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General Reports.

Tsboy69
02-09-06, 06:59
Stopped off at WW on my way South today. Had been visiting St. m's the past few times with mixed results at best. Took me a few minutes to figure out how to get over the WW road w/ all the construction.

Finally got there and paid my .50 entry - took a self shower, while walking by the girls room, saw a young pretty one snoozing.

The knock on my door brought Sophie. A stocky, big tittied, thick, 50+ woman. I never have had the nerve to ask for someone else, so hoped that I would be surprised.

The massage was probably the best I have ever had in Oxnard. She took her time and was very thourough. Upon the flip, decent and slow CBJ, then two positions and I forced myself to be done. It wasn't pretty - neither her face or the screw..tipped .6 and got out of there.

She was a nice person, and the massage was excellent, but her age, face, body, and FS left alot to be desired.

The mama while I was leaving told me to come back soon, 5 girls working now (although Sophie said there are three).

Happy hunting

Lulu Pussy
05-02-06, 22:01
Stopped off at the OS in the mini-mall. Had heard reports that BB was available. ********* said positive things about a couple girls there, but, unfortunately, they weren't available today. Saw Sophia, 25, bit chubby, nice real C sized tits, cute enough face, nice attitude.

Unfortunately, nothing BB. Got all the usual fs stuff, but just can't make my nut in plastic wrap. Finish on her tits with a HJ.

A nickle for the room and 8 cents for the service. OK time, wouldn't mind trying a couple other girls there.

Tsboy69
05-04-06, 05:40
Stopped by last week looking for something new.

Went in the back and was greeted by a cherry mama - paid $40 and took a self-shower. Usually you don't see anyone around, but a very attractive woman caught my eye as she went into the waiting room.

Waited a few and a pleasant, but over 50 YO came in. Would of been pretty around 20 years ago, but just old now. For the 1st time, I had the nerve to ask for the other younger woman. She did not seem to mind and told me to wait a moment.

I sat there feeling guilty, until the young one came in. Now keep in mind, young was in her late 20's or early 30's. I don't remember her name, but she was the prettiest provider I have seen in Oxnard every. Around 5'4". Good sized B's-C's - slim build with slim hips. As usual for Korean women, but much of a butt.

Started with chit-chat - lives in Ktown in LA, been working a few months, you handsome, blah blah blah. The massage was so-so, usual service. CBJ and CFS - a few different positions - she did not display any particular passion - just layed there.

Paid $40 + $70. No rush, cleaned me up and helped me dress. I was hoping for better service, but at least had a provider younger than me.

Snail Trail
05-08-06, 15:40
Dear Mongers,

I have been going here to some time now because they give the best "real" massage. It's only $65 for an hour, but they expect $50 tip. I have seen all 6 providers here, and they are all from Mainland China. J works weekdays and Sunday, and often acts as the receptionist. One time I asked if she does massages and she said yes, so I took her on. Took a shower, laid on a real massage table, and they even had a small plasma screen with some Asian Soap Opera playing (no sound). Massage was great, J let me feel her up as she gave me a handshake.

I have also seen V, who only works from Thurs to Sun. V didn't mind that I was grabbing her leg and thigh, and asked if I would take care of her. I put the $50 tip on the table and she looked at me and smiled like there was more that could come out of it. I gave the two fisted thrust to signify fs, but she said "not this time". I put another $50 and she undressed. She had on a girdle that made her breasts explode from the top and took off her panties to let me DATY as she stroked my privates. I told her to CBJ and offered a condom, but she said I was "too oily" and finished me with her hand.

Needless to say, I was hooked, so the next time I was in town, I went to go see her again. I know that $100 for DATY is way too steep, especially with the deals you can get at the 'Nard, but V letting me DATY was more than I had gotten from any other provider there. I once had L, and she let me suck on her breasts a little (she had very perky nipples), so this time when V told me to turn over, I did and as she grabbed my unit, I shyed away and told her that she didn't have to, that I enjoy just coming to see her. She smiled, asked if I had a condom, took it a reversed cowgirl. Afterwards, she wanted $150, but we settled on $120, and I told her I would be back.

I started going back to the 'Nard because of the better pricing, and yes, $65 for and hour and $120 tip is super steep, but considering that nobody else here has the the story I just noted, it was worth the extra money (besides, it came from my tax return).

Snail Trail
05-08-06, 16:01
Hello Fellow Mongers,

Ah, it feels good to share the wealth with you all once again. I am giving you my reports as I am taking a break from the AMP scene as there have been some significant changes/additions to my personal life. Nonetheless, I feel it my duty to give back to those who have paved the way for my pleasureable adventures in AMP land:

GT- This is the one next to a cell phone dealer in a strip mall in El Rio. P P is an older woman in her late 40's who gives a great massage and is very enthusiastic. She only works on weekends. During the week they go down to two ladies, neither of whom seem to disappoint. One woman with wavy hair and a mole on her nose, and the other with a little gut and straight black hair. $60 got me 45 minutes and I never tipped more than $80 for a session. I only tipped $80 for sessions that included "hot towel massages." I know some of you like the A-1 table shower, but the hot towel massage at GT is really good too! It's a bit of a hard massage (they always walk on my back), but I always leave GT feeling sensational after some FS, some cleaning off, and a hot towel massage to end the session.

A-1
Yes, they have latina providers, as J, who works only on Wednesday nights is really nice. She has a booty to wrestle with, a little pouch, some fakies, and she is studying to be a make-up artist, so her face always looks nicely made up. I have also had A and R, who only work weekends. One thing I didn't like about them is that they all wanted to negotiate payment first and always tried to high ball you for a c-note. I told them $80 is all I have, and have been able to get away with it, and have even lowered tips down to $60. J lets you suck on her nubs, R has let me DATY with Saran Wrap, and A just mounts you and goes 100 mph. I have also had a session with Candi, who is a bit short, height wise and her bow cut doesn't flatter me, but at least she makes up for it with her enthusiasm.

OAcc- On Saviers near Bard. I used to see June there, she was only 19-21 and thin as a rail, but a pretty face. I went back for the first time in years a few months back and saw CoCo there. Late 40's, kinda thick, but not obese, and some huge naturals that had long nipples and small areolas. CoCo gave a nice sensual massage that got me hard before I turned over. She CBJ's, and tickled my goose with her tongue. We did cowgirl, missionary, and I was going to doggie her, but she smelled like unwiped ass and it was kinda overwhelming, so I let her finish me cowgirl. Despite the malodorous situation, the session was nice and varied, and at only a $60 tip, very reasonable.

Mission - I have seen the posts here about other girls, but every time I go there I get Suni/Sony, and I can't stand her! She keeps giggling, and talking to me in a foreign language, and I have to remind her that I only speak English! She is never enthusiastic about her work, gives a weak massage, and the last time I went, I didn't let her finish me, just opted to get up, get dressed and then drove to OAcc for my session with CoCo that I described above. I do want to mention that I have never been to Mission on a weekday in a while, but there used to be an older woman (late 40's) named Moon who worked there. I like how her tongue ran circles on my stool cutter, and even got her to agrees for a benjamin to take one for the Greeks! On my most recent visit, I asked for Moon, and mamasan looked at me funny, then sent Suni in...nice....

Marvelous88
05-11-06, 18:11
I was passing through Oxnard two weeks ago and had a terrific time at O Spa on Savier. Highly recommend the young and very sweet Soonie if you are in the area.

My thanks fellows for your reports that got me there - wish we had something more like that down in Orange County.

I'll be back up that way in the next few weeks and will repeat - unless domeone has suggestions for even better.

Take it easy.

Marvelous

Lulu Pussy
05-13-06, 23:00
Hit one of the yet unnamed parlors recommomended by one of the members. Saw Kay there. CBJ, 69, mish and more mish (she didn't seem open to much else). Finished with a handshake. OK time, nothing great.

If interested where she works, SENIOR members can pm me.

Pixmxr
05-15-06, 12:56
Any 411 on the FTP Massage next to the circl 'K'. I just noticed them and they seem nice and new.

Big Gip
05-15-06, 21:16
Any 411 on the FTP Massage next to the circl 'K'. I just noticed them and they seem nice and new.

Talking about the one next to Arbie's in Ventura? I noticed that one too the other day. Anyone have any info?

Hobby knob
05-15-06, 22:57
Talking about the one next to Arbie's in Ventura? I noticed that one too the other day. Anyone have any info?

THere was a report on it in the Ventura thread.

Keybored 56
05-16-06, 17:55
Experienced a gal named Sherri here today as Tanya was off. Not a great substitute. Decent FS but nothing to write home about.

Hobby knob
05-17-06, 02:26
Experienced a gal named Sherri here today as Tanya was off. Not a great substitute. Decent FS but nothing to write home about.
Yeah I think she is off MOn and Tues. Maybe even wed.

BTW, hope you went to O Spa not O Acc.

Big Gip
05-20-06, 11:06
Since we're on the topic of the good ol' OSpa ... Does Cherry still work there? What days?

Phillippe
05-20-06, 15:45
I'm looking for a girl who is relatively tight. Lately I've been having problems getting off when wearing protection, and tightness seems to help out alot. Otherwise I typically have to go back to BJ to finish

Can anyone give a recomendation for someone local? PM me and we'll swap info.

Philippe

Phillippe
05-22-06, 05:02
I recently read a story about an AMP bust, I think in LA. The masseuse was busted when they made an offer to perform extras for cash. I just had a thought:

I get a massage: Not illegal.

I then ask for a HJ, which in itself is an adult act that is not illegal.

EVEN if I then give a certain tip, this does not then make the former act illegal, because the masseuse has absolutely no control over whether or how much I choose to tip. And occasionally people DO just walk out without tipping at all, and there's nothing the masseuse can do.

So this is why most places are pretty much immune to busts. Maybe this is why the AMP system is set up the way it is. Maybe this explains why most of the busts are immigration busts, etc.

A1 however is setting themselves up by negotiating money in advance.

But there is another possible way places might get busted, with a sort of conspiracy charge. A case would have to be made where there is a pattern and a known agreement for money for services. But the only way this case can be made is if a cop actually has sex at least once or twice and exchange money once or twice, to establish a pattern. But in order to do this, a cop will actually have to have sex. But heck, it could happen, because as I just pointed out, a person (even a cop) getting a HJ, in itself, is not necessarilly illegal. Interesting.

Phillipe

HawkFromTX
05-24-06, 03:22
So tonight I am sitting here in the hotel in Ventura trying to decide what to do and decide to get a massage. So I look through the ads in a local paper and find one for an A1 time. I head out and am there in about fifteen minutes. The mamasan is polite and takes my credit card without fuss. She shows me to a room and informs me they have both Latina and Asian workers, but leaves before I can tell her a preference. Two minutes later a hell of a hot Latina girl walks in. She is about 5’7” with 34 D’s and sexy as all get out. I introduce myself and she tells me her name, “J”, and then I strip down and lay on the table. She asked if I had been there before and I say no. I had been to the Wagon Wheel, never there. She removed her dress and did a slow, sensual rub down. While she rubbing my back my hands begin to roam and before long I am rubbing her backside. Soon she moves to a CBJ to place the protection and then it is mish city followed by a side move and then doggy. I was so done in about 25 minutes. She cleaned me pretty well then pointed me to the shower to clean up. I thought we were done so when I returned to the room I started getting dressed. She comes in and asks if I would like her to finish the rub down. Not be one to cause problems I of course agreed and laid back on the table, where she did a very nice job of relaxing me, again. It was a very tight situation there and she was very generous with allowing touching and nibbling on the nips. All in all I had a very nice time and would definitely return the next time I am in town.

She told me she only works on Tuesdays and likes it that way, as she is a makeup artist in training and needs time to do other stuff. There was a door fee .5 for 30 min or .8 for hour then I tipped another .8. Well worth it I think

FedEx
05-24-06, 12:49
Phillippe - you have no idea how far you are from the truth...

Forgive me for taking the space, but the following long report was posted in the "General Topics" area by Three X just 9 days ago. Please read and wise up (it is an article written by Norma Jean Almodovar, Executive Director, COYOTE LA from the standpoint of the providers:

Three X
Senior Member
Reports: 339 Law Enforcement in California (Providers Read)

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NOTE : IF YOU LIVE AND WORK IN A STATE OTHER THAN CALIFORNIA, THE LAWS IN YOUR STATE MAY BE DIFFERENT. USE THIS INFORMATION AS A REFERENCE GUIDE ONLY- CHECK OUT THE LAWS THROUGH A LAW LIBRARY OR WITH A CRIMINAL LAWYER WHERE YOU LIVE. SENTENCES FOR PANDERING, PIMPING AND PROSTITUTION ALSO VARY STATE TO STATE. YOU CAN PURCHASE A COPY OF YOUR STATE'S PENAL CODE FROM ANY LEGAL BOOKSTORE. READ FOR ALL REFERENCES TO THE SEX WORK YOU ENGAGE IN AND MEMORIZE THE LAWS! YOUR BEST DEFENSE IS KNOWLEDGE! DON'T LET THEM GET YOU UNAWARE! ****Warning - the information in this page is the opinion of the author and is not intended to take the place of legal advice - and if you are arrested, you should seek the services of a qualified attorney in your state.**** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Norma Jean Almodovar, Executive Director, COYOTE LA I know what you're thinking. You only do massage therapy, domination, act in porn movies, work for a licensed escort service or do nude dancing. How could they arrest you for prostitution? Isn't a prostitute that poor ignorant drug addict who stands on the streets and sells her body for a few bucks to anyone who comes along? What you were doing was not illegal, was it? And besides, the cop who arrested you. . . he entrapped you, and that's illegal, isn't it? If you live in California, entrapment for prostitution is legal (even though it should be unconstitutional, it has not been ruled against because no one has been able to get a case heard in a high court of appeals), thanks to liberal democrats who desire to protect us poor stupid women from being exploited. And, in California, prostitution is so vaguely defined that it probably includes behavior that you thought was acceptable and legal. You probably thought that if you didn't have sexual intercourse or give a "blow job" you were not committing prostitution. Or, you thought that if you were doing these things in front of a camera, you were protected - just exercising your first amendment rights. And if you thought that you weren't breaking the law because you didn't take money for the sex act, but you took other consideration instead, you are wrong. Unfortunately, if you get arrested, and if you plead guilty or are convicted, you may end up with a prostitution record which will brand you as a prostitute forever. Such a record will prevent you from being able to do certain things, so it is important not to plead guilty or get a conviction if at all possible. Not to mention a conviction for prostitution carries a mandatory jail sentence on the first offense, and sometimes up to a year on the second offense. * Know what your rights are and know the law!!!!! The police expect you to be ignorant of your rights and of the law - so they often get away with doing things to you that are illegal. By knowing what the law is and what your rights are, you can protect yourself from police abuse. * Know a good attorney and a bail bonds person who will be there for you if you get arrested - not every bail bonds company will bail out women or men who have been arrested on prostitution charges. They will bail out men who have been accused of beating their wives, or who have committed armed robbery, but not men or women who have been charged with being exploited for money! * Fight the law - do not plead guilty - take your case to trial - make them work to put you in jail. The law is wrong and should be fought. If we all fight our cases, instead of giving in, the courts would be more overcrowded than ever, and the police would have to stop arresting us. * Giving the names of your friends or your clients to the police will not help you get a lesser sentence. The police will tell you that if you cooperate with them, they can help you with the judge- but the reality is that they can't do anything at all, so if you turn in your friends or your clients, you do so for nothing, and you have lost your friend. * After your first arrest, the likelihood of your getting arrested again within the next few weeks or months (until your case has been resolved) increases 90 percent more than before you were arrested the first time. The reason for this is simply because the police want to keep you from pleading not guilty in court. If you have never been arrested before, and go before a judge, you may be able to convince him or her that your arrest was a mistake- but, if you get arrested again right away, before your case has been settled, you will have a more difficult time convincing a judge or city attorney that you really are not a prostitute and should not get the mandatory jail sentence. * Always exercise extreme caution when speaking to anyone, including those you know well. If they suddenly begin asking questions that involve money or sex - questions that they already know the answers to - bells should go off in your head. Tell him, "Why whatever do you mean?" Don't give the cops ammunition to use against you. Always talk to your clients (on the phone and in person) as though your conversation was being tape recorded and will be played in front of a jury. Don't say anything that will incriminate you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS: * IF NO MONEY CHANGES HANDS, I HAVE NOT BROKEN THE LAW. The law only requires that you "manifest an acceptance of the offer" and does not say that you take the money. All you have to do to get arrested is to agree (by smiling or nodding your head) to touch his buttocks or genitals (through massage or dominance) or to let him touch yours, and agree to take a fee for it - in cash, or other consideration.* The crime of prostitution is all a word game- based on getting a 'solicitation' rather than an actual act out of a suspect. Anything further, such as getting you to get undressed or taking the money they offer, is just 'icing' on their legal case against you. * I ONLY DANCE NUDE AND MASTURBATE MYSELF. IS THAT PROSTITUTION? The law says prostitution is "a lewd act for money or other consideration," which is "the touching of breast, buttocks or genitals for the purpose of sexual gratification or arousal." (later on we will explain this further.) Notice that it doesn't say who touches whose breast, buttocks or genitals in order for it to be lewd conduct. The vagueness of the law allows the act of masturbation to be included in the definition of prostitution if the other person (who is paying) becomes aroused or achieves sexual gratification while watching you and that is what they are paying for. So, whether you masturbate yourself, or, if you have a girl-girl show where you touch the breasts, buttocks or genitals of a third party, if the individual who is paying you gets aroused, etc. you have broken the law. * IF I DON'T SEE ANY NEW PEOPLE, I AM OKAY. We know from many cases that the police have followed clients after they leave the house of the sex worker they see, and threaten to tell his boss or his family if he doesn't cooperate with them and help the police arrest you. So, even if the person that you see is an old friend, be careful if he starts to ask you questions about money or sex that you know he already knows. Also, if he tells you that he has a friend that would like to see you, and he has never done that before, approach the situation with extreme caution. It may be fine- but it also may be a set up. As the saying goes- it is better to be safe than sorry! * IF I DON'T TALK ABOUT SEX, BUT HE DOES, I WON'T GET INTO TROUBLE. Wrong. The new laws in California allow the police officer to lure you with talk of sex for money or other consideration and then arrest you if you agree to do it. You don't have to say anything about sex or money to get arrested. It can be said that you "agree" to do something when you merely nod your head or even smile at him when he suggests that you perform an act of sex for money. * IF HE ASKS ABOUT A CERTAIN SEX ACT & I SAY NO, CAN I STILL GET ARRESTED? Yes. As ridiculous as it seems, if the undercover cop asks you about a specific sex act (such as "greek") and you say "no" to that specific act, you can still be arrested because it implies that you are willing to do other acts of sex. If someone begins to ask too many specific questions, you should immediately tell him that sex for money is illegal, and he should stop trying to get you to break the law. Whenever a man needs to keep talking about what he will get for his money, it should make you think something is wrong. (more info next paragraph) * AS LONG AS I SAY "NO" WHEN HE ASKS ME ABOUT SEX AND MONEY, I WON'T GET ARRESTED, RIGHT? You would think so, but the fact is, they can manipulate the conversation to the point that they say you are agreeing to an act of sex even if you say "no" to a specific question. Here's how it can happen. There was a woman who was arrested for prostitution about two years ago, even though she had told the undercover cop "no" when he asked her if she did "Greek" (a slang term for anal sex). The reasoning he used was as follows. . . when he arrived at her home, she was vague about what services he would receive for his money. She told him that he would have a good time. When he continued to press her for more specific information, she continued to be evasive. He then asked her if she did "Greek," to which she replied "no." She was then arrested, because it was implied that she would do other sexual things to him even if she would not do one specific thing. A good lawyer should get the case dismissed, but you can still be arrested and have to spend money to defend yourself, so insist that you do not do anything sexual, especially if he keeps asking. A real client knows what he will receive and doesn't need to play word games with you. * THE POLICE NEED A SEARCH WARRANT TO COME INTO MY HOME AND ARREST ME IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT? No, if they suspect you of breaking the law, they can set you up through a sting operation, and, if you violate the law, they can then search your place and take you into custody. In the past, the police have taken computers,video equipment, cameras and other electronic equipment, as well as bondage equipment as 'evidence.' If they take something with them for whatever reason, they are supposed to give you a property receipt listing whatever property they confiscate, but they frequently do not, which means that you can kiss whatever they took goodbye. Even if they do give you a property receipt, there is no guarantee that your property will be returned. Often they will tell you it is needed for the case against you, even if it is clear that it has no bearing on your case, and the police will continue to keep it indefinitely, or until it is "lost" in the property room. Either way, the odds are against your ever seeing it again, nevertheless, be sure to make a record of what they take and give it to your lawyer. If you have a homeowners insurance policy, you might be able to make a claim and get reimbursed for your losses. * A POLICE OFFICER HAS TO TELL ME HE IS A COP IF I ASK HIM, RIGHT? NO, NO, NO! Cops have complete immunity to lie to you - because if that is all we had to do to protect ourselves, cops would never make any arrests! Furthermore, in some states he can legally get undressed and actually have sex with you and still arrest you! In other states where it is not legal for him to have sex with you first, but he does anyway, when he gets on the witness stand, he will lie and the judge and jury will believe him, not you! It isn't fair, but that's the way things are. So, don't think you are safe from arrest just because he has sex with you. If he does get undressed or has sex with you, be sure to write down the physical description of his private parts - the size of his penis, if his body is really hairy or smooth, or if he has any scars or tattoos, and give a copy of your notes to your attorney and hide the original somewhere safe. *THE POLICE CAN'T LEGALLY TAPE RECORD OUR CONVERSATIONS AND USE THEM IN COURT, CAN THEY? Ask Heidi Fleiss about that! Yes, they can, and often will tape record and video tape you when they call you or when you are with them at your house or in their hotel room and then use the tapes against you in court. The only one who doesn't get to use tape recordings of conversations in court, is you. Of course, if you do make an audio or video tape recording of the event which directly conflicts with the police version of the situation, you should notify your lawyer that such a tape exists, and then make copies of it. Do not give your only copy to anyone, even a lawyer, as such copies have been known to conveniently disappear. There are unscrupulous lawyers who are willing to tamper with the evidence and help the police, so that the police will give them consideration on a "more important case." Also, there are lawyers who use drugs themselves, and the cops know about it, so they can easily "persuade" the lawyer to assist them against you. To them, you are just a '*****,' and whatever happens to you is not really important to them. (for more information, see Book One on police entrapment and wiretapping) * AFTER I HAVE BEEN ARRESTED- CAN THE POLICE COME INTO MY HOME WHEN I AM JUST WITH FRIENDS? No - not until you are on probation. They need probable cause to enter your home, and just being with friends is not against the law. They can't just come in and harass you. If they do, you can sue them. *If you accept probation as your sentence - you have lost all your rights for the time being - which means that the police don't need an excuse to harass you and accuse you of violating your probation. If you even jay-walk, that constitutes a violation of your probation and you can go to jail for the entire length of your probation sentence. Let's say the maximum time for the first offense for prostitution is 45 days in jail, but if you accept probation and you get 3 years probation, then if you violate your probation - you can go to jail for three years, not 45 days. When you are on probation, the police can enter your home without a search warrant and stop you in a car for no reason. If you are visiting a friend's house, the police can enter your friend's house without a search warrant too, so if they have drugs or other illegal possessions, you can be charged with violating your probation just for being there. So, if you decide to plead guilty and not take a jury trial, you will not get the opportunity again to tell anyone your side of the story. If you are charged with a violation of your probation, you don't get a trial - you just go to jail. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "SO, WHAT IS 'PROSTITUTION' ANYWAY?" In California, it is a misdemeanor, defined as it is 'any lewd act for money or other consideration.' "Lewd'' is defined as the touching of male genitalia and buttocks and female genitalia, breasts and buttocks for the purpose of sexual gratification or arousal . That means that just touching your breasts, buttocks or genitals and he gets aroused- and he is giving you money or other consideration, you have technically broken the law. The law doesn't say that you have to touch his body or he has to touch yours in order for it to be illegal. As for what "other consideration" is... the courts in California said that if someone "mows your lawn" that can be "other consideration." A few years ago, California passed a law that amended the penal code to allow a police officer to legally entrap a person suspected of prostitution. We call the new law a 'use a smile, go to prison' law, because the law says, "A person agrees to engage in an act of prostitution when, with specific intent to so engage, he or she manifests an acceptance of an offer or solicitation to so engage, regardless of whether the offer or solicitation was made by a person who also possessed the specific intent to engage in prostitution." In other words, no longer are words are necessary to commit this verbal crime.....facial expressions (smiling, winking) or body gestures will do! So, if the other person says "will you do this or that (that's sexual) to me" and offers you money or other consideration, you don't have to say anything at all to get arrested. And if that wasn't bad enough, in 1996, another new law, passed by a liberal democrat (Richard Katz), allows the police to arrest you for merely possessing the intent to commit prostitution!*(see full description of this law in BAD LAWS - CALIFORNIA.) Being arrested on a charge of prostitution carries a mandatory sentence on the first offense. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *"WHAT IS 'PANDERING'?" Pandering, a felony, is defined as merely 'encouraging a person.....by schemes, devices and promises.....to commit an act of prostitution.' It has a mandatory prison term of three, four or six years on the first offense, with no prior convictions. No distinction is made between coercive, juvenile prostitution and non-coercive adult prostitution. Pandering can be the act of two prostitutes who work together, who simply exchange clients, or arrange a 'double date' with a client. Giving out the phone number of one prostitute to a potential client (or undercover vice officer) is sufficient to be charged with pandering. So, if you help your friend find clients, even if she asks you to, and even if you don't take a cut, you are committing a felony and must go to prison for three to six years if you are convicted of the charge. If you take any money from her for arranging the date, that is another crime- also a felony, called "pimping." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "WHAT IS PIMPING'?" Living off the earnings of a prostitute, whether in full or in part. This law also carries a mandatory prison term of three to six years on the first offense. It is common practice for women who work together to take a percentage of the money for the date they arrange for their friend. The police know this and use the law against us as a way to make us cooperate with them. When we don't want to cooperate with them, the law is often applied to, or is threatened to be applied to, a prostitute's landlord, in attempts to get the landlord to evict the prostitute from his/her apartment. In some cases, it is also used against a prostitute's mother or father, brothers and sisters, when it can be proved that the prostitute contributes any money to them. Legally, a 'pimp' need not be a man with a string of girls, who drives a 'pimpmobile' and wears gaudy, flashy clothing, the man that the public sees as forcing young women onto drugs and into a life of prostitution. A pimp can be the bank, the grocery store; anyone who takes money from a prostitute ... from her earnings as a prostitute, is legally 'guilty' of pimping. This law was originally intended to protect the prostitute, because often the prostitute was perceived as a victim of someone who would take all of her money and leave her destitute. As with most 'protectionist' legislation, it is more often used against the 'victim' than against those who would victimize her. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP, I'VE BEEN ARRESTED! Okay, so, you have been arrested. You are in a state of shock, and are angry that it happened to you. Believe me, whatever you are going through, some one else has been through it before. Here are some tips to help you get through your experience, which you need to do for your protection, as well as to have a good defense available when you go to court. (these tips are also good to keep in mind if you have not been arrested yet- so you remember what to do if it happens to you.) * Write down all the events that led up to your arrest. When did the undercover cop call you, what did he say on the telephone, what did he say when he arrived? What was he wearing- did he get undressed and if so, what was this size of his penis, etc. Was his penis erect when he got undressed? How about when you got undressed? Did he have any tattoos, or other unusual identifying marks on his body that will prove to a jury that the cop was fully undressed before he arrested you? Did he let you give him a massage before he arrested you? For how long? Did he make you give him oral sex or have intercourse with you? How many other cops were involved in arresting you? If the first officer allowed you to get undressed, when the other cops arrived, did they see you naked before they allowed you to get dressed? Did they take pictures of you in your underwear or while you were naked? Did they take anything from your house or apartment, and if so, did they give you a property receipt for it? Was everything they took listed properly on the receipt? Did they say why they needed to take anything from your apartment or go through your purse? Be sure they correctly list the amount of money you have in your purse, or you can kiss it goodbye. If you are missing anything when you return to you home after you have been released from jail on bail, be sure to check every room incase they moved it somewhere else. If it is not anywhere, file a theft report as soon as possible, and give a copy of the report to your attorney. These are things that are important to remember if you do get to go to trial. So, write them down as soon as possible before you forget them. * When seeking a lawyer, here are some things to think about. If you decide to go with a public defender, which you may want to do if you have no money, remember that they are being paid by the same people who are prosecuting you- and for many of them, it is just a game. Many public defenders are so over worked with cases, they just want you to plead guilty and take the mandatory jail time. To them, having you go to jail for 45 days is no big deal- after all, they might be defending someone accused of murder and the sentence for that is much more serious than a mere 45 days. So, even though it is your freedom at stake and going to jail for even one day seems like the end of the world to you, they are not necessarily going to be sympathetic, so keep that in mind. If you tell them that you want to fight your case, they will probably tell you that you haven't got a chance of winning and tell you that you should plead guilty to save them some time. You might get lucky and get a public defender who believes that the law is wrong, and decides to help you fight it, but don't count on it. You get what you pay for. Let's say that you decide to hire an attorney that isn't a public defender. How do you know who is a good one and who is not? You need to find someone who is (a) either experienced in handling prostitution cases and knows the law and the system, or, (b) someone who is cause oriented and thinks the prostitution laws are wrong and will fight tooth and nail to defend you. Yes, this might cost you money- unfortunately, that's the price of choosing to engage in behavior that is outside the "acceptable" norm. If you haven't been arrested yet, you may want to sock away some money to pay for a lawyer incase you do get arrested. It is well worth taking the time and money to speak to an attorney before you get arrested and know that you have someone you can call on the minute you are sitting in the local police station being booked. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ARRESTED YET, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT? No matter what I tell you, you will never be prepared for it when it happens. Being arrested is a traumatic and humiliating experience that can leave you in shock. If you are arrested in your own home, you might feel much like a rape victim does and be afraid to be left alone or feel like you have to move away. You will probably not feel safe in your own place for a while. If the police have broken down your door to enter your home, you will probably experience fear of a reentry attack. There is little to do for such a feeling except to let time pass- and the feeling will eventually go away. You can seek therapy for your trauma, but it is important that you find a therapist or counselor who will not judge you for your profession and try to add guilt to the mixture of unstable emotions. You should ask some of your peers if they know of a therapist who will understand your situation and who will not try to blame your traumatized emotions on your work. Most times when women are arrested for misdemeanor prostitution, they will be taken to the local police or sheriff's station and fingerprinted and booked. The officer who arrests you will probably tell you it won't take very long to go through the process of being booked, but, take it from those who have been there- it always takes many hours longer than they tell you it will. They want you to remain calm, so they will lie to you in order to keep you from getting more upset. Be prepared to be in custody overnight or even longer- and if you are released early, you can consider yourself lucky. Ultimately, you will be given the opportunity to make a phone call to contact a bail bonds person or your lawyer. Be sure that you have someone you can call who can make these calls for you incase you can't remember their numbers or incase you are only given one chance to make a call. If you have a friend available to take a call from you in the middle of the night, so much the better. Give him or her all the information necessary to get you out such as your location, your booking number and the arrest charge to give the bail bonds person. If you are released on your own "recognizance," that means that you don't have to post bail to get out. You will simply have to sign the arrest 'ticket' and agree to appear at your arraignment on the date you are given. Now, back to what it is like in jail. I can't speak for all jails- as I have only been to Los Angeles' Sybil Brand Institute. It is horribly overcrowded and an unpleasant place to be. If you are taken to jail after you have been booked at the police or sheriff's station, you will have to go through the process all over again, unless the jail holding facility is in the same place as you were taken to begin with. If it is in a separate location as it is in LA, you will be told to remove your shoes and stockings or socks and checked for drugs. If you have any jewelry, earrings, rings, etc. they will take them from you at this time. You will be given a receipt for all your things, but be sure they have listed everything they take from you. If it isn't listed on the receipt when they give it to you, you will probably never be able to prove they took it, and you can be sure that they will have some nice new jewelry to wear to the next cop party. Sad, but all too true! Next, you will be placed in a holding tank until it is your turn to be given a shower and checked for lice. In the holding tank, you have no privacy, so if at all possible, use the bathroom at the police station before you are taken to jail. There is usually no toilet paper in the holding tank, and the toilet is usually always overflowing. If you are on your period, you will not be able to find tampons, only pads, if you are lucky. Sometimes the women's jails are out of the basic necessities of life. Remind yourself that this is not a permanent situation, and no matter how humiliating it will be, it will be over eventually. When the other inmates who are called trustees bring coffee, fruit and sandwiches, do not turn them down even if you aren't hungry. The other women in the tank will get angry with you, and you don't want to make any enemies here. Take the food and when the guards aren't looking you can give it away. When it is your turn to be given a shower, it is better to know what to expect. If you are at all shy, this will be a very unpleasant experience. You have to shower and wash your hair in front of the female officers, and when you get out of the shower, you will have your head checked for lice and a body cavity search. . . meaning you have to bend over and spread your legs. . . and no, you won't get paid for this one! You will then be given a jail gown and your bedroll. Even if you think that you will be out of jail soon, you will still be given all this as they don't know when you will be released so they only go through the process once. If you are released quickly, you simply give them the property back when you leave. After you have been showered and checked for lice, you will most likely be fingerprinted even if they did it at the police station. After that, they will have you escorted to the dorm where you will be housed until you have been released. There are usually pay phones there, so you can continue to try to contact someone to bail you out. Each jail facility has a different time that lights go out and the telephones are turned off, but regardless, you can still be bailed out any time at all. When it is your turn, the officer will call your name over the loudspeaker even if it is four o'clock in the morning (did you expect to get some sleep in here???) If you attempt to ask an officer any questions in the meantime, they usually don't answer you, so don't get frustrated. Usually another inmate will have whatever answer you need, so be friendly and ask them. Believe me, if you are in jail on a prostitution charge, but don't think you should have been arrested, this is not the place to tell anyone that the cops wrongly arrested you. You will not find any sympathy at all here! Many of the women in county jails have been arrested for prostitution at one time or another, and have no patience for women who think they are too good to be there. As I said earlier, this is not a place to make enemies. You will need to have a friend to tell you what's going on in there if nothing else- so, be cool and go along with the program. No, you don't have to become anyone's love slave here- so don't think that being friendly is going to get you there. Remember that the county jails are filled with more and more gang members- women gang members are numerous- so don't say things that will offend one group or another. The best behavior is to keep your mouth shut, be friendly but reserved. It is difficult to know ahead of time what your bail will be- because it varies from case to case. Sometimes it is a low bail and sometimes high- it just depends on the officers who are arresting you or in what city you were arrested. If you have prior arrests or convictions, your bail will probably be higher. Once you have posted bail, you will be given back your property and or money that you gave to the booking officer. Check to be sure that all the property and money is there, because once you have left the building, it is too late to claim something is missing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT IF I USE A DIFFERENT NAME FOR MY BUSINESS, DO I HAVE TO TELL THEM MY REAL NAME, AND IF I DON'T, WILL THEY FIND OUT ANYWAY? Actors and actresses often use aliases. If the police bully you because you may use a different name for work, remind them that one of their heroes also used a 'fake' name- John Wayne. You can take the chance of not giving them your real name, and if you have no fingerprints on file, the chances are you will get away with it. If you have ever been arrested in another state, it may take more time, but with technology advancing as rapidly as it is, they will undoubtedly catch up with you. It is not illegal to use a fictitious name, or else plenty of actors and actresses would be in jail for doing so. It may, however, be a crime to deliberately withhold information from a law enforcement agent. (???) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT IF I DON'T SHOW UP AT MY ARRAIGNMENT? Unless you gave them a false name when they arrested you and they have no way to find you again, it is wise to show up at your arraignment. One of the reasons that many bail bonds people have stopped posting bail for prostitution arrests is because the women they post bail for don't show up at their arraignment and the bail bonds people lose their money. When you don't show up in court as you agreed to do when you were released, you make it more difficult for the next woman who gets arrested to be able to get out on bail. Of course, if you continue in your occupation and you should ever get arrested again, it will be on your record. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IF THEY TAKE PROPERTY FROM MY APARTMENT, WILL I EVER GET IT BACK, AND IF SO, WHEN? You should eventually get back everything they take from you, with the exception of drugs, of course, but it does take a long time sometimes for you to get it back. Sometimes you will never get it back unless you sue, and even then it is not for sure. Insist that your lawyer keep trying to recover your property, and keep track of the times you asked him or her to do it, what their response was, and if they gave you a time that you might get it back. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT KIND OF LAWYER DO I NEED AND WHAT WILL HE OR SHE DO FOR ME? HOW MUCH WILL THEY CHARGE ME? For a prostitution, pandering or pimping charge, you will need a criminal lawyer. As I said earlier, it is best to have a lawyer with experience handling these kinds of cases, or someone with enthusiasm for this cause. They will appear in court with you at your arraignment, file the necessary motions and papers that need to be filed with the court, and obtain all the information they need from the police records. HOWEVER, DO NOT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT THEY WILL KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN YOUR CASE. It is your job to make a list of the events that led to your arrest and give them possible reasons that led to your arrest, such as a jealous neighbor, a boyfriend, or a client you might be upset with you. Lawyers are not mind readers and only know what is in the police records. If you think that something is important to your case, be sure you get a clear answer from your attorney what they intend to do about it. Do not assume that just because you told your attorney about something that they will pursue that information. You have a right to know what is going on with your case at all times. If your lawyer won't give you a straight answer, keep after them until you know exactly where you stand. If your attorney uses language to explain your case to you that you don't understand, insist that they tell you so that you do understand everything that is going on. Lawyers charge different fees for different services, so it is important to get in writing exactly what they are going to do for the money you pay them. Some charge by the hour and others charge by the case. And they usually charge more to go to trial, so you need to know what the fees are for up to trial and what they will be if you decide to go to trial. If you are paying the lawyer by the hour, you may want to work out an arrangement to pay a flat fee for the trial. If you are paying the lawyer by the hour, be sure that he/she keeps track of the hours they spend on your case and give you a copy. . .don't take their word for how many hours they spent on it. You need to know if there are some questionable charges to your bill, such as phone calls to you or someone else that never took place, so be sure that you keep track of every phone call to your attorney or their calls to you. Keep track of how long the call is- because they will try to bill you for a whole hour even if they only talked to you for five minutes. Some lawyers want all their money upfront, and others will allow you to pay as the legal case proceeds. You will not get a refund if they lose your case, but if there is deliberate malpractice or incompetence, you can sue although it is difficult to find a lawyer who will sue another lawyer. If you have a question about your case, you have every right to call your attorney to ask them. A word of warning- attorneys are notorious for not returning phone calls- no matter how much you are paying them. If it is an emergency, you should state that when you leave a message with their voice mail or secretary. If it is a question that can wait, it may be a while before they get back to you, so be prepared. While you are waiting to learn your fate, it can be extremely frustrating if your attorney doesn't call you back right away. Don't panic. I found it helpful to write down the questions I had as they came to me so I could remember to ask my attorney whenever he did call me. The court must notify your attorney of anything that is important to your case, so don't worry that the police or the court can do anything to you without letting your attorney know first. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IF THEY HAVE ME ON TAPE, DO I HAVE A CHANCE TO FIGHT THE CASE OR SHOULD I JUST PLEAD GUILTY? As we discussed earlier, pleading guilty and getting a probation sentence can be a very bad thing, so, I suggest you demand that it go to trial. If the court is overloaded with cases, the city attorney or district attorney is not going to want to waste valuable court time and will try to get you to plea bargain. If you insist on going to trial, they may just throw the case out altogether. (You can't count on this, of course, but, it often happens.) If you have a public defender as your attorney, they will do their best to get you to take the offer that the city or district attorney offers you. Insist upon your right to go to trial. It is more work for them, but that's what they get paid for. Since you are facing a mandatory 45 days in jail, the least you can do for yourself is fight it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOW TO DEAL WITH A HIGH PROFILE CASE - THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW If you are unfortunate enough to get arrested at a time when there is a spotlight on prostitution (such as during television ratings periods like February, May, September and November) or if your case is unusual and would likely cause the media to be interested in your case, there are things you should know about what can happen to you and how you can fight back. If the media picks up on your case and flashes your name and perhaps even home address on the television screen, you will find your whole life will be altered- if not forever, then for some time to come. It is traumatic to have your privacy shattered for the sake of television or newspaper ratings, but the journalist who calls attention to your case to the public will not be concerned for your welfare. Even though prostitution is against the law to protect women from being exploited, you will find that there are few reporters who care about protecting your rights. They figure that if you were involved in an illegal or sexually explicit business, you have given up your rights to privacy and protection. Most of the time, reporters do not view women in the sex industry as human beings whose lives can be destroyed by the publicity that they receive- that we can even be put in danger of being murdered when our home address is revealed to the public and to some psycho out there who figures that society is better off without the "sinful woman." It has happened in the past, unfortunately, but the media doesn't apologize and doesn't get it that it is wrong for them to put us at risk through their efforts to get ratings. It makes the media our worst enemy in some cases. However, once the "cat is out of the bag," the most important thing you can do for yourself is to make a friend out of the media. If you have nothing to hide, it will only help you if you are friendly to the press rather than ignore them. Ignoring the press will only allow them to give the police version of the events, and, it will make it more difficult later on to get them to print your version. You do not need to tell them your whole story. Rather, if you want to wait until after you have had your arraignment in court and see if you are even going to be charged and have to go to trial, you can just tell them that you would be happy to give your side as soon as it is possible for you to do so. Appear friendly and cooperative, so that you bait them and make them want to talk to you. Unless your attorney has had experience dealing with a high profile case, they will probably not want you to speak to the press at all. In the circumstances where someone is charged with a serious crime where there is a victim, this is probably good advice, but in the cases of prostitution and related charges, there is no good reason not to try to make friends of the press. There is every reason for you to do so, however, including getting your reputation back. Your friends and family who may not have known what profession you were in before, may want to disown you. If they see only the police version of the events, they may never know what really happened. Since the media has already exposed you to the world, it is up to you to reclaim your reputation. If you have the opportunity to appear on a talkshow, be careful which one you do. If the talkshow has a reputation of tearing it's guests apart, you don't need to have that experience! Other shows like Oprah or Donahue are better, and will give you an opportunity to state your case without being verbally ambushed. One other side effect of appearing on a national tv show is that it tends to make your family, friends and neighbors view you differently and perhaps even think of you now as a celebrity rather than just an accused prostitute. For whatever reason, people do treat you differently if you have been on national tv than if you are just mentioned in the news. If you decide to appear on a talkshow, you might want to wait until it has been determined if the city or district attorney is going to file charges. If they do, you need to be careful what you say on television so that you don't implicate yourself or make it impossible for your lawyer to defend you. The talkshow host/ reporter or any other member of the media is going to try to get you to say whatever they want to hear- but you have the right to determine how much you will tell them. Do not let them bully you into saying anything that will get you into more trouble. If you feel they are going too far, tell them so. Just like anyone else, they will try to take advantage of you if you let them. You set the boundaries and determine what information you are willing to give. You can also get paid for your appearance, so be sure to ask the producer about a fee. Depending upon how much they want you and whether or not you are giving them an exclusive interview, they can pay you from a few hundred dollars to several thousand, although the Donahue Show seldom pays anyone at all. Shows like "20/20," "60 Minutes," and "Dateline" do not pay at all, but other so called tabloid shows like "Hard Copy," "Inside Edition" and "A Current Affair," will pay you and sometimes pay you a lot of money which can help you take care of your legal fees. If you get a lot of offers to do shows, you might think about hiring a publicist to represent you and negotiate your appearance fees. Back to your lawyer. If your lawyer absolutely refuses to let you speak to the press, it is your decision. The lawyer is working for you, and only you can decide if it is worth risking your case. Ask the lawyer what the risks are if you do speak to the media, and if it is okay if you just inform the press that you will be happy to speak to them when your lawyer permits you to. Again, unless a lawyer has handled a high profile prostitution case, they may not understand the importance of being nice to the press. A press statement from your lawyer is not going to be the same as one from you, and the media may ignore it. Also, if your case is not in the category of a Heidi Fleiss, even if your story is "hot" for a few days, eventually the media will find someone else to shine the spotlight on. Your opportunity to cash in on your notoriety is limited, and if it is a sweeps or ratings month, you have a better chance to get your side of the story told then you do when the month is over. Your story becomes a cold one in a short time, unless you can lure the media to wait for an interview with you at such time as you can give one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL THIS SOUNDS AWFUL . . . IS THERE ANY WAY TO PROTECT MYSELF FROM GETTING ARRESTED? To be honest with you, if the police want to arrest you, no matter what you do or say or don't say, they can and will arrest you. The charges might very well get thrown out of court or never get filed at all, but, you will probably end up spending money to defend yourself even if it goes nowhere. And not to mention you may have some explaining to do to your family and friends if your arrest makes the eleven o'clock news. When it comes to men and women in whatever branch of the sex industry, society would prefer not to know if the police are violating your rights. They figure the police wouldn't have arrested you in the first place if you weren't doing something illegal. So, it is up to you to take an aggressive posture and fight for your rights. There are some things that you can do to keep angry neighbors, jealous boyfriends, etc from turning you in, as well as some signs to look out for if the potential client is actually an undercover cop. Keep in mind that nothing you can do is 100% arrest proof. Exercise every precaution that you can, and hope that someday soon we will get these silly protectionist laws repealed so you can work in peace without the stress of wondering if it's your day to "go downtown." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MORE TIPS Be extra careful on multiple girl calls. The cops like to set up as many women at a time as possible because it saves time on paperwork. Beside, cops are just like other men and they like menages, too! If you go to his hotel room and he asks you to sit in a specific seat, rather than where you want to, he may be angling you for the video camera. Either make sure they get your good side for the tape of tell him you will sit wherever you want. *If you are an exotic dancer, and a customer wants to see you privately, don't think that just because he has been into the club before and spent lots of money on you that he is safe. Cops can and do spend lots of the taxpayer's money to set up sting operations, and so it is not safe to assume that the customer is not a cop because he has given you big tips in the past. Even if you turn him down to see him privately, he can still arrest you if you allow him to touch your genitals, or he asks you to touch his, for a tip. If he has an erection, it is still no proof that he is not a cop- after all, cops are human too, and they can get aroused as easily as any other men when they are dealing with attractive and sexy women. IF LITTLE BELLS START GOING OFF IN YOUR HEAD - LISTEN TO THEM DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT SEX AND MONEY AND IF HE INSIST UPON GETTING YOU TO DISCUSS A SEX ACT GET UP AND LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. IF HE IS VISITING YOU, TELL HIM HE HAS OFFENDED YOU AND ASK HIM TO LEAVE AT ONCE. --------------



I recently read a story about an AMP bust, I think in LA. The masseuse was busted when they made an offer to perform extras for cash. I just had a thought:

I get a massage: Not illegal.

I then ask for a HJ, which in itself is an adult act that is not illegal.

EVEN if I then give a certain tip, this does not then make the former act illegal, because the masseuse has absolutely no control over whether or how much I choose to tip. And occasionally people DO just walk out without tipping at all, and there's nothing the masseuse can do.

So this is why most places are pretty much immune to busts. Maybe this is why the AMP system is set up the way it is. Maybe this explains why most of the busts are immigration busts, etc.

A1 however is setting themselves up by negotiating money in advance.

But there is another possible way places might get busted, with a sort of conspiracy charge. A case would have to be made where there is a pattern and a known agreement for money for services. But the only way this case can be made is if a cop actually has sex at least once or twice and exchange money once or twice, to establish a pattern. But in order to do this, a cop will actually have to have sex. But heck, it could happen, because as I just pointed out, a person (even a cop) getting a HJ, in itself, is not necessarilly illegal. Interesting.

Phillipe

Phillippe
05-24-06, 14:58
Nothing in your post contradicts my point.

QUOTE:

"COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS: * IF NO MONEY CHANGES HANDS, I HAVE NOT BROKEN THE LAW. The law only requires......is to agree (by smiling or nodding your head) to touch his buttocks or genitals (through massage or dominance), and agree to take a fee for it - in cash, or other consideration"
UNQUOTE:

If I'm getting a HJ at a massage parlor, I haven't agreed to give ANY fee for it at all, whether cash or a lawnmowing. That was my entire point. With a crackwhore, if you don't pay you will get stabbed or something, so there is an implied exchange. If I get a HJ at a massage parlour and you don't tip, you can just walk out, the same way you can walk out of Denny's without tipping.

QUOTE
I ONLY DANCE NUDE AND MASTURBATE MYSELF. IS THAT PROSTITUTION? The law says prostitution is "a lewd act for money or other consideration," So, whether you masturbate yourself, or, if you have a girl-girl show where you touch the breasts, buttocks or genitals of a third party, if the individual who is paying you gets aroused, etc. you have broken the law. "
UNQUOTE

OK, but there still has to be the exchange of 'money or other consideration'

Bobby O
05-25-06, 11:08
Soonie rocks!

Thanks for the report Marvelous88.

OxnardBadBoy
05-26-06, 00:52
Well this is my first post ever. I been going to amps for sometime. I was about to go to St Marys at around 8pm tonight but i saw 5 cars there LOL. Which one you fellas were there haha.

Marvelous88
05-27-06, 02:14
Soonie rocks!

Thanks for the report Marvelous88.So I was back in town for a great party Sunday night and came back Monday morning with dreams of Soonie sweetly sucking some....never mind.

So I called ahead, "good morning Mamasan is my friend Soonie available"..."so sorry Soonie is out today". Oh so sad I say, but Mamsan says come anyway, another nice girl for you, blah, blah. Don't know what happened with Soonie that's supposed to be her day - hey Bobby O were you there with her Monday late morning?

So I got Sophie instead. She's no Soonie but better than average, a great attitude and a comfortable ride with good follow through.

I'm invited to a birthday party up there tomorrow and may go just to "hit" another favorite on the way back.

Man you Ox guys have it good!

Have a great MemDay weeeeeekend.

Marvelous

Bobby O
05-27-06, 23:36
As a matter of fact, yes, I was there about that time. Sorry to spoil your fun!

Zacharias
05-30-06, 19:00
Today I went to St. M. I hadn't been to a provider for several months but today I had the urge.

I got Angie, who as another monger put it, is quite the lump. She's pretty thick around the middle (almost thought she was pregnant). Piss poor massage followed by a pounding from behind and I was off. Pretty unsatisfying IMHO.

Being unattractive is one thing, but at least learn how to do a halfway decent massage please.

Z

Big Hick
06-01-06, 01:04
I've been to both places recently and had a good time. Total was $.40 + $.80. I know that is a little high, but believe me, I get my money's worth.

I did notice something different this time. I went to one of the places twice over a two week period and saw the same girl. The first time it was on a weekday night. The second time was on a Saturday night. I have to admit that the p*ssy didn't feel as good the second time.

Kobe must have been there before me. ha ha ha ha ha

Phred
06-01-06, 19:28
Hi All

I get to Oxnard about once year so I make the best of it when I’m here. I wanted to try some places I hadn’t hit before.

I tried the Golden touch on Vinyard east of the 101. I had Gina, so-so looks, fair massage and fair fs 40 + 80. Then I hit Jun on Pleasant Valley. Cindy was 21 and about an 8. Massage was weak and fs under whelming 40 + 100. Not worth it won’t go back. Last night I hit Tokyo. Latino provider (I don’t remember her name) looks about 5, fair massage enthusiastic fs, 40 + 80.

Last night here in the nard so I’ll treat myself to the Wagon Wheel.

I tried to cruise, saw some possibles on Oxnard between 6th and 9th, but I was a little leery as both were taller and had pronounced Adam’s apples.

Happy hunting
Phred

Jurassic
06-02-06, 14:18
Guys I haven't been down to Oxnard for over a year.

When I used to visit some places off Saviers, .6 was acceptable tip for FS.
Have the prices inflated, along with the cost of gas?

Is .8 the norm for FS?

In Santa Barbara they ask for 1.0 and I offer .8 and get decent service, trying to keep the prices down.

Also I recall paying .5 for 30 minutes at O-spa and possibly O-accu several years ago.

.4 for 30, .5 for 45 and .6 for 60 minutes is the norm up here.

Phillippe
06-02-06, 16:08
Seems like it use to be $40 & $60 for 30 & 45 min. Now half the places raised it up to $50 & $70. And several of the places that are still $40, also have $10 off coupons that make it even cheaper

I'm surprised SB is so cheap for the longer visits

Several posts recently have people mentioning tip amounts of $80 or $100. Don't let that throw you off. I tip 40-50 for HJ, and the same for FS. The only time I would go beyond that is if service is exceptional, for example multiples with beautiful girl, or if I felt bad because she worked really hard during a longer visit. Noone has ever complained about my tip, and they have always been happy to see me again.

Maybe the guys mentioning the higher tips think they're bigshots. Maybe, and I'm being serious here, the girl is happy with a 50 tip because there are some guys that don't even know you're supposed to tip at all. I see this all the time in coffeeshops and barbershops

Maybe when I read about the tactics at A1, it's not because the girls are ambitous over there, but because if they don't push, some guys would tip nothing at all

Phillipe

Chief69
06-02-06, 18:19
[QUOTE=Jurassic]Guys I haven't been down to Oxnard for over a year.

When I used to visit some places off Saviers, .6 was acceptable tip for FS.
Have the prices inflated, along with the cost of gas?

Is .8 the norm for FS?

Jurassic,

A number of them have held the line at .4 for 30. Two I know of are Myako off Saviers and Pleasant Valley and Golden Touch on Vineyard. Others, as has been stated, are at .5 for 30. Two I know of are St. Mary's and Toyko. I haven't been to most of the other places recently. As for tips, I routinely give .6 and they seem happy enough where I go regularly. About six months ago, I encountered an upsell at St. Mary's, but it just depends on how attractive (young) she thinks she is: frankly, I have had poor results with the younger ones. Chief

Zacharias
06-03-06, 00:07
"I encountered an upsell at St. Mary's, but it just depends on how attractive (young) she thinks she is"

Yeah, some girls will try to negotiate beforehand. Some will drop it when you say "Don't worry, I'll take care of you" and others (usually the best ones) never ask for a tip.

This has been my experience.

Z

Foreplay
06-04-06, 00:52
Late report. Couple weeks ago visited the above and had a new girl, I think named Joey. Very awkward,she wasn't quite sure what to do and how far. It felt like it was her first time working. Nice tits natural. We finally worked out the mechanics and launched into the blue. Mamasan looks as always a little out of it and mean. She did however accept $40 instead of $50. She by now is probably a pro and will make you feel like a million.

Friendly Tiger
06-10-06, 10:13
For those that venture to the far western SFV...

This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.

I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...

...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL

She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.

I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.

Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review.

Malo
06-26-06, 19:05
I heard through the grape vine that wagon wheel is going away July 15th. Has anyone heard this?

Hobby knob
07-01-06, 02:32
I heard through the grape vine that wagon wheel is going away July 15th. Has anyone heard this?

Went there today. When I was leaving, she told me "honey, we moving" she gave me a piece of paper. It said moving on July 17th (i think). It also had the address and name and map with directions. I did not take that paper home for obvious reasons.

If a senior member wants it, let me know via PM. The name is one that has been used before. I think it was posted earlier to have been closed.

BTW. Yea for me. my 100th post. Do I get a free BJ or something?

Phillippe
07-01-06, 02:52
I suspect WW is moving to a location not too far away.

Congratulations. For your 100th post you get a free shot of penicillin. Seriously, I was just talking to someone who picked up syphilis locally after his third BBBJ. WATCH IT.

You here me dumbasses? WATCH. IT.

BTW, you didn't mention how your visit was today.

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-05-06, 02:07
With the long holiday weekend I decided to check out the neighborhood. I found a total of 10 AMP's, all Chinese and in a nutshell this is what I found/got:

1 - Massage School. I did not get a massage here.
3 - Closed for the holiday. Will try to get to them later
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got HJ included no extra $
1 - 30 min 40, Older, Jeans, wanted 60 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Young, Jeans, asked 100 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Older, Pants Uniform, No extras offered
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got Saran BJ for 60
1 - 30 min 45, Young, Short Skirt, got her nude, 69 and Saran JB for 80

I got the promise of FS on future visits at two places but I bet it will be expensive.

If you want more info or if you have any info let me know.

Mike

FedEx
07-06-06, 20:45
Hey Phillippe,

Where did your friend picke up his unpleasant gift? Was it in St. Mary's?
There was a report on this board about 6 - 9 months ago from someone who picked up something similar at St. Mary's after having a few BBFS sessions.

Please advise any info - this is very important for all of us and the kind of info we do need to share!

Thanks,
Fedex


I suspect WW is moving to a location not too far away.

Congratulations. For your 100th post you get a free shot of penicillin. Seriously, I was just talking to someone who picked up syphilis locally after his third BBBJ. WATCH IT.

You here me dumbasses? WATCH. IT.

BTW, you didn't mention how your visit was today.

FedEx
07-06-06, 20:50
Hi Mike,

Nice post - were ther any AMP's that you did NOT visit?... LOL

If you bring cover with you into these Chinese places, you can avoid the saran wrap and get a nice cbj.

Just my 2 cents.


With the long holiday weekend I decided to check out the neighborhood. I found a total of 10 AMP's, all Chinese and in a nutshell this is what I found/got:

1 - Massage School. I did not get a massage here.
3 - Closed for the holiday. Will try to get to them later
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got HJ included no extra $
1 - 30 min 40, Older, Jeans, wanted 60 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Young, Jeans, asked 100 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Older, Pants Uniform, No extras offered
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got Saran BJ for 60
1 - 30 min 45, Young, Short Skirt, got her nude, 69 and Saran JB for 80

I got the promise of FS on future visits at two places but I bet it will be expensive.

If you want more info or if you have any info let me know.

Mike

Tsboy69
07-08-06, 04:22
Saw Tanya this week and I think it will be the last time.

Thinking about her service all week and made the time to stop by...She was available and after taking a self-shower had the same great rimming and service as the last time. $.5 + $.8

The problem is that I have probably seen her maybe 10 times over several years and the thrill is gone.. She is great...nasty, non-rushed, passionate acting, but I had a hard time nutting this time. It's the same 'ol, same 'ol.

Am I being spoiled? To me, the thrill of not knowing what is going to happen is missing with her...maybe it is a short attention span. Her service is top notch, but been there, done that.

Finding quality in Oxnard or anywhere for that matter is sometimes a challenge. But I like the anticipation of the unknown, it can be more exciting.

What do you guys think?

Hobby knob
07-08-06, 08:40
Saw Tanya this week and I think it will be the last time.

Thinking about her service all week and made the time to stop by...She was available and after taking a self-shower had the same great rimming and service as the last time. $.5 + $.8

The problem is that I have probably seen her maybe 10 times over several years and the thrill is gone.. She is great...nasty, non-rushed, passionate acting, but I had a hard time nutting this time. It's the same 'ol, same 'ol.

Am I being spoiled? To me, the thrill of not knowing what is going to happen is missing with her...maybe it is a short attention span. Her service is top notch, but been there, done that.

Finding quality in Oxnard or anywhere for that matter is sometimes a challenge. But I like the anticipation of the unknown, it can be more exciting.

What do you guys think?


I had the same thoughts a while back. Her service was always the same. It was great, but no anticipation. I agree with you not knowing whats gonna happen is 1/2 the fun. I even go to places where I know not much may happen, for the thrill and hope but.......

I still see her about once a month. And the past several times have been incredible. (this morning as a matter of fact)

I still go to other places for the "thrill", but I always find my way back to her.

I think the change in excitement with her was my doing. I used to let her initiate, and it was always the same. Now, when she enters, I take control and lead it in the direction that suits my mood.

Still all the same Nasty stuff, but not in the same order, so I think the mix up helps me.

If you don't go back to her, Great! Next time I won't have to wait for her like I did this morning. LOL

Webcams
07-08-06, 11:30
Saw Tanya this week and I think it will be the last time.

The problem is that I have probably seen her maybe 10 times over several years and the thrill is gone.. She is great...nasty, non-rushed, passionate acting, but I had a hard time nutting this time. It's the same 'ol, same 'ol.

Am I being spoiled? To me, the thrill of not knowing what is going to happen is missing with her...maybe it is a short attention span. Her service is top notch, but been there, done that.
Finding quality in Oxnard or anywhere for that matter is sometimes a challenge. But I like the anticipation of the unknown, it can be more exciting.
What do you guys think?It would be easy to say quit complaining, but what you feel is what every man feels, hence marriage is a BAD Idea! !
Here's the deal, you got a good service, it's normal to want more but I tell you I miss not having those regular places around we all took them for granted in the SFV, and now there all gone, It's easy to say you don't know what you got till it's gone, but at the end of the day what we want isn't just a nut, hell we can get that looking on-line or getting a Urentdvd subscription, what we want is the fantasy the experience new pussy is better then old pussy, so don't write off the old pussy completely, but make time to find new pussy as well. If worse comes to worse you can take a double headed dildo with you next time or stockings what ever turns you on and ask Tanya to help you out. But always remain on the look out for that new place and new girl. Half the fun is in the looking.

Phillippe
07-08-06, 14:13
Some of us however don't have the resources to do a bunch of exploration like that. For me, going to a AMP is a really big event, I have to make each visit count. Fortunately I have a friend who loves the exploration part, and has provided me with some really excellent intel.

Now, I saw something interesting last night on my way home (firday night). I would never think of going to Myako, because of the location and occasional (old) bad reviews. But I just happened to be driving by as they were leaving for the day, and saw a Mama and two girls leaving the building. Not bad from what I saw, both were probably early 30's, very light skin. It was just a brief look, but the point is, they weren't the old fat ladies that I've read about here before. If anyone's willing to do a little exploration, PM me how it goes.

FedEx
07-08-06, 20:46
Just got back from O Spa (after being absent from The 'Nard in the last 5 months). Called an hour ahead and made appointment to see Soonie. Got there on time, MMS shows me to the room and tells me 5 - 10 minutes wait, since Soonie is with a customer. I wait 2 - 3 minutes and decide that I'll pass on a provider - as hot as she can be - that is coming to me after another monger banged her silly without much time for her to refresh.

Was that one of you guys - around 2:45pm?... LOL

So I called the MMS and asked who else was working. She said Cici & Tanya. Don't know about Cici, but saw Tanya twice back in 2005, so I asked for her. Tanya is a sure bet - very eager to please and this girl just loves to lick ass. A/R, 69, CBJ, multiple positions CFS, she climaxed, then I busted a nut 20 minutes into the session. $50 + $60, but I had to drive one hour each way from the SFV and my car consumed more than 1/4 tank - that's another $15 in today's prices.

So I don't know: 2 hours drive for 20 minutes of fun, total $125 (with gas) - that really sucks. Although nothing bad can be said about the service - Tanya looked great than ever and gave her top notch service.

Phillippe
07-14-06, 00:45
Does anyone know any providers who will let me use a banana on them? Will put a condom on it of course.

Got this idea from the toys comment a few posts back

(For all I know, with the more I'm learning every single day, it'd be hard to find someone who ISN'T willing to use a banana....)

Chief69
07-14-06, 09:01
So I called the MMS and asked who else was working. She said Cici & Tanya. Don't know about Cici, but saw Tanya twice back in 2005, so I asked for her. Tanya is a sure bet - very eager to please and this girl just loves to lick ass. A/R, 69, CBJ, multiple positions CFS, she climaxed, then I busted a nut 20 minutes into the session. $50 + $60,

I'm guessing Saturday's probably her last work day of the week, if you know? I think they open around 9 a.m?

FedEx
07-14-06, 20:36
Can you believe that they have a website?

www oriental-spa com

9:30am to 11:30pm is stated on the website.

And based on my memory, Tanya does not work on Sundays (although I believe that when they take off a few days a months due to Aunt Flo, they may rework their schedule - just a thought...)


So I called the MMS and asked who else was working. She said Cici & Tanya. Don't know about Cici, but saw Tanya twice back in 2005, so I asked for her. Tanya is a sure bet - very eager to please and this girl just loves to lick ass. A/R, 69, CBJ, multiple positions CFS, she climaxed, then I busted a nut 20 minutes into the session. $50 + $60,

I'm guessing Saturday's probably her last work day of the week, if you know? I think they open around 9 a.m?

Tsboy69
07-15-06, 06:16
It is my memory that the famous Tanya takes off on Sun, and Mondays - maybe Tuesdays too....

I asked her the last time I saw her.

Happy hunting

Chief69
07-15-06, 10:33
It is my memory that the famous Tanya takes off on Sun, and Mondays - maybe Tuesdays too....

I asked her the last time I saw her.

Happy hunting
Saw her yesterday. She's there from Wednesday to Saturday.

Chief69
07-15-06, 10:36
So I called the MMS and asked who else was working. She said Cici & Tanya. Don't know about Cici, but saw Tanya twice back in 2005, so I asked for her. Tanya is a sure bet - very eager to please and this girl just loves to lick ass. A/R, 69, CBJ, multiple positions CFS, she climaxed, then I busted a nut 20 minutes into the session. $50 + $60,

I'm guessing Saturday's probably her last work day of the week, if you know? I think they open around 9 a.m?

Not sure how I did this, but the above starting with "So I called the MMS" should have been quoted. Someone else wrote this. Excuse my clumsiness.
Chief.

Chief69
07-15-06, 10:39
The line up yesterday was Soonie, Tanya, and Anna. I'd guess ---guess I said--they will all be Wed-Saturday. Never heard Anna mentioned here before. Chief

Friendly Tiger
07-15-06, 10:42
...located on Moorpark Road. :(

Rockett Man
07-15-06, 20:26
I'll jump in here for a sec

no, anna has been mentioned on this board before. That is how I knew about her. Also, Soonie is not that young. Just want to give you all an fyi. She is probably early to mid 30s, but she "looks young" according to some.

Finally, I think all the dudes on these boards who bang asian chicks and say "they all look young cause they are asian and I can't tell" should use this formula...

Add +8 years to your guess. Cause if you think all asian gals look young, it means you are guessing too young. So add +8 years and use that as your estimated guess if you post.

Sort of like the George Costanza episode, where he decided to do everything "opposite" of what he normally did.

Ok rant over. I am in semi-retirement but just spreading some love. No pun intended.

RM


The line up yesterday was Soonie, Tanya, and Anna. I'd guess ---guess I said--they will all be Wed-Saturday. Never heard Anna mentioned here before. Chief

Chief69
07-15-06, 23:21
I'll jump in here for a sec

no, anna has been mentioned on this board before. That is how I knew about her. Also, Soonie is not that young. Just want to give you all an fyi. She is probably early to mid 30s, but she "looks young" according to some.

Finally, I think all the dudes on these boards who bang asian chicks and say "they all look young cause they are asian and I can't tell" should use this formula...

Add +8 years to your guess. Cause if you think all asian gals look young, it means you are guessing too young. So add +8 years and use that as your estimated guess if you post.

Sort of like the George Costanza episode, where he decided to do everything "opposite" of what he normally did.

Ok rant over. I am in semi-retirement but just spreading some love. No pun intended.

RM
no problem. Thanks for the input. Using your criteria I'd guess that Tanya is 38 to 40. Do you concur? Haven't tried the others.
Chief.

Chief69
07-16-06, 01:23
After my session with Tanya at Ospa on Saturday I exited the establishment. I was flagged down by a monger in an Suv. Apparently, he had been too forthright, insistent at the door and had been denied entry. Remember, subtilty is all when dealing with asian!

Spank Me
07-16-06, 02:26
I gotta thank y'all for the posts on Tanya. Well worth the experience. While I"m at it, I'll throw in a plug for Annie too, does the same routine as Tanya, but just not as experienced at it, and she's nice and freindly. I'll vote Cherry a thumbs down, as I find she's just a GREEDY *****, actually pulled me back in the room to complain I didn't tip her enough, how she worked so hard and could have been in other rooms making $200 that hour. Oh, riiiight. Maybe she should ask MMS for a split of the high price they want just coming through the door. I'll pass on Cherry next time. She wouldn't be worth anything near that much.

Tsboy69
07-16-06, 04:34
Asian women age very well. Especially the ones not born here. Tans are no-no in most Asian countries so by protecting themselves from the sun, their skin is better preserved.

Note that there are some areas when darker skin prevails...

Tanya is in her mid to late 40's....sorry guys.. Take a look at her eyes - they don't lie..she also is getting a bit of a tummy. Korean girls often have no ass so there is nothing to droop there....it has been for years!

happy hunting

crd2
07-16-06, 23:44
Knowing WW was supposedly moving I called to see if they actually did. MMS told me they already moved and gave me new address. Got to new location but name is not WW anymore but still same phone number.

Decided to go in and MMS asked if I've been there before. Since i'm thinking its old WW i said yes (would've said yes anyway). Asked for girl i used to see at WW and was told she doesn't work there anymore, but MMS says we have many new girls everyday.

Saw polynesian girl who tells me WW closed and many of their girls came to this location. I might go back again just to see if any of the same girls are there.

Phillippe
07-17-06, 00:26
Well, since I can call and ask "where are you guys at now?" it's not really a state secret, now is it.

Someone mind saying where WW is located at?

Phillippe
07-18-06, 02:20
Got some good inside knowlege that I wanted to repeat here on this board.

The last couple times I saw my favorite provider I've only wanted HJ, both for safety reasons and because frankly she's not that good FS.

Each time she told me I was tipping too much and actually gave me some of the tip back! (I guess she figures giving up some $ is better for business in the long run...)

Anyway we got to talking and I asked her about these $70, $80 $100 tips I've read about here lately. She said that everyone is still tipping 50-60, higher than that is pretty unusual. And it doesn't really matter what they do, whether HJ, BJ or FS.

Gee05
07-18-06, 03:19
Nicoles Spa. Its in the newspaper. Whats the hold up with info?

Gee

Rockett Man
07-19-06, 00:07
thx chief. I think my formula is a good general rule for those who can't guess asian gals ages.. :)

but yes, I believe tanya is over 40.

peace





no problem. Thanks for the input. Using your criteria I'd guess that Tanya is 38 to 40. Do you concur? Haven't tried the others.
Chief.

Hobby knob
07-19-06, 02:05
went to see Cherrie today but someone had her again. I didnt have time to wait. I had to settle for a mexican girl. Erica was very pretty with a pretty good body. (fake rack) and im not into the tattoos.

Service was decent but no kissing and she wanted way too much money. Had to haggle. Man I hate that.

Wish I had more time. I would have waited for Cherrie or gone over to try out Soonie for the first time.

Friendly Tiger
07-20-06, 09:51
One suspect arrested in brothel crackdown
By Zeke Barlow, zbarlow@VenturaCountyStar.com
July 20, 2006

Scattered around Thousand Oaks are a handful of businesses that look legit enough.

Stickers on the windows advertise how Visa, MasterCard and Discover are accepted. Doctors, hair designers and restaurateurs hang shingles right next door. The businesses even advertise in the local newspaper.

But what goes on inside these businesses is anything but legal, said Ventura County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Mike De Los Santos.

Three massage parlors in Thousand Oaks and one Camarillo home were searched Wednesday as part of a crackdown on parlors suspected of doubling as brothels.

Though officials are not sure if all the suspected brothels are connected, the roughly 35 "massage technicians" who worked at the various businesses often moved among locations, De Los Santos said.

Though only one arrest was made, others could come, De Los Santos said.

"It's a large operation," he said, standing outside one of the massage parlors on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, just beside a dentist's office. "It shows that if it's here, it's everywhere."

The Sheriff's Department has been getting complaints about the parlors for years and started an investigation six months ago, De Los Santos said. Another parlor in Westlake Village was raided last month.

On Monday, deputies searched the Oriental Health Center at 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite A, and arrested owner Gui Yun Wang, 42, of Camarillo, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of ill fame.

Also searched was New Life Acupuncture at 253 Lombard St., Suite B, and HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure at 951 S. Westlake Blvd., Suite 200. Another business that has since moved was searched, as well as Wang's Camarillo home.

The masseurs will be cited if they do not have massage licenses. No clients were arrested over the course of the investigation.

Though no Ventura County sheriff's deputies did any undercover work, an outside agency did do some at the Westlake Village location, De Los Santos said. He declined to say what agency that was. Other information came from "Johns" coming out of the businesses, he said.

In addition to complaints, De Los Santos said, the whereabouts of the parlors were as easy to find as picking up the Ventura County Star. Advertisements in the classified section routinely boast such things as "new girls" and "free table showers." The VC Reporter also advertises such services.

Star Publisher Tim Gallagher said the paper accepts advertisements from businesses with a legal license, but at times, the language of the advertisements has to be toned down. If the business is deemed illegal, the advertisements are pulled, he said.

"If we are battling for the First Amendment, and it's a legal business, we'll accept their ads," Gallagher said.

De Los Santos said the illegitimate businesses take away from the bona fide masseurs trying to make a living. More scrutiny will be given to masseurs and business when they apply for licenses, he said.

Though the searches were limited to Thousand Oaks, such places exist all around the county, he said.

At the parlors raided on Monday, the procedure would usually entail a client asking for a massage and paying about $60 for it, De Los Santos said. The client would then initiate something more — sometimes including full intercourse — and give a large tip on top of the massage rate.

This came as little surprise to the business owners around the parlors.

"There was a lot of traffic, a lot more than you'd see for an acupuncturist," said Jay Perry, manager of Johnny P's A Place for Ribs, which is just below HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure. He'd see as many as 20 men, often middle-aged and seemingly middle to upper class, go into the business each day, he said.

De Los Santos said the quality of the parlors depended on their location. Some were small and quaint, others had six rooms and lavish decorations.

"That place," he said, referring to the one in Westlake Village, "looked like a five-star hotel."

Big Gip
07-20-06, 11:51
Hello board! It's been quite a while since I've posted here. Woke up today and read the paper, only to see a front page article about some of our favorite places getting busted. AND THEN come to find that news about the article was already posted on the board. Oh well, at least we know that we have people looking out for us within our group.

Zacharias
07-20-06, 13:41
"De Los Santos said the illegitimate businesses take away from the bona fide masseurs trying to make a living."

Somehow I think that those who frequent our favorite AMPs are not looking for a "bona fide" massage. In fact, I suspect a "bona fide massage" is not easily found in these "illegitimate businesses".

It's a completely different kind of business. Someone once said it's the oldest profession.

Z

Phillippe
07-20-06, 15:45
The girl looked pretty hot too. If you go to venturacountystar.com you can see a pic of her. Then click on the picture a couple times to get a slightly bigger version.

Here's the deal. If the cops feel the need to bust someone and make an example, they might as well kill two birds with one stone and bust an A1 or an OAcc for us, where they negotiate upfront (it'll be easier for them to make the legal case as well) Or maybe choose to bust somewhere where there is alot of BB stuff going on.

Spank Me
07-20-06, 20:21
Hey, anybody want my "10th massage" free card? It was almost full.

Hobby knob
07-20-06, 22:38
Wow,

I never go there, but did go last week. Sad thing is I got nothing! Not even a Handshake.

I didn't initiate anything, and maybe its a good thing I didnt. They said they didnt us decoys, but better off just the same.

I did get 1 hour when I paid for 30 mins. hmmmmmm. Maybe she was waiting for me!

Webcams
07-20-06, 22:51
WoW One whole Suspect charged with "conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of ill fame"

I think the last charge sounds pretty cool, however In my entire life I have never asked anyone to go to a house of ill fame, does that make it infamous? I wonder if the charge can be beat on the grounds of it was a retail establishment and not a house,or maybe that Nobody Gives a shit defense might work. Isn't it great to see are hard working $ spent cracking down on the One suspect? Maybe Law Enforcement is getting to much money let's not forget how they spend our hard earned money they help themselves to next time some bullshit bond measure comes up for a vote, if you mention to a friend how much of a waste it is maybe they will tell a friend.

I know I will sleep much better knowing that all those suspects, err suspect is behind bars were she can no longer run a jack shack or as the cops put it a House of Ill Fame, Sounds like a strip joint name to me.

Rubberband Man
07-21-06, 05:00
http://www.keyt.com/news/local/3394051.html

Check the video. Gonna miss health center.

Phillippe
07-21-06, 14:50
Thanks for the report, Rubber.

In the clip it says SIX places were shut down and MANY people arrested. This thing is deeper than first appeared. Unless the report was in error, that would basically mean every place in T.O. is shutdown I guess.

This is more serious than it appears. I'd like to hear if any of you are now experiencing (or have heard of) much more cautious behaviour on the part of the massuesse at your favorite establishment. With SIX busts, the owners must know that the axe has struck very close to home, and even if they are extremely carefull here on out, it may still be too late

PM me and we'll exchange info

Zacharias
07-21-06, 16:47
I particularly liked the cop's view that these places bring a lot of crime and drugs into the area. I've always been surprised at how clean and friendly the mms and girls are. No hint of drugs, gangs or criminal activity in the AMPs. Am I wrong?

More likely it's people such as the lady in the video (who was ecstatic about the crackdown) that are pushing for this so their hubby's don't do the nasty with someone else. Prepare for a lot of grouchy frustrated men at home ladies...

Z

Webcams
07-21-06, 21:31
From the Paper

THOUSAND OAKS - Nine women were arrested and six massage parlors closed in a crackdown on prostitution following a six-month investigation, authorities said Thursday.

And more arrests are expected in the case being investigated by the Thousand Oaks police and Ventura County sheriff's departments and the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.

The accusations include pandering, immigration violations and misdemeanor massage license violations.

Although the standard fee for a massage was $40 to $60, some men paid separate fees - referred to as "tips" - for sexual services, investigators said.

"The prostitutes will often receive this payment in the form of a `tip' from their customers after the sexual act in an attempt to avoid the elements of prostitution," sheriff's Sgt. Mike De Los Santos said.

He said it was important to crack down on such illegal sex businesses because they typically lead to more vice-related crime.

"If you have five of them, you will end up getting 10 of them," he said.

Some of those arrested were Chinese nationals living illegally in the United States. "People who are lured to this country for illicit purposes are often treated like a commodity, making them vulnerable to all kinds of exploitation," said ICE Agent David Wales. "ICE is committed to working with its local law enforcement partners to dismantle criminal enterprises like this one that threaten not only the welfare of those involved, but also the quality of life in our communities," he said.

The arrests were made when search warrants were served June 14 and Wednesday, and the people taken into custody were from various parts of Southern California, including Granada Hills, Moorpark, Camarillo, Santa Paula, Rosemead, Pasadena and Alhambra. They include:

Yan Jun Hu, 39, of Granada Hills, the owner of the Asian Wellness Center, 166 N. Moorpark Road, who was arrested on suspicion of pandering.

Shuying Qi, 43, of Moorpark, the owner of Chinese Acupuncture Center, 1337 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., and Reflexology Plus, 5565 Lindero Canyon Road, on suspicion of pandering.

Gui Yun Yang, 42, of Camarillo, the owner of the Oriental Health Center, 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of prostitution.

Two misdemeanor arrests were also made at the HWA Rong Chinese Medical Clinic at 951 S. Westlake Blvd. Another arrest on suspicion of failing to obtain a license was made in connection with the former Asian Health Center Spa on Thousand Oaks Boulevard that recently closed.

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-22-06, 00:36
I was at one of these places last night. I called them at about 8:45 PM to see if they were open and she said she would wait, they close at 9 PM. Got 30 minute massage for 40. Nice lady wearing what looked like a nightie. Only got a HJ but she did not ask for a tip and she gave me her number. I called her tonight to see what was going on but had to leave a message. Hope she calls back so I can get the low down.

I've got a couple of those "10 Free" cards myself.

Mike

Spank Me
07-22-06, 03:00
Good thing Oxnard is corrupt and has their own PD, so our fav amps will probably keep on giving great service, but they'll probably just raise their prices again :-(

Foreplay
07-22-06, 17:49
Hey, just checked a new provider this am. Good english and french. A little nervous but willing in the end. Send me a pm if you are interested in more details.

Wander4fun
07-22-06, 20:31
I have always wondered why Oxnard doesn't bust the AMP's. I travel from coast to coast, and they have to provide some of the best services in the country, but thank god no one has tried to put them out of business. With these big busts first hitting the San Fernando Valley, and now Thousand Oaks, it won't be long before Simi and a few other local areas are hit by LE.

I really believe they offer more of a service by keeping thier clients minds and head(s) busy.

MrLucky
07-23-06, 21:16
Two words, one reason: Navy Base

Hobby knob
07-24-06, 01:19
Saw Amy there. She used to work at Golden touch and I saw her once at Nicoles too.

I guess she moves around alot.

She did not use the name Amy at teh other places

LuvDaPuss
07-25-06, 21:56
Been watching this for a while and it only surprises me that they let it go on as long as they have. You can't do this sort of thing where da' white folks live. Zoning is all it is. Oxnard and Ventura are OK for the sport but not T.O., Camarillo, Westlake Village, Moorpark, etc as there are too many porky's out there that don't want their men folk to get any ideas. They have too much to lose if the old iron grip is to be challenged. So they make a campain (misspelling intended) of phone call complaints to the sheriff and PD and probably city councilmen being a general pain in the ass. It is not in these type of women to just leave it alone since they get off on control at all levels.
Would not surprise me at all if the next to go is Simi. Granted it is a blue collar town too but way too white and just a tiny bit too upscale. That means my favorite places in Oxnard and Ventura are going to get crowded and expensive again. Oh well, the things we do for love............LDP

FedEx
07-27-06, 01:33
LDP,

Great observation - this has never crossed my mind!

Fedex



Been watching this for a while and it only surprises me that they let it go on as long as they have. You can't do this sort of thing where da' white folks live. Zoning is all it is. Oxnard and Ventura are OK for the sport but not T.O., Camarillo, Westlake Village, Moorpark, etc as there are too many porky's out there that don't want their men folk to get any ideas. They have too much to lose if the old iron grip is to be challenged. So they make a campain (misspelling intended) of phone call complaints to the sheriff and PD and probably city councilmen being a general pain in the ass. It is not in these type of women to just leave it alone since they get off on control at all levels.
Would not surprise me at all if the next to go is Simi. Granted it is a blue collar town too but way too white and just a tiny bit too upscale. That means my favorite places in Oxnard and Ventura are going to get crowded and expensive again. Oh well, the things we do for love............LDP

Hobby knob
07-28-06, 13:25
Ok, so the Cowboys got into town yesterday and practice starts Saturday.

Doe this mean our AMP's will be busy tonight? There aren't a lot of incall and outcall girls up here.

or......

Do we have girls come into town just for "training Camp". It ends on the 20th.

if any body has any ideas, or knows any talent that comes up our way, let me know.

Of course the players make a little more money than I and I probably can't afford the talent that would come up, but....

It was worth a shot.

Foreplay
07-28-06, 15:15
I just can't seem to pass up the above even though when I start out I am on my way to Ospa. It seems I wind up at the above. Yesterday stopped there and thought I would try Hannah again thinking it was who the mms had said was working. Turns out to be a new lady but had to be in her 40's. Not to say she wasn't eager to please because she was eager but she was a little worn and very chatty. If this interests you pm me and I willshare the name.

Phillippe
07-29-06, 00:01
Anyone know why June has been closed for 3 days? For that matter, several of my favorite ladies seem to be on 'vacation'. Hmmm.

The Cowboys are fags.

Hobby knob
07-29-06, 02:16
Anyone know why June has been closed for 3 days? For that matter, several of my favorite ladies seem to be on 'vacation'. Hmmm.

The Cowboys are fags.

June seems to do that every once and a while. I never know what time of day they open either.

Also, The 49's are fags. The Cowboys just suck.

Gopherit
07-29-06, 12:53
Regards to Foreplay's report on stm. There's two girls there with similiar names. Hana and "Hanako" I was in there last Tuesday and got the latter. You're right about the age. I'd even say 40ish with emphasis on the "ish". Was very willing to please though! Better than average massage, cbj, mish and finished with doggie. Ended up pulling off the sock and making a little mess on the back side. She didn't seem to mind :) Too bad I live sooo far away though. I only get to indulge in the sport in the nard once in a while. These gas prices are a killer... I live in the northern AV. Even though I have, I don't care to do much "sporting" in my back yard. Unfortunately do to personal restrictions, I don't get to get out on the prowl much and I end up taking more than giving with the reports. BUT, when I do from now on, I promise to share more so I can hopefully "even the books a little".

Happy mongering fellas!

Rubberband Man
07-29-06, 19:13
i know most of the providers in oxnard are of asian ethnicity, specifically chinese or korean. I'm not really into the asian thing. I like more of the latina style like TJ girls. Can anyone recommend amp's that have latina working girls? and recommend any?

Thanks,

Monger4Life

Rubber

Friendly Tiger
07-30-06, 00:08
Can anyone recommend amp's that have latina working girls?check Ventura Star hardcopy or on line.

Hobby knob
07-30-06, 00:10
check Ventura Star hardcopy or on line.

Or just read this forum!

Spank Me
07-31-06, 03:56
So why did the Star Free Press remove the articles about the busts from their website? What kind of conspiracy is that?

Big Hick
08-02-06, 23:48
I went to A1 and tipped the usual $60 for FS. For the first time the girl asked for more money. When I said that is all I had, she said bring more next time.

I'm not a regular at A1, is this normal?

Phillippe
08-03-06, 05:05
If anyone knows about Jun (closed for 1.5 weeks), or knows the owner etc, please PM me.

Big Hick
08-05-06, 12:30
One of the girls that work there told me that the owners went to Korea for a vacation. They'll be back.

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-06-06, 10:47
Made my first visit here yesterday afternoon and I have to tell you it was everything I've read about. Soonye was wonderful.

I've given up on the Conejo valley and have a couple of good places in the SFV but will sure add this to my list of sure things.

Mike

Gopherit
08-06-06, 22:49
It seems that here in the AV we also have a few AMP's that "went on vacation" here recently. Hmmmmm.

Big Hick
08-08-06, 00:20
Most of the rest of the world takes off in August. I work for a European company and almost everyone at the head office is out.

I don't think anything is up, especially in Oxnard. There seems to be an understanding up there. Plus there are bigger fish to fry in Oxnard.

Phillippe
08-08-06, 03:13
Just heard of an Oxnard sweep. I don't think it was just a city license check, it involved INS too I think. Anyone with details at other place PM me.

Hobby knob
08-08-06, 12:17
Just heard of an Oxnard sweep. I don't think it was just a city license check, it involved INS too I think. Anyone with details at other place PM me.

Don't know, but they did a big INS crackdown about 2 or 3 years ago. There were Johns in the place. A little harrassing then, but no arrests of the johns. Scared the SH*T out of the women. I was at St.Marys the day after it happened and the girl was very scared. She knew me from before and gave me all the details.

Biggest problem was they were scared so they got rid of all the covers. I got a BBBJTC she offered BBFS but I don't do that. Instead of making the community "safer" they put us more "at risk"

Phillippe
08-08-06, 13:43
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08-09-06, 02:40
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08-09-06, 10:40
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Admin
08-10-06, 16:39
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-13-06, 20:22
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I just had a great session with the famous Tanya. What a great gal that gives great service. When she started AR I thought I would die. She really went after it.

Managed to get her let me take a photo. Not much but it's a start.

Mike
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Tsboy69
08-14-06, 04:42
Not really her best side, but it is a start.

She does give good service......

Hobby knob
08-15-06, 17:38
Not really her best side, but it is a start.

She does give good service......

Does anybody know if Helen from Wagon Wheel went to the new place. I would just call them, but they used to lie on the phone just to get you down there in the past.

Phillippe
08-16-06, 02:56
I had to chuckle at a fellow monger's Honda Insight in the AMP parking lot today. One AMP visit wiped out about a year's worth of gas savings that that car provides

Zacharias
08-16-06, 16:12
I had to chuckle at a fellow monger's Honda Insight in the AMP parking lot today. One AMP visit wiped out about a year's worth of gas savings that that car providesI don't find it surprising at all. Mongering is definitely one of the more environmentally friendly activities you can do. Plus it cuts down on the level of stress in the world and stimulates the economy(among other things).

It also could be a great sales pitch. Car salesman to prospective Prius buyer: "and with the money you'll save on gas you can get your oil changed for free."<wink wink>

Z

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-21-06, 11:05
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Went there on Sunday evening and got Cici. She sure is not up to the same service as Tanya or Soonye. She wouldn't even take off her cloths, just bunched them around her middle. What a let down. Sure won't see her again.

Mike

Big Hick
08-21-06, 20:47
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Went there on Sunday evening and got Cici. She sure is not up to the same service as Tanya or Soonye. She wouldn't even take off her cloths, just bunched them around her middle. What a let down. Sure won't see her again.

Mike

Did Cici have long hair and in her 20's with a spinner body/cute face? If it is, I've seen her at a couple of other places and service was pretty good. However I haven't seen her in a while and heard that she went back to Korea.

Thanks.

Phillippe
08-22-06, 00:00
Totally different Cici.

Note that 'Cici' is one of the top 10 Americanized Korean names

Eg: Coco, Jenny, Kim, Sunny, Sherry, Sophia, Tanya, etc

If you look at the other forums for other cities, it's these same names over and over again.

ReallyaNiceGuy
08-22-06, 00:24
Did Cici have long hair and in her 20's with a spinner body/cute face? If it is, I've seen her at a couple of other places and service was pretty good. However I haven't seen her in a while and heard that she went back to Korea.

Thanks.

:
No, I think it was her mother.

Mike

Hobby knob
08-22-06, 00:53
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No, I think it was her mother.

Mike

HAHAHAHAHAHA

LMFAO

Snail Trail
08-24-06, 00:35
Hello Fellow Mongers,

I was in the VC for a couple of days, and have things changed! Thank you all for the updates on the Conejo raids. I too had a few "free tenth visit" cards myself. I think that this being an election year for Thousand Oaks, current incumbents in City Hall and the Sheriff's office probably wanted to boost their poll positions.

Ok, since the Wheel moved, and I couldn't figure out from the posts where to, I hit up GT on the other side of the 101. Saw Jeannie, and found out her name is really Jin Yi; 60 for 45 because she always gives GFE. Immediately out of the shower, and before I could lie on the bed, she came into the room, stroked my mini me, and it was RCG, Dawgie and Mish. So now that I blew my load, I got a real massage complete with hot wet towels and her 110 lb frame stepping on my shoulders and upper back. I have to admit, that was really nice, and I would have left with a nice smile on my face, but then she told me to turn around...which I did...

To my surprise, she finised me off with a cbj, and nice wipe up with a hot towel mixed with water and rubbing alcohol. Tipped 70 (gave her my 10 spot for lunch), zipped up, and was smiling from ear to ear.

Next night, I hit up A-1. Got my usual Chicana provider, fakeys, blond streaks, says she is a make up artist by day and only works one night a week at A-1. I forgot her name, but others have posted about her here on the boards. After a simulated massage consisting of her just rubbing her hands softly on my back, shoulders and a--, told me to turn over, and did me CG. Started off going 100 miles an hour, told her to slow down, but she still was going too fast for me, so I put her on her back, grabbed her ankles and put her in the buck.

The weird thing was that when I released, she asked if I was "finishing up". I told her yes, and she pushed me off her, saying something to the extent that "they (the providers)" don't know who they are servicing and that what I did is dangerous to them because the condom might leak, spill into them and cause disease. Ok, let me reiterate: condom might leak. In all my sessions, when there is FS, it's always with a condom and I have never been told to pull out before the finish. It was 40 for 30 and I tipped 60, only to get a sigh from her as if I had undertipped! Wow, that really caught me off guard.

Today I did try to go to the OHC at TO, but saw a police car parked in the side lot adjacent to the Center. I debated whether or not to just go, as I really wanted to see either Vicki or Lucy, two of my favorite providers there, but thought better of it, and decided to pass.

Foreplay
08-25-06, 01:08
Hey guys,

I never learn. I dropped by the above referenced and wound up with Haniko. God is she old and experienced. Emphasis on both. Boom Boom long time talk was to much. Took forever to get off. Finally pulled off the glove and gave me bbcim. Walked away disgusted with myself.

Foreplay
08-30-06, 20:44
Well today I managed to drive past StM and proceeded to head towards the O and passed that as well. I wound up infront of A1 and walked in. The mms was abrupt and not very talkative, she grabbed the money and shuttled into one of their many rooms. I asked for J but she wasn't there. A very curvaeous big breasted young latina walked in. Happy, talkative, very pleasant young woman. If you would like more info pm me.

Hobby knob
09-01-06, 00:54
Went to OSpa on Wednesday A.M. Saw Tanya. Usual great time. On the way out another Monger and I entered the hallway at the same time. Some panic words were said in Korean and the other guy was whisked back into the room. In the Parking lot, we ran into each other again as we parked right next to each other. Was it any of you guys?

BTW, it is nice they care about our discretion.

Spank Me
09-01-06, 03:12
Well today I managed to drive past StM and proceeded to head towards the O and passed that as well. I wound up infront of A1 and walked in. The mms was abrupt and not very talkative, she grabbed the money and shuttled into one of their many rooms. I asked for J but she wasn't there. A very curvaeous big breasted young latina walked in. Happy, talkative, very pleasant young woman. If you would like more info pm me.If you're talking about "are", I love her attitude. And her big breasts. Gives a BJ like a gf would; -) Another latina, "A", is sadly lacking in enthusiasim.

But I've got a question about A1 --- Why do they leave the room once they get you all 'ready' - can't they just come in prepared? Or at least cover me with a towel before they open the door! Makes me wonder why I don't just stick to the fantastic service at O.

Spank Me
09-01-06, 03:21
Hey,

Has anybody seen Vicky formerly from the busted to place? She's the only one that could ever give a real massage. I miss that! Lemme know if you spot her anywhere please!

Gudel
09-03-06, 20:18
I've marked A1 as a place under no circumstances to repeat visit ever again. A while back I had a latina named Mary with big breasts, it was okay. Later I had asian, that wasn't very good. They all negotiate first which I don't like this. So who is this "are" in A1? Though it sounds good, I have some reservation going to this place again.

I went to St.M the other day. Mamasan made me wait, said "5 minutes". I'm not stupid, usually when they say 5 minutes, it's gonna take 30 minutes. I decided to leave and ask my money back.
Also mongers, if you're in St.M, you can see the room next to you through the heater hole. I was able to see the two girls that were working that day, not really attractive.

Where has WW gone to? Do they still have the $10 off coupon?

Zacharias
09-04-06, 14:29
Saw Tonya Saturday early evening. Got the usual A/R and attention to the feet. Her service as always was great but I don't find her all that sexy. Maybe back in the day she was a hottie but now her massage skills and attention are her main selling points.

Z

Foreplay
09-04-06, 15:07
I just got off the phone with the mms at stm and she is a c--t. Once she came out into the parking lot and checked out my car and said I could afford to pay more for entryl. Funny. She is funny, she hangs up on me every time I call. The selection there has really gone down hill. She has Hanniko and Angie it seems 24/7. And yeah you can see through the heater into the next room if you are interested.

Big Hick
09-05-06, 10:55
I agree with Foreplay's opinion of A1. I don't like the attitude of the girls and the tip negotiation is really a turn off. I usually tip between $60-$80 for FS and that is more than fair for the Oxnard market.

I woud avoid it if you have other options.

Hobby knob
09-05-06, 19:46
Any fans of hers? I found her today.

PM me if you know her and want the contact ifo.

Czech Monger
09-05-06, 20:39
I have reviewed many of the postings and there are a lot of postings where not to go. I am in town for 2 days, where is a great place to monger?

ReallyaNiceGuy
09-05-06, 23:09
I was there yesterday and made a point to ask NOT to see CiCi. I got Sherry instead, it was an OK time.

But on the way home I was thinking about it and decided that I was measuring all the girls there against Tanya and that wasn't fair.

I had a great time, Sherry was a lot of fun. She said she works Monday thru Thursday. Said she was 28, yea right, but nice looking and a great body.

During the session she did make comments about me taking good care of her. On the way out I gave her the standard 80 but she wanted more. I told her that is what I always pay but she asked for holiday pay. Gave her 10 just to keep her quiet.

Maybe I should have taken CiCi after all.

Mike

Hobby knob
09-06-06, 00:06
I was there yesterday and made a point to ask NOT to see CiCi. I got Sherry instead, it was an OK time.

But on the way home I was thinking about it and decided that I was measuring all the girls there against Tanya and that wasn't fair.

I had a great time, Sherry was a lot of fun. She said she works Monday thru Thursday. Said she was 28, yea right, but nice looking and a great body.

During the session she did make comments about me taking good care of her. On the way out I gave her the standard 80 but she wanted more. I told her that is what I always pay but she asked for holiday pay. Gave her 10 just to keep her quiet.

Maybe I should have taken CiCi after all.

Mike
Yeah, we get spoiled with all the talent we have out here.

Comparing them is like saying Magic Johnson Sucked because he was not Michael Jordan.

Foreplay
09-06-06, 00:46
I was hankering for Ospa but was feeling a bit lazy and instead of turning left I went right. Got "J" and was pleasantly surprised on the total package. Nice natural rack and lovely long slender legs (for a K girl). She definitely pleased me. Hey how many posts get you senior membership?

Ekopekop
09-07-06, 12:14
Hello Fellow Mongers,

Ok, since the Wheel moved, and I couldn't figure out from the posts where to.Their ad in the paper says that they are sharing space @ Nicoles.

Nice lady (forgot her name) with falsies and great service said that is where they moved to when WW lost their lease.

Hobby knob
09-14-06, 13:41
Had a decent time with Coco at Victorias today. Attractive with decent natural body.

No GFE, but a nice time anyway.

Newt
09-15-06, 16:35
Alright, I don't expect much of a reply with the lack of reporting on my part but I'm gonna try anyway. For a long time now I have been reading the posts but not contributing to the board. In my dreams I was a frequent visitor of the "Health Center" on T. O. Blvd which is now, unfortunately, out of business. For those of you who need more specifics names like Lucy, Linda, Vicky and Cindy should ring a bell. I am looking to stay in the Conejo valley area and would love some advice if any would be available. I am not a newbie and have been in the game for some time. I am just one of those who prefer to stay under the radar. I used to visit Ospa in Oxnard but prefer to stay safer now. I met the legendary Tanya 6 years ago for a couple of enjoyable visits but now pretty much stick to the happy ending and occasional CBJ. That's all I want and I don't want any temptations to do more at the places that offer more than that option as I am by nature a dog and would probably make the mistake if it were available. If anybody has any advice I would appreciate it but no worries if not. I will take a few risks in Simi if I don't have any sure fire hits from this post. This is all a fantasy and of course none of this ever happened.

Thanks all,

Newt

Wander4fun
09-19-06, 19:03
Newt, I am very much like yourself and like to stay close to home here in Simi.
Most of the AMP's provide a happy ending, and some are happier than others. FS is available, but for the most part you pay more here than in the Nard (the expect $20 to $40 more). Most of the providers here are a bit on the older side, so don't expect too many gals in their 20's. There are a couple that are almost impossible to get even a happy ending from (Pacific Spa and Thai Spa) are both very stingy in teasing the little guy. So, no matter how hard I try they usually don't budge but still expect a tip for a massage that doesn't leave a longer smile.

Bottom line, the best service by far is still in the Nard. I treat myself occasionally, but I hate to make the long drive because the little guy is craving a bit more.

Good luck, and if you do happen to hear of anything more favorable in the area, please share the intel.

Pcgnv170
09-21-06, 03:31
Though I don't post much, I've been cruising the main street for years now and about hit every place there is to go (Tonya's extra attention is great, 1435 used to be better, found out that WW moved AFTER they started shipping in the bigguns by the ice rink, etc...). Anyway, I've never had a good recommendation toward a GOOD LOOKING latina chick at A-1's. Every time I get one its the same fat broad who bitches about the .8 afterward. Any straight up advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers

LuvDaPuss
10-02-06, 20:06
Had a good time at St. Mary's Saturday with Coco. Tall girl with nice natural B's, B- massage, works hard at making you happy on the full service end of things. Overall a decent experience and will go back. Gave .6 + .8 at which point she told me her name. That is their way of saying they are happy and want you to come back.

Hobby knob
10-03-06, 01:13
Had a good time at St. Mary's Saturday with Coco. Tall girl with nice natural B's, B- massage, works hard at making you happy on the full service end of things. Overall a decent experience and will go back. Gave .6 + .8 at which point she told me her name. That is their way of saying they are happy and want you to come back.


I know three Cocos Now. its funny, I remember in the 90's, a lot of the girls used the names from the show friends.. Monica, Phobe, Rachel. Now I guess its just repeaters.

Coco, CeCe, DeDe, Bebe....

Phillippe
10-03-06, 06:01
I prefer Macaca

Foreplay
10-03-06, 20:28
I passed by Jun last week and the front door was posted with an eviction notice. I am sure that that is probably the last of Jun and young the providers that I occasionally enjoyed.

ReallyaNiceGuy
10-04-06, 00:01
:
I saw one in Pasadena named LuLu.
Two in the SFV named Shaw Shaw, one Chinese and one Korean.
And I saw one on Sunday, for the third time, in the SFV named CeCe, Chinese.

I'm getting so confused!

Mike

Hobby knob
10-04-06, 00:24
:
I saw one in Pasadena named LuLu.
Two in the SFV named Shaw Shaw, one Chinese and one Korean.
And I saw one on Sunday, for the third time, in the SFV named CeCe, Chinese.

I'm getting so confused!

Mike

If they ask your name say Mike Mike

Foreplay
10-04-06, 19:39
Checked out Tina. Very accomodating and an incredible massage. Anyway you look at it, all fun.

LuvDaPuss
10-05-06, 20:33
Sounds cool. I have to check out TinaTina this weekend.........LDP LDP

Gopherit
10-06-06, 18:38
Was in the Nard area last week and was looking foward to a good massage with extras. Used to go to STM when I'd be in town, but just doesn't seem to be the place to go anymore. Too hit and miss, especially as far as I travel. Last time I was there some months back, mamasan was pretty looped. Saw "Suzie" at the mission and she remembered me from a previous visit. Massage was okay. BBBJ, put on a sock, mish and finished doggie. 6 at the door. (since I travel so far, I like to go for 45min). 6 tip. All in all a good visit. I do need to keep a better mental log of who I see though. I was kinda hoping to have a new provider. Oh well. Funny thing was I wanted to get a good legit massage first, so I stopped in Simi Valley and went to a Thai massage. Older ladies, but great massage! Keep it safe out there fellas and happy mongering.

Conejo Joe
10-06-06, 21:21
It still hasn't recovered in the area. Tried the place on LA ave, just a massage and goodbye.

Chief69
10-07-06, 09:45
It's my opinion that the Oxnard scene has slowed down and that it's more difficult for the operators to get younger providers to commute from K-town to the area. I wonder what you all think? Except for O Spa, I haven't been anywhere in the last several months. I don't think anyone has ever done a comparison survey of all the places out there: either they are so unremarkable or offer so little consistently we never hear about them. Places I haven't heard about are the one on Deodar, very little on Mission, Nothing on the place by the laundromat as you leave Oxnard (just across the tracks), nothing on Tokyo, almost never on Sun. The only ones we talk about are A-1, StM, O spa, etc..

Just my two cents.. Has everyone gone recently to an under-reported one?

Chief

Kudlow
10-07-06, 11:20
It's my opinion that the Oxnard scene has slowed down and that it's more difficult for the operators to get younger providers to commute from K-town to the area. I wonder what you all think? Except for O Spa, I haven't been anywhere in the last several months. I don't think anyone has ever done a comparison survey of all the places out there: either they are so unremarkable or offer so little consistently we never hear about them. Places I haven't heard about are the one on Deodar, very little on Mission, Nothing on the place by the laundromat as you leave Oxnard (just across the tracks), nothing on Tokyo, almost never on Sun. The only ones we talk about are A-1, StM, O spa, etc..

Just my two cents.. Has everyone gone recently to an under-reported one?

ChiefI'm from OC and usually drop by OA when I go fishing. But it has been at least a year since I went fishing, so at least a year for OA. While it's less expensive than OC, I only received outstanding service once.

Hobby knob
10-08-06, 12:26
It's my opinion that the Oxnard scene has slowed down and that it's more difficult for the operators to get younger providers to commute from K-town to the area. I wonder what you all think? Except for O Spa, I haven't been anywhere in the last several months. I don't think anyone has ever done a comparison survey of all the places out there: either they are so unremarkable or offer so little consistently we never hear about them. Places I haven't heard about are the one on Deodar, very little on Mission, Nothing on the place by the laundromat as you leave Oxnard (just across the tracks), nothing on Tokyo, almost never on Sun. The only ones we talk about are A-1, StM, O spa, etc..

Just my two cents.. Has everyone gone recently to an under-reported one?


Chief
Been to all within the past year. Deodar is hit and miss. Some pretty good, some not so good. See post about coco a few weeks back (place is named Victorias). Mission has never been that good either. The place by the laundromat both times had a 50something Fat woman who gave BJ like a jack rabbit. Tokyo has had some decent tmes just not up to par with OSpa. and sun...well I have NEVER had a girl under 50 at suns. I went once last year even I knew I shud not, and was just plain bad.

Thats my 2 cents worth. only victorias and maybe Tokyo if your lucky are worth a shot. (then again I am not a fan of St. Marys. Just convient location)


I Know someone may have different experiences, but with all the competition in the nard, they need to be more consistent. I find only a few are that way.

FedEx
10-08-06, 14:33
Hobby Knob,

You're just the King of the 'Nard...

Just a little warning for everyone:
StM had a report about a year ago about most providers offering BBFS and I was offered that, too on my first and only visit there. One board member - who frequented that place and did some of those girls - caught something from them. I immediately crossed out that place from my list and never considered them again as a place to have fun.

Just my 2.5 cents,
Fedex



Been to all within the past year. Deodar is hit and miss. Some pretty good, some not so good. See post about coco a few weeks back (place is named Victorias). Mission has never been that good either. The place by the laundromat both times had a 50something Fat woman who gave BJ like a jack rabbit. Tokyo has had some decent tmes just not up to par with OSpa. and sun...well I have NEVER had a girl under 50 at suns. I went once last year even I knew I shud not, and was just plain bad.

Thats my 2 cents worth. only victorias and maybe Tokyo if your lucky are worth a shot. (then again I am not a fan of St. Marys. Just convient location)


I Know someone may have different experiences, but with all the competition in the nard, they need to be more consistent. I find only a few are that way.

Foreplay
10-09-06, 01:17
I just had a very disappointing experience. Went looking for J but had to take her thick waisted older sister. She tried but lacked esprit. Just couldn't get a rocket launch it was so unattractive. Gave her a jackson as the last place prize money and she threw it on the floor. Too bad now she didn't get jack let alone jackson.

Gorillafyst
10-09-06, 15:17
Hey fellas,

I will be in town at the Naval Base for a few days. Looking for a nice place to relax after my flight from Hawaii.

Phillippe
10-09-06, 22:17
I recommend Mandalay beach.


Hey fellas,

I will be in town at the Naval Base for a few days. Looking for a nice place to relax after my flight from Hawaii.

Hobby knob
10-10-06, 01:47
Had my second try at soonie today. the first time (a while back) was pretty decent, but I wasnt as impressed as the other reports.

Well.....I take it all back.

She does rock!

Zacharias
10-12-06, 13:59
Called yesterday and asked for Coco. She was ready when I arrived. She's definitely one of the better providers out there. Enthusiastic, has some massage skills and looks nice to boot. Two thumbs up for Coco.

Z

Oh, and someone was in the next room but you can't really see through the heater since they taped it up.

AsianEater
10-13-06, 01:55
I took a chance and visited O Accu at Saviers and Bard Rd on Wed. To my surprise I got a very attractive japanese girl named Diana. She had a pretty face very nice perky tits,nice legs, ass and the nicest pussy. Not a GFE experience but, she could take a pounding and seemed to enjoy herself. Would not take a penny less than 80 for f/s but I thought she was worth it especially when I saw that pretty pussy... She said she works tue- fri. Enjoy.

P.S. Can anyone recommend a nice Latina girl? I'd like a little variety.

Lifted Rides
10-13-06, 03:33
Late report. Couple weeks ago visited the above and had a new girl, I think named Joey. Very awkward,she wasn't quite sure what to do and how far. It felt like it was her first time working. Nice tits natural. We finally worked out the mechanics and launched into the blue. Mamasan looks as always a little out of it and mean. She did however accept $40 instead of $50. She by now is probably a pro and will make you feel like a million.Where is STM? Can't seem to find it.

Tsboy69
10-13-06, 05:18
Hey fellas,

I will be in town at the Naval Base for a few days. Looking for a nice place to relax after my flight from Hawaii.


Gfyst,

RTFF..

Phillippe
10-13-06, 19:40
I'm pretty sure Dianne at Oacc is the same one who was fired from Ospa for demanding too much money. Can anyone verify this for me?

BTW, how fitting that she would go to work there. That place is as bad as it's ever been warned to be on this board. They have a permanent security guard there now at night, probably after the 50th customer threatened to knock someone's face in.

I use to go there when my favorite girl started working there. Like three different times customers would ague with the mamasan. She's not a drunk like the StM mama, but she is a nastier bich. Another thing with that place, they have an absolute disregard for privacy, having multiple customers bumping into eachother, etc

I saw Dianne there as well. She looks real good and is nice, but no skills. Lousy BJ, she's quite loose, and can't even do a proper HJ. She is completely safe, as far as protection.

Gorillafyst
10-15-06, 06:35
Wandered into Ospa and had Sherry or Cherry, bad english, anyway looks: 6 she said she was 31, looks mor like 41. Massage 3 her massage skills needs some serious help. On the flip asked if i would like more said yeah and she gave cbj. That i will give an 8.5 the gagging was good. Ended up finishing that way wanted to see if she could take it all. Came close then gagged and stopped. She is very chatty. Overall decent experience. .50 to get in $ tip for the gagging effort. The AMP's are better in Hawaii, younger girls.

Have fun stay safe,

Aloha

Gudel
10-17-06, 00:00
I don't see too many reports about this place. So I went there early in the evening. Mamasan opened the door, showed me to a room. After about five minutes, she comes in, the mamasan! Good god man, she must've been in late 40's - early 50's. I just couldn't launch my jizz loaded nuclear missile. It was forty to get in, didn't leave a tip.
I went to Victoria in Deodar, well, this wasn't so good either, embarassed to say that I fucked a whale. Gentlemen, I took one for the team.

I think I've visited every AMP in Oxnard, I need some fresh pussies.

Pizzaman
10-17-06, 01:09
Wandered into Ospa and had Sherry or Cherry, bad english, anyway looks: 6 she said she was 31, looks mor like 41. Massage 3 her massage skills needs some serious help. On the flip asked if i would like more said yeah and she gave cbj. That i will give an 8.5 the gagging was good. Ended up finishing that way wanted to see if she could take it all. Came close then gagged and stopped. She is very chatty. Overall decent experience. .50 to get in $ tip for the gagging effort. The AMP's are better in Hawaii, younger girls.

Have fun stay safe,

Aloha

Dude:

Tip way too much. Ruining it for the rest of us. FS is around .6

M Smiles
10-17-06, 01:21
If your looking for bad attitudes and a crappy time, try A-1 Spa. I will never go to this place. If you feel like getting into a bad mood try A-1 Spa. Seriously lets boycott this place together cuz it really sucks.

My 2.5 cents.

Hobby knob
10-17-06, 02:05
It that near the railroad tracks by the laundromat?

If it is, you should have read my post last week!


I don't see too many reports about this place. So I went there early in the evening. Mamasan opened the door, showed me to a room. After about five minutes, she comes in, the mamasan! Good god man, she must've been in late 40's - early 50's. I just couldn't launch my jizz loaded nuclear missile. It was forty to get in, didn't leave a tip.
I went to Victoria in Deodar, well, this wasn't so good either, embarassed to say that I fucked a whale. Gentlemen, I took one for the team.

I think I've visited every AMP in Oxnard, I need some fresh pussies.

Zacharias
10-17-06, 13:12
Wandered into Ospa and had Sherry or Cherry, bad english, anyway looks: 6 she said she was 31, looks mor like 41. Massage 3 her massage skills needs some serious help. On the flip asked if i would like more said yeah and she gave cbj. That i will give an 8.5 the gagging was good. Ended up finishing that way wanted to see if she could take it all. Came close then gagged and stopped. She is very chatty. Overall decent experience. .50 to get in $ tip for the gagging effort. The AMP's are better in Hawaii, younger girls.

AlohaI always tip $60 unless the service is exceptional, then I'll go to $70 -$80. It has to be memorable to warrant that much though. Tipping $ in the Nard is just contributing to inflation.

Z

Gorillafyst
10-19-06, 00:44
I always tip $60 unless the service is exceptional, then I'll go to $70 -$80. It has to be memorable to warrant that much though. Tipping $ in the Nard is just contributing to inflation.

ZSorry dude definately do not want to mess it up for the fellow mongers. Just travelling through the area. I guess I a accustomed to Hawaii prices. I will remember on my next trip.

Aloha

Uphill64
10-22-06, 01:13
Came to Oxnard last week. I have been to A-1, Tokyo, and St mary's in the past year. Trips always happened on Mon/Tues when Tonya at O-spa was off.

Finally, this trip was Wed/Thurs. I called ahead Wed night, Tonya availble come soon we close 11pm. I got there 10:10, paid for 1/2 hr session. Over the next 40 min Tonya gave an awesome massage, every inch of the body. All the other girls become a blur after a Tonya session! She is a master at what she does.

Uphill

LuvDaPuss
10-23-06, 21:10
Had a session with Sue at GT. Did not expect too much as she is perhaps a 5 at best. I should know better than to dismiss without sampling, as she was truly a credit to the profession. So often the 4-5-6's try harder and truly succeed at giving a great experience. Sue is typical of this. Gave me a great massage and then started in with the gentle tease that led to CG, canine and mish then kabloohey!! And a very nice person to boot. Never asked for anything up front, which I hate but understand. Wanted to give her just .6 but felt like a smuck if I didn't come across with at least .8. To get a cheap bastard like me to shell out extra means she is extraordinary...........LDP

Tsboy69
10-24-06, 04:21
Had a session with Sue at GT. Did not expect too much as she is perhaps a 5 at best. I should know better than to dismiss without sampling, as she was truly a credit to the profession. So often the 4-5-6's try harder and truly succeed at giving a great experience. Sue is typical of this. Gave me a great massage and then started in with the gentle tease that led to CG, canine and mish then kabloohey!! And a very nice person to boot. Never asked for anything up front, which I hate but understand. Wanted to give her just .6 but felt like a smuck if I didn't come across with at least .8. To get a cheap bastard like me to shell out extra means she is extraordinary...........LDP


There was one woman there, maybe it was Sue at least three years back that was always easy-going. A little older (early 40's) and pretty attractive. It has been years since I had been back...Has this Sue been there long?

At my age, I prefer the middle of the roads - they try harder.

Gudel
10-24-06, 05:13
It that near the railroad tracks by the laundromat?

If it is, you should have read my post last week!


Yeah I think it was by the laundromat. Mamasan got some big tits, but a little too old for me.
I'm looking for a place where the providers have some big titties :D So far I haven't found any place. I have to try WW/Nicole next.

Big Hick
10-31-06, 02:50
If your looking for bad attitudes and a crappy time, try A-1 Spa. I will never go to this place. If you feel like getting into a bad mood try A-1 Spa. Seriously lets boycott this place together cuz it really sucks.

My 2.5 cents.


I don't plan to go to A1 anytime soon. The last time I went there was such a turn off that I might have to take my money somewhere else in SoCal.

Phillippe
10-31-06, 14:39
I've always preferreda woman somewhat older. I never understood the 'barely legal' stuff. Even when I was 10 yrs old, my idea would be a woman around 30-35. And, a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman. For example, I think Kim Basinger is over 50. Would you not do her?

I have a MILF fantasy where a woman calls me "little boy". As were doing it, she turns around and says "comeon little boy, you can do it" There is no lack of providers in Oxnard not to live this fantasy. The problem is, this can be very rude to ask for. Especially seeing how half of these woman attempt to lie, and slash their age by as much as 20 years

Anyone else do anything else similiar to how I describe?


There was one woman there, maybe it was Sue at least three years back that was always easy-going. A little older (early 40's) and pretty attractive. It has been years since I had been back...Has this Sue been there long?

At my age, I prefer the middle of the roads - they try harder.

Oxn Patrolman
10-31-06, 19:04
How you doin' all you Oxnard mongers. I just happen to know ALL the Oxnard spots and let me tell you Jeanne at the Golden Touch (on Vineyard, across from the Jack in the box) happens to be the very best. If this gal just knew what I do for a living she would not treat me the ways she does. She's always happy to see me. When she comes in the room she walks over to me, gets next to me and starts kissing me all over. She immediately takes her clothes off and starts massaging me very lightly. She takes her tongue and licks me all the way up my legs and stops at my ass. She begins to encircle my hole with her tongue then lightly starts on my balls. Oh man, this gal is my lady. I love her. Once we do the flip she starts biting my nipples then runs her tongue down to my dick, who by now is at attention. BARBACK BABY! Oh my gosh this woman drives me wild.

By the time we get down to FS, I have little left in me and I explode in the condom she has put on me. Oh wow! She examines my load, shows me and tells me she wants to save it. I had the rest. Jeanne is the BEST.

Friendly Tiger
11-01-06, 11:12
...I explode in the condom she has put on me. Oh wow! She examines my load, shows me and tells me she wants to save it.Careful, my friend. Maybe she likes you tooooo much. ;)

Asiangreeklvr
11-01-06, 12:10
Dude, you really should change your name. You might make some people here very nervous. Also, supposedly, what we call "LE" - monitors this board, could your ip address be tracked to you? I really don't know, but for the sake of your job, you may want to re-register and be just a tad more inconspicous. Just a tad. I have read posts from this board all over the country, and never have I seen an openly admitting officer of the law, posting. Be careful.

Asiangreeklvr
11-01-06, 12:12
There are a few places that we haven't seen reports from for some time. Has anyone been to any of these recently? Time to toftt? If I were to do that - which one would I go to?

Massage 2
11-03-06, 21:34
Thanks to past reports about AMP, Golden Touch, I went there yesterday afternoon. The last time I was there was about 6 months after the Golden Touch 1st opened for business.The women, services, & prices have changed, but little else.

Yesterday, I saw Sue. She was a breath of fresh air for me. She was comfortable in herself and services. That we both enjoyed your time. It is nice to go to a AMP and not be pressed to hurry up or asked for bigger tips. Sue and I enjoyed a short massage of kissing each others body fully. Then I got a starter CBJ and we finished up with doggie FS.

For this old man, Sue is a women of comfort with no fake parts and no in a rush. If my next meeting is as enjoyable, I may become a regular of hers. But I am still looking for Maria from Myako (worked for Sandy, old owner) and for Hana from Wagon Wheel.

So guys thanks for the past reports.

Fish Hunter
11-04-06, 10:20
Stay away from this place, they are all mechanical and rush. they will push you out in 10 minutes if they can. I hear they want .6 for a bg and then she complains "c'mon you need to try harder" after 5 minutes. STAY AWAY and SAVE your money for better place that at least pretends to care.

Happy Fish'n

Conejo Joe
11-08-06, 19:29
Found a new small place 40 hhr + 40 hj. She was asian, 40-50, a little overweight. I'd give her a 4, but at least its something in the area.

Since its been slow, PM if you want details.

Friendly Tiger
11-10-06, 10:20
I've been playing mostly in the sfv, but in the future, looks like I'll be spending a lot more time in Ventura county.

Send me a pm if you'd like to exchange 411. :)

Foreplay
11-11-06, 03:37
Almost tommorrow, but I thought I would share my experience of the last hour. Stopped by STM and Jenny was busy so I chose Helen. Well guys, this is the same lady from WW. Very nice body with the bolt ons. She will probably do your hearts desire but very boring. I couldn't get off if my life depended on it. She is not very into it. I remember her from a couple of years ago and nothing has changed.

Friendly Tiger
11-11-06, 12:29
Anyone know where I can pick up a copy of the VC Reporter, in the central or eastern parts of Ventura County?

Gopherit
11-11-06, 21:57
Took the long drive to the Nard on Thursday and was gonna go to the GT, but was busy, so I drove around and tried to avoid stm. The clock was ticking for me, so I decided on conveniance and pulled in to stm's anyway. While taking a shower, I got a chuckle when I saw all the gum still stuck up in the corner. Stuffs been there a long time! The stories that gum could tell if it could talk. Back to the room and in comes Jenny. Been a while since I've stopped in here, so she didn't remember me. Massage was okay. Not much for the store bought chest even though it looks good on her. Gotta hand it to her though, she does know how to get you aroused before the famed "flip". Killer cbj, cg, and went for the big bang doing doggie. All in all not a bad visit. I really would love to look for that diamond in the rough, but driving as far as I have to I tend to stick with the sure thing. .6 at the door for 45 and .6 tip. Glad the gas prices have gone down some :) Stay smart out there.

Friendly Tiger
11-13-06, 10:15
I found a street side newspaper stand in front of Burger King on Newbury Rd, between Borchard & Ventu Park.

It still has tons of ads for incall / outcall ladies.

Conejo Joe
11-13-06, 15:24
This is the list on their site to get started: http://www.vcreporter.com/pickup.php

Friendly Tiger
11-14-06, 09:12
Thanks, CJ. That's a perfect "missing link". ;)

Friendly Tiger
11-17-06, 11:17
Now that I'm spending all my time in Ventura Cty, I decided to take a trip down memory lane.

Years back, my favorite place was on Saviers. So I dropped in and damn, the place looks EXACTLY the same. Even the funky shower, out in the middle of the hallway, although they now have bamboo blinds which are more see-through then I remember. LOL

Met the current mms (I now remember that Sara was mms, years ago). I drew a very attractive early 30's Korean woman. Before she started the massage, there were loud noises outside... Unfortunately, this spooked everyone, so I dressed and we all exchanged apologies and said we look forward to seeing each other soon.

I went to my second favorite mp not far away. This was the first mp I ever visited, so it was another trip down memory lane (sorta like the new TV series, "Day Break", with a hot Eurasian actress!).

Place looks similar buy cleaner/neater than I remember. I drew the last room on the right. I remember drawing the first room on the left, my first time around. This time, a very hot Korean babe walks in. She's got a smart mouth, aka, good at talking back! Loved it.

She gave me a great full massage, not missing any of my stress points. LOL

Phillippe
11-18-06, 14:02
I want to warn everyone something very serious that is going on at OA (Bard Rd) I think they are robbing alot of customers.

I've only been there a few times when one particular girl I knew was working there, and two different times I was there a customer was complaining to mms and creating a huge ruckus.

Now I've talked to two other people who say they witnessed the same thing when THEY went there!

I've never been to A-1, so Bard Rd was the only place in Oxnard who asked for a tip up front.

WARNING. DO NOT EVER TIP UP FRONT. We've been warned this a million times, and it's true. If this happens, just go elsewhere. There are so many options.

Or, if you like, say 'no thanks', just get a 45 minute back massage, and tip nothing. That would really screw them good.

Big Gip
11-20-06, 08:10
I want to warn everyone something very serious that is going on at OA (Bard Rd) I think they are robbing alot of customers.

I've only been there a few times when one particular girl I knew was working there, and two different times I was there a customer was complaining to mms and creating a huge ruckus.

Now I've talked to two other people who say they witnessed the same thing when THEY went there!

I've never been to A-1, so Bard Rd was the only place in Oxnard who asked for a tip up front.

WARNING. DO NOT EVER TIP UP FRONT. We've been warned this a million times, and it's true. If this happens, just go elsewhere. There are so many options.

Or, if you like, say 'no thanks', just get a 45 minute back massage, and tip nothing. That would really screw them good.


Phillippe - Good point. We don't have the same amount/type of posters on this board like we did a few years back. Us 'veteranos" know & understand this point, but to all you newbie's out there, listen up! Don't get taken advantage of. Remember you're in controll. Don't like what's going on, go ahead and bounce.

Oh yeah, don't waste your time at A-1 either. Late!

Foreplay
11-21-06, 03:45
I visited the above and tried Helen. It turned out to be the Helen from the old WW. Too bad. On the surface she looks good plus but the rack feels fake and she really doesnt do very much to turn you on. Was willing to do about anything but not much feeling or acting. It is just a high paying cash job. I remember some of you guys like her but not much fun. Maybe I am getting harder to please. Maybe some of these girls have been at it too long.

Chief69
11-23-06, 00:33
I agree about Sue. I've been with her about 10 times. On the other hand, she doesn't try too hard, so that's a negative. Her massage could be better. What some folks call a relaxed attitude might be called by others apathetic. Still, I'll go back!

Chief69
11-23-06, 01:02
Has anyone seen Maria since she left Myako? Or for that matter, has anyone been there lately? PM me if you have info on contacting M. or about Myako if you want.

The Flatline
11-24-06, 03:50
Now that I'm spending all my time in Ventura Cty, I decided to take a trip down memory lane.

Years back, my favorite place was on Saviers. So I dropped in and damn, the place looks EXACTLY the same. Even the funky shower, out in the middle of the hallway, although they now have bamboo blinds which are more see-through then I remember. LOL

Met the current mms (I now remember that Sara was mms, years ago). I drew a very attractive early 30's Korean woman. Before she started the massage, there were loud noises outside... Unfortunately, this spooked everyone, so I dressed and we all exchanged apologies and said we look forward to seeing each other soon.
I know the place. It was the first AMP I went to, and for a while was the only one I visited. The first time was decent, and I got a good massage out of it, the second time the chick was smoking hot but I guess my package was a little too big for her because the FS only lasted about 8 seconds, and the third time totally put me off of going there. I got harassed by the provider on the way out that I needed to come back and bring more money for her next time (80 wasn't enough apparently). Maya was the provider I think. Been months since I went there.

The shower is way funky. Just shower down before you head out and you should be alright. I'm off to explore other options next time.

Friendly Tiger
11-25-06, 11:28
I went back to the second place I visited the other night, and followed the advice of a friend and picked Soonie.

She was as described: close to FOB, sweet, cute, nice C's, good menu.

I had a great time. Thanks!!! :D

Conejo Joe
11-25-06, 14:09
Found a new small place 40 hhr + 40 hj. She was asian, 40-50, a little overweight. I'd give her a 4, but at least its something in the area.

Since its been slow, PM if you want details.I tried this place again, another woman 40+. Decent massage at least. This place needs some younger blood.

Courtrat
11-27-06, 18:39
Went to Myako & GT. What a waste. Old Korean women with bad attitudes. I'm from L.A. and I thought you guys in Oxnard had it made. Wow what a dissappointment.

Foreplay
11-27-06, 19:29
About a week ago I visited Coco and I have to tell you she is really terrific. She is warm, friendly and attractive. Likes what she does. But best of all she seems to love having fun.

The Flatline
11-28-06, 09:28
Went to Myako & GT. What a waste. Old Korean women with bad attitudes. I'm from L.A. and I thought you guys in Oxnard had it made. Wow what a dissappointment.That really depends on where you go. What's great about the 'nard is that if you don't like your girl, you get the massage, and drive 3 blocks to the next AMP and try your luck again. I've got a little "black book" list stashed away that's up to about 20 AMPs I've culled from research. I'll enter them in regardless of if they're recommended or not, and slap in some quick notes about each one.

My experiences in 'nard have been pretty good. Only one instance to complain about, and I've gotten warnings about that provider now so I won't go back to her any more.

Try it again. Browse the forums or PM me for some ideas, and if you don't like the girl, go someplace else. Better to blow 40 bucks on a half hour massage and then off to another place than 1.20 on FS with some ancient grandma.

Air Cooled
11-28-06, 13:32
About a week ago I visited Coco and I have to tell you she is really terrific. She is warm, friendly and attractive. Likes what she does. But best of all she seems to love having fun.

Hmm. I visited with a Coco in north SB county a couple weeks back. Very enjoyable. Wonder if it was the same one? Not that there couldn't be another Coco -- that never happens!

She mentioned she's normally in LA, perhaps on the Gold Coast tour?

Foreplay
11-30-06, 20:06
Went over to the above to check out J, if she was the girl I had there about 2 months ago. I must have gotten the name incorrectly because I am certain this one wasn't the same. Anyways, today's J was friendly, touchy, game little K girl. A little plump but she had nice equipment. She was ready for anything right out of the gate. Had a good massage and then went in for more. Any questions, send me an I'm.

Big Gip
12-09-06, 22:43
What's up with the socks at Ospa? Anyone know if they've started giving them away yet?

Hobby knob
12-13-06, 10:57
What's up with the socks at Ospa? Anyone know if they've started giving them away yet?

I didn't get any yesterday. Different mamasan. maybe they don't do it anymore.

Phillippe
12-19-06, 02:07
I was going to Hamburger Habit and I noticed a place in that shopping center that I didn't notice before, Han's massage. Anyone think there might be extras available here? It didn't look too seedy, yet it didn't really look 100% like a women's day spa either. And I think its new, and has an unusual name.

The Flatline
12-19-06, 21:00
I was going to Hamburger Habit and I noticed a place in that shopping center that I didn't notice before, Han's massage. Anyone think there might be extras available here? It didn't look too seedy, yet it didn't really look 100% like a women's day spa either. And I think its new, and has an unusual name.A quick google pulled it up in a couple of theraputic licensed massage listings. YMMV, but I'd probably only go in if I was looking to try something new and willing to take a chance.

LuvDaPuss
12-19-06, 22:01
Gee Phillippe, since you are the one that noticed I think that is a karmic indication that you are the man! TOFTT!! Its only $60 bucks worst case and you get a massage too. We are all pulling for you, man. Check it out and post the 411.........LDP

Phillippe
12-20-06, 02:17
I usually would but am short on do-ra-me


Gee Phillippe, since you are the one that noticed I think that is a karmic indication that you are the man! TOFTT!! Its only $60 bucks worst case and you get a massage too. We are all pulling for you, man. Check it out and post the 411

LDP

Chief69
12-23-06, 01:48
Well, I was at O Spa with Sooney last week and I didn't get Christmas socks. I guess they have stopped the quaint tradition. Looking back at the reports on S., I can say she gave a weak massage but on the plus side has good circulation (warm hands). Nothing to compare with Tonya as far as actual activity though. Still, a very nice gal. Merry Christmas, all.

Hobby knob
12-27-06, 14:50
went to get my xmas licking from tanya, but was told she was on vacation for a week. Was given the choice of soonie, yo-yo or sophia. not wanting to chance it being the same sophia from wagon wheel, and not wanting to gamble with yoyo whom i havent seen b4, i chose soonie. she didnt remember me :-(, but her experience was still very good.it is a different experince and you re right about her warm hands (and body). a very senusual gfe. not at all like tanya, but very gentle, loving touching sqeezing experience.(na na na na na na) sorry for the Journey reference).

I kinda dug it.

Rockett Man
12-29-06, 12:04
Went for a massage a few days ago... Was told Yo was a new girl and that she would make me happy.

She showed up, and looked like an asian linebacker - bigger than me and early 40s, "its not a woman, its a man baby."

I declined and told mama that I needed someone different lol. No argument as mama knew the asian linebacker was probably not a popular choice for many... and sophia came in instead. She is a bit of a complainer but was OK for a pinch hitter.

The Flatline
12-29-06, 15:25
Went for a massage a few days ago... Was told Yo was a new girl and that she would make me happy.

She showed up, and looked like an asian linebacker - bigger than me and early 40s, "its not a woman, its a man baby."

I declined and told mama that I needed someone different lol. No argument as mama knew the asian linebacker was probably not a popular choice for many... and sophia came in instead. She is a bit of a complainer but was OK for a pinch hitter.Asian linebacker? For most asian men that'd be an oxymoron LOL. Leave it to an AMP to find an exception to the rule. Might not be a bad idea if you need your spine re-arranged though.

Chief69
01-01-07, 18:59
Asian linebacker? For most asian men that'd be an oxymoron LOL. Leave it to an AMP to find an exception to the rule. Might not be a bad idea if you need your spine re-arranged though.
I'm a bit surprised--I've always found O to have very feminine gals. Can anyone else confirm this? If so, O spa seems to be sliding :(

Priapizm
01-02-07, 20:08
I've been lurking here forever and have indulged in a couple of places in Oxnard. I guess I am not the full blown monger as I stick to the happy endings (HJ). Tokyo Spa has become my usual destination and an older Korean looking lady (though she says Japanese) who calls herself Kim.

Sometimes it seems like she is the only person there. Is she the Mamasan? I'm out mostly for the good massage, which places are best?

Also, I live up in Santa Barbara but feel a little uncomfortable with searching much up here but maybe will work up the nerve.

Blazer Fan
01-02-07, 20:54
Ok, fellow mongers, I took one for the team today and tried out Han's Massage in Camarillo. I thought it might have some possibilities. Posted prices were $70 for 1 hour and 40 for 1/2 hour. Older mamasan takes my money and leads me in and directs me to the room and then asks me if I want to take a shower. even though she was old and wearing a lab coat, I'm still thinking this might work out. I take a shower and lay on the table with nothing over me to guage a reaction although I noticed by now the the walls didn't go all the way to the ceiling and you could hear what was going on in the next room. Any way after a few minutes an older asian woman (possibly filipino) came in and covered me with a sheet. I could tell by the way she was dressed that any hopes I had of a happy ending were probably down the tubes. She gave a full massage which wasn't too bad, but avoided any contact near the boys and didn't try to do anything to indicate that extras could be had. I did try to touch her on several ocassions hoping she would get the picture, but she would remove my hand.

At the end, I didn't tip her and point blank told her that I only tip for "special" massages and she seemed to understand what I was saying and said that future visits would be better. They might be just trying to feel out regulars versus LE for now. But both women working there were too old for my liking. I suspect a yank might be the best you can ever get out of the place. I gues we'll see how hungry they get. Right now they are busy, with other mongers checking the only place in town out.

Rockett Man
01-03-07, 00:31
Chief, it's usually the same old same old at O - I see the same gals there... Occasionally someone new.

In this case, not a good lookin' new gal... Just wanted to warn everyone... However...
its alllll a matter of taste. I won't knock someone elses taste. You are welcome to go see her for yourself and report back. :) Hey, each to his own, right?

For me, just doesn't cut it for me. Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled as I've been heading down to LA - some young babes (early 20s), young, tight, a private apt... You can't beat that... And I also see some of them outside of their work. That's enjoyable in its own right.

Stay safe,
RM





I'm a bit surprised--I've always found O to have very feminine gals. Can anyone else confirm this? If so, O spa seems to be sliding :(

FedEx
01-03-07, 22:22
I have visited with Kim earlier in the year a few times. She is Japanese. I greeted her in Korean and she was puzzled. Usually it's an ice-breaker and I get a lot of smiles and giggles, but not here, because she does not speak Korean.

She is going to church every Sunday and is the acting mamasan. She looks to me like late 40's - early 50's and a she dfk's passionately.

To those of you who avoid bbfs providers - you should avoid her, because bbfs is on the menu here.



I've been lurking here forever and have indulged in a couple of places in Oxnard. I guess I am not the full blown monger as I stick to the happy endings (HJ). Tokyo Spa has become my usual destination and an older Korean looking lady (though she says Japanese) who calls herself Kim.

Sometimes it seems like she is the only person there. Is she the Mamasan? I'm out mostly for the good massage, which places are best?

Also, I live up in Santa Barbara but feel a little uncomfortable with searching much up here but maybe will work up the nerve.

Priapizm
01-04-07, 15:07
I have visited with Kim earlier in the year a few times. She is Japanese. I greeted her in Korean and she was puzzled. Usually it's an ice-breaker and I get a lot of smiles and giggles, but not here, because she does not speak Korean.

She is going to church every Sunday and is the acting mamasan. She looks to me like late 40's - early 50's and a she dfk's passionately.

To those of you who avoid bbfs providers - you should avoid her, because bbfs is on the menu here.Yeah, sometimes she likes to talk. I remember her mentioning church on Sundays, that she plays piano there or something like that and that she has a daughter. More info than I was expecting.

I think she enjoys her job too. One time when I was having trouble releasing she did a little finger rimming while licking the boys. I got the sense that protection wasn't her greatest concern, possibly why I haven't done for the full deal. She is fun though and remembers me every time. Says she thinks I look like Elvis which is a crock.

Priapizm
01-04-07, 15:09
Does she have HUGE fake tits? Cause if she does she is definitely the same lady I saw regularly there from 2000-2003. I started looking elsewhere for my massages around 2003, but yeah. That chick was pretty fun!

Cobra ComanderI'm curious, does she (or Mamasans in general) own the place or run it for some one else. I realize I may be barking up the wrong tree with these kind of questions but the whole thing fascinates me.

And yes she's got big knockers.

BeachDude_805
01-05-07, 15:48
I'm curious, does she (or Mamasans in general) own the place or run it for some one else. I realize I may be barking up the wrong tree with these kind of questions but the whole thing fascinates me.

And yes she's got big knockers.You know, I have been doing the AMP thing for over 20 years. Recently the SF Chronicle had an interesting four part article on the women that work in the parlors, it is quite an eye opener. Here is the link if anyone is interested;

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL

Be safe out there!

Phillippe
01-06-07, 03:03
Did you guys see this in the paper? I seem to have miss the original story. Someone should post the link in the Vta forum.

2 robberies might be connected, police say
By Star staff
January 5, 2007

The same violent duo may have robbed two massage parlors about one block apart in Ventura last month, police said. A series of similarities connect the Dec. 9 robbery of Oriental Massage, 2660 E. Main St., and one Dec. 31 at the Yen and Yaat Health Center, 2541 E. Main St.

Most of the 13 robberies that occurred in Ventura between Dec. 2 and 31 often involved a single person entering a gas station or market, indicating that he had a gun and running away with cash, according to police.

In the massage parlor robberies, two people worked together, Ventura Police Sgt. Jack Richards said. "These guys are a little more sophisticated, a little more planned," Richards said. Police did not say what was stolen.

The massage parlor robberies were also more violent than the other incidents. In each case, someone in the massage parlor was struck on the head with an object, Richards said. The targets of both robberies were also alike: quiet establishments whose proprietors have limited English skills.

Richards said the thieves may have hoped that their victims would not be able to communicate with police. But a 911 translation service made communication quick, the police spokesman said. The investigation is continuing

>>>>>>>>>>>>

By the way, one of the reasons there is so many AMPs in the Vta county area might be because although maybe crappy area, strill relatively tame, as compared to SFV or INglewood etc.

A1 and O Acc had better be carefull. They are pissing off alot of people, and there are some people you apparantly don't want to piss off, as this story shows. That security guard in front of O Acc aint going to help you. Also makes me if there were robberies there in the past as well.

Priority
01-07-07, 00:07
I'm curious, does she (or Mamasans in general) own the place or run it for some one else. I realize I may be barking up the wrong tree with these kind of questions but the whole thing fascinates me.I know the Tokyo lady owns her place, she told me that right after she finished licking my asshole.

And I thought I was the only one that she confided in! I will give her credit, she was the first person that I visited when I arrived here in 1999, and in those moments when I contemplate visiting a massage parlour, she is the one that I think of going back and visiting.

Hobby knob
01-07-07, 01:28
Did you guys see this in the paper? I seem to have miss the original story. Someone should post the link in the Vta forum.

2 robberies might be connected, police say
By Star staff
January 5, 2007

The same violent duo may have robbed two massage parlors about one block apart in Ventura last month, police said. A series of similarities connect the Dec. 9 robbery of Oriental Massage, 2660 E. Main St., and one Dec. 31 at the Yen and Yaat Health Center, 2541 E. Main St.

Most of the 13 robberies that occurred in Ventura between Dec. 2 and 31 often involved a single person entering a gas station or market, indicating that he had a gun and running away with cash, according to police.

In the massage parlor robberies, two people worked together, Ventura Police Sgt. Jack Richards said. "These guys are a little more sophisticated, a little more planned," Richards said. Police did not say what was stolen.

The massage parlor robberies were also more violent than the other incidents. In each case, someone in the massage parlor was struck on the head with an object, Richards said. The targets of both robberies were also alike: quiet establishments whose proprietors have limited English skills.

Richards said the thieves may have hoped that their victims would not be able to communicate with police. But a 911 translation service made communication quick, the police spokesman said. The investigation is continuing

>>>>>>>>>>>>

By the way, one of the reasons there is so many AMPs in the Vta county area might be because although maybe crappy area, strill relatively tame, as compared to SFV or INglewood etc.

A1 and O Acc had better be carefull. They are pissing off alot of people, and there are some people you apparantly don't want to piss off, as this story shows. That security guard in front of O Acc aint going to help you. Also makes me if there were robberies there in the past as well.

I didn't see it. I actually have thought about it and had the fear of being there mid-session when something like that happened. Always surprised me it doesnt happen more. With being a cash heavy business.

BTW, you said someone should post in the VTA forum... Why didnt you just do it?

The Flatline
01-08-07, 02:28
You know, I have been doing the AMP thing for over 20 years. Recently the SF Chronicle had an interesting four part article on the women that work in the parlors, it is quite an eye opener. Here is the link if anyone is interested;

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL

Be safe out there!Are you the same guy who spammed this story all over WSG's forums? If memory serves you managed to piss a *lot* of people off doing that if that's you.

Courtrat
01-09-07, 18:29
You know, I have been doing the AMP thing for over 20 years. Recently the SF Chronicle had an interesting four part article on the women that work in the parlors, it is quite an eye opener. Here is the link if anyone is interested;

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL

Be safe out there!I wonder if the mayor of San Francisco would be as gung-ho if the targets were gay baths instead of AMP's. Just wondering.

Yowzaa
01-09-07, 22:44
Are you the same guy who spammed this story all over WSG's forums? If memory serves you managed to piss a *lot* of people off doing that if that's you.My guess is he's the same guy and it's getting pretty old.

BeachDude_805
01-10-07, 13:42
My guess is he's the same guy and it's getting pretty old.No I am not the "same guy", whatever that means. I am just sharing, sorry to set you guys off.

FedEx
01-10-07, 21:32
It's an amazing 4-part, state of the art journalist work with lots of research invested, not to mention the touch of humanity. I was mesmerized when I read it about a month ago.

I cannot understand why would people get pissed off by getting the link to such a great, though sad, story?



No I am not the "same guy", whatever that means. I am just sharing, sorry to set you guys off.

Phillippe
01-10-07, 22:28
I've happen to see the story before, linked from the San Bernadino forum, but it is by no means spammed all over the place. Probably alot of people haven't seen it yet.

For those of you who have read the story and are wondering how typical her experience really is, let me enlighten you right now. Her experience is the norm. You can assume that any worker under 25 you come across in an AMP has a similar story.

The four providers I've come across who were under 25, were either nervous, scared, unhappy to be there, or depressed. They were not 'party girls', unusually sexual and who had found their true calling. Nor were they materialistic teeny-boppers who are willing to take the 'quick road' to riches.

Now, as far as women over 30 who are doing this, that's another story...

But the least you can do if you are going to contribute to this problem is to not force yourself on the girls and make them do something they might not be comfortable with. Nor scar them for life with HPV via 'DFK' 'gobbling BBBJ' and 'DATY'. It's just shocking what I've read here in the past, I don't understand how some people can't see that that girl is someone's daughter.

But I know none of this matters to most of you. I just can't wait to see who objects to this post.


It's an amazing 4-part, state of the art journalist work with lots of research invested, not to mention the touch of humanity. I was mesmerized when I read it about a month ago.

I cannot understand why would people get pissed off by getting the link to such a great, though sad, story?

Rockett Man
01-10-07, 22:29
Yes, this URL was posted before and I have read it before... But it IS a good read, very poignant and worth many peoples time to read it, IMHO.

Cheers,
RM



You know, I have been doing the AMP thing for over 20 years. Recently the SF Chronicle had an interesting four part article on the women that work in the parlors, it is quite an eye opener. Here is the link if anyone is interested;

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL

Be safe out there!

The Flatline
01-11-07, 22:43
No I am not the "same guy", whatever that means. I am just sharing, sorry to set you guys off.No worries then. I checked your post history anyway and should have apologized.

On another forum, which I will not name, one individual posted the link to this story multiple times in every. single. forum.

Not just in california, but nevada, oregon, mexico, etc etc. It was everywhere and it got really tiring really fast.

Gopherit
01-12-07, 18:01
As with most of my visits to the "Nard", I submitted to convenience and ended up at stm's late last week. Had a session with Bebe. Kinda funny, as I asked her name and pointed to her shirt. Duh! There it was in bold letters. Of course my focus was more so on what the shirt was covering as opposed the the lettering:) Pretty sure I've been with her before at another establishment some time ago, but was the first time here. Nice personality and body. Late 30's to 40'ish? Kinda got a little too personal in conversation. Massage was decent. On the flip, a little bbj onto the cbj and various positions from there. Would have perferred more bj, but what the hell. Finished cowgirl. Wasn't into any lip contact and I didn't push the issue. All in all a good time. .6 at the door and .6 for a job well done.

By the way, I gotta agree with phillipe about the younger versus older providers in their attitudes and circumstances. I've done a bit of traveling in my previous life, and seen first hand those who came and went as they pleased and those who were, shall we say much more restricted in their freedom. The latter is sad. "It was a good article" Meanwhile "Back at the Ranch" Keep it fun, Keep is safe and Happy Mongering!!

Bob Caves06
01-12-07, 23:54
Been to Tspa on saviers twice in the last month. Once with Kim and once with Erica. Kim wanted 100 gave 70 not worth it. Erica wanted 70 gave 50 definitely worth 70. She says she there Friday and Sundays.

Massage 2
01-14-07, 19:06
This afternoon I 1st. tried to go to Suns spa on Saviers. They having grand opening new management, but when got there, there was a 1 hr. want. Was told all girls were busy. 30 min massage was listed for .4.

So I tried Vspa off A st. I have not been there since 1986. I gave Mama san .4 for 30 minutes. After a shower, Amy came in wearing a small slip. She is late 20s or early 30s. Nice eye candy for this old man. She gave a good massage. On the flip, she asked, what I wanted. Told her fs, she started with CHJ. Then played at different games and finished up with me on top mission.

Amy never asked for a tip. I was going to give her .5 tip, but I felt so good. I gave her .7 tip. Her work days are Th. to Sun.

Gopherit
02-24-07, 13:24
Got bored in the AV (Antelope Valley) and took a stroll to the Nard last nite. Was going to stm, but alas, it appeared the house was full. Ended up at mission about 7: 45 pm. Jackpot. Was greeted at the back door by Jenny, led to a room, then off to the shower. Though I don't get into town that often, she remembers me and is cheerful. While showering, I had to chuckle about the gum in the top corners of the shower stall. Stm has gotten a lot reviews about the same in the last year or two. Back to the room to dry off and low and behold a young Kgal comes in with Jenny. I'm told she's new and Jenny was going to show her how to give a massage. Heaven:) Jenny stayed for 5 minutes or so, explaining to the other what to do in Korean and I enjoyed the pleasure of 4 hands. Jenny leaves and the young one continues with an inexperienced weak massage. After a few minutes of light touching and the tickling fingernails, she motions for me to turn over. I obliged and she proceeded to tease with a light touch. She asked what I wanted and then asked how much. I counter with international sign language and told her she'd be taken care of. I've been very fortunate through the years on not haggling over compensation and consider it a major turn off. Here's where it got good. A light tongue bath from chest to junior and then the cover went on. Wanting to take advantage of the opportunity, I motioned for her to straddle me while "bobbing for junior". Oh my! Young, smooth and tasty! She must have liked it, cause the cover came off and she continued. Lots of mild moaning on her part. Back on with a cover and she rode like any good cowgirl should. We ended up doggie and I considered a good painting of the back side. The moment of hapinness at hand and I opted otherwise. Darn shame it had to end. Hot towel and about 5 more minutes ticlking with light touch and it was time to go. 6 at the door and. 6 more prior to leaving. Okay, enough of my blissfull rant. Calls herself "Milly". Gotta be in earlier 20s. Tall, slender, "a" cup, with long hair. Sorry guys, I forgot to ask what days she works. I asked and she said (of course) she lives in L. A. I'd imagine she'll move on soon as the grass is greener and the greenbacks are aplenty further south of the Nard. With gas prices once again on the rise and me living so far away, I imagine my visits to the nard will become less. It was really nice to enjoy something fresh for a change!

Well, keep it fun, keep it safe and Happy Mongering!

Rubberband Man
02-24-07, 18:30
I made a visit to OSPA last night. Was looking for tanya but mamasan said she was busy at the moment. I asked who else was working. She replied cherry and candy. Having been with cherry before I opted to try candy.

Waited for about 15min then candy came in. She's relatively young late 20's, slender, long black hair, a cup, nice perky butt. After a nice greeting she joked around for a bit to much for me. Then gave a weak massage. Proceeded to cover for cbj and were off to the races. We go through the positions. Mission, cg, doggie. Then finished with mission. Pounded for a good 20min.

Overall she was a good experience. Not bad in my book. It was nice to have someone different for a change.

Looks: 7 attitude: 8 service: 7

Hope you all enjoy!

Be safe

Massage 2
02-25-07, 21:31
This Morning I went to Victoria Amp. I was with Mimi, nice looking late 20's or early 30's VM girl from LA. She has a body that will not give you bone brouses, but not fat either. She has a great c-cup all natural.

Mimi gives a good to very good massage. She massaged me for the 1st. 10 to 15 minutes and I like it was a hour massage. Then on the flip, she lightly massage me with her breast which turned into a CBJ. Then some 69 to the missionary for the finish.

The next time I go there, I'll get a longer massage time.

I paid .4/.6 for the massage.

Pussy Luvr
03-01-07, 22:28
On the way to work the other day, I saw a worker on a ladder changing the sign from June Spa to Q Spa. I don't know if this means a management change as well. Anyone have any more info? It has been quite a while since I went there and wasn't that impressed at the time. Their parking is also just too out in the open for my situation.

I have been mostly a regular st A1 and sometimes O Spa.

Phillippe
03-02-07, 02:51
They should have renamed it G Spa. Get it?


On the way to work the other day, I saw a worker on a ladder changing the sign from June Spa to Q Spa. I don't know if this means a management change as well. Anyone have any more info? It has been quite a while since I went there and wasn't that impressed at the time. Their parking is also just too out in the open for my situation.

I have been mostly a regular st A1 and sometimes O Spa.

Hobby knob
03-03-07, 02:43
I have had some decent experinces at June, but could never figure out when they were open.

the last few times I went there... they were closed.

Will be worth a try.

When I'm done, I'll leave a Q-tip.

LOL


On the way to work the other day, I saw a worker on a ladder changing the sign from June Spa to Q Spa. I don't know if this means a management change as well. Anyone have any more info? It has been quite a while since I went there and wasn't that impressed at the time. Their parking is also just too out in the open for my situation.

I have been mostly a regular st A1 and sometimes O Spa.

Tsboy69
03-03-07, 05:08
Thanks to Go's report, I thought I would take the extra time to try Mission (as opposed to St.M's which is just a minute of the 101).

Took a self-shower and paid the $40. Left the change on the sink in my room. In walks Tana - mid 40's, older, thicker, long-timer.

Massage was ok with lots of streching, not too much conversation, she knew what I was interested in. A little light AR, CBJ, and a few positions.

I've seen better looking and younger girls, but this one certainly had some muscle control. Despite my avg. size, she grabbed on good.

Left the $60 and said thanks.

Oh well...as I drove past St.M's to get back on the freeway, no cars in their lot...again, oh well.

Priority
03-03-07, 22:20
Their parking is also just too out in the open for my situation.
I never liked that either, the kids doing their karate with their moms watching and me going to the massage parlour to have sex with a prostitute. Then, I figured out there was a back door, which unless someone was backing out of the apartment complex, was much more private. The old management just didn't like it when I used it at night.

Hobby knob
03-06-07, 05:02
Went to O Spa to see Soonie but she was off. I was given three names. One of whom I think is an old wagon wheeler. I asked if any of them were younger. The MMS basically said "no" without saying no.

Nuff said, and I left. Decided to roll the dice and hit O Acc. havent been there in years.

Got Coco. Pretty attractive with a very nice body and A kitty that fed-ex would love. Too much for me.

Anyway the service was up and down (no pun intended).
Pros: no wasting time. got AR and light BBBJ.
Cons: The way she pulled down mr happy while he was at attention (and I was on my stomach) Owwww.

definatley not GFE. I didnt try and kiss, but she made sure I wouldnt get close.

Only wanted it from behind while on her stomach. did mish a little, but she wanted to go back to that.

it felt pretty gos and I think she knows it, so it hurrys up the session. Damn, I should have seen if back door was on the menu the way she was propping it up.

Over all, just an ok session from an attractive girl. Ill probably go back.

Gopherit
03-07-07, 20:31
In reference to tsboys report on Missoin. Don't recall ever having a "Tana" at the Mission. Too bad the little Gem I talked about in my last post wasn't there. Most of the ladies I've spent time with there are on the older side of the fence. Good service though. I still think that treating them decent goes a long way, especially when you revisit the place. I keep wanting to visit the GT, but don't care for the location. Unless you park in the back, it's too open for me. Even with the gas prices on the rise, I can feel the "urge" to make the drive agian and enjoy a day in the Nard. Who knows, maybe I'll start the day by visiting one of the legits and get a "real massage" and then finish the day off at the other! Kinda like going out for dinner and then stoping at an Ice Cream parlor for desert. I'll keep you all posted:)

SenorHumongo
03-08-07, 04:13
Word on this board is steer clear of A-1, and I won't argue, though I got out O.K.

.4 + .6 for BJ (all I asked for). Asked about BB; Erica shook her head solemnly and said no, always covered, for everything.

From looks and voice I'd say Latina; handsome bolt-ons, not my usual style but I wasn't there to complain. Said she works Wednesdays only. Got the job done and never complained or seemed impatient about how long it was taking. Afterward she left the room and came back with a jar of oil, as if she were going to rub me down further or something. But I was already putting on my shoes.

It was a research expedition more than anything else. Conclusions? O.K., maybe not the best ever. But I've had to put up with worse.

OxnardBadBoy
03-13-07, 21:05
I know I dont post on this board. But I still go to AMPs. But I had to post this I called to see if Tanya is working. Mamasan said "No she not working no more" Is this forreal? Does anyone have any info on this?

Hobby knob
03-15-07, 03:29
I know I dont post on this board. But I still go to AMPs. But I had to post this I called to see if Tanya is working. Mamasan said "No she not working no more" Is this forreal? Does anyone have any info on this?
I saw her last week, so unless its recent....... I almost went there today, but went to a-1 and saw young.

very nice time was had by all.

Big Hick
03-16-07, 01:31
On the way to work the other day, I saw a worker on a ladder changing the sign from June Spa to Q Spa. I don't know if this means a management change as well. Anyone have any more info? It has been quite a while since I went there and wasn't that impressed at the time. Their parking is also just too out in the open for my situation.

I have been mostly a regular st A1 and sometimes O Spa.I'm heading out there tomorrow. I'll post a report. I haven't been in Oxnard in a while, are the donations still the same? 40/60?

Phillippe
03-19-07, 02:19
I read the classifieds MP section in the local paper for the first time in a long time. Saw interesting things, One establishment, I think Nicoles, has a $15 coupon, not $10 off. Maybe the industry is hurting. Also there was someone advertising 'full massage works" or something, but no address just a local number that goes straight to voicemail. Anybody try this out? Might be an Apt AMP. Another thing I noticed. The ads for Simi places, there are alot of them, really scream "We have absolutley the youngest girls! " yet we've all read here how much those places suk with over 50 yr olds. So are they just boldly lying about this? It seems to be the main focus of the Simi MP ads.

The Flatline
03-19-07, 22:07
I read the classifieds MP section in the local paper for the first time in a long time. Saw interesting things, One establishment, I think Nicoles, has a $15 coupon, not $10 off. Maybe the industry is hurting. Also there was someone advertising 'full massage works" or something, but no address just a local number that goes straight to voicemail. Anybody try this out? Might be an Apt AMP. Another thing I noticed. The ads for Simi places, there are alot of them, really scream "We have absolutley the youngest girls! " yet we've all read here how much those places suk with over 50 yr olds. So are they just boldly lying about this? It seems to be the main focus of the Simi MP ads.Nicole's spa charges 50 nowadays for 30 minutes I think. A lot of places have upped the price 10 bucks across the board. That way, if you get a 15 dollar off coupon, you're really paying 5 more than when you had that 10 dollar off coupon at the old rates.

It's creepy to be banging away and mamasan wants to come in and give you your change.

Big Hick
03-19-07, 23:43
I'm heading out there tomorrow. I'll post a report. I haven't been in Oxnard in a while, are the donations still the same? 40/60?


Well I went to Q Spa at 5:30pm last Friday and it was closed. Does anyone know what are the hours they keep?

MangoKiwi
03-20-07, 01:41
I saw her last week, so unless its recent....... I almost went there today, but went to a-1 and saw young.

very nice time was had by all.I don't normally post but I felt it was important enough to let everyone know that Tanya is gone. Neither the Mamasan or Donna would (or could) say where Tanya went just that she was no longer working there.

Donna was okay nothing special, but not bad.

BigGuy
03-20-07, 02:54
Went to Tokyo last thurs. and got a latina provider, late 30's or older, over weight, but she did have some HUGE KNOCKERS.
50 for 1/2 plus 60 tip CBJ, CFS. Nothing special, I should have gone somewhere else.

Good luck, BIGGUY

Spank Me
03-21-07, 03:39
I suggest ya'all pick up a copy of the VC Reporter. There's an ad for the place on Lindero Cyn (which I recommend), and there's also a $10 off coupon for an Oxnard AMP. The Westlake place is certainly an option if you don't want to drive all the way to Oxnard from the Valley.

Phillippe
03-21-07, 05:00
Big Hick,

Qspa isn't open yet. You should call first before try to go. Use the old number.

Phillipe

The Flatline
03-26-07, 19:08
Went to St M's day before yesterday to get rid of some frustration and ended up having an interesting experience.

Paid for the 30, shower, came back and had a girl who's name I didn't quite catch, started with an S but beyond that not much else. Very, very short hair, nice body overall, probably early 30s. Asked if I had been there before and I said yes, about 2 months earlier, and the "massage" began, which was more or less her fondling me.

On the flip she spooned up next to me and played with my nipples and ear and hair while she gave me a ghost-touch of a HJ. On went the cover, and got a great cbj as well. Rode me for a few moments, then mish until the finish. I think I was a little bit thicker than she's used to, as it took her a couple minutes to get all the way into her. I popped some time later and she cleaned me up, then asked me to lay back down on the bed.

She went and did the warm towel number, everything fine there, then she spooned up against me and wrapped my arms around her. She then drifted off relatively quickly. I figured what the hell and started getting to know her body a little more, gentle touching, etc etc. I have an evil touch and within 10 or 15 minutes I could see her heart beat via the throbbing vein in her neck, had her breathing fast, and had her heating up considerably in general. By the time I had to leave for work purposes, she was asking me where I lived (LA or ventura) and whatnot repeatedly.

I got out over an hour after I went in. Never heard the mamasan knock on the door or anything. Was an interesting experience. I would have enjoyed it a whole lot more if the spooning bit didn't remind me so much of an ex I am trying to mentally block.

Think I should have tried for some digits?