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I just saw an ad from a girl who said she'll only date white guys is what made me think of this.
While as it happens, I am white, I've had so many hoes telling me they don't date black guys.
Now, I'm willing to believe that SOME of them may stick to that, they're already spreading wide for a white guy the don't even know, for a bit of $.
Does anybody really believe that if a black guy came along and offered $$$ for the same service that they would say no?
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had, with 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. Thanks
Member #6355
10-23-11, 09:39
That kind of sounds like BS to me.
Turkey Creek isn't exactly known as a stroll.
Also, that big of a sting, in a ritzy part of town would have made the news.
At the very least it would have been in the paper and for whatever reason, WVLT just loves to do stories on the stings.This one probably wasn't a real event, but I've heard the north side of I-40 off Lovell also referred to as being "Turkey Creek," and there's at least one low-rent motel over there, not far from a flea market and a country-western bar / dance hall that has been known for some popular activities.
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had,
With 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. ThanksThere's a good explanation in the FAQ under "membership types". Hope that clears it up.
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had, with 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. ThanksAccording to the FAQs, it's 25 posts AND six months of membership.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=member_type_questions#faq_membership_type_questions_02
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had, with 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. ThanksI'm not 100 percent sure but I think it has to do with the quality of a members post. What I mean by that is, if a member just posts non-sense, they shouldn't be awarded "Senior Member" status. I mean, if I posted something like "Hi EVERYONE" twenty five days in a row, I don't think that would warrent a promotion in status. I could be wrong but that is about the only reason I can see for someone not being awared senior status. It really doesn't matter to me either way. If I have pertinent information to pass on I'll just post it. If I had never been given senior status doesn't stop me from reading all the good info this site provides. I guess the powers that be (whoever determines status) know what they are doing when awarding something like "senior member" status.
Take care, be safe and treat the ladies nice.
Member #4178
10-23-11, 11:36
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had, with 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. ThanksActually, if you read the FAQs, you'll find that you have to be a member for 6 months AND have at least 25 posts to become a senior member. The quality of your posts (I. E. Do they require editing) will determine whether or not you become a moderated versus unmoderated senior.
I'm pretty sure you have to reach the requisite number of posts and also have been a member for a certain amount of time. I don't recall what the cut off is for either though.
I'm not 100 percent sure but I think it has to do with the quality of a members post. What I mean by that is, if a member just posts non-sense, they shouldn't be awarded "Senior Member" status. I mean, if I posted something like "Hi EVERYONE" twenty five days in a row, I don't think that would warrent a promotion in status. I could be wrong but that is about the only reason I can see for someone not being awared senior status. It really doesn't matter to me either way. If I have pertinent information to pass on I'll just post it. If I had never been given senior status doesn't stop me from reading all the good info this site provides. I guess the powers that be (whoever determines status) know what they are doing when awarding something like "senior member" status.
Take care, be safe and treat the ladies nice.
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had, with 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. ThanksI think there is a six month membership requirement as well as the 25 post minimum. Do not know about the post quality requirement.
When I first started posting on this thread I noticed that there were regular members and seniors members but I thought that was due to the number of posts each member had, with 25 posts being the magic number to become a senior. But now I can see that a few members that have alot more than 25 posts are still regular members, Could someone please explain this to me. ThanksThank to everyone who posted on this request for information.
I'm traveling to San Fran on biz for a week in a couple months. Anyone know of any good dream mates or
Forums / boards I can got to for info on that area?
Thanks to all and happy dreaming!
Cheers!
UpForItNow
10-25-11, 12:16
I'm traveling to San Fran on biz for a week in a couple months. Anyone know of any good dream mates or
Forums / boards I can got to for info on that area?
Thanks to all and happy dreaming!
Cheers!Check your inbox.
Member #4200
10-25-11, 13:20
I have gotten PM's on both. Just wanted to put it in the public forum to see what others have to say.
WheelerJim
10-25-11, 17:09
Wow OMG I just had a dream of a young blonde hooters girl. 26yrs 5' 6" 115lbs short blonde hair off kingston pike very clean very fun. I fell asleep and dreemed this started with a full nude massage then turned me over and started rubbing my tool, said she wanted to taste my tool and finished after she swallowed. OMG what a dream if you want digits for this genni dream private mail me. OMG what a dream cum true mongers.
I've had alot of newbies with just a few posts senting me pm, s requesting info on the girls I have posted about. Don, t! Go out and earn your status! Do your recon or better yet RTFF. I remember the first time I ask for info, you could hear the crickets and the frog sounds coming across the speaker. Sorry thats just the way it is on this thread. Remember post your dreams give some info and take some PICS! I have never had a girl say no to pics they love to pose. That is what this thread is all about.
I have gotten PM's on both. Just wanted to put it in the public forum to see what others have to say.No doubt in my mind-it's Alexis!
I've had alot of newbies with just a few posts senting me pm, s requesting info on the girls I have posted about. Don, t! Go out and earn your status! Do your recon or better yet RTFF. I remember the first time I ask for info, you could hear the crickets and the frog sounds coming across the speaker. Sorry thats just the way it is on this thread. Remember post your dreams give some info and take some PICS! I have never had a girl say no to pics they love to pose. That is what this thread is all about.Yeah, I'd agree with that.
While I'm fairly new here myself, I can understand members being leery of newbies.
Add to which, I'd bet money Barney is sitting back with some coffee and a Krispy Kreme, reading the posts on this site.
Member #4178
10-25-11, 18:37
I have gotten PM's on both. Just wanted to put it in the public forum to see what others have to say.Depends on what you're into because they're both GFE and great dreams. If you like them small (I. E. Spinner types) definitely go with Alexis; if you like them a bit bigger (with some meat on their bones) opt for Voronica.
I've had alot of newbies with just a few posts senting me pm, s requesting info on the girls I have posted about. Don, t! Go out and earn your status! Do your recon or better yet RTFF. I remember the first time I ask for info, you could hear the crickets and the frog sounds coming across the speaker. Sorry thats just the way it is on this thread. Remember post your dreams give some info and take some PICS! I have never had a girl say no to pics they love to pose. That is what this thread is all about.Also for the newbs: if you PM me asking about a provider (especially one that has been thoroughly reviewed already in the forums) and you have only 1 or 2 posts, I'm going to be pretty cagey with my response because we know Uncle Leo trolls these boards, too, and I'm not going to give you anything that might implicate a trusted provider in an illegal activity. Just food for thought the next time you're frustrated with a lack of response to a PM question. And SKBoy is right, post up about your experiences; there's plenty of reviews on here to allow you to choose a first rate dream or two without PMs to other members. Your reviews will add some legitimacy to your status.
GameCockbdt
10-25-11, 23:59
This one probably wasn't a real event, but I've heard the north side of I-40 off Lovell also referred to as being "Turkey Creek," and there's at least one low-rent motel over there, not far from a flea market and a country-western bar / dance hall that has been known for some popular activities.I'm in Knoxville once a week, and although Lovell road is not exactly a hot spot, I have seen the occasional SW around the low-rent motel.
I have gotten PM's on both. Just wanted to put it in the public forum to see what others have to say.Haven't had the pleasure of Alexis but Voronica if great and a lot of fun. Another consideration is Voronica's friend Anna. Have seen her several times and she is highly reviewed on this site.
Member #6355
10-26-11, 15:12
Wow OMG I just had a dream of a young blonde hooters girl. 26yrs 5' 6" 115lbs short blonde hair off kingston pike very clean very fun. I fell asleep and dreemed this started with a full nude massage then turned me over and started rubbing my tool, said she wanted to taste my tool and finished after she swallowed. OMG what a dream if you want digits for this genni dream private mail me. OMG what a dream cum true mongers.Since WheelerJim was one of the senior members who originally recommended the beautiful and exotic Anna, whom I still see almost every week, I decided to take a chance on this one as well. I got digits from WJ yesterday & called last night for an appt this afternoon. She was bubbly and friendly, and everything seemed set. But then I called at the appointed time today, 30 minutes in advance of the appt itself, and every 10 minutes thereafter, waiting in the parking lot till about 15 minutes past the agreed-upon time. No answer, no reply to voice mail. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Bupkis.
Maybe she decided to go back to Hooters full time.
Member #6355
10-26-11, 15:27
I have gotten PM's on both. Just wanted to put it in the public forum to see what others have to say.These two providers offer very different experiences: Alexis is more laid-back, almost Californian (in a good way) in attitude. Voronica is more intense and seems more actively engaged in the session. Both are incredibly good-looking, though in very different ways. Alexis is skinny but with very nice features; Voronica is more curvy, with that special Latin spice that isn't easy to find here in East Podunk.
Member #4200
10-26-11, 16:32
Depends on what you're into because they're both GFE and great dreams. If you like them small (I. E. Spinner types) definitely go with Alexis; if you like them a bit bigger (with some meat on their bones) opt for Voronica.
Also for the newbs: if you PM me asking about a provider (especially one that has been thoroughly reviewed already in the forums) and you have only 1 or 2 posts, I'm going to be pretty cagey with my response because we know Uncle Leo trolls these boards, too, and I'm not going to give you anything that might implicate a trusted provider in an illegal activity. Just food for thought the next time you're frustrated with a lack of response to a PM question. And SKBoy is right, post up about your experiences; there's plenty of reviews on here to allow you to choose a first rate dream or two without PMs to other members. Your reviews will add some legitimacy to your status.Thanks TwoPup, I will say before I ever made my first post I spent about a week reading as much of the forums as I could. I have had no problem whatsoever with anyone helping me out. I will say it does raise your skin a bit when you post something and you get a PM from someone who has no posts or 1 post behind them. But thanks everyone for inputs and I have to say I agree with everything SKBoy said. Share your experiences and people will be more willing to share with you.
Member #4200
10-26-11, 16:39
When I first called Taylar to schedule my appointment with Tsuki, I called the 865-566-6921 number and the lady was pretty irate. She informed me if I ever found the Tsuki girl to tell her that if she posted the right number she may actuall make some money. I looked thru the ads and found one of Taylors posts and called her number and all was fine. I did inform Tsuki of this and she said the don't have a 566 number. So be careful calling this number.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/mariah-and-ally-new-pics-2-girl-specials-20/4463576
For some reason I am unable to post in the BP provider reviews so I will post this here. I had a nice dream of Voronica last week. Very soft and inviting and those breasts are to die for. I recommend and will repeat.
I'm going to MB next week for golf and fun!
Anyone have any good providers or (forums used for that area) they want to pass my way?
PM me if you like! Appreciate any and all recommendations and I know YMMV. These days!
Thanks!Did you find any good providers in MB that you would be willing to share? I make 2-3 golf trips a year to MB and would appreciate any info. Did you see Elizabeth?
I'm just wondering if anybody has any experience with a girl who posts on CL and BP named Nikki D.
I found her facebook page a while back and so I'm fairly certain I know her last name, but I'm not willing to post it here.
Anyway, she says she's 29, kind of cute, dark shoulder length hair.
Her spiel is something along the lines of she's looking for some fun and some "help with her bills."
I exchanged a couple of email with her back a few months ago, but never did hook up.
She very briefly had an ad up on CL tonight, this time, she said she needed some help with her motel room and had a different picture, this one she was showing off what looks like a pretty tight body.
I don't know if she took her ad down herself or the moral fascists got hold of it.
Either way, I wouldn't mind some weekend company and she seemed pretty reasonable before, but I'm wondering if anybody can give me some info?
She also has a site called Knoxvillenuru. I will be traveling to Knoxville in a few days and was wondering if anyone has any info or details they could share.
Wanted to throw this out. Fishy.
Over the last 3 weeks I have been getting emails and pm's from guys who say they are in town for the "UT Football Game".
Every time it says about the same thing. I'm a newbie, I have no refrence, every other girl has "flaked out" and I have 250 to spend right now, and a senior member gave me your number. They talk a lot about what is on the menu, how big they are and send the SAME naked pic every time. Diffrent guys, diffrent #'s, same pic, same dialogue.
When I ask for another pic of their face, their screen name, and which senior member so I can verify. They never respond back. Then it repeats in a day or so with a diffrent.
A couple other ladies have mentioned this as well.
I guess I'm writing this so everyone will be aware, even the guys. They are using your names as refrences. Maybee this will help someone stay safe.
If you want the pic, pm me and Ill email it to you.
Anna, if I offer myself as a reference to another hobbyist, I will tell you first.
I look forward to seeing you again, soon. Sorry our schedules haven't matched up lately.
John Galt
I'm just wondering if anybody has any experience with a girl who posts on CL and BP named Nikki D.
I found her facebook page a while back and so I'm fairly certain I know her last name, but I'm not willing to post it here.
Anyway, she says she's 29, kind of cute, dark shoulder length hair.
Her spiel is something along the lines of she's looking for some fun and some "help with her bills."
I exchanged a couple of email with her back a few months ago, but never did hook up.
She very briefly had an ad up on CL tonight, this time, she said she needed some help with her motel room and had a different picture, this one she was showing off what looks like a pretty tight body.
I don't know if she took her ad down herself or the moral fascists got hold of it.
Either way, I wouldn't mind some weekend company and she seemed pretty reasonable before, but I'm wondering if anybody can give me some info?Not sure if this is the same one, but sounds exactly like her. I did meet up with her a few months back. She was living in trailer park not too far off Amherst Road. She gave the story about car problems so she couldn't work. Sounded like her mom was living with her and her kids. I picked her up at her place and just went for a drive. I would have visited again, but wasn't able to get back in touch with her.
Member #6355
10-29-11, 07:16
Since WheelerJim was one of the senior members who originally recommended the beautiful and exotic Anna, whom I still see almost every week, I decided to take a chance on this one as well. I got digits from WJ yesterday & called last night for an appt this afternoon. She was bubbly and friendly, and everything seemed set. But then I called at the appointed time today. 30 minutes in advance of the appt itself, and every 10 minutes thereafter, waiting in the parking lot till about 15 minutes past the agreed-upon time. No answer, no reply to voice mail. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Bupkis.
Maybe she decided to go back to Hooters full time.
Got a multimedia message from her, with a neat pic, and voicemail apologizing for having lost her phone last week around our appt time. Might give her a second chance sometime next week.
Has anyone else taken the plunge?
Not sure if this is the same one, but sounds exactly like her. I did meet up with her a few months back. She was living in trailer park not too far off Amherst Road. She gave the story about car problems so she couldn't work. Sounded like her mom was living with her and her kids. I picked her up at her place and just went for a drive. I would have visited again, but wasn't able to get back in touch with her.Check your PMs, but yeah, sounds like the same girl.
Sexhoundtn2
10-29-11, 11:35
Nikki D / Nikki from the trailer park are one in the same. She is a spinner, very thin, decent attitude. IMHO not worth the drive to west knox for me anyway. You have to pick her up at the trailer park. No worry its a safe trailer park, probably the nicest in knox as far as TP goes. Haven't saw her in a long time. She was discussed on her back several months ago. She is hard to get ind touch with, phone always out of minutes, but keep trying. Hound.
I'm just wondering if anybody has any experience with a girl who posts on CL and BP named Nikki D.
I found her facebook page a while back and so I'm fairly certain I know her last name, but I'm not willing to post it here.
Anyway, she says she's 29, kind of cute, dark shoulder length hair.
Her spiel is something along the lines of she's looking for some fun and some "help with her bills."
I exchanged a couple of email with her back a few months ago, but never did hook up.
She very briefly had an ad up on CL tonight, this time, she said she needed some help with her motel room and had a different picture, this one she was showing off what looks like a pretty tight body.
I don't know if she took her ad down herself or the moral fascists got hold of it.
Either way, I wouldn't mind some weekend company and she seemed pretty reasonable before, but I'm wondering if anybody can give me some info?
Anyone seen Alexis lately? Her P411 acct has been deleted and haven't seen her reviews on other sites updated in a couple of months.
Thanks
Wanted to throw this out. Fishy.
Over the last 3 weeks I have been getting emails and pm's from guys who say they are in town for the "UT Football Game".
Every time it says about the same thing. I'm a newbie, I have no refrence, every other girl has "flaked out" and I have 250 to spend right now, and a senior member gave me your number. They talk a lot about what is on the menu, how big they are and send the SAME naked pic every time. Diffrent guys, diffrent #'s, same pic, same dialogue.
When I ask for another pic of their face, their screen name, and which senior member so I can verify. They never respond back. Then it repeats in a day or so with a diffrent.
A couple other ladies have mentioned this as well.
I guess I'm writing this so everyone will be aware, even the guys. They are using your names as refrences. Maybee this will help someone stay safe.
If you want the pic, pm me and Ill email it to you.Sent you a PM with more funny business you should be aware of!
Jj Dillion 2
10-29-11, 15:33
Not sure if this is the same one, but sounds exactly like her. I did meet up with her a few months back. She was living in trailer park not too far off Amherst Road. She gave the story about car problems so she couldn't work. Sounded like her mom was living with her and her kids. I picked her up at her place and just went for a drive. I would have visited again, but wasn't able to get back in touch with her.Same girl. The last time I talked to her she live off westren but she moved I did have her number but the phone I had it shorted and I forgot to backup my contacts ahe do have skills checking and sing on the mic LOL
Anyone seen Alexis lately? Her P411 acct has been deleted and haven't seen her reviews on other sites updated in a couple of months.
ThanksI called her the other day and she didn't answer, but texted me a little while later. All is well as far as I know.
On another note, I saw the lovely Samantha this Friday. I've seen her before, so nothing much of a surprise. Always trustworthy with an absolutely bangin' body for those of you who are tired of unexperienced skinny mini's who are strung out half the time. It was a nice change of pace.
I called her the other day and she didn't answer, but texted me a little while later. All is well as far as I know.
On another note, I saw the lovely Samantha this Friday. I've seen her before, so nothing much of a surprise. Always trustworthy with an absolutely bangin' body for those of you who are tired of unexperienced skinny mini's who are strung out half the time. It was a nice change of pace.I saw Alexis this past week. She's fine and as good as ever!
I'm not sure what is up with this guy but please becareful booking w this dude he likes to threatin other services. Girl have a choice where they can work. Force is not needed. I know I have mixed reviews and little drama on here but please be careful when dealing with this person.
TommyThumbless
10-30-11, 16:50
She also has a site called Knoxvillenuru. I will be traveling to Knoxville in a few days and was wondering if anyone has any info or details they could share.The nuru slide is fun. Warm oil, naked bodies. Half back rub, finish with between the breasts, with a handshake. Very nice, sensual and satisfying.
GFE is a little expensive, but sooooo much worth it. Lots of nice touching and cuddling and she is very sensitive. We basically exchanged oral and made out for 45 minutes the went doggie until finish on chest, which she seems to like. She squirts if you know what you are doing and really gets off along with you. If I was arich man, I'd take her away from this world and stay in bed with her everyday. She's a thick girl, wears her age well but doesn't fake anything. One of my all time faves.
Nikki D / Nikki from the trailer park are one in the same. She is a spinner, very thin, decent attitude. IMHO not worth the drive to west knox for me anyway. You have to pick her up at the trailer park. No worry its a safe trailer park, probably the nicest in knox as far as TP goes. Haven't saw her in a long time. She was discussed on her back several months ago. She is hard to get ind touch with, phone always out of minutes, but keep trying. Hound.Thanks for the info.
Based on what I've been told in PMs, I think I will give her a call sometime next week.
Not only do I not mind picking her up, but her current location, as of her last ad, is only about 5 miles from me.
Anyone seen Alexis lately? Her P411 acct has been deleted and haven't seen her reviews on other sites updated in a couple of months.
ThanksYea, I saw her this week as well and like Beaux said, she is as fine as ever.
Yea, I saw her this week as well and like Beaux said, she is as fine as ever.Well, I got a hold of her, had already verified myself through a service, and she said she'd be on her way. Never heard a thing from her after that. Maybe the next business trip will go better for me.
Thanks for all the updates from everyone.
The nuru slide is fun. Warm oil, naked bodies. Half back rub, finish with between the breasts, with a handshake. Very nice, sensual and satisfying.
GFE is a little expensive, but sooooo much worth it. Lots of nice touching and cuddling and she is very sensitive. We basically exchanged oral and made out for 45 minutes the went doggie until finish on chest, which she seems to like. She squirts if you know what you are doing and really gets off along with you. If I was arich man, I'd take her away from this world and stay in bed with her everyday. She's a thick girl, wears her age well but doesn't fake anything. One of my all time faves.Thanks for the info. And thanks to everyone who PM'd me with info as well. Much appreciated.
RollinStone
10-31-11, 12:10
It is definitely a glide worth taking. Candy puts one at ease very quickly. Easy to talk to, and, much fun. It is a ride I always enjoy.
Well, I got a hold of her, had already verified myself through a service, and she said she'd be on her way. Never heard a thing from her after that. Maybe the next business trip will go better for me.
Thanks for all the updates from everyone.I'd like make a retraction on my last post. She texted me today before I left and explained what happened. Anyway, my apologies if what last said sounded rude or offensive towards her. Hopefully I can dream a little dream the next time I come into town.
Jsidd
Had some time at lunch so I thought I'd dream of the "Hooters girl", Blonde spinner she was good! She smelled nice and looked great. Very pretty face, just needs a quality hairdo and she'd be smokin HOT! Her body is thin and soft and smelled great (fresh). Give her a try sometime.
Yep there was a little drama but all ended well!
Trusted members and PM friends. PM me for details.
I saw Kaylee yesterday. She is very accomodating and is up for most anything. I recommend her if you like a bigger girl, but not overly big.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60-no-tricks-just-treats-happy-halloween-alwayz-in-the-mood-for-a-gentleman-incalloutcall-25/4320003
Just so that you know, there's probably not a regular contributor to this forum who hasn't experienced at least one slight delay or scheduling conflict with Alexis, particularly on a first appointment with her. I think she's probably a lot better now days than back when she first started. I've joked with Alexis that the first time I saw her I was so mad I could scream. She had cancelled on me previously and was then running late on the day I finally did see her. But that was many dreams ago and trust me when I say that Alexis is one for whom persistence and patience pays huge dividends!
I'd like make a retraction on my last post. She texted me today before I left and explained what happened. Anyway, my apologies if what last said sounded rude or offensive towards her. Hopefully I can dream a little dream the next time I come into town.
Jsidd
I saw Kaylee yesterday. She is very accomodating and is up for most anything. I recommend her if you like a bigger girl, but not overly big.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60-no-tricks-just-treats-happy-halloween-alwayz-in-the-mood-for-a-gentleman-incalloutcall-25/4320003Thanks for the info.
I've been thinking about giving her a call.
I do like petite little spinners, but I like tits and a bit of cushion also.
OutdoorBooty
11-01-11, 08:21
Thanks for the info.
I've been thinking about giving her a call.
I do like petite little spinners, but I like tits and a bit of cushion also.I have seen both Kaylee and Thick Chick Bella and even thou Bella is on the bigger size, her performance, body and natural arousal puts Kaylee performance to shame. I'm usually not a fan of BBW but there is something special about Thick Bella IMHO, her sweet face and naughtiness together is a nice combo.
Member #6355
11-01-11, 12:45
OutdoorBooty said:
"I have seen both Kaylee and Thick Chick Bella and even thou Bella is on the bigger size, her performance, body and natural arousal puts Kaylee performance to shame. I'm usually not a fan of BBW but there is something special about Thick Bella IMHO, her sweet face and naughtiness together is a nice combo."
Ditto 100 percent. I like everything about the girl except her "stage" name, which is kind of awkward. Been dreaming about her for almost a year, and she never, ever disappoints. She's definitely big, but her attitude is always right on target. For those of us who've been around awhile, she's a very acceptable substitute for the retired and much-missed Cake, except without the Mediterranean option. She's gotten to know my quirks and preferences and does pretty much everything she can to get me to my dream destination. She recently raised her donation to $.4, and I'm glad about that since maybe that means a slightly better clientele than whatever crawls off the interstate exit with $ in its paws.
OutdoorBooty said:
"I have seen both Kaylee and Thick Chick Bella and even thou Bella is on the bigger size, her performance, body and natural arousal puts Kaylee performance to shame. I'm usually not a fan of BBW but there is something special about Thick Bella IMHO, her sweet face and naughtiness together is a nice combo."
Ditto 100 percent. I like everything about the girl except her "stage" name, which is kind of awkward. Been dreaming about her for almost a year, and she never, ever disappoints. She's definitely big, but her attitude is always right on target. For those of us who've been around awhile, she's a very acceptable substitute for the retired and much-missed Cake, except without the Mediterranean option. She's gotten to know my quirks and preferences and does pretty much everything she can to get me to my dream destination. She recently raised her donation to $.4, and I'm glad about that since maybe that means a slightly better clientele than whatever crawls off the interstate exit with $ in its paws.I'm not at all familiar with Bella, but the BBW thing is the one major turn off I have.
I've not been with Kaylee, but judging by her pics, that's about as plump as I'm willing to go for.
I'd also never get with the same provider for "almost a year."
For me, it's all about variety.
In the end, it comes back to the old adage, different strokes for different folks.
ThickChickBela
11-01-11, 14:03
Thanks guys! What would a fitting name be for me? I need a name that sets me apart from the other Bella's that jack their clients (and I don't mean HJ)
BTW this is my first post!
OutdoorBooty said:
"I have seen both Kaylee and Thick Chick Bella and even thou Bella is on the bigger size, her performance, body and natural arousal puts Kaylee performance to shame. I'm usually not a fan of BBW but there is something special about Thick Bella IMHO, her sweet face and naughtiness together is a nice combo."
Ditto 100 percent. I like everything about the girl except her "stage" name, which is kind of awkward. Been dreaming about her for almost a year, and she never, ever disappoints. She's definitely big, but her attitude is always right on target. For those of us who've been around awhile, she's a very acceptable substitute for the retired and much-missed Cake, except without the Mediterranean option. She's gotten to know my quirks and preferences and does pretty much everything she can to get me to my dream destination. She recently raised her donation to $.4, and I'm glad about that since maybe that means a slightly better clientele than whatever crawls off the interstate exit with $ in its paws.
Member #4200
11-01-11, 15:02
Anyone ever wonder why Tsuki is the only one of Taylars crew that doesn't have any face shots. I mean to have a body that smoking, it's ashamed you don't get to see the full package.
Anyone experienced Taylor's new girl the Blonde? Tsuki was talking very highly of her.
Dreamed that I met the Hooters girl today. She, s very cute and performed well, just what I needed. Received a pm from Bonifino about a small amount of drama during his dream the day before, but today it was all good. Two thumbs up!
Could someone please PM me the digits for the Hooters girl? I'd like to try my luck.
Thanks guys! What would a fitting name be for me? I need a name that sets me apart from the other Bella's that jack their clients (and I don't mean HJ)
BTW this is my first post!Adora Belle. <snicker
Thanks guys! What would a fitting name be for me? I need a name that sets me apart from the other Bella's that jack their clients (and I don't mean HJ)
BTW this is my first post!With all the other girls taking names of cars and movie characters how about something simple. Like Debby or Lisa. Of course you'll always be Baby to me.
Me too please.
Thanks for sharing.
Could someone please PM me the digits for the Hooters girl? I'd like to try my luck.
Member #6355
11-02-11, 05:10
Thanks guys! What would a fitting name be for me? I need a name that sets me apart from the other Bella's that jack their clients (and I don't mean HJ)
BTW this is my first post!Hey, babe. Glad to see you participating here. Maybe you can help keep some of us mongers (or mongrels) in line. As for a nom de porne, I thought La Bella Flaca might work, but that would imply that you're Latina. How about Babycake or Babycakes? Others will get the reference, and Cake isn't around anymore to complain. Plus it's cute and sexy, just like your own darn self.
I'm still new at the board but if someone could help me out and give me just a little info on hooters girl I have some other # and info on couple different girls thanks.
Could someone please PM me the digits for the Hooters girl? I'd like to try my luck.Me too, thanks
ThickChickBela
11-03-11, 01:12
Adora Belle. <snickerYou're too sweet!
ThickChickBela
11-03-11, 01:25
Hey, babe. Glad to see you participating here. Maybe you can help keep some of us mongers (or mongrels) in line. As for a nom de porne, I thought La Bella Flaca might work, but that would imply that you're Latina. How about Babycake or Babycakes? Others will get the reference,or and Cake isn't around anymore to complain. Plus it's cute and sexy, just like your own darn self.Babycakes? LOL. That isn't even close to what you usually call me! You do have a special way with words, so Ill be thinking about it. Do you think a name change causes alot of confusion?
Cat Lover 77
11-03-11, 07:10
Hey all:
Long-time lurker, first time poster. A hobby man for about a year. A few one-line reviews (and then a request) :
Alexis. Obviously, the best. Sweet girl. Beautiful. Excellent conversation. Great location. Five stars.
Candy Curves. Went for the $150 and really enjoyed it. She's also a smart woman. And. My stars!. A tit man's dream. Go for the glide; intensely erotic and (almost) better than sex.
Bella (shai). Scary. Poor thing needs to rehab and get out of this. Dangerous situation.
Bella (thick chick). One of the sweetest, most accomodating ladies. Sensual AND sexual. If you don't mind BBWs, a great time.
Samantha / Brittany. Worth checking out; better with each time.
Ana (of Bella and Ana). In Alexis territory; accomodating, smart, BEAUTIFUL (nothing fake).
Lovely. I actually liked my time with her though I've read here that you're probably better off avoiding; a physical knock-out but a little work (wo) man like.
Lady Monica. AVOID AT ALL COSTS; rude, weird, smokey. Not a good time.
Anna (apple bottomed red head who occasionally posts). Strange girl who has been repeatedly busted; careful.
There have been others (my first was Brooke; not recommended; dangerous) but I wanted to say that I've had good luck with the AMP off Callahan as long as I got a woman who calls herself Judy. It's been a while so she might not be there. I'd avoid the one on Chapman. Holly's old, smoky, and scary and doesn't know what she's doing in the preamble. Had to have my back and neck adjusted after she worked on me. The mamasan here's pretty and sexy but not on the menu.
Tsuki is awesome; beautiful face and body and very into what she does.
Which brings me to. Taylar. I'd also like a PM from any recent customers. And, most importantly, CAN I GET SOME INFO ON THESE HOOTERS GIRLS? Appreciate it.
Seems a line is forming. Shall I go setup and start charging for parking & serving up a cold one for those in line. He he.
Reminds me of those hideaway's in Texas where a Latina and a Corona could be had for under a $.
Let's get a good detailed review on Gia somebody!
Cheers all!
B
Hey all:
Long-time lurker, first time poster. A hobby man for about a year. A few one-line reviews (and then a request) :
Alexis. Obviously, the best. Sweet girl. Beautiful. Excellent conversation. Great location. Five stars.
Candy Curves. Went for the $150 and really enjoyed it. She's also a smart woman. And. My stars. A tit man's dream. Go for the glide; intensely erotic and (almost) better than sex.
Bella (shai). Scary. Poor thing needs to rehab and get out of this. Dangerous situation.
Bella (thick chick). One of the sweetest, most accomodating ladies. Sensual AND sexual. If you don't mind BBWs, a great time.
Samantha / Brittany. Worth checking out; better with each time.
Ana (of Bella and Ana). In Alexis territory; accomodating, smart, BEAUTIFUL (nothing fake).
Lovely. I actually liked my time with her though I've read here that you're probably better off avoiding; a physical knock-out but a little work (wo) man like.
Lady Monica. AVOID AT ALL COSTS; rude, weird, smokey. Not a good time.
Anna (apple bottomed red head who occasionally posts). Strange girl who has been repeatedly busted; careful.
There have been others (my first was Brooke; not recommended; dangerous) but I wanted to say that I've had good luck with the AMP off Callahan as long as I got a woman who calls herself Judy. It's been a while so she might not be there. I'd avoid the one on Chapman. Holly's old, smoky, and scary and doesn't know what she's doing in the preamble. Had to have my back and neck adjusted after she worked on me. The mamasan here's pretty and sexy but not on the menu.
Tsuki is awesome; beautiful face and body and very into what she does.
Which brings me to. Taylar. I'd also like a PM from any recent customers. And, most importantly, CAN I GET SOME INFO ON THESE HOOTERS GIRLS? Appreciate it.A wonderful first post Cat Lover 77. Welcome to the Knoxville forum.
I too would like to partake of the soon to be famous Hooters Girl. If someone would be so kind, please PM me the digits.
Nick
Buck Hunter
11-03-11, 11:21
Seems a line is forming. Shall I go setup and start charging for parking & serving up a cold one for those in line. He he.
Reminds me of those hideaway's in Texas where a Latina and a Corona could be had for under a $.
Let's get a good detailed review on Gia somebody!
Cheers all!
BI met her on craig's for. 6 which was deal for what she does. Nice young body, but not GFE at all, no fk or tit action. She does very good BBBJ. She has doubled her donation now to $.4 which would not be a bargan. She has potential but kinda cold.
Babycakes? LOL. That isn't even close to what you usually call me! You do have a special way with words, so Ill be thinking about it. Do you think a name change causes alot of confusion?Sweetie. I wouldn't change one single thing about you! I would, however, LOVE to change the fact that I don't get to see you as often as I would like!
Let me start off by saying that I have aways given info to seniors (and to two pup pop) when requested (all but one time) and I do like to help people. But am getting requests from people with zero posts two post ect, mostly about hooters girl. I would like for the seniors on this thread to let me know what you think about letting this info out to everyone. BTW don,t get your panties in a wad if you don,t get the info you request ,Thanks
Let me start off by saying that I have aways given info to seniors (and to two pup pop) when requested (all but one time) and I do like to help people. But am getting requests from people with zero posts two post ect, mostly about hooters girl. I would like for the seniors on this thread to let me know what you think about letting this info out to everyone. ThanksI would not share with Newbies and Non-Seniors and here is my reasons why:
A- This girl (and I haven't seen her) seems to be one of those classic and cherished "Under the Radar" gems. If she's not advertising on BP and other sites, then she might have a reason. Although she might appreciate some qualified referrals, she might not like getting calls from every Joe off the street (whether they are LEO or not)
B- Non-Seniors who do not have a proven review record (and unfortunately some Seniors get that status WITHOUT posting a quality review) could very possibly be LEO and you could easily be setting this girl up for trouble.
C-There are plenty of girls in town who advertise that these guys can meet and then post a review. If they really want to bust their monger cherry with a Hooters Girl, then I suggest that they go to Hooters and start throwing around the cash. They just might get lucky.
Sorry if this seems unfair. But I'd hate to see this girl on the Mugshot website because info was shared too loosely on this site. (This goes for information about other girls too. Although I enjoy the reviews and have posted my share, I look at the general posts here as entertainment, not for an abundance of specific information. That should be shared in PM's) Like I said...this is just my opinion.
I would not share with Newbies and Non-Seniors and here is my reasons why:
A- This girl (and I haven't seen her) seems to be one of those classic and cherished "Under the Radar" gems. If she's not advertising on BP and other sites, then she might have a reason. Although she might appreciate some qualified referrals, she might not like getting calls from every Joe off the street (whether they are LEO or not)
B- Non-Seniors who do not have a proven review record (and unfortunately some Seniors get that status WITHOUT posting a quality review) could very possibly be LEO and you could easily be setting this girl up for trouble.
C-There are plenty of girls in town who advertise that these guys can meet and then post a review. If they really want to bust their monger cherry with a Hooters Girl, then I suggest that they go to Hooters and start throwing around the cash. They just might get lucky.
Sorry if this seems unfair. But I'd hate to see this girl on the Mugshot website because info was shared too loosely on this site. (This goes for information about other girls too. Although I enjoy the reviews and have posted my share, I look at the general posts here as entertainment, not for an abundance of specific information. That should be shared in PM's) Like I said. This is just my opinion.Being fairly new here myself, it's not to my advantage to say this, but I pretty much agree with all of that.
If it were me, I would not give out her contact info without her permission and even then, it would only be to members I thought were trustworthy.
I would not want to see a girl wind up on the KCSO website or get beaten or raped based on something I set in motion.
I admit I have given contact info for some SWers I know, but I knew they'd appreciate the business.
Hooters girl seems to have a reason for keeping things quiet and so if it were me, I'd respect her privacy.
Also, if her employer found out she's turning tricks on the side, I can pretty much guarantee they would fire her.
While I'm a newbie here, I think I've made enough posts to show that I'm a legit hobbyist, but I can understand someone being leery of me because I'm new and if it were me, no way would I be sending info to someone who only has one or two posts.
I don't think there's anything magical about being a "senior" and I'll oftentimes give info to non-seniors who have at least 10 or so meaningful posts but if you have zero posts don't bother me. I don't care if you claim to know Barbie or Alexis or mother fucking theresa, I'm not respnding to you if you've never had balls enough to post a single review. With all due respect, leave me the fug alone and quit cluttering my inbox!
Let me start off by saying that I have aways given info to seniors (and to two pup pop) when requested (all but one time) and I do like to help people. But am getting requests from people with zero posts two post ect, mostly about hooters girl. I would like for the seniors on this thread to let me know what you think about letting this info out to everyone. BTW don,t get your panties in a wad if you don,t get the info you request ,Thanks
I don't think there's anything magical about being a "senior" and I'll oftentimes give info to non-seniors who have at least 10 or so meaningful posts but if you have zero posts don't bother me. I don't care if you claim to know Barbie or Alexis or mother fucking theresa, I'm not respnding to you if you've never had balls enough to post a single review. With all due respect, leave me the fug alone!Lurking non-contributor. But I wholeheartedly agree with you and I've grown a small pair and will start contributing. BTW, Mother Theresa is a bit before my time.
I don't think there's anything magical about being a "senior" and I'll oftentimes give info to non-seniors who have at least 10 or so meaningful posts but if you have zero posts don't bother me. I don't care if you claim to know Barbie or Alexis or mother fucking theresa, I'm not respnding to you if you've never had balls enough to post a single review. With all due respect, leave me the fug alone and quit cluttering my inbox!Well said.
My sentiments exactly. Sorry guys no offence. Be patience, we have a lot on the line, not just us, but the ladies we care a lot about.
On a separate note, thanks to everyone who sent PM's on Amber and Taylar. I have a lot to think about.
Have a wonderful rainy evening.
Nick
I would not share with Newbies and Non-Seniors and here is my reasons why:
A- This girl (and I haven't seen her) seems to be one of those classic and cherished "Under the Radar" gems. If she's not advertising on BP and other sites, then she might have a reason. Although she might appreciate some qualified referrals, she might not like getting calls from every Joe off the street (whether they are LEO or not)
B- Non-Seniors who do not have a proven review record (and unfortunately some Seniors get that status WITHOUT posting a quality review) could very possibly be LEO and you could easily be setting this girl up for trouble.
C-There are plenty of girls in town who advertise that these guys can meet and then post a review. If they really want to bust their monger cherry with a Hooters Girl, then I suggest that they go to Hooters and start throwing around the cash. They just might get lucky.
Sorry if this seems unfair. But I'd hate to see this girl on the Mugshot website because info was shared too loosely on this site. (This goes for information about other girls too. Although I enjoy the reviews and have posted my share, I look at the general posts here as entertainment, not for an abundance of specific information. That should be shared in PM's) Like I said. This is just my opinion.Thought I am not a senior member, at least not yet, I agree with you. Unless the Hooter Girl okays you handing out her number I won't do it. If she wants to go the BP route that would be up to her.
I have gotten a few PM's in my time on here and I will only reveal general info on girls (looks, personality, etc. Never what they will and will not do) and whether I would recommend them or not. What happens between me and any provider is only our business.
Member #4178
11-03-11, 18:30
Let me start off by saying that I have aways given info to seniors (and to two pup pop) when requested (all but one time) and I do like to help people. But am getting requests from people with zero posts two post ect, mostly about hooters girl. I would like for the seniors on this thread to let me know what you think about letting this info out to everyone. BTW don,t get your panties in a wad if you don,t get the info you request ,Thanks
I would not share with Newbies and Non-Seniors and here is my reasons why:
A- This girl (and I haven't seen her) seems to be one of those classic and cherished "Under the Radar" gems. If she's not advertising on BP and other sites, then she might have a reason. Although she might appreciate some qualified referrals, she might not like getting calls from every Joe off the street (whether they are LEO or not)
B- Non-Seniors who do not have a proven review record (and unfortunately some Seniors get that status WITHOUT posting a quality review) could very possibly be LEO and you could easily be setting this girl up for trouble.
C-There are plenty of girls in town who advertise that these guys can meet and then post a review. If they really want to bust their monger cherry with a Hooters Girl, then I suggest that they go to Hooters and start throwing around the cash. They just might get lucky.
Sorry if this seems unfair. But I'd hate to see this girl on the Mugshot website because info was shared too loosely on this site. (This goes for information about other girls too. Although I enjoy the reviews and have posted my share, I look at the general posts here as entertainment, not for an abundance of specific information. That should be shared in PM's) Like I said. This is just my opinion.
I don't think there's anything magical about being a "senior" and I'll oftentimes give info to non-seniors who have at least 10 or so meaningful posts but if you have zero posts don't bother me. I don't care if you claim to know Barbie or Alexis or mother fucking theresa, I'm not respnding to you if you've never had balls enough to post a single review. With all due respect, leave me the fug alone and quit cluttering my inbox!Well stated by all of you. I do appreciate being included, although not a senior (only for about 2 more weeks!) , but I have been very active on the boards, and didn't post or ask questions until after my first dream, when I posted a review. Since then, I've posted reviews on each "new" girl I've dreamed about, and occasionally updated on the ones I dreamed about more than once (Barbie in particular!). There's plenty of information to make an informed choice on who to dream about without PM'ing members when we have NO IDEA who you are; Mundane's point about seeing this girl on Mugshots is exactly why I don't generally respond to requests for info from anyone with less than about 10 posts, and especially those with only 1-3 posts. So man up and either dream of one of the trusted providers with many reviews already posted (you know, RTFF!) , or TOFTT with a new girl (after due diligence Tineye'ing and Googling the pics and phone number). Then post about your dream. You don't have to have hundreds of posts, but you do have to have enough quality posts for people to trust you.
I have not been sending dreams report lately except to others on this sight, because I could just google my handle and see what I have posted. It would be very bad if my wife would ever see them.
Vol Man6203
11-03-11, 22:49
I don't think there's anything magical about being a "senior" and I'll oftentimes give info to non-seniors who have at least 10 or so meaningful posts but if you have zero posts don't bother me. I don't care if you claim to know Barbie or Alexis or mother fucking theresa, I'm not respnding to you if you've never had balls enough to post a single review. With all due respect, leave me the fug alone and quit cluttering my inbox!WOW! Aren't we full of ourselves! First of all I don't know you and I'm in no place to pass judgement so please don't do the same to me. Some of us are long time lurkers and have been so for a long long time. There is alot I have observed and I don't feel the need to post. If you care so much about protecting the hooters girl why the fuck are there so many posts about where she works I guess, what she looks like, and what she does? If you want to be so dam protective just pm each other and keep it on the down low! Every other provider that has come on the scene usually posts on their own if they want their shit plastered all over this forum. So think about that. Maybe it's your balls that need massaging with this post and talking about Amber. And my panties aren't in a wad! I just find your attitude that you are all that because you post a review and act like those of us that don't are lacking in balls. There are lots of other places to find info. So I will try to grow some balls like you and post. Some of us have been in this game a lot longer than your ass. So if your not going to provide info to all then just pm it to your buddies who have "balls". That way us castrated lurkers won't know what a sanctimonious SOB you are. Hope this doesn't clutter your inbox!
WOW! Aren't we full of ourselves! First of all I don't know you and I'm in no place to pass judgement so please don't do the same to me. Some of us are long time lurkers and have been so for a long long time. There is alot I have observed and I don't feel the need to post. If you care so much about protecting the hooters girl why the fuck are there so many posts about where she works I guess, what she looks like, and what she does? If you want to be so dam protective just pm each other and keep it on the down low! Every other provider that has come on the scene usually posts on their own if they want their shit plastered all over this forum. So think about that. Maybe it's your balls that need massaging with this post and talking about Amber. And my panties aren't in a wad! I just find your attitude that you are all that because you post a review and act like those of us that don't are lacking in balls. There are lots of other places to find info. So I will try to grow some balls like you and post. Some of us have been in this game a lot longer than your ass. So if your not going to provide info to all then just pm it to your buddies who have "balls". That way us castrated lurkers won't know what a sanctimonious SOB you are. Hope this doesn't clutter your inbox!Wow vol man good first post, hope you feel better now. Go big orange.
Thought I am not a senior member, at least not yet, I agree with you. Unless the Hooter Girl okays you handing out her number I won't do it. If she wants to go the BP route that would be up to her.
I have gotten a few PM's in my time on here and I will only reveal general info on girls (looks, personality, etc. Never what they will and will not do) and whether I would recommend them or not. What happens between me and any provider is only our business.I have to say, I kind of disagree with that one.
This forum is supposed to be about the sharing of information and to me, that includes what's on the menu and how much.
That way, others have a better idea of whether or not THEY would have a good time with a given provider.
Using myself as an example, I'm not at all interested a GFE.
I don't want to kiss or cuddle or take her to dinner.
On the other hand, both BBBJ and BBFS are pluses to me.
BBFS might well be a negative for a guy who's not willing to take the risk.
So, in my opinion, the more information you provide, the more useful the report and it's not like we're talking about hooking up with some girl at work and then going back and telling everybody what she did, we're talking about girls who are selling it.
I guess my rant is another shining example of why its probably a good idea to avoid posting in this or any other forum while even under the slightest influence of alcohol. LOL! To the extent that I came across as sanctimonious, I apologize. But I stand by the substance of what I said.
I am more than glad to share helpful information with those who have demonstrated the willingness to do the same. But this forum is about give and take. And if you want to take, you need to give. At least a little. Just makes common sense, don't you think?
There's a lot of very useful information available within the public forum, and you don't have to do one single thing to access that information. But I can't think of one good reason why I should provide personal, private information (which a girl has chosen not to provide to the public) to a member who's never even posted a single review.
I spent a great deal of time yesterday responding to PMs and, again, I'm happy to do that with those who do the same. Several of my PM responses yesterday were to non-seniors with 7-20 posts. I don't have a problem with that in most cases. But zero posts?
And for what its worth, I received PMs from at least three members with zero posts (and several others with 3 or less) so Volman you weren't the only one.
That's all I've got to say. Sorry for coming across as a horse's ass. Sweet dreams to all.
Sexhoundtn2
11-04-11, 08:09
WOW! Aren't we full of ourselves! First of all I don't know you and I'm in no place to pass judgement so please don't do the same to me. Some of us are long time lurkers and have been so for a long long time. There is alot I have observed and I don't feel the need to post. If you care so much about protecting the hooters girl why the fuck are there so many posts about where she works I guess, what she looks like, and what she does? If you want to be so dam protective just pm each other and keep it on the down low! Every other provider that has come on the scene usually posts on their own if they want their shit plastered all over this forum. So think about that. Maybe it's your balls that need massaging with this post and talking about Amber. And my panties aren't in a wad! I just find your attitude that you are all that because you post a review and act like those of us that don't are lacking in balls. There are lots of other places to find info. So I will try to grow some balls like you and post. Some of us have been in this game a lot longer than your ass. So if your not going to provide info to all then just pm it to your buddies who have "balls". That way us castrated lurkers won't know what a sanctimonious SOB you are. Hope this doesn't clutter your inbox!Great first post genius. Really good way to earn trust and gain respect. By trashing a Senior member and especially one of status.
Anyone heard of a grl named Vanessa? She emailed me, TCB, and Kaylee this morning and last night saying she is a provider in Knox, just moved here.
I have never heard of her before, but that isn't saying much. I would like to visit / dream of her cause she is HOT, but worried about her being legit.
Search turns up nothing on my end. I can provide # and pic if needed. If you have any info on her, could you pm me?
I know I am fairly new to posting, but I have been reviewed as a provider on here for a while (Luv the guys too) and am very discreet and trusted.
Sweet Dreams,
Anna
I have not been sending dreams report lately except to others on this sight, because I could just google my handle and see what I have posted. It would be very bad if my wife would ever see them.That's why it is best not to have a handle here that you use in other places. Speaking of that is there any way to change handles?
I have to say, I kind of disagree with that one.
This forum is supposed to be about the sharing of information and to me, that includes what's on the menu and how much.
That way, others have a better idea of whether or not THEY would have a good time with a given provider.
Using myself as an example, I'm not at all interested a GFE.
I don't want to kiss or cuddle or take her to dinner.
On the other hand, both BBBJ and BBFS are pluses to me.
BBFS might well be a negative for a guy who's not willing to take the risk.
So, in my opinion, the more information you provide, the more useful the report and it's not like we're talking about hooking up with some girl at work and then going back and telling everybody what she did, we're talking about girls who are selling it.I see your point but it's been my observation that it depends on the client and provider as to the service provided. I've known girls that were totally GFE with me and others on here saying they wouldn't provide BBBJ or even lissing. And I'm sure it has worked the other way on me as well. Sometimes you just click with a csrtain girl that others don't.
I also try to give a new girl a little time to get the hang of things. I know Alexis, Christina, and Cake had a rough start with reviews but learned from their mistakes and became ATF for a lot of us.
[QUOTE=PinkFloyd; 1310413]I don't think there's anything magical about being a "senior" and I'll oftentimes give info to non-seniors who have at least 10 or so meaningful posts but if you have zero posts don't bother me. I don't care if you claim to know Barbie or Alexis or mother fucking theresa, I'm not respnding to you if you've never had balls enough to post a single review. With all due respect, leave me the fug alone and quit cluttering my inbox.
I'm with Pink. If you don't have the reviews to back it up. Don't try PMing the seniors. It aint going to happen!
That's why it is best not to have a handle here that you use in other places. Speaking of that is there any way to change handles?I'm pretty good with computers, even run a few websites myself and from what I can tell, there's not a way to change your screenamne here.
An admin could probably change it for you, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do it yourself.
I was bored and hungover last Sunday morning and decided to throw out some bait and see if I got a few bites. I had two amongst all the usual bs spam and finally got around to setting it up. Dreamed I met a cute little spinner type brunette with a very cute accent. Very good BBBJ and very tight. Told me this was her first time doing this and I can believe it as she was pretty nervous to begin with but after some conversation she calmed down. Cost me a little over $$ (including price of room) but I think it was money well spent.
She didn't give any indication she wanted more business and I didn't ask so no number. Just thought I would post this so others could see that with a little patience you can find happiness on CL.
Vol Man6203
11-05-11, 00:23
Great first post genius. Really good way to earn trust and gain respect. By trashing a Senior member and especially one of status.I rest my case after the posting of Ambers face pics all over the place. That's the way to protect her from all of us and LE. Not trashing anyone. Looks like I was right. If common sense and courtesy were involved her pics wouldn't be plastered all over the place. Who in their right mind would think that was right? Just calling it like I see it.
Dr Holiday
11-05-11, 07:21
I rest my case after the posting of Ambers face pics all over the place. That's the way to protect her from all of us and LE. Not trashing anyone. Looks like I was right. If common sense and courtesy were involved her pics wouldn't be plastered all over the place. Who in their right mind would think that was right? Just calling it like I see it.You are so right.
I rest my case after the posting of Ambers face pics all over the place. That's the way to protect her from all of us and LE. Not trashing anyone. Looks like I was right. If common sense and courtesy were involved her pics wouldn't be plastered all over the place. Who in their right mind would think that was right? Just calling it like I see it.Agreed VM. Was a bad judgement call on the member (s) that posted them
Agreed VM. Was a bad judgement call on the member (s) that posted themI don't disagree, but it was also a bad judgment call on her part for posing for them in the first place.
Jj Dillion 2
11-06-11, 22:07
Why Do anglea's escort have harley on a blacklist on their website saying that harley is a ripoff. Well I know that one of the Anglea's girls (Layla) is a Crackhead and as a matter of fact they once had her on their blacklist saying that she theaf and she has drug problems. I really feel that Anglea's is a big ripoff
Out Of Towner2
11-07-11, 06:02
Why Do anglea's escort have harley on a blacklist on their website saying that harley is a ripoff. Well I know that one of the Anglea's girls (Layla) is a Crackhead and as a matter of fact they once had her on their blacklist saying that she theaf and she has drug problems. I really feel that Anglea's is a big ripoffI think I remember seeing on their site one time a note stating,"If you have outstanding dues or other debts owed, get them in fast before we update the Blacklist." It sounds like there is some organizational dues or referral bounties that are paid.
Only posted here acouple of times but thought I would post today about a very interesting experience I had at the physical therapist. I was involved in a wreck a few months back and now in physical therapy for a leg injury already completed my excersises and was in a small curtained off room where they do the electro stimulation and one of the girls came in to check on me attractive early thirties blond nice figure. She sat down and was checking the machine and making small talk and due to my confidence thanks to the pain killers jokingly said only thing that would make this better was a HE. She Just smiled got up and left I'm thinking to my self great won't be allowed to come back here anymore seeing as this is a actual physical therapy center. I could here the woman talking to o e of the other employees couldn't make out what she was saying but needless to say I was worried. A few minutes later the other therapist comes in a man worked with him before says its going to be a few minutes and we will get you out of here his disposition didn't seem to me like he was calling LE or anything just figured I had made girl uncomfortable and she sent him In to finish. I get done put my shoes on made appointments for next week and the swomen I had made remark to earlier said I need you to step into office to fill out some papers well I get all nervous again we go in and she closes door to my surprise She says to me all she will do is a HJ she pulls out a bottle of ky from the ultrasound cart and says this is going to cost insurance doesn't cover this procedure she said it will be 40. At this point I am so suprised and excited I didn't think twice. She got started let me play with her tits under her shirt and let me finish squeeze her as but no fingers. She saying the whole time My back hurts and complaining about pain. She knew I had pain pills and had them on me. She finished me in record time a little landing in her hair that I didn't tell her about cleaned me up and as she stood up grabbed her back. I new it was all a play but gave her money and something to help ease the pain. She gave me a little kiss and said see ya next week. Out of all the places to get this I would have never even guessed this would have been one of them but hey guess it don't hurt to ask. Would give name and location to trusted but has to be by doctor referral so sorry guys this is my spot LOL. Does anyone know any girls in the Roane county area since the wreck can't drive to Knox without alot of discomfort pm's always welcomed but do understand the trust thing so appreciate the help if any and happy mongering.
Vol Man6203
11-08-11, 17:24
Only posted here acouple of times but thought I would post today about a very interesting experience I had at the physical therapist. I was involved in a wreck a few months back and now in physical therapy for a leg injury already completed my excersises and was in a small curtained off room where they do the electro stimulation and one of the girls came in to check on me attractive early thirties blond nice figure. She sat down and was checking the machine and making small talk and due to my confidence thanks to the pain killers jokingly said only thing that would make this better was a HE. She Just smiled got up and left I'm thinking to my self great won't be allowed to come back here anymore seeing as this is a actual physical therapy center. I could here the woman talking to o e of the other employees couldn't make out what she was saying but needless to say I was worried. A few minutes later the other therapist comes in a man worked with him before says its going to be a few minutes and we will get you out of here his disposition didn't seem to me like he was calling LE or anything just figured I had made girl uncomfortable and she sent him In to finish. I get done put my shoes on made appointments for next week and the swomen I had made remark to earlier said I need you to step into office to fill out some papers well I get all nervous again we go in and she closes door to my surprise She says to me all she will do is a HJ she pulls out a bottle of ky from the ultrasound cart and says this is going to cost insurance doesn't cover this procedure she said it will be 40. At this point I am so suprised and excited I didn't think twice. She got started let me play with her tits under her shirt and let me finish squeeze her as but no fingers. She saying the whole time My back hurts and complaining about pain. She knew I had pain pills and had them on me. She finished me in record time a little landing in her hair that I didn't tell her about cleaned me up and as she stood up grabbed her back. I new it was all a play but gave her money and something to help ease the pain. She gave me a little kiss and said see ya next week. Out of all the places to get this I would have never even guessed this would have been one of them but hey guess it don't hurt to ask. Would give name and location to trusted but has to be by doctor referral so sorry guys this is my spot LOL. Does anyone know any girls in the Roane county area since the wreck can't drive to Knox without alot of discomfort pm's always welcomed but do understand the trust thing so appreciate the help if any and happy mongering.WOW! That's when you walk out to your car and sit down and go "WTF just happened?" laughing just thinking about it. Holy shit! Lucky Bastard!
CandysCurves
11-10-11, 10:36
Hey Ladies and Lover's Of The Ladies:
Please share this info with the other community members. I have received 2 emails this week. One from a guy saying he has lost his cocaine supplier (used code words like 8ball etc) and the other was from a girl asking for adderall. Those that know me, know I don't even take Nyquil. I didn't even reply. But both said, they emailed other "local girls" asking for help. Be cautious seems like a setup to me.
Hello all.
I think I might have stumbled upon an UTR hottie. And will gladly share once I do my recon.
I need a suggestion of a cheap "notel" near north side. Not a rats nest but you get the point.
PM's please. Thanks
Member #4178
11-11-11, 13:25
Hello, all.
I think I might have stumbled upon an UTR hottie. And will gladly share once I do my recon.
I need a suggestion of a cheap "notel" near north side. Not a rats nest but you get the point.
PM's please. ThanksMost are going to be centered around Merchant's Drive. Anna used to like the Super 8. I think it's a little bit of a dump, but the place next to Outback is worse (this is where Brittany "licensed massage therapist" used to work. Some rooms are better than others). The RRI across on the other side of 75 is a little nicer. Not really nice, but not a dump, and very reasonably priced. That may fit the bill. The Quality Inn up at Callahan is where Lovely was working before her 2nd arrest, and it's a step down from the RRI. The Scottish on the other side of the interstate at Callahan is a dump.
Can't really tell you about any of the other places at Merchant's. I think they're a bit more expensive.
Good luck!
OutdoorBooty
11-11-11, 17:12
After all the hype about Amber I had to see for myself. Reviews seemed stellar, so what the heck.
Was nervous about BF situation, and all the "publicity" surrounding her lately but followed little head instead of big one.
Should have been more carefull!
Seemed out of it. Slurred words, incoherant sentences. Messed up on drugs imo.
Dudes clothes everywhere, general wreck.
Little head shrank away from the smell whn panties came off, settled for BBBJ, still not that good. Deff not worth the $.60.
Way better to be had for same $$
We need to give her a break so she can shower and see the snatch doc.
Very public location, noticed 2 guys hanging out when I left. One standing around close to door and one watching from a car. Pimp? Drug Dealer?
So what happens when the trio gets desperate?
I'm staying far away from this new one, and will just stick with my ATF.
Bonifino, I grew up in that area and used to work over that way.
I sent you a PM but I largely agree with what TwoPup said.
Also, the Quality Inn on Callahan is the one I told you in the PM that I couldn't remember the name of.
TwoPup may know the name, but there's another low rent notel on Merchant's that I can't remember the name of, but it's across the street from the new Pilot and behind the store that was the old Pilot.
Many, many moons ago, in a galaxy far far away, I had these 3 guys come in with a girl who was so drunk that they were holding her up so she could walk.
They were headed back to that notel and invited me to go with them.
I said no, because I was the only employee there and I kinda wanted to keep my job, but there are times I wish I had.
Second point, Candy, YOU may not use drugs, but in my experience, the majority of working girls do.
Odds are, somebody got your email and just assumed you would have contacts.
Hell, I don't do anything more than drink and the occasional OTC sleeping pill and even I know some dealers.
The worlds of sex for sell and drugs for sell are very intertwined and like I said, it's probably just somebody making an assumption.
Still, while I don't know you, I appreciate the heads up.
Stay safe.
Thanks Bo for the hook up. I saw Amber tonight and all I can say is wow. I am glad she decided to leave Pittsburg and come here. She is a definite keeper. She looks good & has a sweet figure. I don't usually go for the GFE thing or DFK at all but she surprised me with a kiss and it turned me on full blast and I was ready to go. First off, it was easy to get a hold of her & initially she didn't have the time I wanted but we worked out a time. I told her I would call & confirm 30 minutes ahead of time but she texted me about 32 minutes before and confirmed. I called her from the parking lot and she answered first ring and gave me room.
I went up to the room and after she let me in we chatted for a couple of minutes. I put her donation $.6 on the table and she thanked me & asked me to get comfortable. We both got undressed & I laid down on the bed and that is when she climbed on the bed and St first I thought she was going to go down on mw when she just slid up & kissed me. She then started giving me a BBBJ which was really good. She then brought those nice tits up to my mouth and I sucked & licked on them for a couple of minutes then we DFK while she worked me with her hand. She slid back down & jacked with her tits for a couple strokes. She then asked if I was ready for the raincoat and I was. She slid it on then mounted and started riding me like a champ, then went to mish for a bit then back to her on top when I finally exploded. She couldn't have been better. She was cool, accommodating & took her time. I gave her. 4 as a tip and promised to be back. She could easily become my ATF if subsequent visits go that smoothly. Only bad thing was her phone rang nonstop while I was there. She offered to stop and go turn it off but I said no I don't mind because it didn't bother me. She did turn it off after we were done while she cleaned me up. She seems like a good one. My first visit was up there with seeingAlexis or Tsuki back before she became so popular but you never can tell the brightest stars seem to burn out the fastest. Treat her right & she will be good to you.
Member #4178
11-12-11, 15:10
I've just spent a while perusing a fascinating thread with the above title on the Richmond, VA USASG board. We've tossed around the idea on the Knoxville threads of using some of these sites a couple times; I'm wondering if there would be any interest in a separate thread about these kind of "arrangements" for our Knoxville forum?
Reading through the Richmond thread has made me rethink my decision to not pursue anything on these type of sites; I believe I was approaching them the wrong way. When I saw a girl looking for a "Sugardaddy 18-20" I figured they wouldn't be interested in an old fart like me; reading that thread makes me believe they were probably just too lazy (or optimistic or something) to change it to something more realistic.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Take a few minutes to jump over and look at some of the info over there: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not/page49 (link is to the first / oldest pages in the thread, which was just started late last year). This might be a nice source for those UTR types, or possibly a way to find new talent to add to the local escort pool. There's also some good info there about the financial arrangements, etc involved in that kind of relationship. If you crave variety, that kind of arrangement may or may not be to your taste, but if you're looking for a steady piece on the side, and don't feel the need to hit a new hole every week, this might be of interest.
I'll be interested in what you think.
TPP
Hello, all.
I think I might have stumbled upon an UTR hottie. And will gladly share once I do my recon.
I need a suggestion of a cheap "notel" near north side. Not a rats nest but you get the point.
PM's please. ThanksI tried many of the motels around merchants and they all required seeing my drivers license. If there are any that don't, please let me know. I know the Motel 6 was the cheapest acceptable for me, around $40. There's a sleep inn on Central that was the nicest for the money, but it was close to $60, but no comparison in quality.
I've just spent a while perusing a fascinating thread with the above title on the Richmond, VA USASG board. We've tossed around the idea on the Knoxville threads of using some of these sites a couple times; I'm wondering if there would be any interest in a separate thread about these kind of "arrangements" for our Knoxville forum?
Reading through the Richmond thread has made me rethink my decision to not pursue anything on these type of sites; I believe I was approaching them the wrong way. When I saw a girl looking for a "Sugardaddy 18-20" I figured they wouldn't be interested in an old fart like me; reading that thread makes me believe they were probably just too lazy (or optimistic or something) to change it to something more realistic.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Take a few minutes to jump over and look at some of the info over there:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not/page49
(link is to the first / oldest pages in the thread, which was just started late last year). This might be a nice source for those UTR types, or possibly a way to find new talent to add to the local escort pool. There's also some good info there about the financial arrangements, etc involved in that kind of relationship. If you crave variety, that kind of arrangement may or may not be to your taste, but if you're looking for a steady piece on the side, and don't feel the need to hit a new hole every week, this might be of interest.
I'll be interested in what you think.
TPPGreat discussion item. Whether it should be a separate thread or not I will leave to more experienced members. I will share that based on a post here a couple of months ago, I joined one of the popular SD sites. I found a young, semi attractive woman who was "taking a semester off" from college.
I found the whole arrangement to be awkward as I found myself trying to decide if I should think of her like a potential mistress / girlfriend or like an escort. (Personally, I would love to find a nice mistress type with whom I could have a semi exclusive relationship. My SO and I live a great distance apart and I am able to be a little more open than most as far as being seen in public and spending significant amounts of time with someone.)
Now, I am admittedly a little reserved, but I did a dinner out with no cost (other than dinner) and did not push for a physical encounter. Then I made a terrible mistake, I let her plan our next outing and of course we went shopping. Well $700. 00 later, she's not a SB / mistress / girlfriend or an escort, she is a prostitute in my mind and I began calculating how many times / hrs I need in return to not feel like a chump. It was not the money entirely as I have spent more to help a girl I care about, it was the audacity of the girl. Of course I could have cut her off, but I was testing her character. Needless to say, she failed the test. I had the ability to be a real SD but she got greedy! Anyway, the good news, she was wide open for the physical encounters and was willing to hang out for hours before and after taking care of business. (Yes, I said business)
It lasted a few weeks and on an hourly basis I came out ahead, but the quality of the extra hours was not what I wanted because I did not enjoy her company like I do some girls.
I know this sounds weird but the whole arrangement seemed as much or more commercial than seeing an escort. This girl was ready to subordinate her personal life for cash, (small luxuries at that) whereas a lot of our quality girls consider what they do a job and not a total subordination of their personal lives. I learned I respect that approach more than the SD arrangement. I know I may be naive but if I am going to spend more than the occasional hour sweating up a $40 hotel room, I have to have some sort of respect for the person, regardless of whether I pay for it or meet them at church.
I am sure there are nice girls out in the SD world who just need help with some bills and are not looking to fill their closets with coach bags and Uggs, but that was my experience. I have canceled my membership to the site.
Thanks to TPP for the question!
I've just spent a while perusing a fascinating thread with the above title on the Richmond, VA USASG board. We've tossed around the idea on the Knoxville threads of using some of these sites a couple times; I'm wondering if there would be any interest in a separate thread about these kind of "arrangements" for our Knoxville forum?
Reading through the Richmond thread has made me rethink my decision to not pursue anything on these type of sites; I believe I was approaching them the wrong way. When I saw a girl looking for a "Sugardaddy 18-20" I figured they wouldn't be interested in an old fart like me; reading that thread makes me believe they were probably just too lazy (or optimistic or something) to change it to something more realistic.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Take a few minutes to jump over and look at some of the info over there:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not/page49
(link is to the first / oldest pages in the thread, which was just started late last year). This might be a nice source for those UTR types, or possibly a way to find new talent to add to the local escort pool. There's also some good info there about the financial arrangements, etc involved in that kind of relationship. If you crave variety, that kind of arrangement may or may not be to your taste, but if you're looking for a steady piece on the side, and don't feel the need to hit a new hole every week, this might be of interest.
I'll be interested in what you think.
TPPOh yea, if you do go the SD route, be prepared to get spammed by every woman under 50 in Russia.
Dr Holiday
11-13-11, 23:09
Oh yea, if you do go the SD route, be prepared to get spammed by every woman under 50 in Russia.Too many fakes. Young ones unrealistic. Want 18-20 rich sugardaddy. Now how many are their of those. Ones that will will take us old farts. Not cute older. And I'm not interested.
Know some guys that have scored on those sites. However, women are all late 30-40ish. Heavy set body types
I'm spending the money on a sugarbaby. She's going to knock your eyes out and be 20ish.
Dr Holiday
11-13-11, 23:12
Great discussion item. Whether it should be a separate thread or not I will leave to more experienced members. I will share that based on a post here a couple of months ago, I joined one of the popular SD sites. I found a young, semi attractive woman who was "taking a semester off" from college.
I found the whole arrangement to be awkward as I found myself trying to decide if I should think of her like a potential mistress / girlfriend or like an escort. (Personally, I would love to find a nice mistress type with whom I could have a semi exclusive relationship. My SO and I live a great distance apart and I am able to be a little more open than most as far as being seen in public and spending significant amounts of time with someone.)
Now, I am admittedly a little reserved, but I did a dinner out with no cost (other than dinner) and did not push for a physical encounter. Then I made a terrible mistake, I let her plan our next outing and of course we went shopping. Well $700. 00 later, she's not a SB / mistress / girlfriend or an escort, she is a prostitute in my mind and I began calculating how many times / hrs I need in return to not feel like a chump. It was not the money entirely as I have spent more to help a girl I care about, it was the audacity of the girl. Of course I could have cut her off, but I was testing her character. Needless to say, she failed the test. I had the ability to be a real SD but she got greedy! Anyway, the good news, she was wide open for the physical encounters and was willing to hang out for hours before and after taking care of business. (Yes, I said business)
It lasted a few weeks and on an hourly basis I came out ahead, but the quality of the extra hours was not what I wanted because I did not enjoy her company like I do some girls.
I know this sounds weird but the whole arrangement seemed as much or more commercial than seeing an escort. This girl was ready to subordinate her personal life for cash, (small luxuries at that) whereas a lot of our quality girls consider what they do a job and not a total subordination of their personal lives. I learned I respect that approach more than the SD arrangement. I know I may be naive but if I am going to spend more than the occasional hour sweating up a $40 hotel room, I have to have some sort of respect for the person, regardless of whether I pay for it or meet them at church.
I am sure there are nice girls out in the SD world who just need help with some bills and are not looking to fill their closets with coach bags and Uggs, but that was my experience. I have canceled my membership to the site.
Thanks to TPP for the question!Purchase (marriage or girlfriend) is way more expensive than either lease or rental
Call me cynical but you always pay for it. Even if you meet them at church. Pay is some way or the other. IMO the so called free ones are the most expensive.
Purchase (marriage or girlfriend) is way more expensive than either lease or rental
Call me cynical but you always pay for it. Even if you meet them at church. Pay is some way or the other. IMO the so called free ones are the most expensive.I agree. Believe me, I am paying for an ex wife, a Long term SO and until recently a Sugar Baby. All this while struggling with a serious addiction to a certain local lady.
Below is the last line of my post #1004 from the Escort Report thread. Now, more than ever they seem like words to live by:
"If it Flys, Floats or Fucks, for God's sake Lease It!"
Has anyone had a massage by the lady the advertises on CL and goes by the name Reign. On occassion I like to get a good quality massage and if offered a HE h / j. She sure appears to have a lot of experience. Just wondering if she is good.
Thanks
Dr Holiday
11-14-11, 12:35
[QUOTE=Senna5194;
Below is the last line of my post #1004 from the Escort Report thread. Now, more than ever they seem like words to live by:
"If it Flys, Floats or Fucks, for God's sake Lease It!"[/QUOTE] Never truer words senna. LOL
BTW.. i can relate to your "shopping excursion".. be taken that away by sugar baby too...
Amber and all ladies
I promise I will be on time for an appointment, and never pull a, no show on you.
I promise I will never short you on payment.
I promise I will never become violent in your presents, unless I am defending myself or you from an aggressor.
I promise I will never conspire with, nor turn you in over to, Uncle LEO.
I promise I will I will do my utmost to see to it, that we both have a pleasant, and enjoyable time together.
Lastly and most importantly, if you leave me standing in the parking lot, with my dick in my hand, while your phone goes unanswered, Like Amber did me today. I promise I will take my hand full of greenback to someone else, and delete your info, from my fun phone, now, and for all time. In Amber defense fifteen minutes late, she did text me to come back later. Same thing as a no show, Honey, that shit don't fly. If I had all day to wait on a woman, I would not make an appointment a day in advance, or pay so much for your time.
Nick
Has anyone had a massage by the lady the advertises on CL and goes by the name Reign. On occassion I like to get a good quality massage and if offered a HE h / j. She sure appears to have a lot of experience. Just wondering if she is good.
ThanksDude, that's a good one! You need to read the post much more carefully. She is not a she, and to contradict her / him I don't think she / he is "passable" either! But whatever floats your boat brother.
Has anyone had a massage by the lady the advertises on CL and goes by the name Reign. On occassion I like to get a good quality massage and if offered a HE h / j. She sure appears to have a lot of experience. Just wondering if she is good.
Thanks"She" is a TS.
The information available in this forum proves to be invaluable!
"She" is a TS.
Amber and all ladies
I promise I will be on time for an appointment, and never pull a, no show on you.
I promise I will never short you on payment.
I promise I will never become violent in your presents, unless I am defending myself or you from an aggressor.
I promise I will never conspire with, nor turn you in over to, Uncle LEO.
I promise I will I will do my utmost to see to it, that we both have a pleasant, and enjoyable time together.
Lastly and most importantly, if you leave me standing in the parking lot, with my dick in my hand, while your phone goes unanswered, Like Amber did me today. I promise I will take my hand full of greenback to someone else, and delete your info, from my fun phone, now, and for all time. In Amber defense fifteen minutes late, she did text me to come back later. Same thing as a no show, Honey, that shit don't fly. If I had all day to wait on a woman, I would not make an appointment a day in advance, or pay so much for your time.
NickI don't know Amber, I have no connection with her at all, but.
Shit DOES happen.
On both sides of the equation.
Nevermind pros, I've had to stand up legit dates a few times because something else came up and no, I don't mean a hotter date.
All I have to say is bingo.
Just left Alexis and I do have a smile on my face. Still need to check Veronica out though.
These two providers offer very different experiences: Alexis is more laid-back, almost Californian (in a good way) in attitude. Voronica is more intense and seems more actively engaged in the session. Both are incredibly good-looking, though in very different ways. Alexis is skinny but with very nice features; Voronica is more curvy, with that special Latin spice that isn't easy to find here in East Podunk.
Got a multimedia message from her, with a neat pic, and voicemail apologizing for having lost her phone last week around our appt time. Might give her a second chance sometime next week.
Has anyone else taken the plunge?Zeppie did you ever get this lined up?
I don't know Amber, I have no connection with her at all, but.
Shit DOES happen.
On both sides of the equation.
Nevermind pros, I've had to stand up legit dates a few times because something else came up and no, I don't mean a hotter date.
Amber and all ladies
I promise I will be on time for an appointment, and never pull a, no show on you.
I promise I will never short you on payment.
I promise I will never become violent in your presents, unless I am defending myself or you from an aggressor.
I promise I will never conspire with, nor turn you in over to, Uncle LEO.
I promise I will I will do my utmost to see to it, that we both have a pleasant, and enjoyable time together.
Lastly and most importantly, if you leave me standing in the parking lot, with my dick in my hand, while your phone goes unanswered, Like Amber did me today. I promise I will take my hand full of greenback to someone else, and delete your info, from my fun phone, now, and for all time. In Amber defense fifteen minutes late, she did text me to come back later. Same thing as a no show, Honey, that shit don't fly. If I had all day to wait on a woman, I would not make an appointment a day in advance, or pay so much for your time.
NickI got a kick out of reading Nicks creed. It reminded me of myself in almost every way. I understand what both of you are saying, and IMHO I have to say that I split the difference with you on the timing. I will usually give any well reviewed lady a pass for the inevitable "life happens" moments. However, two times late and you're no good to me. Like Nick I make appointments in advance, but unlike most mongers I also PAY in advance (mine is via Paypal to trusted ladies reviewed on these boards). My only time for a date is when I am at lunch or leave work for a "meeting" or some other excuse that I can't abuse. When I do leave I have no time to spend just sitting around. My time is just as valuable as hers, and I expect it to be treated with just as much respect.
Amber and all ladies
I promise I will be on time for an appointment, and never pull a, no show on you.
I promise I will never short you on payment.
I promise I will never become violent in your presents, unless I am defending myself or you from an aggressor.
I promise I will never conspire with, nor turn you in over to, Uncle LEO.
I promise I will I will do my utmost to see to it, that we both have a pleasant, and enjoyable time together.
Lastly and most importantly, if you leave me standing in the parking lot, with my dick in my hand, while your phone goes unanswered, Like Amber did me today. I promise I will take my hand full of greenback to someone else, and delete your info, from my fun phone, now, and for all time. In Amber defense fifteen minutes late, she did text me to come back later. Same thing as a no show, Honey, that shit don't fly. If I had all day to wait on a woman, I would not make an appointment a day in advance, or pay so much for your time.
NickI'd gladly take Nicks pledge. Of my last 4 appointments 3 have been NSPE. (No shows with plenty of excuses) Including one reputable agency which I've used frequently which still hasn't responded to a call, text or e-mail a month later. One other was a highly reviewed indy, the other another newby.
The 1 in 4 who did come through was Amber, but she was still an hour late.
I don't remember it being this way even a couple of years ago. I'm thinking the bad economy and the ease of BP has brought girls into the biz who otherwise would be out on the stroll, and brought all their bad habits with them. At the same time the low return on investment has chased away some of what had been usually reliable pro's.
Those who look at it as a temporary quick score don't approach it as a business, aren't that worried about their reps and will happily double book, or be easily distracted by enough cash to go get high and forget all about you until the phone rings.
That's why exceptional reasonable providers like Alexis and Barbie (damn I miss her) are so valuable. I had high hopes for Amber, but I'm seeing some bad signs.
Welcome to the new normal.
Member #6355
11-15-11, 09:56
Zeppie did you ever get this lined up?Just scroll down a few pages.
Sorry you had this experience. I've seen her several times in the last couple of weeks and had no issues at all. In fact, she responds with my name and says,"when can I see you?"
Alexis does this and Barbie used to do it too. Love this kind of treatment. YMMV but I find Amber to be a new hit in the local scene. Hope it lasts.
Best wishes and happy dreams.
Amber and all ladies
I promise I will be on time for an appointment, and never pull a, no show on you.
I promise I will never short you on payment.
I promise I will never become violent in your presents, unless I am defending myself or you from an aggressor.
I promise I will never conspire with, nor turn you in over to, Uncle LEO.
I promise I will I will do my utmost to see to it, that we both have a pleasant, and enjoyable time together.
Lastly and most importantly, if you leave me standing in the parking lot, with my dick in my hand, while your phone goes unanswered, Like Amber did me today. I promise I will take my hand full of greenback to someone else, and delete your info, from my fun phone, now, and for all time. In Amber defense fifteen minutes late, she did text me to come back later. Same thing as a no show, Honey, that shit don't fly. If I had all day to wait on a woman, I would not make an appointment a day in advance, or pay so much for your time.
Nick
Here's what happened to our old standby:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/pam/news/2011/R.S.%20Duffy_A-1_11_1_2011.htm
Copy and paste the entire URL
Dang it! Can't get the link to work. To net it out E.com is having to pay the feds 6.5 million
Member #6355
11-15-11, 11:46
Anyone heard of a grl named Vanessa? She emailed me, TCB, and Kaylee this morning and last night saying she is a provider in Knox, just moved here.
I have never heard of her before, but that isn't saying much. I would like to visit / dream of her cause she is HOT, but worried about her being legit.
Search turns up nothing on my end. I can provide # and pic if needed. If you have any info on her, could you pm me?
AnnaIf anyone turned anything up on this matter, I would also appreciate a PM. In the past few weeks, "Vanessa" has contacted every provider I've dreamed about in town, and "she's" been throwing around lots of dreamer names from this site, including yours truly. This could be trouble.
Supposedly "Vanessa" has moved here from Atlanta, but there are quite a few Vanessas listed on That othER site in Atlanta.
I got a kick out of reading Nicks creed. It reminded me of myself in almost every way. I understand what both of you are saying, and IMHO I have to say that I split the difference with you on the timing. I will usually give any well reviewed lady a pass for the inevitable "life happens" moments. However, two times late and you're no good to me. Like Nick I make appointments in advance, but unlike most mongers I also PAY in advance (mine is via Paypal to trusted ladies reviewed on these boards). My only time for a date is when I am at lunch or leave work for a "meeting" or some other excuse that I can't abuse. When I do leave I have no time to spend just sitting around. My time is just as valuable as hers, and I expect it to be treated with just as much respect.Well, to start with, my entire life situation is different from what yours seems to be.
I'm single and self-employed and so the only person I have to account to for my time is myself.
I would NEVER pay in advance and I also would never pay in any traceable way.
The only way I pay is cash and I can prove that my usual method of doing all of my business is, draw cash from an ATM and then buy whatever I need.
Maybe I bought groceries.
Maybe I bought a new battery for my car.
Maybe I paid the kid down the street to mow my yard.
Maybe I paid for a piece of ass.
Who's to say?
I also don't really do the escort, let's schedule a time thing.
In fact, I've never done that.
I mostly partake of street action, with an occasional online ad from a girl who needs some "help."
I've also accidentally stumbled into a couple of girls who were willing to give it up for some money.
I've never done the call up 1-800-ineedaho thing and so I can't comment there.
Here's what happened to our old standby:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/pam/news/2011/R.S.
%20Duffy_A-1_11_1_2011. Htm.
Copy and paste the entire URL.
Dang it! Can't get the link to work. To net it out E. Com is having to pay the feds 6. 5 millionYeah, this site parses URLs in an odd way.
Sometimes, you have to manually add BBC tags to get the links to work.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/pam/news/2011/R.S.%20Duffy_A-1_11_1_2011.htm
As for the article, as long as they are over 18, the feds couldn't give a fuck less about somebody selling gash for cash.
However, they REALLY don't like money laundering, which is also not only tax evasion, but a potential threat to national security in that the laundered money could be being used to fund terrorist activities.
They used to see it as just tax evasion, but after 9/11, they got really hardcore in that they also saw it as a threat to national security.
How long does it take to become senior or does it go off of post or what.
Has anyone had a massage by the lady the advertises on CL and goes by the name Reign. On occassion I like to get a good quality massage and if offered a HE h / j. She sure appears to have a lot of experience. Just wondering if she is good.
ThanksIf you're looking for a decent massage and a happy ending (HJ) , you can check out Amber with the ad below.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-quintessential-massage/4127732
How long does it take to become senior or does it go off of post or what.It's in the FAQs, but if I remember right, it's 25 posts AND six months as a member.
Sexhoundtn2
11-16-11, 11:21
If you're looking for a decent massage and a happy ending (HJ) , you can check out Amber with the ad below.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-quintessential-massage/4127732I am NOT saying this is the same person because I have saw either one of them. But at onetime there was a TS named Reign that posted info the W4M under massage and you could see the TS aspects. Again NOT saying it is the same person. But it may be worth double checking.
You guy's spoke and I listened, I met up with the famous Amber today and I was incredibility pleased that I did. She is everything Pink described and more. Take care of this one, she is a keeper.
Thanks Amber, Thanks for the great entertainment, and for the memories to keep me warm at night.
Nick
Member #4178
11-16-11, 12:49
How long does it take to become senior or does it go off of post or what.6 months to the day, and I'm a senior member. I already pm'd you, but the other posts are correct!
You know I'll never lead you astray. Now I might lead you into bankruptcy or divorce but never astray!
You guy's spoke and I listened, I met up with the famous Amber today and I was incredibility pleased that I did. She is everything Pink described and more. Take care of this one, she is a keeper.
Thanks Amber, Thanks for the great entertainment, and for the memories to keep me warm at night.
Nick
TommyThumbless
11-16-11, 16:34
I am NOT saying this is the same person because I have saw either one of them. But at onetime there was a TS named Reign that posted info the W4M under massage and you could see the TS aspects. Again NOT saying it is the same person. But it may be worth double checking.Amber is a lovely BBW actual CMT who gives an hour long massage with a HE for a benjie. She is very sweet but not into the he very much, eyes closed and fully dressed the whole time, although she did let me play with her rather large bossom. She also likes to chat a little much and brough tup her ex a lot.
Reign is definitely a TS. I actually visted her / him a couple of years ago. I know, I know, but judge not lest ye be judged. Curiosity I reckon morethan anything. Reign was very professional, although not very passable, but who knows what two more years of hormons have done. Long story short, it was an amazing massage with a really skilled HE, including some prostate work. You can tell there has been professional training. And I kept my glasses off so I couldn't see anything but a blur anyway. I haven't repeated because my curiosity was satisfied but wouldn't be opposed to the idea. To be blunt, if you can look past the adam's apple it was a great massage and dream. If only one of the ladies could offer such good service.
I am NOT saying this is the same person because I have saw either one of them. But at onetime there was a TS named Reign that posted info the W4M under massage and you could see the TS aspects. Again NOT saying it is the same person. But it may be worth double checking.Definitely Maryville Amber is not a dude.
If anyone turned anything up on this matter, I would also appreciate a PM. In the past few weeks,"Vanessa" has contacted every provider I've dreamed about in town, and "she's" been throwing around lots of dreamer names from this site, including yours truly. This could be trouble.
Supposedly "Vanessa" has moved here from Atlanta, but there are quite a few Vanessas listed on That othER site in Atlanta.Anna forwarded me the picture and phone number of "Vanessa". The picture shows up on three porn sites, two of them foreign. The phone number is a Rockwood TN number. It shows no activity on CL or other such sites. She is obviously a fake and we should be careful.
I couldn't help myself but treat myself to her again. I saw her several days ago but hadn't had a chance to post. She is really a treat and I really cannot say anything more than I have already said but you cannot go wrong with her. I, really, like her body, I love her tits. I like the little body with the nice size boobs. Unfortunately, most of Knoxville's slim talent lacks a significant rack but not Amber. I will repeat ASAP, in fact would have today but no luck reaching her.
This isn't really a report, it's more of a question, but the thought has occurred to me.
With Christmas coming up and the economy being what it is, this could be the perfect time to hook up with some UTR mommy types who normally wouldn't be selling it and I'll admit, that turns me on in ways that being with a pro doesn't.
I'm just curious what others think and have you had any experiences with something like that?
Dr Holiday
11-21-11, 13:31
This isn't really a report, it's more of a question, but the thought has occurred to me.
With Christmas coming up and the economy being what it is, this could be the perfect time to hook up with some UTR mommy types who normally wouldn't be selling it and I'll admit, that turns me on in ways that being with a pro doesn't.
I'm just curious what others think and have you had any experiences with something like that?The non-pro UTR types is where I almost always play. Rarely go with the pros. UTR types more expensive but less risk IMO. I'm a wus and scared of SWs and BP types.
Yep. Its the UTR time of the year. When the little darlings don't have the cash for presents. They damn near wear me out. Waitresses, lawyers (yep for real) , school teachers etc. My favorite was a female police officer. Damn good fuck and it amused me to be breaking the law with the cop. Too bad haven't seen her in a long while. Real squirter when excited. Embarrassed the heck out of her.
If I remember right she got mad and shot somebody off duty with her service revolver and got canned. Last time I saw her was on the web doing porno in Florida. Can't miss that squirting.
However, the two weeks right after Christmas I find to be better. They have overspent and don't have the money for jan rent, utilities etc. Panic sets in and types that normally wouldn't or haven't ever before now go UTR.
If you got the cash. Tis the season to be jolly.
The non-pro UTR types is where I almost always play. Rarely go with the pros. UTR types more expensive but less risk IMO. I'm a wus and scared of SWs and BP types.
Yep. Its the UTR time of the year. When the little darlings don't have the cash for presents. They damn near wear me out. Waitresses, lawyers (yep for real) , school teachers etc. My favorite was a female police officer. Damn good fuck and it amused me to be breaking the law with the cop. Too bad haven't seen her in a long while. Real squirter when excited. Embarrassed the heck out of her.
If I remember right she got mad and shot somebody off duty with her service revolver and got canned. Last time I saw her was on the web doing porno in Florida. Can't miss that squirting.
However, the two weeks right after Christmas I find to be better. They have overspent and don't have the money for jan rent, utilities etc. Panic sets in and types that normally wouldn't or haven't ever before now go UTR.
If you got the cash. Tis the season to be jolly.Okay. You have to share some Lessons Learned with the rest of us! How do you guys find these desperate UTR's? Do you approach them out of the blue? Do you bring up the subject? I can see this creating some awkward rejections!
Can someone tell me what does UTR stand for?
Thanks happy holla days.
The non-pro UTR types is where I almost always play. Rarely go with the pros. UTR types more expensive but less risk IMO. I'm a wus and scared of SWs and BP types.
Yep. Its the UTR time of the year. When the little darlings don't have the cash for presents. They damn near wear me out. Waitresses, lawyers (yep for real) , school teachers etc. My favorite was a female police officer. Damn good fuck and it amused me to be breaking the law with the cop. Too bad haven't seen her in a long while. Real squirter when excited. Embarrassed the heck out of her.
If I remember right she got mad and shot somebody off duty with her service revolver and got canned. Last time I saw her was on the web doing porno in Florida. Can't miss that squirting.
However, the two weeks right after Christmas I find to be better. They have overspent and don't have the money for jan rent, utilities etc. Panic sets in and types that normally wouldn't or haven't ever before now go UTR.
If you got the cash. Tis the season to be jolly.
Okay. You have to share some Lessons Learned with the rest of us! How do you guys find these desperate UTR's? Do you approach them out of the blue? Do you bring up the subject? I can see this creating some awkward rejections!Yeah, I'd like to ask the same question.
I've been with a lot of SWers, a few who were advertising online, and a few customers who I knew were hoes, but my only UTR experience was years ago, with a girl I was working with.
She was telling me her tales of woe and I could tell, working her way up to asking me to borrow some money.
In the end, she was on her knees in the back office, for either $40 or $60, I can't remember which.
The last thing she told me, before she got down to business was,"if you ever tell anyone I did this, I'll bite it off for you."
Also, long, long ago, I was friends with a girl who was a waitress at popular, low end 24 hour restaurant.
One night, she was working an overnight shift and a customer offered her X amount of money to let him fuck her and she agreed.
Early the next morning, she showed up at my house, crying hysterically because she regretted what she'd done.
I've no idea how exactly he went about propositioning her and so, as I said, I to would be interested in any tips on how the UTR type thing works.
Oh and a big thumbs up on the paying a female cop for it.
While I didn't pay for it, in my limited experience, female cops are great fucks.
They have to be strong and tough all day, every day and so in the bedroom, they like nothing better than to have someone else take control.
Word to the wise though, cops see some bad shit, they bring said shit home with them and if you are in the least bit empathetic, then you end up dealing with it as well.
Member #4178
11-21-11, 19:27
Can someone tell me what does UTR stand for?
Thanks happy holla days.UTR equals "Under The Radar"; generally a girl who doesn't advertise and is very quiet about providing (or isn't a provider at all) , and thereby doesn't attract a lot of attention. Typically only provides to a couple guys (or 1) , but may see a fair number of guys if word of mouth gets her info out among a select group.
Dr Holiday
11-21-11, 19:57
Can someone tell me what does UTR stand for?
Thanks happy holla days.A non-pro. Single moms short on rent, no money for kids Christmas, student no tuition for next semester waitresses, etc. Etc.
Knoxville is the best place ever for UTR. Don't know how the pros make any cash.
Tips? Hummm.
Well first rule of fight club. Is never talk about fight club. Never bring up chats like this. Never admit to being with a pro or doing it for cash. Your a virgin in the deal. Just like they are. Ha. Never done anything like this before. Facilitate the fantasy denial.
Second, they aren't doing it for money. Total denial. So you are just HELPING them a bit. Don't ever link the help to any act. Help them maintain the denial. You both know both are lying. Let it be.
Third, not as quick an easy as just calling a BP girl etc. Takes a bit more time. Remember they aren't pros. More skittish. Usually takes more time to get to know you before they relax. Remember they have never done this for money and aren't now either (even while your dick is their mouth).
Fourth, most time if you been hanging in the bar etc. They are comfortable. They will make the approach. As mentioned below, the direct approach will most times get awkward rejection (they aren't doing this for money remember). So many time if they are comfortable, they will start about how hard it is to get money for kids for Christmas etc. They'll say tonight has been so slow. Not making anything. You say something like, maybe I could help. Remember your "helping" not doing them for $$$. They don't do that. LOL.
Fifth, make a joke of it. Many times with the local strippers you make a direct approach in a club. Get immediate rejection for take out. Even from the one that does it the most. They ask you for a dance. Say something in a joking voice " aww I'm more a a private party guy". Amazing how fast take out gets offered.
Look right at the waitress you been flirting with, hear the sob story of evil boy friend and need rent. Jokingly say. You need rich sugardaddy. Amazing who will respond.
One approached me last week. I thought SHE was joking when she said. Well its Christmas season time to put out for the family. Took me a second. She was serious. Damn nice fun this morning before work. The day goes so much better when start off like that.
Sixth, UTR types are usually way more expensive than I see listed here. You try to barter go for cheap. Most times you will be kicked aside. They will get offended on the spot. Remember you are helping them. Not renting some pussy. Usually what the UTR types need costs more, rent, power / phone bill, tuition etc. Not always true. My friend got the neighbor for a $15 prescription she couldn't pay for. I go for the very high end, very expensive, young and drop dead gorgeous. But that's just me. I'm a wus. Scared of the low end stuff.
Sixth, its a loan. Offer to loan it to them. You know help facilitate the denial. You know and she knows you'll never see the money again. Just having fun together. The "loan" not related at all.
One of my favorites, a hot girl who was a personal trainer called me at work, said,"You know I dreamed I fucked a doctor last night. I immediately said." In that case see you at my place in 30min". Damn near screwed me to death for the phone bill. Violent orgasms out of her. Serious fun rough sex. Crazy as loon. But damn I miss her. 10/10 on looks and 15/10 on performance. LOL.
Second best. Three "dancers" were sitting a talking about the last time they had sex. I was buying them drinks I said, ' well its been six months for me (big lie, LOL). One of them actually believed me and felt sorry for me and came over for lunch the next day. Mercy fuck. LOL. Took $300 while actually saying,"You know its not about the money". I say," I know honey."Of course not " (RIGHT, hah). Tall gorgeous 21 yo blond.
Started the morning with the waitress (21 gorgeous) , lunch with the UT grad student followed by afternoon delight. Just. Got a call from a bartender. She directly said I need a sugardaddy. Heading up north knox. She's desert after she gets off shift.
Knoxville is the very best UTR spot ever. Just got to play the game right. Its an expensive game but whewww.the Quality is amazing. Between now and end of January. Not joking. They will wear me out.
Once you establish a UTR relationship,
You find it hard to go back to a regular
Provider. There is something so special.
About having your own private hooker.
You feel an amazing sense of privilege,
And she actually feels flattered that you are.
Willing to spend a tremendous amount of cash.
For an "erotic experience" (never characterize.
It as a 'fuck')
With her. It's also important to treat her.
With a great deal more respect so she
Actually enjoys the experience of doing something.
That out of character for her. She will feel she is.
Being 'risqué, not 'trashy. ' She may even bragg to.
Girlfriends about being a $500 an hour working girl 4-6
Nights a year. But.
Just for one guy. UTRs are worth the investment.
Of time and money because you don't get that.
Sloppy Seconds feeling you might get with regular providers.
She is a mistress that won't call your wife and doesn't.
Want to see you unless you have the standard fee,
So no danger of her getting too attached. And you don't.
Feel like a sucker for treating like a princess. Why?
Because she is only fucking you. Hopefully! Which beings.
Me to my next point. Make sure you do your research on her!
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If you work with the public is the best way. I was working at a automotive shop in Alcoa some years ago and here came a Toyota camry in with flat tire lady got out and asked me if I could air it up I said sure. I was putin air in the tire she came over to the car and put one leg up on bump she had a skirt on an no undies she then asked me what was wrong I said there is a screw in the tire then she asked how much to fix that I almost did it for free but I told her 10. 00 flat repair then she went in to this big story on how she was broke, bad bf ect. As I told her to hold on I had to use the restroom I just opened the door and her she was right behind me almost pushing me in to the bathroom she unzipped my pants held while I was peeing then got a towel cleaned me up then asked if I could help her with her tire I said yes then she went down it was great she gave me her # then she was on her way so about week later I called her up and went to her apartme nt she ask for like. 4 FS so really that's how I got started in the hobby I seen her about 3 times a week for a year or so till she started going to church then she was like I can't be doing this anymore I was fine with it at that time I was 23 or so and she was in her forties.
First off, I want to thank Doc H. For all of his advice.
My only complaint would be you didn't quite explain how you find these girls.
That said, you also unintentionally hit on why I tend to stick to pros.
I know this is one of those to each his own things, but for me, I'the have a hard time doing what you're talking about.
I'the end up feeling sorry for them, feeling like I was taking advantage of them, playing with their emotions, etc.
No, I'm not captain save a ho, but I've been hurt and I've been used and I wouldn't ever want to do that to someone else.
Also, one of my closest friends is a girl who has gotten herself into a very bad relationship with this piece of shit drunk and that's exactly how it started was he was spending a bit of money on her.
I'm willing to bet that if you brought in an accountant to look over the books so to speak, she's the one supporting him, but he's playing the age old game of give her a bit of money here and there and so she thinks he's 'helping' her.
If I'm going to 'help' a girl, then I want something real.
It doesn't necessarily have to be forever, in fact, I'm not looking for forever, but what you guys are talking about sounds more like traditional dating and well, if I'm going to do that, then I want someone who's in it for more than just what I can do for her.
The pros are nice and simple. I know exactly what they want and they know exactly what I want.
One small example, I picked up a SWer on N. Central, down around where the restaurant supply place is.
I drove on up to Broadway, took a left at the light and by the time we got to around where Fulton high is, she had her shorts unbuttoned and I had two fingers in her.
In other words, nice and simple and to the point.
I'll admit you aren't going to find any beauty queens walking the stroll, but at the same time, a lot of them have very good skills and if you lay back and close your eyes, a mouth is a mouth.
CMoney, I've worked with the public most of my life and I've never had anything like that happen.
I've known some flat out hoes through work, a couple of strippers, etc. But never a true UTR girl.
Closest I can think of was one who was giving me this bullshit story about her baby was in the hospital and she needed some money to buy the baby some medicine.
I did seriously think about seeing just how bad she wanted the money for her next fix, BUT I was in a relationship at the time and when it comes to work, I really do try to avoid shitting where I sleep.
Kmeistry, if you honestly believe that you know a girl who is spreading for money, isn't attached to you, isn't going to call up your wife, but she's spreading for you and just you, PLEASE PM me your phone, I have some bridges I'the like to sell.
I'm currently remodeling the one between Henley and Chapman, but just as soon as I'm done, it's all yours. .
Back to Doc.
I've seen you mention several times that you're too much of a 'wus' to try the street action, but you really should give it a try sometime.
As I said, if you're looking for a gorgeous girl, you aren't going to find her on the street, but you can find some with absolutely amazing skills.
Also, for me at least, the whole thing is just really exciting. The thrill of the hunt, the anticipation, the danger of getting caught, etc.
Don't just blindly go out though. Read through some of the posts on the SWer board and you'll get a lot of good tips.
A Cliff notes version, don't ever pick up a girl without first circling the block to look for both Uncle Leo and any sketchy looking guys hanging around.
Don't EVER negotiate on the street. This isn't a movie. In the real world, a legit SWer will hop in as soon as you pull up, you're just a nice guy offering her a ride, that's your story and stick to it.
I seriously doubt an undercover would get in the car with you and I can guarantee she wouldn't make sexual contact with you.
That's the usual Leo check is a mutual crotch feel up.
From there, get the hell out of the area, as quickly as possible, while obeying ALL traffic laws.
Finally, never, ever let her tell you where to go.
In the same vein, most of them will want to pick where you drop them off at, but be leery of that as well. Especially if she's been on the phone talking about where you're going to drop her off.
A lot of them also want to go to places you probably don't want to be going to. In my case, I've sometimes been able to negotiate a lower rate in exchange for a ride to say Walter P, in the middle of the night, but YMMV.
Thank you for the info, helped me alot.
UTR equals "Under The Radar"; generally a girl who doesn't advertise and is very quiet about providing (or isn't a provider at all) , and thereby doesn't attract a lot of attention. Typically only provides to a couple guys (or 1) , but may see a fair number of guys if word of mouth gets her info out among a select group.
Dr Holiday
11-22-11, 10:46
Just like doing a real virgin, girl on her first time UTR likely to shed a bunch of tears. So have to be real supportive when she cries afterwards if you want to see her again.
Lots of "You didn't do anything wrong". We are just two friends helping each other out". Stuff like that.
One girl burst into tears and said "She couldn't believe she had done this". Holding her, I told it its OK. Turns out giving it up JUST for the rent helped the guilt trip. Once I gave her the KUB then giving it up wasn't such a big deal.
Then the tears stopped and we did it again. LOL.
Of course, a number of them have the sob story and shedding tears down to an art form. They might be UTR but are really pros at it.
So like the others have said, do your research. Keep your emotions out of it. Careful. They will empty your bank account playing on your sympathy.
Never forget its all pretend, both for you and her.
First off, I want to thank Doc H. For all of his advice.
My only complaint would be you didn't quite explain how you find these girls.
That said, you also unintentionally hit on why I tend to stick to pros.
I know this is one of those to each his own things, but for me, I'the have a hard time doing what you're talking about.
I'the end up feeling sorry for them, feeling like I was taking advantage of them, playing with their emotions, etc.
No, I'm not captain save a ho, but I've been hurt and I've been used and I wouldn't ever want to do that to someone else.
Also, one of my closest friends is a girl who has gotten herself into a very bad relationship with this piece of shit drunk and that's exactly how it started was he was spending a bit of money on her.
I'm willing to bet that if you brought in an accountant to look over the books so to speak, she's the one supporting him, but he's playing the age old game of give her a bit of money here and there and so she thinks he's 'helping' her.
If I'm going to 'help' a girl, then I want something real.
It doesn't necessarily have to be forever, in fact, I'm not looking for forever, but what you guys are talking about sounds more like traditional dating and well, if I'm going to do that, then I want someone who's in it for more than just what I can do for her.
The pros are nice and simple. I know exactly what they want and they know exactly what I want.
One small example, I picked up a SWer on N. Central, down around where the restaurant supply place is.
I drove on up to Broadway, took a left at the light and by the time we got to around where Fulton high is, she had her shorts unbuttoned and I had two fingers in her.
In other words, nice and simple and to the point.
I'll admit you aren't going to find any beauty queens walking the stroll, but at the same time, a lot of them have very good skills and if you lay back and close your eyes, a mouth is a mouth.
CMoney, I've worked with the public most of my life and I've never had anything like that happen.
I've known some flat out hoes through work, a couple of strippers, etc. But never a true UTR girl.
Closest I can think of was one who was giving me this bullshit story about her baby was in the hospital and she needed some money to buy the baby some medicine.
I did seriously think about seeing just how bad she wanted the money for her next fix, BUT I was in a relationship at the time and when it comes to work, I really do try to avoid shitting where I sleep.
Kmeistry, if you honestly believe that you know a girl who is spreading for money, isn't attached to you, isn't going to call up your wife, but she's spreading for you and just you, PLEASE PM me your phone, I have some bridges I'the like to sell.
I'm currently remodeling the one between Henley and Chapman, but just as soon as I'm done, it's all yours. .
Back to Doc.
I've seen you mention several times that you're too much of a 'wus' to try the street action, but you really should give it a try sometime.
As I said, if you're looking for a gorgeous girl, you aren't going to find her on the street, but you can find some with absolutely amazing skills.
Also, for me at least, the whole thing is just really exciting. The thrill of the hunt, the anticipation, the danger of getting caught, etc.
Don't just blindly go out though. Read through some of the posts on the SWer board and you'll get a lot of good tips.
A Cliff notes version, don't ever pick up a girl without first circling the block to look for both Uncle Leo and any sketchy looking guys hanging around.
Don't EVER negotiate on the street. This isn't a movie. In the real world, a legit SWer will hop in as soon as you pull up, you're just a nice guy offering her a ride, that's your story and stick to it.
I seriously doubt an undercover would get in the car with you and I can guarantee she wouldn't make sexual contact with you.
That's the usual Leo check is a mutual crotch feel up.
From there, get the hell out of the area, as quickly as possible, while obeying ALL traffic laws.
Finally, never, ever let her tell you where to go.
In the same vein, most of them will want to pick where you drop them off at, but be leery of that as well. Especially if she's been on the phone talking about where you're going to drop her off.
A lot of them also want to go to places you probably don't want to be going to. In my case, I've sometimes been able to negotiate a lower rate in exchange for a ride to say Walter P, in the middle of the night, but YMMV.Well I don't know what kinda work you do but when I was a mechanic ladies would do about anything to get a lower bill or even free derive. But as we all know it isn't free either way, I also worked at az and I would have women flirting to try to get discount there also I knew I had them when they would ask you to come out and take first hand look. This one girl even sent her friend up to see me if they think they are getting it fixed for free they are very happy to open up shop.
Just like doing a real virgin, girl on her first time UTR likely to shed a bunch of tears. So have to be real supportive when she cries afterwards if you want to see her again.
Lots of "You didn't do anything wrong". We are just two friends helping each other out". Stuff like that.
One girl burst into tears and said "She couldn't believe she had done this". Holding her, I told it its OK. Turns out giving it up JUST for the rent helped the guilt trip. Once I gave her the KUB then giving it up wasn't such a big deal.
Then the tears stopped and we did it again. LOL.
Of course, a number of them have the sob story and shedding tears down to an art form. They might be UTR but are really pros at it.
So like the others have said, do your research. Keep your emotions out of it. Careful. They will empty your bank account playing on your sympathy.
Never forget its all pretend, both for you and her.Yeah, I knew a girl who I genuinely cared for and was trying to help and she wasn't even a ho, but she could conduct master classes in lies, manipulation, crying on cue and just general bullshit.
As a result, I'm pretty good at picking up on bullshit but at the same time, it's why I personally prefer pros.
I picked up one SWer who was so well trained that I went to the bathroom to take a piss and when I came out, she was already naked and lying on the bed.
When we were done, we got dressed, I paid her, she gave me her phone # and then I dropped her off at her "friend's" house.
Her friend the dope man.
I've had drama and water works from a few SWers, but it's certainly not the norm.
Dr Holiday
11-23-11, 05:49
I see from the post below."you didn't explain exactly where you find them".
It will sound trite. But not meaning to be. You find them everywhere. From the waitress at the watering hole noticing you got cash for drinks, from the stripper noticing you got cash for dances, from a lawyer noticing you got cash in doing work for you, the dental assistant that notices the fancy car out front, etc. Etc. Find the watering holes where the doctors, lawyers, rich male professionals hang. Even if you aren't. They figure you have dead presidents to use. You'll do fine.
Knoxville (due to bad economics and no jobs I guess) is the best place I have ever seen.
As always what the attractant is. It is dead presidents. As I said before, they aren't cheap as the pros. They got bigger cash concerns usually. No tuition for next semester, no Christmas for kid, no rent for this month etc. Etc.
Years ago sitting in bar well known for the fun on the menu beside food and drinks. It was a slow night. Too much sausage in there if you know what I mean. Worst of all, none of the servers on duty were ones on the menu.
I'm old and fat. I ain't any woman's dream (except for the $$). Sitting with me is a friend young army ranger. Pure muscle, jump out of helicopter kill people type stud. Four or five hot girls come in a group. Ignore the young good looking ranger completely.
Seems they have had a fight with their manager at work and quit in a group. Then had a collective anxiety attack over where food, rent and money for the kids would come from. They made a collective decision to head for this watering hole where ones with $$ hang out.
Ticked my ranger friend off when I went off with all of them. Personal best performance by an old guy.
Next day in the same bar. Ranger says,"Tell me you didn't do all of them". I laughed and said,"If I said that, it would be a lie".
"How do I do it" he asked. I said,"pretend to be rich". And I laughed. Wasn't exactly joking. Its all about dead presidents and having them to use.
The fancy car sitting out front of dentist, lawyer, bar, whatever. They notice. Many times come in ask the door guy who's car that it. Make a direct line for me.
They watch who's tipping the waitress heavily. Buying drinks in the bar. They have the radar full on for where dead presidents might be.
Cause that's why the are going UTR. Lack of dead presidents.
Dr Holiday
11-23-11, 07:34
One of the best places is in the daytime at a bar attached to a mall. In there after shopping, hubby is at work. Short of cash for more shopping. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Places were high net worth types hang out. Docs, lawyers, business types. District court judges.
UTR types are like strippers. Can smell money from a distance.
Don't know of chuming is leagl here while fishing. Was out west. Hungrey for breakfast would throw in a handful of corn around the boat. Followed by the hook covered in corn. If a flyline. Handful of marshmellows that float. Lay the line with a marshemellow on the hook.
Same here. Lay a few large tips on the server your interested in. Few dances with the stipper giving her more than the regular lap dance few.
Recenlty bought a cheap diamond neckase. Gave it to one I wanted. Few days later she was over after shift asking if I would help with a few shoping $$ for this Friday.
Chumming attracts the UTR fish. Cause its all about dead presidents
One of the best places is in the daytime at a bar attached to a mall. In there after shopping, hubby is at work. Short of cash for more shopping. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Places were high net worth types hang out. Docs, lawyers, business types. District court judges.
UTR types are like strippers. Can smell money from a distance.
Don't know of chuming is leagl here while fishing. Was out west. Hungrey for breakfast would throw in a handful of corn around the boat. Followed by the hook covered in corn. If a flyline. Handful of marshmellows that float. Lay the line with a marshemellow on the hook.
Same here. Lay a few large tips on the server your interested in. Few dances with the stipper giving her more than the regular lap dance few.
Recenlty bought a cheap diamond neckase. Gave it to one I wanted. Few days later she was over after shift asking if I would help with a few shoping $$ for this Friday.
Chumming attracts the UTR fish. Cause its all about dead presidentsThanks for the tips but it sounds like you have a lot more dead presidents to throw around than I do.
Even if I had the cash, it's just not worth it to me.
I'm content with a SWer or backpage girl and you can get them for the price of a cheap bottle of scotch.
SWer's are generally $30 for head and $60 for FS, give or take a few bucks.
As I said in another post, most of them aren't going to win any beauty contest, but a lot of them have amazing skills and if you lay back and close your eyes, a warm, wet mouth is a warm, wet mouth.
Dr Holiday
11-25-11, 11:13
Thanks for the tips but it sounds like you have a lot more dead presidents to throw around than I do.
Even if I had the cash, it's just not worth it to me.
I'm content with a SWer or backpage girl and you can get them for the price of a cheap bottle of scotch.
SWer's are generally $30 for head and $60 for FS, give or take a few bucks.
As I said in another post, most of them aren't going to win any beauty contest, but a lot of them have amazing skills and if you lay back and close your eyes, a warm, wet mouth is a warm, wet mouth.I would never criticize what anyoone else chooses. They might be smarter than me about the whole deal.
Its just my preference. Go for the 10/10 looks and young. Got something about breaking in utr virgins to the business too.
But I understand your preference and like I say might be a much smarter route.
I would never criticize what anyoone else chooses. They might be smarter than me about the whole deal.
Its just my preference. Go for the 10/10 looks and young. Got something about breaking in utr virgins to the business too.
But I understand your preference and like I say might be a much smarter route.Whether or not it's smarter depends entirely on how much cash you have and what you're looking for.
If you're looking for a 10/10 in looks, you aren't going to find that on the street.
A 10 on the SWer scale, is more like a 5 on the overall scale.
If you're looking for one new to the business, you aren't likely to find that on the street either and even if you do, they aren't going to be new for long.
Within a month or two of hitting the stroll for the first time, the average SWer will have been with dozens of guys and probably beaten and raped as well.
I've picked up a couple that probably were part timers, but they weren't beauties, weren't the virgin mary and part timers don't tend to stay part time for long. Especially not if they've reached the point of selling their ass on the street.
If you're looking for the illusion of a GFE, you also aren't going to find that on the street either.
I've kissed a couple of SWers, but that's not the norm and one of them was one I have a bit of a relationship with beyond just being a date.
In short, if you want 10/10 on looks, young and the GFE, your way is better, assuming you have the money.
However, if all you want is to rent a cheap hole for a few minutes, then my way is better.
I won't say they're all great, some it's like they're doing you a favor, but there are some out on the stroll that have utterly amazing skills.
An analogy, I like to eat at Calhoun's. I like to eat at Chesapeake's, I like to eat at Bonefish Grill, BUT I also like to eat at Krystal's and Wendy's.
It's just a matter of how much I want to spend and what I'm in the mood for.
That same attitude applies to other things as well.
Dr Holiday
11-27-11, 09:10
Whether or not it's smarter depends entirely on how much cash you have and what you're looking for.
If you're looking for a 10/10 in looks, you aren't going to find that on the street.
A 10 on the SWer scale, is more like a 5 on the overall scale.
If you're looking for one new to the business, you aren't likely to find that on the street either and even if you do, they aren't going to be new for long.
Within a month or two of hitting the stroll for the first time, the average SWer will have been with dozens of guys and probably beaten and raped as well.
I've picked up a couple that probably were part timers, but they weren't beauties, weren't the virgin mary and part timers don't tend to stay part time for long. Especially not if they've reached the point of selling their ass on the street.
If you're looking for the illusion of a GFE, you also aren't going to find that on the street either.
I've kissed a couple of SWers, but that's not the norm and one of them was one I have a bit of a relationship with beyond just being a date.
In short, if you want 10/10 on looks, young and the GFE, your way is better, assuming you have the money.
However, if all you want is to rent a cheap hole for a few minutes, then my way is better.
I won't say they're all great, some it's like they're doing you a favor, but there are some out on the stroll that have utterly amazing skills.
An analogy, I like to eat at Calhoun's. I like to eat at Chesapeake's, I like to eat at Bonefish Grill, BUT I also like to eat at Krystal's and Wendy's.
It's just a matter of how much I want to spend and what I'm in the mood for.
That same attitude applies to other things as well.Just my preference is that if I'm paying. I want the hottest youngest thing around. Something that without the $$$ I wouldn't nave a chance in hell of nailing. .
I also can't see going for the BBW. Something I can get for free in any watering hole in town. Not for worrying about conserving ben franklins. Just hate paying for what can be had easily for free.
But thats just me. Everybody gets to choose what they like and want. Aint america wonderful.
Several years ago after leaving the old City I decidided to take a drive up N. Central saw a very attractive blonde using the phone and she flagged me down, Circled the block saw no signs of LEO came back to offer a ride. She walked up to my open window and first question was ru looking for a date my answer should have been NO but with my little head doing the thinking I replied yes, She then turned her cap around backwards and unmarked LEO came out of the woodwork all unmarked cars and a van. My lesson was learned not to ever again pick up a girl that does not jump right in the car. Iwas cited for solicitation and let go but had to on Monday show up for arraignment and later a court date, In court I found myself with another friend [embarasssing as hell] But the judge somewhat sympathetic to all of us guys offered another word of advice and that was if a SW looks good enough to take home you better stay away.
Several years ago after leaving the old City I decidided to take a drive up N. Central saw a very attractive blonde using the phone and she flagged me down, Circled the block saw no signs of LEO came back to offer a ride. She walked up to my open window and first question was ru looking for a date my answer should have been NO but with my little head doing the thinking I replied yes, She then turned her cap around backwards and unmarked LEO came out of the woodwork all unmarked cars and a van. My lesson was learned not to ever again pick up a girl that does not jump right in the car. Iwas cited for solicitation and let go but had to on Monday show up for arraignment and later a court date, In court I found myself with another friend [embarasssing as hell] But the judge somewhat sympathetic to all of us guys offered another word of advice and that was if a SW looks good enough to take home you better stay away.Everyone who is in to this hobby should read the 22 Rules For Street Mongering many many times. They are on the forum page on the left side. Be smart, be safe.
Just my preference is that if I'm paying. I want the hottest youngest thing around. Something that without the $$$ I wouldn't nave a chance in hell of nailing. .
I also can't see going for the BBW. Something I can get for free in any watering hole in town. Not for worrying about conserving ben franklins. Just hate paying for what can be had easily for free.
But thats just me. Everybody gets to choose what they like and want. Aint america wonderful.No, unless I'm going to spend some cash, I'm not likely to be nailing some hot young thang either but in my personal life, I. E. Not paying for it, I tend to go for girls who are my age (mid 30s) and more the girl next door type.
I actually agree with you on the BBW thing.
I don't mind a little extra cushion, but morbidly obese is one of the few total turn offs for me. Poor hygiene and so strung out they don't know their own name would be the others.
Several years ago after leaving the old City I decidided to take a drive up N. Central saw a very attractive blonde using the phone and she flagged me down, Circled the block saw no signs of LEO came back to offer a ride. She walked up to my open window and first question was ru looking for a date my answer should have been NO but with my little head doing the thinking I replied yes, She then turned her cap around backwards and unmarked LEO came out of the woodwork all unmarked cars and a van. My lesson was learned not to ever again pick up a girl that does not jump right in the car. Iwas cited for solicitation and let go but had to on Monday show up for arraignment and later a court date, In court I found myself with another friend [embarasssing as hell] But the judge somewhat sympathetic to all of us guys offered another word of advice and that was if a SW looks good enough to take home you better stay away.Yep, I've said this in multiple posts already, but never, ever, ever negotiate with a girl on the street or even hint at anything sexual.
A legit SWer WILL NOT stand there and talk, she'll hop in as soon as you pull up.
From there, you're just a nice guy offering her a ride and you shouldn't say anything beyond that.
"Do you need a ride?"
"Hop in."
"You look cold, where are you headed to?"
That kind of shit.
The legit SWer will hop right in, knowing perfectly well that you are playing the game AND feeling confident that you aren't Leo.
They can and occasionally do cite SWers for "soliciting a ride," but to the best of my knowledge, there is no law against offering someone a ride.
Also, it's helpful to have a plausible reason for being in the neighborhood and I'd also suggest getting her attention and then pulling into a parking lot, as opposed to picking her up right on the street.
Once you get her attention, a legit SWer will both know what you are doing and be happy to walk to you.
If she's working for Leo, even if she does come to you, you have a plausible reason for being in the neighborhood and you just pulled into this parking lot to say, read a text message on your phone.
Again, they may not believe you, but they also can't prove otherwise.
I agree with skyboy on reading the 22 rules, but I also think you need to have your bacon sniffer checked.
Even undercover is generally easy as hell to spot.
One example I once saw, you wouldn't expect to find bacon in a Pontiac Grand Am, but add to that, two clean cut white guys with buzz cuts and the one in the passenger seat had a radio in his hand.
If you do have a run in with Leo, you were just being a nice guy and offering her a ride, that's your story and stick to it.
They won't believe you, but they also don't have any grounds to arrest you.
IF they do take you into custody, then that's when you shut the fuck up and ask for an attorney.
Read back through some of the recent posts here and you'll find quite a few tips from me, Dr Holiday and others regarding how to watch your back out there.
GolferNick
11-28-11, 18:25
I had to take a quick nap this afternoon and dreamed I was introduced to a UTR type that is very new to the hobby and very eager to meet people here in Knoxville, her name is trish and she said to give her number out 865-235-8681, I don't like to tell all about my dreams, but it was well worth the time and very reasonable priced, she is in the maryville area, but said she would gladly drive to knoxville to nap! Hope you enjoy and treat her well guys hoepfully she will stay awhile!
Member #4200
11-28-11, 22:16
Just curious, and Midget escorts ever come thru? Ever since I seen the one on Lovell Road. That had a sign that read "will do small jobs" I can't quit laughing. The only place I have seen one is in Vegas!
While some of the members (or member) on this thread think (this scruffy outpost is not a real city) this is where we live and this is where we monger. We owe it to each other to keep the donation for these women as low as we can. Be it a BP girl or a SW or a UTR girl, don, t be a tool for these providers to increase donations. No matter how many times they tell you how charming you are or how many times they tell you how witty they think you are, they only like the way you put the donation on the table,of course this is JMO and am sure some of the other members will agree and am sure some who receive discounts for return visits will not.
Member #6355
11-29-11, 08:00
While some of the members (or member) on this thread think (this scruffy outpost is not a real city) this is where we live and this is where we monger. We owe it to each other to keep the donation for these women as low as we can. Be it a BP girl or a SW or a UTR girl, don, t be a tool for these providers to increase donations. No matter how many times they tell you how charming you are or how many times they tell you how witty they think you are, they only like the way you put the donation on the table,of course this is JMO and am sure some of the other members will agree and some who receive discounts for return visits will not.Yeah, but I won't be living around here much longer. For unrelated reasons, I'm moving away from ScruffyLand to a real city, and the ladies there are expensive, so I'm appreciating the relative bargains here while I can. What I'm saying is: thanks to the permanently depressed economy of southern Appalachia, you guys have got something amazingly good here, in a place that doesn't offer much else except the worship of college football.
So don't quibble over a few dream bucks.
Skboy, I respect your contributions to this forum but that was simply uncalled for in my humble opinion. I read FZ's post to merely suggest that the provider in question is well worth the cost of admission, whether or not she decides to raise her rates by another $20. 00. I happen to agree. I don't think that's being a tool for the provider.
I've been a member of this forum for a little over a year and I've learned a lot from the exchanges that take place here. One thing that I've learned over the past couple of months is that there probably aren't any two of us mongers who come to this hobby with the exact same goals and objectives. Some are looking for a piece of tail for the absolutely cheapest price. Others, including myself, really get a lot of enjoyment out of seeing the same girls over and over and developing something of a "dreamworld relationship." Some have no desire to even know anything about the girl who's hole their plugging and probably even think its stupid for some of us to "fool ourselves" into thinking that we know anything about these girls. Others probably think its stupid to spend even $10. 00, if you're simply looking for a warm wet hole when your hand and a jar of vasoline would serve the exact same purpose. The point is- we don't have to agree with one another, but we damn well ought to at least try to show a little respect to one another and think long and hard before sitting down at the keyboard and taking personal shots at one another.
Again, I respect and appreciate your contributions. Sweet dreams to all.
While some of the members (or member) on this thread think (this scruffy outpost is not a real city) this is where we live and this is where we monger. We owe it to each other to keep the donation for these women as low as we can. Be it a BP girl or a SW or a UTR girl, don, t be a tool for these providers to increase donations. No matter how many times they tell you how charming you are or how many times they tell you how witty they think you are, they only like the way you put the donation on the table,of course this is JMO and am sure some of the other members will agree and am sure some who receive discounts for return visits will not.
Skboy, I respect your contributions to this forum but that was simply uncalled for in my humble opinion. I read FZ's post to merely suggest that the provider in question is well worth the cost of admission, whether or not she decides to raise her rates by another $20. 00. I happen to agree. I don't think that's being a tool for the provider.
I've been a member of this forum for a little over a year and I've learned a lot from the exchanges that take place here. One thing that I've learned over the past couple of months is that there probably aren't any two of us mongers who come to this hobby with the exact same goals and objectives. Some are looking for a piece of tail for the absolutely cheapest price. Others, including myself, really get a lot of enjoyment out of seeing the same girls over and over and developing something of a "dreamworld relationship." Some have no desire to even know anything about the girl who's hole their plugging and probably even think its stupid for some of us to "fool ourselves" into thinking that we know anything about these girls. Others probably think its stupid to spend even $10. 00, if you're simply looking for a warm wet hole when your hand and a jar of vasoline would serve the exact same purpose. The point is- we don't have to agree with one another, but we damn well ought to at least try to show a little respect to one another and think long and hard before sitting down at the keyboard and taking personal shots at one another.
Again, I respect and appreciate your contributions. Sweet dreams to all.The last time I checked the site was started by a monger, for mongers, to help mongers (that would include giving the lowest donation posable) the provider in question donation started at a see note (at least thats what I gave) last BP add was 180 + tip, IMO thats alittle more than a few dream bucks, But thats ok how boring would this thread be if everyone thought the same way. BTW good luck to Fred in his new diggs. Even if Fred thinks this is a scruffy little outpost alo tof people care about this place and he should repect that. But then again that JMO.
Member #4178
11-29-11, 11:16
I had to take a quick nap this afternoon and dreamed I was introduced to a UTR type that is very new to the hobby and very eager to meet people here in Knoxville, her name is trish and she said to give her number out 865-235-8681, I don't like to tell all about my dreams, but it was well worth the time and very reasonable priced, she is in the maryville area, but said she would gladly drive to knoxville to nap! Hope you enjoy and treat her well guys hoepfully she will stay awhile!Just a little more info would be helpful, though. Like: is Maryville an incall location, or does she do outcalls only. General looks, I. E. Is she a BBW or a spinner? Cute? 20 or 40? Clean? Approximate donation? (I. E. Is reasonable $.20 or $.80 for and hour or half hour? I mean, if I prefer spinners, and I show up and she's a BBW, I'm not going to be too happy, and it's going to be a little tough on her when guys start calling, then reject because she's not what they're looking for. You've dangled a jewel out there, but right now we can't tell if it's a diamond or a piece of dirty quartz just pulled from the dirt!
Skboy, I respect your contributions to this forum but that was simply uncalled for in my humble opinion. I read FZ's post to merely suggest that the provider in question is well worth the cost of admission, whether or not she decides to raise her rates by another $20. 00. I happen to agree. I don't think that's being a tool for the provider.
I've been a member of this forum for a little over a year and I've learned a lot from the exchanges that take place here. One thing that I've learned over the past couple of months is that there probably aren't any two of us mongers who come to this hobby with the exact same goals and objectives. Some are looking for a piece of tail for the absolutely cheapest price. Others, including myself, really get a lot of enjoyment out of seeing the same girls over and over and developing something of a "dreamworld relationship." Some have no desire to even know anything about the girl who's hole their plugging and probably even think its stupid for some of us to "fool ourselves" into thinking that we know anything about these girls. Others probably think its stupid to spend even $10. 00, if you're simply looking for a warm wet hole when your hand and a jar of vasoline would serve the exact same purpose. The point is- we don't have to agree with one another, but we damn well ought to at least try to show a little respect to one another and think long and hard before sitting down at the keyboard and taking personal shots at one another.
Again, I respect and appreciate your contributions. Sweet dreams to all.I guess I am in dangerous waters as a regular member, but I think you are both right and I think Adam Smith's invisible hand and the universal law of risk versus reward will settle this for all concerned.
I am similar to Pink Floyd in that I prefer (and am willing to pay for) the opportunity to develop a "dreamworld relationship" with a lady with whom I develop a rapport. In fact, (sacrilege alert) I wish my ATF charged $$$$ or $$$$$ so she could eliminate the more economically sensitive clients from her dossier as she has been assaulted twice in the last year. (I am aware that the larger donation may not stop someone who does not intend to pay and also that there are a lot of creeps out there who have plenty of money) For me this approach also seems less risky concerning LE / robbery / assault / extortion etc.
Similarly, I can appreciate the thrill of a physical release for a relatively small amount of $'s. I just do not have Skyboy's balls / skills and am a little too risk averse for the SW scene. (I am so jealous of his ability to get those pics) When I saw Amber and was completely blown away with the physical experience, I found myself shaking my head on the way home and smiling over the reasonable fee I paid. (I did tip but that was my choice) And while a modest increase in her donation request will not drive me away it will lessen the sense of value that truly thrilled me.
I guess for me I feel like I get something for those extra $'s. Maybe I am wrong but it is my money, my choice and possibly my delusion.
Also, I hate to hear FZ is leaving. Do not know him but I learned a lot from his posts over the last year and his eloquence is part of the reason I finally started posting.
Just a little more info would be helpful, though. Like: is Maryville an incall location, or does she do outcalls only. General looks, I. E. Is she a BBW or a spinner? Cute? 20 or 40? Clean? Approximate donation? (I. E. Is reasonable $.20 or $.80 for and hour or half hour? I mean, if I prefer spinners, and I show up and she's a BBW, I'm not going to be too happy, and it's going to be a little tough on her when guys start calling, then reject because she's not what they're looking for. You've dangled a jewel out there, but right now we can't tell if it's a diamond or a piece of dirty quartz just pulled from the dirt!Well I called trudging just to find out some more info she's not a bbw the pic I got was from a distance she looked pretty sexy she pretty straight forward about what she wants $.0 a hour and will do half hr also but you supply the place so it isn't that bad of a deal I guess up for everything except backdoor I guess you can't describe her if you haven't ever seen her that would be why you don't talk about dreams if you had none but either way I will post some pics later.
Some guys here, myself included, have asked how the UTR thing works, well here is a good example.
I casually know a girl who is about my age, I. E. Late 30s, tall, cute face and a smokin' body.
Well, I was perusing a list of Uncle Leo's current house guests and here is this chick I know, she's in for 48 hours on a 1st offense DUI.
She works at a local deli, which is how I know her in the first place.
Odds are pretty good she doesn't have the money to pay for an attorney, pay the fine and court costs, get her car out of impound, etc.
Also, it's quite possible she doesn't even really have anywhere to live given the address on her booking record is the deli she works at.
Now, while I'm not going to do this myself, it's an example of how the UTR type situations get going.
If I was willing to help her out, I'm willing to bet she'd "help" me out as well.
Saw Gia yesterday to have a little fun, and wow!
I was expecting this "Dark Queen of the underworld" appearance and personality, LOL. I was so wrong!
She has a sweet personality, smokin body, and the softest skin I have ever had the pleasure to feel.
Her pics on here and BP do NO justice, Its like you see the pics and think one thing and then see her in person and are like, wow, she is absolutely beautiful!
Excellent skills, won't kiss the guys but she kissed me. (Um, everywhere) Soft lips.
Will DEFF see her again!
Dr Holiday
12-02-11, 10:19
Never seen so many leo mobiles in one place marked and unmarked. All up and down alcoa highway from Maryville up till Knox. However, not just on the highway. Saw them back in motel parking lots, on back streets.
Seems they are on a crusade for enforcing statutary authority in that area.
Keep your eyes open. When you least expect it an unmarked unit will appear.
Dr Holiday
12-02-11, 10:38
Some guys here, myself included, have asked how the UTR thing works, well here is a good example.
I casually know a girl who is about my age, I. E. Late 30s, tall, cute face and a smokin' body.
Well, I was perusing a list of Uncle Leo's current house guests and here is this chick I know, she's in for 48 hours on a 1st offense DUI.
She works at a local deli, which is how I know her in the first place.
Odds are pretty good she doesn't have the money to pay for an attorney, pay the fine and court costs, get her car out of impound, etc.
Also, it's quite possible she doesn't even really have anywhere to live given the address on her booking record is the deli she works at.
Now, while I'm not going to do this myself, it's an example of how the UTR type situations get going.
If I was willing to help her out, I'm willing to bet she'd "help" me out as well.Just like your example. If you want to play in that game just got to let them know that you are available. They will approach you. Often ones that might not expect.
One last night surprised me. Got a real job, husband. Kids. Looked right at me and said,"well its Christmas. Guess its time to put out for the family".
Thought it was a joke. Nope. She made it clear wasn't. I got the first course of the meal last night, lunch and some toy shopping and afternoon delight today for the second course.
Utr price has a huge range. Like probable attorney fees in your example. However, a really hot bar young server. She's hot. Could be an actress or a model. Dallas Cowboy cheerleader type. Never been able to get near her due to bf (s) hanging on her. I've wanted to do her for a couple of years.
Came in bar last week off shift. A guy stuck to her as usual. However, he goes off to talk to some friends in the bar. She immediately looks at me and asked for some nose candy. This goody two shoes acting hottie surprised me with this request.
I say,"You know I stay far far away from that crap". She says,"but you would know who to talk to in here".
I gave her two andrew jacksons. Few minutes later she comes back takes me in the back of the place and does me in the back restroom. BF talking to his buddies doesn't even notice. LOL. Performance 10/10 just like her looks.
Bang for the buck. As close to free as a guy like me can get.
Every not and then Christmas comes early.
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Well I called trudging just to find out some more info she's not a bbw the pic I got was from a distance she looked pretty sexy she pretty straight forward about what she wants $.0 a hour and will do half hr also but you supply the place so it isn't that bad of a deal I guess up for everything except backdoor I guess you can't describe her if you haven't ever seen her that would be why you don't talk about dreams if you had none but either way I will post some pics later.
Just like your example. If you want to play in that game just got to let them know that you are available. They will approach you. Often ones that might not expect.Yeah, I don't really have the money to play at the moment, but if I did, I'd be getting in touch with her and I'm willing to bet some other guy will be tapping it soon.
A few years back, I paid about $500 in fines and court costs on a bullshit misdemeanor and that was with representing myself and not fighting the charge because, yeah, it was bullshit, but I was guilty.
A couple of years after that, I paid an attorney $2, 500 to get my then GF out of jail and he didn't even really have to do anything.
So yeah, while I don't know how much the total cost of a DUI charge would be, I'm willing to bet this chick would be open to the idea of having someone "help" her out about now.
Something else on this one, the last time I saw her, which was the beginning of this year, she was very obviously pregnant and the impression I got was the sperm donor wasn't in the picture, she's got at least one other kid that I know of, it's Christmastime, then add the DUI on top of that and as I said, I see some leg spreading in her near future.
Member #6355
12-02-11, 22:08
Saw Gia yesterday to have a little fun, and wow!
I was expecting this "Dark Queen of the underworld" appearance and personality, LOL. I was so wrong!
She has a sweet personality, smokin body, and the softest skin I have ever had the pleasure to feel.
Her pics on here and BP do NO justice, Its like you see the pics and think one thing and then see her in person and are like, wow, she is absolutely beautiful!
Excellent skills, won't kiss the guys but she kissed me. (Um, everywhere) Soft lips.
Will DEFF see her again!
Having been in the (very) close vicinity of this magnificent encounter, I have to agree with Anna's assessment. Gia is a diamond in the rough, which only adds to her charm. I didn't really think that Gia was of the bi persuasion, but of course, in the presence of Anna, any woman would become bi. I am still in awe of these two exotic creatures. I recall giggles, goosebumps, costumery, and delectable treats.
okay, i know i'm treading on thin ice in even asking this question, but it's something i'm curious about and just to be clear, i am not looking to hook up with anyone ****.
this post is not some type of back handed way to get information about anyone ****, it is a legitimate question.
the youngest provider i've ever been with was probably mid-20s, but what i'm curious about is i've had more than one provider tell me they've been working since they were young teens.
one told me she started escorting at 15 and another told me she'the been working the street since she was 14.
i've heard enough stories that i'm willing to believe that does happen, but i've never personally seen it.
the only exception would be a couple of years ago, i saw a girl on north central who one, looked like she was working and two, looked very young.
yes, while i know not to try to play captain save a ho, i was at least going to take her somewhere and get her something to eat, but by the time i got back around, she was gone.
i'm just curious as to how common the **** really is and again, i'm honestly just curious.
given the choice between a 16 year old who doesn't have a clue and a 40 year old who's sucked more dick than she can remember, i'll take the 40 year old every time.
Dr Holiday
12-03-11, 11:13
okay, i know i'm treading on thin ice in even asking this question, but it's something i'm curious about and just to be clear, i am not looking to hook up with anyone ****.
this post is not some type of back handed way to get information about anyone ****, it is a legitimate question.
the youngest provider i've ever been with was probably mid-20s, but what i'm curious about is i've had more than one provider tell me they've been working since they were young teens.
one told me she started escorting at 15 and another told me she'the been working the street since she was 14.
i've heard enough stories that i'm willing to believe that does happen, but i've never personally seen it.
the only exception would be a couple of years ago, i saw a girl on north central who one, looked like she was working and two, looked very young.
yes, while i know not to try to play captain save a ho, i was at least going to take her somewhere and get her something to eat, but by the time i got back around, she was gone.
i'm just curious as to how common the **** really is and again, i'm honestly just curious.
given the choice between a 16 year old who doesn't have a clue and a 40 year old who's sucked more dick than she can remember, i'll take the 40 year old every time.over the years have met several in the local watering holes that are 16-17ish. know several of the rich boys here that would show up in the bar with their 15 yo sugarbaby.
several of the stripper / escorts years ago were way younger than anybody knew. fake i. ds.
of course in europe the age of consent is very low. plenty of 14-16 yo.
and i'm with you again. rather the 40 yo that knows what she's doing. met many early 20's that were gorgeous but weren't that much fun. give me the 28 yo divorcee or single mom every time over the younger ones.
way back when a local stripper / escort was actually 23 but looked like 12-14. that used to shake people up. me traveling places with her. amused me to no end.
Out Of Towner2
12-03-11, 12:45
okay, i know i'm treading on thin ice in even asking this question, but it's something i'm curious about and just to be clear, i am not looking to hook up with anyone ****.
this post is not some type of back handed way to get information about anyone ****, it is a legitimate question.
the youngest provider i've ever been with was probably mid-20s, but what i'm curious about is i've had more than one provider tell me they've been working since they were young teens.
one told me she started escorting at 15 and another told me she'the been working the street since she was 14.
i've heard enough stories that i'm willing to believe that does happen, but i've never personally seen it.
the only exception would be a couple of years ago, i saw a girl on north central who one, looked like she was working and two, looked very young.
yes, while i know not to try to play captain save a ho, i was at least going to take her somewhere and get her something to eat, but by the time i got back around, she was gone.
i'm just curious as to how common the **** really is and again, i'm honestly just curious.
given the choice between a 16 year old who doesn't have a clue and a 40 year old who's sucked more dick than she can remember, i'll take the 40 year old every time.a couple of months ago in nashville they hauled in a bunch that were posting on bp for under age and human trafficing. some of the girls were stated to be 16 and 17. in the bp posts they looked young but not that young. so i guess it actually happens in pretty clear view.
there was a lady from nc visiting k-town about a year ago that said she was 43. she told me she had been "exposed" to the business when she was 17. the subject went to something else before i could ask what had been "exposed".
UpForItNow
12-03-11, 14:06
a couple of months ago in nashville they hauled in a bunch that were posting on bp for under age and human trafficing. some of the girls were stated to be 16 and 17. in the bp posts they looked young but not that young. so i guess it actually happens in pretty clear view.
there was a lady from nc visiting k-town about a year ago that said she was 43. she told me she had been "exposed" to the business when she was 17. the subject went to something else before i could ask what had been "exposed".it's important for all mongers to remember that **** is ****, whether she is working in the sex trade or not. it is statutory rape, and those convicted end up on the sex offender registry for life, even after their time is served.
it's always important to try to verify somehow the age of the girls you see, if there is any doubt. yes, asking to see an i.d. would be awkward, but we've got to look out for ourselves out there, and listen to the big head. some things just carry too much risk, imho. the little head taking over is tough to overcome, but the best advice is to just fuckin walk away if you think she might be ****.
just my 2 cents.
TonyMan123
12-03-11, 15:32
I called the number I posted the other day and I had a itilian the 2nd time and wow they keep getting better dallas is her name trust me guys there real eight six five for for six zero for eight nine is the number I called Dallas is sexy black hair thin and fit get Dallas she is the hottest!
It's three weeks till Christmas and we are fussing like pigs, and we surly must end these personal digs. Skboy and Pink must forgive and make up, there is Vaseline to spread and women to fuck.
Fred, he is a leaving, and not sorry to go, to a land of no football and plenty of Ho's.
Anksgf he's the young guy and all full of pluck; maybe Doc will teach him the UTR fuck.
Give thanks to Sir Jackson who brought us all here, raise up you cup and bye him a beer.
You must be wondering about crazy old Nick, well I am the guy with the happiest dick, while you guys were arguing, you took your eye off the ball, and I found your ladies, no trouble at all, you guys were busy with no time to play, just be kind to the ladies and remember to pay.
Be nice and have fun.
Can anyone spare a quarter for a cup of coffee; for some reason I find myself a little short this week.
Nick
That can only be the gleeful rhyme of a man who recently got his nuts emptied by an ole' favorite! Haha! Good stuff Nicholas!
It's three weeks till Christmas and we are fussing like pigs, and we surly must end these personal digs. Skboy and Pink must forgive and make up, there is Vaseline to spread and women to fuck.
Fred, he is a leaving, and not sorry to go, to a land of no football and plenty of Ho's.
Anksgf he's the young guy and all full of pluck; maybe Doc will teach him the UTR fuck.
Give thanks to Sir Jackson who brought us all here, raise up you cup and bye him a beer.
You must be wondering about crazy old Nick, well I am the guy with the happiest dick, while you guys were arguing, you took your eye off the ball, and I found your ladies, no trouble at all, you guys were busy with no time to play, just be kind to the ladies and remember to pay.
Be nice and have fun.
Can anyone spare a quarter for a cup of coffee; for some reason I find myself a little short this week.
Nick
I called the number I posted the other day and I had a itilian the 2nd time and wow they keep getting better dallas is her name trust me guys there real eight six five for for six zero for eight nine is the number I called Dallas is sexy black hair thin and fit get Dallas she is the hottest!Has anyone else called or texted this number and gone and seen this girl (s). I have seen several ads on CL over time and they all have the same number with a different name and a different story about who they are etc. The ads sound good but I am leery of what might be waiting for me. Any intelligence on this number / story would be appreciated. It sounds good on th surface.
Member #4178
12-05-11, 11:31
I called the number I posted the other day and I had a itilian the 2nd time and wow they keep getting better dallas is her name trust me guys there real eight six five for for six zero for eight nine is the number I called Dallas is sexy black hair thin and fit get Dallas she is the hottest!
Has anyone else called or texted this number and gone and seen this girl (s). I have seen several ads on CL over time and they all have the same number with a different name and a different story about who they are etc. The ads sound good but I am leery of what might be waiting for me. Any intelligence on this number / story would be appreciated. It sounds good on th surface.That's my question, too. So far,"TonyMan123" is the only one to have reported on these numbers he keeps posting, and as a brand new board member, that's basically all he's posted on so far. It seems just a little TGTBT for my tastes, but I could be completely wrong. It's just a little too sketchy for me to jump into the shark infested waters at this point.
TPP, I did the same review and came up with the same conclusion. It sounds really good, but I'm going to stay on the sidelines on this one till I see better data.
Yurengr
That's my question, too. So far,"TonyMan123" is the only one to have reported on these numbers he keeps posting, and as a brand new board member, that's basically all he's posted on so far. It seems just a little TGTBT for my tastes, but I could be completely wrong. It's just a little too sketchy for me to jump into the shark infested waters at this point.
Interested to learn more about this one. Any further Intel? PM if you prefer.
Happy dreams
I had to take a quick nap this afternoon and dreamed I was introduced to a UTR type that is very new to the hobby and very eager to meet people here in Knoxville, her name is trish and she said to give her number out 865-235-8681, I don't like to tell all about my dreams, but it was well worth the time and very reasonable priced, she is in the maryville area, but said she would gladly drive to knoxville to nap! Hope you enjoy and treat her well guys hoepfully she will stay awhile!
Member #4178
12-05-11, 20:21
Interested to learn more about this one. Any further Intel? PM if you prefer.
Happy dreamsSee CMoney's post (1929 I think) this thread just a couple days ago.
Out Of Towner2
12-05-11, 23:03
TPP, I did the same review and came up with the same conclusion. It sounds really good, but I'm going to stay on the sidelines on this one till I see better data.
YurengrI sent him a PM after the first posting about him texting her and getting a dream girl but got no reply. I was not looking for dirty details only basic intel.
Interested to learn more about this one. Any further Intel? PM if you prefer.
Happy dreamsTalked to Trish yesterday, to set up a meet for today around 2pm. We talked for about five mins she said that she was new to this and I could tell she was alittle nervous, but she sent me a pic and said we would meet today. Called and sent a text to confirm meet ,this was about 12 noon. Have not heard back from her at this time. Sidenote, on her VM she states to leave a message and maybe she will call you back or maybe she won,t. I will try again in a few days to see her and will post if I do.
I'd like to thank Dr. Holiday for the great idea of UTR girls.
During the Christmas holidays, I hate having to go shopping and fight the crowds. So I shop online from the convenience of my home.
I realized that with UTR girls, I could also do online shopping without tipping my hand. Thank you CraigsList!
I posted an ad with no picture laying out the deal. I'm looking to help girls out for the holidays in exchange for a little attention. I had two real responses from the ad. One was mid 30's and a little large for my taste. I could tell by our exchanges that in addition to making cash, this girl's a sex hound. She wanted forty bucks for an extended roll in the hay. Speaking of rolls, she had too many so I passed.
The second young lady was 25 years old, a little pudgy, and 5'10". Very pretty face, sweet personality. We exchanged two dozen emails and pics and arranged a meeting. I fucked, err. I mean "dreamed" the hell out of her a couple of times. She's so new to this she didn't even ask for the donation, so I put sixty bucks on her dresser on the way out the door.
Since she's UTR and to my knowledge hasn't done this before, I can't give out digits. But I wanted to share the methodology with my fellow mongers in case you wanted to take a similar shot for not a lot of money.
Play safe!
Talked to Trish yesterday, to set up a meet for today around 2pm. We talked for about five mins she said that she was new to this and I could tell she was alittle nervous, but she sent me a pic and said we would meet today. Called and sent a text to confirm meet ,this was about 12 noon. Have not heard back from her at this time. Sidenote, on her VM she states to leave a message and maybe she will call you back or maybe she won,t. I will try again in a few days to see her and will post if I do.I thought we might have found a good one but she's really being kinda of shady I texted her yesterday and was tryin to set something up, we text for about two or three min. Then didn't hear nothing else from her, but I did talk to jade today and she was telling me that trish is one of the girls flagging all the other girls ads on CL so I'm beginning to think that trish ain't new to this and trish's first ad was posted by jade. Jade is probably the most reliable I have had in a long time.
BigDaddyFirst
12-06-11, 22:45
This guy, tonyman is pimping ladies out of his white trailer off exit 402, near straw berry plains. Exit is called mid way exit this guy is named kenny bailey and he is running these massages out of his trailer with a flag out front which has a be on it. I went for a massage one night, with a dallas and she was greta but I heard the cops are steaking out his place getting ready to run a sting opp on it. Just want to let all of you know. Don't get message there. Also, I heard this kenny guy actually watches his hoes give the massages. I wonder if he was gettin his rocks off when she was rubbing me down. LOL and e way, be careful, thats all I'm sayin got to spread the word and keep every one safe peace, love.
I called the number I posted the other day and I had a itilian the 2nd time and wow they keep getting better dallas is her name trust me guys there real eight six five for for six zero for eight nine is the number I called Dallas is sexy black hair thin and fit get Dallas she is the hottest!
BigDaddyFirst
12-06-11, 23:30
Heads up to you. This guy runs this massage out of his trailer out off exit 402, midway exit. I went in for a msaage with one of the girls, a pretty but a little gutter gal for me. One but I heard the place is being watched by the po po. I had hoped to enoucnter jenni so if anyone knows this girls number, please share. Heard she is gorgeou!
Just be careful on this one guys.
TPP, I did the same review and came up with the same conclusion. It sounds really good, but I'm going to stay on the sidelines on this one till I see better data.
Yurengr
I have been consulting with my CPA, getting ready for Uncle Sam's Ransom demands for this year and I have a couple of deduction Issues.
Alexis; I cannot decide if she is a dependant or better yet a qualified medical expense. Let's say blood pressure relief.
Harley; Absolutely an entertainment expense. I just do not know if the IRS would appreciate me deducting an entertainment expense for which I was the chief entertainee.
Anna; Definitely an education expense as that women has taught me a couple of valuable lessons. In a good way!
Amber; Staff Welfare, because she sure does treat my staff well!
I guess I should just pay the taxes, I do not think any of these ladies will acknowledge the income (Hell, Alexis would probably be in the top tax bracket) nor make outcalls to the Federal Pen.
Did anyone hear about a raid at the 6 the other day. I was told they cleaned out the hole building closest to interstate.
Did anyone hear about a raid at the 6 the other day. I was told they cleaned out the hole building closest to interstate.Which Motel 6?
Oh, the one next to the interstate?
THAT one.
Sorry, I'm trying not to be a smartass or at least, not too much of one, but you just described pretty much every Motel 6 in the country.
As far as a raid on one here, not that I heard of, but that's a case where Google is really your friend.
If you can't Google and find at least one reference, then odds are, it never happened.
Regular BP users know that there are two Motel 6s on Lovell Road. One is closer to the interstate than the other. I think most of us knew exactly what Cmoney was talking about.
Haven't heard anything about the raid, Cmon.
Which Motel 6?
Oh, the one next to the interstate?
THAT one.
Sorry, I'm trying not to be a smartass or at least, not too much of one, but you just described pretty much every Motel 6 in the country.
As far as a raid on one here, not that I heard of, but that's a case where Google is really your friend.
If you can't Google and find at least one reference, then odds are, it never happened.
Which Motel 6?
Oh, the one next to the interstate?
THAT one.
Sorry, I'm trying not to be a smartass or at least, not too much of one, but you just described pretty much every Motel 6 in the country.
As far as a raid on one here, not that I heard of, but that's a case where Google is really your friend.
If you can't Google and find at least one reference, then odds are, it never happened.Merchants motel 6 a regular guest told me that but I can't find nothing on the web so its probably bull.
Member #4088
12-08-11, 09:56
I was stopped and questioned by a pair of cops there a few months ago. I'd just been there with a friend. They told me they were looking for a pimp named Dwayne that the office had been complaining about.
Member #6355
12-08-11, 10:05
Regular BP users know that there are two Motel 6s on Lovell Road. One is closer to the interstate than the other. I think most of us knew exactly what Cmoney was talking about.
Haven't heard anything about the raid, Cmon.If true then good riddance. I had a near disaster there with Destiny (knock-on-door interruption, weirdos hanging around parking lot), which led me to swear off both her and that dump.
If true then good riddance. I had a near disaster there with Destiny (knock-on-door interruption, weirdos hanging around parking lot), which led me to swear off both her and that dump.Good riddance is right. That's where Bella Che used to hang out. Never had a problem seeing her there but the place, and the people hanging around really creeped me out!
Merchants motel 6 a regular guest told me that but I can't find nothing on the web so its probably bull.Yeah, I did a bit of Googling and I didn't find anything either.
Doesn't mean for sure it didn't happen, but normally something like that, there would be at least one or two news stories, especially given Motel 6 is a national chain.
So this is more a question than it is a report, but I'm curious as to anyone who has had a threesome with two hoes and how did it go?
While like most guys, I'the like to do two girls at the same time, this idea really started building a few weeks ago when I got to talking to a SWer who come to find out, has done threesomes with another SWer I know.
The idea that is growing in my mind is to first get with two hoes.
This has been discussed here in the past, but personally, I always pay them up front and I'm not worried about getting ripped off because I also pretty much always bring them back to my house and I never allow them to pick a location.
I don't worry about a ripoff when it's just the two of us, I'm twice her size AND I'm her ride to the dealer's house.
Anyway, my idea is, your average ho is likely to know other hoes and so find one and then see if she has a friend.
If she does, give them both X amount of money up front, but then make them a deal.
The deal is, whichever ho proves she's the biggest ho, she gets a tip.
You want the tip, well okay, I like a girl who swallows.
I like to have my ass licked.
I like BBFS.
I like to take a belt to a girl's ass.
I'd like to cum in one girl and then have another one lick her clean.
Etc.
While in truth, if they were good providers, I'the tip both of them and hope for another fun time in the future, but I'm loving the idea of them competing with each other, thinking that only the one who is the sluttiest is going to get the extra $.
Anybody have any experience with something like that?
Out Of Towner2
12-10-11, 07:34
So this is more a question than it is a report, but I'm curious as to anyone who has had a threesome with two hoes and how did it go?
While like most guys, I'the like to do two girls at the same time, this idea really started building a few weeks ago when I got to talking to a SWer who come to find out, has done threesomes with another SWer I know.
The idea that is growing in my mind is to first get with two hoes.
This has been discussed here in the past, but personally, I always pay them up front and I'm not worried about getting ripped off because I also pretty much always bring them back to my house and I never allow them to pick a location.
I don't worry about a ripoff when it's just the two of us, I'm twice her size AND I'm her ride to the dealer's house.
Anyway, my idea is, your average ho is likely to know other hoes and so find one and then see if she has a friend.
If she does, give them both X amount of money up front, but then make them a deal.
The deal is, whichever ho proves she's the biggest ho, she gets a tip.
You want the tip, well okay, I like a girl who swallows.
I like to have my ass licked.
I like BBFS.
I like to take a belt to a girl's ass.
I'd like to cum in one girl and then have another one lick her clean.
Etc.
While in truth, if they were good providers, I'the tip both of them and hope for another fun time in the future, but I'm loving the idea of them competing with each other, thinking that only the one who is the sluttiest is going to get the extra $.
Anybody have any experience with something like that?I have done a little something like this but I worked it a little differently.
I found one I liked and semi trusted told her what my interests were, how much I was going to spend (I have even given a little up front so if they want or need a little tweak.) and I told her the money deal was between me and her. For her to decide how much of the activity and money she wanted and get the other girl to do the rest. And if the other girl refused, girl number one either helped change girl #2's mind, help "hold her down" or take her place in the activity. It has made for some interesting times.
I have done a little something like this but I worked it a little differently.
I found one I liked and semi trusted told her what my interests were, how much I was going to spend (I have even given a little up front so if they want or need a little tweak.) and I told her the money deal was between me and her. For her to decide how much of the activity and money she wanted and get the other girl to do the rest. And if the other girl refused, girl number one either helped change girl #2's mind, help "hold her down" or take her place in the activity. It has made for some interesting times.
If I have misunderstood, I'll apologize, but it sounds to me that you are saying "hold her down" as a way of "participate in a rape?" I don't call that "interesting". I call that "sick and criminal."
Dr Holiday
12-11-11, 09:21
When its a bi girl that suggests adding another its the most fun. Cause they really go after each other besides me.
Just two straight girls together not so much fun and just more expensive. Not worth it.
OTH, if out of perversity you want them to get into something they really don't like to do, then by all means go for it with the straight girls.
WheelerJim
12-11-11, 10:08
Yes I ahve ahad plenty of three some and the girls always end up better together and leave me out at first just got to break in make them pay attention, just as soon do one hoe at a time, girls do much better when two dudes are screwin one girl.
Member #6355
12-11-11, 10:21
Yes I ahve ahad plenty of three some and the girls always end up better together and leave me out at first just got to break in make them pay attention, just as soon do one hoe at a time, girls do much better when two dudes are screwin one girl.You know why old guys like myself like two girls at once?
So the girls will have someone to talk to when I fall asleep.
[Cue rim shot]
You know why old guys tell the same jokes over and over again?
I forget.
This time of year, I find myself consumed with annual family, office and other associated social obligations. This can make it difficult to spend time with the ladies we are lucky enough to share some great times with throughout the remainder of the year. But what is a scheduling problem for some of us is an economic problem for the ladies. I had to get creative but I was able to spend a few Great hours yesterday with my ATF. She was VERY appreciative and confirmed what a struggle the holidays can be financially. Now do not get me wrong, my greatest priority will always be my family and this is a great time of year to slow down and reconnect with family and friends. However, I (and this is just me) also feel a bit of an obligation (admittedly somewhat based in self interest) to help the lady who does so much for my mental and physical health all year long.
I know this is not profound but I just wanted to put it out there.
Senna
You're a good man, Senna. And what's just a few dollars to us can mean a whole lot to them. It's funny, but when I overtip a girl who's obviously hard up on her luck, it feels like I'm doing a good deed.
This time of year, I find myself consumed with annual family, office and other associated social obligations. This can make it difficult to spend time with the ladies we are lucky enough to share some great times with throughout the remainder of the year. But what is a scheduling problem for some of us is an economic problem for the ladies. I had to get creative but I was able to spend a few Great hours yesterday with my ATF. She was VERY appreciative and confirmed what a struggle the holidays can be financially. Now do not get me wrong, my greatest priority will always be my family and this is a great time of year to slow down and reconnect with family and friends. However, I (and this is just me) also feel a bit of an obligation (admittedly somewhat based in self interest) to help the lady who does so much for my mental and physical health all year long.
I know this is not profound but I just wanted to put it out there.
Senna
Out Of Towner2
12-11-11, 16:33
If I have misunderstood, I'll apologize, but it sounds to me that you are saying "hold her down" as a way of "participate in a rape?" I don't call that "interesting". I call that "sick and criminal."There was never any force. I was simply using it as an expression. The worst that ever happened was a disagreement over the amount of money girl #2 got for a menu item I had told girl #1 about. It got resolved between them without force or violence. From my point of view, push come to shove, #1 made the deal thus "accountable" BUT that is not how it got resolved. LOL made things a little interesting.
There was never any force. I was simply using it as an expression. The worst that ever happened was a disagreement over the amount of money girl #2 got for a menu item I had told girl #1 about. It got resolved between them without force or violence. From my point of view, push come to shove, #1 made the deal thus "accountable" BUT that is not how it got resolved. LOL made things a little interesting.Good to know Towner! I didn't think that sounded like you from your previous posts (but none of us know what lies in the heart or mind of the other posters here, so I had to say something about what I percieved to be a line that shouldn't be crossed).
Yes I ahve ahad plenty of three some and the girls always end up better together and leave me out at first just got to break in make them pay attention, just as soon do one hoe at a time, girls do much better when two dudes are screwin one girl.Yeah, I'd love to do a threesome with two guys and a ho.
I'm willing to bet that two guys working together could really work her over, especially if she was promised a performance based tip afterward.
Who knows, maybe I could hook up with somebody from here and we could do that?
When its a bi girl that suggests adding another its the most fun. Cause they really go after each other besides me.
Just two straight girls together not so much fun and just more expensive. Not worth it.
OTH, if out of perversity you want them to get into something they really don't like to do, then by all means go for it with the straight girls.Yeah, I'm sure two bi girls would be fun, but the idea of sitting back with a drink and watching while two totally straight girls eat each other out, knowing that they are hating every second of it REALLY turns me on.
Out Of Towner2
12-12-11, 05:57
Good to know Towner! I didn't think that sounded like you from your previous posts (but none of us know what lies in the heart or mind of the other posters here, so I had to say something about what I percieved to be a line that shouldn't be crossed).I should have put quotation marks around the "hold her down" or something like to show I was only "turning a phase". We're cool and you are right, I am a kind hearted but YET a dirty old man.
Is the Candy on Angela's Escorts the same as TNCandy which I hear might not be the safest option? I hope not. That Candy is hot.
GiannaMacabre
12-12-11, 13:08
This time of year, I find myself consumed with annual family, office and other associated social obligations. This can make it difficult to spend time with the ladies we are lucky enough to share some great times with throughout the remainder of the year. But what is a scheduling problem for some of us is an economic problem for the ladies. I had to get creative but I was able to spend a few Great hours yesterday with my ATF. She was VERY appreciative and confirmed what a struggle the holidays can be financially. Now do not get me wrong, my greatest priority will always be my family and this is a great time of year to slow down and reconnect with family and friends. However, I (and this is just me) also feel a bit of an obligation (admittedly somewhat based in self interest) to help the lady who does so much for my mental and physical health all year long.
I know this is not profound but I just wanted to put it out there.
SennaGive yourself some credit, from what I read a lot of times people forget that our relationship is symbiotic and that we are people too so I would say that your post is quite profound. And sweet! .
Thebossmro
12-12-11, 14:21
Is the Candy on Angela's Escorts the same as TNCandy which I hear might not be the safest option? I hope not. That Candy is hot.No they are not the same TnCandy is a BBW the one from Angela's is a smoking hot Blonde. I had a dream of that one during the summer and had fun.
Has checked out of the Graybar.
Member #4178
12-12-11, 18:00
Has checked out of the Graybar.About damn time. She was in there a LONG time; I guess it was the V. O. P. That got her such an extended stay? Hope she can stay out this time.
Yeah, I'm sure two bi girls would be fun, but the idea of sitting back with a drink and watching while two totally straight girls eat each other out, knowing that they are hating every second of it REALLY turns me on.I have to admit, that is a big turn on for me as well. I know a Straight girl who did some doubles and while she won't admit it directly, she made it Pretty clear she hated eating pussy. Ever since then I have wanted to watch her go down on another girl so bad I cannot stand it! Guess I will have to pay up or just let it go.
I have to admit, that is a big turn on for me as well. I know a Straight girl who did some doubles and while she won't admit it directly, she made it Pretty clear she hated eating pussy. Ever since then I have wanted to watch her go down on another girl so bad I cannot stand it! Guess I will have to pay up or just let it go.If I were you, I'd pay up and watch the show.
The average ho will do pretty much anything if the money is right.
You could just sit back and watch, but it'd also be fun to grab her hair and make sure she's got her face all the way down that shit.
Something else that would be cool but probably hard to arrange, would be one straight girl and a bull dyke type.
As I said, hard to arrange, but it would be a hot show if you could.
Dr Holiday
12-13-11, 09:41
I have to admit, that is a big turn on for me as well. I know a Straight girl who did some doubles and while she won't admit it directly, she made it Pretty clear she hated eating pussy. Ever since then I have wanted to watch her go down on another girl so bad I cannot stand it! Guess I will have to pay up or just let it go.Me too, like two of them having to do each other. Knowing they don't like it. Not much of backdoor sex guy. But have taken anal virginity of a number of UTR types. Just because they don't want too.
Bit of a mean streak in me I guess.
Me too, like two of them having to do each other. Knowing they don't like it. Not much of backdoor sex guy. But have taken anal virginity of a number of UTR types. Just because they don't want too.
Bit of a mean streak in me I guess.For me, I think it's just about control and humiliation.
The psychology may go deeper than that, I don't know, but the worst thing a ho who doesn't like it in the ass can say to me is she doesn't like it in the ass.
Well, guess what *
You do want some money don't you?
Most girls, once they're with you, they will do pretty much anything because they can't be certain of finding another guy who will pay them and that's especially true of the druggie ones.
The druggie ones aren't looking for some money to pay their rent in a few days, they're looking for money for their next hit and usually a ride to the dealer's house.
It's amazing how fast, I don't take it in the ass can turn into, face down, ass up and she's reaching back spreading her cheeks for you.
I've never been with two at the same time and this is a very new idea I got from here, but I'm loving the idea of watching two totally straight girls do each other.
Might be a bit hard to put together in that a lot of girls have at least some bi tendencies, but it'd be awesome to find two totally straight ones and then sit back and watch them eat each other out.
Then whichever one seems to hate it the most, gets fucked while the other ones sits on her face.
Sexhoundtn2
12-13-11, 12:14
Me too, like two of them having to do each other. Knowing they don't like it. Not much of backdoor sex guy. But have taken anal virginity of a number of UTR types. Just because they don't want too.
Bit of a mean streak in me I guess.Damned Doc, I thought I was the only perverted sex freak on here. There is a certain level of excitement in that.
InFromBehind
12-13-11, 16:25
For me, I think it's just about control and humiliation.
The psychology may go deeper than that, I don't know, but the worst thing a ho who doesn't like it in the ass can say to me is she doesn't like it in the ass.
Well, guess what *
You do want some money don't you?
Most girls, once they're with you, they will do pretty much anything because they can't be certain of finding another guy who will pay them and that's especially true of the druggie ones.
The druggie ones aren't looking for some money to pay their rent in a few days, they're looking for money for their next hit and usually a ride to the dealer's house.
It's amazing how fast, I don't take it in the ass can turn into, face down, ass up and she's reaching back spreading her cheeks for you.
I've never been with two at the same time and this is a very new idea I got from here, but I'm loving the idea of watching two totally straight girls do each other.
Might be a bit hard to put together in that a lot of girls have at least some bi tendencies, but it'd be awesome to find two totally straight ones and then sit back and watch them eat each other out.
Then whichever one seems to hate it the most, gets fucked while the other ones sits on her face.That's some twisted shit, but funny.
Dr Holiday
12-13-11, 17:27
Damned Doc, I thought I was the only perverted sex freak on here. There is a certain level of excitement in that.Knowing they will do it not wanting too for the cash anyway. Maybe some sort of control domination thing by me.
Maybe I just a have a bit of a mean streak.
I like doing Miss goody two shoes that's giving it up the first time for cash. (not barter for dinner, drinks, movie. Which is the same far as I'm concerned but they don't see it that way).
Yep, feels like a power domination thing in me.
Only kind of virgins one can find to deflower these days. ROLMAO.
Knowing they will do it not wanting too for the cash anyway. Maybe some sort of control domination thing by me.
Maybe I just a have a bit of a mean streak.
I like doing Miss goody two shoes that's giving it up the first time for cash. (not barter for dinner, drinks, movie. Which is the same far as I'm concerned but they don't see it that way).
Yep, feels like a power domination thing in me.
Only kind of virgins one can find to deflower these days. ROLMAO.I don't entirely agree on that in that.
I tend more toward the view that women have that they aren't bartering in exchange for dinner, drinks, etc.
I tend toward the view of if you want to fuck her then you should take her out and show her a good time.
Also, over the years, I've been friends with many women who were just friends, who never led me to believe it was going to be anything more than that and yet I still spent money on them.
The part I totally agree with though I totally love the whole, here's some money now spread your legs thing with a girl who doesn't want to be doing it and the more I sense she dislikes it, the more I remind her what a working girl she is.
One of the best fucks I've ever had was with a working girl who couldn't remember my name. Once I realized she didn't remember my name, I really had some fun telling shit like, you don't know my name but you know my dick is ramming your working girl * don't you?
Musonius Rufus
12-14-11, 07:24
For me, I think it's just about control and humiliation.I have power and control fantasies, but have yet to put any into practice. Although I have a wide range of tastes, oral and vaginal have been enough.
My life philosophy is that consenting adults should be allowed to do what they wish.
Musonius Rufus
12-14-11, 08:56
Any of Alexis' regulars know if she is still around? Her last ad in BP is from 12-6 and her web site shows it is paused or no longer available.
If I were you, I'd pay up and watch the show.
The average ho will do pretty much anything if the money is right.
You could just sit back and watch, but it'd also be fun to grab her hair and make sure she's got her face all the way down that shit.
Something else that would be cool but probably hard to arrange, would be one straight girl and a bull dyke type.
As I said, hard to arrange, but it would be a hot show if you could.I will let you guys figure out the deep, dark psychological origins! I just want to hand her a little extra cash and say:
"Eat that shit like it is your Fuckin birthday cake"
Dr Holiday
12-14-11, 10:17
I will let you guys figure out the deep, dark psychological origins! I just want to hand her a little extra cash and say:
"Eat that shit like it is your Fuckin birthday cake"Over analyzing my own motivations a bad habit.
Simple explanation is always the best.
Its a damn fun thing to do.
Over analyzing my own motivations a bad habit.
Simple explanation is always the best.
Its a damn fun thing to do.Yep, I agree with that.
Also, the straighter she is, the more she doesn't want to do it and the more desperate she is for cash would all add to the fun.
The only part I'm not sure of is, which would be more fun, sit back and watch or grab her hair and shove her face all the way in it?
Any of Alexis' regulars know if she is still around? Her last ad in BP is from 12-6 and her web site shows it is paused or no longer available.I exchanged texts with her last week. She didn't mention any big changes. She usually takes a couple weeks off this time of year. I was planning a visit soon so let me know if you find anything out.
Any of Alexis' regulars know if she is still around? Her last ad in BP is from 12-6 and her web site shows it is paused or no longer available.Last time I came to Knoxtown I tried to get a hold of Alexis but couldn't connect so I saw Amber! Man I love gumming here! Today I tried unsuccessfully to connect with Amber so I called Alexis again! We had a great time and just before I left she said,"oh my gosh look what time it is! I have a calculus test this afternoon and I have to get ready!"
It hit me, I just had a romp with a true coed a third my age! Man I love this town! Now I if you just get Amber and Alexis together!
Last time I came to Knoxtown I tried to get a hold of Alexis but couldn't connect so I saw Amber! Man I love gumming here! Today I tried unsuccessfully to connect with Amber so I called Alexis again! We had a great time and just before I left she said,"oh my gosh look what time it is! I have a calculus test this afternoon and I have to get ready!"
It hit me, I just had a romp with a true coed a third my age! Man I love this town! Now I if you just get Amber and Alexis together!No you didn't. If you think you did, then I have some buildings and bridges I'd like to sell.
If you think I believe you did, then I'll go have STOOPID tattooed on my forehead.
I exchanged texts with her last week. She didn't mention any big changes. She usually takes a couple weeks off this time of year. I was planning a visit soon so let me know if you find anything out.She and I have exchanged text messages as well. She's still "in the game" as far as I know.
No you didn't. If you think you did, then I have some buildings and bridges I'd like to sell.
If you think I believe you did, then I'll go have STOOPID tattooed on my forehead.Don't forget, the moon is made of cheese! You are too funny Anksgf!
Seriously guys, she is a great girl. Just call her up and go have some Christmas cheer! As long is she is not tied up in finals.
Last time I came to Knoxtown I tried to get a hold of Alexis but couldn't connect so I saw Amber! Man I love gumming here! Today I tried unsuccessfully to connect with Amber so I called Alexis again! We had a great time and just before I left she said,"oh my gosh look what time it is! I have a calculus test this afternoon and I have to get ready!"
It hit me, I just had a romp with a true coed a third my age! Man I love this town! Now I if you just get Amber and Alexis together!By the way Blewjay, I am just jealous! I was out of town alone yesterday and I will give You one guess with whom I got spend my intimate time. Let's just say I got what I paid for, as opposed to time with Alexis which seems like an embarrassing bargain.
Ssshhhhhh!
No you didn't. If you think you did, then I have some buildings and bridges I'd like to sell.
If you think I believe you did, then I'll go have STOOPID tattooed on my forehead.
Big Dog496
12-16-11, 11:40
Just saw uncle leo grouping up in the outback parkin lot off merchants. They had 2 cruisers, a black extra cab chevy 1500, a red extra cab chevy 1500 (both trucks at least 04 model) , a sivler ford escape. Looked like they were gettin ready for something pretty big. Be careful out there guys.
Member #6355
12-16-11, 15:17
Just saw uncle leo grouping up in the outback parkin lot off merchants. They had 2 cruisers, a black extra cab chevy 1500, a red extra cab chevy 1500 (both trucks at least 04 model) , a sivler ford escape. Looked like they were gettin ready for something pretty big. Be careful out there guys.Any updates? Nothing on local news.
Bridgeportguy
12-16-11, 20:59
I tried searching, nothing came up on Gia other than her own posts. Is this legit. She seems cool on the phone.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/holiday-specials-100-hr-with-knoxvilles-wild-child-gia-24/4829030
Anyone have any experience with Voronica?
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Member #6355
12-17-11, 06:14
Anyone have any experience with Voronica?Plenty of glowing reviews, including mine. Just use search.
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