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Hypothetical situation here.
Lets say someone goes to an Asian massage parlor. Pays 50 for a massage and tips 100. Pretending the masseuse comes in to the room in a very sexy outfit, takes it off, puts a condom on the guy. Sucks and rides him with a condom. Then finishes him with a hand and no condom. What are the std risk levels here? Is it safe for her to wash you down in rubbing alcohol too?Risk is low. Not zero of course, but very close. Absent symptoms, personally I would not worry. If you have hypochondriac tendencies and can't get the worry out of your mind, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea tests can be done after 1 week or more. The rest (4th gen HIV test, syphilis, Hepatitis. Herpes) can be done after 42 days. At that point your odds are probably 1 in millions against. You could test again at 6 months if you need to get rid of that 1 in millions chance.
BigPete1975
02-06-19, 08:12
I rmember being a naive kid who started out never expecting BBFS because it always seemed like a forbidden thing that was impossible to have. Then years later I find this forum and I've been almost exclusively been doing BBFS with providers. I'm starting to lose track of the women I've inseminated and I pray to God or whoever is answering to not give me a std or a kid. I sometimes wish I never found this forum but then I'm sticking my dick inside a nice warm pussy and all my worries go away till later that night. I can't get enough it's like my addiction while others have booze or drugs I bare fuck these chicks.How often do you test yourself for STDs?
Member #6535
02-06-19, 09:00
Thats why we are all here. Too test the water and report back. Its rare but members do report if they unfortunately contact something from a providers but some time its just bacteria from unclean providers and others will just say stories about when they did contact something and give members advice. Its a shameful thing to contact something and its not easy to always report back if member criticize you
Most of us wear our rain coats so we mainly discuss service but since this section is mixed the BBFS members should be more informative but for the most part everyone that BBFS at Mott has not said anything bad so up until now everything seems ok.
We all take risk in the hobby why worry about the next man doing BBFS when you should be greatful he taking the risk to report back us on the forum.( thats how i see it)Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.
Thanks.
Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.
Thanks.I remember many, many years ago getting scared shitless just because cover broke mid session. Then I've realized not every provider has stds. In fact very few of them have and pretty much same rule applies for civilian girls. While there are no absolute guarantees in this business (unless everyone gets regularly tested, etc.) there are few things you can do to help yourself. Here are my basic guidelines:
1. Avoid BB anal. Risk of transmission is simply much greater and I'm restrictive with this activity even with civilians.
2. Avoid SW and providers suspectible of using drugs. Aside from the more obvious concerns I find those providers often lacking basic hygiene and that's a problem of it's own.
3. Avoid providers openly advertising BBFS. Those providers would be simply less selective (if selective at all) and their exposure is simply greater. Admittedly 98 Mott is an exception for me in those terms and I would still bareback Gina Rollins if I ever had a chance in the future. Otherwise it's just something ti keep in mind.
4. If it looks and / or smells funky there it is probably not kosher. This one is self explanatory.
5. Take care of yourself. Clean your tool with alcohol after session (hand sanitizer works as well) and get hepatitis vaccination if you did not thus far. Hepatitis is actually more common than you may think.
Not From Here
02-06-19, 21:52
There are 109,000 people with HIV in NYC. Just remember that.Out of a city of 8 million. You might have a greater chance of being arrested.
DR Monger II
02-06-19, 23:59
I was wondering if any of these providers who offer BBFS would admit to being on PREP? I think it would be more safe for us clients if we knew. I heard that Gina Rollins uses PREP.
BigPete1975
02-07-19, 06:23
Out of a city of 8 million. You might have a greater chance of being arrested.If the numbers as right it is actually more than 1%. Pretty high odds!
They are way higher if you consider that you are dealing with a high risk group.
Just saying.
UncleThrax
02-07-19, 09:43
I was wondering if any of these providers who offer BBFS would admit to being on PREP? I think it would be more safe for us clients if we knew. I heard that Gina Rollins uses PREP.My understanding of the way PREP works is that it's effective in preventing transmission whether or not you're HIV+. So not only is meant to be taken by those who are positive, but also to be taken as a preventative measure for those who aren't, and that it would be most effective in a situation where both partners are taking it correctly (not missing doses, etc.).
So it's possible that if a provider is taking PREP, she's merely doing so as a safety precaution.
AnonymousDude1
02-07-19, 18:18
My understanding of the way PREP works is that it's effective in preventing transmission whether or not you're HIV+. So not only is meant to be taken by those who are positive, but also to be taken as a preventative measure for those who aren't, and that it would be most effective in a situation where both partners are taking it correctly (not missing doses, etc.).
So it's possible that if a provider is taking PREP, she's merely doing so as a safety precaution.PREP is only for individuals without HIV, as the regular treatment for HIV is already nearly fully effective at preventing the spread of HIV (at least via sex).
A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?Lisa does allow CIP.
DR Monger II
02-08-19, 22:09
109000/8623000=1. 2640612315% people have HIV in NYC.
Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.
Thanks.I have been going often to the Russian spots in Brooklyn and latin / mix in queens. Meet well enough some of them, who told me how those „houses" and they works. Girls work 6 - 7 days a week (in one location or 2, 3 around the city), they have 8 – 25 clients a day! Depends how busy it is. Which give you about 50 – 100 guys a week. In one month about 300 clients. Girls usually stay in one house up to 6 months which is 1800 clients LOL. Seams a lot, but ones on this forum who had experienced those kinds of houses know that that's the way those spots work.
I talk about those cheap houses where for 120 – 300 you got bare service.
Now do your math how many chances you have to get HIV and STD.
Of course, lady of the house, pimp, the more experienced girl would lie to you. But new girls sometimes tell the truth. I do not talk about Asian places, because girls there don't understand and talk much in English, so I don't know what they even think of.
DR Monger II
02-10-19, 01:31
Dekkyo, what is the truth? How many of these girls that do BBFS have hiv or some other std? No one can know the exact percentages. Does it happen often that a girl with HIV or some other std will provide BBFS knowing that she has the disease?
Dekkyo, what is the truth? How many of these girls that do BBFS have hiv or some other std? No one can know the exact percentages. Does it happen often that a girl with HIV or some other std will provide BBFS knowing that she has the disease?If guy have STD, then he transmits it to the girl and then she transmits is to all her customers. Right?
I think that providers who have STD and HIV or some other diseases are more willing to do BBBJ, BBFS, DATY and so on. A lot of "clean" girls are afraid to catch some STD, so they always use a condom and do not allow DATY. But that one who are already sick. What else they can lose? So they will offer bare to get more clients and more money!
Some providers & hobbyist do not know they are sick, cause they never got tested.
FarFarAway
02-12-19, 13:41
Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.
I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.There shouldn't be too much convo about this on this particular thread, there is another one called safe sex where this belongs. I don't have an opinion about the personal choices you make in this regard, but just some more data. HSV-2 is a viral disease just like HIV, and it is incurable once infected. Condoms are quite effective in reducing the HIV transmission rate, it seems like something similar should apply to HSV-2. Of course, the transmission mechanism and infected cells are different in each case. There is a way to be infected w / HSV-2 (usually called genital herpes) orally, and vice versa. If you get a STD panel, often HSV-1 is included. About 70% of the US population is seropositive for HSV-1. This is cold sores. Many people, including my best friend, are seropositive and have never even had a single cold sore. The infection rate for HSV-2 is in the 15-20% range. However, it varies by age and demographics. You can include that information in assessing your risk. I won't go into details, you can easily get the data from the CDC website (Centers for Disease Control).
FarFarAway
02-13-19, 15:27
Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.
I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.I tried to respond with a lot of content about this, but it is really a topic for the safe sex thread. The admin moved it over there, if you'd like to take a look.
I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.Tested non-reactive at the 7 week mark. Symptoms disappeared a few days afterward. My general physician couldn't find the causes of my symptoms either. The brain is truly odd.
FredBickle
03-10-19, 16:14
So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.
Meticulus9
03-10-19, 19:57
So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.Well there is a drug that suppresses but does not eliminate the outbreak of HSV-2 (e. G. Makes less common).
AsianBaller1
03-10-19, 20:10
So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.Herpes is common. I'm sure most of mongers got it, but didn't know since most people just tested for common and deadly diseases.
I rarely test for hsv (full panel, hsv is not included).
Kgirls are the same as other girls, they are not disease-free. I did get it couple times in my last 6 years (just common stds).
I have gotten once with BBBJ, but that's a rare case with a girl in San Jose.
I'm playing with fires and I'm willing to accept any consequences and that's my mindset. This hobby is not for everybody.
So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.Here is the story for you. I used to party hard back in 2004,2005 and 2006 with couple of single friends as we were all in our low 30 years old age. One night five of us brought one Vietnamese chick and two American girls from a club home. The Vietnamese chick name Linda here for sake of FAKE NAME fucked all three of us all night; it was no hold barred, dick in pussy, mouth, ass and two dicks in vagina just as you would see in porn movies. She serviced all five us at least once and the other two were less hardcore but they still fucked us all the whole night. Some of the civilian out there are crazy. I had a latina chick at Mastero Restaurants in 2007 that fucked me and three of my friends all night. I was the only one wearing condom at all times. I am more scared from some of the civilian.
The problem with Civilian girls is that there is always a DRAMA followed by their craziness the days after or weeks after.
This is based on my experience with M and the recent posts in the past month or two. Has something changed really recently? I am starting to see alot of more reliable reports of BBFS than before. I remember during the pre FOSTA / CV days, the chances of finding a BBFS girl was 40% or lower. I would have to cycle through alot of girls before I finally got it. Now, it seems the rate is 90% or something really high, not that I am complaining. I had quite a few duds last year and previous years from M. The service is better or nastier if you are down. I even got someone who I have seen regularly even swallow. Never had that before but I don't usually do CIM. I tried asking this with Asuka when she was still in LA and she didn't want to do it. Not sure if it was not with me or at all but claimed it was for "health reasons", yet she did CIP. I couldn't understand the logic, but I guess it made sense in hooker logic.Yes-the rate seems to be much HIGHER.
HoleInOne32
03-11-19, 10:42
Herpes is common. I'm sure most of mongers got it, but didn't know since most people just tested for common and deadly diseases.
I rarely test for hsv (full panel, hsv is not included).
Kgirls are the same as other girls, they are not disease-free. I did get it couple times in my last 6 years (just common stds).
I have gotten once with BBBJ, but that's a rare case with a girl in San Jose.
I'm playing with fires and I'm willing to accept any consequences and that's my mindset. This hobby is not for everybody.Agreed AB1. Anyone playing this game over a long period of time will eventually catch something. And we all play because it's addicting and a rush like any other vice.
My hope is any provider I see has effectively taken antibiotics to cure any previous bouts. Also I've read statistics which conclude a very low chance of HIV transmission in the USA via heterosexual contact. But it's certainly on my mind every time I participate.
BBNovice2018
03-11-19, 12:50
So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.It doesn't mean std is rare if you never hear about it and it doesn't mean std is common if you hear a lot about it. What's reported on public board is not the real statistic.
PreEp, which prevent AIDS, seems to also prevent herpes.
FarFarAway
03-23-19, 14:48
My friend met a married MILF on seeking.com. She claimed her husband had been her only partner after meeting him at 18, until he suggested she play w / 1 other guy 2 years ago. Seemed pretty safe. For logistical reasons, their private meeting didn't include intercourse, but he did go down on her. The next day he had GI upset, upper and lower, and after a few days goes to the doctor and is diagnosed w / an intestinal parasite. A long course of antibiotics, and tense moments when the doctor's office leaves a voicemail message that prompts his SO to wonder where he got this. The lady in question spends a fair amount of time in Asia.
New to this board, not to the hobby, been on TNA for a while. Glad I found this guide! Wonder why I dint find it sooner and why TNA blocks explicit posts. Excited to see so many providers doing BBFS!! Got to get tips from why'al, how do you go with BBFS? Like, how do you not get an STD without using a condom doing BBFS? Cheers!
SeeMeDougie
04-28-19, 00:29
Has any of you all had a dream and had a BBBJ cim then caught something. I might just be nervous for no reason but I think my mind is playing tricks on me. Nothing burns. Jacking off is fine just curious if any of you that roll the dice more often have caught anything.
MongerMan804
04-28-19, 09:30
Has any of you all had a dream and had a BBBJ cim then caught something. I might just be nervous for no reason but I think my mind is playing tricks on me. Nothing burns. Jacking off is fine just curious if any of you that roll the dice more often have caught anything.You can get Chlamydia and Gonnorea from oral sex. Go get tested and get treated if you are worried about it.
Has any of you all had a dream and had a BBBJ cim then caught something. I might just be nervous for no reason but I think my mind is playing tricks on me. Nothing burns. Jacking off is fine just curious if any of you that roll the dice more often have caught anything.No, but get yourself checked.
JustLonely
05-29-19, 14:39
I used this company for a 10 panel test. Got my results back the next day. Real easy as you prepay that company. Then go to any Lab Corp location for the blood and urine draw. They send your samples off at 1 pm to a nearby lab. By 1 pm the next day I had a pdf file of my results.
First test I ever had in this hobby I started in 1983. A lot of BBFS over the years for me. I passed on some opportunities with questionable women but plenty of nameless BP & CL women who see lots of men so I would say I was lucky to not pick up anything other than Clap a few years back.
I don't know why I'm wondering this. But has anyone actually gotten an STD/ STI from a massage girl or escort? Herpes? I feel like this forum is a good sample size.
Whats the benefit of doing this? Why not just use your doctor or clinic? Doesn't hippa prevent anyone from knowing? Will using insurance come back to haunt you? I seriously don't know.
I used this company for a 10 panel test. Got my results back the next day. Real easy as you prepay that company. Then go to any Lab Corp location for the blood and urine draw. They send your samples off at 1 pm to a nearby lab. By 1 pm the next day I had a pdf file of my results.
First test I ever had in this hobby I started in 1983. A lot of BBFS over the years for me. I passed on some opportunities with questionable women but plenty of nameless BP & CL women who see lots of men so I would say I was lucky to not pick up anything other than Clap a few years back.
BBFS.
I think it might be go time this weekend fellas, my 1st BBFS LOL.
Quick question for my safety tho. Do you guys normally ask to see the girls std screenings or do they ask for yours? I assume they don't care as long as they see the green! Comments please.
BBFS.
I think it might be go time this weekend fellas, my 1st BBFS LOL.
Quick question for my safety tho. Do you guys normally ask to see the girls std screenings or do they ask for yours? I assume they don't care as long as they see the green! Comments please.When I'm about to see someone lets say the little head does the thinking and to this day I've never asked for std screenings and girls don't really ask to see mine. The most they'll do is ask if the last time I went to the doctor that everything checked out.
Ahhh copy, in the heat of the moment.
Thanks Chris93!
Ahhh copy, in the heat of the moment.
Thanks Chris93!No problem man just stick it in once you get the ok don't over think it's usually a boner killer that's why I turn my brain off but if you see any signs that don't look good step back better to be safe and have blue balls then get a possible std.
Hey, have a question wanted opinions from you guys.
I have a good SB of over one year, and we have BBFS, DATY and DFK during intimacy. Recently she had her first 10 panel STD test and surprisingly she is HSV1 positive. I got worried and tested mine and is clean, like before. She never had any genital symptoms but did have cold sores before.
So could her HSV-1 from cold sore instead of sexaul transmission? Can we stil do DATY and BB or must use cover now.
Also, heard 50-70% of worlds population has HSV1 positive- that to me means HSV-1 must transmitted other than sex, if so should it even be considered STD?
Comment?
GovernorsClub
06-22-19, 16:51
There are eight Herpetic viruses. Herpes simplex type 1 is not considered a sexually transmitted disease. It typically resides in the trigeminal ganglion and when activated typically (99%) travels to the mouth, lip, face but on occasion (1%) can take a detour to the eye or eyelid and that can be bad news. HSV type 2 is more characteristically is a sexually transmitted disease. Genital to genital. HSV type 1 can infect skin if you have an open wound or sore leading to Herpetic Whitlow so you would want to be safe as active oral HSV 1 could contaminate an open wound if that person did not already have antibody resistance to HSV 1 from previous exposure. As most people over 20 do. Originally thought to be 95% of people over 20, it is now thought to be about 70% but this is easily identified on a blood draw looking for IgG HSV1 - and this is again, not considered sexually transmitted. Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a different herpetic virus. Reactivated Chicken Pox. And while it is not sexually transmitted, if you are over 50, you need the new 2-part vaccination. Even if you have had previous shingles or the previous, less-effective vaccination. Should you develop an STD, HZV infection is more likely to develop particularly if it is from HIV. Stay safe.
Hey, have a question wanted opinions from you guys.
I have a good SB of over one year, and we have BBFS, DATY and DFK during intimacy. Recently she had her first 10 panel STD test and surprisingly she is HSV1 positive. I got worried and tested mine and is clean, like before. She never had any genital symptoms but did have cold sores before.
So could her HSV-1 from cold sore instead of sexaul transmission? Can we stil do DATY and BB or must use cover now.
Also, heard 50-70% of worlds population has HSV1 positive- that to me means HSV-1 must transmitted other than sex, if so should it even be considered STD?
Comment?
There are eight Herpetic viruses. Herpes simplex type 1 is not considered a sexually transmitted disease. It typically resides in the trigeminal ganglion and when activated typically (99%) travels to the mouth, lip, face but on occasion (1%) can take a detour to the eye or eyelid and that can be bad news. HSV type 2 is more characteristically is a sexually transmitted disease. Genital to genital. HSV type 1 can infect skin if you have an open wound or sore leading to Herpetic Whitlow so you would want to be safe as active oral HSV 1 could contaminate an open wound if that person did not already have antibody resistance to HSV 1 from previous exposure. As most people over 20 do. Originally thought to be 95% of people over 20, it is now thought to be about 70% but this is easily identified on a blood draw looking for IgG HSV1 - and this is again, not considered sexually transmitted. Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a different herpetic virus. Reactivated Chicken Pox. And while it is not sexually transmitted, if you are over 50, you need the new 2-part vaccination. Even if you have had previous shingles or the previous, less-effective vaccination. Should you develop an STD, HZV infection is more likely to develop particularly if it is from HIV. Stay safe.Thanks! That is very informative.
Cephlapod Love
07-22-19, 14:13
I've used this service. It was 100% anonymous. Went to a LabCorp location. No ID needed and I got my results in 2 days via e-mail.
https://www.stdcheck.com/std-test-pricing.phpThanks for posting that. You stepped on a 'hot button' for me, so I'll pull out the old soapbox.
On the STD thread elsewhere on this site, there still is a fair amount of ignorance surrounding HIV testing. Oh and I run into it with girls as well. When HIV was first discovered and the big scare went, out the only tools available for detection were the Gen 1 & 2 antibody tests. But like brick cell phones, technology marches on and now we are up to Gen 4 testing and optional RNA testing. The point is that exposure to HIV can now be detected as soon as 9-11 days after exposure / infection. That is because the RNA test actually looks for or detects the virus. The 'old" tests looked for antibodies, made by the immune system in response to the virus. In some people it took their bodies / immune systems up to 3 months to produce antibodies. Gen 4 testing looks for antibodies AND antigens and the antigens appear and this can be detected much sooner than antibodies. So new tech finds the actual virus sooner.
So no more of this: "You have to get tested and be clean, then wait & be celibate or monogamous another 3-months for one to 'truly' know they are free of HIV!" OK? Got iT? If you want to know go get the Gen 4 testing. If you REALLY need to know NOW- get the RNA testing!
This is a nice quick summary from that link:
What are the differences between the HIV RNA test and the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test?
The HIV RNA test can detect HIV sooner than any other HIV test; as early as 9-11 days after exposure. The HIV 4th Generation Antibody test can detect HIV 2-3 weeks after exposure. The HIV RNA test detects the HIV virus in the blood by seeking out its genetic material (RNA), whereas the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test detects HIV antibodies and antigens. Antibodies are proteins created by the body's immune system to try to destroy foreign substances like bacteria or viruses, in this case HIV. Antigens are the foreign substances that cause an immune response-- the HIV Antibody test detects HIV p24 antigens. .
Now as far as that site being "private?" I dunno? You want that lab showing up as a charge on the permanent record with your Credit Card company? Are you going to be able to get results sent to hobby email? Will you have to show I'd at the test center? Looks like they use Quest Diagnosis and Lab Corp as the phlebotomists.
If you want an education about the history of HIV testing, to cure any personal ignorance or conteract false "beliefs" one has picked up in the locker room, go here:
https://cvi.asm.org/content/23/4/249
Attached is a table that shows the Generations of HIV Testing.
While ignorance maybe bliss, education & knowledge will keep you safe.
Thanks for posting that. You stepped on a 'hot button' for me, so I'll pull out the old soapbox.
On the STD thread elsewhere on this site, there still is a fair amount of ignorance surrounding HIV testing. Oh and I run into it with girls as well. When HIV was first discovered and the big scare went, out the only tools available for detection were the Gen 1 & 2 antibody tests. But like brick cell phones, technology marches on and now we are up to Gen 4 testing and optional RNA testing. The point is that exposure to HIV can now be detected as soon as 9-11 days after exposure / infection. That is because the RNA test actually looks for or detects the virus. The 'old" tests looked for antibodies, made by the immune system in response to the virus. In some people it took their bodies / immune systems up to 3 months to produce antibodies. Gen 4 testing looks for antibodies AND antigens and the antigens appear and this can be detected much sooner than antibodies. So new tech finds the actual virus sooner.
So no more of this: "You have to get tested and be clean, then wait & be celibate or monogamous another 3-months for one to 'truly' know they are free of HIV!" OK? Got iT? If you want to know go get the Gen 4 testing. If you REALLY need to know NOW- get the RNA testing!
This is a nice quick summary from that link:
What are the differences between the HIV RNA test and the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test?
The HIV RNA test can detect HIV sooner than any other HIV test; as early as 9-11 days after exposure. The HIV 4th Generation Antibody test can detect HIV 2-3 weeks after exposure. The HIV RNA test detects the HIV virus in the blood by seeking out its genetic material (RNA), whereas the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test detects HIV antibodies and antigens. Antibodies are proteins created by the body's immune system to try to destroy foreign substances like bacteria or viruses, in this case HIV. Antigens are the foreign substances that cause an immune response-- the HIV Antibody test detects HIV p24 antigens. .
Now as far as that site being "private?" I dunno? You want that lab showing up as a charge on the permanent record with your Credit Card company? Are you going to be able to get results sent to hobby email? Will you have to show I'd at the test center? Looks like they use Quest Diagnosis and Lab Corp as the phlebotomists.
If you want an education about the history of HIV testing, to cure any personal ignorance or conteract false "beliefs" one has picked up in the locker room, go here:
https://cvi.asm.org/content/23/4/249
Attached is a table that shows the Generations of HIV Testing.
While ignorance maybe bliss, education & knowledge will keep you safe.I really do appreciate the detailed information, you could literally spend hours looking for info like that and still not find it. Seems way counter productive to me. Meaning making info like that hard to find. Has anyone had experience at the county / state clinic? Not sure who runs it but the one in Wilmington. What exactly do they make you do?
Ive thought about just going once every other month or so just as a precaution but want to know ahead of time just how handsy theyll be.
You know the system is broke if I even have to ask that. If they wanted to stop of these diseases they would just let anyone be tested no questions asked. Addicts would never show up and they literally are their target market. How to fuck up public health.....
Deleted this part because I was drunk and stupid. Life happens.
Cephlapod Love
07-23-19, 11:26
I really do appreciate the detailed information, you could literally spend hours looking for info like that and still not find it. Seems way counter productive to me. Meaning making info like that hard to find. Has anyone had experience at the county / state clinic? Not sure who runs it but the one in Wilmington. What exactly do they make you do?
Ive thought about just going once every other month or so just as a precaution but want to know ahead of time just how handsy theyll be.
You know the system is broke if I even have to ask that. If they wanted to stop of these diseases they would just let anyone be tested no questions asked. Addicts would never show up and they literally are their target market. How to fuck up public health.....
Deleted this part because I was drunk and stupid. Life happens.Girl told me the other day that there is free testing at the BCC clinic on uLA for HIV & HepC!. So I looked it up! They have a "drop in" clinic open Monday – Friday 7 am to 12 pm.
https://www.brandywinecounseling.com/drop-in-center/
Get a clean bill of health & perhaps find a date while your there? LOL!
Girl told me the other day that there is free testing at the BCC clinic on uLA for HIV & HepC!. So I looked it up! They have a "drop in" clinic open Monday Friday 7 am to 12 pm.
https://www.brandywinecounseling.com/drop-in-center/
Get a clean bill of health & perhaps find a date while your there? LOL!I used a location in CC. Last time was a year or so ago. This visit was a result of a failed latex product.
I used it before maybe 10 years ago, been there awhile. They do ask a lot of information on sexual history.
Before you had to return for results now you're in and out with results.
Now, not even a uncovered BJ. There is just too much risk. You are more likely to contract other STD's than the dreaded one.
Cephlapod Love
07-23-19, 17:13
There are eight Herpetic viruses. Herpes simplex type 1 is not considered a sexually transmitted disease. It typically resides in the trigeminal ganglion and when activated typically (99%) travels to the mouth, lip, face but on occasion (1%) can take a detour to the eye or eyelid and that can be bad news. HSV type 2 is more characteristically is a sexually transmitted disease. Genital to genital. HSV type 1 can infect skin if you have an open wound or sore leading to Herpetic Whitlow so you would want to be safe as active oral HSV 1 could contaminate an open wound if that person did not already have antibody resistance to HSV 1 from previous exposure. As most people over 20 do. Originally thought to be 95% of people over 20, it is now thought to be about 70% but this is easily identified on a blood draw looking for IgG HSV1 - and this is again, not considered sexually transmitted. Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a different herpetic virus. Reactivated Chicken Pox. And while it is not sexually transmitted, if you are over 50, you need the new 2-part vaccination. Even if you have had previous shingles or the previous, less-effective vaccination. Should you develop an STD, HZV infection is more likely to develop particularly if it is from HIV. Stay safe.Actually they are looking at Herpesvirus as a cause or co-morbidity for Alzheimer's Disease.
https://www.alzforum.org/news/conference-coverage/herpesvirus-trigger-many-brain-pathologies
Cephlapod Love
07-23-19, 18:25
Now, not even a uncovered BJ. There is just too much risk. You are more likely to contract other STD's than the dreaded one.OK are we going to go down this path?
The way one plays with a girl is a personal choice and basically hinges on how one perceives risk. Everyone is different and generally humans are terrible at proper perception of and management of risk. Everyone is allowed to make their own judgements, however.
Yes, transmission rates from women to men are VERY low for HIV. Especially important is having in tact, uncompromised, skin on your penis. The skin was designed to be a barrier and a pretty good one at that. However, if there are cuts, scrapes, rashes, abrasion or worn down skin the barrier can be compromised and less effective.
But of course as the conservatives want you to know. You can't catch an STD if one stays in a monogamous relationship with a clean / tested girl. Oh and condoms help too!
What gets me is when people make judgements based on bad information, rumor or innuendo.
The statement "There is too much risk" is not absolutely true.
I'll refer to this statement from a post on this site, thanks to FooteRoger for doing all of the work:
Frankly, the epidemiology does not support that bareback sex is particularly dangerous. The risk of pregnancy can, of course, be high. I have the opportunity to read quite a few studies in my course of work. I've posted a rough summary to the following image. He provides a link to the source of his info, Picture link is dead now. I had a copy of that photo but was on a disk that crashed. See below to see the level of women to me "risk!
Post # 734 http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3179369&viewfull=1#post3179369.
Correction on the Herpes HSV2 no condom transmission rate. Should read. 015% or 1/6700 sex acts.
Post # 737 http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3180791&viewfull=1#post3180791.
Now this is key - Do not continue this discussion here.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3643384&viewfull=1#post3643384.
If one posts safe sex discussions in the normal threads two things happen:
1) It starts a fire storm of "opinions" and flame wars.
So Admin does NOT want a bunch of arguing clogging up reports on girls, so he set up this place where the discussion can take place. One is free to discuss Safe Sex practices or lack thereof there.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice/..
No need to hold back on one's essay there!
2) The post gets taken down by the Admin. I know this for a fact.
I think everyone should examine the facts surrounding the issue as to re-evaluate the actual risks involved. If one can be objective, set fear aside and rationally examine the facts, then perhaps one might change their beliefs?
Stay safe
P.S. My "tomes" on this topic can be found below. I have pounded the table on this topic over the years:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3643384&viewfull=1#post3643384.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645291&viewfull=1#post3645291.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645325&viewfull=1#post3645325.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645346&viewfull=1#post3645346.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3653620&viewfull=1#post3653620.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3653726&viewfull=1#post3653726.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3653765&viewfull=1#post3653765.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3666532&viewfull=1#post3666532.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3675966&viewfull=1#post3675966.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3701252&viewfull=1#post3701252.
Pawg Hunter
07-24-19, 20:12
Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked but its hard to search this thread, how safe am I doing everything covered (including BJ)? I've seen around 20 providers over the years and I always used a condom for everything I HAVE NOT caught a single std thank god. However, I wasnt aware of the skin on skin stds like herpes or the clap at that time. I do belive I got a fungal infection from a provider before but it wasnt classified as an std and a simple cream got rid of it.
I'm asking because I haven't been into the hobby for about 4 years and am about start again. I'm going to stick to seeing one girl only that claims to do everything covered, not even BBBJ. I'm hoping this will be the safest route.
GoodLagerBeer
07-25-19, 18:54
Thanks for posting that. You stepped on a 'hot button' for me, so I'll pull out the old soapbox.
On the STD thread elsewhere on this site, there still is a fair amount of ignorance surrounding HIV testing. Oh and I run into it with girls as well. When HIV was first discovered and the big scare went, out the only tools available for detection were the Gen 1 & 2 antibody tests. But like brick cell phones, technology marches on and now we are up to Gen 4 testing and optional RNA testing. The point is that exposure to HIV can now be detected as soon as 9-11 days after exposure / infection. That is because the RNA test actually looks for or detects the virus. The 'old" tests looked for antibodies, made by the immune system in response to the virus. In some people it took their bodies / immune systems up to 3 months to produce antibodies. Gen 4 testing looks for antibodies AND antigens and the antigens appear and this can be detected much sooner than antibodies. So new tech finds the actual virus sooner.
So no more of this: "You have to get tested and be clean, then wait & be celibate or monogamous another 3-months for one to 'truly' know they are free of HIV!" OK? Got iT? If you want to know go get the Gen 4 testing. If you REALLY need to know NOW- get the RNA testing!
This is a nice quick summary from that link:.I've used privatemdlabs in the past. Great site.
To add on, HIV treatment is at the point where you can get to detection levels these standard tests can't detect. That isn't a cure, but essentially you can't pass it on with such low levels and it won't progress at that point. Unfortunately, not everyone has access to insurance so those engaging in risky behavior should understand the risk is there.
It is pretty difficult to acquire HIV too. If exchange of bodily fluids during sexual activity did not occur inside the body, the risk is zero according to less conservative professionals. If you have a fresh wound, exchange of fluids does pose a risk since it has direct access to your blood stream. Fresh and open are the key words since something from a couple hours ago has already sealed up. However this is assuming the other person is leaking enough bodily fluid onto the wound. I'm sure we all know HIV dies once it contacts air which is why unprotected sex and direct access to open wounds are the biggest risks.
Has anyone got tested for STD? Please let me know if it can be done anonymously?
I am thinking to get tested now just to know my status. I don't have any symptoms though.
I found this site.
https://www.stdcheck.com
Has any one tried it?
Has anyone got tested for STD? Please let me know if it can be done anonymously?
I am thinking to get tested now just to know my status. I don't have any symptoms though.
I found this site.
https://www.stdcheck.com
Has any one tried it?I've used the site. Easy breezy. They claim private, but it's definitely not anonymous -- they need your name and billing info for payment. Not sure if there is a way around that with pre-paid debit cards and fake info. I haven't tried. Maybe someone else here knows.
I've also used planned parenthood and paid cash to keep the tests off of my insurance.
So I'm trying to get some input on what most of you think is the best condom for getting sensation and feeling like nothing is there.
Several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti super thin it had a black and purple box and wrap her they were polyurethane not late to ask if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years and quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried a door Rex skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling.
Several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti superthin it had a black and purple box and wrap or they were polyurethane not latex if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years and quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried a Durex skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti superthin it had a black and purple box and wrap or they were polyurethane not latex if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years I have quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried Doryx skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling.
Can any of you give me your suggestions or condoms that you use that wall not is good is going bareback or at least as close as were going to get and still do it safely in my experience the polyurethane ones are better as they are thinner also I'm trying to find something I can buy off-the-shelf in the store like many of you I have a significant other I have been fixed and any record of me buying a condom would be a big no-no so it's got to be something I can buy off-the-shelf at a pharmacy or drugstore or adult bookstore and pay cash. Thanks.
I want to encourage ALL my fellow mongers to strap it up and be careful. Seen on Twitter two weeks ago about a new std. A new strain of gonorrhea that turns into a DGI and becomes fatal, this strain was exclusive to Asian countries and is now in Michigan on the west side of the state. The tweet went on to say it was from an EXTREMELY popular FS AMP on the west side of the state. I paid it no mind until I seen on Channel 4 news today about the STD.
I know a lot of us have property up north or on the west side of the state so please keep that in mind when visiting AMP's especially out that way. Fellas cover up and be safe.
I want to encourage ALL my fellow mongers to strap it up and be careful. Seen on Twitter two weeks ago about a new std. A new strain of gonorrhea that turns into a DGI and becomes fatal, this strain was exclusive to Asian countries and is now in Michigan on the west side of the state. The tweet went on to say it was from an EXTREMELY popular FS AMP on the west side of the state. I paid it no mind until I seen on Channel 4 news today about the STD.
I know a lot of us have property up north or on the west side of the state so please keep that in mind when visiting AMP's especially out that way. Fellas cover up and be safe.Cover it and be careful out there. This is scary.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/08/23/gonorrhea-michigan-symptoms-std/2095492001/
So I'm trying to get some input on what most of you think is the best condom for getting sensation and feeling like nothing is there.
Several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti super thin it had a black and purple box and wrap her they were polyurethane not late to ask if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years and quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried a door Rex skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling.
Several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti superthin it had a black and purple box and wrap or they were polyurethane not latex if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years and quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried a Durex skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti superthin it had a black and purple box and wrap or they were polyurethane not latex if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years I have quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried Doryx skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling..The thinnest condom made, and also I believe polyurethane, is the Sagami condoms. These condoms are either 0.02 or 0.01 thick, whereas most condoms sold in the USA are around 0.07 for regular ones and 0.04 for the "thin" ones. I bought some off of eBay and they are expensive. You can also get them off of Amazon. Not sure if they are FDA approved yet, so not likely in stores. Maybe sex shops? Also, since they are designed for the Japanese market might make some sense to buy the large ones. After all Thailand hookers joke about Japanese clients- 555 -500 baht, 5-minutes and 5-inches!.
I don't usually use a hat with my GF, but when mongering cover up. So I am not use to hats and thus one brand feels the same as any other to me. That said, many swear the thinner condom has a better feel.
The highest ranked condoms on Condom Depot are the Crown Skinless, Kimono and Beyond Seven. These have a better feel that traditional Trojans or Durex or the free condoms the girls have that they get at the clinics.
John Dough
09-20-19, 19:33
The thinnest condom made, and also I believe polyurethane, is the Sagami condoms. These condoms are either 0.02 or 0.01 thickThe Sagami 0.01 condom is actually 0.018 mm thick. It is made of polyurethane that doesn't stretch, so it is best for men who fit a slim condom. The Unique Pull is 0.015 mm thick and is a wider fit but also doesn't stretch. It is made in Colombia and is available online at Lucky Bloke.
https://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest-condoms/thinnest-condoms
The Sagami 0.01 condom is actually 0.018 mm thick. It is made of polyurethane that doesn't stretch, so it is best for men who fit a slim condom. The Unique Pull is 0.015 mm thick and is a wider fit but also doesn't stretch. It is made in Colombia and is available online at Lucky Bloke.
https://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest-condoms/thinnest-condomsI believe Sagami makes a larger versions that would be best for USA dudes because Japanese apparently are "below average". That is what I get the L-size.
I believe the polyurethane is suppose to transmit heat better than latex and thus a better feeling.
Wonder if anyone can actually feel the difference between 0. 018 and 0. 015 thickness? That 0. 003 mm difference!
Sagami can be found on eBay and Amazon, fwiw. But either one is a vast improvement over your standard drug store condom.
Sounds like things are getting out of hand.
Fifty years ago mongering was so much more fun.
If you want to go BB you just have to find the right partner.
Some states have laws that it's a crime if you know you have and active STD and you willingly give it to someone.
Doesn't seem to matter.
Get treated and then continue BB mongering if you must.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stds-at-all-time-high-cdc-warns-syphilis-gonorrhea-chlamydia-sexually-transmitted-disease-cases-reach-record/
Be safe, guys.
QuestBMuffin
12-02-19, 11:41
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!
AsianBaller1
12-02-19, 15:48
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!Mine sharing who did you see recently? Or past month?
Stay safe brothers.
This could circle back to the last time you get checked to now.
Maggot Brain
12-02-19, 16:38
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!Egads. Who did you fuck at The Palace within the last month? It was Pepsi wasn't it?
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!I'm still waiting on my results (chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis minus HSV test). HIV was negative but last girl I saw was 2 days before so I'll get it done again in a couple of weeks. I'll get full blood work done after the holidays. For incubation window purposes. If you want to know who I saw, PM me.
SafetyVest
12-02-19, 18:03
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!I got tested recently and I have chlamydia as well. I think I'm going to take a break for a while and not risk it.
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!Think you should put this post on the health thread too and report the girls you've seen so mongers can be more aware. As far as palace, the girls were always kinda seedy. I always wore protection when I saw the palace vets. In any case, regular testing is the key like what you did. If you got the money to burn, you can also buy Truvada and take them before a session as a precaution. Hey, we in this game knowing the risks right. No sense playing game if you're not a gambler. LOL.
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!For your disclosure. Posting is indeed invaluable.
QuestBMuffin
12-03-19, 01:14
Mine sharing who did you see recently? Or past month?
Stay safe brothers.
This could circle back to the last time you get checked to now.I posted about all of them, but the only one I didn't was Soy from 6 shop.
Another user confirmed a similar experience and only saw Nina, so I suspect it's her and that's what's she's been out for treatment. Play at your own risk folks.
QuestBMuffin
12-03-19, 01:17
For your disclosure. Posting is indeed invaluable.Yeah I figured you guys deserved to know. We all try to stay safe but hey it happens.
This helps us all to know.
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!
BBNovice2018
12-03-19, 09:11
Chlamydia is not a big deal. You should be able to get it clear up quickly. Take care!
Well the clinic called from my appt last week and I have been informed I have chlamydia. No symptoms either I just went in for my regular check up due to this hobby and they caught it from the urine sample.
I had second thoughts about posting this but hey info is valuable. You can probably scan my post history to see who I've BB'd recently in case you are concerned. (Angels, 6 shop, palace. Fuck I just realized BBBJ is a contagion point huh) Fair warning to all but you can bet my ass I'll be back once this clears up in a week!
You can check his post history to see who he might have seen recently, which does include comments about Jenny and Nina. Might explain their recent hiatus. I'm not sure if the timing of one of the posts include seeing them post their hiatus though. ?
Think you should put this post on the health thread too and report the girls you've seen so mongers can be more aware. As far as palace, the girls were always kinda seedy. I always wore protection when I saw the palace vets. In any case, regular testing is the key like what you did. If you got the money to burn, you can also buy Truvada and take them before a session as a precaution. Hey, we in this game knowing the risks right. No sense playing game if you're not a gambler. LOL.
BBNovice2018
12-03-19, 12:37
A good gambler will always try to stack the odds in their favor. Regular testing is one thing that helps your odd of staying out of too much trouble. Generic Truvada is not that expensive but I am not sure if it will improve your odd much (because HIV is pretty rare) and the side effect can be pretty bad.
Think you should put this post on the health thread too and report the girls you've seen so mongers can be more aware. As far as palace, the girls were always kinda seedy. I always wore protection when I saw the palace vets. In any case, regular testing is the key like what you did. If you got the money to burn, you can also buy Truvada and take them before a session as a precaution. Hey, we in this game knowing the risks right. No sense playing game if you're not a gambler. LOL.
In the light of this conversation, does anyone know for a fact if the ladies in these agencies get regularly tested too?
These girls need to suck a dozen dicks a day. I doubt they have health benefits.
In the light of this conversation, does anyone know for a fact if the ladies in these agencies get regularly tested too?
You guys with chlamydia recently, do you drink lots of water after fucking, and flush your system?
I always drink lots of water and piss frequently for 2 days post sex so the bacteria has less of a chance to latch on and proliferate.
Seriousfun
12-03-19, 18:28
Nina 11/13 (I had a great time!) Getting tested tomorrow!
I posted about all of them, but the only one I didn't was Soy from 6 shop.
Another user confirmed a similar experience and only saw Nina, so I suspect it's her and that's what's she's been out for treatment. Play at your own risk folks.
Guess the bb thread is now officially the health thread. LOL. In all seriousness, glad you guys are posting. I do wonder sometimes if the affected girls like Nina and Jenny's business takes a hit with all the health scare going on. I hope they get treated and business does not suffer. If the sexy site suddenly closes, we sure know the answer. LOL.
You guys with chlamydia recently, do you drink lots of water after fucking, and flush your system?
I always drink lots of water and piss frequently for 2 days post sex so the bacteria has less of a chance to latch on and proliferate.Cranberry juice would be more effective.
One kgirl I talked to told me how she gets tested nearly every 3 weeks. Idk about other kgirls, but it would be wrong to assume that they don't take care of themselves at all. Also I find it very odd on how many mongers here don't get themselves tested and are practically 'living-walking venereal diseases'. Tons of free health clinics that do full STD panel, so really there is no excuse to not get tested, especially at places where you can get it done for free.
In the light of this conversation, does anyone know for a fact if the ladies in these agencies get regularly tested too?
These girls are not as busy as you may assume. Also there are tons of low cost health clinics that can easily serve them. Tons of clinics with Korean speaking staff in the Ktown area as well. They may not have the same type of benefits that you would get through your employer, but they do sure take care of themselves.
These girls need to suck a dozen dicks a day. I doubt they have health benefits.
You guys with chlamydia recently, do you drink lots of water after fucking, and flush your system?
I always drink lots of water and piss frequently for 2 days post sex so the bacteria has less of a chance to latch on and proliferate.You are making your chances better of remaining STD-free if you pee right after (within a few minutes, do it before you take final shower at 55 minute mark) I also encourage the girls to pee too after sex.
RandysDonut
12-03-19, 23:42
I got Chlamydia twice in this hobby too. Can't say for sure which girls but I feel like it was with one of booker Cherry's girls at least one of the times. Easy to clear up but annoying to get it and pain in the ass getting a prescription. Second time I did however find an online clinic that will prescribe based on symptoms you describe and then call in prescription to local pharmacy for you to pick up. Awesome service, no need to go to the clinic. The website is called Push Health if anyone needs it.
The problem with Chlamydia is you usually aren't symptomatic until about 2 weeks after contraction, so you are running around spreading it before you are aware you have it.
Think you should put this post on the health thread too and report the girls you've seen so mongers can be more aware. As far as palace, the girls were always kinda seedy. I always wore protection when I saw the palace vets. In any case, regular testing is the key like what you did. If you got the money to burn, you can also buy Truvada and take them before a session as a precaution. Hey, we in this game knowing the risks right. No sense playing game if you're not a gambler. LOL.I've looked through all the threads and couldn't find a "Health" Thread. What are you referring to? Do you have the actual thread name?
CellTechhhs
12-04-19, 03:37
Where to ya'll go to get tested?
BBNovice2018
12-04-19, 12:14
Whoever caught it could have given it to many others. I will just get tested and do CFS for this month, until this blow over.
PlutoKiller
12-04-19, 12:16
I posted about all of them, but the only one I didn't was Soy from 6 shop.
Another user confirmed a similar experience and only saw Nina, so I suspect it's her and that's what's she's been out for treatment. Play at your own risk folks.Did you inform the bookers of the gals you have seen just before and after you got tested?
PlutoKiller
12-04-19, 12:27
Whoever caught it could have given it to many others. I will just get tested and do CFS for this month, until this blow over. After that I will go see Nina and Jenny when they return. They will be well rested and hungry for business..You still can get it from a BBBJ.
Whoever caught it could have given it to many others. I will just get tested and do CFS for this month, until this blow over. After that I will go see Nina and Jenny when they return. They will be well rested and hungry for business. .I can't speak for Nina but I'm sure it's not Jenny. I've seen her multiple times during the time period we're talking about and have had absolutely no sign of any infections. My cock, fingers and tongue have explored every inch of her body, inside and out and after my regular testing I'm clean as a whistle. She was off for several days but that was due to aunt Flow and not long enough to be because of anything else. I also have heard from several mongers that BBFS has become YMMV with her also. Not as easy as some seem to think. I know this may be anecdotal, as are all the recent reports, but I had to add my two cents and personal experience to this discussion.
KingNoctis
12-04-19, 16:08
As long as its not HIV then its all good! Chlamydia can be treated and goes away!
I hope people will speak out as well if there ever was an HIV outbreak.
To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.
Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?
V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.
As long as its not HIV then its all good! Chlamydia can be treated and goes away!
I hope people will speak out as well if there ever was an HIV outbreak.
To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.
Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?
V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.The panic that HIV caused in the early eighties was blown so out of proportion. That's when unprotected sex became this dangerous thing to be afraid of. The reality is that HIV is rarely spread between heterosexual men and women and more rarely spread from women to men. That's a statistical fact straight from the CDC. The spreading of HIV is primarily from those sharing drug injection equipment. Homosexual men or from men to women. You have much less of a chance of contracting HIV than being hit by a car on the freeway on your way to visit the girls. HIV is no longer a death sentence but a car crash certainly can be. In all my years in the hobby at this level I never heard of one case of HIV being contracted. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened but not on any level comparable to those being killed on the freeways of L. A. Let's keep everything in perspective and not let our imaginations run amok. You would be making yourself safer by keeping your car in the garage than you would by not fucking a hot Korean (or any other nationality) girl.
QuestBMuffin
12-04-19, 22:06
To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.
Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?
V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.Chances are extremely small from heterosexual intercourse, and it's no longer a death sentence by any stretch of the imagination. This is not a concern for me at all.
To these girls getting creamed dozens of time each day know that if one of us had HIV, they would probably be infected? And yes I know it's not easy to catch but still.
Are they like "fuck it, I'll take the risk. Money is too good" ? Are they on PREP? Does Korea have such low HIV figures that it's not really seen as a serious concern?
V curious about all this. Because I can somewhat understand fucking for money. But fucking for money WITHOUT protection, and getting paid the same $? Seems like a total kamikaze move.I think BBFS has been going on for awhile now in korea. I know it's available in select high end tokyo brothels also but generally they only provide that to locals (and its expensive around 700 for 2 hours but they are true young and pretty 21 year olds). The sex industry in tokyo is a sprawling network. Thousands of providers available daily, hundreds of managers, agents, and scouts keeping things moving. I'm pretty sure it's similar in korea. If there were instances of providers getting HIV from a customer I'm sure the story would spread like wildfire and BBFS would instantly be off the menu there. But it hasn't seemed to happen yet. Maybe it will in the future but hasn't yet so it's still on the menu. I think that's how some of the korean providers feel about BBFS in LA and SF in terms of the risk of HIV infection. It's a risk but a seemingly low risk since they actually haven't had to deal with it yet or even heard from yet from anyone they know (knock on wood). And I'm sure the moneys much better than if they only provided CFS.
The panic that HIV caused in the early eighties was blown so out of proportion. That's when unprotected sex became this dangerous thing to be afraid of. The reality is that HIV is rarely spread between heterosexual men and women and more rarely spread from women to men. That's a statistical fact straight from the CDC. The spreading of HIV is primarily from those sharing drug injection equipment. Homosexual men or from men to women. You have much less of a chance of contracting HIV than being hit by a car on the freeway on your way to visit the girls. HIV is no longer a death sentence but a car crash certainly can be. In all my years in the hobby at this level I never heard of one case of HIV being contracted. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened but not on any level comparable to those being killed on the freeways of L. A. Let's keep everything in perspective and not let our imaginations run amok. You would be making yourself safer by keeping your car in the garage than you would by not fucking a hot Korean (or any other nationality) girl.How can I prevent getting HIV from anal or vaginal sex?
Use condoms the right way every time you have sex, take medicines to prevent or treat HIV if appropriate, choose less risky sexual behaviors, get tested for other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and limit your number of sex partners. The more of these actions you take, the safer you can be.
Specifically, you can:
Use condoms the right way every time you have sex (see How well do condoms prevent HIV? Learn the right way to use a male condom. Reduce your number of sexual partners. This can lower your chances of having a sex partner who will transmit HIV to you. The more partners you have, the more likely you are to have a partner with HIV whose viral load is not suppressed or to have a sex partner with a sexually transmitted disease. Both of these factors can increase the risk of HIV transmission.
Talk to your doctor about pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), taking HIV medicines daily to prevent HIV infection, if you are at very high risk for HIV. PrEP should be considered if you are HIV-negative and in an ongoing sexual relationship with an HIV-positive partner. PrEP also should be considered if you aren't in a mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who recently tested HIV-negative, and you are a: gay or bisexual man who has had anal sex without a condom or been diagnosed with an STD in the past 6 months;.
Man who has sex with both men and women;.
Or.
Heterosexual man or woman who does not regularly use condoms during sex with partners of unknown HIV status who are at very high risk of HIV infection (for example, people who inject drugs or women who have bisexual male partners).
Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) means taking HIV medicines after being potentially exposed to HIV to prevent becoming infected. If you're HIV-negative or don't know your HIV status and think you have recently been exposed to HIV during sex (for example, if the condom breaks), talk to your health care provider or an emergency room doctor about PEP right away (within 3 days). The sooner you start PEP, the better; every hour counts. If you're prescribed PEP, you'll need to take it once or twice daily for 28 days. Keep in mind that your chance of getting HIV is lower if your HIV-positive partner is taking medicine to treat HIV infection (called antiretroviral therapy, or ART) as prescribed and his or her viral load stays undetectable (see Does my HIV-positive partner's viral load affect my risk of getting HIV?
If you're HIV-negative and your partner is HIV-positive, encourage your partner to get and stay on treatment. If taken as prescribed, HIV medicine (ART) can make the amount of HIV in the blood (viral load) very low—so low that a test can't detect it (called an undetectable viral load). People with HIV who get and keep an undetectable viral load can stay healthy for many years and have effectively no risk of transmitting HIV to an HIV-negative partner through sex.
Choose less risky sexual behaviors. HIV is mainly spread by having anal or vaginal sex without a condom or without taking medicines to prevent or treat HIV. Receptive anal sex is the riskiest type of sex for getting HIV. It's possible for either partner—the partner inserting the penis in the anus (the top) or the partner receiving the penis (the bottom)—to get HIV, but it is much riskier for an.
HIV-negative partner to be the receptive partner. That's because the lining of the rectum is thin and may allow HIV to enter the body during anal sex.
Vaginal sex also carries a risk for getting HIV, though it is less risky than receptive anal sex. Most women who get HIV get it from vaginal sex, but men can also get HIV from vaginal sex.
In general, there is little to no risk of getting or transmitting HIV from oral sex. Theoretically, transmission of HIV is possible if an HIV-positive man ejaculates in his partner's mouth during oral sex. However, the risk is still very low, and much lower than with anal or vaginal sex. Factors that may increase the risk of transmitting HIV through oral sex are oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs, which may or may not be visible. See How can I prevent getting HIV from oral sex?
Sexual activities that don't involve contact with body fluids (semen, vaginal fluid, or blood) carry no risk of HIV transmission but may pose a risk for other STDs.
Learn more about how to protect yourself, and get information tailored to meet your needs from CDC's HIV Risk Reduction Tool (BETA).
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pdf/library/factsheets/cdc-hiv-safer-sex-101.pdf
Conclusion: NEVER EVER have BARE BACK ANAL-I NEVER DO. Both vaginal BB and Anal BB carry some level of risk but there is more risk in contracting HIV through anal sex. It is a fact and article above is from CDC.
How can I prevent getting HIV from anal or vaginal sex?
Use condoms the right way every time you have sex, take medicines to prevent or treat HIV if appropriate, choose less risky sexual behaviors, get tested for other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and limit your number of sex partners. The more of these actions you take, the safer you can be.
Specifically, you can:
Use condoms the right way every time you have sex (see How well do condoms prevent HIV? Learn the right way to use a male condom. Reduce your number of sexual partners. This can lower your chances of having a sex partner who will transmit HIV to you. The more partners you have, the more likely you are to have a partner with HIV whose viral load is not suppressed or to have a sex partner with a sexually transmitted disease. Both of these factors can increase the risk of HIV transmission..As I said the high risk for those who don't use condoms is with needle sharing partners or partners who have had sex with gay or bisexual men. The probability there is quite low. What is the probability of any of.
These Korean girls having sex with gay men. How many hobbyists who spend thousands of dollars are sharing needles in a back alley. Yes, the probability is a lot lower than a fatal accident on the freeway. The CDC will always err on the side of caution. The reality is that no one here has ever heard of a hobbyist contracting HIV from a KG. If it concerns you then wear a condom but that would put you in a different discussion group.
Smokey1981
12-05-19, 03:49
"The global condom market was valued at 6. 76 billion USA Dollars in 2017, and was projected to increase in value rapidly over the next several years as well. The global condom market was expected to be valued at 11.1 billion USA Dollars by 2023.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/739346/condom-market-value-worldwide/
The condom companies are the ones scaring the people to the point that back in the 90's people "punters" were getting hand jobs with a condom on. There was some studies that I can't find the source that Doctors in Europe were saying that HIV was not a Sexual transmitted disease! Of course the condom companies when crazy and shut down those claims.
Maggot Brain
12-05-19, 05:53
Newsflash: fucking a prostitute bare, regardless of her ethnic or social background, includes a certain amount of health risk. If you're on this forum, there's a good chance you partake in this risky endeavor, or are contemplating it (if not, why are you here? Specifically, having unprotected sex with women from Korea (or Asia). These aren't skanky street walkers possibly shooting up or servicing men sans prophylactic who do, so I'd reckon the risk those here take is even lower to become infected with the HIV virus. If you don't want to take that risk: DON'T, and go discuss why or the statistics about it etc somewhere else. For those who do: let's get back to the sharing of intel about hot Asian women. Enough of all this shit guys. Hopefully, if you're partaking in BBFS with providers, you've done your own research on possible preventive measures to take or other pertinent things of that nature and aren't using this forum as your source for AIDS info. Thank you.
I'm still waiting on my results (chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis minus HSV test). HIV was negative but last girl I saw was 2 days before so I'll get it done again in a couple of weeks. I'll get full blood work done after the holidays. For incubation window purposes. If you want to know who I saw, PM me.My results finally came in and it's negative. My signs and symptoms disappeared; barely lasting a week.A bit of relief but again, I'll get tested again after the holidays to make sure.
I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?
KingSlayer22
12-12-19, 13:54
I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?The girls first off are tested frequently, most of the group is the same way at least the regular ones. Not a perfect system but we haven't had a group incident or you would have heard about it. Not everyone including the girls do bfs at these either. To each their own as about a quarter of the guys do not do bfs at these and some of the girls do not do bfs. Everyone has their line in the sand and we all respect that. There has been accusations about girls before and they got tested with twenty four hours, none has come back where we had to set them out. Its taken very seriously being it can be the kiss of death to these types of events. Hope that answered your question.
SavannaAtl
12-12-19, 14:46
I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?100% straight gamble. As a multi-year lurker and one party attendee, I personally think you guys are crazy going BB while in the next breath complaining about pros and drug addicts. Esp going home to a wife. My party was covered and I still rushed to my OBGYN for a full panel. This is why uncovered with me will always be a no no. Good luck gentlemen!
PeteAppleSeed
12-12-19, 16:48
I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?Get ready for crickets.
I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.
PhilMe 143
12-13-19, 03:53
Get ready for crickets.
I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.What is Truvada?
What is Truvada?Truvada is a brand-name prescription medication that's used for treating HIV infection. It's also used for preventing HIV infection in people who have a high risk of getting HIV. This use, in which the treatment is given before the person may be exposed to HIV, is called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
More common side effects.
The more common side effects of Truvada include:
* fatigue.
* depression.
* nausea.
* vomiting.
* diarrhea.
* dizziness.
* respiratory infections.
* sinus infection.
* rash.
* headache.
* trouble sleeping.
* sore throat.
* high cholesterol.
Serious side effects can include:
* bone loss.
* immune reconstitution syndrome.
* kidney problems.
* lactic acidosis.
* liver problems.
Get ready for crickets.
I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.Super good advice. Basically in plain English the drug. If you have HIV can prevent it's spread. If you DO NOT have HIV it will block you from getting it! The patent for the drug is expiring a year early and in Sept 2020 1 company will sell generic version of it in the US. Then later more companies will follow.
It is my opinion that when the drug becomes super cheap ala a few dollars daily that this could wipe off HIV if we can get everyone on board then no one could transmit it or receive it!
I'm not currently taking it when the generic is available I'm looking into it!
Kudos for bringing this up super good shit!
SavannaAtl
12-14-19, 15:06
Super good advice. Basically in plain English the drug. If you have HIV can prevent it's spread. If you DO NOT have HIV it will block you from getting it! The patent for the drug is expiring a year early and in Sept 2020 1 company will sell generic version of it in the US. Then later more companies will follow.
It is my opinion that when the drug becomes super cheap ala a few dollars daily that this could wipe off HIV if we can get everyone on board then no one could transmit it or receive it!
I'm not currently taking it when the generic is available I'm looking into it!
Kudos for bringing this up super good shit!Well, the effectiveness to prevent HIV infection for men is around 90%. A study for women showed a much less success rate. I also read one medical study that found if you acquired HIV while using Truvada, a different cocktails of meds would treat more effectively, something about viral tolerance.
VirgilToole
12-14-19, 18:32
Truvada is a brand-name prescription medication that's used for treating HIV infection. It's also used for preventing HIV infection in people who have a high risk of getting HIV. This use, in which the treatment is given before the person may be exposed to HIV, is called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
Caveat: If you are very paranoid about catching HIV, then get on PrEP.
But for straight, non-intravenous drug using males, the risk of contracting HIV is very low. The risk of getting HIV from barebacking an HIV positive woman through PIV (penis in vagina) sex is 1 in 10,000 according to the CDC. Meaning that if you go bare with a woman who is confirmed to have HIV, you still only have a 1/10,000 chance of contracting it from her. Despite all the ads for Truvada trying to get people to take it (funded by the drug companies to make a profit), it's still very much a disease that almost exclusively affects gay men and needle users. And even with gay sex, it's much more likely for the receptive partner to contract it.
Even though having sex with prostitutes puts us in the "high risk category" according to doctors, I personally wouldn't get on PrEP. It's not worth the cost or side effects to me. But then again, I never go bare with any of these girls.
You're much more likely to contract herpes, gonorrhea, or chlamydia from these women. Fortunately, two of those can be cured by a single pill. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine for herpes yet.
Yes, I texted with Cas a while ago when I was bored and asked if she would do BB with me. She replied "no" and told me it's because she has herpes. I'm glad she was honest with me through texts, but once she told me that there was no way I was going to see her. A guy who used to post on this board a lot posted pics of doing her bareback a couple of years ago.According to any health agency about 1/2 of all adults have Herpes.
http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/herpes/fast-facts-and-faqs/
Which pretty much means %100 of providers have it. If the gal says she's having an outbreak, then stay away. Otherwise it's a given that all providers and mongers have it. ESPECIALLY the BBFS mongers.
The only danger really is the significant other dropping an anvil on your head when you fail to explain how she got HSP from you AFTER you were married.
John Dough
12-16-19, 21:27
You're much more likely to contract herpes, gonorrhea, or chlamydia from these women. Fortunately, two of those can be cured by a single pill. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine for herpes yet.There are unproven approaches to preventing and treating herpes. Since herpes is transmitted by skin to skin contact, skin barrier creams like Gloves in a Bottle might help. Washing immediately afterward might help, especially if using an antimicrobial soap like Defense Soap. There are a few anti-viral chemicals on the over-the-counter market for oral consumption. Monolaurin and BHT supposedly remove the outer coating of lipid coated viruses like herpes, exposing them to the body's immune system.
A study by Dr. Billigmann in 1995 concluded that protease enzymes showed identical efficacy with the drug acyclovir in treating Herpes zoster. Clinical trials of AHCC showed a 60% success rate in treating Human Papilloma Virus in women. A Japanese study found that vitamin D was more effective than a vaccine in preventing flu virus. Another study showed that "selenium inhibits the ability of all "herpes-family" viruses to reproduce". According to Dr. Weil, "Laboratory studies show that olive leaf extract has been reported to increase natural killer cell function against viruses like HIV, hepatitis B and C, and herpes".
For more info see the STD Prevention With Natural Antibiotics user blog.
SaltWaterLbc
12-18-19, 13:51
So I was nervous when some other mongers said they tested positive for chlamydia. The common thread was One provider we all saw but, I got tested and it came back negative. This is after a 4 week wait period and blood with urine sample.
New girl I don't offer BBFS.
Listen, coming from someone that "dreams" that works for a health department, just ease your mind and google "STI infection rates and means of transmission; CDC". I've done this for 7 years now, with some gaps in time of where my mongering cap was in temporary storage. With at least 7 BBCIP ladies and the rest covered FS. All BBBJ except a few when I first started, to where I have only caught something once and still unsure of whether it was a lady of the night or a random hook up while at college.
The CDC is solid with data as health department gets all reports ultimately sent to them for funding, research, and general data collection. I know I'm spewing a lot, but it's worth it for those who take the time to look into it themselves and see much of what you hear is extremely exaggerated. First off, remember that we are much more likely to infect them as we are transmitting semen and blood to an extent that they are truly an open tunnel of "take whatever the hell it is".
Like with HIV, the virus itself is low with heterosexual unprotected vaginal sex, but rates are crazy high with anything anal due to the easy tearing of the rectum, with the "receiver" having 3-4 x likelihood of becoming infected with an STI. The bottom line is that as long as long you're dwelling in heterosexual activity and staying clear from anything where you are the one being penetrated by someone else (no judgement cards being played; to each their own and I'm simply stating what anyone can search and verify), then you will likely contract a few STIs that are treatable, but anything to the extent of severe damage (I. E. HIV, genital warts) will take you just drawing the bad hand for that deal.
Here are some things to steer clear of as they are MUCH HIGHER odds of having something:
-any type of IV drug use is high risk. Be aware that you'll see higher rates with those who have the fewest track marks, as they are the ones who are still finding a veins, to where those with tons of marks are having issues to where a lot of them just start.
Snorting the drug.
-another risk factor is those who have BBFS, where all it takes is the one gentleman to have time with her to start that vicious cycle up.
-Those who appear in good health and put together are of course likely to be in better good health (appearance does go a long way with judgement) than those who look sickly, tired, beaten down, stressed, etc. Good health at least means an immune system that is holding things down, so I'd say take that into consideration as someone infected is much more likely to fall into those who let that same infection beat the shit out of their health until they get it addressed (by choice or forcefully I. E. Jail).So I consider myself to be the King of BB. It is my M. O. When I visit with these ladies of the night. I have doing this for almost 4 years now with NO STD's and I dumped loads into 29 ladies, and some I have been a regular with the entire time. Here is my personal plan (works for me, may not for others).
I get tested every 3 months, period. I use STDcheck.com.
I never do anything with a girl with trackmarks. I stop and leave. I also never give donations until its over.
I never do anything with a girl smelling like Starkiss Tuna! Same as above. She isn't clean.
I never negotiate BB until I meet her, then I drop it that I only do BB. Never had one say no as they want the money.
Best experience ever: I did get to do a MFM with one 2 years back and we took turns dropping our loads in her. I did 2, my buddy did 3. It was awesome. I wish she was still around.
RegAkronGuy
12-31-19, 09:31
She is very nice and I have done BBBJ, BBCIP, BBCIA ...all BB.Just a general caution against BB with anyone. I've gone BB with 2 girls and after one well-reviewed girl had bloody urine and a burning cock a week later, indicative of chlamydia or gonorrhea. Girls may legitimately think they're clean but some STDs are often asymptomatic.
This is absolutely nothing against that girl and am suggesting nothing about her in any way. I've never seen her but would like to. Just a caution to be careful in general based on personal experience.
BBNovice2018
12-31-19, 12:54
From the BBFS providers' test results that I have seen, it's not 100%. I would guess 70% for hsv1 and 50% for hsv2. I think it's only porn stars % may approach 100%. They don't bother testing for that.
I have done BBFS from time to time and I am completely clean.
According to any health agency about 1/2 of all adults have Herpes.
http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/herpes/fast-facts-and-faqs/
Which pretty much means %100 of providers have it. If the gal says she's having an outbreak, then stay away. Otherwise it's a given that all providers and mongers have it. ESPECIALLY the BBFS mongers.
The only danger really is the significant other dropping an anvil on your head when you fail to explain how she got HSP from you AFTER you were married.
Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.
But.
With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.
But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.
I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.
I am told that:
- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).
- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.
- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.
WTF?
Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?
I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.
Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.
Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.
But.
With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.
But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.
I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.
I am told that:
- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).
- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.
- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.
WTF?
Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?
I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.
Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.There will always be some element of risk from seeing pros in general and especially if you don't wrap it up. You just have to take a chance if you want to go with this route and there is a chance to catch something despite these girls get tested (I hope) and you yourself get tested regularly. If you feel this hobby is a bit much for you, you're going to have to either abstain or find a steady GF to BB with to eliminate any risk. Some of us are okay with these odds, some of us are not. This is up to you.
BlaneJames
01-02-20, 21:40
Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.
But.
With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.
But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.
I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.
I am told that:
- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).
- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.
- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.
WTF?
Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?
I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.
Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.I heard a doctor talking about how something less than 25% of people will ever show symptoms of hsv-2 and most likely most of the population who is sexually active have it.
BBNovice2018
01-05-20, 12:53
Statistic may seem scary but you may be one of the lucky one. I don't know how but I am free of both after I got tested. I thought for sure I would have Herpes 1 as over 70% of people have it but I was pleasantly surprised that I don't have it.
Hope I'm not pissing on anybody's parade by bringing this up.
But.
With most stds (gono, chlamydia, syphillis) we take a pill and voila, they're gone. Most likely we know something's up soon after infection.
But how do you guys manage herpes 2? The genital one.
I am trying to figure out what the "responsible" way to go about this is- and I don't mean with k-girls or sex workers. I am talking just in general, with "normal" girls.
I am told that:
- HSV2 transmission can occur even if there's no visible sores (which frankly was my go-to method for figuring out if I was at risk).
- You can't test for it so even if you did the right thing with a serious GF and got a full board of STD tests, you'd still be shit-out-of-luck with HSV2.
- Condoms only partially protect you since it's skin-to-skin.
WTF?
Are we supposed to fuck and cry at the same time, while we pound a seemingly clean, pristine pussy, wondering if we are basically one thrust away from getting it?
I haven't had a single out break and have fucked a lot of chicks bare (mostly non-pros) but now I am wondering if I am one of those silent carriers and just don't know it.
Anyone willing to jump in and be the voice of reason? Prob not the sexiest topic thread but hey, I know it's on a lot of people's minds so let's clear the air.
100% straight gamble. As a multi-year lurker and one party attendee, I personally think you guys are crazy going BB while in the next breath complaining about pros and drug addicts. Esp going home to a wife. My party was covered and I still rushed to my OBGYN for a full panel. This is why uncovered with me will always be a no no. Good luck gentlemen!Sorry I saw this post from last month and had to weigh in. A 100% straight gamble would be a coin flip where your odds are 50% either way. A trip to Vegas where the house has an edge puts you at a 55% chance of losing depending on how many sucker bets you place. I do bb at parties and with regulars but often switch it up and use a cover. There is always some risk but it's not as dire as a coin toss. See pic for odds.
Sorry I saw this post from last month and had to weigh in. A 100% straight gamble would be a coin flip where your odds are 50% either way. A trip to Vegas where the house has an edge puts you at a 55% chance of losing depending on how many sucker bets you place. I do bb at parties and with regulars but often switch it up and use a cover. There is always some risk but it's not as dire as a coin toss. See pic for odds.The only odds I have a problem believing is if a HIV positive ejaculated in a negative bottom, I would think it would be an automatic positive. I am sure it is correct, but it shocks me.
I heard a doctor talking about how something less than 25% of people will ever show symptoms of hsv-2 and most likely most of the population who is sexually active have it.I heard many people who get it fight it off naturally. Sometimes it can even become immune in most. Its the odds like all the others. I also heard condoms do nothing for catching that, just your sac touching her vagina while wearing a hat still will transmit that way.
Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?
I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.
(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).
Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?
I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.
(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).I've been getting BBBJs from SWs for 25+ years and don't have herpes.
However, it's absolutely possible you get it first time out. It's luck of the draw, and a little common sense. Don't let a girl with obvious mouth sores go down on you. But you usually won't see it coming.
I've been getting BBBJs from SWs for 25+ years and don't have herpes.
However, it's absolutely possible you get it first time out. It's luck of the draw, and a little common sense. Don't let a girl with obvious mouth sores go down on you. But you usually won't see it coming.Actually, herpes is most contagious just before the sores appear.
BobSacamano
01-27-20, 22:17
Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?
I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.
(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).I've been in the game for a long time and I'm clean. I get checked out regularly at an anonymous clinic and never had an issue.
WizardOfAahs
01-27-20, 22:50
Actually, herpes is most contagious just before the sores appear.I do not know of any source that can confirm then, much less a credible one.
In regards to Oral Herpes: "HSV-1 is most contagious during an outbreak of symptomatic oral herpes, but can also be transmitted when no symptoms are felt or visible. ".
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/herpes-simplex-virus
Do all mongers who get BBBJ eventually get herpes?
I am interested because I have the hardest time getting off via handjobs or covered BJs but fear herpes.
(I have to believe that 100 percent of SWs have oral herpes (cold sores) after working the streets for a few months).Once interacting with someone at risk the odds shoot up radically. What I'm pointing out isn't necessarily herpes but rather other things. If you play especially in the the SW side expect scabies, ring worm, or just about any communicable disease. Remember 3 quarters of the girls are out there to feed a habit. Even for those that claim hygiene you're still by meeting as many people that handle a shopping cart. Unfortunately the cart you touched is a living petri dish with the flu or worse. So wrap, wash, protect, but eventually something can still happen it's just odds.
SugarDaddio
02-04-20, 14:24
So you see where providers will do BBBJ and CFS. Is sucking bare cock that much safer than actual bareback sex? Or is it mostly a pregnancy thing? I was with a woman last week and she sucked and let me play without protection but when it came time for my cock to get near her pussy is was cover time. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who will know all kind of statistics and stuff. Just wondering.
SD.
Ozymandias
02-04-20, 15:09
So you see where providers will do BBBJ and CFS. Is sucking bare cock that much safer than actual bareback sex? Or is it mostly a pregnancy thing? I was with a woman last week and she sucked and let me play without protection but when it came time for my cock to get near her pussy is was cover time. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who will know all kind of statistics and stuff. Just wondering.
SD.Yes, BBBJ carries a much, much smaller likelihood of STD transmission than actual bare fucking. The concerns are independent of pregnancy risk.
If you want statistics, the CDC has all you need, but a BBBJ provider is pretty common (I have strippers sucking my dick bare all the time), while a BBFS provider is more in the realm of "a specialist".
(I actually prefer my BBFS with CFS providers (I can usually get them to agree to it); I'm wary of the actual, committed BBFS providers!
O.
ZeppDawg33
02-04-20, 15:42
So you see where providers will do BBBJ and CFS. Is sucking bare cock that much safer than actual bareback sex? Or is it mostly a pregnancy thing? I was with a woman last week and she sucked and let me play without protection but when it came time for my cock to get near her pussy is was cover time. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who will know all kind of statistics and stuff. Just wondering.
SD.For the male the risk for HIV goes up very little. It goes goes up a significant amount for the female. It anal is involved it goes up for both but a lot for the female. Of course uncovered vaginal sex increases the risk of a lot of other STDs, most thought are curable except herpes.
Cephlapod Love
02-06-20, 18:43
OK, gents, normally this would be posted in the titled thread, but per forum rules, I am posting here where this discussion is allowed
Two emails came my way of recent that have me scratching my head. I have been on a 'risk management" kick of recent and this falls right in line with that.
First, I received an email from a monger reporting that HE had contracted an STD. OK, no biggie as that is the risk everyone in this hobby takes! I guess if you hobby enough and are loose in your safety practices then one should not be surprised to get an STD. The details of who, what, where, when & how are not particularly relevant or of interest to me.
What did catch my eye was what he reported as the reaction he got when 'being a good Joe" and warning others. Apparently the Monger, let's call him Z, contacted providers AND hobbyists as a warning and public service. (He sent me some of the texts) What shocked me was the reactions. Several of the dudes challenged him wanting to know if he was "sure" he got the STD from girl A. Others said, I have no symptoms so I couldn't have any STDs, as if that was conclusive or protective. The girls for the most part apparently thanked Z for telling them and wandered over to the Clinics and got tested right away. The dudes apparently shunned testing- and one wonders how STDs spread? One girl however, refused to get tested, but weeks later was in the local hospital getting a shot in her azz.
My horror is the apparent ignorance surrounding STDs and denial when faced with the possibility of infection. Maybe I'm too altruistic? But if some dude told me they dated girl B and now had an STD and I had dated Girl B too, I'd be grateful for the info and rush off to get tested (provided the incubation period had expired).
Can the dude be 100% sure where he got the STD? Not if he dated several girls! But is the fact that Z wasn't sure where he got the STD, is that protective of any one monger or a reason for any monger to 'blow off' the possibility of exposure? Look STDs in our culture are ubiquitous and unfortunately a "dirty thing. " Apparently the "common knowledge" is that only bad people or certain people get STDs. Unfortunately, talk with counselors in the clinics and they will tell you STDs know no "boundaries!" So I get it! Having an STD is embarrassing AND if one allows their mind to go there, then one is dirty, disgusting or a bad person for having one. So no doubt one's motivation behind denial has something to do with: who wants to feel they are a bad person, dirty or disgusting? But that thinking is in your head, your socialization. If you allow that to dictate your actions and thus avoid taking appropriate steps, then sad for you!
Then there is the IGNORANCE of "I don't have any symptoms" so I must not have an STD! FALSE! Do some homework and one will see that there is a significant percentage of people who contract an STD that have no symptoms! Some STDS (Chlamydia & HPV) are often a-symptomatic. Not having symptoms is not protective, nor is it an indication one is not infected! On top of this, the incubation period for many STDs vary widely. So perhaps the bug hasn't had enough time to elicit symptoms? I dunno. My point is that it appears as though many are unaware of how STDs work and thus take comfort in the wrong things and stick their head in the sand on others!
The second part of the rant surrounds these boards and the fact that one is not allowed to make STD accusations about girls. (that is the policy we have to live with) So the fact that no one "sees" a discussion about anyone having an STD, appears as though it lulls many into NOT considering the possibility or presence of STDs out there! This is plain silly! As the Z example above points out STDs are around the Delaware community. So if you think that not seeing any cautions or reports that a girl has HIV, the clap, etc means you don't have to worry about it. THINK AGAIN! So while Z would have liked to report the girls he dated that likely gave him the bug, he was prohibited from doing so. But NOT posting who were the potential "givers" didn't make his STD disappear or go away. It also didn't reduce the risk of expose to other dudes who dated the same girl (s)! So many mongers trundled on seeing these girls all happily ignorant of the risk they potentially posed.
So some dudes have taken to private mail to report potential problems with girls. One can be grateful for that information or one can stick their head in the sand over it. If you need to "get your head around the fact that Girl C might have an STD" then you are taking HUGE risks and acting in denial! Again, this is risk management. You get to decide how serious you want to take things.
Me? Over the years I have had many a girl tell me that, "that girl over there, she has STD XYZ. " Most of the time, my experience suggests that this could be nothing more that 'eliminating the competition. ' But it does leave me with a level of pause. However, when I get the same report from THREE independent sources, then for me this "information" becomes a fact and the girl is eliminated from any potential rotation or future dates. I might also warn others as allowed, but from what I see reported by Z and the PMs I have received, I think I will just stop bothering. Clearly you guys don't give a Sh*T if Girl D has HIV or Girl E has Syphilis. Apparently such reports will be met but challenges and distrust all while trying when trying to help out? Why bother?
So take my warning for what it is worth. Ignore it if you wish. Risk Management is your choice.
So if you dudes want to stay safe find one girl and be monogamous with her! If not ALWAYS, ALWAYS use protection to reduce, not eliminate, one's risk.
Stay Safe!
Baltimore is the City with the Highest STD Rate in the US. Here's a link to the article.
https://dc101.iheart.com/content/2020-01-15-congrats-baltimore-you-are-the-city-with-the-highest-std-rate-in-the-us/?Keyid=socialflow&Pname=local_social&Sc=editorial&fbclid=IwAR21mptuPa8tzJ2ucqtoBsW08EH5tSVAJxv3FW9pwVB6OzUeGriAun9fBZo
I stopped going bareback years ago when I got sequential STD's from FOUR dates over as many months. Yup, 4 in a row. Three were BBBJ, and on was FS. Hey, what's a drip among friends? Can I get a little clap from someone for posting this news? LOL!!
Met Jen on Conkling about a month ago. Blonde with a cute face. Great attitude. Enthusiastic action. Picks though. That was unsightly.
Met Casey near Wilkens last week. Strawberry blonde with a very pretty face. She gets into it and had an "O" 3-4 times. Also a sweetheart.
Baltoman.
I'm just going to chime with a thought on this one real quick.
I went for a routine physical a couple weeks ago and my urine showed up positive for an STD. Chlamydia.
That was a bit embarrassing at my family doctors office.
I didn't show any symptoms. No discharge or pain. I have been with only one girl for many months.
Logically, I would think that a very high percentage of these girls are carrying something.
Time to re-evaluate.
Anyhow, if you have the option to get discretely tested, it might be a good idea.
Baltimore is the City with the Highest STD Rate in the US. Here's a link to the article.
https://dc101.iheart.com/content/2020-01-15-congrats-baltimore-you-are-the-city-with-the-highest-std-rate-in-the-us/?Keyid=socialflow&Pname=local_social&Sc=editorial&fbclid=IwAR21mptuPa8tzJ2ucqtoBsW08EH5tSVAJxv3FW9pwVB6OzUeGriAun9fBZo
I stopped going bareback years ago when I got sequential STD's from FOUR dates over as many months. Yup, 4 in a row. Three were BBBJ, and on was FS. Hey, what's a drip among friends? Can I get a little clap from someone for posting this news? LOL!!.
I'm just going to chime with a thought on this one real quick.
I went for a routine physical a couple weeks ago and my urine showed up positive for an STD. Chlamydia.
That was a bit embarrassing at my family doctors office.
I didn't show any symptoms. No discharge or pain. I have been with only one girl for many months.
Logically, I would think that a very high percentage of these girls are carrying something.
Time to re-evaluate.
Anyhow, if you have the option to get discretely tested, it might be a good idea.Noticed my urine a bit cloudy since my last visit w / Special K. I pulled out and cum washed her tits for her, but might of caught a bit of residual mouth spray. Anyone else having ill effects following a visit to the great head doctor?
AlwaysLookng
02-07-20, 18:47
Noticed my urine a bit cloudy since my last visit w / Special K. I pulled out and cum washed her tits for her, but might of caught a bit of residual mouth spray. Anyone else having ill effects following a visit to the great head doctor?Interesting, I wonder what the odds are of catching something from BBBJ. I always considered it to be pretty safe.
I wanted to drop in and give a reminder that BBFS is extremely risky and HIV in this industry is not uncommon, especially for those women that are willing to perform BBFS. I don't think we should lose sight of that. HIV is not worth a blown load. Don't be an idiot. Cover up.
PellyMason
02-07-20, 19:29
Interesting, I wonder what the odds are of catching something from BBBJ. I always considered it to be pretty safe.The odds of clap and G-bug I'm afraid are good. A few years ago it was thought that HIV transmission could not occur via BJ, but evidently even that can be transmitted by BJ. Be careful out there. Taking a pee after getting off does not reduce the chances of infection of any STD as many believe.
I wanted to drop in and give a reminder that BBFS is extremely risky and HIV in this industry is not uncommon, especially for those women that are willing to perform BBFS. I don't think we should lose sight of that. HIV is not worth a blown load. Don't be an idiot. Cover up.But those who take truvada everyday who aren't infected have a high resistance rate of 98%.
Not going against you, but it's proven science out there. That's how Carmen lovely and her crew move around so safe with risky behavoir.
There are other things to worry about but this ain't one.
I'm just going to chime with a thought on this one real quick.
I went for a routine physical a couple weeks ago and my urine showed up positive for an STD. Chlamydia.
That was a bit embarrassing at my family doctors office.
I didn't show any symptoms. No discharge or pain. I have been with only one girl for many months.
Logically, I would think that a very high percentage of these girls are carrying something.
Time to re-evaluate.
Anyhow, if you have the option to get discretely tested, it might be a good idea.Yup keep it covered. I always thought BBBJ was safe until it wasn't. Pissed needles a week and I considered that lucky since most of the time there aren't any symptoms. Had that been my case I would have had some explaining to do.
SeekingHead
02-08-20, 16:05
So you see where providers will do BBBJ and CFS. Is sucking bare cock that much safer than actual bareback sex? Or is it mostly a pregnancy thing? I was with a woman last week and she sucked and let me play without protection but when it came time for my cock to get near her pussy is was cover time. I'm sure there are plenty of you out there who will know all kind of statistics and stuff. Just wondering.
SD.BBBJ is almost without risk for the male, there is like a 1 in a million chance of catching a STD & the women has to have open sores in her mouth. There has never been a recorded case of HIV via oral sex.
BBFS, there is risk for the male mainly STD syphilis & gonorrhea, plus Herpes. Very very low chance of catching HIV, especially if you are circumsized then it drops to almost 0.
Anal, risk is high for HIV due to the possibility of open sores, I wouldn't do anal unless we are in committed relationship or where both partners are clean.
Always after any type of sexual session, take a washrag run hot water over it, soap it up really good, and clean your junk thoroughly. I always shower after any type of sexual activity if possible.
BBBJ is almost without risk for the male, there is like a 1 in a million chance of catching a STD & the women has to have open sores in her mouth. There has never been a recorded case of HIV via oral sex.
BBFS, there is risk for the male mainly STD syphilis & gonorrhea, plus Herpes. Very very low chance of catching HIV, especially if you are circumsized then it drops to almost 0.
Anal, risk is high for HIV due to the possibility of open sores, I wouldn't do anal unless we are in committed relationship or where both partners are clean.
Always after any type of sexual session, take a washrag run hot water over it, soap it up really good, and clean your junk thoroughly. I always shower after any type of sexual activity if possible.Chlymidia lives in the back of the throat so it is possible with fluid exchange not often as vaginal but can happen.
BMoreDog69
02-09-20, 11:21
You forgot to mention HPV, which is pretty commonly undiagnosed.
BBBJ is almost without risk for the male, there is like a 1 in a million chance of catching a STD & the women has to have open sores in her mouth. There has never been a recorded case of HIV via oral sex.
BBFS, there is risk for the male mainly STD syphilis & gonorrhea, plus Herpes. Very very low chance of catching HIV, especially if you are circumsized then it drops to almost 0.
Anal, risk is high for HIV due to the possibility of open sores, I wouldn't do anal unless we are in committed relationship or where both partners are clean.
Always after any type of sexual session, take a washrag run hot water over it, soap it up really good, and clean your junk thoroughly. I always shower after any type of sexual activity if possible.
RamboRaiden
02-18-20, 21:37
This weekend I met one SW in Phoenix and during the act condom broke in her pussy. I immediately removed it. But from Monday I'm having stomach upset and fever now. I'm totally worried now. Would I have contracted hiv. I'm depressed.
Copied.
*BBBJ is almost without risk for the male, there is like a 1 in a million chance of catching a STD & the women has to have open sores in her mouth. There has never been a recorded case of HIV via oral sex.
——You're referring to HIV here, correct? I'm pretty sure that the rate of catching an STD, such as chlamydia, infection is much greater. Please confirm.
BBBJ is almost without risk for the male, there is like a 1 in a million chance of catching a STD & the women has to have open sores in her mouth. There has never been a recorded case of HIV via oral sex.
BBFS, there is risk for the male mainly STD syphilis & gonorrhea, plus Herpes. Very very low chance of catching HIV, especially if you are circumsized then it drops to almost 0.
Anal, risk is high for HIV due to the possibility of open sores, I wouldn't do anal unless we are in committed relationship or where both partners are clean.
Always after any type of sexual session, take a washrag run hot water over it, soap it up really good, and clean your junk thoroughly. I always shower after any type of sexual activity if possible.
GuyInTheCorner
02-21-20, 09:48
This weekend I met one SW in Phoenix and during the act condom broke in her pussy. I immediately removed it. But from Monday I'm having stomach upset and fever now. I'm totally worried now. Would I have contracted hiv. I'm depressed.Don't be depressed and don't be stupid. Go get tested.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.
MongerSeeker
03-01-20, 04:57
I agree BBFS is extremely foolish. If you have genital herpes then the risk of contracting HIV is much greater. The risk of hiv from intercourse is slim. But still happens occasionally. You can also take PREP to protect yourself from HIV. The downside is that costs $2000 a month and is not covered by many insurance companies.
I wanted to drop in and give a reminder that BBFS is extremely risky and HIV in this industry is not uncommon, especially for those women that are willing to perform BBFS. I don't think we should lose sight of that. HIV is not worth a blown load. Don't be an idiot. Cover up.
MongerSeeker
03-01-20, 05:00
The main risk is open sores or bleeding gums.
BBBJ is almost without risk for the male, there is like a 1 in a million chance of catching a STD & the women has to have open sores in her mouth. There has never been a recorded case of HIV via oral sex.
BBFS, there is risk for the male mainly STD syphilis & gonorrhea, plus Herpes. Very very low chance of catching HIV, especially if you are circumsized then it drops to almost 0.
Anal, risk is high for HIV due to the possibility of open sores, I wouldn't do anal unless we are in committed relationship or where both partners are clean.
Always after any type of sexual session, take a washrag run hot water over it, soap it up really good, and clean your junk thoroughly. I always shower after any type of sexual activity if possible.
Benjamin99
03-01-20, 10:09
If you don't want your doctor to know, just go to Urgent Care, they can treat you and send a test to the lab. Don't delay as it can get worse and harder to treat later. I'm not a doctor and I'm not sure if anyone can diagnose without at least setting a picture. Often is just a yeast infection, you could use Monistat, Vagisil or any other over the counter cream that threats vaginal yeast from a farmacy.
If you are using insurance, be careful that they send home the explanation of benefits and SO can see it. You can hold your mail and pick it up from the post office.
I feel we should be discussing this in the General Reports section, I just replied here so you can see my reply.
I don't ever do BBFS with a provider. BBBJ can also transmit deseases.
Good luck.
Ben.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.
UnzipMyGenes
03-01-20, 11:54
Nice knowing you: l.
Wait a few months (3-6) then get some tests done and then get some tests done again in a year.
For all kinds of STD and HIV.
Good luck.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.
Joe Hobbyist
03-01-20, 12:15
You need to go to a doc ASAP. If it is herpes it is best tested for during outbreak. Also, the sooner you start on meds the better. I think you know this, so just go. Waiting and wondering is going to be worse. STD Check dot com is a place you can make appt online to go to one of many labs around town or you can go to county health dept as noted here many times before. Just go. Nobody on here can help you medically.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.1. Google Oakland county free std testing or see your doctor (unless you're concerned of a wife seeing the bill).
3. Stop BB.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.Google STD check. You can purchase through there. They will have you go to a lab.
Also, if anyone catches anything it would be highly recommended to post on here who gave it to you. I don't care how loyal anyone is to any of these girls it is in everyone's best interest to avoid any woman passing around diseases.
RoddyJohnson
03-01-20, 14:15
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.I'm a nurse, can you attach a picture?
I'm a nurse, can you attach a picture?Confidential testing, doctor consulting by phone.
Stdcheck.com $200.
I'm a nurse, can you attach a picture?Don't attach a pic but go get check out and if you do have something then you should let us know the provider. But you are to blame also.
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.Never go raw with any of them.
RoddyJohnson
03-01-20, 16:02
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.It sounds like an initial outbreak of herpes. I'd get it checked put but not much you can do about herpes except ride it out. The first outbreak is the worst with subsequent outbreaks being much milder. If you have a spouse you can always tell her that at least 1 in 5 Carrie's herpes. The truth is that while unlikely, you could've been carrying the virus for a long time before the symptoms popped up.
Mister Fox
03-01-20, 16:26
Firstly thank you all for your contributions here. This is not a review, but a big call for help. I am worried and terrified as I write this. I don't even know if this is where I should post this but this is the only place I knew of the provider from. I did a big mistake and I have understood my mistake and am sure to never repeat again. I went bb with one of the providers reviewed here about a week back (not mentioning who) and today morning, I have started getting blisters down there and its itching as well. The itching started 2 days back, but it does not hurt yet. I have no clue what I have done to myself. I am getting worried as to whether this is herpes?
I am not even sure if this is where I should be asking this, but I am turning to this board, as you all have helped me when I needed you. I have a different login that I use here for my reviews. Looking for any kind of help, if any of you have had similar kind of experience. I am hoping at least one of you can help me.
Please pm me with whatever you have. Not sure how to move ahead, I would not like to say this to my doctor, as I am ashamed. Is there another way to get tested? And also has anybody else gone through what I am going through? Please do pm me with any kind of help.You already got some good advice from others on this matter and yes it does sound like herpes. I also want to point out the fact that you could've gotten that from another provider that you didn't go bb with. With herpes, it doesn't matter if you used protection or not. That's why a lot of times, especially during car dates, I keep my boxers on.
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Would you fuck a girl knowing she has HSV2?
Even if she's not having outbreak, and you use a condom?
Seems like this thing is transmitted with skin to skin contact.
Very tempting but damn, maybe best to find another sugar baby pussy.
FarFarAway
03-15-20, 11:07
Effectively, this virus is also sexually transmitted. Given that most people don't know they carry it and are passing it as a result, what's a monger or SD to do in these trying times? I am effectively getting out of the sugar bowl for the moment, but am interested to hear other's approaches. FFA.
Hey guys,
Recently decided to go BB with a few providers, and am now regretting it. Luckily, I am still within 24 h period and am considering going on PEP to reduce risk of HIV. However, it seems there is no real study on the effectiveness of PEP for HIV prevention. Does anyone know any good numbers around PEP's effectiveness with sources? The reason I ask is it'll cost me a bit over a thousand, and I've found very little proof that it actually does anything.
Secondly, while on PEP, is it a hall-pass to indulge in risky behavior while on the regimen?
Thanks.
MongerSeeker
03-21-20, 12:50
I am holding off until more is known or at least virus is more contained.
Effectively, this virus is also sexually transmitted. Given that most people don't know they carry it and are passing it as a result, what's a monger or SD to do in these trying times? I am effectively getting out of the sugar bowl for the moment, but am interested to hear other's approaches. FFA.
MongerSeeker
03-21-20, 13:00
Just search on PrEP. My doctor told me that PrEP has roughly a 99% success rate. The CDC says that there is a 74% success rate. BBJ's are fairly safe, but I think engaging in BBFS or BB anal is foolish.
(https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html).
Hey guys,
Recently decided to go BB with a few providers, and am now regretting it. Luckily, I am still within 24 h period and am considering going on PEP to reduce risk of HIV. However, it seems there is no real study on the effectiveness of PEP for HIV prevention. Does anyone know any good numbers around PEP's effectiveness with sources? The reason I ask is it'll cost me a bit over a thousand, and I've found very little proof that it actually does anything.
Secondly, while on PEP, is it a hall-pass to indulge in risky behavior while on the regimen?
Thanks.
VovaUkrainian
04-13-20, 13:10
Hey guys,
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger. I've personally only done it twice so far and I did get seen afterwards extensively from my provider to rule out anything. When I come here it's fun to see you guys extensively talking about it and finding all providers who do it and I have to say that is fun to watch all of this. I had to say that having sex with a rubber has felt pretty much the same to me or at least with a minimal difference than uncovered sex. Time for coming has been pretty much the same and depending on how wet the provider is, it's sometimes blurry to realize that I'm wearing a rubber. Having a peace of mind is also great. This is getting long. What exactly goes through the mindset of many of you people? FYI. I got a degree in CSE and a minor in psychology so understanding many of these things are exhilarating for me. Thank you.
SmoothNSimple
04-13-20, 18:03
I've been at this game just under 4 years and it was a progression for me. I didn't even think BBBJ was an option, when I first started. After seeing a couple providers, I began reading forums and realized what I was missing out on. BBBJ became my standard, and DATY soon followed. I really wanted BBFS, but didn't try it for the first year, because I was worried about the risks. I finally worked up the courage and have been seeking it ever since. It's not a decision maker for me, though; sometimes I'll pick a girl solely on her looks and she doesn't offer it. In those situations, I know ahead of time what I'm getting into, so I'm not expecting it. That being said, my primary goal is BBFSCIP, which I don't think feels anything like CFS. Even more so from a mental perspective; for me, there's nothing more exciting / empowering / satisfying than dumping a load in a girl.
Hey guys,
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger. I've personally only done it twice so far and I did get seen afterwards extensively from my provider to rule out anything. When I come here it's fun to see you guys extensively talking about it and finding all providers who do it and I have to say that is fun to watch all of this. I had to say that having sex with a rubber has felt pretty much the same to me or at least with a minimal difference than uncovered sex. Time for coming has been pretty much the same and depending on how wet the provider is, it's sometimes blurry to realize that I'm wearing a rubber. Having a peace of mind is also great. This is getting long. What exactly goes through the mindset of many of you people? FYI. I got a degree in CSE and a minor in psychology so understanding many of these things are exhilarating for me. Thank you.
Marko Ramius
04-13-20, 22:00
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger....Funny, I've never thought of "BBFS monger" as a category or thought of myself as one. I don't exactly go looking for it and a girl that either openly advertises BBFS or is well-known to provide it is unlikely to get on my TDL.
I'm pretty picky about which girls I see, and when I find one I like and am comfortable with I tend to repeat, typically seeing them 3-4 times a month. In my experience if you are having repeat sessions with a girl BBFS will eventually be offered, either for a modest up-sell or just put out there gratis.
NoDrama2018
04-15-20, 18:04
So I consider myself to be the King of BB. It is my M. O. When I visit with these ladies of the night. I have doing this for almost 4 years now with NO STD's and I dumped loads into 29 ladies, and some I have been a regular with the entire time. Here is my personal plan (works for me, may not for others).
I get tested every 3 months, period. I use STDcheck.com.
I never do anything with a girl with trackmarks. I stop and leave. I also never give donations until its over.
I never do anything with a girl smelling like Starkiss Tuna! Same as above. She isn't clean.
I never negotiate BB until I meet her, then I drop it that I only do BB. Never had one say no as they want the money.
Best experience ever: I did get to do a MFM with one 2 years back and we took turns dropping our loads in her. I did 2, my buddy did 3. It was awesome. I wish she was still around.I can't stop laughing at you. Do you get a large volume discount at the lab? Is it like Cheers, where everybody knows your name? "Norm!
Hysterical.
JulioJones193
04-25-20, 09:33
Hey guys, I'm new to this and I was wondering what are the odds I could catch a STD or something from a girl? I was thinking of going BBBJ. Thanks.
FarFarAway
05-08-20, 16:49
This is a fantastic post about what is risky (and not so much) for transmission. IDK how one keeps safe as a monger, though.
https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Pkkx7OHlOkBoFFS-CAqVNcIKVrnEai-KfbSS8lvYzRpf4wsgbqEcaKvI
Seriousfun
05-08-20, 19:27
Thanks. This is very high quality information.
This is a fantastic post about what is risky (and not so much) for transmission. IDK how one keeps safe as a monger, though.
https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Pkkx7OHlOkBoFFS-CAqVNcIKVrnEai-KfbSS8lvYzRpf4wsgbqEcaKvI
BBNovice2018
05-10-20, 16:25
You probably will infect everyone you live with.
This is a fantastic post about what is risky (and not so much) for transmission. IDK how one keeps safe as a monger, though.
https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Pkkx7OHlOkBoFFS-CAqVNcIKVrnEai-KfbSS8lvYzRpf4wsgbqEcaKvI
You probably will infect everyone you live with.Anyone keep a secret anti-biotic stash just in case you get a surprise "gift" following an encounter??
Hey guys,
I've been wondering since the day I've made my account of what exactly goes through the mind of a BBFS monger. I've personally only done it twice so far and I did get seen afterwards extensively from my provider to rule out anything. When I come here it's fun to see you guys extensively talking about it and finding all providers who do it and I have to say that is fun to watch all of this. I had to say that having sex with a rubber has felt pretty much the same to me or at least with a minimal difference than uncovered sex. Time for coming has been pretty much the same and depending on how wet the provider is, it's sometimes blurry to realize that I'm wearing a rubber. Having a peace of mind is also great. This is getting long. What exactly goes through the mindset of many of you people?I've only done it 3 times and it was with the same girl. We agreed to a BBBJ, but she asked if I wanted a rubber when it came time for sex. I was surprised to say the least when she gave me the option and opted to go bare. The last time I saw her I thought about what I'd been doing and felt pretty dumb. The thought of the 10 other guys she'd seen that day fucking her bare sent chills down my spine. I can't say I'd never do it again, but it's yet to happen since.
Bare sex doesn't feel that much better to me either and isn't something I actively seek. I think it's mostly a mental thing. It feels more intimate to fuck a girl raw. Knowing that a provider will do it makes her less attractive in my eyes though. Girls who have a strict covered only policy seem cleaner and just feel better to be around.
Visconti5683
07-21-20, 17:25
So I'm sure it has been posted before but regardless I want to bump it since I was so satisfied with the process. I ended up getting a little reckless after I started my rounds when Covid had settled down in my area. I usually always wrap up for anything but decided to skip that for the BBBJ and I was all in on some DATY at a few AMP's and an escort. I would say 3-4 weeks after my binge to make up for lost time I was pissing needles. I was pretty fucking scared. But found push health which is basically a quick virtual doctor situation. I did put in my real name, birth date etc. But put an old address because I can't have shit sent to my house. I understand there may be some trail in my health records (maybe not. Not sure how that works) which is fine. Not a big deal to me just don't want anything coming in the mail. I literally had a prescription sent to pharmacy within an hour of signing up. I never had to speak to a doctor just put my symptoms and got a notification that prescription was sent. I understand the importance of testing and following the process but to get something in my system quick this was great. In case you are wondering I am pissing like a champ now, went in to PP for a test, and going back in a few months for another. Anyways Push Health = good shit. Stay safe out there.
Read a lot of this, question is what is the % of mongers that catch the bug when rolling with a massage parlor girl. Does keeping a mask on really reduce the risk of spread enough to do it. Also if you think a about it, if I guy that had the bug came in before you during the day and was sucking on her tits, are they now contaminated and you risk getting it sticking your face in her chest?
So I'm sure it has been posted before but regardless I want to bump it since I was so satisfied with the process. I ended up getting a little reckless after I started my rounds when Covid had settled down in my area. I usually always wrap up for anything but decided to skip that for the BBBJ and I was all in on some DATY at a few AMP's and an escort. I would say 3-4 weeks after my binge to make up for lost time I was pissing needles. I was pretty fucking scared. But found push health which is basically a quick virtual doctor situation. I did put in my real name, birth date etc. But put an old address because I can't have shit sent to my house. I understand there may be some trail in my health records (maybe not. Not sure how that works) which is fine. Not a big deal to me just don't want anything coming in the mail. I literally had a prescription sent to pharmacy within an hour of signing up. I never had to speak to a doctor just put my symptoms and got a notification that prescription was sent. I understand the importance of testing and following the process but to get something in my system quick this was great. In case you are wondering I am pissing like a champ now, went in to PP for a test, and going back in a few months for another. Anyways Push Health = good shit. Stay safe out there.So the only thing you did bb was get a BBBJ? Wow, that is one of the statistically small cases of getting something that way. Did you ever find out what it was that you had? And what medicine did they prescribe?
Visconti5683
08-04-20, 17:50
So the only thing you did bb was get a BBBJ? Wow, that is one of the statistically small cases of getting something that way. Did you ever find out what it was that you had? And what medicine did they prescribe?I know it. I was surprised. There is a new AMP with a girl that is popular AF by me and the escort was a budget buy so I would assume it was one of those but who knows. Azithromycin and Cefixime were prescribed which I believe cover clap and the G. I ended up getting a 10 panel with the HIV RNA added on to it because I freaked myself out. Everything was good so the prescriptions did their job.
Pussylicker2
11-09-20, 12:38
I even know a couple that will do bb anal. Talk about risky.Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.
BingeMadman
11-09-20, 12:55
Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.Absolutely. You need to google that and learn about STD's. Yes anal is very risky.
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/sexual-health/does-anal-sex-have-any-health-risks/
Here you go. Anything not protected has risks.
Dumpster Fire
11-09-20, 13:04
Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.Why is BBBJ seemingly not a big deal?
GuyDetroit
11-09-20, 13:19
Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.Butt sex is the number one way to catch the package, where have you been all these years. Blood is the number one way to get it.
Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.I'd worry about two types of Hepatitis, HIV and HSV2 and the standard bacterial stuff.
But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.AIDS was originally known as GRID (Gay Related Immuno Deficiency). Why? Because it was mainly spreading through the homosexual community since they did all of the unprotected butt sex. Anal sex makes it very easy to expose yourself to blood borne pathogens.
There are people that think only the receivers of gay anal sex can get HIV. So those guys say they can't get it because they are straight.
There are people that think only the receivers of gay anal sex can get HIV. So those guys say they can't get it because they are straight.With stats from CDC and solid info from sources like WebMD, there's no excuse for speculating.
Want to know how many adults have HSV2, how many are asymptomatic, who catches STDs more easily from oral. Men or women? It's a quick Google question away.
Want info on incubation periods, surf the stdcheck.com website. Get the ten panel test periodically there too. Note your doctor probably only runs tests for the bacterial STDs. Same with Health Department. Don't skip the viral stuff.
Can a man catch anything from greeking a girl? I know aids can be passed in semen to the person receiving the semen, and a man can catch syphilis or gonorrhea if he dicks an infected pussy bare back. But I don't think a man can catch anything from sticking his dick up a butt.I'm not sure there's an excuse for thinking this in 2020. Anal sex is the most dangerous sex due to the higher chance of exposure to blood and membrane, which can give you HIV and other things. It's not a good idea to have unprotected anal sex with anyone unless you're in a relationship with them and regularly get tested.
HardMuscle1
11-10-20, 07:03
I'm not sure there's an excuse for thinking this in 2020. Anal sex is the most dangerous sex due to the higher chance of exposure to blood and membrane, which can give you HIV and other things. It's not a good idea to have unprotected anal sex with anyone unless you're in a relationship with them and regularly get tested.I agree with TheBro, higher probability with Anal sex to have transmission thru blood, than vaginal and oral sex. Just like the probability is higher in catching an STD with this hobby than meeting someone in the bar or even tinder, bumble etc. More traffic, more potential to harm yourself. Best bet is to cover up, although we know that doesn't feel as good and depending on the provider and where are head is at the time, shit happens! Stay Safe Everyone!
Benjamin99
11-10-20, 19:43
Really? Wow, I wouldn't have thought that BBBJ was high risk at all.I thought the same and I'm very selective who do I see. About one year ago I've got Clamidya from BBBJ. The doctor I saw did assure me that Clamidya and Ghonorea can be transmitted through unprotected oral. Never had unprotected BBFS with a provider, oral was the way I've got it. Luckily it can be treated easily.
You can never be too safe.
Ben.
NotaSexAddict
11-10-20, 20:15
Really? Wow, I wouldn't have thought that BBBJ was high risk at all.I don't know about "high" risk, but there is a risk. Stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia are possible. And if she has oral HSV, that one is possible to get too.
Dumpster Fire
11-10-20, 21:23
I don't know about "high" risk, but there is a risk. Stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia are possible. And if she has oral HSV, that one is possible to get too.That settles it! I'm stickin' with BB foot jobs only!
Concupiscent69
11-10-20, 22:40
[QUOTE=Lamarr;5065048]Really? Wow, I wouldn't have thought that BBBJ was high risk at all.[/QUOTEhttps://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm
Concupiscent69
11-10-20, 22:45
I don't know about "high" risk, but there is a risk. Stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia are possible. And if she has oral HSV, that one is possible to get too.Any exchange of bodily fluids has the potential to spread diseases, bacteria, etc. Oral sex entails open membrane tissue exposed to another person's open membrane tissue transported by saliva, open sores, blood (if applicable) etc. There is ALWAYS a potential to catch something if no cover is used.
Pussylicker2
11-11-20, 00:37
With stats from CDC and solid info from sources like WebMD, there's no excuse for speculating.
Want to know how many adults have HSV2, how many are asymptomatic, who catches STDs more easily from oral. Men or women? It's a quick Google question away.
Want info on incubation periods, surf the stdcheck.com website. Get the ten panel test periodically there too. Note your doctor probably only runs tests for the bacterial STDs. Same with Health Department. Don't skip the viral stuff.The CDC is a political agency, not a scientific one. Look up Paul Michael Glaser, an actor who played in the TV show starsky and hutch. His wife had aids for 4 years before they found out, yet he never caught it from her. Aids is spread when a person that has it puts their blood or semen into the bloodstream of another person. Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened. In Africa is is spread from prostitutes to their clients. Whats the difference? In Africa body lice are common.
I do wonder if a man can catch it from sucking milk from tits and swallowing it. Or from body lice or bed bugs. I've had gonorrhea about 5 times and syphilis once. It was always from BBFS. I've had BBBJ from at least 1,000 women over the last 50 years, and I've never caught anything from it.
Sure, it may be "possible", but its also possible to find a million dollar lottery ticket on the ground. It ain't going to happen.
Certainly the CDC has been used in political ways recently. Longterm, they still are a reliable source of statistics.
Your explanation of how HIV is transmitted SEEMS to suggest you've never heard of a virus. Semen doesn't enter blood. Further, the prevalence of AIDS in Africa has to do with the rare use of condoms, the lack of education, and the progression of HIV into AIDS for lack of access to anti viral cocktails.
The early information on Aids you recall from the 70's, probably came from religious organizations, not CDC.
The CDC is a political agency, not a scientific one. Look up Paul Michael Glaser, an actor who played in the TV show starsky and hutch. His wife had aids for 4 years before they found out, yet he never caught it from her. Aids is spread when a person that has it puts their blood or semen into the bloodstream of another person. Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened. In Africa is is spread from prostitutes to their clients. Whats the difference? In Africa body lice are common.
I do wonder if a man can catch it from sucking milk from tits and swallowing it. Or from body lice or bed bugs. I've had gonorrhea about 5 times and syphilis once. It was always from BBFS. I've had BBBJ from at least 1,000 women over the last 50 years, and I've never caught anything from it.
Sure, it may be "possible", but its also possible to find a million dollar lottery ticket on the ground. It ain't going to happen.
No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job Magic Johnson wants a word with you.
I have never read a more incorrect comment here.
Gentlemen,
Can we please move over all the "expert opinions" over to general reports section? The topic here is escort reports.
Thanks.
Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened.If you recall, it was gay men having anal sex which caused the initial spread of aids.
Concupiscent69
11-11-20, 12:58
The CDC is a political agency, not a scientific one. Look up Paul Michael Glaser, an actor who played in the TV show starsky and hutch. His wife had aids for 4 years before they found out, yet he never caught it from her. Aids is spread when a person that has it puts their blood or semen into the bloodstream of another person. Semen in the butt finds its way into the blood. No straight man in America has ever caught aids from a woman by fucking her in the butt or pussy or from getting a blow job. In the 1970's we heard that aids was going to spread from drug addicted hookers to their clients. It never happened. In Africa is is spread from prostitutes to their clients. Whats the difference? In Africa body lice are common.
I do wonder if a man can catch it from sucking milk from tits and swallowing it. Or from body lice or bed bugs. I've had gonorrhea about 5 times and syphilis once. It was always from BBFS. I've had BBBJ from at least 1,000 women over the last 50 years, and I've never caught anything from it.
Sure, it may be "possible", but its also possible to find a million dollar lottery ticket on the ground. It ain't going to happen.https://hivinfo.nih.gov/understanding-hiv/fact-sheets/hivaids-basics
Eaton Beaver
11-11-20, 13:53
If you recall, it was gay men having anal sex which caused the initial spread of aids.It was called "Gay Cancer" for a while.
Pussylicker2
11-11-20, 14:44
It was called "Gay Cancer" for a while.It couldn't spread in the heterosexual community. If a man had it, he could only infect women, and they couldn't infect anyone. It only spread because it was in the gay community. It is also spread among iv drug users, but they can only spread it to other iv drug users. The spread of aids is almost entirely a result of the gay lifestyle, and we're all paying a price.
SlightlyHere
11-11-20, 14:52
So, I recently got an appointment to see Shay.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/white-girl-shay/34150521
https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/11277443
So, I've been texting her for a while, and this morning, she finally text me back saying the's available. Mornings are my thing, so she got my attention. Turns out she wants $1. 8 for hh and $2. 2 for hr, which is pretty damn high. But her attitude is, "If you don't want BBBJ and BBFS, bring a cover. " Like, she's defaulting to BB at those prices. Kinda scary, but anyhow, she's out at 19 and vandyke, in a trailer park around there. Didn't feel unsafe at all.
Her trailer is a mess, dog obviously scratched the shit out of the wall. It's not a mess like, things everywhere, it's more like, just hadn't been vacuumed, and I wouldn't want to sit on the couch type way that a lot of these ladies places look / feel. Her bedroom was pretty clean though, and the mattress on the floor was made. She's obviously bigger than her pics, by about 30 lbs, and she lets her top open up to some massive tattoo'd cannons, on top of a slightly smaller FUPA.
I just couldn't do it. I noped out, gave her $20, and hit the street. She wasted both of our time thinking that when I said that I liked petite women, that I'd still accept her, and, . . . Nope!
Good news is that this chick was so non-chalant about BBFS that it really made me question things, and I bought 24 condoms!
Dunno how good she is in the sack, but do know that she isn't that petite girl in the pics.
Alright, stay safe.
It couldn't spread in the heterosexual community. If a man had it, he could only infect women, and they couldn't infect anyone. It only spread because it was in the gay community. It is also spread among iv drug users, but they can only spread it to other iv drug users. The spread of aids is almost entirely a result of the gay lifestyle, and we're all paying a price.How is it that a woman infected with aids wouldn't be able to spread it to anyone? If an infected man fucks a girl and and gives it to her, and she were to go on and have sex with another guy, wouldn't that guy get aids too? I'm no aids expert, but that sounds off. Unless I'm misreading what you said.
I don't doubt that a high percentage of aids patients in the world are gay men, but your narrative needs work.
Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.
Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.
Mattis1775
11-15-20, 19:06
That's part of the risk of playing this game. To be honest, I never got STI from a SW. I've gotten a few STI from escorts that were my regulars. If you can believe that! I've done it all, BBBJ, BBFS. But, no anal. Just know that BMC Health Clinic is down the street from NMS if you ever need it. If you're that worried, cover up.
Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.
Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.
Jock itch from yeast infections are your main concern. If your itching go get some cream. And yes you can get jock itch from their mouth. Especially if they got some nubbs which will be the norm if the reports of massive amounts of meth being shipped in the US cause of precursor import problems from China with the fynt.
Can't tell ya how many pussies I've helped clean up once I felt an itch. Haha!!
The next time I see 'them I'll buy' them a tube of monistat.
A clean pussy is a healthy pussy.
The clinics test 'them for STI' s which they go on the daily / weekly / monthly depending on binge, drug, person. But even the ones who smoke hard got to go to the clinic for some reason. So STI's don't have a chance to proliferate in the Gen homeless pop.
The escorts are the ones who you going to watch out for. They don't have that care the homeless do.
Mattis1775
11-16-20, 09:53
Indeed, I got HPV from a long time escort that I've seen for years. Homeless SW's does have access to medical treatments than any of us.
"The escorts are the ones who you going to watch out for. They don't have that care the homeless do. ".
I've picked up or made appointments with all manner of Ho's from high end escorts down to drug addled $10 street ho's and everything in between since 1982. That literally 100's of ho's. I've done BBBJ, BBFS, and covered service.
Never once in almost 40 years have ever gotten as much as the sniffles. No crabs, lice, STI, etc.Lucky fucker. Anyway, my last STI was in the mid-early 1990's when I was getting my feet wet in the game. It was a BSW I met on Washington St in Lower Roxbury. Average looks, nice ass, got an STI from her and it scared me shitless. Ended up getting a couple of shots in my ass at the former clinic on Warren St and Quincy. I also had gotten crabs from another BSW and fuck me, if that shit didn't itch and look frightening. Some good ol ointment and a comb cleaned it up in a day.
JimXuper90
11-25-20, 17:27
Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.
Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.Most of the STDs might not be very serious. But HIV and Hepatitis will change your life completely.
Most of the STDs might not be very serious. But HIV and Hepatitis will change your life completely.I've gotten bed bugs in my car from a SW.
Have any of you guys contracted lice or scabies from a SW? I would that especially when she is giving you oral, you'd be at greater risk of head lice.
Sorry to gross anyone out, but I can't see how it would be avoided.I've never contracted anything while I stayed at 112 shelter.
For 2 years when I was in boston. Trust me I've had my fair share of street walkers while I was down there. It was my addiction if you want to call it that lmao I just ended up in Boston randomly after getting on greyhound I don't have any drug or alcohol issues (surprised a lot of people LOL) but every time I hooked up I used condom for everything, SW would often get offended when I would put a condom on for oral (better safe than sorry haha) anyways it's not too much of the regular STDs your thinking, but HIV and hep c is real big on the ave I mean real big. Most of them have hep c from the needles and a lot of them have the bug. They may get clean needles but they often share tiny caps were they stir drugs that's where everything is transmitted from what I've learned. Just make sure you keep water based lube that's compatible with condoms and go all in. I'm back in Midwest and miss the ave lmao I'm planning on going back for another trip probably will get me a apt and stay for good haha.
Hey all,
Definitely want to get it straight, no sugar coating please. I wanted to know from the experienced mongers who frequent Korean BB girls.
How often have you ever caught an STD from all your time seeing these girls, or seeing your ATF. Just wanted to know what to expect.
JohnDick75
12-05-20, 22:54
I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.
Spanker100
12-06-20, 02:47
I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.Wait, you spend hundreds of dollars to nail some asian skank, then you're worried about having to pay for a simple blood test?
I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.Doubt anyone would know what she does or doesn't do.
Every insurance plan is different. Some may cover a test, some may not. You need to contact your insurance company for the answer.
Also you may be pursuing the wrong hobby if you are that worried.
JohnDick75
12-06-20, 06:56
Wait, you spend hundreds of dollars to nail some asian skank, then you're worried about having to pay for a simple blood test?Not worried about paying worried about paper trail if free they don't usually don't keep much detail it's a lot more simple.
JohnDick75
12-06-20, 06:58
Doubt anyone would know what she does or doesn't do.
Every insurance plan is different. Some may cover a test, some may not. You need to contact your insurance company for the answer.
Also you may be pursuing the wrong hobby if you are that worried.STD's suck but manageable however HIV life changing.
Doubt anyone would know what she does or doesn't do.
Every insurance plan is different. Some may cover a test, some may not. You need to contact your insurance company for the answer.
Also you may be pursuing the wrong hobby if you are that worried.HIV through vaginal, penetrative sex, while the provider is not on her period, where both partners are NOT using a condom, is a 1/5000 chance of transmission, condoms are 99.9% effective at blocking HIV.
This means that there is a 1/5,000,000 chance of you getting HIV from fucking this provider. This means to have a 50/50 chance of it, you'd need to fuck her 2. 5 million times.
If every time you feel a tickle, you jump to "IT MIGHT BE HIV" -- Then you're probably not emotionally ready to have sex, much less pay to do so -- though the reason you're likely not getting sex and have to pay to do so is because you're not emotionally ready.
Vicious cycle.
Mattis1775
12-06-20, 07:22
STD questions should go in the STD Forum and you'll find a lot of information regarding testing and insurance in there. As far as being worried if you have STDs, go get yourself checked out. That's the risk of playing this game regardless of whether you're using protection or not. Dude, if you're worried every time you see a provider, stick with the HE or DIY.
I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.
HIV through vaginal, penetrative sex, while the provider is not on her period, where both partners are NOT using a condom, is a 1/5000 chance of transmission, condoms are 99.9% effective at blocking HIV.
This means that there is a 1/5,000,000 chance of you getting HIV from fucking this provider. This means to have a 50/50 chance of it, you'd need to fuck her 2. 5 million times.
If every time you feel a tickle, you jump to "IT MIGHT BE HIV" -- Then you're probably not emotionally ready to have sex, much less pay to do so -- though the reason you're likely not getting sex and have to pay to do so is because you're not emotionally ready.
Vicious cycle.Your stats are wrong.
I'm not sure if allowed to ask but I just realized as an old provider she's been around the block and worried that I may have STD though I used a condom there not 100 percent effective also want to know if HIV test are covered by medical insurance.One option is to use an FDA approved home test, like OraQuick. It's available over the counter at CVS / Walgreens and costs like 50 $.
There are some concerns about it reporting false negatives, but you could always buy two and test yourself twice. The odds of two false negatives are exceedingly low.
JohnDick75
12-06-20, 09:47
One option is to use an FDA approved home test, like OraQuick. It's available over the counter at CVS / Walgreens and costs like 50 $.
There are some concerns about it reporting false negatives, but you could always buy two and test yourself twice. The odds of two false negatives are exceedingly low.Yeah thanks I'll do that.
Your stats are wrong.Ah shit, you're right -- 1/2500 and not 1/5000, https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html.
With condoms being 90-95% effective. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9141163/).
Thus my number changes from 1/5,000,000 to 1/25,000 - 1/50,000, meaning the the median would be having sex with someone 13,500 times with an infected partner before getting it.
JohnDick75
12-06-20, 20:03
Your stats are wrong.Are these stats accurate someone post this on Rubmaps.
https://www.poz.com/pdfs/P04-14p53.risk_transmission.pdf
Sorry for the newb post. I'm new to the area and also this activity but have read back 60-70 pgs or so in this thread and read about your guys' great escapades.
I'm young and never done this sort of thing but am willing to give it a shot, and some of you mention the dangers of going BB with some of these Kgirls.
I wanted to ask if any of y'all ever actually caught an STI from one of these girls, especially something like Herpes, HIV, etc. (obviously others like chlamydia are bad too but they're at least treatable, right)? Or if you ask a girl if she gets tested / safe, could you expect an honest answer?
Sorry for noob question--I plan to contribute but haven't tested the waters yet for this type of health concern. Any advice is appreciated!
CafeRaceritali
12-11-20, 11:02
About two years ago after a visit to an AMP in the suburbs I noticed a tingle dealing in the tip of my dock. With time this turned in to constant inflammation, irritation during urination and sometimes painful ejaculation. I'm married, so naturally, I freaked out. I got STD tests and UTI test and they all came back negative. I went out and got Antibiotics and the symptoms went away, only to return after a subsequently had sex with my wife. I had passed the bacteria on to her. What followed were four months of absolute hell, worrying as to how I would ever get rid of the damned tickle dick. Finally, my opportunity came when wife got strep throat, and needed antibiotics. I ran out to the doctor the same day and claimed I too had strep and needed antibiotics. Problem solved.
So I quit the hobby for a while and totally forgot about the whole tickle dock thing. Then, this past month, I got cocky. I went to an AMP in west suburbs. Within weeks, I started feeling tickle duck again. It's back, though the symptoms are not as noticeable. The first time I got tickle dick the MT had put her mouth BBBJ on me briefly. I thought that was how it was transmitted.
This second time, I only got HJ with oil. The place was a bit dirty.
My point: be careful out there, there is something floating around, it is highly contagious, and you're not going to read about it on Google. Also, I seem to have gotten it through a simple HJ.
Of anyone has any shared experience, please share. Advice would be helpful too. I need a new hobby.
NotaSexAddict
12-21-20, 23:24
After going BBBJ and DFK with a known provider around here every couple weeks, I'm sick again with a really mild sore throat, mild congestion, mild headache and a slightly slow and / or heavy urine stream. I tested negative for everything earlier in the year and never figured out why I was sick for about two months. I tested negative for COVID around TG when I started getting sick for a couple days. I thought I was past it, but now I've been constantly low level sick for about two weeks. This same shit started happening around January when I went BBBJ with a different provider.
Does this sound like anyone's experience with gonorrhea or chlamydia, or is this just another STD scare? I'm thinking maybe it's time to end this hobby if I keep getting these scares.
Just curious. Has anyone here ever caught anything at all from an AMP? If so, was it FS? BJ? HE? Just curious on the risk.
Interesting.
I've had that before as well. A sharp razor-like pain with the first drop of pee. Then it's ok although slight discomfort throughout.
However, no discharge at all. Did you ever find out if it was an STD? Or a UTI? Did the antibiotics clear it up?
I go bare 100%. I know these things can happen!
About two years ago after a visit to an AMP in the suburbs I noticed a tingle dealing in the tip of my dock. With time this turned in to constant inflammation, irritation during urination and sometimes painful ejaculation. I'm married, so naturally, I freaked out. I got STD tests and UTI test and they all came back negative. I went out and got Antibiotics and the symptoms went away, only to return after a subsequently had sex with my wife. I had passed the bacteria on to her. What followed were four months of absolute hell, worrying as to how I would ever get rid of the damned tickle dick. Finally, my opportunity came when wife got strep throat, and needed antibiotics. I ran out to the doctor the same day and claimed I too had strep and needed antibiotics. Problem solved.
So I quit the hobby for a while and totally forgot about the whole tickle dock thing. Then, this past month, I got cocky. I went to an AMP in west suburbs. Within weeks, I started feeling tickle duck again. It's back, though the symptoms are not as noticeable. The first time I got tickle dick the MT had put her mouth BBBJ on me briefly. I thought that was how it was transmitted.
This second time, I only got HJ with oil. The place was a bit dirty.
My point: be careful out there, there is something floating around, it is highly contagious, and you're not going to read about it on Google. Also, I seem to have gotten it through a simple HJ.
Of anyone has any shared experience, please share. Advice would be helpful too. I need a new hobby.
New to the game, are the girls safe at these Asian apartments?
Any advice from pros will be helpful. Guide on where to visit?
New to the game, are the girls safe at these Asian apartments?
Any advice from pros will be helpful. Guide on where to visit?As in physical safety, very safe. As in STIs who knows you are visiting a girl who may see up to 12 guys a day.
New to the game, are the girls safe at these Asian apartments?
Any advice from pros will be helpful. Guide on where to visit?No, its not 100% safe. There are risks.
No, its not 100% safe. There are risks.How big is the risk of HIV?
SlightlyHere
01-27-21, 12:20
Free health check.
Credit to: Brian Detroit Brian.
Just wanted to put a plug in for the Detroit Public Health Clinic at 50 E. Canfield St. In Detroit.
A2 - please move if you think there's a better spot for this post.
I try to go here once a year or so to get the all clear on STDs. Found it a few years back when I had a condom break inside the pussy of a particularly sketchy SP.
They take walk-ins from Monday-Friday 8:00 am to 4:00 pm. There's free parking in a gated lot next door. They test for gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, and HIV. They give HIV results while you're there. Other results take a week, BUT they will treat you for whatever you think you have right then, even before the results come back. That means they give you an antibiotic shot in the ass, and a 7 day supply of pills when you walk out the door.
If you do it right, it is anonymous and costs nothing. They will ask you for an insurance card. Tell them you lost your job and don't have insurance. They will ask you for an I'd. Tell them you lost your wallet and are waiting for another driver's license in the mail. When you fill out the paperwork, you can put a fake name, address, cell phone number, and date of birth. Just make sure you remember what you put, because they will ask for it when you get your results.
I put my burner phone number down as my cell phone number. They will call this number only if your test comes back positive. Put a fake or non-working number if you don't have a burner phone. You can call the clinic number to get your results if you don't want them calling.
Any of us who regularly do anything BB, including BBBJ, should pay them a visit. I've done the STD check website before, which costs $200+ AND then you have to wait to get treated after waiting 3 days for results. The Detroit clinic is a way better option.
Happily got my all clear again last week.
I noticed ads on STG about a reliable AA provider, claiming she's got HIV. Any advice for someone who has seen her recently? I always bring and use my own protection. Real shame if its true, def one of my favs.
KillerPurps
01-31-21, 10:51
I noticed ads on STG about a reliable AA provider, claiming she's got HIV. Any advice for someone who has seen her recently? I always bring and use my own protection. Real shame if its true, def one of my favs.Assume they all have HIV and HepC.
Monger Man303
01-31-21, 12:09
Agree, assume they all have the HIV and although I have done it and survived, it's very risky to raw dog them. Every time I've done it, I sweated until I could confirm I didn't pick up anything so I just stopped doing it. Bring your own is the best practice. The HIV is just one of many gifts you don't want. Even though some of these girls can be pretty convincing that they're clean, the bottom line is she fucks mongers for money. Some mongers know they have shit and still raw dog these girls, the next raw dogger will take that home to the wife, gf, etc. I raw dog the gf, and wrap up on the providers.
My 2 cents.
Assume they all have HIV and HepC.
Rockies4400
02-19-21, 11:47
I'm not a BBFS fan. But I see a lot of providers that's hell bent on no BBFS but offer BBBJCIM. Is it me or is that a little crazy. LOL. What's the difference from sending the kids down their throat then her glory hole?. LOL.STD risk is lower with BBBJ. Still a risk for herpes transmission (but most have it already). But you can't get HIV from BBBJ. Most of the other bugs can be transmitted orally, but not as readily. The risk of transmission is higher for the provider.
It's also a feature of market demand. If providers could get away with CBJ they would do it, and some of those in higher demand require it.
KoolBreeze
02-19-21, 13:24
STD risk is lower with BBBJ. Still a risk for herpes transmission (but most have it already). But you can't get HIV from BBBJ. Most of the other bugs can be transmitted orally, but not as readily. The risk of transmission is higher for the provider.
It's also a feature of market demand. If providers could get away with CBJ they would do it, and some of those in higher demand require it.I'm pretty sure CIM make the risk just as high. Not a doctor so I'm not sure.
STD risk is lower with BBBJ. Still a risk for herpes transmission (but most have it already). But you can't get HIV from BBBJ. Most of the other bugs can be transmitted orally, but not as readily. The risk of transmission is higher for the provider.
It's also a feature of market demand. If providers could get away with CBJ they would do it, and some of those in higher demand require it.You most definitely CAN get HIV from oral sex. Just like all of the other STIs that I know of. The odds are different, but definitely possible for transmission to go either way.
For example: A girl I saw a long time ago had a broken tooth that cut and broke the skin on my dick, so she had my blood in her mouth and I had her saliva in my bloodstream. Not very much of either, but that's one way for it to happen. I was happy when my tests came back negative across the board.
The only safe sex is jerking off. And then, only if you're really sure where your hand has been. Everything else is a calculated risk. Not trying to be preachy here. I obviously have mongered plenty, and taken plenty of risks! Just don't want bad info being propagated.
Miggles Mcgee
02-20-21, 07:12
You most definitely CAN get HIV from oral sex. Just like all of the other STIs that I know of. The odds are different, but definitely possible for transmission to go either way.
For example: A girl I saw a long time ago had a broken tooth that cut and broke the skin on my dick, so she had my blood in her mouth and I had her saliva in my bloodstream. Not very much of either, but that's one way for it to happen. I was happy when my tests came back negative across the board.
The only safe sex is jerking off. And then, only if you're really sure where your hand has been. Everything else is a calculated risk. Not trying to be preachy here. I obviously have mongered plenty, and taken plenty of risks! Just don't want bad info being propagated.This is 100% wrong. All medical evidence clearly states that HIV is NOT transmitted via saliva. So while meth head saliva is disgusting and can carry any number of germs, HIV is not one of them.
RuggerForFun
02-20-21, 09:03
This is 100% wrong. All medical evidence clearly states that HIV is NOT transmitted via saliva. So while meth head saliva is disgusting and can carry any number of germs, HIV is not one of them.While catching something from a BBBJ is theoretically possible. It is statistically improbable. I spent about 40 hours researching this when I first started mongering. It is for the most part considered safe sex. For the guy anyway.
This is 100% wrong. All medical evidence clearly states that HIV is NOT transmitted via saliva. So while meth head saliva is disgusting and can carry any number of germs, HIV is not one of them.I admit, I should've stated things slightly differently rather than referring to her saliva as a possible source of infection.
However, someone with a broken tooth frequently cuts their own mouth with it, causing them to bleed (and if their general health is poor, their mouth won't heal as quickly as a healthy person). And, HIV infection is frequently accompanied by other STIs, the sores of which can bleed and leak other fun fluids, without it being obvious that this is going on. Given that the chick cut my dick with her tooth, there was possible direct exchange of blood, which most certainly can transmit HIV.
I never said it was likely, and I've only had about 3 covered blowjobs that were worth my time, so I take the calculated risk with providers and get BBBJs.
But accepting a small risk is entirely different than denying that the risk exists, and, unfortunately, the risk of catching SOMETHING from an infected blowjob giver is far from zero. This isn't like worrying about getting hit by lightning while smoking cigarettes. If you're sticking your unwrapped dick in someone's wet holes, you should get tested for STIs regularly.
Powerhouse100
02-20-21, 13:37
I admit, I should've stated things slightly differently rather than referring to her saliva as a possible source of infection.
However, someone with a broken tooth frequently cuts their own mouth with it, causing them to bleed (and if their general health is poor, their mouth won't heal as quickly as a healthy person). And, HIV infection is frequently accompanied by other STIs, the sores of which can bleed and leak other fun fluids, without it being obvious that this is going on. Given that the chick cut my dick with her tooth, there was possible direct exchange of blood, which most certainly can transmit HIV.
I never said it was likely, and I've only had about 3 covered blowjobs that were worth my time, so I take the calculated risk with providers and get BBBJs.
But accepting a small risk is entirely different than denying that the risk exists, and, unfortunately, the risk of catching SOMETHING from an infected blowjob giver is far from zero. This isn't like worrying about getting hit by lightning while smoking cigarettes. If you're sticking your unwrapped dick in someone's wet holes, you should get tested for STIs regularly.While I won't say what I do for a living, PlayTiem actually is correct. Fluids with highest concentration of HIV is in semen, blood, breast milk, and vaginal secretions. Low risk fluids include tears, saliva, and sweat unless mixed with obvious blood (Ignatavicious, 2018). Low risk means risk nonetheless; however low this may be. Even if it is less than 0. 0001%, I certain wouldn't want to be in this very small percentage. This is stuff I teach, by the way.
Powerhouse100
02-20-21, 13:40
I've been researching and following HIV since the '80's. It's a weird interest of mine since childhood.
First and foremost, HIV needs two openings to the bloodstream for transmission. Is it possible for you to get HIV from a BBBJ? Yes, there's always a chance, a small one but a chance. The reason it's so small is that a person's mouth heals very quickly from lacerations and abrasions. The mouth is genetically designed that way.
Back in the '90's, it was found that it takes 2 gallons of saliva to contract HIV, TWO GALLONS! Let that marinate.
If you guys are freaked out about it, you can take PREP to prevent HIV transmission. There are different forms of PREP, but you can see your doctor for more details.
Stay safe.Even with taking PREP, it is still recommended to cover up.
TempletonRat
02-23-21, 22:10
I am an adherent of the Korean bareback. As other devotees know, the sensation is like night and day compared to cfs.
It would be nice to have an appreciation of the risk involved, though. From online research, it looks like the chances of a M getting it from vaginal sex with an infected F is like 1%. I can live with that. (But what about those K girls taking loads all day. Their odds got to be high!
Anyway I was thinking of other STDs that can transmit more easily from infected F - M. Online stats seem to show much higher, like 60% for chlamydia / gonorrhea / syphilis!
Does anyone have any information or experience as to playing these percentages?
HesDeadJim
02-24-21, 10:16
Anyway I was thinking of other STDs that can transmit more easily from infected F - M. Online stats seem to show much higher, like 60% for chlamydia / gonorrhea / syphilis!
Does anyone have any information or experience as to playing these percentages?Without bothering to look it up and going just off of memory, you're not far off from correct according to the CDC website. Chlamydia and gonorrhea are by far the most easily transmittable of the STD's. It can happen both vaginally and orally. Herpes apparently can be transmitted without any symptoms showing but it is rare. HIV has literally zero confirmed cases from oral (BJ) and the infection rate is way higher for the person receiving the semen internallyespecially if it was received anally (thought to be due to cuts and or small tears associated with stretching the anus too far for something it was never designed).
Plus there are a host of other STDs that don't show any outward symptoms right away like HPV and hepatitis but but their transmission rates are still far below the old school VDs.
If you're serious about educating yourself on this, definitely go to the CDC's website. It is pretty much the national authority on STD education.
I am an adherent of the Korean bareback. As other devotees know, the sensation is like night and day compared to cfs.
It would be nice to have an appreciation of the risk involved, though. From online research, it looks like the chances of a M getting it from vaginal sex with an infected F is like 1%. I can live with that. (But what about those K girls taking loads all day. Their odds got to be high!
Anyway I was thinking of other STDs that can transmit more easily from infected F - M. Online stats seem to show much higher, like 60% for chlamydia / gonorrhea / syphilis!
Does anyone have any information or experience as to playing these percentages?I can't give you reliable statistics about but I can say that my ex wife worked in an AMP for 14 years mostly before our marriage and did BBBJ with all who wanted it and BBFS with most. Over that time period she contracted about every STD you could think of except HIV and HVC both oral and vaginal.
Genuine question.
Is anyone scared of getting any STDS or even possibly HIV from doing BBFS from these escorts or is that unheard of?
Will an escort give you for example HIV and not care? I see lots of posts on this Baltimore saying BBFS this and that.
Just want some feedback or experiences.
Thanks!
Trust Lust
03-11-21, 19:19
I've always gone BBBJFS with my dates since November 1991. I demand the most pleasure for my money; that's all there is to it. Not only that, as soon as I finished using up my testosterone in 1996, I was to be made into a steer. On top of all of this, I've wasted a lot of money having my blood thoroughly tested and screened every year. Nothing has ever come up as of not rubbering up. Until 1996 I did, however, stress out a lot over CPS coming to knock on my door about kids I may have been the cause of. Maybe once, I caught strep throat from a working girl, but I had plenty of animal penicillin to pump into my thighs for it. Taking a long Q- tip and painting the infected area with iodine gets the job done tool.
As I've mentioned, jacking off would be more fulfilling than covered service. The money I save can go towards gourmet food etc. I may use a condom on the first date, but that's about it. I've always mixed a little bit of Clorox with water and washed my dick off with it every time I date. I also flush my "pisser" with a syringe full of the same solution. I've never caught anything off 150+ street walker dates since the last part of 1991, as of this practice. Some may be whining about the hassle, and I agree inasmuch as rubbering up is all the more so. From a manufacturing / structural standpoint, all condoms leak, so I follow the same debridement when I consent to rubbering up.
OnTheRoad2019
03-12-21, 19:25
I had a great time with a dancer at the silver cricket today. Unfortunately the condom fucking broke. I've never done this before and I'm kinda freaking the fuck out. I guess the only positive is the girl got REALLY fucking pissed. So I'm thinking bb is not a thing for her.
I immediately scrubbed my johnson with alcohol wipes. Paid her an extra big tip and here I am.
What should I do next?
How many of you that do this bb have caught something? She's young, so at least she hasn't been doing it for years.
Just freaking out here a bit.
Accidents happen, don't freak out. Don't do anything sexual for a month (to protect yourself and your partner) then just go get tested. I recommend Oakland county health department on greenfield. It will literally cost you five dollars. Results will give you peace of mind, and only results will. That's all you can do, don't worry yourself to death.
Also I said wait a month to get tested because it often takes time for STD's to produce a positive accurate result. Getting tested immediately would likely give you a false positive.
It's going to be okay.
I had a great time with a dancer at the silver cricket today. Unfortunately the condom fucking broke. I've never done this before and I'm kinda freaking the fuck out. I guess the only positive is the girl got REALLY fucking pissed. So I'm thinking bb is not a thing for her.
I immediately scrubbed my johnson with alcohol wipes. Paid her an extra big tip and here I am.
What should I do next?
How many of you that do this bb have caught something? She's young, so at least she hasn't been doing it for years.
Just freaking out here a bit.
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