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Once Mia left 2 years ago they just have not been the same. So many other spots with way hotter and younger girls.Thanks for confirming. Based on my limited non-FS sample size, I have Sakura, Spa Capri, and Hans that meet the criteria with a gem or two at Convoy Massage and Gold Ocean. Any others I should be checking out?
I have already excluded Golden A, Paradise, and Healthy Massage based on recent attempts.
JiggyPants
07-25-23, 03:12
Not sure if this is allowed- but just went past Massage A on College around 11 pm and it was swarmed with 5 cop cars-and door to spa was open. Can't comment on what exactly is going on but makes me wonder if the appts beyond closing are something I should reconsider.
Not sure if this is allowed- but just went past Massage A on College around 11 pm and it was swarmed with 5 cop cars-and door to spa was open. Can't comment on what exactly is going on but makes me wonder if the appts beyond closing are something I should reconsider.I've recieved FS in here before but it was a few years ago. According to the reviews it's a HJ place mostly. I wonder if they went back to FS utr. It's not really a popular place that's mentioned alot so not sure why they have the LEO there.
SDJaziKing
07-25-23, 12:49
Not sure if this is allowed- but just went past Massage A on College around 11 pm and it was swarmed with 5 cop cars-and door to spa was open. Can't comment on what exactly is going on but makes me wonder if the appts beyond closing are something I should reconsider.After hour appointments are something I do not recommend, unless you know they are going to lock all the doors during the session. Even then it isn't exactly safe.
JimmyFloyd63
07-25-23, 14:43
I realize that the timing of literally thee most epic mind blowing AMP experience of my life (granted been doing this only 3 short years) will be met with some skepticism. And just to be clear, I've been on the side many times, when I've been bitterly disappointed with certain provider's / AMP B&S tactics, so I can definitely relate to how fickle this hobby and some of these ladies can be. It' actually FWIW far worse and way bigger crap shoot when you're dabbling in the independent escort hobby.
With that stated, last night I drove down to 201 to reconnect with my other ATF.Could someone help steer me to this divine location?
Drizzy5151
07-25-23, 15:15
Does anybody have any big titty UTR AMP providers they go to? Other than Cathy and Ivy. Cathy is super fun but isn't here right now obviously. Ivy has some huge fun knickers but she just isn't nearly as fun as Cathy and not every visit with Ivy is great.
NamotuMan1
07-25-23, 19:46
Just Google A to Z spa chula vista. It's not that difficult, but some people apparently prefer to be spoon-fed.
By chance could you get me the number or way to book an appointment for A to Z?
NamotuMan1
07-25-23, 19:49
Just Google 201 spa el cajon. It's not that difficult, but some people apparently prefer to be spoon-fed.
Could someone help steer me to this divine location?
RChangDatyKing
07-25-23, 20:23
Once Mia left 2 years ago they just have not been the same. So many other spots with way hotter and younger girls.We all see beauty differently. IMO Mia's looks was average at best back then. Her massage was good but what made her "popular" was the "services" she offered. Reviews of her looks after she left Paradise are / were still average. I won't oust her by giving her current names and where she works to protect her identity. People can message you if they want to know.
Finding beauty's in AMPs has definitely declined the last 5 plus years however there are still a Mia in almost every one of the spas I go to.
Just Google A to Z spa chula vista. It's not that difficult, but some people apparently prefer to be spoon-fed.LOL chill dude, I was asking since I saw that there are places you have to book with a specific number or person.
LoveYouLong
07-25-23, 21:21
I just found this while searching for some fresh talent, has anyone been to Ark Massage in RB?
LoveYouLong
07-25-23, 21:51
Thanks for confirming. Based on my limited non-FS sample size, I have Sakura, Spa Capri, and Hans that meet the criteria with a gem or two at Convoy Massage and Gold Ocean. Any others I should be checking out?
I have already excluded Golden A, Paradise, and Healthy Massage based on recent attempts.What's wrong with Healthy Massage?
I just found this while searching for some fresh talent, has anyone been to Ark Massage in RB?They have had a lot of fake reviews on are maps for years.
HermanMiller
07-26-23, 00:54
Took a recommendation and saw Linda at Shanghai. The location is nice and not in a strip mall. Excellent massage, which I like, Good teasing, focus on the butt crack. The flip accomplished the deed. I opted for the HandJ, and declined the mouth though it was offered. I'd repeat for the quality massage and the discrete location.
Took a recommendation and saw Linda at Shanghai. The location is nice and not in a strip mall. Excellent massage, which I like, Good teasing, focus on the butt crack. The flip accomplished the deed. I opted for the HandJ, and declined the mouth though it was offered. I'd repeat for the quality massage and the discrete location.Which Shanghai? The one on Dagget?
What's wrong with Healthy Massage?The 2 young girls will not do a HJ, and the other 3 girls are between 47-67 years old. They will reluctantly do it but they hate it so that's why it's off a list LOL.
The 2 young girls will not do a HJ, and the other 3 girls are between 47-67 years old. They will reluctantly do it but they hate it so that's why it's off a list LOL.Healthy Spa on Navajo. I went there one time and got bad treatment I'm never go back again. Can't remember the girl's name but she tried to give me a Hummer with a Condon. After renegotiated no condom.
HermanMiller
07-27-23, 01:09
Which Shanghai? The one on Dagget?Yes.
I am saying this is good if you want a good massage + HE. This is not for someone looking for FS with a HYA.
MrMurphy54
07-27-23, 11:02
I just found this while searching for some fresh talent, has anyone been to Ark Massage in RB?I've been there many times. You can get whatever you want, including a decent massage. A couple of the girls are cute, but not all of them. For me, it's convenient and consistent.
MrMurphy54
07-27-23, 11:04
They have had a lot of fake reviews on are maps for years.I believe there's another Ark Massage in Mira Mesa. Perhaps you're referring to that one? The one in RB has only been there for less than a year, and it's pretty solid.
RChangDatyKing
07-27-23, 16:48
Just got back in town and needed a good deep tissue massage to take out some knots after a long drive and decided on Sakura in the same strip mall where I was going to eat afterwards. All my favorites were on vacation or busy so I decided on Vina who I hadn't seen before. She was not my type at all in terms of looks but she delivered in the massage department and took out all the knots. YMMV, but I also had one of the best edging at an AMP in a long time. Again if looks is not important to you and you want a good massage with possible edging then give her a try.
It had been a while since I dropped into Erma but was feeling a bit frisky and wanted to check out the new crew. I was greeted by May. Sometimes, but not always, I play the game of asking who is all working, or to 'walk away' to see who might be summoned to keep me there but no need for that.
May was drop dead gorgeous. Pretty, Persian eyes, long black hair, slender legs, beautiful figure in a black dress with white-lace trim. I could just tell. I mean, who couldn't?
So, we went to the room on the right and I got comfortable. She eventually gave me a fairly great massage and, on the flip, with a little more teasing, negotiated. I couldn't really wait a long time so I wouldn't exactly say I was the Art of the Deal. I just wanted that dress to come off.
She got her tip, left, I waited, she came back. All of that. I followed her from the table as she went to the corner and disrobed and my god, first the ass and then on the turn these magnificent, perfectly sculptured natural tits. She began (and ended) with a BJ but the best part was when the FS started in mish and she moaned I just locked eyes with her, fell in love and started kissing, and she kissed back. In a very real way. That got me going. We went to k9 and it wasn't long after that I was ready to go, and said so. She dropped to her knees, took off the condom and we wrapped it with BBJCIM.
I'm not sure if I should be posting here because I think I might want a GF LOL.
After that, you know how it goes. Cleaned up, got a bottle of water, left.
I believe there's another Ark Massage in Mira Mesa. Perhaps you're referring to that one? The one in RB has only been there for less than a year, and it's pretty solid.No, I'm talking about the one on bernardo center drive.
They are filled with fake reviews on rubmaps with the same group of fake review spammers that only review that place, Spa Bello, and ELF massage.
ELF massage always has fake reviews about 20-30 year olds and if you go in and ask the 50 year old lady for the specific providers with those fake reviews, mamasan will say oh she's working at this place today and hand you a business card for Ark massage in rancho bernardo. And vice versa and play ring around the rosie with you.
Sure you might have decent experiences there but I know for a fact that most of the reviews are fake.
LoveYouLong
07-27-23, 17:18
The 2 young girls will not do a HJ, and the other 3 girls are between 47-67 years old. They will reluctantly do it but they hate it so that's why it's off a list LOL.Are we talking about the same one? The one on Claremont Mesa? They are older providers and I have had fun with all of them I think. Some give a pretty good massage but only HE and every time the bras were lifted for full access.
RChangDatyKing
07-27-23, 19:03
After I got home, showered and unpacked I decided to go back out to see one of my favorite cutie at Spa Capri. I love this spot. The place is clean, has nice rooms, standing showers if I needed one after my massage. There are a couple ladies I repeat with here regularly. IMO they have a great lineup and some of the most cutest girls at a nonFS spa. Since we all see beauty differently and YMWV at nonFS I'll let you all decide your favorites here. Price is $40/ hhr, $60/45 minutes and $70/ hour. I am not satisfied!
RChangDatyKing
07-27-23, 19:04
After I got home, showered and unpacked I decided to go back out to see one of my favorite cutie at Spa Capri. I love this spot. The place is clean, has nice rooms, standing showers if I needed one after my massage. There are a couple ladies I repeat with here regularly. IMO they have a great lineup and some of the most cutest girls at a nonFS spa. Since we all see beauty differently and YMWV at nonFS I'll let you all decide your favorites here. Price is $40/ hhr, $60/45 minutes and $70/ hour. I am now satisfied!
Hi yall--I was typically a non-FS guy until recently and I have been compiling a list of my recent adventures to post on here once I have enough comparative data. That said, as someone that has a light latex allergy I typically bring my own covers. I have never had a provider not continue with me using my own until this last trip (I won't say the name of the place or the provider). I can understand it from their prospective but wondering if this is going to be a problem for me in the future. Thanks!
Hi yall--I was typically a non-FS guy until recently and I have been compiling a list of my recent adventures to post on here once I have enough comparative data. That said, as someone that has a light latex allergy I typically bring my own covers. I have never had a provider not continue with me using my own until this last trip (I won't say the name of the place or the provider). I can understand it from their prospective but wondering if this is going to be a problem for me in the future. Thanks!Short answer is it depends. Most massage girls are trained to open the condom and pull it extra wide before they wrap it over your dick. They are checking for pre-poked holes in the condom. Too many freaks out there cutting their condoms ahead of time so they break and mongers deliver "accidental" creampies. I think as long as you let most AMP girls test and stretch your lambskin condom, you'll be ok. But some are very very strict and its usually bc they've been burned before.
What's wrong with Healthy Massage?I don't think anything is wrong with Healthy Massage, located on Convoy. But, in my handful of attempts over the past year, I have consistently run into old or not-so-cute. On top of this, I have not come across any leads on this forum nor from any others that suggests otherwise. In other words, no names of cuties that I could go and try.
Please prove me wrong because I used to love this place back when it was Superior Spa. It was one of the first non-FS places where I received some extra mileage from gals that were on the younger side.
The 2 young girls will not do a HJ, and the other 3 girls are between 47-67 years old. They will reluctantly do it but they hate it so that's why it's off a list LOL.Hey Taco,
Are we on the same page with Healthy Massage on Convoy? If yes, who are the young 2 girls. If ugly, forget I asked. If cute enough and without the HJ, then what are their names. I'm always looking for a challenge.
Feel free to PM if preferred.
PoonTangJohnny
07-28-23, 03:43
May was drop dead gorgeous. Pretty, Persian eyes, long black hair, slender legs, beautiful figure in a black dress with white-lace trim.
She began (and ended) with a BJ but the best part was when the FS started in mish and she moaned I just locked eyes with her, fell in love and started kissing, and she kissed back.Spot on review for May! Thanks! I actually got a text from Ashley this morning, telling me I must see this new girl! She actually sent me a couple of pics. And I was thinking, yeah right! They were her. Onto the fun stuff!
BTW- There was an Asian guy who came into the lobby, almost embarrassed because May had just came out to greet me right when he walked in. May took me to our room (literally right inside the hallway) and said she'd be back in 1 minute. If you're on this forum Asian guy driving the truck, I'm the guy that opened the lobby door, came back out and looked at you and said "OMG- May is so freaking hot and beautiful- wait for her!" And then I gave whomever this person is, a fist bump and we both just smiled.
I really love May's very pretty exotic look, and her radiant smile is just so damn mesmerizing!
As soon as May came into the room we immediately got the transaction part squared away and then got right down to business, hugging and DFK while we explored each others bodies. It was such a turn on because she kept looking at my body feeling my shoulders chest and abs telling me about a dozen times- "I like your body very much. Very athletic". Which was such a HUGE turn on. She was most definitely into our experience as much as I was!
After a couple of minutes we began undressing each other, and she said "so big!" Yeah right! LOL We then sat down on the sofa and we continued making out DFK- May is such an amazing hot passionate kisser and really gets into DFK which I love! Things only got hotter as she slid down between my legs and started stroking my cock with sexy hot intense eye contact. Occasionally coming up for another kiss with that hot dancing tongue putting her tongue in my mouth. Then she wanted to show me her oral talents. BLS & BBBJ with lot's of spit and eye contact. May takes great direction and I was loving the sexy sounds she was making. I let her CW me for at least 10 minutes and then I told her I was ready to play with that hot wet kitty! She put a cover on, got up in the saddle in CG and slid my cock inside that tight wet pussy. I knew instantly, that May was going to be such a hot fuck! And she did not disappoint!! She started bouncing that kitty up and down on my hard cock while I was either sucking on her sexy erect nice nipples or her tongue was playing with mine.
Then I picked her up and kept fucking her standing while she wrapped both arms around my neck tight then really started intensely DFK me. Carried her over to the massage table laid her down and got on top and started drilled her brains out. This chick was so fucking hot and really into it in mish. Fucking me back so hard pulling my ass with both her hands as hard and as fast as she could. She was totally getting off almost screaming telling me how much she loved my hard cock in her pussy telling me don't stop. She's definitely a bad girl! I'm not kidding, next to Cici mish sesh at VIP2. May fucked me like an insatiable porn star. Her eye contact and the visuals were about as hot as it gets! After about 5 minutes of intense passionate fucking, I was getting close, so I got her off the table and we fucked standing k9 against the wall, then I had her put her right leg up on the table and fucking her from behind in doggie while we DFK. Then back over to the sofa for come more CG watching her ride me so good; this girls sexy legs and pussy look so fucking hot when she's riding you! I was getting really close so I picked her up off me, took off the cover and asked her to stroke me off while she would spit on my cock rubbing / slapping my hard cock all over those tits and nice nipples until I exploded. May and I totally clicked no doubt about it! She's a most definite repeat for me! She cleaned me up with a hot towel. And then asked if I wanted a short massage, we even went a little OT as she put some oil on actually gave me a pretty decent medium pressure massage. May really reminded me of this smoking hot exotic little Japanese spinner I met in OB- We ended up dating and living together for 3 years. May is I'm guessing late 20's / early 30's about 5'2" tall and maybe a 100 lbs with natural B cups. Total damage: $$2 Benjamin's all inclusive HF / TIP.
Thanks again, Erma & Ashley & May, for always being so good to me with these GFE VIP hotties! You guys rock!
LouGuy2293
07-28-23, 05:33
After I got home, showered and unpacked I decided to go back out to see one of my favorite cutie at Spa Capri. I love this spot. The place is clean, has nice rooms, standing showers if I needed one after my massage. There are a couple ladies I repeat with here regularly. IMO they have a great lineup and some of the most cutest girls at a nonFS spa. Since we all see beauty differently and YMWV at nonFS I'll let you all decide your favorites here. Price is $40/ hhr, $60/45 minutes and $70/ hour. I am now satisfied!Would you be so kind to clear your inbox. Trying to PM you. Thanks.
Sophia at 201. She is a 6 at best in the looks department. She is slender with some man makes and is friendly but I did not find her that attractive. Maybe she has just been over hyped and I had high expectations. She was not bad. Her looks were OK. Nothing wring with her. Just take it easy on the descriptions fellas. Her performance was good and we had good connection. Her effort was 9/10 so overall a good experience.
Sophia at 201. She is a 6 at best in the looks department. She is slender with some man makes and is friendly but I did not find her that attractive. Maybe she has just been over hyped and I had high expectations. She was not bad. Her looks were OK. Nothing wring with her. Just take it easy on the descriptions fellas. Her performance was good and we had good connection. Her effort was 9/10 so overall a good experience.I guess it depends on what number you assign to being "average looking". If 5 is average for your personal scale, then 6 is sightly above average then you may be correct per your personal tastes. If 7 is average for your personal scale then she is an 8. I agree not a 9 to a 10, but there are many many many providers in this town that are below her on the scale in the looks department. I give her an 8 as my tastes are high so 7 is what I consider average in my book.
Now her performance, she is a high performing provider, which has always left a positive impression with me. I have not seen her at 201 (or anyone else there) but have seen her at other places around town. The best times are at the low volume slow places where she has worked.
Lascivious
07-28-23, 17:25
I was looking for a great legit massage and didn't really need to drop another load that day. I read about a great legit massage, no HE at a convoy area shop.
Got a great massage, really top notch, at least equal to any I've ever had. Then at the end, she just worked up to it and gave me a HE. No asking, no negotiating, just a nice unexpected release.
Another night I went to Sakura looking for a release. I read that a certain girl gave a great slow release in addition to a good massage. At the end, nothing. She said others there did that but not her. Weird how most of the time intel is spot on but not always. Maybe trying to keep the HE under the radar. That's why I didn't mention her name or the spa. I know Sakura is know to often be legit only and wouldn't mind going back to her for a legit session.
I was looking for a great legit massage and didn't really need to drop another load that day. I read about a great legit massage, no HE at a convoy area shop.
Got a great massage, really top notch, at least equal to any I've ever had. Then at the end, she just worked up to it and gave me a HE. No asking, no negotiating, just a nice unexpected release.
Another night I went to Sakura looking for a release. I read that a certain girl gave a great slow release in addition to a good massage. At the end, nothing. She said others there did that but not her. Weird how most of the time intel is spot on but not always. Maybe trying to keep the HE under the radar. That's why I didn't mention her name or the spa. I know Sakura is know to often be legit only and wouldn't mind going back to her for a legit session.I had girls at Sakura that do HE for others who won't for me. A few girls there have told me that management doesn't allow them to do HE, so they may hold back if they aren't sure they can trust you. Of course it helps if you go in a few times and give good tips.
Short answer is it depends. Most massage girls are trained to open the condom and pull it extra wide before they wrap it over your dick. They are checking for pre-poked holes in the condom. Too many freaks out there cutting their condoms ahead of time so they break and mongers deliver "accidental" creampies. I think as long as you let most AMP girls test and stretch your lambskin condom, you'll be ok. But some are very very strict and its usually bc they've been burned before.Yeah, I have been giving it to them unopened to inspect and 9/10 of the girls did their thing and went on with the session.
RolfTorren
07-28-23, 20:48
Awesome report Johno! Never been to Erma, but now May is a definite for me so I'll have to visit. Any idea how long she's staying? Erma's a way's for me, but sounds like the hike is totally worth it. Just when I get a little jaded in the hobby, this sort of review comes along. Thanks.
Spot on review for May! Thanks! I actually got a text from Ashley this morning, telling me I must see this new girl! She actually sent me a couple of pics. And I was thinking, yeah right! They were her. Onto the fun stuff!
BTW- There was an Asian guy who came into the lobby, almost embarrassed because May had just came out to greet me right when he walked in. May took me to our room (literally right inside the hallway) and said she'd be back in 1 minute. If you're on this forum Asian guy driving the truck, I'm the guy that opened the lobby door, came back out and looked at you and said "OMG- May is so freaking hot and beautiful- wait for her!" And then I gave whomever this person is, a fist bump and we both just smiled.
I really love May's very pretty exotic look, and her radiant smile is just so damn mesmerizing!
As soon as May came into the room we immediately got the transaction part squared away and then got right down to business, hugging and DFK while we explored each others bodies. It was such a turn on because she kept looking at my body feeling my shoulders chest and abs telling me about a dozen times- "I like your body very much. Very athletic". Which was such a HUGE turn on. She was most definitely into our experience as much as I was!
After a couple of minutes we began undressing each other, and she said "so big!" Yeah right! LOL We then sat down on the sofa and we continued making out DFK- May is such an amazing hot passionate kisser and really gets into DFK which I love! Things only got hotter as she slid down between my legs and started stroking my cock with sexy hot intense eye contact. Occasionally coming up for another kiss with that hot dancing tongue putting her tongue in my mouth. Then she wanted to show me her oral talents.
RolfTorren
07-28-23, 23:29
I've actually had an experience at one place where they told me to bring my own the next time because they were struggling to to fit theirs on me. It was a doubles session and they were muttering away in Chinese and kind of frustrated. I'm not making this up. I've never considered myself above average. I'm guessing they just had a small size in stock.
Hi yall--I was typically a non-FS guy until recently and I have been compiling a list of my recent adventures to post on here once I have enough comparative data. That said, as someone that has a light latex allergy I typically bring my own covers. I have never had a provider not continue with me using my own until this last trip (I won't say the name of the place or the provider). I can understand it from their prospective but wondering if this is going to be a problem for me in the future. Thanks!
Took a trip mid week to Flanders to try Ivy out. Haven't been since the Chloe and Lily days. Shoot over a little before the lunch break rush and she greets me at the door.
She's fair skinned, long hair, kind of tall about 5'5 to 5'7 ish if I had to guess (in flats), and those jugs (large C's. D's). Definitely in her 40's (let's be honest here), and I'd say a 7 in the face, but still pretty IMO and overall hotter than a lot of other providers. She gives me a hug and I hand her the house fee for the hhr. She takes my hand, leads me to the back room with a table and a bench and tells me to get ready while she gets change. I take my time with it and as I'm setting the tip on the dresser she pops back in, helps me out of the rest of my clothes and gives me some LFK. She takes the tip, heads back out of the room and I lay face down and wait for her. When she comes back she begins a medium massage for like 5 minutes and starts teasing super lightly all over until it's basically a tickle. There's a lot of attention to the boys, some caressing my back with her gorgeous tits and LFK mixed in. A pretty good buildup.
After another 5 minutes of that she has me flip over, and we lightly make out for a bit. She rubs her tits all over me, little bit of Russian, and kisses me down to my cock. She then asks if I want a CBJ or BBBJ? I ask her what she prefers and she tells me it's up to me in a playful "no time for your bullshit" kind of way. Not a mood killer, because the way she did it was hella cute. I laughed and opt for BBBJ and she sucks my dick with one of the softest wettest blowjobs I've had in a while. I have her stop because I was going to nut after a few minutes and I really wanted to fuck her. She wraps me up, hops on for CG smothering me with her tits and kissing my neck. We switch to doggy at some point where I can't hold it any longer and I finish in the bag. Ivy cleans me up, has me lay back down, and gives me an awesome head, neck, and face massage. She also helped me get dressed in a sweet way and gave me some mouthwash on request.
Overall great time. I've seen mixed reviews on Ivy, but my experience was fantastic, and I'll see her again for sure. I had one interruption from another monger but it was just before the head massage at the end, and Ivy dispatched him pretty quickly. Total damage $$.4.
Just got back in town and needed a good deep tissue massage to take out some knots after a long drive and decided on Sakura in the same strip mall where I was going to eat afterwards. All my favorites were on vacation or busy so I decided on Vina who I hadn't seen before. She was not my type at all in terms of looks but she delivered in the massage department and took out all the knots. YMMV, but I also had one of the best edging at an AMP in a long time. Again if looks is not important to you and you want a good massage with possible edging then give her a try.I went here last week. Provider was old and fugly, but nice. Massage was so-so at best but the finish was above average. If she were a little better looking and in shape, I'd visit her again for the handwork. Witholding the name since this seems sensitive. May give Shanghai or Capri a try tonight. Will gamble on a walk in since I don't know names as my mongering has been spotty at best for the last few years.
RChangDatyKing
07-29-23, 17:56
I went here last week. Provider was old and fugly, but nice. Massage was so-so at best but the finish was above average. If she were a little better looking and in shape, I'd visit her again for the handwork. Witholding the name since this seems sensitive. May give Shanghai or Capri a try tonight. Will gamble on a walk in since I don't know names as my mongering has been spotty at best for the last few years.Yeah I'm with you moving forward about withholding names of the masseuse (s) at NonFS spas. People went to see the person I mentioned after my post and said they didn't get the same service and are now inquiring if I asked her to perform the service, what I tipped her to get her to perform the service, etc. Guys, if you've done any mongering at all you should know YMMV especially at nonFS spas and these girls will not do anything more than a massage if they get a wrong vibe from you, or if there's no chemistry, etc. I don't have any expectations when going to a nonFS spa, other than wanting a good massage. I read review sites like this for ideas where to go. I don't offer a big tip or discuss services, menu options with them. If the ladies are comfortable with you (from all my experiences) they'll open the menu / services on their own. I was speaking with a masseuse (at a nonFS spa) I see regularly and she told me how much she hates guys that have wandering hands, ask for extras, etc.
I will also withhold names from nonFS spas because I don't want these nonFS spas to know I write reviews or that I'm on review sites like this.
From my previous report, IMO Capri has a great lineup and most of the girls there are great. Yes, I have my favorites and unicorns here and me giving the names is not going to guarantee anyone will get the same massage or has the same connection, here or anywhere else I go for massage.
Happy hunting fellas.
RChangDatyKing
07-29-23, 18:00
Would you be so kind to clear your inbox. Trying to PM you. Thanks.Sorry, it's intentional that I keep my inbox full. I don't want to keep getting PMs asking who my UTRs are, etc.
Guys, read through the reviews and all your answers should be answered. Go out and try some spas and write your reviews.
When I signed up on this website I spent a month reading all the different forums and made my list and went exploring. Who my favorites are may not be yours so go and find your unicorns and UTRs.
RChangDatyKing
07-29-23, 19:52
Spot on review for May! Thanks! I actually got a text from Ashley this morning, telling me I must see this new girl! She actually sent me a couple of pics. And I was thinking, yeah right! They were her. Onto the fun stuff!
BTW- There was an Asian guy who came into the lobby, almost embarrassed because May had just came out to greet me right when he walked in. May took me to our room (literally right inside the hallway) and said she'd be back in 1 minute. If you're on this forum Asian guy driving the truck, I'm the guy that opened the lobby door, came back out and looked at you and said "OMG- May is so freaking hot and beautiful- wait for her!" And then I gave whomever this person is, a fist bump and we both just smiled.
I really love May's very pretty exotic look, and her radiant smile is just so damn mesmerizing!
As soon as May came into the room we immediately got the transaction part squared away and then got right down to business, hugging and DFK while we explored each others bodies. It was such a turn on because she kept looking at my body feeling my shoulders chest and abs telling me about a dozen times- "I like your body very much. Very athletic". Which was such a HUGE turn on. She was most definitely into our experience as much as I was!
After a couple of minutes we began undressing each other, and she said "so big!" Yeah right! LOL We then sat down on the sofa and we continued making out DFK- May is such an amazing hot passionate kisser and really gets into DFK which I love! Things only got hotter as she slid down between my legs and started stroking my cock with sexy hot intense eye contact. Occasionally coming up for another kiss with that hot dancing tongue putting her tongue in my mouth. Then she wanted to show me her oral talents. BLS & BBBJ with lot's of spit and eye contact. May takes great direction and I was loving the sexy sounds she was making. I let her CW me for at least 10 minutes and then I told her I was ready to play with that hot wet kitty! She put a cover on, got up in the saddle in CG and slid my cock inside that tight wet pussy. I knew instantly, that May was going to be such a hot fuck! And she did not disappoint!! She started bouncing that kitty up and down on my hard cock while I was either sucking on her sexy erect nice nipples or her tongue was playing with mine.
Then I picked her up and kept fucking her standing while she wrapped both arms around my neck tight then really started intensely DFK me. Carried her over to the massage table laid her down and got on top and started drilled her brains out. This chick was so fucking hot and really into it in mish. Fucking me back so hard pulling my ass with both her hands as hard and as fast as she could. She was totally getting off almost screaming telling me how much she loved my hard cock in her pussy telling me don't stop. She's definitely a bad girl! I'm not kidding, next to Cici mish sesh at VIP2. May fucked me like an insatiable porn star. Her eye contact and the visuals were about as hot as it gets! After about 5 minutes of intense passionate fucking, I was getting close, so I got her off the table and we fucked standing k9 against the wall, then I had her put her right leg up on the table and fucking her from behind in doggie while we DFK. Then back over to the sofa for come more CG watching her ride me so good; this girls sexy legs and pussy look so fucking hot when she's riding you! I was getting really close so I picked her up off me, took off the cover and asked her to stroke me off while she would spit on my cock rubbing / slapping my hard cock all over those tits and nice nipples until I exploded. May and I totally clicked no doubt about it! She's a most definite repeat for me! She cleaned me up with a hot towel. And then asked if I wanted a short massage, we even went a little OT as she put some oil on actually gave me a pretty decent medium pressure massage. May really reminded me of this smoking hot exotic little Japanese spinner I met in OB- We ended up dating and living together for 3 years. May is I'm guessing late 20's / early 30's about 5'2" tall and maybe a 100 lbs with natural B cups. Total damage: $$2 Benjamin's all inclusive HF / TIP.
Thanks again, Erma & Ashley & May, for always being so good to me with these GFE VIP hotties! You guys rock!Great report, PTJohnny!
This definitely makes me want to put May on my list. I hope this is a new trend for Erma and bringing ladies that are full GFE and attractive to the location. The only other suggestions I have is to have more girls working to limit the interruptions while we are in sessions and don't short mongers on time.
I like spas that out a sign on the door when girls are busy to say come back in 15 minutes, 30 minutes, etc.
After striking out with no responses from a few EB ads decided to stop by Erma. Ended up getting May as a walk in. Total hottie. Place seemed quieter than usual (been 3 times before) so that was nice (wouldn't last though). Paid the HF and actually got the massage first. After the flip got a nice BBBJ and cfs. Place got busy though, heard the doorbell ring twice and the mood kinda changed. Then the bell rung again and you could tell she tried to get me to finish faster and I could see her looking at the monitors more. Heard another monger ask for her and heard someone in the hallway tell them 10 minutes then another girl talk to her through the door.
I don't blame them for the rush though, I understand it's part of the business. I was lucky enough that I got most of the fun uninterrupted till near the end. Still left happy so that's what matters.
Great report, PTJohnny!
This definitely makes me want to put May on my list. I hope this is a new trend for Erma and bringing ladies that are full GFE and attractive to the location. The only other suggestions I have is to have more girls working to limit the interruptions while we are in sessions and don't short mongers on time.
I like spas that out a sign on the door when girls are busy to say come back in 15 minutes, 30 minutes, etc.Is it just my bad luck or does the MMS for Erma not really honor appointments? I've been there a few times in the past and MMS has my number. The past two times I went there with an appointment scheduled the girl I wanted to see was busy. It's a bummer cause they have good talent on rotation.
RChangDatyKing
07-30-23, 10:23
Is it just my bad luck or does the MMS for Erma not really honor appointments? I've been there a few times in the past and MMS has my number. The past two times I went there with an appointment scheduled the girl I wanted to see was busy. It's a bummer cause they have good talent on rotation.What's up AJ! This is what I keep hearing and is one of the main reason I don't go back. The only appointment time that has been honored are the last or first appointments. Unless I hear the girl is attractive and offers full GFE by reputable mongers I don't waste my time. Hope all is well bro!
RChangDatyKing
07-30-23, 11:08
After striking out with no responses from a few EB ads decided to stop by Erma. Ended up getting May as a walk in. Total hottie. Place seemed quieter than usual (been 3 times before) so that was nice (wouldn't last though). Paid the HF and actually got the massage first. After the flip got a nice BBBJ and cfs. Place got busy though, heard the doorbell ring twice and the mood kinda changed. Then the bell rung again and you could tell she tried to get me to finish faster and I could see her looking at the monitors more. Heard another monger ask for her and heard someone in the hallway tell them 10 minutes then another girl talk to her through the door.
I don't blame them for the rush though, I understand it's part of the business. I was lucky enough that I got most of the fun uninterrupted till near the end. Still left happy so that's what matters.We should never be rushed! I will only book a hour and want my hour! They need to have a MMS or someone that can answer the door to eliminate the interruptions. If I am shorted on time I will never go back. These girls just don't work in one location so I'll catch her when she moves in her rotation. You were fortunate it started slow so you were able to finish. If it had been busy when you entered the room the session might not be as good.
I know that no one wants to give up their UTR information, but I'm just curious as to the line-up. Any info on who's cute, thin, young vs. Curvy with a nice rack?
Or just a link to an ad? I thought they occasionally posted on Rubrankings, but not finding anything.
PoonTangJohnny
07-30-23, 13:42
Awesome report Johno! Never been to Erma, but now May is a definite for me so I'll have to visit. Any idea how long she's staying? Erma's a way's for me, but sounds like the hike is totally worth it. Just when I get a little jaded in the hobby, this sort of review comes along. Thanks.Thanks RT! I have to be honest, when my sesh with May first started, I was beginning to think that I wasn't going to make that super hot connection we're all looking / hoping for. And then I don't know WTF happened, but for whatever reason, something just must've clicked in her brain, & I'm glad it did! She turned on like a light switch and went from 0-100 mph in an instant. And she has 1 of the hottest looking "I love the way your fucking me" fuck faces I've had the pleasure looking and the way she DFK while we're going at it! Fucking true passion!
Great report, PTJohnny!
This definitely makes me want to put May on my list. I hope this is a new trend for Erma and bringing ladies that are full GFE and attractive to the location. The only other suggestions I have is to have more girls working to limit the interruptions while we are in sessions and don't short mongers on time.
I like spas that out a sign on the door when girls are busy to say come back in 15 minutes, 30 minutes, etc.Thanks- I agree with everything you wrote, RC!
Bottom line: You don't have to stay at these places if you don't like what you see. I've dropped inside and walked out of so AMP's more times than I can count. Because there's no way I'm dropping a couple of $$ bills on a chick if I'm not feeling her. I have to feel true excitement at what I'm looking at. Otherwise.
I'd much prefer to just save my hard earned $$ go home, get out the Astroglide and watch some of the hottest porn I've ever watched: The several hot vids Slippery let me take of us during a few of our porn hot "YUMMY" playdates. < FWIW- This hottie (Slippery) is hand's down, thee most intensely passionate woman ever, I've ever had the pleasure of making a hot connection with. A true Porn Star!
After striking out with no responses from a few EB ads decided to stop by Erma. Ended up getting May as a walk in. Total hottie. Place seemed quieter than usual (been 3 times before) so that was nice (wouldn't last though). Paid the HF and actually got the massage first. After the flip got a nice BBBJ and cfs. Place got busy though, heard the doorbell ring twice and the mood kinda changed. Then the bell rung again and you could tell she tried to get me to finish faster and I could see her looking at the monitors more. Heard another monger ask for her and heard someone in the hallway tell them 10 minutes then another girl talk to her through the door.
I don't blame them for the rush though, I understand it's part of the business. I was lucky enough that I got most of the fun uninterrupted till near the end. Still left happy so that's what matters.Nice report! I'm glad that you were at least able to have some hot fun with her, before the stampede began. LOL It's not these girls fault when things start getting all crazy busy at some of these places. They're just trying to do their best. I've been a victim of my own reviews plenty of times, wasn't able to get in for some late night fun with a couple of very popular highly reviewed girls. And I'm treated like a VIP most of the time. These places can only handle so much business, especially when they only have 2 or 3 girls working.
Is it just my bad luck or does the MMS for Erma not really honor appointments? I've been there a few times in the past and MMS has my number. The past two times I went there with an appointment scheduled the girl I wanted to see was busy. It's a bummer cause they have good talent on rotation.I really wish I knew what to tell you, AJ. Trust me, we've all been there before and it sucks. Timing, IS, everything! My best experiences, have always been late night when these places either aren't busy or I've made an appointment with a specific girl as her last customer.
As for my own personal experiences in dealing with Erma's MMS- she's always honored my appointment times, but then again I've developed a pretty good rapport with her and they know, that I'll walk in a heart beat if my appointment time isn't honored. I have Zero Tolerance, for either B&S tactics or my appointment times not being honored & won't put up with that type of UNPROFESSIONAL BS- ever! I have a 15 minute window I allow within my appt. Time, because I always want my play date to be freshly showered, which they are.
Case in point: I made an appointment to see Sophia (as her last customer) on a late evening when she first started working at Rain Spa on ECB. The MMS booked my appointment time and gave it to some other random walk in guy. I waited in the parking lot for a reasonable time. And I'll leave out the long winded details, but suffice it to say, I let the MMS know, that I will never give them my business ever again. They texted back apologizing offering to waive my HF, a free massage if I came back, and my response to them was: "FUCK YOU! NEVER again!" There's not 3 strikes BS with me when a place pulls this kind of $hit.
I guess it depends on what number you assign to being "average looking". If 5 is average for your personal scale, then 6 is sightly above average then you may be correct per your personal tastes. If 7 is average for your personal scale then she is an 8. I agree not a 9 to a 10, but there are many many many providers in this town that are below her on the scale in the looks department. I give her an 8 as my tastes are high so 7 is what I consider average in my book.
Now her performance, she is a high performing provider, which has always left a positive impression with me. I have not seen her at 201 (or anyone else there) but have seen her at other places around town. The best times are at the low volume slow places where she has worked.FWIW: I was a regular of VIP's GOAT Mina. Suffice it to say, that she gave me UTR VIP porn hot service, that she probably didn't give to too many of her other customers. She even stopped by and saw me at my place on 3 occasions. And yes it was __FS, every single time (unless it involved another girl in 1 of our hot threesomes)!
FYI- I typically don't like to rate any of the ladies I see using the numerical 1-10 score. With that stated- I stand by every single superlative word, I've ever used, in describing Sophia, both physically, and performance wise. IMO- Sophia is 1 of the hottest intensely passionate porn hot fucks I've experienced not only in this hobby, but in my entire life- period! Which is the key reason why I find this amazing sexy fuck doll to be 1 the hottest, most exotically beautiful women I've met in the AMP hobby; because of the hot MUTUAL connection we feel for 1 other Key * word: "mutual!" If a provider isn't feeling it with someone, it doesn't matter how much $$$ you tip them. It's pretty simple that she's just not into you and the experience will most likely feel, mechanical. Whenever I see Sophia, she's always dressed to the Nine's, either wearing hot lingerie and heels, a sexy hot short dress, showered and freshly made up face and she always wears her hair the way I love. But most importantly, she's always got a big sexy smile on her face and she's happy / excited to see me, because she knows we're BOTH about to be having some serious hot passionate fun together!< It just doesn't get any hotter than Sophia, IMO! I will continue to see this special talent as long as she's here in San Diego. In another year, hopefully we'll be well over 50+ play dates together.
FWIW: I'd be willing to bet, that there aren't many guys here on this forum who've banged more hot pussy (10's all day every day), than I did back in my hay day. This includes a few smoking hot strippers I met at Cheetahs, Club Expose. To name a couple, and I never, ever had to pay for any of this 10 pussy. My point is- I KNOW 10 talent, when I see hot 10 talent, which I'm not quite sure some of the guys here who HAVE to pay for hot pussy, can fully appreciate relate with.
YMWAV; Your mileage will always vary.
Like everything else in this hobby, the only constant is change.
Apple spa rotated out their girl. SD lost a premier PM provider. Top notch head and foot massage too.
Asian spa on ECB is also rotating out. Back to China for 2 months. No idea who the replacement is. They said "younger", but they always say that.
I'll miss both those two.
Ended up trying out Luxe after all the talk. "As advertised", but pretty mechanical. No one else came in, but it still felt rushed. I could see it getting better with repeats, but I'm not sure I'll be back.
When I was new to the hobby, I went to Yeliya a few times in that same parking lot. It's been closed for years, but one thing I liked about that place is that they'd ask upfront if I wanted 90 minutes. Owners like 90 minutes for the HF, providers like HHR for the tips and quick turnaround. That place had a (really cute) receptionist who pushed the providers to ask for 90 minutes.
Back to searching for more nonFS regulars for my rotation. Anything good out there?
I know that no one wants to give up their UTR information, but I'm just curious as to the line-up. Any info on who's cute, thin, young vs. Curvy with a nice rack?
Or just a link to an ad? I thought they occasionally posted on Rubrankings, but not finding anything.Hey feel free to PM me.
I'm into the same thing, and have tried a few places out.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/124690
I see her regularly, she is really pretty and funny and priced great when it comes to her grooming services. That being said, she doesn't take her clothes off. She'll let you play with her ass and will happily add an HJ for a small tip 30-40. I'm not sure that she's open at the moment due to COVID, I don't see any newer adds. But if you are just looking to get groomed while keeping things fun, she's my go to.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/138547
She is extremely pretty, from Israel with a sexy accent. Her grooming services are separate from her additional services and I've only seen her for grooming. No extras were added and it cost 100. She'll offer full nude massage with body slides for an extra 220 but I can't speak on that.
Is there a Post Covid / Post Rubratings update or info on either of these?
Thanks RT! I have to be honest, when my sesh with May first started, I was beginning to think that I wasn't going to make that super hot connection we're all looking / hoping for. And then I don't know WTF happened, but for whatever reason, something just must've clicked in her brain, & I'm glad it did! She turned on like a light switch and went from 0-100 mph in an instant.I can relate. The hobby has made me lazy.
RChangDatyKing
07-30-23, 22:18
I know that no one wants to give up their UTR information, but I'm just curious as to the line-up. Any info on who's cute, thin, young vs. Curvy with a nice rack?
Or just a link to an ad? I thought they occasionally posted on Rubrankings, but not finding anything.I sent you a PM!
RChangDatyKing
07-30-23, 22:36
Yes, we all have to learn to walk away if we don't like what we see. I always say if the girls (FS spas) don't get me excited with her "clothes" on when I'm given a lineup then I walk away. If they don't honor your appointment time, leave and text the booker / MMS and tell them to f-off and post a review. If they do a bait and switch and tell you a masseuse is working when she's not, get dress and leave and ask for your money back then post a review.
Thanks- I agree with everything you wrote, RC!
Bottom line: You don't have to stay at these places if you don't like what you see. I've dropped inside and walked out of so AMP's more times than I can count. Because there's no way I'm dropping a couple of $$ bills on a chick if I'm not feeling her. I have to feel true excitement at what I'm looking at. Otherwise.
I'd much prefer to just save my hard earned $$ go home, get out the Astroglide and watch some of the hottest porn I've ever watched: The several hot vids Slippery let me take of us during a few of our porn hot "YUMMY" playdates. < FWIW- This hottie (Slippery) is hand's down, thee most intensely passionate woman ever, I've ever had the pleasure of making a hot connection with. A true Porn Star!
YMWAV; Your mileage will always vary.
CoffeeLake1151
07-31-23, 02:49
Does anyone know where Angela is now? I saw her a few times Angel Spa on Picador Blvd.
I personally use the Witch Waxer. She works out of a salon in City Heights, El Cajon Blvd not too far from SDSU. I've been using her service for two years and never got the "there's extra" vibe from her. No extras but she does it all, including your anus. Check out her IG thewitchwaxer. She's a good looking mexicana with a nice a really nice peach.
I'm into the same thing, and have tried a few places out.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/124690
I see her regularly, she is really pretty and funny and priced great when it comes to her grooming services. That being said, she doesn't take her clothes off. She'll let you play with her ass and will happily add an HJ for a small tip 30-40. I'm not sure that she's open at the moment due to COVID, I don't see any newer adds. But if you are just looking to get groomed while keeping things fun, she's my go to.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/138547
She is extremely pretty, from Israel with a sexy accent. Her grooming services are separate from her additional services and I've only seen her for grooming. No extras were added and it cost 100. She'll offer full nude massage with body slides for an extra 220 but I can't speak on that.
https://sandiego.rubratings.com/169527
I have not seen these girls, but I'm super curious to check them out, If anyone has info about them let me know.
TugSpinosa
07-31-23, 11:26
I personally use the Witch Waxer. She works out of a salon in City Heights, El Cajon Blvd not too far from SDSU. I've been using her service for two years and never got the "there's extra" vibe from her. No extras but she does it all, including your anus. Check out her IG thewitchwaxer. She's a good looking mexicana with a nice a really nice peach.Good info thank you. You went way back to 2020 LOL.
SomeWonderer
07-31-23, 15:08
I personally use the Witch Waxer. She works out of a salon in City Heights, El Cajon Blvd not too far from SDSU. I've been using her service for two years and never got the "there's extra" vibe from her. No extras but she does it all, including your anus. Check out her IG thewitchwaxer. She's a good looking mexicana with a nice a really nice peach.I had issues with following her on IG. She also has two locations: San Diego and Temecula. So, you can also find her with all the details posted at https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bts/d/temecula-sugaring-hair-removal-services/7642441432.html.
PoonTangJohnny
07-31-23, 15:36
Yes, we all have to learn to walk away if we don't like what we see. I always say if the girls (FS spas) don't get me excited with her "clothes" on when I'm given a lineup then I walk away. If they don't honor your appointment time, leave and text the booker / MMS and tell them to f-off and post a review. If they do a bait and switch and tell you a masseuse is working when she's not, get dress and leave and ask for your money back then post a review.Absolutely, RC!
VIP customer service in this hobby, is everything! In return, I always arrive early or on time, I'm courteous, if I need to cancel for some reason I always let them know well in advance and I always arrive, freshly showered, teeth brushed, shaved and smelling very fresh (cologne & deodorant), and I do my own manscaping. Seeing 1 of these girls is a 2 way street / relationship. I know I've said this before, but you've got to be super fresh & clean if you expect some of these girls to be GFE+ in return. That's an absolute!
I think just about every monger here on the USASG, has to be a fan of Two and a half Men & Charlie Sheen (both his TV "escort loving player" character and his real life persona). Hell this guy was dating and banging Porn Star Ginger Lynn when he was a rising baby faced on screen motion picture star.
Which brings me to this hilarious scene I actually thought about that night I got fucked over at Rain on ECB. If I had it all to do over again. I would've driven back, stood outside right in front of their entry door in line with their surveillance camera, pulled out my wallet and flashed a few $$$ Benjamin's & shouted:
"You can never have this. Never. Never. Never! LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mar3UQv7JMI
Does anyone know where Angela is now? I saw her a few times Angel Spa on Picador Blvd.Long gone and you're better off. She put on weight and was not nearly as good as she was early on.
Best of luck.
-TJNiko.
RChangDatyKing
07-31-23, 17:24
Absolutely, RC!
VIP customer service in this hobby, is everything! In return, I always arrive early or on time, I'm courteous, if I need to cancel for some reason I always let them know well in advance and I always arrive, freshly showered, teeth brushed, shaved and smelling very fresh (cologne & deodorant), and I do my own manscaping. Seeing 1 of these girls is a 2 way street / relationship. I know I've said this before, but you've got to be super fresh & clean if you expect some of these girls to be GFE+ in return. That's an absolute!
I think just about every monger here on the USASG, has to be a fan of Two and a half Men & Charlie Sheen (both his TV "escort loving player" character and his real life persona). Hell this guy was dating and banging Porn Star Ginger Lynn when he was a rising baby faced on screen motion picture star.
Which brings me to this hilarious scene I actually thought about that night I got fucked over at Rain on ECB. If I had it all to do over again. I would've driven back, stood outside right in front of their entry door in line with their surveillance camera, pulled out my wallet and flashed a few $$$ Benjamin's & shouted:
"You can never have this. Never. Never. Never! LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mar3UQv7JMII agree with you about having impeccable hygiene. You must have it if you are wanting a GFE experience.
Last week I saw a masseuse for the second time and she engulfed junior because she liked how smooth my balls were and because I smelled fresh. If you work in an office setting and generally fresh and can't shower before your appointment, then use the alcohol spray or hand sanitizer in the room to clean yourself. I always carry individual mouthwash and wipes to clean myself in the bathroom before starting my sessions. Of course showering before going to an appointment is ideal.
RChangDatyKing
07-31-23, 17:32
Long gone and you're better off. She put on weight and was not nearly as good as she was early on.
Best of luck.o.Yes, she's no longer in the business. I ran into Angela at a restaurant on Convoy and agreed she's put on weight. Her face is still cute but she's a bit chunky for my taste now.
Here's my report. Looking for the big knockers intel pm me.
Unicorn spa. Went around 5 pm and was greeted by Ana she's not a looker but def not ugly or grandma status but her massage was super good, the HE not so good would repeat for the massage.
Diamond spa. On el cajon used to frequent this place and the rotation was decent a lot they had a lot of extras but they changed the management and girls. I've gone a couple of times and there has been a couple of cute girls YMMV.
Lucky Foot massage. In hillcrest on 5th usually the massage is pretty good but the girls are usually also older. Good massage decent HE.
Wildflower. Leah is awesome and she's got the big knockers massage is always good and the ending is always good would recommend.
RChangDatyKing
07-31-23, 19:06
I agree with you about having impeccable hygiene. You must have it if you are wanting a GFE experience.
Last week I saw a masseuse for the second time and she engulfed junior because she liked how smooth my balls were and because I smelled fresh. If you work in an office setting and generally fresh and can't shower before your appointment, then use the alcohol spray or hand sanitizer in the room to clean yourself. I always carry individual mouthwash and wipes to clean myself in the bathroom before starting my sessions. Of course showering before going to an appointment is ideal.Also, don't forget to eat your daily portion of fruits. Pineapple is best IMO because I am told I taste sweet every time I have it. I love when they lick all the pre cumm, then slurp up all the "water" as the ladies call it. LOL.
I just had an entire pineapple and looking forward to my appointment tonight.
July 24,2023 is a day that will live in my memory for quite some time. I contacted A to Z hoping to reconnect with Lily. I was told that Lily was not available but that I could have my choice of Baby or Cherry. I was initially reluctant to go but management seems to know what I like and suggested that I should come in and just take a look, no strings or expectations attached. I went ahead and made a reservation for my normal evening hour. When the time came, I let management know that I was outside and making my way in. I was greeted by mamasan and she immediately walked me to a room. From there she had me wait so she could bring in the ladies. Baby was the first to walk in and I was stunned. I immediately heard the drumbeat and piano keys of the Carla Thomas classic B-A-B-Y play in my head, followed by Carla Thomas's sweet voice. If you haven't heard the song, give it a listen. It'll set the mood for what came next. This young lady has a classic beauty and grace that is not often found in the establishments that we degenerates frequent. I know what I've said before, A to Z is on an upward trajectory bringing in new and ever more impressive providers, but you have to believe me that Baby is the best I've seen there so far. She truly is young. I'm not one to believe the hype when someone claims she's 22 but is obviously 35. Judging Baby in good light, I do not believe she lied about her age. If I remember correctly, she indicated that she was 24. And I believe it. She has the softest skin I've touched. She has the sweetest lips. She is a true beauty. Her breasts are small but supple, like those on the statue of a classical Greek sculpture. They cannot be more than B's, possibly small C's but they are fleshy in a teardrop shape. Her nipples are the sort that start soft but stand to firm attention if you get her excited. Her pussy is sweet scented and delicious and it trembles when you lick it right. I must have eaten that pussy for 30 minutes and it was worth every second. She is clearly newer and very unseasoned. She speaks little to no English. She acts unsure and nervous when receiving pleasure. But she excels at giving it. Her BBBJ is not tremendously sloppy but it's masterful. She made my cock feel loved. Her rhythmic movement in her hips made me think of Shakira when she gyrates slowly and the way she just grinds into your cock makes me hard when I recollect it. I'm not sure if I fell in love and that overwhelming emotion has taken control of my memory, but I would repeat daily. Unfortunately for me and you, dear reader, she is gone. I do not know when she will return, but I made it clear to mamasan that if she wants me to return, Baby must be part of the regular rotation.
I apologize for not making a more timely submission of my review as it's unlikely she'll be back very soon but I offer my commitment to you all to let you know when she returns but only after I get her first.
Good luck to you all.
-TJNiko.
I know that no one wants to give up their UTR information, but I'm just curious as to the line-up. Any info on who's cute, thin, young vs. Curvy with a nice rack?
Or just a link to an ad? I thought they occasionally posted on Rubrankings, but not finding anything.I've been away for 6 months but assuming she's still there, Isabella Jessica. Cute, young-ish, perky Bs with sensitive nips and smooth skin. YMMV.
JWalker350
08-01-23, 00:52
Yes, she's no longer in the business. I ran into Angela at a restaurant on Convoy and agreed she's put on weight. Her face is still cute but she's a bit chunky for my taste now.Did you mean Angela who used to work at a spa in Mission Valley, near the stadium?
RChangDatyKing
08-01-23, 01:11
Did you mean Angela who used to work at a spa in Mission Valley, near the stadium?Yes, I am talking about the Angela that started at Z Massage, then went to Paradise on Convoy, then went to Angel on Picardor in South Bay and Paradise Massage on Paradise Valley Road.
Do you have different information about her still being in the business?
HardRock365
08-01-23, 12:16
Yes, I am talking about the Angela that started at Z Massage, then went to Paradise on Convoy, then went to Angel on Picardor in South Bay and Paradise Massage on Paradise Valley Road.
Do you have different information about her still being in the business?Angela with the surprising nice big tits right?
PoonTangJohnny
08-01-23, 12:28
Joy: I'm guessing about 5'-1 or 2" a curvy little 100 lbs and I don't like guessing these girls ages but she has a younger look about her.
HF / Tip $$ for a Hhr Covered FS BBBJ DFK.
It was suggested that I give this new girl, Joy, a try, because she has the spinner type body I usually go for. I hate comparing these girls, but let me state this: I have yet to meet another AMP girl anywhere in this hobby who comes even close to Cici's smoking hot perfect spinner body in the spinner category! Just my opinion, that Cici's hot sexy little body is complete and total perfection!
So Ash set me up an appointment for 9 p. M earlier in the day. When I arrived on time I didn't have to wait because they weren't busy. I was greeted immediately in the lobby by Joy and taken to the 1st room on the right. Joy was dressed in exactly the same outfit that has been described- wearing these really short daisy duke type jean shorts and a little half top showing off her midriff. I took care of the HF / Tip and we got right down to business with her giving me a thorough cleaning. I always arrive clean, but hygiene is so very important to me, so this part of the AMP hobby is always expected & much appreciated.
Joy has a nice sexy little body and a fun playful attitude, and her DFK was very passionate and we had great chemistry there. But I just didn't feel that super hot connection like I feel when I'm with say, Cici or Sophia or. Don't get me wrong, I had a hot time and I would see her all over again, but I'm not sure I'll repeat only because the connection I feel when I'm with these other ladies, is unparalleled. The 1 bummer I experienced with Joy was, she had such a hot set of fucking tits. Yet she would hardly let me touch them, because in her word's, they are very ticklish. Actually it was kind of a hot turn on tease. Being able to look but you can't play with. LOL.
The 3 girls they have working here at Erma (Joy May & Fiona), are all very different, so if you do ever visit I would suggest doing a preview with all 3 if they're not busy and see if any of these ladies are your type.
Tonight was kind of a rarity for me. After Joy finished cleaning me up, she gave me a nice relaxing 10 minute back rub. Then left the room to clean herself up and brush her teeth. & during this time I saw May on the monitor walk a customer to the front lobby and say her goodbyes, then just as she was returning inside the hallway I opened my door and pulled her inside with me. She had a big smile on her face and was looking so pretty! She immediately hugged me and told me she missed me (yeah right I know I've heard that line before LOL)! I really love this ladies beautiful smile and her long dimples / facial features. I would describe May as a really hot MILF type.
Anyway, we were immediately lipped locked and passionately DFK for a couple of minutes. Which got me all excited all over again & he (that other head) started thinking about a possible Round 2?! So I did some negotiating to see if I get a QV deal without having to pay a HF and it worked! May came back to the room cleaned me up again. And then we got right down to business- BBBJ with lots of spit and hot eye contact. Put a cover on and then she got up in CG and complete and totally, fucked my brains out (my IQ is now down to an imbecile 69- thanks a lot May LOL)! I know I sound like a stuck record. But this lady loves to fuck really hard, and looks so fucking hot when she's really getting into it! Then up on the table hitting that kitty so hard in mish. Looking at her beautiful face etched in ecstasy and then down at those sexy legs spread and wet kitty with my cock going in and out. BOOM! 2nd "O!
All in all, a pretty hot fun evening! Thank you ladies! Who needs to travel to SE Asia. When we have all this hot fun right here in San Diego!?
Also, don't forget to eat your daily portion of fruits. Pineapple is best IMO because I am told I taste sweet every time I have it. I love when they lick all the pre cumm, then slurp up all the "water" as the ladies call it. LOL. I just had an entire pineapple and looking forward to my appointment tonight.You had me at- "Pineapple" Bro! Way TMI! LOL.
And yes, I also ate fresh pineapple, watermelon, blueberries. I gave Joy a nice dessert of my own right on that hot tongue of hers sticking out as she was BBBJ / stroking finishing me off.
July 24,2023 is a day that will live in my memory for quite some time. I contacted A to Z hoping to reconnect with Lily.
Baby is the best I've seen there so far. She truly is young. I'm not one to believe the hype when someone claims she's 22 but is obviously 35. Judging Baby in good light, I do not believe she lied about her age. If I remember correctly, she indicated that she was 24. And I believe it. She has the softest skin I've touched. She has the sweetest lips. She is a true beauty. Her breasts are small but supple, like those on the statue of a classical Greek sculpture. They cannot be more than B's, possibly small C's but they are fleshy in a teardrop shape. Her nipples are the sort that start soft but stand to firm attention if you get her excited. Her pussy is sweet scented and delicious and it trembles when you lick it right. I must have eaten that pussy for 30 minutes and it was worth every second.
I apologize for not making a more timely submission of my review as it's unlikely she'll be back very soon but I offer my commitment to you all to let you know when she returns but only after I get her first..You write the most amazing articulate reviews, TJ Niko!
Man! I would've kept this girl UTR too! I've never driven that far South (CV) to visit an AMP. But after reading this, I would definitely be willing to make an exception for this young little hottie. Better late than never- Thanks for sharing, brother! Oh & please tell this MMS that PTJ is pleading with her to "BBB!" Bring Baby Back! I hope that you got Baby's phone number!
RChangDatyKing
08-01-23, 13:08
Angela with the surprising nice big tits right?They were more than a handful and mouthful. LOL.
I've been away for 6 months but assuming she's still there, Isabella Jessica. Cute, young-ish, perky Bs with sensitive nips and smooth skin. YMMV.Luckily Rubrankings is back up.
Hi there,
Will be in town in a few months and doing some early recon. Generally a just like a good massage with he but sometimes open to FS at a good place. Does anyone recommend a place to check out near the Omni La Costa in Carlsbad where I will be staying?
PoonTangJohnny
08-01-23, 20:58
Hi there,
Will be in town in a few months and doing some early recon. Generally a just like a good massage with he but sometimes open to FS at a good place. Does anyone recommend a place to check out near the Omni La Costa in Carlsbad where I will be staying?The Omni is pretty close just down the hill from me. I can say quite confidently, that Carlsbad local Government / LEO, run a pretty tight ship. You might possibly have some luck finding limited action in this general area, but you'll probably have to search pretty hard. Perhaps other member's here can weigh in, or you might have better luck searching / posting in the North County thread. The closest FS locations where I know you'll be able to find some HE / FS action / fun would be the Grotto Foot Spa / Flanders down South, near Mira Mesa Blvd or maybe Sunny's Ocean up North on Mission Ave in Oceanside.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5061-North-County
Either way, best of luck. Feel free to DM me when you do eventually get into town, perhaps I'll be able to share some more helpful Intel at that time.
You write the most amazing articulate reviews, TJ Niko!
Man! I would've kept this girl UTR too! I've never driven that far South (CV) to visit an AMP. But after reading this, I would definitely be willing to make an exception for this young little hottie. Better late than never- Thanks for sharing, brother! Oh & please tell this MMS that PTJ is pleading with her to "BBB!" Bring Baby Back! I hope that you got Baby's phone number!Check your PMs, buddy.
-TJNiko.
HappyPlaces
08-02-23, 07:06
Had to inquire about good old Lulu at you spa.
I hit up the number and was told she might be back as early as this Friday.
Toodle loo. Love you all.
TrackGuy22
08-02-23, 12:09
Is it a non FS with a standard finish or nothing at all? I'll be in the area on travel for a little bit here in a couple weeks, would appreciate any mongers giving me a good contact for a good massage with standard finish but not needing FS. Thanks!
After I got home, showered and unpacked I decided to go back out to see one of my favorite cutie at Spa Capri. I love this spot. The place is clean, has nice rooms, standing showers if I needed one after my massage. There are a couple ladies I repeat with here regularly. IMO they have a great lineup and some of the most cutest girls at a nonFS spa. Since we all see beauty differently and YMWV at nonFS I'll let you all decide your favorites here. Price is $40/ hhr, $60/45 minutes and $70/ hour. I am now satisfied!
HardRock365
08-02-23, 12:14
Check your PMs, buddy.
-TJNiko.Your PMs are full bro. Haha.
Your PMs are full bro. Haha.I made some room earlier today.
BallaStPoint
08-02-23, 19:17
Like everything else in this hobby, the only constant is change.
Apple spa rotated out their girl. SD lost a premier PM provider. Top notch head and foot massage too.
Asian spa on ECB is also rotating out. Back to China for 2 months. No idea who the replacement is. They said "younger", but they always say that.
I'll miss both those two.
Ended up trying out Luxe after all the talk. "As advertised", but pretty mechanical. No one else came in, but it still felt rushed. I could see it getting better with repeats, but I'm not sure I'll be back.
When I was new to the hobby, I went to Yeliya a few times in that same parking lot. It's been closed for years, but one thing I liked about that place is that they'd ask upfront if I wanted 90 minutes. Owners like 90 minutes for the HF, providers like HHR for the tips and quick turnaround. That place had a (really cute) receptionist who pushed the providers to ask for 90 minutes.
Back to searching for more nonFS regulars for my rotation. Anything good out there?Been to Asian spa many times. Was also told by Cici that she's taking a much needed vacation and a new girl will be there. So last Friday stopped by and was introduced to Coco. Long black hair, age maybe 30's, shorts and tank top, was cute looking. Well the massage was very sensual from the start with her on top of me massaging me and grinding on me. Lots of teasing also while still faced down. Had to flip over and she asked what I wanted. Sure everything was on the menu, but just asked for oral which I received. Did little dfk and lifted her top revealing nice b's to suck on. Then she went downtown, wasn't the best but got the job done. Tipped 80 for the nice massage and told her going to visit again soon. She's a keeper.
CoffeeLake1151
08-02-23, 20:16
Long gone and you're better off. She put on weight and was not nearly as good as she was early on.
Best of luck.
-TJNiko.Thanks for the update!
Just curious, are there any decent places north of clairmont / kerney mesa? All of the reviews I see are for places really far south.
Just curious, are there any decent places north of clairmont / kerney mesa? All of the reviews I see are for places really far south.There are a handful in the Sorrento Valley / Mira Mesa areas. Flanders, Grotto, Erma. There's also a North county thread for more northern locations.
I tried to find this one on ECB, couldn't find one on g maps but got a hit on yelp went to that place on Ecb / had different name yet went with it, totally legit msg 50/ hr place. It was already pretty late drove west, went to Vivi's something only one that said would take 1 hr appointment, should have just left with the first try wasted more $ for a he, won't repeat. I need a place with sensual stuff I don't care for FS, I like when the massage gets on top and rubs you down.
Been to Asian spa many times. Was also told by Cici that she's taking a much needed vacation and a new girl will be there. So last Friday stopped by and was introduced to Coco. Long black hair, age maybe 30's, shorts and tank top, was cute looking. Well the massage was very sensual from the start with her on top of me massaging me and grinding on me. Lots of teasing also while still faced down. Had to flip over and she asked what I wanted. Sure everything was on the menu, but just asked for oral which I received. Did little dfk and lifted her top revealing nice b's to suck on. Then she went downtown, wasn't the best but got the job done. Tipped 80 for the nice massage and told her going to visit again soon. She's a keeper.
Sadddkdwwws
08-03-23, 14:16
I've seen Cici (or maybe she goes by Kiki) at Luxe for about a dozen times now. She used to also be at another place down the street. For you mongers that like a decent massage she can deliver a decent massage. There's a room with a rack on the ceiling where she can walk on your back as well. Overall the massage is a decent 7/10 for an AMP. I don't do FS with her and don't get that vibe from her but she will finish with a BBBJCIM. Overall the BJ is decent but the last couple of times she threw in the towel early and grabbed some oil and stroked me to completion. Although I would tell her when I was ready to blow so she would obediently stick it back in her mouth. As for her personality it's pretty subdued and I wouldn't expect any of the histrionics some of the younger AMP girls do when you come see them. As for her age my guess is somewhere in the 45-50 range with a decent body and ok face. If you're like me and enjoy a decent therapeutic massage followed by a BBBJ then she might be worth a visit. She's consistent but not my go-to girl and is usually my backup option. If you need FS from a young spinner and could give two shits on the massage quality or prefer a "what massage" type of experience then you can skip her. The cost is. 60 per hour and I leave a $ tip.
In comparison, I prefer Lulu at you-Spa since I think her massage quality is better and her BBBJCIM is a much better quality. Also Melissa Karin does a nice massage and she will do an upgraded BBBJ finish but she wants $$$ for that experience. If there are any mongers like me out there who have similar tastes when it comes to receiving a quality massage that finishes in a solid BBBJ I would appreciate any AMP or Independent recommendations and feel free to PM me if it's an UTR girl I would need to visit a few times to establish trust with.
BallaStPoint
08-03-23, 17:41
I tried to find this one on ECB, couldn't find one on g maps but got a hit on yelp went to that place on Ecb / had different name yet went with it, totally legit msg 50/ hr place. It was already pretty late drove west, went to Vivi's something only one that said would take 1 hr appointment, should have just left with the first try wasted more $ for a he, won't repeat. I need a place with sensual stuff I don't care for FS, I like when the massage gets on top and rubs you down.This place is on 4660 El cajon blvd, #101. It's a few businesses east of that legit massage place you may have visited. But unfortunately when I went back for round two this morning, place was closed. I got her digits, but haven't gotten a reply back yet.
I've seen Cici (or maybe she goes by Kiki) at Luxe for about a dozen times now. She used to also be at another place down the street. For you mongers that like a decent massage she can deliver a decent massage. There's a room with a rack on the ceiling where she can walk on your back as well. Overall the massage is a decent 7/10 for an AMP. I don't do FS with her and don't get that vibe from her but she will finish with a BBBJCIM. Overall the BJ is decent but the last couple of times she threw in the towel early and grabbed some oil and stroked me to completion. Although I would tell her when I was ready to blow so she would obediently stick it back in her mouth. As for her personality it's pretty subdued and I wouldn't expect any of the histrionics some of the younger AMP girls do when you come see them. As for her age my guess is somewhere in the 45-50 range with a decent body and ok face. If you're like me and enjoy a decent therapeutic massage followed by a BBBJ then she might be worth a visit. She's consistent but not my go-to girl and is usually my backup option. If you need FS from a young spinner and could give two shits on the massage quality or prefer a "what massage" type of experience then you can skip her. The cost is. 60 per hour and I leave a $ tip.
In comparison, I prefer Lulu at you-Spa since I think her massage quality is better and her BBBJCIM is a much better quality. Also Melissa Karin does a nice massage and she will do an upgraded BBBJ finish but she wants $$$ for that experience. If there are any mongers like me out there who have similar tastes when it comes to receiving a quality massage that finishes in a solid BBBJ I would appreciate any AMP or Independent recommendations and feel free to PM me if it's an UTR girl I would need to visit a few times to establish trust with.I had the exact same experience with Cici at Luxe. First time BBBJCIM, second time more recently, just like you said. She is close so it is convenient, but I think I am going to have to make a maiden voyage to You Spa. Thanks for the review. I have my regular at Leisure, but sometimes you need some strange.
I've seen Cici (or maybe she goes by Kiki) at Luxe for about a dozen times now.Good, and incredibly accurate report. Great massage and she's a provider who learns personal preferences, and remembers them well.
HermanMiller
08-03-23, 22:31
I had the exact same experience with Cici at Luxe. First time BBBJCIM, second time more recently, just like you said. She is close so it is convenient, but I think I am going to have to make a maiden voyage to You Spa. Thanks for the review. I have my regular at Leisure, but sometimes you need some strange.Kandace on rubranking gives a solid BBBJ, with decent massage.
Can you give me some pointers here, is it on the same side of the road or the other, just drop a gps point here so I can use street view. Thanks.
This place is on 4660 El cajon blvd, #101. It's a few businesses east of that legit massage place you may have visited. But unfortunately when I went back for round two this morning, place was closed. I got her digits, but haven't gotten a reply back yet.
I just wanted to pass along to my cyber friends a new girl at Erma Spa named Joy. Basically, a call to MMS resulted in a few photos to sell me but I usually figure they are equivalents and also usually way better than the actual person. Nope, turns out the photos, which were phenomenal, were actually Joy. Young, thin, with exceptional curves. Either an upside or downside depending on your preferences is a chest tattoo but my god there was too much going on everywhere else to even care. Just. I'm not sure if I could have created a better beauty with AI. Seriously. About 5'1" or 5'2", early 20's. She spoke pretty good English, said she was Korean.
Also, the service was the full monty. Kissing, BBJCIM etc. Hey, it's early in the day and I got to do other things so my apologies for not telling a story about how she greeted me at the door, going into the room, getting comfortable yadda yadda. Just sharing some info and I will sleep well tonight knowing I didn't keep it to myself.
Any intel on this place? "Chi" is a horrible search term and "Oriental" didn't help.
Feel free to PM, info appreciated.
Mad.
Any intel on this place? "Chi" is a horrible search term and "Oriental" didn't help.
Feel free to PM, info appreciated.
Mad.I drove by a couple weeks ago and it looked closed, but it's possible they just changed ownership. In my experience there's only been one girl working when I go in, but it's possible there's a mms too. I always hear chatter when waiting in the room. The typical women I see usually fall in the 40-50 range. They will accommodate BBBJ, reluctantly, but don't know if it's FS. I just say I can't nut otherwise. The girls are not lookers by any means, but always friendly. This is always one of my quickie last resort spots, but I can't recommend unless you're in a bind. Would love to know if ownership has indeed changed, that might make a huge difference. Much like when Unique Foot Spa changed hands. Good luck.
Title says it all. Any providers that offer this service without insane up charge?
I drove by a couple weeks ago and it looked closed, but it's possible they just changed ownership. In my experience there's only been one girl working when I go in, but it's possible there's a mms too. I always hear chatter when waiting in the room. The typical women I see usually fall in the 40-50 range. They will accommodate BBBJ, reluctantly, but don't know if it's FS. I just say I can't nut otherwise. The girls are not lookers by any means, but always friendly. This is always one of my quickie last resort spots, but I can't recommend unless you're in a bind. Would love to know if ownership has indeed changed, that might make a huge difference. Much like when Unique Foot Spa changed hands. Good luck.Thanks. Interesting. I called, they are open but seemed more expensive than most places, so I thought maybe they were special in some way. (. 5 hhr / 0 hr).
Jaguar300ZX
08-05-23, 01:11
…a new girl at Erma Spa named Joy. a call to MMS resulted in a few photos, turns out the photos, which were phenomenal were actually Joy, …my apologies for not telling a story...A picture is worth a thousand words, .if ya catch my drift.
DrPornDawger
08-05-23, 17:23
Ashley contacted me about the talents at Erma Yumi and May were available. I think someone else has reviewed May on here.
Got Yumi.
5'2 30-40,33 small C cleaned shaven round face long hair (probably mid back) she had a pony tail on. Nice lips English ok.
Massage requested was hard and she delivered. Got the knots out.
The flip happened and she went to town on me. She DT and sucked on it for a good amount of time. I kept myself from blowing to soon. Went for some 69 and she kept on sucking and licking shaft. I flicked her clit with my tongue and inserted a finger for her Gspot. She loved my DATY session so much, she quivered and grinded on my face to get her O. Covered me up and mounted me. She rode me and positioned her pussy and kept grinding at an angle that got her to O again and she collapsed on my chest. I kept fucking her and she was on cloud 9. I pumped her as she was laying on top of me, her body was reacting to my slow and fast and quick pumping. I picked her up and layer her down and we were sitting mish. I slid in and out of her rubbing her clit some more and she was loving every minute of it. I neared my climax and she tore the rubber off and I finished with CIM. She spit it out and told me That was A Lot.
Cleaned up and off my merry way.
BigMikeTyke
08-05-23, 17:41
TOFTT on this one fellas. But it was great.
I kind of like going to new places to see how legit they are. This one seeeems legit but I'm not sure.
Pulled Lilly. Asian, didn't get a good look at her. Requested 'glutes' on the form.
A few grazes over the hour long session, but nothing explicit. Got to flip. Everything over the sheet, but it seemed very sexual. Making the sheet move up and down over my solidly hard member.
Might go back and see if I can push it a bit.
DrPornDawger
08-05-23, 18:15
Saw a review on May and had to come back and end my night to find what's all about May.
Texted Ashley and set up an appt.
May 5'5, 32 B cup natural no implants. Long hair oval face.
She gave a nice hard body rub and she focused on my lower back and shoulders as requested. Got to my hamstrings and calves and really worked her technique to get the knots out. So good it made me fall asleep. Woke up to her light fingers brushing me and wiped away the extra oil.
Flipped over and she rubbed and wiped me down. My cock was coming up for attention. She undressed straddled me and started with a tongue bath and titty massage. She used her nipples to waken my dick up. She used her tongue to lick the tip of my dick and then licked down my shaft for some ball sucking as she used her fingernails to stimulate my nether region. She didn't insert all that way but enough to excite me for full hardon. That's a first for me. With some more DT and quick and slow tip action, it felt great. Suited up and she mounted me. She rode me hard to the point that I though the table would break. Her body was shaking and she tapped out and asked me to take the reins. Started with K9 and she pushed deeper into me. Flipped her around for mish and this is where she O again as I slammed with deep and shallow thrusts as I massaged her clit. Her body was shaking as dumped into the bag.
She thanked me for giving her nice relaxing O.
Member #6585
08-05-23, 18:40
Writing this in the Erma parking lot. Just wanted to toss in my vote and say that I highly vouch for Joy. Funds are somewhat limited for me right now so I haven't been able to participate in the hobby at all lately, but I was able to scrounge together the hf and a solid tip and felt like my money was very very well spent.
She looks young and was extremely nice and playful with me. I got along with her really well and we had a great time. She mentioned she might be going on her period soon so might be out the next few days or so but I loved her. She's such a sexy, small girl and walks into the room with these tiny little booty shorts and strapless crop top. I think the tits are enhanced but they look amazing on her tiny frame. Great little booty on her, and gorgeous coochie that I enjoyed devouring. She was very vocal and I was able to make her cum! She might be a good actress but it was nice to be with a girl who was genuinely into the session and also enjoying herself as much as I was enjoying her. She's extremely pretty and I echo the sentiment of her looking Korean although she's not.
She said she'd probably be here for the next month! I worry she might get lots of eager mongers and I hope she doesn't burn out! Be nice fellas she's def one of my favorites.
Happy to answer any questions if why'all have any, I know the economy sucks right now so if I can help with making sure you feel confident or not with your choice I'd be happy to help.
BallaStPoint
08-07-23, 13:45
Can you give me some pointers here, is it on the same side of the road or the other, just drop a gps point here so I can use street view. Thanks.Try googling this restaurant Hoai Hue restaurant, it's on the opposite side of the parking lot entrance. You enter both places right from the side walk. But the spa is still not open from what I can tell.
Asian_Pimp
08-07-23, 16:48
I will be making a trip down to SD this weekend. Want to see if anyone can provide any info on a parlor where the provider does RIMMING. Thanks in advance.
RChangDatyKing
08-08-23, 14:43
Has anyone gotten a massage from the front desk / manager at Diamond in La Mesa? She's cute in a GND kind of way and seems friendly. The legendary Eva is still here but she's getting "old" for my liking. I'm sure she still gives a great massage and ending but I want a massage from that manager. LOL. There are however a couple of cuties here though that's worth a visit when I'm in the area.
Does anybody know if Summer is still around?
HF. 6/ hr. 4/ hhr.
Walked in, MMS collected HF and guided me to one of the many rooms.
Stripped down and in comes Summer. An attractive young lady with a very pretty face. She wore a short black skirt, a black top that revealed her midriff (unfortunately a little extra covid padding there). Did not wear a bra but had pasties over her nipples.
The initial massage was good and there was some teasing before the flip. Clean up before flip.
OTC touching was allowed, HJ was nice and sensual. Did not exercise the $100 total tip option for topless during HJ, just stuck with regular OTC roaming.
This seems to be a reliable spot for a good massage with a standard HJ as this was not my first time there.
Member #6540
08-08-23, 23:59
Have been to wildflower a handful of times (Tina does a great job) been to soothing spa once (felt very transactional and camera screens in room) mamasan had some great boobs though, thought I'd try the only place I hadn't been to on Tierra grande relax station. 40 for hh 60 he, don't think I'd repeat. Lulu was nice but didn't seem too into it, clothes stayed on, massage was not too great. Also I guess I'm normally looking for non FS so maybe others have had different experiences at relax station or soothing.
Sadddkdwwws
08-09-23, 00:29
Guys who are your current go-to girls for a solid therapeutic massage that finishes with FS. I know that's a loaded question for the AMP scene but an example of what I'm referring to would be a massage similar to what Cici provided who was recently working at Erma but she's rotated out and won't be back till next month.
I visited a different girl on Friday but Summer did collect my HF.
Does anybody know if Summer is still around?
PoonTangJohnny
08-09-23, 12:19
Taylor, Me Spa 1 full hour sesh at closing time: A perfect non-interruption passionate / intense hot connection with 1 of the hottest sexiest bodies you'll ever find at an AMP!
HF $.6 Tip $$2.2 2 Pops! GFE+/ DFK / BBBJCIM / BBCS / CW / HJ / CFS fucking those sexy hot tits with lots of hot spit eye contact and dirty talk. I can't emphasize this enough: If you're unable to GFE connect with this lady- I'm sorry, but that's on you; likely either a hygienic issue or maybe she's just not attracted, or just not into you- who knows?
What can I say that hasn't already been said, about this smoking hot absolutely gorgeous, exotic, passionate, insatiable mind blowing starlet nymph? She's back to using her other name, Taylor and asked that I not mention the other name she's used and is well known for in the past at a few of the other locations here in San Diego (Super Spa University / Diamond on 6th Ave).
There isn't another woman in this hobby, that I connect with or who can turn me on, the way this amazing vixen does! We've seen each other so many times now, that we both know exactly how to push each other buttons and every single time we connect, the excitement level only gets hotter and more intense. This may be her job. But she's clearly loves her job when she's fucking / making love to me!
Last night with this beautiful fantasy hot dark haired, exotic almond shaped eyes, sultry vixen, was like shooting another porn movie. And I'm that lucky mother fucker that the producer's keep asking to come back and play with her because our chemistry / connection is that mesmerizing electric!
It was another awesome adventure at the water park playing with that pretty little wet kitty! If this chick is really into you, she will cum more than woman I've ever been with. She had at least, 8 to 10 to 12 hot squirting O's, I honestly lost count. My face was dripping wet with her love juices! Nobody, IMO, looks more fantasy hot, that this woman intensely staring up at me engaging, making love to my rock hard cock with her beautiful face mouth and hot tongue looking up at me. It's mind blowing just watching her spit all over my hard cock and telling me how much she loves me and her dirty talk is so fucking hot. And hand's down the most passionately hot DFK kisser in the hobby! That wicked hot tongue of hers is always pleasuring me non-stop throughout our entire sesh, whether it's on my cock or in my mouth, licking my tongue & lips. And that curvaceous toned sexy hot body, in every single position especially CG / Mish / K9 are the hottest visuals I've enjoyed in this hobby! "PLEASE DON"T STOP FUCKING ME DADDY (as she's intensely staring back into my eyes in K9 with her head shaking side to side in ecstacy telling me) - I love it!" < I fucking love every single second I play this chick!
I was her very last customer last night and booked for a solid hour, and got right about an hour and 10 minutes. Taylor always gives me 2 hot pops when we do an hour. Last night we had a little extra time so she gave me an awesome deep tissue massage, which felt amazing and my overworked muscles really needed.
I realize that this has been discussed ad-nauseam- judging these AMP ladies looks here using a numerical scale. The connection we make / feel with certain AMP provider's, will always vary and will always be totally subjective / YMWV! I honestly don't care what score other hobbyist here (possibly competition / shills with ulterior motives) may give this amazing woman, I'll just suffice it to say: She's FUCKING HOT! And she's the hottest / most passionate fuck of my life!
What I really love about this special lady, is that she's such a sweet happy genuine person, and she has such a fun loving sense of humor / personality & she's VERY intelligent; we've never once, needed a translator.
This woman makes it pretty damn easy for me, to be a low volume AMP hobbyist. I'm getting close to 40 play dates with this amazing porn starlet. And I'll be seeing her again very soon.
I checked out Seasons Spa on El Cajon Blvd for the first time. My objective was to scope this non-FS place out for young, fun, cute and small. While there, I think I saw 3 unique ladies there and all three were older than 50 or 60. And the ladies were definitely not cute to my liking.
I think Lily or possibly Lulu was my masseuse and I would rate the experience as just okay. She allowed some OTC touching and grabbing. I did not press really hard for UTC contact mostly because I wasn't sexually motivated to do so. I give her points for her charm as she did her best to convince me I was big. I also giver her points for going 5 to 10 minutes past the scheduled time. And of course, she delivered the HE to completion which is not an easy task to do for me.
The place seemed busy as I must have heard one guy leave and about 3 chimes of new guys coming in during my 1 hr appointment. This being said, I don't think I will be adding this place to my rotation unless somebody on this forum chimes in with a recommendation for a younger and cuter gal.
I will be making a trip down to SD this weekend. Want to see if anyone can provide any info on a parlor where the provider does RIMMING. Thanks in advance.I can't guarantee it, but you can try Grotto in Sorrento Valley. I have only been there twice, but have been 2 for 2 so YMMV. Grotto seems to cycle their gals out frequently so I cannot speak to their current set of gals. Take note they have a standup shower so it might help to request with your masseuse that you take a shower first. This way you can eliminate any questions about hygiene. Good luck!
BillyBatson
08-09-23, 17:12
I got a hold of some insider info I wanted to share. There is a new massage parlor opening on Main St. In Chula Vista. It's near the Arizona Chinese restaurant. It's going to be called something like "LZ Bamboo Massage".
It's still under construction but I suggest we keep an eye on it.
Canuck6234
08-09-23, 18:08
Taylor, Me Spa 1 full hour sesh at closing time: A perfect non-interruption passionate / intense hot connection with 1 of the hottest sexiest bodies you'll ever find at an AMP!
HF $.6 Tip $$2.2 2 Pops! GFE+/ DFK / BBBJCIM / BBCS / CW / HJ / CFS fucking those sexy hot tits with lots of hot spit eye contact and dirty talk. I can't emphasize this enough: If you're unable to GFE connect with this lady- I'm sorry, but that's on you; likely either a hygienic issue or maybe she's just not attracted, or just not into you- who knows?
What can I say that hasn't already been said, about this smoking hot absolutely gorgeous, exotic, passionate, insatiable mind blowing starlet nymph? She's back to using her other name, Taylor and asked that I not mention the other name she's used and is well known for in the past at a few of the other locations here in San Diego (Super Spa University / Diamond on 6th Ave).
There isn't another woman in this hobby, that I connect with or who can turn me on, the way this amazing vixen does! We've seen each other so many times now, that we both know exactly how to push each other buttons and every single time we connect, the excitement level only gets hotter and more intense. This may be her job. But she's clearly loves her job when she's fucking / making love to me!
Last night with this beautiful fantasy hot dark haired, exotic almond shaped eyes, sultry vixen, was like shooting another porn movie. And I'm that lucky mother fucker that the producer's keep asking to come back and play with her because our chemistry / connection is that mesmerizing electric!
It was another awesome adventure at the water park playing with that pretty little wet kitty! If this chick is really into you, she will cum more than woman I've ever been with. She had at least, 8 to 10 to 12 hot squirting O's, I honestly lost count. My face was dripping wet with her love juices!
I realize that this has been discussed ad-nauseam- judging these AMP ladies looks here using a numerical scale. The connection we make / feel with certain AMP provider's, will always vary and will always be totally subjective / YMWV! I honestly don't care what score other hobbyist here (possibly competition / shills with ulterior motives) may give this amazing woman, I'll just suffice it to say: She's FUCKING HOT! And she's the hottest / most passionate fuck of my life!
What I really love about this special lady, is that she's such a sweet happy genuine person, and she has such a fun loving sense of humor / personality & she's VERY intelligent; we've never once, needed a translator.
This woman makes it pretty damn easy for me, to be a low volume AMP hobbyist. I'm getting close to 40 play dates with this amazing porn starlet. And I'll be seeing her again very soon.Well damn PTJ. Your report on Taylor sure got my attention. I truly enjoy water park adventures and your report is calling out to me. When I saw the length of your report (I edited to save some bandwidth, you should read the full original) I could tell how excited you were about this lady.
I now have a Me Spa visit planned. I hope to play in the water park and get drenched on the splash pad. Thanks for sharing.
I haven't used RM for a long time because of all the shill reporting. I visited today to find there's a BBFS option to search when using the FS parameter. I noticed there were several spas on there that are discussed on this thread but I've never read any reports on here of it. Not to say it's not happening but I'm sure a monger here would have reported on it. I know chemistry is everything (lookin' at you RChang) but just curious about the validity or if it's just more schill / gaslighting to get customers in the door. Stay safe out there.
DD.
AlohaVibessd
08-09-23, 23:22
Moved out to Spring Valley and would like some input. How would you guys rank W, Lucky, and Amber? Looking to make my first visit this week.
Jaguar300ZX
08-09-23, 23:34
I haven't used RM for a long time because of all the shill reporting. I visited today to find there's a BBFS option to search when using the FS parameter. I noticed there were several spas on there that are discussed on this thread but I've never read any reports on here of it. Not to say it's not happening but I'm sure a monger here would have reported on it. I know chemistry is everything (lookin' at you RChang) but just curious about the validity or if it's just more schill / gaslighting to get customers in the door. Stay safe out there. DD.Yeah, I also saw the new BBFS search option om RM.
It's just a new way for Shills to take their Fake reports to the next level.
Thank you. Will have to see her again soon then.
I visited a different girl on Friday but Summer did collect my HF.
TOFTT on this one fellas. But it was great.
I kind of like going to new places to see how legit they are. This one seeeems legit but I'm not sure.
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Might go back and see if I can push it a bit.I haven't been there since pre-covid. Used to be totally legit and I'd get a reasonable good massage from time to time. My gf used to go all the time with her gf's for ladies massage day then lunch. If they've changed their business model, might be worth it to test drive it again.
TugSpinosa
08-10-23, 10:57
Taylor, Me Spa 1 full hour sesh at closing time: A perfect non-interruption passionate / intense hot connection with 1 of the hottest sexiest bodies you'll ever find at an AMP!
HF $.6 Tip $$2.2 2 Pops! GFE+/ DFK / BBBJCIM / BBCS / CW / HJ / CFS fucking those sexy hot tits with lots of hot spit eye contact and dirty talk. I can't emphasize this enough: If you're unable to GFE connect with this lady- I'm sorry, but that's on you; likely either a hygienic issue or maybe she's just not attracted, or just not into you- who knows?
What can I say that hasn't already been said, about this smoking hot absolutely gorgeous, exotic, passionate, insatiable mind blowing starlet nymph? She's back to using her other name, Taylor and asked that
This woman makes it pretty damn easy for me, to be a low volume AMP hobbyist. I'm getting close to 40 play dates with this amazing porn starlet. And I'll be seeing her again very soon.Last time she was reported on. I ended up setting up an appointment close to closing time. Mamasan was eager to get me there. Felt kinda rush can't recall much did get her number as she said she was moving. Maybe got bait and switched who knows number ended in 3999. I may have to go again.
SDJaziKing
08-10-23, 12:39
I haven't used RM for a long time because of all the shill reporting. I visited today to find there's a BBFS option to search when using the FS parameter. I noticed there were several spas on there that are discussed on this thread but I've never read any reports on here of it. Not to say it's not happening but I'm sure a monger here would have reported on it. I know chemistry is everything (lookin' at you RChang) but just curious about the validity or if it's just more schill / gaslighting to get customers in the door. Stay safe out there.
DD.If there's BBFS search filter, I wouldn't even try the girls even if it's true.
PoonTangJohnny
08-10-23, 13:05
Last time she was reported on. I ended up setting up an appointment close to closing time. Mamasan was eager to get me there. Felt kinda rush can't recall much did get her number as she said she was moving. Maybe got bait and switched who knows number ended in 3999. I may have to go again.
Well damn PTJ. Your report on Taylor sure got my attention. I truly enjoy water park adventures and your report is calling out to me. When I saw the length of your report (I edited to save some bandwidth, you should read the full original) I could tell how excited you were about this lady.
I now have a Me Spa visit planned. I hope to play in the water park and get drenched on the splash pad. Thanks for sharing.TS & Canuck (Brother from the North): PM's sent to both of you.
I don't have all the answers, but I will offer a few helpful suggestions / advice that seem to work for me when partaking in this hobby (all venues AMPs / Independents / Escorts) I'm no longer the Casanova that I once was. But I still work very hard to stay in top physical condition / health. I practice eating a very healthy diet, I work out / exercise almost every single day (countless hours paddle board sports in the Ocean / sit ups / push ups / bar dips) and when I have an appointment for 1 of these hot dates, like I did with Taylor a couple of nights ago, here's my routine:
- I almost always book an appointment so that I'll be my provider's very last customer for the evening, so there will be absolutely no interruptions. This right here is what got me so many of the fantasy porn hot threesome sesh's at several of the Spa's I played at.
- I always take a long shower about a half hour before I'm on my way. I shave, I do a little man-scaping, brush my teeth, put on Secret Shower fresh deodorant, CK Obsession cologne, pick out some fresh clean smelling cloths that I want / let my counterpart help undress me out of. Part of the seduction. I never get undressed a lay down on a table and simply wait. Unless Mina was there. I'm always the QB calling the plays! LOL.
-When I arrive (always on time or a little early), I text (in this case Taylor's personal number) and I wait for her usually immediate response "please come I'm waiting for you. " I'm always warmly greeted at the door with a big smile and her looking amazing all made / dressed up per my requests. And off we go to our special room where I can't wait for our porno hot experience to begin.
I usually try to bring a small token gift like a thing of Lindor chocolate truffles, which is always appreciated. I've also brought and given various color pairs of fishnet thigh high stocking for these girls to model for me.
-I always bring my JBL flip 4 bluetooth and my phone preset with some upbeat +++ Vibe Pandora music to enhance our fantasy time together.
When I used to go to my private after hours fun over at VIP 2 in Hillcrest (which Mina always arranged for me) with Mina / Cici / Amber / Daisy & Layla, I would bring candles and usually a bottle of Bubbly Sparkling Pink Moscato. I can still remember Amber and Cici really getting into the music and asking me to show her the Pandora station and song I was playing and the taking cell pics of the wine bottle. As for Taylor, when we get to the room, she's already moving her sexy body modeling and dancing for me in whatever sexy outfit she picked out for me.
-Bottom line, if you make a diligent effort, and you arrive smelling fresh and clean, there's a much better chance that you'll be rewarded for your efforts, than not. I'm not that young stud I used to be. But I still work very hard staying way ahead of the curve, and it's allowed me some special privileges that I've been extremely grateful for. And if 1 of these women allow me a special UTR unicorn type service or allow me to take pics / vids, I'm respectful and I would never share those or post these publicly. If it's UTR- DON'T kiss and tell!
Just my $. 02 Take this all FWIW.
Just an example of the music I like to play to help enhance the mood / our fun time experience- nothing hotter than fucking to some upbeat hot Vibe music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ybD_p88rU
When RCK hooked me up with his UTR spinner Intel, when she came into our room, I had "Dancing With A Stranger" playing, it was instant fireworks (DFK dancing that hot body up against mine).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av5JD1dfj_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Ps18uR3iE
Dropped into AtoZ after lunch and the mamasan collected the house fee. As she was leading me to a room she was groping and kissing me. She left me there and in came Paula less than a few minutes later. Paula looks fine af; petite, very pretty, big natural tits (not as big as Cathy's but still more than enough). We start DFK and groping. DFK was decent but her breath wasn't the freshest tasting, whereas I rinsed with Listerine before I walked thru the door.
I skipped the false pretense and gave her FS tip without a massage. Above average BBBJ but a little bit teethy, sucked my balls and stroked me. I put her on the table and dropped to my knees to give her DATY; her body looked gorgeous as I was dining. After a few minutes of DATY I got up and was giving her camel slides and thought she was going to let me go in bare. I started to put the tip in and she pulled back and put the condom on that I brought with me. Boom boom boom, missionary, doggy, cowgirl. I told her I was close to finishing and she took the condom off and sucked and stroked a bit more and I gave to her on her face and mouth.
I noticed another guy on the monitor come in while we were going at it, and I saw another AMP girl go into his room. Not sure who it was, but there was a MMS and two girls working. I'll definitely continue to repeat here. I didn't meet the other girl on the way out as I typically do. 60 HF /150 Tip, 210 OTD.
Dropped into AtoZ after lunch and the mamasan collected the house fee. As she was leading me to a room she was groping and kissing me. She left me there and in came Paula less than a few minutes later. Paula looks fine af; petite, very pretty, big natural tits (not as big as Cathy's but still more than enough). We start DFK and groping. DFK was decent but her breath wasn't the freshest tasting, whereas I rinsed with Listerine before I walked thru the door.
I skipped the false pretense and gave her FS tip without a massage. Above average BBBJ but a little bit teethy, sucked my balls and stroked me. I put her on the table and dropped to my knees to give her DATY; her body looked gorgeous as I was dining. After a few minutes of DATY I got up and was giving her camel slides and thought she was going to let me go in bare. I started to put the tip in and she pulled back and put the condom on that I brought with me. Boom boom boom, missionary, doggy, cowgirl. I told her I was close to finishing and she took the condom off and sucked and stroked a bit more and I gave to her on her face and mouth.
I noticed another guy on the monitor come in while we were going at it, and I saw another AMP girl go into his room. Not sure who it was, but there was a MMS and two girls working. I'll definitely continue to repeat here. I didn't meet the other girl on the way out as I typically do. 60 HF /150 Tip, 210 OTD.I'm really glad you got to get the A to Z experience. I've been holding back about raving more than I already have. I know at least a couple other members on the site have visited because they've reached out to me via PM but I was honestly beginning to think something was wrong with me and my standards might just be dropping. It sucks that Paula had some mouth odor and that it sounds like she's not as skilled orally as some of the other providers there. But overall it sounds like you had a good time which makes me no longer second guess myself.
I've said it before, this place is my home base for now. Their customer service and quality will need to nosedive for me to start making longer drives again.
I got a hold of some insider info I wanted to share. There is a new massage parlor opening on Main St. In Chula Vista. It's near the Arizona Chinese restaurant. It's going to be called something like "LZ Bamboo Massage".
It's still under construction but I suggest we keep an eye on it.This is an interesting development! That's only a couple blocks from my current favorite spa, A to Z. It would be really nice if this new spa were to come into the game strong and offer some good competition. I would love to see a challenger in the area to motivate one another to keep bringing in quality and youthful providers. Thanks for the info, Billy Watson aka Captain Marvel aka Shazam! I'll be looking out for this new spa's opening and I hope to share new reports for the rest of us in the South Bay.
-TJNiko.
MaximusKahn
08-11-23, 08:53
PTJ, you know how to treat a lady.
You clearly bring a Boy Friend Experience to your game. What a lot of guys need to realize is you took time and $ to build these relationships. You bring gifts, and music to set a party mood. A first time customer will not get the UTR action, or PSE you get because you built this experience over time.
I like the fact you said don't kiss and tell about your UTR. This is good to protect the women, but even if you do tell all, with all the effort you are put into getting to an UTR experience no new guys is going to get that walking in the first time anyway.
More mongers should follow your advice.
TS & Canuck (Brother from the North): PM's sent to both of you.
I don't have all the answers, but I will offer a few helpful suggestions / advice that seem to work for me when partaking in this hobby (all venues AMPs / Independents / Escorts) I'm no longer the Casanova that I once was. But I still work very hard to stay in top physical condition / health. I practice eating a very healthy diet, I work out / exercise almost every single day (countless hours paddle board sports in the Ocean / sit ups / push ups / bar dips) and when I have an appointment for 1 of these hot dates, like I did with Taylor a couple of nights ago, here's my routine:
- I almost always book an appointment so that I'll be my provider's very last customer for the evening, so there will be absolutely no interruptions. This right here is what got me so many of the fantasy porn hot threesome sesh's at several of the Spa's I played at.
- I always take a long shower about a half hour before I'm on my way. I shave, I do a little man-scaping, brush my teeth, put on Secret Shower fresh deodorant, CK Obsession cologne, pick out some fresh clean smelling cloths that I want / let my counterpart help undress me out of. Part of the seduction. I never get undressed a lay down on a table and simply wait. Unless Mina was there. I'm always the QB calling the plays! LOL.
-When I arrive (always on time or a little early), I text (in this case Taylor's personal number) and I wait for her usually immediate response "please come I'm waiting for you. " I'm always warmly greeted at the door with a big smile and her looking amazing all made / dressed up per my requests. And off we go to our special room where I can't wait for our porno hot experience to begin.
I usually try to bring a small token gift like a thing of Lindor chocolate truffles, which is always appreciated. I've also brought and given various color pairs of fishnet thigh high stocking for these girls to model for me.
-I always bring my JBL flip 4 bluetooth and my phone preset with some upbeat +++ Vibe Pandora music to enhance our fantasy time together.
When I used to go to my private after hours fun over at VIP 2 in Hillcrest (which Mina always arranged for me) with Mina / Cici / Amber / Daisy & Layla, I would bring candles and usually a bottle of Bubbly Sparkling Pink Moscato. I can still remember Amber and Cici really getting into the music and asking me to show her the Pandora station and song I was playing and the taking cell pics of the wine bottle. As for Taylor, when we get to the room, she's already moving her sexy body modeling and dancing for me in whatever sexy outfit she picked out for me.
-Bottom line, if you make a diligent effort, and you arrive smelling fresh and clean, there's a much better chance that you'll be rewarded for your efforts, than not. I'm not that young stud I used to be. But I still work very hard staying way ahead of the curve, and it's allowed me some special privileges that I've been extremely grateful for. And if 1 of these women allow me a special UTR unicorn type service or allow me to take pics / vids, I'm respectful and I would never share those or post these publicly. If it's UTR- DON'T kiss and tell!
Just my $. 02 Take this all FWIW.
Just an example of the music I like to play to help enhance the mood / our fun time experience- nothing hotter than fucking to some upbeat hot Vibe music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ybD_p88rU
When RCK hooked me up with his UTR spinner Intel, when she came into our room, I had "Dancing With A Stranger" playing, it was instant fireworks (DFK dancing that hot body up against mine).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av5JD1dfj_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Ps18uR3iE
Iupvoteeveryth
08-11-23, 15:50
Had the luck to get with Amy who is a talented, sweet, beautiful Chinese girl who has a gorgeous body. She's my new favorite so treat her right guys she's absolutely perfect. She first brought me into the room with some light kissing and teasing, I enjoyed her sensual touches, She knew how to put me on the edge of excitement. She has an amazing body and she let me touch her all over. We start more teasing and kissing. She then goes down on me and gives me an amazing BBBJ and plenty of ball teasing. I felt her under and she was already wet. Then after we played with a few positions but I got physically tired to early due to smoking a joint before (not a good idea because I wanted more energy with her) She pulled down her dress for me to play with the girls. She continued to play with junior and the balls to get it hard again. It took a minute, but she was patient about it. She put a Hat on junior and sucked it away. At this time, junior was hard as wood.
I climbed on top of her for Mish. Junior didn't cooperate, Amy had to get it hard again with her skillful hands and BBBJ. Then she bent over for K9. It felt so good to bang her but junior seems can't cum.
Amy took charge, she pulled the Hat off junior and started strokes it. She also talks very dirty which I love. Finally, she unclogged the pipe. It felt so good to be release. Amy clean junior thoroughly. We laughed and joked about how stubborn junior was. Overall, I had a great time with Amy.
BillyBatson
08-11-23, 16:02
This is an interesting development! That's only a couple blocks from my current favorite spa, A to Z. It would be really nice if this new spa were to come into the game strong and offer some good competition. I would love to see a challenger in the area to motivate one another to keep bringing in quality and youthful providers. Thanks for the info, Billy Watson aka Captain Marvel aka Shazam! I'll be looking out for this new spa's opening and I hope to share new reports for the rest of us in the South Bay.
-TJNiko.I hope so too! To be more specific, the spa is going to be located at 1680-E on Broadway & Main St. There is currently a sign saying MORTGAGE real estate above it but it's going to be replaced with a Massage spa. I don't know when it will be finished but anyone who is in the area should keep their eyes peeled.
Cerveza1515
08-11-23, 17:31
Are there any spas that specialize in petite girls? Appreciate the help!
Yogurt2020
08-11-23, 18:38
Went to see Joy at Erma based on good reviews. I thought she was okay. Appearance wise she is hot as hell. Cute face, petite in height, great hair, and a banging body. Incredibly slim waist, proportionate MMs, soft flawless skin.
Service was just average though. Not very affectionate, reserved kissing, and CBJ.
If you want eye candy, I highly recommend. I got to say doing her doggy with that figure of hers is quite a sight. Otherwise she was a bit of let down.
I hope so too! To be more specific, the spa is going to be located at 1680-E on Broadway & Main St. There is currently a sign saying MORTGAGE real estate above it but it's going to be replaced with a Massage spa. I don't know when it will be finished but anyone who is in the area should keep their eyes peeled.Hey Billy. I drove by today and checked it out. It is very much under construction. There were at least two work trucks parked outside and construction workers walking in and out. The door was open but I couldn't get a peak. I did notice that there is a sign posted that also has a phone number to call. I couldn't take down the number as I was holding up traffic in the parking lot, but I'm planning to cruise by later to take it down. I'll call and inquire about an opening date and post any information that I learn.
-TJNiko.
Are there any spas that specialize in petite girls? Appreciate the help!I can't think of any spa that ever specialized in a specific body type. Most Asian women in this hobby are relatively petite. You don't see too many BBWs. TBH I've never met an Asian BBW and I'd like to.
PoonTangJohnny
08-11-23, 21:22
FWIW: I honestly feel that I have impeccable tastes, when it comes to personal desired body type (s). I prefer true spinner type bodies, first and foremost. So many people I see partaking in this hobby (provider's included) abuse and don't know the meaning of "spinner' in relation to body type. And as far as many of these really big girls I so often see being reviewed here in other thread's (Independent escorts / BBBJ / BBFS thread's), I honestly, wouldn't fuck most of them for free! But to each his own- whatever turns you guys on is perfectly fine with me. It's YOUR $$ .
This young little hottie (LittleLoren on PD), has a body that I would classify as thee most perfect, quintessential spinner type body to die for. A 10!:
https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Mission-Hills/LittleLoren
I'm sure many here will find her way too skinny for their taste.
Went to see Joy at Erma based on good reviews. I thought she was okay. Appearance wise she is hot as hell. Cute face, petite in height, great hair, and a banging body. Incredibly slim waist, proportionate MMs, soft flawless skin.
Service was just average though. Not very affectionate, reserved kissing, and CBJ.
If you want eye candy, I highly recommend. I got to say doing her doggy with that figure of hers is quite a sight. Otherwise she was a bit of let down.I totally appreciate & respect your review for Joy, why-man, However, your review just reinforces how each 1 of us hobbyists view some of these women & our personal experiences with them, differently.
My connection with Joy, while it was GFE / DFK / BBBJCOT, as I stated in my review: "I would NOT repeat with her. ".
I didn't find her body or looks for that matter, even remotely "hot as hell. " While she did have a nice body, it was a short / squat type & not close to being toned to my liking. Her looks (face & body) doesn't hold a candle to other hot AMP ladies like Cici, Sophia, Mina VIP Cici, Amber or Lily MRC; not even in the same ballpark! People here like throwing out random numbers judging some of these ladies; Joy (looks or body) don't even come within 2 points of any of these girls I mentioned! Hell, I even liked Abby & May way more personally, than Joy, but that's just me. Just not MY cup of tea. As long as these other guys like her and have a hot time with her, that's all that counts, but it proves how easy it is here to be bitterly disappointed when meeting some of these girls after reading some of the reviews being posted for them. YMMV- Your Mileage WILL Vary!
Joy: I'm guessing about 5'-1 or 2" a curvy little 100 lbs and I don't like guessing these girls ages but she has a younger look about her.
HF / Tip $$ for a Hhr Covered FS BBBJ DFK.
It was suggested that I give this new girl, Joy, a try, because she has the spinner type body I usually go for. I hate comparing these girls, but let me state this: I have yet to meet another AMP girl anywhere in this hobby who comes even close to Cici's smoking hot perfect spinner body in the spinner category! Just my opinion, that Cici's hot sexy little body is complete and total perfection!
Joy has a nice sexy little body and a fun playful attitude, and her DFK was very passionate and we had great chemistry. But I just didn't feel that super hot connection like I feel when I'm with say, Cici or Sophia. Don't get me wrong, I had a hot time but I'm not sure I'll repeat only because the connection I feel when I'm with these other ladies, is unparalleled. The 1 bummer I experienced with Joy was, she had such a hot set of fucking tits. Yet she would hardly let me touch them.
The 3 girls they have working here at Erma (Joy May & Fiona), are all very different, so if you do ever visit I would suggest doing a preview with all 3 if they're not busy and see if any of these ladies are your type.
RChangDatyKing
08-11-23, 21:28
I haven't used RM for a long time because of all the shill reporting. I visited today to find there's a BBFS option to search when using the FS parameter. I noticed there were several spas on there that are discussed on this thread but I've never read any reports on here of it. Not to say it's not happening but I'm sure a monger here would have reported on it. I know chemistry is everything (lookin' at you RChang) but just curious about the validity or if it's just more schill / gaslighting to get customers in the door. Stay safe out there.
DD.I only use RM to verify spas' addresses. I have never been a paid member on that site. I don't know the validity of the reviews on RM. I hear rumors about all the fake reviews on RM so I always wonder. I don't think it's any different though with reviews on this site. I take every review with a grain of salt; I treat it as information and a guide. Do I know the reviewers? Are they consistent with their reviews? Do they have credibility or are their posts / reviews so over the top for a provider or spa. If a provider is hot, like Petra, we'll see more than just one or 2 reviews for her. When a reviewer raves about a new or unknown provider then bashes on a known provider then it's a red flag for me. Is the reviewer only reviewing slow and not so popular spas and girls? This is a red flag for me. I can usually pick out the fake / shill reviews. It doesn't bother me though because I get to know that reviewer and proceed with "caution" when reading their posts.
Unless the reviews are for AAMP girls that advertises being Open Minded I don't think we are going to find reviews for providers / masseuses offering BBFS because they are only offering that menu for repeat customers they trust and have chemistry with. We see many reviews for an older masseuse offering similar service because I think she offers the BB service to everyone. We are not going to see many BB reviews on young, beautiful masseuse / provider because the girls are telling the 2-5 guys they are offering the bare service for to not tell anyone. Yes, Chemistry is Everything from my experience. I have great chemistry with all my UTRs. When they see me they'll go straight to the fun, giving me kisses, giving me preview BJ as soon as they walk in the door / room because they miss me. They will go in to work on their days off because they want to see me. I don't go out seeking BB service. I always bring my own cover when I go to a FS spas or AAMP appointments. Do I have UTRs that offers me BB service, YES! I actually have more girls at nonFS spas offering bare service. LOL. They don't carry condoms around so when the sexual attraction and chemistry is so intense bare fun sometimes happens naturally.
I only use RM to verify spas' addresses. I have never been a paid member on that site. I don't know the validity of the reviews on RM. I hear rumors about all the fake reviews on RM so I always wonder. I don't think it's any different though with reviews on this site. I take every review with a grain of salt; I treat it as information and a guide. Do I know the reviewers? Are they consistent with their reviews? Do they have credibility or are their posts / reviews so over the top for a provider or spa. If a provider is hot, like Petra, we'll see more than just one or 2 reviews for her. When a reviewer raves about a new or unknown provider then bashes on a known provider then it's a red flag for me. Is the reviewer only reviewing slow and not so popular spas and girls? This is a red flag for me. I can usually pick out the fake / shill reviews. It doesn't bother me though because I get to know that reviewer and proceed with "caution" when reading their posts.Spot on. This forum has always been a more honest review. Years ago I did a one month trial of RM. Even back then everything seemed suspect and cancelling the subscription was a pain in the ass as well. Well known Eskimo brothers like you, PTJ and others seniors are straight forward, non BS reviews so always reliable.
W8 I am confused, I went to the spa at the address you mentioned and it turned out to be legit. You are saying I need to move couple blocks east on that road and I would hit it?
This place is on 4660 El cajon blvd, #101. It's a few businesses east of that legit massage place you may have visited. But unfortunately when I went back for round two this morning, place was closed. I got her digits, but haven't gotten a reply back yet.
Had some time to check out Erma yesterday. I'm never in the area so I figured why not. Love the location, I walked in around 3 pm and nobody was there. Was greeted by a cute little hottie (I think her name was Yuna? About 5'3 petite w MM c's that felt pretty natural). I opted for 30 min and paid house fee. She had great English and gave a really nice back massage, not one of those light touch things at many other FS spas. Flipped me over, negotiated donation and she provided me with services on par with what other mongers have reported here. At the end she brought in two of the other masseuses to say hi (hugs and butt grabs to go around). Everyone was friendly and the atmosphere was great. I can see why there are so many positive reviews. Don't know when I'll have time to make my way up there again but definitely worth a visit if you're there.
DD.
DrPornDawger
08-12-23, 15:24
Went by Erma to see if the first round was just a fluke.
Called Ashley Got an appointment with Yumi.
She remembered me and after freshening up lied on the table for the remarkable knot removable before the fun starts.
Yumi concentrated on my back and she knows where exactly to relieve the pressure. Once she was done she was grinding her bare pussy on my ass and I can feel her wetness.
She tells me "I've massaged you, you massage me". She undressed and we switch places. I kiss her all over and I start massaging her clit slowly while sucking on her nips. I massage her mons pubis and insert my finger tip and thumb her clit. She positions herself to give suck me while fingering her. I then start flicking her clit with my tongue and rub her g spot. She's shuddering and I can see her juices flowing down my fingers I continue eating her out and she squeezes my head between her thighs as she Os for the first time. She tells me she wants me inside her. I camel slide her for a bit and she covers me up. She tells me to go deep and I obliged her with long slow strokes while flicking her clit. She O for the 2nd time. Switched to doggy and finished deep inside her (covered of course).
She wipes me down and wipes the sweat on my face and head. She saw that I was still hard and calls Fiona who was available over to go for another round. I couldn't say no to that.
I mustered to get another round and off to the races with Fiona. She's about 5'6, taller than Yumi and more plump. Her massage isn't the same, but I no longer need that massage. Fiona undressed in front of me. We kiss and she starts going down on me. Gets me up up rather quick. Switch to 69 and I like them fresh. She has a nice pussy and very vocal. She kept pushing her Pussy into my face and I got her to to O giving me a glazed face. I got up and started kissing her, she love licking her own juices. Suited up and we start in doggy. I'm rubbing her ass while pounding her. The sound of our flesh slapping can be heard through the doors. Again she's very vocal. I turn her around for some mish so I can see her O face. Got close to the end. I pull out and splatter over her belly. Cleaned up and took a shower and leaving with big ass grin.
Had some time to check out Erma yesterday. I'm never in the area so I figured why not. Love the location, I walked in around 3 pm and nobody was there. Was greeted by a cute little hottie (I think her name was Yuna? About 5'3 petite w MM c's that felt pretty natural). I opted for 30 min and paid house fee. She had great English and gave a really nice back massage, not one of those light touch things at many other FS spas. Flipped me over, negotiated donation and she provided me with services on par with what other mongers have reported here. At the end she brought in two of the other masseuses to say hi (hugs and butt grabs to go around). Everyone was friendly and the atmosphere was great. I can see why there are so many positive reviews. Don't know when I'll have time to make my way up there again but definitely worth a visit if you're there.
DD.
BillyBatson
08-12-23, 17:40
Hey Billy. I drove by today and checked it out. It is very much under construction. There were at least two work trucks parked outside and construction workers walking in and out. The door was open but I couldn't get a peak. I did notice that there is a sign posted that also has a phone number to call. I couldn't take down the number as I was holding up traffic in the parking lot, but I'm planning to cruise by later to take it down. I'll call and inquire about an opening date and post any information that I learn.
-TJNiko.Dude that's awesome. Thank you for doing that. Sometimes I feel like the south bay scene doesn't get enough love from the monger community LOL.
GaryCotter
08-12-23, 21:18
Hi guys. What's the LE involvement with AMPs in the area? Where I live up north the providers are all scared to do extras because of the high scrutiny of LE, but where I'm from down south they could almost advertise special services openly without getting stopped in certain towns. What I noticed on STG is that many of the massage ads list a full offering of sexual services and show a valid address and name for a massage parlor. It's so upfront and out in the open that I can't help but wonder if LE turns a blind eye or if it might be some kind of sting. I visited an oceanside strip club a few years ago and couldn't believe the number of rules. I'd like to avoid a trip to TJ if possible, but not at the cost of a criminal infraction.
RolfTorren
08-12-23, 23:07
My perception is that there's a live and let live atittude here at the moment. 2022 was different. There were owners of some local AMPs who were threatened by the new and very effective business model of a now defunct AMP. They arranged for systematic harassment that included raids by LE. Things are quiet now and youd have to be very unlucky to get caught in a raid. Cameras and security doors provide a level of safety for all workers and patrons. Just my impressions of the current state if the local scene.
Hi guys. What's the LE involvement with AMPs in the area? Where I live up north the providers are all scared to do extras because of the high scrutiny of LE, but where I'm from down south they could almost advertise special services openly without getting stopped in certain towns. What I noticed on STG is that many of the massage ads list a full offering of sexual services and show a valid address and name for a massage parlor. It's so upfront and out in the open that I can't help but wonder if LE turns a blind eye or if it might be some kind of sting. I visited an oceanside strip club a few years ago and couldn't believe the number of rules. I'd like to avoid a trip to TJ if possible, but not at the cost of a criminal infraction.
BallaStPoint
08-13-23, 12:44
W8 I am confused, I went to the spa at the address you mentioned and it turned out to be legit. You are saying I need to move couple blocks east on that road and I would hit it?Check out post #23353.
Drove by Saturday afternoon and the door was locked and the lights off. Anyone know what happened? Did they just take an uncharacteristic day off?
DrPornDawger
08-14-23, 18:32
60 at door, got Lily a7, good body good massage. Covered full service, tipped 140, everyone happy looking forward to next visit.I'd like to see this place but that's a long ass drive. If the pussy is that good, maybe I'll consider it. Hasn't stopped me before.
Hello gentlemen. I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone now, but I've made another visit to A to Z Spa in Chula Vista and this is a customary late report. I've withheld uploading this report because I've been concerned that my claim regarding my provider may not be taken seriously. I've shared the opinion that I'm about to publicize with one other senior member but have been reluctant to share with everyone, for fear that I'll be called a lunatic. Be that as it may, I will tell my story. A few weeks ago, I returned to my local haunt, A to Z. I had intended to visit with a new provider, by the name of Paula, who I had not yet visited. As per my routine, I text ahead to set up an appointment at my usual hour. The mamasan asked who I'd like to see. I thought I'd try my luck and inquire if Baby had returned but I was told she had not. Mamasan informed me that Paula would be available but that Lily was also available as she had already returned. Some of you may remember my last post regarding Lily. I could hardly believe what I was reading. If you haven't read my previous review of Lily, you may want to just to confirm that the experience I'm about to relay was not a flash in the pan.
So here comes the controversial part. I, wholeheartedly and steadfastly, affirm that Lily is not just one in a million but that she is as good, if not better, than the beloved Mina. That's right, I've said it and I'll stand by it.
This woman is absolutely unreal. I know it can be YMMV, or that sometimes you catch a provider in a great mood, but I firmly believe that she is not picking me for some kind of special treatment because there is nothing special about me. So then, my logical conclusion is that she is just that amazing with everyone. It's hard for me to put into words the thrill that being with this woman gives me, and it may be a case where a monger just builds up the experience with a provider in his mind, but the amount of sweat, vaginal fluids, and cum that each experience with Lily produces are just too real to be a figment of my imagination. I'm also aware that we all occasionally find that special provider who we seem to establish a special relationship with, but aside from the extraordinarily amazing sex, I'm not checking any of those boxes with this woman. Which is why I firmly believe she sits in that highest echelon of providers, like our beloved Mina.
I've said what I've had to say. The mongering gods have smiled upon Chula Vista and I am better for having repeat experiences with Lily.
Good luck to you all.
-TJNiko.
SeanMendez345
08-14-23, 21:46
Has anyone gotten a massage from the front desk / manager at Diamond in La Mesa? She's cute in a GND kind of way and seems friendly. The legendary Eva is still here but she's getting "old" for my liking. I'm sure she still gives a great massage and ending but I want a massage from that manager. LOL. There are however a couple of cuties here though that's worth a visit when I'm in the area.You know I visited not too long ago and I know who your talking about she was a cutie. If you succeed don't forget to share. Good luck.
Hello gentlemen. I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone now, but I've made another visit to A to Z Spa in Chula Vista and this is a customary late report. I've withheld uploading this report because I've been concerned that my claim regarding my provider may not be taken seriously. I've shared the opinion that I'm about to publicize with one other senior member but have been reluctant to share with everyone, for fear that I'll be called a lunatic. Be that as it may, I will tell my story. A few weeks ago, I returned to my local haunt, A to Z. I had intended to visit with a new provider, by the name of Paula, who I had not yet visited. As per my routine, I text ahead to set up an appointment at my usual hour. The mamasan asked who I'd like to see. I thought I'd try my luck and inquire if Baby had returned but I was told she had not. Mamasan informed me that Paula would be available but that Lily was also available as she had already returned. Some of you may remember my last post regarding Lily. I could hardly believe what I was reading. If you haven't read my previous review of Lily, you may want to just to confirm that the experience I'm about to relay was not a flash in the pan.
So here comes the controversial part. I, wholeheartedly and steadfastly, affirm that Lily is not just one in a million but that she is as good, if not better, than the beloved Mina. That's right, I've said it and I'll stand by it.
This woman is absolutely unreal. I know it can be YMMV, or that sometimes you catch a provider in a great mood, but I firmly believe that she is not picking me for some kind of special treatment because there is nothing special about me. So then, my logical conclusion is that she is just that amazing with everyone. It's hard for me to put into words the thrill that being with this woman gives me, and it may be a case where a monger just builds up the experience with a provider in his mind, but the amount of sweat, vaginal fluids, and cum that each experience with Lily produces are just too real to be a figment of my imagination. I'm also aware that we all occasionally find that special provider who we seem to establish a special relationship with, but aside from the extraordinarily amazing sex, I'm not checking any of those boxes with this woman. Which is why I firmly believe she sits in that highest echelon of providers, like our beloved Mina.
I've said what I've had to say. The mongering gods have smiled upon Chula Vista and I am better for having repeat experiences with Lily.
Good luck to you all.
-TJNiko.Did she DFK, Rim, and do BB?
Thanks in advance.
Did she DFK, Rim, and do BB?
Thanks in advance.Hey Taco. She's definitely BBBJ. I have not partaken in BBFS, and it has not been offered yet. Bear in mind that if you're asking regarding BBFS, then surely you're aware that BBFS at an AMP is definitely YMMV and an option that typically takes some time and repeat visits to obtain. She provides superb BBBJ and DFK. DFKing Lily is as GFE as I've experienced and that is one of the talents that puts her at least at Mina's level. I loved Mina's DFK and I can say I enjoy Lily's more. As for rimming, I have not outright requested rimming yet but on my last visit she did begin exploring my taint and anus, which makes me believe she is open to more. I hope to further explore that option when she returns.
-TJNiko.
I drove by a couple weeks ago and it looked closed, but it's possible they just changed ownership. In my experience there's only been one girl working when I go in, but it's possible there's a mms too. I always hear chatter when waiting in the room. The typical women I see usually fall in the 40-50 range. They will accommodate BBBJ, reluctantly, but don't know if it's FS. I just say I can't nut otherwise. The girls are not lookers by any means, but always friendly. This is always one of my quickie last resort spots, but I can't recommend unless you're in a bind. Would love to know if ownership has indeed changed, that might make a huge difference. Much like when Unique Foot Spa changed hands. Good luck.Visited today. They were open. I've posted on this place previously. Has been FS for a number of years now. Appears to have changed management within past few months (for the better IMO).
I've been watching a lot of Yuja Wang videos on YouTube lately. Do any of you know any one with her lips?
Took a drive by there as I haven't been past that way for a while. Easy parking for what its worth. Entered and a tallish, skinny, reasonably cute lady greeted me. I'm assuming Korean from the body style, probably early 40's based on the flawless make up which can shave years off your age. Long hair, which I always enjoy.
Payed the house fee and went back, changed into my exercise outift and stretched out. Very friendly and started with a back massage that was relaxing more than therapeutic. Easy access to those long legs and smooth skin while she went through the motions.
On the flip, had the birds and the bees discussion and immediately proceeded with the "look ma, no hands" approach to pole dancing. Well executed and with enthusiasm. Next we proceeded to stress test the table playing bouncy house. Though her bolt on after market Ds didn't bounce much. Her long nipples did keep me interested. We finished the workout session with a push up competition with the appropriate sound effects. In the end, we both left happy. Maybe not the best personal trainor on the market, but definately delivered on expectations.
Anything good near the fashion valley mall on mission valley? Prefer FS with Koreans, had a terrible Chinese experience here last year. I'm in town today only, basically on foot near the 163. If you can throw out a name in the area I'd appreciate it. I see some with the name "Thai" in them, but I figure those may be legit.
PoonTangJohnny
08-15-23, 16:43
Hello gentlemen. I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone now, but I've made another visit to A to Z Spa in Chula Vista and this is a customary late report. I've withheld uploading this report because I've been concerned that my claim regarding my provider may not be taken seriously. I've shared the opinion that I'm about to publicize with one other senior member but have been reluctant to share with everyone, for fear that I'll be called a lunatic. Be that as it may, I will tell my story. A few weeks ago, I returned to my local haunt, A to Z. I had intended to visit with a new provider, by the name of Paula, who I had not yet visited. As per my routine, I text ahead to set up an appointment at my usual hour. The mamasan asked who I'd like to see. I thought I'd try my luck and inquire if Baby had returned but I was told she had not. Mamasan informed me that Paula would be available but that Lily was also available as she had already returned. Some of you may remember my last post regarding Lily. I could hardly believe what I was reading. If you haven't read my previous review of Lily, you may want to just to confirm that the experience I'm about to relay was not a flash in the pan.
So here comes the controversial part. I, wholeheartedly and steadfastly, affirm that Lily is not just one in a million but that she is as good, if not better, than the beloved Mina. That's right, I've said it and I'll stand by it..Lily- better than Mina!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfdMN_76Jck
We've compared and can relate to many of the same hot women we've both been lucky so see in the past, so I personally don't doubt the hot amazing connection that you & Lily have together.
I really do appreciate all of the trustworthy insider Intel you've shared with me TJN! Unfortunately, I was only able to find time to take the drive that far South for later this pm And contacted A-Z just this morning to set something up with Lili. Unfortunately, I was told that Lili had just started her 1 week ladies sabbatical and will be off for the next week. As soon as she does cum back, as in the word's of Marcellus Wallace: I'm on the mother fucker! She most definitely sounds amazing. And if she's even in the same ballpark as Mina (GFE service is concerned), she sounds like a fun hot time. Between Lily, Baby and Paula, A-Z sounds like they're highly committed to bring in some top quality talent to the South Bay!
Just moved down from NorCal for work and decided to try my first AMP here in socal. Didn't do many reviews during my time up north but after my visit to A to Z I knew I had to write my very first.
Arrived around 4 pm and the area was generally busy, the little plaza it was located in did not have much foot traffic going on, but the door to enter the spa was right next to a propped open door of a food spot. After entering and walking to the front desk Paula (I believe is what she said her name was) greeted me. And WOW I was surprised with how young and pretty she looked, I'm guessing around mid 20's? Pretty face, long hair, light skinned, slim, with some bolt ons. Which is not what I'm used to up in NorCal (LOL). After paying 60 for the hh she held me by the arm and brought us to the room. Inside the spa was pretty dim and quiet, and I would say was pretty clean for my liking no weird smells or anything. The massage wasn't cut too short and I'd give it a solid 6/10. Another hobbyist came in during the massage, but another provider answered that. Towards the end there was a lot of focus on the lower end before the flip. On the flip I couldn't resist how pretty she was up close to my face and jr down below was definitely excited and ready. She said everything was on the menu and I used the universal sign for "getting it on" and she said okay..Welcome to San Diego, CB, and thank you for this awesome report! Wishing you happy & safe new horizons on this life changing move; you definitely picked the 1 of the best Cities for AMP-ing (if not thee best) in the entire USA!
I look forward to reading about some of your future adventures.
HappyPlaces
08-16-23, 13:14
Yerrrrrrr.
After perusing the board whilst at work like the model employee I am. I started feeling some type of way.
Fell asleep when I got home, and woke up at night. Hit up places to see who was working where and ended up making it out to Erma.
Made an appointment for may. Showered, cleaned up, and off on my merry way.
Showed up like an NBA player doing their walk to the locker room, sayin what's up to the fans (spiders in the hedges otw to the door).
First when I went in, I ended up getting Fiona, said that I requested may. Possibly unaware or tried to bamboozle me. Either way I got who I wanted so all good. Its like the old saying goes, don't hate the player. Hate yourself.
Anyway, may comes in, similar to the picture they sent face wise. But obviously not exact clone. Like 5'5 in height, black hair, face dimples, small body not extremely tight but not loose either (talking about body). She feels good though. The thinner waist to her hips ratio is what got me. If she had a BBL that would be insane ratio.
Massage first then that she brought that action boss. Light kissing, cg, finish in k9. Felt bad I finished earlier than usual but damn that shit felt good. She goes hard in the mfing paint. I was like o lawd have mercy. Only thing I was missing was the choir and organs in the background.
Anyway after that, she massaged me for the rest of the time. Lots of laughter and smiling from both ends. She is pretty cool, I find her attractive overall. And enjoy the strike hard strike fast style of her. Good noises too.
I believe she is leaving near the end of the month. So have fun if you out there. Standard tipping procedure.
Toodles.
Tapfersoldat
08-16-23, 14:28
Great reports so far. Coming down from LA area in the next few months so doing recon reading. From the looks of things though, sounds like the MP scene is great given the competition across the border. Did want to try TJ scene but for sure will try AZ or Ermas and report back. Staying around IB if anyone has further recommendations.
BillyBatson
08-16-23, 15:23
Great reports so far. Coming down from LA area in the next few months so doing recon reading. From the looks of things though, sounds like the MP scene is great given the competition across the border. Did want to try TJ scene but for sure will try AZ or Ermas and report back. Staying around IB if anyone has further recommendations.Fine Touch Wellness is in IB. It's a bit pricey but the girls are Korean if you're into that. For non-FS spas in the area there is Diamond Massage and even Acacias Massage further west on Palm Ave.
Chinese A Massage is on Main St. And Yoyo there offers FS.
SeanMendez345
08-16-23, 17:43
Lily- better than Mina!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfdMN_76Jck
We've compared and can relate to many of the same hot women we've both been lucky so see in the past, so I personally don't doubt the hot amazing connection that you & Lily have together.
I really do appreciate all of the trustworthy insider Intel you've shared with me TJN! Unfortunately, I was only able to find time to take the drive that far South for later this pm And contacted A-Z just this morning to set something up with Lili. Unfortunately, I was told that Lili had just started her 1 week ladies sabbatical and will be off for the next week. As soon as she does cum back, as in the word's of Marcellus Wallace: I'm on the mother fucker! She most definitely sounds amazing. And if she's even in the same ballpark as Mina (GFE service is concerned), she sounds like a fun hot time. Between Lily, Baby and Paula, A-Z sounds like they're highly committed to bring in some top quality talent to the South Bay!
Welcome to San Diego, CB, and thank you for this awesome report! Wishing you happy & safe new horizons on this life changing move; you definitely picked the 1 of the best Cities for AMP-ing (if not thee best) in the entire USA!
I look forward to reading about some of your future adventures.PTJ I really trust your taste so after you give her a try tell me if she is worth the drive all the way into chula vista.
Because as good as mina is a bold claim. Also the idea of a great massage session then going to MJ's Yogurt time for one of there 805 burritos Sound like a good time to me.
After my disappointing drive to LA recently and my disappointing trip to Orlando where everything was getting closed down the week before I got there. This sounds good.
TheHoleTruth
08-17-23, 01:17
Looking for some good parlors around the USD campus that offer many options. Prefer AMP. Any suggestions?
Sir Bishop
08-17-23, 15:53
How a madam at Chinese massage parlors outside L. A. Took on federal law enforcement.
BY Michael Finnegan Staff writer.
M. Xing's sex trafficking trial laid bare many secrets of the San Gabriel Valley's massage parlors.
Each time a masseuse had sex with a customer, Xing collected $40. The masseuse typically made at least twice that much in tips.
Xing, who ran three massage parlors, could be a nasty boss, scolding or firing those who crossed her. Streetwise and strong-willed, she trusted no one. Yet she also socialized with many of the fellow Chinese immigrants she employed. At festive meals, they celebrated birthdays, a housewarming and the Lunar New Year.
Five of the women ultimately turned on Xing, telling the FBI she forced them into prostitution, then testifying against her at the trial in Los Angeles.
Now it was Xing's turn.
Wide-eyed jurors watched her rise from the defense table her ankles unshackled for the day and swagger to the witness stand, her salt-and-pepper ponytail bouncing. The clop clop of Xing's sandals pierced the courtroom's silence.
In a loud voice, the stout defendant described in Mandarin how it all worked the $40 fee, the tips, the tracking of the cash. She placed "Masseuses Wanted" ads to find sex workers for the downscale massage parlors she ran in strip malls on the wide boulevards of the largely Asian and Latino suburbs just east of Los Angeles.
Xing kept meticulous handwritten ledgers. Day by day, they showed which women worked at what time and how much was allocated to the house for each trick. Every employee, Xing said, was free to quit any time.
"I've never forced anybody to engage in prostitution," she told the jury, a diverse group of men and women drawn from all over Southern California. An interpreter standing next to Xing captured her brassy delivery.
It's a gamble for any defendant to testify. Xing, 62, had little to lose. If the jury found her guilty of any one of the five sex trafficking charges, the mandatory minimum sentence would be 15 years.
Xing also had good reason to be hopeful. The government had produced almost no independent evidence to corroborate her accusers' allegations. It was their word against hers.
Xing's testimony, from a witness box framed by white marble, would leave jurors confronting uncomfortable questions at the end of the three-week trial in June.
Why might her accusers have lied?
At what point does commercial sex become involuntary?
Was Xing's conduct as egregious as the government charged?
Sex trafficking, a modern form of slavery, is often conflated with commercial sex work, but is not the same thing. To win a federal sex trafficking conviction, prosecutors would need to prove that Xing used threats of force, fraud or coercion to cause a victim to engage in prostitution.
"M. Xing was a madam, there's no disputing that," Xing attorney Neha Christerna conceded to the jury. "But she was not a trafficker. ".
Xing's hometown is Tianjin, a huge industrial port city 80 miles east of Beijing. Her mother was a doctor, her father a land administrator. Xing earned an associate's college degree, then worked as a midwife at a Tianjin hospital.
She married Yuanjin Li, who would leave home for months at a time to work on fishing boats at sea, and they had a son. When Xing moved to the United States in 1997, she left the toddler with her mother in Tianjin.
"I wanted to make money in the USA," Xing testified. "I wanted to have my family have a better life. ".
Her son is now 30 years old and raising two kids of his own in China.
"So you're a grandmother?" Xing's attorney Callie Steele asked.
"Yes. ".
In her mid-30's, Xing settled in the San Gabriel Valley. She divorced Li and married an American. She had a second son she would raise in California.
Xing found a job washing hair at a salon. She took on cooking, cleaning and childcare duties for a family in Arcadia. She gave foot and body massages at a medical clinic in the Little Tokyo neighborhood of downtown L. A.
Xing wound up getting hired at a massage parlor, then another and another a half dozen in all. She and her co-workers often performed commercial sex, she testified.
"Did you do it voluntarily?" Steele asked.
"Yes," Xing replied.
Xing was arrested on charges of prostitution and related misdemeanours in 1999. She pleaded guilty to lewd conduct. In 2001, she was arrested again and convicted of prostitution. In both cases, Xing offered sex to an undercover cop, according to her lawyers.
Like other Chinese immigrants doing sex work, she adopted an American nickname, "Anna. " At her massage parlors, Xing also came to be known as "boss" or "sister. ".
With steady income, savings from China and an inheritance from her father, Xing bought a $385,000 condo in San Gabriel in 2011. She drove a black Mercedes E350 sedan.
In 2013, Xing opened her flagship business, Sunshine Massage, in a strip mall on Garvey Avenue in South El Monte. Red oval lanterns with golden tassels hung above the entrance. A sign in the glass door showed a woman's hands kneading the shoulders of a smiling man. The storefront was painted red.
Inside was a reception area with plastic plants and more Chinese lanterns. Along a dimly lit hallway were 13 private rooms with massage beds and mirrors on the wall. Masseuses sometimes gathered in a kitchen break room or smoked cigarettes just outside the back door.
"Massage parlor is hiring young beautiful masseuses, good tips, stable source of customers, massage license preferred," said one of Xing's ads on chineseinla.com, a site for local Chinese immigrants.
At first, Xing said, she strictly forbade sex, instructing the front-desk clerk to listen in the hallway for suspicious sounds. But some customers would leave if they couldn't get sex, she told jurors, and the masseuses were flouting the ban anyway, so she decided to allow it.
Xing marketed the business accordingly. To attract customers, she placed ads with photos of young women in provocative poses on Backpage.com and other adult services websites. "Pretty young Chinese girl," one of them said. "A lot of surprises, just waiting for you. ".
The cost of a one-hour massage was $35, collected at the front desk upon entry. If the masseuse was licensed, Xing would pay her $15; if not, $10. Massage parlors can be shut down for offering sex, so Xing would remind employees: "We're a massage parlor. We need to provide massage service. ".
But a lot more money could be made in prostitution, an occupation fraught with risk. Xing's accusers alleged several customers raped them. Sexual assault in the context of commercial sex is a crime, but nobody was charged in these cases.
A big concern at the massage parlor was the danger of police raids. Xing and "the girls," as her attorneys called them, were on constant lookout for undercover cops. Condoms were hidden in Dior and Aveeno lotion bottles with false bottoms.
In 2016, a masseuse was arrested at Sunshine Massage for offering a "happy ending" by hand to an L. A. County sheriff's deputy posing as a customer, Xing said.
Staff also kept guard for surprise city inspections. South El Monte required massage therapists to be licensed; many of Xing's were not.
Tips for happy endings and oral sex were between the masseuse and the customer, Xing told the still wide-eyed jurors. Xing would just take her $20 or $25 share of the $35 entry fee.
Vaginal sex, known at Sunshine Massage as a "big job," was a whole other matter. Xing would not only keep the entire $35, but also charge the masseuse $5 to ensure Xing got her full $40, she told the jury. The masseuse was expected to negotiate a minimum of $80 in tips she would keep.
All of the masseuses preferred sex work over massage, according to Xing, because the tips were so much higher. A masseuse who went by "Luna" testified she typically earned $6,000 to $7,000 in tips per month.
On a typical day with about 10 masseuses on duty, the receptionist would keep track of who clocked in at what time and assign them customers in that order.
A popular customer at Sunshine Massage was known as Brother Liu, a big spender who hired Xing to organize sex parties at a nearby hotel, several of the women testified.
"He was the super VIP of the massage parlor," a former front-desk receptionist told jurors. She called him "very generous" with tips, saying "he just gave out money like paper. ".
Liu wrote more than $84,000 in checks to Xing for supplying food, booze and women, an FBI agent told the jury. Liu sometimes liked to just talk, drink and dine with the masseuses. Other times, he had sex with one after another, two masseuses testified. One told jurors he pressured her into unprotected sex against her will.
Liu "drank beer nonstop," Xing told the jurors. "I thought he was quite lonely. ".
At first glance, Xing's ledgers don't seem to distinguish between a massage and sex.
But to those familiar with her system, the notations are simple to decode: $35 is massage, $40 is sex. Xing had no choice but to take it on faith begrudgingly that the masseuses truthfully reported what occurred in private rooms.
"I don't really trust them," she testified.
Xing was also wary of her partners. When Sunshine Massage closed in July 2017, she went into business with the owner of Garvey Therapy, a dingy massage parlor in a strip mall across the street. In return for bringing masseuses and customers there, Xing got a 30% share of Garvey Therapy.
That meant more than two thirds of every $40 house fee for sex would go to the other owner. Xing resented sharing profits, because she suspected her partner was trying to lure her customers away.
Her revenge in cahoots with masseuses was to cheat her partner by keeping a secret set of books, Xing admitted at the trial. Each masseuse agreed to put at least one trick on the covert ledger every day, allocating the full $40 house fee to Xing, the ledgers show. In 2018, while Xing was visiting her cancer-stricken mother in Tianjin before she died, masseuses texted her photos of the secret ledger pages via WeChat.
Not all the sex occurred at massage parlors or a hotel. Xing also opened a minimalist brothel on Garvey Avenue in Rosemead. It was another strip-mall business, this one with no sign on the door. Xing charged masseuses $40 each time they took a customer there and split the fee with an investment partner, she told the jury.
If the john wanted to maximize privacy, Xing also for a $40 fee would sometimes have the masseuse take him to her San Gabriel condo. She and her teenage son lived on the first and second floors. The third was set aside for business: A spartan bedroom and bathroom with a separate entrance.
Xing, who gave masseuses the door entry code, kept the space well stocked with lotion and clean towels. Tucked in the nightstand drawers were condoms and a pair of black high heels.
Nicholas Stewart, the lead investigator in more than 50 human trafficking cases, slipped his hands into blue latex gloves and picked up the evidence on the edge of the witness box.
"These are Sico condoms," he told jurors, showing them what was seized from the nightstands.
Stewart is the Los Angeles County sheriff's detective who opened the Xing investigation in July 2018. At the time, he was on the Los Angeles Regional Human Trafficking Task Force, which includes the Sheriff's Department and the FBI.
The case was triggered by the Coalition to Abolish Slavery and Trafficking, a Los Angeles nonprofit that operates a hotline sex workers can call to report trafficking. The group's leadership declined to discuss the case.
CAST took two women to see Stewart. Both said they'd engaged in prostitution at Xing's behest while working at two massage parlors she partly owned: Rose Spa, on Peck Road in El Monte, and Garvey Therapy.
One of the accusers, who'd been fired by Xing after bringing drugs to work, made allegations that yielded no charges.
But the other would become one of the five accusers testifying against Xing at the federal trial. The Times is identifying her as Witness 1, because she says she was sexually assaulted and asked not to be named.
Witness 1 said Xing had threatened to tell police she was a prostitute if she refused to serve sex clients, according to a search warrant request filed by Stewart. She was scared, Witness 1 reported, because Xing had photos of her changing clothes or in the presence of condoms or massage parlor records.
But evidence that would impede the prosecution soon emerged. It turned out that Witness 1 had invested $10,000 in the Rosemead brothel; she and Xing were 50-50 partners. It would be unusual for any trafficking victim to share profits in a bordello with her trafficker.
The partnership did not last long. When Xing found out that Witness 1 was not reporting all of her tricks in the ledgers, they had a fight, and she left the business, Xing told the jury. Xing said she also fired Witness 1 from her masseuse job at Rose Spa.
Witness 1 warned Xing she would pay a price for letting her go, according to Xing. Payback, Xing's lawyers would argue later, was the reason she falsely accused Xing.
Stewart got a search warrant for Garvey Therapy and Rose Spa, along with Xing's car and condo. The raids took place on Oct. 23,2018.
"The police officers made a mess of my house," Xing testified.
Xing was arrested on state trafficking and pimping charges and interrogated at length by Stewart and an FBI agent. At the trial, Xing would admit she lied to them over and over, denying she hired masseuses to do sex work and claiming she knew nothing about any sex trade at her massage parlors.
Four other masseuses later came forward and told the FBI and Sheriff's Department that Xing had trafficked them. Federal prosecutors took over the case and arrested Xing again. The state charges were dropped, and a federal grand jury indicted Xing in September 2020 on the five trafficking charges.
Witness 1, the first accuser to testify at the trial, said Xing never told her sex would be part of her job at Sunshine Massage. Within the first couple days of work, a massage customer demanded sex.
"I was very scared, so I tried to rebel," she testified.
The customer told her he'd already paid Xing for a sexual encounter, then climbed on top of Witness 1, covered her mouth and told her to keep quiet, she said. "He raped me," she testified.
When she reported the assault to Xing, Witness 1 told jurors, she replied: "That's how they all act here. ".
The witness, who was married to an American and had a green card, said she kept the job for more than a year because she did not want her family to know about the sex work and feared what Xing might do with a copy of her photo I'd.
She recalled Xing telling her: "Rest assured, I won't let your husband find out about this. ".
Xing sometimes used "threatening language," she testified. Xing claimed she would pay "some Vietnamese people and some Mexicans, and they would do things for her," she added. Xing said "she knows some people in gangs, and they can hurt me," she said.
When Witness 1 refused a customer's request for sex without a condom, Xing yelled at her, she told jurors.
It was left to the jury to reconcile the purported abusiveness with Witness 1's investment with Xing in the Rosemead brothel where a security camera recorded her hugging a customer who got off on "the girlfriend experience. ".
On the video, jurors saw Witness 1 opening a gift-wrapped box, taking out a scarf and thanking him, then leading him into a private room.
A bigger threat to the prosecution was the immigration clearance that the other four accusers got as a result of cooperating in the investigation of Xing.
The United States grants up to 5,000 "T" visas per year to victims of sex or labor trafficking if they can prove they are assisting in the prosecution of a trafficker. The visa authorizes them to live and work in the USA Family members are eligible too.
The FBI, the USA Attorney's office in Los Angeles and the Sheriff's Department each helped secure T visas for these four Xing accusers and two of their children.
The visas were the thrust of Xing's defense. This "golden ticket of immigration," her attorneys argued, motivated the four masseuses to falsely allege Xing trafficked them.
"This is a case about lying witnesses," Christerna told the jury.
Prosecutors dismissed the visas as an "irrelevant side show. " And the masseuses denied lying to get immigration papers.
But on the cellphones and iPads seized from Xing and two of the masseuses, there was almost nothing to buttress their allegations. Agents found ample evidence of commercial sex, but no confirmation that any of it was forced.
The closest thing they saw was Xing texting a masseuse that things would "not end well" if she kept turning tricks at home, which the defense argued was just a threat to fire her.
When Xing's legal team mined the devices, they discovered a trove of exculpatory photos, videos, audio recordings and texts that cast doubt on her accusers' credibility by showing them having a good time with Xing at social gatherings.
One of the four accusers told jurors that the first time she had to service "an old guy" at Xing's condo, she felt compelled to provide sex because she couldn't afford to give him a refund if he demanded one.
If she refused a customer, the masseuse said, Xing "would curse me. " "She was very mean. ".
Mei Xing was a madam, there's no disputing that. But she was not a trafficker.
Some of the sex customers at Sunshine Massage were police officers who were not required to pay, according to the masseuse.
In a letter outlining evidence for Xing's attorneys, prosecutors claimed that one customer they identified only as "the Cop" would force masseuses to have sex against their will. The women were instructed to "do whatever the Cop wanted" and were led to believe he got sex for free because Xing was paying him for protection, prosecutors said in the letter, which was filed in court.
Testimony about encounters with this cop was direct evidence of Xing's guilt, one of the many ways she trafficked victims "by force, fraud, or coercion," Assistant USA Attys. Damaris Diaz and Scott Lara wrote.
The masseuse undercut that argument at the trial when Diaz asked how it felt to serve a cop who didn't have to pay. "I felt that was somewhat safer for me," she testified.
Another masseuse testified that she was raped twice during her brief stint at Sunshine Massage in December 2016, once at the massage parlor and once at Xing's condo. The tall and strong man who assaulted her at the condo bruised her arm, she said, and left her bleeding between the legs. Afterward, she testified, Xing told her it was "not a big thing. ".
At the end of her gig at Sunshine Massage, Xing shouted and told her not to return, shaming her in front of 15 or 16 co-workers and muttering that she could easily pay "to make someone disappear or perish," the masseuse testified.
Other masseuses told jurors that they, too, heard Xing say she could "buy a life" for only $2,000 or $3,000, a comment she de.
When masseuses resisted Xing's demands that they engage in sex acts against their will, Xing threatened to report them not just to police or immigration authorities, but also to criminals in the USA And China, the FBI charged in its initial criminal complaint against Xing. One of the masseuses testified that she heard Xing's "younger brother in China is a gang member. ".
Xing's brother traveled from Tianjin to Los Angeles to testify on his sister's behalf. He denied that either of them had connections to China's criminal underworld. One of Xing's attorneys asked that the brother's name not be published, citing safety concerns.
The government suffered yet another setback when a masseuse testified that she never heard Xing make any frightening threats.
Confusion over whether the masseuse claimed in her T visa application that she was trafficked into the USA Or trafficked while in the USA Led to another remark that helped the defense.
"I absolutely did not say I was trafficked," she testified. "I came on a tourist visa. Who trafficked me?
Xing's trial put on display the raw power of federal judges to shape the boundaries of what evidence can be put before a jury and the impact that can have on the outcome of a trial.
USA District Judge Otis D. Wright II ruled repeatedly against Xing, most importantly when he rejected a defense request to let witnesses testify about her accusers' history of prostitution.
Xing's lawyers told Wright it was crucial to show the jury that all five accusers worked as prostitutes both before and after their alleged trafficking by Xing: At nightclubs in China; in Malaysia; at massage parlors in El Monte, Thousand Oaks and the Bay Area; in hotels and houses around Southern California.
None of them were "bamboozled, forced or coerced," several were arrested on prostitution charges, and some brought their own sex customers to Xing, her attorneys told the judge.
"To conceal this evidence from the jury would deny Ms. Xing her right to fully confront the witnesses against her," especially in the context of the T visas, they wrote in a court filing.
Those who'd been arrested had jeopardized their pending asylum applications, heightening their interest in casting themselves as trafficking victims who qualified for a T visa, according to the defense.
Steele said the judge should not allow the accusers, unchallenged, to simply tell jurors: "I had no idea. I went into this massage parlor without a license to work and I had no idea. That sex was going to be going on in here. ".
Testimony about past sexual behaviour by a purported victim of sexual misconduct is generally not allowed at criminal trials under federal rules of evidence. But a judge can allow such testimony if its exclusion would violate the defendant's constitutional rights.
Prosecutors said Xing's attorneys were trying to "poison the jury" with the idea that the masseuses "may have previously consented to sex work, and therefore cannot be believed. " Prostitution work before or after the trafficking by Xing didn't matter, Diaz told the judge.
"What matters is whether the defendant forced them or defrauded them or coerced them into committing commercial sex work for her benefit or at her direction," she said.
Wright took the prosecution's side.
"One of the things that we're not going to do is start dragging people through the mud about their sex lives before and their sex lives after," he said.
Tensions between the judge and the defense escalated a couple weeks later when Steele raised concerns that jurors might have seen Xing's ankle shackles under the defense table. On the brink of opening statements, Wright declared a mistrial over the shackles issue and recused himself from the case.
The parties regrouped to start again. USA District Judge Fernando M. Olguin took over the case, an abrupt switch from an appointee of Republican President George W. Bush to a judge put on the bench by Democratic President Obama.
Olguin, who presided over the trial, gave more leeway to the defense. He dismissed two of the five charges after hearing two of the masseuses' testimony and finding the evidence too weak to put before the jury.
Olguin also let Xing tell the jury in the trial's final hours what she knew about her accusers' history of prostitution when she hired them.
They'd all been referred by fellow sex workers, Xing testified. She mentioned some of the paid sex gigs she believed had preceded their work at Sunshine Massage at a hair salon in China, a house in Santa Barbara, the massage parlor in Thousand Oaks.
Prosecutors looked stricken as jurors absorbed the details.
One of the things that we're not going to do is start dragging people through the mud about their sex lives before and their sex lives after.
USA District Judge Otis D. Wright II.
Deliberations lasted about five hours. The jurors, who were not publicly identified, agreed there was reasonable doubt about whether Xing had forced any of the women into sex against their will.
"The trafficking part of it just wasn't there," one juror said later. Another said the prosecution's case "just didn't make sense. ".
The foreman handed the jury's verdict sheet to a court clerk.
We, the jury, "unanimously find the defendant Mei Xing not guilty," the clerk read out loud three times.
Tears rolled down Xing's cheeks. She joined the palms of her hands in a gesture of gratitude and called out to the jury, "Thank you. ".
Denied bail, Xing had been locked up for more than three years in a federal jail a few blocks from the courthouse. Olguin told her she would be released that afternoon.
Xing turned to Christerna and Steele and hugged them. "You saved my life," she told them.
(Posted in the Orange County Forum from an LA Times article. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-02/massage-parlor-sex-trafficking-chinese-immigrants-mei-xing-california).
Has anyone gotten a massage from the front desk / manager at Diamond in La Mesa? She's cute in a GND kind of way and seems friendly. The legendary Eva is still here but she's getting "old" for my liking. I'm sure she still gives a great massage and ending but I want a massage from that manager. LOL. There are however a couple of cuties here though that's worth a visit when I'm in the area.Yo King! Made my way to Diamond recently. First time since Yoyo left for what is now Sea Massage.
Had Cindy; a tiny cute spinner maybe 40, but she looked younger (always tough to tell). Mid-back black hair, cute GND face with a nice toothy smile. Very thorough massage, with MBC style access on the flip.
Didn't see a receptionist or anyone else in the hall as they were all busy. Said there were 4 girls and heard 3 guys leave during my hour there so the math adds up. I'll be back to see who else is there. I'd be happy with Cindy again as we hit it off (or she's a good actress).
RChangDatyKing
08-17-23, 21:24
Yo King! Made my way to Diamond recently. First time since Yoyo left for what is now Sea Massage.
Had Cindy; a tiny cute spinner maybe 40, but she looked younger (always tough to tell). Mid-back black hair, cute GND face with a nice toothy smile. Very thorough massage, with MBC style access on the flip.
Didn't see a receptionist or anyone else in the hall as they were all busy. Said there were 4 girls and heard 3 guys leave during my hour there so the math adds up. I'll be back to see who else is there. I'd be happy with Cindy again as we hit it off (or she's a good actress).Hey Cruzier! I remembered YoYo. She was fun. There was another one I was seeing there with nice boobs but I can't remember her name now. Anyways, the "manager" is Mia. The times I've been in she's always been the one to greet me so I assumed she's the manager. Every time I ask if she will give me a massage she always tells me she will give massages when everyone else is busy. One time when everyone was busy she did take a customer. I just need to time it right one day. However, the 3rd or 4th time I saw her (daytime) she didn't look as "cute" as the first time, but still nice in terms of AMPs nowadays. LOL.
I've seen Cindy and I too like her. Man, you think she's in her 40's? I thought maybe younger because she looks cute. Yes, I too like her MBC style of finish. Yes, I too would repeat with Cindy. I'll message you another one I've been seeing there. I don't want them to know I'm writing reviews about them. If I mention the other cutie I'm seeing there they'll figure it's me and I don't want that. I want to be discreet and keep trying to see if Mia will see me. LOL.
DrPornDawger
08-17-23, 22:19
Yeah Erma has always been decent. If you have time then check out Mesa Spa too. Their girls IMO always sweet and got the looks for sure. And you prob will have lots of attention. Haha anyways just want to give some love to them because I know they are trying to get more customers.Where's that? Is that Genessee? There’s some bad reviews and it’s only legit
Where's that? Is that Genessee? Theres some bad reviews and its only legitI believe OP is referring to Mesa Ridge which says simply Mesa in some ads. Mesa on Genesee is as you quoted as far as I know. I stopped going there when they stopped doing even HE, around the time of covid.
I've been coming here since late 2020 mostly for Ivy. I'm a big naturals guy and she's the queen, so I've been with Ivy probably 50+ times but this was my first time seeing Nancy and my first threesome at this establishment. Ivy came in as I was getting undressed. We started making out and then Nancy came in. First impression was that she's in great shape, very thin with a flat beautiful stomach. C cup boobs. I think they may have been implants but if so they are very well done because they look and feel good. Nancy started with the BBBJ while I was still standing with Ivy. I alternated between kissing her and sucking on her tits for a bit then the girls switched positions. Nancy seems to like light kisses only, but she was very giving with them. I got to feel up and kiss her body to my heart's content while Ivy continued the BBBJ. Eventually we moved to the massage table and Nancy tended to the balls while Ivy kept going on the shaft. After that, Nancy rode cowgirl while Ivy tested her tits on my face. Occasionally Nancy leaned down to kiss for awhile while I kept pumping. I sat up and she rode me in the upright sitting position which is easily my fave, and we were positioned in front of the mirror so I got to watch from different angles. Switched up, changed condoms, Ivy rode cowgirl for awhile while Nancy assumed the kisses and tits in face position. Around half an hour in I was getting ready to pop so we switched condoms again and I fucked Nancy in Missionary while Ivy kept her tits in my face and I filled the rubber. Afterwards Nancy left while Ivy stayed to massage. Ivy says Nancy's massage skills aren't up to par yet but that's ok, Ivy gave me a solid half hour of massage time (and she's objectively the best masseuse of any AMP girl I know). Before I left, Ivy really wanted me to meet a new girl named Kelly, and I wasn't expecting anything special but WOW Kelly is fine af. I think Monday I'm going back to do an hour with all 3 because life is too short not to have fun.
RChangDatyKing
08-17-23, 23:06
I like to be discreet and remain anonymous as much as possible when visiting AMPs, especially FS spas.
I was in the CV / South Bay area one day and decided to stop by and see if Lilly was working and I was told she was off. I should have called first to ask if she was working. I then asked for Baby and was given her return date and decided to visit her upon her return.
MMS greeted me and escorted me to a room upon entering the spa. Baby is definitely cute. Because I didn't meet anyone else (they were busy) when I was there I don't know how she compares to the other girls there in terms of beauty. Is she young, cute / pretty. Yes, IMO! Because I've been hobbying for so long and been to almost all the AMPs in San Diego I would rate Baby's look above average (to me) for AMP standards. She's not in my top 15 prettiest (I can name them all. LOL) but she's definitely prettier than most I've met. She has a great smile which make her look great. Baby speaks limited English but we definitely clicked well together, with all the hugs and kisses she was giving me. LOL. She's definitely less experienced than most FS girls I've seen but her BJ and service / performance was definitely above standard. I love dining and she definitely liked my technique. She tasted great and has a tight kitty. Baby is also a great kisser, our lips connected every chance we got. I recommend Baby. Would I repeat with her- definitely!
I was told Lilly will be back next week. Although I'm not visiting FS spas much these days, I look forward to meeting her.
Pros- Baby is a keeper. She's young, cute / pretty, great kisser, provides good service and aims to please. The spa gave me a card, after each visit they stamp the card and the 6th visit is free. The spa is near a freeway for easy access.
Cons, but I spoke with MMS and she liked my suggestions. The room was not as inviting as other spas. I suggested putting in a nice chair or couch and make better mood lighting. I recommended having mouthwash available so the girls and clients can be fresh. The front lobby is very open and not discreet. I asked her to do what she can to make sure customers don't run into each other. MMS liked these ideas.
I am officially done with A2 Z in Chula Vista.
I've visited this place over the past 2 years. Never had the pleasure of Baby, but was super avid visitor for Lulu and more recently Lily. Lily is no longer there and won't be returning, as this was the same thing for Lulu. Was bait and switched for Summer for Lily (She basically admitted to me her name was Summer) when I booked an appointment for Lily. This also happened again when I booked for Lulu and got someone else (never got the replacements name).
My loss, your guys gain. Just be weary at this point.
I am officially done with A2 Z in Chula Vista.
I've visited this place over the past 2 years. Never had the pleasure of Baby, but was super avid visitor for Lulu and more recently Lily. Lily is no longer there and won't be returning, as this was the same thing for Lulu. Was bait and switched for Summer for Lily (She basically admitted to me her name was Summer) when I booked an appointment for Lily. This also happened again when I booked for Lulu and got someone else (never got the replacements name).
My loss, your guys gain. Just be weary at this point.I just visited last night (review to follow soon). I would never argue against your review or the experience you had there, but I was assured that Lily will return. I believe I was told the 21st of this month. I guess only time will tell if that comes to be the case or not. I'm actually upset you had a bad experience because there is nothing I hate more than bait and switch. At the moment, this hasn't happened to me at A to Z, but I've said it before, the minute I dislike the service there and my experiences there start going downhill, I'm out of there too. I know it's no consolation, but I am sorry you had some bad experiences there. Fortunately, it looks like that new spa down the street will be opening soon. If nothing more but to feel the thrill of exploration, I will be paying them a visit when they're ready for customers. Keep your eyes open for them, brother. It's always nice to be able to play in your own backyard and not drive 15 minutes or more for a good provider.
Good luck on your hunt for a replacement AMP. Keep those of us in South Bay in mind if you find one and want to share.
-TJNiko.
I just visited last night (review to follow soon). I would never argue against your review or the experience you had there, but I was assured that Lily will return. I believe I was told the 21st of this month. I guess only time will tell if that comes to be the case or not. I'm actually upset you had a bad experience because there is nothing I hate more than bait and switch. At the moment, this hasn't happened to me at A to Z, but I've said it before, the minute I dislike the service there and my experiences there start going downhill, I'm out of there too. I know it's no consolation, but I am sorry you had some bad experiences there. Fortunately, it looks like that new spa down the street will be opening soon. If nothing more but to feel the thrill of exploration, I will be paying them a visit when they're ready for customers. Keep your eyes open for them, brother. It's always nice to be able to play in your own backyard and not drive 15 minutes or more for a good provider.
Good luck on your hunt for a replacement AMP. Keep those of us in South Bay in mind if you find one and want to share.
-TJNiko.TJNiko I live in South Bay, but work in Oceanside, so the drive down to A2 Z makes this situation that much more upsetting. I've ventured to other places or have been recommended places (Thanks to PTJ), but have never found the magic and level of service at VIP, so that's the bar I'm trying to look for.
As for Lily, this was the exact thing mms said about Lulu. I texted to confim that Lily would be back next week for an extended late night visit with her and anothher girl there (Paula I believe). Was told Lily went to China. No coming back. Again, they already know they've bait and switched Lily with Summer on me sonetime last month. So not much of a coincidence for the same result. I went to visit before the closed down the first time, trying to find my replacement for my ATF at other places (2 of which will not be named. We all know at this point). Lulu and Lily were pretty close to what I was wanting with several differences. But again YMMV, and I know I treated these ladies very well. They know it, and had a "card" they offered to repeat clients.
If you have places you can recommend, I'm all ears.
RChangDatyKing
08-18-23, 10:16
I am officially done with A2 Z in Chula Vista.
I've visited this place over the past 2 years. Never had the pleasure of Baby, but was super avid visitor for Lulu and more recently Lily. Lily is no longer there and won't be returning, as this was the same thing for Lulu. Was bait and switched for Summer for Lily (She basically admitted to me her name was Summer) when I booked an appointment for Lily. This also happened again when I booked for Lulu and got someone else (never got the replacements name).
My loss, your guys gain. Just be weary at this point.
TJNiko I live in South Bay, but work in Oceanside, so the drive down to A2 Z makes this situation that much more upsetting. I've ventured to other places or have been recommended places (Thanks to PTJ), but have never found the magic and level of service at VIP, so that's the bar I'm trying to look for.
As for Lily, this was the exact thing mms said about Lulu. I texted to confim that Lily would be back next week for an extended late night visit with her and anothher girl there (Paula I believe). Was told Lily went to China. No coming back. Again, they already know they've bait and switched Lily with Summer on me sonetime last month. So not much of a coincidence for the same result. I went to visit before the closed down the first time, trying to find my replacement for my ATF at other places (2 of which will not be named. We all know at this point). Lulu and Lily were pretty close to what I was wanting with several differences. But again YMMV, and I know I treated these ladies very well. They know it, and had a "card" they offered to repeat clients.
If you have places you can recommend, I'm all ears.Now I'm wondering if the masseuse I saw was actually Baby. Although she was cute and provided good service I don't care for bait and switch and being lied to. If anyone else has seen Baby before and can confirm if she has a rose / flower tattoo on her leg / ankle I would appreciate it. If it wasn't Baby that I was told I saw then I too am done with them even if I received good service from a cute girl.
I was told Lilly would be back on the 21st and would be there for several months.
SeanMendez345
08-18-23, 11:09
So after PTJ talked about his 2 in 1 day. I thought about going back and trying may but someone else had already beat me with the idea. So I was like fine I guess I will just go with joy for a bit.
But unf joy was out and said she would be back in a few days. But they said they had a new girl coco.
So coco is a cute girl young Nice body Decent B cups. Grippable ass. So I was like. Well I can work with that. She had a cute smile and was just a generally cute girl in my opinion. But her service was surprisingly better then I expected. Every monger has a check list in there head if she's going to do this or that and she kinda just walked down mine with ease without out saying much (limited English but translator on deck).
She started me of laying me down on the bed then getting me ready for a nice sensual BBBJ and while gripping onto her ass. Into her putting on the jimmie then Jumping on top of me riding me until I was satisfied with that position. Next was Missionary Into Doggie. All taking my time and just letting me take the lead. Eventually leading to me thinking man I want to bust in her mouth. So then I gave the signal asking was it okay to cum in her mouth and she smiled and said yes baby. Nice. So A pretty good session in my books.
I think someone was looking for a place that opened early. I found one on College / ECB, LJ foot care, 4622 Colllege ave. I was driving by last week and it looked like they were open at 8 am. Today I was in that area again and they looked open and it was 7:15. I didn't have time for a massage so I went in and asked the lady when they opened, the answer was 7 am. So whoever was looking, there you go.
I've written a report on this place. The ladies there are 40's maybe 50's. The one today looked 40, she was thick which I like, wish I had time this morning.
TJNiko I live in South Bay, but work in Oceanside, so the drive down to A2 Z makes this situation that much more upsetting. I've ventured to other places or have been recommended places (Thanks to PTJ), but have never found the magic and level of service at VIP, so that's the bar I'm trying to look for.
As for Lily, this was the exact thing mms said about Lulu. I texted to confim that Lily would be back next week for an extended late night visit with her and anothher girl there (Paula I believe). Was told Lily went to China. No coming back. Again, they already know they've bait and switched Lily with Summer on me sonetime last month. So not much of a coincidence for the same result. I went to visit before the closed down the first time, trying to find my replacement for my ATF at other places (2 of which will not be named. We all know at this point). Lulu and Lily were pretty close to what I was wanting with several differences. But again YMMV, and I know I treated these ladies very well. They know it, and had a "card" they offered to repeat clients.
If you have places you can recommend, I'm all ears.Damn, brother. I'm sorry to hear this. I hate when places are inconsistent. Especially after I recommended them for being good, based on my experiences. Mamasan at A to Z needs to stop playing these games. Our shared knowledge and what we write here should be deterrent enough for these establishments to stop playing games. They know we talk to each other! We're not casual once every six months customers! We're hobbyists! We're mongers! We have the combined clout to sink these shops. It's a bad business model to be inconsistent and to lie to your prime clientele. Again, I feel worse because I've had tremendous experiences here and have recommended this as my go to AMP. It's really upsetting that my fellow mongers all don't share the same experiences. I can forgive occasional inconsistency from a provider, because everyone has good days and bad days. But I don't forgive inconsistencies from management.
I'm seriously considering not posting my most recent experience now. I'm also seriously considering deleting my previous reviews of this establishment now. I don't want to steer anyone wrong on here.
Good luck, brother. I hope you find something better and please keep us posted. I'll do my best to keep you and others informed of developments down here in South Bay.
-TJNiko.
Now I'm wondering if the masseuse I saw was actually Baby. Although she was cute and provided good service I don't care for bait and switch and being lied to. If anyone else has seen Baby before and can confirm if she has a rose / flower tattoo on her leg / ankle I would appreciate it. If it wasn't Baby that I was told I saw then I too am done with them even if I received good service from a cute girl.
I was told Lilly would be back on the 21st and would be there for several months.Hey King. You definitely did not have Baby. Baby has no such tattoos. Aside from her beautiful eyes, stunning face, and magnificent smile, her most noticeable feature is her meaty vulva. She has curtain lips, which I personally love. They're not ridiculously huge but they are more than the typical vulva flaps.
Sorry you seem to have gotten lied to by management.
-TJNiko.
RChangDatyKing
08-18-23, 11:52
Hey King. You definitely did not have Baby. Baby has no such tattoos. Aside from her beautiful eyes, stunning face, and magnificent smile, her most noticeable feature is her meaty vulva. She has curtain lips, which I personally love. They're not ridiculously huge but they are more than the typical vulva flaps.
Sorry you seem to have gotten lied to by management..TJN- thank you for confirming I was given the bait and switch. I am done with A to Z base on this. I will not tolerate a spa that will do this, especially after I told MMS I drove 45 minutes to go there based on recommendations from fellow mongers and reviews for Baby. There are way too many spas that treat me great to deal with BS!
Now I'm wondering if the masseuse I saw was actually Baby. Although she was cute and provided good service I don't care for bait and switch and being lied to. If anyone else has seen Baby before and can confirm if she has a rose / flower tattoo on her leg / ankle I would appreciate it. If it wasn't Baby that I was told I saw then I too am done with them even if I received good service from a cute girl.
I was told Lilly would be back on the 21st and would be there for several months.This. Sorry you were basically lied to, King.
I was told the exact same for Lulu almost 2-3 months ago. And your situation with Baby is my exact situation with Summer (who mms said her name was Lily). At least Summer was sweet enough to tell me what was happening. Only difference is I had already met Lily SEVERAL times before, and was exactly what happend months before for Lulu. Can't be a coincidence when this is the MO now at this establishment.
RChangDatyKing
08-18-23, 12:53
This. Sorry you were basically lied to, King.
I was told the exact same for Lulu almost 2-3 months ago. And your situation with Baby is my exact situation with Summer (who mms said her name was Lily). At least Summer was sweet enough to tell me what was happening. Only difference is I had already met Lily SEVERAL times before, and was exactly what happend months before for Lulu. Can't be a coincidence when this is the MO now at this establishment.Hey D619! Bro, thanks for the follow up reply. Maybe that's why my provider didn't say anything when I asked if her name was Baby and I was calling her "Baby. " I wonder if she thinks I was just calling her baby as I was pounding away. LOL.
Yeah, I'm done even if the real Baby and Lilly returns. Thanks to TJN confirming I was given the bait and switch. These establishments need to know if they play these games we can't take them seriously even if great reviews start appearing for them.
This. Sorry you were basically lied to, King.
I was told the exact same for Lulu almost 2-3 months ago. And your situation with Baby is my exact situation with Summer (who mms said her name was Lily). At least Summer was sweet enough to tell me what was happening. Only difference is I had already met Lily SEVERAL times before, and was exactly what happend months before for Lulu. Can't be a coincidence when this is the MO now at this establishment.Pasi a visit last Saturday after calling ahead and reserving Paula. Performance was nowhere near what had been described here (yes I'm aware of YMMV), but what got me was at the end she giggled and said her name was Cici. It's too far to drive for shenanigans like that.
GL.
SeanMendez345
08-18-23, 16:16
So after PTJ talked about his 2 in 1 day. I thought about going back and trying may but someone else had already beat me with the idea. So I was like fine I guess I will just go with joy for a bit.
But unf joy was out and said she would be back in a few days. But they said they had a new girl coco.
So coco is a cute girl young Nice body Decent B cups. Grippable ass. So I was like. Well I can work with that. She had a cute smile and was just a generally cute girl in my opinion. But her service was suprisingly better then I expected. Every monger has a check list in there head if she's going to do this or that and she kinda just walked down mine with ease withoutout saying much (limited english but translator on deck).
She started me of laying me down on the bed then getting me ready for a nice sensual BBBJ and while gripping onto her ass. Into her putting on the jimmie then Jumping on top of me riding me until I was satisfied with that position. Next was Missionary Into Doggie. All taking my time and just letting me take the lead. Eventually leading to me thinking man I want to bust in her mouth. So then I gave the signal asking was it okay to cum in her mouth and she smiled and said yes baby. Nice. So A pretty good session in my books.
Hey D619! Bro, thanks for the follow up reply. Maybe that's why my provider didn't say anything when I asked if her name was Baby and I was calling her "Baby. " I wonder if she thinks I was just calling her baby as I was pounding away. LOL.
Yeah, I'm done even if the real Baby and Lilly returns. Thanks to TJN confirming I was given the bait and switch. These establishments need to know if they play these games we can't take them seriously even if great reviews start appearing for them.Some of my best times were recommended by you in the past for other places. Had to return the favor and cover your 6.
Pasi a visit last Saturday after calling ahead and reserving Paula. Performance was nowhere near what had been described here (yes I'm aware of YMMV), but what got me was at the end she giggled and said her name was Cici. It's too far to drive for shenanigans like that.
GL.This pissed me off so I had to say somerhing. I had warn people.
With amount of other gentlemen like TJN talking up the establishment, but seeing how they'd treat a loyal patron since before they closed down and reopened made me realize I need to let the others on the boards know before they get taken like I was.
This pissed me off so I had to say somerhing. I had warn people.
With amount of other gentlemen like TJN talking up the establishment, but seeing how they'd treat a loyal patron since before they closed down and reopened made me realize I need to let the others on the boards know before they get taken like I was.This post was not a slight on TJN's experience there or the info he shared. I would follow his lead and / or advise, his posts have always been solid. A great contributor. This is on Mms and employees.
TJN- thank you for confirming I was given the bait and switch. I am done with A to Z base on this. I will not tolerate a spa that will do this, especially after I told MMS I drove 45 minutes to go there based on recommendations from fellow mongers and reviews for Baby. There are way too many spas that treat me great to deal with BS!I feel terrible for sharing my, honestly, outstanding experiences there and naively expecting they'd treat everyone the same. I know I've had a few mongers PM and share similar experiences to my own. But these businesses are motivated by earnings over customer service and, unfortunately, will behave in this manner. I feel guilty and partly responsible to the ones who got the bait and switch because of my reports. I assure you though the reports were reflective of the true experiences I received. I also guarantee that if you'd seen Baby, you'd know it and you'd definitely be going back. This is why this behavior by the AMP is so frustrating. They're burying themselves by lying to clients.
-TJNiko.
RChangDatyKing
08-18-23, 20:03
Some of my best times were recommended by you in the past for other places. Had to return the favor and cover your 6.Thanks brother! By lying and doing the bait and switch MMS did a disservice to her girls and spa; for what $60 HF?
RChangDatyKing
08-18-23, 20:08
This post was not a slight on TJN's experience there or the info he shared. I would follow his lead and / or advise, his posts have always been solid. A great contributor. This is on Mms and employees.
I feel terrible for sharing my, honestly, outstanding experiences there and naively expecting they'd treat everyone the same. I know I've had a few mongers PM and share similar experiences to my own. But these businesses are motivated by earnings over customer service and, unfortunately, will behave in this manner. I feel guilty and partly responsible to the ones who got the bait and switch because of my reports. I assure you though the reports were reflective of the true experiences I received. I also guarantee that if you'd seen Baby, you'd know it and you'd definitely be going back. This is why this behavior by the AMP is so frustrating. They're burying themselves by lying to clients.
-TJNiko.I agree, TJN this is not a knock on you bro. MMS did this to herself, the spa and girls. She probably thought I was going to be a one time and done customer because I told her I was driving 45 minutes to get there so she thought she had nothing to lose with the bait and switch.
That's okay though because I had an amazing session with a hot UTR today. I'll probably go back again tonight or tomorrow morning before the storm.
I feel terrible for sharing my, honestly, outstanding experiences there and naively expecting they'd treat everyone the same. I know I've had a few mongers PM and share similar experiences to my own. But these businesses are motivated by earnings over customer service and, unfortunately, will behave in this manner. I feel guilty and partly responsible to the ones who got the bait and switch because of my reports. I assure you though the reports were reflective of the true experiences I received. I also guarantee that if you'd seen Baby, you'd know it and you'd definitely be going back. This is why this behavior by the AMP is so frustrating. They're burying themselves by lying to clients.
-TJNiko.You were truthful in your experiences there. Your review of Lily was spot on as I was already seeing her when you reported about her. (I was recommended Lily by mms which was how this whole thing started because verbatim, it happend all over again with Lulu. Exactly qith the time frame of the return). That was your truth, and don't need to apologize for it when, like you said, managment is ruining it. It hasn't happened to you, but just letting you know what to lookout for if they try to pull this stunt on you.
Lulu and Lily were my go to's because everytime mms offered someone else, it nearly falls flat in comparison to either of these women from this establishment. Emma, Mia, Wendy, Lisa, Mimi. Now I wouldn't know who I am seeing with this bait and switch.
This post was not a slight on TJN's experience there or the info he shared. I would follow his lead and / or advise, his posts have always been solid. A great contributor. This is on Mms and employees.Yes. Absolutely not a slight at TJN. I reached out through a PM just to show it wasn't a knock, but was also a warning of what was happening and how pissed I was at mms doing this because it conflicted with the info she gave me. The stories clarfied that and I had to post what happened to me. Because "If it can happen to me". Ya know the rest.
RChangDatyKing
08-18-23, 21:34
Yes. Absolutely not a slight at TJN. I reached out through a PM just to show it wasn't a knock, but was also a warning of what was happening and how pissed I was at mms doing this because it conflicted with the info she gave me. The stories clarfied that and I had to post what happened to me. Because "If it can happen to me". Ya know the rest.Yeah not cool for her to treat a 2-year repeat customer like that. Definitely, if she treats her regulars like that we already know how she was going to treat a first time customer. I am already an example of it. The unfortunate thing is the girl I saw wasn't that bad, but I wanted to see the true beautiful Baby.
Gold Spa on ECB. Great looking huge tit latina. Erica. Short good firm massage, BBBJ, Daty (which she is really into) Russian, CFS, Finish in between the giant globes. Hair dyed bright red\magenta. Erica. If I'm not mistaken, it's the same Erica from Daisy. She mentioned she works in CV couple days a week. Would repeat. 6. 5-7 out of 10 boners.
GL.
This post was not a slight on TJN's experience there or the info he shared. I would follow his lead and / or advise, his posts have always been solid. A great contributor. This is on Mms and employees.I appreciate your words, GilfLover. I was just doing my best to share my finds at that AMP and trying to make sure the wealth went around.
-TJNiko.
I agree, TJN this is not a knock on you bro. MMS did this to herself, the spa and girls. She probably thought I was going to be a one time and done customer because I told her I was driving 45 minutes to get there so she thought she had nothing to lose with the bait and switch.
That's okay though because I had an amazing session with a hot UTR today. I'll probably go back again tonight or tomorrow morning before the storm.I appreciate your post too, King. I'm glad you found an UTR provider to get the bad taste of the bait and switch out of your mouth.
-TJNiko.
Yes. Absolutely not a slight at TJN. I reached out through a PM just to show it wasn't a knock, but was also a warning of what was happening and how pissed I was at mms doing this because it conflicted with the info she gave me. The stories clarfied that and I had to post what happened to me. Because "If it can happen to me". Ya know the rest.I appreciate your PM earlier, Dwykz, and your post here as well. I also absolutely, 100 percent, agree with your analysis on this. If you're an experienced customer at the AMP and they pull that on you, they'll certainly do it to anyone. This has been another lesson in the long education of an experienced monger that no matter how long you're in this game, stupid shit still happens to us. This forum and its members have always been very supportive to me and it's because of that that I'm always eager to give back and seldom do I keep a find to myself. It sucks that a shadow is now cast over a place that could have gotten very successful if they'd stuck to the rules of fair play. They'll suffer for it now. Less mongering at an AMP means the AMP will lose the young and beautiful girls who are looking for volume of clientele. I'm still sorry for those of you that got an experience different than mine, especially if your visit was based on my recommendation.
Good luck gentlemen.
-TJNiko
I'm not a frequent hobbyist, but when the mood strikes, the mood strikes. While FS is fun, I think non-FS is a bit more my speed these days. So last weekend I decided to try someplace new (to me). Based on some of the forum posts, I opted to try Hans last weekend. It was a late afternoon and I went as a walk-in. I happened to draw Ella for my half hour session, which was. 50. To me, Ella had GND looks, pleasant smile, and welcoming attitude. Service was good and what I expected as a first time visit, nothing crazy. The massage was light as I asked and the tease and finish hit the spot. She also allowed for MT / OTC, but I didn't push any boundaries. If it's a place I'd been before, typically I place the donation on the table. But since I hadn't been before, I wasn't sure what to tip? We didn't discuss menu items and she just went for a standard HE. When we finished, I asked her how much to tip? She just smiled and said "whatever you want. " I told her she could just tell me, but she wanted to leave it up to me, LOL! I understood that she was just protecting herself, so I told her that at other places I've tipped. 60 for the same service and she seemed to be okay with that. All in all it was a good first time and I'd consider returning. I also liked that the parking lot was practically empty at that time, LOL! For those that frequent Hans, was my tip adequate / standard for the service here? If I'm not mistaken, I think I've read in the forums that this place was a little higher than some other places? Or maybe that was another place in the area? So I wasn't sure. I just want to be fair.
Also, I know this is a YMMV hobby no matter where you go, but with more frequent visits does the menu open up a bit more at Hans? I'm not necessarily looking for FS, but maybe something closer to FBSM? I know that's another topic / forum all together, but wondered if something closer to a FBSM experience exists at any AMPs in SD? I haven't visited any indie FBSM providers since SDASP days. I guess I'll have to reacquaint myself with those waters another time. .
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Read some of the comments on Mesa Spa so decided to check it out. Oh my, that girl kelly is fucking hot. Theres that other person tacobull mentioned Ivy, and yeah she's got some heavy knockers but Kelly man with her young looks and two big personalities really stands out. To put it shortly, got a little massage, girl talked some english so was nice to have some conversations, the place was clean too, and had a nice cfs and BBBJ. I saw the other girl nancy and yeah she looks good too. Anyways I'm not good with words but yeah just wanted to say that the place is legit.Yeah Ivy made a point of introducing me to Kelly after the threesome and I'm 100% coming back after the storm to fuck all 3. If they're mysteriously closed for an hour on Monday that's my bad.
Been down here a couple years now and have always ventured north for my playtime, which is sporadic at best. I have been looking at old reviews for this area- CV and surroundings- and they have been spotty and inconsistent. Any recent recommendations? Thanks- 5.
Member #6585
08-19-23, 14:12
Also, I know this is a YMMV hobby no matter where you go, but with more frequent visits does the menu open up a bit more at Hans? I'm not necessarily looking for FS, but maybe something closer to FBSM? I know that's another topic / forum all together, but wondered if something closer to a FBSM experience exists at any AMPs in SD? I haven't visited any indie FBSM providers since SDASP days. I guess I'll have to reacquaint myself with those waters another time. .You can definitely get something a bit closer to an fbsm at Hans! I've gone there a few times and have always been able to have the clothes come off during the massage or after. While I've never tried for FS or a BJ, I've always been able to DATY / FIV and get an HJ finish. It's always fun there when I'm not in an FS mood, they always seem to enjoy the fun. For just a HE, 60 seems fair imo.
BTW, just wanted to toss Spa Capri that's just down the road from Hans as another spa with good non-FS fun and really attractive girls. I'm working on a couple girls there and it feels like I might be able to get FS out of them eventually but we'll see.
So after PTJ talked about his 2 in 1 day. I thought about going back and trying may but someone else had already beat me with the idea. So I was like fine I guess I will just go with joy for a bit.
But unf joy was out and said she would be back in a few days. But they said they had a new girl coco.
So coco is a cute girl young Nice body Decent B cups. Grippable ass. So I was like. Well I can work with that. She had a cute smile and was just a generally cute girl in my opinion. But her service was suprisingly better then I expected. Every monger has a check list in there head if she's going to do this or that and she kinda just walked down mine with ease withoutout saying much (limited english but translator on deck).
She started me of laying me down on the bed then getting me ready for a nice sensual BBBJ and while gripping onto her ass. Into her putting on the jimmie then Jumping on top of me riding me until I was satisfied with that position. Next was Missionary Into Doggie. All taking my time and just letting me take the lead. Eventually leading to me thinking man I want to bust in her mouth. So then I gave the signal asking was it okay to cum in her mouth and she smiled and said yes baby. Nice. So A pretty good session in my books.Thank you brah. Trying to visit soon.
Yeah it's the one that taco bull reviewed and lobstro. They had a change in ownership recently and I've been loving their service ever since. I like going there too since I'm more up north so the Miramar and Mira Mesa area is more convenient for me. Anyone up north should check it out because I know they trying hard to get customers.Does this change affect Arjon and the KM location too?
I had a pretty lackluster experience the one time I went to Arjon (Miko).
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Hey Cruzier! I remembered YoYo. She was fun. There was another one I was seeing there with nice boobs but I can't remember her name now. Anyways, the "manager" is Mia. The times I've been in she's always been the one to greet me so I assumed she's the manager. Every time I ask if she will give me a massage she always tells me she will give massages when everyone else is busy. One time when everyone was busy she did take a customer. I just need to time it right one day. However, the 3rd or 4th time I saw her (daytime) she didn't look as "cute" as the first time, but still nice in terms of AMPs nowadays. LOL.
I've seen Cindy and I too like her. Man, you think she's in her 40's? I thought maybe younger because she looks cute. Yes, I too like her MBC style of finish. Yes, I too would repeat with Cindy. I'll message you another one I've been seeing there. I don't want them to know I'm writing reviews about them. If I mention the other cutie I'm seeing there they'll figure it's me and I don't want that. I want to be discreet and keep trying to see if Mia will see me. LOL.Your story with Mia reminds me of the manager at Convoy. Went there a lot prior to Covid because I didn't know any better. Always saw her, but never got a massage from her. I've only been once or twice since. Mainly because there is a very popular restaurant a few doors down, and there are always crowds of families waiting on the sidewalk. Pre-covid Coco was my favorite. Little black tennis skirt and a sweet demeanor. My first UTR action too.
I'd say 35-40. That's including the "Asian 10". She definitely looks 28-32 with her little spinner body and cute personality. I'll have to visit again soon. Damn storm.
You can definitely get something a bit closer to an fbsm at Hans! I've gone there a few times and have always been able to have the clothes come off during the massage or after. While I've never tried for FS or a BJ, I've always been able to DATY / FIV and get an HJ finish. It's always fun there when I'm not in an FS mood, they always seem to enjoy the fun. For just a HE, 60 seems fair imo.
BTW, just wanted to toss Spa Capri that's just down the road from Hans as another spa with good non-FS fun and really attractive girls. I'm working on a couple girls there and it feels like I might be able to get FS out of them eventually but we'll see.Thanks for the info BC! Sounds like the kind of experience I'd like to have! So are extras something you can ask for or are they offered? Or is this a YMMV and may or may not come with time? And what would an appropriate tip be for said extras? I'll have to give Spa Capri a shot as well. Thanks again!
ADwightSchrute
08-20-23, 09:03
Decided to venture out and try something new. Which was a mistake. Saw the ads and I was gullible and believed them. The wrong head wasn't thinking and said ehhh why not maybe it'll be good. Supposedly there was 2 girls, but didn't see anyone else. Also the place smelled like cooked rice, like they were just eating. The provider (she never gave me her name) was for sure mid to late 40's. She did have a decent body, but hairy Bush, A cups with an ok face. This place is located behind the 24 hour fitness. Once I entered I saw the gate which was a cue to me there extras were available. Did only 30 min as I was feeling place out. Lackluster massage with light teasing. Upon flip asked what I wanted and decided to give everything a try. Covered BJ with covered FS. Took it like a dead fish. The BJ was halfway decent, but took a while for me to get up. Overall service was bleh or as the youngings would say "mid. " I'm blanking on pricing as I did this earlier in the month. I wouldn't return though.
So been through a few AMPs locally here in Poway.
Trying to keep it simple. I am muscular and handsom, so YMMV if you are not. I call ahead of time and always try mid day or 1-2 hrs prior to closing.
HZ Body Therapy RB. Just basic HJ, older 50's+ ugly women fake advertisements.
China Spring Sabre Springs* - Mamasan is decent pretty face super tight body in her early 40's pretends to be 20's and lies about being in her 30's as I called her out haha and doesn't FS to clients but will HJ amd CBJ. She legit tried to date me and let me Bare FS the tip of my 8" . She can be rude but she is about the business. She kind of kept me an extra 30 minutes talking my ear off and probably kept me thinking I would be protection from a shady aggressive guy that was in another room. She doesn't advertise and only word of mouth that I am aware of. I just walked in and she straight up asked me what I wanted using hand gestures and put me on game on how the business goes down. She got clingy and couldn't take the entire 8" so I stopped going.
Strength Spa RB. Mamasan was petite mid 40-50's not ugly but not what was advertised. She bbj with cfs but no other young women as advertised. I just hit it since I was there. Time wasn't rushed and she let me hit it bare and bust in her but it she was adament not to do it with other workers ever again.
Secret Spot off World Trade. Advertised 2 young women BBJ FS. Both were actually early 40's but passable for mid 30's with banging bodies. I messed up and tried another spot (down below) and now know, I enjoyed myself with this place and it was a worth while investment with the treatment I got. The chick I was with had a beautiful face, nice big C-D breasts, firm little ass and she was a pilow princess. Some moaning, no kissing or eye contact but no rush to cum and she actually legit orgasmed and possibly squirted. My time was bothered with leaving to answer the door a few times which bothered me to seek another spot.
Erma. After reading all the b. S. Hyped up reviews on this forum I had a rock hard, hard on to try this spot. I called and asked who was working. I had the option of Yumi, Fiona, Cici and some other name. I show up and I get this actual legit young chick with braces which threw me off. I asked her name and if I remember right it was Cici. I thought I wanted Yumi based on the description but damn she is old and ugly and flat. I wanted Cici back but Fiona came in and she was aggressive with the kissing and touching (I wasn't used to that) and she negotiated while I was already standing their nude and hard. Fiona looks korean but says she is Chinese, doesn't speak english good, has a tatt in the center of shoulder blades below neck and had a Bush (not my thing). Bbj was decent but nothing special. She was lazy about riding and wanted doggy. I banged for about 15 minutes all the while she loudly moaned and begged for me to cumm. I felt rushed. Not going back for what I spent.
I'm looking for a latina and a place that lets me cum multiple times in my aloted time frame. As Erma dissapointed and ripped me off for 30 minutes and tried to market a 2nd girl for another rose if I wanted to fuck again.
I'm curious if anyone has tried ocean breeze or wildwood next to Abby's bbq or ocean spa in kearny. Ads are tempting but lessons have been learned.
RChangDatyKing
08-20-23, 21:43
Your story with Mia reminds me of the manager at Convoy. Went there a lot prior to Covid because I didn't know any better. Always saw her, but never got a massage from her. I've only been once or twice since. Mainly because there is a very popular restaurant a few doors down, and there are always crowds of families waiting on the sidewalk. Pre-covid Coco was my favorite. Little black tennis skirt and a sweet demeanor. My first UTR action too.
I'd say 35-40. That's including the "Asian 10". She definitely looks 28-32 with her little spinner body and cute personality. I'll have to visit again soon. Damn storm.Yes, CoCo at Convoy was fun. Convoy Massage used to be the spot pre-Covid. There were also Ana and Yuki. Both were yummy. The manager at Convoy, Angela? If it's the MILF with the big knockers she still works on the weekends I believe. I'm not really into prostate massage, lite tease at the starfish is okay but Angela was great with that service.
Yes, the Asian 10. I bet lots of the girls I see, including UTRs fall in that category. Here I am thinking I'm doing the deed with 20's and 30 something and they are all in their mid 30's to 40's. That's okay though they look good to me. LOL.
Yeah, damn storm. I so much wanted to go out today.
https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-relax-spa-poway-ca-90432#rubmaps.
Decided to just randomly take a chance, a bit of TOFTT, but at least it's in North county. Only one girl working I found out, I don't remember her name. No massage skills, just body rub, she was kinda goofy and not very attractive and flat. But I was there so went with it, CBJ to completion, down side was she had to jump up to answer the door at a crucial moment. Won't be returning.
KingHornySD
08-21-23, 13:59
Has anyone tried out Ark off of Bernardo Center Dr? Thinking of trying my luck their as a first timer.
Member #6585
08-21-23, 16:00
Thanks for the info BC! Sounds like the kind of experience I'd like to have! So are extras something you can ask for or are they offered? Or is this a YMMV and may or may not come with time? And what would an appropriate tip be for said extras? I'll have to give Spa Capri a shot as well. Thanks again!For non-FS spas, these extras are probably not usually offered, since these girls are definitely more cautious since they don't want the boss to find out or don't want to get in trouble with law enforcement. A fair tip for a nude HJ is probably 60-80 -- although I've seen some girls (albeit very hot ones) ask for 100. An HJ with daty I feel like 80-120 is fair. A CBJ, I would argue 80-100 is good, BBJ 100-120. FS I'll usually gravitate around 140-160 -- You can always tip extra if you really like the girl or their service, and they'll definitely want you to come back and will treat you well! Happy to hear about what other mongers think, but this is generally how I usually think about tipping.
I usually don't ask for extras straight up. As a newer massage enjoyer I would ask straight up and get turned down, and I think it was just too forward and made it seem suspicious or weird.
Usually my way of getting extras at a non-FS place is a game of progressing escalation. For example, it'll start with me laying down on the table with no towel, then if they don't put the towel on or do put the towel on but don't comment on it, I'll let my hand brush on their calf a little bit, and then rub it lightly and ask if they're okay with it, if they're okay with that I'll let my hand roam up their thigh and grab their butt a little. If they're cool with all that, but this point they're disarmed a bit and you can begin to negotiate a little for what you'll want. By this point you'll most likely get the HJ offered or they'll just do it. They probably won't ask for a specific amount of money up front, but will ask about an extra tip if they've never met you before. From here, you can feel them up and try to get them turned on a little bit, and if you want them to take their clothes off, be a little playful and maybe tug at the waistband a little bit and ask if you can take it off. Usually if they're okay with that you can definitely get some FOV action, and potentially convince them to let you DATY / FIV.
While this has worked for me many times on first visit, there have definitely been instances where it has taken me repeat visits. Ultimately you want to feel the vibe out, and respect their boundaries and consent. If they ever feel threatened or creeped out, definitely just apologize and stop pushing. You may be able to get more the next time, but being respectful, kind, and generous will go a long long way. Often times people mention how YMMV this hobby is, and while being decent looking, in ok shape are helpful, the most important things are bing clean and hygienic and being kind and respectful. There are some really entitled and fucked up guys in the hobby, and if you are one of the good ones, the girls will treat you well.
Additionally, on repeat visits if they like you, you might be able to get some special treatment and get them to give up FS. Often times non-FS spas don't have condoms with them, so its good to be prepared and have your own. If you don't have one, you might be able to go bare depending on the lady. But I've found that bringing a condom along and playing safe the first time or two makes them feel better about letting me go raw after.
Alternatively, you can go to an FS spas in the area like erma, mesa, ocean breeze, or grotto to just get it all right off the bat without having to do any of this song and dance. Sometimes I'll opt for that, but there are other periods in my life where that fun of finding an UTR girl is a much higher payoff than a fuck with a girl at an FS spa. Hope this helps!
Has anyone tried out Ark off of Bernardo Center Dr? Thinking of trying my luck their as a first timer.Full of fake reviews on rubmaps. They share the same fake review spammers with ELF spa, JL massage, and sometimes spa Capri.
Went to Mesa Spa this morning for a session with Kelly, here's my review, cross posted from rubmaps:
I was going to do all 3 today but I'd like to come back 3 times this week instead, so just Kelly this morning. She has a very pretty face, natural C's, flat stomach and a relatively small but round butt. I brought her a nice bra and panty set to wear for our session. She put that on in the room because I think some sort of renovation was going on in the building, we kissed a little bit and she started the massage. Very light to start with but used more pressure as we went along. I put a pillow under my head so I could watch as I played with her panty line while she rubbed my back. After the massage I sat up and she got down on her knees for some BBBJ, then climbed up on my lap and did a little grinding while we kissed some more and I played with her beautiful natural C cups. After a couple minutes of that I had to be inside her so I laid down and she climbed on top for some CG. The view with her tits hanging out over the top of the bra bouncing up and down is fantastic. Eventually I sat up to kiss her and she was grinding like before but this time with my dick inside her. Flipped around, did some Missionary, turned her on her side and fucked her sideways, then asked if she could finish me off with her mouth. She said yes and I sat back on the table and reached my hands down to squeeze her tits while she sucked me off at full speed. I'm not sure if something was lost in translation because she was very surprised when I came in her mouth. I gave little verbal signals as I was getting close but next time I'll be louder because I felt bad that she was so surprised. I'd originally laid out $160 for her on the chair but added $40 after that, $20 for the CIM and another $20 for the surprise.
She's only here another week, so check her out while you can. According to Ivy there's another new girl coming tomorrow, so I'll have another review soon I'm sure. If they ever get a skinny girl with a big butt I may never have to visit TJ again.
RolfTorren
08-21-23, 20:04
Hey GQ.
Welcome to the board. And great first post, full of specifics, warnings and successes. Sorry I don't have any intel to share regarding your inquiries.
So been through a few AMPs locally here in Poway.
Trying to keep it simple. I am muscular and handsom, so YMMV if you are not. I call ahead of time and always try mid day or 1-2 hrs prior to closing.
HZ Body Therapy RB. Just basic HJ, older 50's+ ugly women fake advertisements.
Jaguar300ZX
08-21-23, 23:37
Went to Mesa Spa this morning for a session with Kelly, She got down on her knees for some BBBJ, then climbed up on my lap and did a little grinding while we kissed some more and I played with her beautiful natural C cups. After a couple minutes of that I had to be inside her so I laid down and she climbed on top for some CG. The view with her tits hanging out over the top of the bra bouncing up and down is fantastic. Eventually I sat up to kiss her and she was grinding like before but this time with my dick inside her. Flipped around, did some Missionary, turned her on her side and fucked her sideways.Wow! No mention of a Condom! Is it true that you fucked Kelly Raw?!
Haven't contributed much lately so.
Went for half hour at Honey Spa a couple weeks ago and drew Lulu, about 40 and rather thick. Not a lick of English but knew numbers for dollars well. Massage was passable and after the flip she lost all her clothes and leaned down to let me play with her big C's and suck on those nice nipples. After a bit she slipped on the cover for a CBJ and put one foot up on the table so I could play with her pussy while she sucked me off. She was nice enough but but bigger than I like. 50 and 70.
Saw an ad for Lotus on Ohio st, new to me, made an appointment for TS and1 hour. Lina is probably 40 - maybe 50, and still in good shape. Funny thing was there was no table shower there, so she walked me down the block and in the back door from the alley to E Spa. Weird! Enjoyed the TS and massage and negotiated 70 for HE with full access. Got her # and may try Lotus if she says there is young pretty girl for me. Ha!
Doretti.
Wow! No mention of a Condom! Is it true that you fucked Kelly Raw?!Nah my bad, on Rubmaps there's the little checkboxes for CFS. Fwiw though I bring my own condoms because theirs tend to be on the small side.
Nah my bad, on Rubmaps there's the little checkboxes for CFS. Fwiw though I bring my own condoms because theirs tend to be on the small side.That's why I bring my own too.
Member #6585
08-22-23, 15:11
That's why I bring my own too.Me too! That's why I always bring monster condoms that I use for my magnum dong.
Just kidding, sad face
I've read a lot about May at Erma so I decided to give her a spin. I made an appointment yesterday morning to see her at noon. It was almost a bait & switch because whoever walked me into my room and was about to start wasn't May. She said May would be another 20 minutes so I waited.
May came in and gave a pretty decent back rub. Good pressure. Definitely knows what she is doing. After 15 minutes came the flip. She gave me a fairly enthusiastic BBBJ that was very effective. Teased the starfish a few times but never entered. Love her small-ish but completely natural soft tits. Went from CG to mish and finished in K9. It was all fairly mechanical but it got the job done. Finished off with another massage and I was on my way.
Had a good time but probably won't be repeating.
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HappyPlaces
08-22-23, 19:06
Me too! That's why I always bring monster condoms that I use for my magnum dong.
Just kidding, sad faceDon't forget the gas station performance enhancer cocktail!
I've read a lot about May at Erma so I decided to give her a spin. I made an appointment yesterday morning to see her at noon. It was almost a bait & switch because whoever walked me into my room and was about to start wasn't May. She said May would be another 20 minutes so I waited.
Had a good time but probably won't be repeating.I was there last week and didn't get that vibe. This is the second time recently I've read of them trying the B&S since then. Big red flag that I'll never go back.
Got a little bonus from work and had some free time so what better way than to check out a new spot. Unfortunately I probably would have been better served elsewhere.
Rolled up to Exercise spa in LM. Location decent, in the corner of a sevy parking lot. Walked in and was greeted by Tiffany. She was cute but def had some work done to her face and had MM's (prob large C or D) to fit her slim 5'5" ish body. Limited english noticed from the start but that didn't stop me from wanted to get a rub. Went to the first room on the left after walking in, gave her the half hour donation, undressed and layed down. Tiffany started with a soft pressure massage that was pretty meh and then went to light touching. Had me flip, motioned if I wanted extra and I said yes. She returned to the room and stripped down, she is prob in her mid 40's, really nice soft skin and that's about where her features ended. She did some BLS and BBBJ that was alright, nothing to get excited about. She let me DATY and I was kind of excited because she had a small kitty with perfect lips. She put a cap on, I had a feeling it was too small and it was (buzz kill. I don't bring my own because I don't want to have any on me ever). She mounted me and started to ride, then to mish, standing mish, doggy then mish but her little butt hanging off the edge a little. She had zero emotion through the session, made a few noises when I was pounding a little but I could tell she just wasn't into the session. I couldn't pop and decided to tap out after about 20 min. Good thing is she isn't a clock watcher and was cordial after but def will not be a repeat for me. She said she's the only one working there and that sometimes theres new girls that come in. . 5 / 1. 4.
DD.
Dark Knight619
08-22-23, 22:13
Me too! That's why I always bring monster condoms that I use for my magnum dong.
Just kidding, sad faceI bring water balloons to cover my Vienna sausage.
For non-FS spas, these extras are probably not usually offered, since these girls are definitely more cautious since they don't want the boss to find out or don't want to get in trouble with law enforcement. A fair tip for a nude HJ is probably 60-80 -- although I've seen some girls (albeit very hot ones) ask for 100. An HJ with daty I feel like 80-120 is fair. A CBJ, I would argue 80-100 is good, BBJ 100-120. FS I'll usually gravitate around 140-160 -- You can always tip extra if you really like the girl or their service, and they'll definitely want you to come back and will treat you well! Happy to hear about what other mongers think, but this is generally how I usually think about tipping.Once again, thanks for your advice BC! The tipping and "tactics" all align with what I had in mind, but nice to get confirmation especially on a place new to me. As I mentioned before I don't hobby that often, but I used to a number of years ago. I just wanted to see how much the game has changed if at all. New places, new faces, YMMV, the adventure continues! And as always, good hygiene and respect!
CunningLnguist
08-23-23, 12:02
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6193868492
I constantly see this ad listed on LC and a few other sites and it's obviously an AMP. Anyone know which one this leads to?
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6193868492
I constantly see this ad listed on LC and a few other sites and it's obviously an AMP. Anyone know which one this leads to?A to Z Spa in Chula Vista.
SeanMendez345
08-23-23, 17:34
So been through a few AMPs locally here in Poway.
Trying to keep it simple. I am muscular and handsom, so YMMV if you are not. I call ahead of time and always try mid day or 1-2 hrs prior to closing.
HZ Body Therapy RB. Just basic HJ, older 50's+ ugly women fake advertisements.
China Spring Sabre Springs* - Mamasan is decent pretty face super tight body in her early 40's pretends to be 20's and lies about being in her 30's as I called her out haha and doesn't FS to clients but will HJ amd CBJ. She legit tried to date me and let me Bare FS the tip of my 8" . She can be rude but she is about the business. She kind of kept me an extra 30 minutes talking my ear off and probably kept me thinking I would be protection from a shady aggressive guy that was in another room. She doesn't advertise and only word of mouth that I am aware of. I just walked in and she straight up asked me what I wanted using hand gestures and put me on game on how the business goes down. She got clingy and couldn't take the entire 8" so I stopped going.
Strength Spa RB. Mamasan was petite mid 40-50's not ugly but not what was advertised. She bbj with cfs but no other young women as advertised. I just hit it since I was there. Time wasn't rushed and she let me hit it bare and bust in her but it she was adament not to do it with other workers ever again.
Secret Spot off World Trade. Advertised 2 young women BBJ FS. Both were actually early 40's but passable for mid 30's with banging bodies. I messed up and tried another spot (down below) and now know, I enjoyed myself with this place and it was a worth while investment with the treatment I got. The chick I was with had a beautiful face, nice big C-D breasts, firm little ass and she was a pilow princess. Some moaning, no kissing or eye contact but no rush to cum and she actually legit orgasmed and possibly squirted. My time was bothered with leaving to answer the door a few times which bothered me to seek another spot..Thanks for the info man Poway really doesn't have much going on last time I went was too was Poway at Relax spa. And I had the thought "I could be doing this at home with my own hand." Which was a very forgetful session where I remember having interruptions where I am sure she just went into another room and just used her phone.
LoveYouLong
08-23-23, 21:16
For some reason I thought this place was HE only, and was also looking for someone with larger boobies and a solid massage. I walk in and a tall skinny girl greets me, she asks me if I can wait 10 minutes I said sure. Around 20 minutes later she comes in and starts a lite massage, then she leaves. No idea where she went. Comes back and start again, the place did not look like a HE only, definitely gave me FS vibes. After a few minutes she takes the towel off and and asks if I want oil, I thought what the heck, the massage was just ok and thought it might get better with oil. She leaves the room again, comes back a few minutes later, looks at her phone, starts the oil massage. Just ok. A few minutes later she leaves again without word and comes back in a minute or two with hot towel. She wipes me down and pulls the pillow out, she asks what I want and did the typical hand motion. Curious so I asked for everything, she takes the tip and leaves again. She comes back with the supplies and looks at her phone again, then she straps the condom on my member and does a CBJ, it was just ok, she was not into it and distracted. Really nothing to brag about. She grabs her phone again then finally gets on top of me and rides me for a bit. No kissing allowed and she wouldn't let me touch her nipples, too sensitive, huge bummer. Now I just want to get it over with. She lays down and we start MS until I blow in the bag, as soon as I blew she pushed me off, not allowing me to completely fill the bag. I am thinking WTF, she leaves again and comes back with the hot towel cleans me up and asks if I want water. I paid for an hour, by this time we are only at 45 minutes and I'm thinking maybe I will get a head or foot massage, nope, she comes in with the water and asks if I cam going to come back. English not good, I think she said her name is Coco. I will not return.
TheHoleTruth
08-23-23, 21:16
Any good parlors in or around North Park? Any good info would be appreciated. Thanks guys!
FryingPanAss
08-24-23, 00:44
Went to Mesa Spa this morning for a session with Kelly, here's my review, cross posted from rubmaps:
I was going to do all 3 today but I'd like to come back 3 times this week instead, so just Kelly this morning. She has a very pretty face, natural C's, flat stomach and a relatively small but round butt. I brought her a nice bra and panty set to wear for our session....
She's only here another week, so check her out while you can. According to Ivy there's another new girl coming tomorrow, so I'll have another review soon I'm sure. If they ever get a skinny girl with a big butt I may never have to visit TJ again.Visited the now rebranded Flanders after reading all the recent posts. This place was pretty awesome pre-covid with lots of younger talent cycling through. Then during covid it was mostly good due to one provider who eventually moved on to a spa near SDSU. Recently it was rather devoid of talent with Ivy potentially being the best with those jugs, but not really my type (hot, young, skinny). So after reading these reviews headed over to see what the fuss is about.
Met Jenny. Sure she's not bad, but looks like she had some work done and on the younger side of the spectrum, but nothing mind blowing. I passed and asked who else was working.
Ivy was there too. At this point, I was about to walk as I'd prefer to spend the money at an AAMP if I couldn't find my type.
But then out walked a 3rd girl. I asked for her name a couple times and my best guess is Nancy. She didn't speak almost any English, but it didn't matter. She is gorgeous imho. Very hot for an AMP girl and could be working in an AAMP (and would be on the hot end of that spectrum). 5'4", skinny, great boobs that seemed real but also that's hard to believe on that tight of a body. Nice face, but not DDG. But the body is up there as one of the best I've enjoyed at an AMP.
We cycled through as many positions as one can in 30 minutes. Hot and heavy, she was pretty into it, vocal, responsive. I'll be back for sure. Treat her nice!
Gold Spa on ECB. Great looking huge tit latina. Erica. Short good firm massage, BBBJ, Daty (which she is really into) Russian, CFS, Finish in between the giant globes. Hair dyed bright red\magenta. Erica. If I'm not mistaken, it's the same Erica from Daisy. She mentioned she works in CV couple days a week. Would repeat. 6. 5-7 out of 10 boners.
GL.Didn't know she offers bbj, I really enjoy her CBJ tho. She only lets me finish on her tits sometimes.
DreamFreez
08-24-23, 12:52
Drove all the way from LA to see some girls at VIP and UFS early last year, so they're basically closed right?
What are the alternatives for 21-24 year old places with good service. There's plenty of 30+ folks in LA and OC, was interested in the early 20's places in San Diego.
Drove all the way from LA to see some girls at VIP and UFS early last year, so they're basically closed right?
What are the alternatives for 21-24 year old places with good service. There's plenty of 30+ folks in LA and OC, was interested in the early 20's places in San Diego.UFS is still open.
Drove all the way from LA to see some girls at VIP and UFS early last year, so they're basically closed right?
What are the alternatives for 21-24 year old places with good service. There's plenty of 30+ folks in LA and OC, was interested in the early 20's places in San Diego.If you live in a city with 12 million people why would you drive to San Diego to get below standard service compared to your city? Much less VIP has been closed for 2 years and Mina is working in San Gabriel so you could just drive 10 minutes and go see her?
RickMartin2986
08-25-23, 00:41
Hey, sorry for late reply was getting swamped with work, hmm I don't think they are affect Arjon and KM I haven't been to those places in a while. All I know is that the Mesa Spa had an owner change, I think Ivy is now being the MMS there. All I can say so far is that my experience in Mesa Spa has been so far so good haha. I even heard another new young girl, Vivian, is coming soon. So yeah just give them a try and see.Tried Vivian the other night, she had good natural B cups and tight slit. She gives a decent massage, not a big fan of hairy strip though. I wish she was shaved, overall a good experience and in-line with expectations. She looks good in little black dress, damage. 8 on house. 18 tip. Decent BBBJ, CG and missionary.
New place (I think) in El Cajon on Arenele Ave. In a strip mall, S. Side, just off Johnson. Was in the area so thought I'd give it a shot.
House fee 40/ HH and 60/ H. Nice clean place. I'm thinking it's strictly a HE place. However, the girl who greeted me was a very slender Asian in a short dress showing some ample (man-made I'm sure) cleavage. Shower available. Which I took advantage of since I was pretty sweaty from some manual labor.
In the room Linda (think that was the name) made no attempt to use the towel for cover. I'm beginning to think maybe more than a HE place. However, all I got was a decent massage with not even a hint of teasing.
I guess I'm losing my touch. I'm in my 80's so I doubt she thought I was LE (unless maybe one of the RSVP dudes). I'm so used to the HE being standard that I never tried any overt moves. Maybe I should have. Anyways, the place is a mystery to me. I'll be looking for other reports to determine if I'll try again.
DreamFreez
08-25-23, 14:01
If you live in a city with 12 million people why would you drive to San Diego to get below standard service compared to your city? Much less VIP has been closed for 2 years and Mina is working in San Gabriel so you could just drive 10 minutes and go see her?What's the name of the place in SG Valley, that's a 10 min drive LOL.
Dark Knight619
08-25-23, 21:31
Tried Vivian the other night, she had good natural B cups and tight slit. She gives a decent massage, not a big fan of hairy strip though. I wish she was shaved, overall a good experience and in-line with expectations. She looks good in little black dress, damage. 8 on house. 18 tip. Decent BBBJ, CG and missionary.26 bucks? Dam that's cheap.
Legit question, has anyone been able to use HSA for massage at an AMP? I know you can get a doctors note that says you need massage for medical reasons, stress, pain whatever. So has anyone used their HSA coverage at an AMP? Could I potentially do that?
Legit question, has anyone been able to use HSA for massage at an AMP? I know you can get a doctors note that says you need massage for medical reasons, stress, pain whatever. So has anyone used their HSA coverage at an AMP? Could I potentially do that?I actually do know of someone who did that without any problems. You'd want to have a doctor's note in case you get audited.
I actually do know of someone who did that without any problems. You'd want to have a doctor's note in case you get audited.Thanks. Prob won't need it after all since I just learned HSA is just your untaxed money. I thought it was free money offered by health insurance. I don't care about saving 8 bucks for every 100, you can keep it, no different than just paying out of your pocket pretty much.
FrequentFlyer3
08-26-23, 18:22
26 bucks? Dam that's cheap.I think you can add zeros to that.
Hey I am going to be in San Diego for visit and always like to sample local flavor of where I am at. The offices and hotel I am going to be at are in the Convoy district right next to the executive airport. I saw ads for ELF Massage Spa and wondered if it was good. Tried searching and didn't see anything. If not what is a good FS place with attractive girls in the Convoy area.
Thanks in advance.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/san-diego/massage/asian/100-new-beautiful-asian-girl85/299829252175
Hey I am going to be in San Diego for visit and always like to sample local flavor of where I am at. The offices and hotel I am going to be at are in the Convoy district right next to the executive airport. I saw ads for ELF Massage Spa and wondered if it was good. Tried searching and didn't see anything. If not what is a good FS place with attractive girls in the Convoy area.
Thanks in advance.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/san-diego/massage/asian/100-new-beautiful-asian-girl85/299829252175Avoid elf. Their rubmaps is full of fake reviews by the same fake review spammers that only review elf, no. 1 ark massage, and one or two other places all owned by the same person.
Does anyone still go to Grotto? I was going to make my first AMP visit there but I see that no reviews have been left since early August on RM. Any intel? Thanks.
Avoid elf. Their rubmaps is full of fake reviews by the same fake review spammers that only review elf, no. 1 ark massage, and one or two other places all owned by the same person.Yes agree anything on rub maps is complete garbage.
This new place in So Bay was mentioned as opening soon so I stopped by last Friday to check it out. It is newly opened and is very nice and clean. The door was locked so I called the number and Myry (Mary?) Let me in. I opted for hhr just to try them out. The back massage was surprisingly good and on the flip, she asked "this OK? I told her to go right ahead and she asked about a tip. I told her How about I give you another 35? She nodded and smiled and proceeded with a nice hi. I'd guess she's about 40 and solid, with a good personality. She finished the rest of the massage and told me there were 3 girls and I should try them all. I didn't try for more than what was offered. 70 OTD with a water. I'll go back.
Doretti.
Does anyone still go to Grotto? I was going to make my first AMP visit there but I see that no reviews have been left since early August on RM. Any intel? Thanks.Last couple times I've driven by, they've been closed. One was kinda late at night around 10 pm or so even though they say they're open til 11 p. But another time was at 6 pm or so.
Last couple times I've driven by, they've been closed. One was kinda late at night around 10 pm or so even though they say they're open til 11 p. But another time was at 6 pm or so.Thank you! Maybe they choose when to close now. I've read so many stories about them and wanted to try it out. Luckily, we have many other options.
Canuck6234
08-28-23, 11:45
It has been a minute since my last visit with my current San Diego favorite and I was feeling a little congested. Grabbed my burner and called Me for an appointment with Taylor. I soon had an appointment time but as I was on my way over I get a message asking if I could delay my arrival by 30 minutes, well I guess I could have been an Ahole and made a fuss but that might have just pissed off the spa folks leading to a sub par experience. I managed to kill 15 minutes and arrived to find the limited parking at Me full. What is the deal with that old Toyota pickup filled with junk, hasn't moved in a while. Drove around the block a couple of times and parked down the street and around the corner. The parking killed another 10 minutes with the walk up to the spa.
MMS greeted me and said, "You for Taylor. " Well yes I am and handed her. 6 for hour house fee of. 5. Knowing I might not get the $10 extra back I smiled at her and said she should keep the 10. MMS face lights up and she says thank you as she grabs one of those mini bottles of water for me on the way to the massage room.
In a few moments in prances Taylor wearing a tight dress and nothing else. Taylor has been much discussed here so I will not be repetitive. If she gave a better massage she would be a rockstar.
After our activities were completed I realized why I like her so much. There are other cute and skilled ladies here in San Diego but non as bubbly and giggily as Taylor. As I trudge back to the car with my second mini bottle of Kirkland water, I pondered why she is approaching ATF status for me. Her personality is what does it for me (that tight body helps also). Now all they need is more parking.
You only pay an 8% income tax rate? Damn! You are either not well paid or have found some loophole. I pay about 35%.
Thanks. Prob won't need it after all since I just learned HSA is just your untaxed money. I thought it was free money offered by health insurance. I don't care about saving 8 bucks for every 100, you can keep it, no different than just paying out of your pocket pretty much.
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