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DavePHX
05-22-17, 18:12
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StopIt
05-23-17, 03:38
Can't pay attention to this gibberish. They would have never bought the place if they weren't guaranteed the liquor license. This is just plain common sense. They will open this summer and liquor will be served. Bank on it.From what I understand, the Z family bought it on a contingency. The sale is not official yet. They wrote a contract which states that the Z family agrees to pay a certain sum if they are granted a liquor license. If they do not get the license, the sale is null and void.

Deboinair
05-23-17, 12:20
From what I understand, the Z family bought it on a contingency. The sale is not official yet. They wrote a contract which states that the Z family agrees to pay a certain sum if they are granted a liquor license. If they do not get the license, the sale is null and void.I see. That sounds logical. The word on the street is that they bought it and will open in July. Thanks for the more in depth detail.

Deboinair
05-24-17, 22:36
Yep this is AZ not FL. Been from coast to coast. Know this stuff. Sorry to see you take off on my post as you have made some good contributions. Please reread the second sentence of my post. My intention was to address mongers who sit in clubs and make notes about infractions and report those infractions. But yes, in AZ we have to be more discreet than FL. You can still have a great time here.
Have fun & relax
DN.

I was just using FL as an example. If you look at any other city forum, way more detail. Even in the bible belt states. My post is geared to anybody that wants to censor posts. It's not just you, but there are few posters with the boogeyman scary posts. Don't scan your I'd and posting laws of AZ. Dave Phx is the main guy. I like how A2 the admin handled it though. You are supposed to be reporting about strip clubs and action, not laws and other things that don't contribute to that. A2 is the one that decides what is "too much". I think sometimes when there are a few posters who frequent in a forum, they like to dictate things like they run forum.

It's the few of you guys that are discreet. Others like Hambone have posted some kick ass reports, but here comes the boogeyman posts "Don't say that, you're going to get the club in trouble" . Clubs are not getting shut down because of posts. City officials balk but in the same token get kick backs from these clubs. The ones who pay the most, get hassled the less. I don't see him and another poster whose name I forget posting anymore. You guys are scaring them away and it needs to stop.

I'm just saying if the admin doesn't have a problem with it, nobody else should.

Admin2
05-25-17, 00:06
This thread is about what's happening in strip clubs as it pertains to guys sticking their dicks in chicks.

If one of you seniors wants to start a thread about legal issues as they pertain to the strip clubs in PHX help yourself.

I'm sorry Dave got butthurt but he was miles over the line and I had to do something, that's what I get paid for.

He either will or will not return, his choice.

Lets get this on pussy and seriously, if the legal stuff is a big issue start a blog.

A2

Hambone78
05-25-17, 00:25
I was just using FL as an example. If you look at any other city forum, way more detail. Even in the bible belt states. My post is geared to anybody that wants to censor posts. It's not just you, but there are few posters with the boogeyman scary posts. Don't scan your I'd and posting laws of AZ. Dave Phx is the main guy. I like how A2 the admin handled it though. You are supposed to be reporting about strip clubs and action, not laws and other things that don't contribute to that. A2 is the one that decides what is "too much". I think sometimes when there are a few posters who frequent in a forum, they like to dictate things like they run forum.

It's the few of you guys that are discreet. Others like Hambone have posted some kick ass reports, but here comes the boogeyman posts "Don't say that, you're going to get the club in trouble" . Clubs are not getting shut down because of posts. City officials balk but in the same token get kick backs from these clubs. The ones who pay the most, get hassled the less. I don't see him and another poster whose name I forget posting anymore. You guys are scaring them away and it needs to stop.

I'm just saying if the admin doesn't have a problem with it, nobody else should.Thanks for the love, Deboinair! I haven't been posting lately because I am broke and have 2 kids (No disposable income right now! I've been craving some club action like you wouldn't believe!

Deboinair
05-25-17, 16:05
Thanks for the love, Deboinair! I haven't been posting lately because I am broke and have 2 kids (No disposable income right now! I've been craving some club action like you wouldn't believe!Whoa. Look what the storm brought in. Ha ha. Hey you are taking care of your responsibilities (kids) clearly understandable. You have some really great informative posts. We need more posters like you in here. I went back to Miami for a visit. Whenever you can save up. It's worth the trip to the clubs. I've been going to Chicas mostly not much happening. A month ago there was a dancer named Izzy. Beautiful black Honduran girl. I love how this place gets the exotic ones. She doesn't work there anymore, but I am so happy got OTC for $$ with her. Worth every dime. Recently there was a Mexican girl, don't remember her name but she doesn't look Mexican. Very tall like 5'7, looks like a white girl but in a exotic way if that makes sense. LOL She's from Cali. Got some good dances with her lets you get really touchy with her also. Got contact info and she said she won't be back till June. Other than that I haven't seen any knock outs. But there are a few cute ones.

Azartz
05-25-17, 21:56
Going to be in Phoenix this weekend for a friends birthday. Wanted to find out if there are any recommendations on what clubs are best in the Phoenix area? Best looking girls and any particular clubs that allow any extras in VIP? Our friend has never been to a strip club so I got to give me a good showing!

Thanks!

Heel Lover
05-26-17, 21:01
Going to be in Phoenix this weekend for a friends birthday. Wanted to find out if there are any recommendations on what clubs are best in the Phoenix area? Best looking girls and any particular clubs that allow any extras in VIP? Our friend has never been to a strip club so I got to give me a good showing!

Thanks!Not sure what part of phoenix you're staying in. If you'll be in east even central phx 4 of the worst clubs near phx do a lot of advertising everywhere. They stay open by ripping off tourists (and 18-20 year olds in the case of all nude dream palace).

Stay away from (scottsdale) clubs 1. Skin and 2. Bones, Tempe clubs 1. Dream palace (worst club in the state) and 2. Elite (I believe same owners as Dream Palace.

I have posted this before and usually only post before the states "busy times", busy season; but don't want to have a guy have a terrible birthday haha.

There are a lot of cool clubs in phx, but everyone's opinion of prettiest / best club varies. Bourbon Street around 24th street and Thomas has beautiful dancers, but I don't frequent it much due to some of the dancers' attitudes towards a middle of the road (definitely not homeless, definitely not rich) hard working guy like myself.

Also, it's not really a great place in my opinion for a large group unless you're loaded with cash. (see previous recent post in the forum regarding money they wanted for a bachelor party).

Hope this helps a bit. The clubs here are really slow right now due to the heat and time of year. A lot of people will probably head out of town this weekend also. So whatever club you choose should treat you and your friends well! They should be thankful for the business.

NightFlh
05-28-17, 09:02
Does anybody have any information on this club? I have been in there look promising but not sure. Fox's use to be my go to but it been closed for a while now.

Heel Lover
05-29-17, 11:28
Need some advice. PM is ok and welcome especially if other recommendations are given haha. But here's the upcoming question.

Anyway I've gone to HiLiter 3 times with my wife since January (never been in before this year due to pretty far from my house) and always had fun. Of course I'm used to clubs and not a big deal to me. Here's the question?

We are taking my very shy friend (if he doesn't back out haha) here the next weekend or two (sat) and I'm obviously not a "regular".

I would like to get him at least one dance (regular floor, not VIP it would be too much for him haha) from one of my favorites kimberly when going.

Would it be better to ask the bouncer who seats us if she's working (and I don't care about tipping him a five or whatever but am not a "high roller" obviously) or just stick with who I usually ask in in other clubs-the waitress? Not used to greeting a bouncer at the door and being seated by them. It even throws me (going to strip clubs for over 20 years) off a bit.

Kimberly was not there a couple of weekends ago when we went (just my wife and I and we didn't ask if she was working) and we still had fun because we are used to clubs. But she had such an awesome personality the time before when we saw her, that I know she would be perfect for my friend.

Don't want to seem like wanting to get a shit load of dances (can't afford that), but don't want bouncer bothering us either (my friend is not going to do anything at all unless dancer tells him it's ok). And there are so many girls, it's difficult to just see if she shows up kind of thing.

Maybe I'm overthinking it and obviously it will be my friends first time here at Hiliter. He may be overwhelmed from the start because he is a super nice guy and He has only been to desert flame with us before-last year- and I pretty much knew everyone there. But with all the drama there last year, I had to call it quits after many many years.

Thanks in advance fellow strip club enthusiasts!!

Deboinair
05-29-17, 14:57
Need some advice. PM is ok and welcome especially if other recommendations are given haha. But here's the upcoming question.

Anyway I've gone to HiLiter 3 times with my wife since January (never been in before this year due to pretty far from my house) and always had fun. Of course I'm used to clubs and not a big deal to me. Here's the question?

We are taking my very shy friend (if he doesn't back out haha) here the next weekend or two (sat) and I'm obviously not a "regular".

I would like to get him at least one dance (regular floor, not VIP it would be too much for him haha) from one of my favorites kimberly when going.

Would it be better to ask the bouncer who seats us if she's working (and I don't care about tipping him a five or whatever but am not a "high roller" obviously) or just stick with who I usually ask in in other clubs-the waitress? Not used to greeting a bouncer at the door and being seated by them. It even throws me (going to strip clubs for over 20 years) off a bit.

Kimberly was not there a couple of weekends ago when we went (just my wife and I and we didn't ask if she was working) and we still had fun because we are used to clubs. But she had such an awesome personality the time before when we saw her, that I know she would be perfect for my friend.

Don't want to seem like wanting to get a shit load of dances (can't afford that), but don't want bouncer bothering us either (my friend is not going to do anything at all unless dancer tells him it's ok). And there are so many girls, it's difficult to just see if she shows up kind of thing.

Maybe I'm overthinking it and obviously it will be my friends first time here at Hiliter. He may be overwhelmed from the start because he is a super nice guy and He has only been to desert flame with us before-last year- and I pretty much knew everyone there. But with all the drama there last year, I had to call it quits after many many years.

Thanks in advance fellow strip club enthusiasts!!Why would you need somebody to PM you this info? You guys in AZ are way too scary. LOL It's simple. Bouncers are your best friend. I notice they don't get tipped a lot out here and they are very thankful when you do. I always get a rapport with all the staff in clubs. If I go to a club frequently. I tip the staff that are good to me especially the bouncers. Rules bend when you tip the staff. All you have to do at the door is shake the bouncer's hand with a $5 in your hand and ask is Kimberly working today. Even if she isn't it's a good rapport. You could call up there and ask first since you live far away. But still tip the bouncer the five and tell him who you are looking for. He'll guide you to her. Most dancers are happy with at least two floor dances. That should be the minimum you do.

I'd go for Annabella also. She gives good dances.

WineX
05-29-17, 15:59
Need some advice. PM is ok and welcome especially if other recommendations are given haha. But here's the upcoming question.

Anyway I've gone to HiLiter 3 times with my wife since January (never been in before this year due to pretty far from my house) and always had fun. Of course I'm used to clubs and not a big deal to me. Here's the question?

We are taking my very shy friend (if he doesn't back out haha) here the next weekend or two (sat) and I'm obviously not a "regular".

I would like to get him at least one dance (regular floor, not VIP it would be too much for him haha) from one of my favorites kimberly when going.

Would it be better to ask the bouncer who seats us if she's working (and I don't care about tipping him a five or whatever but am not a "high roller" obviously) or just stick with who I usually ask in in other clubs-the waitress? Not used to greeting a bouncer at the door and being seated by them. It even throws me (going to strip clubs for over 20 years) off a bit.

Kimberly was not there a couple of weekends ago when we went (just my wife and I and we didn't ask if she was working) and we still had fun because we are used to clubs. But she had such an awesome personality the time before when we saw her, that I know she would be perfect for my friend.

Don't want to seem like wanting to get a shit load of dances (can't afford that), but don't want bouncer bothering us either (my friend is not going to do anything at all unless dancer tells him it's ok). And there are so many girls, it's difficult to just see if she shows up kind of thing.

Maybe I'm overthinking it and obviously it will be my friends first time here at Hiliter. He may be overwhelmed from the start because he is a super nice guy and He has only been to desert flame with us before-last year- and I pretty much knew everyone there. But with all the drama there last year, I had to call it quits after many many years.

Thanks in advance fellow strip club enthusiasts!!A couple of suggestions:

First, if you meet a dancer who you like and want to see again, the easiest way to find out when and where she works is simply to ask her. (a lot of girls work at more than one club, which is why I mentioned the "where" part.).

If you don't have a chance to do that before you go with your friend, the best bet is to try to show up on the same day of the week at the same time as you did when you first met the girl you are interested in. Success with that method can vary widely depending on the girl. Some dancers treat dancing like a business and have regular and predictable schedules. Of course all too many dancers are anything but regular or predictable.

Finally, you can always call the club on the day you are interested in making a visit and see if the dancer you are interested in is working that day.

Always remember that dancers only get paid when they are dancing for a customer. It is in their interest to be make themselves easy to find. It isn't like you are stalking them. Of just enjoy spending time (and money) with them.

Heel Lover
05-29-17, 17:38
Why would you need somebody to PM you this info? You guys in AZ are way too scary. LOL It's simple. Bouncers are your best friend. I notice they don't get tipped a lot out here and they are very thankful when you do. I always get a rapport with all the staff in clubs. If I go to a club frequently. I tip the staff that are good to me especially the bouncers. Rules bend when you tip the staff. All you have to do at the door is shake the bouncer's hand with a $5 in your hand and ask is Kimberly working today. Even if she isn't it's a good rapport. You could call up there and ask first since you live far away. But still tip the bouncer the five and tell him who you are looking for. He'll guide you to her. Most dancers are happy with at least two floor dances. That should be the minimum you do.

I'd go for Annabella also. She gives good dances.The pm thing was just more of a tongue in cheek thing haha. Like if someone wanted to give me a list of their top 5 and be super duper secretive about it haha. There was really no need for it, just felt like putting it out there.

But you did answer my question and I think it was a great answer. Thanks! I am not used to interacting much with bouncers at clubs other than when leaving (if they say have a good night or whatever). I usually arrive right before cover starts so avoid any bouncer chat etc at most clubs, but I found out hiliter is different with the bouncer seating you thing.

The guy who has greeted us has been cool all three times-i think different guys all three times- last time cracked me up because he carded my wife, but not me (we are the same age). That has happened before at a music venue, but that was about 5 years ago (my wife does look much younger than her / our age).

And I have seen katana, ruby, kimberly and butterfly (the names I remember). And yes would probably get 3 dances if kimberly was there-one each for me, my friend and my wife. Heck maybe 4, two for my friend as it will be his first time!

Going to look for Annabella too, thanks again for the info!

Deboinair
05-29-17, 18:47
The pm thing was just more of a tongue in cheek thing haha. Like if someone wanted to give me a list of their top 5 and be super duper secretive about it haha. There was really no need for it, just felt like putting it out there.

But you did answer my question and I think it was a great answer. Thanks! I am not used to interacting much with bouncers at clubs other than when leaving (if they say have a good night or whatever). I usually arrive right before cover starts so avoid any bouncer chat etc at most clubs, but I found out hiliter is different with the bouncer seating you thing.

The guy who has greeted us has been cool all three times-i think different guys all three times- last time cracked me up because he carded my wife, but not me (we are the same age). That has happened before at a music venue, but that was about 5 years ago (my wife does look much younger than her / our age).

And I have seen katana, ruby, kimberly and butterfly (the names I remember). And yes would probably get 3 dances if kimberly was there-one each for me, my friend and my wife. Heck maybe 4, two for my friend as it will be his first time!

Going to look for Annabella too, thanks again for the info!That's what this board is for. Getting good info! Happy I can help. I only use PM for the "dirty details". These dancers are for everybody and it's sad when guys think they are keeping them to their self. lol I learned the bouncer trick when I first started going to clubs years ago. It works. For example I went to T&A on central and they are super strict with touching the dancers. I tipped the bouncer five bucks and I didn't hear a peep from him. But I did hear him say loudly to other guys "Keep your hands to your side".

Katana, and Butterfly live at Hi Liter LOL. Dominique is also a good one. One thing I notice is that they charge way too early to go to Hi Liter. I've been here 2 years and the charge was at 7 pm. 2 years later they now charge at 5 pm. I hate cover charge. You don't go often but if you lived closer I would advise to buy the VIP card for $25. It gets you and a friend in free. It's good for like 6 months. It pays for itself if you go more than twice in 6 months.

NightFlh
06-04-17, 16:22
Does anybody have any information on this club? I have been in there look promising but not sure. Fox's use to be my go to but it been closed for a while now.I was right not a bad place. I gone in there a few times so girls will get comfortable with me. There are a few good looking dancer that are more then willing to make you feel right at home. Not as crazy as foxes. But it will do.

Higgs Boson
06-05-17, 00:53
Or.

Is the Joke on Higgs?

You might recall my field report from a few weeks ago: I was visiting Chicas with a dancer acquaintance and we had a conversation with the door security person. He told us that Chicas had bought the neighboring property and building which used to be a small market / convenience store. Speculation ensued about a nude side.

Fast forward about a month and I was driving past the club on a Friday afternoon and I noticed that the former market had a large opening and an overhead garage-style door installed. Hmmm, I thought, that's a different approach right there.

A week or so later, I drive past Chicas again, and the former market, sharing a common wall with Chicas, is now a llantera (tire shop), with a garish paint scheme. Whaaaa? I couldn't believe my eyes. Maybe the sale fell through. Maybe there's some kind of business arrangement with the club. Maybe the tire shop offers coupons for free lap dances. What better way to occupy yourself while getting a new set of tires or wheels?

I haven't been inside Chicas since the conversation with the door security guy. Maybe we can get the inside story in the coming weeks.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
06-05-17, 01:39
Does anybody have any information on this club? I have been in there look promising but not sure. Fox's use to be my go to but it been closed for a while now.And.


I was right not a bad place. I gone in there a few times so girls will get comfortable with me. There are a few good looking dancer that are more then willing to make you feel right at home. Not as crazy as foxes. But it will do.I'm glad you returned to Minks for further investigation and made a follow-up report. It's not one of my favorite clubs but I've also met some fine dancers there. Turnover seems high. (Turnover would make a pretty decent dancer stage name, n'est-ce pas?

Beware if you every meet a dancer there named Shy. Former Chicas dancer, purged from that club along with many other black dancers to make room for latinas. She gets very drunk and will also try doing a bait and switch. For example, she may tell you that she'll give you a special per dance price for the premier VIP section at Minks (champagne room? Then at the conclusion will point at the sign showing the per dance price for that section. She did that to me once. Don't accept it. I gave her what we agreed on and no more. IMO she has or had a very hot body. I actually still got dances from her on a subsequent visit. I couldn't resist. I haven't seen her for at least a year.

The management of this place will shut down the place at night if there are few or no customers, so you can't always count on it being open when you decide to swing by. The management claims the dancers complain if there are no customers. Well, yeah, but if there are no dancers or if the place is closed, customer won't visit and won't make the effort to drive there. I've never owned or managed a club but I think it would be good to waive dancers' house and per dance fees in those situations. It's easier to build a customer base if the place has hot, beautiful, and personable dances. The club will still make money on the booze.

Fox's.

In my opinion, this place will never re-open as a strip club. It's more likely to become a Filob3 rtos fast food mexican restaurant than a strip club. The area is already saturated with clubs (ABC, Dirty's, Chicas, Essex, Minks) and the site is a bi!ch to get in and out of being at the intersection of 35th Ave, Grand, and the Indian School overpass.

The last time this club re-opened, they almost seemed to pull it together. The new manager pulled in favors from dancers he knew from a previous club he worked at and many of the dancers were very hot. They lasted about a week or two and never returned because there were few steady and generous customers. I went there on some Saturday nights and party groups would arrive and occupy the VIP area. The groups would drop a couple handfuls of singles on the three or so dancers that converged on that area, and then the party would leave. The hot dancers didn't return which meant even fewer customers and continued the downward spiral.

I can't complain too much. I met one of my current faves there about four or five years ago, even "sponsored" her a bit. She is currently a regular at another club.

Last year I passed the club a couple of times and saw visitors looking over the closed club. I thought the activity might mean a re-opening but I was wrong.

Higgs.

Bankeroh
06-05-17, 19:29
Travelling to Phoenix soon and was wondering if any clubs have ladies that squirt during their performance. Trying to understand what the best way to spend my time may be and have always found a squirted to be a lot of fun for my own taste. I appreciate any guidance or suggestions.

Bigtim47
06-05-17, 21:11
Travelling to Phoenix soon and was wondering if any clubs have ladies that squirt during their performance. Trying to understand what the best way to spend my time may be and have always found a squirted to be a lot of fun for my own taste. I appreciate any guidance or suggestions.Greetings, I have never seen such a performance at any strip club anywhere in the US. And I have been to over 100 clubs. Most likely you will have to work with an escort for that.

Dick North
06-06-17, 16:51
Or.

Is the Joke on Higgs?

You might recall my field report from a few weeks ago: I was visiting Chicas with a dancer acquaintance and we had a conversation with the door security person. He told us that Chicas had bought the neighboring property and building which used to be a small market / convenience store. Speculation ensued about a nude side.

Fast forward about a month and I was driving past the club on a Friday afternoon and I noticed that the former market had a large opening and an overhead garage-style door installed. Hmmm, I thought, that's a different approach right there.

A week or so later, I drive past Chicas again, and the former market, sharing a common wall with Chicas, is now a llantera (tire shop), with a garish paint scheme. Whaaaa? I couldn't believe my eyes. Maybe the sale fell through. Maybe there's some kind of business arrangement with the club. Maybe the tire shop offers coupons for free lap dances. What better way to occupy yourself while getting a new set of tires or wheels?

I haven't been inside Chicas since the conversation with the door security guy. Maybe we can get the inside story in the coming weeks.

Higgs.
Just visited yesterday and it remains a tiny divey strip club with nightmarish parking. Will not be buying tires next door.
Sat at the bar and noticed several not-so-attractive dancers until another one got on stage. She was very cute and we made eye contact.
She came to the bar and sure enough it was "Latina-Karina". Spent some really fun dances with her and she gave me the sob story of needing $ to support her kid and classes to learn english.
Have only heard a story like this about 1000 times before.
Anyway, this remains a nice escape from many of the bigger clubs.
Only visit early in the day tho.
DN.

Dick North
06-08-17, 20:06
Travelling to Phoenix soon and was wondering if any clubs have ladies that squirt during their performance. Trying to understand what the best way to spend my time may be and have always found a squirted to be a lot of fun for my own taste. I appreciate any guidance or suggestions.All six of your posts are related to a fetish that most of the SC members never report on and probably don't relate to. Find a more appropriate thread.
DN.

Heel Lover
06-09-17, 12:05
Heard Maya came back a couple of weeks ago.

Heel Lover
06-09-17, 12:57
That's what this board is for. Getting good info! Happy I can help. I only use PM for the "dirty details". These dancers are for everybody and it's sad when guys think they are keeping them to their self. lol I learned the bouncer trick when I first started going to clubs years ago. It works. For example I went to T&A on central and they are super strict with touching the dancers. I tipped the bouncer five bucks and I didn't hear a peep from him. But I did hear him say loudly to other guys "Keep your hands to your side".

Katana, and Butterfly live at Hi Liter LOL. Dominique is also a good one. One thing I notice is that they charge way too early to go to Hi Liter. I've been here 2 years and the charge was at 7 pm. 2 years later they now charge at 5 pm. I hate cover charge. You don't go often but if you lived closer I would advise to buy the VIP card for $25. It gets you and a friend in free. It's good for like 6 months. It pays for itself if you go more than twice in 6 months.Correcting my earlier report too (or maybe it changed). Cover at Hiliter does start at 5, not 6. We didn't make it in to Hiliter, but did make it to Sugar 44 and had a lot of fun. The cover charge start time did make a difference as it was easier to pick up my friend at 530 (he's busy during the early afternoons) and not worry about driving / speeding over just to avoid a cover (we couldn't have made it to HiLiter without paying a cover, but no rush to miss sugar 44 cover which starts at 7).

And I learned a good tip / trick of the trade regarding how to interact with the hiliter bouncer next time we go. Thank you for that!

And I'll just have to remember hiliter cover starts at 5-one time we did hiliter and sugar without paying a cover at either. Only stayed about an hour and 15 minutes at Hiliter. Got there around 445, left at 6-easily arrived at sugar before cover started.

But did miss kimberly that day, probably from going in so early (she would be second shift I'm sure).

JayTomCar
06-09-17, 16:29
Heard Maya came back a couple of weeks ago.I haven't been the BM since she left. Time to go back. I love Maya. She is always fun and friendly. Very easy to talk to, and not hard to look at. A little older than some, but I am 72 years old and she is always very nice to me. Not many are really friendly with this old dude, but Maya always is.

Az Hobby Habit
06-14-17, 19:33
Unless she changed her hours since I talked to her, Maya is back at BMW Monday Wednesday and Friday afternoon. I actually got lucky and caught her that week she was back after not going since before she left.

I am just starting to get back in the game, so to speak. Is the level of service we used to get from unique & dolce circa 2014 still available, from them or others? PM if you want to share more details.

Heel Lover
06-26-17, 16:10
Always wanted to see her (she's beautiful and I've heard the name anyway and missed her last year) and finally had the chance on the 17th. Called club and they said first showtime was at 5 and still no cover before 5 even though feature dancer. What a deal!

I always wanted my wife to see a true pornstar as a feature dancer too (we had seen some at castle boutique many years ago, but obviously not the same experience).

Most of the features that dance there I had never heard of before.... In the past or present haha. But I definitely know who richelle ryan is!

Anyway got there around 445 and did ask bouncer if kimberly was there and did tip him 5 bucks. Good move. Thanks debonair! Anyway she wasn't there that night (I had told her last time I saw her, I would give her money to tip the feature if she wasn't busy and she said that would be fun-that was several months ago and beside the point now; but oh well).

Anyway had a cool talk about features and told him it was a special stop in today to see the feature anyway. He seated us on the side of the stage (close to the dressing room by the bar) and saw richele walk by in her "normal" clothes before going back to the dressing room. Damn she looked amazing! And I haven't seen many videos of hers or #1 obsessed fan or anything; just honest opinion.

We waited and just watched and got drinks / ones and just watched the dancers on stage until about 530. Started a little later than scheduled but then she comes out in full schoolgirl outfit! She looked so incredibly hot! Even my wife was like wow!

She came up to me first (again I was close to dressing room / stage) and I just couldn't stop smiling. I've seen plenty of features back in the day (Chasey lain, Christy canyon, kelly o dell (she was awesome for the record), blondage, Felicia, and non porn star venus delight) but it's been at least a decade and a half and never have seen one with my wife.

She was so fun on stage and did the "poster thing" that features do-I got one. Not that many guys were tipping or even doing anything-probably slower because it was father's day weekend and so hot / first show of the night.

At the end of her show, she went up to my wife and gave her a hug and a kiss on the cheek (richelle was trying to get my wife to go up to the stage, but she was being super shy). She was telling me I had a cool wife while on stage and I was like I agree.

I think it was about five songs and then it was over. We hung around for another 10-15 minutes (my wife likes sugar 44 more and we were going there next) and richelle just sits down with us. It was awesome!

Of course and obviously she's beautiful, but she was also so nice and fun to talk with. She was so easy to talk to and had the best personality I could have ever imagined. I even apologized kind of on behalf of arizona for the heat and the small crowd. Haha. She was like it's ok, I still just try and have fun no matter what. She had nothing bad to say at all and also was genuine about everything we talked about (no fake compliments, no complaints, no trying to sell me bullshit overpriced merchandise -she didnt sell any, but I've seen it before etc.) She signed our poster and then talked to us for quite a while.

I then asked if we could get a picture with her and that was the only time she mentioned additional money (I expected to pay so no big deal). It was only 10 dollars (our phone, not a Polaroid like back in the day before cell phones haha).

We were heading out anyway so it worked perfectly that we took the picture by the door (still inside not in the crazy heat haha) next to a poster of her and she said she'd probably be back in December (more because I asked and told her I definitely would want to see her next time she's in town).

She said she's planning on coming back the week that the Cardinals play the ny giants (I guess it's a Sunday night game). She's a big NY giants fan and I have a friend (of over 20 years that used to see some of the features with me way back when) that is a huge new York Giants fan as well. I will be back to see her (my wife will too as she really liked her as well) and maybe my friend too.

Not sure if any of you like the feature dancer (s), but if you do; she's the one to see!

P.S. Confirmed with the bouncer richelle is really the only porn star they book, most of the other "features" are represented by an agency and not porn stars. I was like oh so that's why I haven't really heard of the others (basically saying I know my porn stars haha). Made for a good chuckle with the bouncer anyway to start the night off.

SuperBad69
06-29-17, 23:24
Always wanted to see her (she's beautiful and I've heard the name anyway and missed her last year) and finally had the chance on the 17th. Called club and they said first showtime was at 5 and still no cover before 5 even though feature dancer. What a deal!

I always wanted my wife to see a true pornstar as a feature dancer too (we had seen some at castle boutique many years ago, but obviously not the same experience).

Most of the features that dance there I had never heard of before.... In the past or present haha. But I definitely know who richelle ryan is!

Anyway got there around 445 and did ask bouncer if kimberly was there and did tip him 5 bucks. Good move. Thanks debonair! Anyway she wasn't there that night (I had told her last time I saw her, I would give her money to tip the feature if she wasn't busy and she said that would be fun-that was several months ago and beside the point now; but oh well).

Anyway had a cool talk about features and told him it was a special stop in today to see the feature anyway. He seated us on the side of the stage (close to the dressing room by the bar) and saw richele walk by in her "normal" clothes before going back to the dressing room. Damn she looked amazing! And I haven't seen many videos of hers or #1 obsessed fan or anything; just honest opinion.

We waited and just watched and got drinks / ones and just watched the dancers on stage until about 530. Started a little later than scheduled but then she comes out in full schoolgirl outfit! She looked so incredibly hot! Even my wife was like wow!

She came up to me first (again I was close to dressing room / stage) and I just couldn't stop smiling. I've seen plenty of features back in the day (Chasey lain, Christy canyon, kelly o dell (she was awesome for the record), blondage, Felicia, and non porn star venus delight) but it's been at least a decade and a half and never have seen one with my wife.

She was so fun on stage and did the "poster thing" that features do-I got one. Not that many guys were tipping or even doing anything-probably slower because it was father's day weekend and so hot / first show of the night.

At the end of her show, she went up to my wife and gave her a hug and a kiss on the cheek (richelle was trying to get my wife to go up to the stage, but she was being super shy). She was telling me I had a cool wife while on stage and I was like I agree.

I think it was about five songs and then it was over. We hung around for another 10-15 minutes (my wife likes sugar 44 more and we were going there next) and richelle just sits down with us. It was awesome!

Of course and obviously she's beautiful, but she was also so nice and fun to talk with. She was so easy to talk to and had the best personality I could have ever imagined. I even apologized kind of on behalf of arizona for the heat and the small crowd. Haha. She was like it's ok, I still just try and have fun no matter what. She had nothing bad to say at all and also was genuine about everything we talked about (no fake compliments, no complaints, no trying to sell me bullshit overpriced merchandise -she didnt sell any, but I've seen it before etc.) She signed our poster and then talked to us for quite a while.

I then asked if we could get a picture with her and that was the only time she mentioned additional money (I expected to pay so no big deal). It was only 10 dollars (our phone, not a Polaroid like back in the day before cell phones haha).

We were heading out anyway so it worked perfectly that we took the picture by the door (still inside not in the crazy heat haha) next to a poster of her and she said she'd probably be back in December (more because I asked and told her I definitely would want to see her next time she's in town).

She said she's planning on coming back the week that the Cardinals play the ny giants (I guess it's a Sunday night game). She's a big NY giants fan and I have a friend (of over 20 years that used to see some of the features with me way back when) that is a huge new York Giants fan as well. I will be back to see her (my wife will too as she really liked her as well) and maybe my friend too.

Not sure if any of you like the feature dancer (s), but if you do; she's the one to see!

P.S. Confirmed with the bouncer richelle is really the only porn star they book, most of the other "features" are represented by an agency and not porn stars. I was like oh so that's why I haven't really heard of the others (basically saying I know my porn stars haha). Made for a good chuckle with the bouncer anyway to start the night off.Nice. She is hot as hell!

Higgs Boson
07-12-17, 22:32
There's an ugly rumor going around that I've given up the clubs for Tuesday night karaoke at the Wagon Yard Restaurant. Not true! Karaoke is on Wednesday nights.

Well, also changes in employment has made it difficult to get out and also made it difficult to file field reports.

On Centerfolds: it's interesting how that last hearing played out. The complaints blaming the club for transients and similar people is one aspect. One mile south the residents are blaming the expansion of the light rail line. In reality neither one is correct. This entire section of Phoenix has been changing over the past 15-20 years. About 15 years ago a person I know mentioned the area was changing. I was skeptical but he was very observant: pawn shops and title loan stores began to appear, apartment complexes were experiencing new demographics, and new complexes were built. The Sunnyslope area is near Centerfolds and had gotten so run-down, even the neighborhood big name convenience store shutdown because of inventory, hmm, shrinkage. Centerfolds is on a walking route from that neighborhood to the major shopping center at Peoria and I-17. Of course, the sporting goods manufacturer would see more problem people but it has nothing to do with the club.

Talking with people associated with the organization wanting to take the club over, a couple weeks ago I was told the chapter hasn't closed. Last night, I was told that parts of club, including the nude side, have been cleared to go ahead. Also, there is some kind of hearing scheduled for August 4.

My understanding is that the other party involved in the proposed ownership organization is the owner of the club at Cave Creek Rd and Union Hills Rd.

Higgs.

Hambone78
07-14-17, 22:46
Damn!! Not too many reports these days! I had a half day at work, some money to burn, and wanted to see some titties, so I decided to stop at Chicas for a bit. First of all, it was freaking packed! When I pulled up (2:15 pm), they had the parking lot "coned off" due to no available spots. They were directing people to park at the auto body shop next door. They had a guy out there directing traffic and I wasn't sure if they were charging or not (They charge to park right in front where the orange cones usually are. I've heard $5. 00 and even saw it $10.00 once). I decided to flip a ***** and head back down towards Virginia Ave. I parked in the paint store / Mexican candy store lot. It was about a 2 block walk. Walked up to the front door, got patted down and made my way in. Got my $5. 00 water and scoped out the scene.

It was fucking crowded! We are talking, standing room only. Fridays are usually the busiest day (lots of dudes getting off work. Painter type dudes. Bright neon green and orange shirts. Its actually helpful in the dark club to kind of see where you are going, LOL!) and today was no exception! I stood by the bar to check out the ladies. Most of the usual suspects were there. I saw one or two girls that I hadn't seen before (This was also the first time I had been here in months) but most of the girls were the "regulars". Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a HUGE pair of tits. It was Rosie! Hadn't seen her in probably a year, honestly. It's been awhile! She was / is my favorite / co-favorite dancer that works there. We talked for a brief minute, and I knew I had to suck on those titties! We went to the first lap dance booth nearest the bar, sat down and began our fun. Had 3 songs with her and gave her $40.00. If you love big tits, she is your girl. They are HUGE! Some of, if not THE biggest tits I have seen on a stripper. Very fun to play with.

I got done with her and hit the restroom to wash up and get the stripper smell off of my arms / face etc. Came back outside and stood near the pool table. A few minutes later, I see my other favorite come walking out from the back. Estrella! This is the first time in my Chicas visiting history, that they have both been here at the same time I was there. Talk about kid in a candy store. Wow! Estrella saw me and came over. Made small talk for a few minutes and then decided to get some dances. Went to the same booth and had 2 dances with her and gave her $30.00. Her tits are huge, too! Not as big as Rosies, but still fucking perfect! Rosie is shorter and has a more "firm" body, while Estrellas is more soft. Excellent dances though and my face was full of titties the whole time.

As soon as those dances were done, they called all the girls to the stage for their 3 pm "Roll Call" where they offer $5. 00 dances. I had somewhere else to be, plus already had my fill of huge tits for the day, so I was out. It was a most excellent visit and it could have only been better by having both of them at the same time in VIP or something. If you love big tit Hispanic girls, these are the two for you! Hope to see them there the next time I stop in. Always a good time!

WhoMe111
07-23-17, 11:06
I had never been to Chicas so I made the drive from North Scottsdale. I arrived and the parking lot was packed, the guy at the door said park at the tire store next door. I got over there and the area was so tight I figured my truck would get banged up so I pulled out of the lot. I young guy yelled to follow him to parking, I passed and kept going. I can't imaging there was enough space in the building to accommodate many customers.

I have been to Bandaids a few times and there are only a couple of girls there that appeal to me. I got there and it was not too crowded and was able to find a seat. As usual I got hit on quickly by the low hanging fruit. Then there is the bouncer who I have not noticed before. He helps the dancers off and on the stage. He is then constantly walking around the room checking everyone out and sometimes says something to dancers. About every 2-3 min he goes up to the high booth at the end of the VIP area and looks down into VIP or goes to the VIP entrance and looks in. This is constant. Pretty soon an attractive black dancer comes and sits on my lap and starts talking. After a bit she says what kind of service do you like, I jokingly say I like BJ's. She says lets go to VIP you can have HJ, BJ or FS. I tell her it is not in the budget today but I will take a dance. She gives me a dance and never takes off her top then moves on. I had another dancer for a couple of rounds, she had taken off her shoes and pretty soon the bouncer comes over and tells her she has to put her shoes on. The guy makes me feel intimidated. I finished up with a pretty attractive nice body gal who wears glasses, I had several dances on the floor and she gave me a good time.

This bouncer was enough of an irritation to me that if his routine continues I may not return.

Deboinair
07-26-17, 23:06
Damn!! Not too many reports these days! Probably because the strip club scene sucks overall. LOL I mean it's nowhere as a bad as Cali though. If it weren't for Chicas, I wouldn't go much. It's just not worth the time and money. I find that Phoenix strippers that were born and raised or came from somewhere else but lived here for a long time are the dumbest strippers on the planet. You hear them talk about how it's so slow in the summer, but they don't move with no sense of urgency. Quite a few thimk if they get $500 from a customer, it's going to happen all the time. Smdh. The most craziest thing I heard one time at Bandaids. This guy was trying to get a dance from a girl and she said "I'm going home. I made my money for the day". I was like WTF? What idiot does that? You never make enough money if you a stripper. Especially here, when it's slow. You need all you can get for the summer time.

I went to Chicas a few weeks back. Pretty dead just the Cuban bunch. I was like fuck it. Let me try one of them. One is Leasy (Lease-si) a thick mulatta Cubana. Got two dances with her and they were good. Dick grabbing and grinding. Did 2 of them and I went to get a beer. Problem is you get a dance with one, the others hound you. Thus the reason why I normally leave the Cubans alone along with them being pushy. I must say Leasy wasn't pushy at all. Speaks minimal English. "Want dance" she knows. LOL Her friend Carrie or Cara. I can't remember came up to me. I spoke to her in Spanish (she doesn't speak English). She wasn't pushy, I did do a few dances with her. She really knows how do give a friction dance. Had to fucking stop her after second dance because I felt like I was going to explode. She is very petite with a nice ass. I told her I'll be back.

I went to the bathroom to get some napkins. I was so impressed with her dance, that if I went it would be on the napkins not me. LOL So I come out and grab her. She is excited. Did 4 more dances with her. Played with the tits, FIV, and HJ till I busted. So for. 6 I think it was a very good deal. I got contact info, but she says she doesn't do OTC. Oh well. Will definitely have some more fun with her again.

I went to Bliss last Friday. It was dead but had about three good looking girls. One caught my eye and she came up to me like she knew me, but I didn't remember her at first. It was Mya at Bandaids. Haven't seen her in months. She's a petite half black / PR girl. Fun size. I got a few dances with her and contact info.

Lyle416
08-01-17, 04:14
Anyone familiar with Shelby at Hiliter? What does she look like? How are her dances? Heard nice things about her want to try her out.

DavePHX
08-05-17, 04:24
I'm basically not here but just to let folks know if it's allowed since it's not just fucking. Hi-Liter raided again yesterday.

Ralf511
08-05-17, 11:05
I'm basically not here but just to let folks know if it's allowed since it's not just fucking. Hi-Liter raided again yesterday.I always find you posts informational and Please don't stop with the posts and info!

Thank You!

Ralphy3456
08-06-17, 00:57
I'm basically not here but just to let folks know if it's allowed since it's not just fucking. Hi-Liter raided again yesterday.Not sure where you get your info but I'm pretty sure there was no raid at the Hi-Liter.

DavePHX
08-06-17, 05:44
Not sure where you get your info but I'm pretty sure there was no raid at the Hi-Liter.More info on another forum direct from a dancer.

Ralphy3456
08-06-17, 15:20
More info on another forum direct from a dancer.Consider the source. I spoke to the owners who in turn spoke to all the day and evening managers. None of them knew anything about a raid. I would think if there was a raid the managers would have some clue about it.

Deboinair
08-06-17, 17:15
Consider the source. I spoke to the owners who in turn spoke to all the day and evening managers. None of them knew anything about a raid. I would think if there was a raid the managers would have some clue about it.

I think there is a different definition of raids out here. I remember the word raid came up on here before and when I went to Hi Liter and asked a few girls about it, they all said the same thing. A few girls got caught for illegal touching. I wouldn't call that a raid because that is just a stripper vs an UC. Raids in major city means the club is shut down. The cops are looking for drugs, sex, or illegal sex acts. EVERYBODY is questioned and their I'd's are scanned for warrants, crime, etc. Oh at times there is news cameras there also.

Dick North
08-06-17, 20:02
I agree that this was a fake-news alert. Was there in the afternoon and talked with a number of dancer friends with no alert messages.
Knowing that HiLiter owns their club plus Bandaids+Centerfolds, I suspect that tax revenues have a play in City decisions.
DN.

Ralphy3456
08-06-17, 21:58
I agree that this was a fake-news alert. Was there in the afternoon and talked with a number of dancer friends with no alert messages.
Knowing that HiLiter owns their club plus Bandaids+Centerfolds, I suspect that tax revenues have a play in City decisions.
DN.All due respect, If you knew it was false information why would you publish it?

Dick North
08-07-17, 19:58
All due respect, If you knew it was false information why would you publish it?I did not publish false info. I published a truthful experience at HiLiter. Someone else must have posted false info. Guess who?
DN
ps. being very nice.

Ralphy3456
08-07-17, 20:15
I did not publish false info. I published a truthful experience at HiLiter. Someone else must have posted false info. Guess who?
DN
ps. being very nice.I looked back and saw the original post. My apologies to you Mr. North.

YousufZzZ
08-08-17, 18:45
I agree that this was a fake-news alert. Was there in the afternoon and talked with a number of dancer friends with no alert messages.
Knowing that HiLiter owns their club plus Bandaids+Centerfolds, I suspect that tax revenues have a play in City decisions.
DN.Fake news is taking over the world.

Deboinair
08-09-17, 15:25
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Dick North
08-11-17, 23:01
Visited today early afternoon. The place was really busy with lots of dancers. I was approached by Naomi, cute black girl and we did a few VIP dances. I had been noticing a dancer that was wearing the skimpiest of outfits I have ever seen. Anyway I was at the bar finishing a drink when skimpy outfit girl approached me. Name is Charisma. Did a couple of vips with her and I can now understand why she had been so busy in the main stage room.
Says she doesn't work there often, but I suspect Friday would be a good time to see her.
Really nice body with a few tats and a dental floss outfit.
Good luck.
DN.

Hambone78
08-13-17, 02:04
Saw something I had never seen before, today. Someone hired on the spot! I walked into Chicas and there were 2 girls at the bar in civilian clothes, filling out paperwork, with their IDs on the counter. They finished, went to the back room by the side of the bar, came out with the security guard, were shown the dressing room, and then about 20 minutes later made their debut! Carly, tall, probably 18-20 years old, curly hair, tattoos, small tits, and Rose, 18-20 years old, long black straight hair, shorter, tattoos, very, very pretty face and great body. I only stuck around for about 30 minutes and there was a group of dudes who swooped them up after their debut performance LOL. Good to see some new faces at least. Rose is definitely a chick I would get a dance from if I had stayed longer. This was Saturday between 12:15-1:00 pm.

Dick North
08-14-17, 17:00
Visited early today with a couple of dancers.
New hi-tech cameras installed. As always, watch your step.
DN.

Gjammun
08-16-17, 05:00
Went to three places tonight. Maybe consider it two since hi liter had three cars in the parking lot at 11 pm and it looked closed. Did something happen?

Started at bandaids wasnt feeling it went to Chicas which is usually packed Tuesday night for wrestling but it was definitley the c / b squad and not many dancers at all. Went back to bandaids and kept myself entertained.

Have time to kill tomorrow so will check out hi liter and probably back to chicas.

Peagleson
08-21-17, 20:28
This report is a couple of weeks old. Went to Hiliters on a Sunday night. Was busy but not overpacked. Girls here are gorgeous. Took me a while to decide which one I wanted a dance from. Decided to go VIP and got a wonderful dance from a girl (Bri, I think). Went a few songs. She was great and at least acted like she was really into it. Lots of mutual touching. I would come back. That being said, I am pretty new to the strip scene here in Phoenix. Is "extras" a thing here? And if so, which clubs would you recommend?

Thanks.

Hambone78
08-26-17, 01:39
Stopped by today and immediately noticed something different. No touching at all! Not on the stage, not in the booths etc. Bouncers literally standing a foot away during dances and hovering over the stage. Any contact at all, was dealt with and scolded "no touching, keep your hands at your sides. " Found out they are up for their liquor license renewal next month, and cops have been in / around the spot lately. Definitely cracking down until that liquor license gets renewed. Just an FYI if you plan on going there in the next month or so. It will not be the same Chicas experience you are used to. You have been warned.

Deboinair
08-28-17, 23:42
Stopped by today and immediately noticed something different. No touching at all! Not on the stage, not in the booths etc. Bouncers literally standing a foot away during dances and hovering over the stage. Any contact at all, was dealt with and scolded "no touching, keep your hands at your sides. " Found out they are up for their liquor license renewal next month, and cops have been in / around the spot lately. Definitely cracking down until that liquor license gets renewed. Just an FYI if you plan on going there in the next month or so. It will not be the same Chicas experience you are used to. You have been warned.Shit. I almost went there tonight. LOL. I'll stay away for a minute. It's been really bad lately with no new talent. So they are getting their liquor license you mean. They never had one. The liquor you see is fake. I don't know what they call it but you won't see the real liqour there. Just beer and wine.

Taemin
08-29-17, 01:54
Hey guys. First time posting here. Does Hi Liter have any Asians? I have only been to Sugar 44 and Bourbon Street and was not impressed to be honest.

DeanTheDream
08-29-17, 08:36
Like your Viagra prescription.


Shit. I almost went there tonight. LOL. I'll stay away for a minute. It's been really bad lately with no new talent. So they are getting their liquor license you mean. They never had one. The liquor you see is fake. I don't know what they call it but you won't see the real liqour there. Just beer and wine.

Phcoyotes
08-29-17, 13:41
Hey guys. First time posting here. Does Hi Liter have any Asians? I have only been to Sugar 44 and Bourbon Street and was not impressed to be honest.Last time I was at hi liter there were about 3 good looking Asians. I got table dances with 2 of them. They both gave good dances but both said that there was nothing more over in the VIP.

Taemin
08-30-17, 16:09
Last time I was at hi liter there were about 3 good looking Asians. I got table dances with 2 of them. They both gave good dances but both said that there was nothing more over in the VIP.Do you know any of their names? When is the best time to go? There aren't many Asian dancers here in Phoenix, huh?

WhoMe111
08-31-17, 08:36
Do you know any of their names? When is the best time to go? There aren't many Asian dancers here in Phoenix, huh?Butterfly is one. Really hot and gives a good dance. I have never gone to VIP with her.

Denton
08-31-17, 19:03
I popped in to Blue Moon briefly the other day. I didn't partake in any dances, but I noticed that one of the new girls there looked oddly familiar. A day or two later I was looking on backpage and realized that she was posting there under Lexi, the same name as her stage name at Blue Moon, and that I had seen her on backpage before.

Desert Rat
09-01-17, 01:32
I cannot speak for Phoenix Strippers but about 25% of the strippers in Tucson were also providers. I did sometimes get take out at the end of a shift but mostly got phone numbers and arranged a later meeting. I have never had an encounter inside a club.

Lyle416
09-01-17, 03:20
I concur she is an absolute doll. One of the best a Hiliter.

Deboinair
09-03-17, 12:43
I popped in to Blue Moon briefly the other day. I didn't partake in any dances, but I noticed that one of the new girls there looked oddly familiar. A day or two later I was looking on backpage and realized that she was posting there under Lexi, the same name as her stage name at Blue Moon, and that I had seen her on backpage before.Maybe it's me, but I rarely see Phoenix strippers on backpage. Let them tell it. They get $300 just to talk to a guy in the club so they don't do outside. It's funny I believe some have gotten that amount for said activity "ONE TIME" and then they think every guy is going to do it. I must admit the men here treat strippers like gf's here so they are actually the problem.

Taemin
09-05-17, 18:38
Hi Liter:

Can anyone tell me about Butterfly and another Asian, I think her name is Sophia, she's beautiful!?

DarkStranger
09-05-17, 19:33
I've been going to Essex for the past few weeks in the late after noon Sunday / Monday. Its mostly dead and kinda boring but the girls there have been treating me very well. Had a couple AA spinners give me some awesome dances on those couches they have against the wall for 10 a dance. A latina tried to con me into thinking she was giving me a deal for 15 a dance in the same area, so be weary. I live in the east valley and pass just about every other club on my way there, that's how much fun I've been having there haha. When I got too bored I checked out Chicas, seems like its always busy and I don't really like the lay out of the place. There was a couple unbelievably gorgeous women there, but I just ended up going back to essex.

Gjammun
09-07-17, 02:48
Went to three places tonight. Maybe consider it two since hi liter had three cars in the parking lot at 11 pm and it looked closed. Did something happen?

Started at bandaids wasnt feeling it went to Chicas which is usually packed Tuesday night for wrestling but it was definitley the c / b squad and not many dancers at all. Went back to bandaids and kept myself entertained.

Have time to kill tomorrow so will check out hi liter and probably back to chicas.Old news now. But a water pipe had broke they closed early. Went the next day to confirm.

Danimal Forth
09-12-17, 01:33
No major surprise that the clubs will just go along with this nonsense. Bouncer beats guy to death and training was the problem? Sorry if my anti-government bias is showing. I realize the wife wants to do something for her husband's death, but sorry lady, this is ridiculous.

Phoenix strip clubs back mandatory staff training

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/09/11/phoenix-strip-clubs-back-mandatory-staff-training-wake-firefighter-luke-jones-death/655145001/

LuvingFully
09-12-17, 13:43
Thanks for the heads up. I signed the petition (follow link at end of article). It doesn't make sense that a guy with his arm immobilized by elbow surgery ends up beaten to death. Training includes proper restraint techniques, deescalation techniques, anticipating and defusing a situation so that restraint can be avoided. Almost all wives would like to have their husbands come home alive and most innocent bystanders would prefer to not catch a stray punch or a bullet.


No major surprise that the clubs will just go along with this nonsense. Bouncer beats guy to death and training was the problem? Sorry if my anti-government bias is showing. I realize the wife wants to do something for her husband's death, but sorry lady, this is ridiculous.

Phoenix strip clubs back mandatory staff training

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/09/11/phoenix-strip-clubs-back-mandatory-staff-training-wake-firefighter-luke-jones-death/655145001/

Dick North
09-12-17, 20:25
Visited early afternoon today. Met with a Thai friend Tanya (aka Jesse from Bandaids). VIP was very busy and club had a variety of dancers from AA, white, latina & skinny to chubby. One dancer caught my attention. She was a tiny white spinner with glasses (OMG) wearing a dental floss gstring. Anyone know her? She is at the top of my dance card for the next visit.
With the issues at Bandaids & Chicas, HiLiter is my new goto club. More expensive tho.
DN.

Kujo69
09-13-17, 01:24
No major surprise that the clubs will just go along with this nonsense. Bouncer beats guy to death and training was the problem? Sorry if my anti-government bias is showing. I realize the wife wants to do something for her husband's death, but sorry lady, this is ridiculous.

Phoenix strip clubs back mandatory staff training

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/09/11/phoenix-strip-clubs-back-mandatory-staff-training-wake-firefighter-luke-jones-death/655145001/Main takeaway from this, there's another ownership group trying to re-open Centerfolds. Good to hear.

Kujo69
09-13-17, 01:27
VOne dancer caught my attention. She was a tiny white spinner with glasses (OMG) wearing a dental floss gstring. Anyone know her? She is at the top of my dance card for the next visit. Brunette? Jeanette? http://free.brokemodel.com/tour/models/dara.html.

WhoMe111
09-13-17, 08:27
Visited early afternoon today. Met with a Thai friend Tanya (aka Jesse from Bandaids). VIP was very busy and club had a variety of dancers from AA, white, latina & skinny to chubby. One dancer caught my attention. She was a tiny white spinner with glasses (OMG) wearing a dental floss gstring. Anyone know her? She is at the top of my dance card for the next visit.
With the issues at Bandaids & Chicas, HiLiter is my new goto club. More expensive tho.
DN.I've been out of town for a while now, what are the issues?

Dick North
09-19-17, 19:13
Brunette? Jeanette? http://free.brokemodel.com/tour/models/dara.html.Thanks for the info, but no that is not the girl. I will try later this week to see her and will let you know.

Thanks again.

DN.

RZM1231
09-25-17, 12:25
Fellows I'm planning a special night for a dear friend of mine who recently finalized his divorce, I'm thinking either Bandaids or Chicas, haven't been in either in a while since I read here about the stricter rules. I do have some contact with one of the dancers at Chicas and she tells me that everything is still the same. So if someone can please let me know of your recent experience I would greatly appreciated. Also I reported before about Dulce leaving BM, I recently made contact with her and found out she is now at T&A on Central. In my past experience I have not been very fond of the place but haven't been there in at least a year so not sure if there have been changes. I have also become very fond of the GoGo dancer show at Silverado Cantabar in 27th ave & CB. This place is a bit run down and tiny but the servers and bar tenders are cute and tend to wear sexy outfits, the shows starts around 1:00 am and involves between 1-5 dancers on skimpy outfits in top of the bar, no nudity at all but its not bad. One can either tip them at the bar or request a table / chair dance for a $20. The show is Tuesdays, and Friday through Sunday. Although I most warn you, they only play banda music, it's a hispanic bar, they do have a live band some nights but they want $20 per song request so I avoid that. Also dollar shot during the show but its bottom shelf stuff, and the show its not always great. For some pics of the place look them up on Instagram. Any how you all be safe and let me know about your recomendantions.

P.S. I noticed the T&A that was on McDowell is now going to be Bunny's and seems to be getting some work done.

DrPoon
09-25-17, 13:41
Brunette? Jeanette? http://free.brokemodel.com/tour/models/dara.html.Website is by the Scottsdale Fashion Square mall and the Mint club.

Dick North
09-27-17, 19:01
The amazingly cute petite dancer at HiLiter today. Looks asian up close. Says she grew up in Phoenix. Tipped her on stage had a few floor dances then tried VIP. No deal for any extra touching etc. So the scheme at HiLiter seems to be to wear a micro g string and keep pulling it down to entice patrons to buy into a 'better deal' in VIP which according to another dancer won't happen because they don't want to lose their jobs.
Anyway this girl is absolutely gorgeous. Perfect body small nice titties & ass. Would visit her again.

Kujo69 you may be on to something here. Maybe that is the girl that you suggested. Damn close for sure. Worth a further review.

DN.

Kujo69
09-27-17, 21:14
The amazingly cute petite dancer at HiLiter today. Looks asian up close. Says she grew up in Phoenix. Tipped her on stage had a few floor dances then tried VIP. No deal for any extra touching etc. So the scheme at HiLiter seems to be to wear a micro g string and keep pulling it down to entice patrons to buy into a 'better deal' in VIP which according to another dancer won't happen because they don't want to lose their jobs.
Anyway this girl is absolutely gorgeous. Perfect body small nice titties & ass. Would visit her again.

Kujo69 you may be on to something here. Maybe that is the girl that you suggested. Damn close for sure. Worth a further review.

DN.Yeah, that's her, the ultimate spinner. Very nice girl too. I recommend.

TwinTurbos
09-28-17, 03:50
Fellows I'm planning a special night for a dear friend of mine who recently finalized his divorce, I'm thinking either Bandaids or Chicas, haven't been in either in a while since I read here about the stricter rules. I do have some contact with one of the dancers at Chicas and she tells me that everything is still the same. So if someone can please let me know of your recent experience I would greatly appreciated. Also I reported before about Dulce leaving BM, I recently made contact with her and found out she is now at T&A on Central. In my past experience I have not been very fond of the place but haven't been there in at least a year so not sure if there have been changes. I have also become very fond of the GoGo dancer show at Silverado Cantabar in 27th ave & CB. This place is a bit run down and tiny but the servers and bar tenders are cute and tend to wear sexy outfits, the shows starts around 1:00 am and involves between 1-5 dancers on skimpy outfits in top of the bar, no nudity at all but its not bad. One can either tip them at the bar or request a table / chair dance for a $20. The show is Tuesdays, and Friday through Sunday. Although I most warn you, they only play banda music, it's a hispanic bar, they do have a live band some nights but they want $20 per song request so I avoid that. Also dollar shot during the show but its bottom shelf stuff, and the show its not always great. For some pics of the place look them up on Instagram. Any how you all be safe and let me know about your recomendantions.

P.S. I noticed the T&A that was on McDowell is now going to be Bunny's and seems to be getting some work done.FYI. I did noticed today when I was at Chicas this older lady in street clothes walking around the club and telling customers to not touch the dancers. This was around 6 pm.

WhoMe111
09-28-17, 10:05
The amazingly cute petite dancer at HiLiter today. Looks asian up close. Says she grew up in Phoenix. Tipped her on stage had a few floor dances then tried VIP. No deal for any extra touching etc. So the scheme at HiLiter seems to be to wear a micro g string and keep pulling it down to entice patrons to buy into a 'better deal' in VIP which according to another dancer won't happen because they don't want to lose their jobs.
Anyway this girl is absolutely gorgeous. Perfect body small nice titties & ass. Would visit her again.

Kujo69 you may be on to something here. Maybe that is the girl that you suggested. Damn close for sure. Worth a further review.

DN.She matches you description but I don't recall her saying she grew up in Phx. She did say she does not work very often.

Higgs Boson
10-04-17, 01:12
I was playing a round of tonsil hockey in my favorite club last week and I realized I hadn't filed a report for awhile.

I mentioned previously that I had a slow period at the clubs. Partly due to work issues but I was and am also pursuing OTC meet ups with mixed success. My outlook toward the clubs reverted when I celebrated my birthday in late June at my favorite club. I had two of my fave dancers show me the error of my ways, taking turns from each side massaging my fermion and my Yukawa Couplings, causing my fermion to increase mass. The three of us made for some interesting contrasts. On one side was a pleasantly thick asian with C cups and on the other side was a dark fit beauty with A cups and I was in the middle of this Hadron collider. But enough about the Standard Model of physics.

For a while I was making regular stops at Essex and there were some hot dancers there. Occasionally I'd make a stop at Chicas. This year's dancer selection at Chicas rarely spark my interest. I'd stop by and look things over, speculate on which seated person was DN and leave. However one day in July I ordered a beverage at the bar, turned to observe the dancer on the main stage and immediately developed a stiffy. It was a former fave and we got together as she finished her stage set. We had dances but she now uses an obscure subset of modern math that employs some form of quantum mechanics to arrive at a final number of dances. For example, I count four dances but she announces it's actually seven. I recently dropped by Chicas and it was all ho hum. Pretty dull.

Leaving Chicas I'd sometimes drop by Minks because I was giving Essex a rest for awhile. Minks is a complete crap shoot. Never seemed to be the same group of dancers. Probably because the place doesn't draw much of a crowd in the evening. This place seems very open to new dancers. On the other hand, dancers report the place nickel and dime's the dancers, expecting house payouts in a variety of ways. That and the sparse number of customers means high dancer turnover. Often I'd just finish the night at Bandaids. Summer doldrums at all the clubs spur dancers to move around looking for the busy club that isn't there.

Here's a couple of news notes and observations.

My sources tell me that:

The August 4 hearing related to Centerfolds is rescheduled to October 4.

The same sources say the interior of Centerfolds is ready.

The Pink Rhino interiors have been redone but the owners are waiting for decisions from the city.

Observations:

There was a large "for sale" banner on the fence of the closed Fox's for most of the summer. It probably blew off in a summer dust storm.

Field Reports.

Because of DN's masterful sleuthing skills and reporting, I went by Christie's on 32nd Street on a Thursday evening a couple weeks ago. Still closed.

The Exodus "Cultural Center" appears to be closed. Been that way for perhaps 4 or 5 months.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
10-04-17, 01:28
With the issues at Bandaids & Chicas, HiLiter is my new goto club. More expensive tho.To which WhoMe111 was spurred to inquire:


I've been out of town for a while now, what are the issues?DN is probably referring to.

1) the ID checks at Bandaids (and sister club Essex) which include taking your picture. This means that if you misbehave, you will be banned from both clubs. Sister club Hi Liter has not taken this step. It should be noted that Jaguars has a similar system in use at night.

2) the tightening of the touch rules at Chicas as they prepare for a new liquor license. Because of a breach in alcohol regulations / law years ago, they lost their full bar license and can only serve bottled alcoholic beverages.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
10-04-17, 01:46
Fellows I'm planning a special night for a dear friend of mine who recently finalized his divorce, I'm thinking either Bandaids or Chicas, haven't been in either in a while since I read here about the stricter rules. I do have some contact with one of the dancers at Chicas and she tells me that everything is still the same. So if someone can please let me know of your recent experience I would greatly appreciated.I think you should just go with whatever club you've liked in the past.

In the current situations, if you like a high percentage of latinas, go with Chicas.

If you like black and latina dancers, go with Essex after 9 PM on a night with drink specials. For example, Wednesday nights after 9 PM there are dollar drinks on a listed menu. If you're OK with house brands, then you're good to go. You'll get quality dances in the $10 area.

If you like a variety of black, cuban and white dancers with quality dances, go to Bandaids. There is also the neighborhood bar atmosphere in the bar area where you can strike up conversations with passing dancers. Just make eye contact. Drink specials on most nights until Midnight.

If you like black dancers and making it rain on stage, go to V Live.

Of course, you can always do a tour of several clubs.

Higgs.

RZM1231
10-04-17, 03:07
I think you should just go with whatever club you've liked in the past.

In the current situations, if you like a high percentage of latinas, go with Chicas.

If you like black and latina dancers, go with Essex after 9 PM on a night with drink specials. For example, Wednesday nights after 9 PM there are dollar drinks on a listed menu. If you're OK with house brands, then you're good to go. You'll get quality dances in the $10 area.

If you like a variety of black, cuban and white dancers with quality dances, go to Bandaids. There is also the neighborhood bar atmosphere in the bar area where you can strike up conversations with passing dancers. Just make eye contact. Drink specials on most nights until Midnight.

If you like black dancers and making it rain on stage, go to V Live.

Of course, you can always do a tour of several clubs.

Higgs.Thank you for your advice.

RZM1231
10-04-17, 03:11
FYI. I did noticed today when I was at Chicas this older lady in street clothes walking around the club and telling customers to not touch the dancers. This was around 6 pm.Thanks for the update.

RZM1231
10-04-17, 03:13
Hello fellows, here are few of my club stops. Wednesday I decided to skip work and recon Chicas. Daytime around 12 pm about 6 dancers all very good looking saw one tall brown skin doll, Gina I think. Not bad 8 on my 10 scale. Decent dance but very limited. Moved on to cute sexy petite mex girl with braces, a 9, minimal contact, claimed manager got upset, he did not tell me anything but I did noticed he started hovering more often. Another dancer claimed that she was told the club had been raided and that LEO took some of the girls. If so than I might not be visiting for a while. Then I headed to Bandaids. Not too busy, some decnet talent but nothing I wanted. Had a couple beers and left after 30 min. I did notice some decent millage from the people getting dances. Afterwards headed to T&A on Central. This place has this musty smell, think wet clothes left on the dryer for too long or wet furniture. The talen was very good, some really busty dancers. Got a dance from an ebony dancer with natural DDs and great booty. I can't remember her name but she also recomended VLive. I had not heard of this place until now so any reports would be greatly appreciated. One thing I do want to point out was the gorgeous bartender, an easy 10, petite asian with beautiful face and great sets of Ts & A.

Saturday night I went with my buddies to Bandaids and like always there was plenty of talent to chose from. Estrella was doing some rounds and asking for tips from just about every body. Saw one gorgeous Hispanics dancer who looked like the actres from wonder woman. She was always busy so was not able to sample. Got a couple of dances from a tall blond, slim figure with bolt-on DDs but they where soft as a cloud. Very nice attitude, sadly I missed her name. I did not noticed a single cuban dancer tonight. Had a few drinks and moved on.

Afterwards we went to BM, only saw 4 dancers even though the sign outside read 8 but that should not surprise me from this place. Saw 2 spinner type dancers who were very cute, and one taller thicker dancer who sure can dance. But been how this place had very few dancer, the 2 petite ones I had my eye on were always busy.

After leaving the BM headed to Silverado. The staff was wearing their school girl get up. The show tonight was a bit of a disappointment. Only 2 dancers at the bar, who were gorgeous BTW. Two of the servers also climed on the bar to do the dollar shots and do minimal dancing. Like I mentioned in my previous post this place is a hit or miss.

Monday around 130 pm, was running some errands around Phx and had some time to kill I stopped by BM again. Saw 5 dancers this shift, Clover, thick but gorgeous, honey, ebony with nice figure, snowflake, bbw blond with great attitude, kitty and another slim ebony dancer who's name I did not catch. Only got one dance from Kitty whom I'd say would be a 7-8 on my rating scale. The dance was much better than I can describe here, I even obtained the digits for take out. I'll report if I have that dream.

Stay safe fellows.

Higgs Boson
10-07-17, 00:34
Afterwards headed to T&A on Central. This place has this musty smell, think wet clothes left on the dryer for too long or wet furniture. The talen was very good, some really busty dancers. Got a dance from an ebony dancer with natural DDs and great booty. I can't remember her name but she also recomended VLive. I had not heard of this place until now so any reports would be greatly appreciated.V Live is the former Xcalibur club on University Drive, with considerable changes in the interior. No walls removed or added, but a totally new main stage with spectacular lighting from below. Tables occupy the floor except for one added auxiliary stage, and a big VIP / private dance area on the north side. This is primarily a "make it rain" club and the dancers make most of their money on stage. Not very different from when it was Xcalibur. Under the old name, Newbie80 and I enjoyed some some nice dances on chairs along the wall near the bar. That row no longer exists but the wall seems to attract guys who want a good view of the stage. Some dancers will approach them there. On my last and only visit to V Live, I hung out at the bar. I was approached by a couple of dancers but did not partake. One of them tried to direct me to the private dance area for $20/ dance. I'm willing to take a chance at $10/ dance but only occasionally at $20/ dance. Dancers are primarily black and latina.

I was told by a dancer at Bandaids, Nairobi, that V Live had auditions when it was getting ready to open, and implied that she didn't make the cut. Considering Nairobi is one of the most beautiful dancers I've ever met, I was dumbfounded. I suspect that Nairobi probably didn't meet either booty size or twerking expectations at the audition. Though I don't think she's a slouch in the first area, she's not huge either. I think her butt is a perfect size. Also, twerking is not a big requirement at Bandaids.

If you decide to visit V Live, I don't think it's open days and doesn't even open until around 9 PM. It's at its busiest beginning at 11 PM. If you show up after 11 PM, parking is a problem. It's not a very large parking lot.

For some promo video of V Live, do a search on the web for.

"vimeo v live phoenix".

The videos there pretty much sums it up but on a much busier night than my visit.

I may refresh my V Live experience later this month.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
10-07-17, 01:25
Decided to hit a couple clubs I haven't seen for while. Wanted to conserve my funds this week by actually avoiding my faves in Bandaids.

Dropped by Essex about 10 PM for dollar beverages. One of the security guys tried to help out a new dancer by introducing us. I wasn't interested in her but was polite and pointed her to a developing party in the other corner of the club. She took the hint, saying she'd check with me later, and never returned.

From my dancer contacts, I had heard that many of the Essex black dancers moved over to Jaguars. During this visit to Essex, it seemed that a lot of faces were missing. There also seemed to be a higher percentage of latina dancers but this might reflect that it was "Latino Night" at Essex. This hadn't been a factor in the past since the dollar drinks were a big draw for all groups.

Got some dances from "Lexy", on this her fourth day at the club. We were in the raised area on the north wall. Finishing our dances, she said they were $20/ each and I corrected her, paying $10/ dance. We separated on good terms. Probably would get dances with her again. There weren't many other dancers there that appealed to me and I decided to move on around Midnight.

Popped into Dirty's since I was nearby and hadn't been there in a long time. Five dollar entry. It took me awhile to get the attention of the barmaid but I got my beverage and sat down at a table one row removed from the stage. Looking around, there weren't many dancers I thought were interesting. Finally, "Honey" took the stage and I got her attention by tipping her onstage. She eventually joined me and I got some $10 dances. Probably about 5'5" without heels, she was a light complexioned black woman, perhaps mid-20's. Pleasant and giggly personality, proportional figure. Nice but fairly low energy dances. I liked her and might return for her.

Higgs.

Dick North
10-07-17, 18:56
I was told by a dancer at Bandaids, Nairobi, that V Live had auditions when it was getting ready to open, and implied that she didn't make the cut. Considering Nairobi is one of the most beautiful dancers I've ever met, I was dumbfounded. I suspect that Nairobi probably didn't meet either booty size or twerking expectations at the audition. Though I don't think she's a slouch in the first area, she's not huge either. I think her butt is a perfect size. Also, twerking is not a big requirement at Bandaids.
Higgs.I have visited an AA dancer named Naomi at Bandaids who matches your description. Same girl? Very athletic, slim perfect butt, nice smallish titties, cute and nice personality. Says she was on the track team in HS which I believe. Sometimes hearing a dancer's name in these clubs can be a challenge. Maybe having one too many 'beverages' can have an effect as well.
DN.

Higgs Boson
10-08-17, 01:25
I have visited an AA dancer named Naomi at Bandaids who matches your description. Same girl? Very athletic, slim perfect butt, nice smallish titties, cute and nice personality. Says she was on the track team in HS which I believe. Sometimes hearing a dancer's name in these clubs can be a challenge. Maybe having one too many 'beverages' can have an effect as well.
DN.We're talking about two different dancers. I've met both. No, it wasn't double vision.

Higgs.

RZM1231
10-09-17, 04:54
V Live is the former Xcalibur club on University Drive, with considerable changes in the interior. No walls removed or added, but a totally new main stage with spectacular lighting from below. Tables occupy the floor except for one added auxiliary stage, and a big VIP / private dance area on the north side. This is primarily a "make it rain" club and the dancers make most of their money on stage. Not very different from when it was Xcalibur. Under the old name, Newbie80 and I enjoyed some some nice dances on chairs along the wall near the bar. That row no longer exists but the wall seems to attract guys who want a good view of the stage. Some dancers will approach them there. On my last and only visit to V Live, I hung out at the bar. I was approached by a couple of dancers but did not partake. One of them tried to direct me to the private dance area for $20/ dance. I'm willing to take a chance at $10/ dance but only occasionally at $20/ dance. Dancers are primarily black and latina.

I was told by a dancer at Bandaids, Nairobi, that V Live had auditions when it was getting ready to open, and implied that she didn't make the cut. Considering Nairobi is one of the most beautiful dancers I've ever met, I was dumbfounded. I suspect that Nairobi probably didn't meet either booty size or twerking expectations at the audition. Though I don't think she's a slouch in the first area, she's not huge either. I think her butt is a perfect size. Also, twerking is not a big requirement at Bandaids.

If you decide to visit V Live, I don't think it's open days and doesn't even open until around 9 PM. It's at its busiest beginning at 11 PM. If you show up after 11 PM, parking is a problem. It's not a very large parking lot.

For some promo video of V Live, do a search on the web for.

"vimeo v live phoenix".

The videos there pretty much sums it up but on a much busier night than my visit.

I may refresh my V Live experience later this month.

Higgs.Thanks for the info, it sounds like its worth a visit.

WhoMe111
10-10-17, 10:34
I stopped in at Bandaids to kill some time. There did not seem to be a server so I finally had to go to the bar to get a drink. Lots of girls sitting around. Light skin black girl with long blond hair was on stage. She did not appeal to me since I am usually not into black girls. I turned down one heavyweight and then the stage dancer got off and came right over and sat down next to me and introduced herself as Domonique. She was really pleasant and we talked for a while and I finally had to ask for a dance. She never tried to sell VIP and really enjoyable (4) dances. I will not go into detail but will say she never pushed my hands away. I will be back to see her.

DarkStranger
10-10-17, 18:43
Never having been there, which seemed very weird, I journeyed to T and A Cabaret in south Phx. It was a Thursday evening and I was expecting the worse. I arrived to find the parking lot completely packed & free cover because it was my 1st time there. I walk in and there are girls everywhere and lots of costumers. Most of the girls were latina, few AA, a couple white. I had fun there with the cheap beer and $5 dollar dances. I would say that none of the girls there was over a 6 - 7 but I got some dances from several of the latinas. Security roamed the floor every song pretty much and I even got warned for feeling up on some boobies. The dancer said don't worry about it and she would talk to him. The VIP is $25 but from what I saw, wasnt very private. All in all I had a good time there and will most likely go back if only for the cheap table dances haha.

Hambone78
10-14-17, 22:54
Made a quick stop by Chicas on Friday afternoon between 1:30 and 2:30 pm. Seems like its getting back to normal. There was only one security guard there, and while he was looking into the booths, he wasn't immediately rushing over to "scold" the guy getting a dance. The previous few times there, a major crackdown was happening. I had a few dances from my favorite, and while not as good as in the past, they were still damn good, and way better than the last few times I had been in there. Also, I like how they opened the back gates in the parking lot so that you can park back in that dirt lot now. The lot attendant was out there hosing down the dirt as to not cause dust storms, which was appreciated. I tipped him a couple of bucks on my way out. Hope that this is a swing in the right direction and Chicas is back to being as great as it once was. I'll be back in about a week to let you guys know more.

Higgs Boson
10-18-17, 20:42
Never having been there, which seemed very weird, I journeyed to T and A Cabaret in south Phx. It was a Thursday evening and I was expecting the worse. I arrived to find the parking lot completely packedThe T & A parking lot makes me a little nervous. It's small, tight spaces and easy to get blocked. I have a nearby and safe alternative parking location.

I was at T & A Central Wednesday night of last week. I had a rotten afternoon. I probably should have skipped the club scene since I wasn't feeling particularly sociable.


& free cover because it was my 1st time there. I walk in and there are girls everywhere and lots of costumers.I got charged the typical $7 cover after the security pat down. No hot asian behind the bar but I got my. Wait. DN doesn't like me to say Beverage, so tonight I decided to get a boisson . Once out in the lounge area, the servers fell over themselves getting me refills.

Not many customers, perhaps only 3-4 other males in the lounge, and about 7-8 dancers. The black dancers were the standouts. Three were proportional or fit in build, and the fourth black dancer was pleasantly thick. The latinas were either overweight with fake boobs or straight figures.

I was seated at one of the third row tables, pretty much laying low while reviving my attitude and quietly sipping my boisson, when black dancer "Loaded" came over and introduced herself. She was slender or fit in build, with a friendly smile, and pretty b cup breasts. I wasn't quite in the mood for dances but I instead offered to have her sit on my lap for awhile. Compensated her for her time when it was her turn for the stage.

My original plan was to catch the Wednesday night scene at Essex but instead, I went over to Bandaids. Pretty quiet but got a few pleasant dances with Cherish, who I believe previously danced during the Summer under a different name.

Higgs.

WineX
10-25-17, 22:27
Anyone hear about any activity there? A comment in a review of a well know review site said that there was some po-po action this week.

Member #5697
10-27-17, 01:40
Originally from Miami, where going to a strip club and getting the VIP treatment means getting a room for 1/2 hr and fucking FS for $$ to $$ But here they say you get 4 songs in a private room for $.

So. WTF does VIP mean down here??

Nagatron
10-27-17, 03:10
Originally from Miami, where going to a strip club and getting the VIP treatment means getting a room for 1/2 hr and fucking FS for $$ to $$ But here they say you get 4 songs in a private room for $.

So. WTF does VIP mean down here??If you are used to Florida strip clubs then you will be very disappointing here. Do not expect anything the Mons in Tampa or any of the South Florida clubs. Very mild here comparatively. Not to mention the women in Florida are absurdly hot.

Dick North
10-30-17, 18:41
Last I checked this is the Phoenix Strip Club thread.

The put-downs from those who migrated from Florida and other areas are an insult to the members who enjoy the Phoenix clubs and all that they have to offer.

If you don't like it here then pack up and move back to Florida or whatever strip-club paradise that you came from.

OR. Give the area a chance and explore the many clubs, dancers and opportunities.

DN.

Deboinair
10-30-17, 19:22
Originally from Miami, where going to a strip club and getting the VIP treatment means getting a room for 1/2 hr and fucking FS for $$ to $$ But here they say you get 4 songs in a private room for $.

So. WTF does VIP mean down here??No nothing like South FL. You're best bet is trying OTC with strippers not from Phoenix. Chicas is a great club for that, but it has slowed down since Vice Squad came in. You can't really touch the girls like that anymore. Phoenix strippers are very slow and complain about not making money, but most are lazy. I was confused on why some of them act like you should treat them like you are talking to them like they are at a regular bar, but the men in Phoenix do that. They also overpay.

You'll have to club hop, but there are quite a few dancers that come from all over. I've had my best experiences in Chicas, Jags, and Bandaids (this place is not very good anymore). T&A is a ok, but hit or miss. Bliss is dead but if you are lucky enough to find a girl you like, lots of things can go down. But this place is extremely dead. You would have to live in the area to make it worth while going there. Thing is you won't fine a ton of beautiful dancers here. If you are looking for that exotic flavor. It's limited. Lots of average looking dancers, that think they are stallions though.

VIP in Phoenix basically means you will get the same as the floor dance. Maybe a little more touching, but unless you know the girl it's not worth it. If a dancer is willing to do something she either be fat and ugly or overcharge if she is pretty. No Diamond Dolls here. So no 3 song FS with a dime stripper. LOL. Overall have low expectations and just be happy if something works out. I've been here three years and had some good experiences. It's a hobby. I didn't move here for strip clubs so I'm not going anywhere. Well unless the recreational weed takes off and I sell my house for a good profit. lol

Not much details about clubs on this forum due to a few members trying to censor info even though this forum is about sucking and fucking. Most are 50+ in age and FS to them is when a stripper touches them on their junk. Feel free to have your in depth opinions on the clubs in Phoenix and use detail. You can do this on any other city forum, this one is not excluded.

Dick North
10-30-17, 19:32
No nothing like South FL. You're best bet is trying OTC with strippers not from Phoenix. Chicas is a great club for that, but it has slowed down since Vice Squad came in. You can't really touch the girls like that anymore. Phoenix strippers are very slow and complain about not making money, but most are lazy. I was confused on why some of them act like you should treat them like you are talking to them like they are at a regular bar, but the men in Phoenix do that. They also overpay. You'll have to club hop, but there are quite a few dancers that come from all over. I've had my best experiences in Chicas, Jags, and Bandaids (this place is not very good anymore). T&A is a ok, but hit or miss. Bliss is dead but if you are lucky enough to find a girl you like, lots of things can go down. But this place is extremely dead. You would have to live in the area to make it worth while going there. Thing is you won't fine a ton of beautiful dancers here. If you are looking for that exotic flavor. It's limited. Lots of average looking dancers, that think they are stallions though.

VIP in Phoenix basically means you will get the same as the floor dance. Maybe a little more touching, but unless you know the girl it's not worth it. If a dancer is willing to do something she either be fat and ugly or overcharge if she is pretty. No Diamond Dolls here. So no 3 song FS with a dime stripper. LOL. Overall have low expectations and just be happy if something works out. I've been here three years and had some good experiences. It's a hobby. I didn't move here for strip clubs so I'm not going anywhere. Well unless the recreational weed takes off and I sell my house for a good profit. lol

Not much details about clubs on this forum due to a few members trying to sensor info even though this forum is about sucking and fucking. Most are 50+ in age and FS to them is when a stripper touches them on their junk. Feel free to have your in depth opinions on the clubs in Phoenix and use detail. You can do this on any other city forum, this one is not excluded.Sorry Bud but most of your post is pure personal experience and sure as hell does not characterize what many other mongers experience.

But have fun anyway.

DN.

Deboinair
10-30-17, 20:11
Sorry Bud but most of your post is pure personal experience and sure as hell does not characterize what many other mongers experience.

But have fun anyway.

DN.Ignore button is available if you don't like what I say. But my posts are always original and accurate. Just because you like overpaying and treating strippers like gf's doesn't mean everybody else does. You don't set the rules here. So I advise you to take this somewhere else.

EDIT:

I also talked with many guys from Phoenix or people who lived here awhile at the strip clubs I've gone to. The info I gathered is that they overpay and "get to know" strippers rather than make deals quick. Some of them do, but the majority don't. So if somebody is asking about clubs and they come from a different place like Miami. The prices and the way to go about things is two different worlds. Unlike you, I'm trying to have people not waste their time and money.

TwinTurbos
10-30-17, 23:37
No nothing like South FL. You're best bet is trying OTC with strippers not from Phoenix. Chicas is a great club for that, but it has slowed down since Vice Squad came in. You can't really touch the girls like that anymore. Phoenix strippers are very slow and complain about not making money, but most are lazy. I was confused on why some of them act like you should treat them like you are talking to them like they are at a regular bar, but the men in Phoenix do that. They also overpay.

You'll have to club hop, but there are quite a few dancers that come from all over. I've had my best experiences in Chicas, Jags, and Bandaids (this place is not very good anymore). T&A is a ok, but hit or miss. Bliss is dead but if you are lucky enough to find a girl you like, lots of things can go down. But this place is extremely dead. You would have to live in the area to make it worth while going there. Thing is you won't fine a ton of beautiful dancers here. If you are looking for that exotic flavor. It's limited. Lots of average looking dancers, that think they are stallions though.

VIP in Phoenix basically means you will get the same as the floor dance. Maybe a little more touching, but unless you know the girl it's not worth it. If a dancer is willing to do something she either be fat and ugly or overcharge if she is pretty. No Diamond Dolls here. So no 3 song FS with a dime stripper. LOL. Overall have low expectations and just be happy if something works out. I've been here three years and had some good experiences. It's a hobby. I didn't move here for strip clubs so I'm not going anywhere. Well unless the recreational weed takes off and I sell my house for a good profit. lol

Not much details about clubs on this forum due to a few members trying to censor info even though this forum is about sucking and fucking. Most are 50+ in age and FS to them is when a stripper touches them on their junk. Feel free to have your in depth opinions on the clubs in Phoenix and use detail. You can do this on any other city forum, this one is not excluded.Some good information for people. It's true, people need to go and club hop and try different clubs and find the ones that they like.

Heel Lover
11-11-17, 18:43
My bad obviously should be in strip club section.

Regulars / locals I know this will be repetitive. But now that the weather is cooling down and az (Maricopa County) is a place people want to be, I'm posting this for visitors. Take my advice and go anywhere but these 4 places. If you're staying in a hotel next to these places doesn't matter still DO NOT go to:

Scottsdale:

Skin-pasties, overpriced dances, snobbish attitudes-sound fun?

Bones-same management as Skin-all of the above plus a bartender / waitress that will act like you're not even good enough to be there (my personal experience when I went in when it first reopened as bones just to check it out. There were zero dancers at like 4 o'clock on a Sat-bartender acted like it was my fault for not going in later-like I was supposed to know that open at 11 am meant no dancers for the first week or so until about 6). Please for the sake of avoiding an awful place-avoid!

Two places above are like being in a physics class (in an all male school) with an old guy professor who is monotone and continously rambles on with his "exciting" formulas and knowledge.

But wait, there's worse. Off to tempe we go and you should always! Avoid:

Elite Cabaret-this place is not elite by any means! Pasties, rip off place, stuck up dancers, oh and the hard sell on the cabanas (for hundreds of dollars) on the patio. That's right, cabanas on the smoking patio. You'd have more fun going to the dollar store with 300 dollars, and mixing and matching items (so that the clerk couldn't ring up 1 item and type in 300 times) and looking at the expression on the clerk's face when you bring your overflowing cart to check out. Their expression would still be better than most of the dancer personalities here.

Sound great doesn't it? Almost as much fun as waiting at the dmv for 2 1/2 maybe 3 hours and then having the systems crash or power failure. Definitely worth a repeat right? I think not.

But oh yeah need I forget the shittiest of shitty clubs? No way.

Dream Palace for the win, errr loss! This club is so bad that words cannot describe. Don't even think of stepping foot in this one. Please, please take my advise on this one. Takes rip off to a whole new and different level! And the hustle factor will be through the roof. You will be so lucky that you won't even (most likely as its been like 10 years since I visited for a whole 15 minutes and wasted I think a whopping 10 dollars) get hassled by a dancer, no it will be the greeter, hostess / waitress whatever she's called.

And she will be hotter (way hotter) than any of the dancers. But she won't sit in your lap or flirt with you like a dancer, oh no! She'll be fully clothed and sit in the chair next to you and maybe rub or hold your hand a little and try to force you to go VIP with a dancer without explaining that nothing great will happen there! And it will cost a lot! Fun times! Oh yeah, she will, however explain that they do have an atm for convenience. Don't even know what kind of ridiculous fees that thing would charge!

I've done some very stupid things and spent a LOT of money in clubs over my 20 years in strip clubs in az, but luckily not this day! I wish I could get my 15 minutes and 10 bucks back though haha.

Again, not here to be a downer or anything. Az (Maricopa county) has some great clubs, they just don't exist in tempe or scottsdale.

Phx is much better and not too far away. Hell take Uber or lyft if needed too!

Any to add to this list or any to recommend welcomed. I have my favorites (sugar, hiliter, bsc) but everyone's opinions vary. I don't think any locals would disagree that the 4 above are horrible however.

Just want tourists to enjoy their stays and to avoid any of their hard earned money to be wasted in the above 4 clubs.

Happy veterans day everyone! Enjoy your Saturday and rest of the weekend. Stay safe and have fun!

Dick North
11-12-17, 19:42
My bad obviously should be in strip club section.

Regulars / locals I know this will be repetitive. But now that the weather is cooling down and az (Maricopa County) is a place people want to be, I'm posting this for visitors. Take my advice and go anywhere but these 4 places. If you're staying in a hotel next to these places doesn't matter still DO NOT go to:. . .
!Got it. Yes most of us who live here avoid those places.
But congrats for a well written and entertaining notice to the many winter visitors & tourists arriving.
DN.

Bigtim47
11-12-17, 22:39
Got it. Yes most of us who live here avoid those places.
But congrats for a well written and entertaining notice to the many winter visitors & tourists arriving.
DN.Only one problem. How many visitors actually read this post or any on here? Only hardcore mongers I'm afraid. The casual visitor and his buddies will be drawn to these places. That's why they are still in business making money. Lots of guys come out to Scottsdale with their friends to get in some rounds of golf in the winter. Guys will be guys. "Hey, let's go to a couple of strip clubs tonight".

ShyNine
11-13-17, 03:15
Let an old timer chime in.

I've been to clubs in vegas, phx, san diego, la, bakersfield, bay area, albq, el paso, lubbock, tucson and phx.

Of all those places phx ranks ranks close to the bottom only beaten out by fresno and vegas.

If you just want to chat and be with a pretty girl and get blue balls then hit the phx clubs.

Again, I'm older, so perhaps the girls like to play with you younger fellas.

3 dancers have given me their # over the years in phx and none have ever answered.

Nothing EVER happens in VIP that's worth writing about.

If you're looking to play I suggest you take the time and spend the cost of a tank of gas and roll down to tucson.

The women are friendlier, less expensive, and you can have a great time for under $$ and drive home with a smile on your face or maybe stay the night and play again the next day.

OTC is available and over the past 10 years I've had regulars in Tucson, el Paso, albq. And LA.

I had a hi-liter dancer I used to see but I didn't meet her at the club. She was working down here at the time we met.

Check the board down here and judge for yourself.

For the rest of you, enjoy and be safe.

Deboinair
11-13-17, 19:01
Let an old timer chime in.

I've been to clubs in vegas, phx, san diego, la, bakersfield, bay area, albq, el paso, lubbock, tucson and phx.

Of all those places phx ranks ranks close to the bottom only beaten out by fresno and vegas.

If you just want to chat and be with a pretty girl and get blue balls then hit the phx clubs.

Again, I'm older, so perhaps the girls like to play with you younger fellas.

3 dancers have given me their # over the years in phx and none have ever answered.

Nothing EVER happens in VIP that's worth writing about.

If you're looking to play I suggest you take the time and spend the cost of a tank of gas and roll down to tucson.

The women are friendlier, less expensive, and you can have a great time for under $$ and drive home with a smile on your face or maybe stay the night and play again the next day.

OTC is available and over the past 10 years I've had regulars in Tucson, el Paso, albq. And LA.

I had a hi-liter dancer I used to see but I didn't meet her at the club. She was working down here at the time we met.

Check the board down here and judge for yourself.

For the rest of you, enjoy and be safe.This is a great HONEST AND ACCURATE POST. Great info. I'm not super young myself, so no it's not just your age. It's just how it is in Phoenix. A couple of things to note to help better understand is that a lot of Phoenix strippers work regular jobs and do the stripping part time. So confused because most places I've been strippers is what they do full time. LOL So that's where I see them having the audacity to think that you should talk to them like you would at a regular bar. A lot of the men obviously do it though. It's weird I never met so many strippers from Phoenix that have nothing to show for their stripping. A good portion do not have basic things like cars. If I were a woman, I could never let no dude touch me for $10 a song and not have anything to show for it.

Was at Bliss yesterday and they have this new girl Half PR / Czech. Amazing face and body. No dice on the OTC. She is one of the ones that work full time and strips part time. She wasn't bad attitude wise but she moved out Phoenix and moved back. So she has the outside experience with this whole strip club industry. Got a few high mileage dancers from her, more than the normal but still not what I'm used. I'm going to have to check out Tuscon.

I tend to stay away from Cali from what the negative I heard about them dancing 6 ft away and you can't touch the dancers. I know Vegas has some hot spots, but I'm not trying to pay killer prices. Thanks for the info. Will definitely have to check out Tuscon.

DrGori
11-13-17, 21:23
Any word on Bunnys? It's on McDowell east of 24th st. I was passing through the area and saw this club. It looks closed. What might be happening to this location?

DrPoon
11-14-17, 05:11
Well the all nude strip club (Dream Palace) used to have free entry coupons from the other topless club north of it. But you had to buy two drinks though. Dream Palace is ok if you let it be known you are just there for watching and not for private dances. But first see about getting the free coupon.

Also sometimes the research park there is known for hobbyists to go for car dates. I believe it is outside the jurisdiction of Scottsdale (being state land). So I think it is safe for car dates, I think.

Stomp2
11-14-17, 14:03
This is a great HONEST AND ACCURATE POST. Great info. I'm not super young myself, so no it's not just your age. It's just how it is in Phoenix. A couple of things to note to help better understand is that a lot of Phoenix strippers work regular jobs and do the stripping part time. So confused because most places I've been strippers is what they do full time. LOL So that's where I see them having the audacity to think that you should talk to them like you would at a regular bar. A lot of the men obviously do it though. It's weird I never met so many strippers from Phoenix that have nothing to show for their stripping. A good portion do not have basic things like cars. If I were a woman, I could never let no dude touch me for $10 a song and not have anything to show for it.

Was at Bliss yesterday and they have this new girl Half PR / Czech. Amazing face and body. No dice on the OTC. She is one of the ones that work full time and strips part time. She wasn't bad attitude wise but she moved out Phoenix and moved back. So she has the outside experience with this whole strip club industry. Got a few high mileage dancers from her, more than the normal but still not what I'm used. I'm going to have to check out Tuscon.

I tend to stay away from Cali from what the negative I heard about them dancing 6 ft away and you can't touch the dancers. I know Vegas has some hot spots, but I'm not trying to pay killer prices. Thanks for the info. Will definitely have to check out Tuscon.This might be a little off topic but got me to thinking about the time I had a stripper go ape shit on me (not in a good way)! Years ago I use to frequent the strip clubs with with friends mostly in Vegas. One place we had frequent a lot was the Olympic Garden. This place was rocking back maybe 20 years ago. But after the remodel of the place it had lost it charm! It has long shut down! We started checking out some of the other clubs and came upon The Library which is located about 10 minutes off the strip. Mostly a place for locals to visit. My buddy and I had hit it off with a couple of dancers. We got dances and chatted for most of the evening. I had this blonde stripper who had boobs the size of basketballs and my buddy had this seasoned stripper who had been stripping for many years. She must of been pushing close to 50 years in age but still look good! We were chatting it up at a table when my girl had to get up to dance and my buddy had to visit the john. That left me with the older stripper and we got to talking. She started to complain that she was not making any money stripping and went on and on! Even thought we had laid some serious cash that night on these girls! She said she did not not know if she was to continue stripping. So I asked her what else she could do, if she had some schooling, an education? Boy was I was wrong asking her that! She went off on me and used every word in the book and stormed off! My buddy came back and asked what happen. Our night there soon came to an end!

Deboinair
11-15-17, 02:31
This might be a little off topic but got me to thinking about the time I had a stripper go ape shit on me (not in a good way)! Years ago I use to frequent the strip clubs with with friends mostly in Vegas. One place we had frequent a lot was the Olympic Garden. This place was rocking back maybe 20 years ago. But after the remodel of the place it had lost it charm! It has long shut down! We started checking out some of the other clubs and came upon The Library which is located about 10 minutes off the strip. Mostly a place for locals to visit. My buddy and I had hit it off with a couple of dancers. We got dances and chatted for most of the evening. I had this blonde stripper who had boobs the size of basketballs and my buddy had this seasoned stripper who had been stripping for many years. She must of been pushing close to 50 years in age but still look good! We were chatting it up at a table when my girl had to get up to dance and my buddy had to visit the john. That left me with the older stripper and we got to talking. She started to complain that she was not making any money stripping and went on and on! Even thought we had laid some serious cash that night on these girls! She said she did not not know if she was to continue stripping. So I asked her what else she could do, if she had some schooling, an education? Boy was I was wrong asking her that! She went off on me and used every word in the book and stormed off! My buddy came back and asked what happen. Our night there soon came to an end!I never ask these strippers what their plans are. I mean personally I'm not into talking to them like that. I've had strippers here in Phoenix get mad at me because I cut them short. I have an agenda. Either you are sucking or fucking or go the fuck away. In Phoenix, Vegas and Cali from my experience, they love to find that sucker that will chat them up and pay them for doing that. I once had a dumb ass stripper tell me she got paid $300 from a guy just from talking to her. She was from Phoenix, so I was like I bet you expect that to happen regularly. I asked her how many times has that happened for you. She was like 3 times. I thought she was lying, but overall three times and you expect that some idiot will do that do you consistently?

I think Tuscon will be the spot for me as long as I live in AZ. I checked out the thread and it's some good info and way more people posting on their that have great stories. On the Phoenix thread there are only like three members that consistently post, but they have very lame and uninteresting info.

Higgs Boson
11-17-17, 01:27
DN, Nagatron, Deboinair TwinTurbos and others.

IMO you're all correct.

A short comment which got out of hand:

The Phoenix area is not a "Strip Club Destination". Dancers sometimes move to AZ because of the lower cost of living but then many are shocked to find the clubs don't pay well. Many hot dancers go elsewhere if they have no ties or obligations here. I've known some sexy dancers who moved to clubs in Atlanta, Miami, and pre-Harvey Houston. As DN suggested, you'll have to sample local clubs to find gems. IMO the dancers who are not originally from Phoenix may be more open to transactional arrangements because they have no local (family) ties who could disapprove of the activity. I agree local dancers may require more socializing. Yes, you may have to treat them more like girlfriends to convince them you're not LE, an alcohol bureau inspector, a pimp-wannabee, psychopath, or stalker. They may also be more aware of the social conservatism and the accompanying LE enforcement in Phoenix. (I know a local dancer whose in-club activity (not with me, damit) this year drew a $1000 fine and she had to engage a lawyer to fight it).

There are some dancers out there who do the clubs for all their income but they are a small minority. Many are supplementing income from other jobs and a small number are local college students. There are a lot of single parents out there dancing while their kids are in school, day care, or being watched by an SO or relative. Realistically, dancing is a lot like a professional athletic career. Eventually, there will be an endpoint. The older dancers tend to extend their careers through augmentation; personality; persistence or aggression; and occasionally more GFE. The smarter dancers plan ahead for a post-dancing career.

So, if you're pining for the great times in Miami, Atlanta or Houston, you're unlikely to duplicate that in Phoenix. Either book a flight, or get out to the Phoenix clubs and find those gems.

Personally, I like to find dancers who are personable, give me a thrill, treat me nice, and don't try to drain my wallet when I see them. In return, I become a repeat customer, treat them nicely, buy them drinks, and not be a tightwad. This approach has opened many possibilities for me. You may have other opinions.

As for what I post, I've mentioned before that I try to be discreet and not associate particular acts with named dancers, and sometimes try not to be too specific about the club. I know for a fact LE monitors this forum and I don't want to figuratively hang neon signs somewhere pointing to particular dancers. I may say a dancer unzipped me and wanted to bareback on the fourth song but I'm not going to say her name or the club. Occasionally I reply to PMs from regular veteran posters.

The situation in Tucson is completely different. It appears LE down there doesn't really care a whole lot unless a club has a shooting or becomes a drug den. AFAIK only one club has been shut down in the last 20 years. Later it was resurrected under a new name but the club continues its wild reputation.

Higgs.

Deboinair
11-17-17, 01:48
DN, Nagatron, Deboinair TwinTurbos and others.

IMO you're all correct.

A short comment which got out of hand:

The Phoenix area is not a "Strip Club Destination". Dancers sometimes move to AZ because of the lower cost of living but then many are shocked to find the clubs don't pay well. Many hot dancers go elsewhere if they have no ties or obligations here. I've known some sexy dancers who moved to clubs in Atlanta, Miami, and pre-Harvey Houston. As DN suggested, you'll have to sample local clubs to find gems. IMO the dancers who are not originally from Phoenix may be more open to transactional arrangements because they have no local (family) ties who could disapprove of the activity. I agree local dancers may require more socializing. Yes, you may have to treat them more like girlfriends to convince them you're not LE, an alcohol bureau inspector, a pimp-wannabee, psychopath, or stalker. They may also be more aware of the social conservatism and the accompanying LE enforcement in Phoenix. (I know a local dancer whose in-club activity (not with me, damit) this year drew a $1000 fine and she had to engage a lawyer to fight it).

There are some dancers out there who do the clubs for all their income but they are a small minority. Many are supplementing income from other jobs and a small number are local college students. There are a lot of single parents out there dancing while their kids are in school, day care, or being watched by an SO or relative. Realistically, dancing is a lot like a professional athletic career. Eventually, there will be an endpoint. The older dancers tend to extend their careers through augmentation; personality; persistence or aggression; and occasionally more GFE. The smarter dancers plan ahead for a post-dancing career.

So, if you're pining for the great times in Miami, Atlanta or Houston, you're unlikely to duplicate that in Phoenix. Either book a flight, or get out to the Phoenix clubs and find those gems.

Personally, I like to find dancers who are personable, give me a thrill, treat me nice, and don't try to drain my wallet when I see them. In return, I become a repeat customer, treat them nicely, buy them drinks, and not be a tightwad. This approach has opened many possibilities for me. You may have other opinions.

As for what I post, I've mentioned before that I try to be discreet and not associate particular acts with named dancers, and sometimes try not to be too specific about the club. I know for a fact LE monitors this forum and I don't want to figuratively hang neon signs somewhere pointing to particular dancers. I may say a dancer unzipped me and wanted to bareback on the fourth song but I'm not going to say her name or the club. Occasionally I reply to PMs from regular veteran posters.

The situation in Tucson is completely different. It appears LE down there doesn't really care a whole lot unless a club has a shooting or becomes a drug den. AFAIK only one club has been shut down in the last 20 years. Later it was resurrected under a new name but the club continues its wild reputation.

Higgs.I would say all your points are correct. It's just shocking to see that this is one of the biggest cities in the USA operates like it was a bible belt town in Beaufort, South Carolina solely regarding the strip club scene. IMO I think the LE thing is a stretch. You guys are giving yourself a little too much credit. Most likely you have somebody who views this forum and goes reports to LE. I definitely think that is most likely the scenario from what of some posts I've read in this forum. The whole treating them like gf's and over paying is crazy. You may as well go to another bar. You can get the convo and everything without treating like a gf. I stay away from the ones that talk money every other sentence because they are usually scammers. It is what it is.

Extremely surprising from what I've heard from people who've been to Tuscon and what Shy Nine said. You think it would the other way around since Phoenix is much bigger and supposedly faster city. Definitely will be going there. I still will warn people about Phoenix though. I don't want them to waste money and time. That's what this forum is for.

DrPoon
11-17-17, 07:47
What is the top wildest club in Tucson called?

If ever in Tucson I can check it out although estimating the cost of gas there and back I could just get a BBBJCIM here instead.

Tucson is a good waypoint when taking the Amtrak to BUR because there is a direct stopping point there at the airport there.


I never ask these strippers what their plans are. I mean personally I'm not into talking to them like that. I've had strippers here in Phoenix get mad at me because I cut them short. I have an agenda. Either you are sucking or fucking or go the fuck away. In Phoenix, Vegas and Cali from my experience, they love to find that sucker that will chat them up and pay them for doing that. I once had a dumb ass stripper tell me she got paid $300 from a guy just from talking to her. She was from Phoenix, so I was like I bet you expect that to happen regularly. I asked her how many times has that happened for you. She was like 3 times. I thought she was lying, but overall three times and you expect that some idiot will do that do you consistently?

I think Tuscon will be the spot for me as long as I live in AZ. I checked out the thread and it's some good info and way more people posting on their that have great stories. On the Phoenix thread there are only like three members that consistently post, but they have very lame and uninteresting info.

Higgs Boson
11-17-17, 19:08
What is the top wildest club in Tucson called?Skim through the Tucson club section. It won't be difficult to pick out.

Higgs.

SuperSweet
11-18-17, 21:52
Skim through the Tucson club section. It won't be difficult to pick out.

Higgs.They have closed curtains at Venom all the time for there VIP. The only time they'll enter is if your time pager has expired, or a dancer turns the flashing red light on when she's in trouble. Raiders and Curves isn't so private, but they really don't care if the fun fun is happening. As long as the club is making money and the dancers are paying the necessary employees they will always look the other way. Tds East is similar to that as well. And I'm assuming that Tds West is the same way, but unclear.

Head Banger
11-25-17, 15:58
Extremely surprising from what I've heard from people who've been to Tuscon and what Shy Nine said. You think it would the other way around since Phoenix is much bigger and supposedly faster city. Definitely will be going there. I still will warn people about Phoenix though. I don't want them to waste money and time. That's what this forum is for.It goes down to demographics. The Phoenix area is heavily tilted red. Tucson has been hardcore blue for the past 4 decades plus. The Tucson scene is small and quality isn't as good as you'd find in bigger cities. I think the Airbase and University populate many of the Tucson clubs; hence their close proximity to those places.

Not sure what's going on with Phoenix. We used to be more of a fiscal conservative place, but LEO has been coming down so hard on the fun trade that Dallas, Austin, and Houston are better cities for fun than here.

Seems like the best places for fun are hardcore blue cities. One nice thing about Phx is how close we are to LA, Bay Area, and Vegas. Locals just need to be careful like Higgs says.

Crazie
11-29-17, 02:57
Anyone have the experience of a WYP woman or anyone else asking for money through a cash app? Was supposed to finally hook up today but she canceled due to having her period. Then tonight got a text that she needed a $25 loan til Friday and could I send it through an app. No way am I giving anybody cash electronically. Been trying to hook up but could not connect due to schedules. Thinking about it, she could have offered something else if on her period so obviously she is stringing me along. I do not plan to meet up with her.

Jamesj
11-29-17, 10:57
Anyone have the experience of a WYP woman or anyone else asking for money through a cash app? Was supposed to finally hook up today but she canceled due to having her period. Then tonight got a text that she needed a $25 loan til Friday and could I send it through an app. No way am I giving anybody cash electronically. Been trying to hook up but could not connect due to schedules. Thinking about it, she could have offered something else if on her period so obviously she is stringing me along. I do not plan to meet up with her.When they ask you to send (wire) or what ever method the new scam is to send money, play their game!

Start asking them for personal info (full name, exact mailing address, birth date, phone number etc). Convincing them you will send the MONEY, but wanting to make sure it gets to the right place.

They are so naive, they think you are actually going to send it!

Then tell them you've made the transfer. Tell them you have an Email / receipt verification.

They will go ballistic trying to find out why it is NOT in their account!

Then end the fun by sending them a PICTURE of some 20's, 50's or 100's (have several pics of the green backs I keep).

Politely tell them, they get the cash after your dick is rammed down their throat or crammed up their Pussy!.

I get a kick out of the responses, accusing ME of being the SCAMMER! (LOL).

JAMESJ.

Higgs Boson
11-30-17, 23:22
I promised Bigtim47 that I would report on a gathering from about 3 weeks ago. That will happen soon but first this:

The city hearing regarding Centerfolds was supposed to happen in October. It was postponed and is now happening Dec 1 (tomorrow). My sources believe the city will put off making a decision until January or perhaps February. I met a dancer at Essex last night (Wednesday) who seemed very excited about the club reopening and claimed it would happen in January. We'll see.

Meanwhile, one of the signs in front of Centerfolds has been repaired and replaced. A couple of weeks ago there was a cable truck parked by the open front door.

I noticed the Christies' on Northern (formerly Pink) is fenced off and has a construction dumpster in front. The Christies' signs in front and at the parking lot entrance are intact. I checked the tea leaves but the reading was murky. No idea what these things might indicate.

I pulled up to Minks last night (Wednesday) around 8:30 PM to see an otherwise empty parking lot and a locked front door. All those relatively new flashing outside neon signs were ablaze. Lights are on but nobody's home. Two other vehicles pulled into the parking lot and left. I don't get the management of this club. Even with no dancers, surely they could have even one person open the place, serve some cheap beer, and play some canned music. I'll say more about my experience from last week in another post.

Earlier last evening I drove by the club that is near 37 Ave and McDowell. It's had various names. Currently the signs says Strokers and something about being a premier nude establishment. One car outside. Didn't stop.

Higgs.

Deboinair
12-01-17, 04:44
Anyone have the experience of a WYP woman or anyone else asking for money through a cash app? Was supposed to finally hook up today but she canceled due to having her period. Then tonight got a text that she needed a $25 loan til Friday and could I send it through an app. No way am I giving anybody cash electronically. Been trying to hook up but could not connect due to schedules. Thinking about it, she could have offered something else if on her period so obviously she is stringing me along. I do not plan to meet up with her.This has actually going on for about 4 or more years to my knowledge. I remember seeing BP ads for Paypal and other apps. The success rate isn't good because most of the escorts don't do it. I mean you pay first without seeing them and getting services? You would have to be a slow one to do this.

Deboinair
12-01-17, 04:51
It goes down to demographics. The Phoenix area is heavily tilted red. Tucson has been hardcore blue for the past 4 decades plus. The Tucson scene is small and quality isn't as good as you'd find in bigger cities. I think the Airbase and University populate many of the Tucson clubs; hence their close proximity to those places.

Not sure what's going on with Phoenix. We used to be more of a fiscal conservative place, but LEO has been coming down so hard on the fun trade that Dallas, Austin, and Houston are better cities for fun than here.

Seems like the best places for fun are hardcore blue cities. One nice thing about Phx is how close we are to LA, Bay Area, and Vegas. Locals just need to be careful like Higgs says.I don't think that demographics has anything to do with it. Like was touched on before, most strippers in Phx are part time. They have full time jobs and strip on the side. So that is part of the reason why you get the whole gf regular bar act out here. The men are to blame because they condone it. So even the ones that are full time copy the part time strippers with service. But overall both are lazy as hell. I'm sorry I'm not chasing a funky ass stripper to talk to in a strip club. Makes no sense.

So the dark secret out there is a lot of these PHX strippers LOVE coke. Easy to get extras if you have it, but myself personally I don't fuck with that. When I say I'm from Miami, they think cocaine cowboys. Once I tell them I'm not into that their attitude changes quick. So basically you got to treat them like a gf or have nose candy for faster transactions. This is not what I encounter with strippers from out of town they want those green backs no trades. Ha ha.

Dick North
12-21-17, 16:57
Stopped in yesterday early afternoon returning from a trip up North. The place was devoid of customers and maybe 6-7 dancers. A couple of attractive AA's and the rest were 5-6's.
Sat at the bar and ordered a 'beverage'. I was soon approached by a '5-6' and endured the process of the "Hi what's your name" routine and was thinking of finishing my 'beverage' and leaving.
Then the dj announced "Eureka on stage next". Well this is the Filipina munchkin that I saw earlier this year. So I sat at the stage and visited with her. Ended up in VIP. She says she works every day (yeah right!)
Deal is $20 to enter and $25 per song. Rather extreme for a place with no customers. Anyway, did a few with her and was disappointed at her performance.
I live too far away to explore more talent here, but there must be a reason for so many dancers, so I will probably return at some point.
DN.

DrPoon
12-25-17, 06:34
This ad claims to give free rides to strip clubs. Then apparently claims a discount for entry fees to $10, which however I think could be a scam because it should never cost more than $10 to get in, ideally a strip club should be printing coupons in the New Times for free entry.

So anyway the ad goes on to say if five people then the fifth one will have his entry fee paid for free. So then of course how to get back home? I believe the bus starts running at 5 am and the light rail at 4 am so I think just stay there until about 4 am then get a one day bus card from Circle K and use it to get back.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/rid/d/free-ride-to-strip-club-1-2/6410170138.html

SuperSweet
12-27-17, 02:46
This ad claims to give free rides to strip clubs. Then apparently claims a discount for entry fees to $10, which however I think could be a scam because it should never cost more than $10 to get in, ideally a strip club should be printing coupons in the New Times for free entry.

So anyway the ad goes on to say if five people then the fifth one will have his entry fee paid for free. So then of course how to get back home? I believe the bus starts running at 5 am and the light rail at 4 am so I think just stay there until about 4 am then get a one day bus card from Circle K and use it to get back.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/rid/d/free-ride-to-strip-club-1-2/6410170138.htmlWe all know that nothing is truly FREE. I heard that the Christies in Tucson used to give the Taxi person 5 dollars per person from the club. So I believe that these Uber- Lyft ladies defiantly have an arrangement with these selected clubs. Either they're sharing the 10 with the club, or splitting it. Either way, not a bad deal for both parties involved. Or I should say ALL parties involved. And maybe. Just maybe these drivers are ex or present strippers or Escorts. This way they could imply or just come out and say if the men need additional companionship after the club, she's got it covered. MmmmmM.

WhoMe111
12-30-17, 09:55
I had some time to kill on a Friday afternoon so I decided to stop in at HiLiter. I pulled into the parking lot and it was packed including the back dirt area all the way over to Highland. I knew there would be no tables available so I headed to tier 2 - Bandaids. I had to pay a cover but that's life. It was the usual group of heavyweights and one or two that were somewhat OK. I did get a couple of OK dances from a somewhat attractive little Latina. I decided to bail and one the way home I thought about Sugar 44 where my old friend China works (Wed-Fri). She is not the best looking but I have known her long enough that she gives me a LOT of opportunity to have fun. Every time I go in there the first girl to hit on me (and I always forget what she looks like) is the only one that wears pasties. She is not bad looking and always gets a dance out of me and she is never very good. I had one and I only had 20's so I handed it to her and she started to walk away. When I ask for change she acted surprised but gave it to me. China came down from VIP and spotted me and came right over. We talked for a while to catch up and I had a couple of dances before she had to go on stage. I was out of funds at that point so I headed out.

The last couple of times I have been to HL the girls seem to be restrictive as to what can be touched during a floor dance. The say the rules have always been there but they are now being enforced.

Dick North
12-30-17, 20:13
I had some time to kill on a Friday afternoon so I decided to stop in at HiLiter. I pulled into the parking lot and it was packed including the back dirt area all the way over to Highland. I knew there would be no tables available so I headed to tier 2 - Bandaids. I had to pay a cover but that's life. It was the usual group of heavyweights and one or two that were somewhat OK. I did get a couple of OK dances from a somewhat attractive little Latina. I decided to bail and one the way home I thought about Sugar 44 where my old friend China works (Wed-Fri). She is not the best looking but I have known her long enough that she gives me a LOT of opportunity to have fun. Every time I go in there the first girl to hit on me (and I always forget what she looks like) is the only one that wears pasties. She is not bad looking and always gets a dance out of me and she is never very good. I had one and I only had 20's so I handed it to her and she started to walk away. When I ask for change she acted surprised but gave it to me. China came down from VIP and spotted me and came right over. We talked for a while to catch up and I had a couple of dances before she had to go on stage. I was out of funds at that point so I headed out.

The last couple of times I have been to HL the girls seem to be restrictive as to what can be touched during a floor dance. The say the rules have always been there but they are now being enforced.Wow I could have written your post. We have similar SC 'tracks'. I also am a good friend of China, known her for many years. A smart lady who spent her earnings wisely as opposed to many dancers who 'invest' in outfits, tats, drugs etc.
Don't know the girl with pasties, but do know several others as they also know where my wallet is!
Take care.
DN.

Bigtim47
01-01-18, 01:09
Gentlemen,

A long overdue report from my clubbing back in Nov. I met up with Dave at Bourbon on the Saturday night before Halloween. A crazy night for Bourbon. There was a noticeable lack of dancers on a Saturday. So much so that they did not do the 9 PM "girls, girls, girls" introduction. Usual Saturday nights have about 25 to 30 dancers. This just goes to prove that you cannot judge a club by one or two visits. Evidently many dancers were at Halloween parties. Remember, they are "independent contractors", heavy on independent! Disappointed for a Saturday night!

So Dave decides that we should check out his new favorite club. Sugar 44, just down the street onThomas. I had only been there once in the afternoon years ago, so this was OK, I guess. As we sat at a table we were soon approached by 2 dancers. Working as a tag team. I got the really large one. Within a few minutes my leg was sore from all her weight on my lap, so I buy one dance just to have her move on. Table dances, it seems, are very limited touching. Later a veteran Latina, very hot, stops by. Pierced nips, which I don't care for. I buy dances, but pass on the promises of much more fun in VIP. I hate the idea of buying a $20 wrist band

Later on a Tuesday or Wednesday, Dave and I meet up with Higgs for an evening at Hi-Liter. Newbie80 shows up later. Our group always has fun visiting. A nice mix of dancers from 4's to a few 8's. Sorry I can't remember any names, but we had a good time. $10 lap dances on the floor are hard to beat. Contact varied from dancer to dancer, but we did not notice any general restrictions as some have mentioned. Higgs always seems to run into a dancer that he knows, usually from another club.

The whole concept of VIP still bothers me at Hi-Liter. I hate seeing a floor guy running around with the clip-board counting dances in VIP. Also you can only be in there for the song, not early at the end of a prior song. They're just fricken bean counters. The club gets $5 for each dance. I hate paying the club that. I will admit though, fun can be had in VIP with certain dancers.

Now I'm looking forward to my next visit in mid January. Higgs, Dave, and I have somewhat different ideas of our ideal body types, but our visits are always fun no matter the club. Usually I'm solo going to clubs. Maybe we should try out some clubs that I have never been to before? Jaguars? Candy Store? Higgs has been my tour guide in the past. Recommendations please.

WhoMe111
01-01-18, 09:22
Gentlemen,

A long overdue report from my clubbing back in Nov. I met up with Dave at Bourbon on the Saturday night before Halloween. A crazy night for Bourbon. There was a noticeable lack of dancers on a Saturday. So much so that they did not do the 9 PM "girls, girls, girls" introduction. Usual Saturday nights have about 25 to 30 dancers. This just goes to prove that you cannot judge a club by one or two visits. Evidently many dancers were at Halloween parties. Remember, they are "independent contractors", heavy on independent! Disappointed for a Saturday night!

So Dave decides that we should check out his new favorite club. Sugar 44, just down the street onThomas. I had only been there once in the afternoon years ago, so this was OK, I guess. As we sat at a table we were soon approached by 2 dancers. Working as a tag team. I got the really large one. Within a few minutes my leg was sore from all her weight on my lap, so I buy one dance just to have her move on. Table dances, it seems, are very limited touching. Later a veteran Latina, very hot, stops by. Pierced nips, which I don't care for. I buy dances, but pass on the promises of much more fun in VIP. I hate the idea of buying a $20 wrist band

Later on a Tuesday or Wednesday, Dave and I meet up with Higgs for an evening at Hi-Liter. Newbie80 shows up later. Our group always has fun visiting. A nice mix of dancers from 4's to a few 8's. Sorry I can't remember any names, but we had a good time. $10 lap dances on the floor are hard to beat. Contact varied from dancer to dancer, but we did not notice any general restrictions as some have mentioned. Higgs always seems to run into a dancer that he knows, usually from another club.

The whole concept of VIP still bothers me at Hi-Liter. I hate seeing a floor guy running around with the clip-board counting dances in VIP. Also you can only be in there for the song, not early at the end of a prior song. They're just fricken bean counters. The club gets $5 for each dance. I hate paying the club that. I will admit though, fun can be had in VIP with certain dancers.

Now I'm looking forward to my next visit in mid January. Higgs, Dave, and I have somewhat different ideas of our ideal body types, but our visits are always fun no matter the club. Usually I'm solo going to clubs. Maybe we should try out some clubs that I have never been to before? Jaguars? Candy Store? Higgs has been my tour guide in the past. Recommendations please.The last time I was at Candy Store the dancers were not that attractive and no touching at all. Hands at your side. And a $20 entry for VIP.

Peacekeeper
01-03-18, 13:56
I haven't been to blue moon in a long while. Can anyone recommend me some of the girls there please? I'm usually go in the afternoon. Thanks all.

SuperBad69
01-04-18, 01:30
I live down the street from it and it is the only game close by. I thought I might swing by there sometime. I've been there before but its been at least 4 years I think. Anyone have any info about this place recently?

JJonesXX
01-05-18, 03:37
It makes sense that the girls on tour would habe their shit together and not be into drungs so much.


I don't think that demographics has anything to do with it. Like was touched on before, most strippers in Phx are part time. They have full time jobs and strip on the side. So that is part of the reason why you get the whole gf regular bar act out here. The men are to blame because they condone it. So even the ones that are full time copy the part time strippers with service. But overall both are lazy as hell. I'm sorry I'm not chasing a funky ass stripper to talk to in a strip club. Makes no sense.

So the dark secret out there is a lot of these PHX strippers LOVE coke. Easy to get extras if you have it, but myself personally I don't fuck with that. When I say I'm from Miami, they think cocaine cowboys. Once I tell them I'm not into that their attitude changes quick. So basically you got to treat them like a gf or have nose candy for faster transactions. This is not what I encounter with strippers from out of town they want those green backs no trades. Ha ha..

Dick North
01-05-18, 19:04
It makes sense that the girls on tour would habe their shit together and not be into drungs so much.
.What do 'habe' and 'drungs' mean in the English vocabulary?
And are all strippers in Phoenix 'on tour'?
DN.

JJonesXX
01-05-18, 22:44
*have. *drugs.


What do 'habe' and 'drungs' mean in the English vocabulary?
And are all strippers in Phoenix 'on tour'?
DN..

DrPoon
01-05-18, 22:53
I haven't been to blue moon in a long while. Can anyone recommend me some of the girls there please? I'm usually go in the afternoon. Thanks all.I don't think this place is a high service club because I think they have started mind control on their strippers to only provide CBJ, when or if extras are offered in or out of the club.

I remember years ago a girl who currently works there, but did not work there years ago. Was an atf at that time. First met her from craigslist. Apparently she was living in a pimps apartment alone because the pimp was put back in prison after parole revoked. So then I met her another time at her mom's apartment after she moved back home. Good times. Alas, the last time I got ahold of her she claims the CBJ is the only way so I wrote her off my list.

SuperSweet
01-06-18, 01:48
It makes sense that the girls on tour would habe their shit together and not be into drungs so much.

.Most of the strippers in Tucson strip at night and sleep all day. Part time at best so that stripping isn't reported. Just a little work so that they can work the system.

Bborgtfo
01-06-18, 12:01
Stopped by dream palace around 2 am dances are 15 no touching VIP available for way too much.

Azbow
01-07-18, 10:03
I haven't been to blue moon in a long while. Can anyone recommend me some of the girls there please? I'm usually go in the afternoon. Thanks all.I've been wanting to try BM. Can anyone please let me know about the dance prices there?

JJonesXX
01-08-18, 00:17
Most of the strippers in Tucson strip at night and sleep all day. Part time at best so that stripping isn't reported. Just a little work so that they can work the system.More power to them. But at the end of the day I'd hope they could give up the habit and lead a fulfilling life. Isn't it fun while the last though?

TwinTurbos
01-09-18, 06:44
I've been wanting to try BM. Can anyone please let me know about the dance prices there?Before 7:00 pm, lap dances are 3 for $46. After 7 pm, the lap dances become $25 per song. The first two songs they sit and chat with you and the last song is when they dance for you.

WhoMe111
01-09-18, 10:22
I stopped in yesterday afternoon for a little are&are. I hardly had my but in a seat and got hit on by a girl that I did not find attractive. I was rather irritated after a long day and told her not now I just need a beer. I got my beer and all of a sudden I'm getting a back rub from I don't know who (I hate it when they come up behind me) and she says I see you got you beer. I said I don't need a back rub at which point she went off on me for being rude. I apologized just to get rid of her.

A few min later this little sweetheart sits down next to me and says "Do you remember me?" - I had to say remind me and she told me Centerfolds. She did not remember my name but did remember that I have a house in the mountains. That boosted my ego a bit. We talked for a while and I then got a couple of dances. She told me the rules (No boobs in face, no touching, no showing V or AH LOL) are being enforced because they are trying to get the license for Centerfolds and don't want any violations.

I then had a couple of dances from a hot little Latina who tried to get me to VIP with promises of how talented her tongue is. The budget did not support this offer so I had to pass.

Deboinair
01-11-18, 23:09
It makes sense that the girls on tour would habe their shit together and not be into drungs so much.

.They like the drugs, but money is more important. Just met a sweet slim redbone from Jags a few weeks back. Looked similar to Sonequa Martin-Green. She's from Ohio was about business. OTC was on the menu and I happy partook. Ha ha She said she had stops in Oregon and Cali before she headed back home to Michigan. Phoenix strippers are dumb and always complain about being broke. I stay far away from them.

Mrmikers
01-12-18, 23:16
I stopped in yesterday afternoon for a little are&are. I hardly had my but in a seat and got hit on by a girl that I did not find attractive. I was rather irritated after a long day and told her not now I just need a beer. I got my beer and all of a sudden I'm getting a back rub from I don't know who (I hate it when they come up behind me) and she says I see you got you beer. I said I don't need a back rub at which point she went off on me for being rude. I apologized just to get rid of her.

A few min later this little sweetheart sits down next to me and says "Do you remember me?" - I had to say remind me and she told me Centerfolds. She did not remember my name but did remember that I have a house in the mountains. That boosted my ego a bit. We talked for a while and I then got a couple of dances. She told me the rules (No boobs in face, no touching, no showing V or AH LOL) are being enforced because they are trying to get the license for Centerfolds and don't want any violations.

I then had a couple of dances from a hot little Latina who tried to get me to VIP with promises of how talented her tongue is. The budget did not support this offer so I had to pass.Can you give anymore details about this hot little Latina? Sounds like my kind of girl. Thin or curvy? Hair style, breast size?

Mtnboy49
01-14-18, 18:37
I've been wanting to try BM. Can anyone please let me know about the dance prices there?Sure thing every day is Clover.

I am swearing off BM. Just depresses me any more. Dark, music is depressingly the same. There is some interaction then, after paying the 46 entrance fee, 2 songs by your side then 1 song on shins on the thighs to complete the " dance".

Clover does provide a bit of intimacy with kisses and makes things available to play with. No doesn't seem to be in the vocabulary. Even so, sorta mechanical.

Lyle416
01-15-18, 01:54
I really like Clover. But last time I saw her she was looking bit more heavier downright sloppy.

Hambone78
01-15-18, 15:10
Stopped by Friday around 3 pm. Good sized crowd, usual Friday afternoon Hispanic (mostly) clientele and dancers. Didn't see any white / Asian / AA dancers today. All Hispanic or Cuban. Parking used to be a *****, but now they open those back metal gates and have an attendant out there so you can park in the dirt lot. He waters the lot down so its not dusty, and is out there watching the cars etc. I always tip him a few bucks on my way out. Inside of Chicas, they got rid of the carpet and the floor is now like a pergo / wooden tile type floor. Looks a lot better and the dancers said it doesn't smell like the old carpet did. Got a few dances from my girl Estrella. Great as usual. Love her MILF body with those huge tits! Can't be beat. Dances are very "friendly". Chicas had a small stretch of "hands off", but the last few times I went, its definitely back to normal. Stayed for about an hour and was on my way. Every top of the hour, they run all the girls on stage and then offer 2 songs for $5. 00 each. Good deal. This is my spot, and will continue to be my spot. Always have a good time here!

TenFootDong
01-24-18, 14:09
Reading this forum would make you think Phoenix is where fun goes to die. While it isn't Florida, there's plenty of fun to be had! You just can't be too direct about it with the girls since the popo does occasionally go undercover into clubs. As long as the girls are confident you aren't a duche cop, the opportunities are plentiful. There are a lot of time wasters that talk the talk and don't deliver, but being able to find the gems is just part of the mongering game. I actually think Phoenix clubs are great! With regards to not posting too many details on here for fear of the fun being shut down, I would personally rather read juicy details and not have names or locations mentioned as I believe fun can be had at most clubs around the valley with the right girl. YMMV of course. Juicy details post coming soon!

TenFootDong
01-24-18, 14:44
So a buddy of mine has a theory that you get better treatment from the girls if you go at slow times of the day or week. So about a month ago he went to some club at mid afternoon during the week. None of the girls really caught his attention until a hot Latina went on stage. A 7. 5 he said. He went up and tipped her, and sparks flew. He knew he needed to take her to VIP. Luckily there wasn't anyone else in the VIP area. As soon as they chose a seat it was a mutual grope fest-makeout session with fiv. At song #2 junior came out and she proceeded to mount him, and ride him like there was no tomorrow! Damage was $. 6 and she was up for round 2 but he was spent. He has only seen her there that one time though. On to the next one!

StopIt
01-26-18, 19:43
I went to Blue Moon on Thursday night. I had been to Blue Moon many times in the past and I liked it as a high mileage club. Times have changed. I was informed upon entering that the format has changed. The girls no longer get fully nude on stage, they only get topless. If you want to see them nude you have to take them to the private room. Private dances are now only $25 but they are only topless. If you want the old style full nude full contact dance you have to take them to the private room which costs $300 for 15 minutes, $500 for a half hour. This is utter rediculous. It appears that Blue Moon is transforming from a night club into one of the rip off incall establishments that are all over Phoenix. I stayed in the place maybe 15 minutes and left. It was a wasted $12 cover fee and $3 for the bottled water I got. Over the years I have been a faithful customer of the Blue Moon. In the past I have even dated dancers who worked at the Blue Moon. No longer! Blue Moon has lost one of its long time customers! Avoid this place like the plague!

Az Hobby Habit
01-26-18, 20:27
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DoToDont
01-27-18, 11:21
Your friend is pulling your leg.

Some club, some girl, never seen her again.

I have a bridge to sell. Please PM me.


So a buddy of mine has a theory that you get better treatment from the girls if you go at slow times of the day or week. So about a month ago he went to some club at mid afternoon during the week. None of the girls really caught his attention until a hot Latina went on stage. A 7. 5 he said. He went up and tipped her, and sparks flew. He knew he needed to take her to VIP. Luckily there wasn't anyone else in the VIP area. As soon as they chose a seat it was a mutual grope fest-makeout session with fiv. At song #2 junior came out and she proceeded to mount him, and ride him like there was no tomorrow! Damage was $. 6 and she was up for round 2 but he was spent. He has only seen her there that one time though. On to the next one!

Peacekeeper
01-27-18, 12:22
I went to Blue Moon on Thursday night. I had been to Blue Moon many times in the past and I liked it as a high mileage club. Times have changed. I was informed upon entering that the format has changed. The girls no longer get fully nude on stage, they only get topless. If you want to see them nude you have to take them to the private room. Private dances are now only $25 but they are only topless. If you want the old style full nude full contact dance you have to take them to the private room which costs $300 for 15 minutes, $500 for a half hour. This is utter rediculous. It appears that Blue Moon is transforming from a night club into one of the rip off incall establishments that are all over Phoenix. I stayed in the place maybe 15 minutes and left. It was a wasted $12 cover fee and $3 for the bottled water I got. Over the years I have been a faithful customer of the Blue Moon. In the past I have even dated dancers who worked at the Blue Moon. No longer! Blue Moon has lost one of its long time customers! Avoid this place like the plague!That is really disappointing to hear what blue moon has transformed into. I'm a regular afternoon customer there for a while but I haven't been in a short while. I guess I'll be searching for the place to go.

Lyle416
01-28-18, 03:17
Day shift is still the same. But yes, the night shifft has vastly changed for the worse.

TenFootDong
01-29-18, 23:02
Your friend is pulling your leg.

Some club, some girl, never seen her again.

I have a bridge to sell. Please PM me.I do know the name of the club and the girl but I'm not going to include it in a post with that much other detail in it.

Higgs Boson
01-30-18, 01:00
Had a dinner with a friend Sunday night on the West side. It was still relatively early when it finished so I decided to hit a couple clubs. Turned out to be four.

Went to Essex arriving around 8:30 PM. The place was pretty empty and there perhaps 5 dancers. Things picked up a little with the start of the drink specials at 9 PM. Got a single dance with Lexy before she had to take the stage. She didn't return and I felt it was time to move on even though some dancers appear late in the evening.

So perhaps around 9:30 I entered The Alaskan Bush Company. You may have observed an ad in the New Times announcing this place had new ownership. I decided to check it out. I heard that the club was for sale and at least one local club owner decided the asking price was too high. I believe the new ownership is associated with Dream Palace and Elite Cabaret. (that alone says, watch out) If you've been in ABC before, it hasn't changed with the new ownership in any shape or form. The place is still a dump. The alaskan theme might have been somewhat cute when it opened 25+ years ago but not anymore. If you've visited other areas of the US, imagine visiting your childhood buddy's semi-finished basement with the pool table. But not as classy. Add in some chunky trailer park strippers, and that's what get. And the dances are worthless. It's still a place with security hovering nearby. I stood at the bar on the topless side and watched them.

I thought some fun might be in order when I almost literally bumped into a dark dancer when I made my way between the topless and nude sides. She gave me a promising smile. On the nude side, this dancer named Seven said she was about to take the stage and I told her I'd wait. She had a shape I find especially nice: slender / fit with full B cups. When she returned we started dances. Part of the time was spent with a full 3-4 feet distance between us (my thoughts: WTF? When she finally spent some time on my lap, any attempt to touch her on her hips or legs was rejected. When she turned and faced a security guy, she nodded to him, and I could see what was coming. That was his cue to walk over and chastise me. The fact that she signaled him to come over, said nothing worthwhile would come from additional time or money. I gave her money for the two dances and she asked if we were done. Me, outloud: "We're done", and I walked out to my car.

Feeling unsatisfied and unfulfilled, I decided to go the short distance to nearby Dirty's (formerly Teasers and Stilettos). Sometimes I've run into a real gem here. Tonight, hmmm, not so much. I did get some pleasant dances with a dancer whose name escapes me at the moment. Yes, pleasant dances but nothing very exciting. It was time to move on to a club that usually does it for me.

I entered Bandaids perhaps around 11 PM and there on the bar stage was one of my all time faves. In short, we spent the next two hours hanging out, getting caught up, and getting involved in, let's call it: "interpretive dance".

In summary, an evening after dinner that was looking really dismal but with a good ending.

Higgs.

PoopSnicker
01-30-18, 16:53
That is really disappointing to hear what blue moon has transformed into. I'm a regular afternoon customer there for a while but I haven't been in a short while. I guess I'll be searching for the place to go.I used to go to the moon when I went to ASU. It was the club IGot the most play.

For the least. I went again last year this time and had great fun. Now it is a giant ripoff.

Tucson is far better for strip clubs.

Deboinair
02-02-18, 11:05
I do know the name of the club and the girl but I'm not going to include it in a post with that much other detail in it.Then basically you're telling an uninformative story. I guess the name USA sex guide means tell the least info in the Phoenix forum. It's amazing how literally this is the only forum that does that. Podunk Missouri forum even has better info.

Bigtim47
02-05-18, 02:12
Last November on a Wednesday night the gang of three met at Bourbon Street. Higgs' suggestion, even though it is not his favorite club. We usually meet at Hi-Liter, but things have been too spotty there lately. New rules it seems for the $10 chair dances, maybe? I had done earlier recon at Bourbon and found quite a few "natural boobie" dancers. More than you might suspect. Things are changing if you haven't been in lately.

I did find a couple of dancers that would be just right for Dave. Slate is a former pro volleyball player, tall and smart. Tanner, her friend, is even more naturally endowed and connected more with Dave. Since I don't get out to AZ that often, we had a lot to catch up on, so talk was free and we were able to actually hear each other. Fun times.

With $20 dances in VIP (no wrist bans, or an extra 5 to the house each time), and fair drink prices and entry fee. - my favorite club in AZ. Guess I'm not much of a hardcore monger, but my sugar baby keeps me happy. Back again in March. Always enjoy reading everyone's exploits.

Question. While I almost always go clubbing alone, except for the gang of three, how many others usually go solo?

Arizona Junkie
02-05-18, 09:52
Thanks BT, I always go to SCs solo, unless I'm doing something like a sporting event with a co-worker. Even then, they don't know the extent of my SC addiction or activity, so I try to play dumb, but that can backfire if a bunch of dancers show up at your table, calling you by name and acting like they've known you for years (which some have)! BSC is also my current favorite club in Phoenix, have several favorites there on both day and night shift. The gang of 3 might be fun to hang with sometime, just for grins, but I will mostly stick to my solo adventures! Happy clubbing!


Last November on a Wednesday night the gang of three met at Bourbon Street. Higgs' suggestion, even though it is not his favorite club. We usually meet at Hi-Liter, but things have been too spotty there lately. New rules it seems for the $10 chair dances, maybe? I had done earlier recon at Bourbon and found quite a few "natural boobie" dancers. More than you might suspect. Things are changing if you haven't been in lately.

I did find a couple of dancers that would be just right for Dave. Slate is a former pro volleyball player, tall and smart. Tanner, her friend, is even more naturally endowed and connected more with Dave. Since I don't get out to AZ that often, we had a lot to catch up on, so talk was free and we were able to actually hear each other. Fun times.

With $20 dances in VIP (no wrist bans, or an extra 5 to the house each time), and fair drink prices and entry fee. - my favorite club in AZ. Guess I'm not much of a hardcore monger, but my sugar baby keeps me happy. Back again in March. Always enjoy reading everyone's exploits.

Question. While I almost always go clubbing alone, except for the gang of three, how many others usually go solo?

DrPoon
02-05-18, 10:43
Not safe to go alone. Minimum groups of three at least. Then, one should have a knife at least so he can throw it onto a table and then people scatter and give them the seats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2XdmyBtCRQ


Thanks BT, I always go to SCs solo, unless I'm doing something like a sporting event with a co-worker. Even then, they don't know the extent of my SC addiction or activity, so I try to play dumb, but that can backfire if a bunch of dancers show up at your table, calling you by name and acting like they've known you for years (which some have)! BSC is also my current favorite club in Phoenix, have several favorites there on both day and night shift. The gang of 3 might be fun to hang with sometime, just for grins, but I will mostly stick to my solo adventures! Happy clubbing!

TenFootDong
02-05-18, 21:23
Then basically you're telling an uninformative story. I guess the name USA sex guide means tell the least info in the Phoenix forum. It's amazing how literally this is the only forum that does that. Podunk Missouri forum even has better info.Thats true but I'm just going with the flow here. There are plenty of people posting about which clubs they get "the best millage" at. You just have to connect the dots. And considering that some local pigs think arresting strippers is more important than solving murders, a little discretion is probably good. Just a couple of months ago I heard from a stripper that the pigs went into Hi Liter and arrested 5 girls. Dam shame because I like Hi Liter, based on the attractiveness of the dancers / possibility of extras / cost, it's one of my favorites. Another one I like is Scores. If neither of those put a smile on my face then its time to start calling BP girls LOL.

Deboinair
02-07-18, 20:14
Thats true but I'm just going with the flow here. There are plenty of people posting about which clubs they get "the best millage" at. You just have to connect the dots. And considering that some local pigs think arresting strippers is more important than solving murders, a little discretion is probably good. Just a couple of months ago I heard from a stripper that the pigs went into Hi Liter and arrested 5 girls. Dam shame because I like Hi Liter, based on the attractiveness of the dancers / possibility of extras / cost, it's one of my favorites. Another one I like is Scores. If neither of those put a smile on my face then its time to start calling BP girls LOL.I think it's over exaggerated when you are talking about police arresting strippers. Hi Liter I frequent and the rest of the clubs they own. I've never heard one stripper say she got arrested for giving a "illegal" dance or for anything. Unless a cop just ran their I'd and they have warrants. The reason why Hi Liter maybe a little more strict is because they want to get Centerfolds open again. Not because there are these so called raids that are extremely exaggerated on here. I know this because I've actually been there after the so called raids posted on here and it was the same. My honest assessment is the few members want to keep a lot of the strippers to themselves. As I said before, a lot of guys in Phoenix treat these strippers like girlfriends and it is sad. They don't like you. They want your money or if you can do something for them.

Nobody is saying you have to say you have to go into super detail, but it's corny and uninformative to say some club or some girl. Shit the most important thing that is not reported is if a stripper is bad or a rip off. That warns the other mongers to stay away.

Deboinair
02-07-18, 20:22
Question. While I almost always go clubbing alone, except for the gang of three, how many others usually go solo?Solo is the best way to go here from what I found the hard way. Noted again. Guys from Phoenix are in love with these strippers like they are wife material. So if their favorite dancer gives you more attention they tend to get jealous. But if you have a good group than you are ok.

Dick North
02-20-18, 19:04
Visited today early afternoon and quite a more 'relaxed' experience.
Some cuter more petite dancers (at least 4) and extremely fun in the booths.
One dancer said she was from Cuba, so I wonder if they came in as a group.
Worth a revisit for sure.

DN.

WhoMe111
02-23-18, 09:08
I stopped in Highliter the other day to unwind a bit. I watched a reasonably attractive gal sit on a guys lap for a while making conversation and only had one or two dances. She approached me later and sat on my lap which was nice because I just wanted to relax. She ask if I would buy her a drink and I said sure even though I had limited funds that day. She ordered a "Dirty Shirley Temple with Grey Goose". She had to go on stage and would return. The drink came and the charge was $13. I was amazed. She came back and I told her I hoped she was getting commission on the drink. Spe apologized and said the waitress must have overcharged me. Plus her dance was not that great. I don't remember her name. Rather tall with small tits, one side was a little droopy.

Higgs Boson
02-25-18, 21:15
I stopped in Highliter the other day to unwind a bit. I watched a reasonably attractive gal sit on a guys lap for a while making conversation and only had one or two dances. She approached me later and sat on my lap which was nice because I just wanted to relax. She ask if I would buy her a drink and I said sure even though I had limited funds that day. She ordered a "Dirty Shirley Temple with Grey Goose". She had to go on stage and would return. The drink came and the charge was $13. I was amazed.Now you'll know for next time. This is typical if you order a mixed drink with a premium brand alcohol. You were not overcharged. At least not as a customer. Some clubs will charge less if a dancer orders a drink and is paying with her money but, in my experience, the dancer isn't ordering a drink with premium brand for her own money unless the club is running a "special". I've had a dancer or two tell me at Bandaids that she would order it and pay for it just for that reason, (we weren't standing or sitting together at the time of her drink order). Of course, I appreciate that and they end up getting more money from me anyway. Better spent on them than on the club. A couple of weeks ago, a dancer I've known for some time asked for a Crown & Cola. I said, "make it two" but I wasn't shocked when the server told me the final cost. I had a good idea what to expect.

Pro tip 1 (hah): if house versus premium brand booze makes no difference to you in your personal drinking, say "house" when the bartender asks.

Pro tip 2: you can always tell the dancer "no" when she specifies a premium brand. It's your money.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
02-25-18, 21:38
Way behind in my field reports but here's a start.

Centerfolds: the October 2017 hearing on reopening, already postposed from a month or two before, got postponed to December. Then commenced a five (5, yes, the typical digits found on one human hand) day hearing. There is another hearing scheduled for early March because, to paraphrase, "the judge didn't have enough time" during the previous hearing. (Judge here is likely an administrative judge rather than a trial judge).

Pink Rhino: the City of Phoenix is also stalling any action on the re-opening of this club. Seems the apartment residents across the street objected to the re-opening. For the record, the presence of a club there long predated the building of the apartments.

Personal opinion: the City can's tell a legitimate and lawful business they can't open but they sure can drag out the process and attempt to outlast the owner in time and legal costs. This was attempted with Teasers which had to move from 7th Ave and Camelback to make room for light rail construction. By law the City was required to assist affected businesses to relocate. Teasers (renamed Stilettos, now Dirty's) was eventually moved with City assistance to it's present location on Grand Ave.

Unknown nude club (as of this writing): I'm not usually a denizen of nude clubs, but last Sunday a dancer I really like texted me she was working that evening at the club at 3614 W. McDowell which was under new management. I was there in 30 minutes. Typical nude establishment, no-alcohol, $10 entry. Often customers at this type of club might be pressured to buy an overpriced non-alcoholic beverage but this didn't happen this evening. At 2 AM, two dancers, one at a time on stage but they weren't required to be on stage if there were no customers. I was the third customer when I arrived, the other two left, then replaced with another two for about 15 minutes. Then it was just me, my dancer, and a couple of club personnel. There was no sign with the name of the club that evening but I was told a sign was on order and to be installed very soon. Off stage lap dancing area is very public. I didn't see a private "VIP" area but seem to recall a small area set apart with a velvet rope. Not private.

Higgs.

Bigtim47
02-25-18, 22:37
Way behind in my field reports but here's a start.

Centerfolds: the October 2017 hearing on reopening, already postposed from a month or two before, got postponed to December. Then commenced a five (5, yes, the typical digits found on one human hand) day hearing. There is another hearing scheduled for early March because, to paraphrase, "the judge didn't have enough time" during the previous hearing. (Judge here is likely an administrative judge rather than a trial judge).

Pink Rhino: the City of Phoenix is also stalling any action on the re-opening of this club. Seems the apartment residents across the street objected to the re-opening. For the record, the presence of a club there long predated the building of the apartments.

Personal opinion: the City can's tell a legitimate and lawful business they can't open but they sure can drag out the process and attempt to outlast the owner in time and legal costs. This was attempted with Teasers which had to move from 7th Ave and Camelback to make room for light rail construction. By law the City was required to assist affected businesses to relocate. Teasers (renamed Stilettos, now Dirty's) was eventually moved with City assistance to it's present location on Grand Ave.

Unknown nude club (as of this writing): I'm not usually a denizen of nude clubs, but last Sunday a dancer I really like texted me she was working that evening at the club at 3614 W. McDowell which was under new management. I was there in 30 minutes. Typical nude establishment, no-alcohol, $10 entry. Often customers at this type of club might be pressured to buy an overpriced non-alcoholic beverage but this didn't happen this evening. At 2 AM, two dancers, one at a time on stage but they weren't required to be on stage if there were no customers. I was the third customer when I arrived, the other two left, then replaced with another two for about 15 minutes. Then it was just me, my dancer, and a couple of club personnel. There was no sign with the name of the club that evening but I was told a sign was on order and to be installed very soon. Off stage lap dancing area is very public. I didn't see a private "VIP" area but seem to recall a small area set apart with a velvet rope. Not private.

Higgs.Higgs,

Great report. I googled the address on google maps. Found out just where it was, but the name "Nubian dancers" shows up on the map. Old name for the club or new name??

See you in about 3 weeks to go clubbing Surprise me! BigTim.

Higgs Boson
02-26-18, 00:15
I googled the address on google maps. Found out just where it was, but the name "Nubian dancers" shows up on the map. Old name for the club or new name??I'm getting cabin fever here. I just might get cleaned up after a day of not getting things done and take a look. (ha).


See you in about 3 weeks to go clubbing Surprise me! BigTim.Hmm. As long it's not in Apache Junction or out by the AFB. Looking forward to it.

Higgs.

Bigtim47
02-26-18, 01:33
Just saw a report in the AZ newspaper that there was a shooting in the parking lot at the T&A club Sunday morning at 2 AM. One man died and two in the hospital, one serious and one minor injury (a women). Shooter on the loose.

Never been to this club and not sure I need to ever go. Higgs, what do you say?

General question to all. What are the ideal times you go clubbing?? I usually like from about 7 to 11 in the evenings, with some daytimes thrown in.

BigTim.

Deboinair
02-26-18, 11:09
I stopped in Highliter the other day to unwind a bit. I watched a reasonably attractive gal sit on a guys lap for a while making conversation and only had one or two dances. She approached me later and sat on my lap which was nice because I just wanted to relax. She ask if I would buy her a drink and I said sure even though I had limited funds that day. She ordered a "Dirty Shirley Temple with Grey Goose". She had to go on stage and would return. The drink came and the charge was $13. I was amazed. She came back and I told her I hoped she was getting commission on the drink. Spe apologized and said the waitress must have overcharged me. Plus her dance was not that great. I don't remember her name. Rather tall with small tits, one side was a little droopy.Never buy a drink for a dancer that is not your favorite or have good history with. When a stripper comes up and asks for a drink I always tell them no. I'm automatically turned off when they do that. I think right away that her services will suck not in a good way.

Hi Liter has ridiculous drink prices. They go up every year it seems. If you are there before 7 you can get well 2 for one. Everything else is over priced. I typically do my drinking at scores due to their drink specials. One drink per club after that when I club hop.

Higgs Boson
02-26-18, 16:42
Never buy a drink for a dancer that is not your favorite or have good history with. When a stripper comes up and asks for a drink I always tell them no. I'm automatically turned off when they do that. I think right away that her services will suck not in a good way.A good policy to follow. I might add, it might be OK if it's a dancer you'd like to eventually have a history with ;-)

Higgs.

StopIt
02-27-18, 04:13
This place has been under so many different owners over the years that it is hard to keep track of. For those of you that have been in Phoenix a long time it is the old Rumper Room. For a while it was Los Adelitas then it was Blue Moon West and then Velvet, then Strokers and now this new incarnation. I actually had a chance to buy this club out a few years ago. They offered to sell it to me for 120 k but I turned them down because I knew it was a bad investment. The area has significantly changed since the days of the old Rumper Room. The demographics in the area have changed and no longer will sustain a strip club. They will continue to find suckers out there that will rent the land (the land is owned by the same people that own the land the Blue Moon sits on) but it will always fail. There is not enough income in the area to support it anymore. I will guess the current incarnation will maybe last at most 1 yar.

Higgs Boson
02-27-18, 13:28
I dropped by a major chain theatre in Scottsdale to see an Academy Award nominee. After the film, I was pretty tired and not really in the mood for strip clubs but sometimes we have to do things to help the community. (LOL) So, take this report with a grain of salt, considering my mood for the evening. I may have been transmitting "don't bother me" vibes. With this mood, I decided to hit a couple of clubs I hadn't seen for awhile.

Bones: I headed for Bones (formerly Babes) because I hadn't been there since the change of ownership and remodel. Arrived around 9:30. Bones' basic interior is not greatly changed. The only real changes include the connection of the two stages into one elongated and shallow "J" shape, and the wallpapering of the entryway with rock and roll posters. Not a big change IMO. Near the outside entry is a sign saying "Rock and Roll Strip Club". Same entry fee of $10 on a Sunday night which is a rip off considering there were 3 passable dancers hanging out at the bar and talking. A couple more appeared from the back, presumably to start the their shift. I was the third customer, the other two seated at a table by the stage. One of new dancers flashed a smile in my direction but she was the only one who seemed to notice I was there. The bar maid was very slow in breaking off conversation to even ask if I wanted to a drink. If she had taken any longer, I would have just left, written off the cover charge, and not wasted any more time or money. Not much here on a Sunday night. As Babes, I usually would encounter a charmer to tempt me but not tonight at Bones. Time to leave. I could have gone a mile south to visit Skin but, been there, done that. Headed west on Thomas Rd to the next club.

Sugar 44: I haven't been here for quite a while. The good news here tonight was the bartender / manager. Usually that role in my visits is a jerk who acts like he's doing me a favor in filling my drink order. Instead, the bartender tonight had normal courtesy and promptness. It was probably the same on my last visit but I noticed that the lighting around the couch / lounges on the east side was much more subdued than I remembered. Ditto on the little lounging area in the SE corner. The dancers didn't look particularly special. Usually there is some truly over-the-hill dancer who pesters me for a dance and gets huffy when I say no. I didn't have that problem this evening. One beverage and it was time to move on. On Thomas, I genuflected as I passed BSC, spiritual home for BigTim, and continued West.

Bandaids: arrived perhaps around midnight. Usually this club has something to offer for me but lately it's been a disappointment. It's probably that occasional cycle when there are few new exciting dancers. I was in a dark mood and the dancers there did little to perk me up. I texted Fave 1 and said I was looking for her. She replied that she was at another club that evening and I departed Bandaids for the other place. Definitely improved my mood.

Higgs.

Phcoyotes
02-27-18, 13:53
I don't think I missed it being talked about here, but does anyone have info on joy at hi-liter? I've seen postings all over another site nobody there has any information.

Thanks.

Higgs Boson
03-01-18, 00:52
I googled the address on google maps. Found out just where it was, but the name "Nubian dancers" shows up on the map.I made the trip Sunday evening to go direct to the source. The sign outside says Nubians Dancers. No punctuation, no apostrophe. Now, I can sense the grammarians on this forum are contorting in agony but that's what it says.


Old name for the club or new name??


This place has been under so many different owners over the years that it is hard to keep track of. For those of you that have been in Phoenix a long time it is the old Rumper Room. For a while it was Los Adelitas then it was Blue Moon West and then Velvet, then Strokers and now this new incarnation.So BigTim, there's your answer. I only recognized a couple of those names.


The demographics in the area have changed and no longer will sustain a strip club. They will continue to find suckers out there that will rent the land (the land is owned by the same people that own the land the Blue Moon sits on) but it will always fail. There is not enough income in the area to support it anymore. I will guess the current incarnation will maybe last at most 1 yar.Not only that but the management is hurting itself. I dropped by last Sunday. Originally I wanted to simply answer BigTim's question. But not before spending a little time at Essex just up the road. Well, up the road, and round the corner, and up that road too. So, I pull into the parking lot for "Nubians Dancers" and thought, "Hey, I'm here anyway, let's head inside. " Go to the door, pull, nothing. It's locked. It doesn't make sense. It's midnight and they're supposed to be open to 4 AM. Then this guy opens the door from the inside and says they're closed. Re-opens tomorrow a 1 PM. This not the way to develop regular clientele. I've put out some inquiries. I'll get more info.

Higgs.

RaviGoel
03-01-18, 13:27
Guys,

I have been to many clubs in my life. I am so jealous of the guys in Phoenix. You have really amazing clubs.

During my recent extended stay, I visited the following.

BSC.

SR. Dirtys.

Chicas (twice).

Bandaids (twice).

T&A.

Worst was T&A. I left within 10 minutes. The lineup (atleast on that day) did nothing to me. Actually, was a turnoff.

Next worst was SR. Dirtys - there were only 2 of them present when I went, and only one of them was kinda good.

Now. The better ones.

Chicas. My favorite amazing mileage. Did not realize possible at clubs. My hand was allowed to wander. Pretty much anywhere with couple of different girls. In general, the quality was average, but few diamonds. Be aware I like petite (smaller the better) women with a cute butt, a sweet face and natural small breasts.

Bandaids. My second favorite. Not as much mileage as Chicas. But the girls were still very friendly. The bouncers keep an eye (not close, but do keep track).

BSC. Very cute girls, decent mileage, (not as much as bandaids or Chicas), but MUCH more than most other cities.

Can't wait to plan another trip.

If I lived in Phoenix, I would be broke in no time!

Kujo69
03-01-18, 23:15
I don't think I missed it being talked about here, but does anyone have info on joy at hi-liter? I've seen postings all over another site nobody there has any information.

Thanks.Don't think she has many regulars. Just a guess.

Higgs Boson
03-02-18, 01:12
BigTim47 noted that he, Dave and myself had a rendezvous at the Hi Liter on a Wednesday night in November. I arrived about 9:30 PM and joined BigTim and Dave at a central table not far from the front door. The Hi Liter used to be my preferred club many years ago. Not so much anymore. Purely anecdotal evidence on my part but over time the dancer profile seem to lean more toward refugees from the BSC. More augmented breasts. Not all but a higher percentage. I was horrified earlier in 2017 to discover one of my top dancers here had some work done and now sported hardened boobs. Now on to the important parts of this visit. At least what I was learning while Dave and BigTim were getting lap dances and cuddling with various dancers.

BigTim had warned me about a particular persistent dancer he met earlier that week at the Hi Liter. Seated at our table, BigTim said something like, "here she comes now. " Moments later she was plopped on my lap. I recognized her. We used to have some very nice conversations. Turns out she had her third child that year and her "mom bod" was not as nice as it used to be. I've seen some dancer stomachs that showed a lot of damage after having children and this dancer's stomach was nothing like that but her body is a bit more amorphous than it used to be. IMO, she's become more aggressive to compensate. Our conversation turned to the city's crackdown on the club. This dancer was an eyewitness to one of the events. She said, one evening she was seated at a table talking with a customer when police entered the club and left with three dancers. The understanding was this had to do with in-club behavior with customers.

This dancer introduced me to another dancer at the club. This second dancer stated that she herself received a fine of $1000 for activities with a customer at the club. She had to engage a lawyer because if the legal penalty was sustained she would have risked losing her day job. (Deboinair: I'd be glad to introduce you two so you can hear what she says first hand.).

Others club visits during this time period:

Bliss: dropped by this club on a Wednesday night. What a disappointment. Three customers at a table with two of the three club dancers. The other dancer was at the bar with another customer (not me). The three dancers were nice enough but not good looking enough to turn heads. Add me, the bartender and two unneeded security guys at the front door and that's everyone at the club. Had my beverage and departed.

Chicas: I'm glad some of you are having luck at this club. I can only drop by certain evenings and I've been disappointed repeatedly. Took a chance one night on a dancer who was using the name "Latina". Initially she appeared to have interesting cheek bones and adequate body. During the dances over along the wall her makeup under UV lighting created a ghoulish appearance. Also, though she appeared to have natural breasts, her butt seemed to be augmented. I've put Chicas on my semi-annual or annual visit list.

Essex: every night is "theme" night a this club with drink specials typically starting at 9 PM. I can't remember them all but Wednesday night is Latino night, and Sunday night is "Girls night out" night. Can't remember all the other themes. Drinks are typically $1 for house brands. Sometimes specials for Patron or other premium brands. Wednesday nights can sometimes get crowded. I was there one Wednesday and, instead of hanging out at the bar, sat at a table near the second stage. Sipping my beverage I was joined by latina Carina. She said she was drawn by my cerebral manner. She then indicated that she wouldn't normally be seen at a club like this but would be more suitable to the scene at BSC. She was visiting from Vegas and described the club she worked at there. (dancers in long gowns, pairing with customers at the door on entry). Managed to get rid of her but was soon joined by another dancer. Once I described the kind of dancer I was looking for, she took the hint and departed. One night I was getting discouraged and decided to visit the men's room before leaving. Taking care of that, I was passing the DJ's station when a voice said "hello. I've been waiting for you. " Dancer Rhythm and I moved over the elevated area near the second stage. Nice dances. I've had some decent dancers in recent weeks. One dancer for me to check out again is Mina (Meena?) Obviously new to the game, she's still learning the fast / slow choices. She was wearing an incredibly skimpy neon yellow bikini-style costume. I'm afraid the rest of the names may be lost in the cosmos. One issue is still the $10 versus $15 rate in the raised area. I believe several dances that used to be at Essex have moved to Jaguars. I might have to visit that club in the near future to check.

Dirty's: this place is definitely hit or miss for me. Some nights I will discover a very hot dancer. I often stop by this club if things aren't going well at Essex or Mink's. Last week I met Trinity. Seemed nice enough at first but the dances were almost zero contact. Another night meet Maya (a name lately popping up at various clubs) who was very nice for dances.

Minks: this is the place on Grand, NW from Indian School. I gather that dancers can show up here and start with no audition. However, dancers tell me that the "tip out" and house fees can add up. Again, hit or miss. I don't get here much and it's a different line up of dancers each time.

Higgs.

Deboinair
03-02-18, 10:27
Guys,

I have been to many clubs in my life. I am so jealous of the guys in Phoenix. You have really amazing clubs.

During my recent extended stay, I visited the following.

BSC.

SR. Dirtys.

Chicas (twice).

Bandaids (twice).

T&A.

Worst was T&A. I left within 10 minutes. The lineup (atleast on that day) did nothing to me. Actually, was a turnoff.

Next worst was SR. Dirtys - there were only 2 of them present when I went, and only one of them was kinda good.

Now. The better ones.

Chicas. My favorite amazing mileage. Did not realize possible at clubs. My hand was allowed to wander. Pretty much anywhere with couple of different girls. In general, the quality was average, but few diamonds. Be aware I like petite (smaller the better) women with a cute butt, a sweet face and natural small breasts.

Bandaids. My second favorite. Not as much mileage as Chicas. But the girls were still very friendly. The bouncers keep an eye (not close, but do keep track).

BSC. Very cute girls, decent mileage, (not as much as bandaids or Chicas), but MUCH more than most other cities.

Can't wait to plan another trip.

If I lived in Phoenix, I would be broke in no time!Please let me know where you are from. So I never visit a strip club there. If you think Phoenix is great. The strip clubs must be pretty bad where you live. Glad you had a good time here though.

DrGori
03-02-18, 19:24
Guys,

I have been to many clubs in my life. I am so jealous of the guys in Phoenix. You have really amazing clubs.

During my recent extended stay, I visited the following.

BSC.

SR. Dirtys.

Chicas (twice).

Bandaids (twice).

T&A.

Worst was T&A. I left within 10 minutes. The lineup (atleast on that day) did nothing to me. Actually, was a turnoff.

Next worst was SR. Dirtys - there were only 2 of them present when I went, and only one of them was kinda good.

Now. The better ones.

Chicas. My favorite amazing mileage. Did not realize possible at clubs. My hand was allowed to wander. Pretty much anywhere with couple of different girls. In general, the quality was average, but few diamonds. Be aware I like petite (smaller the better) women with a cute butt, a sweet face and natural small breasts.

Bandaids. My second favorite. Not as much mileage as Chicas. But the girls were still very friendly. The bouncers keep an eye (not close, but do keep track).

BSC. Very cute girls, decent mileage, (not as much as bandaids or Chicas), but MUCH more than most other cities.

Can't wait to plan another trip.

If I lived in Phoenix, I would be broke in no time!I guess you've never been to Houston.

PhillyFan45
03-02-18, 19:42
I guess you've never been to Houston.St. James alone might kill him from excitement.

Lyle416
03-03-18, 14:04
I guess you've never been to Houston.What clubs would you suggest in Houston?

Dick North
03-03-18, 21:40
Why don't we knock off the BS about other areas and post about activities in the PHOENIX area?
DN.

Dick North
03-06-18, 19:42
Returning from a trip up north stopped by Bandaids.
Had a few dances from some new girls who were inviting me to VIP. I bluntly said I don't know you and not sure I would have a good time.
One dancer's response was 'maybe you should visit with one of the Cubans'.
Interesting. So I visited with Azul and had a pretty good time.
Learn something every day.
One particular Cuban I really like is Layla at Chicas.
DN.

Zhagolo51
03-11-18, 20:35
I had some time to kill during early afternoon this past Thursday. Good crowd, wasn't totally full. Was surprised by a featured Dancer little person. I mean she was small small. She was shorter than the cocktail tables. But nice and she definitely had some moves on stage. Unlike some of the girls that work there full time. There were also some good looking girls working. This thin / fit shot girl with nice boltons and perfect ass caught my attention. But I think she was with a regular of her since she was with him for a while. I will have to stop by again and see if can catch her.

Tecolote32
03-12-18, 23:37
Any info on when I can find her there? Days of the week? Hours?

Hambone78
03-15-18, 10:52
Any info on when I can find her there? Days of the week? Hours?I have seen her there on Thursdays and Fridays. Usually gets in between 1-2 pm. I went there yesterday (Wed 3/15) and she was not there in the afternoon. Rosie on the other hand, have only seen her maybe twice in the last year. I asked her once when she works an she basically replied, "Whenever I want to. Aka, whenever I need money". Estrella is usually there, but Rosie will be hard to find.

PeteyTrinhz
03-16-18, 02:12
Looking for places that are not trashy, have great ladies (8, 9 , 10 for looks) and private dance rooms. Please no ghetto run down clubs.

Higgs Boson
03-16-18, 13:49
Looking for places that are not trashy, have great ladies (8, 9 , 10 for looks) and private dance rooms. Please no ghetto run down clubs.It's all subjective but probably the closest you'll get is Bourbon Street Circus. Not sure about a private dance room. I think BSC has some private party rooms but I don't think you'll get the kind of action I think you're hinting at. I know Dream Palace used to have private rooms but it was basically a setup to relieve you of your money and get nothing for it. Elite Cabaret (same owner as DP) has rooms but I expect the same setup. The very same owner recently acquired the Alaskan Bush Company but it's a dump. OTOH under the previous owners a hot dancer last year was ready to lead me up a set of stairs but was told by the bartender I'd first have to pay an entry fee, which I believe was $50. Cheap compared to "champagne rooms" in places like NYC's Flashdancers.

On second thought, check out Scores on 7th Street. They have about 5 separate areas for you to meet with dancers. It's not a bad place and some of the dancers are nice.

I don't think you'll find exactly what you're looking for because the Phoenix area is an entirely different legal environment.

Good luck. Read back in the thread if you want a better idea.

Higgs.

Sparks81
03-17-18, 03:28
Hadn't been in there in years, but was in the area and decided to stop by. Years go by and nothing has changed. Heard many of the girls from Centerfolds were working there either as dancers or waitresses, and saw a couple. Who all is there from C'folds?

Only one girl was hot enough to melt steel. Wanted to get a dance but she was busy, but I could understand why. Said her name was Tijuana. Will have to stop in again and see if I can spend some dances with her. Most other girls were friendly and nice, but not my cup of tea so to speak.

Sparks81
03-18-18, 17:00
Hadn't been in there in years, but was in the area and decided to stop by. Years go by and nothing has changed. Heard many of the girls from Centerfolds were working there either as dancers or waitresses, and saw a couple. Who all is there from C'folds?

Only one girl was hot enough to melt steel. Wanted to get a dance but she was busy, but I could understand why. Said her name was Tijuana. Will have to stop in again and see if I can spend some dances with her. Most other girls were friendly and nice, but not my cup of tea so to speak.EDIT: Her name was T-J. The post changed it to Tijuana. Stopped back in last night and was able to spend some time with her. Very nice.

RZM1231
03-25-18, 15:05
Ok so here are a few of the dreams where I took some trips to a few of the clubs. Most of these dreams too place early on the day, 12 pm to 4 pm. The first was a Tuesday. Skipped work and headed to Chicas. Met my regulars Estrella and Alondra. I always get treated very well by them, so I treat them well too. Then there is the gang of cubans, always approach with the* "you want to dance". They are all very good looking but they all try hustle to get the VIP dances. I had 4 great dances from Alondra and 3 from Estrella. Also for that person who was asking about her, she tends to be there on the day shift only and usually is done by 7 pm, mostly weekdays. I highly recomend both of them. They are more the MILF type of dancers with great figures and very friendly. There might be a bit of an issue with the language barrier but they are great. And they often wear very sexy outfits. If you get lucky enough to get dances from them you won't be disappointed. On a different day, also a Tuesday, I was getting a dance from Estrella and a uncle LEO happen to show at the club. The dancers certainly took notice, a very odd situation but nothing happend, my dances continued but had to be less friendly. The day before St. Patrick, I dreamed I stopped by after work, around 7, right before cover started to be enforced. Place was pack many decent dancern, a gorgeous petite latina with enhanced DDs cought my eye on stage, tipped her but she got swooped by another patron as soon as she came off stage. Its a shame because she was easily a 9 on my score rating. Saw Estrella there too still but I was to preoccupied hypnozed by the other dancer that I failed to notice that she was getting ready to leave. All in all the talent was there on that night but it was very hard to compete with some of the other patrons who where literally throwing stacks of singles on the stage. I tend not to be a fan of doing that so I finished my drink and took off. About a week later, I returned on a Tuesday around 2 pm. I noticed a new bartender, very pettite latina, super cute and very friendly. After grabbing a drink I took a seat close to the main stage. I was approached by a blond dancer. To me she looked like a barbie doll, gorgeous, natural As, slim, legs for days and a very cute face. I was a bit stunned when I heard her speak because she sounded like the other cuban dancers, but unlike the others she actually started a conversation and had a really charming attitude. Claimed to have recently started here but after the 3 dances I had from her I could tell she had dance before, now I'm not really a fan of the cubans here but she definitely made me rethink my point of view on the subject, I will definetly grab dances from her in the future. After that I spotted Estrella and like always had a very entertaining conversation with her and made up for missing on her on my last visit. That's all the dreams of Chicas, now to the other clubs.

On a different day I believe a Wednessday night. Aroung 6 pm, decided to drop by BM. To begin I took notice of the two paper signs on the entrance placed on the wall as one enters the door. New rules that suggest a much more restrictive experience. Asked a round to a few of the dancers and they pretty much acted as if they knew nothing about it. Did not really see nothing special as far as talent but I did agree to a dance fron an older slim dancer, tall blond large enhancements, I rate her at a 7 but can't remember her name, she is often there and was telling me about how different the experience is for the night shift. She mentioned model type dancers. Private rooms and a complete different (much more expensive) experience. Apparently management started shuttling patrons from Scottsdale. Either way I have a pretty good dance from her. After that I stuck around to see the night shift. A very cute slim brunet with natural As, hopped on stage. An 8 on my scale. She offer a tour of the new private areas. I must say I saw nothing that was private. The idea here is a both style couch on the back that has a sheer, see-through black curtin as a door. Now here is the real kicker. The "room" fee is. 150 for 15 min. The asking tip per dance is negotiated by the talent and it starts at a ridiculous amount that I would not even think of donating, not even for a BP provider or SW. Think on the range of 4 figures. Also she offered complementary refreshments. I was about to laugh but somehow contained myself. I thank the girls for the tour, tipped her a couple of singles and walked away. In my opinion this is just a recipe for disaster. But I have noticed the times that I driven by the place that the parking lot is packed and have seen those shuttles parked there too. On a different trip, after another failed attempt by the stroll, I stopped by again. It was around 3 pm. There were a few really cute dancers, all pettite and young. I was hopping to meet up Dulce but she was not in. The first couple of dancers that approched me started with the combo of drink or dance right of the bat, I dismissed them just as quickly. Than a cute ebony skin, dancer hopped on stage. Super cute great pettite body, As, but wow the ass on this cutie, I give her an 8 on that alone. Tipped her on stage and she came down when she was done. I think her name was "unique" but I'm not sure. We chated about the new rules briefly among other things and she stated that she doesn't deal with those new procedures on the day shift. To her nothing has change on the day shift. I must say she has this cuteness to herself that I just found irresistible. After a very pleasent chat she asked if I was ready for a dance. I agreed and I most say I really enjoy that dance, I will definetly dream of her again. On a different night, I think a Sunday, I stopped by here again to see if there was better talent. I was mostly killing time after a failed lap around the stroll. Got to the door and saw a doorman I had never seen before, I noticed he had an earpiece on and was speaking into it as he saw me approach, I didn't really gave it too much though so I proceed into the place. Than the person at the counter was also someone I did not recognize. Again I didn't dwelled too much into it and just paid the cover and asked for singles. Before I took a seat at the stage I went into the restroom as I had been drinking all kinds of soft drinks and needed to relieve myself. As soon as I came out from there, literally by the door I was "ambushed" by both a dancer, about a 7, and a very tall woman, not dressed as a dancer, more like security and also wearing an earpiece, asking me if I had ever been to the place. I was very surpised but calmly said yes many times, then the tall woman asks how recently? To which I reply maybe a month ago. Then I turn away didn't say anything else and made my way to a seat by the stage. On stage I see a really cute dancer, white maybe about early 20's pettite. All natural with a small dimple in her cheek. Tipped a few singles and when she was done, she approached me and made small talk. I didn't really see anything else worth while and that little occurrence from the restroom door made me uneasy so I left.

On a different afternoon, around 4 pm, I stopped by Bandaids. I don't visit this place too often mainly due to the whole scanned I'd thing. Not much worth mentioning on that visit as the talent was average at best, not only that but even after tipping on stage, none of the dancers ever approched me. So needless to say after I finished my one drink I walked.

Well as you can see my dreams are somewhat vivid, but they are only dreams. Be smart and use common sense when dreaming as I try to be when describing them. Hopefully your own dreams will be safe and fulfilling. And if anyone has dreamed of a solid provider please PM me as both BP and the stroll have been lackluster for the most part. And also forgive any typos or bad grammar from my dream reports.

Tecolote32
03-26-18, 00:37
Stopped by a couple fridays ago and saw a cute, short redhead waitress with absolutely enormous natural tits. Who is she?

WhiteSun777
05-23-18, 18:21
I don't normally post my SC experience here. (I usually submit my reviews on another site) But I felt I need to as it's too good to keep this to myself.

Now I've been to Sugar many times before and in the years I've been to. I've NEVER gotten a better experience than that night. In fact, it's THE BEST SC experience I've got out of all the other clubs I've been to. And I've been to many. Now all this could be a one off thing who knows, I may not get the same experience next time.

Sr. PM me for details. You do not want to turn down VIP dances from this sex goddess.

WhoMe111
06-05-18, 08:31
Hadn't been in there in years, but was in the area and decided to stop by. Years go by and nothing has changed. Heard many of the girls from Centerfolds were working there either as dancers or waitresses, and saw a couple. Who all is there from C'folds?

Only one girl was hot enough to melt steel. Wanted to get a dance but she was busy, but I could understand why. Said her name was Tijuana. Will have to stop in again and see if I can spend some dances with her. Most other girls were friendly and nice, but not my cup of tea so to speak.The last time I was in there was about a year ago. I got one dance from a gal I would rate barely a 5, when I tried to discreetly caress tits I was told absolutely no touching, management rules. It was not worth the effort to go back.

WhoMe111
07-13-18, 08:54
Why are we not seeing any interesting club experiences anymore.

Deboinair
07-13-18, 16:00
Why are we not seeing any interesting club experiences anymore.Phoenix strip clubs suck ass. Just moved back to FL last week. Went from strip club hell to heaven. LOL. I have to come back to Phx at times for work, I guess Centerfolds is never going to re open. Had the most fun there.

Higgs Boson
07-14-18, 01:23
I haven't posted field reports for a long time. Besides the unfortunate suspension for this site, for the past year I've been focused on OTC experiences with dancers. Then I acquired a SB for the past 4 months and that gave me zero reasons to hit the clubs. My SB will go down as one of the best memories of my life but the arrangement appears to be drawing to a close. Unless she resumes meeting on a reliable / regular basis, I may be filing more club reports in the coming weeks. Meanwhile, here are some things that happened mostly either before or early in the SB experience.

Super Bowl Sunday and Monday.

I was originally supposed to meet one of my faves at Bandaids on Super Bowl Sunday. Let's call her Fave 1. It didn't work out. I'm at Bandaids but she's occupied elsewhere. Something about being with family. Fine, that's OK. Started getting prolonged laps with a new dancer and she went to work on my neck. Felt good. I ended up sporting a hickey for a couple days afterward. While this is going on, I notice that another fave showed up. Let's call her Fave A. I made some excuse to break loose from Ms Hickey and hung out with Fave A. Usual good dances with her.

The night after the Super Bowl I'm back at Bandaids finally hanging out with Fave 1. After drinks and chat at the bar, we decide it's time to head for the lounge for some dances. I lead the way and suddenly Fave A is in front of me. She sees Fave 1 behind me, which is OK since Fave A knows I hang out with Fave 1 and seems cool with it. I give Fave A a peck on the cheek and continue my way to the lounge but glance back to see Fave A offering Fave 1 a hug. Denied! I hadn't realized Fave 1 felt so. Hostile.

Tale of Two Goldens.

Golden like Estrella lately seems like one of those names that pop up in more than one club. (Remember when most clubs had a dancer named after the Egyptian goddess Isis?) One Golden is at Essex. Going back 2 years ago, she was a fit looking dancer with a curvy butt. Lately she's gotten a bit less fit looking. Her butt now a little pudgy. She runs hot and cold with me. One visit she tells me we should hang out and the next visit she's ignoring me.

I ran into a Golden at Bandaids. Not a knock-out but still decent looking and we decided to try dances. I could tell at the get-go that she would be disappointing. Waiting for the song to start, she stood in front of me about a foot or two away, when most dancers would be in my lap. I was right. Cut that short after a couple songs.

Supposed to meet with the SB this weekend but I have a feeling it's not going to happen. I may be hitting a club or two instead.

Higgs.

Ralphy3456
07-14-18, 06:10
Phoenix strip clubs suck ass. Just moved back to FL last week. Went from strip club hell to heaven. LOL. I have to come back to Phx at times for work, I guess Centerfolds is never going to re open. Had the most fun there.Centerfolds will be reopening within the next 2 weeks.

WhoMe111
07-14-18, 10:25
I was in Bandaids a couple of weeks ago and spotted a nice little white girl. After a while she came over and sat on my lap. I finally had to ask for a dance so she started to dance top up, After a minute she lowered her top to expose nice little natural a / b cups which are my favorite. As I tried to slide my hand up for an inconspicuous feel she pushed it away. She then suggested we go to VIP for "A more fun dance" and since I really liked those A / B's I agreed. Unfortunately I got the same treatment in VIP so I left after one dance.

Higgs Boson
07-14-18, 12:52
I was in Bandaids a couple of weeks ago and spotted a nice little white girl. After a while she came over and sat on my lap. (edit) Unfortunately I got the same treatment in VIP so I left after one dance.I can count my Bandaids VIP entries on one hand. Once the owner generously paid for a set. Another time the lounge was full and the dancer promised the regular lounge rate and followed through. Another time I was drunk plus feeling horny and generous and had both Fave 1 and Fave A at the same time. I think there there was a fourth time but the details are lost in the mist of time. I've also been in VIP areas in a couple of other clubs.

I know you guys have reported some fantastic encounters in particular clubs but my in my experience the Phoenix VIP areas don't offer anything more than than the standard lap dance. The basic dance experience depends on the club and the individual dancer.

Occasionally I meet a dancer who wants to immediately go to the VIP and tries to lead me back there. I ignore that and take a seat in the main lounge in Bandaids or my favored location in other clubs. I have also met dancers who will go only to the VIP. I refuse to play that game.

Higgs.

WhiteSun777
07-17-18, 20:56
Centerfolds will be reopening within the next 2 weeks.Were they opened before in May 2018? I just noticed 2 review from yelp.

SuperBad69
07-19-18, 22:13
I was on my way to see a lovely lady in Tempe. I was early so I stopped in at Christie's. This was around 4:30 on a Friday a few weeks ago. I sat at a table between the main stage and the back and enjoyed a corona while checking out the talent. There were some very attractive ladies there. After being there about 15 minutes one of them approached me. After some chitchat I got 2 dances from her. Decent, not great but I was not disappointed either. After a song or 2 a pale, white girl with black hair and tats introduced herself. She asked if I wanted a dance and I did. She then said that if I wanted to go to VIP the bouncers seemed to be sleeping that day. So she took me back there and she started dancing. I got 3 dances and inquired about my options. There were some, but not the main one and between the high prices and since I already had a very hot girl waiting I declined and left. But I do have hopes of making my strip club fantasy come thru someday.

Bdreener
07-28-18, 22:44
Dropped into Bandaids Saturday around 6 PM. Used a free cover pass from their web page ($6 otherwise) but tipped the door girl a few bucks. I like Saturday late afternoons and mid week nights as my favorite SC nights since the crowds tend to be low and the number of women on shifts high. I was immediately ambushed at the door for dances by two dancers with Latina dancers with great natural assets. I considered it, but didn't want to violate my rule of getting a beer and checking out all of the staff and action first before any play time. Spent a song or two checking out the place and didn't even sit down because I was being trolled by dancers like cats to a laser pointer. That's what I like about certain clubs during certain hours. The ratio was at least 4 or 5 dancers to each customer. The music was almost exclusively Spanish lyrics, but I didn't mind at all as long as there are goods beats and its energetic, I'm good. After deflecting several advances for dances I got cornered by a short early 20's Latina with large torpedoes that she insisted on rubbing on me, and I had to surrender. She guided me towards VIP, but I asked for regular table exercises. Spent a song enjoying the drill where all her weapons threatened everything from my periscope to my Tomahawk. I was being polite and non-touchy and she asked if I was a member of special forces, which I was not and noted. She then grabbed me and made me inspect her weapons briefly while asking me to go to VIP for additional inspection. I could not deny my new commander and went along. I knew I was stepping up to a higher defense contract, but I was able to explore all of her weapons systems with no barriers and she insisted that I do so. My fully inspected my Tomahawk as well with all of her systems over a few songs. Another weapons dealer wanted to join, but I resisted as I knew where the cost was headed. I decided to hit the eject button before I was in over my head, but I fully enjoyed my demo and I could see an accidental missile launch happening there. I retreated out of there so my uniform would stay green, but I would definitely return. Cheers!

RZM1231
07-29-18, 03:51
Did a run to Chicas a few weeks ago, at 1 PM, to my surprise, no cubans today. Did see my two faves Alondra and Estrella and as always left with a great smile on my face. Love those two so be good and take care of them. Nothing else worth mentioning. I also did stop by Eve's Tease off Grand and 35th. It was around 10 Pm on a Sat. I must say I was not impressed. A few decent dancers but the VIP seemed too well light up and from what I noticed there were nothing but air dances so I was out before my first water was finished. I will try again at a different time to see if there is a difference. That's all for the moment, take care out there fellows be safe.

WhoMe111
07-29-18, 09:04
Dropped into Bandaids Saturday around 6 PM. Used a free cover pass from their web page ($6 otherwise) but tipped the door girl a few bucks. I like Saturday late afternoons and mid week nights as my favorite SC nights since the crowds tend to be low and the number of women on shifts high. I was immediately ambushed at the door for dances by two dancers with Latina dancers with great natural assets. I considered it, but didn't want to violate my rule of getting a beer and checking out all of the staff and action first before any play time. Spent a song or two checking out the place and didn't even sit down because I was being trolled by dancers like cats to a laser pointer. That's what I like about certain clubs during certain hours. The ratio was at least 4 or 5 dancers to each customer. The music was almost exclusively Spanish lyrics, but I didn't mind at all as long as there are goods beats and its energetic, I'm good. After deflecting several advances for dances I got cornered by a short early 20's Latina with large torpedoes that she insisted on rubbing on me, and I had to surrender. She guided me towards VIP, but I asked for regular table exercises. Spent a song enjoying the drill where all her weapons threatened everything from my periscope to my Tomahawk. I was being polite and non-touchy and she asked if I was a member of special forces, which I was not and noted. She then grabbed me and made me inspect her weapons briefly while asking me to go to VIP for additional inspection. I could not deny my new commander and went along. I knew I was stepping up to a higher defense contract, but I was able to explore all of her weapons systems with no barriers and she insisted that I do so. My fully inspected my Tomahawk as well with all of her systems over a few songs. Another weapons dealer wanted to join, but I resisted as I knew where the cost was headed. I decided to hit the eject button before I was in over my head, but I fully enjoyed my demo and I could see an accidental missile launch happening there. I retreated out of there so my uniform would stay green, but I would definitely return. Cheers!Seems like it is hit or miss there. Last time I was there was a complete miss.

Mrmikers
08-01-18, 02:08
Dropped into Bandaids Saturday around 6 PM. Used a free cover pass from their web page ($6 otherwise) but tipped the door girl a few bucks. I like Saturday late afternoons and mid week nights as my favorite SC nights since the crowds tend to be low and the number of women on shifts high. I was immediately ambushed at the door for dances by two dancers with Latina dancers with great natural assets. I considered it, but didn't want to violate my rule of getting a beer and checking out all of the staff and action first before any play time. Spent a song or two checking out the place and didn't even sit down because I was being trolled by dancers like cats to a laser pointer. That's what I like about certain clubs during certain hours. The ratio was at least 4 or 5 dancers to each customer. The music was almost exclusively Spanish lyrics, but I didn't mind at all as long as there are goods beats and its energetic, I'm good. After deflecting several advances for dances I got cornered by a short early 20's Latina with large torpedoes that she insisted on rubbing on me, and I had to surrender. She guided me towards VIP, but I asked for regular table exercises. Spent a song enjoying the drill where all her weapons threatened everything from my periscope to my Tomahawk. I was being polite and non-touchy and she asked if I was a member of special forces, which I was not and noted. She then grabbed me and made me inspect her weapons briefly while asking me to go to VIP for additional inspection. I could not deny my new commander and went along. I knew I was stepping up to a higher defense contract, but I was able to explore all of her weapons systems with no barriers and she insisted that I do so. My fully inspected my Tomahawk as well with all of her systems over a few songs. Another weapons dealer wanted to join, but I resisted as I knew where the cost was headed. I decided to hit the eject button before I was in over my head, but I fully enjoyed my demo and I could see an accidental missile launch happening there. I retreated out of there so my uniform would stay green, but I would definitely return. Cheers!Where were the bouncers? Every time I've been to this place the bouncers watch the VIP section like hawks. This place has never made much sense to me. They hire girls who are down to play in the VIP, but then patrol them relentlessly. Meanwhile, a couple miles away at 12th and Camelback, the right girl at the right time can be a real treat in the VIP.

Bdreener
08-03-18, 16:29
Where were the bouncers? Every time I've been to this place the bouncers watch the VIP section like hawks. This place has never made much sense to me. They hire girls who are down to play in the VIP, but then patrol them relentlessly. Meanwhile, a couple miles away at 12th and Camelback, the right girl at the right time can be a real treat in the VIP.There was one bouncer by the door doing the I'd thing. I was there for about 45 minutes and did not see a bouncer go to VIP during that time. A dancer friend that used to work at Bandaids and other establishments told me the dancers tip out the bouncers if they want to be "overlooked". I have confirmed this at other places. So, if the dancer is cool with what's happening, it might not be visible through the bouncers sunglasses (: That's also why I like certain hours at clubs. Fewer people and fewer nervous bouncers.

Higgs Boson
08-08-18, 20:09
Centerfolds will be reopening within the next 2 weeks.There are now signs up saying: "Now Open Thursday, Friday, Saturday 9 PM".

Good scouting, Ralphy.

This is good news if for no other reason than this club has prompted the only positive comments I remember from Debonair (grin). I hope it surpasses his previous experiences there. We'll see how it works out.

Hey, BigTim! We'll need to go here on your next visit.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
08-08-18, 21:34
Where were the bouncers?.The bouncers here vary a lot on enforcement but you can still often work around them if you're discrete. On most Sunday nights there is the manager D-a-l-e who is a real stickler on touching. Sunday nights are often a good night for me to hit the club and in the past he has caught me several times cupping a sweet pair of C cups. Now he watches me like a hawk when he's in the lounge. But then he get's tired of not seeing anything and moves on elsewhere. If I see him in the lounge area when I'm getting dances, I cool things until he gets bored and moves on. This is the person I most often see checking the VIP area. Most of the other security staff / managers don't really care as long as there is no "penetration" involved and the dancer is OK. The dancers set the limits and, as individuals, can be very clear if you crossed a line. Many of the more daring dancers will be checking the mirror as they dance. Some are checking their hair and make-up but the others are checking for security and D-a-l-e.

There was a former security guy who took the whole thing much too seriously. I don't see him anymore.

Higgs.

Ralphy3456
08-09-18, 05:43
There are now signs up saying: "Now Open Thursday, Friday, Saturday 9 PM".

Good scouting, Ralphy.

This is good news if for no other reason than this club has prompted the only positive comments I remember from Debonair (grin). I hope it surpasses his previous experiences there. We'll see how it works out.

Hey, BigTim! We'll need to go here on your next visit.

Higgs.Just to let you know only the nude no alcohol side will be open.

Higgs Boson
08-09-18, 18:14
Just to let you know only the nude no alcohol side will be open.That was one possibility I was considering. I like my beer but I may make a visit anyway. I know Dave had some nice experiences on the nude side. Much depends on the dancer.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
08-11-18, 00:03
There are now signs up saying: "Now Open Thursday, Friday, Saturday 9 PM".I dropped by Centerfolds last night (a Thursday) about 10 PM. Closed. No cars in the parking lot, front door locked. Drove around the back and there were a couple of "bike people" in a dark corner by the back door. I think the female was providing a little evening service of her own. They took off while I tried the front door.

I decided to head for Essex. Report in a separate post later this weekend.

Higgs.

Bigtim47
08-11-18, 13:11
I dropped by Centerfolds last night (a Thursday) about 10 PM. Closed. No cars in the parking lot, front door locked. Drove around the back and there were a couple of "bike people" in a dark corner by the back door. I think the female was providing a little evening service of her own. They took off while I tried the front door.

I decided to head for Essex. Report in a separate post later this weekend.

Higgs.Higgs, my friend, you were evidently too early on your visit to CenterFolds. It is reported on another site, that the opening is scheduled for August 16. Hopefully we can include this stop on our next tour in a few weeks. We all appreciate the "recon" work that you do to keep us informed. Thanks.

Ralphy3456
08-11-18, 15:31
Higgs, my friend, you were evidently too early on your visit to CenterFolds. It is reported on another site, that the opening is scheduled for August 16. Hopefully we can include this stop on our next tour in a few weeks. We all appreciate the "recon" work that you do to keep us informed. Thanks.You are correct. Centerfolds will open on Thursday 8/16 at 9 pm.

Deboinair
08-20-18, 11:38
There are now signs up saying: "Now Open Thursday, Friday, Saturday 9 PM".

Good scouting, Ralphy.

This is good news if for no other reason than this club has prompted the only positive comments I remember from Debonair (grin). I hope it surpasses his previous experiences there. We'll see how it works out.

Hey, BigTim! We'll need to go here on your next visit.

Higgs.It was great under old ownership. They got a lot of girls that were not from Phoenix, so it was so much fun. I forgot that Hank is affiliated with this club. All of their clubs pretty much suck in Phoenix. It was ok in the beginning but too many rule changes and hikes in the prices of drinks. Before I left, Bliss was actually my go to place. I had fun with dancers, bartenders and wait staff. I never shared my escapades because the reports from the mongers on here are vague and informative. A lot of you guys like to fall in love with these strippers also and like to keep them to yourselves, even though they are for everybody. (grin).

Desert Rat
08-24-18, 14:55
I was at the QT on Cave Creek and Union Hills yesterday in the afternoon. I was shocked to see a bunch of hot dancers come over from the Candy Store. The last time I went in there the girls looked like they were from Sun City.

Chicago Monger
08-25-18, 14:54
I was at the QT on Cave Creek and Union Hills yesterday in the afternoon. I was shocked to see a bunch of hot dancers come over from the Candy Store. The last time I went in there the girls looked like they were from Sun City.Are they doing take out there?

Desert Rat
08-27-18, 16:57
Are they doing take out there?No the QT is store right next to the strip club. The last time I was there the dancers were all hideous. That is why I was surprised at the talent. Not SW or takeout though.

Ralphy3456
08-28-18, 14:34
Just as an FYI the HiLiter was voted the best adult nightclub in the Southwest by Exotic Dancer Magazine.

SuperBad69
08-28-18, 22:36
Me and a friend are planning a trip to Vegas in October. I haven't been to Vegas in well over 10 years and I've never been there single. So I am looking for advice to try to get the most bang for my buck and have a good time. Any suggestions on what hotel to stay at? I'm not looking for a fancy place but I don't want to stay at shit hole either. I guess I prefer on the strip unless somebody can give me a reason not to. We are also going to hit up some strip clubs and I'm hoping you guys can steer me in the right direction there also. I wouldn't mind hitting up a massage parlor if there is a great one someone can recommend. With TER gone lining up high quality girl to come to my room isn't as easy as it used to be. If any of you can recommend someone please do. Pms are fine. Any help is appreciated guys, thank you.

Entropy110
08-29-18, 01:27
Me and a friend are planning a trip to Vegas in October. I haven't been to Vegas in well over 10 years and I've never been there single. So I am looking for advice to try to get the most bang for my buck and have a good time. Any suggestions on what hotel to stay at? I'm not looking for a fancy place but I don't want to stay at shit hole either. I guess I prefer on the strip unless somebody can give me a reason not to. We are also going to hit up some strip clubs and I'm hoping you guys can steer me in the right direction there also. I wouldn't mind hitting up a massage parlor if there is a great one someone can recommend. With TER gone lining up high quality girl to come to my room isn't as easy as it used to be. If any of you can recommend someone please do. Pms are fine. Any help is appreciated guys, thank you.MGM and Treasure Island are good bang-for-the-buck hotels on the strip. The D is also decent if you're on a budget. I don't really go to MPs in Vegas, but there are plenty of options on and near the strip. Lots of talent.

Entropy110
08-29-18, 16:53
MGM and Treasure Island are good bang-for-the-buck hotels on the strip. The D is also decent if you're on a budget. I don't really go to MPs in Vegas, but there are plenty of options on and near the strip. Lots of talent.I meant "The Quad" instead of D. The D is in old town Vegas, which is still lots of fun but a different vibe.

Ralphy3456
08-30-18, 07:24
I meant "The Quad" instead of D. The D is in old town Vegas, which is still lots of fun but a different vibe.There is no Quad in Vegas. You might be talking about the Linq. By the way the Linq is a dump. The Luxor on the south end of the strip is very affordable.

Entropy110
08-30-18, 10:23
There is no Quad in Vegas. You might be talking about the Linq. By the way the Linq is a dump. The Luxor on the south end of the strip is very affordable.You're right! I forgot they changed it again. I still find myself referring to it as Imoerial Palace. That building isn't the nicest but if you don't care about amenities and just want a place to crash in a great location on the strip, there is no beating their price point. The Luxor is good too but my last experience there wasn't the best. I had to change rooms because everything smelled like smoke. Another place I forgot to mention is planet Hollywood. If you are visiting with a large group, their suites can sleep 5 to 6 comfortably and the prices are very reasonable.

Desert Rat
08-31-18, 15:23
The most fun I ever had in Vegas was at Mandalay Bay. The fake beach is crawling with thongs. I bought some goggles and would go underwater to watch those asses float. Awesome times.

SuperBad69
09-05-18, 17:39
The most fun I ever had in Vegas was at Mandalay Bay. The fake beach is crawling with thongs. I bought some goggles and would go underwater to watch those asses float. Awesome times.Well I don't think I'll be seeing any thongs on a beach because now we are going in mid December because the hotels are much cheaper LOL. Thanks for all the recommendations and advice guys. We are probably going to stay at the Excalibar. I wouldn't mind staying at a nicer hotel and pay more but my friend doesn't want to. I'm not making a big deal out of it because I've never spent much time in the hotel anyway besides sleeping and eating. Of course I always stayed at Caesars Palace and this was 15+ years ago so it was still one of the nicest and newest hotels there.

Ralphy3456
09-06-18, 11:42
Has anyone been to Centerfolds since it reopened? If so how was it?

SamPerkins420
09-09-18, 13:51
Going to be in Phoenix / Tempe area next week, looking for clubs with the best mileage, up to FS. Have been to BML but that's about it in the area. Really would love one with Latinas if there are any FS clubs with them. Feel free to PM me, happy to reciprocate what I can.

Higgs Boson
09-11-18, 22:55
Going to be in Phoenix / Tempe area next week, looking for clubs with the best mileage, up to FS. Have been to BML but that's about it in the area. Really would love one with Latinas if there are any FS clubs with them. Feel free to PM me, happy to reciprocate what I can.You might want to focus on the latina part and go from there. Chicas on 35th Ave, south of Thomas would be an obvious place. I've heard the daytime latinas / cubanas at Bandaids can be pretty wild.

I can't speak from personal experience. For the most part I'm not into the latinas / cubanas with the occasional exception.

Good luck.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
09-11-18, 23:47
Has anyone been to Centerfolds since it reopened? If so how was it?Ah yes. I was there for opening night. I've again been distracted with my on-again, off-again situation with the SB. Now it looks like it will end this month. Or at least we'll have to agree on a new arrangement for it to continue. It's become difficult to make contact with her in the last couple of months after she gets her monthly allowance.

I'm also been running around and concealing all the really good dancers in the Phoenix area so I can have them all to myself and no one else can meet them. LOL!

I arrived at the Centerfolds re-opening about 9:30 PM, roughly a half hour after the doors opened. No cover charge, at least for now. Of course, expect that to change in the future. To be clear, it was only the nude side which was open.

Inside, the barmaid / server and I joked that there should have been a ceremonial ribbon cutting. She is a regular server at Bandaids and volunteered to work the opening. She wasn't getting paid by the club, so I tipped generously. Speaking of DN's favorite topic, beverages, the manager on duty hadn't put much thought into the opening night refreshments. You had a choice of a glass of full-sugar cola or a bottle of water. Either one costing $10. I got my bottle of water but almost choked when she told me the cost. I forgot how bad the nude clubs are about charging for drinks. I submitted a suggestion for other beverage types for subsequent nights. At least with a glass of tonic water I can fantasize about gin and tonic. Hmmm. One of those faux beers would be OK.

So, yes, dancers took the stage one at a time and eventually got nude. Then they left the stage and disappeared. I think the dancers were mostly novices who thought the dollar bills were going to rain in the thousands while on stage. I talked with the assistant manager and mentioned that it would be nice if the dancers circulated beyond the perhaps two I noticed. I specifically mentioned that I would have liked to talk with the one who I thought was hot but never appeared again. He said they were "working on it". I think he meant they were orienting these new dancers on ways to improve income. Legally.

Meanwhile, I was giving BigTim running commentary via txt and he'd ask me questions. How many dancers? About 6 total. How many customers? At 9:30, about 25 including 4 in the smoking area.

I had to leave shortly after. I had a morning commitment. I haven't returned since the grand re-opening. I inquired about the other side of the club re-opening and there was some hope that will happen but will take months, perhaps as many as 12 if it happens. It's not a sure thing.

Higgs.

TenFootDong
09-15-18, 17:08
Has anyone been to Centerfolds since it reopened? If so how was it?I stopped by last Sat night around 11:30 pm. $10 to get in. One drink minimum. Red Bull was 6, Coke 4, other sodas and non alcoholic beer were available. Place looked exactly like I remember. Only six dancers working. I didn't find any of them very attractive. The bar girl was hot. About 20 customers when I arrived and about 10 when I left after 15-20 min. Maybe it gets better after 2 am but I'm not going to waste $15 to find out. They would be wise to drop the cover until this place gets its groove back. Maybe I'll give it another try in a couple of months.

Kamui7
09-19-18, 20:48
What's the general consensus for best bang for you buck in the Scotsdale / Glendale / Phoenix area?

FS would be awesome, but not sure how the clubs are out there. Where I live in NYC, clubs are lame.

Thanks!

TrillZero
09-20-18, 17:22
What's the general consensus for best bang for you buck in the Scotsdale / Glendale / Phoenix area?

FS would be awesome, but not sure how the clubs are out there. Where I live in NYC, clubs are lame.

Thanks!All the strip club here suck dude. Gluck with your FS hunt at clubs.

Higgs Boson
09-22-18, 01:36
All the strip club here suck dude. Gluck with your FS hunt at clubs.Now wait a minute. If you think it's bad here, I'm with Kamui7. I can tell you you'll spend a lot more on the Manhattan clubs and get a lot less. Exception being the underground scene in NYC and good luck trying to get in on that. If you know what you're doing in Phoenix, you can get a lot but it typically takes more than one visit.

Higgs.

Kamui7
09-22-18, 20:31
Now wait a minute. If you think it's bad here, I'm with Kamui7. I can tell you you'll spend a lot more on the Manhattan clubs and get a lot less. Exception being the underground scene in NYC and good luck trying to get in on that. If you know what you're doing in Phoenix, you can get a lot but it typically takes more than one visit.

Higgs.Oh well. Thanks.

Should I just hit up massage parlors?

SonOfA
09-22-18, 22:53
All the strip club here suck dude. Gluck with your FS hunt at clubs.I 100% disagree with this statement. Phoenix might not beat Florida clubs, but it's up there in terms of mileage and it doesn't cost a fortune to do it. If you know what clubs to go to, you can get FS that same night with the right girl. For starters, try Hi-Liter.

Bustass
09-23-18, 20:27
All the strip club here suck dude. Gluck with your FS hunt at clubs.The others might be correct. Build repport! Good things come to those who wait!

Desert Rat
09-24-18, 15:33
Back in the day I dated a stripper and hung out with all of her co-workers. All strip clubs suck if you expect anything more than a table dance. The truth is the dancers do NOT like you or want to have sex with you. The girls want your money and then to have you leave them alone. Yes, sometimes they find a customer attractive or if you have a huge money roll they will leave with you. Both of those events are extremely rare. Go have fun but do not fool yourself that this is anything but a business. Of course, I also know this applies to escorts, too.

RubLover803
09-24-18, 17:41
Stopped by Xplicit in Glendale today around lunch.

Nice that there was no day time cover.

Only two girls working.

Had a floor dance with "Candy" and she treated me well.

Definitely enjoyed my visit.

DkPersonal
09-29-18, 22:12
Was in the neighborhood so I stopped by. The place looks like a regular strip club but the quality of girls was the best I have ever seen and I've seen a lot. Every girl was like a 8 or 9. It was unbelievable. The downside, these girls were detached from reality or something. I saw one girl spit on a guy for tipping $1. That was also a first for me, I had never seen a stripper do that and the poor guy had just arrived and everyone was in shock. Anyways, there is an all nude club within the same place that does not serve alcohol. I went in there for about 2 minutes. That was a creep show. Plus there was seemingly no A / C in there neither, hot af. Maybe all these girls were college girls that thought just because they take off their clothes that money would rain down from the sky and their attitude don't matter. Well I hate to inform, attitude matters.

Az Hobby Habit
10-01-18, 12:32
Went to Candy Store Saturday night with some work friends, so no first hand mileage reports, but did have some good info.

1. Lots of hot girls. I did not see any black girls, but everyone else was represented. Big booby MILFs, skinny spinners, curvy Latina, Asians with and without fake boobs, alternative college chicks, models. I was really impressed. I was there for two hours and didn't make it all the way through the main stage lineup, so there were tons of girls working.

2. Floor dances. I side eyed the floor dances and saw lots of hands on boobs, a few discrete kitty flashes, lots of grinding and motor boating. One time I saw management poke their head onto main room but they didn't seem to care.

3. VIP. They have very private VIP cubicles that I couldn't see into. Based on the floor mileage, I bet with the right girl you could have a pretty good time. Also, in the 2 hours I was there, I didn't see anyone but girls and customers to in. Unless there is a camera, it would be very inconvenient to casually check in on it since when the club is full you would have to wade through customers.

I may have to make a solo trip back soon and see if it's as good as it seems.

SingDong99
10-01-18, 12:40
Hey guys,

I'm flying in from Detroit and want to hit a club tomorrow night (Tuesday). I'm staying with friend in Scottsdale but he's picking me up from the airport at 5:30 pm and we are going to try to hit a club from there. He doesn't really know the scene so I thought I'd ask here. Now, our clubs in Detroit are awesome if you're looking for extras. I don't necessarily need FS but I don't want floor dances or just lame grinding in the VIP either. What are some good clubs to hit where extras are available but also has good looking girls? I'm looking for clubs where there are multiple 7+ girls. Thanks in advance! I'm happy to return the favor for anyone coming to Detroit!

Az Hobby Habit
10-01-18, 13:31
Hey guys,

I'm flying in from Detroit and want to hit a club tomorrow night (Tuesday). I'm staying with friend in Scottsdale but he's picking me up from the airport at 5:30 pm and we are going to try to hit a club from there. He doesn't really know the scene so I thought I'd ask here. Now, our clubs in Detroit are awesome if you're looking for extras. I don't necessarily need FS but I don't want floor dances or just lame grinding in the VIP either. What are some good clubs to hit where extras are available but also has good looking girls? I'm looking for clubs where there are multiple 7+ girls. Thanks in advance! I'm happy to return the favor for anyone coming to Detroit!Hi Liter seems to be the best intersection of high mileage and hot girls right now. The right girl will have the bouncers tipped out properly to let the VIP be as fun as you can afford it to be. The girls I've seen weren't too subtle about the pitch either, so I think it's a pretty permissive environment at the moment unless anyone else contradicts me.

WhoMe111
10-02-18, 08:29
Went to Candy Store Saturday night with some work friends, so no first hand mileage reports, but did have some good info.

1. Lots of hot girls. I did not see any black girls, but everyone else was represented. Big booby MILFs, skinny spinners, curvy Latina, Asians with and without fake boobs, alternative college chicks, models. I was really impressed. I was there for two hours and didn't make it all the way through the main stage lineup, so there were tons of girls working.

2. Floor dances. I side eyed the floor dances and saw lots of hands on boobs, a few discrete kitty flashes, lots of grinding and motor boating. One time I saw management poke their head onto main room but they didn't seem to care.

3. VIP. They have very private VIP cubicles that I couldn't see into. Based on the floor mileage, I bet with the right girl you could have a pretty good time. Also, in the 2 hours I was there, I didn't see anyone but girls and customers to in. Unless there is a camera, it would be very inconvenient to casually check in on it since when the club is full you would have to wade through customers.

I may have to make a solo trip back soon and see if it's as good as it seems.That is a pleasant surprise. The last time I was there a few 5's and NO TOUCHING at all. I will give it another try, more convenient than driving down to Hi-Liter.

Thanks for the info.

Desert Rat
10-02-18, 17:21
Went to Candy Store Saturday night with some work friends, so no first hand mileage reports, but did have some good info.

1. Lots of hot girls. I did not see any black girls, but everyone else was represented. Big booby MILFs, skinny spinners, curvy Latina, Asians with and without fake boobs, alternative college chicks, models. I was really impressed. I was there for two hours and didn't make it all the way through the main stage lineup, so there were tons of girls working.

2. Floor dances. I side eyed the floor dances and saw lots of hands on boobs, a few discrete kitty flashes, lots of grinding and motor boating. One time I saw management poke their head onto main room but they didn't seem to care.

3. VIP. They have very private VIP cubicles that I couldn't see into. Based on the floor mileage, I bet with the right girl you could have a pretty good time. Also, in the 2 hours I was there, I didn't see anyone but girls and customers to in. Unless there is a camera, it would be very inconvenient to casually check in on it since when the club is full you would have to wade through customers.

I may have to make a solo trip back soon and see if it's as good as it seems.I went there 15 years ago and the place sucked ass. The tables were sticky. The beer was warm. The girls were old as the hills. Thanks for the new report.

Higgs Boson
10-05-18, 00:12
Little Higgs woke me up this morning, saying, "Wow that was fun last night. When can we go to Essex again?. " Me (groggy and sleepy): "Next pay check. ".

Before I continue, here's some minor updates:

Drove by Minks one night a couple weeks ago. Literally. It was totally dark and I passed it before I realized it. Did a you turn and pulled into the parking lot. Not a good sign. No lights, no cars. Not necessarily a bad thing for us since I think the management was clueless. I won't get into my rant. Maybe another time. Dancers also tell me that the house fees nickel-and-dime them. OTOH, dancers could just show up and dance. Met a handful of hot dancers there over the years but you never knew who would be there and what it would be like until you entered the door.

Since I was in the neighborhood, I decided to swing by Nubians, the nude place near 36th Ave on McDowell. It too was dark, no cars and the sign was gone. Not too surprised. Noted by another forum member, the demographics have changed in the area. The management also needed to get a clue. For example, I stopped by a couple months ago to find the front door locked. According to my sources, the manager on duty felt ill and decided to close it down. At least that's what he told ownership. You can't allow an establishment to shut down and expect customers to come by on later nights. They just stop showing up. Too bad, cause I did see a couple of hot dancers there. My Fave 1 tried it for awhile but, not surprisingly, gave up. The customers typically would show up sit around the small stage, gawk, perhaps tip a dollar or two and leave. Dancers made almost no money and stopped showing up. Some day I'll stop by Eve's Tease to figure out how they make it work there. Haven't been inside for many years. Dave used to visit the club occasionally.

Fox's: every now and the there's some minor activity around the site. A couple weeks ago, a construction dumpster was there and removed. Last week a work truck was parked by a side entrance. I don't think anything will happen. Too much competition in the area (ABC, Dirty's, Essex and Chicas).

As I noted a month or two ago, I was on the final stages of a SB / SD arrangement and I think that finally ended this week. Starting the beginning of August, I occasionally visited clubs, typically Bandaids or Essex.

The usual pattern at Essex is that things are slow until after 9 PM and builds until about Midnight with the party going to 2 AM. The place opens about 1 PM or 2 PM and there are some girls there but not many. I usually visit on Wednesday evening, arriving between 9 and 9:30. Drink specials start about that time. Frankly, I try to be nice when discussing dancers but, on my first night returning to Essex, I took a seat at a table after getting my first beverage at the bar. I was soon joined by a skinny dancer who may have been latina, and she tried to get a feel about how receptive I would be. In her case, not very. It may have been the UV lights reacting with her cosmetics but she looked hideous.

Last night, I was seated at the very same table but had glanced at one of the black dancers before my eyes had fully adjusted. She took it as a positive sign and sat next to me. I soon realized she was not the kind of dancer I was looking for but I try to be Mr. Nice Guy. She brought up the subject of dances and I asked her what about the area behind Stage 2 (you have go up a step or two and the area has nice comfy chairs). She said she charged $20/ dance up there. (she might but that's not what the club says) She said, the VIP cost $25 (correct), and at the tables, $10. (no) She must have thought I was a newb or really desperate. I dropped the subject. Gave her a tip. Later, I found an excuse to visit the Men's room and brought my drink with me.

Officially, the club says dances by the Stage 2 area cost $10 each. Some dancers will say $15 and I occasionally let them get away with it but they just don't get as much money from me since I limit the dances to four at that price. Always check with the dancer before starting in that area.

To contrast, a couple weeks ago I met this really charming and hot dancer who was returning after a period away from Essex. She knew me from another club and after a few minutes of tease and flirting at the bar, we decided to move to that area behind Stage 2. On the way to that area, she asked an assistant manager about the pricing. He informed her, $10/ dance. That inquiry and her behavior during the dances, assured me that I was being treated fairly, even generously. In return, she got paid for many dances and I even gave extra. We met again last night and I was not disappointed.

At Essex, the magic hour is 11 PM. That's when the really hot dancers show up to catch the growing crowd. My jaw dropped a couple times after 11 PM last night but I kept my composure until that hot dancer got sight of me. She said she missed me the previous week. Nice stroke for my ego as she progressed into the tease and flirting. Little Higgs loved it and it wasn't long before we moved to that area behind Stage 2 and continued where we left off.

About a month ago, I dropped by Bandaids. I almost always find a dancer there I like. Often I know them from previous visits. That evening I went home with three new phone numbers and I hadn't even brought up the subject with the dancers. Of course, they want me to be at the club when they're there, and vice versa. My opinion: be a nice guy, give the dancers a known positive quality and things can happen. This isn't going to happen on a single club visit. That can work in some cities, and in Phoenix sometimes but not consistently.

I know some people get irritated that I don't get very specific with names and activities. It has been noted here before but local authorities do read these sort of sites. This was brought home to a forum member during a traffic stop a few years ago. At that time he had a user name here that was very close to his vanity license plate. The officer asked if he was XXXXXX on this forum. I also have sources reporting that Valley LE follow social media in an official capacity. Finally, some forum members believe it's more than a coincidence that "raids" I. E. LE and alcohol authority visits and fines, at the Hi Liter happened after a period of very descriptive club reviews of VIP activities. Those are reasons I keep the details and dancer descriptions vague, or at least difficult to pin down. I also don't want some jerk walking up to a dancer and asking, "Didn't you do (specific act) with a guy named Higgs?

It's time for me to find some new faves. Fave 1 is looking for another vocation and has become scarce. She has made Phoenix her home even bringing other family to the area. Fave A is more mobile and decided to leave Phoenix to take up dancing in another state in the US South. Fave X has also moved to the US South and divides her time between two states. Done OTC with all three. Had a voice call from Ms M after many months. I couldn't talk at that time and I asked if we could txt later. With her OK, I sent her a txt later which was unanswered. However, late that night I got txts from an unknown number demanding to know who I was. My theory, someone's part or full time BF was looking at Ms M's phone and saw my txt. Anyway, with the SB out of the picture now, it's time to find someone else for extracurricular activities.

Higgs.

Higgs Boson
10-05-18, 00:25
I went there 15 years ago and the place sucked ass. The tables were sticky. The beer was warm. The girls were old as the hills. Thanks for the new report.Reminds me of a line in a Marx Brother's movie: "Some party. The beer is warm, the women are cold, and I'm getting hot under the collar. ".

Color me skeptical but this place is typically at the bottom of my strip club list. It seemed like the place to go to see tatooed biker babes and the management carefully watched each dance. If you touched the dancer ANYWHERE, you were immediately scolded to keep you hands at your sides. The best part of this club seemed to be the bar area which served as a very nice sports bar. Overall the Candy Store seemed like a nice place to hang out if you lived in the area.

Granted, I haven't been here in years, purposely because other clubs beckoned with better prospects.

Maybe BigTim will want to visit to add to his club count.

Higgs.

Bob521
10-09-18, 23:53
I'm visiting from Chicago next week and wanted to ask about dress codes. Are shorts or sweatpants permitted, or is normal attire required? Was considering Chicas, Bandaids, Hi-Liter, Candy Store. After reading Higgs report, Essex seems to belong on the short list. In Chicago the "classy joints" have dress codes. But the dive bars let you wear almost anything. Any advice appreciated. Happy to reciprocate if anyone travels to the windy city.

Thanks, Bob.

OnPorpoise
10-10-18, 00:02
I'm visiting from Chicago next week and wanted to ask about dress codes. Are shorts or sweatpants permitted, or is normal attire required? Was considering Chicas, Bandaids, Hi-Liter, Candy Store. After reading Higgs report, Essex seems to belong on the short list. In Chicago the "classy joints" have dress codes. But the dive bars let you wear almost anything. Any advice appreciated. Happy to reciprocate if anyone travels to the windy city.

Thanks, Bob.Chicas bandaids and hi-liter I know don't have strict dress codes. I usually wear sweats and a tshirt.