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Proceed with care with this provider. I will be upfront that I don't have first hand information but there are recent reports that she has a male friend who tries to rob you after the session in the parking garage and / or tries to coerce you into paying a "fee" to not tell your wife or girlfriend of your activities.
http://www.misslizziebeth.comAfter going to her site, it seems weird for her to put all that work into it just to engage in some fuckery with her clients in setting them up to get robbed. But alas, WE are cautious with EVERY provider we meet, yes?
Drunker Irish
12-30-13, 23:02
Where did you get this info? Is it posted on any board? I can't vouch for her because we didn't get a chance to hook up after exchanging emails, but she's got all great reviews. Seems odd that she'the suddenly turn bad.It was posted on the ohTER board a few days ago, the thread didn't last the day. The thread started with her, Lizzie, saying she was ripped off by a monger. That he short changed her after asking for a longer session. A monger then said it was him, that he didn't rip her off. She didn't reply to his post. I asked for the e. Mail exchange from the monger, which I never received. Another monger said he was mugged after a session from her, but didn't put the two together. Anyway, he didn't put the two together until after this posting. Then "Oversteer" appeared and started threatening people and calling them 'punks'. Weird language because that board is pretty 'clean' and a bit more upscale.
As noted, just a heads. Up and keep your wits about you if you visit her. I had thought about it, just as a novelty, but not worth it.
ADDENDUM:
She put up a blog post about the events - just her side of the story. I might have sided with her, but her pimp showed-up and was threatening people who were posting in her thread. If you have a good visit, please post here so we know its 'safe'.
http://misslizziebeth21.********.com/2013/12/since-when-did-it-become-okay-to-blame.html
(looks like the link is blanked out, just go to her website and her blog is on the front page http://www.misslizziebeth.com ).
The FACT that Gina has revoked her account, and as she posted in her blog, leads me to believe you should be careful.
"He has apparently fabricated the events so badly that Gina from P411 had permanently revoked my account without any sort of explanation or allowing me the opportunity to respond."
DI.
Adultonline
01-05-14, 14:27
After going to her site, it seems weird for her to put all that work into it just to engage in some fuckery with her clients in setting them up to get robbed. But alas, WE are cautious with EVERY provider we meet, yes?I am a very careful hobbyist. I have seen Lizzie and enjoyed our time together both physically and just chatting. She is a smart, intelligent and passionate young lady who has terrific skills. I suggest caution with any escort, of course. But Lizzie requires no special caution. I trust every word she wrote in the blog at her web site -- but I have no "reason" to come to her defense except the fact that we enjoyed a geat time together and I hope to do so again.
I was visiting Chantilly area on biz and got done early today. I had been checking BP for the area the last day or so. I saw Chynna ad and the wrong head get locked-on.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/call-now-247-jaw-dropping-filipina-mouthwatering-exotic-asian-23/13621300
I had always wanted to experience an Asian women and she has the assets that I look for. Put a big set of honkers and I lose site of everything else. I called her and she answered. Her voice sounded so sweet. Made appointment, and it was the typical exchange of info.
When I got to her location, she answered in a nice robe and her big assets were popping through and did the LE check. We got comfit able, and then I saw the rest of her. Her face was very cute, she has great set of tits, but she also had a big stomach (the pix did not show the flabby stomach) and had no real figure. We got down to business, she was more mechanical, no warmth. I did not expect a GFE, but she was more like a robot. $.20 for hh and $.80 for hr. This proves one should do their homework, and not let the wrong head do the thinking. I would not repeat.
Anybody has recent experience with sky agency? Did not hear anything about them recently, planning to travel the area.
Proceed with care with this provider. I will be upfront that I don't have first hand information but there are recent reports that she has a male friend who tries to rob you after the session in the parking garage and / or tries to coerce you into paying a "fee" to not tell your wife or girlfriend of your activities.
http://www.misslizziebeth.comI saw this girl and while she is legit (as in she is in the business and no one tried to rob me), there are a few points I will note:
1) I believe her description of herself is misleading, and she very much overvalues herself in the business (There is a difference between "not a spinner" and needing a harpoon).
2) The good news is essentially everything and anything is on the menu. Iffff - (see 3).
3) You are willing to pay for it. Her prices are now on her website (they weren't always).
She has a simple verification process, but that of course leaves her with certain information of yours which after reading some of these posts would be of concern to myself anyways. Take what you will from this report, simple scale review below.
(Face / Body / Attitude / Service).
F- Oh boy, a college girl who isn't that attractive (I'd say late 20's).
B- She hasn't been able to work out, she hurt her back. (lul).
A- Decent if you pay her rates. Willing to please I'd say. Before she posted her rates, I got the feeling she had some issues with other gents not seeing eye to eye with her regarding her value.
S- Welp, she does all that stuff that you want her to do, so she deserves credit for that part of the deal.
4/4/8/8.
Seniors, feel free to PM for detail.
-Zhuxi.
For any info on iluvhot. Any seniors care to share some experiences via the back channel? I've found contact info etc. Easy enough, so I'm just looking for any of the finer details. Thanks gents.
-Zhuxi.
Ambidextrous
05-03-14, 20:06
"Izzy" lives up to the high standard of beauty, attentiveness and kindness that is the hallmark of this agency. I was disappointed by her limitations, but if you don't share my (perhaps odd) proclivities, you may find her perfect.
"Izzy" said she is 26, from Seoul, in USA For 8 months. She has a cheerful, communicative personality and perfect natural be-cups but is a bit thick in the lower body. She greeted me warmly but did not embrace me immediately, which was fine because she warmed up nicely with small talk leading to a profusion of kisses, caresses, and disrobing. She is warm-hearted, kind, and responds wonderfully to a gentle unhurried approach.
She seemed to enjoy DATY but didn't really get off and I gave up after maybe seven or eight minutes. (At least she didn't fake it). DATO, she squirmed and said it was "strange," as if no one had ever tried it before. Further exploration in that area was off-limits. . . Declined CIF too.
Cowgirl, missionary, BBBJCIM were completely enjoyable. She swallowed. After-chat was excellent, a moment of pure relaxation.
Overall a very satisfying experience, worth the 3 $. But because I crave more adventurous providers I probably will not repeat.
(Note: there seems to be an automatic edit on here that does weird things to posts by changing punctuation and capitalization. Wish they would get rid of that).
Set up an appointment with this agency and was not disappointed. The verification process was standard enough for myself, but some hobbyists may take issue with it. Once verified I later in the week made an appointment with Nancy. Was greeted at the door by a very pretty K-girl whom was likely a bit older than pictures, but very good looking. Excellent view, slender and tight body, pretty face.
Standard checks, then companion shower followed by an excellent time with a provider whom actually lives up to the advertisement.
Nancy provided everything as advertised, and I will repeat; both Nancy and the agency. Some seniors can PM for details, but frankly the back channel has been fairly under welcoming even to a seasoned senior like myself, so if you don't recieve a reply. Ho hum. My back channel comrades feel free to PM.
Face / Body / Attitude / Service.
8/8/9/9.
Zhuxi.
UpToNoGood05
05-30-14, 18:37
I contacted Savannah through P411 and she agreed to meet during her visit to the DC area this week. Her home base is Austin, Texas and if you like southern belles, this is the one for you. She is well reviewed on other sites and if anything, she is better in person than her photos convey. 5'3" 103 pounds, hot thin body, quirky personality, all woman, very real, very sensual. This is definitely a woman who wants to connect on a deep sensual level, and if she chooses to see you, she will open her soul to you. For me, everything was on the menu. A total GFE.
Savannah's going to be here through Sunday afternoon, and if you can possibly get on her schedule over the next two days, I would beg borrow and steal to make that happen. Her incall location is a convenient upscale hotel off I-495 in Alexandria.
UpToNoGood05
06-06-14, 23:50
Over two months ago I sent off appointment requests to the NOVA K-girl establishments: Iluvhot, Skyeden and Top Luminous. Nothing came of it, seemed my messages just disappeared into a black hole. Or did they? Out of the blue, Top Luminous gave me its approval and the golden gates suddenly opened into a New World. But getting a foot in the door at Top Luminous doesn't mean you can instantly get everything you want. I requested time with Jessica (hot new girl visiting) but was informed that Jessica was "totally booked" and only Janice was available. So I pulled Janice and had a nice time last night: total GFE, everything on the menu, perfect service, a girl who just wants to please. The language barrier was a problem, however. My enjoyment with escorts is so much related to the ability to make small talk, laugh, and have some little stories to remember the occasion. With Janice, I just couldn't quite find that rapport. Although she was certainly hot, we had no conversation and on that basis, I would not repeat. As for the K-girl scene, I'm intrigued and will explore further (visiting girl Violet looks inviting). As an organization, Top Luminous is absolutely first rate: four message system for total security, upscale apartment, well appointed dimly lit boudoir, showers and mouthwash (really, can we get any cleaner?
Bunker Buster
06-07-14, 17:21
I contacted Savannah through P411 and she agreed to meet during her visit to the DC area this week. Her home base is Austin, Texas and if you like southern belles, this is the one for you. She is well reviewed on other sites and if anything, she is better in person than her photos convey. 5'3" 103 pounds, hot thin body, quirky personality, all woman, very real, very sensual. This is definitely a woman who wants to connect on a deep sensual level, and if she chooses to see you, she will open her soul to you. For me, everything was on the menu. A total GFE.
Savannah's going to be here through Sunday afternoon, and if you can possibly get on her schedule over the next two days, I would beg borrow and steal to make that happen. Her incall location is a convenient upscale hotel off I-495 in Alexandria.So people don't have to go on a scavenger hunt to find her.
UpToNoGood05
06-07-14, 18:40
So people don't have to go on a scavenger hunt to find her.You're right, I'm learning!
Here's the link. She's one in a million.
http://www.savannahbeaujolais.com/
I've been looking to spend some resources into these k agencies like iluvhot and skyeden but they are more expensive than the avg. I was wondering do they over more services like is everything on the menu and wether or not I have to wear a rubber during a BJ. Also do the girls really look like the ones in the pictures? Any help would be appreciated.
I'm trying to get past the screening. Can some1 tell me what do they mean when they ask refrence contact info?
I've been looking to spend some resources into these k agencies like iluvhot and skyeden but they are more expensive than the avg. I was wondering do they over more services like is everything on the menu and wether or not I have to wear a rubber during a BJ. Also do the girls really look like the ones in the pictures? Any help would be appreciated.Usually you don't need one during BJ. There rare cases when you do. Check out the oThER site. All the info you're looking for are on there even on the specific girl but you must be VIP member, meaning you have to write reviews. Have a safe-happy hunting!
I'm trying to get past the screening. Can some1 tell me what do they mean when they ask refrence contact info?You might not want to feed the troll.
Bunker Buster
06-10-14, 01:51
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I'm trying to get past the screening. Can some1 tell me what do they mean when they ask refrence contact info?You're doing it wrong. I'd suggest you take the advice you have been given and do a little searching so that you can find yourself some fun.
Zhuxi.
UpToNoGood05
06-17-14, 09:31
Had an hour with Viki last night, a trusty provider with reasonable rates listed on P411. She's been out of action for a while but just got back into the business. I requested an appointment earlier in the evening and thought I'the hear back from her the next day. I was surprised when she emailed back immediately saying she could meet me the next evening but it had to be in Maryland. I didn't like that so much but asked for the location so maybe I could swing it after work. At this point we got on Yahoo I'm and were going back and forth, when we realized we lived very near each other in Northern Virginia. I'm'ing her got me so hot I asked if she would do outcall at my place right then and there. I mean, I couldn't stand it anymore and had to have her. It was 9 pm by that time, but she said "give me an hour and I'll be there". So hot! She finally arrived at 10:30, whereupon we made a mad dash for the bedroom and began to engage in passionate sex. Viki's pretty bisexual but prefers men. She's a real GFE with no limits, and you can't go wrong with this girl. Seniors PM me for details – I'll be publishing a review soon on the other site as always.
https://www.preferred411.com/P124176
http://naughtyviki.escortbook.com/
Ambidextrous
06-29-14, 17:20
A new K-agency has started to advertise. When I called the booker remembered me from the predecessor agency, which had a somewhat similar name and disappeared about a year ago. Welcome back, more choice is always better.
Quiet Tyson's Corner apartment location, easy and discreet entry.
"Mini" is 25, very pretty, flawless natural body, sweet and affectionate personality, great kisser (although I could tell she smokes). I gave her a long massagi which slowly developed into extended DATY, she took a while but let herself go and got off big time. Nixed back door play. Finished with BBBJCIMPM. 1 hour, damage 3 $.
Mini is a natural, she enjoys both giving and receiving. She said things have been slow this week, so brothers here's your chance.
Hi, Ambidextrous is damage 3 $ =$300.00 per visit?
A new K-agency has started to advertise. When I called the booker remembered me from the predecessor agency, which had a somewhat similar name and disappeared about a year ago. Welcome back, more choice is always better.
Quiet Tyson's Corner apartment location, easy and discreet entry.
"Mini" is 25, very pretty, flawless natural body, sweet and affectionate personality, great kisser (although I could tell she smokes). I gave her a long massagi which slowly developed into extended DATY, she took a while but let herself go and got off big time. Nixed back door play. Finished with BBBJCIMPM. 1 hour, damage 3 $.
Mini is a natural, she enjoys both giving and receiving. She said things have been slow this week, so brothers here's your chance.
BBBJCIMPM?
What's CIMPM?
A new K-agency has started to advertise. When I called the booker remembered me from the predecessor agency, which had a somewhat similar name and disappeared about a year ago. Welcome back, more choice is always better.
Quiet Tyson's Corner apartment location, easy and discreet entry.
"Mini" is 25, very pretty, flawless natural body, sweet and affectionate personality, great kisser (although I could tell she smokes). I gave her a long massagi which slowly developed into extended DATY, she took a while but let herself go and got off big time. Nixed back door play. Finished with BBBJCIMPM. 1 hour, damage 3 $.
Mini is a natural, she enjoys both giving and receiving. She said things have been slow this week, so brothers here's your chance.
Ambidextrous
07-19-14, 14:06
Booked an hour with "Barbara" at a reliable K-agency. Pretty face, smashing body, but as great as her physical gifts are, her heart was equally cold. She made as little physical and eye contact as possible, seemed bored and mechanical. Responded to my conversational efforts by laughing. After a quick shower, I tried caressing her gently and slowly to see if I could warm her up, but it didn't work. Went to touch her face, she ducked away: "Makeup. " Brushed my lips gently against hers, no response.
I fell back on the bed covering my face with my hands, realizing I would get zero affection from this provider. I said, "I can't do it," and bailed. Fortunately I had not handed the envelope to her at the start, it was still in my shirt pocket. As I left I dropped $ on the table in the entry, if for no other reason to show good faith towards the agency, which has rarely disappointed me this way in the past. I was there only about 15 minutes. We didn't say a word to each other as I left. I felt disturbed and upset.
Back in my car I called the booker, with whom I have long had good relations, and explained why I left. She was sympathetic, said some girls just don't have warmth, indicated this provider has gotten mixed feedback. She thanked me genuinely for leaving $, and seemed to agree this was not my fault. It was a nice conversation and I'm glad I didn't burn any bridges with this agency.
What next? It's been a couple of years since I tried a Chinese provider, but I had the number of a nearby Chinese condo, and I still had enough to cover the $. 6 tariff. So I made a quick call and off I went.
"KeKe" met me cheerfully in the garage and we rode the elevator together up to the dingy apt. She said she was 28 but looked around 40, body a bit thick but decent. I well know that the service you get is usually commensurate with the price, so I went in with lowered expectations. It turned out just about how I expected. I asked her for water, she had no glass and gave it to me in a bowl! No DFK, nixed back door play and FIV, gave CBJ and covered missionary to completion. What made it tolerable was that she was affectionate and seemed to genuinely enjoy herself, which was such a relief that I accepted half a loaf gladly. She doesn't speak English and I don't speak Chinese, so we were reduced to using the translation program on her phone to communicate. She asked me to come back again. There was no pressure to leave but since we couldn't really talk there was no point in prolonging the visit. I was out of there in about forty minutes.
You can't always hit a home run in this hobby. Today I barely eked out a single.
Hi everyone, first time poster. I'm Korean and 31 yrs old atm. My friend recently introduced me to the world of AMP's. I must have lucked out the first few times as I managed to get cute, younger looking girls (23 ish). I was only half expecting a HE offer at the time but got FS instead. It blew my mind and I've been hooked ever since. This was in NY and I've quickly realized that I'm not going to be able to duplicate the experience here in NoVA where the majority of providers resemble my aunts and mom, gahhh! The one time I gave in and tried a more mature looking lady, didn't seem into it and did not take me seriously at all. Maybe I reminded her of her dickhead son? I don't know.
I want to take the next step and visit an escort but as some of you have described, there seems to be a huge barrier to get in one of the K agencies. I've tried contacting TopLuminous, but haven't gotten a response nor do I expect one. If it weren't too risky, I'd give my employment info in a heart beat but my only option is to try and get references where I can and become a respected member on this board. I know it will take time but I wanted to just ask if any of you senior members are feeling generous and would be willing to put me on the fast track. If anyone shoots me a PM to get a private number of a bookie, I will be eternally grateful and repay the debt 3 x. I'll contribute to the forums whenever I can. In some of your guys' reviews you mention the language barrier and how you have nothing to talk about, maybe I can help there? At the very least I can give you guys some insight on Korean culture and latest trends. Kgirls do nothing but watch dramas and variety shows on their free time, you'll be sure to get some laughs and a smile if you mention some of them! Or you could always just shout out random phrases like Daebak ("Day-bach" awesome) to feel a little more comfortable.
Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you guys soon. I understand if I get flamed for asking for help on my first post but its worth a shot.
I'm having my friend (who's much better in Korean than I) try calling and emailing the K-agencies. I'm hoping he'll get the special ethnocentric treatment since most Koreans are racist bastards LOL. I doubt he'll be successful but its worth a shot. On another note I think I just got past screening on paradise hotties. I'm thinking about booking Nina. Have any of you guys had any experiences with this place. And will I be able to use this as a reference for future places. Thanks.
Booked an hour with "Barbara" at a reliable K-agency. Pretty face, smashing body, but as great as her physical gifts are, her heart was equally cold. She made as little physical and eye contact as possible, seemed bored and mechanical. Responded to my conversational efforts by laughing. After a quick shower, I tried caressing her gently and slowly to see if I could warm her up, but it didn't work. Went to touch her face, she ducked away: "Makeup. " Brushed my lips gently against hers, no response.
I fell back on the bed covering my face with my hands, realizing I would get zero affection from this provider. I said, "I can't do it," and bailed. Fortunately I had not handed the envelope to her at the start, it was still in my shirt pocket. As I left I dropped $ on the table in the entry, if for no other reason to show good faith towards the agency, which has rarely disappointed me this way in the past. I was there only about 15 minutes. We didn't say a word to each other as I left. I felt disturbed and upset.
Back in my car I called the booker, with whom I have long had good relations, and explained why I left. She was sympathetic, said some girls just don't have warmth, indicated this provider has gotten mixed feedback. She thanked me genuinely for leaving $, and seemed to agree this was not my fault. It was a nice conversation and I'm glad I didn't burn any bridges with this agency.
What next? It's been a couple of years since I tried a Chinese provider, but I had the number of a nearby Chinese condo, and I still had enough to cover the $. 6 tariff. So I made a quick call and off I went.
"KeKe" met me cheerfully in the garage and we rode the elevator together up to the dingy apt. She said she was 28 but looked around 40, body a bit thick but decent. I well know that the service you get is usually commensurate with the price, so I went in with lowered expectations. It turned out just about how I expected. I asked her for water, she had no glass and gave it to me in a bowl! No DFK, nixed back door play and FIV, gave CBJ and covered missionary to completion. What made it tolerable was that she was affectionate and seemed to genuinely enjoy herself, which was such a relief that I accepted half a loaf gladly. She doesn't speak English and I don't speak Chinese, so we were reduced to using the translation program on her phone to communicate. She asked me to come back again. There was no pressure to leave but since we couldn't really talk there was no point in prolonging the visit. I was out of there in about forty minutes.
You can't always hit a home run in this hobby. Today I barely eked out a single.You actually left a Benji cause of your relationship with the Agency? Ambi, WTF dude I woulda left 20 and said nothing. Your booker woulda not said a single word to you as well. I'm sure this was a $$$ K Agency or 260.
With the Chinese gals, its all work for the most part for them. They have bills to pay and LV bags to buy so in most cases YMMV. Of course in Socal, they all become my gfs for the hour or 2. No where in NOVA can you get 2 hours and MSOG with a decent looking MILF for 100 dolla. Yes that's my rate 100 dolla inc house fee.
PC out.
Well she coming back, she also has new phone PM for #
333953333954333950333951333952.
"pretty much".
BBBJCIMPM?
What's CIMPM?
Zack Lawrence
07-20-14, 18:54
I use to think of this girl as a sugar baby but it turns out she's more of a UTR because she's been seeing folks off of CL. Anyone interested in meeting her? Not the best but not bad either. If you don't have any history of posting here, don't bother PMing me.She is cute I wish I lived in your area. I lived in Little Creek for a few moths about 13 years ago.
Well she coming back, she also has new phone PM for #
333953333954333950333951333952.AJ,
Thats one hot Chiquita mama. Can you pm me number and damages and menu please.
PC out.
I keep using poor judgement despite seeing red flags for escort services. I was intrigued by Julie on dreamescortdc so decided to make an appointment. Nina had some terrible mixed and fake reviews but Julie had positives and possibly fake. She looked smoking hot on her pics and while I expected a fair amount of airbrushing etc. I thought that due to their high prices the girls in the pictures were real.
Boy was I wrong, she looked nothing like her picture. Caked on makeup revealed some bad skin, she looked to be at least 25 lbs heavier, and her face just didn't look right. An agency rep was with her and swiped my cc and even though I only wanted an hour for $3 I was told it was a 2 hr minimum for $5 Additionally Julie made up some bs that she works on tips and wanted an additional $3 I talked her down to $$ since she said I was "good looking and nice". I saw both of these come up in some oThER reviews but it was mostly for the other girl Nina. So basically I coughed up $7 for a really unattractive girl. In hindsight I should have just paid $$ and told her to leave and save myself some money. She was friendly at least but wanted to talk too much. When we got down to business I could not manage to stay erect because I was not attracted at all to her. To her credit she did give an effort but after awhile I told her its not going to happen tonight.
I don't think I'm cut out for this hobby nor can I afford it and this rate. Anyway thanks for reading and stay away from dreamescortdc.
I keep using poor judgement despite seeing red flags for escort services. I was intrigued by Julie on dreamescortdc so decided to make an appointment. Nina had some terrible mixed and fake reviews but Julie had positives and possibly fake. She looked smoking hot on her pics and while I expected a fair amount of airbrushing etc. I thought that due to their high prices the girls in the pictures were real.
Boy was I wrong, she looked nothing like her picture. Caked on makeup revealed some bad skin, she looked to be at least 25 lbs heavier, and her face just didn't look right. An agency rep was with her and swiped my cc and even though I only wanted an hour for $3 I was told it was a 2 hr minimum for $5 Additionally Julie made up some bs that she works on tips and wanted an additional $3 I talked her down to $$ since she said I was "good looking and nice". I saw both of these come up in some oThER reviews but it was mostly for the other girl Nina. So basically I coughed up $7 for a really unattractive girl. In hindsight I should have just paid $$ and told her to leave and save myself some money. She was friendly at least but wanted to talk too much. When we got down to business I could not manage to stay erect because I was not attracted at all to her. To her credit she did give an effort but after awhile I told her its not going to happen tonight.
I don't think I'm cut out for this hobby nor can I afford it and this rate. Anyway thanks for reading and stay away from dreamescortdc.You got taken to the cleaners, my friend! If you want to continue in this hobby you need to do a lot more homework. Just like a carpenter measures twice, cuts once, you need to RTFF a lot before you make any more moves.
One of the things you would have found in the forum is how dicey a proposition an outcall (to your place) is. I've written time and again that an outcall gives all the advantage and power to the provider or agency. Had you visited the provider you would have been able to walk when you saw that she didn't look like her pics. And if she asked for a cancellation fee, you could have simply said no and walked away. When they come to you, they can cause a scene that makes things embarrasing for you so that puts the pressure on you.
Also, don't try to run before you can walk. You're going to make some mistakes so don't make them with the highest priced girls out there. Look for recommendations made in the forum by members who post field reports. Take the time to write a review for the oThER site (PM me if you don't know what that is) and then search for well-reviewed providers in your area.
This hobby isn't rocket science, it just takes some basic homework and a little chutzpah.
Member #4911
07-26-14, 11:45
I keep using poor judgement despite seeing red flags for escort services. I was intrigued by Julie on dreamescortdc so decided to make an appointment. Nina had some terrible mixed and fake reviews but Julie had positives and possibly fake. She looked smoking hot on her pics and while I expected a fair amount of airbrushing etc. I thought that due to their high prices the girls in the pictures were real.
Boy was I wrong, she looked nothing like her picture. Caked on makeup revealed some bad skin, she looked to be at least 25 lbs heavier, and her face just didn't look right. An agency rep was with her and swiped my cc and even though I only wanted an hour for $3 I was told it was a 2 hr minimum for $5 Additionally Julie made up some bs that she works on tips and wanted an additional $3 I talked her down to $$ since she said I was "good looking and nice". I saw both of these come up in some oThER reviews but it was mostly for the other girl Nina. So basically I coughed up $7 for a really unattractive girl. In hindsight I should have just paid $$ and told her to leave and save myself some money. She was friendly at least but wanted to talk too much. When we got down to business I could not manage to stay erect because I was not attracted at all to her. To her credit she did give an effort but after awhile I told her its not going to happen tonight.
I don't think I'm cut out for this hobby nor can I afford it and this rate. Anyway thanks for reading and stay away from dreamescortdc.
I wasn't following your price point notes at first, so looked up this agency, and was shocked! $$$$$ and $$ tip for $$$$$$$ and you didn't like her. Ugh. You're playing outside of my league at those price points, but say I just won a big lottery payout and wanted to play with an advertised goddess for 2-hr at that price point, she had better be a goddess in person per my optic. Damn near perfect spinner and GFE++++ for me! ;) Try some less expensive options and stretch your funds out a bit for more fun. And unless you are at a hotel checking out the next morning (could still be a problem given you likely registered and paid for your hotel under your real name vice your monger name. Another point. Don't use your real name, use a monger name. I am guessing none of these gals use their real name so its all good), I would not recommend out-call, but opinions vary on this and everyone has different considerations to factor what works best for them. Always learning .
BTW their ad does show "$$$ for 1-hr out-call to your upscale hotel or residence" - so for them to say there is a 2-hr minimum was BS! Not that I ever plan to do business with them... but hope others do not as well after your experience.
You got taken to the cleaners, my friend! If you want to continue in this hobby you need to do a lot more homework. Just like a carpenter measures twice, cuts once, you need to RTFF a lot before you make any more moves.
One of the things you would have found in the forum is how dicey a proposition an outcall (to your place) is. I've written time and again that an outcall gives all the advantage and power to the provider or agency. Had you visited the provider you would have been able to walk when you saw that she didn't look like her pics. And if she asked for a cancellation fee, you could have simply said no and walked away. When they come to you, they can cause a scene that makes things embarrasing for you so that puts the pressure on you.
Also, don't try to run before you can walk. You're going to make some mistakes so don't make them with the highest priced girls out there. Look for recommendations made in the forum by members who post field reports. Take the time to write a review for the oThER site (PM me if you don't know what that is) and then search for well-reviewed providers in your area.
This hobby isn't rocket science, it just takes some basic homework and a little chutzpah.Thanks for the responses. I agree with everything you said. However, my options are very limited due to the fact that I'm unable to provide employment info and therefore get screened. The floodgates will remain locked unless a senior member is feeling generous and get me a reference somehow. Happy hunting guys and stay safe, I will stick to AMPs for now.
Thanks for the responses. I agree with everything you said. However, my options are very limited due to the fact that I'm unable to provide employment info and therefore get screened. The floodgates will remain locked unless a senior member is feeling generous and get me a reference somehow. Happy hunting guys and stay safe, I will stick to AMPs for now.Nothing I wrote was intended to steer you toward the higher priced agencies which require employment info for screening purposes. F*ck that! I refuse to provide that kind of personal info and I don't give any of those outfits my business.
But that doesn't mean the gates are locked, quite the opposite. There are a ton of independent providers out there who have no (or minimal) screening requirements and many of them have been reviewed both in this forum and on the oThER site. That's the field in which you should be plowing. If you want to set your sights a little higher (and pricier) then look on Eros but again steer clear of the agency girls and stick with the independents. Many of the good ones proudly post links to their reviews or will tell you their review number if you ask. So use AMPs as your backup plan, but don't be afraid to do the homework and branch out.
And I think we've said enough about outcall. I never have a provider come to me because it puts me at too much of a disadvantage. I always want to have the option of walking away from any transaction without any drama.
There have been posts a plenty about how the Washington DC market and NOVA is particular are high priced, particularly in terms of their services, however this week The Economist magazine, although they refer to themselves as a newspaper, did a tremendous cover story about the business of sex and how the Internet is an industry disrupt or making it easier and safer to work in the world's oldest profession.
The first eye opener is that, adjusting for inflation, we should be paying $395 for full service.
Although they did not mention it by name, I'm pretty sure the frequented The othER board for much of their research.
They also calculated the premium paid / earned for thinks like two girls, spanking or anal.
All told we may not have it so bad, but having mongered in Argentina, Singapore and Venezuela, I love getting at least a good half hour of more for under $100.
What a great time for a British mongered to be caught by his wife only to tell her" But lovie, I'm doing research for The Economist!
There have been posts a plenty about how the Washington DC market and NOVA is particular are high priced, particularly in terms of their services, however this week The Economist magazine, although they refer to themselves as a newspaper, did a tremendous cover story about the business of sex and how the Internet is an industry disrupt or making it easier and safer to work in the world's oldest profession.
The first eye opener is that, adjusting for inflation, we should be paying $395 for full service.
Although they did not mention it by name, I'm pretty sure the frequented The othER board for much of their research.
They also calculated the premium paid / earned for thinks like two girls, spanking or anal.
All told we may not have it so bad, but having mongered in Argentina, Singapore and Venezuela, I love getting at least a good half hour of more for under $100.
What a great time for a British mongered to be caught by his wife only to tell her" But lovie, I'm doing research for The Economist!www.economist.com/news/briefing/21611074-how-new-technology-shaking-up-oldest-business-more-bang-your-buck
They make some interesting points but I'm always skeptical of analyses that say what prices "should" be when adjusted for inflation. The problem with those kinds of statements is they usually use an assumption that all prices go up in a linear fashion at the general rate of inflation. Since that obviously isn't true with the hobby, there must be other factors at play. If you read further in the article it's clear that one of those factors is that supply has gone up and in some cases demand has gone down. Countries which have had economic downturns have seen an increase in new providers who start in the hobby to make extra money or because they lost their regular job. Clients who have less disposable income have also either cut down on their hobbying or are seeking out lower cost options. And the existence of the internet just makes it easier for both provider and client to find what suits their needs.
IMHO, the problem in the DMV region is that our government-centric economy is more resistant to the kinds of economic pressures that affect other areas. Providers have figured this out and they come here and charge higher prices than they would elsewhere. Horny mongers with more $ than sense fuel the problem by paying whatever is asked because they have the resources and don't have time (or inclination) to do proper homework.
But, unless you move to another area or have the ability to take hobby-trips, that's the market we live in and we just have to suck it up and do the best we can.
Roamin Roman
08-12-14, 20:00
Thanks for the responses. I agree with everything you said. However, my options are very limited due to the fact that I'm unable to provide employment info and therefore get screened. The floodgates will remain locked unless a senior member is feeling generous and get me a reference somehow. Happy hunting guys and stay safe, I will stick to AMPs for now.
Nothing I wrote was intended to steer you toward the higher priced agencies which require employment info for screening purposes. F*ck that! I refuse to provide that kind of personal info and I don't give any of those outfits my business.
But that doesn't mean the gates are locked, quite the opposite. There are a ton of independent providers out there who have no (or minimal) screening requirements.Agree with JmSuttr's words, although I'd even go a little further. There's just TOO much risk in providing any verifiable information about yourself, even "light screening. " There are enough other providers about whom any of us can obtain sufficient info / details to know whether that provider is worth a visit. If a provider tells me during a phone call (or, worse, after I arrive) that she requires screening, even "light screening," my reply is that I'm willing to give her the same info that she's requesting of me. That usually ends the "screening" nonsense. If not, I leave (or terminate the phone call) without any drama on my part.
JmSuttr is right about avoiding agency girls (and ALL outcalls) and just sticking with independents. However, some girl who appears to be an independent MIGHT occasionally be a sting, and that is why you need to do your research. Nothing substitutes for doing your homework. If the girl is just too good to be true (TGTBT), or if she looks legit but there are no reviews of her in any of the usual sites on the 'Net, it's best to stay clear of her. If she's legit (and a good provider), she'll be around for a while and reviews will start appearing.
Hope this helps. Be smart, be careful, and stay safe.
RR.
Jackman302
08-15-14, 14:12
Its been a while since I've been out of town and since I am home in NOVA for a while I haven't gotten action. I was wondering if anyone remembers the fun on Quann in Woodbridge and if anything still goes on over there? Anyone will to help me out would be appreciated!
JM.
Ambidextrous
08-26-14, 18:40
"Morgan" is Laotian, 27, fairly pretty, speaks decent English. Always interesting to try a new nationality. All communication before the visit, including screening, was by text. Her Tysons Corner hotel room opens to the street, no need to pass through a common area.
Morgan has a robust body, big breasts and a kind, welcoming manner. Because she knew the drill and seemed comfortable she seemed like a veteran but said she's only done this work for 6 months. Affectionate and cooperative, unlimited kissing and touching, allowed DATO but no finger penetration. After initial obviously fake sound effects, seemed to get off pretty well from extended DATY and a small egg-shaped vibrator I brought along.
Did several positions enthusiastically and agreed to finish with BBBJ w / PM. Nixed CIF for the familiar reason: "makeup. " Although her BJ technique was pretty good I needed to use my hand to finish and when I did she covered me with her hand to avoid getting splattered on the face. Disappointing but understandable.
Damage for 1 hour: 3 x $. On the excellent Z-scale: Face 7, Body 7, Attitude 8, Service 7 1/2.
"Morgan" is Laotian, 27, fairly pretty, speaks decent English. Always interesting to try a new nationality. All communication before the visit, including screening, was by text. Her Tysons Corner hotel room opens to the street, no need to pass through a common area.
Morgan has a robust body, big breasts and a kind, welcoming manner. Because she knew the drill and seemed comfortable she seemed like a veteran but said she's only done this work for 6 months. Affectionate and cooperative, unlimited kissing and touching, allowed DATO but no finger penetration. After initial obviously fake sound effects, seemed to get off pretty well from extended DATY and a small egg-shaped vibrator I brought along.
Did several positions enthusiastically and agreed to finish with BBBJ w / PM. Nixed CIF for the familiar reason: "makeup. " Although her BJ technique was pretty good I needed to use my hand to finish and when I did she covered me with her hand to avoid getting splattered on the face. Disappointing but understandable.
Damage for 1 hour: 3 x $. On the excellent Z-scale: Face 7, Body 7, Attitude 8, Service 7 1/2.There are multiple providers out there using the name Morgan. Not sure which one is the subject of your report.
Bunker Buster
08-26-14, 18:58
"Morgan" is Laotian, 27, fairly pretty, speaks decent English. Always interesting to try a new nationality. All communication before the visit, including screening, was by text. Her Tysons Corner hotel room opens to the street, no need to pass through a common area.
There are a few Morgans on Backpage, but none that are Laotian.
In my experience, passing through a common area to a hotel room is better than knocking on a door in plain view of the entire parking lot and observation posts across the street. It's much harder to notice frequent visitors to a door on an interior hallway, and you can always walk in the lobby and out the back stairs.
I don't get your way much anymore so when I do I really was NEEDING to see the girls at the FCCC but when I called 202-XXX-X000 there was a quick dump to VM and then no answer at all!
If you will, PLEASE PM me the numbers for the TCCC (s) that you know of and I will gladly provide some phone numbers of some interesting women around Richmond.
Thanks!
WATTA sad situation to get up to NoVa with no good phone numbers!
Ambidextrous
10-22-14, 15:20
In her ad "Angie" looks like a robo-babe. The ad does not list any agency, but I hoped she was a K-girl because that is my preference. I booked a 10 am appointment, arrived on time and texted her. She texted me to wait "5 minutes," which turned into 10, then she texted me the room number. Game face on, I strolled calmly through the hotel lobby and up the elevator I went.
Angie turned out to be a very attractive Thai girl, but by the time I got inside the room it was 15 minutes past the hour and I was afraid of clock-watching. I asked if she had another appointment after me. There was a language barrier but I understood her to say that her next appointment was at ten minutes after 11, leaving me 55 minutes at most. Being shorted on time because she was not ready is a deal-breaker for me, so I explained and politely bailed, which she accepted although I don't know if she understood the reason.
From my car I called my two go-to K-agencies, but no immediate appointment was available. Then I thought of the Chinese condo located on Lincoln Way. I have had their number for several years and I don't even know where (or if) they advertise these days. The rate has been $. 6/ h since I first went there. I knew I was taking a chance on the service I might get, but I was on a mission, so I called and was able to book an immediate appointment. They have changed locations so I had to find the new place, not far away.
Behind the door in the darkened room stood "Coco," about 30, not very pretty but a perfect body, perky be-cups and flat stomach. She smiled thinly but was not warm, seemed a little shy and spoke very little English. She did not seem to like to kiss, but I still gave her all the affection I could. Her pussy was as perfect as it comes and I thoroughly enjoyed giving her a long unhurried DATY which culminated in a climax that I believe was as fully satisfying to her as it was to me.
Slipped on a condom and we went at it in several positions for about ten minutes. She enjoyed it but resisted kissing, disappointing to me. I prefer to finish with BBBJ so I took off the condom and motioned to her mouth. To my surprise she shook her head no. I reminded myself that this was not the K-service I am used to so I straddled her and using her hand and mine, finished on her excellent chest. Though she held her hand up to shield her face I still dumped a major load on her. I enjoyed it immensely, but she made a face like it was distasteful and immediately headed to the bathroom to clean up. It seems that providers who like having come in their mouth or on their body (or at least act as if they do) exist only in porn.
After we cleaned up I figured she was disgusted with me but there was still some time left, so I laid down on the bed and motioned for her to cuddle with me. She did so and to my surprise even seemed affectionate, so we enjoyed a moment of quiet closeness. I guess she had no hard feelings after all.
I can't deny that I got a lot of pleasure and saved over a hundred bucks, but this experience confirmed to me that the premium you pay for a K-girl is worth it.
On the excellent Z-scale: Face 6, Body 9, Attitude 6, Service 5.
"Morgan" is Laotian, 27, fairly pretty, speaks decent English. Always interesting to try a new nationality. All communication before the visit, including screening, was by text. Her Tysons Corner hotel room opens to the street, no need to pass through a common area.
Morgan has a robust body, big breasts and a kind, welcoming manner. Because she knew the drill and seemed comfortable she seemed like a veteran but said she's only done this work for 6 months. Affectionate and cooperative, unlimited kissing and touching, allowed DATO but no finger penetration. After initial obviously fake sound effects, seemed to get off pretty well from extended DATY and a small egg-shaped vibrator I brought along.
Did several positions enthusiastically and agreed to finish with BBBJ w / PM. Nixed CIF for the familiar reason: "makeup. " Although her BJ technique was pretty good I needed to use my hand to finish and when I did she covered me with her hand to avoid getting splattered on the face. Disappointing but understandable.
Damage for 1 hour: 3 x $. On the excellent Z-scale: Face 7, Body 7, Attitude 8, Service 7 1/2.Thanks for keeping the escort thread hot Amb. You're a good man, and you're right, it is a good scale my friend. Hah!
Zhuxi.
Ambidextrous
10-31-14, 07:52
Viki is young and does not have a feel for the job. Fussy, bossy, stopped me many times (don't touch hair or face), faked O, poor BJ technique. I felt she does not like this activity and has no idea what a man wants. I was disappointed big time and because this has happened a couple of times at this agency (Barbara) I am going to try to go elsewhere for a while. My experience FWIW. Face 8 Body 8 Attitude 2 Service 2
Member #4932
11-01-14, 04:10
In her ad "Angie" looks like a robo-babe. The ad does not list any agency, but I hoped she was a K-girl because that is my preference. I booked a 10 am appointment, arrived on time and texted her. She texted me to wait "5 minutes," which turned into 10, then she texted me the room number. Game face on, I strolled calmly through the hotel lobby and up the elevator I went.
Angie turned out to be a very attractive Thai girl, but by the time I got inside the room it was 15 minutes past the hour and I was afraid of clock-watching. I asked if she had another appointment after me. There was a language barrier but I understood her to say that her next appointment was at ten minutes after 11, leaving me 55 minutes at most. Being shorted on time because she was not ready is a deal-breaker for me, so I explained and politely bailed, which she accepted although I don't know if she understood the reason.
From my car I called my two go-to K-agencies, but no immediate appointment was available. Then I thought of the Chinese condo located on Lincoln Way. I have had their number for several years and I don't even know where (or if) they advertise these days. The rate has been $. 6/ h since I first went there. I knew I was taking a chance on the service I might get, but I was on a mission, so I called and was able to book an immediate appointment. They have changed locations so I had to find the new place, not far away.
Behind the door in the darkened room stood "Coco," about 30, not very pretty but a perfect body, perky be-cups and flat stomach. She smiled thinly but was not warm, seemed a little shy and spoke very little English. She did not seem to like to kiss, but I still gave her all the affection I could. Her pussy was as perfect as it comes and I thoroughly enjoyed giving her a long unhurried DATY which culminated in a climax that I believe was as fully satisfying to her as it was to me.
Slipped on a condom and we went at it in several positions for about ten minutes. She enjoyed it but resisted kissing, disappointing to me. I prefer to finish with BBBJ so I took off the condom and motioned to her mouth. To my surprise she shook her head no. I reminded myself that this was not the K-service I am used to so I straddled her and using her hand and mine, finished on her excellent chest. Though she held her hand up to shield her face I still dumped a major load on her. I enjoyed it immensely, but she made a face like it was distasteful and immediately headed to the bathroom to clean up. It seems that providers who like having come in their mouth or on their body (or at least act as if they do) exist only in porn.
After we cleaned up I figured she was disgusted with me but there was still some time left, so I laid down on the bed and motioned for her to cuddle with me. She did so and to my surprise even seemed affectionate, so we enjoyed a moment of quiet closeness. I guess she had no hard feelings after all.
I can't deny that I got a lot of pleasure and saved over a hundred bucks, but this experience confirmed to me that the premium you pay for a K-girl is worth it.
On the excellent Z-scale: Face 6, Body 9, Attitude 6, Service 5.You need to find one or two gals that like COF or swallow and stick to them?
Ambidextrous
11-16-14, 09:23
I could not find any reviews on Miko but her ad looked OK so I decided to take a chance. In the ad she said she "provides an incredible GFE. " On the phone she quoted me 3 $/ h, a premium price that in this area gets you BBBJCIM. Arrived at her Tyson's Corner hotel, she was ready on time.
Miko said she is Japanese, maybe so but she speaks English like a native. Her ad says she is 27 but I would give her ten years more than that. She has also gained weight since the ad photos were taken (or they were photoshopped). While the ad photos might show a 7 or 8 in attractiveness, in person she is about a 5.
A provider of marginal attractiveness who charges 3 $/ h had better at least give good service. But I quickly ran into problems when she put a condom on me right away and refused DATY, saying it was for health reasons.
She had asked me for payment when I disrobed and I put the envelope containing 3 $ on the dresser. When she declined DATY and seemed intent on following her own agenda I lost the little enthusiasm I had and decided to abort the mission. I told her that her limitations were a turnoff, put my clothes back on, and said I wanted my money back. She said she doesn't give money back, but I picked the envelope up from where I left it, took out $60 and put it on the dresser, and left. I said I felt $60 was more than fair for the ten minutes I had been there. She was angry and said nothing as I left, although I said "Sorry about that. ".
This should have been a wakeup call for her. This kind of provider might be worth $. 5/ h at the most. Buyer beware.
Bunker Buster
11-16-14, 15:50
I could not find any reviews on Miko but her ad looked OK so I decided to take a chance. In the ad she said she "provides an incredible GFE. " On the phone she quoted me 3 $/ h, a premium price that in this area gets you BBBJCIM. Arrived at her Tyson's Corner hotel, she was ready on time.
Miko said she is Japanese, maybe so but she speaks English like a native. Her ad says she is 27 but I would give her ten years more than that. She has also gained weight since the ad photos were taken (or they were photoshopped). While the ad photos might show a 7 or 8 in attractiveness, in person she is about a 5.
A provider of marginal attractiveness who charges 3 $/ h had better at least give good service. But I quickly ran into problems when she put a condom on me right away and refused DATY, saying it was for health reasons.
She had asked me for payment when I disrobed and I put the envelope containing 3 $ on the dresser. When she declined DATY and seemed intent on following her own agenda I lost the little enthusiasm I had and decided to abort the mission. I told her that her limitations were a turnoff, put my clothes back on, and said I wanted my money back. She said she doesn't give money back, but I picked the envelope up from where I left it, took out $60 and put it on the dresser, and left. I said I felt $60 was more than fair for the ten minutes I had been there. She was angry and said nothing as I left, although I said "Sorry about that. ".
This should have been a wakeup call for her. This kind of provider might be worth $. 5/ h at the most. Buyer beware.You must be doing well to roll the dice at $300 on a pig in a poke. No reviews, fake pix, and there's a 5 behind Door #1, but you still laid down that coin? If we lived in the 1700's, we'd put you in the stocks and throw fruit at you to shame you into better behavior. At least you had the good sense to abort and walk out with $240, so we'll only keep you in the stocks for a few minutes.
My rule is worth repeating here: for an unknown, unreviewed provider, start with the shortest-available session. Don't pour your life savings into a speculative land deal before even seeing the soil test, LOL. Once you've seen her, and things are going well, you can always suggest extending, and I've rarely heard of a girl who refuses more money.
If things don't go well, you're only out $60-$120, leaving you more than enough for a make-up visit with someone else.
And why are you still messing around with the Asian ads which have been proven over and over and over to be fake pix? The girl in the room is ALWAYS 10+ years older, 3 points lower in appearance, and no better than a 5-6 in performance.
$300 is a lot of money, even in DC. If you're determined to drop $300, there are some well-reviewed, Grade-A girls around town that hit 9-10 on the civilian scale, and you're guaranteed an 8-9 experience. If I were going to spend that kind of $, I'd go see someone like Bedroom Barbie, a well-reviewed Roanoke girl who travels around the state. She's phenomenal looking, and has great reviews.
http://www.bedroombarbie.com/
Drunker Irish
11-16-14, 19:27
She had asked me for payment when I disrobed and I put the envelope containing 3 $ on the dresser. When she declined DATY and seemed intent on following her own agenda I lost the little enthusiasm I had and decided to abort the mission. I told her that her limitations were a turnoff, put my clothes back on, and said I wanted my money back. She said she doesn't give money back, but I picked the envelope up from where I left it, took out $60 and put it on the dresser, and left. I said I felt $60 was more than fair for the ten minutes I had been there. She was angry and said nothing as I left, although I said "Sorry about that. ".Good on you.
I wouldn't feel bad or apologized either. We need to learn as customers to be more assertive. I think you could have taken back $200 with no problem IMHO.
I could not find any reviews on Miko but her ad looked OK so I decided to take a chance. In the ad she said she "provides an incredible GFE. " On the phone she quoted me 3 $/ h, a premium price that in this area gets you BBBJCIM. Arrived at her Tyson's Corner hotel, she was ready on time.
Miko said she is Japanese, maybe so but she speaks English like a native. Her ad says she is 27 but I would give her ten years more than that. She has also gained weight since the ad photos were taken (or they were photoshopped). While the ad photos might show a 7 or 8 in attractiveness, in person she is about a 5.
A provider of marginal attractiveness who charges 3 $/ h had better at least give good service. But I quickly ran into problems when she put a condom on me right away and refused DATY, saying it was for health reasons.
She had asked me for payment when I disrobed and I put the envelope containing 3 $ on the dresser. When she declined DATY and seemed intent on following her own agenda I lost the little enthusiasm I had and decided to abort the mission. I told her that her limitations were a turnoff, put my clothes back on, and said I wanted my money back. She said she doesn't give money back, but I picked the envelope up from where I left it, took out $60 and put it on the dresser, and left. I said I felt $60 was more than fair for the ten minutes I had been there. She was angry and said nothing as I left, although I said "Sorry about that. ".
This should have been a wakeup call for her. This kind of provider might be worth $. 5/ h at the most. Buyer beware.First, I'm assuming this is the (incredible GFE) Miko to whom you're referring:
http://www.eros.com/us/washington_dc/files/520423.htm
I heartily concur with the sage advice posted by BB and in addition I would like to offer the observation that a simple google search of the number would have led you to an ad using the EXACT same wording (except for the name) even including the way the text in the ad is underlined, which should have been a red flag.
http://www.eros.com/us/washington_dc/files/509655.htm
The second ad, even without doing a search on the photos (which come back to porn sites, BTW), would have clued you in to the fact you weren't dealing with an independent and would at least have put you more on your guard.
Also, 646 is a NYC prefix and while there are a number of great, legit providers who visit from NYC there are also plenty of scam agencies and individual scam providers who prey on gullible and horny hobbyists. At a minimum, IMHO, a NYC phone prefix is an indicator that extra homework is warranted.
And the fact the girl who opened the door was a 5 instead of the advertised 8+ should have been the final red flag to make you walk away. Here's why: when a low-to-med priced BP girl doesn't match her pics that's not ideal but not altogether unexpected. But it's much more unusual when a supposedly top-notch, high-end, sophisticated provider (who advertises herself in superlative terms) is so far off the mark. A true high-end provider is generally very concerned about her reputation and is less likely to misrepresent herself or her services. The minute you saw a 5 on the other side of the door it meant there was absolutely nothing about the ad you could trust.
If you're in the mood for a $300 girl, then do a search on the oThER site, or Eros or BP with the price as your search parameter and then do some homework on those search results. Or, if you're in the mood for Asian providers, search specifically for them and let those results guide your homework efforts.
No matter what process you use, a little homework is absolutely a better way to save yourself the time, aggravation and $ you waste when you wing it and hope for the best.
P.S. Extremely lucky for you she didn't have a "manager" nearby when you decided to take back part of the fee. If she had, that situation could have gone sideways in a hurry, and not in a good way.
P. P.S. All the EROS ads look good, including (or maybe, especially) the scam ones.
My man you are more than familiar with the agencies. For the 300, the quality is almost always 8+ looks wise (l hesitate to say always, but I haven't been disappointed by an agency looks wise yet), and the experience is solid. Stick to those Ambidexterious. I have frequented one (and reviewed it without naming) - I'll post a newer review on it a bit, but my experiences have all been close to an A grade. Which for me means worth the cash without all the hassle of BP. I believe we have talked about it before, but PM if you want the agency I speak of, since it sounds like you might be tired of your goto's.
Bunker and Jm always have good takes.
Zhuxi.
Viki is young and does not have a feel for the job. Fussy, bossy, stopped me many times (don't touch hair or face), faked O, poor BJ technique. I felt she does not like this activity and has no idea what a man wants. I was disappointed big time and because this has happened a couple of times at this agency (Barbara) I am going to try to go elsewhere for a while. My experience FWIW. Face 8 Body 8 Attitude 2 Service 2Sorry to be late for report. Barbara had some physical issues like weak legs and arm, struggling to stand straight, felt weird. Just disappointed with the agency recently. All were good in past.
Sky is a little taller then the add stated 5'7" or 5'8" great worker easy on the eyes to. Would repeat.
http://www.topluminousva.com/#!new-/ ccxs.
Round The Way
12-01-14, 00:27
Good on you.
I wouldn't feel bad or apologized either. We need to learn as customers to be more assertive. I think you could have taken back $200 with no problem IMHO.He took back 240 and left her only $60.
Sorry to be late for report. Barbara had some physical issues like weak legs and arm, struggling to stand straight, felt weird. Just disappointed with the agency recently. All were good in past.Saw Karla recently from same group, and was above average. She was a spinner and very tall. Attitude 9, appearance 8 , skill 7 which is similar to the experiences in the past. Now I have a feeling to check back them again.
Va Fun Tymes
12-15-14, 08:39
Anyone have a lady I should see while in the area? Thanks for any help.
Bunker Buster
12-15-14, 16:29
Anyone have a lady I should see while in the area? Thanks for any help.With a ten-year posting history of traveling around and asking for recommendations, have you thought about posting up a thank-you after moving on, or maybe more than one review every other year?
Visiting seniors are usually extended all courtesies around the country, but there is such a thing as taking unfair advantage. One might be skeptical about your pre-travel research; even seniors should read back on local boards before traveling.
My experience has been that when you read back, look through ads, search reviews, then post or send PMs to local members showing that you've made the effort, they'll open the spigot for you.
If you have a question about a girl you've looked up, or especially questions about which areas are safe or dangerous, I'd be happy to steer you in the right direction, but maybe you could balance the 'take' side of the scale a bit with the occasional 'give'?
Va Fun Tymes
12-15-14, 19:43
With a ten-year posting history of traveling around and asking for recommendations, have you thought about posting up a thank-you after moving on, or maybe more than one review every other year?
Visiting seniors are usually extended all courtesies around the country, but there is such a thing as taking unfair advantage. One might be skeptical about your pre-travel research; even seniors should read back on local boards before traveling.
My experience has been that when you read back, look through ads, search reviews, then post or send PMs to local members showing that you've made the effort, they'll open the spigot for you.
If you have a question about a girl you've looked up, or especially questions about which areas are safe or dangerous, I'd be happy to steer you in the right direction, but maybe you could balance the 'take' side of the scale a bit with the occasional 'give'?No worries there BB. I do my share of passing info along. Most of my friends prefer to pass info through PM. I try not to bring attention if someone dosent want to be known for sharing info.
If you ever make it to Richmond, Orlando, or Seattle I will glady pass a smile or three your way.
Thanks.
Hello everyone, new member here.
Does anyone know anything about Bridgett Goulart / Stephanie? Here is her website:
http://www.jetsetbridgett.net/about.html
Her other website I'd is 161996.
She's got a lot of reviews, but almost all of them are from 2012, except for 2 recent ones.
Vamassage Fan
01-14-15, 00:12
Opted for a Chinese Nuru session. Pics are younger than she is but she was still attractive and young enough (mid 30's my guess) to be quite tight and enjoyable.
Not quite the Nuru I expected but had a great time for the price. Would repeat.
Seniors pm for details.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-young-asian-all-naturalandvery-sensitive-nude-nuru/16712962
DcFishMonger
02-06-15, 05:35
Opted for a Chinese Nuru session. Pics are younger than she is but she was still attractive and young enough (mid 30's my guess) to be quite tight and enjoyable.
Not quite the Nuru I expected but had a great time for the price. Would repeat.
Seniors pm for details.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-young-asian-all-naturalandvery-sensitive-nude-nuru/16712962If you're a fan of nuru, there's three Thai and one white who offer the real deal in the NoVA area. BP always claims it, but none of them have any idea as they're all the not so unexpectedly disappointing, low quality see-girls we've all encountered at one point. Of the three Thai, I've only seen A recently. She's great, but avoid if you're allergic to cats. Be is the most consistent, but the years have not been all too kind as she's been ridden hard by many. I've lost touch with E as she was always "on vacation". J is decent, but too amazonian for my tastes.
Stay safe & GLHF!
Asian girl in VA. Would like to hear your experience with this girl.
Roamin Roman
02-08-15, 07:23
Asian girl in VA. Would like to hear your experience with this girl.Interesting, that your first three posts (one in the NoVa board, one in the DC board, and one in the Richmond board) have all been to ask about other members' experiences with Xkittenx. On the Richmond board, you even recommend that others avoid her.
Aside from this "broad" query, the fact that you've not shared any of your own experience with her is not something that will incline others to share theirs. Additionally, the fact that you have no other posting history, yet expect others to supply private details with someone who is basically a stranger, is another thing that will disincline others from sharing. Further, there is a possibility that you might be LEO posing as a legitimate monger. It's rumored that LEO does that on various sites, from time to time.
Please bear in mind: If you do not receive any responses, it's not because other members are stingy and unwilling to share. Instead, it's probably because you, being a new member, have not shared anything with the community first. Information is the "coin of the realm" here. Those who share information on these boards obtained that info via expenditure of (a) their hard-earned dollars and (b) their limited and generally valuable personal free time. Asking for that information, gratis, is thus bad form.
As ol' Desert Pete once said: "You've got to give before you get." Just an observation and a small bit of (hopefully) helpful advice.
- Roman.
I have been on USA for a while but have not posted much. Mostly interested in Ladies who are wutr (way under the radar). GFE or close and worth the price. Roxanna on BP is all she says and can be more. Maybe hard to find but go for the early special. I know a couple ladies who like to have a good time with gentlemen if they like you and your compensation for innocent companionship. Asian 30's. Very nice to talk to and Cambodian 20's very sweet to be with.
I am willing to trade info for ladies in the area. I like older ladies and really looking for a friend my age that likes to talk and have some fun.
I'm tempted to try a provider named Jin and from past reports, on here and from the other site, it says you have to pass a screening by her handler (a male).
If anyone has seen Jin, can you tell me what type of screening is involved? If it's calling / emailing me at work to confirm my work employment, that will be non-starter. Backchannel if you would like. Thanks.
Hello,
I have recently decided to try and see one of the girls at one of the local K-girl agencies. The problem is, all the girls I have seen are from BP and when I try to use them as references I never hear back from the K-girl screener. Does anybody know of any good "newb friendly" providers in the area that don't require references but can be used as a reference later? Oh I have seen Jin, so that can be 1 of 3 references I need. Thanks for any help guys, PM if you could.
Interesting, that your first three posts (one in the NoVa board, one in the DC board, and one in the Richmond board) have all been to ask about other members' experiences with Xkittenx. On the Richmond board, you even recommend that others avoid her.
Aside from this "broad" query, the fact that you've not shared any of your own experience with her is not something that will incline others to share theirs. Additionally, the fact that you have no other posting history, yet expect others to supply private details with someone who is basically a stranger, is another thing that will disincline others from sharing. Further, there is a possibility that you might be LEO posing as a legitimate monger. It's rumored that LEO does that on various sites, from time to time.
Please bear in mind: If you do not receive any responses, it's not because other members are stingy and unwilling to share. Instead, it's probably because you, being a new member, have not shared anything with the community first. Information is the "coin of the realm" here. Those who share information on these boards obtained that info via expenditure of (a) their hard-earned dollars and (b) their limited and generally valuable personal free time. Asking for that information, gratis, is thus bad form.
As ol' Desert Pete once said: "You've got to give before you get." Just an observation and a small bit of (hopefully) helpful advice.
- Roman.I was not looking for general information. I have been in the rodeo a while now. Just did not want my senior account tied to anything with her name.
Hello,
I have recently decided to try and see one of the girls at one of the local K-girl agencies. The problem is, all the girls I have seen are from BP and when I try to use them as references I never hear back from the K-girl screener. Does anybody know of any good "newb friendly" providers in the area that don't require references but can be used as a reference later? Oh I have seen Jin, so that can be 1 of 3 references I need. Thanks for any help guys, PM if you could.Neither are in town at the moment but both of these ladies visit frequently will do alternative screening and are also lots of fun. Mariana the Muse and Laura Croft aka nightpearl. Stay safe.
Hi all,
Does anyone have any info on Jennifers models? It's located in Tysons corner.
http://www.jennifersmodels.com/
Thanks.
Hi all,
Does anyone have any info on Jennifers models? It's located in Tysons corner.
http://www.jennifersmodels.com/
Thanks.Depends on the model. Their location is listed with each model. TC and Dupont Circle that I can recall.
Depends on the model. Their location is listed with each model. TC and Dupont Circle that I can recall.I called the number and I was told that the main location is at Tysons Corner. I was wondering if anyone has been with any of the girls from this agency.
Member #6235
03-03-15, 19:24
Okays folks so I've been eyeing this girl's ad for a long while and decided to hit up Jade Marie finally, 415-967-0197. I haven't seen anyone reviewed her on this forum, only on TER and all of them seemed like they enjoyed somewhat. I decided to call her and asked "how much is your half" and she said "$200" right off the bat, I was thinking WTF? I paused and stuttered, and she said "well how much do you have? I thought for a second and said something a little bit above reasonable or average cost "$160" and she agreed, she texted me the address and so I went within 30 min. I arrive at a pretty upscale place and called her, and she gave me the room number, went up there, she opened the door and she was already in panties and a bra and did a quick suprising LE check. Placed the donation on the table and started to undress, I analyzed her body and it was her on the ad but a few pounds heavier, like 5'5, 135 lbs, I noticed she have several cuts on arms and legs, and healing incisions from a titjob xD but her new melons were looking really good, she also had a large blister on her lip and a couple pimples on her face, I'm thinking man this girl better not be "sick", her body is a bit sloppy. She starts with a CBJ for 1 min just to get it up away we go with mish. After about 5 min she whispers cum baby. I'm like WTF. I keep going for another 5 min and she repeats it. I was in and out "The Door" in about 16 min. Her attitude is bland BTW.
This girl will try to get as much as she can get for a little time as possible!
Will definitely not repeat and recommend you folks not to as well, she is usually in the NOVA area but mostly in MD side. She might be pissed that I'll ruin her good reputation.
Member #6235
03-03-15, 19:47
I have been eyeing this one for a little bit and decided to hit her up, I texted her 571-623-1630 and she responded with a text in a reasonable amount of time. She had an expensive outcall service for $200 for the hour, I texted her and asked "Can you do $140 for the half" she agreed and we decided to set up a time in the evening. So I texted her the address and she came thru. I was a bit happy with what I saw, she was about 5'4 and 125 lbs. She came in seeming so insecure about who is home and kept asking were not going to be disturbed I assured her and we continued. She is a talker maybe because she was a bit nervous. After about 5 min of normal talking we went ahead and undressed, she started with a BBBJ, pulled out her natural big breasts it was AMAZING, the view and feeling! Also did a combo of BBBJ and titjob at the same time. After about 5 min she put the hat on and decided to go mish. It was amazing and tight. I couldn't even last for more than 15 min. She was in and out in about 25 min. She is definitely not a clock watcher, If I didn't release so soon I would have tried a couple more positions and took an hour!
I tried to set something up another time but she got irritated because I put her off 2 times due to my schedule was tight and she said don't text me again ever LOL, Ill hit her up in about a year or so.
I you folks try her out!
Andrewsted
03-04-15, 03:28
Ok, maybe a long explanation. A few years ago (2 1/2) I went to A Mid priced hotel in Sterling to see Preggo Ashleigh love. She was great! I love preggos. When I was going to her room, I passed Moaning Monika / Monika Swan in the hall. She is way, way cute and I just had to see her. Alas, it didn't happen then. Fast forward 2 years later (Nov. 2014) and I finally get a chance to see her at the same mid priced hotel. She had an ad on BP and was advertising 2 girls, the other was a cute, short, petite AA gal but forget her name. She was in the bathroom and came out after we were done. I called Monika to set up appt and she had me go to the gas station and buy a water before she gave me hotel info but I knew because I had been the 2 yrs prior to see her friend Ashleigh Love. So, I get the water, call her, she calls back and gives me hotel name. I'm now in the parking lot and this is where it gets frustrating / weird: she wants to see me and my car so she says park to right / end of hotel. I do so, to the right if I'm looking at the hotel. She is in her room and looking to the right as she is looking out of her hotel room window. She's yelling at me that she can't see me. I tell her that I'm at the end, to the right. She gets belligerent and rude. I finally assume that she's confused and looking toward her other right. So, I move, park, she sees me then gives me room number. I walk in but forget water. Greets me at the door, gives me a hug when I walk in and she looks great! Petite, spinner and an ass to die for and or kill fir. Fantastic frame! She had been advertising 1. 2 for qv then it went to 1. 0 then to. 8. I told her that she should not charge. 8 because she was way too hot for. 8 rate but she said business was way way too slow and she had to lower. Deed was good but her who haww smelled. I tell her that I have been watching her for awhile now and last saw her when she was with her preggo friend Ashleigh. She was like: "oh yea, I can't believe she worked while preggo".
Fast forward five months (November to March): Monika is back in town and coincidently so Is Ashleigh Love. They both have ads on BP. So, Monikas ad says text is ok if she has seen you before. So, I saw her in early November already. I texted and gave her a specific date we met. She calls me and freaks out and says that is way way too cop like to give her a specific date and she says she doesn't even recall being her in November! So, she freaks out and thinks I'm uncle LEO. I thought it best to give her a specific date vs telling her: "oh yea, we met, I saw you a few months ago". I thought that would ge too vague and thought she would think that to be cop like. I even told her that the last time she was here she was with a short AA gal. That seemed to ring a bell with her memory.
So, she says she'll call back in 20 minutes. Well, to her credit, she did call back but it was 6 hours later! I figured that her business was slow and at midnight, she needed the 1. 2 from me and decided to call me, finally. I let it go to voicemail and have not called her back. She is very nice in person. Very personable, down to earth, kind. But over the phone she is paranoid, way too much.
I see now, a day or 2 later, both her and Ashleigh are now advertising. 8 rate for qv. I'm guessing business is slow, again. I may or may not call Monika. Have not decided. But for the mothers out there, if you finally get to meet her, you will be very pleased with your visit!
Captain save a hoe Never tell them to increase prices. Just tell us how good of a value she is.
Nothing worse than a monger gassing these broads head. If anything tell her to lower her rates.
I bet you love paying full retail on used items.
Kenwood Jack
03-06-15, 18:41
I know you mongers don't know me ... but check me out. In Cincinnati, search Kenwood or Jack. Or just look at my posts. On a recent trip to Tampa, I saw 5 providers. All were legit, delivered as promised, yet I gave just a so-so review to 3 of them, and as of today, I have decided not to review the 4th. Angie is coming to visit you guys, so here is my review. It is honest and forthright.
Angie Summers.
(Just look her up on TER.)
She visited at my 4 star hotel in Tampa.
I don't know this at all, but I would bet that she has enjoyed an alternative lifestyle in her youth. She seems not to understand the word 'no'. She wants to please.
Did she look like her pictures? She looks much better. She has a bangin' body for her age.
Her boobs seem incredibly firm with no sag (and no enhancements). She is not a spinner at all but seems very fit with a few tattoos and a few piercings. She is defiantly (spelled correctly) wild at heart.
http://www.40somethingmag.com/xxx-mature-models/model/2699/?nats=MTIyNzMzNjo0OjI,0
http://mpp.tc/gkz
She is an amateur porn star.
http://www.slaveangie.com/
http://www.angie-summers.com/
Boobs: All hers, and they're marvelous.
General body type: Bangin' body for a lady of 50+ (probably lost 25 pounds since her pictures).
What was the ease / difficulty of scheduling? I scheduled long in advance by email.
Was she on time? She was ready and on time.
How did we set it up? Texting 40 times? Or what? Easy set up. I sent her a text of my hotel address.
REFERENCES NEEDED (or not). REFERENCES NEEDED.
Cleanliness of girl: She was very clean and freshly showered.
No smells (smoking or otherwise).
Attitude: She was very subservient (I loved this!).
Skill: professional level of a courtesan.
Performance: 10 out of 10.
Comfortability level: 10 out of 10.
Chemistry: 5 (This is a huge number for me).
Personality: 8 out of 10. She was very engaging.
Ambiance: What did she do to set the mood? She sat down to talk to me for a while. It felt like a first date with a very sexy lady.
Spidey sense-o-meter = 0
This means nothing registered to worry me. Nothing. No smells to take home. Nothing. No worry about the environs. Nothing. No red flags of any kind. Nothing. No boyfriends lurking. Nothing.
Intangibles. She not only exudes sex appeal, but also seems like a next-door-neighbor (that you just found out has a dungeon in her basement).
Angie is a special lady. She has a kind heart and only wants to please.
Would I see this person outside of the industry on a personal level? Only if she would let me!
Constructive criticism. What could I have done to make the experience better.
1. Not seen a different provider that same morning.
2. Not said, "No, you don't need to bring you bag of toys. ".
3. Booked more than just 1 hour.
What's on the menu for everyone? We know it's always YMMV, but menu includes at least BBBJ, CFS, CGREEK, GFE, DATY, MSOG, BDSM FETISHES, different positions, LFK, DFK, TUMA. She will cater your experience to fit your needs and fulfill your desires.
She is a natural sub.
Is she a kisser? She is a kisser.
Her finishing move today? Prostate massage with BBBJCIMNQNS
Did she provide clean up after the pop? No clean up needed.
What was her specialty? She is a natural sub..
Overall pros: She will do whatever you want. Beautiful mature lady, smart, willing to please, no upsell, safe, clean. I would be very comfortable being with her in any public environment, whether a nice candlelight dinner, spelunking, or a local sporting event.
Overall cons: (reasons a monger might not want to see her). She is mature. In Cincinnati, the providers I frequent are almost all 30 or younger.
Cost: $300 for 1 hour.
Overall value: Excellent.
I WOULD RECOMMEND HIGHLY. A truly exceptional experience.
Questions? - PM Kenwood Jack.
LaBoumWill
03-13-15, 13:29
The following is my review on.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/special-your-new-exotic-asian-playmate/16081724
Ok all jokes aside I really do want to warn you to not use her lube, even if she uses it for your pre message she will get mad. LUCKILY as a formality I ALWAYS bring a gift, some agencies actually require it, I just like that little formality and gave her a Stuffed animal, Sealed Baby Oil Bottle, and Kpop Music Album.
Arrangements.
Set Up / Appointment. Really easy and fast. Just don't talk too fast, her English is poor. Be NICE.
Incall. Hotel was really nice and clean.
Massage - 30 minutes full Body both sides 9/10 Felt great sense I was a little sore from working out.
Happy Ending - 30 minutes Nothing Kinky. No fingering. No Head (both ways) service delivery I'd rate 5/10 atmosphere was great though.
GIRL.
Ethnicity. Chinese.
Visuals - 4/10 Not the girl you see on the AD. I asked if it was her friend and tried to get set up with her BUUUUT she said she was by herself.
Age - 3/10 Totally fraudulent. Ad said 22 I would say she was in her 40's.
Body. Really Nice. Very soft and takes care of herself. About 5 ft3 in.
Attitude. OK I REALLY don't KNOW. She kept speaking in Mandarin and really did not want to be in any non traditional positions. Idk what she said but I was either hitting it too hard or she was getting upset. Really ambiguous.
Price.
1 hr Session = $160. I drove 30 miles and wasn't about to leave empty handed. Even if I was disappointed it appeared to me she wasn't busy. During the set up I asked if I could see her from 10:30-2 pm. She said no prob. I'll just pay her this time and take my business elsewhere next time.
Overall 5/10 I was disappointed but ill take the bullet here for the rest of the crew, especially sense there was no reviews on her. HOWEVER if your on the older side (35-40's) this is something worth your money sense you know its more in your age range and her body is still nice. No disrespect intended, just keeping it practical and hey some people like the older woman.
I guess at the end of the day its your prerogative, but if you have any specific questions just PM me.
Seen her ad on this forum, contact via pm, she responded with her email address. Sent her my number asked her to text me. Over a couple of day period of some back and forth sat up first appointment, I text that I was off work and had free time, she immediately responded great she was free also. We text back and forth about how to proceed and had a time to meet up, as I would drive to her location 1. 5 hours away. About 10 minutes later she responded if the next day wasn't better that a death in the family has occurred and today was the last day and she was needed there. So of course I agreed but wondered why if today was the last day, I was offered a date in the first place but no biggy.
Next day agreed that I would drive up after work, 1. 5 hours, shower there, change, meet and greet, go out for a nice dinner and see where it went from there.
Upon arrival her place was easy to find. A woman came out onto the porch dressed in baggy jeans and a sweatshirt hoodie. I asked if she was Jewel, as kittycatkteen is aka as jewel lovely or lovely jewel. She replied yes. I do not believe it is the women in the picture at all. I'm not saying this lady was ugly, just not the women in the picture. The bodies are certainly not the same. Being already 1. 5 hours invested, I proceeded into the apartment where I was immediate met by a man sitting in the living room, a woman sitting near him, and in the kitchen a elderly gentleman sitting at the table.
Without uttering a word, Jewel proceeded into the bathroom which opens into the kitchen and turns the water on saying I could shower here. I handed Jewel the flowers I had picked up, told her it was nice meeting her, but this certainly would not work, and proceeded out of the apartment. Jewel followed and from the porch asked if the date was over, in astonishment I turned and walked back and replied yes, you should of told me there was a house full of people. Her reply was no one ever had a problem with it before.
I left drove 1. 5 hours back in the great DC traffic. Damage - 60 in gas, 10 for flowers, 4 hours of my time wasted.
Two days later I get texts and email asking if we could have a date, of course the answer is no and to please never contact me again and that a review would be posted.
It takes a lot for me to give a all bad report. But being mislead and lies to will do it, Every bit of this encounter falls into those two catagories.
Attached is the photo she has posted here on the forum. I do not see how it can be her. Unless its an old picture 370498.
Seen her ad on this forum, contact via pm, she responded with her email address. Sent her my number asked her to text me. Over a couple of day period of some back and forth sat up first appointment, I text that I was off work and had free time, she immediately responded great she was free also. We text back and forth about how to proceed and had a time to meet up, as I would drive to her location 1. 5 hours away. About 10 minutes later she responded if the next day wasn't better that a death in the family has occurred and today was the last day and she was needed there. So of course I agreed but wondered why if today was the last day, I was offered a date in the first place but no biggy.
Next day agreed that I would drive up after work, 1. 5 hours, shower there, change, meet and greet, go out for a nice dinner and see where it went from there.
Upon arrival her place was easy to find. A woman came out onto the porch dressed in baggy jeans and a sweatshirt hoodie. I asked if she was Jewel, as kittycatkteen is aka as jewel lovely or lovely jewel. She replied yes. I do not believe it is the women in the picture at all. I'm not saying this lady was ugly, just not the women in the picture. The bodies are certainly not the same. Being already 1. 5 hours invested, I proceeded into the apartment where I was immediate met by a man sitting in the living room, a woman sitting near him, and in the kitchen a elderly gentleman sitting at the table.
Without uttering a word, Jewel proceeded into the bathroom which opens into the kitchen and turns the water on saying I could shower here. I handed Jewel the flowers I had picked up, told her it was nice meeting her, but this certainly would not work, and proceeded out of the apartment. Jewel followed and from the porch asked if the date was over, in astonishment I turned and walked back and replied yes, you should of told me there was a house full of people. Her reply was no one ever had a problem with it before.
I left drove 1. 5 hours back in the great DC traffic. Damage - 60 in gas, 10 for flowers, 4 hours of my time wasted.
Two days later I get texts and email asking if we could have a date, of course the answer is no and to please never contact me again and that a review would be posted.
It takes a lot for me to give a all bad report. But being mislead and lies to will do it, Every bit of this encounter falls into those two catagories.
Attached is the photo she has posted here on the forum. I do not see how it can be her. Unless its an old picture 370498.I'm glad you walked out and all, because that was weird. I don't even like to see other providers hiding in the bathroom when I go mongering. No idea why all those people were there, other than to party with your funds once you were gone.
And she gave you a ton of red flags - no way it would have turned out well for you. We men have to listen to our intuitions.
But I gotta know, what was it about that picture that possessed you to drive an hour and a half, with flowers to boot, to see her? You should NEVER have to drive that far to get some decent rented poontang in this area.
And WTF kind of car do you have that guzzles $60 worth of gas in an 1. 5 hour trip?
I'm glad you walked out and all, because that was weird. I don't even like to see other providers hiding in the bathroom when I go mongering. No idea why all those people were there, other than to party with your funds once you were gone.
And she gave you a ton of red flags - no way it would have turned out well for you. We men have to listen to our intuitions.
But I gotta know, what was it about that picture that possessed you to drive an hour and a half, with flowers to boot, to see her? You should NEVER have to drive that far to get some decent rented poontang in this area.
And WTF kind of car do you have that guzzles $60 worth of gas in an 1. 5 hour trip?First its a full size ford, driving in and out of DC traffic for 3 hours. WTF kind of car do you have that would not guzzle $60 worth of gas? Second, the conversations we had over a three day period leading up to our meeting had me believing her to be a very nice, considerate young lady trying to make ends meet. If you look at my profile and past posts you'll see that I'm not from this God forsaken area. I've been here a few months off and on. My profile posts will show you that I play a hell of a lot, and my time here has been nothing short of a disaster relative to the hobby.
Their was nothing about the picture that made me wish to purchase flowers for her. I had stopped to fill up with fuel and as I was pulling out a man was standing near the road offering these small bunches of flowers for sale, so to help him out, and as an offering to break the ice, I purchased them. I've found over my time of being in the hobby that just small things such as that can and will turn an average encounter into a great one, if it dosent, I"m out a small price overall.
As soon as I saw the other people in the small apartment, I was done, especially the young guy. I could tell just by the look he was going to be trouble.
Now if you have good infor on UTR's in this area that provide quaility GFE at a working mans price, that would be great, shoot me a pm.
Guitarman1
03-23-15, 09:10
Seen her ad on this forum, contact via pm, she responded with her email address. Sent her my number asked her to text me. Over a couple of day period of some back and forth sat up first appointment, I text that I was off work and had free time, she immediately responded great she was free also. We text back and forth about how to proceed and had a time to meet up, as I would drive to her location 1. 5 hours away. About 10 minutes later she responded if the next day wasn't better that a death in the family has occurred and today was the last day and she was needed there. So of course I agreed but wondered why if today was the last day, I was offered a date in the first place but no biggy.
Next day agreed that I would drive up after work, 1. 5 hours, shower there, change, meet and greet, go out for a nice dinner and see where it went from there.
Upon arrival her place was easy to find. A woman came out onto the porch dressed in baggy jeans and a sweatshirt hoodie. I asked if she was Jewel, as kittycatkteen is aka as jewel lovely or lovely jewel. She replied yes. I do not believe it is the women in the picture at all. I'm not saying this lady was ugly, just not the women in the picture. The bodies are certainly not the same. Being already 1. 5 hours invested, I proceeded into the apartment where I was immediate met by a man sitting in the living room, a woman sitting near him, and in the kitchen a elderly gentleman sitting at the table.
Without uttering a word, Jewel proceeded into the bathroom which opens into the kitchen and turns the water on saying I could shower here. I handed Jewel the flowers I had picked up, told her it was nice meeting her, but this certainly would not work, and proceeded out of the apartment. Jewel followed and from the porch asked if the date was over, in astonishment I turned and walked back and replied yes, you should of told me there was a house full of people. Her reply was no one ever had a problem with it before.
I left drove 1. 5 hours back in the great DC traffic. Damage - 60 in gas, 10 for flowers, 4 hours of my time wasted.
Two days later I get texts and email asking if we could have a date, of course the answer is no and to please never contact me again and that a review would be posted.
It takes a lot for me to give a all bad report. But being mislead and lies to will do it, Every bit of this encounter falls into those two catagories.
Attached is the photo she has posted here on the forum. I do not see how it can be her. Unless its an old picture 370498.I would have also left. That is just weird that all those people were around. She could have at least warned you. This is a hobby that most of us prefer to keep discreet, not just from people that know us but also from strangers.
Ambidextrous
03-29-15, 13:47
Recently opened K-agency, my third visit and I haven't been disappointed yet. Discreet side entry in newly built luxury apartment building, elevator lets you out right next to the apartment door.
When I first laid eyes on Izumi I didn't think she was Korean, because her facial features do not look it. In fact she was not really pretty to my eyes but I soon forgot about that because of the excellent experience I had. After chatting a bit I realized she is 100% K-girl. She has a flawless compact, curvaceous body (admitted to implants but who cares) and an affectionate bubbly personality. This is the rare occasion when the ad pics are completely accurate, except for blurring the face photoshop wasn't needed at all. Said she was 26 but could be a bit older.
Izumi responded well to DATY and even gamely allowed a little FITO although it was clear it was not her cup of tea. Missionary, then her on top, our bodies seemed to fit together well. BBBJ technique wasn't great so used hands to finish. She declined CIF for makeup reasons so I finished on her excellent chest.
Damage 3 x $; F5 B9 A9 S8.
nite_runner
03-29-15, 14:27
Recently opened K-agency, my third visit and I haven't been disappointed yet. Discreet side entry in newly built luxury apartment building, elevator lets you out right next to the apartment door.
When I first laid eyes on Izumi I didn't think she was Korean, because her facial features do not look it. In fact she was not really pretty to my eyes but I soon forgot about that because of the excellent experience I had. After chatting a bit I realized she is 100% K-girl. She has a flawless compact, curvaceous body (admitted to implants but who cares) and an affectionate bubbly personality. This is the rare occasion when the ad pics are completely accurate, except for blurring the face photoshop wasn't needed at all. Said she was 26 but could be a bit older.
Izumi responded well to DATY and even gamely allowed a little FITO although it was clear it was not her cup of tea. Missionary, then her on top, our bodies seemed to fit together well. BBBJ technique wasn't great so used hands to finish. She declined CIF for makeup reasons so I finished on her excellent chest.
Damage 3 x $; F5 B9 A9 S8.I can't speak for many of you; however, that price is a bit out of my league for an hour or so fuck session. Am I missing something?
N_R.
WhiteLake830
03-29-15, 19:39
Recently opened K-agency, my third visit and I haven't been disappointed yet. Discreet side entry in newly built luxury apartment building, elevator lets you out right next to the apartment door.
When I first laid eyes on Izumi I didn't think she was Korean, because her facial features do not look it. In fact she was not really pretty to my eyes but I soon forgot about that because of the excellent experience I had. After chatting a bit I realized she is 100% K-girl. She has a flawless compact, curvaceous body (admitted to implants but who cares) and an affectionate bubbly personality. This is the rare occasion when the ad pics are completely accurate, except for blurring the face photoshop wasn't needed at all. Said she was 26 but could be a bit older.
Izumi responded well to DATY and even gamely allowed a little FITO although it was clear it was not her cup of tea. Missionary, then her on top, our bodies seemed to fit together well. BBBJ technique wasn't great so used hands to finish. She declined CIF for makeup reasons so I finished on her excellent chest.
Damage 3 x $; F5 B9 A9 S8.I agree night. I can't imagine how a $$$ or more girl can be worth it. Just my experience. Unless I've missed something too.
Ambidextrous
03-30-15, 08:28
I agree night. I can't imagine how a $$$ or more girl can be worth it. Just my experience. Unless I've missed something too.Different levels of service are available at different prices. I started the hobby with AMPs, then went to lower end BP-type providers, then moved up to K-agencies. Most mongers are looking for the elusive GFE and I am no different. My experience has been that most of the time you get what you pay for. If you can find a provider who is attractive, affectionate, skilled, and gives BBBJCIM for less than $$$ an hour, more power to you. My experience with lower level agencies (I have many times patronized Chinese condos at $. 6/ h) has been hit or miss, and some of the misses really leave a bad taste in your mouth. The last time I tried one the provider seemed so uncomfortable that I wondered if she was there against her will.
Of course your financial situation plays a big part in this decision process too.
Different levels of service are available at different prices. I started the hobby with AMPs, then went to lower end BP-type providers, then moved up to K-agencies. Most mongers are looking for the elusive GFE and I am no different. My experience has been that most of the time you get what you pay for. If you can find a provider who is attractive, affectionate, skilled, and gives BBBJCIM for less than $$$ an hour, more power to you. My experience with lower level agencies (I have many times patronized Chinese condos at $. 6/ h) has been hit or miss, and some of the misses really leave a bad taste in your mouth. The last time I tried one the provider seemed so uncomfortable that I wondered if she was there against her will.
Of course your financial situation plays a big part in this decision process too.Agreed. I will add that almost all of my agency experiences have been above average to excellent, and the providers are almost always solid 7's /8's in the looks department (or better) - which isn't the case for my experiences with AMP's, CC's, or BP girls. Not to mention in general the providing locations are less seedy in my opinion.
Conclusion, worth it.
-Z.
Driller523
04-10-15, 18:46
Agreed. I will add that almost all of my agency experiences have been above average to excellent, and the providers are almost always solid 7's /8's in the looks department (or better) - which isn't the case for my experiences with AMP's, CC's, or BP girls. Not to mention in general the providing locations are less seedy in my opinion.
Conclusion, worth it.
-Z.Personally have mixed feelings about agencies the biggest advantage is they are less likely to gone tomorrow so they may be more concerned with customer service.Compared to a one and done independent.
I have had occasion where agency service was sub par and agency made it right down side of agency good ones screen hard and girls more often expect a tip.
RedSkins1975
04-14-15, 16:19
Hey what's up guys, first time poster but long time hobbyist, mostly post on TheOther site. Does anyone know what happened to the steady influx of thai girls we used to have around the falls church area back from like 2006-2012? I know some Chinese places operating in TC, but I like the thai girls better. In any case if anyone can PM me, I will certainly trade info about any asian provider in the k-agencies or some independents like asian mya and some of the friends she has brought around recently.
If they are the ones I used to meet up with, long gone. Pinky and her friend? I heard they got out of town after a bust. I kept up with one but she ended up back in Thailand.
Hey what's up guys, first time poster but long time hobbyist, mostly post on TheOther site. Does anyone know what happened to the steady influx of thai girls we used to have around the falls church area back from like 2006-2012? I know some Chinese places operating in TC, but I like the thai girls better. In any case if anyone can PM me, I will certainly trade info about any asian provider in the k-agencies or some independents like asian mya and some of the friends she has brought around recently.
Guys, a friend of mine just moved from Daytona to F'burg. She's working on getting a site up, and an ad posted here but is UTR for the time being trying to get on her feet. She's absolutely not doing BP. About a dozen members helped her in Daytona a few weeks ago and you can read her rave reviews there, she goes by Morgan. Look for a post by DinerJim for some sweet pics. Until she gathers some funds, she will probably do outcall local to F'burg, hopes to see only caucasion guys and wants to stay low-volume. I can tell you, and so can they. Absolutely a cut-above. Body to kill and absolute GFE. PM me for details and treat her right. She's ready to roll.
Ntcuonghm1
04-20-15, 08:09
Based on the recommendation, I decided to set up an appt with Morgan. Called her and she picked up the phone. She was cautious, but also very friendly. She does not have her own place yet as she just moved up north, so she will do outcalls only. We agreed to meet 2 hrs later. She showed up to my room in a pullover and shorts that showed her well-toned long legs. She is a young MILF you would from time to time run into in shopping malls and you would wish you could take her home to have fun. Her body type: athletic, long well-toned legs, nice man-made boobs. She has a few tatoos, too. We got in the room and started to chat. She was very friendly and carried on the conversation well. Then she asked me to lay down so that she could start the massage, and then she moved on to give me a BBBJ. It was one of the best ones I had ever had. Very sensual and enthusiastic. She could go on and on forever if you did not stop her. I had to try to hold it back as I was about to explode in her mouth a few times. I asked her to please stop the BBBJ so that we could have a bang. LOL. I put on a condom and started pounding her. Again, I had to think of something else so that I could not cum too quickly. It seemed to me she did enjoy it, too. Her pussy is tight, and a good thing is that she can squeeze it to make you feel even better. LOL. After a while, I could not hold it back anymore and had to release the load. LOL. Then we kept talking about several issues that we were interested in. Totally she stayed with me more than the time I had booked her for. I had not had such a fantastic time for a long time. I give her my highest recommendation. You guys book her with confidence. Her email: rmorganelise@gmail.com.
Guys, a friend of mine just moved from Daytona to F'burg. She's working on getting a site up, and an ad posted here but is UTR for the time being trying to get on her feet. She's absolutely not doing BP. About a dozen members helped her in Daytona a few weeks ago and you can read her rave reviews there, she goes by Morgan. Look for a post by DinerJim for some sweet pics. Until she gathers some funds, she will probably do outcall local to F'burg, hopes to see only caucasion guys and wants to stay low-volume. I can tell you, and so can they. Absolutely a cut-above. Body to kill and absolute GFE. PM me for details and treat her right. She's ready to roll.
Member #4911
04-20-15, 14:27
Based on the recommendation, I decided to set up an appt with Morgan. Called her and she picked up the phone. She was cautious, but also very friendly. She does not have her own place yet as she just moved up north, so she will do outcalls only. We agreed to meet 2 hrs later. She showed up to my room in a pullover and shorts that showed her well-toned long legs. She is a young MILF you would from time to time run into in shopping malls and you would wish you could take her home to have fun. Her body type: athletic, long well-toned legs, nice man-made boobs. She has a few tatoos, too. We got in the room and started to chat. She was very friendly and carried on the conversation well. Then she asked me to lay down so that she could start the massage, and then she moved on to give me a BBBJ. It was one of the best ones I had ever had. Very sensual and enthusiastic. She could go on and on forever if you did not stop her. I had to try to hold it back as I was about to explode in her mouth a few times. I asked her to please stop the BBBJ so that we could have a bang. LOL. I put on a condom and started pounding her. Again, I had to think of something else so that I could not cum too quickly. It seemed to me she did enjoy it, too. Her pussy is tight, and a good thing is that she can squeeze it to make you feel even better. LOL. After a while, I could not hold it back anymore and had to release the load. LOL. Then we kept talking about several issues that we were interested in. Totally she stayed with me more than the time I had booked her for. I had not had such a fantastic time for a long time. I give her my highest recommendation. You guys book her with confidence. Her email: rmorganelise@gmail.com.Nice post on F'burg's new MILF, looks and sounds appealing, I don't care to exchange emails, is her digits available.
Ntcuonghm1
04-20-15, 18:33
She prefers not to have her number posted publicly. So feel free to email her first.
Nice post on F'burg's new MILF, looks and sounds appealing, I don't care to exchange emails, is her digits available.
Bunker Buster
04-20-15, 18:35
Guys, a friend of mine just moved from Daytona to F'burg. She's working on getting a site up, and an ad posted here but is UTR for the time being trying to get on her feet. She's absolutely not doing BP. About a dozen members helped her in Daytona a few weeks ago and you can read her rave reviews there, she goes by Morgan. Look for a post by DinerJim for some sweet pics. Until she gathers some funds, she will probably do outcall local to F'burg, hopes to see only caucasion guys and wants to stay low-volume. I can tell you, and so can they. Absolutely a cut-above. Body to kill and absolute GFE. PM me for details and treat her right. She's ready to roll.She's new and UTR here, but used to be an agency girl (Private Viewings).
http://www.escorthistory.com/202-748-1834/
You can look her up on USASG as LPG99, or Google reviews for Rachel Dawson on several oThER sites.
Her reviews look good across the board.
Pilot Aviator
04-20-15, 22:06
In the past two days, Morgan has received significant by name, detailed postings here.
By definition -- that is NOT being UTR.
She may not have (yet) posted a local CL or BP advert (or local URL), but I am certain those that pay attention have made note of the arrival.
FWIW.
Always be nice to the ladies (especially very nice ladies like Morgan).
PA.
Greetings. First off a sincere thanks to those members who have contacted Morgan. She is settling into the area and wanted you to know she now has an in call thanks to the generosity / biz savvy of one of our own. Apparently the interest is high to see her but was an issue for most without a decent incall. I for one can relate to that.
So, not sure how long she will have it but she is there now. Thanks again to the member who made it happen. You know who you are.
Grafenberg
04-25-15, 16:03
She's new and UTR here, but used to be an agency girl (Private Viewings).
http://www.escorthistory.com/202-748-1834/
You can look her up on USASG as LPG99, or Google reviews for Rachel Dawson on several oThER sites.
Her reviews look good across the board.Looks kinda like it's Elina Morgan on Ave-X who was formerly HotAngelina http://hotangelina.escortfiles.com/about.
Looks kinda like it's Elina Morgan on Ave-X who was formerly HotAngelina http://hotangelina.escortfiles.com/about.Wow thanks for the link. Hot Angelina is hot. But Morgan is not her. I'd say the body is similar, both have a great rack. Hot Angelina seems a bit thicker as well in the hips and legs. Morgan is truly on the slim side. Face is totally different, both are very appealing though Morgan hasnt had any work there. Importantly, Morgan's rates are 30% off HA's (only for now I will predict) and she can do Dom as well. FWIW.
Has anyone ever visited or tried to visit this little blonde minx? I google searched all of her images and didn't find anything then I searched her phone and email and still didn't find any reviews. Closest I found was the website below which says she has a 3. 5 of 5 stars by 33 users.
https://www.gfemonkey.com/profiles/kendra-love-512-230-1312-young-hot-sexy-blonde-thats-ready-to-please/556abb62221e5305008b459a
She is very pricey so I don't think I can pull the trigger unless I can find some reviews of her out there first or if someone here has ever seen her.
Has anyone ever visited or tried to visit this little blonde minx? I google searched all of her images and didn't find anything then I searched her phone and email and still didn't find any reviews. Closest I found was the website below which says she has a 3. 5 of 5 stars by 33 users.
https://www.gfemonkey.com/profiles/kendra-love-512-230-1312-young-hot-sexy-blonde-thats-ready-to-please/556abb62221e5305008b459a
She is very pricey so I don't think I can pull the trigger unless I can find some reviews of her out there first or if someone here has ever seen her.First, a search of her number turns up nothing other than the single hit on the gfemonkey site. Since it's not associated with any other ad that means it's either brand new or she's changed her number. IME, good providers rarely need to change their numbers and if she's new then of course she has no track record.
Second, and more troubling, are the fake pics. See this link http://bit.ly/1IlH7ix for the search results from one of her pics.
Third, combining #1 and #2: no intel + no reviews + fake pics + high price = too many red flags.
Three strikes on this one, IMHO.
First, a search of her number turns up nothing other than the single hit on the gfemonkey site. Since it's not associated with any other ad that means it's either brand new or she's changed her number. IME, good providers rarely need to change their numbers and if she's new then of course she has no track record.
Second, and more troubling, are the fake pics. See this link http://bit.ly/1IlH7ix for the search results from one of her pics.
Third, combining #1 and #2: no intel + no reviews + fake pics + high price = too many red flags.
Three strikes on this one, IMHO.Ahhhh thanks I searched most of the pictures and nothing came up so I either missed that one or did something wrong but usually I'm able to find out whose pictures they really are. The other things were definitely strikes but not finding stolen pictures (when I searched) gave me a little hope. But without some kind of review I couldn't justify risking that much coin. It's a damn shame because the real girl is gorgeous and I'd probably spend that for an hour with that beauty.
Thanks for your help bud.
GORGEO║ US ║9553; ASIAN ║ STUNNER ║9553;9553;.
The pictures are not accurate although the physical description at 5'4", 106,36 D is approximate and her face is cute. Meena speaks little or no English, so your wishes have to be demonstrated instead of spoken. The menu is $. 2 hh or $. 6 fh. At this point there is no specific reason to run, she is cute and the description is approximately correct. The LE check and undress is normal, but that's where normal ends. The back massage was two elbows applied so forcefully that they could have left bruises. The immediate flip was defensive to end the pain. She assumed the cg position and things were looking up with a nice pair of the headlights. However, it was hands only. No nursing. Then, on goes the cover and a good CBJ follows but then she tries to finish by hand. Pulling away, the positions change to cg, reverse cg, mish and back to finish in cg. Multiple attempts to finger home base were pushed away. The session was energetic and satisfying, but disappointing with the limits she set. Better service elsewhere. XXX-495-2632.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeo-us-asian-stunner/17039910
Pilot Aviator
06-29-15, 23:22
(long prelude) / Behavior between consenting adults that harms no one is the premise of those localities that legalized professional sex workers (or at least leave them and their clients alone).
I came to that conclusion early (I was only a sophomore in college when I made my first visit to Copenhagen and the Red Canal. And our tour guide for the trip was a tiny British lady (very nice tour guide, 40-ish), who wanted to be sure our (all-college men) group stayed out of trouble by showing us where the authorized "safe locations" were, and what the rules were (how to negotiate price and services) and where to avoid. Her stated attitude was "you go to a restaurant for food, sex is simply another appetite. ".
As my travels continued over the subsequent 30+ years, I met some very nice women -- some of whom were professional sex workers (their profession did not change my opinion that they were nice ladies / women (and FWIW, the friendliest professionals I found were in Brazil and Australia). / prelude ends.
I've been actively engaged in the hobby for some time. I've met some very nice ladies in the DMV-area -- I like my appointments with them.
The only truly objectionable experience I've had in this region was with a younger than expected (mid-20's+) provider who spoke little English. Her lack of experience was obvious to me, and her demeanor was such that I became uncomfortable. Because she spoke little English, there was no way I could be sure she actually consented to the line of work at which she was employed. Because of her age, I was not sure she actually chose this line of work for herself. I did not know her circumstances, so I terminated the session early and departed. That location closed a few years ago (a victim of area redevelopment).
Just a thought: I am not trying to stir the pot. I truly believe consenting adults should be left alone (and they should not be stigmatized). Perhaps many of you speak the languages of people who speak little English (good for you --regrettably I do not). To ensure consent, I prefer the experience, demenor, looks and language skills of the the over-30's to over 50's -- these are independent business women who made adult decisions related to their choice of work (and yes I recognize not all choices are good choices).
Enjoy the hobby (If you do not know me, read my reviews / other posts, you'll see I enjoy the hobby). Be careful, be generous, and always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
Is there any protocol regarding leaving reviews for girls at the K Agencies? I rarely ever see reviews for girls at these Agencies so I'm not sure if people just don't because they aren't around very long or there is some unwritten rule I'm unaware of? I'd be happy to leave a review if one of the well established Sr's want to give me a little background so I don't cause any issues for the Agencies or break some rules here.
Until then. Julia is incredible. Incredible. My experience with them is limited but amazing. I'm sure if read soon anyone familiar with the Agencies can find her based on name alone and pictures are accurate. Maybe even better in person. Until I get a response and get to leave a review I will give details to friends and well established / trusted seniors.
Is there any protocol regarding leaving reviews for girls at the K Agencies? I rarely ever see reviews for girls at these Agencies so I'm not sure if people just don't because they aren't around very long or there is some unwritten rule I'm unaware of? I'd be happy to leave a review if one of the well established Sr's want to give me a little background so I don't cause any issues for the Agencies or break some rules here.
Until then. Julia is incredible. Incredible. My experience with them is limited but amazing. I'm sure if read soon anyone familiar with the Agencies can find her based on name alone and pictures are accurate. Maybe even better in person. Until I get a response and get to leave a review I will give details to friends and well established / trusted seniors.I recognize no ban on posting about these girls. (Ambidextrous used to review them periodically.) But I guess I'm as guilty of others in that I haven't really done it much (at all)? There are oThER forums where these girls are very systematically reviewed so there doesn't seem much upside to repeating things here. Julia's on my radar too. If I pass the screening. I'd be interesting in hearing your take on her.
I recognize no ban on posting about these girls. (Ambidextrous used to review them periodically.) But I guess I'm as guilty of others in that I haven't really done it much (at all)? There are oThER forums where these girls are very systematically reviewed so there doesn't seem much upside to repeating things here. Julia's on my radar too. If I pass the screening. I'd be interesting in hearing your take on her.Just PM me with an questions if ya need. Movie follows a typical K Agency script but I can fill in any questions about looks (although pictures are accurate) or skills (maybe the oThER site takes care of that one). I'd go see her again in a heart beat. I wish I wasn't so busy at work now. I'll try to see her again this weekend. I doubt she's around much longer than that.
LoveDemAzn
07-14-15, 14:34
Just PM me with an questions if ya need. Movie follows a typical K Agency script but I can fill in any questions about looks (although pictures are accurate) or skills (maybe the oThER site takes care of that one). I'd go see her again in a heart beat. I wish I wasn't so busy at work now. I'll try to see her again this weekend. I doubt she's around much longer than that.They usually stay for 2-3 weeks. They don't like being review on site that free. It's going to be hard for some to even get into the action cause K agencies are careful of who they accept in. Most of these these girl choose what state they want to go to so if you treat them right, they will return.
Ambidextrous
07-27-15, 18:35
Browsing through reviews on anoThER site, I came across favorable ones for this provider. Caucasian, 22, looked super sexy in agency website pics. (Incidentally this agency's providers all seem to be Caucasian.) Passed screening (thanks to my regular K-agencies) and set it up. Toll was steep -- $3. 2/ h but WTF, at that price point the service should be good. Also this agency website seemed to project a high-end image.
Arrived early at Tysons Corner hotel location but she wasn't ready. By the time I got to the room it was 10 minutes past the hour, but she said she had a full hour and thankfully as things progressed she did not seem to watch the clock at all. She was attractive and looked 22 but somehow not as hot as on the website.
After some initial chatting and kissing, I gave her a massage which led to DATO and extended DATY during which she allowed a little FITO. She moaned but I could not get her to climax so after about 15 minutes I gave up. Some women take a long time, others seem to need more stimulation than I can do with just tongue and fingers.
Rachel informed me that she does not do CIM or on body. Disappointing considering the steep toll but I made the best of it. She gave BBBJ, then put on the cover and we did several positions. Finished with more BBBJ, her technique was pretty good but she needed to use her hand to complete, avoiding getting splashed on at the critical moment.
Rachel was good natured, open and communicative which made for a pleasant experience if lacking romance. In fact there was a sizable age gap between us and her youthful "upspeak" gave me the disconcerting feeling I was chatting with a friend's adolescent daughter who just happened to be naked.
Maybe I watch too much porn where enthusiastic females seem only too happy to get a mouthful (or a faceful), but that is what I always hope to find. At $2/ h I would have been satisfied with this level of service. At $3. 2/ h it was overpriced.
F7 B7 A8 S6.
Anyone familiar with the Thai outfit in Springfield (Asian Mya) her friend Macie is in town and was possibly one of the best experiences I've ever had. 2. 6 for the H but definitely the closest to GFE I've ever experienced. She either absolutely loves this line of work or she is one hell of an actress because I left there thinking this girl was in love with me. Not once did she ever say no or shy away from anything I wanted and never rushed me for a second. This isn't necessarily why I left feeling that way, but it was just one of the most intense/passionate sessions I've ever had. Even went a little over on time and still offered a shower but I told her my time was up and I didn't want to take time away from her busy day.
Her info is easy to find on the oThER site, but I can answer some questions to some friends (you know who you are) and some trusted seniors.
She is one of the sweetest girls I've met in this hobby so treat her well. I think she's only around for another week or two. But if she is treated well enough she might be back in a few months.
On a side note, while booking with her I was talking with another girl I've visited before toying with seeing her instead but she got busy and sent me a website for a friend of hers which she claimed was new from Argentina, 24 yrs old, said she was gorgeous and sent me her website. I found an ad on backpage which had the same pictures from the website my usual had provided me so I will link it below. I have not visited her yet so I cannot vouch but I have visited two other girls (Pamela and Young Lee) which share the same number and recommended her. They used their real pictures so I have no real reason to doubt this one does not although seeing this ad without knowing anything I'd assume it was TGTBT. I did not find any reviews, they said she just got into town today but understood my hesitation without reviews. If I see her in the next week or two I will follow up. If someone else does, please follow suit.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-in-townalessandra-from-argentinaextremely-hot-model-ill-be-unforgettable-for-you/18835199
Name is Alessandra in case the ad goes down.
Be Safe.
Ambidextrous
08-15-15, 07:09
When a provider is disappointing it seems particularly important to post a review. If other mongers are content with what that provider offers they might well still choose to patronize that provider.
Recently I posted a review that was positive overall but concluded that the services expected in this area for the premium toll that was charged were not provided. The booker sent me an angry email telling me I was no longer welcome at that agency. Another time the booker of a K-agency asked me not to publish negative reviews because they hurt her business. She seemed not to care at all that I had wasted 3 $.
I would think that an agency would want to winnow out providers who are not up to the usual standards. But it seems they are more concerned with raking in the $ than maintaining a high level of services provided. Seems a bit short-sighted to me.
Admittedly agency managers are between a rock and a hard place in navigating the differing expectations of mongers and providers, and bless them for undertaking the job at no small risk to themselves. But they can and should talk frankly to providers about what specific services will be offered.
Have you encountered this problem? Any bookers want to weigh in?
When a provider is disappointing it seems particularly important to post a review. If other mongers are content with what that provider offers they might well still choose to patronize that provider.
Recently I posted a review that was positive overall but concluded that the services expected in this area for the premium toll that was charged were not provided. The booker sent me an angry email telling me I was no longer welcome at that agency. Another time the booker of a K-agency asked me not to publish negative reviews because they hurt her business. She seemed not to care at all that I had wasted 3 $.
I would think that an agency would want to winnow out providers who are not up to the usual standards. But it seems they are more concerned with raking in the $ than maintaining a high level of services provided. Seems a bit short-sighted to me.
Admittedly agency managers are between a rock and a hard place in navigating the differing expectations of mongers and providers, and bless them for undertaking the job at no small risk to themselves. But they can and should talk frankly to providers about what specific services will be offered.
Have you encountered this problem? Any bookers want to weigh in?I've had limited experience with the agencies so have not had that happen yet. I remember your post (I'm guessing about Rachel) and it really wasn't that bad. If I recall the only negative was just expecting her to do CIM for that price point which isn't expecting a lot considering most do that at a much cheaper price point. Either way I don't think that would deter many people. I think you acknowledged she was young and attractive, maybe not as much as the pictures but pictures should be an honest reflection or they should expect that.
I have not used that service before although it was on my radar thanks to you. I'll be less likely to use them now if that is how they operate although I'm sure many operate the same way. I agree with you, they SHOULD use it as an opportunity to talk to their girls and ensure service is up to the standards they wish to provide. If they are fine with providing lower quality then they should expect to lose business until the price point drops. Usually those places prefer to get a set clientelle and run with them as it's risky to accept new customers so I find it silly to toss a proven customer to the side and risk alienating others because one of their own girls did not live up to expectations.
Sorry to hear of your experience. I think we PM'd a while back and I may have mentioned an agency or two I use but I'd be happy to discuss again if you are now looking for a new one. Most are at a much better price point also, of course most of mine are Asian and the one you visited was primarily Caucasian so it depends on your preference.
Big Jizzle
08-16-15, 20:07
Checking out eros today and saw there are at least two well know adult star in the DMV area. Reading other forums on this site confirms that they might be legit too. Really considering calling them up too, I got a thing for white girls with big booties, and she has one of the best asses in the biz. If her damage is too rich for my blood, of course it won't happen, I'm not Bill Gates after all.
http://www.butterflylegend.com/#!jane / ch7.
This K-girl agency is reliable and always has attractive k-girls in their 20's. Incall in Faiirfax. Website shows who is available and the pricing. 220 for 45 and 260 for the hour. Not clear what GFE Plus entails but it is an extra 40.
Jane is the typical attractive young slim K-Girl. Standard K-girl routine. I have been using K-girl agencies for a while and never disappointed. Some girls great, some girls good. Some teasing and touching in the shower. Great BBBJ. Goes deep and licks around shaft and head. Did missionary and doggy before I blew.
Enjoyable experience. Always new girls arriving and often 2-3 girls available. There is screening required before you can make an appointment. All the K-girl agencies located in NoVa, some in Fairfax, some in Annandale, some in Tysons. All require screening. Over time, they tend to come and go. Yes, screening is annoying but do it once and the next time it is very easy to make an appointment.
Great Expecta
09-03-15, 21:08
http://www.butterflylegend.com/#!jane / ch7.
This K-girl agency is reliable and always has attractive k-girls in their 20's. Incall in Faiirfax. Website shows who is available and the pricing. 220 for 45 and 260 for the hour. Not clear what GFE Plus entails but it is an extra 40.
Jane is the typical attractive young slim K-Girl. Standard K-girl routine. I have been using K-girl agencies for a while and never disappointed. Some girls great, some girls good. Some teasing and touching in the shower. Great BBBJ. Goes deep and licks around shaft and head. Did missionary and doggy before I blew.
Enjoyable experience. Always new girls arriving and often 2-3 girls available. There is screening required before you can make an appointment. All the K-girl agencies located in NoVa, some in Fairfax, some in Annandale, some in Tysons. All require screening. Over time, they tend to come and go. Yes, screening is annoying but do it once and the next time it is very easy to make an appointment.Isn't that a little steep for a K-girl? I pay 1. 6 for a C-girl operation that swaps the girl our every week to ten days. The catch here is the ages and looks vary and one week you may get an absolute stunner, then the next week get a 30 yr old with average looks. Can you PM me digits? I may give it a try. Be safe out there.
Ambidextrous
09-04-15, 16:20
The term "GFE" is used in almost every ad, but rarely have I been able to say that a provider exemplifies the qualities I would want in a GF. Although "Lee" is not a robo-babe (but see the details below), she is the exception to that rule. She is affectionate, kind, flexible, accommodating and skilled. She not only did everything I suggested, but seemed to take genuine pleasure in doing so.
Having seen Lee's very positive reviews, 3 weeks ago I decided to see her. I set the appointment up by email and confirmed the night before; she emailed "I'll be waiting for you sweetie. " Then when I was on the way to the appointment, I texted her for the first time. She responded saying that she couldn't do it because she had another appointment, and apologized profusely; "I want to make it up to you. " I was quite miffed at the screwup, especially because the person who emailed had indicated that she was the provider, but I resisted the urge to express anger. We all know how the best laid plans can go awry in this hobby. I just said I would try again another time.
A couple of weeks later, swayed by a steady flow of good reviews, I gave it another try. I set up another appointment, this time by text, and emailed to confirm. It turns out the emails are handled by a booker, "Amy," who revealed herself this time. Why she had impersonated the provider the first time I don't know, but it was mistake in judgment that almost cost them a client. (A good one IMHO haha.).
When I texted for the appointment, Lee said she was leaving the next day for a couple of weeks, but could see me in the morning. I arrived at the appointed time and texted her. She unexpectedly replied, "I'm coming out now. " I could only speculate that she wanted to check me out first. She got into my car, we introduced ourselves, and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.
We arrived at my place, I showed her around and we went into the bedroom, effortlessly transitioning to kissing and disrobing. Lee is a K-girl, said she is 26, has nice perky A-be cups, a little extra fat around the waist and a nice butt. In short a completely acceptable GND type. The only flaw in her appearance is that her teeth are not so great. But she told me that the reason she was going away was to have plastic surgery in South America on her breasts, waist and butt! I told her honestly that I thought she didn't need any such enhancement.
Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.
I proceeded to give her more massage and DATY. Since we were at my place I suggested using a toy. She readily agreed and I combined a cylindrical vibrator with my tongue. Again she seemed to enjoy it but after about 10 minutes she didn't seem to reach a climax. Next time I'll break out the Hitachi Magic Wand.
I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.
She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. During the drive back to her place we held hands. After I dropped her off, with mutual assurances to meet again after she comes back, I looked at the clock. Two hours had passed since I picked her up.
Lee seemed to trust me completely from the outset, showing no hesitation to get into my car, come to my house and give herself to me without limitations. I'the like to think she recognized that I am a decent guy but I couldn't help wondering if she needs to be a little more careful. She said she has only been doing this for a couple of months. Since she's making a big investment in plastic surgery I guess she is committed to it, although she said she plans to become a surgical nurse.
I know this story seems fantastical, but I swear every word of it is true. I don't think I will ever forget this experience. As I have said before.
Damn do I enjoy this hobby.
The term "GFE" is used in almost every ad, but rarely have I been able to say that a provider exemplifies the qualities I would want in a GF. Although "Lee" is not a robo-babe (but see the details below), she is the exception to that rule. She is affectionate, kind, flexible, accommodating and skilled. She not only did everything I suggested, but seemed to take genuine pleasure in doing so.
Having seen Lee's very positive reviews, 3 weeks ago I decided to see her. I set the appointment up by email and confirmed the night before; she emailed "I'll be waiting for you sweetie. " Then when I was on the way to the appointment, I texted her for the first time. She responded saying that she couldn't do it because she had another appointment, and apologized profusely; "I want to make it up to you. " I was quite miffed at the screwup, especially because the person who emailed had indicated that she was the provider, but I resisted the urge to express anger. We all know how the best laid plans can go awry in this hobby. I just said I would try again another time.
A couple of weeks later, swayed by a steady flow of good reviews, I gave it another try. I set up another appointment, this time by text, and emailed to confirm. It turns out the emails are handled by a booker, "Amy," who revealed herself this time. Why she had impersonated the provider the first time I don't know, but it was mistake in judgment that almost cost them a client. (A good one IMHO haha.).
When I texted for the appointment, Lee said she was leaving the next day for a couple of weeks, but could see me in the morning. I arrived at the appointed time and texted her. She unexpectedly replied, "I'm coming out now. " I could only speculate that she wanted to check me out first. She got into my car, we introduced ourselves, and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.
We arrived at my place, I showed her around and we went into the bedroom, effortlessly transitioning to kissing and disrobing. Lee is a K-girl, said she is 26, has nice perky A-be cups, a little extra fat around the waist and a nice butt. In short a completely acceptable GND type. The only flaw in her appearance is that her teeth are not so great. But she told me that the reason she was going away was to have plastic surgery in South America on her breasts, waist and butt! I told her honestly that I thought she didn't need any such enhancement.
Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.
I proceeded to give her more massage and DATY. Since we were at my place I suggested using a toy. She readily agreed and I combined a cylindrical vibrator with my tongue. Again she seemed to enjoy it but after about 10 minutes she didn't seem to reach a climax. Next time I'll break out the Hitachi Magic Wand.
I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.
She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. During the drive back to her place we held hands. After I dropped her off, with mutual assurances to meet again after she comes back, I looked at the clock. Two hours had passed since I picked her up.
Lee seemed to trust me completely from the outset, showing no hesitation to get into my car, come to my house and give herself to me without limitations. I'the like to think she recognized that I am a decent guy but I couldn't help wondering if she needs to be a little more careful. She said she has only been doing this for a couple of months. Since she's making a big investment in plastic surgery I guess she is committed to it, although she said she plans to become a surgical nurse.
I know this story seems fantastical, but I swear every word of it is true. I don't think I will ever forget this experience. As I have said before.
Damn do I enjoy this hobby.Her reviews on the other site have been almost unbelievable but figure they have to be true due to so many of them. I've tried to schedule her recently but just missed her both times. Of course I lucked out and found Macie which had reviews just good and maybe better. But I agree with your comment about GFE. I've never had GFE like I had with Macie and from the reviews it sounded like Lee was the same.
I'm glad you had a good time. I hope Lee doesn't go overboard on surgery, some of these women already look fantastic and I would prefer natural and as they are versus all doctored up.
I'm pretty sure Lee works with a few friends that come and go and usually they tend to be pretty hot as well. Alessandra is one of those.
The term "GFE" is used in almost every ad, but rarely have I been able to say that a provider exemplifies the qualities I would want in a GF. Although "Lee" is not a robo-babe (but see the details below), she is the exception to that rule. She is affectionate, kind, flexible, accommodating and skilled. She not only did everything I suggested, but seemed to take genuine pleasure in doing so.
Having seen Lee's very positive reviews, 3 weeks ago I decided to see her. I set the appointment up by email and confirmed the night before; she emailed "I'll be waiting for you sweetie. " Then when I was on the way to the appointment, I texted her for the first time. She responded saying that she couldn't do it because she had another appointment, and apologized profusely; "I want to make it up to you. " I was quite miffed at the screwup, especially because the person who emailed had indicated that she was the provider, but I resisted the urge to express anger. We all know how the best laid plans can go awry in this hobby. I just said I would try again another time.
A couple of weeks later, swayed by a steady flow of good reviews, I gave it another try. I set up another appointment, this time by text, and emailed to confirm. It turns out the emails are handled by a booker, "Amy," who revealed herself this time. Why she had impersonated the provider the first time I don't know, but it was mistake in judgment that almost cost them a client. (A good one IMHO haha.).
When I texted for the appointment, Lee said she was leaving the next day for a couple of weeks, but could see me in the morning. I arrived at the appointed time and texted her. She unexpectedly replied, "I'm coming out now. " I could only speculate that she wanted to check me out first. She got into my car, we introduced ourselves, and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.
We arrived at my place, I showed her around and we went into the bedroom, effortlessly transitioning to kissing and disrobing. Lee is a K-girl, said she is 26, has nice perky A-be cups, a little extra fat around the waist and a nice butt. In short a completely acceptable GND type. The only flaw in her appearance is that her teeth are not so great. But she told me that the reason she was going away was to have plastic surgery in South America on her breasts, waist and butt! I told her honestly that I thought she didn't need any such enhancement.
Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.
I proceeded to give her more massage and DATY. Since we were at my place I suggested using a toy. She readily agreed and I combined a cylindrical vibrator with my tongue. Again she seemed to enjoy it but after about 10 minutes she didn't seem to reach a climax. Next time I'll break out the Hitachi Magic Wand.
I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.
She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. During the drive back to her place we held hands. After I dropped her off, with mutual assurances to meet again after she comes back, I looked at the clock. Two hours had passed since I picked her up.
Lee seemed to trust me completely from the outset, showing no hesitation to get into my car, come to my house and give herself to me without limitations. I'the like to think she recognized that I am a decent guy but I couldn't help wondering if she needs to be a little more careful. She said she has only been doing this for a couple of months. Since she's making a big investment in plastic surgery I guess she is committed to it, although she said she plans to become a surgical nurse.
I know this story seems fantastical, but I swear every word of it is true. I don't think I will ever forget this experience. As I have said before.
Damn do I enjoy this hobby.Just confirming that the extra $ tip you mentioned = $100. If that's the case, while I'm glad you had a great time, at that price (and even at $280) a GFE should pretty much be the expected standard. The high end K-Agencies routinely offer model-quality providers at 220 (for 45 minutes) and 260-300 for a full hr and almost all of those girls score very high marks (8-10 for both looks and performance) on the oThER site. And speaking of that site, doing a search in the 240-300 price range, and using GFE parameters (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc.), will get you quite an impressive list of quality women who live in or visit Northern VA. The bigger challenge is finding GFE providers (and they do exist) in the less elevated price ranges.
Also, after inconveniencing you once, she very nearly did it to you again. That's because, when the maintenance workers showed up, there was no way she could have known ahead of time whether going to another location was going to work for you and she gave you no advance notice. Again, I'm glad for your sake that you came up with an alternate plan but it certainly could have turned out out differently had your place been further away or had you been on a tighter schedule. That's not a knock on her because maybe it was due to inexperience or just unforeseeable circumstances, but it's fair to point out that not every client would have been able to roll with the changes. And if you had been forced to cancel the appt for a second time, your post would have been ripping her a new one instead of praising her.
Please believe that I'm not trying to rain on your parade or downgrade your experience in any way. It's just that after many years of participating in the hobby I've often seen (and it's happened to me, too) mongers get smitten with a particular provider and engage in a kind of "halo effect". And it can happen to providers also, perhaps even more so if they are new to the biz.
So I'm posting simply to point out that the afterglow of a great session is something to absolutely enjoy but eventually gravity brings us all down from the clouds. My hope for you is that Lee doesn't become jaded with more experience and that the two of you will continue to share a special chemistry. But don't forget to keep a good balance between the little head and the big one.
Bunker Buster
09-05-15, 22:06
and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.
Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.
I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.
She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. .I concur that you're slipping under "the halo effect. ".
The "maintenance workers" in her apartment were probably 2 customers seeing other girls, so there were no available bedrooms.
When she got into your car, was she going to pay for the hotel made necessary by her situation, or was the expectation that you were going to pay for it, on top of her fee?
Looking down this page alone, I see that you're routinely spending $300+ on experiences that aren't so great, so you've put yourself into a mindset where you're putting up with K-agency nonsense, but have crossed over thinking that a good GFE is worth $400. Halfway down this page, you're out $1,000 and only had one satisfying experience.
If I'm spending four bills, I'm knowing for a fact that Greek is on the menu, and the cover is still in its original wrapper.
Why not ditch the Asian agencies for a while and try some independent traveling girls with good reviews?
Ambidextrous
09-06-15, 07:28
I concur that you're slipping under "the halo effect. ".
The "maintenance workers" in her apartment were probably 2 customers seeing other girls, so there were no available bedrooms.
When she got into your car, was she going to pay for the hotel made necessary by her situation, or was the expectation that you were going to pay for it, on top of her fee?
Looking down this page alone, I see that you're routinely spending $300+ on experiences that aren't so great, so you've put yourself into a mindset where you're putting up with K-agency nonsense, but have crossed over thinking that a good GFE is worth $400. Halfway down this page, you're out $1,000 and only had one satisfying experience.
If I'm spending four bills, I'm knowing for a fact that Greek is on the menu, and the cover is still in its original wrapper.
Why not ditch the Asian agencies for a while and try some independent traveling girls with good reviews?JmS and BB, your points are appreciated, but I honestly don't think I am under a halo effect. This kind of service is almost unknown in my experience. Everyone has their own propensities and what Lee and I did may not turn your crank, but to me this was an off the clock, no-holds-barred GFE; I could scarcely ask for more from a real GF. Especially at lower (BP) price points you cannot find that, at least not with young, attractive providers. (Believe me I have tried.) I think my $3. 8 was well spent.
BTW, when she got in my car she had a piece of paper with the hotel address and room number written on it. It seemed the room was already rented and I'm sure I wouldn't have had to pay for it.
Also BTW, you seem to suggest that bareback is a higher level of service a provider could offer. In my view that is reckless and I don't even want it to be on the menu with a provider.
Respectfully submitted.
JmS and BB, your points are appreciated, but I honestly don't think I am under a halo effect. This kind of service is almost unknown in my experience. Everyone has their own propensities and what Lee and I did may not turn your crank, but to me this was an off the clock, no-holds-barred GFE; I could scarcely ask for more from a real GF. Especially at lower (BP) price points you cannot find that, at least not with young, attractive providers. (Believe me I have tried.) I think my $3. 8 was well spent.
BTW, when she got in my car she had a piece of paper with the hotel address and room number written on it. It seemed the room was already rented and I'm sure I wouldn't have had to pay for it.
Also BTW, you seem to suggest that bareback is a higher level of service a provider could offer. In my view that is reckless and I don't even want it to be on the menu with a provider.
Respectfully submitted.I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.
Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.
So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).
It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.
To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.
What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.
So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.
BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lee-gorgeous-asian-lady-let-me-show-you-why-i-have-great-reviews/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.
Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!
Isn't that a little steep for a K-girl? I pay 1. 6 for a C-girl operation that swaps the girl our every week to ten days. The catch here is the ages and looks vary and one week you may get an absolute stunner, then the next week get a 30 yr old with average looks. Can you PM me digits? I may give it a try. Be safe out there.The K-Girl agencies that have their websites are different from the Asian agencies that advertise on BP. They post pictures of the available girls and there are generally reviews of the girls on the other website. There are at least 4 or 5 now operating in the area and they all have the same price range: 220 for 45 and 260 for the hour, with 40 more for GFE Plus (whatever that means). Of course, over time, they disappear and new ones pop up. The girls are usually attractive and young and provide a GFE experience with BBBJ and sometimes rimming. I have never used the other type of agencies but I have read feedback that the ladies are less attractive and not GFE, more business like. Another big difference is that the K-Girl agencies with the websites all require screening before you can get an appointment. You need to go on their website and submit references.
I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.
Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.
So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).
It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.
To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.
What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.
So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.
BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lee-gorgeous-asian-lady-let-me-show-you-why-i-have-great-reviews/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.
Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!I find it quite easy to find GFE with young attractive women at the 300-350 price range. There are plenty of women with great reviews at that price point on the other website. Trying to find GFE at 200 or even 250 with a young attractive woman, now that is much more difficult and it has been a struggle for me in this area. The best I can find so far are the K-girl agencies that I have mentioned in the past at the 220 for 45 minutes option. From time to time, I do find a gem on BP at a lower price but as soon as they get noticed on the other website, the price quickly moves up to the 300 or higher price range. That has happened to me a number of times. A few years ago, I meet this wonderful girl who was great in bed with BBBJ and greek advertising on BP at 150 for the hour. After a few reviews, she moved the price up to 200, then 250 and then 300 and now she charges 400 and she has no shortage of clients.
Now I am always on the hunt for reasonably priced girls but with BP, it is very hit and miss and I have had my share of disappointments and money down the drain. Thus from time to time I go to the well reviewed escort at the 300 price point to get a great experience with an attractive fun lady.
Bossanova86
09-06-15, 20:29
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-massage/19040045
So I know someone else reviewed her recently, but here's my review of her. The pictures are of her, I'm glad she took some better photos of herself because the ones from before looked a bit like the "crazy bite my dick off" kind of look. Her new pictures actually make her out to be a lot younger than she really is with the many layers of makeup she has on. In reality she's a lot older, I'd go as far as to say late 40's if not 50's and this is with the youthfulness look of asians (so keep that in mind). I went and visited her at the hotel, basically right next to two restaurants and a very well known wholesale warehouse in Chantilly. Basic two call system, her english was good on the phone, but as soon as I got in there her english was just bad like very bad, I might as well have communicated with cave man like hand gestures and grunts.
Anyways, she gave a very laxadasical and rubbish back massage / rub with minor teasing. On the flip it was a CBJ with some enthusiasm and after about 5 minutes then came the "I'm tired, transition to missionary and fuck me so I can leave move". She gives very comical asian porn video vocals which was kind of annoying, but atleast she was trying. She doesn't smell bad and the room was cleanly, she appears to be very nice and seems to also be looking for good clientele as after I had left she immediately texted me to come back next time etc.
To be brutally honest, I won't go back, 5 out of 10 for me, a very run of the mill standard asian BP gal. Things to note, I don't think she's independant, because when I arrived and when I was leaving she was shadowing her phone and texting with someone. If you guys do not want to take a gamble with the various fake asian picture ads that rotate and you like what you see from those pictures in the ad, by all means she's going to do her best to take care of you, she's just nothing remarkable or anything special about her.
Member #5008
09-07-15, 07:18
I will be in Manassas tomorrow night. Any information on an UTR provider in the area would be greatly appreciated!
Ambidextrous
09-07-15, 10:20
I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.
Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.
So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).
It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.
To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.
What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.
So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.
BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lee-gorgeous-asian-lady-let-me-show-you-why-i-have-great-reviews/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.
Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!Your comments are perceptive and it's true that I'm a K-girl aficionado. However I'm skeptical about the theory that K-girls command a premium. Can you get a true GFE from a young attractive provider of any race or nationality for less than $3? Based on personal experience and reading the reviews and forums, it's rare. For example I recently paid $3. 2 to see a young attractive Caucasian provider, Rachel W. (
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3960-Escort-Reports&p=2559548). I was surprised to learn that her menu could not by any stretch be called GFE.
I also note an increasing number of providers advertising at the $4 - $6 price level. Not surprisingly they have excellent reviews and I am finding myself tempted to splurge on one. But for now at least I am not at the upper end of the spectrum.
Respectfully submitted.
Your comments are perceptive and it's true that I'm a K-girl aficionado. However I'm skeptical about the theory that K-girls command a premium. Can you get a true GFE from a young attractive provider of any race or nationality for less than $3? Based on personal experience and reading the reviews and forums, it's rare. For example I recently paid $3. 2 to see a young attractive Caucasian provider, Rachel W. (
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3960-Escort-Reports&p=2559548). I was surprised to learn that her menu could not by any stretch be called GFE.
I also note an increasing number of providers advertising at the $4 - $6 price level. Not surprisingly they have excellent reviews and I am finding myself tempted to splurge on one. But for now at least I am not at the upper end of the spectrum.
Respectfully submitted.I do agree most of the consistent and basically guaranteed arrangements giving you a beautiful & YOUNG woman and great GFE is closer to $3 or $2. 2 for the 45 min regular option. Frankly I enjoy the regular about as much as the plus anyway.
I did review a Thai provider recently that was $2. 0 for 30 and experience was the best I have ever had. But for an extra $. 6 you get 60 min with her instead of 30 so I pay the extra.
The Chinese outfits 1. 3/1. 6 are just too inconsistent but if you are patient and frequent enough you do occasionally find gems. I have found a few that wanted to hang out after they got off or would make me their last appointment and then let me stay after and even play some more. But those are super super rare.
I see the others points in that spending too much supports these ridiculous prices and pushes many of us out of those ranges. But it is your money and if you feel it's worth it then so be it. And frankly I agree on the 45 reg option for the Kgirl. I don't think I've ever left one of those disappointed but I've sure wasted some drives out to see the 1. 3 Chinese condos to turn around and walk out or stick around for a terrible performance by an average looking girl.
Frankly I'm not sure anyone is wrong here. But I probably wouldn't have given the extra Benjamin! But I'm sure she appreciated it.
Good evening everyone.
I will be in NVA next week for business and staying in the Leesburg area, any good provider info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Merlin.
Your comments are perceptive and it's true that I'm a K-girl aficionado. However I'm skeptical about the theory that K-girls command a premium. Can you get a true GFE from a young attractive provider of any race or nationality for less than $3? Based on personal experience and reading the reviews and forums, it's rare. For example I recently paid $3. 2 to see a young attractive Caucasian provider, Rachel W. (
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3960-Escort-Reports&p=2559548). I was surprised to learn that her menu could not by any stretch be called GFE.
I also note an increasing number of providers advertising at the $4 - $6 price level. Not surprisingly they have excellent reviews and I am finding myself tempted to splurge on one. But for now at least I am not at the upper end of the spectrum.
Respectfully submitted.What I would call the hobby Trifecta is 1) young; 2) hot looks; 3) GFE. While there are certainly individual variations I think it's fair to say that providers possessing those three qualities will always command a premium, no matter what their nationality or ethnicity. But what that premium is, and what prices are in general, will depend greatly on the relative supply and demand and also on the mix of new entrants into the provider pool.
My main point about K-girls in the DMV, and perhaps I didn't make it as effectively as I could have, is primarily about the lack of supply. All high-end providers (Black, Asian, Caucasian, Latina, etc) will command a premium if they meet (or promise to meet) Trifecta standards. But groups with more relative supply and / or with more new providers entering the local hobby scene, will offer a greater variation of prices and service levels and better opportunities to find GFE for less. AFAICT, independent K-girls are quite rare in the DMV and the K-agencies import their talent from outside the area. I don't see an influx of new, lower priced, K-escorts in the way that regularly occurs with Latina, Caucasian and Black providers. I've had some great GFE finds among newer Latinas, for example, and regulars often continue to get the original rate even after prices increase for new clients.
On the demand side of the equation, we hobbyists need to step up and take responsibility for our propensity to think with the little head and spend the kind of $ that induces providers from all over the f*cking United States (and Canada, and Central / South America) to come to the DMV to lighten our wallets in a major way! If the girls from CA, NY and elsewhere could make the same money close to home and thereby avoid incurring travel expenses, they definitely would. And it's absolutely true that they need the money more than we need the p*ssy, but we persist in acting as though they hold all the cards.
I don't know what percentage of the hobbyists in the DMV participate in this forum but I bet we make up a pretty decent portion of regularly active mongers. So, IMHO, the best prescription is to do lots of homework, always RTFF, push back on prices (politely) when you can and think with the big head so you don't overpay.
What I would call the hobby Trifecta is 1) young; 2) hot looks; 3) GFE. While there are certainly individual variations I think it's fair to say that providers possessing those three qualities will always command a premium, no matter what their nationality or ethnicity. But what that premium is, and what prices are in general, will depend greatly on the relative supply and demand and also on the mix of new entrants into the provider pool.
My main point about K-girls in the DMV, and perhaps I didn't make it as effectively as I could have, is primarily about the lack of supply. All high-end providers (Black, Asian, Caucasian, Latina, etc) will command a premium if they meet (or promise to meet) Trifecta standards. But groups with more relative supply and / or with more new providers entering the local hobby scene, will offer a greater variation of prices and service levels and better opportunities to find GFE for less. AFAICT, independent K-girls are quite rare in the DMV and the K-agencies import their talent from outside the area. I don't see an influx of new, lower priced, K-escorts in the way that regularly occurs with Latina, Caucasian and Black providers. I've had some great GFE finds among newer Latinas, for example, and regulars often continue to get the original rate even after prices increase for new clients.
On the demand side of the equation, we hobbyists need to step up and take responsibility for our propensity to think with the little head and spend the kind of $ that induces providers from all over the f*cking United States (and Canada, and Central / South America) to come to the DMV to lighten our wallets in a major way! If the girls from CA, NY and elsewhere could make the same money close to home and thereby avoid incurring travel expenses, they definitely would. And it's absolutely true that they need the money more than we need the p*ssy, but we persist in acting as though they hold all the cards.
I don't know what percentage of the hobbyists in the DMV participate in this forum but I bet we make up a pretty decent portion of regularly active mongers. So, IMHO, the best prescription is to do lots of homework, always RTFF, push back on prices (politely) when you can and think with the big head so you don't overpay.A lot of these hoes say "no negotiations" "gentlemen don't haggle they tip" so I just avoid them and those who don't list their fee are told it's.
Too high over the phone when I hang up. For those who refuse to discuss fees or services except in person I also hang up and say why. The rates.
Here are definitely getting crazy. In Atlanta earlier this year I met a provider who was a 27 yr old HS cheerleading coach (I googled her number and.
Found her real name etc.) who was GFE DFK DATY and CIM for $200.00 and she asked if that was "ok" LOL. I told her she should travel up here.
And get 150.00 an hr more but she said she was getting married soon and would retire LOL.
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Hello fellow mongers, was wondering if? Anyone had any favorite UTR in the area they would like to share?
Have one but she is located all the way in MD and bit of a hike, so was looking for one in the NOVA area.
Pilot Aviator
09-17-15, 18:01
I'd be happy to share my favorite UTR with you, but regretably, when she is not busy with me, she is busy caring for her flying unicorn.
Sorry. But when YOU find one, always be nice to the lady!
PA.
Hello fellow mongers, was wondering if? Anyone had any favorite UTR in the area they would like to share?
Have one but she is located all the way in MD and bit of a hike, so was looking for one in the NOVA area.
I'd be happy to share my favorite UTR with you, but regretably, when she is not busy with me, she is busy caring for her flying unicorn.
Sorry. But when YOU find one, always be nice to the lady!
PA.Most definitely treating my MD UTR with absolute kindness.
Ambidextrous
09-20-15, 17:22
Anna is a 27-year-old Thai with a bubbly, playful personality. Her body is firm, even around her slender waist, and is adorned with several tattoos. She is not a no-holds-barred provider but she was comfortable with me and let herself go during the session, which made it spontaneous and even thrilling.
The providers I have seen at this agency have been good and those I have not garnered excellent reviews. Anna arrived a couple of days ago and the booker texted me her ad website address. Although she has no reviews I felt Anna was a good bet. Admittedly a gamble but I have been disappointed even by some providers who have glowing reviews, so there is no sure thing in this hobby. Also this agency seems to have a rare degree of correspondence between ad claims and reality, both in photos and service. They deserve all the success they seem to be having. (For whatever protection it's worth I will not disclose the website address here. Trusted contributors can PM.).
After introductory chitchat and disrobing, as I often do I asked Anna what she would like to do. She replied "Everything!" and reciprocated the question. I have met Thai providers who do Greek so I simply said, I like ass. She made a slight face and said she doesn't do that. So much for "everything," but I was okay with the limitation and it was not an awkward moment.
Proceeded to worship that wonderful hardbody with massagi, DATO and DATY. She has the most perfect breasts you can imagine with firm eraser tips. She allowed one knuckle deep penetration in the back door but she said it hurt so I abandoned that. She got off so quickly from DATY that I thought she was faking it but as I went on it became apparent she was not. She writhed more than most during DATY and her climax was punctuated by sudden involuntary twitches.
She applied a cover with her mouth and we did missionary and doggie, she seemed to enjoy it. Finished with BBBJCIM with PM. She declined CIF but said if I was the last customer of the day that would be ok. We had a fairly long and wide-ranging after-chat, her cheerful and outgoing personality made it a pleasure. The clock on the bedside table was 5-10 minutes fast and I was out in about 55 minutes.
I felt the chemistry between us was good which created a relaxed, spontaneous session. As I touched her I realized I have never had, and probably never will have, a civilian at my disposal who is so all around hot. Sometimes all the research and hard-earned experience pay off.
Total damage $2. 6. F9 B9 A9 S8.
CflMonger48
09-29-15, 22:55
Gentlemen, I am a Senior Member from FL that comes to the Northern VA area for business. I have met a UTR here locally that is looking to do a limited expansion of her client base. She is really into massages and will expand the menu if she feels safe with you. So this is truly a YMMV situaton. She can only do outcalls right now so you will need to have a place. She is a beautiful woman, 5'6", 120 lbs, and a fantastic body. If you are a Senior Member or a regular member with a high number of quality posts and are interested in spending time with this beautiful woman then pm me and I will give you her contact information.
Be safe out there.
CflMonger48.
I saw her ad a month or two ago and wanted to see her immediately but was talked into Macie instead since Nadia was gone. Macie was one of the best experiences I've ever had so I've been dying to see Nadia so I was happy when I saw she was back in town.
If you've ever visited this Thai outfit you know the normal routine. And this was pretty consistent with every visit I had with Macie. Beautiful petite Thai girl with MM see's. Mutual shower with a BBBJ preview. Back to the room where it continued, DATY, several positions, CIM and another pop in the cover later on. Another great GFE experience here. These girls are amazing at what they do. They make you really feel special when you are there.
Will give further details to respected seniors and friends.
http://naughtyangelnadia.gfefiles.com/home
http://www.mariannathemuse.com/
Highly rated escort with over 330 reviews on the other website. Attractive petite blond in her late 20's originally from Ukraine. Visits the area on a regular basis. High energy intense PSE. She loves sucking cock and will suck your cock from many different positions until you beg her to stop. She is very aggressive and likes to take control. Facef*cking her until you come in her mouth is one of her favorite activities.
Her pictures, videos, rates and screening info are all on her website. $$$ for the hour and you will get non-stop action for the full hour.
She is in Woodbridge. Answered an my ad on CL. Sweet 20 5'4 sweet personality, Spanish and black. Had a good time and tastes good. Be nice.
... Visits the area on a regular basis. ...Did you post this in the wrong forum? DC / NoVA is not one of the cities on her website.
Did you post this in the wrong forum? DC / NoVA is not one of the cities on her website.She was just touring here in DC and NoVa for about 8 days last week. She will be back again.
I saw her ad a month or two ago and wanted to see her immediately but was talked into Macie instead since Nadia was gone. Macie was one of the best experiences I've ever had so I've been dying to see Nadia so I was happy when I saw she was back in town.
If you've ever visited this Thai outfit you know the normal routine. And this was pretty consistent with every visit I had with Macie. Beautiful petite Thai girl with MM see's. Mutual shower with a BBBJ preview. Back to the room where it continued, DATY, several positions, CIM and another pop in the cover later on. Another great GFE experience here. These girls are amazing at what they do. They make you really feel special when you are there.
Will give further details to respected seniors and friends.
http://naughtyangelnadia.gfefiles.com/homeHey guys, long time lurker here figured what better way to break the ice. Was familiar with this crew so reached out to the assistant based on the ad, liked what I saw above. Booking was very easy and location same typical upscale incall. Can confirm everything above, very consistent experience, minor photo shop touchups but WYSIWYG in the add. A little bit of a different spin on the traditional k-girl experience but GFE+ none the less. Definitely visit Nadia before she's out of town (about 10 days).
Mr. Durden.
Xxddeerrff
10-21-15, 02:24
Had the pleasure of seeing Texas Shannon out of a hotel in Woodbridge. Sweet girl, great body. I love it when they say, "let me suck your dick a little more. " Would definetly repeat. Not sure if no ad on BP means they're still in the area, but when she's around, give her a call. I know I am!
Had the pleasure of seeing Texas Shannon out of a hotel in Woodbridge. Sweet girl, great body. I love it when they say, "let me suck your dick a little more. " Would definetly repeat. Not sure if no ad on BP means they're still in the area, but when she's around, give her a call. I know I am!Is this the short blonde with tattoos? I used to see her regularly as she was reliable, but she bailed last minute last time and was quite loopy on the phone.
LiahSoSweet
10-26-15, 17:16
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ShortMan22
11-21-15, 15:25
Asian or Latina Utr to trade or share?
Does anyone know or have an Asian or Latina utr that they would like to share or trade with me.
Please PM me.
Anyone familiar with the Thai outfit in Springfield (Asian Mya) her friend Macie is in town and was possibly one of the best experiences I've ever had. 2. 6 for the H but definitely the closest to GFE I've ever experienced. She either absolutely loves this line of work or she is one hell of an actress because I left there thinking this girl was in love with me. Not once did she ever say no or shy away from anything I wanted and never rushed me for a second. This isn't necessarily why I left feeling that way, but it was just one of the most intense/passionate sessions I've ever had. Even went a little over on time and still offered a shower but I told her my time was up and I didn't want to take time away from her busy day.
Her info is easy to find on the oThER site, but I can answer some questions to some friends (you know who you are) and some trusted seniors.
She is one of the sweetest girls I've met in this hobby so treat her well. I think she's only around for another week or two. But if she is treated well enough she might be back in a few months.
I've kept in touch with her ever since she left here in August. She texted me today and said she'd be back in town tomorrow afternoon for a week, but apparently working with a new group. I plan on getting the contact info of her scheduler of wherever she is working. I have no idea where the place is, what the rates are, or anything but figured I'd follow up since I reviewed her a while back and a few people asked me about her. If you are interested let me know and I'll pass along the info I can get from her.
LukeCageFree
11-28-15, 15:11
I've had a bad case of yellow fever as of late. I'm hesitant to do the crapshoot, and I haven't scaled the k-girl agency wall yet. I was browsing eros for some asian girl options, and saw a few there that are a little too $$$ for my budget. I came across the. And after doing a few google searches, I decided to pay her a visit.
Pretty easy screen. And I took the hr for 3. Since she offered MSOG.
Visited her in Ffx near the mall. Room was really dark when I came in. She greeted me with a kiss on the lips right away. You can tell she wanted the DFK, but I didn't go for it, because I thought I saw something funky w / her mouth.
We both stripped down, and she gave me a top shelf BBBJ. It was really hard to not just release at that point. She would've kept going w / the BBBJ for an hour straight, if I didn't ask her to slap on the jimmy hat to get to biz. Handled the biz missionary, and then I laid out while she gave me a pretty good massage. She had some decent massage skills, not AMP quality, but better than most GFEs. When the lights came on, I verified my suspicion about her busted mouth / teeth.
It wasn't bad enough that I didn't let her begin round 2 of the BBBJ. LOL. After that, had doggy and we called it quits. Offered me a bottle of water and another kiss on the way out.
Service was good, appearance could be better. I may visit again for a quick BBBJ, but for the most part, I am continuing my hunt for a regular asian GFE that hits all the marks.
Personality: 4/5 (Nice girl. No rush, no attitude.).
Face: 2/5 (busted mouth / teeth).
Body: 4/5 (not too much fat, and tigole fake bitties).
Massage: 2. 5/5 (Good for a GFE, but now AMP quality).
Unmentionables: 4/5 (mainly because of how great the BBBJ was).
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/624213.htm
Elber Gonzalez
12-19-15, 14:09
I was looking for a bbw and I'm glad I went to see Star, she is 5'7 tall, 19 years old cutie and love to please. I didn't have big expectations since another provider was in the room when I got there and she wanted that friend to stay in the restroom, I was okay with that because Star looks way better in person (for bbw and DDD's lovers) and really wanted try her out, overall a SUPERB service, she is very RESPONSIVE, but as always say YMMV. The bad news is she is going back home on Sunday, yeah, another one just visiting the area =[.
I was not able to get visual material during my two visits this week, I'll do my best next time, meanwhile I'm posting these from her ad.
http://www.butterflylegend.com/#!be-be / cgnd.
Bebe works at Butterfly Legend, a Korean agency. Screening is required but once you are screened, the agency always seems to have new attractive slim Korean ladies in their 20's every two weeks or so. BeBe is a sexy young lady in her 20's, 5'3", 120 pounds, a sexy energetic young lady that tries hard to please you. The routine starts with a mutual shower where you get a preview BJ. Bebe is very good in oral skills and she had me sit on the bed to continue the BBBJ and then more BJ lying on my back. We did the various positions and she was enthusiastic throughout. She finished me off with a combo BJ / HJ and I was very satisfied.
There are a number of Korean agencies operating in NoVa and BL is one of the better ones. 220/45 minutes; 260/ hr. She also has a number of rave reviews at the other website.
I've kept in touch with her ever since she left here in August. She texted me today and said she'd be back in town tomorrow afternoon for a week, but apparently working with a new group. I plan on getting the contact info of her scheduler of wherever she is working. I have no idea where the place is, what the rates are, or anything but figured I'd follow up since I reviewed her a while back and a few people asked me about her. If you are interested let me know and I'll pass along the info I can get from her.Yes, I had an hour with Macie and felt the same way. On my way out. I held out my iPhone and asked for a photo or 2 - she took my phone and typed in her number and hit send. So she had my number and sent me a real nice photo of her, I treasure it.
Good luck guys she is mesmerizing.
E-8.
Thinking about trying this young lady. Anyone have experience with her?
Http://yenalovely.wix.com/Yena
Thinking about trying this young lady. Anyone have experience with her?
Http://yenalovely.wix.com/YenaSeriously, your not new to this game. Research her! Very nice Provider.
I'd=290246, Guess where.
Seriously, your not new to this game. Research her! Very nice Provider.
I'd=290246, Guess where.I did research her on the other site, which is why I am interested.
But didn't find any info on her on this site when I searched here.
I actually, copy and pasted her link from the other site!
I have been looking at the various Asian agencies and they all seem to give a price for GFE at say 220 then GFE+ for 260. Can someone enlighten me as to what the difference is (other than $40.) PM is fine. Thanks.
Heelman.
Member #5246
03-05-16, 22:06
Hello.
I'm living in Charlottesville and I usually indulge my hobby in Richmond.
I'm driving north tomorrow and so I'll pass through NoVa. I'd like to spend time with a good provider and I'm wondering if someone would PM me with a tip. I know no one in the area. I'd like a high-end GFE experience. I can reciprocate if you are ever in Richmond.
Regards.
Charlie.
Elber Gonzalez
03-10-16, 08:21
After a forced break from the scene I found time to get screenshots from my last wonderful session with Val, if you like tall and don't mind the extra pounds you won't regret seeing her now she is in Arlington with apparently new look.
I have been looking at the various Asian agencies and they all seem to give a price for GFE at say 220 then GFE+ for 260. Can someone enlighten me as to what the difference is (other than $40.) PM is fine. Thanks.
Heelman.Usually nothing. Its just an extra 40 for the house and the girl may not get an extra dolla.
PC out.
Hicontrastlvr
04-19-16, 17:42
Usually nothing. Its just an extra 40 for the house and the girl may not get an extra dolla.
PC out.Are! M j included.
Member #6049
04-19-16, 23:54
After a forced break from the scene I found time to get screenshots from my last wonderful session with Val, if you like tall and don't mind the extra pounds you won't regret seeing her now she is in Arlington with apparently new look.I saw her once back in November. Didn't know she lets you record the session!
Sfrancis118
04-20-16, 07:14
Had a chance to meet her last week and was not disappointed. Tiffany has a great body smile and personality. My time with her felt sincere and unrushed. Dfk BBBJ 69 daty fiv fia were enjoyed. Wouldn't do a stripper slide but still a great experience. A little more than typical agencies at 400 but worth it IMO. I plan to repeat.
http://ame.companionfiles.com/models/34227
757XXX8259 Anyone have any info on her; we were communicating and then she just stopped. Maybe in the Manassas area.
She mentioned that she loves this site and that she is a member here under the screen name jamiejinxy.
I saw her last week as I found out that she would be in town for a few days and seeing all the positive reviews, and I must agree with everything.
She was simply amazing. Probably the most accommodating provider that I had ever had the pleasure of spending time with. She really goes the extra mile to make you feel comfortable and the entire session was all about making sure that I left happy.
Her rates were "standard", but she provided much more than the typical service you typically get for that rate.
I also really like her appearance, but you may have different taste. She is a curvy woman.
Here is her website: http://jamieinsaratoga.com/home.
The downside? She is gone, and doesn't plan on coming back often. She said her next trip down would be in November.
Great reviews on her. What part of NO Va does she host? Hard to qualify for a visit?
Thanks for any info.
Had a chance to meet her last week and was not disappointed. Tiffany has a great body smile and personality. My time with her felt sincere and unrushed. Dfk BBBJ 69 daty fiv fia were enjoyed. Wouldn't do a stripper slide but still a great experience. A little more than typical agencies at 400 but worth it IMO. I plan to repeat.
http://ame.companionfiles.com/models/34227
Had a chance to meet her last week and was not disappointed. Tiffany has a great body smile and personality. My time with her felt sincere and unrushed. Dfk BBBJ 69 daty fiv fia were enjoyed. Wouldn't do a stripper slide but still a great experience. A little more than typical agencies at 400 but worth it IMO. I plan to repeat.
http://ame.companionfiles.com/models/34227Glad you had a nice time but there are so many GFE options out there at around $300, not sure what Tiffany offers that's worth an extra $.
FWIW, the Eros GFE section has quite a few hotties at the 300 level and, with a little homework on this forum and the oThER site, you should be able to find even better values.
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/sections/washington_dc_gfe_escorts.htm
Sfrancis118
05-01-16, 12:47
Glad you had a nice time but there are so many GFE options out there at around $300, not sure what Tiffany offers that's worth an extra $.
FWIW, the Eros GFE section has quite a few hotties at the 300 level and, with a little homework on this forum and the oThER site, you should be able to find even better values.
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/sections/washington_dc_gfe_escorts.htmThanks for the advice but I'm happy with my choice and hope members appreciate the contribution. I've posted many reviews on the other site as well so that we all can review and make our own informed choices.
Sfrancis118
05-01-16, 12:55
My experiences with matchless have gone downhill. I used to visit almost weekly. My last experience withBonnie was a bit of a disappointment. Asked for $$ up front no problem. However her demeanor changed once in hand. She was sweet and flirty at first. Changed to hurry up mode after. Don't do that. Are you going to come yet. Would fight me with her legs to not get deeper penetration. Their first stable of girls were great. Eastern European with great attention attitude and service. Not sure what went wrong.
https://matchlessbeauties.com/escorts/bonnie/
Thanks for the advice but I'm happy with my choice and hope members appreciate the contribution. I've posted many reviews on the other site as well so that we all can review and make our own informed choices.Just to clarify, nothing in my post was intended to downplay either your experience or your contribution. And, as I said, I'm happy you had a good session. But one of the great benefits of this forum is to share intel not only about specific providers but also about how to get the most for our hard-earned $.
IMHO, when it comes to the higher price levels, the differences between $300-$400-$500+ GFE providers become much more intangible. That's because, assuming they provide the services that qualify them for the GFE label, after that it mostly comes down to appearance and whatever type of ambiance or connection there is between provider and client. But the tricky part about such intangibles is how much they can vary from individual to individual, and even from session to session with the same provider.
If you think of high-priced GFE escorts in the same way as Michelin 3-star restaurants, the differences are similarly intangible and individual. In your post you provided a stellar review of one such establishment. In my post I'm adhering to your advice about making informed choices by pointing out that there are others who may provide a similarly wonderful experience for less.
Of course, as always, every hobbyist will check out the available marketplace options and spend their money as they see fit.
Sfrancis118
05-02-16, 08:51
Just to clarify, nothing in my post was intended to downplay either your experience or your contribution. And, as I said, I'm happy you had a good session. But one of the great benefits of this forum is to share intel not only about specific providers but also about how to get the most for our hard-earned $.
IMHO, when it comes to the higher price levels, the differences between $300-$400-$500+ GFE providers become much more intangible. That's because, assuming they provide the services that qualify them for the GFE label, after that it mostly comes down to appearance and whatever type of ambiance or connection there is between provider and client. But the tricky part about such intangibles is how much they can vary from individual to individual, and even from session to session with the same provider.
If you think of high-priced GFE escorts in the same way as Michelin 3-star restaurants, the differences are similarly intangible and individual. In your post you provided a stellar review of one such establishment. In my post I'm adhering to your advice about making informed choices by pointing out that there are others who may provide a similarly wonderful experience for less.
Of course, as always, every hobbyist will check out the available marketplace options and spend their money as they see fit.Fair enough. With that said, maybe we post a value chart by price range and include some recommendations. For example rank providers in the 100-200,200-300,300-400, and 400+.
I've had varied experiences at different price points. Recently found an agency at 200 (see Baltimore) that has proven to be a great value. At 300 some success with Ame.companionfiles, jennifersmodels, and flawless. Downhill experiences with matchless. (See below).
IMHO could prove insightful.
Roamin Roman
05-05-16, 05:34
Fair enough. With that said, maybe we post a value chart by price range and include some recommendations. For example rank providers in the 100-200,200-300,300-400, and 400+.Unfortunately, while such an endeavor might seem feasible, it's doomed to failure and frustration.
PRICE is entirely an objective measure, while VALUE is largely a subjective measure (even with multiple metrics attached). The PRICE that a person is willing to pay for a commodity or service depends on the VALUE that one attaches to it. Different people will attach different values to various and sundry commodities or services, which is the Free Market in unhindered operation. The market will determine the optimum PRICE that a commodity or service can command, via the countless voluntary individual transactions that occur (all of which depend on the particular VALUE that those individuals place on the commodity or service).
Sellers also attach value to the commodity or service they are offering, and that will dictate their asking price. In all likelihood, the value they attach and the value a potential buyer attaches will differ, but their respective acceptable price ranges might overlap. If those ranges do overlap, then a negotiation ensues. If a seller is astute, he or she will adjust the asking price to the point that best maximizes the number of transactions within the price range he or she is willing to accept for the commodity or service (again, based on the perceived value).
The point is, since we all (the potential buyers) have different values that we attach to even the same BP providers, attempting to categorize providers into a value chart by price range will be an exercise in futility. If each of us is satisfied with the price we each pay for a provider's services, then we've obtained "good value. " That's about the best you'll be able to do, IMO.
Now, that said, one can produce a chart that groups providers by PRICE vs. SERVICES, both of which are objective measures. However, one will still be left with the question of QUALITY of said services. Absent specific metrics to adjudge those services, even this sort of ranking system will fail. Besides, who among us wants (or is able) to think about objective metrics when some provider has either pair of her lips wrapped around Junior? I know my focus won't be on objective metrics at that point; I'll be focused on subjective matters. But maybe other mongers can compartmentalize thinks, in a Mr. Spock-like manner, while a session is in progress. Who knows? Who cares?
Good luck, though, should you attempt such a chart and ranking system. I'll be interested in seeing its implementation.
Roman
P.S. - By the way, when you think about it, the USASG basically is already doing what you're seeking to do: rank the relative Price-Value of any given provider. It's just that the USASG does it in a much more thorough way, via the various discussions and reports. For any given provider, our community is able to thresh out approximately where that provider is located in the Price-Value continuum.
Unfortunately, while such an endeavor might seem feasible, it's doomed to failure and frustration.
PRICE is entirely an objective measure, while VALUE is largely a subjective measure (even with multiple metrics attached). The PRICE that a person is willing to pay for a commodity or service depends on the VALUE that one attaches to it. Different people will attach different values to various and sundry commodities or services, which is the Free Market in unhindered operation. The market will determine the optimum PRICE that a commodity or service can command, via the countless voluntary individual transactions that occur (all of which depend on the particular VALUE that those individuals place on the commodity or service).
Sellers also attach value to the commodity or service they are offering, and that will dictate their asking price. In all likelihood, the value they attach and the value a potential buyer attaches will differ, but their respective acceptable price ranges might overlap. If those ranges do overlap, then a negotiation ensues. If a seller is astute, he or she will adjust the asking price to the point that best maximizes the number of transactions within the price range he or she is willing to accept for the commodity or service (again, based on the perceived value).
The point is, since we all (the potential buyers) have different values that we attach to even the same BP providers, attempting to categorize providers into a value chart by price range will be an exercise in futility. If each of us is satisfied with the price we each pay for a provider's services, then we've obtained "good value. " That's about the best you'll be able to do, IMO.
Now, that said, one can produce a chart that groups providers by PRICE vs. SERVICES, both of which are objective measures. However, one will still be left with the question of QUALITY of said services. Absent specific metrics to adjudge those services, even this sort of ranking system will fail. Besides, who among us wants (or is able) to think about objective metrics when some provider has either pair of her lips wrapped around Junior? I know my focus won't be on objective metrics at that point; I'll be focused on subjective matters. But maybe other mongers can compartmentalize thinks, in a Mr. Spock-like manner, while a session is in progress. Who knows? Who cares?
Good luck, though, should you attempt such a chart and ranking system. I'll be interested in seeing its implementation.
Roman
P.S. - By the way, when you think about it, the USASG basically is already doing what you're seeking to do: rank the relative Price-Value of any given provider. It's just that the USASG does it in a much more thorough way, via the various discussions and reports. For any given provider, our community is able to thresh out approximately where that provider is located in the Price-Value continuum.As you mentioned, the hobby is an interesting mix of the commodity (pussy) itself + appearance + service and I think there are some interesting parallels to similar markets. One that comes immediately to mind is the market for hotel beds (or even airline seats). The bed itself is the commodity but it's the difference in the appearance, convenience and service factors that work together to determine the price.
Just like with hotels, there are 5-star providers at the top and a wide variety going all the way down to 1-star at the bottom. And just like with hotels, every buyer in the market wants to get the most value for their hard-earned dollar. Nobody wants to pay 5-star prices for a 2-star experience and that's why there are so many hotel price search and review sites.
But a huge difference between these two markets is that the hotel industry has pricing down to a science so they know exactly when they can charge more and when they need to offer a discount. Unfortunately, most providers either copy other girls or they may develop "Golden Pussy" syndrome and simply assume the price should be whatever they think they're worth (and that mongers should be happy to pay it). IMHO there are a few reasons why some providers can get away with charging above-market prices. For one, they may be part-timers who don't need a steady income from the hobby. Also, there will always be mongers who are too busy (or lazy or newbies or whatever) and, if they happen to have the $, they will pay the higher fee. And finally, there's the dreaded little-head-itis, when the urge hits and you have a limited window of opportunity and your gonads tell you to just go for it.
But what's crazy to me is that some of the same guys who will scour sites like Expedia and Kayak and TripAdvisor for the very best value in a hotel room too often don't put forth the same effort when it comes to finding an escort. When you think about this site (Hey, we're the TripAdvisor of Pussy!) and oThERs, it's not that heavy a lift. Of course, every monger has their own preferences (young vs MILF, spinner vs stacked, GND vs exotic, etc.) but that's where good homework comes in to make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
Here's one example as an illustration (these NOVA sites have similar offerings, young hotties for "private viewing" sessions):
http://bluegems.com/the-ladies/
http://www.secrettemptation.com/page4.html
http://www.edenmodelsva.com/gallery/
They all used to charge 120 for a hh session until bluegems raised it to 140. From my perspective (full disclosure, I haven't visited any of them) unless I had an especially good report about a particular bluegems girl, I'd see no reason to pay the higher fee. I absolutely understand it's only $20, but if you found a hotel room for $20 less than another that was in the same neighborhood and comparable in every respect, what's the justification for the higher price?
The bottom line is that the more info that's out there about price + service + all the other relevant factors mongers care about, the more efficiently the market will function. But all the resources in the world won't help if hobbyists don't engage the big head and use them.
Sommelier13
05-15-16, 18:59
Visiting for the week, would love for someone to save me a lot of time researching. .
Bunker Buster
05-15-16, 20:07
The bottom line is that the more info that's out there about price + service + all the other relevant factors mongers care about, the more efficiently the market will function. But all the resources in the world won't help if hobbyists don't engage the big head and use them.Whether hotels, airlines, clothing, or restaurants, there are always people who will pay the going rate without doing any legwork, either out of laziness, ignorance, or status seeking. We here can pat ourselves and each other on the back for participating in the hobby's TripAdvisor (or are we Yelpers?, LOL), knowing that we're mostly getting better prices, service, and value, with less risk, than the average lunk out there.
There will always be someone getting a free room or a free meal, but if you're consistently beating the rack rate and getting good value (satisfactory return on expenditure), the suckers who are overpaying are their own problem. If anything, by spending their time and money on the bad deals, they're leaving the better deals available for us.
Who remembers the Syms clothing store's motto? "An Educated Consumer is our Best Customer".
Sommelier13
05-15-16, 21:10
Visiting for a week, can anyone recommend a good provider?
JazonArgos15
05-16-16, 12:09
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I banned your old user for being an asshole and it doesn't look like you're learning anything.
I suggest you learn to use the ignore function.
A2
Roamin Roman
05-16-16, 21:15
Visiting for a week, can anyone recommend a good provider?Well, amigo, your posting history isn't one that would give many long-time members a lot of comfort. Many of your posts are of the "Does anyone know" variety, rather than posts that provide board members with good, useful intel. Posts that share actionable info from your experiences (both good and bad) help build-up what's known as board cred. Each monger expends his own hard-earned cash and limited free time to obtain the info that he shares, so when someone with a very thin resume comes along and asks for details, it's not likely to be viewed favorably by those who can provide the info you seek. You can still obtain some general info; however, long-time posters still prefer to see a bit more effort on the part of those who ask for info but haven't really contributed much to the forum. The key is participation, my friend.
Now, with that as preface, I can provide you with a few helpful tidbits for your upcoming visit.
(1) The AMPs in the NoVA area (i.e., south of the Potomac River) are nearly all HE operations. If you go north of the river, though, you'll find a number (especially in and around Greenbelt and other spots in Prince Georges County) that offer FS. The rates are typically .7 for house fee and $ for FS.
(2) For BP operations, including the "indies", there are the good, bad, and ugly, just as you'd expect to find anywhere. If you check the USASG's BP forums for Northern Virginia, Maryland, and the District of Columbia, you should be able to weed out the ugly and, most likely, the bad as well. Here in NoVA, I've found that the Chinese operations are fairly reliable and consistent. And, even though you haven't really contributed much to justify it, I'm going to give you a one-time freebie (not that type) by pointing you to a place where you should be able to satisfy your desires. Depending on where you'll be staying when you get here, the following ad is an acceptable one. Not the best, but not the worst.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/attractive-asian-good-service-703-203-0671-centreville/20304139
Now, what do I ask in return? Personally, nothing. But, for the other members of the NoVA forum, as well as your fellow USASG members in your home city, I'd only ask that you try to post more than what you've done thus far. Get involved, rather than being basically a lurker who occasionally comes with hat in hand asking for freebies. When you get involved more actively, you'll find that others will be FAR more willing to share their info, especially the gems that we've all discovered but don't necessarily broadcast far-and-wide. Bear in mind, the success of the USASG is largely driven by sharing and participation. You'll get out what you put in, and then some. But, if you remain on the sidelines, you'll be depriving yourself and your fellow mongers of a lot of good, useful info.
So, there you have it, amigo. The choice is yours, but think about it: We have a cost-free forum with the USASG, with a ton of useful info shared daily, yet too many mongers just don't make use of its full potential. So, come on and join the parade. I guarantee you'll have a lot more fun if you do.
Roman
Cowboy Wilson
05-16-16, 21:31
"The key is participation, my friend. ".
Wow Roamin, you are one patient dude. Most of us had the pin pulled on the grenade. The only thing to add is to suggest A2 put your work on a splash page when new members sign up. Peace.
Visiting for a week, can anyone recommend a good provider?Since your posting history centers mostly around Anchorage, I assume you're familiar with this site:
http://liveescortreviews.com/gallery/anchorage
Substitute "nova" for "anchorage" and you'll be well on your way to what you seek.
BTW, it's pretty hard to give recommendations without some specifics (preferences, price range, car vs public transport, incall vs outcall, etc.).
LoveToDine
05-18-16, 10:17
Thai young lady visiting us for a while in NOVA.
Highly recommend.
$$. 6.
Skills 9/10.
Looks 9/10.
Attitude 10/10.
http://celinajoop.hotprovider.com/profile/
PM questions. Happy Hunting.
LTD.
BrookeOnimous
05-18-16, 18:50
I'm a 30 year old female who is writing about the commercial sex industry.
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Not just no but fuck no. Every single time, WITHOUT FAIL, that somebody does this they end up lifting shit out of context and portraying commercial sex in the worst light possible.
Be gone
A2
Roamin Roman
05-19-16, 15:10
I'm a 30 year old female who is writing about the commercial sex industry.
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Not just no but fuck no. Every single time, WITHOUT FAIL, that somebody does this they end up lifting shit out of context and portraying commercial sex in the worst light possible.
Be gone
A2Glad you nipped this one in the bud before anyone had jumped onto it. My feelings are the same as yours: These sorts of "news" articles invariably have an agenda behind them, and the women (usually) who are writing these stories either misquote, selectively quote, or mischaracterize what someone else says. Now, in fairness to BrookeOnimous (a name which still has an "ominous" anagram-like quality to it), she may have had honest intent. But, similar articles that have come before, which have unfairly portrayed the commercial sex industry, cast an indelible suspicion on her and this "new" article she apparently wants to write. It's not our fault, but the fault of those in her industry (the media).
It may come as a surprise to those like BrookeOnimous, but commercial sex is viewed in some parts of the world as a legitimate means for earning an income. It's not always a "career", but is often merely a temporary means for bridging an income gap or providing for short-term needs. And, while there are abusive and unsavory elements in some sectors, even in this country, there are also those who view the exchange as a legitimate (and ongoing) business relationship.
One also can't help asking, rhetorically, to the media crusaders: If B. J. Clinton (that is, Bill Jefferson Clinton) and his relationship with Monica Lewinsky was excused as "private consensual behavior" (which, clearly, involved some quid pro quo), why isn't the same consideration given to this industry? The answer is obvious: The women who work in AMPs, etc. , aren't necessarily registered with a particular political party and probably don't provide huge campaign donations.
Anyway, thanks again for squelching this (probable) thinly-veiled attempt to yet again cast our private and consensual hobby in the worst possible light.
Roman
Sommelier13
05-19-16, 17:42
Roman, thanks for that response. You are absolutely right.
And BTW sorry for the double post, I didn't think the first one submitted.
WolfPack33
05-23-16, 20:40
I had a dream with Sofi last year and want to see her again but in her ad she now has another number and I couldn't find any reviews with it. I'm wondering if the ad is legit.
Have visited often over the years. She has used different names but has always been a solid local MILF type provider with a GFE menu and fair rates. Mostly offers incall in Chantilly. The pics in her adds are actually hers and her ass is incredible. Easy to schedule with and no games. TER 286980.
http://washingtondc.sugarnights.com/escorts/preslee-blake
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/632102.htm
She has always been a solid performer (for me). I haven't seen her since the number change. Based on it going straight to vm with a spanish operator message (as it did before) I would think it's legit. She used to setup her own appointments so I would keep trying and see if you hear a familiar voice when you connect.
I had a dream with Sofi last year and want to see her again but in her ad she now has another number and I couldn't find any reviews with it. I'm wondering if the ad is legit.
Member #5480
06-03-16, 03:51
Have visited often over the years. She has used different names but has always been a solid local MILF type provider with a GFE menu and fair rates. Mostly offers incall in Chantilly. The pics in her adds are actually hers and her ass is incredible. Easy to schedule with and no games. TER 286980.
http://washingtondc.sugarnights.com/escorts/preslee-blake
http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/632102.htmIs GFE including DFK, BB, and MSOG?
I thought I read that on her page the other day but suddenly it's not there anymore.
Do you recommend hhr or hour?
Is GFE including DFK, BB, and MSOG?
I thought I read that on her page the other day but suddenly it's not there anymore.
Do you recommend hhr or hour?I sent you a PM. Yes she's always been GFE in the real meaning with me but YMMV depending on the usual factors, cleanliness and how you treat her. 1/2 or full hr. Doesn't matter, just depends on your stamina I guess.
I apologize in advance if this is a bit of a dumb question.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading through multiple forums, it seems like the safest and most reliable way to hobby is to use one of the various escort agencies (usually Asian) whom require references for you to get in. I'm still relatively new to the scene here in the states I just recently relocated to DC from overseas which is wear I first got interested in this hobby. Needless to say it's much simpler and more straight forward abroad and especially in the country I was living.
I've visited some AMPs but it's so hot or miss and seems to be overpriced for what you get.
So my question is how exactly to you build up references while stay safe?
And is there any of these agencies that anyone can recommend??
Feel free to PM me.
Thanks in advance! And stay safe and happy hunting!!
FreeWilly12
06-11-16, 18:03
http://www.butterflylegend.com/#!new-model / l43 y7.
Have seen a few girls from this agency but a new girl in town that I wanted to taste. That's an understatement.
Very close to the girl in the pics, 27,cute, looks 8. 5, breast 8,ass,10. All I can say is go see this young spinner before she leaves. Safe location, key pad entry, parking options great.
Not giving all my secrets away, but set up appointment. $$$ GFE+ and it was plus. Meet at door, shoes off, lfk, let to bedroom. Nice music, low lighting, and then our hands wonder all over. Met on one piece lingerie with no panties and she was ready. Traditional listeria toast, bath with washing all the important areas.
Then let me to the bed and she proceeded to get on all 4's with that beautiful ass in the air and I started to feast on her sweet pussy. No fake moans here. After that we proceeded to lay next to each other dfk, which she is new at coming from NYC, AMP, everything covered and only one pop. I them proceeded to feast on her pussy (the longest I have ever spent at the diner, but it was so good, Fiv, no fia, but she had multiple O's that once I finished she had to take a break. Started back doggy, then cg and rcg. Slow night on my part but after changing to 69 I finally cim and she graciously spit it out into towel. We both layer back and caught our wind and I only had the one pop in me tonight. To the showers with a nice clean up and she wanted to make sure I was clean. Will hopefully repeat before she leaves. If you want a treat go see her and find your joy to the world!
I have also seen a number of ladies at this agency and I have been highly satisfied. Very reliable well run agency. I find the Korean agencies to be a big step up from the AMPs but screening is required. Once you are screened, it is simple to make an appointment with call or text and time and choice of lady. The other Korean agencies in town also have good reputations but sometimes screening takes a while.
I have also seen a number of ladies at this agency and I have been highly satisfied. Very reliable well run agency. I find the Korean agencies to be a big step up from the AMPs but screening is required. Once you are screened, it is simple to make an appointment with call or text and time and choice of lady. The other Korean agencies in town also have good reputations but sometimes screening takes a while.How does one get references? I can't imagine my local provider wants to lose business. I only started a few months ago. I have not had any truly bad experiences, and no bad interactions. Most providers would remember me (I am distinctive in appearance), and I would think positively.
The talent at that sight was. Interesting and I want to learn more. Thanks for sharing.
How does one get references? I can't imagine my local provider wants to lose business. I only started a few months ago. I have not had any truly bad experiences, and no bad interactions. Most providers would remember me (I am distinctive in appearance), and I would think positively.
The talent at that sight was. Interesting and I want to learn more. Thanks for sharing.While BP providers don't usually screen, most other escorts and all the Korean agencies require references or some type of screening. Yes, that does require that you provide the contact info for at least two providers that you have seen in the past that have websites. To get references, you get to find escorts who are more accomodating to those without references. Usually it does require some type of work information or you may find an escorts who will give you a break and see you and just do some type of assessment when she meets you. Often I can get by with just one recent reference or I just give up my work info which a lot of guys don't like to do. There are also screening websites where you pay a fee for the website to establish that you are legit. Providers who require references usually are good in responding to reference request because it is common courtesy and that is how the game is played. You can give a heads up to your references to let them know that you are using them as references.
Happy Guy 2
06-21-16, 23:58
Had a nice dream with a nice petite Asian girl, Joyce. It seems she is reviewed here as an escort and on the Backpage reviews so I will post this on both.
For me she was perfect. Several reviews said she was funny about cleanliness and did a sniff test among other things. I actually liked her concern for herself and for others. SAFE is my motto, otherwise for me it is not worth the risk.
First, she is cute as a button, smooth tight skin, tight squeezable bun, nice breasts and a wonderful magnetic smile. She likes what she does and it shows. No real drama or bad habits. She does not like CIM and if asked, "what do you like best and that turns you on. ?" She sais "To Fuck".
She visits town each month for 2-3 weeks around the and. VA area, and has for a while. I think she must have a bunch of regulars, because she is worth it. She is friendly, GFE to me and as I said, a killer smile. I am not a Wham Bam type of guy, sort of a romantic that likes and respects women and she provided a nice girl friend type of cuddling with enjoyable sexplay for an hour at 1. 6.
Definite repeat for me. She is safe and professional without drama, my type and cute as a button. I liked and respected her. Great attitude. Lovely date. Treat her very nice. A jewel.
Happy Guy 2.
This is just a story from my recent trip to a southern state where I had to attend to a serious issue of a family member (I won't bother the forum with the details but it was an aortic valve replacement and a life and death situation to someone very dear to me) While I was there I decided that with quite a bit of downtime in the evenings I should put my time and $$ to good use. Anyway it was an area where a quick perusal of the local landscape (boards / CL / BP etc) just did not give me much hope so I went through the USASG posts and picked the senior member with the highest number of posts and read through them and determined that he kind of had his hand on the pulse of the talent in the area. Well; he gave me 3 options (2 of which were outcall) and gave me info on them that I could check and contact info. Well this is the one I contacted and she drove over an hour to provide me with over an hour of full GFE and I mean full with all of the passion that you wish you could come to expect. I have digits for her and she texts me once and a while just to say hi (that's the benefit of over-tipping) and since I have a continuous future need to check up on the family member (the procedure was a success) I will be seeing this little gem every time I go down. So the moral of my story is that you just can't take Senior Members for granted. Ours included; they really can steer you in the right direction. I am also pretty sure this SM backchecked my post cred so I guess I passed. Just a story but if any SM's travel deep south and would like the 411 PM me Oh and the 2nd option was also a very good one but I never got around to her but I just may the next time I go down as she was one of these girls that had transitioned from really hot to ssbbw but had a nice rack and blonde hair which I am fond of and was kind of desperate for cash (single mom) - Like I said. Just a story to let our True Senior Members that they are valued. You guys know who you are.
I usually have my fun in the Centreville, Chantilly, West Fairfax areas. But I will be in Springfield area later this week and interested in a friendly younger Asian to meet in a safe area. PM me if you prefer. Appreciate anyone's help.
EasyEmail786
06-28-16, 08:08
You are right, I have been a memeber for so long but do not share as much as I listen. I will post more from now on.
This is just a story from my recent trip to a southern state where I had to attend to a serious issue of a family member (I won't bother the forum with the details but it was an aortic valve replacement and a life and death situation to someone very dear to me) While I was there I decided that with quite a bit of downtime in the evenings I should put my time and $$ to good use. Anyway it was an area where a quick perusal of the local landscape (boards / CL / BP etc) just did not give me much hope so I went through the USASG posts and picked the senior member with the highest number of posts and read through them and determined that he kind of had his hand on the pulse of the talent in the area. Well; he gave me 3 options (2 of which were outcall) and gave me info on them that I could check and contact info. Well this is the one I contacted and she drove over an hour to provide me with over an hour of full GFE and I mean full with all of the passion that you wish you could come to expect. I have digits for her and she texts me once and a while just to say hi (that's the benefit of over-tipping) and since I have a continuous future need to check up on the family member (the procedure was a success) I will be seeing this little gem every time I go down. So the moral of my story is that you just can't take Senior Members for granted. Ours included; they really can steer you in the right direction. I am also pretty sure this SM backchecked my post cred so I guess I passed. Just a story but if any SM's travel deep south and would like the 411 PM me Oh and the 2nd option was also a very good one but I never got around to her but I just may the next time I go down as she was one of these girls that had transitioned from really hot to ssbbw but had a nice rack and blonde hair which I am fond of and was kind of desperate for cash (single mom) - Like I said. Just a story to let our True Senior Members that they are valued. You guys know who you are.
EasyEmail786
06-28-16, 08:11
Yes I have seeing this agency girls for a whike now, very pro and satisfying.
I have also seen a number of ladies at this agency and I have been highly satisfied. Very reliable well run agency. I find the Korean agencies to be a big step up from the AMPs but screening is required. Once you are screened, it is simple to make an appointment with call or text and time and choice of lady. The other Korean agencies in town also have good reputations but sometimes screening takes a while.
Cowboy Wilson
06-28-16, 22:44
This is just a story from my recent trip to a southern state where I had to attend to a serious issue of a family member (I won't bother the forum with the details but it was an aortic valve replacement and a life and death situation to someone very dear to me) While I was there I decided that with quite a bit of downtime in the evenings I should put my time and $$ to good use. Anyway it was an area where a quick perusal of the local landscape (boards / CL / BP etc) just did not give me much hope so I went through the USASG posts and picked the senior member with the highest number of posts and read through them and determined that he kind of had his hand on the pulse of the talent in the area. Well; he gave me 3 options (2 of which were outcall) and gave me info on them that I could check and contact info. Well this is the one I contacted and she drove over an hour to provide me with over an hour of full GFE and I mean full with all of the passion that you wish you could come to expect. I have digits for her and she texts me once and a while just to say hi (that's the benefit of over-tipping) and since I have a continuous future need to check up on the family member (the procedure was a success) I will be seeing this little gem every time I go down. So the moral of my story is that you just can't take Senior Members for granted. Ours included; they really can steer you in the right direction. I am also pretty sure this SM backchecked my post cred so I guess I passed. Just a story but if any SM's travel deep south and would like the 411 PM me Oh and the 2nd option was also a very good one but I never got around to her but I just may the next time I go down as she was one of these girls that had transitioned from really hot to ssbbw but had a nice rack and blonde hair which I am fond of and was kind of desperate for cash (single mom) - Like I said. Just a story to let our True Senior Members that they are valued. You guys know who you are.She's hot, how far south?
While BP providers don't usually screen, most other escorts and all the Korean agencies require references or some type of screening. Yes, that does require that you provide the contact info for at least two providers that you have seen in the past that have websites. To get references, you get to find escorts who are more accomodating to those without references. Usually it does require some type of work information or you may find an escorts who will give you a break and see you and just do some type of assessment when she meets you. Often I can get by with just one recent reference or I just give up my work info which a lot of guys don't like to do. There are also screening websites where you pay a fee for the website to establish that you are legit. Providers who require references usually are good in responding to reference request because it is common courtesy and that is how the game is played. You can give a heads up to your references to let them know that you are using them as references.Yeah I've been a lurker for several years now (and mostly stick with Greenbelt, MD).
So far, I could only really say I have one reference. Someone I've seen twice, and gave me a word to use haha.
After reading the agency review (Butterfly Legend) below, I'd like to try them, but the three references is tough for me. That's what they are requesting on the website.
I'd have no problem paying for a more consistent experience then with AMPs.
Yeah I've been a lurker for several years now (and mostly stick with Greenbelt, MD).
So far, I could only really say I have one reference. Someone I've seen twice, and gave me a word to use haha.
After reading the agency review (Butterfly Legend) below, I'd like to try them, but the three references is tough for me. That's what they are requesting on the website.
I'd have no problem paying for a more consistent experience then with AMPs.Hey so good way to do it is to look through TER and find a provider that is newbie friendly and willing to verify through work or something else like that then eventually find a agency that does the same. This way you start building up some references to move on to stricter agencies.
It might take some time and $ but just choose providers with a website already established, makes them look more credible than just another BP girl with a number.
Goodluck.
Hey so good way to do it is to look through TER and find a provider that is newbie friendly and willing to verify through work or something else like that then eventually find a agency that does the same. This way you start building up some references to move on to stricter agencies.
It might take some time and $ but just choose providers with a website already established, makes them look more credible than just another BP girl with a number.
Goodluck.Yeah that makes sense.
The reference I have has a website (and she let me see her without references, but had her own verification procedure).
Moreover I gave a good first impression, so I think that helps haha.
But as you said, that's only one, so looks like I should add two more to at least start on better footing.
HavingFun6931
07-10-16, 22:41
Had a nice dream with a nice petite Asian girl, Joyce. It seems she is reviewed here as an escort and on the Backpage reviews so I will post this on both.
For me she was perfect. Several reviews said she was funny about cleanliness and did a sniff test among other things. I actually liked her concern for herself and for others. SAFE is my motto, otherwise for me it is not worth the risk.
First, she is cute as a button, smooth tight skin, tight squeezable bun, nice breasts and a wonderful magnetic smile. She likes what she does and it shows. No real drama or bad habits. She does not like CIM and if asked, "what do you like best and that turns you on. ?" She sais "To Fuck".
She visits town each month for 2-3 weeks around the and. VA area, and has for a while. I think she must have a bunch of regulars, because she is worth it. She is friendly, GFE to me and as I said, a killer smile. I am not a Wham Bam type of guy, sort of a romantic that likes and respects women and she provided a nice girl friend type of cuddling with enjoyable sexplay for an hour at 1. 6.
Definite repeat for me. She is safe and professional without drama, my type and cute as a button. I liked and respected her. Great attitude. Lovely date. Treat her very nice. A jewel.
Happy Guy 2.Thank you for this review. I've dreamt about her twice and would like to echo your assessment of her. Yes the sniff test is odd but it's very quick and best for her and us to be safe and sure. Once she gets past that, she is a lot of fun. I was lucky enough to dream about doing CIM with her, the first time I saw her. She was okay with it. Second time not. She is very much a bargain for what she charges. Cute as a button for sure, she likes what she does. No drama or bad habits. I've dreamt that she likes to fuck. And in this dream she very much does. I'd second the recommendation to see her and will be seeing her again in the future when I can.
HavingFun6931
07-10-16, 22:54
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Member #5074
07-11-16, 06:30
Thank you for this review. I've dreamt about her twice and would like to echo your assessment of her. Yes the sniff test is odd but it's very quick and best for her and us to be safe and sure. Once she gets past that, she is a lot of fun. I was lucky enough to dream about doing CIM with her, the first time I saw her. She was okay with it. Second time not. She is very much a bargain for what she charges. Cute as a button for sure, she likes what she does. No drama or bad habits. I've dreamt that she likes to fuck. And in this dream she very much does. I'd second the recommendation to see her and will be seeing her again in the future when I can.I have been wanting to see Joyce for awhile. I will be in the DC area today if anyone is willing to share info on her please PM me.
I have been wanting to see Joyce for awhile. I will be in the DC area today if anyone is willing to share info on her please PM me.When she visits she mostly stays in the Chantilly area and posts an ad on BP with her real pic and the ad usually includes the phrase "Friendly Asian. ".
Black Coffee
07-11-16, 19:45
When she visits she mostly stays in the Chantilly area and posts an ad on BP with her real pic and the ad usually includes the phrase "Friendly Asian. ".My side business is experiencing it's usual spring slowdown so I was unable to partake on her last tour. I texted her a couple days ago and she said she wouldn't be back for a couple months. She also added that this past tour was slow as she only saw 2-3 clients a day and hotel rates were going up for the summer. That's unfortunate as she is a true gem and one of the few whom you hope everything works out well for her going forward.
I am unsure if this is a Backpage or Escort post, but the similarities in these posts on backpage makes me wonder about them. Are these possible escorts, or a bait'and switch shop?
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/japane-model-new-arriving-young-incalls-22/24048702
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-lady-special-service-new-arrived-today/18377603
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-sweetie-never-been-here-before-hornyandsubmissive-angel-face202-766-2611/21250136
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cum-warm-up-incall-and-outcallopen-mind-gorgeous-asian/24034663
I have enjoyed the AMP scene but have a growing appetite, and no established referrals.
Second part. Is the "Preferred 411" referral site actually used by escort services? Or just a $$ setup?
I am unsure if this is a Backpage or Escort post, but the similarities in these posts on backpage makes me wonder about them. Are these possible escorts, or a bait'and switch shop?
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/japane-model-new-arriving-young-incalls-22/24048702
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-lady-special-service-new-arrived-today/18377603
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-sweetie-never-been-here-before-hornyandsubmissive-angel-face202-766-2611/21250136
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cum-warm-up-incall-and-outcallopen-mind-gorgeous-asian/24034663
I have enjoyed the AMP scene but have a growing appetite, and no established referrals.
Second part. Is the "Preferred 411" referral site actually used by escort services? Or just a $$ setup?Do a forum search using that keyword and you'll find out what you need to know.
On P411, some providers and agencies use it for verification purposes but it's not something you absolutely need to enjoy the hobby. Plenty of non-P411 fish in the sea.
And, as far as referrals are concerned, for every provider who requires references there are 2 or 3 (or more) who don't. Whenever I encounter a provider who want me to jump through hoops before she'll agree to see me, I move on. Some reasonable screening if fine but some of these girls go to incredible extremes. I have no problem with their wanting to stay safe but the only way to do that 100% is to get out of the biz. They want all your personal info (name, job, email, phone, etc.) and you know zip about them. Not happening, at least not for this monger. Again, plenty of fish in the sea.
It's always good to remember that, at its most basic, we're playing in a commodity market. Money and pussy are the commodities being exchanged, with bid and ask prices fluctuating depending on market conditions. Both sides are free to pick and choose what works for them. If you don't like the terms of a particular deal, move on and find a better one.
I am unsure if this is a Backpage or Escort post, but the similarities in these posts on backpage makes me wonder about them. Are these possible escorts, or a bait'and switch shop?
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/japane-model-new-arriving-young-incalls-22/24048702
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-lady-special-service-new-arrived-today/18377603
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-sweetie-never-been-here-before-hornyandsubmissive-angel-face202-766-2611/21250136
Or.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/cum-warm-up-incall-and-outcallopen-mind-gorgeous-asian/24034663
I have enjoyed the AMP scene but have a growing appetite, and no established referrals.
Second part. Is the "Preferred 411" referral site actually used by escort services? Or just a $$ setup?Hey so mostly 99% of the time the asian post on BP are either scams or bait and switch. If you really looking for an asian girl then get on TER and search them up. All have reviews and you could probably find a girl that doesn't expect references.
Probably avoid the K-girl agencies since they all require references for verification. But there are others agencies that don't. If you need more help then pm me.
Visited with Juliana through an agency I have used before. As always a beautiful tight bodied girl provided excellent services. What a crop of friendly beauties they have. PM if needed but just go visit. Pictures are an exact representation of who opened the door. Private extremely discreet upscale location.
I'd 305727.
http://notangels.companwhy / modelsdetalles. Php? Cod_modelo=41.
[URL][http://lindoll888.******.com/URL]
The board doesn't let me link. I can't figure it out. But google
Search her email to find her page. Lindoll888@gmail
I was thinking about booking time with this girl after finding her online under reviews on Ter, but something doesn't feel right to me. She doesn't promote at all. She has is this ****** page. She has reviews, but even reading them I feel like something isnt adding up. For example the 6 mongers that reviewed her all over the USA, not one monger is a local guy that not traveling all over.
I worry that LEO puts up fake reviews in other markets to set up mongers around the USA.
Hoping for Advice or if I'm worrying too much or if any of you guys have seen her.
Thanks.
http://lindoll888.******.com
[URL][http://lindoll888.******.com/URL]
The board doesn't let me link. I can't figure it out. But google
Search her email to find her page. Lindoll888@gmail
I was thinking about booking time with this girl after finding her online under reviews on Ter, but something doesn't feel right to me. She doesn't promote at all. She has is this ****** page. She has reviews, but even reading them I feel like something isnt adding up. For example the 6 mongers that reviewed her all over the USA, not one monger is a local guy that not traveling all over.
I worry that LEO puts up fake reviews in other markets to set up mongers around the USA.
Hoping for Advice or if I'm worrying too much or if any of you guys have seen her.
Thanks.
http://lindoll888.******.comI found her a week ago and have been wondering the same thing. The site she uses is an odd choice and her reviews just struck me as strange. I've also wondered if LEO posts fake reviews, curious to hear others opinion on this.
However she's definitely on the expensive end so it seems like a weird strategy for LEO as most mongers will be turned off by the price alone. Further to my knowledge she doesn't advertise on BP or CL.
I'm curious too as she looks hot as fuck.
I found her a week ago and have been wondering the same thing. The site she uses is an odd choice and her reviews just struck me as strange. I've also wondered if LEO posts fake reviews, curious to hear others opinion on this.
However she's definitely on the expensive end so it seems like a weird strategy for LEO as most mongers will be turned off by the price alone. Further to my knowledge she doesn't advertise on BP or CL.
I'm curious too as she looks hot as fuck.She's advertise zero so that's what really makes me think WTF. Also maybe the higher cost gets higher end clients! Especially if media is involved makes good story when they arrest lawyers or doctors.
I contacted her and she requires 3 references! Who ask for 3?
One more thing .. 3 of the mongers that review Lin also saw another suspicious provider Jane ter id 296106.. She has the same type of page
She's advertise zero so that's what really makes me think WTF. Also maybe the higher cost gets higher end clients! Especially if media is involved makes good story when they arrest lawyers or doctors.
I contacted her and she requires 3 references! Who ask for 3?
One more thing .. 3 of the mongers that review Lin also saw another suspicious provider Jane ter id 296106.. She has the same type of pageGood find with the other reviews. Most of the K agencies ask for 3 references so for me that's not a huge red flag.
Perhaps this is some type of bait and switch scam hence the fakeish seeming reviews and high price tag. I just can't imagine LEO going to this length when they could easily just post some shit on BP / CL and set up a typical sting, where they nap a whole bunch of people at once. Or just raid an AMP.
Regardless, I think we all can agree that something just isn't right and our guts are trying to tell us to stay away. Which is a good sign to stay away. Plenty of more fish in the sea.
Stay Safe!
Roamin Roman
08-25-16, 14:45
I contacted her and she requires 3 references! Who ask for 3?For me, if a provider requires references, that's basically a deal-breaker. It's a form of control that I'm just not willing to deal with. The sea is full of so many fish that do not have such requirements, and I'll cast my line in those waters. True, I might "miss out" on some extraordinary hottie, but the trade-off for me is worth it. But that's just my take on this.
For me, if a provider requires references, that's basically a deal-breaker. It's a form of control that I'm just not willing to deal with. The sea is full of so many fish that do not have such requirements, and I'll cast my line in those waters. True, I might "miss out" on some extraordinary hottie, but the trade-off for me is worth it. But that's just my take on this.100% correct. Who do those harlots think they are anyways, Moodys, Standard and Poors, Experian, or Equifax. NOT.
Too many fish that need bait to even think about this.
PC out.
Both of you guys are right! Most providers or agencies don't really have interested to be a reference because what's in it for them! Like oh great this guy wants to spend money with someone else. I found for me several times a provider email asking for a reference never answers back. Also a Nasty provider can blacklist you because she didn't appreciate not getting a tip. For example her rate of 300 per hour and you leave no top they get offended and will talk shit about you.
If your rate is 300 then that's all I'm giving. If you expect more raise your fee to what you're happy with.
Also the more I dig on this girl I think it's a bait and switch.
100% correct. Who do those harlots think they are anyways, Moodys, Standard and Poors, Experian, or Equifax. NOT.
Too many fish that need bait to even think about this.
PC out.
Harley Dude 29
08-25-16, 15:58
I agree, why waste time of two days waiting on a reference callback coming from ladies that don't know your real name trying to get a reference. If I am traveling and looking for fun, I don't have time to wait until someone calls back. You have to wonder how well this works. I can say that I have rolled the dice before and called and never got asked for a reference, so in some cases I think it is to screen out rift raft and when you sound ok on the phone and can put a sentence together then the reference thing goes out the window.
I took a chance and saw her, but before out meeting I staked out the hotel like I was freaking LEO. I even had donuts and waited 2 hours for her to show and watch the hotel.
I watched her arrive via uber and I knew she was real. However not that hot and a complete waste of money. Worse buyers remorse in some time. Not sexy as you would think from her pics, Also her attitude is very stuck up. For the money it's too much.
Her English was alright, but hard to talk with her too much. Never could click with her.
I took a chance and saw her, but before out meeting I staked out the hotel like I was freaking LEO. I even had donuts and waited 2 hours for her to show and watch the hotel.
I watched her arrive via uber and I knew she was real. However not that hot and a complete waste of money. Worse buyers remorse in some time. Not sexy as you would think from her pics, Also her attitude is very stuck up. For the money it's too much.
Her English was alright, but hard to talk with her too much. Never could click with her.Where does she advertise and what was the damage?
I took a chance and saw her, but before out meeting I staked out the hotel like I was freaking LEO. I even had donuts and waited 2 hours for her to show and watch the hotel.
I watched her arrive via uber and I knew she was real. However not that hot and a complete waste of money. Worse buyers remorse in some time. Not sexy as you would think from her pics, Also her attitude is very stuck up. For the money it's too much.
Her English was alright, but hard to talk with her too much. Never could click with her.Wow I commend your bravery and willingness to just go for it. So no scam? Just a girl who overcharged and falsely advertised in a strange way?
Damage was 5 bills and so not worth it. She's very stuck up.
Where does she advertise and what was the damage?
Bunker Buster
08-30-16, 18:37
I agree, why waste time of two days waiting on a reference callback coming from ladies that don't know your real name trying to get a reference. If I am traveling and looking for fun, I don't have time to wait until someone calls back. You have to wonder how well this works. I can say that I have rolled the dice before and called and never got asked for a reference, so in some cases I think it is to screen out rift raft and when you sound ok on the phone and can put a sentence together then the reference thing goes out the window.Girls I've seen will ask for references from guys who sound questionable on the phone. It's a good way to give them a brush-off without them coming back to harass or threaten the girls.
Hey Mongers. I'm having a tough time finding a thin gal with D or better while here in Arlington. I'd appreciate any PM with recommendations. Thanks!
* NOTE * Pictures are actually real, to my surprise.
Date: Sept, 16,2016.
Provider: Celine.
Contact: http://www.lotusflowerz.com/.
Location: Fairfax, VA.
Services: Non-GFE full service, convo (English just so so), CBJ, Shower, massage.
Length: 45 minutes.
Damage: 1. 6 + extra.
Description: Asian, black hair, brown eyes tiny lady. Pictures are real, or at least I can not notice the difference.
Details: Great experience. She open the door in a nice black short dress. Very friendly and playful. Drop the donation, take a shower. Comeback with lots of full body kissing and CBJ. We try a few position. Greek available for extra (YMMV). Nothing uncovered.
Would recommend. The only inconvenience is location. If you do not know the area, getting to the parking lot may be challenging.
* NOTE * Pictures are actually real, to my surprise.
Date: Sept, 16,2016.
Provider: Celine.
Contact: http://www.lotusflowerz.com/.
Location: Fairfax, VA.
Services: Non-GFE full service, convo (English just so so), CBJ, Shower, massage.
Length: 45 minutes.
Damage: 1. 6 + extra.
Description: Asian, black hair, brown eyes tiny lady. Pictures are real, or at least I can not notice the difference.
Details: Great experience. She open the door in a nice black short dress. Very friendly and playful. Drop the donation, take a shower. Comeback with lots of full body kissing and CBJ. We try a few position. Greek available for extra (YMMV). Nothing uncovered.
Would recommend. The only inconvenience is location. If you do not know the area, getting to the parking lot may be challenging.Been there a few times, never seen any girls with real pics but, always good looking. If you go for the hr + GFE is part of it and BBBJ is on the table. Besides that, everything is the same in my experience there.
* NOTE * Pictures are actually real, to my surprise.
Date: Sept, 16,2016.
Provider: Celine.
Contact: http://www.lotusflowerz.com/.
Location: Fairfax, VA.
Services: Non-GFE full service, convo (English just so so), CBJ, Shower, massage.
Length: 45 minutes.
Damage: 1. 6 + extra.
Description: Asian, black hair, brown eyes tiny lady. Pictures are real, or at least I can not notice the difference.
Details: Great experience. She open the door in a nice black short dress. Very friendly and playful. Drop the donation, take a shower. Comeback with lots of full body kissing and CBJ. We try a few position. Greek available for extra (YMMV). Nothing uncovered.
Would recommend. The only inconvenience is location. If you do not know the area, getting to the parking lot may be challenging.Made my first appt with Lotusflowerz today after seeing this review and other positive reviews on the other site. Much of the description above matches my experience, except she was very shy and never really became playful and sensual in my opinion. She is cute with a pretty smile, a nice girl. The highlight for me was several minutes of BBBJ, but once the cover went on, the experience went down hill and she had to finish me with HJ. The other sight says she was a B cup which would be fine, but she was basically flat with nice nipples, but no breasts, really. Still, that is not a problem for me if she is sensual. Anyway, maybe just too much of an age difference for her, but it shouldn't be in that business.
I might give them another try, with a different provider.
Been there a few times, never seen any girls with real pics but, always good looking. If you go for the hr + GFE is part of it and BBBJ is on the table. Besides that, everything is the same in my experience there.I'll give the GFE a shot soon. For my 1st time, I try not to get over commit, and walk out as soon as I see something wrong. But, so far, they seem to be decent.
If only they speak more English.
I'll give the GFE a shot soon. For my 1st time, I try not to get over commit, and walk out as soon as I see something wrong. But, so far, they seem to be decent.
If only they speak more English.They rotate a lot, a few had really solid English a few I struggled to communicate anything.
I decided to try going upscale with one of the K-Girl agencies. No regrets. May do again. My experience was a win on bangs for bucks scale.
Screening was a bit of a challenge, but the references and actual info was not as invasive as feared. After an hour or so of emails, I set an appointment.
Nice location, good parking, good contact at site to get apartment #.
Not actual girl, but darned close to it. Great experience overall. BBBJ, shower, more BBBJ and fun. Recover with a three course meal at the why, then a prolonged session exploring ways to bump uglies. Loved her variety, willing to try positions, and (my) unexpected endurance, probably from the hat. Wonderful girl.
Likely to visit Yuri again. Tasty treat.
I decided to try going upscale with one of the K-Girl agencies.
. . .
Not actual girl, but darned close to it.
. . .
Likely to visit Yuri again. Tasty treat.Crankcase,
Thanks for the review. Can you provide a link or digits please?
The title and details in your post are confusing. I've used Not Angels several time and wouldn't refer to them as a K-girl agency (mostly latina's actually, with one K-girl headliner: Lee). The girls I've seen there matched their pics. And I don't see Yuri listed as one of their models. But then again they had an early history of placing BP ads on girls with random phone numbers that led to the same old call-in.
So any clarifying details would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hello,
This is my first post. I apologize upfront to the moderators if this is not the correct forum to post in.
I have been lurking on this forum and I should thank the many contributors for their tips and reports. I am in need of some feedback or advice for a situation that happened last night.
I called a provider late last night for a session. We agreed on a time. She told me to arrive at a landmark and call. I called; then she told me to come to an address and call again. I called; she then told arrive at the nth floor of a hotel and then call. This part was a little weird because in the past, they usually give the room#. At that point, I thought it didn't seem 'right' and something was 'off' (I don't pursue this hobby very often so not experienced for all situations) so I dashed out. I texted her back that I was cancelling and apologized.
Her response was that she will block and report me. Now, I was using a Burner number, but from what I gather, burner numbers are not 100% private. So my questions to you guys are. If she does report my burner number, what are the consequences? Could there be a subpoena that can expose my calling history via Burner and trace to an escort's number. As well as my real number? Could my real number be blocked by all the carriers? I understand that if she does report, she is also exposing herself.
As I mentioned earlier, I don't pursue this hobby very often, so am a little paranoid. Any feedback / advice would help. Thanks!
HardanFast
10-23-16, 15:43
Hi Yoyo,
What you say about the pictures and the lineup definitely matches my experience after being there a few times. Most definitely they remain mostly latina. I can vouch for crankcase, though, that Yuri was there for a couple of weeks and just disappeared off their site a couple of days ago. I was actually thinking about seeing her myself. One thing that did catch my eye, though, was that there was a girl at the same time advertising on BP using the name Sunni or Sunny that said she was a friend of Lee's in the ad and looked an awful lot like the same pictures that Yuri was using.
Not sure is this helps or not, but I thought I would toss it out there anyway-.
Crankcase,
Thanks for the review. Can you provide a link or digits please?
The title and details in your post are confusing. I've used Not Angels several time and wouldn't refer to them as a K-girl agency (mostly latina's actually, with one K-girl headliner: Lee). The girls I've seen there matched their pics. And I don't see Yuri listed as one of their models. But then again they had an early history of placing BP ads on girls with random phone numbers that led to the same old call-in.
So any clarifying details would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hey guys so milena is a latina and she works for NOT ANGELS agency. Saw her last week and I usually frequent this agency a lot and usually good. With milena though it was alright.
http://notangels.companwhy / modelsdetalles. Php? Cod_modelo=47 (if you want to see her).
So easy to see since a prior so fast apointment. I got to the apartment then got another email telling me the room number. Pretty standard for this agency. When the fun started it was alright nice BBBJ which could use more DT or BLS. Then some mish and K9 eventually wanted to pop but she doesn't do CIM or COF so kept pounding until popped in cover. After she gave a another masssage then Back to BBBJ with HJ to let me finish on her chest.
Over all not a bad experience but definitely could be better. She nice GFE girl who talks. But she talks mostly in spanish so sorry guys don't know how well her english is.
I recommend if you want someone to talk to and be all girlfriend like but if your like me and want more pse action then you shouldn't go to her.
Happy hunting!
-Sjoh.
Bunker Buster
10-24-16, 16:15
Hello,
This is my first post. I apologize upfront to the moderators if this is not the correct forum to post in.
I have been lurking on this forum and I should thank the many contributors for their tips and reports. I am in need of some feedback or advice for a situation that happened last night.
I called a provider late last night for a session. We agreed on a time. She told me to arrive at a landmark and call. I called; then she told me to come to an address and call again. I called; she then told arrive at the nth floor of a hotel and then call. This part was a little weird because in the past, they usually give the room#. At that point, I thought it didn't seem 'right' and something was 'off' (I don't pursue this hobby very often so not experienced for all situations) so I dashed out. I texted her back that I was cancelling and apologized.
Her response was that she will block and report me. Now, I was using a Burner number, but from what I gather, burner numbers are not 100% private. So my questions to you guys are. If she does report my burner number, what are the consequences? Could there be a subpoena that can expose my calling history via Burner and trace to an escort's number. As well as my real number? Could my real number be blocked by all the carriers? I understand that if she does report, she is also exposing herself.
As I mentioned earlier, I don't pursue this hobby very often, so am a little paranoid. Any feedback / advice would help. Thanks!Who do you think she's going to "report" you to? Do you think the authorities are going to issue a subpoena to your phone service for tracking info based on the report that you wasted an escort's time?
If you paid cash for the phone and the minutes, and registered it with an alias, the phone can't be traced to you personally. If the phone owner were a suspect in a murder or kidnapping, the authorities could trace the time and location where the phone and minutes were purchased and review security cameras to identify the buyer, and get GPS tracking info on where the phone is frequently located, then move in with a warrant. Are you expecting the authorities to devote a dozen hours and thousand of dollars of manpower to come after you?
Even if you're using Google Voice, which is more-easily connected to your personal info, who's going to bother pursuing it without a serious underlying crime?
The worst she can do is post your phone number on a bad-client board, which might lead other girls to not take your call. In all likelihood, you can ignore her threat and move on.
I can vouch for crankcase, though, that Yuri was there for a couple of weeks and just disappeared off their site a couple of days ago. I was actually thinking about seeing her myself. One thing that did catch my eye, though, was that there was a girl at the same time advertising on BP using the name Sunni or Sunny that said she was a friend of Lee's in the ad and looked an awful lot like the same pictures that Yuri was using.Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for her return. They do seem to rotate in and out.
Miketastic69
10-26-16, 13:21
Hello,
This is my first post. I apologize upfront to the moderators if this is not the correct forum to post in.
I have been lurking on this forum and I should thank the many contributors for their tips and reports. I am in need of some feedback or advice for a situation that happened last night.
I called a provider late last night for a session. We agreed on a time. She told me to arrive at a landmark and call. I called; then she told me to come to an address and call again. I called; she then told arrive at the nth floor of a hotel and then call. This part was a little weird because in the past, they usually give the room#. At that point, I thought it didn't seem 'right' and something was 'off' (I don't pursue this hobby very often so not experienced for all situations) so I dashed out. I texted her back that I was cancelling and apologized.
Her response was that she will block and report me. Now, I was using a Burner number, but from what I gather, burner numbers are not 100% private. So my questions to you guys are. If she does report my burner number, what are the consequences? Could there be a subpoena that can expose my calling history via Burner and trace to an escort's number. As well as my real number? Could my real number be blocked by all the carriers? I understand that if she does report, she is also exposing herself.
As I mentioned earlier, I don't pursue this hobby very often, so am a little paranoid. Any feedback / advice would help. Thanks!You're silly. The worse that can happen is she puts your number on a list for other providers to stay away from you. These girls use their instincts and cancel on us, so bully for you that you used your noodle and bolted out of a situation that could have gone bad. Two things I want to mention though:
If she is a known and reviewed provider she may have had you walk past the door so she could see you and check you out. It's too late for her once she answers the door, so she gave you the peephole treatment. And.
You can change the number in a burner phone. If providers stop answering because you might be on some list then change the number.
Greetings East Coasters!
I'll be coming to your fair state in a few weeks and am hoping to spend some time with a somewhat specific type of woman. I'll be staying at a very nice hotel and would like to schedule at least two hours of festivities. These forums have been helpful, but it seems that most are accessible through other sites, agencies, and the like. I'd love to continue to support the USASG community though and hope you can help me!
My preferences are: Dark or Red Hair (Longish), Curvy (Not BBW), Sultry, Well Fashioned and Professional. Age isn't an issue for me, but I'd prefer someone 25+. I suppose if you had to peg it as a specific type, I'd want to find a sultry, neglected mom. .
Feel free to PM or post ideas, links, and ways for me to search in your area of the country. Thanks in advance!
Greetings East Coasters!
I'll be coming to your fair state in a few weeks and am hoping to spend some time with a somewhat specific type of woman. I'll be staying at a very nice hotel and would like to schedule at least two hours of festivities. These forums have been helpful, but it seems that most are accessible through other sites, agencies, and the like. I'd love to continue to support the USASG community though and hope you can help me!
My preferences are: Dark or Red Hair (Longish), Curvy (Not BBW), Sultry, Well Fashioned and Professional. Age isn't an issue for me, but I'd prefer someone 25+. I suppose if you had to peg it as a specific type, I'd want to find a sultry, neglected mom. .
Feel free to PM or post ideas, links, and ways for me to search in your area of the country. Thanks in advance!Drop the $60, it is SO worth it.
Bunker Buster
11-03-16, 18:29
Drop the $60, it is SO worth it.It's OK to mention that you saw something good or bad "over ThERe" (or on "the oThER board") , but recommending paid membership looks like promotion, which is a no-no here.
OldPilot71
11-04-16, 09:07
Along with what Mike said, the experience of getting told to go to a certain floor but not getting the room # is not that uncommon on a first visit with a provider. I have had that happen many times.
You're silly. The worse that can happen is she puts your number on a list for other providers to stay away from you. These girls use their instincts and cancel on us, so bully for you that you used your noodle and bolted out of a situation that could have gone bad. Two things I want to mention though:
If she is a known and reviewed provider she may have had you walk past the door so she could see you and check you out. It's too late for her once she answers the door, so she gave you the peephole treatment. And.
You can change the number in a burner phone. If providers stop answering because you might be on some list then change the number.
It's OK to mention that you saw something good or bad "over ThERe" (or on "the oThER board") , but recommending paid membership looks like promotion, which is a no-no here.Yes, I agree. Is A2 lurking here in Virginia?
Thank you for the feedback and the information, given that two of you responded though and one of you has quite a few posts, I would love your feedback or recommendations here on our beloved site. Also, I am looking for above average dates, maybe even VIP level, but if there are local independents that are well thought of, I wouldn't argue against saving a few dollars. Thanks again!
In my godlike forum presence A2 is omnipresent.
Mentioning reviews over ThERe on the oThER board has always been ok.
A2
It's OK to mention that you saw something good or bad "over ThERe" (or on "the oThER board") , but recommending paid membership looks like promotion, which is a no-no here.Just trying to HBO. I like it because of the cartoons.
Randy Farang
11-13-16, 13:00
This is a request for some help. I am moving out to somewhat west of Manassas, and that is an area I am almost totally unfamiliar with. Advancing age, and the limitations of a fixed income, have significantly slowed my participation in the hobby, but I still get the itch and don't know the area well enough to find an appropriate scratching post. To me it is all virgin territory (pun intended.).
If anyone would be kind enough to share phone number and location intell on places for FS I would be obliged. I am partial to the ladies from Asia, but I'm open to all suggestions.
I feel like a newbie with a request like this, but my rather limited budget won't finance a lot of experimentation. If you could pm me you will earn my undying thanks.
As usual, I'm just plain Randy.
MrNiubility
11-13-16, 20:30
Greetings guys, I'm fairly new to the hobby and has learned so much about using TER and forum for resources, but like all other YMMV stuff, personal preference vasts so much that sometimes the reviews were not really reflecting what I was looking for. I've only seen three providers, all based on good reviews (overall in the 7/10 range tho), but two out of three were kinda of letdown. The most recent experience, I went to a traveling provider who happened to be in my area, TER has generally good reviews, but when she opened the door, at least 50 more lbs compared to the no-face pictures. I didn't want to be rude so I still got in the tried it, but felt like wasting my time and money, since that's not really below my expectation. But she did prepare for my arrival and etc, so what would be the best thing to do if I'm in the same scenario next time, turned away immediately? Pay some for the preparation and left? TIA.
Greetings guys, I'm fairly new to the hobby and has learned so much about using TER and forum for resources, but like all other YMMV stuff, personal preference vasts so much that sometimes the reviews were not really reflecting what I was looking for. I've only seen three providers, all based on good reviews (overall in the 7/10 range tho), but two out of three were kinda of letdown. The most recent experience, I went to a traveling provider who happened to be in my area, TER has generally good reviews, but when she opened the door, at least 50 more lbs compared to the no-face pictures. I didn't want to be rude so I still got in the tried it, but felt like wasting my time and money, since that's not really below my expectation. But she did prepare for my arrival and etc, so what would be the best thing to do if I'm in the same scenario next time, turned away immediately? Pay some for the preparation and left? TIA.Providers use lots of marketing techniques to persuade you to make that initial call and further persuade you to come out to see them. Probably the biggest complaint you'll read on this forum is the use of pics that are blatantly fake, old or otherwise misrepresent the provider's appearance.
Yeah, she prepared for your visit but had she used accurate pics you probably wouldn't have called her in the first place. No need to be rude about it but there's nothing wrong with saying that you had different expectations from what you saw in her ad. Also no need to feel obligated to give her any kind of "cancellation" fee because, again, you wouldn't have made the appt had she posted honest and accurate pics.
On a side note, these scenarios are why I'm not a fan of outcall. When the girl is at your door she can make a scene to put pressure on you to go through with the session or give her $ to shut up and go away. It makes a big difference when you're the one who can turn and walk away.
My go to provider for a full dream has evaporated. So time to venture out. Any experience with any of these?
This Riley seems to be relatively new. Few reviews.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-pics-in-only-gorgeous-cali-bombshell-ebony-mix-royal-is-what-you-get/25753907
✔Royal treatment-.
Riley 510-827-xxxx ASK ABOUT 2 GIRL SHOWS.
Poster's age: 25.
This Zienna is well reviewed.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/drenched-in-honey-big-full-lips-playful-energetic-companion/24650555
Zienna Brooks 💋 305762 xxxx (Fetishs - 2 girls) By Appointment.
Poster's age: 21.
• Location: Crystal city, Alexandria, DC in and out, Northern Virginia.
This one is Mocha Mellons based on phone search. Many reviews. MOST interesting.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-now-b-l-0-w-me-d0ll-face-yes-yes-its-really-me-babe/25588793
TheBarbarian
11-21-16, 20:17
She gets a bad rap by many and maybe for good reason, here's what I know:
1. Her prices are high in comparison for a non-GFE.
2. She looks really good naked.
I thought her was ok performance, but man does she have a body.
Pbarber307
12-01-16, 16:00
I finally had the time to meet our well-reviewed, quirky Chinese girl. I found her quite attractive. She has a nice full body with great natural tits. Cute beestung lips. Set up via text led me to an extended stay for an early morning visit. She met me at the door in her lingerie set, disrobed, squatted in front of the tub faucet and washed off her hairy little quim. Asked me to shower as well. After foreplay, got the obligatory sniff and spray. It's very subtle; she didn't sniff me all over like some bloodhound on the trail of a scent, like some reviews make it out to be. And she's not Toula's father with the windex bottle (My Big Fat Greek Wedding). Just a quick spritz and wipe down before BBBJ. Full round of positions and finished off with Russian, but I had to blow my wad on a tissue instead of on her tits. Was offered a shower before heading out. She had another client lined up. As I was dressing, she assumed the bathtub squat, washed up, then put on her lingerie set. For all her quirks, I noted that she didn't wipe down her tits for the next guy, especially after using them to nurse me and cradle my dick. Great girl, good connection, and great time. I will definitely see her again, but I'll be sure to have her take a full shower rather than the cursory squat.
BlueBomber1
12-02-16, 03:23
If a provider is misrepresenting, by all means call her out and leave. This is easy to do with incall. Not so with outcall. They definitely do not want to make a scene at their hotel room (well, most of them LOL). It is a business transaction after all. I've left a few times. Got harassed really bad by one provider (old lady posing as a hottie) and her "daddy" harassed the shit out of me thru about a million phone calls (just ignored them). She opened the door and I was like ahhh man, WTF! I'm out of here! Lmao. I do have a nice Mr. Colt 45 for home safety. So they can come knocking all they want.
When I started in the hobby, I'd usually see a hot chick in a pic on BP, decide to visit and then open a door to see 1-2 African American chicks trying to scam guys. If they were cute and I felt safe, I'd typically offer less $ and go from there. However, a lot of providers, do not post their real pics for LE protection or don't show their face. I'd suggest not to have any expectations when seeing a provider. You do need to find a few favs and stick with them. I've actually have become friends with a few providers (Zienna Brooks who is totally awesome and Kayana Kaye who's my favorite and takes me out for my birthday past few years.). Find the ones you connect with. A hottie with no connection can be a real snoozer. Watch out for scammers too. Some cuties have no problem flushing out your wallet. Keep your wits about ya LOL. Enjoy and be safe.
- Blue Bomber.
Greetings guys, I'm fairly new to the hobby and has learned so much about using TER and forum for resources, but like all other YMMV stuff, personal preference vasts so much that sometimes the reviews were not really reflecting what I was looking for. I've only seen three providers, all based on good reviews (overall in the 7/10 range tho), but two out of three were kinda of letdown. The most recent experience, I went to a traveling provider who happened to be in my area, TER has generally good reviews, but when she opened the door, at least 50 more lbs compared to the no-face pictures. I didn't want to be rude so I still got in the tried it, but felt like wasting my time and money, since that's not really below my expectation. But she did prepare for my arrival and etc, so what would be the best thing to do if I'm in the same scenario next time, turned away immediately? Pay some for the preparation and left? TIA.
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