, Daisy and Michelle have the same body type, stature and complexion. Although I pride myself with being an Equal Opportunity Monger, I do have my preferences and one of them being, cute little Hispanic spinners.

Oddly, I chanced upon all three on Jasper, between Hazzard and Huntingdon.

CookyJar.

Strange
03-31-19, 22:24
You somehow are able to find the prettiest girls out there and show them in a way that shows their light. Can't thank you enough. I'm still envious of what you do. One day I'll find my stride.

Glockman
04-03-19, 14:13
CJ. Some time ago you and I and your group had a discussion on what is a Spinner. As I recall, you put a height requirement and I didn't. Anything changed since then? Without knowing her height, is Heaven a spinner? BTW, she just turned 40 in March.

CookyJar
04-04-19, 03:19
Isn't it sad how quickly a few weeks or months on the streets of Kensington will run a pretty girl into the ground. When I first saw the pics of Jordan I really hoped to find her. I did. She was on Jasper near Huntington. Her cute butt is nothing like it was in the photos. She has lost so much weight...In my original post on Jordan, I did make reference to how slight and off-putting she appeared in her crummy street clothing. Even though I was put-off by what I first saw, I took a chance that the body underneath would justify the pickup.

Also, as in it concerns Jordan, there was a report that she had recently been badly beaten about her face by some brave women abuser. I don't hit women; heaven knows some deserve a good beating. But! IMHO, life is much too short to sweat the petty shyt and I personally have too much self-respect. I guess girls like Jordan and little Michelle (who was also badly beaten) are just easy targets and big tough women beaters can't resist the opportunity to beat on someone smaller than them.

There are many reasons why appearances change. (I believe I first saw Jordan after she had been newly released and freshly deposited back on the avenue.).

Sometimes the changes the girls undergo are good and sometimes they're bad. A lot depends on point of view. As a photographer, I get a very diverse perspective. I see things some of you wouldn't understand and couldn't imagine. Often change is a matter of neglect. I saw Amanda aka Pinky both at her best and then again at her worst. It saddened me deeply. It was to weep. Sometimes the transition is for the best and sometime it's not. Sometimes it's done on purpose. I saw Amy's transition before and after with total disbelief. Actually, I preferred the small version. Oh! And, then there was Ashley. Looking at Ashley then & now 001 and Ashely Then & now 002, the mind is befuddled. How could anyone have been expected to recognize her? I was and remain confused. I didn't recognize her at all. It was she who pointed out our pass history. Bambi aka Molissa aka Corey was a huge hit on both the Kensington and NJ threads during her last reincarnating. No one, not a single monger, recognized Bambi aka Molissa aka Corey from any of her earlier photos. And, then there was Maylea. Maylea thin or Maylea thick is a toss-up. She remains a favorite. Maylea's weight yoyos up and down, depending on her current living arrangements. And then there is Missey, whose transformation still baffles those who knew her. And, finally there are girls like Nicole who look good whether thick or thin. How is one to choose? I like her thin.

Some guys like thick girl and some guys like them thin. If they would only wait a minute, a week or a month, the girl who they didnt like when she was small or big will return reincarnated as the women of their dreams.

My point is: Just wait a minute and another will come along and it will probably be the same girl. LOL.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
04-04-19, 04:45
I could care less. Spinner or not, who the fuck cares. The heart wants what the heart wants. I would give my left nut. Fuck it, who am I kidding. I would give both my left and right nut to fuck her with a twenty-year-old dick. LOL.


CJ. Some time ago you and I and your group had a discussion on what is a Spinner. As I recall, you put a height requirement and I didn't. Anything changed since then? Without knowing her height, is Heaven a spinner? BTW, she just turned 40 in March.When I meet a woman in her 40ties who looks like she's in her twenties and provides services with the intensity of a twenty year old and senual knowledge of a forty year old, I always suggest that she keeps her age to herself. Think about it! A twenty year old with the sexual knowledge of a forty year old has got to be the holy grail of sexuality. Twenty year old women with a 40 year old women's sexual knowledge cannot possible exist. But! A forty year old lady, who looks like she's twenty and has the sexual wisdom of her true age. That's what I want for Christmas, my birthday and any other way I could get her.

I like her! I like her a lot! I liked her the first time I saw her in the USASexGuidePhotoGallery. I liked her even before you posted her picture in the Cookyjar Photo Thread. I liked her even before you spilled the beans about her age. I liked her the first time I saw her in the Memphis forum. There is just one thing, just one thing only that could possibly improve on the current situation as it stands. If I could fuck her with a twenty year old's dick.

CookyJar.

Glockman
04-04-19, 07:37
I could care less. Spinner or not, who the fuck cares. The heart wants what the heart wants. I would give my left nut. Fuck it, who am I kidding. I would give both my left and right nut to fuck her with a twenty-year-old dick. LOL.

When I meet a woman in her 40ties who looks like she's in her twenties and provides services with the intensity of a twenty year old and senual knowledge of a forty year old, I always suggest that she keeps her age to herself. Think about it! A twenty year old with the sexual knowledge of a forty year old has got to be the holy grail of sexuality. Twenty year old women with a 40 year old women's sexual knowledge cannot possible exist. But! A forty year old lady, who looks like she's twenty and has the sexual wisdom of her true age. That's what I want for Christmas, my birthday and any other way I could get her.

I like her! I like her a lot! I liked her the first time I saw her in the USASexGuidePhotoGallery. I liked her even before you posted her picture in the Cookyjar Photo Thread. I liked her even before you spilled the beans about her age. I liked her the first time I saw her in the Memphis forum. There is just one thing, just one thing only that could possibly improve on the current situation as it stands. If I could fuck her with a twenty year old's dick.

CookyJar.Unlike many older ladies she is proud of her age. In fact, she usually brags about it when you get up with her. I know lots of 20 year olds who don't look that good. And in her heels she is 6' 2". She towers over me. One of my ATFs. And I would be happy to fuck her with a 60 year old dick. Lol

TheSwampHawk
04-04-19, 10:49
I could care less. Spinner or not, who the fuck cares. The heart wants what the heart wants. I would give my left nut. Fuck it, who am I kidding. I would give both my left and right nut to fuck her with a twenty-year-old dick. LOL.

When I meet a woman in her 40ties who looks like she's in her twenties and provides services with the intensity of a twenty year old and senual knowledge of a forty year old, I always suggest that she keeps her age to herself. Think about it! A twenty year old with the sexual knowledge of a forty year old has got to be the holy grail of sexuality. Twenty year old women with a 40 year old women's sexual knowledge cannot possible exist. But! A forty year old lady, who looks like she's twenty and has the sexual wisdom of her true age. That's what I want for Christmas, my birthday and any other way I could get her.

I like her! I like her a lot! I liked her the first time I saw her in the USASexGuidePhotoGallery. I liked her even before you posted her picture in the Cookyjar Photo Thread. I liked her even before you spilled the beans about her age. I liked her the first time I saw her in the Memphis forum. There is just one thing, just one thing only that could possibly improve on the current situation as it stands. If I could fuck her with a twenty year old's dick.

CookyJar.What he said!

HH, SS,

-SH.

FngrBngr
04-04-19, 10:55
Empirical evidence that it does a body good. Nice job cj.

Glockman
04-04-19, 11:51
What he said!

HH, SS,

-SH.In fact, she posts her age in her ads that use my pics. Like I said she is proud of it.

TurdMuffin
04-04-19, 16:05
This Carey needs to be put on zinc and water diet; fine fine fine some minerals as well. Looks very violatable.


In my original post on Jordan, I did make reference to how ...

My point is: Just wait a minute and another will come along and it will probably be the same girl. LOL.

CookyJar.

Old School 62
04-05-19, 16:51
"And, finally there are girls like Nicole who look good whether thick or thin. How is one to choose? I like her thin".



As some of you recall, I had posted about my nightmare date with Nicole. I would have to check the date of that post but I'm thinking it was maybe 7 years ago. Oh yes, she was thin then.

Old School.

CookyJar
04-07-19, 22:12
You've already met Julia, now meet CoCo.


You somehow are able to find the prettiest girls out there and show them in a way that shows their light. Can't thank you enough. I'm still envious of what you doI wish that was true.

When Julia and I arrived at the Inn CoCo was already there in her room, with a date. Although I already had Julia, I was still feeling lucky. I asked the inn keeper to inquire whether the young lady in the next room would care to join us for a threesome.

It's not always about pretty. IMHO, performance is what matters. In this particular case, I got lucky. Both Julia and CoCo, in an effort to outshine each other, provided talented BBBJs.

CookyJar.

Strange
04-07-19, 22:51
You've already met Julia, now meet CoCo.

I wish that was true.

When Julia and I arrived at the Inn CoCo was already there in her room, with a date. Although I already had Julia, I was still feeling lucky. I asked the inn keeper to inquire whether the young lady in the next room would care to join us for a threesome.

It's not always about pretty. IMHO, performance is what matters. In this particular case, I got lucky. Both Julia and CoCo, in an effort to outshine each other, provided talented BBBJs.

CookyJar.Did you Devine a victor in such a noble contest? Lately I'm just looking for gems. Going home unlucky a lot. Granted I've passed up completely acceptable girls almost every time because I always want to see who else is out. I'm my own worse enemy. Looking forward to your next post.

CookyJar
04-15-19, 21:07
Lately I'm just looking for gems. Going home unlucky a lot. Granted I've passed up completely acceptable girls.A Diamond in the rough is just a rock. Until a specialist gives it shape and Polish, a gem stone is little more than a piece of coal, a lump of carbon. Often it takes the train eye to see the shiny object within.

Some guys like a little something to grab hold of and other guys like a lot of something to grab. To each his own.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
04-15-19, 21:22
…Until a specialist gives it shape and Polish, a gem stone is little more than a piece of coal, a lump of carbon…
CookyJar.IMHO, with a little weight to add on some shape, a little makeup and a hair do, Julia could be a Gem. Maybe she isn't a perfect diamond, but she's no lump of coal either.

JMHO.

CookyJar.

Strange
04-15-19, 23:13
IMHO, with a little weight to add on some shape, a little makeup and a hair do, Julia could be a Gem. Maybe she isn't a perfect diamond, but she's no lump of coal either.

JMHO.

CookyJar.When I say gems it means that they have that "je ne sais quoi" for me. I found my self just settling a lot and decided to be a little more discriminating. Maybe too discriminating. Not to say coco doesn't have a beautiful face, she's just not my type. There are some characteristics where I can stray out of my type but not all. But fairs fair there are others of us who would pass up all the girls I go for because they aren't their type. Have found a few beautiful girls, maybe not to the same level as the girls you meet, but beautiful just the same. That wasn't meant to be swipe but an admiration. I like girls on the younger side but have to say I just met a very pretty girl Melissa that is 35, super talented, awesome personality and has the body of a 20 yo. She might just be my new favorite. Maybe that’s me working through my problems? But seriously......what I would like to do with Julia......also you never said who won?

CookyJar
04-16-19, 10:04
......also you never said who won?Both Julia and CoCo performance's were excellent. However, it was CoCo who got the prize. Both girls rotated within the lineup. CoCo was up in the rotation at the time the prize was given. She took the prize down in one gulp.

I got the impression that Julia would have done the same, had she been up to bat.

CookyJar.

Strange
04-16-19, 21:56
Both Julia and CoCo performance's were excellent. However, it was CoCo who got the prize. Both girls rotated within the lineup. CoCo was up in the rotation at the time the prize was given. She took the prize down in one gulp.

I got the impression that Julia would have done the same, had she been up to bat.

CookyJar.If only we were made of money. Both girls could get a prize. There's always the lottery. I keep playing. Millennials all expect an award.... at least we have that.

ToniSnif
04-17-19, 17:37
There is a difference between weather and climate.

I think that's where the vast majority of us make our mistake.

In your calculations, you must consider this. How fortunate, with the luck of the draw, we Americans are. For much of the world, all meat is a luxury. The choice between steak and hamburger is non-existing in most countries. Be it steak, rice, tofu, crocodile, California roll, homemade gruel or wild boar, it's all food. Steak or hamburger, when considered at there basic level, are equals. They are both food.

As Americans we are extremely lucky. Black, White, Hispanic, blondes, brunette, PAWGs, spinners, MILF, non-pros, streetwalkers, Sugarbabies and on and on and on, etc., and etc. , our choices seem almost infinite. We are fortunate indeed to have such a wide range of choices in both foods and pussies.

All pussy is pussy. However, there's a big difference between mongering for streetwalkers and mongering for Sugar Babies.

Since my encounter with Jojo, I have made two returned trips to her aunt's house. I went back the first time to reintroduce myself and to make sure that I would be welcomed back, should I return and wished to rent a room. I returned a second time, hoping to meet with any of the girls that I had seen during my visit with Jojo. None of those girls were available. Lucky for me, I was introduced to Josephine. Josephine had not been there on the day I first visited with Jojo. Had she been there, I probably would have chosen one of the spinners over her. This just go to show you how powerful luck and chance can be. I doubt seriously whether anyone of those other girls could have provided better service.

I do like the spinners, but good service is my first priority. As an equal Opportunity Monger, I will take a shapely, pretty PAWG, any day.

CookyJar.She is very sexy and those hairy armpits are to die for!

CookyJar
04-23-19, 22:34
Isn't it sad how quickly a few weeks or months on the streets of Kensington will run a pretty girl into the ground….Her cute butt is nothing like it was in the photos. She has lost so much weight...Like I said in my original responds to the above quote, there are many reasons why appearances change. These pictures of Star were taken in February. Sorry about the delay, this is just a hobby and not my life. I recently drove though Kensington and it just so happens that I saw Star. Although we did not date, I did notice that there have been some changes. I will not comment on what I may or may not have perceived during a brief encounter. I feel more comfortable relying on what I know for sure.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
04-23-19, 22:37
In February, wearing dark gloomy outerwear, Star did not look like much standing on the corner near Huntingdon station. Her blank expression seemed a little challenging. Never-the-less I took a chance.

Star has a great body and a quite personality. She provides a flexible GFE, taking and preforming directions like a good girlfriend should. I was pleasantly pleased to find a dormant nymph hidden within her shy persona.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
04-28-19, 22:45
I've been repeating this for years. Every monger comes to the sex trades with their own expectations. If you are looking for a wife or girlfriend, you are best off looking elsewhere.

Take Lauren for example, IMHO, she is a dream come true. For me, she is exactly what I am looking for. Her long shapely legs, beautiful PAWG butt and pleasant facial features are more than adequate to meet my needs. Lauren's smile, her GFE services, her way above average BBBJ and her soft gentle female touch is all that I need.

I found Lauren on the upper end of the stroll, near the former Bull Auto Dealership. That was way back in the middle of March. Since then, I've been out looking for her with no succeed. Another, streetwalker did inform me that Lauren sometime ventures out near the Huntingdon station area.

What I remembered most about our date is our cuddling afterwards and our total enjoyment of each other's company.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
04-28-19, 22:49
I anyone know Lauren please speak-up. She is my current favorite. I would love to see her one more time. If possible.


My guess is she either got a better date or just don't need your $20-$60 at the moment. She probably does get the $100 to $150 from some dudes who can afford it and if one of them calls her your out.WTF. I've said it once and I said it a thousand times. If you come to this hobby looking for Mrs. Right, you are going to end up being disappointed. If you come to it (this hobby) with just a little commonsense, if you are lucky, you just may leave with your senses intact.

What half-ass intelligent person would rather suck some stranger's dick if they didn't absolutely have too? What female, in her right mind, would rather suck someone's discussing, filthy ass dick for $20-$60 dollars, when there is an opportunity for a better prospect out there?

I am deeply in love with Lauren and I am fairly certain she is as in love with me. Would I be upset if she was a no show…probably not? Would she? I doubt it. LOL

CookyJar.

WhenWhen
04-28-19, 23:50
Good luck Cooky. I hope you find her. If you do, I hope youll let us know. I kinda feel that way about Julia. Wow. She's a knockout.


I anyone know Lauren please speak-up. She is my current favorite. I would love to see her one more time. If possible.

WTF. I've said it once and I said it a thousand times. If you come to this hobby looking for Mrs. Right, you are going to end up being disappointed. If you come to it (this hobby) with just a little commonsense, if you are lucky, you just may leave with your senses intact.

What half-ass intelligent person would rather suck some stranger's dick if they didn't absolutely have too? What female, in her right mind, would rather suck someone's discussing, filthy ass dick for $20-$60 dollars, when there is an opportunity for a better prospect out there?

I am deeply in love with Lauren and I am fairly certain she is as in love with me. Would I be upset if she was a no showprobably not? Would she? I doubt it. LOL

CookyJar.

CookyJar
05-01-19, 11:01
Good luck Cooky. I hope you find her. If you do, I hope youll let us know. I kinda feel that way about Julia. Wow. She's a knockout.We all have our favorites. Our favorite girl and our favorite date with that girl. Lauren is my current favorite girl and our last (and only) date was my favorite. And therein lay the rub. Lauren is a streetwalker. How do you meet streetwalkers? By happenstance! Chance! The roll of the die! Just when you find one you like, you lose her.

With any luck I will bump into Lauren again, someday. Until then, she lives in my memory as my favorite.

CookyJar.

Intelius
05-02-19, 15:33
CJ great report as always. Love her back, those broad hips are asking for a hard pounding!

Old School 62
05-12-19, 01:22
Pit-stopped in Phili Thurday evening around 10:00 pm Arrive on Kensington ave. And cruised the 3500 block for approximately 2. 5 hours. No Maylea, no Jordan. The circus was certainly in full force though. Tioga station, Somerset station, etc. Was a Zoo full of zombies and sk_ _ks. Health department was out sanitizing one side of Somerset station. Took a break at the DD. Resumed the hunt and asked a couple of ladies if they knew Maylea and / or Jordan. One knew both. Was kind enough to go look for them near Somerset. She returned about 15 minutes later. No dice. She did not ask me for a "search" donation but I gave her $5 for the effort. Asked another provider to look and was very aggressive with me. Demanded money from me before she would even look and I said no. She got angry, started the whole drama thing and I drove off. She chased my car down the block. Got stuck at a red light and I see her still running towards me with something in her hand (probably a bottle to chuck at my car). Had to blow the red light to get away from her. Headed home. I'm done with Phili unless I have digits. The condition of the roads is treacherous as well; nearly blew-out my front-end suspension hitting those darn pot holes. Thank you though Gator for trying to help.

Old School.

Davey1965
05-12-19, 07:24
Pit-stopped in Phili Thurday evening around 10:00 pm Arrive on Kensington ave. And cruised the 3500 block for approximately 2. 5 hours. No Maylea, no Jordan. The circus was certainly in full force though. Tioga station, Somerset station, etc. Was a Zoo full of zombies and sk_ _ks. Health department was out sanitizing one side of Somerset station. Took a break at the DD. Resumed the hunt and asked a couple of ladies if they knew Maylea and / or Jordan. One knew both. Was kind enough to go look for them near Somerset. She returned about 15 minutes later. No dice. She did not ask me for a "search" donation but I gave her $5 for the effort. Asked another provider to look and was very aggressive with me. Demanded money from me before she would even look and I said no. She got angry, started the whole drama thing and I drove off. She chased my car down the block. Got stuck at a red light and I see her still running towards me with something in her hand (probably a bottle to chuck at my car). Had to blow the red light to get away from her. Headed home. I'm done with Phili unless I have digits. The condition of the roads is treacherous as well; nearly blew-out my front-end suspension hitting those darn pot holes. Thank you though Gator for trying to help.



Old School.Sounds like you had a great time. Where else could you have that much fun for only $5. 00 !

JohnTheMan
05-14-19, 05:36
Hello gents! Any idea who this might be? I spotted her Sunday morning in the area of the K & Sergeant St. Area.

CookyJar
05-30-19, 09:08
Cookyjar- I just wanted to check in and make sure you are doing well. I have not seen you post in a while. I live vicariously through you and it is quite exciting.
Be safe and I look forward to seeing you post soon.
Xxx Xxx XxxxxxxxxxxxxxIn a post earlier this year I stated that I would be slowing down. I've got other stuff, personal stuff to do. Also, I've been a little disappointed with the lack of contributions from other members. Contrary to popular belief, there are many girls out and about on the avenue and there are plenty of guys dating them. Perhaps, not every guy knows about USASG, but from those that do there are few reviews. Fair exchange is no robbery. USASexGuide is a forum for the exchange of information. IMHO, the exchange of information is one sided.

CookyJar.

Gator145
05-30-19, 09:16
Hello gents! Any idea who this might be? I spotted her Sunday morning in the area of the K & Sergeant St. Area.My best guess is that looks a lot like Jordan. Currently only working during the day. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Gator145
05-30-19, 10:23
In a post earlier this year I stated that I would be slowing down. I've got other stuff, personal stuff to do. Also, I've been a little disappointed with the lack of contributions from other members. Contrary to popular belief, there are many girls out and about on the avenue and there are plenty of guys dating them. Perhaps, not every guy knows about USASG, but from those that do there are few reviews. Fair exchange is no robbery. USASexGuide is a forum for the exchange of information. IMHO, the exchange of information is one sided.

CookyJar.Great to see you are active again. I agree with you about the lack of contribution. It seems it's the same pros over and over contributing. And without them, this site would most definitely fall on its face. Not for lack of trying.

Post a hot girl and then you have all the creepy lurkers, hat and trenchcoats, 5 post deviates, coming from the woodwork wanting her contact info. Let's say you are in a good mood and give it to them. Then they slip back into the dark corner they crawl out of and you never hear from them again. They don't even have the courtesy to write a review. WTF? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Strange
05-30-19, 11:15
In a post earlier this year I stated that I would be slowing down. I've got other stuff, personal stuff to do. Also, I've been a little disappointed with the lack of contributions from other members. Contrary to popular belief, there are many girls out and about on the avenue and there are plenty of guys dating them. Perhaps, not every guy knows about USASG, but from those that do there are few reviews. Fair exchange is no robbery. USASexGuide is a forum for the exchange of information. IMHO, the exchange of information is one sided.

CookyJar.Feel the same, the Wilmington Streetwalker board is no different. Lots guys commenting on the reviews but not many reviews. I'm just hoping I'll inspire someone else to start posting reviews. I think contributors are kinda like the girls on the street. The number of them, and the quality, seem to ebb and flow. Just waiting for the flow to start again.

PartyTimeGuy
05-30-19, 12:41
In a post earlier this year I stated that I would be slowing down. I've got other stuff, personal stuff to do. Also, I've been a little disappointed with the lack of contributions from other members. Contrary to popular belief, there are many girls out and about on the avenue and there are plenty of guys dating them. Perhaps, not every guy knows about USASG, but from those that do there are few reviews. Fair exchange is no robbery. USASexGuide is a forum for the exchange of information. IMHO, the exchange of information is one sided.

CookyJar.I do not post much to the SW threads because my game is primarily SBs but I have always admired the sheer volume of your contributions. As for myself, I have long given up hoping for a fair exchange of information on this board. My philosophy has evolved into treating this forum more like a personal blog than a sharing of information. The 80/20 rule applies in most things but on here it is more like 95/5: 5% of the members supply 95% of the information. Where photos are concerned the rule of thumb is more like 99/1.

PartyTimeGuy
05-30-19, 21:48
Post a hot girl and then you have all the creepy lurkers, hat and trenchcoats, 5 post deviates, coming from the woodwork wanting her contact info. Let's say you are in a good mood and give it to them. Then they slip back into the dark corner they crawl out of and you never hear from them again. They don't even have the courtesy to write a review. WTF? Nothing good ever came from my privately sharing contact information with anyone on this Board whether a newbie or a veteran. At best, you never hear from them again and there is no reciprocity. At worst you get fucked up the ass in ways you couldn't have expected. I will stick with posting as one would in a blog: for the personal enjoyment of sharing and discussion on a subject of mutual interest.

Rub101
05-31-19, 07:35
In a post earlier this year I stated that I would be slowing down. I've got other stuff, personal stuff to do. Also, I've been a little disappointed with the lack of contributions from other members. Contrary to popular belief, there are many girls out and about on the avenue and there are plenty of guys dating them. Perhaps, not every guy knows about USASG, but from those that do there are few reviews. Fair exchange is no robbery. USASexGuide is a forum for the exchange of information. IMHO, the exchange of information is one sided.

CookyJar.Its so easy to look and enjoy others work, fully understand.

CookyJar
05-31-19, 10:00
I will stick with posting as one would in a blog: for the personal enjoyment of sharing and discussion on a subject of mutual interest.Even that portion has recently come up short. Gods knows I've tried.

Back in the day, when this forum was the bomb, it was not unusually to have discussions that went on for days. Guys would chip in their opinions and keep the discussions going for pages and pages. For my part, to keep this thread relevant, along with the pictures, I have quizzed, gamed and enticed trying to motivated responds and get discussions going. (I still continue to get PMs that could easily serve the forum better if they were posted in the open forum.) I am at the point of giving up. I am not giving up on mongering or photography, but I no longer feel an obligation to rush and share.

Her name is Tobi. She sometimes hangs out around the Huntingdon area. Regrettably, after the photo session, Tobi decided to end our date. This does not happen often, but it does happen. Sometime a girl will opt to be satisfied with a small compensation rather than venturing on to perform an act some people think of as gross. When this happens, I accept it for what it is: Fair exchange is no robbery.

I do have it on good authority that Tobi can be a good date, especially when she is not in need.

CookyJar.

JNimble
06-03-19, 07:27
I used to visit Philly, pursue our mutual dreams, and post regularly; I haven't been back to Philly in about 2 years now but still stop by your thread to enjoy your fabulous, thoughtful, and artful posts. You're appreciated by many even if they don't post!

Over 5,000 posts, many of them at the very top level of this game? You're a legend if not a god. Thanks for what you do!

Jack.


Even that portion has recently come up short. Gods knows I've tried.

Back in the day, when this forum was the bomb, it was not unusually to have discussions that went on for days. Guys would chip in their opinions and keep the discussions going for pages and pages. For my part, to keep this thread relevant, along with the pictures, I have quizzed, gamed and enticed trying to motivated responds and get discussions going. (I still continue to get PMs that could easily serve the forum better if they were posted in the open forum.) I am at the point of giving up. I am not giving up on mongering or photography, but I no longer feel an obligation to rush and share.

Her name is Tobi. She sometimes hangs out around the Huntingdon area. Regrettably, after the photo session, Tobi decided to end our date. This does not happen often, but it does happen. Sometime a girl will opt to be satisfied with a small compensation rather than venturing on to perform an act some people think of as gross. When this happens, I accept it for what it is: Fair exchange is no robbery.

I do have it on good authority that Tobi can be a good date, especially when she is not in need.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
06-03-19, 11:38
I used to visit Philly, pursue our mutual dreams, and post regularly; I haven't been back to Philly in about 2 years now but still stop by your thread to enjoy your fabulous, thoughtful, and artful posts. You're appreciated by many even if they don't post!

Over 5,000 posts, many of them at the very top level of this game? You're a legend if not a god. Thanks for what you do!

Jack.Trust me! I appreciate the love. I do enjoy the picture taking. I enjoy the posting. What I miss is the entertainment of reading the comments and discussions.

Take Tobi's pictures for example. She's been around for awhile and she knows about the USASG forum. Where are the comments? She didn't preform for me. Surely, someone out there knows her and could contribute some information.

CookyJar.

Davey1965
06-05-19, 07:54
Trust me! I appreciate the love. I do enjoy the picture taking. I enjoy the posting. What I miss is the entertainment of reading the comments and discussions.

Take Tobi's pictures for example. She's been around for awhile and she knows about the USASG forum. Where are the comments? She didn't preform for me. Surely, someone out there knows her and could contribute some information.

CookyJar.Hey CJ, you are so dead on about people contributing. I've been out of the loop for awhile here but starting to read the board again there just isn't feedback like there used to be. Also I recently posted a review on Jordan whom you posted pics of. Most of the PM's I received could have been posted on the forum. Also most of the PM's come from people with zero to almost no posting history. If they would post on the board instead of PM'ing maybe they would start building up a bit of cred on this board.

On another note I have done a few passes on the K the last couple months getting my "sea legs" back and will have to say the level of SW'ers out there and the amount of mongers picking them up has not gone down. So my thought is it's probably the same people picking up girls, not reviewing or mentioning with zero posts wanting info on PM's. My question to these guys is what are you afraid of?

One other mention there is a member/wannabe imposter going by Cookyjarr seeking info. Sorry Cookyjarr, but you didn't fool me at there is really only one Cookyjar and he only has one "are". Thanks for keeping this Philly board on its feet CJ.

LuvEmSmall
06-06-19, 08:21
Not 100% sure but, you look through the forum and I don't think you will find another board with the name of a member ANYWHERE.

The man is a ledgend.

I am too frightened to cruise the K, out of state-Jersey, nice truck, stick out like a sore thumb probably.

I frequent the AMP scene more, well almost exclusively. I do venture to the clubs from time to time.

CJ I love your posts, they are informative. Your girls most are sexy some are stunning. Like you I prefer them built for speed, thin is in!

Luv the tiny tits on most of them. My problem, I love to DATY and the K girls. Well ehhh maybe not so much. So I kinda stick to the AMP's.

CJ a big THANK YOU.

Plicker2
06-06-19, 15:06
Trust me! I appreciate the love. I do enjoy the picture taking. I enjoy the posting. What I miss is the entertainment of reading the comments and discussions.

Take Tobi's pictures for example. She's been around for awhile and she knows about the USASG forum. Where are the comments? She didn't preform for me. Surely, someone out there knows her and could contribute some information.

CookyJar.I know this account has low post count and I've been called out as a newb already for it. But I retired my old account when I left the game for about 6 years. You actually know me CJ though I won't give my old handle me and you have PMed in the past. I used to post a lot give reviews and comments and when people asked for information I gave it to them. Once I gave a pretty regular posting member information for a girl because he asked for it. When he posted about a girl I asked him if I could have her digits and he says I don't know if I can. I told him don't you remember I'm the guy that gave you the number for so and so. He never replied. That's when I started getting an attitude about sharing information.

OldManMass
06-06-19, 15:33
Not 100% sure but, you look through the forum and I don't think you will find another board with the name of a member ANYWHERE.

The man is a ledgend.

CJ a big THANK YOU.My area is small, just a 2. 3 mile loop, the choices and slim and get worse from there. I certainly live vicariously though Cookie Jar and appreciate all you do.

Thanks.

Old Man Mass.

HollywoodGuy
06-06-19, 16:21
The problem lies with the men who are trying to redefine a relationship that has existed since the beginning of time. The sugar daddy is attempting to buy and own something that at the very best, he can only rent.

Personally, I have never understood the concept of Sugar Daddy and Sugar Baby. How does the male benefit in the Sugar Daddy, Sugar Baby relationship? There is no legal, binding contract. It is the female who sets the rules, make the demands and regulates the terms. Other than those cases where both parties agree to a non-sexual relationship, how does the Sugar baby / Sugar Daddy relationship differ from the monger / escort relationship? Am I mistaken or cannot the young lady who advertises for a Sugar Daddy, continue to seek out additional Sugar daddies and accept whatever offer or offers that benefits her best?

Whether CraigsList, BackPage and whatever the current internet website is, it is all just Pay to Play. What is the difference between a Call Girl, Escort, Sugar Baby and Streetwalker? Judging from the many complaints that I have read on this site, the only difference that I have been able to determine is money.

JMHO!

CookyJar.Paragraph 1 - I totally agree and think most SD's get over that concept of owning pretty fast. The first girl or 2 or 3 they may think they can have some exclusivity, but unless they are living with the girl, it's not likely. I have lived with exclusive and non-exclusive girls.

Paragraph 2 - There can be differences but the experiences are all over the map. The female does not always set the rules, make the demands and regulate the terms. The trick is to let them do that to everyone but you. Not easy but it happens from time to time. I can usually ferret out one good girl a year. The real keepers. Let the other SD's foot the bill. I have not dated enough escorts to know all the dynamics. But I have been the designated BF to a few SB's. More like a civi dating relationship.

Paragraph 3 - You are correct that it is all P2 P. The difference is in how much you are paying and for how much time you are spending. I am sure a good SB experience is similar to some good high end Escort dates (multiple hours, overnites, lots of good times and laughter with a genuinely hot and polished girl). Also as far as the actual sex. A good escort will provide most any role play or sex act with conviction, it's their job. But the right SB will do it because it's their fantasy. These are all nuanced experiences and I am not looking to stir the pot or start a yuge discussion about it. Just my 2 cents. And BTW I am a follower and admirer of your thread.

PartyTimeGuy
06-07-19, 04:33
Paragraph 1 - I totally agree and think most SD's get over that concept of owning pretty fast. The first girl or 2 or 3 they may think they can have some exclusivity, but unless they are living with the girl, it's not likely. I have lived with exclusive and non-exclusive girls.IMHO the concepts of ownership of or exclusivity with a SB are in the minds of the SDs not reality. You don't even "own" a live-in gf when you pay all her bills. If you think you do you may be delusional. Exclusive? Any girl who gets paid to play is a rent-only deal. You may be the only guy she plays with, but that fact can change in a heartbeat. She might even be a first-timer, but any girl who gets paid to play exclusively with you will eventually seek to get paid to play elsewhere.


Paragraph 2 - There can be differences but the experiences are all over the map. The female does not always set the rules, make the demands and regulate the terms. The trick is to let them do that to everyone but you. Not easy but it happens from time to time. I can usually ferret out one good girl a year. The real keepers. Let the other SD's foot the bill. I have not dated enough escorts to know all the dynamics. But I have been the designated BF to a few SB's. More like a civi dating relationship.For me it is never like dating. I have no illusions of exclusivity. It is a business arrangement and all decision-making rests with the CEO: me. I understand she may need to be wooed and charmed into the deal, but, after the deal is set, I make the rules. The only leeway I give her is in negotiating the ongoing financial arrangement up front. If she wants to later change that or anything else it is my option, not hers. If she doesn't like that she is gone. There are plenty more SBs where she came from.


Paragraph 3 - You are correct that it is all P2 P. The difference is in how much you are paying and for how much time you are spending. I am sure a good SB experience is similar to some good high end Escort dates (multiple hours, overnites, lots of good times and laughter with a genuinely hot and polished girl). Also as far as the actual sex. A good escort will provide most any role play or sex act with conviction, it's their job. But the right SB will do it because it's their fantasy. These are all nuanced experiences and I am not looking to stir the pot or start a yuge discussion about it. Just my 2 cents. And BTW I am a follower and admirer of your thread.A SB is a unique kind of escort. Ideally she is likeable and someone you enjoy spending time with in and out of bed, but even that isn't necessary. If she fulfills your needs, whatever they may be, then what you are paying her is worth it to you. My criteria are that she either be young and extremely attractive and / or makes up for that with my complete sensual and sexual satisfaction. Average -looking girls and MILFs are fine if they deliver what I want. Clean, excellent hygiene. Drug-free (you can't guarantee that but if I see a hint of drug use she is gone). Reachable. Reliable. Repeatable. Great attitude. Total GFE. When I tire of her, which is a given no matter how pretty or sensually and sexually satisfying, then I will let the thing die on its own. Eventually I won't contact her at all, or maybe I will get an itch for her particular scratch later and give it a go again for old times sake. Regardless, all the decisions are mine and if she doesn't like that she's history. If I wanted drama I would date a civvie.

CookyJar
06-07-19, 22:22
Am I mistaken or cannot the young lady who advertises for a Sugar Daddy, continue to seek out additional Sugar daddies and accept whatever offer or offers that benefits her best?

CookyJar.What's the definitive definition for a Sugar Baby? How does a Sugar Baby differ from an escort?

CookyJar.

CookyJar
06-07-19, 22:42
What's the definitive definition for a Sugar Baby? How does a Sugar Baby differ from an escort?

CookyJar.I'm familiar with term, Sugar Daddy. Sugar Daddies have been around for decades.



According to the most widespread legend, back in 1908, a man named Adolph Spreckels who was the son of Claus Spreckels, the owner of Spreckels Sugar Company, married a rather attractive woman Alma, who was 24 years younger. Since Spreckels ran a successful sugar company and was a lot older than Alma, she reportedly liked to call him Sugar Daddy.

Id rather be an old mans darling than a young mans slave, Alma used to say.

However, it took about 10 to 20 years for this cute expression to catch on. Officially, the first ever recorded use of Sugar Daddy dates to 1923, while some manifestations claim the term occurred somewhere between 1915 and 1920. During this period, the phrase was used as a slang term for an older man who gives money or gifts to an attractive younger woman in exchange for companionship or intimacy.The term, "Sugar Baby," as it's being used today seems to refer to a women who advertises on a particular internet website.

IMHO, the definition for a Sugar Baby is extremely vague. Almost any female who accepts money from a man could be considered a Sugar Baby.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
06-07-19, 23:30
...The term, "Sugar Baby," as it's being used today seems to refer to a women who advertises on a particular internet website.

IMHO, the definition for a Sugar Baby is extremely vague. Almost any female who accepts money from a man could be considered a Sugar Baby.

CookyJar.Consider this scenario. While working Kensington Avenue, a very pretty young female meets an older gentleman. This older gentlemen takes her home to his house and bangs the shyt out of her. This older gentleman likes her so much, he decide to sponsor her completely. He not only give her money, he pays for her food, clothing, finds her an apartment and gives her spending money. Question: Is she a streetwalker, escort or sugar baby?

CookyJar.

Bob1345
06-08-19, 03:16
Consider this scenario. While working Kensington Avenue, a very pretty young female meets an older gentleman. This older gentlemen takes her home to his house and bangs the shyt out of her. This older gentleman likes her so much, he decide to sponsor her completely. He not only give her money, he pays for her food, clothing, finds her an apartment and gives her spending money. Question: Is she a streetwalker, escort or sugar baby?

CookyJar.I would say she just went from streetwalk to sugar baby because her sugar daddy just converted her.

PartyTimeGuy
06-08-19, 08:13
Consider this scenario. While working Kensington Avenue, a very pretty young female meets an older gentleman. This older gentlemen takes her home to his house and bangs the shyt out of her. This older gentleman likes her so much, he decide to sponsor her completely. He not only give her money, he pays for her food, clothing, finds her an apartment and gives her spending money. Question: Is she a streetwalker, escort or sugar baby?

CookyJar.A girl is to a guy what he says she is, but there are generally acceptable definitions for different kinds of financial arrangements for sex. A girl is obviously a SW to a guy if he picked her up on the street. A girl is usually an escort to a guy if she was available by appointment. A girl is usually a SB to a guy if she was amateur-like (whether real or acted), GFE and repeatable on a regular basis. The same girl could be all of these things to different guys. What she is to a guy depends upon how he initiated the transaction and the nature of that transaction.

Standards vary, but, for me, a SB must meet certain minimum conditions beyond being amateur-like, GFE and repeatable. She must be clean, drug-free, reachable by phone, punctual, reliable, sensually and sexually responsive and have an attitude which meets with my approval. A girl might start her first date with me with my hopes of her becoming a SB, but if she is missing any of my necessary conditions, then she isn't going to be my SB. While I am sure it may be possible: in hundreds of transactions, I have never ever picked up a SW or hired an escort who later became a SB. On the other hand, I have had hundreds of SBs, and every single one I recruited to be a SB from the start. Therefore, to me, what is a SB versus any other type of pay to play relationship is quite crystal-clear.

CookyJar
06-08-19, 12:26
I would say she just went from streetwalk to sugar baby because her sugar daddy just converted her.So at her basics, a Sugar Baby is a kept women. That's the definition that I am most familiar with. By that definition, any type of female can present herself as a Sugar Baby. There is no regulatory group that controls the conditions under which a woman can be categorized as a Sugar Baby. The is no standard.

CookyJar.

PartyTimeGuy
06-08-19, 15:24
So at her basics, a Sugar Baby is a kept women. That's the definition that I am most familiar with. By that definition, any type of female can present herself as a Sugar Baby. There is no regulatory group that controls the conditions under which a woman can be categorized as a Sugar Baby. The is no standard.

CookyJar.

No, a SB is not necessarily a kept woman. I have had hundreds of SBs and none of them were "kept." And, no, not every woman can present herself as a SB. And no "regulatory group" or "standards" are needed to do so. The "debate" you have fostered regarding whether a girl is a SW, Escort or SB is clearly tongue-in-cheek on your part to spark some discussion. You are a smart guy and you know that these delineations exist. There are hundreds of mongers on here who have no trouble deciding which is which and post their experiences and reviews in what they perceive to be the right categories, despite the fact that these categories are subjective and lack precisely defined parameters. You may think all girls who get paid for sex are all the same and the categories do not matter. The hundreds of varying threads on here for SWs, Escorts and SBs would beg to differ with your view. As for me, deciding whether a girl is a SB or not is a lot like deciding whether something is "obscene. " As Justice Stewart so elegantly put it way back in 1964: "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced as 'hard-core pornography', and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it." That would apply similarly to SBs. I have had hundreds of them. I have also have had hundreds of SWs and escorts. I know the difference. I have tried to intelligibly cite these differences: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5406-CookyJar-s-Streetwalker-Photos&p=4309447#post4309447 But the basic fact is that I know a SB when I experience one.

CookyJar
06-08-19, 19:45
Ashley is not a Sugarbaby. Perhaps she could be, for someone, someday who knows. I am posting her pictures here in order to draw some attention to the conversation below and maybe encourage some others to join in the discussion.


A girl is to a guy what he says she is, but there are generally acceptable definitions for different kinds of financial arrangements for sex. A girl is obviously a SW to a guy if he picked her up on the street. A girl is usually an escort to a guy if she was available by appointment. A girl is usually a SB to a guy if she was amateur-like (whether real or acted), GFE and repeatable on a regular basis. The same girl could be all of these things to different guys. What she is to a guy depends upon how he initiated the transaction and the nature of that transaction.If I ask about a girl, who will have anal sex with me, most people will understand what I am talking about. If I ask about a BBW, most people would understand. The same thing goes for the terms, Blow Job, Doggie style or full service. These are terms that are easily explained, universally defined and universally understood. Likewise, the whole world knows what is meant by, "A Streetwalker. " And! Just about everyone knows about, "Escorts and Call Girls. " However! The modern reference to a, "Sugar Baby," as is derive from Sugar Babies websites are vague. The term, "Sugar Baby," as it is currently being used, started out as an advertisement strategy. It was meant to be ambiguous.

In reality, when it comes to sex, there are but two types of women. There are those who give it away, for free and with no monetary charge. And! There are women who charge / sell it for monetary profit. That is it; that is all there is. However, within in both groups there are categories. A woman who gives it away, for free, to any and everybody is called a S!ut or Wh0re. A woman who sells it to any and everybody who is willing to pay for it is called a prostitute. Victorian age moralist have tried to intermingle all inappropriate sexual deeds by referring to all fallen women, whether they sell it or give it away, as wh0res or sluts. These days referring to modern day prostitutes, streetwalkers, call girls, escorts and any female who sells her body as a s!ut or wh0re is acceptable. Historically, the common prostitute was considered a step above the common s!ut and the common s!ut was considered a step beneath the common prostitute. That was societies point of view. From the female point of view, both the prostitute and s!ut were undesirable positions.

From the male point of view, until recently, it was equally as satisfying to fuck sluts or prostitutes. Fucking willing, available sluts were and are the cheaper option. However, finding a good s!ut who is willing to fuck just anybody is way harder than finding a cheap prostitute, who is willing to fuck anybody for cash. There is no modern day, Victorian term for males who fuck sluts. A man who fucks sluts (women who give it away) is considered, just your average everyday man. There is a destination for men who fuck prostitutes. Men who fuck prostitutes (women who sell their bodies for money) are designated as johns. The term, "john," is a common but undesirable position. Most johns are content to hide the fact that they pay to play. On the other hand, most men who fuck sluts regularly are often proud to brag about they exploits to both friends and family. Being a male-wh0re, especially in certain younger societal groups, is welcomed by both sexes. Consider the big-man on campus phenomena. A man, who is able to fuck a lot of different women, for free, is often held in high esteem. A man who has to pay for sex is more often than not considered some kind of a pervert.

This brings us to this question. Which, among men, is seen as the most desirable position? Which is the most admired, among johns? Among your average male, which among societies point of view, is the better; the monger who fucks streetwalkers, the monger who dates escorts or call girls or the guy who patronizes sugar babies, exquisitely.

This is the premise on which the entire Sugar baby website and concept was and is based on. Sugar Babies are little more than repurposed call girls, escorts, streetwalkers and prostitutes. Despite the name change, a rose by any other name is still a rose.

A few years back, some internet site developer came upon a concept to refill a void. The void that was left by what was once called, "Call Girls and Escorts Websites. " There was actually very little difference between Call Girls and Escorts, however; for some reason an escort was viewed as the better position for a female. Even though they did the same thing, most females would rather be called an escort. (No female in her right mind wants to be called a streetwalker or prostitute.) Before there was BackPage, a good call girl might have her own webpage and demand between $300. And $500. Her prices varied with her looks and what she was willing to provide. The price for a good escort ranged between $500, $1000 and $5000. A deal / date with a $5000 dollar escort might not include sex. An escort could mean just that, someone who escorted you or traveled with you as a companion. The original concept on the sugar baby website allotted for a similar position. Originally, not all sugar babies had to provide sexual favors. Originally, on the original website, few college students advertised for sugar daddies. The original website as it was depicted on TV's, "Good Morning America," was portrayed as a website for women, of all ages and positions, who were seeking men to provide for them and who were not necessarily sex workers.

From what I can tell, from today information, a sugar baby is any girl who can ask for and get a higher than average price for her wares. IMHO, a Sugar Baby is just another name for call girl or escort.


for me, a SB must meet certain minimum conditions beyond being amateur-like, GFE and repeatable. She must be clean, drug-free, reachable by phone, punctual, reliable, sensually and sexually responsive and have an attitude which meets with my approvalIf I can find a streetwalker who is clean, drug-free, and reachable by phone, punctual, reliable, sensually and sexually responsive and has an attitude which meets with your approval, for you, she would be considered a, Sugar baby. Am I right? Your first response might be to say that such a girl does not exist. I would counter with; that is your ego speaking. You have probably already dated and been fooled by such a girl. To say that you are beyond being taken in by a pretty face and a clever girl is at the upmost limits of denial.


I have had hundreds of SBs, and every single one I recruited to be a SB from the start. Therefore, to me, what is a SB versus any other type of pay to play relationship is quite crystal-clear.How can you be absolutely, one hundred percent sure, beyond a shadow of doubt; without knowing the complete history of all of the hundreds of sugar babies that you have dated? How can you be so sure that not one of them has lied to you about her past? According to your standards, of the hundreds of sugar babies, you have dated, not one of them in their entire life, has ever been late, has always been reliable, always been freshly bathed, never lost a phone, has always been ready for sex, has never had a mood swing and in their entire life has never experimented with any form of drug unbelievable, by today's standards. Of the hundreds, none ever smoked a joint?

Yours seems to be more of a description, rather than a definition. You seem to be describing what you like in a woman. Technically, I could say the exact same thing about a regular streetwalker. What is the difference from my saying, in order for me to see a streetwalker on a regular basics, she has to be clean, drug-free, and reachable by phone, punctual, reliable, sensually and sexually responsive and has an attitude which meets with my approval. If they fail in any one of these attributes, I will not see them regularly.

You have not giving a definition that others may use in their search for a sugar baby.

CookyJar.

P.S: Google Sugar Babies on Good Morning America for a interesting interview. Check out the video that follows the GMA interview.

CookyJar
06-08-19, 20:14
Try copy and paste:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sugar+babies+on+good+morning+america&&view=detail&mid=
46585C40F0CAD36F230346585C40F0CAD36F2303&rvsmid=
877A3738383DE56EF1B9877A3738383DE56EF1B9&FORM=VDQVAP


Or try searching for: HOW TO GET A SUGA DADDY ! Highly requested!! on YouTube.


CookyJar.

TrojanHorsey
06-08-19, 20:29
There are only 2 kinds of women:

Your wife.

Not your wife (which means everybody else).

And trust me, you paid for all of them LOL.

PartyTimeGuy
06-09-19, 03:04
There are only 2 kinds of women:

Your wife.

Not your wife (which means everybody else).

And trust me, you paid for all of them LOL.I like your logic. I will add that the most expensive pussy you will ever have is the pussy you get for "free. " You pay for it in spades either in drama or, if you make it legally "free" pussy, drama plus most of your income and probably eventually half your stuff.

PartyTimeGuy
06-09-19, 03:45
Ashley is not a Sugarbaby. Perhaps she could be, for someone, someday who knows. I am posting her pictures here in order to draw some attention to the conversation below and maybe encourage some others to join in the discussion.We both have strong, intractable and opposite points of view about this subject, strongly rooted in experience. That fact is not likely to change with endless discussion. And it would appear that this subject is not of much interest to others. Therefore, I look forward to seeing if others can add any interesting perspectives.

I do agree with your strategy. Pics seem to draw much more attention in here than words. LOL

You say Ashley is NOT a SB. Here is a girl who IS a SB. Maybe between the two of us we can draw some attention to the discussion.

DotComm
06-09-19, 05:37
Isn't there a "Philly Sugar" section on this forum? How about using it?

Lance547
06-09-19, 12:08
There are only 2 kinds of women:

Your wife.

Not your wife (which means everybody else).

And trust me, you paid for all of them LOL.In my earlier days I use to read a lot of books and use to read books by Iceburg Slim and other books written by rare and underground street guys from the 80's. Anyway, one book I read said a wife and keeping her is the most expensive woman of them all. Don't believe me just look here and read the real life stories: https://forum.mensdivorce.com/index.php?sid=2181962477d5a3aaab98387cfd4e2c75.

And the thing with a wife is just because she's married to you that doesn't mean that she will be faithful.

Lance547
06-09-19, 16:53
In reality, when it comes to sex, there are but two types of women. There are those who give it away, for free and with no monetary charge. And! There are women who charge / sell it for monetary profit. That is it; that is all there is. However, within in both groups there are categories. A woman who gives it away, for free, to any and everybody is called a S!ut or Wh0re. A woman who sells it to any and everybody who is willing to pay for it is called a prostitute. Victorian age moralist have tried to intermingle all inappropriate sexual deeds by referring to all fallen women, whether they sell it or give it away, as wh0res or sluts. These days referring to modern day prostitutes, streetwalkers, call girls, escorts and any female who sells her body as a s!ut or wh0re is acceptable. Historically, the common prostitute was considered a step above the common s!ut and the common s!ut was considered a step beneath the common prostitute. That was societies point of view. From the female point of view, both the prostitute and s!ut were undesirable positions.

From the male point of view, until recently, it was equally as satisfying to fuck sluts or prostitutes. Fucking willing, available sluts were and are the cheaper option. However, finding a good s!ut who is willing to fuck just anybody is way harder than finding a cheap prostitute, who is willing to fuck anybody for cash. There is no modern day, Victorian term for males who fuck sluts. A man who fucks sluts (women who give it away) is considered, just your average everyday man. There is a destination for men who fuck prostitutes. Men who fuck prostitutes (women who sell their bodies for money) are designated as johns. The term, "john," is a common but undesirable position. Most johns are content to hide the fact that they pay to play. On the other hand, most men who fuck sluts regularly are often proud to brag about they exploits to both friends and family. Being a male-wh0re, especially in certain younger societal groups, is welcomed by both sexes. Consider the big-man on campus phenomena. A man, who is able to fuck a lot of different women, for free, is often held in high esteem. A man who has to pay for sex is more often than not considered some kind of a pervert.

This brings us to this question. Which, among men, is seen as the most desirable position? Which is the most admired, among johns? Among your average male, which among societies point of view, is the better; the monger who fucks streetwalkers, the monger who dates escorts or call girls or the guy who patronizes sugar babies, exquisitely.

.I respectfully disagree. No woman gives away free sex. When a woman decides to have sex with a man it's because in her mind she is getting something in return. Most young women are sexually attracted to men who have power over others and have high status. A buddy of mine is high up in the hospital staff and the stories he tells me of all the women who are after him. He's not even a doctor. There is always something being exchanged you just have to look for it.

As far as female prostitutes it's a misnomer that they sleep with everyone and anyone for the right price. Some prostitutes only sleep with their own race, some have age limits, if you're too aggressive or have bad hygiene or creepy behavior they won't see you. When I was in Amsterdam I was turned away from a few window girls I wanted to see and I also saw other men being turned away as well. Many people think prostitutes don't have a choice but they do. Yes, they have more casual contacts / encounters than any other kind of woman but even within their profession they still pick and choose who they will service unless their drug addiction consumes them.

Lastly, as far as the big man on campus and being a male * most of those guys are borderline rapist. I use to hang out with guys from the football team of a major west coast college and all these guys would do is invite women over and ply them with alcohol and wait until they were too drunk to be able to resist their sexual advances. I had nothing to do with that culture or lifestyle once I found out about it. All around this country there are many women so sadly went to a college house party or a nightclub thinking nothing of it and just wanting to have harmless fun only to wake up the next morning not knowing for sure what happened or if they actually consented to sex with the guy who is lying right next to them. Nothing to be proud of.

Noobalicious
06-09-19, 16:57
Ashley is not a Sugarbaby. Perhaps she could be, for someone, someday who knows. I am posting her pictures here in order to draw some attention to the conversation below and maybe encourage some others to join in the discussion.
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This brings us to this question. Which, among men, is seen as the most desirable position? Which is the most admired, among johns? Among your average male, which among societies point of view, is the better; the monger who fucks streetwalkers, the monger who dates escorts or call girls or the guy who patronizes sugar babies, exquisitely.

This is the premise on which the entire Sugar baby website and concept was and is based on. Sugar Babies are little more than repurposed call girls, escorts, streetwalkers and prostitutes. Despite the name change, a rose by any other name is still a rose.
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From what I can tell, from today information, a sugar baby is any girl who can ask for and get a higher than average price for her wares. IMHO, a Sugar Baby is just another name for call girl or escort.

If I can find a streetwalker who is clean, drug-free, and reachable by phone, punctual, reliable, sensually and sexually responsive and has an attitude which meets with your approval, for you, she would be considered a, Sugar baby. Am I right? ...I can't help with the definitions. I also don't know too much other than what I've found in various places on this site, or being schooled by my past experience.

I started out with "escorts" (at least that's what the websites were calling them), with higher prices and a hotel room available to do the deed. I never ventured into the $300 and up range of escorts, it just wasn't worth it to me. I eventually cruised some of the loops in my area, and had some fun with streetwalkers.

I eventually found a streetwalker that was reachable by phone, reliable, practiced good hygiene when the means were available to her, and after several encounters showed she wouldn't rip me off even when given the opportunity (because she understood the value of repeated visits she count count on).

Like a lot of SWers, she's got the boyfriend / husband / pimp who leaches off her earnings when he can. I suppose he's fulfilling some need for her because she keeps hanging with him even if she gripes about him most of the time. At best, I could call this girl a "friend" but the street has schooled me that I'm just "friendly money" to her, and there's no particular attachment on her part. I help her out on occasion over & above the tuition for the service performed. Mostly, I do that because it makes it easier for me to get her when I want, and because I can. 100% the boyfriend (and any of the folks in the neighborhood he talks to) calls me her "sugar daddy". 100% the boyfriend means that to be a negative comment, like she's getting over on me and getting paid more for the same service than she gets from others.

The boyfriend is right to a degree; being her "sugar daddy" is a negative if she's able to manipulate me into giving her what she wants when she wants without giving something in return. I do enjoy her company apart from the P2 P aspect, plus she is the type that is my exact preference (Like CJ's petite, tiny Vicki from a couple years ago, or Amanda from further back). I have a hard time finding her exact type whether on a website or on the street. And her P2 P performance is exactly what I want, every time.

So I get something out of it, and she gets something out of it. If she ever gets any "extra" compared to other dates, it's always at my discretion and always because I offered the extra. When she's tried to turn that around (like when she was on vacation with the state), it didn't work out like she hoped. I've gotten P2 P for similar outlay on my part, or more (for some escorts), or less (from some SWers). But I've never gotten "the same" experience from any of those others, much less "better".

So the boyfriend looks down on me. Maybe some in the neighborhood do too. Then again, both she & I are getting exactly what we bargained for, and it's working out for both of us. And CJ's words, "Fair exchange is no robbery," keeps repeating in my mind. I hope the girl, the boyfriend, and whoever else tells everyone in the neighborhood. If another girl pops up that scratches my itch just right, you can bet she will already know to take care of me so she gets taken care of.

(All that said, I know the going rates in my area, and never go above them except afterwards, and for exceptional performance. My one regular is an exception, but only slightly).

CookyJar
06-09-19, 21:59
... a wife and keeping her is the most expensive woman of them all...
And the thing with a wife is just because she's married to you that doesn't mean that she will be faithful.They cook, clean, and take care of the kids. What about the kids? No matter how you cut it, they are half yours. You played, so don't bytch about paying. After all, she got the worst part of that bargain, anyway. Forget about the nine months in which her body goes through a bunch of bullshit that I wouldn't agree to have my body go through for all the money in Fort Knox. And, what about that period thing? Bytches got it rough. What's their reward? She gets to marry an asshole who thinks he's god gift, cheats on her every chance he gets, and when he does join her in bed, he's trying to jam his dick up her ass, after watching too much porn. And! If we're talking about your average modern day women, after her womanly chores are done, just like you, she also has a nine to five job.

Personally, I like women. I don't talk bad about the people I like. I think that's been part of my success. IMHO, we men are the assholes.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
06-09-19, 22:28
So the boyfriend looks down on me. Maybe some in the neighborhood do too. Then again, both she & I are getting exactly what we bargained for, and it's working out for both of us. And CJ's words, "Fair exchange is no robbery," The boyfriend is an asshole, we've already determined that. No real man lives off of his women's pussy. So, fuck him and the horse he rode it on.

Do you and what works for you. In the end, that's all that's important. There are a few people in this world whose love and respect I'd like to have. However, if those few people can't love me and respect me for who I am. Fuck 'em. I wish them the best.

As long as you're enjoying your life. Don't sweat the petty stuff.

(Vicki was a keeper. We were like two ships passing in the night. I still look for her, but she's gone.).

CookyJar.

CookyJar
06-09-19, 23:15
...I look forward to seeing if others can add any interesting perspectives.

I do agree with your strategy. Pics seem to draw much more attention in here than words. LOL

You say Ashley is NOT a SB. Here is a girl who IS a SB. Maybe between the two of us we can draw some attention to the discussion.I am happy you've decided to post some of your picture in this thread. The Threads under the User Blogs blue line are often over looked.

I was given this thread by a pass Administrator, Jackson. I pointed out to Jackson, that supporting my own thread maybe something I did not want to do. I would be responsible for continually posting pictures with comments, providing substance and material, in order to keep the thread relevant. Since 2006 it's been my task to keep people interested and visiting the, "CookyJar Photo Thread. " It has been a chore. So! Whenever another member is willing to join in, post a few (or a lot) of pictures and add to the conversation, I say thank-you. Welcome aboard.

My name may be on the threat, but it is not my thread. The thread is for anyone who wants to join-in. The Admin is the monitor and I am the host. The Admin allows me to do pretty much what I want, within reason.

As long as we keep it positive, and no bullshit, the Admin is pretty understanding with whatever happens here.


Isn't there a "Philly Sugar" section on this forum? How about using it?We can talk about whatever the fvck we want. LOL.

CookyJar.

Farouk
06-09-19, 23:55
A woman I've known for a few years has had a sugar daddy for a few months, and she's explained their relationship to me recently. The guy has her set up in a decent apartment, internet on, phone, and an allowance. When he's not around, she pretty much does as she pleases, but she is always on call for him. He spends all that money to ensure he doesn't have to go find her, or wait. Right now it seems to work for both of them, so good for them right? It's more cash than I have (or care) to dispose of every month, but for some guys that's nothing.

PartyTimeGuy
06-10-19, 04:55
I am happy you've decided to post some of your picture in this thread. The Threads under the User Blogs blue line are often over looked.

I was given this thread by a pass Administrator, Jackson. I pointed out to Jackson, that supporting my own thread maybe something I did not want to do. I would be responsible for continually posting pictures with comments, providing substance and material, in order to keep the thread relevant. Since 2006 it's been my task to keep people interested and visiting the, "CookyJar Photo Thread. " It has been a chore. So! Whenever another member is willing to join in, post a few (or a lot) of pictures and add to the conversation, I say thank-you. Welcome aboard.

My name may be on the threat, but it is not my thread. The thread is for anyone who wants to join-in. The Admin is the monitor and I am the host. The Admin allows me to do pretty much what I want, within reason.

As long as we keep it positive, and no bullshit, the Admin is pretty understanding with whatever happens here.You are correct. The User Blogs below the blue line are overlooked. However, I have been hesitant to post my comments and pics anywhere else than the user blog sugar threads because "SBs" are what I currently focus on and many members tend to get their panties in a bunch when you post off the thread topic. I used to post in the sugar thread in Richmond because I technically still live there, although I am spending increasingly more time with my business ventures in the area between Richmond and NYC, and especially now in northern MD, DE, NJ and eastern PA. Most recently I have been posting mostly in the Philly Sugar thread, although my SBs are all over the place in the corridor from Richmond to NYC.

I appreciate your welcoming my posts and photos in your thread. I take a lot of photos but I was hesitant to post them here because the thread title is specific to SWs. While I have had more than my past share of SWs, including in Philly, I don't really pick up SWs any more. I recruit amateurs to have sex for money. The common term for that is "Sugar Baby" but on this forum that mostly means threads about finding sex on sugar sites. I used to use sugar sites but I have found it far more interesting and productive to recruit my pay-to-play amateur sex partners "in the wild. " I have written some commentary on this but this recent post sums up what I do: Recruiting SBs in the Wild What I do doesn't really have a 'category," but it sure is on point with what this forum is all about. So, if you don't mind my posting here, then that's terrific! However, you really ought to change the name of your thread,. My title above, that you suggested in your post, would be a good one.

Below are some of my recent posts of pic series for the photo lovers who read your thread:

Fabulous Foursome

Perfect Sugar

Meek, Mild and Wild

More Meek and Mild

SB Bunny

More Meek and Mild

A Taste

Hot Party Dress

The First Course

At The Fair

Naughty SB

Sex Slave SB

I look forward to posting here the future and joining the "pic party' on this thread.

Here is a pic to draw attention to this post. After all, pics are what this thread is all about.

Noobalicious
06-10-19, 21:32
We both have strong, intractable and opposite points of view about this subject, strongly rooted in experience. That fact is not likely to change with endless discussion. And it would appear that this subject is not of much interest to others. Therefore, I look forward to seeing if others can add any interesting perspectives. ...People read the comments, even if they are too timid to add their own. Hell, I'm not even in Philly but I know about this thread (and thanks to CJ for more than a decade of awesome photo material!) and have benefitted from the information shared here.


The boyfriend is an asshole, we've already determined that. No real man lives off of his women's pussy. So, fuck him and the horse he rode it on.

Do you and what works for you. In the end, that's all that's important. ...I hear ya! What's funny is one of the neighborhood pharmacists told her the same thing, that she should drop him cause they see him sitting doing nothing while she goes out & earns the money.

I'm not worried about the boyfriend, but wanted to share my story to point out that at least some in the neighborhood would judge a sugar daddy, just as "normal society" would just a streetwalker or escort or prostitute. That is, the sugar daddy is the guy that overpays for the same service, so he's a target to try to beat. It's worth knowing about that, even if you never try to be a sugar daddy to a SWer, just to understand they will ask over the going rate for their services, or see what they can get away with, or how little they can do and still get paid.

I don't know, but suspect non-street-walking sugar babies think the same way even if they don't put it in those terms. That is, they will try to extract as much as they possibly can from the sugar daddy. Like I said before, I don't really blame them, both the guys & the girls are trying to get the best deal, or the most for what they're providing in exchange.

Anyway, I don't worry about what the boyfriend thinks, and not even really what the neighborhood thinks. Partly from CJ's advice in this thread and partly because of who I am, I'm friendly with the SWers I don't date, have no problem giving them a free cigarette, or buying a girl a drink & some chips when she approaches me for a date but I'm not interested. The neighborhood guys will see this, think you're a sucker giving stuff for free, and will approach to ask for something with nothing in exchange.

Some of the girls (who aren't worth bothering with & usually don't give good service anyway) might do the same. But I've found a lot more of them appreciate it, remember you, and will help you out in return. Shit, I even had one such girl flag down a regular to give me a jump start when my battery was dead. Then leave him there to go do a date with me! No, that wasn't the plan when she got him to help me out, but it became the plan afterward. LOL!

Gator145
06-11-19, 10:00
Pit-stopped in Phili Thurday evening around 10:00 pm Arrive on Kensington ave. And cruised the 3500 block for approximately 2. 5 hours. No Maylea, no Jordan. The circus was certainly in full force though. Tioga station, Somerset station, etc. Was a Zoo full of zombies and sk_ _ks. Health department was out sanitizing one side of Somerset station. Took a break at the DD. Resumed the hunt and asked a couple of ladies if they knew Maylea and / or Jordan. One knew both. Was kind enough to go look for them near Somerset. She returned about 15 minutes later. No dice. She did not ask me for a "search" donation but I gave her $5 for the effort. Asked another provider to look and was very aggressive with me. Demanded money from me before she would even look and I said no. She got angry, started the whole drama thing and I drove off. She chased my car down the block. Got stuck at a red light and I see her still running towards me with something in her hand (probably a bottle to chuck at my car). Had to blow the red light to get away from her. Headed home. I'm done with Phili unless I have digits. The condition of the roads is treacherous as well; nearly blew-out my front-end suspension hitting those darn pot holes. Thank you though Gator for trying to help.

Old School.For all those that are interested. Yesterday I happened to notice Maylea working the area between Venango and Atlantic. This was roughly 6:30 - 7:00 pm. That has always been her spot of choice. Jordan had been frequenting the Jasper and Huntingdon area. Recently as yesterday, I did see her strolling Somerset to Orleans and back. Both Mylea and Jordan are out there and available for those that wish to meet with them. Most of the activity had slowed considerably because of the heavy downpours. Gabby was confining herself to the block between Clearfield and Orleans. There are a few overhangs that provide some shelter from the rain. So, if you keep your eyes peeled and are looking for these three they can be found with a little effort.

Danielle that had been robbing guys around Buckius and the Jasper and pike area is still working that area. She does bounce to Clearfield to grab supplies then it's back to the same 'ol same 'ol for her. So be careful if picking her up. She is trouble through and through.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

PartyTimeGuy
06-13-19, 22:39
I call her my librarian because I met her in a library and she looks like a librarian doesn't she? As one would expect she is quiet and submissive: does everything she is told. She likes to be quiet even during sex but, shades of "Groundhog Day," she makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets really excited. Hearing her breathlessly squeak as she bounces up and down on my cock is so perversely enjoyable. She is dutifully good without complaint for as long and for as many cups as I can manage. I love to fish hook her as I am doing her doggy. Some day I will get a tripod and catch that action as it happens.

Once I didn't have time to go to a hotel and we did it in the car like two teenagers. I reported on this a while back. I will dig out some extra photos from this and post them sometime. I never had so much fun in a car when I was actually a teenager. Some things actually do get better with age.

Life IS good my brothers.

CookyJar
06-14-19, 11:15
I call her my librarian because I met her in a library …
Life IS good my brothers.Should we assume that the librarian is a civilian / Sugar Baby and is not readily available to the average monger? If I wanted to meet her, is she listed on any sugar baby website? Is there contact information available?

Normally when I post a girls picture, the assumption is that she is a streetwalker and unless otherwise specified she can be found on Kensington Avenue. When posting more than one group of pictures I will sometime wait until the last group to give any contact location. I don't share phone numbers. I don't like PMs. I will share were I found the young lady in the open forum. I do this in order to help other mongers.

After- all, USASexGuide is in its essences an information sharing website.

CookyJar.

PartyTimeGuy
06-14-19, 14:05
Should we assume that the librarian is a civilian / Sugar Baby and is not readily available to the average monger? If I wanted to meet her, is she listed on any sugar baby website? Is there contact information available?.As I have previously explained, I don't use sugar sites. I recruit amateurs "in the wild. " In this case "the wild" was a college library. I have also previously explained that SBs are different from SWs in one important way other than the obvious: they generally won't have sex with just anyone for the price of admission; they exercise choice regarding the SD they choose to be with. Therefore, "contact information" would neither be appropriate nor useful.


Normally when I post a girls picture, the assumption is that she is a streetwalker and unless otherwise specified she can be found on Kensington Avenue. When posting more than one group of pictures I will sometime wait until the last group to give any contact location. I don't share phone numbers. I don't like PMs. I will share were I found the young lady in the open forum. I do this in order to help other mongers.I "found" the young lady in a college library. If you want to recruit one like her almost any college library will do. I have been successful many times in that venue. All you need is the right game.


After- all, USASexGuide is in its essences an information sharing websiteI did share her information. I posted her pics.

Tazdude
06-14-19, 16:21
As I have previously explained, I don't use sugar sites. I recruit amateurs "in the wild. " In this case "the wild" was a college library. I have also previously explained that SBs are different from SWs in one important way other than the obvious: they generally won't have sex with just anyone for the price of admission; they exercise choice regarding the SD they choose to be with. Therefore, "contact information" would neither be appropriate nor useful.

I "found" the young lady in a college library. If you want to recruit one like her almost any college library will do. I have been successful many times in that venue. All you need is the right game.

I did share her information. I posted her pics.That's amazing, if you can share how you do it in library it will be helpful to me. .

I was exploring Sugar sites but yes the price and the uncertainty of success discouraged me.

Strange
06-14-19, 17:27
Partytimeguy while I enjoy viewing your posts it is really no different from porn. These are your sexual conquests and I commend you on your luck / skill but the difference between your posts and everyone else's is that you're saying I got her and you can't. In the streetwalker forums we talk about who we met, what they were like, and where you can find them. In the escort sections we talk about who we met, what they were like, and where you can find their ad. All of these lead people to not just live vicariously through you but a chance meet that exact same girl. This isn't meant to be disrespectful but what you are doing here is just gloating about your sexual conquests. It's really no different than any college kid posting pictures of the girls he's banging on 4 chan. That is a big difference.

Pkgman
06-14-19, 19:12
Partytimeguy while I enjoy viewing your posts it is really no different from porn. These are your sexual conquests and I commend you on your luck / skill but the difference between your posts and everyone else's is that you're saying I got her and you can't. In the streetwalker forums we talk about who we met, what they were like, and where you can find them. In the escort sections we talk about who we met, what they were like, and where you can find their ad. All of these lead people to not just live vicariously through you but a chance meet that exact same girl. This isn't meant to be disrespectful but what you are doing here is just gloating about your sexual conquests. It's really no different than any college kid posting pictures of the girls he's banging on 4 chan. That is a big difference.Supereloquent.

Back?

PartyTimeGuy
06-14-19, 21:29
Partytimeguy while I enjoy viewing your posts it is really no different from porn. These are your sexual conquests and I commend you on your luck / skill but the difference between your posts and everyone else's is that you're saying I got her and you can't.This is true of virtually every SB review or pic in this forum. It is the very nature of SBs! If anyone could have them they would be UTRs, not SBs.


In the streetwalker forums we talk about who we met, what they were like, and where you can find them. In the escort sections we talk about who we met, what they were like, and where you can find their ad.I was invited by the host of this thread to post my pics here, regardless of the type pf girl being reviewed, because this is "Cookyjar's Photo Thread," (his words, not mine): RE: SB Discussion If you don't like it, I suggest you take it up with the host.


All of these lead people to not just live vicariously through you but a chance meet that exact same girl. This isn't meant to be disrespectful but what you are doing here is just gloating about your sexual conquests. It's really no different than any college kid posting pictures of the girls he's banging on 4 chan. That is a big difference.Before SBs I did SWs extensively for years. In the hundreds of SWs I picked up only a handful were ever girls whose pics I had seen posted on here. We could get into all the various reasons for this, but it is a fact. This forum doesn't have threads for pics of college kids banging their gfs, but it does have many threads about SBs. There is a difference. SBs are what they are. Are you saying that every pic and review on here MUST be a girl you can find and have? I think that would eliminate about 90% of the photos in the forum, because I see precious little posted in here about when and where you can find them. Again, I was invited here. I would be just as happy to go back to posting my pics in the Philly Sugar thread.

Strange
06-14-19, 22:41
All I'm saying is what you are doing is different than the intention of the site. If I meet a girl at AA, and bang her, I'm not posting it here. To be honest I have never looked at the sugar baby parts of this website but by your admission, you don't even use those, you just pick up girls at random places. Kudos to you for that. SBs are repeatable with a link, what you do is not by your own admission repeatable. If I wanna check out pics like yours Ill just check out 4chan they both have the about same impact on my life. I'm not trying to cause a rift in Cookyjar's blog so this will be my last post on this subject but just know I don't feel like this is in the spirit of the site. If you want to start throwing out the formula of your process that would be in the spirit of this website. Trust me I'm not looking for how you do it, I got mine. Just saying. Again out of respect for Cookyjar you will not hear from me again about this. Be safe and happy hunting. Well I didn’t say I wouldn’t edit. Goodnight. I’ll read your reply tomorrow.

PartyTimeGuy
06-14-19, 23:13
All I'm saying is what you are doing is different than the intention of the site. Yes. What I do is different. I don't know that it is not the intention of the site. Many guys could possibly profit from my approach if they gave it a go.


To be honest I have never looked at the sugar baby parts of this website but by your admission, you don't even use those, you just pick up girls at random places. Kudos to you for that. SBs are repeatable with a link, what you do is not by your own admission. So you are saying I should not post here even if invited and not post on SB threads either because, even though you "never looked at them," you know my approach does not apply? Precious few true SBs are "repeatable with a link" unless they are UTRs. Mine are true SBs in every sense of the concept. Just because they didn't post on a sugar site doesn't make them any less SBs. In fact. It makes them MORE like true SBs : true amateurs. I just skipped a step in the process and recruit them before they get the idea to post on a sugar site.


I'm not trying to cause a rift in Cookyjar's blog so this will be my last post on this subject but just know I don't feel like this is in the spirit of the site. If you want to start throwing out the formula of your process that would be in the spirit of this website. Trust me I'm not looking for how you do it, I got mine. Just saying. Again out of respect for Cookyjar you will not hear from me again about this. Be safe and happy hunting.The "spirit of the site"is to encourage information and provide discussion about meeting with girls who will have sex for money. The opposite of that would be to discourage someone from posting because you don't like the way he finds girls to have sex for money because that isn't the way you do it or want to do it. By that measure I would discourage people from posting about SWs, UTRs, AMPs and escorts because I don't prefer to do any of those much anymore.

As for throwing out the "formula" of my process: my posts are chock full of information on that subject. So, I would suppose all those posts would receive your blessing as being in the spirit of this website? But, you said, you are not looking for how I do it? WTF!

PartyTimeGuy
06-14-19, 23:49
That's amazing, if you can share how you do it in library it will be helpful to me. .

I was exploring Sugar sites but yes the price and the uncertainty of success discouraged me.Suggestions:

Look the part. I am more than twice their age, overweight and not the best looking guy in the world so what should I look like? A college professor! A herringbone jacket with patches on the sleeves would be an excellent start. Glasses. Even if you don't wear them. Get fakes.

Find a girl who interests you who is reading alone, preferably at her own table.

Pay attention to what she is reading. Ideally you will have some clue about the subject, or be smart enough to fake it. Lean in and whisper something like. "I remember reading that as an undergraduate. What do you like best about it? "

Hopefully you spark some academic small talk. Angle towards coffee later to discuss it further."My next book is about how students progress towards a thesis topic. Your thoughts would be invaluable."

The "coffee" is like a M&G from a sugar site. See my post about this in recruiting a cashier from a fast food joint. Recruiting SBs "In the Wild" .

The above is merely a suggestion, a general pattern. The possibilities are limitless. You have to be able to improvise on the fly. Also KEY to remember: communication is 80% non-verbal. The words are less important than everything else: intonation, eye contact, facial expression, body language, mirroring,etc. That skill is an entire book. If you were bad at picking up girls in HS or college, you will have to learn that skill first before trying to do it when you are twice their age and operating at a higher level of difficulty. The money proposition is your big ace in the hole, but you need to start with some aces showing to make your hole card effective.

NiviThree
06-15-19, 01:20
Supereloquent.

Back?Exactly.

Same pattern. Very needy.

Davey1965
06-15-19, 06:14
Supereloquent.

Back?Beat me to the punch on that one. Sure sounds like it!!

CookyJar
06-16-19, 11:23
My mistake was not suggesting these common courtesy rules to PartyTimeGuy, when I suggested that he become a contributor to this thread. I have made the same suggestions to other Photographers, with no problems. Please read the quotes below.


This is not and never were my intentions. Glockman, feel free to post in this thread. As I have said before, the Admin has been very lenient in what's allowed in the, "CookyJar Streetwalker Photo Thread. " All I ask of you, Glockman, is that you mention that your girls are not from the Philadelphia area. I ask this so that I will not get unnecessary inquiries.
I think I said, "If at all possible, no blocked faces. ".
I have always tried to make the CookyJar Streetwalker Photo Thread informative and ENTERTAINING. Over the years I have had contest, games, jokes, debates and etc, etc and etc, in this thread, in order to keep it from becoming dull and irrelevant. I have also attempted to keep this thread conclusive, an open forum where anyone could post an opinion as long as it wasn't bullshit.
With any pictures posted, there ought to be an explanation, some information and if possible a face.

CookyJar.

PS: I like posting information in the open forum and not in Private Messages. Posting information in the open forum means everyone gets the same information and it means that I dont have to keep repeating the same information over and over again. For example, now everyone who reads this thread knows it is better to post information on the girls and better to post faces when possible.I am not just making this up for, PartyTimeGuy. I have made these suggestions before.


You guys are cheating.
Back when the Admin decided that I needed to have my own location, separate from the traditional threads, some of the haters complained when I posted pictures of out of state Honeys here in the Philly section. So, back then, I promised not post pictures of the New Jersey Honeys, here in this thread. (Please don't misunderstand what I am saying and please don't stop doing what you are doing. Read on!).
The current Admin has been very lenient with me and this thread. He has allowed me to disregard the haters and as long as I don't go butt wild, I can do pretty much what I like in this thread.

But! I am going to have to ask you guys to follow a few rules. The same rules that I follow. Any girl who does not work the streets of Philadelphia must be identified.




1. Please indicate the location and the availability of the girl pictured. Otherwise I am going to be inundated with private messages requesting information on girls located in Memphis, Delaware or East G-Blip. If they are a Craigslist girl, an Escort or a streetwalker, that information would be nice, too.




2. If at all possible, no blocked faces. I hate blocked faces. It kind of indicates that there is a secret or that maybe the girl doesn't approve. If a picture must be blocked, an explanation would be helpful.


There is no reason why this thread cannot be as entertaining as it is informative.
CookyJar.

They are not really rules. They are suggestions. They should be considered, "Common Courtesy. " Here is Common Courtesy #3.



3. When posting old or dated pictures (more than a year old), that information should be noted in the description or review. Girls appearances change, they get out of the trade and their availability changes - older pictures may no longer be relevant.


A lot of guys just want to look at the pretty pictures. That's okay. Some guys are actually interested in the girls. Guys will see the pictures, know what thread it is in and know whose name is on the thread. They don't stop and take the time to read the post with the pictures. No! They just private message me, asking for contact information.

This is an open forum. I am not placing any restrictions on anyone. I feel that I do have the right to make suggestions. Guys may post their pictures in this or any of the other threads, in thePhiladelphia forum. There is even a thread especially for, "Streetwalker Photos (Not CookyJar Photos). ".

Regardless of where a post is posted, the poster has got to assume that there may be some negative feedback, now and then.

I hope this helps.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
06-18-19, 10:33
Isn't it more like she's got a hot bod but her face?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butter%20faceOn my first date with Ashley, she was made-up nicely and freshly perfumed.

IMHO, Ashley has a great body, with long shapely legs, ample ass and perky little titties with nice responsive nipples. She's a Butterface. And! IMHO, her face is not that bad. In the make-up she was actually kind of cute. With all that being said, I should add; the service was excellent. The service was good enough for me to seek out a third meeting.

I am a big fan of perky boobies with responsive nipples.

Both times when I found Ashley she was in the Huntingdon Station area, on Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.

HardPacc
06-18-19, 13:37
Looks like nice pussy to play in.


On my first date with Ashley, she was made-up nicely and freshly perfumed.

IMHO, Ashley has a great body, with long shapely legs, ample ass and perky little titties with nice responsive nipples. She's a Butterface. And! IMHO, her face is not that bad. In the make-up she was actually kind of cute. With all that being said, I should add; the service was excellent. The service was good enough for me to seek out a third meeting.

I am a big fan of perky boobies with responsive nipples.

Both times when I found Ashley she was in the Huntingdon Station area, on Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.

Gator145
06-19-19, 16:04
I got the following PM and wanted to share it with you CookyJar. It solidifies the last post I mentioned regarding this subject. The PM is as follows with my response just in case other noncontributors decide to take the same route to gather information. This guy CookyJarr, JohnTheMan, Lihart, to name but a few. All doing the same thing, feeding off others so they don't need to take the same risk the rest of us take. This is to let them all know, NO MORE.


What time and day does the girls from the Prison at State Rd ome out?Ok listen here. You are using the name of a well-respected site member by simply adding a double letter R. Really? That is the best you can do?

You guys have little to zero contribution to the site. You nor anybody else will ever be a CookyJar no matter how many ways you alter the letters. It will be a very long time before you even come close to the contribution he has shared with this site. That is if you ever begin any contributions. I find your methods sneaky and slimy at best.

Yet you have your hand out with nothing in it. I'd like to assist you when you begin assisting other members on the site. Fair enough? I stopped sharing information with regular "members" for this exact reason.

It has been my experience once rookies get what they want they tend to put the hat and trenchcoat back on with no trousers or underwear and slither back into the shadows holding their dick until they have to put their slimy empty hands out again. Crank up your posts with worthwhile information then come ask for assistance. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

LookingOn
06-21-19, 02:26
I got the following PM and wanted to share it with you CookyJar. It solidifies the last post I mentioned regarding this subject. The PM is as follows with my response just in case other noncontributors decide to take the same route to gather information. This guy CookyJarr, JohnTheMan, Lihart, to name but a few. All doing the same thing, feeding off others so they don't need to take the same risk the rest of us take. This is to let them all know, NO MORE.

Ok listen here. You are using the name of a well-respected site member by simply adding a double letter R. Really? That is the best you can do?

You guys have little to zero contribution to the site. You nor anybody else will ever be a CookyJar no matter how many ways you alter the letters. It will be a very long time before you even come close to the contribution he has shared with this site. That is if you ever begin any contributions. I find your methods sneaky and slimy at best.

Yet you have your hand out with nothing in it. I'd like to assist you when you begin assisting other members on the site. Fair enough? I stopped sharing information with regular "members" for this exact reason.

It has been my experience once rookies get what they want they tend to put the hat and trenchcoat back on with no trousers or underwear and slither back into the shadows holding their dick until they have to put their slimy empty hands out again. Crank up your posts with worthwhile information then come ask for assistance. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.From time to time I troll other cities SW posts to see what I'm missing. One day I'll fly out to Philly and Johnny Appleseed spread my speed in your town, as I did with Orlando.

Here in Austin, TX there are the same hat in hand limps bugging me for the same info. I've done every which way to hook an SW. It's easier on foot to get them and reel them back for a car date. All under the nose of APD. Literally under their HQ. They don't care about the ones in the shadows.

After all taking that risk, you have some low-post memeber acting as if he's my friend looking for info. Even though my posts give out enough detail. I ignore them if their history shows no posts or shit posts.

Gator145
06-21-19, 06:01
From time to time I troll other cities SW posts to see what I'm missing. One day I'll fly out to Philly and Johnny Appleseed spread my speed in your town, as I did with Orlando.

Here in Austin, TX there are the same hat in hand limps bugging me for the same info. I've done every which way to hook an SW. It's easier on foot to get them and reel them back for a car date. All under the nose of APD. Literally under their HQ. They don't care about the ones in the shadows.

After all taking that risk, you have some low-post memeber acting as if he's my friend looking for info. Even though my posts give out enough detail. I ignore them if their history shows no posts or shit posts.Understood and could not agree with you more. One can see the dick juice dripping from the keys as they slither their fingers across the keyboard. They make empty promises in their falsetto voices like "if you ever get to East Bumblefuck Missouri to look them up and they will graciously return the favor".

It's obvious enough to me if they had girls to share from their sorry ass town they wouldn't be coming to mine to get what they seem to be refused at home. So I tell them the chances of me visiting their town are minimal to none at best.

Why would I go to East or West Bumblefuck anywhere looking for women when there is an abundance of women right here? Let's be as real as we can about that offer there. If I can get just about any woman I want right here in my own town, why would they think I need there "assistance" to score in theirs? Come on, give me a little credit, please. It also stands to reason if they can't score in my town why would I believe they could score in theirs?

So I make one request, that is to post a review or report on their experience? These limp dick dark shadow characters can't take their hands out of their pants long enough to even do that. But they will spend all day banging the keys begging for info from others because they are to dorky to score on their own what I scored. Now, seems to me to write a report or review on a subject somebody else was gracious enough to share is a minimal requirement to ask. I think it keeps the site flowing in the right direction and also assists others that may have an interest in the same prospect. Duhhhhh!

My suggestion is this. If they can't cooperate, to grow a set of man balls, don't need to be big balls. Just something to fill the void that currently lies between their legs that would indicate they are a man instead of a fucking wimp.

Then go out and put in the effort to get what they are asking me for. There are many on this site I have shared info and continue to share info with. This is not at all directed at them. There may be some that don't have extremely high post counts but they make an honest effort to contribute here. I have no issue with them.

True story here. This guy Johntheman sends me a PM asking for contact info on one of the Jess. Claiming to have dated her and they had a good "relationship" last summer. He asked for her digits which I flat out refused to give him because he came across like a loser. I did share the agency site she is currently working for. Figured if he wanted to pay the agency rates fine with me. I get a text a few days later from her telling me how weird this guy is and how he belongs in an asylum and it was her that broke the contact with him because he's so strange and not him losing contact. She asked me to please send him back under the rock he crawled out from under. Her words not mine.

Then this loser CookyJarr hit an all-time low by using CookyJars handle and adding an extra letter "R". That in itself says volumes about this guy. That is a wannabe voyeur at its best right there.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Strange
06-21-19, 16:08
She reminds me of an early Laverne.

CookyJar
06-21-19, 22:05
Then this loser CookyJarr hit an all-time low by using CookyJars handle and adding an extra letter "R". That in itself says volumes about this guy. That is a wannabe voyeur at its best right there.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Another monger PM'ed me about this creep.

Thankyou Gator, for bringing it to the attention of the entire forum. Who knows how many others have been approached and possibly fooled by this creep?

I owe you one.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
07-06-19, 23:29
I spotted, Bonnie 1 and Bonnie 2,.working today also. So for some reason the action today and yesterday was nonstop.
Plenty of fun to be had when all reasonable care is used. So summer is here go out and have some fun. Always be aware of who you are dealing and what's going on around you. Don't be the next news story. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.And, this is my Bonnie. My little Bonne, with the great little apple bottom. She may be Bonnie 1 or Bonnie 2, it doesn't matter either way to me. Does anyone care to make a comment?



My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
My Bonnie lies over the sea.
My Bonnie lies over the ocean.
Oh bring back my Bonnie to me.


CookyJar.

Strange
07-07-19, 09:26
And, this is my Bonnie. My little Bonne, with the great little apple bottom. She may be Bonnie 1 or Bonnie 2, it doesn't matter either way to me. Does anyone care to make a comment?



My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
My Bonnie lies over the sea.
My Bonnie lies over the ocean.
Oh bring back my Bonnie to me.


CookyJar.OMG what an awesome little body Bonnie has. That is my favorite little ass. Tiny but shapely. She's got a cute and innocent face as well. You seem to find the best ones out there for sure. I'm going to have to spend a day up in the city real soon. It's just hard because Wilmington has been so fruitful lately.

Gator145
07-07-19, 10:40
And, this is my Bonnie. My little Bonne, with the great little apple bottom. She may be Bonnie 1 or Bonnie 2, it doesn't matter either way to me. Does anyone care to make a comment?
CookyJar.This is Bonnie 1. Has been working the Sedgley area but more frequently been seeing her around Clearfield down to Orleans. Nice girl always willing and able. Gave her and Jordan some lunch Friday. Bonnie 2 can usually be found around Harold and K or around the corner on Jasper when she's not stuck at Somerset. That is where she seems happiest. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

CookyJar
07-08-19, 22:56
This is Bonnie 1. Has been working the Sedgley area but more frequently been seeing her around Clearfield down to Orleans. Nice girl always willing and able
Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Thanks Gator! That's exactly how I remember her, very accommodating.

Bonnie dropped to her knees and took my dick deep into her mouth. Her lips closed around it as she sucked the entire length into her mouth. Back when she'd first got in my car she had said that she gave a very good blow job, but this was more than I had expected.

Her head was moving up and down on my dick, sucking and slurping, tongue rolling around the head. Bonnie was looking up at me through her hair. Wow! That was one sexy look. I lost control. As the second spurt of cum erupted from my dick Bonnie tensed, her cheeks puffed out, her eyes bulged as she collected every drop before running to the nearby waste can.

CookyJar.

LuvEmSmall
07-09-19, 07:06
Thanks Gator! That's exactly how I remember her, very accommodating.

Bonnie dropped to her knees and took my dick deep into her mouth. Her lips closed around it as she sucked the entire length into her mouth. Back when she'd first got in my car she had said that she gave a very good blow job, but this was more than I had expected.

Her head was moving up and down on my dick, sucking and slurping, tongue rolling around the head. Bonnie was looking up at me through her hair. Wow! That was one sexy look. I lost control. As the second spurt of cum erupted from my dick Bonnie tensed, her cheeks puffed out, her eyes bulged as she collected every drop before running to the nearby waste can.

CookyJar.She's got some great little titties.

Larks Tongue
07-14-19, 17:15
And, this is my Bonnie. My little Bonne, with the great little apple bottom. She may be Bonnie 1 or Bonnie 2, it doesn't matter either way to me. Does anyone care to make a comment?



My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
My Bonnie lies over the sea.
My Bonnie lies over the ocean.
Oh bring back my Bonnie to me.


CookyJar.I must say that she has one gorgeous pussy on her. That sight from behind is worth the price of admission for that ride. If she was at Dizneyland she would be an "E" ticket ride. You are a mongering god Mr. CookyJar. Thanks for sharing your good fortune with the rest of us.

Larks Tongue
07-14-19, 17:20
I call her my librarian because I met her in a library and she looks like a librarian doesn't she? As one would expect she is quiet and submissive: does everything she is told. She likes to be quiet even during sex but, shades of "Groundhog Day," she makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets really excited. Hearing her breathlessly squeak as she bounces up and down on my cock is so perversely enjoyable. She is dutifully good without complaint for as long and for as many cups as I can manage. I love to fish hook her as I am doing her doggy. Some day I will get a tripod and catch that action as it happens.

Once I didn't have time to go to a hotel and we did it in the car like two teenagers. I reported on this a while back. I will dig out some extra photos from this and post them sometime. I never had so much fun in a car when I was actually a teenager. Some things actually do get better with age.

Life IS good my brothers.Holy shit! The mongering gods looked down on you very favorably. She is a dream. Nice boobies and a fine body as well. She's a keeper.

Larks Tongue
07-14-19, 17:31
Hello gents! Any idea who this might be? I spotted her Sunday morning in the area of the K & Sergeant St. Area.Send her to Saint Louis please. We could use some quality pussy here. The SW's here are all drugged out or if they're clean and attractive they have the GPS going on.

Larks Tongue
07-14-19, 17:49
In my original post on Jordan, I did make reference to how slight and off-putting she appeared in her crummy street clothing. Even though I was put-off by what I first saw, I took a chance that the body underneath would justify the pickup.

Also, as in it concerns Jordan, there was a report that she had recently been badly beaten about her face by some brave women abuser. I don't hit women; heaven knows some deserve a good beating. But! IMHO, life is much too short to sweat the petty shyt and I personally have too much self-respect. I guess girls like Jordan and little Michelle (who was also badly beaten) are just easy targets and big tough women beaters can't resist the opportunity to beat on someone smaller than them.

There are many reasons why appearances change. (I believe I first saw Jordan after she had been newly released and freshly deposited back on the avenue.).

Sometimes the changes the girls undergo are good and sometimes they're bad. A lot depends on point of view. As a photographer, I get a very diverse perspective. I see things some of you wouldn't understand and couldn't imagine. Often change is a matter of neglect. I saw Amanda aka Pinky both at her best and then again at her worst. It saddened me deeply. It was to weep. Sometimes the transition is for the best and sometime it's not. Sometimes it's done on purpose. I saw Amy's transition before and after with total disbelief. Actually, I preferred the small version. Oh! And, then there was Ashley. Looking at Ashley then & now 001 and Ashely Then & now 002, the mind is befuddled. How could anyone have been expected to recognize her? I was and remain confused. I didn't recognize her at all. It was she who pointed out our pass history. Bambi aka Molissa aka Corey was a huge hit on both the Kensington and NJ threads during her last reincarnating. No one, not a single monger, recognized Bambi aka Molissa aka Corey from any of her earlier photos. And, then there was Maylea. Maylea thin or Maylea thick is a toss-up. She remains a favorite. Maylea's weight yoyos up and down, depending on her current living arrangements. And then there is Missey, whose transformation still baffles those who knew her. And, finally there are girls like Nicole who look good whether thick or thin. How is one to choose? I like her thin.

Some guys like thick girl and some guys like them thin. If they would only wait a minute, a week or a month, the girl who they didnt like when she was small or big will return reincarnated as the women of their dreams.

My point is: Just wait a minute and another will come along and it will probably be the same girl. LOL.

CookyJar.In the before and after pics how many years in between the pictures. Father Time is a bastard that robs us of our youth.

LuvEmSmall
07-15-19, 07:01
Thanks Gator! That's exactly how I remember her, very accommodating.

Bonnie dropped to her knees and took my dick deep into her mouth. Her lips closed around it as she sucked the entire length into her mouth. Back when she'd first got in my car she had said that she gave a very good blow job, but this was more than I had expected.

Her head was moving up and down on my dick, sucking and slurping, tongue rolling around the head. Bonnie was looking up at me through her hair. Wow! That was one sexy look. I lost control. As the second spurt of cum erupted from my dick Bonnie tensed, her cheeks puffed out, her eyes bulged as she collected every drop before running to the nearby waste can.

CookyJar.Damn. Love her tits, and that last pick of her in Doggy-awesome pussy! Wow. Wish I had the guts to cruise the K.

CookyJar
07-23-19, 16:21
…I found my true love.
At about 5'10" Rain is tall, healthy and vigorous. She is a PAWG (not a fatty), no doubt about that. She was way ahead of me, anticipating my every need, doing the things I like before I could ask. Bracing herself against the wall, she pushed back using the fullness of her large buttocks to rock my world. This was after a BBBJ where she had gone butt wild, from deepthroating, to soft and slow, fast and deliberate and everything in between. While she sucked, she bobbed and weaved, throated and licked, went from low to high and back low, ending with a mouth full of balls, before licking lower and starting all over again. ( I love it when a girl can reach her tongue out, touch and lick your balls while deepthroating.) Her entire body was her instrument, her tool and she laid it all against mine. Once everything was done and said, I could do little more. In a breathless whisper, I proposed marriage.
CookyJarRain is all about performance. She is a submissive, with a very freaky side. I would love sending a day with Rain in a nice motel. After we finished fucking and freaking out all day, I probably would end up married.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
07-23-19, 17:02
Damn! Some sweet young thing really did a number on you guys.
I don't know about the rest of you assholes, but I've found true love.
As we were getting dressed, as I was praising her performance and after I'd asked for her hand, I told rain I wanted to see her again. She didn't have a phone, but told me that she was normally on the avenue where I had found her. She said if I saw her with a guy, it's her boyfriend. She said I should still stop, because he knew what she did. She also told me that they help each other out so he wouldn't mind.
Of cause she will stop seeing him and everyone else once we are married. That's what she said.
CookyJar.
PS: She was really proud of her tongue piecing.We are all out there looking for that special something, which forefeels our fantasy. For me, looks does not matter if the sexual connection is not there. It is not enough for the girl to let me fuck her face; she has to like me fucking her face. It is not enough that she climb the ladder and give up her asshole, she has to ask for it. She has to submit willing, with desire. When being tea-bagged, her tongue should reach-up with determination and desire. The lust in her face should reflex the lust in mine, as she licks my taint. What I want is a wife who craves what I crave, and desires to give it to me...lovingly.

CookyJar.

Strange
07-24-19, 08:32
Rain is all about performance. She is a submissive, with a very freaky side. I would love sending a day with Rain in a nice motel. After we finished fucking and freaking out all day, I probably would end up married.

CookyJar.More importantly how could you ever find a wedding photographer that can capture the moment as well as you? And don't forget to bring that ladder. I like how her legs thinned out just a bit but are still shapely.

CookyJar
07-31-19, 00:43
Damn. Love her tits
Wow. Wish I had the guts to cruise the K.Hey LuvEmSmall, check out Jennifer from NJ's Broadway. I need your help with this one.


It's been almost two years since I visited NJ's Broadway. No particular reason why I stopped visiting. I have to admit, I do miss the old regulars.
A couple of weeks ago, for no particular reason, I took a trip across the river. I just wanted to see what I could see. I first saw Jennifer walking on Broadway. Her tiny, 5 foot nothing spinning body and large bra got my attention. Later, I ran into her while visiting an old friend at a $10 house. As it turned out, the bra was false advertisement. Everything else, the tight little spinner body, was mouthwatering delicious.
As it turns out, she is extremely self-conscious when it comes to her small shapely, perky boobs.
Come-on fellows help me out, with your comments. I told Jennifer, her breast were just fine. I prefer perky little boobs over floppy big titties anytime. What's your preference, perky or floppy?
(Jennifer mentioned wanting implants. Worse thing she could do, IMHO.)
CookyJar.
P.S.: The other girl, anon girl (she did give me her name, I just forgot it) was great too. Please don't get me wrong, her full body tits were great, perky and shapely. More about the date later.

Help me convince Jennifer that she has, "Great Tits."

CookyJar

Mike Sweeney
07-31-19, 04:31
Hey LuvEmSmall, check out Jennifer from NJ's Broadway. I need your help with this one.



Help me convince Jennifer that she has, "Great Tits."

CookyJarCJ, Great body, and the boobs, very nice.

CookyJar
07-31-19, 10:36
CJ, Great body, and the boobs, very nice.Thanks Mike, I agree. If you haven't already, follow this link Jennifer and Anon Girl and see the entire post in the South Jersey, General Thread.

The proximity of the Kensington and Broadway strolls make them available to mongers from both sides of the river. Neither stroll is perfect; they both have good and bad points.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
08-21-19, 01:05
Ashley is a beauty. She has a classic appeal. She has an innocent gaze that is genuine and pleasing. If I were a young man and had my way. Well, you know what I am thinking. I would make her mind and keep her for myself.

My time together with Ashley only involved a photo session and maybe an hour of chatting. If anyone has more information on the fair Ashley, I would sure appreciate that information.

CookyJar.

Acro782
08-21-19, 01:27
Ashley is a beauty. She has a classic appeal. She has an innocent gaze that is genuine and pleasing. If I were a young man and had my way. Well, you know what I am thinking. I would make her mind and keep her for myself.

My time together with Ashley only involved a photo session and maybe an hour of chatting. If anyone has more information on the fair Ashley, I would sure appreciate that information.

CookyJar.Great find, CJ. I thought this one had disappeared. First say her 'about a month or so ago but she was actually way out of the typical stroll area (around 7-11 on Aramingo) and caught her just as she had gotten food at Wendy's. Did the standard cardate, just BBBJ. Of course she didn't have her phone but gave me her FB info. I'd left a message but hadn't heard anything back and it didn't look like it was active for a while, then never found her again. Will have to keep my eye out more closely.

Happy Huntin,

AC.

Strange
08-21-19, 09:57
She's is absolutely gorgeous. She has some of the longest legs, they just keep going. One more unicorn to add to my list. I need to make that drive to philly soon. Weird I always wondered why you didn't come to Wilmington more yet I'm just a stones throw from philly and almost never make it up there. I guess we all just tend to be most comfortable in our own backyard so to speak. You my friend have lit a fire under me to plan a day up there.

Gator145
08-21-19, 11:22
Ashley is a beauty. She has a classic appeal. She has an innocent gaze that is genuine and pleasing. If I were a young man and had my way. Well, you know what I am thinking. I would make her mind and keep her for myself.

My time together with Ashley only involved a photo session and maybe an hour of chatting. If anyone has more information on the fair Ashley, I would sure appreciate that information.

CookyJar.Ashley is a cute 21 year old. She can be found around the Somerset area. I usually see her with a loser in that area. She likes hitting the pipe and there are a bunch of rock spots to be found right there on Somerset. I hung out with her twice. Although I first met her at KnA, and seen her as far up as Tioga, she said her main playground is Somerset. She has an exceptional personality. Eager to please in any way she can. Told me she never sucked dick till she was 19. Once she tried said she loves it and will never give it up.

Just a heads up on Ashley. Finn1972 did a ripoff report on her on 5/23/2019. Post #164. Here's the link http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8821-Ripoff-Reports&p=4288080&viewfull=1#post4288080. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

CookyJar
09-01-19, 01:35
Ashley is a cute 21 year old
She has an exceptional personality. Eager to please in any way she can. Told me she never sucked dick till she was 19. Once she tried said she loves it and will never give it up.
Just a heads up on Ashley. Finn1972 did a ripoff report on her on 5/23/2019. Post #164. Here's the link http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8821-Ripoff-Reports&p=4288080&viewfull=1#post4288080. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.I am looking forwarded to our third meeting with great anticipation.

CookyJar.


Great find, CJ. Did the standard cardate, just BBBJ. Of course she didn't have her phone but gave me her FB info. I'd left a message but hadn't heard anything back and it didn't look like it was active for a while, then never found her again. Will have to keep my eye out more closely.
Happy Huntin,
AC.I think you are right. I am going to play this one by ear too.

I am looking forwarded to our third meeting with great anticipation.

Cookyjar.


Ashley is a really cute girl
I very reluctantly gave her $10 she said shed be right. I should have insisted date first but she seemed trust worthy anyway she never returned. So I wouldn't take a chance on her because she really is one conflicked dater she prolly only dates when her loser boyfriend makes her and she was extremely paranoid about being seen getting in and out of the car.I had a second opportunity with Ashley and missed it. She was walking up the Avenue, towards the Shop and Go. I had another date and we were on our way to local accommodations when I saw Ashley. At first I mistook her for someone else Amber. After she refreshed my memory, we decided to try our luck with a threesome. Ashley asked to make a stop before we continued. She did not ask for or need anything from me, saying she had her own means. We dropped her off and she promised to meet with us later. My new friend and I started and completed our date without Ashley. No money passed hands, no promises were made and I'm not mad at her. It's was just another opportunity lost.

On both occasions, Ashley made it very clear to me that she neither wanted or needed any money and she had her money and could support her own habit. On our first date, I was the reluctant one there was no real meeting of the minds during our second encounter.

I always make the assumption that, YMMV.

I am looking forwarded to our third meeting with great anticipation.

CookyJar

PS: What's not to like?

AGoodOne
09-01-19, 04:10
Holy shit! The mongering gods looked down on you very favorably. She is a dream. Nice boobies and a fine body as well. She's a keeper.She looks like a fucking child. I'd her, or don't see her. Everyone should see her I'd highly doubt she is 21 sickening.

Shut the fuck up. The law is 18 and that chick is 25 if she's a day. I'm not sure why you think anybody gives a fuck about your fingerwagging but get the fuck out of here.

A2

CookyJar
09-01-19, 19:53
She looks like a fucking child. I'd her, or don't see her. Everyone should see her I'd highly doubt she is 21 sickening.

Shut the fuck up. The law is 18 and that chick is 25 if she's a day. I'm not sure why you think anybody gives a fuck about your fingerwagging but get the fuck out of here.
A2Sometimes, a little prospective helps.

The Admin says 25 and Gator said 21, I'm somewhere in the middle. I believe she told me 22.

If you wait around for an ID from these girls, you are going to be waiting for an awful long time. Most of these girls had not the means to hold onto personal belongings. I may have asked for and gotten ID, maybe twice in all of the time that I have been doing this.

In Finn1972's picture she looks a little older, than in mine. In my version, she looks younger, fresher, and more innocent by design. (It took me a minute or two to realize that they are pictures of the same girl.) It was my intention to present her as the sweet young flower that she is. The streets may have turned her into something different. I am an amateur artist; sometimes my camera sees what is beneath the crud.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
09-01-19, 23:27
Ashley is a really cute girl…
…I would caution against dating her...I always make the assumption that YMMV is the case.

Two opportunities missed, maybe that's it. I was able to take a few pictures of this beautiful young woman, maybe that's enough. However, a third chance is always a possibility. She's got mixed reviews, so I know I need to use my better judgement. I noted a few errors made and some suggestions in the original reviews. That information along with Gator's report on her dick sucking talents, makes we think Ashley desires a third go. After all, the service is everything.

CookyJar.

Rubber Ducky Boston
09-02-19, 15:15
Dang, she's a real looker. If only I wasn't so unfamiliar with and scared of the whole car-date / streetwalker scene.

CookyJar
09-02-19, 19:59
Dang, she's a real looker. If only I wasn't so unfamiliar with and scared of the whole car-date / streetwalker scene.If you don't mind my making a suggestion, stay with what makes you feel comfortable. But! If you should decide to venture out onto the streets. Take it slow. Like most things worth doing, there is a learning curve.

CookyJar.

Mmppt
09-02-19, 20:20
Not sure if it was Ashley or a different girl, but I ran into a very similar looking youthful-looking girl at K & Somerset who gave me a bad! Vibe. Didn't really recognize her from CookyJar's pictures but she looked a lot more like Finn's picture. This was the second time I had run into her and she also has this "I'm lost don't know where I'm going need money" routine when you first meet her. I had flagged her down over by Ruth and she kept hesitating to get in the car, kept saying she was super nervous, kept looking back up towards the street like she was looking for someone, and kept asking me if I wanted to just to park and date right there on Ruth. The whole time she kept trying to ask my name, where I'm from, what I wanted, etc. Eventually I just left but as soon as I did, a tinted out black Dodge Ram followed my car for a second and then flew by down Emerald. Looking back I kept wondering if I was going to be set up. It seems like at least some of you had better luck.

AznKilla
09-03-19, 11:55
What times do you guys usually see Ashley? I've been roaming at night from 8ish to 1ish without any sighting.

CookyJar
09-04-19, 08:35
What times do you guys usually see Ashley? I've been roaming at night from 8ish to 1ish without any sighting.Thanks for asking in the open forum.

I cannot be exact, but in was day light out, in the late afternoon.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
09-06-19, 21:40
I really wouldn't care. I'm not asking for I'd. If I saw this beautiful woman walking, I would do EVERYTHING I could to get my cock in all 3 orifices.You can ask, I doubt if you'd get one. ID's are rare on the avenue.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
09-06-19, 21:45
So I'm driving the Avenue when I see this hottie. I drove a little further and I see another hottie. There was Amber and there was Star. I cannot say for certain which came first. I do know for sure who came last, me.

This is Amber.

CookyJar.

Plicker2
09-06-19, 22:10
So I'm driving the Avenue when I see this hottie. I drove a little further and I see another hottie. There was Amber and there was Star. I cannot say for certain which came first. I do know for sure who came last, me.

This is Amber.

CookyJar.Wow she is cute great find Cooky. I'm thinking I'm going to have to go looking for this one thanks.

Buster Face
09-07-19, 02:28
I've been following you for years impressed with the time you invest.

Amber and Ashley are two of your best for my tastes.

Living out in SoCal I miss Philadelphia talent.

Would it be asking too much to send them out here?

Gator145
09-07-19, 08:56
Wow she is cute great find Cooky. I'm thinking I'm going to have to go looking for this one thanks.Amber can be found almost 24/7 between Westmoreland and K and A. If things get slow she might drift toward Ontario. She's usually right there strolling by Philly Ink or the junk shop. Seems to like that side of the street. When she got out of jail she had the nicest tits. That was a year or so ago. Me. I'm just an 'OL Gator.

AznKilla
09-07-19, 14:41
Thanks for asking in the open forum.

I cannot be exact, but in was day light out, in the late afternoon.

CookyJar.Saw Ashley on the K when I did a spontaneous stroll late last night around 2 ish. Wow, what a cutie indeed! However, she's always talking to someone puffing up smoke. Circled around a few times but just couldn't see her by herself or catch her attention. Shame, LOL. Is this normal for her? How do you catch someone's attention in a more crowded area or when talking to somebody like that?

CookyJar
09-07-19, 21:55
Amber can be found almost 24/7 between Westmoreland and K and A. If things get slow she might drift toward Ontario. She's usually right there strolling by Philly Ink or the junk shop. Seems to like that side of the street. When she got out of jail she had the nicest tits. That was a year or so ago. Me. I'm just an 'OL Gator.You guys ought to listen to that 'OL Gator. He knows what he is talking about.

CookyJar.

Mike Sweeney
09-08-19, 04:53
You guys ought to listen to that 'OL Gator. He knows what he is talking about.

CookyJar.CJ, you really need to marry one of those cuties, Amber & Ashley.

Acro782
09-08-19, 08:50
So I'm driving the Avenue when I see this hottie. I drove a little further and I see another hottie. There was Amber and there was Star. I cannot say for certain which came first. I do know for sure who came last, me.

This is Amber.

CookyJar.Nice pics there CJ. I think I passed this one a few times recently but I think I may have mistaken her for this other SW named Carli. The face looks very similar, but if I recall correctly Carli had more baby damage or weight loss signs around the tummy area, and she had also a bit of an attitude so I had stopped picking her up, but then she disappeared for a while about 6 months to a yr ago. May need to take her for a ride next time and double check if it's the same or different person.

Happy Hunting,

AC.

CookyJar
09-08-19, 21:41
But! First let me ask you a question about the marks you mentioned. Keep in mind that most of our fellow mongers only do quick car dates and seldom go beyond a BJ, groping some ass and maybe a little doggie in the back seat. In your opinion, would your average monger, having seen the sighs of baby damage or weight loss you mentioned, look away in discuss and regret his choice of choosing her for a date.


...if I recall correctly Carli had more baby damage or weight loss signs around the tummy area,...

Happy Hunting,

AC.For those members who may not fully understand the process of editing:



Edit


verb

editing (present participle)




1. is the process of selecting and preparing writing, photography, visual, audible, and film media used to convey information. The editing process can involve correction, condensation, organization, and many other modifications performed with an intention of producing a correct, consistent, accurate and complete work.

The editing process often begins with the author's idea for the work itself, continuing as a collaboration between the author and the editor as the work is created. Editing can involve creative skills, human relations and a precise set of methods.


For all particular purposes, I am both the author (artist) and editor.

Among the first things that I do when editing, is to decide which pictures are worthy of posting. The choosing of which pictures to post is up to me; the girls seldom see their picture before they are posted. Therefore, it is up to me to take into consideration their point of view. No girl would want an ugly or unbecoming picture posted on the internet.

As their Photographer, when suggesting poses, I often position the girls in such a way as to emphasize their best features and deemphasize their bad features. Such was the case with Amber.

Can I draw your attention to Amber 67, in the original post? In that particular pose, I had instructed her to elongate her torso, as much as possible, in an effort to diminish / lessen the visible marks on her tummy. However, if a closer look is taken. They are there. They are faint, but visible.

Keep in mind, that by lying flat and because of the use of a camera flash and filters, they are less observable in most of her pictures. However, if you look hard enough, you can still see them.


...and she had also a bit of an attitude so I had stopped picking her up,...

Happy Hunting,

AC.As for her attitude, you may be right again. After agreeing to both pictures and a date, she reneged and flat out refused the date. She asked to be compensated for the pictures and left. Lucky for me, Star proudly stepped up to the plate and hit the ball out of the park.

Because of her attitude, as editor, I have no regrets posting Amber 52, in which there is a better glimpse of her tummy. But! Once again I must ask, do you think a few marks, whether they be from birth or weight lost, would discourage our fellow mongers from picking-up this beauty.

More likely than not, the reports on her attitude are the bigger deterrent. IMHO.

So what do you think, now? Is Amber, Carli? Or! Is Carli, Amber?

CookyJar.

Acro782
09-09-19, 15:21
But! First let me ask you a question about the marks you mentioned. Keep in mind that most of our fellow mongers only do quick car dates and seldom go beyond a BJ, groping some ass and maybe a little doggie in the back seat.

For those members who may not fully understand the process of editing:I'm more of a face person, especially for the car date where that's mostly what you'd be looking at. Some baby damage would not necessarily ruin a date. The quality of the service and attitude is more important. Based on what you said, Carli / Amber is the same person. Now that I know, for me I'd continue to drive by. I'm just not keen on dealing wth the attitude again. Been there, done that, and there's better out there right now. Others may have better luck, and more power to them.

Happy Huntin,

AC.

CookyJar
09-20-19, 19:36
I'm more of a face person, especially for the car date where that's mostly what you'd be looking at. Some baby damage would not necessarily ruin a date. The quality of the service and attitude is more important…
Happy Huntin,
AC.It was Star who came to my rescue, after Amber bailed on me.

On the street, I usually look for a pretty face and nice body. Sadly, I cannot judge quality of service and attitude from a girl walking by my passenger side window.

If you ever have to make the same choice that I did, between Amber and Sheena – play it safe and choose Sheena.

CookyJar.

Lance547
09-24-19, 16:02
It was Star who came to my rescue, after Amber bailed on me.

On the street, I usually look for a pretty face and nice body. Sadly, I cannot judge quality of service and attitude from a girl walking by my passenger side window.

If you ever have to make the same choice that I did, between Amber and Sheena play it safe and choose Sheena.

CookyJar.Just looking out. Anyone can PM me for info about "Star".

JayLovesJenny
10-04-19, 07:07
Guys, I am coming to Philadelphia sometime in the October. I would really LOVE to meet Ashley! She is exactly what I am looking for. I would like to know any details please, best hours and spots, quality of service. Does anyone know if she would do an overnight? PLEASE HELP and Thank you so much.

MongerSeeker
10-04-19, 09:59
It's amazing all the hot WSW's you find in Philly. Things are so lame in SD & Socal these days. Have only been one good looking WSW in 3 years here in SD. The only good thing is that TJ is close. There is good looking US girls and some a few good looking light skinned Mexicans in TJ. Keeping hope the action will pick up.

Lance547
10-04-19, 10:32
It's amazing all the hot WSW's you find in Philly. Things are so lame in SD & Socal these days. Have only been one good looking WSW in 3 years here in SD. The only good thing is that TJ is close. There is good looking US girls and some a few good looking light skinned Mexicans in TJ. Keeping hope the action will pick up.The west coast is a different world. Back in the 80's (before my time) the hot SW's could be found on Sunset boulevard, and up into the early 2000's on Figueroa street. I'm assuming gentrification, drugs, giving pimps hard jail time, and other things wiped that street culture out.

But just like you said TJ is close. I use to work at a gym in 2001 and had a buddy that I met at that gym who use to go to TJ almost every other weekend and come back and tell me all his crazy adventures with the girls down there. This was before I knew about what I know now. He would come back so alive and happy. He was a water delivery driver.

That said, probably the most beautiful women I have ever seen in my life were just walking around in California or they could be bagging your groceries. By far the Rockabilly chicks to me are the hottest that culture is only out in California.

In California you have all the women from all races. Japanese, Korean, Mexican, El Salvadorian, European, African, mix, ect, you name it. Here in the east especially in Philadelphia we don't have such variety.

CookyJar
10-14-19, 22:58
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We've all heard that, before. I've heard it, I get it and I still have questions. What make some people more appealing than others?

Is Mande beautiful or merely attractive? Are her features appealing? Who thinks she's plain, average?

I found her to be intriguing, alluring. She stole my heart. I suspect her effect on my heart had more to do with her personality, than her physical appearance.

CookyJar.Mande is a NJ girl. I thought some of you Kensington Avenue mongers might be interested in taking a peek at what lay just across the waters.

CookyJar.

NvrStlPhilly
10-15-19, 16:07
Mande is a NJ girl. I thought some of you Kensington Avenue mongers might be interested in taking a peek at what lay just across the waters.

CookyJar.Since CJ is soliciting a rating / opinion I would say no to beauty. Very plain Jane. 5 at best in looks scale. Girl next door. Not hot at all.

CookyJar
10-27-19, 22:21
Discretion:

(dəˈskreSH(ə)n)
Noun.

1. The quality of behaving or speaking in such a way as to avoid causing offense or revealing private information.



Been to this place around Ontario and the Ave. On Potter street. Don't remember the address but has a red star on the door. There are 2 rooms upstairs both $10 - the larger room has a nice bed, sheets, pillows, fan. Not sure if it has AC or works. Older lady lives there downstairs and don't think she makes it upstairs to what looks like used to be her bedroom with her furniture and doll collection. Much better than Hart Lane with the door that doesn't close and just plain shady. This is the K so it's not going to be pretty but much better than in the car constantly looking out for whatever may be lurking around. Have been caught in the act a couple of times in Camden and they just told me to get out of there. Not trying my luck in the Ave. Especially now whether it is election season or what there have been a few busts recently and not trying to add me to the list! Pretty sure would lose my job if name got published in the paper as a john.If you're so worried about getting your picture in the papers, why are you telling the world were you hangout. You just put all of their (her) business in the street.

Some people just cannot keep their mouth shut. Why not just write the information on a piece of paper, pull over a cop car and hand it to them. Maybe you don't believe the cops monitor this site. Maybe you believe the Vice President monitored Craiglist, BackPage, Seeking Arrangements and all the others but skipped USASG.

I guess I have you to think for the undercover vehicle parked on the corner.

CookyJar.

MadBastid
10-28-19, 15:03
Discretion:

(dəˈskreSH(ə)n)
Noun.

1. The quality of behaving or speaking in such a way as to avoid causing offense or revealing private information.


If you're so worried about getting your picture in the papers, why are you telling the world were you hangout. You just put all of their (her) business in the street.

Some people just cannot keep their mouth shut. Why not just write the information on a piece of paper, pull over a cop car and hand it to them. Maybe you don't believe the cops monitor this site. Maybe you believe the Vice President monitored Craiglist, BackPage, Seeking Arrangements and all the others but skipped USASG.

I guess I have you to think for the undercover vehicle parked on the corner.

CookyJar.What CJ said.

Gee, thanks Officer Friendly, badge number 1855.

Either that or he's the one who will fuck a guy in the ass and not even give the courtesy of a goddamn reach around.

CookyJar
11-04-19, 21:32
Come on fellows, speak up. This one's no spinner, but she's a jewel, a diamond in the rough. Surely someone out there in Mongerland knows her name. Surely someone knows her true value. Surely, I can't be the only one with something nice to say about this gem.

I cannot remember her name, but she knew mine. She said another USASG member had recommended me and that it was so nice she'd finally got to meet me.

Whoever the USASG member was who made that recommendation, I owe you one.

CookyJar.

DonTrask
11-04-19, 23:41
Not that it helps because finding her will be more luck than anything else but where did you run across her?


Come on fellows, speak up. This one's no spinner, but she's a jewel, a diamond in the rough. Surely someone out there in Mongerland knows her name. Surely someone knows her true value. Surely, I can't be the only one with something nice to say about this gem.

I cannot remember her name, but she knew mine. She said another USASG member had recommended me and that it was so nice she'd finally got to meet me.

Whoever the USASG member was who made that recommendation, I owe you one.

CookyJar.

Fun Jersey
11-05-19, 01:11
Come on fellows, speak up. This one's no spinner, but she's a jewel, a diamond in the rough. Surely someone out there in Mongerland knows her name. Surely someone knows her true value. Surely, I can't be the only one with something nice to say about this gem.

I cannot remember her name, but she knew mine. She said another USASG member had recommended me and that it was so nice she'd finally got to meet me.

Whoever the USASG member was who made that recommendation, I owe you one.

CookyJar.Wow. She's a blast from the past. I can't remember her name but she's been around probably 10 years off and on. Really nice girl. Great personality and accommodating. Think she has a few kids and fell off the wagon again recently.

SkyBlue2
11-05-19, 04:14
Come on fellows, speak up. This one's no spinner, but she's a jewel, a diamond in the rough. Surely someone out there in Mongerland knows her name. Surely someone knows her true value. Surely, I can't be the only one with something nice to say about this gem.

I cannot remember her name, but she knew mine. She said another USASG member had recommended me and that it was so nice she'd finally got to meet me.

Whoever the USASG member was who made that recommendation, I owe you one.

CookyJar.Kristen, She Now a Guest of The State Again! Know her for Over 10 Years Now.

Gator145
11-05-19, 08:49
Come on fellows, speak up. This one's no spinner, but she's a jewel, a diamond in the rough. Surely someone out there in Mongerland knows her name. Surely someone knows her true value. Surely, I can't be the only one with something nice to say about this gem.

I cannot remember her name, but she knew mine. She said another USASG member had recommended me and that it was so nice she'd finally got to meet me.

Whoever the USASG member was who made that recommendation, I owe you one.

CookyJar.The name she goes by out there is Christine. Nice girl. I've known her for a number of years. Can be seen usually walking from K and A headed towards Sedgley, which seems to be her port 'o call these days. I worry about her cause she does get very wasted. Afraid somebody will hurt her or take advantage of her. Me. I'm just an 'OL Gator.

CookyJar
11-07-19, 22:10
Not that it helps because finding her will be more luck than anything else but where did you run across her?That's an good assumption. Unless otherwise specified, any girl whose pictures and reviews are posted here in the Philadelphia Forum, was found in the Kensington Avenue area.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
11-07-19, 22:10
Wow. She's a blast from the past. I can't remember her name but she's been around probably 10 years off and on. Really nice girl. Great personality and accommodating….I totally agree. She's a nice one, with a great personality and very accommodating. She gave me everything I wanted.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
11-07-19, 22:11
Kristen, She Now a Guest of The State Again! Know her for Over 10 Years Now.Sorry to hear this. I really liked her and was hoping to see her again soon.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
11-07-19, 22:18
The name she goes by out there is Christine. Nice girl. I've known her for a number of years. Can be seen usually walking from K and A headed towards Sedgley, which seems to be her port 'o call these days. I worry about her cause she does get very wasted. Afraid somebody will hurt her or take advantage of her. Me. I'm just an 'OL Gator.These picture were taken back during the hot summer months, hint the shorts. If memory serves me, I found her on a side street, behind the area that was once called the Bull dealership.

CookyJar.

TrinitHugz
11-13-19, 03:18
Met her Sunday night off the ave by that side street by Walgreens before Allegheny. Very very very badddd af BBBJ. Give her ah 11 On the 1-10scale’. Very polite and professional..went to her spot 2 mins away from where She got in my ride. She was wearing a black leather coat and blue jeans that night..didn’t have any digits fellas.

CookyJar
11-15-19, 00:19
Met her Sunday night off the ave by that side street by Walgreens before Allegheny. Very very very badddd af BBBJ. Give her ah 11 On the 1-10scale. Very polite and professional..went to her spot 2 mins away from where She got in my ride. She was wearing a black leather coat and blue jeans that night..didnt have any digits fellas.A little help from a friend.

CookyJar.

MongerSeeker
11-15-19, 06:41
Socal is really lame these days. The big problem is the girls kept insisting on working the same small areas. Can't understand why the girls insist on working a small 3 or 4 block area. So this makes it easy for the cops to crack.


The west coast is a different world. Back in the 80's (before my time) the hot SW's could be found on Sunset boulevard, and up into the early 2000's on Figueroa street. I'm assuming gentrification, drugs, giving pimps hard jail time, and other things wiped that street culture out.

But just like you said TJ is close. I use to work at a gym in 2001 and had a buddy that I met at that gym who use to go to TJ almost every other weekend and come back and tell me all his crazy adventures with the girls down there. This was before I knew about what I know now. He would come back so alive and happy. He was a water delivery driver.

That said, probably the most beautiful women I have ever seen in my life were just walking around in California or they could be bagging your groceries. By far the Rockabilly chicks to me are the hottest that culture is only out in California.

In California you have all the women from all races. Japanese, Korean, Mexican, El Salvadorian, European, African, mix, ect, you name it. Here in the east especially in Philadelphia we don't have such variety.

Gator145
11-15-19, 09:31
A little help from a friend.

CookyJar.That pic is Audrey / Sunshine. She will usually stroll from Clearfield to around Westmoreland. Although last week I did speak with her down by Needle Park.

Audrey comes and goes. Gets cleaned up a bit then the demons pull her back into the firepit. I've known her a number of years. Cleans up rather well. There have been some lackluster reviews about her but she doesn't create any issues. She applies for the bob and gets it done. As with all the addicted she struggles to kick the demons. Just can't do it. It's a lot harder than it may look to those of us that are nonaddicted. Audrey is usually one of the better dressed available. She knows the value of her make up and a bath.

There are three Audrey's on the strip that I know of. May be more but who really knows? There's this one that goes by both Audrey and Sunshine. There's a taller Audrey with brown hair and a long ponytail. She rolls between Clearfield, where she shops then will stroll all the way to as far as Buckius. She bathes regularly and dresses well also. Then there's the shorter Audrey a little on the chubby side since she came back out. She works from around Sedgley down to Tioga, Ontario, Westmoreland area. She used to work the Sergeant and Jasper area. She was a regular staple a year or two back. Like I mentioned she's a bit chubby.

As far as I know all three Audreys are not problems out there. Never known of any of them to do anything but the job at hand and be on their way. Best, no matter what I may say, to always be on guard for the unexpected. Safety first. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

DonTrask
11-17-19, 09:43
Cruising K Avenue headed north, I spotted an attractive looking blonde on Somerset (not my favorite corner, far too much drug activity) so I bang a quick right and make the scoop. She looks good enough to bang so I up the donation for a detour to Le Carlyle so I can fully sample the goods.

I can't retrace the conversation in route but somehow she informs me that she once graced the pages of Cookjar on this very website. So after a successful romp and a particularity skilled BJ (deep and slow, just how I like it), curiosity got the best of me and I decided to seek out her review. The advance search option for Carol (the name she gave me) proved useless because as it turns out, Review #6484 called her the Anon Girl (no reference as to its meaning) and in the same paragraph, admitted she had mentioned her name but Cookjar forgot it. So for what's it worth, her name is Carol, her oral skills are up there and she is a pleasant and well manner provider, no attitude, but a junkie, just like 99% of the service providers that call K Ave their office.

Texaco Tim
11-17-19, 10:58
Think you meant #6864 TT.

LookingOn
12-11-19, 04:52
Congratulations on 15 years CookyJar's Streetwalker Photos thread.

CookyJar
12-11-19, 22:49
Congratulations on 15 years CookyJar's Streetwalker Photos thread.Really! It seems like just yesterday.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
12-11-19, 23:48
Really! It seems like just yesterday.

CookyJar.I am still active and having a ball, over in Camden on Broadway.

I will return to Kensington once I've exhausted my opportunities on Broadway.

FYI: Here's a sample picture of Lauren, a fit little spinner. If you'd like to see more, go to the South Jersey, General thread.

CookyJar.

TrinitHugz
12-20-19, 19:58
I am still active and having a ball, over in Camden on Broadway.

I will return to Kensington once I've exhausted my opportunities on Broadway.

FYI: Here's a sample picture of Lauren, a fit little spinner. If you'd like to see more, go to the South Jersey, General thread.

CookyJar.Not badd at all. Some out there are skinny but not as cute as Lauren you have right there.

Squonk64
12-24-19, 21:35
Happy 15! Does this bring back any memories? It is not me in the video. I did not record it. But an hour long video of one of K Street's all time best is worth sharing. High five! Love your work, CJ! Keep up the good work and stay safe.

https://hotmovs.com/videos/1028205/sneakytaboo-barely-legal-spinner2/

CookyJar
12-25-19, 20:49
Happy 15! Does this bring back any memories? It is not me in the video. I did not record it. But an hour long video of one of K Street's all time best is worth sharing. High five! Love your work, CJ! Keep up the good work and stay safe.

https://hotmovs.com/videos/1028205/sneakytaboo-barely-legal-spinner2/Yes it does. I remember Suzy fondly. I never understood why this guy never showed her completely nude, she had a beautiful body. I was told that there were other videos. Back then she hung out with this beautiful girl of color, Rochelle. I was told he'd done a video of Rochelle and her, and maybe one of Rochelle alone. (In one of the clip Suzy mentions a black friend.).

Suzy was in a bad accident, last (last summer) I heard she was still around. Her appearance (body) has changed and her skills have improved greatly. (Rochelle has been off the scene for years.)

CookyJar.

CookyJar
12-25-19, 22:21
Hey fellow mongers. I'm back in the hobby after years away (engagement just ended) and had to try this girlie, based on pics and the ad:
http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/muscular-and-sweet/951853879607
First things first- she's a nice enough girl, but her attitude about the deed sucked. Well she's about 30 lbs lighter from a terrible habit, her words (I don'ht judge). She had the complain / annoyed thing going on right from go. The little head was still thinking. When we got going she started with a pretty good BBBJ but about 2 minutes, after complaining about my size, she said something like "well I don't want to take up all our time with head" Oh damn this isn't going to end well is what I thought. She was ok with FSBB so after a few more minutes of head we decided on mish. As soon as I went in just a little she started complaining. I went slow and gentle but she was complaining and clinching her body. So I was like fuck this shit. I told her to just go and would pay her for a ss rather than the half. Her pimp / driver just texted me complaining about how much I gave her. Stupid shit I'm dealing with now. Posting a pic too- she doesn't like her ad anymore.


Please follow this link to: Lauren a fit little spinner , over in the South Jersey, General Thread. Even if you don't visit or hunt in NJ, it might be to your advantage to check out the Jersey threads, once in a while. You may not visit the Jersey area, but many of the girls do and many of the guys who visit NJ often come over to Kensington. Information is power.

I had a great time hanging out with Lauren and would recommend her. As I have said time and time again, it is all about timing. Maybe, I just got lucky, maybe I got with her at a good time. I find that the photography/modeling thing sometimes gives me a little advantage. The 15 to 30 minutes of time playing around, joking and getting to know each other during the photo session gives the girls an opportunity to relax. After the date, most of the girls comment on their own and say they totally enjoyed having their photos taken. They enjoy playing the model.

While, I may not be hung like a horse...I'm not tiny, either. Might I suggest carrying a small bottle of lube in your glove box? As much as we'd like to believe these girls get all hot and wet for us...that may not always be the case. Also, while this probably is not true in you case, there are some guys who think because they are dealing with hookers and paying for it, good hygiene isn't necessary. Hookers have noses and are often willing to stick them in the oddest places. And, just like guys don't want to smell a funky pussy, girls prefer a guy with a fresh scent. Often guys figure that because they are paying, they have no other obligations to making the experience a good one.


...from a terrible habit, her words (I don'ht judge)...
...Posting a pic too- she doesn't like her ad anymore.

Just one more thing to consider, none of these girls do this (Suck dick and fuck) out of love. They do it for the money. They are not doing it for food or rent, they don't do it to take care of the kids or pay bills, they need the money to feed their habits. There are no exceptions. They are all users. They all have terrible habits (when it comes to drugs, all habits are terrible). Even if there are no visible signs, if they say they're not and if in your heart you want to believe they are not...don't fool yourself, the money they get from you will end up going to some dealer, that's a fact. Believe it!

My pictures are recent, taken last month.

CookyJar

Strange
12-25-19, 23:19
Please follow this link to: Lauren a fit little spinner , over in the South Jersey, General Thread. Even if you don't visit or hunt in NJ, it might be to your advantage to check out the Jersey threads, once in a while. You may not visit the Jersey area, but many of the girls do and many of the guys who visit NJ often come over to Kensington. Information is power.

I had a great time hanging out with Lauren and would recommend her. As I have said time and time again, it is all about timing. Maybe, I just got lucky, maybe I got with her at a good time. I find that the photography/modeling thing sometimes gives me a little advantage. The 15 to 30 minutes of time playing around, joking and getting to know each other during the photo session gives the girls an opportunity to relax. After the date, most of the girls comment on their own and say they totally enjoyed having their photos taken. They enjoy playing the model.

While, I may not be hung like a horse...I'm not tiny, either. Might I suggest carrying a small bottle of lube in your glove box? As much as we'd like to believe these girls get all hot and wet for us...that may not always be the case. Also, while this probably is not true in you case, there are some guys who think because they are dealing with hookers and paying for it, good hygiene isn't necessary. Hookers have noses and are often willing to stick them in the oddest places. And, just like guys don't want to smell a funky pussy, girls prefer a guy with a fresh scent. Often guys figure that because they are paying, they have no other obligations to making the experience a good one.



Just one more thing to consider, none of these girls do this (Suck dick and fuck) out of love. They do it for the money. They are not doing it for food or rent, they don't do it to take care of the kids or pay bills, they need the money to feed their habits. There are no exceptions. They are all users. They all have terrible habits (when it comes to drugs, all habits are terrible). Even if there are no visible signs, if they say they're not and if in your heart you want to believe they are not...don't fool yourself, the money they get from you will end up going to some dealer, that's a fact. Believe it!

My pictures are recent, taken last month.

CookyJarI for one agree with you. I try my best to respect these girls knowing who and what they are. But in the end they're people just like all of us. They have their addiction and I have mine. To be honest we're not that different. I just shove pussy in my arm. They deserve respect as much as I do.

If I've worked all day I really do try to shower before picking a girl up. There are exceptions but I do try to. If it's one of those days when I'm trying to date several girls I try to at least take short shower between. That's what I would want so that's what I try to do. Don't get me wrong if I see a gem right after I'm still stopping but as a rule I try.

CookyJar
12-26-19, 10:54
I for one agree with you. I try my best to respect these girls knowing who and what they are. But in the end they're people just like all of us. They have their addiction and I have mine. To be honest we're not that different. I just shove pussy in my arm. They deserve respect as much as I doNicely said!

Here is something else that I've notice. A lot of USASexGuide members only give reviews or comment when something bad or negative happens to them. We never hear about the good times, only the bad times. And, we never hear the girl's side of things. We always hear about the girls who upsell, but we never hear about the guys who low-ball every chance they get. Think about it! Most guys believe low-balling is a good thing and upselling is a bad thing. The truth is; if you play the game right, sometimes you get them and sometimes you get got. Play the game right and you break even.

CookyJar.

CookyJar
12-26-19, 11:31
… Even if you don't visit or hunt in NJ, it might be to your advantage to check out the Jersey threads, once in a while. You may not visit the Jersey area, but many of the girls do and many of the guys who visit NJ often come over to Kensington. Information is power…
CookyJarThis is Phoenix from her internet ads. Please follow this link to: Re: Phoenix (Another NJ spinner) , over in the South Jersey, General Thread, to see my recent photos taken in November.

CookyJar.

JayLovesJenny
12-26-19, 12:04
Happy 15! Does this bring back any memories? It is not me in the video. I did not record it. But an hour long video of one of K Street's all time best is worth sharing. High five! Love your work, CJ! Keep up the good work and stay safe.

https://hotmovs.com/videos/1028205/sneakytaboo-barely-legal-spinner2/I LOVE that video!! I wish I could meet her. Is she still available?

Strange
12-26-19, 23:25
Nicely said!

Here is something else that I've notice. A lot of USASexGuide members only give reviews or comment when something bad or negative happens to them. We never hear about the good times, only the bad times. And, we never hear the girl's side of things. We always hear about the girls who upsell, but we never hear about the guys who low-ball every chance they get. Think about it! Most guys believe low-balling is a good thing and upselling is a bad thing. The truth is; if you play the game right, sometimes you get them and sometimes you get got. Play the game right and you break even.

CookyJar.Wise words. I do feel you on that. It seems like I go though periods when I'm just so lucky, then my luck flips to bad, then back to good again. It's sorta like hooker chi. I'm really not joking. It's like a yin and yang thing.

I have to say though lately the Eros prices have been creeping into the regular market. I'm never going to be the guy who rolls up on a girl on the street with a Hamilton and try to get something. But on the inverse I'm not going to pay $265 hhr either. It's all about finding that happy medium.

Another great find. I'm going to go check out your newest find in SJ now.

TurdMuffin
12-27-19, 16:08
Please follow this link to: Lauren a fit little spinner , over in the South Jersey, General Thread. ....
My pictures are recent, taken last month.

CookyJarSeems santa has been really nice to you General this year. Nice pix. I look for harlots like these down south but this one would panzer them out on best days. Can't wait to see what you do in 2020.

VizioSeven
12-29-19, 16:21
I call her my librarian because I met her in a library and she looks like a librarian doesn't she? As one would expect she is quiet and submissive: does everything she is told. She likes to be quiet even during sex but, shades of "Groundhog Day," she makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets really excited. Hearing her breathlessly squeak as she bounces up and down on my cock is so perversely enjoyable. She is dutifully good without complaint for as long and for as many cups as I can manage. I love to fish hook her as I am doing her doggy. Some day I will get a tripod and catch that action as it happens.

Once I didn't have time to go to a hotel and we did it in the car like two teenagers. I reported on this a while back. I will dig out some extra photos from this and post them sometime. I never had so much fun in a car when I was actually a teenager. Some things actually do get better with age.

Life IS good my brothers.Where can I find her dose she a number?

CookyJar
02-24-20, 22:29
It's not that I have abandon Kensington Avenue and the Philadelphia forum; it is the fact that I have been having such a good time in Camden on Broadway. A few weeks ago, while driving pass Huntingdon Station, I saw Ashley standing there watching traffic. She had a cute face and what appeared to be a robust figure hidden under her winter garments.

I like to think of myself as an Equal-Opportunity-Monger. I believe that, as long as the girl is physically clean, reasonably attractive, over 21 years old and not acting like a nut case; she should be given the equal opportunity of sucking my dick. I do have a preference for petite spinner types. But! Having said all that, I must admit I have always had a fondness for big legs and a smile.

What I prize the most is a good attitude and good performance. Ashley has both. The room we were in was chilly-as-hell, so I let Ashley keep on her hoodie. (The lack of good cheap accommodations in Philadelphia is another reason for my frequent trips to NJ.) The photo session was cut short do to the chill and because another room became available.

After moving to another room, with heat, we decided to forgo additional photos. We used the balance of our time together getting to know each other.

Ashley is now a new favorite of mine.

CookyJar.

Gator145
02-25-20, 01:46
Ashley is now a new favorite of mine.
CookyJar.Great job CookyJar. Ashley has been a friend of mine a few years now. She has a great personality and is quite willing to go the extra mile to see to it you get the service you want and deserve. Iv'e never heard anyone complain about her. She has that sexy seductive look about her. It's good to see you are back doing what you love. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

JerseyDevil52
02-25-20, 09:23
I finally met Sharon last night. Man was she great. I remember seeing Sharon on CJ's photos a couple years ago and thought to myself, I'd love to meet her. I was finally lucky enough to bump into her. Since CJ's photo, she's lost some weight and is totally that hot spinner mom next door type. Or lack of better words. A MILF. Before we finished talking, I got her number and off she went. I hope to see her again soon. Below is a photo to jog everyone's memory. Hope CJ doesn't mind me borrowing his photo.

Bazeball
02-29-20, 15:00
I picked her up about ten years ago up near Liddonfield projects. I recognized her big ears that I used to control her head.

It was a good experience.

Djs0182
03-27-20, 02:27
Ann is still my go to provider. She always takes it up a notch or two. I don't think I have ever done a photo shoot with just Ann. Maybe someday I will catch her when I am alone.

Ann and Michelle are two defying girls, together; they are not for the faint-of-heart.

CookyJar.Don't know if it's been reported, but sadly Michelle is no longer with us. I have a few memories of our time together. Here's a sample.

CookyJar
04-19-20, 23:17
I have been out of town, on a road trip and unable to keep up with my correspondence. Prior to my trip, YoshiRed was kind enough to private message me a heads-up regarding the information in a post that he would be placing in the public forums of both Philadelphia and New Jersey. In this PM to me, it was kind of implied that the recommendations which I had made, involving Phoenix's behavior and personality, were largely considered in his decision to set-up a date. I got the impression that he sees me as partly to blame.


Just wanted to warn everyone here about Phoenix who posts on Skipthegames.
http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/95-pound-spinner-greek-availab/298465130494
I'll keep this short because I'm still pissed about what happened. She agrees to get a room for us. We agreed on 300 for 90 min. We meet up and she's very nice and physically my type. Conversation was pleasant but she wastes over an hour texted nonstop on her phone before finally taking a shower. Comes out and at this point over 90 min have gone by but she assures me we're good and I'll get my time. Then starts texting again and then tells me her driver (pimp) says my time is up and I have to go. I look out the window and see two black guys in a Nissan suv so I just put my clothes on and proceed to get the hell out of there but she tells me she didn't know this would happen and that she'll make it up to me and we'll get together privately. Tried texting her a few times this past week and she just ignores me so obviously I got taken. I"m done, stay safe guys.YoshiRed has every right to be pissed about what happened. Yes! He has every right to be pissed. But! He should not be pissed at me. Nor should he be upset about my endorsement. $300 dollars is a lot to lose for anyone of modest income. To that end, I would like to offer this information given by 'OL Gator, in response to another mongers loss of money.


I agree 100%. Its a shame you got burned for your money. But it wasn't a total loss. You bought an education. There's something positive that comes from it. It's best to think in this game everyone you make contact with will screw you over. Because given the proper conditions they will. It's been proven time and time again.
I have no doubt your intentions was honorable. Just look at the elements you are dealing with. What are their intentions? Their intent is to get as much money from us as they can for doing as little as they need to do as quickly as possible. Then they move on tho the next one. That is what we need to compute. Not real difficult to understand.
I always look at the situation this way. If you give a girl in this business your funds up front what incentive is there for her not to screw you over? She's accomplished her goal. She has what she wants. Once she sees the green the wheels begin to turn. She's thinking wow that was easy. I've said it before, never give any of these girls your funds till you have what you want. Always be ready to walk away from any deal that you are not in complete control of. Money in this game is control. The control passes to the person you gave your funds to. Agreed? Lose your money you lose control. Then anything can and will happen. Every girl in this game knows this first hand. They talk about it among themselves.
If you can't walk away knowing you will find another girl then you don't belong in the game. It's the people that pay up front that create the problem. They will blame the girl every time but it's them. Guys that can't focus on anything past what's in front of them. So they throw caution and safety to the wind. Then they lose the game. If everyone put their foot down and said No More then the rip offs would come to a screeching halt. Plain and simple.
Don't be the person that screws yourself. Don't place that dick in your own ass on the way out the door. I assume your money comes as hard to you as mine comes to me. NEVER EVER give a girl in this game front money. Simply tell her when you get what you are paying for the funds come after. She may say she doesn't do it that way. She's been screwed to many times.
Tell her you are sorry she's been taken advantage of but so have you, So now you set the rules. Stick to it. Tell her she's welcome to find another client that will do things her way. You do things your way. Then if she goes move on. Remember if she leaves and you move on you are going with your funds still in your pocket. So who's the winner here? Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.To further free myself of any guilt regarding YoshiRed's loss, I would like to offer these three testimonials, given by others.


I went to an incall with her a few weeks back and besides the fact she only allows for one cup, there were no real issues. She wasnt on the phone at all for me. She smoked a cigarette in the bathroom though which only took her a few minutes.
She was nice enough but it was a ***** to get her to agree for a second helping due to the fact it took me over an hour and her head game is fantastic and I had to get her to stop or I was going to cum in 5 minutes. She allows daty. Does not all fiv. Paid for greek. But didn't last long due to her head game earlier. I did get her to a second round but yeah. That was annoying.
She is the type where you should only pay for either a qv or hh due to the one and done aspect.
But again she was nit on her phone at all.I'm assuming Den86 met, "not on her phone at all. ".


I saw Phoenix last week. 200 for hour. Incall very nice hotel. Safe, clean room.
She performed incredible. BBBJ full GFE looked great wearing pair of ripped black leggings and a black sports bra. Hair was down. Make up done smelled great. Had a very pretty gf there as well I will see this week. I wore condom and went 2 x. Got my moneys worth for sure. Tipped her 40.Personally, I'd take this one with a grain of salt. Few mongers are going to give a $40 tip on top of a $200 fee.


… a smiling spinner did appear. It turned out to be Phoenix. Now, I hadn't read the General thread before that, and I wish I had because I would've known how special an occasion this was. She has a great attitude, is super friendly, and cool with whatever. I wish I'd had a room, because I would've been glad to keep her for a more special experience. Since she hasn't posted on stg in awhile, I assume she lost her digits, but I didn't even try, because it's generally futile. I just hope I run into her again sometime.So there it is. Is the fault on me? I think not. I never like hearing that a fellow monger has had a bad time of it. The loss of $300 buck would piss me off to no end. Yet! In this case, I don't feel any blame. It's true, my reviews on Phoenix, in the South Jersey General thread are glowing. However, it should always be remembered that, YMMV.

Never give any girl, especially a known streetwalker, $300 upfront.

CookyJar.

Gator145
04-20-20, 15:12
CookyJar and I have been personal friends much longer than I can remember. In the many years we have been friends I'll say this. He has never to my knowledge taken advantage of anybody for any amount of money. He has given away more money than most of us have lost in this game. He has no need to set anybody up for any girl. He's simply not that type of person.

I'm sorry the other monger lost money because he met a girl CookyJar spoke highly of. It's a shame. I will say this that Cookyjar had nothing to do with his nor anybody's loss.

When any of us post here, lets understand, we speak of our own experience. He always point's out YMMV. We, as well as those that lose money, can't predict how things will go. Hell, if I lost $300 to some girl so I could watch her text on her phone I would be pissed also. I just wouldn't blame any one but myself for allowing it to happen. Let's face it who gave the girl the $300.00? CookyJar? Hmmmmm.

If we find ourselves in a situation that may require giving front money, walk away. It's not worth the risk. If we feel we can't or don't want to walk away then put up 25% - 50%. Tell them they get the balance when the task is finished. Never give a girl money you can't afford to lose or spend.

I have publicly spoke out against the practice of giving front money over and over. I've been cursed, threatened, yelled at because all I'm trying to do is keep people from this exact situation.

When you arrange to see a girl your money is in your pocket. Right along side of the control. Hand her the money and you hand her control. If that makes you comfortable then by all means do it. Just don't cry when you go out the door with a dick in your ass instead of lips around your dick. It seems pretty simple. It's nobody's fault but our own when that happens.
Why in the world would someone pay for something they don't have?

When guys with the funds begin to understand she needs you more than you need her this shit will stop. There are dozens of women that will not screw you over. It's all part of being safe in the game. Be a winner don't be the loser. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

JTown74
04-20-20, 21:36
CookyJar and I have been personal friends much longer than I can remember. In the many years we have been friends I'll say this. He has never to my knowledge taken advantage of anybody for any amount of money. He has given away more money than most of us have lost in this game. He has no need to set anybody up for any girl. He's simply not that type of person.

I'm sorry the other monger lost money because he met a girl CookyJar spoke highly of. It's a shame. I will say this that Cookyjar had nothing to do with his nor anybody's loss.

When any of us post here, lets understand, we speak of our own experience. He always point's out YMMV. We, as well as those that lose money, can't predict how things will go. Hell, if I lost $300 to some girl so I could watch her text on her phone I would be pissed also. I just wouldn't blame any one but myself for allowing it to happen. Let's face it who gave the girl the $300.00? CookyJar? Hmmmmm.

If we find ourselves in a situation that may require giving front money, walk away. It's not worth the risk. If we feel we can't or don't want to walk away then put up 25% - 50%. Tell them they get the balance when the task is finished. Never give a girl money you can't afford to lose or spend.

I have publicly spoke out against the practice of giving front money over and over. I've been cursed, threatened, yelled at because all I'm trying to do is keep people from this exact situation.

When you arrange to see a girl your money is in your pocket. Right along side of the control. Hand her the money and you hand her control. If that makes you comfortable then by all means do it. Just don't cry when you go out the door with a dick in your ass instead of lips around your dick. It seems pretty simple. It's nobody's fault but our own when that happens.
Why in the world would someone pay for something they don't have?

When guys with the funds begin to understand she needs you more than you need her this shit will stop. There are dozens of women that will not screw you over. It's all part of being safe in the game. Be a winner don't be the loser. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Folks need to understand this.

Most of these girls are addicts. All of them are in less than ideal circumstances. Some have crazy boyfriend / family stuff. This means you can't expect 100% consistency. Not to even mention that everyone has bad and good days. I do better work some days than others.

Finally, there's a personal element to this. These are human beings, what ever else is happening. Sometimes some people don't hit it off.

All of which is to say that a recommendation is not a guaranty. The same girl one loves might not do well with another. She may be high one day, or have had some insane problem that day.

THERE ARE NO HOBBY GUARANTEES!

Gator has done nothing but give good advice and hook people up. CJ shares his wisdom and "finds" to all of our benefit.

DonTrask
04-20-20, 22:18
Folks need to understand this.

Most of these girls are addicts.

Gator has done nothing but give good advice and hook people up. CJ shares his wisdom and "finds" to all of our benefit.I would go so far as to say all the SW's are addicts, as in 100% so my rebuttal is to your use of the word, "most".

My goal is to find the relatively new arrival of the addict to K Avenue. As many will attest, the streets can age a provider in just a matter of months. So if you can hit one when they are relatively new to the street, its almost like playing lotto. The odds are very much against you but its hitting a winner (even at the lowest modest levels) that provides enormous satisfaction and keeps you coming back thinking the next one will be the big payoff. In reality, the big payoff is an unattainable myth but nobody hobbies thinking it is not totally out of reach.

BigFriknNutz
04-21-20, 05:35
I have been out of town, on a road trip and unable to keep up with my correspondence. Prior to my trip, YoshiRed was kind enough to private message me a heads-up regarding the information in a post that he would be placing in the public forums of both Philadelphia and New Jersey. In this PM to me, it was kind of implied that the recommendations which I had made, involving Phoenix's behavior and personality, were largely considered in his decision to set-up a date. I got the impression that he sees me as partly to blame.

YoshiRed has every right to be pissed about what happened. Yes! He has every right to be pissed. But! He should not be pissed at me. Nor should he be upset about my endorsement. $300 dollars is a lot to lose for anyone of modest income. To that end, I would like to offer this information given by 'OL Gator, in response to another mongers loss of money.

To further free myself of any guilt regarding YoshiRed's loss, I would like to offer these three testimonials, given by others.

I'm assuming Den86 met, "not on her phone at all. ".Paying any girl 300 especially if you could get her off the street for a fraction of that price. Criminal.