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ZERO is the number you are looking for. Not a single working girl that I know who married a honey (sorry customer) has ever made it longer than 3 years. You get them to stop working you need to have lots of money to spend. They love to go to the spa (womens day spa) go shopping or watch tv all day. I know one guy who was going to buy his girl a flower shop to run, she was good at arranging flowers. No way, work like on my feet? It is a hard relationship. They live in a dream world. And we keep them there. How many of these girls are in their late 30's early 40's? Yes they still look good and can they perform but age is catching up to them. Sorry, I have seen too many guys fall and then loose all their money, job for what they thought was real true love. Remember they are actors and we are the audience. Just my last bit of knowledge.There's at least one couple running one of the better spas in the area that have made it work. But, a long shot at best for the rest of us daydreamers.
Hugh Handsoman
08-02-06, 19:26
ZERO is the number you are looking for. Not a single working girl that I know who married a honey (sorry customer) has ever made it longer than 3 years. You get them to stop working you need to have lots of money to spend. They love to go to the spa (womens day spa) go shopping or watch tv all day. I know one guy who was going to buy his girl a flower shop to run, she was good at arranging flowers. No way, work like on my feet? It is a hard relationship. They live in a dream world. And we keep them there. How many of these girls are in their late 30's early 40's? Yes they still look good and can they perform but age is catching up to them. Sorry, I have seen too many guys fall and then loose all their money, job for what they thought was real true love. Remember they are actors and we are the audience. Just my last bit of knowledge.
If you believe you are the ONLY playa on her G-string, guess again.
Odysseus 46
08-03-06, 07:24
Navy One and Kimchi have it right. This is a hobby and world like none other I have experienced, and many of these Asian women are such wonderful fantasies. Their talent is making you believe you are the center of their world -- for an hour.
For most of us, who work hard and support families and often feel taken for granted, this hour or two of escape with a woman who looks good, seems devoted to our wellbeing and is so good at the fundamentals we need, is well worth the effort to pull off.
As for me, I would hate to think I would never be with one again -- but I also know I am one of many on her list of customers. For an old guy, this is just fine.
O 46
Sarang Haeyo
08-03-06, 07:26
If you believe you are the ONLY playa on her G-string, guess again. These cunning masters of deception will cut your heart out, and toss it up with some rice for lunch. Don't believe me!?? See fo' yo'selfOuch!
I've done my best throughout life not to categorize groups of people. I tend to treat on an individual basis. Having been married to a woman who I thought was "the one" has hardened me to the point where having my heart cut out is not in the cards.
I would suggest this to any of you guys contemplating a relationship outside the AMP: have fun, don't set your expectations too high, take your time and be honest. If your girl turns out to be a fraud; so be it. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
If mine turns out to be less than expected; so be it. I'm having the time of my life now and after years of an unhappy marriage, I deserve it.
One last thing: if anyone thinks that the AMP girls are the only women in the world who will F**K you over; think again. You've got as much of a chance of getting hosed with another "type."
Man who look for love in massage parlor not even get good massage.
Freshly Snipes
08-03-06, 09:41
Yesterday was my first time at the coverted CHPC spa. This has got to be the spa where all the celebrities go to when they're in town because it looked so upscale (with the leather massage chair in the room and all), and it's just a hop and a skip away from the metro, literally, for those of you that don't have your own transportation.
I went there arond 7:45 last might, rang the bell and mamasan let me in. she was very friendly and seemed a lot younger than the other ones i've seen at places like Supra and DT. It was amusing to see that each room had it's own name on the door. I was escorted into the 'Rose' room. She took the 60 from me then asked who i wanted. I didn't want to tell her it was my first time, so i threw out a name i had seen on here 'Joy'(?). She told me Joy was busy, but that 'Susie' was available. I said o.k and got undressed. In comes 'Susie'. Nice personality. Didn't ask her age but said she had been there a while. Laughed alot. About 5'6" with enhanced breasts and nice thick legs. Light brown highlights in hair. She walked me to the TS area and in we went.
Now the TS was probably the most interesting one i've ever had. I have never been to an AMP where there are 2 tables within the shower area. Half way through this long TS, another girl and her client come in while i'm butt naked on the table! Sure there was a curtain divider, but it was a little unnerving! Then to add insult to injury Susie my provider peaked over, because she apparently recognized the mongers voice ,and started up a full conversation with this other guy while she was showering me! The guy wouldn't shut up and kept 'trying' to talk korean (that Susie had apparently been teaching him before). He just didn't realise how ridiculous he sounded saying things like " I miss you too honey, long time no see" doing his best korean inpersonation (let me find out the idiot behind the curtain was VD or Moonview :D). Anyway the TS lasted for about 15 minutes. Beside the interruption my only other complaint was that she spent like 10 minutes fingering my ass, which i hate. She stopped when she noticed me constantly tensing up.
Back at the room she gave a nice, hard massage. The beds over here were alot harder than the ones at Supra and DT-i didn't like that either. After the massage she undresses, and i get some good thorough AR (which is probaby why she was soaping my ass so thoroughly), then a CBJ from the 69 position. She has an incredible body but DATY is not my thing, so i just kissed her legs and butt. She jumped into RCG, then switched to doggy then to mish. For some reason i couldn't cum, so she walked me over to the leather chair, bent over and let me hit it there but still no victory. So she gets another condomn, got on her knees and gave me another CBJ with alot of BLS. Still i couldn't cum, so she got some baby oil, rubbed it over her tits and let me titty fuck her for about 5 minutes, and i finally finished. She took me back to the shower area and we showered together nude. This was the first time i had been given 2 showers. I paid her, got dressed and left. She was really patient and determined to get me off, even after me repeatedly telling her "It's ok, it's not you, i'm just tired". She definately is an A plus worker. I looked at my watch and it was 9:10, so i definaitely got an hour plus.
Susie- definate repeat.
Phew, ok i tried to cram the entire report right here, as i seemed to be on everyones PM shit list :).
Happy and safe hunting all.
Face-8/10
Attitude-9
Body-8.5
Determination to please -100!
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Hi guys,
A couple of forum members have contacted me to express their concerns that this report contains too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Don't be so nieve as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's server are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE=Golgo13] "The guy wouldn't shut up and kept 'trying' to talk korean (that Susie had apparently been teaching him before). He just didn't realise how ridiculous he sounded saying things like " I miss you too honey, long time no see" doing his best korean inpersonation (let me find out the idiot behind the curtain has VD or Moonview :D)".
Hey G13-
Sorry to hear of her distraction; unfortunately it wasn't me. Maybe she wasn't that impressed with what she had on her side of the curtain to keep her interest on her job! :(
Congrats _finally_ on a good review!
MnV
Ouch!
I've done my best throughout life not to categorize groups of people. I tend to treat ... ...who will F**K you over; think again. You've got as much of a chance of getting hosed with another "type."Uh, yeah sure fine. Just don't give her access to your bank account.
I would like to start off by thanking a few certain members on the board, (You know who you are ), for introducing me to an awsome girl by the name of Yoko.
I would like to start off by thanking a few certain members of the board, ( you know who you are ), for introducing me to Yoko at Happiness. I saw her the other night for the second time and she was spectacular. Someone had mentioned in a previous post that these girls provide fantasies and Yoko has mastered all the skills we look for in a girl. CDTBJ, AR, a wide variety of positions with such enthusiasm it leaves you yearning for more. Bad news though she told me she might be going on vacation next week, yet another rare find lost. Anyways, will probably visit HWC next week so look for my post. Safe hunting to all and to all a good night.
Sarang Haeyo
08-04-06, 07:07
Uh, yeah sure fine. Just don't give her access to your bank account.As it turns out, I have access to HER bank account. I pay her rent and her utility bill when she's working. I'll be spending the weekend at her place (I have the keys). She's working now and I have the run of the place; no roomates. I like the urban setting she's in; much better than my suburb.
I have a diamond in the rough. My ex-wife ran me through the financial wringer. It won't happen again.
Hey G13,
Sorry to hear of her distraction; unfortunately it wasn't me. Maybe she wasn't that impressed with what she had on her side of the curtain to keep her interest on her job! :(
Congrats finally on a good review!
MnVHaha! Good review though, indeed. Sounds like I need to make it up to CHPC finally.
Zhuxi
Yesterday was my first time at the coverted CHPC spa. This has got to be the spa where all the celebrities go to when they're in town because it looked so upscale (with the leather massage chair in the room and all), and it's just a hop and a skip away from the metro, literally, for those of you that don't have your own transportation.
I went there arond 7:45 last might, rang the bell and mamasan let me in. she was very friendly and seemed a lot younger than the other ones i've seen at places like Supra and DT. It was amusing to see that each room had it's own name on the door. I was escorted into the 'Rose' room. She took the 60 from me then asked who i wanted. I didn't want to tell her it was my first time, so i threw out a name i had seen on here 'Joy'(?). She told me Joy was busy, but that 'Susie' was available. I said o.k and got undressed. In comes 'Susie'. Nice personality. Didn't ask her age but said she had been there a while. Laughed alot. About 5'6" with enhanced breasts and nice thick legs. Light brown highlights in hair. She walked me to the TS area and in we went.
Now the TS was probably the most interesting one i've ever had. I have never been to an AMP where there are 2 tables within the shower area. Half way through this long TS, another girl and her client come in while i'm butt naked on the table! Sure there was a curtain divider, but it was a little unnerving! Then to add insult to injury Susie my provider peaked over, because she apparently recognized the mongers voice ,and started up a full conversation with this other guy while she was showering me! The guy wouldn't shut up and kept 'trying' to talk korean (that Susie had apparently been teaching him before). He just didn't realise how ridiculous he sounded saying things like " I miss you too honey, long time no see" doing his best korean inpersonation (let me find out the idiot behind the curtain was VD or Moonview :D). Anyway the TS lasted for about 15 minutes. Beside the interruption my only other complaint was that she spent like 10 minutes fingering my ass, which i hate. She stopped when she noticed me constantly tensing up.
Back at the room she gave a nice, hard massage. The beds over here were alot harder than the ones at Supra and DT-i didn't like that either. After the massage she undresses, and i get some good thorough AR (which is probaby why she was soaping my ass so thoroughly), then a CBJ from the 69 position. She has an incredible body but DATY is not my thing, so i just kissed her legs and butt. She jumped into RCG, then switched to doggy then to mish. For some reason i couldn't cum, so she walked me over to the leather chair, bent over and let me hit it there but still no victory. So she gets another condomn, got on her knees and gave me another CBJ with alot of BLS. Still i couldn't cum, so she got some baby oil, rubbed it over her tits and let me titty fuck her for about 5 minutes, and i finally finished. She took me back to the shower area and we showered together nude. This was the first time i had been given 2 showers. I paid her, got dressed and left. She was really patient and determined to get me off, even after me repeatedly telling her "It's ok, it's not you, i'm just tired". She definately is an A plus worker. I looked at my watch and it was 9:10, so i definaitely got an hour plus.
Susie- definate repeat.
Phew, ok i tried to cram the entire report right here, as i seemed to be on everyones PM shit list :).
Happy and safe hunting all.
Face-8/10
Attitude-9
Body-8.5
Determination to please -100!
Golgo13:
Nope not me either... I'm out of the country. And, my only Korean I know is "you want everything?". Actually, I know a little more, but not much.
But, I will have to say that was a very well laid out post and informative too.
Thanks for the intel.
VD
Freshly Snipes
08-05-06, 11:39
Golgo13:
... I'm out of the country.
VDHave fun, just be careful what you stick your dick in whereever you are.;). Foreign diseases can do some serious damage!
I plan on checking out either Happiness or Royal within the next week or 2. Look out for my post....
..the search for my beloved 'Apple' continues!
Santeesucks
08-05-06, 20:27
I took one for the team today. Given a positive report for Ying Ying at the Tyson's Corner Chinese apartment the other day, I thought I'd do some research and check it out.
In short, I got the old bait and switch. Instead of what was advertised
http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-lily17-ying1.htm
I got someone who must have been in her late 30's or early 40's. She was more like 140lbs and with droopy B's. I should have just walked out but I didn't. So it is entirely my fauly.
Anway, her tits were saggy instead of perky. Her ass was flat, her stomach had an enormous tattoo, and she had rolls on her belly. She gave me a really lame massage for 15 minutes, a 60 second CBJ, and quickly invited me to put it in her either mish or doggie.
By this time, I just wanted to get out of there. I elected mish and pumped as hard as I could for the next 10 minutes. All during this time I heard other women outside the room speaking in Chinese and "Ying Ying" moaning "Oh! You make love so good!" Not the least bit turning me on.
I took my one SOG and went home quickly to shower.
Total damage + 1.6
scores on teh scale of 10
Face - 5
Body - 3
Performance - 4
Would not repeat.
Member #4338
08-06-06, 08:28
Last time at Royal I spotted a cute girl with short hair who I found out was named Michelle. Yesterday afternoon I was on a mission to sample this new flower. Upon arrival I was told she was busy :( Mamasan gave me the choice of waiting for Michelle, Angie (5' 1", medium length brown hair, 30+ yo OK face and body but nothing to write home about, LARS 6) or Tina. Not being a patient guy, I took Tina. Should've waited for Michelle.
Tina is cute, 5' 5", 130 lbs (not chunky but full figured), long black hair, with all natural 34 C's. Little Lax was somewhat out of control so after an adequate TS back in the room things progressed quickly. She really got into the DATY and soon demanded the real deal. After some mish I told her to roll over for some doggie at which point she says that she doesn't like the canine way :( Pretty much down hill from there.
Tina
Face 7
Body 6.5
Attitude 8
Service 5
From my experience at Royal, you should call ahead for Linda (a Mrs. LL candidate) or walk next door for Yoko. For me, I still will return to see what Michelle is like.
SMWSLT
Lax
Michelle at Royal is allright I just had her a few hours ago. She cut me short on time she kept saying its to busy here and there's only 3 girls working today so all done. I think I'll be sampling some of the other places next time.
Santee,
Sorry for your experience as I think it was my post that led you there. I can assure you that the girl I had was the one in the photo, and she actually looked better in person. Could not have been a day over 21 or 22, and no fat on her body - probably the most toned AMP girl I have ever visited outside of Thailand or China.
On another note, I did once have a bait-and-switch kind of experience at a different Tyson's Chinese apartment.
I took one for the team today. Given a positive report for Ying Ying at the Tyson's Corner Chinese apartment the other day, I thought I'd do some research and check it out.
In short, I got the old bait and switch. Instead of what was advertised
http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-lily17-ying1.htm
I got someone who must have been in her late 30's or early 40's. She was more like 140lbs and with droopy B's. I should have just walked out but I didn't.
Sounds like you got mamasan. That happens when the other girls are not there or unavailable.
Damn, Man! I am sorry you hit the bag on that one! I have never been disappointed with the Chinese Condo. There was one time when the boss there wanted to do me but I passed that time. Looks like you took her up on it. I had wondered how she would be.
Try it again! Just don't take anything you don't want next time!
JJ
I took one for the team today. Given a positive report for Ying Ying at the Tyson's Corner Chinese apartment the other day, I thought I'd do some research and check it out.
In short, I got the old bait and switch. Instead of what was advertised
http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-lily17-ying1.htm
I got someone who must have been in her late 30's or early 40's. She was more like 140lbs and with droopy B's. I should have just walked out but I didn't. So it is entirely my fauly.
Anway, her tits were saggy instead of perky. Her ass was flat, her stomach had an enormous tattoo, and she had rolls on her belly. She gave me a really lame massage for 15 minutes, a 60 second CBJ, and quickly invited me to put it in her either mish or doggie.
By this time, I just wanted to get out of there. I elected mish and pumped as hard as I could for the next 10 minutes. All during this time I heard other women outside the room speaking in Chinese and "Ying Ying" moaning "Oh! You make love so good!" Not the least bit turning me on.
I took my one SOG and went home quickly to shower.
Total damage + 1.6
scores on teh scale of 10
Face - 5
Body - 3
Performance - 4
Would not repeat.
Benchseats Rock
08-07-06, 20:33
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Sorry but she will be on vacation for the next two weeks. Anyhow another great session. Sorry about the TS whoeva had Sugee. LOL. She surely likes to take a peep on the other side. Hehehe. Well that was me on the other side. Anyhow if anyone needs detail feel free to PM me. Again CPHC still top amp!
301
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Delamancha
08-08-06, 16:44
You DC guys have no IDEA how good you have it! Most of the rest of the country is lucky to get rub&tug service from 50-yr old women for an $80 door fee. So imagine my delight when I found Royal and Happiness are both in walking distance from my hotel.
This afternoon I enjoyed Angie, who is 5' tall, probably a couple years past 30, and a very nice young lady. Her English isn't so good, but she definitely went the extra mile, giving a good massage AND insisting that I get two shots on goal during my hour.
I figure to try Happiness later during my visit. I usually take the luck of the draw, but is there anyone to avoid there?
de la M.
DLM,
I second your comments and then some. I travel a lot and am based in NYC. The price/service ratio in DC can't be beat. For the same donation that provides a complete experience in this area barely gets you a nude HR in other towns. And don't get me started on RMP's where they're convinced they doing you a favor just by letting them acknowledge your presence. While the places you've tried are OK, you owe it yourself to visit CPHC. Just a Metro ride away.
You DC guys have no IDEA how good you have it! Most of the rest of the country is lucky to get rub&tug service from 50-yr old women for an $80 door fee. So imagine my delight when I found Royal and Happiness are both in walking distance from my hotel.
This afternoon I enjoyed Angie, who is 5' tall, probably a couple years past 30, and a very nice young lady. Her English isn't so good, but she definitely went the extra mile, giving a good massage AND insisting that I get two shots on goal during my hour.
I figure to try Happiness later during my visit. I usually take the luck of the draw, but is there anyone to avoid there?
de la M.
Dudeman-12
08-09-06, 07:14
I made my first visit to CPHC after they opened and I was not disappointed. Very good customer service and nice rooms in a non rushed environment. Saw Young and was not disappointed.
Backchannel me if details are required.
Happy Hunting
Face: 8
Body: 8; bolt-on milk bubbles
Service: 9
Attitude: 9
Recommend: Yes
My experience was almost an exact repeat of G13’s (3 Aug), except no problem in the shower and unfortunately no B2B at the end. Great attitude, anxious to please...
Personally, I’m not a fan of the bolt on boobs; nice to look at, but awkward to hug.
I also wanted to compliment Colts301 on his complete report of CPHC (22 July)… thanks for a great summation.
Horsetrader
08-09-06, 22:55
Coco said she just arrived on Tuesday from NYC. This is not the same Coco as at Sun. I seem to have better luck with the girls that just arrived in town, Coco was no exception.
Face: 6
Hair: 9
Body: 8 (slim and firm but she had plastic jugs)
Service: 9
Attitude: 9
Recommend: Yes
Fun, bubbly personality, but limited English. She seemed yonger than most. Excellent TS. I've never been so clean, especially in my sensitive areas. She asked if I liked a hard or soft massage, I said "medium" and that is exactly what I got.
She seemed to be a real clock watcher and timed things so we were just finishing when mamasan came knocking at the door saying "time!". About 45 minutes was TS and massage, 20 minutes for the main events, and 5 minutes to clean up and dress (1 hour 10 minutes total). I would have liked to shorten the massage and move on, but she would have none of that. Things happened too late for dual pops.
I've been to Orential about 10 times. Except for the free time, each visit lasted between 50 minutes and 1 hour 20 minutes. Only once diid I get two pops. Mamasan usually comes knocking slightly after 1 hour. The free visit lasted only about 35 minutes, maybe because it was free, maybe because they were very busy. I'm usually in and out of the other AMPs in 40 to 50 minutes.
Horsetrader
TBWNN got it moniker because of the heat that was raised when detailed reports were read by the owner and possibly LE.
Similar concerns may be at play with a recently popular amp. Gentle mongers, as a member of this fraternity I propose we cutdown on the finer details of the activities and state only that our fantasies and dreams were good or not good or use ratings such as those used by many mongers to grade their dreams. Members could always request detailed info on our dreams via PM.
happy endings
bill
Member #4338
08-10-06, 09:47
TBWNN got it moniker because of the heat that was raised when detailed reports were read by the owner and possibly LE.
Similar concerns may be at play with a recently popular amp. Gentle mongers, as a member of this fraternity I propose we cutdown on the finer details of the activities and state only that our fantasies and dreams were good or not good or use ratings such as those used by many mongers to grade their dreams. Members could always request detailed info on our dreams via PM.
happy endings
bill
Bill:
You are probably correct that it would be prudent to limit the reporting of all the details of each encounter. Having said that, I'm not sure that it matters. Readers of this board (including LE) certainly must know what the deal is at the DC AMPs. At the very least we need to have posters provide good intel about providers names, looks, attitude, quality of service and session ambience i.e. did she take her time or give you the bum's rush.
Horsetrader:
Are Oriental and 1716 Eye the same place?
Peace and love
Lax
Or as some have posted her as "Susie" offered a great massage session.
My session ran its full time and included many muscle stretching techniques that I fully appreciated.
Another great visit to CPHC! Sugee is highly recommended.(+)
PMs are welcome from established members.
MnV
Santeesucks
08-10-06, 11:15
Santee,
Sorry for your experience as I think it was my post that led you there. I can assure you that the girl I had was the one in the photo, and she actually looked better in person. Could not have been a day over 21 or 22, and no fat on her body - probably the most toned AMP girl I have ever visited outside of Thailand or China.
On another note, I did once have a bait-and-switch kind of experience at a different Tyson's Chinese apartment.Oh well. Chalk it off as research.
John Marigold
08-10-06, 14:42
Long time mongerer (20+ years), but first time poster here. I was in CPHC a few days ago and noticed they had a sign on the wall of the shower asking "golgo" to remove his post from a popular website (this one, no doubt). Management at CPHC fears that they will have to shut down for awhile if we keep posting too many details of our amp fantasies. I think CPHC seems to be more concerned about their image on this board than other amps, and there is a very good reason for their concern. Just my 2 pennies worth. Cheers.
John
Bill:
You are probably correct that it would be prudent to limit the reporting of all the details of each encounter. Having said that, I'm not sure that it matters. Readers of this board (including LE) certainly must know what the deal is at the DC AMPs. At the very least we need to have posters provide good intel about providers names, looks, attitude, quality of service and session ambience i.e. did she take her time or give you the bum's rush.
Horsetrader:
Are Oriental and 1716 Eye the same place?
Peace and love
Lax
Horsetrader
08-10-06, 18:00
Bill:
Horsetrader:
Are Oriental and 1716 Eye the same place?
Peace and love
Lax
That's the address. I think the name of the business below Orential is the "Eye Bar." Orential is at the top of the stairs.
So I took a nap this afternoon and had this dream that I made the trek up those steps this very afternoon!
The name of the place is now YK Health Club and not Oriental. Same prices and services.
I went up those steps and was taken to room 1 which is right in the front. To get to the shower we had to pass thru the TV area with the old women sitting there watching me in my towel following MICKEY down the hall.
Anyway, Mickey is kinda tall, outstand toned body, small boobs and dark complexion. I think she may well be half black from the skin shade and the even tan from all angles.
TS was great!!! Some medium massage in there with special attention to all surfaces. Mr Happy came to attention and received some nice attention focused right there. The shower was worth the $60 entry fee by itself!
Back to room one past two old women and one of the other providors watching TV.
OUTSTANDING medium to hard massage. She kept a towel on me while working over the back. Some back and leg walking was really nice too. Finished the massage aftrer about 30 minutes with a little AR and then THE question. Offered one for everything and the deal was set. She disappeared for a few minutes.
Came back in and started with some more AR and then the flip. Russian and french were spoken and totally enjoyed!
Then CG, RCG, K9, mish, and big finiah with K9.
Important note - The CG and RCG were especially wonderful because it bacame oblvious that she has been exercising those Kegels! If you don't know what Kegels are - look it up elsewhere. With neither of us moving, just those muscles working I felt like I was being milked - DAMN THAT WAS GREAT!
She did the squeeze a few more time during the various other moves too.
I left there feeling at least 20 years younger! I will return!
They also have the VIP card where the 6th visit is free of the house fee. They will keep the card there if you want or you can keep it.
MICKEY is great!!!
...and then I woke up from the dream.
If you need more details, drop me a line.
JJ
Anyway, Mickey is kinda tall, outstand toned body, small boobs and dark complexion. JJ - I read about someone with similar dark features on another post. Is she about 30? And was a glove used during the session?
Long time mongerer (20+ years), but first time poster here. I was in CPHC a few days ago and noticed they had a sign on the wall of the shower asking "golgo" to remove his post from a popular website (this one, no doubt). Management at CPHC fears that they will have to shut down for awhile if we keep posting too many details of our amp fantasies. I think CPHC seems to be more concerned about their image on this board than other amps, and there is a very good reason for their concern. Just my 2 pennies worth. Cheers.
JohnThat is pretty impressive, Golgo. :)
Zhuxi
Smokey2009
08-11-06, 12:57
Last night I decided to venture into DC and enjoy a sensual massage. So I took off into the night towards G-town and came across OK SPA. I figured since I havent heard much from them, I would venture and see if anything was good, but Now I know why not so many people post about this place. When I walked into the place, I was escorted to a room that smelled plain out foul, so from the start it took away from some of the experience. But, I didn't let that get to me yet, it wasnt until the mamasan called one of the ladies over, and she looked like a man! With makeup! Clearly she was a 1! She knew no english, had no body, and was maybe in her mid or late 50s. So I asked to get someone else, by this time I was loosing the urge for a good massage, and when the next lady came in, she was no better than the first. The only difference is the next lady knew english, very little ofcourse, and before even closing the door was asking for money in a rude way, so I left, and got as far away from the place as possible. TRUST ME I will never invest time, effort, and money into this SPA ever again in my life.
ALWAYS use a glove!
She might be 30. Thereabouts anyway.
JJ
JJ - I read about someone with similar dark features on another post. Is she about 30? And was a glove used during the session?
StWalkinCheetah
08-12-06, 02:31
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08-12-06, 10:48
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Member #4338
08-12-06, 11:10
[b] I just don't post much anymore because louts like you have made the board less interesting.
OK. So now just go away again and peace will return to the DC Board.
Lax
StWalkinCheetah
08-12-06, 12:03
OK. So now just go away again and peace will return to the DC Board.
LaxI don't think I want to miss all the wit and wisdom expressed on this board.
IveGotBigBalls
08-12-06, 12:14
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Sometimes you gotta let the house burn down.
Sometimes you gotta let the house burn down.
It is okay for a member with senioritis to light up someone perceived as a newbie but not okay for a perceived newbie to call out a senior member for what he is... especially if that senior is a bonafide jackass. Nice call, admin.
Member #4338
08-12-06, 16:00
Thanks to Jackson or whoever is manning the admin chair for keeping things on track on the DC Board. Now back to the task at hand ;)
I was determined to see Michelle at Royal and called ahead for an appointment. Mamasan told me she would not be available any time close to the window of opportunity I had. :( Bummer. Plan B was to call Happiness to check on the availability of Yoko. Strike two :( Yoko on vacation.
I swung by Sun to cash in my full VIP card. Through a bizarre series of events at Sun I ended up with Mimi :) This Mimi is not the beautiful mature woman that the last Mimi was but she is charming in her own right. Overall I would describe her as a sexy Vixen. 22 YO, 5' 2", 105 lbs, lovely natural black hair, tight body, 34 B's and and a killer face.
LARS Rating
Face 9.3
Body 9.5
Attitude 9.2
Service 9.3
Overall a definite keeper.
Peace and love,
Lax
Fish Head Jones
08-12-06, 17:57
I want to know a few things:
1. What is the top rated AMP in town where you can get full service and no hassles if you are a white guy.
2. How much do I have to pay the house? How much is the tip?
3. Can I make an appointment?
4. Is there a a site where I see the girls before I go to the place?
Thanks.
I've had mimi before there, you are right, her face is exquisite. Body not bad either ;)
I swung by Sun to cash in my full VIP card. Through a bizarre series of events at Sun I ended up with Mimi :) This Mimi is not the beautiful mature woman that the last Mimi was but she is charming in her own right. Overall I would describe her as a sexy Vixen. 22 YO, 5' 2", 105 lbs, lovely natural black hair, tight body, 34 B's and and a killer face.
LARS Rating
Face 9.3
Body 9.5
Attitude 9.2
Service 9.3
Overall a definite keeper.
Peace and love,
Lax
Member #4338
08-12-06, 22:11
Do you guys get a cheap nut whenever someone comes on here and requests info and you tell him to RTFF? I mean come on, you guys do it to very single person; especailly you VD, you have seemed to have taken it upon yourself to do the scolding whenever someone pops up requesting intel. Who nominated you the boards 'daddy', anyway?
What do you expect people to come on here and do? This board is designed for 'information intel'. Maybe it does get annoying that every few days a new poster comes on here and asks "where's this'', and "where's that' but there's no need to reply to every single one of them. Just ignore their post, they'll soon start digging back through the threads on their own. It's natural to ask questions when your new in any enviroment.
Keep the Peace:)
Fish Head:
Good questions. We'll have our answer man do the research. OK G13 you're up! ;)
I want to know a few things:
1. What is the top rated AMP in town where you can get full service and no hassles if you are a white guy.
2. How much do I have to pay the house? How much is the tip?
3. Can I make an appointment?
4. Is there a a site where I see the girls before I go to the place?
Thanks.Not to start a flame war but you can RTFF (go back many pages) and know as much as your need to know.
I had a conversation with an old friend the other day and neither of us could remember the name of an AMP that closed many years ago in College Park MD. I know this is ancient history but it was there in the early 80s for many years. It was behind some warehouses and near a skating rink. It was not an asian AMP, it had mostly fine white chicks with a couple fine blacks. Anybody remember the name of the place?
Fish Head Jones
08-13-06, 04:28
Thanks guys.
Member #4338
08-13-06, 07:28
Not to start a flame war but you can RTFF (go back many pages) and know as much as your need to know.
Junky11:
Come on, man. Don't you know that we are not supposed to respond to noob's questions with RTFF (even though the DC Board is probably the most intel rich board in the USG). In the words of G13, "what do you expect people to come here and do?" Do you expect them to actually invest some time in reading the board for themselves to get the benefit of the intel we've posted? No they ask for, and according to some, are entitled to having us do their research and hand them the intel they seek on a silver platter.
Fish Head:
Hey buddy, don't worry. I'm sure that G13 is just formatting the report and will post the intel you need soon. :rolleyes:
Peace and love,
Lax
I want to know a few things:
1. What is the top rated AMP in town where you can get full service and no hassles if you are a white guy.
2. How much do I have to pay the house? How much is the tip?
3. Can I make an appointment?
4. Is there a a site where I see the girls before I go to the place?
Thanks.
The answers:
(1) Unfortunately, Michelin and Fodors have not (as of yet) completed their ratings of Washington-area AMPs. As for a the "white guy" comment that we all know that Asian Massage Parlors ONLY cater to Asian men. Otherwise they'd be called White Guy Massage Parlors.
(2) Houses in the Washington Metro area start around $500K.
(3) Appointment? Sure. But it still doesn't guarantee anything.
(4) See the girls first? Yep. Ask mamasan if you can sit in the hallway for an hour.
Fish Head Jones
08-13-06, 09:53
The answers:
(1) Unfortunately, Michelin and Fodors have not (as of yet) completed their ratings of Washington-area AMPs. As for a the "white guy" comment that we all know that Asian Massage Parlors ONLY cater to Asian men. Otherwise they'd be called White Guy Massage Parlors.
(2) Houses in the Washington Metro area start around $500K.
(3) Appointment? Sure. But it still doesn't guarantee anything.
(4) See the girls first? Yep. Ask mamasan if you can sit in the hallway for an hour.Ha ha. Did your balls get bigger while you were coming up with these clever remarks?
nut scratcher
08-13-06, 09:58
The answers:
(1) Unfortunately, Michelin and Fodors have not (as of yet) completed their ratings of Washington-area AMPs. As for a the "white guy" comment that we all know that Asian Massage Parlors ONLY cater to Asian men. Otherwise they'd be called White Guy Massage Parlors.
(2) Houses in the Washington Metro area start around $500K.
(3) Appointment? Sure. But it still doesn't guarantee anything.
(4) See the girls first? Yep. Ask mamasan if you can sit in the hallway for an hour.
It looks like the fish was just baiting you. What a load you guys are.
DrunkAsShit
08-13-06, 10:11
The answers:
(1) Unfortunately, Michelin and Fodors have not (as of yet) completed their ratings of Washington-area AMPs. As for a the "white guy" comment that we all know that Asian Massage Parlors ONLY cater to Asian men. Otherwise they'd be called White Guy Massage Parlors.
(2) Houses in the Washington Metro area start around $500K.
(3) Appointment? Sure. But it still doesn't guarantee anything.
(4) See the girls first? Yep. Ask mamasan if you can sit in the hallway for an hour.I think there should be a rule that if you are going to clown someone, be:
a. Funny
b. Clever
c. Witty
Otherwise, leave the cracking to the comedians.
Freshly Snipes
08-13-06, 12:26
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TBWNN got it moniker because of the heat that was raised when detailed reports were read by the owner and possibly LE.
Similar concerns may be at play with a recently popular amp. Gentle mongers, as a member of this fraternity I propose we cutdown on the finer details of the activities and state only that our fantasies and dreams were good or not good or use ratings such as those used by many mongers to grade their dreams. Members could always request detailed info on our dreams via PM.
happy endings
billPossibly LE? LE is on to the board. However, unless they sting the joint with solicitation, the only things they can really get them for are licensing violations, health code violations and possibly immigration issues but that would involve other agencies. Thinking that LE doesn't know what's going on in DC or is ignorant of this board is naive.
Smokey2009
08-14-06, 00:07
Well I don't want to get a RTFF from anyone, but after goin back and readin, where is the best possible place in the whole DC AMP area that i could get the best bargain. I'm talkin about the CHEAPEST one but with some class ofcourse. I'm debatin on tryin out Supra and if I do I will post the experience.
Freshly Snipes
08-14-06, 09:03
Yesterday was my first time at the coverted CHPC spa. This has got to be the spa where all the celebrities go to when they're in town because it looked so upscale (with the leather massage chair in the room and all), and it's just a hop and a skip away from the metro, literally, for those of you that don't have your own transportation.
I went there arond 7:45 last might, rang the bell and mamasan let me in. she was very friendly and seemed a lot younger than the other ones i've seen at places like Supra and DT. It was amusing to see that each room had it's own name on the door. I was escorted into the 'Rose' room. She took the 60 from me then asked who i wanted. I didn't want to tell her it was my first time, so i threw out a name i had seen on here 'Joy'(?). She told me Joy was busy, but that 'Susie' was available. I said o.k and got undressed. In comes 'Susie'. Nice personality. Didn't ask her age but said she had been there a while. Laughed alot. About 5'6" with enhanced breasts and nice thick legs. Light brown highlights in hair. She walked me to the TS area and in we went.
Now the TS was probably the most interesting one i've ever had. I have never been to an AMP where there are 2 tables within the shower area. Half way through this long TS, another girl and her client come in while i'm butt naked on the table! Sure there was a curtain divider, but it was a little unnerving! Then to add insult to injury Susie my provider peaked over, because she apparently recognized the mongers voice ,and started up a full conversation with this other guy while she was showering me! The guy wouldn't shut up and kept 'trying' to talk korean (that Susie had apparently been teaching him before). He just didn't realise how ridiculous he sounded saying things like " I miss you too honey, long time no see" doing his best korean inpersonation (let me find out the idiot behind the curtain was VD or Moonview :D). Anyway the TS lasted for about 15 minutes. Beside the interruption my only other complaint was that she spent like 10 minutes fingering my ass, which i hate. She stopped when she noticed me constantly tensing up.
Back at the room she gave a nice, hard massage. The beds over here were alot harder than the ones at Supra and DT-i didn't like that either. After the massage she undresses, and i get some good thorough AR (which is probaby why she was soaping my ass so thoroughly), then a CBJ from the 69 position. She has an incredible body but DATY is not my thing, so i just kissed her legs and butt. She jumped into RCG, then switched to doggy then to mish. For some reason i couldn't cum, so she walked me over to the leather chair, bent over and let me hit it there but still no victory. So she gets another condomn, got on her knees and gave me another CBJ with alot of BLS. Still i couldn't cum, so she got some baby oil, rubbed it over her tits and let me titty fuck her for about 5 minutes, and i finally finished. She took me back to the shower area and we showered together nude. This was the first time i had been given 2 showers. I paid her, got dressed and left. She was really patient and determined to get me off, even after me repeatedly telling her "It's ok, it's not you, i'm just tired". She definately is an A plus worker. I looked at my watch and it was 9:10, so i definaitely got an hour plus.
Susie- definate repeat.
Phew, ok i tried to cram the entire report right here, as i seemed to be on everyones PM shit list :).
Happy and safe hunting all.
Face-8/10
Attitude-9
Body-8.5
Determination to please -100!
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Hi guys,
A couple of forum members have contacted me to express their concerns that this report contains too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Don't be so nieve as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's server are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
Thanks,
JacksonThanks Jackson!
Well I don't want to get a RTFF from anyone, but after goin back and readin, where is the best possible place in the whole DC AMP area that i could get the best bargain. I'm talkin about the CHEAPEST one but with some class ofcourse. I'm debatin on tryin out Supra and if I do I will post the experience.
Ok, I'm back and I well rested... So, I will give a respit on the RTFF post.
But, are they not all about the same price?
VD
Member #4338
08-14-06, 12:13
Ok, I'm back and I well rested... So, I will give a respit on the RTFF post.
But, are they not all about the same price?
VD
Van:
In my experience they are. Only possible exception is if you have a full VIP card or there used to be coupons in the WP Sports section.
G13:
OK, you don't want us to tell noobs to RTFF and you don't want to be the answer man. What is it that you would have us do?
Lax
Van:
In my experience they are. Only possible exception is if you have a full VIP card or there used to be coupons in the WP Sports section.
Lax
Lax:
I actually was speaking tongue-in-cheek. I was being a nice guy since I had a restful vacation and so I restrained from using the RTFF quote.
Anybody who is anybody (or anybody who has RTFF) would know the rates. I thought that he should RTFF and would get that idea from my post.
Van
I decided to visit Sun today (behind MCI Center). I was there back in April, and now that I know which door it is, approaching the building and hitting the buzzer was much less daunting, even with the MCI Center security dudes standing vigil across the street (as if they care anyway).
Mamasan met me at the door and gave me straight to Mimi, who was just coming out of a room. Room 1 is clean and nicer than the room I had previously seen upstairs, with air conditioning already on, a couch, a bed, and a tanning bed (wink, wink).
Mimi is a petit girl -- the smallest I've ever been with. She has long hair, tight natural breasts which are large for her frame, a nice contour to her ass (not flat), a pretty face, and seemed to be in her early 20's. Her English is weak, but she has a positive attitude and is eager to please. I think she is new, as Mamasan asked me about her on my way out.
TS was brief but satisfying. Back in the room, she played a teasing game with me, skipped the "massage," and went right in for my "baby," as she called the little guy. After some teabagging and partial bbbj, she said "you want?" and then proceeded to ask for 7 Jacksons. Thanks to advice on this board, I played cool and calm, and asked why 5 were not enough. Or prehaps I was missing a discreet offer of a premium service?
She teased a bit more so I stretched out on the bed. Then she said "Bye Bye, I go, new girl come." After less than a minute she came back in and said "New girl," and asked my name. Then she acted as if nothing had happened, quickly revealed the rest of her flesh, and dove right in -- a bit of AR with concentration on the perineum (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perineum -- new for me and good) , more bbbj, some oil?, then she moved into a position that drove me crazy.
My performance wasn't the best or maybe she was surprisingly skilled ;-) -- either way, after a few minutes of bliss on my part, the rest of the session was hugs and cuddling and then some muscle training. Definantly a GFE if you are into that. She actually wanted to give it another try, but I was already perfectly content.
The only negative was her garish eye makeup and very slight cigarette taste. Also, I rather prefer to stick with the usual script of TS, rubdown, AR, BJ, etc., as I just want to sit back, not think about anything, and be pampered. Although this was my fault, as I need to learn to clearly state my preferences.
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 9
Overall: 7
I had a conversation with an old friend the other day and neither of us could remember the name of an AMP that closed many years ago in College Park MD. I know this is ancient history but it was there in the early 80s for many years. It was behind some warehouses and near a skating rink. It was not an asian AMP, it had mostly fine white chicks with a couple fine blacks. Anybody remember the name of the place?The Tender Touch Health club. Anyone rememeber that?
Crazy Dick
08-14-06, 22:34
Guy's,
We seem to be getting off the subject !!! While I'm on travel and havn't had a chance to sample a DC AMP in the last 3 weeks, I do miss my $160 an hour adventure.
I have been almost exclusively with Korean women for the last 20+ years. On the 8th day God created Korean women, and on the 9th day he created the AMP !!!
The following link has some really knock out ladies from Korea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yM2InvdjWE
LAX - from a recent post you mentioned Linda @ Royal. Is she back in town. About a month ago the Royal Mamasn said that Linda was going on a long vaction.
Regards,
Crazy Dick
Any body seen Gina -- once at Happiness? I know she was there some months ago. I'd luv to know if she ever came back.
Member #4338
08-15-06, 07:00
After some teabagging and partial bbbj, she said "you want?" and then proceeded to ask for 7 Jacksons. Thanks to advice on this board, I played cool and calm, and asked why 5 were not enough. Or prehaps I was missing a discreet offer of a premium service?
In my book Mimi at Sun gets downgraded by 2 full points on the LARS™ for trying to upsell. Coney did a good job of not giving in in hopes of getting "extra". If it were me, I would've demanded to see the Mamasan immediaitely to obtain a refund. I don't care how hot she is! We have to hold the line against this type of attempted price gouging.
Crazy D:
Good to have you back in circulation. Last time I was at Royal (say 10 days ago) the one and only Linda was indeed there. The only reason I didn't see her is that my sights were set on Michelle.
SWWSLT
Lax
During a recent trip I heard the owner talking to another owner telling her she may be interested in selling and retiring. The stress of the place had taken it's toll and she wanted to just relax and enjoy her life. If what I heard (I speak and understand hangul enough) is true things may get better at DT. I do not know who she was talking to as they were in the kitchen as I was smoking in the back. I wonder if any one else has heard this bit of news? It would be nice if the old owner or one of the old working girls, Maya, Coco, Michelle or one as mice took it over. Just something that may come about.
Jibba Jabba
08-15-06, 11:47
Sorry all! I read the forum - looks like my post was exactly the example of dumb newbie post. Well, got addresses, I am generally up on the info of whats good and what to expect.
One thing I found mentioned is that to go in you must answer some questions, mention names? Sounds pretty exciting in a spy-kind-of-way, but what's a guy like me to do? Didn't find an answer to that here.
With some help, hopefully I'll get you a report sometime soon.
Sorry all! I read the forum - looks like my post was exactly the example of dumb newbie post. Well, got addresses, I am generally up on the info of whats good and what to expect.
One thing I found mentioned is that to go in you must answer some questions, mention names? Sounds pretty exciting in a spy-kind-of-way, but what's a guy like me to do? Didn't find an answer to that here.
With some help, hopefully I'll get you a report sometime soon.
Jibba Jabba:
I must say that this post is most puzzling... You say that you have RTFF but have overlooked the names of the providers listed?
I hope that you experienced an igna-second when you clicked the submit report button.
An example of an igna-second is the final second as you slam your car door shut that you realize the keys are inside the car and the doors are locked.
So, I can only assume that you did not mean to post this report...
Van
PS - If you need a hint on a name... Scroll up to the post above!
Had some time on my hands this afternoon around lunch-time and decided that I needed some relaxation after my long weekend.
So, I went to Sun with the discount and card in hand and took my luck on the provider selected since no line-up was available and I really did not see any good intel since before I left for vacation (how's that for a run-on sentence?)...
Anyway, Honey was selected for me... She is about 5'1'' tall with natural large B's (too bad, you boys know how I likee the natural big-uns) and a small but round rear-end.
TS was very nice and extended. She really made sure that everything was cleaned well.
Back to the room, she took her gift first... And, I hate that. Anyway, the massage was short and sweet and she really got me going. She dove right in for AR and light BBBJ... But, used a cover for the real BJ.
Skills were not up to those of Lucy or Yoko, but were fine. She was as tight as they get... And, without much lube, was difficult at first until she naturally lubricated.
Unfortunately, I did not last long enough... But, it was satisfying.
I don't think I will repeat because I ran into another provider named Mimi who had the large lobes I crave... So, I'll try her next.
Definately not the next Mrs. Van...But, nice.
LARS Rating
Face 7.00
Body 7.00
Attitude 9.0
Service 9.0
Van
If any trusted members need additional intel, please feel free to PM. Or, more especially, if you have intel for me on a large naturally breasted provider... Do PM!!!
Jibba Jabba
08-15-06, 15:40
JJ:
I must say that this post is most puzzling... You say that you have RTFF but have overlooked the names of the providers listed?
I hope that you experienced an igna-second when you clicked the submit report button.
An example of an igna-second is the final second as you slam your car door shut that you realize the keys are inside the car and the doors are locked.
So, I can only assume that you did not mean to post this report...
VanIs provider names what they want to hear? I really wasn't sure about the "name" part, which people seem to need to reference. Besides, as much as possible I'd like to refrain from telling stories, so if I have no experience with providers before I'd rather not invent it. Can I get in without that?
Here is my first nonexperience - called the number of a certain place that also tends to advertise on a certain classified listings system. 3 calls - all to the machine. Walked by, seen a guy coming out of there looking like he just tucked his shirt in. The entrance is sided by whole lot of people though, that seem to linger there for a while for no reason. Without phone confirmation I didn't go in - chalk it off to newbie wussiness.
Recommendations welcome.
Pardner,
I sign my posts with my name - JJ so if you are going to respond to Jibber Jabber please use his full name here so I don't get confused.
Confusing me is probably the easiest thing anyone can do!
JJ
JJ:
I must say that this post is most puzzling... You say that you have RTFF but have overlooked the names of the providers listed?
I hope that you experienced an igna-second when you clicked the submit report button.
An example of an igna-second is the final second as you slam your car door shut that you realize the keys are inside the car and the doors are locked.
So, I can only assume that you did not mean to post this report...
Van
PS - If you need a hint on a name... Scroll up to the post above!
Pardner,
I sign my posts with my name - JJ so if you are going to respond to Jibber Jabber please use his full name here so I don't get confused.
Confusing me is probably the easiest thing anyone can do!
JJ
Duley noted and changed.
Sorry for that...
Van
Sarang Haeyo
08-15-06, 18:00
Had some time on my hands this afternoon around lunch-time and decided that I needed some relaxation after my long weekend.
So, I went to Sun with the discount and card in hand and took my luck on the provider selected since no line-up was available and I really did not see any good intel since before I left for vacation (how's that for a run-on sentence?)...
Anyway, Honey was selected for me... She is about 5'1'' tall with natural large B's (too bad, you boys know how I likee the natural big-uns) and a small but round rear-end.
TS was very nice and extended. She really made sure that everything was cleaned well.
Back to the room, she took her gift first... And, I hate that. Anyway, the massage was short and sweet and she really got me going. She dove right in for AR and light BBBJ... But, used a cover for the real BJ.
Skills were not up to those of Lucy or Yoko, but were fine. She was as tight as they get... And, without much lube, was difficult at first until she naturally lubricated.
Unfortunately, I did not last long enough... But, it was satisfying.
I don't think I will repeat because I ran into another provider named Mimi who had the large lobes I crave... So, I'll try her next.
Definately not the next Mrs. Van...But, nice.
LARS Rating
Face 7.00
Body 7.00
Attitude 9.0
Service 9.0
Van
If any trusted members need additional intel, please feel free to PM. Or, more especially, if you have intel for me on a large naturally breasted provider... Do PM!!!Time to chime in.
This type of post reminds me of how it use to be before I hooked up with my AMP girl (see previous posts).
Before my girlfriend tied me down, and well before I knew this site existed, there was nothing more exciting than hitting a new place and trying a new girl.
With no information like the new guys get; I'd go in, take what I was given or pick from a line up and make the best of it. Had I known about this site and posted my experiences I'd be the hero of TOFTT.
Advice to the "newbies": if you fear getting flamed (and enough new guys have been) go to an AMP, pay attention to the girls name, and report what you want to. The seniors will warm up to you and you won't have to deal with the grief.
I wish I had known about this forum. I've got some great stories about what goes on inside these places. I've done everything from hanging mirrors in the rooms to repairing water heaters to wiring sound systems for these places. I spent one Sunday in an AMP alone with two girls. ALL DAY! Doing work, eating Korean food and getting laid (with only one of the girls). No customers: it was a playoff Sunday in the NFL and I listened to the games on the radio while I did my thing.
I'm happy to say trading goods for services was ALWAYS available and ALWAYS welcomed. Those were the days.
Unfortunately, my AMP girl has a good hold on me. I miss the adventure and the variety of a new girl. I'd go and report back but my heart isn't in it any more. Besides, if she found out I was giving $$ to anyone else I'd be forced to eat kimchi until it was coming out of my ears.
Good luck.
The Tender Touch Health club. Anyone rememeber that?
Yeah. I remember Tender Touch, it was near where the Metro station is now. I probably have a book of thier matches somewhere. Anybody remember one on Holton Lane (near New Hampshire)? The Post office and car wash are still on the same block.
Grapevine has it that three stores were raided today (UCLE), Sun near Verizon Center was one of them. Hope none of you were caught up in that. Glad I've been keeping myself on the bench (mostly). I'll pass along more info as(if) it comes available. Take care out there.
Jibba Jabba
08-15-06, 20:56
So where is the entrance to Sun? I might be dumb, but for the life of me I could not figure it out, which is too bad - it seemed like a better location than others. Less people hanging around the building, all the crowds busy with MCI center game.
Well it seems that DC is going to be the next Waterbury CT. LE and immigration when into many places today.
DT, Royal, Happiness are a few. I know for sure DT and Royal or Happiness for sure
this morning when I went from my visit Federal LE everywhere I drove by when I got to downtown they were putting people in a van :(
AJ
Jibba Jabba
08-15-06, 23:07
Well it seems that DC is going to be the next Waterbury CT. LE and immigration when into many places today.
DT, Royal, Happiness are a few. I know for sure DT and Royal or Happiness for sure
this morning when I went from my visit Federal LE everywhere I drove by when I got to downtown they were putting people in a van :(
AJNo wonder there were those people lingering about the entrance at all those places today. I thought that looked suspicious.
I've also done my share of work for these places DT, royal, happiness, Sun to name a few I'm not saying what you stated is untrue I get regular calls from a lot of these places the only thing I get is as many free House takes as I request Momma told me she cannot give me free girl. After today's action may be we'll be competing for work lol anyway without incriminating myself anymore that's my take
AJ
PS: If you're trading work what are you doing giving $$ anyway?
Time to chime in.
This type of post reminds me of how it use to be before I hooked up with my AMP girl (see previous posts).
Before my girlfriend tied me down, and well before I knew this site existed, there was nothing more exciting than hitting a new place and trying a new girl.
With no information like the new guys get; I'd go in, take what I was given or pick from a line up and make the best of it. Had I known about this site and posted my experiences I'd be the hero of TOFTT.
Advice to the "newbies": if you fear getting flamed (and enough new guys have been) go to an AMP, pay attention to the girls name, and report what you want to. The seniors will warm up to you and you won't have to deal with the grief.
I wish I had known about this forum. I've got some great stories about what goes on inside these places. I've done everything from hanging mirrors in the rooms to repairing water heaters to wiring sound systems for these places. I spent one Sunday in an AMP alone with two girls. ALL DAY! Doing work, eating Korean food and getting laid (with only one of the girls). No customers: it was a playoff Sunday in the NFL and I listened to the games on the radio while I did my thing.
I'm happy to say trading goods for services was ALWAYS available and ALWAYS welcomed. Those were the days.
Unfortunately, my AMP girl has a good hold on me. I miss the adventure and the variety of a new girl. I'd go and report back but my heart isn't in it any more. Besides, if she found out I was giving $$ to anyone else I'd be forced to eat kimchi until it was coming out of my ears.
Good luck.
Well it seems that DC is going to be the next Waterbury CT. LE and immigration when into many places today.
DT, Royal, Happiness are a few. I know for sure DT and Royal or Happiness for sure
this morning when I went from my visit Federal LE everywhere I drove by when I got to downtown they were putting people in a van :(
AJHopefully this phase will pass just like the others. It's always a bummer when you don't have the DC option. VA is such a hit or miss sometimes.
BigTig
Time to chime in.
This type of post reminds me of how it use to be before I hooked up with my AMP girl (see previous posts).
Before my girlfriend tied me down, and well before I knew this site existed, there was nothing more exciting than hitting a new place and trying a new girl.
With no information like the new guys get; I'd go in, take what I was given or pick from a line up and make the best of it. Had I known about this site and posted my experiences I'd be the hero of TOFTT.
Advice to the "newbies": if you fear getting flamed (and enough new guys have been) go to an AMP, pay attention to the girls name, and report what you want to. The seniors will warm up to you and you won't have to deal with the grief.
I wish I had known about this forum. I've got some great stories about what goes on inside these places. I've done everything from hanging mirrors in the rooms to repairing water heaters to wiring sound systems for these places. I spent one Sunday in an AMP alone with two girls. ALL DAY! Doing work, eating Korean food and getting laid (with only one of the girls). No customers: it was a playoff Sunday in the NFL and I listened to the games on the radio while I did my thing.
I'm happy to say trading goods for services was ALWAYS available and ALWAYS welcomed. Those were the days.
Unfortunately, my AMP girl has a good hold on me. I miss the adventure and the variety of a new girl. I'd go and report back but my heart isn't in it any more. Besides, if she found out I was giving $$ to anyone else I'd be forced to eat kimchi until it was coming out of my ears.
Good luck.
Sarang:
Well, to my defense, I just got back from vacation and could not find much intel on new providers since the former Mrs. Van, Yoko, left my fav. spa.
So, I decided to see what I could get. Normally, at the time I arrived, the spas are not busy at all...I figured that I would have the complete lineup. No sweat, though... I was overall please with the result.
At first I was taken back at a reference to a newbie...but, I think I get your point as I am one of the seniors to whom you refer.
Van
Grapevine has it that three stores were raided today (UCLE), Sun near Verizon Center was one of them. Hope none of you were caught up in that. Glad I've been keeping myself on the bench (mostly). I'll pass along more info as(if) it comes available. Take care out there.
Well, according to Kluvr and A John, I am one lucky son of a *****!
I decided at the last minute to visit Sun rather than Happiness today around 12:30pm (don't know what time the raid at Happiness took place).
Luckily I was not one of the souls in any of the spas when they were hit today...thank God!
***** What time did the raids go down?
***** Also, what are you supposed to do if you are there when it is raided?
***** Are you hauled off to jail to call your SO to be picked up?
Interestingly enough, I was in an amp one day about 1 1/2 years ago when the Health Inspector arrived. He knocked on my door and my provider flipped out when Mamasan said something in Korean. I grabbed my boxers and laid back down as if I were receiving a real massage! Luckily, he knocked when we just returned from the TS.
He asked me my name, I think I told him Ward Cleaver, and then asked for my ID... Didn't have one...Sorry.
Then, about 45-50 minutes later as I was leaving, he emerged from the "office" area... I guess he was taken care of also...just a guess.
Van
All amps in DC are closed, I talked to the bums outside of Happiness and they said that Royal was hit not Happiness but she closed anyway. So I called all the amps in DC, all, and I mean all of them are closed. This really sucks.
Grapevine has it that three stores were raided today (UCLE), Sun near Verizon Center was one of them. Hope none of you were caught up in that. Glad I've been keeping myself on the bench (mostly). I'll pass along more info as(if) it comes available. Take care out there.What does UCLE mean?
I am lucky too as much as I like happiness.
What does UCLE mean?
I am lucky too as much as I like happiness.
UCLE - Under Cover Law Enforcement.
Freshly Snipes
08-16-06, 13:20
All amps in DC are closed, I talked to the bums outside of Happiness and they said that Royal was hit not Happiness but she closed anyway. So I called all the amps in DC, all, and I mean all of them are closed. This really sucks.Then this mean that they pretty much network info between each other. I was planning on going to Supra tomorrow. I think now i'll take a rain check until the heat dies down.
What does UCLE mean?
I am lucky too as much as I like happiness.
UCLE = The A-holes who ruin our fun.
Van
Member #4338
08-16-06, 13:39
All amps in DC are closed, I talked to the bums outside of Happiness and they said that Royal was hit not Happiness but she closed anyway. So I called all the amps in DC, all, and I mean all of them are closed. This really sucks.
The dark days return to DC. I fear that this time there may not be a new day dawning.
Sadly,
Lax
Hi,
Just out:
today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-08-16T172455Z_01_N16185611_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-SEX.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C3-domesticNews-2
First of many I am sure.
AM
Sarang Haeyo
08-16-06, 15:58
I've also done my share of work for these places DT, royal, happiness, Sun to name a few I'm not saying what you stated is untrue I get regular calls from a lot of these places the only thing I get is as many free House takes as I request Momma told me she cannot give me free girl. After today's action may be we'll be competing for work lol anyway without incriminating myself anymore that's my take.
AJ
PS: If you're trading work what are you doing giving $$ anyway?I should have mentioned that the owner of one particular place was also a working girl. That's why I got freebies there. The other places; what can I say, they liked me.
I haven't gone to an AMP in a long time, since I hooked up with my girl. The trading was quite some time ago.
Van: You misunderstood me. I'm not calling you a newb by any stretch of the imagination. Your post just reminded me of the good old days and it is a post that the new guys should use as a model.
Now; on to the raids. This is what I know based on what my AMP girl told me last night. I hope I won't take too many hits because I'm spilling this info but here goes:
One of the taxi drivers (those in the know understand what I'm talking about) is in bed with LE. He has provided LE with names and addresses of some of the girls and also some of the owners.
My girl bugged out of her AMP last night (not in DC) and came home. I met with her last night and she gave me the whole story. She was nervous LE was going to show up at her place. As a side note, I got there before she did and she had me put two bags with her working wear in my truck just in case.
That's about all I know. But I'm damn glad I'm out of this game. First Waterbury, now this, unreal. Now if I could only get her to quit.
Good luck you guys, be careful.
Well, according to Kluvr and A John, I am one lucky son of a *****!
I decided at the last minute to visit Sun ... I guess he was taken care of also...just a guess.
VanHealth Inspector my ass.
Despite the heat, I attempted to visit CPHC today for my 1st ever visit there. Of course, no answer. Disappointing.
Yeah. I remember Tender Touch, it was near where the Metro station is now. I probably have a book of thier matches somewhere. Anybody remember one on Holton Lane (near New Hampshire)? The Post office and car wash are still on the same block.
Maybe we will be having this same conversation about Happiness some day!
From what I am told once the 3 places had been hit the others closed. It was INS, Immigration that hit all the places. They took everyone in, even if they had a valid ID. This was a no holds total lock down. It is from what happened not too long ago in LA, SF and other places out west. Remember the girls travel in a circuit. So it was a matter of time before they came here to follow up on the leads from out west. What is more interesting is that some of these girls have already stated they were forced into the business and are willing to testify against the owners. I would not be calling any of the girls or owner for a while. The INS can listen in on your conversation and most likely have.Just be carefull with whar you do for a while. Just the info given to me today,
From what I am told once the 3 places had been hit the others closed. It was INS, Immigration that hit all the places. They took everyone in, even if they had a valid ID. This was a no holds total lock down. It is from what happened not too long ago in LA, SF and other places out west. Remember the girls travel in a circuit. So it was a matter of time before they came here to follow up on the leads from out west. What is more interesting is that some of these girls have already stated they were forced into the business and are willing to testify against the owners. I would not be calling any of the girls or owner for a while. The INS can listen in on your conversation and most likely have.Just be carefull with whar you do for a while. Just the info given to me today,
Kimchi -
Good helpful info. Any possibility this action will have ripple effects(e.g., reaching into N. VA or Balt.) before all is said and done?
MnV
Kimchi -
Good helpful info. Any possibility this action will have ripple effects(e.g., reaching into N. VA or Balt.) before all is said and done?
MnV
There's a nasty rumor floating on the BaCo. board that Moonlight was closed. This must be a region wide thing, but what do I know. Only speculation.
fvr
Wasn't just local Raids. The Feds are hitting all up and down the east coast. Apparently, a Mamasan tried to bribe a Federal Agent and insulted him by not paying enough. Then, she started to sing when they put the cuffs on her. I imagine some very large men from Italy and/or Korea will be desiring a chat with her sometime soon.
From the B-more news:
http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9689509/detail.html
http://www.nbc4.com/news/9690144/detail.html
Federal agents said they've busted a ring involved with human trafficking.
Authorities have 31 people in custody and more than 70 suspected Korean sex slaves were freed. Investigators said the suspects smuggled Korean women through Canada and Mexico. To help pay off their smuggling fee, the women were forced to work in brothels in seven states -- including Maryland -- and the District.
Moonview only if the girls worked in that area and came from LA, SF. I hear that that the next place is going to be NY. In essence they are following the circuit. That means that all areas that is in the network is going to get hit. When is the question. They waited about 1 year to hit here. If I still dated a working girl she would be on vacation for a while. It is not so much the INS but the money and how it is distruted. We are fighting a war on terror and guess who is being added, the guys who send the money back to Korea for the girls. From what I am hearing that is what the guys in the building across the street and down the block from Happiness/Royal are looking into. It looks like a few of them may need to find a different hobby also, or at least some guys who hang out at the Hung Jury. This is all the info I can give out for now. Will let you know more as it comes in.
http://newyork.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/koreantraffickingarrest081606.htm
See any familiar names?
Smokey2009
08-16-06, 19:23
I know this is irrelevant to the massage parlor forum but i recently noticed that Oriental S. is gone in MD, site and phone #. Im guessin either they are restructurin or they have gone done.
If they have gone down.
My hat goes to my chest, and i ask for a moment of silence.
Sarang Haeyo
08-16-06, 19:30
From what I am told once the 3 places had been hit the others closed. It was INS, Immigration that hit all the places. They took everyone in, even if they had a valid ID. This was a no holds total lock down. It is from what happened not too long ago in LA, SF and other places out west. Remember the girls travel in a circuit. So it was a matter of time before they came here to follow up on the leads from out west. What is more interesting is that some of these girls have already stated they were forced into the business and are willing to testify against the owners. I would not be calling any of the girls or owner for a while. The INS can listen in on your conversation and most likely have.Just be carefull with whar you do for a while. Just the info given to me today,I forgot to mention that this taxi driver I mentioned gave LE the cell numbers of many of the girls. So like Kimchi says: be careful what you talk about on the phone. I don't know what they have on this guy but it must be pretty good.
I've told my girl that if LE shows up at her place to just pull the "no speak/understand English" line (we've all heard that one) don't answer any questions and get an interpreter. Thank God her paperwork is in order.
The prostitution charge is not what sticks the girls in prison. It's the immigration violations.
It also cracks me up that some of the girls have said they were forced into this. We know better.
Be careful.
http://newyork.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/koreantraffickingarrest081606.htm
See any familiar names?
Well, that's just a damn shame! What the hell are we going to do now?
Van
http://www.nbc4.com/news/9690144/detail.html
Federal agents said they've busted a ring involved with human trafficking.
Authorities have 31 people in custody and more than 70 suspected Korean sex slaves were freed. Investigators said the suspects smuggled Korean women through Canada and Mexico. To help pay off their smuggling fee, the women were forced to work in brothels in seven states -- including Maryland -- and the District.I watched the video and they said that part II would include releasing the names of the hobbyists involved. That is so wrong!
BigTig
Fuck...
I leave the scene for a month and I note G13 and a few others getting groomed by the vets for board leadership someday, and a lot of good posts; which was heartening. I was crushed that my mistress (Ms Driver), went on permanent vacation, but yet another hot Mimi had appeared on the scene. I almost came north...
Then the AsshoLEOS piss in our pool! Shit.
What the hell are we going to do now?
Van
VD,
The way I see it, we have two options:
1. Find out where they are holding the girls and get them all relocated to DC/Nova. Given their freedom and their expertise, I would bet a LARGE percentage of them would open little apartments or businesss enterprises of their own to continue to do what they are trained to do, prefer to do, and love the income from... We can take a hint from Sarang -- these girls really don't want to quit the biz. I stand by what I believe, but getting them relocated en masse could be tricky. Hopefully this group of detainees will eventually rise to become the next generation of mamasans.
and/or
2. See my latest post on General ;)
It is the oldest profession for a reason and will remain so as long as men come equiped with dicks. The Fucked-up Bureau of Instigation, Homeland Insecurity, and Imunization from Naturalization can beat their chests, lie about the facts, and tell us they have improved the lives of these now homeless and impoverished young ladies all they want, but that will not change the reality of the situation or end prostitution in our lifetimes... Idiots.
What they have done is make us work harder to get a nut. This too shall pass, but I have to admit it may take longer to recover than the last round of closings. We have to stay in the game and continue to support our AMPs. We must expect the same services of any AMPs that re-open, contunue to pay the going rate for the same services and NOT allow jerk joints to become viable business option as has happened in NoVa. HJs and BJs should bring only .25 to .40 tip and continue to get your hour for the house fee, IMHO.
LL
What an easy way to beat the rap: "Yes, I was forced to be a prostitute. Can I go now?"
Baltimonger
08-16-06, 22:16
Black Wednesday
A shame this is for sure. LLOS has the best suggestion(s) here. After reading about this today, I figured NoVA would def. get the ripple effect. HWC and Sakura were closed today. NoVA feels tha pain as well.
Stay safe.
Zhuxi
I just noticed I have a full card with "free" staring right at me, I can't believe it. :(
What a bunch of shit this has turned out to be...I hope "the boys downtown" are happy...FK'ers!
A sad day indeed.
MnV
What these press releases, er, advertisements, er, propaganda pieces leave out are the many vacations back to Korean these women take. I suppose they can rationalize that somehow. And, if these women are hand picked, why are there so many newly single and locally based 40-50 year old women working in AMPs? Maybe because it's a good job? They also fail to explain the parttimers that work peak periods to help pay for their family's expenses.
Two characters from classical mythology come to mind: Hydra and Phoenix.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_%28mythology%29
Grapevine has it that three stores were raided today (UCLE), Sun near Verizon Center was one of them. Hope none of you were caught up in that. Glad I've been keeping myself on the bench (mostly). I'll pass along more info as(if) it comes available. Take care out there.I stand corrected, Sun was not one of the three raided. They heard of the rukus and closed shop. Saw the supposedly related item in the news regarding the east coast, which was spun up by someone attempting to bribe a detective. Unbelievable.
Doctor Pussy
08-17-06, 00:25
I went there today hoping to monger but no one answered the door, called back a few times throughout the day and got the recycled "your party is not available" greeting, anyone know what’s up with that?
Previously I’d seen this ***** named mimi, young & slim, face was average at best, attitude could have been much better, and top was fake. But she had a nice thick dark soft pair of pussy lips sticking out, real nice
Anyone up for mongering sometime? Sometimes it’s nice to get the review minutes before your turn, sometimes it’s nice to have another couple in the same room, you get the idea. My preference is to have a few drinks and a smoke before going in, PM me if interested
Thoughts?
The Dr. Of Love
You know, as much as I want to believe it's all propaganda, I sort of believe there is more truth to the forced labor theory. I do believe these girls go into the situation voluntarily and know they're going to the US to work in "muscle training", but I also believe in the "owing the broker" theory. Do they really take trips back to Korea? Or do they just tell us that, and are really heading to NY or CT? The press release/article makes it seem like they are hoodwinked into prostitution when they thought they were just getting passage into the USA, which I think is false. But I see truth in them being in debt to the brokers when they arrive and having their papers taken from them and threatened to perform. I dont know, call me naive but I see logic in it.
edit: it's scary to me that i have as many posts as i do. when i found this site Robux had like 300 posts. Motorback had like 250. Now I've surpassed MB and to Robux I'm coming on strong. I need a new hobby...
I don't want to discount the trafficing theory entirely, because it is a terrible story if it's true. It's just seems too pat of a story, one seemingly written to fulfill a political need. This is the type of bust that careers are made of.
1. The principal informants seem to have sold out everyone else to save their own asses.
2. There's the anti-corruption angle which includes the two NYPD that were taking bribes.
3. The sex workers' easiest way out is to play along.
4. Why haven't any of those AMP sex workers escaped and sought out LE heretofore? We've been to these AMPs and they are not remotely prisons, let alone secure facilties. */And how many mall sightings of AMP ladies have been reported here?/*
5. There's lots of cash money laying around that gets confiscated and never returned to the AMP owners.
6. These agencies have been looking for a win since having their reputations soiled post 9-11. They need a big, wholesome, family-values win with lots of photo ops and one that's bound to get lots of press. AMPS and sex worker trafficing have pretty good girls made to behave as harlots photo-ops galore and plenty culturally allowable purient interest from folks that wouldn't normally say the word "wh0re" outside of church.
7. These agencies have lots of money to spend post 9-11 and have hired lots of extra staff tasked to pursue crimes that they will make up if they can't actually find them.
8. Hunting Koreans is a hell of a lot safer and easier than hunting terrorists.
9. I've gotten plenty of trinket gifts from favorite AMP ladies returning from Korea, and enjoyed seeing them rested and refreshed as only a long vacation can make one feel.
10. Aw, that's enough to make my point.
Could the government's stories be true? Sure. Should we believe them at face value as presented by the government we all know, love and trust? No fucking way.
Robux
Benchseats Rock
08-17-06, 01:53
edit: it's scary to me that i have as many posts as i do. when i found this site Robux had like 300 posts. Motorback had like 250. Now I've surpassed MB and to Robux I'm coming on strong. I need a new hobby...
When you find that hobby let me know, by your accounting I think I might be in the slightest bit of trouble ;)
Dear god gents, this situation is fubar'd beyond fubar.
Between this and the street enforcement getting more intense by the week, I think that this is more and more of a Rovian plot to paper bomb the family values core of the voting bloc more than anything else. Today of all days I am thankful for my EU citizenship: at least the rest of the world has a more normalized attitude towards the hobby. After a couple of parties I think it may be time for a trip across the pond to reaquaint myself with my roots. Anyone want to join me?
Benchseats Rock
Sarang Haeyo
08-17-06, 05:26
Just in case any of you guys are feeling bad about the "human trafficking" and "sex slave" aspect of these reports in the news I want you to know this:
These girls (and what great girls they are) do this voluntarily. Yes, there are sex slave operations but the AMPs that we're familiar with have nothing to do with that.
The girls know that this is the land of opportunity and their work nets them (by most standards of living) a small fortune. It is not unheard of for a provider to net 20K or more for three weeks work. Those still in the prime of their life take a "vacation" once a month. Some continue to work during this time of the month. Vacations are spent catching up on rest, travelling, shopping and that all-time favorite: going to the CASINO. These girls do feed the economy.
Vacations are taken at home. Most of the girls live in a borough of NYC. LE and INS know this.
Those who enter the country legally (I must admit, some do not) return to Korea when their visa stamp expires only to return when they can renew the stamp.
The network that runs this operation is vast. The amount of cash that flows freely is enormous. If you look at the FBI report it speaks of middle men and transporters. These guys (the girls call them taxi drivers) get the girls the job and drive them to the AMPs. For this they are paid a fee based on distance from the girls home. Home is a REALLY nice apartment.
Once there the girls pay room and board to the AMP. They are free to go outside if they want. My girl use to walk up the street to use a tanning shop because her AMP at that time had no tanning bed.
My point is; I don't want ANY of you guys (especially soft-hearted newbies) to think that these girls don't know what they're getting in to. I also don't want anyone to think that they can't quit any time they want. They CAN quit. But like the rest of us, AND the rest of the world, if they quit their job, they'll go further into debt, won't be able to support their families and their quality of life will diminish greatly.
I'm not from DC. In fact I live nowhere near DC. My AMP girl works the DC area occasionally. That's why I post here and read your forum (I keep tabs on her this way and she knows it).
You guys are the most intelligent MP posters on this site and I want you to rest assured that there is NO slavery or trafficking in this case.
Good luck finding other places. I can only hope these raids and closings prompt MY girl to get out. I cannot feature myself across the table from her in some corrections facility. Although with her $$ bail would not be a problem.
This is definitely a bad situation. There's always a lesson to be learned. In the Waterbury CT raid the Fed`s stated along with other information forms like this one were an open source of information. Now I'm not pointing the finger at anyone in particular we all know who we are including myself. When we share information on the open form here like we do BBBJ, RCG, K9, AR etc. it's like saying here's what she does Face 7.00 Body 7.00 Attitude 9.0 Service 9.0 in this establishment for $.60 to me that's like pissing on someone and saying it's raining. It was brought to the attention of the entire United States via news that forms like this existed. Governments not going to stand by and just ignore it. I just think there's other ways for us to share information like privately PM Sarang Haeyo is absolutely right about the cab driver there was 5 spa`s hit in Washington DC along with many other states which are really not my concern and as everyone else knows the majority of these girls are not slaves some of them are paying back money but the majority of them, come and and go as they please. Immediately after learning of the other's spa`s troubles they immediately shut the door`s and ladies hit the road for hire ground until the floodwater reside back to their normal levels if that is even possible. Many of these girls come in to the country with good papers. Their visas expire at which time they cannot afford to get in trouble so there always hiding. I just think that we need to put our heads together we should be intelligent enough between too fine a solution for the situation. It would be nice if couple of the seniors can get together and start putting something together. This way we have a plan of attack to fight back. This is just one man of many men's opinion!
Stay safe.
Happy Hunting,
AJ
Member #4338
08-17-06, 07:49
The WP article on the places that were raided:
"The businesses raided in Washington included the OK Spa, 2428 Wisconsin Ave. NW; 14K Spa, 1413 K St. NW; Downtown Spa, 1018 Vermont Ave. NW; Royal Spa, 520 10th St. NW; and Cleveland Park Holistic Health, 3520 Connecticut Ave. NW. Attempts to reach the businesses by phone for comment were unsuccessful."
I'm sure all the AMP's are shut. Will it last? Stay tuned.
Depressed in DC :(
Lax
Anyone who has read a newspaper report about something that they know about personally knows that the papers get much of their facts wrong and are misleading about the stuff that they don't get wrong. The post story implies that the ladies working at these places are being forced. However, from my conversations with these ladies, I refuse to believe it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/16/AR2006081601513.html
I don't want to discount the trafficing theory entirely, because it is a terrible story if it's true. It's just seems too pat of a story, one seemingly written to fulfill a political need. This is they type of bust that careers are made of.
1. The principal informants seem to have sold out everyone else to save their own asses.
2. There's the anti-corruption angle which includes the two NYPD that were taking bribes.
3. The sex workers' easiest way out is to play along.
4. Why haven't any of those AMP sex workers escaped and sought out LE heretofore? We've been to these AMPs and they are not remotely prisons, let alone secure facilties.
5. There's lots of cash money laying around that gets confiscated and never returned to the AMP owners.
6. These agencies have been looking for a win since having their reputations soiled post 9-11. They need a big, wholesome, family-values win with lots of photo ops and one that's bound to get lots of press. AMPS and sex worker trafficing have pretty good girls made to behave as harlots photo-ops galore and plenty culturally allowable purient interest from folks that wouldn't normally say the word "wh0re" outside of church.
7. These agencies have lots of money to spend post 9-11 and have hired lots of extra staff tasked to pursue crimes that they will make up if they can't actually find them.
8. Hunting Koreans is a hell of a lot safer and easier than hunting terrorists.
9. I've gotten plenty of trinket gifts from favorite AMP ladies returning from Korea, and enjoyed seeing them rested and refreshed as only a long vacation can make one feel.
10. Aw, that's enough to make my point.
Could these stories be true? Sure. Should we believe them at face value as presented by the government we all know, love and trust? No fucking way.
RobuxI know of a few providers who got breast enhancement. It would be hard for me to believe that forced labor has such benefits or that one would do such a thing with their money in a forced labor situation. I've been to some of the red light disticts in Korea, those women often seem very unhappy and young. It is easier for me to believe that they are forced than some of the regulars I've had over the years.
BigTig
A shame this is for sure. LLOS has the best suggestion(s) here. After reading about this today, I figured NoVA would def. get the ripple effect. HWC and Sakura were closed today. NoVA feels tha pain as well.
Stay safe.
ZhuxiSakura's sign was on last night. It looked as if they were open. I may go by there today, if I do, I'll drop a note to tell if it's open.
BigTig
On channel 5's new 11 o'clock newscast last night, the reporter covering the raids mentioned that they were being discussed in a popular sex discussion forum. On the screen flashed none other than the USASexGuide home page. The reporter then quoted Laxman#2: "The dark days return to DC," shaking his head in the self-righteous manner of so many television "journalists." The reporter on channel 4 meanwhile stopped at four of the places raided, mentioning how this vile activity was happening in respectable neighborhoods so close to key government institutions. Perhaps because they supplied the clientele for the AMPs? This point, of course, was not brought up by the intrepid investigator, just shock that governmental figures were blind to the awful hedonism occuring right around the corner.
I went there today hoping to monger but no one answered the door, called back a few times throughout the day and got the recycled "your party is not available" greeting, anyone know what’s up with that?
Previously I’d seen this ***** named mimi, young & slim, face was average at best, attitude could have been much better, and top was fake. But she had a nice thick dark soft pair of pussy lips sticking out, real nice
Anyone up for mongering sometime? Sometimes it’s nice to get the review minutes before your turn, sometimes it’s nice to have another couple in the same room, you get the idea. My preference is to have a few drinks and a smoke before going in, PM me if interested
Thoughts?
The Dr. Of Love
Dr.:
Not only have the issues at hand been posted all over the board, they are all over the media outlets also (Radio and TV)...
If reading what is posted just prior to your post is not your cup of tea, turn on the TV or radio.
As was stated earlier, BLACK WEDNESDAY!
Van
On channel 5's new 11 o'clock newscast last night, the reporter covering the raids mentioned that they were being discussed in a popular sex discussion forum. On the screen flashed none other than the USASexGuide home page. The reporter then quoted Laxman#2: "The dark days return to DC," shaking his head in the self-righteous manner of so many television "journalists." The reporter on channel 4 meanwhile stopped at four of the places raided, mentioning how this vile activity was happening in respectable neighborhoods so close to key government institutions. Perhaps because they supplied the clientele for the AMPs? This point, of course, was not brought up by the intrepid investigator, just shock that governmental figures were blind to the awful hedonism occuring right around the corner.That Fox 5 thing was a joke. Self-righteous indeed. The hot air those guys blow is enough to make anyone throw up. And I was about to, right after I finished whiping my tears. :(
Zhuxi
The only possible outcome of flashing USsexguide on TV is that now a gazillion new mongers will begin posting.
Read the post, royal, downtown, 1413k, and ok were listed as busted yesterday.
rev333
On channel 5's new 11 o'clock newscast last night, the reporter covering the raids mentioned that they were being discussed in a popular sex discussion forum. On the screen flashed none other than the USASexGuide home page. The reporter then quoted Laxman#2: "The dark days return to DC," shaking his head in the self-righteous manner of so many television "journalists." The reporter on channel 4 meanwhile stopped at four of the places raided, mentioning how this vile activity was happening in respectable neighborhoods so close to key government institutions. Perhaps because they supplied the clientele for the AMPs? This point, of course, was not brought up by the intrepid investigator, just shock that governmental figures were blind to the awful hedonism occuring right around the corner.
"White collared conservative flashing down the street,
Pointing their plastic finger at me.
They're hoping soon my kind will drop and die,
But I'm gonna wave my freak flag high, high.
Wave on, wave on." -Jimi Hendrix :p
How much for bail, I can list a few I could spring for! Girls only want to send home to support elderly parents. Gambling, and shopping. I feel for them. If you send me the info on I would bail a few out.
Freshly Snipes
08-17-06, 16:35
Read the post, royal, downtown, 1413k, and ok were listed as busted yesterday.
rev333As well CHPC.
my condolences go out to the fabulous ladies and gents who were involved in the situations. I was warned by my x amp GF to avoid places during aug thru nov. I would like to help anyone I can to get bail. Pm me! Checking the ages is suprising as all over 30! As I am almost 6 I do not feel liike I am robing the cradle "smile' gues the escort list will swell, and $$ shift in their direction. Som people will cellebrate *****. Not me!
Benchseats Rock
08-17-06, 16:55
On channel 5's new 11 o'clock newscast last night, the reporter covering the raids mentioned that they were being discussed in a popular sex discussion forum. On the screen flashed none other than the USASexGuide home page. The reporter then quoted Laxman#2: "The dark days return to DC," shaking his head in the self-righteous manner of so many television "journalists." The reporter on channel 4 meanwhile stopped at four of the places raided, mentioning how this vile activity was happening in respectable neighborhoods so close to key government institutions. Perhaps because they supplied the clientele for the AMPs? This point, of course, was not brought up by the intrepid investigator, just shock that governmental figures were blind to the awful hedonism occuring right around the corner.
I'm sure that in the interest of full disclosure the reporter went out of his way to mention that the basement of the IRS building was a government run whorehouse for the Union Army in a past incarnation. I guess the obvious joke is that you can still get fucked in the same building, care of the same government.
Benchseats Rock
I guess Woodbridge is not too far.
Sarang Haeyo
08-17-06, 18:17
This is definitely a bad situation. There's always a lesson to be learned. In the Waterbury CT raid the Fed`s stated along with other information forms like this one were an open source of information.
AJThis site is indeed an "open source of information".
However we should not be so naive as to think that if it weren't for this site the AMPs would be up and running full speed ahead.
Does anyone on this site know any LE officers? If so, are you friendly with them? These guys, AND their superiors know exactly what goes on inside the AMPs. The AMPs were in business a long time before Bill Gates opened his garage door.
They were getting busted years ago only to reopen soon after. If anyone thinks we civilians are the only ones frequenting these places think again.
Men are men, politicians, INS officials, LE, us, we've all got this desire to be with a woman who is nice to us and from my experience, nobody pulls it off (no pun intended) like a Korean woman.
To my mind, the reason these raids are taking place has everything to do with INS and the current influx of illegals. As someone said a few posts back, it's easier to hunt Koreans girls than terrorists.
Please don't feel bad about what you've posted here as far as info. INS and LE would be hitting these joints anyway.
Good luck finding substitute places to play. If the powers that be would open their minds and see how great the AMP experience is. But of course I'm dreaming.
Smokey2009
08-17-06, 18:33
As bad as this might sound- im glad OK Spa got shut down, they had the worse girls in DC along with the highest prices. The other spas i really dont know much about. BUT....
Good job DCPD, considerin your under a "crime" emergency and should be focusin on all the drug dealers/gangs around DC, you go and bust a bunch of spas.
Im not sure about everyone else here, but ive never heard of someone getting killed/shot/robbed while goin to one of these places.
Then again, useless FEDs have to bust these places because they are probably the easiest to bust, they dont have to be in the line of danger and runnin the risk of gettin hurt... in my view they are COWARDS!! whose laziness drives them to bust these establishments and feel all rewarded because they did the sorroundin communities so much good by do this.
I LOST RESPECT FOR THE DCPD and INVESTIGATORS in DC when DC became a wild shootout with practically a shootin or murder each night. YET I dont see these "law enforcers" in the areas where these murders and shooting particularly take place but instead you hear about them bustin spas and bustin SWs in DC, which in my personal view should be the last of their DAMN CONCERNS.
Kilgore Trout #2
08-17-06, 18:41
I visited CPHH last week and had a great time. It was my first time back in about 2 months and was upset that Connie no longer worked there; however, my disappointment went away quickly when Barbi entered the room...needless to say, I had a great time.
I've been doing th AMP scene for over ten years now (I moved to DC from Philly a few years ago) and do not think these girls are being "forced" to do anything against their wills--I'm sure there may be a few exceptions.
I "dated" a girl from an AMP in Philly. She would take a weekend off once every month or so and call me. I'd pick her up (she had no car and lived in center city Philly) and we'd spend the weekend at my place or go down to Atlantic City...she had no interest in my money, as others have stated they make a "small fortune"...she often offered to pay for dinner or the room, etc. She owned a townhouse in San Fransico. I think the media is blowing this one way out of proportion. The bright side is that it looks like these girls will not be charged since they are "victims".
it's scary to me that i have as many posts as i do. when i found this site Robux had like 300 posts. Motorback had like 250. Now I've surpassed MB and to Robux I'm coming on strong. I need a new hobby...[/i]Damn, great minds do think alike... I was reminicing about my time here. Hell I have quit this stupid hobby more often than most people post. Just cant seem to find one that is more, uh, satisfying....
Trashman was in his prime. The undisputed Don. Only one rat bastard had the stones to fuck with him just before his passing, and I can't even remember that piece of shit's screen name.
I clearly remember Robux coming on board, and impressing Hondo and I with the depth of his perversion.
There was this young noobie upstart calling himself Loop VET. He did know the streets though, hmmmmmmm. I immediately referred to him as Loopy and we have gotten along wonderfully ever since. Brotha.
XSailor was the number 1 reporter for the AMPs. Then he married well.
VD (not the disease), Lax, Moonie and Rev333 were promising noobies a year later... Some still have some promise... ;)
My debt of gratitude goes to WW1 for taking over the AMP lists. Thank you thank you thank you...
The ultimate noob has got to be BW. He has certainly made a difference in my life this past 14 months... Whitelair, parties exceptionale, Nogi... A class act.
And who the fuck is this Bench guy, anyway? Should change the screenname to Squeeky Box Springs Rock....
Baltimonger just seems out of place in DC, but actually he is really just out of place in civilized society. A true Kindred Spirit.
Dr Pussy, are you fucking on drugs or just unable to read? Please, by all means continue to knock on AMP doors until somebody answers. The let us know when that happens... Duh-huh.
Hae Yo, your insight is very very compelling and your last post should be entered into EVIDENCE for the trial.
There are a lot of guys that have cum and gone, others that lurk, some are just dumb asses and I have forgotten all about them. I will reserve judgement on guys like G13 who show promise.
Sorry to ramble, I think I am in shock and depression... Time for a PARTY!
Let's keep 'em wet...
LoveLOS
The only possible outcome of flashing USsexguide on TV is that now a gazillion new mongers will begin posting.
Yes, and a gazillion more opportunities to post "RTFF."
Dick North
08-17-06, 19:01
Damn, great minds do think alike... I was reminicing about my time here. Hell I have quit this stupid hobby more often than most people post. Just cant seem to find one that is more, uh, satisfying....
Trashman was in his prime. The undisputed Don. Only one rat bastard had the stones to fuck with him just before his passing, and I can't even remember that piece of shit's screen name.
I clearly remember Robux coming on board, and impressing Hondo and I with the depth of his perversion.
There was this young noobie upstart calling himself Loop VET. He did know the streets though, hmmmmmmm. I immediately referred to him as Loopy and we have gotten along wonderfully ever since. Brotha.
XSailor was the number 1 reporter for the AMPs. Then he married well.
VD (not the disease), Lax, Moonie and Rev333 were promising noobies a year later... Some still have some promise... ;)
My debt of gratitude goes to WW1 for taking over the AMP lists. Thank you thank you thank you...
The ultimate noob has got to be BW. He has certainly made a difference in my life this past 14 months... Whitelair, parties exceptionale, Nogi... A class act.
And who the fuck is this Bench guy, anyway? Should change the screenname to Squeeky Box Springs Rock....
Baltimonger just seems out of place in DC, but actually he is really just out of place in civilized society. A true Kindred Spirit.
Dr Pussy, are you fucking on drugs or just unable to read? Please, by all means continue to knock on AMP doors until somebody answers. The let us know when that happens... Duh-huh.
Hae Yo, your insight is very very compelling and your last post should be entered into EVIDENCE for the trial.
There are a lot of guys that have cum and gone, others that lurk, some are just dumb asses and I have forgotten all about them. I will reserve judgement on guys like G13 who show promise.
Sorry to ramble, I think I am in shock and depression... Time for a PARTY!
LoveLOS
LL, my most admired monger of all times. What the bajeebers is going on?
The tone of your post is melancholy and sounds as tho you are 'signing off'
Tell us that it ain't so!!!
DN
LL, my most admired monger of all times. What the bajeebers is going on?
The tone of your post is melancholy and sounds as tho you are 'signing off'
Tell us that it ain't so!!!
DN
Hell NO!!!!
Just depressed 'cause it's been weeks since I have eaten Korean (pussy) and I have Yellow fever real fuckin bad... However, see this link....
LL
Then this mean that they pretty much network info between each other. I was planning on going to Supra tomorrow. I think now i'll take a rain check until the heat dies down.
Damn I hope the cops don't try to prove that. they could set themselves up for RICO conspiracy changes that the FEDS used to shut down the mob.
I'm but a pup to the hobby that has only partaked on special occassions, but I agree the whole thing just seems to be a hypocritical political game for the camera at our and the women's expense. Every single girl I have met, didn't even hint at being a prisoner or what not silliness. All, Bull cr*p!
If they want something to do, Why don'y they investigate the "religious" republican congressmen who take the "fact finding" missions to the Far East to play with little girls? Or maybe actually catch Bush's childhood friend, Osama? Or maybe put ther effort to actually figuring out how to win any real war (0 for 2 with this Israeli war).
Jet Ranger
08-18-06, 04:46
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.
Sarang Haeyo
08-18-06, 06:03
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.I'd sure like to read what was in the redacted statements.
Quick note to Won Yoon: the Bay Terrace Mall is in BAYSIDE not Flushing. Your entire testimony goes right down the "hwajangshil" (toilet) with that screw-up. (see page 31 of his statement)
Quick note to girlfriend: Okay baby, time to get out of this business.
Nice work Jet, what a way to start the day.
Seriously, my compliments. It is indeed nice to see my previous info backed up by government agencies.
I read the entire thing this morning. I don't see a problem. Other than the fact that what's being done is illegal what's the big deal?
I'm going to see my AMP girl this weekend, I'd print that report and read it to her but our time is better spent on other matters.
Jet- Good stuff. You're right, this sounds alot like what you should already know. I do not see anything about providers being slaves though... Seems like the ladies were willing enough. Wonder where that report is; and how it will match up with things like "Helping the providers find a favorable working enviroment"?
Zhuxi
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.
I guess Woodbridge is not too far.
I checked yesterday and for sure Sakura and HWC are closed.
BT
Member #4338
08-18-06, 08:59
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.
Jet:
Very interesting reading indeed! Thanks for the research.
Upon reading this document it doesn't appear to me that these girls were "sex slaves" when they were transmitting large sums of money back to Korea.
Navy. i don't think there are actually in jail, the paper says so but if i know the feds, then they currently are in some kind of sex slave holding till they determine if they are victims or not.
rev333
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.
Wow this was fascinating. It's better than most movies that have come out lately. And just like Hollywood, if you got too old, you would not get any work. It's amazing how similar the rent a space at a AMP is eerily similar to the process for strippers to move around from place to place paying to dance.
I agree with Lax, sex slaves huh? They were making some serious money if they were in the right spot. 15-20K per month!!!
It was interesting to see how picky the owners could be. How could a woman be too tall?
Not to mention the idea that there was even room for advancement. A enterprising woman could eventually own her own place. She just needed to have a few cell phone numbers. This was an incredible underground network. It has to rival the underground railroad and the Osama's network when it comes to secrecy. (Ok that may be taking it too far, but how much if this did we know about before the report? How much would LE had known without an insider)
Thanks again for the read!
BigTig
Hey LL,
I just wanted to say you brought back some memories with that post and that one douchebag who fucked with Trashman. I first found the forum about that time and thought that guy was a prick too. He had some slick name and bragged about being an older smooth guy who banged young hot nonworking girls at some dance club in Tysons, maybe in some hotel or something. I remember Trash as always coming out far superior than the low blows that Mr. Prick was throwing.
Navy. i don't think there are actually in jail, the paper says so but if i know the feds, then they currently are in some kind of sex slave holding till they determine if they are victims or not.
rev333
Rev:
Do you think the Feds are using first-hand (or mouth) testing to ascertain if these ladies are indeed slaves or simply using their talents?
Van
Wow this was fascinating. It's better than most movies that have come out lately. And just like Hollywood, if you got too old, you would not get any work. It's amazing how similar the rent a space at a AMP is eerily similar to the process for strippers to move around from place to place paying to dance.
I agree with Lax, sex slaves huh? They were making some serious money if they were in the right spot. 15-20K per month!!!
It was interesting to see how picky the owners could be. How could a woman be too tall?
Not to mention the idea that there was even room for advancement. A enterprising woman could eventually own her own place. She just needed to have a few cell phone numbers. This was an incredible underground network. It has to rival the underground railroad and the Osama's network when it comes to secrecy. (Ok that may be taking it too far, but how much if this did we know about before the report? How much would LE had known without an insider)
Thanks again for the read!
BigTig
Damn BigTig:
I thought I was probably the only one to read the whole report...
I agree with those who stated that a sex slave could not send thousands of dollars back home. If they were only working to pay off their debt to get them here, how would they have any other $$$ to send home?
I say we get those who were not arrested or taken in by INS and give them a place to work... These ladies need a job... Let's give it to them.
Van
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.
Sounds like a well organized machine to me. My guess is they'll be back, to much money involved not to...!
Does anyone know if any unfortunate local mongers got hooked during the raids?
Good post JR.
MnV
I have plenty of "yellow fever" antidotes(grin), MiMiElixer(grin)
Wet Dreams, PW
Hell NO!!!!
Just depressed 'cause it's been weeks since I have eaten Korean (pussy) and I have Yellow fever real fuckin bad... However, see this link....
LL
Freshly Snipes
08-18-06, 15:39
Damn I hope the cops don't try to prove that. they could set themselves up for RICO conspiracy changes that the FEDS used to shut down the mob.Well I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that these places are somehow connected because I've seen girls from one spot working at another local months later. They all charge the same prices, so there's no competition amongst the AMPs (if there was, one would try to out market the other by making it a little cheaper to attract more costumers). It's pretty obvious that that most of the money seems to be going into ONE BIG POCKET.
Sounds like a well organized machine to me. My guess is they'll be back, to much money involved not to...!
Does anyone know if any unfortunate local mongers got hooked during the raids?
Good post JR.
MnVI wonder if DC amps will go the way of SF amps. As many of you know, the SF amp scene completely died following their version of "Black Wednesday" more than a year ago (which they call "Black Thursday"), and most of the activity nowadays in the SF Bay Area is run out of aamps in the South Bay. I'm sure that things will eventually come back, as MV said. However, I can't help but wonder in what form.
It was interesting to see how picky the owners could be. How could a woman be too tall?
And I was surprised by the steady stream of requests for girls with big breasts!
I thought it was interesting in the report that is says some of the girls were reluctant to work for a certain mamasan. Did they have a choice whether or not to work at certain establishments?
fvr
To those of us who have been around and gotten to know the girls, most of the information in here shouldn't be a surprise. The document attached is over 60 pages and some of it has been redacted. Interesting reading.
Yellofvr,
The gov't is being disingenuous in stating that these girls are "slaves". It is true that they need to pay back the money they borrowed in order to come here. If they do not, then their family in China, Korea, or wherever they come from, will be punished severely. However the women can do whatever they want or work wherever they want if they can pay back the money by doing so.
Sometimes they choose to leave and go to a different spa, and sometimes the mamasan (manager) will arrange for new talent according to what they feel their clients desire.
The government has a special visa program aimed at trafficked women. It will be interesting to see how many of these "victims" are allowed to take advantage of these visas. The government normally says that if a girl knowingly came here in order to work in the sex trade, then she is not entitled to the visa.
As I've stated before, the government would like to have its cake and eat it too. Just my opinion.
Lex
Just after the Civil War when I went to junior high school we called that indentured servitude and it was distinct enough from slavery that we lost points on tests if we confused the two.
Well I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that these places are somehow connected because I've seen girls from one spot working at another local months later. They all charge the same prices, so there's no competition amongst the AMPs (if there was, one would try to out market the other by making it a little cheaper to attract more costumers). It's pretty obvious that that most of the money seems to be going into ONE BIG POCKET.Isn't that the truth. On the girls being elsewhere and the money issue. I would love to know who's pockets it was going into. You can bet it was none of the people taken in. Another interesting thing about that report, is that the "Taxi" men did not seem to make much money at all.
Zhuxi
Doctor Pussy
08-18-06, 21:56
Passed by Mirage today, they had a hand written sign up stating they’d be open again on Sunday, so I’m thinking we get a whole rack of us pu55y mongers together, get tanked for about an hour at the Irish pub down the street while we share some stories/recommendations, head out there and start d!ckin down some hoes, any takers?
Went to Rising Sun in Greenbelt the other day. Old bag answers the door, takes my cheese, tells me to undress and lie face down (always a bad sign), comes back I tell her I want the works, she says they don’t do that, no way Jose. Wouldn’t even take her clothes off.
But of course she WOULD take the same amount as a DC amp. Man, funk that. I got my cheese back and headed out never to return to that hot dog stand again.
So now it seems like yet another day I’m sitting on an everincreasing load of unspent manhood. I don’t know how many more days I can go on like this, it’s unbearable. I can’t focus on my work, I’m forgetting appointments, it got so bad I catch myself swerving on the road while stone cold sober. I can’t imagine I’m the only one going through this and people who complain about herion withdrawal I guarantee have never had to deal with an amp shutdown.
And I was surprised by the steady stream of requests for girls with big breasts!
Drew:
I must admit that those requests were because of me... Asian women with large natural breasts are my thing.
I hope I helped out with defining the appropriate girl.
Van
I would strongly suggest everyone stop posting info on anything for awhile. D.C. is red hot and we are not helping matters any... Read my post on NOVA...
Passed by Mirage today, they had a hand written sign up stating they’d be open again on Sunday, so I’m thinking we get a whole rack of us pu55y mongers together, get tanked for about an hour at the Irish pub down the street while we share some stories/recommendations, head out there and start d!ckin down some hoes, any takers?
Went to Rising Sun in Greenbelt the other day. Old bag answers the door, takes my cheese, tells me to undress and lie face down (always a bad sign), comes back I tell her I want the works, she says they don’t do that, no way Jose. Wouldn’t even take her clothes off.
But of course she WOULD take the same amount as a DC amp. Man, funk that. I got my cheese back and headed out never to return to that hot dog stand again.
So now it seems like yet another day I’m sitting on an everincreasing load of unspent manhood. I don’t know how many more days I can go on like this, it’s unbearable. I can’t focus on my work, I’m forgetting appointments, it got so bad I catch myself swerving on the road while stone cold sober. I can’t imagine I’m the only one going through this and people who complain about herion withdrawal I guarantee have never had to deal with an amp shutdown.
where has Doc Pussy been all this time :)
Crazy Jim Wood
08-20-06, 03:25
Supra Spa (Dupont Spa?), 1333 Connecticut Ave NW, 4th floor, Washington, Dc, (202) 775-1333
A friendly homeless chap helped me to parallel park on the crowded street. I gave him a buck, and he wanted $3.99 so that he could get some chicken. I told him that he could get a chicken sandwich for $.99. I quickly found #1333 Connecticut Ave, but the spa is not clearly marked. There is also a tatoo parlor and fortune teller in the same building which are clearly marked However, the street entrance was locked and I could not figure out how to get in. Fortunately, my homeless friend rescued me and explained that I had to use the intercom, where "4th floor spa" is written in faded, barely legible ink. I am not sure the button even works, and I was only able to gaina ccess after another customer left. I was greeted at the door by an older, Korean woman, who led me to a room and sent in the first girl. She was pretty, but a little flat in the chest department, so I asked for another girl. Jinnae (sp?) came in next. Wow, she was stacked, and cute. She had four rose tatoos on ber right breast and appeared to have had a bridge for her four front teeth, so this girl has probably been around the block, but she was still hot and sweet as can be. Oh, they were either real or an exceptional job that was just as good as real. She collected the house fee ($60 for 30 minutes) and gave me a nice table shower followed by massage. She then rubbed her huge breasts all over my back and started to tickle my ass. Well, the full service was exceptional. Price was not discussed beyond the house fee, but I left her a $100 tip. On the way out, I saw a really skinny Korean girl. Not my taste, but not ugly, either.
Camelot Show Bar, 1823 M St NW, Washington, DC 20036, 202-887-5966.
I started things up Saturday at the Camelot Show Bar, which is touted on the internet (wizeoldman dot com) as the "Best club in DC... one of the best in the US." This is, in my opinion, a slight exageration. There were no table dances, no booths in the back for private dances, and the dancers were not as slutty as I like them. On the plus side, no one pushed for tips or tried to force me to buy drinks, and it seems like street parking is free on Saturday and Sunday. It is also less than 5 minutes walk from Supra Spa. None of the dancers were exceptionally beautiful, nor were the dances that exciting, but most were good MILF material and sufficient for my purposes of getting warmed up for a massage. After I had watched six dancers the first dancer came back on stage so I decided it was time to go get that massage.
Help a brother out
Brothers, I am tired of kimchi. I have heard that there are Chinese providers, incall appartments as it were, but they seem to be hard to find. Please PM me with any info.
Jimbo
Vice Squad
08-20-06, 05:45
I would strongly suggest everyone stop posting info on anything for awhile. D.C. is red hot and we are not helping matters any... Read my post on NOVA...
I don't think posting or not posting will have any effect either way.
Doctor Pussy
08-20-06, 13:36
first off I'm starting to notice ppl heading to veeayy for some action and I don't think the problem is being solved the right way.
Generally speaking, the most you're gonna get in veeayy is a hj and it'll cost you a franklin, ouch! First off, I may be in the minority in feeling that an hj is a joke, I could give myself a better one and it wouldn't cost me the time or logistical hassle of going out for it.
Specifically, the townhouse on Backlick road, TK, ATMB on Lee hwy in Arlington (though one time I did pork a fat old beiatch there complete with bbcsim but she was promply relieved of duty shortly thereafter and since then it's been hj at best).
The places in Tysons are 2 of them around Tyco Rd are hit or miss, however a couple years ago at $70/30 min it's a bit much for me (I'm sure not more than pocket change for you gents though), if you ever do run into an older lady named Sissy with a hairy pussy, take it and report since I may like to squash that again as well.
so that said, it seems like we're all settling for second best here and after years of frustration I don't like settling for second best and neither does a friend of mine who's got no money but his favorite thing to do is give a creampie and doesn't like to be rushed. He prefers to have a few beiatches around, drink and scr3w all night (and of course dine at the Y).
So to satisfy him, me, and the rest of us here's what I propose.
We get a core group of fellas together and book a trip to either Japan (where you're likely to get laid for free) or Cambodia (where they grow 'em real small) or The Philippines (where they speak English). The latter option should only be used if there is not a single seasoned international traveller in the group.
Get em off the street (not at a bar) and bring to the hotel, from there it's nthing more than a f*ckfest. Straws are drawn to determine the order with my buddy going last (since he'll be squirtin the mayonnaise to increase the population and I'm sure that would be rather unsavory to anyone following after that). This buddy of mine also insists on bringing a moviecam to document the experirnece (at least his "portion" of it) and well you get the idea.
So you have a choice, pay top dinero for some old hag to pull your pud till it hurts (both physically and financially) or pay nickels and dimes for all nighters with several gals at a time who are skinnier and love their jobs and you won't have to rely on memory alone to relive the experience years later.
Are the amps still closed? I guess we here in Atlanta will be next after North and South Carolina. I hear they are working thier way on down. Better come on down for another visit before they arrive, but as you know, we have our private stock(grin). Keep your chin up and dick high, thing will evolve to good finds in due time, may all be private homes for a while, but they will always be here and there, RIGHT!! See ya soon,
Wet Dreams, PW
Smokey2009
08-20-06, 17:44
Oriental Spicy went down with the best of them about 2 weeks ago aswell in the Rockville area in MD.
I honestly hope this scene doesnt go away from the DC area, i honestly feel safer, from all aspects, goin to a spa rather than searchin on the street. Nevertheless, i guess that is all we are left with.
We get a core group of fellas together and book a trip to either Japan (where you're likely to get laid for free) or Cambodia (where they grow 'em real small) or The Philippines (where they speak English). The latter option should only be used if there is not a single seasoned international traveller in the group.
Get em off the street (not at a bar) and bring to the hotel, from there it's nthing more than a f*ckfest. Straws are drawn to determine the order with my buddy going last (since he'll be squirtin the mayonnaise to increase the population and I'm sure that would be rather unsavory to anyone following after that). This buddy of mine also insists on bringing a moviecam to document the experirnece (at least his "portion" of it) and well you get the idea.Grand idea there. I agree with the V situation. Either way, I was in the PI earlier this year and made quite a few freinds. I have a hook up now where I have a few brought to me in the Hotel and I pick one or hell, all. Can not beat that friends, heh. The PI is more expensive then say Cambodia, but Japan is much, much more so. Personally, I think you left out the best option all around, your wallet included, and that is Thailand. Though, I must admit, .3 to .8 for all night is something I can deal with for atleast a few weeks, and I did. :)
Zhuxi
Man, funk that. I got my cheese back and headed out never to return...The smartest thing you did!!! BTW-need to check yer spelling. You misspelled Fuck. ;)
PW - Thanks for thinking of me. No trips to the city of hotties (Hotlanta) until Fall.
I was driving around on Sat: Hapiness was padlocked, Royal was locked and Sun was locked.
I am wondering if a good lawyer can arrange a plea to get the charges reduced to price fixing...
LoveLOS
PS CWJim - I saw a note about the ER0s board, Asian section, having some apartment things going. Tyson seems a popular area. Often that is Chinese or Thai - my contact intel is now useless but it was all good when I has hittin it...
Jibba Jabba
08-20-06, 19:06
So they are still open? Or is this from before. I guess thats good, but how did they avoid the fate of others.
Supra Spa (Dupont Spa?), 1333 Connecticut Ave NW, 4th floor, Washington, Dc, (202) 775-1333
Jimbo
You can drive to Canada in eight hours and its legal there. And non-koreans are plentiful!
You can drive to Canada in eight hours and its legal there. And non-koreans are plentiful!
I had no idea it was legal in Canada.
By the way, we haven't had this much chatter on the forum in awhile. Sad that Black Wednesday had to be the impetus to get the postings started again.
Van
Hollywood2
08-21-06, 00:34
So they are still open? Or is this from before. I guess thats good, but how did they avoid the fate of others.I am wondering of the same thing. I mean this AMP is a classic.
I made the climb to Supra last night (that's Sunday night, August 20) and there was a sign: "WE CLOSED" (isn't it funny that they even write in broken English?). It was so cute, I got a little stiffy just thinking about how they make small talk during those awkward, yet sexy showers.
Well if you consider it a statement in which they are expressing the fact of what they did in response to the current unpleasantness, it is in fact gramatically correct.
"What did we do? We closed."
Lex
Doctor Pussy
08-21-06, 21:45
A) it's too touristy, i.e. shaved pu55ies and a standardized business approach / attitude.
B) there are epidemiological considerations for my friend who prefers not to "go swimming with a raincoat"
I would like to take Japan off the list, wayy too pricee
Since you've been to PI b4, that may be an old hat for you (unless it was really great) I hear for the seasoned monger though, Cambodia is the best. The best Zhuxi the best (to quote Kenny Banya from Seinfeld).
Now here you've got a situation where not only the mongers from this board (if any are interested) can get some themselves but also watch fellow mongers in action, have a whole cadre of hoes servicing them all night but most of all, videotape closeups of my 'buddy' doleing out healthy portions of mayonnaise right up in the c00ch.
What could be better than that? Now that I think of it, this shutdown may be a good thing after all because now I can get more for my hard earned dollar.
ne1 care to pm me?
-The Dr. of Love
And it may have been that simple. I don't blame them a bit. I hope they escaped this witch hunt.[
QUOTE=LexLuther]Well if you consider it a statement in which they are expressing the fact of what they did in response to the current unpleasantness, it is in fact gramatically correct.
"What did we do? We closed."
Lex[/QUOTE]
Hollywood2
08-21-06, 23:02
Guys I had the nerve to think that some of these places did not answer the phone and were open (because I called them all before I visited). So I thought let me go see for myself today Monday night. EVERYTHING was closed! Went to the following:
Supra (We Closed sign as written below)
Sun (I went to 719 8th NW - could not find it)
Happiness (Big lock on the door - huge)
GHS (This was the closest that came to being open - lights were on and even the bell was lit, no one answered)
THC (that was open but although the name is the same, it did not look like a monger's place - people were in but I left)
I wanted to visit Mirage and Olympic but I got very tired, so I thought I'd hit Woodbridge.
Sakura - Lit Sign was lit and looked open, no one answered the door (why do you leave the sign lit if not open? Seriously...)
HWC (took me a while to find suite D cos it's upstairs - looked open, no one would answer)
Finally, I thought Manassas would be the charm - went to Champio, huge sign outside CLOSED, as if it were closed for a while (would not be surprised)/
So what the hell are my options here? Thursday night is my last night at NoVA for a long long time.
I cant believe the heat that Black Wed. has brought to even the burb scene. Unbelievable.
Black WednesdayDamn, I just posted about my last adventure which was on the day before all this crap went down!
I return from a week in the mountains and check the board, planning my next tour -- only to find myself wiping the sweat from my brow. I guess luck was with me for once.
All the best to the girls.
DrP and Zooli,
How about a week @ each. It is two different attitudes, but I like both... But with a screen name like LoveLOS whooda guessed?
AJ has a post in General Reports that everybody here needs to read. This is fucked up.
Holly - Gratitude for taking the time and effort to personally visit and report! A hearty welcome to the board!
LL
Guys I had the nerve to think that some of these places did not answer the phone and were open (because I called them all before I visited). So I thought let me go see for myself today Monday night. EVERYTHING was closed! Went to the following:
Supra (We Closed sign as written below)
Sun (I went to 719 8th NW - could not find it)
Happiness (Big lock on the door - huge)
GHS (This was the closest that came to being open - lights were on and even the bell was lit, no one answered)
THC (that was open but although the name is the same, it did not look like a monger's place - people were in but I left)
I wanted to visit Mirage and Olympic but I got very tired, so I thought I'd hit Woodbridge.
Sakura - Lit Sign was lit and looked open, no one answered the door (why do you leave the sign lit if not open? Seriously...)
HWC (took me a while to find suite D cos it's upstairs - looked open, no one would answer)
Finally, I thought Manassas would be the charm - went to Champio, huge sign outside CLOSED, as if it were closed for a while (would not be surprised)/
So what the hell are my options here? Thursday night is my last night at NoVA for a long long time.
I cant believe the heat that Black Wed. has brought to even the burb scene. Unbelievable.
The only one left is Soo-Gung. I saw a Open sign lit tonight, but did not have the funds to go in. I may try tomorrow.
BigTig
Navy. i don't think there are actually in jail, the paper says so but if i know the feds, then they currently are in some kind of sex slave holding till they determine if they are victims or not.
rev333
I think they are in some type of holding cell for illegal immigrants. or are in hotels that the Feds use when getting snitches to testify against people. If that's true then this thing ain't over. Anybody being held incommuncado from their families is likely cooperating with the gov't. Even gov't wouldn't deny a ordinary criminal, a phone call, an access to a lawyer.
Well I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that these places are somehow connected because I've seen girls from one spot working at another local months later. They all charge the same prices, so there's no competition amongst the AMPs (if there was, one would try to out market the other by making it a little cheaper to attract more costumers). It's pretty obvious that that most of the money seems to be going into ONE BIG POCKET.
I agree I know for a fact that AMP prices have remained constant in diffrent locals for over a decade. But if the feds prove that they WILL put AMP's out of bussiness for good. Or drive deep underground.
I agree I know for a fact that AMP prices have remained constant in diffrent locals for over a decade. But if the feds prove that they WILL put AMP's out of bussiness for good. Or drive deep underground.
Man, if they get them for price fixing, where am I going to take my drycleaning after they get the Korean drycleaners for price fixing at $0.99/shirt?
It seems to me that the Korean drycleaner would be an easy target for the Feds to squash the American Dream AGAIN!
Van
Man, if they get them for price fixing, where am I going to take my drycleaning after they get the Korean drycleaners for price fixing at $0.99/shirt?
It seems to me that the Korean drycleaner would be an easy target for the Feds to squash the American Dream AGAIN!
Van
Knowing the Gov't I wouldn't be suprised if they did go after the Drycleaners for Tax evasion or hiring Illegals. Today's Post say that Illegal Immigrants is the only stick that the GOP has left to keep the house. The fact that I am a US college Graduate, With all the grammatical errors I post should be reason enough to throw out all the bums.
I think they are in some type of holding cell for illegal immigrants. or are in hotels that the Feds use when getting snitches to testify against people. If that's true then this thing ain't over. Anybody being held incommuncado from their families is likely cooperating with the gov't. Even gov't wouldn't deny a ordinary criminal, a phone call, an access to a lawyer.
As long as this fascist group is in office...I wouldn't be surprised!
My guess, the ones without papers are already gone(and they were probably the ones that gave the best service!)...:(
Knowing the Gov't I wouldn't be suprised if they did go after the Drycleaners for Tax evasion or hiring Illegals. Today's Post say that Illegal Immigrants is the only stick that the GOP has left to keep the house. The fact that I am a US college Graduate, With all the grammatical errors I post should be reason enough to throw out all the bums.
Oh ye WiseBorn:
I forgot about the employment of illegals in drycleaners...
Van
As long as this fascist group is in office...I wouldn't be surprised!
My guess, the ones without papers are already gone(and they were probably the ones that gave the best service!)...:(I have to admin, I voted for the current fascist group and deserve some heat. As much as I disliked Slick Willie, I can't see him getting upset over the rest of us getting a BJ!
Jack
Dick North
08-22-06, 20:28
As long as this fascist group is in office...I wouldn't be surprised!
My guess, the ones without papers are already gone(and they were probably the ones that gave the best service!)...:(
Just curious exactly which governmental group you are referring to.
Would love to hear a more definitive explanation of your rant.
Furthermore 'fascism' refers directly to a totalitarian form of government, which in my understanding does not exit in the USA.
DN
Just curious exactly which governmental group you are referring to.
Would love to hear a more definitive explanation of your rant.
DNExplanation? This whole administration is a joke, and every branch is at least indirectly run by this administration.
The whole immigration issue and "sex trafficking" bullshit, is obviously a trend of the obviousness that is happening and did make a big impact on the west coast earlier this year.
A damn shame the DC AMPs are closed; The only rant that should be brought up here, is the rant the people on the hill make about AMPs, when they where the same people getting they’re dick twisted in these places; weekly.
Zhuxi
Just curious exactly which governmental group you are referring to.
Would love to hear a more definitive explanation of your rant.
DN
Why...the Democrats of course...Ollie! :p
Dick North
08-22-06, 21:40
Why...the Democrats of course...Ollie! :p
If you think your cute little headline was convincing ... think again!
I have no beef with you, but I do get mighty pissed when someone responds to me with such an insulting statement. I merely asked that you clarify your statement with further explanation. I can assure you that not all of the USG mongers agree with your political beliefs ... nor should they. Nor should it even be a question. My post simply asked that you clarify which governmental agencies you were taking to task. Now if that is too much to ask, then just forget it. It becomes obvious that you have an irreversible mindset and can't discuss any issues unless they are couched in your political beliefs.
DN
If you think your cute little headline was convincing ... think again!
I have no beef with you, but I do get mighty pissed when someone responds to me with such an insulting statement. I merely asked that you clarify your statement with further explanation. I can assure you that not all of the USG mongers agree with your political beliefs ... nor should they. Nor should it even be a question. My post simply asked that you clarify which governmental agencies you were taking to task. Now if that is too much to ask, then just forget it. It becomes obvious that you have an irreversible mindset and can't discuss any issues unless they are couched in your political beliefs.
DN
Sir,
I meant no disrespect to you. My opinions(to me) are not rants, but as I believe.
I was not looking for agreement here; your politics are your own.
Tried to interject a little levity, but I think it wasted...
The site is not political based...but one of enjoyment of the "fine arts"!
MnV
Sir,
I meant no disrespect to you. My opinions (to me) are not rants, but as I believe.
I was not looking for agreement here; your politics are your own.
Tried to interject a little levity, but I think it wasted...
The site is not political based...but one of enjoyment of the "fine arts"!
MnV
Alright gentlemen:
It seems that we are all a little testy with the lack of arenas for our activities.
Now, calm down, get a good video, and go rub one out! LOL
Van
The recent amp raids are far different from those in the past.
In the past, they raided an amp, arrested the girls on state or local prostitution charges and a few on immigration (if papers were not proper); the girls put up bail, owners put up bail, the girls got out and moved to another amp in another state, the owners or managers incorporated a new amp at the same site or a different site and everything started up again. No real change.
This time the FEDS tapped, taped and translated cell phone to cell phone
conversations (which most thought were not tapable and safe) between owner/managers and recruiter/transporters and money movers and between transporters and the girls.
Via the extensive calls Feds obtained volumes of customers by day per amp (50 to 70), number of girls working per amp, amount of monthly income per
amp that a girl can earn ($17,000 to $20,000) which the girls asked the
transporters as they were offered a new amp, requests by owners to
transporters/recruiters for new girls, more girls, small girls, big-breasted girls etc.
They then identified these people by names and obtained photographs from
immigratiion (most of Korean managers, transporters, money movers are Korean born and immigrated here) and obtained confirmatiion that the photos
matched the names (from someone who fingered all of them). The Feds don't care much about the girls this time.
They identified all cell phone numbers and owners; its in the legal document.
When they made the arrests this time they arrested the
owner/managers and
recruiters/transporters and
money movers (bankers) and
they freed the "slave" girls though they are holding them so that they
can sing more and finger more of the organizationt that so harshly "subjugated" them.
These 3 groups were charged under Federal rather than State charges.
They were not charged with simple state or local prostitution but with
organized crime of obtaining, moving, paying women to perform illegal
acts in a very concerted manner and accross state lines.
This is like racketering, which is very tough.
These folks, unless they can prove that the taps were illegal, are done;
they will serve significant jail time in tough federal prisons (5 to 20 years)
after which they will be immediately deported to Korea. Any accumulated
funds or houses, etc in America will be confiscated (using the figures of
number of cstomers x $50 or $60 minus real costs), next these estimated incomes will be compared to income tax records filed with IRS, with penalty,
interest, tax and false reporting, and more jail time added.
This will send fear into the still large remaining Korean organization of managers, transporters and money handlers. No more cell phone communication, internet is worse; so what in the future?? letters?? or just
in person stops by the Korean Taxi crime organization twice a week at each amp to pick up money and drop/pick up girls (but license plates will be traceable). No more computer or official bank fund transfers. Mattress money and mailing by ship as cargo back to Korea??
This will curtail organized amp activity as we know it now.
There will be more individual/group apartment sex by K-girls.
More independent amps. Less selection, less quality and higher prices because risk just went sky high. More K-streetwalkers??
Overall, I think less K-girls coming over here is certain.
The remaining K-organization in America and American consul visa issuers on the take in Korea must be scared shitless right now.
One of the places hit in Pa. was Callowhill Relaxation Station or what
we call Callowhill-2 (CH2). CH1 and CH0 were legends that closed in the past.
The owner manager was listed in the federal complaint as
Defendant MYONG MOON a/k/a "Debbie"
if you go in www.bop.gov (which is bureau of prisons)
and look to locate an inmate and key in MOON for last name and
MYONG for first name, you will see she is still in Federal Prison in Philly
soon to be moved to Federal Prison in NY area. She was denied bail.
They willl try to get all these key 30+ people to sing to attempt to reduce
their 20 year sentances and implicate more of the organization.
We all know the girls were not slaves, but volunteered for this to make
money, travel and meet Americans; they may have hated the work after a
while but loved the money and attention. Now the feds are making them
the victims, which will surley sway some of the jury, especially the female and religous ones to see these teary eyed beauties on the stand and the older male recruiters and hagard female mamasans as greedy users who
imprisoned these innocent girls to get banged 3,500 times per year.
( a totally unrelated thought: 3,500 shots of 1 tablespoon each or 15
milliters comes to 52,500ml or 52.5 liters of cum; now that puts it into
perspective)
I think the owners and transporters were the worst users, but we paid
and both the girls and owners made money from us.
Hey, does that in some way make us victims? Can we be re-imbursed and
sue for some of the confiscated money?
Bottom line, Homeland Security spent billions of dollars on all sorts of
surveilance equiptment to get Osama, they did not, so they got the Koreans.
Who will they go after next?
ABE LINCOLD FREED the BLACK SLAVES, BUSH FREED THE KOREAN HOOKERS
The recent amp raids are far different from those in the past.
One of the places hit in Pa. was Callowhill Relaxation Station or what
we call Callowhill-2 (CH2). CH1 and CH0 were legends that closed in the past.
The owner manager was listed in the federal complaint as
Defendant MYONG MOON a/k/a "Debbie"Debbie was a great lady. Hate to see this happen to her.
Billions for HLS and we jailed a bunch of Koreans and a bunch of disadvantage African Americans in Florida. I guess they have to justify the billions somehow. May i suggest going to Pakistan and looking for Osama! Oh - bring Bush and Dick (make sure Dick bring his shot gun).
Hey Guys,
I just have to add my little two sense here. I have been going to AMPS for years and i have befriended the Girls and Mamasans. They were kind enough to open up to me and tell me a few things. I even went out with one for a while.........man those were the days...i will surely miss them. In any of my conversations with the women did they ever say or feel that they were ever abused or mistreated. It was a business and as such if the mamasan or girl didnt like each other then they would transfer to another place. They all came here knowing what was up and they were not forced to do so. It was an option for them because those that come here like that are poor and trying to supoprt their families back in korea or in debt or other financial misfortune and looking for a way to gain more financial status. Unfortunaletly, Koreans are very much into the financial status thing. So they come here with that in mind... to make money to build their family up. Americans just dont understand the pressures of living in other countries. Americans assume that they know everything and that they can fix everything. I am alittle disturbed by how easy it has become for the government to tap our phones and spy on our lives and then use it against us and then say it for our own good. Cant beleive they used "sex slave". WOW....u know how truely uninformed the (american) public is..they will have a field day with this. And everyone will forget about the real issues at had like education, economy, raising gas prices. I truly belive that someone must have pissed someone lese off on Capitol Hill and they just did this as revenge for something. O well!
I have a question though. Is this a nation wide event because i was in cali a few months back and the AMPS there seem to be open than over here on the east coast where they have to hide alittle. Did this also hit NYC. If so then i think the AMP is officially dead and I think the Korean community will definately feel this. For me it looks like ill be going to Siam a little more now hehehehe!! Take care guys....
The recent amp raids are far different from those in the past.
In the past, they raided an amp, arrested the girls on state or local prostitution charges and a few on immigration (if papers were not proper); the girls put up bail, owners put up bail, the girls got out and moved to another amp in another state, the owners or managers incorporated a new amp at the same site or a different site and everything started up again. No real change.
This time the FEDS tapped, taped and translated cell phone to cell phone
conversations (which most thought were not tapable and safe) between owner/managers and recruiter/transporters and money movers and between transporters and the girls.
Via the extensive calls Feds obtained volumes of customers by day per amp (50 to 70), number of girls working per amp, amount of monthly income per
amp that a girl can earn ($17,000 to $20,000) which the girls asked the
transporters as they were offered a new amp, requests by owners to
transporters/recruiters for new girls, more girls, small girls, big-breasted girls etc.
They then identified these people by names and obtained photographs from
immigratiion (most of Korean managers, transporters, money movers are Korean born and immigrated here) and obtained confirmatiion that the photos
matched the names (from someone who fingered all of them). The Feds don't care much about the girls this time.
They identified all cell phone numbers and owners; its in the legal document.
When they made the arrests this time they arrested the
owner/managers and
recruiters/transporters and
money movers (bankers) and
they freed the "slave" girls though they are holding them so that they
can sing more and finger more of the organizationt that so harshly "subjugated" them.
These 3 groups were charged under Federal rather than State charges.
They were not charged with simple state or local prostitution but with
organized crime of obtaining, moving, paying women to perform illegal
acts in a very concerted manner and accross state lines.
This is like racketering, which is very tough.
These folks, unless they can prove that the taps were illegal, are done;
they will serve significant jail time in tough federal prisons (5 to 20 years)
after which they will be immediately deported to Korea. Any accumulated
funds or houses, etc in America will be confiscated (using the figures of
number of cstomers x $50 or $60 minus real costs), next these estimated incomes will be compared to income tax records filed with IRS, with penalty,
interest, tax and false reporting, and more jail time added.
This will send fear into the still large remaining Korean organization of managers, transporters and money handlers. No more cell phone communication, internet is worse; so what in the future?? letters?? or just
in person stops by the Korean Taxi crime organization twice a week at each amp to pick up money and drop/pick up girls (but license plates will be traceable). No more computer or official bank fund transfers. Mattress money and mailing by ship as cargo back to Korea??
This will curtail organized amp activity as we know it now.
There will be more individual/group apartment sex by K-girls.
More independent amps. Less selection, less quality and higher prices because risk just went sky high. More K-streetwalkers??
Overall, I think less K-girls coming over here is certain.
The remaining K-organization in America and American consul visa issuers on the take in Korea must be scared shitless right now.
One of the places hit in Pa. was Callowhill Relaxation Station or what
we call Callowhill-2 (CH2). CH1 and CH0 were legends that closed in the past.
The owner manager was listed in the federal complaint as
Defendant MYONG MOON a/k/a "Debbie"
if you go in www.bop.gov (which is bureau of prisons)
and look to locate an inmate and key in MOON for last name and
MYONG for first name, you will see she is still in Federal Prison in Philly
soon to be moved to Federal Prison in NY area. She was denied bail.
They willl try to get all these key 30+ people to sing to attempt to reduce
their 20 year sentances and implicate more of the organization.
We all know the girls were not slaves, but volunteered for this to make
money, travel and meet Americans; they may have hated the work after a
while but loved the money and attention. Now the feds are making them
the victims, which will surley sway some of the jury, especially the female and religous ones to see these teary eyed beauties on the stand and the older male recruiters and hagard female mamasans as greedy users who
imprisoned these innocent girls to get banged 3,500 times per year.
( a totally unrelated thought: 3,500 shots of 1 tablespoon each or 15
milliters comes to 52,500ml or 52.5 liters of cum; now that puts it into
perspective)
I think the owners and transporters were the worst users, but we paid
and both the girls and owners made money from us.
Hey, does that in some way make us victims? Can we be re-imbursed and
sue for some of the confiscated money?
Bottom line, Homeland Security spent billions of dollars on all sorts of
surveilance equiptment to get Osama, they did not, so they got the Koreans.
Who will they go after next?
ABE LINCOLD FREED the BLACK SLAVES, BUSH FREED THE KOREAN HOOKERS
Exactly the FEDS spent a LOT of Money on this Investigation They WILL get Convictions, This proboly won't go to trial though. But to put in prospective There was so much money being made that the AMP's where just ripe for extortion by a crime oragnization ie the Mafia and the Korean Power organization. Additionally after 9/11 the gov't is shutting down the whole Underground economy. Hezbollah is making a lot of money off of Untaxed sales of cigs and Liqour and Underground Banking and money transfer. There days where money can be spent without the gov't knowing about it numbered. End Rant.
Member #4338
08-23-06, 13:02
From Sunday's WP:
NEW YORK -- Raids that uncovered more than 70 suspected sex slaves focused on 20 brothels in the East, but they illustrated a long-ignored national problem found in towns large and small, experts say.
"It's a very overwhelming subject for a lot of people to recognize that there is slavery at this time in our country," said Carole Angel, staff attorney with the Immigrant Women Program of the women's rights advocacy group Legal Momentum in Washington. "It's hard for us as humans to contemplate what this means."
The concept of slavery in the 21st century is foreign to most people, agreed Jolene Smith, executive director of Free The Slaves, a Washington-based organization dedicated to ending slavery worldwide.
"Americans are conditioned to believe that slavery was a thing of the past," Smith said. "We have to reeducate ourselves about this reality."
On Tuesday, federal and local law enforcement raided brothels disguised as massage parlors, health spas and acupuncture clinics in New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Maryland, Rhode Island and the District of Columbia, arresting 31 people on trafficking charges.
Authorities said they also freed more than 70 sex workers, taking them to undisclosed locations for questioning and to provide basic services such as health care and food. Authorities said it might take weeks to get the Korean immigrants to trust them enough to discuss their ordeal.
It's good to know that the Feds are taking such good care of the girls :rolleyes:
So who will fill this market niche? The Chinese, of course. While they might not be party to the instigation of this investigation, they will certainly profit from it. Expect more AMPs soon, but without the kimchi.
Lax,
Thanks for that news flash. I feel safer already!
BTW, watch for whoever else jumps on this bandwagon wanting to make political hay.
Robux
Member #4338
08-23-06, 13:27
Robie:
You're surely not suggesting that some of our dedicated electd officials would try to realize some personal political gain from this tragic situation? Heaven forefend! I'm sure that some of them are personally ministering to the girls right now.
Lax
Sarang Haeyo
08-23-06, 14:15
To all of you who have contacted me asking if my girl and/or some of her business associates were interested in private parties: thank you.
I'm sure I could have netted a bundle arranging something, but I don't have a license to transport Korean women across state lines for purposes of prostitution.
To the media who are so fond of mentioning posts that appear on this website: please report some of the posts by those of us on the inside and other posts here that tell about the girls and their welfare.
To the human rights groups: SLAVERY? Not in this case. Please stop sensationalizing this.
To the girls: you women saved my life. I was near suicide when I came upon the AMP scene. I had a wife who was sexless, money hungry and a real *****.
You girls made me feel human again and gave me something to live for. What a thrill to go to the AMP, there's little that can compare to the experience. I thank you all.
To you baby: you won't read this but Kamsa Hamnida. I have never felt so thoroughly loved and cared for in my life. Thanks to you I'm alive again.
Melodramatic? Perhaps; but for those of us who actually got something other than his rocks off by visiting the AMPs; we could not have asked for anything more.
"Authorities said they also freed more than 70 sex workers, taking them to undisclosed locations for questioning and to provide basic services such as health care and food."
*********** So, they took them from the Spas to undisclosed locations so the ladies could "provide...health care and food"?
"Authorities said it might take weeks to get the Korean immigrants to trust them enough to discuss their ordeal."
*********** Why the hell would these ladies trust them at all? And, do you really think they will testify against their former employers? If the employers are really as "bad" as the Feds make them out to be, one would be a fool to testify against them.
Van
Benchseats Rock
08-23-06, 16:52
Robie:
You're surely not suggesting that some of our dedicated electd officials would try to realize some personal political gain from this tragic situation? Heaven forefend! I'm sure that some of them are personally ministering to the girls right now.
Lax
Of course they are. Just wait, the Chinese will open up a few joints just as soon as one of the Feds gets hosed at a jack shack and realizes how good it used to be. These assholes really would cut off thier nose despite their face.
Benchseats Rock
"Authorities said they also freed more than 70 sex workers, taking them to undisclosed locations for questioning and to provide basic services such as health care and food."
*********** So, they took them from the Spas to undisclosed locations so the ladies could "provide...health care and food"?
"Authorities said it might take weeks to get the Korean immigrants to trust them enough to discuss their ordeal."
*********** Why the hell would these ladies trust them at all? And, do you really think they will testify against their former employers? If the employers are really as "bad" as the Feds make them out to be, one would be a fool to testify against them.
Van
I hear the weather is really nice in Gitmo this time of year.
Baltimonger
08-23-06, 17:42
They could've got them for tax evasion.
The could've got them for prostitution.
They could have got them for immigration violations.
They could have got them for interstate commerce violations.
They could have got them for RICO.
I would have accepted what they did for what it is.
But they put in the story of "slavery" to make what they did seem more than what it was. Now they've got every bleeding heart doesn't-know-what-the-fuck-they-are-talking-about,-and-probably-never-will coming out of the woodwork telling an uneducated audience about what a great job they did freeing the 'victims' of this enterprise, and how we need MORE of this type of policing of society.
Trust me, the feds know what exactly is going on. I'm sure these girls are somewhere in less than sanitary conditions, being threatened, and being denied the most basic rights in an effort to get them to "discuss their ordeal."
They could've got them for tax evasion.
The could've got them for prostitution.
They could have got them for immigration violations.
They could have got them for interstate commerce violations.
They could have got them for RICO.
I would have accepted what they did for what it is.
But they put in the story of "slavery" to make what they did seem more than what it was. Now they've got every bleeding heart doesn't-know-what-the-fuck-they-are-talking-about,-and-probably-never-will coming out of the woodwork telling an uneducated audience about what a great job they did freeing the 'victims' of this enterprise, and how we need MORE of this type of policing of society.
Trust me, the feds know what exactly is going on. I'm sure these girls are somewhere in less than sanitary conditions, being threatened, and being denied the most basic rights in an effort to get them to "discuss their ordeal."Amen brother.
Everytime they mention slavery with this situation, then mention the girl making 5 figures a month, I throw up in my mouth, just a bit.
Zhuxi
Randy Farang
08-23-06, 18:04
Let's face it, there is an election coming and politicians are looking for things that make them look good with the electorate.
Busting AMPS is a godsent to most politicians. First, the church going portion of the electorate sees this as a good thing. We're stopping the "evildoers" here. Secondly, the rabid feminists are utterly convinced that no woman would voluntairly sell their bodies for profit. The feminists strictly believe that this could ONLY happen through force and slavery. Thirdly, it's a hell of a lot easier to bust AMPs than it is to bust terrorists. After all, it's non-violent "crime" which is committed by "criminals" who actually advertise their presence. (Was anyone other than me sruck by the irony of the Washington Post editorializing against the evils of prostitution going on in our fair community in the same edition that carried nearly thirty ads from AMPs?)
And, lastly, but perhaps most important, going after the AMPs is safe both physically (unlike all the photos of bin Laden with his ever present AK-47, the most dangerous thing an AMP girl is likely to have is a defective condom), and politically. You aren't going to see ANY politician come out and say that this is a rediculous misuse of scarce resources. These girls present no, none, zero threat to the nation, unlike tens of millions of illegals, some of whom are al quaida. Oh, and by the way, unlike O.J. they won't be able to hire the high priced lawyers to get them off.
One might ask exactly how many MS-13 gang bangers will have shot each other, or cut up each other, or innocent civilians, in drug deals gone bad, or turf wars, or just general rowdyness while all these Special Agents were focusing on the "threat" posed by AMPs. Or you might ask how come they can't find a way to stop all the illegals at the border when it seems pretty clear that virtually ALL of the accused in this case entered the country legally (after all, didn't they have immigration files available on all of them with their photos?) Or we might ask just how many of these accused have ever made a welfare claim in this country, or sought public assistance of any kind, or been involved in any VIOLENT CRIME against the public order?
Our best hope is that it will pass quickly and once election day passes things will get back to normal.
Randy
Let's face it, there is an election coming and politicians are looking for things that make them look good with the electorate.
Busting AMPS is a godsent to most politicians. First, the church going portion of the electorate sees this as a good thing. We're stopping the "evildoers" here. Secondly, the rabid feminists are utterly convinced that no woman would voluntairly sell their bodies for profit. The feminists strictly believe that this could ONLY happen through force and slavery. Thirdly, it's a hell of a lot easier to bust AMPs than it is to bust terrorists. After all, it's non-violent "crime" which is committed by "criminals" who actually advertise their presence. (Was anyone other than me sruck by the irony of the Washington Post editorializing against the evils of prostitution going on in our fair community in the same edition that carried nearly thirty ads from AMPs?)
And, lastly, but perhaps most important, going after the AMPs is safe both physically (unlike all the photos of bin Laden with his ever present AK-47, the most dangerous thing an AMP girl is likely to have is a defective condom), and politically. You aren't going to see ANY politician come out and say that this is a rediculous misuse of scarce resources. These girls present no, none, zero threat to the nation, unlike tens of millions of illegals, some of whom are al quaida. Oh, and by the way, unlike O.J. they won't be able to hire the high priced lawyers to get them off.
One might ask exactly how many MS-13 gang bangers will have shot each other, or cut up each other, or innocent civilians, in drug deals gone bad, or turf wars, or just general rowdyness while all these Special Agents were focusing on the "threat" posed by AMPs. Or you might ask how come they can't find a way to stop all the illegals at the border when it seems pretty clear that virtually ALL of the accused in this case entered the country legally (after all, didn't they have immigration files available on all of them with their photos?) Or we might ask just how many of these accused have ever made a welfare claim in this country, or sought public assistance of any kind, or been involved in any VIOLENT CRIME against the public order?
Our best hope is that it will pass quickly and once election day passes things will get back to normal.
RandyI got 10 bucks saying Fox 5 does not show that post on TV.
Zhuxi
Wow! This is getting more serious by the hour! So my practical question is this: what are the chances of a good AMP experience for the standard fee in two weeks when I am back in DC? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Anksel
Wow! This is getting more serious by the hour! So my practical question is this: what are the chances of a good AMP experience for the standard fee in two weeks when I am back in DC? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Anksel
In all honesty, there is most likely a 0% chance of obtaining what you desire...
Van
Randy Farang
08-24-06, 09:42
I'll bet I don't get quoted in many sermons this week, or cited by many politicians on their reelection campaigns either.
But the truth remains, there is a lot more in this about pandering to the right-wing, conservative Christians, than there is in "solving crime."
And the fact that you also appease the whaco feminists by portraying the whole system as "slavery" is just an added bonus.
Isn't it grand to live in a country where, in the midst of a "Global War on Terror" against enemies who are sworn to destroy the United States, and in the midst of an illegal immigration flood that threatens to swamp us and overwhelm both our legal and social services programs, the government still can decide that K-girls constitute a sufficient threat to our national security to devote unlimited resources to stamping out this pernicious threat?
Color me a sadder, but wiser man.
Randy
"Isn't it grand to live in a country where, in the midst of a "Global War on Terror" against enemies who are sworn to destroy the United States, and in the midst of an illegal immigration flood that threatens to swamp us and overwhelm both our legal and social services programs, the government still can decide that K-girls constitute a sufficient threat to our national security to devote unlimited resources to stamping out this pernicious threat?"
Color me a sadder, but wiser man.
Randy
Randy -
You are oh so right on the mark buddy!
MnV
I have learned that the Feds are offering permanent Green Cards to BOTH
the 71 freed slaves AND their families still in KOREA if they make sworn statements and are willing to testify against the arrested owner/managers and recruiters/transporters.
It all starts to fall into place perfectly.
I have learned that the Feds are offering permanent Green Cards to BOTH the 71 freed slaves AND their families still in KOREA if they make sworn statements and are willing to testify against the arrested owner/managers and recruiters/transporters.
It all starts to fall into place perfectly.Freed slaves? I mean, it is good the girls get there green cards and they're families can now come over, but come on. "Freed slaves".
Either way, heh, I am sure that even if it is as bad as they say, the ladies will find out the comparable wages, and be right back in the fray within a very, very, short amount of time. 8.00 an hour or 100.00 an hour; decisions, decisions indeed.
Zhuxi
I have learned that the Feds are offering permanent Green Cards to BOTH
the 71 freed slaves AND their families still in KOREA if they make sworn statements and are willing to testify against the arrested owner/managers and recruiters/transporters.
It all starts to fall into place perfectly.
York:
Actually, "Green Cards", or Permanent Resident Alien status as it is known, is a permanent status. So, if they are indeed granted Permanent Resident Alien status with "Green Cards", then they would have almost all of the rights, etc. of a full blown citizen.
However, non-permanent resident aliens have "work permits" which must be renewed every 2 or so years.
Another status they may be granted is some sort of visitor's or business visa which last anywhere from 2-10 years before they must be renewed.
Visit www.uscis.gov or www.visapro.com if you care more info on the differences.
Either way, it seems that the defense would have a field day with questions such as, "Were you offered anything of value in return for your testimony? Oh, legal status? Well, of course you would testify."
Coerced into testifying under fear of deportation, jail, or the attraction of legal status.
Seems they are scummier (if that's a word) than I thought.
Van
"Sex Trafficking of Foreign Women to United States Military Camp Towns in South Korea, by Dr Sallie Yea (Senior Research Fellow, International Development Program, RMIT University)
Foreign women, primarily Russians and Filipinos, have been sex trafficked into South Korea en masse since 1998. It is estimated that there are at least 5000 and and possibly as many as 15,000 victims trafficked into Korea each year. Once in South Korea the women are deployed in one of two major destinations: Korean prostitution districts and United States military camp towns.
The report provides a comprehensive exploration of Russian and Filipino women trafficked to US military camp towns through in-depth research carried out over an 18-months period with more than 80 women in 6 camp town areas in Korea.
It discusses issues of recruitment of women, migration, living conditions in South Korea, experiences within the clubs wher they are deployed, and issues of abuse, gendered violence and sexual, labour and financial exploitation. It also discusses some relatively neglected issues in much trafficking research including customer demand and what happens to women once the leave trafficking situations.
Finally the report critically discusses the United States and Korean government's respective responses to this problem and makes several recommendations for anti-trafficking efforts in future."
Seems to me that Korea had to import "Foreign women, primarily Russians and Filipinos" due to those leaving S. Korea and coming here. Pretty ironic.
Van
I wrote "freed slaves" cynically because it was written that way in most newspaper and US Justice Department reports. We all know that they
volunteered for these jobs due to the high money benefits, travel and chance
to marry an American and live here.
Regarding the Green Card info. Most of the 71 women had 10 year travel
visa obtained from US Consul office in Korea, which the Korean gang/mob
members paid bribe money to US officials in Korea to provide them. Ten year
travel visas are very difficult to normally obtain for young foreingers.
The Feds are offering 10 year Green Cards to the 71 and their Korean families if they provide information and are willing to testify against owners and transporters; there will likely be no or little testifying in court since most of the managers/owners and transporters will likely plead guilty to some sort of reduced sentences rather than face the maximum prison terms of 20 years plus tax evasion; 20-year plus prison terms are very likely under organized racketerring/trafficking if found guilty during trials; their own voices are recorded on tape. The sworn statements from the 71 will encourage plea bargaining by managers/transporters who will likely provide more names of people in the network as requirements for plea bargaining; in the end after jail time, they will all be deported unless they have valid US citizenship; even that could be tested if the original travel visas were obtained via bribery.
The Feds are bribing the 71 with Green Cards; some will take them, some will not; those not taking them and not willing to testify will be deported since it will then appear they are "not sex slaves", were engaged in prostitution of free will and of course the Feds do not want them to be present to testify in
behalf of the owners/transporters.
10 year Green Cards can lead to US citizenship in 2 to 3 years. These cards will allow them to leapfrog everyone on the Green Card lists today.
The South Koreans do not want American soldiers doing their women
in South Korea; thus, they are importing women for our soldiers.
There are hundreds of thousands of Korean prostitues in Korea.
Many South Korean men will not patronize K-women in Korea if they do
Americans. That is why so many of the Korean Red Light disctricts are open
to Koreans or Asians only.
In fact, how many Korean men have you seen at Amps in DC or NYC or Philly
in your past visits? Not many, why? They (Korean men) visit US K-amps that are exclusively for K-men. They are advertised in K-newspapers in Korean language and typically admit only Koreans.
Their private stock.
I wrote "freed slaves" cynically because it was written that way in most newspaper and US Justice Department reports. We all know that they
volunteered for these jobs due to the high money benefits, travel and chance
to marry an American and live here.
Regarding the Green Card info. Most of the 71 women had 10 year travel
visa obtained from US Consul office in Korea, which the Korean gang/mob
members paid bribe money to US officials in Korea to provide them. Ten year
travel visas are very difficult to normally obtain for young foreingers.
The Feds are offering 10 year Green Cards to the 71 and their Korean families if they provide information and are willing to testify against owners and transporters; there will likely be no or little testifying in court since most of the managers/owners and transporters will likely plead guilty to some sort of reduced sentences rather than face the maximum prison terms of 20 years plus tax evasion; 20-year plus prison terms are very likely under organized racketerring/trafficking if found guilty during trials; their own voices are recorded on tape. The sworn statements from the 71 will encourage plea bargaining by managers/transporters who will likely provide more names of people in the network as requirements for plea bargaining; in the end after jail time, they will all be deported unless they have valid US citizenship; even that could be tested if the original travel visas were obtained via bribery.
The Feds are bribing the 71 with Green Cards; some will take them, some will not; those not taking them and not willing to testify will be deported since it will then appear they are "not sex slaves", were engaged in prostitution of free will and of course the Feds do not want them to be present to testify in
behalf of the owners/transporters.
10 year Green Cards can lead to US citizenship in 2 to 3 years. These cards will allow them to leapfrog everyone on the Green Card lists today.York,
Good info.
I know it was cynically heh ;)
That was more against all the people in LE and their rhetoric.
Either way, good stuff. I learned more about green cards in the last 3 minutes then I did sitting in AMPs for years. Of course, the last thing I want to talk about in an AMP is green cards ;)
Zhuxi
Benchseats Rock
08-26-06, 17:01
This particular convergence of ideas - brilliant, evil, mongering genius.
muahhahahahhahahah
Benchseats Rock
They (Korean men) visit US K-amps that are exclusively for K-men. They are advertised in K-newspapers in Korean language and typically admit only Koreans.
Their private stock.
Actually, looking for space to start a new AMP. No shit. Time to get down to business. Suggestions, gentlemongers?
Robux
In fact, how many Korean men have you seen at Amps in DC or NYC or Philly
in your past visits? Not many, why? They (Korean men) visit US K-amps that are exclusively for K-men. They are advertised in K-newspapers in Korean language and typically admit only Koreans.
I lived in Honolulu for a few years, where obviously, there is a large Asian population. You'd a thought that Asian P4P girls would be all over the place. Ironically, the only Asian girls were in the spas. All of the other P4P girls were tall busty blondes imported from the west coast - - cause that's what the Asian guys wanted. Go figure.
All of the other P4P girls were tall busty blondes imported from the west coast - - cause that's what the Asian guys wanted. Go figure.Dr Monger is like the only monger I know that prefers a woman of his own race... Don't get me wrong, most of us will take a fine dish in any restraunt, but for some reason there is that extra element of excitement in a woman of another race, nationality, etc. The deal closer for most of us...
Makes total sense an Asian guy used to tiny, flat-chested, black-haired girls would lust after a tall light-skinned, buxom blonde. More I think about it, a party with blonde, asian, hispanic, black and eastern-block women might be something we need to work on... Maybe the providers at Robi's rub and fuck...
BSR - I am told the Nexus is a place you never want to leave... Kinda like roundtable... Looking forward to meeting you there...
The girls will be hot (as always), the booze will be flowing, and we'll do our best to keep LL from turning the party into an orgy! :)As noted by my esteemed brotha, I'll be the guy that will be actively attempting to turn the RT party into an orgy!
LoveLOS
Robi's rub and fuck
LoveLOSWell my rub and fuck will be Asian only, but it will still be fun ;) .
A few months, and another "business trip" or two.
I must admit though, I do like everything, but there is not much better then "exotic difference".
Zhuxi
Benchseats Rock
08-26-06, 19:29
Robi's rub and fuck...
BSR - I am told the Nexus is a place you never want to leave... Kinda like roundtable... Looking forward to meeting you there... As noted by my esteemed brotha, I'll be the guy that will be actively attempting to turn the RT party into an orgy!
LoveLOS
Now we have a name. Robux and I have a construction idea. Now we need a place to put it.
I left the last one with Big White passing out on the couch somewhere around 5 in the morning. I couldn't believe that everyone else had left, I was shocked. Shocked and apalled I say.
Let's face it, there is an election coming and politicians are looking for things that make them look good with the electorate.
Busting AMPS is a godsent to most politicians. First, the church going portion of the electorate sees this as a good thing. We're stopping the "evildoers" here. Secondly, the rabid feminists are utterly convinced that no woman would voluntairly sell their bodies for profit. The feminists strictly believe that this could ONLY happen through force and slavery. Thirdly, it's a hell of a lot easier to bust AMPs than it is to bust terrorists. After all, it's non-violent "crime" which is committed by "criminals" who actually advertise their presence. (Was anyone other than me sruck by the irony of the Washington Post editorializing against the evils of prostitution going on in our fair community in the same edition that carried nearly thirty ads from AMPs?)
And, lastly, but perhaps most important, going after the AMPs is safe both physically (unlike all the photos of bin Laden with his ever present AK-47, the most dangerous thing an AMP girl is likely to have is a defective condom), and politically. You aren't going to see ANY politician come out and say that this is a rediculous misuse of scarce resources. These girls present no, none, zero threat to the nation, unlike tens of millions of illegals, some of whom are al quaida. Oh, and by the way, unlike O.J. they won't be able to hire the high priced lawyers to get them off.
One might ask exactly how many MS-13 gang bangers will have shot each other, or cut up each other, or innocent civilians, in drug deals gone bad, or turf wars, or just general rowdyness while all these Special Agents were focusing on the "threat" posed by AMPs. Or you might ask how come they can't find a way to stop all the illegals at the border when it seems pretty clear that virtually ALL of the accused in this case entered the country legally (after all, didn't they have immigration files available on all of them with their photos?) Or we might ask just how many of these accused have ever made a welfare claim in this country, or sought public assistance of any kind, or been involved in any VIOLENT CRIME against the public order?
Our best hope is that it will pass quickly and once election day passes things will get back to normal.
Randy
Amen and right on to all that, brother!! We've had the same hypocrisy going on lately in RI. Don't discount yet another rather large and powerful group interested in harassing the AMPs and SWs: let's just call it "The Family". They control lots of escort agencies and strip clubs and benefit when the Feds and local LE lock-up the competition. And, hmmm: I wonder if they coordinate their efforts. Do you think that's possible in our righteous nation?
Is it just me or does everyone really miss our girls. I have a bad feeling are amp's are not coming back anytime soon. I think it is time we start working other avenues and posting intel and get over the amp situation. There are plenty of working girls out there, just do some research, get some regulars, and post some intel. Come on guys, let's put our heads together and get to work. Good luck, good night and safe hunting to all...
She called today Feds have ben in her face for the past 10 days. Seems all the girls who are back on the streets are rolling over on everybody. Owners, cab drivers, money movers and even JOHN'S thats right us. My girl said too be carful out there. Their is about 10-15 out of the hole east cost sting not talking in fear for their familys back home they are locked up in NM. As of this week. The girls better be carful what they say when the feds get done with them and they get their new green cards then comes the IRS just like they do the dope boys / mob the hole thing is about money, 25, 000. 00 a mo. Is alot to pay taxes on. What are the girls write offs KY, RUBBERS & G-STRING:) HUMMM. I think someone on capitol hill needs to push for laws like Las Vegas. I don't think this 18 mo. Sting plus the money spending still to come on courts evens out. Lets face it sex sells and SELLS BIG is it not easer / safer and cheaper just give STD test and tax them? Well you now you have my vote. Realy I'm just happy too now were my girl is at.
Happy Hunting
AJ
Ginger Man
08-27-06, 10:03
Take a look at the Ombudsman column in the Post today. I know the reason they kept selling the ads to the spas was the exhorbitant rate they cost. But it looks like the end of an era.
Is it just me or does everyone really miss our girls. I have a bad feeling are amp's are not coming back anytime soon. I think it is time we start working other avenues and posting intel and get over the amp situation. There are plenty of working girls out there, just do some research, get some regulars, and post some intel. Come on guys, let's put our heads together and get to work. Good luck, good night and safe hunting to all...
This situation just SUCKS (and not in a good way!)!
What can a short, fat, middle aged white guy do to unload the heavy burdens?? Wife?? Not likely, she shut down some time ago.
AARRGGHH!!!!
HELP!!
JJ
Johnny Rebel1
08-27-06, 13:07
I know ML in Baltimore got shut down, what of the DC AMPs? Any of them still running and have good service? Perfer a name and address if can. You can pm me if you like or post here.
Thanks,
Johnny
Its just disgusting to watch the Feds try to coerce the providers into testifying that they were slaves. Since they obviously were not wouldn't that be perjury and wouldn't the Feds be a party to it?
when was the last time you saw a slave with a $300 cell phone and a trip up to AC every month or two. Some of these girls are high roller in AC, they get free room, food, limo ride to there. I know for fact because I had ran into a few of them in AC before.
JeddiMindTrick
08-28-06, 04:12
when was the last time you saw a slave with a $300 cell phone and a trip up to AC every month or two. Some of these girls are high roller in AC, they get free room, food, limo ride to there. I know for fact because I had ran into a few of them in AC before.The fact of the matter is that though they do not fit into your preconceived notion of what a slave looks like, has in their possession or has room to do, these girls cannot come and go as they please. You can say that about almost everyone in the world. The thing to bring home to mamma is this: these women were trafficked. The US government and much of the rest of the world is waging a campaign on human trafficking. It really doesn't matter how much you deny the trafficking issue. It is real and the battle against it is on.
The Japanese wiped out the whisper alley scene in Koganecho, Yokohama about two years ago because of this campaign. No one, be it a randy nihonjin, randy gaijin or feisty yakuza saw that coming. If they can do it there there certainly can do it here.
I know ML in Baltimore got shut down, what of the DC AMPs? Any of them still running and have good service? Perfer a name and address if can. You can pm me if you like or post here.
Thanks,
Johnny
golgo13,
You see how ridiculous this is? This is a good example of why we flame noob posts.
The previous two pages are dedicated to this topic, and YET???!?!?
well, because of the recent activity or lack there of with the AMPs, I thought this would be a good time to make a third visit with in the past couple of months to make a final determination about H&H. When I show up, the only person available is soloman (previous bad experience). I said I would come back later, but she said it would be worth it, so i gave her another chance.
Back in the room, I paid the hour fee ($70), took a shower. Massage was decent and relaxing, and on the flip, I was given much more expanded menu than my previous visit. I left with a big smile on my face. Seniors, PM for details.
Hi everyone,
First time post. Wouldn't ya know it that I joined not long before Black Wednesday. In any case I will try to check out OK today. They may be back later today. Perhaps the fog is beginning to lift.
The fact of the matter is that though they do not fit into your preconceived notion of what a slave looks like, has in their possession or has room to do, these girls cannot come and go as they please. You can say that about almost everyone in the world. The thing to bring home to mamma is this: these women were trafficked. The US government and much of the rest of the world is waging a campaign on human trafficking. It really doesn't matter how much you deny the trafficking issue. It is real and the battle against it is on.
The Japanese wiped out the whisper alley scene in Koganecho, Yokohama about two years ago because of this campaign. No one, be it a randy nihonjin, randy gaijin or feisty yakuza saw that coming. If they can do it there there certainly can do it here.Well I for one would gladly accept to be "trafficked" off to Korea to bang horny (even ugly) Korean ladies for 100.00 USD an hour, w/ the occasional slave vacation breaks to expensive casino's. I suppose you are right, trafficking is trafficking, but let's not take the sugar coating off the the type of trafficking in the subject we are speaking of. I think the battle is misplaced, myself.
Zhuxi
Freshly Snipes
08-28-06, 15:51
golgo13,
You see how ridiculous this is? This is a good example of why we flame noob posts.
The previous two pages are dedicated to this topic, and YET?Ok. ok. ok! Get off my dick already with this shit. It's in the past! :rolleyes:
Well I for one would gladly accept to be "trafficked" off to Korea to bang horny (even ugly) Korean ladies for 100.00 USD an hour, w/ the occasional slave vacation breaks to expensive casino's.
Ahhhh yes, the lengths we go to get those famous Korean "Green Cards"...
Member #4338
08-28-06, 19:21
Ok. ok. ok! Get off my dick already with this shit. It's in the past! :rolleyes:
OK, boys, I think that G13 has got the point. Noobs who ask stupid dumbass questions on the DC board get flamed. Case closed.
Having nominated G13 as the Answer Man, I now officially UN-nominate him and move that we put the issue to rest.
Zhuxi: Sign me up for my Korean "green card" ;)
Lax
Zhuxi: Sign me up for my Korean "green card" ;)
LaxNo problem, :) I will let you know right after I get mine! Should not be too long now, I am number 8,632,953 on the waiting list.
Zhuxi
So, what is this forum all about ?
So, what is this forum all about ?"The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex."
Could not resist. ;)
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