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CarmeloJoe35
03-11-19, 21:18
In this case, LE got a warrant to put video (no audio) cameras in the massage rooms. Looked at the police report and it doesn't say how / when they installed them.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-ne-search-warrants-unsealed-day-spa-20190311-story, AMP. Html.

The article tells how the police got the cameras in the parlor.

Randy313
03-12-19, 06:09
Anybody been to Meisen? Legit or nah?

Wally2822
03-12-19, 11:09
Hey, just so I got an apt at 7 tonight with Marilyn figured I'd try my first private provider somewhere safe. Wondering what prices were for extras. I would like to try and get on the preferred client list.Howd it go and what was the damage?

Wally2822
03-12-19, 11:10
Hello mates. Looking for a provider accepting appointments at their house or apartments in west side. PM me. I can share a few too.

Stay safe.Check your PM sir. I realized there is a lot more action and UTRs in the PMs then the actual posts. Thanks to all that contribute and TOFTT on diff providers.

PangeMiscinta
03-12-19, 13:00
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-ne-search-warrants-unsealed-day-spa-20190311-story, AMP. Html.

The article tells how the police got the cameras in the parlor.Great.

Really have second thought about going nowadays.

Bruce248
03-12-19, 15:47
Does anyone have her number? I got a new number and lost all my contacts.

Zoman
03-12-19, 19:44
Had the pleasure of being Tiffany's first appointment in her new room today. She really did an awesome job. Wow. Super nice. It is a much much better experience. The privacy alone makes it significantly more relaxing. I walked through all the rooms and they are all very well done. Ebony's room is at the end of the hallway while Tiffany's room is at the other end behind a kitchen. All four provider rooms are much bigger.

A new lady named Lina started today. She looks to be late 40's or early 50's. So now there are four.

Tiffany had a food spread which was nice and, of course, complimentary wine.

I spoke with Ebony and she also was thrilled with her new room. No doubt the Ebony fan club out there will be very pleased.

I recommend checking it out.

Cheers.I was going to keep quite about the new girl, just cause if we are to loud about our ferndale place I would hate to lose it like SS. She is a freak, was giving me a camel ride and was trying to go bb. Can't say it didn't. When I couldn't go msog she was riding me and BBBJ trying like crazy so I could hit it. Older but definitely worth a try. Have fun.

MagnifiRod
03-12-19, 20:10
I went to find Judy at One Care, but she left. A small spinner named sheshe or something is there now. Her massage is not bad, but I needed to do too much work to warm her up. She was wearing a padded bra to make her A cups look like C cups. I don't think I will go back.

FCastle88
03-12-19, 20:27
I was going to keep quite about the new girl, just cause if we are to loud about our ferndale place I would hate to lose it like SS. She is a freak, was giving me a camel ride and was trying to go bb. Can't say it didn't. When I couldn't go msog she was riding me and BBBJ trying like crazy so I could hit it. Older but definitely worth a try. Have fun.How does she look?

CallMeRoy
03-13-19, 13:04
Does anyone know what's going on with w. Land AAMP? Seems like its been going to voice mail for few weeks now.

CallMeRoy
03-13-19, 13:26
This is on my radar since they seem to be open later. Any feedback?Older ladies not much to look at but will get the job done. HE.

Zoman
03-13-19, 16:12
How does she look?Older asian, nice body, butter face. Typical AMP.

BigL73
03-13-19, 20:45
Went in for my monthly massage. Opened the door and walked into a room full of cops conducting a "business matter". Asked if I had an appointment for which I responded no. All the masseuses were sitting in the waiting room, their faces sullen. I was presented with a bunch of New York I'd's and inquired if I knew anyone of them. They let me go after a 10 minute interrogation. Stay safe fellow mongers. The heat is on in Ferndale!

Bruce248
03-13-19, 22:41
I just saw sexy Shelly recently in Clinton township. She is the true definition of butterface. Well I guess I can scratch that one off my list. Paid for an hour. That was a mistake. Should have just stick with the half. No massage whatsoever. Just straight to the dirty deed. She did some blowing on the tip thought she was going to go for it but instead just jerked me off. On the way out I noticed a pair of Jordan's had to be a size 12+. Dude was probably in the other room. Anyways she told she was available anytime. I will probably never repeat.

Randy313
03-13-19, 23:16
Went in for my monthly massage. Opened the door and walked into a room full of cops conducting a "business matter". Asked if I had an appointment for which I responded no. All the masseuses were sitting in the waiting room, their faces sullen. I was presented with a bunch of New York I'd's and inquired if I knew anyone of them. They let me go after a 10 minute interrogation. Stay safe fellow mongers. The heat is on in Ferndale!Wholly shit. That means they're monitoring Tiffany's spot too since it's in the same area. Why'all be cautious even with the new rooms even though I haven't been to the new rooms however that upstairs could be a set up with the other "business" being next door to the new rooms.

BigL73
03-14-19, 08:25
Wholly shit. That means they're monitoring Tiffany's spot too since it's in the same area. Why'all be cautious even with the new rooms even though I haven't been to the new rooms however that upstairs could be a set up with the other "business" being next door to the new rooms.Yes. Generally I do not post on forums like this. Avid follower, first time poster. I'm sure there are other folks on this forum that have a "normal" life out of the hobby. I wouldn't want anyone to get caught on the cross hairs. I used to go to AMPs in Troy but after the heat was on all the fun stopped in places I used to visit. For now I would highly stay away from Tiffany's and go to other haunts for fun. I am not affiliated with any members of law enforcement. Just a fellow monger reporting an actual experience in a relatively small town. Be safe out there.

Aman200
03-14-19, 09:40
Stopped by and had a massage from Jen. Like others have said she will talk your ear off, I think she's just lonely so I didn't mind. The rest is just as others have said. Nice lady, safe place, strange cats.

LeftHand44
03-14-19, 10:39
Stopped by and had a massage from Jen. Like others have said she will talk your ear off, I think she's just lonely so I didn't mind. The rest is just as others have said. Nice lady, safe place, strange cats.She is nice and I would imagine staring at dudes bellybuttons all day would make anyone lonely.

Bench
03-14-19, 12:30
I just saw sexy Shelly recently in Clinton township. She is the true definition of butterface. Well I guess I can scratch that one off my list. Paid for an hour. That was a mistake. Should have just stick with the half. No massage whatsoever. Just straight to the dirty deed. She did some blowing on the tip thought she was going to go for it but instead just jerked me off. On the way out I noticed a pair of Jordan's had to be a size 12+. Dude was probably in the other room. Anyways she told she was available anytime. I will probably never repeat.Do you have contact information for her?

FunNights69
03-14-19, 18:55
Went and saw Jen at Saigon. Not sure if it was because she didn't know me or the recent heat in ferndale but couldn't get more than the standard HE. Massage was very good. Will probably stick with ebony or Tiffany.

FunNights69
03-14-19, 19:11
Went an saw Jen at Saigon today. Not sure if it was because she didn't know me or because of the heat in ferndale but couldn't get more than the standard HE. Massage for very good though. Will probably stick with Tiffany or ebony.

CarmeloJoe35
03-14-19, 20:28
Yes. Generally I do not post on forums like this. Avid follower, first time poster. I'm sure there are other folks on this forum that have a "normal" life out of the hobby. I wouldn't want anyone to get caught on the cross hairs. I used to go to AMPs in Troy but after the heat was on all the fun stopped in places I used to visit. For now I would highly stay away from Tiffany's and go to other haunts for fun. I am not affiliated with any members of law enforcement. Just a fellow monger reporting an actual experience in a relatively small town. Be safe out there.I tried calling a couple times. Both times it went straight to a voicemail box that has not been set up. I have searched the web. Nothing in the news. Is it really closed? Anyone been by there today?

Dabbler
03-14-19, 20:34
Was in Detroit today and made a quick decision to visit an AMP. I didn't have time to check this site. I pulled up Rub Maps and located one that made sense logistically. I'm not a member of RM so couldn't access the reviews. Pine Tree had a bunch so I went with them. Parked behind the place. After I'd parked and started to walk I figured out that I'd parked in the next door florist shop. Too late to move, so went on around. Worried the whole time I'd have the car towed.

The good news. Not familiar with the area at all but it seemed to be safe. Backs up to a middle class neighborhood. Shares a building with an insurance agency. They were closed when I got there. Place seemed fairly clean, no nasty smells. 60 half, 80 full. I chose the half and was still offered a TS. I wasn't expecting that due to the SS. Sauna before and after if you like that. 200 degrees, wasn't nasty smelling.

The not-so-good. Was met at the door by skinny Asian who was deep in her sixties. All business. Really wanted to bolt. Can't really explain why I stayed. The little head wasn't really involved at this point. I was ushered into a small room with a curtain across the opening. She told me to undress and left. Almost immediately another woman came in. Somewhat provocatively dressed. Early sixties. Poor English but that's par for the course. After the TS and back to the room, she said there was only time for a soft massage. Five minutes of that came the flip. All business. Only HJ offered but she could get nekky. I really didn't need that. She wanted to meet Benjamin. Offered 60. Accepted at lightspeed and was asked for immediately. Maybe more services are available but I was there for a SS and again, wasn't up for that. Very competent handy ensued. Afterward, she complimented me on my squirting prowess. Funny how they do that. Cleanup with hot towel, she helped me to dress and out I went. Car was still there!

So, safe, reliable, clean. If I lived in the area, I wouldn't repeat. Just too old.

DangleMan
03-14-19, 21:30
https://www.wxyz.com/news/ferndale-spa-under-investigation-for-human-trafficking

Averily
03-14-19, 21:39
One difference with Tiffany's place is that she doesn't have a stable of undocumented workers living on premises like many AMPs do.


Yes. Generally I do not post on forums like this. Avid follower, first time poster. I'm sure there are other folks on this forum that have a "normal" life out of the hobby. I wouldn't want anyone to get caught on the cross hairs. I used to go to AMPs in Troy but after the heat was on all the fun stopped in places I used to visit. For now I would highly stay away from Tiffany's and go to other haunts for fun. I am not affiliated with any members of law enforcement. Just a fellow monger reporting an actual experience in a relatively small town. Be safe out there.

Randy313
03-14-19, 22:24
https://www.wxyz.com/news/ferndale-spa-under-investigation-for-human-traffickingI didn't even know about the Clarkston location, no mention of it in the forums. On top of that they offered FS? WTF! There was no hint of that in Ferndale. Where are all the places for FS? Message me and who has Jen from Tiffany's place? Message that also.

Rogmaes
03-14-19, 22:29
One difference with Tiffany's place is that she doesn't have a stable of undocumented workers living on premises like many AMPs do.Tiffany is a very smart operator. Her crew is diverse and the premises are quite secure. Every door has a lock and a peep hole. All new rooms are situated away from the front entrance and access to the spa requires that you use the doorbell. Main door is under combination lock. Nothing can be heard from the front entrance or hallway. The other business has been at that location for some time now and I doubt it to be an observation post. I was there this week and I can only say that Tiffany is an experience you won't soon forget. Don't expect FS but the rest YMMV.

Rolling Stoner
03-15-19, 00:30
I didn't even know about the Clarkston location, no mention of it in the forums. On top of that they offered FS? WTF! There was no hint of that in Ferndale. Where are all the places for FS? Message me and who has Jen from Tiffany's place? Message that also.Clarkston place was discussed for years before closing. Solicitation for sex means HJ not FS. Places with FS guarantee in area are m1, dt, sunrise, magic. Jen has been discussed ad nauseum.

XirCom
03-15-19, 05:46
Do you have contact information for her?I believe this is the Shelly your looking for. I haven't seen her.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/shelly-escort-detroit-179#erotic.

XirCom
03-15-19, 05:49
She is nice and I would imagine staring at dudes bellybuttons all day would make anyone lonely.I concur, I've seen her many times and I don't mind her chatter.

Rogmaes
03-15-19, 08:21
Tiffany is a very smart operator. Her crew is diverse and the premises are quite secure. Every door has a lock and a peep hole. All new rooms are situated away from the front entrance and access to the spa requires that you use the doorbell. Main door is under combination lock. Nothing can be heard from the front entrance or hallway. The other business has been at that location for some time now and I doubt it to be an observation post. I was there this week and I can only say that Tiffany is an experience you won't soon forget. Don't expect FS but the rest YMMV.Just to clarify my statement, the focus for LEO is not Tiffany but on undocumented immigrants and human trafficking, as it should be.

RayLatoole
03-15-19, 08:26
I believe this is the Shelly your looking for. I haven't seen her.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/shelly-escort-detroit-179#erotic.The shellly referred to in the link is / was located in westland. She is nothing like that described in the review.

EricTheReddit
03-15-19, 08:32
https://www.wxyz.com/news/ferndale-spa-under-investigation-for-human-traffickingTrafficking has always been one reason I've stayed away from AMPs and other places.

My rationalization hamster works in weird ways but that's just me. No judgement on anyone else and what they like to do.

Averily
03-15-19, 09:08
We should be conscious of not propagating the bullshit that the media and authorities are peddling. I have never seen a case of "trafficking" in any AMP ever. That's if you think of trafficking in terms of unwilling participants in a sex trade with no will of their own. The workers are very active participants in their chosen trade.

Not saying you did this DangleMan, just urging people get perspective overall.


Trafficking has always been one reason I've stayed away from AMPs and other places.

My rationalization hamster works in weird ways but that's just me. No judgement on anyone else and what they like to do.

XirCom
03-15-19, 09:18
The shellly referred to in the link is / was located in westland. She is nothing like that described in the review.Sorry, my mistake.

NiceGuy000
03-15-19, 09:34
Do you have contact information for her?She advertises on skip the games almost daily, look under massages.

TrajeBlanco
03-15-19, 11:08
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I think you are full of shit and probably not a guy which is why I banned you.

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Fast69
03-15-19, 11:33
We should be conscious of not propagating the bullshit that the media and authorities are peddling. I have never seen a case of "trafficking" in any AMP ever. That's if you think of trafficking in terms of unwilling participants in a sex trade with no will of their own. The workers are very active participants in their chosen trade.

Not saying you did this DangleMan, just urging people get perspective overall.Years back I talked to some Asians at an AMP on different occasions. I got bits and pieces from each one. But what it all boiled down to was this. They got them here but it costs them $xx, xxx amount they have to payback. I honestly can't remember but I thought it was high like 30 k or 50 k. Plus room and board. They nickel and dime them making it hard for them to get it paid off.

PeteSchweddy
03-15-19, 11:37
I concur, I've seen her many times and I don't mind her chatter.I noticed on her FB page that she has had four brain surgeries. There may be much more going on than anyone knows about. Just a bit of perspective, I guess.

CarmeloJoe35
03-15-19, 12:08
Years back I talked to some Asians at an AMP on different occasions. I got bits and pieces from each one. But what it all boiled down to was this. They got them here but it costs them $xx, xxx amount they have to payback. I honestly can't remember but I thought it was high like 30 k or 50 k. Plus room and board. They nickel and dime them making it hard for them to get it paid off.This is consistent with what I have heard. Some have said they haven't seen their family in several years and while they try to put on a smiley face and look like willing participants, sometimes they have let out nonverbal ques that I later interpreted as sadness about being trapped. No doubt of of them are totally into it and actually like it. Also, I could have read into it way too much but either way, any place that traps these girls should be shut down. Call it indentured servitude or human traficking, I'm not so sure there is much of a practical difference. The girls in ferndale, however, are very much willing participants and can leave at any time. I dare say they often really enjoy their jobs.

Just my two cents.

Jd2011
03-15-19, 12:11
In all my years of mongering, in different areas, different genres (AMPs, SWers, escorts, etc), I have never seen anyone chained up and forced with a gun to their head to provide services. Anyone I have ever seen has had the ability to walk away and straight to authorities if she choose to do so. Even the ones that claimed to be trafficked. I'm sure their situations are difficult to get out of as Fast says. But anyone can CHOOSE to walk if they want. Trafficking as we know it in our corner of the world is bullshit. I'm sure this will draw outrage from some unfortunately.

JD.


Years back I talked to some Asians at an AMP on different occasions. I got bits and pieces from each one. But what it all boiled down to was this. They got them here but it costs them $xx, xxx amount they have to payback. I honestly can't remember but I thought it was high like 30 k or 50 k. Plus room and board. They nickel and dime them making it hard for them to get it paid off.

JohnCast719
03-15-19, 13:09
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I can't believe how many of you guys are buying this noecon/4th wave feminist rap.

Pay attention, look at all these busts after six months NONE OF THEM end up with trafficking convictions, NOBODY in Orlando has even been charged with trafficking. It's always about elections.

Google "Jupiter Florida Mayoral Election"

Every time, without fail, you see these headline grabbing "trafficking" busts there's an election going on.

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Averily
03-15-19, 13:29
That's one example. The many ones I know personally have come here on their own on a visitor or student visa. Then they stay and work. No loan payback, no indentured servitude. A young and smart girl could make 250 k a year cash. An average dumpy girl will make much less but still enough to send a relative fortune back home. They have their own community. They talk to each other. They have smartphones. They make choices. Don't believe the bullshit.

I'm talking about the regular AMP girls. I don't know about the FS places and I don't know about the escorts in the hotels and apartments.


Years back I talked to some Asians at an AMP on different occasions. I got bits and pieces from each one. But what it all boiled down to was this. They got them here but it costs them $xx, xxx amount they have to payback. I honestly can't remember but I thought it was high like 30 k or 50 k. Plus room and board. They nickel and dime them making it hard for them to get it paid off.

CarmeloJoe35
03-15-19, 13:39
That's one example. The many ones I know personally have come here on their own on a visitor or student visa. Then they stay and work. No loan payback, no indentured servitude. A young and smart girl could make 250 k a year cash. An average dumpy girl will make much less but still enough to send a relative fortune back home. They have their own community. They talk to each other. They have smartphones. They make choices. Don't believe the bullshit.

I'm talking about the regular AMP girls. I don't know about the FS places and I don't know about the escorts in the hotels and apartments.Given my status and the delayed posting, had I the ability to edit my previous post, I would. I tend to agree with Averily on this.

Wolverines66
03-15-19, 14:50
I was driving down Wixom, and at the corner of Wixom and West there was a parlor that I had never noticed before. I had a dream that night that I visited there. Standard. 7 cost for an hour with a. 4 h / e, but there was one notable thing: the beds were heated! Anyone else dream of that place? It had a generic name like "Massage".

Also, I hear M1 has a new girl who is a bit overweight, does anyone have a first name she goes by?So I decided to check this place out for the first time.

Accordion doors and curtains had me thinking this would not end well.

Good massage with nice teasing so I started thinking the ending could be good after all.

Sadly, not to be. She told me to diy which I flat out refuse to do. Tried to gently get her to do it, but she said she can't and commented on too much LEO out there. She offered to help so I asked how. She offered gentle massage on tummy and inner thighs. I again said no. She said sorry. Finished up the massage and again offered her help if I did it diy. No thanks.

But now I'm wondering. Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.

Anyone have a similar experience?

Thanks.

Joey King
03-15-19, 16:50
Do you have contact information for her?This is Shelly in Clinton Twp. Area.

https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/sexy-hott-and-ooh-soo-sweet/14270839

HappyFunBall
03-15-19, 23:25
So I decided to check this place out for the first time.

Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.

Anyone have a similar experience?

Thanks.I haven't gone there yet, but I was considering it. I might not bother now, given your report. At least not for a while.

I've been to Traditional Massage near there on Pontiac Trail near Beck once before and my experience was a much more positive one that I plan on repeating. The massage was okay, but the lass was friendly & conversational, mostly about the place that I usually go to (she knows the workers there), no DIY hassle, need for negotiation or anything like that. Paid the usual. 7/. 4 on the way out. This was in December, before the Kraft thing in Florida and the Relax busts.

Maybe Star Moon and others might be a bit spooked and are just being cautious with new faces.

Wally2822
03-16-19, 10:21
So I decided to check this place out for the first time.

Accordion doors and curtains had me thinking this would not end well.

Good massage with nice teasing so I started thinking the ending could be good after all.

Sadly, not to be. She told me to diy which I flat out refuse to do. Tried to gently get her to do it, but she said she can't and commented on too much LEO out there. She offered to help so I asked how. She offered gentle massage on tummy and inner thighs. I again said no. She said sorry. Finished up the massage and again offered her help if I did it diy. No thanks.

But now I'm wondering. Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.

Anyone have a similar experience?

Thanks.No sir you did the right move. I highly doubt anything else would've happened if you started the DIY. The 2nd time I ever went to a parlor several years back. Same thing happened to me. I started on the DIY. I felt stupid after I finished. I could've done that shit at home. And the rookie I was she asked for 40 tip and I gave it to her. I'm sure everyone has had different experiences but based on all the DIY's I've read on the forums. You def made the right call.

Sizzler7470
03-16-19, 17:59
So I decided to check this place out for the first time.

Accordion doors and curtains had me thinking this would not end well.

Good massage with nice teasing so I started thinking the ending could be good after all.

Sadly, not to be. She told me to diy which I flat out refuse to do. Tried to gently get her to do it, but she said she can't and commented on too much LEO out there. She offered to help so I asked how. She offered gentle massage on tummy and inner thighs. I again said no. She said sorry. Finished up the massage and again offered her help if I did it diy. No thanks.

But now I'm wondering. Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.

Anyone have a similar experience?

Thanks.Been there several times, standard H / E place. So what happened to you has happened to me before at other places over the years. So what I do to assure them I'm not L / E is when they are massaging me and are standing directly in front of my head I grab there ass with both of my hands and massage it. Then on the flip I make sure to grab the ass again and rub there tits if allowed. If they still say you do it yourself I just grab there hand and put it on my crotch then they smile and finish the job. Works every time.

PieBoy
03-17-19, 17:13
Anyone questioning whether there have been convictions can use this thing called google. Not sure how it works but if you enter 3 words, "sex trafficking convictions" it does not come up blank. DOJ data and everything.

Indeed, this is one of them. Three of the guys who were arrested and described as rapists and human traffickers during the Bellvue bust two years ago.

https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/3-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-johns-suing-king-county

I think a few of you guys have issues with what you do and need it to be much more sordid than it is. It reminds me of something this hooker told me once "I was surprised to find out that a lot of the guys who came to see me wanted to feel bad about what they were doing."

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MagnifiRod
03-17-19, 22:03
Just in case anyone cares, Longevity at 14 & Haggerty has been closed for some time now. Saw the boss today doing some work cleaning up or renovating maybe. I didn't have the chance to go ask him.

Fast69
03-18-19, 08:47
I saw one review on pure time. Anyone been there this year? Pm if need be.

Averily
03-18-19, 11:38
That prostitute quote was brilliant.

People should read that link from the Patch. Great insight into how politics enters into this game.

If we sigh when the general public are so easily misled about trafficking and "saving" these women then what are we to think of hobbyists who propagate the same bullshit?


Anyone questioning whether there have been convictions can use this thing called google. Not sure how it works but if you enter 3 words, "sex trafficking convictions" it does not come up blank. DOJ data and everything.

Indeed, this is one of them. Three of the guys who were arrested and described as rapists and human traffickers during the Bellvue bust two years ago.

https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/3-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-johns-suing-king-county

I think a few of you guys have issues with what you do and need it to be much more sordid than it is. It reminds me of something this hooker told me once "I was surprised to find out that a lot of the guys who came to see me wanted to feel bad about what they were doing."

A2

Islander0424
03-18-19, 13:21
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?

Bzerkley
03-18-19, 15:43
What was the name and location of the renovated AMP either in Warren or Sterling Heights. I can't seem to find it in the thread. Any good reviews?

Anon2854
03-18-19, 17:55
Has anyone tried out MH Massage in Southfield? It's been there about a year and I've never seen it mentioned.

Esctol6
03-18-19, 18:56
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?I've never noticed that with her, I've always enjoyed the experience with her. She does talk a lot but she is a very nice person and makes up for it with a very happy massage.

Mmis90
03-18-19, 20:50
What was the name and location of the renovated AMP either in Warren or Sterling Heights. I can't seem to find it in the thread. Any good reviews?Not sure what happened, but it's been closed for a few weeks now.

Mmis90
03-18-19, 20:51
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?Yes, never really smelled anything, but I've heard it. Not sure if queef or not.

Anon2854
03-18-19, 21:41
My technique is throw down whatever you are willing to pay in total up front on the table when getting undressed and bring no more in. You run the risk of not getting what you want or overpaying for HE but it sends a really clear signal. I got FS with Katie at SS for $. 1. Honestly not even my intention and I didn't even ask for it. It just happened. Stupidly and regretfully in the heat of the moment it was BB. Major regret.

Sleeve
03-18-19, 22:09
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?Yes, it has lessened my desire to rebook with her.

WinterKnight
03-18-19, 22:43
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?Thank you for helping me cement my decision never to visit an AMP. You say you have paid for farting massages for two years?

HappyFunBall
03-18-19, 23:49
Maybe Star Moon and others might be a bit spooked and are just being cautious with new faces.That's probably all it is. I stopped at my usual place on Saturday and got the same great massage, etc. I usually get. If it's your first time at a place, expect that "YMMV" is definitely going to apply to you.

Randy313
03-19-19, 05:55
Has anyone tried out MH Massage in Southfield? It's been there about a year and I've never seen it mentioned.There's a reason why you haven't seen MH Massage mentioned. It's a "legit" massage. I say "legit" because they are not certified. If you pay for a hhr they MIGHT tease you and say get a longer one next time. After you come back and pay for an hr they say "We no do that here. ".

Randy313
03-19-19, 06:05
My technique is throw down whatever you are willing to pay in total up front on the table when getting undressed and bring no more in. You run the risk of not getting what you want or overpaying for HE but it sends a really clear signal. I got FS with Katie at SS for $. 1. Honestly not even my intention and I didn't even ask for it. It just happened. Stupidly and regretfully in the heat of the moment it was BB. Major regret.Whoa! You BB Katie? I'm extremely familiar with her and you are down and out for awhile. Trust me make sure you see your physician within the next 6 mos. Don't bang anybody until after that. Unless she cleared it up from a few years ago but I doubt it.

Randy313
03-19-19, 06:10
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?Aw hell naw!

But at $.5 for what she does I knew there had to be a catch.

Aman200
03-19-19, 07:46
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?Not to my knowledge but that may open up a new market for her from some of you kinky fucks LOL.

TwistedBrother
03-19-19, 08:50
I've never noticed that with her, I've always enjoyed the experience with her. She does talk a lot but she is a very nice person and makes up for it with a very happy massage.What's funny is she probably talks a lot to mask the sound of her farting. She thinks you don't hear it, but you really do. If you hear it and happen to catch her eye just right, you can exchange a knowing glance without words having to be said. Then it's like your little secret and then, because you're keeping her little secret (and not exposing her habit, which some would find disgusting), she might ("might") give you even better service. I mean, that's what I would do.

ShvdSchtick
03-19-19, 12:15
I love the tease it gets me so worked up and I like a little assplay. Any recommendations?

Randy313
03-19-19, 13:29
I love the tease it gets me so worked up and I like a little assplay. Any recommendations?I swear to you the tease is what drives me crazy. Hell I can do that for 30 minutes alone. I love that shit!

One Care (when Judy was there).

Famous. But she went further and lubed up her finger and fingered my asshole deep while giving me an oily handshake. I made one hell of a cummy mess.

Relax (Ferndale) no closed did the same thing those are the only places I know that will take it a step further beyond the tease if you say so on the flip.

Wally2822
03-19-19, 14:24
What's funny is she probably talks a lot to mask the sound of her farting. She thinks you don't hear it, but you really do. If you hear it and happen to catch her eye just right, you can exchange a knowing glance without words having to be said. Then it's like your little secret and then, because you're keeping her little secret (and not exposing her habit, which some would find disgusting), she might ("might") give you even better service. I mean, that's what I would do.LMAO! Bro that is hands down one of the funniest posts I've ever read. I have luckily never experienced that with her. Or at least I don't think I did!

BigMac55
03-19-19, 18:08
Thank you for helping me cement my decision never to visit an AMP. You say you have paid for farting massages for two years?Except Jen / Massage Breeze is not an AMP, she's not Asian and it's not a Massage Parlor. She's white and works out of her home.

MichiganDetroi
03-19-19, 19:07
Anyone questioning whether there have been convictions can use this thing called google. Not sure how it works but if you enter 3 words, "sex trafficking convictions" it does not come up blank. DOJ data and everything.

Indeed, this is one of them. Three of the guys who were arrested and described as rapists and human traffickers during the Bellvue bust two years ago.

https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/3-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-johns-suing-king-county

I think a few of you guys have issues with what you do and need it to be much more sordid than it is. It reminds me of something this hooker told me once "I was surprised to find out that a lot of the guys who came to see me wanted to feel bad about what they were doing."

A2Before I ever commented on this forum, I read back many many pages, and one of the most consistent observations by all the commenters was that women who work at AMP's are 90% over the age of 40, and 10% over the age of 30. If there is "sex trafficking" of young women, it's not happening in Michigan. The women who work at the AMP's here are not being forced to do it at all.

The news media makes it seem like AMP workers are underage teenagers, and that is a bold face misrepresentation of the truth. The only AMP I frequented where I ever met two girls who were both 21, was one on roch road a couple years ago and it closed down fast.

I do know that at a few of the places, the women sleep at the AMP, but not because they are forced to, but because they literally stay here for their 30 day shift, save all their money, and then go back to their houses / apartments back in NY where they don't work for a few months. They've told me this and explained the process extensively. In other countries, sleeping at the business is normal, because many small businesses are at peoples houses, but in America this is looked down on, so the people running the business should wise up and rent a house separate from the AMP.

If I ever saw an underage girl or a young woman who in any way looked like she was being held hostage to work at a massage parlor, I'd call the police myself! But like I said, at least here in Michigan, I don't believe it occurs.

MichiganMan686
03-19-19, 19:18
LMAO! Bro that is hands down one of the funniest posts I've ever read. I have luckily never experienced that with her. Or at least I don't think I did!That is funny for sure. One time I was getting massaged and had to fart. I held it till it hurt. I was like one more push by her and you guessed it. I fuckin parted her hair.

FunNights69
03-19-19, 21:37
Was in Rochester and thought I'd stop by eastern massage after striking out on st patty's day. Nothing has changed lots of teasing then on the flip rubbed my balls for DIY. Tipped 20 and left.

NeilYoung999
03-20-19, 06:20
Yesterday on Dave and Chuck the freak they were talking about AMP and someone called in and spoke about getting happy endings at a place on the Troy- Clawson border. I wonder what place they were talking about. Anyone been there, any good? LOL.

Jd2011
03-20-19, 10:41
LMFAO. Way to work the situation in your favor man!


What's funny is she probably talks a lot to mask the sound of her farting. She thinks you don't hear it, but you really do. If you hear it and happen to catch her eye just right, you can exchange a knowing glance without words having to be said. Then it's like your little secret and then, because you're keeping her little secret (and not exposing her habit, which some would find disgusting), she might ("might") give you even better service. I mean, that's what I would do.

ContinentalMan
03-20-19, 15:29
Anyone seen Jen at Saigon since she been back? PM me with details if you have.

FunNights69
03-20-19, 16:14
Visited the hidden AMP on Southfield road in Lathrup. Girl was younger and much better looking than average AMP girl. Massage was decent on the flip paid 1 Benjamin for a lackluster BBBJ and wasn't allowed to finish in mouth. Would probably just go for the standard HE next time.

Islander0424
03-20-19, 18:18
Thank you for helping me cement my decision never to visit an AMP. You say you have paid for farting massages for two years?I thought I was tripping at first, I honestly thought it was the massage table. But she recently started doing it.

Randy313
03-20-19, 18:25
Yesterday on Dave and Chuck the freak they were talking about AMP and someone called in and spoke about getting happy endings at a place on the Troy- Clawson border. I wonder what place they were talking about. Anyone been there, any good? LOL.WTF! C'Mon. Man it's already hot out and some fool actually gave up the location live on the air? There's only one spot and I go often and since he did that I feel sorry for you newbies because they might say DIY. It took me 3 visits last year now I get it no hesitation no discussion. Jackass. He just invited the police to come in.

DragonSnake
03-20-19, 22:19
There's a reason why you haven't seen MH Massage mentioned. It's a "legit" massage. I say "legit" because they are not certified. If you pay for a hhr they MIGHT tease you and say get a longer one next time. After you come back and pay for an hr they say "We no do that here. ".But do you get a solid massage, or is crappy. DS.

Dennerb
03-21-19, 07:36
Before I ever commented on this forum, I read back many many pages, and one of the most consistent observations by all the commenters was that women who work at AMP's are 90% over the age of 40, and 10% over the age of 30. If there is "sex trafficking" of young women, it's not happening in Michigan. The women who work at the AMP's here are not being forced to do it at all.

The news media makes it seem like AMP workers are underage teenagers, and that is a bold face misrepresentation of the truth. The only AMP I frequented where I ever met two girls who were both 21, was one on roch road a couple years ago and it closed down fast.

I do know that at a few of the places, the women sleep at the AMP, but not because they are forced to, but because they literally stay here for their 30 day shift, save all their money, and then go back to their houses / apartments back in NY where they don't work for a few months. They've told me this and explained the process extensively. In other countries, sleeping at the business is normal, because many small businesses are at peoples houses, but in America this is looked down on, so the people running the business should wise up and rent a house separate from the AMP.

If I ever saw an underage girl or a young woman who in any way looked like she was being held hostage to work at a massage parlor, I'd call the police myself! But like I said, at least here in Michigan, I don't believe it occurs.A couple years ago I was in Jacksonville at an AMP and met a nice woman at the AMP from Michigan who was in FL vacationing and earning some money. Lived around Clarkston and had done the AMP scene there but felt more comfortable out of her home area we talked about the Michigan scene (the Islands, Bay City, M1. She was late forties but showed me a good time. IN my mind I see an upper middle class woman earning some $$$ for shoes, purses and maybe socking away money for kid's college education. No HT involved here.

Fast69
03-21-19, 07:50
WTF! C'Mon. Man it's already hot out and some fool actually gave up the location live on the air? There's only one spot and I go often and since he did that I feel sorry for you newbies because they might say DIY. It took me 3 visits last year now I get it no hesitation no discussion. Jackass. He just invited the police to come in.Yeah, the dumbass that wanted his 15 seconds of fame wasn't thinking. He could of just said he recently had a nice experience and left it at that. No location.

People post shit on here as well and anyone can read it. You don't think le reads our board?

Make it legal. I've said it time and time again. Require a license (state income) testing and tax them. I bet half the politicians already use them. LOL just my 2 cents.

Teebo
03-21-19, 08:44
I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?I always wondered about the name, "Massage Breeze"; like why she chose that. I would wonder "where does the breeze come from? Now I know.

Maul1710
03-21-19, 09:02
Anyone seen Jen at Saigon since she been back? PM me with details if you have.Saw her yesterday. Not sure what the hype is about, looks wise I thought she was homely. My first visit to Saigon and might be the last. Offered standard finish but I declined.

NeilYoung999
03-21-19, 12:36
Yeah, the dumbass that wanted his 15 seconds of fame wasn't thinking. He could of just said he recently had a nice experience and left it at that. No location.

People post shit on here as well and anyone can read it. You don't think le reads our board?

Make it legal. I've said it time and time again. Require a license (state income) testing and tax them. I bet half the politicians already use them. LOL just my 2 cents.It was a woman, she said her and a couple gf's came in for legit massages and were all offered happy endings.

DatFigga55
03-21-19, 14:13
Yeah, the dumbass that wanted his 15 seconds of fame wasn't thinking. He could of just said he recently had a nice experience and left it at that. No location.

People post shit on here as well and anyone can read it. You don't think le reads our board?

Make it legal. I've said it time and time again. Require a license (state income) testing and tax them. I bet half the politicians already use them. LOL just my 2 cents.They will never legalize it because the marriage rate will pommel. Why get married when you can get your rocks off legally.

BigJohnnyWad
03-21-19, 14:23
Anyone ever see the gilf on the east side goes by joyce? Been a few years wondered if she was still around?

Devin226
03-21-19, 14:40
They will never legalize it because the marriage rate will pommel. Why get married when you can get your rocks off legally.Exactly. Feminists would never want legalized prostitution. Women would lose their value and have no control in their relationships. No longer could they sit around, be lazy, and get fat. They would actually have to be fun and start doing BJ's to keep a man around. It would be like the 1960's when women actually had to try. You wouldn't have so many lazy entitled women -- because men would never put up with any woman's BS because we wouldn't have to. Why take a woman on 3 dates, trying to wine and dine her and impress an entitled **** when you could simply go somewhere and have legal fun with a smoking hot 19 year old, then go home and sleep with no drama? If it were ever legalized, the tables would be turned. Men would re-gain control and stop being huge pussies. I don't think it will happen in our generation.

Tommy101
03-21-19, 15:18
They will never legalize it because the marriage rate will pommel. Why get married when you can get your rocks off legally.I never got married just to get my rocks off legaly. I married my first because she was the love of my life or so I thought at 20 years old. My second I married for tax purposes and she did my laundry and was a good cook and pretty great in the sack. Too bad she wanted me to be monogamous.

LameelCono
03-21-19, 15:35
Saw her yesterday. Not sure what the hype is about, looks wise I thought she was homely. My first visit to Saigon and might be the last. Offered standard finish but I declined.The Jen I saw recently is frumpy and very plain. The one I saw briefly months ago was stylish and had long hair. She went to Vietnam. I know Tiffany well and it wasn't her. I suspect it's different lady same name.

Randy313
03-21-19, 17:27
The Jen I saw recently is frumpy and very plain. The one I saw briefly months ago was stylish and had long hair. She went to Vietnam. I know Tiffany well and it wasn't her. I suspect it's different lady same name.The REAL Jen in Ferndale is a bit on the heavier side however not sloppy but put together well she also has a tattoo and the times I have seen her she is always in a pull over dress (quicker access). You're saying there's another Jen? If that's the case I am definitely not going back.

Hemingwayy
03-21-19, 20:12
Exactly. Feminists would never want legalized prostitution. Women would lose their value and have no control in their relationships. No longer could they sit around, be lazy, and get fat. They would actually have to be fun and start doing BJ's to keep a man around. It would be like the 1960's when women actually had to try. You wouldn't have so many lazy entitled women -- because men would never put up with any woman's BS because we wouldn't have to. Why take a woman on 3 dates, trying to wine and dine her and impress an entitled **** when you could simply go somewhere and have legal fun with a smoking hot 19 year old, then go home and sleep with no drama? If it were ever legalized, the tables would be turned. Men would re-gain control and stop being huge pussies. I don't think it will happen in our generation.I also don't think it will be legalized in the near future. The Pharisees (religious right) will never vote for it even though we they are some of the most regular customers. They have to maintain their fake 'holier than thou' appearance. I don't think it would have any effect on the value of women or give men any more power over their spouse. It would still be done secretly without one's significant others knowlege.

JoeTruck
03-21-19, 20:33
Went to check out the new acu on mound went there twice and both times it was closed. That was short lived.

MrPipes3006
03-21-19, 22:18
I never got married just to get my rocks off legaly. I married my first because she was the love of my life or so I thought at 20 years old. My second I married for tax purposes and she did my laundry and was a good cook and pretty great in the sack. Too bad she wanted me to be monogamous.Haha to funny.

Jokester1
03-22-19, 06:55
I also don't think it will be legalized in the near future. The Pharisees (religious right) will never vote for it even though we they are some of the most regular customers. They have to maintain their fake 'holier than thou' appearance. I don't think it would have any effect on the value of women or give men any more power over their spouse. It would still be done secretly without one's significant others knowlege.I red extracts from a study a while back that stated the highest rate of hits per capita on porn web sites are from users in Utah and the Bible Belt.

Maul1710
03-22-19, 12:36
The REAL Jen in Ferndale is a bit on the heavier side however not sloppy but put together well she also has a tattoo and the times I have seen her she is always in a pull over dress (quicker access). You're saying there's another Jen? If that's the case I am definitely not going back.Jen I saw was in a pull over dress as well. Wouldn't call her obese but I would say chubby and unattractive. Someone who wouldn't even get a glance from me on the street.

TheDean12
03-22-19, 14:46
Jen I saw was in a pull over dress as well. Wouldn't call her obese but I would say chubby and unattractive. Someone who wouldn't even get a glance from me on the street.So I tried to look up the place in Ferndale where this Jen is at and all I came up with is a Nail Salon. Is that the same place that does massages as well? It's called Saigon Nail Salon.

Ozma86
03-22-19, 15:02
I've seen tons of bad reviews for AMPs here does someone have a good place for a first timer to visit.

Randy313
03-22-19, 20:15
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Randy313
03-22-19, 20:19
Jen I saw was in a pull over dress as well. Wouldn't call her obese but I would say chubby and unattractive. Someone who wouldn't even get a glance from me on the street.I agree with you on that, however with the exception of Judy formerly at the hidden AMP and Tiffany in Ferndale a lot of these women at the AMP's we wouldn't give the time of day too I just can't deal with pancake booty's like how the fuck are your back pockets touching on your blue jeans?

HappyFunBall
03-22-19, 22:58
It was a woman, she said her and a couple gf's came in for legit massages and were all offered happy endings.Well, the location for that would have been useful information right up until it was blurted all over a popular radio show. My gf is bi and she'd have been down with that offer.

Averily
03-22-19, 23:20
I've seen tons of bad reviews for AMPs here does someone have a good place for a first timer to visit.Just go to one and report back.

Detroit123
03-23-19, 08:07
I've seen tons of bad reviews for AMPs here does someone have a good place for a first timer to visit.If your anywhere near the east side, I would try Bella Touch on 10 Mile and Gratiot in Eastpointe.

RWhite
03-23-19, 10:49
Just go to one and report back.What's up why'all long time monger first time poster. Had no clue there were Asian massage parlors here like back home in Florida. All of them in Tampa are FS and gorgeous. Any FS here? I am in Royal Oak doesn't matter the distance I will drive. I'm suppose to drive out to see the infamous Miki any recommendations message me.

RWhite
03-23-19, 11:11
I am thinking about going there how is it?

MichiganDetroi
03-23-19, 13:29
This is a bit late on the 9 mile location that was closed two weeks ago in a LEO raid, but thought I'd add my two cents for future places; the first time I went there two summers ago, it started off standard procedure, massage was not good at all, then after she came back in with hot towels and cleaned the oil off me, with absolutely no conversation BTW her and I about any extras, money or anything, she completely undressed and started rubbing her tits against me. I thought it was odd, because there was no pretense whatsoever of determining whether I was LEO or not. I went back one more time about six months later, the massage was still bad, and while the 2nd woman wasn't as forward as the first, she was still way too cavalier for being in such a highly visible area in ferndale. I never went back because I thought this place was surely going to get raided. So whenever I've gone to AMP's I'm always cautious when they are too overt with new customers that they don't know at all.

On a side note; AMP's that are well documented here as never giving extras, will eventually give extras, but you have to be a very long term customer; I went to one place, once a week for a year and half, because they gave an awesome massage, and it is an AMP where female customers go frequently, and suddenly one day, the woman offered an extra at the end of the massage.

MichiganDetroi
03-23-19, 13:39
Forgot to post this over the winter; stopped by this place shortly before Christmas. It was $7 at the door, greeted by a late 50-early 60 yr old, was hoping she was just the mamasan wearing a nicer dress than a typical mamasan, but after the table shower she gave me, quickly apparent she was going to be the provider, pretended I needed to use the bathroom to see if there were any younger women there, but only another late 50 yr old - 60 year old was there. After I came back to room, old lady asked what I wanted and I said just a massage and she laughed at me. She wanted to do FS, I didn't want to with someone my mom's age, plus she wanted $$ which made the whole thing even more silly. Finally I said I was going, got dressed and left. Basically paid $7 for a table shower, but left with my dignity in tack.

FunNights69
03-23-19, 14:55
Anyone have any info on this one? See it all the time. https://detroit.rubratings.com/120715.

RandyHot
03-23-19, 14:59
What was the name and location of the renovated AMP either in Warren or Sterling Heights. I can't seem to find it in the thread. Any good reviews?Asian art spa.

RWhite
03-24-19, 12:43
Are there any places in the area I can get a wax and HJ?

StalkOfLife
03-24-19, 17:18
Was this Magic? Famous for expensive grannies. Next to the pot shop?


Forgot to post this over the winter; stopped by this place shortly before Christmas. It was $7 at the door, greeted by a late 50-early 60 yr old, was hoping she was just the mamasan wearing a nicer dress than a typical mamasan, but after the table shower she gave me, quickly apparent she was going to be the provider, pretended I needed to use the bathroom to see if there were any younger women there, but only another late 50 yr old - 60 year old was there. After I came back to room, old lady asked what I wanted and I said just a massage and she laughed at me. She wanted to do FS, I didn't want to with someone my mom's age, plus she wanted $$ which made the whole thing even more silly. Finally I said I was going, got dressed and left. Basically paid $7 for a table shower, but left with my dignity in tack.

ILoveRedheads
03-24-19, 18:19
I am thinking about going there how is it?La mirage is disappointing. They had 1 cute skinny girl there, 1 chunky, and an old lady at the front desk answering phones. I got the cute skinny girl. She stripped down to bikini but that was it. No touching or extras of any kind and damage was 140.

Rolling Stoner
03-24-19, 20:48
Was this Magic? Famous for expensive grannies. Next to the pot shop?No.

Sunny (coolidge) is next to pot shop. Only HJ last two years. Sonia and majic are at lahser. Majic FS. Sonia has on ocassion been FS, but they get fired. Hes talking about sonia (8 mile and lahser).

Rolling Stoner
03-24-19, 20:50
Asian art spa.No. Accupressure.

MassageMe4
03-25-19, 02:08
Where the heck are the Dirty Asian grannies that have no limits? I can't find them for crap any more? What the heck? Anyone have a life line?

Fast69
03-25-19, 08:21
Does anyone remember the old oasis spa on van dyke near 10 mi? Years later a guy moved in there and made it pretty nice. He got busted for offering and undercover LE extras. I use to see a couple of those girls on the side after that but lost their numbers over time. Some danced and some kept doing massages at notels. Any info would be great, comments are welcomed as well. It was a great place!

Megatron81
03-25-19, 09:33
On Dave and chuck this morning they were talking about Saigon because someone sent in an email saying her husbands business is above the spa and they have been seeing an increased number of guys coming in later at night since they moved upstairs and this person is concerned because she thinks something is going on. It seems since they expanded and with all the media coverage about spas people are more alert.

BattMann
03-25-19, 10:32
I thought Dave and Chuck were supposed to be funny. I for one, am not finding all this extra attention funny at all.


On Dave and chuck this morning they were talking about Saigon because someone sent in an email saying her husbands business is above the spa and they have been seeing an increased number of guys coming in later at night since they moved upstairs and this person is concerned because she thinks something is going on. It seems since they expanded and with all the media coverage about spas people are more alert.

Love The Lips
03-25-19, 10:59
Does anyone remember the old oasis spa on van dyke near 10 mi? Years later a guy moved in there and made it pretty nice. He got busted for offering and undercover LE extras. I use to see a couple of those girls on the side after that but lost their numbers over time. Some danced and some kept doing massages at notels. Any info would be great, comments are welcomed as well. It was a great place!I remember Oasis, that's going way back! I went a few times. It's also been widely reported that Eminem's ex Kim Mathers worked there in her younger years.

Bvretr69
03-25-19, 13:05
I thought Dave and Chuck were supposed to be funny. I for one, am not finding all this extra attention funny at all.Agreed this type of attention isn't humorous and usually doesn't end well either. Hopefully someone can get proper notice to Saigon before it goes south.

Questar999
03-25-19, 13:15
I remember Oasis, that's going way back! I went a few times. It's also been widely reported that Eminem's ex Kim Mathers worked there in her younger years.Yes, She did work there. I remember a quite a few handy's from her. Bring back the good old days.

RWhite
03-25-19, 13:40
On Dave and chuck this morning they were talking about Saigon because someone sent in an email saying her husbands business is above the spa and they have been seeing an increased number of guys coming in later at night since they moved upstairs and this person is concerned because she thinks something is going on. It seems since they expanded and with all the media coverage about spas people are more alert.Why? Didn't somebody else jump on the radio awhile back and say something about another AMP? I was extremely concerned about that upstairs move. Yes it was awkward seeing kids around and sitting on that dam couch but it was in and out and now we got to walk in right next door to a business? After the relax bust people in that city are on the look out and Tiffany's place is centrally located. Park in rear when and dip out on the freeway when done. If they shut her done there won't be another FS AMP in all of Oakland County.

RWhite
03-25-19, 13:45
On Dave and chuck this morning they were talking about Saigon because someone sent in an email saying her husbands business is above the spa and they have been seeing an increased number of guys coming in later at night since they moved upstairs and this person is concerned because she thinks something is going on. It seems since they expanded and with all the media coverage about spas people are more alert.I already submitted my last post before I could add to it, but instead of relocating it upstairs I think she should've flipped it. Left the massage down stairs closer to the door and moved the beauty spa shop upstairs. It's only a matter of time my fellow mongers. Please be careful last thing you want is to be caught in the middle of Doggy style right at climax when the door is kicked in.

Chipewa
03-25-19, 15:49
Anyone have any info on this one? See it all the time. https://detroit.rubratings.com/120715..

TWood
03-25-19, 16:50
Does anyone remember the old oasis spa on van dyke near 10 mi? Years later a guy moved in there and made it pretty nice. He got busted for offering and undercover LE extras. I use to see a couple of those girls on the side after that but lost their numbers over time. Some danced and some kept doing massages at notels. Any info would be great, comments are welcomed as well. It was a great place!That's going back in time to date myself. Vivian who provides massages at her condo home (in Roseville or Warren) used to work at Oasis. I also remember Paige from the Oasis as well. Not sure if Paige is still in the massage biz or not.

Buckeye1257
03-25-19, 17:30
Does anyone have any information on LaMirage Spa in Garden City?

YoungAndFun007
03-25-19, 21:51
I already submitted my last post before I could add to it, but instead of relocating it upstairs I think she should've flipped it. Left the massage down stairs closer to the door and moved the beauty spa shop upstairs. It's only a matter of time my fellow mongers. Please be careful last thing you want is to be caught in the middle of Doggy style right at climax when the door is kicked in.How much is this place and how does payment work compared to M1?

MassageMe4
03-25-19, 22:38
Brandy is over 50, stocky, short and not worth your money.Wasn't there some game she played? What was her story anyone remember? Was it upsell and DIY or she has favorites? I can't really remember but there is something I can't put my finger on.

Questar999
03-25-19, 22:52
I remember Oasis, that's going way back! I went a few times. It's also been widely reported that Eminem's ex Kim Mathers worked there in her younger years.And so did Tawney Dream!

RWhite
03-25-19, 23:50
Does anyone have any information on LaMirage Spa in Garden City?Don't do it. By the time the admin approved the post answer to my question about La Mirage it was too late.

Mirage is just that. A mirage. They tried to get me for $$ and no FS no HJ no nothing just topless or pastie and no touching. WTF is topless going to do for me when I'm face down on the table? Don't do it.

RWhite
03-25-19, 23:52
How much is this place and how does payment work compared to M1?Put $100 on the table in the room or $160 for a hr stay and enjoy they already know what to do but bring a rubber especially with Katie.

Rolling Stoner
03-26-19, 05:55
Does anyone have any information on LaMirage Spa in Garden City?See #13114.

Buckeye1257
03-26-19, 07:30
See #13114.Thanks. It didn't show in my search, but clearly should have scrolled down a bit.

Good info; I guess that clears my afternoon to do something else.

KamiTenchi
03-26-19, 09:31
Anyone have any numbers for aamps (preferably older women) that they would be willing to share with me? I've been all over the ad sites I just can't find them anymore.

RaviFrequent
03-26-19, 10:25
I'm interested in milking table massage and wondering if there are any good recommendations which are provided at private locations by good providers.

Questar999
03-26-19, 13:55
And so did Tawney Dream!I got confused. Tawney wasn't at Oasis. I believe she was at the place just west of Ann Arbor. I can't remember the name of that place.

Etj4588
03-26-19, 14:33
And so did Tawney Dream!Whatever happened to Tawney? She was awesome back on the old boards.

EroticLover
03-26-19, 16:23
Whatever happened to Tawney? She was awesome back on the old boards.There is another Tawney Dream based in Detroit that is recently well reviewed on erotic monkey. That must be a different one then?

Bench
03-26-19, 17:30
There is another Tawney Dream based in Detroit that is recently well reviewed on erotic monkey. That must be a different one then?It is the same one. She is still working.

YoungAndFun007
03-26-19, 18:19
Put $100 on the table in the room or $160 for a hr stay and enjoy they already know what to do but bring a rubber especially with Katie.Have gone to m1 a few time and always enjoyed myself. If reading correctly at saigon depending who you get you could end up just a HJ. ? Have to pick 1 tomorrow any thoughts which is better.

Kramer711
03-26-19, 19:49
Has anyone seen Abby lately? She provided full service massage in Garden City out of a safe location and was always a decent time. She had rock hard bolt ons and had to get them replaced. She use to advertise on backpage, not sure where or if she posts now?

Softailrider
03-26-19, 21:08
Does anyone remember the old oasis spa on van dyke near 10 mi? Years later a guy moved in there and made it pretty nice. He got busted for offering and undercover LE extras. I use to see a couple of those girls on the side after that but lost their numbers over time. Some danced and some kept doing massages at notels. Any info would be great, comments are welcomed as well. It was a great place!That was a long time ago, you're talking 20 years, at least. Maybe closer to 30.

Paul Wall
03-27-19, 07:38
And so did Tawney Dream!Does anyone remember Sue from Oasis? She may have used the name Blair Summers. I've still see her.

Fast69
03-27-19, 07:40
That was a long time ago, you're talking 20 years, at least. Maybe closer to 30.This is who was in there after oasis. The guy went by Jack. There were some good looking girls here. Payton is one name that stands out. But a couple were strippers as well. You actually got a good massage here. Place was clean and professional like.

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/center-line-shop-was-front-for-prostitution-police-say/article_ffa858c3-54bf-5ce9-b9e0-7d5cdd2bc2f7.htm

Cecil0042
03-27-19, 08:06
This is who was in there after oasis. The guy went by Jack. There were some good looking girls here. Payton is one name that stands out. But a couple were strippers as well. You actually got a good massage here. Place was clean and professional like.

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/center-line-shop-was-front-for-prostitution-police-say/article_ffa858c3-54bf-5ce9-b9e0-7d5cdd2bc2f7.htm"Warren and Center Line officers swooped in. " oh, give me a fucking break. It's like some kind of national crisis. Isn't it illegal now for police to engage in the illegal act that they are arresting people for?

Joey King
03-27-19, 08:17
I found this ad and I am not able to find any info locally, only down south ads. Does anyone know anything about this one?

https://detroit.rubratings.com/140914

Moonglow913
03-27-19, 08:18
This is who was in there after oasis. The guy went by Jack. There were some good looking girls here. Payton is one name that stands out. But a couple were strippers as well. You actually got a good massage here. Place was clean and professional like.

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/center-line-shop-was-front-for-prostitution-police-say/article_ffa858c3-54bf-5ce9-b9e0-7d5cdd2bc2f7.htmAs an earlier post stated this place has to go back 30 years (before the internet). Some hot providers worked there. Speaking of Jack, wasn't this the guy that put together a nice collection of MP later and advertised on the old boards (don't remember the name he went under)? And speaking of Tawney Dream, yes she is still around. I think you can find her on Eros.

Fast69
03-27-19, 10:32
As an earlier post stated this place has to go back 30 years (before the internet). Some hot providers worked there. Speaking of Jack, wasn't this the guy that put together a nice collection of MP later and advertised on the old boards (don't remember the name he went under)? And speaking of Tawney Dream, yes she is still around. I think you can find her on Eros.He went by Jack Winters. If you read the paper they tell you his real name. The girls use to tell me when he did duos with a female masseuse to a male client he would fight them to suck a dick. LOL. He was married with kids. I was like, no thanks. But I heard he taught all the girls how to do a massage. They had that part down. To bad they got shut down. This was the same building as oasis but only 7 years ago. You entered from the back parking lot.

RobSquad
03-27-19, 10:42
This is a bit late on the 9 mile location that was closed two weeks ago in a LEO raid, but thought I'd add my two cents for future places; the first time I went there two summers ago, it started off standard procedure, massage was not good at all, then after she came back in with hot towels and cleaned the oil off me, with absolutely no conversation BTW her and I about any extras, money or anything, she completely undressed and started rubbing her tits against me. I thought it was odd, because there was no pretense whatsoever of determining whether I was LEO or not. I went back one more time about six months later, the massage was still bad, and while the 2nd woman wasn't as forward as the first, she was still way too cavalier for being in such a highly visible area in ferndale. I never went back because I thought this place was surely going to get raided. So whenever I've gone to AMP's I'm always cautious when they are too overt with new customers that they don't know at all.

On a side note; AMP's that are well documented here as never giving extras, will eventually give extras, but you have to be a very long term customer; I went to one place, once a week for a year and half, because they gave an awesome massage, and it is an AMP where female customers go frequently, and suddenly one day, the woman offered an extra at the end of the massage.I went around winter 2017 and around the same thing happening once I started to get erect she finished me off but I knew it was only a matter of time until they slipped up.

Be safe out here and THINK WITH THE BIG HEAD.

JohnQP313
03-27-19, 12:59
He went by Jack Winters. If you read the paper they tell you his real name. The girls use to tell me when he did duos with a female masseuse to a male client he would fight them to suck a dick. LOL. He was married with kids. I was like, no thanks. But I heard he taught all the girls how to do a massage. They had that part down. To bad they got shut down. This was the same building as oasis but only 7 years ago. You entered from the back parking lot.I'd heard the same thing about him. He did have a pretty nice lineup of ladies. My ATF was Nina. She was absolutely fantastic. Oh well, time moves on!

Stay safe,

JQP.

RWhite
03-27-19, 13:46
Guys, it is being watched. Attempted to go Saigon this morning figured it be light and nobody would be there as I approached the stairs I heard two male voices at the top off to the right. Out of respect for my fellow mongers I paused to let them go in and I stayed on the stairs I then grabbed my phone acted like I was on a call as I an leaning on the wall on the phone trying to be casual. They were still in the hall I heard one guy say I appreciate you guys doing something and he was in a polo and Khakis and walks into the business next door. I then proceed to leave as I am walking down the hall a man with khakis a button and a suit jacket starts to make his way down the stairs behind me.

I know this because once we got outside I walked to my car and he walked to his dark colored ford fusion with municipal plates. Took his jacket and hung it in the back of the car and saw cuffs and a gun.

Stay safe.

Zeek2120
03-27-19, 16:33
Does anyone remember Sue from Oasis? She may have used the name Blair Summers. I've still see her.She is from old ev & aes days. She still workin? Mind sending me a link or pm me details?

JakeMioff
03-27-19, 23:03
Anyone been to Vital Massage Center lately? In Commerce twp, on Richardson west of Haggerty. I RTFF but last report was a long time ago and there seemed to be some confusion on the location / name.

HappyFunBall
03-28-19, 01:41
Anyone been to Vital Massage Center lately? In Commerce twp, on Richardson west of Haggerty. I RTFF but last report was a long time ago and there seemed to be some confusion on the location / name.Yep. I go there regularly for 90 min sessions and I've referred to it before. Great massage. If you're a new face, that's probably all you count on.

FunForJeff
03-28-19, 06:19
Guys, it is being watched. Attempted to go Saigon this morning figured it be light and nobody would be there as I approached the stairs I heard two male voices at the top off to the right. Out of respect for my fellow mongers I paused to let them go in and I stayed on the stairs I then grabbed my phone acted like I was on a call as I an leaning on the wall on the phone trying to be casual. They were still in the hall I heard one guy say I appreciate you guys doing something and he was in a polo and Khakis and walks into the business next door. I then proceed to leave as I am walking down the hall a man with khakis a button and a suit jacket starts to make his way down the stairs behind me.

I know this because once we got outside I walked to my car and he walked to his dark colored ford fusion with municipal plates. Took his jacket and hung it in the back of the car and saw cuffs and a gun.

Stay safe.Thanks for the update, wonder if they are done or if they can go legit for a bit and weather the storm.

KoTiredDyrosh
03-28-19, 13:07
Guys, it is being watched. Attempted to go Saigon this morning figured it be light and nobody would be there as I approached the stairs I heard two male voices at the top off to the right. Out of respect for my fellow mongers I paused to let them go in and I stayed on the stairs I then grabbed my phone acted like I was on a call as I an leaning on the wall on the phone trying to be casual. They were still in the hall I heard one guy say I appreciate you guys doing something and he was in a polo and Khakis and walks into the business next door. I then proceed to leave as I am walking down the hall a man with khakis a button and a suit jacket starts to make his way down the stairs behind me.

I know this because once we got outside I walked to my car and he walked to his dark colored ford fusion with municipal plates. Took his jacket and hung it in the back of the car and saw cuffs and a gun.

Stay safe.I guess the one decent looking spot is gone now.

AudiGuy5674
03-29-19, 11:48
Hello fellow mongers utr Asian Art, shelby twp.

1. Ping 24 tight little thai spinner from NW Southfield Thai has the look that get you hard just looking at her, I have seen a few times allows roaming, and finnish more is available but you invest the time, but I have grown fond of others who deliver, 2-Bella is a tall sexy model 28 bring you own and tip good the bad she only works certain days.

3-Lily 40 looks 6, is a freak daty, anal play and more with teasing technics that drive me crazy that makes for it.

Also 4-Daisy very petie spinner likes daty, very accommodating.

EricTheReddit
03-29-19, 13:35
I guess the one decent looking spot is gone now.It's amazing it lasted this long in that area.

I never went myself because it just seemed ripe for police intervention.

Double K
03-29-19, 15:01
Just looking for some updates on the good old rub and tugs. Haven't been visiting since last year. Still same old song and dance??

The two Shiatsu in SH. I prefer the Dequinder one.

Any reviews on Day Spa on Van Dyke and 21 Mile?

Mmis90
03-29-19, 17:04
Hello fellow mongers utr Asian Art, shelby twp.

1. Ping 24 tight little thai spinner from NW Southfield Thai has the look that get you hard just looking at her, I have seen a few times allows roaming, and finnish more is available but you invest the time, but I have grown fond of others who deliver, 2-Bella is a tall sexy model 28 bring you own and tip good the bad she only works certain days.

3-Lily 40 looks 6, is a freak daty, anal play and more with teasing technics that drive me crazy that makes for it.

Also 4-Daisy very petie spinner likes daty, very accommodating.Been going here weekly for almost a year for the great massage. Never even been offered DIY.

RWhite
03-29-19, 17:14
Been going here weekly for almost a year for the great massage. Never even been offered DIY.OK this seems like a text book case of YMMV however it sounds like a win win because I haven't heard or read about the massage being bad everybody has said the massages are great. So now I don't know what to do. Do I take my $. 5 (includes tip) and go to the sure thing or do I risk it on this? Hhmmm.

ThatGuy8310
03-29-19, 18:12
Hey all,

I'm new to this forum and wanting to start the hobby. I find myself a little leery of AMPs with all the attention recently. Not sure if I'm allowed to ask, but I was wondering if this is the place to look for reliable independents. I appreciate all the info I've seen on here, thanks all.

If this type of post is not allowed, please delete.

Wolves14
03-29-19, 19:39
Tried searching but couldn't find any info, anyone seen Amy? Any info? https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1407872.

Rolling Stoner
03-29-19, 21:52
Hello fellow mongers utr Asian Art, shelby twp.

1. Ping 24 tight little thai spinner from NW Southfield Thai has the look that get you hard just looking at her, I have seen a few times allows roaming, and finnish more is available but you invest the time, but I have grown fond of others who deliver, 2-Bella is a tall sexy model 28 bring you own and tip good the bad she only works certain days.

3-Lily 40 looks 6, is a freak daty, anal play and more with teasing technics that drive me crazy that makes for it.

Also 4-Daisy very petie spinner likes daty, very accommodating.Going to call BS on this one.

MichiganMan74
03-30-19, 07:38
Here's a review for you.


Tried searching but couldn't find any info, anyone seen Amy? Any info? https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1407872.


I recently saw her. While on the table I was told her and the other two ladies that work their will do bikini massage if you buy a "package". She stayed fully dressed the entire time and offered me a H / E to finish. It was very lack luster and I was redressed and out the door in 40 minutes.

At that time structure it works out to be $150 for an hour! While the location is very convenient there are far better options out there! I will not repeat.

Stay safe,

JQP.

LameelCono
03-30-19, 08:03
Guys, it is being watched. Attempted to go Saigon this morning figured it be light and nobody would be there as I approached the stairs I heard two male voices at the top off to the right. Out of respect for my fellow mongers I paused to let them go in and I stayed on the stairs I then grabbed my phone acted like I was on a call as I an leaning on the wall on the phone trying to be casual. They were still in the hall I heard one guy say I appreciate you guys doing something and he was in a polo and Khakis and walks into the business next door. I then proceed to leave as I am walking down the hall a man with khakis a button and a suit jacket starts to make his way down the stairs behind me.

I know this because once we got outside I walked to my car and he walked to his dark colored ford fusion with municipal plates. Took his jacket and hung it in the back of the car and saw cuffs and a gun.

Stay safe.I can think of better things to do than being accosted by LEO in a back alley in Ferndale. Sad. There was a lot of talent to be enjoyed at this Spa. Tiffany is a smart operator and I'm sure she will find a solution to this dilemma. Who knows, she might have half of the town council on her client list. LOL.

RWhite
03-30-19, 11:18
I can think of better things to do than being accosted by LEO in a back alley in Ferndale. Sad. There was a lot of talent to be enjoyed at this Spa. Tiffany is a smart operator and I'm sure she will find a solution to this dilemma. Who knows, she might have half of the town council on her client list. LOL.That's a good point. Maybe she does have some high power officials in her back pocket. If not then for sure their spouses that's the only clean nail shop in Ferndale.

Is relax back open? I seen them post on rub ratings recently.

Dbiz01
03-30-19, 14:14
That's going back in time to date myself. Vivian who provides massages at her condo home (in Roseville or Warren) used to work at Oasis. I also remember Paige from the Oasis as well. Not sure if Paige is still in the massage biz or not.Wow. Blast from 35 years ago. Yeah I remember getting great massages from Vivian at the Oasis. Several dancers from the topless bar Antek's in Detroit worked there as well.

Averily
03-30-19, 15:58
I can think of better things to do than being accosted by LEO in a back alley in Ferndale. Sad. There was a lot of talent to be enjoyed at this Spa. Tiffany is a smart operator and I'm sure she will find a solution to this dilemma. Who knows, she might have half of the town council on her client list. LOL.Tiffany is smart. Just spoke with her. SG has a new policy taking appointments only with regulars and known referrals. Walk-ins will remain downstairs. Good policy.

DangleMan
03-30-19, 23:40
Tiffany is smart. Just spoke with her. SG has a new policy taking appointments only with regulars and known referrals. Walk-ins will remain downstairs. Good policy.Only went there once. Maybe 1. 5 years ago. Great time. Was hoping to go again. I guess it's not likely going to happen now.

MassageMe4
03-31-19, 10:05
I guess the one decent looking spot is gone now.By first impulse I want to say maybe tip off the spa they are being watched that day somehow. The thing is because of the possible translation issue they could also end up suspecting you are involved. Maybe anonymous phone call to help them? I'm not sure if you all think there are some ways to do something like that?

LameelCono
03-31-19, 11:24
Tiffany is smart. Just spoke with her. SG has a new policy taking appointments only with regulars and known referrals. Walk-ins will remain downstairs. Good policy.I think this is a very clever solution to dispel the suspicion that something illicit is going on at the Saigon Spa. It's a known fact that they offer massage services as their online advertisement has pictures of single and double massage rooms. The new screening process provides a level of protection for the service providers and helps them establish a trustworthy client base. I for one will continue my usual appointments and hope others will do the same. As a customer, my policy from now on will be "what happens at Saigon stays at Saigon". PM me if you want more details. The Ferndale Police probably have the same motto others have: To Serve and Protect. What RWhite heard was the Ferndale PD giving lip service to the concerned business owner. The only other protection I need is in the form of latex. I myself plan on being supportive and let them know, when possible, if they're being watched.

LameElcono.

AudiGuy5674
03-31-19, 12:37
Asian Art update for prior post Bella also known as Ella tall model has great breast massage her is great, works two days week bring your own! Before you throw it under the bus, ask your self did I go to each spa listed here? Did I follow those girls from place to place well I did, Here a is little History Redmoon, was on Mack and north 8 mile, now called Asian Healthy Dream Spa, then they moved to Jefferson North of Crocker then Sun Chinese now busted, When Redmoon in Troy was busted, and all over news, You said to your self too bad I missed that one, UTR means you won't know till it gone, The girls working Asian Art are nervous and so are the mangers. Will you be told diy yes but when has stop you to encourage them. YMMV, don't expect to be offered anything, you have to coach them and make them feel comfortable offer them a massage and see where it goes, you know if you got her then is game on! You Must be a regular they are Chinese not Korean like Acu, Van Dyke, ect where they point to it and you give the nod.

Redmoon_ https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/troy-massage-parlor-shuts-down-after-police-find-staff-engaging-in-sexual-activities.

Sun Chinese_ https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/01/20/4-charged-with-prostitution-at-harrison-township-massage-parlor/.

John3030
03-31-19, 14:33
I'd heard the same thing about him. He did have a pretty nice lineup of ladies. My ATF was Nina. She was absolutely fantastic. Oh well, time moves on!

Stay safe,

JQP.Lexi was my favorite, saw her a few times after she left there but then lost track of her. I wish I could find her again.

DangleMan
03-31-19, 15:40
Lexi was my favorite, saw her a few times after she left there but then lost track of her. I wish I could find her again.I went one time only. Great room. Fireplace. Nice and clean. Saw Faith, a curvy girl. Fantastic.

NoName0000
03-31-19, 18:11
Been going here weekly for almost a year for the great massage. Never even been offered DIY.Looking for somewhere that accommodates women and is specific for a woman's masssage. Any tips?

TullyBlanchard
03-31-19, 21:44
I went one time only. Great room. Fireplace. Nice and clean. Saw Faith, a curvy girl. Fantastic.I was a big fan of Katie. She could tease a cock like no other.

Streethunter
04-01-19, 09:10
Place is on 21 and Hayes in strip next to normal business. Got Julie. Surprisingly younger than usual. Great massage, but absolutely nothing more. Draped whole time. When she asked me to flip she turned around to make sure she wouldn't see anything. I gave plenty of hints but they seem on the up and up. If you want a decent massage it's pretty good. Nothing beyond that tho. Not sure what repeat visits would uncover. $65 an hour. Small tip, that was of course not enough in her eyes. Never is tho.

AudiGuy5674
04-01-19, 09:19
My recent trip to Spring Massage I met and elder lady and thought why not, I waited in the room another girl came in I didn't ask her name because I was'nt planing on coming back because I have weekly standing 2 hr appointment with my Atf at Oriental Massage on walton, will be in shortly and I had some time burn. As you can see I have traveled the path of the unknown to find the pot of gold, I would say that your best way to find it is to arrive late at night just before they close, because when they are tired they give in! Which is great for when you offer them massage and see where it leads, but to make this signature move I call the "flipper move" has a 40% return.

Once you been laying down for 15-20 minutes you ask for some water 2. Then when she returns your sitting on edge with towel over you lap, you drink some then set in on the table, and slowly but your hands on them giving a shoulder rub then you tell them to sit down between your legs and continue, this is when you know they want more, if they stand up you stand and continue rubbing and when they turn around facing you reach down pick her up and spin around and flip her back on the table with her legs up and back this when you go down and breath heavy on her why so she can feel the heat from your breath, this is when you get them off then go for raw why, the other way is to have her lay down and massage their back and ass and sit on their back reversed rubbing there ass till you get the why exposed, if you satisfied her your next visit can be in the daytime. For those who can't pick up a girl, I just did this and it worked a few weeks ago, I lay my head back over the edge of the table between her legs and repeat, she was squirming from the heat and during the raw why she rubbed me out, and when I got up she was in shock and collapsed on the table shaking her head of what she let me do, all I could do was Laugh and give her a hug and told her she be ok.

AudiGuy5674
04-01-19, 09:29
Place is on 21 and Hayes in strip next to normal business. Got Julie. Surprisingly younger than usual. Great massage, but absolutely nothing more. Draped whole time. When she asked me to flip she turned around to make sure she wouldn't see anything. I gave plenty of hints but they seem on the up and up. If you want a decent massage it's pretty good. Nothing beyond that tho. Not sure what repeat visits would uncover. $65 an hour. Small tip, that was of course not enough in her eyes. Never is tho.I have been going here for 6 years and I only go here for a solid massage nothing to had here. The best is emily she works nights and Lily durring the day. I have seen the young one but never tried, but maybe I will this week, and give here the flip.

RayLatoole
04-01-19, 13:19
Anyone know what happened to first oriental therapy near 6 mile and middlebelt?. Never got anything but a great massage. But it was great!

Wally2822
04-01-19, 16:23
Looks like she finally realized there is more lucrative ways out there then just giving massages.

https://escortindex.com/ad/detroit/320-204-6715/1/1789204

DaveL7
04-01-19, 16:25
I'm very interested in sexy Selena in garden city. I've looked thru past posts and I can't find anything. Any intel? An American provider is cool.

https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1143814

CarmeloJoe35
04-01-19, 16:38
Looking for somewhere that accommodates women and is specific for a woman's masssage. Any tips?Saigon accommodates women all the time.

Rolling Stoner
04-01-19, 20:35
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PastMyPrime
04-02-19, 00:21
Stopped by there tonight really needing a massage and less the rub and tug. Left the underwear on and got under the table. By all appearances it is totally legit. Still, one great massage. Even used heat on my bad knee.

Given the LEO in the area on other issues, I did not push for extras.

Anon2854
04-02-19, 09:28
I did 30 minutes at Asian Well Being last night. She was extremely giggly but in an annoying way. Not ONCE did she mention money all the way from when I walked in until the end. I honestly think I could have left without paying a dime. I was getting dressed and said "oh BTW, I left $. 8 on the table". She said "oh okay" and grabbed it. Standard HE fare. Super busy parking lot but pretty nice joint. I was in a huge room. I liked how low key she was about money but she did start talking to me about her family on the flip.

Anon2854
04-02-19, 09:29
Stopped by there tonight really needing a massage and less the rub and tug. Left the underwear on and got under the table. By all appearances it is totally legit. Still, one great massage. Even used heat on my bad knee.

Given the LEO in the area on other issues, I did not push for extras.Pretty sure this is the place that offered self service to me.

PhilCorliss1
04-02-19, 10:10
Any inter on great hands massage on greenfield?

LexxxLuthor
04-02-19, 11:07
I did 30 minutes at Asian Well Being last night. She was extremely giggly but in an annoying way. Not ONCE did she mention money all the way from when I walked in until the end. I honestly think I could have left without paying a dime. I was getting dressed and said "oh BTW, I left $. 8 on the table". She said "oh okay" and grabbed it. Standard HE fare. Super busy parking lot but pretty nice joint. I was in a huge room. I liked how low key she was about money but she did start talking to me about her family on the flip.Wait so what did you get for 80?

MousePad313
04-02-19, 11:59
I'm very interested in sexy Selena in garden city. I've looked thru past posts and I can't find anything. Any intel? An American provider is cool.

https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1143814Pretty certain I saw a post about this 18 months or so ago. If I remember correctly it was a group of white chicks that offer legit massage and an offer to upcharge for bikini massage and no extras. Pretty sure it was reported as a total ripoff.

PhilCorliss1
04-02-19, 12:50
Wait so what did you get for 80?No wonder the Mamasans are putting their hand out for more!

MusicBoss10
04-02-19, 12:53
Pretty certain I saw a post about this 18 months or so ago. If I remember correctly it was a group of white chicks that offer legit massage and an offer to upcharge for bikini massage and no extras. Pretty sure it was reported as a total ripoff.Yes a total rip off, shitty massage and nothing available. Avoid!

Anon2854
04-02-19, 13:04
Wait so what did you get for 80?Just HE. Nothing exciting.

Anon2854
04-02-19, 13:09
Any inter on great hands massage on greenfield?If you read back through the posts there are some folks saying this is just a standard massage. Nothing else. Also I think there was someone that said there was an issue regarding payment. Maybe he didn't want to tip and she gave him shit?

NaughtyMan
04-02-19, 18:28
I haven't been to M1 for about a month since yellow was on vacation. So last time I was there, I had Momo. Does anyone know if Yellow is back at M1 yet? Any feedback is appreciated.

Guyneedsfun
04-02-19, 22:10
I'm very interested in sexy Selena in garden city. I've looked thru past posts and I can't find anything. Any intel? An American provider is cool.

https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1143814I wouldn't recommend. Attractive girl but only mediocre massage and NO extras. She offers a sort of topless massage (but said she had to wear pasties) and no touching. Can't remember what I paid but definitely not worth it. I left mad for making an amateur mistake as I've read about this location in the past but didn't recognize until too late.

KamiTenchi
04-03-19, 10:30
Can someone pm me her number or a way to get in contact with her. Thank you.

HeeJung47
04-03-19, 10:40
I did 30 minutes at Asian Well Being last night. She was extremely giggly but in an annoying way. Not ONCE did she mention money all the way from when I walked in until the end. I honestly think I could have left without paying a dime. I was getting dressed and said "oh BTW, I left $. 8 on the table". She said "oh okay" and grabbed it. Standard HE fare. Super busy parking lot but pretty nice joint. I was in a huge room. I liked how low key she was about money but she did start talking to me about her family on the flip.Are you the owner, cause this spa is very well known to be " massage only ". I would have to question this review.

RWhite
04-03-19, 12:28
This referral thing. Somebody message me so I can go upstairs instead of downstairs for the most lackluster massage in history.

Anybody got Jen number? Before she left for Nam she gave me that weird cell number with 8 in the area code but I have a new phone now.

Or give me a solid referral because I'm not doing that BS massage again.

Anon2854
04-03-19, 16:09
Are you the owner, cause this spa is very well known to be " massage only ". I would have to question this review.Not the owner. Are you sure we are talking about the same place? Check post #12538: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4501-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4153201&viewfull=1. Some other guy with pretty much the exact experience I had. I didn't find anyone else in this thread talking about the place. I don't pay for rubmaps so I can't see reviews but it's not marked "non-erotic" there and it has 20 ish reviews. I figured if it had that many reviews and wasn't marked non-erotic it must be worth at least checking out.

ProCheck
04-03-19, 17:56
So after some read, I'm give try.

Comfoot on hagerty: provider 7/10, he 6/10 (to mechanical), teasing 8/10 it's good and a lot, rub her 8/10. (she liket), massage 7/10 (it's good if nobody disturb her, she can focus on you) . Damage. 7+. 3 Overal strong 7. Repeat? Maybe if can't find better.

Whole Health Asian on orchard lake: provider 5,6/10, he 0/10 (don't think), teasing 1/10 (almost nothing), rub her 0/10 (no), massage 9/10, good stop if you looking just for strong massage that all what she can provide. Damage 7+1.

Asian Massage On Farmington: provider 7/10, he 0/10 (don't think), teasing 0/10 (nothing), rub her 0/10. Massage 7/10. Damage. 7+. 1 overal just massage 7 not repeat.

DragonSnake
04-03-19, 19:33
If you read back through the posts there are some folks saying this is just a standard massage. Nothing else. Also I think there was someone that said there was an issue regarding payment. Maybe he didn't want to tip and she gave him shit?Been there twice he both times. Don't know if new girl.

Lucy provides anything addtional. DS.

RWhite
04-03-19, 23:30
Been there twice he both times. Don't know if new girl.

Lucy provides anything addtional. DS.I'm not chancing it at that place anymore she tricked me into more time with every visit (30 min 60 min 90 min) claiming there wasn't enough time. Then with the 90 said times up (no extras). Went two blocks up to the hidden AMP and got exactly what I wanted.

AudiGuy5674
04-04-19, 09:18
The massage here is good I just went last night seen Sue who I thinks likes me, so YMMV Good Hands and teasing, this my fourth time. I will be back? 12 mile Asian Massage in Farmington Hills.

Rogmaes
04-04-19, 11:07
I can see no reason to stay away since RWhite himself went back looking for Jen. I went Monday and did not see any evidence of surveillance. I have experience in that field. If you're a regular, call ahead as I did and the SP will meet you at the top of the stairs. Not advertising for them, just abiding by their new policy. Saigon is a first class Spa, with experienced Service Providers you can rely on. Everyone there wants to provide the best service and want to see you back if you're respectful and considerate. I can only vouch for Tiffany and Ebony. Believe me, they will provide you with an experience you won't soon forget. IMHO.

BigMac55
04-04-19, 13:50
Not the owner. Are you sure we are talking about the same place? Check post #12538: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4501-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4153201&viewfull=1. Some other guy with pretty much the exact experience I had. I didn't find anyone else in this thread talking about the place. I don't pay for rubmaps so I can't see reviews but it's not marked "non-erotic" there and it has 20 ish reviews. I figured if it had that many reviews and wasn't marked non-erotic it must be worth at least checking out.There's a reason HeeJung has "troll" under his user name. Don't let him / her rile you up. Best to just ignore.

RWhite
04-04-19, 13:52
I can see no reason to stay away since RWhite himself went back looking for Jen. I went Monday and did not see any evidence of surveillance. I have experience in that field. If you're a regular, call ahead as I did and the SP will meet you at the top of the stairs. Not advertising for them, just abiding by their new policy. Saigon is a first class Spa, with experienced Service Providers you can rely on. Everyone there wants to provide the best service and want to see you back if you're respectful and considerate. I can only vouch for Tiffany and Ebony. Believe me, they will provide you with an experience you won't soon forget. IMHO.Has anybody ever had FS from Tiffany? When I was stationed in Tokyo doing anything with the house mom was forbidden. My last visit she did everything but FS awesome bolt ons. But despite YMMV I've yet to read about Tiff doing FS.

KevBoss88
04-04-19, 14:48
I can see no reason to stay away since RWhite himself went back looking for Jen. I went Monday and did not see any evidence of surveillance. I have experience in that field. If you're a regular, call ahead as I did and the SP will meet you at the top of the stairs. Not advertising for them, just abiding by their new policy. Saigon is a first class Spa, with experienced Service Providers you can rely on. Everyone there wants to provide the best service and want to see you back if you're respectful and considerate. I can only vouch for Tiffany and Ebony. Believe me, they will provide you with an experience you won't soon forget. IMHO.My first visit back in a few months due to back issues and the experience honestly could not be better, the suites were simply amazing, if you cannot be relaxed in this place the you can not relax anywhere, tiff has spared no expense in her remodel, she gives an incredible massage and the ending is amazing, I opted for the 1/2 hour CBJ. She is the only girl I have ever met who can get the job done with a cover on, all in all just a total relaxed and professional half hour. I have not and will not go elsewhere.

Gilfoyle2
04-04-19, 14:52
Any inter on great hands massage on greenfield?I was regular dreamer when Linda was there, I think she liked me and took care of my back well. She had great massage 10/10 and in time I left happy. I dreamed of this yesterday but the experience was so so. Massage was 6/10 and he 2/10 rushed. Her name was Michelle. I will not repeat as she was demanding 20 tip I said heck no but agreed on 40 with he. I would describe her as welcoming at first when good English and once there and paid, rushed and diminished English skills. I would say massage alone was good so not a totally bust.

BattMann
04-04-19, 16:32
I plan to go back. Looking forward to seeing the new set up. I'm glad I've been out of town for all the excitement though, big head says it's good to let things settle in a little to let the nosy neighbor get used to minding his own business again. Hopefully his lease is up soon. Maybe a monger owned biz can move in next time!

I've given a lot of thought to why some of these places go on for years with no issue and others get shut down. In my opinion it seems that in general it's a "squeaky wheel" situation. By that I mean, most local LEO could care less (heck, many are probably customers) until some do-gooder wife or nosy business neighbor makes a compliant, forcing Uncle to look into things. I'm betting Tiffany is going to be able to navigate this one if she's smart (I think she is), and keeps her head on when it comes to new faces. At least I'm hoping so.


I can see no reason to stay away since RWhite himself went back looking for Jen. I went Monday and did not see any evidence of surveillance. I have experience in that field. If you're a regular, call ahead as I did and the SP will meet you at the top of the stairs. Not advertising for them, just abiding by their new policy. Saigon is a first class Spa, with experienced Service Providers you can rely on. Everyone there wants to provide the best service and want to see you back if you're respectful and considerate. I can only vouch for Tiffany and Ebony. Believe me, they will provide you with an experience you won't soon forget. IMHO.

HeeJung47
04-04-19, 17:15
Not the owner. Are you sure we are talking about the same place? Check post #12538: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4501-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4153201&viewfull=1. Some other guy with pretty much the exact experience I had. I didn't find anyone else in this thread talking about the place. I don't pay for rubmaps so I can't see reviews but it's not marked "non-erotic" there and it has 20 ish reviews. I figured if it had that many reviews and wasn't marked non-erotic it must be worth at least checking out.It is the same place and it is marked non-erotic. There is 22 reviews on this place. 21 say they got only a standard massage, pretty sure the 22nd review was a lie.

PieBoy
04-04-19, 21:17
It is the same place and it is marked non-erotic. There is 22 reviews on this place. 21 say they got only a standard massage, pretty sure the 22nd review was a lie.And BTW the last rubmaps review was 24 months ago.

Anon2854
04-04-19, 21:57
And BTW the last rubmaps review was 24 months ago.Obviously there is no way to prove it but I can tell you it happened. Maybe I caught her on a good day? I might go back again this weekend and give an update.

RWhite
04-04-19, 23:05
Fellas, I need your help. A female friend is flying in for the week from Miami. She's open minded and well aware of my AMP visits. She says there's plenty in Florida for ladies and wants a H. E. From a parlor while up here DATY a plus.

I pick her up from Troy airport Saturday morning so help me out if you know an AMP that leaves a woman happy also then message me.

CarmeloJoe35
04-05-19, 12:08
Fellas, I need your help. A female friend is flying in for the week from Miami. She's open minded and well aware of my AMP visits. She says there's plenty in Florida for ladies and wants a H. E. From a parlor while up here DATY a plus.

I pick her up from Troy airport Saturday morning so help me out if you know an AMP that leaves a woman happy also then message me.Crazy question, but why don't you just take care of that for her? LOL.

Rolling Stoner
04-05-19, 14:24
Fellas, I need your help. A female friend is flying in for the week from Miami. She's open minded and well aware of my AMP visits. She says there's plenty in Florida for ladies and wants a H. E. From a parlor while up here DATY a plus.

I pick her up from Troy airport Saturday morning so help me out if you know an AMP that leaves a woman happy also then message me.There is only one place she will be happy with. Try the Rolling Stoner Massage and Spa. PM me for address.

RWhite
04-05-19, 14:36
Crazy question, but why don't you just take care of that for her? LOL.I will definitely do that, but like some of us in here she also has an Asian fetish. I told her good luck because AMP's up here discourage women from coming in.

HeeJung47
04-05-19, 15:09
Obviously there is no way to prove it but I can tell you it happened. Maybe I caught her on a good day? I might go back again this weekend and give an update.I am not saying it couldn't happen. Sometimes, these places get sold and the new people provide a different service. Let us know what happens the 2nd time around.

RayLatoole
04-05-19, 16:05
Crazy question, but why don't you just take care of that for her? LOL.She likes shaved bushes!

ZombSayshi
04-05-19, 17:22
Obviously there is no way to prove it but I can tell you it happened. Maybe I caught her on a good day? I might go back again this weekend and give an update.I got finished there regularly too about 2 and a half years ago when I lived out there.

BattMann
04-05-19, 18:43
The place on Southfield by the big boy? It's possible. Been there easily 20-30 x over the past 4 years. Never an issue. Solid massage, ok HE. The one lady can go hard enough to make your eyes water. They are both probably somebody's grandma.


I am not saying it couldn't happen. Sometimes, these places get sold and the new people provide a different service. Let us know what happens the 2nd time around.

Anon2854
04-05-19, 20:30
The place on Southfield by the big boy? It's possible. Been there easily 20-30 x over the past 4 years. Never an issue. Solid massage, ok HE. The one lady can go hard enough to make your eyes water. They are both probably somebody's grandma.Yep. By the Big Boy. This is basically my exact experience to a T.

Anon2854
04-05-19, 20:43
Took one for the team on MH Massage on Southfield. I knew it was going to be a legit place from the moment I walked in. Advertising a special couples massages. Really nice place. Linens smelled clean. Most comfortable massage table I've ever been on. I wanted a half hour which I knew was $. 5 so I got undressed and put $. 8 down on the table. She walked in, saw the money, counted it, I told her the rest was a tip. She gave the absolute best massage I've ever had. Pretty much no tease at all. Although I told her I wanted a half hour she went for 45 minutes. On the flip she put a drape over the part that matters and continued the massage. Eventually she bumped into it and said "sorry too much?" I said "no". She eventually started brushing into it and running her hand over it but when the rubber met the road she offered me self-service. She wasn't that friendly before or after but they do give out complimentary FULL SIZE waters on the way out so at least I've got that going for me.

ScMagic12
04-05-19, 23:01
Yep. By the Big Boy. This is basically my exact experience to a T.Hey, let's not disparage an American iconic brand with a half ass massage parlor and a painful he by a grandma. Big boy and grandmas always evoke a positive image in my mind, don't diminish that for me.

AvBrent
04-06-19, 00:03
Took one for the team on MH Massage on Southfield. I knew it was going to be a legit place from the moment I walked in. Advertising a special couples massages. Really nice place. Linens smelled clean. Most comfortable massage table I've ever been on. I wanted a half hour which I knew was $. 5 so I got undressed and put $. 8 down on the table. She walked in, saw the money, counted it, I told her the rest was a tip. She gave the absolute best massage I've ever had. Pretty much no tease at all. Although I told her I wanted a half hour she went for 45 minutes. On the flip she put a drape over the part that matters and continued the massage. Eventually she bumped into it and said "sorry too much?" I said "no". She eventually started brushing into it and running her hand over it but when the rubber met the road she offered me self-service. She wasn't that friendly before or after but they do give out complimentary FULL SIZE waters on the way out so at least I've got that going for me.Nice review. How much was an hour? Was she good looking? Do you think if you had played your cards different she'd have finished with a HJ?

RayLatoole
04-06-19, 08:24
Yep. By the Big Boy. This is basically my exact experience to a T.I know they all have a lucy working, but the lucy that I saw there used to work at tomii in livonia. She was wild!. Wondering if she's still there.

Anon2854
04-06-19, 11:55
Any Caucasian massage parlors offering HE out there? Never gone to a residence for a massage and feeling uneasy about it.

Anon2854
04-06-19, 13:51
Nice review. How much was an hour? Was she good looking? Do you think if you had played your cards different she'd have finished with a HJ?Don't remember. I usually call ahead for prices so when I get there I already have a plan. I think $. 7 for an hour? She was not THAT cute but probably in her 30's. She had a pretty thick accent but didn't seem fresh off the boat like many others do (don't mean that to be racist). Personality definitely didn't make up for the average looks. She used hot stones and even climbed up on the table (pre flip). As I said before, excellent massage. I don't think she would have done it if I'd played my cards differently. The place has been open less than a year if I remember correctly. I didn't give detail about what happened on the flip in my last review so I'll do it here: I flipped, she covered me up with a small towel. She rubbed my stomach and inner thighs. She started getting closer and closer but I knew where it was going. She ran her hand gently over my guy. I moved the towel. She continued to 1 out of 10 tease. I eventually just grabbed her hand gently and put it where it is supposed to go. She pulled back and said "you need some oil?" I said "no, you do it. " She said "massage only here. " I was going to just call it quits but since I tipped up front anyway I decided to just do self service. She rubbed my boys and stomach. That was that. I understand refusing self-service but when I read about guys that storm out and say "I'm never coming back" or refuse to tip or EVEN PAY, I just think they're assholes. People have a right to not go beyond the standard massage. Fortunately there are sites like this and rubmaps so you at least know what you're getting into before you walk in the door.

Anon2854
04-06-19, 17:26
First went to Asian Well Being on Southfield because I had good luck a few days ago and wanted to report an update. Walked in, it smelled like food and an old lady with two hair clips holding her hair half up greeted me. Not very friendly. She said 30 min wait. I started to wait but between her shitty attitude, the smell and the fact that according to others this seems to be a YMMV place I decided to head down the road.

Went to the hidden AMP on Southfield. Paid $ upfront for hour plus tip. Young ish. Not friendly. Not even a fake smile. She focused on my back for 30 minutes with minimal oil. Legs for 10 minutes with NO oil. Absolutely no teasing at all. Hot towel then gently ran her fingertips over my back and near my boys. That lasted for probably 60 seconds then flip and asked for another $30. I said no more money. She pushed. I said no. She said okay but next time it's $. 6. She proceeded to give the worst HE I've ever experienced. Facility is small and kind of gross. Massage 1/10, HE 1/10 also parking there on a weekend your car sticks out like a sore thumb with your license plate facing the road.

RWhite
04-06-19, 19:27
Lets take a survey. Shiatsu or Famous Shiatsu?

I've gone to famous several times because the best tease I've ever experienced was from Famous. I've never had anything more than H. E. But the tease alone was well worth my hr massage.

I've never been to Shiatsu though I am curious about going but out of all the AMP's I've been too Famous gives the best tease.

Which one do you like and why and how much?

BTW I drop 1. 4 rolled up singles in her hand before I undress no words spoken and she gets to work sometimes I will toss another. 2.

Detroit1
04-06-19, 23:22
Anyone still getting 2 pops for the donations?

Member #6007
04-06-19, 23:28
Any Caucasian massage parlors offering HE out there? Never gone to a residence for a massage and feeling uneasy about it.Not parlours, but sole practitioners, safer.

Terri Ann in Auburn Hills or Daisy in Rochester.

YetAnotherGuy
04-06-19, 23:43
I was regular dreamer when Linda was there, I think she liked me and took care of my back well. She had great massage 10/10 and in time I left happy. I dreamed of this yesterday but the experience was so so. Massage was 6/10 and he 2/10 rushed. Her name was Michelle. I will not repeat as she was demanding 20 tip I said heck no but agreed on 40 with he. I would describe her as welcoming at first when good English and once there and paid, rushed and diminished English skills. I would say massage alone was good so not a totally bust.Hilarious. What's Michelle look like if you don't mind me asking, and are there other girls there?

RWhite
04-07-19, 01:03
Lets take a survey. Shiatsu or Famous Shiatsu?

I've gone to famous several times because the best tease I've ever experienced was from Famous. I've never had anything more than H. E. But the tease alone was well worth my hr massage.

I've never been to Shiatsu though I am curious about going but out of all the AMP's I've been too Famous gives the best tease.

Which one do you like and why and how much?

BTW I drop 1. 4 rolled up singles in her hand before I undress no words spoken and she gets to work sometimes I will toss another. 2.I meant (. 2).

The original post looks like $$ I would never spend that. My limit is 1. 6 max (includes door and tip).

JustAGuy33
04-07-19, 01:18
Anyone still getting 2 pops for the donations?Last time I was there 3 mounths ago I saw momo who I have been with before. Only had one pop and last time before that two pops. So I'm not sure but as I said my last time one pop.

Averily
04-07-19, 04:26
First went to Asian Well Being on Southfield because I had good luck a few days ago and wanted to report an update. Walked in, it smelled like food and an old lady with two hair clips holding her hair half up greeted me. Not very friendly. She said 30 min wait. I started to wait but between her shitty attitude, the smell and the fact that according to others this seems to be a YMMV place I decided to head down the road.

Went to the hidden AMP on Southfield. Paid $ upfront for hour plus tip. Young ish. Not friendly. Not even a fake smile. She focused on my back for 30 minutes with minimal oil. Legs for 10 minutes with NO oil. Absolutely no teasing at all. Hot towel then gently ran her fingertips over my back and near my boys. That lasted for probably 60 seconds then flip and asked for another $30. I said no more money. She pushed. I said no. She said okay but next time it's $. 6. She proceeded to give the worst HE I've ever experienced. Facility is small and kind of gross. Massage 1/10, HE 1/10 also parking there on a weekend your car sticks out like a sore thumb with your license plate facing the road.It looks like Cici is still there. She does loosen up a bit if you make her laugh. I'm not going back until the next rotation at this place.

FunForJeff
04-07-19, 08:59
Not the owner. Are you sure we are talking about the same place? Check post #12538: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4501-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4153201&viewfull=1. Some other guy with pretty much the exact experience I had. I didn't find anyone else in this thread talking about the place. I don't pay for rubmaps so I can't see reviews but it's not marked "non-erotic" there and it has 20 ish reviews. I figured if it had that many reviews and wasn't marked non-erotic it must be worth at least checking out.I've been there a few times, but at least a year or so ago am pretty sure I got a HE most of the time, I think once I didn't and it's why I stopped.

Perusing
04-07-19, 09:23
Lets take a survey. Shiatsu or Famous Shiatsu?

I've gone to famous several times because the best tease I've ever experienced was from Famous. I've never had anything more than H. E. But the tease alone was well worth my hr massage.

...BTW I drop 1. 4 rolled up singles in her hand before I undress no words spoken and she gets to work sometimes I will toss another. 2.140 for massage with HE seems quite high, and curious about why in singles? What's their HR rate for massage?

RWhite
04-07-19, 09:32
140 for massage with HE seems quite high, and curious about why in singles? What's their HR rate for massage?I've been going there for awhile and usually Yoko gets me out the door in 80-90 minutes despite only requesting an hour. But full hour with tip is $100.

I started paying in singles from when I first went to Serendipity a few years ago I paid 60 and they were pist and horrible HE and said next time bring more money. That was on a Monday, I come back that Friday same person except I pay 60 flashing all singles rolled up and she lights up and gives me an 8/10 HE plenty of oil and all. Been doing it ever since.

FCastle88
04-07-19, 09:56
Lets take a survey. Shiatsu or Famous Shiatsu?

I've gone to famous several times because the best tease I've ever experienced was from Famous. I've never had anything more than H. E. But the tease alone was well worth my hr massage.

I've never been to Shiatsu though I am curious about going but out of all the AMP's I've been too Famous gives the best tease.

Which one do you like and why and how much?

BTW I drop 1. 4 rolled up singles in her hand before I undress no words spoken and she gets to work sometimes I will toss another. 2.Assuming you're talking about Shiatsu "Well Being" vs Famous Shiatsu. Honestly they are pretty similar in what you get and the prices are the same. $60 for hh and $80 for hr if I remember correctly. Both give pretty good teases if you get the right provider. In terms of AMPs that give only HEs they are both in my top 3 right now along with ACU. But honestly with all this LEO activity now I haven't been to any in the last 3-4 months.

Anon2854
04-07-19, 12:18
140 for massage with HE seems quite high, and curious about why in singles? What's their HR rate for massage?I'm guessing the reason for singles is to make it seem like more money than it actually is but depending on the provider I'd guess they are going to count it which more or less defeats the purpose.

BoomBoom74
04-07-19, 14:18
Not parlours, but sole practitioners, safer.

Terri Ann in Auburn Hills or Daisy in Rochester.How old is Terri, does she work from home and what's the damage for a HE?

Brian 59
04-07-19, 15:23
How old is Terri, does she work from home and what's the damage for a HE?I this is the Terri I am thinking of. I thought she got married and retired. I would love to see her again. Any adds anywhere?

Thanks.

Member #6007
04-07-19, 15:43
I this is the Terri I am thinking of. I thought she got married and retired. I would love to see her again. Any adds anywhere?

Thanks.No ads I am aware of.

248-xxxx*xx.

BoomBoom74
04-07-19, 16:16
I this is the Terri I am thinking of. I thought she got married and retired. I would love to see her again. Any adds anywhere?

Thanks.Is this her?

https://therapybyterrianne.weebly.com/

RWhite
04-07-19, 17:40
Who on the list offers extras. We all know about massage breeze but who else?

https://www.massagefinder.com/detroit/all/

Member #6007
04-07-19, 18:21
Is this her?

https://therapybyterrianne.weebly.com/She does work from home, an Oakland County mobile home. Very safe.