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Dr Holiday
03-29-11, 17:27
Heading to vegas in a few days and doing a little research on the scene out there. I was checking the boards and it appears that the pay before you play that you expect around here is reversed there and you pay after. Has anyone experienced this? Also how much is the expected rate for GFE? If you have been there and can recommend some ladies or give a newbie some advice it would be much appreciated.Can find what you want from $150 all the way up to the thousands.
Its a really big menu.
Not to mention if there on weekend, the amount of freebie is extraordinary. Can find 10+ woman sitting at bar in Cesars at anytime thur-sat nite.
Saw a new massage therapist yesterday at the suggestion of WheelerJim. I'd never seen an ad for her, nor had I ever heard of her.
Consider PMing him and BEGGING for her number. Anna.
Thank you, sir.
Joe Monger
03-31-11, 23:16
I RTFF and took the lead of some of the other members on here, and began searching CL for some UTR girls. 1st day was a success. The ad shouldn't be too hard to find but Senior Members can feel free to PM me for the digits. Nice girl, spinner-type, mid 20's (I believe) and willing to trade a good time for $. She's also 420 friendly. One of the few bright spots I've experienced in the mongering wasteland that is Knoxville.
I RTFF and took the lead of some of the other members on here, and began searching CL for some UTR girls. 1st day was a success. The ad shouldn't be too hard to find but Senior Members can feel free to PM me for the digits. Nice girl, spinner-type, mid 20's (I believe) and willing to trade a good time for $. She's also 420 friendly. One of the few bright spots I've experienced in the mongering wasteland that is Knoxville.I believe I know who you are talking about. She also has a yahoo handle.
Dr Holiday
04-01-11, 02:06
I RTFF and took the lead of some of the other members on here, and began searching CL for some UTR girls. 1st day was a success. The ad shouldn't be too hard to find but Senior Members can feel free to PM me for the digits. Nice girl, spinner-type, mid 20's (I believe) and willing to trade a good time for $. She's also 420 friendly. One of the few bright spots I've experienced in the mongering wasteland that is Knoxville.Out how it works around here. More for the rest of us.
Please move to Atlanta.
RandddomGuy
04-01-11, 14:03
Heading to vegas in a few days and doing a little research on the scene out there. I was checking the boards and it appears that the pay before you play that you expect around here is reversed there and you pay after. Has anyone experienced this? Also how much is the expected rate for GFE? If you have been there and can recommend some ladies or give a newbie some advice it would be much appreciated.If GFE is what you're looking for, and you don't mind a thicker girl, I would highly recommend Devani Larose. Very well reviewed, and latest pics were accurate as of the last time I saw her.
Joe Monger
04-01-11, 19:42
Out how it works around here. More for the rest of us.
Please move to Atlanta. Lmao thanks for the kind words. And yes, Atlanta is far superior to the shit hole that is Knoxville. However, I will not leave 'more for the rest of you'. I'm here now, so you can either share or gtfo. I've already pm'd contact info to numerous people so I'm doing my part. If you want to be an asshole go right ahead.
I am not trying to get involved in any arguement, but Joe Monger is pretty much right about Knoxville. Mongering here is horrible. You can go to Atlanta, Birmingham, Huntsville, or Nashville and have better selection and pricing any day of the week. I never saw a lady over 24 at an AMP when I lived elsewhere, and around this area the average age seems to be about 45 or so. 95% of the SW's in the area are so strung out, they quite simply look like death. Sorry, if that is any one elses taste go ahead but it does nothing for me. I love East Tn and chose to make the knoxville area my home, but mongering here is pretty pathetic.
And since this is a general topic forum, it wouldn't be right not to contribute. I frequent the downtown Knoxville area, and see a variety of SW's around magnolia and broadway (near the greyhound station) as well as all the way up magnolia towards rutledge pike. You also get some spill over from the shelters if you head away from town on broadway. If your looking for SW action, you can find it most of the time in this area, but be warned leo knows the area well and has been known to set up stings off of magnolia. If it looks to good to be true, it very well may be. Stay safe out there guys, and be nice in here.
Well I have yet to see a stroll out here & since I am far from here I dout I would step out of my comfort zone I am from california & I love it there but I would have to agree when it come to sws out here. But to throw it out there I'm far from a druggy an I post online but I am offering USA member specials. So give me a call I posted my number on the advertising section
Yourz truly,
Melissa bankz
Dr Holiday
04-02-11, 17:41
Lmao thanks for the kind words. And yes, Atlanta is far superior to the shit hole that is Knoxville. However, I will not leave 'more for the rest of you'. I'm here now, so you can either share or gtfo. I've already pm'd contact info to numerous people so I'm doing my part. If you want to be an asshole go right ahead.Sorry. Didn't mean it to sound like that.
Joe Monger
04-02-11, 22:32
I am not trying to get involved in any arguement, but Joe Monger is pretty much right about Knoxville. Mongering here is horrible. You can go to Atlanta, Birmingham, Huntsville, or Nashville and have better selection and pricing any day of the week. I never saw a lady over 24 at an AMP when I lived elsewhere, and around this area the average age seems to be about 45 or so. 95% of the SW's in the area are so strung out, they quite simply look like death. Sorry, if that is any one elses taste go ahead but it does nothing for me. I love East Tn and chose to make the knoxville area my home, but mongering here is pretty pathetic.
And since this is a general topic forum, it wouldn't be right not to contribute. I frequent the downtown Knoxville area, and see a variety of SW's around magnolia and broadway (near the greyhound station) as well as all the way up magnolia towards rutledge pike. You also get some spill over from the shelters if you head away from town on broadway. If your looking for SW action, you can find it most of the time in this area, but be warned leo knows the area well and has been known to set up stings off of magnolia. If it looks to good to be true, it very well may be. Stay safe out there guys, and be nice in here. This guy speaks the truth. And I feel you about the AMP's. In LA I never saw a girl at an AMP over the age of 25. Over here they're all as old as my mother. And as far as the streets go I gave up on that a LONG time ago. The SW's here are downtown Los Angeles quality. At best. Which is to say that I wouldn't fuck them unless they paid ME. And even then I'd wear a protective suit and 3 condoms LOL.
Haven't dreamed in a while. But did last night. Went to see the long legged red head Sara. She's moved to a much better location. More open and friendly. Her last place was really run down.
As usual she treats me good and really gets into it too.
Started with BBBJ then to DFK. Pulled on a party hat. She pulled me into. DATY. Yumm. Mish. Then Doggy. Never rushes. And always takes the time for talk afterwards.
Treat her well fellow mongers. She's on my ongoing "to do" list. Hehe.
Out Of Towner2
04-05-11, 10:31
Haven't dreamed in a while. But did last night. Went to see the long legged red head Sara. She's moved to a much better location. More open and friendly. Her last place was really run down.
As usual she treats me good and really gets into it too.
Started with BBBJ then to DFK. Pulled on a party hat. She pulled me into. DATY. Yumm. Mish. Then Doggy. Never rushes. And always takes the time for talk afterwards.
Treat her well fellow mongers. She's on my ongoing "to do" list. Hehe. I finally met Sara yesterday. And thank you Sharky2 for giving me the number a month or so ago. I will be back! We even spent some time talking about my "wishlist" as I was leaving. I think it will take a good many visits to check them off. Be good to this lady. She seems to be making good choices in her life but doesn't seem to be interested in giving up how she pays the rent. It is a good thing she lives 4 hours away or I would have a problem with my cash flow for the next few weeks.
Where is a link with her pics? I am coming to Kville in less than 2 weeks and looking!
I finally met Sara yesterday. And thank you Sharky2 for giving me the number a month or so ago. I will be back! We even spent some time talking about my "wishlist" as I was leaving. I think it will take a good many visits to check them off. Be good to this lady. She seems to be making good choices in her life but doesn't seem to be interested in giving up how she pays the rent. It is a good thing she lives 4 hours away or I would have a problem with my cash flow for the next few weeks.
Where is a link with her pics? I am coming to Kville in less than 2 weeks and looking!I would NOT recommend seeing her. Unless I am thinking about wrong Sara (correct me if I am wrong Sharky and Out of Towner) she used to be SW. Then she got arrested few times and local newspaper reported that she has HIV.
After sometime some people said that she does not have it. I don't know about that. Maybe they were justifying their risk with her.
Also, it seems now she has an apartment rather than walking.
Out Of Towner2
04-06-11, 07:42
I would NOT recommend seeing her. Unless I am thinking about wrong Sara (correct me if I am wrong Sharky and Out of Towner) she used to be SW. Then she got arrested few times and local newspaper reported that she has HIV.
After sometime some people said that she does not have it. I don't know about that. Maybe they were justifying their risk with her.
Also, it seems now she has an apartment rather than walking. We maybe speaking of the same Sara.
First, do you believe that everything you see or hear in the media is completely true. Do you know ANYONE that is HIV positive? Do you know ANYONE that knows someone that is HIV positive? Did you know a person can carry the HIV virus for up to 10 years before they test positive (I am pretty sure of that statement)? And if your old lady is doing the guy down the street you just might have a problem with this issue too. I do not know whether she is possitive or not. Nor do I know whether the last BP girl or AMP lady is. Oh, and yes I have been know to cruse the stroll.
There are risks out there, in life and hobbies. We measure those risks and make choices.
My hope is there are enough of us that will keep her interests and in her incall and off of BP or CL or the streets so she will gladly continue to service our needs and wants.
And happy hunting to all that choose to do so.
PS I am in no way suggesting there is no such thing as HIV or AIDS. It just seems to me there is a much bigger media reporting of it than there is a hugh and growing issue, as it would seem, they would like for us to think. It seems to be a little like the people that sit out there and "flag the posts" on CL, etc.
Not sure where you got 12 month. Average "window time" (the time it takes from infection date to time when it can be detected by HIV test) is 25 days. The usual maximum time is 2 months.
The scary part is there used to be really good contributing member "RobTheGreat". He posted quite a few reports overall. Then when news about Sara's potential HIV came out he said that he was scared and will take HIV test just to be safe. (He posted several times his reports about her and saw her about 6-7 times I think) Afterwards he stopped posting altogether. Which makes me think he either got heart attack when he saw his test results or became depressed and decided never to come back to hobby and this site.
Sooo. That means you are right. Everyone needs to decide for themselves. I just wanted to give new person a heads up because he wasn't around this boards when this happened.
Dr Holiday
04-06-11, 14:03
Not sure where you got 12 month. Average "window time" (the time it takes from infection date to time when it can be detected by HIV test) is 25 days. The usual maximum time is 2 months.
The scary part is there used to be really good contributing member "RobTheGreat". He posted quite a few reports overall. Then when news about Sara's potential HIV came out he said that he was scared and will take HIV test just to be safe. (He posted several times his reports about her and saw her about 6-7 times I think) Afterwards he stopped posting altogether. Which makes me think he either got heart attack when he saw his test results or became depressed and decided never to come back to hobby and this site.
Sooo. That means you are right. Everyone needs to decide for themselves. I just wanted to give new person a heads up because he wasn't around this boards when this happened. More than one type of test. Antibody and PCR. Usually the antibody test is the one they run. Average time for this test to go positive is about 1-3 months. However, it can take over 6 months or up to a year (or more sometimes).
Antibody test can give false positives. Its design bias is deliberate to get as much sensitivity as possible. Then has to be followed by what is know as a Western blot to confirm.
PCR which isn't used as often can spot a positive in as few as a couple of days.
Recent transplant case was just all over the news. Donor was tested negative 30 days before transplant. Went out and did some stuff. Went positive and the recipient got HIV from the transplant.
Well fellow mongers, I have to say sara was next on my list this week. However after reading all the comments, I will have to pass. I was really excited to meet her and become a regular client. I really hate this, but I appreciate the info so keep up the good work my friends.
Ok everyone who is worried. The Sara I speak of. Is NOT. Repeat NOT HIV. She isn't at all. This one takes very good care of herself. And have seen countless medical exam reports and even spoke with her doctor.
I was told this by my Sara (not her real name).
The REAL Sara. IS HIV. She wanders around asking for lighters. And has been in Busted newspaper ALL the time.
Has short dark hair. And wears tshirts when its 10 degrees outside. Cause she is always hopped up on something.
So the info I have been giving on my Sara is good. Long auburn hair. Dark eyes. And lives in an apt in north knoxville. And is rarely out on the street period. She has family here and doesn't want to be seen out in that area.
Out Of Towner2
04-07-11, 08:50
We maybe speaking of the same Sara.
First, do you believe that everything you see or hear in the media is completely true. Do you know ANYONE that is HIV positive? Do you know ANYONE that knows someone that is HIV positive? Did you know a person can carry the HIV virus for up to 10 years before they test positive (I am pretty sure of that statement)? And if your old lady is doing the guy down the street you just might have a problem with this issue too. I do not know whether she is possitive or not. Nor do I know whether the last BP girl or AMP lady is. Oh, and yes I have been know to cruse the stroll.
There are risks out there, in life and hobbies. We measure those risks and make choices.
My hope is there are enough of us that will keep her interests and in her incall and off of BP or CL or the streets so she will gladly continue to service our needs and wants.
And happy hunting to all that choose to do so.
PS I am in no way suggesting there is no such thing as HIV or AIDS. It just seems to me there is a much bigger media reporting of it than there is a hugh and growing issue, as it would seem, they would like for us to think. It seems to be a little like the people that sit out there and "flag the posts" on CL, etc. I was not sure if these Saras were one in the same. Thank you for clearing that up.
I would like to connect a typo in my comments, the error is the years rather than MONTHS for the testing peroid.
It still surprising me how many people seem to have fear if there is information that states someone MIGHT be positive and the total lack of fear if there is NO information at all. Is this called deinal?
Member #6200
04-08-11, 13:24
I would NOT recommend seeing her. Unless I am thinking about wrong Sara (correct me if I am wrong Sharky and Out of Towner) she used to be SW. Then she got arrested few times and local newspaper reported that she has HIV.
After sometime some people said that she does not have it. I don't know about that. Maybe they were justifying their risk with her.
Also, it seems now she has an apartment rather than walking. What happened was the paper reported her as being charged with "aggravated prostitution" or something like that which supposedly means she was HIV+ at the time of arrest. Then the paper RETRACTED THE REPORT and said it was erroneous. Period.
Smoke 'them if you got 'them!
Dr Holiday
04-21-11, 08:02
See these great pics and lust after something really cute. Like the gorgeous blond advertising on BP."Coming to your town soon". God she's cute. I'd give $$$$$ for that. LOL.
Then you run Tineye and realize the pics can't be her. Probably some fat chick 20 years older than the stolen picture girl in the ad (if there is even really one attached to the ad) or worse LEO waiting behind the door.
Don't even have to google the phone number. Some sort of scam.
If you don't know, there is a neat right click add on for Firefox. Makes it really easy to run Tineye and check out pics.
Works really great.
If you're referring to Kelly, I think in this case the Tineye hits indicate that she's for real, although the pics are 2 1/2 years old.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/this-city-girl-is-coming-to-your-town-23/3786629
See these great pics and lust after something really cute. Like the gorgeous blond advertising on BP."Coming to your town soon". God she's cute. I'd give $$$$$ for that. LOL.
Then you run Tineye and realize the pics can't be her. Probably some fat chick 20 years older than the stolen picture girl in the ad (if there is even really one attached to the ad) or worse LEO waiting behind the door.
If you're referring to Kelly, I think in this case the Tineye hits indicate that she's for real, although the pics are 2 1/2 years old.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/this-city-girl-is-coming-to-your-town-23/3786629
This one is definitely TGTBT based on Tineye and another site:
http://savannah.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-every-mans-blonde-fantasy-whats-yours-new-22/7981544
If you're referring to Kelly, I think in this case the Tineye hits indicate that she's for real, although the pics are 2 1/2 years old.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/this-city-girl-is-coming-to-your-town-23/3786629
Something is not natural here; Look at the angle of her head in the picture from the side. This looks like an obvious photo shop project to me. Try to turn your head like her with your torso straight. It hurts like hell and what happened to her neck?
Dr Holiday
04-22-11, 08:28
If you're referring to Kelly, I think in this case the Tineye hits indicate that she's for real, although the pics are 2 1/2 years old.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/this-city-girl-is-coming-to-your-town-23/3786629Pics are in a Russian site and another on line gallery.
Says to good to be true to me.
Something is not natural here; Look at the angle of her head in the picture from the side. This looks like an obvious photo shop project to me. Try to turn your head like her with your torso straight. It hurts like hell and what happened to her neck?Maybe she's particularly flexible. LOL
This one is definitely TGTBT based on Tineye and another site:
http://savannah.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-every-mans-blonde-fantasy-whats-yours-new-22/7981544
Yeah, I checked "Nicole" out a while ago when she came through the Carolinas. The Tineye hits weren't conclusive, but the TeeEeeRrr review sure was. Poor guy.
In the case of Kelly, Tineye leads to a Yuwie page from 2008 of a hot young party girl not far from Charlotte. Other pics on there, obviously of the same girl, are impromptu shots typical of that kind of page. And Kelly's Erotic review is consistent, although the reviewer's credibility isn't very solid. It may turn out that she's some kind of ripoff, but not because of what Tineye reveals.
Dr Holiday
04-22-11, 12:06
Yeah, I checked "Nicole" out a while ago when she came through the Carolinas. The Tineye hits weren't conclusive, but the TeeEeeRrr review sure was. Poor guy.
In the case of Kelly, Tineye leads to a Yuwie page from 2008 of a hot young party girl not far from Charlotte. Other pics on there, obviously of the same girl, are impromptu shots typical of that kind of page. And Kelly's Erotic review is consistent, although the reviewer's credibility isn't very solid. It may turn out that she's some kind of ripoff, but not because of what Tineye reveals. Found the review on her. Lets see. Not her pics (as tineye results suggested). Fatter, older, stretch marks and smelled really bad. Oh, yeah he said bad lay too. LOL
Buyer beware I would guess.
Found the review on her. Lets see. Not her pics (as tineye results suggested). Fatter, older, stretch marks and smelled really bad. Oh, yeah he said bad lay too. LOL
Buyer beware I would guess. Yeah, like Skwerl said and I agreed, Nicole is def one to avoid.
BTW, I think it's safe to assume that Tineye is virtually always right about whether a pic is present on pages it happens to have indexed. With regard to authenticity, it's no more right or wrong than any tool. Buyer beware indeed.
(Huhuh,"tool")
Pics are in a Russian site and another on line gallery.
Says to good to be true to me. Are we using 2 different Tineye? When I run pictures of KELLY. Nothing comes up on tineye. But as Nick have said it is very strange that her head is turned towards camera so unnaturally.
Also, some of you are obviously confusing Kelly and Nicole.
Summary:
Kelly- No tineye hits. One review on website that charges $ in order to see it. Curt828 said reviewer didn't look credible.
Nicole- Several TinEye hits. 1 review saying that she is using fake pics and in reality she is fat. Avoid.
PS. Has anyone contacted Kelly? She writes in her ad that she does not see black guys. When I texted her for info she asked "Name, age, nationality, city". I replied to her text and then she never texted me back. (I am not black by the way)
Something is not natural here; Look at the angle of her head in the picture from the side. This looks like an obvious photo shop project to me. Try to turn your head like her with your torso straight. It hurts like hell and what happened to her neck?Possibly, but I'm not sure. I can't turn my neck quite like that but then again I'm way past my twenties! LOL! Surely one of you pioneers will take this one for the team! LOL! I've got a hunch she's legit!
Seen her the other day and it was amazing I guess the picture are.
Her but the hair is platium yes she is a little curvy but I had the
Best time she was polite and treated me like a king
So I guess I could say I would repeat I left with a big smile
I also seen summer she has a 347 summer I called twice first time no answer, but then she picked up and I had the best time I ever had and yes, its her so you know what I left with a smile I never had this much fun in knoxville before.
Dr Holiday
04-23-11, 08:27
Are we using 2 different Tineye? When I run pictures of KELLY. Nothing comes up on tineye. But as Nick have said it is very strange that her head is turned towards camera so unnaturally.
Also, some of you are obviously confusing Kelly and Nicole.
Summary:
Kelly- No tineye hits. One review on website that charges $ in order to see it. Curt828 said reviewer didn't look credible.
Nicole- Several TinEye hits. 1 review saying that she is using fake pics and in reality she is fat. Avoid.
PS. Has anyone contacted Kelly? She writes in her ad that she does not see black guys. When I texted her for info she asked "Name, age, nationality, city". I replied to her text and then she never texted me back. (I am not black by the way)In one place the pics go with a Savanna, in one ad Nicole, and Kelley here. Couple of other ads with different names attached to those same pics if you look hard enough. Not unusual for same provider to change names in different places or this is a service.
Phone number search will also confirm those pics being used in different places.
Either way, that alone makes me wary on whats waiting behind the door. Not me to TOFTT on this one. I suspect the review with old and smelly might be right. LOL.
Whoever is brave. Let us know.
Are we using 2 different Tineye? When I run pictures of KELLY. Nothing comes up on tineye. But as Nick have said it is very strange that her head is turned towards camera so unnaturally.
Also, some of you are obviously confusing Kelly and Nicole.
Summary:
Kelly- No tineye hits. One review on website that charges $ in order to see it. Curt828 said reviewer didn't look credible.
Nicole- Several TinEye hits. 1 review saying that she is using fake pics and in reality she is fat. Avoid.
PS. Has anyone contacted Kelly? She writes in her ad that she does not see black guys. When I texted her for info she asked "Name, age, nationality, city". I replied to her text and then she never texted me back. (I am not black by the way) Maybe you typed "black".
Hummer Bird
04-23-11, 23:01
I also seen summer she has a 347 summer I called twice first time no answer, but then she picked up and I had the best time I ever had and yes, its her so you know what I left with a smile I never had this much fun in knoxville before.Same chick is now in Phoenix! Uh huh! Lame lame lame.
Dr Holiday
04-24-11, 14:56
Same chick is now in Phoenix! Uh huh! Lame lame lame.And a number of obviously fake reviews in various places.
Member #4198
04-24-11, 18:20
Same chick is now in Phoenix! Uh huh! Lame lame lame.She must be quite the traveler as she's also shown up in Birmingham and Atlanta in the past week.
She must be quite the traveler as she's also shown up in Birmingham and Atlanta in the past week.And Detroit may be a switch.
There is an older lady in West Knox who provides massage service in her home. I would be interested in a discreet comparing of notes with anyone else who has visited her. PM me if you know who I'm talking about.
Best experience I've had in K-town for less than premium rate. Met "Kasey" in WH area who says she is "Destiny" on BP, but I can't find a match. She didn't seem real certain of her BP name / details. Tiny spinner and brunette, normally neither of those are my type but this girl is hot as hell. Smooooooth flawless skin, belly ring, kind of squinty eyes for a WSW, not oriental but that cute smiling look. She was chatty and sober, took her for a bite after the 1/2&1/2 date. Young. 20 or so. One of those gals that is so hot that you think maybe she's not working. A fantasy in short shorts, a VOL shirt, tan skin and smells like summer. Buckle up, Mongers, it's going to be stormy tonight and if today was any sign, we're in for a good year out there. Back on topic, she has a fantastic ass and looks like she should be at a strip club, except for having such tiny titties.
Best experience I've had in K-town for less than premium rate. Met "Kasey" in WH area who says she is "Destiny" on BP, but I can't find a match. She didn't seem real certain of her BP name / details. Tiny spinner and brunette, normally neither of those are my type but this girl is hot as hell. Smooooooth flawless skin, belly ring, kind of squinty eyes for a WSW, not oriental but that cute smiling look. She was chatty and sober, took her for a bite after the 1/2&1/2 date. Young. 20 or so. One of those gals that is so hot that you think maybe she's not working. A fantasy in short shorts, a VOL shirt, tan skin and smells like summer. Buckle up, Mongers, it's going to be stormy tonight and if today was any sign, we're in for a good year out there. Back on topic, she has a fantastic ass and looks like she should be at a strip club, except for having such tiny titties.Here is Destiny on BP: http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/needing-some-attention-call-now-4-a-great-time-incall-or-out-24/3756032
Was it her? I wouldn't say that she is anywhere close to spinner judging by her pics in the ad.
Here is Destiny on BP:
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/needing-some-attention-call-now-4-a-great-time-incall-or-out-24/3756032
Was it her? I wouldn't say that she is anywhere close to spinner judging by her pics in the ad. Nope, not her.
Anybody know "Natasha?"
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-out-and-play-23/3721911
Dr Holiday
04-28-11, 07:22
Nope, not her.
Anybody know "Natasha?"
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-out-and-play-23/3721911With a wide variety of pictures in a lot of places that ain't here. Including one that's a male.
I wouldn't call that number even with a disposable phone.
But maybe the rest of you are braver than I am.
Fragilehero
04-28-11, 12:36
Anyone know if this is for real?
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cas/2350993545.html
She uses decent pics with no results on Tineye, only asking for $60, but won't talk on the phone, which makes me suspicious. Seems to be down on her luck. Has anyone else talked to her?
Di you guys pefer Barbiem or Akexis?
I've seen Alexis a few times, but never seen Barbie.
Thanks guys
Di you guys pefer Barbiem or Akexis?
I've seen Alexis a few times, but never seen Barbie.
Thanks guysTruth is, you can't go wrong with either, in my opinion.
The wonderful massage therapist massage therapist Anna told me this experience. I can think of no reason to doubt her.
She received a phone call from someone interested in seeing her and experiencing one of her dreamy massages. They engaged in several phone calls trying to find a time that was suitable for both their schedules. When they finally settled on a date / time, he told her that he normally doesn't pay for the first time he sees a therapist because he is so well known on the message boards. After seeing him, he would write a glowing report and that would be worth far more than her normal hourly rate.
Guys, this is wrong on several fronts.
(1) these boards are only useful to the extent we share true stories of actual dreams, not things we make up in order to curry favor with someone or to repay a debt. Give a truthful report or no report at all. It's not fair to mislead someone and cause him to waste his hard-earned money.
(2) I'm all for capitalism and everyone trying to get as good a deal as possible, but the best deal is when both sides receive fair trade. The sad thing is that many girls are desperate enough to fall for such an offer. Anna did not.
Notime Los
04-29-11, 11:49
Looking for some recommendations or opinions on any good dreams to be had while in the knoxville area.
Feel free to PM, and if you're ever traveling to Louisville I'll return the favor!
Thanks!
Dr Holiday
04-29-11, 17:26
The wonderful massage therapist massage therapist Anna told me this experience. I can think of no reason to doubt her.
She received a phone call from someone interested in seeing her and experiencing one of her dreamy massages. They engaged in several phone calls trying to find a time that was suitable for both their schedules. When they finally settled on a date / time, he told her that he normally doesn't pay for the first time he sees a therapist because he is so well known on the message boards. After seeing him, he would write a glowing report and that would be worth far more than her normal hourly rate.
Guys, this is wrong on several fronts.
(1) these boards are only useful to the extent we share true stories of actual dreams, not things we make up in order to curry favor with someone or to repay a debt. Give a truthful report or no report at all. It's not fair to mislead someone and cause him to waste his hard-earned money.
(2) I'm all for capitalism and everyone trying to get as good a deal as possible, but the best deal is when both sides receive fair trade. The sad thing is that many girls are desperate enough to fall for such an offer. Anna did not. Extortion attempt. She should out him. So we can talk trash at him.
The wonderful massage therapist massage therapist Anna told me this experience. I can think of no reason to doubt her.
She received a phone call from someone interested in seeing her and experiencing one of her dreamy massages. They engaged in several phone calls trying to find a time that was suitable for both their schedules. When they finally settled on a date / time, he told her that he normally doesn't pay for the first time he sees a therapist because he is so well known on the message boards. After seeing him, he would write a glowing report and that would be worth far more than her normal hourly rate.
Guys, this is wrong on several fronts.
(1) these boards are only useful to the extent we share true stories of actual dreams, not things we make up in order to curry favor with someone or to repay a debt. Give a truthful report or no report at all. It's not fair to mislead someone and cause him to waste his hard-earned money.
(2) I'm all for capitalism and everyone trying to get as good a deal as possible, but the best deal is when both sides receive fair trade. The sad thing is that many girls are desperate enough to fall for such an offer. Anna did not. I don't think what he did was all that bad. The only thing she had to do is simply refuse that offer, simple as that. But it is NOT cool for a monger to give false review of the provider just be / see he enjoyed service for free. (E. G service was horrible but was free and then person reports that dream was amazing)
PS. It wasn't me. I've never offered that to anybody
Escorts. Com is closing up on May 31. Hasn't been worth much since the raid, but back in the day it was a great resource. One could always find some low volume local talent there. And the review info was very helpful.
Sexhoundtn2
05-11-11, 09:33
Hey friends, I just got back off a four week vacation. Hell yes it was nice! Anyhow all my "numbers" have dried up. Why in the devil do these chicks not pay their phone bills? Does anyone have any fresh digits they could share?
Thanks,
Hound
Anyone have any tips? Our brothers from India usually got that market for hourly.
PM me if you know any. As I found an UTR. Who I must try. If good, I pass on!
Member #4579
05-19-11, 22:53
Truth is, you can't go wrong with either, in my opinion.Cause were the original best and Pink knows best!
Member #4178
05-20-11, 08:38
Newb on the board! Also a newb to the hobby. My 1st dream was about Alexis last Friday, and she treated me right. We spent a long time talking, and I really enjoyed getting to know her a bit. She's really sweet, not to mention VERY sexy! Then I dreamed about Barbie yesterday, and that was pretty freaking amazing. What a wonderful young lady. All in all, I couldn't have picked 2 better ladies to dream about than these two, and am trying to set up a followup with Alexis.
Member #5755
05-20-11, 10:08
Cause were the original best and Pink knows best!Asking which is better. Barbie or alexis. Is like asking,"do you want your million dollars in fifties or hundreds?"
Out Of Towner2
05-20-11, 14:42
I saw her again early last week. There has been some issue on here about her lack of teeth and the fear of her having AIDS because of a news report about a SWer of the same name. The news report is of a lady of the same name and there is nothing else to tell. Well, she has put our money to good use. She has a full set of very pretty teeth and she loves to smile. If you like them thin, cute, highly skilled and come off as a little on the sleazy side, this is your girl. She is very open and free flowing but you have to leave your shoe at the door. That is her thing, shoe off at the door. I also saw a new laptop laying on the floor. If she hits the internet and something like BP, what can be had for a "C" note will be one and a half or two. And her number has been good for at least 6 months.
Happy huntin'
I am going to try to hook up with Chloe tomorrow. I hate she is affiliated with Taylar but I rolled the dice with Tsuki (works same location as Chloe) and it worked out great. According to ad, Chloe is only here til Sunday so I wonder if it is a trial run on her part to see I Knoxville will be busy enough for her to come full time or not. Hopefully, she will be as advertised. I will let everyone know tomorrow though. She is on BP if anyone wonders what she looks like. Her ad title I simply Chloe.
Member #4178
05-28-11, 17:53
Looking forward to your report. I remember seeing her ad & thinking she was cute. For some reason, her ad is actually spelled "Chole" instead of "Chloe". Anyway, I thought about TOFTT with her also because she was sooo cute. But didn't realize she was here such a limited amt of time.
I am going to try to hook up with Chloe tomorrow. I hate she is affiliated with Taylar but I rolled the dice with Tsuki (works same location as Chloe) and it worked out great. According to ad, Chloe is only here til Sunday so I wonder if it is a trial run on her part to see I Knoxville will be busy enough for her to come full time or not. Hopefully, she will be as advertised. I will let everyone know tomorrow though. She is on BP if anyone wonders what she looks like. Her ad title I simply Chloe.
Member #4178
05-30-11, 13:26
I see on BP that Kaylee has an ad up today (can't figure out how to post the link here from my cell phone). Since she quit before I started mongering, I was wondering, is this the same Kaylee as before, that used to get really good reviews? If so, I definitely want to check her out!
So many escorts. So little time (and money!)
I see on BP that Kaylee has an ad up today (can't figure out how to post the link here from my cell phone). Since she quit before I started mongering, I was wondering, is this the same Kaylee as before, that used to get really good reviews? If so, I definitely want to check her out!
So many escorts. So little time (and money!) I don't recall Kaylee quiting. She has been posting regularly. You might be thinking of Cake. Who posted with Kaylee for a while. Cake quit a while back.
Member #4178
05-31-11, 18:52
I don't recall Kaylee quiting. She has been posting regularly. You might be thinking of Cake. Who posted with Kaylee for a while. Cake quit a while back.Never even saw one of Cake's ads. And maybe I just missed Kaylee's ads.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9051-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=1132977&viewfull=1#post1132977
On the downside, Britney (of the 407 area code phone with the Blonde Beach Bunny ads and the amazing ass) has apparently disappeared. Tried to call her # this afternoon & got the dreaded Verizon "this number has been changed or is no longer in service" recording. I didn't get a chance to dream of her, but had done some research. Face was passable (although not classically beautiful or cute) , but all the pics I saw of her body were pretty amazing. Great ass, nice overall build, etc. Tried looking on BP for Britney in all her old familiar haunts (Greenville, Boston, Jersey, Orlando, Nashville, Birmingham, Maine, etc). No joy. Wish I'd had the chance to take that ride!
Thinking about TOFTT with Erica: http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-spend-time-with-erica-20/3886986. Don't know why, but this girl really appeals to me. The problem is, in my dream, her donation is $.50 for 1/2, $$. For 1 hr. For an unknown. NO reviews out there. Hmmm. May have to dwell on this a bit longer.
Posted a new (of course great) report on a Barbie dream on the BP reviews thread. Sounds like Barbie's working to get her sister up here, and if it happens, it promises to be a fun time! She said she'd keep us posted.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/so-sweet-youll-wanna-eat-18/3899898
Found her on BP. Again, normally not my "type" but so worth making an exception.
Best experience I've had in K-town for less than premium rate. Met "Kasey" in WH area who says she is "Destiny" on BP, but I can't find a match. She didn't seem real certain of her BP name / details. Tiny spinner and brunette, normally neither of those are my type but this girl is hot as hell. Smooooooth flawless skin, belly ring, kind of squinty eyes for a WSW, not oriental but that cute smiling look. She was chatty and sober, took her for a bite after the 1/2&1/2 date. Young. 20 or so. One of those gals that is so hot that you think maybe she's not working. A fantasy in short shorts, a VOL shirt, tan skin and smells like summer. Buckle up, Mongers, it's going to be stormy tonight and if today was any sign, we're in for a good year out there. Back on topic, she has a fantastic ass and looks like she should be at a strip club, except for having such tiny titties.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/so-sweet-youll-wanna-eat-18/3899898
Found her on BP. Again, normally not my "type" but so worth making an exception.She is a WH girl. And a real keeper. I haven't seen her in the heights for along time, and now I see why. Tkae good care of her and she will keep you happy. This one is a keeper.
SweetNaomi
06-02-11, 02:01
I am going to be stopping in Knoxville on Monday for the night. I have never been to Knoxville before so don't know anything about the area.
Can someone suggest a mid priced hotel ($50-70) that is close to 75 N. I am driving to Ohio and don't want to be driving all over town trying to get to a hotel that I didn't know was way out of my way.
I will advertise for the area in the escort postings. I am only looking to see one or two gentlemen so hopefully LE won't even notice me regardless of where I stay the night.
I have arrived gentlemen, and as soon as I cool down a little bit in my hotel room I will be off. Numerous reports to follow as I have to sample so many in this town.
Jusy wanted to throw this out there.
I have had adds on CL, and on usasg. It seems like dreamers on CL are rude, crude, and well. Not nice in general. Not all are this way but most in My experience.
Anyway, every person I have had the pleasure to dream with from usasg have been amazing. I mean it! You guys are really great and know how to treat a lady from start to end. I want to Thank You all for being respectfull, and understanding that we are people just like you.
Xoxoxoxo.
Anna
Member #6355
06-13-11, 08:30
Jusy wanted to throw this out there.
I have had adds on CL, and on usasg. It seems like dreamers on CL are rude, crude, and well. Not nice in general. Not all are this way but most in My experience.
Anyway, every person I have had the pleasure to dream with from usasg have been amazing. I mean it! You guys are really great and know how to treat a lady from start to end. I want to Thank You all for being respectfull, and understanding that we are people just like you.
Xoxoxoxo.
AnnaWhat sets Anna apart, for me anyway, is her understanding of the mutual give-and-take nature of this particular sort of dreaming. Not to take away from her physical beauty, but the brain, after all, is where dreams are born.
What sets Anna apart, for me anyway, is her understanding of the mutual give-and-take nature of this particular sort of dreaming. Not to take away from her physical beauty, but the brain, after all, is where dreams are born.Got any info on Anna? Ya got my attention
Member #4178
06-14-11, 21:53
So. I signed up for ECCIE this afternoon, and within an hour, rcvd a PM on ECCIE from someone named "privatequeen" wanting to know if, since we were in the same area, I was wanting some companionship tonight. $$.50 / hr and $$$$/2 hrs. Referenced her website:
http://noordinarywoman.escort-site.com/photos.phtml
Apparently her name is "Kelly V." (all I've found so far). She looks pretty spectacular in the pics, but wants me to contact her on Yahoo messenger. After I PM'd her back on ECCIE wanting to know if she had any reviews anywhere beside her site (and she didn't answer). So I did. She seemed willing to chat, but when I brought up the reviews question again, she suddenly had a "regular client" that contacted her, and once again didn't answer.
She's freaking hot, but I think I'm smelling something fishy.
Anyone have any experience with this vixen?
Had the same experience today. Chatted for a little while. Gave info like 34c-24-34, 5-4, 115, and black eyes. Black eyes? Fishy? Who has black eyes? Asked for reviews and very soon said a regular had shown up and had to to go. Also said staying at a place downtown.
So. I signed up for ECCIE this afternoon, and within an hour, rcvd a PM on ECCIE from someone named "privatequeen" wanting to know if, since we were in the same area, I was wanting some companionship tonight. $$.50 / hr and $$$$/2 hrs. Referenced her website:
http://noordinarywoman.escort-site.com/photos.phtml
Apparently her name is "Kelly V." (all I've found so far). She looks pretty spectacular in the pics, but wants me to contact her on Yahoo messenger. After I PM'd her back on ECCIE wanting to know if she had any reviews anywhere beside her site (and she didn't answer). So I did. She seemed willing to chat, but when I brought up the reviews question again, she suddenly had a "regular client" that contacted her, and once again didn't answer.
She's freaking hot, but I think I'm smelling something fishy.
Anyone have any experience with this vixen?
Member #4178
06-16-11, 18:15
Black eyes? Fishy? Who has black eyes? Asked for reviews and very soon said a regular had shown up and had to to go. Also said staying at a place downtown.Maybe her pimp smacked her a couple times? Not thinking that black eyes aren't a good selling feature?
Had another contact me today from the same site. Same M. O. (except she says we're in the same area, when her profile says Texas, and when I questioned that, she said Farragut, even though profile remains Tx with 1 whole post). "contact me on Yahoo Messenger". I'm thinking either scams or LE trolling. Making me almost immediately regret signing up for that other site.
Had the same experience today. Chatted for a little while. Gave info like 34c-24-34, 5-4, 115, and black eyes. Black eyes? Fishy? Who has black eyes? Asked for reviews and very soon said a regular had shown up and had to to go. Also said staying at a place downtown.Why do ya'll even bother with this non-sense?
Guess I am always looking for something new. But I am cautious about these kinds of ads.
Why do ya'll even bother with this non-sense?
Why do ya'll even bother with this non-sense?Newbs maybe? Her pics look like they were stolen from somebodys facebook. Also, if provider ever asks you to contact her on Yahoo, AIM and BS like that then it's 100% fake crap. Don't bother with those ads guys
Member #4178
06-17-11, 22:18
Why do ya'll even bother with this non-sense?See Barn0318's answer below. I didn't realize signing up at that sight was going to lead to this kinda crap. Thought it'd be more like USASG or another site. Obviously I was wrong. I'm cancelling my profile on that site.
Guess I am always looking for something new. But I am cautious about these kinds of ads.Exactly.
Newbs maybe? Her pics look like they were stolen from somebodys facebook. Also, if provider ever asks you to contact her on Yahoo, AIM and BS like that then it's 100% fake crap. Don't bother with those ads guysYup (at least I'm a newb. Just about 1 month and 2 grand in {ouch! }. Going to have to slow down on that spending. This is an addictive hobby!). Figured out the yahoo thing right quick.
I'm not sure if this should go with a warning or a rebuke that if you actually carry two to four thousand dollars into a meeting witth an escort then you deserve what you get! Still. I'm curious who this girl is. Any guesses?
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/173439/2/Two-face-charges-after-victim-allegedly-robbed-by-man-impersonating-officer
Look on the Knox County Sherriff's Jail website to see Amanda and Jackie Ray. The escort robbers from the Hamilton Inn:
http://www.knoxsheriff.org/24hrlist/index.php
Anyone seen her before?
Also...notice their home address! It's the same as the Hamilton Inn...which means they robbed the guy in their place of residence! That's why it was so easy to catch them. No dash and run here...they expected to rob this guy and for him to just walk away! (of course, I'm sure they didn't expect him to have two to four thousand dollars on him).
Dumb and Dumber...
Member #4178
06-18-11, 09:08
Look on the Knox County Sherriff's Jail website to see Amanda and Jackie Ray. The escort robbers from the Hamilton Inn:
http://www.knoxsheriff.org/24hrlist/index.php
Anyone seen her before?If you search on Facebook for Amanda Ray, there's one in Knoxville that looks a lot like the mug shot, and looks kinda familiar to me. Like a provider I've seen, but I'm not going to name any names, because I'm not sure. But I am going to avoid the one I'm thinking about. At least for a while.
Dr Holiday
06-18-11, 10:00
I'm not sure if this should go with a warning or a rebuke that if you actually carry two to four thousand dollars into a meeting witth an escort then you deserve what you get! Still. I'm curious who this girl is. Any guesses?
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/173439/2/Two-face-charges-after-victim-allegedly-robbed-by-man-impersonating-officerKnow of two others that the bang on door thing did work on. They did walk away with wallets gone.
That one carries a wallet in to see a provider is crazy. Not to mention a lot of cash. Not intending to spend it. Don't take it in.
I got a better question, I wonder what escort service send him there?
Member #4178
06-18-11, 12:06
Look on the Knox County Sherriff's Jail website to see Amanda and Jackie Ray. The escort robbers from the Hamilton Inn:
http://www.knoxsheriff.org/24hrlist/index.php
Anyone seen her before?
Also. Notice their home address! It's the same as the Hamilton Inn. Which means they robbed the guy in their place of residence! That's why it was so easy to catch them. No dash and run here. They expected to rob this guy and for him to just walk away! (of course, I'm sure they didn't expect him to have two to four thousand dollars on him).
Dumb and Dumber.
I'm not sure if this should go with a warning or a rebuke that if you actually carry two to four thousand dollars into a meeting witth an escort then you deserve what you get! Still. I'm curious who this girl is. Any guesses?
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/173439/2/Two-face-charges-after-victim-allegedly-robbed-by-man-impersonating-officerI suspect there are a number of members who know who this (formerly trusted) provider is, and it makes me very sad (Met her. Liked her). Without naming names, I guess what I would say is, at the very least, I wouldn't go anywhere near the Hamilton Inn Extended Stay downtown, especially Apts 12 or 214 (the 2 listed as addresses for the 2 suspects on the Sherriff's website). For a variety of reasons: 1. You might get robbed! And 2. I'll bet KPD is keeping an eagle eye on those 2 apartments now.
Wow. That's too bad.
If you search on Facebook for Amanda Ray, there's one in Knoxville that looks a lot like the mug shot, and looks kinda familiar to me. Like a provider I've seen, but I'm not going to name any names, because I'm not sure. But I am going to avoid the one I'm thinking about. At least for a while.
Member #4178
06-18-11, 12:38
Wow. That's too bad.Unfortunately, the room number confirmed it. Very sad day for the Knoxville mongering community. Wonder if the hubby pushed her into it?
Member #4178
06-18-11, 13:48
That one carries a wallet in to see a provider is crazy. Not to mention a lot of cash. Not intending to spend it. Don't take it in.I have an otherwise empty wallet that I take with me just to have a place to stash about $20-$50 tip / funds for extras (in addition to her donation, that I carry separately in an envelope). Otherwise. Limited funds in the regular wallet, that stays in the car with everything but the car key and my mongering phone.
WheelerJim
06-18-11, 14:45
I used to see her and thats her husband loosers now.
Wow again. I didn't need to go to Facebook to recognize her. I hope nobody else (cough) gets dragged into it.
Dang. Pretty crazy story. Monger was super dumb for taking more than dreaming amount of cash. I don't think I've ever had more than 100$ above what I was planning to spend. (now I take only amount I plan to spend)
In the meantime here is bonus pic with her old partner (click to make it bigger)
Dang. Pretty crazy story. Monger was super dumb for taking more than dreaming amount of cash. I don't think I've ever had more than 100$ above what I was planning to spend. (now I take only amount I plan to spend)
In the meantime here is bonus pic with her old partner (click to make it bigger) Ok. Is that who I think it is? Or a striking resemblance? To Bella?
And its a damn shame too.
Ok. Is that who I think it is? Or a striking resemblance? To Bella?
Member #4178
06-18-11, 21:24
And its a damn shame too.Yep. Makes me very sad. I liked that girl. Seemed very sweet and I would have liked to dream of her again.
And now I'm wondering. Since she advertises as have two-girl shows with Harley. Is anyone concerned about seeing Harley now? Does anyone know her well enough to get her impression of this mess?
And now I'm wondering. Since she advertises as have two-girl shows with Harley. Is anyone concerned about seeing Harley now? Does anyone know her well enough to get her impression of this mess?Bella hasn't worked with Harley in several weeks. She has worked with other very well known providers but this has nothing to do with anybody other than Bella and her husband. I have communicated with other providers today and they are as surprised and disappointed as we are.
Bella is a good girl but she made a terrible mistake in judgment. I'm afraid its going to cost her dearly and the demons that tempted her to do this will now be an even greater problem for her since she's ruined her once solid reputation in the hobby.
Dr Holiday
06-19-11, 01:35
Bella hasn't worked with Harley in several weeks. She has worked with other very well known providers but this has nothing to do with anybody other than Bella and her husband. I have communicated with other providers today and they are as surprised and disappointed as we are.
Bella is a good girl but she made a terrible mistake in judgment. I'm afraid its going to cost her dearly and the demons that tempted her to do this will now be an even greater problem for her since she's ruined her once solid reputation in the hobby.That amount of cash. What we talking 3-5?
I just want to say I do promise from here on out I will have no contact with bella / Amanda ray at all under any circumstance! This is all so shocking to me I had not heard from her in quite some time. And hope I never receive a phone call ever again. My best wishes go out to the dreamer who was taken advantage of please be safe out dreaming as I plan on doing myself. Thanks to those who have informed me as well as the boards you guys are wonderful to this dreamarific hobby! Xoxoxo. BARBIE.
Dang. Pretty crazy story. Monger was super dumb for taking more than dreaming amount of cash. I don't think I've ever had more than 100$ above what I was planning to spend. (now I take only amount I plan to spend)
In the meantime here is bonus pic with her old partner (click to make it bigger)
Bella hasn't worked with Harley in several weeks. She has worked with other very well known providers but this has nothing to do with anybody other than Bella and her husband. I have communicated with other providers today and they are as surprised and disappointed as we are.
Bella is a good girl but she made a terrible mistake in judgment. I'm afraid its going to cost her dearly and the demons that tempted her to do this will now be an even greater problem for her since she's ruined her once solid reputation in the hobby. Thanks for the info PinkFloyd. Glad to know that Harley and other providers are as upset over this as we are. I think the fact that this is a "Known" and previously respected povider is even more concerning. Why would she risk her future income on this stupid and dangerous scam? Her once good name is now ruined.
This is a reminder that although we might develop an "intimate" relationship with these women for the hour or so that we spend with them, and after some repeat visits we might become what we consider "friends," we really don't know them at all. We don't know what other influences or issues might affect their decisions. We may have our list of "trusted" providers. And we might be on their "trusted" list of mongers. But we should never forget that we are not the only person they see. The next knock on their door could be a policeman, rapist, thief. Who knows? That's the danger of what they do. And they live with that every single day. That can make you paranoid. Make you do something crazy.
Plus, we might be their "boyfriend" for an hour, but if they have a husband or boyfriend in their life. He's basically their pimp. He could be there mainly to provide protection, and that's a good thing, or he could be pushing her to do things she's not comfortable with. She's his moneymaker. The more she makes, the more he wants. But he might also be torn by jealousy (how would you like it if your wife or girlfriend was sucking and fucking total strangers all day long?). All these emotions (for both of them) can make for some really bad choices. Add drugs to the mix. And you've got a ticking timebomb.
Sorry for the rambling thoughts here. But this little episode gave me a lot to think about.
Look on the Knox County Sherriff's Jail website to see Amanda and Jackie Ray. The escort robbers from the Hamilton Inn:
http://www.knoxsheriff.org/24hrlist/index.php
Anyone seen her before?
Also. Notice their home address! It's the same as the Hamilton Inn. Which means they robbed the guy in their place of residence! That's why it was so easy to catch them. No dash and run here. They expected to rob this guy and for him to just walk away! (of course, I'm sure they didn't expect him to have two to four thousand dollars on him).
Dumb and Dumber.I think there is more to this story than we are seeing. There is just something that seems fishy about it to me. We should all be wary whenever we see a provider but let's not jump to conclusions just yet either. In America we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. We don't know anything about the accuser just what was reported to the police. I don't want for it to sound like I'm sticking up for Bella, I just think there may be more to it. I probably won't be going back to see Bella just out of caution which is a shame if she is innocent, but I'm not willing to pronounce her guilty.
She has one posted at a little past midnight. Maybe she gave up some info in interrogation and now they have a sting going. They'll probably get a few too.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bella-the-original-27/3704576
She has one posted at a little past midnight. Maybe she gave up some info in interrogation and now they have a sting going. They'll probably get a few too.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bella-the-original-27/3704576
Most girls use the automatically renewing ads on BP.
Member #4178
06-19-11, 18:04
I think there is more to this story than we are seeing. There is just something that seems fishy about it to me. We should all be wary whenever we see a provider but let's not jump to conclusions just yet either. In America we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. We don't know anything about the accuser just what was reported to the police. I don't want for it to sound like I'm sticking up for Bella, I just think there may be more to it. I probably won't be going back to see Bella just out of caution which is a shame if she is innocent, but I'm not willing to pronounce her guilty.In my discussions with a couple of other local providers, we've all felt the same way. There's more to this story. Unfortunately, we'll probably never find out what it is, and realistically, Bella's career locally as an escort is probably over (except for those that monger without checking for any reviews. And I don't think she'll be able to make the kind of money she needs to make with just those guys.) for quite a while. Probably a long while. Whether or not there is more to the story. In this case, due to the involvement of Uncle Leo and (alleged) robbery, no one in their right mind would go close to her.
She has one posted at a little past midnight. Maybe she gave up some info in interrogation and now they have a sting going. They'll probably get a few too.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bella-the-original-27/3704576If you check knoxsheriff. Org it shows their arrest but with no pics. If it walks like a duck. Just MHO. Bet you are right Shuman.
Dr Holiday
06-19-11, 18:41
I think there is more to this story than we are seeing. There is just something that seems fishy about it to me. We should all be wary whenever we see a provider but let's not jump to conclusions just yet either. In America we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. We don't know anything about the accuser just what was reported to the police. I don't want for it to sound like I'm sticking up for Bella, I just think there may be more to it. I probably won't be going back to see Bella just out of caution which is a shame if she is innocent, but I'm not willing to pronounce her guilty.Paper / TV would normally delight in posting the sinners name. Why not this time? Why was he not charged with soliciting prostitution? Who carries that much money?
Covering for somebody important? Catch the head of police or his honor the mayor? Some funny sort of sting operation set up by them?
Number of things just don't add up? But if they got her phone contact list. I wouldn't take any calls.
Last time they got one of the Asheville providers and got her contact list. Lots of funny calls came to the numbers. LEO trolling for mongers.
You get a call with some story. Needing many for lawyer. Expect uncle leo. If half true, to reduce charges only one way to do it.
One can also expect a crack down on activity for awhile too.
Be wary. Be very wary.
I think there is more to this story than we are seeing. There is just something that seems fishy about it to me. We should all be wary whenever we see a provider but let's not jump to conclusions just yet either. In America we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. We don't know anything about the accuser just what was reported to the police. I don't want for it to sound like I'm sticking up for Bella, I just think there may be more to it. I probably won't be going back to see Bella just out of caution which is a shame if she is innocent, but I'm not willing to pronounce her guilty.I agree with the basic sentiment of Occupant. We don't know and may never know the whole truth about this whole thing. Although we never really know everything that is going on in these girls lives, Bella was one that I am so surprised to be reading all of this about. Things don't look good for her based on what information we have but I really encourage everyone to keep an open mind until things unfold a bit more. I'd like to have the accuser step up and discuss this a little. If she really is guilty, lord help her because she has lost it all which is really a shame. If we find out she isn't guilty she is still in a world of hurt because she won't ever be able to go back to the way things were.
We all now have access to way more personal information on her than we ever should have. Don't do anything stupid with your new found knowledge of her personal life. She is, or was at least, someone many of us considered a friend. Innocent until proven guilty is a great way to think about things for now. All that being said, there is probably no way I am going back to ever see her again! Just be smart.
Member #4178
06-19-11, 19:11
And now I'm wondering. Since she advertises as have two-girl shows with Harley. Is anyone concerned about seeing Harley now? Does anyone know her well enough to get her impression of this mess?I'm certainly not concerned about Harley. Discussed this with her earlier today, and she is (understandably) upset. And wants nothing to do with Bella / Amanda in the future (feelings are similar to what Barbie voiced a little earlier in this thread). She's a sweetheart, and while I've only been fortunate enough to dream of her once (something I'm hoping to correct in the not-to-distant future) , she & I have "corresponded" several times, and I believe she's a safe bet.
WheelerJim
06-19-11, 21:25
Yes shuman they pay for in advance 3 times a week for each payment- you need to get out more dude.
Learn something new everyday.
Dr Holiday
06-20-11, 12:53
I agree with the basic sentiment of Occupant. We don't know and may never know the whole truth about this whole thing. Although we never really know everything that is going on in these girls lives, Bella was one that I am so surprised to be reading all of this about. Things don't look good for her based on what information we have but I really encourage everyone to keep an open mind until things unfold a bit more. I'd like to have the accuser step up and discuss this a little. If she really is guilty, lord help her because she has lost it all which is really a shame. If we find out she isn't guilty she is still in a world of hurt because she won't ever be able to go back to the way things were.
We all now have access to way more personal information on her than we ever should have. Don't do anything stupid with your new found knowledge of her personal life. She is, or was at least, someone many of us considered a friend. Innocent until proven guilty is a great way to think about things for now. All that being said, there is probably no way I am going back to ever see her again! Just be smart.Depending on who you are. As an observer only at close range. I'm surprised.
The provider seems has hung out in a local watering hole. Lots of prominent types inhabit the place. Lawyers, doctors, business types etc. They spotted the arrest of the provider. Which freaked out a number of them.
Lots of calls asking for a good defense lawyer just in case the fire storm gets down to them and they get identified as a customer. Since they are in her contact list.
Could be worse. I could be worrying.
Trust me we don't have to worry about harley my follow mongers, she is harmless as a little butterfly and loves life to much. I will see her soon.
Depending on who you are. As an observer only at close range. I'm surprised.
The provider seems has hung out in a local watering hole. Lots of prominent types inhabit the place. Lawyers, doctors, business types etc. They spotted the arrest of the provider. Which freaked out a number of them.
Lots of calls asking for a good defense lawyer just in case the fire storm gets down to them and they get identified as a customer. Since they are in her contact list.
Could be worse. I could be worrying.I have watched enough Law and Orders to know that it would take much more evidence than being in a contact list to pursue charges against someone. Unless she kept some other kind of records that link information to a phone number everyone should be fine. That is if my TV law degree is worth anything! Always use a throw away phone that was purchased with cash. Words to live by.
Dr Holiday
06-21-11, 02:39
I have watched enough Law and Orders to know that it would take much more evidence than being in a contact list to pursue charges against someone. Unless she kept some other kind of records that link information to a phone number everyone should be fine. That is if my TV law degree is worth anything! Always use a throw away phone that was purchased with cash. Words to live by.Wrong a bit. Filing charges is nothing. Takes nothing. Conviction lots more. However, what the big boys are worrying about is not conviction. Just being charged. Losing have their stuff to wife, losing job. Losing face. They know they can't be convicted.
If you think LEO won't file bogus charges that can't be sustained. Just to harass. Think again.
They do it will full knowledge that they charge won't stick but you will be humiliated in the paper, cost you $5-10 grand in legal expenses. Wife leaves, lose job etc.
Their own form of being judge, jury and executioner.
I'm not a lawyer (and I don't play one on TV) , but I can't see how a phone number and name in a contact list could mean anything. Even phone records of calls back and forth prove nothing. (besides, does anyone give their real name?) If the police start charging men for being on a contact list, or even for swapping phone calls, they open themselves up for a lot of "false arrest" claims and potential lawsuits for defamation of character and slander.
Unless there is proof of a crime or someone is caught in the act, they don't have a case. Now, like Doc said, that might not stop them from making charges, but I think it would be foolish and with some considerable risk on their part. A phone number in a contact list is not even circumstantial evidence when there is no other evidence of a crime.
UNLESS, of course, the lady in question cuts some kind of deal. If she testifies that those calls were preludes to the act and gives times and places for those acts, then there might be a problem. We already know that she will do desperate things at certain times. So for a reduced sentence, she might name names and give all the nasty details. In that case, it's her word against the monger, and a good lawyer should be able to discredit her pretty well and win the case. But like Doc said, the damage will be done.
I'm not a lawyer (and I don't play one on TV) , but I can't see how a phone number and name in a contact list could mean anything. Even phone records of calls back and forth prove nothing. (besides, does anyone give their real name?) If the police start charging men for being on a contact list, or even for swapping phone calls, they open themselves up for a lot of "false arrest" claims and potential lawsuits for defamation of character and slander.
Unless there is proof of a crime or someone is caught in the act, they don't have a case. Now, like Doc said, that might not stop them from making charges, but I think it would be foolish and with some considerable risk on their part. A phone number in a contact list is not even circumstantial evidence when there is no other evidence of a crime.
UNLESS, of course, the lady in question cuts some kind of deal. If she testifies that those calls were preludes to the act and gives times and places for those acts, then there might be a problem. We already know that she will do desperate things at certain times. So for a reduced sentence, she might name names and give all the nasty details. In that case, it's her word against the monger, and a good lawyer should be able to discredit her pretty well and win the case. But like Doc said, the damage will be done. I am sick about Bella, She was a sweet heart. I don't think she has been turned into a undercover sex spy.
No worries Guy's, If you are not caught in the act of paying her off you have no crime. Sex is not illegal. The state does not care if you fuck or not. Just don't get caught handing over money or recorded talking about money. If you are recorded asking, 'How much for sex' then the state will fuck you real good, no charge. A smart monger never uses your real name either. Five minutes on the net will get her your address, or work site. What would you do if a crazy provider showed up at work or at your home? I has, happened in the past to a friend of mine.
A smart monger will use an unregistered burner phone, like you can get Pilot, or Wal-Mart. If in doubt about the bad uncle coming back on you, just toss the phone. Text messages are probably not a good idea either. Never leave a paper trail.
I do think in Georgia, it's a crime to get a blow job from your wife. Go figure.
It is probably a good idea to review the 22 rule for mongering again.
Dr Holiday
06-21-11, 12:53
I am sick about Bella, She was a sweet heart. I don't think she has been turned into a undercover sex spy.
No worries Guy's, If you are not caught in the act of paying her off you have no crime. Sex is not illegal. The state does not care if you fuck or not. Just don't get caught handing over money or recorded talking about money. If you are recorded asking, 'How much for sex' then the state will fuck you real good, no charge. A smart monger never uses your real name either. Five minutes on the net will get her your address, or work site. What would you do if a crazy provider showed up at work or at your home? I has, happened in the past to a friend of mine.
A smart monger will use an unregistered burner phone, like you can get Pilot, or Wal-Mart. If in doubt about the bad uncle coming back on you, just toss the phone. Text messages are probably not a good idea either. Never leave a paper trail.
I do think in Georgia, it's a crime to get a blow job from your wife. Go figure.
It is probably a good idea to review the 22 rule for mongering again.All good advice mongering advice.
Unfortunately. They didn't use a burner phone. She knows who they are so fake name isn't useful. (been in the watering hole with them). Not to mention when you are rich and prominent. Fake name is useless. A smart lawyer for her will give them up in a heart beat for a deal. Etc. Its the only way out of this.
They worry about being outed not a conviction. (2-3 I know are lawyers, couple of docs etc.).
My advice to them is they are going to be fine. Lay low. Don't take any strange calls. Admit to nothing. Don't even deny. Say absolutely nothing if questioned. . For sure don't interact with her again.
Anybody ever see or hear of this girl, Ann? Says she's from Asheville. Ad took me to her website (www.ann.escortfiles.com) , and pics look pretty damn good. Would be willing to give consideration if she has incall in Ktown. Any info would be appreciated.
Jack
Sad to find this out about Bella, but I'm keeping an open mind about her level of involvement. There are a couple of big differences between the WBIR and Knoxnews reports. WBIR makes it sound like they were definitely working together ("Both the woman and the male suspect ran from the scene"). Knoxnews is newer and sounds like maybe they were not. They were arrested in different locations, and there is no mention of Amanda running anywhere. Sounds like she stayed where she was and only the guy left.
That's not to say she wasn't involved, or that we shouldn't be extremely cautious with her either way. But unless there is more evidence than mentioned in the stories, I'd bet anything her robbery charge will get dropped or thrown out. As for the other two,"impersonating a professional" (massage therapist) is a joke. Imagine taking that in front of a jury. Solicitation would require the witness to give self-incriminating testimony. Possible, but not likely.
Here are the links to the two stories if you want to compare for yourself:
WBIR:
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/173439/2/Two-face-charges-after-victim-allegedly-robbed-by-man-impersonating-officer
Knoxnews:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jun/18/state-briefs-june-18/?print=1
Member #4178
06-21-11, 17:23
Saw a new massage therapist yesterday at the suggestion of WheelerJim. I'd never seen an ad for her, nor had I ever heard of her.
Consider PMing him and BEGGING for her number. Anna.
Thank you, sir.After seeing her ad in the Escort Classifieds (and reading a couple reviews like this one) , I contacted Anna, and subsequently had a WONDERFUL dream about her. I'll preface the rest of this by saying that Anna is not the typical girl (spinner type) that I dream about. She's got some meat on her bones. But she's strikingly pretty and she knows that she's damn sexy, and that shows in everything she does. I'm not going to go into great detail (she actually says she prefers not to be reviewed, but OK'd me reviewing her.) , except to say it was pretty freaking hot, she gives a great massage, and a good time was had by all involved!
GaltGuy's line about begging for her number. Well, it's accurate, but now that she's adverted on the escort page, you don't have to PM WheelerJim. She is a truly special woman who will take amazing care of you if you treat her with respect and take care of her.
Member #4178
06-21-11, 17:49
Sad to find this out about Bella, but I'm keeping an open mind about her level of involvement. There are a couple of big differences between the WBIR and Knoxnews reports. WBIR makes it sound like they were definitely working together ("Both the woman and the male suspect ran from the scene"). Knoxnews is newer and sounds like maybe they were not. They were arrested in different locations, and there is no mention of Amanda running anywhere. Sounds like she stayed where she was and only the guy left.
That's not to say she wasn't involved, or that we shouldn't be extremely cautious with her either way. But unless there is more evidence than mentioned in the stories, I'd bet anything her robbery charge will get dropped or thrown out. As for the other two,"impersonating a professional" (massage therapist) is a joke. Imagine taking that in front of a jury. Solicitation would require the witness to give self-incriminating testimony. Possible, but not likely.
Here are the links to the two stories if you want to compare for yourself:
WBIR:
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/173439/2/Two-face-charges-after-victim-allegedly-robbed-by-man-impersonating-officer
Knoxnews:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jun/18/state-briefs-june-18/?print=1Isn't that typical? The TV news is in a rush to get the story 1st, but the print news is usually more accurate?
Regardless of whether she stayed or not, it was her husband that impersonated the cop and robbed the guy. Pretty tough to separate her from that entirely.
Anybody kow about this girl? Has a cute face and decent rack. Not sure if she's BBW or not, can't tell from pics. Not really into BBW, but love a great rack. Here's her link:
http://www.playpages.com/profile.asp?u_id=38032
Let me know if you have seen her or know about her.
Anybody kow about this girl? Has a cute face and decent rack. Not sure if she's BBW or not, can't tell from pics. Not really into BBW, but love a great rack. Here's her link:
http://www.playpages.com/profile.asp?u_id=38032
Let me know if you have seen her or know about her. I've never seen her but she's been around for quite awhile. Used to advertise on the large canine site. There was a time when she offered a pregnant girl fetish service. I'm about 85 percent sure she's legit but I can't comment on the quality of her service. I think she is what I would characterize as a small BBW if that makes sense.
Dr Holiday
06-22-11, 13:29
Anybody kow about this girl? Has a cute face and decent rack. Not sure if she's BBW or not, can't tell from pics. Not really into BBW, but love a great rack. Here's her link:
http://www.playpages.com/profile.asp?u_id=38032
Let me know if you have seen her or know about her.didn't know she was still around. Did her when preggers. So not skinny minny then. LOL.
But since kid. Don't know how much weight she has now.
She has an angelic face. Very sweet demure type.
Nice girl.
Member #4178
06-22-11, 14:34
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beware-bella-robbed-client-arrested-see-news-story-worked-with-barbie-and-harley-beware-27/3968329
I know I'm not a senior member here, and am probably going to ruffle some feathers, but today someone posted the BP ad above.
OK. I can understand possibly putting up a BP ad saying beware of Bella, but adding the "Worked with Barbie and Harley" crap is pure BS. Given all the discussion that has gone on, more than likely, the person that posted this on BP is on this site, and should know better. Bottom line. Those of us who have been lucky enough to dream of Barbie and Harley know where they stand and that we are safe; if you've never met or dreamed of them, you need to sit down and STFU! These are 2 incredibly sweet girls that we are lucky enough to have in our area. They are both quite distressed by what's happened with Bella, and we should be supporting them, not torpedoing them!
Anybody kow about this girl? Has a cute face and decent rack. Not sure if she's BBW or not, can't tell from pics. Not really into BBW, but love a great rack. Here's her link:
http://www.playpages.com/profile.asp?u_id=38032
Let me know if you have seen her or know about her.Saw her a few years back (3? Maybe 4?) when she was pregnant. Very nice. Lotta fun. Can't comment on anything lately.
Member #4641
06-22-11, 17:34
Anybody kow about this girl? Has a cute face and decent rack. Not sure if she's BBW or not, can't tell from pics. Not really into BBW, but love a great rack. Here's her link:
http://www.playpages.com/profile.asp?u_id=38032
Let me know if you have seen her or know about her. I did see Angel back when she was pregnant. It was always a fantasy of mine, and had to fufill. Back then she had a room next to Coyote Joes. It has been several years, so YMMV, but I was satisfied.
Definitely not a spinner, but could suck a golf ball thru a garden hose! I repeated back then, but as I said, it was many many moons ago. If you give her a shot, let us know how it goes.
Isn't that typical? The TV news is in a rush to get the story 1st, but the print news is usually more accurate?
Regardless of whether she stayed or not, it was her husband that impersonated the cop and robbed the guy. Pretty tough to separate her from that entirely. Guys, don't bury your head in the sand because she was a "trusted" provider, like TPP said he was her hubby so she damn sure knew about it. There maybe more to it like either Pink or Doc said as in it may not have been a robbery but more of an attempted shakedown of a local power player and instead of it going smoothly like the Rays thought, dude had more pull than they realized and they ended up in a trick bag. Who knows? No doubt "Bella" or Amanda was up to no good and was all in on some kind of deceit.
I am as guilty of this as anyone but we all need to remember when it truly comes down to it no matter how cool our time is with them and how many times we have seen them they are not your friend nor are we theirs. My friends can call me at 3am and say hey I am in a jam can you drag your ass out of bed drive across town and help me and I will explain it when you get here but I cannot go into on the phone. I would be on my way no questions asked. Would I do that for a provider or would most of you more importantly would she do it for me? My answer is no and I would guess many would agree.
However, I did help a very popular, trusted and well reviewed provider just a couple of days ago. She called my net10 or ho phone and I was at the mall with my wife but since she was in a store I answered and at first I didn't recognize her voice because she was crying. Long story short she was wondering if I wanted to see her because it she needed to earn some money and it was normally one of my available days. Unfortunately, I was unavailable to see her but I told her I could hook her up with a c-note and she could make it up to me later. However, she would have to meet me at food court in mall. Of course, she was strapped for transportation so I called a fellow monger (and buddy) that also sees her on occasion and asked him if he could give her a ride that I was sure she would show her appreciation. Any way he is glad to help and he actually met me in the men's room in the food court. I pass him the cash and tell him to call me later and tell me the deal. Now, this isn't first time I have helped her and she has always kept her end of the bargain so that is no biggie but even though she never said why she needed the money I figured since she was sobbing she was in a real bind. My buddy and fellow monger calls me several hours later and I asked him first did she show him some appreciation and what was the deal with her. He says he did have a HE so that means she gave him hand job but she had him take her over to score some blues. She claims to mongers she doesn't do that because she used to tell me the same thing before I became a regular. She is pretty good currently at keeping this on the DL and it is no big deal to me and I suspect most of her clients know the truth but are like me. Hopefully, she will not be a repeat of Kelly. What bothers me about the incident was I put a lot of effort into trying to help her from arranging a ride to mall, loaning the money but most of all was the hide and seek I played with old lady at mall jeopardizing getting busted trying to get this gal some cash for her habit. I really only have myself to blame though because most of us that know better but decide doing a quick favor is no big deal then a couple hours and some bs later realize when is all said and done both parties are looking out for themselves.
Bella hasn't worked with Harley in several weeks. She has worked with other very well known providers but this has nothing to do with anybody other than Bella and her husband. I have communicated with other providers today and they are as surprised and disappointed as we are.
Bella is a good girl but she made a terrible mistake in judgment. I'm afraid its going to cost her dearly and the demons that tempted her to do this will now be an even greater problem for her since she's ruined her once solid reputation in the hobby.I was clueless about the whole ordeal had no suspicion that Bella would ever do anything close to what she's being accused of. But on my own note I'm very worried and disturbed about this for many personal reasons but let's just say you all kno about me being robbed at that same hotel bc bella wanted me to be closer for doubles. Let's just say 2+2=4 and I kno my math adds up better than I hoped it wuld but I hav no desire to see or work w her ever again. And deeply regret all the dreamers I referred to her bci wouldn't / couldn't see them. I'm truly sorry for that and my heart goes out to the poor guy it happened to. SAFE dreaming all! Hugs&kisses harley
KenLewis01
06-22-11, 21:44
I'm sure you all know about this girl (here's her mug shot).
http://knoxmugshots.com/mug/amanda-star-ray
I needed to post this, as too many people seem to trust these girls. Let's not kid around, this was armed robbery. Could have easily been murder. The same applies to Harley and Barbie that they worked with. These girls knew about this before hand. They WILL eventually railroad you. How do you guys go down on these girls? They all have herpes. That's a fact. One friend I know just got it, all over his lips from doing that. Another is in a living nightmare who is under extortion by a girl who threatens to tell his wife unless he pays her $1000 a month for LIFE, and has pictures, texts and recordings. I know no one wants to hear this, but its a fact. These girls are garbage. The first rule of "mongering". DO NOT do incalls. They have all the power. Eventually, you will be robbed. If not by a gun then when you are finished and use the restroom, or later on by extortion. Always remember, they are the complete trash. Use them, be safe. And nothing more. This is a dark business.
Be safe,
Ken.
Wrong a bit. Filing charges is nothing. Takes nothing. Conviction lots more. However, what the big boys are worrying about is not conviction. Just being charged. Losing have their stuff to wife, losing job. Losing face. They know they can't be convicted.
If you think LEO won't file bogus charges that can't be sustained. Just to harass. Think again.
They do it will full knowledge that they charge won't stick but you will be humiliated in the paper, cost you $5-10 grand in legal expenses. Wife leaves, lose job etc.
Their own form of being judge, jury and executioner.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beware-bella-robbed-client-arrested-see-news-story-worked-with-barbie-and-harley-beware-27/3968329
I know I'm not a senior member here, and am probably going to ruffle some feathers, but today someone posted the BP ad above.
OK. I can understand possibly putting up a BP ad saying beware of Bella, but adding the "Worked with Barbie and Harley" crap is pure BS. Given all the discussion that has gone on, more than likely, the person that posted this on BP is on this site, and should know better. Bottom line. Those of us who have been lucky enough to dream of Barbie and Harley know where they stand and that we are safe; if you've never met or dreamed of them, you need to sit down and STFU! These are 2 incredibly sweet girls that we are lucky enough to have in our area. They are both quite distressed by what's happened with Bella, and we should be supporting them, not torpedoing them! And I could tell you who but it wouldn't really serve any purpose. But let's just say you and me discussed her in some recent PMs.
Member #4178
06-22-11, 22:53
And I could tell you who but it wouldn't really serve any purpose. But let's just say you and me discussed her in some recent PMs.That's just sad. Of course, this shouldn't really hurt Barbie & Harley. I think they've both decided to only see their trusted mongers for the time being, and those of us lucky enough to benefit from that know they're OK. It's just REALLY annoying to see their names repeatedly dragged into this when they had NOTHING to do with it.
I'm just saying.
Dr Holiday
06-23-11, 02:31
I'm sure you all know about this girl (here's her mug shot).
http://knoxmugshots.com/mug/amanda-star-ray
I needed to post this, as too many people seem to trust these girls. Let's not kid around, this was armed robbery. Could have easily been murder. The same applies to Harley and Barbie that they worked with. These girls knew about this before hand. They WILL eventually railroad you. How do you guys go down on these girls? They all have herpes. That's a fact. One friend I know just got it, all over his lips from doing that. Another is in a living nightmare who is under extortion by a girl who threatens to tell his wife unless he pays her $1000 a month for LIFE, and has pictures, texts and recordings. I know no one wants to hear this, but its a fact. These girls are garbage. The first rule of "mongering". DO NOT do incalls. They have all the power. Eventually, you will be robbed. If not by a gun then when you are finished and use the restroom, or later on by extortion. Always remember, they are the complete trash. Use them, be safe. And nothing more. This is a dark business.
Be safe,
Kenhaven't' seen that level of BS posted in awhile. You should get the heck off of here. Go to the puritan website.
Something that fits you better.
I'm sure you all know about this girl (here's her mug shot).
http://knoxmugshots.com/mug/amanda-star-ray
I needed to post this, as too many people seem to trust these girls. Let's not kid around, this was armed robbery. Could have easily been murder. The same applies to Harley and Barbie that they worked with. These girls knew about this before hand. They WILL eventually railroad you. How do you guys go down on these girls? They all have herpes. That's a fact. One friend I know just got it, all over his lips from doing that. Another is in a living nightmare who is under extortion by a girl who threatens to tell his wife unless he pays her $1000 a month for LIFE, and has pictures, texts and recordings. I know no one wants to hear this, but its a fact. These girls are garbage. The first rule of "mongering". DO NOT do incalls. They have all the power. Eventually, you will be robbed. If not by a gun then when you are finished and use the restroom, or later on by extortion. Always remember, they are the complete trash. Use them, be safe. And nothing more. This is a dark business.
Be safe,
Ken. How about having yourself a big ole' cup of STFU! Nobody here cares about your paranoia. And weren't you banned from this site, Taylor, uh, I mean Ken?
Guys, don't bury your head in the sand because she was a "trusted" provider, like TPP said he was her hubby so she damn sure knew about it. There maybe more to it like either Pink or Doc said as in it may not have been a robbery but more of an attempted shakedown of a local power player and instead of it going smoothly like the Rays thought, dude had more pull than they realized and they ended up in a trick bag. Who knows? No doubt "Bella" or Amanda was up to no good and was all in on some kind of deceit.
Don't get me wrong, Bella / Amanda is definitely on my no way in hell list. I was talking about the legal reality (as opposed to the "real" reality, I guess). No 100% solid evidence and an attractive female defendant = every prosecutor's worst nightmare.
She is pretty good currently at keeping this on the DL and it is no big deal to me and I suspect most of her clients know the truth but are like me. Hopefully, she will not be a repeat of Kelly.I think I know who you're talking about, or maybe know of a similar story. Either way, I hope she's not going to go the way of Kelly. None of my business what they do or don't do in their own private lives, as long as that's where it all stays.
I hate to de-rail the lovefest on the robbery question but I have a question. I don't always have the time or the money dream a full dream. I was wondering if it is possible to just negotiate a quick BJ (CIM COF) to let off some steam. I am not sure how to approach the subject with a young lady without violating the no explicit talk violation on the call. Any idea? What would be a fair donation for such a service? I know I could go out and find a streetwalker but that is not my thing.
Does anyone know a provider willing to provide this service?
Dr Holiday
06-23-11, 13:36
I hate to de-rail the lovefest on the robbery question but I have a question. I don't always have the time or the money dream a full dream. I was wondering if it is possible to just negotiate a quick BJ (CIM COF) to let off some steam. I am not sure how to approach the subject with a young lady without violating the no explicit talk violation on the call. Any idea? What would be a fair donation for such a service? I know I could go out and find a streetwalker but that is not my thing.
Does anyone know a provider willing to provide this service?Not to mention, if one gets to know you. Stuff like this can be discussed safely.
I hate to de-rail the lovefest on the robbery question but I have a question. I don't always have the time or the money dream a full dream. I was wondering if it is possible to just negotiate a quick BJ (CIM COF) to let off some steam. I am not sure how to approach the subject with a young lady without violating the no explicit talk violation on the call. Any idea? What would be a fair donation for such a service? I know I could go out and find a streetwalker but that is not my thing.
Does anyone know a provider willing to provide this service? What's "fair" is entirely up to the provider. FS or a BJ will usually cost the same, and CIM or COF may not be offered for shorter sessions. You can call and ask if they offer 30 min or even 15 min rates, but NEVER try to "negotiate".
I'm sure you all know about this girl (here's her mug shot).
http://knoxmugshots.com/mug/amanda-star-ray
I needed to post this, as too many people seem to trust these girls. Let's not kid around, this was armed robbery. Could have easily been murder. The same applies to Harley and Barbie that they worked with. These girls knew about this before hand. They WILL eventually railroad you. How do you guys go down on these girls? They all have herpes. That's a fact. One friend I know just got it, all over his lips from doing that. Another is in a living nightmare who is under extortion by a girl who threatens to tell his wife unless he pays her $1000 a month for LIFE, and has pictures, texts and recordings. I know no one wants to hear this, but its a fact. These girls are garbage. The first rule of "mongering". DO NOT do incalls. They have all the power. Eventually, you will be robbed. If not by a gun then when you are finished and use the restroom, or later on by extortion. Always remember, they are the complete trash. Use them, be safe. And nothing more. This is a dark business.
Be safe,
Ken. Facts Ken, facts. If a provider is extorting, Mongers we need to know which one. As this is your first post, and you have yet to earn credibility, be damn sure you tell the truth with the facts to support it, and not just gossip.
'They all have herpes'? That's a broad statement, any facts like a STD test? Who the hell are they? Maybe your friend picked it up from his old lady.
Your report seems full of fear, and innuendo. How about some info we can use? Have you ever been with a provider?
Member #6355
06-23-11, 14:19
I hate to de-rail the lovefest on the robbery question but I have a question. I don't always have the time or the money dream a full dream. I was wondering if it is possible to just negotiate a quick BJ (CIM COF) to let off some steam. I am not sure how to approach the subject with a young lady without violating the no explicit talk violation on the call. Any idea? What would be a fair donation for such a service? I know I could go out and find a streetwalker but that is not my thing.
Does anyone know a provider willing to provide this service? Well, you might want to consider whether you'd like to be Gentleman No. 4 in any provider's hour. I'd like to think that the lady should have at least some, er, prep time between appointments, if you catch my meaning.
Everyone on her who does kno me personally knows the truth but I culdnt sit bak and see this with out voicing my opinio so (ken) mayb that's the truth about you but like everyone else has said we didn't kno and we can't control anyones life no more than you can not to mention are reviews speak for themselves.
Member #4178
06-23-11, 15:01
haven't' seen that level of BS posted in awhile. You should get the heck off of here. Go to the puritan website.
Something that fits you better.
How about having yourself a big ole' cup of STFU! Nobody here cares about your paranoia. And weren't you banned from this site, Taylor, uh, I mean Ken?What they said. Get the hell out of here and STFU. If this is your opinion of escorts, I truly pity any of them that have the misfortune of hosting you. PHunt and others have commented amply on our "relationships" with escorts, and their points are well taken. Yours, though. Not needed. And you are neither needed or wanted on this site / forum.
How about having yourself a big ole' cup of STFU! Nobody here cares about your paranoia. And weren't you banned from this site, Taylor, uh, I mean Ken?Are you sure this was Taylor? If so, it makes no sense. Why would she say "The first rule of "mongering". DO NOT do incalls. They have all the power. Eventually, you will be robbed."? She does incalls. So she's basically killing her on business! Maybe I'm reading it wrong. But sounds like this is an overall slapdown on the hobby. I don't know why a provider would do something like that (unless they are really, really stuipid).
Are you sure this was Taylor? If so, it makes no sense. Why would she say "The first rule of "mongering". DO NOT do incalls. They have all the power. Eventually, you will be robbed."? She does incalls. So she's basically killing her on business! Maybe I'm reading it wrong. But sounds like this is an overall slapdown on the hobby. I don't know why a provider would do something like that (unless they are really, really stuipid).I'm not sure of much of anything. But I do know for sure that this (and the BP ad that was posted yesterday) both appear very similar to ads that I'm certain Taylar has taken out in the past, and also to private e-mals that she's sent in the past that I've seen. I read the "Ken Lewis" post today kind of quickly from my phone and honestly I didn't spend much time analyzing it. In some ways, you're right, it doesn't make sense. But I still wouldn't right it off as out of the question. And whether its her or not, I am confident that it is someone who has an axe to grind, specifically against the girls who he tries to associate with Bella's incident, as opposed to a well-meaning, non-pussy eating poster simply trying to inform others.
I'm not sure of much of anything. But I do know for sure that this (and the BP ad that was posted yesterday) both appear very similar to ads that I'm certain Taylar has taken out in the past, and also to private e-mals that she's sent in the past that I've seen. I read the "Ken Lewis" post today kind of quickly from my phone and honestly I didn't spend much time analyzing it. In some ways, you're right, it doesn't make sense. But I still wouldn't right it off as out of the question. And whether its her or not, I am confident that it is someone who has an axe to grind, specifically against the girls who he tries to associate with Bella's incident, as opposed to a well-meaning, non-pussy eating poster simply trying to inform others.I agree this this looks & sounds like some of Taylors vindictive BS. She always try's to involve her self with things that don't concern her. Drama Skank!
I'm not sure of much of anything. But I do know for sure that this (and the BP ad that was posted yesterday) both appear very similar to ads that I'm certain Taylar has taken out in the past, and also to private e-mals that she's sent in the past that I've seen. I read the "Ken Lewis" post today kind of quickly from my phone and honestly I didn't spend much time analyzing it. In some ways, you're right, it doesn't make sense. But I still wouldn't right it off as out of the question. And whether its her or not, I am confident that it is someone who has an axe to grind, specifically against the girls who he tries to associate with Bella's incident, as opposed to a well-meaning, non-pussy eating poster simply trying to inform others.It definitely sounds like someone with and ax to grind and not some Moral Police poster trying to warn of the dangers of the hobby."Making sense" doesn't always apply in this hobby and the participants, so who knows who wrote it.
How about having yourself a big ole' cup of STFU! Nobody here cares about your paranoia. And weren't you banned from this site, Taylor, uh, I mean Ken?I am not sure this was Taylor. If so, she shot herself in the foot, since she does in calls also.
I guess if it's Taylor she must be off of her meds again. I hope she gets it together; I would like to see her myself. If would be nice to be on top and whisper, in her ear, 'My name is Nick'. I bet it would that make her wiggle that little ass!
Dr Holiday
06-24-11, 11:44
all providers have herpes etc. All going to get robbed etc. The girls are garbage.Really has the same words and tone of a police officer that used to post on the old hard knox website.
Has the same sort of doom stuff. Dire warnings.
NOT saying it so or even likely. Just saying the words, tone and dark dire import very very similar.
Really reminds me of that LEO dudes posts is all.
You need to check what you read bc of you accusing me I have threats for your local provider. What no one get everyone is tring to find a villian in this situation bc no one want to believe a great provider we ALL know could do this. It is what it is and There is no need to drag any others into this period. I just went throught what happens when a friend (lollY) get out of control. What needs the focus Is it was Bella not the rest of us. Quit going around pointing fingers when I have no reason to take down my biz or anyone else here.I'm sorry. Hope you'll accept my apology.
I agree with what you're saying and I hope you mean it.
Pink
It had been a few years since I'd stopped by Adult World in Caryville, so while driving up 75, I thought I'd drop by and see if it had changed. Turns out, it's changed quite a bit. The have re-arranged the entire place and have an area for female entertainment. I had barely walked in when a long-legged Amazonian brunette in short-short shorts and ultra-tight t-shirt (over nice set of be-cups) asked me if I'd like a tour. I figured there was nothing wrong with the tour, so I took her hand and followed.
First, she led me to a lockable viewing booth, where she would be behind glass and I could watch (comfortably). She said this was the only area where there were no cameras, so we could each do anything (seperated by glass). Initical cost was $60 for 15 minutes. Plus tip for performer for better show.
Then she showed me a private lap dance area, complete with pole. This area was $40 per song ($70 she got completely naked).
Then there was a massage area. Complete with massage table. This was behind a curtain near the entrance. She said this was $70 for 15 minutes and either party could be massaged. Guys had to keep on their underwear. Gals would need extra tip based on amount of disrobing. (and I assume the area is under a camera's eye).
She said that both she and a blonde (who was behind a counter and looked okay but not great) were available if I'd like to have fun. I thanked her for the tour and said I'd think about. Then promptly left and got back on I-75.
From the looks and sound of things, the only happy ending available would be in the booth, behind the glass. And frankly, I can watch porn for free on my computer if I want to jack off. The girls were okay looking. Mid-range BP girls probably. But paying that much is kind of like going to a fancy restaurant and paying a big check to look and smell the food but not eat it. You still leave hungry and have go home and scramble your own eggs.
It had been a few years since I'd stopped by Adult World in Caryville, so while driving up 75, I thought I'd drop by and see if it had changed. Turns out, it's changed quite a bit. The have re-arranged the entire place and have an area for female entertainment. I had barely walked in when a long-legged Amazonian brunette in short-short shorts and ultra-tight t-shirt (over nice set of be-cups) asked me if I'd like a tour. I figured there was nothing wrong with the tour, so I took her hand and followed.
First, she led me to a lockable viewing booth, where she would be behind glass and I could watch (comfortably). She said this was the only area where there were no cameras, so we could each do anything (seperated by glass). Initical cost was $60 for 15 minutes. Plus tip for performer for better show.
Then she showed me a private lap dance area, complete with pole. This area was $40 per song ($70 she got completely naked).
Then there was a massage area. Complete with massage table. This was behind a curtain near the entrance. She said this was $70 for 15 minutes and either party could be massaged. Guys had to keep on their underwear. Gals would need extra tip based on amount of disrobing. (and I assume the area is under a camera's eye).
She said that both she and a blonde (who was behind a counter and looked okay but not great) were available if I'd like to have fun. I thanked her for the tour and said I'd think about. Then promptly left and got back on I-75.
From the looks and sound of things, the only happy ending available would be in the booth, behind the glass. And frankly, I can watch porn for free on my computer if I want to jack off. The girls were okay looking. Mid-range BP girls probably. But paying that much is kind of like going to a fancy restaurant and paying a big check to look and smell the food but not eat it. You still leave hungry and have go home and scramble your own eggs. Excellence in detail and the last sentence's poetic analogy is worhty of Shakespere. Thanks and Bravo!
T
I'm sorry. Hope you'll accept my apology.
I agree with what you're saying and I hope you mean it.
PinkI hope Taylar learned discretion is the way to go after the BS several months ago. I have been over to to her establishment several times in the past few weeks. The last time there was a screw up with my appt to see Chloe (my bad, I ran late) and Taylar made sure I had a HE instead of sending me on my way. We chatted and I got the impression she learned from her previous trouble. Who knows could have been lip service. However, I would be disappointed because she gave me a sneak peek at her goodies and I must say I have been itching to give her a try.
Member #4178
06-26-11, 17:35
In today's newspaper:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jun/26/professors-charged-in-online-prostitution/
Professors charged in online prostitution network
JERI CLAUSING Associated Press
Sunday, June 26, 2011
ALBUQUERQUE, N. M.. Two aging professors accused of running a sophisticated prostitution website appeared to have one goal: Police say they wanted to create a place where respected men like themselves could go for sex without having to worry about getting caught up in street stings.
"They have a lot to lose, and they tried to build an organization to protect themselves," Albuquerque police Lt. William Roseman said.
The website, based in the Albuquerque-Santa Fe area, featured "weather reports" about police vice stings; physical descriptions and cellphone numbers of undercover police to help members avoid arrest; training videos on what to do if members were busted; and detailed information on the prostitutes themselves, including prices and star performance rankings from other members.
Southwest Companions, with 1, 400 members, was invitation-only, and new members were vetted as they worked their way up through three tiers. The first level was "probation," Roseman said, where the new clients secured prostitutes through the site.
After they hooked up, the prostitute would tell a moderator what she did and how much she was paid. As the members progressed through the "verified" and "trusted" tiers, they gained access to more information about undercover officers and the hookers.
The hookers were paid in cash, with prices ranging from $200 for a single act to as much as $1, 000 for an hour of time. Police found no evidence students were recruited, or that the site was a university network.
David C. Flory, a physics professor at Fairleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey, is suspected of buying the site in 2009. The site was created by a woman named Cara Garrett. Investigators say Garrett was still involved in the ring when she tipped police to its existence in December after being arrested on drug, child abuse and prostitution charges.
Flory. 68, who lives in New Jersey but has a home in Santa Fe, told police he bought the site to create a safe place for people to buy and sell sex, referring to it as a hobby, Roseman said.
Flory, who used the handle "David 8," ran the site and was the main moderator, police said. He scolded people for being too graphic and failing to use the site's acronyms for describing specific acts, according to the criminal complaint. Members were removed if they were arrested or found to have had contact with police.
Flory bonded out of jail Wednesday and is facing 40 charges of promoting prostitution. He did not return phone calls seeking comment.
Among the site's top echelon was former University of New Mexico President F. Chris Garcia, who used the handle "Burque Pops" while acting as a moderator, police said.
But his main job, police said, was to act as a leader of the site's "Hunt Club," which looked for new talent. Prostitutes willing to come to New Mexico. Police identified at least 20 females recruited by "Burque Pops."
Garcia's attorney, David Serna, called his client "one of the most respected citizens the state has ever known." He added that he learned a long time ago to "view with scrutiny" what is said by Albuquerque police at a news conference.
Garcia faces charges of promoting prostitution, conspiracy and tampering with evidence.
He made his first appearance Friday along with two other defendants, Douglas Plummer. 40, who owns a landscaping company in Albuquerque, and Mike Dorsey. 36, who lives in New Mexico. Plummer and Dorsey both face charges of promoting prostitution and conspiracy. Their attorneys did not comment after the appearance.
The judge set their bond at $35, 000 each and restricted them from using the Internet.
Garcia has been suspended from his current post as professor emeritus of political science at the University of New Mexico.
Ringleaders did not appear to be getting kickbacks in the prostitution ring. But the investigation was continuing, with the Secret Service looking into financial dealings.
Police said racketeering and human trafficking charges were possible depending on what evidence is uncovered.
Garcia and Flory also are suspected of using the site to secure hookers for themselves.
In fact, Roseman, said, that's what Flory was doing when police arrested him Sunday in an Albuquerque coffee shop after following him and monitoring his home in Santa Fe for several weeks.
Member #6355
06-27-11, 09:13
In today's newspaper:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jun/26/professors-charged-in-online-prostitution/
I especially like the comment that finds this to be yet another expression of the threat of international communism. Maybe we need to add a layer of latex to our fallout shelters!
I'm about to walk in and test the waters. If the friend is anything close to Anna, I may not have any energy after lunch. A report will soon follow.
It looks like Bella will be in the slammer for awhile. According to the Sheriffs web site, Bella was bound over to the grand jury and bond was set at $17, 500.
It's a Damn shame, I will miss her.
Member #4178
06-28-11, 22:59
I'm about to walk in and test the waters. If the friend is anything close to Anna, I may not have any energy after lunch. A report will soon follow.I assume you're speaking of Anna. Member name Sctmr. Who gives the amazing erotic massages. And that I reviewed (see post #1621 this thread). And NOT of the redhead Anna currently advertising on BP going by member name Anna13 on this forum.
Speaking of Anna / Sctmr. I'm with you on this. Anna is an amazing dream. Dreamed about her again, and just about all I can say is Wow! I didn't think it could get much better than the first time I dreamed of her, but my second dream definitely did. I've been tired all afternoon (but it's a GOOD tired!) I've never dreamed about 2 girls at the same time, but if I'm going to have that dream, I'd like it to be with Anna and her friend!
Not sure how long it will be up because she wasn't very discreet. Her name is Nikki and she says she is bind for money and willing to be nice in return for some help $$. She posted pic but it looks like old Polaroid or something. She said she was 5' and 100lbs. Good for all you spinner lovers. I passed because I got a weird vibe and she has this strange giggle and she kept giggling. Her phone # is 454-7704 in case they take ad down. If someone TOFTT let us know.
Jj Dillion 2
06-30-11, 21:06
Not sure how long it will be up because she wasn't very discreet. Her name is Nikki and she says she is bind for money and willing to be nice in return for some help $$. She posted pic but it looks like old Polaroid or something. She said she was 5' and 100lbs. Good for all you spinner lovers. I passed because I got a weird vibe and she has this strange giggle and she kept giggling. Her phone # is 454-7704 in case they take ad down. If someone TOFTT let us know.This chick is not worth seeing she do have skills singing on the mic and the $$$ can be talke down I stopped seeing her cause she is strange and she has an old man I think she was going to try to rob me last week cause she kept asking me to come and see her and bring her a pack of cigs and when I said I could come at the moment she got mad and told me I was wasting her time.
This chick is not worth seeing she do have skills singing on the mic and the $$$ can be talke down I stopped seeing her cause she is strange and she has an old man I think she was going to try to rob me last week cause she kept asking me to come and see her and bring her a pack of cigs and when I said I could come at the moment she got mad and told me I was wasting her time.I talked to her on the phone and the thing that gave me weird feeling was she kept giggling and her giggle was crackling like she had either a 3 pack a day habit or was on the crack pipe hard.
Heard Uncle Leo is going all out to try and keep festivities down this weekend. State boys are going to increase their presence on highway & byways freeing up a few locals to harass people trying to have a little fun wether it be Joe Monger or family man letting off a few firecrackers for the kids. My source (a local cop) specifically said something about prostitution so sounds like the walker crowd needs to be extra careful. FWIW, my source is not a friend of mine. He has no clue his loose lips are so revealing. However, his info has been pretty reliable.
Member #4178
07-01-11, 06:51
Heard Uncle Leo is going all out to try and keep festivities down this weekend. State boys are going to increase their presence on highway & byways freeing up a few locals to harass people trying to have a little fun wether it be Joe Monger or family man letting off a few firecrackers for the kids. My source (a local cop) specifically said something about prostitution so sounds like the walker crowd needs to be extra careful. FWIW, my source is not a friend of mine. He has no clue his loose lips are so revealing. However, his info has been pretty reliable.Thanks for the info.
Heard Uncle Leo is going all out to try and keep festivities down this weekend. State boys are going to increase their presence on highway & byways freeing up a few locals to harass people trying to have a little fun wether it be Joe Monger or family man letting off a few firecrackers for the kids. My source (a local cop) specifically said something about prostitution so sounds like the walker crowd needs to be extra careful. FWIW, my source is not a friend of mine. He has no clue his loose lips are so revealing. However, his info has been pretty reliable.Thanks for the heads up
This chick is not worth seeing she do have skills singing on the mic and the $$$ can be talke down I stopped seeing her cause she is strange and she has an old man I think she was going to try to rob me last week cause she kept asking me to come and see her and bring her a pack of cigs and when I said I could come at the moment she got mad and told me I was wasting her time.I dreamed about Nikki twice last week cd. 5 first time went back for round two she wanted. 5 BBBJ so I did but she was acting weird that day like someone was in her house waiting house is off of Magnolia.
Out Of Towner2
07-02-11, 09:05
Not sure how long it will be up because she wasn't very discreet. Her name is Nikki and she says she is bind for money and willing to be nice in return for some help $$. She posted pic but it looks like old Polaroid or something. She said she was 5' and 100lbs. Good for all you spinner lovers. I passed because I got a weird vibe and she has this strange giggle and she kept giggling. Her phone # is 454-7704 in case they take ad down. If someone TOFTT let us know.I talked to a Nikki a few months ago. We set a time and almost a place but when the time came phone was disconnected and email was not answered. I later saw a post on CL where someone said they had turned the post into the FBI because they must be doing something illegal.
I think there is a post on here from another person that actually made face to face connect with her than said about the same thing as below.
Member #4178
07-12-11, 14:51
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it appeared to be a completely malicious attempt to expose or threaten to expose the personal identity of another Forum Member.
There's simply no excuse and no justification for posting or threatening to post Personal Identity Information or otherwise threatening or attempting to "out" any Forum Member.
Posting Personal Identity Information in the Forum is strictly prohibited and will result in the perpetrator being permanently banned from the Forum.
Thanks!
Member #4178
07-12-11, 18:40
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it appeared to be a completely malicious attempt to expose or threaten to expose the personal identity of another Forum Member.
There's simply no excuse and no justification for posting or threatening to post Personal Identity Information or otherwise threatening or attempting to "out" any Forum Member.
Posting Personal Identity Information in the Forum is strictly prohibited and will result in the perpetrator being permanently banned from the Forum.
Thanks! This is absolutely NOT what I was trying to do.
If you follow what has happened here in Knoxville over the past month or so, we've had 1 trusted provider arrested after she and her husband allegedly robbed a client, then another trusted provider arrested in an apparent "sting" operation. Accounts of what followed their arrests are speculative, but have included things ranging UP TO they are completely cooperating with LE and we (Mongers) should be concerned that LE will be coming after us based on info provided by these 2 providers.
Since apparently another provider was arrested yesterday and is currently in the Knox County jail, given this past months history, I think it is reasonable to expect those of us who utilize providers services to be interested in who has been arrested. I have no idea who this woman is, (assuming based on your post that she IS a forum member) but would like to know so that I can avoid patronizing her for at least a month or 2 following her arrest.
I apologize for breaking Forum rules; I have tried to contact Admin once before on a completely unrelated Administrative matter, and got back the message that Admin does not receive PM's, so I assume I don't have that option now. I might respectfully suggest that rather than POSTING that my post was deleted, perhaps it could have been better handled with a PM to me explaining WHY it wasn't posted. And I could have then apologized and explained myself in a less public manner.
Having said all that. If a local provider has been arrested for (say) prostitution, is there any way for those of us who utilize this forum to: 1. Help ensure we're not stepping into Uncle Leo's lair, and 2. Identify who the quality (and trusted) providers are, and 3. Communicate via PM with each other. Is there any way for us to share with others on the forum as general news that a provider has been arrested and that seeing that provider might endanger your freedom WITHOUT revealing any identity?
I appreciate this forum, and do not want to be the perpetrator "being permanently banned from the Forum". If you review my past posts, you will note that I have always tried to abide fully by Forum rules, and did NOT deliberately or maliciously try to break them with this post. If you look at what I actually wrote / quoted in my (deleted) post, and look at the (publicly viewable) Knox County 24 hour arrest list information, you will see that I deleted all the information about the arrested party except the name, charges, and picture (I. E. Removed address, DOB, etc) before I tried to post it. I know I'm a fairly new member (< 2 months) , but I have been fairly active on the boards, and would like to think that I have provided some useful information to some members; I would hope that this one error would not result in my being banned.
Thanks for listening.
TPP
Member #4178
07-15-11, 16:52
So I spent a little while yesterday texting back and forth with Bella – and as you might imagine, her side of the story differs somewhat from the story that we've all read / heard.
I think I can say with some degree of assurance that for most of us who had met Bella, the account of the robbery and subsequent arrest didn't quite add up – not only did it seem completely out of character with the young woman we had met (although, as has been pointed out on this board numerous times before, given the nature of their work, how well can we as clients ever really know these women) , but it seemed completely counterproductive to her continuing to work, both as an escort and at her 'regular' job, and would undoubtedly separate her from her little boy that she adores.
Her side of the story is basically that the guy was a new person she hadn't seen before, and (turns out) is a drug dealer with quite a bit of money. Her husband was coming in to get her out of the room because she was in danger; there was never any money recovered, and the guy came up with this story to cover up what he was actually doing – seeing an escort. It came down to their word versus his, and they came out on the losing end.
I would like to think that I'm a decent judge of character with people I meet. I'm usually right. And if she really did what the story said, I completely misjudged her, so her side of the story restores my faith (a little) in my judgement.
In my experience, there's always 2 sides to every story, and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle. FWIW, I'm inclined to believe that the truth is closer to Bella's side of the story than the officially published account (did we ever hear who the guy was? Isn't that generally published in these kinds of stories?). As she said via text, though, it doesn't change what's happened or restore her reputation, but she did hope to let those of us that know her know that she would never do something like what was published. She's trying to put it behind her, and I wish her the best of luck.
So I spent a little while yesterday texting back and forth with Bella – and as you might imagine, her side of the story differs somewhat from the story that we've all read / heard.
I think I can say with some degree of assurance that for most of us who had met Bella, the account of the robbery and subsequent arrest didn't quite add up – not only did it seem completely out of character with the young woman we had met (although, as has been pointed out on this board numerous times before, given the nature of their work, how well can we as clients ever really know these women) , but it seemed completely counterproductive to her continuing to work, both as an escort and at her 'regular' job, and would undoubtedly separate her from her little boy that she adores.
Her side of the story is basically that the guy was a new person she hadn't seen before, and (turns out) is a drug dealer with quite a bit of money. Her husband was coming in to get her out of the room because she was in danger; there was never any money recovered, and the guy came up with this story to cover up what he was actually doing – seeing an escort. It came down to their word versus his, and they came out on the losing end.
I would like to think that I'm a decent judge of character with people I meet. I'm usually right. And if she really did what the story said, I completely misjudged her, so her side of the story restores my faith (a little) in my judgement.
In my experience, there's always 2 sides to every story, and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle. FWIW, I'm inclined to believe that the truth is closer to Bella's side of the story than the officially published account (did we ever hear who the guy was? Isn't that generally published in these kinds of stories?). As she said via text, though, it doesn't change what's happened or restore her reputation, but she did hope to let those of us that know her know that she would never do something like what was published. She's trying to put it behind her, and I wish her the best of luck.I've had the opportunity to spend quite a bit of time talking to Bella and I agree that this entire story was completely out of character with the lady I felt like I knew - at least to a limited degree. I've been wanting to talk to Bella and I'll probably reach out to her soon. Thanks for sharing this information TwoPup.
In my experience, there's always 2 sides to every story, and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle. FWIW, I'm inclined to believe that the truth is closer to Bella's side of the story than the officially published account (did we ever hear who the guy was? Isn't that generally published in these kinds of stories?). As she said via text, though, it doesn't change what's happened or restore her reputation, but she did hope to let those of us that know her know that she would never do something like what was published. She's trying to put it behind her, and I wish her the best of luck.Yes you are right. There's always 3 sides of each story. Story of person A and person B and then the truth. I have no idea if she really did rob a guy since I was not there and don't know all details but you have to realize that it will be obvious that she will say she is not guilty. Do you really think she would admit "Yeah, I really did rob that guy" to a "friend"? You guys have to realize that even though you spend 1 hour / month (maybe more depending on monger) with them that does NOT really make you a "friend" that providers will share secrets with. You are still a client that they make their lively hood from.
Dr Holiday
07-16-11, 07:45
Yes you are right. There's always 3 sides of each story. Story of person A and person B and then the truth. I have no idea if she really did rob a guy since I was not there and don't know all details but you have to realize that it will be obvious that she will say she is not guilty. Do you really think she would admit "Yeah, I really did rob that guy" to a "friend"? You guys have to realize that even though you spend 1 hour / month (maybe more depending on monger) with them that does NOT really make you a "friend" that providers will share secrets with. You are still a client that they make their lively hood from.All too right bobcarguy. Agree with all you said.
Elements of the published story for sure didn't add up. However, this version got some that are equally funny. Drug dealer with lots of cash that promptly calls the police. Anybody buying that? Real bad luck of that's the case. However, maybe that's what they were counting on.
Media would delight in identifying a dealer in with an escort. Lots of stuff just doesn't follow in either version.
So who knows.
One thing that is sure though, smart ones will be very cautious and keep ones distance till this all blows over. Which ever way it goes.
Those that appear to have let their guard down and in contact (shaking my head). Even if didn't do what the media said. Unfortunately its still the case her lawyer has something to barter with. Its you.
Forget that at your own peril.
Member #4178
07-16-11, 09:08
.the young woman we had met (although, as has been pointed out on this board numerous times before, given the nature of their work, how well can we as clients ever really know these women) , but it seemed completely counterproductive.
Yes you are right. There's always 3 sides of each story. Story of person A and person B and then the truth. I have no idea if she really did rob a guy since I was not there and don't know all details but you have to realize that it will be obvious that she will say she is not guilty. Do you really think she would admit "Yeah, I really did rob that guy" to a "friend"? You guys have to realize that even though you spend 1 hour / month (maybe more depending on monger) with them that does NOT really make you a "friend" that providers will share secrets with. You are still a client that they make their lively hood from.Yes. I freely acknowledge that (see the quote above) , and would not have expected her to say she was guilty, but her story sounds more plausible to me than the story that was published. Recognizing that we ARE clients, how would her robbing a single client (with the published story, you would certainly have expected at least SOME publicity) help her continue to make a living? There were just far too many things that didn't add up in the original story, including the fact that the "victims" name was never (to my knowledge) published.
I'm just saying.
Dr Holiday
07-16-11, 14:23
Yes. I freely acknowledge that (see the quote above) , and would not have expected her to say she was guilty, but her story sounds more plausible to me than the story that was published. Recognizing that we ARE clients, how would her robbing a single client (with the published story, you would certainly have expected at least SOME publicity) help her continue to make a living? There were just far too many things that didn't add up in the original story, including the fact that the "victims" name was never (to my knowledge) published.
I'm just saying."Counterproductive to business" robbery isn't new. Has happened before without regard to what bad publicity might do.
One's still around after nailing newbies at gunpoint. When she makes a run through here again. I'll point out the robbery history when she shows to keep why'all safe that are newbies.
What drives people to do certain things that actually in the long run make them worse off is a long long list. I'm not saying that any of them apply here but one can think of some highly plausible examples. E. G. Drugs, obeying controlling abusive boyfriends / husbands etc. Desperation creates desperate acts. Just plain dumb often is a factor. Ask any criminal lawyer.
But at risk of being tediously repetitive, our legal system works by putting in extreme over charges charges to extort plea deals and cooperation with LEO. Its how the game works. Get a plea down to a lessor charge, cooperate with LEO and prosecutor gets a number of more convictions on the clients. Prosecutor gets a win in his / her column without spending expensive time in court (where might actually lose too and look real bad). Prosecutor gets a number of more easy convictions on the score card when her lawyer trades some of us being convicted for the plea.
No underpaid overworked prosecutor gets to be attorney general, sit on state supreme court or run for congress with a losing record. Its about the number of wins. Can't even jump to big $$$ private practice at a ritzy firm without big win record. Uncle LEO likes the low hanging fruit too. Big charge easy arrest.
High publicity case that makes the news like this one. Even better. Cake with icing on it.
Getting close to this. The wolves have the prey in their teeth. Beware being bit too.
Thebossmro
07-16-11, 15:32
All too right bobcarguy. Agree with all you said.
Elements of the published story for sure didn't add up. However, this version got some that are equally funny. Drug dealer with lots of cash that promptly calls the police. Anybody buying that? Real bad luck of that's the case. However, maybe that's what they were counting on.
Media would delight in identifying a dealer in with an escort. Lots of stuff just doesn't follow in either version.
So who knows.
One thing that is sure though, smart ones will be very cautious and keep ones distance till this all blows over. Which ever way it goes.
Those that appear to have let their guard down and in contact (shaking my head). Even if didn't do what the media said. Unfortunately its still the case her lawyer has something to barter with. Its you.
Forget that at your own peril.Dr Holiday is excatly right really bad idea to be contacting her right now. And I have to agree to much of her story just dose not add up like if he was a drug dealer he would be all over the paper. But if he was a straight regular guy and he has a family or something to protect no uncle leo will not release his name to the media then. Now as for me even though I had seen Bella before I for one would never go back just my preference. But I do wish her the best in the future and her court case.
Yes. I freely acknowledge that (see the quote above) , and would not have expected her to say she was guilty, but her story sounds more plausible to me than the story that was published. Recognizing that we ARE clients, how would her robbing a single client (with the published story, you would certainly have expected at least SOME publicity) help her continue to make a living? There were just far too many things that didn't add up in the original story, including the fact that the "victims" name was never (to my knowledge) published.
I'm just saying.None of it makes a lot of sense, but here are some conjectures and questions on my part:
-If the guy was a dealer, it does not seem logical that HE would call the police. However, that's only if she's telling the truth about him being a dealer.
-So. How did the police show up? Bella says that her husband showed up at the room to warn her of danger. What kind of danger? Did he know the police were coming? Were the police tracking them (Bella and husband) or the dealer? It seems odd that they would make a bust at that exact moment.
-It seems like if they wanted to bust Bella they would have sent in an undercover officer and got her for prostitution. Not waited until she had a customer who could have denied what was going on.
-if they thought a drug deal was going on (because the guy is supposedly a dealer) , then it seems suspicious that the guy was not arrested too. I doubt they would blow their wad on a drug bust thta they weren't sure they would find some drugs.
The only thing I know for sure is that I agree with everyone who says DO NOT go near Bella until there is definitive proof that she is innocent. That might never happen and if she is telling the truth now, that is unfortunate. Still, it's the world she lives in and the risks she chose to take. I wish her well. And I hope everyone stays safe.
KenLewis01
07-16-11, 19:51
None of it makes a lot of sense, but here are some conjectures and questions on my part:
-If the guy was a dealer, it does not seem logical that HE would call the police. However, that's only if she's telling the truth about him being a dealer.
-So. How did the police show up? Bella says that her husband showed up at the room to warn her of danger. What kind of danger? Did he know the police were coming? Were the police tracking them (Bella and husband) or the dealer? It seems odd that they would make a bust at that exact moment.
-It seems like if they wanted to bust Bella they would have sent in an undercover officer and got her for prostitution. Not waited until she had a customer who could have denied what was going on.
Ecause the guy is supposedly a dealer) , then it seems suspicious that the guy was not arrested too. I doubt they would blow their wad on a drug bust thta they weren't sure they would find some drugs.
The only thing I know for sure is that I agree with everyone who says DO NOT go near Bella until there is definitive proof that she is innocent. That might never happen and if she is telling the truth now, that is unfortunate. Still, it's the world she lives in and the risks she chose to take. I wish her well. And I hope everyone stays safe.She realized no one in their right mind would go to the cops. Would you? That's like going to the cops because someone sold you bad drugs. I'm sure it was some old rich guy who carries a ton of cash on him so she planed it with her husband. What a ****.
Whats the deal with adult world? I am going to knoxville in a few weeks on business, away from the wifey and looking for all types of straight debauchery. Any info would be great. Any other suggestions for my night out on the town would be good too. I hope I'm posting this is the right thread. Take it easy! I'm trying to find easy!
Harley Driver
07-19-11, 16:33
Thanks to all you regulars posting on here. Your Postings have been very helpful and I look forward to adding where I can.
So I spent a little while yesterday texting back and forth with Bella – and as you might imagine, her side of the story differs somewhat from the story that we've all read / heard.
I think I can say with some degree of assurance that for most of us who had met Bella, the account of the robbery and subsequent arrest didn't quite add up – not only did it seem completely out of character with the young woman we had met (although, as has been pointed out on this board numerous times before, given the nature of their work, how well can we as clients ever really know these women) , but it seemed completely counterproductive to her continuing to work, both as an escort and at her 'regular' job, and would undoubtedly separate her from her little boy that she adores.
Her side of the story is basically that the guy was a new person she hadn't seen before, and (turns out) is a drug dealer with quite a bit of money. Her husband was coming in to get her out of the room because she was in danger; there was never any money recovered, and the guy came up with this story to cover up what he was actually doing – seeing an escort. It came down to their word versus his, and they came out on the losing end.
I would like to think that I'm a decent judge of character with people I meet. I'm usually right. And if she really did what the story said, I completely misjudged her, so her side of the story restores my faith (a little) in my judgement.
In my experience, there's always 2 sides to every story, and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle. FWIW, I'm inclined to believe that the truth is closer to Bella's side of the story than the officially published account (did we ever hear who the guy was? Isn't that generally published in these kinds of stories?). As she said via text, though, it doesn't change what's happened or restore her reputation, but she did hope to let those of us that know her know that she would never do something like what was published. She's trying to put it behind her, and I wish her the best of luck.Bella is such a liar and I can't believe so many people are so gullable and senile to believe her nonsense after she was CAUGHT IN THE ACT- way to go, Bella! RED FLAG! The kpd is not lying. Neither is the news. Of course she didn't want to compromise her craft and be "counterproductive" to her business, but she didn't think shed get caught! Bellas husband looks preposterous! They got a little' too high on oxy's and roxy's and got bold enough to try to pull off a botched operation, complete with fake police uniforms and all, LMAO! Hilarious! All for about 4000 measly buck? Ludacris."drug delaer"?"Never met"? Bella is digging herself into a hole. I don't have any faith in "Bella the skinny", her husband looks like a complete strung out fool, PEOPLE NEED TO STICK TO WEED! Good day.
Bella is such a liar and I can't believe so many people are so gullable and senile to believe her nonsense after she was CAUGHT IN THE ACT- way to go, Bella! RED FLAG! The kpd is not lying. Neither is the news. Of course she didn't want to compromise her craft and be "counterproductive" to her business, but she didn't think shed get caught! Bellas husband looks preposterous! They got a little' too high on oxy's and roxy's and got bold enough to try to pull off a botched operation, complete with fake police uniforms and all, LMAO! Hilarious! All for about 4000 measly buck? Ludacris."drug delaer"?"Never met"? Bella is digging herself into a hole. I don't have any faith in "Bella the skinny", her husband looks like a complete strung out fool, PEOPLE NEED TO STICK TO WEED! Good day.Everyone should remember that 95% of these girls have addictions and all addicts are liars, sorry but thats the way it is IMHO.
Everyone should remember that 95% of these girls have addictions and all addicts are liars, sorry but thats the way it is IMHO.Don't disagree with you generally but by definition 99. 9 percent of us dreamers are liars too so I don't think any of us should get all holier than thou about always telling the truth.
KenLewis01
07-21-11, 19:22
Saw my stock portfolio go up big today, so decided to reward myself. Tried out this one:
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/super-hot-georgous-fun-blonde-26/4065401
"Clair". Uses number (615) 636-9070.
On the phone she sounded bubbly and fun and those massive TRIPPLE DDD's lured me in.
This girl fucks like no other. We were fucking all over the place. Everywhere. Those huge mellons were bouncing all over over the place. They were awesome. I tried to last the full hour, but I think I busted in about 30 min. Just chilled after that. Totally worth it, and a fun girl.
Demosthenes
07-24-11, 17:45
Don't disagree with you generally but by definition 99. 9 percent of us dreamers are liars too so I don't think any of us should get all holier than thou about always telling the truth.There's a certain honor among thieves, if you will, that needs to be respected. The problem with these kinds of things is that people just doing it for money and fun are uncommon because it is so illegal. Instead, you get people that have some other reason for doing it. Popular ones include drugs and other unsavory things. Getting rolled by someone that is in the throes of an opiate addiction really isn't uncommon and should pretty much be expected. I have no problem with people doing drugs as long as they do them reasonably safely (no sharing needles) and don't cause problems with my experience. But instead we get mostly the dregs of society, the junkies, the enslaved, and the violent. That is what we get for outlawing prostitution. When you take something that isn't morally wrong in the first place and make it illegal, there will be a black market for it. Sorry to knock your ivory tower down, law makers.
I, for one, would pay a premium for a 'date' that isn't a junkie. I'm not naming names or making any assumptions about who is or who isn't one, though. Just as a little FYI to any providers out there, but I don't imagine that many junkies are spending their time reading these boards for suggestions.
Demosthenes
07-24-11, 18:01
Don't disagree with you generally but by definition 99. 9 percent of us dreamers are liars too so I don't think any of us should get all holier than thou about always telling the truth.There's a certain honor among thieves, if you will, that needs to be respected. The problem with these kinds of things is that people just doing it for money and fun are uncommon because it is so illegal. Instead, you get people that have some other reason for doing it. Popular ones include drugs and other unsavory things. Getting rolled by someone that is in the throes of an opiate addiction really isn't uncommon and should pretty much be expected. I have no problem with people doing drugs as long as they do them reasonably safely (no sharing needles) and don't cause problems with my experience. But instead we get mostly the dregs of society, the junkies, the enslaved, and the violent. That is what we get for outlawing prostitution. When you take something that isn't morally wrong in the first place and make it illegal, there will be a black market for it. Sorry to knock your ivory tower down, law makers.
I, for one, would pay a premium for a 'date' that isn't a junkie. I'm not naming names or making any assumptions about who is or who isn't one, though. Just as a little FYI to any providers out there, but I don't imagine that many junkies are spending their time reading these boards for suggestions.
There's a certain honor among thieves, if you will, that needs to be respected. The problem with these kinds of things is that people just doing it for money and fun are uncommon because it is so illegal. Instead, you get people that have some other reason for doing it. Popular ones include drugs and other unsavory things. Getting rolled by someone that is in the throes of an opiate addiction really isn't uncommon and should pretty much be expected. I have no problem with people doing drugs as long as they do them reasonably safely (no sharing needles) and don't cause problems with my experience. But instead we get mostly the dregs of society, the junkies, the enslaved, and the violent. That is what we get for outlawing prostitution. When you take something that isn't morally wrong in the first place and make it illegal, there will be a black market for it. Sorry to knock your ivory tower down, law makers.
I, for one, would pay a premium for a 'date' that isn't a junkie. I'm not naming names or making any assumptions about who is or who isn't one, though. Just as a little FYI to any providers out there, but I don't imagine that many junkies are spending their time reading these boards for suggestions.We should call this: Bella, the untold story.
I think you are wrong about our local providers; I have never been with a slave or the dregs of society, so to speak, but a good rule of thumb is, if you are willing to spend a few more of those crumpled up green backs, and do the research, vary high quality companionship is available in the area. You probably are not going to find it walking the street. In this hobby like most things in life, you get what you pay for. Cheap usually means: No talent, quick, desperate, or just plan nasty.
I have met several classy, carefree, and fun ladies over the last few years, and fun was had by all.
I agree the story in the media, was completely out of character with the girl I know as Bella. I also know, people do change, and sometimes quickly, especially if mind altering chemicals are involved. I am also quite sure, the press got most of the facts wrong, maybe with the help of KPD, I see that every time, I read the paper. Remember that Uncle LEO usually has an agenda; It is not unheard of for an attractive young lady, busted on some miner offence, to be turned loose for a blow job, so add that to your equation of credibility. The story in the paper stinks, I can make up better shit than that, with a hangover.
My experience with Bella was great, so I am going to answer a few questions from the ongoing theme: Would the Knoxville providers fuck us if no cash was involved? Some would, some wouldn't. Should prostitution be legal? Hell yes, it is, in most of the world, and even a lot of the US. Is Bella guilty? I don't care. Would I see Bella again? Probably, in a safe location of my choosing, she is a great lay and I had a good time. Are all providers liars? No, absolutely not, I do have the biggest dick they have ever seen.
Don't lose sight of what the hobby is all about, wonderful fun, and sport fucking!
Be safe out there.
Nick
I truly miss the ease and reliability of Escorts. Com, now that they are gone. Does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement site, that really works?
Nick
I truly miss the ease and reliability of Escorts. Com, now that they are gone. Does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement site, that really works?
NickI hear ya man! And I wholeheartedly agree. That was a really useful site.
Member #6355
08-06-11, 10:02
According to a great American, the female human species is divided into three categories, which correlate somewhat but not entirely to age:
(1) Girls, who want you to kiss them on the lips.
(2) Women, who want you to kiss them on the pussy.
And
(3) Ladies, who want you to kiss them on the ass.
I vote for category #2, and for the providers who fall into that category.
Don't disagree with you generally but by definition 99. 9 percent of us dreamers are liars too so I don't think any of us should get all holier than thou about always telling the truth.Couldn't have said it better Floyd.
Dr Holiday
08-09-11, 13:59
Couldn't have said it better Floyd.Getting holier than thou is useless.
Out Of Towner2
08-13-11, 16:29
There was a lady on BP that used to refer to Knoxville as KnoxVegas and a few on here picked it up for a little while.
I was watching the mid day news in Nashville the other day and when the weatherman pointed at Knoxville he said. KnoxVegas. Hummmmm
Due to the economy and certain other issues, my hobbying has been rarer recently; and when I have seen someone, I have not been posting for discretionary reasons. Since my last post, I have seen Tsuki (great!) ; Taylar (not bad) ; the recently "retired" Harley a couple more times (better each time. Wouldn't go anywhere near now!) ; Victoria (absolutely shitty location; rushed; on something). As my indulgences have become rarer, I have tried something different.
I saw in the Richmond, VA board a thread about some of the various "sugar daddy" sites and the success guys were having finding otherwise "UTR" (at least in the advertising sense) girls. I signed up for a month, sent out a few emails, and. Have had some amazing finds! No pics, no one whose number I can share at this time, but it seems to be a safer, easier way to find dream companions. Easier for me than the good Doctor's method of finding them in bars, clubs, etc. Just wondering whether anyone else in knoxville has tried any of these sites with any success.
Oh, and funnily enough, several of the local BP girls are listed on the site, too. Either that or someone is using the same photos off of BP!
Member #6355
09-08-11, 22:09
Due to the economy and certain other issues, my hobbying has been rarer recently; and when I have seen someone, I have not been posting for discretionary reasons. Since my last post, I have seen Tsuki (great!) ; Taylar (not bad) ; the recently "retired" Harley a couple more times (better each time. Wouldn't go anywhere near now!) ; Victoria (absolutely shitty location; rushed; on something). As my indulgences have become rarer, I have tried something different.
I saw in the Richmond, VA board a thread about some of the various "sugar daddy" sites and the success guys were having finding otherwise "UTR" (at least in the advertising sense) girls. I signed up for a month, sent out a few emails, and. Have had some amazing finds! No pics, no one whose number I can share at this time, but it seems to be a safer, easier way to find dream companions. Easier for me than the good Doctor's method of finding them in bars, clubs, etc. Just wondering whether anyone else in knoxville has tried any of these sites with any success.
Oh, and funnily enough, several of the local BP girls are listed on the site, too. Either that or someone is using the same photos off of BP!Not really the same thing, but I did try a certain site (initials AM, name censored here) for awhile. Found some interesting prospects, but the site will nickle and dime you for everything. Plus it's geared toward having full-blown romantic affairs, which seem to me too messy and too prone to exposure. So I'm sticking with pay-to-play for the time being. One weird thing: I ran into my ex-wife on there! But I didn't make contact.
KnoxFreak2
09-11-11, 19:05
I was ripped off by someone I seen before, This may be my last post I think I'm quitting the hobby. I was always so respectful and carefully, I thought that this was impossible for me.
Well its been great.
"don't pick up any candy near ut especially if its 25yo"
Member #4579
09-12-11, 10:15
Everyone should remember that 95% of these girls have addictions and all addicts are liars, sorry but thats the way it is IMHO.Yes I agree! As a provider myself other providers are pretty honest with me. I was introduced into this by an addict thinking about what all I could pay for (school, apartment, car) with the money she spent on drugs. Until I met Barbie (who is sadly gone) I swore to never work with any other girls cause I assume most other providers are addicts. I was glad when I found someone who was different and shared a lot of the same goals. When I heard she was leaving I was sad cause I enjoyed having a friendship with another provider so I took my guard down and met some other providers. Lets just say I was shocked at how unprofessional some were and how strung out others were, one provider openely "used" within the first 5 mins of meeting. I have shared my frustration with some dreamers on here but I figured I would post about it. I will not be doing doubles anymore cause Barbie was a rare find. I don't think I'm being judgmental but I am stereotyping and there is a reason for stereotypes (for example- the recent robberies).
You get what you pay for. Here recently there have been many girls having $60, $70, $80, specials. Why are they so desperate? It makes me mad because everyday I get a call from someone who tellls me all about how this girl or that girl is cheaper, well, its cause she is cheap. Guys, if its TGTBT it probably is, if you're getting a "great deal" just think would you rather pay for a McDonalds burger or a Steak, also remember LOCATION location location- if a girl is at a $30 a day motel or bad part of town you know her $ is going to something more important than a nicer place.
Sorry for the rant but it makes me very angry that because I do what I do assumptions are made of me and that some providers are running around ruining the hobby for everyone.
Member #6355
09-12-11, 12:38
Yes I agree! As a provider myself other providers are pretty honest with me. I was introduced into this by an addict thinking about what all I could pay for (school, apartment, car) with the money she spent on drugs. Until I met Barbie (who is sadly gone) I swore to never work with any other girls cause I assume most other providers are addicts. I was glad when I found someone who was different and shared a lot of the same goals. When I heard she was leaving I was sad cause I enjoyed having a friendship with another provider so I took my guard down and met some other providers. Lets just say I was shocked at how unprofessional some were and how strung out others were, one provider openely "used" within the first 5 mins of meeting. I have shared my frustration with some dreamers on here but I figured I would post about it. I will not be doing doubles anymore cause Barbie was a rare find. I don't think I'm being judgmental but I am stereotyping and there is a reason for stereotypes (for example- the recent robberies).
You get what you pay for. Here recently there have been many girls having $60, $70, $80, specials. Why are they so desperate? It makes me mad because everyday I get a call from someone who tellls me all about how this girl or that girl is cheaper, well, its cause she is cheap. Guys, if its TGTBT it probably is, if you're getting a "great deal" just think would you rather pay for a McDonalds burger or a Steak, also remember LOCATION location location- if a girl is at a $30 a day motel or bad part of town you know her $ is going to something more important than a nicer place.
Sorry for the rant but it makes me very angry that because I do what I do assumptions are made of me and that some providers are running around ruining the hobby for everyone.Alexis knows of which she speaks. She's one of the very best around and very selflessly helped me out on a couple of occasions when I was having trouble getting through to the now retired Ms. B.
Don't worry about those 60. 80 dollar girls. You are so far beyond their league it ain't even funny! And any monger who would haggle you over your modest rates is not worthy of your time!
Yes I agree! As a provider myself other providers are pretty honest with me. I was introduced into this by an addict thinking about what all I could pay for (school, apartment, car) with the money she spent on drugs. Until I met Barbie (who is sadly gone) I swore to never work with any other girls cause I assume most other providers are addicts. I was glad when I found someone who was different and shared a lot of the same goals. When I heard she was leaving I was sad cause I enjoyed having a friendship with another provider so I took my guard down and met some other providers. Lets just say I was shocked at how unprofessional some were and how strung out others were, one provider openely "used" within the first 5 mins of meeting. I have shared my frustration with some dreamers on here but I figured I would post about it. I will not be doing doubles anymore cause Barbie was a rare find. I don't think I'm being judgmental but I am stereotyping and there is a reason for stereotypes (for example- the recent robberies).
You get what you pay for. Here recently there have been many girls having $60, $70, $80, specials. Why are they so desperate? It makes me mad because everyday I get a call from someone who tellls me all about how this girl or that girl is cheaper, well, its cause she is cheap. Guys, if its TGTBT it probably is, if you're getting a "great deal" just think would you rather pay for a McDonalds burger or a Steak, also remember LOCATION location location- if a girl is at a $30 a day motel or bad part of town you know her $ is going to something more important than a nicer place.
Sorry for the rant but it makes me very angry that because I do what I do assumptions are made of me and that some providers are running around ruining the hobby for everyone.
Hello, room, I have a smile on my face, I finally dreamed of the lovely ava, all I can say is wow, nice personality, in my dream she was good with her hxands even without the lotion. LOL.
Took her time. I dreamed that she had nice booobs (real). I will have to repeat and dream again and again. I have to say the dream safe and clean. Thank you ava. Xxxx
MicroSupreme11
09-12-11, 16:46
Well said, you certainly get what you pay for, in this hobby much like in the rest of life.
On a side note, I had the great pleasure to dream of Alexis in the not too distant past, and she is without a doubt the best provider here in town.
Member #5755
09-12-11, 17:05
Yes I agree! As a provider myself other providers are pretty honest with me. I was introduced into this by an addict thinking about what all I could pay for (school, apartment, car) with the money she spent on drugs. Until I met Barbie (who is sadly gone) I swore to never work with any other girls cause I assume most other providers are addicts. I was glad when I found someone who was different and shared a lot of the same goals. When I heard she was leaving I was sad cause I enjoyed having a friendship with another provider so I took my guard down and met some other providers. Lets just say I was shocked at how unprofessional some were and how strung out others were, one provider openely "used" within the first 5 mins of meeting. I have shared my frustration with some dreamers on here but I figured I would post about it. I will not be doing doubles anymore cause Barbie was a rare find. I don't think I'm being judgmental but I am stereotyping and there is a reason for stereotypes (for example- the recent robberies).
You get what you pay for. Here recently there have been many girls having $60, $70, $80, specials. Why are they so desperate? It makes me mad because everyday I get a call from someone who tellls me all about how this girl or that girl is cheaper, well, its cause she is cheap. Guys, if its TGTBT it probably is, if you're getting a "great deal" just think would you rather pay for a McDonalds burger or a Steak, also remember LOCATION location location- if a girl is at a $30 a day motel or bad part of town you know her $ is going to something more important than a nicer place.
Sorry for the rant but it makes me very angry that because I do what I do assumptions are made of me and that some providers are running around ruining the hobby for everyone.I've enjoyed spending time with Alexis twice, and would do so more often if I lived in Knoxville. Sadly, I only got to see Barbie once (my first ever venture into the hobby). I've seen a few other girls since then in other cities. NONE of them comes close to Alexis or Barbie. NOT ANYWHERE IN THE VICINITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF CLOSE. (I never tried the Alexis-Barbie combo. Didn't think my heart could take it!)
Alexis, I look forward to making a trip to Knoxville very soon.
Sexhoundtn2
09-12-11, 18:13
I was ripped off by someone I seen before, This may be my last post I think I'm quitting the hobby. I was always so respectful and carefully, I thought that this was impossible for me.
Well its been great.
"don't pick up any candy near ut especially if its 25yo"Hey Freaks, it sounds as if you are saying that TnCandy roped you off. Whether that is the case or not you need to clarify. If that is your angle I for one would have to question that. I have saw Candy many times anf had no issues at all. Always unrushed and accommodating. YMMV. But I hope like hell thats not the case.
Member #4178
09-15-11, 19:37
Has anyone else noticed that the search function is practically worthless? You can be on a thread and see a name there (let's use "Jeanie" as an example) ; if you search that thread to find Jeanie (maybe to see if there are other reports about her) , often you will get a nothing found result, even though you could SEE her name there on the page you searched from. So is it me, or is it the search function?
Member #6355
09-16-11, 05:08
Has anyone else noticed that the search function is practically worthless? You can be on a thread and see a name there (let's use "Jeanie" as an example) ; if you search that thread to find Jeanie (maybe to see if there are other reports about her) , often you will get a nothing found result, even though you could SEE her name there on the page you searched from. So is it me, or is it the search function?The internal search engine here is kind of hit-or-miss. What I find works better is to go all the way out to google, then do a search for the terms you want, with a plus sign in front of each, plus "usasexguide". Then click on the "cached" link at the end of the search, and you'll probably find what you're looking for, albeit in a flat, non-interactive format. If necessary, you can then come back here and find the entry you need based on the date in the cached file. It's a little extra work, but I've found lots of useful nuggets this way.
Another Google trick: to only search within a given website, enter "site:usasexguide. Info" as part of your search request. Or for that matter, site:[any site you want to search].
The internal search engine here is kind of hit-or-miss. What I find works better is to go all the way out to google, then do a search for the terms you want, with a plus sign in front of each, plus "usasexguide". Then click on the "cached" link at the end of the search, and you'll probably find what you're looking for, albeit in a flat, non-interactive format. If necessary, you can then come back here and find the entry you need based on the date in the cached file. It's a little extra work, but I've found lots of useful nuggets this way.
Member #4178
09-16-11, 17:59
The internal search engine here is kind of hit-or-miss. What I find works better is to go all the way out to google, then do a search for the terms you want, with a plus sign in front of each, plus "usasexguide". Then click on the "cached" link at the end of the search, and you'll probably find what you're looking for, albeit in a flat, non-interactive format. If necessary, you can then come back here and find the entry you need based on the date in the cached file. It's a little extra work, but I've found lots of useful nuggets this way.
Another Google trick: to only search within a given website, enter "site:usasexguide. Info" as part of your search request. Or for that matter, site:[any site you want to search].Thanks guys. Good tips; too bad the search on this site doesn't work better!
Has anyone else noticed that the search function is practically worthless? You can be on a thread and see a name there (let's use "Jeanie" as an example) ; if you search that thread to find Jeanie (maybe to see if there are other reports about her) , often you will get a nothing found result, even though you could SEE her name there on the page you searched from. So is it me, or is it the search function?I think the default search only looks at subject lines (or maybe excludes them). It's better if you do the advanced search so you can check all the boxes for the search options. Still, the Google solution is probably best if you can have multiple tabs open.
It's a dream of mine to find that diamond in the rough. You know the kind. That housewife who is hiding a tiger underneath her prim and proper exterior. Maybe she just wants to let off steam (and I'm more than willing to take a steambath). Anyway, I ran across an ad the other day about a little lady in Loudon who was offering massages and maybe more. Thinking about all that, I dozed off and dreamed that I sent her an email and got a response that she massaged and would finish with a BJ or fuck if there was a tip involved. Being the curious type, I asked how much tip she expected and she said $20 or $30. Now, my dreamself is never one to pass up a bargain, so I jumped on my magic carpet and headed down to Loudon. After some confusion with the directions (she didn't seem to know how to get to her own house) , I arrived to find a 40ish lady who could best be described as a smaller bbw. A bit hippy, but I'm a fan of a good cushion, so I ventured inside. Before the door was even closed, she was stripping off, and led me naked (I was still fully clothed) to her messy bedroom. I must have had some spicy pizza, because the dream was kind of weird. Lots of family pictures sitting around.
She she had not said five words to me when she lay on the bed and spread her legs wide."want to go?" she said. I started to take off my shirt when my nostrils were filled with a rancid odor of unwashed cooze. I dare say that a piece of salmon left out in the August sun for three days would not smell worse. My dick shrank like I had just dipped in an artic pool. I threw up a little in my mouth.
I reached in my pocket and grabbed a twenty. Laid it carefully on the bed and said,"Sorry, I can't do this," (and not wanting to hurt her feelings, I added)"too nervous. Too guilty." I hurried for the door.
I woke up and the smell from the dream still haunted me. An altogether unpleasant casual encounter.
I admire your courage. Sorry about the nightmare.
It's a dream of mine to find that diamond in the rough. You know the kind. That housewife who is hiding a tiger underneath her prim and proper exterior. Maybe she just wants to let off steam (and I'm more than willing to take a steambath). Anyway, I ran across an ad the other day about a little lady in Loudon who was offering massages and maybe more. Thinking about all that, I dozed off and dreamed that I sent her an email and got a response that she massaged and would finish with a BJ or fuck if there was a tip involved. Being the curious type, I asked how much tip she expected and she said $20 or $30. Now, my dreamself is never one to pass up a bargain, so I jumped on my magic carpet and headed down to Loudon. After some confusion with the directions (she didn't seem to know how to get to her own house) , I arrived to find a 40ish lady who could best be described as a smaller bbw. A bit hippy, but I'm a fan of a good cushion, so I ventured inside. Before the door was even closed, she was stripping off, and led me naked (I was still fully clothed) to her messy bedroom. I must have had some spicy pizza, because the dream was kind of weird. Lots of family pictures sitting around.
She she had not said five words to me when she lay on the bed and spread her legs wide."want to go?" she said. I started to take off my shirt when my nostrils were filled with a rancid odor of unwashed cooze. I dare say that a piece of salmon left out in the August sun for three days would not smell worse. My dick shrank like I had just dipped in an artic pool. I threw up a little in my mouth.
I reached in my pocket and grabbed a twenty. Laid it carefully on the bed and said,"Sorry, I can't do this," (and not wanting to hurt her feelings, I added)"too nervous. Too guilty." I hurried for the door.
I woke up and the smell from the dream still haunted me. An altogether unpleasant casual encounter.
Sorry about your foul experience diamond mining in Loudon. I applaud your sense of adventure. I've done the same, wa too many times with failures.
I have had some success at this, and am happy to share one 35-year-old Blount County horn dog with trusted members. 6.5 to 7 on the looks scale, at least the las time I saw her. Her performance will rise or fall to that of her massage client.
PM me if interested.
Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and / or use my competitor's website (s).
Thanks,
Jackson
Jackson,
I apologize for any offense in my post asking about another site. I guess I never viewed you as "competitors". I attempt to use every resource available to find the information I need to keep myself (and my hobby) safe, which means I use many different sites, and obviously I have a certain affinity for this one given the number and frequency of my postings. It's the same reason that I try to regularly click on advertising links from your site. I know that it is helpful for you, and since I feel that you are providing an invaluable service to our mongering community generating some activity to your ad sponsors is the least that any visitor can do to show some appreciation. In fact, while I am on the subject I will take a moment to exhort my fellow members to do the same. After all, it's the only way to keep this site online, and free for all of us!
My apologies again.
Stay safe.
Shy.
Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and / or use my competitor's website (s).
Thanks,
Jackson
I admire your courage. Sorry about the nightmare.Always get a smile when trying to catch up and fine something worthwhile haha. Good thing he didn't have his fishing lic this day.
Gypsy Monger
09-26-11, 19:41
Have any fellow mongers ever used escortdater website real similar to BP and CL just wondered, never saw it mentioned here.
Hello, fellow mongers.
I am passing through and will be staying Friday night in your fine city. Since I have never been to Knoxville, any suggestions on which part of town to stay in that is most convenient to the preferred providers would be appreciated. I have read through your threads and have determined that the following ladies should result in a very fine time. Ava / veronica, Alexis, Lovely, Annabella. I would appreciate any guidance or updates on these ladies that you can give me, or suggestions on any other fine lady who you think would be a good selection. Age does not matter, though a more expereinced mid 30s-40s would be preferred. I would also prefer outcall or a good massage provider, perhaps with extras. Please PM me if you are more comfortable that way. If anyone ever travels to Charleston, I will try to return the favor.
On another note, I see Sugarbaby advertised in the escort classified ads in Knoxville. Here is a link to some reviews from August from her short visit to Columbia, SC.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4704-Escort-Classified-Ads-Member-Discussions&highlight=sugarbaby
I'm going to MB next week for golf and fun!
Anyone have any good providers or (forums used for that area) they want to pass my way?
PM me if you like! Appreciate any and all recommendations and I know YMMV. These days!
Thanks!
Hello, fellow mongers.
I am passing through and will be staying Friday night in your fine city. Since I have never been to Knoxville, any suggestions on which part of town to stay in that is most convenient to the preferred providers would be appreciated. I have read through your threads and have determined that the following ladies should result in a very fine time. Ava / veronica, Alexis, Lovely, Annabella. I would appreciate any guidance or updates on these ladies that you can give me, or suggestions on any other fine lady who you think would be a good selection. Age does not matter, though a more expereinced mid 30s-40s would be preferred. I would also prefer outcall or a good massage provider, perhaps with extras. Please PM me if you are more comfortable that way. If anyone ever travels to Charleston, I will try to return the favor.
On another note, I see Sugarbaby advertised in the escort classified ads in Knoxville. Here is a link to some reviews from August from her short visit to Columbia, SC.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4704-Escort-Classified-Ads-Member-Discussions&highlight=sugarbabyJust wanted to say thanks to all who responded to my request. I have 4-5 good candidates, but trying to get a room is a *****. Most hotels with rooms undr $100 oar booked.
Chessi69
UpForItNow
10-06-11, 16:34
Just wanted to say thanks to all who responded to my request. I have 4-5 good candidates, but trying to get a room is a. Most hotels with rooms undr $100 oar booked.
Chessi69It's a football weekend, and they all jack up their prices. I am also a traveler and have run into that in Knoxville several times during fall weekends. If you stay through Sunday, the prices will drop.
Member #4178
10-10-11, 15:37
So I'm going on a business trip early next year to Las Vegas (with significant other) , and am hoping to grab an afternoon or 2 away from the business action to really "get down to business"! The question is: do I save up the $$ and go for a "once in a lifetime" experience with one of my favorite porn stars (usually runs around a grand, for the higher profile girls) , or have a couple dreams about lower $$ but well reviewed girls?
Feel free to either post here or PM me with thoughts and / or recommendations.
Thanks!
TPP
So I'm going on a business trip early next year to Las Vegas (with significant other) , and am hoping to grab an afternoon or 2 away from the business action to really "get down to business"! The question is: do I save up the $$ and go for a "once in a lifetime" experience with one of my favorite porn stars (usually runs around a grand, for the higher profile girls) , or have a couple dreams about lower $$ but well reviewed girls?
Feel free to either post here or PM me with thoughts and / or recommendations.
Thanks!
TPPIt seems to me that's a question you have to answer for yourself.
My own opinion, it's not worth it.
You can turn off the lights and / or close your eyes and then she's just another fuck hole.
Some of the best BJs I've ever had in my life have been with a local SW who charges $30 for BBBJ.
She's not much to look at. A 2 or 3 at best, but damn she can suck some dick.
One of the best fucks I've ever had was with another SW who charged $50 for pussy.
Again, it's a call you have to make yourself.
If you're really willing to drop a grand on a super hot piece of ass and you have the money, then sure, go for it.
But do it knowing that you can get something that would probably be just as good of a fuck for a fraction of that.
So I'm going on a business trip early next year to Las Vegas (with significant other) , and am hoping to grab an afternoon or 2 away from the business action to really "get down to business"! The question is: do I save up the $$ and go for a "once in a lifetime" experience with one of my favorite porn stars (usually runs around a grand, for the higher profile girls) , or have a couple dreams about lower $$ but well reviewed girls?
Feel free to either post here or PM me with thoughts and / or recommendations.
Thanks!
TPPPup, I have to agree with Anksgf. It's your call, but it would not be worth it to me. (Although Christy Canyon could probably make me change my mind) Also, remember, there's a reason the Porn business has "Fluffers." The on-screen porn stars often don't the skills or the interest in the actual sex. They are "actresses."
Member #4178
10-10-11, 19:30
It seems to me that's a question you have to answer for yourself.
My own opinion, it's not worth it.
You can turn off the lights and / or close your eyes and then she's just another fuck hole.
Some of the best BJs I've ever had in my life have been with a local SW who charges $30 for BBBJ.
She's not much to look at. A 2 or 3 at best, but damn she can suck some dick.
One of the best fucks I've ever had was with another SW who charged $50 for pussy.
Again, it's a call you have to make yourself.
If you're really willing to drop a grand on a super hot piece of ass and you have the money, then sure, go for it.
But do it knowing that you can get something that would probably be just as good of a fuck for a fraction of that.
Pup, I have to agree with Anksgf. It's your call, but it would not be worth it to me. (Although Christy Canyon could probably make me change my mind) Also, remember, there's a reason the Porn business has "Fluffers." The on-screen porn stars often don't the skills or the interest in the actual sex. They are "actresses."Interesting. I really enjoy the whole GFE thing. While I "know" that the whole experience is just a fantasy (This is just a job for these women) ; I like the kissing, sensual, erotic experience a lot more than the "I'm just here to fill a need" experience, and tend to not look at them as just a place to store my dick until I cum. I know that there are certainly a lot of hobbyists who wouldn't agree with me (and it sounds like you two are among them) , but I think there are others that enjoy more than "just another fuck hole" and enjoy having the lights on and looking at what they're sticking their dick into (FZ strikes me as one)! So I guess that leads us to "Does anyone have any specific experience with a provider in Las Vegas that they would recommend?" and "Has anyone on the boards seen a pornstar, and would you be willing to share / review your experience?"
Thanks again!
So I'm going on a business trip early next year to Las Vegas (with significant other) , and am hoping to grab an afternoon or 2 away from the business action to really "get down to business"! The question is: do I save up the $$ and go for a "once in a lifetime" experience with one of my favorite porn stars (usually runs around a grand, for the higher profile girls) , or have a couple dreams about lower $$ but well reviewed girls?
Feel free to either post here or PM me with thoughts and / or recommendations.
Thanks!
TPPAnswer these questions: Will I wish I had if I never get this opportunity again? Will it haunt me? Will the realization that the fantasy is better than the reality give me regrets? Will doing it once make the itch "itchier"?
I for one have to scratch my itches, even if it leaves them raw and sore some times. (that's a bug bite metaphor, not an STD metaphor)
Whatever you decide, have fun and be safe. And good luck with your more mundane pursuits.
So I'm going on a business trip early next year to Las Vegas (with significant other) , and am hoping to grab an afternoon or 2 away from the business action to really "get down to business"! The question is: do I save up the $$ and go for a "once in a lifetime" experience with one of my favorite porn stars (usually runs around a grand, for the higher profile girls) , or have a couple dreams about lower $$ but well reviewed girls?
Feel free to either post here or PM me with thoughts and / or recommendations.
Thanks!
TPPAnswer these questions: Will I wish I had if I never get this opportunity again? Will it haunt me? Will the realization that the fantasy is better than the reality give me regrets? Will doing it once make the itch "itchier"?
I for one have to scratch my itches, even if it leaves them raw and sore some times. (that's a bug bite metaphor, not an STD metaphor)
Whatever you decide, have fun and be safe. And good luck with your more mundane pursuits.
RandddomGuy
10-11-11, 00:28
Interesting. I really enjoy the whole GFE thing. While I "know" that the whole experience is just a fantasy (This is just a job for these women) ; I like the kissing, sensual, erotic experience a lot more than the "I'm just here to fill a need" experience, and tend to not look at them as just a place to store my dick until I cum. I know that there are certainly a lot of hobbyists who wouldn't agree with me (and it sounds like you two are among them) , but I think there are others that enjoy more than "just another fuck hole" and enjoy having the lights on and looking at what they're sticking their dick into (FZ strikes me as one)! So I guess that leads us to "Does anyone have any specific experience with a provider in Las Vegas that they would recommend?" and "Has anyone on the boards seen a pornstar, and would you be willing to share / review your experience?"
Thanks again!I have seen two Las Vegas providers. Joay French and Devani Larose. Both have websites that I'm sure a quick google search will help you find. Both are GFE and are very good at what they do. Both are also extremely intelligent women, so if you're one of those who like a conversationalist as well, you could do much worse than these two. Joay is a little older, and Devani is a little thicker, but if neither of those two things bother you, I would recommend either one of these ladies (especially Devani. Probably My ATF.) Any questions, just shoot me a PM.
Pup, let me clarify what I said earlier: I absolutely agree with you that the Girlfriend Experience is the best. I don't' want just a "hole to fill." To me, the kissing, touching, foreplay and interaction is what makes it good. So. I'm with you on that. I guess I let my own economic issues come through in my response. I cannot imagine spending a grand on a one time thing. (Maybe if I won the lottery). But I just can't rationalize it. Also, I've been fortunate enough to find some great GFE's in the past for much, much less money. So I don't have that desire to spend more. But (and it's a BIG BUT) , this is your fantasy, not mine. So I should have been more clear that it's really your decision. If you've got the money and the desire. Then GO FOR IT (and review it well for us poor brothers back here in East TN). Good luck, and I sincerely hope it lives up to all your expectations!
Well, for my clarification.
Yeah, I'm pretty much just looking for a fuck hole.
Even if I had the money to drop a grand on a "GFE" it just isn't worth it to me.
Especially knowing that it's totally fake.
Over the years, I've kissed and cuddled with a couple of working girls, but they were girls I'd known for a while and while I think it was actually genuine, at least with one of them, I sure as hell didn't pay her a grand for the experience.
Member #6355
10-11-11, 11:38
A good friend and I caught a distinct odor of pork just off the Campbell Station exit this morning. I'd advise extreme caution in that area.
You only live once and that life is short. If you have the means to do so (even if just barely) , shoot for the stars and live out your dreams! I'm pretty sure you won't regret it but there's a good chance you will regret it if you pass on the opportunity.
Just got back from there. Had a horrible experience with a couple of young and very pretty con-artist agency girls. I've left a review on the MB BP thread. I also have the digits of an older (approx 40) girl who's average at best in the looks department but a very eager and willing GFE. Take out from the night clubs is also now a very viable option.
I'm going to MB next week for golf and fun!
Anyone have any good providers or (forums used for that area) they want to pass my way?
PM me if you like! Appreciate any and all recommendations and I know YMMV. These days!
Thanks!
A good friend and I caught a distinct odor of pork just off the Campbell Station exit this morning. I'd advise extreme caution in that area.Is there a stroll in that area or you talking about BP girls?
Member #4178
10-11-11, 14:29
Answer these questions: Will I wish I had if I never get this opportunity again? Will it haunt me? Will the realization that the fantasy is better than the reality give me regrets? Will doing it once make the itch "itchier"?
I for one have to scratch my itches, even if it leaves them raw and sore some times. (that's a bug bite metaphor, not an STD metaphor)
Whatever you decide, have fun and be safe. And good luck with your more mundane pursuits.
You only live once and that life is short. If you have the means to do so (even if just barely) , shoot for the stars and live out your dreams! I'm pretty sure you won't regret it but there's a good chance you will regret it if you pass on the opportunity.Thanks guys, this is kinda what I'm thinking, but there are some very well reviewed providers on another site for $$$-$$$$$, too, and so the question I have to answer is: 1 tryst or possibly 2 or 3?
I have seen two Las Vegas providers. Joay French and Devani Larose. Both have websites that I'm sure a quick google search will help you find. Both are GFE and are very good at what they do. Both are also extremely intelligent women, so if you're one of those who like a conversationalist as well, you could do much worse than these two. Joay is a little older, and Devani is a little thicker, but if neither of those two things bother you, I would recommend either one of these ladies (especially Devani. Probably My ATF.) Any questions, just shoot me a PM.And this is what I'm looking for, thanks for the suggestions! Neither of these ladies particularly floats my boat, but the suggestions and reviews are exactly on target!
I'm sorry to say there's no stroll that far west my man. I wish there were in fact.
Stay Safe.
Shy.
Is there a stroll in that area or you talking about BP girls?
Dr Holiday
10-11-11, 16:27
I'm sorry to say there's no stroll that far west my man. I wish there were in fact.
Stay Safe.
Shy.Places where traveling girls and in call types tend to congregate. While back there was more leo around the hotels off cedar bluff than guests in rooms. Caught several of the local. Went down the street a little bit. Busted some more in an apt complex.
First Dude1968
10-11-11, 16:59
A good friend and I caught a distinct odor of pork just off the Campbell Station exit this morning. I'd advise extreme caution in that area.You posted this and today this ad appears: one day only at Campbell's Station.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/in-town-1-day-only-miami-heat-i-will-knock-you-off-your-feet-20/4448027
Anyone smell something fishy? Or bacon-why?
Places where traveling girls and in call types tend to congregate. While back there was more leo around the hotels off cedar bluff than guests in rooms. Caught several of the local. Went down the street a little bit. Busted some more in an apt complex.I've been told both but don't really know.
I worked for a chain of convenience stores that has a store in that area that had outside restrooms.
They closed the restrooms to the public, in part because hoes were supposedly turning tricks in them.
Conversely, a guy I worked with who lives out that way said that was bullshit and he'd never seen any hoes out there.
From my personal experience a girl who's willing to get on her knees in a public restroom is going to be a SW and yet there's supposedly no stroll down that way.
It's not my part of town and so I don't really know but I would think there would at least be some girls working the truck stops off of I-40.
I tried to post this up in a new thread but the forum wouldn't let me and so this seemed like the best existing thread to post in.
I've mostly hung out with SWs, but I'm wondering where are some good places to look online?
Since Craigslist killed off their adult services categories, Backpage seems to be the place to go but I'm sure there has to be more out there.
Dr Holiday
10-12-11, 06:18
I've been told both but don't really know.
I worked for a chain of convenience stores that has a store in that area that had outside restrooms.
They closed the restrooms to the public, in part because hoes were supposedly turning tricks in them.
Conversely, a guy I worked with who lives out that way said that was bullshit and he'd never seen any hoes out there.
From my personal experience a girl who's willing to get on her knees in a public restroom is going to be a SW and yet there's supposedly no stroll down that way.
It's not my part of town and so I don't really know but I would think there would at least be some girls working the truck stops off of I-40.I live out that way too and agree with the other guy. BS about the convenience stores. No stroll. This is the posh end of town. Rich burbs. LEO generally no tolerance for working girls in such places.
Now there were lizards that worked the truck stop. One used to contact them via CB radio. Truckers complained some years back about the lot lizards knocking on trucks so much they couldn't rest. At that point leo swept them up.
Second leo sweep was when the strip club was across the freeway from one of the been stops. Girls were creating traffic hazard running across I 40. That caused leo to sweep them up again too.
Been awhile since I heard about the stops.
A good friend and I caught a distinct odor of pork just off the Campbell Station exit this morning. I'd advise extreme caution in that area.Everyone should check the knox county sheriff, s website. 24 hr arrest. One black pimp and 4 or five working girls are posted. Does anyone think these are BP girls. Talk about posting fake pics.
You posted this and today this ad appears: one day only at Campbell's Station.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/in-town-1-day-only-miami-heat-i-will-knock-you-off-your-feet-20/4448027
Anyone smell something fishy? Or bacon-why?Yeah, that ad looks legit LOL. Everyone knows all the ladies put "willing to negotiate" in their ad. Plus, the pics come up on Google as model Jay Carter. Here's the links:
http://www.wix.com/msjaycarter/jayc#!
http://www.wix.com/msjaycarter/jayc#! Portfolio / vstc2=slide-3.
Whether it's a sting or just a scam, it's bullshit either way, so steer clear.
Stay safe.
Shy
Thebossmro
10-12-11, 12:15
Everyone should check the knox county sheriff, s website. 24 hr arrest. One black pimp and 4 or five working girls are posted. Does anyone think these are BP girls. Talk about posting fake pics.One of them I recognize she just posted on BP yesterday so not all the girls picked up are street walkers. I checked and her ad is down today so I do not know if she got busted off her ad or not she is from out of town just west of here off of I-40. I had seen her before about 8 or 9 months ago she was ok but she was a older lady. Be care full out there everyone.
Thebossmro
10-12-11, 12:19
Everyone should check the knox county sheriff, s website. 24 hr arrest. One black pimp and 4 or five working girls are posted. Does anyone think these are BP girls. Talk about posting fake pics.Actually I take that back her ad is still up so I would stay away.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-couger-38/4447292
Gypsy Monger
10-12-11, 20:32
I tried to post this up in a new thread but the forum wouldn't let me and so this seemed like the best existing thread to post in.
I've mostly hung out with SWs, but I'm wondering where are some good places to look online?
Since Craigslist killed off their adult services categories, Backpage seems to be the place to go but I'm sure there has to be more out there.Try escortdater.com
Luv Streets
10-12-11, 22:12
Hi guys,
I'm passing through and at hotel for the night on the west side. Couple miles from exit 369. Looking for an outcall. Anyone have any info on someone that can provide for. 7?
PM ME if you need to. Tried crusing the t / s but nothing was out (or I didn't see it being that I'm in my car) TONIGHT ONLY please HELP!
I am going to be in Maryville tomorrow, last minute thing. I can get away for a bit, but not for long. Does anyone have any recommendations for the area that a guy could have fun at? Thanks if anyone does.
Hi guys,
I'm passing through and at hotel for the night on the west side. Couple miles from exit 369. Looking for an outcall. Anyone have any info on someone that can provide for. 7?
PM ME if you need to. Tried crusing the t / s but nothing was out (or I didn't see it being that I'm in my car) TONIGHT ONLY please HELP!You need to ask for info like that well in advance.
If you're looking for "tonight only," well, by the time you post, a moderator sees and approves your post and then someone else sees it and can give you some #s, it's going to be long past "TONIGHT ONLY. '
Dr Holiday
10-15-11, 15:11
In Turkey creek area. Can't find story to confirm yet. One caught a lawyer?
You need to ask for info like that well in advance.
If you're looking for "tonight only," well, by the time you post, a moderator sees and approves your post and then someone else sees it and can give you some #s, it's going to be long past "TONIGHT ONLY. 'Unless you are Senior Member then your posts appear immediately (without admin approval).
Sexhoundtn2
10-18-11, 09:44
Hello friends and fellow mongers. I've been very busy and have a saw any body lately. I think I would like to see someone new. So have a question for you guys and you can answer it here or pm if you don't want to offend any of your women friends. If you could see any of local or frequently traveling providers and rates were not an influence who would it be and why? And why were on the subject there was a hispanic girl the traveled a couple of times in and I missed her. She was really short I think like 5 foot tall but had a huge booty. I think it was michelle or something like that but I can't find her and she was definitely on my to do list. Answers to either one of these would be helpful and I will report back with the details.
Hound
In Turkey creek area. Can't find story to confirm yet. One caught a lawyer?That kind of sounds like BS to me.
Turkey Creek isn't exactly known as a stroll.
Also, that big of a sting, in a ritzy part of town would have made the news.
At the very least it would have been in the paper and for whatever reason, WVLT just loves to do stories on the stings.
I'm not sure if there was a recent sting or not but I was just skimming through a list of newly arrived guests of KCSO.
I saw several familiar faces, including three girls I personally know.
One may or may not be a SW, I never knew for sure but I hooked up with her a few times earlier this year.
I ended it because she was batshit crazy.
She's now in jail on an aggravated assault charge with a $10, 000 bond.
The other two are SWs and in on the usual charges. Prostitution, simple possession, possession of paraphernalia, VOP, etc.
Possession is one that makes me nervous because I once hooked up with a girl, dropped her back at her motel and went on about my business.
About 3 days later, I found her crack pipe under the passenger seat in my car.
I'm sure she didn't intend to leave it there, it just fell out of the pocket of the thin cotton, cut up to her ass ho shorts she had on.
However, had I been busted with it, they would have never believed that it wasn't mine.
The cop would have been like, yeah, that's what they all say.
Be careful guys, it's a jungle out there.
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