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LoveLOS
01-02-07, 02:44
LL and others coming west @ end of the month. We are planning a lot of party time in Nogales. PM if anybody wants to join us in our debauchery.

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
01-03-07, 03:28
Hey Baltimore Benz, Ed, Pdubs, SH, DN, etc:

Are we there yet?

Ed...
01-03-07, 14:05
Excitement fills the air....

LoveLOS
01-03-07, 23:32
Excitement fills the air....I just finished reading ISG for the entire NW border towns section in anticipation of your guided tour of the crew to new territory...

Still, the literary highlight has to be Munchies latest, very stimulating, trip reports. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=547300#post547300) Ten of them in all, a good read.

26 days...

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
01-10-07, 22:34
Guys in Ties...
These are the bane of the Nogales strip club. They get you drinks, and escort girls to your table, and try to sell you dances, sexo, and ask you for a tip for their "services." A general pain in the ass.

OTOH, and there usually is an OH; sometimes they really are worth the tip. Ferinstance, the guy at Obsessions that takes care of us:

He has some private stock. And if you have a favorite chica, he will usually get her into his rolodex. He has been known to call them often enough, even in afternoons, when the clubs are closed. If they have quit dancing or moved to another bar and are still willing providers, he keeps in touch and has hooked me up. He know me well enough to pick out the winners out of the stable, prime them to meet me, etc. Three Ms LoveLOS's have come from his handpicks. What can I say, that works for me? We get more time in the back rooms, we get the occasional free drink, none of the other customers or the other guys in ties fuck with us, or keep pressing us for drink orders. Most importantly :D we don't pay cover.

If your spanish is weak, my suggestion is to befriend, or pretend to befriend, one of the guys in ties...

Well, our guy Abe has moved to Bolerio. I bet he brings my Salma Hyack or spinner girl (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=433338&highlight=Salma+Hayek+spinner) over this year, HEHEHE Anyway, the stable there is usually high quality, so we may be spending a lot of time there. OTOH, there I am sure the other guys in ties at Obsessions will remember BB and I and we'll also get preferred treatment there. I love the thought of taking the pick of two whorehouses... Maybe we'll just fuck em all...

We are gonna have fun... Check your PMs if we have been talking about meeting up for a rountable party. Don't forget Super Sunday! Remember, it is the manditory night out with the guys... You can find out who won and the score on the way home on the radio...

18 days...
LoveLOS

Azrobert
01-13-07, 02:46
I will be heading down Sat evening, not sure if I am spending the night. Looking forward to trying the hotel listed in previous reports. Might be worth it to get a room even if I am not staying over. Would be nice to find an alternative to the clubs that is reasonablly priced. I am so tired of the over inflated clubs that used to be a blast, a lot of the people I have known for years are still there but the management seems to have tried everything possible to discourage us from traveling there from Phoenix. At some point we should just all say that enough is enough and do what we can to boycot the clubs. If the demand would dry up we would see the prices return to a more reasonable level very quickly.

LoveLOS
01-26-07, 02:29
Q: How do you drive a monger stir crazy? :confused:











A: Tell him he can have all the pussy he can fuck... :D





...next week! :mad:

4 Days...
LoveLOS

LoveLOS
01-30-07, 18:57
We are at ground zero and --- Fuuuuuuuck.

Body count is mounting. Have not has sex with anything below an 9 yet. Plan to keep it that way for a while...

Call me if you wnat to party, pm me if you dont have the number. that wil take a while - not online until manana.

LL

Aznoon
01-31-07, 12:00
We are at ground zero and --- Fuuuuuuuck.LOL. Guessing we should take this literally

Big Red50
01-31-07, 15:35
We are at ground zero and --- Fuuuuuuuck.

Body count is mounting. Have not has sex with anything below an 9 yet. Plan to keep it that way for a while...

Call me if you wnat to party, pm me if you dont have the number. that wil take a while - not online until manana.

LLCan a man have or ingest too much pussy?

Never there are three things a man can never have too much or to many off.

1. Horses
2. Guns, rifles or fire arms
3. Women or Pussy

Big Red Wisdom

T-2days and counting

LoveLOS
02-01-07, 06:33
LOL. Guessing we should take this literallySi
Can a man have or ingest too much pussy?

...

T-2days and countingNO, It cannot happen.

Looking forward to a major party when you arrive, mi amigo. t-1... The local boys haven't met up with us yet. If it takes a bunch of DC/Baltimore guys to have a party that's what will happen.

Thur party begins about 10:30pm in either Bolerios or Obsessions. You will know us because we will be dominating the bar and the prettiest girls. If you have my number, call me.

Night numero uno.

LL and BB arrived about 6pm from Tucson and were some what debilitated from our previous 24hours: A FS AMP visit,
DC USG Roundtable party that lasted until we left for the airport. Six hours of cramped seats and screaming kids, and a sucksessful visit to the Candy Store in Tucson. Five pops for LL, Four for BB. We were trashed.

We crossed over and Obsessions was closed (Mon) but Placers was open. We walked in and there was a stunning girl on stage, but LL happened to glance at another one by the bar that really looked his type. In retrospect they both were his type. LL met eyes and Shiela was soon in his lap. Eeuki finished her hot dance and was escorted to BB, atfer she changed... into a schoolgirl outfit. BB was a basket case...

The boyz exchanged looks and realized we both had two very fine looking chicas with good attitudes in our laps. They are both 9's. They were LL negotiated the price down from $180 to $150 for a FS quickie. This has set the tone for the rest of our trip. Go to the bar, find the two finest looking/fun girls, and accept no substitutes.

Shiela:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 7 (in club quickie)
$.5 + drinks

Eeuki:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 7 (in club quickie)
$.5 + drinks

We left Placers and checked into the Pancho Villa, then on to Bolerios...

TBC
LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-02-07, 16:55
We got to Bolerios and, of course, Abe was there with his usual promises of fine hand-picked booty. I have to admit that he has a decent track record. I was intoduced to Baby Doll, a cute little 19yo tight body with small tits and pretty face. She has medium brown hair and a party attitude. Looking good.

The second girl was busy cuddling with another client. The moment he failed to buy another ladies drink, we were presented with Yuki. Yuki was wearing a white, see thru body suit which ineffectively coverd one of the finest spinner bodies in the western hemisphere. We played some pool and negotiated a foursome in the room with both girls, whick they were OK with. Baby Doll likes tequilla, and we happened to have one in the room...

OK again, we are here with like six pops in 24 hours, and with some medications we had ingested, any thought of another pop was remote. However, LL and BB love DATY, and so do the pair we were with. I know that nobody would believe it if I were to post that we both had oral give and take with both

girls for two hours, LL fucked Babydoll for a while and we had a basic orgy. Go ahead, don't believe it, can't be true. We sent the girls back to the bar and ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Babydoll
Face: 7
Body: 9
Attitude: 10

Yuki
Face: 9
Body: 10
Attitude: 9

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-02-07, 16:59
Day 2

Woke up at the crack of late afternoon. We went stateside to get out legitimate hotel room, cleaned up and came back to Mex for lunch. A date with Sara had been scheuled for early evening. BB went back stateide and napped. If you have followed my posts, you know this one is a Ms LoveLOS, and ATF, yada yada yada. It was good. Her body is still recovering from the effects of her new bebe, with a bit of breeder hips and a tummy that is not quite as tight, but she is still super fine.

Sara
Face: 9
Body: 8
Attitude: 10

LL took Sara to lunch, which is now a part of our dates. Then he did the hardest thing yet, Called BB who had come back over and gone to our Mex hotel room. Delivering Sara to him was heart wrenching, but it's what real frienship is all about. And that is what tequlla is for.

LL retreated to Obsessions to drown his mental images of his best buddy fucking the dogshit out of his favorite girl. LL met an American on the way and we decided to party a while. He was a bit take aback when we entered Obs and Paulina attacked LL. LL was enjoying Paulinas attentions when a
familliar face appeared, another Ms LL... Lorania...

Just what the doctor ordered to make him forget Sara.

more to cum...

LoveLOS

Benchseats Rock
02-03-07, 06:32
I've just been shaken out of a good drunk sleep - the kind that follows 2 bottles of red wine and a bottle of Agavero by LoveLOS who gets a pass only because he is out on a rampage that involves 3 pops for him, 2 for BB (I think) who is in a compromised medical state and still going strong - 15 shots of the Blue Agave for each of them and a story of Mexican Cross Border bar hopping goodness that involves FS for $60 - yes gents, you heard me right, $60 FS and the discovery of the Mexicali version of Angelique (who is on my shitlist at the moment) and just as talented as our version with none of the attitude or mental issues.

As of now, by best estimate is 15 each for body count for our friends out there... I think this is a trip I am going to have to start saving up for so that I can attend next year.

I'm going back to bed now....

Merlin Magician
02-03-07, 10:40
Dudes! Them is some fine looking chicas. I'm goin to Nogi this aft.

Ed...
02-03-07, 19:45
BSR,

I think I saw the oddest thing last night. Two guys looking like LL and BB, complete with shot glasses glued to their lips and Chicas glued to their hips!

The strange thing was, these chaps were 60 miles to the east in the Abe-less no pressure town of AP. I suppose its not the first time one could get pretty far off the track with beer googles on.

Rumour has it there was even a few empty seats on the bus!

Ed...

Benchseats Rock
02-03-07, 21:36
BSR,

I think I saw the oddest thing last night. Two guys looking like LL and BB, complete with shot glasses glued to their lips and Chicas glued to their hips!

The strange thing was, these chaps were 60 miles to the east in the Abe-less no pressure town of AP. I suppose its not the first time one could get pretty far off the track with beer googles on.

Rumour has it there was even a few empty seats on the bus!

Ed...


Speaking of rumours...

As the semi sober target of drunk dialing mongers it is my duty to remind the entourage that someone owes me a detailed report of the 1/2 Japanese semi-civilian spotted at a lunch counter.

Monger On,

LoveLOS
02-04-07, 01:48
Dudes! Them is some fine looking chicas. I'm goin to Nogi this aft.You ain't seen nothin yet... Just finished editing my pics. Oh Hell, my reports are only on day 2... I'm on day 5... :eek:

Hittin it tonight, Super Sunday & Monday--assuming my body can keep up with my drive...

Will be at OBS until about midnight. Call me if you have the digits.

LL

Big Red50
02-04-07, 13:46
You ain't seen nothin yet... Just finished editing my pics. Oh Hell, my reports are only on day 2... I'm on day 5... :eek:

Hittin it tonight, Super Sunday & Monday--assuming my body can keep up with my drive...

Will be at OBS until about midnight. Call me if you have the digits.

LLMan you guys are painting the town, LL and BB I will need to train all year to run with you Big Dogs. Big Red goes to sleep at 9:00PM and gets up at 5:00AM, farm boy thing.

LL you have posted my next wife, a natural blonde hispanic beauty LOL.

You guys are making us proud in the Baltimore Washington Corridor

Big Red

Benchseats Rock
02-04-07, 23:49
There is a storm that has been brewing for a few hours already, and it is heading into Nogales. Lock up your women, shutter your doors, and if you want to join the party, just look for the Boys in Blue, wearing Colt's outfits - reportedly replete with Colt Blue Bolt Ons... in short, look for the Dynamic Duo, the Blue Tornado... LL and BB - now rechristened the Beast From the East... if you have problems finding them, look for the trail of clothing last seen on the hottest hookers in town. If you're looking for the hookers for yourself, you're out of luck. But I am sure you can join in the party if you want to party with royalty...

In my best estimation as the semi sober records keeper of expedition yonder I think that the body count is 18 for LL, 16 for the Beast From the East - and it should be noted for the record here that there is no sight or sign of their slowing down - why, just last night LL plows home with a trifecta and to pop from the holy triumvirate of mongering he flipped her over for some doggy and surprised her with some anal.

It took them the better part of the game but they finally got themselves cut off and thrown out - it didn't do much to help any of the Bears fan's also in the bar at the time, but theirs is a sad and different story for someone else to tell in perhaps a different forum.

LoveLOS
02-05-07, 00:33
We left Obsessions and ventured on into Bolerios. Onstage when I walked in was an exotic looking spinner type with LOTS of energy and a very hot body. Cytlali currently sports very long bleach blonde hair, with the expected dark brown roots. She also sports a nice pair of A/B cups and a shaved pussy, which I knew little LL wanted to explore. My best friend returned from his romp with my ATF, and went stateside to recover.

The American guy I had met earlier was with me and we decided to check out La Conga, with the hopes of hooking up with Karla. I was dissapointed to learn Karla is no longer working there. Nothing else was present either of us had interest in, so we returned to Placers, where Shiela was busy doing the lap thing with another customer. I said hola and left. Nothing interesting in any of the regular bars or the VIP club, so we went back to Bolerios. I gave the nod for Cytlali, and after a few drinks, decided to retire to my hotel room with her. She has a pretty damn good attitude, and we did the DATY thing until she had her pleasure. My rewards were ample. Did I mention good attitude? Figure it out from the pics. We showerd and I sent her back to the club and tok a rest before a Ms LL was to arrive.

Cytlali:
Face: 6-8 (depending on how you like the exotic look)
Body: 9+
Attitude: 8
$$ + drinks

3:30am soon came and Abeshit brought Lorania. Followers of LoveLOS posts will recall that in April, Lorania got my nickname "tiny dancer." She was probably 90lbs driping wet, an absolute DATY hound, and the tightest pussy in the western hemisphere. In two dates she had achieved Ms LL status. Only one thing has changed, she is probably about 110lbs now, the filling out has been very very nice, you don't feel like you are going to break her accidentally. I hope the weight gain stops, but for the moment, she is one of the hottest girls in Nogi. The other two things--DATY hound and tight pussy.... fuuuuuuuuck.

The session with her was fucking amazing. Shock and awe. She left my room after one of the best sessions in my life, and I looked at the clock on my phone... 5:55am.

Lorania:
Face: 8
Body: 9+
Attitude: 10
$.5

LoveLOS

PS - I am posting this as LL becomes the wingman tonight to cover the back of BB, perhaps the most rabid Colts fan on the planet. BSR's report of getting cut off at a superbowl party and coming within a hairs breath of getting escorted out are no exaggerations. BB actually had a proposition for a freebie from another female Colts fan--thank god he had only drank about a fifth of tequilla, so he had the good sense to turn that one down...

Benchseats Rock
02-05-07, 03:34
Q. What is pink and flat and smells like Mexican Pussy?

A. LL's tongue.


If you don't come back dead, no one can say it's from lack of trying...

Monger on my brother,

Benchseats Rock

LoveLOS
02-05-07, 15:04
LL you have posted my next wife, a natural blonde hispanic beauty LOL.
Hate to break it to you my big brotha, but its all bleach. Still, you could do much much worse to make this one yours forever, or for an hour. This girl has an almost animal look. Really exotic.

You will have to wait for the report, but the attached pic is a preview of my experiences for the night.

BTW-If you want to make her Cytlaly Red, you are gonna have to get past a quote (excuse the Spanglish, it came out similar, but my alcohol addled brain was not in perfect record mode.)

"Otro hombres, no yo finish. Con tu (pointing at LL) yo finish, Si!" (kiss on lips)... OMFG.

And sorry DC guys, "YO" does not mean the same thing here as on the streets of Balmer...

LoveLOS

VanDriver
02-05-07, 16:46
Hate to break it to you my big brotha, but its all bleach. Still, you could do much much worse to make this one yours forever, or for an hour. This girl has an almost animal look. Really exotic.

You will have to wait for the report, but the attached pic is a preview of my experiences for the night.

BTW-If you want to make her Cytlaly Red, you are gonna have to get past a quote (excuse the Spanglish, it came out similar, but my alcohol addled brain was not in perfect record mode.)

"Otro hombres, no yo finish. Con tu (pointing at LL) yo finish, Si!" (kiss on lips)... OMFG.

And sorry DC guys, "YO" does not mean the same thing here as on the streets of Balmer...

LoveLOS

Hey LL:

Ok, maybe it is just jealously and definately not hate... from the RT to some place called Nogales. You guys really have it going on.

Not sure if you remember but I was invited to a RT before Black Wednesday last year and I sure would like to come to one of the next ones. Meeting the mongers behind the posts would be pretty cool.

Anyway, I'm glad to see you guys evidently had a great time at both events.

Van

Big Red50
02-05-07, 18:21
Hate to break it to you my big brotha, but its all bleach. Still, you could do much much worse to make this one yours forever, or for an hour. This girl has an almost animal look. Really exotic.

You will have to wait for the report, but the attached pic is a preview of my experiences for the night.

BTW-If you want to make her Cytlaly Red, you are gonna have to get past a quote (excuse the Spanglish, it came out similar, but my alcohol addled brain was not in perfect record mode.)

"Otro hombres, no yo finish. Con tu (pointing at LL) yo finish, Si!" (kiss on lips)... OMFG.

And sorry DC guys, "YO" does not mean the same thing here as on the streets of Balmer...

LoveLOSLL

This one Cytlaly fell in love with you she said

Other men(no never comment added by Big Red), No! I(Cytlaly that is) finish with you(pointing at LL) I finish, yes.

Now LL being a gentleman, I use that term loosely, I know you let her finish with you, what a guy.

By the way LL your spanglish is getting much better

Spanglish translation by

Big Red

Larks Tongue
02-05-07, 21:12
Nice report and nice pics.

Thanks for sharing.

I would have liked to DATY that young lady myself.



3:30am soon came and Abeshit brought Lorania. Followers of LoveLOS posts will recall that in April, Lorania got my nickname "tiny dancer." She was probably 90lbs driping wet, an absolute DATY hound, and the tightest pussy in the western hemisphere. In two dates she had achieved Ms LL status. Only one thing has changed, she is probably about 110lbs now, the filling out has been very very nice, you don't feel like you are going to break her accidentally. I hope the weight gain stops, but for the moment, she is one of the hottest girls in Nogi. The other two things--DATY hound and tight pussy.... fuuuuuuuuck.

The session with her was fucking amazing. Shock and awe. She left my room after one of the best sessions in my life, and I looked at the clock on my phone... 5:55am.

Lorania:
Face: 8
Body: 9+
Attitude: 10
$.5

LoveLOS

PS - I am posting this as LL becomes the wingman tonight to cover the back of BB, perhaps the most rabid Colts fan on the planet. BSR's report of getting cut off at a superbowl party and coming within a hairs breath of getting escorted out are no exaggerations. BB actually had a proposition for a freebie from another female Colts fan--thank god he had only drank about a fifth of tequilla, so he had the good sense to turn that one down...

Ed...
02-05-07, 22:12
LOS's wild animal looking chica said......"Otro hombres, no yo finish. Con tu (pointing at LL) yo finish, Si!" (kiss on lips)... OMFG.

I know you'd like to believe you're the first to tame her, but, I believe she says you're 'finished'.
I may be wrong- it could happen I suppose, but It's local custom that such verbage means you can no longer have sex with any other Chica in the land or risk castration by having your nads crushed between a couple chairs and a concrete bed. I know it sounds weird, but now its your reality!

I tried to help you by telling her I returned to the bar only because I had seen her earlier, but I guess running off with "MY" new girl, Brenda, betrayed me. I'll have to try again another time.

OOOh Bren-da.

Ed...

LoveLOS
02-05-07, 23:57
Day 3Day 3

Started the night at Obsessions, and BB got tunnelvision for a very hot girl with a red bikini. He is shit with names, so we call her red. LL wanted to check out Paulina, but Lorania sort of out-flirted her, as usual. :D I have decided Lorania has an M.O. when it comes to butterfly behavior of her guys--She acts pissed off and pouts when she catches you landing on another flower. I am pretty damn sure it is an act, because she always seems to forgive me.. But immagine the act I got when I excused myself to go to a date with Sara.

Said date with Sara did not happen. Her real life boyfriend - father of her baby, wanted her. She told me they had broken up. The net effect of catching her in the fabrication is that her year-long spell over LL's mind is broken; the fantasy was great, but I am now free to obsess over another one.
I was waiting at Bolerios when Abeshit delivered the news Sara was not coming until later. My thoughts turned to Babydoll, but then I saw Brenda onstage. I called her over. Brenda is a fun girl and little LL soon indicated a desire to experience this beauty.

We went back to the Pancho Villa for a hour of study. We got along well and Brenda passed the acid tests for a party girl: Fun attitude, DATY hound, willing to enjoy the sex herself (or act like it)... You get the picture.

Brenda:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 9
$$ + drinks

We went back to Boleriao to hook up with BB. He was not there yet, or so I thought. It seems there was this girl Babydoll Benz that the man can't stop talking about, and can't stop fucking... They were downstairs in Bolerios when Brenda and I got back. Abeshit brought another girl over to me while Brenda was changing. She was hot but, a dead fish. Remember - best actress wins. LL ejected her in favor of the better actress. Brenda stayed with me until BB and BB were finished, and then, in an amusing and telling exchange between the girls, we switched partners there in the bar. Babydoll was a vetran of a previous foursome with BB and I, and Brenda was definately a player with promise. It had to happen, and we made it happen in an after hours party that made the cost more palatable.

LL was with Babydoll and BB was with Brenda; but nobody was dogmatic about that when it came to the occasional suck on a tit, smack on the ass, or just plain ole watching the live porn show occurring in the next bed over. Sucking, fucking, multiple positions, girls having or faking orgasm, and finally two guys who needed not fake. I think BB strained something, he is not usually the three pops a night kind of guy...

Babydoll:
Face: 7
Body: 9
Attitude: 10
$.5

Brenda:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 10
$.5

It was about 5am, LL and BB checked out of Pancho Villa and headed for the comfort of our USA hotel for some serious rest.

LoveLOS

Benchseats Rock
02-06-07, 00:37
I think BB strained something, he is not usually the three pops a night kind of guy...



Now if there ever was one, this is the understatement of the century. You can strain your muscles working out in the gym, you can strain your eyes trying to peek down her shirt from across the room, but when she fucks the living daylights out of you and drains your body of all fluids and then forces you to cum again - to the point that all that is left is blood... well ok, I see your point. I guess BB strained something.... I know I did, and all I was doing was trying to imagine that I was there... I am starting to save up for next year tonight.

LoveLOS
02-06-07, 01:29
I know you'd like to believe you're the first to tame her, but, I believe she says you're 'finished'.
I may be wrong- it could happen I suppose, but It's local custom that such verbage means you can no longer have sex with any other Chica in the land or risk castration by having your nads crushed between a couple chairs and a concrete bed. I know it sounds weird, but now its your reality!
She did take great pains to show me her cum on the outside of the condom... I would not be so foolish as to think I was the first to tame her, but the fun part is to know I surprised the shit out of her. The kisses went from the cheek variety to the lips variety, which is another good sign LL has been claimed.

And still you are absolutely right about the possesiveness of a chica... I guess it is why I love the little shits so much. Guess when I hit Bolerios within an hour from this posting that I will find out where I stand, especially if Babydoll and/or Brenda are there as well as Cytlali... I can hardly wait...

Oh, did I just let it slip I want to fuck the dogshit out of your new fave? Again? Only way to stop that (or join the foursome) is to get your ass off the couch and hit the road my compadre...

I am starting to save up for next year tonight.Me too. 352 days left, are we there yet?
Not sure if you remember but I was invited to a RT before Black Wednesday last year and I sure would like to come to one of the next ones. Meeting the mongers behind the posts would be pretty cool.Van,
Yep I remember, you are inner circle, so I'll be inviting you to next RT.

So many women, so little time...

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-08-07, 12:57
Abeshit captured me at the border, BB was taking a day off... I wanted to hook up with Lorania but she was absent. Expendatures were starting to take their toll on LL's attitude and concerns of lack of funds was a spectre LL did not want to face again. It was also a Thursday night, by the odds, a slow night.

I went bar hopping with Abeshit in search of bargain booty. Nothing I would fuck in Obsessions except Paulina, who again managed to be agressive enough to close the deal. Bolerios had Cytlaly as the only one. Again, great options but not inexpensive. Abe finally relented that he had $100 girls like the rest of the touts were offering. I thought again of Karla. Immagine this, LL took Abe to LaConga, go figure, LL is tour gide for a fucking tout. We established Karla really was gone forever and that did nothing for my attitude.

There were two slummers there, and fucking Abe is getting horny for one of them? ROTFLMAO. One girl, a fattie, had a nice face. When the tought that I could fuck her crossed my mind I knew it was time to go!

Got the cab and Abe had us hold for ten minutes waiting for the promised bargain booty, which, as usual, did not show. We drropped off at Bolerios again but LL marched for Lust, the new TD club that has recently (1 week ago) opened in the place of Divas. Unfortunately, there was nothing there to interest little LL.

BTW-that will change. I can recommend LUST as a viable option in the Nogi scene. I spoke to the manager who is currently eager for business... No Cover, assembling a good array of better looking girls, and slightly lower rates. I negotiated $150 to $180 in the hotel room for an hour. YOu have the knwowledge use it.

My next stop was Placers. I walked in and Ieukio was there. End of story--this is the girl for me tonight. Placers has an on premisis bedroom complete with a bed, heater, and toilet (albiet no running water) for $180. Takeout is also possible, but that is $200.

Ieukio was BB's girl on the first night, and was described by him as a "trooper." That is a good thing, meaning she will work to please. Fortunately, she remembered me with Shiela and so there was some prior emotional connection to having a good time. And we did. She accepted and enjoyed DATY and was a great fuck. She is one of my faves from the whole trip... And out last outing a few days hence was, well, wait for the report.

Ieukio:
Face: 9
Body: 9
Attitude: 9
$180 + drinks

It was about 3am when we finished and the bars were closing. LL was still reeling from the hellatious session with Ieukio. I was walking up the sidewalk and had met with Luis, who is a low pressure tout with good English skills and seems to work well for his clients. I haad met him while he was accompanying another guy with whom I had partied with a few days before. He suggested we go to VIP for the after huours selection there. I counted the money and discovered only $24 left, so we agreed if I saw one @ VIP, I woulc cross back to to the USA for the extra it might take...

Apparently the girl shadowing us understood our conversation... As we were turning to go to VIP she approached me an offered her full services, including her hotel room (which I did not have that night) for $20. I needed a condom, so the $24 was perfect. A walk on the wild side. Ed would be proud. Myra wasn't perfect, about a 6 face and 5 body but $20 full service--why not. Of course, nothing is as it seems. She didn't have a room and was mistakenly assuming she could pay a hotel keeper $5 or $10 for a room. We had walked around about 30 minutes when I noted a decent alley and we almost simultaneously suggested a BBBJ in the alley.

It turns out that Myra was not a pro as I had assumed. She gagged three times in the process of performing a very enthusiastic effort. Everything would have cum out fine except that the Policia happened along at the in-oppurtune moment. Luis was standing watch, and unfortunately they saw him. He waved us off so we were four blocks toward the border when the pigs found who Luis was protecting. I had already passed Myra her $20 for a very nice, if not professional effort, so I had $4...

The pigs were trying to get a bribe to free Luis, but I made it very clear I had only $4, and if they wanted that, they may have it. We all stuck to the only obvious story we were walking around together before I went back to the USA. My addition was that I needed the time so that I would not be guilty of DUI, which was actually true. A thourough search of Luis and myself found no contraband, so the pigs begrudgingly sent all of us on our way. The offer for a genuine completion of the $20 full service option was made and a meeting time and place was set by Myra for two days later. I told her not to wait for me more than 30 minutes because, it seems blatantly obvious to me that I cannot predict where I will be and what I will be getting into when mongering in Mexico...

Myra:
Face: 6
Body: 5
Attitude: 8
$20, BBBJ

The net result of this little walk on the wild side, asside from a near completion of the BBBJ and nice adreneline rush, was that LL discovered Luis is a good guy to have by your side when possibly over your head in Mexico. I am also getting tired of Abe by this time. This adventure set the stage for our next adventure... A trip to Agua Pierta with senior board member and expert on Mexican wild side mongering, our own Ed...

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-08-07, 20:07
I conclude that Cytaly is spinner girl, aged one year. Two reasons. Same larger left tit with same angle as shown on Cytlaly2.jpg and likely the same tatoo on lower left back as shown in Cytlaly3.jpg. Also, same mouth, nose, and eye shapes.

I give my permission to marry her. I've got a recent ebony babe here in DC... lolThank you, Bdub my good friend. Your deductive reasoning is not only astute, but I had not noticed the tat in your photo. A lovely comedy tradgedy tat, one on each side makes for the positive ID. That tattoo, by the way, can be enjoyed best while hammering away in the doggie position. :D


Bdubs certainly did and he then understood that indeed the Holy Grail may be in Nogales. However, more research was needed. Spinner Girl also had no problems posing for pictures for BDubs' research. She would have great potential if you could get her to a hotel for a longer time, and in a bed.I do believe you were onto something last year. My research this year agrees with your preliminary findings, and your estimation for her potential are confirmed correct. I too believe a LOT more research is needed here. Thank you for your permission to take over this case study, even if the methodology you suggest may be a bit extreme at this time... :eek:

LoveLOS

BTW-If you need any help with that study you are conducting in DC, LMK. I am told by associates that it too is promising...

Photos posted below and used as referance from BDubs' classic "Da Kinky Code" post.

Browsebot
02-08-07, 22:46
Are all these clubs you guys are talking about the Nogales on the US Side? Or are you crossing the border and going to Nogales on the Mexican side? Reason I ask is because this is in the Nogales, Arizona forum and not Mexico. I plan to be in the area soon and want to know what's up since I was last there many years ago.

$150 - $180 for FS in a hotel room in Nogi? Why is it so expensive there, when in Tijuana you can get a girl that is a 9 or 10 for an hour for $100 - $120 + room fee?

LoveLOS
02-09-07, 02:15
Are all these clubs you guys are talking about the Nogales on the US Side? Should I start with the ole abbreviation: RTFF? Bench, take over for me here...

I post here because USAsexguide is my fucking home board and they don't have an international section. InternationalSexguide is a different forum and my reports will be cleaned up and reposted there later.


$150 - $180 for FS in a hotel room in Nogi? Why is it so expensive there, when in Tijuana you can get a girl that is a 9 or 10 for an hour for $100 - $120 + room fee?Solution: Go to TJ.

Or go to Bangkok where $50 gets you all night with a 9 or 10.

Or go to Phoenix where $350 gets you an hour with the same grade.

Or try to get the same service in Nogi and fail miserably as I noted a half dozen other mongers do throughout the week. There are some 5-7 range girls avialble for $100 in hotel rooms, but the selection decreases dramatically... Cheap Charlies ususally get rushed service. It's your choice. I choose quality and quantity, I paid just under the standard price or got longer time for the same price.

It's their city, their pricing, their turf. Deal with it or play elsewhere.
Of course, opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and I just showed you mine.

While I am bitching and raising hell, I would like to address another issue:
LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS! The girls do NOT need to know about the glowing reports you read here. They do NOT need to know their pics are posted here... Doing so will cause them to be reticent about posing for your/my camera in the future.

Example: Abe has been told by at least four guys that a guy named Sexhobbyist hates him with a passion. Keep your fucking tounges in some chiquitas snatch, not wagging around telling all about how we know this shit.

[LL steps off of soap box]

Sorry if I am snippy, I am 2500 miles from where I want to be tonight. Several more reports coming over the next few days...
LoveLOS

Sexhobbyist
02-09-07, 11:30
$150 - $180 for FS in a hotel room in Nogi? Why is it so expensive there, when in Tijuana you can get a girl that is a 9 or 10 for an hour for $100 - $120 + room fee?

False economics.
From Tucson/Phoenix TJ costs about $150 to fly round trip to San Diego. Add transportation to the border/rental car (approx $25). Two pops in TJ cost $200 (taking the lowest price) + $50 (approx) room fee. Total cost for TJ = approximately $425 (about $212 per pop assuming you can do it twice in a couple of hours.) If you stay overnight, add in the price of a hotel in the area and the cost goes up.

From Tucson to Nogales costs about a 6 gallons of gasoline, roundtrip ($13.50) plus parking ($4) plus the price of girls as mentioned above (again, taking the lowest of the price range). You don't have to add the cost of a hotel since the clubs have their own "facilities." Assuming you can get two pops, then the cost per pop is approximately $160 each.

Don't even get me started on Thailand! Everyone says that the cost is so cheap there, but they fail to factor in the $2,000 plane ticket and the hotel for a week or so. By the time you add it all up, Thailand is about the same price (per pop) as Nogie and TJ.
Sexhobbyist

Ed...
02-09-07, 14:25
Easy guys, Browsebot didn't mean to impugn. It's my guess he's done a bit of reading and has not traveled to either point. The impression one would get by text alone would warrant the simple question, that's all.

Along those lines, I was meaning to post to LOS regarding TJ. I could call ya buddy, but this give me a great chance to make my comments public.

I have been railing against Nogi prices forever, but the visitor LOS had shown me the obvious. I suggested a side trip to TJ next year, and wailed about the incredible virtues of my beloved Canada, all on the way to Agua Prieta for 'the change of pace.' Pussy is where YOU are, or it might as well be... well, not pussy. (this is why the hand gets soo much lovin I guess)

LOS has fun in Nogi cause he has the great attitude, loves the club scene, and can afford it. The real gem here is the girls' attitudes! TJ HAS NOTHING LIKE NOGI'S CLUB SCENE! Sure you can bar hop, yes you can chat with the girls, but outside of Adelita's there isn't any of the party,-let me sniff your panties-ok lets go while gettin hammered stuff. Many TJ 9s and 10's are jaded dead fishes and many times there is no reliable mechanism to tell who's what. I don't want to get into comparisons here, and I am heading to TJ soon so its not like its not freakin great, but...

Nogi has a scene unique to Border towns and yes, Ive been to every f-in one. LOS loves it, and LOS does it right, WTF.

Sexhobbyist
02-09-07, 19:52
Pussy is where YOU are, or it might as well be... well, not pussy. (this is why the hand gets soo much lovin I guess)

TJ HAS NOTHING LIKE NOGI'S CLUB SCENE! Many TJ 9s and 10's are jaded dead fishes and many times there is no reliable mechanism to tell who's what. Nogi has a scene unique to Border towns and yes, Ive been to every f-in one. LOS loves it, and LOS does it right, WTF.

I heartily endorse Ed's comments above. There is nothing in northern Mexico like Nogales' clubs. And, first and foremost, it's the pussy where I am (or nearly am). It's the "pussy right down the road."

Finally, I think its the thought of Nogie's nearby competition that is making Tucson a better mongering town. (It's been my experience, that is.)
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
02-09-07, 23:02
The real gem here is the girls' attitudes! TJ HAS NOTHING LIKE NOGI'S CLUB SCENE!That's it in a nutshell (perhaps a Walnut). Ed has travelled the border towns more than I, and nowhere since the Land of Smiles have I found so many fine quality ladies that are wlling to spend quality time with a great attitude than in Nogi, which is why when I have to travel to this area, I make Nogi pussy the "pussy where I am."

SH is absolutely correct on the false economics math, which is why many of the wonderful destinations such as DR, BKK, CR and TJ are best done on a longer holiday--a week or more. Hell, since Nogi is not in my back door, the longer I am there the better it is for me economicaly.

I mentioned earlier somewhere that you guys are so polite here. Must be because you are getting enough tang...

Reports cumming,
LL

LoveLOS
02-10-07, 00:52
Some readers on this fucking sex board may object to the use of profanity, and I know WORK is such a four letter word--hope you can get past it. Anyway, LL abd BB had to work each day, which really cut into the mongering time and time with some of the guys, such as SH, that we wanted to party with. Still Ed met with BB and I after w0rk in Tucson and we embarked on a new adventure in the the unpaved mongering trails of the Northwest border towns; in this case, Agua Prieta, which is across from Douglas, AZ.

Excellent background posts for this trip are found on the international board:
by Magurso (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=401369&postcount=96)
by Ed... (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=408203&postcount=100)

AP is a two hour drive from Tucson, and a two hour drive back for less astute readers. A hotel in Douglas AZ is available and possibly a good option for those whose circumstances would allow not getting home until mid-day the next day. Agua Pierta is a Friday / Saturday option only, and starting late is no penalty.

The long drive allowed plenty of time for LL and Ed to get reaquainted and catch up on the two years since we had partied together--and time for BB and Ed to become friends. We reached the border at about 10:30pm, and crossed over. The red light district of AP is an unpaved, one block area about a mile from the border. Get a taxi and ask for Flamingo, 5&10, Parisosa or Scandalos. Scandalos is a typical Nogi-style strip club with some decent looking dancers, a bedroom and some privados. There are three other pickup bars and one Mexican watering hole (no girls hanging about) on the block. The pickup bars sport attached living quarters which the girls apparently rent out for their private living and fucking quarters.

WHen we arrived at shortly before 11pm, there were three dancers in Scandalos, so we sat and enjoyed for a while. One excellent thing about this club is the better-than-average porn playing on three or four TV monitors hung around the walls. If you get bored watching the dancer wiggle against the pole, perhaps the two girls raping the guy in the snow might keep your interest for a while. After a few shots, the staff doubled. Pricing was essentially the same as a Nogi TD club. I found one girl that was to my liking, so I took her for a test-drive in the Privados. I am thinking Ed and BB did the same. Can't remember her name, but she was hot and lactating, so I took her for three dances to gain some extra nourishment. I considered taking my little milkmaid for sexo, but it occurred to me I had travelled this far out of the way for something other than a strip-club fuck at Nogi prices.

Milkmaid:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 8
$60 (3 dances in Privado)

BB got tunnelvision for one of the dancers, so Ed and I took our leave to go hunting. We walked into Parisosa and the chimney was backed up, so the place was filled with smoke. We crossed to the 5&10 Patio, where we were met on the sidewalk by a decent looking MILF who spoke enough English to invited us in. Once inside, I glimpsed a tall dark haired beauty slip into the ladies room. I told Ed that is the one for me. Only trouble was, we were the only gringos in the place, and she came back out, went back to the bar and turned her attention to a local. Ed told me that that type of behavior was pretty typical... Everybody knows the gringos are there to fuck and have the money. The girls are there to get fucked and collect the money. Why they are reticent to move is probably in the hispanic psyche, or the presence of local regulars who might not approve of gringo intrusion. More study needed, we moved on to Flamingos.

Flamingos had a similar setup as 5&10, except a band was playing. I noted a really pretty girl sitting with another girl at table near ours as I made my way to the banos... Ed apparently made eye contact with another good looking girl at a nearby table with both girls and men. Kinda to our surprise, she got up and came over to him and he bought her a drink. This emboldened the girls I had seen and both girls came over to me. We bought a drink for all. We worked our way thru the lack of common language. The less attractive of my two girls was friendly and seemed to want to have fum. The hot girl was a dead fish. I mentioned to Ed that the best actress always wins, this one acted friendly and had a pretty face. I decided that, although she was not my normal quality range, she would be able to get the poison out so I could go back to 5&10 and bag the hottie. She asked me three times "Que paso" = "What's happenning" in my understanding... I finally asked Ed to help me get past that impasse... My learned advisor answered: ¿Cuánto para el sexo? Duh Huh. What a great answer, worked like a charm.

We paid the drinks, gave the $60 to the bartender, assured them we already had a condom to save another $3, and headed off to her room which was attached to the bar on one side through a locked steel gate. Ed had magically made the same deal and was just ahead of us. It was cold, but she fired up an open flame propane heater and we got busy. Did not feel good about DATY on this one, so we just did the CBJ then fucked. As is my custom with less than wonderful eye candy, I usually get to doggie ASAP and pound it out from there.

Actress:
Face: 7
Body: 5
Attitude: 7
$60 full service + drinks

Ed and I met back in the bar, now ready to start partying in earnest, even though I was about 7 drinks into the party already... Ed was driving, so he kept it real on the alcohol. Time to go fetch BB. Back to Scandalos to regroup and compare notes. We were all good but BB had paid three times what Ed and I had for our first pop. I think he wanted to average the numbers a bit.

For the sake of showing BB the town, We went back to Parisano. Smoke was gone now, but the three girls in the place were not of interest. We moved back into 5&10 and took our previous table by the jukebox. Now that I had scoped out the place, I felt much more at ease, and perhaps it showed. I noted that my tall dark-haired beauty now had a rather pretty girlfriend with her at the bar. We got our drinks and I saluted the pretty pair, and got a similar response but they did not come over. We had a few more rounds and finally a local brought MILF over to the jukebox and the pretty girlfriend came over too check out what they were selecting. The guy motioned to me that I should ask pretty girlfriend to dance. Not usually my thing, but with about 12 tequlla to kill any inhibitions and a strong motivation to fuck this one, I took the que. We danced and I took her back to the bar where tall dark-haired beauty was sitting for a drink.

Finally close enought to see tall dark-haired beauty up close, I decided her face was not great although her body was screamer, she was probably about 35. I was drinking with the best looking one in the bar--ka-chink. A few drinks with Loraine (pretty girlfriend) and I decided it would be foolish not to go with this one. As we were getting ready to head for her room, I noted BB was getting ready to take MILF out of the bar also. Good job, mi amigo.

Loraine had managed to heat the room before we got there, and so things were a bit nicer. Her relative affluence can probably be directly attributed to her looks and attitude. We had a great romp that included some DATY, mish, cowgirl, and doggie finish. She acted, and claimed, to have finished well also, which is entirely possible with me having 14 shots of tequilla and 2 shots of pussy in four hours.

Loraine
Face: 8
Body: 8
Attitude: 9
$60 full service + drinks

BB reported good things also, the highlight of MILF was apparently the best head of his trip...

MILF:
Face: 8
Body: 6
Attitude: 9
$60 full service + drinks

When we re-grouped, we found a taxi and went back stateside at about 3am.


I think I saw the oddest thing last night. Two guys looking like LL and BB, complete with shot glasses glued to their lips and Chicas glued to their hips!

The strange thing was, these chaps were 60 miles to the east in the Abe-less no pressure town of AP. I suppose its not the first time one could get pretty far off the track with beer googles on.

Rumour has it there was even a few empty seats on the bus!The drive back to Tucson was more excellent camraderie. Poor BSR got that infamous, 3am-drunk-off-my-ass-from-partying-hard phone call and verbal trip report... The drive from Tucson to Nogi, arriving at 6am was hell...

AP was just what the boyz needed.

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-10-07, 04:43
Tonight is the night. I have tunnelvision for Ms Lorania LoveLOS. The date has been set for two days. I can hardly wait. I can't think straight, this girl has her hooks in deep. I tried playing Lips of an Angel agian to see if Sara would be the vision in my mind as she has for the months up to this trip. No, it is Lorania. OMFG, this is going to be wonderful. It occurs tho me that this is the second song that I have dedicated to this lady:
When I think of Lorania my head turns all around
As gentle as a butterfly she moves without a sound
I call her on the telephone, she says be there by eight
Tonight's the night she's moving in and I can hardly wait

The way she moves, ooh-ooh
I gotta say
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever

Her eyes become of Paradise, she softly speaks my name
She brightens every lonely night, no one's quite the same
She calls me on the telephone, she says be there by eight
Tonight's the night she's moving in, it's time to celebrate

The way she moves, ooh-ooh
I gotta say
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars foreverSometimes, like day 4 and 5, I simply go without a plan. Today, I have a plan. I will meet Lorania in the bar and confirm our date, and perhaps take Paulina in the room before trolling the other bars until 3am when heaven meets LL again. Took a late start for a Saturday night, about 11pm, because I was posting a report so you lowlife perverts that lurk here can get your rocks off reading about some motherfucker that calls his dick "Little LL" and his favorite hookers are given the title of "Ms LL..."

Astute readers may realize that my dedication to you guys had cost me dearly... (See, you aren't an astute reader--or, more likely, I am a fucked up writer). Anyway, I had missed my $20 full service date with Myra. Shit. Oh well. I crossed over the border (yes, newbies, althought this is posted on USAsexguide, these events theoretically happened in Mexico...) When I arrived, there was Luis. What a coincidence! Uh, no, the guy is the only other person that knew about that date... Gotta hand it to him, pretty sharp kid.

As noted earlier, spending the evening with Abeshit two nights before was really tiring. Add to that Sexhobbyist's passionate and well-reasoned argument against the guy. Then BB copped an attitude toward Abe also. The final blow to him when the motherfucker failed to produce Sara all fucking week long. Never let it be said that Little LL does the thinking here... :eek:

I decided to see how things went without his asistance. We avoided Bolerios, even made sure the door guy did not see me and tell his guy-in-a-tie amigo, who would surely come looking for me. Checked in again to the Pancho Villa Hotel and got set up for later. A trip over to the store to pick up some Agavero, which we delivered back to the hotel. Finally ready to play, We Went straight back to Obsessions to play some pool. As expected, Ms L.LL. was there, pool cue in hand. Fucking hot as ever. We played a couple of games, and naturally Paulina hung around, being cute as hell but not agressive at all.

We were working out the details for our date, and poor Luis delivered the sickening news... Lorania is on the rag. arrrrrggggghhhhhhhh. Fuck me over. I thought about doing the redline anyway, but with both of us being complete DATYhounds, there was no fucking way. I thought I recovered well. She went to dance and I immediately negotiated for Paulina to come to my room after work. I said my goodbyes to the manager, my waiter, the bouncer who lets me in without cover. My coat was on...and the bar runs one of the two-dances-for-one things where they herd all the girls up onto stage and the guys pick them up for privados dances.

I took off my coat. There was the screaming hottie (red) BB had fucked several nights previously. I hesitated because she recieved only moderate attitude reviews from my wingman. Then she was gone. Not much else, let me look. Paulina was there, but why bother? She had been on my lap most of the week and I would bed her tonight. Lorania was not up there - they must exempt bleeders. I scanned the crowd, Paulina got picked, cool. Some other pretty brunette I had noticed in passing while playing pool was taken. Then I saw a blonde girl on the left end with big fake-looking tits and a sweet ass. Before any more get snatched, I grabbed her.

LL has a number one body type preference: A spinner with A thru C tits, tiny fucking little ass, thin, about 90 pounds, but not anorexic, and tight little pussy, simply due to anatomical limitations on size of the pelvis. BB on the other hand, likes them best up to about 120 lbs, with a shapely hourglass figure, which reqires B thru D tits, and a nice bubble butt. Funny thing is, we both have no fucking problem going to the other amigos' favorite. Since we look out for each other, the other guy's fave is on our watch list.

I have just described Muñeca. Her body is amazing, a perfect BB girl. I may have given her a 10 if the tits were natural. We went back to the Privado, and I found she had a wonderful attitude for a girl I had not even sat down with or noticed until a few moments ago. She made sure I enjoyed fondleing all of her body and realy enjoyed the job I was doing on her nips with my tounge. I had, as standard procedure, unzipped the fly. By the second song, she managed to have her hands arond little LL, when she wrapped her lips around hime and breathe blew Little LL through my underwear. She looked up with the universal sign for BJ, but Thinking with my big head, I said, "No, sexo!" and pointed up the hall to the bedroom.

The sex was really nice. She seems to enjoy ay attention to her tits, which makes sense, she paid well for them. Of course, she also liked that DATY session, she seemed pretty horny when she demanded to be fucked. We started Mish until I was exhausted, then she climbed on and, OMFG, that dance. I needed to see that ass some more, so we finished doggy. Wow. Great fuck--one of those pure lust fucks. Maybe this was a grudge fuck because I knew I wanted Sara and Lorania and was to be denied the rest of this trip. I don't know why, but it was intense, especially for a woman I had seen only 2 minutes before we were beginning the sexual encounter. I asked her name afterwards. My spanish sucks, but she kept wigggling and pointing to her wrist, and saying something unitelligible that started with an M, had the nya sound in the middle and ended in an a. Thank you Bablefish for giving the name of a possible future Ms LL (or Ms BB--I know he'll like her) if she hangs until next year...

Muñeca:
Face: 9
Body: 9 (deduction for fake tits)
Attitude: 9
$200 + $10 privados

I came out of the room and was met shortly by Luis. He warned me I had better talk to Lorania--"I think she hates you now!" Oh fuck. I looked across the bar and saw a woman scorned. --Hell hath no fury... Oh, Shit.

I was immediately in flashback mode:
Four years ago....
Bangkok...
Thailand...
Day 5 of my trip (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=126457#post126457):
I awoke with the girl of my dreams, we made love, I extended my stay two more days just to be with her... And by doing shit just like this, I fucked up so badly that she walked out on me a day later (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=126561#post126561)...

When will I fucking learn? I am so married, again...







...TO BE CONTINUED...

LoveLOS

Goddamit, as I write this, my faves list on my computer just started playing "Lips of an Angel" -- Lorania's face appears in my mind again. What have I done?

PWhipped
02-10-07, 09:57
I cannot believe what I am reading, LL is in LOVE?? You better come on back to Atl and see MiMi just for a fuck and go to get yourself straight(LOL) Hey, I am planning a trip to DC the 15th of Mar for a M & G, are you to be there??

BTW, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put Sara in your suitcase and bring her to me(grin) I think she will fit in there and maybe you can get her thru the security check(LOL).

Wet Dreams, PW




Tonight is the night. I have tunnelvision for Ms Lorania LoveLOS. The date has been set for two days. I can hardly wait. I can't think straight, this girl has her hooks in deep. I tried playing Lips of an Angel agian to see if Sara would be the vision in my mind as she has for the months up to this trip. No, it is Lorania. OMFG, this is going to be wonderful. It occurs tho me that this is the second song that I have dedicated to this lady:
When I think of Lorania my head turns all around
As gentle as a butterfly she moves without a sound
I call her on the telephone, she says be there by eight
Tonight's the night she's moving in and I can hardly wait

The way she moves, ooh-ooh
I gotta say
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever

Her eyes become of Paradise, she softly speaks my name
She brightens every lonely night, no one's quite the same
She calls me on the telephone, she says be there by eight
Tonight's the night she's moving in, it's time to celebrate

The way she moves, ooh-ooh
I gotta say
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars forever
Lorania let's live together
Brighter than the stars foreverSometimes, like day 4 and 5, I simply go without a plan. Today, I have a plan. I will meet Lorania in the bar and confirm our date, and perhaps take Paulina in the room before trolling the other bars until 3am when heaven meets LL again. Took a late start for a Saturday night, about 11pm, because I was posting a report so you lowlife perverts that lurk here can get your rocks off reading about some motherfucker that calls his dick "Little LL" and his favorite hookers are given the title of "Ms LL..."

Astute readers may realize that my dedication to you guys had cost me dearly... (See, you aren't an astute reader--or, more likely, I am a fucked up writer). Anyway, I had missed my $20 full service date with Myra. Shit. Oh well. I crossed over the border (yes, newbies, althought this is posted on USAsexguide, these events theoretically happened in Mexico...) When I arrived, there was Luis. What a coincidence! Uh, no, the guy is the only other person that knew about that date... Gotta hand it to him, pretty sharp kid.

As noted earlier, spending the evening with Abeshit two nights before was really tiring. Add to that Sexhobbyist's passionate and well-reasoned argument against the guy. Then BB copped an attitude toward Abe also. The final blow to him when the motherfucker failed to produce Sara all fucking week long. Never let it be said that Little LL does the thinking here... :eek:

I decided to see how things went without his asistance. We avoided Bolerios, even made sure the door guy did not see me and tell his guy-in-a-tie amigo, who would surely come looking for me. Checked in again to the Pancho Villa Hotel and got set up for later. A trip over to the store to pick up some Agavero, which we delivered back to the hotel. Finally ready to play, We Went straight back to Obsessions to play some pool. As expected, Ms L.LL. was there, pool cue in hand. Fucking hot as ever. We played a couple of games, and naturally Paulina hung around, being cute as hell but not agressive at all.

We were working out the details for our date, and poor Luis delivered the sickening news... Lorania is on the rag. arrrrrggggghhhhhhhh. Fuck me over. I thought about doing the redline anyway, but with both of us being complete DATYhounds, there was no fucking way. I thought I recovered well. She went to dance and I immediately negotiated for Paulina to come to my room after work. I said my goodbyes to the manager, my waiter, the bouncer who lets me in without cover. My coat was on...and the bar runs one of the two-dances-for-one things where they herd all the girls up onto stage and the guys pick them up for privados dances.

I took off my coat. There was the screaming hottie (red) BB had fucked several nights previously. I hesitated because she recieved only moderate attitude reviews from my wingman. Then she was gone. Not much else, let me look. Paulina was there, but why bother? She had been on my lap most of the week and I would bed her tonight. Lorania was not up there - they must exempt bleeders. I scanned the crowd, Paulina got picked, cool. Some other pretty brunette I had noticed in passing while playing pool was taken. Then I saw a blonde girl on the left end with big fake-looking tits and a sweet ass. Before any more get snatched, I grabbed her.

LL has a number one body type preference: A spinner with A thru C tits, tiny fucking little ass, thin, about 90 pounds, but not anorexic, and tight little pussy, simply due to anatomical limitations on size of the pelvis. BB on the other hand, likes them best up to about 120 lbs, with a shapely hourglass figure, which reqires B thru D tits, and a nice bubble butt. Funny thing is, we both have no fucking problem going to the other amigos' favorite. Since we look out for each other, the other guy's fave is on our watch list.

I have just described Muñeca. Her body is amazing, a perfect BB girl. I may have given her a 10 if the tits were natural. We went back to the Privado, and I found she had a wonderful attitude for a girl I had not even sat down with or noticed until a few moments ago. She made sure I enjoyed fondleing all of her body and realy enjoyed the job I was doing on her nips with my tounge. I had, as standard procedure, unzipped the fly. By the second song, she managed to have her hands arond little LL, when she wrapped her lips around hime and breathe blew Little LL through my underwear. She looked up with the universal sign for BJ, but Thinking with my big head, I said, "No, sexo!" and pointed up the hall to the bedroom.

The sex was really nice. She seems to enjoy ay attention to her tits, which makes sense, she paid well for them. Of course, she also liked that DATY session, she seemed pretty horny when she demanded to be fucked. We started Mish until I was exhausted, then she climbed on and, OMFG, that dance. I needed to see that ass some more, so we finished doggy. Wow. Great fuck--one of those pure lust fucks. Maybe this was a grudge fuck because I knew I wanted Sara and Lorania and was to be denied the rest of this trip. I don't know why, but it was intense, especially for a woman I had seen only 2 minutes before we were beginning the sexual encounter. I asked her name afterwards. My spanish sucks, but she kept wigggling and pointing to her wrist, and saying something unitelligible that started with an M, had the nya sound in the middle and ended in an a. Thank you Bablefish for giving the name of a possible future Ms LL (or Ms BB--I know he'll like her) if she hangs until next year...

Muñeca:
Face: 9
Body: 9 (deduction for fake tits)
Attitude: 9
$200 + $10 privados

I came out of the room and was met shortly by Luis. He warned me I had better talk to Lorania--"I think she hates you now!" Oh fuck. I looked across the bar and saw a woman scorned. --Hell hath no fury... Oh, Shit.

I was immediately in flashback mode:
Four years ago....
Bangkok...
Thailand...
Day 5 of my trip (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=126457#post126457):
I awoke with the girl of my dreams, we made love, I extended my stay two more days just to be with her... And by doing shit just like this, I fucked up so badly that she walked out on me a day later (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=126561#post126561)...

When will I fucking learn? I am so married, again...







...TO BE CONTINUED...

LoveLOS

Goddamit, as I write this, my faves list on my computer just started playing "Lips of an Angel" -- Lorania's face appears in my mind again. What have I done?

Monger Forever
02-10-07, 11:14
If you are crossing into mexico and paying $200 us you are nuts man you can screw nuns for less in mexico man !!! I hope you are getting virgins or something but from the looks of the ho's everyones had a turn man !

And if you are paying $200 and worrying what some other skank think dude you are nuts also who cares what these ho's want they just want money and thats all!!

this is my 2 cents worth


later
bubba

PWhipped
02-10-07, 11:24
He is just DRUNK again! LOL.

Wet dreams, PW



If you are crossing into mexico and paying $200 us you are nuts man you can screw nuns for less in mexico man !!! I hope you are getting virgins or something but from the looks of the ho's everyones had a turn man !

And if you are paying $200 and worrying what some other skank think dude you are nuts also who cares what these ho's want they just want money and thats all!!

this is my 2 cents worth


later
bubba

Benchseats Rock
02-10-07, 11:26
If you are crossing into mexico and paying $200 us you are nuts man you can screw nuns for less in mexico man !!! I hope you are getting virgins or something but from the looks of the ho's everyones had a turn man !

And if you are paying $200 and worrying what some other skank think dude you are nuts also who cares what these ho's want they just want money and thats all!!

this is my 2 cents worth


later
bubba


Maybe you missed the part about wall to wall $60 fs - and the part about $20 fs - and the part about saving up all year in order to do what can't be normally done - and not for nothing, this is day 6 of 8 - something like a 22 girl body count and more tequila and stamina than any other member has yet to show for a weeks worth of hobbying - at least on the USA forums - oh, and don't forget that we had a RT the night before. In 9 days of straight mongering there is nothing wrong with mixing in the higher end of the P4P scale - it makes for a well balanced diet.

You're right about one thing... it's insane.


BSR

Sexhobbyist
02-10-07, 15:40
...then it's money well spent. Number one rule of the mongering customer: Hey! It's my money and I'll spend it the way I want.

As stated before, there's always a price and quality range in Nogie. The object is to get the best quality for the best price. Sometimes, when only the best will do, you pay the price. That's why they make Mercedes-Benz autos and primo puntas.

Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
02-10-07, 16:32
If you are crossing into mexico and paying $200 us you are nuts man you can screw nuns for less in mexico man !!!Duh Huh. Guess you haven't read enough of my reports to know that I fucking know the score? Yes I know there is cheap pussy in Mexico, but I am fucking with MY DICK, not yours.

Bubbles, I respect you as a senior memeber, so I won't get as shitty as I did with the newbie one page back when he made the same comment without reading the forum enought to know this is an old old issue in Nogales. I wish we can now say we have dispensed with the fucking Nogales price issue, but alas I guess it will keep rearing its ugly head... Ed, SH and I have bitched about it for like four years and still somebody reads a truthful post and gets sticker shock. Oh well, guess we'll keep the good ones and let the CC's have the dregs.
when only the best will do, you pay the price. That's why they make Mercedes-Benz autos and primo puntas.Sexhobbyist, Ed, BSR etc have got their heads screwed on right and know the score. I am a picky bastard. A woman like that, with an attitude like that, would cost me $300-$350 in the states to take out of a Strip Club or dial an escort.

I could probably have had that one for $100 to $150, but I would have had to wait until she was off work--and I had already booked a date. You my friend would have fucked one, I fucked two. To each his own.

Peace.
LL


He is just DRUNK again! LOLMy good friend, I represent that remark! Talked to BB about your excursion to DC-PM me more details so we can throw together an RT in your honor! Sara in a box! Wouldn't we all love that one!!! Reminds me of a Song/video I just heard on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdaSv4a-ia4)...

PS to SH -- Smile was definately on the face... :D

LoveLOS

Loop Vet
02-10-07, 17:18
damn LL, that Muneca is mighty fine. ridiculous ass.

Sexhobbyist
02-10-07, 17:26
damn LL, that Muneca is mighty fine. ridiculous ass.

I agree. I've gotta find that Muneca and make her mine. Her and Sheila. Together. With me. At any price.
Sexhobbyist

Ed...
02-10-07, 21:09
Hey SH,
About Sheila, is this MY Sheila from OBS? I believe she's stateside now.

I suppose sex with Nuns is worth what Bubba pays, lol. Then again, they are adamantly opposed to condoms...

There are plenty of 20-30 dollars dates in Nogi as LOS found, but its the ol' McDonald's burger vs Steak and Crab stuff, both have the proper time and place.

LOS, Dang-You didn't fill me in on the last one! Makes me very interested to SEE what happened when I didn't show Monday night. I'm am sure I really messed up on that!.

She points to her watch? Says Mañana? Poor girl wanted to be fucked till the morning!

That brings me to another thought related to our conversation Saturday.
Not only do you need to have the 'tude and the cash, but successful mongers also have to have game as well. For the girl, gettin paid is the main objective for sure, but feeling comfortable with the guy and gettin her bell rung proper is just like whipped cream on tits. SH knows! And you LOS, you're a freakin beast and they love it. You also hit it square when you commented on taking the hint in AP and dancing first. Those girls apparently like to feel they've been courted a bit first. Don't we all lol.

Ed...

Scott17
02-10-07, 22:57
LOS, that one is HOT. You do your thing and let all the CCs get what they pay for! Don't really know why they think us lowlife perverts that lurk here want their 2 cents worth anyway.

I need to get an excuse for my swmbo that will get me out of the house for a couple of days.

Scott

Opebo
02-11-07, 12:12
Don't even get me started on Thailand! Everyone says that the cost is so cheap there, but they fail to factor in the $2,000 plane ticket and the hotel for a week or so. By the time you add it all up, Thailand is about the same price (per pop) as Nogie and TJ.
Sexhobbyist

Actually the tickets tend to run a bit less than $2,000. Say $1,200 is more like it. A hotel in Pattaya is typically $10-20 per night, so not a big factor. And the girls only cost about $20 for an hour or two of generally good service with a reasonably attractive 20-something. Ultimately of course Americans' short vacations do make such long distance escapes problematic, more because of the exhausting flights than the cost.

Sexhobbyist
02-11-07, 13:03
Actually the tickets tend to run a bit less than $2,000. Say $1,200 is more like it. A hotel in Pattaya is typically $10-20 per night, so not a big factor. And the girls only cost about $20 for an hour or two of generally good service with a reasonably attractive 20-something. Ultimately of course Americans' short vacations do make such long distance escapes problematic, more because of the exhausting flights than the cost.

Actually, it's because of those exhausting flights that my ticket costs $2,000. I need to travel business class (at a minimum) in order to be comfortable and have enough room to relax. My hotel needs to be more than just a hole-in-the-wall so I tend to splurge and get a nice American hotel which costs a few dollars more. After all, it's a vacation. Spend it if you've got it.
Sexhobbyist

Sexhobbyist
02-11-07, 13:05
Hey SH,
About Sheila, is this MY Sheila from OBS? I believe she's stateside now.
Ed...

Yes, this is OUR Sheila from OBS. Any news on her would be appreciated. You can PM me.
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
02-11-07, 20:08
Yes, this is OUR Sheila from OBS.BB and I have observed that Shiela has the skills needed to satisfy the needs of several men, even those with the sex-drive you guys have. You two have trained her well.

I think I mentioned that an upcumming report features a foresome with Shiela and Ieukio? Pennypinchers will have to save their 2¢ for a while to live that fantasy, but it was some of the best money spent...


Not only do you need to have the 'tude and the cash, but successful mongers also have to have game as well. For the girl, gettin paid is the main objective for sure, but feeling comfortable with the guy and gettin her bell rung proper is just like whipped cream on tits. SH knows! And you LOS, you're a freakin beast and they love it. You also hit it square when you commented on taking the hint in AP and dancing first. Those girls apparently like to feel they've been courted a bit first. Don't we all lol.Ed's comment on romancing them a bit struck a nerve. Wh0res yes, but these girls are also women and so they will respond to kindness, respect, genuine admiration, and good sex. This is probably the key to Nogales as a preferred sex destination (for me). The girls are not quite as jaded, and probably not a "busy" as a place like TJ. So they are more open to giving you the chance to become a special friend-if you are so inclined.

Some of our girls are true partiers, you know, "Girls, they just wanna have fun," type of thing. Find what they like to drink and have it in the room. Dance with them onstage at the TD. Play pool with them. Flirt like hell. Smile a lot, make eye contact and use that to convey you want to have fun. Tease them like a stripper at a US strip club teases you. My Spanish sucks, but you can fucking get your intentions across to most of them and have fun doing it.

Ed, we also talked about the "self preservation" technique the girls in TJ seem to use. Even after a great session, a girl will ignore you back in the bar until you acknowledge her. I believe, your conclusion is correct. It is self preservation, if you choose another, there is no loss of face for the first girl. In Nogi, they are more open about coming out an "claiming" a preferred fuck buddy as soon as he walks into the bar. This is probably what gets me into trouble, because if (no, WHEN) I butterfly in the bar, their open claim may be seen as rejection rather than my attention deficet issues...

Thailand takes that phenomenon to the extreme by the unwritten "butterfly" rule--If you take a second girl in the same bar, you will get a reaction like I got from Lorania. She took me by surprise because that is the strongest reaction I have gotten to my butterflying ways in Nogi.

On another topic, I have been considering the comments of the pennypinchers lurking here... The guys worried about spending an extra $50, or the racist that seems to think that a hispanic woman is somehow worth less because she is not an American citizen. (BTW, he will convey that feeling and get the service he is due.) Crossing the border allows for more lax prostitution enforcement, it is not a reason to devalue a woman because of her situation. Yes, I said racist. I have been mulling over the comments about the price of pussy in Nogi, and my conclusion is that if you would pay $200 for paid sex with a 9 or 10 in the USA (most of us would), and would not do so in a foreign country (if that is the going price), then you really need to evaluate yourself in that light. Am I harsh? Maybe, so fucking what. Reading my reports lets you know I tend to be hardcore at whatever game I play...

Do play my friends...
LoveLOS

I just had the most evil thought... Next year, SH, Ed, BB and LL all need to walk in and call Shiela (and/or other shared GFEs) over to the table, just to see what would happen. I think she would faint... ;)

LoveLOS
02-12-07, 03:50
Parking:
Nogales is about a one hour drive from Tucson. When coming to the border area, I recommend parking rather than taking your car across. Uleta has a parking lot that has been recommended for years on this board, as does McDonalds. Ed's is A new parking lot. Apparently associated with McD's just before the big turn at the end of the interstate--just before Uletas. Prices are $4, but the guy collecting the fee seems to go home a lot earlier than the Uleta's guy. I never had to pay after 8pm and never had any hassle. The walk is about 150ft further as you have to walk thru the Uleta's lot to get there.

Crossing over:
In the 75 or so times I have crossed the border in Nogales over a 5 year period, I have never been noticed, or even slowed down by Mexican authorities. For that reason, I do not recomment pressing any buttons for any kind of voluntary declaration. Just walk thru. I cannot stress enough not to carry weapons, even cartridges, or drugs into Mexico.

Policia:
Unlike the USA, the police in Mexico have the right to stop you, ask for your identification, and search your person and belongings for any reason they see fit. Probable cause and unreasonable search laws we cherish in the USA do not exist. Reasons I have given for having been stopped and searched no less than four times in Nogales are: Handing something to a known drug dealer (a tout) riding in an illegally registered taxi Standing on a street corner too long Walking out of a dark alley with a woman.I need not tell you that I was not carrying any drugs or paraphenalia at the time of search, or I would not be here in the USA typing this report. Remember too that it is a good idea to be polite. A bad cop can just as easily plant something on you as not if he does not like you. If a small bribe is asked, I would be inclined to pay it. I has never been asked of me yet--I would love some other opinions on this point if you regulars would care to chime in.

Crossing back:
As of now, US citizens can cross with a Drivers License. A Passport will be required within the year, or so the rumor goes. I have never been searched, but my overnight bag is usually x-rayed. Need I stress not to carry drugs back? They expect you to tell them your country of citizenship, and I have observed agents getting shitty with others because Illinois is not a country. Smile, open your ID or Passport, say US citizen (if that applies) and that is usually the end of the formalities. Some will ask what you are doing in Nogales at 3am, but enjoying the nightlife is a perfectly legitimate answer. If I get meds at the pahrmacy, I usually declare what they are for--chest cold etc rather than risk having to produce a perscription. I do carry old presc bottles with me and drop the new meds into the bottle to save that hassle. Declare your booze, but take only the allowable amount each day.

Taxis:
The passing into Mexico dumps you off a a corner where the touts and taxis hand out waiting for you. Unless your destination is LaConga, the bar - whorehouse about 2km from the border, a taxi is pretty much unnecessary. LaConga is a $5 fare each way to and from. If you find yourself wishing to get a taxi to the border from anywhere in the city, tell the driver, "La Linea." You will be delivered back to the border crossing. You will be framed a fool to get into a taxi and asked to be taken to any other bar, as they are all within a short, safe walk.

Money:
Us dollars have worked fine in every transaction I have ever attempted. Bars and clubs generally price in dollars anyway. If you are staying at a hotel or buying food, they generally trade you at 10pesos = 1 dollar. The exhange rate is about 11:1, so you would get a 10% benefit for changing money. Buying meds or alcohol usually trades at or near the exchange rate. If you are going to drink and have sex in the clubs, take an extra $100 with you more than the acts themselves--drinks are about $5-$6 each, ladies drinks are usually $10-$11, every asshole from the waiter to the guys in ties to the guy manning the door to the privados has his hand out for his tip.

Condoms:
The use of condoms by the girls is almost universal for blowjobs and sex, which is a good thing if you ask me. If you are taking a girl to your hotel, have a supply of them there. Many of the girls do not have them. For those of you that have a problem with using a raincoat, and I have met some mongers with just such an issue, I cannot recommend Nogales. They have had very poor luck getting service. One guy got laid bareback only after three days and three dates, two of which did not work out well for him. Remember, most of the girls are practicing Catholics, so while a condom and paid sex are sins for which they seem to be able recieve pardon, pregnancy is for keeps.

Alcohol:
May be purchased at any number of liquor stores for consumption in Nogi or the USA. If taking it back, it must be un-opened. You can buy liquor from 12pm to 12 am. I ususally buy a bottle for the hotel, and if I intend to drink a lot in a single club, we often get a bottle of our favorite, bring it to the club and pay the bar a $40 bottle fee. That way you can drink a whole fifth in an evening for about $65 without paying $6 a shot, which, due to the size of the shots they serve would cost about double.

Drugs:
Pharmacies abound for perscription and non-perscription meds, usually at about half of USA costs unless you are on a good med plan. If you need a perscription, one can be procured. There is one 24 hour pharmacy available, the touts will show you where it is. Of particular interest to this board are Cialis for $10-$12 per tab, Viagra for $10 per tab, and generic viagra for $5-$6 per tab. For the sake of completeness of this report; and although I cannot recommend it, illegal drugs such as marijuana (Mary Jane), Cocaine, Meth, and Ice are available. It has been offered to me by touts, junkies in the hotel, waiters, and even a girl once. If you choose this very risky behavior, be warned that the police do pay informants handsomely, and Mexican jail is worse than a bad dream. Be very picky with whom and how you deal in such matters.

Food and water:
I have found the food at the steet stalls, hotels, and restraunts to be good, inexpensive, and safe. I have not yet gotten sick eating in Nogales. I do drink only bottled water and avoid ice in any non-alcoholic drink.

Touts:
An ever present plague, but as I have mentioned earlier, make them work for you. The simplest form is the guy who gets $1 when he successfully brings you to a TD bar and you pay your cover charge. Most of them are a waste of good oxygen, but a few actually have a phone list if you do not wish to pay TD club prices.

Guys in ties:
Same as touts, except they are the guys that arrange dates who work for the TD bars. They always want their tip, and it is usually more than a tout would charge.

Hotels:
I have tried four chica-friendly hotels so far in Nogales. Remember, takeout from the clubs is usually an option for $0 - $20 more than sexo in the club, but the girls are on the clock. Taking them back to the hotel after work saves the club fee but sometimes leaves you holding your balls.
Granada $42 is the nicest, but I found it just out of cell phone range and a pretty good hike from the zona.
Olivia $42 is about four blocks from Obsessions is a good choice, quiet and comfortable.
An old one on the back street behind Bolerios. This was $20 for short time, but I do not know the daily rate, I was not impressed.
The newest hotel is Pancho Villa ($40), picture below taken by Rue Kraft on the international board. It is not as quiet, as many of the guests are also mongers, touts, working girls, and the occasional meth/coke addicts on a 20+ day binge. It is close to the action, situated on the back street behind and between Lust and Placers.
There is a nice looking hotel between VIP and Potros Cantina which is NOT lady friendly.
The action in Nogales, listed geographically:

La Conga:
Not a TD bar. This is a bar in which all of the girls that haunt the place are definately for sale. I believe the current rate is $65 for full service, including the girl for one pop in a room attached to the bar. The condom is extra. This is a hit or miss place, mostly miss. The girls, tend to the fugly side, although some real gems have come out of this bar over the years. Drinks are inexpensive, but the ladies drinks are still twice as much as yours. The place has gone downhill since the Carla/Paola Heyday. The place is not presently heated, winter chill keeps the girls in heavy coats, which may be a good thing based on my observations this Feb. Worth a look if you have time, little money, and want a little bit of a walk on the wild side without really sticking your neck out.

Obsessions:
Obsessions is the only TD bar in the right side of the tracks (facing south from the border). To ge there, walk one block straight ahead from the taxi stand at the border, make the next left and it is 30 feet up that street on the left. Open Tue thru Sat starting at 7pm. They have a fair stable with three or four real hotties on a good night. They have a central stage, pool table, 5-6 open privados and one room with a couch and bathroom.

Other bars on the right side of the tracks:
All of the others bars in the 5 block area are more or less regular bars, but there are a lot of willing partners that can come out of them with you, assuming you have a hotel room and decent enough Spanish to make the deal.

The following bars are located on the left side of the tracks. They can be accessed by turning left at the border taxi stand, going 1 block to the traffic circle, turn left and crossing to a small park and then continuing straight across the railroad tracks to come out on a two-block area between the tracks and the mountain. If you get confused, fear not, there will probably be a tout to guide whether you want him there or not as you make the journey. The georaphical listing here starts at the fartherest point south of the zona and proceeds north on the front street then around the block to the back street, heading south again.

VIP:
Starting at the far south of the Zona, about 150 meters from the middle of the strip, VIP is best known as the after hours club since it stays open until about 4am. There are actually two floors, the bottom, street level, floor has been productive for me when other late-hour options were unproductive.

Massage Parlor:
The ownership appears to be the same as Lust and the other massage parlor on the other end of the block. The dancers from that club get shuffled back and forth to the MP. I have used both MPs in the past. Fee stucture is $40 for the room/massage + your choice of $50 for a HJ, $70 for a BJ, or $100 for everything. A viable alternative to sex in a closet.

Potros Cantina:
A regular pickup bar, good values if not hot chicas. I have pulled several unsatisfactory $25-$50 full service dates from there, but the quality was low and the rush factor was high. YMMV as my Spanish sucks.

Bolerios:
A large club right in the middle of the block. It now opens around noon and goes 7 days. The stable is pretty good, with some of my favorites, with three or four real hotties on a good night. They have a central stage, pool table, 4 open privados and one room with a bench and bathroom.

Lust:
formerly Divas, and only open two weeks now, the place is assembling a nice group of girls. There were three hotties on my last visit. Owner is a bit hungry and I negotiated $150 for an hour for a girl in my room, which is a $30 to $50 savings over Placers or Bolerios. They have a couch upstairs and two rooms which were unfirnished but the owner offered to take the cushions from the couch for fucking... Keep this on the tour and see how things progress.

Placers:
A medium size club that is a Nogi standard. The stable fair, but we found a couple of real gems there. They have a tiny central stage, pool table, 8 open privados. They also have and one room with a bed and bathroom on the side of the building.

Cherrys:
The classic daytime spot, I have never had occasion to, or been tempted by any of the ladies there, so I do not know the layout beyond the stage.

Massage Parlor:
Same comments as above MP.

Lork Blacks:
At the north end of the block on the front street. This TD used to be the standard, but has fallen into disrepair. As of last year, the central stage, a pool table, and 6 open privados and there were rumors of a bed option. I did not venture into the place this year.

Club 69:
High prices and fake tits are the main attraction at this TD. I have not yet been impressed by anything I have seen at this club except for the short time one of my ATF's I had met at Obsessions worked there, briefly. I flatly refused to enter the place on this trip and have never been tempted by any providers there to even find out how about the layout of the private areas.

Fernis:
An iteresting little cross between a bar and a TD. Prices are the lowest of any of the TD bars. There is often one or no fine looking girls there, but always worth a value priced drink to have a look. They have a central stage, several privados and a room with a bed option onsite.

Prices:
They suck in Nogales. Way too fucking high in comparison to other Northwest border towns, especially for the higher-end models, which are found almost exclusively in TD clubs. As noted, full service can be found on the street from $20 to $100. In La Conga for $65. From TDs from $150 to $200. After hours with TD strippers for $100 - $150. Why? There are many reasons for this, including the proximity to central Arizona, where prices are just as high in Tucson or Phoenix, the small city size and traffic the city recieves. The governament is very conservative in comarison to Juaraz or TJ, so prostitution only thrives thru bribes, which probably cost the clubs a lot of money each year. The benefits are the girls are less jaded and the elusive GFE is easirer to find in Nogales than larger border towns, and there are a hell of a lot of 8's, 9's and even a few 10's for the size of the city. This topic has recently been heavily debated, so I will let it rest.

Hope this post helps the Nogi Newbies,
LoveLOS

Paul Stearn
02-12-07, 16:56
LOS - one of the best reports on Nogi I have read in the last 4 years, even the ones with maps don't compare. I for one say thank you very much.

PS

Ed...
02-12-07, 19:36
One pet peave I have is atta boy comments but damn, good job LOS!

Ed...
02-12-07, 20:08
LOS drooled:
"I just had the most evil thought... Next year, SH, Ed, BB and LL all need to walk in and call Shiela (and/or other shared GFEs) over to the table, just to see what would happen. I think she would faint... "



She's a professional. She'd smile poiltely at YOU guys and escort me to a private area, of course.

Seriously, I don't believe we speaking of the same Sheila.

A checklist:

5' 6" Blonde, Brick-house Jessica rabbit body, flat toned stomach and Angelina Jolie lips?
A smile so sincere you're pretty sure you're the first ever and she's SO happy your a nice, polilte and clean guy that Momma is gonna love as well?
Very vocal, hand on the back of the head dont stop the oral I'm gonna scream real loud with your tounge in my ass and then make all your sick wishes come true -Sheila?

She is gone from Nogi forever. At least that's the story I get.
Seriously, have you seen her?

Ed...

Sexhobbyist
02-12-07, 21:40
LOS drooled:
"I just had the most evil thought... Next year, SH, Ed, BB and LL all need to walk in and call Shiela (and/or other shared GFEs) over to the table, just to see what would happen. I think she would faint... "



She's a professional. She'd smile poiltely at YOU guys and escort me to a private area, of course.

Seriously, I don't believe we speaking of the same Sheila.

A checklist:

5' 6" Blonde, Brick-house Jessica rabbit body, flat toned stomach and Angelina Jolie lips?
A smile so sincere you're pretty sure you're the first ever and she's SO happy your a nice, polilte and clean guy that Momma is gonna love as well?
Very vocal, hand on the back of the head dont stop the oral I'm gonna scream real loud with your tounge in my ass and then make all your sick wishes come true -Sheila?

She is gone from Nogi forever. At least that's the story I get.
Seriously, have you seen her?

Ed...

Absolutely the most memorable woman in Nogales. She and I had a nearly six-month raging fuckfest in and out of the club about 3-4 times per week back in her (and my) heyday. I wrote about some of it on another, now defunct, board. I wish now that I should have pressed her harder for a more permanent relationship. She's the "one that got away" or "the one I let slip through my fingers."

Alas....(sigh)
Sexhobbyist

Pcpc1688
02-12-07, 22:01
LoveLOS,

I must commend you on a fine report. If you goto China anytime soon as I am here now, hit me up and I will give the the complete unabaited report. The girls here IMHO give the Chicas a hell of a run for the money. And speaking of $$, Mexico isnt cheap. The going price here for a top of the line bath house is $600 rmb = to $80 which includes bath, jacuzzi, dinner if you stay, private room for however long you want to stay with frech fruit and beverages. The main course is apprx. 90 minutes os 18 to 21 yr old delights that give you as many pops as Pops can pop. LOL

It was truly grand last night as my cousin and I partook and had a 5 hour ball. This little cutie was a 10 and all of 20 yrs old.

PC out from overseas

LoveLOS
02-13-07, 01:43
Remember, both of you said she is the one that got away. So I guess that means I can keep her? Right?

A checklist:

5' 6" Blonde, Brick-house Jessica rabbit body, flat toned stomach and Angelina Jolie lips?
A smile so sincere you're pretty sure you're the first ever and she's SO happy your a nice, polilte and clean guy that Momma is gonna love as well?
Very vocal, hand on the back of the head dont stop the oral I'm gonna scream real loud with your tounge in my ass and then make all your sick wishes come true -Sheila?

She is gone from Nogi forever. At least that's the story I get. Check, Not blonde, Hot body but Jessica Rabbit has some huge tits, check, check, check, and yes, fucking-a check. If it ain't her, she wears the name well.

Oh, that's right, I haven't posted my report about her in a foursome with BB and I... Dude, you do have to remember--LoveLOS has now been there, so maybe she just wants you to think she is gone forever... :D

Click the pic and LMK.
LL

Sexhobbyist
02-13-07, 19:36
Remember, both of you said she is the one that got away. So I guess that means I can keep her? Right?
Check, Not blonde, Hot body but Jessica Rabbit has some huge tits, check, check, check, and yes, fucking-a check. If it ain't her, she wears the name well.

Oh, that's right, I haven't posted my report about her in a foursome with BB and I... Dude, you do have to remember--LoveLOS has now been there, so maybe she just wants you to think she is gone forever... :D

Click the pic and LMK.
LL

Whew. Good thing I clicked on the picture. As Ed will testify, that is not the same Sheila. That means she's still out there.
Sexhobbyist

Ed...
02-14-07, 23:33
I agree, not her. LOS, buddy, ever seen Jessica Rabbit?

Obsessions' owner has a number of bars across Mexico.
I heard Mazalan in there, but she had some papers to move to the US.

There was some problem with that, and I am pretty sure she found another way across. She has my number lol, sadly, they never call!

This is not her, but very close.

LoveLOS
02-15-07, 02:40
I agree, not her. LOS, buddy, ever seen Jessica Rabbit?Just in the theatre, never been with her... GFE?

Great News! Now I won't have you two pounding the dogshit out of her. Just wish I could keep Ieukio to myself also...

:D

LL

Benchseats Rock
02-15-07, 08:05
GFE?

Let me count the ways...

One one thousand, Two one thousand, Three one thousand.....


(Couldn't resist... sorry.... :D )

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 01:38
OK the banter here has gotten to the BSr level, so it's time for a trip report...

Day 6 ---Continued---

...from my Lorania / Muñeca post...

Where was I? Oh yes, I had just gotten the evil news that Lorania was pissed at LL. If you read my 2003 Posts from Bangkok (link from first part of this report), you will know what I did. A nice mixture of groveling and total bullshit. Of course, it was not until I made her laugh at me that she couldn't put on the "I hate you" aires any longer. She did eventually kiss me goodbye, even if I have a feeling all is not perfect. If we meet again I promise to treat her like a queen. She is a Ms LL, therefore, she needs to understand I will cheat on her... :D Women, gotta love em.

By the time I got out of OBS, it was getting late. I wandered around a bit, got some street food, and went back to OBS at closing time to claim Paulina. Fortunately I did not see Lorania. Paulina came back to the hotel. I was a bit disappointed in her attitude. Could have been because she had always been second or third on my list all week long, could have been because she is so fucking shy (no pictures, the one here is a re-post of the one on the L.O.N. website, like three years old.), or it could have been because she saw the whole thing between Lorania and I. Who the fuck knows, probably the challenge was she was not the party girl like I had become accustomed to all week long.

On the other hand, she is a good girl... We fucked like rabbits in all my favorite positions, twice. I had a lot of pussy previously that week, and busting the nut was getting a bit harder... We were both getting exhausted, so when it came around to round two at doggie, I felt I needed a tighter hole, which was about two inches above the one I had been using. I was gentle as possible and she didn't complain. It was good, tight, and [shiver]... I blew the load in about two minutes, Sweeet. She did not ask for one, but I gave her an extra $20 tip for the bonus...

Paulina:
Face: 7
Body: 7+
Attitude: 8
$100 + $20 tip for anal.

I was wired from the relatively short night and low alcohol intake, so I hung out by second floor landing outside the room at the Pancho Villa. I was kinda hoping to pull a Munch Lunch (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=547300#post547300). I met another monger and a pair of drug addicts on a 10+ day high. Finally the other guy had some intel on the Club 69 girls staying at the hotel. We went up to their room to meet them. He was excited, but all three were a bit average looking. Granted, no high heels, short miniskirts or makeup, but I would have had to been a bit more stoned than I was to take one of them back downstairs. Big Red, you'ld would have loved one of them-big D's and a soft bubble ass. Sorry Smilin Foxy, they were way too young for you--in their 20's, just kids... :p

Finally gave up and hit the sack at about 5:30am... Get some sleep for the big game--Super Hole 2007.

LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 02:23
Super Hole Party 2007 Ieyuki, Shiela & Cytlali

We had set the bar very very high in the 2006 season with the highlight of a double date with Melody & Sara. My wingman is one of the more rabid Colt fans, and we arrived in Nogi with him having downed about 18 shots of teqilla and a serious "my boys kicked ass" attitude. LL was running wingman to cover my brothers ass.

Super Sunday, and so OBS was closed. Now Mr Attitude wanted nothing to do with Abe, so that also precluded Bolerios. We had done pretty well at Placers on our first night with Ieukio and Shiela. We managed to pick up Luis and another monger I had met in my hotel. The four of us walk in and sit down a row back from the stage. Much to the chagrin of BB, who had tagged her on the first night, Ieuki saw me, came over and sat in my lap. He didn't have to fume for long because Shiela also saw us and came to him.

We had a couple of drinks and pretty much made the deal for the two girls for our annual "Super Hole Party," but we wanted to chill a few minutes first. Ieuki went to dance and was grabbed for a privado. The bar called the 2 for 1 thing again and all the girls got onto the stage. Shiela was the first pulled off. Nothing else I would want. Ieuki came back for the second song of that deal and she was escorted up on stage, and lasted 15 seconds before being selected and escorted back down. Although I had them pegged as the two finest in the bar, apparently some others thought so also.

Half an hour later, they were finished with their dances, dressed in street clothes and on our arms heading to the Pancho Villa. We were, of course feeling little pain, and the party was the equal, if not better than the 2006 event. Well for me anyway. In 2006, we had two eventual Mrs LLs in the room, but my ATF (Sara) was being fucked by BB, and Melody was my second fave... I got it right this time, Ieuki was in my bed, and my buddies will attest to my preference for black hair and that Asian-like look. The girl rocks my world just thinking about her.

Recalling the challenges I had getting off with Paulina, and with BB in the same relative condition, but both of us a fifth of tequilla to the good, we had a nice long party... One quote I missed from sharing nearby privados on night one came clearly to mind during the party;

BB said of Ieuki, "we have a trooper here."

He was right. I exhausted myself fucking her in all the favorite positions, and was laying there trying to get enough energy to go another round when she started the oral/manual work... Normally BB is the screamer, but tonight, Ieuki made LL the vocal one... OMFG. Ms LL material? I'm thinking about it... I think we need to meet again, I can't seem to get enough of her.

Shiela:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 9
$180 + drinks

Ieuki:
Face:9
Body: 9
Attitude: 10+
$180 + drinks

It was early when we returned them to Placers. Probably 1am. Our plan was not to go to Bolerios because of Abe, so BB waited outside with Luis while LL scouted to see who was in Bolerios. No Babydoll or Brenda, Yuki had not been seen since night one, so I had given up on her. There was the tall, stunningly beautiful girl who never smiled and never looked my way and got so few dates it made me ill for her. Damn with a good attitude she would have been an all-star. Oh fuck, Abe. I gave him the straight up reasons why BB didn't come in and why I was not hanging around anymore; he wasn't happy I was not pleased with his service this year. We'll see if he is teachable... Two weeks and he hasn't called, a good sign.

I was about to leave and I saw Cytlaly. Now, I knew I needed a tight pussy to get me off tonight, and she has the tightest one in Nogi... I made sure she waited for me and I went out to take leave of my friends. BB went stateside to sleep off his tequilla, and I went to Bolerios to drink more and fondle Cytlali until closing time.

She has a great attitude, and as I mentioned, the tightest pussy in Nogi... (Yes, tighter than Lorania). I got my nut in a reasonable amount of time. I think I mentioned I love those kidney tats when viewed from doggie position... OMFG. As a special treat, this is the source material for some of my banter, highlighted by the Yep, I am so married... again post because I was able to ring her bell and she really, really appreciated it...

Cytlali:
Face: 6-8 (depending on how you like the exotic look)
Body: 9+
Attitude: 10
$150 + drinks

Sent her home and crashed really hard...

GO Colts.
LOveLOS

LoveLOS
02-16-07, 23:44
I have mentioned Lips of an Angel in about 10 reports this year, so for those whose taste in music is unlike mine, I thought posting the lyrics would be helpful to unlock the mystery of my sometimes cryptic remarks. The lyrics cener around a former lover, and niether party has emotionally moved on. Still, the regret and longing speak to any uf us who really would rather be with some hooker we have spent an hour with than the woman with whom we are spending our lives. And if you have ever had a hooker call you when you were at home...


Honey why you calling me so late?
It's kinda hard to talk right now.
Honey why are you crying? Is everything okay?
I gotta whisper 'cause I can't be too loud

Well, my girl's in the next room
Sometimes I wish she was you
I guess we never really moved on
It's really good to hear your voice say my name
It sounds so sweet
Coming from the lips of an angel
Hearing those words it makes me weak

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

It's funny that you're calling me tonight
And, yes, I've dreamt of you too
And does he know you're talking to me
Will it start a fight
No I don't think she has a clue

Well my girl's in the next room
Sometimes I wish she was you
I guess we never really moved on
It's really good to hear your voice say my name
It sounds so sweet
Coming from the lips of an angel
Hearing those words it makes me weak

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

It's really good to hear your voice say my name
It sounds so sweet
Coming from the lips of an angel
Hearing those words it makes me weak

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

Honey why you calling me so late?
The song has become my acid-test for obsession. I hear it and think of women I wish were on the other end of the conversation. The one whose face I see is my obsession of the moment. Unfortunately, for a year that face was of Sara. (link to my favorite pic) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26050) ummm, (or is this my fevorite pic?) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27590). Lately, Lorania (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36512), Ieuki (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36811), Cytrlaly (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36527) and Babydoll (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36545) have been vying for the leading role. It has been said that, "More is better."

If it isn't worth obsessing over, perhaps it isn't worth doing...
LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-17-07, 00:32
Last day. Swansong. Solo, BB is absent yet again, some drivel about having drunk too much the day before. Whatever. He is still the guy that has proven he can hang with the LL better than any other, so I'll cut him some slack. Don't think I will give Ed so much grace, I mean, since when is work an excuse for not driving an hour to live the dream most men don't have the balls to live. OK, yep, I understand. You're good in my book too buddy.

Monday is a slow day in Nogales. What will tonight hold? Who will be my queen of the evening? I want only the finest, no slumming here. I really didn't have a yearn for anything new, my girlfriends this trip have provided some of the best sex and greatest fun ever. If I am to dream of notching it up a bit, the base platform realistically needs to be a repeat of a favorite.

Oh. You assholes just want a trip report, not more of my obsessing over my fuckfaves. Sorry.

OBS was still closed so my stable there, a redlining Lorania, an anal bedroom eyes, and a new blonde bombshell Muñeca, were not on the menu. Sara was a possibility if I enlisted the services of Abe for a phonecall. Maybe. Ieuki was high on the list if I could find her at Placers. Of course, Bolerio had Babydoll, Brenda, Cytlali and possibly even Yuki, odds went with Bolerio, so that is what LL did.

I walked in. Abe was absent, so Sara was off the menu. Never thought I would want to see the SOB. There was only one girl present. I mentioned her before. She is tall and a real stunner, but I have never seen a smile on her face--I cannot immagine fucking such a beautiful starfish. Her laying there on her back, arms and legs splayed out, with the hole in the center to pound until you cum. Woo fucking hoo.

I was standing at the bar talking to the guy when the bathroom door opens. A petite little hardbody with long reddish-black hair in a tight black top. OMFG, Yuki. She recognized me at about the same time and ran to me. I knew my fate was sealed, BB and I had a swapped partners on the first night, so I had tasted of this sweet morsal for a most wonderful session of DATY. She has possibly the largest g-spot of any girl I have ever had the pleasure to finger fuck, and she really enjoys the stimulation in that manner. Did I mention she has a fucking wonderful attitude?

We sat down to party a bit and another object of my affection appeared. Babydoll Benz. Unlike real life, where BB's significant other is sacred, our paid girlfriends are definately for sharing, and I had shared Babydoll with him and alone with my wingman's blessing. Babydoll has the best attitude both in the bar and in the bedroom of any of the girls. Her party attitude is infective.

Now my fate was really sealed. I needed to fuck both women on this, my final and finest night. It was amazing how that first night in Nogales really really did set the stage for the rest of the week. Our superhole party with two of the stars, and now my last night for this trip with the other two queens of that night. But which one first? I searched my heart while partying with them. They had me up dancing, and since the dancefloor was not busy (I was sitting with 50% of the talent that night) they got me up on the main dancerfloor. I am sure LL on the brass pole is not a picture those who know me really want to bring to mind, but add Babydoll and Yuki dirty dancing with me, and, well, you get the picture. Deal with it.

Babydoll then did something I feel was significant. She gave me a necklace she was wearing. OMFG, that has rarely happened with any working girl I have been with, and the few other times it has. I felt it was significant. At that moment I decided I wanted all night to explore the possibilities with this beautiful, fun, playful young woman. And the horndog in me kept yelling about the only woman on the whole trip whom I had assigned a 10 for body, especially considering the daughters of Nogales I had ruined this trip. To broker the deal, I started with the woman with an emotional stake. I told her I had promised to date Yuki, but wanted her for more time after the bar closed. My spanish sucks, but we also used the text input on the cellphone to enter key information. We scheduled a date for 3: 30am.

Midnight, time to fuck Yuki. Apparently due to our previous encounter, she was very comfortable with me and had come prepared to party. We drank for a bit and slowly, like you were seducing your highschool girlfriend, we got naked. As you well know, this girl loves oral and manual stimulation, simultaneously and in great amounts. She was quivering and told me to stop. "I want to finish inside. Please fuck me now. "

That is music to an old mongers ears to hear a 21year old mother of one that still has a "10" spinner body (except for that ceasarian line). Lips of an angel? Hmmmmmmmmm. No, we never did get the emotional attachment that is required by that song, but the title fits. Sure wish SWMBO© understood what she was missing if she would open her mind and fuck me to tears each night, but I digress.

The fuck was amazing, she was intoxicationg and I was intoxicated. The net result was we were both satisfied. I escorted Yuki back to Bolerios.

Yuki: Face: 9 Body: 10 Attitude: 10 $200 + drinks

I made sure I found Babydoll and confirmed our date. Then I went stateside to get a little gift to give to her tonight. I was back at about 2: 45am and caught Babydolls eye as she was being sent downstairs by the guys in ties trying to close for the night. A smile and a blown kiss.

I was let outside, and waited in the back. It then occured to me she may have come out the front. No, was the word. I sent my waiter back in an he says she is coming in five minutes. They locked up in about 3: 45. One guy said she had left 15 minutes ago. Went to the hotel, not there. WTF? Waited at the hotel until almost 4am. No babydoll, no clue what happened. I am still wearing the necklace.

At the hotel, I was starting to explore other options, even if just a grudge fuck to get Babydoll out of my system. The drug addict lady would have been a freebie (seems her boyfriend couldn't get it up on blow), but I would not have fucked her with Ed's dick. Hell, I don't think Ed would even have fucked her with his own, but I guess that is pure speculation. She did have a $50 menu. "What kind of party girl you want? A crack girl, or meth, or coke, or mary jane? " Mary Jane seemed the least probablility for a drama queen, so she suggested a hot girl that she would call for me. I glanced over at Luis, whose opinion I had come to respect. He wispered he knew the girl but she was not up to my standard. Now, I understand that advice was probably self serving, but then too a $50 session with a girl who is selected based on her favorite drug addiction is probably a persscription for trouble. I advised her I would look around and get back to her if I needed her help.

We moved out to VIP. By 4: 15 I had selected a 9 from VIP with only a so-so attitude. We were negotiating the date when Luis again delivered the devastating news, "She is on the rag. " Laugh or cry? I laughed and pointed out the runner up. It was getting late enough that even VIP was closing, so there was no return time for this one. Kenya is a brown haired beauty with a much better attitude than the rag girl would have been. She partied a bit with me in the room, and we had a damn good fuck. This one has great possibilities to develop into a favorite but for the timing and the circumstances. After what I had experienced in the week, I almost felt like I was slummin to fuck an 8-- a woman who any sane man would love to fuck and who would not give me the time of day if not for the money.

Kenya:
Face: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 7
$180 + drinks

SMWSLT©,
LoveLOS


SMWSLT ©2005LoveLOS First used 44 times to date on USAsexguide, first used in this report... (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=377760&highlight=SMWSLT#post377760)

SWMBO ©2005LoveLOS First used 10 times to date on USAsexguide, first used in this report... (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=334743&highlight=SWMBO#post334743)

Sexhobbyist
02-17-07, 11:00
As usual—WOW!. Great reports. Can't wait to see you next year and be part of your Nogie reports. I'll do my best to hold down the fort until your return. In the meantime, Nogie is open for business and it's an easy drive for those with the balls, attitude, and money to party like a monger. LoveLOS has set the standard.
Sexhobbyist

Donorita
02-17-07, 23:16
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]I have mentioned Lips of an Angel in about 10 reports this year, so for those whose taste in <a href="http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/?go=music">music</a> is unlike mine, I thought posting the lyrics would be helpful to unlock the mystery of my sometimes cryptic remarks. The lyrics cener around a former lover, and niether party has emotionally moved on. Still, the regret and longing speak to any uf us who really would rather be with some hooker we have spent an hour with than the woman with whom we are spending our lives. And if you have ever had a hooker call you when you were at <a href="http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/?go=home">home</a>...


Honey why you calling me so late?
It's kinda hard to talk right now.
Honey why are you crying? Is everything okay?
I gotta whisper 'cause I can't be too loud

Well, my girl's in the next room
Sometimes I wish she was you
I guess we never really moved on
It's really good to hear your voice say my name
It sounds so sweet
Coming from the lips of an angel
Hearing those words it makes me weak

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

It's funny that you're calling me tonight
And, yes, I've dreamt of you too
And does he know you're talking to me
Will it start a fight
No I don't think she has a clue

Well my girl's in the next room
Sometimes I wish she was you
I guess we never really moved on
It's really good to hear your voice say my name
It sounds so sweet
Coming from the lips of an angel
Hearing those words it makes me weak

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

It's really good to hear your voice say my name
It sounds so sweet
Coming from the lips of an angel
Hearing those words it makes me weak

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

And I never wanna say goodbye
But girl you make it hard to be faithful
With the lips of an angel

Honey why you calling me so late?
The song has become my acid-test for obsession. I hear it and think of women I wish were on the other end of the conversation. The one whose face I see is my obsession of the moment. Unfortunately, for a year that face was of [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?

I can see how it would be easy to be obsessed with her. I had a relationship with a similar girl for about 3 years. I still haven't recovered even though ending it was my idea. I even made my stupid "sceen name" after her. She was completely out of the "business" while we were together, now she's back into it somewhere in Mexico and I feel guilty. The lyrics to the song hit home.

LoveLOS
02-18-07, 23:51
I can see how it would be easy to be obsessed with her. I had a relationship with a similar girl for about 3 years. I still haven't recovered even though ending it was my idea. I even made my stupid "sceen name" after her. She was completely out of the "business" while we were together, now she's back into it somewhere in Mexico and I feel guilty. The lyrics to the song hit home.Donorita,
Ouch. I almost quit hobbying one time when I got too close to a girl. My friends will recall the three months of AWOL last year. I just found her pics (not posted here) and :eek:!

Funny you mentioned the screen name. I picked LoveLOS, which stands for Love-Land of Smiles (LOS=Thailand). The screenname really should have been LoveTAI. Tai is "theGirl" from my 2003 trip there. I have never posted her name before, and the attached pic is the only edited one I have posted so far. I will continue to withold most of her many many pictures I have of her since she is no longer working, married to a farang and just gave birth to a son. Yes, we are still in touch.

In night 6, I put links to the two nights I effectively lost her, and here is alink to the night I met her (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=124853&post=124853). She is the original Ms LoveLOS.

There are those who have suggested I change my screen name to "AmoreMEX" but AM has already been taken by AtlMonger... :p

Speaking of "just found" pics, I was cleaning up my memory stick for use in the camera again and noticed that, in my drunken stupor of the trip, I missed a few pics! Hell, I had one I didn't recognize! OMFG!!!

I think it is of Kenya, looks like her, the last girl I was with. The picture number is right before Paulina... WTF? I don't think I met and fucked any other girls that night. Geeeze. Next year, I need a wingman with me every night. This just won't do...

Other pics I missed, Sara in the mirror. Shit, that one started getting into my head. I may have to call her and find out WTF happened to her all week. I just know if I do, all is lost. Haven't called Lorania either. Avoidance issues becasue I know what will fucking happen to my obsessive little brain.

Also missed some pics of Paulina, AKA "bedroom eyes," and a closeup of Cytralily

Enjoy, I did.
LoveLOS

Kirstyforme
02-20-07, 19:45
Donorita,

Ouch. I almost quit hobbying one time when I got too close to a girl. My friends will recall the three months of AWOL last year. I just found her pics (not posted here) and :eek:!

Funny you mentioned the screen name. I picked LoveLOS, which stands for Love-Land of Smiles (LOS=Thailand). The screenname really should have been LoveTAI. Tai is "theGirl" from my 2003 trip there. I have never posted her name before, and the attached pic is the only edited one I have posted so far. I will continue to withold most of her many many pictures I have of her since she is no longer working, married to a farang and just gave birth to a son. Yes, we are still in touch.
LoveLOSYour reports are the most comprehensive I've seen and I can only say I wish to join you someday in the land of our brothers to the south.

For my own case, my screen name also comes as a reminder of a 'lost love' from another time and place. I lived in the UK for a period of time and met a working girl there that took my breath away (and a bit more). Kept in touch with her for many years after coming home and even flew her out to visit me one summer! Talk about getting too close to a girl! Alas, something has happened and she doesn't return my calls anymore. Never found out but I miss her terribly. I guess the only way to get her out of my head is to monger on.

LoveLOS
02-20-07, 23:45
I knew it was going to happen. It was driving me crazy all evening. The lost three hours where I could not remember what I did on Day 6. The picture, of a girl I thought I fucked on my last night, but the time, date and filename placed it on Day 6 before I had Paulina after hours. Mental block.

I got a PM from a guy wanting to know how hard it was to get a BBBJ in Nogi. I knew I had two, one from the $20 street girl and another from someone else, but I'm sure it wasn't one of my fave girls since I dated most of them twice or more. I went to sleep thinking about it. Woke up with a woody thinking about that BBBJ...and I remembered:

Day 6, after fucking Muñeca and getting the hot latina scorned treatment from Lorania, I walked out of Obsessions with very mixed feelings. I needed a drink and some food. Luis was with me as we walked up to the corner (take a left out of OBS) where there are two taco stands and a hotdog stand. Luis casually mentions to me the girls at the hotdog stand are nice and "they will go with you for $100." Hmmmmmmmm. It was cold out, but one of them looked pretty nice. Turns out one is 6 months preggo, and the other is only 2 months preggo. I cannot remember her name but it starts with a "C" I think. I'll call her "Hotdog Girl."

I bought a hotdog, ate it there, and took the purveyor to go. Back in the room, I found she was pretty hot. The tummy was just beginning to show, see pic, but her body was fine nonetheless. She did not want extended DATY, probably thought I was gonna slobber on the kid. :) She did choose to slobber on Little LL though, a mighty fine BBBJ. She slipped the cover on and cowgirled for a while, and despite the Altzhiemers, I have this latent picture in my mind about finishing in mish.

And then she was gome.

I talked with some of the residents in that hotel landing until it was time to go get Paulina.

I am still able to edit my post on the international board, so DAY 6 is fixed there, a good read (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563521&post=563521&highlight=hotdog)...

Please note the picture of KENYA in the previous post is not Kenya, it is Hotdog Girl

LoveLOS

PS OK BSr, let me have it...

PSS The only way for LL to top this trip, is to go to Bangkok. I'm thinking September... Any fools want try to keep up with LL there?

LoveLOS
02-21-07, 06:32
I guess the only way to get her out of my head is to monger on.You got it my brother. When one starts getting in your head, the best medicine is to go fuck another one, ASAP! That even works when you S.O. pisses you off or isn't in the mood. :D

I am laughing about Day 6, I had to fuck three of them, and she (Lorania) got pissed about that, but WTF? It's My brain I have to keep inside my head, not pining after a woman or a fantasy. I'm past her now, not that I won't jump at the chance to fuck her all night again, but at least I am not being tormented this yeat like I was last year.

Thanks for the props,
LL

Superman06
02-21-07, 13:44
Super Hole Party 2007 Ieyuki, Shiela & Cytlali
GO Colts.

LOveLOSNow, be honest. Isn't that circle twice the size it needs to be? lol ;)

Kirstyforme
02-21-07, 17:36
You got it my brother. When one starts getting in your head, the best medicine is to go fuck another one, ASAP! That even works when you S.O. pisses you off or isn't in the mood. :D

LLBest advice I've ever heard! I think I'll just have to do that. A wise man once said, "only love 'em when you're with 'em" or something like that.

LoveLOS
02-24-07, 05:12
Now, be honest. Isn't that circle twice the size it needs to be? lol ;)Dude, the package fits nicely in either of those two lovely mouths, so it is true that the circle is larger than required, but I felt that few of the viewers would have a real complaint.

Kristy,
Am I a bad influence, again...

Find fuck forget. I don't truly subscribe to the forget part, which has gotten me into trouble way too often. I'm workin on it though.

Superman06
02-24-07, 07:59
Dude, the package fits nicely in either of those two lovely mouths, so it is true that the circle is larger than required, but I felt that few of the viewers would have a real complaint.Just joking with you. It looks like you had quite the trip. Some great reporting. Your posting on Nogales Basics is very useful. I feel an "obsession" for Yuki from just looking at her photos. I was worn out by just reading some of your reports. I don't think I had that much stamina when I was 18!

Merlin Magician
02-24-07, 14:54
Us Texas boys used to belong to the 4 F Club (as opposed to 4 H).
We called it, "Find em, Feed em, Fuck em, Forget em."

Kirstyforme
02-26-07, 14:36
Us Texas boys used to belong to the 4 F Club (as opposed to 4 H).

We called it, "Find em, Feed em, Fuck em, Forget em."I seem to have trouble with the "Forget em" part. Seems when I find a good one I naturally want to keep going back to the well. Guess I just need to find another stable instead.

Thanks for the support network.

Dick North
02-26-07, 20:59
Us Texas boys used to belong to the 4 F Club (as opposed to 4 H).
We called it, "Find em, Feed em, Fuck em, Forget em."
OK Bud that is a military expression, so we definitely need to get together one of these days to share other such expressions.
DN

Sexhobbyist
02-28-07, 13:06
OK Bud that is a military expression, so we definitely need to get together one of these days to share other such expressions.
DN

I was Air Force and we had a similar expression: Find em, Feel em, Fuck em, Forget em. (Why in the world would you want to spend money feeding them?)
Sexhobbyist

Dick North
02-28-07, 17:59
I was Air Force and we had a similar expression: Find em, Feel em, Fuck em, Forget em. (Why in the world would you want to spend money feeding them?)
Sexhobbyist
As ex-Army, there were many such expressions. In boot camp, I recall our morning requirement of "shit, shine, shave & shower". Only on leave were we allowed to "find em, feed em, fuck em and forget em"

As a commissioned officer however, those expressions were 'beneath us' ... definitely unbecoming an officer and a gentleman.

The military did have its unforgettable expressions.

DN

LoveLOS
02-28-07, 23:53
Find em, Feel em, Fuck em, Forget em. (Why in the world would you want to spend money feeding them?)As usual, the SH shows his wisdom. Only reason I can think of feeding them is if you want them to come back, so it defeats the forget function.

Ricardo Norte,
OK, for ossifers and gentlemongers, how about a twisted variation of Caesar's finest quote: "Vedi, Vici, Veni -- I Saw, I Conquered, I Came" ©2007 BSR

BTW-four new girls later and I am can almost go all day without pining over one of my Nogi girls from this year--and it isn't the same one I'm pining over, so that is a good thing.

LoveLOS

PS - Thanks Super.

Dick North
03-02-07, 20:11
Ricardo Norte,
OK, for ossifers and gentlemongers, how about a twisted variation of Caesar's finest quote: "Vedi, Vici, Veni -- I Saw, I Conquered, I Came" [post=504414]©2007 BSR[/post

LL, once again you amaze me with your wit and resourcefulness.

With your knowledge of latin, you must have once been a good Catholic school boy. No?

Take care

DN

LoveLOS
03-02-07, 23:12
you must have once been a good Catholic school boy. No?

...and...

We all need to get together!


...good Catholic school boy? No. But my latin teacher sure was pissed when I opted for Spanish instead. That is one class I wish I had listened better. Who knew that I would be putting my Spanish to work years later to get laid by women who weren't even born when I was sleeping thru class?

As far as all needing to get together... Ahem. Nobody listens to the LoveLOS until it is too late...

Just givin you shit :p

LL

Baltimonger
03-02-07, 23:34
I was Air Force and we had a similar expression: Find em, Feel em, Fuck em, Forget em. (Why in the world would you want to spend money feeding them?)
Sexhobbyist

It depends what you're feeding them....

Why are my USAF BT memories so vague? All I remember from Lackluster AFB was scraping the black shit from between the floor tiles in the dorm with my dog tags, and not much else. I did get laid the day after graduation from BT with my 1st SW though:)

Ed...
05-13-07, 15:16
Till June. She was home for a bit.

She shows the effect of ten years of playing, just like we do. She still has that sparkle, what a sensual girl.

You really should go to her, rekindle that romance and marry her! She is ready to settle down and make some one very, very happy.

Then, have me over for a BBQ!


Ed...


Absolutely the most memorable woman in Nogales. She and I had a nearly six-month raging fuckfest in and out of the club about 3-4 times per week back in her (and my) heyday. I wrote about some of it on another, now defunct, board. I wish now that I should have pressed her harder for a more permanent relationship. She's the "one that got away" or "the one I let slip through my fingers."

Alas....(sigh)
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
05-29-07, 21:48
You really should go to her, rekindle that romance and marry her! She is ready to settle down and make some one very, very happy.

Then, have me over for a BBQ!


Ed...
I am trying to decide between Tucson/Nogales and TJ. Got my faves in Nogi, and the prices are better in TJ. Guess the swing vote will be if any of you guys want to party with LoveLOS?

Anybody want to party this coming weekend in Nogi? PM me.

Ed, your digits changed. Call or PM, por favor.

I think SH will have to come just to protect his territory. I'm asking for Shiela, right?


4 days...
LL

LoveLOS
06-01-07, 09:39
I decided to try another venue. We have a small Roundtable going in TJ on Saturday. If that is good with you, PM me.

To those who I have spoken by PM, check your box.

249 days,
LoveLOs

Drunk Irish
06-24-07, 19:41
I decided to try another venue. We have a small Roundtable going in TJ on Saturday. If that is good with you, PM me.

To those who I have spoken by PM, check your box.

249 days,
LoveLOsLooks like I missed you guys by a couple of weeks. I'll be in Tuscon in a couple of days.

Is there anything on the Mexico side of Nogales? Keep in mind I'm travelling and my spanish is pretty much non-existent.

Ed...
06-25-07, 17:14
The international sex guide . info will give you all you need on Nogi, Sonora. All of Los' exploits were done there, he just posts stateside to save on the import fees.
Ed...

Drunk Irish
06-25-07, 18:15
The international sex guide . info will give you all you need on Nogi, Sonora. All of Los' exploits were done there, he just posts stateside to save on the import fees.

Ed...Thanks, went to the World SG and found it. Talked to some folks here on the same business with me and they say, relatively speaking its pretty safe. I was a bit concerned since my spanish is horrible and I'm travelling alone. Map says the places are right across the border within a few blocks. Looks promising, will head there tomorrow and check it out. Although the prices. YIKES! Might as well stay here, ya know?

Ed...
06-25-07, 22:14
Where's here? Tucson or Nogi Az?
There are some good choices in Tucson- Emily Luna, Misty Love, and the well reviewed clubs etc for around the same price w/o the drive.
Mexico's worth a peek all the same, even if just once.
Ed...

Drunk Irish
06-25-07, 23:59
Where's here? Tucson or Nogi Az?

There are some good choices in Tucson- Emily Luna, Misty Love, and the well reviewed clubs etc for around the same price w/o the drive.

Mexico's worth a peek all the same, even if just once.

EdHere is Tuscon. Exactly as you said, same options without the drive. I got some backchannel info, so I'm set. I will drive down just to check it out, but thats it.

Thanks!

Drunk Irish
06-26-07, 20:28
Parking:

Nogales is about a one hour drive from Tucson. When coming to the border area, I recommend parking rather than taking your car across. Uleta has a parking lot that has been recommended for years on this board, as does McDonalds. Ed's is A new parking lot. Apparently associated with McD's just before the big turn at the end of the interstate--just before Uletas. Prices are $4, but the guy collecting the fee seems to go home a lot earlier than the Uleta's guy. I never had to pay after 8pm and never had any hassle. The walk is about 150ft further as you have to walk thru the Uleta's lot to get there.

Hope this post helps the Nogi Newbies,

LoveLOSCan we stick this whole post by Lovelos? I would have saved myself a ton of aggravation if I had found this post. It was buried a bit deep and I was doing a bit more research and stumbled across it.

I got there during the day, and everything was closed. What was open, I didn't know about it or trust, so I didn't go in, and maybe I would have--I also would have travelled in the evening, too.

Great post, even better if it can be made permanent somehow.

LoveLOS
08-17-07, 03:50
Can we stick this whole post by Lovelos? I would have saved myself a ton of aggravation if I had found this post. It was buried a bit deep and I was doing a bit more research and stumbled across it.

I got there during the day, and everything was closed. What was open, I didn't know about it or trust, so I didn't go in, and maybe I would have--I also would have travelled in the evening, too.

Great post, even better if it can be made permanent somehow.

If you get here just the right way (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=343), there is a thread called Reports of Distinction. The report you are seeking is linked to by Bench.

Here is the direct link, but this too will get buried.

And thank you.
LL

Dune 975
10-03-07, 23:43
On a trip to Tucson, I'm planning to go to Nogales. I plan this while seeing some negatives on the International board and indications on the Tucson board that just as much could happen in strip clubs there, but I don't know that I could count on it as a first-time visitor.

So the Report of Distinction gives a lot of information. I'm thinking of going Sunday early evening with Placers as my main destination; any comments on that? What about where to have dinner: north or south of the border?

LoveLOS
10-04-07, 23:42
On a trip to Tucson, I'm planning to go to Nogales. I plan this while seeing some negatives on the International board and indications on the Tucson board that just as much could happen in strip clubs there, but I don't know that I could count on it as a first-time visitor.Bingo.
So the Report of Distinction gives a lot of information. I'm thinking of going Sunday early evening with Placers as my main destination; any comments on that? What about where to have dinner: north or south of the border?Food comes to mind immediately. Come to think about it, I think I just figured out why...
North of the border:
If the reader is unadventurous with regards to eating or food--Stay in the USA! McDonald's and a few of the other American chains on the USA side. Nothing at all comes to mind as anything other than servicable in my wanderings around town.

South of the border:
There are several very good restaurants within a three block area of the pedestrian entry point at the border crossing. There is a good restaurant across from Olivia Hotel. I can also recommend the pizza at Granada Hotel. If you are feeling like absorbing some culture, the street food has always served me well in Nogi. If you have a date when the bars close, ask her if she wants to get some food before going to the hotel. Chances are if she has been working for 6 hours, that would be a good move for you. Get a taxi for both of you and go anywhere she tells the driver to go--within reason.Placers can be a gold mine! Damn. I just figured out why they named it that. Fuckin A!
N'joy,
LL

Lovejugs
10-05-07, 00:19
Hello all. After much proding by Scorpio and LoveLos I am posting for the first time. I am honestly a laid back smoker and never was into bragging. It's just my personality. I started by dating strippers in the mid 90's. Then got into the "stroll" and the "Bar with no name". Now Scorpio has started to show me the way of the AMP. I am loving it. My first experience was at Supra on gay pride day in DC. I am not gonna lie, was a little nervous never being with a woman of this ethnicity. I always had the fetish. I honestly never asked her name. Really didn't care, but Scorpio said it was rude not to. She was very cute. About 5' 6", maybe 110 soaking wet. A definite spinner. I tend to go for very voluptous black girls so this was a new experience. Scorpio and I talked later about how cute it was that they had a kinda uniform. Started with a nice warm table shower. Now real contact down below. I think the language barrier was the main problem. Then moved to the room for a dry massage. A little amateur, but was still into it. I almost fell asleep. She had A-cups with nice 1/2" nips. A flat stomach with a small round ass. She dragged her nipples up and down my body which really felt good on my cock. After about 10 minutes she asked me what I wanted. I want everything I said. She started with a brief CBJ which was nice, but like I said too brief. First she got on top, but the mattress was so thin her knees began to hurt. She then gestured for me to walk the dog. I had made a point to clean the pipes before I went. I was afraid that I would lose control way too quick because of my asian fetish. I had the opposite problem. I was walking the dog for a long time and my cock was started to get numb from slamming so hard and long. She was noticeably not enjoying the pain and dried up. Not good. She used some "Wet" to lube up. Again with the dog. I was starting to lose interest. She then did the kiss of death. Screaming "Finish. Finish. Finish. " A real buzz kill. I was kinda getting pissed so I said "Get on your back (knowing I can make myself finish better this way. I went to grab her lube and she said "No! " and grabbed it out of my hand. I am sure the mamasan charges her a high rate for a $2 tube. Now I was even more pissed. So I had to psych myself up imagining that I am making her do something she doesn't want to do. This turned me on that I was giving her discomfort. And then it happened. She started to get wet. Maybe it was my technique. But she started to push back with her kitty. Getting closer. I noticed her eyes were closed cause she didn't want too look at me I guess. Turned me on even more that she was in shame. Then I felt that familiar felling and erupted like a volcano. Left it inside of her for at least a minute after to bask in the afterglow. A little disappointing for my first AMP, but I knew there would be more to come. So I was in good spirits. Scorpio and I proceeded to get mashed on a beer/smoke crawl for the next eight hours. Next adventure will be "Scorpio and Lovejugs Strike back" on a trip we took in August. Very Nice.

LoveLOS
10-20-07, 17:43
Damn jugs. Great fucking report, graphic and alive, good writing. More readable than Scorps. :) And I can see that Scorp has been having you study from the best. ;) Now, if you get the chance, copy your report and repost it to DC Massage (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3841).

107...

LL

Ben Marine
10-23-07, 15:25
Hey levelos,

I am wanting to take a trip to nogi and do not know where to start. I read some of what you have on here but not enough info. I want to see atleast decent girls but not have to give up my pay check doing it. Can you give me some good spots to hit I'm looking for fs and some directions or maybe some pics of spots let me know thanks.

LoveLOS
10-25-07, 23:41
Hey levelos,

I am wanting to take a trip to nogi and do not know where to start. I read some of what you have on here but not enough info. I want to see atleast decent girls but not have to give up my pay check doing it. Can you give me some good spots to hit I'm looking for fs and some directions or maybe some pics of spots let me know thanks.I have already done all you ask and more. I ain't going to type it again because you are too damn lazy to read thru seven pages of reports! The way this forum works, is that we exchange info. That means you read the forum, which is really just a SEARCH-ABLE knowledge base , learn the tricks, hit the trenches, learn from that and report your experiences back to the forum to increase the knowledge base further. Your posting history includes four pleas for help in five posts... Time to contribute.

Read this first

Then go here and read forward starting at the bottom of each page until you get back to this report. Then, go over to ISG and repeat the process (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=445). I posted a lot of pics of a lot of girls--virtually all of them are at least decent, some are model material. I found none of them who do not want some part of your paycheck for the privilege of fucking them--so the answer depends on the amount of your paycheck you are willing to part with to get what you want.

Spend the several hours it might take. After you have done that, you will have a solid understanding of how, where, who and when Nogi works, for how much and for whom. If you have a point of confusion about something, please ask with wisdom and you will receive a warmer and more complete answer.

LoveLOS

Benchseats Rock
10-26-07, 00:31
I have already done all you ask and more. I ain't going to type it again because you are too damn lazy to read thru seven pages of reports! The way this forum works, is that we exchange info. That means you read the forum, which is really just a SEARCH-ABLE knowledge base , learn the tricks, hit the trenches, learn from that and report your experiences back to the forum to increase the knowledge base further. Your posting history includes four pleas for help in five posts... Time to contribute.

Read this first

Then go here and read forward starting at the bottom of each page until you get back to this report. Then, go over to ISG and repeat the process (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=445). I posted a lot of pics of a lot of girls--virtually all of them are at least decent, some are model material. I found none of them who do not want some part of your paycheck for the privilege of fucking them--so the answer depends on the amount of your paycheck you are willing to part with to get what you want.

Spend the several hours it might take. After you have done that, you will have a solid understanding of how, where, who and when Nogi works, for how much and for whom. If you have a point of confusion about something, please ask with wisdom and you will receive a warmer and more complete answer.

LoveLOS


Damn you're nice...

I would have linked to these and let him suffer a little.

LoveLOS on how to RTFF
Bench Seats Rock on using Google

Then again, I suppose reading all your exploits and knowing he'll never come close to having as good of an experience may just be the medicine he needs.


Benchseats Rock

Sexhobbyist
10-29-07, 11:13
I'm planning a trip to Nogie this Friday and/or Saturday evenings. I'm familiar with the clubs and protocol so I'm just scouting the area prior to the arrival of LoveLOS and Company—I have to sample/ravage them first. And, having become TOO familiar with the Tucson strip clubs, I'm looking for a change of scenery and to see if Nogie has anything left to offer the dedicated monger that Tucson doesn't have. If there is anyone who would like to meet up, then PM me.
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
10-30-07, 03:14
I'm just scouting the area prior to the arrival of LoveLOS and Company—I have to sample/ravage them first.
...clip...
If there is anyone who would like to meet up, then PM me.
Sexhobbyist
AAAAaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Have fun, but stay away from the spinners, you give them sore pussy...

98,
LL

Sexhobbyist
11-04-07, 14:12
I drove to Nogales, had the first fast food in more than a decade at the Burger King, parked, and walked to the border where I met up with senior member AZrobert—a Nogales veteran. We crossed the border and walked to Boleros where the evening officially began.

The $20 experience.
I've ranted in previous posts about the business/economic model used by the clubs in Nogales and espoused that they have priced themselves out of the market as far as Tucson customers are concerned. This adventure solidified my beliefs.

For $20 in a Tucson club you can get the three or four highly effective table dances with good mileage or one or two VIP dances where hj and/or bj are included. Yes, for $20 in a Tucson club you can get a bbbj. At the very least, you'll have a dance or two to see if the future foretells a happy ending. You can spend the time enjoying the experience without the "hard sell" to spend money on other services. You can let the dancer take the initiative and, depending on her attitude, allow her to put you into your own universe as she plays with your equipment. All for 20 bucks. If you want to tip extra, it's appreciated by the dancers.

$20 in a Nogales club buys you....(wait for it)....nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The minimum price to play south of the border is $23 (plus tips). What does $23 buy you? It gets you six minutes in a small room—often described as closets although they've become somewhat bigger and more accommodating—where the dancer will grind your crotch and you can grope her t&a. That's it. No hj. No bj. ("That's biiiiig money, señor.") The hj, included in the price of the dance in a Tucson club, is $100 in Nogales. The bj is $130. The going rate for full service is $180. Are you beginning to see why the Tucson mongers stay close to home?

Sidebar: This leads me to another rant, but I'm controlling myself. Nevertheless, I'll mention to the uninitiated that prices in Nogales are somewhat negotiable every day of the week except Friday and Saturday. Since we were there on a Saturday, there wasn't much "give and take" when it came to prices—just a few dollars discounted. So, one has to resort to subterfuge to get what one wants as you'll see later in this report.

Back to the report: So, you can't take your dick out of your pants, you can't have a fulfilling experience, and you can't expect extras without paying extra. Worst of all, you are subjecting yourself to six minutes of upcharging to get you to purchase the bj or fs. It's a mood killer and a waste of your $23 (plus tips). Oh, one more thing...did I mention that everyone has their hands in your pocket for tips? There's the cover charge guy, the waiter, the floor pimp who sells you your dance ticket, the guy who admits you to the private rooms, and the dancer. Oh, yeah, and the parasite tout who runs after you to "escort" you to the club. Before long, your $23 dance is now costing about $30-$35, depending on the worthiness of your dancer and you don't get didley other than a grind and groping.

My Nogales club methodology is to sit and wait for some sweet thing to plant herself in my lap. If she begins to play with the equipment, then I'll buy her a chica drink ($10-12 each depending on the club—$4-6 in Tucson clubs for dancer drinks) to encourage her to continue and to give me time to see if she's a worthy dancer. While she's playing with my dick, I'll be checking her out with my hands and giving her some tests to see if she flinches. If she passes the tests, I'll buy a private dance just so I can get the grind and grope the t&a. If the dancer sits in my lap and expects to be treated as a queen just because she's eye candy and she doesn't have the initiative to take charge of the arousal treatment, then I'll pass on the drinks and dance.

AZrobert and I visited four clubs—Boleros, Placers, Club 69 (formerly Lipsticks), and Candy Club (formerly Obsessions). I had great dancer experiences all night long with one exception in Boleros where I lustily went after a beauty with no talent when I saw her on stage for the "cattle call" instead of trying her out first.

Boleros
A nice selection of attractive women. Too many, too little time. I saw a cute little spinner (sorry LoveLOS, but I couldn't resist) and sent the floor pimp after her to fetch her to me. She planted herself in my lap and made it known that she knew what to do. Her name was Deanna and was all of 4'11" with all natural, perky, full DDs with puffy nipples, a latina bubble butt and all on a small frame. She was cute as hell with a pretty face and hair. She was the nicest spinner I've ever seen in Nogales and that's saying alot for those familiar with my previous posts. I took her for a private dance just so I could explore that glorious body. I wasn't disappointed with her attitude or technique. Alas, I turned down sex because I knew I only had one eruption left in me for the day and I didn't want to give it up on my first dancer of the night. LL, this is a MUST see when you visit. And I didn't spoil her, although I wish I had.

Meanwhile, AZrobert found his "girl of the night" and headed off for entertainment to the private rooms. Before leaving, I could see that she certainly had the right attitude.

Placers
AZrobert wanted to head to Placers to see a dancer he had met the previous weekend. He found her and went off to do his thing in the private room. I found my new atf chica, Alexia (Sheila has retired, again, alas). She's a tall, sculpted and toned very feminine hardbody. It might very well be the nicest body I've ever seen in Nogales. She is from Tijuana and is halfway through a two-month visit to Placers (same owner as her TJ home club). She hates Nogales and can't wait to leave. I told her that with her body and looks, she'd make a fortune in the US. We discussed possible arrangements for her coming to Tucson. I think AZrobert agrees that she'd be a huge moneymaker in the states and a welcome houseguest for any guy.

Note to reader: The rest of the evening's description is going to sound a bit self-serving. I know it and I know what you think of it, but it accurately describes the activities and how I'm able to get what I want in almost any strip club.



I took Alexia upstairs for a private dance. All the while I was thinking that this is the one I'd be creaming with my last ejaculation of the day. What a surprise I had when that didn't happen exactly like I expected. I bought one private dance to get warmed up with her and to make sure she was "the one!" It was my intention to get the full service room if the private dance worked out. Well, it worked out, but not the way I thought it would. She knew exactly how to use that body of hers to get me excited. The thing is, once I got excited, she began playing with my dick (still in my pants at this point) and she became excited. As she played with my dick, she was making sounds to indicate that she was getting turned on and her body temp was rising. She stuck my finger in her mouth to moisten it then guided it to her pussy and rubbed my finger against her pussy until it slipped into the juicy interior. Now she was losing control and my dance time was up. I hurriedly bought another private dance because I didn't want to lose the moment. She went right back to her position and we resumed our heavenly exploration. She unzipped my pants (this is a no-no in this club) and brought out the weaponry and began full-fledged dick worshipping. She was very excited and she straddled me, cradled my dick in her two hands and began sliding her pussy up and down the shaft. Now the time was up again. She yelled at the guy to leave her alone. We were now into our third private session and she was using my dick to get herself off. She kept sliding her pussy up and down the shaft of my dick while holding it against her with her two hands until she exploded in climax and collapsed in my chest. I could feel her juices flowing around my exposed dick and leaving my pants wet. She took a minute to compose herself then replaced my dick in my pants. Now I wanted to fuck her more than ever, but I could she that she was exhausted. I never stuck my dick in her and I never came, but it was one of the greatest private dances I've ever had. That body, the emotions, the chemistry, the attitude all came together in the perfect moment for a non-full service encounter. The proof that it was good for her was, when I was leaving, the gatekeeper asked for the fee for the third session (and a tip, naturally) and she told him that she'd take care of it and indicated to me to put my wallet away. We exchanged contact info. I hope I see her again because she's a keeper.

Club 69 (Lipsticks)
AZrobert didn't have as good an experience at Placers so we left and headed to Club 69, the old Lipsticks. It's had a major, expensive remodeling. I have to admit, the place is amazing. Not like the old Lipsticks at all. When we walked in the door the first dancer I saw was the long-time Nogales diva, Monserrat. For those that don't know Monserrat, she is the quintessential Latina with the gorgeous figure, all natural 44-46Fs, juicy butt, long black hair, dark eyes, full lips, and a "come fuck me" attitude. AZrobert knows her and has history with her. I've known her since about 1993-94, I think. She's worked at various clubs over the years, but was the mainstay at Lipsticks until Rios opened then she became the diva of that establishment until it closed. Seeing Monserrat was like a homecoming for me and she made herself at home with the two of us and caught up on old times. She planted herself in my lap and immediately began playing with me while carrying on a conversation with the two of us. Still worked up and dazed from my previous encounter at Placers, it didn't take me long to know that Monserrat was going to be the recipient of my jiz tonight. I didn't want to pay full price for sex. I didn't even want to pay for a hj or bj. So, when she and I got to the check-in counter (that's the only way to describe it) for the privates I told them I wanted three privates. They quoted me $75. I said I'd do three for $60 and they agreed. (Shock!) Once we got into the room, Monserrat knew exactly what to do. She now recognized my dick and remembered what we used to do. She began giving me a bbbj. I told her that I'd take care of her if she wanted to do what we used to do for old time's sake. She did. We traded places and she sat in the chair while I stood over her and she took my dick in her mouth. I grabbed her head and began a gagging, slobbering, fuck-me-to-tears, full-force face fucking. Her tits were jiggling all over the place, one hand was rubbing her clit and her other hand was on my hip. It was a Mexican skull fuck the likes of which I hadn't experienced in years. I exploded in her mouth, just like the old days, and she swallowed and sucked/licked me clean. She required some makeup repair and we straightened ourselves up and went back to our seat in the club. I ended up buying her six chica drinks as her payment while she sat in my lap and let me play with her tits and ass. It was amazing. I'm still recovering from it.

Candy Club (Obsessions)
Even after the Monserrat episode, AZrobert and I went to Obsessions. I needed to deliver greetings to a couple of dancers from a friend so we headed over the tracks. The dancers I was looking for weren't working (I asked...sorry LL), but the ever-present Abe was. Abe is the floor pimp/manager who grates on me. This night, however, he behaved himself. Two honeys were escorted to our laps. Mine was Ouki, a Japanese-Mexican (Abe said she was Chinese), a petite slim attractive Asian. I'm not into Asian women, but this one had a nice personality and was already working on getting me aroused so I kept her and bought her a chica drink. Even though I was still recovering, she was successful in reviving Mr. Happy so we went back to the private booths for a dance. This girl was so slim (not in a bad, anorexic way, just genetically and proportionally tiny in an Asian way) that I couldn't help thinking that if I stuck my dick in her she'd split in two. We did the bump and grind and groping and she kept exclaiming about the size of my dick. After the dance I went back to my seat. She went and had a conversation with her friend and I could see from her gestures that she was telling her friend about the size of my dick. The next thing I know her friend, Sierra Marie, another petite Latina, was sitting in my lap and groping my dick. She showed off my dick to her friends who also stroked it. By now this was becoming a scene and embarrassing. But, my dick is how I usually get what I want in a club—US or Mexican—so I let it happen. I took this little dancer back for a private and she went to town on it (still in my pants) and I let my hands roam all over her cute little body. I knew there wasn't going to be another happy ending tonight, but I couldn't help being attracted to this girl.

AZrobert was having his own good fortune with a very pretty sweet young thing that I'm sure he'll be writing about. I think he might be back to see her again. I have to admit that I was also attracted to her and I never had her sitting in my lap.

AZrobert had to leave but I stayed and had a few more private sessions with Sierra Marie. During what was to be my last dance, I pulled my dick out and she went ballistic and made me put it back. That was when I knew that she wasn't going any further with me unless I paid for it. I didn't get my way with this one. I left and returned to the states.

It was a memorable evening. It was great meeting AZrobert. I found some great chicas to party with on my next visit and an old favorite that I'll be back to see again.

But, it was a more expensive adventure and less fulfilling than a Tucson experience. That's the bottom line.
Sexhobbyist

Azrobert
11-04-07, 17:03
I can think of nothing that was left out.

It was great to meet SH, certainly a good guy and I look forward to visiting the clubs with him again. Nogales has completely priced themselves out of the market for the weekly trips I used to make years ago. I is however a great place and always a fun time. For those of us in Phx. it is a great escape from a town with not many options. If you have never been I highly recommend going (just bring lots of money and you will have a great time).
I will have to try the clubs in Tucson one of these days.

A few years ago I decided I did not like Obsessions and have not visited it in a long time, with the new management I have to change that opinion, if I wasn't on beer number 8? Or was it 9, I probably would have enjoyed it a lot more than I did.

I would have to say that the quality of girls in Nogales has vastly improved; the only problem is that they know it!

LoveLOS
11-05-07, 01:50
My friend SH,

Thank you for attempting the hookup. As much as I hate to do so, I will have to find either Luis or, God forbid, Abe to make a few calls for me.

Your Ouki would not, by chance, be my Superbowl queen (Ieuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36617), or maybe my ten (Yuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36890)?

I think there is one approach you are using to poor advantage in Nogi, and obviously employed because of your successful use in Tucson--Privados. I have to agree with the $20 analogy, and the relatively low mileage in Nogi. Privados are a very high priced tease.

I noted with interest some truly excellent reports on the International board (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=607436&postcount=943) where the guy spent an absolute fortune for like six bjs and the thrill of giving some facials. YMMV, but that is not my shot of tequila.

The $180 experience...
My approach is tactically similar on the main floor. Find a girl who wants to party! If she wants to have a good time, let the good times roll. It usually takes a ladies drink, maybe two to make sure the chemistry is right. If a girl can't make LoveLOS want to fuck her in 20 minutes, she is either not his type at all, or she simply isn't trying hard enough. At that point I make a decision. Send her on her way - or off to the races. I don't fuck around with a privado to see if you want it. Fuck that--do like you did in 69 every time... Get enough dances to finish, or better yet, get a room.

Here is the rationale:
1. You want sex, good sex.
2. She wants to sell sex, and usually that requres her to upsell--a buzz kill for both parties.
The Solution: Buy the sex and get past the bullshit while everybody is in the party mood and nobody is put off by tedious negotiations. If you can keep her in the party mood, you will have a hell of a time!

A couple things I do when I am familiar with a bar that helps:
1. I negotiate the price I want to pay for a girl with the pimp guy before I meet any girls. If the girl won't play in my room for that money, I don't want her brought over. There is never any haggling with the girl, just a nod of the head that I'm ready to take her out.
2.I also make sure the pimps know that milking me for ladies drinks is a good way to get me to leave.

In the past three years (wherein I took nearly 30 women well over 40 times), I think I took only about six or seven privados and only twice that they did not result in ejaculation.

My take is that the $180 experience is very similar to the $180 experience in the USA--albeit your little empire that is Tucson strip clubs makes mockery of anything Nogales. I guess too it would be a bit below the belt to consider the cost of building the aforementioned empire makes your calculations even out a bit in the long haul.

Last year's trip was hard to beat in terms of sheer debauchery, and it is my goal to make each year a bit more outrageous. I believe the only way to do this is spend a good amount of time in Tucson VIP rooms tearing thru SH's harem. Then dragging him, kicking and screaming, back to Nogi for some serious, LL-style partying, (and probably even letting SH tear thru some of my harem). :D

Oh yes, I know you were down to one shot so you wanted it to be just right... Shame on you. I know you are good for three shots a night--so I bet you were using some ammo on the USA side... Tsk tsk.

Great report, I look forward to living it.

92 days... --I feel kinda like the Colts tonight--it's a long fourth quarter...
LL

Chica Luv
11-05-07, 20:15
SH,

Thanks for the open invitation to joint you'all in Nogi. Circumstances prevailed against me.

After hearing about the prices etc, it only makes me appreciate Agua Prieta even more. Where $60.00 will get you a room and the girl of your choice.

Thanks again for the invitation and the great follow up report

Kirstyforme
11-06-07, 11:48
Great trip report SH! I'm really bummed I couldn't join you down south. I had hoped to make it but every time I found a way to leave the house fortune turned against me...

Sounds like you still know how to monger even out of Tucson. Maybe a bit pricier but I'd still like the experience just so I'm not so green. I look forward to LL's visit next year when he brings his famed Nogi tour back.

Welcome home!

K4me

Sexhobbyist
11-07-07, 16:56
My recent trip to Nogales cost me:
$275 for private dances
$55 dancer tips
$135 dancer drinks
$14 my drinks
$13 cover charges
$25 various tips
TOTAL: $517

Add to the total $30 gasoline and 2 1/2 hours commute.

All that money and I never got laid. Yes, I had some terrific experiences, but my dick never penetrated pussy. If it wasn't for the face fuck from Monserrat, I'd have nothing to show for the trip except a dancer's phone number. (Sigh).

My cost-per-climax was $517+.

For the same amount of money I could have stayed in Tucson, had fun with several dancers including fs from two or three of them, and saved myself the gasoline and commute. My cost-per-climax would have been about $175 x 3 climaxes (that includes actually getting laid a couple of times! Throw in a bj, and it's a good night for any monger at that total package price.).

The $180 full-service experience in Nogales does not cost $180. It costs about $230+ by the time you figure cover charges, tips, gasoline, and drinks. Cost-per-climax = $230.

Here's the difference. In Tucson, the dancer is in charge of deciding full service. In Nogales, the customer is in charge of deciding full service. In Tucson, it takes some money and initiative to find the sex partner. For some, the chase and the unknown is part of the excitement and worth the fun and dollars.

In Nogales, there is no question that you're going to get laid by whoever you pick. For that privilege, though, you pay the premium. And knowing you're getting laid by whoever you pick takes some of the challenge out of it for some of us (I've heard it described as "lazy man's mongering.")

The Tucson dancer is fucking you because she wants to (it's her choice). The Nogales chica is fucking you because she has to (because you picked her). My mongering philosophy is: I prefer women fuck me because they want to. So I play in Tucson. More so now that gasoline prices are going up again.

Sexhobbyist

Sexhobbyist
11-07-07, 17:18
The Ouki (spelling?) I found is not the same as the two in your pics. Mine is very Asian with no Latin blood in her. It was so strange seeing such an obvious Asian speaking Spanish. My Ouki is thinner than the ones in your pics mine has features that are more Asian.

I understand the waste that is the privados. For me, they are fun just to see how far the dancer goes once she sees what she's working with. I've been able to use that technique to my advantage many times in Nogales clubs in the past and, of course, US clubs regularly. I use them to find out if the dancer is going to be turned on or turned off by the equipment at her disposal before finding out after I've paid big money that she's not able to handle me.

Skipping the privados completely is an option. Just go from lap sitting/playing to the sex room. My problem with that is that on more than one occassion I've gotten to the sex room only to find out that the girl has restrictions or isn't interested in various techniques or won't perform. The privados help alleviate some of the anxiety of the dancer and help me determine who has the right attitude. Poor AZrobert got a dancer who was doing all the right things while sitting in his lap, but once she was in the privado, she was an ice queen with a "don't touch" policy. I'd hate to see what would of happened if he went straight from the lap-sitting and drink to full service only to have her cop an attitude like that. Privados have their purpose and I use them for intelligence gathering and for "envelope pushing."

I'm of the mentality that I have to find the girl first before buying the sex ticket. I don't want to buy the sex ticket only to not find the right chica and have to use up the ticket on a lesser choice.

Obviously, there are several ways to approach the Nogales club scene. The best method is the one that works best for the individual monger. But, there is no such thing as $180 full service in Nogales. See my next post.
Sexhobbyist


My friend SH,

Thank you for attempting the hookup. As much as I hate to do so, I will have to find either Luis or, God forbid, Abe to make a few calls for me.

Your Ouki would not, by chance, be my Superbowl queen (Ieuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36617), or maybe my ten (Yuki) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36890)?

I think there is one approach you are using to poor advantage in Nogi, and obviously employed because of your successful use in Tucson--Privados. I have to agree with the $20 analogy, and the relatively low mileage in Nogi. Privados are a very high priced tease.

I noted with interest some truly excellent reports on the International board (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=607436&postcount=943) where the guy spent an absolute fortune for like six bjs and the thrill of giving some facials. YMMV, but that is not my shot of tequila.

The $180 experience...
My approach is tactically similar on the main floor. Find a girl who wants to party! If she wants to have a good time, let the good times roll. It usually takes a ladies drink, maybe two to make sure the chemistry is right. If a girl can't make LoveLOS want to fuck her in 20 minutes, she is either not his type at all, or she simply isn't trying hard enough. At that point I make a decision. Send her on her way - or off to the races. I don't fuck around with a privado to see if you want it. Fuck that--do like you did in 69 every time... Get enough dances to finish, or better yet, get a room.

Here is the rationale:
1. You want sex, good sex.
2. She wants to sell sex, and usually that requres her to upsell--a buzz kill for both parties.
The Solution: Buy the sex and get past the bullshit while everybody is in the party mood and nobody is put off by tedious negotiations. If you can keep her in the party mood, you will have a hell of a time!

A couple things I do when I am familiar with a bar that helps:
1. I negotiate the price I want to pay for a girl with the pimp guy before I meet any girls. If the girl won't play in my room for that money, I don't want her brought over. There is never any haggling with the girl, just a nod of the head that I'm ready to take her out.
2.I also make sure the pimps know that milking me for ladies drinks is a good way to get me to leave.

In the past three years (wherein I took nearly 30 women well over 40 times), I think I took only about six or seven privados and only twice that they did not result in ejaculation.

My take is that the $180 experience is very similar to the $180 experience in the USA--albeit your little empire that is Tucson strip clubs makes mockery of anything Nogales. I guess too it would be a bit below the belt to consider the cost of building the aforementioned empire makes your calculations even out a bit in the long haul.

Last year's trip was hard to beat in terms of sheer debauchery, and it is my goal to make each year a bit more outrageous. I believe the only way to do this is spend a good amount of time in Tucson VIP rooms tearing thru SH's harem. Then dragging him, kicking and screaming, back to Nogi for some serious, LL-style partying, (and probably even letting SH tear thru some of my harem). :D

Oh yes, I know you were down to one shot so you wanted it to be just right... Shame on you. I know you are good for three shots a night--so I bet you were using some ammo on the USA side... Tsk tsk.

Great report, I look forward to living it.

92 days... --I feel kinda like the Colts tonight--it's a long fourth quarter...
LL

Sexhobbyist
11-07-07, 17:20
My friend SH,

Last year's trip was hard to beat in terms of sheer debauchery, and it is my goal to make each year a bit more outrageous. I believe the only way to do this is spend a good amount of time in Tucson VIP rooms tearing thru SH's harem. Then dragging him, kicking and screaming, back to Nogi for some serious, LL-style partying, (and probably even letting SH tear thru some of my harem). :D

LL

I'm happy to share my harem with such an esteemed colleague. As a matter of fact, I'll introduce you to them individually. I do so willingly because you know I'll be ripping through your private stock when I come to your neighborhood next August. :D
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
11-08-07, 01:24
But, there is no such thing as $180 full service in Nogales. The only statement I cannot agree with... Your math is excellent, and I have to agree with the $230 being an actual cost for a $180 fuck.

OTOH, a little walk on the wild side will get you $100 F/S in Nogi, many of which are dancers on their day off. The lower price reflects the fact they aren't paying half the money back to the bar. These can be accessed easily thru a reliable tout or taxi driver. Add $20 for the hotel, the tout takes his $20 from the girl, at least that is how Luis does it for me.

I guess part of the differences in our mongering style is the fact that of too many years of no-service teasing in USA strip clubs. I hate being teased and hoping the girl is going to decide to get playful. Hell, I'm already married, I get enough of a woman deciding when I can fuck her. I like it the other way around! ...and for some reason, I seem to be able to pick the party girls. I rarely miss--and the part about being lazy... I represent that remark!

There is no doubt in my fuzzy little brain that we will each gain greater appreciation for both of these mongering venues, and for how we each play the game. And maybe we'll recruit Ed for another tour to AP....

K4M, others, looking forward to it!!

LL

Sexhobbyist
11-08-07, 12:14
The only statement I cannot agree with... Your math is excellent, and I have to agree with the $230 being an actual cost for a $180 fuck.

OTOH, a little walk on the wild side will get you $100 F/S in Nogi, many of which are dancers on their day off. The lower price reflects the fact they aren't paying half the money back to the bar. These can be accessed easily thru a reliable tout or taxi driver. Add $20 for the hotel, the tout takes his $20 from the girl, at least that is how Luis does it for me.

I guess part of the differences in our mongering style is the fact that of too many years of no-service teasing in USA strip clubs. I hate being teased and hoping the girl is going to decide to get playful. Hell, I'm already married, I get enough of a woman deciding when I can fuck her. I like it the other way around! ...and for some reason, I seem to be able to pick the party girls. I rarely miss--and the part about being lazy... I represent that remark!

There is no doubt in my fuzzy little brain that we will each gain greater appreciation for both of these mongering venues, and for how we each play the game.

LL

I appreciate your insight and, yes, different styles for different mongers. Whatever works best.

The "lazy" part wasn't meant to cast aspersions. I heard it in Nogales the other night and thought it was appropo to my discussion. We can't be mongers without a little laziness in each of us.

If you pick the party girls for me, I'll spoil them for you...how's that for a deal?!

Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
11-09-07, 00:27
If you pick the party girls for me, I'll spoil them for you...how's that for a deal?!

SexhobbyistI consider that a done deal, and I promise an amazing experience. except when on your home turf, I humbly request you pick the party girls... ;)

I realized over the past few nights of reminiscing over my adventures as reported on these pages that, out there somewhere, and possibly even reading these words, is an inspired songwriter, or a rock and roll monger...

HINDER LYRICS

"Room 21"

She said nice to meet you
But she didn't tell me her name
With red lipstick and pale pink boots
This b1tch just blew me away
Cocktails later
She said to me
Don't be late
And heres my key
Wanna know what happened next
Take a wild guess
I stumbled up the stairs
To room 21

I walked in and saw her on the bed
There was nothing to be said
When we were done
She said she loved the taste of my oh oh oh
When I came to the next morning
There were cigarettes put out on the floor
Her panties hanging from the doorknob
She left me craving more
I swear to God you'd feel the same
If you got used by what's her name
Wanna know what happened next
Well take a wild guess
I stumbled out the door
Of room 21

I walked out with her in my head
Cant remember a damn thing she said
Except when we were done
She said she loved the taste of my oh oh
She said nice to meet you
I never forget a face
Here we go again
I cant wait
I'm gonna get used by whats her fucking name
Wanna know what happened next
Well take a guess
I stumbled out of the door
Of room 21

I walked out with her in my head
Cant remember a damn thing she said
Stumbling out the door
Of room 21
(Here we go again)
Room 21
(Here we go again)
Room 21
(Here we go again)
Room 21
(Here we go again)

Call me crazy, but how many mongers are familiar with the room numbering system at the Poncho Villa hotel? The bottom line is this, SH, re-read the lyrics, or listen to the song. Then imagine yourself in a Nogales hotel room with two or three hot little chicas that appreciate a party, enjoy fucking fun guys (or fake it well) and are the top of the crop as far as looks. You have been there--me too.
...
Here we go again
I cant wait
I'm gonna get used by whats her fucking name!
...

I just want to be there again... 88...

LoveLOS

TylerPerelli
12-18-07, 03:48
SH and LoveLOS...you guys are legends!

After a hiatus, I am returning to the forum.

I found my first monger report ever, so I thought I'd share:

This is my first report ever. Saved it to an e-mail. Not certain what forum I originally posted in:

By Tylerperelli on Friday, November 28, 2003. 04:12 pm: Edit

This sight has proved very interesting. My "guide" recommended it to me after seeing some Nogales regulars during one of our stops.

Some guys were expressing their disappointment in being unable to rent a Cadillac on the weekend the auto races were in PHX. One had intended on celebrating his b-day in Nogales.

Having been there once briefly during the day and buying some jewelry and watching my acquaintance pick up some items, I asked what the big deal was.

Now I know! Strip clubs with attractive women who let you grab ass and let both their and your hands roam during lappies. Hummers and screws available in private rooms if you desire. Nice!

Still apprehensive about being a gringo crossing the border after hearing many horror stories, I was glad they recommended a website dedicated to strip club mongers. Ladies of nogales.

Ben called my cell after an e-mail and I felt comfortable knowing I would have someone who knew the scene showing me the clubs. In my book, the tour was well worth the price for piece of mind. We also never paid a cover and had top level service at the clubs.

Parking across from BK, we walked across and headed to Boliero. A local hassled us the whole way even though we new where we were headed. A couple average girls provided adequate lappies, and a waitress caught my eye. She looked new and knowing the waitresses have less milage, I was intrigued. The host/waiter called her over, yet I told her no for the moment, wanting to bide my time.

We headed to Lord Black, snagging a couple great asada tacos en route. We passed Placers and he pointed out Fernis. No need to go another street into town IMHO. Still being overly cautious.

A couple girls at LB caught my attention, and I rec'd a lap dance that had my soldier come to attention. All worked up I wanted to go back to Boliero and tap the waitress. We get back and someone has her already. Not just in the private room, but the VIP area. Damn!

A freaking "10" wearing a green outfit is onstage so I try to hail the waiter to get her. Again someone beat me to it and was off to the VIP with her.

Rushed, I ended up going for a private with Johana? Knowing I take a while, I think I got three tickets. She gave me a nice lap dance, slipped on a jimmy and gave some great head. This was for $30, and got her down to an additional $20 for a screw, telling her I still wished to finish in her mouth. She road me and then switched up and let me pound her from behind. Pumped for all I was worth, then told her to finish with more head. Had to buy more time and get a second condom. Got my nut as they were asking for more time.

Headed to Obsession and felt a rekindling in the loins. A young hottie with nice, real breasts was working me for a private. Knowing I had nutted, taken some pick-me-ups on the drive down, and had a couple mixed drinks, I hesitated.

Going for it, she proceeded to give me a great show. Head intermixed with dry hump lap dancing. Wish I had the bucks and time to screw her proper. Had to get extra time as I was stiff, yet couldn't nut.

Walked out and who is sitting there. My friends who started me on the whole idea of trying this. The asked if I had fun and and I grabbed my girl (who had gained the interest of everyone seated near them). She proceeded to tell them that the gringo had mucho grande package. Always nice to hear that you're well endowed for a white boy. Guess she enjoyed herself.

After an excellent sonoran hot dog, it was time to hit the road for the return trip to PHX.

Anxious to return, I hope to find some other strip club conissuers to hang with.

LoveLOS
12-22-07, 01:36
SH and LoveLOS...you guys are legends!SH is the legend (well, his tool is anyway, or so he says) I'm just a pig who can't say no to a hot chica. Or a hot Asian. or Black, blond, redhead or brunette. What can I say, I just like to FUCK?

I will publish my dates in Mexico when closer to the appropriate time. I'm good with an out-of-this-country party...

LL

Sexhobbyist
12-23-07, 11:01
SH is the legend (well, his tool is anyway, or so he says) I'm just a pig who can't say no to a hot chica. Or a hot Asian. or Black, blond, redhead or brunette. What can I say, I just like to FUCK?
LL

A legend in my own mind. Ditto the hot chica, Asian, black, blond, redhead, or brunette. In my case, all they have to be is upright and breathing.

Sexhobbyist is thinking about doing Nogales once more before 2007 ends. I'm still in search of the perfect Nogie fs experience for less than the price of fs in Tucson. I'm thinking of going on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday (12/27, 12/28, or 12/29). PM me if any mongers want to meet up for a night on the town. Once I hear, I'll decide which night to go based on the responses.
Sexhobbyist

LoveLOS
02-03-08, 04:11
Anybody who wants to party in Nogi. LMK

LoveLOS
02-09-08, 01:16
Nogi News:
Lord Black and Placers are closed. Placers is being remodelled, and will be renamed Lord Black, so don't be confused by future reports where Lord Black is the shit again--But that will be next year.

Lust seems a good place to visit. Prices are reasonable. Several hotties to be found. Their solution to a bedroom fuck is to send you with the girl to the massage parlor and use the massage room to fuck in. That is an interesting concept--wonder if that goes on elsewhere?


LL Day starts tonight. I will be there until 3am, when I will be taking Cytraly back to my hotel for toda la noche. If you are in OBS, I will be the tall gringo that acts like he owns the place, hottest girls, and of course, Abe is nearby or sitting beside me. If in Bolerios, I will be the guy in the company of Cytrali, Babydoll, or another uber hottie. Fat chicas don't get to sit.

While I am partying whether anybody is with me or not, I do like company. I would suggest that Saturday nite be a great time for a RT like event.

PM Me
LoveLOS

LoveLOS
02-10-08, 09:09
I am starting to save up for next year tonight.So my good friend, do you need to update your lame excuse for living vicariously when you were supposedly saving your shekels all year long and living the dream with me this year?

Nobody listens to LL. Or nobody believes LL. Not sure, but I am gathering a group of witnesses that can vouch that, while I am probably full of shit, this stuff really happens. On second thought, I make this up.

BSR, I sent you the pic of third girl the other night that made me pop in record time due to an unexplainable tight pussy? I haven't told you about the foursome which Tyler P and LL essentially duplicated the original Superhole party two years ago... two beautiful women, two horny guys, one room, a pile of raincoats, and well, you really missed it!

LL

LoveLOS
02-10-08, 09:28
Day 3 - 2007 trip reports:

Said date with Sara did not happen. Her real life boyfriend - father of her baby, wanted her. She told me they had broken up. The net effect of catching her in the fabrication is that her year-long spell over LL's mind is broken; the fantasy was great, but I am now free to obsess over another one.


Scratch that. It was Abe that was lying, the greedy bastard. He made more by pushing the girls that worked at Bolerios, so he lied to me and said she was back with her B/F, and he told Sara I never asked for her. BS. When Sara and I compared notes, we busted him. Net effect is that Sara and I will not pay him any tip when we get together, and he now knows he better not pull that shit again.

The other net effect is that Sara is again my ATF, and I will be obsessing over her for another year. or more. Weaponized Kryptonite is back. I am weak.

LL

Wiregrass
02-10-08, 11:02
Hi ya folks, just passing thru this room; I enjoyed reading of your experiences. Thanks for the memories.

I was stationed at Ft WeGotCha in 71. Me and several other GI's went on down to Nogales for a little browsing/ drinking. The bars that I remember were all small/quaint little places, with lazy gals just waiting to be picked up. Ten dollars was big bucks then (esp on $120 month /before taxes pay).

Anyways, three of the five had to go to the dispensary the following Monday. Nothing a little penicillin couldn't cure tho!

LoveLOS
02-10-08, 21:42
Had a chat with USA customs guys. Here is the scoop:

Documents: Passport
ORGov't issued picture ID and Birth Cert (orig or certified copy)

But if you are just coming down for a night and you don't do it repeatedly, you can still get back home with just a Drivers License and a short lecture and you get a sheet with the new rules.

So tonight or tomorrow, for example, don't sweat that detail. How long that will work is anyone's guess. And may depend a lot on the ethnicity, of the person presenting himself as an American citizen. Ty and I look like gringos. Oh. BTW, Tyler and I tested the theory and it worked as stated above.

If you don't have my number but still want to risk LoveLOS ruining your life, probably the best way to locate me, much as I hate to say it, is to go to Obsessions and have Abe call or text me, text preferred since one cannot hear in a strip club. I'll be in Nogi about 8pm tonight until the morning. To be repeated manana.

LoveLOS

TylerPerelli
02-11-08, 00:55
LoveLOS and I bailed from CS in Tucson and headed to Nogales.

Lucky for the ladies he fucks better than he drives...heck he'd be putting it in their asses if not their ears. Dude can't remember where he put his car keys, ID card, room keys...good thing his dick is attached.

That said, the man is a legend, and I am indebted. It is great to share the experiences of successful mongering with someone who appreciates the nuances of the hobby. Having similar tastes was a bonus.

Not having done a thing in Tucson, (and he was a couple pops in when I caught up with him there) I was anxious to do some catching up.

He had promised a tout to check out Club 69 prior to settling in at Bolieros. Instantly I found a very young, petite, cute, blonde spinner. The guy with the tie (GWT) asked me about a $23 dollar privado. Negotiating, I soon had him doubling the five minute tickets (now $46 for twenty minutes).

Yet I want a bj...$.5, maybe $.0, as I continued to negotiate. An offer of fs (and bj) for $175 and thirty minutes was made. Doubting I can get my next two request I say 40 minutes to the GWT and bj uncovered to her. He says okay and so does she (after conferring with him).

SOLD! Even if she was just a tip of the dick fluffer versus a deep-throater, you seldom get a bbbj in Nogales. Telling the GWT, "I have a condom." (instead of the five dollars to the timer) he answers, "So does she."

The 22 year old ULETI and I proceed to the closet. Quickly she is nude and proceeds to kiss the tip (oh boy, here we go?). Nope, she puts it in her mouth and starts in. She's not deep throating, but it is adequate head. She ocassionally looks up and smiles that cute, young smile and kiss and lick the shaft. With my encouragement she sucks my balls periodically, taking the initiative to compliment that with her small hand stroking the shaft.

What a beautiful sight...she's sucking my balls and my cock is stretching across her cute face.

Trying to time the head at 20 minutes prior to multi positions, I get close to popping. She wants to ride, so on with the cover. She takes to much time during the transition and I go to 75% erect. We fix that and I proceed to try to enter a very tight pussy. Much to my dismay, I pop after about to full strokes.

She says we are done, I say we have another 20 minutes. GWT heads down the hall, and after I say I'll take care of her, wanting to hit it with a few positions. Much to my extreme embarrassment, 2nd erection not happening. Even a quick exit to piss doesn't help. She tries to work her magic on the balls again, with her hand, my hand...fuck, I got nothin'!

Still a nice time, yet I had wanted to drill her. Oh well, round one complete.

LL, who was joined by M once we sat down, is soon happy to have Weaponized Kryptonite join him as well. They've hatched a plan, yet before we are out the door, we get a photo of Uleti on his cell phone.

Round two coming up...

TylerPerelli
02-11-08, 02:08
I will be posting my reports when I can squeeze in more than a few hours of sleep. For those who did not join Tyler Tireguy and LL on our two-venue, 24hour, seven pop, six girl adventure, highlighted by a foursome with Two Ms LL's.... OMFG.

*******see above quote from LL and thumbnail in Tucson thread*******

LL having plans with S, asks her if she'd like to eat first, having M and I join them. Apparently M hatches a plan of her own and we leave the club and M drives us to a nice Mexican place for dinner. S speaks fairly good English, and M understands it, yet doesn't speak it.

Dinner and conversation were great...we shared food, laughs, sarcasm, and more. S is just stunning, and M is just cute with a nice smile and great cleavage. S has a sense of humor with sarcastic wit. LL is not the only one lovestruck by her.

***Note: I am using initials rather than names, until LL states the protocol. Tucson may rate more discretion than Nogales, yet better to play it safe.***

Before we headed to dinner, LL let me a magic pill to counter my problem (first time its ever been necessary...first blue pill for me).

We get back to the hotel and it is on...foursome (paired off, yet lots of voyerism...had time allowed, a switch may have taken place). BJ's, DATY, 69, multi positions, some grabbing, kissing, and breast sucking of each others partners and many orgasms commenced.

There were sounds of pleasure evoked from all involved. Multi orgasms were had by all involved, with quite a few Magnums strewn about. Things were back to 100% for me, with S commenting that M ended up having made a great choice. After a couple orgasms for her, my girth was making it painful for her and she was sore.

It was hot to have S watch me pound M as she and LL took a break. LL soon had her in the throws of orgasm again though. The soreness of M was also likely another factor in why the switch didn't occur, as it had been mentioned.

Regardless, we were all very ecstatic about the outcome. Two hot latinas working with two expert cocksmen...what would one expect?

It was a night to remember.

**edit to add: S=Sara, M=Melody

TylerPerelli
02-11-08, 02:11
Said change went into effect January 31st, 2008. I concur with LL.

Back to the Tucson thread to complete my story...



Had a chat with USA customs guys. Here is the scoop:

Documents: Passport
ORGov't issued picture ID and Birth Cert (orig or certified copy)

But if you are just coming down for a night and you don't do it repeatedly, you can still get back home with just a Drivers License and a short lecture and you get a sheet with the new rules.

So tonight or tomorrow, for example, don't sweat that detail. How long that will work is anyone's guess. And may depend a lot on the ethnicity, of the person presenting himself as an American citizen. Ty and I look like gringos. Oh. BTW, Tyler and I tested the theory and it worked as stated above.

If you don't have my number but still want to risk LoveLOS ruining your life, probably the best way to locate me, much as I hate to say it, is to go to Obsessions and have Abe call or text me, text preferred since one cannot hear in a strip club. I'll be in Nogi about 8pm tonight until the morning. To be repeated manana.

LoveLOS

TylerPerelli
02-11-08, 23:18
I am honored to note that my recent Nogales reports have been recommended for the "reports of distinction" thread on the international board.

Kirstyforme
02-12-08, 14:04
Well, I've only lived in Tucson for over 20 years and finally made the trip to Nogales for some mongering entertainment. I may not have had the 'typical' club experience but I'm still reeling as I recount last night's activities....

I missed last week's anitcs with LL in Tucson but returned to town over the weekend. Caught up with LL in Tucson's CS club Monday afternoon in order to solidify plans for the Nogi visit Monday night. LL's Nogi visits are nothing short of legendary (I think he wrote the book) and I wasn't going to miss an opportunity to 'tag along' and see him in action.

Made the drive down and parked in the border lot a little before 10 pm (note: the lot isn't 'open' at this time but the gate is open. Never had to pay the $4 for parking, fwiw). LL had been in touch with his famed Sara several times since leaving Tucson and she had plans for our arrival. Turns out she was going to meet us at LL's hotel with a friend of hers. When they arrive I could instantly see the attraction between Sara and LL. Sara is a complete doll - very pretty face, a killer smile, a great sense of humor (very good english, btw), and great curves to go with it all. With Sara tonight is Patricia. Also quite nice. Small blonde package with a great ass. LL and I exhanged looks and knew we would be having fun!

Sara took the lead and suggested we go out for some drinks so we climed in her car and made our way to a nice quiet bar. The four of us exchanged great conversation (has LL ever mention just how witty and funny Sara is?) while enjoying several (who's counting) rounds of our favorite drinks. All the while I've got Patricia nestled beside me stroking my leg(s).

Fast forward a little bit and it's time to head back to the hotel (thanks LL for sharing your room with this fellow monger!). Once bcd, the girls waste no time shedding their clothes (well, we didn't either) and it was time to explore each other's bodies. This monger and Patricia were cozied at the foot of the bed while LL and his Sara had the bed proper. As LL mentioned it was like living and watching your own porno! Patricia was a trooper and took all I could offer (in many positions) including a to-die for ass spanking! She really got off on getting that luscious ass spanked. After the deed was done, Patricia and I lay together cuddling for some time while exchanging some bits of personal info through my broken spanish. Who said there's no GFE in Nogales?

After a while, Patricia needs to leave and so Sara must say goodbye to LL (sorry about that!). I'm sure LL will report on his own experience (or maybe not) but I DO know that he enjoyed his time (big grin). The girls get dressed and cleaned up and we say our goodbyes....such sweet sorrow. A quick check of the clock reveals it's not quite 2AM so LL and I exchange an evil grin. Time to head to the clubs!

Now suffice it to say I've been in Nogi for going on 4 hrs at this point and I've yet to have the club experience. There's no way I would have made it this far without having such a guide as LL taking me under his wing. Many, many props to you, LL!

We decide to head to Boleiros and check up on the chicas there. Once inside a quck circle around the room to see who's around and another LL favorita finds him. She's charming him into a chair as he waves to me to head his way - he's got another suprise for me! I now am introduced to Alondra. She is drop dead gorgeous! Very tight body and super cute face. Alondra and I take up a chair next to LL and his chica and the fun begins. Alondra is guiding my hands to all parts of her anatomy. She seductively shows me her nicely shaved kitty and guides my fingers there to give me a taste of her wetness. All the while she's stroking my member and whispering to me how nice it is. Alondra is called to go on stage and LL informs me that he's planning to take his chica back to the hotel. I haven't checked out every girl in the place but have decided Alondra would be a nice round so inquire as to whether we can join them. A hearty yes! My kind of mongerer! LL helps me with the required financial information and when Alondra returns from her stage set we make the deal. A few minutes later she returns in her street clothes and the four of us are headed out the door for the hotel.

The earlier session was a nice warm-up but this round was even better. Two spinners and two mongers ready for action. No inhibitions being shown by any of the four of us. Alondra looked fantastic out of her clothes (side note: she has a smaller rack than some may prefer. I like a natural set regardless of size so I was in heaven). Now with my earlier activities in Tucson and Patricia I was on my fourth round with Alondra. She had no trouble however raising my member for her initial get to know you bj! I was in awe with her and we wasted no time in suiting up and having her climb aboard. Watching her descend down upon my staff was a sight to behold (maybe LL can comment?) as she is so tight and tiny. She let out a few gasps as I buried deep in her. Switching to doggie I was able to spy LL and his chica taking the same position from the other side of the bed. Talk about a kodak moment! Here's the two of us driving our swollen members deep inside the softest, wettest pussies in Nogales as we look at each other with huge grins across our faces...let me tell you it doesn't get any better than that!

Alondra is panting heavily by now and gasping under her breath. I know I'm finding the right spots deep inside her but decide to give it to her in mish. She eagerly agrees and I'm thrusting deeper and deeper. I decide to give her a short break as my tongue works its way down her stomach to her quivering little pussy. Oh how tasty and wet she is. As I work away with my tongue and lips I truly believe she was enjoying herself and letting go. Alondra and I decide it's time for more mish and I climb aboard for more. As I'm going deeper and deeper with each thrust I feel her tightening around my cock like never before. She's now moaning 'dios mio, dios mio' in my ear and I feel her fingers clenched in my back as she's cumming hard! I decide now is the time to ride her to the end and give it my all until I explode! This was easily one of the best encounters I've ever had and will look to repeat somehow, some way again soon.

Alondra and I clean up and I give her a well deserved tip (maybe not entirely necessary but I was happy). LL is still enjoying his round so we decide to leave them undisturbed and I take Alondra back to the club. It's now going on 3AM and I've got to head back to Tucson. The crossing back to the US was uneventful thanks to several who have prepared me for what to take. This is a night I'll remember for some time....

Summary: Two separate complete GFE encounters along with great conversation, drinks, and no holds barred sex. Granted hotel was provided by LL along with the intel and starting points. Total outlay was $500 plus gas when all was said and done. Not a bad way to 'bust my cherry' in my book!

LoveLOS
02-26-08, 18:41
Making room for others on the board, LoveLOS will be retiring at the end of this trip. Tonight, Wednesday, and Thursday will be it, then finished... Call me for tonight. We start after my date with Cytlaly in a few hours.

PM your phone number if you want to party on Wed or Thur.

I won`t be posting of these events--I actually preferred the method that the party nights are reported by others and the solo nights are left up to your immagination. Here is a abbreviated sample of some highlights:

A random night may be simply answering my hotel door at 9pm, and sending my chica du jour home at 3am. One needs those relaxed nights to recoup from nights like last night:
3 hour dinner/hotel date with Angel. She drops me off in her car at the front door of Bolerios, we kiss and I get out to the high fives of all the door guys. I entered to fullfill the promised date with Brenda. That plan quickly spins out of control, and becomes a hotel date threesome that includes her best friend, and the first girl I randomly took to bed in Nogi this year, Davora. The girls just took me to the dressing room with them while the got dressed. Citlaly and Alena are also in the room, eating dinner. Very special, especially since shit like that doesn`t happen to most Nogi barhoppers. Kisses around and the three of us left for my hotel. Two rounds later we are back a the bar and I am accosted by Citlaly and Alena, a pair of 9 to 10´s proposing the same arrangement. No matter how hot that pair is, another threesome fifteen minutes after a threesome is not fair to yourself or to the women. I brokered the Cytlaly date for today and Alena is for another day. I left the bar and allowed the four women whose attention I was dominating to rotate to the other guys in the bar. I went to bed and awoke sometime after bar closing to a pair of horny, possessive latinas determined to party on... The second treesome of the night. I was physically unable to service one of the ladies properly, so she will be calling sometime today.

Abraham wants to get back into my good graces. His tip is pretty meager nowadays... So his next offering should be off the charts, but since he is back at Bolerios, where his best bets are already on my speed dial, I guess he won`t impress me easily. Of course, he did manage to come up, over the years, with Sara, Melody, Lorania and now Angel, so I have to hand him some credit for good taste. I think of him as Charlie Tuna. Really the only really hot dancer I have met but not bedded yet that I think I need to experience is Shiela. I met her the other day and see why Ed and SH have, um reservations, at LL meeting their Shiela.

Bottom line is this, SMWSLT. I literally need help to fuck my way thru the backlog, and only have a day or so to make it happen. As Kirsty mentioned to me a few minutes ago, the table scraps are really worthwhile.

LoveLOS

SMWSLT ©2002 LoveLOS = "So many women, so little time"

Ed...
02-27-08, 14:24
LOL LOS!

It seems to me you are going 'all in' instead.

I think I recall, there's an old movie where the hero decided to quit his evil ways with a television monitor (Doesnt matter, forget it) , but instead was sucked inside for eternity.
50/50 you do not get out of Nogi this time!

As we've talked, I've been hitting the town a long time, pre-internet super highway. Most of the new info way back then came at personal expense. Shit, the learning curve was amazing. We had fear and intrepidation, and only a hope of gettin laid in the first trips. It's not like that for the new boys surfing for sex.

You've broken the mold, my friend. Short of a statue....
I suggest a BRIEF report on how to do Nogi right, to be forever pinned at the top of the lists. (International in particular, of course). You'll be interned as the 'Brockton O'Toole' of Sonora!

Ed...

LoveLOS
02-27-08, 16:04
It seems to me you are going 'all in' instead. Works good in Texas Holdem, why not apply what we have learned from the world´s greatest gamblers to our own lives?
As we've talked, I've been hitting the town a long time, pre-internet super highway. Most of the new info way back then came at personal expense. Shit, the learning curve was amazing. We had fear and intrepidation, and only a hope of gettin laid in the first trips. It's not like that for the new boys surfing for sex.Yes, I have to agree. The newbies that tell me they have read the fucking forum and ask exactly what time to go to get "Dancer-X", and will she really perform "sexact B."
=or worse= Hey dude, I really dig your (fill in LL fantasy girl du jour). Can you send more pics and her phone number?

Answers: Im a hobbyist, not a pimp. Go to the fucking club and try to find her. If you cant find her, find another one. I met a girl last night that I have wanted to meet for three years. Angel was planning on meeting me, so I had an hour, I thought. I took this girl to the club bedroom since I figured it was the only chance to sample this superstar. It was one of the best first-time-sex with a dancer ever, very passionate, five orgasms on her part and we spent well over the allotted time. Then I came out to Angel, who took me home to totally blow my mind. Since Angel is friends with "superstar," we may all find ourselves in a threesome/foursome very soon.

Wiil that happen to you? Absa-fucking-lutely........NOT! Your mileage WILL vary for several reasons:
They are women, and ultimately in control of how they use their bodies. I have developed a trust relationship with many of the girls. I get privelage and service others do not, and there are other guys that have relationships that I will never duplicate. If you treat these ladies like the ladies that they are; be willing yourself to learn, laugh, and maybe even risk falling in love with a women more alluring than those of my beloved Land of Smiles. Then your mileage will be similar.

And to the second guy who whacks off to my posts but hasn´t the balls to cross that border...go find your own porn.

I just got two phone numbers this year from girls I have been fucking for two or three years. That is definately a trust issue. A lot of these ladies have children, strongly religious family, and deluded jealous boyfriends who cant support them but presume to interfere with her when she is "working!" Nogi can be a very small town, so play well to reap the benefits.

To my wingman last night, it was a good time, hope you can make it back down for those other two things on your new "to-do list"...

Speaking of to do list, I am hopeful tonight will be the night I take Alondra again. I am sure her pussy has now returned to it`s amazing tightness by now after her encounter with Kirsty... And while re-reading your post, little LL signaled his vote:
The earlier session was a nice warm-up but this round was even better. Two spinners and two mongers ready for action. No inhibitions being shown by any of the four of us. Alondra looked fantastic out of her clothes (side note: she has a smaller rack than some may prefer. I like a natural set regardless of size so I was in heaven). Now with my earlier activities in Tucson and Patricia I was on my fourth round with Alondra. She had no trouble however raising my member for her initial get to know you bj! I was in awe with her and we wasted no time in suiting up and having her climb aboard. Watching her descend down upon my staff was a sight to behold (maybe LL can comment?) as she is so tight and tiny. She let out a few gasps as I buried deep in her. Switching to doggie I was able to spy LL and his chica taking the same position from the other side of the bed. Talk about a kodak moment! Here's the two of us driving our swollen members deep inside the softest, wettest pussies in Nogales as we look at each other with huge grins across our faces...let me tell you it doesn't get any better than that!

Alondra is panting heavily by now and gasping under her breath. I know I'm finding the right spots deep inside her but decide to give it to her in mish. She eagerly agrees and I'm thrusting deeper and deeper. I decide to give her a short break as my tongue works its way down her stomach to her quivering little pussy. Oh how tasty and wet she is. As I work away with my tongue and lips I truly believe she was enjoying herself and letting go. Alondra and I decide it's time for more mish and I climb aboard for more. As I'm going deeper and deeper with each thrust I feel her tightening around my cock like never before. She's now moaning 'dios mio, dios mio' in my ear and I feel her fingers clenched in my back as she's cumming hard! I decide now is the time to ride her to the end and give it my all until I explode! This was easily one of the best encounters I've ever had and will look to repeat somehow, some way again soon.

Alondra and I clean up and I give her a well deserved tip (maybe not entirely necessary but I was happy). LL is still enjoying his round so we decide to leave them undisturbed and I take Alondra back to the club. It's now going on 3AM and I've got to head back to Tucson. The crossing back to the US was uneventful thanks to several who have prepared me for what to take. This is a night I'll remember for some time....


LoveLOS

Ed...
02-27-08, 18:25
I met a girl last night that I have wanted to meet for three years.

Jessica', I presume?



Since Angel is friends with "superstar," we may all find ourselves in a threesome/foursome very soon.

Can I whack off now?



And to the second guy who whacks off to my posts but hasn´t the balls to cross that border...go find your own porn.

No, seriously, can I whack off now?

Ed...

LoveLOS
02-27-08, 22:59
Jessica', I presume?
Si
...

No, seriously, can I whack off now?

Ed... Si, but are you sure you wouldn't rather be the fourth? Your call. Whack off if you wish...

Lobo003
03-05-08, 23:23
Hello everyone,

I've been reading all your post for some time now and you guys are a crazy bunch of horndogs so I thought I would share my experiences south of the border. First of all Lord black opens on Friday, I talked to the customs agents on the US side and they said that ports of entry cards are available now at the post office for about $40, you still need your birth certificate to obtain one. I 've been doing the Nogi shuffle for many years now and have enjoyed every second with those wonderful latinas, I've done the local Strip clubs in town and spent thousands of dollars with little in return, don't get me wrong I've had my share of wonderful experiences, but the girls on the US side have nothing on the women down south. They are friendly, willing and eager to please and go the extra mile to satisfy your needs. Within the last 2 years I started taking groups of friends to nogales Sonora, they are amazed at the quality of women to be found so close, the beauty the eagerness to please, they are just dumbfounded by what I show them. I speak fluent spanish and the interpreter for all my friends, I now all the customs and traditions, the bouncers, owners and girls (and yes Abe is an ass for those in the know). This month I've been down there every week, last month I was there twice a week, guess what I was doing? Anyhow, enough about me, let me tell you about my last rendezvous, I had a date on Sunday after being there on Saturday, I set it up the day before, her name is Samantha and works at Boleiro, not a drop dead gorgeous woman but pretty and very playful and full of energy and wants it every way possible, she gave me her number and I called her Sunday I wasn't able to make contact, so I moved on and went window shopping to Lust to check out the hotties I found 5 girls working that day 3 of them made me melt with desire 2 of the ones I wanted were on their periods, so that was a no go, then Boleiro to see who was there I chatted with Cytlaly for a few minutes she wanted to know were all my buddies were, she has a tendancy to hook up with all of them I myself have not had the pleasure, but she is growing on me. On Saturday there were many new girls from Hermosillo 9s and 10s but for Sunday 7 girls, only a couple of the new ones from the day before, they were busy chit chatting with their friends, I will catch up with them later. I moved on visiting one of the massage parlors where Daniel works, they had nothing I liked, so on to Obsessions to visit one of my favorites Shayla a hot girl from Aguas Calientes Mex. I will talk about her in later posts and for those that follow these posts she is not the one pictured on this site. Shayla complained that I didn't want to get busy with her, all the while she had her hand on my family jewels playing tug of war with my johnson I told her that when the owner or the right bouncers aren't present I won't do anything with her, she gave me an attitude and danced for someone else. In the mean time I had a street hustler actually 3 working for me, one brought me an ugly girl, I passed the other one couldn't make contact with his girl and the third hustler called a female hustler friend and she provided a real nice one but I've had problems with this lady hustler so I passed, so I finished window shopping I went back to one of the TDs mentioned above where I found Ashley, small titties and a butt to die for I took her upstairs and we got busy, she danced for me a little, butt naked then she showed off her little body spreading her legs and playing with herself making all kinds of squishy noises with her kitty and when she bent over, she left me speachless. I will leave out some of the details for now untill I know what is appropriate for this site. Anyhow she gave me a wonderful BW followed by girl on top, damn she was tight going in, reverse cow girl and doggy, we did it for an hour and 20 minutes when she started to complain that she was getting tired so I hurried up and finished (I had it reserved for 2 hours) Another satisfying moment in Nogi. Untill next time, I have another date on Saturday with a girl in a motel room.

TylerPerelli
03-06-08, 02:06
Lobo,

Nice first report and welcome.

Perhaps you could try some paragraphs and line breaks in your post.

A full page ran together gets difficult to read.

Looking forward to hearing more of your escapades.

Lobo003
03-06-08, 04:49
I met Joanna at Placers probably 6-7 months ago she was 18 then and just had a baby so she was carying a little extra weight still slim, kinda of a pudgy slim ,medium size titties about 5'6 to 5'7 in height. She took to my buddy like a long lost friend they chatted, actually she chatted to myself and I interpreted to him he fondled her breast amd caressed her body and asked her about her future plans, I myself was not very interested in her.

A couple months later I went to Nogi alone and found Joanna, still working at Placers and now 19 she found me and sat on my lap, we talked I fondled her titties and tickled her kitty and that got me motivated enough to get a dance, we went upstairs and I had a blast playing with her body, I'm not shy, I dive into every nook and cranny that she had, only one problem her hegiene wasn't very well managed so that turned me off a little.

A few more months passed and she was working at Lust, Tony one of the street hustlers said she was working with him as well, I passed on her and get this I told Tony I didn't like her and got another girl that night. By now Joanna was starting to look at me differently, longer stares and flirty.

Several weeks ago I find her working at Obsessions, by now she has lost some weight cut her hair just above her shoulder, I take a look at her and I could not believe how gorgeous she looks, and her butt , wow, I was in heaven while I watched her on stage, She came over to me with a bashful demeanor and we chatted like old friends, no fondling just a heart to heart chat and we made plans to meet the following saturday. I left Obsessions with a tremendous desire for Joanna and headed to placers to try and find Alexa the hard body from Tijuana, no luck, I was having trouble hooking up with a girl that night so I was thinking of returning to Obsessions and visiting with Shayla, it was near closing time so Tony suggested that we see who leaves early, the front door to the club was closed so he took me to the back entrance and as we approached the door, guess who came out, it was Joanna and I asked her how about tonight, she eagerly accepted.

In the room at the hotel we start to get busy slowly pealing away her cloths layer by layer and marveling at the body that was unraveling before me, she hugs me and jumps on me like an old girl friend, no penetration yet, just alot of caressing, now we are both fully nude and she starts with a wonderful CBJ which lasted for about 15 minutes, she then climbs on top and impales herself on my badboy up and down she went slow then fast and managed to orgasm fairly quickly, she would then hug and kiss me, not on the cheek, we were frenching ,all this while still riding me. Doggy was our next position we did it for a while untill she started to get sore so we switched to missionary were she felt better, still sore, but more managable so I brought out the lube and smothered her kitty, that helped we went at it for a little more than an hour, untill she couldn't go any more, she had two more orgasms to my one. We had a wonderful time and snuggled for a while after our encounter. I will be seeing her again.

Merlin Magician
03-15-08, 15:30
I just ran across a guy who runs a wrecker in Tucson. He does not speak English but my friend who referred him said the wrecker guy's dad runs a cat house in Nogales. I'll be meeting with the guy soon and I'll get the 411 if his dad (and his sisters) are still in business.

Ed...
03-15-08, 21:08
I just ran across a guy who runs a wrecker in Tucson. He does not speak English but my friend who referred him said the wrecker guy's dad runs a cat house in Nogales. I'll be meeting with the guy soon and I'll get the 411 if his dad (and his sisters) are still in business.


Does he mean Sonora? If not Merlin, that would be some info to use caution with.
There was that old strip club on the Az side that ran a loose business. I wonder what happend to him, and the girls that serviced all those truckers.
Ed...

Hinder
03-16-08, 03:56
Hello USG. I am new to this board, but I have a few friends that play here that I have met in real life. I won't toss any names around because it seems that reputation comes from reports, not bragging on your first post. LOL.

Nogi is a favorite haunt, and it seems that there is a lot of good info already here, so I hope I can add something.

The touts are telling me that:

1. La Conga is closed.

2. La Conga has no girls working.

While both are believable and knowing touts have a difficult time with the concept of telling the truth, just wondered if any intrepid soul may have wandered up that way to brave the ugliness of it all.

And is Shayla and Sheila the same girl (Obsessions)? My session with Sheila was somewhat unforgettable.

I met her on a Tuesday nite when I had a date with a girl from another bar, so I made the mental note to return and left. She didn't work on Wednesday. I managed to find her again on Thursday and it took only one round of drinks to know that this girl was bedroom material. Unfortunately, I had made arrangements with my regular to meet her in an hour at Obsessions. Just about enough time. I took her to the in-bar bedroom and she rocked my perverted little mind. I won't state that we spent 60 of our allotted 40 minutes, had four orgasms between us, and experienced all orifices--because I don't need a rep as a bullshitter right off the bat. I guess you can think what you will, but the following is no BS:

1. YMMV
2. Sheila is highly recommended
3. I hope to repeat in a hotel room sometime. Nice.

Of course, I came out of the VIP area to meet my date, waiting patiently for me. Oops, Viva Mexico!

Hinder

Lobo003
03-16-08, 16:02
Lord Black formerly Placers is open again, nothing really spectacular the only real thing that really stands out is the nice red chairs and the fantastic job they did in the privados, the waiters/bouncers uniform, red shirts, ties and white pants, looks nice and classy, same staff and all the same guys I can trust and the same relaxed atmosphere.

Lust is also reopened new coat of paint, carpeting and new private booths up stairs and neon lights out front.

I met a very nice girl at Lord black horny as hell and wanted to jump my bones I got a private and wow my fingers were everywhere,I sampled every hole she had and she begged me to munch on her kitty so I obliged, I will hook up with her later and do a proper job.

I sampled the delicasies of a lady at Lust, her name is Luna damn I had a good time , I will give you the details about her later.

Hinder sounds like the Shayla I know ,all orificies, you dirty dog, do her again I asked if I could get pictures but she said no.

Lobo

Sexhobbyist
03-18-08, 20:41
If tradition holds true, the clubs will be closed this weekend for Good Friday and Easter. You must monger in your hometown, or take care of business yourself.

It's a shame because I think they'd get a lot of business. I know I'd be there.

Sexhobbyist

Azrobert
03-18-08, 21:17
Hey SH, I plan my first trip down there in ages and then hear this.... LOL

I hope a few of them will be open, going down with my boss to pick up some medicine and hope to have a little fun in the same trip. It wil be interesting to see if the stricter border crossing pollicy has had an effect on the clubs and pricing, I would think they are getting a lot less traffic these days and may be forced to lower prices to a more reasonable level. I am sure it has had an impact for the student crowd from Tucson.

Sexhobbyist
03-18-08, 21:28
Hello USG. I am new to this board, but I have a few friends that play here that I have met in real life. I won't toss any names around because it seems that reputation comes from reports, not bragging on your first post. LOL.

Nogi is a favorite haunt, and it seems that there is a lot of good info already here, so I hope I can add something.

The touts are telling me that:

1. La Conga is closed.

2. La Conga has no girls working.

While both are believable and knowing touts have a difficult time with the concept of telling the truth, just wondered if any intrepid soul may have wandered up that way to brave the ugliness of it all.

And is Shayla and Sheila the same girl (Obsessions)? My session with Sheila was somewhat unforgettable.

I met her on a Tuesday nite when I had a date with a girl from another bar, so I made the mental note to return and left. She didn't work on Wednesday. I managed to find her again on Thursday and it took only one round of drinks to know that this girl was bedroom material. Unfortunately, I had made arrangements with my regular to meet her in an hour at Obsessions. Just about enough time. I took her to the in-bar bedroom and she rocked my perverted little mind. I won't state that we spent 60 of our allotted 40 minutes, had four orgasms between us, and experienced all orifices--because I don't need a rep as a bullshitter right off the bat. I guess you can think what you will, but the following is no BS:

1. YMMV
2. Sheila is highly recommended
3. I hope to repeat in a hotel room sometime. Nice.

Of course, I came out of the VIP area to meet my date, waiting patiently for me. Oops, Viva Mexico!

Hinder


Welcome aboard, Hinder. Nice to have some fresh blood here. It sounds like you've had a nice time in Nogie, especially with Sheila, a long-time favorite of mine. I guess the pressure is on for me to marry her before you get to her again. Just kidding. She is something special to experience and is recommended by me, as well.

I haven't heard anything about La Conga, but I rarely used it except as a last resort to get rid of a bad case of blue balls.
Sexhobbyist

Stan Pace
03-26-08, 22:34
Another newbie here. I just crossed back across the border and thought a report was warrented. I drive truck and get to Nogales on a weekly basis so I guess I'm spoiled but I went to Obsessions (I think thats where I was) early afternoon and the place was empty. Sat down and the most beautiful girl ever sat down with me. Low and behold she said her name was Sheila. Anyway to make a long story short after a couple table dances (I never pay for the private dances since you get just as good of a dance on the floor as you do in the private room for half the money) I took her back to the large room with the couches. And needless to say she is everything that has been reported and then some never rushed and really got into her work. Paid $120 which was probably too much but well worth it.

Lobo003
03-26-08, 23:45
I got hooked up with Marsela from one of the local street hustlers, not one that I would recommend, he will stab you in the back if you let him. It was late in the evening about 2am the street hustlers girls were all done for the night so he called up a local Madame who apparently has 60 girls, I can't verify that but that's what they told me.

We went to her house where there were 5 girls present one stood out above all the rest, her name was Marsela we hit it off right away I checked her out and really liked what I saw, while I was talking with her boss discussing services I kept catching Marsela giving me quick shy glances, I knew this was going to be fun.

While in the car she was singing and kept joking with me and horsing around, I brought her back to my motel, I had her lay there on the bed she was still dressed, I was just savoring her beauty with anticipation for what was about to begin. She is 25 years old stands from Jalisco about 5'7" very curvy, spanish face, light skinned, small breasted with a wonderful behind, she said she had 3 children but it was not that evident, slight stretch marks on the sides of her hip that you couldn't hardly see.

Anyhow playtime, I got her naked and we layed there talking and joking she had me laughing pretty hard, then she made the comment whats wrong how come he won't wake up, refering to my manhood I told her to stop cracking jokes and he will wake up real quick, needless to say she shut up and wala presto at full attention, she was happy and played with him for a while.

Somehow we skipped oral not that I missed it because she was wonderful. As soon as she placed my raincoat on, she impaled herself with such delight she rode me like there was no tomorrow, she orgasmed pretty quick while she was on top.

Now it was my turn I layed her flat on her back missionary style while I stood next to the bed, this woman just loved to be fucked I went slow then fast alternating back and forth she was squirming and making all kinds of silly little noises her eyes kept rolling back into her head and she had funny expressions on her face, man I really had the magic with this lady I couldn't go wrong. The satisfaction that I saw on her face got me hornier and more determined to give her the best fuck she would have in a while. She had orgasm after orgasm I told her that she was having more fun than I was.

Anyhow we did a little doggy and some DATY and when she orgasmed at least 10 times, I lost count after that, I finished up, she was starting to reach a state of convulsions and was starting to forget to breath.

I gave her one final orgasm after we were all done, I just had to do it, I fingered her clit and she orgasmed and almost passed out, she finally said no more. HeHe what fun. I even tried when she was fully clothed again I played with her pussy throught her pants and she was starting to reach her climax.

After we got dressed she told me that she wasn't enjoying sex much lately, she was on a 3 month dry spell, she was doing it, just not enjoying it untill she met me and man did the damn break, I'm glad I was there to spill the waters.

Lobo

I'm goin to Nogi again Saturday to make more memories.

Sexhobbyist
03-27-08, 20:54
Female Pimp and I are going to Nogales Saturday night. It will be an unforgettable experience.

Sexhobbyist

Lobo003
04-02-08, 06:37
The following is a guide line to the cost of services in Nogales Sonora:

Strip Club cover charge $4-5 depending on club, some have no cover depending on the doormans mood.

Cover charge usually covers first drink, usually a beer or soda.

Buying a girl a drink so she may sit with you will cost you $11-13 depending on club plus $1or $2 tip to the waiter. Some clubs are relaxed on this and don't forcefully encourage you to buy them a drink, with exceptions of Boleiro they have become a real pain in the butt with this. In any event it's your call.

Services:

Lap dance on the floor $10-11

Private (privado) usually about $23, always ask for 2 for one privado, they run that special during the night. You get more time for the same money.

FS in the clubs in their private room $150 -200, the girls usually ask for $180
I never pay over $150 in the clubs if they don't meet my price I move on. They usaully accept my price or they regret it later. One girl quoted me $300 I laughed at her, a new girl who was deported from Los Angeles was working me for $500 outside of the club needless to say I pointed out the fact that she was in Mexico now, she lowered her price to $200 and I said no!!! then she came down to $170 I walked away. I play my phsylogical game with them.

You want to take her to a hotel, tack on another $100 depending on the club and whether you are new or a regular.

Independants through street hustlers $100-$120 plus cost of hotel room ranging from $15-$20 for an hour per room to $35-40 for the night

Street girls and bar girls $40-$80 FS

Massage parlors $40 for a real massage for 45 minutes if you want more you need to talk to the girl FS $100-$120 negotiable.

I recently met one who quoted $60 FS and $40 for the house

I have a few other tricks but I will keep them secret for now.

Some of the girls I've met:

Joana #1 $80 for an hour plus 18 years old verified.BBBJ,Mish,DATY,Cowgirl,ontop,doggy
$20 for hotel plus $10 tip to hustler
Total $110

Joana #2 $120 1 hour,19 years old,CBJ,on top,doggy,Mish,DATY
$20 for hotel,$10 tip to hustler
Total $150

Argelia $100 2 hours 25 years we did everything plus some
$0 for hotel she had her own room, $10 tip
I seem this girl on a regular basis at a $100 a session
Total $110

Paola $80 hotel $20
Total $100

Shayla $150 in the club , one hour, plus $10 tip
Total $160

Yoseli $150 in the club, 21 years, one hour ,plus $10 tip
Total $160

Luna $150 in the club, 25 years, one hour and a half,plus $10 tip
Total $160

Sophia $200 found her in a club and the next day she picked me up and we got a hotel room $35 ,27 years.

She worked me for a couple of months so there was some friendship
Total $235 plus the cost of gas I won't do this again

Ther are some SW for about $40-$60 but they scare me and you can find some in the bars they are usally a little heavier set, but if you look you can find a gem.

Lobo

Ed...
04-03-08, 20:27
All except 'the tricks you'll keep secret' part lol!
Concise and accurate.

Lobo003
04-04-08, 20:21
Thanks Ed for the kind words it's nice to have place where I can freely talk about my adventures.

The only reason I started to post here was because all of my friends got a kick out of my adventures in Nogi. They were surprised at what I do, what I get and how I get it. Their eyes glaze over, jaws drop with amazement and they start to drool, OK drooling is stretching it a bit ,but you get the point and because of that I figured there should be many more people who would enjoy my stories.

Usually I tell my stories from beginning to end from my first drink, who I play with, which clubs I visit, the people I meet, the good and the bad and of course the ladies I spend my energies on.

It's popular with my friends so soon I will post a beginning to end adventure and see how it is received here.

Here are a few more examples of the kind of fun to be found in Nogi Sonora:

Fernanda: The first time I met her I turned her down over $20 (asking price$120) I offered $100. She had an attitude and a little testy so we went our ways. The following week Tony my hustler said she was available and that he spoke with her during the week about what I want ,the time I need to do the deed and my desires. This time I didn't argue with her she was very beautiful very curvy ,coke bottle type nice big boobs. She was ready to party and stayed with me all night from 10 pm to 9am the next morning (11 hours), we talked and we f**ked on and off untill her little pussy couldn't take it anymore, I applied some vitamin E and she felt much better, this is a free tip to all you mongers your girl has a sore pussy apply vitamin E, it works.

Total $120 for girl, $35 hotel, $10 tip and I gave her an extra $20 tip
$185 and very well spent.

A 2 girl night
Girl#1 I can't remenber her name $100, 2 hour fuck
Girl #2 Idali $100, 2 hour fuck
Hotel for the night $38
tip $20 to Tony
Total $258 I also had about 5 or 6 dances at various clubs that night that was not included in this total.

Hotel girls are usually GFE lots of kissing, french kissng as well and hugging.
Club girls usually get right to work.

This post is to give any new guys and part timers an idea as to what is available south of the border.

On another point I've recently come across another angle to finding women and they are low mileage, more girl friend type material that want to get busy from time to time. The last one I met has only done the deed twice in the year she has been in Nogales, very pretty and friendly I got her number and I will hook up with her soon. I won't say where or when yet, I need to do more research

I hope you guys enjoy my post

Lobo

Jeff J9433
04-09-08, 12:40
Just wondering if anyone has any exprience south of Nogales. I'm headed to Hermosillo next week and need some help finding the clubs or if there's a red light district.

Thanks!

El Jimador
04-09-08, 18:50
I will be in Nogales Thursday afternoon. What bars have girls available besides the strip clubs. Most of the sc's are not open untill later and I have to leave by 5:00pm. Thanks for any info.

Ed...
04-11-08, 00:23
Just wondering if anyone has any exprience south of Nogales. I'm headed to Hermosillo next week and need some help finding the clubs or if there's a red light district.

Thanks!

Jeff, I sent a PM with a report from Monger X at the
internationalsexguide.info. It's the sister site for out of the US.




I will be in Nogales Thursday afternoon. What bars have girls available besides the strip clubs. Most of the sc's are not open untill later and I have to leave by 5:00pm. Thanks for any info.

Conga should be open, but it may not be to your liking at that hour.

Catch a cab with a driver that comes to you speaking English. Check it out while he waits, then/or let him take you on a tour of potential dates. This is the best bet for youth and quality out of a club.

You could also walk the area more of less near Obsessions and streets south and west, you'll be approached!

El Jimador
04-12-08, 14:56
Since the Crystal Palace is gone, is there any place that is similar in Rocky Point. What I mean is a place were you can sit around with the girls and have a few drinks and not be hassled by the waiters. More of a locals type place that is'nt a strip club or Happy Face. Thanks for any info.

Lobo003
04-20-08, 21:36
For those who are interested, Nogales is celebrating Cinco de Mayo in about a week. Festivities would have started April 26th but the mayor of nogales declared a week of morning and but in place a moratorium on all festivities because of the death of school children in a horrible bus accident and the death of a teacher and some more students in another unrelated accident.

The fiesta should start about the first weekend in May. I highly recommend going although mongering may be difficult ,do to the party, there will be girls in the clubs but not many customers so the girls will be hungry. They have a block party that will be fenced off and lasts about 15 days, it's on the same street that most of the strip clubs are on such as Boleiro, Lord Black etc. This fiesta is more adult orientated, no children, live bands lots of good food plenty of cheep beer (on the street Not the Strip clubs)and a shit load of hot chicas all over the f**king place, last year I hooked up with some Tecate beer models from Hermosillo in Studio 69 while they were taking a break from promotions, both 18 and I'm still dreaming about them today.

I will be taking a group of guys the first weekend of May probably Saturday May 3rd to party and chase girls. Arrive early about 6-7pm because a very long line forms on the wekends and I think you would rather chase girls than stand in line that can last up to an hour.

Lobo

Lobo003
04-21-08, 00:14
This past weekend I decided to gather some intel on the upcomming Cinco de Mayo festivities, minimize my expenditures and try to get some freebies based on my reputation.

We got there late 12 midnight and it was pretty quiet down there, minimal girls, barely any customers, everybody complaining about money, even the people that don't ask me for a tip came begging.

Obsessions was the first club we visited, greeted the doorman Gustavo, nice guy always chases away the street hustlers from me, that tag along when crossing the border, On stage was a fat chick dressed as a belly dancer, man was that a turn off, I couldn't wait for her to get off stage, the next girl that came on was slimmer but still butt ugly. My contact there said he had a new slim girl that I probably would like. He was right, she was a Nogi local tall slim shapely and extremely fuckable. I had him bring her over for our introductions all under the assumption that I would play with her privately, she sat on my lap, I rubbed her back while in conversation, popped her boobs out played with her nipples, pulled her panties down to look and play with her pussy. I talked with her about sex as to whether she liked it, she replied yes with a very shy response, she would drop her head and bump mine when she answered , everytime I asked her about sex she would do a drop and bump, I thought that was cute. She would reposition her self and grind her butt on my crotch everytime our conversation became sexual in nature not only was she getting horny but so was I, but my mission was to get a free dance, got it, I told her I would be back,
We spent 30 minutes and the cost of 2 drinks.

Lust was next on my list, 3 pretty girls, the first girl that plopped down on my lap was chunky and not very attractive after a few words she left. Next came a familiar face, she's a friend of a favorite girl of mine and she wants me to fuck her too, she sat on my lap for a couple of minutes untill the club decided to run a 2 for one dance so she went on stage and I let her prance around on stage for a little bit then I started to flirt with her from afar and called her over for a privado. In the privado she was nekked in a jiffy I never seen any body get naked so quick I looked at her face then worked my way dawn to her feet and back, bamm nekked. She then jump on me facing me grinding her pussy into my crotch, her big ole titties in my face where I started to squeeze them and suck on her nipples and milk them as if I were at a dairy, later on I worked my hand down to her pussy and damn that woman was hot and wet, I told her I think you need to get fucked and asked her if any body poked her today and she said no, so I said do you want to fuck and she smiled timidly at me and said yes. We continued with the dance alternating between her titties, booty and pussy all the while she was yanking and stroking on my cock. I'm still building the sexual tension with this girl, some of you might think I'm crazy, you're probably saying do her all ready and move on to the next, but I have my ways.

We spent about an hour the cost of 2 drinks and one $25 dance.

Lord Black was next formerly Placers where I found Uyuki, she plops her asian looking butt on my leg where we go through our song and dance of playful flirting and petting. First I massage her back then I poke on her grabbing on her titties her pussy and slapping her ass all the while she tries to play the innocent good girl. She is a bundle of joy very friendly and fun to be around, she tried to drag me to a privado but I resisted and I had my second free dance of the night.
We spent about 30 minutes and the cost of 2 drinks.

Finally we went to Boleiros, lately I've been avoiding this club because of their attitude, but we went in because my friend wanted to go in. Lots of nice girls, all the regulars were there. Alondra walked by and greeted me and later came and sat on my friends lap, I told him to just let it happen they conversed for a while then she got up flashed her titties and then pulled her panties down to reveal her tiny pussy, needless to say my friends eyes popped out in amazement. As I went to the restroom I caught the eye of a lovely girl on some guys lap and I flirted with her with quick eye and mouth movements. Later she came over and we conversed, she tried to leave because I wouldn't by her a drink, I told her to stay and talk for a while and I will by a privado. Pulled her titties out and played with her nipples then I took a peek at her pussy. Down stairs in the privado she started her dance she starts grinding and rubbing her butt really nice into my crotch,while facing away from me I pull her top down and play with her titties, turning around her boobs are revealed to me and places them in my mouth were I begin to suck and sqeeze them, a few more minutes pass by, all the while were she tries to convince me to fuck her and I play her game, she starts to undress me pulling on my chest hairs and guess what she calls me " LOBO" what is she a mind reader so I start to howl. My belt buckle starts to come undone she unzips my pants, and I say to my self now this is getting interesting, pulls my pants down a little then she fishes junior out at full attention and starts a wonderful hand job, turning around she starts grinding her bare pussy on my hard cock, damn I wanted to stick it in her finally my time was up, so I got dressed and talked to her about full service. At first she wanted me to do her in the club and I told her no I wanted to go to a hotel she was a little hesitant at first but then said that she would only go if she brought a friend along, I played my usual game of resisting there charms but I agreed and I'm scheduled to play with them next week. She quoted me $100 per girl.

I also found my Cali girl in Boleiros she kept giving me the eye all night all the while she was on some guys lap and across from me in the privados. I'm still playing my head games with this girl, I'm giving her an attitude adjustment.

We spent over an hour the cost of 2 drinks and one 2for1 $23 privado.

Total cost for this night starting from TDs east with a drink and some tipping to gas, a couple of paid dances alot of freebies and a couple of burgers a Wendys cost me on my end $105 my friend spent about $20. My point is you don't have to spend a ton of money or fuck 5 girls to have a good time in Nogi.

LOBO

Chilidog2
05-05-08, 02:07
Will be coming to Arizona in a month. Is there any action on the USA side of Nogales or do you have to cross the border and do the passport thing? If you have to cross the border, are the police aggressive as they are in TJ ?

Ed...
05-05-08, 17:22
Will be coming to Arizona in a month. Is there any action on the USA side of Nogales or do you have to cross the border and do the passport thing? If you have to cross the border, are the police aggressive as they are in TJ ?

None of the Sonora style action is available in Az. There is the AMP, however.
I've never noticed the police in TJ as being so bad, and havent ever spoke to a cop in Nogi.
Could be different now in TJ with the 'border wars', but I havent seen any shit like that here either.

Don't worry 'bout going to Nogi, Sonora.

Rightman John
05-08-08, 01:49
Going to be down in Nogi and Douglas next week working on preconstruction testing on the new border fence. I'd like to get a sampling of the fine cuisine down there, but I don't want to spend an arm and a leg. I'd really be happy with a variety of BJs from talented ladies. I have a passport so I can cross if that's the best option. Any advice from the crew experienced with that area?

Lobo003
05-08-08, 21:29
The block party goes throught the end of this weekend. Mongering was alot easier than first thought, everybody had girls available and independants walking all over the place. I had an over dose of eye candy on Saturday and junior is still recovering, but will be ready for this saturday.

Be careful if you go ,the clubs and girls are all very money hungry, the clubs especially will jack up the price on things, they don't seem to know simple economics of supply and demand. No demand for their product ie. girls so you would think they would lower their prices, not the case, they seem to be trying to make up for losses on a hand full of gringos, independants are much more flexable right now, I still get my price.

I'm doing what I can to bring the prices down after all it's our market, and I'm only one person, I have negotiated my ass off for my benefit and now yours, in any event, the clubs don't make any money off the locals if they did they would charge $2 for beer and $40 to $60 for full service.

Remember to negotiate !!!! and once your done negotiating, renegotiate.

I will touch on the psychological ins and outs of negotiating with Mexican nationals later.

LOBO

Bazooka Joe
06-03-08, 13:42
Going to be down in Nogi and Douglas next week working on preconstruction testing on the new border fence. I'd like to get a sampling of the fine cuisine down there, but I don't want to spend an arm and a leg. I'd really be happy with a variety of BJs from talented ladies. I have a passport so I can cross if that's the best option. Any advice from the crew experienced with that area?I know this is old but try checking the international forum, there is a boat load of info on Nogales and a couple of posts on Douglas and AP. try also Googling Nogales strip clubs....there is a site that comes up called mr Bill that has a lot of good info on it...

Alpha Baker
06-15-08, 02:14
Was there is Nogales last week. Early in the day. The street hustlers are everywhere. Asking you what you need? Cigars. Jewelry etc. Ran into to the right hustler and ended up at a club. In summary great service. Prices are high though. Agree with the other posts that Nogales is pricing itself out of the market especially since the daily wager there is only $10 per day and they are asking for buckets of money. Way over.priced. Agree with post that you can do just as well at dance club in Tuscon. Glad that I went though and the ladies are fabulous. Border security is tightening up. Besides two photo ID's, US border agent said next time to bring my birth certificate with me. Bottum line. Nogales is nice but charging USA prices. Have fun and do negotiate as much as possible.

Lobo003
06-15-08, 23:30
I've been reading all of your posts about the high prices in Nogales and I'm a little tired of your whinning, it's your own fault, stop thinking with your little head and use your your big brain, negotiate, then re-negotiate, get your price or walk away. I know some of you don't have the luxury of going there on a frequent basis and usually when you go, your in desperate need to have your woodie polished, but I have been trying to lay down the foundation for lower prices.

The Nogales market is our market it's designed for the US customer. Why do you think the clubs are so close to the border, demand your price or move on. Here is an example of what some of our fellow Americans have done to ruin the prices we pay, several weeks back our fellow compatriots hired 3 girls from a club and payed $450 each for take out and a grand total of $1350 US and the bouncers that told me this laughed at them behind their backs for being so gulible if they would have negotiated they could of payed $300 each. After he told me this he said that I could of had them for alot less, I know these guys probably have more money than brains, as the saying goes and if they see fit to spend that much then I guess it's their perogative to do so, but please don't ruin it for us poor folks, we need our cheap friendly latin pussy.

Currently in Nogales the street hustlers and independant girls are asking me how much I will pay, this has left me a little perplexed usually they tell you how much it will cost not the other way around, I'm down to $80 US per girl for full service one hour. They are feeling our economic crunch as well so help me and take full advantage of this situation and demand a lower price.

I was there on saturday and had a blast and my to do list just got longer.

LOBO

Mr Chub
06-20-08, 19:36
Excellent reports and info 003. I have been reading all the Nogi reports and you do a great job! I was wondering why you didn't post your reports on the ISG form?

Anyway, keep up the great work!

Mr Chub

Lobo003
06-21-08, 16:41
Thank you MR Chub for the kind words

I have started to post in the ISG board and it's probably more appropriate to do so.

On a different note I have a personal dilema with a girl in Nogi after fucking her a second time she says she wants to be my girlfriend, which by itself is fine, but how to I deny myself to all the other girls that I so much want to be with. Anyhow here is what usually happens when a girl wants to be my girlfriend, they complain that I'm cheating with other girls, jealous when I get private dances other than from her and basically spying on me they also stop fucking everybody else, thats odd for a puta, but I love it that means I don't get sloppy seconds (I have VIP exclusivity.) Your probably asking what's wrong with that, nothing I get the cake for free and eat it to (wink wink),.

I was supposed to have a date today and spend the whole day and night with her but I can't seem to get through on the phone from here to there, international calling can be a pain sometimes.

So now I have to drag my ass down there and set something up for Sunday, find some other pussy for tonight to bang. Poor, poor, pitiful me the things I do for pussy

LOBO

TylerPerelli
06-22-08, 01:01
Lobo you slay me...too funny.

If it is not too much, post BOTH here and international.

Hope I can return to both Nogi and Cabo soon...damn I forgot to post the details of my last Cabo adventure.

Happy mongering.

Bigbob69
06-24-08, 17:46
The going price I've been paying in the clubs in Agua Prieta is from a low of $30 to a Hi of $50. Times are tight and the girls know it. They will come down to the $30 without much hassle. $80 in Nogales is still why to Hi, I guess that's why I like AP.


I've been reading all of your posts about the high prices in Nogales and I'm a little tired of your whinning, it's your own fault, stop thinking with your little head and use your your big brain, negotiate, then re-negotiate, get your price or walk away. I know some of you don't have the luxury of going there on a frequent basis and usually when you go, your in desperate need to have your woodie polished, but I have been trying to lay down the foundation for lower prices.

The Nogales market is our market it's designed for the US customer. Why do you think the clubs are so close to the border, demand your price or move on. Here is an example of what some of our fellow Americans have done to ruin the prices we pay, several weeks back our fellow compatriots hired 3 girls from a club and payed $450 each for take out and a grand total of $1350 US and the bouncers that told me this laughed at them behind their backs for being so gulible if they would have negotiated they could of payed $300 each. After he told me this he said that I could of had them for alot less, I know these guys probably have more money than brains, as the saying goes and if they see fit to spend that much then I guess it's their perogative to do so, but please don't ruin it for us poor folks, we need our cheap friendly latin pussy.

Currently in Nogales the street hustlers and independant girls are asking me how much I will pay, this has left me a little perplexed usually they tell you how much it will cost not the other way around, I'm down to $80 US per girl for full service one hour. They are feeling our economic crunch as well so help me and take full advantage of this situation and demand a lower price.

I was there on saturday and had a blast and my to do list just got longer.

LOBO

Lobo003
06-24-08, 22:49
Hey Big Bob how do the girls compare in beauty from Agua Prieta to the Nogales chicas, let me know I've been wanting to make a trip down there and see for myself. The prices you stated $30 to $50 is that full service, up, down, upside down and all around or just a quicky or a quick polish, in some hole in the wall room. Here is what I expect from my girls for the price negotiated: 1 hour to 2 hours of playtime in a clean Hotel, GFE, conversation, a polish a little licking and at least poke 2 holes out of 3.

The reason I keep going to Nogales and pay my prices, not the asking prices is because in my case I feel that most of the women that come to Nogi are extremely beautiful and you can't beat the frienships I have built over the years, not just in the clubs but also outside of the clubs, so some times I pay a little premium for that experience. Beside they are still cheaper in Nogi than Tucson at $80 to $100 an experience and you don't have to worry about uncle Leo. I know they can be cheaper and I'm working on that.

By the way you can get girls for $40 to $60 US in Nogi but I wouldn't recommend them. I want quality girls.

Any and all info would be much appreciated

LOBO

Ed...
06-25-08, 23:43
You didnt ask me but..
The only place in AP to find Nogi type ladies in Scandelo's, the strip club. Last time I was there (its been a year), There was one very, very attractive girl and several nice looking ones. Nogi prices will be quoted for a half hour in a room.
The 30-50 ladies I have seen are usually pretty rough. Cruising the few bars in the area is fun enough, but I have seldom been able to hook up with some of the nicer girls I have seen. My inabilty to speak spanish well is the main problem, and usually the hotter ones have a local they don't seem too eager to leave. YMMV.
I have , however, had some great dates with average older ladies providing a great time overall. I usually get a hottie in the club, then cruise for a longer session later.
Ed...

Lobo003
06-26-08, 01:21
First off Thank you Ed for the info sounds like I'm not missing anything, but I will still go down there someday and see for myself, maybe I can steel one of the hotties from the locals and piss him off, that would be fun, I've done it in Nogi. What I really want to do is go to Hermosillo.

Reading between the lines and from reading other posts, seems to me that the quoted prices of $30-$50 US is for half hour with an older rough lady,( not my cup of tea). By my calculations that is $60-$100 for an hour, sounds like we are back in Nogi I'm sure some will go longer than 30 minutes but in my case if shes over 25 a chunky monkey and not very attractive $30 bucks is way to much, I'll stick with my expensive, outrageously overpriced lovable and fuckable honeys in Nogi.

I'm a little finicky when it comes to women if I'm going to pay good money for playtime I want slim model type girls in fact most of the hustlers inside and out of the clubs know exactly what I want and won't waste their time with less desirable girls, sorry to be so blunt but it's is my f**cking money and if they want my money they better kiss my ass and lick my boots. Ok now, I'm starting to get a little conceited, I'm just doing it for effect, but you get the point.

Update on Nogi they are hurting talked with one girl the only money she made is what the house pays her which is $20 for the night, she gave me her number and she has friends that want to work. Lust is back down to $20 for privados and starving for customers you can even take girls out of the club to a hotel for $150 for an hour with no house fee, lets see how long that lasts. I have more tidbits but thats enought for now.

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
07-05-08, 14:40
If there's enough interest in meeting up, let me know with a PM. I just got back from Vegas and am still horny enough to go to Nogie tonight (Saturday, July 5th).

Bigbob69
07-08-08, 01:00
Hey Big Bob how do the girls compare in beauty from Agua Prieta to the Nogales chicas, let me know I've been wanting to make a trip down there and see for myself. The prices you stated $30 to $50 is that full service, up, down, upside down and all around or just a quicky or a quick polish, in some hole in the wall room. Here is what I expect from my girls for the price negotiated: 1 hour to 2 hours of playtime in a clean Hotel, GFE, conversation, a polish a little licking and at least poke 2 holes out of 3.

By the way you can get girls for $40 to $60 US in Nogi but I wouldn't recommend them. I want quality girls.

Any and all info would be much appreciated

LOBOThe reason I keep going to Nogales and pay my prices, not the asking prices is because in my case I feel that most of the women that come to Nogi are extremely beautiful and you can't beat the frienships I have built over the years, not just in the clubs but also outside of the clubs, so some times I pay a little premium for that experience. Beside they are still cheaper in Nogi than Tucson at $80 to $100 an experience and you don't have to worry about uncle Leo. I know they can be cheaper and I'm working on that.

I guess I should give you a little explaination of why I like AP. I was lucky enough to have rented a small house over there and lived in AP for four years, so I guess I became a Gringo local. There was nothing that I couldn't get. The girls were quick to learn where I lived and would stop by. Over the four year period I even had a few move in and play house, even one of the better ones from Scandalus.

There are some cuties in AP, but they come and go. All in all I guess I like AP over the other border towns because I know it better and everyone knows me.

As an example the most I've paid was $100 and that was for a full night, into the morning.

If you ever want to know something about AP, just ask.

Ed...
07-09-08, 16:19
Ap is a very different experience from Nogi, and a great place to go for fun as well. Bigbob style sounds like a very good time indeed!

Typeoneg
07-19-08, 12:18
Is it safe to go alone to Nogales during the day and it there any activity?

Wild Wind
07-19-08, 20:42
Is it safe to go alone to Nogales during the day and it there any activity?Its plenty safe if you dont wander too far off the beaten path. Most of the action is in easy walking distance of the border anyway. I've walked around a lot during the day just to see the place and never had any trouble. Stick to te mongering areas and you'll be fine.

Also, look on the int'l site:http://www.internationalsexguide.info
Theres an extensive Nogales section there that a number of us have Reports of Distinction on. Good reading.

Have fun!

Lobo003
07-22-08, 03:54
I went to Nogi Saturday to have some fun, got it then some.

I wanted to check out the flood damage for my self, what a f***ing mess, big hole in the street in front of the old Lord Black building, they told me the water was 5 feet high and flooded all the way to Boleiros with minimal damage there. Google Nogales floods and see the pics for yourself. Cherries closed forever due to excessive damage and abandonment by the owners for illegal activity, the massage parlor next to it closed due to flood damage, Lord Black is open and all dried out, 69 and Boleiro also open and of course Obsessions where all the girls went after the floods. VIP was closed and I don't know why, sorry.

The entrances to the strip clubs hugging the railroad tracks where Boleiro is are closed off you will need to go around by VIP and and use the back entrance to the clubs. Local cops were everywhere and made me nervous but everything was cool, no problems with the policia.

On another point I believe I touched on a previous post was that the city of Nogales Sonora was trying to remove the strip clubs from their current location and keep it a historic zone, but now with the flood damage there is renewed talk of removing the buildings that make up are favorite locations from Cherries, Lord Black, Boleiro all the way to VIP completely demolishing them and moving the water run off channel that is now damaged right where our favorite hangouts presently reside. The talk is they want to move them to New Nogales, that's over by the Nogales Mall about a 15 to 20 minute drive into the heart of Nogales. In my opinion it's a better place, cleaner more modern, they have live concerts in the area where all of our little putitas go to have a good time. There is a more US feel, Burger king, Mcdonalds, Autozone are all located near by, the only problem is that it's a good distance away from the border, you can not walk there, you will either need to drive or take a taxi, they do have many hotels in the area I should know wink, wink.

Also, whether they decide to demolish our favorite places or not the clubs will be closed down for 2 months the decision will be made Monday July 21. I will keep you posted on their decision. On a positive note Obsessions and VIP will be flooded with girls, I don't know about 69 they will be in the middle of a construction zone.

Now the fun stuff, I just had to see Rubi after seeing her pic posted on the internationalsexguide WOW! Sh**t what a super fine young lady those eyes (I think I'm falling in love again) my friend and I had her cornered, actually he found her first and brought her over and was estatic with his find, we sandwiched her between us talked to her for a bit played with her titties and coochie, then some ugly Hoduran b**tch plopped herself down on my lap and distracted me from Rubi. By the time I excused myself to go to the mens room to get rid of mis ugly, comming back Rubi had gone, by the time I saw her again she was headed home and no she did not want to play after hours, it was her time of the month. I'll tap her the next time I see her. Damn I'm bad.

What I saw, lots of boobs, big nipples I mean big poke your eye out kind of stuff, naked pussy, hairy pussy and lots of lovely asses, former girls, future girls, girls all over the streets. My to do list just keeps getting longer every time I go there, oh well I'll just scratch them off one at a time and hope I never get ahead of myself.

Finally I crossed one of my girls off my to do list, big tits horny as hell, she was dry humping me in the club with her bare pussy and my pants were getting moist not from me but from her, she kept rubbing my grotch with her hand and getting me F**ing hard, I almost poked a hole in my pants, junior wanted to play and she wanted to meet junior. Guess what I did I introduced her to junior and she was happy, me too. She gave me a BBBJ, that's the way I like them, then she impaled herself on my pole, I guess she was pole dancing now at my expense, yeah I like that too, she had 3 orgasms while on top, that b**tch used me to get off can you believe that, I'll let it slide for now. Now it was my turn, layed her down missionary and went to town and we fucked for a while she needed to take a little break and then we went at it again this time I was standing along the bed with her in mish position, man did I make her squeal, fliped her for doggy but that didn't last she was not comfortable with that position so we went back to mish and I pounded her sweet pussy again untill she no longer could take it. She asked me how come my pussy hurts, I was confused for a second and she told me it hurts near her belly button and the entrance to her pussy and I figured it out she was sore, damn another demolished pussy and one that can't go the distance, I guess I'll have to train her for endurance fucking.

Today while writing this post I didn't realize how hard I fucked her, shit my calves, legs and pubic bone are sore, that just means, mission accomplished, another fun time in Nogi. Untill next time.

LOBO

TylerPerelli
07-23-08, 03:36
great report Lobo...keep us up to date

damn, for lack of TIME and MONEY...I am way overdue for both Tucson and Nogales.

Lobo003
07-29-08, 04:21
Status quo on the flooded repairs, no scheduled closures for now, same damage as the week before, Mexico is slow to clean up.

On a sad note we lost a girl due to a car accident, her name was Rubi. Dulce and Rubi who work at Lord Black were traveling near Hermosillo when they were involved in a terrible traffic accident. Dulce who is 18 years old and works out at a gym suffered severe injuries but still lives probably because of her strong and resilient body, I know this one personally very nice friendly girl. Rubi I'm told that I"ve met her but can not recall as of yet tragically has passed away, may she rest in peace. This paragraph is for those that knew them.

Boleiro, they really got under my skin Saturday, they all had attitudes, bouncers, waiters and girls, One girl blew me off, ouch, don't ask me what I did because I don't know, another girl was reluctant to see me because I wanted service a particular way, that is FS without a condom. I told her that I never said that, but she insisted, then I pulled out a handfull of condoms, see I play safe, all I got from her was a private dance. She was making it difficult for me to have a good time, she was a little reluctant about being touched, she's usually very fun, then I told her fuck it I won't touch you anymore, then she threw herself at me, what gives, I give up. The way things were going in there I was afraid to do anything, needless to say we couldn't get out of there fast enough. My buddy had problems with his private dance as well and three other Americans were blown off by two dancers the only reason I know, is that they made a big scene.

At another club I had a difficult time with one of my favorite girls, she knows I always get 1 1/2 hours of playtime in their accomodations. She argued with me over the extra 30 minutes, she only wanted to do 1 hour and she discussed this point with me for, get this , 1 hour !!! I kept reminding her of how long she was stuck on this point and she agreed with me, but still nothing. She told me she wanted to see if she could make more money before we went in the back room, I responded if you leave now don't return you will not make less of me. Standing up she could not go to another customer she told me she felt bad, a couple minutes passed then I placed my hands on her hips and pushed her to move on. In any event I still had fun with for an hour out in the club, massaging her, talking and of course playing with her goodies, and it didn't cost me anything. What a F**cking weird night.

As for myself I managed to have fun, I made arrangements earlier with a dancer for after work fun and she agreed. My time came and went and she did not show up, so she left me scratching my head, but somehow I knew I was going to see her again. After all the weirdness that was had this night we proceeded to check out the night clubs. While in the processes of walking to Calle Obregon I bumped into one of my street hustlers, chatted a while and I asked him what was on the menu, he said he new a couple of new girls, so on our way back from the night clubs we meet up again and informed me that they were at a night club so we doubled back to check them out. We reached the club and went inside to check it out, it was pretty nice, the name escapes me, on our exit my hustler was there with these two gorgeous girls, and guess what girl was there, the one and only girl that I had a date with earlier and stood me up. I joked with her about standing me up, at first she said she didn't think I was serious then she said she forgot, I poked some more then I got the truth she was a little apprehensive about meeting with me, she only met me that night, I guess that's forgivable.

We got a hotel and did our thing, shy, face of a magazine model, breath taking beauty, low mileage, 19 years, very inexperienced, nice full tits and super tight, junior couldn't get in, you should have seen her face evertime I tried to penetrate, she grimised and I couldn't tell if it was pain or pleasure I asked her if she was you ok she said I'm fine it's kinda of a good hurt, OK ???. We did girl on top, doggie, and mish. She would not blow me I don't think she knows how or allow me DATY, she told me nobody ever ate her, well, how about tonight, she wasn't ready. In any event I pounded that sweet hairy pussy 'till she was sore and couldn't go any longer. I got her number for a future rendezvous and to meet her friends, these girls are hot I meet super hot, hot ,hot.

I learned something knew about one of the Strip Clubs, actually it's what I found and I'm not telling untill I go through my new harem. Once I'm fat and sassy and had my fill I will spill the beans.

LOBO

Lobo003
07-29-08, 20:56
I forgot to mention that my mission for Saturday was to find Agua Prieta prices in Nogi and to see if I could also find a 2 for 1 special. I'm getting closer on the low end prices of Agua Prieta the price I found was $50 FS and my 2 for 1, found it, 2 girls for $100 FS one hour. I passed on it because they were a little on the plump side, very pretty and very doable, some other time, besides I had other plans with my newly discovered talent. She cost me $100 US, her first quote was $150 and I told her that she was crazy and way over priced, the lowest she would go was $100 I'm pretty sure she would go lower, I relented because it was getting late, besides I had the hornies.

Latest on the flood damage, seems that the city of Nogales Mex. is going to wait untill the monsoons are over to implement repairs.

Just keeping you informed.

LOBO

Scarab
08-05-08, 18:02
Just heard from a friend in Nogo that it got pounded by the monsoon again today. He says it all flooded again and the border crossing was closed. Guess you should check before heading down.

Lovebooty
08-11-08, 22:19
If any one wants to get a group together and head on down this weekend to Nogi let me know.

I have the weekind off.

TY

Lovebooty

Lobo003
08-12-08, 03:39
I tried a new hotel in Nogi called Hotel Colonial, across the street from VIP, fantastic accommodations super clean, great air conditioning, a lot like american hotels except they are not girl friendly. I managed to walk in with my date, first because it was early in the day and second she was with me getting the room, they also told me no extra company allowed. Later on that evening they had a doorman guarding the entrance, nice gentleman very friendly, but he seen me walking with some of the street hustlers and then comming back from the VIP strip club, he gave me a funny look witch made me uneasy. I tried to hookup with another girl that evening I was 30 yards from the entrance to the hotel in my hustlers car making my deal, I tried but no cigar. I was trying a new trick with the girls I told them that I only had X ammount of dollars left from all my spending that evening, they wanted their usuall $100 I told them $70 they first said no then they asked for how long, I told them 1 1/2 hours they through a fit, they negotiated down to 1 hour for $100 and I said no and I started to exit the car, they countered with 40 minutes for $70 I started walking, then they agreed to one hour for $70 I told them to forget it and told my hustler to take them home. My point for doing this is to bring prices down, I've just phsychologically set these girls mind up for $70. Besides, to much haggling means to much trouble in bed. Also To much bitching makes a weinie go limp where's the fun in that.

I don't recommend Hotel Colonial if your going to get multiple girls for the night, however if your doing an all nighter with one girl then it's a great place to stay.

It's a bit expensive for Nogales at $56 for the night, and they want to hold an ID card untill you check out. So my overall recommendation for this hotel for mongering is a very strong NO!

Hotel Granada is closed.

The street were all the strip clubs are still looks like a war zone, up around hotel 47 the street looks like a river bed with flowing water, muddy as hell.

All the regular clubs are open and operating, Lust is dead right now, no girls and no customers this is were I found, by comming in for the day shift my little stash of new girls, they are all gone and not working anymore, but I got their numbers and they are young of legal age and oh so deliciously tight I get goose bumps just thinking about them. I wonder who I will call next week? Oh yeah! I know who. I'm such a dirty bastard.

On another note I was offered a partnership to open a massage parlor in Nogi, Hmmm, I'll have to do some investigating and deep thinking on this. You mongers just might have an american friendly enterprise down there, just don't hold your breath there's to many things that can go wrong. Most importantly for me free girls, . Yeah baby, that's what I'm talking about!

LOBO

Lobo003
08-18-08, 04:19
Our poor US economy is really hurting the Mexican tourist economy, I was talking to several hustlers and they told me that it's real bad for them right now, one even said that he has not sceen it this bad in the past 6 years that he has been living there. I told him to tell the girls to drop their prices and more Gringos would come. He agreed with me that the girls were over priced.

Women are cheap if you know where and whom to talk to. My latest appetizers were 2 girls one 18 and the other 21 years old, super adorable and tight at $70 US each ( the girls tipped out $15 each to the hustler so they actually received $55 each). Cost for these honeys $140 for 2 girls $10 tip to hustler $25 for hotel total $175 for the pair, does not include the cost of gas. See, my tactics are working don't be afraid to negotiate. I finally got my hustlers inline with my prices.

Boleiro, I think the management is going to price themselves right out of business, they raised the prices on all drinks .50 cents, it's still managable, but privados are $25.30, don't ask me were they got the .30 cents, and after you tip the guy downstairs your pushing $30 for the dance, to fu*cking much, besides they are still very aggresive with you buying a girl a drink, if the waiters have not managed to upsell to a drink in 3 attempts, management pulls her from you. I think there will be an exodus of dancers from this club based on the gripes I heard from the girls.

A little insight on Boleiro:

If you have a girl you like and are getting along with her and you want her to stick around, by her a drink on the waiters third attempt.

The girls are only supposed to hang around for two songs per purchased drink to her. Keep her busy and stretch that drink out, as long as there is liquid in the girls drink they won't bother you.

You don't want to buy her a drink, maybe you'll buy a dance? when the waiters try to upsell to a drink just tell them your going to do a privado and to give you a little time for introductions. This little trick has worked wonders for me in this club. If you don't really want a privado just come up with some excuse, lame or otherwise.

If you don't know what you are buying or what they are communicating always say NO!!!

Want full service never agree to the girls first offer always counter and make her wait. This applies to all clubs.

Always buy a drink for yourself and if you don't want another drink leave a little at the bottom of the glass ,bottle etc. This will keep them off your back.

These are just s few tips for happy partying in Boleiros.

One peculiar thing I have noticed with the clubs in Nogi is that from time to time the popularity of certain clubs changes, right now Boleiro is holding on to a precarious lead, but to me it appears that Obsessions is prepared to dethrown Boleiro. Many years ago the old Lord Black was hot, then Placers was the place to be, (the new Lord Black), 69 was pretty hot for awhile. That is what I like about south of the border entertainment, it stays fresh.

Obsessions was hot last Saturday plenty of the girls from Boleiro were working there plus many new ones.

69 was closed, I don,t have any info

Many girls available outside the clubs and all were idle and desperately wanting work.

My recommendations is to patronize Obsessions and Lord Black and if we did that most girls would want to work there. They have the most relaxed atmosphere, easy going and cool wait staff. Followed by Lust ,they are a kind of up and down club, sometimes they will be pushy other times thay are not, their girl quality has been fluctuating, lately it's been a hit and miss scenario.

I hope this helps. Just doing my 2 cents

LOBO

Joachim
08-31-08, 01:42
I rarely contribute to these forums since my lifestyle frankly doesn't give me much opportunity to partake. I've posted before on the Vegas and Chicago-area boards. I'm a regular reader though, especially when going on the road. Last week I had the chance to travel on business to Phoenix, and as luck would have it, to connect with a buddy for three days/nights in Nogales. I am very grateful to Lobo and to all the other posters on this forum: you guys made our weekend, and it was without parallel one of the best sexfests I've ever had in my life. Just want to give back here, and let you know what we encountered.

I will tell you guys right now that we didn't negotiate too hard on prices: money fortunately isn't an issue right now for either of us, but we did not, of course, accept any "initial offers": never paid more than $140 for a salida out of the club to a room, and never more than $120 for sex in a privado. I have always felt that lap dances are a waste of fucking time: literally; when I find what I want, I want to get right to it. So, while we didn't help drive prices down, we certainly helped the local economy: bought a ton of drinks for a ton of girls, and tipped a ton of held-out hands. Even helped the touts when it made sense to.

1) Friday nite: Lord Black
I got a take out (salida) from "Ixtel" (I think that's it): involved being escorted by the waiter (or whatever the hell those guys call themselves) to a hotel just down the block and out the back entrance, after I paid the club guy an additional $20 for the room (no money paid to the hotel directly). Great enthusiastic girl: very sincere, friendly, pliable, and a tight thin body.
My buddy hooked up with "Perla" : describes a classic PSE with a slightly chubby but very eager chick who reportedly came noisily and messily.
Ixtel: 7 Cecilia:6

2) saturday afternoon: Obsessions
We spent pretty much all afternoon. I took "Juana" from Sinaloa to a hotel across the street: an additional forty-something for that room, which was then mine for the rest of the night. (I didn't have a need for it, as we had a place across the border, so I let the girl have it.) Juana was dynamite: a little chunkier than I like them (for the record, I dig thin, natural (ie, big bush, no fake tits) girls), but kept my no-longer-twenty-something ass going for a couple of hours.
My buddy was pretty much smitten with Cecilia; did two privados with her in the club: FS both times. These were two very nice, cool girls and we hung out with them for quite a while. Club is undergoing extensive renovation, apparently related to influx of money since the other clubs are having so many problems since the flood: per the girls and the manager, the owner is positioning himself to have Obsessions be THE prime club in the area. Many more rooms/services.
Juana: 6, Cecilia: 8

3) Saturday nite: Lust
I hooked up with a petite spinner (can't believe I've forgotten her name) as soon as I came in; she was on me like white on rice. Quickly arranged for a salida, again with staff escort to the "massage spa" just south of the club on the same street, for an hour. Very nervous and new to this: not an easy lay, but absolutely gorgeous; I'd call her a 10.
My buddy hooked up with another 10, but it was a pretty long nite, and I can't recall what he told me of the encounter.

4) Sunday nite: Boleiros
We had honestly avoided this club, based on Lobo's reports, and on Sunday we tried to find Placers, Fernis, and a couple of others I'd read about. Were told they're all gone, so ended up in Boleiro's after all. Honestly, it was a great experience: certainly NO more pressure/hassle from the staff than anywhere else. Then again, we did not spend a lot of time chatting girls up before getting a privado or salida, so we were well liked.
I had two girls here: first Jacqueline, who came on aggressively as soon as I came in. A little long in the tooth (heavily made up) blond, but a very tight, thin body with a dynamite ass: that's what got me. Got a privade downstairs in the basement on one of the chairs: those things are always awkward for me, which is why I like the salidas so much more, but she made it work. 6 for looks, A for effort.
Then I asked the waiter to find me a natural girl (with at least a little bush): immediately, I've got 5-6 girls coming over and showing me their pussies by lighter-lite: it was fucking hilarious! I felt like I was auditioning porn stars.
Ended up spending a long night with Jessica: got a salida and a little later on a privado downstairs. Definitely the high point of the trip: this chick had a tight little body and was very enthusiastic, albeit a little superficial at times (not the best actress I've seen). She was a 9.
My buddy spent the whole evening with Alondra, whose eagerness has been documented elsewhere on this board in some detail: his experience was IDENTICAL, down to the "dios mio" cries. Another very tasty 9, beautiful smile.

A couple of other notes:
The previously flooded area is still a huge mess: sandbags and gaping holes in many places, lots of mud/puddles. We heard from several people that the "president" of Nogales wants to use the occasion to permanently close all the clubs across the tracks near the border, and move them all to the Mariposa Rd border crossing area. Others told us that will never happen, because the Sonora government has a stake in some clubs. Who knows? The whole scene was definitely slower than I had anticipated: we were frequently the only yanquis in the clubs, and there were a ton of girls sitting idly, bored shitless, everywhere we went. Lobo's clearly right that the local economy is hurting: we were there the weekend before classes started at ASU and U of A, apparently, and I figured the clubs would be crowded. My impression is that it would definitely be possible to negotiate much lower prices for all services if you were so inclined. My spanish was adequate, but not for extended negotiations!

Also, a US passport is now officially required for reentry to the US. My buddy did not bring his, and every trip back across "la linea" involved more hassle/questions than we wanted: nothing heavy, but just be advised. Having a passport let me slide thru easily everytime. Of course, going into Mexico remains as simple as walking to your car after work.

We parked every time in the McDonalds lot listed on the board, $4 each time. No problems at all.

Lots of hassle/pressure from the touts and street guys: I'm not good at dismissing people rudely, but my buddy is, and that seemed to be what it took a couple of times. Didn't see any clear-cut SW's: the guy in Boleiros said that the police are bugging them more, and the action is largely in the clubs.
Honestly, when the clubs are this easy, who gives a shit?

Just want to thank you senior members for all the posts: we had printed out the "reports of distinction". served us well, and we had a blast. I am tired and happy.

Lobo003
08-31-08, 17:50
Joachim,

Way to go !!! I'm glad you and your friends had a great time and that my post as well as fellow posters helped. That's what its all about, I hope you visit Mexico again soon.

LOBO

TylerPerelli
09-01-08, 22:16
Nice report, Joachim.

Lobo003
09-14-08, 23:36
I should have of reported this about two weeks ago and I appoligize, the drug cartels have been terrorizing Nogales Sonora for control of the city just like in Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez. Various gun battles have occured and murders mostly with each other, Dubay night club was threatened and closed 2 weeks ago, the night life has slowed to a crawl all the local citizens are paniced and scared. There was a big article in our local newspaper Sept 14 2008 so the locals know the cituation down south. Mongers who come from other parts of the nation or countries please be advised of the cituation and be safe if you attempt to travel to Nogales Sonora. I will probably travel to Nogi mid week for day shopping and some play time and will probably go Saturday night, so I will keep you posted on how things are progressing there.

Be safe.

LOBO

Pie4me
09-16-08, 15:39
Are things closed down for the festivities this week?

Lobo003
09-22-08, 03:34
The peoples feelings with regard to the drug wars is much more calm everybody is out and about, a little apprehensive with the situation and moving forward with their lives. I was told that one of the drug cartels has pretty much gained control over Nogales, so things should start to calm down. The clubs are open althought the dance club Dubay is very poorly attended due to their bomb scare several weeks back.

First time in my life that I heard gun fire in Nogales Sonora, it was in the distance but no doubt gun fire.

The cops are starting to become a problem especially with the locals, they are randomly stopping cars and inspecting the cars and occupants, I can't argue with their tactics especially with the drug war. I didn't see them mess with any tourist but I expect it will spill over. The locals tell me the cops are taking advantage of the drug problem and profiting by stopping cars and people and shaking them down with the purpose of getting money.

I provide this information so that you may make a informed decision as to your travels.

No more gloom, now the good stuff:

All the strip clubs are extremely slow, very minimal street action in the normal places all the girls are crying for money and yet they still quote their inflated prices, go figure.

Obsessions is still in the middle of their remodeling, I chatted with the owner and he said he traveled to Tucson to get ideas for his club and he really liked Curves Cabaret, so now based on what I'm seeing we are going to have a Curves type club in Nogi.

All the clubs have increased the price of their drinks and dances. Lord Black charged me $26 for a privado and I tipped the guy $2, $28 for a privado I don't think so, I personally will not buy any more private dances at any clubs with exception of one. If you go down their with the attitude that money is no problem then have at it and party like there is no tommorrow, but as for me I'm done with private dances. I don't get it, their economy is in the shit hole, there is no money from the Mexicans and none from the Americans and they raise their prices. I think it's time for me to find another town in Mexico to party in, I'll keep an eye out.

The only one that has a grasp on reality is Lust, normal priced drinks, decent price for the girls, very accomodating relaxed atmosphere. They have $10 privados and they are f**king long dances. Itty bitty rooms but for $10 bucks, a mouth full of titties and some hot pussy, sign me up. I just wish he would get more and prettier girls in there.

Ok now for my play thing this past Saturday 20 something slim about a solid 7 small titties and a furry coochie cost me $60 for an hour, hows that for some cheep hot coupling. She gave me CBJ, mish, doggy and girl on top and I fingered her untill she was wet and ready whitch didn't take to long, she said she hadn't had a guy in about 2 weeks and she wanted some man meet and tight, damn I like a tight coochies. I met her at a little taco restaurant, not them portable ones you see on the corners, she was there having supper, we greeted when I entered and I didn't think much of it. While I was munching on my tacos little by little she got the courage to talk to me and approached me with her services I kept blowing her off and told her I was not interested I was tired and was getting ready to go home, it was almost 3am, she would walk out the door then come back in and smile then crack a joke then stair at me and I still said no, this went on for about 20 minutes. She finally came and told me here's my prices if your interested and I still blew her off. By now her personality was winning me over, once I was done eating she invited me into a taxi to convince me and to check out the merchandise, needless to say I checked and checked and checked and we agreed to $60 for one hour full service. I like my foreplay Ha, Ha that was fun.

Here are some tips for you mongers out there who venture into Nogi. Tip #1 taco restaurant, semi outdoor, fantastic fresh carne asada tacos (steak tacos) $1. 50 each very good eating stay away from the salsa, also a good place to hook up with girls leaving work. Some stop in and a lot of them walk right by there after work, time to be their 3am. Its located between the massage parlor and VIP strip club.

Tip #2 Night club Codigo (bar, dance) a lot of working girls hang out there, it's kind of their base of opperation.

Tip#3 Hang out along Calle Obregon near the dance clubs and if you look like a gringo the girls of all ages will hit on you, Also many working girls walk the street back and forth looking for work. I counted 8 some I all ready new others were new to me, most of them wanted $80 to $100 for playtime.

Tip#4 New massage parlor open, the same one I was invited to be a partner with, I however backed out so I have no financial interest in this enterprise. He's a good friend of mine and I thought I would try to throw him some business, because he is really hurting. Location: right before hotel Olivia, same side of the street on Calle Obregon right next to the hot dog stand, if your not looking for it you will miss it.

Have fun in Nogi

LOBO

TylerPerelli
09-23-08, 09:15
Thanks for the updates, Lobo.

Sexhobbyist
09-23-08, 12:39
I will be posting a different view on the violence taking place in Nogales on my website tomorrow, 9/24. It does affect the clubs, the tourists, and the Americans. I will not go there alone any more.
Sexhobbyist

Lobo003
09-24-08, 00:14
I'm in the mood for sharing so I decided to provide you guys with photos of some of my little friends.

Sexhobbyist
09-28-08, 15:46
Nogales is a mess. I got a report from a buddy who was there Friday night. The clubs were nearly deserted. The asking price for sex was up! These third-world countries just don't get it. When you want to stimulate (no pun intended) business, you lower the price not raise it. No wonder they're a second-rate economy.

Anyway....

Apparently the drug wars aren't over. While visiting two clubs, the Mexican army came in and began questioning the dancers and customers. They asked for ID...including the Americans. The action was shut down for about a half hour in each club while this was going on.

My buddy said that there is no street action for sex now. He saw small groups (gangs?) of locals with weapons cruising the streets.

So...

Things are still unsettled in Nogales. The philosophy of the clubs seems to be, "Hey, let's get the gringos down here to help out with the economy by RAISING the prices!"

Idiots. No more bailout for you guys!
Sexhobbyist

Ed...
09-29-08, 20:03
I don't doubt your friend SH, it's odd but I spent most of the day Friday untill Saturday eve in Nogi without event. (except the usual sex stuff)
I spent some time in the clubs but mostly around the north side of town.

The bars are slower but that's to the advantage of the few patrons there.
I have heard of the feds coming in to the clubs-mostly in TJ- but still havent experienced it myself. I did see more plenty more feds around than usual, but absolutely no gang type local driving around openly with weapons...

I havent paid attention to any prices quoted in Nogi for years, 150-max- take out is all I do or pay now. They have been idiots in marketing for a long time in that town.

I'm not suggesting anybody go there, it sure isnt the norm yet, defineatly less the the nearly 100 percent safe it used to be. Still, if you know your way around and have a repore with anybody outside the club, it's not all that fucked up.

Ed...

Lobo003
09-29-08, 21:47
The drug violence crimes have been happening all my life, I spent a large part of my life in Guadalajara Mexico reading and hearing about beheadings, shootings kidnappings and in the Mexican papers they are very explicit with their photos. Three houses from my mothers house 20 or so years ago there was a shooting over drugs which turned into revenge killings for over 2 years and ended up costing the lives of 3 sons for one familiy. So what's happening in Nogales Sonora is nothing new I just advise caution when traveling there, besides by being freightened on your travels into Nogi or Mexico for that matter you have fallen into the drug cartels only and best weapon that is the weapon of...FEAR. Read your own newspapers and tell me if there is no crime in your town. I for one think that Tucson is far more dangerous than Nogi.

I'm not advocating that you go or stay home I personally can not guarantee your safety that is your responsibility. As for my self I will continue to go to Nogi day or night alone or with friends besides I have too many aquaintances to just abandon. I for one will not live in fear and I will not let some thugs push me around !!!

Mexico does get it, Americans are gringos, you got money and they are going to try to rip you a new hole whether you like it or not. That's the ways things have been since my childhood and will continue after my death. They know you want pussy or some other product and they are going to charge you for your fun unless you have experience in dealing with Mexicans. As for the military presence be glad thay are there, they keep things in check especially the police, all the locals are happy when the military arrives. The street action is still there it's just moved...READ MY F**KING POSTS.

Anyhow, if you guys stay away I will get all the cheap putas. (He, He) especially this comming weekend. Its birthday weekend and I'm going to try to line up multiple girls, 6 at the same time is my goal depending on finances and girl prices, Wish me luck.


To quote a famous phrase
"We have nothing to fear by fear it's self"


I will keep you updated and informed with unbiased reports about Nogi.

American the beautiful, VIVA Mexico and damn proud to be multi cultural.

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
09-29-08, 22:06
I don't doubt your friend SH, it's odd but I spent most of the day Friday untill Saturday eve in Nogi without event. (except the usual sex stuff)
I spent some time in the clubs but mostly around the north side of town.

The bars are slower but that's to the advantage of the few patrons there.
I have heard of the feds coming in to the clubs-mostly in TJ- but still havent experienced it myself. I did see more plenty more feds around than usual, but absolutely no gang type local driving around openly with weapons...

I havent paid attention to any prices quoted in Nogi for years, 150-max- take out is all I do or pay now. They have been idiots in marketing for a long time in that town.

I'm not suggesting anybody go there, it sure isnt the norm yet, defineatly less the the nearly 100 percent safe it used to be. Still, if you know your way around and have a repore with anybody outside the club, it's not all that fucked up.

Ed...

Thanks for your perspective, Ed. The report I got was from a long-time monger friend. I wouldn't mind going down there to see for myself especially now that there's no competition for all that pussy. But I'd rather not go alone. PM if you want to meet up.
SH

Ed...
10-05-08, 10:23
"I wouldn't mind going down there to see for myself especially now that there's no competition for all that pussy." -SH


Yea, unless Sexhobbyist is there!
Thanks for the offer, I'd like that. It may not be untill around Christmas before I can 'plan' to go, most of my travels are north now.

Ed...

Lobo003
10-06-08, 00:27
I went down to Nogales Sonora early Saturday about 4pm, purposely looking for problems and to get a perspective from daylight to night time in hopes that I could be witness to any problems with gangs, drug wars etc... and report back what took place. Guess what nothing, and I strolled the area from 4pm to 4:30am and walked to the super market vh, that is a long ass walk. The worst that I could find was some drunk voimiting on the street in front of me, yuk!!!. There is an increase of police presence on foot and bikes.

I chatted with my Pharmacist friend and a few other merchants and asked them about the economy and the drug cartels, In regards to the economy, mexican sales are about the same and are not, I repeat NOT DEPENDANT ON AMERICAN SALES there is however a significant decline to US purchasers, as for the drug cartels, they are a nuisance and don't really effect the everyday lives of Mexican citizens.

I did here some more horror stories about the drug war but I will keep them from you in hopes that I don't add any more to the hysteria any further, besides the drug war is just among themselves. I specifically asked has there been any problems where we mongers hang out, there have not been any incidents near or around the strip clubs.

In my opinion, I looked for trouble (would you believe that, an American looking for trouble in Mexico) and found none I felt safe and never once did I ever come across anything out of the ordinary. It appears that everything is normalizing, the locals are getting used to the idea of the drug wars and are moving forward with theirs lives. This is in no way an endorsment for safety in Mexico, but If you travel there always be careful.

Now the good stuff: 2 unbelievable girlfriend experiences and 2 BBBJs.

First, the usuall stuff the clubs are slow and the girls are bitching, the street action was slow due to the Fietas de Magdalena. A pilgramige from Nogales Sonora to Magdalena Sonora with a large festival in that town. Damn I missed it again.

I didn't make my quota of girls that I had planned but I did end up with two super girl friend experiences, oh no... I just might have 2 more girl friends.
The first one was a nice little petite spinner, cute as a button small titties and a hot couchie and very eager to get porked. She's the type of latina I like a tapatia from Guadalajara I just seem to get along extremely
well with girls from there. I found her in a club and got her to come over for a little chat, no sooner than she sat down that she started to hug and kiss me, I mean this was extreme she had her tongue so far down my throat that I swore I was getting my tonsils removed and the hugs I thought I had a parasitic twin. I convienced her to come to my room which wasn't to hard, so she sneeked out of work and payed me a visit. In the room we laid on the bed for a good 15 minutes just hugging and kissing and deep frenching, I think she had chicken and rice and a coke for supper, let me get some more tongue and be sure, Ha Ha, finally we began to undress, slowly with alot of hugging and kissing, did I tell you there was alot of hugging and kissing. Finally she made it to my baby maker at full attention and she began a wonderful bare back blow job, damn she was good but my other girl was better. Our little wrestling match consisted of doggie, mish, girl on top a little daty and a whole lot of fuckie fuckie and tight I was having trouble getting junior in again I porked her untill she got sore and her orgasms, wow! they were fun to watch she trembled uncontrollably. We went at it for 1 1/2 hours cost me $100.

Girl two ,she is someone that I allready know and has been out of town for a while back at home. Last night was her first day back and she was trying to find work in the clubs and I just happen to be at the right place at the right time. We chatted for a while catching up and she hinted for a little play time and of course I agreed my only problem was I was going to have my first rendezvous in 45 minutes I told her to give me a couple of minutes to think about the time, I made her think I just wanted to hang out for a while so we agreed on a time. She arrived at my hotel 5 minutes late and I am thankful for that because I had just finished up and said goodbuy to my first girl, damn FIVE #$@*&^% minutes to recharge my batteries, needless to say I went slow when she was in the room. We hugged and kissed alot, like some long lost old lovers welcoming each other back into our arms,(I'm starting to hear violins). Undressed she grabs a hold of my pecker locks her lips around my shaft and begins to suck the shit out of it bare back, 30 to 40 minutes must have passed before she told me that she now wanted to be fucked. This girl loves to suck cock I told her how about a little longer and she ablidged and this time she changed her technique, she had me wiggling around and I was about ready to blast but I held back, this girl is my all time BJ queen. Now! she demanded to be fucked, and me being the good little male stud I complied, first she mounted me girl on top and guess what another tight fit she had to wiggle it in, I love to see their faces when I split them wide open, I get a kick and a big grin on my face when I see that. After she impaled herself on my woodie she started to gush like someone opened up a water faucet, she got me and the sheets all wet. We did girl on top, doggie, mish,daty and alot of suckie and fuckie. We went at it for 1 1/2 hours more or less cost me $100.

The receptionist at the hotel wanted to join in but is not allowed, she made a date with me to go dancing, she's not really my type but I may take her up on it or I'm going to have to change hotels. I'll through her a bone. wink wink.

Be safe...

LOBO

Beatles9
10-07-08, 01:22
What is the Morning/Midday Action like there. I have a Dentist appointment down that way and might want to explore someone else's mouth!

Ciao!

A.C.

Sexhobbyist
10-07-08, 19:46
The clubs don't open until afternoon/evening. Some don't open until 8 pm. There used to be a day club, but they closed. The only thing available early is on the street, if you can find it.
SH


What is the Morning/Midday Action like there. I have a Dentist appointment down that way and might want to explore someone else's mouth!

Ciao!

A.C.

Lobo003
10-07-08, 21:11
Obsessions opens at 12 noon, new hours, most of the other clubs start around 2pm.

Most girls come out at night unless you have a girl or a street hustlers number.

LOBO

Beatles9
10-08-08, 21:54
Had a Dentist appointment in Nogales today. So decided to make a run at Phoenix and Tucson, They both sucked, so I headed down to Nogales a little earlier than expected.

Arrived last night. Crossed the border at about 2300hrs with only a beer or two in mind, nothing else. Step into this Bar across from the "Pancho Villa" Bar and start mingling with a very attractive girl singing Karaoke. Just having a good time. I had a few and left.

On the way back to the border, I'm kinda ripped and some guy starts talking to me about girls (his name is "Negro", I say I'll pass, but I need another drink. He asks me to let him take me to a Strip Club because he gets a "Finders Fee". I agree and off we go. He takes me to "69". May have been "069", I don't quite remember.

My strip club experiences are very limited, but I wasnt expecting some girl to walk up and grab my junk right off the bat! Her name was "Barbie", slim blonde from Chihuahua (7 on a 1-10). I get a dance her and wasnt expecting her to stick the meat sleeve in my face, so I obliged with a few licks. We're off to a good start

Next is an 18 year old girl who just started dancing. "Darlene" is a little bit thicker, but sweet and soft with a very lovely voice. An all in all beautiful girl (8. 5 in my opinion). Her dancing skills are lacking, but she is very cute and seems to have a fun personality, which Is hindered by the absolute lack of English.

Rafael, the guy in the tie, brought a few girls my way after that but I wasnt impressed. Voice is very important to me and the rest of the girls sounded like West Virginia coal miners on their 3rd pack of Lucky Strikes. Rafael tells me he has the girl for me and we hop in his car and go to "Obsession. "

Once entering, he flags over a girl names "Dana". A very sexy burnette (I'm gonna say 9. 5) with an amazing body. She sits down and she is a very very sensual girl, so of course, I let her talk me into a dance. We walk in the booth and next thing I know, after three dances, she asks me to take her to the private room. It took me about 3 seconds to decide I need to get laid before going back to Iraq next week, So away we go.

I lay down in this ratty fuckin' room with possibly the most uncomfortable bed of all time. I make her straddle my face and grind on my tongue, she loves it. On comes the Condom, she blows me, gets me hard and I bend her over. She has about a perfect ass, and alot tighter than I expected. I finish up and walk out. Rafael, a bartender and another guy are there applauding, cause they knew it was my first time in a Strip Club. I turn red and away I go.

It was fun, Dropped about 450 in the course of the night.

"Dana" has text messaged me 4 times since I left. 12 hours ago.

Ciao! Dimes McDropperson

Suave 1998
10-09-08, 01:07
Would it be safe to go solo?

I want to venture down there but don't have any friends who would be interested in coming.

Any suggestions?

Lobo003
10-09-08, 02:31
Suave.
I go there alone all the time but I do know the area and I know most everyone, I do feel safe. If it's your first time stay close to the clubs on well lit streets and if you do go at night I would suggest you visit Obesssions first, that way the street hustlers, tauts, etc can find you and escort you around to other clubs.

Beatles.
Glad you had a good time in Nogi and with DANA, fairly decent english and oh so f**king hot you had to remind me about her ass. She is However one of the more expensive girls.
Be safe in Iraq

LOBO

Beatles9
10-13-08, 23:33
Beatles.

Glad you had a good time in Nogi and with DANA, fairly decent english and oh so f**king hot you had to remind me about her ass. She is However one of the more expensive girls.

Be safe in Iraq

LOBOLobo,

Expensive or not, It was worth, especially going to Iraq... Might as well have fun while I can! HAHAHA

Ciao!

AC

Lobo003
10-14-08, 20:19
Beatles,

Any girl no matter how much you pay is always well worth it, I'm glad you had fun. The expensive comment was for the other readers it really wasn't meant for you, sorry about the confusion.

Once again be safe in Iraq,
I'm assunming you're in the military and if you are I just want to thank you for your service to our great country. If we ever meet in the future drinks are on me.

LOBO

Lobo003
10-15-08, 07:06
U.S. State Department's issues "travel alert" for Nogales. I don't want to scare anyone only to inform you . I myself will still travel there.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/metro/262486.php

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
10-15-08, 19:47
About damn time, if you ask me.
With the club action the way it is in Tucson, there's no need to travel to Nogales and waste your gas, time, and money.


U.S. State Department's issues "travel alert" for Nogales. I don't want to scare anyone only to inform you . I myself will still travel there.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/metro/262486.php

LOBO

Lobo003
10-21-08, 03:24
I've never seen it so quiet in Nogales on a Saturday, Calle Obregon is usually busy with lots of action, very few people making the social rounds ,there was a musical group in town, so I'm sure that had some impact, however there was plenty of cruising up and down the street in their cars. Plenty of police presence with random car inspection.

Street action was almost non existant, 3 Americans did get lucky with some street girls I think they found them in a back alley near Obsessions, not ones that I would recommend and only a handfull of Americans were taking in the sites. Most of the American regulars were in attendance including myself some I know real well, others by sight only.

The clubs were slow, dance as well as TDs, Obsessions was very busy and their remodeling is comming along nicely, 3 stages one main and 2 smaller, they seem to be trying to emulate Lust with there special girl dances, I witnessed a girl on girl finger and lickathon. They have also built 2 very nice VIP rooms one with it's own pole, nice seating, good A/C and privacy. October 31 Holloween night for those that are interested from 8-10 pm they will have an open bar and other specials that evening.

The other TDs across the tracks looked like a ghost town. I walked into Lust late in the evening and I was the only customer for about 1 hour plus needless to say everyone was hounding me for money. They were giving me prices of $130 for full service trying to entice me to get a girl, I didn't bite, what I might of paid after negotiating with them, who knows? She was pretty. Besides I was having fun playing with their titties and pussy and they were playing with my package.

Lord Black extremely dead, poor quality girls. One good thing happen there I met a very nice female customer, we hit it off real well and we will be getting together real soon. Does that mean no more mongering for me, hmmmm, hmmmm. Nah!!! Maybe? I don't know, time will tell.

Finally walked into studio 69 after a long absence due to their high prices and smug attitude. Guess what with a slow economy and lack of customers their prices and attitude are still the same this was also another club where they were hovering around me like vultures waiting to devour me, (not going to happen!!!) Management continually presured me to do something with a girl. There were only 4 customers and all girls were bored to death and half asleep, one nice thing about walking into studio 69 was that all except 2 girls present, I've had the good fortune of pleasuring them, there were a lot of memories floating around in there, mind you I did not meet them in studio 69.

I did not make it to Boleiro so no update. I can take a guess, buy no drink for chica in 3 songs she's out of there, no dance she's out of there. I don't know about you guys but for myself I'm not to fond of Boleiro, to many rules.

All in all Nogi was very quiet no violence, no gangs zilch, nada, nothing I left at 4:30 am walking by my little 'ole self, The worst I found were beggers looking for some pocket change, needless to say I ran out of pocket change real quick.

As far as girls go I ended up with nothing this week it was more of a recon mission, not looking for anything and at the same time looking for everything. I did have the opportunity for 3 girls, one was to tired, the other one was leaving town the next day and needed to get some sleep and the 3rd one well I didn't return to Lust to order take out. Oh well next time. I spent to much time BS ing with friends.

Note: If you go down to Nogi expect to be hounded, hovered around and presured to do something, more so now than before and they will even sit near you waiting for your decision, how rude, especially if the club is slow.

LOBO

Lobo003
10-24-08, 06:01
Here's an update on the gloomy side of Nogales 7 dead and 5 injured. Read it and make your plans accordingly. I hope this means that the girls will be cheaper.

http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=9231772

LOBO

Lobo003
10-28-08, 21:51
This past Saturday was fairly quiet even after the big shootout on thursday, the people and the town were pretty normal, they are a little upset, actually they are extremely f**king upset with the drug cartels and sick and tired with their presence. They are happy and pleased that the cops are being very vigilant and doing their jobs.

Activity is a little slow but some girls are starting to peak their heads out and look for work. I found street walkers for $60, $50 and $40 US, see desperation is bringing prices down.

The clubs were slower than usual I walked into Obsessions first and I was the only customer for 2 hours I found a couple of nice girls to talk too and had a great time. I returned later, late in the evening and it picked up, I asked one of the girls how much for full service, $180 was her price. I knew this was going to happen the slower the clubs become the more they will charge I told her that it was f**king to much and your to damn expensive. She said I'm worth it, not for $180 your not.

Boleiro was next fairly quiet for a saturday about 7-10 customers and 5 of them were americans. I chatted with a few girls, not long mind you because of their numerous rules, anyhow I got a dance from one of the girls, prices for dances are down again, she gave me a very good dance and kept asking me if I wanted to do more so I asked how much, she quoted $180, what the f*ck, are those women crazy, needless to say I told her it was way to much and she responded you have alot of money and are rich and I told her what does that have to do with anything I'm not going to be price gauged and pay way to much for her service no matter how much money I have. Her counter was $170 I told her to forget it.

Lord Black dead as a door knob poor quality women.

69 nice selection of women, I walked in late at night usually when it get really busy, I was the only customer in there for a whole hour and half. One good thing about it was I was the center of attention, however same bullshit with the girls $200 asking price, f**cking rediculous most of them were half asleep again.

Lust I do have to say that they did have some really nice new girls and I know were they are getting them from I'll touch back on that subject later, anyhow there were 4 really super nice girls 3 of them were dressed in street cloths and at first I thought they were customers and later found out when they brought one over, that she was actually a working girl, not a dancer but she did everything else meaning private dances and full service and they were all 18-19 years old with tight bodies. I tried to negotiate for 3 girls, first I was quoted $150 US per girl, with some negotiating I got it down to $130, I was shooting for $50 to $100 per girl based on one of the reports posted here. They told me that was not enough and I told them that they were way to expensive especially with the economic climate, so I walked and they got nothing. These clubs really pissed me off this night, inlight of what happen between me and them they might reconsider next time. Next time I'm going to make them really beg me to spend my money, I'm going to be a f**cking hard ass, they allready do that now and it's really irritating, but just for kicks I'm going to make them squirm.

Back to what I touched on earlier about where lust is getting their girls after talking with the girls and BSing with them they let there guard down and finally started to laugh and smile and thats when I got my information. Management is finding their new girls from casas de citas,( bordellos, escorts, cat houses just to give you an idea as to what I'm talking about) these places are not near our favorite location along the border and usually the girls work in the inner city which means we never see them, in the past I have come across madams who provide girls and even visited a location by means of a street hustler, but was never able to connect the two together.

I did some research and found 2, I got the addresse, but I do not know were they are located in Nogi. I will investigate this further and keep you posted.

Finally, just as I thought, that with the slow down in the economies the clubs were going to be hard asses with their prices, and I know how the minds of Mexicans think and it still perplexes me. Maybe if it gets bad enough for them they just might drop their prices, I for one will not hold my breath.

This past weekend I think I was a walking ATM everybody was trying to borrow money from me, only close friends were able to squeeze me for some dinero.

Be safe.

LOBO

Browsebot
11-02-08, 05:56
Should I start with the ole abbreviation: RTFF? Bench, take over for me here...

I post here because USAsexguide is my fucking home board and they don't have an international section. InternationalSexguide is a different forum and my reports will be cleaned up and reposted there later.I actually did RTFF, which is why I asked why your posts about Nogales, Mexico were in a forum for Arizona. Don't get pissed at me because you were too stupid to use Google to find the correct whoremonger board to post your reports and opinions on in the first place.


While I am bitching and raising hell...I didn't see a whole lot of raising hell.....just bitching that was borderline whining. You act like a little kid with anger management problems trying unsuccessfully to be an internet bully. You make yourself look stupid when you try to be hostile on a whoremonger board, like you're trying to flex some type of cyber-muscle to show how much of a super-monger you are. Newsflash....no one really cares except the little fanboys you have here.


Bubbles, I respect you as a senior memeber, so I won't get as shitty as I did with the newbie one page back when he made the same comment without reading the forum enought to know this is an old old issue in Nogales.I am a newbie in post count only, because I've fucked so many women in so many countries I've lost count. I make it a point not to post, because idiots like you run rampant on the internet. The only time you puff your chest out is when you're drunk in front of a keyboard, so save all your big-talking for someone who gives a shit.

Learn how to post reports in the correct forums, and there wouldn't be a problem.

Ed...
11-03-08, 00:42
Hey Browsebot,

When you're in town let me know and I'll be glad to show you how things work around here.

Ed...

Lobo003
11-03-08, 05:54
I did Nogi thursday and saturday and had my usuall great time and played around with a few girls. Saturday I was stood up by a date early in the evening but I managed to fill in her spot with another girl and a second morsel late in the evening. My first girl gave me a 2 hour run and the second gave me a 1 hour time, damn clock whatcher, needless to say I slept real well that evening with boobies and kitties dancing in my head.

Anyhow here's an article that I found concerning Nogales and Mexicos drug problem, things could become a little more dangerous. I personally find myself starting to become concerned with the drug war based on what I have been hearing and reading, and feel that things will only get worse before they get better, At this moment I still believe it's still safe to monger in Nogi.

Here's the article...

The War Next Door
As drug cartels battle the government, Mexico descends into chaos

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24012731/the_war_next_door

Be safe...

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
11-03-08, 10:17
Hey Browsebot,

When you're in town let me know and I'll be glad to show you how things work around here.

Ed...

I agree with Ed. Let me know when you're coming to town, Mr. Know-It-All, and you'll have a welcoming committee that will be happy to show you how it works in this town...and Nogie.

Browsebot
11-03-08, 17:27
I agree with Ed. Let me know when you're coming to town, Mr. Know-It-All, and you'll have a welcoming committee that will be happy to show you how it works in this town...and Nogie.Oh my, look what we have here. Another internet gangster showing how tough he is from the anonymous safety of a keyboard. You guys are hilarious. Talk to me when you move beyond a grade-school mentality and can speak to other people with a little common courtesy and intelligence.

Lobo003
11-04-08, 02:13
What's with all the punches being thrown here I thought this was a discussion board not a boxing match.

Browsebot, as I recall Lovelos retired from this board and mongering due to finances, correct me if I'm wrong. As far as your post is concerned I'm still trying to make heads or tails of your complaint, the only thing I can extract is people, especially Lovelos posting about Nogales Mex. on an Arizona forum and guys acting like gorillas beating their chests about their conquest with girls in Nogales, again especially Lovelos.

First there is a section for Nogales in the Arizona section.

Second, are we not as guys supposed to act stupid and full of ourselves with our women exploits especially on this board no matter how pompous or asinine it may be. I know some men will be a little more expressive than others but that's what I thought this forum was for.

Guys no more punches only info on mongering and our exploits.

Be safe...

LOBO

Browsebot
11-04-08, 03:38
What's with all the punches being thrown here I thought this was a discussion board not a boxing match.

Browsebot, as I recall Lovelos retired from this board and mongering due to finances, correct me if I'm wrong. As far as your post is concerned I'm still trying to make heads or tails of your complaint, the only thing I can extract is people, especially Lovelos posting about Nogales Mex. on an Arizona forum and guys acting like gorillas beating their chests about their conquest with girls in Nogales, again especially Lovelos.

First there is a section for Nogales in the Arizona section.

Second, are we not as guys supposed to act stupid and full of ourselves with our women exploits especially on this board no matter how pompous or asinine it may be. I know some men will be a little more expressive than others but that's what I thought this forum was for.

Guys no more punches only info on mongering and our exploits.

Be safe...

LOBOI wasn't really trying to be rude or throw any punches. I was just responding to very rude comments made to me.

I never really had a complaint, I simply posted a question asking whether some of the clubs being referred to were in Nogales, Arizona (which is an actual place and the listed location for this forum), or in Nogales, Mexico. Lovelost proceeded to thump his chest and try to berate me for my question.

There is spillover in this forum of topics that technically should be in the Nogales, Mexico forum on the international board. This really isn't a forum for Nogales, Mexico. People just started posting here about Mexico topics out of laziness and not knowing any better since the two towns border each other and most people don't see a difference, and the habit flourished over time.

People searching the international Nogales, Mexico forum might not find the information they seek because it was erroneously posted here.

Sure, the internet and these ***** forums are for the sharing of information and ideas of like-minded individuals such as ourselves. It is expected that some reports will often contain embellishment. No one cares either way, because everyone knows the routine.

But there is no excuse for being rude or discourteous to others because people think they are "king of the hill" on a ***** forum simply because they have a high post count, as if that entitles them to say anything the like in any manner to anyone, and people will just rollover for them. I respect senior members for the contributions to the community, but that does not entitle them to lose common courtesy and respect for others. No one cares how much of a "super-monger" someone perceives themselves to be. Everyone is a legend in their own mind, and often no where else. Lovelost being a case in point.

Senior members earn respect through their contributions, but can just as easily lose it through their actions. This is a gathering place for information, not for chest-thumpers trying to establish themselves as an alpha-male on a ***** forum. Because honestly. No one cares but the person doing the thumping, and he's often drunk behind a keyboard.

Sexhobbyist
11-04-08, 12:13
I wasn't really trying to be rude or throw any punches. I was just responding to very rude comments made to me.

There is spillover in this forum of topics that technically should be in the Nogales, Mexico forum on the international board. This really isn't a forum for Nogales, Mexico. People just started posting here about Mexico topics out of laziness and not knowing any better since the two towns border each other and most people don't see a difference, and the habit flourished over time.

People searching the international Nogales, Mexico forum might not find the information they seek because it was erroneously posted here.


Senior members earn respect through their contributions, but can just as easily lose it through their actions. This is a gathering place for information, not for chest-thumpers trying to establish themselves as an alpha-male on a ***** forum. Because honestly. No one cares but the person doing the thumping, and he's often drunk behind a keyboard.

A. I don't drink.
B. I don't think LoveLOS was rude. Instead, I think you might be a little thin-skinned.
C. I have my own website for chest thumping. I don't care if you read it or not. The point is, I'm not subjecting you to it on this forum.
D. Until you've had the Tucson & Nogie experience and posted about it, you don't have a clue. There are those willing to share info with you if you want and once you become a Senior member. Yes, unfortunately, newbies might struggle to figure it out on their own. That's part of the dues you pay.
E. Most knowledgeable (emphasize the word "knowledgeable") mongers know to look on both websites for Nogales and other border town info.
F. LoveLOS, myself, and others cross post on both sites so those who are not knowledgeable can get the benefit of the information.
G. LoveLOS has contributed more to the Nogales forum (on either/both websites) than anyone else. He's entitled to tell a newbie to RTFF.

Lobo003
11-04-08, 13:26
Browsebot,

First of all, posting for Nogales Arizona would be a waste of time, nothing happens in that town and I guess over time everyone assumed that the Nogales post was for Nogales Mexico and did like wise ,as I have.

Secondly,if any member is attacked on this forum that person has every right to respond in kind, as you did.

I do hope we could all be adult gentlemen on this forum and not sling mud at each other and treat one another with respect.

Be safe.

LOBO

Ed...
11-04-08, 18:51
Seems real polite and respectful in here to me.

But.. someone hiding being his keyboard, wining about someone else's hiding behind their own keyboard. This doesn't make any sense or add to any useful dialog.

Nor does complaining about the location of the posts, and still continuing in that forum. Lobo and los both post in both sections, so, buddy, who's lazy exactly?

Careful jumping to conclusions about fellow posters, tough guy. Your way off on this I promise. Your making some silly bravado comments, again while inferring the same. Self projection is not an endearing quality.

As far as hiding, I offered to meet. wtf. I Cant be any more plain than that.

Lastly, take a peak at the content of your posts, and take a peak at Lovelos and SH. Everyone is appreciated, but get a perspective here.

Ed...
11-04-08, 18:56
I know you didn't forget, but I'll offer to get back on topic in Nogi AZ and remind everyone there is a decent AMP in town!
And, thanks for volunteering to be the ref! lol


Browsebot,

First of all, posting for Nogales Arizona would be a waste of time, nothing happens in that town ...............Be safe.

LOBO

Browsebot
11-05-08, 04:24
Seems real polite and respectful in here to me.

But.. someone hiding being his keyboard, wining about someone else's hiding behind their own keyboard. This doesn't make any sense or add to any useful dialog.

Nor does complaining about the location of the posts, and still continuing in that forum. Lobo and los both post in both sections, so, buddy, who's lazy exactly?

Careful jumping to conclusions about fellow posters, tough guy. Your way off on this I promise. Your making some silly bravado comments, again while inferring the same. Self projection is not an endearing quality.

As far as hiding, I offered to meet. wtf. I Cant be any more plain than that.

Lastly, take a peak at the content of your posts, and take a peak at Lovelos and SH. Everyone is appreciated, but get a perspective here.Sure, I'm behind a keyboard just like everyone else, but I don't come on internet ***** forums and try to talk tough and berate people for asking a question.

If you read the posts, I never complained about the location of posts, I simply asked for clarification as to whether they were in the correct geographical forum to lessen any confusion.

I'm not making any bravado comments either. I'm simply drawing an inference based on the comments and actions of others. People perceive you based on your actions and comments....so if you try to talk tough, thump your chest out to act like king of the hill, and act hostile towards people then guess what....you're perceived as a little wannabe internet bully that didn't quite make the cut.

And honestly, you saying you'll meet me somewhere is a joke. What are you going to do? I mean, really. You internet tough guys are amazing. People like you would never make another post again on the internet if you actually met someone in person, so stop acting like a clown.

Just show a little courtesy to other people regardless of their post count, and there would never be a problem. Your contribution, reports and post count make you respected and appreciated within the community but doesn't give you a pass to be rude and hostile to other people.

Ed...
11-05-08, 12:25
" People like you would never make another post again on the internet if you actually met someone in person, ..."

.

You are an asshole. In town? In Nogi? Or just jerkin off on the keyboard?
Meet up or shut up.
Ed...

Sexhobbyist
11-05-08, 13:06
And honestly, you saying you'll meet me somewhere is a joke. What are you going to do? I mean, really. You internet tough guys are amazing. People like you would never make another post again on the internet if you actually met someone in person, so stop acting like a clown.


On the contrary. I've invited and met up with many of the forum mongers and I've hosted them in my town and Nogales. I've shown them around and introduced them to many of the dancers I hang with.

Your contention that my invitation is a joke is, itself, a joke. Especially to those who know the hospitality I provide.

You're the clown, loser.
SH

Browsebot
11-05-08, 13:07
You are an asshole. In town? In Nogi? Or just jerkin off on the keyboard?

Meet up or shut up.

EdOh, so now I'm an asshole because you've revealed yourself to be an emotionally immature, quick-tempered wannabe internet bully that found someone they couldn't intimidate from behind your keyboard or with your awesome post count? Awww, poor baby.

I was never rude, discourteous or confrontational; I simply asked a question. And now you internet bullies want to meet me so you can "show me how things work".

Hey, man, you keep talking tough on prostitute forums and building up your post count and your wannabe tough guy reputation, and maybe someday you'll find someone who cares, because I'll let you in on a little secret. Real tough guys don't run their mouth and talk shit. Real bad boys move in silence. And your loud mouth just revealed you for what you truly are. Vagina.

But really, you keep running your mouth to make yourself feel like a big man, because you and I both know that if you ever meet someone in person that you'll need a change of underwear and you won't be posting about how tough you are after that.

Browsebot
11-05-08, 13:11
On the contrary. I've invited and met up with many of the forum mongers and I've hosted them in my town and Nogales. I've shown them around and introduced them to many of the dancers I hang with.

Your contention that my invitation is a joke is, itself, a joke. Especially to those who know the hospitality I provide.

You're the clown, loser.

SHSexhobbyist, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Ed and his fanboy that basically offered to meet me with a "welcoming committee" and continued to be rude. I didn't perceive your offer as a threat or a joke, and I apologize for the confusion. I thought your offer was genuine, and am sure it is a valued service for people visiting the area. Again, my apologies for the confusion. I should have been more specific.

Benchseats Rock
11-05-08, 17:12
All I can do is laugh... LoveLOS, if you need to learn how to use google I think I wrote a post about that once... :)

Newbie,

This forum has a culture all it's own.
Adapt or be forced to only get info from what is publicly available.. in the case of Nogi you're lucky you don't have top be all that diplomatic because LoveLOS (tired of hearing his name yet, well you're fucked - he is going to be haunting you should you decide to RTFF) has posted everything you need to know. In other areas though your rep here will (and it will, I promise you) follow you and where info isn't so well publicly posted you will find it more difficult to get any information back channeled to you from trustworthy and reliable sources.

Alot of us Seniors are friends in real life, and we travel alot and spend even more for our hobby. I cant think of an area in the country where I don't know someone to meet up for drinks and partying with the benefits of inside information, here or internationally... this forum is just that good - We're not behind the keyboard tough guys - but like college (you went, right?) its more of a fraternity style hazing ritual. We have fun, you get info, you learn how o use the forum etc.; but moreover, the way a newbie handles his spankings here at first generally is a good indicator of what kind of senior member he will be. Sometimes, the end results are lifelong friendships - so don't go blowing your wad early being an asshole, blow it inside of Sarah or Citaly and write a report.


Benchseats Rock

SH, I'm getting that burr in my saddle - seeya soon :)

Here is the report on how to use google, just in case you wanted to see what a real flame looks like :) (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491674&postcount=216)

LoveLOS
11-06-08, 02:44
BrowseHerButt,

Further proof that we have become the nation of the offended. Now even whoremongers are thin skinned. Amazing. Just so you don't think I am calling you names:
Noun 1. whoremonger - a prostitute's customer
whoremaster, john, trick
customer, client - someone who pays for goods or services
2. whoremonger - a pimp who procures ******
whoremaster, fancy man, pandar, pander, panderer, pimp, procurer, ponce - someone who procures customers for ****** (in England they call a pimp a ponce)
I guess since you are so offended by my comments, all I can say is I am really really fucking sorry that you were offended by my comments. I wouldn't want to retract them, Bench would be disappointed. I responded the way I did because your questions did sound ignorant--like you had not RTFF. I have made it very plain in my reports that they occurred in Mexico, so if you really did read the forum, you obviously did not retain much, try reading it again. More slowly.

SH and Ed are good people, the farthermost thing from thugs. They meant what they said about showing you the ropes in Nogi and/or Tucson. They did so for me and we have become close REAL LIFE friends, the kind you can't hide from behind a keyboard. Of course, now that YOU twisted their legit invites into some kind of threat, I think you fucked yourself in that respect. You sure did with me too.

Bench and I are true assholes, but we do like to have fun and fuck women. You have a keen sense of cyber-psychology, with an uncanny ability to diagnose deep seated mental health issues by merely reading a few posts. Just so you feel validated, I wanted you to know that your criticisms of me are absolutely correct: I am a smart ass, I just may have an anger management issue, possibly a drug use problem, an outside chance of an alcohol problem, documented sex addiction issues, allegedly have been unfaithful to my wife, and I watch internet porn. Are you happy that you have degraded me and made me feel bad? <sniffle>

I stopped posting my "sexploits" at the beginning of the year, and Lobo too has "beaten his chest" a few times; assuming that disparaging remark only goes toward LoveLOS, and not back at Lobo. I sure don't know what got in his panties--wasn't me. Probably my girl that works at Lust told him which unit is she would rather have in her twat?? I'm not sure why he attacked me, but hell, why the fuck should I give a flying rats ass? I just lurk here now.

BTW-I really feel safe here behind my keyboard... :rolleyes:

LoveLOS

PS Sorry Bench, I really don't have it in me to flame them to well done anymore. I just laugh at the ignorance and ignore the venom. :p

Lobo003
11-06-08, 03:11
(QUOTE) I stopped posting my "sexploits" at the beginning of the year, and Lobo too has "beaten his chest" a few times; assuming that disparaging remark only goes toward LoveLOS, and not back at Lobo. I sure don't know what got in his panties--wasn't me. Probably my girl that works at Lust told him which unit is she would rather have in her twat?? I'm not sure why he attacked me, but hell, why the fuck should I give a flying rats ass? I just lurk here now.

Lovelos,
A thousand apologies if I seemed to have attacked you, I didn't I was just trying to make a point that Browsebot had a gripe and was focused with you. As far as beating our chest that's the point of this forum. and it was a generalization of all men. As you pointed out I beat my chest, grunted and danced around as well and probably will again in the future.

Geez, how in the fuck did get caught up in this feud, Hey Ed I guess I wasn't a very good ref after all.

LOBO

LoveLOS
11-06-08, 03:13
It's all good el Loco. See how things get taken wrong. -LL

Lobo003
11-06-08, 03:30
The owner of Obssessions has invited me to come on November 12 for a special event at his club and of course to tell everyone else that is interested. A best dancer contest will take place that evening, it sounded as though all clubs are participating. So if anyone is interested I'm sure there will be drink specials. Those are all the details that I have for now.

Be safe,

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
11-06-08, 09:10
The owner of Obssessions has invited me to come on November 12 for a special event at his club and of course to tell everyone else that is interested. A best dancer contest will take place that evening, it sounded as though all clubs are participating. So if anyone is interested I'm sure there will be drink specials. Those are all the details that I have for now.

Be safe,

LOBO

That special event is on a Wednesday night. Who schedules something like that for a Wednesday night when nobody is going to be there? It seems to me that a special event might be better scheduled for a Friday or Saturday night when mongers from Tucson might actually travel there. Unless, of course, the event is catering to locals only.
SH

Lobo003
11-06-08, 15:08
Sexhobbyist.
I agree friday or saturday would be better, but it's his club and his scheduling and it's out of my hands. My guess is that he's trying to drive more customers and knows I will tell all about his events.

I have a sneeky feeling they read these posts, a lot of little things have happened and it's led me to believe they do so.

LOBO

LoveLOS
11-08-08, 03:54
Sexhobbyist.
I agree friday or saturday would be better, but it's his club and his scheduling and it's out of my hands. My guess is that he's trying to drive more customers and knows I will tell all about his events.

I have a sneeky feeling they read these posts, a lot of little things have happened and it's led me to believe they do so.

LOBOYou are correct. They know. ;) More specifically, I know HE knows...

Lobo003
11-08-08, 07:04
Thanks for the confirmation LoveLos,

I will have to implement new tactics. Now I understand why that girl in one of my earlier post never returned I know it doesn't make any sense to you guys but it is very clear to me now. I will need to be more carefull with what I say. I think I just might have been baited.

Para todos mis amigos en Mexico, Lobo les manda saludos. Siempre lo sabia que leian este sitio perro nunca tenia confirmacion hasta ahora...

Be safe...

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
11-08-08, 10:19
Sexhobbyist.
I agree friday or saturday would be better, but it's his club and his scheduling and it's out of my hands. My guess is that he's trying to drive more customers and knows I will tell all about his events.

I have a sneeky feeling they read these posts, a lot of little things have happened and it's led me to believe they do so.

LOBO

How in the heck is he going to get more customers on a Wednesday night? Not gonna happen.

Yes, they read these posts, but they don't heed. For some reason they still think they'll get more customers by raising prices in an economic downturn. Loco.
SH

Lobo003
11-08-08, 16:11
How in the heck is he going to get more customers on a Wednesday night? Not gonna happen.

Yes, they read these posts, but they don't heed. For some reason they still think they'll get more customers by raising prices in an economic downturn. Loco.
SH

I allready have 5 people that want to go there on wednesday night and I've been BS ing about the event with no real intent on going myself. Their participation does depend on my will to go that night. I know that 5 people will not make or break a club but apperently there seems to be some interest, these are close friends and by promoting it on this site I just told the world.

Sexhobbyist, why do keep arguing this point with me I agree with what you say. I am not the owner of said club, although many of their dancers have made that mistake and I don't dictate the policies of the club. Hmmm, maybe I should?

As far as them not taking heed, well that is up to us to change and I will be the first to implement such change. Oh, I forgot I've allready been doing that how about some help.

LOBO

Sexhobbyist
11-08-08, 22:16
Sexhobbyist, why do keep arguing this point with me I agree with what you say. I am not the owner of said club, although many of their dancers have made that mistake and I don't dictate the policies of the club. Hmmm, maybe I should?
LOBO

Lobo, sorry I didn't mean to appear argumentative. I was directing my comment to the club owners in the hope they would read it.
SH

Kirstyforme
11-10-08, 12:56
SH, I'm getting that burr in my saddle - seeya soon :)
Hey BSR,
You coming to Tucson soon? Just on your way to Nogi or are you going to try out some of the Tucson locals as well? Let me know as I'd definitely be down for joining you and SH!

K4me

LoveLOS
11-11-08, 12:45
Hey BSR,
You coming to Tucson soon? Just on your way to Nogi or are you going to try out some of the Tucson locals as well? Let me know as I'd definitely be down for joining you and SH!

K4me:eek: K4M--You have no clue what you just got yourself into...

BSR is my demented brother from another mother! When you meet him, you will understand my meaning. :eek:


I allready have 5 people that want to go there on wednesday nightThe 80/20 rule dictates one will show, if he has the balls, that is. Ed and SH will likely agree, I've been stood up by more USG "mongers" meeting me on the Mexican border than Craigslist hookers meeting me at my hotel room in some random city.

That does not mean I think you should not do what you are doing, get the word out about Nogales. If I was a few thousand miles closer, I would be there.

Fear not SH, you know that I now love Tucson, and the economics therein...but my heart will always be with my GFE/PSE Nogi girls. And Angel.

LoveLOS

Lobo003
11-11-08, 16:05
(QUOTE) The 80/20 rule dictates one will show, if he has the balls, that is. Ed and SH will likely agree, I've been stood up by more USG "mongers" meeting me on the Mexican border than Craigslist hookers meeting me at my hotel room in some random city.

I totally agree everytime I have a group of guys going to Nogi they usually back out at the last minute, 1 or 2 go and most of the time I go alone. I will not go wednesday therefore, zero will attend and most are, if not all, afraid of mexico with it's drug war. The drug war is really getting bad in Mexico and especially in Nogi, the streets are quiet and barren the people are desperate for money, I believe it's a matter of time before they start assaulting tourist on the streets just so they can have money to eat.

Be careful and be safe guys...

LOBO

Benchseats Rock
11-11-08, 16:15
Hey BSR,
You coming to Tucson soon? Just on your way to Nogi or are you going to try out some of the Tucson locals as well? Let me know as I'd definitely be down for joining you and SH!

K4me


Unfortunately its going to be a while before actually get my sorry ass over to Tuscon, due to a certain government agency fucking with my professional life at the moment. As soon as I get my approval to start doing business its all systems go and I'll be taking a vacation to the area to get all spooled up :)

If I go to Tuscon, you're god damned right I'll be heading to Nogi too. No sense in doing anything half-assed. As for my rep when it comes to meeting up with fellow mongering brethren, as LL has pointed out, my record speaks for itself. All I can say is that if you don't need to detox your liver beforehand, you will most definitely need to after. :)

Bench

Sexhobbyist
11-11-08, 16:41
Unfortunately its going to be a while before actually get my sorry ass over to Tuscon, due to a certain government agency fucking with my professional life at the moment. As soon as I get my approval to start doing business its all systems go and I'll be taking a vacation to the area to get all spooled up :)

If I go to Tuscon, you're god damned right I'll be heading to Nogi too. No sense in doing anything half-assed. As for my rep when it comes to meeting up with fellow mongering brethren, as LL has pointed out, my record speaks for itself. All I can say is that if you don't need to detox your liver beforehand, you will most definitely need to after. :)

Bench

Bring it on, Big Time. We'll be happy to see you whenever you get here...assuming Nogales is still around, that is. If not, I'll show you Tucson the way it ought to be seen.
SH

Kirstyforme
11-11-08, 17:29
:eek: K4M--You have no clue what you just got yourself into...

BSR is my demented brother from another mother! When you meet him, you will understand my meaning. :eek:

LoveLOSYou mean they didn't break the mold after you, LL? I find that hard to believe! I'm sure I can still learn many, many things about this hobby but I'm an eager participant and always willing to meet a fellow monger coming to town...


Unfortunately its going to be a while before actually get my sorry ass over to Tuscon, due to a certain government agency fucking with my professional life at the moment. As soon as I get my approval to start doing business its all systems go and I'll be taking a vacation to the area to get all spooled up :)

If I go to Tuscon, you're god damned right I'll be heading to Nogi too. No sense in doing anything half-assed. As for my rep when it comes to meeting up with fellow mongering brethren, as LL has pointed out, my record speaks for itself. All I can say is that if you don't need to detox your liver beforehand, you will most definitely need to after. :)

BenchLike SH, I will await your arrival whenever you can make it. When that time comes our city will be your playground.

Benchseats Rock
11-11-08, 17:34
You mean they didn't break the mold after you, LL? I find that hard to believe! I'm sure I can still learn many, many things about this hobby but I'm an eager participant and always willing to meet a fellow monger coming to town...

Like SH, I will await your arrival whenever you can make it. When that time comes our city will be your playground.

I can't wait :)