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Davidonecall
04-27-11, 11:44
Ilapp had given a glowing report of Kayla on BP at:
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/you-wont-believe-your-eyes-with-this-hot-blonde-mama-31/4136036
However, I just noticed this morning that this seemingly new provider is using the same pics at:
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/london-b-londe-bomshell-21/4315784
The second is an different number, different name, and claims to be 11 years younger. Ilapp confirmed that the woman he saw was about 31, as the ad states, so it appears that someone is scamming Kayla's images.
Ilapp, can you confirm that Kayla's pics are indeed of her?
TA2Kayla has a very nice body and I'm glad that someone was fast to report. Now for someone to use another providers pictures is alway bad. Don't matter if she looks close to her. Has anyone have infor on this 2nd provider?
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/london-b-londe-bomshell-21/4315784
The second is an different number, different name, and claims to be 11 years younger. Ilapp confirmed that the woman he saw was about 31, as the ad states, so it appears that someone is scamming Kayla's images.
The second ad is down, now, after the reveal. Why wouldn't both be her? Wouldn't be the first advertiser with multiple names, multiple numbers, and a malleable date of birth.
Kayla has a very nice body and I'm glad that someone was fast to report. Now for someone to use another providers pictures is alway bad. Don't matter if she looks close to her. Has anyone have infor on this 2nd provider?
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/london-b-londe-bomshell-21/4315784I've actually seen Kayla I believe also known as Stephanie twice. The second time I saw her by mistake after she changed her pics and name. Both times she did not look half as hot as the photos. I'm up in the air whether they are of her at a younger point in her life or of a completely different person. When I saw her she looks ok enough, kind of average looking and older than the photos, so I felt mislead.
I would not as been as displeased as I was if she did not kick me out for mistaking me for LE both times! The first time I dressed up nice with a button up and slacks. I believe there was a rumor of a undercover cop dressing as such. In any case I just about had to put my foot in the door to make sure I had my wallet. She proceed to call me after the fact claiming I was knocking on her door long after I was driving down the highway. And I had a long drive home as I do not live in Indy proper. At the time I thought she must have been on drugs but now think it could have just been crazy paranoia.
The second time I saw her we realized after a short period of time we knew one another. She did give me a decent massage but we both decided to end the session early as she could not proceed as being too freak out at the possibility that I was LE. At least I didn't have to pay anything so I wasn't too pissed. One thing I can say about her physically is she has very nice breasts, one of the best I've seen. I did get a chance to touch them but that is as far as things went.
Later I went and saw Nancy whom I think she also knows and had a good time. Nancy was paid without hassle and I left happy. Too bad it could have been Kayla but I was kind of glad it didn't happen as the pictures are not accurate. I never see a provider who posts old or fake pics so I'd have to give Kayla a do not recommend.
This is a little late, however, I felt I should give credit to one amazing gal. I was able to schedule last minute with SlutCake, but I needed to allow her 30 min as she was finishing up some other business. She is an ATF and I have lots of great times with her, but I had never tried the Nuru. She turned me into her slippery and smooth personal pommel horse. I think she recently returned from furthering her education in Nuru, she can sign me up as a new student!
I'm not sure how she was gliding her body, legs, hips and wonderful breast all over my body but I'm a huge fan! One second I would see her feet by my head, then the next I would feel her toes intertwined with mine. I don't know how she does it, but she makes this experience so erotic. She uses coconut oil, and I was at first concerned that I would smell like a stripper or spring break beach party. This stuff has virtually no scent and was extremely easy for her to wash off my body in shower we shared afterwards. I almost had as much with her in the shower as I did with the massage.
One: there's no reason to report on her just "to keep her honest". Let's work on getting hobbyists to be honest in the first place. Lacy's excellence is constant.
Two: no one needs a YMMV warning about her, but consider one in reverse. Your milage might vary according to what you're willing to bring to her. Either she's psychic, or she has the body intelligence of a great athlete. Andreas Segovia once said that great musicianship depended not on technique, but on beauty coming from within. He was a great guitarist, and I'm a lousy one, but I bet I have more fun with Lacy. So maybe it works for pervs, too.
TryinAgain2
04-27-11, 17:36
The second ad is down, now, after the reveal. Why wouldn't both be her? Wouldn't be the first advertiser with multiple names, multiple numbers, and a malleable date of birth.10 years difference, with the same pics? Doesn't make sense to me. Not even the dumbest hobbyist is going to fail to notice that.
Now, I don't know Kayla, haven't met her, have no axe to grind about either ad, but she impressed Ilapp, and his impressions have impressed me in the past. She's also honest enough to have posted what he considered her real age for months now, so I highly doubt she's behind the second ad with all different info. Someone likely stole her pics. I only posted about it so someone didn't go into a bad situation with that one w / o any suspicion. It really doesn't matter any more than that to me.
TA2
The 2nd referenced ad is down now.
Ilapp had given a glowing report of Kayla on BP at:
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/you-wont-believe-your-eyes-with-this-hot-blonde-mama-31/4136036
However, I just noticed this morning that this seemingly new provider is using the same pics at:
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/london-b-londe-bomshell-21/4315784
The second is an different number, different name, and claims to be 11 years younger. Ilapp confirmed that the woman he saw was about 31, as the ad states, so it appears that someone is scamming Kayla's images.
Ilapp, can you confirm that Kayla's pics are indeed of her?
TA2
I have tried to imagine what it is like to be an independent provider. There must be lots of worries to over come just to increase your collection of portraits of dead presidents.
As a long time hobbiest, I have been lucky that I have never had a regrettable experience. Since I am new to this forum, I wanted to put that out up front because this review is mixed.
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/its-time-for-fun-with-a-mature-beauty-39/4251123
First, if that picture is her, it is dated, really dated. Nothing about that picture resembled the girl that opened the door. I am not in search of perfection but due expect truth in advertizing. My tastes are wide so this was not a deal breaker. OK, I had the option to turn around but I did not. I had made the drive. I was there.
Oh, yeah she set the timer on her phone too. WTF? I had not seen that since the days (mid 80s) when you could drive out Washington St. To Hendricks County and get 1/2 an hour for a couple of jacksons. That day a provider used one of those big dial cooking timers.
The worst was over.
Once we got started, I am happy to report she was friendly, warm and responsive! GFEish, up to a point. Above average in attitude. Average effort. $.8
10 years difference, with the same pics? Doesn't make sense to me. Not even the dumbest hobbyist is going to fail to notice that.
But presumably the scammer doesn't realize it? (You ever work with the general public? Takes about two days before you swear off saying "Nobody will ever fall for that" for life.)
Hey, I applaud your catching it, and warning others; I was just curious why it "appeared someone was scamming her picture" rather than her posting two ads. I've seen stranger things than someone losing 7 years in an afternoon. I've seen stranger things than someone mistakenly typing "24" when she meant to type "27" or something else below the magic 30 mark. That, a different name, and a different number aren't exactly mortal sins in this business.
But they might give someone pause. Ilapp vouched that the woman in the ad was roughly 30, genuine, fun, and hot, and *might* be the subject of the pics. That's not the same thing as attesting that she posts to BP while under oath.
Pics have always been a peanut-and-shell game.
There are several possible girls behind a pic appearing in an escort ad. The girl in front of the camera, the girl who posted the pic that caught our eye, and the girl who will show up to see us. How many times have we left an appointment happy with what we saw and got, thinking it was her but we were not entirely sure?
We noticed Kayla of Indianapolis first. Then we learned that Anichka is also using the same pics. A Google of Anichka's phone links to Katyah of South Bend whose ad displays pics having a completely different look.
The second girl we notice to have posted the same pics, Anichka, is no indication she is the scammer. All we know is the order we saw them. But Anichka and Katyah of South Bend are compromised by their phone number being linked and Katyah of South Bend having a completely different look. This could mean Kayla of Indianapolis and Anichka are the same. It could mean Anichka and Katyah of South Bend are using the same phone as girls sometimes do. This situation usually raises more questions than we can answer, becomes circular or leads to a dead end. Only the photographer knows for sure.
What we can take to the bank is Ilapp had a chance face-time with Kayla of Indianapolis who he knew to be the girl behind the ad presently up, and he vouched her approximate age, that the pics of the woman in front of the camera used in her ad were close to the girl he met, and that she was hot. Period. That's good enough for me. There's not much that Ilapp can say on the subject of being the girl in front of the camera because the pics are cropped. But Ilapp saw her with his own eyes and gave her legitimacy by what he said and by being clear on the limits of what he said.
IluvEscort
04-28-11, 13:12
You, sir, are a benefactor of all mankind.Yes, I had one hell of a good time with a good girl. I started seeing Sensy probably 2 plus years ago back when she first started advertising in Indy. Always a great time and consider her a good friend as well.
The addition of Nuru has pushed her to the top. Hope you all take advantage of the Nuru that both ladies on here advertise. It just pushes your session right over the top for sure.
I got a text this morning about something that got me to thinking and sure enough I just got a call to say it was on. I am kind of upset because I don't think I can make it, and I really want to make it, so I guess we will see. The call was from the ever utr Teresa. It seems she and every one's favorite, the legend that is Lacy, have decided to have a tag team playdate at T's house tomorrow. Although I personally have stayed more traditional with T in spite of her new found adventurous nature, I have wandered off of the straight and narrow path with Lacy on more than one occasion and sometimes wondered if I would ever come back. It does make one think as to what might be possible with that particular pairing. Actually my last duo adventure was with Lacy and Sensory, swore I'd check with my cardiologist before I ventured there again. MMMMMMM? I have never had a trio, maybe Teresa, Sensory and Lacy? OK seriously, I know that is dreaming, even if I could make the arrangements, I can't handle one of them at a time let alone trying how to figure out what to do with all of them at once. I am merely a small, simple man. Oh well, I can dream. Anyway if you know how to get a hold of them the game is on for tomorrow if you are interested.
Had a wonderful time today with our all time favorite. She's teaming up with the famous Lacy tomorrow. If you get the chance to do the duo, it would be probaly an exhausting experience.
I would repeat tomorrow, after today, this old man needs rest. HeHe!
So if you have contacts, enjoy yourself tomorrow.
Jt
I got a text this morning about something that got me to thinking and sure enough I just got a call to say it was on. I am kind of upset because I don't think I can make it, and I really want to make it, so I guess we will see. The call was from the ever utr Teresa. It seems she and every one's favorite, the legend that is Lacy, have decided to have a tag team playdate at T's house tomorrow. Although I personally have stayed more traditional with T in spite of her new found adventurous nature, I have wandered off of the straight and narrow path with Lacy on more than one occasion and sometimes wondered if I would ever come back. It does make one think as to what might be possible with that particular pairing. Actually my last duo adventure was with Lacy and Sensory, swore I'd check with my cardiologist before I ventured there again. MMMMMMM? I have never had a trio, maybe Teresa, Sensory and Lacy? OK seriously, I know that is dreaming, even if I could make the arrangements, I can't handle one of them at a time let alone trying how to figure out what to do with all of them at once. I am merely a small, simple man. Oh well, I can dream. Anyway if you know how to get a hold of them the game is on for tomorrow if you are interested.Please report here if you survive!
I had the pleasure of spending some time with Miss Cate (Catelyne) on Thursday evening and WOW what a time we had, sensual, sexy and slippery. I was glad I called her since she is having a Special through the weekend for what she says (The Men in her life) guys she has seen before. Unbelievable BBBJ Oh My. No wonder I always go back over and over. Hard to beat her services for the donation and even better he Special, Do not walk Run I say. Had a great time as always.
Mymopar
I had the pleasure of spending some time with Miss Cate (Catelyne) on Thursday evening and WOW what a time we had, sensual, sexy and slippery. I was glad I called her since she is having a Special through the weekend for what she says (The Men in her life) guys she has seen before. Unbelievable BBBJ Oh My. No wonder I always go back over and over. Hard to beat her services for the donation and even better he Special, Do not walk Run I say. Had a great time as always.
MymoparOMG her BJ are out of this world!
I had the pleasure of spending some time with Miss Cate (Catelyne) on Thursday evening and WOW what a time we had, sensual, sexy and slippery. I was glad I called her since she is having a Special through the weekend for what she says (The Men in her life) guys she has seen before. Unbelievable BBBJ Oh My. No wonder I always go back over and over. Hard to beat her services for the donation and even better he Special, Do not walk Run I say. Had a great time as always.
MymoparI tried to see Miss Cate a while ago but couldn't pass the entrance exam. Granted I didn't have any up to date refs, But I had a easily accessible workplace. I told her she could call the switchboard and ask for me or if in the area she could come by and meet me in the parking lot at any time. She said I was too young, WTF. I'm 37. Strange huh? Well I'm not salty over it maybe she had way to many clients at the time. Which is understandable, she has to be one of the top providers in the city. Although when a contacted her I asked her if she was seeing new clients. At first I didn't get it but after talking to some local providers now I understand the need for screening.
I tried to see Miss Cate a while ago but couldn't pass the entrance exam. Granted I didn't have any up to date refs, But I had a easily accessible workplace. I told her she could call the switchboard and ask for me or if in the area she could come by and meet me in the parking lot at any time. She said I was too young, WTF. I'm 37. Strange huh? Well I'm not salty over it maybe she had way to many clients at the time. Which is understandable, she has to be one of the top providers in the city. Although when a contacted her I asked her if she was seeing new clients. At first I didn't get it but after talking to some local providers now I understand the need for screening.I'm sorry I don't mean to make things difficult for you. I find it hard to see men that I don't know yet. I like to be there for my men when they need me and I rarely take on new men. Please send me your info and I will look it over. It would help if you had a reference or two. Thank you for your interest.
Kisses,
Cate
I'm sorry I don't mean to make things difficult for you. I find it hard to see men that I don't know yet. I like to be there for my men when they need me and I rarely take on new men. Please send me your info and I will look it over. It would help if you had a reference or two. Thank you for your interest.
Kisses,
CateIf you pass she is worth the trouble, take it from someone who knows!
I'm sorry I don't mean to make things difficult for you. I find it hard to see men that I don't know yet. I like to be there for my men when they need me and I rarely take on new men. Please send me your info and I will look it over. It would help if you had a reference or two. Thank you for your interest.
Kisses,
CateShe is worth it!
I'm sorry I don't mean to make things difficult for you. I find it hard to see men that I don't know yet. I like to be there for my men when they need me and I rarely take on new men. Please send me your info and I will look it over. It would help if you had a reference or two. Thank you for your interest.
Kisses,
CateIts ok. I wasn't / isn't upset at it. I just thought oh well and moved on. No harm done.
I'm not trying to be a rabble-rouser, but I'm curious about your answer to this 37-year-old senior member. As a former senior member on this site (and I still don't know how I lost my old nickname on here, and I refuse to believe that it's because of the redesign or I don't have enough ram on my laptop) , I've e-mailed you on more than one occasion (with references, the last time may have been about a year ago) , and I didn't even get a "Hey, baby, how ya doing?" You can run your show the way you see fit, and I have a regular now so I'm not inquiring about you at this time or even down the road for that matter. But if you rarely take on new clients, why don't you go UTR? And why spend so much on posting ads (because your ads are like all over the place) when it appears you're not seeing new clients?
I'm sorry I don't mean to make things difficult for you. I find it hard to see men that I don't know yet. I like to be there for my men when they need me and I rarely take on new men. Please send me your info and I will look it over. It would help if you had a reference or two. Thank you for your interest.
Kisses,
Cate
I I've e-mailed you on more than one occasion (with references, the last time may have been about a year ago) , and I didn't even get a "Hey, baby, how ya doing?" You can run your show the way you see fit, and I have a regular now so I'm not inquiring about you at this time or even down the road for that matter. But if you rarely take on new clients, why don't you go UTR? And why spend so much on posting ads (because your ads are like all over the place) when it appears you're not seeing new clients?The Water Company advertises; Power & Light advertises, and neither one really cares whether you're a customer or not, because you've got nowhere else to go. Seems like Miss Cate's ads do strike a chord out there, and even good clients aren't necessarily forever.
I don't know Cate, and I wouldn't presume to speak for her anyway, but I do know that over the years I've gotten to see several women who advertised but were famously hard to reach because of *who* my references were, and *what* they said about me, and not just the fact that I had some. And over the years I've stuck to a practice of writing the best introduction I could, then, if I didn't get a response, either moving on or writing one more, depending on the level of desire. A better way seems to be getting to know established providers, finding out who gets along with whom, and seeing someone for the reference if no other reason.
Y'know, finally, Miss Cate was nice enough to answer here, which is a helluva lot more than I've gotten from some cancelled appointments, let alone introductory notes. Her advertising practices or her selection process aren't really open to debate.
West Central
05-02-11, 13:15
Just a heads up, there are some "ladies" working out of the hotels near the police post at 21st & Post Road. I only talked and booked with one, but when I got there, there were several others milling around the general area. The phone I called belongs to a guy; I'm assuming he's some kind of pimp or security. The woman that answered the call handed the phone to him when I asked a question other than "how much, where, and when".
Anyway, the girl I saw called herself Brandy. 5'3, 140-ish (said 120) , said 30s but looked in her 40s. Not attractive. Lots of tattoos, a dolphin on one arm is one I remember, and a tramp stamp. Wanted the $.5 up front, I said no, she said that was the rules. I was getting nervous and mentioned I might just call back and get a different girl. She got upset and wanted. 5 for her trouble.
I bailed and there was a good bit of screaming and threats as I exited stage left. Recommend staying away: these are twenty dollar hookers posing as escorts. Maybe that's why there's no activity on the sidewalks lately.
Y'know, finally, Miss Cate was nice enough to answer here, which is a helluva lot more than I've gotten from some cancelled appointments, let alone introductory notes. Her advertising practices or her selection process aren't really open to debate.This has nothing to do with Miss Cate, But in general, Advertising practices are open to debate. If the provider advertises Outdated pics, Outdated Info, or misleading services Such as GFE or PSE when they are not. Those deceptive advertising practices are Open to debate. Lastly this has nothing to do with Cate. I'm this stating this in general.
This has nothing to do with Miss Cate, But in general, Advertising practices are open to debate. If the provider advertises Outdated pics, Outdated Info, or misleading services Such as GFE or PSE when they are not. Those deceptive advertising practices are Open to debate. Lastly this has nothing to do with Cate. I'm this stating this in general.Until you posted we weren't talking about outdated pics, or info, or misleading services. I was responding to BFD who, echoing you, suggested that Cate shouldn't advertise at all if she weren't taking new clients-though she said "rarely", not "never"-and both of you seem to define "not taking clients" as "didn't see me". And you, without current references, seem to've decided you could write your own screening requirements and she should just accept those in lieu of her own (not to mention accepting your definition of age limits, even though she's older than you). I mean no disrespect, but I just don't understand where you guys are coming from. The provider takes the risks, so the provider sets the screening requirements. What you think sounds fair or reasonable is meaningless. The provider writes the ads and decides when and where to post them, and she decides what services she will or won't offer, in general, or to you in particular. And, above all, the provider decides who to see or not see, who to answer and who to ignore. I'm not really sure how anyone misses this, but I do know that Miss Cate was kind enough to offer you a second chance to submit your info. Consider yourself ahead of the game, and don't start throwing around "deceptive practices".
You see. I had plans to go play golf Fri afternoon. Then I read a post by Ilapp that morning and I had to alter those plans. Over the past few months I've become friends with Teresa. Many have stated, and most have read that she is wonderful. She's beyond the GFE. (she'll do things most gf's won't). Indeed, Teresa is a dream.
Well, Ilapp told a story of Teresa spending some quality time with a young lady whom I had not met by the name of Lacy. Naturally, I was intrigued. A few phone calls latter and we were set.
When I made it to Teresa's, in comes bouncing this little ball of fire. Boys, if you haven't met Lacy yet, you better hold on! What a sexual dynamo! Her oral skills are beyond compare. Now granted, I'm not the largest rooster in the hen house, but when she swallowed me all the way to the "chicklets". My eyes must have rolled like 7's on a slot machine.
Either of these young ladies on their own could make your heart palpitate. But put them together in the same bed. Cowboy, you'd better hold on. You're in for the ride of your life! It's a shame we didn't have lights and a camera rolling. 'Cause I would have sworn I was in a porn video. My fantasy of having two beautiful women worship my see#k has now been fulfilled!
Teresa and Lacy, Thank you very much! I'm still tingling.
Ps. My golf game still needs some work. Do you think we can schedule another practice round. .
Until you posted we weren't talking about outdated pics, or info, or misleading services. I was responding to BFD who, echoing you, suggested that Cate shouldn't advertise at all if she weren't taking new clients-though she said "rarely", not "never"-and both of you seem to define "not taking clients" as "didn't see me". I never said she shouldn't advertise. And I don't really care if she sees new clients at this point. Like I stated before I said oh well and moved on.
And you, without current references, seem to've decided you could write your own screening requirements and she should just accept those in lieu of her own I never stated she should Accept me without new references, in fact I stated clearly that I understood why they are there in the first place.
(not to mention accepting your definition of age limits, even though she's older than you). I standby my Previous W. T. F, statement.
What you think sounds fair or reasonable is meaningless. HUH? Dude. I made the choice in paying the money. I'm the ultimate decider in what is fair and reasonable. That begins with the provider and stops with me. Example I saw a provider's ad, thought it was "fair and reasonable" and proceed from there. Hopefully in exchanging money for services. Thus is the way of the hobby my friend.
I do know that Miss Cate was kind enough to offer you a second chance to submit your info. And my response in Kind would be no thank you.
I respect your position as provider advocate. Someone needs to look out for the ladies and you do an awesome job.
I respect your position as provider advocate. Someone needs to look out for the ladies and you do an awesome job.But I like to think that if I advocate for anything it's a safer, saner, more considerate and respectful hobby for everyone, which ultimately would be better for hobbyists. It just so happens that the main impediment to that seems to be hobbyists, not providers. Or maybe that's because this is a hobbyist board, and if the women would let me in on their private conversations I'd be just as tiresome and long-winded in the opposite direction. I'll be happy to join in Top 25 Provider Complaints. I've called out women on deceptive advertising here and elsewhere.
I thought your question, and BFD's, were legitimate; I just think my answer was better. Believe me, I understand and share the frustration of non-replies. It's chiselers and misogynists I can't stand. And they, after all, are the reason Miss Cate, and every other sensible provider, makes you jump through hoops before you see her.
As for "What you think sounds fair or reasonable is meaningless," well, I just didn't say that very well. Your standard of safety has no bearing on her beliefs, and hers take precedence. You may know you're legitimate, but she doesn't. Furthermore, even as an honest hobbyist you may be into some things you consider to be permitted under the menu but she doesn't; she might find that out from your vouches, but she won't get it from the receptionist at your business. Not presumably, anyway. She might find out about your hygiene that way, though. What your money gets you is the right to ask for different treatment, and the right to go somewhere else if you don't.
But I like to think that if I advocate for anything it's a safer, saner, more considerate and respectful hobby for everyone, which ultimately would be better for hobbyists. It just so happens that the main impediment to that seems to be hobbyists, not providers. Or maybe that's because this is a hobbyist board, and if the women would let me in on their private conversations I'd be just as tiresome and long-winded in the opposite direction. I'll be happy to join in Top 25 Provider Complaints. I've called out women on deceptive advertising here and elsewhere.
I thought your question, and BFD's, were legitimate; I just think my answer was better. Believe me, I understand and share the frustration of non-replies. It's chiselers and misogynists I can't stand. And they, after all, are the reason Miss Cate, and every other sensible provider, makes you jump through hoops before you see her.
As for "What you think sounds fair or reasonable is meaningless," well, I just didn't say that very well. Your standard of safety has no bearing on her beliefs, and hers take precedence. You may know you're legitimate, but she doesn't. Furthermore, even as an honest hobbyist you may be into some things you consider to be permitted under the menu but she doesn't; she might find that out from your vouches, but she won't get it from the receptionist at your business. Not presumably, anyway. She might find out about your hygiene that way, though. What your money gets you is the right to ask for different treatment, and the right to go somewhere else if you don't. I agree and thats why I wasn't upset. I knew going in to this that Cate was probably one of the top providers in Indy. To my knowledge I have never seen a bad review. I gave it a shot without new refs and it didn't work out. Oh well I just move along and see someone else. I do believe the age excuse was be. S. And its this belief on my part as to why I'm not resubmitting my info. And anyway I'm still 37 so that attempt would still be a futile action. Miss Cate should run her business however she sees fit and it works because like I said before she has to be one of the top providers in the area. You don't get to or near the top without doing the right things.
Lastly, while we may not agree on everything I totally respect your opinion and your clarity to see and support the the hobby from both sides. I can't speak for anyone else but sometimes I only see the hobby from my side of the world.
I agree and thats why I wasn't upset. I knew going in to this that Cate was probably one of the top providers in Indy. To my knowledge I have never seen a bad review. I gave it a shot without new refs and it didn't work out. Oh well I just move along and see someone else. I do believe the age excuse was be. S. And its this belief on my part as to why I'm not resubmitting my info. And anyway I'm still 37 so that attempt would still be a futile action. Miss Cate should run her business however she sees fit and it works because like I said before she has to be one of the top providers in the area. You don't get to or near the top without doing the right things.
Lastly, while we may not agree on everything I totally respect your opinion and your clarity to see and support the the hobby from both sides. I can't speak for anyone else but sometimes I only see the hobby from my side of the world. BB as always has made a thoughtful and insightful comment, both directed at your posts and to the larger conversation. He and I have talked at length about how you can not ever say with certainty what transpires between two people trying to communicate, the dynamic can have so many facets that those on the outside will always struggle to get it straight. You made your points respectfully, which most all of us appreciate by the way, and that is what this forum is for. BB's position covers the big picture, and it was good of him to throw in the conversation, even though he has never seen Cate, and with what little I know of him I can still say that he probably never will due to his personal preferences. On the other hand, I have had the pleasure of getting to know Cate well over the years, both in and out of the hobby. She is if nothing else a unique creature, mercurial at times, but she is female so that may go with out saying; I find her to be interesting and funny and a few other things. She has fortunately gotten better and better and more strict with her screening, and more sophisticated than a lot of providers these days, when I first met her I am pretty sure that the only ref you needed was to have a penis and you were in. You shouldn't take the age thing personally, if I have heard her say once I have heard it a thousand times that she will not see anyone in their 30's (and under) and she is serious. It is part life experience and part her personal preference, thank God from all of us "elder" gentlemen we qualify by the way, but that is her. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but when it does it seems like 9 times out of 10 she will regret it, or at least say she does. And she truly seldom sees very many new clients, but some of us fade over time, move on to others, retire, go bankrupt or drop out of the hobby for all sorts of reasons, if she doesn't keep her name out there in this business you can be forgotten and passed over in a second. In addition, I think she just loves posting pictures and thoughts and needs the outlet, God save us all when her new website is up and running. I will also say that having spent a fair amount of time with her in all kinds of situations, that if she answered every email she gets in a day, let alone texts and calls, she would never have anytime left to take care of the "business" so to speak.( and I apologize to the guy Sun. morning when I returned her call by the way if you are here) This is true of a number of providers I have known; some hobbiests put a lot of pressure on them timewise, using it unwisely, and limiting how much they can get done, and is why it is always understandable that getting verified on the first date is always worth more than subsequent visits, as long as you don't dominate their time if they, like Cate, are very giving of it. Hey Osiruss, you will be eligible in a couple of years and may have time on your hands so never say never. I mostly don't care about it anymore, but when I was younger, every provider that turned me down became my project to get in to see, and unfortunately that blind ambition has meant on a number of occasions I wound up being with providers I wish I had taken them at their word and never seen them after all, live and learn.
Hello! I have made a new friend that would like to make some of your acquaintances!
Late 20's. 5'2".95 lbs. 32c, enhanced. Incall on the NW side. PM me with a phone number, I can txt you rates, pics and contact info. Senior, cool members please.
Catmando5411
05-03-11, 21:06
The Water Company advertises; Power & Light advertises, and neither one really cares whether you're a customer or not, because you've got nowhere else to go. Seems like Miss Cate's ads do strike a chord out there, and even good clients aren't necessarily forever.
I don't know Cate, and I wouldn't presume to speak for her anyway, but I do know that over the years I've gotten to see several women who advertised but were famously hard to reach because of *who* my references were, and *what* they said about me, and not just the fact that I had some. And over the years I've stuck to a practice of writing the best introduction I could, then, if I didn't get a response, either moving on or writing one more, depending on the level of desire. A better way seems to be getting to know established providers, finding out who gets along with whom, and seeing someone for the reference if no other reason.
Y'know, finally, Miss Cate was nice enough to answer here, which is a helluva lot more than I've gotten from some cancelled appointments, let alone introductory notes. Her advertising practices or her selection process aren't really open to debate.I ve seen Cate and I found it easy to set up. It helped that I had a reference she is friends with. I think that has a lot to do with it. As has been said. These girls face a myriad of risks from LEO to getting robbed and beaten by some freak. Her choice in the end. Sorry but you did miss one of the most amazingly skilled orators I've ever seen.
Prince Numenor
05-03-11, 22:31
I'm interested. Any info appreciated.
N.
Hello! I have made a new friend that would like to make some of your acquaintances!
Late 20's. 5'2".95 lbs. 32c, enhanced. Incall on the NW side. PM me with a phone number, I can txt you rates, pics and contact info. Senior, cool members please.
Seniors, I know a few of you might remember Latin Angel from last summer. She is visiting from Ft. Wayne right now. As a reminder, she was a really sweet girl with a tight body that she knew how to use! She has a new phone number, so seniors feel free to contact me if you want to see her again, and I'll give you her digits. I saw her multiple times in the past and was never disappointed.
Hi G. C.,
I may be interested in your new friend. She sounds like a little spinner! I like her stats. If I may ask, how are her oral skills? Does she go covered or BBBJ?
Thanks for any info.
Daniel
Hello! I have made a new friend that would like to make some of your acquaintances!
Late 20's. 5'2".95 lbs. 32c, enhanced. Incall on the NW side. PM me with a phone number, I can txt you rates, pics and contact info. Senior, cool members please.
Hi G. C,
I may be interested in your new friend. She sounds like a little spinner! I like her stats. If I may ask, how are her oral skills? Does she go covered or BBBJ?
Thanks for any info.
DanielPM me. It is easier that way!
Ok, that got my dick hard. Nuru nekkid freckles and might I add a little autumn in the sky combined with a nuru sensory will provide a magical surprise hopefully with me on top of it all. Geez, I have to control myself or I will have to clean my computer screen! God, the porn production I envision is F-ing awsome!
FF.
PS. I did and along with a kiss on his freckled ass, him being the only male I would ever do such a thing to! No Ilapp not even you! HOW stay out of this! 2N no comments from you either.I was in Indy for work a couple of weeks back and noticed you like freckles check this one out for your viewing enjoyment.
www.huntsville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60-specials-60-specials-ask-me-about-my-extras-21/4265349
It's about an 8hr drive straight down 65 South if can't help yourself. Be careful though Rocket Town is experiencing some heavy handed pressure at this time. I work down there about 3 or 4 months a year and it use to be a very good hobby town.
Member #4244
05-04-11, 16:03
My search has come to a close for a repeat ATF. All I can say is wow. Theresa is damn sexy, talented, and super fun. Like the NFL draft I threw my desired names on the board and after mixed feedback I passed on Nancy, Jenny, and Kayla on the south side. I played it safe and went for the best talent and value. She should be charging more but thank god for me she is not!
Whew.
Freckle Freak
05-05-11, 00:22
I was in Indy for work a couple of weeks back and noticed you like freckles check this one out for your viewing enjoyment.
www.huntsville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/60-specials-60-specials-ask-me-about-my-extras-21/4265349
It's about an 8hr drive straight down 65 South if can't help yourself. Be careful though Rocket Town is experiencing some heavy handed pressure at this time. I work down there about 3 or 4 months a year and it use to be a very good hobby town. She is cute, kinda looks like Faye Ragan the porn star with the freckles on the face. However, if I am going to drive that far south, then I will hang a right not left and head over to Lake Charles and see Ella the elf. Now she has some freckles I would like to do some very nasty things with. You can check her out here.
http://batonrouge.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ella-the-elf-here-and-ready_-_-20/4297372
Thanks for watching out for me, I can use all the help I can get. By the way MiaAnn who advertised on BP lately from the rocky mt state only had a few freckles. Not enough for me to get excited about.
FF.
PS. You know Autumnskyy has a very sexy freckled face.
Glue Czar,
You must have created quite a stir with your new friend.
Your mailbox is completely full. LOL
May 31st, according to website
May 31st, according to website"E" dot com was actually an excellent advertising and review board. The review side kept the advertising side honest. And they had a lot of profiles. The site even showed each girl's "join" date and the date of her most recent visit to her profile so it was possible to tell which profiles were "active" and which were "parked." I really liked the place, but the changes they made last October after the raid rendered the place worthless. So closing the place now is no loss.
I note paid memberships will be refunded if you provide your name and mailing address. Jesss. A guy pays his VIP with a credit card and they don't credit the credit card. That is mean spirited. I take back everything nice I said about them.
"E" dot com was actually an excellent advertising and review board. The review side kept the advertising side honest. And they had a lot of profiles. The site even showed each girl's "join" date and the date of her most recent visit to her profile so it was possible to tell which profiles were "active" and which were "parked." I really liked the place, but the changes they made last October after the raid rendered the place worthless. So closing the place now is no loss.
I note paid memberships will be refunded if you provide your name and mailing address. Jesss. A guy pays his VIP with a credit card and they don't credit the credit card. That is mean spirited. I take back everything nice I said about them. Just a guess here, but maybe the principals at E-com are not running the site any longer. Sounds to me like our uncle may still be involved.
Just a guess here, but maybe the principals at E-com are not running the site any longer. Sounds to me like our uncle may still be involved.That 'E' is run by the Feds is certainly the popular speculation. I'm not clear how that explains the site closing seven months after the raid. I would think the Feds would run it to gain information about the players in preparation for a bigger shoe to fall later. But I really don't know.
The site says the place is owned by R. S. Duffy Inc. which makes blue movies in California. I don't know where the servers are but the raid held in late October of 2010 was at a big office building in downtown Philadelphia. So it doesn't matter if the servers are overseas when the executives are in Philadelphia and California subject to arrest and prosecution for aiding and abetting P4P. I think we are talking about country club guys.
The site was back up rather quickly, just a few days after the raid. It had some changes. It appeared they were concerned about the possibility of under-age providers advertising, not that they had under-age advertisers but it appeared (reading between the lines) they didn't really know who the ads were from because they put up a big disclaimer on the subject and every woman's profile went down for those that didn't have credit card information on file. It seems our ages are recorded by our card issuers. So to get listed again the women had to pay by credit card. They didn't have to pay before unless they wanted VIP status.
Management took the reviews down which made sense since the reviews were promoting P4P. Then the reviews came back up in a limited way. The text description of the activities was eliminated. Everything was check-off boxes but no more checking off BBBJ and the like. So the reviews were vanilla. It made sense to me they were distancing themselves from being prosecuted for promoting, and they were clearly promoting the way they did business before with the way reviews were written. Step 2 on the reviews was a further restriction in the information fitting into the reviews to the point one couldn't tell anything really happened between a man and a woman. But there was a review. It was called a review. I don't know what it was but it was worthless.
The strength of the site was always its size. It had a lot of girls and it covered the entire country. With the raid the number of profiles tanked. Louisville, as an example, went from 12 pages of profiles to 2 pages. The women didn't rejoin with their credit cards.
The site had a message system (like USASG) so each side of the isle could contact the other through the system. Everyone became afraid to use the system.
A month after the raid, in November a bunch more profiles were dropped which I think was due to a price increase management put in. It must have hit the providers, too. I say that because the guys lost their ability to earn VIP status by writing a review. VIP status suddenly cost $150 / year and VIP status was the only way for a guy to see all the contact information of all the women. It took VIP status for the men to see all the contact information of all the women and it took VIP status for the women to have their contact information seen by all the men. So non-VIP guys could not see the contact information of non-VIP women. So the site became pointless except for those who bought the VIP status which was expensive. I doubt that many paid for VIP status given the place no longer had any meaningful reviews. But I really don't know.
I said the profiles in Louisville, using Louisville as an example, went from 12 pages to 2. Probably less than 1/3 of the women on those 2 pages were VIP (dues paying) women.
It looked to me like the whole place was going in the toilet from the standpoint of what it offered, and there was no benefit to be there any longer and it cost money to be there.
But you never know. Maybe the place was run by only 2 employees and made money. I don't know. But my nose tells me that R. S. Duffy Inc. with their movies in California didn't need to risk getting charged with promoting P4P and wimped out. That's how I add this up, but I really have no idea.
that 'e' is run by the feds is certainly the popular speculation. i'm not clear how that explains the site closing seven months after the raid.because paranoia is such a popular pastime.
the whole credit card thing spun rapidly out of its orbit circling planet reality:
1) a credit card can't be issued to anyone under 18. so anyone possessing a legitimate credit card proves his age for legal purposes by giving you that information.
2) thing is, though, *it didn't happen that way* i know two women whose profiles were dropped after the raid, who were not vips, and who were not aware of what had happened until i told them. both got back on simply by clicking the "i'm over 18" link on the splash screen that appeared after the site came back up. as did i, and probably most of you. i certainly never gave them any credit card info. i suppose it's possible that some people were misled, or misled themselves, into believing they had to become members to continue. but it certainly wasn't the case for everyone.
3) if the feds want your info they'll get it. never say never about someone with police powers, but the idea of the g culling a website looking for info it can turn over to the locals for some class a misdemeanor arrests is beyond the pale. we're talking thousands of man hours, and, fortunately, federal prosecutors generally know more about the law than hobbyists."writing a salacious review", or "interstate emailing of indecent proposals" are not crimes.
4) it's certainly possible that the whole point was blackmail, or that someone not above such things has access to the information, but if you're in a situation where discovery that you solicited women on a website could bring your world crashing down you should have been more careful with your info in the first place, or at least asked eliot spitzer for advice. the fact is that federal prosecutors-whether on orders, or as careerists-have been targeting small-to-mid cap porn producers for years, because they know they can't afford to defend themselves and will have to fold. low-hanging fruit.
was there more going on at edotcom? i don't know. but like most of you i was a regular, and the woman i contacted there were the people they said they were [give or take a couple years. ], not **** asian sex slaves, and it's now five months later and i'm still waiting for the startling revelations. in retrospect it *was* a big mistake not to have their servers away from the power of federal subpoena. but if some fed with an unlimited budget decides to come after you, the only real defense is a fortress made of money.
Hello! I have made a new friend that would like to make some of your acquaintances!
Late 20's. 5'2".95 lbs. 32c, enhanced. Incall on the NW side. PM me with a phone number, I can txt you rates, pics and contact info. Senior, cool members please. I believe you gave me and voluced for me with Terese, so why not a younger version. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
That 'E' is run by the Feds is certainly the popular speculation. I'm not clear how that explains the site closing seven months after the raid.Well that does explain the closing then if the Feds have been running the E site.
The guvment can't even do that right. (all in jest of course)
In reality I'm sure the closing is related to the fact that the watered down site offers literally nothing to anyone anymore. Their revenue streem must have plumetted and even if it still makes some money due to being a low overhead biz, as stated by GC, why risk their skin for a small take. No doubt the objective of the guvment was to disrupt the biz and in that end they have been successful.
I have to shut E. Com down, it's just not making any money for us. I mean, you the taxpayers. Plus, it's illegal. Damn you, Eric Holder!
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Northsideman
05-08-11, 21:08
I finally experienced the phenomenon that is Blaire. I could say Blaire is an incredible sweetheart, a force of nature, and a goddess but mere words don't come anywhere to describing her, not in a million years. The glowing reviews Blaire has received here and elsewhere don't do her justice either.
I first met Blaire when she worked at a now-defunct massage emporium in 2008, but I didn't have a session with her at that time. In February 2010 I called Blaire on a snowy night and we had a fascinating and very entertaining phone conversation on a variety of wholesome topics for over an HOUR! I didn't have a session with Blaire in 2010. But that phone talk, as much as anything else, inspired me to call her two weeks ago. I tend to procrastinate and I sometimes need a deadline to motivate me; Blaire's announcement that she was moving out of Indy did the trick.
Blaire invited me to her spacious house in a wealthy (and safe) neighborhood (when she answered the door I asked her "are you a millionaire?"!). The first thing she did was make a fresh pitcher of fruit juice and generously offer me some (I don't drink alcohol). We sat on her couch, watched a little TV, and had another great conversation. I was having so much fun just chatting with Blaire on the couch I almost forgot why I was there, until she asked "are you ready to go upstairs?".
The massage portion of my visit with Blaire was unbelievable as well. To call what Blaire does a GFE is a gross understatement. Blaire is extremely enthusiastic about her work. There were times when I told her she could just sit there and do nothing and she was actually disappointed that she wasn't actively doing things for (and to) me! One of the best moments of the session was when she walked over to close a loose door and she gave me a nice view! Blaire was a thousand times more affectionate and loving than any woman I've ever met in the real world.
I have an intense foot fetish; I've been with some providers who would do anything in the book but refused to give me foot services (one such chick wouldn't even take off her white socks for me!). Blaire gets extra points for letting me kiss her pretty feet and suck her gorgeous toes (and she got a bit tickled!).
Blaire didn't rush me at all, which is very important for me because I like to take things slow. We probably spent an hour "upstairs". And once we were back downstairs she didn't immediately hustle me out the door. We sat on her couch again for more fruit juice and conversation. Blaire is no clock watcher but she did finally ask to call it a night. All together she spent almost two hours with me! A vast improvement over the half hour sessions I used to get from her co-workers at her previous place of employment.
My visit with Blaire was absolutely, positively, hands down, no contest the BEST NIGHT OF WHOLE LIFE. Many, many times better than any date I've ever had with a civilian. My time with Blaire was fun, funny (in addition to being a an accomplished conversationalist she has a sparkling and contagious sense of humor!) , warm, sexy, passionate and above all romantic (and I'm usually a cynic who questions whether romance even exists). Everything a date with a woman is supposed to be but usually isn't.
As physically attractive as Blaire is, her finest asset is her wonderful personality. Blaire has a beautiful heart and soul! She has many fans here at USG and deservedly so. If anyone else wants to share any stories about Blaire, I'd love to her them (public post or PM, whichever you prefer). Blaire's current USG handle is "BlaireKarmen".
Occasionally angels walk among us mere mortals and Blaire is one of them. I almost never cry but I have literally shed tears over Blaire's departure. I will definitely never forget Blaire. Wherever Blaire goes I wish her a safe trip and a healthy and happy life!
I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?
Naughty169
05-09-11, 09:46
I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?I saw this on the news late one night. I never knew we had a big hispanic incall service. I would have loved that. What I heard was that the men traffic girls and they lived here in Indy. They had businesses in all the surrounding states and operated out of Indy.
Bleucheese
05-09-11, 11:39
I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?I too wondered how this could have existed here without any knowledge / reports on this forum. (It couldn't have ALL been happening via PM.) I think this was a system that was only for folks "in-the-know," but I have no idea who that would be. The report referenced something about business cards for seemingly legitimate business that contained the necessary info when decoded by the right people. Maybe I shouldn't have ignored "Happy Endings Lawn and Garden Service!"
Naughty169
05-09-11, 13:48
Anyone ever see this girl? Any info would be great.
She says she has a room 86th and michigan.
West Central
05-09-11, 17:21
I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?I always knew something was going on at International Village, even way back in the early 90s when I lived in Deercross. Never could get any answers though (my massive whiteness and lack of Espanol might have been the reason.)
Davidonecall
05-09-11, 21:02
I read in the paper about several different apartments that were backed by a Mexican cartel for pleasure. The System was many different states that catered to Hispanic men. It got busted. I did not see any mention on here. The artical was in the Star. Did I miss something?I have visited 2 location in Chicago. You have to be recommend by someone to go. Different women every 2 months and only out of $.2 for an hour. The girls are here to work then go back home with money. Some girls give you a massage then extra or just extra. They will not get force to do something that they don't want. I had a Colombian girl that like it greek.
Anybody have any info on this lady. PM please!
http://www.escorts.com/member/2843503/Guiliana
Mikehammerindy
05-11-11, 06:00
My search has come to a close for a repeat ATF. All I can say is wow. Theresa is damn sexy, talented, and super fun. Like the NFL draft I threw my desired names on the board and after mixed feedback I passed on Nancy, Jenny, and Kayla on the south side. I played it safe and went for the best talent and value. She could Be charging more but thank god for me she is not!
WhewThere, fixed it for you. It's a mistake I've made before too. If you want to piss a bunch of guys off on an escort board, tell "Miss Hot Thang" she should charge more.
There, fixed it for you. It's a mistake I've made before too. If you want to piss a bunch of guys off on an escort board, tell "Miss Hot Thang" she should charge more.Yeah, we can't have that. Bargain hunters, hagglers, and chiselers are the very life blood of the industry.
Member #4244
05-11-11, 16:05
Good catch! My bad.
There, fixed it for you. It's a mistake I've made before too. If you want to piss a bunch of guys off on an escort board, tell "Miss Hot Thang" she should charge more.
The Big R 2000
05-11-11, 16:29
Anybody have any info on this lady. PM please!
http://www.escorts.com/member/2843503/Guiliana
I attempted to see her today. I called and after some small chat, we agreed to meet right then. She gave me the apartment address and as I was on my way over, called and said she need to reschedule. Everytime I talked to her, it was obvious from backround noise that she was not alone. I wouldn't really have though that much of it, but when I went to kind of scope out the apartment, there was leo about 7 apartments down. Granted it could just be a coincidence, but it still spooked me.
TryinAgain2
05-11-11, 17:55
There, fixed it for you. It's a mistake I've made before too. If you want to piss a bunch of guys off on an escort board, tell "Miss Hot Thang" she should charge more.I suppose when you and Beall get a good meal at a restaurant you tell the waiter the bill was too low. Or when your doctor cures your STD, you ask him / her to charge you double, LOL. Right. . . .
What a stupid set of comments coming from those obviously with more dollars than sense.
TA2
I met this woman that lives on southside in a decent area. She does in / outcall. She is very reasonable on donation. I got her for an hr for 200. She has a profile on **************. Com. She doesn't have her number on the site due to privacy. You have to email her to set up a meeting only after you give a cpl references. After that its simple and easy to meet. She does pretty much everything from what I know except greek. She is one lady that squirts. If you like a woman that is easy going and friendly then contact her. She is worth it. Great conversationalist too. Here's the link to her profile below.
http://www.**************.com/escorts/jazabel-sloan-indianapolis-white-female
I attempted to see her today. I called and after some small chat, we agreed to meet right then. She gave me the apartment address and as I was on my way over, called and said she need to reschedule. Everytime I talked to her, it was obvious from backround noise that she was not alone. I wouldn't really have though that much of it, but when I went to kind of scope out the apartment, there was leo about 7 apartments down. Granted it could just be a coincidence, but it still spooked me.Funny but she is the third or fourth girl in the last week or two that lists Anderson (though not all did) and state that they work duos with MissMonroe1980. A couple of them really caught the eye of a friend and I. So happens a good provider friend is well acquainted with MM and she got my friend in touch with her. It was a little disturbing that she said she wasn't working with anyone, wasn't in town and knew nothing of those that allege to be her partners. Shame because a couple were very free errrr I mean cute, but I found those facts to be a little worrisome, don't you?
Freckle Freak
05-12-11, 08:49
Funny but she is the third or fourth girl in the last week or two that lists Anderson (though not all did) and state that they work duos with MissMonroe1980. A couple of them really caught the eye of a friend and I. So happens a good provider friend is well acquainted with MM and she got my friend in touch with her. It was a little disturbing that she said she wasn't working with anyone, wasn't in town and knew nothing of those that allege to be her partners. Shame because a couple were very free errrr I mean cute, but I found those facts to be a little worrisome, don't you?Hey Sherlock, you are right again. Miss Monroe does not advertise with anyone. She does most of her business out of town during the week. Anyone on e. Com or BP advertising doubles with her is a liar. Not sure why they advertise because it was too easy to find out it isn't true.
FF.
PS. Miss Monroe has freckles.
The Big R 2000
05-12-11, 09:42
Funny but she is the third or fourth girl in the last week or two that lists Anderson (though not all did) and state that they work duos with MissMonroe1980. A couple of them really caught the eye of a friend and I. So happens a good provider friend is well acquainted with MM and she got my friend in touch with her. It was a little disturbing that she said she wasn't working with anyone, wasn't in town and knew nothing of those that allege to be her partners. Shame because a couple were very free errrr I mean cute, but I found those facts to be a little worrisome, don't you?I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe MissMonroe1980 is a different girl then the MissMonroe that you are talking about.
TryinAgain2
05-12-11, 10:41
Glue Czar,
You must have created quite a stir with your new friend.
Your mailbox is completely full. LOLI saw her Monday, and she said I was only the second to do so. She hasn't been inundated with requests at this point. I'm not sure why, as when I saw the pics Glue forwarded me, I nearly shat. She's hot. The pics are a bit dated, and she may not be for everyone, but a great time was had and she's very hot in person. Nice girl too.
TA2
Anyone seen this lovely lady?
I was thinking of contacting Teresa for a visit. Can someone send me her contact info so that I may reach her? Feel free to PM.
Thanks,
BB
Freckle Freak
05-12-11, 16:07
I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe MissMonroe1980 is a different girl then the MissMonroe that you are talking about.Your right. I think 1980 is trying to capitalize on a well known name. (I allways considered changing my name to Kennedy just for the attention I would get). Sorry for the trouble.
FF.
PS. 1980 does not have freckles.
I saw her Monday, and she said I was only the second to do so. She hasn't been inundated with requests at this point. I'm not sure why, as when I saw the pics Glue forwarded me, I nearly shat. She's hot. The pics are a bit dated, and she may not be for everyone, but a great time was had and she's very hot in person. Nice girl too.
TA2If you saw her Monday you were one of at least 4 to do so, so don't feel too sad for her. Maybe you were the second to see her on Monday that was LOL.
I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe MissMonroe1980 is a different girl then the MissMonroe that you are talking about.Took a long look this morning and tried to sort out old phone numbers. Close to same age, and using the same name, have to wonder what that is all about. That also makes sense as to what the real MM was saying about people using her name and making her want to work out of Indy. When I was the "new" MissMonroe (1980) pic and profiles, I though maybe the original had just aged very poorly and put on a bunch of wait since she was working at a southside establishment in the not too distant past. I am actually glad they are different, scary otherwise.
Freckle Freak
05-12-11, 16:19
I recently saw a provider that I had seen before. She was about 30, shoulder length hair, tall, lean, tight body and petite. She was very hot. When I arrived at her place we talked about what she was doing with her life outside the biz. She was struggling to pay the bills from her fast food regular job and was doing this for the extra money. She also enjoyed men and had a few regulars whose company she enjoyed. She was trying to be careful with who she saw and keep things somewhat low key. This was a sweet young lady; her personality was very much my type. I had seen her once before for a quickie and wanted more on this trip. I was looking forward to it.
We lay down on the bed and talked, kissed, caressed. She is a good kisser. Clothes came off. Foreplay was on the menu. She moved on top of me providing an excellent BBBJ with more kissing and rubbing. As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'. I replied 'doesn't that feel good'. She protested again but only so slightly, about the way we were doing it. I told her I was clean and started pounding away. Her body responded favorably and I said doesn't that feel good. We continued in this position until I was ready. It was very hot. I stood up next to the bed and unloaded all over her. We cleaned up and I tried to cuddle but she asked me to leave saying her ride was waiting. I knew she enjoyed herself and told her I wanted to see her again. I even sent her a text thanking her for her time. Total cost $.5.
Now here is what I don't understand. A couple of days afterwards I text her to see how she is doing. She texted back asking 'why did I do it BB', 'was I clean' and 'I told you I didn't do it that way'. Come on now, I remembered what happened, I was in the room also. I texted her that I thought she wanted it that way. I said you enjoyed it. She never really complained. She didn't scream out NO, stop, or even so much as try and move. Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. Sure, BB isn't the safest way to go, but I seldom do it that way with any other providers. I am clean. I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics. Except maybe some of the HPV viruses, but hell everyone has those. That's why our daughters get the new shots that are available now. I think she is being a little rude. I have had providers slide it in without asking me. I may have protested a little but they didn't stop. I just don't understand the difference. But to think I purposefully took advantage of her. No way! She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
So I kind of look at most of the members of this board as the 'Knights of the round table' We stick together through thick and thin. We are honorable, loyal and of course never do any harm. I am sure Guinevere didn't complain about Lancelot doing her BB. So I think this is an example of what is good and bad in this hobby and possibly some of the ugly. I will leave it up to the members of this board to decide which is which. All these women are just wh*res anyway, right?
FF.
PS. I guess this wouldn't have happened if she had freckles.
Illiniman11
05-12-11, 16:22
Had a great, no awesome, dream about this young spinner again this afternoon. She was truly the definition of GFE. I woke drained but refreshed with a smile that is going to be very difficult to remove.
You said you've seen her before. Was BB implied during that session? If she was upset about it a couple days later to respond to your texts in such a manner, I'd say it's safe to say she won't be hanging out with you anymore. It's about trust and you may have crossed the line in regards to that trust. She did make it clear during the session that she was not comfortable going BB. You refer to her or them as "wh*res," but they still should be trusted, in regards to confidentiality among other things, and she should be able to trust you in situations like this. I'm not saying you broke any laws or anything, but this is unfortunate because of the trust factor, and if other providers read this, they may have a problem with seeing you, too. I kind of have a problem with the "wh*res" reference, especially after you call her a sweet young lady. The "wh*res" are people, too. They have lives, regular jobs, children and bills to pay. A lot of times we as hobbyists forget that.
Just my. 02.
Sincerely,
BFDeal.
I recently saw a provider that I had seen before. She was about 30, shoulder length hair, tall, lean, tight body and petite. She was very hot. When I arrived at her place we talked about what she was doing with her life outside the biz. She was struggling to pay the bills from her fast food regular job and was doing this for the extra money. She also enjoyed men and had a few regulars whose company she enjoyed. She was trying to be careful with who she saw and keep things somewhat low key. This was a sweet young lady; her personality was very much my type. I had seen her once before for a quickie and wanted more on this trip. I was looking forward to it.
We lay down on the bed and talked, kissed, caressed. She is a good kisser. Clothes came off. Foreplay was on the menu. She moved on top of me providing an excellent BBBJ with more kissing and rubbing. As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'. I replied 'doesn't that feel good'. She protested again but only so slightly, about the way we were doing it. I told her I was clean and started pounding away. Her body responded favorably and I said doesn't that feel good. We continued in this position until I was ready. It was very hot. I stood up next to the bed and unloaded all over her. We cleaned up and I tried to cuddle but she asked me to leave saying her ride was waiting. I knew she enjoyed herself and told her I wanted to see her again. I even sent her a text thanking her for her time. Total cost $.5.
Now here is what I don't understand. A couple of days afterwards I text her to see how she is doing. She texted back asking 'why did I do it BB', 'was I clean' and 'I told you I didn't do it that way'. Come on now, I remembered what happened, I was in the room also. I texted her that I thought she wanted it that way. I said you enjoyed it. She never really complained. She didn't scream out NO, stop, or even so much as try and move. Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. Sure, BB isn't the safest way to go, but I seldom do it that way with any other providers. I am clean. I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics. Except maybe some of the HPV viruses, but hell everyone has those. That's why our daughters get the new shots that are available now. I think she is being a little rude. I have had providers slide it in without asking me. I may have protested a little but they didn't stop. I just don't understand the difference. But to think I purposefully took advantage of her. No way! She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
So I kind of look at most of the members of this board as the 'Knights of the round table' We stick together through thick and thin. We are honorable, loyal and of course never do any harm. I am sure Guinevere didn't complain about Lancelot doing her BB. So I think this is an example of what is good and bad in this hobby and possibly some of the ugly. I will leave it up to the members of this board to decide which is which. All these women are just wh*res anyway, right?
FF.
PS. I guess this wouldn't have happened if she had freckles.
I attempted to see her today. I called and after some small chat, we agreed to meet right then. She gave me the apartment address and as I was on my way over, called and said she need to reschedule. Everytime I talked to her, it was obvious from backround noise that she was not alone. I wouldn't really have though that much of it, but when I went to kind of scope out the apartment, there was leo about 7 apartments down. Granted it could just be a coincidence, but it still spooked me.The profile is down.
Very curious.
Good spidey senses
FF.
Well here is my opinion I wouldn't do BB with anyone in biz or whom I just met. Sure I have wanted quite a few lovely women, without a cover, but it's not worth the risk. As for "you could tell she wanted it", it sounds like she is having some unnecessary worries about the event, and I sure it will translate in the next experiences that she has with other hobbyist. How do you know she was clean, by the look in her eye, or the way she parts her hair. I believe when she stated she wanted a cover, then you should have respected that. What if the guy before wasn't clean and did the same thing, would you think it was worth when got sick.
I have been reading this board for a long time, but I must say this was enough to make me say something.
JimBeamCoke
05-12-11, 19:02
Guess I don't get your sense of humor in your stories, becuase I doubt or hope you would not treat a provider that way especially when she said no twice.
I recently saw a provider that I had seen before. She was about 30, shoulder length hair, tall, lean, tight body and petite. She was very hot. When I arrived at her place we talked about what she was doing with her life outside the biz. She was struggling to pay the bills from her fast food regular job and was doing this for the extra money. She also enjoyed men and had a few regulars whose company she enjoyed. She was trying to be careful with who she saw and keep things somewhat low key. This was a sweet young lady; her personality was very much my type. I had seen her once before for a quickie and wanted more on this trip. I was looking forward to it.
We lay down on the bed and talked, kissed, caressed. She is a good kisser. Clothes came off. Foreplay was on the menu. She moved on top of me providing an excellent BBBJ with more kissing and rubbing. As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'. I replied 'doesn't that feel good'. She protested again but only so slightly, about the way we were doing it. I told her I was clean and started pounding away. Her body responded favorably and I said doesn't that feel good. We continued in this position until I was ready. It was very hot. I stood up next to the bed and unloaded all over her. We cleaned up and I tried to cuddle but she asked me to leave saying her ride was waiting. I knew she enjoyed herself and told her I wanted to see her again. I even sent her a text thanking her for her time. Total cost $.5.
Now here is what I don't understand. A couple of days afterwards I text her to see how she is doing. She texted back asking 'why did I do it BB', 'was I clean' and 'I told you I didn't do it that way'. Come on now, I remembered what happened, I was in the room also. I texted her that I thought she wanted it that way. I said you enjoyed it. She never really complained. She didn't scream out NO, stop, or even so much as try and move. Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. Sure, BB isn't the safest way to go, but I seldom do it that way with any other providers. I am clean. I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics. Except maybe some of the HPV viruses, but hell everyone has those. That's why our daughters get the new shots that are available now. I think she is being a little rude. I have had providers slide it in without asking me. I may have protested a little but they didn't stop. I just don't understand the difference. But to think I purposefully took advantage of her. No way! She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
So I kind of look at most of the members of this board as the 'Knights of the round table' We stick together through thick and thin. We are honorable, loyal and of course never do any harm. I am sure Guinevere didn't complain about Lancelot doing her BB. So I think this is an example of what is good and bad in this hobby and possibly some of the ugly. I will leave it up to the members of this board to decide which is which. All these women are just wh*res anyway, right?
FF.
PS. I guess this wouldn't have happened if she had freckles.
Member #5254
05-12-11, 19:41
I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics.
I agree with Jimbeamcoke. Surely this must be humor. The girl said no at least twice. Secondly, even if "everything else" can be taken care of with antibiotics, that would present a serious situation to many of us who have SO's to deal with, if something were to get spread around. We all know that BB happens, but most of us take precautions. Personally, if this is not humor, I am troubled. If it is humor, I don't get it.
Heritage
Freckle Freak raised the question of doing BBFS when the girl said no but offered no resistance. I'll pass on that for the time being.
The second question / statement:
(edit delete) All these women are just wh*res anyway, right? FF. (edit delete)Wrong.
JimBeamCoke
05-12-11, 20:38
Of course we agree, we just don't get his sense of humor.
The second question / statement:
Wrong. [/QUOTE]
I hope your were joking, or maybe your sly way of speaking of someone else, and that person (usag mbr) needs to be outed. But if not, then I'm trully worried about you my friend. Those actions don't sound like the FF I know.
TN
Catching up reports for the last the last few months.
Andreavirgo around Christmas. Sweet, GFE, real pics, nice young body and willing to try new things. Sadly, I've tried to see a couple of other times and we can't seem to connect.
Blaire at her house one snowy Feb day. (I'm one if the few that isn't enough of a fan to repeat. Pics accurate and she tried hard. Almost too hard. Guess I like a little more gofer than being mauled. .
Deb Libra in ft Wayne. We met for drinks then rolled back to my hotel. Absolutely outstanding! GFE to the Max!
Krissy woman. Service as promised and pic accurate but mechanical, rushing and kinda ghetto.
Nicole in Gwood. Not sure if pics are accurate tho close enough that I can't dispute. Would repeat. Very real girlnegirlnextdoor.
Kayla! Pics are accurate and a GREAT body. Less a GFE than a Fwb. Very fun, cool girl who was very comfortable and delivered a stellar performance. Phenomenal bargain.
Have fun and be careful.
JimBeamCoke
05-12-11, 21:12
Glad I am not the only one offended by a rape post.
I hope your were joking, or maybe your sly way of speaking of someone else, and that person (usag mbr) needs to be outed. But if not, then I'm trully worried about you my friend. Those actions don't sound like the FF I know.
TN
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1192591 She said 'No, I don't do it that way'.
She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
All these women are just wh*res anyway, right? [/QUOTE]
Going back to the idea of "respect" between hobbyist & provider, once "No" is said regarding any activity, it should be honored. Even without respect no means no. She said no, that, to me, means she did not want it that way.
If you take literally the definition of "wh*re" it means BOTH people that sell sex AND those that buy it. It is generally considered a deragaotry term aimed at female providers but in truth applies to hobbyists as well.
Member #4125
05-12-11, 21:34
I hope your were joking, or maybe your sly way of speaking of someone else, and that person (usag mbr) needs to be outed. But if not, then I'm trully worried about you my friend. Those actions don't sound like the FF I know.
TNMy vote is that he spent more time thinking of a creative way to post something he heard that bothered him (FYI, it bothers me too) , than thinking through what he was actually posting. Unfortunately this reeks of an attempt to right wrongs that he only has third hand knowledge of. That can be hit or miss... usually miss.
JimBeamCoke
05-12-11, 22:06
Interestign perceptive, but wouldn't most if not all guys agree that this is wrong, therefore, why make the post? Is he trying to show that there is bad men in this world, I think we know the answer to that question. Is he making the post to show the what providers risk? Maybe he is. But guys that have visited a provider more than once usually get the scoop on what they have have to deal with, so again why make this post? I think this was a miss post.
My vote is that he spent more time thinking of a creative way to post something he heard that bothered him (FYI, it bothers me too) , than thinking through what he was actually posting. Unfortunately this reeks of an attempt to right wrongs that he only has third hand knowledge of. That can be hit or miss... usually miss.
Member #4125
05-12-11, 22:31
Interestign perceptive, but wouldn't most if not all guys agree that this is wrong, therefore, why make the post? Is he trying to show that there is bad men in this world, I think we know the answer to that question. Is he making the post to show the what providers risk? Maybe he is. But guys that have visited a provider more than once usually get the scoop on what they have have to deal with, so again why make this post? I think this was a miss post.
I don't know FF, so it's only a guess at why. My opinion is that the scenarios you've laid out make a lot of sense, so he is either one of the guys who doesn't agree this is wrong or he's trying to make a point. Either way, we are just debating degrees of wrong. My $.02
I began typing out a catch-up report without reading the thread for the last few days. I'm anxious to read ff's next post. The post doesn't at all sound like him.
Member #4244
05-13-11, 06:17
FF,
Way to stir the pot! This actually is a great post. I had a date once who did not give me the opportunity to say no. We had already been engaged in the act, using a condom, and she reaches down slips it off, holds the condom up and asks "you don't really need this do you?". I had thought she was just grabbing me, and had already gone back inside if her. Was that rape?
I don't know that I felt that it was rape but I did feel violated. I had made a conscious choice to wear a condom and did not get to decide otherwise. We both had obviously consented, and fortunately for me she was clean. What if she had a serious disease, would that have been attempted murder?
I think we all can agree that your story is wrong on many levels. My question is more along the lines of what you call it, then anything else. Does the unsolicited BBFS void original consent? Is this now rape? Either way, whomever did this makes the hobby unsafe for everyone, especially the provider working so hard to take extra precautions.
I recently saw a provider that I had seen before. She was about 30, shoulder length hair, tall, lean, tight body and petite. She was very hot. When I arrived at her place we talked about what she was doing with her life outside the biz. She was struggling to pay the bills from her fast food regular job and was doing this for the extra money. She also enjoyed men and had a few regulars whose company she enjoyed. She was trying to be careful with who she saw and keep things somewhat low key. This was a sweet young lady; her personality was very much my type. I had seen her once before for a quickie and wanted more on this trip. I was looking forward to it.
We lay down on the bed and talked, kissed, caressed. She is a good kisser. Clothes came off. Foreplay was on the menu. She moved on top of me providing an excellent BBBJ with more kissing and rubbing. As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'. I replied 'doesn't that feel good'. She protested again but only so slightly, about the way we were doing it. I told her I was clean and started pounding away. Her body responded favorably and I said doesn't that feel good. We continued in this position until I was ready. It was very hot. I stood up next to the bed and unloaded all over her. We cleaned up and I tried to cuddle but she asked me to leave saying her ride was waiting. I knew she enjoyed herself and told her I wanted to see her again. I even sent her a text thanking her for her time. Total cost $.5.
Now here is what I don't understand. A couple of days afterwards I text her to see how she is doing. She texted back asking 'why did I do it BB', 'was I clean' and 'I told you I didn't do it that way'. Come on now, I remembered what happened, I was in the room also. I texted her that I thought she wanted it that way. I said you enjoyed it. She never really complained. She didn't scream out NO, stop, or even so much as try and move. Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. Sure, BB isn't the safest way to go, but I seldom do it that way with any other providers. I am clean. I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics. Except maybe some of the HPV viruses, but hell everyone has those. That's why our daughters get the new shots that are available now. I think she is being a little rude. I have had providers slide it in without asking me. I may have protested a little but they didn't stop. I just don't understand the difference. But to think I purposefully took advantage of her. No way! She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
So I kind of look at most of the members of this board as the 'Knights of the round table' We stick together through thick and thin. We are honorable, loyal and of course never do any harm. I am sure Guinevere didn't complain about Lancelot doing her BB. So I think this is an example of what is good and bad in this hobby and possibly some of the ugly. I will leave it up to the members of this board to decide which is which. All these women are just wh*res anyway, right?
FF.
PS. I guess this wouldn't have happened if she had freckles.
Glad I am not the only one offended by a rape post.Earlier this week was that two established providers report being forcibly barebacked by a hobbyist well-known around town. I know the names of the providers, but was not told who the hobbyist was. Did you hear that story too, FF, and decide to dramatize it? If so you really need to clear that up.
As I understand it, neither incident was reported to the police. I pass no judgment on that decision, but I will note that 1) the behavior qualifies as rape under Indiana statutes, and most likely as Class A rape; 2) the statute of limitations on Class B rape is one year; there is no statute of limitations on Class A rape; and 3) you won't be sending emails back and forth with the guys you meet in prison, asking why *they* didn't use condoms.
I really hope this was just a joke FF. But yes my friend that is rape. I hope she is still not pursuing this. Good luck.
FF,
Way to stir the pot! This actually is a great post. I had a date once who did not give me the opportunity to say no. We had already been engaged in the act, using a condom, and she reaches down slips it off, holds the condom up and asks "you don't really need this do you?". I had thought she was just grabbing me, and had already gone back inside if her. Was that rape?
I don't know that I felt that it was rape but I did feel violated. I had made a conscious choice to wear a condom and did not get to decide otherwise. We both had obviously consented, and fortunately for me she was clean. What if she had a serious disease, would that have been attempted murder?
I think we all can agree that your story is wrong on many levels. My question is more along the lines of what you call it, then anything else. Does the unsolicited BBFS void original consent? Is this now rape? Either way, whomever did this makes the hobby unsafe for everyone, especially the provider working so hard to take extra precautions.
Earlier this week was that two established providers report being forcibly barebacked by a hobbyist well-known around town. I know the names of the providers, but was not told who the hobbyist was. Did you hear that story too, FF, and decide to dramatize it? If so you really need to clear that up.Is this the new way to report a crime, anonomously, by posting the info on a board such as this. Thinking that LE will now check into this? I guess that is as plausible as the other theories. Interesting post, but certainly strange. I'm sure we will learn more.
And you say that two providers reported this in the same week. Actions by the same hobbyist. There is certainly more to this story than what has been posted here thus far, it seems. It doesn't seem logical that the accounting posted here would be posted as his own accounting of what HE DID. This is not the confessional, or is it? Strange.
West Central
05-13-11, 09:40
I have two guesses here. Either FF's account has been hijacked by someone else, or there is a huge metaphor in this story that I'm missing but will be revealed in time.
I recently saw a provider that I had seen before. She was about 30, shoulder length hair, tall, lean, tight body and petite. She was very hot. When I arrived at her place we talked about what she was doing with her life outside the biz. She was struggling to pay the bills from her fast food regular job and was doing this for the extra money. She also enjoyed men and had a few regulars whose company she enjoyed. She was trying to be careful with who she saw and keep things somewhat low key. This was a sweet young lady; her personality was very much my type. I had seen her once before for a quickie and wanted more on this trip. I was looking forward to it.
We lay down on the bed and talked, kissed, caressed. She is a good kisser. Clothes came off. Foreplay was on the menu. She moved on top of me providing an excellent BBBJ with more kissing and rubbing. As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'. I replied 'doesn't that feel good'. She protested again but only so slightly, about the way we were doing it. I told her I was clean and started pounding away. Her body responded favorably and I said doesn't that feel good. We continued in this position until I was ready. It was very hot. I stood up next to the bed and unloaded all over her. We cleaned up and I tried to cuddle but she asked me to leave saying her ride was waiting. I knew she enjoyed herself and told her I wanted to see her again. I even sent her a text thanking her for her time. Total cost $.5.
Now here is what I don't understand. A couple of days afterwards I text her to see how she is doing. She texted back asking 'why did I do it BB', 'was I clean' and 'I told you I didn't do it that way'. Come on now, I remembered what happened, I was in the room also. I texted her that I thought she wanted it that way. I said you enjoyed it. She never really complained. She didn't scream out NO, stop, or even so much as try and move. Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. Sure, BB isn't the safest way to go, but I seldom do it that way with any other providers. I am clean. I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics. Except maybe some of the HPV viruses, but hell everyone has those. That's why our daughters get the new shots that are available now. I think she is being a little rude. I have had providers slide it in without asking me. I may have protested a little but they didn't stop. I just don't understand the difference. But to think I purposefully took advantage of her. No way! She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
So I kind of look at most of the members of this board as the 'Knights of the round table' We stick together through thick and thin. We are honorable, loyal and of course never do any harm. I am sure Guinevere didn't complain about Lancelot doing her BB. So I think this is an example of what is good and bad in this hobby and possibly some of the ugly. I will leave it up to the members of this board to decide which is which. All these women are just wh*res anyway, right?
FF.
PS. I guess this wouldn't have happened if she had freckles.
Bleucheese
05-13-11, 10:14
Earlier this week was that two established providers report being forcibly barebacked by a hobbyist well-known around town. I know the names of the providers, but was not told who the hobbyist was. Did you hear that story too, FF, and decide to dramatize it? If so you really need to clear that up.
As I understand it, neither incident was reported to the police. I pass no judgment on that decision, but I will note that 1) the behavior qualifies as rape under Indiana statutes, and most likely as Class A rape; 2) the statute of limitations on Class B rape is one year; there is no statute of limitations on Class A rape; and 3) you won't be sending emails back and forth with the guys you meet in prison, asking why *they* didn't use condoms. So, the purpose of this board being what it is, shouldn't we know the names of the providers in question? Maybe not posted publicly, but at least via PM? A few things that came to my mind as it relates to the activities of the hobby (nothing having to do with the legal aspects of the situation or morality of what was alleged to have taken place. Wait did I just type the word morality?) :
-The safety of the next hobbyist, in the event this guy wasn't clean. Who knows what avenues the providers will take to get tested, treated, etc. This is how things get spread through a hobby community.
-The quality of the experience may go down as the provider gets a little hesistant about seeing future clients, which would be understandable under the circumstances.
-Potential entanglings moving forward. For example, the prior incident goes unreported, but maybe there are some residual feelings that are building, and she decides to report another hobbyist for something that occurs, or that she perceives to occur, in another session.
-Another take on the above comment, maybe she arms herself with say a knife, gun or some muscle of some kind, and again, if anything happens that she doesn't like, she lashes out against some poor unsuspecting hobbyist.
There are a lot of considerations here, IMO. I would appreciate knowing, via PM, who the providers in question are. I think too, that if FF would weigh in here, he could shed quite a bit of light on this situation (or Jackson is his account has been compromised).
I think it is imperative that the providers are also aware of this so called respected senior member. I do have Japanese Katana Swords in my play area and I'm not afraid if forced to demonstrate my Kung Fu Skill. I read this and it reminds me of a Greenwood man who was knowingly HIV positive and having unprotected sex and infected several women. There are enough risks in this hobby for all of us. I wish these two women and whomever else may have encountered this ahole the best. Don't let one bad seed ruin the bunch. I also see where this will tighten the "senior members" in requesting appts with providers. It has been stated it was a Sr member and, now it may be possible a provider will now think twice about seeing a Sr.
So, the purpose of this board being what it is, shouldn't we know the names of the providers in question? Maybe not posted publicly, but at least via PM? I heard the story days ago; I have since had it confirmed by a second provider, and the rough details confirmed, in a way, by another board member. They are all in my confidence, and they are all free to post here themselves.
I repeated the broad outline solely with the intent of asking FF to clarify whether that was what he was talking about. I'm not trying to convince anyone else about what happened. I don't know myself. I know, as I said, the story I was told.
Further, the matter is one which, if true, has seriously injured at least one party, and which could have life-changing effects on others. That's not a matter for hearsay, even by PM.
Member #4244
05-13-11, 11:36
I thought this was a great post assuming, like others, that this was a hypothetical situation and / or something read about in another state. This is unacceptable to have happened anywhere, let alone on our home turf.
Earlier this week was that two established providers report being forcibly barebacked by a hobbyist well-known around town. I know the names of the providers, but was not told who the hobbyist was. Did you hear that story too, FF, and decide to dramatize it? If so you really need to clear that up.
As I understand it, neither incident was reported to the police. I pass no judgment on that decision, but I will note that 1) the behavior qualifies as rape under Indiana statutes, and most likely as Class A rape; 2) the statute of limitations on Class B rape is one year; there is no statute of limitations on Class A rape; and 3) you won't be sending emails back and forth with the guys you meet in prison, asking why *they* didn't use condoms.
Davidonecall
05-13-11, 11:37
Freckle Freak raised the question of doing BBFS when the girl said no but offered no resistance. I'll pass on that for the time being.
The second question / statement:
Wrong. If she say no its no. Also I don't agree with you statement of all girls are, no they are not. You found one that is actually nice and has a job but need the extra cash and you treat her like dirt. If this post is true than I have lost respect for FF. He is wrong in doing that and no I can't stick together with someone like that. You would respect women. There is menu time that the moment you just want BBFS but come on no is always no. No excuse.
I can only express that I am confused. FF has never talked like this before. He is well known and this seems out of character. If it is a true post from him, it is hard to take. We all know the rules of conduct. I want to believe that someone did hijack his profile or that it is a work of fiction.
Why would anyone ever post that story unless it was fiction? If true I can only conclude that I am not jaded enough to be in the hobby. I keep trying to seek some level of chivalry with what I consider to be courtesans, concubines, or geishas. Wh*e is just to ugly a word for me. I look at the ladies as therapists.
If FF's profile was hijacked that could have further repercussions. Hoping this is a joke that came late from April 1st.
The actions did happen to one provider that we all know. BUT IT WAS NOT FF THAT WAS THE OFFENDER. That is for certain, I do know that for sure. Why he chose to express himself that way. Maybe to get the rat to show himself.
The actions did happen to one provider that we all know. BUT IT WAS NOT FF THAT WAS THE OFFENDER. That is for certain, I do know that for sure. Why he chose to express himself that way. Maybe to get the rat to show himself.For the record (maybe "record" should be in quotes) , the original story I heard said *two* providers. A later communication from someone else, after this broke here, *suggests, but does not state, that the issue is only about one. But that case is quite serious.
I'm very glad to hear it's not FF, but he should not assume the sins of others. He can look at this board and see that most people did not want to believe it about him, despite the way he wrote it, and he can see that most all of us share a sense of outrage. We don't necessarily agree that we all deserve the details, but he does deserve to have his reputation restored by a basic airing of the facts. Thanks for starting the process.
FF,
You have always offered stimulating thoughts to this public forum. But this time you may have outdone yourself! It appears the board is in agreement the alleged situation should not have happened. Even to a point of disbelief that you personally would have done so. You are usually the first to jump to a provider's defense. So we must then guess at your intent.
Although there is a lot of innuendo, or. Withholding of specific details while making a post, your latest seems to cross a line. I have found the spirit of this board, ie to provide helpful information, albeit entertaining, to persons of like interests, very refreshing. Yet your last post has me and apparently others more than a little concerned. For your sake, if that was a personal account, hopefully, you have already visited a clinic. For the sake of other providers, if it wasn't you, I think you should probably divulge the villain. And lastly, about which I am still undecided, for the sake of all the hobbyists, you should probably divulge the provider. Although, that is more delicate. (She probably confided in you. It sounds like no fault of her own. And it would likely hinder her income.) Regardless, I do strongly believe it is in everyone's best interest that you come forward with more information.
Thank You for your sincerity and chivalry.
Daniel
Indy Jhn11
05-13-11, 14:18
I think I have previously met FF's provider from his 'report'. If any of this is true, FF, you seriously crossed a line bub, and the rest of us are going to find out. Even if this provider doesn't want take any complaints or legal action against you, you crossed the line, simple as that. I had to read and reread that several times, getting more pissed off each time. Now that I've cooled down some, I had to chime in and say that you shoulda stopped and covered up when that lady asked you to. You've probably seriously blacklisted yourself #$%$.
JimBeamCoke
05-13-11, 18:38
After consideration and messages sent I agree with Two Balls that this was not FF that was the offender.
The actions did happen to one provider that we all know. BUT IT WAS NOT FF THAT WAS THE OFFENDER. That is for certain, I do know that for sure. Why he chose to express himself that way. Maybe to get the rat to show himself.
The actions did happen to one provider that we all know. BUT IT WAS NOT FF THAT WAS THE OFFENDER. That is for certain, I do know that for sure. Why he chose to express himself that way. Maybe to get the rat to show himself.If this really happened to 2 providers that is really unfortunate. I have no idea which providers it might have happened to but there is a very well known provider that I have seen a few times that I tried to contact this week to no avail. It's very much unlike her to not respond and let me know that at the least she might not be available. She usually gets back to me within the same day. I tried to schedule with her 4 days in advance and she hasn't gotten back with me. I hope she wasn't one of the providers violated like that because she's a sweetheart.
I'm not sure if I buy that it wasn't FF or that it was bad joke that all of us just didn't get. First thing, I wouldn't think it too easy to hijack someone's account. I don't know of any other instance of it happening here. And if that did happen, why hasn't FF posted some time within the last 24 hours and say someone hacked his account.
Second, it doesn't read like a normal FF post at first because of all the description. That's not what he usually does. But with this post, it was all about damage control. He was trying to justify his behavior and get his side of the story out. (And some of it did sound uniquely FF. The Knights of the round table stuff)
Third, I don't think he was writing a story about some one else or trying to make some kind of point that we all missed. The story was very straight forward. And he made a freckle reference at the end. Something he wouldn't do unless the story was about him.
I could be wrong, but I'll believe the most logical explanation is the simplest one: that FF wrote the post and that there wasn't any subtext that we all missed. He should, at the very least, leave this site. No woman should be treated that way and we certainly shouldn't put up with someone who does that sort of thing.
I recently saw a provider that I had seen before. She was about 30, shoulder length hair, tall, lean, tight body and petite. She was very hot. When I arrived at her place we talked about what she was doing with her life outside the biz. She was struggling to pay the bills from her fast food regular job and was doing this for the extra money. She also enjoyed men and had a few regulars whose company she enjoyed. She was trying to be careful with who she saw and keep things somewhat low key. This was a sweet young lady; her personality was very much my type. I had seen her once before for a quickie and wanted more on this trip. I was looking forward to it.
We lay down on the bed and talked, kissed, caressed. She is a good kisser. Clothes came off. Foreplay was on the menu. She moved on top of me providing an excellent BBBJ with more kissing and rubbing. As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'. I replied 'doesn't that feel good'. She protested again but only so slightly, about the way we were doing it. I told her I was clean and started pounding away. Her body responded favorably and I said doesn't that feel good. We continued in this position until I was ready. It was very hot. I stood up next to the bed and unloaded all over her. We cleaned up and I tried to cuddle but she asked me to leave saying her ride was waiting. I knew she enjoyed herself and told her I wanted to see her again. I even sent her a text thanking her for her time. Total cost $.5.
Now here is what I don't understand. A couple of days afterwards I text her to see how she is doing. She texted back asking 'why did I do it BB', 'was I clean' and 'I told you I didn't do it that way'. Come on now, I remembered what happened, I was in the room also. I texted her that I thought she wanted it that way. I said you enjoyed it. She never really complained. She didn't scream out NO, stop, or even so much as try and move. Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. Sure, BB isn't the safest way to go, but I seldom do it that way with any other providers. I am clean. I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics. Except maybe some of the HPV viruses, but hell everyone has those. That's why our daughters get the new shots that are available now. I think she is being a little rude. I have had providers slide it in without asking me. I may have protested a little but they didn't stop. I just don't understand the difference. But to think I purposefully took advantage of her. No way! She wanted it that way, it was clear to me.
So I kind of look at most of the members of this board as the 'Knights of the round table' We stick together through thick and thin. We are honorable, loyal and of course never do any harm. I am sure Guinevere didn't complain about Lancelot doing her BB. So I think this is an example of what is good and bad in this hobby and possibly some of the ugly. I will leave it up to the members of this board to decide which is which. All these women are just wh*res anyway, right?
FF.
PS. I guess this wouldn't have happened if she had freckles.
Member #4125
05-14-11, 11:07
My vote is that he spent more time thinking of a creative way to post something he heard that bothered him (FYI, it bothers me too) , than thinking through what he was actually posting. Unfortunately this reeks of an attempt to right wrongs that he only has third hand knowledge of. That can be hit or miss... usually miss.
Interestign perceptive, but wouldn't most if not all guys agree that this is wrong, therefore, why make the post? Is he trying to show that there is bad men in this world, I think we know the answer to that question. Is he making the post to show the what providers risk? Maybe he is. But guys that have visited a provider more than once usually get the scoop on what they have have to deal with, so again why make this post? I think this was a miss post.
After consideration and messages sent I agree with Two Balls that this was not FF that was the offender.I couldn't tell if you were refering to my post as the miss, or his. Regardless, the points you detailed seem to fall in line with reality. I'm still at "why make this post", are you still at the same place?
Sensorysrprise
05-14-11, 12:58
So, the purpose of this board being what it is, shouldn't we know the names of the providers in question? Maybe not posted publicly, but at least via PM? A few things that came to my mind as it relates to the activities of the hobby (nothing having to do with the legal aspects of the situation or morality of what was alleged to have taken place. Wait did I just type the word morality?) :
-The safety of the next hobbyist, in the event this guy wasn't clean. Who knows what avenues the providers will take to get tested, treated, etc. This is how things get spread through a hobby community.
-The quality of the experience may go down as the provider gets a little hesistant about seeing future clients, which would be understandable under the circumstances.
-Potential entanglings moving forward. For example, the prior incident goes unreported, but maybe there are some residual feelings that are building, and she decides to report another hobbyist for something that occurs, or that she perceives to occur, in another session.
-Another take on the above comment, maybe she arms herself with say a knife, gun or some muscle of some kind, and again, if anything happens that she doesn't like, she lashes out against some poor unsuspecting hobbyist.
There are a lot of considerations here, IMO. I would appreciate knowing, via PM, who the providers in question are. I think too, that if FF would weigh in here, he could shed quite a bit of light on this situation (or Jackson is his account has been compromised). Really? It's none of yours, or anyone else's business, unless the providers in question want to inform you themselves. It's nice to see that you have so much concern that you feel the providers should now be "blacklisted", because they reported an incident where they were taken advantage of. Because they spoke the ugly truth of what can and does happen in this hobby. You are a hobbyist right? Don't you take a potential risk with every provider you see? How many of these providers go BB with other men that you are unaware of? Maybe they have cheating boyfriends, or husbands. Maybe there has has been a sexual assault in there past, that you have no clue about. Do you perform or receive BB oral services? Because HSV1 and HSV2 can be shared both ways and 90% of people NEVER know they have it. There are a lot of possibilities out there. I can guarantee you that both providers are smart women, and have been tested, and treated for any possibilities. When was the last time you were tested?
A few here refuse to believe their eyes that Freckle Freak confessed to being a bareback sneak. One of Freckle Freak's better justifications,
Of course I am a big guy and she is petite but she could have moved. He ended his post by saying,
All these women are just wh*res anyway, right? The extent to which his friends are making excuses is extraordinary. Two Nutts tried to help Freckle Freak out, but he wasn't thinking first.
I do know The actions did happen to one provider that we all know. BUT IT WAS NOT FF THAT WAS THE OFFENDER. That is for certain, I do know that for sure. Why he chose to express himself that way. Maybe to get the rat to show himself.They can't both be telling the truth and be talking about the same escort. Reverse it. If they are talking about the same escort, they can't both be telling the truth. This whole thing is a train wreck. I wouldn't believe any explanation. Not that I would believe any of the women coming forward on his behalf, but none have.
It occurred to me Freckle Freak might have thought he was sending a PM, not that would separate him from his words.
I'm sorry for the woman involved.
I couldn't tell if you were refering to my post as the miss, or his. Regardless, the points you detailed seem to fall in line with reality. I'm still at "why make this post", are you still at the same place?As not a very active member I just want to say that this is unacceptable and this member if he really did what was described in the post should at least know that this behavior is not accepted on this board and majority of the members if not all are disgraced with his actions! Shame on you!
I'm not HIV positive and everything else can be taken care of with some antibiotics.Just for clarification, for anyone who actually believes this-gonorrhea / chlamydia take 2 weeks for symptoms to show up, and for many women symptoms aren't obvious enough that they may not even know they have it.
In which case, YOU could have gotten it from her, and brought it home to your wife (If you have one) or given it to any other girl you choose to sleep with unprotected within that 2 weeks before your dick starts burning when you pee.
Furthermore, if you had it and given it to her, she could have gone home and given it to her boyfriend, or sex buddy, or whoever else she is having sex with unprotected outside of the hobby.
And those people could have given it to whoever they're having sex with.
Basically, thinking this way is very selfish. You both need to get tested ASAP before sleeping with other people.
Do not have sex with someone who has sex for living without seeing a clean bill of health from them.
Do not have sex with someone who buys sex from people who sell sex without seeing a clean bill of health from them.
She should have pushed you the fuck off and made your dirty ass leave.
You should have resisted the urge and not done that with a hooker.
Go get tested please please please.
Davidonecall
05-15-11, 02:46
A few here refuse to believe their eyes that Freckle Freak confessed to being a bareback sneak. One of Freckle Freak's better justifications,
He ended his post by saying,
The extent to which his friends are making excuses is extraordinary. Two Nutts tried to help Freckle Freak out, but he wasn't thinking first.
They can't both be telling the truth and be talking about the same escort. Reverse it. If they are talking about the same escort, they can't both be telling the truth. This whole thing is a train wreck. I wouldn't believe any explanation. Not that I would believe any of the women coming forward on his behalf, but none have.
It occurred to me Freckle Freak might have thought he was sending a PM, not that would separate him from his words.
I'm sorry for the woman involved. GC understand like I did. If FF would have defended himself first I would have taken it a little different but he did not. At least say he did a mistake at that passionate moment I would have understand. But say degraded things about all the girls and then saying we all stick together that's all wrong.
Just for clarification, for anyone who actually believes this-gonorrhea / chlamydia take 2 weeks for symptoms to show up, and for many women symptoms aren't obvious enough that they may not even know they have it.
In which case, YOU could have gotten it from her, and brought it home to your wife (If you have one) or given it to any other girl you choose to sleep with unprotected within that 2 weeks before your dick starts burning when you pee.
Furthermore, if you had it and given it to her, she could have gone home and given it to her boyfriend, or sex buddy, or whoever else she is having sex with unprotected outside of the hobby.
And those people could have given it to whoever they're having sex with.
Basically, thinking this way is very selfish. You both need to get tested ASAP before sleeping with other people.
Do not have sex with someone who has sex for living without seeing a clean bill of health from them.
Do not have sex with someone who buys sex from people who sell sex without seeing a clean bill of health from them.
She should have pushed you the fuck off and made your dirty ass leave.
You should have resisted the urge and not done that with a hooker.
Go get tested please please please. Sound and sensible advice, of course. But this isn't just an issue of safety; safety, as vitally important as it is, is an issue which can be addressed before the doors close. If people want to agree to risky behaviors, however defined, it is their business, though I think we all hope that unprotected sex is not among them, and that any hobbyist who suggests it gets a kick in the nads, real or figurative.
This is about the betrayal of trust behind closed doors. That violation is something many hobbyists need to be made to see. It's gratifying that there's been a universal condemnation of the offender which FF was portraying. But the added risk of social disease (not to mention, as here, the possible emotional toll on a lot of people) does not wholly separate this sort of act from all sorts of boorish (or thuggish) behavior, from short envelopes to attempts to get what is clearly refused.
If FF wanted us to talk about this in the larger sense, there it is: people-and they, despite any he said / she said denials, are almost exclusively hobbyists-who walk through this hobby thinking that the only thing which matters is themselves, thinking that they aren't connected to anything or anyone else, aren't responsible for safety; people who think it's only about what they get in a temporary fix, how much the gum cost, or what it tasted like, before they throw the wrapper in the street, well, there are a lot of diseases whose symptoms never show, or never become apparent to the sufferer. And some which some people celebrate.
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Bleucheese
05-15-11, 10:01
Really? It's none of yours, or anyone else's business, unless the providers in question want to inform you themselves. It's nice to see that you have so much concern that you feel the providers should now be "blacklisted", because they reported an incident where they were taken advantage of. Because they spoke the ugly truth of what can and does happen in this hobby. You are a hobbyist right? Don't you take a potential risk with every provider you see? How many of these providers go BB with other men that you are unaware of? Maybe they have cheating boyfriends, or husbands. Maybe there has has been a sexual assault in there past, that you have no clue about. Do you perform or receive BB oral services? Because HSV1 and HSV2 can be shared both ways and 90% of people NEVER know they have it. There are a lot of possibilities out there. I can guarantee you that both providers are smart women, and have been tested, and treated for any possibilities. When was the last time you were tested?Wait a sec. I NEVER used the term "blacklisted." I made a request for information, which was denied by the poster suggesting that he had it. I saw a similar request on a another post (not sure who / when) , and that post also went unanswered, at least on the public forum. I have since dropped the subject and have not asked again.
I posted that in the immediate aftermath of the original FF post. I didn't know that things would go this long, with so many subsequent posts, so many opinions, so much discussion, yet little clarification or explanation. And without hearing from FF himself.
As Golfcart put is, this is a train wreck. And I am inclined to agree with him, that any explanation at this point, if there is ever going to be one, would be like the Warren Commission Report. I don't think we will ever know what REALLY happened. And honestly, I am fine with that.
As you put it, Sensory, there are a lot of possibilities out there, and so little of it is known.
This is about the betrayal of trust behind closed doors. That violation is something many hobbyists need to be made to see. It's gratifying that there's been a universal condemnation of the offender which FF was portraying. But the added risk of social disease (not to mention, as here, the possible emotional toll on a lot of people) does not wholly separate this sort of act from all sorts of boorish (or thuggish) behavior, from short envelopes to attempts to get what is clearly refused.I have been wanting to respond to FF's post and the subsequent discussion on many levels but this point says it well for me. These wonderful angels share their lovely gifts with our fat asses and deserve to be able to trust us. If they say stop or no then it's time to stop period. Any other response is unacceptable and deserve rousing condemnation from all hobbyists.
I have the feeling FF is just trying to raise an eyebrow or two.
I have the feeling FF is just trying to raise an eyebrow or two.I disagree. I've read the post a few times, and I still think he was writing about himself and his experience. I posted earlier about this and a friend of his pm'd me, saying he was writing about someone else. Sorry, man. Not buying it. The most telling thing at this point is that FF hasn't posted anything in way of additional explanation and it's been two days since this all started.
At this point, he should close his account and move on. I don't want to hear from him anymore and I'm sure many people feel the same way.
This deserves castration! She obviously said NO.
I disagree. I've read the post a few times, and I still think he was writing about himself and his experience. I posted earlier about this and a friend of his pm'd me, saying he was writing about someone else. Sorry, man. Not buying it. The most telling thing at this point is that FF hasn't posted anything in way of additional explanation and it's been two days since this all started.
At this point, he should close his account and move on. I don't want to hear from him anymore and I'm sure many people feel the same way.
My last post was deleted by Jackson for being argumentative, but my point may have been mistaken. I wasn't arguing.
I'm saying those who know FF know how he posts. Frequently in metaphores and in 3rd person. Those that say they know him because they've read his reports for years only have his written word by which to judge him. So they do and I don't blame them for that.
But those of us who know him on a different level. Bothered to meet, share fun times, talk and travel with him. Have to judge him differently. While nobody knows what anyone may be capabale of doing, he siply would not THINK that way, and certainly would not write and complain to the board about it publicly.
Yup, I know what you're thinking. You'll see her ad on the "E" and say "daaaayum!" Yes, that's her in the pic and yes she's Asian, but avoid at all cost. She's non-GFE; doesn't even suck face and can't touch the vijay-jay. She's a chick I know from Cincy and she's visiting here this week. She used to go by AsianSensationTai, and you don't have to be Captain Obvious to figure out the name-change. She was great 18 months. 2 years ago, then bought a new car and changed all the rules. If you want to see someone hot, text the Ab-ster (abbyamour. Com). Not trying to "pimp" the best services in town, just trying to steer you in the right direction. And, as always, keeping it real.
Play safe,
BF Deal
At this point, he should close his account and move on. I don't want to hear from him anymore and I'm sure many people feel the same way.Maybe your the one should move on.
The actions did happen to one provider that we all know. BUT IT WAS NOT FF THAT WAS THE OFFENDER. That is for certain, I do know that for sure. Why he chose to express himself that way. Maybe to get the rat to show himself.How do you KNOW it was not FF as the offender. He said it was him in his orig post. Are you saying that he fabricated the story? If so, there is something wrong with that too; at the very least a lapse in good judgment to even present the scenario as he has. Truth or fabricated story, it says something about FF to me. If fabricated it is very narcisistic to say the least.
Maybe your the one should move on.This whole thread is like FF has taken a handful of nuts and bolts and hurled them into a running fan blade with a crowd of people standing around it. Hell yes it is going to create many opinions and some hard feelings. This whole thing is asinine.
I'm not sure which would be worse; if the orig post is true OR if this has been posted the way it was in an attempt to "out somone else" or manufactured to get a mashalled response. Either way sucks big time and it is plainly irresponsible and in poor judgment. And that you wish to defend? Hmmm.
Sometime soon there will be an explanation. Will it be truth or more fiction? One of FF's buddies will tell us what to believe here. R-I-G-H-T. Next!
Sensorysrprise
05-16-11, 09:58
Maybe your the one should move on.I can't take this anymore. I know for a fact FF is NOT guilty of this act. I can't say EXACTLY why he posted this topic in the 1st person, except that maybe it was to see how the topic should be treated. Maybe to see what other hobbyists beliefs are on the subject. I think everyone agrees that the acts portrayed in FF's post were not acceptable. That it's not ok to treat a provider in this manner. That no matter who you are, or how senior of a member, or seasoned in the hobby. It's just NOT cool. I find it honorable that so many men stood up, and spoke about the post in question. That regardless of what they thought they knew about FF, they also knew this kind of post was extremely inappropriate and needed to be addressed. I also understand those that know FF, and caught on to his underlying remarks, that made also hinted this was not FF himself that believed it was acceptable. I think it's obvious that this topic weighs so heavy with FF for him to post this. To go SO FAR as to destroy his reputation in this hobby, just to make a point. Was it the absolute best way for him to approach this subject? No. But I don't think he has a large concern for his reputation on this board. I think his concern is with the well being of the lovely ladies that many of you hobbyists have grown to love as individuals. Many have developed friendships in this hobby, that go beyond the walls of a bedroom.
P. S.
Nothing personal BleuCheese. I was just using your post as an example, and maybe that was unfair. Thank you for handling it in such a mature manner. I am not here to personally attack anyone. Big hugs, (BleuCheese)
I disagree. I've read the post a few times, and I still think he was writing about himself and his experience. I posted earlier about this and a friend of his pm'd me, saying he was writing about someone else. Sorry, man. Not buying it. The most telling thing at this point is that FF hasn't posted anything in way of additional explanation and it's been two days since this all started.
At this point, he should close his account and move on. I don't want to hear from him anymore and I'm sure many people feel the same way. Well I don't feel that way FF's reports have always intrigued and humored me. It's just been a couple days, I'm not on here everyday, I guess it's because I have a life outside of mongering. Maybe FF does to.
I guess it's because I have a life outside of mongering. You have my sympathies.
Illiniman11
05-16-11, 14:59
At this point, he should close his account and move on. I don't want to hear from him anymore and I'm sure many people feel the same way.I also know for a fact that it was not Freckle Freak but he posted to highlight a violent problem. It is easy to attack most of the providers as they trust sometimes too much and are an easy target. IMHO, FF took a great risk to bring a serious issue to light. Thanks FF for making people aware of this issue.
Yup, I know what you're thinking. You'll see her ad on the "E" and say "daaaayum!" Yes, that's her in the pic and yes she's Asian, but avoid at all cost. She's non-GFE; doesn't even suck face and can't touch the vijay-jay. She's a chick I know from Cincy and she's visiting here this week. She used to go by AsianSensationTai, and you don't have to be Captain Obvious to figure out the name-change. She was great 18 months. 2 years ago, then bought a new car and changed all the rules. If you want to see someone hot, text the Ab-ster (abbyamour. Com). Not trying to "pimp" the best services in town, just trying to steer you in the right direction. And, as always, keeping it real.
Play safe,
BF DealYup, that's about what I said! Waiting for her to show up, just about to pull the trigger, but something was nagging at me. Decided to check here and. There was your post. Thanks for the straight post!
It hurt though. I LOVE asian women. It's why (ok, mostly why) I started this hobby long, long, ago, and they're just so damn hard to find in indy.
Thanks again,
Cleanfun4
You have my sympathies.I didn't say I had much of a life.
[QUOTE=Varoom; 1194688]How do you KNOW it was not FF as the offender.
Comming from both him and her. Now enough of this fkin shit!
TryinAgain2
05-16-11, 17:08
I just got on here after several days, and WHAM! What a firestorm. But for good reason, as several have pointed out.
First that the behavior in the Freak for Freckles' report is completely unacceptable, and not only to the women concerned, but even to the rest of us mongers. Only a true asshole / rapist / bastard would treat any woman that way and a prick like this on the loose will make things sticky / difficult / dangerous for all of us.
Second, and this is only my opinion, FF is speaking not of his own behavior here, but of someone else's. I feel this way, because although I've never met him, his track record for defending women on this board is well proven. Even to the point of being an ass to other mongers at times. The attitude in his story is completely opposite to any and every other post under his name. I just can't see it coming from him in any other way than sarcasm to prove a point, to out another monger (in this case, I feel appropriately) or to simply stir the discussion for what he's seen as a problem. I agree it is a problem and the discussion is worthwhile.
Now for the "Enough of this shit" attitude, I can agree with that also. It's time for FF to speak up, out the monger in question so no more women are referred to the guy and clear up his own name concerning this. But until he does so, and it's only his choice to make, I think the subject is finished. To a man, I don't see any support for this behavior, so his point was made and I don't see any value in continuing it. Let's move on about the stated business of the thread and take the lessons therein to heart.
TA2
How do you KNOW it was not FF as the offender.
Comming from both him and her. Now enough of this fkin shit! That doesn't work. FF posted what he has done and that is good enough for me.
Now for the "Enough of this shit" attitude, I can agree with that also. It's time for FF to speak up, TA2.
(edit delete)That doesn't work. FF posted what he has done and that is good enough for me.
If the post wasn't credible but made as it was, that is merely playing games with everyone who reads this forum. Just as bad if not worse than if the post is truthful. Now that would be a bunch of fkin shit! If this is the case he could have found another way to handle this matter instead of jacking with everyone here. And people are trying to defend this approach as somehow being valiant? It is fkin IDIOTIC my friends.
At the very moment of this post, there are 311 members and 534 guests logged on and / or reading the forum. And what you are saying is, all 850 or so folks here are supposed to JUST KNOW that the orig post wasn't FF because a handful of his friends say so. Frankly folks I am more pissed that it probably isn't him, but yet he has chosen this cheesy ass way of expressing this thing and getting everyone all revved up as if he did the deed; (very poor taste). Either way it STINKS. Grrrrrr.
Any locals ever drive up to Gary for gang bang night?
Check out the recent postings for NW Indiana.
I have been waiting for this to run for a while and to see where it went, let it run it's course. It wasn't my place to jump in as much as I have wanted to because I understand what was happening, and as many good and bad points that the discussion has brought out were really the intended result, though sadly at the expense of someone's personal pain. The parable that started all of this was an allegory, based in fact, with some license taken, like the working girl comment at the end of the post, sarcasm and the antithesis of what FF believes, in order to drive home his point with a hard effect. The story though altered is sadly true, just like a year ago when a local provider was lured to a residential outcall, then outnumbered and abused, tied / held down and burned with cigarettes, the perpetrators assuming that a 'working girl' couldn't cause them any problems. So how do I know that it is factual but allegorical, that FF was not the culprit? I know because I was sitting having lunch with him and a friend and favorite local provider when he got the call from the victim, a good friend of his, and to a lesser degree mine, someone who skipped lunch with us to take a date. So why the post, because it was killing him to not be able to do anything, to help in any way, to respond in some way. I must admit that this post and how he did it surprised me, I expected him to take up the method put forth by our good buddy Two Nutts, who is also a friend of the victim, and grab some weapons and go hobbiest hunting, or to at least bring the perpetrator into the fray. He had to take some kind of action, and he chose a calmer, more measured and thoughtful way to do it. To steal a line from Rachael Dawes, and I paraphrase- It is not what is inside of us, but rather the actions that we take that define who we are as a person. I believe he is not done, but that most of his actions will never see the light of day, this will be the only public airing. He knew before he did it that he risked his future with both providers and hobbiests alike if it backfired, but if you think that caused him a second thought then you really don't get him at all.
One of the major points he wanted to make was the issue that we as men may view ourselves as clean, safe for bareback fun, but that basic tests and inspections don't speak to the hidden nasties that we carry, such as HPV and chlamydia, that we can secretly pass to unsuspecting partners, paid or otherwise, who then pass it to a another partner who unwittingly takes it home to give to someone who now has been put at a great health risk without ever having had the chance to protect themselves, or to at least have the option to chose what and how much risk they might assume. I think from the discussions he has brought out thought provoking comments on that along with the other issues here, and though he can't change what has happened, he can create an atmosphere that may help keep it from happening again; even if only once it will be a good thing.
So did what happen rise to the level of rape? Criminally, the case could be easily made, emotionally, well there is no doubt there. Yes there were only two people actually in that room, one sees what happened as an act of sexual congress getting carried away and going regrettably too far but with the acquiescence of the victim, the other sees it as violation and emotional trauma, and the mind makes rationalizations and tries to correlate the feelings and emotions with facts and makes the allowances it needs to, to either carry on or not. This can be a very dangerous game that we play here, each instance of two people together sexually is totally an island of experience, and what one provider / partner may consider acceptable behavior and playfulness, may be considered by the next partner to be violent and degrading, it is a slippery slope and something every date has to play out, and we must always remember to be aware of. Could she have kicked and screamed and perhaps changed the course of action? Perhaps, but in no way does that justify or condone what happened, make no mistake, that was wrong no matter what level of degrees one might try to apply to it. This was how she made her living, what would bad reviews do her if she didn't quit protesting, could she still get work, would her reputation be tarnished as a 'good'provider, and like sexual harassment in the workplace, one may accept what they feel to be their fate in order to preserve their own well being, but it is morally and legally wrong. End of story.
So what we have in the end is a very sad story. We have a good person who is emotionally distraught, unable to work, seeking counseling and help, trying to heal and put it all behind them. We have a hobbiest who did not intend the grief he has caused but is having to deal with the consequences of his actions. It doesn't matter who it is, I firmly believe that the issues are the same no matter which provider it might have happened to. I can not see any reason that names ever need be named here or anywhere, it serves no point, exactly why FF's allegorical story provides us all we need to think and discuss the situation. There is no happy ending here, there is tragedy delivered upon both the victim and the perpetrator in some ways.
I was going to say perhaps it was time to move on, take something from all of this and hope that we are more aware and thoughtful of our actions, that something learned here is the best that can be hoped for. But maybe people aren't done, not my place to say. FF was willing to take all the heat in order to protect the innocent, but I felt I needed to weigh in because I fear the heat was starting to have an opposite effect, and that would only make a bad situation worse. As in any story there is so much that hasn't been put out there, from both sides of the story, and layers and tendrils that reach far and wide in the 'hobby', but this was never intended to be a case study, just a seemingly simple event that took a tragic turn and morphed into something bigger than imagined.
TA2- good points but not sure I agree with the outing of the monger in a totally public forum for lots of reasons.
TN-nothing like a good friend, and tough to hold back when you know the truth, love ya buddy.
SS-beautiful, brilliant, feisty, fierce in so many good ways, no wonder I like you so very much.
Henley- appreciate your input and thought, you weren't off base in your thinking, just in their direction because you couldn't have known any better.
AA-another beautiful one, and always like your input, and rest assured your advice had already been taken before you spoke it.
BB-perhaps my favorite poster these days, always well thought out and intelligent and well spoken.
What, Scott and Braz- all good points and well taken.
Obama- welcome to the new guy, takes balls to throw in on something this heavy when you are new.
Russ- ditto.
Davidoc- like the way you think.
GC- you know I respect you and you made great points-
Ipolis, Indyjohn, BC- all good discussion, a lot of people fell for the first person narrative of FF apparently, surprising because he isn't all that good at writing so I am a little disappointed in you.LOL.
NG_ you saw through it, but there was never anything funny about it- wish it had been a joke.
WC- as usual friend you are always on top of it.
Lion- my good friend I know it must have seemed confusing at first-sometimes this all seems too much doesn't it.
Slutcake-you would get along well with TN in terms of temperment, and by the way, no one ever said it was a senior member here, have to look but pretty sure it isn't true.
Sure I missed a few, sorry, but I must say that I was really glad to have seen all the input and even more glad to see that it was to a man, and woman, that everyone came down on the right side of the line.
Over the past couple of weeks I've had the opportunity to have some pretty good dreams of providers I had not met before. I tend to stick to a few regulars. I had the chance to meet Sensory Surprise and partake of the famed nuru massage. The nuru massage was an interesting experience and something most should try at least once. I'm not sure if it was my thing but I thoroughly enjoyed meeting Sensory. She is very intelligent and very pleasant to spend some time with.
Last week I finally met Teresa (thanks by the way to those that passed along her contact info). I spent an entire afternoon with Teresa and Lacy. All I really need to say about that experience is WOW!
Before I pick up my guitar and lead us all in a few choruses of Kumbaya, I want to mention a couple things that bother me.
First, I appreciate what emotional strain people are under, and I understand what Freckle Freak was trying to do. I'm not convinced it was fair or proper to do it that way, if I can be forgiven those quaint notions. I was educated in a previous century.
Let's begin with the idea he was "taking the heat". That seems pre-constructed. The immediate reaction wasn't condemnation, but that he had to be joking, or his account had been hacked, or he'd taken leave of his senses and was writing gibberish. It really wasn't until later, when he failed to reappear and defend himself one way or the other, that some people began accusing him. So the concept faltered right out of the gate. FF's reputation proceeded him here, as he should have expected.
Second, bringing this up to an unsuspecting group of people one has no intention of ever filling in completely is ill-considered. It's like the old days, when the dirty parts of books were translated into Latin so only the educated could whack off to 'them. People were entirely within their rights to ask "Who was it?" What else should have been expected?"Who was it?" can make a big difference in our attitudes. If this was a provider known for crying wolf it's a different situation than if it's someone known for trying to bareback every woman he meets. Those of us on the outside had no way of knowing; a week on and we still don't. We were just asked to act as a Greek chorus while FF rendered the verdict. I understand that there are watertight reasons for not revealing names. That should have been the reason to post hypothetically, not realistically.
And yet, everyone in the know admits only two people know what happened. Maybe FF gave an accurate portrayal of some private communication he had. If so then this really isn't a he said / she said deal. Juries convict on less.
I'm not trying to be harsh. I think FF did what was in his heart under very stressful conditions. But under very stressful conditions it's often good to think more than twice. Everyone here who spoke spoke against rape. If that comes as a surprise the world is a lot worse off than even I imagine it.
Look, dammit: we're the people society scorns. Society makes all of us outsiders for not condemning commercial sex, then we turn around and make it about whispered confidences and notes passed at school and the cool kids table. We should know better. The attitude should not be tolerated, let alone the act. This is no place for misogyny, but misogyny runs unchecked. Providers should not be, or feel, powerless, because it is in everyone's interest that they don't. No one should be pressured by fear of bad reviews, or bad word of mouth from self-appointed insiders, but, again, that attitude is everywhere among providers. And understandably so. They have little incentive to rock the boat. It's up to us to renounce it, and to renounce (by name) anyone who refuses to do so.
TryinAgain2
05-17-11, 08:38
I just got word that an ATF of mine may be visiting us next week. YummyBunny has been in Detroit and emailed me about her plans. It's up in the air for now, but she's going to try to register here and let us know in the classifieds forum. She'll try to register YummyBunny, but she also advertises on BP and eros under diamond22, or diamond dozen.
I let her know I probably won't be in town next week to see her (very depressing) , but that if she advertises here, why'all will keep her busy. Very GFE w / multiples allowed, though everything's covered. You'll hardly notice the cover, though. She's that good orally, imo. Total spinner, under 5', less than 100lbs, and no body fat whatsoever. Gorgeous latina face too, along with a great attitude and personality. Treat her right!
TA2
Being an older guy contacted this lady about two weeks ago and had the opportunity to meet her. She is a very nice lady but is a bit rushed. I would put her looks about a 5, and her service at a 6. She is not a hard body but not flabby either. She isn't a good kisser but has nice hands and knows how to use them. Didn't go the french route as she seemed to want to get to it which we did. CFS that was okay but very mechanical. She goes by Mature Woman on BP is supposedly 39 but my guess is 5-10 years older. Room was nice but won't see her again. Like anything else, YMMV
Indyjim1970
05-17-11, 10:27
I just got word that an ATF of mine may be visiting us next week. YummyBunny has been in Detroit and emailed me about her plans. It's up in the air for now, but she's going to try to register here and let us know in the classifieds forum. She'll try to register YummyBunny, but she also advertises on BP and eros under diamond22, or diamond dozen.
I let her know I probably won't be in town next week to see her (very depressing) , but that if she advertises here, why'all will keep her busy. Very GFE w / multiples allowed, though everything's covered. You'll hardly notice the cover, though. She's that good orally, imo. Total spinner, under 5', less than 100lbs, and no body fat whatsoever. Gorgeous latina face too, along with a great attitude and personality. Treat her right!
TA2I was wondering if she would ever come back to Indy.
Before I pick up my guitar and lead us all in a few choruses of Kumbaya, I want to mention a couple things that bother me.
First, I appreciate what emotional strain people are under, and I understand what Freckle Freak was trying to do. I'm not convinced it was fair or proper to do it that way, if I can be forgiven those quaint notions. I was educated in a previous century.
Let's begin with the idea he was "taking the heat". That seems pre-constructed. The immediate reaction wasn't condemnation, but that he had to be joking, or his account had been hacked, or he'd taken leave of his senses and was writing gibberish. It really wasn't until later, when he failed to reappear and defend himself one way or the other, that some people began accusing him. So the concept faltered right out of the gate. FF's reputation proceeded him here, as he should have expected.
Second, bringing this up to an unsuspecting group of people one has no intention of ever filling in completely is ill-considered. It's like the old days, when the dirty parts of books were translated into Latin so only the educated could whack off to 'them. People were entirely within their rights to ask "Who was it?" What else should have been expected?"Who was it?" can make a big difference in our attitudes. If this was a provider known for crying wolf it's a different situation than if it's someone known for trying to bareback every woman he meets. Those of us on the outside had no way of knowing; a week on and we still don't. We were just asked to act as a Greek chorus while FF rendered the verdict. I understand that there are watertight reasons for not revealing names. That should have been the reason to post hypothetically, not realistically.
And yet, everyone in the know admits only two people know what happened. Maybe FF gave an accurate portrayal of some private communication he had. If so then this really isn't a he said / she said deal. Juries convict on less.
I'm not trying to be harsh. I think FF did what was in his heart under very stressful conditions. But under very stressful conditions it's often good to think more than twice. Everyone here who spoke spoke against rape. If that comes as a surprise the world is a lot worse off than even I imagine it.
Look, dammit: we're the people society scorns. Society makes all of us outsiders for not condemning commercial sex, then we turn around and make it about whispered confidences and notes passed at school and the cool kids table. We should know better. The attitude should not be tolerated, let alone the act. This is no place for misogyny, but misogyny runs unchecked. Providers should not be, or feel, powerless, because it is in everyone's interest that they don't. No one should be pressured by fear of bad reviews, or bad word of mouth from self-appointed insiders, but, again, that attitude is everywhere among providers. And understandably so. They have little incentive to rock the boat. It's up to us to renounce it, and to renounce (by name) anyone who refuses to do so. I will always miss Buster and Long Richard and TBird and Greys posts, but this is my current favorite read; thoughtful and considered, doesn't matter if opinions differ, good things to think about. Fogelberg and Weissberg maybe.
I just got word that an ATF of mine may be visiting us next week. YummyBunny has been in Detroit and emailed me about her plans. It's up in the air for now, but she's going to try to register here and let us know in the classifieds forum. She'll try to register YummyBunny, but she also advertises on BP and eros under diamond22, or diamond dozen.
I let her know I probably won't be in town next week to see her (very depressing) , but that if she advertises here, why'all will keep her busy. Very GFE w / multiples allowed, though everything's covered. You'll hardly notice the cover, though. She's that good orally, imo. Total spinner, under 5', less than 100lbs, and no body fat whatsoever. Gorgeous latina face too, along with a great attitude and personality. Treat her right!
TA2Always a personal fave, seen her on a few different visits and has never failed to impress.
I'm a very infrequent poster and slightly less infrequent reader. Seeing the residue of the storm on page 1, I flipped back a few and read the initial FF post.
My two cents? It reads like allegory. Don't know FF from Adam, but the tone is one called largesse confession wherein the confessor imparts not only too much information but also self incriminating motive. Its a foil. Kind of like the end of a Scooby Doo show. All its missing is the "And I woulda gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those darn kids!"
So, why does a person write such a satire? The same reason anyone has ever written satire, to mock and inform in the cruelest way possible. Someone who actually did this act is squirming to high hell. In turn, all of you have spent a nice amount of time thinking interesting thoughts.
Unintended (maybe) Outcomes?
1) The community has been forced to stomp on the paper tiger. That being said, by doing so, you verbally committed yourselves to a safe, respectable behavior. Next time the bareback opportunity presents itself, you'll think just THAT much harder before giving in to the little head. (positive)
2) A little bit of introspection. I mean, after all, if this happened. If this COULD happen, then why aren't we all being more careful and being tested more frequently and. And. You get the idea. (positive)
3) A little bit of deflation. We all got called Knights of the Roundtable. That one made me giggle the most. (positive)
4) Feathers were ruffled. Always awesome. Its like he just puked in the theater from the balcony and is now just sitting back to enjoy the show. (positive)
In summation. Whether you agree with me that he wrote this satirically or not, it doesn't matter. The end result is that Indy is perhaps a little safer, a little more respectful, and a little bit more informed than it was before he wrote the post.
I'm ok with that.
Unless he actually did it, in which case I want him hung ass down over a pit of Mike Vick's best canine athletes.
Just sayin.
I'm a very infrequent poster and slightly less infrequent reader. Seeing the residue of the storm on page 1, I flipped back a few and read the initial FF post.
My two cents? It reads like allegory. Don't know FF from Adam, but the tone is one called largesse confession wherein the confessor imparts not only too much information but also self incriminating motive. Its a foil. Kind of like the end of a Scooby Doo show. All its missing is the "And I woulda gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those darn kids!"
So, why does a person write such a satire? The same reason anyone has ever written satire, to mock and inform in the cruelest way possible. Someone who actually did this act is squirming to high hell. In turn, all of you have spent a nice amount of time thinking interesting thoughts.
Unintended (maybe) Outcomes?
1) The community has been forced to stomp on the paper tiger. That being said, by doing so, you verbally committed yourselves to a safe, respectable behavior. Next time the bareback opportunity presents itself, you'll think just THAT much harder before giving in to the little head. (positive)
2) A little bit of introspection. I mean, after all, if this happened. If this COULD happen, then why aren't we all being more careful and being tested more frequently and. And. You get the idea. (positive)
3) A little bit of deflation. We all got called Knights of the Roundtable. That one made me giggle the most. (positive)
4) Feathers were ruffled. Always awesome. Its like he just puked in the theater from the balcony and is now just sitting back to enjoy the show. (positive)
In summation. Whether you agree with me that he wrote this satirically or not, it doesn't matter. The end result is that Indy is perhaps a little safer, a little more respectful, and a little bit more informed than it was before he wrote the post.
I'm ok with that.
Unless he actually did it, in which case I want him hung ass down over a pit of Mike Vick's best canine athletes.
Just sayin. Yeah, and you just said it all-sweet
Freckle Freak
05-17-11, 13:32
I go on vacation for a week and see what happens. Funny comment? Maybe yes, definitely no to many others. I thought it was funny because humor has not been in my life much the past two weeks. First off I love you Sensory your posts with or without my defense were perfect. And thank you for all the advice over the past week. Ilapp, B Beal and somewhat AA all brought out what I wanted discussed. Trust behind closed doors. Hobbyists taking and having control and putting their selfish interests first without regard to the providers. The disease factor and how unpredictable and hidden it can be.
If I had told the story, not in the first person, everyone would have read it the manner of, She said, He said. Everyone would PM me asking 'who was it'. It's not important 'who' but that it happened. I am tired of people who sit back and watch dogs get kicked, children abused and women attacked and all that's said is 'I don't want to get involved. ' It's not my problem. ' I GOT involved. It may not have been the best way, the right way, the wrong way, but I got involved. If you don't like it, tough shit! (Sorry 2N couldn't control myself). This happened and it doesn't make any difference exactly how or why. A wonderful provider was forced to have BB sex without her consent, and it doesn't make a hill of beans whether it was by physical force or psychological force. She didn't want it, it happened and it has caused a very beautiful spirit a great deal of pain.
The one thing nobody brought up is the one simple question that the hobbyist could have asked at the moment the line was crossed, purposefully or accidently – 'You know I don't have a cover on would you prefer that I use one? ' He was in control. Once both sets of clothes come off, hobbyists are in control. This one simple question could have changed the course of this meeting and set the stage for mutual consent or at least clarified what each individual wanted.
Ilapp you know I didn't care about my reputation. My reputation is insignificant to what happened and the discussion that took place on many levels. You're right, my writing sucks and I should have let you make the first post, but I couldn't let anyone else do it. I have spent hours with the provider and she is doing better. I have talked to the hobbyist and he seems regretful yet I have HEARD, no I don't know for a fact, how he has psychologically twisted other providers into providing the same type of service. Pattern makes this one a problem. I think he wanted to see what happened once he was inside. Would she or wouldn't she? Remember her first clue was cover in hand and saying 'Let's put this on and see how you like it inside' I think it's time for him to retire.
Lastly, thank all of those of you who DID think it was me and wanted my ass in a sling. It's important that these LADIES, not wh*res, god I hate that word for a woman, were defended. Now let's get on with business and the purpose of this board.
FF.
PS. Anyone seen any really nice freckles out there lately. I need some!
Last week I finally met Teresa (thanks by the way to those that passed along her contact info). I spent an entire afternoon with Teresa and Lacy. All I really need to say about that experience is WOW! [/QUOTE]
BigBad, heard about your experience from my ATF (Ms T) and I know I can't keep up with both so I will see them separetly. Did see teresa yesterday and holy cow it was awesome. Finally lost my mediterranean virginity (ah, hers not mine folks). But I did see her scary monster that some of you enjoy and continue to keep it at least an arm's length away. She has become an expert on this practice because I thought I was hurting her but she kept encouraging the pace and force. Hot damn seeing her perfect rear end slam back at me was incredible. I have never done this before and I felt like a school boy (although almost 50) being taught by the hot young teacher. I am hooked!
I will see Lacey this week (first time) and will report my findings. Who would have thought that dreaming would be so wonderful at this age?
PS. Anyone seen any really nice freckles out there lately. I need some!I'll help ya find some in a couple weeks. Yes damn it, I'll call you first this time!
IIfThe one thing nobody brought up is the one simple question that the hobbyist could have asked at the moment the line was crossed, purposefully or accidently – 'You know I don't have a cover on would you prefer that I use one? '
Now let's get on with business and the purpose of this board. There was no need to bring this up. Your post said " As she straddled me, her other lips caressed my member. I thought for a moment it would go in. I commented on how good that felt and would she like to find out what it would feel like inside. She moaned and said 'Why don't we try it with one of these' as she picked up a cover. I could tell she wanted it and I was hot to trot. I grabbed her by the waist and flipped her over on her back. She looked so hot. Playfully I held her arms above her head, the cover still in her hand. Then it just sort of happened, I slid into her, she was so wet. She said 'No, I don't do it that way'."
She requested the cover and said no to BB. He had no need to ask, he had already been told.
And not to disparage the provider, but, if this incident has had such a damaging affect on her she should find another source of income. This business is not for the meek.
And not to disparage you, but if you were concerned about the "purpose of this board" you would not have ever made the original post in the first place. It had nothing to do with the business of this board, it solved nothing and wasted a lot of space.
If only that were true.
I go on vacation for a week and see what happens.Yeah, except your acct said you were checking in daily to observe the firestorm. You seemed to be reading the activity as it unfolded; (more sickness to then fain you weren't here; duh). Too bad each screen shot wasn't saved that showed your activity during your vacation. But I suppose that info is available.
but if you were concerned about the "purpose of this board" you would not have ever made the original post in the first place. It had nothing to do with the business of this board, it solved nothing and wasted a lot of space.AAA f*ckin-men to that one. A BIG nothing, other than a display of some very poor decision making skills.
And extremely well-written. Now hoist upon us the finest meats and cheeses for my men! That's Knights-at-the-Roundtable speak.
BFDeal
I'm a very infrequent poster and slightly less infrequent reader. Seeing the residue of the storm on page 1, I flipped back a few and read the initial FF post.
My two cents? It reads like allegory. Don't know FF from Adam, but the tone is one called largesse confession wherein the confessor imparts not only too much information but also self incriminating motive. Its a foil. Kind of like the end of a Scooby Doo show. All its missing is the "And I woulda gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those darn kids!"
So, why does a person write such a satire? The same reason anyone has ever written satire, to mock and inform in the cruelest way possible. Someone who actually did this act is squirming to high hell. In turn, all of you have spent a nice amount of time thinking interesting thoughts.
Unintended (maybe) Outcomes?
1) The community has been forced to stomp on the paper tiger. That being said, by doing so, you verbally committed yourselves to a safe, respectable behavior. Next time the bareback opportunity presents itself, you'll think just THAT much harder before giving in to the little head. (positive)
2) A little bit of introspection. I mean, after all, if this happened. If this COULD happen, then why aren't we all being more careful and being tested more frequently and. And. You get the idea. (positive)
3) A little bit of deflation. We all got called Knights of the Roundtable. That one made me giggle the most. (positive)
4) Feathers were ruffled. Always awesome. Its like he just puked in the theater from the balcony and is now just sitting back to enjoy the show. (positive)
In summation. Whether you agree with me that he wrote this satirically or not, it doesn't matter. The end result is that Indy is perhaps a little safer, a little more respectful, and a little bit more informed than it was before he wrote the post.
I'm ok with that.
Unless he actually did it, in which case I want him hung ass down over a pit of Mike Vick's best canine athletes.
Just sayin.
Maybe your the one should move on.Two Nutts, grab a tissue.
I now believe that FF did not bb a provider against her will. I do believe that FF was a complete fool when he put that post up. To write it in first person and put it up in a place where hundreds of people that don't know you will read it is the definition of stupidity. And to add little flowery bits that define your writing (Knights of the round table, the freckle reference) just adds to your idiocy.
I do want to echo Varoom and Chelli as well. You were logging into your account every day between your initial post and the one you thru up today. And I'm sure your little pals were calling you. You knew about the uproar you caused, but did nothing for days to clear it up. Why didn't you? Were you getting your jollies by keeping silent?
And as Chelli said, you added nothing to this board with your stunt. If you think we, as a group, need to be reminded that no means no, go screw. And if you think the few on this board that may try something like that will mend their ways after reading your post, then you truly do have too high an opinion of yourself. Those kind of predators won't be moved by what you write.
TryinAgain2
05-17-11, 21:14
Oh yeah- back to business-great idea.
Always a personal fave, seen her on a few different visits and has never failed to impress. I was going to wait to let her make the announcement herself, but figured the board needed a lift right about now to allow us time to take out the garbage of the last few days. It was starting to smell in here.
TA2
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
Thanks
Davidonecall
05-17-11, 22:07
I go on vacation for a week and see what happens. Funny comment? Maybe yes, definitely no to many others. I thought it was funny because humor has not been in my life much the past two weeks. First off I love you Sensory your posts with or without my defense were perfect. And thank you for all the advice over the past week. Ilapp, B Beal and somewhat AA all brought out what I wanted discussed. Trust behind closed doors. Hobbyists taking and having control and putting their selfish interests first without regard to the providers. The disease factor and how unpredictable and hidden it can be.
If I had told the story, not in the first person, everyone would have read it the manner of, She said, He said. Everyone would PM me asking 'who was it'. It's not important 'who' but that it happened. I am tired of people who sit back and watch dogs get kicked, children abused and women attacked and all that's said is 'I don't want to get involved. ' It's not my problem. ' I GOT involved. It may not have been the best way, the right way, the wrong way, but I got involved. If you don't like it, tough shit! (Sorry 2N couldn't control myself). This happened and it doesn't make any difference exactly how or why. A wonderful provider was forced to have BB sex without her consent, and it doesn't make a hill of beans whether it was by physical force or psychological force. She didn't want it, it happened and it has caused a very beautiful spirit a great deal of pain.
The one thing nobody brought up is the one simple question that the hobbyist could have asked at the moment the line was crossed, purposefully or accidently – 'You know I don't have a cover on would you prefer that I use one? ' He was in control. Once both sets of clothes come off, hobbyists are in control. This one simple question could have changed the course of this meeting and set the stage for mutual consent or at least clarified what each individual wanted.
Ilapp you know I didn't care about my reputation. My reputation is insignificant to what happened and the discussion that took place on many levels. You're right, my writing sucks and I should have let you make the first post, but I couldn't let anyone else do it. I have spent hours with the provider and she is doing better. I have talked to the hobbyist and he seems regretful yet I have HEARD, no I don't know for a fact, how he has psychologically twisted other providers into providing the same type of service. Pattern makes this one a problem. I think he wanted to see what happened once he was inside. Would she or wouldn't she? Remember her first clue was cover in hand and saying 'Let's put this on and see how you like it inside' I think it's time for him to retire.
Lastly, thank all of those of you who DID think it was me and wanted my ass in a sling. It's important that these LADIES, not wh*res, god I hate that word for a woman, were defended. Now let's get on with business and the purpose of this board.
FF.
PS. Anyone seen any really nice freckles out there lately. I need some! It did serve the purpose, because it did get us going. Yes I know some provider will do BB for extra cash but you always have to wonder how many more have agreed to this and who are sick. When you have a provider that is clean and care about staying clean and also is trying to protect other hobbies they are keeper. I do feel bad for the provider and I hope she is doing better and stayed clean that is good. Send my best to her. Thanks FF for putting this in the open because it was a fire and it burn for days. Be safe. D. O. C.
Last week I finally met Teresa (thanks by the way to those that passed along her contact info). I spent an entire afternoon with Teresa and Lacy. All I really need to say about that experience is WOW! She may knock your hat off, but keep your coat on with Teresa. Last time I was with her, while that fabulous ass was slamming into me too, she turned around and said "Think how (mmm) good that would (you're so fabulous) feel without (ahh yes baby) the condom on." I pretended not to hear her twice and kept fucking til I got the hell out of there. I mentioned that to a friend and he said she had done the same to him!
Indeed you may be next. Phoney and dangerous, that's her.
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
ThanksHello, Darlings,
I am disheartened that for those of you who I've already met with and had a wonderful time with, would question my loyalty to the hobby.
I have never been arrested, detained or associated with the law.
I was wrongly accused 2 years ago by another provider who claimed I turned on her for a reference. This provider, regardless of her professionalism and reputation, planted a "seed" which turned into one heck of a "beanstalk". It's sad to know that one person can say something derogatory about another, even an untruth, and it is believed wholeheartedly, regardless of my spotless reputation.
I have been a provider for 9 years, I have been a true girlfriend and faithful friend to those who I've met. My professionalism, discretion and maturity go unmatched. I love my chosen profession and love to please.
Rumors are a disease, please don't get infected.
Kisses to all of you gentleman who have stood by me during my time of being victimized with the rumor parade.
I must also add, Sophie is a good friend of mine and safe to meet with as well, she has also suffered the same abuse as I have, in terms of false accusations.
Hugs and Kisses to you all. Macy.
www.hotmacy.escort-site.com
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
ThanksHello Darlings,
I am disheartened that for those of you who I've already met with and had a wonderful time with, would question my loyalty to the hobby.
I have never been arrested, detained or associated with the law.
I was wrongly accused 2 years ago by another provider who claimed I turned on her for a reference. This provider, regardless of her professionalism and reputation, planted a "seed" which turned into one heck of a "beanstalk". It's sad to know that one person can say something derogatory about another, even an untruth, and it is believed wholeheartedly, regardless of my spotless reputation.
I have been a provider for 9 years, I have been a true girlfriend and faithful friend to those who I've met. My professionalism, discretion and maturity go unmatched. I love my chosen profession and love to please.
Rumors are a disease, please don't get infected.
Kisses to all of you gentleman who have stood by me during my time of being victimized with the rumor parade.
I must also add, Sophie is a good friend of mine and safe to meet with as well, she has also suffered the same abuse as I have, in terms of false accusations.
Hugs and Kisses to you all. Macy
ButtRaider
05-18-11, 12:12
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
ThanksHi all! I haven't posted in a while. In fact I haven't been back to this board for a while. I thought I had better check it out with the recent changes to ecom. Some stuff and names are the same and some aren't. FF still hunting down freckles, etc. Haha.
Anyway, I feel compelled to stick up for these two beauties. I have seen both multiple times in the last year and a half. I have seen them apart and also in a couple duos. They are both gorgeous knockouts with their own lovely and desirable qualities and absolutely and completely safe and trustworthy. Let's stop the rumors and bad publicity.
As for the other girl- I have never met her.
BR
She may knock your hat off, but keep your coat on with Teresa. Last time I was with her, while that fabulous ass was slamming into me too, she turned around and said "Think how (mmm) good that would (you're so fabulous) feel without (ahh yes baby) the condom on." I pretended not to hear her twice and kept fucking til I got the hell out of there. I mentioned that to a friend and he said she had done the same to him!
Indeed you may be next. Phoney and dangerous, that's her. Wow! Hat did stay on. That was a rumour in the past though.
I saw a very recent review for Nikita on another site, however it lists a ******** site that looks like it uses content of her older posts. She has great reviews and is always described as a classy lady. I have never had the pleasure of her company and thought I had lost the chance. Would anybody care to collaborate if she is back in town?
For you edification and viewing pleasure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGpVcdqeS0
Now. Where was I? Oh yeah, looking for someone to come and Polish my lance.
I hear that coconut oil liberally applied with bountiful cleavage works. Ladies?
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
ThanksEasy. The people who feed you that crap.
She may knock your hat off, but keep your coat on with Teresa. Last time I was with her, while that fabulous ass was slamming into me too, she turned around and said "Think how (mmm) good that would (you're so fabulous) feel without (ahh yes baby) the condom on." I pretended not to hear her twice and kept fucking til I got the hell out of there. I mentioned that to a friend and he said she had done the same to him!
Indeed you may be next. Phoney and dangerous, that's her. I have seen her quite often over the past couple months and she has never done anything that would be considered unsafe. Also, I have seen how careful she is with regard to who she sees so I find this a little hard to believe, especially since you have no review history.
Illiniman11
05-18-11, 14:34
Just had a great early afternoon dream that I got to experience Abby again. She used to live here going to school at Purdue. She moved to CA to attend a different school and is back in the midwest for a couple of months. She is petite, in great shape (a runner) , and would like to see old friends as well as making new ones. Skills are awesome from GFE to whatever you would like. Toys optional.
You can PM me for contact details.
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
ThanksI know that it is HIGHLY unlikely MAcy or Sophie works with LEO. In fact I had a Convo with a provider and she told me me The Cops want Drug convictions. So if your your favorite lady is using Peruvian Nasal Fuel, LEO may be looking for a Bust. If not, you don't have much to worry about.
Lacy, first spa date (and not our last if I have anything to say about it) : she's not an insatiable woman, she's an erotic master, a genius, in the body of an insatiable woman. As much as anything I cherish the tender moments that pass between us when she's merciful enough to let me try to regain my oxygen. Just kissing her in that pool is on my permanent highlight reel.
Catelyne: was kind enough to admit me into her presence for the first time yesterday, and it's quite a presence. Cliché, yes, but I felt like we were old friends within the first thirty seconds, and she took care of me like a trusted client. A memorable first date, one of my best ever.
Elle: it was a scheduling quirk, not a death wish, that brought me to see her the day after Cate. She's just lovely, all over; sometimes I just want to stop what I'm doing and look at her. Every time I've seen her has been better than the previous one, and today was exponentially better, just a real trust and rapport developed over time.
Ms UTR: you the greatest, dar-lin'.
In fact I had a Convo with a provider and she told me me The Cops want Drug convictions. So? The cops always want drug convictions. Uncle Siggy's Peruvian Cocoa Powder, and other Schedule I or II substances, will get you a Class D or C felony conviction, depending on quantity, and that's whether you're a provider, a client, bank president, or Indian chief. It's entirely possible that Uncle Leo might be watching any individual or class in that pursuit, but if that's what you're doing you need to be aware of the law. You've probably already got the paranoia part covered.
But that's not what's being claimed here, as this shite turns up yet again, this time from some guy, or "guy", who's posted four times to the Louisville BP board before tuning up today to smear Indianapolis ladies. It's the idea-legal illiteracy-that Your Uncle is making Class A misdemeanor arrests, then "turning" someone who is facing at most a fine, a suspended sentence, or a diversionary program to expunge the record, and setting them to rat out. Other Class A misdemeanors. If you know of somewhere this is happening, contact your local prosecutor and ask him why, in a time of dwindling resources, he's got the money and manpower for an operation that nets nothing more significant than a parking ticket. Because otherwise someone is trolling for blackmail bait, and the voters of your community might be interested in knowing how he's spending his time and their money.
Know your rights. Use your head. Don't listen to the internets.
If only that were true.
Yeah, except your acct said you were checking in daily to observe the firestorm. You seemed to be reading the activity as it unfolded; (more sickness to then fain you weren't here; duh). Too bad each screen shot wasn't saved that showed your activity during your vacation. But I suppose that info is available.
AAA f*ckin-men to that one. A BIG nothing, other than a display of some very poor decision making skills.The whole 1st person story did nothing to help anyone, and just wasted everyone's time. So not that this story is told in first person the ones whom rape women or do not put on a cover will think twice. Whatever gets you going I guess, I take these things a little more serious, and being an adult I would have taken the actual events if they happen just as serious.
Redlynx Con
05-18-11, 18:19
I would say that Sophie and Macy would rate among the top of the providers in Indy. I am new to the forum but have spent wonderful afternoon's playing hooky with these two great women. In fact, I visited with Macy yesterday for another great afternoon in a nice, quiet, snug and discreet incall location. Not sure if many other providers are so nice.
I have read about the so called issues of some girls working with LEO, is that true? Such as Sophie, MAcy, Jocelyn Who should I aviod?
Thanks
I recently had a provider in Louisville refuse to see me because I had seen some providers in Indy in the past which she said are now involved with LEO. Which shocked me. Unfortunatley stuff gets posted on the internet and never goes away. So these ladies in Indy have this lie still floating around the internet.
I am sorry, I only asked because after I was refused service I look around the internet and saw the rumors posted on other sites.
LADIES: Please forgive me.
Freckle Freak
05-18-11, 23:27
I go on vacation for a week and see what happens."Satire"
I do want to echo Varoom and Chelli as well. You were logging into your account every day between your initial post and the one you thru up today. And I'm sure your little pals were calling you. You knew about the uproar you caused, but did nothing for days to clear it up. Why didn't you? Were you getting your jollies by keeping silent?"Allegory"
Damn technology. What I meant to say was my keyboard went on vacation for a week. Hard to type when it's laying on the beach.
More "satire" Maybe some "Allegory" if you actually pictured it on the beach.
I'm a very infrequent poster and slightly less infrequent reader. Seeing the residue of the storm on page 1, I flipped back a few and read the initial FF post.Smart guy.
She may knock your hat off, but keep your coat on with Teresa.Didn't everyone just discuss this already. Your new, so I guess you missed the DISCUSSION over the last week. Your choice, glad you had the right to make a decision for yourself.
FF.
PS. Paradise presented me some OTC freckles. Thank god, I needed them.
So? The cops always want drug convictions. Uncle Siggy's Peruvian Cocoa Powder, and other Schedule I or II substances, will get you a Class D or C felony conviction, depending on quantity, and that's whether you're a provider, a client, bank president, or Indian chief. It's entirely possible that Uncle Leo might be watching any individual or class in that pursuit, but if that's what you're doing you need to be aware of the law. You've probably already got the paranoia part covered.
But that's not what's being claimed here, as this shite turns up yet again, this time from some guy, or "guy", who's posted four times to the Louisville BP board before tuning up today to smear Indianapolis ladies. It's the idea-legal illiteracy-that Your Uncle is making Class A misdemeanor arrests, then "turning" someone who is facing at most a fine, a suspended sentence, or a diversionary program to expunge the record, and setting them to rat out. Other Class A misdemeanors. If you know of somewhere this is happening, contact your local prosecutor and ask him why, in a time of dwindling resources, he's got the money and manpower for an operation that nets nothing more significant than a parking ticket. Because otherwise someone is trolling for blackmail bait, and the voters of your community might be interested in knowing how he's spending his time and their money.
Know your rights. Use your head. Don't listen to the internets. No, I meant Providers with and or involved with drugs are who LEO is after. Providers not involved in drugs usually don't get hassled. But I know LEO can and will change, all it takes is a Task force to get started then all bets are off. Also, I would keep your postings of "legal illiteracy" at a minimum while this board is on a heightened state of alert lest you get accused of being LEO, yourself.
That last sentence was sarcasm and not meant to be taken seriously. :P
Member #4244
05-19-11, 06:36
I think if you want people to take this seriously you would be posting under your real user name, established on this board. Theresa is safe, clean, a beautiful lady inside and out, and does not deserve this negative publicity. Pick on the BP cash and dash ladies that deserve it. Theresa is gem and deserves to be treated as such.
She may knock your hat off, but keep your coat on with Teresa. Last time I was with her, while that fabulous ass was slamming into me too, she turned around and said "Think how (mmm) good that would (you're so fabulous) feel without (ahh yes baby) the condom on." I pretended not to hear her twice and kept fucking til I got the hell out of there. I mentioned that to a friend and he said she had done the same to him!
Indeed you may be next. Phoney and dangerous, that's her.
I recently had a provider in Louisville refuse to see me because I had seen some providers in Indy in the past which she said are now involved with LEO. Which shocked me. Unfortunatley stuff gets posted on the internet and never goes away. So these ladies in Indy have this lie still floating around the internet.
I am sorry, I only asked because after I was refused service I look around the internet and saw the rumors posted on other sites.
LADIES: Please forgive me. "A provider" in Louisville won't see you because you'd seen "some providers" in Indy. I notice none of them gets named.
Have you, or have you not, ever seen any of the ladies you named? If not, why'd you pick their names if they weren't the "some providers" in question?
A woman in Louisville-that's in Kentucky, right-turns you down because providers in Central Indiana might be LEO? Who did she imagine they were working for? FBI? CIA? Interpol? Did she think the Carmel PD was going to race 120 miles with screamers on to knock on her door because of you?
You post once every four months in the BP section in Louisville, but you come to Indianapolis for the high-priced talent? You get turned down in Louisville based on internet rumors, so you figure your best course of action is to go to an internet board and ask if three women are LEO?
Sure.
(Massive doses of Lithium™. Ask your caretaker for it by name.)
West Central
05-19-11, 08:24
Damn technology. What I meant to say was my keyboard went on vacation for a week. Hard to type when it's laying on the beach. More "satire" Maybe some "Allegory" if you actually pictured it on the beach.I actually pictured your keyboard on the beach. I see this as a sign that I need a vacation. DR is out of the budget, but Tijuana has a beach.
No, I meant Providers with and or involved with drugs are who LEO is after. Providers not involved in drugs usually don't get hassled. But I know LEO can and will change, all it takes is a Task force to get started then all bets are off. Also, I would keep your postings of "legal illiteracy" at a minimum while this board is on a heightened state of alert lest you get accused of being LEO, yourself.
That last sentence was sarcasm and not meant to be taken seriously. :PI didn't mean to argue with you; this shite's been driving me crazy for two or three years now, however long it's been going on (this time) , and I posted without thinking twice. And I misconstrued your comment about drugs, but my answer stands: if you're involved in drugs, worrying about a Class A misdemeanor is like worrying you're going to pull a muscle while swinging your machete wildly in a crowded elevator.
As for "legal illiteracy" it's the correct phrase, and people (obviously) can accuse anyone they want to of being LEO. All of this stuff, going all the way back, has been predicated on an idea of the law which is somewhere between teevee action show and paranoid ravings. Someone with police powers can arrest you for eating a ham sandwich on the Sabbath. He's not supposed to, but all you're empowered to do is see his badge and I'd, then follow along meekly before suing him, if you can. Anyone can be arrested. Sadly, anyone can be convicted, even if innocent; prosecutors are sometimes malfeasant, or misfeasant, policemen are sometimes bullying thugs, or criminals themselves. But the idea of some official conducting a massive operation designed to turn lose someone legitimately caught soliciting in order to trap another Class A scofflaw down the road is almost beyond the pale. Yes, indeedy, many people in positions of authority have severe sexual disfunction or religious manias, as those go hand in hand in hand, but almost all of them are pretty good when it comes to counting money and getting their pictures in the paper for the right reasons.
Above all, it's the paranoia which is the real problem, the thing which causes some poor upright citizen in Louisville to miss his Forbidden Doughnut. Know the law, and understand what a Class A misdemeanor is. If you can't handle being faced with one without breaking down, turning State's Evidence against all your friends, and entering the Witness Protection Program after massive facial reconstruction, then maybe competitive badminton or the exciting world of luxury cruises is more your style.
Bad Bad Man
05-19-11, 08:44
The OP by FF has been read, and reread. Hashed and rehashed. But I'd like to look at the situation from another perspective. Not that of right and wrong, that horse has been beaten into a coma here. It's an issue of practicality.
I choose to use a condom whenever I have sexual contact with an unknown woman. Whether this be a prostitute, a barfly, a new girlfriend. It's just prudent. But I have had BBFS sex with women in my life, as I'm sure all of you have. To say the community "needs to know" who this provider is because of "safety concerns" is ridiculous. Do you think that $200 escort you saw last night didn't go straight home and bang her husband bareback? How about the stripper that let you put "just the tip" in her mouth? She was sucking off her dirty loser boyfriend before work. Not to even mention the high degree of rape and molestation victims in this business.
Every woman and every man in this business has had BB sex. Fucking each other is a risk we take. We try to minimize that risk. But the fact is, the old saying holds: when you have sex with someone, you're having sex with everyone they ever had sex with. And when you go BB with someone, you're going BB with everyone they've gone BB with.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to meet a lovely young lady for brunch and a good hard pounding.
"Wow, I go on vacation for a couple of days and looks what happens", but that is a colloquialism I won't use around here anymore, seems there are some creepy's might be hanging around and checking to see if I am picking up my mail or maybe having it held, and to see if I boarded my vicious pit bulls so they could dig in my trash. And by the way, thanks, first time anyone has called me little in a long time. The pal tag I am cool with though.
As for the blaspheme thrown at a provider for which my desire and at the risk of sounding creepy myself, affection, perhaps respect or admiration would be a better word, is well known and documented, ; I have known and been with her a lot over the last few years, and I have never had her ask me to unwrap unless it was to get rid of an old one so we could get a fresh one for the next round. I know she is upset about this, as I am sure many others do too. There is no doubt that anything I say about all of that here will be looked at with a jaundiced eye here because of my known feelings about her, so my advice to her was to add her own voice to the forum and to say herself what she feels should be said, and she might, or she may just stay above the level that this has gone to and continue on with her life as it is. As we all have proven here before, trashing a provider here rarely has a detrimental effect on their business, sometimes even helping it. Rarely has a spat in this forum between monger and provider ever accomplished anything except to get both overheated, and often removed from the board. I have been with many others over the years that have been accused of similar issues and not once have I ever seen an inkling of that issue occurring during my encounters with them. One could assume that my incredible sexual skill set and obvious massive amount of seething virility scares them all out of such behavior with me, but I am kind of doubting that is what is going on. Once again you never know what is going on between two people behind closed doors, as we have seen here lately and discussed to great lengths, and there are always two sides to every story and two realities of the same exact events, all we can really speak to is what we know ourselves and that is what I have done.
As for the arrests, if we were to never see a provider who has been cited for "working", we would be way down on our available options. There are many more than what rarely comes to light, and although I have been told by many that they have been offered"options" in the end it is a misdemeanor ticket that will have little effect and most of the providers stand up and handle it and go on with their lives, with other legal issues in their lives being much more of a problem for them. Repetitive offenses are an issue as are other related things which might be found in the process, and can complicate it all. Paranoia is rampant often because everyone doing this is taking the risk of breaking the law and being caught, but like most lawbreakers ignore the thought of the consequences until it is thrown in their face, and then since most of the people involved in this as we know it, are for the most part not criminals in the truest sense, so the slightest indication of popo involvement gets everyone worked up and on guard, and gossip is often king between both hobbiest and providers. The great federally funded push recently to clean up human trafficking allowed local enforcement to ignore that mandate and try to cleanup the more mundane sex for sale biz between two consenting adults in their hometown and did bring more heat to bear on all of us, but even there, very little return on the investment for what are minor offenses at a very high rate. They have to look like they are doing the "moral" thing sometimes, but they have to get more bang for their buck than an A misdemeanor. Even though they are often banging before writing the ticket, that hopefully will bite them in their ass someday.
Now for what really pisses me off, BB, thought we were buddies, what is this about this UTR? Are you holding out on me? You may PM me if you want to.
Had a great, no awesome, dream about this young spinner again this afternoon. She was truly the definition of GFE. I woke drained but refreshed with a smile that is going to be very difficult to remove.It goes without saying but "I second that vote"! She is always in an upscale location and provides the same upscale service with a great attitude and a very caring desire! A very nice young lady for sure!
IMO wrapped over unwrapped all times. That even applies to woman outside os the hobby. The health risk has been covered and understood and I love my hourly visits with these lovely ladies. But the last thing I want is a provider showing up at my door holding a little baby Osirusss. I went through something like that before and its not fun.
IrishLaddie
05-19-11, 18:57
Would any senior member like to help a newbie out.
I don't want to ask stupid questions, just ones to guide me down the path.
I have PM'ed a few members, but no one will reply.
Thanks
Just wanted to add my name to the long list of people who have been singing Abby Amour's praises since she got to Indy. She is by far the hottest provider I've been with. Great kisser, smells wonderful, lots of bounce and energy. Can't go wrong with Abby. I'm just sorry I missed her doubles special with Autumn Skyy although to be honest I don't know that I could handle more than just Abby. LOL
"Satire"
"Allegory"
"Pretentious Bore"
I just wanted to pass along some information on a dream I experienced with little Pammy (from E.) being the main character. I met her at the home of a very well reviewed, beautiful SP after a tryst with said SP. I found Pammy to not only be gorgeous and sexy but, very personable. So, I decided to reach out to Pammy and schedule our own time together.
Very good decision on my part. She was wonderful and a very good time was had, especially for this being our first dream together. So good in fact that I had a second dream scheduled for today. However, I awoke yesterday with a fever and flu like symptoms so I had to cancel the dream for today and find myself sitting here telling you guys about it instead of living it.
I would be glad to re-live this dream for you in PM's if anyone finds themselves interested in Pammy or her credentials.
"Pretentious Bore"How did you know I actually answer to that if you shout it out in a crowd of people?
You can has chezburgr!
Try giving me a shoutout next time you are in one of your finer Bentley dealerships, Sartre readings, Prix fixe table the'hote dining establishment.
I'll be the guy in the overalls moping the floor. If you find me, I'll do this neat trick where in just 5 questions, I can accurately tell you the USA Government's actuarial value of your continued existence and then compare it to your own self-imposed value, global standard value, and compare them all with the actual global financial benefit of your death.
Then you can revise your assessment of me from "pretentious bore" to "unmitigated prick."
I answer to both.
Cheers!
Sensorysrprise
05-20-11, 10:31
Could you perverted mongers revert back to talking about your latest hot piece of ass? I'm bored with this forum discussion. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sensorysrprise
05-20-11, 11:05
Where's Mr. P with one of his rave reviews? That will change the pace for sure.
(You know I'm right!)
Could you perverted mongers revert back to talking about your latest hot piece of ass? I'm bored with this forum discussion. ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzI have seen Sensory some time back and if she is politicing for a review well what can I say. She is without a doubt one of the finest French speakers in the hobby and attacks with enthusiasm, draining every last bit of stress out of her "lover" and one of the best set of hands and mouth available. The woman truly loves to f* and loves to be f*the. She will in the heat of passion make every effort to extricate your tonsils with some of the finest dfk you will ever experience. If I had her as a girlfriend, off the clock, I would just sign my insurance over to her and die with a BIG smile on my face but not for quite a long time. I know how to prolong a "good thing" if I just had a champagne wallet to go with my voracious appetites. LOL Sensy when she is around and available for play is a go to lady to "relieve" what ever ails you. Now Sensy do you feel better? Kisses, warm wet licks and pleasure.
BigMack
Sensorysrprise
05-20-11, 14:27
How did you know I actually answer to that if you shout it out in a crowd of people?
You can has chezburgr!
Try giving me a shoutout next time you are in one of your finer Bentley dealerships, Sartre readings, Prix fixe table the'hote dining establishment.
I'll be the guy in the overalls moping the floor. If you find me, I'll do this neat trick where in just 5 questions, I can accurately tell you the USA Government's actuarial value of your continued existence and then compare it to your own self-imposed value, global standard value, and compare them all with the actual global financial benefit of your death.
Then you can revise your assessment of me from "pretentious bore" to "unmitigated prick."
I answer to both.
Cheers!Why am I so incredibly turned on after reading? Seriously, is it the sarcasm, ample vocabulary, uncanny with, or all of the above? Maybe it's just the general reading enjoyment, because I am oblivious to what just happened. I don't know, but it's almost like a wet between the thighs, hot for teacher effect. Thanks you. I'm going to go take care of that now.
Could you perverted mongers revert back to talking about your latest hot piece of ass? I'm bored with this forum discussion. ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzThe bigger question is whats going to be the one stop shop once E. Com shuts down? That question keeps me up at night. Moreso than the world ending this Saturday.
Macy (I'm posting from my phone so quotations are under this comment instead of in front of it.)
I just moved here 6 months ago and am very nervous about the LE situation. I have not been accepting references from people using you as a reference because there is a post on grainbelt news saying you've been involved with LE. Could you please contact the admin over there asking for proof or to have it taken down. This is disheartening as I trust GBN for information regarding busts in the area, but if they're posting false information this is going out to a lot of people and it needs to be stopped. I have no ill-will against you and I know you're legit. I just wish this could be straightened out. I will be very upset if GBN is in the wrong as I consider the Indy peoplr on that site my friends and we have get togethers all the time.
Please please contact GBN and have them remove the info about you being busted.
Hello, Darlings,
I am disheartened that for those of you who I've already met with and had a wonderful time with, would question my loyalty to the hobby.
I have never been arrested, detained or associated with the law.
I was wrongly accused 2 years ago by another provider who claimed I turned on her for a reference. This provider, regardless of her professionalism and reputation, planted a "seed" which turned into one heck of a "beanstalk". It's sad to know that one person can say something derogatory about another, even an untruth, and it is believed wholeheartedly, regardless of my spotless reputation.
I have been a provider for 9 years, I have been a true girlfriend and faithful friend to those who I've met. My professionalism, discretion and maturity go unmatched. I love my chosen profession and love to please.
Rumors are a disease, please don't get infected.
Kisses to all of you gentleman who have stood by me during my time of being victimized with the rumor parade.
I must also add, Sophie is a good friend of mine and safe to meet with as well, she has also suffered the same abuse as I have, in terms of false accusations.
Hugs and Kisses to you all. Macy
The bigger question is whats going to be the one stop shop once E. Com shuts down? That question keeps me up at night. Moreso than the world ending this Saturday.I have been highly recommending this site to the SP's that I have been talking to. I have heard of a new sight preparing to launch in June as well. Don't know anything about it at this point.
Macy (I'm posting from my phone so quotations are under this comment instead of in front of it.)
I just moved here 6 months ago and am very nervous about the LE situation. I have not been accepting references from people using you as a reference because there is a post on grainbelt news saying you've been involved with LE. Could you please contact the admin over there asking for proof or to have it taken down. This is disheartening as I trust GBN for information regarding busts in the area, but if they're posting false information this is going out to a lot of people and it needs to be stopped. I have no ill-will against you and I know you're legit. I just wish this could be straightened out. I will be very upset if GBN is in the wrong as I consider the Indy peoplr on that site my friends and we have get togethers all the time.
Please please contact GBN and have them remove the info about you being busted. Sweetie,
Let's begin with a quick reminder that we are on the wonderful, USA Sex Guide. Okay, that being said, I trust GBN as well as you do, it has served a valuable tool in my own personal screening process. I disregard the little poo poo said about me personally and take about 1/3 of what is posted as golden. LOL
I, like any other intelligent person and provider, always think before I act. I trust and hope that regardless of the reference you are given, you are being aware and cautious.
If a forum wants to post heresay and slander against a provider then that's what is going to happen hon. If you've been in the industry for any amount of time that is a given.
I have tried to find your information on the various sites I'm listed on and for some reason, can't find who you are.
I am ever so grateful to you, for having the bravado, to post your concerns and suggestions as to how and what is necessary for me to be an acceptable reference. I trust that perhaps you can PM me for more suggestions as to how to be a more suitable provider and what is most important in being a trustworthy date?
AbbyAmour, darling, I wish you the best of luck in your adventure's and thrill seeking excursion's, for which is plausible, and hope that for whatever it's worth, you take a moment to stop and think. I mean, really think!
Be careful out here, it's a very complicated world we live in little one.
I'm safe to meet with are you? PM me in reference to my concerns about where you've been hon, I've been in Indy for 37 years now. 6 months ago was December 2010.
Again, you are a doll and treasure for stating that you have concerns.
I'm, once again, a target for slander and internet propaganda.
I, offer thanks for the additional advertisement and gossip, without those I won't be ahead of the game.
Good luck to you and to all a good night!
Macy.
www.hotmacy.escort-site.com
Freckle Freak
05-21-11, 08:15
"Pretentious Bore"That I am and wanting to do anything to help Sensory with her issue of.
Could you perverted mongers revert back to talking about your latest hot piece of ass? I'm bored with this forum discussion. ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzI will update everyone on my previous post on the SC board. I decided to meet up with the sexy freckled lady I met at CP. We met at a sleazy, but clean hotel off of Washington. When she arrived she looked hot in her see through blouse with her large nipples poking through. Now this lady is not a PT's beauty nor would she likely be hired at the new Ricks Cabaret, but she is very attractive. Long sandy blond hair, firm B cup breasts with large nips, a very sexy ass, nice legs, short in stature, a very pretty face and last but not least freckles from her waist to the top of her head. The site of her stirred the fire in my loins.
After we secured our humble abode we talked about her freckles, ex-boyfriend and current girlfriend. She is bi and game for a threesome which will be another story for different day. She wanted to shower and wanted me to watch. Nothing like lathering up some freckles with lot's of creamy soap. At this point my "Pretentious Bore" was ready for some action. Her freckled shoulders and back were clearly visible as she slowly undressed me, this of course being one of my favorite sights. She pushed me back on the bed and crawled up running her long hair along my torso. As it brushed across my 'Pretentious Bore' it rose to the occasion. Now there is nothing like getting a BBBJ by a long haired freckled woman. The sight of kisses of angels swaying and bobbing about my 'Pretentious Bore' was amazing and enough for me to almost deliver my first cup of the day. I needed this after the boring past two weeks.
I then asked to repeat the favor and she presented a very clean and nicely trimmed Y dining area. I quickly dove in all the while keeping my eyes focused on the freckled body as she heaved, moaned, thrashed and grabbed throughout the entire meal. Whenever my tongue entered her, she would grab my ears and pull me in. I could tell she reached her pinnacle of pleasure when my mouth was slightly flooded with a small stream of feminine cream. As always, a good meal makes my 'Pretentious Bore' rise to the occasion ready for action. She climbed on top taking me back into her mouth and then slowly slid on the cover. As she slowly slid down, her eyes rolled back in her head and she moaned how good it felt to finally be connected in this way with such a large 'Pretentious Bore'. Throughout all of this there was a great deal of passionate kissing and of course licking her freckled chest, neck, and sucking on those deliciously hard nipples. She moaned and groaned the entire time riding, swaying, moving, pushing or lifting, on and off, my 'Pretentious Bore' until she reached her second pleasurable moment. She asked me to take over and we moved to doggy, to side and then she wanted me on top. I reached under her and grabbed both of her succulent cheeks with my hands as my 'Pretentious Bore' was driving into her inner regions and releasing its recent frustrations. She told me after my cup runneth over that next time she wanted to see and taste my love nectar. Now little did I know that she meant within the next hour. I however had to leave and promised to be back soon. She told me she would keep her freckles out and waiting for my return.
The total cost of my freckled release was $.5. Not bad for an hour with a very sexy freckled lady. I truly think she enjoyed her time using and abusing a 'Pretentious Bore'. Sensory, I know I am not as good as the President but I do think I told somewhat of an erotic story. I hope you liked it.
FF.
PS. Snobby freckles at PT's with friends but one naughty lady.
She told me after my cup runneth over that next time she wanted to see and taste my love nectar. Can we please get back to boring discussions now?
I have been highly recommending this site to the SP's that I have been talking to. I have heard of a new sight preparing to launch in June as well. Don't know anything about it at this point.I wish more providers would post here. But this place has been kinda harsh towards them in the past, so I wouldn't blame them if they didn't.
Indiana Johns met Slutcake yesterday. All that has already been said about her is no exaggeration. Indiana Johns thoroughly enjoyed her company, conversation, and of course everything else. Thanks Slutcake for a wonderful time.
[QUOTE=Hotmacy; 1198022]Sweetie,
I, like any other intelligent person and provider, always think before I act. I trust and hope that regardless of the reference you are given, you are being aware and cautious.
I, offer thanks for the additional advertisement and gossip, without those I won't be ahead of the game.
Good luck to you and to all a good night!
Macy.
Well, I would be jealous too if you you were not so damn sweet and nice. Same goes for a couple of my other blonde friends. Plus you are witty and funny and opportunities to be with you is something to look forward to, for me and others. Of course Sensy will always be my favorite brunette. Abby, I don't know you, but I know you are awesome, just too young for me.
Without boring everyone with accoldes for Macy because there are too many, I just want to publically say thank you to Macy for the excellent referrals, references and suppport. I hope the rumours are soon put to rest. There is enough business for everyone who is good at what they offer, I. E. Slutcake, who is too nice for that name, and all the aformentioned and others.
Xoxo. Elle.
I just want to chime in and show my love and admiration for HotMacy. She has been a top Indy provider for some time now and has earned the "right" not to answer to anyone or any board about some bogus claim. She is well loved by many men be / see not only is she beautiful on the outside. But very beautiful on the inside. She is prolly the sweetest and kindhearted person I know! Plus what a body! Yikes! Heehe.
One of these times, Mace we will have to do some doubles together! Oh my!
Ask around town, or google it. Check with Megan Love. At best it's a collection of people saying things on the internets, and credulous retransmission of someone else's news reports.
And at worst, well, let's put it this way: in my estimation, if providers are going to trust anyone else it ought first to be other local providers, not male-dominated websites. And if they're going to trust male-dominated websites, it ought first to be those which actually respect providers.
If any.
Hot Macy.
I don't know you but I've hard a lot of great things about you and I'm sure you're an awesome provider. While I admit this is an issue between you and Abby, I've known the Abster since the holidays, and during all of the times I've hung out with her, she hasn't said one negative thing about anyone, provider or hobbyist. In fact, she's done the opposite, pointing out to me how attractive the other Indy providers, even mentioning you by name after one of our sessions. And I do recall that she helped out a provider not too long ago (I think with a photo shoot; Abby is an experienced photographer and takes all her own pics).
I'm sure the good old boys at GBN have not tried to steer her in the wrong direction; there's probably just some miscommunication by someone on one of the boards over there. Yes, we all know how some rumors get started, then twisted. But I'm sure Abby had nothing to do with those rumors and simply is looking out for a provider she has the utmost respect for. She's a sweet, kind-hearted person who would help out anyone who needs it. I can honestly say in the six months I've known her, that's the one visible trait that I've picked up on more than anything else.
Sincerely,
BF Deal.
Sweetie,
Let's begin with a quick reminder that we are on the wonderful, USA Sex Guide. Okay, that being said, I trust GBN as well as you do, it has served a valuable tool in my own personal screening process. I disregard the little poo poo said about me personally and take about 1/3 of what is posted as golden. LOL
I, like any other intelligent person and provider, always think before I act. I trust and hope that regardless of the reference you are given, you are being aware and cautious.
If a forum wants to post heresay and slander against a provider then that's what is going to happen hon. If you've been in the industry for any amount of time that is a given.
I have tried to find your information on the various sites I'm listed on and for some reason, can't find who you are.
I am ever so grateful to you, for having the bravado, to post your concerns and suggestions as to how and what is necessary for me to be an acceptable reference. I trust that perhaps you can PM me for more suggestions as to how to be a more suitable provider and what is most important in being a trustworthy date?
AbbyAmour, darling, I wish you the best of luck in your adventure's and thrill seeking excursion's, for which is plausible, and hope that for whatever it's worth, you take a moment to stop and think. I mean, really think!
Be careful out here, it's a very complicated world we live in little one.
I'm safe to meet with are you? PM me in reference to my concerns about where you've been hon, I've been in Indy for 37 years now. 6 months ago was December 2010.
Again, you are a doll and treasure for stating that you have concerns.
I'm, once again, a target for slander and internet propaganda.
I, offer thanks for the additional advertisement and gossip, without those I won't be ahead of the game.
Good luck to you and to all a good night!
Macy.
www.hotmacy.escort-site.com
I just want to chime in and show my love and admiration for HotMacy. She has been a top Indy provider for some time now and has earned the "right" not to answer to anyone or any board about some bogus claim. She is well loved by many men be / see not only is she beautiful on the outside. But very beautiful on the inside. She is prolly the sweetest and kindhearted person I know! Plus what a body! Yikes! Heehe.
One of these times, Mace we will have to do some doubles together! Oh my! I could have responded to each comment but once for all is adequate! Now this is a threesome to join in with that would not win many golf outings with me as the score would be high but only if I could keep up with these ladies but it would definitely be worth the effort and I would be a happy man regardless of the score!
Sweetie,
Let's begin with a quick reminder that we are on the wonderful, USA Sex Guide. (edit delete)
Macy.
www.hotmacy.escort-site.com
Macy's post addressing AbbyAmour's concern is the most thoughtful, well written answer to a topic such as this I have ever seen. Macy is dripping wet with class.
I wish she would visit us more.
Hey, I wouldn't mind making her dripping wet with, uhh, class. *urp*
The "INFO" on lovely Macy came from a nutty provider whom I think was kicked off of this board by Jackson himself. It wasn't just Macy this Provider lied about either. She tried to turn everyone against some of the top providers in INDY by stating they are working with LEO. I think It backfired and I don't know if she is still around, while Macy enjoys most fav status for many Hobbyists.
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The "INFO" on lovely Macy came from a nutty provider whom I think was kicked off of this board by Jackson himself. It wasn't just Macy this Provider lied about either. She tried to turn everyone against some of the top providers in INDY by stating they are working with LEO. I think It backfired and I don't know if she is still around, while Macy enjoys most fav status for many Hobbyists.In fact it didn't start on this board, but migrated here after an earlier expulsion elsewhere. And we shouldn't lose sight of how much this depended on others-hobbyists and providers, in all innocence or with malicious intent-repeating this stuff over and over on public boards, as if "Hey, I heard so-and-so is working with leo" will 1) gather some sort of official confirmation ("Hi, luvsboobs89, I'm Sheriff Ross Pilcherd, and I can affirm that yes, she's one of us now.") or 2) finally solve the mystery of why Central Indiana providers and hobbyists have been disappearing like Columbian peasants. It makes no frigging sense, not even if someone is credulous enough to believe or wonder about the rumors. And it makes no sense because if you can't trust established providers with great reputations, how can you trust anyone? And, especially, how can you trust people blathering on the internets?
It's easy to blame all this on some cranky provider who was a source for much of this, and whose public behavior was something short of sane and reasonable, and to accept "professional jealousy" or "not enough lithium" as explanations. And maybe that's all there was to it, but the fact is that her extended rants included some accurate personal details about people alongside the There's A Big Bust A'Coming and accusations of people turning rat. She got this from somewhere. Gossiping hobbyist or talkative provider? Leo (she claimed a source inside the DAs office, but she uncorked some laughably illiterate legal notions)? Some industry insider who traffics in rumor and bust roundups, and imagines he's taking over the world? I dunno, but I do know that people can wise up and realize that repeating rumors is in no one's interest.
Why am I so incredibly turned on after reading? Seriously, is it the sarcasm, ample vocabulary, uncanny with, or all of the above? Maybe it's just the general reading enjoyment, because I am oblivious to what just happened. I don't know, but it's almost like a wet between the thighs, hot for teacher effect. Thanks you. I'm going to go take care of that now.Why else would you be turned on?
Or, as you say, it might very well be my "uncanny wi[the]th" though. Who told?
-Cheers
I just want to chime in and show my love and admiration for HotMacy. She has been a top Indy provider for some time now and has earned the "right" not to answer to anyone or any board about some bogus claim. She is well loved by many men be / see not only is she beautiful on the outside. But very beautiful on the inside. She is prolly the sweetest and kindhearted person I know! Plus what a body! Yikes! Heehe.
One of these times, Mace we will have to do some doubles together! Oh my! Double with Macy OMG!
We are really hot and offering a true girl on girl!
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We are really hot and offering a true girl on girl!
131697
I guess I am just getting older but these lovely ladies sure do look young, actually small and young? Ouch?
You gotta love race time! The options always increase right along with the price.
Sensorysrprise
05-24-11, 09:38
Why else would you be turned on?
Or, as you say, it might very well be my "uncanny wi[the]th" though. Who told?
CheersConsidering all of the typos, I was obviously more frustrated than a one armed man watching porn. What can you expect? LOL
Sensorysrprise
05-24-11, 09:50
Why else would you be turned on?
Or, as you say, it might very well be my "uncanny wi[the]th" though. Who told?
-Cheers
[QUOTE=Hotmacy; 1198022]Sweetie,
I, like any other intelligent person and provider, always think before I act. I trust and hope that regardless of the reference you are given, you are being aware and cautious.
I, offer thanks for the additional advertisement and gossip, without those I won't be ahead of the game.
Good luck to you and to all a good night!
Macy.
Well, I would be jealous too if you you were not so damn sweet and nice. Same goes for a couple of my other blonde friends. Plus you are witty and funny and opportunities to be with you is something to look forward to, for me and others. Of course Sensy will always be my favorite brunette. Abby, I don't know you, but I know you are awesome, just too young for me.
Without boring everyone with accoldes for Macy because there are too many, I just want to publically say thank you to Macy for the excellent referrals, references and suppport. I hope the rumours are soon put to rest. There is enough business for everyone who is good at what they offer, I. E. Slutcake, who is too nice for that name, and all the aformentioned and others.
Xoxo. Elle.Thank you, Elle. Now all I can think about is the first time we ever met. Purrrrrrrrr. Hahahahaha.
Sensorysrprise
05-24-11, 10:10
I have seen Sensory some time back and if she is politicing for a review well what can I say. She is without a doubt one of the finest French speakers in the hobby and attacks with enthusiasm, draining every last bit of stress out of her "lover" and one of the best set of hands and mouth available. The woman truly loves to f* and loves to be f*the. She will in the heat of passion make every effort to extricate your tonsils with some of the finest dfk you will ever experience. If I had her as a girlfriend, off the clock, I would just sign my insurance over to her and die with a BIG smile on my face but not for quite a long time. I know how to prolong a "good thing" if I just had a champagne wallet to go with my voracious appetites. LOL Sensy when she is around and available for play is a go to lady to "relieve" what ever ails you. Now Sensy do you feel better? Kisses, warm wet licks and pleasure.
BigMackFor a BigMack!
I was obviously more frustrated than a one armed man watching porn. What can you expect? LOL. I have not heard that one before. But wait, do I really need more than one arm?
Illiniman11
05-24-11, 19:02
Had another dream about this little spinner this afternoon. My dreams about her get more and more intense. She is not for everyone but if your interests are for a slim, very attractuve spinner, that is the epitome of a GFE, then Andrea is for you. She screens heavily for her protection (as well as yours) but the time spent being verified is well worth it. Her skills are incredible for her young age.
Northsideman
05-24-11, 20:19
I still miss Blaire. I'd love to hear some more stories from her many fans. If in this post I sound like a "lapdog", guilty as charged!
I'm tempted to say that the best part of my session with Blaire was hanging out in her living room and talking to her. A conversation with Blaire is always fascinating! Blaire is definitely not a "wham bam, thank you Sam" girl. I used to stop by my favorite MP, and talk to my regular there (not Blaire), even call her, just to talk, but chatting with Blaire on her couch was way better.
Blaire said she plays Disney songs on the piano. I wanted to hear her "tickle the ivories" but we never got around to that. I'm sure she tickles the keys as well as she tickles everything else. My visit to Blaireland was a lot more fun than Disneyland and my tour guide was way cuter than Minnie Mouse!
Someone said they were impressed that Blaire knew about Clint Eastwood and spaghetti westerns, and they watched one together (I wish I could have watched a movie with her!). Well I mentioned Nancy Sinatra, then I said "she was before your time" and Blaire said "I know who Nancy Sinatra is". So Blaire gets an A+ in "60s Pop Culture Studies"!
Like I said before, Blaire didn't flip out when I asked for foot fetish services, unlike other providers I've known. When I first arrived at her place she answered the door barefoot (which is equivalent to a woman answering the door topless for a breast man) and I told Blaire "just looking at those toes could make me come". She even offered to put my choice of shoes ON but I told her I prefer bare feet. I've paid feature dancers for pictures only to have them refuse to take off their shoes. Blaire's attitude towards foot play is definitely the opposite of that. Kissing Blaire's beautiful soles was exquisite! Blaire could make a fortune with a website just showing her gorgeous little feet!
I had hoped to have a second session with Blaire but it didn't happen. I was busy working and Blaire was busy packing. While we tried to set up a time I got to hear Blaire's sweet voice on the phone (I miss that voice so much!). Mostly Blaire sent me texts, which were as cute and charming as the lady herself. And I do mean "Lady" in every sense of the word. Blaire is every bit as royal as Kate Middleton! Would I go on a mission "On Her Majesty's Secret Service"? In a hearbeat, and I wouldn't even have to consult James Bond.
In one text Blaire told me she enjoyed our session and "hanging out" with me. What a classy girl! No other provider has ever sent me such a message.
Blaire hinted that she wouldn't be escorting forever; she wants to avoid "getting sucked into this business". With Blaire's intelligence and her eagerness to please she will definitely be successful in any profession she chooses. Will Blaire be our first female President? She's got my vote!
I would have loved to take her out to dinner or done other "real date" stuff with her. I'm so jealous of anyone who got to do that! Life is full of regrets, but then actress / rado host Alexi Wasser says "regret is a wasted emotion"!
I know it's not good to get emotional about escorts. Cute little Blaire took a piece of my heart when she left town. I think I'm gonna cry again.
northsideman
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IrishLaddie
05-24-11, 20:22
Anyone?
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/o-erotco-o-seductiveo-o-fantases-and-specials-24/4402675
I still miss Blaire. I'd love to hear some more stories from her many fans. If in this post I sound like a "lapdog", guilty as charged!
I'm tempted to say that the best part of my session with Blaire was hanging out in her living room and talking to her. A conversation with Blaire is always fascinating! Blaire is definitely not a "wham bam, thank you Sam" girl. I used to stop by my favorite MP, and talk to my regular there (not Blaire) , even call her, just to talk, but chatting with Blaire on her couch was way better.
Blaire said she plays Disney songs on the piano. I wanted to hear her "tickle the ivories" but we never got around to that. I'm sure she tickles the keys as well as she tickles everything else. My visit to Blaireland was a lot more fun than Disneyland and my tour guide was way cuter than Minnie Mouse!
Someone said they were impressed that Blaire knew about Clint Eastwood and spaghetti westerns, and they watched one together (I wish I could have watched a movie with her!). Well I mentioned Nancy Sinatra, then I said "she was before your time" and Blaire said "I know who Nancy Sinatra is". So Blaire gets an A+ in "60s Pop Culture Studies"!
Like I said before, Blaire didn't flip out when I asked for foot fetish services, unlike other providers I've known. When I first arrived at her place she answered the door barefoot (which is equivalent to a woman answering the door topless for a breast man) and I told Blaire "just looking at those toes could make me come". She even offered to put my choice of shoes ON but I told her I prefer bare feet. I've paid feature dancers for pictures only to have them refuse to take off their shoes. Blaire's attitude towards foot play is definitely the opposite of that. Kissing Blaire's beautiful soles was exquisite! Blaire could make a fortune with a website just showing her gorgeous little feet!
I had hoped to have a second session with Blaire but it didn't happen. I was busy working and Blaire was busy packing. While we tried to set up a time I got to hear Blaire's sweet voice on the phone (I miss that voice so much!). Mostly Blaire sent me texts, which were as cute and charming as the lady herself. And I do mean "Lady" in every sense of the word. Blaire is every bit as royal as Kate Middleton! Would I go on a mission "On Her Majesty's Secret Service"? In a hearbeat, and I wouldn't even have to consult James Bond.
In one text Blaire told me she enjoyed our session and "hanging out" with me. What a classy girl! No other provider has ever sent me such a message.
Blaire hinted that she wouldn't be escorting forever; she wants to avoid "getting sucked into this business". With Blaire's intelligence and her eagerness to please she will definitely be successful in any profession she chooses. Will Blaire be our first female President? She's got my vote!
I would have loved to take her out to dinner or done other "real date" stuff with her. I'm so jealous of anyone who got to do that! Life is full of regrets, but then actress / rado host Alexi Wasser says "regret is a wasted emotion"!
I know it's not good to get emotional about escorts. Cute little Blaire took a piece of my heart when she left town. I think I'm going to cry again.
Northsideman.
131812Count me in as a Blaire fan and friend. The first time I met her was probably the most intense adventure of our nearly two year friendship. I became her photographer soon after meeting her, and have done several shoots with her, including her recent farewell shoot (the west coast photogs will get ahold of her and her gf's for damn sure!). Since meeting we've been more like friends than lovers. Before Christmas I took her out to dinner in Carmel, just to hang with her and have a good time, and we did. Just hanging and eating. She is very intelligent, and can write her own ticket with her brain. I've also noticed she has become even more shapely if that's possible. Sexier than ever. I know she's just a phone call or text away (despite being 2000 miles away physically) , and we often just say Hello. I just hope she doesn't forget us back home!
I guess I am just getting older but these lovely ladies sure do look young, actually small and young? Ouch?They would probably put a whooping on you for their size. I an intrigued but skeptical about the authenticity of the post. You know what your daddy says about things that look too good to be true.
Anyone seen Mia1 on e. Com? Contact infor is itsthebestyes@gmail.com Phone Number (260) 310. 0008.
She's a cute blonde! Just looking for intel? Thanks in advance; pm if you prefer.
ThaiVictory
05-25-11, 16:52
I am encumbered with a severe condition. It is called YELLOW FEVER. I have set up a multi-step plan to cure this. 1) Identify the problem (I love Asian women and have no interest in white birds) 2) Express a desire to do what is necessary to acquire an Asian provider-hopefully GFE-in Central Indiana so I don't have to drive to AMP's in Michigan while gas prices are out of control. 3) Have an extremely helpful and caring person read this and PM or post clues where I can find this treasure I seek. I would be rather grateful. I am talking FS here so please no hints about the Chinese massage / HE joints around Indy. I enjoy them for what they offer but I need a little more than that. Hell, I would even be grateful if someone knows where I could meet a non-P4P Asian. GASP. I can't believe I just said that. Come on, help a fellow mongerer out before I have to change to ladyboys (I'm joking-I think.)
Illiniman11
05-25-11, 22:13
Has anyone actually seen Joanna? Would like to hear a report either on here on PM.
Has anyone actually seen Joanna? Would like to hear a report either on here on PM.I haven't seen her but whoa, she is hot. Didn't find much on google.
Sensorysrprise
05-26-11, 09:09
LOL. I have not heard that one before. But wait, do I really need more than one arm?Always good to have one hand for the remote while the other hand goes for the stroke. .
Good for moments that need a double take, or freeze frame. Picture in picture is always a nice option.
Hmmmmmm. Ya know. I think I should go clean my remote control now that I think about it. LOL.
Always good to have one hand for the remote while the other hand goes for the stroke. .
Good for moments that need a double take, or freeze frame. Picture in picture is always a nice option.
Hmmmmmm. Ya know. I think I should go clean my remote control now that I think about it. LOL.JcJChan forget two hands with Sensey She will have your toes curled, you will engaged in a superb game of tonsil hockey and before you start the festivities you might let SS know if you have Cruise Control <SMILE The woman is aptly named and it is one of many reasons why you will want to cum back over and over. She is a not to be missed lady.
Anyone seen Mia1 on e. Com? Contact infor is itsthebestyes@gmail.com Phone Number (260) 310. 0008.
She's a cute blonde! Just looking for intel? Thanks in advance; pm if you prefer.I have tried desperately to get a hold of Mia but she won't respond to my emails. I saw her on e. Com but they no longer publish anything for her as far as a phone number or email unless you are a member. With them closing, why bother. If you here from her, let me know. Thanks
Has anyone actually seen Joanna? Would like to hear a report either on here on PM.I've seen her, she's definitely cute, very small. Very very thin. Performance was OK, she has a few rules and is not GFE but she tries. But she has a nice incall, snappy little body and the price is right. If you like thin girls with tiny hips and legs she is your ticket.
I have tried desperately to get a hold of Mia but she won't respond to my emails. I saw her on e. Com but they no longer publish anything for her as far as a phone number or email unless you are a member. With them closing, why bother. If you here from her, let me know. ThanksShe's a VIP member. Email and phone are there.
Illiniman11
05-27-11, 15:11
Finally broke the ice and had a dream this afternoon about Abby. OMG! I am kicking myself in the butt for not doing it earlier. She is amazing!
Member #4244
05-27-11, 19:15
I haven't seen her but whoa, she is hot. Didn't find much on google.Is there a link this girl, you have me curious.
An earlier report suggests she is not GFE.
Is there a link this girl, you have me curious.
Abby abby ABBY, what a great dream I had with Abby. She's a keeper.
Member #4244
05-28-11, 17:40
Sr. Members,
I found one fresh off the Sugar Daddy sites. Petite little spinner, waste length black hair, tan and sexy. Very slim girl with man made but nicely done C's. She's no more than 5'3" 100lbs. Very good skills, nice and private apartment local on the north side. Only draw back is she's young enough to where she doesn't have much to say but is very sweet and again very good skills. She'll need some tutoring and care along the way; very new. PM me if you're a trusted member.
I've seen her, she's definitely cute, very small. Very very thin. Performance was OK, she has a few rules and is not GFE but she tries. But she has a nice incall, snappy little body and the price is right. If you like thin girls with tiny hips and legs she is your ticket.Might this be the lady to which you refer?
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-and-fit-no-kidding-just-good-friendly-service-you-will-love-26/4459288
She's a VIP member. Email and phone are there.I think I said that if you would have read my post. E. Com is shutting down so I am not going to pay for a membership.
Sensorysrprise
05-28-11, 20:13
Having a hard time getting laid? Then you must not live in Indianapolis.
Perhaps you should, because America's racing capital is the number 1 city to make the list of the most sexually active. That's right guys, Indianapolis is the most sexually satisfied city in the country.
Did I mention Ft. Wayne, IN came in third? Coincidence? I think not!
I think our local ladies deserve a round of applause, accompanied with a standing ovation! These orgasmatronic women know how to tease, squeeze, and totally please their Indy men!
Gentlemen, please take a bow! Thank you for being equal-opportunity orgasm fans.
P. S.
Does anyone know how to play the 1812 Overture on a touchtone phone with their tongue?
I think I said that if you would have read my post. E. Com is shutting down so I am not going to pay for a membership.Your post wasn't all that challenging. You said:
"they no longer publish anything for her as far as a phone number or email unless you are a member"
But *she's* a member. So her contact info is published, same as always, and you don't have to be a member to get it. Same as always.
If you meant that they won't be publishing her contact info *after* they shut down then we're in agreement.
Having a hard time getting laid? Then you must not live in Indianapolis.
Perhaps you should, because America's racing capital is the number 1 city to make the list of the most sexually active. That's right guys, Indianapolis is the most sexually satisfied city in the country.
Did I mention Ft. Wayne, IN came in third? Coincidence? I think not!
I think our local ladies deserve a round of applause, accompanied with a standing ovation! These orgasmatronic women know how to tease, squeeze, and totally please their Indy men!
Gentlemen, please take a bow! Thank you for being equal-opportunity orgasm fans.
P. S.
Does anyone know how to play the 1812 Overture on a touchtone phone with their tongue? Not with my tongue Sensey any other options available? PM and maybe we can discover the possibilities LOL
Having a hard time getting laid? Then you must not live in Indianapolis.
Perhaps you should, because America's racing capital is the number 1 city to make the list of the most sexually active. That's right guys, Indianapolis is the most sexually satisfied city in the country.
Did I mention Ft. Wayne, IN came in third? Coincidence? I think not!
I think our local ladies deserve a round of applause, accompanied with a standing ovation! These orgasmatronic women know how to tease, squeeze, and totally please their Indy men!
Gentlemen, please take a bow! Thank you for being equal-opportunity orgasm fans.
P. S.
Does anyone know how to play the 1812 Overture on a touchtone phone with their tongue? Thank you ladies, BRAVO!
I can't play the 1812 overture on a touchtone phone, I can however play the theme to Sanford and Son on my phone with my ballsack.
Sr. Members,
I found one fresh off the Sugar Daddy sites. Petite little spinner, waste length black hair, tan and sexy. Very slim girl with man made but nicely done C's. She's no more than 5'3" 100lbs. Very good skills, nice and private apartment local on the north side. Only draw back is she's young enough to where she doesn't have much to say but is very sweet and again very good skills. She'll need some tutoring and care along the way; very new. PM me if you're a trusted member. Right, that's Joanna. She has an ad on BP as well.
Might this be the lady to which you refer?
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-and-fit-no-kidding-just-good-friendly-service-you-will-love-26/4459288That's it!
Sensorysrprise
05-29-11, 19:00
I can't play the 1812 overture on a touchtone phone, I can however play the theme to Sanford and Son on my phone with my ballsack.Now that's impressive!
Let me be the first, on this site anyway, to wish Abby Amour a happy birthday, even though it feels like our birthday when we as hobbyists hang out with her. She's truly a unique gem here in the Hoosier state.
BFDeal
Brownbear28
05-30-11, 18:05
I saw Jenna today. She advertises in the ad section under the handle "Erotic808".
I went to her incall which was in a small house on the south side. Everyone always says "the pictures don't do her justice" well in her case that was correct. I was thunderstruck she opened the door. She looked amazing, great figure and a cute California girl face (that's just my opinion). She talks a lot, which is good because I'm quiet a lot. I enjoyed my time with her and I would defiantly repeat in the future.
That's all I've got to say.
Thank you ladies, BRAVO!
I can't play the 1812 overture on a touchtone phone, I can however play the theme to Sanford and Son on my phone with my ballsack.I think I'd pay to see that
This has to be tooo good to be true.
http://www.hushindy.com/jayde.html
If not, I'm taking the jump.
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