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Ump1969
06-21-06, 17:36
I read all of the Chicago area boards and am posting this on the Chicago and NW Indiana boards. Some of you use AMPs. Let me give you food for thought. Although there are exceptions, most of the posts I read are guys paying 460 for a short crummy massage, followed by anywhere from $100-$140 for "extras. In other words, you guys are usually paying up to 2 bills for a short crummy massage, followed by a short sex session on a massage bed. I know a few of you report great experiences, but these are not the norm. If you are going to pay that much why not do an escort, do it right, and avoid possible LE raids? Maybe the AMPs would come down in price and offer girls with better attidues if they couldn't get away with high prices, crummy service, and bad attitudes? This is just my opinion- I welcome opposing views.

Licker 4369
06-21-06, 22:11
I love Asian women but the AMP's here seem to really suck!

Licker

PittPanther
06-22-06, 02:21
Ump,

My biggest problem with Escorts is SCHEDULING! A lot of guys, due to their obligations, are not in a position to call (or email) an escort, wait around for a call-back or reply, only to have her tell you "sorry, I'm booked today, how about tomorrow". Usually, I find myself with a small window of time where I can play, and the escorts just can't (or won't) accommodate last-minute appointments.

And besides, you read these boards. Escorts come with their own set of problems, number one being unreliability. Making an appointment, and then when the time comes, their cell phone goes straight to voicemail. Happens all the time, to a lot of guys. Now what do you do, after you've wasted several hours, or perhaps lost your entire "window of opportunity" to play?

However, with a MP I can just walk in anytime, and know that I will get service on my schedule, not theirs.

And besides, I don't know about you, but when I'm horny, I'm horny NOW! Not tomorrow! Not next week! NOW! And as I said, escorts just are not set up to deal with "instant gratification."



... Some of you use AMPs. ... In other words, you guys are usually paying up to 2 bills for a short crummy massage, followed by a short sex session on a massage bed. ...If you are going to pay that much why not do an escort, do it right, and avoid possible LE raids? ...

PeoplesElbow
06-22-06, 11:11
I read all of the Chicago area boards and am posting this on the Chicago and NW Indiana boards. Some of you use AMPs. Let me give you food for thought. Although there are exceptions, most of the posts I read are guys paying 460 for a short crummy massage, followed by anywhere from $100-$140 for "extras. In other words, you guys are usually paying up to 2 bills for a short crummy massage, followed by a short sex session on a massage bed. I know a few of you report great experiences, but these are not the norm. If you are going to pay that much why not do an escort, do it right, and avoid possible LE raids? Maybe the AMPs would come down in price and offer girls with better attidues if they couldn't get away with high prices, crummy service, and bad attitudes? This is just my opinion- I welcome opposing views.

Foul Ball! I just had to say that, sorry.

Aside from one AMP, your assessment about the Chicago AMP scene is correct, although handshakes are still around $40 to $60. The Asian pool here sucks and the K-Girl pool is non-existent. Today, you will get crappy service from a fugly Korean that is between 40 and 50. I tried the AAMP scene 3 times. The first time was great, the next two, a disaster. Fugly asian service. I still yearn for the days of VIP. The girls kept their clothes on and only gave handshakes but they were HOT.

San Francisco was once the Mecca for K-Girls and the AMP scene there blows as well (although not as bad as Chicago). A year ago - 6/30/05 - Black Thursday occurred and the AMP palaces in S.F. were busted. Now, a lot of the K-Girls are scattered in apartments around San Jose. The premise for the busts were immigration laws but a lot of the girls are still there. Of course HIV and prostitution runs amok in S.F.'s famous gay community but a crack down there would be a politically incorrect. Maybe we should all riot and then start a Yellow Fever Pride Day.

I stay away from escorts because of the craigslist horror stories. I also prefer Asians and Latinas and the pickings are there are slim.

Just my 2 cents.

Ump1969
06-26-06, 12:29
You gentlemen make some interesting points. I know from reading these reports that escorts come with their own problems. I also know from reading other boards around the country, that even escorts seem to offer better service than around chicago. It would probably be an interesting research study to explore why the Chicago area sucks for sex more than most other areas of the country. Despite popular opinions on this board, it cannot all be blamed on King Richard.

All I know is that ten years ago, I was able to find the occasional diamond in the rough in AMP's. You would be greetd by a friendly smile. Chances were the girl would be at least a 5 if not more. The massage might actually be pretty good before you were asked if you wanted "more". Now you go into an AMP and everything sucks. The girl will probably be butt-ugly. The massage will be a few minutes of crummy rubbing. The girl will not smile and there be no conversation besides "Lie on your stomach". When asking about extras, the girl will ask like she was asking you to punch her in the face, which is what I feel like doing with her attitude. After negotiating she lays on the table like a mannequin and lets you get off. Thirty seconds later, she is out of the room and you are wondering where your money went and why. For 2 bills, I would rather pleasure myself and get some decent Bears' tickets.

Call Me Booger
06-26-06, 12:41
This AMP conversation has been interesting to follow. Here's my .02.

I started off in this hobby at the AMP's in Rockford, about a year and half before they all closed down. I could not believe how incredibly hot these girls were. I was in heaven. One of my favorites was Cookie at Paradise, she gave a great ts and great massage and great FS. Yes the whold experience was great! The girls were mostly in their 20's-30's.

After the Feds ended our fun in Rockford, I headed to the Chicago burbs. From reading the boards here, I knew the talent wouldn't be as good, but I always hoped to find the diamond in the rough. I never did.

My last trip to AMP, I remember laying there thinking. Why am I here, getting the same hj from the same older gal (Candy at Spa 1)? After that, I swore off Chicago AMPs. (((But the little Boog, still says "cmon, give it another try"))))

Okay, I'm sorry for the rant, I am getting to a point.

I've always gone to AMPS or mps. I don't feel comfortable getting into the escort world. It seems like most escorts want a ton of your personal information, id, phone number, business card, past references. Sorry, I need my anonymity.

Barney
06-26-06, 14:48
[QUOTE=peopleselbow]Foul Ball! I just had to say that, sorry.

Aside from one AMP, your assessment about the Chicago AMP scene is correct, although handshakes are still around $40 to $60. The Asian pool here sucks and the K-Girl pool is non-existent. Today, you will get crappy service from a fugly Korean that is between 40 and 50.

Think about it. You go to an amp and pay $60 -70. for a table shower and a massage. That's right, you pay first and get what ever they dish out. Some times or alot of the times you get a half ass TS and a half ass massaage. Then get sucked into a half ass hj for $40. So now you spent at least $100. or more. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's about a days pay for me. I think for a days pay you should get a lot more. Some promise more next time. So you have to spend more. Better yet, you go back and that girl is gone, now you are back to square 1. If most of these amp ladies were back in Korea, they would be out a job, to old or they would be working the low budget place. That's why a lot of the amps don't do asian men, they won't put up with that BS. They want more for their money, because they know what you get back home in Korea for you money. I been to some really good amps and some piss poor ones too. If you are not happy, complain. It might do some good. Barney

PeoplesElbow
06-26-06, 15:44
http://www.eros-chicago.com/files/ny-ky4-ky1.htm

http://www.eros-chicago.com/section...ian_escorts.htm

Any one TOFFT?

Peace

Slim
06-26-06, 22:03
Pitt is so right. For those of us, whose opportunities come only on short notice unless the SO is out of town, there is just no way to do escorts. The AMPs drive me nuts because the girls don't look as good or are as young as my SO, so what is the point. I feel like the apts are my only option because I can go on short notice and take a shower before and after, the three keys for me. So, you only get a diamond about 20% of the time but at least it's something. I wish a group of escorts would get together and get an apartment. A few could always be there and we could call and then just go if they are not busy at that moment. Prescreening would be a requirement in this scenario, but at least we could get some quality and possibly non-asian escort experiences once in a while. Girls, are you listening?

HeyDude
07-12-06, 17:12
There are apts in the Gold Coast you get sent to when you call certain Reader ad numbers. Some of the girls are really hot but not very responsive, others are GFE and cute (fuckable). There is one who gives hot stones massages w FS. I call asking who is available at certain times and ask for descriptions. Accomodating is a really good description to hear. They'll tell you age hair color and measurements. $200 saves a lot of headaches. Usually a good time

Flaxydude
08-20-06, 10:43
"paying 460 for a short crummy massage:" the dude probably forgot to hit the shift key, which would have been $.60, about what door is at any AMP.

Ump1969
08-20-06, 20:39
Sorry about my crummy typing! I did mean $60 for a short crummy massage. But don't discount paying hundreds. About ten years ago, I checked out the place at IL. 53 and Lake. I remember a girls with 40's at the deak trying to entice me with her cleavage to pay $150 just to go in the back and negotiate. Fortunately my big head was in control over my little head that day. By the way, thanks to all those with the advice after my previous posts. When my car stops with a girl in the car, the first thing I do is hide the car keys. I also have another suggestion. Don't have anything with your real name and address where she can get at it. I've been reading too many posts from guys having scary people showing up at their doorsteps making threats and extorting money. If you do not control the situation, it will end up controlling you. Remember to be forceful. While there are some genuinely nice girls out there, for the most part they are out there for money, to feed their drug habits, or whatever. Your problems are the least of their problems. Most will take advantage of you if they can. You do not need to be cruel or abusive, which could ruin a potentially good situation for other guys. Just make sure you let the girl know who is in charge, keep your eyes open, and if you don't want it ripped off, keep it out her reach. If it doesn't have to be in the car,it shouldn't be. If it has to be in the car, but is not needed immediately. put it in the trunk before you leave home. Stay safe, fellow mongers!

Diddler
01-03-07, 16:20
don't discount paying hundreds. About ten years ago, I checked out the place at IL. 53 and Lake.

OOoooooo yeah-I walked through the door of this rip joint once, it's amazing that they exist at all with the word out and genuine opportunities to be had.

For what it's worth, I usually get the massage for the massage and let the extras develop as I go. So far I've never been had this way, and I do get great massages for my back. Escorts don't usually play that way on their schedule, and there's something about that whole scheduling thing that just rubs me wrong.

Flashman
01-17-07, 23:41
Oh for the days of great amp's. PS in nw ind., if it open this month, is still a great time for $2.

Other than that, the "chinese apartments" are alway everthing you want for 1.6. Some also give you a half decent massage and have self service showers.

A few still exist in the City, most in the NW burbs. Chicago after dark has the numbers. You just have to call and shop.

Hobby Rookie
02-27-07, 01:12
I've been an active member in this hobby for almost 15 years and a member of about 6 boards and have usually just been a lurker because I choose to lay low. However, I had to chime in on the whole SW/MP/Escort thing.

Been w/SWs, did the Show of Shows thing in Cicero, event went to Vegas and took advantage of the "flyers" that they used to have all over the place on the strip.

As exciting as it was to be "on the prowl" the least desirable common thread was "unknown variables" that get in the way of truly enjoying this hobby.

Just like any other aspect of this hobby, you have to do your homework in the escort scene. You'll probably make a few mistakes that will cost you some money, but eventually you find that groove that allows you to:

1. Know what you're getting and when.

2. Know what you're paying and not a penny more or less

3. Plan for the hobby so that you have the funds ready for when, as many brothers here have mentioned, ARE HORNY NOW.

4. Establishes your rep with providers, whether independent or agency to be able to make those last minute calls when you've got to "get some".

5. Weed out all the riff raff and not waste money looking for the "diamond in the rough" by seeking the indys/agencies that provide true quality day in and day out.

6. Have some fun with the hobby without having to worry about all the "unknown variables" that exist on the street, MP, jack shacks, or even on CL for that matter.

Everyone has their own opinion on what suits them best, but from experience, I can say that a well planned hobby is a fun hobby.

Just my $.02.

Very Dvs
01-16-08, 18:13
Ump,

My biggest problem with Escorts is SCHEDULING! A lot of guys, due to their obligations, are not in a position to call (or email) an escort, wait around for a call-back or reply, only to have her tell you "sorry, I'm booked today, how about tomorrow". Usually, I find myself with a small window of time where I can play, and the escorts just can't (or won't) accommodate last-minute appointments.Yeah, escorts are a pain in the ass. You have to catch them when they are "available." I have run into this problem quite a bit. The day of the week and time don't seem to make a difference either. Not to mention agency escorts never look like the pictures, haha. There are some nice escorts, but a lot of them let it be known they are there on business.

Donny Devito
11-03-09, 16:50
This is a very interesting thread.

I like AMP's because they have a business license and a set location. I don't like escorts because I don't want to pay for a hotel room or bring them back to my house.

I like escorts in Vegas but who doesn't? They are hard to get to actually show up though, escorts go no-show on you a lot. That never happens at an AMP. Besides, in Vegas I'm all about the Casino Girls anyway.

Back to the AMP's. Their incall location that they provide, and plethora of locations, is the reason as why I choose them. They are always there. If escorts provided more incall locations at decent upscale hotels and they always showed up, maybe I would consider them.

I've gotten full service at an AMP for.6 including the.4 door fee. I've gotten BBBJ for.8 including the.4 door fee. It all depends on you and how well you can warm up your counterpart.

Babycash
11-04-09, 13:45
Any AMPs in calumet city some one told me about it never ask we but he told me there chineese and latinas there do you know anything about it.


This is a very interesting thread.

I like AMP's because they have a business license and a set location. I don't like escorts because I don't want to pay for a hotel room or bring them back to my house.

I like escorts in Vegas but who doesn't? They are hard to get to actually show up though, escorts go no-show on you a lot. That never happens at an AMP. Besides, in Vegas I'm all about the Casino Girls anyway.

Back to the AMP's. Their incall location that they provide, and plethora of locations, is the reason as why I choose them. They are always there. If escorts provided more incall locations at decent upscale hotels and they always showed up, maybe I would consider them.

I've gotten full service at an AMP for.6 including the.4 door fee. I've gotten BBBJ for.8 including the.4 door fee. It all depends on you and how well you can warm up your counterpart.

RogerC
11-05-09, 04:48
Ibut eventually you find that groove that allows you to:

1. Know what you're getting and when.

2. Know what you're paying and not a penny more or less

3. Plan for the hobby so that you have the funds ready for when, as many brothers here have mentioned, ARE HORNY NOW.

4. Establishes your rep with providers, whether independent or agency to be able to make those last minute calls when you've got to "get some".

5. Weed out all the riff raff and not waste money looking for the "diamond in the rough" by seeking the indys/agencies that provide true quality day in and day out.

6. Have some fun with the hobby without having to worry about all the "unknown variables" that exist on the street, MP, jack shacks, or even on CL for that matter.

Everyone has their own opinion on what suits them best, but from experience, I can say that a well planned hobby is a fun hobby.

I visited Europe not too long ago and checked out the Red Light Districts in Amsterdam and Brussels. I did my research before and during and all the variables Hobby Rookie describes don't exist there. The hardest nut to crack was finding a "good one", but once you did, she was usually in the same window at the same time, week after week.

Deizel5
11-05-09, 19:01
I know this post is old but is it still true? Where do you get reader ad numbers?


There are apts in the Gold Coast you get sent to when you call certain Reader ad numbers. Some of the girls are really hot but not very responsive, others are GFE and cute (fuckable). There is one who gives hot stones massages w FS. I call asking who is available at certain times and ask for descriptions. Accomodating is a really good description to hear. They'll tell you age hair color and measurements. $200 saves a lot of headaches. Usually a good time

Tkeung32
07-19-10, 17:03
I know this post is old but is it still true? Where do you get reader ad numbers?I would also like to know too.

Zeuss
07-19-10, 17:33
Chicago Reader: http://classifieds.chicagoreader.com/chicago/index

XxAmateurxX
03-15-13, 22:14
You gentlemen make some interesting points. I know from reading these reports that escorts come with their own problems. I also know from reading other boards around the country, that even escorts seem to offer better service than around chicago. It would probably be an interesting research study to explore why the Chicago area sucks for sex more than most other areas of the country. Despite popular opinions on this board, it cannot all be blamed on King Richard.

All I know is that ten years ago, I was able to find the occasional diamond in the rough in AMP's. You would be greetd by a friendly smile. Chances were the girl would be at least a 5 if not more. The massage might actually be pretty good before you were asked if you wanted "more". Now you go into an AMP and everything sucks. The girl will probably be butt-ugly. The massage will be a few minutes of crummy rubbing. The girl will not smile and there be no conversation besides "Lie on your stomach". When asking about extras, the girl will ask like she was asking you to punch her in the face, which is what I feel like doing with her attitude. After negotiating she lays on the table like a mannequin and lets you get off. Thirty seconds later, she is out of the room and you are wondering where your money went and why. For 2 bills, I would rather pleasure myself and get some decent Bears' tickets.You are right man.

Eric Lex
03-07-17, 22:08
I've been an active member in this hobby for almost 15 years and a member of about 6 boards and have usually just been a lurker because I choose to lay low. However, I had to chime in on the whole SW/MP/Escort thing.

Been w/SWs, did the Show of Shows thing in Cicero, event went to Vegas and took advantage of the "flyers" that they used to have all over the place on the strip.

As exciting as it was to be "on the prowl" the least desirable common thread was "unknown variables" that get in the way of truly enjoying this hobby.

Just like any other aspect of this hobby, you have to do your homework in the escort scene. You'll probably make a few mistakes that will cost you some money, but eventually you find that groove that allows you to:

1. Know what you're getting and when.

2. Know what you're paying and not a penny more or less

3. Plan for the hobby so that you have the funds ready for when, as many brothers here have mentioned, ARE HORNY NOW.

4. Establishes your rep with providers, whether independent or agency to be able to make those last minute calls when you've got to "get some".

5. Weed out all the riff raff and not waste money looking for the "diamond in the rough" by seeking the indys/agencies that provide true quality day in and day out.

6. Have some fun with the hobby without having to worry about all the "unknown variables" that exist on the street, MP, jack shacks, or even on CL for that matter.

Everyone has their own opinion on what suits them best, but from experience, I can say that a well planned hobby is a fun hobby.

Just my $.02.Completely agree. I am def on the same boat.

As someone already mentioned, too, I cannot believe how hard it is to find a good mix of providers with different ethnicities in a big city like Chicago. It's frustrating, but I'd rather take the time to do my research than become financially frustrated looking for the best ladies.

Where are the sexy Latinas, Caucasians, and AA ladies at?!