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Slacker30
07-01-13, 11:51
I know questions aren't too popular here but I've got to ask something. About a month ago I was at Anfu and I always take the table shower. When I got back to the room I noticed my pants where in a different position. I quickly checked my wallet and while everything was there it was put in backward. I have had my wallet for awhile and it has a curve so I know it was backward. Anyone else ever have this happen? Makes me worried about credit card info. I've wanted to go back & I know I can leave the wallet and just bring money in. I've also thought of skipping the table shower but I've noticed all reports here mention the ts. Without the ts I'm worried I may not have as much fun. Knew a place like that many years ago, no ts and no real fun. Anyone go here without the ts? If you don't want to report here maybe just pm me. Really curious if anyone else has had or noticed the same problem with the pants?I have been to ANFU various times. I never get the table shower. I never leave the room with my valuables behind. Some spas such as Paradise Awaits by Sun City have a locker to put your wallet in and don't allow your clothes in the massage room.

I just go to the bathroom first if needed, then go to the room, and have the massuese get me hot wet towels to clean up with after the session.

Girls move around in these places. It's your word against theirs if something is missing. Even if you take only the 140 for FS and pay for the massage, you still have your cash in the room while you are getting the TS, unless you pay up front for your extras, which is only done if you are a repeat customer.

Jw No Phx
07-01-13, 12:03
I know questions aren't too popular here but I've got to ask something. About a month ago I was at Anfu and I always take the table shower. When I got back to the room I noticed my pants where in a different position. I quickly checked my wallet and while everything was there it was put in backward. I have had my wallet for awhile and it has a curve so I know it was backward. Anyone else ever have this happen? Makes me worried about credit card info. I've wanted to go back & I know I can leave the wallet and just bring money in. I've also thought of skipping the table shower but I've noticed all reports here mention the ts. Without the ts I'm worried I may not have as much fun. Knew a place like that many years ago, no ts and no real fun. Anyone go here without the ts? If you don't want to report here maybe just pm me. Really curious if anyone else has had or noticed the same problem with the pants?A couple years ago I stopped at a different AMP on the spur of the moment. I'm not giving the name since it's not recent. My wallet had more cash than I intended to spend. It seemed to me that at the end of the table shower I was kept out of the hallway for just a few seconds. Later, back in the room when the masseuse wouldn't negotiate down from FS tip of $$, I figured they'd checked my wallet, saw the cash and signaled to them that I had more than necessary to cover their starting tip amount and they could be firm in their negotiations. My wallet also had several credit cards, but none have ever turned up with questionable charges. I got the feeling that they wouldn't want to expose themselves in that way.

I haven't been back since, but they're one that's fairly close to me and remains on my list when I can get the time and funds (only 2-3 visits a year). When I return, I'll be sure to better protect my money and see if they negotiate down a bit. I prefer $$ for the whole event. 60 minute massage and tip.

JW

DrPotato
07-01-13, 17:38
Keep hearing it here and at first I thought some dudes were into transsexuals but what's the ts mean in reference to massage? Never heard that elsewhere.

RagsDen
07-01-13, 18:26
Keep hearing it here and at first I thought some dudes were into transsexuals but what's the ts mean in reference to massage? Never heard that elsewhere.Table Shower.

Wireless91910
07-01-13, 19:42
TS=Table Shower.


Keep hearing it here and at first I thought some dudes were into transsexuals but what's the ts mean in reference to massage? Never heard that elsewhere.

Az Dude
07-03-13, 09:58
A couple years ago I stopped at a different AMP on the spur of the moment. Back in the room when the masseuse wouldn't negotiate down from FS tip of $$, I figured they'd checked my wallet, saw the cash and signaled to them that I had more than necessary to cover their starting tip amount and they could be firm in their negotiations. When I return, I'll be sure to better protect my money and see if they negotiate down a bit. I prefer $$ for the whole event. 60 minute massage and tip.

JWDefinitely! They knew how much cash you had. Why settle for $$? My guidelines are tip at 2x the door entry fee. Therefore if the house fee is. 4 tip is. 8. 6 then $.2.

You get the picture. In and out for $.6 or less. AMPs are just too expensive IMHO when there are other values to be had on BP / CL and with gals that are UTR.

As an example. Last week in the bay area, had a two great AAMP experiences (Korean and Japanese) with the 'full meal deal' for $.4 and $.2 respectively. (this is total). Toss that in with a. 6 asian midget quickie (Dr. Ling Ling is a cool chick btw ;) ) and I would say that prices here suck by comparison.

Note: For the bay area, red book (only postings with reviews) is your guide. Along with the occasional BP cross reference.

Here in AZ I can only get that sort of deal at a few establishments where I have a long standing business relationship. (e.g. been going there for 10 years or so?)

Drill Press
07-03-13, 18:27
I have been to ANFU various times. I never get the table shower. I never leave the room with my valuables behind. Some spas such as Paradise Awaits by Sun City have a locker to put your wallet in and don't allow your clothes in the massage room.

I just go to the bathroom first if needed, then go to the room, and have the massuese get me hot wet towels to clean up with after the session.

Girls move around in these places. It's your word against theirs if something is missing. Even if you take only the 140 for FS and pay for the massage, you still have your cash in the room while you are getting the TS, unless you pay up front for your extras, which is only done if you are a repeat customer.When I go in, I put the door fee in one pocket, tip in another and leave my rings, wallet, watch in the car.

I ALWAYS go in with just cash & my car keys.

(Can't believe some guys go in with a wallet?)

Riffraff26
07-04-13, 16:53
When I go in, I put the door fee in one pocket, tip in another and leave my rings, wallet, watch in the car.

I ALWAYS go in with just cash & my car keys.

(Can't believe some guys go in with a wallet?) I only go in with cash and keys. That way it doesn't get stolen and sometimes the little head takes over the big head and I end up doing stuff I regret later.

Okane
07-05-13, 12:24
$99 for a year, sounds like a good deal, I am asking for your feedback.

I have been a customer of many of the rubmap places and have found.

That the girls rotate or change places often, sometimes I read a recent review.

And the girl reviewed is no longer there when I go.

If you subscribe, how useful the reviews have been for you?

My best info has come from fellow forum members who have been willing.

To exchange PM's with their experiences and I share my experiences in return.

Many Thanks.

Okane

MrGuapo
07-05-13, 13:49
Tops. So I went in to tops the other day to check it out for myself finally. It has good reviews on rubmaps and a few on here as well. I go in and run in to the main chick who does rubs over at Asian rose on southern and Val vista! Never had that happen before. So I ask for another chick and she's the only one working. Been there done that, but did it again haha! She is cool on prices so I don't even bother with the massage, I had her bend over the recliner in there and I hit it doggy for a bit and then had her ride reverse cowgirl. She is a little spinner so it's fun to pick her up and hit it hard. She doesn't watch the clock or screens much so it was fun, ended up leaving after 45 minutes of fun and didn't lose too much out of my wallet.

The foot spa. It's by massage savvy, I went in after reading a few good reviews. Had no luck, it was pretty legit and plus the chick was not my cup of tea. So I bounced because it didn't really seem like there was extras to be had with her.

DavePHX
07-05-13, 18:58
I have been a customer of many of the rubmap places and have found.

If you subscribe, how useful the reviews have been for you?

To exchange PM's with their experiences and I share my experiences in return.In my view, rubmaps is the best massage source. Especially since easy to organize see reviews of each place together and the various ways it can be indexed. Far more useful than randomness here.

I rarely if ever use PM for info, I want it in reviews in a well organized way like on rubmap.

I also want to get more active in some of the forums but just haven't had time.

The more members the better of course for more reviews but have been pleasantly surprised on the amount of current reviews.

I get tired of the mostly Asian places discussed here as I have little interest in foreign speaking, short Asians. And most at the opposite end of the Valley from me in No Phx. Obviously they dominate on rubs also but good enough coverage of the places I might be interested in, including for good real massage not just sex.

Humpie
07-06-13, 01:45
I have been to ANFU various times. I never get the table shower. I never leave the room with my valuables behind. Some spas such as Paradise Awaits by Sun City have a locker to put your wallet in and don't allow your clothes in the massage room.

I just go to the bathroom first if needed, then go to the room, and have the massuese get me hot wet towels to clean up with after the session.

Girls move around in these places. It's your word against theirs if something is missing. Even if you take only the 140 for FS and pay for the massage, you still have your cash in the room while you are getting the TS, unless you pay up front for your extras, which is only done if you are a repeat customer.Thanks, good to know the ts isn't required for the massage. Also thanks to everyone who answered. I guess I have to get over my old habit of not leaving the wallet in the car. Many years ago in another state I always left the wallet in the car until one day my car was broken into. Of course I was at a parlor in a seedy area late at night which I don't really do out here anymore. Old habits are hard to break tho.

Dick North
07-07-13, 19:28
Seriously, all you need is a monger wallet, a cheepie wallet to hold your potential donation (and protection) ,

By all means enjoy the TS as that often is part of the fun. Bring your monger wallet and put it on the towel rack or shelf or whatever in the TS facility so you can keep an eye on it. Once in your room, remove the protection* and place it elsewhere.

For the $'s that you spend, enjoy them to the max.

DN.


Thanks, good to know the ts isn't required for the massage. Also thanks to everyone who answered. I guess I have to get over my old habit of not leaving the wallet in the car. Many years ago in another state I always left the wallet in the car until one day my car was broken into. Of course I was at a parlor in a seedy area late at night which I don't really do out here anymore. Old habits are hard to break tho.

ps. *You figure it out.

FloatMyBoat
07-07-13, 20:25
Definitely! They knew how much cash you had. Why settle for $$? My guidelines are tip at 2x the door entry fee. Therefore if the house fee is. 4 tip is. 8.6 then $.2.

You get the picture. In and out for $.6 or less. AMPs are just too expensive IMHO when there are other values to be had on BP / CL and with gals that are UTR.

As an example. Last week in the bay area, had a two great AAMP experiences (Korean and Japanese) with the 'full meal deal' for $.4 and $.2 respectively. (this is total). Toss that in with a. 6 asian midget quickie (Dr. Ling Ling is a cool chick BTW.) and I would say that prices here suck by comparison.

Note: For the bay area, red book (only postings with reviews) is your guide. Along with the occasional BP cross reference.

Here in AZ I can only get that sort of deal at a few establishments where I have a long standing business relationship. (e. G. Been going there for 10 years or so?) Some of these new guys that are losing their wallets or paying way to much remind me of when I first was stationed in Rota, Spain. You could get FS for a carton of winstons and ten bucks. Then all the new sailors come in as we develop the sub base and they drive the price up to forty or fifty.

My advise is never let them see your money, frequent the places you know and develop a relationship like Dude says.

Hey just because she is new doesn't mean that it will be something special.

Have fun, get a burn wallet and don't leave it in the room. Daaaaa

Gold coast
07-12-13, 23:04
Recently, I am seeing a lot more gals rotate around the different Mesa AMPs. Not like the good old days before the licensing requirement where they would rotate from other states. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this?

I know ownership changes often on these places, but don't think it would cause the amount of girl rotation that I have seen lately.

Maybe a lot of it is just coincidence and people covering shift or maybe it is just summer. Whatever it is, makes it hard if I am trying to see my regulars and the new gals won't tell me where they have moved to.

Skylers
07-13-13, 17:37
Gents, here it goes. Have been doing my research and studied, going to take this new hobby for a spin and check out a place I've driven by so many times. Wish me luck and I will have a report here for you all very soon.

Sky out.

Slacker30
07-16-13, 19:28
Haven't been here in awhile and made the mistake of looking for a good time on Sunday evening when pickings are slimmer.

Went to Enchanted Forest first and the 2 girls there weren't to my liking. The masseuse who gave me an outstanding session last time was off.

Paid the $.40 for a 1/2 hour and saw Karen at AAA. Her massage techniques were non existent. Just rubbed me down with lotion even when I told her to give me a firm shoulder massage. Quick flip, asked what else she could help me with, I asked for the usual FS. She left for the condom without asking for money. I left the $140 (which is the normal fee) on the table while she was gone. She didn't count it prior to the activities.

She didn't like DATY so she said, put hand sanitizer on my hands before FIV, performed CBJ first, and periodically checked while doing Doggy and Mish to see if the condom was still on. I'd give her a C+ grade. No rush, she seemed to enjoy the boning, but I probably should have waited till Monday when more options were available.

Skylers
07-17-13, 01:42
Gents, have to say that my first time was better than I expected. Here goes. Went to stressed out AMP. Walked in like I owned the place and up to the window comes this tiny little Asian number. Named started with a M or something, she looked as though she was getting ready for a gymnastics meet with the number she was wearing. Asked for the 45 min and she took me back to the room. A little dark but bigger than what I thought it would be. She tells me to get comfortable and I did; she just happened to walk in when I was dropping the briefs and asked if I wanted the TS. Hearing nothing but good things about a TS I said yes. In the shower room she begins with my back and then to the front, making sure that I was clean in the right place several times. As I started drying off she took the towel from me and began drying me off which I thought was awesome.

Back in the room the lights are low but with more then enough to see what I came for. She asked if lotion was ok and I did not complain. An okay massage at best, I think she was trying, she rubbed my back, shoulders, neck, legs and a little on the heels. Then came the playful finger caressing for about 5mins and she whispered for me to turn over.

On the flip she asked if "I just want massage?" I said no and before I could say anymore she said "hand or mouth". This was the moment I have been waiting for, I didn't ask for the hand and she quoted me at $. Tried to talk her down but she wouldn't budge. I'm not the best at negotiating either. Did the exchanged and she walked out and the moment she returned the little blue number she had on hit the floor. Amazing! She must have been early 40 but damn did she rock a 21 yr old bod. Firm B's and a slim perky ass. She kneeled down to the floor and slide on the jacket. Being a grower and not a shower I immediately raised to the occasion. I laid back on the table and she climbed on with me. Didn't take long for me to finish since its been awhile. Got to touch all of the goods while she worked and when everything was over she cleaned me up gently with a warm towel. Nice girl, I can't wait to see her again!

Thanks for all the info and stay safe gents.

Sky out

NumberOnePerve
07-19-13, 16:18
Gents, have to say that my first time was better than I expected. Here goes. Went to stressed out AMP. Walked in like I owned the place and up to the window comes this tiny little Asian number. Named started with a M or something, she looked as though she was getting ready for a gymnastics meet with the number she was wearing. Asked for the 45 min and she took me back to the room. A little dark but bigger than what I thought it would be. She tells me to get comfortable and I did; she just happened to walk in when I was dropping the briefs and asked if I wanted the TS. Hearing nothing but good things about a TS I said yes. In the shower room she begins with my back and then to the front, making sure that I was clean in the right place several times. As I started drying off she took the towel from me and began drying me off which I thought was awesome.

Back in the room the lights are low but with more then enough to see what I came for. She asked if lotion was ok and I did not complain. An okay massage at best, I think she was trying, she rubbed my back, shoulders, neck, legs and a little on the heels. Then came the playful finger caressing for about 5mins and she whispered for me to turn over.

On the flip she asked if "I just want massage?" I said no and before I could say anymore she said "hand or mouth". This was the moment I have been waiting for, I didn't ask for the hand and she quoted me at $. Tried to talk her down but she wouldn't budge. I'm not the best at negotiating either. Did the exchanged and she walked out and the moment she returned the little blue number she had on hit the floor. Amazing! She must have been early 40 but damn did she rock a 21 yr old bod. Firm B's and a slim perky ass. She kneeled down to the floor and slide on the jacket. Being a grower and not a shower I immediately raised to the occasion. I laid back on the table and she climbed on with me. Didn't take long for me to finish since its been awhile. Got to touch all of the goods while she worked and when everything was over she cleaned me up gently with a warm towel. Nice girl, I can't wait to see her again!

Thanks for all the info and stay safe gents.

Sky outLately all the girls have hit the $. For a CBJ or a plastic BJ. I can go to ANFU and get BJ and FS for $.2 any day of the week or at the massage parlor on Glendale just east of 51 ave on the south side of the road.

I still get a good plastic BJ at 99th and Bell on S / E corner behind Coco's for .8.

Have fun and be safe. If some of the newer guys were not running up the prices we still could get the. 8 BJ. Hey this is summer time and these places in Sun City and Scottsdale are all crying no business. Use this to our advantage.

BonAppetit
07-20-13, 17:38
Just saw this lady's ad:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/thp/3947228482.html

I had a dream about her a while back. That's an old pic because she's overweight now. I believe it was $. She does outcall only, gives a decent Thai massage, asked if I wanted any extras, but I declined. Just too disappointed in the difference in the pic.

Ralf511
07-23-13, 16:12
Any one have the 411 on this place? It is advertised on rubmap, but I can't find out if there are really extras on the menu.

Thanks for any help.

MinoTaurus
07-23-13, 20:46
Lately all the girls have hit the $. For a CBJ or a plastic BJ. I can go to ANFU and get BJ and FS for $.2 any day of the week or at the massage parlor on Glendale just east of 51 ave on the south side of the road.

I still get a good plastic BJ at 99th and Bell on S / E corner behind Coco's for. 8.

Have fun and be safe. If some of the newer guys were not running up the prices we still could get the. 8 BJ. Hey this is summer time and these places in Sun City and Scottsdale are all crying no business. Use this to our advantage.

Agree on price run up and summer time "slow period". That said, I always hate to haggle. It ruins "the mood" for me (even though my brain knows it they are doing it for money, my dinosaur brain still gets a letdown after haggling. Which more often than not just results in it not being worth it). I'd rather pay 20. 00 more and money be a non-issue. Or even better not even be discussed because you are a regular.

The other angle is, if you want the younger hotties (I. E, still in their 20s) , then you are going to end up having to pay a bit of the premium nowadays. If you are okay with a little older (like 30+) , and are a regular client, you can still get the "good rates" (I. E, like the $.20 FS package). I'm typically a fan of the latter case nowadays.

On another note, nice visit to M10 today. With a repeat visit to Jasmine (hadn't seen her in awhile. I think she just started back for a stint). She is a sweetie, if not the youngest / prettiest. M10 usually is my goto for Asian nowadays when in PHX area.

Happy Mongering

Tojo 5445
07-28-13, 02:00
I went to the place on olive and 51st near the subway a couple weeks ago. It was a Sunday in the afternoon. Walked in and a woman in her late 30s early 40s opened the door for me. I paid. 4 for the half. Got in the room, she left I got naked and laid on the table. She walked in and started the massage. She lingered by my head and I started to brush her legs. After a few minutes she told me to flip. She asked what else I wanted I gave the HJ motion. She hesitated and I grabbed her ass. She then pulled her top down and started. She had a great rack for a woman her age. She gave a good HE. After a bit I popped and she cleaned me up. .4 for the HE. Her name is mimi. She quoted me $.4 for FS.

Tojo 5445
07-28-13, 02:07
I went to the place near frys on 43rd and BH. It was a slow day only one girl working. I was greeted by a short thin girl named rose. She was very attractive. Got in the room and she stood there as I undressed. Usually they leave, it through me off. I laid down on my stomach and she draped a towel over my ass. Never a good sign. I brushed her legs a few times to let her know I wanted more. She started with a typical soft massage. Went under the towel but no real teasing. On the flip the same continued. Finally she alluded to more. I wanted an HE. She made me get up and get money. I gave her. 4 and she pretended like "where's the rest" she might have even said it wasn't enough. I ended up getting 10 more. I hate that I did it, but she had a nice body. She still wanted more but I told her I'd just leave. She agreed. I laid down and pulled her top down. Great be cups. Awesome to such and suck. She gave a decent HE and cleaned me up. She looked great but the attitude was a bit much. I'd hate to see what she thinks FS is worth.

Slacker30
07-28-13, 13:46
I went to the place near frys on 43rd and BH. It was a slow day only one girl working. I was greeted by a short thin girl named rose. She was very attractive. Got in the room and she stood there as I undressed. Usually they leave, it through me off. I laid down on my stomach and she draped a towel over my ass. Never a good sign. I brushed her legs a few times to let her know I wanted more. She started with a typical soft massage. Went under the towel but no real teasing. On the flip the same continued. Finally she alluded to more. I wanted an HE. She made me get up and get money. I gave her. 4 and she pretended like "where's the rest" she might have even said it wasn't enough. I ended up getting 10 more. I hate that I did it, but she had a nice body. She still wanted more but I told her I'd just leave. She agreed. I laid down and pulled her top down. Great be cups. Awesome to such and suck. She gave a decent HE and cleaned me up. She looked great but the attitude was a bit much. I'd hate to see what she thinks FS is worth.In visiting numerous spas I have found that some posters are under the illusion that 40 dollar HJ's. 60-80 dollar BJ's, and 120 dollar FS is par for the course.

In my experience those prices are the EXCEPTION, and not the rule. 200 dollar FS has been the norm for many spas for a long time here, and "some" girls are now quoting 150 instead of 200. There are "some" spas like ANFU, Eden, and AAA that will take 140, maybe 120 at the first 2, depending on the girl. 100 for a BJ in many places is common, and HJ's just depend. I always opt for FS, but prices I have seen for HJ's vary between 60-80. I think 60 is workable in many places.

So figuring that the door fee is 40, 50 in some places, I make sure I have 240-250 to blow before stepping out. If I have less than 200, I know my options are more limited and I will go to a sure thing place where I know a lower price is to be had, but then the available masseuses may not appeal to me.

Some places masseuses may want over 200 for FS at a spa. That is outside my boundaries, however.

As the old saying goes, sometimes you end up losing money trying to save money.

My last encounter where I spent 250 (50 at the door and 200 for the FS) the girls came to the door looking great, nice heels and Bebe type short dresses, nails done, hair done, makeup just right. The one I chose was very friendly, gave me a choice of condoms, she offered up two sexual positions, and LFK. It was worth every dollar.

My last 140 dollar deal was a C- session. I should have saved my money.

Cheap is most of the time not good.

RaceNut
07-29-13, 02:57
Been going to this place for a couple years. Good massages for the money and sometimes a little brushing but never any action. Well that changed last week!

Walked in and got the usual hour and was shown to the room / cubicle. Just has a curtain instead of a door. It was a therapist I had never seen there before. In her broken English she conveyed that I only got an hour massage and that I should get the 90 minute one since she would be rushed if it was only for an hour.

I hadn't ever heard that before when I have been there so kinda blew it off. As I was face down she was getting close to the boys and actually brushed them a couple times. Was shocked since most of the other girls have steered clear of any contact with them. She then asked me to flip and asked if I wanted my chest and stomach rubbed. Thought what the hell why not!

She stood over my head and ran the palm of her hand all the way down the middle of my chest and and stopped just short of grabbing me. Then she took the sheet of and threw it down around my knees! Next she started on my chest and this time ran her hands down each side of the berries and gave me a big smile, then did it a second time. She then pointed at my dick and made a motion for a happy ending and pointed at me. She grabbed the oil and lubed it all up and then motioned me to take care of it myself. She walked over to the curtain and made sure the boss man wasn't coming two or three times and then came back to massage the boys while I stroked myself. She definitely was a little nervous about him peeking in I guess, but she was doing such a good job on the boys I didn't care. She was watching intently and was smiling and giggling as I squirted all over. She helped clean me up and I asked what the tip was and she said whatever I wanted. Left .30 for her in the room (that's where she said to put it). I walked out and paid the boss for my hour. Kind of got a funny look since I didn't tip the girl when I was out the counter and leaving and let them know I left it in the room was thanked and went home happy.

Definitely not nearly as good as getting a HE from her but was a new experience and only cost me a couple extra bucks over my normal tip anyways! Anyone who wants a name PM me and I will share her name.

Dick North
07-30-13, 19:58
Visited Massage Max today."CLOSED".

Next went to M10 and drew "Yudi" (sp). Yudi is definitely in her 20's. Korean from NY. She is attractive but seemed to have an attitude. In the ts she squirted some soap on my boys and told me to clean 'down there'. WTF.

In the room she insisted on having a towel on top of me. Finally I realized that this session was going nowhere, so I hopped off the table and got dressed. Now she is in a bit of a panic pretending to not understand why I was upset.

She finally talked to the ms who is very nice and who convinced me to stay and then sent in Gina.

Gina is a more experienced practitioner who got the job done properly.

60 entry all services covered for an additional $.4.

Not sure about this place. Only my second visit, but pretty weird experience.

DN

Gold coast
07-30-13, 23:19
Life is too short to waste time on a session that is going nowhere. Kudos to you for getting off the table and doing something about it.

Surprised that happened there too.


Finally I realized that this session was going nowhere, so I hopped off the table and got dressed. Now she is in a bit of a panic pretending to not understand why I was upset.

DN

Crutch
07-31-13, 08:32
Visited Massage Max today."CLOSED".

Next went to M10 and drew "Yudi" (sp). Yudi is definitely in her 20's. Korean from NY. She is attractive but seemed to have an attitude. In the ts she squirted some soap on my boys and told me to clean 'down there'. WTF.

In the room she insisted on having a towel on top of me. Finally I realized that this session was going nowhere, so I hopped off the table and got dressed. Now she is in a bit of a panic pretending to not understand why I was upset.

She finally talked to the ms who is very nice and who convinced me to stay and then sent in Gina.

Gina is a more experienced practitioner who got the job done properly.

60 entry all services covered for an additional $.4.

Not sure about this place. Only my second visit, but pretty weird experience.

DNExactly the right thing to do. If things where going nowhere cut your losses immediately. Glad things worked out in the end.

Noblesavage01
07-31-13, 11:51
DN- I have had session with Yudi here before and she was okay. You are right about the attitude though. I am surprised that at M10 you had this experience. I have been a regular for a long time and my experience has been nothing short of very good. +1 on getting up and making known that you are not satisfied. Wait for the next rotation and balance should be restored.


Visited Massage Max today."CLOSED".

Not sure about this place. Only my second visit, but pretty weird experience.

DN

MinoTaurus
07-31-13, 12:12
Visited Massage Max today."CLOSED".

Next went to M10 and drew "Yudi" (sp). Yudi is definitely in her 20's. Korean from NY. She is attractive but seemed to have an attitude. In the ts she squirted some soap on my boys and told me to clean 'down there'. WTF.

In the room she insisted on having a towel on top of me. Finally I realized that this session was going nowhere, so I hopped off the table and got dressed. Now she is in a bit of a panic pretending to not understand why I was upset.

She finally talked to the ms who is very nice and who convinced me to stay and then sent in Gina.

Gina is a more experienced practitioner who got the job done properly.

60 entry all services covered for an additional $.4.

Not sure about this place. Only my second visit, but pretty weird experience.

DN
DN- I have had session with Yudi here before and she was okay. You are right about the attitude though. I am surprised that at M10 you had this experience. I have been a regular for a long time and my experience has been nothing short of very good. +1 on getting up and making known that you are not satisfied. Wait for the next rotation and balance should be restored.It is also plausible that she was just spooked by you for whatever reason (by no fault of yours). If you hadn't been there in awhile, they may not have remembered you and were just being cautious. Maybe she thought you were LEO? In which case. It wasn't really an "attitude" she was giving you, but her just being careful (which I think is understandable / forgivable).

I've had similar type of situation at other places over the years and, personally (but this is "to each his own") , I usually see it through with the provider. If it ends up as just a massage or HE, I just tip accordingly for the service provided. It ruins the mood for me to "complain" and / or ask for another girl. I just don't accept the same girl next time. If it happens repeatedly by other girls at a spa, I simply don't go back to the spa at all.

Bottom-line, I'm never rude (not that you were. Just speaking generally on my approach). It serves no purpose.

Dick North
07-31-13, 20:08
Thanks guys for your comments.

I just have a few additional remarks to make regarding that visit:

First off, I have been mongering for many years and have experienced just about every type of provider. When I approached the window at M10, I was asked if I had been there before. I responded affirmatively. I was shown to the room and told that a very nice girl would join me.

When the session headed south, I started to bail based upon a couple of principles. My visit to an AMP is driven by a physical-emotional need tempered by a financial commitment to a provider whom I expect to render a satisfactory service. If I sense that the service is inadequate then I am done immediately. No way will I be an apologist for a practitioner who has no intention of providing an acceptable service. Why would I lie there for an additional few minutes with a provider with that attitude and even consider an additional tip? Not happening from this monger.

I suspect as I have had similar experiences with the younger hot-looking providers, that they can be problematic and demanding of more $. At least that is my first impression of Yudi.

As I left, the ms was grabbing my boys and encouraging me to return. Nice lady and I just may return because of her great 'marketing' skills.

We can speculate all day about why certain bad experiences occur in the AMPs. For the most part I have been very satisfied with my AMP mongering ventures, I am a nice guy, treat the ladies with respect and have the most fun when my provider and I are enjoying each other's company.

Good luck to you guys.

DN

ps. Noblesavage01 Thanks for your comments. Would love to hear more about your experience with Yudi

Okane
08-01-13, 11:29
This place has gone stupid. What's up with Yudi.

I drew her and had the same experience, nothing.

Never do I allow this to happen, as soon as I got attitude, I bolted. Mamasan was angry at Yudi and I just said,"I have many choices, I will never come back". Fix this.

Anyway, she refunded my money and I was on my way.

Sorry to say, but these experiences do not frustrate me, they make me angry! I let them know I was angry. (Need to learn how to plan my responses better).

No one else was working so I was told, or I would have tried someone else. Sick or something?

Oh well, press forward.

Okane

Dick North
08-01-13, 19:24
You did nothing wrong. You expressed an opinion about the way you see the system working.

No problem with that, we are all entitled to that privilege on this forum.

Take care and keep on mongering.

DN

Slacker30
08-07-13, 19:28
http://www.phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/24/24334470

Went here to see Jessica. Really cute and nice Latina girl. Very sexy. Basic rubdown, but told her to rub hard (she did) and she got my back to crack.

Went for FS for 150. Great CBJ, DATY, FIV, FIB. 69, mish. No rush. Very much enjoyed her session. This is my 2nd visit with her.

I would pay for 45 minutes here for 50 as the mamasan (who is nice) will keep track of time and you may run short with 30 minutes.

For you guys who saw my 4/29 post on Harbor House Massage at 35th Ave and Northern, she was one of the girls in the backpage ad when I commented on the beautiful Latina girls there. She said the mamasan there was hard to deal with, and she quit. Remember I told you in my May post that the Harbor House mamasan was full of shit and crabby when I went there?

For you guys who want a change of pace, she is a nice girl. Call first to make sure she is there before making the trip. She works days till about 5. Friday afternoon she works later and had guys waiting, so I would avoid that time.

Admin2
08-08-13, 03:46
You did nothing wrong. You expressed an opinion about the way you see the system working.

No problem with that, we are all entitled to that privilege on this forum.

Take care and keep on mongering.

DNTo an extent yes, however; there are some topics we don't ever mention no matter the perspective. Anti prostitution people fucking LOVE taking quotes out of context from sites like this.

A2

Bubba1979
08-09-13, 15:47
Way. Down upon the Yellow river. Far far away. Whoa. Wait a minute. That's Swanee river. Not Yellow River.

Nope, the Yellow River is quite different. More like Joseph Conrade's river in Heart of Darkness / Apocalypse now.

Unlike Apocalypse now, there was no "smell of victory in the air" ala Robert Duvall at the Yellow river massage. No. Only defeat. Actually Ol Bubba had much optimism when I walked in, there at the desk was a familiar face from another AMP I have frequented in the past. This was a good sign right? Wrong.

A visible frown came upon her face, and she mumbled something in Chinese to her stable mate when I came in. It was as if she was in the Witness protection program and had been found out. She immediately grumbled that it would be. 45 for 45 minutes and led me to the room. Curtains, no door. Another very bad sign. She lectured me to make sure and drape myself with the pillow case on the table. Their was also signs doubling up on her stern message.

Throughout the massage she kept quizzing me on how I found her and how I was possibly a policeman. The police reference was intriguing considering I had mauled her like an Alaskan Grizzly at our last meeting. Strange. Needless to say, Ol Bubba left deflated and feeling as if I had survived a prison camp interrogation session as I drove away. Perhaps this place has more to offer and it was just me. I will be interested to read any reviews that come on this board.

PartyDiver
08-10-13, 15:15
Way. Down upon the Yellow river. Far far away. Whoa. Wait a minute. That's Swanee river. Not Yellow River.

Nope, the Yellow River is quite different. More like Joseph Conrade's river in Heart of Darkness / Apocalypse now.

Unlike Apocalypse now, there was no "smell of victory in the air" ala Robert Duvall at the Yellow river massage. No. Only defeat. Actually Ol Bubba had much optimism when I walked in, there at the desk was a familiar face from another AMP I have frequented in the past. This was a good sign right? Wrong.

A visible frown came upon her face, and she mumbled something in Chinese to her stable mate when I came in. It was as if she was in the Witness protection program and had been found out. She immediately grumbled that it would be. 45 for 45 minutes and led me to the room. Curtains, no door. Another very bad sign. She lectured me to make sure and drape myself with the pillow case on the table. Their was also signs doubling up on her stern message.

Throughout the massage she kept quizzing me on how I found her and how I was possibly a policeman. The police reference was intriguing considering I had mauled her like an Alaskan Grizzly at our last meeting. Strange. Needless to say, Ol Bubba left deflated and feeling as if I had survived a prison camp interrogation session as I drove away. Perhaps this place has more to offer and it was just me. I will be interested to read any reviews that come on this board.Is there a Golden table shower at the Yellow River?

Luv Nooke2
08-11-13, 16:11
Gents,

I'll be in your city next week and am hoping someone can help me with current info. Yes, I've read the back reports, but girls and other things do change. So, I'm hoping to find some up-to-date info, pretty, pretty please? I'd love to find a good AMP but most of all I want to find a pretty asian girl who is very, very open minded. Could be an apartment or massage parlor or BP advertiser, whatever. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm open to a great latina experience, too! Most important is that she's very, very open minded.

And if you're ever in Chicago, let me know!

Peace out,

Luv Nooke

ps - PM details rather than post here for discretion. Thanks!

DavePHX
08-12-13, 04:09
Throughout the massage she kept quizzing me on how I found her and how I was possibly a policeman.The gals face years in prison like many of the big massage busts so they have to be careful yet how they screen and how they do business is often an easy bust.

Most of recent LE activity to spend all that grant money for the anti-trafficking scam and funding of the rescue industry has to be justified when most all the arrests are in private consenting adults.

Scottsdale just did 4 arrests for escorting without a license (virtually impossible to comply with). They may get back to massage busts again which in most cases is easy but lately again mostly escorts.

The most recent large massage bust resulted in many gals taking felony pleas (now lifelong felons) and owners to prison. One massage owner sadly committed suicide a few days before being sentenced to prison.

This is a risk most guys don't care about but its is real for the massage gals and escorts.

Dick North
08-12-13, 19:52
Well today, in spite of well learned lessons from the past, I decided to visit OK Garden Spa once again. And once again I was treated to a beastly, snorting, wheezing practitioner. What will it take for DN to learn I wondered. Also they want. 7 entry fee. I could hear other girls (women) but never saw them. I left a very small tip and got out of there.

Next stop was the Asian Accupressure place on 101 and Baseline. Nice girl Kristin showed me to the room. No ts. .6 entry and $.4 tip all services covered.

Tiny room, no ts. It just was not a very good experience for the $.

Will not return to either of these establishments.

DN

ps. DavePHX Did you not read Admin2's admonishment of one of my recent posts?

Hamster2012
08-14-13, 10:04
I have been a member of this board for two years. Been reading and adding a few post myself. I went to see Jessica was the worst experience. I'm done with all these bad post everyone suggested or recommend. By far waste of time and money! With Jessica mamasan. 5 at the door and Jessica 120 FS all the above. Looks about a 5-6 chubby, Horrible attitude, rushed within 15 mins even though paid for 45 mins. This was my first time and last by far not worth 120 and. 5 at the door. I would go else where on the west side for latinas. I have been Mongering for past 10 yrs and will continue to do so. These broad post I wanted to see if people actually post good stuff apparently not. I wanted to post locations through the valley I know been to almost all the parlors in the valley. Knowing that unreliable post by members gave me the impression that people post lousy locations. I have been to three and that is my limit. All three locations were bad experience. So I decided not post my favorite locations since can not depend on members worthy sources. I have share few of my own in return. I wanted to express this so everyone who post at least put decent post and stop with this non sense misleading mongers to locations that are garbage to begin with!


http://www.phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/24/24334470

Went here to see Jessica. Really cute and nice Latina girl. Very sexy. Basic rubdown, but told her to rub hard (she did) and she got my back to crack.

Went for FS for 150. Great CBJ, DATY, FIV, FIB. 69, mish. No rush. Very much enjoyed her session. This is my 2nd visit with her.

I would pay for 45 minutes here for 50 as the mamasan (who is nice) will keep track of time and you may run short with 30 minutes.

For you guys who saw my 4/29 post on Harbor House Massage at 35th Ave and Northern, she was one of the girls in the backpage ad when I commented on the beautiful Latina girls there. She said the mamasan there was hard to deal with, and she quit. Remember I told you in my May post that the Harbor House mamasan was full of shit and crabby when I went there?

For you guys who want a change of pace, she is a nice girl. Call first to make sure she is there before making the trip. She works days till about 5. Friday afternoon she works later and had guys waiting, so I would avoid that time.

Reallly Bored
08-14-13, 13:10
First let me prefice myself by stating that I am a variety guy. I rarely see any provider more than twice, as I love the chase, and the thought of new tail. That being said, every subsequent visit with Mya gets better and better. Guys, this girl is a freak. I started very innocent on my stomach, undraped, and she came in and started rubbing a bit of oil on my back and legs. It didn't seem like two minutes before she was giving the boys and my backside all the attention I needed to get to full mast. She pulled my cock back and started sucking it from behind while doing a lot of dirty stuff to my ass. I flipped and it was on like donkey kong. If you haven't seen her, what are you waiting for? She is totally sweet, and a complete freak. She may be my ATF.

Rub423
08-14-13, 20:51
First let me prefice myself by stating that I am a variety guy. I rarely see any provider more than twice, as I love the chase, and the thought of new tail. That being said, every subsequent visit with Mya gets better and better. Guys, this girl is a freak. I started very innocent on my stomach, undraped, and she came in and started rubbing a bit of oil on my back and legs. It didn't seem like two minutes before she was giving the boys and my backside all the attention I needed to get to full mast. She pulled my cock back and started sucking it from behind while doing a lot of dirty stuff to my ass. I flipped and it was on like donkey kong. If you haven't seen her, what are you waiting for? She is totally sweet, and a complete freak. She may be my ATF.Which one is she bro. Any hints of where would be great!

Thanks

Luv Nooke2
08-15-13, 23:53
Does anyone know where Lucy from ANFU is working now? The mamasan told me tonight that she no longer works there. Thanks for any help you can provide!

Luv Nooke

Desert Dog
08-16-13, 01:01
First let me prefice myself by stating that I am a variety guy. I rarely see any provider more than twice, as I love the chase, and the thought of new tail. That being said, every subsequent visit with Mya gets better and better. Guys, this girl is a freak. I started very innocent on my stomach, undraped, and she came in and started rubbing a bit of oil on my back and legs. It didn't seem like two minutes before she was giving the boys and my backside all the attention I needed to get to full mast. She pulled my cock back and started sucking it from behind while doing a lot of dirty stuff to my ass. I flipped and it was on like donkey kong. If you haven't seen her, what are you waiting for? She is totally sweet, and a complete freak. She may be my ATF.I have so wanted to try this chick out for a long ass time one of my trips up to phoenix. But the locale is way the F up in Glendale, no? Probably a good hour from east Tempe?

D DOg

Reallly Bored
08-16-13, 13:07
Make the trip. Call ahead for an appointment That always sets the tone for fun.


I have so wanted to try this chick out for a long ass time one of my trips up to phoenix. But the locale is way the F up in Glendale, no? Probably a good hour from east Tempe?

D DOg

Rxdan
08-16-13, 20:46
I hope this is not an ignorant question, but what is the name of the place that this amazing gal works out of?


First let me prefice myself by stating that I am a variety guy. I rarely see any provider more than twice, as I love the chase, and the thought of new tail. That being said, every subsequent visit with Mya gets better and better. Guys, this girl is a freak. I started very innocent on my stomach, undraped, and she came in and started rubbing a bit of oil on my back and legs. It didn't seem like two minutes before she was giving the boys and my backside all the attention I needed to get to full mast. She pulled my cock back and started sucking it from behind while doing a lot of dirty stuff to my ass. I flipped and it was on like donkey kong. If you haven't seen her, what are you waiting for? She is totally sweet, and a complete freak. She may be my ATF.

Wally3349
08-17-13, 08:11
Rxdan. Info on Mya is readily available. Like many other pooners you are a tad lazy, and want others to do the work for you.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him to fish and he eats forever. Use the search function on here, any other

Sites (like The othEr boaRd) , and Backpage. Pretty simple. Please take this in the spirit intended.

Slacker30
08-17-13, 20:29
I have been a member of this board for two years. Been reading and adding a few post myself. I went to see Jessica was the worst experience. I'm done with all these bad post everyone suggested or recommend. By far waste of time and money! With Jessica mamasan. 5 at the door and Jessica 120 FS all the above. Looks about a 5-6 chubby, Horrible attitude, rushed within 15 mins even though paid for 45 mins. This was my first time and last by far not worth 120 and. 5 at the door. I would go else where on the west side for latinas. I have been Mongering for past 10 yrs and will continue to do so. These broad post I wanted to see if people actually post good stuff apparently not. I wanted to post locations through the valley I know been to almost all the parlors in the valley. Knowing that unreliable post by members gave me the impression that people post lousy locations. I have been to three and that is my limit. All three locations were bad experience. So I decided not post my favorite locations since can not depend on members worthy sources. I have share few of my own in return. I wanted to express this so everyone who post at least put decent post and stop with this non sense misleading mongers to locations that are garbage to begin with!In this business YMMV. If you have been a monger for years, you know that. I mentioned in my first post about Friday PM she was busy and to avoid. We all have different tastes in women. I found her to have a pretty face and liked her body. She had on white shorts, wedge heels, nicely done makeup, and very firm boobs.

I posted that FS was 150, her quoted rate. Did you haggle over the price? Where did 120 come from? That can cause masseuses to hold back. In my post I said to tell her to rub hard. My massage alone lasted over 15 minutes. She was very nice to me. The first session she was rushed, as the customers come to see her, not the mamasan. If another customer comes in or has an appointment you could be rushed, that is why I said avoid late in the day. That happens in many parlors. They don't want another customer to walk out on them, as money is unpredictable in this business. The second time I saw her she gave me her full attention, no interruptions, plus got her digits.

You didn't post any details about your session. I posted about what my session was like. Plus you only have 3 posts. We are somewhat skeptical of new posters coming on here with a chip on their shoulder and not contributing any experiences.

You need to share with us what you did in your sessions like we do. That is what makes this forum work. And again, realize YMMV.

Slacker30
08-17-13, 20:35
I hope this is not an ignorant question, but what is the name of the place that this amazing gal works out of?Hint, hint! Try looking in THIS WEEKS New Times. Report back to us if you found her.

ThomasT1964
08-17-13, 22:05
Went to Bay One the other day. New place in central Phoenix. Place is very similar to M10. Great looking Korean women. Saw Apple. Who is very pretty and petite. My guess is late 20s or early 30s. Was sweet and gave a good session. Definitely worth a visit.

Chilly Willy
08-17-13, 23:33
Yes, Willy had a time-running-in-reverse dream. A week ago I dreamt of a place in Mesa between Power and Sossaman near a hardware store on Main. Definitely not a good-looking attendant there, middle-aged frumpy Asian who just couldn't stop complaining about the heat and about how slow business was. Wondered if this would be a nightmare, but my hodar was tingling something fierce and what the heck, it's only a dream, right? Besides, she had a definite full rack on her ribs. Wouldn't tell me her name. Just said "Good Girl." Anywho, leaving a. 40 tip in plain sight immediately after the TS resulted in a rather active meet & greet, including lots of sloppy FK and enthusiastic response to DATY. This dream ended happily. By the time I woke up, I thought I had a new friend for life.

So I go through the week wondering if I would dream that dream again. Sure enough, I did today, but in today's dream GG was even MORE grumpy than last week. B1tch, b1tch, b1tch about the heat and about slow business. When the time came for some extra loving care, she told me "last time I give you first-time discount. Now more. You leave .40, you only get this", whereupon she acted out shaking a can of spray paint.

First-time discount? Sounds backwards to me. In over 30 years of dreaming, I've always gotten the discounts after I became a repeat dreamer. Willy wonders if this trend of pricing increasing with time was merely a dreamworld reflection of the economic realities of inflation over time, artificially compressed into a week's time, or a Benjamin Button-type of reverse-aging world. Sadly, I can't bear to dream this one again, in case the trend continues. Not a big loss, for sure. And when one dreams, one never knows where one will end up, huh? I'm hoping for better next time I get into that REM type sleep.

CW

Rxdan
08-18-13, 03:29
Hint, hint! Try looking in THIS WEEKS New Times. Report back to us if you found her.I found her and now can fish and eat for the rest of my life. I do know about the search feature. No offense to admin, but it is not that useful sometimes. I typed in Mya and get no results. I typed Glendale and got the narrowed search results. Very strange.

A member prepared this an sent it to me, I've never tested it but it may be of value. On the Forum Toolbar click "Search Thread," then "Advanced Search," then near the bottom select "Show Results As," and choose "Reports." Save this setting by clicking "Go" next to "Save Search Settings."

A2

Luv Nooke2
08-18-13, 09:31
Which would you choose if you needed the best relaxation you could find today, Sunday? The prices are the same so money wouldn't be the issue.

Thanks!

Slacker30
08-18-13, 14:11
Which would you choose if you needed the best relaxation you could find today, Sunday? The prices are the same so money wouldn't be the issue.

Thanks!I probably would go to Anfu first.

Reallly Bored
08-18-13, 20:16
Which would you choose if you needed the best relaxation you could find today, Sunday? The prices are the same so mereoney wouldn't be the issue.

Thanks!What is the one on 51st ave by Sanderson ford? I'v always had fun there.

WhiteSun777
08-19-13, 01:17
Went to Bay One the other day. New place in central Phoenix. Place is very similar to M10. Great looking Korean women. Saw Apple. Who is very pretty and petite. My guess is late 20s or early 30s. Was sweet and gave a good session. Definitely worth a visit.Agreed, Bay One is very similar to M10. Location is discreet which is a plus. Prices are the same with 70 for an hour .50 for 45 minutes, etc. Room is huge with a large massage table. No table shower, at least not yet but stand in shower is available and you can opt for assistance. Apple is the same sweet girl from M10 for those who remembered her. Definitely worth checking it out.

JWoo9
08-20-13, 22:32
I found her and now can fish and eat for the rest of my life. I do know about the search feature. No offense to admin, but it is not that useful sometimes. I typed in Mya and get no results. I typed Glendale and got the narrowed search results. Very strange.

A member prepared this an sent it to me, I've never tested it but it may be of value. On the Forum Toolbar click "Search Thread," then "Advanced Search," then near the bottom select "Show Results As," and choose "Reports." Save this setting by clicking "Go" next to "Save Search Settings."

A2Following those instructions and using "mya" as keyword gave me zero results with both "Search Entire Posts" and "Search Titles Only". Other settings used were "Posts" in "Search Type" and selected "Phoenix, Tempe, Tucson" under "Search in Forum (s)".

Daka1
08-21-13, 04:03
Following those instructions and using "mya" as keyword gave me zero resultsFWIW, it appears that three-word searches do not work.

I suppose that if you wanted people to be able to search your post for a three-word name you could surround it with x's, like this: xMyax. Then someone could search for xMyax. Might be more trouble than it's worth, though.

D

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08-22-13, 01:13
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Shaved Cock
08-22-13, 10:08
I had not heard of Bay One and as a monger having visited well over 50 places in the Valley, I had to have it on my list. It is actually not on Indian School directly, so is dicrete. You have to go behind the building to find it.

Anyhow, I walked in dressed in khakis and golf shirt with logo. A young thai (?) answered the little window. Looked like she was nearly flat chested. I asked for a half hour, went to the door, I could hear some foreign language as she started to twist the door know to let me in. But then she stopped, went back to the window and told me another customer had an appointment and was 10 minutes late and that they normally take appointments. I've never had the brush off like that. My guess is that they didn't recognize me and mistook my golf shirt.

Anyone else have experiences there like that?


Agreed, Bay One is very similar to M10. Location is discreet which is a plus. Prices are the same with 70 for an hour .50 for 45 minutes, etc. Room is huge with a large massage table. No table shower, at least not yet but stand in shower is available and you can opt for assistance. Apple is the same sweet girl from M10 for those who remembered her. Definitely worth checking it out.

Slacker30
08-22-13, 17:41
I had not heard of Bay One and as a monger having visited well over 50 places in the Valley, I had to have it on my list. It is actually not on Indian School directly, so is dicrete. You have to go behind the building to find it.

Anyhow, I walked in dressed in khakis and golf shirt with logo. A young thai (?) answered the little window. Looked like she was nearly flat chested. I asked for a half hour, went to the door, I could hear some foreign language as she started to twist the door know to let me in. But then she stopped, went back to the window and told me another customer had an appointment and was 10 minutes late and that they normally take appointments. I've never had the brush off like that. My guess is that they didn't recognize me and mistook my golf shirt.

Anyone else have experiences there like that?Yes, at USA Spa, and another on 19th ave and Thunderbird. A few others I can't think of now. The one on Thunderbird the girl told me they were closing early (it was 6:15 PM). I drove by an hour later and the open sign was still on. I was wearing a Ralph Lauren T shirt with writing on it. I got negative vibes at every bell I rang that day.

Okane
08-22-13, 20:35
I take daily Cialis 5 mg. I get it up OK, but 5-10 min into it I lose some of it.

Haven't kept a rock hard one for the whole performance in a while.

Not that I don't enjoy the motion and slow good feelings, I just.

Want suggestions of what to add or change for the good old days.

To return.

Many Thanks.

Okane

Luv Nooke2
08-22-13, 23:53
Thanks for all of the help you provided during my stay in Phoenix this week. I had a couple experiences and left with a wonderful memory.

In short, ANFU has two new girls. Jenny is a very petite girl with extensive restrictions. Katie is of average height but quite large breasted. She is a bit more relaxed than Jenny, but not by much. Both are fairly cute.

Bay One was a total hit. A girl could not be sweeter than Apple! By the way, I was also told to come back another time as I had arrived a bit late and missed my appointment time.

ThomasT1964
08-23-13, 01:47
Thanks for all of the help you provided during my stay in Phoenix this week. I had a couple experiences and left with a wonderful memory.

In short, ANFU has two new girls. Jenny is a very petite girl with extensive restrictions. Katie is of average height but quite large breasted. She is a bit more relaxed than Jenny, but not by much. Both are fairly cute.

Bay One was a total hit. A girl could not be sweeter than Apple! By the way, I was also told to come back another time as I had arrived a bit late and missed my appointment time.I remember Katie from last year. I thought she was great. Probably late 20s or early 30s. Very cute with nice natural tits. Great TS and very friendly and fun once she gets to know you better. Just wish her English was slightly better.

GoodOldMonger
08-23-13, 12:23
I had the same problem and now take 10 mg on the day of my session. Bought a generic from a Canadian Pharmacy that works well for 85 bucks for 20 20 mg tablets. I just break them in half. GOM.

I take daily Cialis 5 mg. I get it up OK, but 5-10 min into it I lose some of it.

MrGuapo
08-24-13, 16:04
So I hit up a shop off of kyrene and chandler blvd on the south west corner plaza. I think it's called pacific. I went in for a 30 min visit for 30$ and the massage was decent. But there was no flip. She tells me you have to do the hour massage for the flip. She wasn't a looker LOL had some jacked up teeth! I paid the 30$ and jammed out, didn't leave a tip and she didn't ask for one. I may have to go back and check out the other girl that actually looked good.

MrGuapo
08-24-13, 16:08
There is a little massage place tucked in here, on the south east corner of ray and McClintock. It was 50$ for the hour. I had a thick older Asian lady hook me up with a great massage. No joke the massage was actually really great and I will repeat just for the massage alone. But no happy ending here, that I know of. I tried to get her to help me out but no dice!

MinoTaurus
08-24-13, 17:17
There is a little massage place tucked in here, on the south east corner of ray and McClintock. It was 50$ for the hour. I had a thick older Asian lady hook me up with a great massage. No joke the massage was actually really great and I will repeat just for the massage alone. But no happy ending here, that I know of. I tried to get her to help me out but no dice!Speaking of that area, there is one I saw newly advertised yesterday on backpage. Also on McClintock Road, a couple miles north of Ray Road, at the Elliot Road intersection.

I swung by and it is there sure enough, but didn't appear open yet. Has a banner hanging that said "grand opening soon". Name on sign: "Massage Golden". Tucked back behind the automotive place in the corner. Advertisement looked Asian / AMP.

ThomasT1964
08-24-13, 20:42
There is a little massage place tucked in here, on the south east corner of ray and McClintock. It was 50$ for the hour. I had a thick older Asian lady hook me up with a great massage. No joke the massage was actually really great and I will repeat just for the massage alone. But no happy ending here, that I know of. I tried to get her to help me out but no dice!There is a place near Ray & Kyrene that is pretty good. The massage itself is way above average and the women I have seen are attractive (from China). The first couple times, however, you have to finish yourself (or at least I did). The other downside is that the walls do not go to the ceilings.

ThomasT1964
08-24-13, 21:15
Does anyone know the line-up at M10 now?

Thanks.

MrGuapo
08-25-13, 11:04
Hey use caution if you try this place out. My buddy went yesterday and said he noticed a man on the roof of the bowling alley taking pictures of the cars in the parking lot that is south of the bowling alley, kind of behind the massage place. Just wanted to give a heads up!

Slacker30
08-25-13, 16:18
The Brazilian spa at Southern and Stapley, north side of street $99 all inclusive. I talked to the girl there and she was quite nice, but didn't stay.

How about the spa at 835 E. Southern in Mesa, on the south side of the street.

Another American spa on the south side of the street in the 9100 block I believe of E. Main Street. They have a sign on wheels out front. I walked in to observe. They had several white girls, but didn't stay.

Do many of you prefer Asian girls, or does it matter?

RagsDen
08-25-13, 17:20
Are you referring to this one? http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-us-30-special-g-r-a-n-d-re-o-p-e-n-i-n-g-30/23689623

This is the one in the strip mall. It's what I consider standard fare for American girls. .4 for 30min, then tips start at $ for hand finish. Same fees at the one 8000 block (http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/do-you-think-its-hot-outside-guess-you-havent-been-here-26/23558224). I think you might referring to the one in the 8000 block if you're talking about signs on wheels.


The Brazilian spa at Southern and Stapley, north side of street $99 all inclusive. I talked to the girl there and she was quite nice, but didn't stay.

How about the spa at 835 E. Southern in Mesa, on the south side of the street.

Another American spa on the south side of the street in the 9100 block I believe of E. Main Street. They have a sign on wheels out front. I walked in to observe. They had several white girls, but didn't stay.

Do many of you prefer Asian girls, or does it matter?

MrGuapo
08-26-13, 15:02
Has anyone had luck here? I'm thinking of trying again!

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/always-special-for-you/23841343

MakeEmQuiver
08-26-13, 17:51
Thanks for all of the help you provided during my stay in Phoenix this week. I had a couple experiences and left with a wonderful memory.

In short, ANFU has two new girls. Jenny is a very petite girl with extensive restrictions. Katie is of average height but quite large breasted. She is a bit more relaxed than Jenny, but not by much. Both are fairly cute.

Bay One was a total hit. A girl could not be sweeter than Apple! By the way, I was also told to come back another time as I had arrived a bit late and missed my appointment time.Long time lurker, first time poster here. I figured it is about time I contribute as I receive a lot of good information here.

I visited here over lunch hour today and concur on Ms. Apple. She is a very sweet and tasty snack! All services were provided without complaint and to my liking. What is that saying: "An Apple a day keeps the doctor away"? The new saying should be: "An Apple a day keeps MakeEmShudder okay!".

Will report back on ANFU soon, as I plan a visit this week. I haven't been there in a long time, but my experiences there previously were A-OK.

MakeEmQuiver
08-26-13, 17:54
Has anyone had luck here? I'm thinking of trying again!

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/always-special-for-you/23841343Dang, those look like real pics! I don't recall seeing that very often with AMPs. I know in Hawaii it is not uncommon, but don't recall anywhere else. She looks Chinese, and she looks good to me!

I googled the address and it came back as a NA / AA meeting location. LMAO.

Interesting.

GoodOldMonger
08-26-13, 18:28
I've been to the 835 E. Southern twice. Both times were a good time. Standard rates and choices. GOM.


The Brazilian spa at Southern and Stapley, north side of street $99 all inclusive. I talked to the girl there and she was quite nice, but didn't stay.

How about the spa at 835 E. Southern in Mesa, on the south side of the street.

Another American spa on the south side of the street in the 9100 block I believe of E. Main Street. They have a sign on wheels out front. I walked in to observe. They had several white girls, but didn't stay.

Do many of you prefer Asian girls, or does it matter?

Gold coast
08-27-13, 01:40
Yes, those are real pics. She is Chinese. She is enough of a tease to keep you coming back. I think Bubba was infatuated with her for a while or still is. As for luck, you will probably not get any at the shop from her. But...


Dang, those look like real pics! I don't recall seeing that very often with AMPs. I know in Hawaii it is not uncommon, but don't recall anywhere else. She looks Chinese, and she looks good to me!

I googled the address and it came back as a NA / AA meeting location. LMAO.

Interesting.

Xtr61
08-27-13, 03:18
Hey use caution if you try this place out. My buddy went yesterday and said he noticed a man on the roof of the bowling alley taking pictures of the cars in the parking lot that is south of the bowling alley, kind of behind the massage place. Just wanted to give a heads up!
There is a place near Ray & Kyrene that is pretty good. The massage itself is way above average and the women I have seen are attractive (from China). The first couple times, however, you have to finish yourself (or at least I did). The other downside is that the walls do not go to the ceilings.I did check out this place too a few weeks ago right in the center of the mall on the south side of Ray. Superb massage by a cutie. I tried everything to get her to work on the pole, but she was sticking to her guns and politely refused to wank me. What a tease tho! When leaving I ha to laugh when I noticed a framed magazine article on the wall that said,"No Happy Ending". Well, there you have it. They are trying to stay legit in that mall. Has anyone gotten them to give you a HJ?

MinoTaurus
08-27-13, 08:23
Yes, those are real pics. She is Chinese. She is enough of a tease to keep you coming back. I think Bubba was infatuated with her for a while or still is. As for luck, you will probably not get any at the shop from her. But.

That type is usually fun "for the hunt" actually. Sometimes having to work for it makes it all the better. My experience with a couple other similar middle-aged Chinese women at similar shops like this has been pretty good in this regard, after working my mojo (and my mojo isn't anything special, just being nice) with them for a couple months getting them to "open" up "significantly". It can be mind-blowing when you finally get her to turn that corner.

My only caveat to work a girl pllace like this for a few months "in the hunt" is, I at least have to be getting a good massage out of it in the meantime.

Az Mikey
08-27-13, 10:28
Are you referring to this one?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-us-30-special-g-r-a-n-d-re-o-p-e-n-i-n-g-30/23689623

This is the one in the strip mall. It's what I consider standard fare for American girls. .4 for 30min, then tips start at $ for hand finish. Same fees at the one 8000 block (

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/do-you-think-its-hot-outside-guess-you-havent-been-here-26/23558224

). I think you might referring to the one in the 8000 block if you're talking about signs on wheels.I have been to both. The one in the 80's block is a bit more discreet and the quality was better. Pricing, about the same with each.

Xtr61
08-27-13, 13:32
Ok guys, with all the tips that have been so generously made available on this forum, I need to return the favor. I'll let you in on an A+ discovery that is not on BP or CraigsList, so I thought I would share this little gem with you.

First off, just to calibrate you, my mongering mode is typically to find an ideally good massage combined with a GFE and HE. FS is not really my thing, although I've been offered it many times. I also REALLY dislike the bartering types who want to talk money first and break up the mood. My favorite find is that easy–going cutie that wants to please, knows what I want (want all customers universally want) , and trusts me to leave a good tip. My experience is that those that fit this are typically Asians with the good attitudes. I have not had the best experiences with non-Asians due to lame skills, rushed mentality or just plain greedy. I have tried a few 'independents' on BP with some mixed results. But the AMPs just make it simple when you want to just walk-in without the hassle – challenge is, you just never know what you'll find.

On the corner of Shea / Scottsdale Road, there must be eight or nine AMPs. It is a very high density environment, I think because of the lower rent properties, and lots of DOM (dirty old men) in the area. I've tried most of them out over the years just for the adventure and seeing what I may find. Most will give you the basic HE if they get good vibes from you, but enthusiasm varies.

To my surprise, I found a little pot-o-gold at the place I visited yesterday. This one is on the SE corner of Shea / Scottsdale Road. In a large 'L-shaped' strip mall. It's the one with large MASSAGE sign over the patio cover in the SE corner of that complex. Hard to miss. I had not visited this one prior to yesterday, but as I walk in, I check out the standard layout: front desk with bare furnishings, no staff, and a locked door to the back. Looked promising so far. As I wait to be greeted and see what she looks like – expecting a Chinese or Korean. I'm taken back when out comes this beautiful black woman (Sarah). She's very attractive, large breasts, athletic build, and tight ass. She gives me the prices – I take 45 min for. 50. She waits for me to hand her the cash – another good sign – looking for clues. Asks the standard, 'Have you been here before? ' A question to which the answer is always YES. (That's a tip for you new guys. Always act like you're a regular there).

The room is nice with a very comfortable and clean table. She tells me to undress to my comfort level. I strip down and notice there is no towel to cover up my ass? Only a tiny little wash cloth folded on the table. What the heck is this for, I wonder? Anyway – I just decide to just go for it and lay down with no draping – which was a first for me. So I'm lying there, just a little self-conscious, she comes in, unfazed by me in that state. I got good vibes from her from the beginning and we were hitting it off. Another tip guys, is I try to look your best: well groomed – especially your groin – not clean shaven which is weird for a guy, but looking good down there. Be clean, and smell nice. This will definitely separate you from her typical customers and may get her excited to service you better. This is just been my experience.

She started off with a medium back rub. Good skills, worked on me with some force. Already starts the teasing by brushing her tits on my back and hitting her pussy on the top of my head. Working down she is purposeful to brush my balls on every stoke up my leg. This may sound strange, but I make it a point to tuck my tackle behind when I get on the table so she has full access to the goods! She is good and knows what she's doing. Very sensual, doesn't talk a lot – but the teasing and anticipation is electrifying. She's climbing on top of me, brushing, grinding her pussy – all-in-all, wants to please. No rush – after 35 minutes, she says to turn over. She politely places that tiny towel over my goods – now I see what that was for. As she now works the front, she's rubbing her pussy over my arm! I reach up and massage her back to which she says, 'oh, that's good, I like to be touched too! ' She's begging me to touch her everywhere. Asks me to touch where I need attention, and it's Game On! Now things heat up. I pull her top down, as she's stoking my cock between her huge, firm tits. I pull down her pants to see that shaved snatch and touch it – she moans and starts talking dirty. I mean, really dirty. This is one area that the Asians come short are the nasty talk since they have very limited communication skills.

Anyway, Sarah is working me over, moaning, and saying how much she loves my cock! I'm flattered. She's going for it. And she does love cock! I'm touching her all over, nothing is off limits! I blow all over her yobs as she giggles with delight. Ok, that was awesome. I'm thinking to myself. Then I realize, she didn't ask for a dime for all this GFE service. She just trusted me that I would take care of her. I left her. 70, which seemed appropriate. I have been quoted. 60 for HE and $.0 for topless before (at the Oasis on Elliott Road / I-10) – which seemed high, and too American! Sarah was different. Professional in a way, but very sensual and a true GFE in every way. Totally recommend if you haven't tried a chocolate hottie – she is delightful. She told me she usually doesn't work on Mondays, but I suspect she's usually there mid-day, Tues-Sat. Best of luck!

Slacker30
08-27-13, 17:00
Are you referring to this one?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-us-30-special-g-r-a-n-d-re-o-p-e-n-i-n-g-30/23689623

This is the one in the strip mall. It's what I consider standard fare for American girls. .4 for 30min, then tips start at $ for hand finish. Same fees at the one 8000 block (

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/do-you-think-its-hot-outside-guess-you-havent-been-here-26/23558224

). I think you might referring to the one in the 8000 block if you're talking about signs on wheels.I forgot the hundred block and the name, I went in and out of so many that day. Yes that must be the 8000 block. Was wondering how the sessions are there.

GoodOldMonger
08-28-13, 16:30
After visiting there 4 time in the past with great results, I was worried that something had gone wrong there. The recent reports on this place have not been good at all. I stopped in and asked who was working. Cindy, the Mamasan, said June and Bobbie. I was going to walk if it was Yuri or whatever her name was that caused guys to walk out. Got a nice table shower, massage, and usual finish. 60 for 45 minutes and $1. 2 for a well earned tip. Nice girls there now guys.

GOM

MakeEmQuiver
08-29-13, 12:18
I was seeing the ads plastered all over BP the past few days for this new place in Tempe:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-tempe-golden-spa-asian-beauties-tempe-by-bostons-bar/24668206

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/golden-spa-tempe-grand-opening-asian-beauties-tempe-by-bostons-bar/24664409

I like the location, as it is on my way home from work, so figured I try it. Swung by at about 8:30 last night (Wednesday) but it wasn't open (ad says 9:00 to 10:00)? Has anybody been there yet? Are they actually open yet? The place looks good from outside, with nice privacy for parking and entrance. Pictures look hot as hell too, even though I know they are almost always fakes.

I skipped over to ANFU after that instead and had a blast with Katie (not a total knockout but sweet and willing). The usual damage of $.60 left me quite satisfied.

MLaird23
09-01-13, 21:58
I saw her ad and wondered if any of you guys had an experience that you can share. She's asking for $ for an hour, so if you guys know anything let me know. Thank you.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/liz-full-body-therapeutic-and-sensuous-massage-and-more/22172125

Jdev99
09-03-13, 17:58
http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-stress-relief-massage/23630495

I saw her a couple of times last summer. Really nice girl, quiet. Nice runners legs! After the flip the first time, she saw my condition. She didn't back away, so I sit up.

Face her and pull her closer. Statred ti kiss her gently until she relaxed. The it was full on french, such beautiful lips! HE while kissing, awesome! Cleaned me up and finished the massage.

Next time when she comes in the room, I tell her to take off her clothes, and she does! Awesome again! My hands roam all over as she massages me.

After the flip I pull her closer again. We start kissing rubbing etc. She gets on the table DATY fiv until she comes. BBBJ for me!

The first time I tipped her 40.

Next was 60.

Third time was at a hair salon. Not a lot of privacy. HE 40.

She is real sweet, glad to see she is back in town.

MakeEmQuiver
09-03-13, 18:45
Tried to hit this place last week and it was still under construction. Tried again this afternoon and it is open now:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/golden-spa-tempe-grand-opening-asian-beauties-tempe-by-bostons-bar/24791220

Says Golden Spa on backpage, but sign says Massage Golden on front of building. Regardless: Two BIG thumbs up on the ladies there. A real doll named Soony (or Sunny?) took care of me today. Can't recommend enough with all menu items available and smoking body. One of the better times I've had in recent memory.

The place looks like a brand new luxury spa, no expense spared, but with Korean AMP "service". There are at least two (maybe three) girls working there as I saw another drop dead babe as I was leaving.

Door fee was .60 and $.40 tip with no debate needed.

Enjoy.

Maeeffoc
09-04-13, 05:32
Hi Phoenix mongers,

I'm just a noob about MP and try to know this before I actually go there.

Pretty much every abbrs I could find at urbanDic but not the price.

What does $. X mean? Is that just fifty bucks if its $.5?

Cheers

MinoTaurus
09-04-13, 12:49
Hi Phoenix mongers,

I'm just a noob about MP and try to know this before I actually go there.

Pretty much every abbrs I could find at urbanDic but not the price.

What does $. X mean? Is that just fifty bucks if its $.5?

CheersLink at the top of the page that says "Abbreviations". Takes you to this page and has the information you are asking about:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations

Kingotis
09-05-13, 16:42
Gentlemen, I am seeking assistance locating a reasonably reliable FS AMP anywhere in the PHX / Scottsdale / Tempe area for an upcoming visit. Prior forays into the area have been disappointing, would love to have a reliable place. Responses by PM welcome. Happy to reciprocate with NYC area info for anyone with traveling boots.

PartyDiver
09-05-13, 20:25
http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-stress-relief-massage/23630495

I saw her a couple of times last summer. Really nice girl, quiet. Nice runners legs! After the flip the first time, she saw my condition. She didn't back away, so I sit up.

Face her and pull her closer. Statred ti kiss her gently until she relaxed. The it was full on french, such beautiful lips! HE while kissing, awesome! Cleaned me up and finished the massage.

Next time when she comes in the room, I tell her to take off her clothes, and she does! Awesome again! My hands roam all over as she massages me.

After the flip I pull her closer again. We start kissing rubbing etc. She gets on the table DATY fiv until she comes. BBBJ for me!

The first time I tipped her 40.

Next was 60.

Third time was at a hair salon. Not a lot of privacy. HE 40.

She is real sweet, glad to see she is back in town.Is it just me, or does it look like she has a 5 o'clock shadow going?

Slacker30
09-07-13, 01:46
Being a man of color, racism is part of life. But what happened to me today is uncalled for.

This place is next to the old Blue Water Spa on Northern 1 block west of I-17, across from K-Mart. A provider I have seen in the past told me she knew some girls at this new place, so I thought I would check it out.

The fat dyke looking woman who is the receptionist asked me if I had an appointment, I said no and she said she had 2 girls. I asked to see them and she said I could once I paid. I don't work that way. She said she would ask the girls if they would come out. She then came back out and said no, we don't do that here.

As I was walking out, I told her I don't get massages unless I see the girls first. She then walked away and said loudly "Fuck you nigger". I told her to fuck herself and walked out.

I have experienced subtle prejudice all my life, but for the life of me, I do not understand why these girls don't understand that customers choose to have a session based on the visual perception of the masseuse they are considering seeing. I had 200 dollars in my pocket.

I wasn't about to risk causing a scene there and getting the police called, but if this had happened in any other type of business, they would have had to deal with me and I would have gotten in her face.

Why do some of these women object to the line up? It makes no sense.

I am about ready to chill on these places for awhile. Unless you stick to the same providers who know you, you risk bad attitudes, and risk losing your money to providers who just aren't into you and really don't want to do this business. Even if you stick to a regular provider, sometimes they just aren't feeling you at the same level of intensity every visit.

Most of the masseuses have a sloppy appearance when coming to the window. They just don't care. It used to be different some years back. I just want a little variety from time to time. It's getting to be not worth it.

Tooncinator
09-08-13, 00:02
Slacker,

Thanks for the heads-up. I've been considering dropping in to try that place out. A-holes like that sure as hell aren't going to get any of my business. Secondly, it's good to know that there are still some mature adults in the world.

Regards,

Tooncinator

Cumpumper69
09-09-13, 05:49
Sorry about your dreadful experience, Slacker. I also must see the girl first-just can't imagine being with someone sight unseen.

Screw that place!


Being a man of color, racism is part of life. But what happened to me today is uncalled for.

This place is next to the old Blue Water Spa on Northern 1 block west of I-17, across from K-Mart. A provider I have seen in the past told me she knew some girls at this new place, so I thought I would check it out.

The fat dyke looking woman who is the receptionist asked me if I had an appointment, I said no and she said she had 2 girls. I asked to see them and she said I could once I paid. I don't work that way. She said she would ask the girls if they would come out. She then came back out and said no, we don't do that here.

As I was walking out, I told her I don't get massages unless I see the girls first. She then walked away and said loudly "Fuck you nigger". I told her to fuck herself and walked out.

I have experienced subtle prejudice all my life, but for the life of me, I do not understand why these girls don't understand that customers choose to have a session based on the visual perception of the masseuse they are considering seeing. I had 200 dollars in my pocket.

I wasn't about to risk causing a scene there and getting the police called, but if this had happened in any other type of business, they would have had to deal with me and I would have gotten in her face.

Why do some of these women object to the line up? It makes no sense.

I am about ready to chill on these places for awhile. Unless you stick to the same providers who know you, you risk bad attitudes, and risk losing your money to providers who just aren't into you and really don't want to do this business. Even if you stick to a regular provider, sometimes they just aren't feeling you at the same level of intensity every visit.

Most of the masseuses have a sloppy appearance when coming to the window. They just don't care. It used to be different some years back. I just want a little variety from time to time. It's getting to be not worth it.

Noblesavage01
09-09-13, 16:01
Kudos to you on taking the higher ground.

Just because we indulge, should not warrant behavior like this, in this day and age. It should not be any part of life.

All of us can only boycott the place to get the message across.
-NS

AmanteDeLatina
09-10-13, 00:51
Being a man of color, racism is part of life. But what happened to me today is uncalled for.

This place is next to the old Blue Water Spa on Northern 1 block west of I-17, across from K-Mart. A provider I have seen in the past told me she knew some girls at this new place, so I thought I would check it out.

The fat dyke looking woman who is the receptionist asked me if I had an appointment, I said no and she said she had 2 girls. I asked to see them and she said I could once I paid. I don't work that way. She said she would ask the girls if they would come out. She then came back out and said no, we don't do that here.

As I was walking out, I told her I don't get massages unless I see the girls first. She then walked away and said loudly "Fuck you nigger". I told her to fuck herself and walked out.

I have experienced subtle prejudice all my life, but for the life of me, I do not understand why these girls don't understand that customers choose to have a session based on the visual perception of the masseuse they are considering seeing. I had 200 dollars in my pocket.

I wasn't about to risk causing a scene there and getting the police called, but if this had happened in any other type of business, they would have had to deal with me and I would have gotten in her face.

Why do some of these women object to the line up? It makes no sense.

I am about ready to chill on these places for awhile. Unless you stick to the same providers who know you, you risk bad attitudes, and risk losing your money to providers who just aren't into you and really don't want to do this business. Even if you stick to a regular provider, sometimes they just aren't feeling you at the same level of intensity every visit.

Most of the masseuses have a sloppy appearance when coming to the window. They just don't care. It used to be different some years back. I just want a little variety from time to time. It's getting to be not worth it.I grew up Jewish so I experienced a lot of hate in my life too. I can not begin to count the number of times that I have been called a kyke during my lifetime. I now consider myself agnostic but I still can relate to racial slurs. I agree that is not cool and I think we should all avoid the place.

It is however the practice of most massage parlors to not show the girls or even if they do they will not give you the one they want. They usually take turns all day long. The only massage parlor I know of that does not do that is Aztec in Scottsdale as I am usually able to see Terri whenever I want. I think it is because if they did not do that some of the girls would not get any business and also it allows the girls to have a break.

DavePHX
09-10-13, 03:14
It is however the practice of most massage parlors to not show the girls or even if they do they will not give you the one they want. They usually take turns all day long. The only massage parlor I know of that does not do that is Aztec in Scottsdale as I am usually able to see Terri whenever I want. I think it is because if they did not do that some of the girls would not get any business and also it allows the girls to have a break.This reminds me of the old days when I went to so many parlors (pre 2009) and took pot luck but rarely had a good experience. That is why now I only go to (the few times I have) to gals that have been reviewed and seem my type both for intimacy and looks. But I am not much into Asian and in No Phx which limits choices without a long drive.

Even in Canada with all the great nude-reverse-release with no tipping crap or legal issues almost always went with carefully selected. Exception was one late night place almost all Eastern European and never had a bad walk in experience. I usually stop there from the airport first and may repeat a few times on a 7-10 day trip. Most parlors have great pictures of all the gals and their schedules posted. If only we could do this in the U.S. it is such a more positive environment when consenting adults have sexual freedoms we lack in the U.S.

It is so much harder in Phoenix and from my decade ago experience cured me of just walking in vs appointment with specific gal.

Slacker30
09-10-13, 22:12
I hear you about the rotation. But in most places they don't have a gatekeeper. One of the acutal masseuses comes to the window / door. So at least you can see one of the two people working. That is why I think the Blue Water people just moved next door and changed the name. I think this woman was gatekeeper there, as that is how they worked.

Klarity
09-11-13, 19:23
Following those instructions and using "mya" as keyword gave me zero results with both "Search Entire Posts" and "Search Titles Only". Other settings used were "Posts" in "Search Type" and selected "Phoenix, Tempe, Tucson" under "Search in Forum (s)".Could someone be so kind as to just post the links to the SERPs? Or maybe her ad? This doesn't mean I don't know how to fish, but I'm in a phone and can't even get to the search page due to mobile browser rendering issues (I'm guessing anyway). Thanks in advance.

Slacker30
09-12-13, 12:51
Could someone be so kind as to just post the links to the SERPs? Or maybe her ad? This doesn't mean I don't know how to fish, but I'm in a phone and can't even get to the search page due to mobile browser rendering issues (I'm guessing anyway). Thanks in advance.You don't even need to do that. Just grab a New Times or Quest magazine at the strip club and you'll see her ad at USA Spa.

Jw No Phx
09-12-13, 17:05
You don't even need to do that. Just grab a New Times or Quest magazine at the strip club and you'll see her ad at USA Spa.She also has ads up on Backpage in the body rubs section. There you can do a 3-character search for Mya and see them.

Jw

BonAppetit
09-13-13, 02:17
Is this her?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/myas-seductive-touch-ooh-la-la-that-will-have-you-coming-back-for-more-sweet-thickness-35/9781474

Slacker30
09-13-13, 14:26
Is this her?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/myas-seductive-touch-ooh-la-la-that-will-have-you-coming-back-for-more-sweet-thickness-35/9781474YES it is her

NorthScotts2
09-14-13, 15:25
It's been a while since I visited Chiang Mai Massage and every time I call, the girl I saw before isn't there. Anyone else try Chiang Mai massage on 51st ave and Northern? I'd like to go back but not sure what kind of luck I'd have with the other therapists there. PM is fine! Thanks in advance.

DerpeeDerp
09-14-13, 23:56
I'm new to this scene and I found a massage place around the corner that I'm fairly certain is an AMP (it's called Princess Spa) but how do I find out what they offer and what the rules and rates are before paying?

Bubba1979
09-15-13, 14:46
Wow. Ol Bubba spotted this one and my Antler detector started chirping relentlessly. Interesting set of pics with the kids furniture in the back. Weird. Anyone had any luck?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lisa-welcome-walkins-your-dream-massage-therapist/24924777

RagsDen
09-15-13, 16:36
Kids furniture? Haha, didn't even notice it the first time. Too far for me, so I won't try her.

Based on this ad in the bodyrubs section, sounds like a regular AMP. http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lisa-welcome-walkins-your-dream-massage-therapist-29/25022233


Wow. Ol Bubba spotted this one and my Antler detector started chirping relentlessly. Interesting set of pics with the kids furniture in the back. Weird. Anyone had any luck?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lisa-welcome-walkins-your-dream-massage-therapist/24924777

Humpie
09-16-13, 01:48
It's been a while since I visited Chiang Mai Massage and every time I call, the girl I saw before isn't there. Anyone else try Chiang Mai massage on 51st ave and Northern? I'd like to go back but not sure what kind of luck I'd have with the other therapists there. PM is fine! Thanks in advance.Walked in about 2 months ago and walked right out because a really rude and older woman answered the window. 2 months is a long time in AMP time but that's all I've got for info, sorry.

Humpie
09-16-13, 01:52
Wow. Ol Bubba spotted this one and my Antler detector started chirping relentlessly. Interesting set of pics with the kids furniture in the back. Weird. Anyone had any luck?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lisa-welcome-walkins-your-dream-massage-therapist/24924777Isn't this the place next to the gun shop on the SE corner of 51st ave and Olive? If so I went once months ago after some good reports here. Didn't see Lisa but did have an enjoyable massage.

NorthScotts2
09-16-13, 02:44
Walked in about 2 months ago and walked right out because a really rude and older woman answered the window. 2 months is a long time in AMP time but that's all I've got for info, sorry.Thanks and good for you for walking out.

I wonder if that was the manager. Not sure if she works with clients or not but rudeness certainly doesn't help in any kind of business, especially the service industry. Ill be sure to stay away if I try again and run into her.

Noblesavage01
09-17-13, 00:48
After couple of sessions with Apple at bay one, had the urge to check out something different. Headed over to sun city by coggin's. Had been awhile since I stepped into that place, Suite B was the aim this time.

The place is done up real nice, was greeted by Aria. I have to admit she is a stunning to look at IMHO. Was shown the room, very tastefully done. Got comfortable and plopped bare assed on the table. Aria walks in and starts a decent back rub, with attention to some of the knots I had in my shoulder, she then moves over to the legs and then the flip. She asks me who I had seen earlier, I respond. Honestly don't remember. She works my shoulders and legs on the flip, and asks if she has missed any and I point out to my knotty issue. She gets right to it after loosing her top. She is all natural and Oh so suckable, kissable at this point I am ready to give over my pin to my checking account. But sanity prevailed as her rates are astronomical as she doesn't do FS, LFK, DFK, CBJ. I decided to cut my losses and play with her knock out knockers as I get a HJ, which was okay. But overall she made it up with attitude and looks. Won't go back again but the image of her straddling me is burnt into my brain.

-NS

Gold coast
09-17-13, 08:56
I think this one was in east valley for a few weeks a while ago. Been looking for her because of some good memories.

Guess I owe Ol Bubba a cold one for the find.


Wow. Ol Bubba spotted this one and my Antler detector started chirping relentlessly. Interesting set of pics with the kids furniture in the back. Weird. Anyone had any luck?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/lisa-welcome-walkins-your-dream-massage-therapist/24924777

FloatMyBoat
09-17-13, 13:45
After couple of sessions with Apple at bay one, had the urge to check out something different. Headed over to sun city by coggin's. Had been awhile since I stepped into that place, Suite B was the aim this time.

The place is done up real nice, was greeted by Aria. I have to admit she is a stunning to look at IMHO. Was shown the room, very tastefully done. Got comfortable and plopped bare assed on the table. Aria walks in and starts a decent back rub, with attention to some of the knots I had in my shoulder, she then moves over to the legs and then the flip. She asks me who I had seen earlier, I respond. Honestly don't remember. She works my shoulders and legs on the flip, and asks if she has missed any and I point out to my knotty issue. She gets right to it after loosing her top. She is all natural and Oh so suckable, kissable at this point I am ready to give over my pin to my checking account. But sanity prevailed as her rates are astronomical as she doesn't do FS, LFK, DFK, CBJ. I decided to cut my losses and play with her knock out knockers as I get a HJ, which was okay. But overall she made it up with attitude and looks. Won't go back again but the image of her straddling me is burnt into my brain.

-NSYou just have to hit the right shops in Sun City. I think the one you went to is just south of Bell and is American or European girls. Tried it twice always bad luck. All of the Asian shops in Sun City are excellent. Biggest problem is only one girl most of the time. The one at 99 and Greenway has sometimes 3 girls, one white, one Asian and one Mexican.

If you go to 103 and t-bird only one girl there is FS and is a good looker. She finished yesterday. Her name was Lola.

Daddio1542
09-18-13, 13:37
Couldn't do a lot of homework on this place (Geisha Spa) since I was out and about and this site doesn't have a mobile option. Walked in and was greeted by Monica behind the window. She is a 20-25 year brunette white or light skinned hispanic. I liked what I saw. I paid her. 4 for the 30 minute rubdown. Went to the room and everything proceeded as it normally does in these establishments. She actually has some legitimate massage skills so I enjoyed that for the first 10-15 minutes. Let her see my alterior motives while she was near my head by massaging her legs an buttocks under her shorts. After the flip we agreed to a simple nude hand release for $. That's quite a bit I know but not outrageous considering her youth, great looks and body plus I figured I could get a few add-ons while she was in the moment.

She began, and right away I asked if she would sit on my face. She replied that was not an option since it was her time of the month. She said I could massage her whole body though, just to avoid touching her in that place. I did just that an carressed her nice smooth ass as well as played with her hard nipples. They were very responsive. Her butt crack could use a trimming and I accidently got too close to her sweet spot and felt the string. Not her fault, she told me ahead of time.

I asked her if we could make out and she replied that she doesn't kiss on the lips, but then began kissing all over my body and face / neck area. She nibbled my ears and playfully bit my neck and ears while she purred like a kitten. It was incredibly hot and this was enough to get me to finish. It was right on time too as 30 minutes was up. I will repeat, for sure.

Looks:8 She looked pretty good in the day light when I saw her in the lobby. After we finished I was looking at her in the soft light of the room and she looked a lot like Mila Kunis! NO SHIT! I asked her if she's heard that and she said she does get it from guys in bars alot.

Body:8 She is not especially toned, but there is no fat on her either. Small B-cups with pencil eraser nips that are very responsive. Never got to see the pussy up close. She didn't mind me massaging her crack. Her ass is nice and round, unlike a lot of the asian / k-girls.

Attitude:9 Very sweet girl who let me know the boundaries in a pleasant manner. A pleasure to be around and have a conversation with if that's your thing.

Value:7 $.4 total damage. She's worth it in my opinion. I never requested rates or availability of CBJ / bbj / FS. I'm pretty sure they are available


phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-all-updated-must-try-latina-and-asian-and-white-23/14798087

The images in the ad, of course are not actual pictures of the girls here

Night Flh
09-18-13, 15:40
Couldn't do a lot of homework on this place (Geisha Spa) since I was out and about and this site doesn't have a mobile option. Walked in and was greeted by Monica behind the window. She is a 20-25 year brunette white or light skinned hispanic. I liked what I saw. I paid her. 4 for the 30 minute rubdown. Went to the room and everything proceeded as it normally does in these establishments. She actually has some legitimate massage skills so I enjoyed that for the first 10-15 minutes. Let her see my alterior motives while she was near my head by massaging her legs an buttocks under her shorts. After the flip we agreed to a simple nude hand release for $. That's quite a bit I know but not outrageous considering her youth, great looks and body plus I figured I could get a few add-ons while she was in the moment.

She began, and right away I asked if she would sit on my face. She replied that was not an option since it was her time of the month. She said I could massage her whole body though, just to avoid touching her in that place. I did just that an carressed her nice smooth ass as well as played with her hard nipples. They were very responsive. Her butt crack could use a trimming and I accidently got too close to her sweet spot and felt the string. Not her fault, she told me ahead of time.

I asked her if we could make out and she replied that she doesn't kiss on the lips, but then began kissing all over my body and face / neck area. She nibbled my ears and playfully bit my neck and ears while she purred like a kitten. It was incredibly hot and this was enough to get me to finish. It was right on time too as 30 minutes was up. I will repeat, for sure.

Looks:8 She looked pretty good in the day light when I saw her in the lobby. After we finished I was looking at her in the soft light of the room and she looked a lot like Mila Kunis! NO SHIT! I asked her if she's heard that and she said she does get it from guys in bars alot.

Body:8 She is not especially toned, but there is no fat on her either. Small B-cups with pencil eraser nips that are very responsive. Never got to see the pussy up close. She didn't mind me massaging her crack. Her ass is nice and round, unlike a lot of the asian / k-girls.

Attitude:9 Very sweet girl who let me know the boundaries in a pleasant manner. A pleasure to be around and have a conversation with if that's your thing.

Value:7 $.4 total damage. She's worth it in my opinion. I never requested rates or availability of CBJ / bbj / FS. I'm pretty sure they are available.

Phoenix. Backpage. Com / BodyRubs / new-all-updated-must-try-latina-and-asian-and-white-23/14798087.

The images in the ad, of course are not actual pictures of the girls hereJust to let you guys know, not a bad place there are a few girls that I would recommend Cici Asian American she work once in a while she love what she does, the best Tia I think she half black she loves what she does, Janet or Jenny can't remember white blonde she will work hard to make sure satisfied but she is ok. There is another white girl I wish a can remember her name she tries hard but does not have the nack, she is not into it. All and all a good place to get service. Not one of these girls mention a tip to me but I do tip well. They treat me good there. Oh by they way Tia went back to CA. Have fun.

Night Flh
09-18-13, 15:48
Couldn't do a lot of homework on this place (Geisha Spa) since I was out and about and this site doesn't have a mobile option. Walked in and was greeted by Monica behind the window. She is a 20-25 year brunette white or light skinned hispanic. I liked what I saw. I paid her. 4 for the 30 minute rubdown. Went to the room and everything proceeded as it normally does in these establishments. She actually has some legitimate massage skills so I enjoyed that for the first 10-15 minutes. Let her see my alterior motives while she was near my head by massaging her legs an buttocks under her shorts. After the flip we agreed to a simple nude hand release for $. That's quite a bit I know but not outrageous considering her youth, great looks and body plus I figured I could get a few add-ons while she was in the moment.

She began, and right away I asked if she would sit on my face. She replied that was not an option since it was her time of the month. She said I could massage her whole body though, just to avoid touching her in that place. I did just that an carressed her nice smooth ass as well as played with her hard nipples. They were very responsive. Her butt crack could use a trimming and I accidently got too close to her sweet spot and felt the string. Not her fault, she told me ahead of time.

I asked her if we could make out and she replied that she doesn't kiss on the lips, but then began kissing all over my body and face / neck area. She nibbled my ears and playfully bit my neck and ears while she purred like a kitten. It was incredibly hot and this was enough to get me to finish. It was right on time too as 30 minutes was up. I will repeat, for sure.

Looks:8 She looked pretty good in the day light when I saw her in the lobby. After we finished I was looking at her in the soft light of the room and she looked a lot like Mila Kunis! NO SHIT! I asked her if she's heard that and she said she does get it from guys in bars alot.

Body:8 She is not especially toned, but there is no fat on her either. Small B-cups with pencil eraser nips that are very responsive. Never got to see the pussy up close. She didn't mind me massaging her crack. Her ass is nice and round, unlike a lot of the asian / k-girls.

Attitude:9 Very sweet girl who let me know the boundaries in a pleasant manner. A pleasure to be around and have a conversation with if that's your thing.

Value:7 $.4 total damage. She's worth it in my opinion. I never requested rates or availability of CBJ / bbj / FS. I'm pretty sure they are available.

Phoenix. Backpage. Com / BodyRubs / new-all-updated-must-try-latina-and-asian-and-white-23/14798087.

The images in the ad, of course are not actual pictures of the girls hereJust to let you guys know, not a bad place there are a few girls that I would recommend cici Asian American she work once in a while she love what she does, the best Tia I think she half black she loves what she does, Janet or Jenny can't remember white blonde she will work hard to make sure satisfied but she is ok. There is another white girl I wish a can remember her name she tries hard but does not have the nack, she is not into it. All and all a good place to get service. Not one of these girls mention a tip to me but I do tip well. They treat me good there. Oh by they way Tia went back to CA. Have fun.

PearlZ176
09-18-13, 17:35
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/enjoy-an-erotic-body-rub-or-shower-show-with-a-tanned-curvy-beautiful-busty-blonde-new-pics-36/19022668

She calls herself Farrah. I called her and she seemed to be very polite over the phone. I had some work and I couldn't make it to her place today, planning to go there in a couple of days.

Any reviews in the meantime would be gladly appreciated!

Cheers!

FloatMyBoat
09-19-13, 13:36
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/enjoy-an-erotic-body-rub-or-shower-show-with-a-tanned-curvy-beautiful-busty-blonde-new-pics-36/19022668

She calls herself Farrah. I called her and she seemed to be very polite over the phone. I had some work and I couldn't make it to her place today, planning to go there in a couple of days.

Any reviews in the meantime would be gladly appreciated!

Cheers!From those pic's.

I would save my gas. But on the other hand one of the best BBBJ I ever had was from this kind of girl. Hey when you are looking at the back of their head they all are a 10

Bubba1979
09-20-13, 17:45
'Well I keep on thinking about you, Sister Golden Hair surprise. ' Actually, not Sister Golden Hair, more like Golden Spa surprise.

Yep, Ol Bubba took the plunge at a new Asian place on NW corner of Elliot and McClintock. The 'Golden Spa. '

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/golden-spa-tempe-massage-golden-tempe-by-bostons-bar-and-grille/25087926

First things first, this place is the nicest AMP I've ever been in bar none. Everything was brand new and sparkling clean. It even smelled nice, no 'tell –tale' smell of rice cooking in back. A refreshing change.

After nipping on a few 'Champagne of beers' and casing the parking lot, Ol Bubba sauntered in and began another eventful massage odyssey. I was greeted by an extremely petite and attractive wired haired Asian girl who gave me my time choices. I opted for the 30 minutes for .5 being wary of the first visit.

I was led with both hands to my nicely decorated room and told to get undressed for my table shower. I thought the wired hair girl was my therapist but I was in for a surprise. Seconds later a young and extremely attractive girl with a tight mini skirt and C+ Antlers came in and lead me with two hands to the shower room. She announced her name as 'Sunny'.

She was extremely perky and funny. She kept repeating 'I crazy. I crazy. ' I know Chilly Willy has been known to run around saying the same thing in various East Valley parks, but this was unusual in this setting. But I digress. Anyway, the shower was phenomenal in all respects. Every area of Bubba's body was thoroughly cleaned. She seemed to pay special attention to the 'Exit Hatch' for some reason. Oh well.

Next was back to the room. At this point I'm already way over my 30 minutes just with the shower. A cursory massage was done with her repeating the 'I crazy' thing a few more times and literally kissing my butt over and over making fart like sounds with her mouth. She seemed especially amused by this practice.

Finally the flip. I had left. 4 on the table and motioned to her with the universal tug sign. She glanced at the. 4 and looked like her Aunt had just died. She kept going on and on until I broke down and came up another. 20. This seemed to make her very happy and she completely disrobed. Wow. What a friggin body. Her ass was tighter than a snare drum. The rack was a nice set of bolt on's at least a big C.

What happened next was particularly interesting. She was fumbling around under the table and next thing you know she jumps up with a Playtex like plastic glove on her left hand. At that point she jumps up on the table naked and proceeds to sit on me 'injun' style and start tugging. At the same time the Playtex glove hand is now probing the previously cleaned exit hatch and the whole plan is coming into focus. As she was going about her 2 handed business, she was quoting me prices for our next visit. She mentioned that a full river cruise would be 1. 5. For those of you so inclined. (Dick North)

Eventually everything came together and Ol Bubba was lead out in to the nice lobby. The wired hair girl was there to greet me again and I was offered water or a soft drink. As Boston's bar was right next door, Ol Bubba decided to cap his night with a nice Dewars and Soda.

High praise for Golden Spa, I will be going back for sure.

DavePHX
09-21-13, 07:42
Asian Star Massage Mesa Busted.

3TV 10pm with video or place and women arrested.

Also Arizona Republic 9/20/2013 and 12 News Breaking News Team

Pictures of massage place, the women arrested etc on 10PM news.

Mesa police arrested a woman on Thursday, Sept. 19, on suspicion of using a massage parlor as a house of prostitution and other charges at Asian Star Massage in the 800 block of North Country Club.

Police say that xxxxxxxxx. 53, was acting as manager of the massage parlor and displayed her license along with other business licenses, despite having her manager's license revoked recently. Patton took money from clients and directed them to rooms where services were performed, according to police.

During an inspection at Asian Star, police noted that the required diagram of the building was not displayed and that one employee was not working with a massage license.

Two additional employees and two clients were contacted, according to the court document. While the investigation was taking place, police said that they contacted a client who had been seen at the location and who admitted to receiving both massage services and prostitution services.

When police arrived, xxx went into a room where a client was receiving services and told him he had to leave, directing him out the back door. There, police made contact with him.

Two employees who xxxxxx was supervising also were arrested on charges of prostitution and other massage-therapist violations. One was arrested on suspicion of providing massage services without a license.

Dave notes, if this follows the history of other recent massage busts there may be in addition to the arrest charges a grand jury felony indictment for criminal enterprise (up to 10 years in prison) and probably money laundering additional felonies assuming the police seized the business records etc.

Aoxox
09-22-13, 21:04
After visiting there 4 time in the past with great results, I was worried that something had gone wrong there. The recent reports on this place have not been good at all. I stopped in and asked who was working. Cindy, the Mamasan, said June and Bobbie. I was going to walk if it was Yuri or whatever her name was that caused guys to walk out. Got a nice table shower, massage, and usual finish. 60 for 45 minutes and $1. 2 for a well earned tip. Nice girls there now guys.

GOMWhat does June look like? Last time I was with Bobble. Any new girl recently? Micky was hot but she left.

Aoxox

Finaqua
09-23-13, 20:07
Asian Star Massage Mesa Busted.

3TV 10pm with video or place and women arrested.

Also Arizona Republic 9/20/2013 and 12 News Breaking News Team

Pictures of massage place, the women arrested etc on 10PM news.

Mesa police arrested a woman on Thursday, Sept. 19, on suspicion of using a massage parlor as a house of prostitution and other charges at Asian Star Massage in the 800 block of North Country Club.

Police say that xxxxxxxxx. 53, was acting as manager of the massage parlor and displayed her license along with other business licenses, despite having her manager's license revoked recently. Patton took money from clients and directed them to rooms where services were performed, according to police.

During an inspection at Asian Star, police noted that the required diagram of the building was not displayed and that one employee was not working with a massage license.

Two additional employees and two clients were contacted, according to the court document. While the investigation was taking place, police said that they contacted a client who had been seen at the location and who admitted to receiving both massage services and prostitution services .

When police arrived, xxx went into a room where a client was receiving services and told him he had to leave, directing him out the back door. There, police made contact with him.

Two employees who xxxxxx was supervising also were arrested on charges of prostitution and other massage-therapist violations. One was arrested on suspicion of providing massage services without a license.

Dave notes, if this follows the history of other recent massage busts there may be in addition to the arrest charges a grand jury felony indictment for criminal enterprise (up to 10 years in prison) and probably money laundering additional felonies assuming the police seized the business records etc.Police "contacted" clients. Interesting.

"police said that they contacted a client who had been seen at the location and who admitted to receiving both massage services and prostitution services"

I'm wondering why any client would admit to anything vs. Just saying "nothing happened". How many posts are written here from people who TOFTT and place after place turns out to be legit or does that "skillful teasing" stuff where they never cross the dangerzone. As far as the police know, when they "contact" you, that's exactly what happened. A sensual, yet legit massage. Happens all the time.

I'm guessing, could be wrong, that maybe they come at these "clients" pretty hard with lots of threats, intimidation, etc, where they more or less offer to let them go on their way if they give them something to work with ". Otherwise, we are going to arrest you right now" etc.

Chilly Willy
09-23-13, 22:10
Finally dreamed I visited on old-fashioned AMP in Scottsdale, in the Papago Plaza shopping center at the SW corner of Scottsdale Road & McDowell. Place is really hidden away, in a small courtyard on the north side close to the west end. Door #3 in my dream.

Place was older but clean, sort of a home-like feel to it, and I dreamed I was led to a very large room. Had a jacuzzi tub and a recliner besides the standard massage table in it, as well as a bathroom with toilet, sink, and shower. More like a small apt without kitchen than a massage room. In my dream, the therapist was an average-looking Asian woman, maybe in her mid-30s. I dreamed we started with a TS (down the hall) , complete with careful attention to all nooks and crannies, as well as some hand roaming on my part. Then on to the massage. I asked the therapist her name and, in true dream fashion, she replied. Wait for it. Yes,"Good Girl." But this definitely was not the same "Good Girl" Willy had dreamed about in Mesa last month. This one was a much lighter, smaller, model.

First half of the massage, I dreamed my hand kept wandering off, trying to hide from what little light there was in the room. At one point, it found someplace wet to hide. Instantly, I heard a sound like cash registers ringing up sale after sale. I looked around, but in this dream, the sound was coming from the therapist's mouth. I dreamed there was some discussion back and forth, and agreement was quickly reached but included warnings from the therapist that Willy was acting more like a Beverly Hillbilly want to-be than like Thurston Howell III. The dream ended shortly thereafter, and I left happy but unimpressed. I'm hoping Bubba the Seer and Soothsayer can interpret this dream for me.

CW

DavePHX
09-23-13, 22:48
I'm guessing, could be wrong, that maybe they come at these "clients" pretty hard with lots of threats, intimidation, etc, where they more or less offer to let them go on their way if they give them something to work with ". Otherwise, we are going to arrest you right now" etc.Yep in all the major stings I have read police reports etc on they stake out parking lots, watch people coming and going, run license plates, find a parking ticket so have cause to stop, or maybe he doesn't signal his turn out of the parking lot. That gives them probably cause to stop and maybe search the car and find weed. Or maybe just scare the guy about seeing him coming out of what is obviously a place of prostitution and how serious a hand job is to the public health and morals and scare him into admitting he was at least offered those dangerous sexual acts that result in child abuse and human trafficking. But if he cooperates he will redeem himself and not face any charges or issues. If you afraid of wife or boss finding out of their contribution to human trafficking. All sex workers of course are trafficked and victims that need to be arrested to save them in the eyes of those that know what is best for us.

Finaqua
09-23-13, 23:52
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Noblesavage01
09-24-13, 12:45
Mya is getting busier and busier, she's got a new girl there. A thick Latina. Decide to give her a try. Walk in and was greeted at the window by another girl who is hotter than Melissa (Wish I had got her instead ).

Asked for 30 minutes, and was led to the room. Melissa joined me and started a back rub which lasted a good 10 minutes as she moved towards the legs. A few casual brushes and tickles later came the flip. In my dream she started the familiar wake up Johnson routine, as I asked and the top came off. She has a nice set of knockers, very responsive which I was playing with as the stroking was not working out, asked her for a BJ. She walks out and comes back with as cover, and proceeds to give me a CBJ which was okay, led to completion. Total damage $.

But she cannot turn on the Kink like Mya can. A little disappointing as Mya sets the bar real high.

The rates good but likley won't repeat. Will stick to Mya.

-NS

Reallly Bored
09-24-13, 14:38
Mya is getting busier and busier, she's got a new girl there. A thick Latina. Decide to give her a try. Walk in and was greeted at the window by another girl who is hotter than Melissa (Wish I had got her instead ).

Asked for 30 minutes, and was led to the room. Melissa joined me and started a back rub which lasted a good 10 minutes as she moved towards the legs. A few casual brushes and tickles later came the flip. In my dream she started the familiar wake up Johnson routine, as I asked and the top came off. She has a nice set of knockers, very responsive which I was playing with as the stroking was not working out, asked her for a BJ. She walks out and comes back with as cover, and proceeds to give me a CBJ which was okay, led to completion. Total damage $.

But she cannot turn on the Kink like Mya can. A little disappointing as Mya sets the bar real high.

The rates good but likley won't repeat. Will stick to Mya.

-NSHer last backpage ad said 1. 4 for 30. Mya still 1. 0

Gold coast
09-24-13, 22:47
High praise for Golden Spa, I will be going back for sure.I second everything that Bubba said. After a long stretch of not being able to get laid even if I paid for it, I finally had a good nights rest. Bubba, I owe you another cold one.

Member #5432
09-24-13, 23:38
Finally dreamed I visited on old-fashioned AMP in Scottsdale, in the Papago Plaza shopping center at the SW corner of Scottsdale Road & McDowell. Place is really hidden away, in a small courtyard on the north side close to the west end. Door #3 in my dream.

Place was older but clean, sort of a home-like feel to it, and I dreamed I was led to a very large room. Had a jacuzzi tub and a recliner besides the standard massage table in it, as well as a bathroom with toilet, sink, and shower. More like a small apt without kitchen than a massage room. In my dream, the therapist was an average-looking Asian woman, maybe in her mid-30s. I dreamed we started with a TS (down the hall) , complete with careful attention to all nooks and crannies, as well as some hand roaming on my part. Then on to the massage. I asked the therapist her name and, in true dream fashion, she replied. Wait for it. Yes,"Good Girl." But this definitely was not the same "Good Girl" Willy had dreamed about in Mesa last month. This one was a much lighter, smaller, model.

First half of the massage, I dreamed my hand kept wandering off, trying to hide from what little light there was in the room. At one point, it found someplace wet to hide. Instantly, I heard a sound like cash registers ringing up sale after sale. I looked around, but in this dream, the sound was coming from the therapist's mouth. I dreamed there was some discussion back and forth, and agreement was quickly reached but included warnings from the therapist that Willy was acting more like a Beverly Hillbilly want to-be than like Thurston Howell III. The dream ended shortly thereafter, and I left happy but unimpressed. I'm hoping Bubba the Seer and Soothsayer can interpret this dream for me.

CWI had the exact same dream, minus the TS, yesterday. Maybe you were the guy 'good girl' was working on, making me wait some 15mins, or else the guy going in after I left. I did have to wait a while, at least there was a massage chair in the room to keep me in a dream-like state. Clean, well equipped place. Decent massage with a bit of teasing and allowing the hands to roam. Nice small breasts she allowed me to only play with briefly. Even gave me a card that after my 10th massage get a 1/2 hour free! Told me I could get one after 5 but doubt I'll make it back that often. Decent enough, but nothing overly exciting to spark the imagination.

Chilly Willy
09-25-13, 21:35
I had the exact same dream, minus the TS, yesterday. Maybe you were the guy 'good girl' was working on, making me wait some 15mins, or else the guy going in after I left.No way. I was the guy digging through the cushions on the couch, looking for spare change. I do have a reputation as a cheap SOB to maintain.

ThomasT1964
09-28-13, 00:44
Have been to Golden a couple of times now and it has been great. Saw both Young and Sunny and left very happy. My favorite though is Michelle at M10. Does anyone know if she will be back?

Riffraff26
09-28-13, 10:08
I've seen a few negative comments about M10 lately. Last time I was there June gave me a great session. No complaints from this guy.

Has anyone been to this place? Their ad is pretty suggestive but I don't want to get taken for a tease and send you on your way place.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/exceptional-in-every-waygentlemans-choice-for-pampering-pleasure-avail-friday-11-9/22219006

Noblesavage01
10-01-13, 11:33
No surprises there, yesterday had a session with Gina who was on rotation at M10 before. She mentioned that Cindy, who is on vacation is the manager at golden too. Word on the street, New girl starts at golden, end of this week.


'Well I keep on thinking about you, Sister Golden Hair surprise. ' Actually, not Sister Golden Hair, more like Golden Spa surprise.

Yep, Ol Bubba took the plunge at a new Asian place on NW corner of Elliot and McClintock. The 'Golden Spa. '

Thephnx
10-01-13, 15:04
Golden Spa. I read his review of GS and since I like a tight ass, I went by there and a slim asian gave me a funny look when I asked for Sunny. She seemed a little suspicious so I told her my good ole buddy Bubba told me about her. Still skeptical but led me back to the room and pointed to the towel laying on the table and said get undressed. Sounded a little like "don't mess with me". I had opted for 30 minutes.

I started undressing and in walks Sunny. Short tight mini and great body and big smile. She is originally from South Korea but now lives Colorado and said business wasn't so good up there right now and will be here as long as business is good. She helped with my clothes and led me back to the shower. I had the same, new for me, experience as Bubba with cleaning "everywhere". Back to the massage room and after a few minutes she climbed on the table and gave me a descent back massage, playing with the boys a little. I was over the 30 minutes by this time too when she asked me to turn over. Knowing what Bubba had finalized, I had left. 6 on the table and to my surprise she said it was. 8. I told her that was all I had, which was true for what I brought in. She smiled and said ok this time but next time. 8. She was very sweet about everything and had a great attitude. She was fun, easy to talk to but didn't say she was "crazy". That must have something to do with connecting with Bubba. Anyway, while getting a nice "massage" she continually explored the previously cleaned orifice. I tried to enjoy it but it was a little distracting so I had her stop. Great experience over all, at least 45-50 minutes and will recommend, 'cause I will be back. Will start with. 4 next time though.

I have had such a good time with the AMPs here that I am heading to China to check out the source. If anyone knows where I can find a 9-10, please let me know. My stops are Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. All in 5 days. Just kidding, I will be there for 3 weeks altogether. Lucky me. Good hunting.

TennisPlyr
10-01-13, 18:15
I know this sounds like a silly question but I was wondering how is mya's parlor still operating? With the past crackdowns you think her parlor will be in trouble because her address is listed on her ad in BP.

RagsDen
10-01-13, 19:59
I've seen a few negative comments about M10 lately. Last time I was there June gave me a great session. No complaints from this guy.

Has anyone been to this place? Their ad is pretty suggestive but I don't want to get taken for a tease and send you on your way place.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/exceptional-in-every-waygentlemans-choice-for-pampering-pleasure-avail-friday-11-9/22219006This girls in the link are real, and are hot. I got nothing but a regular massage when they first showed up on the scene. And more recently I've seen at least 3 or 4 reviews on another site with the same. High priced average massages, and nothing more.

Chilly Willy
10-01-13, 22:31
Golden Spa. I read his review of GS and since I like a tight ass, I went by there and a slim asian gave me a funny look when I asked for Sunny. She seemed a little suspicious so I told her my good ole buddy Bubba told me about her.She probably doesn't know him as "Bubba". The guy uses more aliases than Jason Bourne.

CW

LatinaGuy
10-02-13, 03:30
I am coming to a general rule of thumb which says that if you want overpriced, go to Scottsdale. Also, if you want the same, find some new-age-ey / alternative / lifecoaching situation. The first is based on my experience and the second based on pretty much any review I read. These ladies seem to be very near to both. But it's not a mystery why I guess. Not everyone in Scottsdale is looking for a bargain like I and many of you.


This girls in the link are real, and are hot. I got nothing but a regular massage when they first showed up on the scene. And more recently I've seen at least 3 or 4 reviews on another site with the same. High priced average massages, and nothing more.

Kingotis
10-02-13, 14:43
Having used the rather tired metaphor of the desert more than once or twice in my life, it is only fitting that I would eventually end up mongering in an actual desert. Departing the comfort zone of the five boroughs requires a leap of faith from me but duty does occasionally call, when I found myself in Phoenix and its environs I saw no reason to curtail my usual extracurricular activities.

1. This place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-w-free-shower-by-most-beautiful-sexy-asian-therapist-480-990-2622-23/22149199

Phone: (480) 990-2622.

The first place I tried was a little shop tucked away behind a fast food restaurant. It was a bit rundown and mildewed, I was handled by a Chinese MILF whose name escapes me. There was a table shower, which was a plus, house fee was $60 per hour. Her English was decent, I was curious how one winds up toiling in Arizona, she gave me a travelogue with stops in Flushing and San Francisco. Foolishly, when she mentioned Flushing, I revealed that I'm a New Yorker and she astutely tucked that information away for later use.

The massage was mediocre, at the flip she asked $80 for a handjob."You want?" she asked, making the universal sign for "jacking off."

"I want," I said,"for $40." She insisted that no one in Phoenix gets a handy for 40 bucks, unlike New York. I smiled my magnetic smile and she agreed to $60 bucks, topless. The top came off and revealed superb implants, which I handled until she jacked my oily cock into submission.

2. That place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/body-fusionsignature-asian-massage-gorgeous-and-licensed-masseuses-26/24793624

Phone: (480) 945-2330.

"It must get better," I reasoned to myself, and I resolved to try another place soon. And so it was that I found myself at another little dive near Old Town Scottsdale. I was greeted by Rose, a 50-ish Chinese woman who fawned over me like I was made of gold. I paid $60 for the house again, really there are no bargains anymore are there?

A familiar-feeling table shower was followed by Rose's best effort at a strong massage, which was not strong at all. Then some negotiation, perhaps $40 handies are unheard of out here after all, I ended up paying $60 for a nude handjob. Decent boobs, wooly thatch of pubes, jackhammer technique.

After she started asking me when I'd be back, telling me she knew from looking at me that I was a nice man. No, I didn't invite her back to the hotel for room service.

3. My place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-body-rub-you-wont-forget-anytime-soon-29/20466607

Phone: (623) 282-1369.

I changed tactics and decided to order in. I contacted "Taylor," who claims to be a hot 29 year old caucasian doing outcall bodyrubs. After some texting back and forth she came to my hotel room right on time. She was closer to 39 than 29, but was attractive and had a great pair of tits. I paid her $150 and she delivered a passable rub and excellent conversation. The finish was a relatively predictable handjob with roaming, nothing out of the ordinary but Taylor did prove to be a pleasant companion for an hour who delivered professional service.

Next time I find myself in the desert she'll probably be my oasis again. Unless someone has a better idea.

Riffraff26
10-03-13, 00:15
I knew this place was right off the 17 so I decided to hop off on my way to work this morning to take a peek. I didn't even have to get off the access road to see it. BIG neon sign saying "Massage." Not exactly the most private looking place in the world. The girls look hot and I was thinking of sampling. With the location, I am rethinking that decision. Anyone have experience here?

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/rubdowns-by-flawless-body-knockoutgirls-dont-waste-your-time-with-bait-and-switch-9amto-11pm-19/18400609

FloatMyBoat
10-03-13, 12:26
Golden Spa. I read his review of GS and since I like a tight ass, I went by there and a slim asian gave me a funny look when I asked for Sunny. She seemed a little suspicious so I told her my good ole buddy Bubba told me about her. Still skeptical but led me back to the room and pointed to the towel laying on the table and said get undressed. Sounded a little like "don't mess with me". I had opted for 30 minutes.

I started undressing and in walks Sunny. Short tight mini and great body and big smile. She is originally from South Korea but now lives Colorado and said business wasn't so good up there right now and will be here as long as business is good. She helped with my clothes and led me back to the shower. I had the same, new for me, experience as Bubba with cleaning "everywhere". Back to the massage room and after a few minutes she climbed on the table and gave me a descent back massage, playing with the boys a little. I was over the 30 minutes by this time too when she asked me to turn over. Knowing what Bubba had finalized, I had left. 6 on the table and to my surprise she said it was. 8. I told her that was all I had, which was true for what I brought in. She smiled and said ok this time but next time. 8. She was very sweet about everything and had a great attitude. She was fun, easy to talk to but didn't say she was "crazy". That must have something to do with connecting with Bubba. Anyway, while getting a nice "massage" she continually explored the previously cleaned orifice. I tried to enjoy it but it was a little distracting so I had her stop. Great experience over all, at least 45-50 minutes and will recommend, 'cause I will be back. Will start with. 4 next time though.

I have had such a good time with the AMPs here that I am heading to China to check out the source. If anyone knows where I can find a 9-10, please let me know. My stops are Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. All in 5 days. Just kidding, I will be there for 3 weeks altogether. Lucky me. Good hunting.I spend a lot of time in China, Shanghai and Beijing. I have to tell you that in all my years going there I have found the prices higher and the girls not quite as good as here. All of the hotels have girls that come to your room and they will call your room twice each night. Hotel rate is very high and some girls are hit and miss. I have sent a few back and ask for another.

PM me if you want more information.

I did meet one in a bar and made several trips back to see her and lived with her each time. In the bars you never by them a drink. Cost more than FS. Buy a coke, then get to talking business. Usually about $1, 000 RMB or $.75 us. They come to your room and you have the time of your life.

BoredInd
10-04-13, 02:55
http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bam-lets-kick-it-up-a-notch/12004588

Looked her ad up on backpage. Sounded interesting. But was a huge turnoff. She looked like the lady in the pics. The massage by itself was pretty average though. The whole session she was commenting on my Asian background and how she knew more about Yoga and stuff then 'WE' did. Told me that I don't take care of my body. Now I might be a bit over weight but that was definitely not true. Finally. Ended up being just a tease. Massaged the areas around the johny. But told them she is not getting 'Good Vibes off me' and 'I am not getting enough'. Said it was pointless to give me a release. Asked me to start meditating and all that crap. Before I realized what happened. I was like WTF. If I just wanted a massage. I had go for someone like Lisa who is a proper LMT. What a waste of $.2.

DavePHX
10-04-13, 03:52
The massage was mediocre, at the flip she asked $80 for a handjob."You want?" she asked, making the universal sign for "jacking off."

Then some negotiation, perhaps $40 handies are unheard of out here after all, I ended up paying $60 for a nude handjob. Decent boobs, wooly thatch of pubes, jackhammer technique.

I changed tactics and decided to order in. I contacted "Taylor,"Great reviews. Reminds me why I have no interest in all the Asian circuit gal places.

What amazes me is the ignorance they have of the legal issues and how lucky over years with no major federal Mann Act or Trafficking charges. I did note the big group of Asians busted a few weeks ago and another Asian house of prostitution arrest yesterday.

Taylor seems at least a less legal issue depending on what she says on the phone. LE sends in undercovers all the time in Phoenix and sometimes so does Scottsdale and not only do the Asian parlors have huge risk of felonies with 10+ years potentially in prison, when there are other ways of operating far safer (flat fee for time not tThese silly obviously illegal acts for tips so open).

No one seems to follow the ideal model. Flat fee. Never any tip discussion.

Lots of this is my frustration finding anything in Phoenix area like I enjoy so much in Ontario. Zillions of beautiful gals, on websites, honest pictures and descriptions, maybe $140 total cost 50 minutes (often go over) for often better real massage than many LMT's here, full nude body contact, and release is just natural end, no tip, no big deal, no legal issues. Licensed body rub parlors with no training needed but many are really really good at real massage, and of course interactive no big deal.

With our lack of consenting adult freedoms in the USA and major stings in Phx area at least flat fees could be fought in Court and if you don't say the wrong thing in person or on ads you don't have the legal risks. Superior Court is full of cases right now. As well as huge massage busts that finally concluded of 4 major parlors with the gals now life long felons and owners in prison. Except the one that committed suicide just before sentencing.

Now a batch more of massage cases not to mention the Studio, Temple various escorts and massage gals and of course the about every 6 months Project Rose take them to Bethany Home Church and if agree to six month indoctrination on the evils of private consenting adult sexwork led by Catholic Charities avoid the mandatory 15 days in prison if work alone or 10+ years in prison if more than just an independent.

Now pressure is on for new laws to be easier to go after customers before the 2015? Superbowl or whatever the big event is coming up. So far very low risk for customers but amazes me what the massage parlors operate as to make arrests so easy since so obviously paying for sex (hand job or more) specifically. Making arrests easy if LE wants to crack down more.

MinoTaurus
10-04-13, 09:12
. The Asian circuit gal places.

No major federal Mann Act or Trafficking charges.Dave, you constantly "report" on this stuff and make statements like this. You are largely misinformed on this particular topic however. There IS NO "circuit" (as in implying handlers and force moving them around). Do they work at different spas? Yes, sure, sometimes. They do this by choice and because they are essentially independent contractors. The reasons vary, but the most typical and common one is: the spa owner (who is virtually always also a former working girl, not some organized "handler" mechanism) simply has a spot open in her rotation and the timing matches with the desire for the particular girl wanting to work. It is a network (in K AMPs) of working girls and former working girls (spa owners) , exclusively. This notion of trafficking and force and slavery, and all the other "evil" words always thrown around and conflated with all MPs is just plain false. It is simply a puritanical western crusade against a mostly accepted Asian practice of the "oldest profession" in the world. Consenting adults, minding their own business. You, in your claims of being an advocate, don't help ironically (in my opinion) by constantly reporting and repeating these terms and claims. I don't get you and whether you are an "advocate" or really have some hidden agenda against these women that is underneath it all.

There is NO trafficking. There is NO slavery. It is all media and other groups with, perhaps nobel, but nonetheless misinformed notions of what is going on at these places. Caveat: I'm speaking of Korean AMPs. Chinese AMPs, Russian MPs, Latina MPs, maybe different, but not K AMPs. It used to be that AMPs were 99% K, but the Chinese have caught on in past decade (not sure if good or bad).


. massage parlors operate as to make arrests so easy since so obviously paying for sex (hand job or more) specifically. Making arrests easy if LE wants to crack down more.I don't know about you, but I go to a massage parlor for a massage. For those that MIGHT go for more, and are also IDIOTS, your statement might be true. Case in point, the recent Asian Star Massage "bust" in Mesa where the IDIOT customer was pulled over for a "moving violation" after leaving the AMP and incriminated himself FOR NO REASON by "admitting" he received sexual services. For the rest of us (non-idiots) , unless you are literally caught by LE with your dick in her hand, your chances of arrest are next to none. Even if they detain or actually take you in "take you in for questioning " (I. E, in a scare attempt to make you incriminate yourself) the chances of charges are even lower. So, don't be an IDIOT and you'll be fine.

Take my post FWIW, I don't mean to flame you.

FloatMyBoat
10-04-13, 15:13
http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bam-lets-kick-it-up-a-notch/12004588

Looked her ad up on backpage. Sounded interesting. But was a huge turnoff. She looked like the lady in the pics. The massage by itself was pretty average though. The whole session she was commenting on my Asian background and how she knew more about Yoga and stuff then 'WE' did. Told me that I don't take care of my body. Now I might be a bit over weight but that was definitely not true. Finally. Ended up being just a tease. Massaged the areas around the johny. But told them she is not getting 'Good Vibes off me' and 'I am not getting enough'. Said it was pointless to give me a release. Asked me to start meditating and all that crap. Before I realized what happened. I was like WTF. If I just wanted a massage. I had go for someone like Lisa who is a proper LMT. What a waste of $.2.I found you are right. She does look like the pic's, but for me a real turn off. When I didn't cum after maybe 10-15 minutes she said time is up.

DavePHX
10-04-13, 17:59
dave, you constantly "report" on this stuff and make statements like this. you are largely misinformed on this particular topic however. there is no "circuit" (as in implying handlers and force moving them around). do they work at different spas? yes, sure, sometimes. they do this by choice and because they are essentially independent contractors. the reasons vary, but the most typical and common one is: the spa owner (who is virtually always also a former working girl, not some organized "handler" mechanism) simply has a spot open in her rotation and the timing matches with the desire for the particular girl wanting to work.this is exactly what a mann act and trafficking federal charges are for. choice makes no difference for "trafficking" if it is forced then it is "extreme trafficking" vs just trafficking if anyone helps someone drive, arrange for transport is a phone operator that sets up appts etc. all this is trafficking and if consenting adults regular trafficking not extreme. but still serious prison time.

more often massage places are charged as criminal enterprises up to 10 years in prison or decades more when bring intervening indictments after raid place, find the money trail and everyone touching the money is charged often with many counts of money laundering. so in one case prosecutor is saying take a felony plea deal or face 40+ years in prison if convicted (lower level temple gals with no direct evidence of any prostitution just association). similar to the big massage busts cases from a few years ago now settled and now a slew more in superior court (typically takes about 2 years to go to trial and first year nothing much happens). but during the 2 year wait, almost impossible for gals to get any regular jobs since criminal checks show pending charges.

this is a huge money raising sham because people think "trafficking" means forced when it does not. $millions of grants and $millions of donations raised by groups like catholic charities in phoenix (project rose city contract for indoctrination 6 month course to "save from prostitution"). the vast majority busted are from in private consenting adults ads having nothing to do with under aged or forced anything. reviews from mostly the bigboard are routinely mentioned now in police reports and probably cause statements and indictments.

$millions are being wasted going after in private consenting adults whose only "victim" is the state of arizona that montgomery is gun hoe yo prosecute as felonies whenever he can. no police agencies all over the usa are coming to phoenix to learn how to trick a massage or escort to say the wrong thing so can bust them.

i have zillions of examples, in the police reports, gj indictments etc i am trying to follow. the public if they knew how much is wasted would not support it but all the media hype is about children and trafficking when only maybe 5% of arrests have anything to do with ****d and maybe 90% have no pimps, no forced work, just happy consenting adults.

on the other hand there are really bad pimped gals on bp. but le for bonuses based on quotas is reported on how many arrests they can make seem to go after anyone whether a real pimped ****d on bp or happy massage or escorts, by free choice choosing to provide a benefit to our culture via safe, private sexuality options.

in the ongoig temple case about 32 computers from gals sent to crime lab and something like 8tb of info recovered. took 6-12 months to do and while rape kits from real victims went untested the crime lab got all erased data etc from the temple computers. all was tossed!!! the 2nd judge disallowed with wisdom that instead presenting maybe a million pages of data in discovery, just identify what will be used in court and prosecutor agreed to just go with the original 100k+ pages of discovery and not million more after all the work of the crime lab.

temple, studio, many massage parlors busts have absolutely no one ****d and certainly no one forced or coerced. and in temple case almost no evidence of actual prostitution for most of the defendents facing years in prison or lifetime felony pleas for probation.

Jonesy47
10-04-13, 18:35
I've been to a place called Best massage twice and left happy and still some change in pocket. First time I was with and older broad left with HJ finish for. 2 total. Second time I only got 30 min for 40. This time was with a younger good looking Chinese girl with fake boobs. Great tight body, she was wearing tight bicycle shorts. Not a good massage just her running her hands on my back. Now on the flip we talked about home. Negotiated FS for same. 2 total I wasn't about to argue with that. Great little body on her but very tight and kept me from going deep, which I'm decent size. Anyway had a good time. http://m.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-best-massage-spa-mesa-az-4293

I'm not much into AMP as results vary greatly from place to place and time. So I like one on one. Some good talent out there.


Having used the rather tired metaphor of the desert more than once or twice in my life, it is only fitting that I would eventually end up mongering in an actual desert. Departing the comfort zone of the five boroughs requires a leap of faith from me but duty does occasionally call, when I found myself in Phoenix and its environs I saw no reason to curtail my usual extracurricular activities.

1. This place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-w-free-shower-by-most-beautiful-sexy-asian-therapist-480-990-2622-23/22149199

Phone: (480) 990-2622.

The first place I tried was a little shop tucked away behind a fast food restaurant. It was a bit rundown and mildewed, I was handled by a Chinese MILF whose name escapes me. There was a table shower, which was a plus, house fee was $60 per hour. Her English was decent, I was curious how one winds up toiling in Arizona, she gave me a travelogue with stops in Flushing and San Francisco. Foolishly, when she mentioned Flushing, I revealed that I'm a New Yorker and she astutely tucked that information away for later use.

The massage was mediocre, at the flip she asked $80 for a handjob."You want?" she asked, making the universal sign for "jacking off."

"I want," I said,"for $40." She insisted that no one in Phoenix gets a handy for 40 bucks, unlike New York. I smiled my magnetic smile and she agreed to $60 bucks, topless. The top came off and revealed superb implants, which I handled until she jacked my oily cock into submission.

2. That place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/body-fusionsignature-asian-massage-gorgeous-and-licensed-masseuses-26/24793624

Phone: (480) 945-2330.

"It must get better," I reasoned to myself, and I resolved to try another place soon. And so it was that I found myself at another little dive near Old Town Scottsdale. I was greeted by Rose, a 50-ish Chinese woman who fawned over me like I was made of gold. I paid $60 for the house again, really there are no bargains anymore are there?

A familiar-feeling table shower was followed by Rose's best effort at a strong massage, which was not strong at all. Then some negotiation, perhaps $40 handies are unheard of out here after all, I ended up paying $60 for a nude handjob. Decent boobs, wooly thatch of pubes, jackhammer technique.

After she started asking me when I'd be back, telling me she knew from looking at me that I was a nice man. No, I didn't invite her back to the hotel for room service.

3. My place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-body-rub-you-wont-forget-anytime-soon-29/20466607

Phone: (623) 282-1369.

I changed tactics and decided to order in. I contacted "Taylor," who claims to be a hot 29 year old caucasian doing outcall bodyrubs. After some texting back and forth she came to my hotel room right on time. She was closer to 39 than 29, but was attractive and had a great pair of tits. I paid her $150 and she delivered a passable rub and excellent conversation. The finish was a relatively predictable handjob with roaming, nothing out of the ordinary but Taylor did prove to be a pleasant companion for an hour who delivered professional service.

Next time I find myself in the desert she'll probably be my oasis again. Unless someone has a better idea.

Riffraff26
10-04-13, 23:04
So, I'm in the mood (again) for a little Latino persuasion. I've been to AAA-Massage on Glendale around 41st. And another place by old town Glendale off of 59th ave. While dreaming at both places, I constantly felt like when I walked out, either my car would be gone or the window would be smashed in. That would be difficult to explain, if you know what I mean. Any suggestions for places that feel a little less shady?

Dick North
10-06-13, 21:06
Dave. Quixotic? Definitely.

This guy spends his life reviewing police reports and alarming the board. Has he ever been to a massage establishment? I doubt it. But he continues on much like Don Quixote striking down those windmills. So what's the point?

Anyone who has spent anytime in this hobby and time on this board knows pretty much how to behave and what to expect.

In Dave's defense, it is good to have current knowledge of a 'bust', but please Dave knock off the rest of the crap.

DN.


Dave, you constantly "report" on this stuff and make statements like this. You are largely misinformed on this particular topic however. There IS NO "circuit" (as in implying handlers and force moving them around). Do they work at different spas? Yes, sure, sometimes. They do this by choice and because they are essentially independent contractors. The reasons vary, but the most typical and common one is: the spa owner (who is virtually always also a former working girl, not some organized "handler" mechanism) simply has a spot open in her rotation and the timing matches with the desire for the particular girl wanting to work. It is a network (in K AMPs) of working girls and former working girls (spa owners) , exclusively. This notion of trafficking and force and slavery, and all the other "evil" words always thrown around and conflated with all MPs is just plain false. It is simply a puritanical western crusade against a mostly accepted Asian practice of the "oldest profession" in the world. Consenting adults, minding their own business. You, in your claims of being an advocate, don't help ironically (in my opinion) by constantly reporting and repeating these terms and claims. I don't get you and whether you are an "advocate" or really have some hidden agenda against these women that is underneath it all.

There is NO trafficking. There is NO slavery. It is all media and other groups with, perhaps nobel, but nonetheless misinformed notions of what is going on at these places. Caveat: I'm speaking of Korean AMPs. Chinese AMPs, Russian MPs, Latina MPs, maybe different, but not K AMPs. It used to be that AMPs were 99% K, but the Chinese have caught on in past decade (not sure if good or bad).

I don't know about you, but I go to a massage parlor for a massage. For those that MIGHT go for more, and are also IDIOTS, your statement might be true. Case in point, the recent Asian Star Massage "bust" in Mesa where the IDIOT customer was pulled over for a "moving violation" after leaving the AMP and incriminated himself FOR NO REASON by "admitting" he received sexual services. For the rest of us (non-idiots) , unless you are literally caught by LE with your dick in her hand, your chances of arrest are next to none. Even if they detain or actually take you in "take you in for questioning " (I. E, in a scare attempt to make you incriminate yourself) the chances of charges are even lower. So, don't be an IDIOT and you'll be fine.

Take my post FWIW, I don't mean to flame you.

DavePHX
10-06-13, 22:06
this guy spends his life reviewing police reports and alarming the board. has he ever been to a massage establishment? i doubt it. but he continues on much like don quixote striking down those windmills. so what's the point?

anyone who has spent anytime in this hobby and time on this board knows pretty much how to behave and what to expect.

in dave's defense, it is good to have current knowledge of a 'bust', but please dave knock off the rest of the crap.

dn.yes i realize that ignorance in bliss to some especially since guys don't have much risk yet. although those that know what is best for us propose new laws to help arrest more customers.

yes i use to go to basically all the non-asian popular massage places in phoenix for decades. then got spoiled by canada and lately just not my interest with the clearly eeasy to bust tipping for illegal sex and all the asian domination.

the point is for those that want to be knowledgeable maybe have some intelligent intro to the massage gals but not likely. if they would change their mode of operation would not keep seeing all the new arrests, indictments of others (where mug shots never posted just mesa arrests and into the court via indictments). so many gals are totally ignorant and wind up with lifetime felony records. my point is to show how much money wasted on these consenting adult cases under the excuse of pimps and **** and the obviously easy charges for trafficking and mann act if they wanted to of the circuit gals. amazing they have been doing this for a decade and avoided charges but that seems to be changing.

i realize i am preaching to the choir. but wider spread knowledge to me seems useful and some folks want to know what is going on with the phoenix war on in private consenting adult sexwork. from police reports and court records i have leaned exactly how a bust operation works which might be useful. the problem is the zillions of gals not on these boards that have no clue how much legal risk they are at if unluckly enough to be caught in a bust vs ways that could easily avoid the issue or have a much better chance of defense. those is becoming especially clear in all the cantanise women cases now getting ripe with lots of motions etc by good attorney's the 2012 3 massage cases. the more recent cases will take awhile after more arrests made takes awile to get the full info since records sealed after indictments until arrested.

latest two recent arrests were by mesa police for traffic violations and found they massage parlor indictments when ran ncic check after traffic stop and booked into mesa jail at least avoiding mugshots on line since msco didn't handle. now with the rest of the co-defendants facing felonies and still more outstanding with indictments sealed for those not get found. after the raid many more get indicted only due to "association" found in massage parlor records, running plates for months in the parking lot etc.

am not sure what you define as "crap" . i call it trying to help educate and avoid many more folks being felons for life, especially the gals just over a hand release

DavePHX
10-07-13, 06:02
FBI has been involved in massage cases. BTW per Court records most of the gals that spoke only Cantonese appear to be in the USA legally and no force or coercion involved but FBI is.

The chief of the Maricopa County Major Crimes Division wrote a letter to the FBI seeking information on the Federal sex trafficking investigation. No response yet, at least in the public record.

In letter to FBI Country explains how the massage parlors were a prostitution criminal enterprise based on sex offered to undercover officer, an undercover applied for a job and acts of prostitution were discussed and various 'Johns' were questioned and admitted to acts of prostitution.

Again the sham is sex trafficking may imply some sort of pimp or forced but under the Federal trafficking law it applies to fully consenting adults who are simply trying to make a living a choosing massage but are easy bust targets by their tipping discussion for sadly illegal acts like a hand release.

One defendant was earlier ticketed for massage without a license but case disappeared since no translator available. Now of course faced with serious felonies with prison terms and potential $150, 000 fine PLUS 83% surcharge (which includes 10% to the "clean election" fund) plus $20. Same as in the Temple, Studio etc. Felony cases.

Our government at work to keep Maricopa County safe from those dangerous hand jobs

BoredInd
10-07-13, 06:49
Incidentally I have visited the first 2 places that you have written about. I agree with your assessment for the 1st lady. Passable english. Decent looking MILF with a good rack. I think her name was Mimmi. Started me off with a table shower. And basically made you realize more was on after massage. Her massage was so. So, flipped me over and asked me what I wanted. Agreed for FS for $.6. Made me pay her first. Now this part is always the turn off for me. But I understand these girls concerns. So paid her. Took off her clothes. And did not look bad. Gave me CBJ. And let me do DATY. She was hairy. But hygenic. After words rode me like RCG for 10 mins till I got off. Cleaned me off later.

Did go to her again after a couple of weeks. For want of better options around where I was staying. This time was pleased to see me. Same thing. Good table shower. So. So massage. This time I let my hands wander to her thighs and ass while she was massaging my back. Did not protest. Was somewhat disappointed when I told her I did not want FS this time. Just HJ. Agreed on. 6. She stripped of completely and let me play with her rack till I came.

So all in all not bad experiences. Might visit again when I get to PHX in couple of weeks.

For the 2nd place now:

Now this was literally my first visit to an AMP from BP ads. So did not know how and what to expect. Met some lady at the door. Was definitely not 50ish. Think she was in her 30's. Did not look too bad. I suspect the girls have changed. No TS was on offer. Massage again was so. So as it always is at AMP's. Then flipped me around and asked me if I wanted an HJ. Told me. 6. Which I agreed to. Started playing with me. I attempted to take off her top. Where in she demanded. 4 more. I was like WTF. But agreed. More stupidity on my part. As I got desperate and negotiated FS for. 6 more. Which made is $.6 +.6 for the massage. FS was not bad. But she was a bit loose down there. Needless to say I felt I over paid. But that was before I realized the existence of this forum.

Any ways. With AMP's since the girls keep changing. Might try my luck again depending on how bleak the circumstances are or my level of horniness.


Having used the rather tired metaphor of the desert more than once or twice in my life, it is only fitting that I would eventually end up mongering in an actual desert. Departing the comfort zone of the five boroughs requires a leap of faith from me but duty does occasionally call, when I found myself in Phoenix and its environs I saw no reason to curtail my usual extracurricular activities.

1. This place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage-w-free-shower-by-most-beautiful-sexy-asian-therapist-480-990-2622-23/22149199

Phone: (480) 990-2622.

The first place I tried was a little shop tucked away behind a fast food restaurant. It was a bit rundown and mildewed, I was handled by a Chinese MILF whose name escapes me. There was a table shower, which was a plus, house fee was $60 per hour. Her English was decent, I was curious how one winds up toiling in Arizona, she gave me a travelogue with stops in Flushing and San Francisco. Foolishly, when she mentioned Flushing, I revealed that I'm a New Yorker and she astutely tucked that information away for later use.

The massage was mediocre, at the flip she asked $80 for a handjob."You want?" she asked, making the universal sign for "jacking off."

"I want," I said,"for $40." She insisted that no one in Phoenix gets a handy for 40 bucks, unlike New York. I smiled my magnetic smile and she agreed to $60 bucks, topless. The top came off and revealed superb implants, which I handled until she jacked my oily cock into submission.

2. That place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/body-fusionsignature-asian-massage-gorgeous-and-licensed-masseuses-26/24793624

Phone: (480) 945-2330.

"It must get better," I reasoned to myself, and I resolved to try another place soon. And so it was that I found myself at another little dive near Old Town Scottsdale. I was greeted by Rose, a 50-ish Chinese woman who fawned over me like I was made of gold. I paid $60 for the house again, really there are no bargains anymore are there?

A familiar-feeling table shower was followed by Rose's best effort at a strong massage, which was not strong at all. Then some negotiation, perhaps $40 handies are unheard of out here after all, I ended up paying $60 for a nude handjob. Decent boobs, wooly thatch of pubes, jackhammer technique.

After she started asking me when I'd be back, telling me she knew from looking at me that I was a nice man. No, I didn't invite her back to the hotel for room service.

3. My place:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantalizing-body-rub-you-wont-forget-anytime-soon-29/20466607

Phone: (623) 282-1369.

I changed tactics and decided to order in. I contacted "Taylor," who claims to be a hot 29 year old caucasian doing outcall bodyrubs. After some texting back and forth she came to my hotel room right on time. She was closer to 39 than 29, but was attractive and had a great pair of tits. I paid her $150 and she delivered a passable rub and excellent conversation. The finish was a relatively predictable handjob with roaming, nothing out of the ordinary but Taylor did prove to be a pleasant companion for an hour who delivered professional service.

Next time I find myself in the desert she'll probably be my oasis again. Unless someone has a better idea.

Slacker30
10-07-13, 13:52
So, I'm in the mood (again) for a little Latino persuasion. I've been to AAA-Massage on Glendale around 41st. And another place by old town Glendale off of 59th ave. While dreaming at both places, I constantly felt like when I walked out, either my car would be gone or the window would be smashed in. That would be difficult to explain, if you know what I mean. Any suggestions for places that feel a little less shady?You must be driving a Maserati or Ferrari. I don't feel there is anything sketchy about 54th Ave and Glendale or 49th Ave and Glendale. No one hangs out around the spas. AAA has parking in the lot in front of the door, and Four Seasons has a parking lot in back if you don't want to parallel park on the street.

Other places are Latina Bodyworks on 35th Ave just south of Thunderbird in the big office plaza on the east side of the street with outdoor entrances and bushes in front.

Enchanted Forest at 47th Ave and Maryland. Latest Rage in the 4800 block of N 19th Ave in the strip center.

Dick North
10-07-13, 21:36
FBI has been involved in massage cases. BTW per Court records most of the gals that spoke only Cantonese appear to be in the USA legally and no force or coercion involved but FBI is.

The chief of the Maricopa County Major Crimes Division wrote a letter to the FBI seeking information on the Federal sex trafficking investigation. No response yet, at least in the public record.

In letter to FBI Country explains how the massage parlors were a prostitution criminal enterprise based on sex offered to undercover officer, an undercover applied for a job and acts of prostitution were discussed and various 'Johns' were questioned and admitted to acts of prostitution.

Again the sham is sex trafficking may imply some sort of pimp or forced but under the Federal trafficking law it applies to fully consenting adults who are simply trying to make a living a choosing massage but are easy bust targets by their tipping discussion for sadly illegal acts like a hand release.

One defendant was earlier ticketed for massage without a license but case disappeared since no translator available. Now of course faced with serious felonies with prison terms and potential $150, 000 fine PLUS 83% surcharge (which includes 10% to the "clean election" fund) plus $20. Same as in the Temple, Studio etc. Felony cases.

Our government at work to keep Maricopa County safe from those dangerous hand jobsKnock it off.

Here's Jackson's testimony as to the purpose of this forum:

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women."

Get it Dave?

DN

BonAppetit
10-09-13, 04:29
Which websites do you guys use besides CL and BackPage? I want to check out some new sources.

Massage Dream
10-09-13, 13:59
I like Dave's posts. They give a legal side of things and we all get to learn a little from a different perspective. I also enjoy hearing about the busts he posts often, good places to avoid.

Went to the place in Peoria recently. The girl must have wieghed 80 lbs. Huge eraser nips. The discussion part took forever and that always annoys me. I had not been there before so that made her nervous. Okay experience.

Slacker30
10-10-13, 15:19
I like Dave's posts. They give a legal side of things and we all get to learn a little from a different perspective. I also enjoy hearing about the busts he posts often, good places to avoid.I agree that knowing what legal issues that arise in this business is important. We live in a conservative country legally speaking, and sex in exchange for money will continue to be illegal for some time to come.

While I don't think we should be afraid to partake in the hobby, we need to know what is going on in the law enforcement arena.

Tooncinator
10-11-13, 12:59
Ever since Bubba pointed out Lisa (with the fine rack and kid furniture pics) I've wanted to sample some of that. This is the MAssAge place on Olive near 51st, by the gun shop.

I stopped by twice in two weeks at about 8pm and got nothing. The first time, the door was unlocked and the Open light on, but nobody would come to the window. The next week the light was on, but the front door locked. No car in front either time. Has anyone visited her?

After missing Lisa, I decided to stop by Enjoy Massage on Northern. The reign of Coco has finally ended there (older Chinese farmgirl, to be kind). There was a fairly young Chinese cutie with a nice bod and decent English. Had a nice massage for awhile, then talked her down to $20 from her requested $50 for FS. Enjoyed some DATY* then rode for a good 20 minutes before she begged mercy and did a hand finish. Won't be back too soon.

* Jeeebus cripes! What is that mentholatum-like lube that some Asians smear on Happy Kitty? Monger repellent? At least it washes away pretty quickly.

Happy trails and sweet dreams,

Tooncinator

Member #4210
10-11-13, 20:42
I like his posts even though they scare the heel out of me.

As the country deteriorates expect more oppressive measures and I sure as hell want o be warned about any potential negatives.

Thanks Dave.


I agree that knowing what legal issues that arise in this business is important. We live in a conservative country legally speaking, and sex in exchange for money will continue to be illegal for some time to come.

While I don't think we should be afraid to partake in the hobby, we need to know what is going on in the law enforcement arena.

TylerPerelli
10-12-13, 21:33
Dave's posts get a tad long winded, yet I certainly do not mind his posts. He is quite knowledgable on the legal issues and has worked with some industry folks.

Due to scare of STDs and LE, I long ago gave up pursuing street walkers and have cut way down on escorts. My preference is in house or take out action from strip club girls or a visit to a well reviewed LMP.

Aoxox
10-13-13, 12:16
http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young-asian-thai-top-shelf-dont-go-wrong-look-no-further-6-flowers-original-22/25342329

Anyone tried this one? Usually, a AMP only have one or two girls. I know they all used fake photos.

Datadog
10-13-13, 22:07
On Northen near I17. The girl, Amy came, up. She was young. 20's, and cute. A bit of a baby belly, but nice attitude and great tits. Pricey, at $60 for 30 min. Included ts, actually mandatory before any touching. Elected HJ for another $60, again too much, I'm used to $40 and $40, but that's in AK where the only MP are old Asians. This girl was brunette latina, apparently her partner there is blonde but I did not see her. She was good at her job, not extra touchy feely, but not cold either. A good visit, but only here another couple days so prob not returning.

BillyO
10-15-13, 00:17
I need some recommendations.

I really need a deep tissue, work all the knots out, no pun intended, massage.

A happy ending would be nice but not necessarily required.

I'm just really in need of a kick ass massage.

All recommendations are appreciated.

Arizona61
10-15-13, 02:11
Hey tylerPerell, your message box is full. I would like to hear any pointer you may have in house or take out action comment in your posting.


Dave's posts get a tad long winded, yet I certainly do not mind his posts. He is quite knowledgable on the legal issues and has worked with some industry folks.

Due to scare of STDs and LE, I long ago gave up pursuing street walkers and have cut way down on escorts. My preference is in house or take out action from strip club girls or a visit to a well reviewed LMP..

Massage Dream
10-15-13, 14:50
I need some recommendations.

I really need a deep tissue, work all the knots out, no pun intended, massage.

A happy ending would be nice but not necessarily required.

I'm just really in need of a kick ass massage.

All recommendations are appreciated.This place advertises on craigs and BP. I have been many times. Great prices and fantastic massage for cheap. The massage is very symetrical and that is something I really appreciate. Once at the one on Indian School in Avondale I got a cute 18 ish girl. Not even a slight chance of extras has ever been hinted and the rooms just have curtains. I think an hour is $40 and 90 min is $60. They don't seem to speak English well and for me that is a plus, I like them quite. They have a location on Dysart too but I haven't been as happy there.

Tooncinator
10-15-13, 21:21
Although I'll end a bit off-topic, I'll start with news that "Lisa" of the nice rack and kids furniture has left Day Spa. I never got to sample.

Her replacement is on the older side, gives a pretty good massage, and an ok HE if you ask her to slow down. She's also cool with roaming under the clothes and has a nice butt and great attitude, imo. To me, she looks like she belongs on Venice beach (ponytail, bright colors). As far as I can tell her name is Jar Jar (that can't be right but I didn't want to keep asking). She wasn't willing to go for a horsie ride due to size issues (she's petite, I'm not).

I beg guidance from elder statesmen Re: a Chinese AMP girlfriend. PM seems appropriate. I made a friend who quickly converted from "very fun" to GFE service. She's in L.A. For a spell so I have time to reflect. Just looking for general tips, Do's and Don'ts. She knows I'm married, seems cool with it (flattered that I prefer her?) Speaks almost no English. Natch' I want to screw her brains out for as long as possible, with minimal drama. I fricking Dare anyone to have a decent email convo using Google Translate!

Happy trails,

Tooncinator.

TylerPerelli
10-17-13, 03:51
Hey tylerPerell, your message box is full. I would like to hear any pointer you may have in house or take out action comment in your posting.

.Will answer publicly...though I did clear a few messages...

Have cut back mongering and been on a bit of a dry spell lately for take out. Limited in house fun can be had at Blue Moon, Bandaids, or HiLiter.

For in house fun or take out it simply takes practice, time, and money. You learn how to read the girls, and what questions to ask, and how much to offer...the girl will let you know...sometimes on a phone call later versus in the club. Always counter offer and inquire specifically about the services you desire (once an agreement has Been made to negotiate and get together).

Any girl at any club could give you what you desire if the timing and donation are right. The challenge is a reasonable rate with a hottie that seldom or never has done take out. If they give a high mileage dance ask about VIP. Mention you'd like to see them outside the club...dinner, bite to eat, or drinks? Mention that backpage has hot girls at reasonable prices. Mention you like to spend an hour with them outside the club versus getting ten or twelve dances in the club.

Man, I need to find some time to practice what I am preaching.

Arizona61
10-19-13, 03:16
I have a few in mind and will definitely take your advice at our local club in AJ. BM in house has happened a few time if you are only looking for a HJ with a little BBBJ once in awhile but I'm more interested in FS. This should be fun, and a challenge.


Will answer publicly...though I did clear a few messages...

Have cut back mongering and been on a bit of a dry spell lately for take out. Limited in house fun can be had at Blue Moon, Bandaids, or HiLiter.

For in house fun or take out it simply takes practice, time, and money. You learn how to read the girls, and what questions to ask, and how much to offer...the girl will let you know...sometimes on a phone call later versus in the club. Always counter offer and inquire specifically about the services you desire (once an agreement has Been made to negotiate and get together).

Any girl at any club could give you what you desire if the timing and donation are right. The challenge is a reasonable rate with a hottie that seldom or never has done take out. If they give a high mileage dance ask about VIP. Mention you'd like to see them outside the club...dinner, bite to eat, or drinks? Mention that backpage has hot girls at reasonable prices. Mention you like to spend an hour with them outside the club versus getting ten or twelve dances in the club.

Man, I need to find some time to practice what I am preaching.

Member #3914
10-20-13, 13:36
Incidentally I have visited the first 2 places that you have written about. I agree with your assessment for the 1st lady. Passable english. Decent looking MILF with a good rack. I think her name was Mimmi. Started me off with a table shower. And basically made you realize more was on after massage. Her massage was so. So, flipped me over and asked me what I wanted. Agreed for FS for $.6. Made me pay her first. Now this part is always the turn off for me. But I understand these girls concerns. So paid her. Took off her clothes. And did not look bad. Gave me CBJ. And let me do DATY. She was hairy. But hygenic. After words rode me like RCG for 10 mins till I got off. Cleaned me off later.

Did go to her again after a couple of weeks. For want of better options around where I was staying. This time was pleased to see me. Same thing. Good table shower. So. So massage. This time I let my hands wander to her thighs and ass while she was massaging my back. Did not protest. Was somewhat disappointed when I told her I did not want FS this time. Just HJ. Agreed on. 6. She stripped of completely and let me play with her rack till I came.

So all in all not bad experiences. Might visit again when I get to PHX in couple of weeks.

For the 2nd place now:

Now this was literally my first visit to an AMP from BP ads. So did not know how and what to expect. Met some lady at the door. Was definitely not 50ish. Think she was in her 30's. Did not look too bad. I suspect the girls have changed. No TS was on offer. Massage again was so. So as it always is at AMP's. Then flipped me around and asked me if I wanted an HJ. Told me. 6. Which I agreed to. Started playing with me. I attempted to take off her top. Where in she demanded. 4 more. I was like WTF. But agreed. More stupidity on my part. As I got desperate and negotiated FS for. 6 more. Which made is $.6 +.6 for the massage. FS was not bad. But she was a bit loose down there. Needless to say I felt I over paid. But that was before I realized the existence of this forum.

Any ways. With AMP's since the girls keep changing. Might try my luck again depending on how bleak the circumstances are or my level of horniness.Similar experience with the first place. Lady was about 40, pleasant, allowing free roaming, and roamed from get go. Blah massage. $.6 for FS, problem was that entryway was tight. Decent experience overall. Also agreed to only .4 entry fee. $$ total damage.

Member #3914
10-20-13, 13:53
Ok guys, with all the tips that have been so generously made available on this forum, I need to return the favor. I'll let you in on an A+ discovery that is not on BP or CraigsList, so I thought I would share this little gem with you.

First off, just to calibrate you, my mongering mode is typically to find an ideally good massage combined with a GFE and HE. FS is not really my thing, although I've been offered it many times. I also REALLY dislike the bartering types who want to talk money first and break up the mood. My favorite find is that easy–going cutie that wants to please, knows what I want (want all customers universally want) , and trusts me to leave a good tip. My experience is that those that fit this are typically Asians with the good attitudes. I have not had the best experiences with non-Asians due to lame skills, rushed mentality or just plain greedy. I have tried a few 'independents' on BP with some mixed results. But the AMPs just make it simple when you want to just walk-in without the hassle – challenge is, you just never know what you'll find.

On the corner of Shea / Scottsdale Road, there must be eight or nine AMPs. It is a very high density environment, I think because of the lower rent properties, and lots of DOM (dirty old men) in the area. I've tried most of them out over the years just for the adventure and seeing what I may find. Most will give you the basic HE if they get good vibes from you, but enthusiasm varies.

To my surprise, I found a little pot-o-gold at the place I visited yesterday. This one is on the SE corner of Shea / Scottsdale Road. In a large 'L-shaped' strip mall. It's the one with large MASSAGE sign over the patio cover in the SE corner of that complex. Hard to miss. I had not visited this one prior to yesterday, but as I walk in, I check out the standard layout: front desk with bare furnishings, no staff, and a locked door to the back. Looked promising so far. As I wait to be greeted and see what she looks like – expecting a Chinese or Korean. I'm taken back when out comes this beautiful black woman (Sarah). She's very attractive, large breasts, athletic build, and tight ass. She gives me the prices – I take 45 min for. 50. She waits for me to hand her the cash – another good sign – looking for clues. Asks the standard, 'Have you been here before? ' A question to which the answer is always YES. (That's a tip for you new guys. Always act like you're a regular there).

The room is nice with a very comfortable and clean table. She tells me to undress to my comfort level. I strip down and notice there is no towel to cover up my ass? Only a tiny little wash cloth folded on the table. What the heck is this for, I wonder? Anyway – I just decide to just go for it and lay down with no draping – which was a first for me. So I'm lying there, just a little self-conscious, she comes in, unfazed by me in that state. I got good vibes from her from the beginning and we were hitting it off. Another tip guys, is I try to look your best: well groomed – especially your groin – not clean shaven which is weird for a guy, but looking good down there. Be clean, and smell nice. This will definitely separate you from her typical customers and may get her excited to service you better. This is just been my experience.

She started off with a medium back rub. Good skills, worked on me with some force. Already starts the teasing by brushing her tits on my back and hitting her pussy on the top of my head. Working down she is purposeful to brush my balls on every stoke up my leg. This may sound strange, but I make it a point to tuck my tackle behind when I get on the table so she has full access to the goods! She is good and knows what she's doing. Very sensual, doesn't talk a lot – but the teasing and anticipation is electrifying. She's climbing on top of me, brushing, grinding her pussy – all-in-all, wants to please. No rush – after 35 minutes, she says to turn over. She politely places that tiny towel over my goods – now I see what that was for. As she now works the front, she's rubbing her pussy over my arm! I reach up and massage her back to which she says, 'oh, that's good, I like to be touched too! ' She's begging me to touch her everywhere. Asks me to touch where I need attention, and it's Game On! Now things heat up. I pull her top down, as she's stoking my cock between her huge, firm tits. I pull down her pants to see that shaved snatch and touch it – she moans and starts talking dirty. I mean, really dirty. This is one area that the Asians come short are the nasty talk since they have very limited communication skills.

Anyway, Sarah is working me over, moaning, and saying how much she loves my cock! I'm flattered. She's going for it. And she does love cock! I'm touching her all over, nothing is off limits! I blow all over her yobs as she giggles with delight. Ok, that was awesome. I'm thinking to myself. Then I realize, she didn't ask for a dime for all this GFE service. She just trusted me that I would take care of her. I left her. 70, which seemed appropriate. I have been quoted. 60 for HE and $.0 for topless before (at the Oasis on Elliott Road / I-10) – which seemed high, and too American! Sarah was different. Professional in a way, but very sensual and a true GFE in every way. Totally recommend if you haven't tried a chocolate hottie – she is delightful. She told me she usually doesn't work on Mondays, but I suspect she's usually there mid-day, Tues-Sat. Best of luck!There are two AMPs in that area. I tried the one which is southernmost with foot massage and massage sign. Asian lady 40 or so. Fair massage and other options available for $.6 to $ She didn't want me to give more info. I would repeat.

TylerPerelli
10-20-13, 16:27
I have a few in mind and will definitely take your advice at our local club in AJ. BM in house has happened a few time if you are only looking for a HJ with a little BBBJ once in awhile but I'm more interested in FS. This should be fun, and a challenge.Tucson clubs offer greater opportunity than Phoenix clubs...see another approach in that forum.

Also, dancers sometimes talk and sometimes are discreet. Which can work both for and against mongers.

No matter the outcome, try to have a respectful interaction.

Daves82
10-21-13, 02:55
Hi Guys,

I am a pretty big fan of AMPs. As I stay in North Phoenix and that's why I have tried many of the massage parlors in this side of the town. One of my favs was the China Day Spa on 64th St and Bell but it seems to have been closed now. They had another branch on Thunderbird-Scottsdale which was working till some time back and now that one is also closed.

Any idea guys if they have re-opened in any other part of the city? Or any other AMP on East Bell Rd? I have tried all those on Shea-Scottsdale crossing. Any other pointers will be really appreciated...

Thanks Guys.

TheYoungOne
10-21-13, 05:03
Alright I'm going to start off by saying I don't like to have sex I find it to be tedious and I always see it as a task. I prefer hjs I never used backpage or craigslist or payed a women for anything at all. That being said I want to use sites like backpages etc to get hjs so what I'm asking is their is anything I should know since I am a newbie to this scene. I almost forgot I am 20 years old with a young face women always think I'm around 17 and still in high school will this affect me in anyway with the women on these sites thanks to all that respond.

Bubba1979
10-24-13, 14:25
Well.. After much consideration and self-reflection, Ol Bubba realized it was time to see Mya.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oh-yes-mya-is-ready-to-seduce-youmypictures-mygoodnessthe-difference-is-beauty-and-body-to-match-35/18133807

Much like the Muslims to Mecca, or Salmon to their native springs, all true mongers in the Phoenix area are called to see Mya. At least once.

I had noticed a special she was running for .5 for 15 minutes and thought that would be the perfect initiation. After nipping on a few MGD's for courage, I walked into the parlor located on Peoria and 50th ave. She greeted me from behind the standard and I might add very familiar small sliding window and beckoned me in. Her English shocked me actually, Ol Bubba was expecting a heavy Mexican accent, but alas it was not to be found. Turns out she is a local girl with Hispanic roots. But I digress.

Anywho, she was wearing denim short shorts and a nice top as she led me in to her lair. (A Hispanic Daisy Duke..if you will). This girl is truly built like a French tank. Man, she is big but lean at the same time. I'm almost positive she has had her ass augmented ala Kim Kardasian. The antlers were imposing and demanded respect. The massage itself lasted maybe 5 minutes and I decided to flip on my own accord to take in the majesty of her looks. Keep in mind, this is Bubba's personal preference in women (Curvy, Big boned) and may not apply to all mongers. As I flipped she immediately dropped the britches and Ol Bubba got to view her in all her glory. Roaming was allowed and encouraged, filthy chatter in Spanish soon appeared and "Old Glory" once again treated the park visitors at Yellowstone to a vacation treat.

On a side note, during the roaming I noticed she was actually dripping wet. I guess she must really enjoy her work.

Anyway, the deed was done, and much like the Salmon, Old Bubba turned a variety of colors and floated back down stream. (Tip of the hat to "Really Bored" for the idea).

Reallly Bored
10-25-13, 12:29
Well.. After much consideration and self-reflection, Ol Bubba realized it was time to see Mya.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oh-yes-mya-is-ready-to-seduce-youmypictures-mygoodnessthe-difference-is-beauty-and-body-to-match-35/18133807

Much like the Muslims to Mecca, or Salmon to their native springs, all true mongers in the Phoenix area are called to see Mya. At least once.

I had noticed a special she was running for .5 for 15 minutes and thought that would be the perfect initiation. After nipping on a few MGD's for courage, I walked into the parlor located on Peoria and 50th ave. She greeted me from behind the standard and I might add very familiar small sliding window and beckoned me in. Her English shocked me actually, Ol Bubba was expecting a heavy Mexican accent, but alas it was not to be found. Turns out she is a local girl with Hispanic roots. But I digress.

Anywho, she was wearing denim short shorts and a nice top as she led me in to her lair. (A Hispanic Daisy Duke..if you will). This girl is truly built like a French tank. Man, she is big but lean at the same time. I'm almost positive she has had her ass augmented ala Kim Kardasian. The antlers were imposing and demanded respect. The massage itself lasted maybe 5 minutes and I decided to flip on my own accord to take in the majesty of her looks. Keep in mind, this is Bubba's personal preference in women (Curvy, Big boned) and may not apply to all mongers. As I flipped she immediately dropped the britches and Ol Bubba got to view her in all her glory. Roaming was allowed and encouraged, filthy chatter in Spanish soon appeared and "Old Glory" once again treated the park visitors at Yellowstone to a vacation treat.

On a side note, during the roaming I noticed she was actually dripping wet. I guess she must really enjoy her work.

Anyway, the deed was done, and much like the Salmon, Old Bubba turned a variety of colors and floated back down stream. (Tip of the hat to "Really Bored" for the idea).15 minutes? Are you kidding? Do the half hour and get the whole enchilada. She gets extremely wet. I have made her cum three times in 30 minutes.

Okane
10-25-13, 16:41
Only Ol' Bubba could write a posting that reads like a sex novel!

Good going Bubba, keep them comin".

Okane.

Member #5432
10-25-13, 18:33
15 minutes? Are you kidding? Do the half hour and get the whole enchilada. She gets extremely wet. I have made her cum three times in 30 minutes.Mya sounds very juicy and worth the pilgrimage out west. But I'm curious $/ hh seems quite steep. Is that all inclusive? What is expected beyond that tip wise? Does that include the door price?

Scooter Line
10-28-13, 10:51
The first time I saw Mya I was getting ready to tip her when she told me to put my money away. The $ for the half hour covered everything. What? A provider turning down a tip? As I've continued to seen her I have forced her to take my money because her services have gotten better and better. (I think it is because she knows me now). Twice I have been turned away because she was booked for the whole day. That should tell you all you need to know.

DavePHX
11-03-13, 06:45
Two Asian women from massage places didn't show up for arraignment late October on criminal enterprise felonies. As usual given another date (in mid November) to show up before arrest warrant issued. Appears both were released on bail after initial arrest.

Initials M.F. 53 yr old Asian women booked by MSCO on 10/3 based on Direct Complaint for Maintaining House of Prostitution and Prostitution. Arraignment on 10/7 apparently released on bail. Then on 10/23 the typical supervening indictment for felony criminal enterprise. She did not show up for 2nd arraignment 10/28/13. Continued until 11/14.

The war on consenting adult pleasures continues in Phoenix and still many cases ongoing in Superior Court spending so many resources going after crimes with no victims, that in my view benefit culture as in most of the world except the USA.

JackPhx8150
11-03-13, 22:13
Tried the Golden Spa on McClintock / Elliot. Asked for Sunny. Not in. Jessica was availible. I was not disappointed. She provided the same services noted by Ole Bubba at the same prices I am definately going back and asking for Jessica. BTW Killer body and very attractive.

DavePHX
11-04-13, 04:19
Update: China Day Foot Massage, AZ Massage and Greenway Massage Raid in 2012.

10/29/13 Status conference before Judge Reinstein – Those not pled include (first names) Quijano, Lan, Shu, and Jerome with next status conference 12/10. Hong on 11/29 and Diana on 12/5.

As previous reported judge deferred question for trial of having to prove predicate offense of prostitution in order to be charged with the felonies related to criminal enterprise.

Martha co-owner pled to class 6 felony and at sentencing to prison suspended subject to completion of 6 months supervised probation.

Robert co-owner pled to two counts of class 5 felonies and at sentencing to prison suspended subject to completion of 18 months supervised probation.

DavePHX
11-10-13, 16:16
Euro Style Day Spa.

9118 and Cave Creek Road, Phoenix.

Reading some review having given up for about a decade on massage in Phoenix (miss the great nude-reverse-release flat fee no legal issues in Toronto area I visited a lot) noted 3 places not that far from me in North Phx.

About 8 pm Sat night, called two that were suppose to be open (one says 7 days till 10 pm) but no answer. Instead of just walking in trying to see if certain gals with good reviews are working and can set up appointment. Decided to drive by both. Both closed. Then I recalled Euro I drive by a lot but from sign thought name was Kokopellis? Massage (name above "massage" on sign). But checked here and found "Euro Style" with a few possibly good reviews.

Arrived about 9 pm and did 45 min for $50.

Front money gal was friendly and nice but not quite my physical type.. But then she said someone would be in shortly and got a glance of a tall, slender attractive women.

This resulted in kind of good and bad. Very attractive gal "El..something" but about the only words of English she knew were " sorry no English, Russian".

She proceeded to do a very good quite deep massage. I enjoy regular massage and actually have been trained in Esalen and taught couples groups. Even G spot massage and have had zillions of all types of massage ranging from Thailand (Nuru type on mat), Philippines, Canada and of course USA Only in the USA Is there the immaturity over sexuality and legal issues.

"El" had great body, beautiful face but very professional garb, no skin showing and no hint of sensuality (sadly). However excellent massage!

I laid down uncovered on front but on flip she covered the nice parts with fairly large towel. I was hoping (hope..ing not hopping. Have to check spelling) it would get more sensual, but was not to be had.

She only spent short time on front and then maybe having feeling correctly my tight spots on neck and back on a funny way tried to ask if I wanted more neck and back massage it wanted to flip back over. Between her fast talking Russian and gestures went back to on the stomach and yes I needed her good work on back and neck. If we didn't have the huge language issues she seemed very pleasant. She reminded me of some of the great Russian / Ukraine women in strip clubs and nude-reverse adult body rubs in Toronto area. They seem so much more naturally intimate than native Canadian or USA Women and had lots of great times.

"El" in my dreams was like them but without the sensuality. If she learns that side or is willing, I could fall in love with her!

At the end she said something about 45 min (assume up and it was full 45 per my watch) I got up and she gestured something if I wanted (besides water) but with her Russian I had no clue what. Maybe something sensual but no clue on my end.

At end the front desk nice lady wanted to know how it was. Said that she had just started yesterday. I said great massage which was so true. Just none of the intimacy / sensuality I also enjoy and look for like most guys here.

Yet I would highly rate the experience based on the quality on the professional side, perceived attitude etc... If I only knew Russian or if "El" knew English since I like communications as well as massage.

My good massage and service rating great based on massage. Nothing else suggested. No skin exposed so hard to judge except my type of tall slender body have no idea about breasts, butt etc.. Which I had a more "hands on" review. After here went to Hi-Liter for hands on $10 lap dances!

milman69
11-10-13, 22:14
The first time I saw Mya I was getting ready to tip her when she told me to put my money away. The $ for the half hour covered everything. What? A provider turning down a tip? As I've continued to seen her I have forced her to take my money because her services have gotten better and better. (I think it is because she knows me now). Twice I have been turned away because she was booked for the whole day. That should tell you all you need to know.I called the number on Backpage and the person said she was Mya but when I got over to her new location, she looked nothing like the pictures in the ad. If it was really her I saw, it was disappointing.

Reallly Bored
11-11-13, 00:50
I called the number on Backpage and the person said she was Mya but when I got over to her new location, she looked nothing like the pictures in the ad. If it was really her I saw, it was disappointing.Mya is usually only at USA. She may have bought another spa, and can't be in two places at once. Her pics are real.

Tusconcat
11-11-13, 10:11
Mya is usually only at USA. She may have bought another spa, and can't be in two places at once. Her pics are real.Mya just took over Cleopetra's and she is now working in both places. I saw her on Saturday afternoon at Cleopatra's. She looks like her pics, but I thought the service was rushed. I had seen a while back and the service was not rushed.

TopherCgc2
11-12-13, 00:52
Thought about going and checkers nc this place out. Pretty lady Ariel working (posted on BP) . Promised two pop in dream after .6 for 45 min and .8. However told after first pop time is up. Would have been a disappointment and would have felt robbed. Would not go back! Boo!!

The Bobster
11-12-13, 16:58
Made an appointment, arrived at a well appointed studio connected to a house. Ofelia was quite attractive, but I felt that she would much rather be doing something else. Spent a good 20 minutes on my calves. Therapeutic only and she seemed disinterested, would not repeat.

Jerry8
11-12-13, 18:14
Thought about going and checkers nc this place out. Pretty lady Ariel working (posted on BP) . Promised two pop in dream after .6 for 45 min and .8. However told after first pop time is up. Would have been a disappointment and would have felt robbed. Would not go back! Boo!!Can someone please translate this into plain English?

Papa Rotzi
11-12-13, 20:01
Those that knew him. Or of him. Know of what I speak. Tagreplacement0}.

FartBoxLapdog
11-15-13, 07:08
Alright ye matey's. I'm not having any luck on the back page as I'm on the hunt for a special sloot to dream about. I'm looking for a natural beaver which is hard to find these days. Don't get me wrong, this old mutt likes them shaved and slick as Data's shoes in Goonies. But once in a great while I like to take a trip down that ole lane called "the 70's". Now I'm not talking about finding a hirsute goddess that I'll need a light-weight McCulloch chainsaw followed by a Husqvarna auger before I can go down diving, but I'm not looking for a girl that's only participating in Movember for a few weeks either. Would just like to bury my snout in some light fur with morning dew followed by the sweet nectar of her gusset. So if you know the type and can steer my ship in the right direction, it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

MrGuapo
11-15-13, 16:16
Went and had fun with Jessica... Kind of a hard to understand accent but great little body on her. As usual she took me back for a table shower and did a little roaming. Got to the room and she did a soft massage and on the flip the negotiation started LOL... I ended up giving up 120 to release the hostages! In this dream she got on top and road the little guy and then spun around while on him so her ass was facing me. She was ok with my fingers and hands roaming wherever they wanted to. I ended up getting her to bend over the table and I finished doggy. I'll repeat soon, had a "blast" in that dream LOL.

Kekker18
11-16-13, 21:27
Had the mya dream today! Wow is all I'm saying! That body is built for sex! Already booked again for next day I think I'm hooked.

Slacker30
11-18-13, 18:51
Visited these places recently.

At Tokyo Spa on 51st Ave and Maryland, saw Michelle a short Latina girl. Paid the 40 for the massage, got a ok rub down, maybe a B, and she never mentioned any extras. Asked me if I wanted some water and I said I wanted FS. She said, oh, that's $. I thought that was cheap. Said ok and as I went for dining at the "Y", she said that was extra. Gave her 40 and she loosed up quite a bit but apparently wasn't used to getting off at work. It turned out to be an ok session, but maybe if I go back she will "loosen up" and allow herself to relax and enjoy herself instead of just letting the guy get off. Whether I go back again remains to be seen.

Last week I visited Four Seasons spa on Glendale and 54th Ave. Took a chance with a Latina girl named Susie. Went to take a piss before I went in the room, and alas, I was pissing on a used condom in the toilet. Oops, guess it didn't flush.

Susie was friendly enough and gave a good back massage, but wanted $$ for FS. I know a lot of girls still charge $$ and recently many have gone down to 150, so I paid her. Last time I went to this spa, another Latina girl really got into it and squirted for my $$. This time Susie was a little hesitant and held back. It was like sex was a chore to her. I won't see her again.

I am having a hard time finding any masseuses during my doorbell ringing who come out looking nice with heels on and sexy. Most look like they do on a Sunday morning at Safeway getting groceries before they had a shower and did their hair and makeup. The best looking masseuses I saw were at Paradise Awaits in Sun City, short dresses full makeup and heels. Yes you will pay 50 for the massage and $$ for FS, but they look good.

I think many are dressing down to deemphasize the sexual nature of the business, and some just don't care.

What do you guys think?

Noblesavage01
11-19-13, 12:03
My most disappointing visit ever to a MP. Greeted by a latina named Maria, Short wavy hair, nice body but a shitty attitude. Ajainst better judgement went in and was shown the room. Got comfortable as she started a rub on my back which was lame to begin with. After five she had me flip over and asked if I needed extras. I mentioned a Hoover and was quoted $. I brought it sown to .8 as she started to yank. There was nothing sensual about this, rather clinical. My hands started to roam and she did not like it one bit and said stop that. At that point I was pissed off enough, so pulled the cover out, got dressed and told her that her attitude sucked and left. Won't be going back. Headed over to AAA to complete the dream and Karen was good as always...

--NS.

Shaved Cock
11-22-13, 20:40
My personal goal is to have visited every establishment in the Valley.- I'm probably 90% there. Anyhow, I was driving the other day north on 59th avenue from I-10 and saw at least 2 new places I haven't been to. Anyone TOFTT yet?

Smokeey
11-26-13, 00:35
My personal goal is to have visited every establishment in the Valley.- I'm probably 90% there. Anyhow, I was driving the other day north on 59th avenue from I-10 and saw at least 2 new places I haven't been to. Anyone TOFTT yet?Not sure how far north you went. I've been to the place on the southwest corner of 59th ave and Greenway twice now. I think its called Jade. First time I paid $.6 to get in the door for an hour, and then it was another $.6 for a HJ. The massage was pretty good. Girl was cute, smaller thinner Chinese woman in her mid 30's. She removed her top to let me play with the girls. I thought it was good enough to try a second time about a week later. Same entry fee, another Chinese woman, but not the same girl as before. This one was older, and looked like her face took a few hits from the branches of an ugly tree. She asked for $.8 for a HJ. I declined and she finished the massage. Massage wasn't the worst I had.

Smokeey

NumberOnePerve
11-26-13, 18:36
Not sure how far north you went. I've been to the place on the southwest corner of 59th ave and Greenway twice now. I think its called Jade. First time I paid $.6 to get in the door for an hour, and then it was another $.6 for a HJ. The massage was pretty good. Girl was cute, smaller thinner Chinese woman in her mid 30's. She removed her top to let me play with the girls. I thought it was good enough to try a second time about a week later. Same entry fee, another Chinese woman, but not the same girl as before. This one was older, and looked like her face took a few hits from the branches of an ugly tree. She asked for $.8 for a HJ. I declined and she finished the massage. Massage wasn't the worst I had.

SmokeeyYeah I have also been there. Tipping was an issue and I had FS that was not as good as HJ. After maybe 5 minutes she said I went to long and finished me with OK HJ. I also had a buddy go there and he had one good and one bad experience. Personally once burned I never return.

Right now at 99th and Bell on the S / E corner behind thai restaurant they have some new talent and both girls are excellent. They also have a girl named Coco as a third girl and I do not recommend her. The usual girl that has been there for years is back in China. Don't miss the new talent. Tipping is never an issue. Of the three girls recommend CC the most. Great bbj skills and FS to make you think she is in love with you.

NumberOnePerve
11-26-13, 18:45
Visited these places recently.

At Tokyo Spa on 51st Ave and Maryland, saw Michelle a short Latina girl. Paid the 40 for the massage, got a ok rub down, maybe a B, and she never mentioned any extras. Asked me if I wanted some water and I said I wanted FS. She said, oh, that's $. I thought that was cheap. Said ok and as I went for dining at the "Y", she said that was extra. Gave her 40 and she loosed up quite a bit but apparently wasn't used to getting off at work. It turned out to be an ok session, but maybe if I go back she will "loosen up" and allow herself to relax and enjoy herself instead of just letting the guy get off. Whether I go back again remains to be seen.

Last week I visited Four Seasons spa on Glendale and 54th Ave. Took a chance with a Latina girl named Susie. Went to take a piss before I went in the room, and alas, I was pissing on a used condom in the toilet. Oops, guess it didn't flush.

Susie was friendly enough and gave a good back massage, but wanted $$ for FS. I know a lot of girls still charge $$ and recently many have gone down to 150, so I paid her. Last time I went to this spa, another Latina girl really got into it and squirted for my $$. This time Susie was a little hesitant and held back. It was like sex was a chore to her. I won't see her again.

I am having a hard time finding any masseuses during my doorbell ringing who come out looking nice with heels on and sexy. Most look like they do on a Sunday morning at Safeway getting groceries before they had a shower and did their hair and makeup. The best looking masseuses I saw were at Paradise Awaits in Sun City, short dresses full makeup and heels. Yes you will pay 50 for the massage and $$ for FS, but they look good.

I think many are dressing down to deemphasize the sexual nature of the business, and some just don't care.

What do you guys think?I have to agree none of them dress up anymore. As for the Four Seasons I just gave it up because of poor attitude and tipping issue.

I find ANFU always $.2. $.4 and girls usually fuck your socks off.

I have been going to an old place on 99th and Bell S / E corner. Three new girls. Two really good. CC is best. $.4 for DAY, BBJ and FS. I think she would have taken $.2 but it was so good I gave her $.4 As close to a GFE as I have had in a long time. There was one girl there for years that was OK but she is on vacation so don't know how long this talent will be there.

Gold coast
11-26-13, 23:03
Went and had fun with Jessica... Kind of a hard to understand accent but great little body on her. As usual she took me back for a table shower and did a little roaming. Got to the room and she did a soft massage and on the flip the negotiation started LOL... I ended up giving up 120 to release the hostages! In this dream she got on top and road the little guy and then spun around while on him so her ass was facing me. She was ok with my fingers and hands roaming wherever they wanted to. I ended up getting her to bend over the table and I finished doggy. I'll repeat soon, had a "blast" in that dream LOL.Glad your experience was better. I had a bad one the other day. The gal I had might as well have been a machine it was so mechanical. The only personality she showed was GPS which turns me off pretty fast. She tried to give up after only a minute and wanted to finish with hand...

Smokeey
11-27-13, 22:49
Right now at 99th and Bell on the S / E corner behind thai restaurant they have some new talent and both girls are excellent. They also have a girl named Coco as a third girl and I do not recommend her. The usual girl that has been there for years is back in China. Don't miss the new talent. Tipping is never an issue. Of the three girls recommend CC the most. Great bbj skills and FS to make you think she is in love with you.I'll have to try that place, thanks for the tip. I've been east of that, at Burns and Bell. SE corner across from the Barnet Dulaney Perkins. I saw a gorgeous young lady named Jessica. Because of how cute she was I opted for the hour treatment for .8.

She was friendly enough, and was very cute. Asked if I wanted a TS, I opted for it. It was ok but she didn't tease at all or touch my junk. The massage was a lame attempt. She basically rubbed some lotion on my back, and then wiped it off with a towel. No actual "massage". About 20 minutes of that she asked if I wanted anything else. I made the universal sign for a HJ and she said $, she then pointed at her boobs and said $.5, then pointed to her mouth and said $$ I didn't want to pay any of those prices. The problem was I paid for the hour and still had 40 minutes left. I knew if I said no to everything that I wouldn't be getting that hour, and she was damn cute, so I opted for the $ HJ. I did get to feel her up, and my god she has awesome tits.

I haven't been back because I know the wrong head would do the negotiating, and he doesn't have the best financial sense. But god she was cute.

Arizona Junkie
11-28-13, 00:34
Is this her? I agree, tits look amazing, and there's no telling how much money she would get from me.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/i-love-love-what-i-do-hot-brazilian-jessica-22/25194341

Thanks for the info!


I'll have to try that place, thanks for the tip. I've been east of that, at Burns and Bell. SE corner across from the Barnet Dulaney Perkins. I saw a gorgeous young lady named Jessica. Because of how cute she was I opted for the hour treatment for .8.

She was friendly enough, and was very cute. Asked if I wanted a TS, I opted for it. It was ok but she didn't tease at all or touch my junk. The massage was a lame attempt. She basically rubbed some lotion on my back, and then wiped it off with a towel. No actual "massage". About 20 minutes of that she asked if I wanted anything else. I made the universal sign for a HJ and she said $, she then pointed at her boobs and said $.5, then pointed to her mouth and said $$ I didn't want to pay any of those prices. The problem was I paid for the hour and still had 40 minutes left. I knew if I said no to everything that I wouldn't be getting that hour, and she was damn cute, so I opted for the $ HJ. I did get to feel her up, and my god she has awesome tits.

I haven't been back because I know the wrong head would do the negotiating, and he doesn't have the best financial sense. But god she was cute.

Smokeey
11-28-13, 02:01
Is this her? I agree, tits look amazing, and there's no telling how much money she would get from me.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/i-love-love-what-i-do-hot-brazilian-jessica-22/25194341

Thanks for the info!Yep, that's her (or damn close if its not). I think the day I saw her she had her hair curled a bit. She was wearing these little pj short things and a tank top. Simply beautiful.

Smokeey

PearlZ176
11-28-13, 21:43
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-just-arrived-orient-massage-top-young-models-21/18043378

I was wondering if this place is worth visiting.

Any reviews are appreciated!

Thanks.

Slider42
11-29-13, 00:21
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-just-arrived-orient-massage-top-young-models-21/18043378

I was wondering if this place is worth visiting.

Any reviews are appreciated!

Thanks.That used to be my go-to place. Lately the massages are hardly massages but if you are there to run the bases and even slide into home plate then you will enjoy your trip.

IMO now just do the minimum and expect at least $ for more and $$ or more for home plate.

Slider42
11-29-13, 00:31
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-just-arrived-orient-massage-top-young-models-21/18043378

I was wondering if this place is worth visiting.

Any reviews are appreciated!

Thanks.That used to be my go-to place. Lately the massages are hardly massages but if you are there to run the bases and even slide into home plate then you will enjoy your trip.

IMO now just do the minimum and expect at least $ for more and $$ or more for home plate.

Diksargent
11-29-13, 18:26
That used to be my go-to place. Lately the massages are hardly massages but if you are there to run the bases and even slide into home plate then you will enjoy your trip.

IMO now just do the minimum and expect at least $ for more and $$ or more for home plate.That place used to have some younger talents, now all staff are much older, even some 40+ , and pics are all ripped from some other model website.

Member #5432
12-02-13, 16:54
Had a short lunch break and decided to try one of the AMPs on Scottsdale and Shea. This one advertises and is located at 105 in the plaza on the NE corner of Shea and Gold Dust. It is the one furthest south along the back end of the plaza. There are 2 others, and now wish I had tried one of them!

Was greeted by an ok looking, somewhat chubby Asian lady with a nice rack though. Said her name was Julia. Took back to a room, took $40 for a hhr. I gave her $ and when she returned left the change on the counter. I find that to be a convenient way of not having to get up half way through the massage to get the tip out. The massage was just a rub, but she did allow my hands to roam and on the flip shoved her tits in my face and teasingly let me suck on her nipple. But then when it came time to negotiate a tip, all she could do was rub her fingers together. There was .6 sitting on the counter, so it wasn't an issue about not having the money. When I said how much for a HJ she just said "ssshhhh" and kept rubbing her fingers together, then on and on I tried to get her to commit to something but she never said anything, so said I just wanted a massage. She pushed my hands off her and continued for another few minutes. When she said she was done, I had only been there 20 minutes. And said I still had 10 minutes. To go. She replied that my time taking my clothes off counted as part of my hhr!

I truly hate AMPs. Too much non-sense and bad service. There are 2 others in the same plaza so might eventually break down and try those, but I certainly won't be going back to 105.

RW.

DavePHX
12-06-13, 21:58
Probation officer suspected of running prostitution operation out of Chandler apartment.

Chan 3 video of outrage. You would think the massage parlor bushiness was a huge risk to neighborhood children and as serious as murder.

Really hyped media report for probably hand releases. And shocked neighbors on TV amazed something like this in their upper class community!

http://www.azfamily.com/news/County-employee-suspected-of-running-a-house-of-prositution-out-of-Chandler-apartment-234778431.html

This is separate from the large number of escort arrests the last few days. I've reported in much more detail in Private List alerts and the 3 boards they seemed to have targeted ads from. I mentioned Adam but didn't realize which incall he was related to until it hit the media tonight.

Jamesj
12-07-13, 01:05
Just wanted to mention how valuable the info you provide is.

Most of the time it is "bad "news", but it keeps us informed, fore warned and up to date on LE activity.

Thanks again & keep the repots flowing, good or bad.

JAMESJ.

Gold coast
12-18-13, 01:32
Well after years of trying to get something from one of the gals at Eastern spa in Chandler, she got cited for no license. She gave a very good legit massage that kept me coming back, but I was always hoping for more. I had heard of other people getting something from her, but was never able to. She went to California after the ordeal her so she could keep working. Then today I heard that the boss at Eastern who she lived with or used her address purposely didn't pass on the court notices to her and she missed her court date. Now she has a lot more legal problems here if she ever wants to come back to AZ. I think that is F*ed up of the boss to do that to someone who had many of us a regulars and had made a lot of money for her. I heard this 3rd or 4 rth hand so I don't know how true it is, but because of crap like this, I think me and my money will not be going back to Eastern or Luxury spa on the north side of the street from Eastern as I think they still have the same owner. Hope others will feel the same. There are plenty other Chandler AMPs where I can get a good legit massage when I need it.

Finaqua
12-18-13, 20:20
Well after years of trying to get something from one of the gals at Eastern spa in Chandler, she got cited for no license. She gave a very good legit massage that kept me coming back, but I was always hoping for more. I had heard of other people getting something from her, but was never able to. She went to California after the ordeal her so she could keep working. Then today I heard that the boss at Eastern who she lived with or used her address purposely didn't pass on the court notices to her and she missed her court date. Now she has a lot more legal problems here if she ever wants to come back to AZ. I think that is F*ed up of the boss to do that to someone who had many of us a regulars and had made a lot of money for her. I heard this 3rd or 4 rth hand so I don't know how true it is, but because of crap like this, I think me and my money will not be going back to Eastern or Luxury spa on the north side of the street from Eastern as I think they still have the same owner. Hope others will feel the same. There are plenty other Chandler AMPs where I can get a good legit massage when I need it.Thanks for the update.

FWIW, from my experience at least, all of these places have been legit. Eastern, Luxury, the one on Kyrene and Ray, Kyrene and Chandler Blvd, the one on Ray and McClintock. All basically offering either completely legit massage or, at best, a little teasing where they come close, but are very, very careful not to cross any line when it comes to touching in the wrong (right?) places. The massages are in the Fair to Good (never really great), but overall well worth the relatively inexpensive costs compared to resort prices.

BobDole7448
12-24-13, 02:09
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-just-arrived-orient-massage-top-young-models-21/18043378

I was wondering if this place is worth visiting.

Any reviews are appreciated!

Thanks.Hello, first post, yay! I've only been doing this for about two months, and lurking on this site for a couple weeks but figured I would jump in here. I have to agree with Slider on this one.

I've been three times over the past couple months and will probably go back at least one more time. The girl I saw was very sweet and made me feel like a king with a shower and a very decent massage the first time. Since then the massages have gotten shorter but she still treats me very nice. / shrug. I'm looking for someone that will come to me and charge maybe a little less, it's going to be about $$ for everything. The .7 to get in the door seems steep to me compared to other places I've seem but whatever.

Bubba1979
12-24-13, 15:46
Tried to hook up with the infamous "Mya" on Peoria, but alas she was busy. Ended up here... http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/get-a-cool-massage-with-hot-asians/22062235.

Bubba had actually "grazed" in this pasture before but I liked the cheap entry fee with coupon .35 for the half. (My blind Chinese Shaolin mentor "Chilly Willy" taught me well). Anyway, nothing special actually. Girl was semi good looking with decent english. Can't remember her name for some reason. Anyway, 30 seconds of massaging and Bubba was on her like ugly on an ape. I flipped and she started her duties. I did my best to maul her but she fought me off with great intensity. I was concentrating on the antlers and she kept pushing me away saying "that hurt..that hurt". It was starting to break my concentration a little, but Ol Bubba finished his duties in fine fashion. My lovely masseuse commented that I actually took a long time and that her arm was tired...bear in mind that is was literally 45 seconds from start to finish. Long story short, I probably won't be back, but in the mongering business never say never! I had laid out .5 due to lack of change...She grunted disapprovingly and said bring more next time...Ya..right.

Bubba1979
12-24-13, 15:53
http://www.thehealingartsdayspa.com/contact.html

I realize this place is legit, but had an interesting experience that I shant post about. Was wondering if anyone else might feel the same way?

Member #5470
12-25-13, 18:35
http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-girls-just-arrived-orient-massage-top-young-models-21/18043378

I was wondering if this place is worth visiting.

Any reviews are appreciated!

Thanks.I have had some really wonderful experiences at this place. Of course, the girls rotate fairly frequently and you can't always guarantee that the person will be there 3.

Months later.

One of my first experiences there--before I decided to ditch the no acts involving penetration--was a hot looking provider who straddled me with a condom in hand saying, "I want to rape you." I kick myself for being such a prude so many years ago. What an exciting experience that would have been if I weren't so focused on avoiding sex.

It's been a while since I have been there, but every experience has been decent or good. If you don't care for the person who greets you at the window, just ask to see.

Who else is working.

Happy Mongering!

Aoxox
12-26-13, 13:32
Hello, first post, yay! I've only been doing this for about two months, and lurking on this site for a couple weeks but figured I would jump in here. I have to agree with Slider on this one.

I've been three times over the past couple months and will probably go back at least one more time. The girl I saw was very sweet and made me feel like a king with a shower and a very decent massage the first time. Since then the massages have gotten shorter but she still treats me very nice. / shrug. I'm looking for someone that will come to me and charge maybe a little less, it's going to be about $$ for everything. The .7 to get in the door seems steep to me compared to other places I've seem but whatever.Is this a Korean MP or Chinese MP?

ThomasT1964
12-26-13, 18:13
Is this a Korean MP or Chinese MP?It is Korean. The big advantage of this place is how late it is open.

GoodOldMonger
01-05-14, 16:56
This Carrie is in Chandler and visiting from California. She is running a special of 1.5 hours for $. Including tip. 1 hour for .8. She is not a gal that I would normally get anything but a HJ, but her massage is one of the best I have ever had. She gave me the full hour and a half and actually went over 15 minutes. No extra charge. The massage was so good and the teasing so good that I enjoyed a very happy, no rush, HJ ending. She is not a beautiful girl, but she really makes up for it with the attention she gives to you. Oil rub down and hot towel full-body clean up. Don't rush her and just let her do her thing and you will be rewarded.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/experienced-therapist-offers-stress-and-pain-relief/26140896

Paladium
01-06-14, 10:54
http://www.thehealingartsdayspa.com/contact.html

I realize this place is legit, but had an interesting experience that I shant post about. Was wondering if anyone else might feel the same way?Not sure I get your drift, but if I go check it out, who should I ask for?

Rocket Dork
01-06-14, 14:20
I need help finding a massage parlor. I coming from Chicago (20 below) next week. There is a massage parlor on Thomas (I believe). The rates are 20 bucks for 30 minutes (HJ is the only extra available). The women are older and not really good looking but I go there every year but can not remember the name but think its by 16th street. I have tried repeatedly googling it but can't find it. Thanks Rocket Dork.

Stomp2
01-07-14, 11:16
Tried to hook up with the infamous "Mya" on Peoria, but alas she was busy. Ended up here... http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/get-a-cool-massage-with-hot-asians/22062235.

Bubba had actually "grazed" in this pasture before but I liked the cheap entry fee with coupon .35 for the half. (My blind Chinese Shaolin mentor "Chilly Willy" taught me well). Anyway, nothing special actually. Girl was semi good looking with decent english. Can't remember her name for some reason. Anyway, 30 seconds of massaging and Bubba was on her like ugly on an ape. I flipped and she started her duties. I did my best to maul her but she fought me off with great intensity. I was concentrating on the antlers and she kept pushing me away saying "that hurt..that hurt". It was starting to break my concentration a little, but Ol Bubba finished his duties in fine fashion. My lovely masseuse commented that I actually took a long time and that her arm was tired...bear in mind that is was literally 45 seconds from start to finish. Long story short, I probably won't be back, but in the mongering business never say never! I had laid out .5 due to lack of change...She grunted disapprovingly and said bring more next time...Ya..right.Maybe USA Sex Guide should have a "Like" button like Facebook. I always like Bubba's posts!

Bubba1979
01-08-14, 16:52
Well, someone once said, "You can never go home again." So true. At least in this case. May I present Eastern Spa on Ray and Rural.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/thp/4276434712.html

Long story short, this place holds a special place in Ol Bubba's heart as it was here that a "hatchling" monger first got his wings and began to fly. I was hoping with increased competition near by (Golden Spa on Elliot) that Ol Bubba might find a more compliant masseuse willing to do my bidding. But alas, it was not the case, if anything it was more sterile than ever. This place at least used to tease you, but it was not to be. I could have sworn I was at Massage envy if not for the broken English and ever present smell of rice steaming. So, there you have it. Lesson learned...This is one stream that Ol Bubba will not be swimming up to spawn again.

Slacker30
01-12-14, 01:10
I need help finding a massage parlor. I coming from Chicago (20 below) next week. There is a massage parlor on Thomas (I believe). The rates are 20 bucks for 30 minutes (HJ is the only extra available). The women are older and not really good looking but I go there every year but can not remember the name but think its by 16th street. I have tried repeatedly googling it but can't find it. Thanks Rocket Dork.I believe that is the place you are referring to, on North 16th Street 1 block north of Oak. You have many more options here if you backtrack a few months on this section.

Finaqua
01-12-14, 11:58
Well, someone once said, "You can never go home again." So true. At least in this case. May I present Eastern Spa on Ray and Rural.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/thp/4276434712.html

Long story short, this place holds a special place in Ol Bubba's heart as it was here that a "hatchling" monger first got his wings and began to fly. I was hoping with increased competition near by (Golden Spa on Elliot) that Ol Bubba might find a more compliant masseuse willing to do my bidding. But alas, it was not the case, if anything it was more sterile than ever. This place at least used to tease you, but it was not to be. I could have sworn I was at Massage envy if not for the broken English and ever present smell of rice steaming. So, there you have it. Lesson learned...This is one stream that Ol Bubba will not be swimming up to spawn again.Bubba, any more insight you can provide for Healing Arts?

AubreyRose
01-12-14, 14:21
Hey gents, I've been working in Sun City area for a couple months now, and as I love all the clients I have seen, I'm wondering if theres any spas you might favor more so the ones I have already worked at.

Its always best to get a connoisseur's opinion!

Riffraff26
01-12-14, 17:19
Anyone been to Aztec in a while? What's the scenery like currently?

DavePHX
01-12-14, 23:34
Hey gents, I've been working in Sun City area for a couple months now, and as I love all the clients I have seen, I'm wondering if theres any spas you might favor more so the ones I have already worked at.
Its always best to get a connoisseur's opinion!You seem to have a lot of service options from escort to massage to strip clubs (and in Denver and Anchorage).

Sun City I suspect is mostly older often retired clients which good you like (if so). But probably not high volume and there is some competition in the area. It is too far for many of us within Phoenix and lots of the massage activity is opposite South-SE side.

The legal issues however are significant especially the dumb way most massage parlors operate which is an easy felony prostitution bust as we have seen with many massage places. Not to mention of course you need a Arizona State massage license with the training etc for any massage.

To avoid some legal issues. Like 10 year potential prison time. Never have to discuss or negotiate anything more than a massage, secret hand signals, codes etc do not work and are well known by LE. Giving a hand job is a serious huge legal issue vs child abuse that goes unresolved yet SWAT teams with lots of weaponry may attack a massage parlor for women armed with dangerous breasts and a hand that does jobs.

The safest way to offer massage is never include anything sexual in ads or when meet or talk on phone, or at the table. Offer 1-hour of sensual massage for like $140 and advertise in as discrete places (hard to find but not of course BP or TER). In Phoenix you can not pay for anything sexual or if other than just yourself subject to a serious felony with potential long prison term.

Strip clubs so far have been relatively safe amazingly without recent enforcement of the severe restrictions passed in 1999.

Daddio1542
01-13-14, 07:24
Hey gents, I've been working in Sun City area for a couple months now, and as I love all the clients I have seen, I'm wondering if theres any spas you might favor more so the ones I have already worked at.

Its always best to get a connoisseur's opinion!In Sun City, I've been to most of them. Paradise on Burns / Bell is nice as is the one on SE corner of Grand /99th avenue. Another one that is no longer operating because it got busted was on 103rd / Grand. I liked that one because it was more discreet.

Let me know when and where you're working and I'll come for a visit. I own a business in Sun City and get out to the spas as often as I can.

Gold coast
01-14-14, 01:09
Well, someone once said, "You can never go home again." So true. At least in this case. May I present Eastern Spa on Ray and Rural.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/thp/4276434712.html

Long story short, this place holds a special place in Ol Bubba's heart as it was here that a "hatchling" monger first got his wings and began to fly. I was hoping with increased competition near by (Golden Spa on Elliot) that Ol Bubba might find a more compliant masseuse willing to do my bidding. But alas, it was not the case, if anything it was more sterile than ever. This place at least used to tease you, but it was not to be. I could have sworn I was at Massage envy if not for the broken English and ever present smell of rice steaming. So, there you have it. Lesson learned...This is one stream that Ol Bubba will not be swimming up to spawn again.I too have some great memories of Eastern and her other places, but like your experiences, they are just memories. Anything recent there has been very dry to the typical Chandler AMP tease (tease you just enough to get a tip and come back thinking you might get lucky but you rarely do). You spend more money getting teased on multiple visits than you would getting a better massage with a good ending at some other nearby locations if you know where to go.

UaTem
01-14-14, 20:56
Anyone been to Aztec in a while? What's the scenery like currently?I've driven by a half dozen times in the last month, and there has been a 'back in..." clock sign on the front door. Sometimes it's been an hour, sometimes 4. Never seen a car there. Times have been from early afternoon to late evening.

AmanteDeLatina
01-15-14, 16:26
I was wondering if anyone on here knows of any LMT's (Licensed Massage Therapists) or CMT's (Certified Massage Therapists) that do a real massage the correct way and maybe fuse in a few of the sensual elements? Maybe a female masseuse that uses an eclectical approach employing different modalities along with a sensual twist with extras available? I am having some back problems so I would like someone to attend to that in the proper way but maybe on the side do some sensual stuff? Does anyone know of any LMT's or CMT's that do this?

DavePHX
01-15-14, 17:19
I was wondering if anyone on here knows of any LMT's (Licensed Massage Therapists) or CMT's (Certified Massage Therapists) that do a real massage the correct way and maybe fuse in a few of the sensual elements? Maybe a female masseuse that uses an eclectical approach employing different modalities along with a sensual twist with extras available? I am having some back problems so I would like someone to attend to that in the proper way but maybe on the side do some sensual stuff? Does anyone know of any LMT's or CMT's that do this?For decades I have had a really good deep muscle therapist that does wonderful when tight neck muscles give headache. She works on athletes and various modalies. But totally non-sensual. She supports sex works know of all my interests including Canada just she chooses not to do anything sexual so no risk to LMT license etc. Great women but only for real professional massage. She doesn't want to be named on "this kind" of site but happy to provide info privately.

Stomp2
01-16-14, 20:39
I wondering if anyone has visited the OK Spa located on Broadway east of Dobson in Mesa? I have passed by that place for the past few years on my way home from work and have not heard anything mentioned about it on this site.

AmanteDeLatina
01-17-14, 13:54
I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this one:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/andhearts-natalie-andhearts-lmt-available-now-andhearts-23/26407146

Riffraff26
01-17-14, 23:52
I was wondering if anyone on here knows of any LMT's (Licensed Massage Therapists) or CMT's (Certified Massage Therapists) that do a real massage the correct way and maybe fuse in a few of the sensual elements? Maybe a female masseuse that uses an eclectical approach employing different modalities along with a sensual twist with extras available? I am having some back problems so I would like someone to attend to that in the proper way but maybe on the side do some sensual stuff? Does anyone know of any LMT's or CMT's that do this?One of my favorites is Vanessa. She works out of Oasis (I-10 & Elliott). I don't know if she's a full LMT, but she seems like it. She gives a good real massage, finds the knots, then does a great job unwinding you at the end.

Stomp2
01-18-14, 00:18
I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this one:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/andhearts-natalie-andhearts-lmt-available-now-andhearts-23/26407146That is one I have been eyeing. If she did incall she would be worth a try.

Bubba1979
01-19-14, 17:12
Well, Ol Bubba was up in Scottsdale "hobnobbing" at Barrett Jackson and generally enjoying the fine weather. After purchasing my Red Ferrari (ala Magnum P.I). I hopped in and took a little trip down to Via Linda to try out the legendary Prostate expert Mimi.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oriental-asian-girl-body-rubdown-two-locations-in-scottsdale-arizona-26/24208914

Ol Bubba had heard tell that Mimi was quite the "Prostate Prospector" so to speak, and had to my beak. I was greeted by Mimi, she looked to be in her forties and was about a 4 on a scale of one to ten. She had a different look than most, darker, almost like a Montagnard back in the Nam. Anyway, I wasnt there for her looks.on to the room we went. Entry fee was .5 for 45 minutes. Because of her alleged skills I left .6 on the dresser not wanting to interrupt my session with bargaining. In hind sight this was not necessary, I don't think she would have complained about .4.

First and foremost the massage was simply fantastic. Excellent technique and very quiet in her work. Interestedly, the massage room was adjacent to a Chinese restaurant next door. It was Karaoke night so Ol Bubba and Mimi were "serenaded" by some interesting songsters. If one of you mongers were there singing, I would say don't give up your day job...But, I digress. Anywho, I was starting to get concerned about 30 minutes into the massage when nothing sensual was happening. The old familiar panic of the legitimate massage started creeping in like San Francisco fog. Luckily about that time is when it started. While still on my stomach Mimi jumped on on the table and reverse straddled me with legs coming up along my sides. She then started digging underneath and played with the boys and little Bubba. I raised up a little allowing my little friend better access. It was reminiscent of a Kitten's pa underneath the door grasping at yarn.. Anyway, at this point she started "probing" and milking simultaneously. Very pleasurable. After 10 minutes or so, Ol Bubba was asked to flip over and face the music. Mimi stayed in the same position sitting facing me at the end of the table. From this distance you couldn't touch her, but this had more of a clinical feel anyway. So, Mimi continued on with the same Milking and tugging until the "bottle rocket" took off into the air with all of Bubba's pent up tension. It was quite an interesting feel and sensation.

A quick clean up and Bubba was out to the parking lot, hopping in the Red Ferrari...Sipping on a Hawaiian Primo beer..and going to meet Rick and T.see. At the Beach club... Aloha.

TylerPerelli
01-20-14, 00:39
I've driven by a half dozen times in the last month, and there has been a 'back in..." clock sign on the front door. Sometimes it's been an hour, sometimes 4. Never seen a car there. Times have been from early afternoon to late evening.Stopped a few days back and the door was locked. Called a while later and no answer (IIRC busy signal).

Hoping they are short staffed with everyone busy at the times we've stopped.

Reallly Bored
01-20-14, 03:01
Well, Ol Bubba was up in Scottsdale "hobnobbing" at Barrett Jackson and generally enjoying the fine weather. After purchasing my Red Ferrari (ala Magnum P.I). I hopped in and took a little trip down to Via Linda to try out the legendary Prostate expert Mimi.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oriental-asian-girl-body-rubdown-two-locations-in-scottsdale-arizona-26/24208914

Ol Bubba had heard tell that Mimi was quite the "Prostate Prospector" so to speak, and had to my beak. I was greeted by Mimi, she looked to be in her forties and was about a 4 on a scale of one to ten. She had a different look than most, darker, almost like a Montagnard back in the Nam. Anyway, I wasnt there for her looks.on to the room we went. Entry fee was .5 for 45 minutes. Because of her alleged skills I left .6 on the dresser not wanting to interrupt my session with bargaining. In hind sight this was not necessary, I don't think she would have complained about .4.

First and foremost the massage was simply fantastic. Excellent technique and very quiet in her work. Interestedly, the massage room was adjacent to a Chinese restaurant next door. It was Karaoke night so Ol Bubba and Mimi were "serenaded" by some interesting songsters. If one of you mongers were there singing, I would say don't give up your day job...But, I digress. Anywho, I was starting to get concerned about 30 minutes into the massage when nothing sensual was happening. The old familiar panic of the legitimate massage started creeping in like San Francisco fog. Luckily about that time is when it started. While still on my stomach Mimi jumped on on the table and reverse straddled me with legs coming up along my sides. She then started digging underneath and played with the boys and little Bubba. I raised up a little allowing my little friend better access. It was reminiscent of a Kitten's pa underneath the door grasping at yarn.. Anyway, at this point she started "probing" and milking simultaneously. Very pleasurable. After 10 minutes or so, Ol Bubba was asked to flip over and face the music. Mimi stayed in the same position sitting facing me at the end of the table. From this distance you couldn't touch her, but this had more of a clinical feel anyway. So, Mimi continued on with the same Milking and tugging until the "bottle rocket" took off into the air with all of Bubba's pent up tension. It was quite an interesting feel and sensation.

A quick clean up and Bubba was out to the parking lot, hopping in the Red Ferrari...Sipping on a Hawaiian Primo beer..and going to meet Rick and T.see. At the Beach club... Aloha.Careful, Higgins is looking for you.

Finaqua
01-20-14, 19:55
Well, Ol Bubba was up in Scottsdale "hobnobbing" at Barrett Jackson and generally enjoying the fine weather. After purchasing my Red Ferrari (ala Magnum P.I). I hopped in and took a little trip down to Via Linda to try out the legendary Prostate expert Mimi.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/oriental-asian-girl-body-rubdown-two-locations-in-scottsdale-arizona-26/24208914

Ol Bubba had heard tell that Mimi was quite the "Prostate Prospector" so to speak, and had to my beak. I was greeted by Mimi, she looked to be in her forties and was about a 4 on a scale of one to ten. She had a different look than most, darker, almost like a Montagnard back in the Nam. Anyway, I wasnt there for her looks.on to the room we went. Entry fee was .5 for 45 minutes. Because of her alleged skills I left .6 on the dresser not wanting to interrupt my session with bargaining. In hind sight this was not necessary, I don't think she would have complained about .4.

First and foremost the massage was simply fantastic. Excellent technique and very quiet in her work. Interestedly, the massage room was adjacent to a Chinese restaurant next door. It was Karaoke night so Ol Bubba and Mimi were "serenaded" by some interesting songsters. If one of you mongers were there singing, I would say don't give up your day job...But, I digress. Anywho, I was starting to get concerned about 30 minutes into the massage when nothing sensual was happening. The old familiar panic of the legitimate massage started creeping in like San Francisco fog. Luckily about that time is when it started. While still on my stomach Mimi jumped on on the table and reverse straddled me with legs coming up along my sides. She then started digging underneath and played with the boys and little Bubba. I raised up a little allowing my little friend better access. It was reminiscent of a Kitten's pa underneath the door grasping at yarn.. Anyway, at this point she started "probing" and milking simultaneously. Very pleasurable. After 10 minutes or so, Ol Bubba was asked to flip over and face the music. Mimi stayed in the same position sitting facing me at the end of the table. From this distance you couldn't touch her, but this had more of a clinical feel anyway. So, Mimi continued on with the same Milking and tugging until the "bottle rocket" took off into the air with all of Bubba's pent up tension. It was quite an interesting feel and sensation.

A quick clean up and Bubba was out to the parking lot, hopping in the Red Ferrari...Sipping on a Hawaiian Primo beer..and going to meet Rick and T.see. At the Beach club... Aloha."The old familiar panic of the legitimate massage started creeping in like San Francisco fog.".

LMAO You are so damn funny!

BTW, Is it just me or does anyone else find the walk out the door back to the car a bit awkward?

Stomp2
01-21-14, 10:34
"The old familiar panic of the legitimate massage started creeping in like San Francisco fog.".

LMAO You are so damn funny!

BTW, Is it just me or does anyone else find the walk out the door back to the car a bit awkward?Know what you mean! I was always afraid of running into someone I knew on the way out and trying to explain my reason for being there!

Night Flh
01-21-14, 15:08
I have been to the Tokyo Spa in glendale, ok time with Amy but not great either. Also gone to Geisha Spa in glendale I have seen about 4 different provide over a course of 4 weeks, wasted money. The providers don't last long there. Ok so I thought I give backpage a go at it. Meet up with a little Latin spinner, I had a goodtime so I called the other day and she left town. I am thinking about building model planes.

TennisPlyr
01-21-14, 19:17
I have been to the Tokyo Spa in glendale, ok time with Amy but not great either. Also gone to Geisha Spa in glendale I have seen about 4 different provide over a course of 4 weeks, wasted money. The providers don't last long there. Ok so I thought I give backpage a go at it. Meet up with a little Latin spinner, I had a goodtime so I called the other day and she left town. I am thinking about building model planes.If you like thick latinas, I suggest seeing mya at her place. Type mya in the adult entertainment section of BP and her ad will pop up. She is reviewed on here.

Az Dude
01-22-14, 01:03
If you like thick latinas, I suggest seeing mya at her place. Type mya in the adult entertainment section of BP and her ad will pop up. She is reviewed on here.Highly recommended! Very enthusiastic She's got some bangin curves if you're into that.

Rocknroll702
01-22-14, 02:03
If you like thick latinas, I suggest seeing mya at her place. Type mya in the adult entertainment section of BP and her ad will pop up. She is reviewed on here.I've seen Mya several times...she's definitely a winner! Very accommodating and a lot of fun! Oh yeah!

PMaxP
01-23-14, 08:04
http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/xx-sisters-xx-double-your-stress-relief/26394030

Has anyone given these sisters a go? Milfy types are awesome.

Night Flh
01-23-14, 12:56
I've seen Mya several times...she's definitely a winner! Very accommodating and a lot of fun! Oh yeah!I been wanting go see her but it hard to find the time. I am on a tight leash.