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John Appleseed
06-08-17, 23:00
What's a good brand for latex Condoms? I usually get them from my doctor and not familiar with the brands.
Thanks.Durex is always my go-to brand.
FarFarAway
06-09-17, 00:16
I have a regular sugar baby I've been seeing a couple of months. IDK that we are exclusive, she still has a profile up on SA, and earlier on some bowl brothers suggested it portrayed her as an UTR escort, on the other hand our interactions (not just her words) suggest we have more than a physical relationship. She has told me that she gets tested every 3 months (also something that, unfortunately, suggests she's UTR). She's Russian, 30, and absolutely smoking hot, 10's across the board. Has a regular job, apartment (I did some sleuthing and tracked her down. PM me if you want details).
We were supposed to meet and she tells me at the last minute she awoke w / a cold sore in the middle of her lip. She offered to meet w / nothing oral, I said better safe than sorry, we can reschedule.
My main question at this point is just a reminder of something that may have been beaten to death on this board in the past, but I can't easily find it. Cold sores are HSV of a certain type, yes? Just like genital herpes is HSV of a certain type? I seem to recall that either can be either place. What is the best advice to a sugar daddy on a SB in this condition? Is there transmission risk only while the cold sore is present? Of course it's a virus, its there all the time. Does this mean I should bag this girl all together? I don't want to have a cold sore, and I damn sure don't want genital HSV.
LansingMikey
06-12-17, 12:16
I have a regular sugar baby I've been seeing a couple of months. IDK that we are exclusive, she still has a profile up on SA, and earlier on some bowl brothers suggested it portrayed her as an UTR escort, on the other hand our interactions (not just her words) suggest we have more than a physical relationship. She has told me that she gets tested every 3 months (also something that, unfortunately, suggests she's UTR). She's Russian, 30, and absolutely smoking hot, 10's across the board. Has a regular job, apartment (I did some sleuthing and tracked her down. PM me if you want details).
We were supposed to meet and she tells me at the last minute she awoke w / a cold sore in the middle of her lip. She offered to meet w / nothing oral, I said better safe than sorry, we can reschedule.
My main question at this point is just a reminder of something that may have been beaten to death on this board in the past, but I can't easily find it. Cold sores are HSV of a certain type, yes? Just like genital herpes is HSV of a certain type? I seem to recall that either can be either place. What is the best advice to a sugar daddy on a SB in this condition? Is there transmission risk only while the cold sore is present? Of course it's a virus, its there all the time. Does this mean I should bag this girl all together? I don't want to have a cold sore, and I damn sure don't want genital HSV.Genital herpes are caused by HSV 2 cld sore are caused by HSV 1. Unfortunately genital herpes can also be caused by HSV 1 and she can give it to you through oral even if she isn't having an outbreak the best prevention would be avoid oral during an out real and have her take an antibiotic viral such as valtrax but it's still not a guarantee.
NeedyUnchin
07-06-17, 16:21
Hopefully this is the right place for this.
Just wondering how you mongers with an SO manage STD risk. I am familiar with the basic statistics regarding STD transmission rates. I realize the risk, especially with use of condoms, is very low. Unfortunately it is not zero which really fucking sucks.
I have availed myself mainly of FBSM independents and AMP HEs. I am very tempted to expand my menu of options, but the thought of being caught cheating (by way of giving the Mrs. An STD) really gives me pause. In short, I wish I had the balls you guys seem to have.
I read all these forums about married mongers banging hot escorts and SBs and I'm green with envy. How do you pull it off? My (possibly limiting) belief is that given non-zero risk, it's more a matter of when not if I would be outed.
Is there some other way you come at this? What is your frame? What is your protocol to minimize risk?
John Dough
07-28-17, 17:20
There is now a condom available that has a "skirt" at the base to provide extra protection against skin to skin transmitted diseases like herpes and warts. It is non-latex, so it can be used with any type of lube. It is called the Unique Plus. I couldn't find it on the web site of the Colombian manufacturer, but I think it is the same as the Unique Free, under a different name.
You can buy it here: https://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-plus-brand-new-condoms-best-reviews .
The Colombian manufacturer's website is: http://uniquecondoms.co/ .
Here is a youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm8WFz-b8nM .
It might only fit well on guys with a thicker penis. The material is not stretchy. If it fits loosely, it might make crinkling sounds or slip off. You will have to try it to find out if it works for you. Maybe the guys who aren't thick enough could use a cock ring to hold it on.
Hold up. You want let them suck your dick because their mouths are dirty but you will kiss them? Seems backwards.Allow me to explain since there's confusion.
When I kiss a chick on the lips, it's usually pecks. No tonguing involved. I kiss on the face and neck at times. Thats how my kissing goes. When they give me head, I prefer a condom. I would much rather love it to be bare, but I do have a significant other I am with, so I don't want to infect her with something. Which I'm aware BBBJ might not do that but I just can't chance it man. Getting a bare BJ, and pecks on dry lips are certainly different. Nothing backwards about that. Sorry if you misunderstood that.
My thoughts exactly! She's not a GFE provider if she doesn't offer DFK and BBBJ. There's a difference between DFK and her kissing you on the cheek. What good is a CBJ? Not worth my hard earned pay. I want her to suck my dick, without a layer of latex between her wet lips and my dick.
Mnlookin.I see your point man.
Here's mine though.
If you have a wife, or girlfriend, fiance or whatever, you got to be careful who you do anything bare with. If you were to get something from bare oral, you got some explaining to do to your ole lady. LOL.
Now if you had a few reliable people that you knew was clean then OMG yes, have it down their throats all the way dude. LOL.
But this is backpage and the risk of stds is more common, so I would love to get bare BJ, but unless I know her and know she's not swallowing everyone else cum, I got to put protection on this bad boy. LOL.
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?
LanceFukStrong
08-07-17, 15:17
From what I have noticed for the most part (there are always exceptions) when BB is offered most guys mention it. Not sure on those who actually partake though. I have only seen it listed as if it were offered.
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?
Member #5729
08-07-17, 15:30
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?I think a majority of them will BB and have offered BBFS. Absolutely. I also think if offered, a lot of men will partake be it the small population on these sites or the larger iceberg population not on these sites. I do not believe it gets reported as often as it happens and instead is reported as covered.
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?Hey Kira, many BP play bb. I always bring my own protection because some don't have any or care if you use it. You don't see it talked about much hear but when I travel for work I read reviews in other areas and you would be surprised how many guys talk about BBFS and CIP. A lot of these girls do have substance problems so it is a similar risk to sharing needle's for them.
I think a majority of them will BB and have offered BBFS. Absolutely. I also think if offered, a lot of men will partake be it the small population on these sites or the larger iceberg population not on these sites. I do not believe it gets reported as often as it happens and instead is reported as covered.Agreed 100%.
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?Yes I have been offered BBFS as an up-sale by a small percentage of BP girls. But I consider it just like drinking and driving. - You may get away with it a few times, but sooner or later you are going to get caught! - But I do love BBBJ. I know it makes no sense, but that is just being honest. - Dave.
I think a majority of them will BB and have offered BBFS. Absolutely. I also think if offered, a lot of men will partake be it the small population on these sites or the larger iceberg population not on these sites. I do not believe it gets reported as often as it happens and instead is reported as covered.Many providers, not only those who advertise on backpage but are on these sites, WILL offer BBFS. Don't kid yourself that it's ONLY backpage advertisers. Some providers may offer it to long time regular clients for a variety of reasons; some providers may offer it as an upcharge, as they may do with Greek; and some may do it regularly. Now as for men actually writing that they DID bareback in a review, that a different story. Providers usually DON'T want that fact put in a review for everyone to read. Some men will see that fact that the provider does bare back and stay away for that very reason. But on the other hand, some men will see that provider expecting that same service. And the reason men DON'T report the bare back in reviews may be that some other providers WON'T see men who have had bare back with other providers.
I've had three or four offer BBFS and partook on three of them. Luckily no itchy scratchy issues. I will name two of them if anyone has been around long enough to recognize them they can feedback as well. One was Jamie, the super sexy redhead we all loved for a while. The other way the girl who went by Ryan over in Troy. She used to just jump on with mention of a cover. After two times I stopped going because I knew it was a gamble. The third girl I never got her name, but she offered so I took it. Just my input. Be safe fellas.
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?I had a convo w a friend on the topic, please don't misunderstand my reason for the curiosity. Its not something I am considering at all for any reason, in my personal life or other wise.
If not comfortable posting about this topic in public forum please pm me.
Thank you for all feedback gents!!
Hey Kira, many BP play bb. I always bring my own protection because some don't have any or care if you use it. You don't see it talked about much hear but when I travel for work I read reviews in other areas and you would be surprised how many guys talk about BBFS and CIP. A lot of these girls do have substance problems so it is a similar risk to sharing needle's for them.Hell, I have seen numerous photos of dudes who take photos of their pearl jam oozing out of the providers' snatches. Kinda gross actually, but they seem to wear it like a badge of pride. Like those photos of hunters with the dead deer or elk as he grabs onto its rack! In a few areas, one can see videos and photos galore of encounters. SO, BBFS is obviously occurring rampantly out there and with CIP / creampie. And CIA too.
Many providers, not only those who advertise on backpage but are on these sites, WILL offer BBFS. Don't kid yourself that it's ONLY backpage advertisers. Some providers may offer it to long time regular clients for a variety of reasons; some providers may offer it as an upcharge, as they may do with Greek; and some may do it regularly. Now as for men actually writing that they DID bareback in a review, that a different story. Providers usually DON'T want that fact put in a review for everyone to read. Some men will see that fact that the provider does bare back and stay away for that very reason. But on the other hand, some men will see that provider expecting that same service. And the reason men DON'T report the bare back in reviews may be that some other providers WON'T see men who have had bare back with other providers.All very true and reasoned. One other thing of gal with a regular. They may do it at no upcharge knowing that if a guy DOES do that, he prefers and likes it that way and she will get him to keep coming back for more and more as it feels better / more wanted by the dude, rather than go elsewhere to seek same. Dangerous stuff.
Oh, that may be ANOTHER reason. DANGER / RISK.
All others perspectives or speculations are also very good reasoned points, such as same risk as needle. Problem is, they may know they have hepatitis C or other issue and in no way care to protect any person they come in contact with.
I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?Many have provided input to you, no one asked why you are asking. Someone pushing you for that? Or cannot say.
To Thine Own Self Be True. Screw every one else's thoughts or agendas of what you should do, or what THEY want you to do or do to you. You are in the driver's seat.
Also, condoms break and when that happens, I would say guys will normally just keep going at that point unless the girl knows and pins her legs together causing the guy to squirt out like shit through a goose! The problem is, it feels SOOOO good to a man. If you only knew. Sex BB is like sex, Sex with a cover is not like sex, but an effort or more like work to try to feel good and try to be pleased with it and THAT is part of why BBBJ is a great alternative for guys. Quite safer for both and an extremely great feeling if done right, vs. A layer of latex and the issues that causes.
I've had three or four offer BBFS and partook on three of them. Luckily no itchy scratchy issues. I will name two of them if anyone has been around long enough to recognize them they can feedback as well. One was Jamie, the super sexy redhead we all loved for a while. The other way the girl who went by Ryan over in Troy. She used to just jump on with mention of a cover. After two times I stopped going because I knew it was a gamble. The third girl I never got her name, but she offered so I took it. Just my input. Be safe fellas.Thank you so much for your openness and honesty. Why did you partake with the ladies you did bb with? Was just those particular ladies or was it bc someone offered it (didn't really matter who it was) ??
All very true and reasoned. One other thing of gal with a regular. They may do it at no upcharge knowing that if a guy DOES do that, he prefers and likes it that way and she will get him to keep coming back for more and more as it feels better / more wanted by the dude, rather than go elsewhere to seek same. Dangerous stuff.
Oh, that may be ANOTHER reason. DANGER / RISK.
All others perspectives or speculations are also very good reasoned points, such as same risk as needle. Problem is, they may know they have hepatitis C or other issue and in no way care to protect any person they come in contact with.I recall reading about a girl either on this site or the other one maybe a year ago not sure when who kept getting reviewed with BBFS in them and when someone asked her about she talked about how she just wanted to get pregnant even if it was by one of us.
Knucklebuck
08-09-17, 09:55
Thank you so much for your openness and honesty. Why did you partake with the ladies you did bb with? Was just those particular ladies or was it bc someone offered it (didn't really matter who it was) ??I have only recently been engaging in BBFS with very high risk providers. For me it is the escalation of my sex addiction and the thrill of the risk.
Not something I would brag about.
I have only recently been engaging in BBFS with very high risk providers. For me it is the escalation of my sex addiction and the thrill of the risk.
Not something I would brag about.But you do see that it is risky. That's a start. Do you get tested? Do you go to S. A. A?
If a girl shows obvious signs of H candy, and you suck face or get a BBBJ, any issues to follow? Searched the net w/o answer. I'm sure there is some risk, not sure how big.
Thanks
Mike Yepthatsm
08-10-17, 15:35
Risk with BBBJ is small, but not 0, if worried about getting Hepatitis or HIV. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea can also be spread via BBBJ.
If a girl shows obvious signs of H candy, and you suck face or get a BBBJ, any issues to follow? Searched the net w/o answer. I'm sure there is some risk, not sure how big.
Thanks
BadBoyFourU
08-10-17, 16:16
If a girl shows obvious signs of H candy, and you suck face or get a BBBJ, any issues to follow? Searched the net w/o answer. I'm sure there is some risk, not sure how big.
ThanksNot sure where you searched but when in doubt go to the place that keeps such records. https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm.
As been stated for HIV the risk is very low, other more common types are much higher.
Okay, I guess what I meant was: If someone is on H, does that give the receiving BBBJ partner any other H related problems?
I understand there are some risks with BBBJ, but is there other 'issues' or is it 'worse' if someone is on that H?
Not sure where you searched but when in doubt go to the place that keeps such records. https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm.
As been stated for HIV the risk is very low, other more common types are much higher.
ChipCharger
08-11-17, 12:29
Not sure where you searched but when in doubt go to the place that keeps such records. https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm.
As been stated for HIV the risk is very low, other more common types are much higher.Ton's of good stuff out there. Lot's of BP providers shoot up. Not clear how many share needles but not sure I'd want to be infected by one. This forum helps weed out some but not all users.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/heroin/why-are-heroin-users-special-risk-contracting-hivaids-hepatitis-b-c
Mike Yepthatsm
08-11-17, 18:03
Well if they are using a needle to inject herion, especially needles that aren't new, they are at increased risk for hepatitis and HIV. If you are getting a BBBJ then you are exposing yourself to that risk. Again that risk may be low, but not zero.
Okay, I guess what I meant was: If someone is on H, does that give the receiving BBBJ partner any other H related problems?
I understand there are some risks with BBBJ, but is there other 'issues' or is it 'worse' if someone is on that H?
MidMichGeezer
08-12-17, 10:22
Well said, VisaGod! General society has a warped notion about what this is all about. And the newest puritan crusaders want to relabel everything sexual and commercial as "human trafficking. " What self-serving BS. A more accurate, legitimate and humane label might be "Sex Therapy. " I wish they could walk a mile in my or your shoes!
I'd be the very first person to want to jail those who would exploit children or use force against anyone for sex--or for anything else for that matter. But why a government thinks it has a right to interfere in a private exchange between two willing adults is beyond me. Big Brother should mind it's own damn business, and perhaps recall the days when their pious laws forbade interracial marriage, and homosexuality. Yeah, how enlightened was that?!If JVisaGod finds an attractive woman and has sex with her, the government doesn't give a shit. But if JVisaGod finds an attractive woman and pays her to have sex with her, now the government cares. Because of the money factor. It has and always will be about the money and nothing but the money.
Chad Adler
08-12-17, 10:37
Okay, I guess what I meant was: If someone is on H, does that give the receiving BBBJ partner any other H related problems?
I understand there are some risks with BBBJ, but is there other 'issues' or is it 'worse' if someone is on that H?
Well if they are using a needle to inject herion, especially needles that aren't new, they are at increased risk for hepatitis and HIV. If you are getting a BBBJ then you are exposing yourself to that risk. Again that risk may be low, but not zero.If you read legitimate in depth studies on disease transmission and not just websites telling you about the importance of safe sex, you'll find that the possibility of contracting an STI (besides herpes) by recieving oral sex is negligible if not zero. Because HIV has to actually enter the bloodstream, recieving anal sex from an infected male, sharing needles, and blood transfusions are probably the only way anyone who wasn't born with it has ever contracted the virus. People claiming otherwise are likely unwilling to admit drug use or having had gay sex. I am so certain of this that if any of you knows and attractive HIV infected woman who is interested in giving me a free BJ every day for a month in the name of science, I would be willing to participate in that study and publish the results here.
But I believe the original question was whether or not it is possible to contract symptoms of heroin use besides STIs from oral sex. The answer to this is also 'no.' Things like itching and grinding of the teeth are the result of the way the drug interacts with the nervous system. It also causes cravings for sweet foods. This combined with the fact that addicts often neglect oral hygiene is what causes severe tooth decay. There are no communicable side effects of heroin use. If you are not actually putting it into your body, it won't physically affect you.
Thanks to all the mongers who provided advice both here and through pm. Much appreciated.
If you read legitimate in depth studies on disease transmission and not just websites telling you about the importance of safe sex, you'll find that the possibility of contracting an STI (besides herpes) by recieving oral sex is negligible if not zero. Because HIV has to actually enter the bloodstream, recieving anal sex from an infected male, sharing needles, and blood transfusions are probably the only way anyone who wasn't born with it has ever contracted the virus. People claiming otherwise are likely unwilling to admit drug use or having had gay sex. I am so certain of this that if any of you knows and attractive HIV infected woman who is interested in giving me a free BJ every day for a month in the name of science, I would be willing to participate in that study and publish the results here.
But I believe the original question was whether or not it is possible to contract symptoms of heroin use besides STIs from oral sex. The answer to this is also 'no.' Things like itching and grinding of the teeth are the result of the way the drug interacts with the nervous system. It also causes cravings for sweet foods. This combined with the fact that addicts often neglect oral hygiene is what causes severe tooth decay. There are no communicable side effects of heroin use. If you are not actually putting it into your body, it won't physically affect you.
Game Of Thongs
08-14-17, 16:55
Hey mongers,
Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.
Tjinla2001
08-15-17, 12:41
Hey mongers,
Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.If you have to ask if it is safe than you should not be doing it. Of course it is not safe. I don't think getting reassurances from a guy like me who has gotten bareback full service for the last 40 years serves any purpose.
Hey mongers,
Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.Mostly safe but there's always risks, there are now cases of gonorrhea transmitted thru oral sex that is resistant to all antibiotics we have (there is one drug in clinical trials that cures this resistant strain but it could be months / years away) if you think about catching something while getting BBBJ you shouldn't monger at all, you can't worry and have all that in your mind while getting a BBBJ.
Hey mongers,
Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.Writing this from mass (my home state) altho I used to own a house in lasvegas. I caught 2 stds by a backpage girl who gave me a BBBJ. And I didn't even cim. After my date next day when I peed it burned like a motherfucka. Glt tested for free at a clinic down the street from me I caught o believe clamadhia and gonehera. 1 pill killed one std but the other required a shot on my butt I practice billy meier religion so what I'm posting is 100 percent truth.
NewAnonymousName
08-18-17, 07:54
Writing this from mass (my home state) altho I used to own a house in lasvegas. I caught 2 stds by a backpage girl who gave me a BBBJ. And I didn't even cim. After my date next day when I peed it burned like a motherfucka. Glt tested for free at a clinic down the street from me I caught o believe clamadhia and gonehera. 1 pill killed one std but the other required a shot on my butt I practice billy meier religion so what I'm posting is 100 percent truth.I'm not suggesting that bbbjs don't have risk. They do, and you could have caught the burn from a BBBJ. It is very, very unlikely that you caught it from someone who sucked you off the night before. It usually takes about a week after infection for symptoms to arise.
I'm not suggesting that bbbjs don't have risk. They do, and you could have caught the burn from a BBBJ. It is very, very unlikely that you caught it from someone who sucked you off the night before. It usually takes about a week after infection for symptoms to arise.Thanks for the response every time I see a girl pretty much the same thing BJ without a condom kissing and I was wearing condom when I have sex so I caught these two STDs from either BJ or kissing so it doesn't matter if this particular girl gave it to me or somebody else but I know for a fact I got it from one of the girls and I never have unprotected sex so again just trying to pass real information because I'm sick and tired of Googling things and not knowing what to believe but this is a. Great platform where us guys share real information and I love this formun Wicked.
Thanks for the response every time I see a girl pretty much the same thing BJ without a condom kissing and I was wearing condom when I have sex so I caught these two STDs from either BJ or kissing so it doesn't matter if this particular girl gave it to me or somebody else but I know for a fact I got it from one of the girls and I never have unprotected sex so again just trying to pass real information because I'm sick and tired of Googling things and not knowing what to believe but this is a. Great platform where us guys share real information and I love this formun Wicked.I have someone at work who thinks a Canker sore is herpes, now I might be wrong but after googling it I believe that I am right it s not a part of herpes it's more or less an ulcer of the mouth!
I have someone at work who thinks a Canker sore is herpes, now I might be wrong but after googling it I believe that I am right it s not a part of herpes it's more or less an ulcer of the mouth!As far as I know, canker sores are NOT caused by the herpes virus, while cold sores are caused by the herpes virus. If I remember correctly, cankers sores occur inside the mouth, while cold sores occur outside the mouth.
JoeDick2012
08-22-17, 03:34
As far as I know, canker sores are NOT caused by the herpes virus, while cold sores are caused by the herpes virus. If I remember correctly, cankers sores occur inside the mouth, while cold sores occur outside the mouth.HSV-1 is the mouth type, but can also be transferred to the genitals. HSV-2 is genital herpes. Both very contageous.
Aviator1958
09-08-17, 00:02
HSV-1 is the mouth type, but can also be transferred to the genitals. HSV-2 is genital herpes. Both very contageous.Asked my doctor about this a few months ago. He said the only way you can transmit the HPV is if you yourself are having an episode when you have sex with the girl. So if you have sex when not having the symptoms, you're not spreading it to your partner. Just what my doctor mentioned to me when I asked.
A.
Asked my doctor about this a few months ago. He said the only way you can transmit the HPV is if you yourself are having an episode when you have sex with the girl. So if you have sex when not having the symptoms, you're not spreading it to your partner. Just what my doctor mentioned to me when I asked.
A.Untrue! Herpes virus can shed even when there are no symptoms-its just more likely if symptoms are present. Sophisticated culture studies at the University of Washington showed virus shed sometimes even in asymptomatic HSV1 carriers. Your best bet is to take Valtrex to suppress the virus but even that is no guarantee against transmission if contact is BB. Valtrex PLUS condom is the recommended prescription against infecting a partner.
Untrue! Herpes virus can shed even when there are no symptoms-its just more likely if symptoms are present. Sophisticated culture studies at the University of Washington showed virus shed sometimes even in asymptomatic HSV1 carriers. Your best bet is to take Valtrex to suppress the virus but even that is no guarantee against transmission if contact is BB. Valtrex PLUS condom is the recommended prescription against infecting a partner.That's interesting information. Are you a doctor or in the medical field?
PrettySheep
09-20-17, 16:02
The topic here is getting fired up, I just love reading your discussion. Very informative.
So I have been in the hobby for about 4 years now. Not quite as active now because Florida had better selection than Virginia does (where I am now). I have always practiced safe sex have never done BBFS but have had my share of BBBJ's. Always have done research to find the legit girls. Throughout the years I never have had any issues with STI or STD. But I guess it was bound to happen. Looks like I might have contracted HPV, and from my research I have HPV 6 or 11. The warts I have pretty much look like skin tags. No pain, not spreading. And HPV not to be confused with HSV, totally different things. At least that's my understanding from research. I've read that the body can get rid of the warts in it's own over a period of 3 months. I guess I'm looking for advice on what course of action I need to take to find a remedy. And no I have not visited a physician just yet. Here's the plot twist. I have a SO and I am AD Military. If anyone on here is AD Mil, Will the physician I visit require me to disclose this info to my SO if I visit clinic on base? And what is the treatment for HPV?? Again. HPV 6 or 11 not the other types. And what are some alternative cost free clinics I can visit?? I have done research and I can only think of the planned Parenthood for testing and possible treatment at a reduced cost or free. Thanks fellas. Much help needed and very appreciated.
John Dough
09-28-17, 15:45
Looks like I might have contracted HPV, The warts I have pretty much look like skin tags. No pain, not spreading. And HPV not to be confused with HSV, totally different things. I've read that the body can get rid of the warts in it's own over a period of 3 months. I guess I'm looking for advice on what course of action I need to take to find a remedy.HPV and HSV are both caused by a virus. There are some natural antiviral supplements you could try. Monolaurin from coconut oil is supposed to have antiviral activity. The most concentrated and highest dosage available is a product called Lauricidin. It is totally safe. A more controversial supplement is BHT, a food preservative available in capsules. I don't know if it's safe. Some people claim to have cured themselves of viral infections like hepatitis by using it.
You could also try placing tiny drops of chlorine bleach on the warts. I did this on the bottom of my foot. It worked and didn't hurt. In your case it is in a more sensitive location, so it will probably hurt. The trick is to get the drops very small so they don't touch the surrounding skin. Maybe try dipping a pointy object like a toothpick into the bleach.
Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.
In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.
The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.
The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.
Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.
Hear, hear!
I'd say Amon can offer some direction on who to contact. For me, however, it would be who NOT to contact! LOL.
Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.
In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.
The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.
The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.
Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.
CoJones123
10-16-17, 18:26
What risks are reasonably possible with a hand job?
Hand job only with or without oils.
FarFarAway
10-18-17, 13:44
There is a lot of media discussion about HPV levels in the US population right now. It says that 1 in 9 of us guys have oral HPV, presumably by DATY, though in point of fact, rates are higher among men who have sex with men. Anyway, a question is what we can do about this. Young people these days are being offered vaccines for HPV, Gardasil and another brand name. They are only recommended in the US up to 26 years of age. So, if you limit your partners to young women who had the shot, you should be fine. LOL. I wondered about other countries, and found out this about Canada, in a Canadian health magazine:
* didn't even consider getting the vaccine until he contracted genital warts. He says: "I first considered the vaccine out of fear. The genital warts were a nuisance and having them frozen off over a period of months was physically uncomfortable. It was a condition and treatment that I'd never want to experience again. ".
Even though Gardasil does not protect against HPV strains already contracted, it does against others, so * went through with his vaccination. He recently received his third and final dose and says that to him, prevention is paramount. "I see myself as equally responsible for the safety and well-being of my partners," he says. "The peace of mind alone is worth the cost and hassle. ".
Despite being 30-years-old. Over the recommended maximum age of 26 for men, * experienced no problems in getting his prescription. According to Dr. * since the Gardasil vaccine has now been approved for use in women up to age 45, it makes sense to do the same for men.
So, maybe us geezers can head north of the border and get it.
LightYagami
10-18-17, 17:22
Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.
In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.
The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.
The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.
Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.It is not the same risk, BBBJ and BBFS, and I encourage everyone that has questions to do research and consult with your doctor.
It is not the same risk, BBBJ and BBFS, and I encourage everyone that has questions to do research and consult with your doctor.
According to the CDC it is.
https://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Adolescent-Health-Care/Addressing-Health-Risks-of-Noncoital-Sexual-Activity?IsMobileSet=true
The Hobby has risks. Do your own research and determine your own risk assessment.
If you think you can't get infected by oral, you are wrong. It has happened to me twice in 30 years. Is it a risk that I am willing to take, yes.
I mainly posted what I did to try to make people do the research. Too many people go on hearsay. I do not. Both times that I got chlamydia I had open discussions with my doctor. The conclusion from both discussions was oral and vaginal sex have the same risks.
LightYagami
10-22-17, 22:08
According to the CDC it is.
https://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Adolescent-Health-Care/Addressing-Health-Risks-of-Noncoital-Sexual-Activity?IsMobileSet=true
The Hobby has risks. Do your own research and determine your own risk assessment.
If you think you can't get infected by oral, you are wrong. It has happened to me twice in 30 years. Is it a risk that I am willing to take, yes.
I mainly posted what I did to try to make people do the research. Too many people go on hearsay. I do not. Both times that I got chlamydia I had open discussions with my doctor. The conclusion from both discussions was oral and vaginal sex have the same risks.Did you read this article? Because the closest statement they make to a conclusion is the exact opposite of what you are saying. Nowhere in this article do they mention what you have said.
"The role of noncoital sexual activity in the transmission of other nonviral infections, such as vulvovaginal candidiasis, bacterial vaginosis, and trichomoniasis, remains unclear (10). ".
I had Hpv a few years ago. The easiest way to check your self. Is to spray Vinegar all over your junk and balls. Warts turn white when exposed to vinegar. (takes a few minutes to turn white).
If you do, nor fret they are incredibly easy to get rid of.
Now the way I did it was use abit of oil and cover the unexposed area with patrolium jelly. Now take a clove of garlic and cut a slice that fits over the region that has Hpv. Tape the garlic to it with sports tape. Change a few times a few. The wart will turn black and fall off. You will have a scab where it was. Takes about 2 weeks to heal. I spray vinegar after every incounter now. No reinfection. I also spray alittle up my urthrea (it's not bad) after every encounter.
I swear by it, started doing it a few years ago and no std's yet.
Out of well over 100+ encounteres BBFS BBBJ past year, still Clean. (I get myself checked every four months).
There must be something to it.
Cephlapod Love
12-04-17, 18:57
The problem is, it feels SOOOO good to a man. If you only knew. Sex BB is like sex, Sex with a cover is not like sex, but an effort or more like work to try to feel good and try to be pleased with it and THAT is part of why BBBJ is a great alternative for guys. Quite safer for both and an extremely great feeling if done right, vs. A layer of latex and the issues that causes.
I have found that the THICKNESS of a condom, the material it is constructed of and the size make a HUGE difference in the way covered sex feels! Oh sure, I use to be unknowledgeable about this and would just grab whatever condom was cheapest or whatever the girl provided. And yeah, as OP pointed out it was often an unpleasant experience playing with the wrong condom.
But who ever heard of thicknesses of condoms? Can't say I had ever heard it discussed much. Then one day I found a website that sold condoms and had tons of educational material. I discovered that the standard condom was 0. 070 mm thick. OK cool, whatever that means. But then I discovered that there were "thin" condoms that are 0. 055 MM thick and 0. 045 mm thick! I bought a bunch of these and YES! They made a difference!
In fact, recently had an experience with a FWB. I visited her twice in a week. First time I used the "thin" ones (0. 045 mm) and had an OK date. The second time, I brought a thin one (0. 045 mm) and a Magnum (0. 080 mm). Tossed the covers on the night stand and when it came time she suited me up. It was a terrible date as the sensation wasn't there and I didn't pop. As I left and picked up the unused condom I noted that it was the Magnum that had been used. So it was that extra thickness that lead to the lack of feeling for me. (she had a great time).
You can see the thicknesses of standard condoms here:
http://kimono-condoms.com/condom-size
Look at the ribbed condoms. Some are as thick as 0. 121 mm! WOW. Pleasure for her, a HUGE buffer for the dude!
But the story doesn't end there! A friend from overseas pointed out that I was living in the past and the world has evolved! The standard "thinnest" condoms out there are now 0. 020 mm thick! That is half the thickness of the "standard" Thin condoms and WAY thinner than the average, 0. 070 mm. So look for the 002 condoms as they are marketed. I think the original ones are SAGAMI ORIGINALs. These are Japanese manufactured condoms that you have to buy overseas or off of ebay as I have never seen them in USA stores nor at most USA online condom retailers. Oh and technology marches on, there are now condoms that are 0. 018 mm thick. But can anyone feel the difference between 0. 020 and 0. 18 mm? The cost of the 0. 018 mm ones are like 3 times as expensive.
Now all of that said, YMMV. Had a buddy who used "whatever" condoms and one day I gave him a bunch of the 0. 055 mm thin ones to use with a FB on a trip. He reported he couldn't tell the difference. But for me I sure CAN tell the difference! The thinner the condom the better!
Also a consideration is the material that condoms are made of. Oh sure for years there have been lamb skin condoms as it was felt that they had better heat transfer. But the standard condom is constructed with latex. Not so good for those with allergies or those who want heat transfer. So the new "world's thinnest" condoms are made of polyurethane which transfers heat much better. So material does matter.
The final comment is about the size of a condom. If one does research they will see that condoms vary in length and diameter. How this matters is if one gets a condom that fits too tight it can deaden the sensations. So remember, if one is average or larger, then the original size of a Japanese condom might be a bit snug. (apparently the average Japanese dude is smaller) They do make a larger version of the Sagami's however.
I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?
Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?
A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?
Just curious.
Thank you.
Barry.
I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?
Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?
A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?
Just curious.
Thank you.
Barry.Don't be a fool. And never believe a girl that tells you ONLY YOU.
I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?
Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?
A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?
Just curious.
Thank you.
Barry.DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT think about doing that. When it comes to paying for sex, you're pretty much playing a game of Russian roulette. Most of these girls have something or are going to catch something at some point.
It will never be worth the risk. I can tell by the question itself you're somewhat young, but back in the 90's there were HIV prevention ads that said stuff about not going by "she LOOKS clean. ".
Are you seriously going to believe her?
As they say on ESPN. Come on man.
Yes, she makes you feel like its all about you.
That's part of her charm. But, in reality you ain't the only one. She says is to all of us.
Don't be a fool. And never believe a girl that tells you ONLY YOU.
Cephlapod Love
12-06-17, 11:39
I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?
Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?
A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?
Just curious.
Thank you.
Barry."safety" is all about risk. How one perceives risk and what levels of risk on is willing to take.
Problem is that humans are inherently terrible at perceiving risk, understanding it ad managing it. Oh sure, we are smart enough not to walk into a cage with a hungry lion, but other things that are less concrete and more abstract we all perceive risk differently.
Even now with the politicization of science, many now distrust facts and think they are rhetoric. Also human emotion what it is, we have evolved to a place where we feel we have to be "right" all of the time and take a position and be unmovable on it, even on line (where we could rightly learn something).
So how one perceives risk and what level of risk one wants to take and how one manages that risk are all factors. It isn't one simple answer.
On one of these threads is some detailed scientific information on the rates of transmission of each STD from one partner to another. Rates are relatively low overall for female to male transmission. Also, the condition of one's penis matters too: the skin is a nice barrier- but if the skin is compromised in some way (cut, sore, opening, rash, chaffed, etc) it can lead to higher transmission. Also anal sex is a significant level of higher risk. Then the likelihood of a girl having something to catch is key too.
Oh, I know, back in the 80's when HIV / AIDS was discovered there was a huge campaign to "educate" the public. Unfortunately that education, based on old information (like a brick telephone) is out dated. But many stick to that rhetoric as if it were fact and religion. But the fact is that less than 2% of the population is living with HIV. Drill into the numbers and 60% of those are men who have sex with men. Drill further and one will see that the rate of white women living with HIV is less than 2-tenths of a percent, <0. 2%. The rate for Asian women is even less.
Also know that there is nothing out there today that will kill you, especially since everyone has Obamacare.
As far as AMP girls go. I am reminded of the common knowledge / advice given to dudes visiting Thailand. If you are going to go with a girl, choose a go-go or beer bar girl as those establishments make sure the girls are checked and medically cleared. The "freelancers" or SWers may not have been checked and thus have a higher risk.
So if you are scared of "one time" being all it takes to catch an STD, then stay out of the hobby and be monogamous (100% safe) or use condoms 100% of the time with a known, tested-clean girl! If one is willing to accept some risk. Do some research & find out the transmission rates, things one can do to lower risk and make a rational decision, not an emotional one.
With the new thinner condoms, many of the issues of why dudes don't like them may be gone. So give them a try.
Cephlapod Love
12-06-17, 12:14
Just read the replies to the ordinal message (after I had replied).
Yeah, I see where they are coming from. Sure a girl can tell ten guys that he is the only one she is having BB sex with. The reason they do that is that most guys won't date a girl who offers BB sex as they perceive it as too risky. But I have found, when pressed and questioned appropriately (non accusatorily) that many girls will report how many dudes they offer bb sex too. I have observed that is often just a few and not large numbers and usually only the married guys that see them regularly (at least weekly). But hey, I believe most people are inherently truthful and when given an "out" to avoid PC backlash will be honest. That said, add addiction into the mix and throw that idea in the waste bin. Also found that those who have no compunction about lying them selves usually don't trust anyone.
But yeah, back in the 80's or 90's when the mass HIV public "education" was going on, there was a lot of rhetoric. Things like sleeping with someone means you are sleeping with everyone they slept with in the last 10-years. Yeah, I get that concept and understand why it was used (fear factor), but let me ask this - does someone getting tested for a full panel of STDs break that chain? If someone tests clean, then they did't get anything from all those people from the last 10 years!
And then there is the "she looks clean" stuff. Yes that is a good point. No one an tell by just looking. But that was a scare tactic to push HIV infection into the "unknown" and thus play with the normal psyche and mess with our abilities to process rationally the facts. The point is that TESTING proves a girl is clean. Most all test sites will provide paperwork proof.
Oh and then there is the myth, from old technology (think brick cell phones) that a person isn't clean until they have two clean test results 3-month apart. Problem is that is based on the old technology of HIV testing that looks for antibodies to the virus. Yes, in SOME people it might take as long as 3-month for their body to create antibodies to the HIV virus. But new technology exists (think tablets & smart phones) that can detect the actual virus as soon as 10-days time! So yeah, if one wants to be assured they are clean, make sure you are using the antigen test (new technology).
Also, let's think rationally about the science. If a girl has sex with an HIV+ dude (Guy1) on Day 1 and does indeed get the virus, at what date has the virus replicated enough, so that there is a high enough "load" of HIV in her system such that it CAN be transmitted to Guy2? If modern science (antigen testing) can't detect it until 10-days, is the load large enough to be transmitted?
The CDC has a new tool out there one can use to evaluate risk of HIV infection.
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/
Use it to get knowledgeable on the topic!
I know for me that fear comes from a lack of knowledge. Once I understood the facts of risk, transmission and prevalence of STDs I was better able to manage my risk on a rational rather than emotional basis. While fear is a good thing and a way to avoid stepping into the lion cage, it didn't need to cloud my judgement.
Remember condoms are a tried and true method of being protective and reducing risk. If condoms don't work for you, perhaps you are using the wrong ones?
Cephlapod Love
12-06-17, 12:35
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/estimator.html#-sb.
Great information.
I know that I am safe and my risk is minimal. I would never think that I would be this woman's "only" but I trust her to know risk and we discussed it at length.
Having the information to make an informed decision is key!
Thanks again for a very thoughtful response. I appreciate it!
Barry.
"safety" is all about risk. How one perceives risk and what levels of risk on is willing to take.
Problem is that humans are inherently terrible at perceiving risk, understanding it ad managing it. Oh sure, we are smart enough not to walk into a cage with a hungry lion, but other things that are less concrete and more abstract we all perceive risk differently.
Even now with the politicization of science, many now distrust facts and think they are rhetoric. Also human emotion what it is, we have evolved to a place where we feel we have to be "right" all of the time and take a position and be unmovable on it, even on line (where we could rightly learn something).
So how one perceives risk and what level of risk one wants to take and how one manages that risk are all factors. It isn't one simple answer.
On one of these threads is some detailed scientific information on the rates of transmission of each STD from one partner to another. Rates are relatively low overall for female to male transmission. Also, the condition of one's penis matters too: the skin is a nice barrier- but if the skin is compromised in some way (cut, sore, opening, rash, chaffed, etc) it can lead to higher transmission. Also anal sex is a significant level of higher risk. Then the likelihood of a girl having something to catch is key too..
John Dough
12-06-17, 23:54
I have found that the THICKNESS of a condom, the material it is constructed of and the size make a HUGE difference in the way covered sex feels! Here is some more info on thin condoms:
https://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest-condoms/thinnest-condoms
For latex condoms, new size options are available:
https://myonecondoms.com/
The female condom has many advantages:
https://fc2.us.com/
Latex free, can use any type of lube. One size fits all. The man feels friction, not just heat and pressure. Feels like bareback for the man. More skin covered, for better safety. The woman inserts it in advance, so there is no fumbling when ready for penetration. Switching partners in a threesome doesn't require a condom change. Negatives are higher price, harder to use and extra lube required on man's side.
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask but I figure I'd get more honest answers here than over at TNA. So admin / mod please delete if this is inappropriate.
Would you guys BBFS a provider you suspected of being an IV drug user? No judgement, just opinions on why or why not or the thought process behind it.
I guess the risk profile would depend on whether she shares needles, shares dope or BBFS other hobbyists. And I guess we are dealing with HIV and / or other STDs.
Thanks!
P.S.: this is NOT regarding a particular provider but just in general.
JakeDSnake
12-11-17, 22:17
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask but I figure I'd get more honest answers here than over at TNA. So admin / mod please delete if this is inappropriate.
Would you guys BBFS a provider you suspected of being an IV drug user? No judgement, just opinions on why or why not or the thought process behind it.
I guess the risk profile would depend on whether she shares needles, shares dope or BBFS other hobbyists. And I guess we are dealing with HIV and / or other STDs.
Thanks!
P.S.: this is NOT regarding a particular provider but just in general.I don't recommend BBFS with iv drug users. The percentage of needle sharing is high and can lead to one acquiring Hepatitis and HIV, etc. Always insist on having the lights turned on, preferably all to shine the light on not just iv track marks but also any lesions that are suspicious for HSV, granuloma, condylomata, vaginal discharge, etc. Stay safe A.
Thebitmaster
12-12-17, 13:54
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask but I figure I'd get more honest answers here than over at TNA. So admin / mod please delete if this is inappropriate.
Would you guys BBFS a provider you suspected of being an IV drug user? No judgement, just opinions on why or why not or the thought process behind it.
I guess the risk profile would depend on whether she shares needles, shares dope or BBFS other hobbyists. And I guess we are dealing with HIV and / or other STDs.
Thanks!
P.S.: this is NOT regarding a particular provider but just in general.The risk of female to male transmission for HIV is very low, however, IV users have a much higher incidence of HIV and Hep. It can't be worth worrying for the next 8 weeks about what she may have given you, all for a few minutes of feeling a raw pussy.
I have been a BBFS fan, but always try to make sure that they are not IV users. It just adds a whole new lever of risk for things other than HIV.
BuckNaked123
12-12-17, 16:38
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask but I figure I'd get more honest answers here than over at TNA. So admin / mod please delete if this is inappropriate.
Would you guys BBFS a provider you suspected of being an IV drug user? No judgement, just opinions on why or why not or the thought process behind it.
I guess the risk profile would depend on whether she shares needles, shares dope or BBFS other hobbyists. And I guess we are dealing with HIV and / or other STDs.
Thanks!
P.S.: this is NOT regarding a particular provider but just in general.I don't BBFS with a provider that doesn't look clean or if they have evidence of drug use. Just not worth it if you know they are extra high risk. For example, saw missmargaret on TNA.
https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?339342-missmargaret
After initial assessment of her place being a dive, marks on her arms, and general feel of who she was I chose to use a rubber even though she wanted BBFS. I am glad I did and walked away without the dirty feeling you sometimes get with a bad encounter.
After fucking her and getting a better look, she seemed clean enough as her vag had no smell and the marks on her arms were probably from razor blades from failed suicide attempts as opposed to drug needles. She may be an ok candidate for BBFS but I don't think I will return. For those who might be interested, she really likes it rough. Choke her with your cock and pile drive her. She can take it.
Cephlapod Love
12-13-17, 18:26
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask but I figure I'd get more honest answers here than over at TNA. So admin / mod please delete if this is inappropriate.
Would you guys BBFS a provider you suspected of being an IV drug user? No judgement, just opinions on why or why not or the thought process behind it.
I guess the risk profile would depend on whether she shares needles, shares dope or BBFS other hobbyists. And I guess we are dealing with HIV and / or other STDs.
Thanks!
P.S.: this is NOT regarding a particular provider but just in general.
Sigh, the below replies are not surprising, as before I did much research and started asking health care professionals to verify my findings, I though the same thing.
First, everyone assumes that needle sharing is rampant. It "could" be. But before assuming that, check and see if your state or local government permits / has needle exchange programs. I know in my state there are needle exchange programs and all of the girls that have a need know what day and time those exchanges are open and most head there. Just because one is addicted, doesn't mean that they are stupid or have a death wish. Most girls know about HIV and that it "can be" spread by sharing needles, so most have changed their behaviors and DO NOT share needles.
Second, look at your state's Annual HIV / AIDS Surveillance Report. There one should see tables or charts of causes of HIV transmission: (see attached table).
The table shows that the risk of People Who Inject Drugs (PWID) of transmission is relatively low. I attached Philly's info as it was the fastest I could get to but each state is required to provide to the CDC and also publish an annual HIV / AIDS report, so specific info for your area should be available. Table shows that of NEW cases each year, the method of transmission of HIV was 11% (2012) and now has dropped in half (2016). And with the transmission risk being 5. 5% relatively low (one-tenth), especially compared to Men who have sex with men 56%! So to assume all IV drug users are transmitting HIV rapidly is old school thinking and not supported by recent data.
Next let me comment on having to wait 8 weeks to detect HIV. Again this was true in the 1990's when awareness started and the technology that existed was antibody tests. But technology moves on and there are now antigen tests that can detect fragments of HIV as soon as 10 days. Some test sites use a combination of antigen / antibody tests, so IF timing is important to you, then seek out a site that includes antigen testing.
Yes, the risk of transmission of HIV from female to males is very low, see the chart here:
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/estimator.html
Point being that the skin was designed as a decent barrier and HIV needs to "get inside" in order to replicate and cause AIDS. If your junk is free of cuts, scarps, rashes, rubbed / raw, chaffed skin then F2M transmission should be very low!
OP have postulated that one should examine a girl for track marks, etc. No one can "tell" if a girl is clean just by looking! Addicts are great at hiding their addictions: inject them selves in hidden places you wouldn't think to look. But also, can a lay person with little or no technical training tell the difference between a skin tag and genital warts or some other sign of infection?
The point is that you need to ASK a girl her status and study her reaction as she provides it. I think most people are truthful about such things. It takes a pretty callous person to knowingly have an STD and agree to BBFS and infect another.
But the question was about IV Drug Users. The problem with addicts isn't needle sharing, it is the ADDICTION! When one is Jonesing they NEED a fix, most will do just about anything to get that fix. SO therein lies the risk. They will have sex with anyone to get the fix. So if a girl is desperate and Jonesing when you see her, she probably will lie, in order to get her meds. But I have seen high functioning addicts who aren't on the streets, who plan their days and are able to get the money for their meds before it is a problem. Those girls can choose who to BBFS with and don't have to take anyone who comes along.
Look the bottom line is the BBFS is about RISK how one perceives it, how one manages it. See my discussion of risk here:
#811.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645291&viewfull=1#post3645291.
Some of the above stuff & more was discussed in that post as well:
#812.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645325&viewfull=1#post3645325.
OP gave links to new thinner condoms, which feel better than thick vending machine condoms:
#815.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3646157&viewfull=1#post3646157.
Good Luck!
Cephlapod Love
12-13-17, 20:05
This chart, from the CDC, shows the transmission categories for HIV infection. Those working off of "old information" assume that the rate is high. It was in the 1990's, but with needle exchange programs and education, that form of transmission has dropped to VERY low levels!
Page 6 here:
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pdf/library/slidesets/cdc-hiv-surveillance-persons-who-inject-drugs-2016.pdf
Cephlapod Love
12-13-17, 20:46
So. Who is most likely to have HIV?
What are the most risky populations?
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html
In the whole USA, in ALL of 2016 only 1032 new cases of HIV infection among white women! That versus 4189 cases in Black Women.
Risk associated with dreaming about BBBJ? Are there any, really?Yes Sir there is a ginormous risk with a BBBJ!! See IV drug users are prone to developing canker sores in their mouth which creates opportunity for transmission of HIV and Hepatitis!! So always be careful about who you let do it amd always pay close attention to signs of needle use!!
MTWilliams911
12-16-17, 18:30
Yes Sir there is a ginormous risk with a BBBJ!! See IV drug users are prone to developing canker sores in their mouth which creates opportunity for transmission of HIV and Hepatitis!! So always be careful about who you let do it amd always pay close attention to signs of needle use!!Also herpes hsv-1 and hsv-2. 1 out of 6 in USA have herpes. Most no symptoms. So do have lesions and pain from it.
Yes Sir there is a ginormous risk with a BBBJ!! See IV drug users are prone to developing canker sores in their mouth which creates opportunity for transmission of HIV and Hepatitis!! So always be careful about who you let do it amd always pay close attention to signs of needle use!!Always best to be armed with the facts:
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/decreased_risk/less_risky.html
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/transmit/activities/oral_sex.html
And remember, you guys should be getting tested as often as us ladies, the recommendation being every 3 months. It is the general consensus that one cannot detect an infection any sooner (ie. Texting every month), unless you are experiencing observable symptoms.
Happy Holidays,
Noelle.
So. Who is most likely to have HIV?
What are the most risky populations?
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html
In the whole USA, in ALL of 2016 only 1032 new cases of HIV infection among white women! That versus 4189 cases in Black Women.Thanks for the post. Interesting. I didn't see any statistics for white, Hispanic or other heterosexual contact.
Cephlapod Love
12-17-17, 15:38
Always best to be armed with the facts:
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/decreased_risk/less_risky.html
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/transmit/activities/oral_sex.html
And remember, you guys should be getting tested as often as us ladies, the recommendation being every 3 months. It is the general consensus that one cannot detect an infection any sooner (ie. Texting every month), unless you are experiencing observable symptoms.
Happy Holidays,
Noelle.Thanks for sharing those links / statistics on Oral transmission of HIV! Important information that everyone should read and understand. Too many "myths" out there and people posting opinions that are not supported by the facts.
As far as frequency of testing goes, 3-months should catch everyone, but be aware that antigen / antibody tests run by a laboratory can detect HIV as early as 18 days and maybe as late as 45 days. So getting tested via the lab route ever 2-months would be more protective. (see attached).
But also be aware that if one thinks they may have been exposed to HIV, DO NOT WAIT! Go see a doctor, as within 72- hours there is something like a "morning after pill!" It is called PreP. Prep is a cocktail of anti-retrovirus drugs. Taking a course of these drugs can prevent the HIV from taking hold!
Cephlapod Love
12-17-17, 15:46
Thanks for the post. Interesting. I didn't see any statistics for white, Hispanic or other heterosexual contact.Not sure what you are asking. The last two bars on the bottom of that bar chart are indeed for white and Hispanic women for heterosexual contact.
If you wish to know the risk in your area it is best to look at you state's annual HIV / AIDS Surveillance report. That should have specific statistics on women and race. Tell me what state that is and I'll take a look for you.
Not sure what you are asking. The last two bars on the bottom of that bar chart are indeed for white and Hispanic women for heterosexual contact.
If you wish to know the risk in your area it is best to look at you state's annual HIV / AIDS Surveillance report. That should have specific statistics on women and race. Tell me what state that is and I'll take a look for you.I meant to say that I did not see a category for white male (heterosexual contact).
By the way, I've used https://www.talenttestingservice.com/ in the past and it's pretty easy. There are many draw locations in my area and they overnight the samples down to Southern California. If you're shooting porn, they are one of the labs that you have to go through.
Be safe out there.
Cephlapod Love
12-26-17, 08:09
I meant to say that I did not see a category for white male (heterosexual contact).For me personally, I don't care what is the incident rate of, or how many, heterosexual men are living with an HIV infection because I do not plan on having sex with ANY man! But the number of men who have sex with men (MSM) is shown, but relevant to me only in that it shows that a majority of those living with HIV are MSM.
However, from this chair it would appear that my risk for contracting HIV from a sexual partner IS directly related to the number of women that are living with HIV. Because the statistics presented previously show (on a national basis) how many women of various ethnicities are living with an HIV infection, I can gauge my risk of contracting HIV should I play without the benefit of a condom.
That said, those are CDC numbers on a national basis, for me it makes sense to understand the numbers and ethnicities of women in my area, so I have looked up my state's annual HIV / AIDS incident report. Also, in some of the major metropolitan areas, there are Health Departments that produced their own Annual HIV / AIDS Surveillance Reports, so more site specific information maybe available.
Deciphering one's RISK is a bit tricky- it depends on the number of or percentage of people living with HIV, the rate of transmission of HIV from one person to another, the type of sex one engages in and any protective measures one takes. So in general, the statistics show that the number of white women living with HIV is much less than the number of AA women living with HIV, which is greatly less than the number of MSM living with HIV. So I use those numbers as PART of my evaluation of who to engage as a sexual partner.
All fwiw. Everyone perceives risk differently and evaluates data and information differently. I think it makes sense to look at the facts from credible scientific sources (CDC, State Annual HIV / AIDS Surveillance Report) (which shows how many or the percentages of people, by category, who are living with HIV) as part of my risk evaluation process.
Of course one can pretty much manage their risk to negligible numbers by using a condom with every act of penetrative sex.
BoulderBoy
01-02-18, 17:06
Hey guys,
I'm not looking for any info on AIDs. I have my opinion on that one. I'm wondering how many of you have or have known someone who ended up with a STD wearing a condom. The info I get online is so confusing. It looks like a condom doesn't fully protect against herpes. Is this really true? I don't just mean if it breaks. I'm married and my life would be destroyed if I were to get an STD. Obviously, I'm not one to do anything bareback. I guess I can stick with FBSM and handies. Also, a lot of you are into DATY. Is that not also poor safety?
Cephlapod Love
01-03-18, 12:20
Hey guys,
I'm not looking for any info on AIDs. I have my opinion on that one. I'm wondering how many of you have or have known someone who ended up with a STD wearing a condom. The info I get online is so confusing. It looks like a condom doesn't fully protect against herpes. Is this really true? I don't just mean if it breaks. I'm married and . Obviously, I'm not one to do anything bareback. I guess I can stick with FBSM and handies. Also, a lot of you are into DATY. Is that not also poor safety?First I do not understand how one could be confused by online information? Only look at credible scientific sources like the USA Gubmint Center for Disease Control (CDC). That is their job and IF they get something wrong online, Tonnes of people are jumping on them to get it corrected. But hey, look at opinion sites and pseudo-scientific sites and then perhaps one could get conflicting information. CDC Detailed Fact Sheet:
https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes-detailed.htm
The reason a condom may not be protective with someone who has herpes is that the lesion or sore or shed site might be outside the vagina, in areas that are contacted by one's own pubic area skin. So unless you wear "lap dance pants" and wear a condom, there are parts of a woman's anatomy that "could" be a viral shed site and thus come in contact with your bare / uncovered skin.
But two things I see in you comment:
1) What is your "opinion" on HIV? The way you said that appears as though one does not believe the facts and has a "belief" of something different. I am NOT criticizing that at all, no everyone is entitled to their own beliefs / opinions. But it suggests a low risk tolerance?
2) You are married and scared to death of taking something home.
Look, decisions on how one plays in this hobby are based on one's personal view of "risk". Be that an irrational fear or an view based on facts. I discussed risk perception here (post #811):
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645291&viewfull=1#post3645291.
So I won't repeat that discussion.
Here is one person's view of the situation:
1. You have to talk to your potential partners about any diseases they might have, when they were last tested and what those tests included. If that is too uncomfortable, skip the sex. I believe that most people are inherently honest and truthful (drug addicts excepted) and most will tell you if they have something. Yeah, sure one might not know, so only those who were tested for whatever one is concerned about.
2. These items from the CDC fact sheet seem pertinent:
Generally, a person can only get HSV-2 infection during genital contact with someone who has a genital HSV-2 infection.
In persons with asymptomatic HSV-2 infections, genital HSV shedding occurs on 10.2% of days, compared to 20.1% of days among those with symptomatic infections.
3. Transmission rates are important, most people think, "it only takes one time" which is absolutely true, but it does not mean that one and only one, or a FIRST contact is going to mean successful transmission. Look atteh info in this post by FooteRoger where he has collected the transmission rates for various STDs. He also includes where he got the information.
#734 http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3179369&viewfull=1#post3179369.
He corrected a small error in the HSV numbers here, #737:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3180791&viewfull=1#post3180791.
So that shows a transmission rate of 015% or 1/6700 sex acts for Herpes HSV2. Detailed transmission info is tough to find as it is burried deep in Medical studies in scientific journals that are written in medicaleeze. Apparently the transmission rate for oral transmission F2 M BBBJ is LOW but hard to find and not found.
4. Now this should set off purists and make their heads spin, but immediately AFTER sexual contact wash you junk and / or use some other antiseptic. The point is nothing like that is going to 100% prevent infection, but it CAN reduce the risk.
5. What is one's risk tolerance? That is the starting point. If one thinks the consequences of action A are too high then take actions that avoid the consequences. So if ones " life would be destroyed if I were to get an STD" then what level of risk is one willing to take? Some illicit sexual fun on the side that breaks wedding vows vs a destroyed life? Only you can make this evaluation.
Good luck!
We should all agree on certain terminology to clarify. In Miami, GFE was BBBJ and CFS, and Ultra GFE was BBBJ and BBFS. I like your suggestions, but I feel like "not quite GFE" is a little negative and will cause white knights to show up, or even girls to defend themselves in the USA review board. "Not quite GFE? You didn't say that when we were LFK!" We need more positive terms.I guess I need to revise all my reviews, never have BBFS, too dangerous. I'd agree with BBBJ, DFK and CFS equals GFE for me. You can always PM the reviewer for details.
OO.
Harry Plopper
01-22-18, 18:18
FYI. The condom is more to protect the woman than the guy. Trojan doesn't give a $hit about men, LOL, as with American society in general. We have been fed a line of BS for years and I am tired of it.
https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/stds-you-can-get-while-wearing-a-condom/
I guess I need to revise all my reviews, never have BBFS, too dangerous. I'd agree with BBBJ, DFK and CFS equals GFE for me. You can always PM the reviewer for details.
OO.
Harry Plopper
01-22-18, 18:20
Welcome to the board. I see that you are a newbie. I look forward to seeing some great reviews here! Keep us posted on your covered fun.
When I expetience GFE I run like hell! I've been offered BBFS too many times, and that to me is a red flag. DFK, not for me. GFE is what I'm trying to avoid. No emotional strings. Reciprocal. Otherwise, you're only fooling yourself. To each their own I guess.
FYI. The condom is more to protect the woman than the guy. Trojan doesn't give a $hit about men, LOL, as with American society in general. We have been fed a line of BS for years and I am tired of it.
https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/stds-you-can-get-while-wearing-a-condom/Now I like BBFS as much as the next guy, but it seems like there's a lot of misinformation flying around, and choosing not to use a condom specifically because you think it doesn't protect you isn't a good idea. Definitely, some infections you can get with or without a condom, but the ones that condoms DO protect against are the ones that you should worry about. The ones that are extremely common / dangerous, mainly chlamydia (extremely common and contagious), gonorrhea (extremely common and contagious), and HIV (extremely dangerous). The infections in that list you can get, sure, but you probably won't with / without a rubber: you can be vaccinated for the dangerous strains of HPV, syphilis is pretty rare now (and you'd see a giant, weeping sore which would be a good indicator to stay away), and when was the last time you heard someone contracting lice / molluscum?
I'm not advocating anyone does or doesn't use a rubber, I just think it's good to know all the facts before you decide.
OriginalSin
01-22-18, 22:33
FYI. The condom is more to protect the woman than the guy. Trojan doesn't give a $hit about men, LOL, as with American society in general. We have been fed a line of BS for years and I am tired of it.
https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/stds-you-can-get-while-wearing-a-condom/Finally! Someone who get's it! The only guarantee is abstinence!
Cephlapod Love
01-23-18, 22:05
Now I like BBFS as much as the next guy, but it seems like there's a lot of misinformation flying around, and choosing not to use a condom specifically because you think it doesn't protect you isn't a good idea. Definitely, some infections you can get with or without a condom, but the ones that condoms DO protect against are the ones that you should worry about. The ones that are extremely common / dangerous, mainly chlamydia (extremely common and contagious), gonorrhea (extremely common and contagious), and HIV (extremely dangerous). The infections in that list you can get, sure, but you probably won't with / without a rubber: you can be vaccinated for the dangerous strains of HPV, syphilis is pretty rare now (and you'd see a giant, weeping sore which would be a good indicator to stay away), and when was the last time you heard someone contracting lice / molluscum?
I'm not advocating anyone does or doesn't use a rubber, I just think it's good to know all the facts before you decide.1) I agree not using a condom because it might not protect you from something. Is crazy talk.
2) How is HIV "extremely dangerous?" That is the brain-washing from the 1990's that the government wants everyone to believe so that they can direct and control behavior. The conservatives want to tell you to be only in a monogamous relationship. However, health professions at testing facilities have told me and other health professionals have confirmed that HIV is no longer a death sentence, but now a manageable chronic condition. In fact if one is on anti-retroviral medication viral loads in the body are driven down to the non-detect level. Oh and since everyone has health insurance under ObamaCare, everyone should have access to the medication.
3) Vaccination for HPV is NOT available to anyone over the age of 26. Also, last trip to the County HD for STD testing had a long convo on HPV. Usually in a dude the body naturally clears most HPV infection in a couple of years.
https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine.html Looks like the risk of HPV being a bad player depends on one's number of sexual partners ( 50) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3231998/.
What makes the issue of "safe sex" so difficult is "beliefs" based on myths based on old science or just plain propaganda. This discussion needs to have "opinions" backed up by credible sources.
Cephlapod Love
01-23-18, 22:16
Finally! Someone who get's it! The only guarantee is abstinence!What I got out of that blog post was an indictment of lambskin or natural membrane type of condoms. Yes, those membranes might have pores that are small enough to allow the passage of pathogens.
But it does not say that latex or PVC condoms suffer from that problem! So to extend a conclusion to ALL condoms is a fallacy. If indeed there is credible evidence that PVC or Latex condoms allow the passage of pathogens, then none should post a link to that study, report or data.
Like I have said, too many "opinions" out there, and too much "spin" used to club you into submission of monogamy or whatever their agenda is.
LogJammin18
01-25-18, 14:40
www.myprivatelabs.com. Are a bunch of FUCKING THEIVES
These fuckers stole my money. I sent all the stuff in, paid for it and these bastards never did the work. AVOID AVOID AVOID
2) How is HIV "extremely dangerous?" That is the brain-washing from the 1990's that the government wants everyone to believe so that they can direct and control behavior. The conservatives want to tell you to be only in a monogamous relationship. However, health professions at testing facilities have told me and other health professionals have confirmed that HIV is no longer a death sentence, but now a manageable chronic condition. In fact if one is on anti-retroviral medication viral loads in the body are driven down to the non-detect level. Oh and since everyone has health insurance under ObamaCare, everyone should have access to the medication.
As far as 2: I didn't want to get too far into it, because it's too complicated to get into in just a single bullet point, but I said it was dangerous in that if it is left untreated for long enough you WILL get AIDS, and it WILL be the reason you die. It can also be asymptomatic (or have symptoms of just the flu) for long enough that people may not think to get tested. But, to your credit, on proper medication HIV really isn't a big deal. However that also required taking medication every day (which for some reason people can struggle to do) and the medication IS expensive (and, not to get too political, not everyone has health insurance, and the people who often are at the most risk for this stuff are also the kinds of people who wouldn't have insurance).
But I absolutely believe if you know the facts and take the proper precautions, you can dramatically reduce the risk of even contracting HIV, rubber or not, but again, I'm simply advocating that people do the research and know what to look out for.
3) Vaccination for HPV is NOT available to anyone over the age of 26. Also, last trip to the County HD for STD testing had a long convo on HPV. Usually in a dude the body naturally clears most HPV infection in a couple of years.
For 3: you're right, and if you haven't been vaccinated already, then you're sort of screwed in that respect, and (at least for men), even the "dangerous" strains of HPV aren't that dangerous for us: they're only dangerous because, in women, they cause cervical cancer. But my main point is that even though it's one that you can get even with a rubber, it isn't one of the main ones to be worried about for safety in the "rubber or not" debate.
What makes the issue of "safe sex" so difficult is "beliefs" based on myths based on old science or just plain propaganda. This discussion needs to have "opinions" backed up by credible sources.
I know I'm being pedantic in this post, but I agree with you on the whole. Sex education is terrible in the US, and a large chunk of what people nowadays "understand" is a direct result of fear-based propaganda from the 80's and 90's.
Cephlapod Love
02-02-18, 02:34
(and, not to get too political, not everyone has health insurance, and the people who often are at the most risk for this stuff are also the kinds of people who wouldn't have insurance).Beyond the scope of this forum, but for personal enlightenment, would sure like to see statistics and proof of who is it in the USA that does not have health insurance? (that seems like a generalization) In my travels just about every SWer I have encountered has free health insurance through Medicaid.
But that said, (excluding Addicts) I believe most people are relatively honest and if asked will tell you if they have an HIV infection or if they have been tested and when and what are the results. Of course with antigen testing one can find the results of an infection much sooner (14-21 days) than in the "old days" when antibody testing ( 3 months) was all that existed.
But I absolutely believe if you know the facts and take the proper precautions, you can dramatically reduce the risk of even contracting HIV, rubber or not, but again, I'm simply advocating that people do the research and know what to look out for.Fair enough and good point. Learn the facts of the recent science & developments. Probably not well known in the heterosexual community, but there is a way to play bareback and avoid HIV. There is medication known as "PrEP" - which stands for Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis. Basically it is the same retro-viral drugs used to treat a HIV infection. (expensive as noted by OP) One takes the drugs and then if the HIV virus is introduced into the body the drugs zap it before it can multiply or take hold. Of course the "catch" is as mentioned, PrEP must be taken every day. PrEP is approved by the FDA and has been shown to be safe and effective at preventing HIV infection.
I know I'm being pedantic in this post, but I agree with you on the whole. Sex education is terrible in the US, and a large chunk of what people nowadays "understand" is a direct result of fear-based propaganda from the 80's and 90's.Agreed!
I know nobody wants to talk about STD's, but the risk's is there. The riskiest activities are anal and vaginal sex with or without a cover. I have been doing this for years and learned that for SW it is best to stick with BJ's. Now AMP's are a much cleaner place, the women are cleaner and the cliental are upper class. Meaning the people who visit usually do not have an STD. I would do BBFS there, if they offer it. See attached chart for further detail.
http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp
Cephlapod Love
02-16-18, 12:51
I know nobody wants to talk about STD's, but the risk's is there.
Huh? This entire thread is about STDs and the risks associated with such. Just on this page are a number of links to CDC risk tool as well as info on transmission risks, etc.
Post#813.
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/hivrisk/estimator.html
The riskiest activities are anal and vaginal sex with or without a cover.
What is "risk" is actually how one perceives risk and that is highly individual and often emotional rather than rational. Many "beliefs" that most latch on to. Some things to consider are in post # 811.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645291&viewfull=1#post3645291.
I have been doing this for years and learned that for SW it is best to stick with BJ's. Now AMP's are a much cleaner place, the women are cleaner and the clientele are upper class. Meaning the people who visit usually do not have an STD. I would do BBFS there, if they offer it.
Why do you think that is?
In my view, the issue with Street Walkers (SW) is that most, if not all, have some form of addiction and thus why they are on the streets. Now do not fall into the assumption that needles equals transmission or risk. It can, but needle exchange programs in many areas have reduced that form of risk. It appears as though the concern with addicts is that, when they are drug sick or Jonesing, they will do anything to get their meds and that means BBFS with anyone with cash or drugs. Also, what do the statistics in your area (State's Annual HIV Surveillance Report) say about who is infected? AA women? White Women? Asian Women? Men? In general, the rate of white women living with HIV is less than 2-tenths of a percent, <0. 2%. The rate for Asian women is even less. But you should confirm such with your location's information.
I think it is an assumption to say that AMP customers are upper class and do not have STDs. Last time I visited an AMP they did not ask for my social economic background, nor STD status before admitting me. Me thinks they were more interested in who I was (who I wasn't) and if I had the ability to pay. There ARE AMPs where BBFS is an option and those are usually famously reviewed on these threads. Also it may be a matter that is between the girl and her client. IF she likes him and he is nice & a regular she may allow BBFS. That usually takes time, effort and extra tip. But to assume AMP girls do not do BBFS.
See attached chart for further detail.
Not sure how that table explains why SWers are more risky than AMP girls?
I know for me that fear comes from a lack of knowledge. Once I understood the facts of risk, transmission and prevalence of STDs, I was better able to manage my risk on a rational rather than emotional basis. While fear is a good thing and a way to avoid stepping into the lion cage, it didn't need to cloud my judgement.
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Aviator1958
02-24-18, 00:37
Raimakahn.
Not a doctor but I think it takes a bit longer than 1 week for hiv to show up in your blood.
Had never been to Petersburg before, but had a growing desire to meet Ashley Emory, the chick who always ends her ad with "in Petersburg". I was looking through her Facebook page and decided she had pretty much everything I'm attracted to:
Nice rack - ✓.
Blonde hair - ✓.
LFK - ✓.
Blue eyes - ✓.
So off I went down 95. Made my appointment via text about an hour and a half ahead of time, which would generally be about how long it would take me too get there on a normal day but luck placed me South of Richmond just off 95 so I figured fate had taken a hand. Who was I to argue?
She was in a nice little wayside motorlodge in a darkish room. She was just about to step into a bath and invited me in so I could verify she was alone. She was.
After the bath, she entered smelling fresh and ready to get down to business. She was undressed in an instant and we feel into bed, kissing and roaming each other's bodies, allowing our lower regions to touch and rub and do their job. I was ready to go almost instantly!
She fell into a sweet little BBBJ and soon accepted my invitation to 69, a favorite of mine. The quicker her pace the quicker mine was and I felt her quivering way before I wanted to pop, which I was dangerously close to doing. I didn't come there to pop from a BJ, however so I moved into position and we started into covered mish. She really took a pounding, and I had to stop and catch my breath. Starting back was fun as I got a second BBBJ with some great hand action. Soon we resume covered Mish and this time I pounded out an awesome finish for both of us, or maybe just me (who cares, right?
We laid in bed talking for a bit and she told me she'd been saving up money to move into her own place but had recently been robbed and was starting all over. Apparently her father and brother know her lifestyle, but are cool with it.
Damage was $ hhr, so at that rate, I'll be back. I didn't ask if Greek was available, but I suspect it was. I'm ok without it, but to each their own.
I'd say she looks better in her pics, but she's still very pretty.
One negative is she smokes and you will smell like smoke after visiting. I expect she'd air the room out of you have her notice.Why'all are brave souls, how do you DATY on these girls, is that safe? All the guys on here been in that dude.
Why'all are brave souls, how do you DATY on these girls, is that safe? All the guys on here been in that dude.She said I was the only one. Are you implying she wasn't truthful? LMAO! Go big o go home!
Seriously, she hasn't done anything that soap and water won't take care of and as I said she came right out of the tub. Eating pussy is one of my favorite things to do. Go rain on someone else's parade.
Member #5895
03-22-18, 10:13
Hey fellas,
This one popped up in Cville and since she posted in your town under a different number I thought I would ask if anyone here has seen her.
Both links below.
http://charlottesville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/434-305-7533/34831637
http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/804-307-8074/35269007I wouldn't go for it somebody yesterday put up a ad on BP Richmond section it said that she has HIV and she will rob you it's better to be safe then sorry but hey you make your own choice be wise stay safe.
Why'all are brave souls, how do you DATY on these girls, is that safe? All the guys on here been in that dude.So you don't like BJs either? LOL Someone could easily say "How do you let these girls blow you, is that safe? All the guys on here have been in that mouth dude". Wouldn't that be the same as what you imply?
TwoDirection
03-23-18, 09:39
I wouldn't go for it somebody yesterday put up a ad on BP Richmond section it said that she has HIV and she will rob you it's better to be safe then sorry but hey you make your own choice be wise stay safe.Posts like that are almost always just bullshit posted by a disgruntled former customer. They're so mad that they go overboard with giving reasons you shouldn't see the girl without realizing what they've said doesn't make sense.
Think about it. How did he find out she had HIV and get robbed by her too? While she was robbing him, she said "by the way, I have HIV"? Seems unlikely. If not, then did he meet her successfully once, she told him she had HIV, and then he came back a second time to see her and that time she robbed him? Why would he have come back the second time? Makes no sense.
I've never met her, but that fake warning wouldn't dissuade me at all if I was planning to.
To the OP, though: my guess would be the girl in your town who has a different number has just stolen this girl's pics, though. This girl posts in Richmond every day lately.
Definitely not the same at all buddy, go read up on rise in oral cancer from DATY, their was a publication that came out recently that shocked me on that note, haven't seen one yet from getting blown.You said "is that safe", you didn't is that safe because of oral cancer. When people talk about safe practices they include all the STDs / STIs you can get, not just about cancer.
Raimakahn.
Not a doctor but I think it takes a bit longer than 1 week for hiv to show up in your blood.Yep. Depends on the blood test, but it usually takes 3-4 weeks before HIV becomes detectable.
Cephlapod Love
04-04-18, 14:09
Yep. Depends on the blood test, but it usually takes 3-4 weeks before HIV becomes detectable.True. IF you get tested by an Antigen test. The "rapid tests" measure antibodies to the HIV virus. It can take as long as 2-3 months for a particular body to produce antibodies to HIV in levels that are detectable.
CafeRaceritali
05-25-18, 22:49
I'm not a doctor of any sort, but I would give it a little before you freak out..Thanks. Was the first time this ever happened to me. We all know Googling these kinds of questions is useless. Glad the site's back up too. I just wanted to get a feel for what I'm up against. If anyone has ever actually gotten something from very quick BBBJ, I'd like to know.
Hi all, I need some help. I recently visited an AMP in northwest sububrs. After the shower, the girl randomly started to give me a BBBJ, about one or two quick sucks. Now I'm freaking out over potentially getting some kind of disease. Anyone here ever get anything from such a quick exposure? Also, any help as to clinics (cheap and discrete) would be much appreciated.I'm overly cautious about those sorts of things too cause I'm married. Chances of you getting anything is pretty slim but most symptoms show in first two weeks after that you can go get tested. I went to planned parenthood, I used my insurance but you can pay cash if you like (less that $100 I believe).
Hi all, I need some help. I recently visited an AMP in northwest sububrs. After the shower, the girl randomly started to give me a BBBJ, about one or two quick sucks. Now I'm freaking out over potentially getting some kind of disease. Anyone here ever get anything from such a quick exposure? Also, any help as to clinics (cheap and discrete) would be much appreciated.This.
I would keep a cover in my pocket if this ever happens again. Take this as a teachable moment. I've had no issues with a BBBJ.
Hi all, I need some help. I recently visited an AMP in northwest sububrs. After the shower, the girl randomly started to give me a BBBJ, about one or two quick sucks. Now I'm freaking out over potentially getting some kind of disease. Anyone here ever get anything from such a quick exposure? Also, any help as to clinics (cheap and discrete) would be much appreciated.I had a similar experience at exercise that happened so quick I couldn't do anything nothing has come of it so far though. Highly recommended place though.
Hi all, I need some help. I recently visited an AMP in northwest sububrs. After the shower, the girl randomly started to give me a BBBJ, about one or two quick sucks. Now I'm freaking out over potentially getting some kind of disease. Anyone here ever get anything from such a quick exposure? Also, any help as to clinics (cheap and discrete) would be much appreciated.Same thing happened to me. My main concern was herpes, but no symptoms after 1 month. Will get tested after 6 weeks just for peace of mind. Unprotected sex is too risky with the amount of customers that an my sees.
Hi all, I need some help. I recently visited an AMP in northwest sububrs. After the shower, the girl randomly started to give me a BBBJ, about one or two quick sucks. Now I'm freaking out over potentially getting some kind of disease. Anyone here ever get anything from such a quick exposure? Also, any help as to clinics (cheap and discrete) would be much appreciated.You can but not necesery. Chlamydia, often it's transmited by uncover BJ even. If you got contamined, you may feel itching while you pee. It's easy to cure in1- 2 weeks, you can order pils online without prescriptions. (I have some in case).
Whta's that place you went to?
1) One's risk of catching something from a BBBJ is about the same as one's risk of catching something from a LFK or DFK. How much do you worry about kissing a girl?
2) "yeah, but this was an MP not a date". I hear you, but realize that. These days. The nice girl you meet in the supermarket could easily have a notch count equal or higher than some escorts.
Hi all, I need some help. I recently visited an AMP in northwest sububrs. After the shower, the girl randomly started to give me a BBBJ, about one or two quick sucks. Now I'm freaking out over potentially getting some kind of disease. Anyone here ever get anything from such a quick exposure? Also, any help as to clinics (cheap and discrete) would be much appreciated.
CafeRaceritali
05-31-18, 00:59
1) One's risk of catching something from a BBBJ is about the same as one's risk of catching something from a LFK or DFK. How much do you worry about kissing a girl?
2) "yeah, but this was an MP not a date". I hear you, but realize that. These days. The nice girl you meet in the supermarket could easily have a notch count equal or higher than some escorts.Update: I got something. Ruined my whole goddamned weekend. Tingly penis, frequent urination, inflamed urethra, inflamed prostate, slight pain in balls, crazy rash from the oil used, many sleepless nights. I went to the city sti clinic on division (austin neighborhood). No chlamydia, still waiting for results on gonnoreah. Nurse said I had an NGU, which is basically a bacterial infection.
Honest question about this. Aren't you guys worried about STD's?! I mean that is really risky. Right?
TwoBlueBalls
05-31-18, 13:52
Especially with BBFS and if I hear that is what a gal provides I tend to take a pass, BUT. . .
Sometimes the little head gets the better of the big head.
Then it's hope and pray or ask yourself was it worth it.
Honest question about this. Aren't you guys worried about STD's?! I mean that is really risky. Right?
Honest question about this. Aren't you guys worried about STD's?! I mean that is really risky. Right?It's a very low risk activity; you'd have a better chance of getting hit by lightning.
NudeBeachPerv
06-01-18, 03:33
Honest question about this. Aren't you guys worried about STD's?! I mean that is really risky. Right?Here's an article for you.
https://www.gq.com/story/ask-dr-jake-can-i-get-stds-from-oral-sex
More dangerous for the person giving oral than receiving.
And, realistically, most people have been exposed to Herpes.
As far as you guys who like t give oral (is DATY the proper acronym?
The singer from Iron Maiden got throat cancer from that and so did actor Michael Douglas.
Param Ahmad
06-10-18, 22:50
According to the 2018 edition of The Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy (20th edition, page 1624), "condoms to not cover all areas that can be affected and thus do not fully protect against genital herpes. ".
The chapter of this book about "genital warts" says "Because of the location of these warts, condoms may not fully protect against infection" (p. 1704).
The most protective condoms are the Unique (sometimes called Pasante Unique) condom, that is pulled rather than rolled on and covers the whole penis and has a flange at the bottom that covers a small area beyond the base of the penis. Another good choice that covers much better than usual condoms is the female condom with the inner loop REMOVED and the condom pulled over and worn on the penis rather than used by the woman.
PanchoVilla69
06-16-18, 18:06
Hey gents, just wondering if any of you mongers caught some sketchy shit (STDs) at an AMP? And if so how did you go about it afterwords?
BlueSkyBlue
06-16-18, 23:56
Hey gents, just wondering if any of you mongers caught some sketchy shit (STDs) at an AMP? And if so how did you go about it afterwords?No, a HJ received at an AMP presents a very low likelihood of a transmittance vector of viral or bacterial infection.
If you do display symptoms of an STD go see your doctor.
Hey gents, just wondering if any of you mongers caught some sketchy shit (STDs) at an AMP? And if so how did you go about it afterwords?I just got tested on Friday and I'm clean. You should try to think with your big head and if you use protection the probability is extremely low. If you don't, well you're playing Russian roulette but that's your decision.
No, a HJ received at an AMP presents a very low likelihood of a transmittance vector of viral or bacterial infection.
If you do display symptoms of an STD go see your doctor.Where did he say he only got a handie? We've had reports here of people getting BBFS at San Diego parlors.
Why go to your doctor? The county clinic does a pretty good job, specializes in this stuff, and is free.
BlueSkyBlue
06-17-18, 12:04
Thanks for the link to the county health department, That’s good information to have
The issue is there's several different factors that are vehicles for STD transmission in a massage parlor. I still think the vast majority of people are getting hand jobs and therefore their risk is almost minimal unless they're kissing the girl and she has mononucleosis or herpes outbreak, getting a massage and A manual release (to my way of thinking) is a very safe outlet.
If you have unprotected bareback full blown stick your dick in her pussy sex.
I think statistically you run a greater risk of picking up some sort of bacterial or viral infection (like gonorrhea) that can be treated with anabiotic's.
The actual female to male transmittance of HIV is pretty low but there is a host of other bacteria lurking in a woman's pussy, it's the perfect incubator for disease being a warm wet environment. So having shared such romantic thoughts with you most of the girls are pretty clean but if it smells like fish or smells dirty you probably don't want your dick in it (at least uncovered) and I know many std's do not display outward symptoms for a prolonged period of time if ever. Whether its through your hands your saliva or your semen, any exchange of bodily fluids (sweat ,pussy juice or sperm) are ways that we can exchange std, Same way you can get the common cold or flu by just being In proximity to all the aerosol excretions that human beings give off massage is a more intimate environment and I dont see people too worried about catching the flu when theyre getting their body rub
There's just potentially so many things that can go wrong, so risk management the keyword. If you limit your own expose to unprotected partners and get regularly tested, You minimize the risk of yourself getting infected or spreading it on to other people. Assuming of course you're not a selfish asshole that doesn't care about infecting other people if you have any sort of conscience you will stop when you're aware that you have something.
Try to be sensible about the whole thing or better yet always cover up or just stay home and cry like a little baby that you never get laid, There's risk anything you do in life including drive to work in the morning, so try to put things in perspective.
If a guy can afford to pay for "entertainment" he can afford to pay $40. A member here claiming he is "unable to pay" would seem to be untruthful.
https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/hhsa/programs/phs/hiv_std_hepatitis_branch/std_clinical_services.html
Cephlapod Love
06-18-18, 13:26
If you have unprotected bareback full blown stick your dick in her pussy sex.
I think statistically you run a greater risk of picking up some sort of bacterial or viral infection (like gonorrhea) that can be treated with anabiotic's.
The actual female to male transmittance of HIV is pretty low but there is a host of other bacteria lurking in a woman's pussy, it's the perfect incubator for disease being a warm wet environment. So having shared such romantic thoughts with you most of the girls are pretty clean but if it smells like fish or smells dirty you probably don't want your dick in it (at least uncovered) and I know many std's do not display outward symptoms for a prolonged period of time if ever. Whether its through your hands your saliva or your semen, any exchange of bodily fluids (sweat ,pussy juice or sperm) are ways that we can exchange std, Same way you can get the common cold or flu by just being In proximity to all the aerosol excretions that human beings give off massage is a more intimate environment and I dont see people too worried about catching the flu when theyre getting their body rub
There's just potentially so many things that can go wrong, so risk management the keyword. If you limit your own expose to unprotected partners and get regularly tested, You minimize the risk of yourself getting infected or spreading it on to other people. Assuming of course you're not a selfish asshole that doesn't care about infecting other people if you have any sort of conscience you will stop when you're aware that you have something.
Try to be sensible about the whole thing or better yet always cover up or just stay home and cry like a little baby that you never get laid, There's risk anything you do in life including drive to work in the morning, so try to put things in perspective.I know there is a lot of "common knowledge" out there regarding STDs and transmission. Problem is that most of it is wrong. I. e. Not supported by the science or facts.
Yes, transmission rates from women to men are VERY low for HIV. Especially important is having in tact, uncompromised, skin on your penis. The skin was designed to be a barrier and a pretty good one at that. However, if there are cuts, scrapes, rashes, abrasion or worn down skin the barrier can be compromised and less effective.
But I'd love to see to evidence from scientific studies that demonstrates that a "fishy smell" is a consistent, reliable indicator of disease in a vagina! If one uses that as a guide they are fooling them self. Some women's vagina have a different odor than others. I have been with women who I know were 100% clean (we were tested together. Full panel) and they had an odor to them. Vaginas with an infect do not always generate a smell or odor. So the point is that the "sniff test" is worthless for disease detection and only one for aesthetic purposes.
But avoiding STDs is a matter of risk management. As I have posted previously in this thread, most humans are terrible about perceiving risk and managing it appropriately. If you are scared of STDs whether rational or not, then COVER UP every time! But also know that if you mess up and catch something: 1) There is nothing out that there that will kill you! (HIV is a manageable chronic condition these days). Most of what is out there can be treated with drugs.
But hey, I get the misunderstandings that are out there. The CDC spread a bunch of baloney years ago when HIV first became an issue and scare tactics were the only way to control behavior. Science & technology have marched on, sadly "beliefs" based on old information seem to persist.
TwoBlueBalls
06-18-18, 17:12
Good job friend!
I know there is a lot of "common knowledge" out there regarding STDs and transmission. Problem is that most of it is wrong. I. e. Not supported by the science or facts.
Yes, transmission rates from women to men are VERY low for HIV. Especially important is having in tact, uncompromised, skin on your penis. The skin was designed to be a barrier and a pretty good one at that. However, if there are cuts, scrapes, rashes, abrasion or worn down skin the barrier can be compromised and less effective.
But I'd love to see to evidence from scientific studies that demonstrates that a "fishy smell" is a consistent, reliable indicator of disease in a vagina! If one uses that as a guide they are fooling them self. Some women's vagina have a different odor than others. I have been with women who I know were 100% clean (we were tested together. Full panel) and they had an odor to them. Vaginas with an infect do not always generate a smell or odor. So the point is that the "sniff test" is worthless for disease detection and only one for aesthetic purposes..
Yesterday I posted about criminal safety. Today I thought I should post about biological safety given that an SW has hep in Toledo.
For all our sakes, look over any girl's mouth or pubes. On the lips, those say they're just cold sores are either misinformed or lying. All cold sores are hepatitis. It can be transmitted via oral or even vaginal sex. Barring a medical breakthrough, once you have it, you cannot be cured of it. If you're married or have an SO, I don't envy the interrogation you'll receive when cold sores begin appearing. If you get it and then infect another girl, it makes shit worse for all of us.
I realize she isn't trying to infect anyone, but she's still being selfish and putting us at risk. If a girl has something, she's not going to reveal it because she wants that dope money. This goes for any type of STD.
You are less likely to notice signs of STD's when you're getting your knob shined after sundown, but it's srill important to your health to take precautions. You can always go the route of only getting covered services.
Cephlapod Love
06-19-18, 15:08
Yesterday I posted about criminal safety. Today I thought I should post about biological safety given that an SW has hep in Toledo.
For all our sakes, look over any girl's mouth or pubes. On the lips, those say they're just cold sores are either misinformed or lying. All cold sores are hepatitis. It can be transmitted via oral or even vaginal sex. Barring a medical breakthrough, once you have it, you cannot be cured of it. If you're married or have an SO, I don't envy the interrogation you'll receive when cold sores begin appearing. If you get it and then infect another girl, it makes shit worse for all of us.
I realize she isn't trying to infect anyone, but she's still being selfish and putting us at risk. If a girl has something, she's not going to reveal it because she wants that dope money. This goes for any type of STD.
You are less likely to notice signs of STD's when you're getting your knob shined after sundown, but it's srill important to your health to take precautions. You can always go the route of only getting covered services.Oh my! Not again?
Does anyone watch TV anymore? I am constantly being bombarded by adverts that say, in essence, "Get tested for Hep C "(Hepatitis C). The reasons those adverts are out there is that there HAS BEEN a medical break through and at least two companies have an FDA Approved Drug for Hep C currently on the market! Yeah, I think it is ghastly expensive and if it is still at the $100 K level, may not be covered by insurance. However, the TREATMENT(s) do/does exist.
Hey, I don't mind warnings when it comes to STDs or other diseases. But there is a lot of false "Common Knowledge" (or out-dated information) out there! I strongly recommend anyone with an interest to perhaps do a little searching on the web? [ I]{It took me less than 45 seconds to Google "cure for Hep C" and find a WebMD article.}[/I].
Yeah, I get it, STDs are an emotional topic and often in emotion, reason falls to the wayside, especially when it comes to STDs. That is one's choice, as is how one decides to manage personal risk. But I think we are all better served when we stick to the facts and science, and avoid emotional statements. I'm just sayin'.
ManFourWoman
06-19-18, 15:35
Yesterday I posted about criminal safety. Today I thought I should post about biological safety given that an SW has hep in Toledo.
For all our sakes, look over any girl's mouth or pubes. On the lips, those say they're just cold sores are either misinformed or lying. All cold sores are hepatitis. It can be transmitted via oral or even vaginal sex. Barring a medical breakthrough, once you have it, you cannot be cured of it. If you're married or have an SO, I don't envy the interrogation you'll receive when cold sores begin appearing. If you get it and then infect another girl, it makes shit worse for all of us.
I realize she isn't trying to infect anyone, but she's still being selfish and putting us at risk. If a girl has something, she's not going to reveal it because she wants that dope money. This goes for any type of STD.
You are less likely to notice signs of STD's when you're getting your knob shined after sundown, but it's srill important to your health to take precautions. You can always go the route of only getting covered services.After researching nowhere can I find a correlation between cold sores and HEP.
Show me / us where online you can make this case so we are better informed.
THANKS.
Cold sores — also called fever blisters — are a common viral infection. . They're caused by a herpes simplex virus (HSV-1) closely related to the one that causes genital herpes (HSV-2). Both of these viruses can affect your mouth or genitals and can be spread by oral sex.
Oh my! Not again?
Does anyone watch TV anymore? I am constantly being bombarded by adverts that say, in essence, "Get tested for Hep C "(Hepatitis C). The reasons those adverts are out there is that there HAS BEEN a medical break through and at least two companies have an FDA Approved Drug for Hep C currently on the market! Yeah, I think it is ghastly expensive and if it is still at the $100 K level, may not be covered by insurance. However, the TREATMENT(s) do/does exist.
Hey, I don't mind warnings when it comes to STDs or other diseases. But there is a lot of false "Common Knowledge" (or out-dated information) out there! I strongly recommend anyone with an interest to perhaps do a little searching on the web? {It took me less than 45 seconds to Google "cure for Hep C" and find a WebMD article.}.
Yeah, I get it, STDs are an emotional topic and often in emotion, reason falls to the wayside, especially when it comes to STDs. That is one's choice, as is how one decides to manage personal risk. But I think we are all better served when we stick to the facts and science, and avoid emotional statements. I'm just sayin'.I guess A2 redirected my post here, but you guys aren't my intended audience. I wouldn't have bothered to post it here because I'm not interested in the kind of negative feedback I know comes from posting here.
I didn't say it was hep. It's herpes which has no cure unless I'm failing to see something.
I moved it here because posts like this take over threads forever. That's why we made this thread.
A2
Oh my! Not again?
Does anyone watch TV anymore? I am constantly being bombarded by adverts that say, in essence, "Get tested for Hep C "(Hepatitis C). The reasons those adverts are out there is that there HAS BEEN a medical break through and at least two companies have an FDA Approved Drug for Hep C currently on the market! Yeah, I think it is ghastly expensive and if it is still at the $100 K level, may not be covered by insurance. However, the TREATMENT(s) do/does exist.
Hey, I don't mind warnings when it comes to STDs or other diseases. But there is a lot of false "Common Knowledge" (or out-dated information) out there! I strongly recommend anyone with an interest to perhaps do a little searching on the web? {It took me less than 45 seconds to Google "cure for Hep C" and find a WebMD article.}.
Yeah, I get it, STDs are an emotional topic and often in emotion, reason falls to the wayside, especially when it comes to STDs. That is one's choice, as is how one decides to manage personal risk. But I think we are all better served when we stick to the facts and science, and avoid emotional statements. I'm just sayin'.My apologies. I see that I did mistakenly call it hep. Admittedly, I sometimes confuse these two H words.
I had unprotected sex with a regular. I haven't had sex with anyone else in several months. I got tested on Tuesday, results came back negative for 10 different STDs. But I'm still a little sore after I piss and there is a white substance that I can force out of my dick in the morning. Any ideas gents.
I had unprotected sex with a regular. I haven't had sex with anyone else in several months. I got tested on Tuesday, results came back negative for 10 different STDs. But I'm still a little sore after I piss and there is a white substance that I can force out of my dick in the morning. Any ideas gents.Urinary tract infection?
Cephlapod Love
07-08-18, 01:53
I had unprotected sex with a regular. I haven't had sex with anyone else in several months. I got tested on Tuesday, results came back negative for 10 different STDs. But I'm still a little sore after I piss and there is a white substance that I can force out of my dick in the morning. Any ideas gents.If you tested negative, that is good.
White substance coming out of yer dick in the AM? Left overs from nocturnal emissions?
I have had instances where spicy food or over use of Vitamins caused some discomfort on urination. If that is a possibility, then back off one at a time for several days to see if that has an effect.
Otherwise go see the doc.
JdaLittleBir76
07-08-18, 16:51
My pullout game is weak. Once they let me go in raw / bb, there is a 99% chance I will fill it. Not maliciously, I just don't have the penile fortitude to yank & spray on cue.I always want to ask for those who had bb with a escort, do you ever thought about you might get something from them, because she does bb with you she definitely bb with some of her clients, for me I never have the guts to do that, but it's just my opinion, have fun and play safe my brothers.
ScreamPieMongr
07-09-18, 08:58
I always want to ask for those who had bb with a escort, do you ever thought about you might get something from them, because she does bb with you she definitely bb with some of her clients, for me I never have the guts to do that, but it's just my opinion, have fun and play safe my brothers.Bacon Double Cheeseburgers are soooooooooo good right? It's the bacon. It actually makes it more dangerous to your cardio health. As I bite into it, I sometimes think of the consequences, but I still chomp down. As a precaution, I see my doctor often. I look at mongering the same. Slapping a cover on it, is like leaving out the bacon. Just ain't the same. Hence the reason I have my twice monthly checkup. In conclusion, BBFS / CIP is like slapping a few pieces of fat juicy bacon along with a tablespoon of mayo. Pardon my bacon-analogy but I'm just wired that way. Peace out my monger broz. Have fun.
Cephlapod Love
07-10-18, 20:26
I always want to ask for those who had bb with a escort, do you ever thought about you might get something from them, because she does bb with you she definitely bb with some of her clients, for me I never have the guts to do that, but it's just my opinion, have fun and play safe my brothers.The way one plays with a girl is a personal choice and basically hinges on how one perceives risk. Everyone is different and generally humans are terrible at proper perception of and management of risk.
The facts are that for the most part, transmission rates from women to men are low, there is nothing out there that will kill you, most things can be treated and the rest managed as long-term chronic conditions. Plenty of the details of all of that are in this very thread if one wants to read back a year and a half or so.
But of course as the conservatives want you to know. You can't catch an STD if one stays in a monogamous relationship with a clean / tested girl. Oh and condoms help too!
But all symptoms went away in 3-4 days. I took the self uti test and it also was negative. Who knows.
Cephlapod Love
07-11-18, 19:03
But all symptoms went away in 3-4 days. I took the self uti test and it also was negative. Who knows.Maybe you immune system was on the job and cleared whatever issue was around?
FapAway5592
07-13-18, 16:26
While sitting on Harford this morning scouting the 2 SW's and watching a fellow Monger make a scoop I had a question come into my head that I've been meaning to ask on here. I see a lot of talk about BBFD and BBBJ on here. I'm curious, with all the mongering, and all the acts the SW's do aren't you guys concerned about disease? During my one successful monger dream we had to stop at a gas station and get a rubber because I couldn't comprehend letting a SW put me in her without that. Just looking for peoples $. 02. I am in no way judging. Thanks.
While sitting on Harford this morning scouting the 2 SW's and watching a fellow Monger make a scoop I had a question come into my head that I've been meaning to ask on here. I see a lot of talk about BBFD and BBBJ on here. I'm curious, with all the mongering, and all the acts the SW's do aren't you guys concerned about disease? During my one successful monger dream we had to stop at a gas station and get a rubber because I couldn't comprehend letting a SW put me in her without that. Just looking for peoples $. 02. I am in no way judging. Thanks.I've been wondering about that too actually because I've had 2 out of 3 SW offer BBFS when I lied and said I forgot a condom only to "find one by luck" in my trunk afterwards. Here's some info I found in the forums on the subject:
You can catch chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, trich, herpes, HPV and HIV from BBFS oral sex or kissing. Herpes, HPV and HIV cannot be treated and you will have them for life. Period. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis and trich can be treated but they are often asymptomatic and go undetected. If they're not treated, they can lead to other serious issues, not to mention spreading that shit around.
Barraquda22
07-13-18, 20:37
While sitting on Harford this morning scouting the 2 SW's and watching a fellow Monger make a scoop I had a question come into my head that I've been meaning to ask on here. I see a lot of talk about BBFD and BBBJ on here. I'm curious, with all the mongering, and all the acts the SW's do aren't you guys concerned about disease? During my one successful monger dream we had to stop at a gas station and get a rubber because I couldn't comprehend letting a SW put me in her without that. Just looking for peoples $. 02. I am in no way judging. Thanks.Some don't care, some like the thrill. I've met girls I've gone raw with and ones I wouldn't let give me a HJ. Depends on how clean they seem. Then again I have immediate access to ARVs and always run a course if I've done more than a BJ with any provider, raw or otherwise. So far despite all the women I've had, I've never caught a thing. Been lucky as fuck imo. I still get tested regularly even though I've severely declined my hobbying. Advice to anyone that wants good words of wisdom; strap up for anything you are doing with someone other than your wife or trusted sigoth.
BQ22.
Some don't care, some like the thrill. I've met girls I've gone raw with and ones I wouldn't let give me a HJ. Depends on how clean they seem. Then again I have immediate access to ARVs and always run a course if I've done more than a BJ with any provider, raw or otherwise. So far despite all the women I've had, I've never caught a thing. Been lucky as fuck imo. I still get tested regularly even though I've severely declined my hobbying. Advice to anyone that wants good words of wisdom; strap up for anything you are doing with someone other than your wife or trusted sigoth.
BQ22.I totally agree I don't really go out like that too much but when I do cover up been burned a few times going BBBJ and even reported it on the forum after that covers all the time.
Slaytastic
07-14-18, 13:09
While sitting on Harford this morning scouting the 2 SW's and watching a fellow Monger make a scoop I had a question come into my head that I've been meaning to ask on here. I see a lot of talk about BBFD and BBBJ on here. I'm curious, with all the mongering, and all the acts the SW's do aren't you guys concerned about disease? During my one successful monger dream we had to stop at a gas station and get a rubber because I couldn't comprehend letting a SW put me in her without that. Just looking for peoples $. 02. I am in no way judging. Thanks.The Jimmy hat was invented for a reason. Mainly because scallywags like the ones we come across will do anything for a buck. Better safe than sorry. I like to play a game; I grab about 3-6 condoms each trip to Bmore and I pretty much count them as rounds.
Also, never trust anything from a SW. Have your own, or double check the packaging to make sure it's not expired. You have no idea how many are expired.
PellyMason
07-14-18, 20:18
I've been wondering about that too actually because I've had 2 out of 3 SW offer BBFS when I lied and said I forgot a condom only to "find one by luck" in my trunk afterwards. Here's some info I found in the forums on the subject:
You can catch chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, trich, herpes, HPV and HIV from BBFS oral sex or kissing. Herpes, HPV and HIV cannot be treated and you will have them for life. Period. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis and trich can be treated but they are often asymptomatic and go undetected. If they're not treated, they can lead to other serious issues, not to mention spreading that shit around.Last I heard HIV was not transmissible by BBBJ. But I see now that it is, at very low risk. I need to re-think this BBBJ thing.
I have been going to Massage Parlors since way before the Aids scare changed the entire sex business. One thing that has always bothered me is the cleanup after our fun. Almost always the girl leaves the room and returns with a hot towel to wipe me off / clean me up. I am concerned about how many other dudes have had their junk cleaned with the same towel. It is just my pet paranoia as I have never caught anything from any girl or from any towel so why does it bother me, just does. I wonder if I'm the Lone Ranger on this.
I do keep high power kill all germs wipes in my vehicle and as I'm driving away or before I pull out my junk and give it good wipe.
Cockasians
07-18-18, 22:57
I have been going to Massage Parlors since way before the Aids scare changed the entire sex business. One thing that has always bothered me is the cleanup after our fun. Almost always the girl leaves the room and returns with a hot towel to wipe me off / clean me up. I am concerned about how many other dudes have had their junk cleaned with the same towel. It is just my pet paranoia as I have never caught anything from any girl or from any towel so why does it bother me, just does. I wonder if I'm the Lone Ranger on this.
I do keep high power kill all germs wipes in my vehicle and as I'm driving away or before I pull out my junk and give it good wipe.She could be wiping her crouch with the warm towel and then coming back in the room and cleaning your face, hands, and clockwork the same towel, what is worse? Having your doctor tell you that you have gonoriaa or your dentist?
MichaelOhSix
07-19-18, 23:08
I have been going to Massage Parlors since way before the Aids scare changed the entire sex business. One thing that has always bothered me is the cleanup after our fun. Almost always the girl leaves the room and returns with a hot towel to wipe me off / clean me up. I am concerned about how many other dudes have had their junk cleaned with the same towel. It is just my pet paranoia as I have never caught anything from any girl or from any towel so why does it bother me, just does. I wonder if I'm the Lone Ranger on this.
I do keep high power kill all germs wipes in my vehicle and as I'm driving away or before I pull out my junk and give it good wipe.You're not a Lone Ranger on this one. I always wonder if it's really thoroughly washed or just rinsed well. I also wonder about the already opened condom or am I just thinking too much?
I can only tell you from my experience of knowing a couple ladies who own and run shops that they don't reuse the towels without washing them thoroughly, Typically they have a bleach bucket near the washer that they throw the cum towels in once they have wiped you off, takes care of any DNA evidence they've stroking your Johnson. Depending on the day they'll do a couple of loads of wash on those a day, bleach and detergent, cleans everything up and sends it on down the drain, far from any prying eyes of LE. Unless you are in a shop where the whole place seems re-used I wouldn't worry about the towels too much, they usually are washing them every day.
I have been going to Massage Parlors since way before the Aids scare changed the entire sex business. One thing that has always bothered me is the cleanup after our fun. Almost always the girl leaves the room and returns with a hot towel to wipe me off / clean me up. I am concerned about how many other dudes have had their junk cleaned with the same towel. It is just my pet paranoia as I have never caught anything from any girl or from any towel so why does it bother me, just does. I wonder if I'm the Lone Ranger on this.
I do keep high power kill all germs wipes in my vehicle and as I'm driving away or before I pull out my junk and give it good wipe.
Miami is the epic center for new HIV cases in the US.
https://youtu.be/NCcgaMnI_s4
Miami is the epic center for new HIV cases in the US.
https://youtu.be/NCcgaMnI_s4This isn't new, this has been the case for plenty of years ahead.
Very Scary
07-21-18, 15:12
Miami is the epic center for new HIV cases in the US.
https://youtu.be/NCcgaMnI_s4If you're not gay or shooting needles then you chances of getting HIV are very low. Don't let the media scare you.
SpikeBites
07-23-18, 18:39
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.
ChrisPoontang
07-23-18, 19:11
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.Don't wait, get tested and get on Meds.
Waiting will just make things worse.
If your engine started backfiring and shooting sparks when you drove it would you wait to get it looked at?
Of course not!
Treat your pecker better then you would treat your car because no ones going to accept it as a trade-in.
SpikeBites
07-23-18, 22:34
Don't wait, get tested and get on Meds.
Waiting will just make things worse.
If your engine started backfiring and shooting sparks when you drove it would you wait to get it looked at?
Of course not!
Treat your pecker better then you would treat your car because no ones going to accept it as a trade-in.I thought I should wait a few days because doesn't it usually take a few days before symptoms or anything show up on a test?
ChrisPoontang
07-23-18, 22:57
I thought I should wait a few days because doesn't it usually take a few days before symptoms or anything show up on a test?You don't need symptoms to have an active infection.
Most places like Planned Parenthood will give you a Zpack even if you are not having any symptoms.
The Zpack can help prevent symptoms such as feeling like you are pissing fire and it will usually kill any STI's you might have.
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.You probably have a simple infection. Kinda like when a woman gets a urinary tract infection. I forgot the Over the counter treatments that are available. Also, you try drinking cranberry juice. That has been known to help as well. But if this continues to persist, then the UTI maybe a symptom of STI. But if a woman has UTI on the beginning of an UTI, there is a good chance that all you have.
SpikeBites
07-24-18, 15:46
You don't need symptoms to have an active infection.
Most places like Planned Parenthood will give you a Zpack even if you are not having any symptoms.
The Zpack can help prevent symptoms such as feeling like you are pissing fire and it will usually kill any STI's you might have.Thanks for the advice, I went to PP earlier today, and they gave me a prescription for zythromicin. Hopefully the tests come out negative, they are only testing for syph and gonn. I have insurance but I'm thinking I should've said I didn't. Could've saved $110 and also prevented any sort of paper trail linking me to PP.
You don't need symptoms to have an active infection.
Most places like Planned Parenthood will give you a Zpack even if you are not having any symptoms.
The Zpack can help prevent symptoms such as feeling like you are pissing fire and it will usually kill any STI's you might have.How does the testing at planned parenting work? Is it anonymous? Or do, you have to show ID? Please more detail would be helpful. Thank you.
I have tried lemonaid.com where you would communicate with a Dr. Via the website and get the Dr. 's order to visit a testing lab (you pick the ones on their list). I think the cost is less than $50. The test only covers clap and gono.
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.Bristol / 17th the OC health clinic. They will joh doe you then you come back for the final yes or no. Good place to get relief. They do a full on check there. Just say you meet some horney gal and what to get checked out. Some kind story like that is ok with them.
SpikeBites
07-24-18, 23:01
How does the testing at planned parenting work? Is it anonymous? Or do, you have to show ID? Please more detail would be helpful. Thank you.Its fairly anonymous even though you need to give them I'd. I think if you told them you don't have insurance then the whole visit is free, but I gave them my insurance card because I felt kind of weird being a man at my age without insurance. I had to pay $75 for the office visit copay and $35 for the testing. Other thing is, if the test comes out positive, they will give you a phone call but won't leave a voice mail. If you don't answer your phone, they will send a letter to your house! LOL. I was like WHAT? So, yeah you need to make sure you answer your phone. It'll be from a "blocked / unknown" number.
ThriceQuit
07-24-18, 23:16
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.BB is not for the faint of heart. It's playing with fire or Russian roulette. It's a number game. All it takes is just one time and you're done. Just sayin'.
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.Seek medical advise from appropriate professionals. The most common STD is UTI; Most other infections will take a 3-4 days to show symptoms.
You probably have a simple infection. Kinda like when a woman gets a urinary tract infection. I forgot the Over the counter treatments that are available. Also, you try drinking cranberry juice. That has been known to help as well. But if this continues to persist, then the UTI maybe a symptom of STI. But if a woman has UTI on the beginning of an UTI, there is a good chance that all you have.If you need testing, the Obria clinic in Long Beach will give you a full STI test (including HIV) for $56. You will receive test results in two days over the internet.
Pretty easy and cheap. Didn't even have to use my health insurance.
I guess I'm one of the lucky one. My DNA test came back with mutation Delta32-CCR5. First, I"m not so sure, so I paid for all my sibling DNA tests to see if we all have Delta32-CCR5. So I guess my mutual is right, since all my siblings got the same mutation. What a huge relief. I'm going to Bareback carefree all the way now. I'm HIV immune!
Read more about Delta32-CCR5 and get tested to see if you immune to HIV. If your ancestry from Europe, chances are high that you will have this DNA mutation.
Just curious. I've never barebacked anyone before but the other day I got this crazy BBBJ from a provider, and she did some intense sucking, like it was a mix of pleasure and pain, and then the next day I've had this stinging sensation everytime I pee, but only the tip and only at the start. Once I get the pee going it stops hurting. I don't have any other symptoms. No discharge. And since this started the day after the experience my friend told me it couldn't be a STD since it usually takes a few days before symptoms start.
It's been 4 days now and it still stings when I pee. I'm thinking of waiting another few days before going to get tested. Funny thing is, I just had my physical two weeks ago and all test came back clean and now I have to go get tested again. I might just go to a STD clinic rather than my primary care physician. Anyone recommend any place in OC? I'm thinking of just going to planned parenthood.
Bristol / 17th the OC health clinic. They will joh doe you then you come back for the final yes or no. Good place to get relief. They do a full on check there. Just say you meet some horney gal and what to get checked out. Some kind story like that is ok with them.Salty. Thanks for the info. Do they require insurance or accept payment directly? The SO sees all insurance activity so need to avoid any info flow.
TIA.
Salty. Thanks for the info. Do they require insurance or accept payment directly? The SO sees all insurance activity so need to avoid any info flow.
TIA.No, this place is free but your name and dob is require. Apt is highly recommended, otherwise you'll be there for hours. Got my test done here since 2015 when I started this fun yet costly activity LOL.
Jake Diver
07-26-18, 17:27
I thought I should wait a few days because doesn't it usually take a few days before symptoms or anything show up on a test?If you have symptoms from an STI, then your tests will be positive. Get checked. It may not be an STI. Sometimes, if you have a girl getting aggressive, she may "injure" you a bit, and you'll get the same symptoms. Once had a girl eating spicy shit then giving me a BBBJ. Felt my dick getting hot and was wondering if I just caught something, but then realized symptoms wouldn't show so quickly. It was afterwards that I saw the bottle of hot sauce she was using on her dinner.
No, this place is free but your name and dob is require. Apt is highly recommended, otherwise you'll be there for hours. Got my test done here since 2015 when I started this fun yet costly activity LOL.No. Your name is not required. I don't remember giving dob but it was all anonymous. I recommend. They'll give you a number and when to come back.
Salty. Thanks for the info. Do they require insurance or accept payment directly? The SO sees all insurance activity so need to avoid any info flow.
TIA.No insurance or anything required either. Just walk in the front door and follow the line to the room and have a seat. Give them some lame ass story. They just want people to stay clean.
SpikeBites
07-26-18, 21:01
No more pain. That is some strong stuff to work so quickly.
No test results back yet though.
You don't need symptoms to have an active infection.
Most places like Planned Parenthood will give you a Zpack even if you are not having any symptoms.
The Zpack can help prevent symptoms such as feeling like you are pissing fire and it will usually kill any STI's you might have.Wow. Really? For free? No way. They need diagnosis first, right?
Jake Diver
07-28-18, 20:07
You don't need symptoms to have an active infection.
Most places like Planned Parenthood will give you a Zpack even if you are not having any symptoms.
The Zpack can help prevent symptoms such as feeling like you are pissing fire and it will usually kill any STI's you might have.A Zpack, or azithromycin taken as 1 gram in a single dose is only effective for chlamydia. Not for gonorrhea, syphilis, HIV, etc.
BooRadley72
09-03-18, 13:37
I met her numerous times, but haven't in a couple of months.
I could care less about GFE, for that I have the wife.
But god damn that body of hers is a perfect 10!
She is colder, at least in the beginning, but warms up the more she gets to know you. And she does have the "hoodie" vibe to her but I like it cause it's kinda sluty and makes you want to pound it harder.
I'd recommend a visit with her (hope nothing changed drastically in the last couple of months) and start with a 30 min for the first couple of sessions. Oh and the other thing I liked about her is the safety, everything is covered, which I know others here are not fans of. But the risk of bringing something back to the wife is much smaller.
I never understood why would anyone want to daty or kiss any of these high volume girls from STG or BP back in the day. Someone else's dick was in their mouth and pussy 30 min earlier. But to each their own.You hit some nails on the head. I developed an email friendship with one of the guys here who recently got in deep trouble and disappeared from the forum. He only went to AMPs because of the disease risk with oral and full service with ptoviders. He is a doctor and quoted some statistics about STDs and risk. After hearing that I personally would prefer a provider who does not BB. Considering that these girls probably loathe us, it is not like they care about our health. If you can find a hot girl that does everything covered, that to me is ideal. To each their own.
HornyGuy Lif
09-03-18, 21:23
You hit some nails on the head. I developed an email friendship with one of the guys here who recently got in deep trouble and disappeared from the forum. He only went to AMPs because of the disease risk with oral and full service with ptoviders. He is a doctor and quoted some statistics about STDs and risk. After hearing that I personally would prefer a provider who does not BB. Considering that these girls probably loathe us, it is not like they care about our health. If you can find a hot girl that does everything covered, that to me is ideal. To each their own.You got that right, the big risk of unprotected oral is contracting HPV and it turning into cancer somewhere in time. Seems to be the next big health issue looming in the future for guys and girls. Will they have a pap smear for eveyones mouth and throat? Think famous actor Kirk D. That happened to him.
I met her numerous times, but haven't in a couple of months.
I could care less about GFE, for that I have the wife.
But god damn that body of hers is a perfect 10!
She is colder, at least in the beginning, but warms up the more she gets to know you. And she does have the "hoodie" vibe to her but I like it cause it's kinda sluty and makes you want to pound it harder.
I'd recommend a visit with her (hope nothing changed drastically in the last couple of months) and start with a 30 min for the first couple of sessions. Oh and the other thing I liked about her is the safety, everything is covered, which I know others here are not fans of. But the risk of bringing something back to the wife is much smaller.
I never understood why would anyone want to daty or kiss any of these high volume girls from STG or BP back in the day. Someone else's dick was in their mouth and pussy 30 min earlier. But to each their own.That's pretty funny shit. Doesn't make any sense, but pretty funny nonetheless!
Hey everyone, Just wanted to ask a quick question some more experienced people may know.
I've checked in to reviews on this site every now and again and wanted to try it out for myself. I drove down Jasper and found a pretty cute SW and was able to signal to her and have her get in my car. She seemed normal walking around, but once inside she was kinda drugged out on something (head rolling and dozed off once or twice). Got a simple BJ that was OK and dropped her off.
A few days later I got an STD infection that I was able to clear up pretty quickly, but made me stay away from ever trying this again.
I just wanted to ask, is having someone super drugged out like that normal? And what are the chances of STDs? Was this just a really unlucky first experience?
Thanks ahead of time for any responses.
Hey everyone, Just wanted to ask a quick question some more experienced people may know.
I've checked in to reviews on this site every now and again and wanted to try it out for myself. I drove down Jasper and found a pretty cute SW and was able to signal to her and have her get in my car. She seemed normal walking around, but once inside she was kinda drugged out on something (head rolling and dozed off once or twice). Got a simple BJ that was OK and dropped her off.
A few days later I got an STD infection that I was able to clear up pretty quickly, but made me stay away from ever trying this again.
I just wanted to ask, is having someone super drugged out like that normal? And what are the chances of STDs? Was this just a really unlucky first experience?
Thanks ahead of time for any responses.Did you go to the clinic and test positive for an actual STD? That said you can catch an STD from anyone (I. E. , online, a bar girl) if you're not using condoms.
As far as picking up SWs, I would seriously avoid picking up SWs that look disheveled and not in their right frame of mind.
Hey everyone, Just wanted to ask a quick question some more experienced people may know.
I've checked in to reviews on this site every now and again and wanted to try it out for myself. I drove down Jasper and found a pretty cute SW and was able to signal to her and have her get in my car. She seemed normal walking around, but once inside she was kinda drugged out on something (head rolling and dozed off once or twice). Got a simple BJ that was OK and dropped her off.
A few days later I got an STD infection that I was able to clear up pretty quickly, but made me stay away from ever trying this again.
I just wanted to ask, is having someone super drugged out like that normal? And what are the chances of STDs? Was this just a really unlucky first experience?
Thanks ahead of time for any responses.When they're acting crazy, it's not always from being drugged out. Many times, it's fatigue. They do so much crack that it keeps them up for days. A girl in Florida who gave great head was passing out with my dick in her mouth. She'd wake up, bob her head a few times, and zonk back out. She'd also snore a bit still with my dick in her mouth. It was amusing.
As for STD's, it's simple math. Those who are the most promiscuous have a greater chance of catching an STD. You don't often get much more promiscuous than a hooker.
Param Ahmad
10-28-18, 15:31
Either the Pasante Unique condom with the skirt at the base of the penis or the FC2 female condom with the wide ring that stays on the outside of the woman's body provide much better protection from sexually transmitted diseases / infections (STDs / STIs) than standard male condoms that leave much of the base of the penis exposed, because some STDs / STIs (such as syphilis, HPV / condyloma / genital warts, and herpes) pass through skin rather than through the urethra. The Pasante Unique condom probably provides more complete and more reliable protection than a FC2 female condom, either with the inner ring removed or still in place, since during intercourse the outer ring of the FC2 female condom that stays on the outside of the woman's body can get pushed against the base of the penis, allowing a small area of contact between the base of the penis and the woman's vulva. If you remove the inner ring, it is important to use fingers you haven't fingered her with or otherwise contaminated. I found both Pasante Unique and FC2 female condoms for sale today on eBay.
Pasante Unique condoms, https://www.ebay.com/i/253512451666?chn=ps..
Unique Plus Condomcard, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm8WFz-b8nM..
How To Use a Female Condom (English Sub) ★ AlbatrozStudio, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P85c9lqCGfc 7,813,904 views as of 10/28/2018!
How to Use Your FC2 Female Condom, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZOCdmnvmc..
These videos will answer most of your questions.
These pictures will help you identify the Pasante Unique and FC2 female condoms. If everybody used them, we could probably see the end of STDs / STIs within a generation or two.
Param Ahmad
10-29-18, 00:52
I had unprotected sex with a regular. I haven't had sex with anyone else in several months. I got tested on Tuesday, results came back negative for 10 different STDs. But I'm still a little sore after I piss and there is a white substance that I can force out of my dick in the morning. Any ideas gents.It's probably gonorrhea. Testing negative doesn't prove you don't have it because you can get false-negative test results. It might take days or even months for symptoms to appear, and in many people gonorrhea has no symptoms, but you can transmit it despite having no symptoms. You should have yourself re-tested. There are news reports about a hard-to-treat strain of gonorrhea that is resistant to currently available antibiotics. Washing your penis while urinating in a shower immediately after exposure (I. E, sex) reduces your risk by pissing and washing away the bacterium.
See WebMD, https://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/do-i-have-gonorrhea#1 :
How Do I Know If I Have Gonorrhea?
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Gonorrhea symptoms normally show up between 1 and 10 days after you get the infection. Some people dont see any symptoms until after they've had the infection for months. Others -- usually women -- may never have symptoms at all.See also the Center for Disease Control web site: https://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/stdfact-gonorrhea.htm.
Nw Pounder
11-06-18, 00:09
I was with my regular about a week back. I did not have sex, but was dry humping (both naked). My uncircumcised penis was having thrush for the past 3-4 days and since yesterday the head was tingling. Today, the head is burning and also my buttock hole too. Is this could be balanitis or any other STD? Appreciate all inputs and recommendation. Thanks.
Param Ahmad
11-07-18, 17:21
I was with my regular about a week back. I did not have sex, but was dry humping (both naked). My uncircumcised penis was having thrush for the past 3-4 days and since yesterday the head was tingling. Today, the head is burning and also my buttock hole too. Is this could be balanitis or any other STD? Appreciate all inputs and recommendation. Thanks.Balanitis is a new word for me. I don't recall ever hearing about it before. Here is an article about it:
https://www.drscabies.com/blog/home-remedies-on-how-to-treat-balanitis-naturally/
Nw Pounder
11-08-18, 16:18
Balanitis is a new word for me. I don't recall ever hearing about it before. Here is an article about it:
https://www.drscabies.com/blog/home-remedies-on-how-to-treat-balanitis-naturally/Thanks, I don't know the % chances of getting an STD by dry humping. I have applied Yeast cream for couple of days, hoping it will be alright!
John Dough
11-08-18, 20:49
Either the Pasante Unique condom with the skirt at the base of the penis or the FC2 female condom with the wide ring that stays on the outside of the woman's body provide much better protection from sexually transmitted diseases / infections (STDs / STIs) than standard male condoms that leave much of the base of the penis exposed, because some STDs / STIs (such as syphilis, HPV / condyloma / genital warts, and herpes) pass through skin rather than through the urethra.Here is a link to the Unique Plus condom with skirted bottom.
https://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-plus-brand-new-condoms-best-reviews
The material used to make the Unique condoms is similar to a plastic bag in the produce section of a grocery store. It isn't very stretchy, so sizing is important. They are a bit wider than most condoms, so they may fit loosely on narrow penises, leaving the material wrinkly. Although they are very thin, they still remove the sensation of friction. Some people say they feel like wearing nothing, but I disagree. The female condom allows the man to feel friction, giving a much improved sensation. Adding extra lube to the penis helps the FC2 to provide a better experience for the man.
John Dough
11-08-18, 21:17
Washing your penis while urinating in a shower immediately after exposure (I. E, sex) reduces your risk by pissing and washing away the bacterium.
I wonder if products that prevent UTIs would also reduce the risk of STDs.
https://www.healthline.com/health/d-mannose-for-uti
"E. Coli bacteria cause 90 percent of UTIs. Once these bacteria enter the urinary tract, they latch on to cells, grow, and cause infection. Researchers think that D-mannose works for a UTI by preventing these bacteria from latching on".
http://tipsdiscover.com/health/herbal-antibiotics-the-localized-non-systemics-juniper/
"Alcohol extracts of juniper show activity against 57 strains of 24 bacterial species. Juniper is also active against SARS coronavirus, and herpes simplex 1. Use the berries for urinary tract infections".
John Dough
11-08-18, 21:39
There are news reports about a hard-to-treat strain of gonorrhea that is resistant to currently available antibiotics."Against Drug-Resistant Bacteria, Nature's Medicines Offer Our Best Hope. Stephen Harrod Buhner is the author of Herbal Antivirals, Herbal Antibiotics".
https://www.storey.com/article/stephen-buhner-against-drug-resistan/
"Bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics rather easily. Plant antibacterials, because they contain hundreds to thousands of compounds, do not lead to resistance in bacteria. Cryptolepis: a broad spectrum, systemic antibacterial, effective for MRSA, C-diff, CRE, and gonorrhea".
I stopped by Planned Parenthood and had not so great experience. I did gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis testing and clinician gave me a 1 gram z-pack. For all these it cost me 265. That's the cost of an hour long GFE session in a K-agency. I think the clinician fee of 125 is the most worthless piece. She talked for less than 2 min and didn't even pull down my pant and check my junk and just gave me a z-pack and send me on my way.
So I had a GFE session with a Japanese and Korean mix girl. We did use condom, but there were BBBJ, DFK and bit of DATY. Afterwards I started to feel "discomfort" around penile area. It's not burning, not rush or bump or wart, no discharge all these typical STD symptoms. It's like a muscle in pelvic floor that stretch from penis to anus that's sore. I guess sore is the best feeling to describe it. I don't know if this just some psychological thing or is it really STD, but it won't go away after 2 weeks. So, I decided to get it tested.
Searched around this forum, seems for STD testing, there are couple options: one is that place an online order and wait for them mail you a test kit, and you do test at home and send it back. The other is have an online chat, a teledoc send prescription to a local lab and you go to local lab and get urine and / or blood sample. The other option is planned parenthood and after thinking it over, I decided to go with PP.
When I get there, the door is locked and there is intercom at door. You must have an appointment to get in. There are quite few people in waiting room. It's kind of weird to see what type of people will go into PP.
The receptionist asked about my insurance and income stuff. Even I have insurance, I told them I don't. Actually I just got laid off and was on UI, but with all the people in waiting room I feel nervous and just told her I will pay myself with cash. Maybe that's the mistake and the visit cost me that much. Did you guys just lie on the form and PP will not actually do a full financial investigation? From people wrote on this forum, it seems like a free clinic. But for me, I think 265 is too expensive for the minimum level of medical attention and treatment. I am even thinking of laying off this hobby for a while or only go full covered from start to finish.
Anyone has any better approach to get STD testing?
NoviceNewb
11-11-18, 14:00
First time poster, long time reader and supporter of the hobby.
Quick question though, am I the only married guy still boning his wife? Seems like everyone is getting BBBJs all the time and I'm rather too careful or too scared to get one out of fear of my wife catching something.
How do you guys do it?
Also why does no one use erotic monkey?
DeaconBlues
11-11-18, 22:42
First time poster, long time reader and supporter of the hobby.
Quick question though, am I the only married guy still boning his wife? Seems like everyone is getting BBBJs all the time and I'm rather too careful or too scared to get one out of fear of my wife catching something.
How do you guys do it?
Also why does no one use erotic monkey?For what it's worth, I think you're wise to have only CBJ. Even if you never catch anything else, that's a really easy way to transmit HPV to either party. And the site you mention started a more restrictive subscription policy.
NoviceNewb
11-12-18, 11:18
Thank you for that. That does make me feel better for taking the precations I take. You just never know anymore, and I like to be as careful as possible. Just seemed like maybe I was missing out on some untapped clean reservoir or something. LOL.
For what it's worth, I think you're wise to have only CBJ. Even if you never catch anything else, that's a really easy way to transmit HPV to either party. And the site you mention started a more restrictive subscription policy.
Ace Johnson
11-13-18, 10:31
First time poster, long time reader and supporter of the hobby.
Quick question though, am I the only married guy still boning his wife? Seems like everyone is getting BBBJs all the time and I'm rather too careful or too scared to get one out of fear of my wife catching something.
How do you guys do it?
Also why does no one use erotic monkey?My man, you are absolutely correct to go CBJ only. On the other hand, CBJ only is a deal breaker for me. While you can contract std's from unprotected oral, it's very unlikely according to cdc and other sites seem to echo this. I'm not suggesting you do this, I'm just stating how I do it. I have had CFS offered to me on more than a few occasions and always turn that down as any std she might have is just about guaranteed to transfer that way. In my 9+ years I've never brought any presents home.
Erotic Monkey is a shit site. They steel reviews from other sites. How do I know? I wrote over 50 reviews on TER and some 6 or 7 of them have been posted on them just as though I wrote them there and some have been edited if I said something like " I told her I'd leave her a review on TER", well that sentence was certainly deleted. Having said that, them is a resource and in this post fosta / sesta times, I'll take any resource I can get. You can write a review there and get 1 week unlimited access.
Just my $. 02 worth, Ace.
I am not sure where to post this, so I am posting this question (s) here. I am a newbie to this hobby so please don't be to hard on my ignorance. In your dreams, are there any concerns about STD? How do you dream of protection besides a condom (which they say is no guarantee of not contracting STD's). Are there any other safe measures to use when dreaming of FS?
Can you veteran dreamers give us newbies some input on how you handle protection from STD's?
For what it's worth, I think you're wise to have only CBJ. Even if you never catch anything else, that's a really easy way to transmit HPV to either party. And the site you mention started a more restrictive subscription policy.HPV vaccine should be mandatory for all boys and girls. I don't give a shit about moral judgments on it. It's saving many lives and that's all that matters.
Member #6007
11-13-18, 11:46
I stopped by Planned Parenthood and had not so great experience. I did gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis testing and clinician gave me a 1 gram z-pack. For all these it cost me 265. That's the cost of an hour long GFE session in a K-agency. I think the clinician fee of 125 is the most worthless piece. She talked for less than 2 min and didn't even pull down my pant and check my junk and just gave me a z-pack and send me on my way.
So I had a GFE session with a Japanese and Korean mix girl. We did use condom, but there were BBBJ, DFK and bit of DATY. Afterwards I started to feel "discomfort" around penile area. It's not burning, not rush or bump or wart, no discharge all these typical STD symptoms. It's like a muscle in pelvic floor that stretch from penis to anus that's sore. I guess sore is the best feeling to describe it. I don't know if this just some psychological thing or is it really STD, but it won't go away after 2 weeks. So, I decided to get it tested.
Searched around this forum, seems for STD testing, there are couple options: one is that place an online order and wait for them mail you a test kit, and you do test at home and send it back. The other is have an online chat, a teledoc send prescription to a local lab and you go to local lab and get urine and / or blood sample. The other option is planned parenthood and after thinking it over, I decided to go with PP.
When I get there, the door is locked and there is intercom at door. You must have an appointment to get in. There are quite few people in waiting room. It's kind of weird to see what type of people will go into PP.
The receptionist asked about my insurance and income stuff. Even I have insurance, I told them I don't. Actually I just got laid off and was on UI, but with all the people in waiting room I feel nervous and just told her I will pay myself with cash. Maybe that's the mistake and the visit cost me that much. Did you guys just lie on the form and PP will not actually do a full financial investigation? From people wrote on this forum, it seems like a free clinic. But for me, I think 265 is too expensive for the minimum level of medical attention and treatment. I am even thinking of laying off this hobby for a while or only go full covered from start to finish.
Anyone has any better approach to get STD testing?Your county health department has free testing for the big 3 that you had tested at Planned Parenthood. You can get more complete testing by using STD check.com.
The ten test panel is about $200. HSV1,2 ; HIV, Hep A, B, C and more.
Timberwolf
11-13-18, 11:56
I am not sure where to post this, so I am posting this question (s) here. I am a newbie to this hobby so please don't be to hard on my ignorance. In your dreams, are there any concerns about STD? How do you dream of protection besides a condom (which they say is no guarantee of not contracting STD's). Are there any other safe measures to use when dreaming of FS?
Can you veteran dreamers give us newbies some input on how you handle protection from STD's?Always bring your own covers. Some ladies can't seem to keep them "in stock" and may use the lack of same as an excuse to deny you full service or let you go raw. Having your own cover makes it a LOT easier to insist on one when she's got your dong in her had ready to wiggle it in raw. A lady going out for or sending you out for covers (after you surrender the donation) is usually a setup to be ripped off.
If the lady that answers the door is covered in sores and / or appears to need a shower. Bail.
If you shave your junk, don't do so the same day you will be out to play. Anything you can do to minimize contact with bodily fluids and breaks in the skin are advisable.
If you are getting your dates from Skip The Games (STG), you will encounter ladies that will do you raw w / o even asking. VERY hard to resist. So be prepared for that.
NoviceNewb
11-13-18, 14:09
You mentioned that when offered CFS you turn it down as it's a guarantee to contract something. I'm imagining that was a typo? Just want to make sure I'm reading this right.
I have had CFS offered to me on more than a few occasions and always turn that down as any std she might have is just about guaranteed to transfer that way. In my 9+ years I've never brought any presents home
First time poster, long time reader and supporter of the hobby.
Quick question though, am I the only married guy still boning his wife? Seems like everyone is getting BBBJs all the time and I'm rather too careful or too scared to get one out of fear of my wife catching something.
How do you guys do it?
Also why does no one use erotic monkey?Since you are married, and still "boning your wife", LOL, nobody can fault you for erroring on the side of caution. I'm divorced, so don't have the concerns you rightfully have. I opt for BBBJs. I feel that a BJ with a cover is like taking a shower in a raincoat. But like I said, I don't have the concerns you do. I also get tested at least twice a year at the health Dept, for everything. And they always ask if you've given or received oral. Don't know how rare or common it is, but they say that gonerreia and clamedia as well as syphlis can be transmitted via oral. So IMHO, you are sacrificing a little pleasure for a lot of piece of mind.
Your county health department has free testing for the big 3 that you had tested at Planned Parenthood. You can get more complete testing by using STD check.com.
The ten test panel is about $200. HSV1,2 ; HIV, Hep A, B, C and more.I went to my county health department and on their website: "The Health Department does not provide free STI services. We either bill a client's insurer or charge a sliding scale fee if a client is uninsured. " Looks like same type of deal as Planned Parenthood. Unless you lie, you won't get free test.
I think 10 panel is bit overblown. There is no HPV test for men. If no genital wart, no need to test herpes. If Herpes is positive, if no symptoms there is nothing to do. HIV can get self instant test from walmart. Syphilis is very rare these days. I think highest risk is the 3 I tested.
The cheapest I found so far is with LemonAid, you paid $25 for a teledoc, then $50 for go to lab and get tested. But it's only for gono and clap. I haven't used it yet, anyone tried LemonAid already?
Ace Johnson
11-14-18, 01:07
You mentioned that when offered CFS you turn it down as it's a guarantee to contract something. I'm imagining that was a typo? Just want to make sure I'm reading this right.You are correct, sir. I posted that with my phone. Looking at it there are a couple other typo's, or just plain ole screw ups.
HuntLadys29
11-14-18, 06:48
I recently went and got tested, the place I went to was a walk in health care. I told them I wanted to get tested and the doctor came in gave me 8 pills and said take these. He said if I had anything it would kill everything. I didn't even know if I had anything I just wanted to be sure because I hadn't been tested in a while. Everything came up negative but better to be safe than sorry. My best friend said one of his girlfriends had trichimonous he said the doctor gave her a prescription with extra pills for him since he likely had it also. I read where more doctors are doing this because some people have a stigma about getting tested and it keeps reinfection down. HL29.
This STD things is really turning into a nightmare. I am seriously considering laying off this hobby for good.
I went to planned parenthood in hope of total anonymity and privacy, but they have to take your DL to take you in. K, that's fine, at least they are not in my regular medical circle. But today I received email from labcorp notifying my test result is available on patient portal. I logged in and there it is, all the STD testing and results. I am so pissed that I thought PP just call you about result. Now it's posted on labcorp website, and labcorp keep a super long history of all the reports. All the way back to 2011.
Anyone know if labcorp would take a report offline based on user request?
Is a handjob safe? If she used saliva. I can't remember if she licked her hand or not. Recieved a handjob 8 days ago and worried I got something.
Member #6007
11-22-18, 22:37
I went to my county health department and on their website: "The Health Department does not provide free STI services. We either bill a client's insurer or charge a sliding scale fee if a client is uninsured. " Looks like same type of deal as Planned Parenthood. Unless you lie, you won't get free test.
I think 10 panel is bit overblown. There is no HPV test for men. If no genital wart, no need to test herpes. If Herpes is positive, if no symptoms there is nothing to do. HIV can get self instant test from walmart. Syphilis is very rare these days. I think highest risk is the 3 I tested.
The cheapest I found so far is with LemonAid, you paid $25 for a teledoc, then $50 for go to lab and get tested. But it's only for gono and clap. I haven't used it yet, anyone tried LemonAid already?Which County charged? Macomb at Warren location was free without lying or using insurance.
You seem to connect genital warts with HSV herpes tests. HPV and HSV are not the same virus or test. Men are not typically tested for HPV. You ar correct there is "nothing to do" for herpes as far as a cure. This is why HD and many docs skip it.
This is a guideline from CDC about STD treatment.
https://www.cdc.gov/std/tg2015/default.htm
Looks like it's better to stock up some z-pack, doxycycline and in case of any sympton just go ahead take it. The useless clinic people just going to do the same anyway.
Which County charged? Macomb at Warren location was free without lying or using insurance.
You seem to connect genital warts with HSV herpes tests. HPV and HSV are not the same virus or test. Men are not typically tested for HPV. You ar correct there is "nothing to do" for herpes as far as a cure. This is why HD and many docs skip it.I guess each county is different. That's out of my control. I think best is to avoid go to any clinic and just take z-pack, doxycycline etc yourself if you feel anything wrong. Either county health department or planned parenthood will still leave paper trail.
I don't understand your point about HPV and HSV.
I recently went and got tested, the place I went to was a walk in health care. I told them I wanted to get tested and the doctor came in gave me 8 pills and said take these. He said if I had anything it would kill everything. I didn't even know if I had anything I just wanted to be sure because I hadn't been tested in a while. Everything came up negative but better to be safe than sorry. My best friend said one of his girlfriends had trichimonous he said the doctor gave her a prescription with extra pills for him since he likely had it also. I read where more doctors are doing this because some people have a stigma about getting tested and it keeps reinfection down. HL29.Hmm, which walk in health care you took the test? What 8 pills the doctor give it to you? Can you be more specific?
Is a handjob safe? If she used saliva. I can't remember if she licked her hand or not. Recieved a handjob 8 days ago and worried I got something.I know of nothing that will transfer from simple skin-to-skin contact.
A couple months ago, a pretty SW hopped in. She'd changed her hair, so I didn't recognize her right away. Then I realized she was a lousy lay. I told her sorry, I only have five bucks. I thought this would get her out really fast. Instead she said she'd give me a handjob for $5. I laughed and said if I wanted that, I could jerk myself off for free. She didn't like my response, but she got out.
HuntLadys29
12-04-18, 06:11
Hmm, which walk in health care you took the test? What 8 pills the doctor give it to you? Can you be more specific?I went to an urgent care I should have went to the VA you also can go to the health clinic. I know the pills were for gonnareah chlymidia I think trichemonis just the main. The doctor was cool I pissed in a jar first took the pills and a shot I was kind of bummed when the test came back negative because I thought the test results should have come back first but that's the way they did it. HL29.
Is a handjob safe? If she used saliva. I can't remember if she licked her hand or not. Recieved a handjob 8 days ago and worried I got something.If you are worried about getting a present from a hand job, perhaps this hobby isn't for you.
I know of nothing that will transfer from simple skin-to-skin contact.
A couple months ago, a pretty SW hopped in. She'd changed her hair, so I didn't recognize her right away. Then I realized she was a lousy lay. I told her sorry, I only have five bucks. I thought this would get her out really fast. Instead she said she'd give me a handjob for $5. I laughed and said if I wanted that, I could jerk myself off for free. She didn't like my response, but she got out.Funny thing is 5 is what I paid LOL. Saliva doesn't pose a risk?
If you are worried about getting a present from a hand job, perhaps this hobby isn't for you.You sir, are correct. I realized this after my experience. I looked online and get conflicting info on saliva and HJ.
I am not sure where to post this, so I am posting this question (s) here. I am a newbie to this hobby so please don't be to hard on my ignorance. In your dreams, are there any concerns about STD? How do you dream of protection besides a condom (which they say is no guarantee of not contracting STD's). Are there any other safe measures to use when dreaming of FS?
Can you veteran dreamers give us newbies some input on how you handle protection from STD's?Latex condoms will protect you from STDs as long as they do not break or slip off during intercourse.
To keep a condom from slipping off, do not apply lube before applying the condom. Also, roll the condom all the way down the shaft of the penis. If lube is applied to the penis and if the condom is not rolled all the way down the shaft, the condom is in danger of slipping off during intercourse.
Some of the thinner "bare skin" condoms have a tendency to break under stress. So, make sure to use lubricant, when needed. You should avoid positions that put stress on the condom. If you use lube, it is unlikely that the condom will break.
So, use latex condoms, and protect against breakage and slipping off.
After the act, I suggest bringing wet wipes and soap with you. Use wet wipes for the initial clean up. Then, if you are able to use the restroom, clean your penis, scrotum and so on with soap and water. Wash, rinse and repeat. I tend to bring a small bottle of castile soap with me.
Not applying a small amount of lube to the head of your dick (very small amount) is more likely to cause a condom to fail. I couldn't even begin to count the number of hookers I've fucked in my life and I have never once had a condom slip off.
Also don't forget to unroll it a bit before putting it on your dick.
You should research before posting.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-to-put-a-condom-on
A2
Not applying a small amount of lube to the head of your dick (very small amount) is more likely to cause a condom to fail. I couldn't even begin to count the number of hookers I've fucked in my life and I have never once had a condom slip off.
Also don't forget to unroll it a bit before putting it on your dick.
You should research before posting.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-to-put-a-condom-on
A2Well, I do not want to disagree with A2, [Deleted by Admin]
Then don't. I don't judge but after reading what you wrote you may as well go in bare.
I'm not judging, it's your dick use it as you want so long as the chick signs on as well.
A2
As A2 points out, putting a little lube on the head before you put on the condom can help prevent breakage. Also, using lube in general can prevent breakage. I have had a couple of "Bare Skin" ones break on me, but I was not using lube.
Generally, latex condoms afford protection from STDs. But, if you want to be protected from STDs, you need to follow the directions on how to put on a condom correctly. Here is a good link: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-to-put-a-condom-on.
I'm in sales so I travel a far bit by car. My business day ended in South Jersey so I swung by the Broadway stroll in Camden and counted just a single SW at about 6 PM and she was so bundled up that you couldn't tell what you are getting.
So on my way home, I checked out Keningston at about 6:30 and there had to be at least 5 SW that were all options. I made the swoop on one, told me her name was Dawn, no phone, on Sargent Street and we were off the races. Standard pricing $. 2 for a BBBJ and I was on way.
I just love the free enterprise system.Just wanted to post again in effort to be responsible to the lurkers who read this because it's not all fun and games.
Yes, in Kensington you can find girls to have fun with, but this area isn't Bangkok or Amsterdam where girls get tested and get into this line of work specifically to support themselves or their poor families somewhere.
In Kensenton the SW are primarily drug addicts (many of them are even homeless even though they don't look like it) so you need to be careful! Not going to elaborate but a LE source told me personally that HIV floats around in Kensenton with the SWs and I remember one girl telling me about a SW who had it.
I seen with my own eyes a girl who I bought about 2 weeks worth of syringes and rubbing alcohol for her to only give it away (or sell it) and keep using the same dirty bent syringe that she was using for weeks. Another gal I know who works the ave almost died of a blood infection that went to her heart because of shooting up. These just ain't the kind of gals you want to go bareback with and for me I don't even do any kind of intercourse with any of them.
To each his own and I'm not here to judge but I'm just telling you all what I do and to just warn lurkers reading this thread that it's not all fun and games.
As far as BBBJ it's much safer but you still need to watch out. Many of these gals have very poor oral hygiene which is why many of them have missing or black teeth. Make sure you pee afterwards and you flush your body out with drinking plenty of water and cranberry juice. Cranberry juice also helps to keep bacteria from sticking to the lining of your urethra or something like that.
Just wanted to post again in effort to be responsible to the lurkers who read this because it's not all fun and games.
Yes, in Kensington you can find girls to have fun with, but this area isn't Bangkok or Amsterdam where girls get tested and get into this line of work specifically to support themselves or their poor families somewhere.
In Kensenton the SW are primarily drug addicts (many of them are even homeless even though they don't look like it) so you need to be careful! Not going to elaborate but a LE source told me personally that HIV floats around in Kensenton with the SWs and I remember one girl telling me about a SW who had it.
I seen with my own eyes a girl who I bought about 2 weeks worth of syringes and rubbing alcohol for her to only give it away (or sell it) and keep using the same dirty bent syringe that she was using for weeks. Another gal I know who works the ave almost died of a blood infection that went to her heart because of shooting up. These just ain't the kind of gals you want to go bareback with and for me I don't even do any kind of intercourse with any of them.
To each his own and I'm not here to judge but I'm just telling you all what I do and to just warn lurkers reading this thread that it's not all fun and games.
As far as BBBJ it's much safer but you still need to watch out. Many of these gals have very poor oral hygiene which is why many of them have missing or black teeth. Make sure you pee afterwards and you flush your body out with drinking plenty of water and cranberry juice. Cranberry juice also helps to keep bacteria from sticking to the lining of your urethra or something like that.Of course there is HIV out there. Almost all of the girls on the Ave are homeless or close to homeless but the chances of catching the virus is slim for hetero males. These are the common scientific stats " about 4 cases of HIV transmission per every 10,000 acts of vaginal sex with a woman who is HIV positive) ".
Buster Hymen
12-23-18, 01:18
Just wanted to post again in effort to be responsible to the lurkers who read this because it's not all fun and games.
Yes, in Kensington you can find girls to have fun with, but this area isn't Bangkok or Amsterdam where girls get tested and get into this line of work specifically to support themselves or their poor families somewhere.
In Kensenton the SW are primarily drug addicts (many of them are even homeless even though they don't look like it) so you need to be careful! Not going to elaborate but a LE source told me personally that HIV floats around in Kensenton with the SWs and I remember one girl telling me about a SW who had it.
I seen with my own eyes a girl who I bought about 2 weeks worth of syringes and rubbing alcohol for her to only give it away (or sell it) and keep using the same dirty bent syringe that she was using for weeks. Another gal I know who works the ave almost died of a blood infection that went to her heart because of shooting up. These just ain't the kind of gals you want to go bareback with and for me I don't even do any kind of intercourse with any of them.
To each his own and I'm not here to judge but I'm just telling you all what I do and to just warn lurkers reading this thread that it's not all fun and games.
As far as BBBJ it's much safer but you still need to watch out. Many of these gals have very poor oral hygiene which is why many of them have missing or black teeth. Make sure you pee afterwards and you flush your body out with drinking plenty of water and cranberry juice. Cranberry juice also helps to keep bacteria from sticking to the lining of your urethra or something like that.Your information is not correct. While it is true that BBBJ has a lower risk of spreading HIV, the risk for an cut male in contracting HIV thru vaginal sex is really low as the other poster said. However, your risk of catching the common STD's like gonorrhea and chlamydia are far, far higher via BBBJ. These girls' pussies are far cleaner than their mouths.
I refuse to get BBBJ for this reason and go BBFS exclusively.
Your information is not correct. While it is true that BBBJ has a lower risk of spreading HIV, the risk for an cut male in contracting HIV thru vaginal sex is really low as the other poster said. However, your risk of catching the common STD's like gonorrhea and chlamydia are far, far higher via BBBJ. These girls' pussies are far cleaner than their mouths.
I refuse to get BBBJ for this reason and go BBFS exclusively.I had am awful experience from someone who appeared on the outside clean, good hygiene and well kept, even had all of her teeth (LOL). But seriously. 2-3 days later I had a problem after a short oral session. Then two weeks to heel completely. It was awful. Never again, always covered.
Now I will say, that I moved from SW, BP and CL to the AMP's. With that said, at least I would like the risk is lower. I certainly believe this. They are safer and less drama. I am paranoid, now I travel with my DCK Dick Cleanup Kit, in the event my little head takes control. I never want to go through that again.
Your information is not correct. While it is true that BBBJ has a lower risk of spreading HIV, the risk for an cut male in contracting HIV thru vaginal sex is really low as the other poster said. However, your risk of catching the common STD's like gonorrhea and ily2231@aim.com are far, far higher via BBBJ. These girls' pussies are far cleaner than their mouths.
I refuse to get BBBJ for this reason and go BBFS exclusively.To each is his own. No judgment. Yes, you're probably right in that a pussy is "cleaner" than a mouth that is full of bacteria but from all the medical literature I have read there are no known cases of HIV transmission from oral sex.
And yes, gonorrhea and clymadia can be transmitted from unprotected oral sex. I have contacted it once from an online escort and was treated at a clinic.
ShootingBlanks
12-29-18, 18:41
Since we are on the subject I think I will throw the question open. Have any of you actually caught anything ever?
I have been having bareback sex about 80% of the time since the 90's. Worst I have ever gotten is a sneeze.
Then again I have never put my junk in any obviously diseased holes. In fact I have only seen photos never encountered one up front.
OakRaiders89
12-30-18, 00:03
Since we are on the subject I think I will throw the question open. Have any of you actually caught anything ever?
I have been having bareback sex about 80% of the time since the 90's. Worst I have ever gotten is a sneeze.
Then again I have never put my junk in any obviously diseased holes. In fact I have only seen photos never encountered one up front.I've only bare backed 2 hoes. Cristy2681 and kendra from backpage but this is the first time I've gotten something that worries me. I'm going to PP on Wednesday to get a full std test.
ShootingBlanks
12-30-18, 00:09
Even though I've never caught anything I get tested regularly. To me its just part of the price of admission.
I've only bare backed 2 hoes. Cristy2681 and kendra from backpage but this is the first time I've gotten something that worries me. I'm going to PP on Wednesday to get a full std test.
BlueDog253
12-30-18, 00:45
Since we are on the subject I think I will throw the question open. Have any of you actually caught anything ever?
I have been having bareback sex about 80% of the time since the 90's. Worst I have ever gotten is a sneeze.
Then again I have never put my junk in any obviously diseased holes. In fact I have only seen photos never encountered one up front.I've had the clap 3 times in the last 2 years. The last time I had the clap, I had to take the z pack 3 times. For the guy saying that you banged cristi bb, or any of you guys that want to: she has hep c. She does not look healthy at all.
Jackob Lee
01-01-19, 05:19
So, I don't think I'm the only one here that does this. Does anyone go hardcore on the disinfectant after having a dream? Like I am typing this with clorox bleach on my nob, trying to make sure I kill whatever may be lurking. Hell, on the drive I poured hand sanatizer on me nob, shit burned like hell, but I'd rather burn for a few minutes than burn for my life. Better hyper paranoid than sorry.
Oh, and dreamed lexi, demons present and on display the moment we finished (the classic inhaling rock), but very submissive to the customer. BBBJ cim qv. 4 damage 15 min kinda watched the clock but not really. It was fun and easy (though definitely sketch), but probably won't visit again.
So, I don't think I'm the only one here that does this. Does anyone go hardcore on the disinfectant after having a dream? Like I am typing this with clorox bleach on my nob, trying to make sure I kill whatever may be lurking. Hell, on the drive I poured hand sanatizer on me nob, shit burned like hell, but I'd rather burn for a few minutes than burn for my life. Better hyper paranoid than sorry.
Oh, and dreamed lexi, demons present and on display the moment we finished (the classic inhaling rock), but very submissive to the customer. BBBJ cim qv. 4 damage 15 min kinda watched the clock but not really. It was fun and easy (though definitely sketch), but probably won't visit again.I do this. Well, not the bleach, but the sanitizer. Yeah, it stings a little, but better than getting a gift that won't stop giving.
I tend to freak myself out after a dream. My worry used to be that I would get a girl pregnant (like a FB or a random civvy or a SB who doesn't ride so many cocks that she couldn't figure out who fertilized her), even though I use condoms religiously. Now that I've gotten a vasectomy my brain spins about STDs. I still use condoms religiously and don't do BBBJ, or BB anything, but there are a couple of things like herpes and warts you can get thru skin to skin contact in areas that aren't protected by the condom. So far, either by luck or because of my hygiene routines I've been lucky and never gotten anything.
I've done a lot of reading and it seems that the herpes virus is pretty fragile and is destroyed by sanitizer pretty easily (not once you're infected, of course, but when it's just on a "surface", like in pussy juice on your cock). It's a lipid coated virus and the alcohol dissolves the coating and the virus is no longer able to function. Warts viruses, on the other hand are generally very, very durable and sanitizer doesn't affect them, unfortunately. Your bleach trick might kill warts, but at what strength and how long does it need to be exposed to bleach before dying? I worry about putting that shit on my junk. The skin is thin and sensitive there, bleach may do more damage than good.
I haven't read anything about using sanitizer as a preventive measure. No idea if it prevents infection by herpes virus that's fresh on the skin and hasn't "burrowed" into a cell yet, but the logic makes sense to me. If there is anyone with actual info in this, I'd love to hear it.
Kwag.
So, I don't think I'm the only one here that does this. Does anyone go hardcore on the disinfectant after having a dream? Like I am typing this with clorox bleach on my nob, trying to make sure I kill whatever may be lurking. Hell, on the drive I poured hand sanatizer on me nob, shit burned like hell, but I'd rather burn for a few minutes than burn for my life. Better hyper paranoid than sorry.
Oh, and dreamed lexi, demons present and on display the moment we finished (the classic inhaling rock), but very submissive to the customer. BBBJ cim qv. 4 damage 15 min kinda watched the clock but not really. It was fun and easy (though definitely sketch), but probably won't visit again.I keep a bottle of Hibiclens in my car to clean-up with after every encounter. I found the following description online, and it seems to kill just about everything:
Hibiclens soap is an antiseptic, antimicrobial skin cleanser used by medical professionals before surgical procedures and by patients before a surgical procedure. This special soap cleans the surgeon's own skin as well as their patients'. Germs are killed on contact, with continuous effectiveness for up to 24 hours. It is essential that all germs are eradicated on the skin surfaces of surgeons, operating room attendants, and the patient in order to help prevent postoperative infections.
The benefits of Hibiclens soap include:
Antiseptic activity plus a persistent, long-lasting antimicrobial effect.
Rapid bactericidal activity, fighting a range of microorganisms.
Ideal for skin preparation pre-surgery and as a surgical scrub.
Kills fungi, viruses and bacteria.
Continues to kill germs for up to 24 hours after use.
Gentle on the skin of both healthcare professionals and patients, even when used frequently.
I keep a bottle of Hibiclens in my car to clean-up with after every encounter. I found the following description online, and it seems to kill just about everything,Of course, there is no substitute for using a latex condom, and apply it properly. So, this clean up talk is an additional measure.
Hibiclens is the best. It is a soap, and you use it just like you would any soap. Wash, rinse, repeat. http://hibiclens.com/retail.
If Hibiclens is not available, try another soap. I use liquid castile soap. https://draxe.com/castile-soap/.
Mouthwash or diluted alcohol or hand sanatizer are OK, but uncomfortable. And, not my first choice.
I carry flushable wipes for quick clean ups. https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/cottonelle-flushable-wipes But, I carry soap and water also. I always make time to use the soap and water in addition to the wipes.
P.S.: If you are going to do BB, then it is a good idea to piss shortly after intercourse (in addition to washing up). I like the idea of drinking plenty of water or cranberry juice before a session.
Chlamydia is common. https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats17/tables/1.htm The best protection is a latex condom.
I believe people that shave pubes are at higher risk for herpes. Or if you shave you should wait at least 3 days. . If this is true maybe just wearing boxers and a condom would help. Maybe keeping the skin hydrated would make it less absorbant. Wonder how common herpes is among provider / mongers. I know cold soars are very common so makes me worry that maybe there is something that I don't know.
I do this. Well, not the bleach, but the sanitizer. Yeah, it stings a little, but better than getting a gift that won't stop giving.
I tend to freak myself out after a dream. My worry used to be that I would get a girl pregnant (like a FB or a random civvy or a SB who doesn't ride so many cocks that she couldn't figure out who fertilized her), even though I use condoms religiously. Now that I've gotten a vasectomy my brain spins about STDs. I still use condoms religiously and don't do BBBJ, or BB anything, but there are a couple of things like herpes and warts you can get thru skin to skin contact in areas that aren't protected by the condom. So far, either by luck or because of my hygiene routines I've been lucky and never gotten anything.
I've done a lot of reading and it seems that the herpes virus is pretty fragile and is destroyed by sanitizer pretty easily (not once you're infected, of course, but when it's just on a "surface", like in pussy juice on your cock). It's a lipid coated virus and the alcohol dissolves the coating and the virus is no longer able to function. Warts viruses, on the other hand are generally very, very durable and sanitizer doesn't affect them, unfortunately. Your bleach trick might kill warts, but at what strength and how long does it need to be exposed to bleach before dying? I worry about putting that shit on my junk. The skin is thin and sensitive there, bleach may do more damage than good.
I haven't read anything about using sanitizer as a preventive measure. No idea if it prevents infection by herpes virus that's fresh on the skin and hasn't "burrowed" into a cell yet, but the logic makes sense to me. If there is anyone with actual info in this, I'd love to hear it.
Kwag..
I believe people that shave pubes are at higher risk for herpes. Or if you shave you should wait at least 3 days. . If this is true maybe just wearing boxers and a condom would help. Maybe keeping the skin hydrated would make it less absorbant. Wonder how common herpes is among provider / mongers. I know cold soars are very common so makes me worry that maybe there is something that I don't know.In the past, I used to shave some down there but started thinking the same way you do about the extra protection pubes provide. I always wanted to be presentable for the ladies but fuck that. If longer pubes can, in any way, reduce my chances of catching something, I'll continue to let them grow. The boxer idea is a good one, too.
John Dough
01-09-19, 15:03
I suspect the extra risk from shaving pubes is due to small cuts in the skin rather than the absence of the hair. I've thought about the boxer idea too, but my concern is they may absorb body fluids which will then be transferred to the penis when you take them off. I remember reading another poster's comment that he puts the condom on first, then a dental dam with a hole in the middle (as a gasket), and then the boxers after that. If you take them off in the reverse sequence, that should be safe.
The general idea of adding a protective layer to areas not covered by the condom is a good one. There are some other options available. Coconut oil is water (body fluid) resistant and also antimicrobial. It contains monolaurin, a substance that suppresses the herpes virus. However, it is not compatible with latex condoms. Lauricidin is a concentrated form of monolaurin derived from coconut oil that is meant for oral consumption.
Dimethicone is a silicone material used in skin barrier creams. It bonds with dead skin cells in the outermost skin layer. It is water and body fluid resistant for several hours until the skin cells are shed. It is compatible with latex condoms. It is also found in silicone lubricants.
The active ingredient in Hibiclens is chlorhexidine gluconate, which is also used as an oral rinse for gum disease. There are other brands with this ingredient if that one is not available. In theory it could be used afterwards and also before hand as a preventive measure. It might absorb into the skin providing a protective layer. Use it before dimethicone.
Urinating afterwards to flush out microbes is a reasonable precaution, especially after BBBJ. Drinking water before hand will help. Cranberry juice contains a sugar called mannose that prevents UTI infections, but it only works for E. Coli bacteria.
John Dough
01-09-19, 17:29
Vacuum ED pumps often come with a thin stretchy silicone or rubber disc that is used as a scrotal shield at the base of the penis. Has anyone tried sliding one of these on before putting on the condom? It might substantially increase the amount of skin coverage to protect against herpes and warts. It would be necessary to avoid friction between the two items to prevent the condom from breaking, so they probably shouldn't overlap.
MikeRizzo2020
01-14-19, 07:11
It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.
Sorry that you guys have had these experiences at Euro. I haven't been there in over a year due to a change in address, but I frequented there often when I first started mongering in the Spring of 2017 and I never had an issue then. Of course, "Cookie" wasn't around then and it could be more her doing this than the rest of the Euro staff.
Another reason I may not have had a problem with anyone going through my stuff at Euro is because I never went in the sauna. That seems like a perfect time for a girl to go through your stuff since they know where you are and for how long. That wasn't the reason I didn't take the sauna, to me it just seemed like a waste of time. If I just had a table shower with big tittied Candy soaping my balls and ass crack while rubbing those giant juggs in my face, the absolute last thing I wanted to do is sit in a hot little wooden room by my damn self!
I have been to way too many AMPs than I should have in the past 2 years since I moved here and seen plenty of escorts, too. Thanks to reading up the forum and also doing some thinking with my big head before the little head gets involved, there are some things I do now to avoid problems that I didn't use to do when I first started mongering.
I'm not saying that I have all the answers and please don't think I am trying to be a know-it-all, I just don't like my fellow mongers getting robbed and I'm trying to help. Take it for what it's worth..
It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.The question on STD is a good one. I also wonder about that. Especially so many of the girls are now doing BB. Even BBBJ can be risky.
AlanHeckle
01-14-19, 16:48
It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.Number 1 concern for me too. Problem is several of them have no symptoms so you never know.
PeterHouston
01-16-19, 02:32
The answer is an answer you do not want to hear. The odds are very high of getting an std from an escort / AMP provider offering BBFS. I have seen statistics that 1 in 4 people have an STD. I cannot pomt to a specific study showing this. But look online for the prevalence of STD's. It is high.
The more contacts one has the higher the risk of contacting an STD. Some of these providers see multiple men a day. If they are barebacking you they are barebacking others no matter what they say.
Recently there was a posting on here in the BB thread saying those who had seen a certain provider should be checked. Think about it. If she saw multiple mongers who then saw multiple providers each who then saw more mongers it is easy to figure out the odds are high, especially since many on here see the same providers based on what I have read. Yes one can contact an STD with a BBBJ as well.
Many STDs are asymptomatic in both males and females. So sadly feeling fine is not a guarantee of being free of an STD. Gonorrhea and Chlamydia are fairly easily checked as is syphilis. Trichomoniasis is not easy to diagnose in men. Many people with herpes have only one episode and no more so they do not realize they have HSV. But they can still shed the virus at certain times. HIV and Hepatitis B are around too. Many of these providers have track marks on their arms or elsewhere and / or abscesses on the legs or buttocks indicative of IV drug use. There have been comments about there being multiple women on the track on AA who are HIV positive. Hepatitis goes along with IV drug use too.
The one bright part is that just because one is exposed to an STD (including HIV) does not mean they will come down with the disease. But certainly the more exposure the higher the risk.
Wearing a condom is a good way to protect oneself. Latex ones are the best but none are 100% effective. All experts recommend wearing a condom at all time when engaged in sexual activity.
One provider who has been frequently mentioned on this site as a BB provider (and a gangbang provider) takes something to protect her from getting HIV (or did as of a couple years ago when I was communicating with her). It may help her but not those who are barebacking her. And clearly she is a high volume provider.
There is much reliable information on STD's (STI's) online. Check the CDC website. I suspect webMD is a reliable site as well.
If one has been barebacking one or more escorts then one should be checked for an STD (and possibly treated) before being with your SO or you run the risk of passing along a gift to her.
Hope this answers your questions.
PM if you have any questions / comments.
It's good to know I'm not the only one with SO. I appreciate all the info you provide. The one thing that I do worry about, I know nothing is 100%, is catching a STD. How likely is that? Any idea on how to get around that one? I wear a condom except for blow jobs.
John Dough
01-16-19, 15:18
"Olive Leaf Extract" a book by Dr. Morton Walker.
"Scientific research has now shown that olive leaf extract contains powerful active ingredients, such as oleuropein and calcium elenolate, which actually help destroy viruses, fungi, bacteria, and parasites that cause disease. Although olive leaf extract is capable of killing a broad range of infection-causing agents, it does not harm the beneficial bacteria in your body".
"Now that calcium elenolate / olive leaf extract is available to the public, we can resist the onset of diseases and maladies listed in this table, taken directly from the book": AIDS, Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Hepatitus, Herpes, Syphilis, Urinary Tract Infection, Warts, etc.
http://www.truthaboutlymedisease.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=638
The answer is an answer you do not want to hear. The odds are very high of getting an std from an escort / AMP provider offering BBFS. I have seen statistics that 1 in 4 people have an STD. Misleading. Estimated 20-25% of USA Adults have HSV-2 (herpes simplex B), close to that 1 in 4 total. HSV-2 is twice as common in women as in men. Once you have it, you always have it.
If you count HPV (human papillomavirus) as an std, that's another 25%. It's the most common std, but usually clears up on its own (unlike other stds), and there's a vaccine that women receive because HPV can cause cancer.
The most common remaining std is chlamydia, at about 4% of adults, probably much higher here. It and syphilis spread very easily. You will eventually lose the bet, possibly on your first try.
It's been 6 weeks since I've barebacked a meth addict (status unknown). A full ten second and less of very dry vaginal intercourse with her on top with me finishing inside her.
A week afterwards I started getting flu symptoms: canker sores, muscle weakness, yellow to green mucus, coughs. Symptoms have persisted for the 6 weeks on and off. Still haven't had chills, headaches, fever, or rashes.
Although I live in the cold and could just attribute this to the flu, the canker sores and random muscle aches have been off putting. I've never had canker sores unless I accidentally bit my lip or brush too hard against my gums. The muscle ache\weakness is new. Although I can lift and contract muscles normally, it feels weak like you're in a hypoglycemic state all the time. Then I get these random and mild muscle aches, the worst so far has been jabbing neck pains in the lymph nodes that leads to earaches.
Feels like my luck is finally out. I've been hyper aware of everything HIV since then; I literally sat the airport, looked up and saw a magic johnson ad looking back at me and panicked. What could the transmission route have been in this potential case? Break in the skin or through the urethra? It was so dry I can only assume it was either through skin break or the urethra tip unfolding of the penis.
I'll be testing at the 7 week mark and will update. This post was more a less of #offmychest. Will be interesting to see if I fall into that. 04% odds of transmission.
BigRon1969
02-01-19, 07:30
I was talking to a friend yesterday who has a cousin on SA and her cousin is 19, Latina mix and actually gets $$ per visit. Thing is that her cousin has herpes. I don't know her profile and won't find out. She said that some guys get so worked up about going BB that they just do it anyway. Although pleasurable, you may be bringing back some extra baggage. Stay covered my friends.
It's been 6 weeks since I've barebacked a meth addict (status unknown). A full ten second and less of very dry vaginal intercourse with her on top with me finishing inside her.
A week afterwards I started getting flu symptoms: canker sores, muscle weakness, yellow to green mucus, coughs. Symptoms have persisted for the 6 weeks on and off. Still haven't had chills, headaches, fever, or rashes.
Although I live in the cold and could just attribute this to the flu, the canker sores and random muscle aches have been off putting. I've never had canker sores unless I accidentally bit my lip or brush too hard against my gums. The muscle ache\weakness is new. Although I can lift and contract muscles normally, it feels weak like you're in a hypoglycemic state all the time. Then I get these random and mild muscle aches, the worst so far has been jabbing neck pains in the lymph nodes that leads to earaches.
Feels like my luck is finally out. I've been hyper aware of everything HIV since then; I literally sat the airport, looked up and saw a magic johnson ad looking back at me and panicked. What could the transmission route have been in this potential case? Break in the skin or through the urethra? It was so dry I can only assume it was either through skin break or the urethra tip unfolding of the penis.
I'll be testing at the 7 week mark and will update. This post was more a less of #offmychest. Will be interesting to see if I fall into that. 04% odds of transmission.I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.
Member #6043
02-01-19, 15:38
I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.Also, HIV symptons probably going aren't going to show up that soon. And it can take 6 months to show up on a test. If you have a wife, fuck her as little as possible and definitely do not do anal on her until you get tested.
I was talking to a friend yesterday who has a cousin on SA and her cousin is 19, Latina mix and actually gets $$ per visit. Thing is that her cousin has herpes. I don't know her profile and won't find out. She said that some guys get so worked up about going BB that they just do it anyway. Although pleasurable, you may be bringing back some extra baggage. Stay covered my friends.Condoms do not protect against herpes, you're f*cked.
BlackHawk101
02-02-19, 11:57
Condoms do not protect against herpes, you're f*cked.Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.
I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesn’t slow the guys down. I guess I’m old school. Show me the papers before we’re BB.
Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.
I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.Blackhawk you are much more experienced in this game than I will ever be. But what you just described is parners who are intimate and of course then it is easier to keep from catching the virus. However, we are talking about guys who have sex with random women and women who have sex with random guys not knowing anything about their habits, lifestyles, or kinky shit they may be into. The fear of herpes in one reason I normally stick to bjs and with a select few bbbjs. And there is a certain member I never see a provider he has been with because chances are he has barebacked them.
Member #6535
02-05-19, 21:31
Lisa does not let you CIP? Are we talking about the big titted, redheaded, chubby Lisa? I was under impression CIP with her isavailable to anyone.
Also questiin about Lucy. How does tightness of her box compare to Lily?A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?
DR Monger II
02-06-19, 00:05
A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?There are 109,000 people with HIV in NYC. Just remember that.
Hypothetical situation here.
Lets say someone goes to an Asian massage parlor. Pays 50 for a massage and tips 100. Pretending the masseuse comes in to the room in a very sexy outfit, takes it off, puts a condom on the guy. Sucks and rides him with a condom. Then finishes him with a hand and no condom. What are the std risk levels here? Is it safe for her to wash you down in rubbing alcohol too?
A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?I rmember being a naive kid who started out never expecting BBFS because it always seemed like a forbidden thing that was impossible to have. Then years later I find this forum and I've been almost exclusively been doing BBFS with providers. I'm starting to lose track of the women I've inseminated and I pray to God or whoever is answering to not give me a std or a kid. I sometimes wish I never found this forum but then I'm sticking my dick inside a nice warm pussy and all my worries go away till later that night. I can't get enough it's like my addiction while others have booze or drugs I bare fuck these chicks.
MelloDobot
02-06-19, 02:45
Thats why we are all here. Too test the water and report back. Its rare but members do report if they unfortunately contact something from a providers but some time its just bacteria from unclean providers and others will just say stories about when they did contact something and give members advice. Its a shameful thing to contact something and its not easy to always report back if member criticize you
Most of us wear our rain coats so we mainly discuss service but since this section is mixed the BBFS members should be more informative but for the most part everyone that BBFS at Mott has not said anything bad so up until now everything seems ok.
We all take risk in the hobby why worry about the next man doing BBFS when you should be greatful he taking the risk to report back us on the forum.( thats how i see it)
I rmember being a naive kid who started out never expecting BBFS because it always seemed like a forbidden thing that was impossible to have. Then years later I find this forum and I've been almost exclusively been doing BBFS with providers. I'm starting to lose track of the women I've inseminated and I pray to God or whoever is answering to not give me a std or a kid. I sometimes wish I never found this forum but then I'm sticking my dick inside a nice warm pussy and all my worries go away till later that night. I can't get enough it's like my addiction while others have booze or drugs I bare fuck these chicks.
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