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Table Shower

12-03-07, 17:52

Decided to give Mayspa a try today. Easy location in Waltham, plenty of parking, not a seedy location. Was met by Annie, who is pleasant and quite attractive. My appt was with May, who was also attractive, taller, nice rack.

Tables are heated and there is some piped in music. .6 up front for an hour.

May gave a very good massage and would appear to be trained. Good pressure, nice and high in the thighs. Some casual brushing, but nothing more. On the flip, again, high in the thighs. No HE or indication that she was waiting to be negotiated. Heated towels and a wipe of the oil are always nice. But a decent massage and a 7 on my scale.

It was my impression that HE were not condoned here but that if you became a regular and gained her confidence, you could. YMMV.

I do plan to make a few more visits just to see if what others said was possible, materializes. Worst case is a good massage at a decent price.

Overall,
Looks/Body - 7
Massage - 7
Finish - 0

I agree with this review of May. Exact same kind of massage treatment I had, as well as the resistance on the ending. But even though it was my first visit, I did build enough confidence in asking her for a nice finish as the massage time was reaching its end. It took a little convincing, being kind of suave asking for it, but it was able to happen. She was pretty hesitant about it and even made me close my eyes but it was all good.

Table Shower

12-03-07, 17:57

After some deliberation, I decided to give Mayspa a second try. This visit, I tried May. My thinking was that Annie, being the manager, cannot provide extras, since the consequences of being caught are higher (mgt can't claim they didn't know what was going on behind closed doors).

Anyway, May gets my stamp of approval. May is about 30 and attractice with nice curves. Her massage was solid. She was nice and friendly - charming is the word that comes to mind. The finish was very good. I've had better but many worse.

I will definitely see May again.

She got my stamp of approval also. Agree with your opinion of the finish as well. It's not the same kind as other places but her resistancy and a sort of different style with it made it a nice experience.

Street Seeker

12-03-07, 20:36

Hey SS, looks like you and I would compete for daily visits..lol

That's what this board is all about and gald to see you enjoyed,; for me, that 2 pop visit leaves me like cooked spaghetti.

Take care and stay safe

Well...I am going to campaigne to have her move to Nashville so I can have her all to myself...LOL

Shooter6

12-03-07, 23:58

Got a massage from Stacy. Good looking, nice little body with a decent rack for her size. Wore leather mini.completely superficial massage, she yawned several times and seemed to be interested in everything but the massage. Kept moving to the door to try to hear what mamasan was saying in the next room. Pretty good hr, she asks at the flip what you will tip her. Cute girl, good hr, disinterested massage. 7 +. 4.

Tim S

12-04-07, 16:16

Upon hearing all the rave reviews, and actually having time to slip away, I went to see Leeza in Westborough today. As everyone said, she is amazing. She has some of the nicest hands I have ever felt, and she knows how to use them. She is very amicable, has a nice smile, and makes you feel completely at ease. I didn't see any massage-training certificate, but I may have missed it, because it seems like she has been professionaly trained. All I can say is that if you enjoy a FBSM, she is one you need to make the time to see. Lucky for me, she is only 20 minutes away

Oh, I think I won a few of you guys some points. I mentioned that I heard about her here, and she asked me "from who? " I said that I didn't know your real name, but she then said to me was it something like Coast something? And I said yeah, Coast Hog! And then she asked if one of the people I read said he used to see her in NY, and I said yeah, that is one too. She thought it was great that people were talking positvely about her, and therefore, she is getting clientele because of it. I for one am certain to repeat. I actually live TOO close, because I have a feeling I'll visit TOO much!

Enjoy guys, just be respectiful, because she is. I believe one of you said that if you let her do her thing you will enjoy it immensely, and that hits the nail on the head.

Ilovenola

12-04-07, 16:24

On recomendation I saw Coco at Forever young. She satisfied all my concerns from my post below. A little far for me, but that's probably a good thing. There was another petite, pacific islander looking girl there that I'd love to give a try as well. Anyone know her name and if she's worth it?

Chick Digger

12-04-07, 20:41

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Asian E

12-04-07, 21:41

I'm interested in checking this one out. They post a few times a day on CL

Anybody have a review?

Thanks

Member #4196

12-05-07, 09:51

Silver Rex

12-05-07, 10:35

I'm interested in checking this one out. They post a few times a day on CL

Anybody have a review?

ThanksIts hit or miss, they change the girl every two week or so.

Chick Digger

12-05-07, 19:13

As a few have described here before, there is an MP on Galen St that is incredibly shady-looking on the outside and has deterred me from entering.

Well today I finally got around to noticing their CL posts and putting 2+2 together (their post = Thai massage discussed here)

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ths/491339442.html

Curiosity got the best of me, and I wanted to see where their CL photos were hosted. So I followed the 3 currently-active CL post photos back to. KATOEY sites!

For those of you not familiar with the term, Katoey generally means transgendered, as in male-now-female. Or just an incredibly feminine Thai boy.

Needless to say, if you're looking for a FEMALE masseuse, you may want to look elsewhere. Because there's a good chance there's only "dudes not chicks in 'da house! "Anyone been here before? I called and the lady was a little rude on the phone. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Teejay

12-05-07, 23:58

don't Bother this week. The girl is a 5 all around at best. Rushes, not great looking and detached service. I'd love to hear from guys who try this place so we all don't have to experience the duds.

I'm interested in checking this one out. They post a few times a day on CL

Anybody have a review?

Thanks

Phuqued

12-06-07, 01:25

I had a visit with Leeza today. She is an attractive middle-aged Brazilian woman. She definitely knows how to use her hands. 1. per half, and 1.5 per hour. The one-hour session includes the option of two HR. There are not any other options. There isn't any serious ass-play, TTBOMK. Light roaming above the bra and pants is permitted. (I asked, politely.) She will not remove any clothing.

Leeza is friendly, but also very business-like. Amy in Quincy seems flirtatious in comparison. (I'm serious.) Leeza shook my hand when I arrived and when I left. However, Leeza's massage is like body-worship. I shot a load like a porn star. It shot so far that it hit her (and I wasn't aiming!). I've been to countless massage therapists, and very few people can massage like this. Leeza's massage skills are comparable to Sharon in STL, for those few lucky bastards that have met her.

Leeza didn't watch the clock. She told me that she does not book clients back-to-back. After the massage, she cleaned me with hot towels.

She has a ritual; just go with it.

Pornlover2222

12-06-07, 10:49

Newbie here! Has anyone TOFTT at "Traditional Chinese Bodyworks" in Malden?
Any info would be appreciated.

Tapper

12-06-07, 17:11

I've been at the Wellesley Ceder st place twice now with disapointing results. Sara, who I had both times was very suspicious of me as much as I tried to reassure her that I was who I said I was. It was tough to understand her as well. Anyone have a success there? Thay may have been spooked but I haven't read anything lately. Has anyone had any luck there.

AsianLPGAfan

12-06-07, 19:39

AsianLPGAfan

12-06-07, 19:45

Pornlover2222

12-06-07, 20:09

Just a quick review of the Spa in Revere. Paid the fee and was led into a warm room. Changed and led to a great steam. A few minutes later a tiny, VERY cute young lady got me out of the steam and onto the TS. TS was exceptional and sauna was very warm. Hit the massage table to an absolutely incredible massage. She spent a lot of time working out all of the kinks. Even walked on my back! One of the best massages I have ever had. No expert here, but I must say I had a great time, excellent service and I will most definitely repeat.

Dan Wesson

12-06-07, 20:41

Leeza's massage is like body-worship.I live in the Westboro area...this sounds just WAY too good to pass up.

Good review Phuqued.

Rufus617

12-07-07, 01:32

I was there once. Like the old grove st place it was trick or treat.

There was fast turnover at times if you found someone you liked she would be gone. Extras are to be had at their usual level of prices but I haven't been there since summer.

If there was someone you liked simply call and ask if you do it a few times they will call you back if '' so and so'' is working.

At the grove place I got a courtesy call or 2 asking if I wanted to come by to see who I asked. And did take them up on the offer.

I went to this place a few weeks ago. I don't remember the girl's name, but she was very attractive - thin, B cups, wearing a sexy red slip/nightgown with no panties on. Turn off for me was a full bush - not even trimmed.

I don't remember exactly what I paid, but I did ask for hh instead of h and at first she said yes for [don't remember price]. She went out then came back after talking to mamasan and said they can't do less than [full price - 80 maybe?]. I was (as everyone on this board) thinking with my little head so I did it. I did not have any more for tip at this point. I assured her I'd be back to see her (lie) and she gave an okay HR. Nothing special... I won't be back.

Someone posted about a month ago about the elevator in this bldg... it was very slow and on my way out, there was a resident holding his laundry, waiting for it. We smiled at each other and said hi as if I lived there too, but I didn't want to ride the elevator with him, so I took the stairs. Of course I got my directions mixed up and had to walk across the building on floor1 and passed him in the hall - lol.

Rufus617

12-07-07, 01:40

There were posts previously.

Jolene may be there. Gives a good massage but I didn't like all the oil she uses. I never been to galen thai place but you would need a major shower to wash off all the oil. Never mind the head games Jolene plays. With she asking you to be her boyfriend. Etc.

I TOFTT last week. I went up the stairs and just opened the door (it was slightly ajar) and a good looking thai girl sat up from the couch. Based on a previous warning post, I intently scrutinized its crotch and neck but did not see a bulge or adam's apple. :)

I hadn't intended to get a massage, I just wanted to give this place the once-over. But, again - the little head.... I talked her down to 50 and told her I'd be quick (wasn't interested in the massage... just the finish).

I can't comment on her oil usage, as I was going straight home so I had her use no oil. I laid on the VERY THIN mattress on the FLOOR in the pseudo-room that was made by hanging two curtains at 90 degree angles to a corner. I started face up, she began to rub my chest then moved down. I started to rub her body which she was okay with. I asked if I could go under her pants but she said no. I said, "c'mon" and she pulled down the front to show the front of her maxipad. Yuck.

I asked for BJ she said no. Well I can't finish without oil so I got on top of her for some bring-back-memories-of-my-teens dry humping. Good view of her chest.

Will not return for these reasons:
- place is sketchy
- there's always traffic on Galen so people are just stopped in front of the place, watching you walk down the stairs
- no privacy
- not high mileage (please no flames about "this is not providence")

Anyway, that's my $.02 on thai watertown.

Aprilia Rsv

12-07-07, 10:03

Leeza didn't watch the clock. She told me that she does not book clients back-to-back. After the massage, she cleaned me with hot towels.

She has a ritual; just go with it.

Went this week as well. Completely agree with your review (saved me some typing). She books a 15min gap in between appointments (at least she did when i was there).

Roaming over bra and pants (ass only), tried like a monkey to get that lab coat looking thing off... she just smiled so i went back to groping her nice rack. A little pricey for a HR (or 2) but the location is safe, easy to get to, and she keeps it VERY warm on cold days.

Will repeat!

WebDog

12-07-07, 15:34

I asked if I could go under her pants but she said no. I said, "c'mon" and she pulled down the front to show the front of her maxipad. Yuck.anything is possible and it could be that it was a biological woman on her period. But I would bet a day's pay that it was a recent convert (post-op) as they need to wear pads during the first 6+ months -- then of course never again.

By the way, you would not see a 'bulge' with the ladybois as it will have been cut out -- no adams apple either. But if the face looks just a tad too angular, that is one give-away.

Jstyre

12-07-07, 16:20

Is massage and FS basicly a myth in this area at the moment? Or do I need to look more?

AsianLPGAfan

12-07-07, 19:47

I also wonder if just putting a maxi on would be a way to keep the roaming limited then with those padded bullet proof bras. Double jeopardy: out of luck.

AsianLPGAfan

12-07-07, 19:56

Cedar st is somewhat a busy street. I was at least pleased to see the entrance on the side. During the summer months the shrubs can provide some needed privacy if you don't want your car noticed.

The building looks like a combo of a warehouse and a college dorm apartment building especially the elevator.

I buzzed the wrong room didn't understand the accent and this russian woman with a baby comes down to see who I was. I m not sure if I would go back unless I had few options that day.

Rito1

12-07-07, 21:02

I don't remember exactly what I paid, but I did ask for hh instead of h and at first she said yes for [don't remember price]. She went out then came back after talking to mamasan and said they can't do less than [full price - 80 maybe?]. I was (as everyone on this board) thinking with my little head so I did it. I did not have any more for tip at this point. I assured her I'd be back to see her (lie) and she gave an okay HR. Nothing special... I won't be back.

How can you not know what you paid? I can see if you forget a name but not how much you spend.

Rufus617

12-07-07, 21:23

How can you not know what you paid? I can see if you forget a name but not how much you spend.

Like I said... I think it was 80

anything is possible and it could be that it was a biological woman on her period. But I would bet a day's pay that it was a recent convert (post-op) as they need to wear pads during the first 6+ months -- then of course never again.

By the way, you would not see a 'bulge' with the ladybois as it will have been cut out -- no adams apple either. But if the face looks just a tad too angular, that is one give-away.

Alright, well in that case I'm glad there was no mileage... add another reason to my list of reasons not to return.

Hayas

12-08-07, 00:06

I went to this place this week, the girl, look is under 5. 5'1, 120 130, 33 34c. No go, no go, folks, wait for next one. Nothing special to report, so, keep it short, I just went in, took shower, then to the main entree, done and leave.

Hayas

Pika Pepper

12-08-07, 01:02

Is massage and FS basicly a myth in this area at the moment? Or do I need to look more?There is plenty of FS to be found at massage places, but not at any of the massage businesses. The place to look is the Asian places that advertise in places like the Phoenix or WeeklyDig and work out of apartments, not ones with big picture ads. These places are usually Chinese and have girls from NYC that rotate every 10 days. The total cost is $160 and is better to pay them the whole wad up front IMHO; if you pay $70 first for the massage, then it is sometimes difficult to get FS for the remaining $90.

Another tactic that I use is to request a lower halfhour rate when I schedule the appointment (usually $50), then if the girl is attractive, I tell her that I want to change to the whole hour because she is so sexy - the flattery backed by money elicits a better performance from her. If she's not attractive, I just save the $20 and go for the lessor expensive HJ, instead of FS.

KapitanKool

12-08-07, 13:33

I went to this place in Arlington yesterday. Called at 8 pm and got through just as they were closing. The woman agreed to wait for me. Was met by a girl called Angela. Not the usual Coco. This one could barely speak English. Said she was from New York and had just got there. I guess they are one of the rotation places. Said she was 36 and could be. Was chatting with her kid in HK. After a table shower that was OK but she could be guided to touch the right places. It was followed by a decent massage. I left feeling more pleased than what I had expected, I think because she was new, and alone and the late hour. Senior members PM me for details.

WebDog

12-08-07, 15:59

There is plenty of FS to be found at massage places, but not at any of the massage businesses. The total cost is $160 and is better to pay them the whole wad up front IMHO
I agree it is much better to seek FS and go to a proven provider first. If you're going to get it was an Asian massage, it is going to be at a fly-by-night operation where the provider is most likely hard-up and wishing she was anywhere else but there (probably including back home by that point).

If you're looking for FS in Mass (or for that matter NH or ME) don't bother looking at an AMP or AAMP. In CT and RI obviously there are great places. Around here, if you want FS along with a massage, looking for a provider who advertises that or otherwise has a proven track record. You're much better dropping $200 on someone one legit vs trying to work your way up to it in tips at an AAMP.

My one and only AAMP FS experience felt like rape and I would never repeat. In contrast, I have had some wonderful fucks with voluntary FS providers, including FBSM + FS for < $200.

Nvrends2007

12-09-07, 16:01

Went to Revere Spa not too long ago and was my 1st visit there.

Was kinda impressed by how clean it was. Blonde at the desk was pretty cute - too bad she wasn't the one givign massages. Opted for TS and massage only. Paid the fee & led to a room.

This Korean woman (med hair, petite & looked like late 20s) came in and told me to change and put on the robe. We chatted for a bit and she told me she was a student studying for nursing. Then she led me to the TS: she seemed a *bit* too methodical and mechanical for my taste..but there is a time limit on the TS so I can understand that. She teased my back a bit and then told me to turn over. Ok, I admit I was pretty aroused at this point. On my front she was again methodical - but at least she held "sparky" and wiggled him back and forth a little lauhing...ok - a bit of good teasing but it kinda broke the ice a bit. Also, it seemed like there was a guy standing outside the frosted glass door "just in case" <-- not sure if you all have experienced this same TS here. I was hoping for more of a soapy immersion than a "car wash" experience....

Then she dryed me off and led me back to the massage room. I took off the robe and got on the table face down. She was taking off her shoes while I was doing this and then started her "massage". I aksed for "hard" and she proceeded to rub and a type of "pushing" on the muscles - ok, fair to say more like a staggered rubbing than anything else. I could stroke the bottom part of legs but she seemed to back away from me a bit when I tried to go higher - but never complained. She worked on my back and legs and then climbed on teh table and sat on my butt. She massaged my back while almost jumping up and down on my but...my guess is to arouse my to finish up early....I was pretty sure I was the last appt. of the day. she then teased by running a finger all over my back and yes, including "sparky" and the "twins" - she said "ok?" "this ok"? I said "oh yeah, it's great...keep going" She did this for a couple of minutes - again, I think she was trying to finish up for the night.

Then she said flip over and she workd my front. Yes, "sparky" was awake and alive and I was smiling and she could tell. She teased sparky and the twins some more and I thought I was going to explode. She could tell so she started with he finish. Ending was ok, but she seemed to use 2 fingers versus her entire hand for the HE and I finished sooner than I had wanted to....oh well...

She cleaned me off, helped me up and helped me dress. Overall a pretty good expeience. I should have tipped her more than what I did ($3) but again, oh well....

I will go again but next time I'll get the entire "package" and then tip in the beginning so we can "set the tone" for the massage. Also, next time I won't schedule a meeting too late in the day - defaintely later afternoon or early evening next time.

Hope this info is of some value. Anyone have similar experience? Anyone I should request?

WebDog

12-09-07, 21:23

I should have tipped her more than what I did ($3) but again, oh well....Can you clarify that amount in plain English?

Nvrends2007

12-09-07, 23:16

Can you clarify that amount in plain English?Tip was $30.

WebDog

12-10-07, 09:59

Tip was $30.
yeah, that is a little light, but I am in favoring of keeping things down a bit.

We have literally the most expensive services and expectations for $$ in the world -- not just within the 3rd world but Europe, et al.

Not only is the U.S. the highest, but within the U.S. *Boston* is the most expensive. Boston is by far more than DC, NYC, PVD, West Coast and certainly higher everywhere I have been in the Southeast/Southwest. How the f@%k did that happen?

I think we have not one to blame but ourselves -- or here is my complicated theory... PVD prices are among the highest nationwide, and locally (up here) we pay those prices or more for less service, because the alternative is driving an hour away. This has an overall inflationary effect that we have taken for granted.

I think we need to reverse this trend. A $30 tip for HR is good any where in the country but here -- and $30 Euro would buy suck-and-fuck in must European countries, and used to buy half/half around here.

I would love to see everyone limit tips to $30 and endure the nasty looks and protests; but if everyone did it, it would become the norm again.

Triesharder

12-10-07, 11:26

yeah, that is a little light, but I am in favoring of keeping things down a bit.

We have literally the most expensive services and expectations for $$ in the world -- not just within the 3rd world but Europe, et al.

Not only is the U.S. the highest, but within the U.S. *Boston* is the most expensive. Boston is by far more than DC, NYC, PVD, West Coast and certainly higher everywhere I have been in the Southeast/Southwest. How the f@%k did that happen?

I think we have not one to blame but ourselves -- or here is my complicated theory... PVD prices are among the highest nationwide, and locally (up here) we pay those prices or more for less service, because the alternative is driving an hour away. This has an overall inflationary effect that we have taken for granted.

I think we need to reverse this trend. A $30 tip for HR is good any where in the country but here -- and $30 Euro would buy suck-and-fuck in must European countries, and used to buy half/half around here.

I would love to see everyone limit tips to $30 and endure the nasty looks and protests; but if everyone did it, it would become the norm again.

Prices in Minneapolis are greater than or equal to here, I think. A hundred bucks just to get into the Revere place for an hour is outrageous too.

WebDog

12-10-07, 12:38

Prices in Minneapolis are greater than or equal to here, I think. A hundred bucks just to get into the Revere place for an hour is outrageous too.I can speak to just about the entire U.S. *except* the upper mid-west. So you may have got me on that.

I agree that $100 is over the top, however, it seems like a growing number of places are trying to get you on the front-end (i.e., $80-$100 vs $50-60) so those cases the tip should be reduced commensurately. Thus $30 shouldn't be too far off -- total of $130 is on the high-end of fair in my opinion, for TS etc. And about $30 too much for your typical AMP experience around here (Angel, et al.)

D8811

12-10-07, 14:36

Pika Pepper

12-10-07, 20:18

I just noticed a couple of ads on CL and in the Phoenix that sound most interesting. One place in Newton (1977) and one in Wellesley (7152). They sound like they are most likely the same place to me.

They advertise Body Shampoo and 24x7 incall service.

Does anyone have any experience with them?They are different. 1977 is almost next door to the old Grove St. place (now on Cedar). The provider is old, ugly, and might be toothless. I fled when I saw her.

7152 is indeed in Wellesley, but have not tried it yet. Linden St. I think.

There is also another new one in Wellesley on Mica St. but is a regular business I think, not apartment girls. Have not tried it yet either.

AsianLPGAfan

12-10-07, 23:13

How can we all unite to drive down prices? These are just ideas thrown out.

1. Boycot for some time days til?

2. Unity. 3 tip limit?

3. Multiple posts to CL on this

4. Call the AMP places and mention all the above.

5. Spend$ on post in phoenix?

6. No more good reviews or reports?

Don't know just putting it out there.

WebDog

12-11-07, 11:16

In all seriousness, for the typical MA AMP experience (of which there seem to be a lot more today) I do suggest keeping tips at $30 max.

There are all kinds of variables involved with escorts and incall services, and SWs are a whole other story.

But the AMP scenario is pretty standard. Susan set a good benchmark at $80 for 2 pops and a real massage.

$80 is a good price for the services rendered and I haven't seen any who are so superior to Susan that they warrant $20-$40 more. But that is what I end up getting guilt-tripped into paying.

But I am going to grow a spine and pay Angel only $80 (inclusive) next time I visit her. We'll see if she kicks me out!

How can we all unite to drive down prices? These are just ideas thrown out.

1. Boycot for some time days til?

2. Unity. 3 tip limit?

3. Multiple posts to CL on this

4. Call the AMP places and mention all the above.

5. Spend$ on post in phoenix?

6. No more good reviews or reports?

Don't know just putting it out there.

Rufus617

12-11-07, 17:45

There is also another new one in Wellesley on Mica St. but is a regular business I think, not apartment girls. Have not tried it yet either.

Looks like there are two places on Mica - same building. One on 1st floor, one on 2nd (actually, according to the building directory, there are two on the 2nd but when I rang the bell on the far one, the door opened on the one closer to the stairs).

No one answered first floor knock.

Second floor - 2 asian women. First did not speak English very well. All she could say was "You want massage?" She got the other girl who told me .35 for hh (lower than I've ever seen). I didn't ask about full h. She said no extras, but I did not stay for the massage and get undressed. Maybe different story later on.

Heck, for .35, I'll definitely TOFTT when I have a chance.

Women were not horribly deformed and ugly, but were definitely not lookers. Don't know if they rotate.

GravelPath

12-11-07, 19:52

In all seriousness, for the typical MA AMP experience (of which there seem to be a lot more today) I do suggest keeping tips at $30 max.Yawn. It seems like this discussion comes up about every month.

For a $70 job I've tipped as high as $50. I'll happily continue to do so when I feel the girl has really spent an hour trying to make me happy.- in fact, I look forward to the day when a girl makes me feel that more is merited.

To me, there is one way to make a good massage even better: walk out the door feeling like a generous person.

AsianLPGAfan

12-11-07, 21:26

You can find services in MA but the full "balanced" package of quality extras / massage has been my challenge. One usually is better at the expense of the other. Maybe my experiences from AMP's in Ct/RI have raised my expectations?

I tried the aamp scene in newton from a few PHx ads rotating gals with varying level of quality/perceived value from my point of view (grove st--- cedar the latest) "trick or treat" another was an aamp near the marriot. There were actually 2 different grove aamps the past few years. Same complex but neighboring buildings.

Yumi in newton near the pike initially a reasonable alternative for what I was expecting to pay but her massage skills for me have declined and she had shortened the sessions to get to the finish. I hope she stops gaining weight.

Jolene the baby oil champion of massages. Jolene actually could give a good massage but way too much oil. After she stopped working out of W Rox I just didn't like the other places. Nothing like feeling soaked in baby oil on a hot sunny day. Maybe I should have tanned before finding a shower! Also she tried talking sweet to me asking me to be her boyfriend and started calling on my cell. Serious boundary issues, but I have heard this was not unusual behavior for her.

Comm Ave area a couple yrs ago I tried a couple of aamp's near harvard ave that I would describe as generic fair massages but adequate HE from cute younger asian gals but not enough to get me back for repeat business.

There was a solo "independant aamp near the CVS on comme ave but she left sadly due to safety. The lady gave a pretty good massage w roaming/HE but she told me about a man who roughed her up because she was working in the same building "his girls" were.

Tried chinatown once got a decent massage with less than enthusiastic HE at this place on a side street right by the dunkin donuts/Mc d's that was in the same place as a beuty salon.

Never tried Watertown/quincy/Arlington opps that are out there. Never traveled over to the AMP in Revere. I m closer to providence.

When I was younger I never realised how much I got jipped from a few escorts in the PHX. Quick mechanical service.

I frequented the AMP's in CT(Laura's spa/Osaka) in the early 90's. The quality of the visit and value "for the dollar" is still unmathced to this day.

My first RI experiences were at the AMP's in prov at the shopping center right off 95 not too far from NM today and the AMP right off 95 in pawtucket near the dunkin donuts.

Stressed Out

12-12-07, 14:43

I haven't been able to confirm it but I've seen 2 reports of a bust of the Grove St Amp in Newton Monday. They have been advertising lately with no phone number and just the address which was 276 Grove St Apr 2. Of course this bust was just a matter of time. Another example of someone not being very discreet or careful by advertising with too much info. Since I doubt that they were the ones posting you have to wonder who is putting these ladies out there. Not too bright.

Here is what I saw posted (without the names of course) .

"Two women were arrested Monday, accused of performing sexual acts for a fee at a Newton apartment.

xxxx xxxx, 44, of Connecticut, and xxxx xxxx xx, 47, of Brooklyn, N.Y., were arrested for prostitution at 276 Grove St. in apartment 2.

After receiving numerous complaints, an investigation was launched, which revealed that sexual conduct for a fee was being conducted at the apartment. Detectives said that the Grove Street address was posted on Craigslist.

Newton police detectives made the arrests following a three-week investigation. "

Shooter6

12-12-07, 15:13

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14825337/detail.html

Rufus617

12-12-07, 16:11

Cldude

12-12-07, 17:18

Here is a link to the channel 5 story

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14825337/detail.html

GravelPath

12-12-07, 17:56

You say that the problem was "someone not being very discreet or careful by advertising with too much info."

I take the article at face value. The police received numerous complaints. That's what the problem was.

Hey, I like a good AAMP as much as the next guy. But if I had strange men coming and going all day out of the apartment next door to mine, I'd call and complain, too. When lady friends come over and visit, I don't want them wondering why I live in the same building as a brothel. If I had kids, I wouldn't want them asking me what was going on.

Sure, the apartment was listed on CL -- but it hardly matters. Once the police receive the complaints, all they have to do is have a plainclothes officer go over and knock on the door.

Bottom line is anyone who runs this sort of business out of an apartment building is bound to get busted. The only way AAMPs ever stay in business is by rotating from apartment building to apartment building before the neighbors get ticked off.

I haven't been able to confirm it but I've seen 2 reports of a bust of the Grove St Amp in Newton Monday. They have been advertising lately with no phone number and just the address which was 276 Grove St Apr 2. Of course this bust was just a matter of time. Another example of someone not being very discreet or careful by advertising with too much info. Since I doubt that they were the ones posting you have to wonder who is putting these ladies out there. Not too bright.

Here is what I saw posted (without the names of course) .

"Two women were arrested Monday, accused of performing sexual acts for a fee at a Newton apartment.

xxxx xxxx, 44, of Connecticut, and xxxx xxxx xx, 47, of Brooklyn, N.Y., were arrested for prostitution at 276 Grove St. in apartment 2.

After receiving numerous complaints, an investigation was launched, which revealed that sexual conduct for a fee was being conducted at the apartment. Detectives said that the Grove Street address was posted on Craigslist.

Newton police detectives made the arrests following a three-week investigation. "

AsianLPGAfan

12-12-07, 21:12

I would be curious to see how the investigating was done.

That complex is fairly good sized. I never parked right outside the door. I would park across a building or 2 over.

I do not know how the relocated place or other places in the next somewhat upscale town next door I can't imagine how the neighbors will tolerate things?

GravelPath

12-12-07, 23:33

I haven't been able to confirm it but I've seen 2 reports of a bust of the Grove St Amp in Newton Monday.News on the web includes pictures.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14825337/detail.html#

Nvrends2007

12-13-07, 03:33

I found a website where I can print coupons to use at AMPs.

Anyone ever use a coupon for an AMP?

Thickx

12-13-07, 11:27

Stopped by this place after a stressfull Xmass shopping spree to loosen up a bit. Saw a cutie named Michelle, korean (asked) about 25-30 about a 7. 5, small A's. Nothing special for a TS then off to the room. Very nice massage, best yet at this location, then onto the special light tickle session. On the flip she went right to work on the HE. Did peek at the clock and kept saying its late but I held out as long as I could. Did allow a little roaming under the shirt and bra (confirmed my A's).

One thing I have to mention thou. Since I have been here a couple times and I always tipped about. 3 after my session I thought I would see what I would get if I tipped upfront. So I left out. 6 to see if I would get anything else as an bonus. Since I did not get anything more than usual while I was changing I adjusted my tip down to. 4, still more than I would like to tip but I thought what the heck, its Xmass time. Looks like nothing will change in this state.

Happy Holidays fellow Mongers

Jackfranklin

12-13-07, 15:14

More detailed report on Newton bust.

http://www.dailynewstribune.com/news/x1723639987

AsianLPGAfan

12-13-07, 18:21

Did someone publically post out of dishonor the code of the mongering brotherhood because he may got underserved or denied serviced he wished?

WebDog

12-13-07, 20:16

To each his own, but the issues is providers taking the tip for granted and it becomes a fee not a gratuity.

Yawn. It seems like this discussion comes up about every month.

For a $70 job I've tipped as high as $50. I'll happily continue to do so when I feel the girl has really spent an hour trying to make me happy.- in fact, I look forward to the day when a girl makes me feel that more is merited.

To me, there is one way to make a good massage even better: walk out the door feeling like a generous person.

GravelPath

12-13-07, 22:51

To each his own, but the issues is providers taking the tip for granted and it becomes a fee not a gratuity.Actually, no, if you think about it.

Spinnerluvr

12-14-07, 01:45

I found a website where I can print coupons to use at AMPs.

Anyone ever use a coupon for an AMP?Sure you did.

GravelPath

12-14-07, 08:44

Sure you did.Why is everyone around here so so quick to accuse each other of lying?

Yes, he did find such a site. The site is right here:

http://www.findalay.com/21-Massachusetts-massage-parlors-page-1.htm

10$ off coupons for Angel's, Holistic, Mayspa, and others.

Click on the name of the establishment and look for the red type.

I'd probably call in advance and make sure they honor the coupon. Even if they do, I'd have to wonder if I'd get the same level of service after handing over the coupon (although the masseuse should be working for the tips, not for the house fee.)

Then again, maybe I'd get more . . . I'm amused that the coupons prominently have the "findalay" logo in the bottom corner. (Imagine taking that to somewhere like Sakura or Orchid where, according to reports, no extras are on offer!)

If anyone wants to try using a coupon for the team, go for it!

WebDog

12-14-07, 10:04

Actually, no, if you think about it.
I am not sure I am going to stay up all night "thinking about it," but you might a little more expansive in your explanation.

I think you are just going out of your way to pick an argument with me for the sake of arguing. It is an argument I suppose you can win, since I honestly don't think I give a shit. Although it is not clear what you might arguing about. Your premise is... what? That most AMP practitioners don't take tips for granted. That is a silly assertion, but even sillier would the pointless act of debating it further.

The issue of how much is too much in a tip will never go away and remains the perennial discussion point. That is true. Although I am not sure how you a frame of reference for "about every month" since you joined less than 3 months ago.

Stan Daround

12-14-07, 11:16

Some login in on these threads to enlighten others while it seems for some their sole purpose is to flame others.

Lighten up.

GravelPath

12-14-07, 13:15

Although I am not sure how you a frame of reference for "about every month" since you joined less than 3 months ago.You're right. It is absolutely inconceivable that I might have reviewed posts on this board that were submitted before the date I joined.

Turbonium K

12-14-07, 16:47

In recent weeks there's been both a bust of a regular AMP and many board discussions regarding "too much info" in posts. Unfortunately, this leaves me with a conundrum - I've finally found a FS location in MA that you'd all be interested in, but 1) I'd rather it not be busted and 2) I don't want to put too much info out there. How do I post about my experience w/o drawing LE attention, do I just post as usual and hope for the best? Or do I just stick to Private Messaging?

Hoping to do the right thing!

Turbo

Rufus617

12-14-07, 17:59

Heck, for .35, I'll definitely TOFTT when I have a chance.

TOFTT today. Like last time, quoted .35 for hh. Gave .40 and led into large room with two areas set up with curtains. Only one girl was working so no one was next door. Waited for her to come in before I stripped down, making sure to not be bashful in front of her. Laid face down and she covered me with a large sheet. Ugh. She rubbed over it a little then pushed it down to my legs- promising, I thought.

Proceeded to give a good massage (I'm not an expert... I'm mainly in it for the finish). She teased a little bit, but mostly rubbed my ass. I started rubbing her leg to let her know what I wanted. I moved my hand up her thigh and rubbed her ass a bit. She didn't back away but moved positions after about 30 seconds.

I could tell she was finishing up so I started moving my hand to her crotch and rubbed a little. She pushed my hand away and gave it a little slap (playful). I told her I wanted to flip and she said not now, she had another appt. I told her it would be quick but she insisted massage only.

She stood her ground. I asked why and said "massage only. Boss says so."

Walked out and there was my .05 bill (change) sitting on the table. She said, "for me?" and I said "sure."

She said her name is Nicole and she used to work at Mayspa in Waltham.

I'm pretty confident that extras are never available here. I made it pretty clear I wasn't a threat and she was very clear, even for future visits.

I won't be going back.

GravelPath

12-14-07, 19:08

Rufus617,

I know a lot of people on here say otherwise.- but groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for.

Some ladies will give the HE to anyone who comes in. But a lot of ladies are selective. They only give the HE to men that they to feel comfortable with. Groping someone, even in this line of work is the fastest way of making them feel uncomfortable.

And if they need an excuse for why they're not going to give the HE, they blame it on the boss.

I invariably have better luck if I don't touch the masseuse at all.

Cheers

TOFTT today. Like last time, quoted .35 for hh. Gave .40 and led into large room with two areas set up with curtains. Only one girl was working so no one was next door. Waited for her to come in before I stripped down, making sure to not be bashful in front of her. Laid face down and she covered me with a large sheet. Ugh. She rubbed over it a little then pushed it down to my legs- promising, I thought.

Proceeded to give a good massage (I'm not an expert... I'm mainly in it for the finish). She teased a little bit, but mostly rubbed my ass. I started rubbing her leg to let her know what I wanted. I moved my hand up her thigh and rubbed her ass a bit. She didn't back away but moved positions after about 30 seconds.

I could tell she was finishing up so I started moving my hand to her crotch and rubbed a little. She pushed my hand away and gave it a little slap (playful). I told her I wanted to flip and she said not now, she had another appt. I told her it would be quick but she insisted massage only.

She stood her ground. I asked why and said "massage only. Boss says so."

Walked out and there was my .05 bill (change) sitting on the table. She said, "for me?" and I said "sure."

She said her name is Nicole and she used to work at Mayspa in Waltham.

I'm pretty confident that extras are never available here. I made it pretty clear I wasn't a threat and she was very clear, even for future visits.

I won't be going back.

GravelPath

12-14-07, 19:33

I was in the mood for a massage today. Yes, I mean it.- for a serious massage. I decided to treat myself to an upscale looking within walking distance from where I live. Price is $80, which today I took as a good sign. If they can afford to charge that, they must be doing something right.

I walked in, and paid the fee to an Asian girl, seriously not more than 25 years old. And very cute. I didn't know if the place had an Asian staff or not, so that was a happy surprise. Then, she showed me my room. I'm not saying the room was stunning or something, but it was the nicest, most comfortable room I've been in for a massage in the Boston area.

After a few minutes, she came in.- yes, the same girl who took my money. I was both happy and a bit worried. All things being equal, its always nice to have a cute girl touching you, but I wasn't sure she'd know what she was doing. Besides her youth, she is very petite.- which is not always a good sign.

It turned out I was wrong. She is an excellent masseuse. I didn't quite "lose myself" like I do with the very best massages, but still, I'd say she was top notch. I'm happy to describe the technique if anyone's interested, but I doubt anyone on this board is.

She spoke English well, though its not her first language. She didn't talk at all, except when I initiated the conversation, which I appreciated.

Near the end, her touches got light and fluttery, so I made my interests known. We negotiated for additional services. We settled on my committing to tip 40, which I thought was more than fair, since I was prepared to leave a tip of 30 just for the excellent massage.

Her technique from there on was somewhat lackluster, which I attribute to lack of experience and/or shyness. (As I mentioned, she's young.) Still, I was very happy. Afterward, she continued to massage, and after her bell rang, she turned it off and continued a little while longer.

In addition to the promised 40, I gave 10 more. So, 130 total. Not that everyone will be expected to give as much, but I thought it was well deserved, given the nice environment and the excellent massage and the fact that she was a very pretty girl.

On the way out, I asked her how long she'd been working there and she said about 2 months. I believe the place itself is legit, her activities weren't approved by management, and she could get in trouble if found out. Besides that, there are the recent concerns about LE.

So, I'm not going to divulge the name of the place or the girl on this board. Board members who seem trustworthy can message me.

I will say that I did some good research on this place beforehand, and I'm confident its never been discussed on this board before. In other words, believe it will be new to you. Because of that, in exchange, I'd appreciate it if you have some information for me about a place/person that is not already publicly discussed on this board.

Cheers

Rufus617

12-15-07, 09:41

I know a lot of people on here say otherwise.- but groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for.

Thanks for the advice. I'm new to this whole massage thing....

WebDog

12-15-07, 11:56

groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for.
If you "grope" her in a way that is obnoxious, such as trying to stick a finger in her ass as your first move, then you're not going to see a very positive reception. But playing around a little bit (e.g., smiling and lightly touching her ass in a playful way, etc.) you setting the telegraphing that your are there for more than a massage -- this often means the difference between receiving a happy ending and receiving a sensual massage.

This is true in just about every AMP I have ever visited, not just those in the Boston area. The exception would be in Providence where you don't *need* to do this, and if she's not initiating playful groping on her own, then you've probably got a dead fish on your hands.

But everywhere else, playful groping early in the process is the way to break the ice. In same cases, you actually need to put her hand on your cock for her to get the picture, but I have not encountered that in a long time. To be clear, however, I have never encountered a situation where initiating a little playful groping has led to no happy ending. Rather, as explained above, the opposite has been true. So I would not advise a "no groping" strategy, but just have some common sense about it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions (and you know what they opinions are like) but the are some fundamental facts about the "massage thing." We were all new once, yet some of us have invested in an expensive education (at a rate of $100/hr) which I encourage less experienced members to take advantage of that.

WebDog

12-15-07, 12:02

I went an saw Angel earlier in the week. I chickened out on only giving her $80, but I did limit it to $90 -- paid upfront in single batch (i.e., not $60+$30 but the entire $90 folded).

Got a great reaction overall, including two-pops, the usual facial, unlimited body access including her holding my finger and doing her fingerbang thing (which I don't dig at all, but whatever).

So bottomline, it was as good and enthusiastic an appointment as ever. Angel hasn't been anywhere near the worst offender when it comes to fee-creep. But I did feel I need to practice what I preach. I did and worked out fine. Enough said.

GravelPath

12-15-07, 12:23

But everywhere else, playful groping early in the process is the way to break the ice.You may say "everywhere else" but it sounds to me like you're just going to the rub and tug joints, where you'll generally get a HE no matter what.

But even at those places, I've found that I get a much better quality of service by keeping my hands to myself.

Think about it. Once you start grabbing her ass, she just wants to get out of the room and finish up as fast possible. No matter how wonderful and sexy you think you are, she doesn't want to be touched by you. Sure, at a certain kind of place she may still be willing to put up with it and will still give you a HE, so that she can get the big tip. But she's going to be hating you while she does it. On the other hand, if you respect her as a person, instead of treating her like a sex worker, she'll like you more and it will show in the quality of her work.

(Obviously, as an exception, some women will happily let you touch them for an extra fee. But that's something to be negotiated beforehand.)

Just read some past posts. You say, "I have never encountered a situation where initiating a little playful groping has led to no happy ending," but it is clear that a lot of members on here have. Including the one that started this conversation. If you want, you can assume that they just happened to visit masseuses that would never give a HE. I believe that if they had known how to behave, they might actually have gotten what they were looking for.

As I mentioned before, there are plenty of other ways to telegraph your interest and to break the ice, that will leave the girl feeling more comfortable. But because most men have the urge to grope, they're going to do it anyway, then try to justify it as "the way to break the ice." Hey, I have the urge to reach out and grab some ass, too. But some self-control goes a long way.

Dan Wesson

12-15-07, 17:37

Rufus617,

Some ladies will give the HE to anyone who comes in. But a lot of ladies are selective. They only give the HE to men that they to feel comfortable with. Groping someone, even in this line of work is the fastest way of making them feel uncomfortable.
CheersI would tend to agree with this observation. Much as a surprise as it may be, I think there are still many places offering massage that are not jack shacks. So with a little patience, politeness and coaxing, it is possible to get extras.

Dan Wesson

12-15-07, 17:41

But playing around a little bit (e.g., smiling and lightly touching her ass in a playful way, etc.) you setting the telegraphing that your are there for more than a massage -- this often means the difference between receiving a happy ending and receiving a sensual massage.Generally, I "telegraph" my intentions by asking for some inner thigh massage and then shooting them a view of the fruit basket. If I get a little light play, then I just encourage it.

Call me paranoid, but I never get led into any negotiations that remotely involve the "this for that" discussion. So far, this has served me well.

WebDog

12-15-07, 18:54

if they had known how to behave, they might actuall have gotten what they are looking for. As I mentioned before, there are plenty of other ways to telegraph your interest and to break the ice, that will leave the girl feeling more comfortable.why don't you enlighten us then.

GravelPath

12-15-07, 19:17

why don't you enlighten us then.Why don't you read some past posts? They've been discussed before.

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WebDog

12-17-07, 22:35

Why don't you read some past posts? They've been discussed before.You crack me up, Gravelpath. On this thread and others, you have gone out of your way to initiate arguments with me and others. Consistently you start these arguments with "you're wrong..." And with such a heavy hand at the start, readers expect some kind of solid nugget from you in the follow-through. Yet you leave us hanging every time.

This forum is not intended simply as an exchange of competing opinions. It is meant as a place to share actual experience, of which readers can form their own opinions. But one would hope there is a kernel of reality there which can be helpful to fellow mongerers.

This back-and-forth (at least most recently) began with your asinine argument that providers do not take tips for granted.

You then offered your opinion that "groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for."

Anyone who has been at the AMP thing for awhile knows this couldn't be further from the truth. The surest way to get blown off (not in the good way) is to smile politely and never initiate anything with her. Or waiting until the end and pointing at your dick -- all the moves of a rank amateur.

Sure we've all been their at one time, but if you're going to be handing out advice, why not do so from that basis of knowledge and experience.

But the part that really cracks me up is the assertion that my experience is somehow invalid as it is limited to "rub-and-tug" spots. And your experience is based on where, the Spa at Canyon Ranch??? (laughs out loud)

Your sanctimonious bullshit about "knowing how to act" and treating women right -- all you have done with your comments is reveal your lack of experience.

I post here because I learned a lot from this board. I avoided a lot of expense and personal risk by following the advice given from here over the years -- and where I got into trouble was by ignoring the words of senior members on this board, or otherwise not knowing who to believe at the time.

Today I feel an obligation to reciprocate those contributions, partly because there are still areas and venues where I am still newbie, and more so because I believe in encouraging an economy of peer-reviewed information. Plus, many of the Seniors I relied upon when first joined have moved on (with some notable exceptions) and I do what I can to fill their shoes.

I don't pretend to know what your motivations are, but they do not seem to be anything different than someone who likes to hear himself talk. It does the rest of the members a disservice to engage in personal arguments here, as no one wants read that.

So with that said, I am ending my comments here and adding you to my ignore list. Post what you want, but if it is directed at me, I won't be responding. For those who PM'd me that I should just ignore Gravelpath -- I agree and swear this will be my last response.

Jeep 95

12-18-07, 01:30

Webdog, listen to his advice- stop treating the sex workers as if they are sex workers. ;)

Oh, wait, maybe they'll think your a moron. Cancel that thought.

Triesharder

12-18-07, 10:04

Webdog, listen to his advice- stop treating the sex workers as if they are sex workers. ;)

Oh, wait, maybe they'll think your a moron. Cancel that thought.

The fact is I have had success both ways. Oftentimes the situation dictates. Just be cool about it, polite, and respectful.

GravelPath

12-18-07, 13:29

I leave you hanging? What the fuck? This "back-and-forth" started when I gave good advice. I said groping isn't a good idea. I wasn't telling someone was wrong and I wasn't picking a fight. The advice wasn't even directed at you. It was directed at someone who didn't get any play, and was wondering why.

So, you didn't like the advice. Well, sorry. Go on groping ladies. I honestly don't care. But instead you decided to jump in and tell everyone that what I had to say was just a worthless opinion, whereas you, the almighty webdog have the "facts," and have never turned away from a handjob, no, not once. And now you say that this board wasn't meant for "opinions" even though that's pretty much all you ever post.

All the same, thanks for telling me what the forum was meant for. Obviously, if a post doesn't meet your criteria, it's no good.

If the members want me to go away, in invite them to just tell me. Take a vote. I'll happily not try out any new places, and will happily not share any new info.

Because, take a look at all my posts. A lot of good information is in them. Visits to new places. When have you posted about a visit to a new AMP? Seriously, take a look at your sanctimonious shit. It's all about how you're such an expert. But you don't share any info, except for the fact that you cruise around chelsea not getting any. Oh, and the occasional visit to Angel and Amy, a place everyone knows about already. Thanks for the using the board the way it was meant to be.

But go on, keep posting your drive. Just don't make your arguments by misconstruing my posts. I *never* said don't initiate anything. I said don't initiate anything "by groping. " can you read? Or do you just go so offended when someone disagrees with you, that you go blind?

What really gets my goat is you resort to the ad hominem. You call me a rank amateur. Well, if the number of meaningful posts means anything, I have a whole lot more experience than you. All the same, let's all bow down before webdog. He's posted 800 absolutely useless posts. Woo-baby. Who likes to hear himself talk?

I'm glad you're ignoring me. Maybe now I can offer some meaningful advice to people when I have some to give, without you having to feel compelled to jump in and call me wrong.

You crack me up, Gravelpath. On this thread and others, you have gone out of your way to initiate arguments with me and others. Consistently you start these arguments with "you're wrong. " And with such a heavy hand at the start, readers expect some kind of solid nugget from you in the follow-through. Yet you leave us hanging every time.

This forum is not intended simply as an exchange of competing opinions. It is meant as a place to share actual experience, of which readers can form their own opinions. But one would hope there is a kernel of reality there which can be helpful to fellow mongerers.

This back-and-forth (at least most recently) began with your asinine argument that providers do not take tips for granted.

You then offered your opinion that "groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for. "

Anyone who has been at the AMP thing for awhile knows this couldn't be further from the truth. The surest way to get blown off (not in the good way) is to smile politely and never initiate anything with her. Or waiting until the end and pointing at your dick.- all the moves of a rank amateur.

Sure we've all been their at one time, but if you're going to be handing out advice, why not do so from that basis of knowledge and experience.

But the part that really cracks me up is the assertion that my experience is somehow invalid as it is limited to "rub-and-tug" spots. And your experience is based on where, the Spa at Canyon Ranch? (laughs out loud)

Your sanctimonious bullshit about "knowing how to act" and treating women right.- all you have done with your comments is reveal your lack of experience.

I post here because I learned a lot from this board. I avoided a lot of expense and personal risk by following the advice given from here over the years.- and where I got into trouble was by ignoring the words of senior members on this board, or otherwise not knowing who to believe at the time.

Today I feel an obligation to reciprocate those contributions, partly because there are still areas and venues where I am still newbie, and more so because I believe in encouraging an economy of peer-reviewed information. Plus, many of the Seniors I relied upon when first joined have moved on (with some notable exceptions) and I do what I can to fill their shoes.

I don't pretend to know what your motivations are, but they do not seem to be anything different than someone who likes to hear himself talk. It does the rest of the members a disservice to engage in personal arguments here, as no one wants read that.

So with that said, I am ending my comments here and adding you to my ignore list. Post what you want, but if it is directed at me, I won't be responding. For those who PM'd me that I should just ignore Gravelpath.- I agree and swear this will be my last response.

GravelPath

12-18-07, 13:33

Webdog, listen to his advice- stop treating the sex workers as if they are sex workers. ;)

Oh, wait, maybe they'll think your a moron. Cancel that thought.Just because someone *is* a sex worker doesn't mean they want to be treated like one. When you pick up a woman in a bar, you're thinking of her as a sex object. Doesn't that mean you should explicitly treat her like one?

All I'm saying is, think about what's going through someone else's mind.

Show that you're turned on. Rearrange yourself to demonstrate you have an erection. Make some noise when she touches your thighs. Do shit like that tells her she is doing good work. But let her think that she's in control, that her tits aren't going to be groped by a random stranger unless she offers an invitation. Let her feel in control.

Or, hell, do whatever you want.

GravelPath

12-18-07, 13:35

Generally, I "telegraph" my intentions by asking for some inner thigh massage and then shooting them a view of the fruit basket. If I get a little light play, then I just encourage it.

Call me paranoid, but I never get led into any negotiations that remotely involve the "this for that" discussion. So far, this has served me well.This is exactly what I was talking about. I didn't mean to suggest that you needed to start a verbal conversation. Though if you want anything beyond a handjob, you'll probably have to. though even then, just asking, "are there any other services you offer?" is a fairly respectful way of doing it.

GravelPath

12-18-07, 13:39

This back-and-forth (at least most recently) began with your asinine argument that providers do not take tips for granted.By the way, just to set the record straight. *That* was a completely different, earlier discussion aboou tips. I guess webdog still felt immensely offended that I contradicted him in that prior discussion, so he had to just jump in and jump all over me when he saw my post on another topic.

All the same, I have to point out that he is *again* misconstruing me. That wasn't my argument. i never said providers don't take tips for granted. My argument was this. Just because masseuses take tips for granted does not convert them from a tip into a "fee".

Waiters in restaurants take 15% tips for granted, too. But they're still tips. Still up to you to decide how much to give.

If you don't have the balls to give the waiter a 5% tip when the service is bad, don't blame the waiter.

And if you do have the balls to do it, don't go back to the restaurant hoping to get great service.

GravelPath

12-18-07, 13:49

Big Bobby35

12-18-07, 14:03

Seems like more and more in this electronic society we rely on faceless forums. The more people read the more they don't 'read' the way they were meant to?

I'll say this I have used both Web and Gravel's notes and posts. How much is useful in my day to day life? Well depends upon whats on that days open time slot or SLOTS.

Give intel and Take intel. When you give. Have substance! It is meant for us 'hobbist', whatever level you are to be: SAFE, SECURE, and Enjoyable experiences. When those are very hard to find now adays.

I think that there is enough bullshit out there that we could keep less on the boards.

My 2 cents

Big Bobby35

12-18-07, 14:23

The fact is I have had success both ways. Oftentimes the situation dictates. Just be cool about it, polite, and respectful.It has worked both ways for me. Depends on situation. If I am going to be forwardly groping it is usually in a playful way. Lots of smiles, chatting, etc. Every provider is different and every situation is different.

Have there been times I've been shot down, HELL YEAH!

There have been postings here about AMP conduct. Do's and don't's. I gotta say a place I haven't been into before I can usually tell in the first 5mins. Chat up the girl, mention good looks (smile, eyes, strong hands), lay down on table, they start on neck, my hands reach up legs to butt (while mentioning at same time very strong hands and strong legs. Wow, beautiful butt. Then they push away or smile and giggle. I stop and then enjoy. I never push the kitty. Gotta get a feel for girl and establishment.

I know some here will boo me, but hey it works for ME.

Dan Wesson

12-18-07, 20:55

Just because someone *is* a sex worker doesn't mean they want to be treated like one. When you pick up a woman in a bar, you're thinking of her as a sex object. Doesn't that mean you should explicitly treat her like one? And this statement is the nub of it.

I have been hobbying since 2000. I do not seek out FS. I have done the AMPs here, RI and CO. Personally, I rather enjoy getting the extras (HE only) at places not normally associated with extras and which offer a good massage. It is like a challenge to me!

And yes, I have actually asked, even at the more high profile jack shacks, what irritates them. No surprise, most tell me it is when a "new" customer makes assumptions, treats them like servants, gropes. Some have told me they would not deliver and probably would not massage these gents again.

Of course, there are many exceptions. And the girls at some AMPs, who may not even be there if they had a choice, may tolerate more.

Having said that, everyone is entitled to their approach and their sage advice is appreciated. But remember, it is based on your experiences, so differing opinions should be welcome and discussed for their value under different circumstances.

Just my 2 cents!

Dan Wesson

12-18-07, 21:09

Just because masseuses take tips for granted does not convert them from a tip into a "fee". I don't consider them a fee unless they tell me ahead of time what a good tip is. Then I weigh the perceived value. In general, most of the women I tip don't tell me what they expect. And I can generally tell on the next outing whether the tip offended them. If so, and I don't think they are worth more, then I move on.

Of course, they are primarily making their living on the tips, so I don't blame them. Just be a good consumer, as you would with any other service. Shop around, compare. Personally, I won't get into any money discussion, but if I did, I could certainly see how they can get offended by my dickering over their own perceived value. To me, this already puts a damper on my fun.

Teejay

12-18-07, 23:03

Hi, Haven't seen any ads on CL for 7044. Anyone have any idea why?

Shooter6

12-18-07, 23:34

Every provider is different and every situation is different.

Exactly. And every client is different. If you're nervous about roaming, it will likely seem awkward to both of you. I'd hate for this to become a place where we pick apart each others habits, and I don't think that was anyones intention. Talking about money (which was the initial discussion) has a tendency to escalate into other things, as people have strong feelings about it.

Gravel, you've provided me with some very good info. You've earned your keep, as I hope I have done.

I DO think it's HILARIOUS (not in a mean spirited or argumentative way but just plain old funny) that the same person who suggested lower tips also was on the pro-grope side. Don't take that personally, it is in no way a dig. It just made me laugh.

Let's all share a laugh, hold hands and sing kumbaya.

Phuqued

12-19-07, 00:28

Hey guys,

Sory about the pissed off last post. Just pissed off by the personal attacks.

I'm curious, do they reflect the opinion of this board?

I feel I've posted a lot of good information, and given a lot more by back channels. Both on new places that haven't been reviewed before, and on how to behave. While I've told people they were wrong, I've not gotten personal.

I take the chance I've learned a lot here, and I'm happy to keep giving back. But only if you guys think I'm giving back.

That being said, you'll have to take me as I am. When blowhards post bullshit, I will tell them they're wrong. I respect people because of what they contribute, not because of their magical "senior member" status.

Let me know.

WD is a generous contributor. He's TOFFT many times, and he has my respect. IMO, he is very forthright in his postings, and I think that implying that WD is a blowhard is completely out-of-line. When he tries something that doesn't work, he reports it. Same with some other "senior" members, such as MM when he got burned. When WD has information, he shares it with the membership. "Senior" member status is minimally relevant. "Senior contributor" status is very relevant, IMO.

You have about four "quasi-reviews", which themselves yield nominal information. The remainder of your posts appear to be questions, advise, or disagreements. You may be a very experienced hobbyist, but you apparently keep your ladies to yourself. Personally, I don't need advice about how to interact with a lady, but I always appreciate a bone-fide review.

Both WD and you are entitled to your opinions. However, if you don't like WD's posts, there are simple solutions, such as the ignore list, rather than to ask the membership to serve as the jury in an interpersonal dispute and threatening not to continue to post if the membership doesn't take your side.

Chick Digger

12-19-07, 09:05

Hey guys:

I tried asking this two days ago no replies. I am in Boston area till Friday, so any intel would be appreciated.

If any of you have had a session with the following ladies from CL, your info would be highly appreciated. Between the two who would you recommend?

Thanks.

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and the next one

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GravelPath

12-19-07, 09:13

You have about four "quasi-reviews", which themselves yield nominal information. The remainder of your posts appear to be questions, advise, or disagreements. You may be a very experienced hobbyist, but you apparently keep your ladies to yourself. Personally, I don't need advice about how to interact with a lady, but I always appreciate a bone-fide review. Hi Phuqued,

I completely respect your opinion. You've been a great contributor.

I didn't ask the board to serve as a jury in a dispute, though. I only asked if I was a meaningful contributor. Thank you for your answer. I didn't realize that, in the space of three months, my lengthy reviews of Golden Water, Orchid, Yumi, Lily's, Aiko, a place in Somerville that I've discussed via backchannels, GFE in somerville, etc., only counted as quasi-reviews with nominal information. Especially given that I was the first person on the board to cover three of those places.

I wish someone had pointed out what was wrong with those reviews and I would have tried harder. If I didn't share more information, it's because I was trying to follow the rules about posting that I've seen on here. I've always happily given out more via backchannels.

No, I don't "keep my ladies to myself" but that was the best I could do in four months.

All the same, since I'm apparently useless, I'll be on my way.

Thanks to those who sent me messages in support.

Phat Bastard

12-19-07, 11:08

Hey guys,

Sory about the pissed off last post. Just pissed off by the personal attacks.

I'm curious, do they reflect the opinion of this board?

I feel I've posted a lot of good information, and given a lot more by back channels. Both on new places that haven't been reviewed before, and on how to behave. While I've told people they were wrong, I've not gotten personal.

I take the chance I've learned a lot here, and I'm happy to keep giving back. But only if you guys think I'm giving back.

That being said, you'll have to take me as I am. When blowhards post bullshit, I will tell them they're wrong. I respect people because of what they contribute, not because of their magical "senior member" status.

Let me know.

Are you sure you can take it if people let you know and it's not someone blowing sunshine up your ass or a sock puppet?

Have you ever seen anyone tout their senior member status and (sadly) attempt to use it as leverage? Please provide a link if you can find one because I haven't seen anyone do it, including WebDog.

Being a senior member means that you can post immediately without review, nothing more. Abso-fuckin-lutely nothing more. People with 1 or 1,000 posts are all equals here and we're all just guests, here at the discretion of Jackson. In two or so months, you'll be able to post immediately too. Be patient, we all had to wait, and you'll be there before you know it.

As far as being sorry for your previous posts, if that's true, why wouldn't you edit them or delete them? It's probably not too late even now.

As far as respecting people goes, there are more parameters to respect people for than just the volume or quality of information they write because that can be faked. Easily faked. People can write "informative" posts by repeating what others have reported, elaborating on that or simply making new stuff up that can't/won't be corroborated or is corroborated by another screen name that they have. Also LE reads every word we write and people adjust their posts accordingly. Knowing that, faulting people for not posting information is the same as faulting them for not giving information to the police.

About perceived blowhards and bullshit....lol.

You say:

"When blowhards post bullshit, I will tell them they're wrong"

Yet you fault WebDog for doing exactly that to you:

"Maybe now I can offer some meaningful advice to people when I have some to give, without you having to feel compelled to jump in and call me wrong."

Gravel, calm down, stop exploding whenever someone pokes you with their finger, enjoy your AMP visits and have a Happy Chanukah/Merry Christmas/Happy Festivus/Happy Kwanzaa.

Phat Bastard

12-19-07, 11:21

Let's all share a laugh, hold hands and sing kumbaya.

Laugh....yes, hold hands....not so much

Member #4196

12-19-07, 11:57

I have jumped into the forum to catch up on my reading and damn, there sure seems to be a lot of activity.

Like everyone, else, I have some opinions on all the reading I caught up on. I have been in this hobby for more years that some of our providers have been on this planet..lol.

My first AMP was in Saigon in 1969 and I have been hooked on massage visits since then. I have been in AMP's and other MP's in many different cities when the yellow pages was the only intel you had. I traveled the entire US in my job and it was all trial and error with no reports or info to steer me in any specific direction.

Along came Screw and the Phoenix which gave more helpful hints and then finally the internet and the sites such as this to exchange info.

As with all thiese sites, I look for a guy's take on his individual experience and reporting as such all the time realizing that one man's trash is another man's treasure. We all have different tastes, different goals and as a result different experiences.

One example is that I got good intel on Angel and Amy in here and for me they both allow access to mountains and valleys and others report no access to Amy's valley. I don't believe this is a call for BS, but rather accept that for the most part, posters on here don't BS with the exception of an infamous one who will go unnamed but does not frequent this MP forum.

I have found in all my years that the softer, gentler approach with some discretion and respect pays off in spades. I don't have the time nor the energy to get into fingerpointing or agruing for after all, I look for this forum to provide good, solid intel for all to reap the benefits.

We find a great MP, they get good business and everyone walks away a winner.

I am not looking for a love in, but hell, let's stop dissing one another and get back to the purpose of this site; good solid intel and info exchange and finding the places where our hard earned dollars should be spent.

Take care and stay safe...

Boston Monger

12-19-07, 13:11

My first AMP was in Saigon in 1969 and I have been hooked on massage visits since then.

I gosta ask......how much did it cost?

Stressed Out

12-19-07, 13:38

Member #4196

12-19-07, 15:11

I gosta ask......how much did it cost?

You don't want to know..lol

10 bucks US to mama san and another 10 for the gal..best 20 buks ever..lol

Hell in 1970 Gee Gee's in Portland was 15 for the hour and 5 for the tip and that was BJ included but gas was 29cents a gallon too. It's all relative but I will tell you those authentice Thai soapy massages were 25 US dollars and well woth that trip too.

Take care and stay safe

Member #4196

12-19-07, 15:14

thanks to you CH (and your previous handle) for all the info and references you have given me over the many years. I too have been around before many of the current rop of providers were even born. The old days of Royal Sauna, Ole English Health Club and the bowling alley just to name a few. The old days were so much better. Besides being cheaper the ladies appreciated what they got from you (most did). Nowadays it almost seems to be lets just get all we can in the quickest amount of time. Although the quantity seems to be up the quality seems to be lacking. Here's to 2008 being a safe and happy year for us mongerers and the providers as well. SO

Hey SO,

Yeah I still keep the other OR handle on TBD but just changed it up in here. Still the same old good info exchange that we have all come to appreciate over the years.

TwistedBrother

12-19-07, 16:49

I have jumped into the forum to catch up on my reading and damn, there sure seems to be a lot of activity.

What a great post. Thanks ... Although my history only goes back to 91, I like talking about those "old" days, not to mention hearing about some of you who go way back beyond that.

Phat Bastard

12-19-07, 22:51

My first AMP was in Saigon in 1969 and I have been hooked on massage visits since then.

Hey CH, thanks for serving man. Some of us appreciate that sort of thing:)

Zacksmith

12-20-07, 08:57

WebDog

12-20-07, 13:30

Hey CH, thanks for serving man. Some of us appreciate that sort of thing:)Nice call, PB.

CoastHog, indeed thank you for serving over there so the rest of us can enjoy our freedom here.

I am in awe of all who serve, and I know you earned that $20 Saigon special.

Thank you for your service, and thank you for your stories back home! My time also began in the early/mid 1990s so I can't help but be envious on the $20 screw! And somehow (pre-USASG) I just missed the Danish and Olde English -- but both closed like the week I discovered them. I know some great times went with them.

Triesharder

12-20-07, 14:39

Hey CH, thanks for serving man. Some of us appreciate that sort of thing:)

Thank you sir. And thank you for all your contributions to these boards. But mostly thank you for your service.

Viejo

12-20-07, 21:04

My first AMP was in Saigon in 1969...

CH, it sounds like we were in the same general area - my first was in Patpong, 1968 - and nothing anywhere else compares. Talk about being spoiled...

Leggeddog

12-21-07, 19:09

I just return from the big apple after a month long work related visit. While there stopped and visited several nice places and had a good time. Any new ones pop up here? Just getting that itch again.

WebDog

12-22-07, 16:07

CH, it sounds like we were in the same general area - my first was in Patpong, 1968 - and nothing anywhere else compares. Talk about being spoiled...Viejo, thank you for your service, as well as your wise and often humorous posts over the years.

WebDog

12-22-07, 17:55

I went to Angels and after the HE, I turned down the facial. I thought she was going to rub oil on my face or something. Now, after reading your post, I feel like an idiot. What was the "facial"?Facial just like your mother/wife/girlfriend would get -- from an Esthetician, not from Peter North. She whips up some kind of an exfoliant, rubs that into your skin, and then rinses/cleans it off with a wet washcloth. She does a very nice job and while it it is not a substitute for a HE, it is a very nice (and totally unique) embellishment of the usual hot towel treatment. Definitely recommend you take her up on it at your next visit.

D8811

12-23-07, 00:09

Ok. Yes I did read the reports but I found myself on Rt 16 during the storm on Thursday so I figured I would give it a shot.

The location is in an office building off of what looks like an alley. It was a nice and clean building. I rang the bell and was met at the door by a Chinese woman named Nicole. She was older than what I am used to but she seemed very pleasant so I decided to take the 1hr massage for. 6

She lead me into a large room with a long curtain that ran the length of the room. There were four or five curatined sections. I paid the house fee and prepared for the massage. She came in and covered me with a towel but within 5 minues the towel was off. I was a bit concerned as kept hearing a shuffling noise next door. Turned out to be the end of another massage session going on right next door. Not a great feeling.

THe massage was very good and the therapist was quite friendly. She made sure to "lean" against my hand and arms as she worked. I took it as a sign that a litle touching would be tolerated and it was. She allowed lots of roaming on the lower half. But that was it.

Very good massage, friendly atmosphere, but no HE. "Boss no let. "

It was a nice break from the backed up traffic, but there is not much of a chance that I will repeat. I value the ending too much.

If anyone has some recommendations for me. I'd love to hear about them

Merry Christmas all!

Steve Naive

12-23-07, 05:24

I'm back from Thailand, where I got excellent 2-hour therapeutic (no HE) massage for $12+tip, and memorable service (FS and beyond) in other places for $18 (hour, upcountry) to $60 (overnight, BKK) incl tip. Yes, I'm spoiled.

Called Angel at noon Saturday and was able to get appt for 3pm. When I got there, it was hopping. A number of walkins were asked to return at various later times. I guess she is busier than usual because of the holidays.

I think it always makes sense to call in advance if you can. During a busy season like this you could call just before going in, rather than walking in, and save yourself some time.

As a fan of excellent "clean" massage, I am still not impressed with Angel's therapeutic massage, but I do enjoy the creative extras. I was less than pleased with the interruptions to my massage caused by walk-ins. She also fields phone calls during massage.

BTW they are closed on Xmas. That does not go without saying. Boston's Chinese groceries are often open that day, and in Asia, it's just another business day for SWs.

Ampdude 2003

12-23-07, 13:17

Many of you have seen the ADs in CL, some of you have visited. They always have a PIC with a naked asian girl with a big smile, legs crossed and a single rose across her knees. I myself was very curious from some good reports here and also no bad reports in general, with the fact they have been advertising for a while. I don't find myself being an "early adopter" for independents.

Made the call two days ago on Friday afternoon. Left a message and call was returned by Honey. Very sweet voice, seemingly nice girl. She is obviously driving their endeavor. I headed on over from the Financial District in Boston. Hotel is a popular hotel near the Pru Center, but I understand the girls change hotels. I called when I was in the lobby and got Honey. She mentioned she was going out shopping and Mei would be up in the room. She told me the # and I headed on up. I was happy with the arrangement as I heard some good things about Mei.

Knock, knock ...door mysteriously opens and Mei's head pops out welcoming me in. My first impression was good. Mei was wearing a thin mini dress and in my opinion very pretty - a typically beautiful asian girl. Let me tell you she is NOT the girl in the PIC, but who is nowadays. Mei had long black hair to her mid back and cut straight across her forehead. She is from Beijing and here visiting. She is about 25 I would guess, no more. She is taking English classes every day, her conversational english is starting to take shape, but conversation will be difficult. Her measurements are about 5'5", 100 lbs and "A" cans. (The A's are how I know she is not the girl in the PIC. Anyhow, I like bigger cans, but no disappointments here - she is a nice girl.

She gives me a hug for a greeting, helps me undress completely, asked me if I wanted to take shower but opted to not as I had just taken one about 3 hours ago. Mei has me lay face down on the bed. She takes her cloths off immediately and begins a so-so massage. It is a nice sensual foreplay but not of massage quality at all. Her touch is nice.

To give the breakdown of time 5 minutes sensual massage she oiled herself up and then gave 10 minutes of body-to-body massage while I am still face down. She is directly on top of me with lots of skin contact and tits on back. She then sits up, faces the other way and uses her butt and legs to massage all over. As others reported, I could feel her privates very well. Nice!

One thing that struck me as a bit funny is she has a little bit of a tailbone at he end of the spine / top of her butt crack. All I could think of is the Jack Black movie "Shallow Hal" where the George Castanza character friend in the movie had a little tail that wagged, and some girl who liked dogs thought it was cute. Let me tell you Mei's "tail" wasn't that bad, and like I said she is a beautiful girl. This "feature" wasn't much of a buzzkill.

She has me flip and gives me a bit of an upsell. On the phone and from what I heard, it is $200 for the sensual massage. She wanted another $100 for FS. I told her nicely I only had $30 more and was told it was $200. She offered to opt for CBJ and smiled and said "next time you bring more". She wiped off the oil and began a nice CBJ. It took me a while but she was really into it - all the professional moaning and motions with her head bobbing up and down nicely. I did not finish after about 10 minutes, so she then took off the cap and oiled up some more and gave me a nice body-to-body massage with her butt crack all over my johnson. It slid between her cheeks and outside her privates. This lasted for about 5-10 minutes. Again, Nice!

I started getting anxious because I was not near completion but she assured me it was OK, and she liked it. She didn't rush and allowed me to take my time.

She finished by HJ which she used a combination of her body and hand, between boobs and rubbing on her stomach. She keeps you engaged, that's for sure. I finally popped toward the end of the hour. I think I may have gone over the hour.

We did some chatting, she again helped me dress and said our good-byes.

All in all, it cost me $229 ($1 short of the extra $30!). Nice girl, nice experience, may shoot for Honey next time. Mei mentioned she see's clients in the afternoon, and no more than 3 clients so she can study. She is going back to Beijing for the Chinese New Year in Feb, and will return to states after that.

The one closing item I had is I really like the concept of body-to-body massage. I have heard of some of the places in Thailand and this service appeals to me. I hope someday to be able to go there. This service with Mei and Honey had a flair of that, and was very enjoyable.

Take care - hope you enjoy the report.

NY Jimmy

12-24-07, 09:48

You guys are finding out why I have been going to Leeza since 2000 and I used to drive from Boston to Poughkeepsie, NY to see her (3 hours drive from here). I am so glad she moved here. I try to go at least once every two weeks. Her massage is very gentle and yet sensually intense. The key thing is that if you want to last a long time (with one pop), she can make it last a full hour before you come. I have not seen any one who could do that and I have tried in many states. She is in complete control. It is true that roaming is limited and that she only uses her hands, however, I just completely relax and let her do her magic. I think that I have been rewarded (after 7 years) by having her 30 minutes away instead of 3 hours.

Went this week as well. Completely agree with your review (saved me some typing). She books a 15min gap in between appointments (at least she did when i was there).

Roaming over bra and pants (ass only), tried like a monkey to get that lab coat looking thing off... she just smiled so i went back to groping her nice rack. A little pricey for a HR (or 2) but the location is safe, easy to get to, and she keeps it VERY warm on cold days.

Will repeat!

Member #4196

12-24-07, 11:14

CH, it sounds like we were in the same general area - my first was in Patpong, 1968 - and nothing anywhere else compares. Talk about being spoiled...

Yeah, some great and not so great memories but those steam and creams were always a better option for me rather than hold down a full time mama san..LOl

Web, Tries and Phat, thanks for the kind words about serving. Makes it even more meaningful today for every time I see a GI and shake his or her hand and thank them for serving today.

And Vie, I know that you and I did not receive that kind of thanks when we came home ,so the the "thank you" s received today are much more meaningful.

I wear only two stickers on my helmet on the Harley, one being a POW/MIA sticker for some of my brothers who did not come home and the other, the words that say" For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know."

So as we all gather around with friends and family to celebrate the holdidays, don't forget all those soldiers around the world who won't be with families and those soldiers who never did make it home and are still amongst the missing.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all.

Ampdude 2003

12-24-07, 16:03

Yeah, some great and not so great memories but those steam and creams were always a better option for me rather than hold down a full time mama san..LOl

Web, Tries and Phat, thanks for the kind words about serving. Makes it even more meaningful today for every time I see a GI and shake his or her hand and thank them for serving today.

And Vie, I know that you and I did not receive that kind of thanks when we came home ,so the the "thank you" s received today are much more meaningful.

I wear only two stickers on my helmet on the Harley, one being a POW/MIA sticker for some of my brothers who did not come home and the other, the words that say" For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know."

So as we all gather around with friends and family to celebrate the holdidays, don't forget all those soldiers around the world who won't be with families and those soldiers who never did make it home and are still amongst the missing.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all.

... and Merry Christmas all.

Viejo

12-24-07, 17:35

...So as we all gather around with friends and family to celebrate the holdidays, don't forget all those soldiers around the world who won't be with families and those soldiers who never did make it home and are still amongst the missing.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all.
When Christmas Eve arrives, errant memories take me back to a couple of Christmases spent in strange and inhospitable places. It makes me appreciate more every year that I can spend this time with family and friends.

But always in the background are memories of those who didn't make it. And that makes me feel very fortunate to be one of those who did.

Merry Christmas.

Pika Pepper

12-25-07, 21:13

I tried Beijing Massage on Mass Ave in Arlington. I had Summer who is older but attractive, although I think she was wearing some kind of girdle. The massage was good but not great. She giggled during some light caressing, but at the ending said "Boss no let me. Next time."

On the way out, she introduced me to Sunny who was younger and also attractive.

Based on the lack of an ending, I will not return until I read some reports to the contrary. Has anybody had a better experience?

Dan Wesson

12-27-07, 20:38

Based on Table Showers info, I gave Mayspa a second try.

Again I chose May and again a great back, neck and shoulder massage. When we go to the legs, I asked her to do the inside of my thighs more. She asked were they sore? I said, no, I just like it. Anyway, she started to brush my sack with the back of her hand to which I replied that felt good. On the flip, she asked if I was shy. I said no and off came the towel. She did the regular stomach and leg massage at which point I was breaking with anticipation. She then said close your eyes (a nice virginal touch that got me even more excited). She proceeded to give a nice two hand massage to spike. Needless to say, with all the teasing I popped relatively quick.

Overall, great quality massage, heated table, clean place, good lookin personable woman, acceptable finish and a nice hot towel wipe of the oil (and the spooge). At $1 total and no long drives, I can't really complain.

Mr Boston

12-30-07, 03:05

Hello friends,

There are so many Asian massage places in various apartments these days. I've had some great times.

I did not get a chance to comment when that Grove St. Place got busted. I had been there maybe a week before. Excellent massage from very experienced and friendly mature provider. Too bad what happened, but I got very worried when they posted their address on CL not long after I was there. I can't imagine who suggested that was a good idea.

Called a number from the Phoenix and was directed to a place in the Dedham area. It is a little tough to find, but just be patient. The masseuse there was mid-late 30s, very attractive, pleasant, and did a very good job, . 7 for the house plus tips. The place was very nice and very discreet also. My only complaints were, session was a little short, and the clean-up cloth was only lukewarm! When I got the urge a couple of weeks later, I called the same #, and talked about the short time, the "dispatcher" did giggle a little, and assured me that she would speak to the woman working (who was the same one.- she still had not rotated out, I guess.) But I wanted a little variety, so I went to.-

A place also from the Phoenix, which they said was in Lexington, but if it is, it is just inside. Very easy to get to, but follow their directions. The masseuse was a little older, I think, and slightly less attractive, but gave an absolutely outstanding massage. 7 + tips again. The building and room are not as nice, either, so it is your call. I was there fairly late, and I thought I was after their closing time, but she took another appt while she was working with me, and did seem concerned that I be able to leave on time.

If only some of these places could stay open more than a few months, maybe we would get an even better level of service! In the meantimne, the perennial question: go back someplace else, or new adventures?

And in response to the topic of "roaming", etc. : No matter what I am thinking when I first walk into a place, I just try to relax and enjoy the first period of the massage. If a touch is a little different at some point, or I feel a thigh pressing against my arm, I just relax and enjoy. Show respect and friendliness, and very often you will have a great time. Has been true in Boston and beyond!

But don't overtip!

A happy New Year to all,

Mr. Boston

Mini Man

12-31-07, 12:22

I would like to take this opportunity to appreciate all those that contribute to this forum. All of us are consumers of services that are either legal or illegal depending on the extent of service. Many of the services are misrepresented. Most of the services cost between $100 and $200. To have the opportunity to read a review before spending our money is wonderful. It may be exciting to walk into an AMP without any prior knowledge and be pleasantly surprised but it is also very disappointing to get a poor massage from an unattractive older woman that does not want to provide any release.

I have always enjoyed the contributions to this forum and have become a wiser consumer now that I read it on a regular basis.

Happy New Year to all and happy hoppying to all.

Ilovenola

12-31-07, 12:28

Second time here. Good TS, cute girls, HE what more could you ask for. First time with Coco I already discussed but I'll say was a good massage and decent HE. Made an appointment, but had to wait in the waiting room for a couple of minutes...two newspapers to read, USA Today from Oct. 23rd and Herald from Nov. 30th. Another guy was there so I wasn't so happy about this part. No huge deal though I suppose. This time I had Lisa. Mid-30's, cute enough, giggled a bit too much for my tastes but still a nice girl. Massage? Not so great, but good enough. She allowed ample roaming, and someone more aggressive could probably get more(top off, etc.) And the room was warm which is always a bonus. Very good HE. took her time, eye contact, didn't seem to be trying to get it over with quickly. For a good massage I'd ask for Coco, for this Lisa. I'll probably go one more time before I (try to) give up the hobby for good. Too expensive a habit and I think I'm getting a bit addicted. Anywhoo, enough about my personal life. There's a third girl there(maybe more since this was only the second time I was there) that I had seen both times I was there that I really really want next time. Luckily I got her name, Tracy so I'm looking forward to it. Petite, islander looking girl. Anyone have any experience with her? Anyway...that's the that.

BostonGuy1961

01-01-08, 16:53

First time posting on this list. I was a frequent poster on the old list run by Atta. Been out of the hobby for a while now (family, work, etc). Decided to ease myself back into the other day by visiting Angel. Very nice lady and with a nice body to boot (loved her top and bottom). Lots of roaming and some light kissing allowed. Allowed some light tongue on her nipples. Was very satisfied and will repeat in a couple of weeks.

Leggeddog

01-02-08, 19:09

Hoping to have better luck this year without the bait & switches and not get caught. LOL

Big Adventure

01-03-08, 09:33

I visited MaySpa and was very pleased with the massage and the ending. It was my second visit.

On my first visit I was also pleased with the massage. It was very sensual and the therapist responded when I told he what I liked. But the ending was more me than the therapist. Her english was not good, but I think she implied that the owner said no, or perhaps that the owner said not the first time.

On my second visit, the therapist helped me undress, which I enjoyed, and seemed more comfortable with me throughout the massage. And a lot more comfortable at the end. I had a happy ending that was not rushed.

I did not get the name of the therapist, but she was older and definitely not May, who was also there when I went for my 2nd massage. And judging by the descriptions in other posts, it was not Annie (who last probably the other therapist there when I visited the first time). In my opinion May and Annie are much more attractive. But my therapist gave a great massage.

I will definitely go back, but probably make an appointment with May or Annie next time.

Ilovenola

01-03-08, 09:49

Hoping to have better luck this year without the bait & switches and not get caught. LOLThat's worth a story. Do tell.

Hayas

01-03-08, 20:04

I was too borded so, surfed around CL and found out Quincy, lady from NY is back. So, I Called for an appointment, and headed there in 30 minutes. The temp is killing me! I was freezed on the street.

I Rang the door bell, the lady buzzed me in. As the same lady from last time, 7 look, 8 body, nice. Since I remember her and she remember me, we chatted a little. She told me will be here for another week and will go back to NY.

I got into room, took off my clothes, and requested a shower. Lady granted, so, went for a quick clean up. Then lay on the bed with in a minute. She gave me a so so massage, then asked me to flp over. The She started with light licking on my nips, and I explored her white silky skin, very smooth, like it so much. My hand quickly climbed up to the D-mountains, heavy, soft. She moved down, give me a so so CBJ, after that, I asked to lay down, my turn to enjoy her D mountains. Started with light lick on one side, pushing her half inch tit till she moaned. Then take a big full mouth of mountain. Nice. Switch around both mountains, then was going down south, but she not allowed. Then go no choice, straight into main entree. Started with mish, end with doggy. On doggy, grabbed a full hand of heavy smooth soft ballon full of hot water. Superb.

After completed, chat a little, then off I go. The only down side of here is, the damage increase. 2

Look 7
Body 8
D-rack
110lbs
5'2"
massage 5
Attitude 6
Service 7
Damage $.6

Hayas

Dan Wesson

01-03-08, 21:27

I did not get the name of the therapist, but she was older and definitely not May, who was also there when I went for my 2nd massage. And judging by the descriptions in other posts, it was not Annie (who last probably the other therapist there when I visited the first time). In my opinion May and Annie are much more attractive. But my therapist gave a great massage.

I will definitely go back, but probably make an appointment with May or Annie next time.I believe the therapist is named Ling (not sure how to spell). She gives a very good relaxing massage, as does May. I like the help getting dressed, makes ya feel like a king!

Annie does not give massages to my knowledge, just manages the office. I shot the breeze with her a bit last time. She is friggin smokin lookin. If you do get a massage from her. Fill us in.

Pika Pepper

01-03-08, 22:04

I've had Annie. Her massage is pretty good and she is attractive - reminds me of Chinese MaryAnne from Gilligan's Island. But no extras are avaiable. I am pretty sure that she gave extras when she worked at Lilly's, but as manager or part owner of Mayspa, she would get in big trouble if caught by LE. When a therapist, not manager or owner, gets caught, management can always claim that they knew nothings about what went on behind closed doors. I am not so familiar with Mass laws, but in other states the consequences for pandering (being the boss) is much much worse than being a prostitute. On the other hand, pandering is much harder to prove.

Aprilia Rsv

01-04-08, 09:52

I am pretty sure that she gave extras when she worked at Lilly's, but as manager or part owner of Mayspa, she would get in big trouble if caught by LE. When a therapist, not manager or owner, gets caught, management can always claim that they knew nothings about what went on behind closed doors.

My only comment would be that this logic doesn't work for providers like Angel

Maybe you need to offer her more $$ :)

Big Bobby35

01-04-08, 10:46

That Annie is not doing any extras. To a point where May has stated to a few here not this time, maybe next time. Boss doesnt want that here. And why would you offer more $$ for a HE that is still worth less than. 4?

Sorry for my rant, but just gave info to a bud on a great MP. Told him door fee (. 8), and extras fee (. 2-. 6). All told there was a great thing going on for 1. 2. 1. 4 depending upon girl you got and YMMV with each. Was fantastic. Well what does this retard do? Pushes the envelope and has started giving 1. 60! Every fucking time. Jackass move. Well now the girls get wind of it (not asian MP mind you), and they all want the big bucks. Dumb, dumb, dumb! On some back channels I did find out that local LE are looking into them, so maybe a good time to get out.

Grrr. Like I said before, a good thing never lasts forever.

Ho Hunter 328

01-04-08, 11:00

I am not so familiar with Mass laws, but in other states the consequences for pandering (being the boss) is much much worse than being a prostitute. On the other hand, pandering is much harder to prove.

Yes, the penalties are far more severe in Mass...

Chapter 272: Section 6. Owner of place inducing or suffering person to resort in such place for sexual intercourse

Section 6. Whoever, being the owner of a place or having or assisting in the management or control thereof induces or knowingly suffers a person to resort to or be in or upon such place, for the purpose of unlawfully having sexual intercourse for money or other financial gain, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of five years and a five thousand dollar fine.

The sentence of imprisonment imposed under this section shall not be reduced to less than two years, nor suspended, nor shall any person convicted under this section be eligible for probation, parole, or furlough or receive any deduction from his sentence for good conduct or otherwise until he shall have served two years of such sentence. Prosecutions commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding nor placed on file.

Chapter 272: Section 7. Support from, or sharing, earnings of prostitute

Section 7. Whoever, knowing a person to be a prostitute, shall live or derive support or maintenance, in whole or in part, from the earnings or proceeds of his prostitution, from moneys loaned, advanced to or charged against him by any keeper or manager or inmate of a house or other place where prostitution is practiced or allowed, or shall share in such earnings, proceeds or moneys, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of five years and by a fine of five thousand dollars.

The sentence of imprisonment imposed under this section shall not be reduced to less than two years, nor suspended, nor shall any person convicted under this section be eligible for probation, parole, or furlough or receive any deduction from his sentence for good conduct or otherwise until he shall have served two years of such sentence. Prosecutions commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding nor placed on file.

Chapter 272: Section 53A. Engaging in sexual conduct for a fee; engaging in sexual conduct with child under age 14 for a fee; penalties

Section 53A. (a) Whoever engages, agrees to engage, or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee, or whoever pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay another person to engage in sexual conduct, or to agree to engage in sexual conduct with another natural person, shall be punished by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more than 1 year or by a fine of not more than $500 or by both such imprisonment and fine, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.

(b) Whoever pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay any person with the intent to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 14, or whoever is paid, agrees to pay, or agrees that a third person be paid in return for aiding a person who intends to engage in sexual conduct with a child under the age of 14, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 10 years or in the house of correction for not more than 2 1/2 years, whether such sexual conduct occurs or not.

While I'm doing the cut and paste thing, here's a law some of you should also be aware of...

Chapter 272: Section 14. Adultery

Section 14. A married person who has sexual intercourse with a person not his spouse or an unmarried person who has sexual intercourse with a married person shall be guilty of adultery and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in jail for not more than two years or by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars.

Horny Henry

01-04-08, 13:10

I went there once when they first opened. They now have showers and sauna. I didn't have an luck with extras, didn't even get flipped.

Has anyone had a different or similar experience there? The massage was awesome. But I like desert with my meals.

Feel free to post of BC me.

Their web site: http://thaihealinghandsspa.com/

HH

WebDog

01-04-08, 15:26

And why would you offer more $$ for a HE that is still worth less than. 4?

Sorry for my rant, but just gave info to a bud on a great MP. Told him door fee (. 8), and extras fee (. 2-. 6). All told there was a great thing going on for 1. 2. 1. 4 depending upon girl you got and YMMV with each. Was fantastic. Well what does this retard do? Pushes the envelope and has started giving 1. 60! Every fucking time. Jackass move. Well now the girls get wind of it (not asian MP mind you), and they all want the big bucks. Dumb, dumb, dumb!Big Bobby, where were you when I needed back-up??

I am glad at least you're here now.

You have articulated -- with a real life example no less -- precisely the point I was travel to convey to my fellow travelers a couple weeks ago. Exactly. You nailed it.

Everyone jumped over my shit saying "I enjoy the massage more if I tip more" and "treat them like human beings, not sex workers" blah, blah, bullshit. Like I am just some kind of cheap bastard and they're all playas.

I over-tip in just about everything I do -- bartenders, waitresses, with take-out, etc. I do that because I get better results and better relationships. And yes, sometimes I do feel like a big-shot when I do.

However, I do not over-tip with an AMP nor SWs for exactly the reasons that Big Bobby mentions. I may strategically extra-tip with someone like Angel who I see more often. But even there I am cautious because I know I will spoil it for me and for the next guy.

I didn't go to an AMP for the first time last month. I developed my perversion at an early age and have invested enough time and money to know (i.e., learned the hard way) that overtipping an AMP provider just ruins a good thing.

Dan Wesson

01-04-08, 21:18

On some back channels I did find out that local LE are looking into them, so maybe a good time to get out.And where might this place be? I don't want to wander into any drama.

Triesharder

01-05-08, 02:55

Hayas

01-06-08, 23:59

Hey Hayas,

Even though your English sucks, your report was delightful. At least I enjoyed it. Thanks man.Thanks for the compliment, Tries. I will try harder to improve as much as I can.

Hayas

Big Bobby35

01-07-08, 10:57

It is a SPA, farthest thing from lets say a Mandela's. Kinda stumbled across it. Reason why I got back-channeled about LE was that girl friend went to competing spa for hair and got told about it, WHILE I WAS AT OTHER SPA. Like I said got back-channel info that LE was looking into it (or could just be competition starting shit).

I will forward info back channel, but only with people who have put forth good intel before. See my previous posts on reviews.

Webdog: I didn't get caught up in the drama before, or didn't want to about tipping. I do think I share your same opinion - if the girl BLOWS your socks off, then give her a big smile!!! Why spend on two 'sessions', what you could have 3 instead!!!

Dan Wesson

01-07-08, 17:57

It is a SPA, farthest thing from lets say a Mandela's.Speaking of Mandala. I made a venture there recently. There is a distinct lack of younger women there. I ended up with Jen who is late 30's, early 40's, decent looking, nice rack. Went to the downstairs dungeon room. Got a so-so massage on the back, shoulders and legs. Then some nice teasing. On the flip I slid my hand over her shirt and asked if she could take it off. Answer was for a good tip. What is a good tip these days? Answer $1. WOW! Are they kidding? I declined and said maybe next time (didn't want to jeopardize my HE). To her credit, she gives great ending. Since I declined on the topless roaming, I think she felt the need to tell me the HE tip was $.5.
Damn! Take them off my list. I left $.4 on the table so I am sure I am off her list now.

Spinnerluvr

01-07-08, 20:07

Speaking of Mandala. I made a venture there recently. There is a distinct lack of younger women there. I ended up with Jen who is late 30's, early 40's, decent looking, nice rack. Went to the downstairs dungeon room. Got a so-so massage on the back, shoulders and legs. Then some nice teasing. On the flip I slid my hand over her shirt and asked if she could take it off. Answer was for a good tip. What is a good tip these days? Answer $1. WOW! Are they kidding? I declined and said maybe next time (didn't want to jeopardize my HE). To her credit, she gives great ending. Since I declined on the topless roaming, I think she felt the need to tell me the HE tip was $.5.

Damn! Take them off my list. I left $.4 on the table so I am sure I am off her list now.Thats what you get for asking, if given the chance they will jack the price up on you every time.

First, i wouldn't have asked. I would have went for the roam and let her say no, if she didn't i would not have asked her "whats a good tip" your lucky she didn't reply 2. and a buck for the HE.

Either lay the tip .4 is typical for a HR or leave it at the end after the HE.

You NEVER ask.

Its like telling a car salesman, ok, i'll pay the sticker, he will say SOLD!

Every time you over tip the girls you are not only screwing yourself but the rest of us too by drving up the price!

Turbonium K

01-08-08, 18:21

Speaking of tips and topless...

Decided to hit-up the usual, only none of the regular girls were there that day. I was paired with a new lady (far from girl, high-40s?) named Nico or Nicole, I couldn't really tell what she was saying!

The good: damn, this lady knows how to give a massage! Best massage I'd gotten at an AMP to-date. Usually they just treat it like 45 minutes to kill before they flip you over...

The better: I asked (nicely, mind you) for her top to come off, and she had no problems with it! No asking about tip or anything, and they are easily C-cups, damn nice boobs for her age I must say!

And to the Tip: So now I feel like a cheap MoFo, because up until lately I'd been tipping .4 until the discussions on here for bringing it back down to .3 - so I tipped her .3

Truth is, she wasn't the masseuse I would have ideally want to be paired with, but she not only gave a great massage but also got topless, let me roam freely (note: I didn't ask or even try to go into the pants) gave a great HR and cleaned me up nicely.

The Bad: damn the look on her face when she looked at my tip and only saw .3! I definitely did not get the "okay, baby. see you again!" line like usual.

Moral of my story: I plan to continue tipping .3 for what I will deem "standard" service, but I'll keep .4 ready for a little extra special treatment or for a girl I'd like to see regularly, and .5 if I am needing to let her know I'll be back and hoping for more! I'm going to have my own opinion rating system determining what amount of tip to give, because there is obviously no right-or-wrong here, it's all based on how well we are treated/serviced.

At the end of the day, I never want to be black-listed as the "cheap bastard" - because I've got needs, dammit! :)

Oxy Moron

01-08-08, 18:38

Long time listener, first time caller.

I went to FY in Arlington today. I used to see Susan in CT and RebeccaBoston but since they are both long gone, I needed to try some new places. I asked for Lisa, based on a previous report here, but she wasn't in today. I drew Anna. Minimum English, pretty good looking, below the shoulder length hair. She asked if I wanted the shower, so I undressed, put on the robe and slippers, and followed her there. The shower was short and perfunctory, with no attention to where I was hoping for some. She dried me off, led me back to the room, and covered me with a towel to start the massage (medium.) Massage was excellent, almost as good as Susan's, but she kept me partly covered with the towel for the duration. As she finished she started the light fingertip massage, and as her leg was next to my hand, I returned the favor. Then she told me to turn over, and put her hand in mine to direct it to where I wanted her to rub. Her technique was quite good, not too hard like Susan, but not as sensuous as Rebecca was. I was allowed to roam outside the clothing with no objection. She slowly brought me along and the finish left me writhing. Nice. She cleaned me up with the hot towels. I dressed, she gave me a hug and I walked out smiling.

$70 house, $30 tip

Big Adventure

01-08-08, 23:47

First, i wouldn't have asked. I would have went for the roam and let her say no, if she didn't i would not have asked her "whats a good tip" your lucky she didn't reply 2. and a buck for the HE.

Either lay the tip .4 is typical for a HR or leave it at the end after the HE.

You NEVER ask.I didn't have the benefit of Jack's good advice, but it seems dead on. In December, I visited Mandala and had a terrific massage from Kit. She's pretty, but not a younger woman. I asked for a sensual, full-body massage. There was no discussion of a tip. The massage was definitely both. Before the flip, I offered some positive reinforcement. After the flip, I had a long massage with one hand teasing and one hand roaming over the rest of my body. She knew what she was doing. When time was running out, Kit finished with a superb ending. I probably should have tried roaming more, but only touched her up and down her back and legs.

Kit said something sweet and started to walk out, I had to stop her and give her. 4 tip. I'm not a fan of raising the prices, but I'm glad I didn't go too low. I definitely plan to go back. (And I got the sense they wanted me to come back as well! ).

One final thought. I do adore the attention I often get undressing and dressing in AMP's. That's was definitely not part of my visit to Mandala.

Phuqued

01-09-08, 01:27

Been kinda slow with the holidays (you know, the time in Boston between a week before Thanksgiving and mid-February), and I haven't been hobbying much.

I made an appointment with Angel today. When I arrived, Angel was busy with someone else, and Amy wanted me to go with her. Been there, done that, and I wasn't feeling desperate, and I told Amy that I would come back when Angel was available. Amy called for Angel in Chinese, and Angel came out to the lobby and tried to persuade me to stay with Amy. I declined and told Angel that I would come back, but she asked me to wait, then she came out and told me it would be a few minutes. I hope that whoever had to leave wasn't one of you guys. Unless you're an asshole, then I don't care.

Anyway, it was a good massage with lots of rear end work. Release was face down, and I didn't try for second pop after the flip. Facial at end. .6 plus .4 tip. Gave both upon entry ala WD.

I feel the need for a Cuidad Juarez trip soon.

Stressed Out

01-09-08, 12:58

[QUOTE=Oxy Moron]Long time listener, first time caller.

I went to FY in Arlington today. I used to see Susan in CT and RebeccaBoston but since they are both long gone,

I just wanted to add a comment. I agree with you about Rebecca. She was a gem not only in beauty but in class. I never had a bad visit and she was always smiling. I hope she found happiness in her new life!!!

Spaz2580

01-09-08, 13:58

Stopped going years ago when they raised their prices for the hour session and the woman asked for. 6 for HE. Avg massage, blase attitude.

Dan Wesson

01-09-08, 21:16

Every time you over tip the girls you are not only screwing yourself but the rest of us too by drving up the price!OK, not to drag out this discussion any more than it has been, but explain to me how my tipping too high is driving up your price? You seem positive in your ability to just leave $.2 or $.3, so why not just do it. If your approach is not to ask and just leave what you feel you should, then you should just do it.

My personal feeling on this topic is that dining out is a bigger tip scam. The server brings the same number of plates whether I order lobster or meatloaf, so why tip based on the meal value. Sorry about this one, but I think it came by as an analogy previously, so I thought I would abuse it a bit.

When I get a massage, I get an hour of someone's attention, so if it is a reasonable massage, that in itself is worth $.2 (unless the door fee is $1). A good happy ending is worth another $.2, at least to me.

As far as asking, I have had the experience twice with a MP (not AMP) provider checking the tip before I left and giving me shit on the way out. It seems some would prefer to get nothing rather than less than they "think" they are worth. Hence, I ask. That kinda crap does not add to my total experience!

Don't read this as mean spirited as it is not intended to be. Just MHO.

Rosine

01-10-08, 01:56

OK, not to drag out this discussion any more than it has been, but explain to me how my tipping too high is driving up your price? .

Basic free market economics. When you overpay and prices are non static, it inflates the price of goods and services. Isn't that basic? Chicks get into the game thinking, "I wish I could just get $50 every now and again," then a few clowns pay $100 to watch her play with herself and the price suddenly goes through the roof for the basics. Don't overpay when you don't have to, if not for yourself, but for everyone else. Pretty elementary rule of the game. Thanks in advance for changing your ways. ;)

Shooter6

01-10-08, 02:25

Basic free market economics. When you overpay and prices are non static, it inflates the price of goods and services. Isn't that basic? Chicks get into the game thinking, "I wish I could just get $50 every now and again," then a few clowns pay $100 to watch her play with herself and the price suddenly goes through the roof for the basics. Don't overpay when you don't have to, if not for yourself, but for everyone else. Pretty elementary rule of the game. Thanks in advance for changing your ways. ;)I think the question Dan was really asking was "How is it your business what he tips"? The same principle applies to everything. Some people tip more or less than 15% in restaurants. Others tip mailmen, doormen, security guards etc. At Christmastime. Some tip hairstylists/barbers, some don't. Some drive a hard bargain when they buy vehicles, some are content to pay darn near sticker price.

All of that affects what others may expect and how they view you for what you choose to give. How you tip may affect the service you get. Your barber may or may not make time to see you on short notice, your doorman may or may not help you with groceries, etc. Your service may vary based upon what others have decided to tip these people in comparison to what you tipped or didn't tip.

I don't give anyone a hard time for what they do or don't pay for, and I don't really care what anyone else thinks about what I give out.

People have made good cases on both sides of this issue, and I encourage them to do what they are comfortable with.

If you tip what you feel is warranted, you don't feel ripped off for tipping too much. You also don't feel bad if they make a stink, you know what they want doesn't work for you and you can move on. Just like shopping for anything else.

BostonBread

01-10-08, 10:20

After reading for a long time about "don't spoil 'em" and pay what you want, I find the conversations on this board amazingly similar to what went on with OPEC. Thus, rather than debate this back and forth, I suggest we start a new organization called OMAS (Organization of Mongers Amping Services) where we fix the price of tipping. Oh, like OPEC, individuals will certainly "cheat" in the hopes of getting better service, but at least on the outside, it will be a united front. Is there anything illegal about this? (this post is entirely to make one laugh at ourselves).

True Hobbiest

01-10-08, 15:32

Mothball

01-10-08, 19:24

60 house in 100 tip should be that simple for great FS. That's what it is almost everywhere they have FS AMPs. This nickel and dimming to cop a feel or get a hand job is kids stuff or maybe I'm too jaded. I may just have to spend more time in CA, DC, NJ and PA for what I'm talking about. Too bad most of CT dried up. Man I remember when you could get it all for a .80 in Lowell.

Play safe, stay safe,

THYup. The HK was special. Well worth the drive. All these other places can't compare. I went to CH last month -very disappointed. Once you've had steak...

Great board here but the cat fighting gets to me. I don't chime in unless I have something good to share. The dribble from some kills the purpose. Just report for others -it's that simple. No crap or half-assed poetry etc. -just info. And forget the "Senior Member" screening. If LE wnats the info they'll get it. Don't kid yourself. I'm sure there are LE "senior members" out here. It's not hard. Some of these senior members feel like they're a member of Congress or something-LOL. Makes me want to keep info to myself when I read. That wasn't Jackson's goal. I was one of the first to report Angel's but.

Dan Wesson

01-10-08, 22:20

Dan Wesson

01-10-08, 22:25

Thus, rather than debate this back and forth, I suggest we start a new organization called OMAS (Organization of Mongers Amping Services) where we fix the price of tipping.Has a nice ring to it. I could just picture that meeting. A rather interesting collection of "sheiks" convening as the world eagerly awaits our decision on the value of a HE. Sounds news worthy to me.

Perhaps we could also issue USASG member cards..."don't get a massage without one".

Thanks for lightening this debate up Meal!

AmpExplorer

01-11-08, 08:11

Should we start a new section for solely about the discussion of the ''nuances'' to good mongering where discussions can be on matters being discussed such as tipping, critique of generals as opposed to specific reviews.

Be it from an a(a)mp , escort or even strip club experienes?

Zacksmith

01-11-08, 10:18

WebDog

01-11-08, 12:01

That was more or less the point I was making. No small group of over-tippers can jack up the "rate" for all. Besides, I don't provide obscene tips. Also, I don't reward providers that expect or dictate what the tip should be or provide second rate performance, I avoid them.
This is all fair enough. I am not picking a fight with anyone and these are not outlandish statements.

One caveat is that many of us are reacting out frustration from personal experience, where a good provider started up'ing tip expectations and/or lowering service expectations, and where the providers themselves are transparent that someone else gave her a better deal so her benchmark just raised.

Unlike restaurants and dining out, there are far fewer AMPs, SWs, and escorts -- it is a much smaller economy and the actions of a few have a bigger impact.

To those who have said it, you are 100% absolutely right that it is your business and your prerogative what you tip.

Will offer this little anecdote... I have enjoyed going to some clubs in the south which offer $5 lapdances with as much mileage as anywhere you'll find. These places rock! Imagine an entire room of undulating waves of brown rounds -- all girls grinding as far as the eye can see.

The girls there are making as much money as any LD club (maybe not PVD brothels but your typical LD club). How is this possible? Because clubs where they're charging $20-$30 or now as much as $40-$50 (!!) for lapdances, the girls are sitting around 90% of the time. And they're paying for every hour they're there.

Imagine a place where as soon as she is done someone is yelling "git over here!" for any available girl -- none of this soul-crushing having to proposition guys and being rejected 9 out of 10 times. From what I am told, that is the worst part of being a stripper -- not the dick rubbing.

But in these clubs, you do NOT overtip. Do that once and you will find out why (yes, I learned the hard way). I can't imagine many make that mistake twice.

Am I suggesting $5 Handjobs?? No, of course not. But it is worth noting that when buyers cooperate, prices can be kept low without ruining anyone's life in the process (i.e., we're talking about women making as much money as up here and being happy with the process).

Stressed Out

01-11-08, 22:41

I saw on the news last night that LE busted an AMP operating out of Wellesley yesterday. I never visited this establishment, but it is still scary. The news reported (Fox25) said they took an "activity log" out of the apartment. What the hell is that? This kind of stuff can really turn someone off hobbying. Nothing is safe.

there are a couple that I know of. Any idea which one it was? I checked the fox website but didn't see anything.

BTW - there was also a bust in Dedham of an AMP. I believe it was the one that adv as 'near the Dedham Mall' in the Phoenix. Also an escort by the name of Jessica was busted at the Holiday Inn in Dedham last Saturday. Everyone be careful out there!!

Shooter6

01-12-08, 02:52

Anyone been there fairly recently? I've been thinking of going for no other reason than I haven't yet. However the most recent TER write ups specifically mention only one pop nowadays.

Also curious what the current knapp situation is, as that is the other CT location I have not been to.

Any info here or by pm appreciated.

Rufus617

01-13-08, 06:06

there are a couple that I know of. Any idea which one it was? I checked the fox website but didn't see anything.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5452642

WebDog

01-13-08, 14:50

http://www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5452642
From the sound of it (not that simply being in Wellesley wasn't reason enough) it was a guarantee that place was going to be bust. Between neighbors and the neighbors, WPD's phone was no doubt ringing off the hook.

In Wellesley you can't even buy a beer, you think they're going to let something like that pass?

Thickone

01-15-08, 22:47

Jackfranklin

01-16-08, 11:31

Angels moved to Union Street, Framingham. If you want a really good deep tissue massage, including having your backside walked on, this is the place. I wasn't offered any extras either but didn't ask either. She does end each massage though asking if your all set.

Pika Pepper

01-16-08, 11:39

Do any of you guys know where Angel from Ashland is? She used to give massages in a hair salon on route 126 in Ashland. The massages were really good and quite a workout. I never asked for extras, but it seemed that they may have been available. The name of the massage establishment was "Angle's Magic Touch. " Last time I went by there it was a Super Cuts location.Angel's in now located in Framingham.

Angel's Unisex Hair Salon
158 Union Ave
Framingham, MA 01702
(508) 879-3416

I have been there twice and had two excellent massages, but no extras.

Member #4063

01-16-08, 13:21

She has moved to Framingham and is in the phone book. Went once massage was ok abslolutely no extras, but it was not provided by an Asian lady, but a black one.

AmpExplorer

01-16-08, 16:26

Haven't been to Angels since she moved. I m no longer in the area to visit but the massage is legit. She can give you an intense deep tissue. Walk on your back and also has a nice light touch.

I certainly let my body express itself one session but Angel kept out of any wanted territory.

She finished the session and hinted if I needed any papertowels or tissues they were on the counter. And left the room.

I certainly used them. Then I came out of the room and she gave me a nice haircut.

I wouldn't go there if you are looking for extras from her. But I can't speak for what goes on in framingham or her other staff.

Dan Wesson

01-16-08, 20:24

I used to go to Angels both in Ashland and Framingham. Angel herself has a firm policy of no extras, no exceptions. She gives a great massage and can do both deep and light. Her light massage is awesome and she gets teasingly close but no touching.

Having said that, she has had a series of girls, mostly from Cambodia (as that is where she is from) that bent the rules. Since they leave rather abruptly, I assume she eventually finds out and fires them.

Since she moved to Framingham, she has had only a couple who would do extras and they are both gone. The black girl is Jennifer and she may tease but no extras. The only other person who also worked there last I knew was Soleek (spelling?) that is her niece and she is strictly massage.

Haven't been there in 6 months. There you have it.

Jstyre

01-18-08, 14:20

So, mass ave in arlington seems to boast 3 MP's. 4ever, golden water, and bejing. I've posted about 4ever, but haven't been to the other 2. Anyone have any experiences to share?

And please, no "golden water" jokes. I'm sure it means something wonderful in Thai.

Mr Boston

01-18-08, 15:14

From the sound of it (not that simply being in Wellesley wasn't reason enough) it was a guarantee that place was going to be bust. Between neighbors and the neighbors, WPD's phone was no doubt ringing off the hook.

In Wellesley you can't even buy a beer, you think they're going to let something like that pass?Very poor business sense. Advertising that you are open 24/7 in a location like that, or anyplace, frankly, here in Puritan New England, is an invitation to trouble.

And I almost went there recently! Yikes!

Eric 58

01-20-08, 10:30

A recent post on CL:

"The Korean massage ''brookline JUNG''
Date: 2008-01-19, 11:31AM EST

Hi !! I am Jung. Who previously did Korean massage in Brookline.
I am now at 231 Newbury St, Boston.
Call for appointment 201-926-1230

Thank you !"

Has anyone been to see her?

Ampman44

01-21-08, 10:54

I saw her and it was not good.

A recent post on CL:

"The Korean massage ''brookline JUNG''
Date: 2008-01-19, 11:31AM EST

Hi !! I am Jung. Who previously did Korean massage in Brookline.
I am now at 231 Newbury St, Boston.
Call for appointment 201-926-1230

Thank you !"

Has anyone been to see her?

Basil

01-21-08, 14:06

Big Bobby35

01-21-08, 14:47

Not necessarily a review, but a little possible info. And maybe how bad it has gotten out there. Or has it?

AMP A- highly rated quincy area AMP or skin service (angel) AMP B- A southern Maine AMP that has been reviewed on maine board. (mimi)

Both approx. Same cost up front, and extras on avg. Looking for. 4. Decided to see both with in 3 days of each other.

AMP A- Highly enthusiastic, friendly, and no issues with asking for "2 today". My only problem was catching her late on Friday afternoon (after 4pm) and seemed to do majority of massage with her feet. Couldn't get pop to "happen". Cold medication? Flipped and got great pop, w/views.didn't push for lower view/touch. Did more massage and literally tried for 2nd pop with everything she had. I swear she stretched me anouther 1. 5 inches. Was very persistant. Top down put hands on her chest, side mount russian, everything. I swear it was cold mecidine that made me last like john holmes.

She worked her damndest even though I said no problem not to worry, next time. Lots of work and left. 4 for efforts. Vote = 2 thumbs up.

AMP B. Weird experience. Same as last time, which was BAD. Get shown in by MIMI much older 40+ easy. Young girl comes in (uh oh looking UP! ) takes sheet over my body and caresses smoothly. Next hops up to sit on my butt and massage (sheet still on? ). Sheet comes off and more soft caressing. Waiting for the boys to get the wakey wakey. Nothing, up and leaves. Mimi back in teases back and ass, then "flip". While asking if I want "tug tug". Yup. She sees I am barely aroused, so grabs my hand and puts it on me to go! I look at her weird and grab her hand put in on and say that is much better. When she grabs me I see the size of her hands.-- I swear she has catchers mitts! Fucking HUGE!

Un-inspired and creeepy. Should have got a movie. Left. 2 she didn't like it, but it was maybe 30min total.

Mass is bad, but it could get worse!

Member #4063

01-21-08, 15:22

I had seen her once in her old Brookline location the Korean Barbershop. Went only once, massage was only fair, prepaid for poor ending never repeated.

Jack

Dan Wesson

01-21-08, 19:28

I did feel bad though, only tipped her 20 and she really wanted 40 but I just didn't fell like the experience deserved anymore.Sounds to me than a more than fair tip for "just" a mediocre massage. What made you think she really wanted more?

Mr Boston

01-23-08, 10:25

A recent post on CL:

"The Korean massage ''brookline JUNG''

Has anyone been to see her?I went to her years ago, soon after she first opened. Massage was great, but very limited extras, no roaming, etc.

AsianLPGAfan

01-23-08, 17:32

Jung gave a good massage during the cold of winter.She had an option of a hot towel wrap which was good.She provided a decent massage the extra options ...pointing to the anatomy poster is certainly not the feature of her massage experience but provided a decent balanced experience.

The question to be deternined would she provide the warm towel wrap with a decent massage. I haven't called her but the email states a massage is 100 but not much else was stated.

I think the price is on the highside for the value I could find from an amp unless we hear if anyone has anything to report.

Dan Wesson

01-23-08, 20:29

Made a trip to Tui-Na in Framingham on Franklin St. She advertises on CL quite often. Saw some old reports here so I thought I'd give it a shot.

She is in a small office building, plenty of parking. She seems to have space in a professional office, not sure what as I went on Saturday and no one was there. She has a small room with her desk and a curtain/sheet hanging, behind which is the table. I would guess she is late 40's (but it is tough to tell) and to me she looked rather matronly (not a real first impression turn-on). Anyway, got undressed and laid down. Massage was OK, not great. Tried to get some high thigh action but it was rather clinical, no brushups. On the flip, still covered and no close action. Made a few motions to massage the bone, but no reaction one way or the other. Based on what I read in previous reports, I was not about to finish myself. $. 6 in and $. 1 tip. Overall, cannot recommend, massage was a 6 at best, looks (no comment) and extras seemed unlikely.

Bj4242

01-23-08, 21:18

Life877

01-24-08, 09:33

Stan Daround

01-24-08, 12:37

Has anyone toftt in NReading?

The ads have popped up again on CL. Ad indicates chinese massage with available shower.

Chipsahoy

01-24-08, 23:33

I think Mr. Wesson is a gentleman. In his charitable account of his recent adventures, if his experience was like mine, he could have been A LOT more caustic.

But me, however.

I too was recently in Framingham on a weekend's ramble, and was disappointed by all elements of my visit. Poor massage, sterile environment, overly weathered provider, and absolutely no extras. In fact, she became somewhat dismayed (and dare I say annoyed) that I would even imply something more be part of the experience.

While I acknowledge that our hobby is full of nuance and vaugery, still, someone who posts and advertises should at least understand what potentially might be expected. Enough said? Perhaps. Except to say that in these days that I'm beginning to prepare my pathetic tax return, it is clear that the twenty dollars it requires to drive my mongermobile to Rhody's border might be the smartest investment I could make in 2008.

Massage: 4
Looks: 4
Convenience: 8 (the parking was very good)
Tariff: .6 +.1
Likelihood of return: 0

Vicesquad

01-25-08, 00:31

Saw Tina today in Quincy, I had not been in a while and it was my first time being massaged by her, usually I see her assistant Emily. Tina wasn't that good, she's kinda cute but wouldn't remove any clothes and definatly would not give extras, all the reasons I like Emily. I did feel bad though, only tipped her 20 and she really wanted 40 but I just didn't fell like the experience deserved anymore. More of a ***** session than a report I guess, but just had to get it off my chest. Has anyone that has seen tina had a different expereince? Maybe it was just a bad day.I have seen Emily, with her experience and rate of customers I am surprised she does not have carpel tunnel syndrome from all that repetitive action her wrists have to do. With all that has been spent there she could open a sperm bank..)) Tina is good and at least much more fun to get a massage with, She is younger and cute, Emily is a older it seems the only service she is good at is the by hand. The first floor has older women, tried there twice when I was going to go upstairs but so so massage and the usual happy ending. Last time I went I had to close my eyes and picture Tina to get off, that was because the woman who works part time was not very attractive. Oh well, any other good suggestions for Quincy, It seems hit and miss.

Night Cruiser

01-25-08, 02:46

Rito1

01-25-08, 12:29

I have seen Emily, with her experience and rate of customers I am surprised she does not have carpel tunnel syndrome from all that repetitive action her wrists have to do. With all that has been spent there she could open a sperm bank..)) Tina is good and at least much more fun to get a massage with, She is younger and cute, Emily is a older it seems the only service she is good at is the by hand. The first floor has older women, tried there twice when I was going to go upstairs but so so massage and the usual happy ending. Last time I went I had to close my eyes and picture Tina to get off, that was because the woman who works part time was not very attractive. Oh well, any other good suggestions for Quincy, It seems hit and miss.
Angel;s on hancock st.

Vicesquad

01-25-08, 19:08

Angel;s on hancock st.I have tried Angels, Amy was my choice but still looking for a good place that provides more, any suggestions, PM me please. I know the apartment places come and go but would like to find a good fs place soon.

Dan Wesson

01-25-08, 21:36

With all due respect guys, maybe this lady is trying to be legit. I haven't seen her add so I can't really say much more. I have in the past been to places that only gave massages. Just my 2 cents.I hear ya Night, but my visit was made based on an earlier report from fellow member, Spaz2580 below:

"I went last week, Linda share's office space with a caucasian woman who practices accupuncture I believe. Linda's looks ok, around late 30s or early 40s. She wore a white cotton dress. On the flip I asked for HE, she said DIY which I did. Roamed under her dress on her underwear and up on her top. She was a bit reluctant, but I was persistent. Gave. 4 tip. Would go back."

So I figured there may be some improvement in the available extras. This does not sound like legit behavior. Hell, I may have even accepted a DIY if there was some roaming (well maybe). However, that was not the case.

So based just on the quality of the massage, I would still go elsewhere.

Dan Wesson

01-25-08, 21:44

Bosoxfan

01-25-08, 23:54

I will be visiting MASS next week. Looking for MP or AMP that does body slide or will give HE in TS and then give decent massage. Also what would be appropriate tip. I have only been to MP overseas. I have read the forums and see that $ is good for FS.

Thanks

Bj4242

01-26-08, 00:24

Hey all,

Any intel on the new masseuse at Lily's in Rockland? The first time I went there was a bust (not the literal kind, thank god) since there were NO extras, Lily is a 3, and there was no privacy. CL indicates that they've upgraded to private rooms and have a new, younger asian girl working there.

Any info is much appreciated!Sometimes the language barrier with AMP's is a real pain in the ass.

I went back the other night and even though I asked for Annie on the phone, Lily marched in and began working on me. No luck. I think it's time to give up on this place. Oh, and if it was one of you lucky lads that ended up with Annie next door and claimed "oh yah, this is my first time getting a massage" and "not yet, got lotsa layers on", please let me know how it went (you bullshitter, haha).

PS. Anyone heard of Amy in Framingham? Hot pics, low quoted rates, seems too good to be true. Any info is appreeshed.

Night Cruiser

01-26-08, 03:52

I hear ya Night, but my visit was made based on an earlier report from fellow member, Spaz2580 below:

"I went last week, Linda share's office space with a caucasian woman who practices accupuncture I believe. Linda's looks ok, around late 30s or early 40s. She wore a white cotton dress. On the flip I asked for HE, she said DIY which I did. Roamed under her dress on her underwear and up on her top. She was a bit reluctant, but I was persistent. Gave. 4 tip. Would go back."

So I figured there may be some improvement in the available extras. This does not sound like legit behavior. Hell, I may have even accepted a DIY if there was some roaming (well maybe). However, that was not the case.

So based just on the quality of the massage, I would still go elsewhere.
Maybe next time you can show her a Jacksons in advance!! :) $$ talks.

Troutman

01-29-08, 09:31

Sounds to me than a more than fair tip for "just" a mediocre massage. What made you think she really wanted more?
Don't they always want more?

Leggeddog

01-29-08, 11:04

Anyone been with the Asian mature lady Lina, she posts on CL everyday. Maybe too many times.

Louds911

01-29-08, 12:16

Any thoughts on amps in Malden?

KapitanKool

01-31-08, 16:52

I have visited this one 3 times now and have been satisfied everytime. It is a prure case of YMMV and each time a different need satisfied. Too bad they keep changing the women. Take your own weapons and stay safe.

Harderik

01-31-08, 18:09

Any fellow members got any advice on incall massages? Specifically, situations where the provider works from her home?

I have seen a couple CL ads that look promising in the MetroWest area, but I always think this can be a more difficult to guage situtation.

I tend to venture in the the MetroWest area (since RI is a more difficult jaunt) and the choices are somewhat limited, at least with respect to Amps. Boston is possible on a less frequent basis, but I have not scene many raving reports on the Watertown scene.

Thanks!I've found that the Watertown scene isn't too bad as long as you're clear about what you're looking for (or NOT looking for as the case may be). I tried Galen st. Recently and had a decent time of it. Just keep your eyes out for an adams apple and let the mamasan know that's not what you're into. Or maybe it is what you're into. Who knows.

Stan Daround

02-01-08, 11:59

The MP in North Reading was shut down.

The local LE is comtemplating pressing charges against the owner of the license.

Falcon #2

02-01-08, 19:58

Anyone been with the Asian mature lady Lina, she posts on CL everyday. Maybe too many times.I have seen Lina, she is more full service than a massage provider, although if you ask for a massage , or if you are responding to one of her posts advertising massage, then I'm sure it is on the menu

Donation was 2 roses, service was ok, nice personality, the setting was so so

Leggeddog

02-02-08, 22:49

Finally got a chance to see her, you are right so so in the massage, it was on the menu but nice time, too business like. Didn't like her first floor apt. crowded. Left satisfied. Yep same $$ roses as advertised, seems much older.

Naples Beach

02-06-08, 11:39

Some previous posters had reports on Asian Wellness in Danvers and when I went looking for it a couple of weeks ago it had shut down. Or so I thought. It turns out that they only moved. They are now located up on Rt 1 north in Danvers. Tina is still there. I visited last week and had a very good massage and left extremely happy and relaxed. 7 at the door and. 4 tip. Well worth a visit for those who are north of Boston.

NB

Stressed Out

02-06-08, 14:04

Professional, full body release massage ONLY! Eselan style w/ some tantric overtones. Attractive, educated and professional woman! SWNH/SVT
http://touchtherapy.tripod.com/ for all info. Be respectful, mature minded & willing to supply a phone number!

your website after reading your post. We are always looking for new people and places for good massages. I was a little disappointed in some of the info (or lack of). First of all with every page change we had to deal with a pop-up ad. Now I realize that this might be necesary but still 6 ads in the short time I was reading is a little much. Secondly as far as the info left out I realize that we all have privacy issues (you as much as us) but some general info would be helpful. A general description of yourself would be helpful. You could be 20 or 50. You could be black, white of asian. Again it would be helpful for some of your audience. Also it doesn't sound like you move around but at least again a general location of where you practice would be good. (metro west/so of Boston/no of Boston) I would probably not take a chance on calling (that privacy thing) unless I knew I had a chance of making it to that location. While for some it doesn't matter for others it does. You also make it clear that it is a very theraputic full body massage. You emphasize the no 'touching' and no 'view' part of the session (which is fine.) While this does let everyone know the limits I think for most gents who read this site (correct me if I'm wrong guys) we do like the visual stimulation. (especially for 1.5). I hope you do well and maybe with some more info I might take a try and probably be glad I did. I wish you luck with your endeavor!

D8811

02-06-08, 23:49

Strike two

Although things started well for me a couple of months ago, things are less positive now.

THe massage is great, but that seems to be it now. I am used a decend happy ending there but the last two times was a no go.

Drew Annie yesterday. She appeared to be older (40s) but very attractive. Allowed a little roaming on top but little else. And as I said ... no HE

I need to find the right place in the Watertown/Newton area.

I'm open for suggestions if anyone wants to share. PM me

Keep smiling!

D8811

02-06-08, 23:52

Anyone know what happened there? They seemed to disappear.

Just when I was getting comfortable there <sigh>

Puckhead72

02-08-08, 09:53

I was curious if anyone remembers an aamp on rt.16 near tuxedo shop ? It was a nice massage w/ optional endings. I lost the number and do not know if it is still there any info would be appreciated.

Mothball

02-09-08, 08:22

Thanks for the 411 on Lina. Saved me $$.

Found a diamond in the rough. Older lady on CL in Theraputic who posts Quincy 3 times. Wierd ad -she's out there. Look through the dumpy apartment and you'll get one of the best massages going. She did a few things I ain't never had done before. First visit is $30? No FS but...

Cheers

Hjfetish

02-09-08, 23:02

I'm a newbie to this forum, but I've done a bit of mongering here and there, and I wanted to tell you guys about my experiences in both MA and RI. All of these reviews are based on meetups that I had in the past year.

First off is Dee from the South Shore (canton?). I met her for a 60 minute massage and HJ ending. She is a full figured, but not super obese or anything, lady in her late 30's. She smokes, but not during the session, although her house did reak of cigarettes. She is EXTREMELY enthusiastic and passionate. Even though I only purchased the massage, we kissed and she allowed heavy petting and fondling for the entire hour. I would definitely repeat.

I also saw a provider that was visiting from Baltimore named Sasha Martell. She provides a tantric lingam massage, and it was literally the wildest experience that I've ever had. I paid $$ for a hour session, and I was nervous about cumming too early, so I asked her what would happen if it ended early. She said that the session wouldn't end. She strokes your cock, then starts sucking. She also offers prostate, which I passed on. Anyway, she tells you upfront that it's meant to be an orgasm denial session. So everytime she feels you're about to blow, she stops and reverses hand direction or changes the way she is sucking. She never looked at the clock, and I was there for over 2 hours. She visits Boston once every month or two, and I can't wait to see her again! Sasha is a thick black beautiful woman.

I've also been to Michelle's Massage in Providence. Michelle is an extremely friendly and outgoing person. She's black, and I believe about 27 years old. For those of you looking for a real massage, Michelle isn't for you. She basically gives you a very nice and soothing back rub. The problem to me came after the flip. It's a massage with a happy ending, but my ending wasn't happy. She really doesn't tease at all. She basically just starts trying to whack you off as fast as possible. At the end, I ended up not cumming. The only thing that I can say is that her technique for the HJ wasn't something that I liked. There was no teasing involved at all. that might not bother some guys, but it does bother me. I've read other reports saying that she goes topless for the HE, but she wqouldn't remove the top when I asked her to.

I've also been to North Main Street Spa in Providence several times. I've had nothing but good experiences there. The first time I went, I got this incredible tease of a HJ from this very beautiful Asian woman, probably in her mid to late 20's. She'd lay all over you and teasingly stop just as you were on the brink. I am so pissed that I didn't get her name. The person that I usually see is Nana. I'd say that she is a petite, cute girl, probably mid 30's to about 40. I m a horrible judge of age. She gives a good TS, and a good soft massage, which is what I prefer. I really couldn't tell you how her massage skills are, because I alwaysa ask for the light, feather touch rub. I can tell you that she is excellent with that. I highly recommend Nana. The last time I went I had a young lady, probably early to mid 20's named Joanna. She's very cute, and affectionate. She actually kissed me on the mouth, which totally shocked me. She gives a good feathery light touch rub, and a decent HJ.

I also saw a woman from Cathouse Ladies named Autumn. She isn't there anymore, and I was told that she occasionally posts on CL for Incalls at her home in Nashua. She gave a very good massage, as well as a very slow, tesing HJ. She's probably 45-50, very short with big boobs. I definitely want to see her again!

Finally, I saw Renee from Providence. She advertises on CL as a tantric specialist. She is 27 years old. She is very friendly, but she is overweight. She lives in a very nice apartment, but she has a young child. The child wasn't there when I went, but I heard from somebody else that sometimes the child is there during the sessions. She gives an ok massage, but the "tantric" line is BS. She just gives a standard HJ, and she really doesn't "get into it",if you know what I mean. In fact, when I was close to finishing, she started yelling at her cat to catch this grasshopper that was in her living room. Overall, I'd say that she is very friendly, but she definitely doesn't do any tantric skills.

So that's about it. Have a great weekend everybody!

Ezdrift

02-10-08, 00:14

I saw her a few months ago when she first posted on CL. She is a bit odd, but gives a good massage, I agree. Did she where a glove for the finale? Either way 30 was a bargain.

Thanks for the 411 on Lina. Saved me $$.

Found a diamond in the rough. Older lady on CL in Theraputic who posts Quincy 3 times. Wierd ad -she's out there. Look through the dumpy apartment and you'll get one of the best massages going. She did a few things I ain't never had done before. First visit is $30? No FS but...

Cheers

Lob Diver

02-10-08, 14:08

Checked out the Phoenix week before last and tried an ad with the number ***0472. This is a bit out of the way for me, I usually go to places in Chinatown, but thought I would check out another area. I called to set up an appointment. I called again when I got to the apartment building (typical Boston 3 or 4 story walkup). "Sue" answered the phone and buzzed open the door. I walked up to the 1st floor where the door opened slightly and Sue looked out and invited me in. Rather encouraged by the fact that she was wearing a babydoll outfit! I was shown into a room with a massage table, chair and side table, paid. 7 for an hour and got undressed.

Sue was asian (Chinese I believe) a little older. Maybe in her 40s and a little thick, but I was okay with it. I was offered a shower, which I opted for after the massage. Okay massage, serious roaming allowed, wonderful HE and I actually wondered if more were available (probably not, but hope springs eternal). Biggest drawback was her occasional singing along with the music playing in the background. Tip. 3. I would certainly consider repeating, but not regularly as it is not as convenient as CT (but I did like having that shower available).

Mr Boston

02-11-08, 00:57

Anyone know what happened there? They seemed to disappear.

Just when I was getting comfortable there <sigh>Highland Ave busted: http://www.wickedlocal.com/needham/homepage/x254745954

So sad!

Mr Boston

Hjfetish

02-11-08, 23:09

Tonight I made an appointment to see Ge in Malden. Ge has a new incall location at a tanning studio. She was busy, so I ended up seeing Andrea. Now I think I remember seeing in other reviews that Ge works with somebody else who may not be as accommodatng as her, so I immediately got nervous. The first good sign came when she started the massage with me undraped. I asked for the light massage, and she gave a very good light touch massage. She kept brushing innocently across my sack while doing my legs. After the flip, she actually spent some time massaging my chest and stomach and inner legs, which seems to be a rarity. It seems that as soon as you flip at most places, they try to get it over with ASAP. She only offers HJ, as far as I know, but man, what an HJ it was! She teased a lot, and she stretched it out for quite awhile before I finished. I highly recommend her. In fact,t he next time I call, I will probably bypass Ge, just because I liked Andrea so much.

Andrea is about average build with the Brazilian ass. She told me that she weighs bout 130. She has a beautiful face, IMO, and she speaks good English. She's very friendly and conversational and she stares at you and smiles at you while she is giving the HJ. She seems to be somebody who actually wants to give the customer a good time and not like somebody who just wants to rush you out the door.

Big Bobby35

02-12-08, 10:14

Have been off my 'game' lately so haven't been here in awhile to post updated on some track work, but here goes.

Few Fridays ago had to get some relaxation. Ended up being more work than it may have been worth but got some intel and ended up refreshed in the end.

Started out by calling Tia up emailing an appt. for Tia in NH for massage and russian that she is known for but, wouldn't answer follow up phone call to confirm - this was frustrating as I have chased her for a year with no avail, she'll show again.

Decided to make a appt w/ ole faithful (Ge) and then work other avenues by chance got lucky. Ge said she was out shopping and needed 2hrs. before we could meet. No problem. In the mean time I would head down and try walk-ins with Maya Spa and Forever just to window shop. Headed to MS and looked like people were actually lined out the door and traffic was insane, backed up ...decided to pass. I really wanted the TS if I was going to blow off GE. Head over to FY and amazing luck no one in window, parking right out front fantastic!!! Go in and there is an 8 at the desk but talking to an old timer (had to be Coast Hog). Girl asks "you just call me for appt?", I mistakenly said "no". She then says she needs 1hr. there are 3 people there and oldd timer is next!!! Whoever had the appt, you owe me I should have bumped you!!! Hahaha. Headed to Ge's and can confirm that there is a new Girl with her. About 5'9+ (heels) she is thicker not fat, great chest, about 38-42?? in age. When I got to Ge's it was locked (usually means session time) and went back to car to wait. Now I am waiting for Ge to come from shopping alone but came with daughters. The ones she said she wants to hook me up with, and one is HOT!!!! I go to door and she has me come into hair salon as other session going on. I was with about 10 brazilians with the older Mamasan types looking me up and down speakin portugese and licking their lips...good thing I didn't venture too close to the vultures!

Make a long story short met the new girl, definitely my next trip. Got a great doggy release, and good massage. Problem is the massage is now about 40-45min as next appt monger was coming in door as I left.

Ge gets good ratings from me for great attitude, nice C bombs and ease of location for me.

What I am starting not to like is it is less and less private now, I was sitting in room when monger left and monger came in.

WebDog

02-12-08, 20:16

BigBobby,

That is a great report. Albeit I am confused on "Doggy Release" (??)

You on your back, her rubbing your stomach while your left leg shakes?

Dan Wesson

02-12-08, 21:28

Was passing through Watertown the other day and wandered by Allegro. It is right next door to Sakura, so I took a peek in there first. There was a rather thick woman at the desk, so I figured I would pass. Plus, place does not look quite as good as it does in the pics.

Went into Allegro. My thought here was that anyone offering 4 hand massage MUST be open to a HE. WRONG! The first clue was their little customer health form. I took a look and said I would pass, but the guy there just said fill in my aches and pains (ya, right here in my groin!). Anyway, Kristy and the other girl (forget her name) were out at the moment. He offered a haircut and massage for $65, so I got a haircut. I know, what the hell kind of outing was this. But I was there, so I was damned if I was leaving completely empty handed.

Anyway, Kristy and her co-worker came back. Kristy is a little heavy, reasonably cute and I would say mid 20's. She showed me to room filled with candles and left me to get ready. She came in and gave me a good massage. I asked for some crotch work, but she politely ignored. I was draped almost to body bag level.

So, final outcome, massage was 7/8, .65 with a haircut and .1 tip, place is clean, parking on street and Kristy is pleasant enough. I may still go back for the 4 hand, but my expectation for a higher level of excitement is low.

Dan Wesson

02-12-08, 21:32

BigBobby,

That is a great report. Albeit I am confused on "Doggy Release" (??)

You on your back, her rubbing your stomach while your left leg shakes?Were you up on all fours or did you hump her leg? Enquiring minds want to know!

Dan Wesson

02-12-08, 21:36

I've also been to Michelle's Massage in Providence. Michelle is an extremely friendly and outgoing person. She's black, and I believe about 27 years old. For those of you looking for a real massage, Michelle isn't for you. She basically gives you a very nice and soothing back rub. The problem to me came after the flip. It's a massage with a happy ending, but my ending wasn't happy. She really doesn't tease at all. She basically just starts trying to whack you off as fast as possible. At the end, I ended up not cumming. The only thing that I can say is that her technique for the HJ wasn't something that I liked. There was no teasing involved at all. that might not bother some guys, but it does bother me. I've read other reports saying that she goes topless for the HE, but she wqouldn't remove the top when I asked her to.I am bumming man. I have seen her pictures and she is hot looking with a nice rack. But I know what you are talking about the lack of teasing, that would turn me off too. I would also NEED to see those melons. Thanks for the info.

Big Bobby35

02-13-08, 14:11

I was on all fours barking like a dog. She asked me to turn over and I said keep going. Surprising thing was she was putting her head down closer to see me finish, though for a second. Just a little closer Ge! Somewhat similar to Angel 1st pop.

Then she did the stomach, chest, leg masssage and started to warm up for 2nd go, but damn 3pm monger came knocking on the door and ruined it.

Oh, well.

WebDog

02-13-08, 15:07

I was on all fours barking like a dog. She asked me to turn over and I said keep going. Surprising thing was she was putting her head down closer to see me finish, though for a second. Just a little closer Ge! Somewhat similar to Angel 1st pop.nice! had a similar experience last week in Calif -- she started with a massage as I lay face down, then guided me up on to my knees as she gave a BBBJ from behind/under while rubbing my anus with lotion.

Was wild for a couple minutes but had to have her switch to a regular BBBJTC as I didn't see getting my money's worth the other way.

BTW - the GFE options with Asian providers in the Bay Area is Off-the-F*#king-Hook!!

If you have a chance to go out there, skip the AMPs (which all suck by our standards) and skip CL, but look for Asian GFE providers who charge $140 - $160/hr and work out of the South Bay. These women are from another world, and are unlike anything I have otherwise seen in U.S.-located providers.

Great looking, incredible attitudes, and mind-blowing fucking. Working their asses off to give you everything you can do in 60,70, even 80 minutes if not appt on the back end. Have found them in RB but have resolved that they must work for the same manager as repeated visits have been out of the same Residence Inn in Milpitas.

Riyaker

02-14-08, 09:26

I am bumming man. I have seen her pictures and she is hot looking with a nice rack. But I know what you are talking about the lack of teasing, that would turn me off too. I would also NEED to see those melons. Thanks for the info.I have been to Michelle several times, at first she took off her top and let you roam those great tits, but my last visit she stated she couldn't do that anymore. I agree she is somewhat methodical and business like with the release.

Nice clean place, she has a freindly personality, but with all the AMPs in RI probably won't go back.

Also I have noticed she has packed on a few pounds.

Hjfetish

02-14-08, 15:58

Dan Wesson

02-14-08, 21:21

My latest outing to MaySpa, I chose May, as usual. Great massage and some good light massage on the jewels. Then we flip. However, this time, the towel stayed on, although minimal. A little light brushing under the towel, but not much more. What's up here? Well, she then whispers that Annie has been checking in on them lately. She no sooner says this then the door opens and Annie has some conversation in Chinese, then leaves. May says, see, she has been looking in. Needless to say, she performed a rather hurried and unenthusiastic HE and we called it a session. Now, if she just stood there and watched May jack me, I would be thrilled. However, this is not in cards.

Now I don't know how long this has been going on or whether it will continue. If so, I may have to seek other pastures again.

Mothball

02-15-08, 07:03

I saw her a few months ago when she first posted on CL. She is a bit odd, but gives a good massage, I agree. Did she where a glove for the finale? Either way 30 was a bargain.Yup, the rubber gloves were kinda cute and funny. I figured she knew where my weener had been over the years and was trying to protect herself. Smart girl!

Stressed Out

02-15-08, 12:32

Michelle told me that she goes up and down with her weight. But I think that she is still very attractive. I agree that she is very friendly and personable, but the HJ was way too methodical for me. It got to the point where she was frustrated with me not cumming and she was telling me that we only had a couple of minutes left. That pretty much ended it for me.

I also have enjoyed her massages. Her weight didn't really bother me at all and her massage was really just a 'body rub' type. She definitely is on the attractive side and yes the release tended to be a little 'businesslike' as in some of the amps and from some of the 'older burnt out ladies' that we have around. But I still went for the top up routine. michelle has one of the nicest chests around and it made the trip worthwhile. However with the latest reports that she has stopped providing this part of the service it makes me look elsewhere also. Some of the less stellar things with her and some of the others can be overcome with some nice views and gropes but alas........ bye michelle.

Hjfetish

02-16-08, 13:36

I don't know if any of you have had any experiences with the Cathouse Ladies. They sometimes advertise on CL. Anyway, I met with Ashley last night at a hotel near Waltham. She is definitely a big woman, but I think that she gives great service. She has a huge (E) rack. She also is wide in the stomach and very wide in the ass. I'm not a good judge of weight, but I'd say that she is average height and definitely weighs 200+. Her front teeth are a bit brown. To enjoy Ashley, you need to like BBW's. I think she's 29 years old.

I believe they offer 30 minute GFE for $120, and a hour for $180. I chose the body rub, $100 for an hour, plus $20 for the happy ending. It may be a bit pricy, but you can be the judge of that. She gets naked for the body rub, and she'll pretty much do whatever you want massage wise. I asked her for a light touch rub. She did a great job with the light touch, but I became worried when she flipped me after only 15 minutes. I asked her when I flipped if the session would be over if I finished before the hour was up. She giggled and told me that I could have multi pops, which was great! She gives a very good HJ, and she mixed a bit of oral as well as a lot of titty action with it. I actually finished with a tit job. She loves to tease and is very enthusiastic. And she definitely allows multi pops.

All in all, I thought it was a great time. Again, you have to have a liking for bigger ladies, but to each his own!

Jetlees

02-16-08, 17:41

A little help. I have been banging my head on the wall for about a year now.

Tonight I made an appointment to see Ge in Malden. Ge has a new incall location at a tanning studio. She was busy, so I ended up seeing Andrea. Now I think I remember seeing in other reviews that Ge works with somebody else who may not be as accommodatng as her, so I immediately got nervous. The first good sign came when she started the massage with me undraped. I asked for the light massage, and she gave a very good light touch massage. She kept brushing innocently across my sack while doing my legs. After the flip, she actually spent some time massaging my chest and stomach and inner legs, which seems to be a rarity. It seems that as soon as you flip at most places, they try to get it over with ASAP. She only offers HJ, as far as I know, but man, what an HJ it was! She teased a lot, and she stretched it out for quite awhile before I finished. I highly recommend her. In fact,t he next time I call, I will probably bypass Ge, just because I liked Andrea so much.

Andrea is about average build with the Brazilian ass. She told me that she weighs bout 130. She has a beautiful face, IMO, and she speaks good English. She's very friendly and conversational and she stares at you and smiles at you while she is giving the HJ. She seems to be somebody who actually wants to give the customer a good time and not like somebody who just wants to rush you out the door.

AsianLPGAfan

02-16-08, 21:35

I don't know if she reads here or maybe a post on CL to let her know that her customers reviews have maybe changed some minds including mine. She doesn't need to be extend herself with extras but just listen to what the opinions here. She sounds like a nice lady. But for similar price in the neighborhood you can try your luck at an AMP.

Yellow Fever

02-17-08, 03:55

Would you even approach any of these BBW's in a bar never mind pay them?

Hjfetish

02-17-08, 07:14

Yellowfever,
I probably wouldn't approach them in a bar, but I did see her, so I just wanted to give you guys the info.

AsianLPGAfan,

I agree with everything you said. She seems like a great girl. She's very intelligent and friendly, the type of chick that I am normally friends with. She gives a decent "rub", it's just that the payoff isn't there.

Dan Wesson

02-17-08, 08:46

I don't know if she reads here or maybe a post on CL to let her know that her customers reviews have maybe changed some minds including mine.
I doubt many (any) providers subscribe and read here. I didn't even know about this site until a year ago.

I checked Michelle's web site and it appears to be gone now. Maybe she just lost interest in trying to provide the best service and has settled into mediocrity.

Too bad though, she was on my "todo" list for some future RI run!

Dan Wesson

02-17-08, 09:00

Would you even approach any of these BBW's in a bar never mind pay them?
I must admit that BBW's are not to my taste, but based on Hjfetish's report, enthusiasm and a good pop(s) are alot of what it's all about.

In contrast to the Michelle reports of a good looking woman who gives a hurried and uninspiring HJ, which is a total buzz kill to me!

WebDog

02-17-08, 14:17

Based on your report my interest was piqued, but there is nothing interesting about her picture. http://www.cathouseladies.com/gallery2.htm

I can overlook a big gut for bigger tits and a nice face, particularly if he attitude is as good as described. But this chick (Ashley shown in the link above) is just plain fugly.

Assuming she looks better in the flesh??

I don't know if any of you have had any experiences with the Cathouse Ladies. They sometimes advertise on CL. Anyway, I met with Ashley last night at a hotel near Waltham. She is definitely a big woman, but I think that she gives great service. She has a huge (E) rack. She also is wide in the stomach and very wide in the ass. I'm not a good judge of weight, but I'd say that she is average height and definitely weighs 200+. Her front teeth are a bit brown. To enjoy Ashley, you need to like BBW's. I think she's 29 years old.

I believe they offer 30 minute GFE for $120, and a hour for $180. I chose the body rub, $100 for an hour, plus $20 for the happy ending. It may be a bit pricy, but you can be the judge of that. She gets naked for the body rub, and she'll pretty much do whatever you want massage wise. I asked her for a light touch rub. She did a great job with the light touch, but I became worried when she flipped me after only 15 minutes. I asked her when I flipped if the session would be over if I finished before the hour was up. She giggled and told me that I could have multi pops, which was great! She gives a very good HJ, and she mixed a bit of oral as well as a lot of titty action with it. I actually finished with a tit job. She loves to tease and is very enthusiastic. And she definitely allows multi pops.

All in all, I thought it was a great time. Again, you have to have a liking for bigger ladies, but to each his own!

Hjfetish

02-17-08, 15:53

She definitely looks a lot better in the flesh. I'm not saying that she is a beauty queen or anything, but that is definitely a BAD picture.

Stressed Out

02-17-08, 16:33

Neddd

02-19-08, 02:30

I'm not at all sure I get it. Is this the right place for you?

Professional, full body release massage ONLY! Eselan style w/ some tantric overtones. Attractive, educated and professional woman! SWNH/SVT

http://touchtherapy.tripod.com/ for all info. Be respectful, mature minded & willing to supply a phone number!

Pats Fan1

02-19-08, 10:11

A little help. I have been banging my head on the wall for about a year now.Are you trying to ask how to get started in the massage/escort/hobby world? If so, which part interests you the most? It is pretty easy to get started.

Hjfetish

02-19-08, 16:44

I think that the Cathouse Ladies and the Happy Body Rubs are the same company. I've been on both websites, and they basically show the same ladies. The one thing that I am curious about is where the RI location is. If you look at the body rubs site, they show pics of different "massage rooms". I was just wondering if they have a central location. I know that the girl that I saw last week, Ashley, was working out of a hotel, and I think that Rose does too.

Stan Daround

02-19-08, 18:03

CL has some new Thai provider advertising with some attractive looking pics. Any guess whether these are ladyboys?

Dan Wesson

02-19-08, 21:56

Decided to venture into the Arlington "spas" this weekend and based on some prior reviews, decided to give Forever Young a whirl. Place is easy to get to and on street parking within a block or two was easy, at least at that time of day. Went in without an appt, and was wisked into a room with Angela. Angela was average build, 5' 3" or so, attractive, about 30 (+/-) with a great smile. She collected the house fee of .7 and asked if I wanted a table shower. Since I just came from the gym, I declined and we were off and running.

She started with getting some kinks out of my back. Then she sat on me and worked the back some more. Then she went down to the legs. She worked both upper thighs two-handed, and finished off by scooping up my jewels with both hands cupped. I thought this was great as I did not need to signal any requests. She continued to massage my back and legs, working in a little teasing each time.

On the flip, she got up and locked the door (a feature which until recently, I would not have appreciated). She then preceeded to massage my chest and then onto the feature presentation. She allowed roaming on top with the shirt and bra up. She also allowed me to grab her ass in her pants. I did not make a grab for the front. She had a great way of playing and jacking my cock that got me off great. She knew just how to push my buttons.

My only complaint was that I think the session was short (maybe 40 minutes, I really didn't check the time) because they squeezed me in between another appt. Next time, I would make an appt. However, I never felt rushed. Left her with .4 because she was just pleasant, fun and not mechanical.

Also, although the back rooms are somewhat dark, it did appear clean.

Don't know how long she has or will be there, but give her a try. I thought she was very good! YMMV

Overall:
Massage - 7-8
Angela - 6-7
Attitude - 9
Finish - 9

Stressed Out

02-19-08, 23:27

Stressed Out

02-19-08, 23:34

CL has some new Thai provider advertising with some attractive looking pics. Any guess whether these are ladyboys?

This place has been around for awhile and is not new. The person who runs it (Jolin) has been around for a few years. She has been is West Rox, Allston, Mass Ave and Watertown. She and her ladies give a nice Thai style massage and have no 'extra' equipment. (I have 'seen' most of them over the past months). My only complaint is that they use a little too much oil during the massage. But they are sweet and nice ladies.

Dan Wesson

02-20-08, 08:27

Jack 17

02-20-08, 09:29

In the past few months there has been a chiropractor's office in the North End advertising on Craigslist that they do massages in the evening. They describe the women as attractive and cute. Upon request they will send a photo that definitely promotes how pretty they are.

Has anyone gone yet? Are there any extras available? For the first time visitor?

Here is yesterday's ad:

relaxation, stress and pain relief / pic available

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Reply to: serv-579384380@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-02-19, 1:10PM EST

Massage/ young female

Professional and Therapeutic massage at Doctor’s office in North End of Boston; Swedish, Deep tissue, and Sports massage. $85 for one hour with a $15 discount on the first visit. Call 617-742-5797 to make an appointment.

Picture available on request.
call asap 4:30 and 6pm open today

WebDog

02-20-08, 13:24

Found the above titled post on CL, content below:

"Gents, Sorry to be the one to bust your bubble but the massage at the Watertown Thai place is strictly a massage - nothing more. And they use a ton of messy baby oil. Nice folks but absolutely no "happy endings."

Also - IMPORTANT - the Watertown Police Department has been known to visit this and the other places. If you're looking for more than a massage, go elsewhere. You do not want to be the guy who gets grabbed after coming out of the place. Take it from someone who has learned the hard way."

What is he talking about? How can you get grabbed coming out from a massage with extras?you can't. You can possibly get busted if you're in the act of receiving a sex act, but that is unlikely (i.e., cops won't be busting the door with a battering ram and you will have some notice).

I have not heard of any kind of busts like this in Watertown and suspect this is just a competitive dig to try to scare people away from this place or others in Watertown.

It is possible to get hassled by local LE with the threat of a bust -- making you believe you will be arrested unless you dime out the AMP. But if you keep your mouth shut you will never be arrested as a patron *leaving* an AMP.

BostonBread

02-20-08, 18:30

OK, anyone else reread that ad three times looking for where it says "attractive and cute"? OK, I give Jack that it IMPLIES that - but Jack - I think your mind is in the gutter -reread the ad and highlight where is says attractive and cute?!

Aprilia Rsv

02-20-08, 18:38

Shooter6

02-20-08, 19:38

I got a pic by email of Erin, one of the girls who works out of the chiropractors office. There is also always a male that posts using the same phone number and pricing info. He also has a pic available, apparently. Recently a second girl posted ads, in addition to Erin. Erin is very cute, and the photo has her top coming off of one shoulder. I get the feeling they are playing up the ambiguity, realizing that supplying photos and saying "cute female" lead people to think they may get extras. Yet they ARE in a legit chiropractors office, North End Chiro I believe. When I called to fish for info they told me first timers have to reserve the appointment with a credit card. I lost interest at that point.

Dan Wesson

02-20-08, 20:01

It is possible to get hassled by local LE with the threat of a bust -- making you believe you will be arrested unless you dime out the AMP. But if you keep your mouth shut you will never be arrested as a patron *leaving* an AMP.
Thanks WD, that is what I figured. I also avoid any conversation that involves any "this for that" tone. I may indirectly indicate my interest, but never get into a direct negotitation. My thought is that I avoid any hassle with LE. Worst case, they bust the girl for some type of inappropriate massage, legal mumbo-jumbo.

Ya know, the fact that LE even chases this very minor shit ticks me off. If a licensed operation offers extras, they should just bug off, unless locals complain, and then just pull the license. But I guess I am just preaching to the choir!

Dan Wesson

02-20-08, 20:03

Shooter6

02-20-08, 20:32

Paid a visit to Sue after reading Lob Divers review. Let me start off by saying everything he reported is absolutely accurate. It's a bit farther out of the downtown area than I prefer. Her ad says NE Medical Ctr but she's a long way from that, she obviously meant Boston Med.

Greeted by an attractive 40 something, not rail thin but not fat. Tipped up front for the first time ever. Gave her the. 7 plus. 3. She asked why I gave her that amount and I told her it was a tip, she seemed very pleased. There is a significant language barrier at play here, could hardly understand anything she said throughout the whole session.

Nice massage, she uses hardly any oil at all. Nice mixture of genuine massage technique and teasing. She brushes the boys early and often. No walking on the back. She does lift your lower legs up one at a time and work them out. She pushes them back towards your thighs and works them around a bit. While doing this she had one foot firmly between my legs, which wasn't entirely unpleasurable. Lifting your legs like this gives her (or you) a great opportunity to really spread the legs apart for the tease. Went in and out of the room a lot, heating towels and whatnot. Also answered the phone twice, which sucked. There were also at least 2 other people in the apartment the whole time, and a child came home from school in the middle. She has a sheet draped across her living room, blocking off the kitchen where the other people seemed to be. This comes into play after the shower, as I wasn't thrilled about dashing back to the massage room (bedroom) with an audience, but luckily the coast was clear at that time. Anyway, be prepared to hear others in the apartment talking, coughing or whatever. You can also hear traffic the whole time. That's pretty much a given in the city I guess.

By the time she had me flip I was very happy. Distractions aside, she does a great massage. As she started to tease big time she kept asking me if it was the first time. She had already asked me that at the beginning but she asked a few more times. I kept telling her yes, first time. Then she said "No, this second time for you". So I said Ok, it's my second time. I thought she wanted me to say that in order to continue. Not the case. After I said it was my second time she kept asking questions about what we did the first time. So I went back to saying first time. She seemed as confused as I was. I started to roam at this point. Under and over the top, over the bottoms. She had no problem with that, even moved around to grant me better access at times. She has smallish tits with the longest nipples I've ever seen or felt. The finish was good, she knows how to slow down now and then when she feels you might be close (but not ready). She gave me a few nice kisses on the neck and cheek and offered her cheek a couple times. When she sensed it was time she got a bit more into it, grinding a bit and even nibbling on my nipples. Actual finish was very nice. Nice clean up also, warm wash cloth. She also thoroughly cleaned my roaming hand, which was a nice touch I haven't seen anywhere else.

Then things got interesting. Went back to asking about "first time". I really wasn't sure what to say at that point, and didn't say a whole lot. I just tried to agree with whatever she was saying. Then she said "last time we did like this, right? " and she put a knee up on the table and slid her leg over my waist. I said "ummm, no. This is first time here. But let's do that next time. " She said "you come back? " so I said yes. All the while she was playing a little with me, it was clear a second pop was available but I had already mentally checked out. Then she actually gave the big little guy a wet kiss and then giggled. At that point I started to get interested again, wondering why she hadn't made moves like this BEFORE the ending. Anyway, she said again "you come back" and asked "good job? " then said "ok, all done". I was already mentally booking my next appointment.

But not so fast. She was talking ang giggling and generally acting silly while I dressed. I get the feeling the better she knows you, the more she talks. I then realized why she was acting so silly and jumping around. She kept positioning herself between me and the door, talking away. Then I understood only two of the words, "more" and "money". So much for tipping up front. Apparently it only made me a mark for more. I tried to play dumb, no luck. I tried to mention the tip I gave her but she kept yammering about money. Then she said "Birthday". I just looked at her and said "Birthday? ! " Then she said Chinese New Year. I suppose I could have made a dash for the door but I could see in the next room that the curtain was opened a bit now. I could see a couple of older women. Not that they would have stopped me if I just made a beeline for the door, but I started to get the impression there may be a scene. The easiest thing to do was give her another. 2 as I pushed my way around her. This made her happy and she wanted to kiss me good bye, but I wasn't stopping for anything. A 50 yr old Chinese lady pulled the curtain back further and smiled and waved and said good bye to me. There is a table in the second bedroom, perhaps there are others who work there.

So that sucked. Honestly, I had been told up front exactly what I was going to get, and what was apparently on the table, I would have paid the 1. 2 with no real trouble. IF that had been the up front rate. Instead I felt annoyed. It really put a damper on the situation and I most likely won't repeat. Providers like that rarely are satisfied with the same amount the second go.

ONE OTHER NOTE. I have NO idea what to make of this, so I'll just give the facts and let you make what you will of it. I took my pants with me into the bathroom, as I usually do to avoid any trouble. However, I stupidly left my watch sitting on my coat in the chair. After I left I hailed a cab to head home. I noticed my watch was about an hour behind. Now I KNOW it was correct when I got there, as I looked at it several times on the way there. I was in there for a total of 75 minutes or so. If my watch stopped on it's own, it did so for EXACTLY one hour, then started again.

Unfortunately, as I sit here less than 2 hours later, I hardly feel like I had a massage. All I can think about is the shakedown and my watch.

Touch Therapy

02-20-08, 22:13

your website after reading your post. We are always looking for new people and places for good massages. I was a little disappointed in some of the info (or lack of). First of all with every page change we had to deal with a pop-up ad. Now I realize that this might be necesary but still 6 ads in the short time I was reading is a little much. Secondly as far as the info left out I realize that we all have privacy issues (you as much as us) but some general info would be helpful. A general description of yourself would be helpful. You could be 20 or 50. You could be black, white of asian. Again it would be helpful for some of your audience. Also it doesn't sound like you move around but at least again a general location of where you practice would be good. (metro west/so of Boston/no of Boston) I would probably not take a chance on calling (that privacy thing) unless I knew I had a chance of making it to that location. While for some it doesn't matter for others it does. You also make it clear that it is a very theraputic full body massage. You emphasize the no 'touching' and no 'view' part of the session (which is fine.) While this does let everyone know the limits I think for most gents who read this site (correct me if I'm wrong guys) we do like the visual stimulation. (especially for 1.5). I hope you do well and maybe with some more info I might take a try and probably be glad I did. I wish you luck with your endeavor!Thanks for the input. I do run a professional Massage Therapy Practice so yes, I do need to be very careful with the information I reveal about myself. Typically, I require a phone number and once I feel comfortable after speaking to someone, I will reveal a bit more info. I value my privacy AND yours. I am very low volume with this type of massage and am very selective. Many will inquire, over time, many will arrive for a session but I will not allow many to return because they cannot grasp the concept of simply relaxing and enjoying pleasure for 90 minutes! My sessions are superb. Not visuals needed. It's all in my touch I do advertise for massage, not sex or entertainment and the website offers a great deal of info regarding what my sessions entail, what is expected etc. I tried to be honest and upfront.

To satisfy your curiosity, I am 41, look much younger, healthy, very attractive and educated. I give a massage (FULL BODY) that will leave you in awe. Clients drive long distances each month for this reason. I've heard all the stories of my clients past "massage" experiences. Whether given nude, or scantily clad and there is simply a lot to be desired. Of course, if you MUST have that sort of thing to relax and feel good then my sessions are not for you. To each his own but many have tried my philosophy and were pleasantly surprised at how satisfied they were and continue to return on a regular basis. I aplogize for the pop up's on the webpage. It's just the way the site works. Sorry. If you have any questions, feel free to ask Thanks again for your feedback.