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I've been reading about 200 at these places. Is there a house fee on top of that?
Smashing1979
12-05-23, 16:15
I've been reading about 200 at these places. Is there a house fee on top of that?200 includes everything at these places.
Smashing1979
12-05-23, 16:16
Has anyone been to day spa, in Mt. Clemens lately? Was wondering if they have any new talent. I'll TOFTT but was just curious.Are you talking about the one in Utica? Didn't know there was a Day Spa in Mt. Clemens. Do you mean 7 Day Spa? That has been reviewed extensively. FS joint with rotating talent. Anna was the superstar there but has since moved on.
I have seen plenty of times an amazing UTR Caucasian mid 40's banging body.
All natural.
Nothing fake no sagging.
Daty, utc roaming are YMMV.
Otherwise standard HE.
In Keego harbor so it's not Lisa FYI.
Willing to trade for a UTR that will do outcall or a SB.
Hobby Cat 55
12-05-23, 16:40
I've been reading about 200 (house $80, and lady/extras at $120+) at these places. Is there a house fee on top of that?Typically that's all in at $200. Magic will want more ($220-$240). If you pay more you might get more just depends on the lady. Pound on, HC.
Saw a good report on this new place in Rochester in the Escort forum (address right in the ad).
Anyone else try? https://skipthegames.com/posts/dearborn/female-escorts/asian/gfebbbj69b2b248-805-2943new-fe/364310445471.
Might TOFTT soon.
Typically that's all in at $200. Magic will want more ($220-$240). If you pay more you might get more just depends on the lady. Pound on, HC.Thank you HC. Just give it all to mamasan?
QuestForFun69
12-05-23, 17:49
Decided to try and help out nuru lady. She said she's still been a bit slow lately. Seems like she's trying some new things and is open to requests. She answered the door in a slinky silk shirt with nothing on underneath. She always lets me roam a bit before the massage and seems to enjoy everything as well. Massage was short then we switched over to her hydro massage bed (basically a table shower / nuru slide mix). She does something where she squeezes jr between her legs and grinds hard, which feels really good. After that, she puts him between the girls and then proceeded to give me a very enthusiastic BBJ. She is a bit older, but still has very perky tits and likes to be played with. Her attitude is the best I've experienced (I've been serving her for a few years and keep returning). She's always very energetic and accommodating to my older self. 1.6 total for massage, body slide, and BBJ. Showered with her afterwards where she played with me for a little before getting dressed. Contact info is easy to find if you search downriver nuru.FS must not be on the table, no reports of it being available.
I was wondering if anyone has seen her, or if she's one of Natalie's girls. Pm is fine.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/3250323
DansMurdock
12-05-23, 19:31
FS must not be on the table, no reports of it being available.Last visit to the nuru lady I had her on her back eating her and moved up to rub Jr on her kitty. Rubbed her kitty around with Jr and the rubbed out a nut on her shaved box and smeared it all over her. I could have easily plunged in but I draw the line at pussy jobs and oral as I'm married. I don't do FS with anyone but the misses. She def open for it I'm sure. May take a few visits as I've been seeing her for a few years now.
No it was the famous Natasha in Novi. Don't know the other one you mentioned. She must be bad.
I hope this isn't the one in Plymouth. For your sake.
Decided to try and help out nuru lady. She said she's still been a bit slow lately. Seems like she's trying some new things and is open to requests. She answered the door in a slinky silk shirt with nothing on underneath. She always lets me roam a bit before the massage and seems to enjoy everything as well. Massage was short then we switched over to her hydro massage bed (basically a table shower / nuru slide mix). She does something where she squeezes jr between her legs and grinds hard, which feels really good. After that, she puts him between the girls and then proceeded to give me a very enthusiastic BBJ. She is a bit older, but still has very perky tits and likes to be played with. Her attitude is the best I've experienced (I've been serving her for a few years and keep returning). She's always very energetic and accommodating to my older self. 1.6 total for massage, body slide, and BBJ. Showered with her afterwards where she played with me for a little before getting dressed. Contact info is easy to find if you search downriver nuru.Is that no AA rule still in play? Have any AA men seen her? I'm curious about her but I noticed that blurb on her post.
I was wondering if anyone has seen her, or if she's one of Natalie's girls. Pm is fine.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/3250323She's one of Natalie's girls. Works in the same studio as her. But she gets the worse room with an awful bed. Pictures are not accurate. Awful massage. Doesn't take clothes off. CBJ is $300. Natalie is actually better.
Sorry, behind on some postings.
Thai DDS in Novi, been here a few times, decent massage by 2 diff providers who got topless with a standard HJ. $60 + Door.
Spa 1717 - Been here a few times in the last month everything is on the table here, meh looking provider. Table shower available.
7 mile spa. Everything on the table, extremely rushed and encountered other mongers in the waiting area. Done with this place.
Spa on Middlebelt between Plymouth and Joy. Cute provider, OK massage. Everything available here too.
Previous posts will indicate consistent fees with the Livonia AMP's.Curious what location you're referring to on Middlevelt between Joy and Plymouth! Pm welcome too.
Please and thank you!
Checking in if there's any new reports on the Six Mile location in Livonia. I think someone TOFTT buts each isn't helping me.
https://us-detroit.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/33433-six-mile-rd-livonia/23119841.htmlNever mind. Closed.
DayMan1270
12-06-23, 04:14
Are any of the FS places open late into the night? Very brief trip to the area and I'd like to squeeze in a visit if I can. I had a really good experience at Magic last time, but it looks like they close at 10 pm and I'm not sure I'll make it in time. Anyone know anywhere that caters to night owl hours?
DayMan1270
12-06-23, 05:42
Does anyone know if there any FS places open late at night? I'm making a very brief trip and I was hoping to stop by while I'm in town. I had a really good experience at Magic last time, but it looks like they're only open til 10 pm. I'm not sure I'll be able to make it in time. Are there any places in town that cater to night owl hours?
Went here today and had a girl named Apple or April. She is probably 25, decent English and gorgeous. Dressed in a short white sun dress, great body, super cute. Table shower was great. First time there, as it's new, so I only showed up with $, which I regretted. $80 house fee and quoted me $ for HJ and $ +40 for covered BJ. Don't think $180 is worth a HJ but she is smoking hot. Also, given the area I can't see this place lasting long.I saw the new girl Bella and I actually got GFE, haven't had that in a long time. YMMV if you are a bargain hunter. Apple is still there too.
Hobby Cat 55
12-06-23, 10:56
Thank you HC. Just give it all to mamasan?Depends on who takes you back. Pretty sure at Magic the girl that answers the door is your girl not MM. Last time Ruby took me back and just handed her over $200 and nothing else was said for the FS event. Pound on, HC.
Never mind. Closed.I called today and a girl answered the phone. Why do you think it's closed?
For those that plan ahead, how far in advance do you call for an appointment? When arriving at the appointment time, are they ready for you without waiting?
Thanks.
Also, if you just show up (walk in), do you ever get turned away?
For those that plan ahead, how far in advance do you call for an appointment? When arriving at the appointment time, are they ready for you without waiting?
Thanks.
Also, if you just show up (walk in), do you ever get turned away?I have been turned away on rare occasions if I don't make a plan in advance. I usually figure out how far away I am and I'll call or text to see if someone will be available at that time and so far that method has worked out well. If they are to busy they have always let me know. If I request a certain provider, most places will let me know what time that person is going to be available but it doesn't work at all AMPs because of rotation. If you frequent the AMP, the chances are much better.
SandersNut
12-06-23, 13:09
Is that no AA rule still in play? Have any AA men seen her? I'm curious about her but I noticed that blurb on her post.Pre COVID I had to check her out for myself. Called asked her rate and told her I was hh away. She told me she was available. We never discussed my race. When I showed up she paused and said oh, you called. I said yes and followed her in. I'm a fit, clean cut 60 why / o professional that most providers guess to be mid 40's. The saying YMMV applies to all these providers. She's not the first to post no AA but take me on as a client. These hoes just want to be respected.
Happy hunting.
SN.
For those that plan ahead, how far in advance do you call for an appointment? When arriving at the appointment time, are they ready for you without waiting?
Thanks.
Also, if you just show up (walk in), do you ever get turned away?Why would you expect that someone, anyone, especially in this day and age, is just sitting there waiting for you? Many of these places have only one or 2 ladies working and it's at least a 50/50 chance that 1 or both are busy. Always, always call ahead, or roll the dice and possibly waste your time.
If the issue is not wanting to have a phone number be on your phone bill, use a Google voice or other phone / text app to avoid this. And if you do call ahead, say you are coming, and don't show without explanation, these ladies will black list you and also share your number with other ladies at other AMPs. They have their forums, just like we do here, yo talk about the good and bad about mongers as well.
So unless you are truly in the area, or you have time to waste, always call or schedule ahead. Even if you are calling hours or a day ahead, as long as you show you are serious and even maybe follow up with them, they will hold your time and not take other walk ins.
SpasRhealing
12-06-23, 14:25
I was wondering if anyone has seen her, or if she's one of Natalie's girls. Pm is fine.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/3250323Looking for feedback also anyone try her out yet.
SpasRhealing
12-06-23, 14:27
Any feedback back on the below.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/3220161
Not my words but a confession I found online.
I know it's just her job, but she does it really well! She makes me feel so good about myself. She tells me I'm handsome and that I have a beautiful smile. I don't care if she's lying to me or pretending. It was the first time anyone has ever said that to me. At first I was confused. I'm not used to people complimenting me, so I wasn't sure how to respond but to smile big and wide. When I think about it now, I cry a little bit. I dunno. It just felt so good to be desirable, wanted, like I had some worth to someone. And I love to talk to her. I got to know her really well and she I (if that made any sense). Sometimes she calls me and talks about her day, the good and the bad. She has some pretty interesting clients. Some weird. Well, most weird. Some bad. Some handsome. Some not so much. Sometimes I tell her what Afghanistan was like. How the army kinda sucks. Typical things. But I love listening to her voice. There's like this melody to it, as if it were like a song. A beautiful cadence that I can't quite place my finger on why it makes me feel calm.
She sings beautifully. Maybe that's why I love listening to her. She loves to sing the blues, soul, and dabbles in R&B. She's too embarrassed to do anything with her talent. I do my best to encourage her, I really do. But for now she's fine with singing to her friends and I. And to her dog too. She has a beautiful soul, she's so kind, and Jesus Christ she can make me laugh! I'm so happy there is such a person in existence, that I have the pleasure of knowing her. She's going to make someone very happy one day, and I pray that whoever that person is makes her even happier.
But for now, she humors me and I her. She brings such a light into my life I've never thought possible. Now I notice things I've never bothered to pay attention to. The air here smells like perfume that tickles my nose, the summer breeze feels like a gentle caress against my cheek, I hear so many sounds, of birds, the voices of the people around me, bugs flying here and there, of dogs barking and cars whizzing by me. I've never been so happy before. It feels so good to love someone. It's pathetic to say, but hey, we're strangers on the internet. I once asked her to say I love you. I closed my eyes and listened. I cried a lot. I'm sure I terrified her because she was apologizing so much. But I told her it's what I wanted. I've always wanted to know what it sounded like. You know, coming from someone else. It's fun to pretend.
I feel pretty complete now. There's nothing else I want. I was planning on ending my life once my contract with the army was done. But I read that the SGLI pays out to suicides after two years of service, and I've served a total of three. So I'll enjoy my time with her as long as I can. I'll add her as a beneficiary to my plan. Not all of it will go to her, of course. But the amount she will get should allow her to live comfortably for a little bit.
For once, everything is going to be alright.
Smashing1979
12-06-23, 14:40
Does anyone know if there any FS places open late at night? I'm making a very brief trip and I was hoping to stop by while I'm in town. I had a really good experience at Magic last time, but it looks like they're only open til 10 pm. I'm not sure I'll be able to make it in time. Are there any places in town that cater to night owl hours?Gold Star opens until 10 but I was able to call ahead one time and ask if I could come at 11. Lisa was able to stay later and accommodate me. Probably not the case for most places, but doesn't hurt to ask. Just don't leave them hanging if they go out of their way to stay for you.
Smashing1979
12-06-23, 14:42
For those that plan ahead, how far in advance do you call for an appointment? When arriving at the appointment time, are they ready for you without waiting?
Thanks.
Also, if you just show up (walk in), do you ever get turned away?These places will "accept" your appointment almost always. But often times, a monger will come right before when your appointment and take your time slot, and you're left waiting anyway even if you made an appointment. These AMPs won't turn away a sure thing and sure money. There are a lot of no-shows for appointments too so I can't blame them.
Smashing1979
12-06-23, 14:43
Depends on who takes you back. Pretty sure at Magic the girl that answers the door is your girl not MM. Last time Ruby took me back and just handed her over $200 and nothing else was said for the FS event. Pound on, HC.Ruby is great. Is she still at Magic or did she go with Lisa to Gold Star?
BackRoom Bob
12-06-23, 15:27
Last visit to the nuru lady I had her on her back eating her and moved up to rub Jr on her kitty. Rubbed her kitty around with Jr and the rubbed out a nut on her shaved box and smeared it all over her. I could have easily plunged in but I draw the line at pussy jobs and oral as I'm married. I don't do FS with anyone but the misses. She def open for it I'm sure. May take a few visits as I've been seeing her for a few years now.I am a semi-regular visitor. I enjoy all of the things that she offers. Body slide is great. Hydro massage was great. Lingam massage is super. What makes everything great is that she has such a great attitude and provides service with a smile. A few months back, I was getting a great body slide when she started giving me a very enthusiastic BBBJ. After a few minutes she laid on the table and I was on top of her rubbing my tool up and down her body. I could have slipped it into her I think, during her slide. But then I just told her that I wanted FS. She giggled and said $250. Since I was already at the $180 point of services I said ok. This lady gets into it. If you enjoy her motions during the slide, you will love her FS actions. Definitely not a dead fish. Once again, money can open up a door that was previously closed. YMMV of course. But it never hurts to just make an offer.
Smashing1979
12-06-23, 17:24
I am a semi-regular visitor. I enjoy all of the things that she offers. Body slide is great. Hydro massage was great. Lingam massage is super. What makes everything great is that she has such a great attitude and provides service with a smile. A few months back, I was getting a great body slide when she started giving me a very enthusiastic BBBJ. After a few minutes she laid on the table and I was on top of her rubbing my tool up and down her body. I could have slipped it into her I think, during her slide. But then I just told her that I wanted FS. She giggled and said $250. Since I was already at the $180 point of services I said ok. This lady gets into it. If you enjoy her motions during the slide, you will love her FS actions. Definitely not a dead fish. Once again, money can open up a door that was previously closed. YMMV of course. But it never hurts to just make an offer.Was this BBFS or covered?
CarmeloJoe35
12-06-23, 19:36
I am a semi-regular visitor. I enjoy all of the things that she offers. Body slide is great. Hydro massage was great. Lingam massage is super. What makes everything great is that she has such a great attitude and provides service with a smile. A few months back, I was getting a great body slide when she started giving me a very enthusiastic BBBJ. After a few minutes she laid on the table and I was on top of her rubbing my tool up and down her body. I could have slipped it into her I think, during her slide. But then I just told her that I wanted FS. She giggled and said $250. Since I was already at the $180 point of services I said ok. This lady gets into it. If you enjoy her motions during the slide, you will love her FS actions. Definitely not a dead fish. Once again, money can open up a door that was previously closed. YMMV of course. But it never hurts to just make an offer.I wonder what she was like 30 years ago or even 20 years ago.
I am a semi-regular visitor. I enjoy all of the things that she offers. Body slide is great. Hydro massage was great. Lingam massage is super. What makes everything great is that she has such a great attitude and provides service with a smile. A few months back, I was getting a great body slide when she started giving me a very enthusiastic BBBJ. After a few minutes she laid on the table and I was on top of her rubbing my tool up and down her body. I could have slipped it into her I think, during her slide. But then I just told her that I wanted FS. She giggled and said $250. Since I was already at the $180 point of services I said ok. This lady gets into it. If you enjoy her motions during the slide, you will love her FS actions. Definitely not a dead fish. Once again, money can open up a door that was previously closed. YMMV of course. But it never hurts to just make an offer.Sounds great but I have to see a pic of her with all my searching. The only thing I found is number belongs to 76 year old female. I will be downriver soon so hopefully I can get some photos first. One review described her as shrek? LOL.
Sounds great but I have to see a pic of her with all my searching. The only thing I found is number belongs to 76 year old female. I will be downriver soon so hopefully I can get some photos first. One review described her as shrek? LOL.Considering she was born during the abolitionist movement, she doesn't look half bad.
Didn't get the chance to go see Ruby today so went to We Spa. Another great massage and fantastic HE. She had me up on my knees and was reaching between my legs tugging on my Johnson. It felt so good I had to flip. She really knows how to slowly and sensually work it. Funny thing is during the massage out of the blue she asks me where else I visit then says have you heard of Allcare. LOL.
I called today and a girl answered the phone. Why do you think it's closed?Nobody there, barren lobby, locked door with a real estate card taped to the door. Was the number forwarded to their other locations?
Didn't get the chance to go see Ruby today so went to We Spa. Another great massage and fantastic HE. She had me up on my knees and was reaching between my legs tugging on my Johnson. It felt so good I had to flip. She really knows how to slowly and sensually work it. Funny thing is during the massage out of the blue she asks me where else I visit then says have you heard of Allcare. LOL.Was here last week. Amazing firm massage, really great for back and shoulder tightness. Calf muscles got a painful workout too.
Saw a good report on this new place in Rochester in the Escort forum (address right in the ad).
Anyone else try? https://skipthegames.com/posts/dearborn/female-escorts/asian/gfebbbj69b2b248-805-2943new-fe/364310445471.
Might TOFTT soon.Went tonight (Wed). Very quiet area, stones throw from Crittenden hospital. Met by Lulu 35-40 ish Round faced Korean lady. Kinda stocky but nice. Upbeat music playing.
Lead to small clean room with a flat bed with hole for your face, LED strip lights. Small table with cubbies for towels and lotion. Hook on back of door, small didn't hold pants so laid them on the chair. Strip down and lay down. Pay house fee, 80. Lulu comes back and begins nice massage. Asked for medium but could have gone hard with no problem. She asked if lotion was ok, said yes. But noted that it was not sent free. Massaged shoulders, neck, back. Legs. Left socks on cause I was cold. She did slightly cover me before massage started but cover was lost somewhere during. Massaged glutes, legs. Arms. Was ok but have had better. Left to get hot towel, returned with small towel. She switched to light fingers on back, butt, taint, and legs. Had me flip and massaged chest and move to give jr some attention. Got a handy and did some OTC roaming. Tried to go under but was rebuffed. Finished and she got a towel to clean up. She left room and I got dressed. Gave 50 for tip. She was very friendly and appreciative of tip. Seems to indicate more was available for more $ and made a sucking sound and lip licking. I know the other girl was named Mimi so she wasn't alone there. Might visit again to see if more is there. It won't last long given it's Rochester but had some fun without going to Sterling heights or some other far away location.
Not my words but a confession I found online.Couldn't find any such post from anonymous.
Gold Star opens until 10 but I was able to call ahead one time and ask if I could come at 11. Lisa was able to stay later and accommodate me. Probably not the case for most places, but doesn't hurt to ask. Just don't leave them hanging if they go out of their way to stay for you.It doesn't hurt to call and ask. Once, JC turned the lights in the window and lobby off at closing time, but then waited 45 minutes beyond closing, until I arrived. Then again, I was pretty regular and they knew that I would tip them beyond the usual for their kindness. They offered to do that a few times.
CarmeloJoe35
12-07-23, 08:21
Didn't get the chance to go see Ruby today so went to We Spa. Another great massage and fantastic HE. She had me up on my knees and was reaching between my legs tugging on my Johnson. It felt so good I had to flip. She really knows how to slowly and sensually work it. Funny thing is during the massage out of the blue she asks me where else I visit then says have you heard of Allcare. LOL.If WeSpa girls are asking about Allcare, I wonder if they are feeling you out as a customer to see what you'll pay for more service or to see how safe you are or a number of other things. Who was your provider there?
Does she have plain ole massage massage without the fancy hydo, nuru. Just massage and play? If so diff rate? Thanks.
Sounds great but I have to see a pic of her with all my searching. The only thing I found is number belongs to 76 year old female. I will be downriver soon so hopefully I can get some photos first. One review described her as shrek? LOL.
Does she have plain ole massage massage without the fancy hydo, nuru. Just massage and play? If so diff rate? Thanks.Been reading alot of posts about this lady but no one has given an accurate description of her. Based on the service described it sounds like a very good time. I have read conflicting reports on her. One says she is 70. Another claims she is 51. Some say she has nice tits. I guess I want to know generally what to expect. Ball park height weight. Tits. Are the b c d cups? Build. Slender. Thick. Overweight. Sounds like she has great personality and skills. But would just love a better picture of what to expect when she opens the door. I also have read place is clean. She is apparently a non smoker. Also curious about the lingham massage. That sounds appealing and maybe better than the nuru.
LostInDetroit
12-07-23, 14:42
Went tonight (Wed). Very quiet area, stones throw from Crittenden hospital. Met by Lulu 35-40 ish Round faced Korean lady. Kinda stocky but nice. Upbeat music playing.
Lead to small clean room with a flat bed with hole for your face, LED strip lights. Small table with cubbies for towels and lotion. Hook on back of door, small didn't hold pants so laid them on the chair. Strip down and lay down. Pay house fee, 80. Lulu comes back and begins nice massage. Asked for medium but could have gone hard with no problem. She asked if lotion was ok, said yes. But noted that it was not sent free. Massaged shoulders, neck, back. Legs. Left socks on cause I was cold. She did slightly cover me before massage started but cover was lost somewhere during. Massaged glutes, legs. Arms. Was ok but have had better. Left to get hot towel, returned with small towel. She switched to light fingers on back, butt, taint, and legs. Had me flip and massaged chest and move to give jr some attention. Got a handy and did some OTC roaming. Tried to go under but was rebuffed. Finished and she got a towel to clean up. She left room and I got dressed. Gave 50 for tip. She was very friendly and appreciative of tip. Seems to indicate more was available for more $ and made a sucking sound and lip licking. I know the other girl was named Mimi so she wasn't alone there. Might visit again to see if more is there. It won't last long given it's Rochester but had some fun without going to Sterling heights or some other far away location.Can confirm Spike's report. Went a few weeks ago as soon as it was revealed to be a FS joint. Drew a girl named Ipa (pronounced Eee Puh). Cuteish 20-30 something but not entirely attracted to her but she would do in a pinch. Asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes as I heard there was a little bit of fun to be had in the shower prior to getting to the massage. Best I can say there is that it is indeed a shower (and not a table shower) and just wasn't exactly all that fun to report on. That said, she did make sure I was washed down and clean so there's that. Get to the room and does the usual AMP style massage. A little backrub with some minor pressure, massage of the glutes and legs and then right before the flip she switches off the lights and starts with the fingertip tease on my balls, butthole and pretty much anywhere else she can arouse me. I call it the "sales pitch" as every AMP provider does this these days (at least from my experience). Anyways, we get to the flip and she asks me what I want and I tell her everything. She asks how much I had and I tell her $160. She smiles and nods and says she'll be right back. 2 minutes later she shows up with a party hat and we're off to the races. Downside with Ipa is that the whole session was very mechanical. No DFK, FIV or pretty much anything that wasn't PIV. 2 positions later she starts to complain that I'm taking too long and tries to jerk me off to finish me up. I toss her back onto the table and finish her off in mish. Afterwards, she got some hot towels to clean me up and wraps up the session with a light massage on my chest and legs.
All in all, not bad for $240 all in, but I feel like I could get better from cuter looking providers for just a tiny bit extra (Day Spa in Shelby immediately comes to mind). Ipa mentioned she was only there until the end of November but plans to come back once every few months (as long as the joint still exists). She claims she's from New York (or at the very least her boss is from NY) so this might be the same group of girls that are touring MI like Anna was a few months back. Lastly, to add to Spike's comments, I don't think this place is going to get shut down anytime soon. Granted, yes it's in Rochester and the fuzz out there is always looking for a bust (mainly because they're bored like the Troy cops are) but it's pretty well hidden off the main roads and as long as the other building tenants don't complain, this place should survive for a while. As always, YMMV and stay safe.
GoodTimer88
12-07-23, 15:41
Been reading alot of posts about this lady but no one has given an accurate description of her. Based on the service described it sounds like a very good time. I have read conflicting reports on her. One says she is 70. Another claims she is 51. Some say she has nice tits. I guess I want to know generally what to expect. Ball park height weight. Tits. Are the b c d cups? Build. Slender. Thick. Overweight. Sounds like she has great personality and skills. But would just love a better picture of what to expect when she opens the door. I also have read place is clean. She is apparently a non smoker. Also curious about the lingham massage. That sounds appealing and maybe better than the nuru.If you are concerned with looks, you should pass on her. I see once in a while, but definitely not for looks.
SilentHeyDude
12-07-23, 15:44
Does anyone have her contact info? Would be greatly appreciated if you could send me a PM with that information.
Thanks.
If WeSpa girls are asking about Allcare, I wonder if they are feeling you out as a customer to see what you'll pay for more service or to see how safe you are or a number of other things. Who was your provider there?Tina is her name. I can guarantee nothing more is to be had there. I think she might have heard from another hobbyist or maybe she's reading some of the forums.
SilentHeyDude
12-07-23, 16:35
Weed greatly enhances everything.What kind of flower is good for that?
DarkKnight23
12-07-23, 18:21
Not my words but a confession I found online.Man that's so sad to read. I pray someone encourages him to get help he needs before its too late.
Weed greatly enhances everything.Including the traffic fine and penalty if you get pulled over.
Been reading alot of posts about this lady but no one has given an accurate description of her. Based on the service described it sounds like a very good time. I have read conflicting reports on her. One says she is 70. Another claims she is 51. Some say she has nice tits. I guess I want to know generally what to expect. Ball park height weight. Tits. Are the b c d cups? Build. Slender. Thick. Overweight. Sounds like she has great personality and skills. But would just love a better picture of what to expect when she opens the door. I also have read place is clean. She is apparently a non smoker. Also curious about the lingham massage. That sounds appealing and maybe better than the nuru.Think Shrek. Seriously. An older Shrek. The people that go see her have absolutely no concern about looks.
CarpetMunchr69
12-08-23, 02:07
Been hobbying for 12 years ans finally made my way down to see her. You are in the middle of a BUSY subdivision street. I parked in her driveway, towards the back of the driveway where a single car garage is in the backyard. Not discreet at all.
She looks like an asexual odd looking asian lady who is probably mid 60's. Her body isn't bad but nothing exciting. Massage was mediocre at best. I thought I was going to get a nuru massage but she just sucked on me for a bit and then switched to mish. Will not repeat.
Been reading alot of posts about this lady but no one has given an accurate description of her. Based on the service described it sounds like a very good time. I have read conflicting reports on her. One says she is 70. Another claims she is 51. Some say she has nice tits. I guess I want to know generally what to expect. Ball park height weight. Tits. Are the b c d cups? Build. Slender. Thick. Overweight. Sounds like she has great personality and skills. But would just love a better picture of what to expect when she opens the door. I also have read place is clean. She is apparently a non smoker. Also curious about the lingham massage. That sounds appealing and maybe better than the nuru.
CountryBoi3575
12-08-23, 06:46
I've been reading about 200 at these places. Is there a house fee on top of that?I remember the days 200 would get you a couple hours at M1.
Anyone Remer the blonde that was doing massages in waterford. Been a long time, she used to work out of those apartments on the far side by white lake and then moved to a house in waterford close to clarkston. She was always a good time.
Been hobbying for 12 years ans finally made my way down to see her. You are in the middle of a BUSY subdivision street. I parked in her driveway, towards the back of the driveway where a single car garage is in the backyard. Not discreet at all.
She looks like an asexual odd looking asian lady who is probably mid 60's. Her body isn't bad but nothing exciting. Massage was mediocre at best. I thought I was going to get a nuru massage but she just sucked on me for a bit and then switched to mish. Will not repeat.I have seen her several times over the years. Always provides good service and has a good attitude. Nobody ever said she is a Playboy model. However, she isn't Shrek. If you wanted a nuru you should have requested it when you made your appointment. She has other services too. It appears there was a lack of communication.
Man that's so sad to read. I pray someone encourages him to get help he needs before its too late.Sad indeed. That's all we can do.
There's a disturbing report for South Eastern Michigan. Be safe out there.
There's a disturbing report for South Eastern Michigan. Be safe out there.Ellaborate? Which one the raid at quality Asian?
Eaton Beaver
12-08-23, 19:43
There's a disturbing report for South Eastern Michigan. Be safe out there.If true, that raid is way past due. The location and setup is all wrong for an AMP.
Ellaborate? Which one the raid at quality Asian?http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3597-Massage-Parlor-Reports
Think Shrek. Seriously. An older Shrek. The people that go see her have absolutely no concern about looks.I concur with Riker. The best way to enjoy Downriver Nuru and Bonita (both highly reviewed over here) is to close your eyes and think about your neighbor while they do their job! Service 10/10, anything else no comments.
OnAnonAnon
12-09-23, 14:42
Nobody there, barren lobby, locked door with a real estate card taped to the door. Was the number forwarded to their other locations?
Phone is not forwarded. Low profile because they are so darned close to Stevenson High School!
Final Fantasy
12-09-23, 15:58
I used to be able to use the search somewhat, but 50% of the time, would have issues such as "no results" or "your search topic is too broad, narrow it down".
Now I can't get any results, no matter what I search. It's been an issue for me for a couple weeks at least. Is this a problem that others are experiencing? For example, searching "Thai Massage Farmington" or "thai massage farmington HE" both return no results for whatever reason. I thought I read at some point that you are supposed to eliminate the space between words to get better results. Is that true?
Trying to find an A+ Thai massage or PP A+ massage, with the most basic of HE. I'm bored of the Chinese joints, and Bonita and the like allegedly don't really provide a massage as such.
I used to be able to use the search somewhat, but 50% of the time, would have issues such as "no results" or "your search topic is too broad, narrow it down".
Now I can't get any results, no matter what I search. It's been an issue for me for a couple weeks at least. Is this a problem that others are experiencing? For example, searching "Thai Massage Farmington" or "thai massage farmington HE" both return no results for whatever reason. I thought I read at some point that you are supposed to eliminate the space between words to get better results. Is that true?
Trying to find an A+ Thai massage or PP A+ massage, with the most basic of HE. I'm bored of the Chinese joints, and Bonita and the like allegedly don't really provide a massage as such.It seems the search function is very rudimentary. Try using no more than two words of at least 4 characters.
Forty Four
12-10-23, 21:40
I used to be able to use the search somewhat, but 50% of the time, would have issues such as "no results" or "your search topic is too broad, narrow it down".
Now I can't get any results, no matter what I search. It's been an issue for me for a couple weeks at least. Is this a problem that others are experiencing? For example, searching "Thai Massage Farmington" or "thai massage farmington HE" both return no results for whatever reason. I thought I read at some point that you are supposed to eliminate the space between words to get better results. Is that true?
Trying to find an A+ Thai massage or PP A+ massage, with the most basic of HE. I'm bored of the Chinese joints, and Bonita and the like allegedly don't really provide a massage as such.Search engines often use quote or double-quote to mean exact match (for example the exact phrase "Thai Massage Farmington" . Your post here uses double-quotes to describe what you are searching for, and I'm guessing that you used quotes in your search string. When I searched for Thai Massage Farmington (without the quotes), I got 67 hits.
I found that I have better luck using Advanced Search specifying Search in Forum = Detroit, or using the Search Thread option (just above and to the right of where the webpage says: This forum thread is moderated by Admin.
I only use a computer, (Chrome Browser) not a phone, and have no clue if a phone is different.
I concur with Riker. The best way to enjoy Downriver Nuru and Bonita (both highly reviewed over here) is to close your eyes and think about your neighbor while they do their job! Service 10/10, anything else no comments.I agree Bonita being about 60 now is just too flabby for me too visit anymore.
Nuru lady is a troll, saw her once.
I used to be able to use the search somewhat, but 50% of the time, would have issues such as "no results" or "your search topic is too broad, narrow it down".
Now I can't get any results, no matter what I search. It's been an issue for me for a couple weeks at least. Is this a problem that others are experiencing? For example, searching "Thai Massage Farmington" or "thai massage farmington HE" both return no results for whatever reason. I thought I read at some point that you are supposed to eliminate the space between words to get better results. Is that true?
Trying to find an A+ Thai massage or PP A+ massage, with the most basic of HE. I'm bored of the Chinese joints, and Bonita and the like allegedly don't really provide a massage as such.Less is more. Try searching for Farmington or Thai first. If that yields too many results add additional words. The search feature is likely trying to satisfy all of your words exactly like you typed them in, so the results are nothing if there isn't an exact match. Try less words and you may get more results, but possibly more scrolling.
Happy searching!
I can now confirm that the same "Lia" from 1717 is the same woman that is now the next lot over at 33433. It purposely looks vacant but it definitely isn't. YMMV.
I used to be able to use the search somewhat, but 50% of the time, would have issues such as "no results" or "your search topic is too broad, narrow it down".
Now I can't get any results, no matter what I search. It's been an issue for me for a couple weeks at least. Is this a problem that others are experiencing? For example, searching "Thai Massage Farmington" or "thai massage farmington HE" both return no results for whatever reason. I thought I read at some point that you are supposed to eliminate the space between words to get better results. Is that true?
Trying to find an A+ Thai massage or PP A+ massage, with the most basic of HE. I'm bored of the Chinese joints, and Bonita and the like allegedly don't really provide a massage as such.Rather than try to analyze the search engine. Here is a more direct answer. The thai places are generally not HE friendly. Some have reported success after multiple visits.
This is an AMP on Auburn Rd, west of Rochester Road. About 100 feet west of the McDonald's.
Great massage with light teasing until the flip. Then DIY with a nice assist. Attractive staff. Up to 3 therapists, depending when you visit.
$70 hr. Service worth a $35 to $50 tip.
CarmeloJoe35
12-12-23, 01:54
Went to see Bella over the weekend. Turns out I know her as Alice in Dearborn Allcare. LOL. She was at the Dearborn location for a while. Bella is in her 20's. Speaks good English. Smart. She likes to smile and it seems very genuine. Very nice personality. Great body. Just very pleasant. Very pretty. Wants to please. I was there the whole hour, which is a first at those kind of places. Did everything covered. Highly recommend. Treat her well.
HungaryMan
12-12-23, 02:36
Went to see Bella over the weekend. Turns out I know her as Alice in Dearborn Allcare. LOL. She was at the Dearborn location for a while. Bella is in her 20's. Speaks good English. Smart. She likes to smile and it seems very genuine. Very nice personality. Great body. Just very pleasant. Very pretty. Wants to please. I was there the whole hour, which is a first at those kind of places. Did everything covered. Highly recommend. Treat her well.What city is All Green located in?
JohannBach
12-12-23, 08:48
Went to see Bella over the weekend. Turns out I know her as Alice in Dearborn Allcare. LOL. She was at the Dearborn location for a while. Bella is in her 20's. Speaks good English. Smart. She likes to smile and it seems very genuine. Very nice personality. Great body. Just very pleasant. Very pretty. Wants to please. I was there the whole hour, which is a first at those kind of places. Did everything covered. Highly recommend. Treat her well.Similar experience with Bella. A full menu is available. Nice girl. I'd rate the looks / body 6 out of 10. I'll likely repeat. This place is located in Beverly Hills.
McNastyNasty
12-12-23, 13:50
I dreamed about this place a week or so ago. I believe to have had the same chunky Chinese gal dream a previous monger had. She is at least mid to late 40's and make up makes her appear young.
Used to have man made boobs but only scars are left. She was not worth a penny. Always saying to big, not one bit enthusiastic excuse after excuse to get to hand work fast. Did not see any of the other girls.
This place won't last long at all. A guy came in and asked to see her vag before paying for massage. She said money first. Only a matter of time before LEO gets on them.
I'm seeing this one on Craigslist and I'm pretty sure others have reported that's she offers massage only with no HE. However, I see she's now offering manscaping which I think may open things up a bit. I mean, if she's handling your junk already is it to far a stretch to assume there may be a HE? Anyone see her recently, what's her name?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bts/d/commerce-township-incredible-massage/7696821662.html
Anyone ever try this one? Itching to try but can't find reviews anywhere.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/babe-your-looking-for-the-best/59528644
Went to see Bella over the weekend. Turns out I know her as Alice in Dearborn Allcare. LOL. She was at the Dearborn location for a while. Bella is in her 20's. Speaks good English. Smart. She likes to smile and it seems very genuine. Very nice personality. Great body. Just very pleasant. Very pretty. Wants to please. I was there the whole hour, which is a first at those kind of places. Did everything covered. Highly recommend. Treat her well.Do you have a link to her ad?
CarmeloJoe35
12-12-23, 22:04
I dreamed about this place a week or so ago. I believe to have had the same chunky Chinese gal dream a previous monger had. She is at least mid to late 40's and make up makes her appear young.
Used to have man made boobs but only scars are left. She was not worth a penny. Always saying to big, not one bit enthusiastic excuse after excuse to get to hand work fast. Did not see any of the other girls.
This place won't last long at all. A guy came in and asked to see her vag before paying for massage. She said money first. Only a matter of time before LEO gets on them.I examined every part of her body and don't see any scars around her tits at all.
I can now confirm that the same "Lia" from 1717 is the same woman that is now the next lot over at 33433. It purposely looks vacant but it definitely isn't. YMMV.Next lot over?
Next lot over?Six mile rd behind shell.
Smashing1979
12-13-23, 11:23
Does anyone have any recommendations for the hottest older provider?
I'm talking 50+. I've seen the popular ones in that range like Tiffany and Bonita, and they look great in that age range.
Just wanted to see what else was out there?
Please note, I'm looking for old and hot (not merely old like down river nuru).
Can confirm Spike's report. Went a few weeks ago as soon as it was revealed to be a FS joint. Drew a girl named Ipa (pronounced Eee Puh). Cuteish 20-30 something but not entirely attracted to her but she would do in a pinch. Asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes as I heard there was a little bit of fun to be had in the shower prior to getting to the massage. Best I can say there is that it is indeed a shower (and not a table shower) and just wasn't exactly all that fun to report on. That said, she did make sure I was washed down and clean so there's that. Get to the room and does the usual AMP style massage. A little backrub with some minor pressure, massage of the glutes and legs and then right before the flip she switches off the lights and starts with the fingertip tease on my balls, butthole and pretty much anywhere else she can arouse me. I call it the "sales pitch" as every AMP provider does this these days (at least from my experience). Anyways, we get to the flip and she asks me what I want and I tell her everything. She asks how much I had and I tell her $160. She smiles and nods and says she'll be right back. 2 minutes later she shows up with a party hat and we're off to the races. Downside with Ipa is that the whole session was very mechanical. No DFK, FIV or pretty much anything that wasn't PIV. 2 positions later she starts to complain that I'm taking too long and tries to jerk me off to finish me up. I toss her back onto the table and finish her off in mish. Afterwards, she got some hot towels to clean me up and wraps up the session with a light massage on my chest and legs.
All in all, not bad for $240 all in, but I feel like I could get better from cuter looking providers for just a tiny bit extra (Day Spa in Shelby immediately comes to mind). Ipa mentioned she was only there until the end of November but plans to come back once every few months (as long as the joint still exists). She claims she's from New York (or at the very least her boss is from NY) so this might be the same group of girls that are touring MI like Anna was a few months back. Lastly, to add to Spike's comments, I don't think this place is going to get shut down anytime soon. Granted, yes it's in Rochester and the fuzz out there is always looking for a bust (mainly because they're bored like the Troy cops are) but it's pretty well hidden off the main roads and as long as the other building tenants don't complain, this place should survive for a while. As always, YMMV and stay safe.Went last week, and had a very similar experience.
I drew the rounder face woman, but on the way out, my provider and mamasan introduced me to a thinner, perhaps younger provider.
All three did the "hurry back to see us" thing on my way out, most all places do, but these three seemed way more emphatic.
My thought was that while I enjoyed, I have had better experiences.
Might go back if for no other reason than to experience the other provider (if she is still there).
I made my regular visit to Saigon this morning. I had some fun with Cindy. Afterward, Tiffany invited me to the Saigon Christmas party on December 22. Party runs from noon to 8 pm. Six girls available. Summer is white. Tiffany and Cindy are Asian. Anita, Lucky and Diamond are black. Special offer is 2 girls for price of one not including tips. $60 half hour and $100 for hour.
Hey all. Tried to search, but many Rose posts. Any feedback on this Rose? PM is good.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/161903857
I don't remember the last time that there such variety of parlors, especially those with expanded options.
McNastyNasty
12-13-23, 15:19
I examined every part of her body and don't see any scars around her tits at all.I only saw them when she was on her back. Not while cowboy. They must of been bigger because the scars are quite low / deep if.
That makes sens at all.
Been to New Life off of 5 mile in Livonia twice and while the massage was solid and playful, there was no HE. Seems like there would be here and maybe the older masseuse was just feeling me out, pardon the pun. Any of you get more than a standard massage at New Life?
HungaryMan
12-13-23, 17:39
Been to New Life off of 5 mile in Livonia twice and while the massage was solid and playful, there was no HE. Seems like there would be here and maybe the older masseuse was just feeling me out, pardon the pun. Any of you get more than a standard massage at New Life?Based on her flyer it would seem she is legit only.
EvanAdamson
12-13-23, 17:41
I dreamed about this place a week or so ago. I believe to have had the same chunky Chinese gal dream a previous monger had. She is at least mid to late 40's and make up makes her appear young.
Used to have man made boobs but only scars are left. She was not worth a penny. Always saying to big, not one bit enthusiastic excuse after excuse to get to hand work fast. Did not see any of the other girls.
This place won't last long at all. A guy came in and asked to see her vag before paying for massage. She said money first. Only a matter of time before LEO gets on them.I've dreamed of hearing a two Franklin quote plus the regular house fee. For 2/10 looks. Woke up as soon as I could and escaped the nightmare. The legends say that one can get a 30 min nuru and BBJ for half of that from an escort.
Saw a good report on this new place in Rochester in the Escort forum (address right in the ad).
Anyone else try? https://skipthegames.com/posts/dearborn/female-escorts/asian/gfebbbj69b2b248-805-2943new-fe/364310445471.
Might TOFTT soon.Same place. See the comment above.
GoodTimer88
12-13-23, 19:06
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Any feedback back on the below.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/3220161This number links to Metro Relaxation where I used to have some DIYs with some hot numbers. The old location went to shit after Tropical Tan took it over. I am not sure who is using this same number but its all over the place. I'd say use caution and report back!
BigBodyScottie
12-13-23, 19:37
I just noticed a new AMP in Washington. South of 30 mile rd across from Crave restaurant. It is in a small plaza. Any Intel yet?
NextThrowAway
12-13-23, 19:54
Just wanted to give people a heads up that I just drove past Seven Day in Mount Clemens and it looks like it's currently being raided. Shame was a great spot.
Eaton Beaver
12-13-23, 20:08
Does anyone have any recommendations for the hottest older provider?
I'm talking 50+. I've seen the popular ones in that range like Tiffany and Bonita, and they look great in that age range.
Just wanted to see what else was out there?
Please note, I'm looking for old and hot (not merely old like down river nuru).Micky at Lucky Spa in Jackson. She's on every AMP fan's bucket list.
GoodTimer88
12-13-23, 20:26
Can anyone confirm if Downriver Nuru is using a milking table? Or anyone else for that matter. Really want to try it. In case you don't know, it's basically a hole in the table where your junk hangs down and you get serviced from below. PM is fine if anyone knows of any. Thank you.
Just wanted to give people a heads up that I just drove past Seven Day in Mount Clemens and it looks like it's currently being raided. Shame was a great spot.Wow, can anyone else confirm this?
The original home of GFE Queen Anna and with pretty good follow-up talent too. One of my favorite spots.
SkinDogToo
12-13-23, 22:58
This number links to Metro Relaxation where I used to have some DIYs with some hot numbers. The old location went to shit after Tropical Tan took it over. I am not sure who is using this same number but its all over the place. I'd say use caution and report back!This is the old riki off of Dixie. They moved to the strip on telegraph across from where summit place mall was. I am from the Eastside so difficult for me to TOFTT. But I'd like to give it a try. I think it's hit or miss. YMMV.
CarmeloJoe35
12-14-23, 01:42
I've dreamed of hearing a two Franklin quote plus the regular house fee. For 2/10 looks. Woke up as soon as I could and escaped the nightmare. The legends say that one can get a 30 min nuru and BBJ for half of that from an escort.
Same place. See the comment above.Wrong town, too. Good grief.
Smashing1979
12-14-23, 10:03
Can anyone confirm if Downriver Nuru is using a milking table? Or anyone else for that matter. Really want to try it. In case you don't know, it's basically a hole in the table where your junk hangs down and you get serviced from below. PM is fine if anyone knows of any. Thank you.Bonita has one.
I made my regular visit to Saigon this morning. I had some fun with Cindy. Afterward, Tiffany invited me to the Saigon Christmas party on December 22. Party runs from noon to 8 pm. Six girls available. Summer is white. Tiffany and Cindy are Asian. Anita, Lucky and Diamond are black. Special offer is 2 girls for price of one not including tips. $60 half hour and $100 for hour.It's Cindy Ann Arbor Cindy or different? She can be found on tryst under massage if you're not familiar.
Just wanted to give people a heads up that I just drove past Seven Day in Mount Clemens and it looks like it's currently being raided. Shame was a great spot.What time of day did this happen?
I know the time a report gets on here doesn't always jive with the actual time it was written.
NextThrowAway
12-14-23, 12:51
What time of day did this happen?
I know the time a report gets on here doesn't always jive with the actual time it was written.This was about 6:30-7 pm. There was a few marked and unmarked LEO in the parking lot door was propped open and all the lights inside.
LostInDetroit
12-14-23, 13:13
Wow, can anyone else confirm this?
The original home of GFE Queen Anna and with pretty good follow-up talent too. One of my favorite spots.It always seems to happen to some of the best FS places in the area. Can't confirm this, but I'd be willing to bet that one of the businesses sharing that building most likely complained (or maybe a monger's wife / SO ratted them out to the cops). Either way it's a shame because Anna was arguably one of the best providers there before she left us. I miss her. I'll be honest I'm surprised that other FS places like Saigon haven't fallen to similar fates (especially considering so many of them hide in plain sight and don't really hide that well what goes on in said places). I know there have been a few that have fallen here and there but they are incredibly rare or they reopen a few months later under "new management" but with the same activities offered. Just weird that 7 Day was the one that got targeted.
Just wanted to give people a heads up that I just drove past Seven Day in Mount Clemens and it looks like it's currently being raided. Shame was a great spot.Just drove past thru it. The open sign is nowhere to be found there is still the note that says. Please Ring door bell. Push hard.
Anyone else has more info?
It always seems to happen to some of the best FS places in the area. Can't confirm this, but I'd be willing to bet that one of the businesses sharing that building most likely complained (or maybe a monger's wife / SO ratted them out to the cops). Either way it's a shame because Anna was arguably one of the best providers there before she left us. I miss her. I'll be honest I'm surprised that other FS places like Saigon haven't fallen to similar fates (especially considering so many of them hide in plain sight and don't really hide that well what goes on in said places). I know there have been a few that have fallen here and there but they are incredibly rare or they reopen a few months later under "new management" but with the same activities offered. Just weird that 7 Day was the one that got targeted.You stated the reasons why you think 7-Day may have been raided. Was there any particular reason you mentioned Saigon? It seems to me that would draw unwanted attention to that establishment or do you have some other inside information you should share with us.
JackMeeOff
12-14-23, 17:44
I'm seeing this one on Craigslist and I'm pretty sure others have reported that's she offers massage only with no HE. However, I see she's now offering manscaping which I think may open things up a bit. I mean, if she's handling your junk already is it to far a stretch to assume there may be a HE? Anyone see her recently, what's her name?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bts/d/commerce-township-incredible-massage/7696821662.htmlWaste of money and time.
SandersNut
12-14-23, 18:36
Waste of money and time.Details? How was the massage.
LostInDetroit
12-14-23, 23:11
You stated the reasons why you think 7-Day may have been raided. Was there any particular reason you mentioned Saigon? It seems to me that would draw unwanted attention to that establishment or do you have some other inside information you should share with us.Yes, I did mention what I thought could be my reasons, but I have no idea if any of those are what caused 7 Day to go down (could have been none of them for all I know). As it relates to Saigon, have you been there before? Its one of the WORST kept secrets for FS / extras in the area. Not only that, it's literally a stone's throw from Uncle LEO's house and has been in business for quite literally years. Ask any long time monger here on these boards and I'm pretty damn sure that they'd tell you that if Tiff and Co didn't get popped by now, they most likely never will be.
CarmeloJoe35
12-15-23, 00:09
Yes, I did mention what I thought could be my reasons, but I have no idea if any of those are what caused 7 Day to go down (could have been none of them for all I know). As it relates to Saigon, have you been there before? Its one of the WORST kept secrets for FS / extras in the area. Not only that, it's literally a stone's throw from Uncle LEO's house and has been in business for quite literally years. Ask any long time monger here on these boards and I'm pretty damn sure that they'd tell you that if Tiff and Co didn't get popped by now, they most likely never will be.Years ago I recall Tiffany saying something along those lines. I have no idea how it was handled or what exactly happened, but it's no mystery the popo know what's going up and down in there.
Yes, I did mention what I thought could be my reasons, but I have no idea if any of those are what caused 7 Day to go down (could have been none of them for all I know). As it relates to Saigon, have you been there before? Its one of the WORST kept secrets for FS / extras in the area. Not only that, it's literally a stone's throw from Uncle LEO's house and has been in business for quite literally years. Ask any long time monger here on these boards and I'm pretty damn sure that they'd tell you that if Tiff and Co didn't get popped by now, they most likely never will be.Yes, I've been going there since the days of it first opening. I knew her before she bought the place and I'm happy to know that you don't have inside information of something she should know about. Let's all be safe out there fellas.
Good morning! I'll be in Walled lake all week for work, any places or provate providers near this area? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
SamPerkins420
12-15-23, 11:05
Details? How was the massage.Disclaimer: I did not see her, but a good personal friend that I know IRL did. He said a crappy massage, she's fully dressed, there is religious stuff everywhere, and she wanted to talk the entire time about her kids & Jesus. Ultimate bait & switch ads.
Ezcumezgo80
12-15-23, 13:53
What's the total damage?Your mailbox is full.
McNastyNasty
12-15-23, 16:43
I just noticed a new AMP in Washington. South of 30 mile rd across from Crave restaurant. It is in a small plaza. Any Intel yet?Drove by yesterday. No lights on and door locked. When you google number it says 7 day spa. Maybe the raid in Mt Clemens and this are related.
I have been to Highland Massage. All of the reviews are true, nothing great, and they get mad if you don't give a big tip. Four Seasons is all right, but plan on getting a massage from an old woman. Of all of them, avoid Diamonds. Last time I was there, the massage was stopped multiple times by phone calls, people at the door, discussions in Chinese with other people. When I was asked if I wanted anything extra, I was so frustrated I just wanted to leave. Then, I was given a dirty look when I left a $20 tip. Never again will I go there.
M59 really needs some better AMP's.What did the talent look like at Diamond's massage, I was thinking about checking that place out but thinking not now!
BrettChase
12-15-23, 19:24
Hey All,
This is probably a long shot but I was curious if anyone knows of a reliable outcall masseuse.
I am not too concerned about cost.
PM if you prefer.
Thanks.
Eaton Beaver
12-15-23, 21:55
Yes, I did mention what I thought could be my reasons, but I have no idea if any of those are what caused 7 Day to go down (could have been none of them for all I know). As it relates to Saigon, have you been there before? Its one of the WORST kept secrets for FS / extras in the area. Not only that, it's literally a stone's throw from Uncle LEO's house and has been in business for quite literally years. Ask any long time monger here on these boards and I'm pretty damn sure that they'd tell you that if Tiff and Co didn't get popped by now, they most likely never will be.Don't tempt fate. We had a loooong time AMP in Toledo called Chang Mi. It was full service but never got busted. Like for 30 years. When others were being shut down, it just kept chugging along. Until September of this year.
I haven't been to this place in over 20 years. I know I should have expected some changes; but not like this. What had been a semi-dumpy place before has been transformed in a very beautiful and clean facility. Another change is the girls are much younger. Maybe the youngest in the area. I was greeted by Yumi. As I entered, I could see two other girls in skimpy outfits just waiting to please. All three girls were very hot!! Since Yumi's hand was on my ass, I decided to go with her. It was a very good decision. She led me down the hall to my room. She offered me a table shower and I accepted. I recall some very nice episodes on the Magic shower table and Yumi did not disappoint. My butt was definitely the cleanest in that zip code. Anyway, back in the room, I got on the table and watched Yumi prepared. She had on a very skimpy outfit that just begged to be removed. Yumi asked how I liked it and I chose hard. She climbed on the table and straddled my ass while she began working on me. Her fabulous hands worked my entire backside and flirted with my nuggets more than once. She asked me to flip and she noticed that I was definitely aroused. Her menu was pretty open. She dropped the skimpy outfit and I proceeded to have a great encounter. This was the best morning I have had in a long time. I will certainly return. I might repeat with Yumi but the other two looked interesting as well.
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Smashing1979
12-16-23, 09:58
I haven't been to this place in over 20 years. I know I should have expected some changes; but not like this. What had been a semi-dumpy place before has been transformed in a very beautiful and clean facility. Another change is the girls are much younger. Maybe the youngest in the area. I was greeted by Yumi. As I entered, I could see two other girls in skimpy outfits just waiting to please. All three girls were very hot!! Since Yumi's hand was on my ass, I decided to go with her. It was a very good decision. She led me down the hall to my room. She offered me a table shower and I accepted. I recall some very nice episodes on the Magic shower table and Yumi did not disappoint. My butt was definitely the cleanest in that zip code. Anyway, back in the room, I got on the table and watched Yumi prepared. She had on a very skimpy outfit that just begged to be removed. Yumi asked how I liked it and I chose hard. She climbed on the table and straddled my ass while she began working on me. Her fabulous hands worked my entire backside and flirted with my nuggets more than once. She asked me to flip and she noticed that I was definitely aroused. Her menu was pretty open. She dropped the skimpy outfit and I proceeded to have a great encounter. This was the best morning I have had in a long time. I will certainly return. I might repeat with Yumi but the other two looked interesting as well.Magic is a great place. Consistently good quality talent and sometimes excellent.
I remember getting this girl named Seven earlier in the year there. No lie, she was like a Korean model. Tall, young, and gorgeous. This place rotates often so I doubt we'll see her again soon.
I'd love to check them out again based on your review.
HungaryMan
12-16-23, 14:05
I haven't been to this place in over 20 years. I know I should have expected some changes; but not like this. What had been a semi-dumpy place before has been transformed in a very beautiful and clean facility. Another change is the girls are much younger. Maybe the youngest in the area. I was greeted by Yumi. As I entered, I could see two other girls in skimpy outfits just waiting to please. All three girls were very hot!! Since Yumi's hand was on my ass, I decided to go with her. It was a very good decision. She led me down the hall to my room. She offered me a table shower and I accepted. I recall some very nice episodes on the Magic shower table and Yumi did not disappoint. My butt was definitely the cleanest in that zip code. Anyway, back in the room, I got on the table and watched Yumi prepared. She had on a very skimpy outfit that just begged to be removed. Yumi asked how I liked it and I chose hard. She climbed on the table and straddled my ass while she began working on me. Her fabulous hands worked my entire backside and flirted with my nuggets more than once. She asked me to flip and she noticed that I was definitely aroused. Her menu was pretty open. She dropped the skimpy outfit and I proceeded to have a great encounter. This was the best morning I have had in a long time. I will certainly return. I might repeat with Yumi but the other two looked interesting as well.What was the session price?
I haven't been to this place in over 20 years. I know I should have expected some changes; but not like this. What had been a semi-dumpy place before has been transformed in a very beautiful and clean facility. Another change is the girls are much younger. Maybe the youngest in the area. I was greeted by Yumi. As I entered, I could see two other girls in skimpy outfits just waiting to please. All three girls were very hot!! Since Yumi's hand was on my ass, I decided to go with her. It was a very good decision. She led me down the hall to my room. She offered me a table shower and I accepted. I recall some very nice episodes on the Magic shower table and Yumi did not disappoint. My butt was definitely the cleanest in that zip code. Anyway, back in the room, I got on the table and watched Yumi prepared. She had on a very skimpy outfit that just begged to be removed. Yumi asked how I liked it and I chose hard. She climbed on the table and straddled my ass while she began working on me. Her fabulous hands worked my entire backside and flirted with my nuggets more than once. She asked me to flip and she noticed that I was definitely aroused. Her menu was pretty open. She dropped the skimpy outfit and I proceeded to have a great encounter. This was the best morning I have had in a long time. I will certainly return. I might repeat with Yumi but the other two looked interesting as well.Had the same experience with Yumi when I was there last month.
Would like to try a another girl if I go back. Does Ruby still work here? Or from the girls present which one is a must try?
I haven't been to this place in over 20 years. I know I should have expected some changes; but not like this. What had been a semi-dumpy place before has been transformed in a very beautiful and clean facility. Another change is the girls are much younger. Maybe the youngest in the area. I was greeted by Yumi. As I entered, I could see two other girls in skimpy outfits just waiting to please. All three girls were very hot!! Since Yumi's hand was on my ass, I decided to go with her. It was a very good decision. She led me down the hall to my room. She offered me a table shower and I accepted. I recall some very nice episodes on the Magic shower table and Yumi did not disappoint. My butt was definitely the cleanest in that zip code. Anyway, back in the room, I got on the table and watched Yumi prepared. She had on a very skimpy outfit that just begged to be removed. Yumi asked how I liked it and I chose hard. She climbed on the table and straddled my ass while she began working on me. Her fabulous hands worked my entire backside and flirted with my nuggets more than once. She asked me to flip and she noticed that I was definitely aroused. Her menu was pretty open. She dropped the skimpy outfit and I proceeded to have a great encounter. This was the best morning I have had in a long time. I will certainly return. I might repeat with Yumi but the other two looked interesting as well.I stopped going to Magic back then as well. I didn't like the 45 minute sessions and being stuck in the sauna for 10 minutes of it, then a rushed main event. Sounds like I need to get over the past.
Stopped by there after reading reports. Met by Lisa a beautiful young Asian who actually looked like the pictures on the AMP ads. Thin nice but and nice naturals. Had to wait about 15 minutes but received the whole hour. Nice thorough table shower then light massage. CBJ on the flip CFS mish cowgirl doggy and HJ. Then gave good massage for last 10-15 minutes. Anyone know if this is same Lisa from Magic? On the way out was introduced to Ruby who I'm pretty sure isn't the same as the Magic Ruby. Maybe they are running out of names LOL. Nice clean and new facility but it would seem the pharmacy next door might get a little concerned with the apparently increasing flow of men going there.Yes, Mojo, this is the same Lisa. As you stated she is hot and provides excellent service. I like to stop in on weekend mornings. To me, it seems like that is a slow period and I am not interrupted. Lisa gave me another stellar performance yesterday morning. As I was leaving, I met another girl there. I think her name was June. She looked hot as well. I will give her a whirl on my next visit.
MojoFallin
12-17-23, 12:09
Yes, Mojo, this is the same Lisa. As you stated she is hot and provides excellent service. I like to stop in on weekend mornings. To me, it seems like that is a slow period and I am not interrupted. Lisa gave me another stellar performance yesterday morning. As I was leaving, I met another girl there. I think her name was June. She looked hot as well. I will give her a whirl on my next visit.Last time I was there she said I should try new girl but didn't give me a name and I didn't see her.
I'll be in walled lake today, would be greatly appreciated if anyone new of a parlor or private provider in this area?! Looking for FS.
Whats the damage at Gold Star?
GruffSParty
12-18-23, 11:46
Whats the damage at Gold Star?The typical going rate today. $$20.
DetroitBaller
12-18-23, 13:21
BREAKING: MACOMB COUNTY SHERRIFS OFFICE TO PROVIDE UPDATE ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING RING BUST.
The Macomb County Sheriff's Office will be holding a 2:00 pm press conference this afternoon detailing 9 search warrants that were executed on December 13th to break up an alleged prostitution / human trafficking ring.
The MCSO says that the warrants were served at 5 Asian spas, two residential locations and 2 hotel / casino rooms.
More details to come from the 2:00 pm press conference.
BREAKING: MACOMB COUNTY SHERRIFS OFFICE TO PROVIDE UPDATE ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING RING BUST.
The Macomb County Sheriff's Office will be holding a 2:00 pm press conference this afternoon detailing 9 search warrants that were executed on December 13th to break up an alleged prostitution / human trafficking ring.
The MCSO says that the warrants were served at 5 Asian spas, two residential locations and 2 hotel / casino rooms.
More details to come from the 2:00 pm press conference.And if it plays out like warren ohio, there will be no charges in exchange for the tens of thousands of dollars the cops confiscated.
LostInDetroit
12-18-23, 15:26
And if it plays out like warren ohio, there will be no charges in exchange for the tens of thousands of dollars the cops confiscated.This might be a controversial take, but this is the reason why we should just legalize and decriminalize sex work. All it does it take money from consenting adults and gives it straight to the cops so they can buy more guns and armored cars for their precinct. There's so many positives for making sex work legal and yet, it'll never happen. As a somewhat related side note, I wonder what other places got popped as part of their operation.
Scratch that; just found the report. Here's the places that got raided:
• Seven Day Spa - 289 Southbound Gratiot, Mt. Clemens, MI
• Miracle Massage - 31044 Utica Rd, Fraser, MI
• Day Spa Asian Massage - 46697 Van Dyke, Shelby Township, MI
• Seven Mile Spa - 28917 West 7 Mile, Livonia, MI
• Bodyworks Massage - 9138 Middlebelt, Livonia, MI
• One residence – Troy, MI
• One residence – Livonia, MI
• Two hotel rooms - MGM Casino in Detroit, MI
As a result of the search warrants, a total of nine individuals (7 additional females & 1 male) were detained. Three individuals (2 females and 1 male) were turned over to Border Patrol for an overstay on their visas.
Additionally, five females were released pending misdemeanor charges.
Representatives from Turning Point were on site and provided resources for those individuals in need of support. Multiple women sought assistance from Turning Point and were provided with safe place to stay.
Approximately $35,000.00 in U.S currency and $6,700.00 in Canadian currency was seized, along with 22 cell phones, 1 laptop, and 1 tablet. Investigators are currently in the process of reviewing these electronic devices.
Looks like they also busted the MS' running transport and coordination of the girls.
Yay....merry christmas.
McNastyNasty
12-18-23, 15:39
These are the places raided:
These locations included:
• Seven Day Spa - 289 Southbound Gratiot, Mt. Clemens, MI.
• Miracle Massage - 31044 Utica Rd, Fraser, MI.
• Day Spa Asian Massage - 46697 Van Dyke, Shelby Township, MI.
• Seven Mile Spa - 28917 West 7 Mile, Livonia, MI.
• Bodyworks Massage - 9138 Middlebelt, Livonia, MI.
• One residence – Troy, MI.
• One residence – Livonia, MI.
• Two hotel rooms. MGM Casino in Detroit, MI.
This might be a controversial take, but this is the reason why we should just legalize and decriminalize sex work. All it does it take money from consenting adults and gives it straight to the cops so they can buy more guns and armored cars for their precinct. There's so many positives for making sex work legal and yet, it'll never happen. As a somewhat related side note, I wonder what other places got popped as part of their operation.
Scratch that; just found the report. Here's the places that got raided:
Seven Day Spa - 289 Southbound Gratiot, Mt. Clemens, MI
Miracle Massage - 31044 Utica Rd, Fraser, MI
Day Spa Asian Massage - 46697 Van Dyke, Shelby Township, MI
Seven Mile Spa - 28917 West 7 Mile, Livonia, MI
Bodyworks Massage - 9138 Middlebelt, Livonia, MI
One residence Troy, MI
One residence Livonia, MI
Two hotel rooms - MGM Casino in Detroit, MI
As a result of the search warrants, a total of nine individuals (7 additional females & 1 male) were detained. Three individuals (2 females and 1 male) were turned over to Border Patrol for an overstay on their visas.
Additionally, five females were released pending misdemeanor charges.
Representatives from Turning Point were on site and provided resources for those individuals in need of support. Multiple women sought assistance from Turning Point and were provided with safe place to stay.
Approximately $35,000.00 in U.S currency and $6,700.00 in Canadian currency was seized, along with 22 cell phones, 1 laptop, and 1 tablet. Investigators are currently in the process of reviewing these electronic devices.
Looks like they also busted the MS' running transport and coordination of the girls.
Yay....merry christmas.Let's say your phone records / texts were linked to one of the phones seized or you were recorded on camera entering the premises and that video was on laptop taken. Can anything happen to you from a legal standpoint?
IWannaHaveFun6
12-18-23, 16:33
This might be a controversial take, but this is the reason why we should just legalize and decriminalize sex work. All it does it take money from consenting adults and gives it straight to the cops so they can buy more guns and armored cars for their precinct. There's so many positives for making sex work legal and yet, it'll never happen. As a somewhat related side note, I wonder what other places got popped as part of their operation.Where are all those "my body, my choice" folks at?? Are they going to be protesting?
Softailrider
12-18-23, 17:02
This might be a controversial take, but this is the reason why we should just legalize and decriminalize sex work. All it does it take money from consenting adults and gives it straight to the cops so they can buy more guns and armored cars for their precinct. There's so many positives for making sex work legal and yet, it'll never happen. As a somewhat related side note, I wonder what other places got popped as part of their operation.
Scratch that; just found the report. Here's the places that got raided:
Seven Day Spa - 289 Southbound Gratiot, Mt. Clemens, MI
Miracle Massage - 31044 Utica Rd, Fraser, MI
Day Spa Asian Massage - 46697 Van Dyke, Shelby Township, MI
Seven Mile Spa - 28917 West 7 Mile, Livonia, MI
Bodyworks Massage - 9138 Middlebelt, Livonia, MI
One residence Troy, MI
One residence Livonia, MI
Two hotel rooms - MGM Casino in Detroit, MI
As a result of the search warrants, a total of nine individuals (7 additional females & 1 male) were detained. Three individuals (2 females and 1 male) were turned over to Border Patrol for an overstay on their visas.
Additionally, five females were released pending misdemeanor charges.
Representatives from Turning Point were on site and provided resources for those individuals in need of support. Multiple women sought assistance from Turning Point and were provided with safe place to stay.
Approximately $35,000.00 in U.S currency and $6,700.00 in Canadian currency was seized, along with 22 cell phones, 1 laptop, and 1 tablet. Investigators are currently in the process of reviewing these electronic devices.
Looks like they also busted the MS' running transport and coordination of the girls.
Yay....merry christmas.Low hanging fruit. Those individuals turned over to Border Patrol are a joke. What about the other 10,000 that passed through the Southern border today?
LostInDetroit
12-18-23, 17:25
Let's say your phone records / texts were linked to one of the phones seized or you were recorded on camera entering the premises and that video was on laptop taken. Can anything happen to you from a legal standpoint?I'm no attorney (so obviously this isn't meant to be legal advice), but I HIGHLY doubt that anything would come of it if your phone number was found out to be messaging a provider. The cops aren't after you. They're after the people who are organizing these alleged sex trafficking rings. But it should be worth noting that if you are messaging a provider, you really should be doing it from a burner number. There's tons of apps out there that offer free texting and calling from numbers that aren't attached to you or you could always go buy a pre-paid dummy phone from a gas station on 8 mile or something. I have one of those phones specifically for that purpose alone. It costed me $30 up front for the phone and then I spend maybe $20 every 6 months in credits to call or send texts. Worth every penny imo.
Let's say your phone records / texts were linked to one of the phones seized or you were recorded on camera entering the premises and that video was on laptop taken. Can anything happen to you from a legal standpoint?You bet you can be in trouble. You may get a visit from the FBI or sheriff's office if they connect your number or license plate to one of those establishments.
LostInDetroit
12-18-23, 17:32
Where are all those "my body, my choice" folks at?? Are they going to be protesting?Not that I'm trying to get into a political debate, but what does being pro-choice have to do with supporting sex work? I politically come from a more left leaning family and I can tell you that I have family members that support things like universal health care and gun control but still think poor people are lazy just like I have friends who are more right leaning and support things like better funding for public schools but also call black people the and word. Surprise surprise, human beings are complex and can't be stereotyped.
I'm listing the Spa's that were raided by SET that stands for (Macomb) Sheriff Enforcement Team.
They raided two Rooms at the MGM. I knew about the 12th Floor room the 8th floor room was a surprise to me.
They raided the residence in Troy. (Senior Mongers we know all too well about that UTR, well it's gone now).
The Spa's that were raided are. 7 Mile Spa (pricey but def fun). Bodyworks, Day Spa, Miracle and 7 day spa. They all got caught up in the raid. All the girls rotated from those spa's within those spa's anyway for FS. Ya'll stay safe out there because this all came after 14 months of surveillance.
I got a PM and tried to reply but your box is full. I know about the rooms because I have a friend that works at MGM (Detroit). Anytime I am in Detroit I stay at the MGM for free. They gave the master key to SET and they hit a room on the 12th floor and the 8th. They watched the entire thing go down on the camera's. I honestly think the 14 month watch started at the hotel. I say that because I Think (it is just a theory) I think it all started at the casino. The times I was staying there, it was a manager on day shift that did not like the amount of traffic going between the two rooms, manager could not do or say anything about it because they were paid up for 2 months at a time. If you been to MGM then you know that you can't just walk up to a room. Surely they had a spotter and knew when to approach and how to approach. One day according to my buddy this manager called a tip line after he noticed an employee leaving out of one of those rooms and started talking about it to others on the casino floor. So I think it could have started from there, like most of you I agree, if it is two Consenting adults and one decides to spend his casino winnings on some FS fun and the other party is ok with it then what is the big deal? It was a win win for everybody. Not one but Two rooms were being paid up for months at a time, it was clearly those already staying at the hotel going into the rooms. There was never any drama or fights, security was never notified of anything about problems in those two rooms. So exactly what is the issue?
If they are being forced over here or forced into working or forced to pay off a debt then yep lock them up. But if they are willing participants then I say leave them alone.
I'm no attorney (so obviously this isn't meant to be legal advice), but I HIGHLY doubt that anything would come of it if your phone number was found out to be messaging a provider. The cops aren't after you. They're after the people who are organizing these alleged sex trafficking rings. But it should be worth noting that if you are messaging a provider, you really should be doing it from a burner number. There's tons of apps out there that offer free texting and calling from numbers that aren't attached to you or you could always go buy a pre-paid dummy phone from a gas station on 8 mile or something. I have one of those phones specifically for that purpose alone. It costed me $30 up front for the phone and then I spend maybe $20 every 6 months in credits to call or send texts. Worth every penny imo.That's definitely a smart thing to do.
However I know for a fact that at least one of the places raided recorded cars / licenses as they parked, and tied that to you as they recorded you entering the doorway.
There is no way out of that one if they're set on identifying you.
IWannaHaveFun6
12-18-23, 19:01
LostInDetroit,
I agree not doing a political debate here. This doesn't really have anything to do with the abortion thing, but if you're going to use a slogan like that Just for killing babies it's pretty hypocritical, isn't it?
"My Body, My Choice" should apply to anything you do with Your body, whether it's vaccinations, medical care and even, yes, what you choose to do with your sex organs. (provided you're an adult!
LostInDetroit,
I agree not doing a political debate here. This doesn't really have anything to do with the abortion thing, but if you're going to use a slogan like that Just for killing babies it's pretty hypocritical, isn't it?
"My Body, My Choice" should apply to anything you do with Your body, whether it's vaccinations, medical care and even, yes, what you choose to do with your sex organs. (provided you're an adult!Most progressives agree that sex work should be legalized and regulated to provide a safe environment for both providers and clients. What they are against, as we all should be, is human trafficking and being forced into sex work. You really are barking up the wrong tree here, trying to make some irrelevant political points.
Trump lost, buddy. It's ok. You can get over it.
Most progressives agree that sex work should be legalized and regulated to provide a safe environment for both providers and clients. What they are against, as we all should be, is human trafficking and being forced into sex work. You really are barking up the wrong tree here, trying to make some irrelevant political points.
Trump lost, buddy. It's ok. You can get over it.In the words of Aaron Rodgers. Just RELAX. Its a year end money grab. The landscape will only change briefly. Look up Warren Oh, and you will understand how this works. Minimal charges in exchange for stolen cash. Then return to normal. Wash, rinse, repeat.
WhatsItMan
12-18-23, 20:50
Maru is not a full service spa. Strictly HE. I have gone there a number of times: mostly older women who give good massage plus a little extra. I was driving by, so stopped in. I had never seen Jessica before she met me at the door. First of all, she is cute. I don't guess the ages of these women, but she is not as old as some others. Second, she gives a great massage which takes awhile. Third, she is marvelous at the HE game. No teasing until the end of the massage, when she go me to raise up a little for a full grab. On the flip she negotiated a price. Then she proceeded with a handie that led to a shuddering O. Took her time, did things I've never experienced, and kept eye contact the entire time. Best experience I've had. 65 for the massage, 60 for a tip. Recommended.
That's definitely a smart thing to do.
However I know for a fact that at least one of the places raided recorded cars / licenses as they parked, and tied that to you as they recorded you entering the doorway.
There is no way out of that one if they're set on identifying you.They couldn't care less. They have their case. I agree with the other guy. Its a money grab.
MadThad0890
12-18-23, 22:27
These are the places raided:
These locations included:
Seven Day Spa - 289 Southbound Gratiot, Mt. Clemens, MI.
Miracle Massage - 31044 Utica Rd, Fraser, MI.
Day Spa Asian Massage - 46697 Van Dyke, Shelby Township, MI.
Seven Mile Spa - 28917 West 7 Mile, Livonia, MI.
Bodyworks Massage - 9138 Middlebelt, Livonia, MI.
One residence Troy, MI.
One residence Livonia, MI.
Two hotel rooms. MGM Casino in Detroit, MI.Well there goes my Christmas present I was going to buy for myself next week. I wasn't planning to go to any of these but I'm sure all the other ones are going to probably be on guard for a while. You guys just stay safe out there.
That's definitely a smart thing to do.
However I know for a fact that at least one of the places raided recorded cars / licenses as they parked, and tied that to you as they recorded you entering the doorway.
There is no way out of that one if they're set on identifying you.Just because they record you going in to one of these places is not enough proof to say you did something illegal inside. I doubt anything would come of this. Anyone have an idea how long any of these places were being monitored before the raid?
You bet you can be in trouble. You may get a visit from the FBI or sheriff's office if they connect your number or license plate to one of those establishments.As long as you are not sending incriminating text messages to any of these places you should be perfectly fine. Just because someone is filmed visiting one of these places does not mean anything illegal has happened. People do go here for just a massage. It doesn't mean you did something illegal just cause you walked in.
Anyone tried this girl out? Very curious! New here BTW, hello.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1775236
LostInDetroit
12-19-23, 10:06
In the words of Aaron Rodgers. Just RELAX. Its a year end money grab. The landscape will only change briefly. Look up Warren Oh, and you will understand how this works. Minimal charges in exchange for stolen cash. Then return to normal. Wash, rinse, repeat.I completely agree with HeeJunk. While sure it's a bit scary to all of us because it happened so suddenly (and without much warning as most raids / stings do), it's exactly the reaction that the cops want out of us (the clients). They think by temporarily giving us a scare that we'll stay away and stop patronizing these businesses. What they don't understand / realize is that there will always be a market for these services. Granted, do I want these girls to not be trafficked into providing them? Of FUCKING COURSE! But the reason why this trafficking exists in the first place is because it's illegal, full stop. Make this shit legal / regulated and you solve human trafficking (or at the very least make it so minimal that it's easier to police and protect victims of it).
At the end of the day, the good providers will continue to provide and there's still a ton of options out there that I'm sure are safe from Uncle LEO even right at this very moment. Hell, even the bad ones that got busted will just learn from their mistakes, find a new place and re-start up their business in a different building or city in a few weeks / months. Suffice to say, the world's oldest profession isn't going away any time soon. If anything, it's just going to evolve until it's federally legalized in few years / decades. If Nevada can do it, so can we.
Do we still have remaining FS spa remaining?
Might as well post the full name and address here too.
I'm new to the massage scene as I'm normally a strip club guy. Reading lots of fun info to temp me into a massage but was wondering, after reading about raids, what happens to a customer if you're there during a raid? Thanks in advance!
Mister Paul
12-19-23, 12:31
I came across this place online. I decided it deserved a look so I stopped in this morning as they were opening. There were a few workers inside putting the finishing touches on some counters. I was welcomed in by a very hot Asian woman named Apple (from 1717). She asked if I wanted a massage. I decided to come back in a few days because I could not relax with the workers in the building. Apple assured me that they would be gone in less than an hour. But I could not wait. Apple said there was another sweet young girl available today with another coming on Tuesday. From what I could see, this place is very nice. Table shower, several nice rooms and plenty of parking. Everything is new and very clean. I can't wait to come back and try out the table shower. 13 Mile at Greenfield in Beverly Hills.I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.
Anyone tried this girl out? Very curious! New here BTW, hello.
https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1775236She's been reviewed on here several times, I recommend searching. I saw her once years ago. She's good looking with a big fake ass, but that's about the extent of the positive on her.
Just because they record you going in to one of these places is not enough proof to say you did something illegal inside. I doubt anything would come of this. Anyone have an idea how long any of these places were being monitored before the raid?The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.
Smashing1979
12-19-23, 15:02
The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.If they can't prove you got anything more than a massage, then why would they even bother to go after a John in the first place?
I think the only way a monger gets into trouble is if he's caught in the act by a raid, propositions an undercover cop in a sting operation, or if there are phone records or texts explicitly talking about paying money for sex.
Can anyone with a legal background chime in?
I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.Cowboy Tshirt? Clearly LEO.
I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.What was the cost + tip?
The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.
If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.
Smashing1979
12-19-23, 16:05
It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.
If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.
Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).
Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.
Hankook234
12-19-23, 16:17
Do we still have remaining FS spa remaining?
Might as well post the full name and address here too.Long time monger here just been coasting the posts for a while. M1, magic and Saigon are still good. But I'd expect them to tread lightly on those who visit. Day spa is for sure closed. Saw a white sheet covering the door and broken glass. I don't do AMP too often anymore. The aamp are the best.
Hankook234
12-19-23, 16:19
Cowboy Tshirt? Clearly LEO.I steer very clear from streetwalkers. The price you pay for the price you may pay isn't worth it.
Cherry Blossom was allegedly closed after a raid roughly six months ago. They had video cameras trained on the door and cash register area. They maintained phone records which, at least in the short term, tied to specific visits and workers. To the best of my knowledge the rooms weren't bugged. It's strange there were no news accounts of the closure or rates.
It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.
If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.
SandersNut
12-19-23, 17:21
Just left a Groupon massage that was great but no extras. On way home I got a text that a provider of BBBJ only was at a hotel at crooks and m59. So I swung by and spent 15 minutes getting a great BBBJ cim. She will only be there tonight. Sexy white 30 something natural C's clean. She is not a massage therapist but she says she can do massage. Seniors inbox for details.
Softailrider
12-19-23, 18:03
That's definitely a smart thing to do.
However I know for a fact that at least one of the places raided recorded cars / licenses as they parked, and tied that to you as they recorded you entering the doorway.
There is no way out of that one if they're set on identifying you.Identifying you for what? Going to a massage place for a massage?
The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.Looks like there is no escape for you. I checked you made visit and review on Anna before.
LostInDetroit
12-19-23, 18:36
This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.
Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).
Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.I agree with Smashing here. Unless you are specifically walking in and telling the girls either in person or via text "Hey, how much to fuck you?" loud enough that the whole town can hear it, the cops quite literally have nothing to tie to you. Sure, they could have their suspicion that you're doing something illegal, but without probable cause (and even then PC is not enough for an arrest in most situations) or hard evidence / proof of you soliciting prostitution, there's no way they can do anything to you. And if they did, don't tell them SHIT! Nothing good EVER comes from talking to cops. Play dumb. If anything, you could just say you had no idea what goes on in this place and just wanted a massage. Hell, you could even tell the cop that the second the girl started touching your junk that you didn't consent to her touching you. Your word against hers. So long story short, stop freaking the fuck out. The cops are not coming after you, me or any other monger. If you want a massage with extras, go get a massage with extras. Stay safe and go bust your nuts.
Big Boob Lover
12-19-23, 18:39
I will be in Dearborn on Friday this week for work, what places are the best to go to as I have not been in the area in a few years. Healing Therapy with Sasha was always good but I can't remember much else. AMP or private is fine, just looking for a massage with fun. Thanks. PM's are fine if you prefer.
This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.
Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).
Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.Thanks for you input. I will keep on keeping on and bust my nut whereever I damn well please. LOL.
SanityIsRealit
12-19-23, 20:24
This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.
Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).
Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.As someone that's been on this board for more than 5 years, this happens every 8-10 months without fail:
1. Particular place or places get raided.
2. Everyone freaks out.
3. There's at least one moron who pours gasoline on the small fire and states as fact that some of us will be arrested by the police or the FBI.
4. Nothing ever happens.
5. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Unless you're part of a trafficking ring, or if you're too dumb to perform the VERY simple and basic etiquette that keeps you out of harm's way, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I'd like to suggest mods banning the gasoline pourers; as this prevents information being shared, which hurts us all.
As someone that's been on this board for more than 5 years, this happens every 8-10 months without fail:
1. Particular place or places get raided.
2. Everyone freaks out.
3. There's at least one moron who pours gasoline on the small fire and states as fact that some of us will be arrested by the police or the FBI.
4. Nothing ever happens.
5. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Unless you're part of a trafficking ring, or if you're too dumb to perform the VERY simple and basic etiquette that keeps you out of harm's way, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I'd like to suggest mods banning the gasoline pourers; as this prevents information being shared, which hurts us all.Appreciate the advice! I'm not pouring gasoline!
Hankook234
12-19-23, 20:49
As someone that's been on this board for more than 5 years, this happens every 8-10 months without fail:
1. Particular place or places get raided.
2. Everyone freaks out.
3. There's at least one moron who pours gasoline on the small fire and states as fact that some of us will be arrested by the police or the FBI.
4. Nothing ever happens.
5. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Unless you're part of a trafficking ring, or if you're too dumb to perform the VERY simple and basic etiquette that keeps you out of harm's way, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I'd like to suggest mods banning the gasoline pourers; as this prevents information being shared, which hurts us all.Agreed. Too many mongers out in the USA. Would honestly cause a economic crisis. Too many domino effects there's just too many mongers.
TylerKnight090
12-19-23, 21:07
In town visiting, where is Gold Star? Google brings you to an empty lot.
LostInDetroit
12-19-23, 22:27
Long time monger here just been coasting the posts for a while. M1, magic and Saigon are still good. But I'd expect them to tread lightly on those who visit. Day spa is for sure closed. Saw a white sheet covering the door and broken glass. I don't do AMP too often anymore. The aamp are the best.Maybe I'm looking at this all in retrospect, but I honestly don't think Day Spa getting raided or shut down was all that surprising or shocking. If any of you have been there, they really didn't keep up the façade that the place was a spa in any sense. They had no front desk receptionist, the place was dark and dimly lit with a bunch of non working pedicure machines and "massage" tables with paper sheets (akin to that of a doctors office) with no face holes. Anyone who thought for 10 seconds that this place looked like a legit spa has never been to a legit spa before. At least with other FS places, there was at least a bit of plausible deniability that the place was indeed legit. Places like the now gone Spa 1717 immediately come to mind that gave clients bath robes and slippers to lead you to the table shower were some of the things to at least make you think that at least things were somewhat on the up and up.
As a somewhat surprising related note, I do find it interesting that they smashed the front door as part of the raid. You would have thought that they would have just had an undercover cop walk in and perform some arrests (as to my knowledge there was only 2 or 3 people in the building at any particular moment). Guess they were really trying to send a message (or perhaps living out their real "hero" moment) when they smashed in the front door.
LostInDetroit
12-19-23, 22:29
In town visiting, where is Gold Star? Google brings you to an empty lot.A quick search of the forum turned up the result of plugging Greeley St & 8 Mile Rd, Detroit, MI into google maps.
TylerKnight090
12-19-23, 23:33
A quick search of the forum turned up the result of plugging Greeley St & 8 Mile Rd, Detroit, MI into google maps.Thank you! Ended up ay Majic's again but will try them out later this week.
What was the cost + tip?IslandM, clear out your private messages.
It's a misdemeanor for the first two solicitations. We wrote 300 misdemeanors doesn't make the news. Have your fun and don't worry about it. Now if your on number two already, hang it up. The 3rd is a felony.
So most full service will start the talk about what you want and price. So if you were on camera that would be problematic. Most HE places just do the deed. So you can claim they caught you off guard and there was no intent on your part. So if your concerned stick to the HE places for now.
There are a few places in Oakland county. They will generally not raid them, just close them for some violation. They don't want the press that they are in their town.
So I am a rideshare driver by trade and last week I picked up a girl at Sunrise Spa on Grand River and drive her to M1 down on Telegraph. Had no idea the were affiliated.
Hankook234
12-20-23, 06:15
Maybe I'm looking at this all in retrospect, but I honestly don't think Day Spa getting raided or shut down was all that surprising or shocking. If any of you have been there, they really didn't keep up the faade that the place was a spa in any sense. They had no front desk receptionist, the place was dark and dimly lit with a bunch of non working pedicure machines and "massage" tables with paper sheets (akin to that of a doctors office) with no face holes. Anyone who thought for 10 seconds that this place looked like a legit spa has never been to a legit spa before. At least with other FS places, there was at least a bit of plausible deniability that the place was indeed legit. Places like the now gone Spa 1717 immediately come to mind that gave clients bath robes and slippers to lead you to the table shower were some of the things to at least make you think that at least things were somewhat on the up and up.
As a somewhat surprising related note, I do find it interesting that they smashed the front door as part of the raid. You would have thought that they would have just had an undercover cop walk in and perform some arrests (as to my knowledge there was only 2 or 3 people in the building at any particular moment). Guess they were really trying to send a message (or perhaps living out their real "hero" moment) when they smashed in the front door.For sure they even left the doors open on a sunny warm day sometimes. I was surprised. Thought for a second they were safe.
CarmeloJoe35
12-20-23, 07:11
Oh please, I want to puke at this ridiculous statement. I've been doing this for 10 years and I've never met any girl who couldn't leave when ever they wanted to go to another store. How many times have you come across a "new girl" who you thought was going to be your ATF only to find out she left a few day later because they didn't like the shop or the other girls or they weren't that busy? I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but unlikely at these places.
I wanted to puke at all the ridiculous heart jerking statements they made. "They had no transportation. " That's because most Chinese don't know how to drive! They all use Uber. The political police show is so fucking irritating.
If all of this was legal, there would be zero trafficking at all of these places. Too many guys would play white knight, Myself included, to protect them from assholes. It would be safer for everyone involved.
They said some of the girls sought trafficking help. If true I suspect they did this to minimize their own trouble.
It's a misdemeanor for the first two solicitations. We wrote 300 misdemeanors doesn't make the news. Have your fun and don't worry about it. Now if your on number two already, hang it up. The 3rd is a felony.Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?
CarmeloJoe35
12-20-23, 11:36
Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?I was wondering the same thing when I read that.
SamPerkins420
12-20-23, 13:29
Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?Pretty sure that he meant "the cops aren't issuing press releases about writing a bunch of citations for getting a handy".
https://us-detroit.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/grand-open-ferndale-mi/23067979.html
I saw this ad a few months ago and was unable to find this place. I am in this area frequently so I just kept my eyes opened. It turns out, Gold Star is not in Ferndale; it is in Detroit. The Google map shows it in Ferndale about a half mile west of Woodward on W Eight Mile. It is actually on EAST EIGHT MILE about a quarter mile east of I-75. I stumbled upon it yesterday and stopped in for a visit. A beautiful Korean girl named Lisa answered the door and welcomed me in. She was early-30's with a great body hidden by a very tiny dress that barely covered her ass. I gave her the $80 house fee and started to get undressed. I should mention that the spa was spotless and furnished beautifully. Lisa came into the room and offered me a table shower. I was somewhat pressed for time so I declined. I got on the table face down and she began a very good massage. It was much better than almost any Asian place I have been. She did a very thorough job and her fingers let me know that it was time to turn over. I am a bit older so sometimes I need a little more encouragement to go forward. Lisa was very patient and provided the addition stimulus required. About 15 minutes later, she cleaned me up with an alcohol soaked cloth and gave me another 20 minutes of excellent massage. My visit to Gold Star spa was super and I will most certainly return.It took me a month but I finally made it back to see Lisa. This time, I went for the table shower. Great experience. A very thorough scrubbing. Once again, she gave me a very good massage. She performed wonderfully and I was totally happy. On the way out, I saw a hot looking girl and Lisa told me that her name was Annie. She just arrived last night. She suggested that I might want to try her next time. As much as I like Lisa, I will probably give Annie an audition soon. Variety is definitely something I like.
LostInDetroit
12-20-23, 16:59
It took me a month but I finally made it back to see Lisa. This time, I went for the table shower. Great experience. A very thorough scrubbing. Once again, she gave me a very good massage. She performed wonderfully and I was totally happy. On the way out, I saw a hot looking girl and Lisa told me that her name was Annie. She just arrived last night. She suggested that I might want to try her next time. As much as I like Lisa, I will probably give Annie an audition soon. Variety is definitely something I like.Just out of curiosity, what was the total damage out the door for Lisa? I might try and make it out there this week as an early Christmas present to myself.
Pretty sure that he meant "the cops aren't issuing press releases about writing a bunch of citations for getting a handy".Yes, I was being sarcastic. They won't waste their time because it's not news worthy.
HungaryMan
12-20-23, 20:36
Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?Imagine quote marks before the word we and after the word misdemeanors and you'll understand probably more clearly.
Imagine quote marks before the word we and after the word misdemeanors and you'll understand probably more clearly.That would have made more sense and sorry to call you out AM but better safe than sorry LOL.
HungaryMan
12-20-23, 22:20
That would have made more sense and sorry to call you out AM but better safe than sorry LOL.No worries but I am not the original poster.
Final Fantasy
12-20-23, 22:59
I do not remember seeing this reviewed. Stop by and was greeted by cute thirty-ish YO girl. Like, abnormally cute for massage joint. Seems possibly like a new place. Much to my surprise, she gave really Good massage. English was not great, but ok. She did some back walking without the bars on ceiling, which impressed me.
When it came time for leg massage, she did some fingers in the ass crack, which I did not hate, then she started basically edging me when I was face down. She stopped right before the bomb went off, wiped back down with hot towel, then flip and edged some more. . 7 house, . 6 tip. No negotiating happened, so I appreciated that. Name was Yuyu. This has to be the 4th Yuyu I've heard of.
The other girl in there was roughly 30 also. I hate to give up such a spot, but wouldn't be right to hog it. Give them some business guys.
Warren.
Smashing1979
12-21-23, 08:00
Most progressives agree that sex work should be legalized and regulated to provide a safe environment for both providers and clients. What they are against, as we all should be, is human trafficking and being forced into sex work. You really are barking up the wrong tree here, trying to make some irrelevant political points.This is true. The most liberal area of the state (Ann Arbor / Washtenaw County) is the one area in Michigan that has decriminalized sex work.
I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.I noticed they changed the phone number and have K-girls now. Do you know why?
JoeyRamone
12-21-23, 10:31
In light of recent events I'll add this.
DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!
And NEVER voluntarily go the station for an "interview" without a lawyer.
Don't answer any questions, ever. Don't try and make excuses. Don't try and minimize (I only got a massage).
Be polite and respectful but don't answer questions. You can even say something like, "I have a friend that's a lawyer and he'd never let me hear the end of it if I talked to you" Maybe even with a chuckle at the end.
Keep in mind that the police can lie to you (we have your prints, we have a witness, we have video). They can say anything they want to try and get you to incriminate yourself.
Nothing you say can help you. Even if you give them information that 100% exonerates you, it can't be brought up in court because of heresy rules.
This is true for any crime you're being investigated for.
As a lawyer friend of mind says, All my clients have the right to remain silent, few have the ability.
There is almost no chance any mongers will be questioned related to the recent raids. Detectives are not going to run down a bunch of John's hoping to get them to incriminate themselves for a misdemeanor.
However, if you do get arrested (for anything) follow this simple advice:
Say the words, "I invoke my 5th ammendment right to remain silent" Yes, you have to it say it. The Supreme Court has said that just remaining silent is not enough. You must say it out loud.
After that, say these 4 words, "I want a lawyer".
Not, I think I should get a lawyer. Not, do you think I need a lawyer? Not, I want to talk to my mom or dad or anything else.
Case law is clear. You must clearly declare that you want a lawyer. Nothing else will do.
Even if you're too nervous to invoke the 5th, continue to say, "I want a lawyer".
LostInDetroit
12-21-23, 14:01
In light of recent events I'll add this.
DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!
And NEVER voluntarily go the station for an "interview" without a lawyer.
Don't answer any questions, ever. Don't try and make excuses. Don't try and minimize (I only got a massage).
Be polite and respectful but don't answer questions. You can even say something like, "I have a friend that's a lawyer and he'd never let me hear the end of it if I talked to you" Maybe even with a chuckle at the end.
Keep in mind that the police can lie to you (we have your prints, we have a witness, we have video). They can say anything they want to try and get you to incriminate yourself.
Nothing you say can help you. Even if you give them information that 100% exonerates you, it can't be brought up in court because of heresy rules.
This is true for any crime you're being investigated for.
As a lawyer friend of mind says, All my clients have the right to remain silent, few have the ability.
There is almost no chance any mongers will be questioned related to the recent raids. Detectives are not going to run down a bunch of John's hoping to get them to incriminate themselves for a misdemeanor.
However, if you do get arrested (for anything) follow this simple advice:
Say the words, "I invoke my 5th ammendment right to remain silent" Yes, you have to it say it. The Supreme Court has said that just remaining silent is not enough. You must say it out loud.
After that, say these 4 words, "I want a lawyer".
Not, I think I should get a lawyer. Not, do you think I need a lawyer? Not, I want to talk to my mom or dad or anything else.
Case law is clear. You must clearly declare that you want a lawyer. Nothing else will do.
Even if you're too nervous to invoke the 5th, continue to say, "I want a lawyer".This honestly should be a pinned comment on this board. I have 2 friends who are attorneys and they would tell me the exact same thing. Guys, NEVER TELL COPS ANYTHING! The best script I was ever given from them (and is so simple to memorize) it's this:
"Why are you talking to me (or if you get stopped in a vehicle) Why did you pull me over?
When they start asking questions about where you're going, where you're coming from or what you're doing: "I'm not discussing my day with you".
When they keep asking questions: "Am I being detained or am I free to go?
If detained: "I invoke my 5th amendment rights at this time" <- the most important statement of them all.
Anything else they ask or say to you past that point. This is when you SHUT THE FUCK UP! Invoking your 5th is you telling the cops that you are staying silent until you are either released from their custody or you have your lawyer present (even if court appointed).
BONUS TIP: Unless the cop explicitly tells you that you are being detained, DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR I'd OR IDENTIFY YOURSELF! I always say, "I need to hear you say on record that you are detaining me otherwise I don't need to identify myself to you. " The only time this doesn't apply is if it is a traffic stop (and you are the driver) when they ask for your I'd and insurance.
Cops cannot hold you without probable cause, hard evidence or (even worse) a verbal confession from you so do NOT under any circumstances make their jobs easier! Remember: cops are not there to help you. Practice the script above and protect yourself.
TL; DR: SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN TALKING TO COPS!
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_e/naughty-or-nice-/236734628023
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_w/real-massages-real-boobs--real/991874753535
Anyone got any info on either of these girls? Or any other providers on the Westside? Getting a little tired of the AMP scene, and hoping to find a couple independent providers. Nothing FS just a decent massage and a handshake before I go. PMs welcome.
LostInDetroit
12-22-23, 00:36
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_e/naughty-or-nice-/236734628023
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_w/real-massages-real-boobs--real/991874753535
Anyone got any info on either of these girls? Or any other providers on the Westside? Getting a little tired of the AMP scene, and hoping to find a couple independent providers. Nothing FS just a decent massage and a handshake before I go. PMs welcome.I don't recall, but I feel like someone may have TOFTT on the top link (the cute dark haired chick with her own space in Plymouth https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_e/naughty-or-nice-/236734628023) . If memory serves me right, the reviews weren't stellar and she would try and upsell you on everything but I could also totally be misremembering here as well. I will say though that the other thing I find interesting is that in her original listing she says no FS but yet doing some light searching of her phone number resulted in an ad where she used to provide FS back in November as an escort: https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/outcall/59907075 . I mean, the main pic is her showing off the kitty (which looks very nice BTW). So unless she is trying to distance herself away from that part of the industry I'd be willing to bet if you played your cards right you might be able to get FS from her if that is something you'd like to explore. I'd be interested in a report if you decide to TOFTT. Lord knows that with all of the busts going on at the moment I could use a good UTR to keep me satisfied until the dust settles from my usual stomping grounds.
Good luck!
SeaDoo2016
12-22-23, 07:42
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_e/naughty-or-nice-/236734628023
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_w/real-massages-real-boobs--real/991874753535
Anyone got any info on either of these girls? Or any other providers on the Westside? Getting a little tired of the AMP scene, and hoping to find a couple independent providers. Nothing FS just a decent massage and a handshake before I go. PMs welcome.At jessifantasy (of) will treat you right and will deliver what you are looking for.
Lord knows that with all of the busts going on at the moment I could use a good UTR to keep me satisfied until the dust settles from my usual stomping grounds.
Good luck!Message me, please.
Hankook234
12-22-23, 14:36
Not sure if it's 100 percent but they removed the white sheet on the door and the lights are on. Open already?
Lord knows that with all of the busts going on at the moment I could use a good UTR to keep me satisfied until the dust settles from my usual stomping grounds.
Good luck!I would be interested in the same if anyone has anything.
IWannaHaveFun6
12-22-23, 16:39
At jessifantasy (of) will treat you right and will deliver what you are looking for.Not sure I understand this. Are you saying she is one of those two links, or are you suggesting her as an alternative?
TomSmith26
12-22-23, 17:09
Went very recently. "Young" and "pretty" are certainly subjective. I only saw one person there (though I could hear other women), but definitely nobody young or pretty. Fortunately the room was dark. Back massage actually fairly good. She went for it on the flip. Requested BJ and was quoted 1 bill with access to everything.
For those wondering, she didn't ask my name and I didn't ask hers. Back rub here not bad, but I'm going to be heading back to Saigon for the view next time.
So I am a rideshare driver by trade and last week I picked up a girl at Sunrise Spa on Grand River and drive her to M1 down on Telegraph. Had no idea the were affiliated.For me an excellent piece of Intel.
Good to know.
Thank you very much.
SeaDoo2016
12-22-23, 20:18
Not sure I understand this. Are you saying she is one of those two links, or are you suggesting her as an alternative?As an alternative.
RubberLover
12-22-23, 23:48
Made an appointment this morning, great response and communication. Very nice area and office in Redford off of 5 mile. Upon entering found Michelle very nicely dressed. Ask for the hr Swedish massage. Got comfortable and told her I was ready. She came back into the room in a satin robe, very sexy. Very good body work with deep muscle rubbing. On the flip I asked if it was ok to roam under here robe, she had no problem. Very sexy body and great attitude too!! I asked for extras, no full but the BBBJCIM was very very good. $$ total for the hr and oral finish. Give her a try, you won't be disappointed. I will repeat.Tried this one. Bbj with her seems risky. She seems very loose with the bare. Nice enough. Don't mind bbj Just don't want a gift.
I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.I stopped in last night for a little Christmas cheer. I have seen Apple before and she is great. But I thought I would try the new talent. When I got there, Nana was unavailable but they said I should try a new girl named Mimi. I agreed. I am so glad that I did. Mimi is about 5'3" with shoulder length dark hair and dark sexy eyes. She is not a spinner but she is beautifully proportioned. We started on the shower table where she gave me a very thorough sensual scrubbing. After a quick towel dry, we returned to the room and I climbed on the table. She asked about the type of massage I wanted. I told her medium pressure. She climbed on the table and straddled me by sitting on my ass while she worked my shoulders. Her beautiful legs felt great on my thighs. She sensuously worked down my body and slightly brushed my boys. She asked me to flip over and I did so immediately. She quickly removed her sexy outfit and I proceeded to enjoy and early Christmas present. Mimi is great and I will repeat. However, I saw Nana on my way out and she was gorgeous. I must try her out as well.
Anyone seen her?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/hws/d/hazel-park-massage-therapy-days-week/7698997449.html
LostInDetroit
12-23-23, 16:08
I stopped in last night for a little Christmas cheer. I have seen Apple before and she is great. But I thought I would try the new talent. When I got there, Nana was unavailable but they said I should try a new girl named Mimi. I agreed. I am so glad that I did. Mimi is about 5'3" with shoulder length dark hair and dark sexy eyes. She is not a spinner but she is beautifully proportioned. We started on the shower table where she gave me a very thorough sensual scrubbing. After a quick towel dry, we returned to the room and I climbed on the table. She asked about the type of massage I wanted. I told her medium pressure. She climbed on the table and straddled me by sitting on my ass while she worked my shoulders. Her beautiful legs felt great on my thighs. She sensuously worked down my body and slightly brushed my boys. She asked me to flip over and I did so immediately. She quickly removed her sexy outfit and I proceeded to enjoy and early Christmas present. Mimi is great and I will repeat. However, I saw Nana on my way out and she was gorgeous. I must try her out as well.Can I ask what the total damage was out the door? Thinking about making a stop out there soon myself.
Anyone seen her?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/hws/d/hazel-park-massage-therapy-days-week/7698997449.htmlNot the greatest reports but I'm tempted to try, something about her is hot.
OneExcitingGuy
12-23-23, 18:22
Anyone seen her?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/hws/d/hazel-park-massage-therapy-days-week/7698997449.htmlI don't think she is full service or anything. She is a a realtor and her # goes to her personal name all over google!!
Hankook234
12-23-23, 22:03
Wanted to spread some good info across the board here been to a couple places and had some fun.
Magic- met one chick there not sure what her name is but she's pretty cute and short. A bit of a belly. She was very quiet during the whole time which was kind of scary. I couldn't finish with her so easy felt pretty bland. But she will indeed go BBFS for another. 1 talked her down to 40 and she went with it. Have met three different women there but never seen them again. They give very mediocre massages. Typically. 28 out the door.
Famous shiatsu- some of the best people here. The massages are exceptional and the HE are very very good. Total out the window about. 12.
Asian art spa- It was my first official place for a good time but boy they are extremely mechanical and rough. I've only gotten a HE but it's been horrible every single time. They rush you like crazy.
Anyone from the Kana group is excellent. Cheri and Helen are fantastic people and amazing bodies. They sometimes give massages after. Usually. 18 for an hour.
Treat them well as they are amazing GFE.
I would go at day spa but they're closed now but the older Asian lady was a sweetheart. But absolutely hates when you go too long.
RonJohnson83
12-23-23, 23:55
Anyone know if Wendy is still around? She was at Novi Massage a year or so ago. Haven't been back since to verify.
What did the talent look like at Diamond's massage, I was thinking about checking that place out but thinking not now!Not great. The person I had was older.
Timberwolf
12-24-23, 17:25
I don't think she is full service or anything. She is a a realtor and her # goes to her personal name all over google!!A donno? "Realtor" is a pr0 and genre these days LOL.
Anyone know if Wendy is still around? She was at Novi Massage a year or so ago. Haven't been back since to verify.I believe wendy and sasha are long long long gone.
Not great. The person I had was older.That seems to be the norm around!
BackRoom Bob
12-25-23, 12:12
I haven't been to this place in over 20 years. I know I should have expected some changes; but not like this. What had been a semi-dumpy place before has been transformed in a very beautiful and clean facility. Another change is the girls are much younger. Maybe the youngest in the area. I was greeted by Yumi. As I entered, I could see two other girls in skimpy outfits just waiting to please. All three girls were very hot!! Since Yumi's hand was on my ass, I decided to go with her. It was a very good decision. She led me down the hall to my room. She offered me a table shower and I accepted. I recall some very nice episodes on the Magic shower table and Yumi did not disappoint. My butt was definitely the cleanest in that zip code. Anyway, back in the room, I got on the table and watched Yumi prepared. She had on a very skimpy outfit that just begged to be removed. Yumi asked how I liked it and I chose hard. She climbed on the table and straddled my ass while she began working on me. Her fabulous hands worked my entire backside and flirted with my nuggets more than once. She asked me to flip and she noticed that I was definitely aroused. Her menu was pretty open. She dropped the skimpy outfit and I proceeded to have a great encounter. This was the best morning I have had in a long time. I will certainly return. I might repeat with Yumi but the other two looked interesting as well.I, too, haven't been to Magic in years. But after reading a few good things, I decided to give it another shot. I stopped in on Christmas morning to get my day started. Cherry answered the door. She was wearing a tiny red outfit that covered her nipples and barely covered her ass. As I entered, I could see into a room where the girls hang out. There were two other girls in the room and they were as hot as Cherry was. She led me to my room and asked if I wanted a table shower. Of course I accepted. Cherry lathered me up and had me at attention. Then she rinsed me off and towel-dried me. Back in the room, she climbed on the table and massaged my shoulders. She worked her way down my body and spent a little more time on my ass and thighs. Before she went further, I told her I wanted to turn over. She dismounted and dropped the red outfit and I had a nice Christmas present. This place has improved since I was last here. The girls are all younger, beautiful and friendly. I will return soon.
Does anyone know of any places in Rochester area for a good massage and HE? Pulse where they are actually attractive!
Mr Regular
12-25-23, 16:13
I, too, haven't been to Magic in years. But after reading a few good things, I decided to give it another shot. I stopped in on Christmas morning to get my day started. Cherry answered the door. She was wearing a tiny red outfit that covered her nipples and barely covered her ass. As I entered, I could see into a room where the girls hang out. There were two other girls in the room and they were as hot as Cherry was. She led me to my room and asked if I wanted a table shower. Of course I accepted. Cherry lathered me up and had me at attention. Then she rinsed me off and towel-dried me. Back in the room, she climbed on the table and massaged my shoulders. She worked her way down my body and spent a little more time on my ass and thighs. Before she went further, I told her I wanted to turn over. She dismounted and dropped the red outfit and I had a nice Christmas present. This place has improved since I was last here. The girls are all younger, beautiful and friendly. I will return soon.Clear your in-box??
Where can one find one these days? I haven't been able to find one since pre-COVID. I used to frequent the two in Madison Heights. Any info would be appreciated. Whether dm or not.
Does anyone know of any places in Rochester area for a good massage and HE? Pulse where they are actually attractive!Thanks for your first report. Try 967 x Oakwood.
IWannaHaveFun6
12-25-23, 21:36
Anyone seen her?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/hws/d/hazel-park-massage-therapy-days-week/7698997449.htmlSeemed like it was just recently that someone reviewed her. Took me a while to find it as it was just early last month.
Here is the review: You could also search for "Shannon".
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4501-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=6684780&viewfull=1#post6684780.
I still would be tempted to try though, but cautious noting the above review.
Thanks for your first report. Try 967 x Oakwood.Does anyone have reviews and all the detail of the place?
LookingToSee
12-26-23, 09:07
Wanted to spread some good info across the board here been to a couple places and had some fun.
Magic- met one chick there not sure what her name is but she's pretty cute and short. A bit of a belly. She was very quiet during the whole time which was kind of scary. I couldn't finish with her so easy felt pretty bland. But she will indeed go BBFS for another. 1 talked her down to 40 and she went with it. Have met three different women there but never seen them again. They give very mediocre massages. Typically. 28 out the door.
Famous shiatsu- some of the best people here. The massages are exceptional and the HE are very very good. Total out the window about. 12.
Asian art spa- It was my first official place for a good time but boy they are extremely mechanical and rough. I've only gotten a HE but it's been horrible every single time. They rush you like crazy.
Anyone from the Kana group is excellent. Cheri and Helen are fantastic people and amazing bodies. They sometimes give massages after. Usually. 18 for an hour.
Treat them well as they are amazing GFE.
I would go at day spa but they're closed now but the older Asian lady was a sweetheart. But absolutely hates when you go too long.What is the Kana Group? Where is it located?
Streethunter
12-26-23, 11:14
Agree, can someone help me out here too?
What is the Kana Group? Where is it located?
I know the girl from the second link is a worker from tropical touch, idk if the ad itself is real or not but the girl is real. If you do TOFTT, let me know how it goes!Which location does she work out of?
Which location does she work out of?Southgate.
PanicKachan
12-26-23, 12:39
Looking for a MP with a sauna and a decent massage with more than HE. Any pointers would be okay if it's limited to HE. If more available will not complaint.
PMs also welcome. !!
MichiganGuy30
12-26-23, 13:15
A Provider that works from a home, or "non parlor" like an office front. 30 or older, preferred but not necessary. Non-smoking place of business / home, and providing more than a handy for a finish. Massage Breeze / Jen fits in this category, but would like to branch out. Also seen Downriver Nuru, and Bonita but still would like to add another or two to my list of candidates. Somewhere south of Detroit would be best / but not mandatory. PM is good or feel free to reply to this post. Thanks for any ideas!
LostInDetroit
12-26-23, 14:54
Hey All,
Wondered if any of you guys had some suggestions for HE alternatives for SWB but that are still around that area. Looking for a decent massage from a younger provider. Not really interested in FS, but also not opposed to it either as long as it's not the go to default ending if you catch my drift. I would normally hit up Famous but those ladies are getting up there in age. Thoughts? Suggestions? PM's are always fine as well. Hope all of your holidays were good.
PhilCorliss1
12-26-23, 15:37
Any Intel on her?
https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/massage/caucasian_w/real-massages-real-boobs--real/233629467788
Both are in Keego, but with slightly different names. Any experience at either of these places? I live 6 minutes from royal Thai in commerce and I'm tired of the same 60 year old jerking me off LOL.
HungaryMan
12-26-23, 21:20
Looking for a MP with a sauna and a decent massage with more than HE. Any pointers would be okay if it's limited to HE. If more available will not complaint.
PMs also welcome. !!I think one or two have been talked about in this section.
HungaryMan
12-26-23, 21:22
Hey All,
Wondered if any of you guys had some suggestions for HE alternatives for SWB but that are still around that area. Looking for a decent massage from a younger provider. Not really interested in FS, but also not opposed to it either as long as it's not the go to default ending if you catch my drift. I would normally hit up Famous but those ladies are getting up there in age. Thoughts? Suggestions? PM's are always fine as well. Hope all of your holidays were good.Another is at 13 and mound but that is Warren so careful of LE.
Hey All,
Wondered if any of you guys had some suggestions for HE alternatives for SWB but that are still around that area. Looking for a decent massage from a younger provider. Not really interested in FS, but also not opposed to it either as long as it's not the go to default ending if you catch my drift. I would normally hit up Famous but those ladies are getting up there in age. Thoughts? Suggestions? PM's are always fine as well. Hope all of your holidays were good.Younger options. Fla, tx, NYC. Germany, toronto, Asia. But not mich.
Both are in Keego, but with slightly different names. Any experience at either of these places? I live 6 minutes from royal Thai in commerce and I'm tired of the same 60 year old jerking me off LOL.Located on Northwestern and 14 mile. Used to be called Siam Touch. Younger providers doing good massage and HE. 80 plus 50 is the going amount there.
SpankyBeAtIt
12-27-23, 07:18
I think one or two have been talked about in this section.Been to all of them in the Novi area, and not sure there is any with a sauna. They all do HE, but haven't gotten more from any Novi AMP. Might have luck in Farmington. Happy hunting!
Anyone been here? Or know of a good place to visit on the NE side of town?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/hws/d/clinton-township-body-rubs/7700638234.html
Younger options. Fla, tx, NYC. Germany, toronto, Asia. But not mich.There has to be something UTR in Michigan for select mongers. If there is, can someone please send me a PM.
Looking for a MP with a sauna and a decent massage with more than HE. Any pointers would be okay if it's limited to HE. If more available will not complaint.Panic. Make room in your PMs.
Located on Northwestern and 14 mile. Used to be called Siam Touch. Younger providers doing good massage and HE. 80 plus 50 is the going amount there.I just googled it real quick, google maps still shows it as Siam touch?
There has to be something UTR in Michigan for select mongers. If there is, can someone please send me a PM.Ditto this!
I've got to get some opinions on seeing these girls and daty. I read reviews where guys are doing it. Aren't you concerned with catching something? If the girl is using a CBJ and worried about it with you wouldn't you think not having any protection and going down on her might not be wise? Change my mind. I want to but I just can't bring myself to do it.
NastyNardo
12-27-23, 15:13
https://business.google.com/v/river-massage/09842904586179906808/cbb5/_?caid=20769787653&agid=152472007141&gclid=CjwKCAiAs6-sBhBmEiwA1Nl8syg-_yvITpvEXM0RKitOC-83zWSwCeQaXmEhRImuXjcIETUSZY7nfBoC6GcQAvD_BwE
Looks like it just opened but can't seem to find any details yet. Has anyone scoped this place out yet?
Pinhead Larry
12-27-23, 15:39
I haven't been but assumed it was similar to the Tropical Touch Thirst Trap.
Anyone been here? Or know of a good place to visit on the NE side of town?
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/hws/d/clinton-township-body-rubs/7700638234.html
Florida Expat
12-27-23, 15:59
Agree, can someone help me out here too?If you look through all the SKG ads, there are tons of Asian ads, typically with 3 phony photos per ad / phone number / location. Most of them all look identical, at least in basic ad language, claims, etc. And most of them all also include the statement.
"We are an agency and serve many cities. Photos are a likeness of the girls presented but may not be 100% accurate".
But usually only 1 of them include a line that looks like this.
"ASIAN GRP KANA" and often with a name like.
"AIKO" Truly Japanese. I Speak Good English".
Same thing on AdultSearch. It is the ad that stated Asian Group Kana that was also referencing the name "Helen" (couple months back I think) who has been referred to a few times on this board. Myself, I have been curious also. But not pulled the trigger yet. Basically leery of the reputation of many of these Asian places featuring old women, far from the photos that they include with their ads.
Here is one of the latest Kana group ads.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/ann-arbor/female-escorts/asian/best-asiantight-packagegreat-r/890370269676
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