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Horny As Hell
06-07-15, 17:16
To help some that are not so aware etc of "signs" or symptoms.
She has always resisted pics in the past but relented today as long as I kept her face out of them. I'm going to post some pics for one reason and one reason only. Take a CLOSE look at them and you might see why. If I posted the reason why I won't scoop her again (even for free) it would get censored since that reason would be "unsubstantiated".
In my younger days I made a lot of poor decisions and got lucky with no stds. But after being tested and was clean it was a wake up call for me. So I switched all mongering activities to happy ending by hand to keep my safe status.
But recently I tried a provider that did nuru with panties on. A lot of body to body rubbing and sliding with nuru, was great. Also a lot of intercrural with me being in between her leg or her on top dry humping.
Risks or issues for me is that I was completely uncovered the whole time. Second is that she rode to orgasm so I wonder about secretions. Finally the body to body and crotch to crotch in respect to hpv or herpes seems as risky as bb FS to me, maybe I'm wrong here so I am asking.
This was a great experience in the moment and felt safe because of no penetration and she kept underwear on the whole time. But it is beyond my safe boundaries that I have kept me in the game for so long with out having any stds.
I took a quick shower and rinsed off at the providers location (she took a shower first, good sign that she has good hygiene) and then came home and immediately bathed my junk in hydrogen peroxide and washed myself with soap and water. May not have not have had any effect but I figure better than not taking the time to clean.
So am I freaking out for no reason? Or was this a high enough risk to get tested again?
In my younger days I made a lot of poor decisions and got lucky with no stds. But after being tested and was clean it was a wake up call for me. So I switched all mongering activities to happy ending by hand to keep my safe status.
But recently I tried a provider that did nuru with panties on. A lot of body to body rubbing and sliding with nuru, was great. Also a lot of intercrural with me being in between her leg or her on top dry humping.
Risks or issues for me is that I was completely uncovered the whole time. Second is that she rode to orgasm so I wonder about secretions. Finally the body to body and crotch to crotch in respect to hpv or herpes seems as risky as bb FS to me, maybe I'm wrong here so I am asking.
This was a great experience in the moment and felt safe because of no penetration and she kept underwear on the whole time. But it is beyond my safe boundaries that I have kept me in the game for so long with out having any stds.
I took a quick shower and rinsed off at the providers location (she took a shower first, good sign that she has good hygiene) and then came home and immediately bathed my junk in hydrogen peroxide and washed myself with soap and water. May not have not have had any effect but I figure better than not taking the time to clean.
So am I freaking out for no reason? Or was this a high enough risk to get tested again?Skin to skin contact same as if you had a condum on there is some risk as you see in the photo two posts down. A condum will not protect from that so you can get herpes and HPV / warts.
Skin to skin contact same as if you had a condum on there is some risk as you see in the photo two posts down. A condum will not protect from that so you can get herpes and HPV / warts.You think hydrogen peroxide and immediate washing could make a difference?
Or time to get tested?
You think hydrogen peroxide and immediate washing could make a difference?
Or time to get tested?Ask your doctor, my understanding is what you could catch is tested when its visible.
John Dough
06-09-15, 14:00
Quoting from:
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2012/04/27/how-to-avoid-stds-part-2/
If you have sex with American women, you will regularly come into contact with an STD. Although most STDs do not pose a serious threat to men, there are some ways to avoid them.
Defense Soap has tea tree oil in it. Tea tree oil is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral. It also has Eucalyptus Globulus another potent antimicrobial.
I keep a bar of soap in my house. I keep a box of Defense Soap wipes (think baby wipes for players) in my car. Stash a couple in a small zip-lock baggie (to keep them moist), throw them in your jacket, and you're covered.
I always wash my cock and balls after sex. I also try urinating.
I also protect the cock by keeping it well lubricated.
The best condom a man has is the skin on his dick. If your skin is supple and well-hydrated, bacteria has trouble passing through it.
I keep a separate jar of coconut oil in the bathroom to use as a moisturizer and hair glorifier.
I also regularly use coconut oil as a lubricant: The antiviral activity in coconut oil is unparalleled, even among the most resistant viruses, and the best part is, if it's virgin and organic, there isn't a man-made chemical in the mix.
Apply the oil to your cock, emphasizing the head of your dick. Remember to hit the surrounding areas.
What are the chances of getting hiv or std's from some of these women? Just wondering if anyone has heard anything or some opinions.
Trust Lust
06-24-15, 00:44
Back in the day, rumor always was going around that the promiscuous teen aged girls had to have the nastiest cunts. On the other hand, prostitutes were to have the cleanest. Automatically, the feminist pipes in, "Well, of course, the prostitute always requires her customer to wear a condom," as the man hater drifts off into some swirly eyed gaze gloating over being some authority on the matter. Were the antagonist to only know how the rubber matter often plays out. I've dated hundreds of SW's, as a much safer option, than the communist marriage institution we have in the United States or at least Texas. Usually I've always been able to go bare back to completion with little more than tipping. About the worst I've been up against is going two or three dates, at the most, before a proposed regular gives in and lets me go all the way.
Needless to say, that even after having been faced with the inconvenience of rubbering up, I slosh a shot of Clorox into a cup of water; dip a washcloth in it, and wash my dick off with it. Before that, I take a syringe and flush out my pisser with the solution. Laboratory experiments, that ones with four years of math, physics, and chemistry after high school, have performed, demonstrate that viruses can pass through the lattices of latex condoms. Come to think about, light makes it thru, doesn't it? Mine own book tells me first off that the prostitute is cleaner than the teenage chick, because the prostitute has built up her immune system for her habits. By the same token, I never have been one to get sick very much, anyway.
Years of reading, study, and experimenting mean nothing more than just plain work with what goes on in nature, but that experience has gifted me with the ability to smell things like flu etc, and get the hell away from it. I have a hunch that I've dumped a lot of prostitutes right back, where I happened to pick "them up, once I happened to pick up on a stench indicative of them being affected with contagions. At the same time, I'm perfectly able to do so without the schooling specific to the matter.
Trust Lust
06-26-15, 01:22
Okay, here's proof right from TABER's COMIC BOOK: Dakin's solution (unable to pronounce) (Henry the. Dakin, USA Chemist, 1880-1952}. A solution for cleaning wounds, developed during World War 1. A very dilute neutral solution (0. 45% to 0. 5%) of sodium hypochlorite and 0. 4% boric acid.
This stuff has a whole lot more sodium hypochlorite, than bleach we buy at the grocery store, and what's the point in boric acid? A couple of cap fulls of bleach to a cup of water will clean any wound without any need for buffering. Hardware store turpentine is sufficient for any STD's, rash, too, without paying extra for high fluting ointments and hooey oils already turpentine based. Rub the area down with DMSO along with turpentine any combination of ways to get it to soak in better.
InnoniniSatan
07-03-15, 16:50
Here I was thinking that I was the only one!
Chinaheart681
07-03-15, 17:16
Might want to check yourself. Damn everybody.
Here I was thinking that I was the only one!
TwlveStpper
07-03-15, 17:23
I just received my package of little helpers. Ordered extras for my fellow mongers. Feel free to pm. Looking forward to meeting some new talent tonight. Just don't know which direction to go. Was thinking about the country girl, Nicole. Not sure if she's posted recently. Made contact with her on 2 occasions but haven't been able to dream about her yet. Cialis too. Be safe out there.
Bradda Aces
07-03-15, 17:50
Might want to check yourself. Damn everybody.I am not trying to judge any monger who does or doesn't partake in BBFS. I, myself, prefer BBFS. Every monger knows the risks and we all have our own scale in determining the risk vs reward. I just want to say this, however: Oahu is a small island. As I've stated, I've had BBFS with at least 10-15 girls at Empire, Nana being one of them. I'm also sure the 10-15 girls I mentioned did it with other mongers. I can't possibly be that charming!! So there's probably at least a 100 of us who've done BBFS at Empire. Then some of these guys go to Kison and Chm (I don't cause I prefer them younger, especially if I'm paying). Now if stds were going around, imagine the rampant spread that would've happened by now if that were the case. Not to mention other girls at Nirvana, Roses, etc. That has select girls that provide BBFS. What I'm trying to say is while I'm not saying BBFS is safe by any means, many many of us would have an std already if it was going around. Do the math: 100 guys BBFS at Empire. Then 50 of them go to the other AMPs mentioned. Then the girls there give it to their customers. It would be a vicious cycle. I'm sure Hawaii news would've reported an outbreak by now of 1000 cases of stds. So like I said, risk vs reward. I don't think any judgments should be passed on those that do BBFS and this forum is supposed to contain reports so guys that want or don't want BBFS know which girls to try or avoid.
InnoniniSatan
07-03-15, 17:57
Might want to check yourself. Damn everybody.Tho fun, we all know the possible consequences of our actions. I too like to keep it quiet out of respect for the girl and other mongers. I spilled several loads never on her but so deep in her. Having been able to do that wasn't only awesome but extremely hot. Refer to my earlier post I never came soo much since beating off as a 8 grader many moons ago. I've gone raw with a few others there at Empire but Nana wasn't only a good fuck but an awesome lover. Just my $. 02.
Candyman2002
07-03-15, 19:19
Tho fun, we all know the possible consequences of our actions. I too like to keep it quiet out of respect for the girl and other mongers. I spilled several loads never on her but so deep in her. Having been able to do that wasn't only awesome but extremely hot. Refer to my earlier post I never came soo much since beating off as a 8 grader many moons ago. I've gone raw with a few others there at Empire but Nana wasn't only a good fuck but an awesome lover. Just my $. 02.That's why I always make sure I got her first thing in the morning as I do with all others I do BBFS with so I know I'm getting it fresh!! The mongers are always backed up and girls don't have time between customers so you know that things are getting mixed around down there. LOL.
Might want to check yourself. Damn everybody.She was really popular. I don't know why she had to BBFS, kinda scary!
Bradda Aces
07-03-15, 20:16
Sorry if this is a repeat but my last post is not showing. I admit, I prefer BBFS. I do understand other mongers' concerns however. We all have our own scale for weighing the risk vs reward in terms of BBFS. As I've stated in prior posts, I've had BBFS from 10-15 providers at Empire plus other girls that my friends told me have provided it but I didn't get to try. I'm also sure these girls provided BBFS to other mongers. I can't be that charming! Just keep this in mind: Oahu is a small island. If we do the math, these 15 girls provide BBFS to 20 guys each (and that's a low number), that's 300 guys. Now some of these guys go to other AMPs that provide BBFS and these girls then provide BBFS to their customers. And it goes on and on and on. The numbers multiply exponentially. I'm not advocating BBFS or saying it's safe, but with these numbers, I'm sure Hawaii news would've already reported 1000 cases of std outbreaks by now. Like I said we all got our preferences and means to weigh the risk vs reward. Girls I've gotten BBFS from at Empire: Selena, Yuko, Sugar, Amy, Melody, Mina, Jolin, Christine, Mendy, Nini, Ella, Grace, Sunny, Nana, and Layla. Some of them I just had to ask and some even asked me what I prefer. Some took a repeat or multiple repeats. Some required more cash. Girls that I struck out on include Wara, Lux, Cherry, Kelly, and Joanna.
She was really popular. I don't know why she had to BBFS, kinda scary!Yeah, that's like playing Russian Roulette. Think with your big head, not that small one, LOL. Be safe bruddahs and everyone have an awesome July 4!
Average looking at best. Super popular because she did deepshots into her pussy. She not Juli looks or channel 7 manipulator. All she really has is naked wet pussy. Plenty dicks dumped plenty cum in that hole.
That is why she popular.
She was really popular. I don't know why she had to BBFS, kinda scary!
Chinaheart681
07-03-15, 21:58
Damn I hope I wasn't smelling your stuff will. Daty. LOL. Yup yup got to play it safe from now on. Scary stuff.
Tho fun, we all know the possible consequences of our actions. I too like to keep it quiet out of respect for the girl and other mongers. I spilled several loads never on her but so deep in her. Having been able to do that wasn't only awesome but extremely hot. Refer to my earlier post I never came soo much since beating off as a 8 grader many moons ago. I've gone raw with a few others there at Empire but Nana wasn't only a good fuck but an awesome lover. Just my $. 02.
Viet Whisperer
07-03-15, 23:09
If an AMP girl gives you BBFS you should never ever believe you are the only one getting it. I understand keeping it to yourself and I do the same but always funny to me that some of us believe we are the only ones with special treatment. We mostly want to believe that I think. Good news is your probably still clean from a statistical risk standpoint for Hawaii. BBFS is offered readily all over the island but don't hear much credible stories about stds for the most part with a few exception here and there. Good luck.
MollyDaniels
07-04-15, 16:57
Sing the praises of lamb skin ultra thins to do your deeds many of us who are struck with the curse of ED take our hats off to you pun intended as many of us can't even get it up for a good fk. We have been brought low pun intended by the scourge of peckeritis drooposis that affects many of us older psy hounds. Our infirmity causes us to long pun intended for the feel of warm wet loving again that we knew as young men but may only happen if we are lucky Now to make you all feel MUCH BETTER most of you know my sibling was seeing a nurse who had a partner she worked with. Thanks to SCOTUS and their stupidity the nurse turned to her female partner and tied the knot. Another blow pun intended to the psy pursuit of the male gender. His only revenge was to tell his beloved nurse who abandoned him that psy aint ck and can't fk her So those who are bemoaning dementia alzheimers, lack of nookyitis and the golories of ultra thin durex think of your poor brother monger who was cast aside by a woman for a woman the ultimate let down pun intended. Have a happy 4th and celibrate with enthusiastic explosions and enjoy your situations Best wishes from the Ohio incumbent as we seek to fk our way to a glorious happy ending in all undertakings Pun intended.Sexually transmitted viral diseases include HIV, herpes, and hepatitis.
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LuckyGandor
07-23-15, 20:29
As it appears she has given my buddy a present which requires a visit to the clinic.This is what keeps me in check, I have insane fear over visits to the clinic If that wasn't a concern, I'd be poor yet satisfied.
Speaking of, has any veteran that posts here had an issue with that? Just curious how prevalent it is or is it super rare? I'm assuming sticking with CFS and you're pretty good to go. I've read that getting anything from BBBJ is extremely rare.
YoungRestless
07-24-15, 11:13
This is what keeps me in check, I have insane fear over visits to the clinic If that wasn't a concern, I'd be poor yet satisfied.
Speaking of, has any veteran that posts here had an issue with that? Just curious how prevalent it is or is it super rare? I'm assuming sticking with CFS and you're pretty good to go. I've read that getting anything from BBBJ is extremely rare.But dining at the (Y) can really be dangerous because of HPV. This virus has been known to cause throat cancer and cervical cancer as well. As tempting as it might be at times, do whatever you can to protect yourself because when you finally decide to leave this so-called hobby, you don't want this shet coming back to bite you!
JaxTruckDriver
07-24-15, 15:02
This is what keeps me in check, I have insane fear over visits to the clinic If that wasn't a concern, I'd be poor yet satisfied.
Speaking of, has any veteran that posts here had an issue with that? Just curious how prevalent it is or is it super rare? I'm assuming sticking with CFS and you're pretty good to go. I've read that getting anything from BBBJ is extremely rare.Let me tell yall something. I once had chlamydia from a BBBJ. Best blowjob of my life but man it caused some pain. I won't do nothing now without a cover unless it is hands. You piss fire once and your done taking risks. This was a good five yrs ago but I remember it like it was yesterday. She wasn't a cheap streetwalker either. Decent provider.
YoungRestless
07-24-15, 18:35
Let me tell yall something. I once had chlamydia from a BBBJ. Best blowjob of my life but man it caused some pain. I won't do nothing now without a cover unless it is hands. You piss fire once and your done taking risks. This was a good five yrs ago but I remember it like it was yesterday. She wasn't a cheap streetwalker either. Decent provider.For you to disclose this information! Thank you! Sometimes people use statistical data to try to lessen the risk inherent in these activities but the risk is real! Say one quotes some stats saying it's less than 0. 4%; yeah, but let's just also say you're in that 0. 4% number?! You very well could be.
The Preacher
07-24-15, 20:06
Let me tell yall something. I once had chlamydia from a BBBJ. Best blowjob of my life but man it caused some pain. I won't do nothing now without a cover unless it is hands. You piss fire once and your done taking risks. This was a good five yrs ago but I remember it like it was yesterday. She wasn't a cheap streetwalker either. Decent provider.I've heard it's quite painful. How long between your visit and the onset of symptoms?
SkyWalker13
07-25-15, 04:58
Let me tell yall something. I once had chlamydia from a BBBJ. Best blowjob of my life but man it caused some pain. I won't do nothing now without a cover unless it is hands. You piss fire once and your done taking risks. This was a good five yrs ago but I remember it like it was yesterday. She wasn't a cheap streetwalker either. Decent provider.From my experience I cover up too. It's not impossible to get gonorrhea or Chlamydia from a BBBJ. We have some girls swallowing 10 protein shakes a day and everybody ain't clean. There is a provider out right now burning dudes. I can't say who publicly. Just be careful.
I've heard it's quite painful. How long between your visit and the onset of symptoms?Same happened to me back in December. Took a week for first tingle to appear but everyone will vary. Fortunate a pill gets rid of it. Clap also transferable by bbj.
DarkSideOfMe
07-25-15, 10:23
My little head will never get up again, after reading all this info. (POST). Makes you feel like a "self hand job", is the only thing left for us anymore!! LOL. Drksd.
SkyWalker13
07-25-15, 18:18
Same happened to me back in December. Took a week for first tingle to appear but everyone will vary. Fortunate a pill gets rid of it. Clap also transferable by bbj.I got a BBBJ from a provider about a year and a half ago and a few days later I was dripping. I would advise a cover up. Some of these girls get 5 to 10 protein shakes a day and everybody giving the shake isn't clean. Gonorrhea and chlamydia can live in the throat. By the way there is a provider out there right now with the latter. I won't post details publicly.
I got a BBBJ from a provider about a year and a half ago and a few days later I was dripping. I would advise a cover up. Some of these girls get 5 to 10 protein shakes a day and everybody giving the shake isn't clean. Gonorrhea and chlamydia can live in the throat. By the way there is a provider out there right now with the latter. I won't post details publicly.Sorry to here and hope you recover quickly. I was married to an ex AMP attendant. She told me of having had multiple bouts of sore throats treated with antibiotics when.
She worked and was surprised to to rarely get one once she stopped. I wasn't surprised. Not to difficult to get GC or Chlamydia pharyngitis if you'are doing 75 BBBJ's a week.
If an AMP girl gives you BBFS you should never ever believe you are the only one getting it. I understand keeping it to yourself and I do the same but always funny to me that some of us believe we are the only ones with special treatment. We mostly want to believe that I think. Good news is your probably still clean from a statistical risk standpoint for Hawaii. BBFS is offered readily all over the island but don't hear much credible stories about stds for the most part with a few exception here and there. Good luck.You are so right. I married a Korean who worked in AMPs for a number of years. She told every one they were the only ones she allowed BBFS. Yes, everyone who saw her more than once or gave her a tip if she thought they looked clean. She was lucky that she did't get HIV, but a one time or another had contracted about all you could think of except HBV for which she had already but in an inactive stage.
Sorry if this is a repeat but my last post is not showing. I admit, I prefer BBFS. I do understand other mongers' concerns however. We all have our own scale for weighing the risk vs reward in terms of BBFS. As I've stated in prior posts, I've had BBFS from 10-15 providers at Empire plus other girls that my friends told me have provided it but I didn't get to try. I'm also sure these girls provided BBFS to other mongers. I can't be that charming! Just keep this in mind: Oahu is a small island. If we do the math, these 15 girls provide BBFS to 20 guys each (and that's a low number), that's 300 guys. Now some of these guys go to other AMPs that provide BBFS and these girls then provide BBFS to their customers. And it goes on and on and on. The numbers multiply exponentially. I'm not advocating BBFS or saying it's safe, but with these numbers, I'm sure Hawaii news would've already reported 1000 cases of std outbreaks by now. Like I said we all got our preferences and means to weigh the risk vs reward. Girls I've gotten BBFS from at Empire: Selena, Yuko, Sugar, Amy, Melody, Mina, Jolin, Christine, Mendy, Nini, Ella, Grace, Sunny, Nana, and Layla. Some of them I just had to ask and some even asked me what I prefer. Some took a repeat or multiple repeats. Some required more cash. Girls that I struck out on include Wara, Lux, Cherry, Kelly, and Joanna.I think your numbers are correct having been married to a Korean ex AMP worker. About 300 guys / Mon. And 10-20% BBFS.
Member #5136
07-26-15, 23:18
I think your numbers are correct having been married to a Korean ex AMP worker. About 300 guys / Mon. And 10-20% BBFS.It takes a special kinda dude to marry a woman who's had that many rods. How the hell did you end up married to an AMP worker. And are you still in the hobby? I'm fascinated by this.
JaxTruckDriver
07-27-15, 15:36
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JaxTruckDriver
07-28-15, 10:03
I'll rephrase my original rule breaking post, though I don't recall naming any names. Someone asked the question of how long the incubation period was.
I got my blowjob on Tuesday. About 10-11 days later, I started feeling the sting. Not too bad at first. But a day or two later, I was burning like a *****. Yall don't ever want that. I got a shot from the doc and it cleared up.
Hopefully this post doesn't break any rules, as I simply am telling someone what the period was for when the burn starts.
In your other post you quoted a guy who name a chick and I read it as you having contracted your dick burning issue from her.
A2
It takes a special kinda dude to marry a woman who's had that many rods. How the hell did you end up married to an AMP worker. And are you still in the hobby? I'm fascinated by this.It's a long story but to suffice it to say that I met her first when she was working in a different field and I didn't know of her past. I thought that every two months she was visiting relatives when she went to work in out of state AMPs. We are compatable and she is a very attractive and an enjoyable person to be around. Which turned into a relationship for a couple or three years and then marriage.
I first heard of her working at an AMP by a close Japanese friend who heard a lot from being a sushi chef from some of his customers who saw my GF for a fee. Prior to talking about marriage Young told me one night. I kind of knew so it wasn't a shock. She was honest and said she only did it for income starting after her divorce from an ex milatary guy who was a drunk. She's Koream but was working in Okinowa when she met him. Her family lives there.
I'm very late middle age and very emotionally and financially secure. Back when we met she was mid 30's and working at AMPs for about 14 years. A young Korean who is very attractive, seductive, sexy and easy to get along with. Now she's mid 40's and it's 12 years later. We're still married happily.
I figured that I saw other women before. So she saw other guys. We both were examined for about every STD you could think of before we tied the knot.
I kind of found it a little like my own porn movie in my head when I thought of her giving a BBBJ or FS. I told her before we got real serious. She invited me to the AMP she was working and I got to see what her life was like at work and to actually peek at her getting fk'ed or sk'ing some one off and it actually made me horny to my surprise.
Since married she has told me that she has worked some days because she misses the comaraderie with the other girls. She goes to Hawaii or Cali far from where we live and is mid.
40's but looks younger although not like the 20 and 30 year olds in Hawaii and many young ones in Cali. That work with her.
I let her go and it keeps our life running smoothly. I also do because of our age differences and have let her see others in our area but not for money, just for her satisfaction. The 20 year old who cuts our lawn must come over three times a week and others are students at local universities and some guys she meets when she's out with her Korean girl friends. I give lots of lee way.
We're both happy and I really don't mind that she fk'ed and sk'ed a lot of guys in the past or her current friends. It actually adds spice to our sex life when she talks of her adventures and we have had three somes and more with younger guys. I usually watch and get harder with the benefit of Viagara. At the end I have sex with her and she always says she's saving the best for last which makes me feel good because I know that it's a bit of a tall tail after seeing 20 yr olds with rock hard on's fk her.
It works for us but might not be best for all. I think that I lucked out. Young doesn't gamble, drink or take drugs. She's a great Korean cook, goes to church on Sundays and my current friends say she's a conservative well dressed attractive female.
Ampboner.
It takes a special kinda dude to marry a woman who's had that many rods. How the hell did you end up married to an AMP worker. And are you still in the hobby? I'm fascinated by this.It's a long story. PM me if you want. It has worked out very well for us both.
DeadDead22
07-30-15, 16:37
I actually saw her a little before Christmas last year. She is very cute and allows kissing if you like it. Her nipples were sensitive I remember but her blowjob was pretty good. Lots of forced choking on the BJ, which I don't know a lot of girls that do that, and a little bit of eye contact here and there. She was definitely a repeat but just lived a little too far from me. I will say that she does offer BBFS. I remember when I was inquiring she mentioned that if I wanted anything beyond the BJ I would have to pick up the condoms if I wanted to use them. I kinda joked and I said well do I have to have the condoms to do the full service she said no bare is fine. I know for some guys that's a deal breaker just wanted to be open about my experience.Eh. Just remember, whether she admits it or not, every ho goes bareback with someone. Just wear rubber and you'll be fine. But if that ruins it for you, I understand.
Recapacitar
07-30-15, 19:22
Eh. Just remember, whether she admits it or not, every ho goes bareback with someone. Just wear rubber and you'll be fine. But if that ruins it for you, I understand.That's true, but what you want to avoid is the chick that goes bareback with every fucker that wants to do it. That's the chick that'll give you and every other fucker herpes and etc. Remember that std's and her friends can be caught with BBBJ's and kissing and that crap can be spread to other chicks and to your family. Chicks that knowingly do BBFS are already bad news.
That's true, but what you want to avoid is the chick that goes bareback with every fucker that wants to do it. That's the chick that'll give you and every other fucker herpes and etc. Remember that std's and her friends can be caught with BBBJ's and kissing and that crap can be spread to other chicks and to your family. Chicks that knowingly do BBFS are already bad news.Condoms don't protect you from the surface contact STDs such as herpes and genital warts. Not passing judgment or trying to ruin anyone's day. Being exposed directly to the virus in question is the issue and that virus can be present in many areas not covered by a condom.
Vurt Da Furk
08-01-15, 22:08
Also BBFS and greek BBFS. I can not, can not believe I did those last two things with her. I felt the need to get tested after that. Luckily came back negative, but it seems like just a matter of time.You have some serious cojones my friend. You're basically playing Russian roulette. I was contemplating seeing her but I'm worried what kind of diseases she would have from offering it in the first place. Did you finish inside of her?
XxJohnJohnXx
08-02-15, 01:11
You have some serious cojones my friend. You're basically playing Russian roulette. I was contemplating seeing her but I'm worried what kind of diseases she would have from offering it in the first place. Did you finish inside of her?I been soo tempted to go see HAZE from Tampa Florida!! But after Reading A LOT of reviews about her giving bbjcim and SWALLOWING, idk I consider her VERY RISKY, HIV virus is found in semen, and tons of guys have poped in her mouth.
Found another review of her where some dude reports seen rashes on her arm and stuff, and also about the needles!! Seen several reports of people seeing needles and she claims is her insulin shots, yall think about it could also be hiv treatment shots or something, I don't know but there is something odd about it.
Anyways I'm not trying to say she is carrying the virus, but there is a possibility that she does, and is something to think about, after all lets do some real talk here, NONE of this girls care about us, some of them are self destructive and don't even care about them selves, what makes you think they would care about you.
Or your safety? Not trying to scare anybody but is deff something to think about, got to play it safe!
I haven't been too tempted to see that Haze, like you said, too many questionable reports. I was referencing this angel http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?image=22152959&oid=22152962. Different person, although I've heard reports of people suspecting that she and baby use H. I haven't seen any track marks though, so I'm more inclined to think pills. Who knows though?
Anyways, I definitely agree. That is not something I make a habit of, happened one time when I was thinking with little head.
BTW, it is practically impossible to get aids from a BJ. If they have a cut or sore in their mouth and you have a laceration on your junk, it is possible but unlikely even then. But I digress.
I been soo tempted to go see HAZE from Tampa Florida!! But after Reading A LOT of reviews about her giving bbjcim and SWALLOWING, idk I consider her VERY RISKY, HIV virus is found in semen, and tons of guys have poped in her mouth.
Found another review of her where some dude reports seen rashes on her arm and stuff, and also about the needles!! Seen several reports of people seeing needles and she claims is her insulin shots, yall think about it could also be hiv treatment shots or something, I don't know but there is something odd about it.
Anyways I'm not trying to say she is carrying the virus, but there is a possibility that she does, and is something to think about, after all lets do some real talk here, NONE of this girls care about us, some of them are self destructive and don't even care about them selves, what makes you think they would care about you.
Or your safety? Not trying to scare anybody but is deff something to think about, got to play it safe!
Vurt Da Furk
08-02-15, 11:33
I been soo tempted to go see HAZE from Tampa Florida!! But after Reading A LOT of reviews about her giving bbjcim and SWALLOWING, idk I consider her VERY RISKY, HIV virus is found in semen, and tons of guys have poped in her mouth.
Found another review of her where some dude reports seen rashes on her arm and stuff, and also about the needles!! Seen several reports of people seeing needles and she claims is her insulin shots, yall think about it could also be hiv treatment shots or something, I don't know but there is something odd about it.
Anyways I'm not trying to say she is carrying the virus, but there is a possibility that she does, and is something to think about, after all lets do some real talk here, NONE of this girls care about us, some of them are self destructive and don't even care about them selves, what makes you think they would care about you.
Or your safety? Not trying to scare anybody but is deff something to think about, got to play it safe!The treatment for HIV / AIDS is a plethora of antiretroviral drugs which are generally taken orally, not via injection. It's possible that the needles are in fact for insulin shots but there other methods like pens, pumps, and injectors. As for contracting HIV via oral sex, the chances are slim to none -- I'd be more worried about herpes, gonorrhea, and syphilis. It's much more common to contract (or spread) the virus via vaginal or anal sex.
VDF.
Joe Looking
08-02-15, 18:34
I been soo tempted to go see HAZE from Tampa Florida!! But after Reading A LOT of reviews about her giving bbjcim and SWALLOWING, idk I consider her VERY RISKY, HIV virus is found in semen, and tons of guys have poped in her mouth.
Found another review of her where some dude reports seen rashes on her arm and stuff, and also about the needles!! Seen several reports of people seeing needles and she claims is her insulin shots, yall think about it could also be hiv treatment shots or something, I don't know but there is something odd about it.
Anyways I'm not trying to say she is carrying the virus, but there is a possibility that she does, and is something to think about, after all lets do some real talk here, NONE of this girls care about us, some of them are self destructive and don't even care about them selves, what makes you think they would care about you.
Or your safety? Not trying to scare anybody but is deff something to think about, got to play it safe!I'm not doctor but IIRC hiv is not carried and spread via saliva. That means that although not 0, the chances of getting it from having oral sex performed on your are fairly low. The girl would need to have a cut or open sore in her mouth or gums and a secretion from that sore would need to enter your urethra or a cut on your penis. You have a large chance of picking it up from performing oral sex on women since you are ingesting vaginal secretions that may carry the virus. Again, not a doctor but the biggest risk is coming into contact with blood. IIRC there was a study showing that anal sex resulted in higher rates of transmission due to the tearing and bleeding that often takes place.
To be clear though you can get herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea and other infection from unprotected oral sex (a condom won't save you from herpes). All that said even with the cover a BJ from Haze from Tampa will probably be one of the best you'll find in the area.
I'm not doctor but IIRC hiv is not carried and spread via saliva. That means that although not 0, the chances of getting it from having oral sex performed on your are fairly low. The girl would need to have a cut or open sore in her mouth or gums and a secretion from that sore would need to enter your urethra or a cut on your penis. You have a large chance of picking it up from performing oral sex on women since you are ingesting vaginal secretions that may carry the virus. Again, not a doctor but the biggest risk is coming into contact with blood. IIRC there was a study showing that anal sex resulted in higher rates of transmission due to the tearing and bleeding that often takes place.
To be clear though you can get herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea and other infection from unprotected oral sex (a condom won't save you from herpes). All that said even with the cover a BJ from Haze from Tampa will probably be one of the best you'll find in the area.I'm no doctor either, and although I am a ***** and a heathen, in fucking and licking hundreds of ladies in the past couple decades, I've never ended up with more than chlamydia and crabs. The medical, political and governmental establishment wants to tow and extend that line that "everybody is at risk for HIV, you have to wear a condom. " This is sort of like the "absolute truth" that precum carries sperm, and the pill is not 100% effective at preventing pregnancy.
Bullshit.
The pill is 100% effective when used CORRECTLY. "Using" the pill means taking in at roughly the same time every day. Government statistics, and doctor recommendations include "misuse" which is why the GOVERNMENT and DOCTORS state that it it not 100% effective. For the record, the only time I got a girl pregnant was because we fucked like rabbits for a week and I later found out she stopped taking the pill a month earlier. If the pill were only "95% effective," I'd have at least 5-10 open child support claims, and I don't.
As for "precum contains sperm," no, it inherently does NOT, but the the 80% effective (again, rated by those doctors and government experts who are all too willing to remind you how much more they know than you do) pull out method is only 80% effective because 20% of the dudes shot off earlier, didn't piss enough, and therefore there was LEFTOVER SPERM in the uerthra which got pushed out by the NEXT STREAM of precum.
Where am I going with this? To correlate this with the PC explanation and incidence of HIV, whereby doctors and government officials want to tell us that ALL sexual activity is at risk of HIV. Newsflash: Just like 40 years ago, the only people getting HIV and AIDS are men getting fucked in the ass by men, women getting fucked in the ass by men who also secretly get fucked in the ass by men, and IV drug users who share dirty needles, or men who used dirty needles and fucking other people in the ass after they've been infected.. These are your AIDS cases. It's not PC to say this is a "gay disease" or "anal sex is the only real risk factor," but that's the truth. Do some research. In my street-smart real-life opinion, the IV drug users are the ones to avoid for straight sex, but again, unless you have an open sore on your cock and go raw, or eat the girl out with a fresh oral wound, you're not going to catch it IF she has it.
I have a buddy who is queer as a $6 bill, who is the fucker NOT the fuck-ee, and he is HIV-free after 2 decades of raw fucking being the top and not the bottom. Receiving bareback anal sex is the #1 way by FAR to catch HIV. If you aren't doing that, you can stop worrying, or you can continue to worry, but you might as well also worry about lightning, being broadsided by a drunk driver, some girl's pimp shooting you dead at the no-tel, or your pissed wife shooting you when she finds out, etc.
I'm no doctor either, and although I am a ***** and a heathen, in fucking and licking hundreds of ladies in the past couple decades, I've never ended up with more than chlamydia and crabs. The medical, political and governmental establishment wants to tow and extend that line that "everybody is at risk for HIV, you have to wear a condom. " This is sort of like the "absolute truth" that precum carries sperm, and the pill is not 100% effective at preventing pregnancy.
Bullshit.
The pill is 100% effective when used CORRECTLY. "Using" the pill means taking in at roughly the same time every day. Government statistics, and doctor recommendations include "misuse" which is why the GOVERNMENT and DOCTORS state that it it not 100% effective. For the record, the only time I got a girl pregnant was because we fucked like rabbits for a week and I later found out she stopped taking the pill a month earlier. If the pill were only "95% effective," I'd have at least 5-10 open child support claims, and I don't.
As for "precum contains sperm," no, it inherently does NOT, but the the 80% effective (again, rated by those doctors and government experts who are all too willing to remind you how much more they know than you do) pull out method is only 80% effective because 20% of the dudes shot off earlier, didn't piss enough, and therefore there was LEFTOVER SPERM in the uerthra which got pushed out by the NEXT STREAM of precum.
Where am I going with this? To correlate this with the PC explanation and incidence of HIV, whereby doctors and government officials want to tell us that ALL sexual activity is at risk of HIV. Newsflash: Just like 40 years ago, the only people getting HIV and AIDS are men getting fucked in the ass by men, women getting fucked in the ass by men who also secretly get fucked in the ass by men, and IV drug users who share dirty needles, or men who used dirty needles and fucking other people in the ass after they've been infected.. These are your AIDS cases. It's not PC to say this is a "gay disease" or "anal sex is the only real risk factor," but that's the truth. Do some research. In my street-smart real-life opinion, the IV drug users are the ones to avoid for straight sex, but again, unless you have an open sore on your cock and go raw, or eat the girl out with a fresh oral wound, you're not going to catch it IF she has it.
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The key phrase to listen to here is "You're not a doctor" and to add to it, I'm assuming you're not a health professional of any sorts. I personally don't care what you or the others do, but be careful about giving people who may not be as "street smart" as you a false sense of bravado and will use this to make stupid choices. I found a lot of things wrong with what you wrote, but mostly that it seems to all be fueled by your views on being PC. HIV is real, the stats prove that gay guys are 20 x more likely to get it, but that does not reduce the fact that hetero partners still do. While anectodal evidence is good to put things into perspective, it is just anecdotal.
While on this topic, it's absurd how many providers do BBFS. Using a fake number, I generally try to see if any prospective provider does BBFS and while I'm convinced the majority do with long-time regulars, its alarming to see how many will do it with new people they have never met or talked to for $40 extra or doubling the rate. I tend to avoid those ones because the liklihood they have something is greater. In case you were wondering who they were, many of them don't advertise anymore but the four that are popular here are Baby, Angel / Haze, Tampa Haze, and Meena. There were many more, but those had no issues with barebacking. I ended the convos immediately.
MrSmithwick
08-03-15, 09:42
Some of you guys may be all about some BBFS but if a girl will BB your junk, she will BB someone else. To be honest, I don't BB hookers. IF you don't like covers, I suggest you try various ones to find the one that works the best and feels the best to you and have them handy because it's likely that a provider will not have your brand / style. Hell, use a FC2 (female condom) they are great for that BB feel. Just don't be stupid and jump in without safety equipment because you'll probably be the recipient of a life long gift.
The key phrase to listen to here is "You're not a doctor" and to add to it, I'm assuming you're not a health professional of any sorts. I personally don't care what you or the others do, but be careful about giving people who may not be as "street smart" as you a false sense of bravado and will use this to make stupid choices. I found a lot of things wrong with what you wrote, but mostly that it seems to all be fueled by your views on being PC. HIV is real, the stats prove that gay guys are 20 x more likely to get it, but that does not reduce the fact that hetero partners still do. While anectodal evidence is good to put things into perspective, it is just anecdotal.
While on this topic, it's absurd how many providers do BBFS. Using a fake number, I generally try to see if any prospective provider does BBFS and while I'm convinced the majority do with long-time regulars, its alarming to see how many will do it with new people they have never met or talked to for $40 extra or doubling the rate. I tend to avoid those ones because the liklihood they have something is greater. In case you were wondering who they were, many of them don't advertise anymore but the four that are popular here are Baby, Angel / Haze, Tampa Haze, and Meena. There were many more, but those had no issues with barebacking. I ended the convos immediately.
HarryKrishnah
08-03-15, 10:11
The key phrase to listen to here is "You're not a doctor" and to add to it, I'm assuming you're not a health professional of any sorts. I personally don't care what you or the others do, but be careful about giving people who may not be as "street smart" as you a false sense of bravado and will use this to make stupid choices. I found a lot of things wrong with what you wrote, but mostly that it seems to all be fueled by your views on being PC. HIV is real, the stats prove that gay guys are 20 x more likely to get it, but that does not reduce the fact that hetero partners still do. While anectodal evidence is good to put things into perspective, it is just anecdotal.
While on this topic, it's absurd how many providers do BBFS. Using a fake number, I generally try to see if any prospective provider does BBFS and while I'm convinced the majority do with long-time regulars, its alarming to see how many will do it with new people they have never met or talked to for $40 extra or doubling the rate. I tend to avoid those ones because the liklihood they have something is greater. In case you were wondering who they were, many of them don't advertise anymore but the four that are popular here are Baby, Angel / Haze, Tampa Haze, and Meena. There were many more, but those had no issues with barebacking. I ended the convos immediately.There are no documented cases of catching hiv from BBBJ receptive. Hiv is actually not easily transmitted. Numbers and statistics are in the link below. Nonetheless you're nuts if you are barebacking hookers.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html
Gonorhhea is the thing that keeps me up at night on the rare occasion I'll receive a BBBJ. The risks there are very real and it's becoming more and more difficult to treat.
Vurt Da Furk
08-03-15, 10:19
The key phrase to listen to here is "You're not a doctor" and to add to it, I'm assuming you're not a health professional of any sorts. I personally don't care what you or the others do, but be careful about giving people who may not be as "street smart" as you a false sense of bravado and will use this to make stupid choices. I found a lot of things wrong with what you wrote, but mostly that it seems to all be fueled by your views on being PC. HIV is real, the stats prove that gay guys are 20 x more likely to get it, but that does not reduce the fact that hetero partners still do. While anectodal evidence is good to put things into perspective, it is just anecdotal.
While on this topic, it's absurd how many providers do BBFS. Using a fake number, I generally try to see if any prospective provider does BBFS and while I'm convinced the majority do with long-time regulars, its alarming to see how many will do it with new people they have never met or talked to for $40 extra or doubling the rate. I tend to avoid those ones because the liklihood they have something is greater. In case you were wondering who they were, many of them don't advertise anymore but the four that are popular here are Baby, Angel / Haze, Tampa Haze, and Meena. There were many more, but those had no issues with barebacking. I ended the convos immediately.I'd also like to add: A women can look completely healthy and clean but could be carrying STI's, either knowingly or unknowingly. Do your research, play it safe, and think with your big head not your little one.
There are no documented cases of catching hiv from BBBJ receptive. Hiv is actually not easily transmitted. Numbers and statistics are in the link below. Nonetheless you're nuts if you are barebacking hookers.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html
Gonorhhea is the thing that keeps me up at night on the rare occasion I'll receive a BBBJ. The risks there are very real and it's becoming more and more difficult to treat.What Harry said. All exactly true and correct. I don't advocate barebacking hookers; simply that you have bigger things to worry about than catching HIV from heterosexual contact, no matter who it's with. And to further agree with Harry, the AB-resistant "oldies but goodies" are the things you should be worrying about. As for "monfortu," no, I'm not a doctor, nor is the person who made the original HIV post that I piggybacked on. The doctors are the ones who overtreat with ABs who are responsible for the resurgence in previously-endangered STDs, and also, doctors are the ones who will jump to give a pill for blood pressure that they've been given a kickback by the pharmaceutical co to push, before telling you that all you need to do in 90% of cases is cut out drinking and smoking, and get off your lazy ass and move. Do you believe everything the government tells you too?
Also, to be clear, in reference to the hetero risk, we're talking specifically about risks to the GIVER (male), not the taker (female). BBFS is far riskier to the female in this case, but still much harder to catch than through anal sex.
Antibiotics need to be in the right dose for the right thing. Some antibiotics interfere with others etc. Certain other medicines interfere with antibiotics etc. Popping antibiotics every time one gets a scare not such a not idea. One can get antibiotics south of the border. Consequently everything there is resistant.
To them.
Get scared. My advice. See a doc who knows what they are doing. Besides, viruses aren't affected by antibiotics. HPV and HSV most likely things around besides the clap. HIV less so but more scarey potential outcome.
There is evidence that if you get one of the supposedly incurable things like HIV, HSV. If diagnosed very early. Bombing them with antivirals might actually prevent the infection.
Proper treatment takes knowledge and diagnosis. Cocktail carpet bombing not such a hot idea.
Beside, lots and lots of internet scams out there. How you know you aren't getting just sugar pills If you take the over the counter things (eg. Melatonin etc) from real pharmacies etc. Of every ten bottles, most won't have any say melatonin in them. One or.
Two might have a trace and one have a dangerously high level. Wolves know to scam you and not put any in so no danger of harming you. So beware of wolves just taking your $$ .Bombing HIV with antivirals with what? Look once the infection hits you it is automatically stuck permanently to your DNA. You will die! You my live another year or so with GREAT MEDS that none of you can get, but you'll still be sick. Once HIV develops into AIDS and IT WILL you will not die of AIDS but from pneumonia or some type of sickness because your body can't fight it off because your immune system is gone. As far as the rest that's been said I've already spent to much time on this one point. BUT stop sleeping with prostitutes without condoms and stop getting BBBJ! All your doing is spreading your disease.
Trust Lust
08-09-15, 22:23
Back, before I my testosterone was to have been used up for me to been rendered vasectomy worthy, I managed to have an offshore bank account set up for any unexpected abortion expenses. For me abortion is the best form of birth control anyway. I have known several darling angels, who were to have had several abortions, and were to have become infertile as a result. How pleasurable was it, to be able to fuck these gals and go to church claiming, "Oh, Maggie and I are trying so hard to have children, but no matter, how hard we try, nothing but ecstatic feelings happen. " The preacher would exclaim, "Keep on trying Trust Lust, and I will pray that Maggie conceives. " Well, just fine, because God's will didn't turn out to be in snych with the preacher's. God or the Devil must have gone on to bless me with being able to use the Barclay account for more P4 P, instead of abortion expenses, too. Oh well, six months after my vasectomy, any inkling of God fearing was to have been completely removed forever.
I decided to write this as result of some birth control pill mention in a prior safe sex report. One of my regulars was to have used them. In addition I remember having the hardest time getting her to go bare back. She was always threatening to emasculate me, upon ever catching the clap etc, from me. We both were always able to wash out our holes, after fucking, so at least I never had to worry about catching anything from her. Damned, though, were those birth control pills she was taking. Boy did they lower the temperature of her ****. She'd keep insisting, she couldn't have a baby on top of that. Childhood incest with her father was to have been the blame.
Lai Herbert
08-28-15, 02:19
Condoms don't protect you from the surface contact STDs such as herpes and genital warts. Not passing judgment or trying to ruin anyone's day. Being exposed directly to the virus in question is the issue and that virus can be present in many areas not covered by a condom.Don't use govt. Condom and prostitute condom which she carries, You have to always buy flavor or branded before sex, this is my personal experience when I have visited in London. It is awesome place for ESCORTS SERVICES.
Discovered a bump on my member and it freaked me out. The doctor informed me it was simply a cyst. HPV transmission happens when there is HPV warts present. The HPV warts look like cauliflower with multiple bumps. There is also lesions on the tounge (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168039/ ). So it is a good idea to inspect the girls mouth if you are getting BBJ. There is also the risk from cunnilingus and rimming if HPV warts is present.
DickJohnson
10-22-15, 10:42
I had just arrived in Southeast Asia and was assigned to a platoon. Soon after my platoon sergeant gathered the cherries and told us. "I know you guys are going to be fucking these girls so here's a little advice" He said " after your done fucking immediately get up and take a piss" Its not proven Medicallly, but when you think about it how else can germs get into our bodies? Through our urethra or piss hole. If you have a cut on your dick that's a different story. While there I did many without latex and I never caught shit. Other guys didn't heed the warning and were seeing the medics often. These days I use latex but occasionally when I feel comfortable with her I do without and head right for the toilet after.
I have heard this as well. It would be interesting to see a study. It is probably a good a good idea to use antibacterial wipe or fluid. I have a small bottle, but wipe seems more convenient.
I had just arrived in Southeast Asia and was assigned to a platoon. Soon after my platoon sergeant gathered the cherries and told us. "I know you guys are going to be fucking these girls so here's a little advice" He said " after your done fucking immediately get up and take a piss" Its not proven Medicallly, but when you think about it how else can germs get into our bodies? Through our urethra or piss hole. If you have a cut on your dick that's a different story. While there I did many without latex and I never caught shit. Other guys didn't heed the warning and were seeing the medics often. These days I use latex but occasionally when I feel comfortable with her I do without and head right for the toilet after.
Trust Lust
10-23-15, 04:58
Back in the early Eighties, the flight surgeon was to address his audience of swabies with the strict advice that they bathe directly after P4 P. Can't get much better than that. This happened to be from the mouth of one able to handle four years of math, physics, and chemistry, after high school; make A's in it, and then go on to get an MD on his name. So what, on the other hand, people get sick; go to the hospital, and die as a result of the filth they encounter there.
Along these lines, I happened to eavesdrop on a conversation between a couple of bums, at the Whataburger, the other day. These ole boys were following my advice of douching with mild Clorox solution after their bare back P4 P with a known AIDS infected SW. I remember strictly admonishing them that hogs aren't humans, but that I always clean my pigs up with this same solution upon castrating them. This way, I never even occasionally lose a pig because of infection from the operation. All this idiot rejoinder about pig heart valves and hides, being used on ailing humans, ended up being the result of my turned around advice, so I cordially smiled and bid them good day.
What I found striking about their own recent discussion, the other day, was that they were gloating on and on about having donated plasma on regular basis and never coming up positive for hepatitis, AIDS, or any STD. Not only that, but they claim to have seen known bare backing SW's in the center donating. I guess I'm safe with my attitude, then, that I'm going to stay the hell away from hospitals for fear of of all of the killer bugs that I stand a chance of catching there. Good chance the tests they give there aren't accurate, anway, huh? That or it's utter baloney that one is going to catch AIDS having bare back heterosexual intercourse.
Param Ahmad
11-12-15, 23:10
the Unique Free, with the wide flange at the base that covers the pubic area. .... I haven't yet been able to find a source for these. Try eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Pasante-Unique-Non-latex-Condoms-Post-Genuine-Stock-Seller-/251483529204?hash=item3a8d961ff4:g:beoAAOxygPtSuJN0.
Took a ride at daylight.
Maria. Ricin pussy was out.
I sawTiffany waiting for a bus going to visit her kids she told me Sat.
Saw Sarah & it was hard not to pick her up. Saw Christy & a couple small chicks & one old one.
Talked to a woman who walked over said you stopped for me? I said yes need a ride she said why I LOL said guess not she wasn't a walker.
Talked to another who wanted to get in if I was Bill asked me 5-6 times if I was Bill. Someone must have sent her to make good on somethingy.
Ended up picking up Maria 25-35 hard to tell she never asked. Nice body 30 FS & she was okay fucking W / O cover I wasn't a she's a heroin addict like all of them. Knew her via Stephanie but never scooped her up before. So fucked her diff positions. Pumped her mouth from top position she swallowed every drop.
Actually gives good steady BBBJ.
Desperate times I may repeat.Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.
ManFourWoman
11-19-15, 10:25
Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.Actually is pretty hard, not impossible, but hard to get AIDS from BBBJ.
Talk to your Dr as I have with more then a few. All even stated vaginal intercourse is a tough one too but can happen due to open sores on either party. I never screw w / o a wrapper BBBJ I don't personal choice & recommend you do what you need to do to feel safe.
Ricin pussy was out.Ricin? First we have to worry about STDs. Now poison? LOL.
ManFourWoman
11-19-15, 12:42
Ricin? First we have to worry about STDs. Now poison? LOL.Bahahaa bahahaa. Haha.
HornyTwist
11-19-15, 17:33
Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.Finally, someone says it. I always wonder, both mouth and vagina are "mucosal membranes" medically. Yet everybody thinks that BBBJ is safer than BBFS.
LonelyGuy1976
11-19-15, 17:35
Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.While its possible its very unprobable. Its not even close.
ManFourWoman
11-19-15, 17:51
Oral sex is much less risky than anal or vaginal sex – but HIV still can enter through open cuts and sores, or possibly by infecting the lining of the mouth. There are some documented cases of people getting HIV through their mouth.
Once semen gets past the mouth, stomach acid and enzymes in the esophagus kill the virus. So swallowing or spitting out semen (cum or precum) reduces your risk for HIV, compared with letting it sit in your mouth.
A popular jingle is: Spit or Swallow, Don't Let it Wallow.
To reduce your risk even more, make sure you keep the mucous membranes in your mouth healthy – don't perform oral for about 45 minutes after you brush your teeth, floss, or engage in any other aggravating oral behavior, and not at all when you have open sores.
Remember, while the chance of catching HIV from oral sex is very low, you can easily catch other STDs, in particular gonorrhea and chlamydia.
While its possible its very unprobable. Its not even close.AIDS highly unlikely due to the viral load being low in saliva. However, other STDs especially gonorrhea have much higher rates of transmission as the infection can flourish in the throat.
Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.
While its possible its very unprobable. Its not even close.
AIDS highly unlikely due to the viral load being low in saliva. However, other STDs especially gonorrhea have much higher rates of transmission as the infection can flourish in the throat.About 15 years ago I got gonorrhea from a car date BBBJ. A few years later got it again from an escort date that was bbbj and cfs.
Don't you people know BBBJ is pretty much the same as BBFS when it comes to diseases.Man, I don't know where your getting your information but BBBJ and BBFS are not even close having the same incident rates of stds, BBFS definitely has a greater probability of transmittable stds. If you will review the work done on stds by The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta Ga, what you will find is, stds transmitted by oral sex while not unheard of are very unlikely, stds transmitted by normal sex while more likely to occur then while having oral sex the incident rate is still very low. Catching an std while having oral sex is highly unlikely, catching an std while having regular sex while still unlikely has a much higher occurrence rate than oral sex. Bottom line is while both practices have a transmittance rate, oral sex has a transmission rate that's considerably lower than normal sex. Neither practice is not with out it's dangers but BBBJ enthusiasts have a far better chance of non std occurrence than BBFS participants. I've participated in both practices and I'm not passing judgement in any way just passing along information. Don't believe me? Go read the the info for yourself, it's available for anyone that wants to take the time to find and look at it. JD.
BudBowl2001
11-21-15, 10:07
About 15 years ago I got gonorrhea from a car date BBBJ. A few years later got it again from an escort date that was bbbj and cfs.Number 6 stay away from number 7. LOL.
HornyTwist
11-21-15, 20:52
A few interesting opinions there.
I would say though, that thinking that it is " less likely" to get STD from BBBJ is just a comforting thought.
For example, even if its standard incidence is 0. 01%, to one who gets STD, incidence is 100 %.
Not to forget, that we are dealing with a very high risk population here. (most of the the girls have had sex with hundreds of men, thousands of time).
About 15 years ago I got gonorrhea from a car date BBBJ. A few years later got it again from an escort date that was bbbj and cfs.I have a buddy that had worse luck. He's not a monger and certainly not interested in p4 p anymore. Both times he picked up an SW he got ghonnorea from BBBJ. After reading the CDC research after the first time he decided he was just incredibly unlucky. So he gave it another shot so to speak and got it again. He decided the game wasnt for him. Is he the unluckiest sob on the planet. Probably. Fact is for him infection rate was 100% and guys like him don't show up in CDC data because the go to paid healthcare.
Member #5136
11-23-15, 18:31
If a girl is just sucking on your head, just make sure she doesn't have a cold sore and your good to go.
Gonorrhea lives in the back of the throat, and if you are getting a deep BJ that hits the back of her throat then the risk of transmission is high.
But, you get a shot in the ass and you're right as rain. The Herp is what scares me more than anything.
Hi Guys,
I dreamt of Henrioco spinner or Caitlin last night and during the encounter my condom broke, I didn't feel it till I pull out ready to pop. I am really scared right now, not sure what would happen. Does anyone have good suggestion, do you know any place to go for discrete treatment. Did some internet searching and found PEP http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/pep.html, is good to consider to prevent anything really bad. Can you guys suggest where I can get prescription without using my insurance or identity? Any suggestions are welcome, please PM me if you don't want to post in the board.
Member #5136
11-24-15, 23:20
Hi Guys,
I dreamt of Henrioco spinner or Caitlin last night and during the encounter my condom broke, I didn't feel it till I pull out ready to pop. I am really scared right now, not sure what would happen. Does anyone have good suggestion, do you know any place to go for discrete treatment. Did some internet searching and found PEP http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/pep.html, is good to consider to prevent anything really bad. Can you guys suggest where I can get prescription without using my insurance or identity? Any suggestions are welcome, please PM me if you don't want to post in the board.Anyone who's had this happen knows it's nerve racking. Odds are you're fine, but if I'm you here's what I do:
*if you're very worried about HIV buy a test (oraquick) and pay her to take it. Results take 20 minutes, and if she s negative there's no need for PEP.
* assuming she's negative for his, I would wait a week or so to see if symptoms show up. If none appear and you want peace of mind you can test w / std express or another reputable online company. In the unlikely event you have something they will have a dr call in an Rx to treat chlamydia or gonorrhea. If you ARE showing symptoms get to a local health department as they have by far the most knowledge in treating a curing run of the mill STDs.
* of course if she tests positive you need to get to an emergency room and get on PEP.
Relax. Odds are you're fine. Try and stay calm and let reason / logic get you through.
Anyone who's had this happen knows it's nerve racking. Odds are you're fine, but if I'm you here's what I do:
*if you're very worried about HIV buy a test (oraquick) and pay her to take it. Results take 20 minutes, and if she s negative there's no need for PEP.
* assuming she's negative for his, I would wait a week or so to see if symptoms show up. If none appear and you want peace of mind you can test w / std express or another reputable online company. In the unlikely event you have something they will have a dr call in an Rx to treat chlamydia or gonorrhea. If you ARE showing symptoms get to a local health department as they have by far the most knowledge in treating a curing run of the mill STDs.
* of course if she tests positive you need to get to an emergency room and get on PEP.
Relax. Odds are you're fine. Try and stay calm and let reason / logic get you through.Dude, this is great idea. Thanks, if she tests negative for HIV that will be lot less stress. If she is positive that means I have to go ER. Great advice! Still on 40 hours so I have some time.
Member #5136
11-25-15, 23:33
Dude, this is great idea. Thanks, if she tests negative for HIV that will be lot less stress. If she is positive that means I have to go ER. Great advice! Still on 40 hours so I have some time.Let us know how things go.
Anyone who's had this happen knows it's nerve racking. Odds are you're fine, but if I'm you here's what I do:
*if you're very worried about HIV buy a test (oraquick) and pay her to take it. Results take 20 minutes, and if she s negative there's no need for PEP.
* assuming she's negative for his, I would wait a week or so to see if symptoms show up. If none appear and you want peace of mind you can test w / std express or another reputable online company. In the unlikely event you have something they will have a dr call in an Rx to treat chlamydia or gonorrhea. If you ARE showing symptoms get to a local health department as they have by far the most knowledge in treating a curing run of the mill STDs.
* of course if she tests positive you need to get to an emergency room and get on PEP.
Relax. Odds are you're fine. Try and stay calm and let reason / logic get you through.Once Again thanks a bunch, as you advised, I visited her and did Oraquick test, which came out negative. But those 20 minutes were really long. You saved me great deal of trouble, I will still be on lookout for other STI, but the big one is out of question now.
Ozymandias
12-17-15, 11:52
Creflo (love the name).
3) Can't agree with you here. Lots of mongers go BBFS with SWs and report no issues. There are medical people on this forum that have convincingly argued that BBBJ is more risky than BBFS. Not endorsing either way but this is open for (heated) debate.
Safe hunting.Just to throw some numbers out there:
If you're a man, and you have sex with a woman who IS HIV positive, you have a 1 in 2500 chance to get infected (if you actually inject HIV-infected blood into yourself, it's 1 in 500, to give a sense of the virility of the virus).
Now, Atlanta is one of the top cities for HIV infection, and mostly it's in the lower income black community (where almost all SWs come from, of course); about 75% of that is gay black men. Of course, SWs could be sharing needles with their gay black friends, or fucking switch-hitters, or whatever. In Atlanta, about 0. 25% of black women are HIV positive (1 in 400), so just to ballpark it, let's say SWs are ten times more likely to be infected, and that gives us about 1 in 40 (this is an off the cuff ballpark, since I don't have time to review CDC data at the moment.).
That gives us an aggregate risk, if you stick your dick into random, black SW pussy, of about a 1 in 100,000 chance of HIV infection. It's not really very likely (to compare, you have a 1 in 12000 chance of being struck by lightning during an 80 year lifespan). Of course, if you're fucking SWs daily on the way home from work, you'll elevate your risk considerably.
But I'd say fear of HIV infection isn't a rational basis for declining BBFS; arrest and robbery are probably the BIG risks.
(The other big risk is chlamydia; if you fuck 34 random women, you'll probably contract a chlamydial infection, and it's especially rampant among young black women. So if you play raw with SWs fairly often, just consider it a reality that you'll be downing a gram of azithromycin from time to time!
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Just to throw some numbers out there:
If you're a man, and you have sex with a woman who IS HIV positive, you have a 1 in 2500 chance to get infected (if you actually inject HIV-infected blood into yourself, it's 1 in 500, to give a sense of the virility of the virus).
Now, Atlanta is one of the top cities for HIV infection, and mostly it's in the lower income black community (where almost all SWs come from, of course); about 75% of that is gay black men. Of course, SWs could be sharing needles with their gay black friends, or fucking switch-hitters, or whatever. In Atlanta, about 0. 25% of black women are HIV positive (1 in 400), so just to ballpark it, let's say SWs are ten times more likely to be infected, and that gives us about 1 in 40 (this is an off the cuff ballpark, since I don't have time to review CDC data at the moment.).
That gives us an aggregate risk, if you stick your dick into random, black SW pussy, of about a 1 in 100,000 chance of HIV infection. It's not really very likely (to compare, you have a 1 in 12000 chance of being struck by lightning during an 80 year lifespan). Of course, if you're fucking SWs daily on the way home from work, you'll elevate your risk considerably.
But I'd say fear of HIV infection isn't a rational basis for declining BBFS; arrest and robbery are probably the BIG risks.
(The other big risk is chlamydia; if you fuck 34 random women, you'll probably contract a chlamydial infection, and it's especially rampant among young black women. So if you play raw with SWs fairly often, just consider it a reality that you'll be downing a gram of azithromycin from time to time!
O.How I admit in the pass the only thing I contacted was Gonnerhea but not sure it was from a SW cause I had sex with lots of females about half I didn't use protection.
Trust Lust
12-18-15, 03:41
My mongering, on a regular basis, was to begin exactly 26 years ago, today, and I've always made it strict policy to go bare back. Masturbation beats rubbering up. About half the time, however, SW's insist. Once I'm unable to work things out with them upon a couple of dates, I dump them. In the meantime I try to make regulars out of the willing.
As I've mentioned repeatedly, I take a cup of water and slosh a couple of cap fulls of Clorox in it. Immediately, after fucking, I wash my dick with this solution. I even take a syringe full of it to douche out my pisser. They use about the same thing, Dakin's solution, to wash out wounds, before butchering people at the hospital. People in Mexico even put a little bit of bleach in their drinking water. How else do they get by down there especially in the prisons? Any date, when I rent a notel, I Clorox the shower basin to avoid athlete's foot, and as always bathe thoroughly after any date. Not only that, but I find it expedient to hose down the bed with Raid. Once you get scabbies or a bunch of chigger bites, some previous moger has tracked in, you will, yourself, be convinced that STD's come in other shapes, forms, and fashions besides what is pussie juice transmitted.
Trust Lust
12-18-15, 20:54
One of my regulars has had four kids via abortion therefore leaving her pussie with her maiden rugae. Her pussie is a perfect warm creamy fit, and I worship her pussie more than would God or Satan provided I was able to actually comprehend the ethereal. All this aside, however, save for recommendations, as to safe sex mental health aspects, I've made some unusual observations pertaining to Astroglide usage.
My regular lets me go bare back, but only calls me up during Jane Flow time. As I've mentioned her pussie will slide the way a gal's does, after being run through with a couple of babies, but has maintained a superlative texture as result of her record of having much more premature aborts. We fuck for ten or fifteen minutes, only for her exuberant creaminess to become all gritty directly as I shoot my load. When I pull out, I notice the Astrolglide has formed a condom like sheath over my dick. Her menstrual shedding covers the outside of this with the same rugae texture as the walls of her pussie has. This occurs with th exception of where the Asroglide sheath finally came to rupture.
Point is, that I more than likely had something tantamount to a rubber with the Astroglide along with my regular's shedding being less likely, than fresh bleeding, to be dieseased. These are things the MD won't answer, when asked about, or may not even know for himself. One can, nevertheless, read up on their own. With Astroglide along with Jane Flow fucking, I'm pretty sure I get even more time to clean up, after fucking, before any AIDS or less than that has a chance to reach titer.
She is most def 'hooked' on that 'stuff'. There is not a middle ground when it comes to addiction and escorts. They are either clean (rare) or full blown addicts. I know several of these girls personally outside of the 'hobby', and know there habits. I've seen the large redhead former BP girl at NA meetings, and surprise, she doesn't post anymore. Several other girls I know from outside the hobby and they don't even know I know what they do and they are all on powerful drugs. Other girls I know from a friendship with a well known long term provider, ie: from in the hobby are also on heavy amounts of hard drugs. The girls who do this full time are living very hard lives and often come from extremly disfunctional families with trauma dating back to childhood. Always remember that when you are dealing with them. It is easy to think of them as ****** and nothing more, but they are people with families who are from this community too. Many of them went to school here and have families / friends that know what they do and why they do it and it is a life full of pain and shame for many of them. The provider I know best is borderline insane from the life and has attempted suicide more than once and compared to the other providers I know her drug use is pretty calm. There girls, the full timers that is, live day to day, call to call, hoping to make enough money to keep a hotel room, have a few meals, and support their habbit, and maybe have something left to help support a kid or two (or 4). When you realize they deal with mostly sleazy scum bags who use them like animals to fulfill perverted fantasies constantly it shouldn't be surprising they resort to harder drugs. And I promise you that they see calls as nothing more than a paycheck, there is no emotional connection and 99 percent of them don't enjoy their visit with you no matter what you think. They don't respect you, don't like you, and aren't attracted to you; they want you to think you are different than the rest, but you aren't. I'm saying this in general about all hobbyists, not anyone specific. If it bothers any of you that the girls are 'out of it' or 'loopy' or have needle marks or smoky and dirty hotel rooms then you need to take a min to think about the world you are entering when you step into their rooms and lives. This is a hobby for you, but a life for them, and make no mistake it is a very hard life even for the most attractive and well reviewed providers. I've been involved in other aspects of this hobby and have known a number of providers in town over the last several years and feel a bit of empathy for them. I don't feel that bad because there are other options in life for these women, they chose to do what they do and most in gboro don't have pimps or anyone forcing them to do things they don't want to do; they are however humans living a dark lifestyle and where there is a life of pain and a history of abuse there is almost always substance abuse. If you don't know by now there is a huge drug epidemic in Guildford county as there is all over these days and backpage girls are very likely to be involved in that side of the business too. No one out there is doing this to save money to buy a condo or a nice car or an education, they are doing it to survive and / or support an expensive habit. That is not news to everyone here, but some posts I've read recently seem really naive. When you pay these girls, you can rest assured that many times that money is going straight to a dealer. If that bothers you then you are in the wrong hobby and need to get a normal girl friend. If it doesn't, and it shouldn't, good. Just a reality check post.I tried posting this experience earlier but I was edited for including an arrest report. I have removed references to that and reposting this review. Somebody wishes they had seen your post back in 3rd week of October when he paid her and her friend a visit. Probably the biggest mistake of his life. A visit he have been regretting every day since. She is definitely very hooked on drugs. The guy had the bad luck of cancelling an event the day he went to their place and brought forward his visit one day. Its bad luck because the next day she wasn't available and he would have missed her and her friend which would have been a wonderful blessing that is immeasurable. They are / were extremely high volume girls; very very high volume. Another guy arrived just when the guy I know was still there and they rushed him into another room while they welcomed the new guy and pretending that they had been patiently waiting for the guy all along. After they took the new guy into the room another younger girl (might have been one of their daughters) they were living with now let him out of the house The guy I know has used about 6 to 7 providers and always used latex even for BJ's. After using a massage parlour with a happy ending 3 weeks prior he decided to get a BBBJ and that is a decision he started regretting after seeing them take another guy just like 3 minutes after they were giving him BBBJ to finish they were with another guy mostly because of how potentially easy it was to contract stuff. Well about a week later his fears were confirmed and since then till now its been a total nightmare. 3 minutes BBBJ and a 15 second deepthroat in a 20 min visit has translated in almost $1,000 in out of pocket treatments and complications requiring a urologist visit & hopes of avoiding surgery or permanent damage after almost 3 months of agony with no idea when this will all end. If he had walked in and given them $500 and walked out without touching them he would have come out ahead compared to months of not being able to sit down at work and being forced to lay down all the time. A 30 min visit could easily change your life in ways you never imagined. Most of these girls are not your imaginary booty call substitute or a regular hookup substitute or "friends with benefits" substitute or "kept lady" substitute. They are living hard lives and just want your money for the next fix. They have next to no desire to see you and just need a fix and are doing anything to get that fix. 2 minutes before you came in it was another guy & 2 minutes after you leave its still another guy. They don't care about you nor are they looking out for your health or well being. Those of you who couldn't connect with them in late October / early November got really really lucky. Dodged a real bullet there unless they were the type that did CBJ 100% of the time with no exception. Always do a CBJ with these BP and other girls. Always without exception guys. You are not missing anything and its not less enjoyable if you realize what you are protecting yourself from.
IluvSmellyFish
01-15-16, 22:15
Hankmoody. Missed your post. You make great points. At the end of the day addicts are more likely to be possible transmitters of HIV and disease. More so in VA and states that don't have clean needle programs (did not know va did not, so even better info).
I for one would never bare back a BP girl and would never bare back an iv drug user. Regardless if they were from a state with a clean needle program or not.
I've never been an iv drug user, but in my younger days did plenty of stupid things when I was drunk. I can't imagine that every young 20 something girl looking for her next fix is going to tell the guy who is giving that fix to her. "hey buddy, before you fill that needle your about to give me, I need to know if its fresh. You know we live in a state with a clean needle program and while I want my fix, I prefer if that fix comes from a clean needle. ".
Hell, I've barebacked a few babies who were completely clean college girls, after a night of drinks. And in my current station in life, that move couldn't have been more stupid.
Just because a pot / baby lives in a clean needle program state doesn't make her free of disease.
As a result of your post, I will be even more careful with pots / babies in va (since I tend to get them to the FC pretty quickly and don't always have the time to vet whether they might be an iv drug user).
The sharing of needles is indeed one of the primary modes of HIV transmission and also Hepatitis. And while you would think that all states would have a needle exchange program, many do not. Virginia, for instance, does not. This in fact does lead to the addicts sharing needles. Because of this, I think you need to rethink your narrow minded comment. The bottom line is that in many states, like Virginia, the addicts can have a difficult time finding clean needles.
Cephlapod Love
01-16-16, 00:54
Hankmoody. Missed your post. You make great points. At the end of the day addicts are more likely to be possible transmitters of HIV and disease. More so in VA and states that don't have clean needle programs (did not know va did not, so even better info).
I for one would never bare back a BP girl and would never bare back an iv drug user. Regardless if they were from a state with a clean needle program or not.
I've never been an iv drug user, but in my younger days did plenty of stupid things when I was drunk. I can't imagine that every young 20 something girl looking for her next fix is going to tell the guy who is giving that fix to her. "hey buddy, before you fill that needle your about to give me, I need to know if its fresh. You know we live in a state with a clean needle program and while I want my fix, I prefer if that fix comes from a clean needle. ".
Hell, I've barebacked a few babies who were completely clean college girls, after a night of drinks. And in my current station in life, that move couldn't have been more stupid.
Just because a pot / baby lives in a clean needle program state doesn't make her free of disease.
As a result of your post, I will be even more careful with pots / babies in va (since I tend to get them to the FC pretty quickly and don't always have the time to vet whether they might be an iv drug user).Now don't get this wrong- I AM NOT ADVOCATING BBFS WITH ANYONE. If you want to stay safe: Wrap it up!
But the percentage of people in VA that are HIV+ is relatively low. (1) The county with the highest percent of people living with HIV is 1,025 per 100,000 or 1.025%.
Other Facts from VA Dept of health
Males represent 74% of the total HIV- positive population.
Nearly three-quarters of persons living with HIV disease were ages 40 and older.
In the 20-24 age range the infection rate is 143/100,000 or 0. 143%.
In the 25-29 age range the infection rate is 279/100,000 or 0. 279%.
In fact, for White, non-Hispanic females the infection rate is 38/100,000 or 0. 038% (about one-third of one-tenth of a percent!)
47% of all living cases of HIV disease were attributed to male-to-male sexual contact (MSM).
Heterosexual contact represented 19% of the living cases.
11% of cases were attributed to injection drug use (IDU).
So take a look at the fact sheet prepared by the VA Dept of Health for how wide spread HIV. In another state? Look up your state's HD statistics.
(1)https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/epidemiology/DiseasePrevention/Programs/HIV-AIDS/SurveillanceProgram/documents/pdf/HIV%20Epidemiology%20Profile/2015/PLWH%202014%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf.
These are the facts - what one does with them or how they choose to manage risk is their own business. But one fact remains, condom use is the best method, short of totally monogamous relationships, for avoiding HIV infection.
IluvSmellyFish
01-16-16, 01:52
Your post says all the facts that need to be said.
I think this thread got started when you called out posts that echoed concerns about hiv in iv drug users, by referring to those comments as narrow minded in an era when there are needle Exchange programs.
"But to assume just because a girl is using opiates that she has HIV or presents a risk is narrow-minded thinking."
Those are your words above - not mine. As a general rule, when you call out other posts and refer to them as narrow minded, it will cause certain folks to become defensive.
Other forums on the board may be not be as gentlemanly as the Richmond Sugar thread, but let's keep things civil here.
While others may not subscribe to your philosophies there no reason to denegrate. If you disagree, let others know you disagree, that it is your opinion, and move on. For example, in my humble opinion an 11% rate of hiv transmission is quite high and supports Hank Moody's post. Just as a correction in the market is defined by a 10% drop. 10% isn't a large percentage, but if hiv transmission is at stake, then 11% seems quite high to me.
As an aside, I have read your posts and commend you on the work you have put into the hobby. You appear to use the mid Atlantic as your playground as well, and are clearly well versed in all aspects of the hobby.
All I'm trying to say is that when you call out posts as narrow minded, you might find some blowback, especially here on the Richmond sugar thread where things are civil.
Now don't get this wrong- I AM NOT ADVOCATING BBFS WITH ANYONE. If you want to stay safe: Wrap it up!
But the percentage of people in VA that are HIV+ is relatively low. (1) The county with the highest percent of people living with HIV is 1,025 per 100,000 or 1.025%.
Other Facts from VA Dept of health
Males represent 74% of the total HIV- positive population.
Nearly three-quarters of persons living with HIV disease were ages 40 and older.
In the 20-24 age range the infection rate is 143/100,000 or 0. 143%.
In the 25-29 age range the infection rate is 279/100,000 or 0. 279%.
In fact, for White, non-Hispanic females the infection rate is 38/100,000 or 0. 038% (about one-third of one-tenth of a percent!)
47% of all living cases of HIV disease were attributed to male-to-male sexual contact (MSM).
Heterosexual contact represented 19% of the living cases.
11% of cases were attributed to injection drug use (IDU).
So take a look at the fact sheet prepared by the VA Dept of Health for how wide spread HIV. In another state? Look up your state's HD statistics.
(1)https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/epidemiology/DiseasePrevention/Programs/HIV-AIDS/SurveillanceProgram/documents/pdf/HIV%20Epidemiology%20Profile/2015/PLWH%202014%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf.
These are the facts - what one does with them or how they choose to manage risk is their own business. But one fact remains, condom use is the best method, short of totally monogamous relationships, for avoiding HIV infection.
Trust Lust
01-20-16, 00:33
In June of !995 I was able to watch a documentary on AIDS. A prominent internist from a large metropolitan hospital was addressing AIDS transmission issues. He took a tea strainer and was to pour water through it in effort to prove the ineffectiveness of condoms in prohibiting AIDS. However KRAZEE it may seem condoms are not the best way to prevent AIDS; no butt fucking and not sharing needles are. Simple fact of the matter someonse with AIDS wears a rubber and butt fucks you with blood in his cum to get into an abrasion in your ass, then you stand a good chance of catching it. Next you have to ask yourself about all the prime situations that have been available for you to catch the flu or common cold only to escape it. To sum it up, about the only way to steer clear of any virus is three square meals a day along with bathing and changing clothes after hanging out in such ridden situations.
My mind has been made up for a long time about the uselessness of rubbers. At work thought using a rubber for some manometer work would be clever only to make a mess of things as of the damned things not even being air tight. The administrator occasionally has scolded me for bragging about unsafe sex practices. Nevertheless, I can't see any merit in paying for pussie only to not get my full money's worth of pleasure from it.
ChrisPoontang
01-26-16, 13:21
Most of us are very careful who we visit. But this recent article on fox 11 caught my eye.
http://www.foxla.com/news/local-news/82363542-story
STDs on the rise across the country, especially in Los Angeles.
POSTED: JAN 25 2016 02:10 PM PST.
UPDATED: JAN 25 2016 02:11 PM PST.
LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Sexually transmitted diseases are on the rise across the nation, but the problem is particularly acute in Los Angeles County, it was reported Monday.
Not only does the county have the most cases, it also has some of the highest rates of chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis in California and the nation, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday morning.
Read the original latimes article here: http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-std-testing-20160124-story.html.
Don't know if the links will show up. But just search STD rise los Angeles fox and the report shows in the search. Hope this helps.Take a look at the LA casual encounters section of craigslist. Its filled to the brim with gay dudes.
Then look the Las Vegas casual encounters section of craigslist. There is a stark difference in every city except LA.
The gay guys in LA are constantly posting in the W4 M section as females and as "gloryholes".
You can try flagging their but its like playing whack-a-mole.
Most of us are very careful who we visit. But this recent article on fox 11 caught my eye.
http://www.foxla.com/news/local-news/82363542-story
STDs on the rise across the country, especially in Los Angeles.
POSTED: JAN 25 2016 02:10 PM PST.
UPDATED: JAN 25 2016 02:11 PM PST.
LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Sexually transmitted diseases are on the rise across the nation, but the problem is particularly acute in Los Angeles County, it was reported Monday.
Not only does the county have the most cases, it also has some of the highest rates of chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis in California and the nation, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday morning.
Read the original latimes article here: http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-std-testing-20160124-story.html.
Don't know if the links will show up. But just search STD rise los Angeles fox and the report shows in the search. Hope this helps.Saw this myself. There are those who swear that they've never caught anything doing BB, while others, myself included, prefer to take a precaution.
Just going bare feels right, whether BJ or FS, but I pick and choose my times based on member reviews of certain providers.
Regular checkups are a must, and while seeing this doesn't necessarily stop me from wanting to get at those who offer CIP, it does raise more awareness to those on either side- whether a monger or provider.
Stay safe and hopefully let it all be fun times and nothing less.
Tjinla2001
01-26-16, 20:02
I am always surprised that none of the mainstream newspapers ever quote the bareback beauties section or any of the other monger areas here or elsewhere. It would make for interesting reading if the LA Times interviewed some of the high profile cum dumps like Viet Kim, Lisa/CiCi, Jenny or Annie. Needless to say, I think there would be some negative feedback when the readers understood that single and married men clamor to have bareback sex with women who have each had unprotected relations with 10,000 to 40,000 men.
Christophe1
01-26-16, 20:41
I am always surprised that none of the mainstream newspapers ever quote the bareback beauties section or any of the other monger areas here or elsewhere. It would make for interesting reading if the LA Times interviewed some of the high profile cum dumps like Viet Kim, Lisa/CiCi, Jenny or Annie. Needless to say, I think there would be some negative feedback when the readers understood that single and married men clamor to have bareback sex with women who have each had unprotected relations with 10,000 to 40,000 men.No one wants to know the truth, they want sensational media coverage. Who wants to read the story of a single mother raising her child while employed in the first ever profession, being a Ho? Add in sex slavery, and gang violence, then you have a good reading investigational report. Some suits and badges can pat each other on the back, and it is win / win.
Thankfully, the crew knows that the sex slavers are just a tiny fraction of the salad mix. Unfortunately, it only takes 1 apple to spoil the whole batch.
Men make an infinite amount of jizz throughout life. Girls got a finite amount and have a set expiration date. Guys will be guys. Guys like the sluts.
What is the revealation of the story?
Member #1050
01-29-16, 02:55
Read the whole article. Young people under 25 are the culprits as they don't test themselves and spread mayhem. Although not mentioned in the article to be politically correct, infected blacks are the ones that make the numbers go off the charts.
"Some public health experts have blamed the heavy use of online dating apps, arguing that they lead to more casual sex among people 25 and younger, who are the most likely to be infected and also the least inclined to seek testing."
Saw this myself. There are those who swear that they've never caught anything doing BB, while others, myself included, prefer to take a precaution.
Just going bare feels right, whether BJ or FS, but I pick and choose my times based on member reviews of certain providers.
Regular checkups are a must, and while seeing this doesn't necessarily stop me from wanting to get at those who offer CIP, it does raise more awareness to those on either side- whether a monger or provider.
Stay safe and hopefully let it all be fun times and nothing less.
Read the whole article. Young people under 25 are the culprits as they don't test themselves and spread mayhem. Although not mentioned in the article to be politically correct, infected blacks are the ones that make the numbers go off the charts.
"Some public health experts have blamed the heavy use of online dating apps, arguing that they lead to more casual sex among people 25 and younger, who are the most likely to be infected and also the least inclined to seek testing."Yes, I read it. I also know that it is still a responsibility to the individual. Some choose not to get tested and take a preventative measure, while others won't even do BB anything because if the risks involved. I'm not saying there is a right and wrong way to go about this, but I can only speak for myself and get tested regularly because I know this hobby can become devastating if there is lack of knowledge or for the most part ignorance on the issue.
Online dating apps are only a small portion. Look at this field of hobbyists who seek BB. It's casual, yes, but it's beyond an age issue I think. I've known older patrons who never get tested and think the game is still fun, while some younger than me get tested for their own personal well being. It simply depends on the individual, and I'm not going to judge one person simply because he or she chooses not to get tested. Ignorance is bliss, and it can become an issue, but I can also understand the issue of not wanting to get tested in the first place.
One member gave me the best advice here. "Stay safe". In no way was he simply referring to covered jobs, either.
Cephlapod Love
02-02-16, 20:40
Eh, I see some discussion of an article in this thread and decided to look into the raw data, as provided by the LA County Dept of Health. Last published report (unless it has a new name? Was YE 2013. I admit, because of slants and biases, I hate looking at someone else's summary of data, so prefer going to the source of the data and looking at it myself. One can do that here:
http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/dhsp/Reports/HIV/2013AnnualHIVSurveillanceReport.pdf
What sticks out in this report is Table 18.
HIV DIAGNOSES AMONG WHITES BY GENDER, TRANSMISSION CATEGORY, AND YEAR OF DIAGNOSIS, REPORTED BY DECEMBER 31, 2013, LOS ANGELES COUNTY
Cumulative 1982-2013.
- For Males, 1% of HIV Infection was from Heterosexual contact. 87% from M2 M Sex, 3% IDU and 8% M2 M + IDU.
- For Females, IDU (Injection Drug Users) = 40%, Heterosexual contact = 52%.
Other tables show the rates for other classifications (ethnicities).
What is also interesting is the First Figure {see attached}.
Shows a decline by half of number of HIV cases diagnosed since 2007. A dramatic drop in HIV deaths and only a slow climb in the number of people living with an HIV infection in LA county. (Less than 50,000 people in LAC).
Rates of women living with HIV currently are 106 per 100,000 range or << 0. 1%.
Anyway, that raw data is here and one can read it for them self.
What I can't help but observe, and I have looked at a half dozen of these reports from across the USA.
General level of people living with HIV is in the 1% - 2% range.
Women tend to be order of magnitude lower, so less than 0. 1%.
Take out M2 M sexual contact and contact with IDUs and transmission rates are lower.
All fwiw.
Buster Hymen
02-02-16, 22:56
Man, I don't know where your getting your information but BBBJ and BBFS are not even close having the same incident rates of stds, BBFS definitely has a greater probability of transmittable stds. If you will review the work done on stds by The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta Ga, what you will find is, stds transmitted by oral sex while not unheard of are very unlikely, stds transmitted by normal sex while more likely to occur then while having oral sex the incident rate is still very low. Catching an std while having oral sex is highly unlikely, catching an std while having regular sex while still unlikely has a much higher occurrence rate than oral sex. Bottom line is while both practices have a transmittance rate, oral sex has a transmission rate that's considerably lower than normal sex. Neither practice is not with out it's dangers but BBBJ enthusiasts have a far better chance of non std occurrence than BBFS participants. I've participated in both practices and I'm not passing judgement in any way just passing along information. Don't believe me? Go read the the info for yourself, it's available for anyone that wants to take the time to find and look at it. JD.While this is an old post, I just read it and would like to comment. While you state that the CDC says that BBBJ is safer than BBFS, you are wrong about a key point. All of the CDC info is not supported by any research relevant to what we do, which is bang hookers. I have looked extensively for research that confirms the BBBJ vs BBFS safety comparison, and it doesn't exist, at least for our activity. Any research that has been done only takes into account a random person in the population, not a closed population.
I am not a doctor, but am a scientist in the medical industry.
Here is the reality of my own research. Talk to any street prostitute, and ask her the ratio of BJ's vs FS. I have done this, and it is surprising, it averages like 10 to 1. Then factor into account that there are tons of guys that go BBBJ but do CFS. So the ratio between hookers doing BBBJ to BBFS is much greater, like probably 50 to 1 (or more).
Then look at all the guys on these forums that have gotten a typical STD. Most get them from BBBJ. Basically what I am saying is the average street prostitute's pussy is cleaner than her mouth.
While all that I have posted is not true science in that it isn't based upon a good true scientific study, it is just as valid at the information provided by the CDC and others, because there are no studies that compare BBBJ to BBFS from streetwalkers. None.
For that reason, I maintain that BBBJ is far riskier to catch a common STD than BBFS. However, prevalence of BBFS is rapidly increasing, so I believe BBFS is becoming riskier as time goes on. There is a greater risk of catching HIV with BBFS than BBBJ, this is true, but not true for the most common STD's.
Cephlapod Love
02-03-16, 16:49
Any research that has been done only takes into account a random person in the population, not a closed population.
I am not a doctor, but am a scientist in the medical industry.
While all that I have posted is not true science in that it isn't based upon a good true scientific study, it is just as valid at the information provided by the CDC and others, because there are no studies that compare BBBJ to BBFS from streetwalkers. None.
For that reason, I maintain that BBBJ is far riskier to catch a common STD than BBFS. However, prevalence of BBFS is rapidly increasing, so I believe BBFS is becoming riskier as time goes on. There is a greater risk of catching HIV with BBFS than BBBJ, this is true, but not true for the most common STD's.You raise some good points. First while the rate of people living with an HIV infection runs in the 1% to 2% range generally, that figure holds true for a random person selected randomly from the population. So there would be a 98% chance one would never encounter someone with HIV.
BUT, the population of sex workers is a unique subset of the entire population and one that isn't broken out of the statistics. I suspect the rate of HIV infection in sex workers should be higher. How much? Who knows? And there-in lies the risk.
But looking at the overall statistics one seems "trends. ".
- Women are less likely to be living with HIV. Usually <1%.
- Whites are generally less likely to be living with HIV.
- Non- injection drug users (Non-IDUs) are less likely to be living with HIV.
So if one wants to reduce their risk, it seems like targeting white, non-IDU women would do that.
The rub is that Streetwalkers are more likely IDUs so that would drop them out of the low risk category. Of course, not to say that a high-priced escort could be a high functioning IDU. So looking for signs of that and avoiding IDUs seems prudent.
Now that said. I was tested at a free clinic in the heart of the "gayborhood" in a major metropolitan city. The RN there pointed out to me (to my shock & disbelief) that transmission of HIV to a male through normal vaginal intercourse was low. UNLESS one had cuts, sores. Raw skin or some other opening through the skin that would permit the virus to enter. Toss in anal sex and the risk goes WAY up! She also pointed out that HIV is no longer a death sentence, as with anti-retroviral drugs, HIV was a "manageable chronic condition!
I can't imagine that. As the safest way to protect yourself is wear a condom every time!
ManFourWoman
02-03-16, 18:01
You raise some good points. First while the rate of people living with an HIV infection runs in the 1% to 2% range generally, that figure holds true for a random person selected randomly from the population. So there would be a 98% chance one would never encounter someone with HIV.
BUT, the population of sex workers is a unique subset of the entire population and one that isn't broken out of the statistics. I suspect the rate of HIV infection in sex workers should be higher. How much? Who knows? And there-in lies the risk.
But looking at the overall statistics one seems "trends. ".
- Women are less likely to be living with HIV. Usually <1%.
- Whites are generally less likely to be living with HIV.
- Non- injection drug users (Non-IDUs) are less likely to be living with HIV.
So if one wants to reduce their risk, it seems like targeting white, non-IDU women would do that.
The rub is that Streetwalkers are more likely IDUs so that would drop them out of the low risk category. Of course, not to say that a high-priced escort could be a high functioning IDU. So looking for signs of that and avoiding IDUs seems prudent.
Now that said. I was tested at a free clinic in the heart of the "gayborhood" in a major metropolitan city. The RN there pointed out to me (to my shock & disbelief) that transmission of HIV to a male through normal vaginal intercourse was low. UNLESS one had cuts, sores. Raw skin or some other opening through the skin that would permit the virus to enter. Toss in anal sex and the risk goes WAY up! She also pointed out that HIV is no longer a death sentence, as with anti-retroviral drugs, HIV was a "manageable chronic condition!
I can't imagine that. As the safest way to protect yourself is wear a condom every time!I would have to add most of not all studies are leaning heavily towards the general population not a mongers life where we're smack dab right in the middle of the riskiest population! Including prostitutes, drug users and such.
I've been BBBJ & BBFS lots lately. I may just have to rethink my game!!
Buster Hymen
02-03-16, 20:45
You raise some good points. First while the rate of people living with an HIV infection runs in the 1% to 2% range generally, that figure holds true for a random person selected randomly from the population. So there would be a 98% chance one would never encounter someone with HIV.
BUT, the population of sex workers is a unique subset of the entire population and one that isn't broken out of the statistics. I suspect the rate of HIV infection in sex workers should be higher. How much? Who knows? And there-in lies the risk.
But looking at the overall statistics one seems "trends. ".
- Women are less likely to be living with HIV. Usually <1%.
- Whites are generally less likely to be living with HIV.
- Non- injection drug users (Non-IDUs) are less likely to be living with HIV.
So if one wants to reduce their risk, it seems like targeting white, non-IDU women would do that.
The rub is that Streetwalkers are more likely IDUs so that would drop them out of the low risk category. Of course, not to say that a high-priced escort could be a high functioning IDU. So looking for signs of that and avoiding IDUs seems prudent.
Now that said. I was tested at a free clinic in the heart of the "gayborhood" in a major metropolitan city. The RN there pointed out to me (to my shock & disbelief) that transmission of HIV to a male through normal vaginal intercourse was low. UNLESS one had cuts, sores. Raw skin or some other opening through the skin that would permit the virus to enter. Toss in anal sex and the risk goes WAY up! She also pointed out that HIV is no longer a death sentence, as with anti-retroviral drugs, HIV was a "manageable chronic condition!
I can't imagine that. As the safest way to protect yourself is wear a condom every time!Yes, you are entirely correct. I have been almost exclusively banging on average 1-2 girls a week BBFS for the last 3 years. So somewhere between 150-300 girls. I have not contracted any STD during this time. I get tested often, as some STD's do not show symptoms. Once a month I take a dose of Azithromycin just to knock out any latent nasties, mainly chlamydia since it is commonly caught and spread without males knowing they have it. I usually never get BBBJ, because as I have said before, I believe it is more common to contract gonorrhea and chlamydia via mouth than pussy. Also, while I don't wear a condom, I usually have a chemical condom of sorts. I mix up my own antibiotic lube. I start with Astroglide, and mix in a small amount of Chlorhexidine Gluconate into it. The most common brand of Chlorhexidine Gluconate cleanser is Hibiclens, but that stuff does not mix with Astroglide. I use the generic version from CVS, which dissolves readily with the lube. It smells a little florally, and it is a bit soapy, but if you don't put too much of it into the astroglide then the girls won't notice, and it has no problems that I can tell.
This may sound nutty, but it is actually based upon scientific studies. Astroglide by itself was found to inhibit both HSV and HIV. And Chlorhexidine Gluconate has residual bacterial inhibiting power, this is what many doctors use to scrub. At the very least, this replaces or dilutes the volume of pussy juice, so by that alone provides a bit of margin against catching anything.
I do not believe this is fail-safe, and know it is a matter of time that I will catch something, I have been lucky for the most part. I thought by now I would have caught something but I haven't. I would not knowingly bang someone that had HIV. But I will say that I found out that I was banging several girls that were positive, and I didn't catch it from them. (I don't bang them anymore, obviously).
Cephlapod Love
02-04-16, 16:12
Also, while I don't wear a condom, I usually have a chemical condom of sorts. I mix up my own antibiotic lube. I start with Astroglide, and mix in a small amount of Chlorhexidine Gluconate into it. The most common brand of Chlorhexidine Gluconate cleanser is Hibiclens, but that stuff does not mix with Astroglide. I use the generic version from CVS, which dissolves readily with the lube. It smells a little florally, and it is a bit soapy, but if you don't put too much of it into the astroglide then the girls won't notice, and it has no problems that I can tell.
This may sound nutty, but it is actually based upon scientific studies. Astroglide by itself was found to inhibit both HSV and HIV. And Chlorhexidine Gluconate has residual bacterial inhibiting power, this is what many doctors use to scrub. At the very least, this replaces or dilutes the volume of pussy juice, so by that alone provides a bit of margin against catching anything.
As you'll note from a prior post in this thread, I like to personally confirm data, statistics & claims. Would you be able to provide a link to the "scientific studies" that demonstrate Astroglide inhibits HSV & HIV?
I am aware of the antibiotic properties of Hibiclens and its use as a clean up agent in Hospitals.
Do you use the generic version of Hibiclens or Astroglide in your mix?
Fwiw, I quit using Astroglide as it dries out over time and vigorous F-ing and gets tacky. I prefer the non-silicon based lubes by WET.
On a side note, the drugs.com site has an archived page suggesting, nonoxynol-9, the main ingredient in spermicide has some efficacy for HIV inhibition in vitro. Remember in vitro is NOT in vivo!.
I found this PubMed citation on nonoxynol-9 and Chlamydia.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2832119
Member #5136
02-04-16, 16:26
While this is an old post, I just read it and would like to comment. While you state that the CDC says that BBBJ is safer than BBFS, you are wrong about a key point. All of the CDC info is not supported by any research relevant to what we do, which is bang hookers. I have looked extensively for research that confirms the BBBJ vs BBFS safety comparison, and it doesn't exist, at least for our activity. Any research that has been done only takes into account a random person in the population, not a closed population.
I am not a doctor, but am a scientist in the medical industry.
Here is the reality of my own research. Talk to any street prostitute, and ask her the ratio of BJ's vs FS. I have done this, and it is surprising, it averages like 10 to 1. Then factor into account that there are tons of guys that go BBBJ but do CFS. So the ratio between hookers doing BBBJ to BBFS is much greater, like probably 50 to 1 (or more).
Then look at all the guys on these forums that have gotten a typical STD. Most get them from BBBJ. Basically what I am saying is the average street prostitute's pussy is cleaner than her mouth.
While all that I have posted is not true science in that it isn't based upon a good true scientific study, it is just as valid at the information provided by the CDC and others, because there are no studies that compare BBBJ to BBFS from streetwalkers. None.
For that reason, I maintain that BBBJ is far riskier to catch a common STD than BBFS. However, prevalence of BBFS is rapidly increasing, so I believe BBFS is becoming riskier as time goes on. There is a greater risk of catching HIV with BBFS than BBBJ, this is true, but not true for the most common STD's.Only one incident for me in all my adventures and its was from a BBBJ. Also it should be noted that deep thr0 ating drives the risk way up. It was no fun but a shot in the ass got me right in a matter of days.
On that note, I had to go to the health dept to get treatment. Is there a more discreet way to get antibiotics if your dick starts dripping? Internet doctors? Seems like someone on here would have a hookup for an understanding Dr. Who's in the hobby.
Buster Hymen
02-04-16, 20:25
As you'll note from a prior post in this thread, I like to personally confirm data, statistics & claims. Would you be able to provide a link to the "scientific studies" that demonstrate Astroglide inhibits HSV & HIV?
I am aware of the antibiotic properties of Hibiclens and its use as a clean up agent in Hospitals.
Do you use the generic version of Hibiclens or Astroglide in your mix?
Fwiw, I quit using Astroglide as it dries out over time and vigorous F-ing and gets tacky. I prefer the non-silicon based lubes by WET.
On a side note, the drugs.com site has an archived page suggesting, nonoxynol-9, the main ingredient in spermicide has some efficacy for HIV inhibition in vitro. Remember in vitro is NOT in vivo!.
I found this PubMed citation on nonoxynol-9 and Chlamydia.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2832119Well, in attempt to retrieve the studies I was referring to, I came across later studies that refuted my beliefs, somewhat anyway. (and refutes the studies you cite on nonoxynol-9).
There are a number of studies that show, as you say, Astroglide (and nonoxynol-9) inhibit both HSV-2 and HIV virii, HOWEVER, the later studies I found actually show that both chemical INCREASE the risk of transmission via vaginal and rectal tissue, because they both break down the cell barrier walls of vaginal and rectal tissue via their water absorbing characteristics. However, this doesn't address the effect on men. So this is inconclusive, for us anyway. (but has big implications for chicks and gay dudes.) Additionally, there are no definitive studies regarding Chlorhexidine Gluconate as it is not intended for this use. The conclusion of one of the studies was it was best to use silicone-based lubes as they do not cause tissue damage.
One study said that saliva was the safest lube to use!
Bottom line, do not use what I have been using. My homebrew may be less safe than nothing. All I have to go on is the fact I have not been infected, yet anyway.
There is no such thing as safe sex. We all are at risk. Make your own choices and accept the consequences.
Cephlapod Love
02-05-16, 19:26
Well, in attempt to retrieve the studies I was referring to, I came across later studies that refuted my beliefs, somewhat anyway. (and refutes the studies you cite on nonoxynol-9).
There are a number of studies that show, as you say, Astroglide (and nonoxynol-9) inhibit both HSV-2 and HIV virii, HOWEVER, the later studies I found actually show that both chemical INCREASE the risk of transmission via vaginal and rectal tissue, because they both break down the cell barrier walls of vaginal and rectal tissue via their water absorbing characteristics. However, this doesn't address the effect on men. So this is inconclusive, for us anyway. (but has big implications for chicks and gay dudes.) Additionally, there are no definitive studies regarding Chlorhexidine Gluconate as it is not intended for this use. The conclusion of one of the studies was it was best to use silicone-based lubes as they do not cause tissue damage.
One study said that saliva was the safest lube to use!
Bottom line, do not use what I have been using. My homebrew may be less safe than nothing. All I have to go on is the fact I have not been infected, yet anyway.
There is no such thing as safe sex. We all are at risk. Make your own choices and accept the consequences.Some things about studies.
1) Yes, studies show that nonoxynol-9 DOES inhibit or kill HIV viruses. But it is important to note those studies were in vitro: which means they were conducted in a dish in a laboratory. (I made this distinction clear) How things behave "in the wild" or in nature or in "real life" can often be different. So one of the problems with "studies" is that the results from the lab don't always translate to the real world.
2) The gold standard of studies is the double blind placebo control style of study. That means that half of the participants would be given nonoxynol-9 or some other "stuff" and the other half of the participants would be given something innocuous that had no protective effect. THEN ALL of the participants would be exposed to HIV and later tested to see how many contracted the virus. So would you sign up for a study where you had a 50% chance of being exposed to HIV with no "stuff" that might protect you? Or would you sign up for a study where the stuff might work or might not work yet still be exposed to HIV?
So therefore with a disease like this it is hard to conduct a valid and conclusive study to prove if the stuff works.
3) There are many other factors that can make a study invalid or "junk science. " But we won't go into that here. Just know that not all studies are valid, even though they sound good. Be particularly skeptical of "epidemiological studies" or studies done off of survey data. (as most of the "eat this, don't eat that" studies are those types.).
4) But I have seen some reports that nonoxynol-9 might irritate the upper reproductive tracts of women and as such could increase HIV transmission possibility. Now not to be cynical or anything but: a) Why does one care about that? Unless you have a vagina. And b) If you know you don't have HIV, then are you posing any additional risk?
5) How does one conclude anything related to transmission through the skin of the penis from the fact that nonoxynol-9 could have deleterious effects on mucus membranes or internal layers (vaginal walls and rectum)? How do those studies make it "inconclusive?" How can we project to that result or outcome?
5) What is the worst nonoxynol-9 or your concoction can do in this case? NOTHING? What if it has some efficacy, then what? So is it better to do nothing or do something?
6) But a discussion about "studies" and what they say without references and citations is just spitting into the wind. It has little value. I can argue my study says XYZ and with out a reference you can't refute it. So let's not play that game.
as you say, Astroglide (and nonoxynol-9) inhibit both HSV-2 and HIV virii,7) Finally, hey: Please don't put words in my mouth. I said I had seen a webpage that stated that studies showed nonoxynol-9 inhibited HIV, I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ASTROGLIDE and HIV inhibition! Hopefully that was a misstatement?
Still would like to see your references to the inhibitory effects of AstroGlide.
Trust Lust
02-06-16, 07:07
I've about given up on Astroglide and never did care too much for KY Jelly. With Astroglide I get a pretty good sheath around my dick along with more feeling, but as I've mentioned, The Jane Flow episodes, I've encountered, have always made a creamy experience into one of scrolled up sand paper. What I've noticed over the years, however, is that OB gel, ordered from Cal Vet type places or the local feed store, never display these qualities upon sticking my arm down a cow's ass to dislodge a firecracker wrapper, do a preg test on a cow, or check a bull's organs. None of the associated manure ever breaks through the OB gel liner, the way it would have with Astroglide. As a matter of fact, I just tried this OB gel with one of my Jane Flow regulars and was able to squirt off to completion; disengage, and notel wet towel off the shedding intact with the OB gel sheath.
As for the disinfectant technique, I've added Betadine to OB gel, just to be safe, but have found that it fucks with the slipperiness of the gel. Call it Hibiclens, should you wish, but the SOP for cleaning wounds is Dakin's solution. Hibiclens, is an overly expensive variation, pricey drug stores sell to the general public. Take about a half cup of Clorox to a quart of water and add Roach Pruff to it until the litmus paper runs neutral; this is all Hibiclens and Dakin's Solution are. Barely taste it, and there shouldn't be any salty taste. I slosh a little bit of this in with my OB gel and fill up an empty Astroglide bottle with it instead.
I am disappointed that there is another virus to ruin our fun. The one good thing is that there is a Zika vaccine that is currently being tested.
(http://www.ndtv.com/health/worlds-first-zika-virus-vaccine-made-in-india-claim-scientists-1273149).
Cephlapod Love
02-07-16, 14:34
I am disappointed that there is another virus to ruin our fun. The one good thing is that there is a Zika vaccine that is currently being tested.
(http://www.ndtv.com/health/worlds-first-zika-virus-vaccine-made-in-india-claim-scientists-1273149).From the CDC:
Zika virus is spread to people through mosquito bites. The most common symptoms of Zika virus disease are fever, rash, joint pain, and conjunctivitis (red eyes). The illness is usually mild with symptoms lasting from several days to a week. Severe disease requiring hospitalization is uncommon.
http://www.cdc.gov/zika/
Zika in the United States and its territories:
No locally transmitted Zika cases have been reported in the continental United States, but cases have been reported in returning travelers.
http://www.cdc.gov/zika/geo/index.html
Oh and from what I read in that article, human trials have not yet begun for the Zika virus. So it is likely it will be 5 years before the trials are done. Then if they show they are effective, who knows how long the FDA will sit on the results before approving the usage in the USA? Maybe the FDA won't like the design of the Chinese or Indian trials and require new trials in the US?
From the CDC:
Zika virus is spread to people through mosquito bites. The most common symptoms of Zika virus disease are fever, rash, joint pain, and conjunctivitis (red eyes). The illness is usually mild with symptoms lasting from several days to a week. Severe disease requiring hospitalization is uncommon.
http://www.cdc.gov/zika/
Zika in the United States and its territories:
No locally transmitted Zika cases have been reported in the continental United States, but cases have been reported in returning travelers.
http://www.cdc.gov/zika/geo/index.html
Oh and from what I read in that article, human trials have not yet begun for the Zika virus. So it is likely it will be 5 years before the trials are done. Then if they show they are effective, who knows how long the FDA will sit on the results before approving the usage in the USA? Maybe the FDA won't like the design of the Chinese or Indian trials and require new trials in the US?Sorry but it is a STD. Established by transmission from male health worker to wife, who never ventured into area of infestation. Worst case scenario for pregnant women and their children. Effects for others not so devastating. Time for military grade OFF.
Cephlapod Love
02-09-16, 13:33
Sorry but it is a STD. Established by transmission from male health worker to wife, who never ventured into area of infestation. Worst case scenario for pregnant women and their children. Effects for others not so devastating. Time for military grade OFF.Hey, sorry to rain you your parade but can't figure out what all of the fuss is about?
I cited the US Center for Disease Control and their view of the virus. Interested to learn if there is medical proof that this virus was transmitted via sexual contact? Can you share that link?
From this seat it looks like this virus is relatively NON-EXISTANT in the USA. Sure if I travel to one of those areas on the map, then I would take precautions.
I'm thinking there are too many things to worry about in life than getting a virus that doesn't seem to exist much in the USA, and one that causes nothing more than cold symptoms and in most people isn't much of a medical concern. I could be wrong?
The probability of catching HIV is MUCH greater than this virus.
Trust Lust
02-25-16, 07:13
As I've mentioned on other threads of this forum, I've bedded down with SW's via telephone call up or MP for 5 x the price of picking up the same gals off the street. Not only that, but jacking off would have been better than the required rubbering up going the agency route. Likewise, I can't see paying $11.99 for an 8 oz. Bottle of Hibiclens, probably $34.99 in Californicate, when Clorox is often. 88 $ for a gallon jug here, in Texas. Maybe some class act etc, needs accomplishing, but doesn't the commodity of saving of saving $11.00 for a $40.00 SW ring a bell? The class act persona shit has already been blown with the stigma of being a monger. Surely, as well, the heavily drug addicted SW or agency peon isn't going to give a rat's ass anyway.
Back to bleach, I've had rabies infected rats to bite me; have immediately doused the bite with straight bleach, out of the bottle, and have never started foaming at the mouth a few days later. Bleach is a simple, inexpensive miracle cure right up there with penicillin. Just think of how less deadly some of our earlier wars would have been had they diluted the stuff and bandaged wounds with it.
As for STUTI's or any UTI's, for that matter, what is the point in taking antibiotics for it unless absolutely sure? These things kill off the good bugs, too, thereby rendering one more prone to later infections. I've been guilty of it, too, and have pumped myself full of feed store penicillin for strep, poison ivy, or other hives, but some of the broad spectrum stuff, nowadays, causes cardiac arrests.
What really works well for UTI's, is borax; One can buy a box of Mule Team at Walmart. Be sure to tell the security guard, at the door, that you're going to scrub your floors with it. That way the nanny state won't be alerted and knocking on your door as they with their euthanasia or hospital torture agenda. A teaspoon of this Borax per liter of boiling water, to be drunk over a few days, will kill off just about any UTI after drinking it for a couple of weeks. Copay fees, saved, can be placed in an SW fund, and no mention of your eluding the marriage institution will wind up on Prince Fedgov's database.
Cephlapod Love
02-26-16, 12:13
As for STUTI's or any UTI's, for that matter, what is the point in taking antibiotics for it unless absolutely sure? These things kill off the good bugs, too, thereby rendering one more prone to later infections. I've been guilty of it, too, and have pumped myself full of feed store penicillin for strep, poison ivy, or other hives, but some of the broad spectrum stuff, nowadays, causes cardiac arrests.
Eh, killing off the bacteria is a bit of a misnomer. Perhaps some of the useful bacteria in the GI track get killed, but not all. If one is worried about that a week's dose of probiotics ought to do the trick. I like the ones that are micro-encapsulated to prevent being killed by the acids in the stomach (Jarrow Formulas Jarro-Dophilus EPS).
http://www.jarrow.com/product/605/Jarro-Dophilus_EPS
Efficacy reported here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21637030
Trust Lust
02-28-16, 20:58
As I've mentioned on other threads of this forum, I've bedded down with SW's via telephone call up or MP for 5 x the price of picking up the same gals off the street. Not only that, but jacking off would have been better than the required rubbering up going the agency route. Likewise, I can't see paying $11.99 for an 8 oz. Bottle of Hibiclens, probably $34.99 in Californicate, when Clorox is often. 88 $ for a gallon jug here, in Texas. Maybe some class act etc, needs accomplishing, but doesn't the commodity of saving of saving $11.00 for a $40.00 SW ring a bell? The class act persona shit has already been blown with the stigma of being a monger. Surely, as well, the heavily drug addicted SW or agency peon isn't going to give a rat's ass anyway.
Back to bleach, I've had rabies infected rats to bite me; have immediately doused the bite with straight bleach, out of the bottle, and have never started foaming at the mouth a few days later. Bleach is a simple, inexpensive miracle cure right up there with penicillin. Just think of how less deadly some of our earlier wars would have been had they diluted the stuff and bandaged wounds with it.
As for STUTI's or any UTI's, for that matter, what is the point in taking antibiotics for it unless absolutely sure? These things kill off the good bugs, too, thereby rendering one more prone to later infections. I've been guilty of it, too, and have pumped myself full of feed store penicillin for strep, poison ivy, or other hives, but some of the broad spectrum stuff, nowadays, causes cardiac arrests.
What really works well for UTI's, is borax; One can buy a box of Mule Team at Walmart. Be sure to tell the security guard, at the door, that you're going to scrub your floors with it. That way the nanny state won't be alerted and knocking on your door as they with their euthanasia or hospital torture agenda. A teaspoon of this Borax per liter of boiling water, to be drunk over a few days, will kill off just about any UTI after drinking it for a couple of weeks. Copay fees, saved, can be placed in an SW fund, and no mention of your eluding the marriage institution will wind up on Prince Fedgov's database.I was remiss in not mentioning, that I've found that borax works exceptionally well for yeast infections, or that male jock itch, that the latest and greatest Micatin or Vagisil won't touch. One of my regulars has been putting out that odor that originates from the smegma of one of her other john's uncircumcision. When I was to mention this matter to her, she went on to explain that she has tried everything to no avail. I went on to tell her that borax always has worked for the kind of yeast infections milk cow's encounter. I see her a couple of more times, and the stench hasn't subsided. When I ask about the Mule Team, she claims to have tried it. Next, I find out she hasn't she hasn't been adding the cup of borax to the required large saucepan of boiling water before pouring it into her bathtub. Sho nuff, I see her couple of times later, no stink, other than the tuna fish, that makes me horny. She admits to the success of overcoming her yeast infection with borax soaking. Next, she wants to know whether I have any antibiotics that would cure all her many staph infected needle sites. When I tell her to go to the feed store for this, that, and the other, for her dog, of course, she exclaims, "Oh, that's what my mother used to do!" Instead, she's planning on going into the indigent ward of the hospital for some inept resident to give her antibiotics that could very well cause her kidney failure.
Want to know how so? Go to your Google bar and type in, " kidney failure from antibiotic abuse"; click the arrow to the right of the box, and spend years reading all that has been written on this matter.
Member #5275
04-04-16, 11:09
The,"unwrapped option" does not appeal to me and I avoid meeting with providers that offer that.
So I thought I was booking a QV with Jamie http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-fantasy-dream-come-true-sweet-and-sexy-petite-and-discrete-22-727-336-5374-22-yo/19353324 but when I got there, I swear it was Amber. http://www.bitchesofbackpage.com/954-951-3165/ I even asked her if she's Amber and she genuinely seemed clueless. Which ever chick she was, she was friendly and well spoken. She's at the extended stay off of Ulmerton. Her rates are as posted in the Jamie ad. I opted for the. 6 QV but to get BBBJ, she asked for another. 2. Then of course those that want to partake in BBFS, it's another. 2. I stuck with the BBBJDT with CFS for a total of. 8. When the hat went on, she climbed up for CG and man is she snug. Oh and she's natural and very clean to include her arms; no tracks. After about five minutes of CG, I took her pronounced pink pussy DS to finish in the hat. She said she'll be around probably another two weeks. She's down for pretty much anything, and the price only seems to go up. 2 for each fetish. As always, stay safe and happy humping.
The,"unwrapped option" does not appeal to me and I avoid meeting with providers that offer that.If you see ANY provider that offers BBBJ then you are just as 'at risk' of contracting an STD as I was while enjoying her BBBJ. I understand your trepidation for providers that outright advertise bare, many mongers feel the same. Just know that a condom only minimizes the risk of an STD with any provider. Says it right on the box. Another tidbit of knowledge. If I'm taking a provider and my bare skin, to include my balls, comes in contact with an open infection of lets say, herpes or HPV, then I now have said infection; for life. Just some nasty food for thought when we feel protected behind our prophylactic protection. It's a risky game we play fellas. As always, stay safe and happy humping.
Now on to some inquiries. This one, http://www.************.com/houston/classifieds/ad/56be6a6e69d789ayK7rBZeMrzraMQrsfqXm8y65sOPSjzm5w4-/ whom rarely advertises a name but always has the same number, looks smokin' hot. http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/t-e-r-id-296997-if-its-not-me-its-free-hawaiian-german-and-black-h-and/19659069. (864) 202-0897 Lilly. https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=296997 I only hope she's still around this Thursday! Hotcha-Rotcha. Any VIPers from the oThER site with some insight pertaining to the details with this little vixen would be most appreciated.
Cephlapod Love
04-09-16, 10:21
The,"unwrapped option" does not appeal to me and I avoid meeting with providers that offer that.Hey not banging on you, as I see this kind of statement often, but-.
About half the guys out there, according to women, ask for and play BBFS. So it is safe to assume that just about ALL girls provide BBFS at some point or another.
Most are aware of the negative stigma associated with advertising BBFS, so they don't advertise it and might even state it isn't available.
The only way one can know for certain is to ASK! That is one of my standard questions. I always ask about bbfs, so I can screen the field..
It is pretty amazing. If you ask outright, most of the time you get a knee-jerk reaction of "no. ' Ask a second time and then the true colors come out. You will either get an agreement, a counter offer for additional bills or a refusal. You'd be surprised how many fall into the first two categories! Yousa!
So don't fall into false thinking or comfort zone of no advertised BBFS means she doesn't do it.
Fears strain of 'super gonorrhoea' could spread across UK. And may become untreatable.
The infection is transmitted by unprotected vaginal, oral and anal sex.
Link http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gonorrhoea-super-strain-symptoms-what-is-it-spear-treatment-a6987816.html.
Just because this seems to be confined to the UK is no reason to be foolish.
You bros might want to think about keeping it covered just in case your provider got in bed with a Londoner on vacation here. It happens.
BBBJ just might become a thing of the past if this untreatable strain makes it over the pond to the USA.
Cephlapod Love
04-18-16, 10:52
Fears strain of 'super gonorrhoea' could spread across UK. And may become untreatable.
The infection is transmitted by unprotected vaginal, oral and anal sex.
Link http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gonorrhoea-super-strain-symptoms-what-is-it-spear-treatment-a6987816.html.
Just because this seems to be confined to the UK is no reason to be foolish.
You bros might want to think about keeping it covered just in case your provider got in bed with a Londoner on vacation here. It happens.
BBBJ just might become a thing of the past if this untreatable strain makes it over the pond to the USA.That is interesting as I dated (FWB situation) a girl whose area of graduate research was said strain of bug. Interestingly, since it was a fwb situation we played BBFS!
But let me play devil's advocate with you for a minute? What percentage of the UK population is infected with this uneatable strain? 0. 1%, 0. 01%, 0. 001%? I note the article didn't say, as it is easier to scare people if they assume it is wide spread.
So what is the chance of a random girl hooking up with one of these people and contracting the disease? THEN what is the chance that this girl comes to your area of the world and agrees to BBFS with you? Just because something is possible (not 100% certain not to happen) doesn't mean it is likely.
Look rates of people living with the HIV bug in the USA are usually less than 2%. Switch that to women and generally it is well under 1%. But the hysteria the government created (fear is a powerful motivator), in order to change behaviors, is so great you would think that every other person running around is infected. I guess it is helped along by narrow-minded right-winged zealots that want to impose their views on the masses?
Everyone has a right to evaluate and manage risk as they see fit. In this country, it appears as though we work less on a rational, fact based assessment of risk and more on an fear basis that has no reality in the facts?
Good luck & stay safe!
It finally happened. I thought I was doing well; my activity in this hobby was going down, and then I saw an "old friend" and got a BBBJ. Couple weeks later, had a painful piss and you know the rest. Haven't gotten my test results yet but went to the Health Dept and they gave me a precautionary dose of zithromax. Since I'm about two days into that antibiotic and the symptoms aren't retreating, I'm wondering if I also need a shot of ceftriaxone and, if so, where to get it immediately. I'm so scared, and I'm considering suicide options seriously at this point. I'm married and I can't stand the thought of compromising her safety, nor having to admit to her what I've done. My life will be done. Sorry to be the downer with this. But guys, if you are still healthy, please wrap your shit up. I always thought that a BBBJ was the safer option if there was a choice. I was wrong, I guess there really isn't a safe option uncovered (besides maybe a handjob). If I ever see the other side of this and come back into this hobby in any form, I promise to ALWAYS stay covered. A nut bust is not worth this. It's not worth ruining other peoples' lives and even wanting to take your own.
Horsetrader
04-23-16, 08:59
Like Nike says, just do it.
I suggest you pick one of those walk in clinics such as Patients First. Or go back to your health department facility. Tell them whole story and let the doctor decide how to handle things. Tell them you don't have a regular doctor, otherwise they will forward records that you want buried. When the bill and test results arrive in mail, you need to get to mailbox first.
There is a free STD clinic on Caroline street, that is a free option where you can give them fake information and never see any mail. Years ago I put a reference in reports of destination. I don't know if it is still valid.
How did you get Zithromax? That is only part of the treatment. That bacteria is quickly evolving and resistant to antibiotics that were effective just a few years ago. Drug companies no longer are spending big money on antibiotic research because it doesn't pay off like meds that people take for the rest of their lives. Don't be surprised if soon their is no treatment for the clap. Get it while you can.
Good luck with it. Get your treatment now and worry about consequences later.
Keemosobie
04-23-16, 10:11
It finally happened. I thought I was doing well; my activity in this hobby was going down, and then I saw an "old friend" and got a BBBJ. Couple weeks later, had a painful piss and you know the rest. Haven't gotten my test results yet but went to the Health Dept and they gave me a precautionary dose of zithromax. Since I'm about two days into that antibiotic and the symptoms aren't retreating, I'm wondering if I also need a shot of ceftriaxone and, if so, where to get it immediately. I'm so scared, and I'm considering suicide options seriously at this point. I'm married and I can't stand the thought of compromising her safety, nor having to admit to her what I've done. My life will be done. .Hang tough, stay calm, This is not the end of the world, and you will get through this ok. Below is information on the Caroline St clinic, but since it isn't open again until Monday, Horsetrader's advice on Patient First clinic sounds good to me. They can give you advice on how long to safely abstain, and your wife can surely understand if you are just feeling a little too sickly for sex for a while.
Eastern STD Clinic.
620 North Caroline St. , Baltimore, MD 21205.
Tel. 410.396. 9410.
Hours of Operation.
Monday & Tuesday: 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM.
Wednesday: & Friday: Closed.
Thursday: 8:30 AM - 1:00 PM.
No appointment necessary, but patients are encouraged to arrive at the clinic at 8:30 am.
Horsetrader
04-23-16, 12:23
No appointment necessary, but patients are encouraged to arrive at the clinic at 8:30 am.I haven't been there in years, but it used to be that patients were lined up before they opened. Late arrivals may not be seen.
I don't remember ever showing ID. But, have your fake name, address, zip, and SSN memorized because it might get asked multiple times.
Like Nike says, just do it.
I suggest you pick one of those walk in clinics such as Patients First. Or go back to your health department facility. Tell them whole story and let the doctor decide how to handle things. Tell them you don't have a regular doctor, otherwise they will forward records that you want buried. When the bill and test results arrive in mail, you need to get to mailbox first.
There is a free STD clinic on Caroline street, that is a free option where you can give them fake information and never see any mail. Years ago I put a reference in reports of destination. I don't know if it is still valid.
How did you get Zithromax? That is only part of the treatment. That bacteria is quickly evolving and resistant to antibiotics that were effective just a few years ago. Drug companies no longer are spending big money on antibiotic research because it doesn't pay off like meds that people take for the rest of their lives. Don't be surprised if soon their is no treatment for the clap. Get it while you can.
Good luck with it. Get your treatment now and worry about consequences later.I got the Zithro from the Baltimore County Health Department. I didn't know about the zithro / ceftriaxone combo for gonorrhea but I guess they can't administer both until they know what you have? Anyway, since my results are two weeks out, I decided to visit a urologist yesterday who could provide results faster. My initial thoughts are that its clap. I'm holding out the slim possibility that it could be something else, even something non-STD related, but I know that's just me trying to keep myself calm. So, I think right now I'm going to have to wait until Monday when my results are expected from the urologist. I'm still freaked out, but the silver lining is that maybe this is the situation that will get me out of the hobby that's had such a grip on me for the past eight years. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst. In the meantime, I happened to have some garlic extract so I started popping those on my own. Yeah, that's probably a bullshit "cure" but whatever works for my sanity right now. I'm in and out of deep depression over this.
Keemosobie
04-23-16, 13:00
I haven't been there in years, but it used to be that patients were lined up before they opened. .Agreed, years for me as well. The closer to the front of that line that you can get before they open the better, as they take you in the order you sign in. Sitting for hours in those plastic chairs in a crowded waiting room is nobody's idea of a pleasant way to spend your time.
It finally happened. I thought I was doing well; my activity in this hobby was going down, and then I saw an "old friend" and got a BBBJ. Couple weeks later, had a painful piss and you know the rest. Haven't gotten my test results yet but went to the Health Dept and they gave me a precautionary dose of zithromax. Since I'm about two days into that antibiotic and the symptoms aren't retreating, I'm wondering if I also need a shot of ceftriaxone and, if so, where to get it immediately. I'm so scared, and I'm considering suicide options seriously at this point. I'm married and I can't stand the thought of compromising her safety, nor having to admit to her what I've done. My life will be done. Sorry to be the downer with this. But guys, if you are still healthy, please wrap your shit up. I always thought that a BBBJ was the safer option if there was a choice. I was wrong, I guess there really isn't a safe option uncovered (besides maybe a handjob). If I ever see the other side of this and come back into this hobby in any form, I promise to ALWAYS stay covered. A nut bust is not worth this. It's not worth ruining other peoples' lives and even wanting to take your own.Like others have suggested the Caroline St clinic is the best. You can often get appointment same day you enter, and get your results next day. Or preliminary results same day. Sounds like gono to me. There are some nasty strains out there. But the antibiotic resistance ones not prevalent here (yet). Calm down. The women at clinic are awesome.
Cephlapod Love
04-24-16, 10:22
I got the Zithro from the Baltimore County Health Department. I didn't know about the zithro / ceftriaxone combo for gonorrhea but I guess they can't administer both until they know what you have? Anyway, since my results are two weeks out, I decided to visit a urologist yesterday who could provide results faster. My initial thoughts are that its clap. I'm holding out the slim possibility that it could be something else, even something non-STD related, but I know that's just me trying to keep myself calm. So, I think right now I'm going to have to wait until Monday when my results are expected from the urologist. I'm still freaked out, but the silver lining is that maybe this is the situation that will get me out of the hobby that's had such a grip on me for the past eight years. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst. In the meantime, I happened to have some garlic extract so I started popping those on my own. Yeah, that's probably a bullshit "cure" but whatever works for my sanity right now. I'm in and out of deep depression over this.First and foremost. Get medical attention and a "final" cure! (Yeah, the garlic tablets are a BS cure) Don't stop with the "stop gap" Zithro just because you feel better. Do that and you may have only suppressed the bugs and what comes back, might be resistant to treatment and you'll be worse the wear. AND on top of that, you could give it to The SO and catch it back.
When I was a young pup, I worked in a shop where some hotshot 18-yo went down the street and did several rounds with the available ladies. One day we are standing around before assignments and he goes into the head and we can hear him pizzing razor blades! When he came out everyone had a smirk on their face and he said, "What?" The boss told him to head down to the Health Department Clinic that AM and get it treated. He did. Fast forward a month later and the same thing happens. He's pizzing razor blades! He comes out and the the boss yells at him, "Didn't you take the wife to get treated too?" Yeah, he got cured but forgot to get his wife treated, so he caught it again from his wife! Genius! Anyway, don't fall into this hole and hope you didn't BBFS with SO anytime between seeing that lady that infected you and the appearance of symptoms? It can take up to 2-weeks before symptoms become apparent!
But jeez dude!! I can't believe the reaction to getting an STD? Seriously? I mean just because you got it doesn't mean you are a bad person or "dirty" or anything like that! If you can compartmentalize enough to play on the side when you have an SO, then why not this? Sounds like you are letting some old school socialization seep in and ruin you? Let it go. It is the risk of the game, it isn't fatal, and you earned a stripe. Chill.
Also, I'd suggest you look at how this happened. Usually skin is a pretty good protective barrier as designed to keep pathogens out! Usually, that protects you from getting anything. But if there are cuts, sores, raw spots or anything else that degrades the protectiveness of the skin then there can be a pathway for transmission. Then again if she was sticking her touge into your urethra then that might be and additional risk factor? Finally when you were done, did you urinate and wash up the equipment? Cleaning and flushing "can" help in disease prevention: it isn't a primary preventative technique however. So see if anything could be changed in your procedure?
Finally, you didn't mention if you let the provider know and if she was getting treatment or is still out there infecting others?
Buster Hymen
04-24-16, 15:10
Hey not banging on you, as I see this kind of statement often, but-.
About half the guys out there, according to women, ask for and play BBFS. So it is safe to assume that just about ALL girls provide BBFS at some point or another.
Most are aware of the negative stigma associated with advertising BBFS, so they don't advertise it and might even state it isn't available.
The only way one can know for certain is to ASK! That is one of my standard questions. I always ask about bbfs, so I can screen the field..
It is pretty amazing. If you ask outright, most of the time you get a knee-jerk reaction of "no. ' Ask a second time and then the true colors come out. You will either get an agreement, a counter offer for additional bills or a refusal. You'd be surprised how many fall into the first two categories! Yousa!
So don't fall into false thinking or comfort zone of no advertised BBFS means she doesn't do it.When I first started reading your post, I thought you were going the right direction, then you totally went off the rails.
There is a common misconception that BBFS is dangerous with respect to STD's, and BBBJ is relatively safe. Nothing could be further from the truth. This misconception is out there because of statements by the CDC and others that, relatively speaking, BJ's are safer than FS. However, when you look at how they draw their conclusions, it is totally BS.
There are no scientific, believable studies on this topic. First major problem is that people don't tell the truth on such sensitive topics. Second problem is that when you combine this issue with the lack of studies on this controlled population (sex workers), then you have nothing but bogus information out their.
I have done my own research, polled a large number of SW's I picked up on the ratio of BJ's vs FS, and then BBBJ vs CBJ, then BBFS. The ratio of BJ to FS varies quite a bit, but generally is at least 5 to 1. Almost 100% of girls I asked said they would do BBBJ. Over the last 6 months, at least 75% of girls I have been with said they would do BBFS, when the 25% were told I would drop them off, the number increased to at least 90%.
So your "screening method" is useless. Virtually all SW's will do BBFS is the condition is right. (The number of BBFSCIP drops off considerably, especially in that 25% category).
Think about this. There are at least 5 to 1 more BBBJ's going on out there than FS, so there is more opportunity to share. Plus, the ratio of guys that wrap for FS is much greater than the ones going BBFS, so the true ratio of uncovered BJ to uncovered FS is probably at least 10 to 1.
My conclusions:
1. BBFS is safer, with regards to catching a common STD, than BBBJ.
2. I cannot comment on transmission of HIV. There isn't enough data, but it is generally a known fact that F to M transmission with no other complications (like the M having an open sore or wound) is pretty rare.
Let me be clear, I am not advocating BBFS over BBBJ, or that BBFS is safe by any means. I am just trying to dispel the notion that BBBJ is "relatively safe", whereas BBFS is not. And that you can screen out higher risk girls (like the essence of your post).
Look at the stats on this forum. There are plenty of stories on here about guys catching the clap from BBBJ. There are fewer stories about catching it from BBFS.
I have done hundreds of girls BBFS and not caught anything. I almost always use lube treated with Chlorhexidine Gluconate. I get tested every 6 months for common STD's, and once a year get the full panel (Hep be and see, HSV 1&2, HIV, and the rest of the common STD's) I just had my yearly test, all negative.
I always piss right after the act, then wash up as soon as possible after the act.
Member #5136
04-25-16, 15:00
When I first started reading your post, I thought you were going the right direction, then you totally went off the rails.
There is a common misconception that BBFS is dangerous with respect to STD's, and BBBJ is relatively safe. Nothing could be further from the truth. This misconception is out there because of statements by the CDC and others that, relatively speaking, BJ's are safer than FS. However, when you look at how they draw their conclusions, it is totally BS.
There are no scientific, believable studies on this topic. First major problem is that people don't tell the truth on such sensitive topics. Second problem is that when you combine this issue with the lack of studies on this controlled population (sex workers), then you have nothing but bogus information out their.
I have done my own research, polled a large number of SW's I picked up on the ratio of BJ's vs FS, and then BBBJ vs CBJ, then BBFS. The ratio of BJ to FS varies quite a bit, but generally is at least 5 to 1. Almost 100% of girls I asked said they would do BBBJ. Over the last 6 months, at least 75% of girls I have been with said they would do BBFS, when the 25% were told I would drop them off, the number increased to at least 90%.
So your "screening method" is useless. Virtually all SW's will do BBFS is the condition is right. (The number of BBFSCIP drops off considerably, especially in that 25% category).
Think about this. There are at least 5 to 1 more BBBJ's going on out there than FS, so there is more opportunity to share. Plus, the ratio of guys that wrap for FS is much greater than the ones going BBFS, so the true ratio of uncovered BJ to uncovered FS is probably at least 10 to 1.
My conclusions:
1. BBFS is safer, with regards to catching a common STD, than BBBJ.
2. I cannot comment on transmission of HIV. There isn't enough data, but it is generally a known fact that F to M transmission with no other complications (like the M having an open sore or wound) is pretty rare.
Let me be clear, I am not advocating BBFS over BBBJ, or that BBFS is safe by any means. I am just trying to dispel the notion that BBBJ is "relatively safe", whereas BBFS is not. And that you can screen out higher risk girls (like the essence of your post).
Look at the stats on this forum. There are plenty of stories on here about guys catching the clap from BBBJ. There are fewer stories about catching it from BBFS.
I have done hundreds of girls BBFS and not caught anything. I almost always use lube treated with Chlorhexidine Gluconate. I get tested every 6 months for common STD's, and once a year get the full panel (Hep be and see, HSV 1&2, HIV, and the rest of the common STD's) I just had my yearly test, all negative.
I always piss right after the act, then wash up as soon as possible after the act.Buuuutttt. The mouth is a far more hostile place for viruses / bacteria than the pussy!
I don't disagree. BBBJ is not "safe". But going bare back is not smart. Not too mention you could knock one of these chicks up (unless you're like me and have been snipped).
Cephlapod Love
04-25-16, 15:54
Buuuutttt. The mouth is a far more hostile place for viruses / bacteria than the pussy!
I don't disagree. BBBJ is not "safe". But going bare back is not smart. Not too mention you could knock one of these chicks up (unless you're like me and have been snipped).So I'd like to see a discussion on this topic here. Care to explain your statement that "going bare back is not smart?" Why do you think that?
If anyone is playing BBFS with a girl under ANY circumstances, whether it be a girl friend, a "hook up date" or a "poetry reading" date and doesn't know and trust that the girl is on birth control, well that dude is playing with fire! Being responsible with your DNA is male-female relations 101.
In most states, the law sides with the "best interest" of the child. Therefore there is no "out" for the guy, even if she lies to you and says she is on birth control when she isn't or even if she has you "sign a contract" that you can donate your DNA and not be responsible. The laws are designed for what is best for the child (getting money out of you!) and you are scr*wed! So always know the fate of your guys!
Jay Play42
05-02-16, 16:12
Lately its been taking me a long time to nut with condoms.
I used to use Magnum Thins but have found the Trojan Ecstasy feel good.
I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.
Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?
I once met a provider who came with flavored condoms.
She gave me an incredible CBJ, it almost felt like she was using nothing at all on the CBJ and during FS I had to check to see if it was on it felt so natural.
Don't know what she used and Haven't been able to find another condom to feel the same.
Cephlapod Love
05-03-16, 10:42
Lately its been taking me a long time to nut with condoms.
I used to use Magnum Thins but have found the Trojan Ecstasy feel good.
I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.
Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?
I once met a provider who came with flavored condoms.
She gave me an incredible CBJ, it almost felt like she was using nothing at all on the CBJ and during FS I had to check to see if it was on it felt so natural.
Don't know what she used and Haven't been able to find another condom to feel the same.
Eh, fit and comfort are an individual thing. What works for me might not work for another. But there is a whole world of great condoms available out there that generally ARE NOT in the drug stores!
So check out the review section of this website:
http://www.condomdepot.com/
All kinds of information on condoms and other safe sex devices & measures. Fitting guides, educational material, lubes, toys, etc. All can be sent to you discretely in a brown paper wrapper.
I think you will find that the Crown "skinless skin" and the Kimono MicroThin condoms are some of the thinnest ones manufactured. It looks like the Japanese have some of the thinnest condoms.
Also think that the PVC condoms might be better at transmitting heat than latex. Of course the best at that are lambskin condoms, but because they are a membrane they have a higher permeability and thus are theoretically capable of transmitting disease. (but if you have no openings, sores, rashes on the skin of your tool then transmission probability is low).
I found out about the Japanese condoms after an AMP visit. Requested an experienced girl and got an older attendant. This girl pulled the "slip the hat on during BBBJ" trick and then quickly went to CG FS, I never felt any thing and once she was on me I thought she was doing BBFS so I stopped her to check. Sure enough there was a pink hat that looked like my skin on there. Continued the session as it felt like BB. When it was done I asked to see the wrapper the hat was in.
Now that said, gave a few of those to a buddy who was in a pinch and he reported he felt no difference between the brands found in the drug stores. So YMMV.
Take a look at the customer and STAFF ratings of hats on that site. They do have variety packs so you can text out different ones. Oh and full stats are there too: as in length, width and thickness of each condom.
Good luck!
DarkSideOfMe
05-03-16, 13:21
Was in Charlotte, NC. For a long fuck weekend, hit several AMPs. All three did the same thing to me. Put that cover on like it wasn't there! Great feeling, stopped her once to see if she put one on. I am a covered monger, so I wanted to be sure BJ was covered also. The only thing, that I thought about, was, she came back to the room with it in her mouth so I didn't see it, was it used? Have been to AMPs that are using them over, always take my own. Like I said I 'm covered always,!If you play with, without, that is your choice, you need to be able to deal, what cums your way, and live with it, I am not going to risk "all in" for a piece of AMP ass, or put my dick in" your old CUM"in a wet pussy, no matter what the polls say,(safe, not safe) about "numbers". Do what you want, when I walk away I know I'm clean! Drk.
John Dough
05-19-16, 13:42
I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.
Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?The thin Japanese condoms are often recommended for better sensation. However, they are too snug for some American men.
I have recently heard the opinion that condoms that are too tight cause you to lose sensation. Supposedly the solution is to buy large size condoms, which are usually wider as well as longer. European condoms are available in wider sizes than allowed by the FDA. They can be ordered online and delivered by mail. The greatest number of sizes are offered by TheyFit. Their website is:
http://www.theyfit.co.uk/
To get them shipped to the USA you have to use a forwarding service called A Few Bucks Fwd.
http://afewbucksfwd.weebly.com/afbf-amp-condoms.html
TheyFit has announced it has been acquired by ONE Condoms, and will be launching in the United States this Fall as myONE. However, they likely won't offer the full range of sizes in the USA since wide condoms are banned by the FDA.
Another option is a company called MySize. They offer less size options, but are available on Amazon.
http://www.mysize-condoms.com/
http://www.amazon.com/10-pack-My-Size-Condoms-Inches/dp/B00M4N69G0
Here is a chart to compare the sizes of different condoms:
http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-size-chart/condom-size-chart
There is a different condom available in the US that gets great reviews regarding sensation from some people and poor reviews from others. I believe the good reviews are from men who the condom fits and the poor reviews from those it doesn't fit, since it is only available in one size. It might be worth trying to see if you're one of the lucky ones. It is called the Unique Pull. It is made from a polyethylene resin and is thinner than the Japanese thin condoms. The material is sort of like a plastic bag. It doesn't stretch, so size is very important. The material tends to be a bit crinkly if it is too wide to fit you.
http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-brands/unique-pull-condoms-reviewed-thin-condoms-pull-strips-credit-card-package
It is available here:
https://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-non-latex-condoms-reviews
The thin Japanese condoms are often recommended for better sensation. However, they are too snug for some American men.
I have recently heard the opinion that condoms that are too tight cause you to lose sensation. Supposedly the solution is to buy large size condoms, which are usually wider as well as longer. European condoms are available in wider sizes than allowed by the FDA. They can be ordered online and delivered by mail. The greatest number of sizes are offered by TheyFit. Their website is:
http://www.theyfit.co.uk/
To get them shipped to the USA you have to use a forwarding service called A Few Bucks Fwd.
http://afewbucksfwd.weebly.com/afbf-amp-condoms.html
TheyFit has announced it has been acquired by ONE Condoms, and will be launching in the United States this Fall as myONE. However, they likely won't offer the full range of sizes in the USA since wide condoms are banned by the FDA.
Another option is a company called MySize. They offer less size options, but are available on Amazon.
http://www.mysize-condoms.com/
http://www.amazon.com/10-pack-My-Size-Condoms-Inches/dp/B00M4N69G0
Here is a chart to compare the sizes of different condoms:
http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-size-chart/condom-size-chart
There is a different condom available in the US that gets great reviews regarding sensation from some people and poor reviews from others. I believe the good reviews are from men who the condom fits and the poor reviews from those it doesn't fit, since it is only available in one size. It might be worth trying to see if you're one of the lucky ones. It is called the Unique Pull. It is made from a polyethylene resin and is thinner than the Japanese thin condoms. The material is sort of like a plastic bag. It doesn't stretch, so size is very important. The material tends to be a bit crinkly if it is too wide to fit you.
http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-brands/unique-pull-condoms-reviewed-thin-condoms-pull-strips-credit-card-package
It is available here:
https://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-non-latex-condoms-reviewsI use Magnums but before I put on any condom I use some lube on my dick which I find helps the feeling a lot.
John Dough
05-19-16, 15:29
I use Magnums but before I put on any condom I use some lube on my dick which I find helps the feeling a lot.There are condoms with a baggy pouch at the head that are supposed to improve sensation. For example, Trojan Magnum Ecstasy has a baggy head.
http://www.condomdepot.com/trojan-magnum-etasy/
See the picture under Condom Shape at the link.
Even the regular Trojan Magnum is wider at the head than at the base.
http://www.condomdepot.com/trojan-magnum-condoms/
The Trojan Double Ecstasy combines a baggy head with internal lubrication. "Different lubricants on the inside and outside of the condom help maximize pleasure for each partner ".
http://www.condomdepot.com/trojan-double-etasy/
John Dough
05-20-16, 13:42
TheyFit has announced it has been acquired by ONE Condoms, and will be launching in the United States this Fall as myONE. However, they likely won't offer the full range of sizes in the USA since wide condoms are banned by the FDA.It seems my previous statement was only partially correct. Apparently ONE condoms have convinced the FDA to expand the allowable size range, though it will still be smaller than allowed in Europe. There will be 56 size combinations of length and width, versus 95 currently offered by TheyFit.
http://www.onecondoms.com/pages/myone
ONE is excited to introduce 56 perfect-fit condom sizes to the United States. These include sizes larger and smaller than anything currently available on the U.S. market, marking a historic shift in the range of condoms that are cleared by the FDA for sale. In 2015 the FDA granted clearance for an increased range of sizes. Most condoms properly fit only 12% of men.http://www.onecondoms.com/blogs/press-releases/117188421-measure-for-perfect-fit-one-condoms-to-provide-56-condom-sizes
Prior to myONE, the minimum allowed condom length set by ASTM was 6.69 incheswith the introduction of myONE, condoms will be available starting at 4.92 inches. The allowed condom width set by ASTM prior to myONE was 1.85 to 2.24 inches. MyONE widths will range from 1.77 to 2.52 inches. In contrast, studies show that penis size varies greatly, with lengths ranging from about 1.57 to 10.24 inches and widths ranging from about 0.5 to 3.16 inches. Based on the data, myONE will offer sizes properly fitting 80 percent of condom purchasers. Another 10 percent will find a substantially improved fit over regular condoms.
http://fusion.net/story/300808/male-penis-size-custom-condom/
ONE is now the only condom company that has been approved to sell this expanded range of condom sizes in the U.S. The condoms will be available for purchase starting this fall.
Cephlapod Love
05-20-16, 14:27
I use Magnums but before I put on any condom I use some lube on my dick which I find helps the feeling a lot.Exactly! That is a trick that real pro girls know to do. A bit of lube on the inside helps the heat transfer and improves the sensation.
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A2
She goes bareback but you had your tongue all up in her. LOL I got 2 rules. Never bareback. Never DATY. You guys are crazy LOL. I have seen her and you are right super sweet but not my type.Many men and women find oral sex an intensely pleasurable experience. People use different terms to refer to oral sex (including formal terms like fellatio and cunnilingus and slang terms like blow jobs and giving head). Usually oral sex means one person kissing, licking or sucking another person's genitals.
Oral sex and HIV.
Doctors and researchers can't be sure how many people have been infected with HIV through oral sex. Some think hardly anybody has been infected with HIV from oral sex, but other people think that as many as 3% of infections are due to oral sex. In late 2008, researchers looked at all the available evidence and calculated that the risk of contracting HIV from oral sex was very low, but that it wasn't zero.
It is known that oral sex involves less risk than unprotected anal sex or unprotected vaginal sex.
The likelihood that HIV is transmitted from a person with HIV to an HIV-negative person depends on the type of contact involved. HIV is most easily transmitted by unprotected anal sex (that is, without condoms), unprotected vaginal sex, sharing injecting equipment, and from mother to baby. It also depends on the viral load of the person with HIV.
Oral sex has been shown to be a less risky activity, but it is not risk free. Again, it depends on the viral load of the person with HIV and the dental health of the person performing oral sex. It's also worth remembering that other sexually transmitted infections, such as syphilis, herpes and gonorrhoea, can be quite easily transmitted through oral sex. If you don't use condoms, or dental dams, for oral sex, it's a good idea to have regular sexual health check-ups.
The risk of HIV being passed on during oral sex centres on fluid containing HIV (semen, vaginal fluid or blood) finding a way into the bloodstream of an HIV-negative person (via the mouth or throat, which is more likely if there is inflammation, or cuts or sores present). HIV is not passed on through exposure to saliva alone, so a person with HIV performing oral sex on someone who is HIV negative is considered to be very low risk.
The type of oral sex makes a difference to the level of risk.
HIV transmission through 'receptive fellatio', which means an HIV-negative person performing oral sex on (giving a blow job to) a man with HIV is possible and it is likely that HIV transmission happens in this way sometimes.
HIV transmission through 'insertive fellatio', which means an HIV-negative man receiving oral sex from a person with HIV, is very low risk and may be impossible.
There have been very few reports of possible HIV transmission through cunnilingus (oral sex performed on a woman). It is biologically possible that HIV could be passed on through an HIV-negative person performing oral sex on a woman with HIV, but this is considered to be low risk.
There have been no documented cases of someone being infected with HIV through receiving cunnilingus from a woman with HIV.
When is oral sex more risky?
If you have HIV, there is a higher risk of passing on HIV through someone performing oral sex on you, if you also have an untreated sexually transmitted infection. If you don't have HIV and you are performing oral sex on someone who does have HIV, you are at more risk of being infected if you have cuts, sores or abrasions in your mouth or on your gums. There is also more risk if you have an infection, including sexually transmitted ones, in your throat or mouth which is causing inflammation.
For men, having a high viral load in the blood may also mean that viral load is high in the semen. Although there is good evidence that men who have an undetectable viral load in their blood usually have an undetectable viral load in their semen, this isn't always the case. Factors like untreated sexually transmitted infections can cause viral load in semen to increase. Therefore, most doctors believe you cannot assume that having an undetectable viral load means you're uninfectious. However, the risk of HIV transmission during oral sex if a person has an undetectable viral load is extremely low.
For women, the levels of HIV in vaginal fluid vary. They are likely to be highest around the time of menstruation (having your period), when HIV-bearing cells shed from the cervix are most likely to be found in vaginal fluid, along with blood. Oral sex will therefore be more risky around the time of menstruation.
How can you reduce the risks?
There are several ways to reduce the risks of oral sex. Naturally, some will be more acceptable than others to different individuals, so you must make your own decisions about the level of risk you find acceptable. If you would like to discuss these issues, ask to see a health adviser, or other health professional, at your treatment centre or sexual health clinic. Many of the strategies below will also provide protection against other sexually transmitted infections:
You may decide that the risks of oral sex are low enough for you to continue your regular behaviour.
You may prefer not to have oral sex because you do not wish to take even a low risk of HIV transmission.
You may decide to reduce the number of partners with whom you have oral sex.
You may decide to have oral sex with barriers such as condoms for men or dental dams (latex squares) for women.
If you don't have HIV, you may decide only to have insertive oral sex (someone giving you oral sex) as this is safer than receptive oral sex (giving someone else oral sex).
You may decide not to ejaculate into your partner's mouth or not to have someone ejaculate into your mouth.
You may decide to avoid oral sex during menstrual periods.
Look after your mouth. The likelihood of becoming infected through giving oral sex increases if someone has bleeding gums, ulcers, cuts or sores in the mouth. Don't brush your teeth or floss just before oral sex.
Have regular sexual health screening. This will identify if you have any sexually transmitted infections, which may increase the likelihood of you transmitting HIV to a negative partner, and reduce the likelihood of you contracting HIV if you are HIV-negative.
Find out more.
For more information on oral sex and sexual transmission of HIV, you may find the information in our publications HIV & sex or HIV transmission & testing helpful. Online versions of these are freely available in the resources section of our website: www.aidsmap.com/resources..
Cephlapod Love
05-27-16, 13:56
Find out more.
For more information on oral sex and sexual transmission of HIV, you may find the information in our publications HIV & sex or HIV transmission & testing helpful. Online versions of these are freely available in the resources section of our website: www.aidsmap.com/resources..All of that is good information to know so that anyone can make an individual decision as to risks involved in unprotected sex.
Also be aware that the percentage of people running around with an HIV infection is in the range of 2-3%. Since this site is about M-F sex we need to note that the percentage of women with HIV infection is <1%. Of course some groups are higher risk: injection drug users, poverty, and race.
Then that site says that there is a risk of 1 in 1,000 (0. 1%) of getting HIV from vaginal intercourse with an infected woman.
So know the facts and evaluate the risks for yourself.
CrazyButTrue
05-29-16, 09:52
Great report! Could you please let us know how much this cost? I'm unfamiliar with that club mainly because I was told that extras were rare in there. But now you got me curious! I got used to the cheaters prices before they folded where a BBBJCIM from Tashsa or Foxy (the stripper not the club LOL) or Cleo (that's going WAY back!) was 100 or less plus the 45 house / entry / godiva fees. How does the situation there at Foxy's compare? Is there enough privacy to get that done during peak hours? Personally I'd rather get blown in a private booth than out in the open, what does that cost, do you know? Thanks.Hi all. I went to Zebra a few weeks ago. I never "participate" in any activities at these places, I usually just observe and hang at the stage and my buddy is the one that tends to go to the back room for "extras. " Anyway, This girl approached me. She had an ok face, awesome tight little body and she was engaging as far as conversation goes. She talked me into a dance and then talked me into that back room but gave me two free dances in the open area before going into the back room. She said it would be $100 total for 15 minutes but would throw in the two free dances I just had at no charge. So I say "why not?" She danced and then to my shock started to unzip me. At that point I figured ok, guess I may get a tug? Nope, she started to give me a BBBJ. I was a little tipsy so I said to myself, self, too late to ask for protection at this point, I guess I should let her finish. So she finished and swallowed. Most guys would have loved that, I however was horrified of catching something, especially after seeing her willingness to do anything. So I zipped up and asked if she was clean and she said yes. Said that it was her first day working and she dances at another place usually (I think Cadillac).
So 4 days go by and I start getting some HORRIBLE symptoms down there. After two embarrassing trips to my doctor and two weeks of cipro twice a day, I am back to normal and all tests negative. I am going to get tested again in a few months to make sure I did not catch something more serious. Doctor says very unlikely that I did and no real need to test again but I am a worry wort. Lesson for me here, I will NEVER do anything again without protection. So either she lied to me about being clean or perhaps I am just allergic to dirty skanky hoes. Just wanted to share my experience with the rest of you and to say be careful out there!! My buddy says I am the luckiest guy to get a BBJ and all those dances for $100 and was pissed that he does not get deals like that and was pissed at me for asking her if she was clean because now I may have ruined it for the rest of you. My response to him after this experience was I told him you guys can have it all! I am all set with getting extras at a nudie bar after that experience.
I moved this to the appropriate thread.
A2
Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.
Jizz Khalifa
05-29-16, 23:34
Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.Uhh. We'll help you if you help us. Who in the hell is she?
BarebackKing
05-29-16, 23:37
First can you message me the girl? Hopefully I haven't seen her LOL andi think I have a doctor or a place where you can get it message me.
Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.
Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.For drips treatment you need combination of Azythromycine (orally- usually given at a single large (1 mg= two pills) and Ceftriaxone (comercially known as Rocephin; single injecttion intramuscular in the butt; 250 mg). You need to go to the doctor's office to be treated. Do not mix up or borrow antibiotics on your own as you make make the bacteria to become resistant and complicate the situation.
Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.You can buy it over the counter in Mexico. You may want to take a drive to Tijuana.
You can buy it over the counter in Mexico. You may want to take a drive to Tijuana.Went to Tijuana recently to purchase the same thing. The "major" farmacia I went to down there wouldn't see it to me without a prescription. Had to ask a local friendly taxi driver if he knew a place that sold without prescription. Took me to some place behind Revolucion and I think I might have gotten sold some bunk, expired meds. Good luck.
Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.http://www.alldaychemist.com/doxrid.html
CreamyBare
05-30-16, 17:21
As a public service for the guy below that indicated an issue, here again is the meds for mongers list.
Keeping in mind that my (ex) girlfriend was a porn star, I've learned a lot about STDs. This thread is to discuss STD identification and treatment.
Note: I am not a medical doctor, I am only citing information from the CDC. I do not provide medical advice.
Herpes: if you are a monger, you have it, though you may not have any symptoms. Symptoms are tiny clear fluid filled blisters go away after a few days. Treatment Is Valtrex which is available as a generic. If you have frequent outbreaks, you can take one Valtrex a day for suppression. Condoms do not adequately protect against herpes.
Hepatitis: you should be vaccinated for A and B. The vaccination protocol takes 18 months.
ANNUAL TESTING
You should be tested at least annually for syphilis, hepatitis, and HIV. These diseases frequently have no obvious symptoms, and the earlier you get treatment, the better your life will be.
Things you won't attempt to self treat:
Syphillis: requires one or more injections of penicillin. There are some alternate therapies for penicillin allergivpc patients.
Hepatitis C: apparently there is now a cure, and it is costly: Havroni is $1200 a pill, with one pill a day for 12 weeks.
Things you might self treat:
Ureatheral:
Chlamydia: Doxycycline works for chlamydia, but you have to take it twice a day for a week. Preferred is Azithromycin as a 1000 mg single dose (you still need to wait a week to have sex to prevent spreading the disease).
Gonorrhea: Cipro (ciprofloxacin) was the drug of choice for gonorrhea. But the CDC now recommends an injection of Ceftriaxone. Ciprofloxacin was 500 mg one time dose. (Gonorrhea is very weak). Current guidelines is I'm injection Ceftriaxone and 1000 mg Azithromycin.
Alternate (for gonorrhea self treatment without injection) is Cefixime 400 mg orally in a single dose, plus Azithromycin 1 g orally in a single dose.
The Azithromycin is added to target other UTI that may accompany the clap, including chlamydia.
Parasites and Fungal
Scabies/lice/crabs: treated with a permethrin cream. 5% for scabies. You can make your own permethrin cream using Martins Permethrin 10% (water based) and mixing 50/50 with a good lotion. Cover entire body up to scalp, avoid eyes and face. Leave on for 14 hours. Wash all bed linen ends in hot water and dry for an hour. Martin's Permethrin 10% is available on Amazon as its a general broad spectrum pesticide.
Ivermectin Is an oral treatment for scabies. 200 micrograms per Kg or body weight (154 lbs would take 18 mg once, mane again in two weeks).
Trichomoniasis Is treated with an oral dose of Metronidazole 2 g orally in a single dose or Tinidazole 2 g orally in a single dose. It is very important to not drink alcohol for at least 24 hours after these.
Candida (yeast infection) (unlikely but possible for a male to have it) is treated mainly by an anti fungal cream (monistat). Most treatments for jock itch are also effective against candida. But you'll notice everything that the concentrations in products like monistat are higher than most jock itch creams. For instance Ticonazole 6. 5% for one time application, or Clotrimazole 2% for three day application.
Oral Diflucain (expensive) is also useful for candida. (Fluconazole 150 mg orally in a single dose).
Meds for mongers:
This is a shopping list for Meds. I have not determined yet if they are all available from a Mexican pharmacy (the main way to get Meds without an Rx).
Oral:
Azithromycin 1000 mg, (UTI's and chlamydia, and a lot of others).
Ciprofloxacin 500 mg OR Cefixime 400 mg (clap. Ciprofloxacin also for some other bacterial infections).
Metronidazole 2 g OR Tinidazole 2 g (Trich).
Fluconazole 150 mg (yeast and systemic fungal infection).
Ivermectin (Two doses of 18 mg for a 154 lb person.) (scabies and some parasites).
Topical ointments / creams:
Ticonazole 6. 5% OR Clotrimazole 2% OR Miconazole 2% (yeast or other fungus like tinea).
Martin's Permethrin 10% mixed 50/50 with lotion to make a 5% mixture. (Scabies and lice).
Other: doxycycline 100 mg twice a day for 7 days for chlymidia and some others is an alternate to Azithromycin. Azithromycin is preferred, but if you find yourself using it often, you should alternate with doxycycline to prevent resistant strains.
For more in depth details, and an easy to use wall chart, see the CDC PAGE:
http://www.cdc.gov/std/tg2015/default.htm
Dose equivalents:
1 g = 1000 mg.
1 mg = 1000 micrograms.
1 Kg = 2. 2 lbs (body weight).
Cephlapod Love
05-31-16, 13:23
You need to go to the doctor's office to be treated. Do not mix up or borrow antibiotics on your own as you make make the bacteria to become resistant and complicate the situation.Jeez dude! Anyone self treating an STD is a hazard to themself and the rest of the hobby! Do it wrong and you create a drug resistant strain of whatever that will take Herculean efforts by a team of Docs to get rid of? Plus you may think you have cured it and end up spreading the newly resistant strain to a bunch of girls!
Go find a public health clinic and get tested and treated! Most county Health Departments (HDs) have an STD clinic or can tell you where to find a free one. Many are anonymous! I live in a state that has its head up its azz and to get tested for free one has to show Gov't I'd. No problem, I just drive 15 miles across the state line to the adjacent county's HD for free testing. Shoot years ago the intake girl said the testing was anonymous and winked at me and told me they have a whole file full of Minney Mouses and Donald Ducks! LOL! I made up a monger name and gave a local pub's address to look legit. Gave them my monger phone number too! I took the task of anonymity on myself!. Testing is free. I never had anything, but a buddy told me he tested positive for something and when he came back for results they gave him the shot or pills on the spot to get treated!
Years ago, in another region of the country, the GF I was monogamous with gave me "the clap" (pizzing razor blades). Went to the City's HD and got diagnosed and treated (this was BEFORE AIDS). All of it confidential and low cost or free.
If you can't find a Health Department, go to the Planned Parenthood website and find a clinic near you! Yes, PP does other things than family planning & abortion. Anything done there should be confidential and certainly won't show up on your personal medical record. Might be free or at least low cost!
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-center
So, Go find an appropriate testing and treatment. Don't be penny-wise and pound foolish and try to diagnose and treat yourself!
CreamyBare
06-01-16, 01:58
Do NOT self Treat an STD. Too many confidential optionsUh, nope. All STDs are reported to the health department per law (except herpes).
"Confidential" is STILL reported to the county health department.
Cephlapod Love
06-01-16, 10:27
Uh, nope. All STDs are reported to the health department per law (except herpes).
"Confidential" is STILL reported to the county health department.Aren't the laws that require reporting STDs to a Health Departments, state-by-state or county-by-county specific? So what if I go into a clinic, give them the name Creamy Bare and get tested? Who cares if they report my results to a health department? How does that effect me? Where is the harm? I think the reporting requirement is more of a measurement of the state of public health or to demonstrate the need for money from the County funds, rather than some nefarious attempt to get in one's business by Gubmint?
The point is that one needs to get tested and treated by professionals, not self medicated. This isn't a cold and improper treatment can have devastating consequences. If one can stand the risk of going for professional treatment they need to factor that into their risk management practices for mongering. If professional treatment is "too risky" then one should be covered 100% of the time for EVERY sex act or just plain avoid the hobby at together.
I hope one isn't saying that because something isn't confidential and it is a valid reason for self medicating for STDs?
Sigh, I'll get off my soapbox now.
AcWorthDude
06-04-16, 10:21
Reminded me of this.
https://scroguard.com/
Has anyone actually tried it?It is supposed to protect you from herpies. It keeps eveything completely covered so there is no skin contact. Funny that no condom manufactuer has not made something to offer more protection like this is supposed to. Seems like they would.
If anyone has tried them it would be good to hear how well it worked, stayed on, how comfortable it was, and how crazy of a look they got from the girl.
I'm walking through the airport last week and see a huge sign that says "Hepatitis C Testing for Anyone Born During 1945-1965: New CDC Recommendations" . WTF! That time period includes me and since I've been sticking my wanker in lots places over the years I better check up on that statement. I wondered what it is about being born between 1945-1965 that makes one more prone to Hep-C.
So, I go to the CDC website and here are the answers:
What is Hep-C and how do you get it: http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hcv/cfaq.htm.
Hep-C testing for Anyone born 1945-1965: http://www.cdc.gov/features/HepatitisCTesting/.
The Bottom line: 1. Hep-C is spread through sexual contact but the risk of transmission from sexual contact is believed to be low. The risk increases for those who have multiple sex partners, have a sexually transmitted disease, engage in rough sex, or are infected with HIV. More research is needed to better understand how and when Hepatitis C can be spread through sexual contact. , 2. There are high rates of Hepatitis C in people born during 1945-1965. People born during 1945 through 1965 are 5 times more likely than other adults to be infected. In fact, 75% of adults with Hepatitis C were born in these years. The reasons why baby boomers have the highest rates of Hepatitis C are not completely understood.
I don't like No. 2 and, since "he who knows the most controls the situation", I think it's the prudent thing to do to be knowledgeable about the subject.
I don't want to get sick and, I sure as fuck, don't want to give up the women!
This is not a panic call. Just be informed and take care of yourself.
Cum Daddy.
I moved this post to the appropriate thread.
A2
BigMoney21
06-05-16, 21:53
You can only catch herpes during a outbreak only! If that wasn't case almost the whole world will have it. If you see a chick that have out of the ordinary stuff around anywhere on her body that have mucous membranes by all means cease actvity right now! You can catch herpes on your face I know plenty of white people who have freckles spotted all across their face and coming to find out its heroes. And I know some black people who have big pink bumps on their face and coming to find out its herpes also. Pretty soon almost everyone in the US will have some form of the stuff at least according to statistics.
It is supposed to protect you from herpies. It keeps eveything completely covered so there is no skin contact. Funny that no condom manufactuer has not made something to offer more protection like this is supposed to. Seems like they would.
If anyone has tried them it would be good to hear how well it worked, stayed on, how comfortable it was, and how crazy of a look they got from the girl.
You can only catch herpes during a outbreak only! If that wasn't case almost the whole world will have it. If you see a chick that have out of the ordinary stuff around anywhere on her body that have mucous membranes by all means cease actvity right now! You can catch herpes on your face I know plenty of white people who have freckles spotted all across their face and coming to find out its heroes. And I know some black people who have big pink bumps on their face and coming to find out its herpes also. Pretty soon almost everyone in the US will have some form of the stuff at least according to statistics.That is not true. You can catch herpes even when there is not an outbreak or any visible sores. If you don't want to catch herpes: use a rubber and only do sex acts that don't involve ANY skin to skin contact only have sex with girls who have regular std screenings done that test for herpes specifically. If you don't do those things, you will always be at risk to get herpes. Some guys have accepted the risk, some guys have no clue how any of this works.
The Parrot
06-06-16, 02:41
That is not true. You can catch herpes even when there is not an outbreak or any visible sores. If you don't want to catch herpes: use a rubber and only do sex acts that don't involve ANY skin to skin contact only have sex with girls who have regular std screenings done that test for herpes specifically. If you don't do those things, you will always be at risk to get herpes. Some guys have accepted the risk, some guys have no clue how any of this works.Yes, you speak the truth brother. Viral shedding can occur whether an outbreak is present or NOT. I did my research on it, any sort of skin to skin contact puts you at risk. Just remember its a skin condition, Some babies even have it on their face and eyes from passing through during birth. Some kids get it from kissing their mothers.
Was reading an article about mariah careys sister who is hiv positive and an ex escort / prostitute and it got me thinking. How many of these girls have the hiv? Over the 17 years iv partaken in the hobby iv probably seen over 100 different girls and I even had a business arrangement with 4 or 5 girls over the years but thankfully iv never been with a girl who iv known had hiv and iv been tested and remain hiv negative despite going bareback with maybe 15 different girls over the years. Sometimes the little head takes over but its never hurt me other than 1 time when I had gonorrhea. Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids? How often do you guys get tested? And how many of these girls probably have hiv?
Bench Warmer
06-08-16, 04:05
I really wanted DATY, so I go down on her and I have to say this was the most gross stink situation I've run into with a provider! Like totally disgusting smell.You mentioned that you are concerned about picking up a bug. The two most common causes of vaginal odor is bacterial vaginosis (not STD) or trichomoniasis (STD). There current are no tests that can reliably check for trich. Only women can be tested. The only way they detect it in men is when you give it to a female and she test positive for it. The good news is that men piss it out in 10-14 days. This is why I always smell it before going BB. If it sinks, I go only BJ or wear a cover.
Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis do not have vaginal odor associated with it.
SilentLover
06-08-16, 05:29
BBFS, daty, BBBJ all have risks but may I just say most of us are willing to take that risk. Most are curable, but Just remember herpes is for life. Be safe!
You mentioned that you are concerned about picking up a bug. The two most common causes of vaginal odor is bacterial vaginosis (not STD) or trichomoniasis (STD). There current are no tests that can reliably check for trich. Only women can be tested. The only way they detect it in men is when you give it to a female and she test positive for it. The good news is that men piss it out in 10-14 days. This is why I always smell it before going BB. If it sinks, I go only BJ or wear a cover.
Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis do not have vaginal odor associated with it.
Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids?Do you actually expect anyone to answer that truthfully?
Do you actually expect anyone to answer that truthfully?If we are anonymous, which I hope is the case, then honesty should be expected.
Was reading an article about mariah careys sister who is hiv positive and an ex escort / prostitute and it got me thinking. How many of these girls have the hiv? Over the 17 years iv partaken in the hobby iv probably seen over 100 different girls and I even had a business arrangement with 4 or 5 girls over the years but thankfully iv never been with a girl who iv known had hiv and iv been tested and remain hiv negative despite going bareback with maybe 15 different girls over the years. Sometimes the little head takes over but its never hurt me other than 1 time when I had gonorrhea. Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids? How often do you guys get tested? And how many of these girls probably have hiv?Assume they all are, wear a cover, and then you don't have to worry about it.
ShortIrish
06-10-16, 08:28
Was reading an article about mariah careys sister who is hiv positive and an ex escort / prostitute and it got me thinking. How many of these girls have the hiv? Over the 17 years iv partaken in the hobby iv probably seen over 100 different girls and I even had a business arrangement with 4 or 5 girls over the years but thankfully iv never been with a girl who iv known had hiv and iv been tested and remain hiv negative despite going bareback with maybe 15 different girls over the years. Sometimes the little head takes over but its never hurt me other than 1 time when I had gonorrhea. Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids? How often do you guys get tested? And how many of these girls probably have hiv?I've seen commentary claiming that over 50% of sex workers in Thailand and Amsterdam are HIV positive. There is no reliable data in the US. A high percentage of sex workers aren't aware of their HIV status.
I've seen commentary claiming that over 50% of sex workers in Thailand and Amsterdam are HIV positive. There is no reliable data in the US. A high percentage of sex workers aren't aware of their HIV status.Don't believe everything you read on the internet or mainstream media. I travel to Thailand frequently and know many working girls. I am sure 50% is inflated or years old data. Of course they don't have HIV status tattooed on their forehead so no way I can tell from that.
HuntingStreets
06-10-16, 09:53
Don't believe everything you read on the internet or mainstream media. I travel to Thailand frequently and know many working girls. I am sure 50% is inflated or years old data. Of course they don't have HIV status tattooed on their forehead so no way I can tell from that.Let's be honest, there's risk for doing a prep walk to HIV to STD's in this game. Understanding risk and deciding your level of acceptable risk is paramount. The CDC has interesting stats available about HIV and many other sites confirm them. I'm not going to get into them here, a quick Google search will get you reliable info, especially if you start with the CDC.
Howard5354
06-10-16, 11:44
I've seen commentary claiming that over 50% of sex workers in Thailand and Amsterdam are HIV positive. There is no reliable data in the US. A high percentage of sex workers aren't aware of their HIV status.You just have to look for it. This is from the BBC:
The rate of HIV infections diagnosed in the United States has fallen by a third over the past decade, researchers say.
After examining cases from all 50 states, the study found that the diagnosis rate fell to 16.1 per 100,000 people in 2011 from 24.1 in 2002.
Experts celebrated the findings as a hopeful sign that the Aids epidemic may be slowing in the country.
However, there was a rise in new cases of HIV among gay and bisexual men aged under 24 and over 45.
Just keep your boots on and you won't have to worry too much about HIV.
BigMoney21
06-10-16, 19:55
It's funny how you said that you can catch herpes even without a outbreak. When a relative of mines who has it and before they had a outbreak, we used eat and drink after that person and none of us tested positive for it. And when that relative got tested for herpes that person had it in their system for a while. I know plenty of people who have the virus and I can on with giving you examples and case scenarios but if you have any other means to prove it by all means do so. The only thing I can tell you is that a condom can't protect you from it but it can reduce your chances of catching it during a outbreak only if used and remove properly.
That is not true. You can catch herpes even when there is not an outbreak or any visible sores. If you don't want to catch herpes: use a rubber and only do sex acts that don't involve ANY skin to skin contact only have sex with girls who have regular std screenings done that test for herpes specifically. If you don't do those things, you will always be at risk to get herpes. Some guys have accepted the risk, some guys have no clue how any of this works.
It's funny how you said that you can catch herpes even without a outbreak. When a relative of mines who has it and before they had a outbreak, we used eat and drink after that person and none of us tested positive for it. And when that relative got tested for herpes that person had it in their system for a while. I know plenty of people who have the virus and I can on with giving you examples and case scenarios but if you have any other means to prove it by all means do so. The only thing I can tell you is that a condom can't protect you from it but it can reduce your chances of catching it during a outbreak only if used and remove properly.The HS1&2 virus is not active unless a person is having an outbreak, which is the only time it can be transmitted. A person generally know 2-3 days in advance if that's about to happen because they get a tingling sensation in the area of the outbreak. So if they ignore that fact, then maybe it could be transmitted in that window with out visual symptoms. Some Dr. 's will advise patients to take a low dose (500 mg) of Valtrex daily to prevent outbreaks. What people should be more concerned about is the transmission of Hep-C which is largely transmitted by sexual contact. Hep-C shows no symptoms and can only be detected by blood test.
The HS1&2 virus is not active unless a person is having an outbreak, which is the only time it can be transmitted. A person generally know 2-3 days in advance if that's about to happen because they get a tingling sensation in the area of the outbreak. So if they ignore that fact, then maybe it could be transmitted in that window with out visual symptoms. Some Dr. 's will advise patients to take a low dose (500 mg) of Valtrex daily to prevent outbreaks. What people should be more concerned about is the transmission of Hep-C which is largely transmitted by sexual contact. Hep-C shows no symptoms and can only be detected by blood test.http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/12/how-many-patients-spread-herpes-but-dont-even-know-they-have-it/
Most people who have herpes don't have outbreaks. They can still transmit it. Herpes much more easily spread during an outbreak but can still be spread when a person isn't having an outbreak. This has been known for some time. Please look things up before you spread misinformation. And please lets drop this issue so this thread can get back on the topic of telling people where they can get children swallowed in the VIP room.
It's funny how you said that you can catch herpes even without a outbreak. When a relative of mines who has it and before they had a outbreak, we used eat and drink after that person and none of us tested positive for it. And when that relative got tested for herpes that person had it in their system for a while. I know plenty of people who have the virus and I can on with giving you examples and case scenarios but if you have any other means to prove it by all means do so. The only thing I can tell you is that a condom can't protect you from it but it can reduce your chances of catching it during a outbreak only if used and remove properly.
The HS1&2 virus is not active unless a person is having an outbreak, which is the only time it can be transmitted. A person generally know 2-3 days in advance if that's about to happen because they get a tingling sensation in the area of the outbreak. So if they ignore that fact, then maybe it could be transmitted in that window with out visual symptoms. Some Dr. 's will advise patients to take a low dose (500 mg) of Valtrex daily to prevent outbreaks. What people should be more concerned about is the transmission of Hep-C which is largely transmitted by sexual contact. Hep-C shows no symptoms and can only be detected by blood test.Man, someone gave you dudes some super false information. CDC says that almost 80% of HSV infections actually occur when there are NO symptoms. Does it even make sense that most people would catch genital herpes when they're visible vs when they're not? Nothing in either of these posts is even close to being accurate.
Cephlapod Love
06-12-16, 12:09
And how many of these girls probably have hiv?There are no known statistics for sex workers in the USA: at least not that I have found. (probably the girls in legal brothers in NV are cleaner than the general population) However, just about EVERY state has a Health Department that collects HIV infection information and rates. That information is usually available on the State HD's website as a report. Then those statistics get rolled up by the CDC.
Generally rates of HIV infect for women is less than 2% of the population. So just a random girl selected from the population 98% (or more) would be clean. Often these reports serrate infection in women by race.
But there are other factors that increase the risk. For example a girl that is or was an IV drug user, being in a minority and often lower on the income scale are all factors that "can" suggest an increased risk.
As far as herpes goes, I'd like to see some credible statistics on the rate of transmission with someone who is NOT having an outbreak. The point is that the risk might be quite small. I am sure it is not zero, but also sure it is not 100%. But is Zero risk or even 5% change is too much for you, then monogamy with a clean partner is your answer.
Problem I see is that this topic gets emotional for many pretty rapidly. I like to know the facts and evaluate the risk based on the facts.
Cephlapod Love
06-12-16, 12:10
Man, someone gave you dudes some super false information. CDC says that almost 80% of HSV infections actually occur when there are NO symptoms. Does it even make sense that most people would catch genital herpes when they're visible vs when they're not? Nothing in either of these posts is even close to being accurate.OK, that is some pretty strong statements there. Can you back it up with exact language from a CDC report and a link to the report it'self?
Jay Play42
07-05-16, 15:41
Lately its been taking me a long time to nut with condoms.
I used to use Magnum Thins but have found the Trojan Ecstasy feel good.
I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.
Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?
I once met a provider who came with flavored condoms.
She gave me an incredible CBJ, it almost felt like she was using nothing at all on the CBJ and during FS I had to check to see if it was on it felt so natural.
Don't know what she used and Haven't been able to find another condom to feel the same.So After I posted this I got feedback to try condomdepot and try the crown skinless.
I ordered a box of 12 but only got through 2 or 3 of them.
I think I'm a bit above average, I find the Magnum, magmun thins or ecstasy fit me best but These condoms are way too tight for me.
They also arent very lubricated. The first chic I tried them with was reasonably wet to penetrating was no issue but these condoms were choking me down below.
I can say I felt her warmth better with them but eventually I had to pull it off as it was getting uncomfortable for me.
Second time with different chic was very uncomfortable, I tried removing and putting another but still too tight and dry so I gave up on these.
I'm going to try to kimono large next but I wasted money on the crowns. I guess they really are suited for asian guys, LOL.
John Dough
08-19-16, 23:25
So After I posted this I got feedback to try condomdepot and try the crown skinless.
I ordered a box of 12 but only got through 2 or 3 of them.
I think I'm a bit above average, I find the Magnum, magmun thins or ecstasy fit me best but These condoms are way too tight for me.
I'm going to try to kimono large next but I wasted money on the crowns. I guess they really are suited for asian guys, LOL.The comfort depends on the width at the base. Crown skinless and Kimono large are both 52 mm wide at the base. The regular Kimono thin is also 52 mm at the base. Only the head is wider on the large. Look for something that is 54 or 56 mm wide at the base for latex condoms and more for polyurethane. You can get the stats here:
http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-size-chart/condom-size-chart
The thinnest condom available is the Unique Pull. It is even thinner than the Japanese ones. Unique is 0.015 mm thick. Sagami Original 0.01 is actually 0.018 mm thick and is made of polyurethane. The width of the Sagami is 55 mm, but this is a material that doesn't stretch, so you need wider. The Unique is 60 mm wide and also doesn't stretch. It is made of polyethylene resin.
http://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest-condoms/thinnest-condoms
You can buy the Unique Pull here:
https://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-non-latex-condoms-reviews
There is more information about the Unique Pull here:
http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-brands/unique-pull-condoms-reviewed-thin-condoms-pull-strips-credit-card-package
WonderBoy1111
08-24-16, 20:01
Hi there. I'm still pretty new here. So I'm not sure if this has been covered before. But what would you guys say is the risk with going with BBFS? I know nothing feels like the real thing so we all prefer uncovered. But what's the risk usually involved in this?
Cephlapod Love
08-25-16, 17:33
Hi there. I'm still pretty new here. So I'm not sure if this has been covered before. But what would you guys say is the risk with going with BBFS? I know nothing feels like the real thing so we all prefer uncovered. But what's the risk usually involved in this?Risk depends on many things. Each person sees risk differently and has different tolerances for risk, whether rational or irrational. So in the end one has to figure this out for them self.
What "risk" are you concerned about? HIV? Or catching any STD? Pregnancy?
I would suggest reading the thread and see if any of your questions get answered. History usually has a lot to teach, rather than asking for an instant recap.
So do some looking around and evaluating and then ask some more specific questions or give some more specific info as to your situation? Are you proposing to go BB with SWs, AMP girls, CL hook-ups, BP Advertisers, Escorts, drunk girls from a bar, SBs?
As far as I can tell there is nothing out there right now that will kill you, unless untreated. A large majority of STDs can be "cured," the rest managed as "chronic conditions." As far as HIV infection rates go, each State Health Dept should keep statistics and have publicly available information. In general, infection rates for women are 2% or less. That means a random girl has a 98% chance of being clean. But there are many risk factors that can skew that tremendously and knowing those is important imho to evaluating risk.
Oh and I hope you aren't one of these double standard kind of guys? You know the dude stepping out on his SO who catches something and then freaks out because of the "stigma" of catching something suggests her is some how "dirty. ".
So what exactly is your situation and what exactly do you want to know? .
Member #5262
08-26-16, 17:24
Hi there. I'm still pretty new here. So I'm not sure if this has been covered before. But what would you guys say is the risk with going with BBFS? I know nothing feels like the real thing so we all prefer uncovered. But what's the risk usually involved in this?Depends who you are messing with and precalence if stds in your part of the country. The heart of Midwest (ie Oklahoma, Indiana, etc) is far safer for things like HIV than say inner city Detroit, NYC, or Baltimore.
No chance I'd EVER bareback a street walker. That's how you end up w / HIV. Barebacking bar sluts or random internet hookups will almost guarantee you the clap at some point, but if you're single so what? Your piss burns for a day or two and then you get a shot in the ass and you're right as rain.
Bottom line. Wear a fucking condom. They work (most of the time) .
Cephlapod Love
08-27-16, 15:42
Depends who you are messing with and precalence if stds in your part of the country. The heart of Midwest (ie Oklahoma, Indiana, etc) is far safer for things like HIV than say inner city Detroit, NYC, or Baltimore.Would sure like to see some facts / statistic to back that up! Seems to suggest some biases.
Yeah, $250 for GFE = girl friend experience! So that means kissing, BBBJ and probably BBFS.
Standard rate is still $160 and is no kissing or lfk, CBJ and cfs.I don't think BBFS is safe. Just my opinion.
Do you know their opening hour?
Cephlapod Love
09-04-16, 17:28
I don't think BBFS is safe. Just my opinion.
Well, you asked about the 250 rate. Made no judgement about it, just reported.
There is a Safe Sex thread here on USA if anyone wishes to read and discuss safe sex practices.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?268-Safe-Sex
Everyone has opinions. But part of mongering is "risk assessment" and everyone has to do their own evaluation.
John Dough
09-06-16, 23:58
Quoting from the following links:
http://justherpes.com/herpesremedies/monolaurin-herpes-lauricidin/
"monolaurin is an antiviral supplement that is used to treat all strains of the herpes virus and other viral infections such as measles. Found naturally in breast milk and coconut oil, but otherwise rare in nature".
"It is thought that monolauric acid is effective in treating the herpes virus by liquefying the fats and phospholipids found inside the viral protein cell walls".
http://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/sexual-health/herpes/
"try taking monolaurin, a nontoxic, antiviral supplement made from lauric acid (a fatty acid found in breast milk). It is used to treat infections with all strains of the herpes virus along with other viral infections. Monolaurin is believed to have the potential to permanently inactivate the fat coated viruses that cause these diseases by fluidizing the lipids (fats) and phospholipids in their envelopes, leading to the disintegration of viral particles".
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/Anyone-tried-monolaurin-capsules-to-prevent-OBs/show/1792043
"Anyone tried monolaurin capsules to prevent OBs? I have, they worked and I'm passing on the info. I'm 55, going through menopause and have been plagued by genital herpes (from oral sex) for 34 years. I researched the Net and found out about lauric acid (derived from coconuts) and how it removes the protective shell of the herpes virus and leaves it open for your immune system to attack and destroy and Hallelujah! It actually does work. I shake my head in wonderment. It's over six months now that I took my first capsule and I've gone from two attacks a month to none".
John Dough
09-07-16, 11:28
"monolaurin is an antiviral supplement that is used to treat all strains of the herpes virus".Maybe taking monolaurin could help prevent catching herpes. Maybe not. Just a theory. Worth a try if money is no object.
Maybe taking monolaurin could help prevent catching herpes. Maybe not. Just a theory. Worth a try if money is no object.Thanks for this. This is interesting.
I always practice this hobby as safely as possible (I'm kind of a germophobe) and lately I've been largely out of the game. Every once in a while I get tempted to hit up Backpage but it takes a lot to get me to go through with a date from there and I almost always regret it afterward (see my recent posts). Lots of risk for what usually turns out to be a very lackluster, overpriced experience. My preference is usually to find an under the radar, pretty 20-something who's looking for an ongoing thing on the DL to supplement an otherwise legit lifestyle. And even with her, I wrap it up religiously for all activities. So far, I've been very fortunate and haven't contracted anything, ever.
One of the things that scares me the most is herpes. It's pretty difficult for a careful hetero non-drug using white dude to get HIV (statistically), and most of the other usual suspects are treatable with antibacterials. But herpes is forever. I know it's manageable, and it's not the end of the world and for most people it generally keeps to itself most of the time, but I've never even had so much as a cold sore and I'd really rather avoid it altogether if I can.
My germophobe self has been reading a lot about STD's (it's sort of a weird obsession. WTF), and I've been coming across articles about the antiviral, antibacterial and antifungal properties of coconut oil and tea tree oil lately, and a product popped up called Protecteav:
https://www.camellix.com/products/protecteav-egcg-hand-sanitizer
It's basically a hand sanitizer, with the usual 70% alcohol base, but it also has epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG), the main constituent of green tea which allegedly gives it additional antimicrobial properties. There's some promising info out there that suggests that EGCG may have properties which could actually prevent infection with a variety of viruses and bacteria, including herpes, hepatitis C, and even the flu.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23072320
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26490660
http://researchpub.org/journal/jbpr/number/vol2-no3/vol2-no3-5.pdf
http://www.heraldopenaccess.us/fulltext/Antivirals-Antiretrovirals-Research-&-Therapy/Virucidal-Capacity-of-Novel-ProtecTeaV-Sanitizer-Formulations-Containing-Lipophilic-Epigallocatechin-3-Gallate-(EGCG). Php#tab2.
So it's known that condoms offer some protection against herpes but only of the skin the condom actually covers, plus it protects the mucus membrane at the tip of the penis. The pee-hole. Which is awesome, but not a complete solution. The area right around the penis, and the scrotum are definitely exposed to any nasties lurking around your playmate's vagina and / or mouth, and since herpes is transmitted by skin / skin contact. Yeah.
Herpes is a actually relatively fragile virus and, like HIV, it's of a type that has a "lipid envelope" which is a fatty layer that surrounds it and kind of holds it all together. If this fatty layer is destroyed, the virus is effectively "killed" (some people say viruses can't be killed since they aren't really living things to begin with, but you get the idea). The alcohol in hand sanitizers will destroy the lipid layer of viruses on the skin if left on long enough, and it's suggested that tea tree oil (EGCG) and coconut oil (monolaurin) can be effective in destroying the lipid layer too.
The Protecteav website says very clearly that the product provides a "2-hour protective barrier of protection". Very interesting (and somewhat vague) claim. Who knows if it's true, but I for one am not above lathering up the lads and area around my junk not covered by a condom with this stuff before and after an encounter (with a hot shower in there too for good measure) if it will inhibit infection by the herp.
There's also a bodywash called Defense Soap.
http://defensesoap.com
Which contains Tea Tree Oil too. This product is aimed at contact athletes who are at risk of contracting skin diseases from contact with others through wrestling, ju-jitsu, etc. They claim, among other things, that using it reduces the chances of contracting Herpes Gladiatorum, which is essentially the HSV-1 virus. Could it work for us too?
If you're interested, there's quite a bit of info on the web about this stuff. No one is actually coming out and saying "use this stuff to prevent herpes" yet, but the research appears promising. Food for thought. And the obligatory "I am not a doctor. ".
I really should find a new hobby. Skydiving anyone? .
It's not an opinion. It's a scientific fact.
I don't think BBFS is safe. Just my opinion.
Do you know their opening hour?
John Dough
09-14-16, 13:35
So it's known that condoms offer some protection against herpes but only of the skin the condom actually covers. The area right around the penis, and the scrotum are definitely exposed to any nasties lurking around your playmate's vagina and / or mouth, and since herpes is transmitted by skin / skin contact. I for one am not above lathering up the lads and area around my junk not covered by a condom with this stuff before and after an encounter (with a hot shower in there too for good measure) if it will inhibit infection by the herp.Another product you could consider using before sex is a skin barrier cream. The active ingredient in products like Derma Shield and Gloves in a Bottle is dimethicone. It bonds with dead surface skin cells and stays in place until those cells are shed. Dimethicone is also used in silicone lubricants. The trick would be to wipe off any excess that might make the condom slip.
Cephlapod Love
09-16-16, 19:49
It's not an opinion. It's a scientific fact.Really? And can you share the scientific facts please? I'd like to see them.
DuvalBaller
09-23-16, 09:46
I've never posted but have been active with the girls of BP. Concerned over STD's. Are they common with any of the girls? Also any suggestions on where to get the "shot" if in fact there is a concern? Any input is appreciated.
MyDarkSide
09-23-16, 17:38
I've never posted but have been active with the girls of BP. Concerned over STD's. Are they common with any of the girls? Also any suggestions on where to get the "shot" if in fact there is a concern? Any input is appreciated.No one wants to really read this as the truth results in much less fun. I have pretty limited time in this but can assure you they are very common -- wildly common. And several (gonorrhea, chlamydia, hpv, hsv (herpes)) can be easily passed between month and organ during BBBJ (ejaculate is irrelevant) or anal. Throw in trichomoniasis and these things are so widespread that anyone having unprotected, penetrative sex with a BP girl is virtually guaranteed to get one or more of these.
Read that again and let it sink in.
BBBJ still comes with high risk but the good news is that most of the orally passed stuff is easily curable (and that which isn't is limited in male health damage.).
If you have a significant other involved you'll continue to reinfect yourself until she's treated. And the health damage to females and their reproductive system (and / or child during delivery) is much greater.
You can get treated at a family doc or one of those urgent care facilities all over. Shot in butt combined with one dosage of oral antibiotics and you're good in a couple days. (You could go to planned parenthood and save a few bucks but there are likely a couple weeks waiting time.) For a few bucks you can go online and get tested. Confidential and about 2 or 3 days.
I'm clean but acknowledging the above has really spoiled the fun for me. And of course there are rare infections without cure.
Cephlapod Love
09-25-16, 09:27
No one wants to really read this as the truth results in much less fun. I have pretty limited time in this but can assure you they are very common -- wildly common. And several (gonorrhea, chlamydia, hpv, hsv (herpes)) can be easily passed between month and organ during BBBJ (ejaculate is irrelevant) or anal. Throw in trichomoniasis and these things are so widespread that anyone having unprotected, penetrative sex with a BP girl is virtually guaranteed to get one or more of these.
Read that again and let it sink in.I get that you feel violated because you caught something from a provider. But without cold hard facts one is just pushing an emotional agenda.
So to counter the claim that these are "very common. Wildly common" and "penetrative sex with a BP girl is virtually guaranteed to get one or more of these. " I'll offer statistics from the CDC. One can check out the report for them self.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats14/surv-2014-print.pdf
Prevelance of STDs in the USA.
Chlamydia - 456.1 cases per 100,000 - 0.46%.
Syphilis - 6. 3 cases per 100,000 population - 0.063%.
Gonorrhea - 110.7 cases per 100,000 population - 0.111%.
Then relative to this discussion is the transmission rate for various sex acts? In other words what is the actual risk, not the "perceived risk?" Is the transmission rate 100%? 50%? 10%?
Found this info.
https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/std-statistics/
So what is "high risk?
If less than 1% of a random sample of people have an STD, then what is the potential risk of catching something? How does a transmission rate of less than 100% effect one's "risk?" What types of sex acts are more likely to transmit a STD? What groups (age, race, gender, orientation) are higher risk?
Yeah, it is terrible when one catches something and not what I'd wish on anyone. But that isn't indicative of what the reality is.
That said, covering up for sex can reduce the risk.
MyDarkSide
09-26-16, 21:50
I get that you feel violated because you caught something from a provider. But without cold hard facts one is just pushing an emotional agenda.
So to counter the claim that these are "very common. Wildly common" and "penetrative sex with a BP girl is virtually guaranteed to get one or more of these. " I'll offer statistics from the CDC. One can check out the report for them self.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats14/surv-2014-print.pdf
Prevelance of STDs in the USA.
Chlamydia - 456.1 cases per 100,000 - 0.46%.
Syphilis - 6. 3 cases per 100,000 population - 0.063%.
Gonorrhea - 110.7 cases per 100,000 population - 0.111%.
Then relative to this discussion is the transmission rate for various sex acts? In other words what is the actual risk, not the "perceived risk?" Is the transmission rate 100%? 50%? 10%?
Found this info.
https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/std-statistics/
So what is "high risk?
If less than 1% of a random sample of people have an STD, then what is the potential risk of catching something? How does a transmission rate of less than 100% effect one's "risk?" What types of sex acts are more likely to transmit a STD? What groups (age, race, gender, orientation) are higher risk?
Yeah, it is terrible when one catches something and not what I'd wish on anyone. But that isn't indicative of what the reality is.
That said, covering up for sex can reduce the risk.I don't feel violated at all. I do feel I vastly underestimated the prevalence of stds among BP providers (and as an aside, find it amazing that a response to a question gets censored in the thread in violation of any forum rules. We can talk about robberies, drugs, catfishes, smells, rushing, comms, etc but not CDC numbers on diseases LOL but I digress.) You provide stats for general population on a few common diseases but leave out the two most common-- hpv and trichomoniasis. In fact the CDC states that hpv "is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives. ".
I think it'd be a rare exception to find an active BP provider engaged in bb activities who is clean. Virtually impossible. Extrapolating CDC general population data to BP girls is dangerous and, imo, quite flawed.
Hey guys, question regarding partner notification from the government. If I do not provide my wife's name will they go and try to find her / look her up anyways for Chlamydia (reportable disease). Any dealt with this issue recently? Wife is at no risk FYI, otherwise I wouldn't be out on the loop. But I don't need to go through this headache if uncle Sam is being nosy.
Hey guys, question regarding partner notification from the government. If I do not provide my wife's name will they go and try to find her / look her up anyways for Chlamydia (reportable disease). Any dealt with this issue recently? Wife is at no risk FYI, otherwise I wouldn't be out on the loop. But I don't need to go through this headache if uncle Sam is being nosy.You're that worried look for an anonymous clinic. There are plenty.34th
DoinItforYears
10-01-16, 08:17
Hey guys, question regarding partner notification from the government. If I do not provide my wife's name will they go and try to find her / look her up anyways for Chlamydia (reportable disease). Any dealt with this issue recently? Wife is at no risk FYI, otherwise I wouldn't be out on the loop. But I don't need to go through this headache if uncle Sam is being nosy.I post only when I have something real to contribute, so here goes. In the early 90's in Waterbury, I saw the same hooker repeatedly and she was always clean. She would call my office when she and her boyfriend needed money and I would drive 40 min to the Bury, do the deed and drive back to my office. About a day after an oral encounter, I noticed a sore on my dick and a dose of neosporin had no effect on it so off to the clinic I was using as a primary care physician. Tested for Herpes and Syphilis, sent across the street to drug store and immediately got drugs for both and got the penicillin shot and ointment for Herpes. Now the Doc tells me he has to report this to the State. He does, they call me and I have to go to Dept of Health in Hartford. Fill out a question aire, they interview me and then tell me my wife needs to get the shot also and I have the weekend to tell her or they will. In the meantime a diagnosis of Syphilis was confirmed and I am agahst to get it from a BJ. Worst weekend of my life. Told my girlfriend also and she was ok with it as she was married and knew she wasn't enough for me and knew about other activities. I begged female Doc who treated my wife to leave a sliver of doubt as to how I got it and that was enough to save my immediate ass. The hooker did have what I thought was a cold sore above her lip. So I caught up with her and told her she had a problem and she needed to handle it. She did and then gave Waterbury Dept of Health MY NAME. They called me in for an interview, tested me at 3 mos. , 6 mos. , and a year at which time I showed NO residual evidence because I did something about it so quickly. That's the horror story of the 90's but I think that they are more liberal today to eradicate the disease rather than screw you for getting it. Another time much later, I had a burning sensation on my sac and determined not to go through this again with second wife, Got on computer and found a Doc in Queens that would treat anonymously and went and was, in fact treated anonymously, for what turned out to be a fungal irritation and I asked him if it had been one of the STD's would it still be off the record and he said "yes".
Cephlapod Love
10-01-16, 12:52
Hey guys, question regarding partner notification from the government. If I do not provide my wife's name will they go and try to find her / look her up anyways for Chlamydia (reportable disease). Any dealt with this issue recently? Wife is at no risk FYI, otherwise I wouldn't be out on the loop. But I don't need to go through this headache if uncle Sam is being nosy.I think the days of forced "tell us who is your partner" are over in most places. It is counter productive to wiping out the diseases: no one gets tested.
Best bet is call a few clinics and ask several questions about appointment availability, what tests are done, how long for results and THEN toss in question "IF I have something who contacts my partners?" But shoot you could always claim you went to a swing club, jumped into a group scene and screwed 10 different women, none of who you know their names. And yer buddy took you there when you were drunk and don't remember the name of the place.
Go get tested!
Knucklebuck
10-01-16, 13:25
You're that worried look for an anonymous clinic. There are plenty.34thDo they take insurance?
Cephlapod Love
10-02-16, 09:54
Do they take insurance?If they take insurance, then they aren't anonymous!
Getting tested regularly is all part of the price of playing. If you can't afford the testing, stay home with SO.
Look around for testing sites, it isn't hard to find. Oh yeah, might not be right in your neighborhood, but free anon testing is around. In my state the law requires you to show I'd in order to get tested. That is B#llsh*t so I have never been tested here. But 20-min to the north in a city I found free testing in the heart of the Gayborhood. Sure I had to endure some flamers that were at the check-in desk, but the medical staff was professional. Then to the west I found another county health department where one goes in and gives a name and address and phone number but no I'd required. When I first visited years ago they told me it was anonymous and mentioned they had drawers full of Mickey Mouses. So I gave them my monger name, the address of a local pub and my monger phone number.
Point is that if one looks around, they can probably find anon testing.
I have never tested positive for anything, but a buddy went to the County HD and was pos+ for Chlamydia and they gave him the treatment right there on the spot. Testing sites are trying to stop STDs, not jamb people up or turn a profit.
MyDarkSide
10-02-16, 20:10
Hey guys, question regarding partner notification from the government. If I do not provide my wife's name will they go and try to find her / look her up anyways for Chlamydia (reportable disease). Any dealt with this issue recently? Wife is at no risk FYI, otherwise I wouldn't be out on the loop. But I don't need to go through this headache if uncle Sam is being nosy.I think privacy laws forbid notification -- and most places address testing via email so get a private account. Real problem is that once SO has it you're going to continue to reinfect yourself until she's cleaned up.
Knucklebuck
10-03-16, 16:37
If they take insurance, then they aren't anonymous!
Getting tested regularly is all part of the price of playing. If you can't afford the testing, stay home with SO.No SO so I'm not worried so much about notifications, etc. I get checked regularly at my primary doc but they give me the spiel about notifying the health dept. I play pretty safe anyways. Thanks for the info.
4 pm Dixie south of McNab. Haven't picked her up before so I scooped her up as the light rain started. Agreed upon. 25 for her time. When I took out the cover she asked if I wantes FS and I opted just for a BJ. Nothing special with her technique but seemed open to guidance. Nice firm natural tits which is my thing. Not big but nice. I think you could get FS for that as well the way she acting.Good shit, nice action captured shots and you playing safe. With what I have expirienced, I don't blame you. Thanks for your contributions.
Cali.
Good shit, nice action captured shots and you playing safe. With what I have expirienced, I don't blame you. Thanks for your contributions.
Cali.What bad shit have you experienced about BJ's without a cover? Never had one myself.
What bad shit have you experienced about BJ's without a cover? Never had one myself.I first scored on my first harlot when I was 19 back in 1987. All raw from a WSW on Biscayne Blvd and 85th street when it was crawling with harlots day and night. Went to college in Tampa later in 1990 at USF and when I couldn't get me a student harlot, I go to Nebraska Ave for harlot galore. Got married in 1998 and stopped for awhile until I got divorced 5 yrs later. I was unlucky because before we separated I caught ghonerria but I want fucking my ex wife at the time so I didn't pass it to her. But first time I was scared cause my cock was dripping this yellow fluid and this was about 2001. Well fast forward to 2014 and I caught it again. Wow I had a 13 year streak where I didn't catch anything, BTW I hate covers. This time I have a side GF that I passed this bug too and I wasn't happy. Well May of this year I caught it again. Two times within two years, fuck!
We all gamble and BTW Bunny was the last girl I saw but wasn't sure if she gave it to me cause this bug can lay dormant for weeks until one gets symptoms hence the drip, I know that sucks.
Any other questions.
Oh and Ghonerria isn't the worst or the least cause HPV leaves warts on my cock. Lucky for me my immune system is strong that it keeps it in check but others are not so lucky. Google HPV and you will see worst scenarios as I'm lucky and get a small wart that it's hardly noticeable here and there.
Good luck to all mongers that go bare.
May the horny hunger force be with you.
DarkRaijin
10-14-16, 20:07
What bad shit have you experienced about BJ's without a cover? Never had one myself.LOL we can write this off as a joke OR take it on serious note and spoil the mood. I'm no party poor so let me enlighten you with a fun joke. "Boy you miss 8th grade health class and then your stuck loving soccer for 10 years" . LOL get it.
Since I'm laughing so hard let me now spoil the mood. G-bug aka gonneria or chlamydia are the most common bacterial infections one gets off of bbj. Genetalia infections are easier to cure vs the mouth it is in. LOL. YA know how many tools these harlots suck. As long as your ok its ok. Miami population? Good glad you ran the numbers and know odds are never in our fav.
That said if a hoe stanks up the joint as she sits in my ride I opt for bbj / cfs. You know the smell of walking aka sweat off of her like she needs a shower real bad.
I have gotten msg "ugggghhh I cannot do CBJ oh no what am I going to do"; then shell 150 $ for doc visit and meds and keep going. Thats taking into account med insurance and we all know some hunt SW for fun but many hunt as that is all they can afford. I'll leave it on those fondest of notes.
Buster Hymen
10-21-16, 22:39
Her BBBJ is phenominal since she can do it all. She can DT about 5 inches to the back of her throat but if you have more than 5 inches she can't get it down her throat but will try hard and plenty of spit and the best part is she loves the taste of man juice and will swallow every drop. Don't pull it out and mess up her face or she will be pissed off big time, LOL. As far as FS it was offered up to me and I declined BBFS for many reasons but I did use a party hat and her pussy is too small and too tight for me. When a girl says she is in pain and it hurts too much and that I am too big for her I just can't get excited so I pulled out and pulled off the party hat and had her finish me in her mouth. She reminds me of that skinny girl Jenny that used to live on Alabama Avenue. She also would do BBFS and swallow but I always wore a cover for FS and she would always scream in pain that it hurt. Felt good and tight for me but turns me off if they don't enjoy it also!! So I just decided to stick with their world class BJ's. To each their own but didn't and wouldn't do those girls BBFS and wouldn't recommend it even if they offered it up for free. They both see too many guys and offer up BBFS to unknown strangers and in my book that isn't practicing safe sex. It is almost impossible to get in trouble with BBBJ's and you cannot get HIV from a BBBJ but BBFS is a whole different ball game and yes you can get HIV from BBFS but not from a BBBJ. Everything else can be cured with antibiotics but if you get HIV you will be taking 4 or more pills a day for the rest of your life and you will be sick all the time. Just ask Magic Johnson or Charlie Sheen. Also I believe HornyasHell will back me up on that one. He has probably had a 1000 BBBJ's in his mongering career and stays clean like me. When he does partake in FS he wraps it up like I do. Am I correct on that analysis HAH?It is far more common to get a common STD from BBBJ, that is why I avoid getting them. And it is pretty hard for a cut male to get HIV from vaginal intercourse, about 3,500 to one. Using either Magic J or Charlie Sheen as examples is a poor comparison, both could have been taking it up the ass for all we know, and it is speculated online that Sheen got it from banging trannies (currently the highest risk group) and / or sharing needles with some of the girls he banged, not from fucking some girl.
Knucklebuck
10-22-16, 11:34
...it is speculated online that Sheen got it from banging trannies (currently the highest risk group) and / or sharing needles with some of the girls he banged, not from fucking some girl.When you have so much money and an addiction to risky behavior.
Johnies Quest
10-23-16, 15:14
For all you guys that sing the praises of riding BB.
http://www.dailynews.com/health/20161021/sexually-transmitted-diseases-surge-in-california
Just saying JQ.
For all you guys that sing the praises of riding BB.
http://www.dailynews.com/health/20161021/sexually-transmitted-diseases-surge-in-california
Just saying JQ.That's California though, lot of that is due to the high minority population and immigrant population. I don't plan on ever going there to fuck anyone also. But hope they start being careful out there, they sound like a bunch of dirty and dumb people. Or they just have a high IDGAF level.
For all you guys that sing the praises of riding BB.
http://www.dailynews.com/health/20161021/sexually-transmitted-diseases-surge-in-california
Just saying JQ.It is weird in some big cities I travel to and read their forums there is a lot more casual vibe on the BB stuff. Was in Orlando last summer and read through their Streetwalker thread, and some of these dudes were barebacking everything in sight and proud of it LOL! To each their own.
It is weird in some big cities I travel to and read their forums there is a lot more casual vibe on the BB stuff. Was in Orlando last summer and read through their Streetwalker thread, and some of these dudes were barebacking everything in sight and proud of it LOL! To each their own.Its actually quite sad because I think the all got that special delivery and don't know it or they do know it and sharing it. I would avoid any person they even so much as look at to for too long.
Cephlapod Love
10-24-16, 15:51
For all you guys that sing the praises of riding BB.
http://www.dailynews.com/health/20161021/sexually-transmitted-diseases-surge-in-california
Just saying JQ.Jeez. Let's read that article and take a look at its contents, shall we? Not just react based on the headline?
Sure looks like this is some Gubmint agency that had its budget cut and wants more of your tax dollars so it can GROW. Rather than get more efficient, they just want $ thrown at the problem.
The other game they are playing is with the numbers. Fugures don't lie but liars figure. For example that said:
Gonorrhea cases nearly doubled in five years, from 27,500 infections in 2011, to 54,000 in 2015.
While that is a true statement, what they don't mention is the actual rate of infection? Population of CA is 38.8 Million in 2014, so 54,000 cases of Gonorrhea infection is a rate of 0. 142% (54,000 / 38,800,000). So one has a 99.858% chance of finding someone who isn't infected. Sure 54,000 is a big number and sounds bad. But it appears properly put into context, it is a drop in the bucket.
But hey, last I checked, Gonorrhea isn't going to kill you. It maybe embarrassing to get and take a trip to a doc to get cured, but it isn't lethal. Seems like these days, with proper medical treatment there is nothing out there that can't be cured or managed.
But hey, if one reads down to the END of the article they find this factoid:
Men who have sex with men accounted for the majority of new gonorrhea and primary and secondary syphilis cases.
Wonder how much that might change everyone's opinion about what is really happening here? So cases of Gonorrhea have doubled in 5 years, but a majority of cases are Gay men? Why then all of the rhetoric about High school kids, etc. See how Gubmint takes facts and uses those to scare people who don't pay attention into dumping more dollars into gubmint programs? Hey, you can be fooled if one wishes, it's your money!
Hey, I know, talk about STDs is VERY emotional for most people. It's like religion: they believe what they believe, can't explain why they believe it, but will fight to the end to avoid ever changing their minds or beliefs.
Cephlapod Love
10-24-16, 15:59
It is weird in some big cities I travel to and read their forums there is a lot more casual vibe on the BB stuff. Was in Orlando last summer and read through their Streetwalker thread, and some of these dudes were barebacking everything in sight and proud of it LOL! To each their own.Yes, if one BBs girls in high risk categories they are taking on a greater risk. Injection drug users, minorities and low social economic class all tend to have high rates of "living with" an STD. So yeah, SWs would be a key category where risk is higher than the general population.
Maybe these guys feel "protected" as transmission rates from women to men is much lower than men to women?
While it seems like an unacceptable risk to me, everyone has a right to manage risk as they wish. Seems like many do it through lack of knowledge or awareness.
FarFarAway
11-06-16, 22:31
I need advice brothers. I had my new baby (just 2 x in the FC) Tuesday afternoon. I have only been with any babies covered, but of course get BBBJs. I traveled w / the SO on Thursday night and somewhat unexpectedly had a long fuck session w / her. Saturday she says she has vaginal pain / irritation. And it's worse today. My mind's racing. Anyone been through this scenario? I have experienced absolutely NO symptoms myself, but is something transmissible asymptomatically? My hope is yeast infection, though I'd have to figure out how to stop that baby - SO transmission. My nightmare is HSV. My reading says its not 100% blocked by rubbers b / c it's a skin / skin thing, not a fluid / fluid thing.
If it does turn out the SO has HSV, I have no choice but to come clean about the baby, right? How much else?
Param Ahmad
11-07-16, 01:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocTkALIGJ78
This YouTube video illustrates why it is important to be careful what you say in a massage parlor.
Cephlapod Love
11-07-16, 13:21
I need advice brothers. I had my new baby (just 2 x in the FC) Tuesday afternoon. I have only been with any babies covered, but of course get BBBJs. I traveled w / the SO on Thursday night and somewhat unexpectedly had a long fuck session w / her. Saturday she says she has vaginal pain / irritation. And it's worse today. My mind's racing. Anyone been through this scenario? I have experienced absolutely NO symptoms myself, but is something transmissible asymptomatically? My hope is yeast infection, though I'd have to figure out how to stop that baby - SO transmission. My nightmare is HSV. My reading says its not 100% blocked by rubbers b / c it's a skin / skin thing, not a fluid / fluid thing.
If it does turn out the SO has HSV, I have no choice but to come clean about the baby, right? How much else?Calm down! LOL! VJs are an fascinating and strange "thing". If you haven't banged the SO in a while a "long session" with her prolly means she is sore! Use to have a GF that lived away and would see her infrequently. When she did visit, we'd have to slow play it until the VJ adjusted. Pretty frustrating when one is worked up so much in the beginning.
But don't jump the gun. Why do you assume the SO caught some STD from you? You sound like you want to get caught. Go get yourself tested for a full panel and then you'll know!
HSV usually takes a couple of weeks to get established and produce "symptoms" and those usually are visible as blisters or sores in or around the vulva or opening to the vagina. Not always, but mostly.
DUDE! Come clean? Give yer FREAKING head a shake! Fist, get yer azz tested for HSV. If you don't have it, and I suspect you would know if you did, then you have a different problem. But why assume she got it from you? Huh? Oh, I know the old male double standard, eh? While I'm out f*cking 20-something the SO is clueless and NEVER would get a 20-some d*ck between her legs for a workout her hubby hasn't given her in years? REALLY?
Take a deep breath. Let things play out and USE YOUR HEAD AND NOT A GUILTY CONSCIENCE!
Cephlapod Love
11-07-16, 13:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocTkALIGJ78
This YouTube video illustrates why it is important to be careful what you say in a massage parlor.Best I could tell, the dude in the video NEVER mentioned money for a sex act, and as such does not appear to have violated any law, The Girl (cop) however, appears to have alluded to sex for money. But hey, then one is into a he said she said. That is why it makes sense to head to known & reviewed AMPs.
If one follows "the rules" at AMPs then one never has to worry about things.
I see a lot of people post they got a BBJ or BBBJ. Aren't why'all afraid of std's or is there a way to tell who's clean or not. Just wondering because CBJ are kind of boring lmao I always cover up but I was wondering about going bare next time just wanted some opinions and advice.
I see a lot of people post they got a BBJ or BBBJ. Aren't why'all afraid of std's or is there a way to tell who's clean or not. Just wondering because CBJ are kind of boring lmao I always cover up but I was wondering about going bare next time just wanted some opinions and advice.Yes, CBJs are boring and of course BBBJs can transmit STDs, not nearly as easily as BBFS though. There is no way that I know of to tell if a woman is safe to go BB with unless she has been tested and hasn't been with anyone since the tests. Good luck with that one. Personally, I have very little interest in a CBJ but that's just me.
OreoCookie
11-24-16, 22:24
I see a lot of people post they got a BBJ or BBBJ. Aren't why'all afraid of std's or is there a way to tell who's clean or not. Just wondering because CBJ are kind of boring lmao I always cover up but I was wondering about going bare next time just wanted some opinions and advice.Unprotected oral sex has far less risks to the person receiving. You're not going to get HIV from a BBBJ. If you're that worried about the small chance of catching a lesser STI, jerk yourself off. And make sure you use generous amounts of antibacterial soap. Funny thing is that your wife is far more likely to give you the clap.
CapeGuyToo
11-25-16, 13:12
I see a lot of people post they got a BBJ or BBBJ. Aren't why'all afraid of std's or is there a way to tell who's clean or not. Just wondering because CBJ are kind of boring lmao I always cover up but I was wondering about going bare next time just wanted some opinions and advice.Just be safe and cover it always kid!
Prometheus77
11-28-16, 18:51
I see a lot of people post they got a BBJ or BBBJ. Aren't why'all afraid of std's or is there a way to tell who's clean or not. Just wondering because CBJ are kind of boring lmao I always cover up but I was wondering about going bare next time just wanted some opinions and advice.There's a level of risk involved, of course. You're not going to get anything life-threatening, but if you're in a situation (say you're married, for example) where you just CAN'T take the risk of accidentally bringing something home with you, then yes, it's probably better to keep everything covered. Obviously that's not nearly as much fun. BBBJ feels much better than CBJ, and BBFS feels much better than CFS. Everyone involved in this hobby (mongers and providers alike) has to make up their own mind as to what level of risk they're comfortable taking, and who they're comfortable taking that risk with.
When I first started out in this I got a few BBBJ's from questionable girls, because I was dumb at the time and figured bbbjs have basically no risk because its so common. I turned out to be fine though. Got tested a few times since then, and that was over 2 years ago I think.
Its probably hard to say how risky it can be. But its proabbly pretty low risk if its a clean looking girl, no hard drugs, marks, how her teeth look, etc.
It always shocked me that there are some people that do BBFS with providers they don't know really well. Now that is risky.
Recently got a nude massage body 2 body, her bottom half touched me a few times on my butt didn't think much of it just curious if there's any std risk in that? I know it sounds dumb but paranoia kicks in sometimes.
Recently got a nude massage body 2 body, her bottom half touched me a few times on my butt didn't think much of it just curious if there's any std risk in that? I know it sounds dumb but paranoia kicks in sometimes.Not judging but you may want to reconsider your taking part of this hobby.
Recently got a nude massage body 2 body, her bottom half touched me a few times on my butt didn't think much of it just curious if there's any std risk in that? I know it sounds dumb but paranoia kicks in sometimes.And I quote.
"IF you have not heard of MRSA (methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus) yet, you will very soon. MRSA (it is generally verbalized as mersa) used to be found only in hospitals. But as a result of 50 years of prescribing penicillin-related antibiotics for infections, the bacteria that cause staph infections have mutated and grown resistant to common antibiotics. Those resistant bacteria, MRSA, have presented themselves in the form of a new "super bug" that has moved quickly into the general public. And it's a super bug that's much more difficult to kill than previous staph bacteria. ".
I occasionally have taken some of the antibiotics neccasary to kill some of these STD's that atre out there but not in high doses they mention so I'm not sure where this came from but I had a nasty case of it on my lower groin from skin contact from, and this is the only place I can think of, fuking a a street walker, body contact. Finally had to go see my PC to clear it up. An immediate shot in the ass of penicillin then high doses of anti biotics for a couple weeks. You think a UTR or chlymidia are nastyConsider this the new "STD". And I continue to have a linger case on my body which is in remission but flairs up once in a while.
So even with that condom on your dick theres still other diseases you can catch.
Ho Hunter 328
12-01-16, 17:04
And I quote.
"IF you have not heard of MRSA (methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus) yet, you will very soon. MRSA (it is generally verbalized as mersa) used to be found only in hospitals. But as a result of 50 years of prescribing penicillin-related antibiotics for infections, the bacteria that cause staph infections have mutated and grown resistant to common antibiotics. Those resistant bacteria, MRSA, have presented themselves in the form of a new "super bug" that has moved quickly into the general public. And it's a super bug that's much more difficult to kill than previous staph bacteria. ".
I occasionally have taken some of the antibiotics neccasary to kill some of these STD's that atre out there but not in high doses they mention so I'm not sure where this came from but I had a nasty case of it on my lower groin from skin contact from, and this is the only place I can think of, fuking a a street walker, body contact. Finally had to go see my PC to clear it up. An immediate shot in the ass of penicillin then high doses of anti biotics for a couple weeks. You think a UTR or chlymidia are nastyConsider this the new "STD". And I continue to have a linger case on my body which is in remission but flairs up once in a while.
So even with that condom on your dick theres still other diseases you can catch.MRSA and VRE (which doesn't get as much publicity for some reason) are very common in the prisons, so if the girl has been to jail there's a good chance she's been exposed to them. Anyone who's ever worked in the medical field has certainly been exposed to them as well. It is possible to carry them for years without ever actually having an infection yourself. Many people are very likely exposed to them daily, but never have any issues. Shower, use antibacterial soap, and you'll probably be fine. Shaving on the day of any sexual encounters can increase your chances of infections. So will brushing your teeth or using mouthwash containing alcohol, if you're engaging in any oral activities.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
MRSA and VRE (which doesn't get as much publicity for some reason) are very common in the prisons, so if the girl has been to jail there's a good chance she's been exposed to them. Anyone who's ever worked in the medical field has certainly been exposed to them as well. It is possible to carry them for years without ever actually having an infection yourself. Many people are very likely exposed to them daily, but never have any issues. Shower, use antibacterial soap, and you'll probably be fine. Shaving on the day of any sexual encounters can increase your chances of infections. So will brushing your teeth or using mouthwash containing alcohol, if you're engaging in any oral activities.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.Everytime I have an encounter I get home wash up and wash again with chlorhexidine gluconate.
Does anyone know if there is any risk of getting HIV from a BBBJ?
BigBlue4523
12-02-16, 15:33
Does anyone know if there is any risk of getting HIV from a BBBJ?Unless blood somehow came into the act there's no meaningful risk from getting a BJ. Def a risk for catching other stuff though.
Knucklebuck
12-03-16, 15:05
MRSA and VRE (which doesn't get as much publicity for some reason) are very common in the prisons, so if the girl has been to jail there's a good chance she's been exposed to them. Anyone who's ever worked in the medical field has certainly been exposed to them as well. It is possible to carry them for years without ever actually having an infection yourself. Many people are very likely exposed to them daily, but never have any issues. Shower, use antibacterial soap, and you'll probably be fine. Shaving on the day of any sexual encounters can increase your chances of infections. So will brushing your teeth or using mouthwash containing alcohol, if you're engaging in any oral activities.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.Have talked to many a ho out of jail that complains of getting "spider bites" while incarcerated (as well as many others.) Pretty sure every case is a staff infection.
JetSweep49
12-07-16, 21:01
I first want to make sure I don't want any names, but more of a "something to keep in mind" type of response. I'm fairly new at this, the last couple of times I've dreamt of providers I dreamt about BB Greek, from girls who have been mentioned on this site. Overall, are most girls clean? Part of me would say yes because they know how to be more wary than some random girl at a club would be. But then the other part is the high volume. I always ask if they're clean and they always respond yes. But who knows if they mean it or not just to make a few bucks you know? What are your thoughts on BB anything?
I first want to make sure I don't want any names, but more of a "something to keep in mind" type of response. I'm fairly new at this, the last couple of times I've dreamt of providers I dreamt about BB Greek, from girls who have been mentioned on this site. Overall, are most girls clean? Part of me would say yes because they know how to be more wary than some random girl at a club would be. But then the other part is the high volume. I always ask if they're clean and they always respond yes. But who knows if they mean it or not just to make a few bucks you know? What are your thoughts on BB anything?I guess it's a sensitive subject around some circles -- I got a swat on the hand from an admin on another thread for asking that very last question a while back, or maybe it was just the way I asked it. Was told it was none of my business what anyone else chooses in that regard. It was then that I realized, although it seems like we're all here for generally the same thing on the surface most level, our motivations are actually all very different. As tempted as I am to write an essay on the subject, I'll just say that although it's very tempting to BB everything when I read some of the hot reviews in which others have done it, the big head ultimately rules me, and I don't do anything uncovered except BBBJ, which still has risks. I also recognize that I am ultimately responsible for myself, my choices, and results of them, no matter what I am offered or what anyone else is doing.
I first want to make sure I don't want any names, but more of a "something to keep in mind" type of response. I'm fairly new at this, the last couple of times I've dreamt of providers I dreamt about BB Greek, from girls who have been mentioned on this site. Overall, are most girls clean? Part of me would say yes because they know how to be more wary than some random girl at a club would be. But then the other part is the high volume. I always ask if they're clean and they always respond yes. But who knows if they mean it or not just to make a few bucks you know? What are your thoughts on BB anything?If you believe a single word a provider tells you. You're already setting yourself up for failure. I personally would never bb with a backpage girl, even if she's telling you she's low volume it's probably not the case. You need to understand one golden concept. You are not special. If she says "I only do this for you". It means she does it with plenty others. If the risk is worth it to you go ahead but a lot of guys like myself stop seeing providers who go no glove on the regular.
JustHereNow
12-08-16, 09:54
I first want to make sure I don't want any names, but more of a "something to keep in mind" type of response. I'm fairly new at this, the last couple of times I've dreamt of providers I dreamt about BB Greek, from girls who have been mentioned on this site. Overall, are most girls clean? Part of me would say yes because they know how to be more wary than some random girl at a club would be. But then the other part is the high volume. I always ask if they're clean and they always respond yes. But who knows if they mean it or not just to make a few bucks you know? What are your thoughts on BB anything?I'd say you might as well play Russian Roulette. Most of the girls doing this has a habit and therefore has no care in the world. They will lie, cheat, steal, whatever is needed to seal the deal and get the money for the next fix. It would be hard to convince me they know more about being clean than a club girl since most just don't care.
FooteRoger
12-08-16, 13:09
If you believe a single word a provider tells you. You're already setting yourself up for failure. I personally would never bb with a backpage girl, even if she's telling you she's low volume it's probably not the case. You need to understand one golden concept. You are not special. If she says "I only do this for you". It means she does it with plenty others. If the risk is worth it to you go ahead but a lot of guys like myself stop seeing providers who go no glove on the regular.Frankly, the epidemiology does not support that bareback sex is particularly dangerous. The risk of pregnancy can, of course, be high. I have the opportunity to read quite a few studies in my course of work. I've posted a rough summary to the following image.
https://postimg.org/image/rsowbglr5/
Most of the figures I present I adapted from a fairly good summary by Dr Constantin (she doesn't prevent the data very clearly):
Primary source: https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/std-statistics/.
The only real risk for lifetime issues from this hobby. Is having to deal with genital warts from HPV and herpes. This is a factor more of the quantity of sex partners and is not because of condom use. Unfortunately, neither of these viruses are particularly well prevented with condom use. Skin on skin contact in the genital area outside of the coverage of the condom is where much of the transmission occurs. The bacteria infections are fairly well prevented with a condom, but they are also easily cured with common antibiotics. HIV and Hepatitus are very, very rarely passed through heterosexual oral or vaginal sex.
Anal sex is another animal altogether. It ALWAYS causes some rupture of small blood vessels in the anus. This is true even if there is no blood visible. The most danger is to the receiver, but there is a much higher incidence of transmission to the giver. HIV and Hepatitis are very fragile viruses. But they flourish in a bloody anus. Blood from vaginal sex is almost always from the uterine lining and poses a much much lower risk to both partners. I would advise against BB anal sex. To each there own though.
Cephlapod Love
12-09-16, 10:51
Frankly, the epidemiology does not support that bareback sex is particularly dangerous. The risk of pregnancy can, of course, be high. I have the opportunity to read quite a few studies in my course of work. I've posted a rough summary to the following image.
https://postimg.org/image/rsowbglr5/
Most of the figures I present I adapted from a fairly good summary by Dr Constantin (she doesn't prevent the data very clearly):
Primary source: https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/std-statistics/.
Anal sex is another animal altogether. It ALWAYS causes some rupture of small blood vessels in the anus. This is true even if there is no blood visible. The most danger is to the receiver, but there is a much higher incidence of transmission to the giver. HIV and Hepatitis are very fragile viruses. But they flourish in a bloody anus. Blood from vaginal sex is almost always from the uterine lining and poses a much much lower risk to both partners. I would advise against BB anal sex. To each there own though.Good stuff there! What this all boils down to is RISK MANAGEMENT! There are things one can do to lower risk, like use a condom every time.
But for the most part humans are pretty bad at evaluating risk and managing it in a rational way. It doesn't help that, faced with an epidemic (HIV), that gubmint went on a scare tactic "public service" mission to scare everyone onto believing BBFS = death sentence. People get that in their heads and it becomes a "belief" like religion and they will never change it regardless of the evidence presented.
As FooteRoger's links point out, the transmission rate from female to male is VERY LOW! That is if the skin on your junk is 100% intact! But if you have a cut, open sore or maybe even raw, chaffed skin the transmission rate increases.
Add that to several other facts:
1) There is nothing out there right now that will kill you, with proper medical treatment.
2) The rate of incidence of "people living with HIV" is generally less than 2% meaning 98% do not have HIV.
Now all of that said, I do agree that BBFS anally is NOT a good idea. The risk of transmission is significantly higher!
Cephlapod Love
12-09-16, 11:01
I guess it's a sensitive subject around some circles -- I got a swat on the hand from an admin on another thread for asking that very last question a while back, or maybe it was just the way I asked it. Was told it was none of my business what anyone else chooses in that regard. It was then that I realized, although it seems like we're all here for generally the same thing on the surface most level, our motivations are actually all very different. As tempted as I am to write an essay on the subject, I'll just say that although it's very tempting to BB everything when I read some of the hot reviews in which others have done it, the big head ultimately rules me, and I don't do anything uncovered except BBBJ, which still has risks. I also recognize that I am ultimately responsible for myself, my choices, and results of them, no matter what I am offered or what anyone else is doing.Hey, perhaps I am reading incorrectly (if so my bad!) but seeing a bit of hurt, so let me add what I know.
YES! If one posts safe sex discussions in the normal threads two things happen:
1) It starts a fire storm of "opinions" and flame wars.
So Admin does NOT want a bunch of arguing clogging up reports on girls, so he set up this place where the discussion can take place. One is free to discuss Safe Sex practices or lack thereof here. No need to hold back on one's essay here!
2) The post gets taken down by the Admin and the poster spanked. I know this for a fact as I have made that mistake and gotten spanked before. I'm still alive!
I applaud you on your resolve to not do something because that is what everyone else is doing. That is a good philosophy to follow. Kudos.
That said, I think one should examine the facts surrounding the issue as to re-evaluate the actual risks involved. If one can be objective, set fear aside and rationally examine the facts, then perhaps one might change their beliefs?
Stay safe!
FooteRoger
12-09-16, 12:36
Frankly, the epidemiology does not support that bareback sex is particularly dangerous. The risk of pregnancy can, of course, be high. I have the opportunity to read quite a few studies in my course of work. I've posted a rough summary to the following image.
https://postimg.org/image/rsowbglr5/
Most of the figures I present I adapted from a fairly good summary by Dr Constantin (she doesn't prevent the data very clearly):
Primary source: https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/std-statistics/.
The only real risk for lifetime issues from this hobby. Is having to deal with genital warts from HPV and herpes. This is a factor more of the quantity of sex partners and is not because of condom use. Unfortunately, neither of these viruses are particularly well prevented with condom use. Skin on skin contact in the genital area outside of the coverage of the condom is where much of the transmission occurs. The bacteria infections are fairly well prevented with a condom, but they are also easily cured with common antibiotics. HIV and Hepatitus are very, very rarely passed through heterosexual oral or vaginal sex.
Anal sex is another animal altogether. It ALWAYS causes some rupture of small blood vessels in the anus. This is true even if there is no blood visible. The most danger is to the receiver, but there is a much higher incidence of transmission to the giver. HIV and Hepatitis are very fragile viruses. But they flourish in a bloody anus. Blood from vaginal sex is almost always from the uterine lining and poses a much much lower risk to both partners. I would advise against BB anal sex. To each there own though.Correction on the Herpes HSV2 no condom transmission rate. Should read. 015% or 1/6700 sex acts.
Trust Lust
01-30-17, 02:42
Don't rule out 2% tincture of iodine for herpes or genital warts. The medical hoopla media only has you believing it won't kill viruses, and it oftentimes kills jock itch when nothing, doctor given, will. Just give it a try, and once the symptoms subside, you can worry yourself sick about hidden demons at work within you. You can get a gallon of this stuff from California Veterinary Supply for a fraction of what it cost at the drugstore if the drug store even sales it anymore. Lugol's iodine can be bought on line and is safe to ingest for antibiotic resistant bacteria. Lugol's doesn't have the methanol base that makes traditional iodine poisonous. I've, nevertheless, used a few drops of traditional iodine per quart of uncertain drinking water without consequence. I've also put this stuff in chicken water along with sulfa to control acute fowl Cholera. All kinds of stuff on the internet for and against Lugol's can be pulled up. The gubmint is scared to death about us finding out about it. BTW, I'm pretty sure I was first to use "gubmint. " Anytime, I'm talking IRS I use Prince Fedgov, but with police interference with docs it's gubmint. The simple fact of the matter is that before penicillin, they gave iodine to people all of the time. At one time it was the gold standard for clap and syphilis. Not being able to get this stuff at the drug store, now, has nothing to do with meth labs. Big Pharma feels threatened. Immigrants from socialized medicine countries, where they have no worthy doctors, are up on this matter and have been kind enough to reintroduce it.
JabberWorky
01-31-17, 23:40
Usually one practices safe sex by using a condom. But, which brand provides the most sensitivity while still protecting against STDs and pregnancy? And what about getting a covered blowjob? Which one is the best to use that provides the greatest pleasure?
John Dough
02-02-17, 18:47
Usually one practices safe sex by using a condom. But, which brand provides the most sensitivity while still protecting against STDs and pregnancy? And what about getting a covered blowjob? Which one is the best to use that provides the greatest pleasure?The best condom for sensation during intercourse is the female condom, but you have to add lots of lube. It allows you to feel friction, whereas the male condoms typically only let you feel pressure.
The best male condoms for sensation are the thin, non-latex ones. The thinnest is the Unique Pull at .015 mm. The Japanese thin condoms like Sagami 001 (actually .018 mm) get good reviews for sensation, but they are too narrow and tight fitting for most American men to wear comfortably. There are also condoms with a loose fitting head that are lubricated on the inside, like the Trojan Double Ecstasy. They give a little bit of friction for added sensation. Some men just add a drop of lube inside the tip of a regular condom to get the same effect. That should work for a BJ.
JabberWorky
02-02-17, 23:18
The best condom for sensation during intercourse is the female condom, but you have to add lots of lube. It allows you to feel friction, whereas the male condoms typically only let you feel pressure.
The best male condoms for sensation are the thin, non-latex ones. The thinnest is the Unique Pull at .015 mm. The Japanese thin condoms like Sagami 001 (actually .018 mm) get good reviews for sensation, but they are too narrow and tight fitting for most American men to wear comfortably. There are also condoms with a loose fitting head that are lubricated on the inside, like the Trojan Double Ecstasy. They give a little bit of friction for added sensation. Some men just add a drop of lube inside the tip of a regular condom to get the same effect. That should work for a BJ.I did find them on line. Funny the Unique Pull only comes in sizes of medium to long and large.
Gambling, & alcohol aren't my only addictions in life. In my last 30 years of mongering and being active I've used condoms for Anal and Vaginal Sex but 15% of the time failed to do so.
I get involved in Oral sex activity very commonly without protection, & I get a blood test every 6 months and to my surprise my test results came out clean and negative for both A blood test and urine test, So my question is this I hate the use of condoms but very well aware you can still catch stuff especially with very nasty Hookers and is the percentage high or no? I talked with my doctor and said HIV is slim but HPV is very common but usually your body will self fight it over time. Am I just lucky? Or does it happen? I carry my condoms at all times but will fail to use them on oral and will use it for vaginal penetration 85% of the time. Any thoughts?
What's a good brand for latex Condoms? I usually get them from my doctor and not familiar with the brands.
Thanks.
KingOfTheBlues
05-28-17, 21:10
Anyone have experience with her and her open sores on her thighs?? Took some antibiotics but I still worried.Hold up are you saying that you saw open sores and proceeded to go ahead away?
FilthyKoala
05-28-17, 23:10
Hold up are you saying that you saw open sores and proceeded to go ahead away?Haha Gringo's post made you consider retirement.
Anyone have experience with her and her open sores on her thighs?? Took some antibiotics but I still worried.Thinking only with your little head I see.
Anyone have experience with her and her open sores on her thighs?? Took some antibiotics but I still worried.Failed to even notice that last statement.
"Took some antibiotics"?
What did you take? Did you TAKE ENOUGH? Of the RIGHT KIND?
Overprescribing & self-prescribing antibiotics, is the reason WHY we have resistant strains of staph out there now (MRSA / VRSA).
My dermatologist tells me pretty much everything out there now, are resistant strains of staph.
That's why these chicks are walking infection factories. STD's aside, overdoses aside. These girls walking around with huge abscesses, that won't go to the ER and get treated (and don't take their antibiotics if they do) are time bombs. The reason why KC walks around with a limp, is an infection that went right down to the bone. That's why these girls are dying of heart failure, or ending up with heart valve replacements. They pick, they touch, they spread.
All we need is for one of them to catch a flesh eating bacteria, and a bunch of us are going to end up as eunuchs.
I'm just finishing dealing with a prostatitis and an infection of the testicle (epididymitis, usually caused by chlamydia or some other bacteria). Probably monger-related, and I do cover up to fuck EVERY TIME.
Sorry for the Public Service Message. Just that these girls don't hardly give a shit about their OWN HEALTH, they damn sure don't care about ours.
Rick.
Gringo2123
05-29-17, 10:42
I got the bbj and was going to do f. S. if you read my post before. Said jr said no way and didn't proceed but I had already received bbj.
Hold up are you saying that you saw open sores and proceeded to go ahead away?.
FilthyKoala
05-29-17, 10:51
Failed to even notice that last statement.
"Took some antibiotics"?
What did you take? Did you TAKE ENOUGH? Of the RIGHT KIND?
Overprescribing & self-prescribing antibiotics, is the reason WHY we have resistant strains of staph out there now (MRSA / VRSA).
My dermatologist tells me pretty much everything out there now, are resistant strains of staph.
That's why these chicks are walking infection factories. STD's aside, overdoses aside. These girls walking around with huge abscesses, that won't go to the ER and get treated (and don't take their antibiotics if they do) are time bombs. The reason why KC walks around with a limp, is an infection that went right down to the bone. That's why these girls are dying of heart failure, or ending up with heart valve replacements. They pick, they touch, they spread.
All we need is for one of them to catch a flesh eating bacteria, and a bunch of us are going to end up as eunuchs.
I'm just finishing dealing with a prostatitis and an infection of the testicle (epididymitis, usually caused by chlamydia or some other bacteria). Probably monger-related, and I do cover up to fuck EVERY TIME.
Sorry for the Public Service Message. Just that these girls don't hardly give a shit about their OWN HEALTH, they damn sure don't care about ours.
Rick.This is all really true, we got to remember who were dealing with here and trusting them to take care of themselves is asking a lot. Between LEO, STD's, MRSA, or worse you got to pick and choose and ask if its worth it sometime.
PompanoGuy
05-29-17, 14:44
Failed to even notice that last statement.
"Took some antibiotics"?
What did you take? Did you TAKE ENOUGH? Of the RIGHT KIND?
Overprescribing & self-prescribing antibiotics, is the reason WHY we have resistant strains of staph out there now (MRSA / VRSA).
My dermatologist tells me pretty much everything out there now, are resistant strains of staph.
That's why these chicks are walking infection factories. STD's aside, overdoses aside. These girls walking around with huge abscesses, that won't go to the ER and get treated (and don't take their antibiotics if they do) are time bombs. The reason why KC walks around with a limp, is an infection that went right down to the bone. That's why these girls are dying of heart failure, or ending up with heart valve replacements. They pick, they touch, they spread.
All we need is for one of them to catch a flesh eating bacteria, and a bunch of us are going to end up as eunuchs.
I'm just finishing dealing with a prostatitis and an infection of the testicle (epididymitis, usually caused by chlamydia or some other bacteria). Probably monger-related, and I do cover up to fuck EVERY TIME.
Sorry for the Public Service Message. Just that these girls don't hardly give a shit about their OWN HEALTH, they damn sure don't care about ours.
Rick.I've got to agree here. I always cover for f / s no matter who the girl is.
Last month there was a post here about hiv infection odds. They give odds of getting aids in the US and they give much different odds for other countries. Let's face it, the ghetto girls we're dealing with are walking infections and we're probably closer to the risks with sub Saharan Africa than we are with suburban San Francisco. Does anyone really think that the diagnosed girls in the area are taking their meds on a regular basis? How many have not been in for testing?
In the first 12 weeks after contracting HIV, the infectiousness rate increases by 26 times. Add on top of that a secondary infection like an STD increases the odds by another 8 percent. Suddenly, the odds of contracting HIV and other diseases increase rapidly and those numbers are not that slim. I've done BBFS too many times, but I'm covering up for my remaining years.
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