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BigDaddy661
01-02-06, 13:07
I was in Rockford for the holidays and was disappointed to learn the AMPs are gone. But DAMN, the SW scene there is almost too good to be true. The price is right, and, if you're patient, there are some decent looking ho's to be had. I guess we can thank the local crack problem for that - provided you can catch them before it takes too big a toll on them. Great BJs both mid - late morning as well as late night/early morning. I'm going to have to visit more often.
Thanks to those of you who provided me with info on the Rockford scene - Happy mongering in 2006, and be careful out there!!
Mister Quick
01-03-06, 14:05
Part of this is a 2005 report and part a 2006, although I saw no place for the 2006 part so I am putting it all here.
Had a New Years Party (weekend event) to head to in Wisconsin so I decided to try my luck with the Rockford SW again. Figured I have had better luck there than the other two cities where I have gone looking more than once.
I found a number of a girl I had picked up several months ago when I was cleaning out the car. Name of Megan, I suspect she is the one I picked up who I had reported was upset al her dates had been looking for a friend of hers. Had forgotten her name when I redid the report. Gave her a call friday afternoon when I left work and just got voice mail. Tried several more times when I got to town and while driving to town but all I got was voice mail. No luck here. Girls need to answer the phone and check messages if they want their drug money.
Got to town about the time that it got dark. Saw a few girls out who looked so scary that I would not pick up if they were paying me. Wound up seeing a potential wandering a coupe of blocks north of Broadway near 7th st. Tall, young blonde girl with glasses. Saw her wandering around on several occasions and when ever I circled around to get her she was nowhere to be seen. Did eventually find her and she approached my car, asked her if she needed a ride. She said no and told me she thought I wanted to have some fun, I said perhaps and she asked me how much $$$ I was prepared to spend. Saw a rule somewhere stating that never a good idea about talking about $$ until a girl got in the car so I passed. Did see her out some more.
Eventually wound up picking up Kathy a 30-something WSW up around 6th ST & 8th Ave. She told me she was walking up to the pay phone since she did not have a phone and accepted my ride. She then told me she was in a horny mode and asked if I wanted to have some fun. She directed me to a no-tel that is south of Rt 20 on Rt 251, but not by much. Wound up spending about 2 hours with her and she seemed to enjoy it aas much as I did. She told me she was not usually out on the street since she had a regular job but cash was running short due to Christmas. She did mention she had a few regulars she saw which was better than having a boyfriend or husband (she was divorced). She actually was on her way to the phone and told me she would only be getting into cars of white guys who were around her age, whom she would have talked to if they hit on her at a bar. She said she did not like dirty old men or over sexed college boys. When we were done had me drive her back home and told me I could stop by if I were in town again, although she said she was living with a teenage daughter and to NEVER mention why I was wanting to see her mom if I did stop by. She also did not ask for any $$ until we were stopped in front of her house. Would do her again.
Way back through town on Monday. Tried calling Megan again before I left WI and instead of the voice mail got a verizon customer not available message. This happened several times so I gave up on her. Got to town and stopped by Kathy's daughter was home and said mom was at work and would not be home until after 8. This was around 3 PM so I was not planning on waiting. Did a cruise through the normal areas and saw only the girls that looked way too worn out to interest me, headed home so I could recover from the weekend and get to work this morning.
World Wise
01-04-06, 17:07
cadillacjack,
Ralph has made many positive contributions to this board, and many of us enjoy them. You are a "new kid on the block". With all due respect, remember that if you don't have anything good to say, please keep quiet.
Travel Time
01-04-06, 17:42
Mr Quick,
Nice work never discuss business on the street. RFPD conducts an occasional sting but I do not know if they use decoys or not. I did get followed in RF after a pick up once and then busted getting a BJ in the car. Ended up paying big in court. Not to mention that it is a less than fun experience getting cuffed and put in the back of the paddy wagon. It woked for the PD because I stay away from SWs after that.
I would like to find a Flame like bar to get some action at but it seems the local bars are pretty clean now.
Happy Hunting and be careful.
TT
Got to town about the time that it got dark. Saw a few girls out who looked so scary that I would not pick up if they were paying me. Wound up seeing a potential wandering a coupe of blocks north of Broadway near 7th st. Tall, young blonde girl with glasses. Saw her wandering around on several occasions and when ever I circled around to get her she was nowhere to be seen. Did eventually find her and she approached my car, asked her if she needed a ride. She said no and told me she thought I wanted to have some fun, I said perhaps and she asked me how much $$$ I was prepared to spend. Saw a rule somewhere stating that never a good idea about talking about $$ until a girl got in the car so I passed. Did see her out some more.
I asked a girl on the Rockford street one time how much she charged
and within 20 seconds I was surrounded by cops,cuffed and asked
questions. They undid the cuffs and let me go when I told them that
I NEVER intended to pay anything, I was just curious as to how much
these girls were willing to accept to belittle themselves.
This was SEVERAL years ago. I would NEVER pay for sexual activity but
if I really like the girl and she happens to be wearing worn out shoes, I may
contribute a little something to help her keep her feet warm :)
SeekPetite
01-05-06, 10:49
Thread Starter
SeekPetite
01-05-06, 10:53
Went into Rockford looking for a quickie.
Ended up meeting Misty on a side street off of 11th. Great BBBJTCCIM for a Jackson. She lives around 15th and 11th. I saw Dusty 'tweaking' at the house she live in (Next to the gas station on 11th and 15th. I said to Misty there's Dusty. Misty replied look at her, she must have been up for days the way she was tweaking / twitching. Sorry guys, no photos of Misty.
She is 29 yo, about 5'5 and 110#, small tits and petite...
World Wise
01-06-06, 11:35
Found SeekPetite's Misty (really Missy) last night inthe same area of Rockford.
Sh is as he discribed her. Looks about 20 from a distance but about 30 up close. Long dark hair, back in a tie back of some kind.
After agreeing on a contribution, went to her up stairs apt near 11th and 15th. Back entrance, covered stairway. Lives with a gay friend Jody, and a large guy, asleep on the couch.
She proceeded with the front half of the half-n-half, and then wanted more money. When I showed her that I had given her all that I brought, she pulled on her jeans, and ran to wake up her big friend. He came in the bedroom and confronted me about the "rest of her $200". Now, you must understand the scene.
I was standing there, dressing as fast as possible. He is filling the complete doorway of the room, demanding money that I do not have. Missy is behind him, egging him on. Now he has the kind of eyes that you're not really sure where he is looking. One eye looking northeast, and one eye looking northwest, if you know what I mean.
I try to show him that I gave the girl all the $$ I had and have an empty wallet. She is behind him, shouting check his socks, etc.
By this time, I'm mostly dressed, and edging toward the door. While they're agrueing, I bolt down the stairs. The big guy is yelling at me about 'their' money.
Anyway, I got half of a half-n-half, and a good run for my $$.
My advise is to avoid Missy, if you see her. Trouble is NOT what we're looking for out there.
Thencame Brnsn
01-06-06, 12:03
See,
You are keeping up with two of your resolutions at same time, enjoy your time with the ladies, and get in some valuable physical fitness training!! Money well spent.
Seriously, Had somewhat same experience. I was in Long Beach years back and met a lady (Sue) who was not pay for play at a local pubbery. A few days later, after pre-planning another get together at same watering hole, we meet again. She asked if I ever saw her vehicle and I said no. She took me to her '40s era vintage Ford Truck. We talked for a while, sipped a few brewskis, she "lit one up" and asked me to partake. Being I was a Sailor back then, I of course said no, we had tests for that which you didn't want to pass. Well once she commenced to performing an awesome BBBJ, I said, what the hey and gave it a try. Anyway, a few days later she invites me to her apartment. With her is a lady about 5'7", 160, not huge, but rough looking. Sue goes to the john after getting me a beer, her friend says "You like Sue?" I said, sure, she's a good lady. Friend says "well she's mine," and grabs a 6" verrry sharp looking knife from a drawer and asks if "I like those two things hanging down there." I of course said, yes, I was pretty fond of them. She states that If I wanted to keep them by end of night, I should finish my beer, say bye bye to Sue, and sort of in terms used in Pulp Fiction, says words to the effect of "you get gone, and you stay gone." I said, roger, wilco, over, out, understood, etc. Sue came back from wizzin', I said I wasn't feeling good, and that the beer, albeit free, didn't really taste good, and headed out the door. Last time I ever saw those two crazy ladies. And yes, I still have my two walnuts attached to my little peapod.
BTW, I used to be a regular at Golden Touch years back. Started going there in I believe 79 or 80,, when they were open in the daytime as well. Back then, the watering hole behind it was well, for all, if you know what I mean. I was in mid 20's in age. There was a 40ish lady with long brunette hair that worked the daytime. She used to give awesome sesssions. Wish I remembered her name. I would nominate her for the Rockford/Belvedere non-FS Wing, Provider Hall of Fame.
SeekPetite
01-08-06, 12:58
Friday afternoon I took a spin through Rockford. Found Missy / Missy (I have a hearing problem... Anyhow gave her $20 up front, she needed to run into a house to re-pay some dude (Pick up drugs) and needless to say I never saw her again. I felt as if I could trust her, oh well.
I then spotted Lisa, a very skinny brunette, about 5'7" and 33 years old. Took her to a local ho-tel and got two great BBBJTCCIM for one Grant.
Lisa had great eyes and was not whacked out on crack. It was a good afternoon.
Dont have any kids or at least any that I know about, so Amish Maid whoever he is is not my son. Tammy and the girl whose name I forget are not the same girl, did not even find them from the same city. Not sure what I have been busted at. Most people seem to like the pics I have been posted since they have ben looked at a lot. Found a couple more throw away cameras that may or may not have pics of girls I found on them.
Ralph you freakin moron! I told you before, the reason guys frequently look at the photos you post is because they’re on the gallery page. Now don’t try to embarrass us into posting pictures following your premise.
You posted a picture of Tammy in the Quad Cities and a picture of Z1 in Rockford. It’s the same freakin chick. Are you Amish Maid’s daddy? He got busted and so have you!
Just got back from trip down south and not online for a week and 1/2, classes started today. Had a very interesting experiene with Angel up in Rockford area before we took off whihc may type up and post when I have more time. Just noticed this that I figured had to reply to. Seem to be getting lots of PMs here.
World Wise
01-10-06, 13:21
After looking over the selection on the strolls last evening, I finally selected Tara, a fading blond who tells me she is from McHenry, and only been in Rockford two years. For $35 we have a long session at her room in the local notel. About 30, shaved, willing to please. Kind of 'worn out' but confortable and safe.
Heard that Brittney and Shea were beaten up, robed, and cut up last Sat out by the IGA on Sandy Hollow Road. Two guys in a black camero. One girl had 18 stiches and a concussion, and the other had 30 stitches in her face, and lost several teeth. Lots of assholes out there. Be careful.
TheShadow2
01-10-06, 14:36
Dude. See your eye doctor immediately. It ain't the same girl. Not even debatable...
Ralph you freakin moron! I told you before, the reason guys frequently look at the photos you post is because they’re on the gallery page. Now don’t try to embarrass us into posting pictures following your premise.
You posted a picture of Tammy in the Quad Cities and a picture of Z1 in Rockford. It’s the same freakin chick. Are you Amish Maid’s daddy? He got busted and so have you!
Shadow. You'd better look again,my friend. If that's not the same girl in different clothes, I'll eat her puss at high noon on 11th st.
DJ
TheShadow2
01-10-06, 18:48
Better start licking your lips. I'll put up 10,000 dollars to your 500 if you'd care to bet. I'm stunned that more than one person would think that was the same girl. Look at the smile lines, the teeth, how far apart the eyes are, etc. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Both skinny white gals with dark hair, but that's the end of the resemblance. Wish we could do a poll on this forum. Which one you gonna eat?
Corndog #2
01-10-06, 20:47
But personally, I'd eat Z1 first. Tammy is a little, shall we say....rough.
Better start licking your lips. I'll put up 10,000 dollars to your 500 if you'd care to bet. I'm stunned that more than one person would think that was the same girl. Look at the smile lines, the teeth, how far apart the eyes are, etc. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Both skinny white gals with dark hair, but that's the end of the resemblance. Wish we could do a poll on this forum. Which one you gonna eat?
I took the pics and they are different girls. Encountered them in different states. Tammy actaully did look better in person than she did in the photo. I saw her twice and she wanted to see me again to do a 3some with her boyfriend (whom I understood was AC/DC) Not wanting to join the gay boy butt banging brigade I passed.
But personally, I'd eat Z1 first. Tammy is a little, shall we say....rough.
DJ, got to agree with Shadow2 (and Ralph..), different lady.
Now, when was that public display of affection?
Ci-Traveler
01-11-06, 09:53
Wish we could do a poll on this forum. Which one you gonna eat?
As much as it would be cool to have them be the same chick and have these stupid pictures from many years ago stop (they're not really contributing to anything), they are most certainly different girls. At first they looked the same - but when you put them side by side - it's obvious they are not the same person.
As to which one to parttake?
I wouldn't touch either of them - let alone put something inside them. Yuck. Some people will screw just about anything.
ci-traveler
These girls are Definately NOT the same. Z1 looks like she's from
India. Tammy would look much better with a make-over. I think
that they BOTH could be Super Models <<< Depending on the
number of Beers you've had :)
Mister Quick
01-11-06, 12:14
For some reason it now says I am a senior member, guess that means I am getting old- do the girls give a senior discount?
Went back to look at both pictures, since I had originally seen them when I read the forums they are. Not sure why someone would think they are the same girl, maybe from a distance at night if they were wearing the same clothes. The report from z1 says she was from the Phillipines.
These girls are Definately NOT the same. Z1 looks like she's from
India. Tammy would look much better with a make-over. I think
that they BOTH could be Super Models <<< Depending on the
number of Beers you've had :)
Just enjoy the pictures, I know it is hard to get a girl you pick up to let you take pictures. I took pictures of two of them I met, posted one and wound up leaving my camera in the hotel where I had taken pictures of the second. Not yet invested in another one since I can't decide on getting a digital one or a 35mm film one that I can usse my old lens with. Any advice?
George W. Bush
01-11-06, 23:39
<<< Depending on the
number of Beers you've had :)
Here's a game you might enjoy if you're a beer man. http://www.webn.com/cc-common/rateapic/How_many_beers.html
Corndog #2
01-12-06, 21:20
I consistantly need about 8.
Here's a game you might enjoy if you're a beer man. http://www.webn.com/cc-common/rateapic/How_many_beers.html
I cruised through Rockford last week and LE seemed to be pretty intense, parking on side streets. Note that on a side street you see anyone driving up and down the street plus across the streets, plus any girl walking around working.
Ony action I saw was over West on Kishwaukee, some very active girl waving at cars, big coat on...kinda screamed decoy to me but I saw no LE parked nearby.
HHH
Interesting how seems all anyone has to talk about is wether or not a couple pics I posted are of the same girl. Guess not much of interest has happened here. I did post a few more pics in Des Moines and Columbia, MO.
Need to make this a quick one, need to get into town to pick up Angel at 8:30. Out of the couple camerass I found one had a bunch of pics of Rockford girls. Since had already posted the one I had of Jenny / Dusty figured post a bunch more from week in spent with her about a year and a half ago gve or take, things get fuzzy at this point. I think she got a couple of tatoos between this encounter and the last time I saw her. Seems a couple of other guys have seen her since and she has worn herself out. Too bad I rather liked her. Wonder how long it takes for a girl who is against drugs (she told me sh hated drugs and smoking, whihc gave her 2 pluses in my books) to become an addict once she gets on the street?
Other camera was from trip to Canada and a girl I picked up there. But Canada no longer has a place on here. Checked the spin off site and learned you have to pay to look at the pics on there even if you were a senior member on the board before the split so looks like they will not be uploaded anywhere.
Hi, I just moved to DeKalb, IL, about 45 minutes from Rockford, between Aurora. I apologize if my question is in the wrong forum, or innapropriate. I'm interested if anyone has any information on the DeKalb area? Spots, locales, where should I be looking?
Thanx,
Happy Friday!
I am a long time senior member and I was able to register for the international site for no charge, and then I was able to view photos.
Just did this a couple of days ago.
Corndog #2
01-15-06, 22:58
Ralph-
I'm starting to like this game...guess if the photos are of the same girl or not....As for your latest post....I'm guessing it's the same girl. Keep the game going, my friend..And for the record, I'm jealous!
I just came back from Sun Spa in Sycamore.When i got there I was told to come back in a hour because they had no one available.One hour passed and I came back.Mamason said I was early(only by 15 minutes ). She asked if I wanted to wait and I did.Then she came back and said there was only one girl and she had another appointment.She asked if I wanted her for a massage or wait another hour. I ended up taking her since I drove down from Rockford. The massage was good and had the standard finish.I will go back again to see what girls or girl is avaiable.
Decided to enlarge the face shots and put them in the same file so all can plainly see that the pictures in question are not of the same girl. I only have one pic each of both these young women so cant post others.
Spramanator
01-17-06, 03:51
Hey guys! long time no see. just got back into the area again and hopefully can start posting again. Any info on the rusty nail? Do they still have those shows on thurs and sat? If so...how are they?
Sprammy
Think with head one so head 2 can have some fun!
Decided to enlarge the face shots and put them in the same file so all can plainly see that the pictures in question are not of the same girl. I only have one pic each of both these young women so cant post others.
Yes, I'm 99 percent positive that they're not the same girl, but in order
for me to be 100 percent positive, I would have to get them both in the
same bed at the same time :)
World Wise
01-17-06, 11:28
No doubt those are two different girls.
As for the Rusty Nail, yes, it is still Thurs and Sat starting at 9PM. Now a $2 cover, but many dancers to view. Anybody have any success with take-out?
I tend to hit Rock during the day, probably as much because I like a better view of the girls, and the ability to see LE at a distance, but is it worth going there at night?
If so how late? Do they clear out at midnight or come out at midnight?
HHH
World Wise
01-18-06, 11:05
HHH
I generally reach Rock-ville about 5-6 PM on a week night and am there until 10 or so. I have little problem finding canidates. Occassionally an absence of 'fresh meat', but no absence of prospects.
Turkey John
01-18-06, 18:32
I have been there late where there is not much action then at 2:00 a.m. when the bars are closing it's like mardi gras.
Chief_Wiggum
01-19-06, 18:23
My experience has been weekends b/c I don't have time to go out during the week, but I'll also report that night goings, especially when warmer, is good when bars let out. However, it is _really_ tough to see what you're getting. I also have the sneaky suspicion that once you're made as one that will take off, it gets around. Bad karma and all that...
World Wise
01-19-06, 18:31
Had a slow evening turn out good last night in Rockford. Arrived in town about 5PM and took care of some business, then checked out the strolls. Not much happening, so I had dinner and cruised again. Several possibles, but none very appealing. Was about to hit the highway for Chicago when I found an old friend Brittney, who had had some tuff times lately. She was near the Sunny Pantry at 6th and 6th, I think.
In Rockford for a couple of years, from North Carolina originally. Spend two hours at the notel, multiple pops, and a pleasant experience for two Jacksons. Will look for her again. No cell, but working on it.
Need to clear some room off hard drive and have too many pics on it so am starting to post them- although would be nice to post a few others.
This is Jody / Carrie, mentioned here a couple times late last year. Carrie wqas her name at the LS. Little older than I like them but was a nice girl. She was at the Linngerie shop working to get a nursing degre. When the rules changed she no longer made money and hit the streets. Actaully went to her place once and saw her text books. she wound up failing one of her classes and roping out of school. Last time I saw her she had taken up the crck diet droped at least 40 pounds and was hanging out with Shannon (also mentioned here a fair bit) did not recognise her when I saw her.
Karina was another Lingerie Shop girl that hit the streets after the rule change and the one she worked at shut down. Was not real happy that as a SW she was expected to charge far less than she had before altough she did like the fact that she had some choice in the guys she went with, unlike at the LS she had to go with any guy who picked her. Took her to the notel on the southside of town, agrreed to let me take a bunch of pics but told me to stop after I got this one. Bit better looking than most Rockford SWs. She told me she might not be doing the SW thing much longer since one of her regulars from the LS had spotted her o the street and offered to make her his live in girlfriend an offer she said she was seriously considering. She gave me a phone number which of course did not work next time I was in town, never saw her on the street again so am guessing she may have taken the guy up on his offer. So I guess I am not the only one who has ever wound up trying that. Wondering if that regualrly happens to the cute ones since they seem to only be out and about for a short peroid of time, while ugly ones seem to bea round for years.
Met Kira once. Think even did a report on her, check some of my old ones. Only saw her once and dont recall a whole lot about her.
Met Melissa the night I had my first very weird encounter with Angel. She was on 11th St across from Pump Handle. Told me she is a 33 year old part timer (sam age as me!) needing help to pay bills. She is from Belvidere and works as a stylist at one of the beauty sloons there. Her hair was all nicely done up and had lots of hairspray in it. Went to notel where she ould not let me take any pics but did allow one in the van. Picture does not do her justice. Told me the name of the saloon she works and told me I could stop by there or call to arranage a date for the evening (but asked not to mention why I wanted her if she was not working) but I have since forgotten the name of it.
Last one for the night have to move sat dish and go off line in a few minutes.
Saw Ursula twice last year. Good performance, looks, personality, she did not smoke plus she only wanted $20 for the whole night (plus a place to stay)- had a phone number for her but it turned out to be of some friends she stayed with from time to time. Arranged a meeting with her through them for our second time together- whihc is when she spent whole night with me. Next time tried thye had not seen her in a few weeks and time after that their number was no good. She did have really bad teeeth that she told me had been caused by low calcium although I suspect drugs may be part of her life since whe we left the hotel in the morning she found a crack pipe that someone had left behind and decided to take it with. (This was at one of the lower priced hotels on the west end of town that charges $40 a night but does not do hourly. She hates Rockford and had I seen her again I might have offered to take her with on one of my frequent trips around the iddwest, although after learning about her druggie status I dont think I would have. Asked me not to post any of the nude pics I took of her online so these are all you get to see.
I checked out the strolls around 1:30 pm today. Not much out other than LE. Finally after about 3 or so, the LE seemed to disapear. I saw some pretty scary SWs out there and I also saw two that I saw on my last trip to the Rock. One was about 5'2'' to 5'5'' or so. She had shorter redish hair and looked to be between 18-20 years old. The other was wearing a black Nike jacket had pretty long dark hair. She was probably a little taller and relatively skinny. I wanted to pick up the darker haired girl but I was running late to work. Anyone have any info on either of these ladies? Both times I saw these girls it was a block or two south of Broadway around 7th st.
I wanna thank those of you who post pics. I've been a long time wannabe monger, but never had the guts to take the risk without being so drunk I risk a DUI. lately I've been getting braver and may just finally join your ranks, and seeing pics of the safe ones make me feel better. A contact infor for Ursula would be gravy, otherwise, keep up the good fight.
Deadpoet, with only one post you are very unlikely to have someone give you digits on a girl. If you're drawn to the flame as we all are, what you need to do is go through the postings on several cities and read, read, read.
There is lots of advice out there on what to do and what not to do to get a safe start. Oh, BTW, being drunk isn't a good thing.
Meticulous driving, signaling, no u-turns, absolutely no conversation unless the girl is in the car and you are driving, and you've done a mutual "cop-check", never let her out of the car before service is rendered (unless your idea of FS is her skipping with your $20), etc.
HHH
She told me she might not be doing the SW thing much longer since one of her regulars from the LS had spotted her o the street and offered to make her his live in girlfriend an offer she said she was seriously considering. She gave me a phone number which of course did not work next time I was in town, never saw her on the street again so am guessing she may have taken the guy up on his offer. So I guess I am not the only one who has ever wound up trying that. Wondering if that regualrly happens to the cute ones since they seem to only be out and about for a short peroid of time, while ugly ones seem to bea round for years.
Sorry to intrude on your board but I saw the picture and checked out the report. I've only heard of the "ho to housewife" transition working if you are both from the same class. If she is a white-trash crack ho and you are a white trash drunk then you might be happy together in your trailer. Although you might make a guest appearence on an episode of cops. If you were raised middle class and want a normal life than it won't last long. In my area of Ohio the cute ones end up living with their drug dealer until he gets tired of them. By then they arn't cute anymore because he has beaten them a few times and the drugs take their toll on her face and body as well. In six months when he kicks her out for the last time you wouldn't recognise her anyway. She has gone from "shaply but thin" to "crack ho skinny". Her well cared for hair is now dirty and hasn't been cut since she hit the streets. She seems to have constant bruises and is missing a tooth from when the dealer/boyfriend threw a bottle at her.
In my expierence 95% of these girls are out there supporting a drinking/drug habit. The other 5% are from a class/background where walking the streets is no big deal. Forget the Lifetime movie where the middle class girl has to hook to make ends meet. Your post sounded like you might consider trying to "save" on of these girls. Don't do it! I have dated a few strippers and even lived with one for a while and that life style is crazy enough.
I wholeheartedly agree, as a long time reader, I have wanted to chime in for a long time. There was a guy a while back who actually picked up a SW and took her in, later on saying that he met her parents, she moved in, and they were making a go of a domestic relationship. It also went on to say that this "hired-gun dating" was a "rent B4 purchasing" thing. WTF?!? I look at it as payment to get the fu?k away from me. If I wanted a relationship, I sure would not want one with someone from the street. I want nothing to do with the drugs, the emotional scars, the diseases, the 1000's of ex boyfriends and the drama that goes along with it. If you end up on the streets, you are seriously f'ed up, and need SERIOUS long term big $ psych help.
It is a relationship where I need to get something taken care of, and I employ someone to take care of it. Nothing more. I believe that there are a FEW isolated circumstances where the girl is hard on their luck, and eventually will get out, but that is honestly about 1 in 1000. That being said, the most of us will never even meet one that will not end up in a box long before their time.
Rule #1
dont say a f'n word until she is in the car and you are at least 1 block away.
Rule #2
wear protection you bought-yes a BBBJ can give you VD, and that out of date BS they got at the clinic is going to break-you are a comdom thickness away from bringing your current/future wife/girlfriend a lot of s?it the worst of which is HEP C or HIV-both can be spread by bleeding gums and teeth scraping, and you will eventually die from both of them.
Rule #3
dont make it more than it is-you are here because it is uncomplicated, not because you cant do better.
Rule # 4
bring only the cash you are willing to throw out the window.
Rule #5
drive around the block b4 dropping them off, LE can ruin your day if they even see you dropping them off-I had a cop say "I may not really have more than the testimonty of a convicted prostitute/confessed crack addict-you may be innocent, and you may walk out of court without a record of this night, but you will never un-print your name from the newspaper".
Cop rule:
It is not what they know, it is what they can prove. Keep your mouth shut-dont be a D?ck to the pig, be respectful, but dont give him evidence he does not have already.
Be cool, Be safe, this is my $.02 and you are NOT going to change my mind so dont flood my sh?t with hate.
Went there a few times last week. Not bad for a nice h/j and some fingering for a reasonable $.
College Monger
01-23-06, 12:52
Longtime lurker never joined up since did not want real email address used,
someone suggested that is why they have hotmail. I always thought it was to send spam. I'm a college guy who never had much luck with girls in high school and after finally getting a girlfriend in college was not real good at
performance (I lasted 3 seconds in bed first time with her and she was not amused and dumped me- she did not know it was my first time) figured it best to get some experience with women not concerned about such things- in fact they may like it. Have found several in Rockford since last fall. I'm reporting on them here. Grew up in a small town about 15 miles from Rockford so I had read reports in paper where SW could be found from the arrest articles- great advertising for the girls. Found this site late last year.
Andrea- first one I found, gave me another name (I forget it) at first but when a cop started following us told me her real name was Andrea. She was on 7th St near Broadway. Petite, really cute long reddish brown hair. Told me she had just gotten out of jail and was now drug free, but had no job. Went to a hotel out by the tollway, got a room and spent the afternoon with her. Lasted longer and wound up doing her twice real fun girl but don't think jail had done her much good, in terms of reforming. She has no job prospects, was back to doing and acted like she really wanted to get back into drugs again.
When I said had not done this before, she did give me a few hints. Don't cruise in my high priced sports car, rich white boys have no business in the area and it attracts unwanted attention. Only carry cash you want to loose since some girls will rip you off, I had about $500 in my wallet when I found her.
Looked for her again but have not seen her, would like to again. Figure will
remember her for sometime since she ws my first good sexual experience.
Looks: 10
Attitude: 9
Performance: 9
Hygiene: 10
Age: 20
drugs: not yet
smokes: yes
phone: no
Do again: yes
After Andrea decided to get an apartment in town since folks want me to come down from school on days w/o classes to work at family business. Told them it would help to have a place closer to "work" to stay, since school is an 90 minute drive from Rockford in opposite direction of parent's home, and a more economical car. Got both, but did not have apartment set up by time picked up next girl.
Next girl was about a month later, said her name was Shelley, short blonde,
couple of piercings sort of goth look. I think this may have been a fake name
since she looked a lot like a girl my big brother hung out with in high school,
and Shelley was not her name. I had a crush on her but she probably does not even remember me, (if it was her) since this was about 9 years ago. She was rather skittish and wound up getting a bj in car from her. She said she was not a real street walker and only doing this while between jobs.
I figured might get on her good side, got her phone number and gave it to
personal director at family firm and told him that this girl might want a job.
We need temporary help from October to December. Discovered he was unable toreach her, just got her voice mail. Policy is to not leave messages about jobs, since people sometimes give contact numbers at a current employer or where someone else you don't want to know you are job searching could discover message.
I tried her number a few times and got voice mail several times. Once talked to a girl who said Shelley was not around and later voice mail saying the phone was lost, it no longer works.
Looks: 8
Attitude: 7
Performance: 8 (first solo bj for me)
Hygiene: 10
Age: mid 20's
drugs: think so
smokes: no
phone: not anymore
Do again: yes
Megan- Think she would have been a really good looker, before drugs got a hold of her. Picked her up once, might be the same Megan mentioned before. Her attitude changed from nice a sweet girl to real bi..., then back again several times during our encounter. Her leg was all bandaged up from some sort of animal attack. She told me she was on pain killers, but I suspect she may have been on other things also.
Looks: 6
Attitude: varies 1-10
Performance: 7
Hygiene: 8
Age: late 20's
drugs: yes
smokes: yes
phone: yes, but it was never answered and no longer works
Do again: maybe
Candy- Think she has been mentioned before, she looks a lot like Ursula who
Ralph met. Plus think Candy is not a real name. No teeth at all but nice girl. Saw her twice.
Looks: 8
Attitude:10
Performance: 8
Hygiene: 9
Age: mid 20s
drugs: think so
smokes: no
phone: had her parents they gave me 5th degree when I called and asked for
Candy
Do again: yes
Sandra- This one turns out to not have been a regular working girl, but rather a college student who had come to town for a funeral and had most of her stuff stolen at the funeral. Said she was not the kind of girl who had sex for money but took care of guys who treated her right. Wound up buying her some new stuff and letting her stay with me for a couple days (I have nothing of any real value in my Rockford apartment) before taking her down to Ohare for trip back home.
Kept in contact with her via email for a couple of weeks and learned she has a regular sugar daddy who is married and as old as her dad who is taking care of her. I had suggested maybe taking a trip somewhere nice and warm during semester break. But she said her sugar daddy would not approve.
Looks: 7
Attitude: 10
Performance: 10
Hygiene: 10
Age: 19
drugs: no
smokes: no
phone: no - got email
Do again: nope lives on west coast
Theresa- Cute and lots younger than me, said she was 18. Had the hardest time ever trying to talk her into coming to my place. And once she got there she was very rushed, was worried that her pimp / boyfriend / manager might think she was abducted or something, if she was not dropped off within 20 minutes of being picked up - the guy kept track of licence plates, but mine was still a temporary.
Looks: 9
Attitude:3
Performance: 8
Hygiene: 10
Age: 18
drugs: no
smokes: yes
phone: no
Do again: maybe
Christina- petite girl told me she was turning 24 at the end of January. She
had dirty blonde hair and was all bundled up so one could not get an idea of what she looked like when I found her. It was not that cold out when I found her. Not much of a talker and wanted to keep as many of her clothes on as possible when we did anything.
Looks: 6
Attitude: 5
Performance: 3
Hygiene: 6
Age: 24
drugs: not sure
smokes: yes
phone: no
Do again: no
Jamie- Blonde girl about my age. Said she needed money for a room to stay the night. She wound up giving me good vibes so I told her she could stay me for the night. She seemed fine with that, told me she usually hangs out around Pump Handle hotel on Rt 251.
Looks: 8
Attitude: 10
Performance: 8
Hygiene: 8
Age: 22
drugs: not sure
smokes: yes
phone: no
Do again: yes
Shannon- redhead, think she is one who has been talked about before. oldest girl I have ever been with she must be in her mid 30's, which was too weird for me. Nice and sweet but definitely a hard core drug user. Sort of a wasted life.
Looks: 7
Attitude: 10
Performance: 8
Hygiene: 8
Age: 30 something
drugs: yes
smokes: yes
phone: no
Do again: no
Jenny- found Jenny recently, about a week ago last girl I have found. Jenny
told me she had worked as a high priced escort in Chicago. So she expected more $$ than other girls on the street. Had fun back with her at my place. She is fairly tall, thin and has small tits. She also said she is hoping to go back to school and get a regular job.
Looks: 7
Attitude: 9
Performance: 8
Hygiene: 10
Age: 20
drugs: no
smokes: yes
phone: yes- lost #
Do again: yes
I love some of these lies.... :)
-Told me she had worked as a high priced escort in Chicago.
-had most of her stuff stolen at the funeral.
-her leg was all badaged up from some sort of animal attack
Mister Quick
01-24-06, 10:55
Candy- Think she has been mentioned and looks a lot like Ursula who Ralph met. No teeth at all but nice girl. Saw her twice.
Looks: 8
Attitude:10
Performance: 8
Hygene: 9
Age: mid 20s
drugs: think so
smokes: no
phone: had her parents they agve me 5th degree when I called
Do again: yes
Looking at the pics I am about 99.99% certainUrsula and Candy are the same girl, if not they are sisters. I seem to recall there was an Ursula listed in the arrest report from the big sting last year and that last time I saw Candy she had said she had been busted- but there was no Candy listed.
World Wise
01-24-06, 11:41
Made a new friend last night in Beautiful Rockford! Met Cindy back in the neighberhoods south of Broadway and west of 9th street. Walking along, almost hitchhiking. Dark blond, said she was 21, about 5'5" maybe 120. Some ink, and a pierced brow and lip. Said she was from Monroe Center, and just down on her luck. Claimed it was her first night.
Spent 2 hours at the local notel for $50 plus the room. Multiple pops (not bad for a guy of my advanced years!) and a delightful evening.
Chief_Wiggum
01-24-06, 18:04
Finally, a picture that Ralph puts up that I recognize. Man, Ralph, you are a monster monger. Anyway, it's Ursula that I've met before, and has hands down, given me the best service on the street. She ranks high up there with the old LS greats at Exclusive (I believe), the one girl that used to post here with the giant breasts and her friend Dawn (man, my memory is bad today). I've noticed that the former LS workers are the hottest, easily. Anyway, I was a bit saddened by this girls story (Ursula). Monster drug user, but great service and personality. I told her that she has to charge more. I fear for her safety, too, because she's so passive. In bed, it's another story. She likes to come easy, which I enjoy (she could be faking, what te hell do I know?) She also BBJTCNQNS, another rarity (for an escort and even moreso for the street). She is type of girl that I enjoy, but I think is a rare find on the streets of RFD. Also, that picture doesn't do her justice. She used to look a lot nicer before drugs did that to her.
The only thing I don't like is her teeth. Holy cow, that has to be from drug use. I also suspect she's so thin because she's too high to eat, then too poor to eat when she's not high. I tried to get her to stay the night, but she wouldn't because she wanted to go to her dealer. She sticks around RFD b/c her bf is in jail (possession, intent to distribute, multiple offender, etc.) I thought about taking to her dealer because she says that she might even consider doing anal (when high). However, I decided against it, b/c I'm not a big believer in rec drug use. When it warms up, maybe I'll take a ride down to RFD.
TheShadow2
01-24-06, 20:27
Thanks for taking the time to write such a lengthy report. You are new to this game but it sounds like you've got balls to say the least. Try to read the reports of your fellow mongers here, they can help you immensely.
One word of advice. You may want to imagine hypothetical worst case scenarios when deciding what course of action to take. For example, what worst case scenarios could have occurred when you gave the personal director at the family firm the phone number of a prostitute?
PR Director: "Hello, my name is____ from ___. I was given your number by ___. He said you might be interested in a temporary job?"
Ho: "Who gave you my number?"
PR Director: "(insert your good name here)"
Ho: Well, I don't know anybody named ________. He may be one of my johns but I have so many I can't remember names. And I make pretty good money on my back, so I don't think I'd be interested."
Be careful out there!
Turkey John
01-25-06, 12:38
BBJTCNQNS I don't know this term. What does it mean ?
TJ, I think it means hand job to completion no squirt nose snot. Or something like that. These college biys have a whole new lingo.
DJ
well here is the somewhat weird report about new years eve promised a bit back. this is one of those angel stories that some may like so if you don't ignore it. do have just shy of 40 photos of rockford girls scanned into the computer that i have not posted, this will about wipe out the old vault. will hold off posting them until someone posts some. have a few more from some other cities, but have had more luck in rockord than anywhere else.
wound up coming to rockford for xmas with angel and after a couple of days did the head back home thing. she wanted to hang out with her friends from high school and i wanted to go home to see a friend of mine who was back in town to see his parents. came back up to rockford for a new years eve party with angel and a bunch of her friends which was taking place in a small town not too far from rockford (which for reasons you will soon discover i am not naming). i had the battery die on my car and neither liking the push start routine nor having time to get it fixed before leaving for the party, we wound up going in angel's mother's car.
angel decided to wear one of the sleazier outfits that she owns, halter top with very short skirt (although not her shortest- but she forgot to wear anything underneath). both the guys she had dated in high school were supposed to be at the party and she wanted to let them see what they had passed off, pus show me off to them. she still feels that she is lucky to have found me, when i am about 100% certain it is much easier to find a guy in his 30s who wants to date a college aged girl than it is to find college girls who want to date guys in their 30's.
discovered the party was at a home with no real responsible adults around. i think i was one of only 4 or 5 people who were over 21. i know most of you will find this really hard to believe but there are young people under the age of 21 who will partake in the consumption of alcohol, contrary to laws against it. this is a law that was ignored by almost all present (those who actually drove to the party expressed good judgment and did not). angel wound up getting a fair bit wasted.
when it came time to leave she had parked several blocks away and she had not taken her coat into the party since it was relatively warm for middle of winter. i went to get he car since i had 1 drink all night and drove around to pick her up and headed out of town. she was an a very horny mode- we had not had sex since before xmas. her brother still gets to sleep on the couch when i come over and i get his room, although in quite logical protest he told dad that i would not be doing anything with her in her room that we had not done when she was at my place. dad had no counterpoint to that one, i wisely said nothing. as we are leaving town she reaches over pulls my dick out of my pants and starts giving me a bj. not wanting to do this while driving i pulled off onto a side street and parked. my monger sense seems to have gotten rusty since i failed to notice we were being followed by a cop, who no sooner than i had parked put his red and blue lights on. quickly zipped up my pants and waited for him to come to the car. not sure why we had been pulled over for, but realized that angel could most likely be written up for **** drinking and if he had actually seen what was going on public indecency or lewd acts.
when he got up to the car he asked what was going on. told him that we had been at a party and i thought i might have left my mobile there and wanted to make sure it was in the car before we got too far away. he replied that picking up prostitutes was against the law, took angel back to the cop car and started giving me the 5th degree. last thing i figured would be happening to me this night. did not help that i could not find the insurance card for her mother's car. he asked her a number of questions back in the cop car then came and asked me several questions about her. figured that would clear things up and we would be on our way. the facts that 1) she and i have the same address on our driver's license and 2) i was driving a car registered to her mother, just might suggest to a moderately intelligent person that she was not someone i had just picked up. no such luck here. plus i did not realize that there were any small towns with a sws about, didn't tell him that. cop #1 had called in a reinforcement who soon arrived. cop #2 came and questioned me, i told him what was going on. cop #2 went and had a few words with cop #1, then went and let angel out of the back of the cruiser, came back to me apologized for cop #1's over active imagination and told us to be on our way.
did not wind up doing anything after that just headed back to her parent's house. angel did wind up making up for lost time however on trip down to florida the next week- despite resting up for a week and a half she was still able to wear me out.
Chief_Wiggum
01-25-06, 18:09
BBJTCNQNS I don't know this term. What does it mean ? Sorry, the last part is what the kids call 'no quitting, no spitting' or BBTCWS ('with swallowing'). I just like the way the former sounds rather than the latter. It's like the lost art of the bounce pass. Plus the odd use of the Q distinguishes the leet on this board from the rest :)
Boulder Co Guy
01-26-06, 02:19
In town for business, read some posts and headed down to broadway and 7th around 10:00 pm. At first the area seemjed very dead, about 11:00 pm i saw a girl around Broadway and 9th, cruised around a bit, checked her and the are a out and picked her up. She called herself Jodi, 1/2 and 1/2 for .60. She was obviousy a crackhead, very exhaausted, of course acted as if she was the only one out there thats is not a crack head, but wanted to be dropped in front of th crack house. She was pleasent but not enthusiastic, did a good job. She wasnt really my type but was thye only option I thought. After I dropped her off i saw a number of girls near broadway and 9th and another girl at 7th and 5th, which i would have probably been more interested in, but have to be up early and didnt have more cash on me, so i headed back to my hotel. Did see some LE in the area and when i got out to state st gotr nervouse when I noticed 2 LE behind me. Appeared to be just a coincidence, but gace me a bit of a scare for a moment. Good luck and be carful.
BCG
College Monger
01-26-06, 15:56
Don't really think I have balls. I wound up cruising around Rockford on about 5 or 6 occasions just sort of looking before I picked up Andrea. Before I actually found her took her to a hotel I offered about 8 or 9 working girls rides that were accepted. I then got nervous and dropped them off without doing anything after they offered services telling her I was not interested and just thought she needed a ride. One of these girls I picked up a couple months later and dated however she did not remember me. I got good vibes from Andrea so I decided just to try my luck with her. I've done the pick up and throw back thing a couple of times since then, once because I got nervous again the other time because the woman in question was much less attractive in the car than she was in person. More than once I just cruised the area and did not see any girls out who looked good enough to pick out, there seem to be a handful of very unattractive ones who I constantly see. Been a bit afraid to try the Lingerie places since I am not sure if they record who comes and goes and what all is said when you are with a girl.
I hoped to find a girl who I could set up regular appointments with but found that most of these girls have no phone or just one that has voice mail. In about 5 months of doing this I had 11 encounters with 10 different girls and only managed one repeat. Doing this can waste lots of time. Not sure how long will continue doing this, I "took the plunge" so to speak hoping to get some experience with women something I think I now have. Not done a repeat of the very embarrassing pop in 3 seconds with any of the girls I picked up on the street, a couple complained I took too long! Thus my confidence level is way up in terms of my performance in bed when I find another girlfriend. I think I'm an average looking guy, have plenty of female friends but have always had problems getting them to go out since most girls think I am a "nice guy" but not one they would be interested dating. Only time that attitude changes is when they learn that my car cost more than their parents make in a year. These girls however I put in a class even lower than the ones I pick up on the street, since the girls on the street at least admit they are only in it for the money.
I did think about the thing with the job offer and most likely would not have just submitted her name to PD. However a couple days after I dated "Shelley" I ran into a guy who worked for us last year and he asked if we would be needing help again. I told him probably in a few weeks. He told his friends he was with what the deal was and two of them also expressed interest (it pays just shy of $10 and hour and can be a good 2nd job for some extra holiday cash- I know some friends from college have come to fill in on weekends) so submitted several names at the same time. The guy who had been with us in the past and one of his friends accepted jobs. Thus I had some plausible denieability had she said something like you mentioned. Both she and "Jenny" told me they did not want to be on the street forever and were hoping to find regular jobs. Figured there was an upside if she had gotten the job she might have shown her appreciation to me. Since Andrea I have portrayed myself as a poor college student with the girls I have picked up, helps not driving a $60k car kind of hard to plead poverty.
In my lurking days I did read the reports here going back about a year and a half and did pick up a few hints on mongering. Also discovered in another forum that there may be potential for pickups closer to school, however I am reluctant to bring any girls to my house, since I do have a fair bit of nice things that I would not want ripped off. Wisdom gleaned from reading reports is that some of these girls are just as willing to rip you off as they are to provide a good time.
Thanks for taking the time to write such a lengthy report. You are new to this game but it sounds like you've got balls to say the least. Try to read the reports of your fellow mongers here, they can help you immensely. One word of advice. You may want to imagine hypothetical worst case scenarios when deciding what course of action to take. For example, what worst case scenarios could have occurred when you gave the personal director at the family firm the phone number of a prostitute?
PR Director: "Hello, my name is____ from ___. I was given your number by ___. He said you might be interested in a temporary job? " Ho: "Who gave you my number? " PR Director: "(insert your good name here)" Ho: Well, I don't know anybody named ________. He may be one of my johns but I have so many I can't remember names. And I make pretty good money on my back, so I don't think I'd be interested. "
Be careful out there!
College Monger,
If you are cruising the streets of Rockford and driving
a $60,000 vehicle you should be SUPER careful. If you ever
get busted, you can lose your vehicle. If the laws haven't
changed, they can confiscate your vehicle. If anyone on
here knows that those laws have been changed, please fill
me in.
You may want to consider the LS scene. Although more
expensive, they don't ask your last name or ask for an ID. You
are able to get a closer look at the available girls and make your
choice.
College Monger
01-27-06, 16:27
The first girl I picked up told me the same thing, rich white boys in fancy sports cars dont belong in the area. Went and got a second car, parents are still confused why I did not want a new one. Told them i wanted something more economical and they thought for sure I should get a hybryd. One side effect is I now put the sports car down on insurance as the fun weekend car and was told that my rates are going down $2000 and to expect a refund check for that since it had been paid.
Not had time to go cruising lately. I have class out of the area 3 days a wek and work in town the other two plus some weekends. May try looking at some point this weekend. Would be nice to find a girl who is not a dope head who one could call and get together with on a regular basis.
Not worked up enough courage to go to a LS shop yet. Cost is not always a big factor just a paranoid attitude on my part. I was thinking more onlong the lines of them recording things with cameras or audio tape. I read on hear about a place south of here that does.
College Monger,
If you are cruising the streets of Rockford and driving
a $60,000 vehicle you should be SUPER careful. If you ever
get busted, you can lose your vehicle. If the laws haven't
changed, they can confiscate your vehicle. If anyone on
here knows that those laws have been changed, please fill
me in.
You may want to consider the LS scene. Although more
expensive, they don't ask your last name or ask for an ID. You
are able to get a closer look at the available girls and make your
choice.
The Rockford cops are at again I just saw this in todays paper.
http://rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060127/NEWS07/101270043
College Monger
01-28-06, 12:38
Glad I have not been out looking lately
Prostitution sweep nabs 31
By CORINA CURRY, Rockford Register Star
ROCKFORD — Rockford Police arrested the highest number of prostitutes and their clients during a Thursday night sweep operation that stretched from Broadway to Seventh Street to other areas in town.
A total of 31 people were arrested on charges of prostitution, possession of drug paraphernalia and battery. Six of the 31 were repeat offenders and were charged with felony prostitution charges.
The sweep took place from 5 p.m. to midnight. Both prostitutes and their clients — known as “Johns” — were arrested for soliciting or attempting to buy sex on Rockford streets.
Thursday night’s sweep focused on both men and women, said Rockford Deputy Police Chief Theo Glover.
The operation involved the use of several officers include male officers working undercover as “Johns” and female officers working undercover as prostitutes.
Glover said Thursday night’s relatively pleasant weather may have contributed to the high numbers
Dark Phoenix
01-28-06, 12:48
Karina was another Lingerie Shop girl that hit the streets after the rule change and the one she worked at shut down. Was not real happy that as a SW she was expected to charge far less than she had before altough she did like the fact that she had some choice in the guys she went with, unlike at the LS she had to go with any guy who picked her. .Wrong. Your picture is an old picture of Careena Collins, who did a lot of porn in the late 80's & early 90's, contributes regularly to swinger's mags and still occasionally does porn to this day. The fact that you have the name "Karina" attached to the image only proves you're a faker (who can't spell).
This is the first time I posted on your thread, I've been a regular on the Philly board, but when I was looking at the photo gallery and saw a pic of Careena Collins I figured I'd check out the thread and laughed my ass off reading that BS report. I hope that you enjoy being exposed as a fraud and that the real mongers on this board rip you a new one for it.
Corndog #2
01-28-06, 17:12
Ralph, my friend, you seem to find a way to start bickerings over photos of familiar looking women. But once again, I must align myself with your side on this one...
While a search of Google does, indeed, show a porn actress by the name of Careena -- and yes, she bears a resemblance to your Karina -- it is not the same woman. While Ralph's is undoubtedly attractive, the porn Careena is just a bit more so. Nothing personal, Ralph -- and I'd certainly like to meet up with your Karina, if you'd provide contact info -- but the porn star is just a little up the attraction ladder.
And by the way, do we really need an interloper from Philadelphia to pass judgement on this board's posters? I think not, T.O. breath.
I wondered why Rock was empty.
I went through the Rock on Friday and it looked like all the people had died. Only one girl on the street (Cindy) and that was a sad experience. She took me back to her place and I dropped about double what I normally do (I am a cheap ass though) and she had flaccid tits, flabby belly, only wanted to do it with a condom (BJ), everything was going to cost more...terrible.
Then today, I ran into Lisa south on 11th, went to her place, and again, if you ever need to make a video of a lack of enthusiasm, she's your girl. I basically said forget it and walked out.
HHH
I have no idea how she waanted her name spelled she told me her name was karina. I took the picture, she did not want any more pictures taken and that was the only one I got. Not the best one since I was on the iother side of the room when it was taken and on the print she is only about an inch tall. Do not really think she was a porn actress, I suspet she may have made osme mention of it but since you and one other have stated they look similar then it may have been a "street" name she adopted due to her resemblance.
Not sure why my pics cause so much conterversy. If you were convinced the pic was taken from elsewhere then perhaps you should have shown a source, but since I took the pic the only place it will be is on my computer and here unless someone downloads it from her and places it elsewhere. At some point I'll elte it from mine.
I have no clue how to contact her I met her shortly after the new LS riules went into effect, within weeks of meetingJodi / Carrie. saw Jodi a few more times but never saw Karina again, I had phone 3 for her but I tossed it after tried it and it did not work.
Interesting how the newspaper did not print any names this time. Last tiem they did and most reports I have seen in the past have named names. Perhaps someone from the paper was busted so no names got listed?
Wrong. Your picture is an old picture of Careena Collins, who did a lot of porn in the late 80's & early 90's, contributes regularly to swinger's mags and still occasionally does porn to this day. The fact that you have the name "Karina" attached to the image only proves you're a faker (who can't spell).
This is the first time I posted on your thread, I've been a regular on the Philly board, but when I was looking at the photo gallery and saw a pic of Careena Collins I figured I'd check out the thread and laughed my ass off reading that BS report. I hope that you enjoy being exposed as a fraud and that the real mongers on this board rip you a new one for it.
Read the article again, Ralph. In a seperate box below the story, all the names and charges were given.
And I also find it amusing how your photo collection causes controversy. What do you suppose the reason is, Ralph?
DJ
Galactus01
01-30-06, 23:53
The recent bust reminds us the risk involved on the street..It was interesting to see the amount also busted for drugs. This is a great risk to any monger too. God knows what they are on.
I admit I havent been on the street scene for a while although I did look last summer. Its just too risky personally for me and for what you get for the most part it isnt worth it in my opinion. In my opinion what I saw most were only 3-5 in the looks dept. If you get busted thats just the beginning of your problems. I do think the LS shops are a better alternative. Yeah its a little more but safer. The girls are also better looking in general. The girls on the streets cant get hired there one reason being because they cant have any bruises on them even. I know and knew some in the shops and they were good. Yeah you can get disappointed in there too but its better in my opinion.
Now this is the Rockford Scene. In other communites this might not be the case. The street could be good. My first choice and recommendation is go for a high priced escort. High priced I mean 250-300hr. I have never been burned there and I never felt paranoid or worried. I would save your money and get a your 1 hr that way. You can find some in rockford but most are in the chicago suburb area. For me the only thing I go for is full service or nothing.
True YMMV(your mileage may vary) there too and you're not guaranteed anything but use the review website boards first and your head and you have a good chance of coming out good!
No more missing teeth or worse.
The street is just not worth the hassle anymore here in Rockford. Just my 2 pennies.
Not worked up enough courage to go to a LS shop yet. Cost is not always a big factor just a paranoid attitude on my part. I was thinking more onlong the lines of them recording things with cameras or audio tape. I read on hear about a place south of here that does.[/QUOTE]
I have noticed in other parts of the Country that Video Cameras are
installed in the rooms. As yet, that is Not a requirement in the Rock.
I'll look along the walls and ceiling of a room when I enter to make
sure. As yet, I have not seen any. If you Ever find a place that has
them installed I doubt that you'll EVER get anything Extra and chances
are they won't be in business very long.
College Monger
01-31-06, 16:09
Did Not know one could find #### actresses on the Rockford streets. That is if it is the same girl.
I do think there have been some in Rockford before, when I was a kid once when my uncle was drunk hr claimed he dated Ginger Lynn when she was in teenager in Rockford. I asked him who she was and he said a #### actress, mom stopped him from saying anymore (I think I was 13 or 14 at the time) Since then I have asked him about it and he denies every saying that.
Wrong. Your picture is an old picture of Careena Collins, who did a lot of #### in the late 80's & early 90's, contributes regularly to swinger's mags and still occasionally does #### to this day. The fact that you have the name "Karina" attached to the image only proves you're a faker (who can't spell).
This is the first time I posted on your thread, I've been a regular on the Philly board, but when I was looking at the photo gallery and saw a pic of Careena Collins I figured I'd check out the thread and laughed my ass off reading that BS report. I hope that you enjoy being exposed as a fraud and that the real mongers on this board rip you a new one for it.
Chief_Wiggum
01-31-06, 17:11
Now this is the Rockford Scene. In other communites this might not be the case. The street could be good. My first choice and recommendation is go for a high priced escort. High priced I mean 250-300hr. I have never been burned there and I never felt paranoid or worried. I would save your money and get a your 1 hr that way. You can find some in rockford but most are in the chicago suburb area. For me the only thing I go for is full service or nothing.
The street is just not worth the hassle anymore here in Rockford. Just my 2 pennies.
The street is a monster hassle, imo, I agree. However, I still think it's worth it to hit the streets first.
No girl in RFD (and very few in Chicago) are worthe the 3 bills. I am shocked -- shocked I tell you -- that people pay these prices. [I'm usually good for a rant like this once a year, so i guess this is it.] I usually forget about the high prices until I go out and find nothing, and then I travel to some other city (like LA or Honolulu, I'm not even considering the true finds/best bargains like Philly, NY, or Toronto) and I find major talent for less than Chicago prices. True, you have to dig around a little more, but, it does give a sense of accomplishment and that only adds to the reward.
LS makes the most sense, but these aren't the hottest chicks. I mean they're hot for Chicago (like 6-7s), but they would be 5s in any other city (at least that I have visited, except maybe Detroit). Anyone with a LS TR? With only two left and major attitude at Chantilly, it just becomes frustrating.
Anyway, my whole point is if street prices stay low, they are a viable alternative, especially if you have a lot of time on your hands. High price escorts are almost cost prohibitive (c'mon it's more than I spend on my real girlfriends). Street is where you should start, give it an hour or two, take a break, go one last route, and then hit a LS. Special times (like hitting a table hard) is reserved for the escort (teach'em a lessor, lower price and increase turnover ;))
Word has it that you can currently find a porn actress working in one of the local bikini bars, so the street is not a huge stretch. Personally I want to believe in Ralph.
But if found any porn actress working the street, I'd be sure to ask for her AIM test.
Dark Phoenix
02-01-06, 12:42
Hey guys,
If you want to believe that Ralph picked up Careena Collins, the porn star, on the streets of Rockford Illinois, you need to put down that crack pipe and come back to reality. The photo that Ralph posted as "Karina" is a late 80's still of Careena Collins from one of the Jerome Tanner movies she starred in, probably "Nymphette", and you can tell it's that time frame from both the hair and the dress.
If you did any actual research into who Careena is, she's a contributing editor to a number of national swingers and other adult mags, left the business to obtain a law degree from Pepperdine U in California, has a business as a produceer and photographer in adult film (in California, not Rockford) at the present time, and recently performed in her first scene in years with a black male actor she wanted to fuck. She could buy and sell Ralph's ass several times over and is not only beautiful, educated and admitted to the California bar, but is successful in her own right and was NO FUCKING WAY selling her ass on the street in Rockford. You may want to believe in Santa Claus also but that doesn't make it real. Simply because a senior member posts a report and suggests that this extremely successful and educated Californian "could have been a porn star" when he picked her up 1200 miles from where she's ever been, everyone wants to believe him.
Many posters in different threads in this forum post utter fiction and try to pass it off as fact for reasons entirely their own. Going back thru previous Ralph posts, I note he's previously posted pics of Gina Lynn, a porn star under current contract with Pleasure Productions who has had some crossover success (cameos in the Sopranos and an Eminem video) and suggested he found the pics on Craigslist, although Gina is married and doesn't do escorting. Then there are other pics he posted of an alleged SW which turned up on a California Craigslist board - and when he was busted, he came up with the contrived story that someone lifted HIS (Ralph's) pics and posted a fake SW ad in California. How gullible does someone need to be to buy this?
If the guy posts pics of hot gals that he finds on the internet and wants to create fictional stories of his encounters with them to get his jollies, that's fine as long as others enjoy it. But don't waste your gas driving around trying to find them. You have to be mighty gullible to buy these byzantine excuses about every instance where his "sex partner" is actually a celebrity or an escort hundreds of miles away from his hunting grounds. Collective belief in fiction does not make it true, regardless of what you'd "rather" believe. The whole controversy smacks of the "intelligent design" debate....a lot of people who prefer to believe in a more flattering fiction than accept the cold hard facts.
In short, Careena Collins never sold her ass in Rockford. Gina Lynn never offered escort services in California. And the escort in California is not an escort in Rockford who had her likeness appropriated and posted on Craigslist on the other side of the country.
Dark Phoenix
02-01-06, 12:47
Pornstar-address-book.com/star/pornlist/Careena_Collins_bio.htm
Not the same pic, but definitely the same gal.
World Wise
02-01-06, 15:47
Crusied for a while in Rockford last evening. With the two sweeps in six weeks, much of the normal selection was no where to be found. Probably now living at 214 N. Church Street, at least for a while.
Early, about 6:30 it was almost lonely on the track. Later, while GWB was telling us what good shape the country is in these days, activity picked up. On one run from Harrison and 11th up to Chantilly Lace, I counted 9 suspects. Everyone was a little shy, as you would expect. I saw no one who appealed to me, so I called an old friend and was serviced at her place.
The streets are a-changing in Rockford. Is there an election this spring?
Soul Vitamin
02-01-06, 18:50
Word has it that you can currently find a porn actress working in one of the local bikini bars...
Could you share which bikini bar and which porn actress? Just curious.
Hummmm,anyone remember the playboy playmate (forget her name) from early '80's who thought she had it made. Went into porn and crack. Ended up in Florida turning tricks on the street with HIV, then found dead.
So Ralph is still the man, whats the latest on 'angel' anyway Ralph?
Yes there are elections coming up in March.
Be careful, the political hacks will push the PD hard to "clean up the streets" which means going after easy targets where no one is like to "put up a fight". Like guys and girls that are trying to get together.
Going after gang bangers, crack houses and corrupt-politicians are far more hazardous for the police. The latter is the most dangerous.
Forget the car!
Your parents need to send you to Rio, Sao Paulo (or anywhere in Brazil), Buenos Aires or Germany for foreign study for about a month. Read the international boards.
About a month of overseas education would be highly enlightening and travel is part of a good education.
The advice on not driving a nice car is good advice.
Try the Belvedere board; you won’t have any problems in either CLV or ERS.
If you can't get anything else, go to San Jose, Costa Rica to study Spanish and cultural emersion for a month or two, very affordable.
Yes there are elections coming up in March.
Be careful, the political hacks will push the PD hard to "clean up the streets" which means going after easy targets where no one is like to "put up a fight". Like guys and girls that are trying to get together.
Going after gang bangers, crack houses and corrupt-politicians are far more hazardous for the police. The latter is the most dangerous.
Maybe we should import some politicians from Nevada, legalize prostitution,
and lower taxes. I would be willing to bet that the Rockford airport would
have alot more business from incoming tourists....whoops, I forgot,we can't
BET here.
College Monger
02-03-06, 16:03
I like my car but realize it may not be the best thing to drive while looking for girls. Should have thought of that ahead of time.
A friend and I are thinking of going to Moscow for spring break. He knows about my very bad first time with agirl as does evryone else who knows both me and the young lady) but does not know been getting some practice with women in Rockford.
Last semester in Russian class there was an older guy (guessing he was in his late 40s or early 50s) who told us he had been to Moscow on one of the tours where they try to set up American (as well as Canadian and western European) guys most of them middle aged with single young 18-30 year old Russian girls for the prospect of marriage. He said most of these girls are so desperate to get out of Russia that they will do any thing. He said he went to a mixer every night he was there and wound up going home with a different girl who put out for him hoping he would take her away with him. He knew no Russian when he went and figured it would help if he learned some for his next trip over. We figured it might be worth a shot, especially since we are both much younger. Might even find a girl worth bringing back home with us. As the motto on the brochure for the place that arranges these trips says "It is easier to teach a Russian woman how to speak english than it is to teach an American woman to be a good wife". Suspecting with my limited Russian I will come across to these girls as if they wer talking to a small child, although I did notice that a fair number of the woman either know some English or are in the process of learning it.
Did do a cruise through town earlier in the week and saw nothing that I would want to pick up. Lots of really unattractive girls out there, guessing the good ones get picked up quickly. I was only able to find one of the girls I picked up for a repeat performance. The few that gave me contact info dont seem to keep their phones on very long- reading past reports this seems to be common. I was also told via a PM that in my opinion the best of the girls I picked up kiled herslef via a drug overdose. Located her obit in the paper. Happened less than a week after I saw her, so I guess she will not be a repeat. That sort of has freaked me out, plus with the big bust have been reluctant to stay out looking for very long.
Forget the car!
Your parents need to send you to Rio, Sao Paulo (or anywhere in Brazil), Buenos Aires or Germany for foreign study for about a month. Read the international boards.
About a month of overseas education would be highly enlightening and travel is part of a good education.
The advice on not driving a nice car is good advice.
Try the Belvedere board; you won’t have any problems in either CLV or ERS.
If you can't get anything else, go to San Jose, Costa Rica to study Spanish and cultural emersion for a month or two, very affordable.
Read the international board on Moscow, not very encouraging.
As to the looking for a sucker, expect a divorce the day the INS requirements are met for staying here minus you. I have seen this plenty of times.
You can also expect to be sucked dry for money every waking minute. Sorry, but thats how it is. I did know one middle age State Department Guy's wife who went to college with me many moons ago. Perfect ten from Soviet Union, smart like a fox. The state guy had her with pre-nuptuals, visa restrictions and as far as I could tell may have had her name on some financed assets that he could expect to loose in a divorce. In short, both him and her knew he was paying for it and he had determined the price and she had agreed.
The only guys she would talk to at school had money. As soon as she knew I had cash she was friendly but made it clear she was 100 % dedicated to her man for sex. My read is she was looking for the next guy, not uncommon in women that are looking to make a switch.
If you are single, and have a lot of money when you are 50, and want to pack a 20 year old girl until she meets her visa requirements; this is how you do it. Oh yeah, make sure you have a good lawyer so you don't get cleaned when she files for divorce and goes for the house and car.
I hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings but the only experiences I have had with E. European women are all on the same topic: money money money money money even when you are packing them it doesn't stop.
My guess is that you are too young for that kind of crap.
College,
Any chance your friend can keep his mouth shut? Take a chance on bringing him along to one of the bars or clubs in Holland or Germany?
I had a friend I was traveling with in the Western US while I was in college. When in Nevada I made a b-line for the Chicken Ranch with the guy since he was interested. 30 years ago the Nevada brothels were very affordable with up to 50 girls in the line up, $60 for 30 min bareback FS, CIM.
My friend chickened out and waited in the lobby for me. After that, I would unload him for two hours when I wanted to hobby, he didn't ask. Like most college friendships I lost track of the guy after a couple of years. He feigned moral superiority while-jakn off every chance he had. Stable girls don't service people that are only in town for the day.
I had a great brunet that I recognized in school back east two months later (summer job). Small planet. I thought she was going to pass out when I said hi to her in the student union (girl next door type cheerleader) while she was leaving my girlfriend's office in the union. Explains the rock hard body and tight ass. She disappeared.
Later found out that the 22 year old I was dating use to run a call girl service in Arizona and had set her up to work at the ranch, where I suspect my former girlfriend got her start. Always wondered how she got so good at oral CIM, CIF or anywhere else you wanted. She too panicked when she realized that I knew what was going on. She was the student body President. Locked her office, got real busy and changed her phone numbers. She disappeared three months later when the year finished.
I did have other like-minded friends that I could hit the clubs and SWs with or even double up with on willing college or town girls. It made life better to have someone to run with. My most dependable running mate had spent lots of time in Vietnam and the Philippines where a day without a bj is ....well like a day without a bj. If your friend doesn't want to partake, he can usually hang in the club while the girls torture him into submission, who knows maybe a first free-bee to ruin him. If they know he has never tied, they will all want to pop his cherry.
If you are fixed on Moscow suggest you spend time in Amsterdam, Berlin, or Prague for fun and hobby. Of the three, the scene is best in Berlin which is a great city. If you want some travel tips, PM me. Czech national airlines has great packages, you can also use Martin air to A-Dam dirt cheap and train from there.
Or for that matter why not do a week in each?
Tony Sop II
02-04-06, 18:56
I am looking if any of you have any info on a girl named renee that used to dance at the bigfoot. blonde hair, small chest, nice firm ass. Did she offer any extras? Or any other info you might have.
Thank You
if i may chime in...
it's not only the e. european woman. the general consensus is any foreign woman that is brought to the US, becomes americanized within 2yrs. they get to talking with the neighbor women, or co-workers, and realize they dont have to keep treating you like a king.
i too know of a poor sap: he was going to Cuba like every 3 months because of a Cubana he met. he would send her money to support her and her daughter. this went on for 6 years! he was also working on getting her a visa to come to the US. god knows how much that cost him. eventually he married her in Cuba, and finally got her and the daughter into the US. last i heard he was divorced from her about 2 years after her arrival. i think he's back to going to Cuba.
MY PICS
Not sure what they causes so much controversy. I will admit Careena Collins looks like the girl I found I Rockford. Never said they were the same girl and not claiming she is. I am however amazed about claims I have pics in CA. Never been there, never posted there. I can't comment on all the areas I have posted pictures, since several of them I have not looked at since posting them- but I have definitely not made any of the claims Aressex attributes to me in defending other pics. With the exception of one that I clearly attributed as having been found on the IL prison website ALL of the pics of girls I have posted are ones that I have taken. They have been in the following states: IA,IL,IN,MO,NE,OH & WI do a search.
If I am posting fake pics I wonder why there have been multiple instances where others say they have met the girl in question, even while complaining that the pics I am posting are too old! Plan to put a few more in other states tonite.
ARREST REPORTS
Did see the names in the article as linked which is different than the one college monger posted. Seems the paper did a similar story on two different days. No girls whose names I recognize were in this group. I guess that is a good thing.
FOREIGN GIRLS
I know a guy who married a girl from Russia he was ~50 and she was ~30 when the hooked up. She brought with her a 11 year old kid, whom when I met him thought he was a retard. Did not know he was from Russia and talked to him, he just gave me a blank stare. Learned he was homesick and was resisting efforts to teach him English so the poor kid must have thought he was in hell or something. Wife spoke good English with an accent, only saw wife and kid once a few years ago but know he is still married to her and she has another kid with him. Don't know how the one she brought over is faring so not all these stories end in failure.
I have had little experience with foreign women. Picked up a SW on a trip to Canada about a year or so ago. She seemed to be a lot like the ones one finds here although with the prices being the same in $CAN as they are here one got about a 30% discount. Like a few I have met over here she claimed not to be a regular SW, was just in need of cash since she was between jobs. She also said she was not a drug addict and found it peculiar that I though she might be. Wound up hanging out with her for a couple days. I had gone to Canada to pick up some stuff purchased from eBAy and learned one has to be out of the US for 48 hours to claim ones allowance of duty free items. Wish US customs had been as easy to deal with as she was when coming back to US. Canada however is a lot like the US, although Canadians are loathe to admit it.
Other foreign girl was not a pro, but a girl met at business conference in Des Moines in February. She had talked her employer into letting her have her vacation after the conference and thus did not have to pay her airfare over here. She had no idea how big US was or how hard it is to get around if you rely on public transport. She wanted to see an Uncle in Texas, so I decided to take her down there then we went to Florida for a week before she went back home. Best thing about it all was not only was she an enthusiastic performer in bed, but she insisted on covering almost all the costs on the trip! England however is not a third world country and she had no desire to leave her career. I went over to see her about 7 months later and she tried to talk me into moving there but at that point in time I was still hoping to save the family business I had inherited from the slow lingering death it was suffering from due to new rules imposed upon it by the Clinton administration. By the time it failed contact between us had grown more infrequent and she had found someone else.
SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC
Paid a visit to Rockford for the weekend. I had to take off to Chicago area on Saturday and en rout noted you guys raised the tolls again, one that used to be 40c a year ago is now $1.60. I am under the impression a few of the guys on here come to Rockford from Chicago. I know could not deal with this on a regular basis. Wound up in Lake county and took backroads back to Rockford Saturday evening since it was shorter and cheaper! Illinois should take a lesson from Kentucky. I once saw an old map of Kentucky and noticed many of the freeways were shown as tollroads. asked someone I knew who was from Kentucky and he told me as soon as the tolls had paid for the road's construction the road was turned into a freeway! He liked the idea but was upset that one he took about 4 times a month between his home town and college town was turned into a freeway a month after he graduated and stopped using it.
They were supposed to be free in Illinois after they were paid for. Never happened.
Kentucky should send their public officials up here for training in skimming the basket, undercounting the till, employing dead relatives, donating cash to political campaigns, ignoring promises when bonds are issued, overpaying well connected construction companies that hire the wives of politicians and contribute heavily to their campaigns etc. etc etc.
Perhaps we should offer courses in graft and corruption as foreign aid to politicians from surrounding states.
PS If you have Big Brother fears, the toll authority records your information for every toll you pass through including time and day. A smart lawyer could subpoena it (along with copies of all of your e-mails) from Big Brother. Yes your internet carrier, inc yahoo keeps copies of all of your e-mails and will surrender them with a court order. Same for your cell phone provider.
To stay on topic, yes the cost of getting to your favorite fishing hole is going up if you don't allow the state to track your movements.
College Monger
02-06-06, 19:09
College,
Any chance your friend can keep his mouth shut? Take a chance on bringing him along to one of the bars or clubs in Holland or Germany? . If you are fixed on Moscow suggest you spend time in Amsterdam, Berlin, or Prague for fun and hobby. Of the three, the scene is best in Berlin which is a great city. If you want some travel tips, PM me. Czech national airlines has great packages, you can also use Martin air to A-Dam dirt cheap and train from there.
Or for that matter why not do a week in each?
My friend is actually the one that suggested the trip to Russia- his folks are willing to pay since he claims it will help in Russian class. He has even worse luck with girls than I have had. Although I have only had sex with one girl who was not wanting $$ I have dated a fair number of women. He is referred to as the anti girl magnet. He, myself and another friend where out for pizza once and when he went to the counter to pick up the order our other friend and myself noted that there were 3 cute girls about two tables away and overheard them talking about maybe coming over and introducing themselves to the 3 guys over there. Figuring he would screw up and ruin all of our chances somehow when he got back we told him. That we had overheard them talking about us and if they came over not to do anything real stupid. He did not wait for them to come over to screw up. As soon as he put the pizza down he turned around and pointing at the women said in a very loud voice "are those the girls who are talking about us" They got up moved to the other side of the restaurant and wound up getting their pizza to go. Thus he is looking at it as the means to actually maybe get a girl and ordered the Russian bride catalogs. He does not know I have been down in Rockford picking up girls. So suspect we will not be finding any of them who want money up front.
Spring break is only a week long so we cant really go much of anywhere else. Even at 10 days we will not have much time since I am guessing it will take at least a day to get over jet lag. Took longer than that on trip to western Europe in HS.
Was in Rockford on Saturday and saw hardly any girls out at all. Guess the bust has everyone locked up or scared to come out. Thought I saw Jenny out but she was talking to a guy and they went and got into a van. Came around the block again a few minutes later and saw the van still parked there and they appeared inside, would think one would want to get out of the area before doing anything.
Later wound up offering a ride to a thin, fairly tall girl who gave me the name of Sara. She came across with a really unpleasant personality (I'd use one of the banned words here if it were not banned) mentioned that she had just spent some time in lock up for undisclosed reasons and seemed a bit down that her birthday was Monday. She also smelled like an ashtray. She may have also been a drug aaddict since there were marks on her arm. Decided to let her out of the car before we discussed any services.
Being a bit pressed for time I decided to take the advice of some on here and try the Lingerie Shops. First went to Chantilly Lace and took a look at the girls. Went across the street to look at the ones there. The ones at Chantilly Lace were by far better looking, so I went back there. When I got there however the one who would have been my first choice had been choosen by someone else. So I picked a blonde girl whose name I cant recall.
Paid them the 75 for the room and got back there with her, not much privacy. She asked what kind of show I wanted. I replied that I wanted the best one she had to offer. Was told she was not offering that kind today, since it was her time of month. She said she could do a han d job and that would be as much as I had just paid for the room! Inquired about a BJ and she said she did do those but since she was out of protection at that moment that we could do that on a future visit. I was not all that pleased by all of this and asked what one got for the money one paid up front and was told that was a lingerie show and I could service myself if I wanted to. Needless to say I was none too pleased at all this since I got lots more from almost all of the girls I had found on the street for less than 75! I was also told that one of the other girls might be willing to offer more today but I would have to pay for the room again to find out. She said I cant really complain to management since there were signs up in the room saying that none of the girls offered anything in terms of sexual services. She claimed the owner had no clue at all what really happened in the rooms.
Wound up heading back to school unsatisfied since I felt I had just been screwed. Don't think I will go back there. The LS costmore and delivered less and although on average the girls at CL were better looking than ones on the street I would say that three of the SWs I picked up (Theresa, Andrea and Shelley) were better looking than all of the girls there and most of the girls I have picked up on the street were better looking than all the ones across the street. Although the ugly ones on the street are much worse than the girls at eitehr although I do not pick them up. One also does not have to pay $75 just to find out one is not going to get what one wants, as I have let many go after discovering they were too unattractive or unpleasant.
Illinois ALSO hires Prosecuting Attorneys who aren't
even Licensed :)
World Wise
02-07-06, 11:24
Spent a few hours on Rockford last evening. Seems to be fewer providers working, but LE presence not too oppresive, IMHO.
Met a new friend named Ericia. White, about 25, 5'4" maybe 120. Guess to be a rock smoker, but not all skinny and nervious like many. Found her on 7th Street at about 5th Ave. Bright enough to carry on a conversation, and college educated. Med sized tat on lower back. No piercings that I noticed.
Took me to a friend's house out off Perryville Road. Two Jacksons and a Hamilton for FS, slow and nice. Have digits, if anyone is interested.
By the way, Ralph and all. The tolls between Chicago have been restructered, but not raised. Used to be three 40/80 cent tolls between Woodfield and Rockford. Now there is one 40/80 cent toll and one 80/1.60 toll. Same total cost. I agree we were all lied to about eliminating the tolls when the bonds were paid off, but when do those guys NOT lie to us? Only when they're not talking.
New rules in Rockford. Only HJ's at the LS'S?
Guessing this might be another porn actress or something I found on the streets of Rockford a number of years ago and saw a number of times. Or at least someone can claim she is. Actaully just want to make more room on hard drive adn will keep being the only one posting pics here since no one else seems to be willing to share.
As far as I know she was a local girl who did the old proven way to become succesful in life, by having a kid in high school and then dropping out. First met her when she was 19 before she learned the joys of drugs. One of the few girls who actaully liked posing for pics (the other I found was also named Lisa) and she wanted copies of them that I wound up giving her on more than one occasion. Have about 40 or so pics of her these are the ones I thought were the best. She wound up getting some free room and board from the government for a year or so and was a bit rougher looking when she came back. She learned her profession from her mother and on more than one occasion tried to get me to do the mother daughter threesome. Something I never did since her mother looked like she could be her grandmother. Last saw her out in ~2002.
As one can tell this one is another porn actress I found in Rockford.
Only met up with Shelby once, thinking it would have been in fall of 04. Rather cute girl, thought I got a pic of her face with all her clothes on but have not found it, although did get this one. Only time I wound up taking a pic of myself in action. She was a cute girl told me she was 20 and had recently lost her job and was just doing this until she found another one. A common story that I think is wishful thinking on the girl's part. She seemed to be real upset about something, almost to the point of crying, but I think that it may have just been the fact that she was anxious to get done and go buy her drugs. Did her in the vehicle since she was acting real rushed and did not want ot go to a motel. Had I seen her again would have insisted to get her in bed since even rushed in vehicle she was good, suspect in bed she would have been better.
By the way, Ralph and all. The tolls between Chicago have been restructered, but not raised. Used to be three 40/80 cent tolls between Woodfield and Rockford. Now there is one 40/80 cent toll and one 80/1.60 toll. Same total cost. I agree we were all lied to about eliminating the tolls when the bonds were paid off, but when do those guys NOT lie to us? Only when they're not talking.
When doing the Chicago / Rockford run I always get on / off in Belvidere- It saved me a toll plus I either want to top off or fill up with not quite as expensive gas- taking Rt 20 to Rockford is 65 MPH almost all the way so it does not take a lot longer. It used to be going from there to the 290/ Rt53 exit was 2 x 40c plus 1x15c toll, for 95c total going back did not have the 15c one. Last time I went in it was 1 x $1.60, 1x 80c & 1x 30c for a total of $2.70. Almost triple what it had been.
I do not take the IL tollroads enough to make the transponder economical. Before all the rate hikes had an average of $20 a year in tolls so they would want over two years prepaid, plus if I wanted receipts for tax purposes would have to pay them $24 which would negate any savings I might incur.
Saw Kellie several times over the years, hope no one claims she is another porn actress. Like many girls she told me she was a part timer who went out either when she was short on cash or was horny, think this was true. Told me she did not want a boyfriend since every guy she had ever hooked up with turned out to treat her poorly. She did have a day job working retail and once told me where it was and that I could stop by during the day to arrange a date for the evening. However I never did. As far as I could tell she was not a drug user.
Ci-Traveler
02-10-06, 10:56
Wrong. Your picture is an old picture of Careena Collins, who did a lot of porn in the late 80's & early 90's, contributes regularly to swinger's mags and still occasionally does porn to this day. The fact that you have the name "Karina" attached to the image only proves you're a faker (who can't spell).
This is the first time I posted on your thread, I've been a regular on the Philly board, but when I was looking at the photo gallery and saw a pic of Careena Collins I figured I'd check out the thread and laughed my ass off reading that BS report. I hope that you enjoy being exposed as a fraud and that the real mongers on this board rip you a new one for it.
I have to say that I'm glad someone else is tired of reading the pics Ralph continues to put up. The girls he might actually have done are butt ugly, and the ones he wishes he did are fakes. But - that's not the real problem. I just don't find the information helpful at all. I don't find the reports credible, nor do I find them applicable to the board. I just find them to be casually boastful - in terms of the sheer number.
I wish Jackson would see these reports for what they are and outlaw them - banish them - or, as he has done in the past for others - give Ralph his own soapbox (category) where he can post all he wants without wasting the rest of our time.
Just my .25, $1.00.....or whatever......
ci-traveler
Ci-Traveler
02-10-06, 11:08
Wrong. Your picture is an old picture of Careena Collins, who did a lot of porn in the late 80's & early 90's, contributes regularly to swinger's mags and still occasionally does porn to this day. The fact that you have the name "Karina" attached to the image only proves you're a faker (who can't spell).
Here is a pic of Colins - just so you all can see the two together......Ralph's Karina and Aressex's Careena.......
Just sharing.
ci-traveler
Turkey John
02-10-06, 13:46
I like Ralph's posts.
TJ
Mister Quick
02-10-06, 15:44
I have to say that I'm glad someone else is tired of reading the pics Ralph continues to put up. The girls he might actually have done are butt ugly, and the ones he wishes he did are fakes.......
ci-traveler
I find the pictures enjoyable- no one else seems interested in posting any new ones, so at least it lets onesee what was available. I know I posted a picture of one of the girls I meet in Rockford last year, but left my camera in a hotel room so lack the ability to do any more.
As far as I have seen in the forums I read only one person has accused Ralph of a fake picture- the one of Carenna / Karina. Will admit they do look similiar. Another with poor eyesite claimed Ralph had posted pictures of the same girl with different names in different cities. I seem to recall you mentioning that the picture he posted in Bloomington last year was of a young woman you had been with. Granted some of them are less than 10s, but I fail to see how one comes to the conclusion that all the ones that are not ugly are fake. No one is forcing anyone to look at the pictures so if you do not like do not click on them when you see his posts.
World Wise
02-10-06, 17:36
Boy do I agree with TJ and with MQ. I enjoy Ralph's contributions and wish more would contribute. Personally I have not figured out how to even upload my phone photos, much less photos from a digital camera. I know that sounds dumb, but I have not devoted the time to figure it out. My bad.
Keep them coming Ralph. I have been chasing HOs in Rockford for 10 years, and recognise most of the 'ladies' you post.
SW's change cities and names too.
Hobby Lover
02-12-06, 23:21
Ci Traveler,
If you don't like Ralph's post and think its a waste of time, you are free to skip them and don't read and respond.
Scrolling past a post you don't like takes a hell of a lot less time than whining about posts and pics you don't like.
I wish Jackson would see these reports for what they are and outlaw them - banish them - or, as he has done in the past for others - give Ralph his own soapbox (category) where he can post all he wants without wasting the rest of our time.
Just my .25, $1.00.....or whatever......
ci-traveler
Sv Guy 2002
02-14-06, 01:06
Posted this once and got a thing saying to sign in, and it was not on the list of reports so trying again. Ignore it if it is already here.
This is a somewhat unusual request. I am trying to track down a girl I went to high school with, who I now have reason to believe may be working as a prostitute of some type in Rockford. I believe this since over the holidays I ran into an old high school teacher who knew I had the hots for her in school. He mentioned if I still did and went up to Rockford and found her I could have my way with her for the right price. Took me awhile to figure this one out. After I did I just figured something bad must have happened to her since her parents were fairly well off, and had a home nicer than my folks do and dont think it is an occupation they would encourage her to take up. At the time I had a live in girlfriend so id not pursue the matter further- but due to a recent break up I decided to try and find out what I could. This website looked to be the best place to try, typing "Rockford" & "prostitute" into search engines gave me lots of links to sites devoted to the Rockford Files TV series. arrest reports from the Star a forum simialr to this that appeared to be noweher as useful and this one.
I am not going to use the girl's last name in case my teacher was playing a joke on me, since if this is not true it could come back to haunt her and me. Her first name is Michelle. She is currently 21, we are both from a town where we watched the Rockford TV stations. I have not seen her in almost 4 years, but last time I dd she was about 5'2" tall and weighed about 110 pounds with long Blondie hair and nice sized but not huge breasts. She liked wearing black. Suspect her weight and hair color could change especially if she has become a drug user like it seems many of these girls have. One thing about her that would not change is the fact she is lost the tip of one of her fingers on her left hand.
I have tried tracking her down. I have avoided calling her parents since they would not take kindly to the suggestion their daughter was a prostitute even if it was true, although they may not know she is. I called the strip clubs and the lingerie shops in town and learned she is not working at any of them. Leaving me to believe she could either be a street corner girl or an escort. I had a background check run and she has no arrests for prostitution although she was arrested for retail theft, for possesion of alcohol before she turned 21 and along with another girl named Sarah got into trouble for forced entry into a Rockford apartment complex. She also has a fair number of traffic violations, many of them unpaid and several with her having missed court dates on. She was never the most attentive girl in school.
I also contacted a some mutual friends from high school and most had not see since graduation. One friend told me she ran into Michelle in Rockford in December. She was with a guy in his 30s and they appeared to be a couple- this would be a good thing for her. Was told she is still living in Rockford and got a phone number of a phone that has been disconnected so as of a couple months ago she was in Rockford.
Not sure what i am really hoping for here. I did have the hots for her something awful in school. Thought I got over her in college, but I guess I have not. Don't really want to have her turn out to be a prostitute, but would be sorely tempted to seek her out when I come back home to the area for spring break in March and ful;fill a long time fantasy. Since at one point in time almost all I thought about was doing her. I also know that no one on here may know of her and I cant get any proof that she is not a prostitute only that she is. Deep down I hope it is not true since she was a nice girl and desrerves a better life.
Do not email me on this one- I am still living with my ex-girlfriend until graduation since neither of us can afford to move and both or names are on the lease. I dont want her finding any of my emails about this making a bad situation worse. There is always an off chance we will get back together if we dont kill each other first. I will check back here to read any responses.
I cruised around yesterday, fairly early in the day, and did not see one remote prospect, much less a sure thing. Horrible.
Of course now that the streets are cleaned up you can really see how the city has blossomed...all new paint on the houses, no trash in the vacant lots, new cars in all the driveways. Wow what an economic success.
I bet guys had spentmore money getting a soda for $1.20 so they could break a $20 than is spent in total by the vibrant citizens of this newly cleaned up paradise.
HHH
Artificial Red
02-15-06, 03:17
Looks like the broom is out tonight, no less than 7 striped cars sighted and one very aggressive and attractive wsw on the corner of 7th and B'way. Hmmm.
Recently sighted one of Ralph's recent picture post ladies, cant remember her name, but she is the one who learned from her mom. Sheesh, that is messed up. If I remember correctly, Ralph liked her, but I remember from way back that I would not recommend this one. I guess YMMV with her.
Other than that I'm singing the same song as HHH.
SV guy 2002, why don't you call the parents and NOT mention the prostitute part?
His story raises some red flags, but if he wants to find someone, hire a skiptracer.
World Wise
02-15-06, 11:27
I know Shelly well. Has a short left ring finger, birthday 7/27, and grad. Stillman Valley in 2002. She is not working as a prost to my knowledge. PM me for more details.
t
Posted this once and got a thing saying to sign in, and it was not on the list of reports so trying again. Ignore it if it is already here.
This is a somewhat unusual request. I am trying to track down a girl I went to high school with, who I now have reason to believe may be working as a prostitute of some type in Rockford. I believe this since over the holidays I ran into an old high school teacher who knew I had the hots for her in school. He mentioned if I still did and went up to Rockford and found her I could have my way with her for the right price. Took me awhile to figure this one out. After I did I just figured something bad must have happened to her since her parents were fairly well off, and had a home nicer than my folks do and dont think it is an occupation they would encourage her to take up. At the time I had a live in girlfriend so id not pursue the matter further- but due to a recent break up I decided to try and find out what I could. This website looked to be the best place to try, typing "Rockford" & "prostitute" into search engines gave me lots of links to sites devoted to the Rockford Files TV series. arrest reports from the Star a forum simialr to this that appeared to be noweher as useful and this one.
I am not going to use the girl's last name in case my teacher was playing a joke on me, since if this is not true it could come back to haunt her and me. Her first name is Michelle. She is currently 21, we are both from a town where we watched the Rockford TV stations. I have not seen her in almost 4 years, but last time I dd she was about 5'2" tall and weighed about 110 pounds with long Blondie hair and nice sized but not huge breasts. She liked wearing black. Suspect her weight and hair color could change especially if she has become a drug user like it seems many of these girls have. One thing about her that would not change is the fact she is lost the tip of one of her fingers on her left hand.
I have tried tracking her down. I have avoided calling her parents since they would not take kindly to the suggestion their daughter was a prostitute even if it was true, although they may not know she is. I called the strip clubs and the lingerie shops in town and learned she is not working at any of them. Leaving me to believe she could either be a street corner girl or an escort. I had a background check run and she has no arrests for prostitution although she was arrested for retail theft, for possesion of alcohol before she turned 21 and along with another girl named Sarah got into trouble for forced entry into a Rockford apartment complex. She also has a fair number of traffic violations, many of them unpaid and several with her having missed court dates on. She was never the most attentive girl in school.
I also contacted a some mutual friends from high school and most had not see since graduation. One friend told me she ran into Michelle in Rockford in December. She was with a guy in his 30s and they appeared to be a couple- this would be a good thing for her. Was told she is still living in Rockford and got a phone number of a phone that has been disconnected so as of a couple months ago she was in Rockford.
Not sure what i am really hoping for here. I did have the hots for her something awful in school. Thought I got over her in college, but I guess I have not. Don't really want to have her turn out to be a prostitute, but would be sorely tempted to seek her out when I come back home to the area for spring break in March and ful;fill a long time fantasy. Since at one point in time almost all I thought about was doing her. I also know that no one on here may know of her and I cant get any proof that she is not a prostitute only that she is. Deep down I hope it is not true since she was a nice girl and desrerves a better life.
Do not email me on this one- I am still living with my ex-girlfriend until graduation since neither of us can afford to move and both or names are on the lease. I dont want her finding any of my emails about this making a bad situation worse. There is always an off chance we will get back together if we dont kill each other first. I will check back here to read any responses.
SV Guy
You have exactly one post.
No one knows who you are or what you are really up to.
Your sob story about forgotten love that never happend it too long.
I can not think of any reason anyone on this board should help you to locate someone you claim to know. For the girls safety.
Why don't you post your contact details and if she wants to call you, she can.
If you are the PD put out a press release and post it here.
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I am not going to use the girl's last name in case my teacher was playing a joke on me, since if this is not true it could come back to haunt her and me. Her first name is Michelle. She is currently 21, we are both from a town where we watched the Rockford TV stations. I have not seen her in almost 4 years, but last time I dd she was about 5'2" tall and weighed about 110 pounds with long Blondie hair and nice sized but not huge breasts. She liked wearing black. Suspect her weight and hair color could change especially if she has become a drug user like it seems many of these girls have. One thing about her that would not change is the fact she is lost the tip of one of her fingers on her left hand.
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I seem to recall the girl going by the name of Shelby was missing the tip of her ring finger on her left hand, she would have been about the right age and fits your general description. Shelby had a fair number of tattoos on her arms and from what I recall around her tits, she did not take her bra off but pulled her shirt up in the vehicle. You may have not ever seen the tattoos since I would guess she got them after high school. May or may not be your friend. As World Wise mentioned he knows a girl named Shelly who he believes is the girl you are looking for although find it weird that he would know her real well if she is not a working girl. I could have either just heard her name wrong or had a lapse of memory. The mind begins to fail when one gets old and I turn 34 tomorrow. I have no contact info for her and suspect even if I did that it would be no good. Over the years I got numerous phone numbers from girls I picked up and tend to be surprised when they work the next time I got to town. I picked her up on the street and chances are if she is still working the only way you will find her is if you are cruising around and by chance happen upon her. Areas to look can be found in other reports here.
Suspect this is not Sv Guys Michele or Michelle. Figured might as well post them now since they may be of some value to him. You know guys at some point I will be running out of pics and someone else will have to start taking and posting them, the glass is now less than half full. Just by looking at the number of views my pics have been getting someone must like looking at them and then complaining about them.
I picked up Michele in Rockford in the summer of 2004. Told me she was 22 but suspect she was much older and fudging a bit or else she did not age all that well. Although not the best looking girl I have ever met, she was pleasant, clean and fun to be with. Like a lot of girls I have picked up she claimed that she was only doing this while she was between job and was not a drug user. I think she may have been telling me the truth. I did get a phone number for her that turned out to be a landline phone! (Most girls have minute cell phones in my experience) Next time I was in town I called and she was babysitting and unavaiable. A month or so later I called and she said that she remembered me, appreciated the call but she had found a regular job and was not seeing guys anymore.
Old age has been getting to me. There are a handful of photos of girls I have (all of whom I only saw once) whose names and details about them have gotten fuzzy on me. After I had my vehicle busted into at a rather nice hotel in Chicago (they have more crooks ther than any other city I have ever been to) and my nice 35mm camera stolen, I resorted to using the throw away cameras for everything, of which I have lost a few of them along the way. Once gave one to a girl I had taken a bunch of pics with the camera since she decided she did not want naked pics of her floating around and offered to give me $10 more than I had given her for the camera (all the pics on it were of her). I would advise anyone else who is thinking of starting to take pics to use them since if it is stolen you are only out a few $$. There have been a few times when I have found an older camera lying around and when I get the film back am surprised at how cute a girl was that I had forgotten about or looked at the picture and said to myself have no clue who she is or where I found her. This is one of them.
It was developed at the same time as the one of Shelby was (Nov 04), I am half thinking that it is her since I recall taking a couple of pics of her one that was "G" rated, this one and another that was not- already been posted. I am thinking this might be the girl who identified herslef as Shelby. She looks a bit like I remember her but since I was not 100% positive, I did not scan it or post it with the other one. Now that someone has brought her up I scanned ir and figured by posting it now I can see if anyone recognises her as Shelby (or Shelly or Michelle) or not her and as someone else, whose name I have forgotten - please enlighten me here if you know who she is. I am not even certain this is a girl I met in Rockford.
College Monger
02-16-06, 17:48
Dead - Since my bad experience at the Lingerie Shop. I only went out looking once, about a week ago. I'm working an average of 25 hours a week, along with being full time student and having an almost 3 hour commute between work and school I have little time left for fun things. My one excursion through the pick up area did not last long. More LEO than girls out and the girls who were out were too unattractive for my tastes. Saw a girl that looked a bit like a much older Lisa from Ralph's pics on Broadway. She looked about ten years older than in the pictures so it appears these girls age much more rapidly than normal gals. There were also a few girls out who always seem to be out and I have never seen picked up, all of them were way old and / or unattractive.
Bad Thing - A day or two later I discovered that I had picked something undesirable up from one of the fine young women of Rockford. No idea which one gave it to me but wound up with lice in the groin. Beware, a rubber offers no protection from them. Luckily this is easily taken care of, wound up shaving myself down there and applying a special lice killing soap (available at Wal Mart off the shelf). Since lice make eggs on hair one needs to do this again after two weeks since the soap does not kill the eggs.
This has scared me a bit and I have taken a sabbatical from picking up girls. This will last at least until after I return from the trip to Russia, maybe forever if I wind up finding a girl there I decide to bring home and keep. Until then I need to stop wasting money on things like Rockford girls since the trip to Russia will cost about $3K. My parents are not paying for the trip, directly at least, dad does sign the paycheck at work.
Shelby? Michelle? Shelly? Shelley? - The second girl I picked up in Rockford said her name was Shelly. I think she may have been missing a finger tip but it was not something I paid a lot of attention to. World Wise seems to think this may be the girl Sv Guy is looking for. World Wise sent me a PM asking about my experience with her after my first report so I have no doubt he knows Shelly. When I met her she was working as a prostitute, so not sure why he says she is not, unless she has quit. I saw her once. I used to live near Stillman Valley, thought I recognized Shelly when I picked her up and that she was using a faux name. Her real name might be Theresa. If it is her she would have graduated from HS in 1998 give or take a year, four years earlier than World Wise says Shelly did. I have an idea about her but have to ask my big brother some questions to confirm it.
Looking at Ralph's recent pictures I am 100% certain the last two girls whose faces were shown is not the Shelly I picked up. I am about 99% certain the picture of Ralph in action with Shelby is the Shelly that I picked up. Despite not seeing her face, I say this since recall she had multi colored bands on her right wrist. They were tattoos although at first I thought she was wearing lots of those colored bracelets all in a row. I have no idea if she is the Michelle that Sv Guy is searching for. Wish you luck in your search Guy!
Pictures- I enjoy looking at the pictures and reading the postings. I know for several months I just read the postings, not being a member and was unable to see pictures. I learned a lot from the postings and appreciate the info and advice. Going back and looking at old pictures I have seen 4 girls I have been with. One taken by Member 1376, one by Master Monger and two by Ralph- thanks guys! Since I was contributing nothing I felt that after while I should give something back and report on my experiences. I hope someone has found my postings useful and / or interesting. I took pictures with my cell phone of one girl I picked up. After that I have the phone somewhere it cant be stolen, so I took no more. I now know this girl is dead, this still freaks me out. Out of respect for her putting her pictures online would not be the proper thing to do at this point in time. Seeing how many guys are looking at the pictures and then seeing the number of postings it is apparent that there are far more guys who are like I used to be. Come on lurkers contribute something. If not pictures then postings, if only 1% of those who looked at the pictures posted here yesterday also did a report there would be 10+ more reports here now.
LordBlackAdder
02-17-06, 01:04
Been a lurker here for a few months. Last fall I made what turned out to be a big mistake in offering a young woman a ride in Rockford. She turned out to be a streetwalker. Wound up dating her a few times and falling for her, despite bells and whistles going off all around me warning me it was a dumb thing to do. Found this site while doing searches for advice on how to handle the situation I found myself in. Did not sign up to see the pictures but decided to now since it appeared as if the young lady in question has recently had her picture posted here, she had been mentioned by a few members. So wanted to see if the picture was of her.
I started writing a rather lengthy report on my ordeal that is not yet finished. I may wind up posting it at some point along with a fair number of pictures I took of her, although it appears one can only use ten. Suffice to say "Pretty Woman" was a fantasy and despite what the girls you meet say they really like what they are doing and have no desire to stop.
Also Careena Collins was in the area a few years back. I met her and got her autograph- attaching a scan of it. It was personalized to me and I blotted out my name. Not saying she was out on the street hoping to be picked up.
Ci-Traveler
02-17-06, 10:51
Ci Traveler,
If you don't like Ralph's post and think its a waste of time, you are free to skip them and don't read and respond.
Scrolling past a post you don't like takes a hell of a lot less time than whining about posts and pics you don't like.
Yeah - but sometimes it feels better to "whine." Or maybe report is a better adjective. Depnedns on your point of view.
Your post reminds me of the Lefty followers. Cattle - all of 'em. He was a fake - probably some dude in prison making it all up - and he had that crowd so riled up they just couldn't get enough. He hasn't posted since the board was moved - but I think he was probably killed off somewhere - someone found him - was tired of his BS and attitude and eliminated the problem.
When someone posts a pic of a porn queen and says he did her as a SW - you gotta wonder. But then - it's sometimes easier just to pretend it did happen. The only good looking girls Ralph has seen are the ones he imagined. But if you enjoy pretending and reading about it - and you want to fantasize - go ahead! But - there are some of us who grow tired of the misuse of the board. That's all.........
Who is taking time to "whine" now? You would think with a whopping 6 posts to your credit, 16% of them wouldn't be devoted to lecturing someone. Geez.
ci-traveler
You know, Traveler, I kind of miss Lefty. With all his b.s. and fantasy stuff, he was entertaining reading. Ralph, on the other hand, is rather boring.
I agree that if you don't want to read his novels, then don't. But I srill think it's a waste of this boards space. He had a few of us hooked on his Angel story, but even that got old.
I think there are more important things happening around the region that should be talked about here. Not whether Lefty, oh excuse me, Ralph really did meet that SW 3 years ago. Just my humble opinion.
DJ
When someone posts a pic of a porn queen and says he did her as a SW - you gotta wonder. But then - it's sometimes easier just to pretend it did happen. The only good looking girls Ralph has seen are the ones he imagined. But if you enjoy pretending and reading about it - and you want to fantasize - go ahead! But - there are some of us who grow tired of the misuse of the board. That's all........I agree. Ralph actually had me convinced for a while. Then he posted what I knew was a fake pic. Then he showed up on the Louisville board and that teed me off.
The thing about someone giving fake reports is if you are taken in by it you can rely on that information and waste a lot of time and money. I knew about Ralph before he posted on the Louisville board so I wasn't taken in by it. But if I didn't know about him, I would've wasted a few nights cruising around Oak Street. Now that may seem funny to some, but not to me. I don't come on the boards for pulpfiction. I use this place to get info on towns I am familiar with. Evansville, Louisville, Indy, Bloomington, St. Louis, Cincy and Tampa. Other towns I get kind of curious about, and of course you see some of the pics and get curious about a thread.
People like Ralph and others that put up fantasies are not just harmless. They're harmless once you know about them. By why add an unnessecary learning curve?
Ci-Traveler
02-19-06, 11:58
You know, Traveler, I kind of miss Lefty. With all his b.s. and fantasy stuff, he was entertaining reading. Ralph, on the other hand, is rather boring.
I agree that if you don't want to read his novels, then don't. But I srill think it's a waste of this boards space. He had a few of us hooked on his Angel story, but even that got old.
I think there are more important things happening around the region that should be talked about here. Not whether Lefty, oh excuse me, Ralph really did meet that SW 3 years ago. Just my humble opinion.
DJ
Well - I hate to agree - but I did enjoy reading Lefty sometimes. He had a pretty good turn with the word. However - whenever he deliciously described raping a girl - it never entertained me - I always thought it was just downright cruel. He used to explain it away as part of the session and expectation of SWs - that they had to put up with that stuff because it goes with the trade. I never could agree with that. As a result - I grew tired and upset that he would continue to rile up a group of people in such a way. Who knows what damage he caused? On the other hand - maybe nothing came of all of it..........
You are correct about Ralph - boring - unless he posts a fake pic. Actually, there might be a more accurate reason why Ralph posts. He may want to increase the number of posts he has made - at everyone else's expense.
Not complaining here guys - I know many people enjoy Ralph's dribble. I'm just thinking out loud.
ci-traveler
Sv Guy 2002
02-19-06, 21:33
Sounds like World Wise may have properly Ided Michelle.
The pictures that Ralph posted shere one can ID the girl are not her, unless she has changed quite a bit.
I do not know about the one of him screwing Shelby. although it could be her.
What is PM?
Since I am not actively seeking out prostitutes I am not someone who is likely to have lots of reports. I am seeking info on a girl, I once knew who may be working as one. Still hope she is not.
Discovered cant call her folks to ask anything about her one way or another since i do not have their number and it is unlisted unless they have moved out of our home town.
Thank you .
I know Shelly well. Has a short left ring finger, birthday 7/27, and grad. Stillman Valley in 2002. She is not working as a prost to my knowledge. PM me for more details.
t
CadillacJack
02-19-06, 22:11
[QUOTE=Ci-Traveler]
You are correct about Ralph - boring -
You are absolutely correct. Ralph posts just to drive up his number. Ever notice that all his picks are from 2-3 yrs. ago? It's pathetic.
I don't know the truth about Ralph and his stories, but I do know that Ralph has access to more photos of questionably unattractive half naked girls in cars and hotel rooms than anyone I know. And I'm not sure how he got them all developed without a digital camera, because Photomart will confiscate photos of pussys.
I don't know the truth about Ralph and his stories, but I do know that Ralph has access to more photos of questionably unattractive half naked girls in cars and hotel rooms than anyone I know. And I'm not sure how he got them all developed without a digital camera, because Photomart will confiscate photos of pussys.Well, I have to apologize. I was confusing Ralph for Dr Diiver. I don't know that I was ever bothered by any of Ralph's postings.
Mister Quick
02-20-06, 11:11
I need to find something else to do to take up my time, this hobby gets frustrating, wasteful of time and money.
Was bored this weekend and decided to head up to Rfd looking for some fun. Cruised around awhile and saw no girls out. Should have thought a bit more before making the trek that it was way to cold for anyone to want to be outside.
Decided to venture beyond the areas that I was normally looking and went west of Kishwaukee St. Luck appeared to be taking a change for the better, heading west on 5th Ave about a block west of Kishwaukee, I saw a girl who looked like Biker Chic Jenny whose company I enjoyed a couple of times last year leaving a big orange house on the south side of the street. She started walking east. Did not want to stop and block traffic so I went around the block but by the time I got back around she was nowhere to be seen, so someone else got her. After cruising around for about an hour I decided to take a dinner break.
Returned to cruising. Still almost dead saw one girl out on Broadway around 8th who from a distance looked OK. Stopped to talk to her and saw that she had a face that was about 90% makeup and even with it looked like she is older than my mother. Not that desperate left her for someone else.
Did go back around the area that I saw Jenny before and noticed at the same orange house another young woman getting out of a vehicle and running up to the house. She was short, blonde and dressed in black. Did not get a real good look at her but she might have been the cutie in orange pants that someone else got before I did last year. Thinking this place might be a crack house where the girls go for their fix after a successful date I circled the block a couple of times but the blonde girl did not come back outside. Might check this area again if I come back to town when it is warmer outside.
Having now wasted lots of time and gas I headed home. On the way out of town luck changed again. Across from the Citco station I saw a young woman talking on the pay phone who waved at me as I passed. Wound up picking her up. She IDed herself as Tanya, short dark curly hair, white fairly attractive. She told me she was 22 and looked it. Tanya was real cold and was hoping to warm up. Told me she had no place to stay for the night and was $20 shy of enough money for a hotel room for the night and was hoping I would help her out. Was told in exchange for helping her out we cold have some fun and warm up together. She directed me to a rather run down place south of US 20 on 11st st. I gave her the $20 and she went into the office and got the room.
We went to the room and she said she need another $5 since she had called her drug dealer form the office and he would be stopping by to sell her her fix. We would have to wait until after he left for the fun to begin. Reluctantly gave it to her and we waited around. About 10 minutes later a car pulls up, she had left the door open so her friend could find the room. Made it real cold. Tanya runs out gets in the car and takes off. Been ripped off again, but not real sure the whole point of it all since after paying for the room all she got was $5 and it seemed to me to be a lot of effort for that little money. Waited around a few minutes just in case she was coming back but she did not. She had brought a bag of stuff with her into the room- nothing of any real value. I took it and the key she left in the room and locked the door. Threw the key between the screen door and the wood door of the next room- motel owner should not have to suffer for her. Then took her crap, a notebook with names and phone numbers in it, some clothes, personal hygene items and some cigarettes with me. I would venture to guess they will cost her more than $25 to replace. I left them in the trash can at a gas station in Rochelle.
So beware if you find this one she will rip you off. Second time it happened to me. At least this time was not out that much money adn will not have to get new DL and credit cards. I try to only screw up the same way once. Not certain how to avoid this type of thing from happening again, any advice?
Not all of Ralph's pictures are fake. The girl he IDed as Ursala a few weeks ago is the same one I picked up and told me her name was Candy. I also posted my one and only picture on this forum of her, but cut her face out of it. There are many girls I have seen out who are far uglier than the least attractive one that Ralph has posted.
I have had no problems getting the pictures developed at Wal Mart. Never thought there would have been since before my wife died they had developed pictures of us of the X-rated variety with no problems.
Who is Lefty?
Mr. Quick...nice review, glad you were open and honest with things.
I would have been VERY tempted to keet the girl's phone book, esp. for other girl's names...or just some fun calls, or hell, sell it on eBay.
The last few times I've been to Rockford, thank God on the way to or from somewhere, it looked like LE had really succeeded in their holy mission. Maybe hope will spring along with Spring.
Lefty is a guy on the Milwaukee board, who coincidentally was the subject of CI-Traveler's harassment. Lefty, like Ralph, had a sense of creativity, which unfortunately got a little off track with some rape talk and some rather compulsive anal action, usually against the young and unwilling.
Like Ralph, Lefty had his amusement value. I just figured that if there weren't hoes on the street, that someone could make up all the stories in the world and it wouldn't really impact me. What is is what is.
Lefty eventually disappeared. Nearly every one of CI-Travelers' posts are some rant against something he doesn't like about someone's posts, again, no useful content....so how is this different than what he complains about.
HHH
Well, I have to apologize. I was confusing Ralph for Dr Diiver. I don't know that I was ever bothered by any of Ralph's postings.
Apology acceepted. had read your first post and was wondering what you were talking about since I have not been to Louisville sicne I was a small child and had not posted any reports in that area. Even wound up doing a search to see if somehow someone else was using my name. A few weeks ago someone else had claimed I had been posting in several other areas of the country where I had not.
I don't know the truth about Ralph and his stories, but I do know that Ralph has access to more photos of questionably unattractive half naked girls in cars and hotel rooms than anyone I know. And I'm not sure how he got them all developed without a digital camera, because Photomart will confiscate photos of pussys.
I have taken all the pictures I have posted (save one). The stories as to the best of my recolelction are ture, I may have gotten some of the details off in terms of dates. As I said when i first started posting pictures, I am going through an archive that goes back to about 1996. although I am not out looking for girls anymore I still find some of the stories here interesting and sometimes hear about someone I once met. Some of these girls are still out there, as evidenceed by a fair number of posters who saythey recognize the girl. I do not have all taht many left so at some point those of you who like to complain will have to find someone else to complain about while those of you who like looking at pictures will have to find someone else to take and post them.
Over the years I have discovered that there are some places that will develop pictures of naked girls and other that will not. The places that will not get my business once, I have lost a fair number of rolls of film that way. First time that happened was at a one hour photo place. The guy said he was not letting me have the pictures back because they looked like the girl was still in high school. She was with me and said that she was in high school. Neither of us had any idea they might not want to develop the pictures. It was of my childhood sweetheart, we were both 17 at the time.
Chief_Wiggum
02-20-06, 17:01
As I've noted before, at least one of Ralph's photos are true. Some of them look vaguely familiar. I hunt more than I post, but most of the girls aren't worth writing home about. The girls shown by Ralph's photos are about true of the quality of RFD talent out there. For real, the talent is a bit better, and really good the last time I went out (November?). Overall, it's not that great. It used to be as good as the lingerie shops when all four of them were open, tending towards Exclusive, even though the talent wasn't as old.
Lefty was a mysoginist. He used to post on the MW board. I hated his posts. Talk about rambling! And, they all had this violent undertone. If I knew who he was IRL, I would've beat his ass down. It's guys like him who encourage girls to give bad service.
Apology acceepted. had read your first post and was wondering what you were talking about since I have not been to Louisville sicne I was a small child and had not posted any reports in that area. Even wound up doing a search to see if somehow someone else was using my name. A few weeks ago someone else had claimed I had been posting in several other areas of the country where I had not.
I have taken all the pictures I have posted (save one). The stories as to the best of my recolelction are ture, I may have gotten some of the details off in terms of dates. As I said when i first started posting pictures, I am going through an archive that goes back to about 1996. although I am not out looking for girls anymore I still find some of the stories here interesting and sometimes hear about someone I once met. Some of these girls are still out there, as evidenceed by a fair number of posters who saythey recognize the girl. I do not have all taht many left so at some point those of you who like to complain will have to find someone else to complain about while those of you who like looking at pictures will have to find someone else to take and post them.
Over the years I have discovered that there are some places that will develop pictures of naked girls and other that will not. The places that will not get my business once, I have lost a fair number of rolls of film that way. First time that happened was at a one hour photo place. The guy said he was not letting me have the pictures back because they looked like the girl was still in high school. She was with me and said that she was in high school. Neither of us had any idea they might not want to develop the pictures. It was of my childhood sweetheart, we were both 17 at the time.Someone is useing the name 'Ralphed' I thought it was 'Ralph' but its not...
Ci-Traveler
02-21-06, 09:48
Lefty is a guy on the Milwaukee board, who coincidentally was the subject of CI-Traveler's harassment. Lefty, like Ralph, had a sense of creativity, which unfortunately got a little off track with some rape talk and some rather compulsive anal action, usually against the young and unwilling.
Like Ralph, Lefty had his amusement value. I just figured that if there weren't hoes on the street, that someone could make up all the stories in the world and it wouldn't really impact me. What is is what is.
Lefty eventually disappeared. Nearly every one of CI-Travelers' posts are some rant against something he doesn't like about someone's posts, again, no useful content....so how is this different than what he complains about.
HHH
You just gotta love a guy who can be proven wrong.
Read the 344 plus posts the board credits me for. Of those (if you choose to take the time) are reports - accurate, detailed, and helpful. HHH should probably take time to do some homework before he gets on his soapbox.
Now that you have a partial, incomplete, and (therefore) misleading description of Lefty - I suggest you go to the Milwaukee board and read what he wrote (if you can still get the postings - I haven't visted that site in awhile). Lefty described brutal sex against a person's will, forced anal sex against a person's will, headlocks and other manner of bondage against a person's will, and a very detailed loathing of SW (women in general). He described himself as somewhat pitiful - which helped to ally sympathetic but somewhat weaker followers (cattle) in attempts to mimick his descriptions. There were a significant number of people who enjoyed reading his fiction - primarily because he described things that most men would never do - thus, they were turned on by the brutality of his stories. Any average, licensed psychologist will tell you that a person who can be annonymous will share their own fantasies without fear - and will sometimes (most often) embellish. The cattle (of which HHH apparently is one) often chimed in about leaving Lefty alone - that he was entertaining. There were also a significant number of posts from lots of different people who complained about Lefty - so I am not alone in my disgust of him and what his actions do to the rest of the hobby.
I don't mind if HHH tries a little backdoor stab. Everyone must define their own idea of civility in their own life. However - a rant is not necessarily a rant if the discussion of a person is negative - based on that own person's description of something that is unacceptable to the majority of people on the board. Given that the majority of the world doesn't like what is written on this board - I feel fairly confident that the majority of the board that didn't like Lefty significantly supports the notion that his actions were fairly disgusting - even for a hobbyist.
Not a rant - just a report.
Thanks for bringing it up HHH.
ci-traveler
Mister Quick
02-21-06, 11:04
Lefty was a mysoginist. He used to post on the MW board. I hated his posts. Talk about rambling! And, they all had this violent undertone. If I knew who he was IRL, I would've beat his ass down. It's guys like him who encourage girls to give bad service.
I am taking a wild guess that Lefty is Looking for Lefty. Read some stuff in Milwaukee, plus he even had a visit to Rockford. He did not seem like a very nice person, although his reports do have the ability to make one want to read more of them. Sort of like slowing down to see an accident along the expressway. Looked like many people missed him when he ran out of ideas.
This is one that probably is better to die off.
I simply saw the same pattern emerging again. I don't think anyone really condoned Lefty's behavior in Milwaukee, but he was so obviously fictional that it had an amusing "paperback" quality to it. Perhaps the same with Ralph, but I'd say to a lesser degree.
I think I took exception to what I perceived to be a persistent jab at Lefty, and I felt it was off point for the group, and not in the spirit of things - - not that rape, headlocks etc. are, but it seemed bullying against someone who was observably pathetic. Ditto here a bit, I think. While the whole "hoe" scene is a bit sad, the group seems to make light of the adversity and share the joy of finds, and deals smoothly with a little fiction. I recommend it.
I guess I don't track your posts for content, but before they were unremarkable. Maybe you are turned into a true hunter, and if so, congratulations. I don't mean to be really unfriendly, and if you are a contributor, I'd gladly share finds with you. If not, well, then not.
I'll wish you well and look forward to reading of your productive exploits in the future.
HHH
Turkey John
02-22-06, 12:17
Met Jodi last night in Rockford 1 block north of Broadway. She told me she worked at Exclusive LS but business had been slow since the doors had to be removed from the rooms. Was not making any $$ there so is now on the street. Pretty nice face and titts. Bit of a tummy and stretch marks. She told me she is a 40 year old grandmother of three. Went to a small apartment where she said she lived and did a catch and release in the bedroom. I don't think she lived there due to the fact that she later told me she was homeless. Probably gave the guy who lived there some $$ for rent and back on the street.
World Wise
02-22-06, 16:00
TJ, I have known Jodi for years. Glad to hear she is still operating. She has worked at Execu for several years, but has always suplemented her income on the streets. I usually find her on 6th or 7 the Ave, west of 7th street. I have met her son, who must be 22 or 23 and has two kids. Jodi holds her age well, and is an honest provider. Used to live on Reagen Street, across from the Swedesh Hosp on east State, but may be homeless now, in fact.
Met Jodi last night in Rockford 1 block north of Broadway. She told me she worked at Exclusive LS but business had been slow since the doors had to be removed from the rooms. Was not making any $$ there so is now on the street. Pretty nice face and titts. Bit of a tummy and stretch marks. She told me she is a 40 year old grandmother of three. Went to a small apartment where she said she lived and did a catch and release in the bedroom. I don't think she lived there due to the fact that she later told me she was homeless. Probably gave the guy who lived there some $$ for rent and back on the street.
I posted a couple of pics of her about a month ago. Do not think anyone accused them of being fake, at least not yet. Glad to hear she is still alive and with us. Jodi is her real name, carrie one she used at the LS shop, since they make the girls use faux names. as far as I know she had not worked there for a long time, about when they took doors out. Here are a couple more pics taken about the same time. Has the crack diet been keeping her slimmed down? Last time I saw her many months after the pics were taken she had lost at least 40 pounds from drug use. They should start marketing that as a diet aid.
Ci-Traveler
02-22-06, 19:21
I guess I don't track your posts for content, but before they were unremarkable. Maybe you are turned into a true hunter, and if so, congratulations. I don't mean to be really unfriendly, and if you are a contributor, I'd gladly share finds with you. If not, well, then not.
I'll wish you well and look forward to reading of your productive exploits in the future.
HHH
HHH - I don't think we disagree very much at all.
Regarding the hunter thing.......
Most of my postings have to do with Central Illinios - as that is the main area I travel on a weekly basis. Peoria, Decatur, Bloomington, and occasionally Champaign - are the most frequent postings. I have a very large number of posts with regard to information of who, what, where, how much, if it was any good - as well as a few alerts for when I've been ripped off (very rare - but has happened). I'm happy to share any and all if you are ever coming down this way.
Lately I've had to resort to AMPs because the SW scenes in all of those towns are much lighter and frustrating than they used to be. But - such is the way of this hobby.
ci-traveler
Tony Sop II
02-23-06, 02:15
I am looking for any info on a dancer that used to be at the bigfoot by the name of renee. Little blonde cute face
If anyone does have a rant that they want to share, could they pm
it to the person that they want to rant at? Like most people in here,
I would prefer to here about the ACTIVITY, if there is any. If you want
to talk about how that Ho ranted because you only gave her 50 cents,
then THAT would be ok.
Somone posted earlier about the Lingerie shops only doing the hj. Does
anyone know or had any experience with THAT lately? I haven't been
out and about lately but Mr. Johnson says that he would like to take
a ride.
Turkey John
02-23-06, 12:15
I posted a couple of pics of her about a month ago. Do not think anyone accused them of being fake, at least not yet. Glad to hear she is still alive and with us. Jodi is her real name, carrie one she used at the LS shop, since they make the girls use faux names. as far as I know she had not worked there for a long time, about when they took doors out. Here are a couple more pics taken about the same time. Has the crack diet been keeping her slimmed down? Last time I saw her many months after the pics were taken she had lost at least 40 pounds from drug use. They should start marketing that as a diet aid.
She has lost weight since your photos were taken. probably about 40 lbs.
Your best bet with the LS is to establish a relationship with a girl and become a regular. You probably need to go back 2 or 3 times and also pay for the full hour before you get the full menu to choose from. This has been my experience at Chantilly anyway. The no door deal is a little different, but they put a screen in front. I only went to Exclusive once and most of them were butt ugly.
LordBlackAdder
02-23-06, 13:48
Found this on another website. wish I had read it about 6 months ago. Some usefull inforamtion here.
QUOTE:
First off, in case anyone is harboring any illusions, the girls that walk the streets are all drug addicts, 100%, no doubt about it. We're talking about crack and meth addicts here, with a few heroin junkies thrown in for good measure. Ya know that gal you just passed who was furiously rubbing her arms? Meth addict, probably got the creepy crawlies, where she thinks there's bugs coming out of her skin. That girl walking real fast and looking around everywhere acting paranoid? Crackhead. Despite what these bitches will tell you, and they will come up with all kinds of shit, believe me, they are low-down junkie ******, plain & simple. Get that straight because once you know that, you know what you're up against.
WHAT THEY WANT
These addicts have no interest in sex. They have no interest in you. They have no interest in their kids, families, country, money, or God, all they care about is getting that next bag of dope. I've seen some of these cunts wear the same clothes for a month. They will gladly steal your wallet, stick you in the belly with a knife, cut your cock off, or set you up to be robbed or worse if they think they can scam a few bucks out of the deal to buy some dope. They'd much rather scam you out of your money than suck your cock. So watch your back.
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A CRACK/METH *****
Here's a typical day for a crack/meth *****. Keep in mind that a day to a crack/methhead is 5 days to a week to a non-addict.
- Wake up from your last crack/meth binge feeling like you're dying, and craving dope so bad that all you can think about is getting high.
- Do not shower. Eat whatever is available, unless you're so dopesick that you can't hold down food.
- Go out on the street. Turn a trick with the first comer, no matter how dirty or scummy that person may be.
- Buy some dope from some scumbag dope peddler, get high.
- Repeat last 2 steps for 5-7 days, until you're so wacked out from sleep deprivation that you start seeing things, then you run out of dope and pass out. There will be no food, sleep, or showers during this entire time. Most ****** turn a trick about every hour or so, 15-30 tricks a day, up to 200 in a binge. Yeah, that's $4000. Big business.
- Pass out in a dumspter, some trick's house, or in an alley for 20-36 hours.
- Start back at step one.
- Repeat until dead or in jail.
There is no day and night for crack and meth addicts, only high and looking to get high. Nothing else matters, and I mean NOTHING.
A pretty pathetic existence indeed.
DA RULES
* Addicts are inherent thieves. NEVER leave your wallet unsecured. That means if neither your console or glove-compartment have a lock on them, put your wallet in the trunk or leave it at home and just bring the cash you want to spend and your driver's license with you while cruising. If you have a locking compartment in your car, put it in there and lock it. I once had a girl pull my wallet out of the console, steal all of the cash, and put it back without me even knowing. Another time my wallet was flat out stolen. Those were the only two lessons I needed. Keep it secured or you'll get burned.
* If she smells like a sewer, she probably hasn't bathed since last year. Drop her off. SImilarly, if she's got any visible sores or a rash, or it looks like she's got chickenpos, shes got herpes or syphillis. Don't touch her, just drop her off.
* Put your cash (bills) in separate pockets or in your socks, never keep them together, that way if the **** does manage to find one cash stash, she won't get all your money.
* ALWAYS make sure you're getting a female. There are lots of dudes out there who are crack or meth addicts too, and some of them have actually sunk so low that they go out and dress like women and walk the street. I don't know about you, but no matter how hard a man tries, he still walks like a man, and there are always certain features that are a dead giveaway - adams apples, razor stubble, very hairy legs, unnatural sounding voices, etc. If there's any doubt, just don't stop. Think about this: if these guys are desperate enough to suck your dick for $10, do you think they'd hesitate to rip you off, beat you up, or even kill you for whatever else you might have that can get them some dope? BEWARE!
* NEVER Take a ***** to your house unless you want to wake up with a big knot on your head and all your shit stolen.
* NEVER let the ***** out of your car after you've paid her but before she's done her job. She is NOT coming back, no matter what she tells you, and you WILL get ripped off.
* NEVER drive the ***** to "Get her keys" or "Get her purse", or "Drop something off at her mom's" or whatever other story she comes up with. She's going to get some dope or telling her buddies that she's got a mark and setting you up to be robbed.
* This should go without saying, but unless you like licking cock or eating cum, NEVER kiss or perform oral sex on a *****. Who knows how many cocks have been in that pussy or mouth TODAY or since her last shower.
* NEVER EVER EVER get emotionally involved with a *****. They are hardcore addicts, way past the point of no return. They can't be saved, they can't be changed, they are write-off's to society, and if you make this mistake they will just end up stealing all your shit and leaving you for the dope, just like they left everything else for it. Don't be a chump. They are good for nothing but fucking and sucking.
* Be alert to where the ****** hands are while she's taking care of business. Some of them can go through all of your pockets and evey nook of your vehicle that they can reach without you even knowing it. Keep your valuables at home or lock them up.
* NEVER deal with a pimp. Fuck those chump-ass bitches. There are plenty of freelancers around. Pimps are shithead scumbags who exploit, beat, and kill women, as well as entice young girls and get them hooked on hard drugs. If I had my way, I'd make it legal to shoot pimps on sight.
* Get yours and drop the ***** off. If you want to drive some fucked up **** all over town, that's fine, but you're wasting your time. Let some other chump be her taxi.
* If the ***** is rambling incoherently, drifting in and out of consciousness, or generally acting very strangely, just let her out, she's either so high as to be a possible danger to you, or she's jonesin for a fix so hard that she's probably trying to figure out a way to rob you as quickly as possible because she doesn't want to wait for the job to be done, she needs her dope NOW!!!
* If she looks like she's 12 years old, she probably is. Stay away from it, unless you really want to take the chance on going to prison for 20 years or more. The really young ones are the most dangerous ones anyways, they don't value human life or know right or wrong. Throw drugs into the equation, and you have a potential volatile and dangerous situation.
* Don't believe a word these bitches say. They are all liars and will play you like a fiddle of you let them. Some common stories to try and get more money are "My rent is due tomorrow, and me & my 10 kids are going to get thrown out if I don't make $100", or "my son died today", or "I was diagnosed with cancer", yada yada yada. It's all bullshit. Again, don't be a chump.
* The cops know who most of the ****** are. If they see you with one in your car, there's a real good chance that you're about to be pulled over. Make the ***** wear her seatbelt. Get off the main strip as soon as possible after picking up a girl, and stay off of it. Don't take her to VP to get a pack of smokes, if that's where she wants to go afterwards, fine, no pre-business stops, and no waiting outside to give her a ride to her dope dealers house.
DO I CARE ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THESE GIRLS?
Now, all of that may make me seem like a *****-hating motherfucker, but I'm just telling you the facts. I do have some sympathy for these girls and their situations, but it was their choices that put them where they are, and it is not my (or your) problem. Some of these ****** may genuinely be nice, kind, reasonable human beings with great personalities, but at the moment they are hardciore addicts, and there's nothing you can do to help them. Just do your business and don't get involved. Yes, they are human beings with feelings and emotions, and who deserve to live and be happy. Unfortunately they made the choice to live that life and we are not here to save them. If the police and government wanted to help, they'd be down here shoooting all the dope dealers in the head one by one and putting these girls in treatment. That ain't gonna happen, there's too many jobs on the line - cops, judges, lawyers, prisons, bureaucrats. It's all unofficially sanctioned
DO UNTO OTHERS
Don't abuse the girls. Don't hit them. belittle them, or rip them off. Although they have forsaken everything in their lives that made them worth something, and betrayed and stolen from anyone who has ever cared about them, they are still someone's daughter or sister or mom, and although they have fucked up royally, they are human beings and deserve to be treated as such.
Chief_Wiggum
02-23-06, 15:19
Hey, I've seen Carrie before. I forgot when. It was pretty standard procedure when I saw her. It was a while ago, and she was a lot thinner than in your pics Ralph. I didn't get her name then. Looks like the crack diet is a hit.
World Wise
02-23-06, 15:53
LBA,
That is an old sermon from somewhere; it has appeared here before.
It does us all good to read it again, even if it is depressing. A healthy dose of cynicism has value when out mongering.
I've been reading lately the messages from mongers complaining that the streets are empty. No talent around. Well, you just have to look. Unless the weather is exceptionally cold or hot or if it's snowing or raining, the ladies are there. You see, from 7:30 am until after midnight, there is always someone "on duty". It's the code. It's the union rules. Union, you ask? The Fraternal Order of Streetwalkers local 15, based in Rockford. It says that at least one lady must be available to service the community. She may be busy at the time you're cruising, but she'll be back. Sometimes more than one customer service person is available. In that case, you have a choice.
And how do I know all this? I found out from one of Ralphs babes about 5 years ago. Ask Ralph, he'll comfirm this.
Turkey John
02-24-06, 00:24
Your best bet with the LS is to establish a relationship with a girl and become a regular. You probably need to go back 2 or 3 times and also pay for the full hour before you get the full menu to choose from. This has been my experience at Chantilly anyway. The no door deal is a little different, but they put a screen in front. I only went to Exclusive once and most of them were butt ugly.
So you have $600 into the relationship with no guarantees ? No thanks. I'll get a high price escort three times for that .
TJ
If FS is your only objective then a LS, or at least Chantilly, is not the place to go. The problem I have with an escort is that your really do not know what is going to show up at the door. I miss the AMPs, but what are you going to do?
Triax
Chicago Monger
02-26-06, 02:10
It looks like things may be picking up agian. I saw 6 wsw and 2 bsw. They where around 8 th on block north of Broadway and on 12th between 9th and 11th st.
I've been reading lately the messages from mongers complaining that the streets are empty. No talent around. Well, you just have to look. Unless the weather is exceptionally cold or hot or if it's snowing or raining, the ladies are there. You see, from 7:30 am until after midnight, there is always someone "on duty". It's the code. It's the union rules. Union, you ask? The Fraternal Order of Streetwalkers local 15, based in Rockford. It says that at least one lady must be available to service the community. She may be busy at the time you're cruising, but she'll be back. Sometimes more than one customer service person is available. In that case, you have a choice.
And how do I know all this? I found out from one of Ralphs babes about 5 years ago. Ask Ralph, he'll comfirm this.
I have never heard this before. There was more than one occasion when I was in town and found nothing. Which one of my "babes" told you this? Guess that means at least one of them was a real one.
I have come to the conclusion over the years that certain girls one picks up will tell you things that they know are not true. Top few I have discovered were:
1) I am not a drug user.
2) I just started doing this.
3) I am just doing this while I am between jobs.
There are a few more, but right now I cant think of them.
World Wise
02-28-06, 16:20
Was in Rockford and crusing from about 6 to 9 PM. Very little out there worth stopping for, and one of my regulars disappointed me. Saw one on 6th Street near the Sunny Pantry, but looked scary. Two other (one black, one white) on 7th by the VFW.
Really empty on Broadway, both at 7th and east by 9th street. Lower 11th street had some activity near the Town Pump at Harrison, but nothing I was interested in. Like them younger and lighter weight than me, at least!
Later, about 9 did one last cruise and saw a few more, but none worth investing in. Went home lonely but with my $$ still in my pocket. Maybe next time.
Turkey John
03-01-06, 13:27
I was out on Tuesday evening for a few hours. Hardly any activity. Heavy LE presence. Any activity I did see was off in the dark neighborhoods ( not much for lighting back there ). Went home and had to settle for the wife.
LordBlackAdder
03-01-06, 17:13
This is something that I've had a very difficult time writing. It appears as if most of the guys on here would know better to do what I have done. I did not and have not had the best of times because of it. If I can help one other guy avoid the same mistake I made then it was worth my time and effort. I found this website while searching for someplace online that might offer some hints on guys who found themselves in situations like mine, but did not. This one was about as close as I found and really is geared towards finding women not on what to do with them once they are found.
My story starts last September I was in Rockford hoping to hook up with Sidnee (not her real name) a girl I had met online about a month earlier and had seen a couple of times previously. We had made arrangements earlier in the week and she was not at home when I arrived at the appointed time. After waiting around for awhile I set out to find the library to check my email in case she had sent me something indicating a change in plans. That effort proved fruitless so I decided just to wander around town for awhile hoping that one of the messages I had left on both her phones would be answered.
This is when I wound up meeting a young woman who has proven to be both one of the best things to happen to me and the most frustrating at the same time. I first saw her from a distance from which she did look a little bit like Sidnee, I was maybe about 5 or 6 blocks west of Sidnee's apartment and since she waved at me I thought it might be her. I pulled over. I quickly realized that she was not Sidnee, but being a bit annoyed at how the day was going I offered her a ride. She accepted. She told me her name, it is a girl that has been mentioned here more than once in the past. For now I will refer to her as Ann, not her real first name. Ann is a short, blonde girl in her early 20's. She is rather attractive, although at first I was a bit put off by the fact that she has several piercings and many tattoos. Sort of a goth look. When I asked her where she needed to go she told me that she was not really looking for a ride, but she was a prostitute and thought I was looking for a date.
Feeling rather annoyed at having wasted the past 4 or 5 hours waiting around for Sidnee, I decided to take Ann up on her offer. I took her back to my motel. I don't live in Rockford. Was planning on staying in town for the night since I had a business function to attend in Wisconsin the next day. Sidnee and her roommate have a rule about no guys spending the night at their place. I wound up having a very enjoyable time with Ann, spending a couple of hours with her. She was nothing like a girl I would have imagined one would pick up in a situation like this. She was not on drugs, a fact that she is very proud of. From what I gather 99.9% of the girls are addicts. I spent lots of time just talking to her and in a short period of time began to like her. I got an almost immediate feeling that she was someone special, someone worth pursuing a relationship with. This is a feeling I had had upon meeting girls twice in the past. In both those occasions there were talks of marriage that for assorted reasons did not happen. I discovered that Ann was a bit down on her luck. She had lost a regular job, something she was hoping at some point soon to land again and was just doing this in the short term to make ends meet. I got her phone number and made plans to meet up with her again next time I was in town which was later in the month. Getting in touch with her in the interim to reconfirm this proved to be a very daunting task.
I later learned Sidnee had good reason for blowing me off. The day before I got to town she learned she was pregnant and was in the process of trying to figure out what to do with her former boyfriend, a guy she had broken up with about a week before I had met her online. He wanted to get married and have kids. She thought she was too young and called things off. That is the last I heard from her and is no longer a part of this story. I hope things turn out better for her than they have gone for me.
In something that I would later learn was remarkable, Ann was around her place when we had agreed to meet. Wound up again taking her to a motel and when we got there I told her I had not yet figured out exactly what to do with her, she had made quite an impression on me. I told her I had narrowed down my options to two: I should either wind up marrying her or else run away as fast and as far as I can without looking back. She told me I should wait until I know her better before deciding to marry her since she might be too much for me to handle. But also that there was no reason to run from her. That night I spent several hours with her. An evening that proved to be the best sexual experience I have ever had with an American woman. Brought her back to her home and made tentative arrangements to meet up with her again when I was to be through town in a week.
This time Ann was not to be around. Phone calls to her remained unanswered and I decided to spend the night in town. Her roommate I later learned has the habit of not delivering messages. For reasons that at the time I did not know but have since been able to figure out had taken a disliking to me at one point even telling me that I should realize by now that Ann did not want to talk to me. Wandering around town the next day looking or Ann I wound up meeting a girl who turned out to be a friend of Ann's on the street. She offered to relay a message on my behalf.
The next time I was in town I did eventually did wind up finding Ann again out on the street near where I had found her the first time. She seemed real happy to see me again and told me the message I had relayed through her friend had gotten to her. She had lost my phone number, so she was unable to call me back. I told her I had been searching for her for some time and left her several messages, something she said she was unaware of. Ann had not been having a very good time since I had last met her. Some sick bastard had abducted and tortured her. In my opinion guys who do this to a young woman should become feature attractions at meetings of the gay boy butt banging brigade. Ann still had a few bruises from her experience. She was somewhat pressed for time as was I so this encounter had to be brief. She did say that she did want to see me again and to not pay any attention to anything her roommate might say to the contrary. I told her if it was true to let me know and she would not have to see me again.
Ann was proving impossible to reach via the phone by this point. The next time I was through town I met her near by her home more or less by chance. Took her to dinner and spent the evening with her. Some things that she had told me before and continued to let me know were that she really did want to stop doing what she was since she hated it. She had met more than her share of assholes along the way. She also really wanted to go back and finish college. She could not turn to her parents for help since they were having financial difficulties. The only reason she was out walking the street was that she had no other choice. Despite the fact that she could either end up arrested (not good to have on your job resume, if looking for a job later), tortured again or worse yet dead. I decided to give her a choice.
I know from first hand observation that Ann's lifestyle can really screw up a young woman' life. Several years ago I was dating Sue (again not her real first name) who was a college student. Our relationship was not real serious. Sue's mother died unexpectedly in a traffic accident a few days after I saw Sue for what I did not know at the time would be the very last time. After the accident Sue's stepfather cut her off and she was denied any of her inheritance. They never got along. He tolerated her since he had to when he married her mother, but treated her four younger half siblings much better than he did her. They were his kids, she was her mom's illegitimate daughter, born when her mother was only 15. I learned about the death of Sue's mother from one of her friends about a month after she died and Sue had stopped going to classes. I had taken off to Florida fro a couple of weeks. When I returned I was unable to reach Sue by phone either at school or her parents home. Messages left at her mom's house went unanswered and thus had no idea what was transpiring. I stopped by her parent's home and her stepfather told me she was not around, he had no idea where she was and threatened bodily harm should I come by again. Her mother liked me more than he did. A couple days after that, I received a call from Sue's aunt. She told me that Sue was staying with her cousins and that it would be really good for her if I went to see her. Sue did not deal with her mom's death very well. She dropped out of school and decided to take comfort through the joys of smoking crack. This in turn caused her to loose her part time job and turn to prostitution to support her habit. The first time I made it to her cousin's home I was shocked to learn what had happened, and tried finding her to no avail. It turns out they were druggies also, her mother once said they were a bad influence on her. Next time I stopped by was a few days after Sue was arrested not only for drugs and prostitution but as an accomplice to armed robbery. From what I was able to ascertain, Sue's dope dealer used a gun to obtain more money from one of her dates who he felt had not been generous enough with her. All three were arrested, the date who had been seriously injured in the incident figured it was worth implicating himself in a misdemeanor to get Sue and her drug dealer off the street. Although it has now been several years, last I was able to find out anything about her Sue was awaiting successful completion of a drug treatment programme. When that was done she would go to trial on the prostitution and robbery charges. Thus in a very short period of time (a couple months) a young woman really screwed up her life, going from college student with a promising future to at best a reformed prostitute / drug addict.
By now I had grown very fond of Ann. From the way she acted I thought the feeling was mutual. I thus offered her a choice and told her she could move in with me giving her the opportunity to straighten her life out. The way I figured it worse case scenario would be I'd be out some money, something that is easily replaced. But if I did I did nothing and she was killed (like she fears a friend of hers who had gone missing might be) there would be nothing I could do with any amount of money to bring her back. I would be haunted with the memory for the rest of my life that I could have prevented it but did nothing.
This story is not over. It is becoming increasingly difficult for me to write have been working on it for several weeks now, so I will stop for now.
This story is not over. It is becoming increasingly difficult for me to write have been working on it for several weeks now, so I will stop for now.[/QUOTE]
That's ok, you need not proceed with this story. Perhaps you should
marry that hooker that you just met, live happily ever after, then you
won't have to go through the aggravation of posting here anymore :)
[QUOTE=Lordblackadder]This is something that I've had a very difficult time writing.
No need to continue. The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
If you need to get it off your chest talk to a friend, go to church or watch the Dr. Phil show.
Man I thought LFL was bad.
YM
Yeah, someone else gets complained about besides me. Calsl for some more old pictures to get uploaded.
This one is Lindsay met her once, bit better looking than most of the girls one finds on the streets. Was rather cold out and she was wearing way too little for the weather so offered her a ride and took her to the local no tell for some fun. Told me it was her first time doing this, not a statement one is inclined to believe, although she did not talk about money until after we had finsihed and I was driving her back to where I found her (around 8th and Broadway). She acted like she was not interested in any money but said she should probably take some. Told her would like to see her again and tried to get a phone number. She however was unwilling to give me one since she said she was a bit of a slu... and her husband did not know what she was doing, although I did get the distinct impression that they were not on the best of terms. After dropping her out headed out of tonw on 11thSt she drove by me honked and waved, what really surprised me is that she wass driving a Corvette that could not have been more than a couple of years old, not the type of thing a SW normally drives. Never saw her again.
Member #4513
03-02-06, 13:57
Sound like a little **** just out being one :) Yummy those are the best!!
Yeah, someone else gets complained about besides me. Calsl for some more old pictures to get uploaded.
This one is Lindsay met her once, bit better looking than most of the girls one finds on the streets. Was rather cold out and she was wearing way too little for the weather so offered her a ride and took her to the local no tell for some fun. Told me it was her first time doing this, not a statement one is inclined to believe, although she did not talk about money until after we had finsihed and I was driving her back to where I found her (around 8th and Broadway). She acted like she was not interested in any money but said she should probably take some. Told her would like to see her again and tried to get a phone number. She however was unwilling to give me one since she said she was a bit of a slu... and her husband did not know what she was doing, although I did get the distinct impression that they were not on the best of terms. After dropping her out headed out of tonw on 11thSt she drove by me honked and waved, what really surprised me is that she wass driving a Corvette that could not have been more than a couple of years old, not the type of thing a SW normally drives. Never saw her again.
Sounds like one of those "Penthouse Letter's" moments that we ALL dream about happening to us. Maybe just a bored housewife with a jerk of a husband looking for a "good time". WAY TO GO!
Yeah, someone else gets complained about besides me. Calsl for some more old pictures to get uploaded.
This one is Lindsay met her once, bit better looking than most of the girls one finds on the streets. Was rather cold out and she was wearing way too little for the weather so offered her a ride and took her to the local no tell for some fun. Told me it was her first time doing this, not a statement one is inclined to believe, although she did not talk about money until after we had finsihed and I was driving her back to where I found her (around 8th and Broadway). She acted like she was not interested in any money but said she should probably take some. Told her would like to see her again and tried to get a phone number. She however was unwilling to give me one since she said she was a bit of a slu... and her husband did not know what she was doing, although I did get the distinct impression that they were not on the best of terms. After dropping her out headed out of tonw on 11thSt she drove by me honked and waved, what really surprised me is that she wass driving a Corvette that could not have been more than a couple of years old, not the type of thing a SW normally drives. Never saw her again.
Not worked up enough courage to go to a LS shop yet. Cost is not always a big factor just a paranoid attitude on my part. I was thinking more onlong the lines of them recording things with cameras or audio tape. I read on hear about a place south of here that does.
First off - what's up. Been a while since I've posted and/or been up to Rockford.
Hey CM - good to see new blood up here. Sounds like you're a lucky guy with some available cash. Sweet. I'd HIGHLY recommend the LS shops over the street scene. More expensive, and a bit grungy, but you won't get the Nevada style ***** house linup on the street! If you ask me that's part of the thrill.
I've thought about that issue as well - getting recorded and what not - but in the end I say fuck it. I'm single with no kids. So I really don't give a fuck.
....anyway, as I said, haven't been up to the Rock in a while. Been close to home, but I'm craving a little Exclusive and Chantilly fun. Anyone been there recently? Should I expect the same consistancy that's been there for the past 6 years? Or have things changed....geez, it feels like I haven't paid a visit in forever.
Stay safe. Peace out my brothers.
By the way Blackadder.....falling in love with whor* stories goes in another section.
Wow Ralph, She looks pretty good..Drives a Vet...and you could have
gotten it for free. I think if she's still out there somewhere, Blackadder
better start carrying an engagement ring with him :)
College Monger
03-03-06, 16:08
Not been in town looking at all, nor even checking the postings here since I was last on. Does not appear as if many of you have been getting lucky. Crab lice thingies have gone away, but don't want to do a repeat performance of them or something worse. Leaving for Moscow in about a week now a bit excited about it all. Should help with Russian seeing as how don't get much chance to practice around here with someone who does not also speak English. Hope to do some tourist type stuff while we are there besides doing the meet the potential Russian bride routine. Although we would not object to finding a pair of young ladies to show us the sights during the day and have some fun at night. If things go well there I won't be cruising the streets of Rockford to get laid anymore. Although there does appear to be a ton of paper work if you want to actually bring one of these girls over here and marry her.
Hey CM - good to see new blood up here. Sounds like you're a lucky guy with some available cash. Sweet. I'd HIGHLY recommend the LS shops over the street scene. More expensive, and a bit grungy, but you won't get the Nevada style ***** house linup on the street! If you ask me that's part of the thrill.
I've thought about that issue as well - getting recorded and what not - but in the end I say #### it. I'm single with no kids. So I really don't give a ####.
....anyway, as I said, haven't been up to the Rock in a while. Been close to home, but I'm craving a little Exclusive and Chantilly fun. Anyone been there recently? Should I expect the same consistancy that's been there for the past 6 years? Or have things changed....geez, it feels like I haven't paid a visit in forever.
My mom and dad have lots of cash. I am just a poor college student, with a part time job a the family firm that only pays $26k. The business covers cost of school as job training and dad bought the house I live in as an investment, but he put it in my name for real estate tax purposes. So have a little more money available than my salary would suggest. All the money for trip to Russia is coming out of my pocket so I am being a bit more frugal in general to prepare for the trip.
I did a later report on my visit to the Lingerie shop. It was the Chantilly Lace one. Remembered the girl's name it was Jasmine or some such. Waste of my time and my money I will not be returning there, got no service at all! Better looking than most of the girls I have seen on the street, although there are a few good looking ones out there. They don't stay out long. There have been a few real ugly ones who I have noticed always are out.
Your best bet with the LS is to establish a relationship with a girl and become a regular. You probably need to go back 2 or 3 times and also pay for the full hour before you get the full menu to choose from. This has been my experience at Chantilly anyway. The no door deal is a little different, but they put a screen in front. I only went to Exclusive once and most of them
were butt ugly.
I was under the impression on my visit that more may have been available if it were not the girl's time of month. I told her she her time of month should be her days off, but she tried telling me the boss has no idea what goes on there and that would not be an acceptable reason to not come in. I wound up giving her nothing extra but was still out the $75 it cost to get in. Not good value for money in my book. If you throw good money after bad pretty soon you will not have any more money to throw.
I am looking for any info on a dancer that used to be at the bigfoot by the name of renee. Little blonde cute face
The girl who would have been my first choice at Chantilly Lace was named Renee. Don't know what she would have offered. Went in there she was the best looking then checked out across the street, they all looked older and more worn out there. When I came back to Chantilly a bit later, Renee was with another client. So I got my second choice. Renee was blonde cute, appeared to be in her mid to late 20s. She was dressed like a young school girl.
I don't know the truth about Ralph and his stories, but I do know that Ralph has access to more photos of questionably unattractive half naked girls in cars and hotel rooms than anyone I know. And I'm not sure how he got them all developed without a digital camera, because Photomart will confiscate
photos of ######.
I have met two of the girls in Ralph's photos, so I know at least some of his photos are of real Rockford girls. I think I saw another one out there but she looked a lot worse than she did in his pictures. The ones in his pictures are on average better looking than the average of the girls I have seen to get picked up on the Rockford streets. There are not a lot of 10s as SW in Rockford, unless they are hiding somewhere and no one here has reported on the location. His last one was quite nice, in my opinion. Would be nice if someone else posted them. You can always use a Polaroid if you don't think your pictures will be confiscated.
I know Shelly well. Has a short left ring finger, birthday 7/27, and grad. Stillman Valley in 2002. She is not working as a prost to my knowledge. PM me for more details.
You may be right about the name, if it is the girl I picked up last fall. Thought she was a bit older than me and her name was Theresa. Asked my brother who knew Theresa and he said he thought she did have a younger sister about my age. She would have been from Stillman Valley. He did not recall her name and I did not pressure him on the question since I did not want him to know why I was curious. Unless Shelly has quit recently she is a prostitute since she was last fall when I met her.
Been pondering this lifestyle a bit as of late and something has been bothering me about the system. When they arrest guys for picking up prostitutes, the guys usually pay a fine. Since he has money to spend on girls he can most likely afford it, and then go about their business. Although if he is married as it appears some guys on here are it may not help his home life. But when they arrest the girls, they seem to get right out again. Someone on here said he was with one shortly after she was arrested last year. But if the girls get fined I am guessing they don't have a huge bankroll so in order to pay the fine they most likely have to go back out and do what it is that got them in trouble in the first place. If they go to jail do they get some sort of job training? Or am I missing the point of something here?
Wow Ralph, She looks pretty good..Drives a Vet...and you could have
gotten it for free. I think if she's still out there somewhere, Blackadder
better start carrying an engagement ring with him :)
You guys are heartless! Funny, but heartless. I wish everyone that wants to help straighten out some poor girls life the best of luck. They will need it. It is bad enough dealing with a woman from a normal background and upbringing, let alone one that has been put in this position. When she comes back to the streets (likely to happen) tell her to use the name Ann so we will know who she is and may feel sorry for her also.
I did a later report on my visit to the Lingerie shop. It was the Chantilly Lace one. Remembered the girl's name it was Jasmine or some such. Waste of my time and my money I will not be returning there, got no service at all! Better looking than most of the girls I have seen on the street, although there are a few good looking ones out there. They don't stay out long. There have been a few real ugly ones who I have noticed always are out.
Oh man! I know that Jasmine! She is a grade A *****! I got burned by her as well. She is SUPER HOT. Young white girl, kicking curves, brunette....F HER! I have a review of her buried in the archives somewhere. Basically she didn't like me, so she did nothing. I mean she wouldn't even stand there. No tip for her. Someone else said she gave him a CBJ.
My favorite gal at LS is Tiffany at Exclusive. I know she works nights. White girl, curvy, a little aloof, but good attitude. She's willing to indulge your freak, whatever you're into. Check her out.
Chief_Wiggum
03-06-06, 17:07
Oh man! I know that Jasmine! She is a grade A *****! I got burned by her as well. She is SUPER HOT. Young white girl, kicking curves, brunette....F HER! I have a review of her buried in the archives somewhere. Basically she didn't like me, so she did nothing. I mean she wouldn't even stand there. No tip for her. Someone else said she gave him a CBJ. Yeah, that was me! No one else got service? What do they do all day there? Everytime I've been there, there has been at most, 2 other guys. I get the huge line up.
My favorite gal at LS is Tiffany at Exclusive. I know she works nights. White girl, curvy, a little aloof, but good attitude. She's willing to indulge your freak, whatever you're into. Check her out. 3 questions: is she hot, young, thin? My favorite over there, but she left before I could post anything about, was Dawn (iirc). Easily as hot as Jasmine.
I think she's hot. Cute. She has curves - not thin, but not fat and not "thick". Nicy juicy firm D titties and a juicy round ass. mmm mmm
Of course, she's my type. To each his own. I think you'll agree with me.
Hey all--
Will be close by (relatively) and wanted to know if there are any sc's still worth going to in the rock? feel free to PM if you want
Thanks,
R
Cruised through Rockford today in the early afternoon. Light LE but a few cars parked on side streets, so the presence was felt. Virtually no one on the streets. Literally no single women walking anywhere. After about an hour I came across Tina walking alone. Stopped and talked but she said she was just strolling, obviously viewing me as potential LE.
Cruised further and came across her 2 more times more than a mile away. She finally got in the car and we ran off and hid for the deed. Decent BBBJ for $30, asked $40. Gave her $5 for a tip though as she really took her time and she broke a long dry streak for me.
Blonde, nice face, a little heavy, agreeable woman. No digits.
HHH
Captain Stiffy
03-12-06, 19:57
I will be in Rockford next weekend. Since all the AMPs are closed (I've been to the one on Broadway twice, years ago & loved it) I will be looking to get my money's worth in the strip clubs. (fkn' bikini bars) Any suggestions for good backroom action? Is the one that got busted last year still open? I forgot the name. I would appreciate any info, & I will post my findings after next weekend.
Thanks!
Chicago Monger
03-12-06, 20:32
Seemed like a few sw where out today. A blonde on 6th and 4th who I used to see a while ago prior the the sweep. There were a few familar faces. Wonder if some got released. 4 wsw all around 7th, broadway and 8th. A heavy redhead, short hair on 7th and about 17th.
Mister Quick
03-14-06, 09:57
This was in the Rockford paper
A former Paradise Health Spa business manager is expected to testify against two defendants.
By Mike Wiser
ROCKFORD — The trial of two people accused of orchestrating and running sex- trade businesses in Rockford begins today in federal court.
Co-defendants Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang each face conspiracy and money-laundering charges for what federal authorities say was their role in operating massage parlors that were fronts for prostitution.
About a year ago, federal and local law-enforcement agents carried out a series of raids at several Asian massage parlors and shut down the businesses.
Federal indictments pointed to Lee and Hwang who recruited girls from Asia to work and possibly live at the parlors where they allegedly provided customers with sexual favors in exchange for cash.
The indictments specifically tie Lee, also known as “Kyung Lee,” and Young Ja Hwang, also known as “Coco,” to the former Paradise Health Spa, 278 N. Phelps Ave., and the former Pine Tree Health Spa, 4315 E. State St.
According to the indictments, Lee and Hwang “conspired ... to use facilities in interstate commerce with intent to promote, manage, establish, carry on and to facilitate the promotion, management, establishment and carrying on, of illegal prostitution activities.”
A third defendant, Mi Ran Park, has pleaded guilty to conspiracy and money-laundering charges. As part of her plea agreement, Park agreed to testify against Lee and Hwang at the upcoming trial. She is scheduled to be sentenced after the trial.
In her plea deal, Park said she worked for Hwang in early 2003 as a prostitute at the Paradise Health Spa and would split her earnings with Hwang 50/50. Park said she left and then returned to the Paradise as a manager of the business in November 2003 until February 2005.
“When the defendant managed and operated the Paradise Health Spa, the spa operated primarily as a house of prostitution, where customers would pay money in exchange for sexual services,” Park’s plea deal reads.
Court records show that Lee tried unsuccessfully to get the trial moved to the federal court’s Eastern Division of the Northern District of Illinois because of pretrial publicity.
Hwang tried to get a separate trial from Lee and also tried to get her nickname “Coco” stricken from the record, “contending it suggests she is a prostitute.” Hwang’s requests were denied.
The trial, which beings at 8:45 a.m. with jury selection, is expected to last a week.
Mister Quick
03-14-06, 10:41
Did Rockford trip Sunday. Was nice weather during the day. Thought would be more girls out. Got town when rain storms started. Made everyone go inside.
Saw a few potentials out. Almost all scary looking. Saw a girl standing in a doorway out of the rain on 8th St just south of Broadway. She gave me the look when I passed. I went around the block and pulled over not too far from her. She came to my car. She was about 30 and average looking- meaning better than any of the other girls I had seen. I asked her if she needed a ride. She said she was waiting for her date. Said no. I took off. The other girls who were out had gone inside or been picked up.
Went shopping. Hoped rain would stop when I was done. Not the case. Came back. Thought I might be getting lucky. A couple blocks north of Broadway on 8th, I saw a very attractive young girl, college aged, in a white jacket who gave me the eye. Went around the block. Again pulled over not too far from where she was. If she was a SW she would come to me. Things got weird. She started blowing a whistle and then yelling for me to pull up. At the same time necklace and bracelets she was wearing begin flashing red and green. Made it real obvious where she was in the dark. Dont like things that draw unwanted attention. I took off. Went around the block again. She was gone.
No girls out, cruised another 20 minutes. Decided to brave the lingerie shops. Glad I read reports. Stopped at both to see what was there. The girls all come out and say their name allowing you to then take a pick. The ones at CL are definitely better looking than the ones across the street. My opinion Jasmine was the best looking one at either. She has two bad reports on her here. I will let the third be written by someone who has not read the first two. Chose another girl named Rene. Blonde tall late 20s. Better looking than most of the girls I have picked up as SWs. One pays for a session that is $45-75, dependent on time. The time prices at both are about the same. You must then tip to get anything extra.
Went to the back. Rooms are not real private. Half doors although they do put screen in front of doorway for a bit more privacy. Did have a good time with her. Not sure if I will come back. Nothing against Rene or her performance. Total cost was over twice what I have paid for same service from SWs, after adding in hotel room. The experience was very rushed. Had to finish in the allotted time. Some SWs have been in a hurry up mode, but never had one say have to finish soon we have 3 minutes left. This could be avoided if had taken hour session. That costs more. I am guessing from past reports that the session is over when one is fulfilled or time is up. No repeats for early finishers? Thus if I had finished early would have wasted money on unused time?
Mister Quick
03-15-06, 09:43
This was in the Rockford paper. Seems as if the defendants are admitting that prostitution was going on there but are fighting a bunch more serious charges.
Trial of spa owners begins with conspiracy statements
By Mike Wiser ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR
ROCKFORD — Of course, there were prostitutes working at the massage parlors federal and local agents shut down in February 2005.
But there was no conspiracy, defense attorneys for Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang contended on the first day of their clients’ money-laundering and conspiracy trial Monday.
Prosecutors say Lee and Hwang ran prostitution businesses out of the Pine Tree Health Spa, 4315 East State St., and the Paradise Health Spa, 278 N. Phelps Ave., from at least June 2002 through February 2005.
In his opening statement Monday afternoon, assistant U.S. attorney Michael Iasparro said the evidence would show that Lee and Hwang used interstate phone lines to further their prostitution businesses and move money they obtained from the illegal acts taking place inside the health spas in violation of federal law.
“This is a case of money, greed, sex and even violence,” Iasparro said.
He said the spas made a staggering amount of money, upward of $2.5 million over three years, from customers who came to Rockford after hearing about the services offered either by word-of-mouth or through newspaper advertisements.
At the center of this, he said, were Hwang and Lee.
“There is no dispute” that prostitution took place at the spas, said U.S. federal defender Paul Flynn, who represents Lee.
“They’re going to prove to you that prostitution went on, of course they are. But that’s a different proposition than proving there was a conspiracy,” he said.
Flynn said that his client is an East High School graduate who was known in the Korean community as someone who could speak English well and would often help non-English speakers get things done, such as helping them with a building permit.
Hwang’s attorney, Robert Aronson of Chicago, tried to insert the idea into jurors’ minds that his client was facing trumped up federal charges because local law-enforcement officials couldn’t or wouldn’t make a case.
“All the spas in Rockford were booming, until somebody thought ‘We’ve got to put a stop to this,’ ” Aronson said.
“So they called in the feds, the FBI, the Secret Service ... when all they had to do was go into state court and get a warrant to shut it down.”
He added, sarcastically, “Your tax dollars at work.”
Like Flynn, he said there was no conspiracy at play.
“She operated the business by herself,” Aronson said. “Make them prove the big conspiracy.”
Two witnesses were called Monday: Randall Sealby of the Rockford FBI office and Mi Ran Park, a former spa worker and manager who was originally charged with Lee and Hwang but made a deal with prosecutors.
Sealby said the FBI and other law-enforcement officials got involved in the case after reading an expose of the spa business that ran in the Rockford Register Star. He said the investigation included surveillance, trash pulls, and having an informant pose as a potential business contact with Lee while recording their conversations.
Park, who appeared in court in an orange jumpsuit, told the jury, through an interpreter, that she worked for Hwang at the Paradise as a masseur and prostitute.
She said she came to Rockford from Los Angeles because she heard there was money to be made and “the police, unlike other towns, tend not to bother us that much.”
The trial is scheduled to resume at 9 a.m. today.
Anyone visit this new spa in Loves Park? Let me know if anyone has visited. Thanx
Had a visit w/ Natalie last week again. Great h/j and attitude.
Had a visit w/ Natalie last week again. Great h/j and attitude.
Was your visit during the day or evening?
Ps: I haven't heard anything about a place In Loves Park but
I hope it turns out to be a Winner.
[QUOTE=Jimbo33]Was your visit during the day or evening?
Ps: I haven't heard anything about a place In Loves Park but
I hope it turns out to be a Winner.[/QUOTE
She works days
World Wise
03-16-06, 14:57
Visited Rockford last night, and found things on the track hopping! Cruised both strolls from Sandy Hollar all the way up to State Street, and counted 9 WSWs and 3 BSW at 5:45 to 6:15 PM. Was looking for a specific lady, so I did not make a selection at once, and found the choices diminished as the evening wore on. By 7:30 I grabbed an old favorite, and retired to the notel.
Very light LE presence, and a few new faces, but not high quality.
Still, an enjoyable evening in beautiful Rockford.
Mister Quick
03-17-06, 11:27
Got a few PMs about the trial reports. The first asking if I I was making them to up my post count- did not know one was rewarded for having more posts. The other two asked me why I had stopped. Actually was real busy with work lately- this site is not what I would consider work related. This is big news in Rockford, here are articles from Rockford paper past few days. Was of only minor interest to me since I have never been to one of these places, they were closed before I even knew about the- but from what I understand there are others in other cities. Also I have never been attracted to Oriental women so I have no desire to go to the ones that are in other cities- plus it appears to cost more than SWs.
ARTICLES:
Tuesday testimony ends in tears at spa trial
By Mike Wiser ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR Mar 15
ROCKFORD — Tuesday’s testimony in the conspiracy and money laundering trial of Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang ended with both defendants and a government witness in tears.
The witness, Joo Hee Lee, a 37-year-old former masseur at the Pine Tree, Rainbow and Paradise health spas broke down and refused Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Iasparro’s request to point to the defendants. Her struggle clearly affected both Kenneth Lee and Hwang, who likewise started sobbing.
“Are you afraid?” Iasparro asked Joo Lee, which brought defense attorneys to their feet in objection.
Judge Philip Reinhard told Joo Lee she had to answer the question, if she could, but she refused and would only say — through an interpreter — “Ken Lee is not an owner.”
Reinhard then had to send the jury home for the day as the three people tried to compose themselves.
“This is beyond proper conduct in my opinion,” said Robert Aronson, Hwang’s attorney, after the jury had left. “It’s vicious, cruel and should have never happened.”
Prosecutors allege that Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang conspired together to manage and operate the former Paradise and Pine Tree health spas as fronts for prostitution. As part of the alleged conspiracy, Kenneth Lee and Hwang processed and made payments using interstate phone lines and courier services to promote, manage, establish and further their illegal enterprise.
Defense attorneys have acknowledged that prostitution took place at the spas but say there was never any conspiracy.
The Paradise and Pine Tree, as well as other massage parlors in the Rockford area, were shut down in February 2005 when federal and local law enforcement officers carried out a series of nighttime raids on the establishments.
The emotional ending to Tuesday’s testimony capped off what was otherwise a mundane day where jurors heard from police officers, city of Rockford zoning officials, and the landlord who owned the building where the Paradise operated.
Jurors also heard from Mi Ran Park, a former masseur turned manager of the Paradise turned government witness. She testified how the Paradise operated, with customers offering front money for a massage and then negotiating with the masseurs for sexual favors later.
Joo Lee testified that when she worked at the spas, she would give massages or baths to customers who would then negotiate later what she described as “morally incorrect things.”
She said that she worked for Hwang and Kenneth Lee and often ran errands for the other “working girls” to get them food or take the proceeds that they made and “turned them into money orders” because the girls couldn’t or wouldn’t go outside.
After testifying for over an hour — much of that testimony including Kenneth Lee and Hwang, Joo Lee was unable to point to them.
After Reinhard sent the jury home, he told Joo Lee she was required to come back today when she likely will have to point out the defendants and submit to cross-examination.
Through her interpreter, Joo Lee indicated she didn’t want to return.
Hearing this, Reinhard told Iasparro he was willing to have Joo Lee taken into protective custody for the night to insure that she would show up when the trial reconvened.
Iasparro said that it wasn’t necessary, so the judge made it clear that the responsibility to have Joo Lee appear in court rested with the Justice Department.
“I will hold the government responsible that she will appear,” Reinhard said.
“If she’s not, the government is going to have to deal with me, and I’m not going to be happy. More than that, it will jeopardize your case.”
Reinhard said if Joo Lee did not show up, he was prepared, at minimum, to strike all her testimony from the record.
“I don’t want to have a mistrial because the witness cannot be cross-examined,” he said.
Jurors see inside Pine Tree Health Spa during trial
By Mike Wiser ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR Mar 16
ROCKFORD — Jurors got a glimpse today of the inside of the Pine Tree Health Spa the night it was raided by federal and local authorities in February 2005.
In a series of photographs, FBI agent Douglas Hyde told the jurors about the condoms, credit machines, ledgers, beds, sex toys and “dozens of jars” of lubricant found on the Pine Tree’s premises.
The photos were part of the evidence prosecutors are using in the federal conspiracy and money laundering case against Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang.
Lee and Hwang are accused of running massage parlors that were fronts for prostitution. Defense attorneys have acknowledged that prostitution did take place at the spas, but there was no conspiracy.
Earlier in the day, jurors learned that clerks at the downtown Rockford branch of the U.S. Postal Service used to call Lee the “2,900-dollar man.”
The nickname grew out of Lee’s penchant to buy postal money orders totaling $2,900, “one time or two times a week,” testified Carol Rude, a postal service distribution clerk.
The amount is significant, prosecutors allege, because it shows that Lee was trying to cover a paper trail. Paperwork and photo identification are required when someone purchases money orders for $3,000 or more.
Lee’s nickname and habit of buying money orders under $3,000 from post offices in Rockford, Cherry Valley, Loves Park and other locations were part of this morning’s testimony.
Federal authorities say that Lee and Hwang crossed interstate lines to further their criminal interests by doing things like making payments with money gained from those enterprises through the U.S. Postal Service in the form of money orders.
Other witnesses who testified this morning included Jim Parsons, a window clerk at the Belvidere Post office; U.S. Postal Inspector Ferdinand Lorenzana, who conducted surveillance on Lee as part of the investigation; and Terry Walker and Peter Spyratos, co-owners of Secrets, an adult gift shop adjacent to one of the spas where the masseurs would often buy clothing.
Frequent spa client tells of visits
The defendants used money orders to cover a paper trail from sex favors, prosecutors say.
By Mike Wiser ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR March 17
ROCKFORD — Dirk Wichgers Jr. would drive from Madison, Wis., five to seven times a month, on average, for several years to visit the local massage parlors, dropping about $140 a visit.
He’d get a massage and then, more often than not, pay the masseur for sexual services. Later, he’d post reviews of his visit on Internet message boards under pseudonyms for the establishments and the girls.
He was never arrested or charged for things like prostitution or solicitation. Thursday in federal court, however, Wichgers was publicly shamed.
“Aren’t you known as the King of Kinky Sex?” Chicago defense attorney Robert Aronson asked Wichgers after the 41-year-old Wisconsin native had told jurors about his experiences as a client of the Pine Tree, Tokyo Oriental and Paradise health spas.
Judge Philip Reinhard said Wichgers didn’t have to answer that one, but Aronson continued to badger him about his sexual proclivities, which he characterized as “really kinky,” and said that the man had made a reputation for himself among the girls at the spas as having bizarre fetishes. Prosecutors continually objected to Aronson’s questions, and Reinhard upheld most of the objections.
“Do not test the patience of the court with these types of questions you know are improper,” Reinhard scolded.
Alleged advertising
After a break and before the jury was readmitted into the courtroom, Aronson apologized to Reinhard and said he was only trying to show that Wichgers had a bias against the spa.
Wichgers testified on the fourth day of the federal conspiracy and money-laundering trial of Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang. Prosecutors allege that Lee and Hwang promoted, managed, established and carried on illegal prostitution activities in a number of massage parlors that were shut down in February 2005.
Part of their alleged activities included attracting clients from across state lines by placing advertisements in newspapers, like the one that Wichgers testified he saw in a Madison publication that first brought him to Rockford.
Defense attorneys for Lee and Hwang have acknowledged that prostitution took place in the spas, but they claim there was no conspiracy. They say that Hwang ran the spas by herself and Lee was used only as interpreter and would help her out with things such as construction work and advertising bills.
In other testimony on Thursday, jurors learned that clerks at the downtown Rockford branch of the U.S. Postal Service used to call Lee the “$2,900 man.”
The nickname grew out of Lee’s penchant to buy postal money orders totaling $2,900, “one time or two times a week,” testified Carol Rude, a Postal Service distribution clerk. A co-worker of Rude’s, Carol Stout, testified that it was about “two or three times a week” and she knew Lee as “the money-order man.”
The amount is significant, prosecutors allege, because it shows that Lee was trying to cover a paper trail. Paperwork and photo identification are required when someone purchases money orders for $3,000 or more.
Postal Inspector Ferdinand Lorenzana testified that surveillance of Lee and warrants on his mail showed that he bought several money orders from post offices in Rockford, Loves Park, Belvidere and other areas. The amounts never met or exceeded $3,000.
Jurors also got a glimpse inside the Pine Tree Health Spa the night it was raided by federal and local authorities in February 2005.
Raid evidence
In a series of photographs, FBI agent Douglas Hyde told the jurors about the condoms, credit-card machines, ledgers, beds, showers, cash, sex toys and “dozens of jars” of lubricant found on Pine Tree’s premises.
Hyde said on the night of the raid, agents found five people inside and caught four more as they ran outside the spa. There was a mix of men and women, he said.
He walked the jurors through the steps they took cataloging the evidence and added that even with police on the scene, business seemed to be good at the spa.
“It was kind of funny,” Hyde said. “We had a marked squad car out front and we were all in our jackets, and more than one guy came up and asked us if it was open.”
The trial is scheduled to resume at 9 a.m. today.
Thanks, very interesting. So the FBI busted acouple of AMPs. But more important, how many terrorist have they caught? 1
You got to ask your self, what is wrong with this picture?
Thanks, very interesting. So the FBI busted acouple of AMPs. But more important, how many terrorist have they caught? 1
You got to ask your self, what is wrong with this picture?You know, along this line, I was reading about the child porn ring that got busted a couple days ago. Now I don't have an issue with the busts, but did anyone else notice it was the department of Homeland Security that led the investigation? Maybe if the city cops were pulled off the AMPs and so on, they could bust the kiddie porn rings, and the Homeland Security guys could spend time catching terrorists. Just a thought.
Mister Quick
03-18-06, 13:30
Get to work on Saturday, our busy time of year, still taking a few minutes break to surf the web. Looks like the trial is coming to a close. Seems they are trying to do what they did in the Martha Stewart trial, cant convict on the original charge so make it appear as if they are guilty of smething else to get a guilty verdict. Something in this case the defendents have admited guilt on but from what I gather it is a much lesser crime and one that only involves state laws not federal ones. Of course I could be mistaken here.
The government always goes after criminlas that are easiest to cathc and whihc when they catch them they can get money from. Terrorists are not really in these categories. I recall reading in the news a few years ago about a small town in Missouri that git all of the city revenue from speed traps, they had several full time cops to cathc speeders. They caught a sttae representative who learned of the towns rep, he got back at them by having a law passed to the effect that no city or town could get more than 20% of their budget from traffic fines, any more would get turned over to the state. The town protested to no avail, laid off several cops and had to find a new source of revenue.
ARTICLE:
Spa case drawing to a close
By Bob Schaper ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR
ROCKFORD — The federal conspiracy trial of Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang continued into its fifth day today, but the testimony portion is likely to conclude this afternoon.
The jury is expected to get the case Monday.
Before lunch, FBI agent Randy Ray told the jury about the government’s raid on the Pine Tree Health Spa on Feb. 27, 2005. According to Ray, Hwan was in an office area when he and other officers came through the door.
He said she immediately activated a light switch that turned on a red light in every room. During an interview later that night, she denied being a key person in the operation, saying she was only a “working girl.”
Meanwhile, defense attorney Robert Aronson requested a mistrial, saying the evidence this week had gone from being a conspiracy trial to one involving mostly prostitution.
“They have turned this trial on its head,” he told Judge Philip Reinhard.
But Reinhard dismissed the motion, saying the case was clearly about conspiracy as it relates to prostitution.
Prosecutors say Lee and Hwang operated an illegal prostitution ring in a chain of massage parlors that were raided in February 2005.
In order to make the busy John more productive, I have provided a synopsis of a previously verbose post.
This is something that I've had a very difficult time writing. I am an idiot. Try not to be an Idiot like me. Here's how I did it...
I waited like a little ***** as some **** smart enough to know I am a loser blew me off, maybe because she was already knocked up by some other loser.
So I picked up a ho.
I picked up the ho, but even a piece of public pussy that risks getting her throat slit every time she drops her droopy ass in a johns's car is afraid of a stalker like me.
The **** told me her name is Ann. I called her 954 times but she wouldn't answer her phone. Can you blame her?
Blah blah blah - Like a fucking douchbag doing the ***** a BIG favor - I offered to take her away. Being the ***** that she is, she said she'd rather sell her smelly, loose box to anyone with a Jackson or a piece of rock cocaine. I am sad. Pity the Fool.
This story is not over. It is becoming increasingly difficult for me to write have been working on it for several weeks now, so I will stop for now.
Mister Quick
03-19-06, 13:09
Looks like the lawyers are done arguing the case.
Lawyers rest cases in spa trial
Final arguments begin Monday in the prostitution conspiracy case.
By Bob Schaper ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR 18 Mar
ROCKFORD — The prosecution and defense rested their cases Friday in the prostitution conspiracy trial of Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang. Final arguments will start Monday morning in downtown Rockford, and the jury will begin deliberations later that day.
Neither Lee nor Hwang spoke in their own defense.
Han Young Chul, a pastor at DeKalb’s Northern Illinois Korean Church, told the jury that Lee was a regular worshipper who helped construct a new church in 2002 and provided free dry-cleaning services.
Lee burst into tears when Chul said through a translator, “Lee told me, ‘When I do God’s work, God will also help me.’ ”
But FBI agent Randy Sealby painted a starkly different picture of Lee. Sealby testified that after arresting Lee on Feb. 27, 2005, the defendant gave him operational details about the former Pine Tree Health Spa, 4315 E. State St.
Prompted by assistant U.S. attorney Michael Iasparro, Sealby said customers paid a $40 entry fee at the door, then negotiated with the women for sexual services.
According to Sealby, Lee told him sexual intercourse went for $200, of which the women kept $100. Other services had different prices.
Each woman pleasured 10 to 12 men a day, Lee told Sealby.
Still, Lee said he had nothing to do with the prostitution, and only provided odd-job services to help his friend Hwang. For example, Sealby testified that Lee charged $150 to drive the women from Chicago’s Midway Airport to Rockford.
He also charged a 1 percent fee for purchasing money orders at area post offices. A $2,900 money order, for instance, would net him $29.
“If I’m guilty of anything, it’s money laundering,” Lee told Sealby, according to a transcript of their interview.
For Hwan part, her attorney suggested there was no evidence of a conspiracy between the defendants. Robert Aronson did not deny that Hwan operated a brothel, but said she was a “sole proprietor.”
“She wasn’t operating a corporation, was she?” he asked Sealby.
Before lunch, FBI agent Randy Ray told the jury about the government’s raid on the Pine Tree on Feb. 27, 2005.
According to Ray, Hwan was in an office area when he and other officers charged through the door. He said she immediately threw a switch that turned on a red light in every room.
Earlier in the day, Aronson demanded a mistrial, saying the evidence this week had grown from being a conspiracy trial to one involving mostly prostitution.
“They have turned this trial on its head,” he told Judge Philip Reinhard.
But Reinhard quickly dismissed the motion, saying the case was clearly about conspiracy as it relates to prostitution.
Aronson and Lee’s attorney, Paul Flynn, also requested a summary dismissal after the prosecution rested. Reinhard quashed those motions as well.
A third defendant, Mi Ran Park, pleaded guilty to conspiracy and money-laundering charges and testified against Lee and Hwang. She admitted working for Hwang in 2003 as a prostitute at the Paradise Health Spa.
Call Me Booger
03-20-06, 17:08
I was in the Loves Park area and had a few minutes, so I found the new Unlimited Massage. It has the look of an AMP, doorbell at entrance, sign in the inside room that says Steam/Sauna/Massage, and I believe $80. I didn't have the time to check it out, but it looks promising.
When I'm back in the area, I'll toftt, or if someone beats me to it, please post or pm.
Thanks,
Boog
Was hoping someone would toftt, at Unlimited. Located on E. Riverside Blvd, in Loves Park 1 block east of Alpine Rd. next to Blockbuster Video. I called to get rates and services. 85 for table shower and massage. 1 hr. Hope this gets someones juices flowing. Im waiting for the trial to end. Looks to be some parking behind building also.
Does anyone know if old posts from forums such as this or any other forum on the internet can be used in court?
Does anyone know if old posts from forums such as this or any other forum on the internet can be used in court?
Hell, they could use anything in court these days. Our Judicial System could
most likely convict you of attempted rape if you were to exit a rest-room
with your fly not fully zipped.
Having made this post, I could get off a jury because of my non-respect for
the system but do not worry I will NOT expose this forum. If I choose not
to serve, I have many other plans.
Mister Quick
03-21-06, 10:19
Looks like they were found guilty of conspiracy although from the articles I am not quite sure what they were conspiring to do other than make money and provide a service that was in demand. Guess since they claimed they were guilty of running brothels they were found guilty of that.
ARTICLE:
Guilty verdict in spa cases
By Mike Wiser ROCKFORD REGISTER STAR
ROCKFORD — A jury found Kenneth Lee and Young Ja Hwang guilty this afternoon on conspiracy and money laundering charges for their roles in managing and operating the Pine Tree and Paradise massage parlors.
The Rockford parlors were actually fronts for prostitution, a fact that defense attorneys for both acknowledged throughout the trial. But, they argued, there was no evidence of a conspiracy.
Hwang, they maintained, ran the spas while Lee was simply an occasional employee who acted as a “courier, taxi cab driver and translator” for Hwang.
Like they did during opening statements a week ago, prosecutors repeated today that the conspiracy was about money, sex, greed and violence.
“Money was the motive. Sex was the means. Violence didn’t deter them. Greed was their downfall,” said Assistant United States Attorney Joe Pedersen said at the close of his argument Monday morning.
But both defense attorneys, Chicago lawyer Robert Aronson for Hwang, and U.S. Federal Defender Paul Flynn for Lee, said that the government’s claims are misleading.
“They’ll tell you that this trial is about greed, money and sex,” Aronson said. “They’re wrong. This trial is about conspiracy ... a conspiracy they have failed to prove.”
Both Lee and Hwang each face 25 years in prison.
Mister Quick
03-21-06, 10:23
They might be able to use it to glean information to try and arrest, but I would think it hard to use anything here as hard evidence due to the fact that there is no way to find out exactly who is doing the report, the fact that there is no way of challenging it (such as cross examination) and the fact that there has been known to be general BS and false inforamtion presented here.
Does anyone know if old posts from forums such as this or any other forum on the internet can be used in court?
If anyone wants any info on this place, pm me. I don't want to give out any more info than is necessary in case le is watching. Senoir members first.
DJ
The point of this trial is to set an example, not about proving right or wrong within the framework of the law. They, the feds, picked an amp city where they new they could get a sympathetic jury and a less then intellegent judge and defending lawyer. They've made their point. It my prediction that the ruling will be overturned and life will go on but the next stop on the fed's "WAR ON AMPS" will be Atlanta and they will use Rockford as a barginning chip, but they will have to act fast, before the appeal.
As a side note, in the state of Illinois alone, in the past year (about the amount of time the amps have been closed) 116 new missing children have been added to the watch list by the National Center for Missing Children. 116 children, who all have a mother and father, yet the feds waste their time in busting amps, where no one gets hurt, many, if not all of the workers are there voluntarily, all of legal age, no drug users, very clean.
Now if they could prove salvery, forced prositution, then that would be a cause I could rationalize their time and effort.
We work hard for what we have and pay taxes expecting the government to protect us and provide essential services. It is very disappointing and frustrating when we see our tax dollars are being wasted for such useless trails! Almost everybody who works at AMPs and almost everybody who goes there to receive services do that voluntarily and by choice, there are no victims! We do not understand why government would not spend the limited resources we have in finding real criminals and putting them behind bars!
Not been on here in awhile, Had something happen that thought could not happen and will be changing my life forver. Not soe=mething bad just bad right now. It does not look like very many folks have been getting lucky and still have not seen anyone else with pics. I still have a fair number to upload then I am done, someone else will have to start posting. Unless I find some more there are only about 5 or 6 more photo sets to let you guys see.
I have looked at some of the other cities that I have posted in and a whole bunch of mug shot photos have been uploaded in the Peoria forum. Did not recognize any of the girls but to all those guys who claim the girls I have found are all ugly they should take a look at some of these girls.
This one is Lisa saw her many times over the years. First met her in the late 1990's she told me at the time she was 18, told me she had been doing it for a couple of years since dropping out of school. That along with having a kid with a guy who did not want to claim him had not led to her having a real good life. Nice girl who was not really into drugs but was a part timer in taht respect. Liked having her picture taken and have more of her than any other girl. Wound up giving her copies of most of them. Only allowed to post ten here, so picked ten I liked the best. When I first met her she was rather unispired in perfomance and really acted like she did not like doing what she was doing. Last time I saw her was just shy of a year ago, did a couple of car dates with her and although she had begun to look a bit rough she was much more fun sex wise. May still be around. Dont think she was like it with all the guys who picked her up but she had come up with thte plan that I should give her money after we were done and I was about ready to drop her off, sicne if we got picked up for some reason adn she had no cash on her it would be very hard to prve that she was not putting out for the fun of it. She seemed to have the habit of being out almost all the time and then disappearing for months at a time, I know she once said she had gotten a waitress job for awhile.
Wow Ralph, She looks pretty good..Drives a Vet...and you could have
gotten it for free. I think if she's still out there somewhere, Blackadder
better start carrying an engagement ring with him :)
You guys are heartless! Funny, but heartless. I wish everyone that wants to help straighten out some poor girls life the best of luck. They will need it. It is bad enough dealing with a woman from a normal background and upbringing, let alone one that has been put in this position. When she comes back to the streets (likely to happen) tell her to use the name Ann so we will know who she is and may feel sorry for her also.
I think it depends on how early in their career you find a girl you want to help. Should not chastise someone for wantng to do a good deed, since it looks like I will wind up marrying a one time SWIf you catch her when she is a rookie then there is a much better chance of helping her than if she has been at it a few years. Either that or find the ones that are just out to get a bit of extra spending money. I have found afew that did have full time jobs that just came out on the street when they needed some extra money or were horney and figured it is better to get paid than it is to give it away.
Not sure what exactly Lindsay was. Just saw her the once, some of the best looking ones I found I only saw once. Maybe they wind up getting taken in by someone. Most of them insisted I not post pictures of them online (so you guys dont get to see them) and a couple refused to let me take them. I know more than one girl I have picked up has told me one of her regualrs had fallen for her, although once they become drug addicts I think they are beyond the point of any help one guy can give them.
Spramanator
03-22-06, 12:08
Hi all. It has been some time since my last post. Sorry about that, but I have not been up to the rock in awhile. Anyway to make a longer story just long, I went to the rusty nail last sat to check it out. I was not impressed. There were 3 girls, I cannot remember their fake stripper names. Two were ok and one was barely passable. Maybe after she looses the belly from her baby she will be ok. Of the two that were ok one was a blond and one a brunette. The blond got drunk quick and kept asking me and others to buy her drinks. I am a cheap bastard so I told her to let the other guys get her drunk for me. She liked my sense of humor. None of them were worth my hard earned cash and none of them seemed to be interested in the private dances with anyone. I do not know how long they dance for, I am assuming until 1 am or 2 since that is when most bars close down. I left around 1230. Bored and unsatisfied. Now before you jump the gun I did tip them while they were on stage, one of the very few guys that did and got some mutal gropes and peeks, but still did not feel like shelling out $20 a song for a lapper, even if they were offering them. After I left I cruised around 11th, kish and ground zero. Heavy LE presence. It was a sat night so go figure. Saw a couple of ok sw's and one hottie over by the old? crack house in ground zero. She looked too good to be true and with LE 2 blocks away I decided not to risk it. In fact LE followed me shortly after that so I went to paradise hoping that LE would think that I was just cruising for a parking spot. It worked. Paradise used to be good a few years ago. Not anymore. $6 for a beer seems to be the norm I guess. Rusty nail was $3. Might just keep going there for a quick cheap buzz. Back to paradise. They had a few girls on stage but none that I would brag about. I finished my beer and went home.
Ralph, I for one enjoy your stories about Angel. I hope that the bad thing that happened wasn't too bad. I am, very curious to know what happened. Did I read that you plan on getting married? If you do congrats. I am your age and married an 18 yr old too. She is the best and if she was not under 21 she would be going to these bars with me. Not that I go alot as you can tell by my posts lol. Anyway good luck.
Sprammy,
Think with head one, so head two can have some fun!
Ci-Traveler
03-24-06, 00:21
This one is Lisa saw her many times over the years. First met her in the late 1990's she told me at the time she was 18, told me she had been doing it for a couple of years since dropping out of school. That along with having a kid with a guy who did not want to claim him had not led to her having a real good life. Nice girl who was not really into drugs but was a part timer in taht respect. Liked having her picture taken and have more of her than any other girl. Wound up giving her copies of most of them. ....................
Saggy tits, infections on her face and body, thin, flabby body mass, dark marks under they eyes.
Find a nice looking girl and report. Otherwise - just lurk until there is something good to report.
For those of you who lust after these ancient reports - get a life.
Pathetic.
ci-traveler
[QUOTE=Ralph]Not been on here in awhile, Had something happen that thought could not happen and will be changing my life forver. Not soe=mething bad just bad right now.
Let me guess.....Angel is pregnant ? Best of Luck !!
You did say that you were probably getting married, so, I assumed !
World Wise
03-24-06, 11:21
You know, Ci-Traveler, if you don't like Ralph's reports, don't read them!
There is little to be gained by flaming other guy's reports. Do you get some kind of thrill by being nasty to guys? You are starting to get on my nerves.
Prehaps you are not aware of it, but that is how many of the providers look out on the streets.
World Wise
03-24-06, 15:23
On a more positive note, anybody know anything about the two Rockford area providers that have been advertising on the Chicago Craigs List this week?
Both sound interesting.
Chief_Wiggum
03-24-06, 15:31
On a more positive note, anybody know anything about the two Rockford area providers that have been advertising on the Chicago Craigs List this week? I haven't seen Joy before. But, she looks solid. However, I have a natural disdain for Craig's list. Is it just Chicago, or has Craig's list become a ROB database all over the country? It's next to useless in southern CA (most listings are bait-n-switch agencies). Chicago seems to be full of ROBs.
Toni, on the other hand, has a lot of reviews. I haven't seen her personally (too short and too many piercings for my taste, and too shaved, but it looks like I'll be losing the battle with every provider). I would say she's legit. But, like I said, I haven't seen her. Let us know how it goes.
I would be willing to take a chance on Joy if she wasn't 3 bills. Even though I just took 2nd in a tourney, it's not worth the risk for a Craig's list ad, imo.
Joy used to work at the Hideaway. She always seemed high or looped on pills when she was there. I did see a review of her on another board that gave her a 3 on a scale of 10. Sounded like a major waste of money.
I have seen Toni. She is everything she advertises. She is quite enthusiastic in here performance. Toni is not quite GFE, she does have some rules. CBJ, nothing uncovered goes inside, no DFK and no anal. But like I said what she does, she does good. She is in fact quite small, but the positions she can get in are out of this world. The one down side I would say is she smokes ALOT. Her room smells like an ashtray, as did I when I left.
But the price is reasonable, 1.25 for a half hour of fun about 4 months ago, now I thing she's up t 1.5. I thought about a three way with one of her friends, I may still try it sometime, but it has to be the right friend... We'll see.
Ci-Traveler
03-24-06, 23:53
You know, Ci-Traveler, if you don't like Ralph's reports, don't read them!
There is little to be gained by flaming other guy's reports. Do you get some kind of thrill by being nasty to guys? You are starting to get on my nerves.
Prehaps you are not aware of it, but that is how many of the providers look out on the streets.
I don't flame other guys' reports (notice where the apostrophe goes ok?). I point out the obvious because it is obvious. How many people have I "flamed"? I suggest you count 'em before asking the dumb question.
BTW - I care little for if you have your nerves gotten on.......you need a thicker skin.
Oh - yes - I very much know what most of teh providers on the street look like. That's why I pass on at least 90% of them. The difference is that Ralph doesn't. He'll f**k anything - and then put a pic of it up for us to barf over.
How's that for flamin'?
ci-traveler
Mister Quick
03-25-06, 11:01
I don't flame other guys' reports (notice where the apostrophe goes ok?). I point out the obvious because it is obvious. How many people have I "flamed"? I suggest you count 'em before asking the dumb question.
BTW - I care little for if you have your nerves gotten on.......you need a thicker skin.
Oh - yes - I very much know what most of teh providers on the street look like. That's why I pass on at least 90% of them. The difference is that Ralph doesn't. He'll f**k anything - and then put a pic of it up for us to barf over.
How's that for flamin'?
ci-traveler
By your own accounts you picked up what in my opinion is the scariest in the lot of girls whose pics were on the Peoria police website. So I do not think you have any reason to complain about the looks of other girls who someone else goes through the effort of posting. Since you seem to complain about Ralph pictures a lot why do you bother to take the time and view them all?
http://www.USASexGuide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=402011&postcount=98
http://www.USASexGuide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26483
I haven't seen Toni, but I'm trying to connect with her. I think her rates have gone up considerably, given the info on midnight chicago. I saw Joy when she worked as Tina at Executive in Belvidere. I spoke with her and she said she is working at Exclusive (I think). Works 4PM on. Haven't seen her as an Indy, but the massage was nice.
Ci-Traveler
03-26-06, 13:02
By your own accounts you picked up what in my opinion is the scariest in the lot of girls whose pics were on the Peoria police website..................[/url]
I'm afraid your anaolgy/claim/statement is highly inaccurate.
I assume the picture you posted was taken RECENTLY. VERY scary! I met her (if it is even the same girl) three or four years ago - and she was clean, very cute, didn't have a patch, and her eye was still working. Not even close to what this picture shows now. I would have given her a 6.5 on the SW scale back then. This pic? How's a -1 go?
I'm certain you know that many attractive women get less attractive over time - both because of their work environment, their behavior (drugs, alcohol, unprotected sex = disease) and getting older. This is a great example. She looks shockingly different.......but that's occured since I saw her.
Farrah Fawcet looks downright ugly now - but I remember in college when almost every guy had her poster up in their room. I don't think telling one of those guys that they have no taste now because they thought she was beautiful then is appropriate or accurate.
Ralph's pictures of ugly, disgusting looking women are taken the day he is seeing them. Not the same thing bud.
ci-traveler
I don't think that it will matter a whole lot if you like or dis-like
Ralph's posts. According to what he said, I think that he's just
about posted ALL the pics that he has in stock and once him and
Angel Tie the knot, He may not be posting anymore period.
Chief_Wiggum
03-27-06, 14:57
I saw Joy when she worked as Tina at Executive in Belvidere. Joy/Tina from ERS isn't the Joy on CL that WorldWise is referring to, unless my eyesight is going bad. Joy/Tina has an obviously fake rack and is like 20 years older (though pretty good looking, even the fake rack if you're into that type of thing). Joy/Tina was advertising on Tommydream. Chicago Brooke might know her whereabout better.
Joy looks super solid, imo. I'd be willing to try if services can be confirmed. Rockford girls typically aren't ROBs, but I've read enough reports to know they're on the street.
Crittenden
03-28-06, 00:28
I visited the new place in Love Park, per a challenge in this thread several days ago.
This is my first oppportunity to contribute. Long tome lurker, & such BS.
Typical AMP, three rooms, table shower room, dry sauna, aged Mamasan. One "girl" working since Sunday is slow. Very clean. Aloof. Fearful. (Can't blame the given current affairs) Girl is older than most AMP workers, similay to the old Tokyo, she smokes (cigarettes) and it has taken some toll. About 5'5" and 100#, nicely enhanced but hard breasts.
Service is sub-par. I hope competition is soon forthcoming, and they pay their taxes.
WN,
what did the girl look like, description, age, etc.?
SexyMan5134
03-28-06, 18:58
I checked the place out Sunday late. The massuse was about 5' 5" late thirties, skinny ass, big boobs not too attractive, english marginal. Massage consisted having her rub icy hot on my back and shoulders with plastic gloves and putting hot towels on me and leaving me for 15 minutes. Then she covered me with a towel and stepped uncomfortably on my back. The worst massage I have ever had .
World Wise
03-30-06, 11:11
Spent last evening in Rockford, checking out the track. Nothing like before the big sweep last November, but reasonable activity.
Saw several on Lower 7th Street, in the usual spots. Two WSWs working together outside the pawn shop, just north of the RR tracks on 7th. Found a lovely new young blond, who certaintly acted like she was working, but must have made me for LE, and twice refused a ride from me face-to-face. About 20-23, maybe 5" and 100#. Shoulder length hair, and a sexy belly shirt and jeans. Saw her on Broadway near 9th and again on 7th by the quick mart.
Anyway, met up with a new friend named Jennifer, and she took me to her crib at 5th street and 6th Ave Court. About 5'3", dirty blong hair, maybe 110# tops, and about 20 y/o. Almost no tits, but an interesting body, with some interesting ink. Did our business for two jacksons, and was on my way. No contact info, other than the "just drive by and honk your horn".
Mister Quick
04-01-06, 13:04
Not been to Rockford for awhile. Made several trips to QC that were unproductive. Last one was work related and would not have gone other wise. Been thinking on heading to Rockford this weekend, weather dependent. QC is about 10 miles closer for me and gas is always cheaper there. But failing to find anything is not much of an inducement to keep going there.
Reason of this post was for artcile spotted in the paper about a new law few of my comments are in ALL CAPS:
Bill would let prostitutes sue pimps
By CHRISTOPHER WILLS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published Friday, March 31, 2006
Prostitutes who are exploited by pimps and attacked by customers would be able to take their abusers to court under a plan nearing approval in the Illinois legislature.
Advocates say the lawsuits would help victimized women, and some men, start new lives. They also would take some of profit out of forcing people into the sex trade. THE GOVERNEMENT OF COURSE COULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR GIRLS TO GET OUT. INSTEAD OF ARRESTING THEM. MAKING THEM PAY A FINE, AND THEN THROWING THEM BACK ON THE STREETS TO DO MORE OF THE SAME TO PAY THE FINE. ELIMINATING DRUG DEALERS MIGHT ALSO HELP.
"It's a very lucrative business. There's a lot of money to be made, and it's being made on the backs of these women who are damaged for life," said Jennifer Kottler, deputy director of Protestants for the Common Good. "What we're saying now is that they have some civil recourse."
The Senate approved the measure, House Bill 1299, Thursday by a vote of 45-9. It now goes to the House, which has approved similar legislation in the past. Gov. Rod Blagojevich's office said he hasn't looked at the issue yet.
Opponents predicted prostitutes would abuse the right to sue - by filing lawsuits against pimps they don't like, for instance. They also said the bill should allow lawsuits by people living in neighborhoods frequented by prostitutes.
"The real victim is neither the pimp, the john nor the prostitute," added Sen. Ed Petka, a Plainfield Republican running for judge in Will County. "The real victim is the wronged spouse." THEN I GUESS THERE IS NO VICTIM IF THE JOHN IS SINGLE< DIVORCED or A WIDOWER... LIKE ME.
It might be possible for prostitutes to sue right now, say the legislation's supporters. But without legal precedents or a specific law to support the suit, they would have little chance of succeeding.
Florida, Hawaii and Minnesota have similar laws, although few lawsuits have been filed in those states, supporters say. They argue the Illinois version has been refined and would be used more as prostitutes and lawyers realized this kind of lawsuit is possible.
Under the Illinois legislation, for instance, prostitutes could sue without running the risk of being prosecuted for prostitution. That's because the window for filing lawsuits would not close until after the statute of limitations for prostitution has expired, ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS IS? COULD A GIRL GET ARRESTED A COUPLE YEARS AFTER GETTING PICKED UP? said Samir Goswami, associate director of policy for the Chicago Coalition for the Homeless, a key supporter of the bill.
Prostitutes also would be able to sue customers who inflict bodily harm on them. I THINK THERE ARE SOME CRIMINAL LAWS ON THE BOOK AGAINST THIS. THIS CRIME DOES HAVE A VICTIM.
Advocates say the legal system rarely holds pimps responsible for their role in prostitution, which is illegal in Illinois.
Chicago saw about 3,200 arrests for prostitution in 2004 and about 900 for hiring a prostitute, Goswami said, but the number of pimps arrested each year is 30 or fewer. I DO NOT THINK EVERY SW HAS A PIMP. NONE I HAVE PICKED UP HAVE MENTIONED ONE. PLUS EACH PIMP COULD HAVE 109 GIRLS.
THEY SHOULD LASO LET THE GIRLS WHO GET HOOKED ON DRUGS SUE THEIR DEALER. MAKES SENSE IF SOMEONE CAN SUE McDONALDS FOR GETTING FAT.
[QUOTE=Ralph]Not been on here in awhile, Had something happen that thought could not happen and will be changing my life forever. Not soe=mething bad just bad right now.
Let me guess.....Angel is pregnant ? Best of Luck !!
You did say that you were probably getting married, so, I assumed !
Sort of looks that way, baby is coming sometime in November. Seems Angel can be VERY scattered brain and forgot to get a recharge of her birth control in December. I would consider this something important to do. I never paid any attention to the details of all this. all I knew was she got a shot or something and can't get pregnant. Kind of figured something was a bit wrong on spring break trip to England. Thought it was just a bit about her first time on a plane and jet lag. Her dad has had an aversion to flying since he was shot down in a helicopter in Viet Nam. She has traveled lots been to all the Canadian provinces and 48 states (no Hawaii (cant drive there) or Mass. (too many liberals).
There is going to be a wedding real soon. The plan had been: finish school, get married then get pregnant. She got the order reversed. Both a good thing and a bad. 11 years ago I figured I would be married and have kid(s) by now. That all sort of changed when fiance, parents and kid brother were killed in car accident-- a month before the wedding-- worst day of my life. I had been with her for as long as angel has been alive since we were best friends since kindergarten. Angel has had a real hard time accepting the fact that I will never really get over her and that I am still very close to her family. Her brothers kids consider me their uncle and think it is cool that they are getting a cousin- although don't see them playing a lot together since they are both in high school. Maybe babysitting.
I have been told kids are expensive, may wind up having to get a job instead of living off my inheritance and a hobby business designed more just to give me something to do rather than make $$$.
I don't think that it will matter a whole lot if you like or dis-like
Ralph's posts. According to what he said, I think that he's just about posted ALL the pics that he has in stock and once him and Angel Tie the knot, He may not be posting anymore period.
You are right I am running out of pictures to post and at some point will not have any more. Ci-Traveler will have to find someone else to complain about. Did find another camera while cleaning out the summer car the other day. Not driven it since trip to Florida during semester break. It is half full and I have no idea what the pictures are of, but I would venture to guess they are of some girls I picked up.
I suspect I will look at the website even when I am done. I do care for a number of the girls I picked up over the years. And do like to find out how they are doing. I Fell for a couple of them and suspect I would have fallen for a few more had I not realized they were a lost cause.I am not the only one who has done this several girls I have met have told me they have had regulars who had fallen for them and offered to help them get there life back in shape but for some reason (self destructive tendencies of some sort)They have did not accept the offer-- I have seen some of these girls names in the arrest reports. One girl who kept saying she wanted to go into drug treatment was surprised when i told her I would come visit her there, even after being told we could not have sex there. She di leave my name as an approved visitor, it seems these places that will not even tell you a patient is there if you are not on the list. She however had checked herself out after a couple of days (she was there of her own accord) so did not get to see her there. Told her I had come to see her when i next found her a month or two later and she seemed surprised and asked me if I really did care what happened to her. No one else she knew came to see her while she was there.
Here are some more pictures.
This one is Tabitha. She was not a regular SW but said she did it from time to time when money was tight. since she did work retail with a full time job. Only saw her once. she had enough meat on her bones to suggest she was not a crack user. Told me she was living with parents and did nt provide a last name or phone number since they did not know what she was up to. She also said she did not want to get involved with any guy since any one she dated turned out to be an asshole. So she had not gotten some for awhile and was very horny. Took her to the notel. She said she would spend the whole night for about what I would have expected to pay for a one time thing. Took her up on the offer (I always have an extra days change of clothes with me). Did her once then took her to dinner at the Denny's then back to notel for another very long session. In the morning did it again and then she had me take her out to the Mall where she said she worked although she did NOt want me coming in there following her. I gave her my number and told her to call if she wanted to do it again, since I was in the area on a regular basis did not hear from her.·
Joey Greco
04-01-06, 22:56
Went to Rockford early Saturday afternoon with the intent of hanging with some chums to watch George Mason-Florida and UCLA-LSU games at one of the bars on E. State. Got up there - from Elgin - earlier than expected and boy, did I get a surprise.
Stopped at the mini-mart near the Happy Wok on E. State just east of Alpine to get some Certs. Wasn't even thinking of doing The Stroll because of all the posts about the dearth of any good touristn possibilities and pervasive LEO.
Was just getting in my car in front of the Wok when I noticed a girl kind of lurking around the corner near the used car lot. Cute, young for sure and was furitively eyeballing me.
I got in my car, started it and glanced again in her direction. She was staring, from beneath a faded red hoodie with blue jeans and gym shoes. Blonde-ish hair, maybe 5-3, perhaps 120 lbs., not at all bad-looking or too disheveled.
Anyway, I pulled over toward her instead of turning back on to E. State. We continued to exhange The Look, one that to me was quickly becoming a Look of Commerce.
I pulled over in front of her, lowered the passenger window and asked, "Can I give you a lift somewhere?"
She checked out the car, smartly, and got in. She said her name was Jill and that she was from "up north," which I later found out was South Beloit. Claimed she played bkb at SoBel HS - inquiry sign posted - and that she was visiting an aunt for the weekend. Said that aunt was boring and was working this afternoon at some store over at the (Cherryvale?) mall.
Anyway, I asked what she was looking for. She replied, "To make the day happy." I asked if any generosity would make her happy. She said, "Generosity comes in a lot of forms."
I told her she looked like Jessica Alba and that I didn't have a lot of time. She asked if I had any Coldplay in my CD pak. I said I did, plus I had $40 in my pocket for her. She asked if I'd like a blowjob.
We wound up going way back in some parking lot further east on State. I think it was a buffet restaurant that isn't doing too well. I unzipped, she engulfed and the rest was R-town rock 'n roll.
After we were done, she asked if I've ever been in The Oh Zone. I said I had, a couple of time, with a couple players from the Rockford hockey team a few winters ago. I asked her if she knew it was an "alternative" bar and she said that's why she wanted to go in there. Claimed she had met a he/she Filipino from California who worked in a bank in Rockford - as a girl - and that they were probably going to wind up there tonight.
I said I was going to meet some chums to watch basketball later in the day. I got digits - she said she's been in Rockford three of the last five weekends. I dropped her near the bookstore further east on State and her parting words to me were, "With your, thing, you really shouldn't be paying for it."
I doffed the bill of my cap and drove back toward the river to meet my friends.
PsyberZombie
04-02-06, 08:39
Seems Angel can be VERY scattered brain and forgot to get a recharge of her birth control in December. I would consider this something important to do. I never paid any attention to the details of all this.
I have been told kids are expensive, may wind up having to get a job instead of living off my inheritance and a hobby business designed more just to give me something to do rather than make $$$.
Having kids is the most expensive mistake you'll ever make , Ralph =
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=360539&postcount=2184
And , before you agree to commit Financial Suicide = are you SURE the kid is YOURS ??
http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/paternity_test_results.html
Good Luck , Buddy = yer gonna need it !!
Hey, saw Trina come up. She looks real rough on the peoria PD website. But, not too long ago, she was ok for a roll in the hay. Face down with that ass up. Man, oh man. LOL
Captain Stiffy
04-02-06, 18:28
Are there ANY adult book stores in the Rockford area, or surrounding towns? A city this big, you would think so.
Thanks
Spramanator
04-02-06, 22:17
Are there ANY adult book stores in the Rockford area, or surrounding towns? A city this big, you would think so.
Thanks
The only one I know of is in Beloit off of 90. They sell magazines, toys, games, movies, fetish and gag gifts. I can't remember the name off hand but when I do I will post it.
Sprammy
Spramanator
04-02-06, 22:26
Sort of looks that way, baby is coming sometime in November.
Wow congrats Ralph. Good luck!
Sprammy
Think with head one so head two can have some fun!
Naughty But Nice.
Shopiere Road
[QUOTE=Ralph][QUOTE=Jimbo33]
Sort of looks that way, baby is coming sometime in November. Seems Angel can be VERY scattered brain and forgot to get a recharge of her birth control in December.
Damn...I must have ESP.
Joey Greco
04-03-06, 15:33
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Corndog #2
04-03-06, 18:55
Ralph, my man. She is clearly your best one yet. I'm actually jealous. If you ever find her again, send her my way! Well done, my friend! (Hey! She's not a porn star, is she? Just kidding.)
Mister Quick
04-04-06, 15:21
Had thought of coming to Rockford on Sunday. Bad weather so decided not to. Came on Monday night instead weather a bit more accomodating.
Right off the bat found a a fairly attactive WSW and offered her a ride. Said her name was Michelle. She was in her 20's. Told me she was not from the area and worked as a high priced escort in several other parts of the country. She was in town for a court date- no details. She told me the minimum she would want for anything was $200 more than I wanted to pay, or could afford at. Quickly let her go. She was pissed off at me.
A bit later I picked up a younger girl. Dark short curly hair. She told me her name, I recognised it as someone who has been in arrest reports on here. Made the mistake of asking her if her full name was xxxx yyyyy. She said yes and was sort of freaked out. Asked how I knew. Told her saw her online. She asked me to not give her name out if I talked about her, so I am not. I may wanna see her again a got a cell phone number belonging to a friend's boyfriend to contact her on. Not taking any bets that I can reach her that way.
Took her to the short term motel just south of the bypass. Been there before. She looked a bit rougher when she took off her clothes. She was 19, told me she had lost about 70 lbs since high school- she was upset that most of it had come from her tits. Wonder if drugs had any thing to do wiht it. She acted like she was not a drug user, arrest report siad other wise. Made out for awhile before getting to the main event. She said she was a nympho and really liked sex. She has a part time job in fast food but can use the extra cash and likes doing this. She also mentioned a 47 year old boyfriend who could not keep her satisfied. In one of those Springer moments she also said he was married but his wife does not mind him screwing her since that means the wife does not have to put out.
She also mentioned something else I had not seen mentioned here. It appears as if there are some guys in town now making amatuer porn movies. The gimic of them is that the girls are all streetwalkers. The guys are their clients. She had been in one sene and gotten $500 for it, the guys aren't paid. She seemed to like me enough to ask if I wanted to be in another scene with her. I declined, no desire to be a porn stud. She acted like it was a limited time offer since they would be going on to another town. This means some of the girl's whose pictures have been posted here really could become porn stars!
Mister Quick
04-04-06, 16:58
I recently went to Iowa and looked at craigslist ads there befoer i went. Did not hook up with any girls.
I checked the ones from Chicago and saw a few girls who said theyw ere from Rockford.
Anyne seen them or know about them? I am a bit relucatnat to spend a lot of money on an unknown thing. I posted a pic of a Des Moines girl I called before I came to twon nd then wasunable to contact when I got there. And another member said she was a SW from San Diego! Thus soem of these giels may be on the street at some point.
They all had 815 phone numbers, but according to rules I cant post them here.
This one is Joy she had a number of pics in several different ads.
I did NOT take these pictures
There must be LOTS of guys just lurking here, between the time I posted the final of my 3 queries and noticed that one of the pictures did not load 19 people had looked at the first picture. More of you guys should contribute! I just uploaded these but I can understand how if you had to take the pic then scan it in and then just get flamed how you might not be happy.
Mister Quick
04-04-06, 17:00
AnotherCL girl. Only one pic.
again wondering if anyone knows anything about her.
Mister Quick
04-04-06, 17:03
The final girl in the Chicago craigslist from the rockford area. Goes by name of Sunny anyone know of her?
I think they may get more ads and responses if they had two for IL one Chicago and the rest of the state. Same for Iowa. saw two QC girls in DSM section. Been unable to contact either.
In my opinion thisis the best looking of the 3.
i can't vouch for the quality of service, but i have seen her advertise on other boards around chicago. she is with a service.
Mister Quick
04-05-06, 13:53
Noticed that on the pics I put up yesterday some have already had over 700 look sess. Yet only one other person knows anyhting about any of the girls and his info was hearsay- not first hand experience. Did not know there were that many guys looking in Rockford.
Would be nice if more of you guys contribute something. I enjoy reading what you guys who do contribute do so. Granted not all the things I have put up are originals- I found the pictures (said so)- and some are from newspaper stories- but IMHO many of my reports have first hand info I would myself find useful, had someone else posted it.
Everyone looks at the pictures: do you think we get the magazine for the stories?
As for those "first-hand" stories, I try to post mine. Although the reason those stories exist is the desire for a second hand.
Captain Stiffy
04-05-06, 20:26
"saw two QC girls in DSM section. Been unable to contact either.
In my opinion thisis the best looking of the 3."
(I don't know how to put someone's statement in quotes) :)
Anyway, that's gotta be one of the best looking SWs I ever seen posted, for this area. I usually stick to the AMPS, but I'd pick that shit up!
"
In my opinion thisis the best looking of the 3."
(I don't know how to put someone's statement in quotes) :)
Anyway, that's gotta be one of the best looking SWs I ever seen posted, for this area. I usually stick to the AMPS, but I'd pick that shit up!
Who said these girls were SWs? These were girls advertising in CL, right? Not really the same thing.
Mister Quick
04-06-06, 09:48
A couple of the girls I picked up in Rockford mentioned a place called Flying Saucer. Never was able to find it, guess they changed the name before I ever came to town. The place however made the paper today. I think I saw rference to the place on here more than once.
Code violations shut down motel
Officials say the site, which has a reputation for illegal activities, was the home of 15 people.
ROCKFORD — Bharat Patel had lots of questions Wednesday, and chief among them was why city officials were shutting down his 11th Street business, The Sunset Motel, and kicking out the 15 people staying there.
City Attorney Jennifer Cacciapaglia’s answer was direct:
“Why are we shutting it down? We’re shutting it down because of all the hookers and the drugs, that’s why,” she told the hotel owner. “And you’re not getting this place back until you clean everything up. And if you don’t clean it up, we’re going to keep this place shut down for a year.”
Drugs, prostitution and other crime have long plagued the rickety rooming house, formerly called The Flying Saucer Motel, 2004 11th St. Police have made four drug deals at the motel since Sept. 27. A woman arrested Saturday on narcotics charges told police she goes there to buy drugs, and the hotel manager was recently arrested for possession of cocaine.
The final straw came last month. A man living at the motel sneaked into a machine shop next door and assaulted the owner, Rod Savage, and his daughter, Tiffany. The assailant broke Rod Savage’s nose, which required surgery. A month earlier, a different man living at the motel broke into Savage’s truck and stole his boots and his license plates.
The recent spate of crime and the motel’s reputation as a safe haven for illegal drug activity makes it dangerous to the neighborhood, Cacciapaglia said. On Wednesday, a throng of police and city and state’s attorneys arrived at 11 a.m. to serve Patel with a restraining order that bars anyone from occupying the property for 10 days.
Patel declined to comment. City officials will sue to seize the motel for up to a year unless Patel signs a contract with the city that outlines steps he will take to eliminate the criminal activity and building and health code violations.
City social workers made temporary living arrangements for all of the motel residents and will find more stable quarters for them in the days ahead.
Inspectors from the city’s building and fire departments and the Winnebago County Health Department met a dizzying array of odors, sights and characters as they emptied the motel room by room.
“I don’t want to stereotype or generalize, but several of the people occupying these rooms are known to us as being involved in prostitution,” said Rockford Police Sgt. Mike Booker.
A few moments earlier, a woman ran from her room and greeted Booker with a loud and friendly: “Hey!”
Booker knew the woman from her previous run-ins with the law.
“Are you doing crack today?” Booker asked her.
“Of course I am,” she replied. “But why did you guys have to come so early and wake everybody up?”
City building inspector Jim Vronch found only one working smoke detector after surveying the 11 motel rooms. He also found a wall heater installed dangerously close to a gas pipe, and a hot water heater that was installed improperly and missing a city inspection tag.
Outside the building, laundry vents were stuffed with lint and cigarette butts, also a fire hazard. Back in the motel rooms, people were using electrical hot plates to cook food and space heaters were placed inches from gas pipes. All of the bathrooms had ceiling ventilation fans inside the shower stalls — “an electrical hazard if I ever saw one,” Vronch said.
“This is ... ludicrous,” said Jessica Williams, as she carried food and clothes from her room to her mother Rhonda’s car.
Williams and her boyfriend, Matt Thomas, planned to stay at Rhonda’s house for the night until they found another place to live.
“The police just came in, and she was still sleeping,” Thomas said, gesturing to Jessica. “She was still undressed. We didn’t even get a chance to eat our Cheerios.”
Rod Savage, the Machinist Tool owner next door to the motel, said he’s happy the city is taking aggressive action.
“We moved the business here from Seventh Street in September 1999,” Savage said. “We honestly thought we were moving into a better neighborhood. If I didn’t own this building, I would have left Rockford more than a year ago. But I have to say the Police Department has been great. I call them so much, sometimes I feel like I’m being a pest.”
Hi Mr. Quick. I've seen Joy's ads, but seldom get up to Rockford. If I have the opportunty, I'll take one for the team and try her. Maybe you should do the same, and then post here. We'll see who gets to her first.
Bend It
Captain Stiffy
04-06-06, 14:04
That article was a comedy goldmine! From “Are you doing crack today?” Booker asked her.
“Of course I am,” to "We didn't even get a chance to eat our Cheerios"! HAHA Too bad they shut down a cheap place to take dates, though. Some of those electric & gas violations sound pretty scary, too.
Chief_Wiggum
04-06-06, 14:52
I was wondering when the Saucer was going to get pinched. That place is a hole and has been steadily getting worse. The owner is Indian? Wow, I thought he was Mexican. Must be an absentee landlord. Well guys, just drive around until you find a clearing. I'm pretty sure that there's another no-tell. I guess the price of mongering has just gone up. Oh, and if i was going up to RFD any time soon (though I might be) I would totally hit Joy. GFE? I would want it at those prices.
World Wise
04-07-06, 10:21
The FS was owned by a Korean family until Aug 04. Remember the old "mama-san" who used to open the door for us, and never look anyone in the eye? They sold out to a Mexican family headed by Jaun who started letting girls stay there who serviced him and his buddies. When his family figured that out, they sold to a Patel who ends up holding the bag, it seems.
There are at least two other motels in Rockford that I know of that have low short term rates, but none as wel known as the Sunset Motel.
Mister Quick
04-07-06, 10:45
Hi Mr. Quick. I've seen Joy's ads, but seldom get up to Rockford. If I have the opportunty, I'll take one for the team and try her. Maybe you should do the same, and then post here. We'll see who gets to her first.
I also do not get to Rockford all that often, most of the trips have been just to come looking for girls. I live about as far away as Chicago in a different toll free direction. Not yet tried calling up a girl to meet. All my experiences have been either SW (most all of them) or at the lingerie shop (one time). Just wondering if the girls online are legit or scams, they do tend to want a lot more $$$ for the same thing.
Did find another one in Rockford with a website and some pics.
http://www.zyworld.com/Independentforu/Home.htm
Her name is Justice. If memory serves me correctly the pictures look a lot like the inside of the Chantilly Lace LS I went to a few weeks ago. I paid more attention to the girl than the room. Was wondering if this is actually pictures from there or across the street. Have not called since I do not know when I'll be in town again. But if that is the case that means at least one of the girls at these places will see guys outside of work. Anyone no about her or if this theory is true?
One of the pictures on the website was a bit faded so I tried to make it look better.
Hey Rockford folks, I'm working on a FAQ for the hobby in Wisconsin, and I'm listing options that are within easy driving distance. I've never been to one of Rkfd's lingerie shops, but I've read about them here, and I'm wondering if any of you can help with some info?
From what I have been able to find easily, it goes like this. Go in, pay $75 for a doorless room with a hot (or not-so-hot) girl in lingerie, and she will model for you and you can service yourself. Tip her, and you can get service from her. FS can be had, but usually not on the first visit. The girls vary in looks and frequently have bad attitudes; it is pretty much the definition of YMMV.
Is that pretty accurate? What are the standard tip levels?
Thanks!
Looks like someone else has decided to ost some pictures on here. It seems that they are all taken form elsewhere. Someone else on here needs to start taking some and posting them since my stash is nearing empty. Although not there yet...
Ralph, my man. She is clearly your best one yet. I'm actually jealous. If you ever find her again, send her my way! Well done, my friend! (Hey! She's not a porn star, is she? Just kidding.)
Actaully a fair number of the better looking ones asked me not to post any pictures online or show to my friends. Not that at the time I had the ability to post online. A few asked for no naked pictures to be posted online or else to not show their face requests that I have honored.
She also mentioned something else I had not seen mentioned here. It appears as if there are some guys in town now making amatuer porn movies. The gimic of them is that the girls are all streetwalkers. The guys are their clients. She had been in one sene and gotten $500 for it, the guys aren't paid. She seemed to like me enough to ask if I wanted to be in another scene with her. I declined, no desire to be a porn stud. She acted like it was a limited time offer since they would be going on to another town. This means some of the girl's whose pictures have been posted here really could become porn stars!
Looks like she could become a porn star, if the girl Mr Quick picked up is telling him the truth. Anyone else here about this? I would find it interesting to see. Might find some familiar faces in the videos.
Sort of looks that way, baby is coming sometime in November. Seems Angel can be VERY scattered brain and forgot to get a recharge of her birth control in December.
Damn...I must have ESP.
I do not think that you have ESP. You just have the ability to read between the lines. Will be getting married on the aniversary of our first meeting later this month. Grandparents to be seem to be happy about it all. Which I guess is good for all involved.
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You guys must be getting desperate if someone has decided to join the gay boy butt banging brigade. I'd do the vow of celabicy before going there.
Saw the Flying Saucer has been closed down. A fair number of the "fake" pictures I have taken were there. There are a couple more places that I know of in town that had the "nap" rates. Saw them quoted like that in short term places near a major airport. One is on the south side of town the other on the far west side.
Todays pics are of Nancy. She is one of the girls I never got any naked pictures of. Was hard enough to get her to let me take these ones. Saw her many times, but she never revealed much about herself, other than she was a college student up in Wisconsin. Nancy may not have even been her real name. First time she was out on the street. Took her to the notel on the south side of town. She would not give me a contact number but we did manage to arrange meetings next time I knew I'd be in town. I gave her my number and she would confirm before we met up at the notel. She always showed up and called if she was to be late. Seems she found a few guys she liked seeing on a regular basis and just stuck with them. I think one of them must have been a car dealer since she alwsy came to notel in a different car with WI dealer tags. She wanted a bit more $$ than most SW but was not rushed and would stick around as long as I wanted, even spent the whole night with me a few times. Last time I saw her she said she was graduating and had a job lined up elsewhere and thus would not be seeing me again. If she had not been so guarded about herself she may have been one I would have wanted to try keeping.
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I like to keep abreast of the action in Memphis, because it was where I First went to a Real down home "Nasty" Strip Club .... The "BottomsUp" near the MidSouth Coliesum.
Anyway Mr.Quick, the Video thing, is an old game. I use to shoot them for a guy out of LA, when he came to the Tri-State area of Cincinnati, Ohio. He paid the girl $100-200 at the time which was Big Money, and supplied all the drinks and food during shooting. He would get "ALL" to sign a release form, and he was in business. This was before the internet exploded, and everyone got connected. He sold his stuff mainly in ads, in the Low Class Porn Mags.
Because I knew he personally I got paid very well to shoot it for him. We would rent the equipment (Lights and Camera), and the girls were plentiful then. Even a few College girls took part, and they got paid more, and the men then got all the Condom Sex they could handle, feed, lot to drink, and at the end of shooting $50. NOT BAD AT ALL.
Now that anyone can make a Sex Movie with a Cheap Digital Camera, everyone is doing it, and i don't think the girl was getting $500, unless she was getting GangBanged by a small Mob. More like $100-200 with a signed release. No Release, No MONEY !!!!
WORD .... !!!!
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She also mentioned something else I had not seen mentioned here. It appears as if there are some guys in town now making amatuer porn movies. The gimic of them is that the girls are all streetwalkers. The guys are their clients. She had been in one sene and gotten $500 for it, the guys aren't paid. She seemed to like me enough to ask if I wanted to be in another scene with her. I declined, no desire to be a porn stud. She acted like it was a limited time offer since they would be going on to another town. This means some of the girl's whose pictures have been posted here really could become porn stars!
Thanks for posting those pics of Nancy, Ralph. I feel your pain. She looks like a keeper and your GFE experience posts are a worthy tale.
Would that all our experiences were as pleasurable. It's a rare occassion to run across a keeper experience. Did you really just find her on the street?
Anyway, the pics are good enough I'd keep them if I had a shot of running into her, wrong part of the country.
Best of luck and keep posting.
-blaths
Chief_Wiggum
04-10-06, 13:46
Her name is Justice. If memory serves me correctly the pictures look a lot like the inside of the Chantilly Lace LS I went to a few weeks ago. I paid more attention to the girl than the room. Was wondering if this is actually pictures from there or across the street. The place, I believe, is Chantilly Lace. I recognize the door divider thing. However, I can't remember if both Chantilly and Exclusive had sinks in them, I'm pretty sure they both had, but Exclusive had them in all the rooms.
Since the zoning changes, girls have had an increasingly hard time making cash at the lingerie shops. They had a hard time even before the big collapse. I'm surprised more girls aren't out on the streets. I've never seen Justice before, but she doesn't look all that bad.
My theory: Take out is usually with girls who have been there awhile. If you can do fs in the shop, then you can probably take it out as well. Take out was (I haven't been to these places in a while, so I don't know if my info is current) or is easier at Exclusive. If it's available at Chantilly, typically it's from an older girl.
Chief_Wiggum
04-10-06, 13:50
Hey Rockford folks, I'm working on a FAQ for the hobby in Wisconsin, and I'm listing options that are within easy driving distance. I've never been to one of Rkfd's lingerie shops, but I've read about them here, and I'm wondering if any of you can help with some info?
From what I have been able to find easily, it goes like this. Go in, pay $75 for a doorless room with a hot (or not-so-hot) girl in lingerie, and she will model for you and you can service yourself. Tip her, and you can get service from her. FS can be had, but usually not on the first visit. The girls vary in looks and frequently have bad attitudes; it is pretty much the definition of YMMV.
Is that pretty accurate? What are the standard tip levels?
Thanks!
I forgot tip levels, but I think you just double the room rate, however, it's not MSOG; one shot and you're done. FS is easier at Exclusive (generally); and, younger and hotter chicks (but they have their share of older) are at Chantilly (generally, and worse service, too). There is an extra charge for credit card use, like $10?
The rooms aren't doorless. They have half-doors (lower). The girl adds privacy by adding that dressing screen.
My theory: Take out is usually with girls who have been there awhile. If you can do fs in the shop, then you can probably take it out as well. Take out was (I haven't been to these places in a while, so I don't know if my info is current) or is easier at Exclusive. If it's available at Chantilly, typically it's from an older girl.I tried several of the LS and never was very happy with my experience at them.
There are girls on the street that work at or worked at a LS and sometimes SW go and work at the LS. Jodi ? Carrie who went on the crack diet and whose pics I posted a bit back is one of them.
This is another of them. Real name, that she used on the street, is Erin. One of my favorites from the summer of 2003. This pic is from our first date, rest in various states of undress on later dates were made with me promising they would not be shown to anyone without her permission. Picture does not do her justice, she is much better looking. She has copies of many of them so she would know where thay came from if I posted them here.
Met Erin near 8th & Broadway. She was a real fun girl and acted like she actaully enjoyed sex. True GFE even took her to dinner a few times. She had just broken up with a boyfriend who had expected her to support him. She was 20 and had a low paying "real" job and had just started supplementing that income on the street. She was living with her grandmother and many younger siblings out in Manchesney Park. I met her grandmother once and she was over joyed that Erin was dating a white guy who seemed to have money and a job. Guess her ex was not white, knew he had no money.
did her in the notel a number fo times although at some point in the summer someone introduced her to the SW drug of choice-- crack cocaine. This did not sit well with her grandmother and she got kicked out and I did not date Erin again. Grandmother asked me to stop calling which I did.
Last spring I saw erin again at a gas station up in Manchesny Park. She at first did not recognize me nor did I her. Finally remembered me as the guy who liked French kissing and took a bunch of nasty pics of her. She had dyed her hair red. I was staring at her since I have a thing for redheads. Never seemed to find that many redheaded SW :( She was looking real good, guess she had stopped crack. asked if she wanted to do another date. She told me that she could not. Told me she was now married and had a kid wished her best of luck. She then asked if I wanted to fuk her again. I replied something to the effect of wil you said you were married and not wanting to date. Todl me she was now working at a Lingerie Shop, using a name I forget- might have been Janet or Jenna, something started with J. She said if I wanted to come there we could fuck. Bit puzzled by it all, then she said but there I charge $200 (lots more than before) and that I could not do many of the things I enjoyed doing with her. Plus there was extra money to pay the LS. I said I did not want to coem see her there but would have no objections getting together with her like we had before. I could understand why she might not want to see a guy on the outside that she met there- most likely against the boss' rules and also she has less control of what happens if the guy turns out to be a nutter. But I had seen her often before and knew her relaitively well. She falt out stated that she was not "That kind of girl" No idea if she is still working at the LS. Maybe someone who frequents those places can let me knwo if she is arond.
Bottom line some girls at the LS may see you outside others will not even if they know you. In any case I think once they start working there they get an over inflated idea of their worth.
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Thanks for posting those pics of Nancy, Ralph. I feel your pain. She looks like a keeper and your GFE experience posts are a worthy tale.
Would that all our experiences were as pleasurable. It's a rare occassion to run across a keeper experience. Did you really just find her on the street?
Anyway, the pics are good enough I'd keep them if I had a shot of running into her, wrong part of the country.
Best of luck and keep posting.
-blaths
Found Nancy on the street the first time. after that it was arranged meetings, she would call me. She was a bit paranoid since she was planning on becoming a lawyer and did not want it to be known how she paid for her lawyering school. she also never really reveled anough about herslef to give me any leads to try tracking her down. This was a few years back. Had she been a bit more open about herslef I may have tried to keep her. But as she was she wasa bit paranoid and the times I spent the whole night with her she did not want ot go out for dinner and risk being seen but rather we would get something a ta drive though or carry out and bring it to the room.
Over the years found a few girls that I wanted to try keeping adn one that I am. at first thought that was how it was suppoed to be since first SW I picked up was down in Florida. She was a college student on vacation with a friend, I was only 3 years older than her. They had wrecked tranny in their car by getting stuck in sand on beach. To avoid proving to their parents that they could not handle a trip to FL themselves, they decied to raise the money via the old sex for money. The motel they were in was not the highest class one in the world and before the incident with the car they had been propositioned a few times. This was a couple months after my life had hit the shitter big time and I innocently offered her a ride, when I learned what she was up to I perhaps foolishly offered her the money they had not raised to pay for the entire repair if she would be my girlfriend for the rest of the week. She agreed. She was actaully from the midwest and the week wound up lasting about six months. I put many miles on the car seeing her each weekend. The realtionship ended when her father somehow found out how we met and she disappeared without a trace. I got a very nasty letter from him stating his daughter "Was not that kind of girl" and a money order for more than I had given her in Florida. Kept the money order around for almost a year before cashing it.
It was not until my second "date" with a SW (in Rockford) did I realise that most of the girls who do this are of the for lack of a better term trailer trash material.
Hey Ralph, I'm surprised that your critics haven't said anything
about your posts of Nancy. That is one FINE looking girl. Certainly
not the type you find on the streets of Rockyford, or ANY where
else for that matter. A girl like THAT could find lots of cash in
Hollywood or She could be living at the Playboy Mansion with Hugh
Heffner.
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