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OldManBuckeye
06-02-22, 09:33
In my opinion I feel these fricken women are just money hungry sluts. Because they know he has money they feel they should be entitled to more than he paid for their services. All that I can say is what a fucking joke.I agree with you. And if this is proven correct. Then he needs to turn around and sue everyone of those women who tried to ruin his life.

Navritol
06-02-22, 12:02
I agree with you. And if this is proven correct. Then he needs to turn around and sue everyone of those women who tried to ruin his life.Of course, there's an element of truth in what you say about those women.

However, someone like Watson must take care to protect himself from his own vices.

"It is a great thing to know your vices." - Marcus Tullius Cicero.

SR7D1
06-02-22, 16:55
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/216-970-1890100-new-asian-girlgrand-opening/46539482

Anyone hit this place yet?Answering my own post. Hit this place yesterday. Lisa. A bit better than the average quality asian we have around here. Thin, large boobs. 35-45, who knows. Nice, friendly, no upsell until the end. 40/60 HJ with titty play. Massage was outstanding though. I would go back for that alone. As always, YMMV.

MoonDoggie
06-02-22, 18:11
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Navritol
06-02-22, 23:45
I hope someday I'm smart enough to be able to quote Cicero."If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month. " - Theodore Roosevelt.

Navritol
06-03-22, 00:07
In my opinion I feel these fricken women are just money hungry sluts. Because they know he has money they feel they should be entitled to more than he paid for their services. All that I can say is what a fucking joke.Eve took the blame.

I don't believe Watson is without blame.

DeskJockey
06-03-22, 08:20
I been there lots of times & so has another board member that I share info with. Basically it's a 7 on the AMP scale. Not cleanest, but by far not filthy either. The attendants aren't the prettiest but if you treat them right you'll get a good massage. The finish usually starts with diy but after a minute they join in. I don't think I've ever had a bad HJ there & it's the only thing on the menu beside maybe a bare breast (yippee) 60+40 maybe more on the tip if it's an exceptional ending. Good luck!I agree with MoonDoggie's review. Julie, the manager, consistently gives a good massage.

Hotrodvfr
06-03-22, 10:37
Eve took the blame.

I don't believe Watson is without blame.A lot of sex workers use massage as a cover. Watson like variety in sex like and looked to professionals to provide that, I won't fault him. Where he messed up is he seemed to assume all masseuses if that's even a word are hooked. They're not. He made play and got rejected. What for the average Joe just may a little embarrassment or at worst a slap to the face turns into million dollar lawsuits because of who he is.

Navritol
06-03-22, 15:26
A lot of sex workers use massage as a cover. Watson like variety in sex like and looked to professionals to provide that, I won't fault him. Where he messed up is he seemed to assume all masseuses if that's even a word are hooked. They're not. He made play and got rejected. What for the average Joe just may a little embarrassment or at worst a slap to the face turns into million dollar lawsuits because of who he is.It is clear that Watson "messed up," as you describe it, because he faces civil law claims from 23 women.

I am skeptical that the details of his "mess up" will reach the public domain.

Watson does not want to let the claims reach an open courtroom at trial.

My hunch is his lawyers are targeting a private, out-of-court settlement with the 23, offering money for silence.

Watson does not want the NFL to get any more details, lest he suffer hugely for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy.

Watson also had the option to not act on his lustful desires.

A man ordinarily has the ability to control his sexual urges.

Someone who aspires to chastity refrains from sexual activity, completely, or in part considered immoral.

You are correct on "masseuses."

A "masseuse" is a woman who provides massage professionally.

The plural form is "masseuses."

Navritol
06-03-22, 19:16
I hope someday I'm smart enough to be able to quote Cicero.You're smart enough.

"Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom. " - Aristotle, polymath.

"Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work. " - Stephen King, author.

LoveAsianWomen
06-05-22, 18:37
Did Aroma permanently close, or just close during Bike week? I had planned on seeing Emily.So I'll answer my own question. Aroma is still open, just saw Emily on Thursday. The shower and massage were average at best, she is a little bit thicker, but has huge tits, she did provide F / S, same price as Warren.

Member #6470
06-07-22, 09:58
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/new-content-new-location-new-o/707689300442

Megan in Willoughby.

Anyone have any experience?

JohnnyMe
06-07-22, 10:42
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/new-content-new-location-new-o/707689300442

Megan in Willoughby.

Anyone have any experience?Had what I thought was going to be HH that turned into a QV with her because she "had to take off". Didn't matter that I hadn't gotten off. Pictures are heavily filtered. She's not a looker and she's a BBW body type.

Member #6297
06-07-22, 11:21
Anyone been here recently? Apparently Wendy isn't there anymore and doesn't sound like Mia is either.

Wakka124
06-07-22, 12:06
So I'll answer my own question. Aroma is still open, just saw Emily on Thursday. The shower and massage were average at best, she is a little bit thicker, but has huge tits, she did provide F / S, same price as Warren.Where is aroma located? Or is there a link?

Member #6192
06-07-22, 12:11
Anyone been here recently? Apparently Wendy isn't there anymore and doesn't sound like Mia is either.Last time I was there Wendy had just left and it was Mia and some old broad who was teaching Mia how to actually give a massage. That was around mid-May. If Mia left I hope they got some other young hot chicks because that other broad was OLD.

SlickMutha
06-07-22, 14:23
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/new-content-new-location-new-o/707689300442

Megan in Willoughby.

Anyone have any experience?Saw her over a year ago.

Not a very good time.

She's not reliable for time either.

A hard pass for me.

MoonDoggie
06-07-22, 15:32
So petty, it's still there, good job basement boy.

OldManBuckeye
06-07-22, 16:17
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/new-content-new-location-new-o/707689300442

Megan in Willoughby.

Anyone have any experience?Don't waste your time. Hard NO for me.

HdRideHer6969
06-07-22, 16:26
Has anyone seen Paige? Just wondering what's available.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/400be745-8ca3-4875-a95e-318be9afb3d3

PintleHook
06-08-22, 12:40
Where is aroma located? Or is there a link?Over in Sandusky.

BBSolo
06-09-22, 10:29
So an AMP is 40, tip is 0-10 for nothing, 40 for normal or 140 all in FS.

When seeing someone like Lorelai or Adrianna.

At the advertised rate 150 etc., is that inclusive of tip or is there an expected tip on top of that? If so how much.

I would not want to do something like way overpay and contribute to price hikes. Yet the independent ladies are somehow more appealing.

Advise appreciated.

One Good Tug
06-09-22, 13:59
So an AMP is 40, tip is 0-10 for nothing, 40 for normal or 140 all in FS.

When seeing someone like Lorelai or Adrianna.

At the advertised rate 150 etc., is that inclusive of tip or is there an expected tip on top of that? If so how much.

I would not want to do something like way overpay and contribute to price hikes. Yet the independent ladies are somehow more appealing.

Advise appreciated.I can't really speak for AMPs around here. But as far as independent providers go, 99% of the time their fee for the hour or 1/2 hour includes a handy no tip necessary (it is the reason why you are seeing them and not a legit LMT someplace else). If you want more then that, most are willing to negotiate a upcharge / tip for an expanded menu. Pricing depends on their mood, comfort level, need etc. Prices range from reasonable to insane.

Tn0121
06-09-22, 16:29
Thanks in advance!

Fuzzyek
06-09-22, 19:11
Thanks in advance!Go to the Hi Spa in Painesville. I had never been before and had a good time. The girl that gave my sensual massage was cute and knew what she was doing. I thought I was going to poke a hole in the massage table. It's located at 1400 Mentor Ave.

MrDo1
06-10-22, 00:07
Go to the Hi Spa in Painesville. I had never been before and had a good time. The girl that gave my sensual massage was cute and knew what she was doing. I thought I was going to poke a hole in the massage table. It's located at 1400 Mentor Ave.Did you catch a name or a description?

Cheech1
06-10-22, 06:08
I recently noticed the place in Eastlake on Lakeshore closed. I don't know if they got busted or just closed for lack of business.

Cheech.

Cobraa99
06-11-22, 06:47
I recently noticed the place in Eastlake on Lakeshore closed. I don't know if they got busted or just closed for lack of business.

Cheech.That place has been closed for over a year.

Boog7227
06-12-22, 10:41
Dreamt of a visit to New Hi in Strongsville. Masseuse was very short and slightly chubby, but still cute. Gave an excellent massage, and the flip was good with very nice C's out for viewing and handling. Typical 60 - 60.

HdRideHer6969
06-13-22, 00:35
Any info would be appreciated.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/cleveland-happiness-with-paige-massage/7493085713.html

Navritol
06-13-22, 10:23
Any info would be appreciated.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/cleveland-happiness-with-paige-massage/7493085713.htmlPic looks too good, in my opinion.

"What's a nice girl like you doing outcall service?

Fuzzyek
06-13-22, 13:25
Pic looks too good, in my opinion.

"What's a nice girl like you doing outcall service?She has been around for years. I haven't seen her but at one time I seriously considered it. It would be nice if they would update their pictures.

Fuzzyek
06-13-22, 14:41
Stopped by there this morning and once again had a good time. The only thing that would make it better would be if you were to get laid after the massage. No I'm not going to go to Warren.

BuckNuts49
06-13-22, 20:05
She has been around for years. I haven't seen her but at one time I seriously considered it. It would be nice if they would update their pictures.She used to advertise on rubratings off an on with the same photo for several years. And she still only offers outcall. No thanks.

BuckNuts49
06-13-22, 20:14
I'm sure most guys on this site remember Karlie from rubratings. She was from California and flew to Cleveland once a month to provide an excellent massage service. As we who saw her knows she has retired and moved on with her life. She recently got married and has had a baby. I am writing this post because I received a text message from her over the weekend. The text contained a site to go to called baby register. Basically asking for gifts from a list of baby needs. LOL!

From what I recall with many conversations with her, she was investing her money wisely. The guy she married was financially well off in real estate. I was quite amazed she was asking for assistance. Wondering how many other former clients of her on here received the same text message.

SR7D1
06-13-22, 21:10
Pic looks too good, in my opinion.

"What's a nice girl like you doing outcall service?She sent a current pic when I asked for it. She looks 0% like that picture. BBW.

Cobraa99
06-14-22, 06:46
I'm sure most guys on this site remember Karlie from rubratings. She was from California and flew to Cleveland once a month to provide an excellent massage service. As we who saw her knows she has retired and moved on with her life. She recently got married and has had a baby. I am writing this post because I received a text message from her over the weekend. The text contained a site to go to called baby register. Basically asking for gifts from a list of baby needs. LOL!

From what I recall with many conversations with her, she was investing her money wisely. The guy she married was financially well off in real estate. I was quite amazed she was asking for assistance. Wondering how many other former clients of her on here received the same text message.I saw her many times when she visited, she was a sweet girl but it's a big hell no as far as sending a gift!. She's retired, goodbye!. Have a good life. If anyone sent her anything I'm sure she would think they were a sucker. Hope nobody actually does this.

Member #6308
06-14-22, 11:32
Any experience with this one? She runs ads on CL and SKG, the latter more explicit. The cell # she uses is not found in search.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/beachwood-relaxation/7496104766.html

CleGuy1999
06-14-22, 13:15
These two are back to back listed and look a little fishy no address or anything. Any feedback?

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/new-girls-every-week440-390-08/641648608032

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/perfect-body440-679-3083new-gi/639464922699

Member #6192
06-14-22, 13:35
These two are back to back listed and look a little fishy no address or anything. Any feedback?

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/new-girls-every-week440-390-08/641648608032

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/perfect-body440-679-3083new-gi/639464922699Not fishy. Travelling Asians recently spoke about in this thread or the escort thread. I believe this is the one on North Royalton but I could be wrong.

CleGuy1999
06-14-22, 13:39
Not fishy. Travelling Asians recently spoke about in this thread or the escort thread. I believe this is the one on North Royalton but I could be wrong.Sorry about that didn't see that one will scroll through and see thanks for the update.

KevinMike
06-14-22, 16:28
Which is better between the two massage parlor on Rt 82 ? King Me or the other one.

Slow Roller
06-14-22, 19:40
Which is better between the two massage parlor on Rt 82 ? King Me or the other one.I only been to King Me once, it sucked and I have never heard anything good about it. I went to the other one last week and got a great massage and a nice he, don't know the girl's name but she was pretty enjoyable.

Cobraa99
06-15-22, 05:54
Stopped by there this morning and once again had a good time. The only thing that would make it better would be if you were to get laid after the massage. No I'm not going to go to Warren.Visited yesterday, there was one SUV parked outside the front door with New York license plates, so I assumed new girls arriving. Well if it was sorry to say very lacking in looks and experience. Standard 60 hr, very disappointed with the massage, the flip she wanted 1. For topless. I don't think so. Standard ending. Was she attractive?. Maybe 4/10. Hopefully she's not a permanent resident.

BudBowl2001
06-15-22, 10:26
Hope she's up to servicing my cock and balls!


Any experience with this one? She runs ads on CL and SKG, the latter more explicit. The cell # she uses is not found in search.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/beachwood-relaxation/7496104766.html

Smith5494
06-15-22, 15:02
I'm sure most guys on this site remember Karlie from rubratings. She was from California and flew to Cleveland once a month to provide an excellent massage service. As we who saw her knows she has retired and moved on with her life. She recently got married and has had a baby. I am writing this post because I received a text message from her over the weekend. The text contained a site to go to called baby register. Basically asking for gifts from a list of baby needs. LOL!

From what I recall with many conversations with her, she was investing her money wisely. The guy she married was financially well off in real estate. I was quite amazed she was asking for assistance. Wondering how many other former clients of her on here received the same text message.Good riddance Karlie or Sophie! Always got shorted. Paid for full hour and she was always texting her other clients or doing some BS to stall. By the time she actually started the massage, at least 15 minutes passed. Of course she rushed me out the door to ready for her next client. Hope no ones actually sends her a gift. But we have dudes on here who send deposits before ever meeting so I wouldn't be surprised.

Navritol
06-15-22, 16:21
Any experience with this one? She runs ads on CL and SKG, the latter more explicit. The cell # she uses is not found in search.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/beachwood-relaxation/7496104766.htmlThis ad comes up using Mr Google for the phone number listed with Mr Craig.

https://www.yesbackpage.com/235/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/4871776--Kitty-213-312-5533-80hh-Special-.html

MrSmith1969
06-16-22, 06:19
Any experience with this one? She runs ads on CL and SKG, the latter more explicit. The cell # she uses is not found in search.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/beachwood-relaxation/7496104766.htmlTOFT.

I won't repeat and some of you may want what she offers. Took about a week to arrange, she quoted me 120 for hour, appointment lasted 36 minutes. She is in the area she claims, has an office and table. Body and looks I'd go a 4/10. I'm guessing she is mid to late 50's.

Massage was lackluster at best although she said she went to school for it. Uses baby oil, no pressure or nothing. Wanted to know if I would come from a HJ? She was naked the entire time, allowed some roaming and begged for a facial which she seemed repulsed by, even tho she work a mask the hole time. Self service for me.

I think one of you's should go see what else is available?

MrSmith1969
06-16-22, 06:38
Massage offering arranged over text. Services were delivered as promised.

I asked for an hour, she assumed sensual, quoted 120. Definitely has a barren office in the area she claims.

I got on the table, she got naked, I'm guessing she is closer to 55 than 30 whatever.

Massage was 2/10.

Body and looks 4/10.

Delivery 3/10.

Won't repeat even though she said more was available for a tip.

Member #6308
06-16-22, 10:16
This ad comes up using Mr Google for the phone number listed with Mr Craig.

https://www.yesbackpage.com/235/posts/8-Adult/122-Female-Escorts/4871776--Kitty-213-312-5533-80hh-Special-.htmlAggregated sources showed up (as it typical). I was concerned with reviews associated with the number shown.

Thanks.

Spaceman7
06-17-22, 04:03
https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093

Has anyone seen yet? I know she ain't the best looking.

Navritol
06-17-22, 12:11
https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093

Has anyone seen yet? I know she ain't the best looking.There have been reports here about her service in the past.

From what I recall, she doesn't provide more than the standard HE.

They also said she talks way too much.

CleGuy1999
06-17-22, 15:30
Says its new but looks like its not anyone have any current. One said did not leave happy from only review I saw on there didnt see it on here.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/cbc250a2-f80f-4980-93e7-5d3cb8bad3ab

SR7D1
06-17-22, 16:46
Says its new but looks like its not anyone have any current. One said did not leave happy from only review I saw on there didnt see it on here.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/cbc250a2-f80f-4980-93e7-5d3cb8bad3abI have had good luck with Temptations. Nuru slide, HE. Others have reported otherwise, as always YMMV.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/bf9f1cff-e902-4dec-a44f-ca00168ddb66

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/355e7e23-2b14-4784-9a5d-07d8d12b7788

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/eba4d35c-5cfc-45b5-ba3e-11067f5f8bae

I have not seen this one but was tempted and talking to her right before rubratings got hacked.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/2487ffd3-0c39-465c-b43b-f11398d050b9

HedonismBot
06-17-22, 18:52
Says its new but looks like its not anyone have any current. One said did not leave happy from only review I saw on there didnt see it on here.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/cbc250a2-f80f-4980-93e7-5d3cb8bad3abI checked it out a few weeks ago and they have a sign at the front desk that says something to the effect of no sexual services being offered. The 60 minute massage was solid but just that. It was my first time in there and I am not much of a talker, perhaps I was not putting out the right vibe.

EL Rey 8
06-17-22, 20:25
Says its new but looks like its not anyone have any current. One said did not leave happy from only review I saw on there didnt see it on here.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/cbc250a2-f80f-4980-93e7-5d3cb8bad3abWent there earlier this week, got 2 girl massage. Both little older one still cute one had skirt on an allowed OTC actually both did bit that was all, going to go again soon for follow up.

Navritol
06-18-22, 00:57
Went there earlier this week, got 2 girl massage. Both little older one still cute one had skirt on an allowed OTC actually both did bit that was all, going to go again soon for follow up.Both "allowed OTC?

Had me stumped.

Finally figured it out.

Over the clothes.

Thanks for the exercise.

Navritol
06-18-22, 01:17
Says its new but looks like its not anyone have any current. One said did not leave happy from only review I saw on there didnt see it on here.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/cbc250a2-f80f-4980-93e7-5d3cb8bad3abThis place in a small plaza in Brunswick has been around for awhile.

The plaza has a dollar store at one end, a print business at the other, and vacancies in between.

I visited there before the pandemic.

Got an excellent massage from an older Asian masseuse.

My neck, shoulders and lower back felt great.

No HE offered but I didn't care.

YMMV.

This current ad is billed "reopening. ".

Said differently, the shop's revenue is down and ownership is looking to drum up business.

JohnnyMe
06-18-22, 09:30
https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093

Has anyone seen yet? I know she ain't the best looking.She used to advertise under Monica. Contacted her once and she made it clear that EVERYTHING was available. Like you said, wasn't thrilled about the looks and got turned off by her response. She followed it up with several texts for about a week "When are you going to cum see me?" Other reviews said she was ok and would do anything for more money.

Member #6308
06-18-22, 10:04
https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093

Has anyone seen yet? I know she ain't the best looking.Don't sweat others' opinions on looks. I ignore comments based on looks alone. I've had great times with traditionally "unattractive" ladies. I'd see her if the reviews are good!

Following.

NewGuy25
06-18-22, 11:42
Good Afternoon Gents.

I will visiting Cleveland this upcoming week for work and will be staying at a downtown Hotel. I was wondering if anyone had any Non-Asian Massage Therapists that do outcalls to the hotel with table (or bed if needed). I can offer any info from my home area if you are ever traveling. I have done some research but most seem sketchy or fake Thank you and stay safe!

EL Rey 8
06-18-22, 14:14
Both "allowed OTC?

Had me stumped.

Finally figured it out.

Over the clothes.

Thanks for the exercise.No problem LOL as was saying before the one in the tiny leather skirt let me go all up in but no HE offered.

BlackTieDom
06-18-22, 17:01
They had one that was there for short time did great massage ending was ok. Have you tried 130th? I haven't yet.W130 is good, so is Asian Town. I don't think w130 will be around long, it is too busy and every time I go there is a USPS truck sitting outside with a guy watching people going in an out. Maybe he just likes watching people go there, IDK. But get there while you can.

Wind2683
06-18-22, 17:13
Anyone try out the place in North Madison off hubbard? Or any others recommendations out east other than the two spots in Painesville?

Bluesimp5891
06-19-22, 10:30
Gentlemen,

I had a dream that I visited Dakota not too long ago. I've seen her before, always professional, always delivers quality service. I received a 2 hour rub, which was great, and an hour of edging. The service was $20 plus $10 tip. This was a pricey experience, but I would repeat.

DiscreetKing19
06-19-22, 14:33
Has anyone seen her she seems a little to good to be true.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/4f3fcc03-13cd-4cdd-98f2-8826d0b69062

Rafter17
06-19-22, 16:09
Gentlemen,

I had a dream that I visited Dakota not too long ago. I've seen her before, always professional, always delivers quality service. I received a 2 hour rub, which was great, and an hour of edging. The service was $20 plus $10 tip. This was a pricey experience, but I would repeat.Do you have a link to her ad?

SR7D1
06-19-22, 16:57
Has anyone seen her she seems a little to good to be true.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/4f3fcc03-13cd-4cdd-98f2-8826d0b69062Search the escort and 250 thread under Courtney and Kourtney.

SR7D1
06-19-22, 16:58
Gentlemen,

I had a dream that I visited Dakota not too long ago. I've seen her before, always professional, always delivers quality service. I received a 2 hour rub, which was great, and an hour of edging. The service was $20 plus $10 tip. This was a pricey experience, but I would repeat.Dakota is the black BBW, right?

DTorrent
06-20-22, 01:20
Says its new but looks like its not anyone have any current. One said did not leave happy from only review I saw on there didnt see it on here.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/cbc250a2-f80f-4980-93e7-5d3cb8bad3abI have been there multiple times and nothing offered. They harassed me for tip after nothing. Maybe I don't have the vibe, but f this place.

CleGuy1999
06-20-22, 07:29
W130 is good, so is Asian Town. I don't think w130 will be around long, it is too busy and every time I go there is a USPS truck sitting outside with a guy watching people going in an out. Maybe he just likes watching people go there, IDK. But get there while you can.Asian mall was older lady not great anywhere else down there?

Navritol
06-20-22, 11:34
W130 is good, so is Asian Town. I don't think w130 will be around long, it is too busy and every time I go there is a USPS truck sitting outside with a guy watching people going in an out. Maybe he just likes watching people go there, IDK. But get there while you can.I recently saw a USPS package delivery vehicle sitting in the distance of the parking lot.

Fuzzyek
06-20-22, 12:06
Noticed a lot of chatter about her but nothing really useful. I am going to give her a shot this afternoon and see how it works out. She sounds like a nice person through texting, and her location and setup looks very professional.

Navritol
06-20-22, 19:27
I have been there multiple times and nothing offered. They harassed me for tip after nothing. Maybe I don't have the vibe, but f this place.Nothing wrong with your "vibe. ".

The tip harassment is one of the down sides of AMPs.

More likely than not you'll experience it.

Klose94
06-21-22, 00:35
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/lux-body-spa-limited-your-new/320419939576

Anyone try this place or any info about her massage, offer extra for.

BlackTieDom
06-21-22, 08:08
Asian mall was older lady not great anywhere else down there?You must have had a different person than I had at the mall. Mine was in her 30's with big tits. But I don't remember her name and didn't review on rubmaps.

W130th IMHO is the best around while it lasts. Especially if you get CiCi / SheShe (she said her name differently).

BlackTieDom
06-21-22, 08:14
I recently saw a USPS package delivery vehicle sitting in the distance of the parking lot.Yeah, he parks in the back of the parking lot and faces the door by backing into the parking spot. It is odd the first time, but when he is there multiple times.

BBSolo
06-21-22, 09:41
I know I've seen that face under another name in the past.

I'm not good at google searching images but I'm sure someone will recall.


https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/lux-body-spa-limited-your-new/320419939576

Anyone try this place or any info about her massage, offer extra for.

AsainLuv
06-21-22, 11:03
I know I've seen that face under another name in the past.

I'm not good at google searching images but I'm sure someone will recall.Lame massage at beast, bikini at best, no touching. At least that was what she was like when I saw her pre covid. One and done.

Boog7227
06-21-22, 12:35
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/lux-body-spa-limited-your-new/320419939576

Anyone try this place or any info about her massage, offer extra for.She's posted many, many ads over the years as Leah. Unfortunately, the value proposition with her is rather poor (E. G, real-life looks vs. Pics, cost vs. Deliverables, etc.), and as such, I would not recommend. For a better dollar-to-value experience, I would recommend someone like Carolina instead.

JohnnyMe
06-21-22, 13:31
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/lux-body-spa-limited-your-new/320419939576

Anyone try this place or any info about her massage, offer extra for.She used to go by Leah. Horrible massage. Everything is available, but anything is an upcharge. The price she quotes is for a massage with her clothes on. Avoid.

SR7D1
06-21-22, 13:57
She used to go by Leah. Horrible massage. Everything is available, but anything is an upcharge. The price she quotes is for a massage with her clothes on. Avoid.Agreed x2.

Dirtydave1
06-21-22, 18:07
Anyone try out the place in North Madison off hubbard? Or any others recommendations out east other than the two spots in Painesville?Based on two experiences there, the massage is pretty good (comparable in quality to my handful of trips to QQ in Painesville), only difference is that the ending is self service.

My lone experience at the other Painesville place was awful. Just rushed and scammy. Would love some recommendations out this way myself. Kinda slim pickings out this way on all fronts of the hobby.

BDingas
06-22-22, 15:21
She's posted many, many ads over the years as Leah. Unfortunately, the value proposition with her is rather poor (E. G, real-life looks vs. Pics, cost vs. Deliverables, etc.), and as such, I would not recommend. For a better dollar-to-value experience, I would recommend someone like Carolina instead.Does carolina offer same service as nikko who eorks out of same location?

RavensBurg
06-22-22, 21:47
You must have had a different person than I had at the mall. Mine was in her 30's with big tits. But I don't remember her name and didn't review on rubmaps.

W130th IMHO is the best around while it lasts. Especially if you get CiCi / SheShe (she said her name differently).Saw Cici today. She provides a good massage with some very good teasing (although too brief). Lifted her shirt up on the flip to reveal some very nice man mades. Her tip rates are as follows, 60 for topless, 80 for topless with tit sucking, 100 for completely naked. No Oral or FS. She jerked me off once then massaged be some more before allowing me a second DIY pop with ball play. Would repeat. 120 total damage for the hour.

Boog7227
06-25-22, 09:43
Does carolina offer same service as nikko who eorks out of same location?I've only visited with Carolina and have never seen Nikko, or anyone else working out of that location, so I unfortunately don't know if they offer similar services and pricing.

EmptyCup
06-25-22, 14:02
Maybe save someone else a wasted trip. Crystal Foot Spa on Cooper Foster in Lorain is closed for remodeling. Ads are up and running.

Member #6192
06-25-22, 15:00
Maybe save someone else a wasted trip. Crystal Foot Spa on Cooper Foster in Lorain is closed for remodeling. Ads are up and running.Thanks for the heads up. Maybe they're installing a TS and a two-door entry and turn this joint into an FS place. A boy can dream.

GoCavsGo
06-25-22, 19:25
I cannot honestly say because all that I was interested in was a decent HJ. I seriously doubt you will get anything close to what you get in Warren.How do the girls in Warren compare in looks to the local girls? I haven't been to Warren in forever so if I'm making that drive it needs to be worth it!

SlickMutha
06-26-22, 05:35
Does carolina offer same service as nikko who eorks out of same location?Stay away from Nikko.

BIG girl w / MASSIVE GPS (for non-FS).

BlackTieDom
06-26-22, 08:01
Saw Cici today. She provides a good massage with some very good teasing (although too brief). Lifted her shirt up on the flip to reveal some very nice man mades. Her tip rates are as follows, 60 for topless, 80 for topless with tit sucking, 100 for completely naked. No Oral or FS. She jerked me off once then massaged be some more before allowing me a second DIY pop with ball play. Would repeat. 120 total damage for the hour.Sounds about right. If she remembers you, it get a little better but no FS. For example, she goes topless from the start, FIP, etc. I asked about their preference between 1/2 hr and 1 hr. She said she prefers 1/2 hr on Fridays because they are so busy but the least busy day is Sunday. She does like playing with balls. Even when the massage is done and she helps you get dressed (which I actually don't like), she keeps playing with your balls. Stay trimmed.

Member #6192
06-26-22, 13:45
Hadn't been there for a while so figured I'd give it a go again. Feel like this place has gone downhill. The providers are just not good at massage or anything else. At least they weren't trying to hit me up for more tips. Need some new young adventurous talent.

AnimalCookie
06-27-22, 23:31
Drove by there today looking for the USPS truck that had been reported by a few in the past as being there with a guy sitting inside. It was about 7 pm, and no USPS truck. There was a white SUV parked directly in front of the location door, backed in, with a sun shade in the front window, but that was the extent of any that looked out of place. I didn’t look inside to see if there was anyone there or cameras present.

Navritol
06-28-22, 00:17
Drove by there today looking for the USPS truck that had been reported by a few in the past as being there with a guy sitting inside. It was about 7 pm, and no USPS truck. There was a white SUV parked directly in front of the location door, backed in, with a sun shade in the front window, but that was the extent of any that looked out of place. I didnt look inside to see if there was anyone there or cameras present.A USPS truck wouldn't be there at 7 pm.

They're off the clock by then.

The truck in question has been seen there between 11 am and 2 pm.

Nothing "out of place" about a white SUV in front of the door.

There's almost always two or three cars parked in front of the shop.

TexasFox
06-28-22, 01:14
Hadn't been there for a while so figured I'd give it a go again. Feel like this place has gone downhill. The providers are just not good at massage or anything else. At least they weren't trying to hit me up for more tips. Need some new young adventurous talent.Once Anna left the place sucked.

BlackTieDom
06-28-22, 07:09
How do the girls in Warren compare in looks to the local girls? I haven't been to Warren in forever so if I'm making that drive it needs to be worth it!My only experience in Warren is Candy at Tiger. Candy is good looking. Cici at w130 is a beautiful. But the offerings are completely different. If you are going out to Warren, you are okay with "looks pretty good" because that isn't what you are there for. If the question is, "are they fat hags?" The answer is "no". They look better than most FS providers in Cleveland.

MoonDoggie
06-28-22, 08:31
Yes & more.

Pm, if I know you I'll fill you in on location & rate.

Member #6192
06-28-22, 10:08
Once Anna left the place sucked.You obviously had never met Wendy.

BDingas
06-28-22, 14:42
Always try every once in a while. Always no response she still around? Maybe I got blocked or something? Last resort have been heading out to warren AMP as they are reliable but far.

Yafux
06-28-22, 14:56
Stay away from Nikko.

BIG girl w / MASSIVE GPS (for non-FS).I concur. She quoted me $500 for BBFS.

OldManBuckeye
06-28-22, 19:59
Always try every once in a while. Always no response she still around? Maybe I got blocked or something? Last resort have been heading out to warren AMP as they are reliable but far.It's not just you, she doesn't respond to me either. Haven't heard from her since her so called vacation. She still has a post on Adult look.

HedonismBot
06-28-22, 20:21
Tried out the Era Spa a few weeks back. The location is pretty indiscreet, close to the street and small (only seemed to be two rooms and a lobby) and there were two cars in the lot which meant they were "pretty busy. " I wanted an hour but was talked down to half hour for this reason for $40. The masseuse seemed to be late 30's / early 40's and somewhat thin. The massage was decent but was interrupted by a new guest who was told to wait for one hour and was sitting in a car outside when I departed, so I guess this place is having staffing problems like almost everywhere else. When she came back, the massage continued and on the flip was a standard HE with no negotiating, and I did not roam much. Did not realize until after the door was open a crack for the entire second half of the massage. Well anyway, another $40 and I left. Not a great experience but ended well enough, the location being so out in the open makes me a little leery about a return visit.

Navritol
06-29-22, 10:46
It's not just you, she doesn't respond to me either. Haven't heard from her since her so called vacation. She still has a post on Adult look.I originally suggested she was "on vacation," and I still believe that's her status.

Allow me to explain.

Her history is that she's operated out of two office buildings in the same suburb.

Both addresses were broadcast here, and her reviews were extravagantly favorable.

Too much of a good thing can result in unwanted attention.

After the first instance, she moved to her present office.

She's hanging in there for the moment.

Perhaps she's not keen on breaking the lease.

But she's reduced the clientele she's servicing to regulars whom she trusts.

She does not want to attract too much attention in a building that has an abundance of traffic.

"Vacation" is a period of time when ordinary activity is either suspended, in part or entirely.

As I recall, only one monger here reported that she's "not on vacation. ".

Yet there have been multiple reports of enthusiasts who don't get her return calls.

My hunch is the "not on vacation" report is from one of one of her trusted regulars.

She's not replying to requests for appointment from anyone other than her compadres.

Said differently, she's not accepting new clients or those previously seen but not trusted well enough.

If someone else has a better explanation, have at it.

CleGuy1999
06-29-22, 17:40
There was white suv with 5% windows that was parked across from entrance can't see in and seems odd. Not for me good luck everyone.


A USPS truck wouldn't be there at 7 pm.

They're off the clock by then.

The truck in question has been seen there between 11 am and 2 pm.

Nothing "out of place" about a white SUV in front of the door.

There's almost always two or three cars parked in front of the shop.

CleGuy1999
06-29-22, 17:41
Tried out the Era Spa a few weeks back. The location is pretty indiscreet, close to the street and small (only seemed to be two rooms and a lobby) and there were two cars in the lot which meant they were "pretty busy. " I wanted an hour but was talked down to half hour for this reason for $40. The masseuse seemed to be late 30's / early 40's and somewhat thin. The massage was decent but was interrupted by a new guest who was told to wait for one hour and was sitting in a car outside when I departed, so I guess this place is having staffing problems like almost everywhere else. When she came back, the massage continued and on the flip was a standard HE with no negotiating, and I did not roam much. Did not realize until after the door was open a crack for the entire second half of the massage. Well anyway, another $40 and I left. Not a great experience but ended well enough, the location being so out in the open makes me a little leery about a return visit.Same exact thing good report.

Navritol
06-29-22, 18:12
There was white suv with 5% windows that was parked across from entrance can't see in and seems odd. Not for me good luck everyone.That's your choice.

I'm avoiding the place as well, but for other reasons.

Klose94
07-02-22, 23:34
Anyone have info this massage, you guys know where location and name thanks.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/b6a467b6-c89b-478c-910f-01e860fde2f9

Navritol
07-03-22, 11:30
Anyone have info this massage, you guys know where location and name thanks.

https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/b6a467b6-c89b-478c-910f-01e860fde2f9The place is you-Spa on Brookpark Road in North Olmsted.

Have not visited.

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-u-spa-north-olmsted-oh-127895#rubmaps.

MoonDoggie
07-04-22, 09:34
The place is you-Spa on Brookpark Road in North Olmsted.

Have not visited.

https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-u-spa-north-olmsted-oh-127895#rubmaps.Correct spelling is you Spa on Brookpark extension. There are three AMPs connected: 1) Lakewood 2) North Olmsted 3) Elyria. You can see the attendants rotate between the different locations. Service is usually good if you go when they're not busy weekday early afternoons. Been to all many times, finish is as expected with your min tip $40. Hoping Wendy / Tina will circle back!

Painchaud
07-04-22, 17:44
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CleFun
07-04-22, 20:21
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/gia/47619475

ThrobbinWood
07-04-22, 22:05
Correct spelling is you Spa on Brookpark extension. There are three AMPs connected: 1) Lakewood 2) North Olmsted 3) Elyria. You can see the attendants rotate between the different locations. Service is usually good if you go when they're not busy weekday early afternoons. Been to all many times, finish is as expected with your min tip $40. Hoping Wendy / Tina will circle back!You Spa is the google verified spelling. No dashes and no additional letters as in the pronoun you. I am guessing speech to text is the reason you gets shown.

Member #6192
07-04-22, 22:37
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/gia/47619475Gia used to have very favorable reviews on RubRatings before it went away. That's all I can really say as I have never partook.

ThrobbinWood
07-05-22, 08:45
You Spa is the google verified spelling. No dashes and no additional letters as in the pronoun you. I am guessing speech to text is the reason you gets shown.My post was automatically corrected to change the single letter to the three letter word "you" The spa in question is a single letter then the word spa "you Spa" If this shows as "you spa" it self corrected again.

TexasFox
07-05-22, 10:06
My post was automatically corrected to change the single letter to the three letter word "you" The spa in question is a single letter then the word spa "you Spa" If this shows as "you spa" it self corrected again.It's not been good since the Florida girls left.

BudBowl2001
07-05-22, 10:12
Instead of voice to text. Look. You spa.


My post was automatically corrected to change the single letter to the three letter word "you" The spa in question is a single letter then the word spa "you Spa" If this shows as "you spa" it self corrected again.

Painchaud
07-05-22, 11:18
Instead of voice to text. Look. You spa.It has nothing to do with "voice to text."

I believe it's the website's software that changes the upper case letter you to the word you.

Testing:

You spa.

See this website for the correct spelling and the address in and Olmsted.

https://www.bestprosintown.com/oh/north-olmsted/herbal-therapy-/

It is not that difficult!

StingerDouble
07-05-22, 11:39
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/gia/47619475She's nice, pretty hot, standard HJ finish. Nothing more available. Not bad but on the speedy side.

Tom Mubbles
07-05-22, 11:49
She's nice, pretty hot, standard HJ finish. Nothing more available. Not bad but on the speedy side.I saw her last Feb and guru with DATY and BBBJ was on the table. Fun time. Hope her menu hasn't gotten more restricted.

BuckNuts49
07-05-22, 11:53
She's nice, pretty hot, standard HJ finish. Nothing more available. Not bad but on the speedy side.Thanks for the review. Only question is. Was she naked and how much touching did she allow?

EmptyCup
07-05-22, 12:44
Correct spelling is you Spa on Brookpark extension. There are three AMPs connected: 1) Lakewood 2) North Olmsted 3) Elyria. You can see the attendants rotate between the different locations. Service is usually good if you go when they're not busy weekday early afternoons. Been to all many times, finish is as expected with your min tip $40. Hoping Wendy / Tina will circle back!I called just to see who was working. To see if anyone new. Think this was the second time I've ever called. Usually just go and see. Anyway after I asked who was working lady got all excited and said "Wendy is not coming back. She has a very wealthy man taking care of her now". I laughed and said I asked who's working not if Wendy is coming back. She never told me who was working. Said just coming on and see. I didn't go. Had a feeling if phone call was that bad massage wouldn't be any better. I'm guessing they get alot of calls for Wendy still LOL.

NorthCostGuy
07-05-22, 14:39
Gia was one of my all time favorite. Full body to body rub, lots of teasing, her tongue in my ear and she was amazing at talking dirty. But I'd call today for tomorrow and she agreed, then ghosted me the next day. Did this about three times and I gave up. Maybe it's me.


https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/gia/47619475

CleFun
07-05-22, 17:33
https://www.rubrankings.com/Body-Rubs/nuru-relaxation-pampering-at-it%ef%be%92s-finest/

WoolfMan
07-05-22, 19:01
Thanks for the review. Only question is. Was she naked and how much touching did she allow?She's got multiple reviews on TER 338392, as recently as April this year. I seen her couple years back. North of 480, west side. Nice time, can't remember nude or mostly. Massage and rubbed pussy on Jr.

I was handed off to her from Aubrey (lucky me!

DaveTheLoose
07-05-22, 19:10
https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093

I saw Monica the other day. Everything was easy to set up. Good communication. Safe office location. Friendly, sane person who puts you at ease. Better than average HJ. But she's an older woman with an older woman's body. And she gets naked during the session. So if that's not your thing, you've been forewarned.

HedonismBot
07-05-22, 19:16
W 130 is my go-to when in need for a massage, but the white SUV that is always there got into my head a little bit so I kept heading into Strongsville to Healing Hanos this holiday weekend. It was early so no one else was there yet and it took a minute to be greeted by a typical masseuse: probably 40's, not fat but not particularly fit either, virtually no English. Got an hour and the massage was competent though interrupted several times by cell phone notifications. Once I turned over, she gestured to finish the massage and said $40 was not enough. $60 would get handshake and roaming and clothes off would have been extra when more hand signals came for for money up front. An overpay in my opinion and while the massage was above average, I am not sure I would repeat.

ThrobbinWood
07-05-22, 21:50
She's got multiple reviews on TER 338392, as recently as April this year. I seen her couple years back. North of 480, west side. Nice time, can't remember nude or mostly. Massage and rubbed pussy on Jr.

I was handed off to her from Aubrey (lucky me!It is hard to tell that the TER picture are the same person as the more current ones. The current pictures have been around a while maybe 5 years so the TER pics must be 20 years old at least.

Navritol
07-05-22, 22:48
. . . It was early so no one else was there yet and it took a minute to be greeted by a typical masseuse: probably 40's, not fat but not particularly fit either, virtually no English. Got an hour and the massage was competent though interrupted several times by cell phone notifications. Once I turned over, she gestured to finish the massage and said $40 was not enough. $60 would get handshake and roaming and clothes off would have been extra when more hand signals came for for money up front. An overpay in my opinion and while the massage was above average, I am not sure I would repeat.Sixty is the standard.

I saw one earlier this year who took forty without any haggling.

Her skill with the ending was excellent as well.

I've never seen the same one on a follow up visit.

The local AMPs are always a roll of the dice.

MoonDoggie
07-06-22, 08:05
My post was automatically corrected to change the single letter to the three letter word "you" The spa in question is a single letter then the word spa "you Spa" If this shows as "you spa" it self corrected again.Did the same to my post. No stress.

LoveSixNine
07-08-22, 08:56
I thought you guys were being paranoid with the white suv reports. Yesterday I pulled in and was about to exit my car to enter the spa and seen a guy walk from another black van parked nearby, did something in the suv that took about a minute and then left. Glad I didn't go in. I just split.

Tom Mubbles
07-08-22, 10:54
It is hard to tell that the TER picture are the same person as the more current ones. The current pictures have been around a while maybe 5 years so the TER pics must be 20 years old at least.When I saw her in Feb she had a tight little body and a pretty face. FWIW I'm extremely picky when it comes to weight / fat chicks and extra weight a huge turn off for me. Fat arms or a gut especially. She looked good.

JohnnyMe
07-08-22, 12:40
I see that Tiffany is back. Photos aren't her and it is just a lame massage, fully clothed with no hint of any extras.

https://akron-canton.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/blissful-escapes-with-tiffany/431150792403

Painchaud
07-08-22, 13:35
I thought you guys were being paranoid with the white suv reports. Yesterday I pulled in and was about to exit my car to enter the spa and seen a guy walk from another black van parked nearby, did something in the suv that took about a minute and then left. Glad I didn't go in. I just split.The reports of that white SUV and now black van remind me of the original Mission Impossible TV series (1966).

Peter Lupus was the actor who always drove the large van with all the electronic gear and other gadgets.

The series was ahead of its time, for those of you who may remember it.

LE had installed a surreptitious camera in the Florida AMP that was used to bust NE Patriots owner Robert Kraft and others.

A Florida court threw out the resulting video.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/robert-kraft-massage-parlor-arrest-sex-worker-fined-1098303/

There is a vacant store front or two in that strip.

Would be funny if the vehicles in question belonged to plumbers or electricians doing work for the plaza's owner.

WoolfMan
07-08-22, 16:45
When I saw her in Feb she had a tight little body and a pretty face. FWIW I'm extremely picky when it comes to weight / fat chicks and extra weight a huge turn off for me. Fat arms or a gut especially. She looked good.Her voice takes some getting used to. But that's not why we go!

Spaceman7
07-08-22, 20:17
https://rubmd.com/cleveland-oh/e0575778-23ae-4b1a-8b23-ce8389a08093

I saw Monica the other day. Everything was easy to set up. Good communication. Safe office location. Friendly, sane person who puts you at ease. Better than average HJ. But she's an older woman with an older woman's body. And she gets naked during the session. So if that's not your thing, you've been forewarned.Did you tip her or was everything one price?

DaveTheLoose
07-09-22, 11:32
Did you tip her or was everything one price?I always tip. But she was unusual in that she didn't even ask for ANY money up front, and this was my first time seeing her.

EmptyCup
07-12-22, 09:42
Glad someone else called bullshit on this. Dude tries shaming me for low tip on poor service. Then tells others just ignore what you see and your gut feeling. References a Florida situation as a setup when we live in NE Ohio and 2019 had 13 places closed. Place in Elyria lasted only a few weeks and busted. Last year North Olmsted had one closed neighbors complained. I totally agree. The police do have the time and they count on stupid people to make their job easier. Trust your eyes and your gut.

LoveSixNine
07-12-22, 12:21
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/newly-arrivedbest-serviceasian/215530689686

https://www.yelp.com/biz/flexology-willowick
The Florida bust was A set up. You people are paranoid as fuck. No one in law enforcement gives a shit if your being jacked off in a shop. Think about it. What could they even do if the police walked in. You're getting a massage. Thousands of people do everyday. If you are scanning the parking lot for cars you need a new hobby. I'm not even believing what I'm reading. Pull up. Go in. Pay your money and forget about it. I guess stupid is as stupid does. Like someone has time to stake out a shithole AMP.Hey, I maybe paranoid but I'm still going in lmao.

AthJun
07-13-22, 17:17
Glad someone else called bullshit on this. Dude tries shaming me for low tip on poor service. Then tells others just ignore what you see and your gut feeling. References a Florida situation as a setup when we live in NE Ohio and 2019 had 13 places closed. Place in Elyria lasted only a few weeks and busted. Last year North Olmsted had one closed neighbors complained. I totally agree. The police do have the time and they count on stupid people to make their job easier. Trust your eyes and your gut.Exactly! The Florida thing with Robert Kraft was indeed a set-up, but it worked, and he was certainly embarrassed. As for Ohio, we have a very committed and well funded commission to deal with human trafficking. We can argue the particulars all we want, but we shouldn't pretend that we're being safe in doing anything illegal in an AMP. These places are now really hot. I'm all for being paranoid at this time. LE is definitely interested in these places, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.

TexasFox
07-13-22, 18:46
Exactly! The Florida thing with Robert Kraft was indeed a set-up, but it worked, and he was certainly embarrassed. As for Ohio, we have a very committed and well funded commission to deal with human trafficking. We can argue the particulars all we want, but we shouldn't pretend that we're being safe in doing anything illegal in an AMP. These places are now really hot. I'm all for being paranoid at this time. LE is definitely interested in these places, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.I guess my point is. How is getting a hand job and massage any different from a haircut and shave. No Chinese shop will ever install a camera. No Chinese lady will ever go undercover. No guest ever gets arrested. Honestly I've never even considered being harassed by LE. Human trafficking is for the ladies. Not the men guests. Kraft was the fall guy as they were after the shop owner for other reasons. It just made better headlines. And Kraft doesn't give a fuck about the publicity. Neither would I. Massage is not a crime. Life is short. Fuck those wanting to make news about such a minimal situation. And not one lady who works is chained to the floor. So human trafficking is the biggest farce in AMP history.

SuStar
07-13-22, 21:43
How is getting a hand job and massage any different from a haircut and shave.A haircut or a massage are both activities licensed by the State of Ohio.

A "hand job" is a prohibited activity.

Ohio Revised Code section 503.42 (D) states as follows:

(D) No person employed in a massage establishment located in the unincorporated area of the township shall knowingly do any of the following in the performance of duties at the massage establishment:

(1) Place his or her hand upon, touch with any part of his or her body, fondle in any manner, or massage the sexual or genital area of any other person.

(2) Perform, offer, or agree to perform any act which would require the touching of the sexual or genital area of any other person.

(3) Touch, offer, or agree to touch the sexual or genital area of any other person with any mechanical or electrical apparatus or appliance.

(4) Wear unclean clothing, no clothing, transparent clothing, or clothing that otherwise reveals the sexual or genital areas of the masseur or masseuse.

(5) Uncover or allow the sexual or genital area of any other person to be uncovered while providing massages.


No Chinese shop will ever install a camera. No Chinese lady will ever go undercover. No guest ever gets arrested.Ohio Revised Code section 503.42 (C)(2) states as follows:

(C) No owner or operator of a massage establishment located in the unincorporated areas of the township shall knowingly do any of the following:

(2) Refuse to allow appropriate state or local authorities, including police officers, access to the massage establishment for any health or safety inspection conducted pursuant to a regulation adopted by the township under section 503.41 of the Revised Code.

Nothing prevents local authorities from installing a surreptitious surveillance camera inside an AMP during the aforementioned inspection.


Human trafficking is for the ladies. Not the men guests. Kraft was the fall guy as they were after the shop owner for other reasons.If Kraft was a fall guy, there's no reason to believe an ordinary bloke visiting an AMP in Ohio couldn't be one, too.


And Kraft doesn't give a fuck about the publicity.Kraft paid big fees for defense lawyers to beat the charges.

If he had been convicted, he could have been forced out of NFL ownership through the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy.


Massage is not a crime.Massage of certain body parts is a crime in Ohio.

See Ohio Revised Code section 503.42 (D) quoted earlier in this post.


And not one lady who works is chained to the floor.Coercion is not limited to getting chained to the floor.

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/what-is-coercion-law.html


So human trafficking is the biggest farce in AMP history.Ignorance is bliss.

A large portion of hate and prejudice are born from willful ignorance.

https://www.state.gov/what-is-trafficking-in-persons/

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/human-trafficking-statistics-by-state

https://www.statista.com/statistics/459637/number-of-victims-identified-related-to-labor-trafficking-worldwide/

JustAverageJoe
07-14-22, 06:05
We don't need a state of the union address take all the political rants to another board. This site is to report about your experience's. I for one don't care if there's a car or van parked outside if there's a sting going on your going to be part of the bust. If your paranoid don't go in but in the same token I could care less to hear about it. Everyone's time comes around if your not careful if your afraid of being caught then get the HELL out of the game, there's no set rules on how this games played. It comes down to common sense. So if you can't pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heal maybe you shouldn't be in the game. RANT OVER!

SuStar
07-14-22, 07:04
We don't need a state of the union address take all the political rants to another board. This site is to report about your experience's. I for one don't care if there's a car or van parked outside if there's a sting going on your going to be part of the bust. If your paranoid don't go in but in the same token I could care less to hear about it. Everyone's time comes around if your not careful if your afraid of being caught then get the HELL out of the game, there's no set rules on how this games played. It comes down to common sense. So if you can't pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heal maybe you shouldn't be in the game. RANT OVER!The legal environment in which the hobby is practiced is part of the game.

The more a hobbyist knows the law, the better he is prepared to play safely.

Participating in the hobby blindly is what gets most into trouble.

Discussion of the law as it relates to the hobby belongs on every board.

If you don't care for it, then don't read it.

JustAverageJoe
07-14-22, 12:10
The legal environment in which the hobby is practiced is part of the game.

The more a hobbyist knows the law, the better he is prepared to play safely.

Participating in the hobby blindly is what gets most into trouble.

Discussion of the law as it relates to the hobby belongs on every board.

If you don't care for it, then don't read it.I have no problem with the post but it should be posted in the legal and issues strategies section rather the massage parlor reports. I mean I'm not going to street walker reports to find out about strip clubs. Just keep it in the proper forum and then you won't have to worry about me reading it.

SuStar
07-15-22, 01:23
I have no problem with the post but it should be posted in the legal and issues strategies section rather the massage parlor reports. I mean I'm not going to street walker reports to find out about strip clubs. Just keep it in the proper forum and then you won't have to worry about me reading it.The post is a follow-up reply to misinformation about a hand job in an AMP as the legal equivalent of a haircut.

Posting it singularly in a legal strategies section isn't always practical nor effective.

One can find crossover of topics in almost every section.

Thank you for your consideration.

Mmiikkeessmm
07-15-22, 11:13
Hi all,

I am looking for someone on the east side (Asian / UTR / whatever) that can provide a massage via walk-in or last minute appt. I woke up today and my back is an absolute mess. I normally also have a therapeutic (IE no extras 100% legit) I go to but she is booked solid for the next 2 weeks. I need to see someone today. Extras are definitely nice and preferred but not mandatory.

If it is one of the Asian places on the east side please provide to me the provider's name so I can ask for her. I would love a UTR but I know those are few and far between so Asian or anyone else is fine. Just hoping someone will share someone they had a very good experience with l that also came with a very good, not wimpy or half-assed, massage. *Crossing Fingers* as I am miserable today.

Thank you in advance and feel free to pm info. If you pm me lmk if any extras are on the menu as I'd they are not I do not want to make advances and piss her off and potentially end in trouble. This is a legit request FYI.

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07-16-22, 14:58
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SR7D1
07-17-22, 07:18
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sexxxxy-slip-n-slide/863265895982

Anyone partake yet?

JohnnyMe
07-17-22, 09:39
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sexxxxy-slip-n-slide/863265895982

Anyone partake yet?That is Lauryn and she is definitely worth a visit! I used to see her regularly but she took time off during the pandemic and is only back occasionally now. Beautiful woman who is a whole lot of fun.

SR7D1
07-17-22, 12:47
That is Lauryn and she is definitely worth a visit! I used to see her regularly but she took time off during the pandemic and is only back occasionally now. Beautiful woman who is a whole lot of fun.Johnny, care to share a little more detail? Slim, thick, young, old, pic accurate, what kind of service, FS, BBBJ ect? Or if you prefer, you can PM.

ForeverYoung04
07-17-22, 13:35
I keep seeing these ads pop up on STG. Some with 440 numbers, some without. Some with an address, some without. Has anyone inquired into these? I smell setup but just wondering. I would think it's rare to see an address listed alongside but who knows.

Examples.

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/perfect-body440-212-2201new-gi/571910671765

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/440-420-1625hey-guysbbbj69gefa/620380752658

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/new-girls-every-week440-390-08/178502757975

SR7D1
07-17-22, 14:17
I keep seeing these ads pop up on STG. Some with 440 numbers, some without. Some with an address, some without. Has anyone inquired into these? I smell setup but just wondering. I would think it's rare to see an address listed alongside but who knows.

Examples.

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/perfect-body440-212-2201new-gi/571910671765

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/440-420-1625hey-guysbbbj69gefa/620380752658

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/new-girls-every-week440-390-08/178502757975Blue Spa is a massage parlor and legit, been reported on here.

Not sure about the other 2 but traveling Asians roll through all the time. Some cute, some not.

Dtapper
07-17-22, 14:41
I'm hesitant to post this, so don't tell her about this post.

Wendy formally of Elyria then Lakewood who left, I text with. She told me she's back working at Pro Spa in Wooster.

I saw her last week. Was nice seeing her.

There is another Wendy in Grafton that I like.

Wakka124
07-18-22, 08:02
Blue Spa is a massage parlor and legit, been reported on here.

Not sure about the other 2 but traveling Asians roll through all the time. Some cute, some not.You know any traveling Asians that are legit?

Member #6470
07-18-22, 09:15
Hi all,

I am looking for someone on the east side (Asian / UTR / whatever) that can provide a massage via walk-in or last minute appt. I woke up today and my back is an absolute mess. I normally also have a therapeutic (IE no extras 100% legit) I go to but she is booked solid for the next 2 weeks. I need to see someone today. Extras are definitely nice and preferred but not mandatory.

If it is one of the Asian places on the east side please provide to me the provider's name so I can ask for her. I would love a UTR but I know those are few and far between so Asian or anyone else is fine. Just hoping someone will share someone they had a very good experience with l that also came with a very good, not wimpy or half-assed, massage. *Crossing Fingers* as I am miserable today.

Thank you in advance and feel free to pm info. If you pm me lmk if any extras are on the menu as I'd they are not I do not want to make advances and piss her off and potentially end in trouble. This is a legit request FYI.The AMP on Vine near D / T Willoughby. In the plaza with Subway and a Tattoo parlor. They are generally available for walk-in. Legit massage. Self-service only if you want that. I've had some very good massages there. I don't partake in the self-service though.

Mmiikkeessmm
07-18-22, 09:25
The AMP on Vine near D / T Willoughby. In the plaza with Subway and a Tattoo parlor. They are generally available for walk-in. Legit massage. Self-service only if you want that. I've had some very good massages there. I don't partake in the self-service though.Thank you! Wasn't sure about that place. I needed more of legit massage than anything. Local masseuses are usually hard to get into same day much less last minute.

If anyone does have someone they could recommend on east side that does provide extras please pm me and I will try to return favor some way or somehow.

Thanks in advance!

Member #6192
07-18-22, 10:26
I'm hesitant to post this, so don't tell her about this post.

Wendy formally of Elyria then Lakewood who left, I text with. She told me she's back working at Pro Spa in Wooster.

I saw her last week. Was nice seeing her.

There is another Wendy in Grafton that I like.Thanks for the heads up. That is quite a haul to get to Wooster but good to know.

DaveTheLoose
07-18-22, 13:23
Blue Spa is a massage parlor and legit, been reported on here.

Not sure about the other 2 but traveling Asians roll through all the time. Some cute, some not.Others have mentioned this in the past I think, but Blue Spa has gotten quite expensive.

As for the traveling Asians, I too got explicit texts back from the ones in Strongsville, which makes me too nervous to try them out.

SR7D1
07-18-22, 16:59
Others have mentioned this in the past I think, but Blue Spa has gotten quite expensive.

As for the traveling Asians, I too got explicit texts back from the ones in Strongsville, which makes me too nervous to try them out.I have never been to Blue. What is too expensive? 60/40 ?

Member #6192
07-18-22, 17:07
I have never been to Blue. What is too expensive? 60/40 ?They increased it from 60 to 65 for an hour. Tips vary by service of course.

SR7D1
07-18-22, 17:19
They increased it from 60 to 65 for an hour. Tips vary by service of course.Thanks Wild. $5 would not keep me from trying it out though. Old, ugly asian women would though. LOL.

Bards Tale
07-18-22, 22:33
I'm hesitant to post this, so don't tell her about this post.

Wendy formally of Elyria then Lakewood who left, I text with. She told me she's back working at Pro Spa in Wooster.

I saw her last week. Was nice seeing her.

There is another Wendy in Grafton that I like.Went to Pro Spa Today, Same old Lady that has been there from the get go and does not do anything more than a massage. No Wendy there.

SuStar
07-19-22, 00:20
Went to Pro Spa Today, Same old Lady that has been there from the get go and does not do anything more than a massage. No Wendy there.Wendy is now the proverbial hall-of-fame masseuse for all the local AMPs.

I heard that the real Wendy retired and settled down with a gentlemanly former client.

JohnnyMe
07-19-22, 07:09
Johnny, care to share a little more detail? Slim, thick, young, old, pic accurate, what kind of service, FS, BBBJ ect? Or if you prefer, you can PM.Lauryn is right about 30 years old and very good looking. She used to be skinny--almost too skinny because she's also tall--but she has put on some weight over covid. She is still nowhere near thick, but is nicely curvy. The pics are old and don't reflect her current size. She has stated up front that she does NOT do FS. There has been a hint that BJ would be available, but her excellent massage and bodywork have gotten the job done very, very nicely.

SR7D1
07-19-22, 11:49
Lauryn is right about 30 years old and very good looking. She used to be skinny--almost too skinny because she's also tall--but she has put on some weight over covid. She is still nowhere near thick, but is nicely curvy. The pics are old and don't reflect her current size. She has stated up front that she does NOT do FS. There has been a hint that BJ would be available, but her excellent massage and bodywork have gotten the job done very, very nicely.Ok, thank you for the report. With the additional weight I think I will pass. I like spinners or at least the same girl in the photos and it sounds like she is heavier than the pics she has posted.

Plus the fee for a NURU w / HJ sounds pricey. $250 usually is FS territory.

PropLA
07-19-22, 20:54
Not too far from the casino.

I was in town for a few days and needed a release. Cici led me to the back and wasn't shy about staying in the room while I undressed.

I only had time for 1/2 but I have a feeling the full hour has much better service. She's cute, 30's, great smile, petite, but not quite spinner. Great pressure on the massage and she took direction well on the flip. After cleaning me up she went back to a nice chest and head massage -- rather than rushing me out the door. There was another gal there, slightly older and taller, but I'm glad I met Cici first. I'd love to see her again, but it'll be months before I'm back in OH. Treat her well!

Rafter17
07-20-22, 08:15
Not too far from the casino.

I was in town for a few days and needed a release. Cici led me to the back and wasn't shy about staying in the room while I undressed.

I only had time for 1/2 but I have a feeling the full hour has much better service. She's cute, 30's, great smile, petite, but not quite spinner. Great pressure on the massage and she took direction well on the flip. After cleaning me up she went back to a nice chest and head massage -- rather than rushing me out the door. There was another gal there, slightly older and taller, but I'm glad I met Cici first. I'd love to see her again, but it'll be months before I'm back in OH. Treat her well!Do you have a link to her ad?

DaveTheLoose
07-20-22, 12:14
Thanks Wild. $5 would not keep me from trying it out though. Old, ugly asian women would though. LOL.Well, it's more than just $5. I've been there 5 or 6 times in the past and didn't pay more than standard tip for standard ending. But the last time, I ended up paying $140 total for just a standard ending. And before you guys get mad at me for contributing to price increases, let me just say that when a hot girl has her hand wrapped around my dick, I will agree to just about anything. Sorry, I just don't have the willpower that some of you do.

Member #6192
07-20-22, 13:43
Well, it's more than just $5. I've been there 5 or 6 times in the past and didn't pay more than standard tip for standard ending. But the last time, I ended up paying $140 total for just a standard ending. And before you guys get mad at me for contributing to price increases, let me just say that when a hot girl has her hand wrapped around my dick, I will agree to just about anything. Sorry, I just don't have the willpower that some of you do.That's a lot of tip.

DaveTheLoose
07-20-22, 14:54
That's a lot of tip.Yes it was. I should clarify that it was a $95 tip. The rest was the house fee. It was also a new girl, or at least one I'd never seen before.

Hookedonpun
07-20-22, 16:17
That's a lot of tip.Hopefully.

SR7D1
07-20-22, 16:48
Well, it's more than just $5. I've been there 5 or 6 times in the past and didn't pay more than standard tip for standard ending. But the last time, I ended up paying $140 total for just a standard ending. And before you guys get mad at me for contributing to price increases, let me just say that when a hot girl has her hand wrapped around my dick, I will agree to just about anything. Sorry, I just don't have the willpower that some of you do.He said the HF went up $5 and I replied the $5 would not keep me from trying it out.

WhyDidiJoin
07-20-22, 17:16
Do you have a link to her ad?He's likely referring to amazing foot spa by marcs in northfield.

As far as those mentioning blue spa it went up in rates because they are now essentially warren. When I last went there Angela offered a BBBJ or CFS (160 & 200 respectfully). I declined both as (believe it or not) I mostly go to these places to get a legit massage same day. I lift weights a lot and getting a normal masseuse without a 5 year wait is next to impossible LOL.

Lastly I'm likely done with going to any AMP save for relax in asiatown or the legit one in Willoughby (I doubt those older women who've been here for years are being trafficked). When I last went to mspa I heard the lady at the front desk singing happy birthday (in English) to her child. She then said I love you so much and I miss you while breaking down crying. Have no proof otherwise but to me that may be proof of trafficking. Thus I'm out.

SR7D1
07-20-22, 18:52
I heard KMS was busted earlier today around 2. Can anyone confirm?

LoveSixNine
07-20-22, 18:55
I heard KMS was busted earlier today around 2. Can anyone confirm?Oh shit, do they take the surveillance camera footage when they bust places?

Asking for a friend.

Member #6192
07-20-22, 21:18
I heard KMS was busted earlier today around 2. Can anyone confirm?Been a while since I've been to King Me. I haven't seen anything in the news about it yet. Where are you getting your intel?

StingerDouble
07-21-22, 13:39
Where is this Blue Spa everyone is talking about?

HedonismBot
07-21-22, 16:30
Where is this Blue Spa everyone is talking about?https://www.adultlook.com/p/3250420

LoveSixNine
07-21-22, 19:14
I stopped at another business where KMS is today. Open sign was not lit, and the few minutes I was there no one went in or out. Was looking to see someone try the door but no monger action.

WoolfMan
07-22-22, 08:23
Went to Grace spa address on 82. Name on the sign out front is something else but the phone number is the same. Got there around 4:30. One vehicle outside I parked around back because the parking lot is right on 82 and I have a unique vehicle. Went to the door and it was locked. I probably should have called when I was sitting in the parking lot next-door, but for some reason I didn't. F 'them.

LoveSixNine
07-22-22, 11:55
Went to Grace spa address on 82. Name on the sign out front is something else but the phone number is the same. Got there around 4:30. One vehicle outside I parked around back because the parking lot is right on 82 and I have a unique vehicle. Went to the door and it was locked. I probably should have called when I was sitting in the parking lot next-door, but for some reason I didn't. F 'them.That place has older women and isn't very exciting. You missed nothing.

Slow Roller
07-22-22, 12:16
Time to post this since I been to U Spa in North Olmsted twice already this week, Wendy is working there and going by Lisa. If it's not Wendy, you're going to get the exact service that you got from her.

Both times I went there this week she starts right to teasing the boys, has you get on all 4's starts the rub that way, after a little of that she has you flip and ask you if you want topless for. 60, of course I do. Lots of roaming and nipple sucking during the HJ, afterwards she has me flip back over and then gives you a great massage with more teasing, after about 40 minutes of that she asked me if I want another HJ for. 20 more. So yeah, it cost me. 60 for the door and. 80 for tips. YMMV but it was worth it to me.

Member #6192
07-22-22, 12:40
Time to post this since I been to U Spa in North Olmsted twice already this week, Wendy is working there and going by Lisa. If it's not Wendy, you're going to get the exact service that you got from her.

Both times I went there this week she starts right to teasing the boys, has you get on all 4's starts the rub that way, after a little of that she has you flip and ask you if you want topless for. 60, of course I do. Lots of roaming and nipple sucking during the HJ, afterwards she has me flip back over and then gives you a great massage with more teasing, after about 40 minutes of that she asked me if I want another HJ for. 20 more. So yeah, it cost me. 60 for the door and. 80 for tips. YMMV but it was worth it to me.Wendy provided better service than that, at least to me. Not saying this isn't Wendy but that doesn't sound like the Wendy I knew.

SR7D1
07-23-22, 07:53
Time to post this since I been to U Spa in North Olmsted twice already this week, Wendy is working there and going by Lisa. If it's not Wendy, you're going to get the exact service that you got from her.

Both times I went there this week she starts right to teasing the boys, has you get on all 4's starts the rub that way, after a little of that she has you flip and ask you if you want topless for. 60, of course I do. Lots of roaming and nipple sucking during the HJ, afterwards she has me flip back over and then gives you a great massage with more teasing, after about 40 minutes of that she asked me if I want another HJ for. 20 more. So yeah, it cost me. 60 for the door and. 80 for tips. YMMV but it was worth it to me.Appreciate your post Slow but the service sounds like nothing special at all. A topless HJ. I have been there 3 times, 2 from the same provider that is how you describe (except for the on all 4's thing which I am not sure I understand that). Topless HJ. The other time was a woman that I only felt inclined to get a massage from, not real pretty and rather plain and a bit old.

But as always, YMMV.

DaveTheLoose
07-24-22, 19:05
I stopped at another business where KMS is today. Open sign was not lit, and the few minutes I was there no one went in or out. Was looking to see someone try the door but no monger action.King Me Spa seems to be open again. Lights on, sign lit, door open. Just FYI.

Try269
07-25-22, 15:12
Stopped at Blue today, west of Cleveland. I was in a little bit of hurry so just took 1/2 hour. Never could understand the womans name. Body was decent except of the tummy damage, maybe 6, face was 5 or so. $45 for house, $140 tip. BBBJ was offered and accepted. Very little tease, no massage, with just an 1/2 hour that's fine. A little DATY (but DO NOT try FIV) . After few mintues had her turn so I could watch. She wasn't really doing the BBBJ it was way more HJ. She pretty rough at all times, would not listen. I called it off early without finishing. Just too rough.

You sometimes things just don't click between two people. I think that's probably what this was. Some of you will probably have way better luck. As I was leaving another lady talked to me, wanted me to come back. Longer hair, better face and the figure looked like it could be an 8+ or 9 (sometimes hard to tell until the package is unwrapped). Will I go back, for the 2nd lady Yes, for the 1st one No.

Compared to Tiger to the east, today was a big waste. Good luck.

Long Lean
07-25-22, 23:09
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/north-royalton-yes-massage/7513136403.html

This ad just showed up today on Craigslist. North Royalton location. Any stories about her?

BudBowl2001
07-25-22, 23:24
She is good. FS is available with her. And body is as advertised!


Stopped at Blue today, west of Cleveland. I was in a little bit of hurry so just took 1/2 hour. Never could understand the womans name. Body was decent except of the tummy damage, maybe 6, face was 5 or so. $45 for house, $140 tip. BBBJ was offered and accepted. Very little tease, no massage, with just an 1/2 hour that's fine. A little DATY (but DO NOT try FIV) . After few mintues had her turn so I could watch. She wasn't really doing the BBBJ it was way more HJ. She pretty rough at all times, would not listen. I called it off early without finishing. Just too rough.

You sometimes things just don't click between two people. I think that's probably what this was. Some of you will probably have way better luck. As I was leaving another lady talked to me, wanted me to come back. Longer hair, better face and the figure looked like it could be an 8+ or 9 (sometimes hard to tell until the package is unwrapped). Will I go back, for the 2nd lady Yes, for the 1st one No.

Compared to Tiger to the east, today was a big waste. Good luck.

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SuStar
07-26-22, 08:16
This has sucker written all over it 140 tip for 1/2 hour? What tree did you fall out of?The same one from which Eve picked the forbidden fruit?

Member #6192
07-26-22, 09:26
She is good. FS is available with her. And body is as advertised!I think the other woman was one of the other ladies who have been rotating in and out. I think the current one is Amanda. Haven't seen Lucy there in weeks. The provider spoken about in Try269's review is Cici (I think). She is the newest arrival and this review was spot on about her lack of enthusiasm.

Member #6192
07-26-22, 09:29
This has sucker written all over it 140 tip for 1/2 hour? What tree did you fall out of?The cost of business and not having to take a 2 hr round trip out East I guess.

SR7D1
07-26-22, 12:37
I think the other woman was one of the other ladies who have been rotating in and out. I think the current one is Amanda. Haven't seen Lucy there in weeks. The provider spoken about in Try269's review is Cici (I think). She is the newest arrival and this review was spot on about her lack of enthusiasm.I stopped out the other day, drew Shi Shi, 50 some year old, 5 out 10 for the back massage, massive up selling on the flip, HJ finish. Would not repeat. Met Amanda at the desk on the way out. She is cuter and younger. I know people have mentioned FS there, that was not my experience. Must not have been my day?

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07-26-22, 17:07
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Try269
07-27-22, 15:46
I am happy that you have adequate disposable dollars for your participation in the hobby.

Your statement that the other fellow's tip will drive up the prices you pay suggests otherwise.

The "newbie" member of this forum is entitled to make his own judgment about tipping.

He was there, he got what he got, and he tipped as he saw fit.

That's his prerogative.

I wasn't there, standing in his socks, so my comment on the amount of his tip would be presumptuous if not irrelevant.

The subject "newbie" didn't fall out of a tree because you judged his tip as excessive.

If you're not willing to help the newbie, the it behooves you to refrain from "burning his ass" under the guise of providing "constructive criticism".Socks were off along with everything else. The way I see things (by the way I'm closer to 70 then I am to 60, my first trip to a AMP was in 1971) is the house gets paid for the time. The tip isn't based on time but the anticipated service. So 1/2 hour or hour, if the service is the same, the tip is the same. Now you all may do it different but that's may way of seeing it. Rarely do 1/2 hour but was rushed that day.

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Asmoth
07-27-22, 18:05
So, ultimately I am with the guys who say, "worry about yourself" essentially.

However, I do understand and have seen the bad side of folks paying too much to these bitches.

I have seen girls who would fuck for an hour for 100 to 120 and were happy as clams all the sudden get some idiot who pays them 300 because he's never had pussy or just doesn't understand the cost of goods so to speak.

Luckily, I normally can talk the skanks down to whatever I want or what was agreed before so this doesn't really matter with me. But if you're coy or weak willed it can be be rough to adjust your price without being taken by the moment.

So I very much am like, do what you want, but realize if she does end up being a regular girl that hangs out on skip or one of the the other sites you are just raising the price for not just yourself but for others and some of these guys only can afford one or two ****** a month, so that ruins the game.

So look at it like putting the shopping cart back, nobody can really do much if you don't do the right thing, but you're an asshole none the less for being a part of the problem.

JohnnyRivers
07-27-22, 22:18
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/north-royalton-yes-massage/7513136403.html

This ad just showed up today on Craigslist. North Royalton location. Any stories about her?Has to be too good to be true.

JohnnyRivers
07-27-22, 22:24
Does anybody have a line on a female that is lactating?? I want mother's milk.

SuStar
07-28-22, 07:59
Socks were off along with everything elseThe idiom I used, "stand in his socks," is an expression developed by usage that presents a figurative, non-literal meaning to the phrase.

The meaning is this case is that I see or understand things from someone else's position or perspective.

I am certain you know that.

Nevertheless, I appreciate your attempt at humor.

Humor is a welcome if not necessary interjection in the midst of discussion often taken too seriously.


The tip isn't based on time but the anticipated serviceIn my view, a tip is based on the quality of service delivered, not anticipated.

I don't offer a tip before the service is delivered.

I offer it after the service is delivered, and gauge it to how closely the service came to my liking and satisfaction.

As I mentioned previously, I was not there, in the subject newbie's stead.

So I am without any rational basis to judge the tip he paid.

An increase in standard would require that almost every other visitor subsequent to the newbie pay a similarly higher amount.

There is too much angst here about upwardly driven prices, in my view.

BBSolo
07-28-22, 09:16
Looking at being in the west suburbs later today, is the massage itself decent? Any chance of a BBBJ from carolina or the other girl in her spot? Or is it massage and handy only.

Thanks in advance.

BuckNuts49
07-28-22, 09:17
Anyone have any info on thie newbie offering massages in Shaker Heights?

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/cleveland-let-me-help/7514024710.html

HungryEye
07-28-22, 09:25
Thanks for the good laugh this morning:

Re: So look at it like putting the shopping cart back, nobody can really do much if you don't do the right thing, but you're an asshole none the less for being a part of the problem.

H.


So, ultimately I am with the guys who say, "worry about yourself" essentially.

However, I do understand and have seen the bad side of folks paying too much to these bitches.

I have seen girls who would fuck for an hour for 100 to 120 and were happy as clams all the sudden get some idiot who pays them 300 because he's never had pussy or just doesn't understand the cost of goods so to speak.

Luckily, I normally can talk the skanks down to whatever I want or what was agreed before so this doesn't really matter with me. But if you're coy or weak willed it can be be rough to adjust your price without being taken by the moment.

So I very much am like, do what you want, but realize if she does end up being a regular girl that hangs out on skip or one of the the other sites you are just raising the price for not just yourself but for others and some of these guys only can afford one or two ****** a month, so that ruins the game.

So look at it like putting the shopping cart back, nobody can really do much if you don't do the right thing, but you're an asshole none the less for being a part of the problem.

SR7D1
07-28-22, 12:34
Has to be too good to be true.I sent her an email relay, there is no # listed. No response yet.

Member #6192
07-28-22, 12:47
Anyone have any info on thie newbie offering massages in Shaker Heights?

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/cleveland-let-me-help/7514024710.htmlNot to long ago someone mentioned her in here and said she is strictly 100% therapeutic.

Record Player
07-28-22, 13:05
Not to long ago someone mentioned her in here and said she is strictly 100% therapeutic.She has an ad up on Skip:

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/Kitty-213-312-5533-Wet-80hh-sp/907313960108

Member #6192
07-28-22, 13:20
She has an ad up on Skip:

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/Kitty-213-312-5533-Wet-80hh-sp/907313960108My apologies. I must have confused her with someone else.

TopFlight100
07-28-22, 14:51
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/Relaxation-At-Its-Finest/645035187086

Has anyone ever pulled the trigger and got a massage from her?

Try269
07-28-22, 15:55
The idiom I used, "stand in his socks," is an expression developed by usage that presents a figurative, non-literal meaning to the phrase.

The meaning is this case is that I see or understand things from someone else's position or perspective.

I am certain you know that.

Nevertheless, I appreciate your attempt at humor.

Humor is a welcome if not necessary interjection in the midst of discussion often taken too seriously.

In my view, a tip is based on the quality of service delivered, not anticipated.

I don't offer a tip before the service is delivered.

I offer it after the service is delivered, and gauge it to how closely the service came to my liking and satisfaction.

As I mentioned previously, I was not there, in the subject newbie's stead.

So I am without any rational basis to judge the tip he paid.

An increase in standard would require that almost every other visitor subsequent to the newbie pay a similarly higher amount..First not a newbie except to the forum. The question is how do you get them to say do FS without paying the tip before hand? Never been able to do that, they always want the tip upfront. By upfront I mean after the flip but before the FS.

SuStar
07-28-22, 19:02
First not a newbie except to the forum

Never meant to suggest that you were a newbie.

My reference to newbie was to the guy in an earlier post who was subsequently lambasted for offering what was deemed an excessive tip.

By the way, the first AMP you visited in 1971? Was it located in Ohio?


The question is how do you get them to say do FS without paying the tip before hand? Never been able to do that, they always want the tip upfront. By upfront I mean after the flip but before the FSYou are correct on the demand for a tip upfront by an AMP masseuse in that circumstance.

My apology for the confusion.

SuStar
07-28-22, 19:14
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/Relaxation-At-Its-Finest/645035187086

Has anyone ever pulled the trigger and got a massage from her?

She doesn't look like a provider of massage.

My hunch says she will take your money and have her strong-armed friend escort you out of door.

If it's any consolation, she does look like a Breck Shampoo girl.

https://clickamericana.com/eras/1960s/famous-breck-girl-shampoo-ads/

Try269
07-28-22, 20:45
Never meant to suggest that you were a newbie.

My reference to newbie was to the guy in an earlier post who was subsequently lambasted for offering what was deemed an excessive tip.

By the way, the first AMP you visited in 1971? Was it located in Ohio?

You are correct on the demand for a tip upfront by an AMP masseuse in that circumstance.

My apology for the confusion.No I've only been in Ohio a couple of years. Over the years I've been in TN, MS, ARK, LA, MO, and others. I thought I was the earlier guy who got blasted for an excessive tip.

Dixon Cider
07-28-22, 22:38
Not to long ago someone mentioned her in here and said she is strictly 100% therapeutic.Her ad states she will work on any 2 areas you want. Cock and balls for the win.

SuStar
07-29-22, 01:03
No I've only been in Ohio a couple of years. Over the years I've been in TN, MS, ARK, LA, MO, and others. I thought I was the earlier guy who got blasted for an excessive tip.I've scrolled down and discovered that it was you.

I lost sight of your name and original post in the ensuing discussion.

My apology for assuming you were a newbie.

I had no idea that AMPs have been operating in the USA as far back as 1971.

The earliest I remember AMPs in Ohio was during the 1990's.

Back then, the Warren AMPs advertised regularly in the sports section of Cleveland newspaper.

JohnnyMe
07-29-22, 06:43
Looking at being in the west suburbs later today, is the massage itself decent? Any chance of a BBBJ from carolina or the other girl in her spot? Or is it massage and handy only.

Thanks in advance.Carolina does offer BBBJ and I believe FS is available as well, but you may not be able to get either of those on a first appointment. The massage itself is pretty good and she is definitely worth a visit. You also would do very well with Lauren. She is a cute Black spinner who really works your massage. She occasionally has an ad up on Eros, but her scheduler is extremely slow in responding. The ad isn't currently up, but you can PM me for her number.

JohnnyMe
07-29-22, 06:45
https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/Relaxation-At-Its-Finest/645035187086

Has anyone ever pulled the trigger and got a massage from her?She is so bad that she keeps changing her name. Search reviews for Leah. Avoid, avoid, avoid.

Member #6297
07-29-22, 12:50
Has anyone seen Zoe? (works with Aubrey Audair). I have been trying to contact Aubrey to get scheduled but I keep getting crickets.

SuStar
07-29-22, 13:45
Has anyone seen Zoe? (works with Aubrey Audair). I have been trying to contact Aubrey to get scheduled but I keep getting crickets.Zoe is a beautiful name.

It has a Greek origin and comes from the name Eve, which means "life".

Alexandrian Jews translated the Hebrew name Eve to its Greek equivalent, Zoe.

Try269
07-29-22, 15:41
I've scrolled down and discovered that it was you.

I lost sight of your name and original post in the ensuing discussion.

My apology for assuming you were a newbie.

I had no idea that AMPs have been operating in the USA as far back as 1971.

The earliest I remember AMPs in Ohio was during the 1990's.

Back then, the Warren AMPs advertised regularly in the sports section of Cleveland newspaper.1971 there were several near an army base I lived near. Not sure how wide spread they were at the time. GIs would bring Korean ladies over as their wives, break up and wife had to make a living.

Member #6162
07-29-22, 17:56
"A fully lactating milky mess".

https://members.seeking.com/member/3a146632-71c4-4df9-9520-68157e2833bf


Does anybody have a line on a female that is lactating?? I want mother's milk.

Try269
07-30-22, 16:41
Has anyone tried this place. Its in an odd area, the building looks to have a CPA, a couple medical offices etc.

https://elyria.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/best-massage-440-723-9443-Hot/007945695647

Jtb1985
07-31-22, 22:14
I saw a few mentions of this place but didn't really get the info I was looking for so decided to take one for the team and head over this afternoon. Walked in and was greeted by Genie, or Jeanine, or Jenny, I don't really know. I couldn't understand a word she said the entire time, which wasn't that big of a deal, not like I came for conversation anyway. She was cute, maybe 30 years old, short and curvy with natural b cups and a little handful of buttcheeks. Fuckable, but not smokeshow hot by any means. Also her teeth were a little jacked up and she was wearing such a bad wig that even I noticed she was wearing a bad wig. This is not something I normally care about when looking at women, how their wig looks. House fee was 65 for 1 hr and she led me to the room where I undressed and waited. No table shower or sauna, not sure if they have those amenities on site. Probably not. She came in and gave me the most horrible massage of my life. I honestly think she was trying to put me in as much pain as she possibly could. She literally just dug her elbows into my spine as hard as she could. I felt like I was in a wrestling match with The Iron Sheik. Don't really know what that was about or how she thought it could feel good, but thankfully it ended and it was time for what I really came for. She quoted me 200 for FS and I offered her the 140 (standard for Warren) that I planned on paying and she agreed with a super disappointed look on her face and said "200 next time ok?" "Yeah toots, whatever you say. " She then had me lay down and rubbed her boobs all over my body which I enjoyed and was the best part of the whole session. She laid back and I blew in the bag after pumping away for a bit in mish. All in all I won't be repeating and would rather take the drive to Warren. You guys stay safe out there.

LoveSixNine
08-01-22, 12:37
Has anyone tried this place. Its in an odd area, the building looks to have a CPA, a couple medical offices etc.

https://elyria.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/best-massage-440-723-9443-Hot/007945695647I've been there a few times. 1st time was great with Mia. Great massage and good looking girl. She has a great yeast game which I liked. Every time I've been back tho, it was one chubby woman with huge boobs and she was a little older. Next time after that I walk in and am greeted by a really old woman with scabs or something all over her elbows. I ask if massage is with her and she said yes. It was the first time I ever left an AMP after walking in amd the last time I ever went there. I hate to give them a bad review because Mia is awesome but she's the only one I would want to see again. Maybe they've gotten some younger ones by now who knows. On the other hand tho, I'm pretty sure it is the cleanest one I've been too.

CleGuy1999
08-01-22, 14:52
Has anyone tried this place. Its in an odd area, the building looks to have a CPA, a couple medical offices etc.

https://elyria.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/best-massage-440-723-9443-Hot/007945695647Bump anyone taken the plunge yet?

LoveSixNine
08-01-22, 14:57
Looks like rubratings is back.

http://rubsratings.com

They added an S to their link.

EmptyCup
08-01-22, 18:47
Has anyone tried this place. Its in an odd area, the building looks to have a CPA, a couple medical offices etc.

https://elyria.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/best-massage-440-723-9443-Hot/007945695647Drove out there awhile back and they were closed. Called and they said they were remodeling. Would be open next week. Tried the following week and still closed. Got the same open next week. Did this two more times and just gave up. Haven't been there for a few months. Curious what the remodel was all about. The place hasn't been there that long to need a remodel.

Member #6308
08-02-22, 10:04
That also performs HE / FS?? Just a thought.

Cric1
08-02-22, 11:16
New to this. Looking for AMP recommendations in Cleveland area.

Archie Pitcar
08-02-22, 13:55
Where / what is this place? I had no luck with google.


I saw a few mentions of this place but didn't really get the info I was looking for so decided to take one for the team and head over this afternoon. Walked in and was greeted by Genie, or Jeanine, or Jenny, I don't really know. I couldn't understand a word she said the entire time, which wasn't that big of a deal, not like I came for conversation anyway. She was cute, maybe 30 years old, short and curvy with natural b cups and a little handful of buttcheeks. Fuckable, but not smokeshow hot by any means. Also her teeth were a little jacked up and she was wearing such a bad wig that even I noticed she was wearing a bad wig. This is not something I normally care about when looking at women, how their wig looks. House fee was 65 for 1 hr and she led me to the room where I undressed and waited. No table shower or sauna, not sure if they have those amenities on site. Probably not. She came in and gave me the most horrible massage of my life. I honestly think she was trying to put me in as much pain as she possibly could. She literally just dug her elbows into my spine as hard as she could. I felt like I was in a wrestling match with The Iron Sheik. Don't really know what that was about or how she thought it could feel good, but thankfully it ended and it was time for what I really came for. She quoted me 200 for FS and I offered her the 140 (standard for Warren) that I planned on paying and she agreed with a super disappointed look on her face and said "200 next time ok?" "Yeah toots, whatever you say. " She then had me lay down and rubbed her boobs all over my body which I enjoyed and was the best part of the whole session. She laid back and I blew in the bag after pumping away for a bit in mish. All in all I won't be repeating and would rather take the drive to Warren. You guys stay safe out there.

LoveSixNine
08-02-22, 15:08
Where / what is this place? I had no luck with google.https://website-448576298426081873181-massagespa.business.site/

Let me know how it goes.

Try269
08-03-22, 16:28
Drove out there awhile back and they were closed. Called and they said they were remodeling. Would be open next week. Tried the following week and still closed. Got the same open next week. Did this two more times and just gave up. Haven't been there for a few months. Curious what the remodel was all about. The place hasn't been there that long to need a remodel.I'll be in that general area tomorrow, if I have time, I'll check it out.

SuStar
08-03-22, 22:36
New to this. Looking for AMP recommendations in Cleveland area.The general recommendation to all forum newbies is to do your own homework.

Read the forum devoted to Massage Parlors, thoroughly and extensively.

Find a few posts that make sense to you.

Perhaps glean a specific question on a potential AMP visit and post it.

If there's no reply, your option is to forget AMPs, or to take a plunge and find out for yourself.

Personal experience is generally viewed as the best teacher.

Beware that paying for sex (that is, the usual "happy ending" at AMP's) is prohibited by Ohio law.

Violating Ohio law will put you at peril for consequences.

DaddyDcle
08-03-22, 23:38
Anyone have a number for her?

TravelingTom
08-04-22, 09:11
Has anyone had a chance to see this one. I'm going to be up in Cleveland for some work. You can PM me with details if you want. Thanks.

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/YOUR-FAVORITE-SEXY-BLONDE-spe/516332209863

SecondToLast
08-04-22, 09:15
Has anyone had a chance to see this one. I'm going to be up in Cleveland for some work. You can PM me with details if you want. Thanks.

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/YOUR-FAVORITE-SEXY-BLONDE-spe/516332209863I always enjoyed her service, but I had to stop seeing her. Multiple times she was late to our appointments. Between 30 minutes and an hour. One time we had a time scheduled. I get there, and she texts me that she just took someone else. The last time, she was almost an hour late, so I left and wrote her off.

SR7D1
08-04-22, 13:09
Has anyone had a chance to see this one. I'm going to be up in Cleveland for some work. You can PM me with details if you want. Thanks.

https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/YOUR-FAVORITE-SEXY-BLONDE-spe/516332209863Far better options than Taylor. Old pics, much thicker, bad attitude.

Try269
08-04-22, 16:10
Drove out there awhile back and they were closed. Called and they said they were remodeling. Would be open next week. Tried the following week and still closed. Got the same open next week. Did this two more times and just gave up. Haven't been there for a few months. Curious what the remodel was all about. The place hasn't been there that long to need a remodel.I stopped today, it is open, called Crystal Foot Spa. Typical prices $4 half hour $6 hour. One woman working said she was busy to come back. She was wearing long sleeve sweat shirt and slacks. Looked more legit then anything. Not especially attractive. I my make another stop sometime to see there is better scenery.

RobertD26
08-05-22, 00:24
Does anyone know of a good person or place that give a very good massage. I don't care alot about the rest but just want a good massage that will get all the kinks in my back and other places out. I work on cars so could use it.

SortOf
08-05-22, 14:56
Does anyone have experience with her? Or heard anything about her?

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/macedonia-wax-and-relax/7516318612.html

SuStar
08-05-22, 16:13
Does anyone know of a good person or place that give a very good massage. I don't care alot about the rest but just want a good massage that will get all the kinks in my back and other places out. I work on cars so could use it.https://www.uhhospitals.org/services/integrative-health-network/our-services/massage-therapy

https://www.expertise.com/oh/cleveland/massage-therapy

MassageGuy007
08-05-22, 23:24
Does anyone have experience with her? Or heard anything about her?

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/hws/d/macedonia-wax-and-relax/7516318612.htmlStay away!

Packing9
08-07-22, 19:02
"A fully lactating milky mess".

https://members.seeking.com/member/3a146632-71c4-4df9-9520-68157e2833bfHaha met her and she is a druggie mess, was preggo when I met and yeah she had no.

Problem smoking and drinking the whole 9 months. Got turned off and left- she's like east side cle, not exactly hudson!

SortOf
08-07-22, 20:50
Stay away!Can you clarify why?

AsianBlowjob
08-08-22, 13:15
Can you clarify why?I went to her place in Stow (at the time) at least a year ago, maybe two.

Certainly a drug user. Nothing at all to look at.

I was there to get a trim, which she said she did, but apparently she only did waxing, and if I wanted her to trim it up, I needed to bring the razor and shaving cream.

Gave me a solid reason to leave to go get the materials. I left, would not go back.

LoveAsianWomen
08-09-22, 22:59
Where / what is this place? I had no luck with google.I decided to check this place out last week, I got Jenny both times, CBJ, CFS, does anyone have any info on the other girl there?

WoolfMan
08-10-22, 08:32
Has anyone seen white Aubrey lately? I haven't seen her post's for a little while. I met her when I had seen Gia in old Brooklyn a while back. Now I'm curious. Is she really "fun and flirty"? Called left a messages no reply, is she that https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/Aubrey-Flirty-Fun-216-570-401/298997464987.

Member #6192
08-10-22, 09:59
I decided to check this place out last week, I got Jenny both times, CBJ, CFS, does anyone have any info on the other girl there?The other provider there is Cici. She gives a slightly better massage than Jenny (less elbows at least); similar rest of service.

I was not impressed with either of these providers and will not return until some new providers arrive.

StingerDouble
08-10-22, 13:05
Has anyone seen white Aubrey lately? I haven't seen her post's for a little while. I met her when I had seen Gia in old Brooklyn a while back. Now I'm curious. Is she really "fun and flirty"? Called left a messages no reply, is she that https://cleveland.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/Aubrey-Flirty-Fun-216-570-401/298997464987.I sas Aubrey about a week ago. Pretty much the same experience as Gia, decent massage and a handy.

Peigen
08-12-22, 10:33
Newbie here. I got my first HE a few days ago from Angie over in Strongsville and it was great. How often do you all go in for service? Would it be too much to go twice in a week? I'm not thinking of going that often regularly but after this first time I'm excited to go again.

Also, she seemed to know that it was my first time, I guess I seemed quiet or a little nervous. Are you guys talking and making conversation throughout the massage? She was okay with me touching her, but I didn't start touching at all until the flip when she put my hand on her ass. Do you normal touch and flirt more during the whole process or just for the HE?

Anyways, any insight would be appreciated.