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Yyxx
04-21-06, 12:17
So, you live in Wisconsin and you need to get laid? Well, good luck with that, my friend. If you don't want to try your luck at the bars and you want to spend some hard-earned cash for sex, you do have choices. Not many, but there are some. Here are Wisconsin's options for those who want to practice "the hobby," as we call it.


I. ESCORTS

Escorts are the highest-end option. These are essentially "call girls" that you meet either at your hotel ("outcall"), or their hotel or occasionally at their home ("incall"). Some are local, some travel around the country. Rates usually start at $200 and can run up to $400 or more for top-shelf touring porn stars. $250-300 is average. Generally speaking, the younger and hotter the girl, the higher the price.

There are many escorts in Milwaukee, some in Madison, and a few in Green Bay and the Fox Valley. Touring escorts (from agencies like Miami Companions, Taylor's Elite, etc.) usually come to Milwaukee only.

How does it work? You can find out about escorts on a variety of local websites, including heaven-or-hell.com and eros-wisconsin.com. You make contact either by phone or email and arrange an appointment. Usually, the girl will tell you to call when you are in the neighborhood or outside the hotel, and give you the room number. You come in, leave the "gift" (in an envelope is best) on the table, and "get comfortable" -- ie, get naked, which reassures her that you are not a cop. What happens then is between two consenting adults.

Be aware that different escorts have different limits. Some are incredibly hot but rather mechanical and business-like. Others pride themselves on being a "GFE": a "girlfriend experience," which essentially means she either really enjoys it or acts like she does, usually with kissing, cuddling, and sometimes oral without a condom. Not every girl who claims to be a GFE really is, or is for everyone. Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV).

So are escorts worth the price? Well, that depends. Again, YMMV holds true. The best-looking girls aren't always the best value in terms of cost vs. experience. And, there are some very average girls who charge much more than they are really worth. Older ones often make up for softer bodies with greater skills. There is a general consensus in the Wisconsin community that local agencies aren't usually worth it, as opposed to indies and touring agencies. Read reviews, ask around.


II. MASSAGE PARLORS / BATH HOUSES

Don't walk into your average day spa and ask the girl for sex; this is a sure way to get your ass kicked out. But, if you want a little pampering with a nice hand release and maybe more, there are options. Sadly, there are no Asian Massage Parlors (AMPs) in Wisconsin since a crackdown in the Milwaukee area several years ago. These places, usually run by Koreans, set the standard for quick and easy satisfaction throughout much of the country. Following are your choices.

MILWAUKEE:

There are a couple of independent African-American women who have their own massage practices and offer sensual full-body massage for around $125. They frequently advertise on milwaukee.craigslist.org and do a nice job, though the offerings are limited.

Other indy girls have advertised on craigslist as well, but none have stayed around long enough to establish a reputation. Ads in the Shepherd Express and Onion (which have mostly stopped now anyway) are almost always a disappointment.

If you have money to burn, there is a provider of tantric massage in Milwaukee who has several girls that work with him. His website is tantricmassage.net, and a four-hand massage in your home or hotel (him and a girl or two girls; he will not send a single girl and does not offer incall) will cost $200-250. This is a legitimate massage with Eastern mystic "energy work," and it is quite enjoyable and erotic (the girl does that part). He also does couples if you want to include your significant other in your activities.

RACINE:

Nancy Rae's Spa has been around forever, and so had Nancy Rae herself until she passed away in the fall of '05. It is truly a bottom-of-the-barrel experience, on Douglas in a not-so-nice neighborhood, but it is the single cheapest option in Wisconsin short of trolling the streets -- $40 for a light-touch massage with hand release. The women are old, the place is dirty, but sometimes you just feel like slumming it. They are usually only open in the daytime.

MADISON:

Madison has two "bath houses," Geisha House and Rising Sun. Both offer a reasonable experience, with either a massage or full service available in 40 or 60 minute programs, and a variety of woman of all physical types and ages.

Geisha House is on the Northeast side, on Washington just north of Hwy 30. It is quite nice, with real massage tables and showers offered. You choose your girl when you enter, pay the girl the house fee of $60, and then an additional tip to the girl, either $60 for massage with release or $120 for full service. Shower, do your thing, shower, and leave happy. Some girls, however, do not offer FS, and some will upsell. YMMV.

Rising Sun is downtown near the capitol, on the second floor at 117 W. Main right off the square. The procedure is generally the same as at the Geisha House, except service is provided in a private room with a twin mattress on the floor. Kind of like your first apartment. It is generally not as nice as the Geisha House but there is less upselling for full service.


III. STREET WALKERS

The streets are your cheapest option (as little as $20 for a suck and spit, or $60 for FS), but also the most dangerous -- you can get ripped off, arrested, or catch something nasty far more easily than with the safer options. The best information on the street scene in Wisconsin and around the country can be found on the relevant pages of this website.

If you must indulge, here are some rules to follow. Never pick up a girl who isn't walking; if she's standing on a corner, it's probably a sting. Never discuss business through the window; a real SW will get in your car. Never go where she tells you to do the deed; this is a good way to get mugged by her pimp/boyfriend. And never leave valuables where she can get at them; use your trunk or a locked glove compartment, because most are accomplished pickpockets.

MILWAUKEE:

Street action is much less available than it used to be since the new police chief came on board. There are lots of stings. The traditional strolls are on the North side, on North Ave. between 3rd and 35th and Lisbon between 27th and 35th, and on the South side, on National, Greenfield and Lincoln between 6th and 35th. Late nights are best, but you can spot girls any time of the day -- or cruise for hours and see none, even at night. Be aware that many SWs are crackwhores who can range from butt ugly to downright frightening, in a dangerous way. But you can also find reasonably nice ones. It's far from a sure thing.

MADISON:

The street trade in Madison is very spotty. The main stroll is Badger Road between Park and Fish Hatchery. Watch out for LE.

RACINE:

SWs, mostly black, can often be found on Douglas and the neighborhood around.


IV. GENTLEMENS CLUBS

To quote Chris Rock: "There is no sex in the Champagne Room. There's champagne in the Champagne Room, but there is no sex in the Champagne Room." Strip clubs are usually not a good value for your hobby dollar, unless you just want to look at mostly naked, reasonably attractive (not a given in this state...) young women. This isn't Texas or Florida, and real fun is not always going to happen in the club. It can sometimes happen, but generally speaking, your new best friend named "Sindee" really doesn't give a damn about you; as long as you keep stuffing bills in her garter belt, she's your best friend. Private dances in this state often can't even be called "lap dances"; touching of any sort is almost never allowed by management. However, some dancers have more relaxed standards than others; you just need luck and persistence.

However, it is sometimes possible to arrange to have "more fun" with a girl after hours. Your best bet for getting "take out" (as it is called) is usually black dancers at Milwaukee's clubs (most likely the inner city clubs, almost never at On The Border or Silk), or especially those who travel to outstate clubs. Showtime in Wausau has been mentioned many times in this regard.

Be aware, though, that you will usually have to spend a lot of money on beer, dollar tips, and private dances to make this happen, and you can end up paying escort rates before you are done. But for many guys, the thrill of the chase is as much a part of the attraction as the actual score, and in that case, this can be a good way to go. It's probably best to approach the strip club option as entertainment on its own, and if you can "get lucky," so much the better.


V. GO TO ILLINOIS

If you live in the southern part of the state, a trip across the border to Bear country can be worthwhile.

AMPs:

There are AMPs in Libertyville, off I-94 just past Six Flags. They are usually not full service and the women aren't always young, but if you have the urge for a nice assisted table shower, sauna, massage and hand release, it will set you back $100-120 ($60 for half-hour, $80 for full hour, $40 tip). For more info, see the "Libertyville AMPs" thread under Illinois>Waukegan/Gurnee.

Sadly, Rockford's excellent AMP scene ended with a major police crackdown in '05.

EMPs:

The Mt. Prospect and Deerfield area is home to several European Massage Parlors. Prices and programs are similar to AMPs, with girls mostly from Eastern Europe. Generally not full service. See Illinois>Mt. Prospect for info.

BELVIDERE MPs:

The small town of Belvidere, just east of Rockford, is home to two massage parlors, Executive Relaxation Station and C'est La Vie. A one-hour massage with an American girl in these places costs $85, with tip appreciated but not required (the $15 change from your Franklin is usually appropriate). You will not get more than a hand release or sometimes Russian, but she will get naked (you must take off her swimsuit) and let you massage her as well. Exec is generally considered the better bet, but both are pretty sure things for what they offer. See Illinois>Belvidere for info.

ROCKFORD LINGERIE SHOPS:

Rockford no longer has AMPs that are worth visiting, but it does have two "Lingerie Shops," Exclusive and Chantilly Lace. You go in, pay $75 for a semi-private room with a hot (or not-so-hot) girl in lingerie, and she will model for you and you can service yourself. Tip her, and you can get service from her. FS can be had, but usually not on the first visit, and the price varies by girl. The girls are uneven in looks, frequently have bad attitudes, and sometimes have worked the streets; it is pretty much the definition of YMMV. Consensus is younger, hotter girls but worse service at Chantilly, older girls but better chance of FS at Exclusive. See Illinois>Rockford for info.

CHINESE APARTMENTS:

There are Chinese-run "brothels" in private apartments in the northern Chicago suburbs, advertised on chicagoafterdark.com under "Massage." You call and get a general location from a Chinese man (usually very difficult to understand), then call again when you arrive to get the exact location. Sometimes the girl greets you at the door, sometimes the man, who will occasionally be in the living room while you go to the bedroom with the girl. The cost is usually $80 to the house and $80 to the girl, and it is full service.

CAs are very hit-or-miss, but can be a great value at $160 if you get a good girl. Some are young, very beautiful and love their work, others are old, ugly and half-hearted at best. There is usually no way to tell what you are going to get because the girls move around frequently, though reviews are sometimes posted under Illinois>Evanston/Skokie and occasionally Illinois>Mt. Prospect.

Yyxx
04-21-06, 12:30
It occurred to me that there is no one-stop shop for Wisconsin info, so I created one. I worked on this with the help of several other h-or-h.com denizens. Suggestions are welcome.

KingDd
04-22-06, 17:45
great, a one stop shop for the cops. great idea

Yyxx
04-24-06, 12:31
great, a one stop shop for the cops. great idea


(laughs)

Nothing here the cops don't already know, KDd. You think they're unaware there are hoes on North Ave, or that Rising Sun provides more than baths? Nothing's here that hasn't already been discussed on this or other boards; I just put it all in one place for the newbie.

Craven Morehead
04-24-06, 18:39
Great stuff & a good idea. We don't need to worry about LE learning from this kind of thing. Local cops are not quite as dopey as portrayed on the Simpsons. Witness the recent mindboggling acquitals in the Milwaukee Jude beatings where they all banded together to beat the system. They know what illegal activity looks like & where to find it.

My only criticism of the post is that it starts out as a good WI FAQ then morphs into a IL FAQ. Not too surprising as there's not much here, but some of it should move to another board. Otherwise it'll be useful & stop some of us answering very basic questions. I still have a big list of frequently unanswered questions, which I'll call FUQ.

Yyxx
04-25-06, 10:48
Thanks, Craven. My point exactly.

I see your point on it turning into an IL FAQ, but crossing a border is a reality of the hobby for many of us. And I pretty much covered every other option, so...

Would love to hear your FUQ!

Call Me Booger
04-25-06, 14:28
I also would be curious to hear your FUQ's, plus I just like the sound of that.

It doesn't bother me that some of the ILL info sits in here. As a monger on this site, I've found out some interesting city/state folders to read about from casual references. For example, when I first started reading here, I was reading the Rockford forum, and a couple of posts talked about the AMPS in the burbs, which being new to the hobby, I had never read the Mt. Prospect section, and probably wouldn't of if not for this.

Ultimately Madison to Rockford is only a little over a hour drive time, and I would imagine most of us in this hobby prefer not to monger in our own backyard, so anything with a reasonable drive time is okay.

Just my .02

Mad City Dave
04-28-06, 22:54
In the excellent FAQ, I must suggest an enhancement. MADISON - - Be carefull on the Badger road suggestion. There are road signs that indicate "no stopping" between 8:00p and 6:00a. If one would stop to talk with a a walker, you could be stopped for that violation. BTW..I haven't seen any possible action in that area in a year. Badger road east of Park was better.

PeeWee
05-28-06, 23:35
I still have a big list of frequently unanswered questions, which I'll call FUQ.


FUQ ?
If I am reading this right, your thinking about the way Lefty would write his reports. He left nothing to the imagination everything was in great detail of the encounter.

Now that's the way the advanced hobbyists wants to read a report or am I wrong about this.

Yyxx
06-06-06, 12:18
Since it came up in a different thread, I thought I would add this: my personal tip-o-the-hat to the four regular posters from the Wisconsin area that I have found the most interesting, helpful, entertaining, or provacative. Other opinions/suggestions welcome...

CRAVEN MOREHEAD: A regular Racine poster who gets a shoutout for coming up with the most amusing nickname for a streetwalker friend ever: "Simpleton Funbags."

SIR PHUKZALOT: Besides the great handle, Sir P is recognized for posting his very witty (and dead on) rules for SWs in the Racine forum on 4/30/05. They should be required reading for every newbie.

REALFUN (AMPed UP): The consummate member of the monger community and the king of reports on the Rockford AMPs during their heyday. His 8/26/03 report of a session in which he was the first customer of a young girl fresh off the boat from Korea was darn close to poetry.

And, of course...

LOOKINGFORLEFTY: Love him or hate him, Lefty was the only reason the Milwaukee board should ever have been put with a link on the front page of this website. The ultimate controversial poster, his detailed descriptions of his escapades, whether true or not, had the appeal of a highway accident - you hated yourself for slowing down to read them, but you couldn't help it and you often felt guilty for laughing afterward. After a last post on 1/12/05, Lefty disappeared with no explanation.

Member #4914
06-06-06, 20:36
SIR PHUKZALOT: Besides the great handle, Sir P is recognized for posting his very witty (and dead on) rules for SWs in the Racine forum on 4/30/05. They should be required reading for every newbie.



Aw gee chucks! Thanks for the kudos.

Wow, to named in the same post as Mr Craven Morehead and and the most famous poster of all: LookingFor Lefty is quite an honer.

I also nominate you Yyxx as the the author of the best FAQ on any of our US city boards. And would add the Infamous PeeWee & Hoehoehoe who combined have posted than most of the other states!

Kinda lets a fella know that his monger dollars are being well spent in Wisconsin!

PsyberZombie
06-07-06, 07:03
And, of course...

LOOKINGFORLEFTY: Love him or hate him, Lefty was the only reason the Milwaukee board should ever have been put with a link on the front page of this website. The ultimate controversial poster, his detailed descriptions of his escapades, whether true or not, had the appeal of a highway accident - you hated yourself for slowing down to read them, but you couldn't help it and you often felt guilty for laughing afterward. After a last post on 1/12/05, Lefty disappeared with no explanation.

As all of Lefty's fans know = he led a very dangerous and violently criminal life·style

He was repeatedly warned by Yours Truly and others that he was playing with fire

There's absolutely no question in my own mind that Lefty is either dead or in prison =
Live by the SWord / Die by the SWord .....

PeeWee
06-09-06, 21:14
As all of Lefty's fans know = he led a very dangerous and violently criminal life·style

He was repeatedly warned by Yours Truly and others that he was playing with fire

There's absolutely no question in my own mind that Lefty is either dead or in prison =
Live by the SWord / Die by the SWord .....

Or the possibility of someone found out who he was in real life and threatened him with his life. Although a great writer and hobbyist with his entertaining reports Lefty did have some fear in him.

I think the main thing is, being a satisfied customer of providers that he was did he have full consent from his victims at all times. This was not always clear in his reports which might have lead to his downfall or disappearance.

You can play the passive role "letting the provider leed and call the action to be played" or play the dominate male aggressive role "and you call the shots of service" so long as full consent is maintained what's the difference? It's just a individual choice you should have the freedom to make but most escorts, escort agencies, massage parlor, ect, don't go along with this way of thinking and most likely why Lefty favored SW's to get it done his way and most of us cheered him on. so go figure.

Angelofwis
03-31-09, 07:52
Yyyw? You from Racine? I have been living here all my life, you said something to the fact that escorts in Racine are old? I don't think so. Excuse me if I'm wrong about you saying that, please illiterate. I mostly work out of Madison, and Greenbay and sometimes Milwaukee. I think the Racine area does not have alot of traffic anyway for escorts.

Kenosha is a good area to work in.

X Factor414
04-01-09, 14:02
Yyyw? You from Racine? I have been living here all my life, you said something to the fact that escorts in Racine are old? I don't think so. Excuse me if I'm wrong about you saying that, please illiterate.



Please illiterate? Not even close but could you mean "elaborate"?

Angelofwis
04-02-09, 00:24
Please illiterate? Not even close but could you mean "elaborate"?Oh I am sorry there College Professor that dont make mistakes. Yes I meant elaborate.

Yyxx
04-03-09, 13:33
Yyyw? You from Racine? I have been living here all my life, you said something to the fact that escorts in Racine are old? I don't think so. Excuse me if I'm wrong about you saying that, please illiterate. I mostly work out of Madison, and Greenbay and sometimes Milwaukee. I think the Racine area does not have alot of traffic anyway for escorts.

Kenosha is a good area to work in.


Hello Angel,

I'm afraid you misunderstood me -- go back and read again. I was writing about the former Nancy Rae's Spa, where the women were in fact old (and ugly... shuddering at the memories). I meant no disrespect toward you or any other provider originally hailing from Racine.

Coldspy2008
01-26-13, 01:57
Many mongers and the ladies seem to think that simply by asking if the client or the lady is a cop or other law enforcement, that the officer has to answer truthfully. NOT TRUE! Cops undercover are permitted by law to lie. It is not entrapment, because the monger or the does intend to purchase / sell her services, and doing so is a crime. Entrapment only works when the person is enticed into the illegal conduct. In other words, but for the conduct of the officer, the person would not have committed the act.

Even fondling the provider's breasts, or other body part doesn't protect you. Allowing the monger to fondle is a consensual act and not a crime. But soliciting her favors is. Once you ask for rates or offer to pay you commit the crime independent of anything else.

My advice: meet your ladies only on referral of trusted friends, these fori, or another provider. Forget BP and CL unless you can confirm independently, that the erstwhile provider is one in fact.

And, yes, I am a lawyer.

Too Nice
01-26-13, 16:43
Once you ask for rates or offer to pay you commit the crime independent of anything else.Did you really mean to say that it's illegal to pay for company, a strip tease, or a massage? There are a lot of lonely people out there, just look at how packed the strip clubs get. Just paying alone doesn't make it illegal, but paying for sexual services is what's illegal.

Coldspy2008
01-26-13, 21:15
Did you really mean to say that it's illegal to pay for company, a strip tease, or a massage? There are a lot of lonely people out there, just look at how packed the strip clubs get. Just paying alone doesn't make it illegal, but paying for sexual services is what's illegal.You are correct. Getting a striptease or a non-sexual massage is not illegal. Lap dances may be, depending on how repressed your chief Leo is. I should have been more clear.

Sorry

CreamCityDick
01-31-13, 11:37
Concerning massages. If I pay an unliscensced "bodyworks" specialist for a straight up legit massage is it illegal?


Many mongers and the ladies seem to think that simply by asking if the client or the lady is a cop or other law enforcement, that the officer has to answer truthfully. NOT TRUE! Cops undercover are permitted by law to lie. It is not entrapment, because the monger or the does intend to purchase / sell her services, and doing so is a crime. Entrapment only works when the person is enticed into the illegal conduct. In other words, but for the conduct of the officer, the person would not have committed the act.

Even fondling the provider's breasts, or other body part doesn't protect you. Allowing the monger to fondle is a consensual act and not a crime. But soliciting her favors is. Once you ask for rates or offer to pay you commit the crime independent of anything else.

My advice: meet your ladies only on referral of trusted friends, these fori, or another provider. Forget BP and CL unless you can confirm independently, that the erstwhile provider is one in fact.

And, yes, I am a lawyer.

Coldspy2008
10-30-21, 21:01
I know I saw an explanation somewhere but I can't find the post and the search feature didn't either, so what are the meanings of L1, L2, etc?

Coldspy2008
10-30-21, 21:05
Concerning massages. If I pay an unliscensced "bodyworks" specialist for a straight up legit massage is it illegal?Probably. The state or municipality wants to get its license fees. Also, they want to enforce the health codes.

MaintenanceMan
11-11-21, 16:26
I know I saw an explanation somewhere but I can't find the post and the search feature didn't either, so what are the meanings of L1, L2, etc?Levels (of massage): A Level 1 (L1) massage is massage with a "happy ending" (I. E. Hand job). Level 2 (L2) massage includes a blow job, and Level 3 (L3) is full service.

NitroPimp
01-03-22, 15:23
Many mongers and the ladies seem to think that simply by asking if the client or the lady is a cop or other law enforcement, that the officer has to answer truthfully. NOT TRUE! Cops undercover are permitted by law to lie. It is not entrapment, because the monger or the does intend to purchase / sell her services, and doing so is a crime. Entrapment only works when the person is enticed into the illegal conduct. In other words, but for the conduct of the officer, the person would not have committed the act.

Even fondling the provider's breasts, or other body part doesn't protect you. Allowing the monger to fondle is a consensual act and not a crime. But soliciting her favors is. Once you ask for rates or offer to pay you commit the crime independent of anything else.

My advice: meet your ladies only on referral of trusted friends, these fori, or another provider. Forget BP and CL unless you can confirm independently, that the erstwhile provider is one in fact.

And, yes, I am a lawyer.Thank you for your contribution. No I have several questions about the session and the HE and what leads up to that. Many of us know that the tease is probably one of the best parts of the whole session. Obviously if that occurred on an Undercover police officer somebody's going to jail. Right?

What about accidental brushes though?

But what about the old "I'll help you" techniques on self serve? Are they really allowed to massage your scrotum for the base of your cock? Many of them believe there's nothing wrong with that. As long as they don't touch the shaft or the head they feel like it's okay.

Then afterwards they take a hot towel and masturbate you with it anyways! So what are the legal implications of that even?

Or, what about a total self-serve where the guy does it himself? Should the girl even be in the same room? What liability does she have even if she doesn't touch?

Looking forward to your reply!

Coldspy2008
01-04-22, 13:50
Thank you for your contribution. No I have several questions about the session and the HE and what leads up to that. Many of us know that the tease is probably one of the best parts of the whole session. Obviously if that occurred on an Undercover police officer somebody's going to jail. Right?

What about accidental brushes though?

But what about the old "I'll help you" techniques on self serve? Are they really allowed to massage your scrotum for the base of your cock? Many of them believe there's nothing wrong with that. As long as they don't touch the shaft or the head they feel like it's okay.

Then afterwards they take a hot towel and masturbate you with it anyways! So what are the legal implications of that even?

Or, what about a total self-serve where the guy does it himself? Should the girl even be in the same room? What liability does she have even if she doesn't touch?

Looking forward to your reply!IMO ANY touching for the purpose of sexual stimulation could be prosecuted, the tease and the masturbation included. Whether the monger would be prosecuted is a judgment call. Totally self-serve and "accidental" touching are another matter and the DA would have to consider the evidence and whether it was worth his time and the office budget. Pretty weak case, tho.

NitroPimp
01-04-22, 16:34
IMO ANY touching for the purpose of sexual stimulation could be prosecuted, the tease and the masturbation included. Whether the monger would be prosecuted is a judgment call. Totally self-serve and "accidental" touching are another matter and the DA would have to consider the evidence and whether it was worth his time and the office budget. Pretty weak case, tho.Thanks for your reply.

You kind of told me what I wanted to know. These girls that play with your balls and pour oil on you when you self-serve are subject to prosecution also. Just because they don't touch the head or the shaft they're still trying to help you with sexual satisfaction. Did I get that right?

Self serve can be ubject to interpretation I guess. I doubt it would make it in front of a jury. I don't think the stakes are high enough. Pay the fine and go.

Next question if you have time. Hypothetical situation undercover cop goes into the room. It's all legit in the beginning. He reaches for her ass cheek she moves away. He reaches again this time she doesn't move away because she thinks "! It's going to be okay you can't be a cop, right?" She feels like it's a safe bet to give him an HE. Can he do that? Or is that entrapment?