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12-31-05, 23:00
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Big Daddy Don
12-31-06, 10:24
Personaly, I find that $160 is more than enough to pay for a FS "massage". The rent on a commercial space is far more than an appartment so an increase in price would definitly not be justified. If prices do start to rise, my visits will definitly decline.

As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?

The risk factor has gone up for the monger now. It seems the risk was always there for the providers. You didn't used to hear mongers listed in the raids like now. Perhaps a price cut or specials like the freebie card should come back to encourage business in light of the recent happenings.

I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.


If I found a local, regular Asian incall girl (preferably Korean, Japanese, or Chinese) that charged $160 to $200 a session, delivered a consistent GFE for the agreed to time, and worked out of a condo, I would become a regular for sure and I'm sure many other guys would, too.

Perhaps the extra $40 a visit might reduce the frequency of my visits somewhat, but it sure beats getting written up in the local papers as being charged with frequenting a bawdy house!

I wasn't overly impressed with the McLean Chinese Condo, either. I felt that I was shortchanged on time when I visited. The girl was OK, but her hair reeked of nicotine.

Virile Vito
12-31-06, 13:41
So while I have heard of Korean ladies in California who go independent, I don't think it is very common in the rest of the country and I think that when they do, they do it alone.

LexLutherThese days, Apartment AMPs (AAMPs) are pretty much the standard mode of operation for Korean providers in Northern California. I agree that it is rarely found elsewhere amongst Koreans (although, as you mentioned, there are more than a few Chinese apartment set-ups on the East Coast).

Although it was not the start of AAMPs, the massive West Coast Fed/ICE raids of July 2005 and the subsequent closure of dozens of San Francisco MPs led directly to the current AAMP boom in the SF Bay area. Thus, it might not be out of question for a similar change in climate in Northern VA and DC to lead to a similar change in MP MO.

Some of the SF Bay AAMPs are one-girl, independent places, but the better, larger spots usually feature 2-3 girls. Pricing is remarkably standardized.

Vito

Jericoholic
12-31-06, 15:23
I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.While I have no doubt the house makes a good profit, I decided to try to calculate just how much money a girl makes per hour.

From my conversation with these girls, $15000 in one month is a good haul. Based on normal spa hours of 10AM - 2PM and 30 days a month, that's 16 hours a day or 480 hours a month. That means essentially they're making $31.25 an hour or about the equivalent of a $65000 salary.

If we were to claim that their job is actually a 24/7 job (since they have to stay couped up in their little places), their hourly pay would actually be less than $21 and be the equivalent of $45000.

I think these numbers chip away at the myth that these girls live some sort of luxurious lifestyle. The only reason they may seem "wealthier" than you and I is two-fold: 1) They work hard. 2) They play hard.

Not only do they have to stay couped in some dark, danky place 24/7, but they're also sacrificing their bodies and youth. And yes, even those "nasty" 50-year old past-their-prime spa girls are sacrificing something physically, though it may not be considered as "precious" as a young, virgin womanhood.

I am no white knight, but I am a human being which is why I shake my head when I read the occasional post about some guy deciding not to leave tip, or leaving less than the standard amount due to "poor service". If you did the deed, just pay the damn $100 and don't come back. You're the same fuckface who eats the entire steak at a restaurant before complaining to the waiter it was undercooked and demanding it be on the house while making an obnoxious scene and making it awkward for the rest of the diners.

By the way, none of this was directed at you, Big Daddy Don. Your post just made me think a little.

Rejected Monke
12-31-06, 15:33
Personaly, I find that $160 is more than enough to pay for a FS "massage". The rent on a commercial space is far more than an appartment so an increase in price would definitly not be justified. If prices do start to rise, my visits will definitly decline.

As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?

The risk factor has gone up for the monger now. It seems the risk was always there for the providers. You didn't used to hear mongers listed in the raids like now. Perhaps a price cut or specials like the freebie card should come back to encourage business in light of the recent happenings.

I believe the house makes a good profit with $60 from each customer and the girls do very well for themselves at $100 each. I should hope that no one is going to accept a price increase.Commercial space costs more, but not that much more. A single girl working out of an apartment (or hotel) would definitely warrant a higher fee, unless you'd like to propose that four girls work in one apartment bringing in an obvious stream of strange gentlemen at all hours of the day.

Also, while I always appreciate a good bargain hunter, I don't think making a price cut or freebie card would make them money. I know various establishments have had VIP cards in the past, but I bet they actually lost money on those. As it stands, they have the same amount of customers with or without VIP cards.

Jet Ranger
12-31-06, 19:03
As for not being written up in the local papers for visiting a "bawdy house", do you not think the same charge would apply if an LE sting hit an appartment as opposed to a storefront?Yes, some of the local hotel-based incall escort services have been hit with LE stings and shut down. Condos, as private residences, are probably harder for LE to get warrants for unless someone specifically complains about one to LE. Who is to say that you're specifically paying for sex? Unlike a place of business in a storefront, people can legally have consensual sex in residential buildings.

For example, when I visit one, I step inside, give the girl an envelope with the specified donation inside, and don't discuss any money for a specific act, sexual or otherwise. We just get down to fun and what transpires is a private manner between two consenting adults. Like in a storefront or business park AMP, if undercover LE comes in and starts to negotiate a specific price for a specific act, any smart girl will get nervous and not offer FS or other sexual services. If you read the massage ordnances I posted, residential massages are only allowed theoretically in the premises of the client.

I agree with Virile Vito. Many trends originate in California and I believe we will see more Korean girls starting AAMPs. Advertising will need to be very discreet, and like most of the Latino MPs that don't advertise openly and fly under the radar, they can stay open longer without LE or health department harassment.

Finally, this is not a hobby for the poor. Yes, $160 is a lot--it is less in some places, more in others, but most of the girls that get into this line of work know what they are getting into before they start, but are doing so to pay off debts they have incurred, earn money to care for their families, and sometimes support their extravagant lifestyle and spending habits.

The girls are always at risk and I always do my utmost to treat them kindly and with respect, especially those that are friendly and provide a GFE. I have become friends with several providers and they sacrifice a lot as Jeriholic described for what they earn.

My ATF spa girl (and a real friend who called me nearly every day) who previously worked at Downtown, Happiness, and Sun in DC; Philly; Waterbury, CT; and HWC among other places was presumably arrested on Black Wednesday at a suburban Pennsylvania AMP where she was working and I haven't heard from her since then. I can't imagine what she has been going through and two of her former co-workers I talked to about her at HWC are terrified at what may have happened to her. They know the same fate may be waiting for them.

Mong678
01-01-07, 08:28
I have one comment and one question/report.

First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.

Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.

Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.

Pcpc1688
01-01-07, 11:28
Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?

Any intel would be nice, pls PM me

PC out

Saiyen
01-01-07, 16:01
http://www.secrettemptation.com/Beauties.html

I personally have not used there service but to me when I searched through TER it seemed like its a FBSM only. Happy hunting.


Any of you boys tried this one out in Tysons area? They are on TER but say they are just private modeling? WTF? Private modeling?

Any intel would be nice, pls PM me

PC out

Drew Park
01-01-07, 17:25
My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on?

Now think about it for a minute. Is it appropriate to hear howls of feminine passion echoing from behind closed doors of a massage therapy establishment? It is not like she is in your home and in your bedroom where you both can howl like a couple of monkeys in heat.

It is a place of business.

And have some consideration for other patrons in the adjoining rooms. It would be embarrassing to have to listen to the "oooohs and ahhhhhs..." of your orgasmic friend. After all they came for a massage not to listen to a porno movie soundtrack.

Let's assume you're enjoying your massage, would you want to hear the grunting and moaning of another fellow? Maybe you would... who knows.

Mong678
01-01-07, 17:53
Now think about it for a minute. Is it appropriate to hear howls of feminine passion echoing from behind closed doors of a massage therapy establishment? It is not like she is in your home and in your bedroom where you both can howl like a couple of monkeys in heat.

It is a place of business.

And have some consideration for other patrons in the adjoining rooms. It would be embarrassing to have to listen to the "oooohs and ahhhhhs..." of your orgasmic friend. After all they came for a massage not to listen to a porno movie soundtrack.

Let's assume you're enjoying your massage, would you want to hear the grunting and moaning of another fellow? Maybe you would... who knows.That is true, although I do want to hear her noises while I am with her, I sure wouldn't want to hear any of you guys next door to me while we were having a session.

I am tempted to make a trip South anyway but I am still a little leary of it. Wednesday would be a perfect day for me, but I'll admit it I'm a little freaked out with all the recent activity. Wish I knew of a few others that have been there recently without any problems.

Pcpc1688
01-01-07, 19:14
I have one comment and one question/report.

First off, I know that I am still a newbie but I'm sure this goes without saying because I know you all feel the same...this sucks... I have been out of the country for the past couple weeks and when I finally get home looking, forward to a little therapy, I naturally figured I would RTTF before I make a move and boy am I glad I did. A lot has happened while I was gone. I am not going to go on about it because you guys seemed to have covered it all from what I have read. One of you guys had pointed me in the direction of the Black Wed posts and when I read them, I just hoped it would not happen anytime soon in WB. Just when I am getting comfortable and really enjoying myself...oh well, I am preaching to the choir here.

Anyway, on to my report. I am a creature of habit so I have only been frequenting Sakura prior to my trip and my last couple visits were great. I think I was spoiled by my first visit there because I ended up seeing Sue and as I said before, it was great and since then no one has really compared, up until now. I always call first but Sue is never available when I am heading down for my therapy so I roll the dice with whoever and although they have been good, they have not been "Sue good".

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.

Well, it's good to be home but not to this news that I was faced with. My last week away, I was only thinking about coming home and making a trip to see Connie again, now I don't know what to do.All I know is that the girls have physical needs too, and if 2 people click, its human nature isnt it?? After all, if they cum we feel like we accomplished something of a great feat and we get our male ego inflated...LOL I for one love to make a girl squeel, dont you?

Dont I wish to make that little spinner I saw today Dtown but the problem is if I make her feel too good, I may have to be her BF... Strangely enuff that has happened before.

PC out

Jet Ranger
01-02-07, 07:39
I have one comment and one question/report.
Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.

I would like to go into detail but I am afraid I will be putting too much out there for "others" to read. Feel free to PM me for more.

My question for you senior guys that have experienced this before is this. Why did Connie try to conceal or keep her O's quiet? She had at least two each time we were together but she would not let it out. She kept covering her mouth to not make too much noise. It was just really weird. Will she get in trouble with Mama or just doesn't want anyone outside the door to hear exactly what is going on? This is the way it was both times I was with her. It was not an act like I have seen before, she was actually afraid to make any sounds of enjoyment. Maybe this is commen, I guess that's why I am asking.Welcome back to our nightmare. I wouldn't worry about Connie wanting to be quiet. The cardinal rule is that working girls aren't supposed to fall in love with their customers or go overboard faking passion with lots of moaning. We all have found women who seem to genuinely enjoy their time with us. You can be sure the girls talk about their special customers among themselves in the breakroom. Some don't care if they find a BF among their customers, but others are sensitive about being perceived as enjoying themselves "too much" at work.

Of course, with the bonafide fears of LE, most don't want adjoining tenants to hear anything "sexual" going on. Just go with it and don't worry about it. Connie's a woman and women have been known to be irrational at times, too.

Benefactor9
01-02-07, 09:15
Connie's a woman and women have been known to be irrational at times, too.


Oh, that's just crazy talk right there.

Big Daddy Don
01-02-07, 18:10
My last post got a lot of response from you guys!! Everyone seems to have valid points.

I certainly do not think the girls have it on easy street. It would really take the fun out of it if I had to DATY and then lay ugly fat women all day every day!! BUT that is the life most of them have chosen and it is probably better life than they had.

I agree with the one poster, even if I have a bad time I just leave the tip and ask for someone different the next time. A few times I have felt too rushed or that the girl was rude, but usually it was just that we did not click or one of us had an off day. Just move on.

As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.

$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family.

Very similar conditions for immigrant workers who come from poor countries in seach of the all mighty dollar. It's just much easier to feel sorry for the pretty asian girl purring in your ear and stroking your fuck stick than to feel sorry for "Pedro" who is unshaven and reeks of fertilizer and beer who just spent all day busting his ass for the same amount of money that the girl made in 45 minutes.

Thanks for listening to the rant!! Bottom line is that it is risky for us all out there, providers and mongers alike. I just don't want to encourage a price hike in addition to the risks going up.

MoonView
01-02-07, 23:25
I have one comment and one question/report.

Until I met Connie. My first time seeing her started out the same as others, kind of average first 15-20 minutes, but then came the DATY. Like some of you, this is something I love to do so once things got started, I was looking for some DATY and that is when Connie changed. She was actually getting into this and without going into too much detail, from this point on it was a true GFE. My total time was about 65-70 minutes which was a first for me. Granted it was a Tuesday night and I didn't hear the bell ring once while I was there but that has not stopped them from only going 45 minutes before.


Does anyone know if this is(or was) the same Connie from the now closed CPHC in DC pre Black Wednesday? I called today for an appointment but was told she was on "vacation".

MnV

NcMgr
01-03-07, 14:53
Just one Comment
As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.

$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family. [quote=Big Daddy Don] Just one CommentLike the strip clubs, where the dancers are not paid but have to pay a fee to the club for being allowed to dance, the providers at AMPs pay for working there. This is beyond the up front house fee. I have heard anything from 50%-75% of the "standard" tip gets taken by the house in charges for the use of the room, condoms, food and board, transportation and anything else they can get.

Zhuxi
01-04-07, 07:57
As for the finances, I am not sure how many customers they service in a day and yes the days are long. (kind of like many lower paid immigrant workers who must wait to be chosen for an unknown job and be ready when it hits) But I don't usually see the places empty. If a girl does 4 tricks a day (less than four hours working, the rest of the time spent screwing off) working 6 days a week and taking two weeks vacation, that is $120,000 a year. If they really worked (see doing tricks) for 16 hours a day at $100 a pop they would be pulling in close to 1/2 mill a year!! But I think 3 1/2 hours a day for $400 is more realistic. Yes Mamasan might get her cut (I really don't know how it works) but Uncle Sam takes about 30% of my pie each year too.

$120,000 is pretty good pay for skilled manual labor. This is much better than "Pedro the landscaper" who works 12 hours a day (and works hard all 12 hours) to make about $120/day X 6 days a week X 50 weeks a year totaling a whopping $36,000 a year with cramped living conditions because you have to live with 8 room mates to make rent and send a little money home to support his family. Like the strip clubs, where the dancers are not paid but have to pay a fee to the club for being allowed to dance, the providers at AMPs pay for working there. This is beyond the up front house fee. I have heard anything from 50%-75% of the "standard" tip gets taken by the house in charges for the use of the room, condoms, food and board, transportation and anything else they can get.


I have heard that the 50 to 75 percent taken by the house is fairly rare. The few spa girls I have talked to outside or talked to about anything like this, point blank said they made good money. The fact of the matter is, a spa girl getting ripped off if not the norm, it is the exception now a days. And just to touch on another note, girls having to stay in the same spa for a month at a time or whatever, is not unheard of for work anyways. Check the guys who work on oil rigs, or on airliners. It is work, bottom line. I do not get in the game of feeling sorry for someone becuase they have to work. Many hot Korean girls (most AMP girls are Korean, to state the obvious) work shitty jobs and live with their parents making less then 20K a year. Work is work.
With the extremely high salary (untaxed) involving no education, comes sacrifices.

I like about 90 percent of the ladies I see, however, as a great man once said, seek fact from truth. I do not get into the game of feeling sorry for girls who wear 100 dollar mini skirts. Quite frankly it is not even venom, it is just business is business, and they do not feel sorry when your sexually deprived ass walks out the door either. They really don't ask for sympathy and neither do we (Or, should I say neither do I). Hm, must just be me.

Zhuxi

Omeyer
01-04-07, 09:24
Hmmm,
I'd suck off fat old ladies for 120k a year. Heh, might even enjoy it.

Zhuxi
01-04-07, 11:13
Hmmm,
I'd suck off fat old ladies for 120k a year. Heh, might even enjoy it.

I've been saying the same thing. :D

On another note, a few reliable sources tell me the typical room and board for the girls is 400 a week, not a deduction of tips. Barely a dent in those finances.

Zhuxi

Mong678
01-04-07, 22:18
Well, even though I have been a little afraid to make my way back down South since I am back in the country, I decided I would call Sakura and see if my new favorite therapist Connie was working. Well, she was on "vacation" so I asked if Sue was available and I was happy to hear that she was.

I was hesitant to go in but after I sat and watched the parking lot to see if anything strange was going on, I headed on in for my appointment with Sue.

It was a weird time but a really good one. For starters, it was crazy busy for a Tuesday afternoon. I have never been there during the day but I figured it would not be busy. When I called to schedule, the bell was ringing and while I was there the bell rang four times.

The down side was that I was in and out in 30 minutes. Sue kept telling me that "we so busy, sorry" but I will say that she made it a great 30 minutes.

It started by Sue telling me that the hot water was not working so I could not have a TS but she would clean me off with cold water. When we got back, the water was hot so she had me lay down and as she rushed through the TS the water got cold and that was a little uncomfortable. Then she did something weird. She kept saying "I warm you up" and as she had me sit on the edge of the table she put her leg up over mine and all of a sudden it was warm! She gave me a little GS on my leg. She laughed and kept saying "GS, GS" and kept laughing. I'm not into that and thankfully we were at the TS. No big deal, just weird.

Anyway, in to a quick massage and then the flip. As before she had her tongue in all the right places and it was great. A little bit of everything, missionary, doggie and ended with no cover and COF.

Other than the short time, it was a good trip and I will look forward to seeing Sue again.

I am still a little leary but hopefully things calm down in a little while.

Has anyone else been venturing out? I have not seen many reports, or is everyone keeping to themselves. If I should not be posting this stuff, hopefully someone will let me know.

Kluvr
01-05-07, 19:03
I've been saying the same thing. :D

On another note, a few reliable sources tell me the typical room and board for the girls is 400 a week, not a deduction of tips. Barely a dent in those finances.

Zhuxi

Some of the other expenses they pay are pretty out there, e.g. $100-150 for transport to next working location, thank you tip to manager and kitchen mama when leaving ~$500-700, occasional trip to grocery store $300-350, a newbie paying $500/month for three months for a mattress and empty room in a managers home, $400+ for Ktaxi ride from Flushing to DC, trip to SC/NC/GA for fake id $3000-3500, having someone tweak their visa/passport $5000+, flight from Korea to Bristish Columbia and being snuck across the US border and a flight to DC via Atlanta, your guess is a good as mine, an unexpected day off $500 to the house, fee for money laundering of money back to Korea and/or points on any outstanding debts. But, I'd have to say being stuck pretty much 24/7 during a working stretch, not seeing family for a year or two at a stretch, and not having anything close to a normal life is probably the heaviest cost (IMHO).

MoonView
01-05-07, 19:37
Based on a good review I took a chance and headed over to Sakura today for a little rr.

Didn't have a formal request in, just let lady luck do her thing and I was not disappointed(PM for the details).

Though quite frankly, it's been awhile since I've hit the strip mall as these traffic stops have really taken a toll on me, making me even more paranoid then usual, every time the bell rang(and it rang a lot), I couldn't help but wonder...:eek:!!

BTW, I took full advantage of transit services to get to the door...lets see LE have the balls to pull a bus over. :rolleyes:


Be safe out there,

MnV

Saiyen
01-05-07, 23:08
BTW, I took full advantage of transit services to get to the door...lets see LE have the balls to pull a bus over. :rolleyes:

MnVLMAO. Good one.

Friendly1
01-05-07, 23:22
Well, MV, that's a creative way to keep from getting pulled over. Of course, if you are there during a raid, it's a different story.

Seva Lurker
01-06-07, 09:13
Well, using the bus is one way to get around, but LE could stilll harass you at the bus stop while waiting for the bus after you've left.

Good to know Sakura is still open.

Friendly1
01-06-07, 09:35
Well, using the bus is one way to get around, but LE could stilll harass you at the bus stop while waiting for the bus after you've left.

Good to know Sakura is still open.Well, they could, but, we don't live in a police state - yet. I doubt that it's worth their time. There is enough business there that they have lots of options for folks to stop. Of course, they are supposed to have probably cause. Of course, leaving a suspected "bawdy house", might be probably cause enough.

Drew Park
01-06-07, 10:13
I took full advantage of transit services to get to the door...

Hmmmmmm. Instead of VIP cards maybe the AMPs should offer Metro Fare Cards?

Saiyen
01-07-07, 03:15
Visited **** (senior mongers can PM for name..Old spot change of names and new mamasan) again and saw Erica... She didn't recognize me even though I saw her 3 weeks ago. Not surprising I guess there are plenty of balding fat mongers going there. lol

I felt this was a less GFE.. No kissing just pecks on the lips. TS was ok and massage was non existant, or really really weak massage I should say. A little neck rub and then on to the DATY whic was good. I think it was late so she may have been tired. Cowgirl & missionary was it. Nothing spectacular. Although she did say that she worked Christmas & NYE so I guess that could be the reason for lack of energy.

I would give overall experience a 5.

Looks I will say the body was thin but the face not that cute so overall 6.0
Attitude 6.5
Service 5
Overall 5.5

I will say this place generally has great service and sexy ass girls.

Jake Jj 1492
01-07-07, 16:54
Maybe we should start wearing t-shirts that say "My Bawdy, My Choice"


Well, they could, but, we don't live in a police state - yet. I doubt that it's worth their time. There is enough business there that they have lots of options for folks to stop. Of course, they are supposed to have probably cause. Of course, leaving a suspected "bawdy house", might be probably cause enough.

Fatpig
01-07-07, 21:44
Had to get some relaxation during the playoffs today. Decided to give summy a chance again and WOW. Still will give 5 for looks. TS was warm and got the right spots. Asked for light massage and was sensual. Got some nice AR. asked if I like and I said hell ya. On the flip she started the flirts and talking like I am so beautiful, ya ya ya. Your stil gonna get the standard tip. I love those fat nipples for sure. Koreans have the best in the world. WHOA.

I never seen anyone else in there so maybe will ask next time.

Fatpig
01-07-07, 21:46
Hmmmmmm. Instead of VIP cards maybe the AMPs should offer Metro Fare Cards?Why not pass out pepples. One pepple gets you basic massage, more opens the menu.

[I had this was funny thought, would this work. hmm]

Pcpc1688
01-07-07, 22:42
Enjoy,

Email this posting to a friend
ESCORT AD DECODER ---- Here's a little Humor
Reply to: pers-258345356@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-01-05, 8:22PM PST


ESCORT ADVERTISEMENT AND WEBSITE DECODER.

Ultimate GFE........ Has a good imagination
I enjoy my work........A highly accomplished actress, fakes "O"s better than Meg Ryan.
Down-to-earth........Isn't high.
Energetic ........Is high.
Discreet ........Too disorganized to keep your personal information.
Outcall only ........Has a car, lives in a motel.
Incall only........Doesn't have a car, lives in a motel.
BBW...........Pick a fold, any fold.
I answer my phone ........No computer.
E-mail me only ........ No phone.
Fill out my online booking form........ You will never get an appointment, ever.
Punctual........+/- 2 hours.
Educated........5 years of high school.
Wants to spend time getting to know you........Kills as much of the hour as possible with idle chit-chat.
Appreciates tips........$200 for a no-touch dance, $300 more for FS.
Girl-next-door..........Has a face like a basset hound.
Mature.............Take her photo, add 15 years.
Classy..........Washes.
University Educated.......... Bartending School.
Sensitive..........Doesn't laugh at you to your face.
Loves meeting new people..........She needs the money.
Lingerie available..........BYO, she'll be more than happy to wear it.
Sensual..........Turns the TV off.
Referrals required..........Wants to gauge how skanky you really are.
Deposit required..........Primadonna.
Sophisticated..........Stops the action to take cell phone calls.
Blonde..........Bad dye job.
Redhead..........Wig.
Couples welcome..........At least women usually wash.
Can bring a friend..........Anything to get you off faster.
Smoker..........6 packs a day.
Non-Smoker..........2 packs a day.
Doesn't do drugs..........That happens after the session.
Face obscured on site for privacy..........Butt ugly.
Elegant Dinner Companion..........A free meal is always nice.
Tight butt..........No hips, ass looks like 14 year old boy.
B cup ..........BB's on a breadboard.
C cup..........B cup.
D cup..........C cup.
DD cup..........Fat.
115..........140.
125..........150.
135..........160.
140+..........A house.
New pics on site..........Reviewers slammed her for dated pics.
I only take 1 appointment per day..........The other 5 are just friends.
My car broke down..........She has better things to do.
My email crashed, I lost everything..........She has better things to do for the next week.
Retirement..........She met a BF who doesn't like her job.
Coming out of retirement..........She was dumped.
Holiday Specials..........Kids need winter clothes.
Light Domination..........You don't want FS? All the better.
If you seek a onetime experience, look elsewhere..........look elsewhere.
Nice apartment..........Doesn't live in a motel.
A few piercings..........Face and bod look like a pin cushion.
A few tats..........More ink than bare skin.
Very accommodating..........Speaks greek if you are less than 6", $100 extra.
Now independent............Too flaky even for the agency.
Genuine pics...........Just not of her.
34-23-34.................. 34-32-40


pc out

Jkimva
01-08-07, 00:20
Has anyone else been venturing out? I have not seen many reports, or is everyone keeping to themselves. If I should not be posting this stuff, hopefully someone will let me know.Been wondering the same thing. Should we still post recent visits?

Been reading some illiterate and shady posts.

Quick Poll Please

Benefactor9
01-09-07, 16:04
Policemen are notoriously bad spellers with horrid diction. Frankly I am amazed they can post here, much less log in.

Benchseats Rock
01-09-07, 16:18
Policemen are notoriously bad spellers with horrid diction. Frankly I am amazed they can post here, much less log in.


If you really want to be amazed, you should have a look at their forum (http://forums.officer.com).

Benchseats Rock
01-09-07, 22:17
Cops are at Kinja and busting the place.
This is a real time report.


Forewarned is Forearmed.



Benchseats Rock


This alert has been brought to your critical attention by the Monger Information Network.

Big Daddy Don
01-10-07, 08:25
Looks like a good thing I did not venture to Kinja yesterday evening by BSR's report!!

I did get out to Sakura. wasn't busy so I got the line up. Tammy, Michelle and ?. Michelle looked cute but tired. I picked Tammy since she looked eager to go. Very bouncy and energenic, led me around by "Little Daddy" and kept calling him "little brother". Comical but fun. Proper table shower. Nice massage for a FS. No AR though, just a little tickle with the finger then flip. Very playful during start moving to an overenthusiastic CBJ on to DATY. That's when she went crazy. She was very responsive to the tounge and really seemed to like it. Mish for finish. I wish the tables were bigger!

I know I should RTFF but what is the breakdown of the rating system again?

looks = 7
attitude= 9
body= 7 (I like little waif types. She was thick, not fat with big breasts)
Performance= 7 (only because of lack of AR)

On my way home, I still felt the need for a good rub down though. I figured a little helping hand for the end would be nice for that little extra drain too. I stopped by A-Plus. Lisa answered the door. Very pretty girl with ideal build. No TS, great massage. Good and relaxed for the flip. Popped her top but that was as far as she would go. Extra lube for a very pleasant HJ. It was what I expected. I had been there before and actually got the best HJ I ever got at an AMP. Funny though, she looked very expectant when I pulled out some bills. I peeled off the standard .6 and pocketed the rest. Looked like she was going to say something but I just smiled. She knew the standard rate, laughed and gave me a peck on the cheek.

No real rating since it was only and HJ place, just pretty girl and relaxing massage.

Omeyer
01-10-07, 15:36
Drove by Kinja just after 6 yesterday evening. "open" sign was on and the place looked typically calm.
Nothing showing up on the Potomac News website yet.
Hoping it was some disorderly customer and not a big thing . . . hoping . . .

Benchseats Rock
01-10-07, 18:13
Hoping it was some disorderly customer and not a big thing . . . hoping . ..

Whether or not this is a big thing remains to be seen. All the hoping won't help that this was a bona fide raid and not anything else.

Jim Rob
01-10-07, 21:41
Hey Mongers, Well I just today drove by Tyco therapy, I really just drove by for shit's and giggles. I'm' really too scared to go to an AMP and not have the door kicked in and cops everywhere, acting like the cops on South Park (which I find to be the only realistic show about Cops). So yes Tyco was closed and the sign said closed for 5 to 6 weeks, moose out front should have told you. Well I did see this girl Natasha on CL, she is out in Vienna and is half Asian and very hot, way hotter then her pics. Trusted mongers can PM me for details about her

Dlrzboy
01-10-07, 23:26
Went by Sakura tonight--it was closed and all the lights were out.

Kinja had lights on and the open sign was lit. But, I called twice from a pay phone, and no one answered. An SUV was there, but might have been Uncle LEO waiting for a visitor. Did anyone try it?

Guess they win. Last two visits at Sakura, the provider was jumpy every time the bell rang--and they were busy.

Omeyer
01-11-07, 12:31
Nothing on the police blotter hints (screams out) at an ongoing sting operation.
Would be funny as hell to see someone sneak up and put Dunkin Donuts signs over the Kinja and Sukura signs.

Jet Ranger
01-11-07, 13:18
LE may may still be in the middle of their investigation and they won't go public until they are ready. As I understand the chronology of the Black Wednesday investigation, it started in February and the Feds didn't make the massive raids and shows of force raids and their announcements to the media until August.

As you may have read in the code extract I posted, there are several government officials authorized to enter massage establishments. Unlike HWC, they may not have found usable evidence of criminal activity. When this happens, I know of instances on the West Coast where LE resorted to legal "harassment" by parking cruisers in front of an establishment and/or the Health Department frequently making unannounced "inspections" and writing up the AMPs for BS violations.

Remember, there were previous reports some time ago of PWC LE questioning guys as they were leaving HWC, so LE didn't bust HWC immediately, but they were obviously working on a plan to raid it and take it down, which they eventually did.

Jake Jj 1492
01-12-07, 01:07
I know of instances on the West Coast where LE resorted to legal "harassment" by parking cruisers in front of an establishment and/or the Health Department frequently making unannounced "inspections" and writing up the AMPs for BS violations.I noticed this kind of activity around the Eye place in DC not long after they were "visited" by LE. Soon after, the spa let their phone get disconnected to reduce the amount of foot traffic but remained open. Not too many days after, the parked cruisers went away, but now it seems the spa may be closed for real now too. Not sure as there have been conflicting reports on their closure, but who knows.

Better safe than sorry.

Kluvr
01-12-07, 01:47
Recent LE activities have me thinking of getting to know a nice rub&tug lady and look for off-campus options.

Roamin Roman
01-12-07, 02:19
A local paper was carrying the following ad recently: "Asian Pretty Girl, 25y.o., 5ft.5in., 115lbs., 34B-23-34, offers massage to relax your tired muscles. Incall or outcall. DC/VA." Since I was in Arlington at the time and it was the end of the workday, I decided to TOFTT and gave her a call.

First, the "bad" news: Not all the listed specifications were, by my estimate, quite accurate. She is a 34B, to be sure, but her waist is probably more like 32 (versus 23) and she's got a couple more inches at the hips than the 34 listed (probably a 36). And, she's a bit more solid than the 115 pounds listed in the ad (closer to 135#). Also, I'd put her age at about 40.

All that being said, Linda was a sweet girl, somewhat quiet bordering on slightly shy (I think she's a bit self-conscious of her weight). And she was cute --- not a knockout by any means --- but cute in that Asian kind of way. Her massage skills are more than competent, and she has strong hands. She will give you a good rubdown and leave you feeling totally relaxed by the end of the session (w/ standard Harry Reasoner action). And, she is Chinese, not Korean as I first thought upon seeing her. She is pleasant, clean, and can carry on a decent conversation, for those who like to talk to their masseusse during a session. And, while I didn't persue it, I just had this feeling that she may be willing to explore other styles of massage if she feels comfortable with the person she's with. I didn't see anyone else at the apartment, but did get the impression that one or maybe two other girls were there, as well.

Would I repeat with her? Yes. Will I try to see if she offers different types of massages next time? Yes, too. She may indeed be 40, but I wouldn't mind raising her tail, given the opportunity. However, I think one would have to initiate that move, as she probably isn't going to offer on her own. (Safer that way.)

Seniors can PM me for details.


Rating: 7 / 7.5 / 7.5 (L/S/A)


"Have fun at the Forum" --- R::R

[The above fictional account is copyrighted by its author and is intended only for the enjoyment of those willing to read it. Similarities between persons described herein and persons living or deceased is purely coincidental but darn lucky. Inquiries from members about the grammatical composition of this tale of adventure are welcome, but requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Seniority rules...even if my own toga still has that newish look to it. Exceptions made for other members whom I recognize from this or other forums, past or present, real or imagined.]

Jake Jj 1492
01-12-07, 16:01
Went by Sakura tonight--it was closed and all the lights were out.

Kinja had lights on and the open sign was lit. But, I called twice from a pay phone, and no one answered. An SUV was there, but might have been Uncle LEO waiting for a visitor. Did anyone try it?

Guess they win. Last two visits at Sakura, the provider was jumpy every time the bell rang--and they were busy.Main sign at Sakura is lit today, but open sign is not. Didn't try to call.

VanDriver
01-14-07, 14:43
Not sure if this is where I should post this PM, but did anybody else get this from Tom Thumbs? I have no idea what the hell he is talking about.

Van

*******************************************************
In a PM from Tom Thumbs, he wrote:


fuck it! let's just do the "BIG KAHUNA"

we'll all meet at the manassas courthouse at 10 am and we'll go into the courtroom and as soon as the judges tries to say anything other then to get a jury to make decisions
we'll arrest the judge and bring them into federal court [that's why we have federal court a place to bring the states into court] charge the judge with treason and demand they be put to death

Harley Dude 29
01-15-07, 20:20
With the dry spell going around the entire area, and eveyone at full alert, I wanted to give Golden Palms a try and see what they have. Beware, this may have uncle LEO all over it. I called using a phone card, which comes back to a number in Colorado. They were busy and put me on hold. I got tired and hung up, only to get a call back to my phone directly within about 2 minutes. I don't know how they could have gotten the number without some help, so be careful out there. If you have any history there, please PM.

Tom Thumbs
01-15-07, 21:09
With the dry spell going around the entire area, and eveyone at full alert, I wanted to give Golden Palms a try and see what they have. Beware, this may have uncle LEO all over it. I called using a phone card, which comes back to a number in Colorado. They were busy and put me on hold. I got tired and hung up, only to get a call back to my phone directly within about 2 minutes. I don't know how they could have gotten the number without some help, so be careful out there. If you have any history there, please PM.I have a Walmart card that use to have a colorado number but not no more now when I call they get my phone number it just might be the card.

Harley.

Trav Pokerman
01-15-07, 21:54
If you really want to be amazed, you should have a look at their forum (http://forums.officer.com).Hmm. Anyone notice that the site looks suspiciously like the U-S-A Sex Guide (e.g., fonts, signon boxes)? I'm officially concerned.

===========================================

Hi Trav Pokerman,

Interesting observation, but the fact is that the USA Forum uses a software program called vBulletin, which is the most popular forum software available, and which has been installed on more than 200,000 websites.

Thanks,

Jackson

The Nub
01-16-07, 01:41
**DISCLAIMER: The following is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are the product of the author’s imagination or are used fictitiously, and any resemblance to any actual persons, living or dead, events or locales is entirely coincidental.***
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Nub smiled as he got dressed in an attempt to hide his disappointment. You see, his first spa experience had just turned out to be far less than he had expected. Just 1 hour before, he had arrived at Swan. The Nub was nervous. He walked in the building, made his way up the stairs and rang the bell. He heard someone rushing towards the door; it was a girl in her late 20's. "Not too bad," The Nub thought. The girl spoke softly in broken English. Later the nub would find out that the girl is Korean, and he would ask her name which he would forget after a few seconds. "First time?" the Nub was asked. "Yes." After some formalities, the nub took a quick shower and then he was ready for some therapy. Things had been a little awkward till this point because of The Nub's inexperience. The therapy began. The Nub could barely feel the girl’s hands on his back. The massage was very light, mechanical, and not energetic at all. Later he was asked to flip over. The Nub thought that things would get better from then on. However, the mechanical massage continued on The Nub's shoulders, legs and arms. After a few more minutes the girl said, "Ok...Done..."

"That's it?" the nub asked.

"Yes, massagi only here" the girl said.

The nub thought, "What! You call that a massage?" but he only smiled.

The nub was totally disappointed and walked out. The therapy had not relieved he Nub’s stress.

Amp_Man
01-16-07, 01:44
Just when I've managed to have some extra funds to go hunting...I read the depressing news of LE activities all over the place. It has been over a couple months since my last visit to Sakura, and have been itching to go back! Last visit, saw Jenny and was a definite GFE. Argh!!! Anyone visit a good private provider lately?

amp_man

Harley Dude 29
01-16-07, 08:15
I have a Walmart card that use to have a colorado number but not no more now when I call they get my phone number it just might be the card.

Harley.

Thanks TT for letting me know that bit of information. I tried it several times and about 1/2 the time, it does come back with my cell phone.

I guess I can chalk it up to being paranoid with all the activity going on in the metro area. At least now I know that the calling card does not give a non-working number all the time as it used to. What is it coming to when you can't even change your location electronically.

A John
01-16-07, 08:36
Amp
Hope all is well and you've had a nice entry into the new year. Check your PM Box
Happy Hunting
AJ



Just when I've managed to have some extra funds to go hunting...I read the depressing news of LE activities all over the place. It has been over a couple months since my last visit to Sakura, and have been itching to go back! Last visit, saw Jenny and was a definite GFE. Argh!!! Anyone visit a good private provider lately?

amp_man

Trav Pokerman
01-16-07, 09:36
Hi Trav Pokerman,

Interesting observation, but the fact is that the USA Forum uses a software program called vBulletin, which is the most popular forum software available, and which has been installed on more than 200,000 websites.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]I figured that was the reason. I suppose this activity makes one unnecessarily very paranoid. I apologize.

Westender2
01-16-07, 13:32
https://####www.itellas.####com/index.php

Just trying to be helpful.

Also, if you go to a public library, create a yahoo id, and never use that yahoo id on your home pc. I have to think you are pretty safe.

Sushi Boy
01-16-07, 16:06
VD,
I got the PMs, too. I think it is an attempt at a joke.

Not sure if this is where I should post this PM, but did anybody else get this from Tom Thumbs? I have no idea what the hell he is talking about.

Van

*******************************************************
In a PM from Tom Thumbs, he wrote:


fuck it! let's just do the "BIG KAHUNA"

we'll all meet at the manassas courthouse at 10 am and we'll go into the courtroom and as soon as the judges tries to say anything other then to get a jury to make decisions
we'll arrest the judge and bring them into federal court [that's why we have federal court a place to bring the states into court] charge the judge with treason and demand they be put to death

A John
01-16-07, 16:27
Sushi,
I'm unable to find the humor in this one :) it was like 20 of us hit with this





VD,
I got the PMs, too. I think it is an attempt at a joke.

Pcpc1688
01-16-07, 18:19
I got the same email. Whats the guy want?

Anyone have a idea?

PC

Tom Thumbs
01-16-07, 20:11
VD,

I got the PMs, too. I think it is an attempt at a joke.If you want something Sushi you got to fight for it or else someone will take it away from you.

Lark
01-16-07, 21:09
With the dry spell going around the entire area, and eveyone at full alert, I wanted to give Golden Palms a try and see what they have. Beware, this may have uncle LEO all over it. I called using a phone card, which comes back to a number in Colorado. They were busy and put me on hold. I got tired and hung up, only to get a call back to my phone directly within about 2 minutes. I don't know how they could have gotten the number without some help, so be careful out there. If you have any history there, please PM.I too have TRIED to use phone cards to mask the origin of a call. NO DEAL. The software that pays for the call references the number dialed FROM. The only way i know to block the number dailed from is to use *7? or *8? code. I forgot the code, but the code is always listed in the white pages of the phone book.

NcMgr
01-16-07, 21:09
Open sign lit yesterday afternoon.

I did not have time to stop.

Telcova
01-17-07, 13:31
Open sign lit yesterday afternoon.

I did not have time to stop.With open sign lit, I took the plunge (Sunday). Asked for Sue, mamasan replied vacation, rats. Luck drew Shannon. TS was average at best, massage was ok (short as usual), fake/very weak asian, decent translated french, RCJ, CG, mish, doggie, done. The good: she had a smokin bod, multiple positions. The bad: no asian, short massage, not sue service. I will not repeat.

FYI: I changed my name to protect the inocent

Vamonger
01-18-07, 11:06
Drew Yumi earlier this week. Say's she is new (about 1 week).
A bit older than some of the provider's there, say probably early-mid thirties. Blondish hair with a nice pair of sweater puppies going on and a pretty nice looking body. TS was nice and had a good conversation with her. Sweet and playful.

Massage was good and all other things were delivered quite nicely. She has had a kid or 2, but overall things are reasonably toned. PM for details.

Attitude 8

Looks 7

Performance 8

Overall 8

VAM

Jake Jj 1492
01-18-07, 18:26
LOL

Good post.

Sakura's open sign is still on. Been almost a full week now, so looks like they're a-okay for a while.

MoonView
01-18-07, 18:57
Drew Yumi earlier this week.

[text edit]

Massage was good and all other things were delivered quite nicely. She has had a kid or 2, but overall things are reasonably toned. PM for details.


VAM



Got to love that about the asian women, they squeeze them out and still look good while you see them pushing the stroller around Neiman Marcus still a size 2!! :p

MnV

Chivas Regal
01-18-07, 21:34
HWC was raided and I did not even know that. Went for massage a couple of times, but would never venture to that place anymore.

What is going on in Prince William County?

Chivas Regal
01-19-07, 00:53
HWC was raided and I did not even know that. Went for massage a couple of times after the raid and found business as usual, but would never venture to that place anymore. Is it wrong to get massage in VA? Things never seems to amaze me.

What is going on in Prince William County?

Friendly1
01-19-07, 06:17
HWC was raided and I did not even know that. Went for massage a couple of times after the raid and found business as usual, but would never venture to that place anymore. Is it wrong to get massage in VA? Things never seems to amaze me.

What is going on in Prince William County?Unbeknownst to most of us, apparently there was more than massages going on at HWC! Imagine! Who knew? Well, I guess the Prince William County Police did, or maybe they supposed that something was going on. Apparently some people went there and paid for sex with the massueses there. If I were you, I'd stay away from places like that.

Benchseats Rock
01-19-07, 09:09
I too have TRIED to use phone cards to mask the origin of a call. NO DEAL. The software that pays for the call references the number dialed FROM. The only way i know to block the number dailed from is to use *7? or *8? code. I forgot the code, but the code is always listed in the white pages of the phone book.


*67 to mask your number
*82 to reveal your number

Just get a throwaway cell phone if you don't want to reveal who you are. Figure that it is $30 or $40 at most? When you consider what you have to lose and balance the cost with what you are already paying for some fun.... it's just not enough money to worry about is it?


BSR

Boberati
01-19-07, 19:56
Decided I would TOFTT and go to AO in Sterling. It's a short drive and I have always been curious about it even though the recent reports have not been good. Greeted at front door by cute, tall Chinese girl, around 25 or 30. Thought this seems good so far. Think her name was Jennifer. Anyway, get to the room and round one of bait and switch starts. I say no. In comes the next one. No again. I say I am only interested in Jennifer, as these other two were thicker or older or both, and start putting my clothes back on. Jennifer comes in, closes the door and says that she does not want to hurt the other girl's feelings, as she is supposed to be the manager, but then gives me a very warm hug, asks me to stay and says she would be happy to do the deed.

My expectations were for HJ only and that is basically what I got, although I immediately started massaging her through her clothes, up her ass-crack, down her pants front to the Y and down her top to her nipples with no resistance, which was enough to get me off in the end.

Was just a nice session, pretty quick, but I did only pay. 50 for a half hour to start, tipped. 40. Would recommend, although I'm not sure whether Jennifer would be willing to do this on a regular basis, then again, who knows what the real story is in terms of their "management" policies. She was sweet to me and cute, again in my opinion. YMMV.

(Note: I have always made a habit of attempting some heavy petting early on to let my intentions be known. I read some recent reports about this place that they were only offering legit massage, so I decided not to take the timid route and wait for them to make the first move. They also have signs everywhere stating "Do Not Ask For Sexual Favors")

Tom Thumbs
01-20-07, 07:29
10am we'll all meet at the courthouse.

Everybody knows the LAW.

A jury is to make the decisions in the courts.

Before the constitution you know what they did, they had judges making the decisions in the courts. Then the constitution came up and said we don't want no dictator judge making decisions in the courts. we demand a jury make the decisions and that's the LAW

The only job of a judge is to get a jury not to make any decision at all none except to get a jury. to have a judge try to make any decision in the courts would be an act of treason, trying to replace a jury with a dictator.

when the judge tries to do anything other then get a jury we will arrest them and bring them to federal court and demand they be put to death because the penalty for treason is death.

Rejected Monke
01-20-07, 08:39
Sources tell me Sakura was shut down and all the ladies taken by immigration. Is this a false scare like Sun or is this for real?

Tom Thumbs
01-20-07, 15:18
Unbeknownst to most of us, apparently there was more than massages going on at HWC! Imagine! Who knew? Well, I guess the Prince William County Police did, or maybe they supposed that something was going on. Apparently some people went there and paid for sex with the massueses there. If I were you, I'd stay away from places like that.Driving a car is an illegal activity it kills 65,000 people a year.

Conducting court without a jury is illegal. Its called treason.

Chivas Regal
01-20-07, 15:59
Sources tell me Sakura was shut down and all the ladies taken by immigration. Is this a false scare like Sun or is this for real?On Route1, Is this Sakura? Looks like all the AMPs are going to be setup in Prince Wiliam County. They are booking the johns too. So venture at your own risk.

Woodbridge will be soon like DC.

Jake Jj 1492
01-20-07, 17:40
Sources tell me Sakura was shut down and all the ladies taken by immigration. Is this a false scare like Sun or is this for real?Looked like they were still open for business on Thursday about 6PM, but not sure since.

Sleazebum
01-20-07, 17:50
This clown needs to go away!

JJ



10am we'll all meet at the courthouse.

Everybody knows the LAW.

A jury is to make the decisions in the courts.

Before the constitution you know what they did, they had judges making the decisions in the courts. Then the constitution came up and said we don't want no dictator judge making decisions in the courts. we demand a jury make the decisions and that's the LAW

The only job of a judge is to get a jury not to make any decision at all none except to get a jury. to have a judge try to make any decision in the courts would be an act of treason, trying to replace a jury with a dictator.

when the judge tries to do anything other then get a jury we will arrest them and bring them to federal court and demand they be put to death because the penalty for treason is death.

Benchseats Rock
01-20-07, 18:11
I thought that this was a joke.
Now I am more inclined to think that Tom has simply lost his mind.



10am we'll all meet at the courthouse.

Everybody knows the LAW.

A jury is to make the decisions in the courts.

Before the constitution you know what they did, they had judges making the decisions in the courts. Then the constitution came up and said we don't want no dictator judge making decisions in the courts. we demand a jury make the decisions and that's the LAW

The only job of a judge is to get a jury not to make any decision at all none except to get a jury. to have a judge try to make any decision in the courts would be an act of treason, trying to replace a jury with a dictator.

when the judge tries to do anything other then get a jury we will arrest them and bring them to federal court and demand they be put to death because the penalty for treason is death.

Jake Jj 1492
01-20-07, 18:34
I thought that this was a joke.

Now I am more inclined to think that Tom has simply lost his mind.Not only has Tom Thumb apparently lost his mind, he has no concept of how courts work here in America.

Ab Busta
01-22-07, 03:19
Hey everyone,

I'm the new guy, but I feel like I'm a little to late.

Seems like everything is headin down hill.

MoonView
01-22-07, 11:00
Hey everyone,

I'm the new guy, but I feel like I'm a little to late.

Seems like everything is headin down hill.


Unfortunately you are very late (unless you are a thrill seeker), as the amp party is over at least for now in NOVA that is. DC is your best/safest bet if you must...!

Alternatively the streets seems to be the best bet for entertainment, as a moving target offers more chance for anonymity.

Good luck,

MnV

Ab Busta
01-22-07, 16:41
Unfortunately you are very late (unless you are a thrill seeker), as the amp party is over at least for now in NOVA that is. DC is your best/safest bet if you must...!

Alternatively the streets seems to be the best bet for entertainment, as a moving target offers more chance for anonymity.

Good luck,

MnVWell thanks for the welcoming, I would post reports on past experiences but is there really a need? Help a newbie out. I've had more experience with escorts than AMPs.

Rejected Monke
01-23-07, 13:44
We should start writing the asian mail order brides get the ladies over here get them all together and let them open their own amp's.

Just tell them they can make 20g's a monthNow that's the definition of human trafficking, LOL!

Jim Rob
01-23-07, 17:02
I thought that this was a joke.
Now I am more inclined to think that Tom has simply lost his mind.


I'm confused, are we not going to meet at the courthouse anymore?

Laura Rager
01-24-07, 00:47
It seems to be gone. Anyone know if "Ichi" from there went elsewhere?

She ran the place in the end.

BigTigger
01-24-07, 22:00
Stopped by today and saw the very pretty, wonderful bodied Darlene. Nothing seemed out of order. TS and tip on table and I got the normal full service just like old times.

I only gave the standard $ tip. So all seemed great to me. They did tell me that the VIP cards will not be coming back.

BigTigg

Amp_Man
01-25-07, 02:19
Well, after reading the post below, maybe I should have waited to head down south again on rt. 1. However, seeing things are so slow both on this board and on the Philly board (I was heading up there for work)...I thought I'd take another one for the team. Stopped by AO, saw Jenny, and two other chinese providers there. One of the other two was short, chubby, and looks almost latino. Jenny wasn't on schedule, however, after much insisting, she agreed to a session....prices here are a bit higher than the usuals I'd must say. They also seem to have a very good mental clientale list and knows who is a regular member and who isn't. All in all, good service, a hug, and a handshake and I was out the door.

Amp_Man
01-25-07, 02:25
Anyone catching this session on sex slaves in the US and oversees? Wow!! it puts some of the AMPs into perspective. Makes you feel bad for the providers that are forced into the trade rather than by choice and makes you wish there was something that can be done.

my thought, legalize it and regulate it...a lot of european countries (Germany, I've been there) do this, it eliminates sex slave trades, control diseases, and also controls the illegal activities.

LoveLOS
01-25-07, 04:04
I can report that Pinetree Amp is a viable alternative to driving up to NoVa. In LL's experience, it does not replace the services available in DC as of this writing...

AM, what you propose just makes too much fucking sense. It doesn't stand a chance in the General Assembly...

Your man in the field... If you see him there, he is probably fucking a ho...
LoveLOS

Superman06
01-25-07, 07:41
We should start writing the asian mail order brides get the ladies over here get them all together and let them open their own amp's.

Just tell them they can make 20g's a monthMail order brides sounds like a good idea to me. That is of course if I can get a decent honeymoon in the deal!

Jake Jj 1492
01-25-07, 10:36
I can report that Pinetree AmpYour man in the field... If you see him there, he is probably fucking a ho...
LoveLOS
Great string of links LL. Keep hoping they will lead me down the yellow brick road to the Ultimate AMP...the land of massagi and honey...

Amp_Man
01-26-07, 02:42
LL, I'm amazed that you keep track of your hobby expenditure (follow LL link)! I'd be pretty depressed if I tracked mine, and it isn't even near yours. Anyhow, can't your form some sort of a business and write these offs? Say like a Adult Adventure Guide Service Business...ok maybe mask the Adult part. Or even a LL Pleasure Consulting.



I can report that Pinetree Amp is a viable alternative to driving up to NoVa. In LL's experience, it does not replace the services available in DC as of this writing...

AM, what you propose just makes too much fucking sense. It doesn't stand a chance in the General Assembly...

Your man in the field... If you see him there, he is probably fucking a ho...
LoveLOS

Ampfreq
01-26-07, 15:07
What the tigg failed to mention was just how cute Darlene is. She's a bit short even for an asian gal has a cute little butt and some real big hooters. Enhanced of course if that's to your liking. Her face is a solid 8 maybe 9. Same score overall, except for the fake boobs she's nearly perfect to my eye. However her attitude is somewhat lacking although some of that might have been my fault. Not really into DATY and was too quick to get the whole thing over with. She seemed new to the game and still quite young. And if you like piercings you should definitely check her out!

I would like to get back to see her but by the time I make it there I fear she will be gone. And they were open as usual as if nothing had happened recently. Your guess is as good as mine. I imagine most of you are staying away since they seemed slow.

Af

Spaman2
01-27-07, 00:13
Report number 4 of 5 (other reports are in the General board.

Visited Angel Therapy in Sterling. Got cee-cee, who seemed to be an enthusiastic Korean. HJ only, but very easy, very friendly, very enthusiastic. good massage, including step treatment.

Looks 4
Body 4
Massage 8
HJ 7
Attitude 9

Benefactor9
01-27-07, 01:02
I'm confused, are we not going to meet at the courthouse anymore?

Does this mean our candlelight dinner after the trial is postponed?

Can I get a raincheck?

B9

Benchseats Rock
01-27-07, 01:56
Does this mean our candlelight dinner after the trial is postponed?

Can I get a raincheck?

B9


Is there a trial coming up or something?

Zoomster
01-27-07, 17:11
Report number 4 of 5 (other reports are in the General board.

Visited Angel Therapy in Sterling. Got cee-cee, who seemed to be an enthusiastic Korean. HJ only, but very easy, very friendly, very enthusiastic. good massage, including step treatment.

Looks 4
Body 4
Massage 8
HJ 7
Attitude 9

Spaman2, I think I have partaken of this girl's services, but in a certain AMP in another county. Far more was offered than what you describe. You may want to head further south, depending on the level of therapy you want. Assuming, of course, that these fine health establishments have not all been shut down.

MoonView
01-28-07, 20:05
Anybody have a line on where Sue went to?

PM me if you do.

Thanks,
MnV

Sleazebum
01-28-07, 23:32
YES! If anyone knows where she is, let me know as well!

JJ




Anybody have a line on where Sue went to?

PM me if you do.

Thanks,
MnV

Mong678
01-29-07, 20:57
Put me on the list of people to notify if anyone know where Sue is.

I am looking into some local escorts but not sure who to choose. Any suggestions there would be appreciated.

Ermurph2
01-30-07, 14:33
Has anybody seen Natasha from CL?

If so, please PM me with details.

Thanks!

VanDriver
01-30-07, 17:46
Put me on the list of people to notify if anyone know where Sue is.

I am looking into some local escorts but not sure who to choose. Any suggestions there would be appreciated.

I don't have any idea who she is and I want to be on the notification list!

Van

Rejected Monke
01-30-07, 18:36
I too am looking for Sue. :(

Zoomster
02-01-07, 16:37
I visited the Health and Wellness Center last night for a round of therapy. I first circled the parking lot to make sure there weren't any channel 7 news crews, squad cars, or citizens concerned about public morality hanging about. With the coast clear, I was greeted by the mamasan and asked to wait, as all the therapists were busy. I twiddled my thumbs on the couch in the foyer for twenty minutes, then had to duck into the supply closet when one of the anonymous clientele left the establishment. I was finally attended by Dallin (I hope I got her name right, as her English was only so-so). What she lacked in language skills she made up for in looks: short, stacked (possibly fake), a finely shaped rear, and very pretty eyes. Her massage services were fairly standard, but she was certainly fine to look at. I definitely recommend her to those guys willing to risk a visit to this venue of recent notoriety (not that I believe any of those terrible rumors floating about).

Jake Jj 1492
02-02-07, 23:58
Sign is still lit, but nobody home. Open sign dark...

Roamin Roman
02-05-07, 02:32
...try ATMB in Falls Church / Arlington. You won't get BJ or FS or any of the varieties, but you will get an excellent massage from one of a couple very skilled gals who know how to work the muscles and the joints. When I was last there, a few weeks ago, I drew the manager (looks to be about early- to mid-50s). She was a pleasant, if somewhat shy gal, who gave the FULL hour and made me feel absolutely WONDERFUL. Since I've been to this place a number of times when I want a good LEGIT rubdown, I didn't ask her for a happy ending because I was slightly concerned that she might not let me have another appointment. Chicken shit of me? Perhaps, but one has to keep at least one legit establishment in one's book for those times when one needs the real therapy. Have I gotten more than a good rubdown in the past at this place? Sure, once, but with one of the staff (and discreetly, lest the girl get fired), and it was what one would call the "standard NoVA treatment" in other massage establishments. An hour's appointment runs, coincidentally, 0.7 and tipping is optional. Still, if one needs a break from the mongering circuit for a legit visit, try this place. Not a knockout by any means, but decent.

Roamin Roman
02-05-07, 02:44
For a few years now, I've been going to a freelancer in Annandale. She takes appointments on a 'word-of-mouth' basis only, but has been in the same location for years. She, herself, is about mid-50s but very sultry. She also has a younger gal (mid-30s) on staff also. Both do FS. After getting back from travel, however, I find that her number is no longer working. She mentioned nothing about closing the place down, there is nothing in the FFx County police reports to indicate that the place was busted, and the place still looks (from the outside) like its in the same condition its been in for lo these past many years.
Since she is discreet with regard to her clientele, I don't want to post the name of her place or her (former) number here. Instead, if there are any senior members on this board who may know whom I'm referring to, if you could drop me a PM I would be more than grateful. Her 'house fee' and rates for services are standard, exactly what Sakura, HWC, and other favorite haunts charged.

Have fun at the Forum
R::R

FWIW, if it helps, this lady can be a bit of a freak. One time, when I was with her and had finished giving her DATY for about a ½-hour, she rolled me over on the table and mounted me bareback! Surprised the absolute heck out of me, especially since she brought me to a finish inside her. Since then, I've made sure to bring the cover.

Zhuxi
02-05-07, 14:23
I visited the Health and Wellness Center last night for a round of therapy. I first circled the parking lot to make sure there weren't any channel 7 news crews, squad cars, or citizens concerned about public morality hanging about. With the coast clear, I was greeted by the mamasan and asked to wait, as all the therapists were busy. I twiddled my thumbs on the couch in the foyer for twenty minutes, then had to duck into the supply closet when one of the anonymous clientele left the establishment. I was finally attended by Dallin (I hope I got her name right, as her English was only so-so). What she lacked in language skills she made up for in looks: short, stacked (possibly fake), a finely shaped rear, and very pretty eyes. Her massage services were fairly standard, but she was certainly fine to look at. I definitely recommend her to those guys willing to risk a visit to this venue of recent notoriety (not that I believe any of those terrible rumors floating about).

Can't tell if it is "Dallin" or "Darling" but she is sure a little peice of happy therapy. :D

Zhuxi

MassLover
02-05-07, 18:14
You won't get BJ or FS or any of the varieties, but you will get an excellent massage from one of a couple very skilled gals who know how to work the muscles and the joints. Agree with you, I go to AO at Sterling instead, which is closer to me and offer legit and excellent massage.

Jake Jj 1492
02-05-07, 21:41
Can't tell if it is "Dallin" or "Darling" but she is sure a little peice of happy therapy. :D

Zhuxi

Think it may be Darlene...

Zoomster
02-05-07, 21:54
Can't tell if it is "Dallin" or "Darling" but she is sure a little peice of happy therapy. :D

Zhuxi

She actually tried to spell it out for me. I remember two letter L's and that there were six letters. This probably means nothing, considering her poor English. Not that it matters - her other talents more than compensated.

BigTigger
02-06-07, 00:19
I'm sure it's the same one I met with, how 'bout we call her "D".. or "Double-D".. LOL


She actually tried to spell it out for me. I remember two letter L's and that there were six letters. This probably means nothing, considering her poor English. Not that it matters - her other talents more than compensated.

Jake Jj 1492
02-06-07, 10:07
I'm sure it's the same one I met with, how 'bout we call her "D".. or "Double-D".. LOL

See, now I have to find out for myself guys. Guess I have to squeeze in some time for a massagi with D., Dee, Darlene, Dallin, Darling, Daylene, Dolly, Dahli Lama, whatever she goes by...

Speaking of that, I can't help but wonder: If a girl has multiple personalities, are you expected to satisfy them all? If not, won't the other personalities get jealous?

Big Daddy Don
02-06-07, 22:16
Went by the old haunt today to try and catch the "D" girl that everyone has been talking about. Ended up with the "J" girl (Jenni, Jenna..something). Nice little waif. Young and cute with what I would have sworn were misquito bites on her chest but since it is winter I will give her the benefit of the doubt and call them breasts. Cute little size 2 or smaller butt.

Gave a great massage with the back walk and brisk hand work. Very relaxing. Good thorough TS, got everything that was needed double. Her age (young) and lack of experience showed through on the rest of the performance. A short but genuine AR. She didn't have the secret cover application down but had enthusiasm with the BJ. I guess someone else pounded the crap out of her earlier because she was not into the DATY. She seemed over sensative or sore (I suspect sore...) The rest went well.

Would repeat but would like to try the rest of the line up first.

10 for young and cute
7s for the rest.

Jake Jj 1492
02-07-07, 17:14
Any info?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ers/274723630.html

Any Mouse
02-07-07, 18:25
Any info?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ers/274723630.htmlJj,

This is the old Mykonos. Ad is new, unless they have changed in the last week, the ladies are not. Normal DC level service is available.

Jet Ranger
02-08-07, 06:18
Any info?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ers/274723630.html
They recently raised their house fee to $70.00. Based on past experience, don't expect the quality of the girls to match what was found at HWC. Hopefully the ad is accurate and they really did get a "new young staff."

Up until now, Star survived in Fairfax County by flying under the radar and being invisible. I was very surprised that such a graphic ad appeared on Craig's List. The place must have recently changed owners. I imagine it will only be a matter of time before Fairfax County LE pays them a visit.

The last time I was there was shortly after the HWC raid and the chubby girl demanded more than the standard tip, which was a real turn off. That never happened to me at HWC. Occasionally, there were girls at Star comparable to what you'd expect at HWC and the girl in the photo in the ad below. PM me for more details if interested.

Wayward One
02-08-07, 21:36
They recently raised their house fee to $70.00. Based on past experience, don't expect the quality of the girls to match what was found at HWC. Hopefully the ad is accurate and they really did get a "new young staff."

Up until now, Star survived in Fairfax County by flying under the radar and being invisible. I was very surprised that such a graphic ad appeared on Craig's List. The place must have recently changed owners. I imagine it will only be a matter of time before Fairfax County LE pays them a visit.

.

Mamasan and staff did NOT place this ad. it is not accurate and it is exactly the type of crap that will get them a visit. management has not changed.

wayward one

Jake Jj 1492
02-08-07, 22:00
Mamasan and staff did NOT place this ad. it is not accurate and it is exactly the type of crap that will get them a visit. management has not changed.

wayward one

Guess it's best to proceed with extra caution...

Dlrzboy
02-08-07, 22:14
The bogus ad makes you wonder if someone is trying to set them up for undeserved scrutiny. In Howard County, MD, there was a behind the scenes struggle to push out the independent AMPS. LE and Health officials started puching checks on the AMPs which were not cooperating with another AMP chain. This can be an ugly business. But so many of the girls are so nice, in tough situations. Be Careful!

Jake Jj 1492
02-08-07, 22:55
A few months back somebody posted very descriptive, graphic ads on CL for another place In Springfield.

The rumor after the fact was a former employee was trying to get the heat on them...even though they were a legitimate massage establishment. Never was substantiated, but believable explanation.

Competition and disgruntled former employees can do major damage. It's too bad...because, you're right, these are people's lives that are effected.


Be safe guys...
jj.

Jet Ranger
02-09-07, 06:20
Mamasan and staff did NOT place this ad. it is not accurate and it is exactly the type of crap that will get them a visit. management has not changed.

wayward oneThanks for the confirmation. I do have to say that after the Washingtonian magazine published its article that described DC AMPs and included a photo of the entrance to Sun, I was surprised to find classified ads in a recent issue for Supra in DC and Star in Springfield. Of course, the Washingtonian AMP ads, though prominent for classified ads, were well done, tasteful, and one definitely would not get the impression that anything amiss is going on there solely by reading them.

In any event, the CL ad is damaging, regardless of whether it is bogus or not. I do feel sorry for Star's mamasan and staff, but at the same time, my empathy is tempered by the fact that about 50 percent of the times I visited Star, the providers there either tried to haggle for more than the standard tip or shortchanged me on time. As a result, I moved my business south about 10 miles where the service was superior, far more consistent, and I never had to negotiate tips in advance.

Jake Jj 1492
02-09-07, 10:53
Thanks for the confirmation. I do have to say that after the Washingtonian magazine published its article that described DC AMPs and included a photo of the entrance to Sun, I was surprised to find classified ads in a recent issue for Supra in DC and Star in Springfield. Of course, the Washingtonian AMP ads, though prominent for classified ads, were well done, tasteful, and one definitely would not get the impression that anything amiss is going on there solely by reading them.

I missed the Washingtonian article. Is it the current issue?

Go Slow
02-09-07, 11:42
I missed the Washingtonian article. Is it the current issue?JJ,

It was a full report on DC AMPs and escorts and was in the DEC 2005 Issue.

Wayward One
02-10-07, 02:58
This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from November 2006 to December 2006.

Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.

Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)

* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.

Previous Update - 11/9/06 - Wayward One (July to Oct06)


2006's Reviews
==============


HWC (116)
===
Connie - 12/19/06 - Jkimva (?)
Busted/news - 12/14/06 - Jet ranger :(
Lucy - 12/8/06 - Novaflow (+)
Lucy - 12/7/06 - MoonView (+)
Lucy - 12/6/06 - BMajor (+)
Lucy - 12/5/06 - Vamonger (+)
Sasha - 12/4/06 - Digger2 (+)
Joanne - 12/2/06 - Mustang946 (+)
sasha - 12/2/06 - Novaflow (+)
Sasha - 11/29/06 - Ampfreq (+)
Sasha - 11/27/06 - Dlrzboy (+)
Joanne - 11/27/06 - Novaflow (+)
Sasha - 11/24/06 - Ampfreq (+)
Mina - 11/20/06 - Digger2 (+)
Joyce - 11/17/06 - Saiyen (?)
Lucy - 11/16/06 - Pcpc1688 (?)
Mina - 11/15/06 - BouncermanJ (+)
Cherry - 11/10/06 - Jag65 (+)
Cherry - 11/9/06 - Zhuxi (+)
Mina - 11/8/06 - Novaflow (+)
Cherry - 11/7/06 - Big Daddy Don (?)



Sakura (50)
======
Maya - 12/29/06 - Dlrzboy (-)
BB - 12/17/06 - Benefactor9 (+)
Tammi - 12/13/06 - Digger2 (?)
Sue/coco - 12/12/06 - Telcova (+)
May - 12/6/06 - dave GD (-)
Coco - 11/20/06 - Telcova (+)
tani - 11/19/06 - Dlrzboy (+)
Coco - 11/18/06 - Mong678 (?)
Sue - 11/10/06 - Sleazebum (+)
Sue - 11/10/06 - Mong678 (+)
Coco - 11/9/06 - Zhuxi (+)


Kinja (13)
=====
June - 12/12/06 - Big daddy Don (-)
june - 12/2/06 - benefactor9 (+)
June - 11/20/06 - Go Slow (-)
Pink - 11/17/06 - Zhuxi (?)
Kelly - 11/14/06 - Zhuxi (+)
June - 11/10/06 - Big Daddy don (+)
June - 11/9/06 - Zhuxi (+)
nana - 11/7/06 - Dlrzboy (+)


A-O (12)
===
Tina - 12/30/06 - Pcpc1688 (?)HJ
Susan - 12/28/06 - Fatpig (?)
Susan - 12/28/06 - sushi Boy (?)HJ
Sophie - 12/11/06 - Novaflow (-) no love
??? - 12/10/06 - Masslover - no love
Wendy - 12/9/06 - The Speaker (+) HJ
Wendy - 11/30/06 - Pcpc1688 (+)
Wendy - 11/28/06 - Wayward One (+)


Magical touch (8)
=============
Amy - 12/3/06 - Sleazebum (+)
Amy - 11/6/06 - Randy farang (+)
Directions - 11/6/06 - Randy farang
Amy - 11/2/06 - Zhuxi (+)


Smile (Soo-Goung) (7)
=================
Kelly - 11/24/06 - Superman06 (?)
Cindy - 11/21/06 - Kich Man (+)
Minah - 11/9/06 - Love AMPS (+)
Cindy - 11/2/06 - Kich Man (+)


Enjoy (2)
=====
??? - 12/4/06 - Roamin roman (-)
??? - 11/30/06 - Parachute 06 (+)


Backlick (4)
========
Linda - 11/20/06 - fatpig (-)HJ


K (3)
=
Sunny - 11/26/06 - fatpig (+)


Youngs (5)
======
Kim - 12/1/06 - Original gster (-)


Chinese condos (6)
==============
??? - 12/27/06 - Sleazebum (-)


Eva Therapy (2)
===========
Penny - 12/10/06 - Jim Rob (-)


Bodywork treatment (2)
==================
??? - 11/16/06 - L Knit (-)


Best (1)
====
Young - 11/25/06 - Kluvr (+)HJ


Tyco (1)
====
Jenny - 11/28/06 - wayward One (?)HJ


A+ (1)
===
??? - 12/29/06 - Zoomster (-)


Golden Palms?
=============
directions - 11/28/06 - L Knit



Angel therapeutic (2)
=================
no new reports this period.

Port Royal (1)
==========
no new reports this period.

Soft touch (TK therapeutic) (4)
===========================
no new reports this period.

IVY (1)
===
no new reports this period.

Maxim (1)
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no new reports this period.

Moonlight Spa (LMP) (1)
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no new reports this period.

SWC (songs wellness center)(1)
===============================
no new reports this period.

Sunstar (1)
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no new reports this period.

Star (4)
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no new reports this period.

Comfort Therapy (4)
===============
no new reports this period.

A-1 (3)
===
no new reports this period.

Little River Spa (3)
================
no new reports this period.










Closed Locations
================

Champions (4)
=========
boarded up - 8/10/06 - dlrzboy

Ginko
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Shut down? Eviction notice posted ? - 1/12/06 - Gulliver :(

Oriental Therapy
================
It's a pizza parlor now - 9/27/06 - wayward one


Kims (2)
====


Wayward One

All described acts should be read as interactive fiction.

Fresh Water
02-10-07, 04:45
Hello. I've been reading the posts to figure out where the best place would be.

My history:

Lily's Spa (only HJ)
Supra Spa (the best of the 3) May was soooooo nice 3 months back.
21 Therapists (Rainbow Spa) (lady was too old for my taste)

I'm looking into going back to Supra, but it seems like HWC and Sakura is the way to go. I only visit once a month and would like to get my $'s worth. I could not find any information 'bout HWC anywhere! Could somebody send me a PM that includes the address & fees. I'm thinking $60 for mamasan and $100 for fs. I'd like to go early in the morning so that I'll beat the rush hour.

Please respond! Thank you!!!

Vamonger
02-10-07, 11:34
Drove by last night and while the 'Open' neon sign was not lit, I did notice lights and curtains indicating some life. Went up to the window and through the curtain saw a young Asian girls from the back talking to a brother looking at a computer. So looks like this Rte 28 tanning facility may be back in business just in time to get a little color during these cold, sunless NOVA days.

VAM

Zoomster
02-10-07, 13:11
Drove by last night and while the 'Open' neon sign was not lit, I did notice lights and curtains indicating some life. Went up to the window and through the curtain saw a young Asian girls from the back talking to a brother looking at a computer. So looks like this Rte 28 tanning facility may be back in business just in time to get a little color during these cold, sunless NOVA days.

VAM

Time to work on my tan.

Jim Rob
02-11-07, 01:21
why did they shut down last time?

Havin Fun
02-11-07, 09:51
Got my nerve up and visited H yesterday. It was hard going back after recent events. Saw gina, service was as normal and a good time was had by all. Although she seemed a little rushed it wasnt bad. Trusted can PM.

Xooom
02-11-07, 19:42
Stopped by the H and pulled the "J" girl recently. Nice to look at, says she is 24, not much on top but very pretty and a great bod otherwise. Good TS, but the massage was over before it started. Which was a shame because of the earlier posts who said she gave a great massage with back walk I was looking forward to it. The rest of the time she was very enthusastic and very talented. It was a fine visit until another custumer stopped by and was making a commotion with mamason. That put a damper on the rest but the ending was still enjoyable. Still wondering about D, may have to get back before she leaves.

9 for looks.

7s for the rest.

Bumble
02-11-07, 23:00
Post listed a few new places including Cosmos in Centreville! Anybody have any intel? If not, I might just have to TOFTT since it is right in my neighborhood.

There was a guy a few months back asking for suggestions on where to open a new AMP in Fairfax Co. Wonder if this is the place?

Jag

Vamonger
02-11-07, 23:34
why did they shut down last time?
I believe they did have a 'bust' as somehow PWC thought they were doing more than tanning.... Then they had a bad fire that gutted the place. Looks like they totally re-did everything, at least from the outside.

VAM

Zoomster
02-12-07, 16:05
I believe they did have a 'bust' as somehow PWC thought they were doing more than tanning.... Then they had a bad fire that gutted the place. Looks like they totally re-did everything, at least from the outside.

VAMThe chain-smoking fat guy at the desk in the lobby probably started the fire by accident.

Crazy Jim Wood
02-13-07, 12:22
The reports of busts have been giving me the willies, but I was reaching terminal sperm buildup the other day so I visited TK. My provider, let's call her M, has a well established routine, but her teasing was a little too effective given the tension that I was experiencing and I caught her by surprise with a fire hydrant-like dousing before the programmed release, squirting her in the eye and spraying love juice all over the acupressure poster they always seem to have hanging on the wall at these places.

Good times, good times.

CJW

Max Beelyun
02-13-07, 12:38
Lily's Spa (only HJ)
Supra Spa (the best of the 3) May was soooooo nice 3 months back.
21 Therapists (Rainbow Spa) (lady was too old for my taste)

I'm looking into going back to Supra, but it seems like HWC and Sakura is the way to go. ... I'm thinking $60 for mamasan and $100 for fs. I'd like to go early in the morning so that I'll beat the rush hour.If Supra is near to you, then you might also like 14K (1413 K). I haven't been to the other places you mentioned. The pricing sounds about right to me.

Fatpig
02-15-07, 17:02
Went to Honto this week Around 5ish but very busy. Door bell kept ringing. I got Tina who I seen before and is always good to me. No TS at Honto. So right to the massage. She is good at it. She gives deep tissue massage and it hurts at first but is nice after the knots out. No AR and not alot of misc wandering that I like so much. On the flip side she has great hand technique. I wish every girl has the same touch. In the end I was happy all around with normal tip for said services.

Honto looks run down. The room I was in smelled of sweat and just funky. Tina is getting long in the tooth and gaining some belly weight. She gives great massage and great personality.

looks 6
massage 8
misc 8

On a side note I see Tyco Rd is opened now. I will have to check that place out and give you all a low down in 2 weeks when my pain comes back.

The Speaker
02-17-07, 02:21
Is Kinga spa still open? Have not heard anything for sometime now.

Mong678
02-19-07, 07:08
I will say this: When I first ventured out and started to visit the AMPs I sometimes thought "maybe this is too much $ to be spending". But I continued on for obvious reasons.

Well since all of the recent problems in WB, I have tried a number of therapists that are on CL. I now see the value of the 160 of the AMPS! As I have said before I am new to this (about 6 months) and boy have I learned alot. I will never think that 160 is too much. Not after some of the picutre altering, neurotic, overpriced, too many phone calls to make an appointment, half assed, long drive to a hotel, girls I have met lately.

Boy I miss Sue.

Anyone with any info on Sakura? Please PM me if so.

Sleazebum
02-19-07, 17:01
Has anyone been to MT lately? Is it still there?

Please reply via back channel, just in case.

JJ

L Knit
02-20-07, 09:50
Was driving by the old champions on 28 last night, saw the open sign on in the window but no sign yet on the building. went in and rang the bell, Very cute girl opened door took me to the room, and then shower. All nice and new, rooms still very small but everything looking nice and new. Had a very nice session, PM for info. Girl said dont know what the name is going to be yet.

Jim Rob
02-20-07, 21:43
Like many that return from retirement only to fail. I said I wouldn't go to anymore AMP's because of all the heat. Well I figure what the hell, Cosmos is new and I should check it out. Don't waste your time. The provider (WONDERFUL), don't let the name fool you, she's a real *****. She's mean the entire time and just a real C word. Well I didn't even want to tip her I was so mad. I wanted to give her 25, but she nagged for 30. I hope's she could read my body language and attitude that I was pissed. It did start well, but that only lasted a minute.

I wanted to walk out so bad, but I tried to just get finished and figure I was out the money, might as well try. I'm so depressed now. I TOFT guys please avoid this place

Hugh Jardon
02-20-07, 23:23
JR,

Once in a while, you find one like that. I went to one many years ago in Glen Burnie, that after about 15 minutes of a really crappy massage, I just got up and left. The girl was such a downer that I just wanted to be out of sight of her.

The internet helps a lot in finding things out, just as your report has helped out many mongers in the near future. Expensive lesson, but WTF, it's only money, right?

MoonView
02-21-07, 14:38
Took the advise of a fellow brethren and hit this spot this morning. It is open and it is newly redone, the fit&finish work seems a little sub par but I digress.

New mamasan seemed friendly, the door guard guy made himself barely noticeable...and off I was to my room.

The rooms are comfortable but small, cosy if you will. The shower worked well, plenty of hot water and oddly enough a rather large table(I see potential) for 2.

So far all was to my liking!

My massage therapist was another story entirely. My first encounter yielded not the best of picks(not even a hint of GFE). She seemed barely interested in the event. TS lacked any deep cleaning, or any cleaning at all in ANY right places for that matter. The massage, if I can be so bold to call it one, lack any enthusiasm and was over in about 5 mins. The main event was pretty much the same as what preceded it(i.e., a blow-up doll would have been more fun)....PMs welcome for name unveiling. :eek:


In any event, with the right staff choice(my understanding is there are currently 3 to pick from), this could be a place I can call home. :p


MnV

Silver Tongue
02-21-07, 22:42
Is Kinga spa still open? Have not heard anything for sometime now.Drove by Kinja tonight. There is a for sale sign in front of the building and no lights on. So probably not open anymore.

R Dog 05
02-22-07, 08:42
Anyone been to Ana Visage Spa lately?

Let me know.

Zhuxi
02-22-07, 13:57
Took the advise of a fellow brethren and hit this spot this morning. It is open and it is newly redone, the fit&finish work seems a little sub par but I digress.

New mamasan seemed friendly, the door guard guy made himself barely noticeable...and off I was to my room.

The rooms are comfortable but small, cosy if you will. The shower worked well, plenty of hot water and oddly enough a rather large table(I see potential) for 2.

So far all was to my liking!

My massage therapist was another story entirely. My first encounter yielded not the best of picks(not even a hint of GFE). She seemed barely interested in the event. TS lacked any deep cleaning, or any cleaning at all in ANY right places for that matter. The massage, if I can be so bold to call it one, lack any enthusiasm and was over in about 5 mins. The main event was pretty much the same as what preceded it(i.e., a blow-up doll would have been more fun)....PMs welcome for name unveiling. :eek:


In any event, with the right staff choice(my understanding is there are currently 3 to pick from), this could be a place I can call home. :p


MnV

Looks like I might have to test the waters!

Zhuxi

Zhuxi
02-22-07, 13:59
Has anyone been to MT lately? Is it still there?

Please reply via back channel, just in case.

JJMT was closed last week. Sadly.

Zhuxi

Mustang946
02-22-07, 14:45
MT was closed last week.. Sadly.

ZhuxiMT was open on Friday afternoon. It was very slow according to the therapist on duty.

Dafrigginman
02-22-07, 17:33
You guys should check out the AMP on 5th & G. Anytime that I go the lineup is stellar and they always have a nice selection to choose from!

Sleazebum
02-22-07, 18:07
Soft Touch
8344 Trafford Lane #2
Springfield, VA
703-644-7474

Sunstar
8622-G Lee Hwy
Fairfax, VA
703-204-0230

Young's Spa
1880 Howard Ave, #202
Vienna, VA
703-506-0303

Cosmos Spa
5711 Centre Square Dr
Centreville, VA
703-266-8787

Little River Spa
7008-B Little River Turnpike
Annandale, VA
703-752-8900

Golden Palms & Accupressure
8619 Lee Hwy
Vienna, VA
703-615-3924

Enliven Therapy
8472-D Tyco Rd
Tysons Corner, VA
703-288-3851

Anyone been to any of these? Please back channel the details to me, if you will.

JJ

Vamonger
02-24-07, 22:15
Spent part of my Saturday afternoon at the H drawing Dallin (Dah-lynn). This 4' 11" spinner has mid back, wavy natural colored hair, a very cute face, enhanced C+ chest and one of the best bodies I've seen in a long time. Flawless skin and swimsuit model curves with proabably a 20" waist.

TS ok but nothing special. Dallin gave a pretty nice, strong massage that loosened things up. Dallin learned French from her Uncle Pierre in Paris and has a deep accent. Overall, very techincally proficient.

She was friendly, but not a GFE...kinda quiet overall. Started to give me a couple of "Come On's" at around 40-45mins, but nothing to kill the mood.

So if you want a very cute spinner with pretty good performance and killer body, Dallin is the one for you.

Overall

Looks: 8.5
Service: 7.75
Attitude: 7.0
Overall 8.0

VAM

Loopy De Loop
02-25-07, 08:45
The relative reports are in the DC area.


You guys should check out the AMP on 5th & G. Anytime that I go the lineup is stellar and they always have a nice selection to choose from!

Jake Jj 1492
02-25-07, 13:08
Spent part of my Saturday afternoon at the H drawing Dallin (Dah-lynn). This 4' 11" spinner has mid back, wavy natural colored hair, a very cute face, enhanced C+ chest and one of the best bodies I've seen in a long time. Flawless skin and swimsuit model curves with proabably a 20" waist.

VAM

I agree completely with your assessment VAM. Good report...and yes her boobs are NOT real...but they ARE spectacular.

Some times a second visit expands horizons...but not so much in her case. Although, taking the doggie for a walk is truly rewarding experience. Glad I brought my yo-yo so I could show her that trick!

Personally, I'm hoping I can survive a second massage from Gina.


Have fun in the snow guys!
jj.

Ampfreq
02-25-07, 17:10
JJ,

What's the big deal about surviving Gina? Did she "almost kill you" a phrase she used with me? Or are you talking about her back-walking technique? It's good for what ails you. I hope. I have seen her twice now and she makes me feel young and old at the same time. Invigorated but exhausted all the way around.

af

Jake Jj 1492
02-25-07, 18:08
JJ,

What's the big deal about surviving Gina?

af

"If I survive" was meant in the best possible way. She has a lot of energy and skills for a massage therapist... :-)

Sleazebum
02-25-07, 20:28
I go by "JJ", mainly because it is my name.

Perhaps when we respond to Jake, we could say "Jake"?

JJ

Jake Jj 1492
02-25-07, 20:51
I go by "JJ", mainly because it is my name.

Perhaps when we respond to Jake, we could say "Jake"?

JJ

Wait...Jake has four letters. Damn it! LOL

Mong678
02-25-07, 21:02
Any of you that have read my past posts know that I am kind of new here so you guys will know this place as Champions but I have come to know it by its new name.

I am hesitant to put too much info in a general posting with all the stuff going on lately but I will be happy to fill any Senior members in on my latest therapy session. Just PM me.

I will say this:
-new name
-remodled/clean
-new therapist, only three days on the job

All in all, VERY IMPRESSED.

PS-what's the concensus, should we be posting this info in the general forum or keep the details on the PMs?

BigTime3
02-25-07, 21:56
This is my first post, I have not been to MT in about 2 weeks but last time I was there, amy was gone and luby (or ruby, I don't know) was back from vacation in hawaii. Both say they live in hawaii and luby said amy was on vacation to hawaii. Have been to MT serveral times over the past few months, but it seemed luby was only one there becasue she had to tell someone to come back. I have seen others there in the past (not hot) and had to ask for luby or amy since it was not there turn. In previous visits, I have had 2 girls luby and joy (I think the manger. Not that hot) and luby and amy (now that was a party). Pretty $$s, $2. 2. Last time with luby was ok, the usual $1. 6. She kind of has attidude when you ask for different positions, like she wants you to finish. Amy gives great tounge work to the right parts and lets you take your time with multiple positions. Luby never comes back and gives you little massage (around your big head) after completing like amy did. Anyways, both are good, I like amy a little better than luby. I hope they did not close, plan on going there tomorrow to see, let you know what I find out.

Sleazebum
02-25-07, 23:59
Whatever works...I am not REAL picky about it.

JJ


Wait...Jake has four letters. Damn it! LOL

Any Mouse
02-26-07, 12:15
Big sign on. Open sign off. What the heck, gave it a try. Should have kept on going. Min answered the door and ushered me back to the room. Virtually no engrish in evidence, but got the house fee out of the way and back to the TS. Lots of sign language. Min is tiny, older, short, plain of face. Did I mention tiny. All over! TS was OK, nothing special. Back to the work-out room, and with no massage, ordered to flip. I did, to find Min already in work-out uniform. Not much interest, not much happening, just get it over! I did, and then out the door in under 30. Will wait a while before returning.

Looks: 6
Service: 4
Attitude: N/A
Overall: 5

Stay Safe,

AM

Go Slow
02-26-07, 13:21
Saw Dallin at the H. Steel cone implants.

Started whining about 10 minutes into exercise session- rushed me out in 35 minutes total. She needs a new occupation- as she is jaded. You mongers must have took no mercy on her since she started here about 4 weeks ago- she looks like she hates doing this.

Looks: 8/ Body: 8/ Service: 6/ Attitude: 4.0

Dabbler Too
02-26-07, 14:31
Hi all,

This is my first post. I'm a refugee from another site that is no longer any good (I am using the same screen name).

Anyway, last week I visited the very low-key ATMB in Arlington. I have been going here occasionally for years. The visits have ranged from excellent to lame, and the providers have ranged from young and hot to old and tired.

Last week's visit was one of the best. The provider was Jenny. I am not sure how much detail I should post, but for now I will say that if Jenny gets comfortable with you, she will make sure you are satisfied with your visit.

Perhaps some senior members can offer advice on the proper amount of detail, and I will provide same. Also, has anyone else had a session with Jenny?

Big Daddy Don
02-26-07, 17:19
Does anyonr know if this is the Jenny from H**? If so I am heading to Arlington!!!

"Last week's visit was one of the best. The provider was Jenny. I will say that if Jenny gets comfortable with you, she will make sure you are satisfied with your visit.

Also, has anyone else had a session with Jenny?"[/QUOTE]

MoonView
02-26-07, 17:57
Yes again, another great visit to this "new/old" place.

Reeled in a newbie, Michelle, 4th day on the job and she has not wasted any time getting acclimated to her new environment. I am happy to say techniques were "old school" and quite refereshing(e.g., her grip, control probably worked on for years, was unreal). Session lasted 3/4's of the allotted time but I was completely satisfied with the results*.

BTW she prefers the prepayment plan vs "the pay as you go/after method" so look for that nightstand beforehand, so as not to kill the mood after the session begins, but not to worry...compensate with confidence!

Classic looks, beautiful long black hair, all organic features...along with a great service attitude & willingness to please.



MnV

Disclaimer...No sex was invloved in this massage*

BigTime3
02-26-07, 18:19
Went to MT today, they are open. Saw Luby. Asked if Amy was there, she said no, don’t know when she is coming back. She then asked me if I wanted two girls (have done this before) because joy was there. I said too much $$$s. Had good TS with time well spent in the important areas. After TS, I told her if joy wanted to come and watch, I would finish sooner. Massage was good but a little short. During the massage I heard the door bell ring and another comrade. Joy answered the door. We flipped and started to get to business (FS) and just then joy opened the door and came in and started AR while I was busy attending to luby. Even though she kept her clothes on, I was roaming all over her and luby at the same time. Joy also roamed on luby. Well it did not take long for me to finish. I tipped her an extra. 40. I asked how business was and she said a little slow, have not advertised because of trouble with LE at other local AMPs. She said they have not had any trouble. I am reg here so thats why I think I got a little extra treatment. Anyways, overall good experience, but would still like to find and FS APM that gave a nice long massage (more than 10 min).

Later,

BT

Dudeman-12
02-26-07, 20:08
I agree with the previous posters. Overall a very satisfying session and was not disappointed.

Was treated very well by a very skilled staff person

Dudeman

Sleazebum
02-26-07, 22:45
I recognize that name!

That other site pretty much stinks nowadays, doesn't it.

WELCOME!!

JJ
AKA JungleJimBowie
AKA Sleazebum

Dlrzboy
02-27-07, 00:32
Champs burned out, and the new place--Yorkshire (?) Therapy is clean, bright and actually has hooks for clothes. Playing VERY LOW KEY so all the LE reading this site need to be nice. They do not want to cross the line and get in trouble. So, let's remember they are not providing unallowable services and the therapists are careful and their services and needs should be respected.

That said, my 5 sessions have been great. Michelle was almost as nice as Sue. Be good and stay safe and smart.

Zoomster
02-27-07, 02:26
Saw Dallin at the H. Steel cone implants.

Started whining about 10 minutes into exercise session- rushed me out in 35 minutes total. She needs a new occupation- as she is jaded. You mongers must have took no mercy on her since she started here about 4 weeks ago- she looks like she hates doing this.

Looks: 8/ Body: 8/ Service: 6/ Attitude: 4.0


Yeah, she didn't seem all that enthusiastic when I saw her a few weeks ago. I've found that the best sessions tend to come from the older, plainer-looking gals as opposed to the younger ones. The best therapy I ever received came from a downright homely girl at Sakura way back when I first began my therapeutic visits.

R Dog 05
02-27-07, 07:02
Finally made it to Ana Vs in Great Falls. Not bad. Nice place. Worth the money. Let me know if anyone else has been there.

Jake Jj 1492
02-27-07, 11:32
Saw Dallin at the H. Steel cone implants.

Started whining about 10 minutes into exercise session- rushed me out in 35 minutes total. She needs a new occupation- as she is jaded. You mongers must have took no mercy on her since she started here about 4 weeks ago- she looks like she hates doing this.

D. is a tough nut to crack. Great body and I've never had a bad time with her, but I can definitely see how she could rub some folks the wrong way. YMMV is definitely a factor here.

Dabbler Too
02-27-07, 13:12
I recognize that name!

That other site pretty much stinks nowadays, doesn't it.

Welcome!

JJ

AKA JungleJimBowie
AKA SleazebumYes, it does. It's useless now. Tis a pity. Thank god this great site is alive and well.

Go Slow
02-27-07, 13:16
Yeah, she didn't seem all that enthusiastic when I saw her a few weeks ago. I've found that the best sessions tend to come from the older, plainer-looking gals as opposed to the younger ones. The best therapy I ever received came from a downright homely girl at Sakura way back when I first began my therapeutic visits.I totally agree. I would pass on Dallin if your looking for some feeling in the session.

Prototype
02-27-07, 21:30
Not really a MP but looking for info. Was wondering if anyone here knows anything about the place in Tyson's Corner. Secret Temptation? They have a website just add . com They post ads on BD but I have not seen any intel on this place at all.

Vamonger
02-27-07, 23:11
Champs burned out, and the new place--Yorkshire (?) Therapy is clean, bright and actually has hooks for clothes. Playing VERY LOW KEY so all the LE reading this site need to be nice. They do not want to cross the line and get in trouble. So, let's remember they are not providing unallowable services and the therapists are careful and their services and needs should be respected.

That said, my 5 sessions have been great. Michelle was almost as nice as Sue. Be good and stay safe and smart.Was on 28 this a.m. and noticed that Yorkshire is actually the name of the little community where it is located (little green sign on the road way near CVS).

VAM

Jake Jj 1492
03-01-07, 19:43
I dozed off in traffic today and saw the weirdest thing in my dream. It was an eight-legged sea creature holding a neon sign above his head that said "OPEN".

Dlrzboy
03-02-07, 22:18
Met Hannah. She was wonderful. She started out as a fake, but we stopped that. Then she gave a tremendous therapy session. However, the shower was inop! Did not like the hygene status, but the little head told the big head that the sink was adequate if used a lot. Of course all this was all in line with PWC LE and health codes. Hope they stay open. But the Yorkshire session was better, and the facility was nicer.

The Web
03-03-07, 23:50
I've been reading up and may decide to pay one of these places a visit. My body's been aching and I need a good massage.

Where's (or what's) HWC? Any other good spots highly recommended?
And what's TS? (I'm a newbie)

Thanks!

TW

A John
03-04-07, 01:04
You might start off with the abbreviations section.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897

than I would suggest after you're familiar with that RTFF again.

Happy Hunting
AJ



I've been reading up and may decide to pay one of these places a visit. My body's been aching and I need a good massage.

Where's (or what's) HWC? Any other good spots highly recommended?
And what's TS? (I'm a newbie)

Thanks!

TW

Sleazebum
03-04-07, 09:52
I just read the abbreviations dictionary linked to via: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897

and found that TS means Transexual.

So as to reduce confusion, I think we all need to know that it ALSO means TABLE SHOWER where you lie on a table and the provider shampoos your body. If done correctly this can be the best part of the whole MP experience!

I believe that the majority of the time TS is seen in this forum that it means just that: TABLE SHOWER.

That is also NOT to say that a TS - Transexual experience would be a bad thing! I have never tried it, if anyone else has, please PM me and tell me all about it.

JJ

Crazy Jim Wood
03-04-07, 12:24
HWC is Health & Wellness Center (I think). A forum search will give you the address.

I've been reading up and may decide to pay one of these places a visit. My body's been aching and I need a good massage.

Where's (or what's) HWC? Any other good spots highly recommended?
And what's TS? (I'm a newbie)

Thanks!

TW

The Web
03-04-07, 12:33
I've read through a bunch of posts and could not find the locations.

I tried Googling them, but I'd need to know the zip code or town names.

Any help is greatly appreciated. [Email address deleted by Admin]

Thanks!

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!

Havin Fun
03-04-07, 13:49
Visited *** today and met a new girl K****, only 4 days. She is a cute little spinner and although she says she is new to the buisness, she left me satisfied completely. Seniors and trusted can PM for details. Also found out today is Gina's last day.

The Web
03-04-07, 22:27
Is it "illegal" for me to show up at one of these places for a massage or whatever happens next? Let's say I wanted to stop by, get my massage and ONLY the massage that I paid for. And if LE was to bust in, would they be able to charge me for anything?

Jet Ranger
03-05-07, 06:16
Is it "illegal" for me to show up at one of these places for a massage or whatever happens next? Let's say I wanted to stop by, get my massage and ONLY the massage that I paid for. And if LE was to bust in, would they be able to charge me for anything?I'm not a lawyer, but your question comes at an ironic time. The nine or so guys that were busted during the LE investigation and raid of the "old" HWC in December are scheduled to be in court this Friday, March 9th, according to the published article in the Potomac News that appeared after the December 2006 raid.

I don't know if those cases are still on the docket or it has been slipped to a later date, but I believe all of those guys were charged with "Frequenting a Bawdy House." I don't know how the prosecutor intends to try to prove this, but essentially that means that allegedly the guys went there knowing that they could get more than a massage. With all the reports about it on this board and others, combined with TV and print news about the raid, the "old" HWC certainly had quite a reputation. It will be interesting if the prosecutor tries to introduce USG reports about it into evidence to establish that the place had a reputation for giving more than massages. I'm not an attorney so I don't know what the precedents are for blog posts as evidence.

Of course, one guy who was pulled over for a "traffic stop" allegedly told LE everything, so maybe the prosecution will try to base everything on his testimony. There's a good chance he cut a deal with the prosecutor for them to go easy on him if he cooperated in the investigation. Perhaps at least one or more other guys were caught in the act during the raid. If LE found lots of used and unused condoms on the premises, that would certainly be damning evidence.

If you read my previous posts of the PWC code, even having your private parts exposed in a massage establishment (provider or customer) is a crime, so even if LE busts in and they don't catch you in the act, keep a towel close by, cover up quick, and hope the girl can flush a used condom down the toilet if there is time to do so.

Since HWC has now reopened, presumably under new management and ownership, I'm sure all of the services now offered there are totally legal and ethical. Any reports here to the contrary should be regarded as hearsay, misstatements, fabrications, and/or exagerrations unless proven otherwise.

If any of you guys have information about the court hearing scheduled for this week, please PM me.

Take care and be safe out there,

JR

Zhuxi
03-05-07, 14:55
I dozed off in traffic today and saw the weirdest thing in my dream. It was an eight-legged sea creature holding a neon sign above his head that said "OPEN".


Haha. I have to give you props for that one.

Zhuxi

Drew Park
03-05-07, 20:08
I'm not a lawyer, but your question comes at an ironic time. The nine or so guys that were busted during the LE investigation and raid of the "old" HWC in December are scheduled to be in court this Friday, March 9th, according to the published article in the Potomac News that appeared after the December 2006 raid.

Well, JR, why not take the day off and hang around the Prince William Court house. See who shows up and see what happens in court. Could be interesting and probably beats anything else you might have going on that day ;^)

Ride00
03-05-07, 22:06
You can check this web site, do a search for PWC and then the date in question and it gives the names of all involved.
http://208.210.219.132/vadistrict/select.jsp?court=

Sleazebum
03-05-07, 22:41
§ 18.2-347. Keeping, residing in or frequenting a bawdy place; "bawdy place" defined.

It shall be unlawful for any person to keep any bawdy place, or to reside in or at or visit, for immoral purposes, any such bawdy place. Each and every day such bawdy place shall be kept, resided in or visited, shall constitute a separate offense. In a prosecution under this section the general reputation of the place may be proved.

As used in this Code, "bawdy place" shall mean any place within or without any building or structure which is used or is to be used for lewdness, assignation or prostitution.

(Code 1950, §§ 18.1-195, 18.1-196; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15.)





You can cehck this web site, do a search for PWC and then the date in question and it gives the names of all involved.
http://208.210.219.132/vadistrict/select.jsp?court=

Sleazebum
03-05-07, 22:43
§ 18.2-350. Confinement of convicted prostitutes and persons violating §§ 18.2-347 through 18.2-349.

Every person convicted of being a prostitute and every person convicted of violating any of the provisions of §§ 18.2-347 through 18.2-349 shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor; provided, however, that in any case in which a city or county farm or hospital is available for the confinement of persons so convicted, confinement may be in such farm or hospital, in the discretion of the court or judge.

(Code 1950, § 18.1-199; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15.)





§ 18.2-347. Keeping, residing in or frequenting a bawdy place; "bawdy place" defined.

It shall be unlawful for any person to keep any bawdy place, or to reside in or at or visit, for immoral purposes, any such bawdy place. Each and every day such bawdy place shall be kept, resided in or visited, shall constitute a separate offense. In a prosecution under this section the general reputation of the place may be proved.

As used in this Code, "bawdy place" shall mean any place within or without any building or structure which is used or is to be used for lewdness, assignation or prostitution.

(Code 1950, §§ 18.1-195, 18.1-196; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15.)

Sleazebum
03-05-07, 22:50
§ 18.2-11. Punishment for conviction of misdemeanor.

The authorized punishments for conviction of a misdemeanor are:

(a) For Class 1 misdemeanors, confinement in jail for not more than twelve months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.

(b) For Class 2 misdemeanors, confinement in jail for not more than six months and a fine of not more than $1,000, either or both.

(c) For Class 3 misdemeanors, a fine of not more than $500.

(d) For Class 4 misdemeanors, a fine of not more than $250.

For a misdemeanor offense prohibiting proximity to children as described in subsection A of § 18.2-370.2, the sentencing court is authorized to impose the punishment set forth in subsection B of that section in addition to any other penalty provided by law.

(1975, cc. 14, 15; 1990, c. 788; 2000, c. 770.)






§ 18.2-350. Confinement of convicted prostitutes and persons violating §§ 18.2-347 through 18.2-349.

Every person convicted of being a prostitute and every person convicted of violating any of the provisions of §§ 18.2-347 through 18.2-349 shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor; provided, however, that in any case in which a city or county farm or hospital is available for the confinement of persons so convicted, confinement may be in such farm or hospital, in the discretion of the court or judge.

(Code 1950, § 18.1-199; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15.)

Jet Ranger
03-06-07, 06:19
You can check this web site, do a search for PWC and then the date in question and it gives the names of all involved.
http://208.210.219.132/vadistrict/select.jsp?court=Thanks. A quick search revealed the alleged mamasan of the "old" HWC has been in court twice already and at least one of the alleged customers was in court in January.

The take away is that this is definitely one list you don't want your name on. Even if you can beat the rap, the humiliation, cost, and time spent to defend yourself against the charges is substantial.

Ride00
03-06-07, 09:28
Thanks. A quick search revealed the alleged mamasan of the "old" HWC has been in court twice already and at least one of the alleged customers was in court in January.

The take away is that this is definitely one list you don't want your name on. Even if you can beat the rap, the humiliation, cost, and time spent to defend yourself against the charges is substantial.Straight and to the point, in a nutshell that tells the pros and cons of this hobby. All of this a result (according to this board) of someone not exercising their Fifth Amendment right. Oh yea, but he was thinking with his little head wasn't he?

Dubliner
03-09-07, 18:44
Okay Gents I need your help. Firstly I am new to this forum. I have been all over Beltsville and Laurel, but it's a hastle getting over there from NOVA. Now that that's over I am going to ask you for your kind assistance. I have been frequenting "K" for the past couple of months and am getting a bit tired of A and S. Not much selection. Question 1, What time is the best to visit. I can usually only make it in the afternoon. Question 2: Is "Best" worth a visit? I have heard very negative reports.

While I'm at it, here's a report on K
As far as I know it's HJ only no FS

A is older but gives an incredible massage
Decent enough body
Let's you roam
Good technique
Left wishing I had someone younger and prettier but fully satisfied with my massage

S is much younger but much more rushed
Nicer body
Much nicer tatas
Will let you roam up to a point
Left feeling like I had been rushed, but wanting more

Cya,
Dubliner


Hello. I've been reading the posts to figure out where the best place would be.

My history:

Lily's Spa (only HJ)
Supra Spa (the best of the 3) May was soooooo nice 3 months back.
21 Therapists (Rainbow Spa) (lady was too old for my taste)

I'm looking into going back to Supra, but it seems like HWC and Sakura is the way to go. I only visit once a month and would like to get my $'s worth. I could not find any information 'bout HWC anywhere! Could somebody send me a PM that includes the address & fees. I'm thinking $60 for mamasan and $100 for fs. I'd like to go early in the morning so that I'll beat the rush hour.

Please respond! Thank you!!!

Ride00
03-09-07, 19:47
You can check this web site, do a search for PWC and then the date in question and it gives the names of all involved.
http://208.210.219.132/vadistrict/select.jsp?court=It seems that most of the cases were continued today. I suspect it was just an advisement hearing. More than likely we the tax payers will be paying for their defense.

Omeyer
03-10-07, 20:07
Kinja property is for sale.
I drove by this afternoon and a realty sign is out front.

Around the corner Sakura's "open" sign is glowing again.

Mark Bellows
03-11-07, 00:11
I've been to Kinja several times and have been satisfied with the service. It would have been my AMP of choice, but I see that it's now closed. I've also been to the Magical Touch once on Old Bridge. It was an alright HJ with no roaming, unless I would have specified before. She said it would be ok if I had had a glove on. Can someone send me a PM with the locations of some other AMP's or RMP's in the NOVA area. I'd appreciate the heads up. Thanks.

MB

Rt For Me
03-12-07, 18:40
O. K. , my first post. I just found this board as I was surfing and trying to find a good AMP. I recently spent over four years in K and enjoyed the services there. I am new to this area and am looking to satisfy that old itch. I would appreciate any PM's that can point me in the right direction. Thanks for the help!

Dlrzboy
03-12-07, 21:42
Michelle was a 10, across the board, but has flown away. Too bad! Met with Honey the other day. Great English, but so what. She has great theraputic skills, but rather mechanical throughout. Would probably repeat, but would take a chance on another provider if available. Be safe--and Uncle LEO, nothing happened out of sorts.

Drew Park
03-13-07, 07:51
I recently spent over four years in K and enjoyed the services there. I am new to this area and am looking to satisfy that old itch. I would appreciate any PM's that can point me in the right direction.

Well, if you spent four years overseas, then you can spend a few hours reviewing this forum because everything you need to know is right here.

Blind Lefty
03-16-07, 03:16
Was wondering where to find more info on Yorkshire Therapy? Reports of Sakura and my joint HWC aren't enticing and am looking to expand my horizons. (and before my little head convinces me it's worth trying S or H).

MoonView
03-16-07, 13:42
This is your very first post; "Sakura & HWC(your joints) aren't enticing enough"! So you need info about York....hmmm.

Well dude you are all wrong(pun?), York is a massage only place, no sexual favors are offered. I'd suggest you hit the old joints for that.

Now pardon me while I get back to my BACON & eggs!

MnV


Was wondering where to find more info on Yorkshire Therapy? Reports of Sakura and my joint HWC aren't enticing and am looking to expand my horizons. (and before my little head convinces me it's worth trying S or H).

BC appreciated at blind_lefty(at)safe-mail.net. Tried to RTFF but only find rt 28, near CVS, community named Yorkshire and I don't know where that is. Will happily report back my experience.

Dlrzboy
03-16-07, 18:47
York was harrassed by LE as Champs. New owner seems to want to ensure there is not a repeat of the old problems, and is going to make sure it can stay open. Very clean and nice. Try it for a good relaxing session, but they will not cross the line for you or LE.

Benchseats Rock
03-16-07, 20:15
This is your very first post; "Sakura & HWC(your joints) aren't enticing enough"! So you need info about York....hmmm.

Well dude you are all wrong(pun?), York is a massage only place, no sexual favors are offered. I'd suggest you hit the old joints for that.

Now pardon me while I get back to my BACON & eggs!! :eek:

MnVMnV,

You're such a gentleman... we need members like you. Mostly because I don't have nearly as much of a filter between my brain and my fingers.

Blind Lefty is either a fucking moron, or a fucking cop. IMHO, of course.

I remember waiting in line to see Phantom Menace with some friends, and the line wrapped all the way around the block and up a residential street - and the cops were doing their best to maintain calm and order in the crowd. Eventually they started towing cars from the lot across from some of the houses we were camped in front of - and they ended up towing this old Doctor's car. We knew he was a doctor because we were infront of his house, and there was a sign that said Doctor's Office. We knew it was his car because he came running out the front door in his bathrobe cursing to high heaven that the cops were towing his car, and not one of ours.
Naturally, the whole crowd starts to shout and scream and plead the Doctor's case to the cops - who pulled out a megaphone and guess what he said.

"If you all don't shut up right now I'm going to arrest you for enticing a riot."

Lefty, go have a donut.

Benchseats Rock

Dubliner
03-17-07, 00:35
A quick report on my dissapointing visit to Best this evening.

K was too busy, so I made the fatal mistake of going around the corner. Agh!

To cut a long story short, I will never go there again. Firstly the quality is lower than I am used to (if you know what I mean), Garlic Breath!!, Second rate massage, I guess the HR was half-decent, Unhappy about tip, Almost asked for the water back!!!

(Provider: Hanna)

Never again!

It's K for me from now on (or the highway).

MoonView
03-17-07, 11:03
MnV,

You're such a gentleman... we need members like you. Mostly because I don't have nearly as much of a filter between my brain and my fingers.

Blind Lefty is either a fucking moron, or a fucking cop. IMHO, of course.

I remember waiting in line to see Phantom Menace with some friends, and the line wrapped all the way around the block and up a residential street - and the cops were doing their best to maintain calm and order in the crowd. Eventually they started towing cars from the lot across from some of the houses we were camped in front of - and they ended up towing this old Doctor's car. We knew he was a doctor because we were infront of his house, and there was a sign that said Doctor's Office. We knew it was his car because he came running out the front door in his bathrobe cursing to high heaven that the cops were towing his car, and not one of ours.
Naturally, the whole crowd starts to shout and scream and plead the Doctor's case to the cops - who pulled out a megaphone and guess what he said.

"If you all don't shut up right now I'm going to arrest you for enticing a riot."

Lefty, go have a donut.

Benchseats Rock


Hey Benchseats Rock...

Thanks for the complement brother, and remember we're all in this together! I like to think there's a little "Bench" in all of us! :cool:

MnV

NcMgr
03-18-07, 08:11
Sign was lit up so I had a little Candy yesterday. Older, not a spinner, but very good TS and went above and beyond to please this old boy.

Bumble
03-18-07, 23:47
Didn't see much about the new AMP in my neighborhood, so I thought I'd TOFTT. Cosmo opened recently and according to the therapist hasn't been doing much business. The place is clean and well appointed. Even the TS was spotless. The service, however, was purely therapeutic. Though the massage was excellent and the TS was promising, I did not leave fully satisfied.

Rates were. 8 for an hour with TS (actually had more than an hour), or. 6 for half hour without TS. A bit pricy compared to local rates. For the excellent massage, I tipped the therapist, Nana? , a generous pair of Jacksons.

Don't expect they'll be open long unless they get with the program, lower their rate, and get some better referrals. You won't stumble across this place as the "street" it's on is actually just a parking lot.

Jag

Blind Lefty
03-19-07, 01:41
This is your very first post; "Sakura & HWC(your joints) aren't enticing enough"! So you need info about York....hmmm.

Well dude you are all wrong(pun?), York is a massage only place, no sexual favors are offered. I'd suggest you hit the old joints for that.

Now pardon me while I get back to my BACON & eggs!

MnVGod I love it. You're right, you caught me. I can't figure out the amazingly complex subterfuge going on here. So as a dedicated member of the LE community I tried to pass myself off as a fellow monger. I miss one reference to champs in an earlier post and try to find some help here (aren't we here to help each other? ) and I'm instantly LE. (an LEO would have access to all business licenses and be able to pull up every address in the state without blinking) Oh yeah and I only asked for location information; no desire for anything else. Thanks Dlrzboy btw; the champs reference was all I needed, I know that address.

Does anyone here live under the delusion that LE doesn't know the exact location and activities that go on in every AMP that has a legal shingle out? Raids/busts don't happen because LE found out about a place doing business. They happen when elections are coming, budgets are being reviewed, locals call in complaints, departments need good press to offset bad, the press brings too much attention to a certain issue, etc. The cops don't give a crap about this; they have better things to do (in their own mind and in truth). We all know this.

I doubt there are any that could vouch for me here. If I ever had people to vouch for me it would have been on TBD and I was never an active poster even in my heyday anyway. Hell their archive doesn't even go back far enough to catch any of my reviews on the public board there. There may be some here that recognize my tag from the old days (JJB? ) but certainly not that know me well enough to vouch for me. I came here because I'm now more of a dcspa board type and that board over there is now less than useless.

And sexual favors? Jeez, I don't know what you guys go to massage parlors for, but personally my neck is killing me (isn't your neck your "little head"? ).

Not that it matters; I don't care what you think and my usage of this board will continue to be what it's always been. Lurking and gleaning what I can, when I can, to use when my neck acts up. My mongering has always been spontaneous and unpredictable (why I'm more of a spa side type now); I'd head to my normal spots and/or check the board before heading out. I'd happily post my findings as my way of giving back to the community for responding to a question (otherwise normally I'd go about my business quietly) but if it wasn't for Dlrzboy I don't think I could say I've been given any support here.

Return to your regularly scheduled programming. I'm going to go get me some of those donuts and bacon.

MoonView
03-19-07, 16:55
God I love it. You're right, you caught me....[edited, to much pabulum]... I'm going to go get me some of those donuts and bacon.



Confession is always good for the soul! :D

MnV

Benchseats Rock
03-20-07, 01:06
God I love it. You're right, you caught me. I can't figure out the amazingly complex subterfuge going on here. So as a dedicated member of the LE community I tried to pass myself off as a fellow monger. I miss one reference to champs in an earlier post and try to find some help here (aren't we here to help each other? ) and I'm instantly LE. (an LEO would have access to all business licenses and be able to pull up every address in the state without blinking) Oh yeah and I only asked for location information; no desire for anything else. Thanks Dlrzboy btw; the champs reference was all I needed, I know that address.

Does anyone here live under the delusion that LE doesn't know the exact location and activities that go on in every AMP that has a legal shingle out? Raids/busts don't happen because LE found out about a place doing business. They happen when elections are coming, budgets are being reviewed, locals call in complaints, departments need good press to offset bad, the press brings too much attention to a certain issue, etc. The cops don't give a crap about this; they have better things to do (in their own mind and in truth). We all know this.

I doubt there are any that could vouch for me here. If I ever had people to vouch for me it would have been on TBD and I was never an active poster even in my heyday anyway. Hell their archive doesn't even go back far enough to catch any of my reviews on the public board there. There may be some here that recognize my tag from the old days (JJB? ) but certainly not that know me well enough to vouch for me. I came here because I'm now more of a dcspa board type and that board over there is now less than useless.

And sexual favors? Jeez, I don't know what you guys go to massage parlors for, but personally my neck is killing me (isn't your neck your "little head"? ).

Not that it matters; I don't care what you think and my usage of this board will continue to be what it's always been. Lurking and gleaning what I can, when I can, to use when my neck acts up. My mongering has always been spontaneous and unpredictable (why I'm more of a spa side type now); I'd head to my normal spots and/or check the board before heading out. I'd happily post my findings as my way of giving back to the community for responding to a question (otherwise normally I'd go about my business quietly) but if it wasn't for Dlrzboy I don't think I could say I've been given any support here.

Return to your regularly scheduled programming. I'm going to go get me some of those donuts and bacon.


Not even going to deny it?
Sheesh.... you fucking cops crack me up.



Benchseats Rock

Havin Fun
03-20-07, 05:41
There is a new lineup at H Yu, Cherry (new one) and Baby. Dont waste your time with Yu(sounds like "you"). She is not quite up to the standards for this place. Would like to say more but its better to keep things on the DL. Trusted can PM

Jet Ranger
03-20-07, 06:24
Speaking of Uncle LEO, the following article appeared on the Potomac News web site last week. I've redacted the names of the alleged customers and the alleged mamasan who were busted. The article erroneously describes the manager as a man.

Be careful out there.

JR

***********************************

Men appear on brothel charges
By JACLYN PITTS

Tuesday, March 13, 2007

Several men who recently appeared in court on prostitution-related charges either got their charges dropped or continued for a year for final disposition.

Police shut down a Lake Ridge area brothel operating under the guise of an acupressure center in December, resulting in prostitution-related charges for eight men and the business's manager.

All eight men and the center's manager appeared Friday before Prince William General District Judge Craig D. Johnston for trial.

Johnston continued the trials for **************, 39, of Fairfax Station and *************, 57, of the Fairfax area, to April 9.

Johnston continued the trial for ************, 45, of the Nokesville area, to April 27.

Johnston continued charges against *************, 21, of Burke; *************, 42, of the Mason Neck area; and *************, 26, of Vienna, to March 10, 2008, for final disposition, pending their good behavior.

Johnston dropped the charge against ***************, 47, of the Manassas area.

*************, 68, of the Haymarket area was charged with fornication for money in addition to the bawdy place charge. Johnston dropped the fornication charge and continued the bawdy place charge to March 10, 2008, for final disposition, pending his good behavior.

Health and Wellness Center, at 12504 Lake Ridge Drive in the Lake Ridge Executive Park, was found to be involved in prostitution after a police investigation in December.

The center's manager, **************, 53, of *************** in Carrollton, Texas, was charged with maintaining a bawdy place. His (sic) trial is April 27 in General District Court.

Police were tipped off to the operation by an unidentified man who was pulled over during a traffic stop after being seen leaving the business, according to an affidavit that was filed in Prince William County Circuit Court in December.

The man, who had been to the center a few times, told police that an Asian woman greeted him at the door and then escorted him to another room where he was greeted by a "younger" Asian woman, according to the affidavit.

After being asked what he wanted, the source received sexual favors at a cost.

Bobnva
03-20-07, 10:37
There may be some here that recognize my tag from the old days (JJB? ) Are you JungleJimBowie? If so I remember a lot of your reviews on TBD.

Any Mouse
03-20-07, 17:06
The Lady? The Guy? Anybody recognize this lovely couple?

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Sleazebum
03-20-07, 17:51
or at least I was, and occasionally I wander over to that sorry excuse for an info board and see whaht's going on.

DO NOT confuse me with anyone because I am confused enough myself!

Again, I am/was the JungleJim Bowie on TBD.

JJ

Bobnva
03-20-07, 23:56
or at least I was, and occasionally I wander over to that sorry excuse for an info board and see whaht's going on.

DO NOT confuse me with anyone because I am confused enough myself!

Again, I am/was the JungleJim Bowie on TBD.

JJI was BigBob on TBD. I don't go over there much anymore either, and with all the stuff going down lately, rightfully nobody knows or trusts me here yet.

Blind Lefty
03-21-07, 01:00
Are you JungleJimBowie? If so I remember a lot of your reviews on TBD.I am not JungleJimBowie; I went by the same nick over there as here. JJB was one person I've conversed with a couple times in the past but I'm sure not enough for him to vouch for me. If anyone would actually recognize me as an active poster they'd be way old-timers. Back from the heydays of the whirlingdervish, the BC email list (was it saltydog that maintained that?), cassie of classicallyyours and raven. I recognize the nick bobnva but probably only from my lurking over there.

Sleazebum
03-21-07, 10:47
I just now wandered over to that board and did a search on you. Went back 900 days and there were just 9 entries with a couple of them between us.

So, I have no reason to believe that BL is a porker. Seems like he is one of us who only gets the urge (or money) to venture out occasionally.

Given the current level pf paranoia around here, perhaps BL should post a detailed account of a recent experience just to see if his fantasies border on the illegal levels of most of us.

I know all my stories are just from the fantasy world I take my mind too while undergoing the pain of spinal adjustments. I assume that is the case for us all. If only they were real life experiences!

JJ



I am not JungleJimBowie; I went by the same nick over there as here. JJB was one person I've conversed with a couple times in the past but I'm sure not enough for him to vouch for me. If anyone would actually recognize me as an active poster they'd be way old-timers. Back from the heydays of the whirlingdervish, the BC email list (was it saltydog that maintained that?), cassie of classicallyyours and raven. I recognize the nick bobnva but probably only from my lurking over there.

Sarang Haeyo
03-21-07, 11:28
The Lady? The Guy? Anybody recognize this lovely couple?

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Good luck,
SH

Sleazebum
03-21-07, 11:39
DAYAMM!!!!!

Now I GOTTA go take care of bizness today!

JJ


That's me and my girl from two years ago. See how happy she looks? That's actually my face all pixelated like that. I suffered a horrendous digital accident as a child and this woman is the only one who can see what I really look like. She's much happier now than she was back then.
Good luck,
SH

Sarang Haeyo
03-21-07, 12:24
"that was u in the video? where did you blast and in what position?"
I've been laughing my ass off since I got it. He gave me permission to quote him.
I love you guys.
SH

Zoomster
03-21-07, 14:29
I just now wandered over to that board and did a search on you. Went back 900 days and there were just 9 entries with a couple of them between us.

So, I have no reason to believe that BL is a porker. Seems like he is one of us who only gets the urge (or money) to venture out occasionally.

Given the current level pf paranoia around here, perhaps BL should post a detailed account of a recent experience just to see if his fantasies border on the illegal levels of most of us.

I know all my stories are just from the fantasy world I take my mind too while undergoing the pain of spinal adjustments. I assume that is the case for us all. If only they were real life experiences!

JJ

The guy in the yuvutu.com video is going to need a spinal adjustment after that therapy session. I want to meet his masseuse.

MoonView
03-21-07, 17:20
The guy in the yuvutu.com video is going to need a spinal adjustment after that therapy session. I want to meet his masseuse.


Yeah...me to!!

MnV

Jake Jj 1492
03-21-07, 19:52
Long time since we've seen you here! Welcome back SH.

You know, you still didn't answer Allbust's question.

I thought it might have been me...but then I saw it was only 3:03 long...and even though that girl does look intimately familiar, it would be have been much longer. LOL

jj.



"that was u in the video? where did you blast and in what position?"
I've been laughing my ass off since I got it. He gave me permission to quote him.
I love you guys.
SH

Allbust
03-21-07, 23:15
Sup y'all,

True dat Jake, he still didn't answer. Haha, it's all in good fun!

Happy mongering!

Sarang Haeyo
03-22-07, 08:19
Long time since we've seen you here! Welcome back SH.

You know, you still didn't answer Allbust's question.

I thought it might have been me...but then I saw it was only 3:03 long...and even though that girl does look intimately familiar, it would be have been much longer. LOL

jj.
JJ
You'll notice that the clip stops and starts. The entire session was 90 minutes plus. "One hour half?"
Notice I cut out the part where she had to apply generous amounts of Astro-Glide to accomodate me.
To answer Allbust's question: the mamasan and kitchen mommy came in and finished me with their kimchi stained hands.
WHAT A SESSION!!!!
JJ; PM me for the latest info.
Good luck,
SH

Jake Jj 1492
03-22-07, 08:40
To answer Allbust's question: the mamasan and kitchen mommy came in and finished me with their kimchi stained hands.
WHAT A SESSION!!!!


You've gotta love the surprise assist! After all, sometimes #1 girl gets tired out, so she tags in #2 girl to assist...then mamasan jumps in for the action. At that point #1 girl gets jealous and soon you've got a full on reverse gangbang in play...

Mark Bellows
03-22-07, 19:11
I saw an ad in the City Paper for a Bubbles Accup. and called the other week. I wasn't sure of the location, but when I called, it was an obvious two call senerio. Anyway, today I went ahead and checked it out. Saw River, she was very attractive, and fit, but service was quick and to the point. Not much of a massage, but she obviously knew a little about it. Either way, after about 5 mins of that she asked if I was ready to turn over. I thought it was going to be a little slower, but she went right for it, no french, just the same shit I could have done myself. When I asked if I got more than one SOG, she said no. I've got some more details if anyone's interested, but I wouldn't waste your time. They must have other ad's out there because when I called she asked which one reffered me. Anyway, the phone number ends with 3924.

Looks: 10
Service: 2
Attitude:7

I'll post again my next time out. After payday.

MB

Bumble
03-24-07, 12:10
Don't normally partake more than once a month, but after seeing the video and my last disappointing visit, had to try out the new York* AMP. I can confirm the other postings: 100% legitimate service, excellent therapy. As a fully satisfied customer, I'm definitely going back in the future. Here is a synopsis of the therapy, seniors may PM for more details (maybe someday I'll be a senior member, too).

Called, no answer, but showed up around opening and found the light on. Ajima (mamasan applies to Japanese whorehouses, which this most definitely is not) thoroughly verified my identity, can't be too careful with all the wierdos out there. Requested Michelle based on previous posts, but was told she didn't work there. I think she smelled the breakfest coming from the resturants opening up next door, bacon or something, but got past that and confirmed the room was the standard fare.

Super hot therapist, slender young and pretty, soon arrived and off to the TS. All areas politely and carefully prepared. A little chit chat in Korean helped to ease the tension that was obviously building. That smell of breakfest still lingered in the air.

Back in the room, massage was firm and thorough, though a little reserved. It took some convincing that I could handle the full therapy, which eventually was executed with enthusiasm. Next time I'll remember to greet my therapist with more zeale to break the ice sooner.

Summary:
- Remodeling is top notch, clean and comfortable
- Service rendered professionally and carefully
- Apple (therapist) scored high on the standard scale 9/8/8/9 (promised even better service next time)

Gentlemongers, treat this place right and they'll be around for a long long time. I'd stay away from all those places you read about in the news. Let's be careful out there.

Zoomster
03-25-07, 12:22
Summary:
- Remodeling is top notch, clean and comfortable
- Service rendered professionally and carefully
- Apple (therapist) scored high on the standard scale 9/8/8/9 (promised even better service next time)

Gentlemongers, treat this place right and they'll be around for a long long time. I'd stay away from all those places you read about in the news. Let's be careful out there.

Good report, Jag65. I've learned from experience, though, that the often promised "better service next time" rarely materializes. If I can't get what I expect on a first visit, I won't go back.

Dlrzboy
03-29-07, 21:51
I'll take that level of service any day. Actually, repeat service can improve resuls, but usually because of an hour practice in setting up better chemistry. Of course the real booster is a second quality tip, then the chemistry might happen. Recently I enjoyed the services of Mimi at Yorkshire. Not really my cup of tea physically, but by the end of the session I was suitably relaxed! Cuter would be nice, but too often the real lookers are all fanatasy and very limited effort. She ended up providing good service for an hour.

Ampfreq
03-31-07, 13:59
Had a great time at the local three-star AMP (***) with a very young girl named Connie. A bit taller than most with enhanced upper body but not overdone. She's not an ordinary K-girl by any means. Longer face not a classic beauty but she could float my boat. I had just showered so we skipped that and she almost insisted on a hard massage which was relatively brief but satisfying. Lots of light massage followed and then she went to get hardware she required. Not into DATY much to my disappointment but I was still truly satisfied when I left to head back into traffic.

Have noticed it's been quiet here lately. Is everyone laying low waiting for the other shoe to drop or are we all on vacation? Yeah, right.

af

NcMgr
03-31-07, 23:25
The light was on and the open sign was lit so I stopped in for bit. I think they painted the walls recently as the stairs were much lighter than I remember. Seven was a real GFE. Legs of a dancer, beautiful and natural body and pretty face. That all made this old soilder stand at attention.

A John
04-01-07, 21:28
With a sweet smell of Salvadoran food in the air, push the bell mamasan Comes down to let me in she recognizes me right away. You're a day early she says new girls start tomorrow. Sorry guys I didn't get a look. One hour or 45 minutes .8 / .6 I took the 45.

In comes Sylvia very bubbly a lot of LK and fondling each other. I'm already thinking this is going to be nice. I had just come from the gym I really wasn't interested in the TS and she said no problem the massage was excellent.

On the flip she sat behind me with my head in her lap more LK and with in a few minutes she was straddling my face licking the sides of my shaft. I don't know about you guys but I enjoy the undressing of them. I peeled the underwear to the side and started a nice DATY very natural she had slipped the cover on DT was good with just the right amount of slurping. By now I've got her undressed and she's really enjoying her first O just then I pushed her for RCG she was holding my ankles and really riding hard. Spinning around barely missing a stroke into CG. I had her rollover for Mish where we really started grinding. We bouth were getting ready to spew. I picked her up with her legs on my four arms and really started pounding her while standing she was really grinding back after the finish she brought back hot towels, mouthwash and a bottled water she's very willing to please YMMV

I had a great time with her I was there for the hour no complaints from mamasan and she never even asked me for my tip.
1. Is what I gave after she dressed me

Looks: 8 around 30`s
Service: 8.5
Attitude:10

Trusted members can PM for details if needed

PS
If we don't like each other or have had words in the past don't bother PM`ing me.

Happy Hunting
AJ

Dubliner
04-02-07, 19:20
I'm looking for a little variety in my diet. Too much Asian is clogging up my artery! Any of you fellows like Russian or Latina?

Please PM.

Thanks,

Dubliner

Dubliner
04-02-07, 22:45
Just came form ATMB in Arlington, and I had to write staight away before the feeling left me!! I had an amazingly good experience with Jenny. Yes, Jenny!

A bit steep at 80 but worth it in my humble esteem.

7/9/9

PM me for details.

Dubliner

A John
04-03-07, 06:28
Just for the record this was not Latin.
Just so happened Latin food is being served on a lower-level.

Saiyen
04-03-07, 12:12
Well now I realize its just not me cause I see fellow mongers also showing SH fee has gone upto .8 for hour in some locations. Is there anything we can do to stop this in its tracks? I'm sure I could just walk out but the little bastard has a little mind of his own.

Jim Rob
04-04-07, 19:13
Well now I realize its just not me cause I see fellow mongers also showing SH fee has gone upto .8 for hour in some locations. Is there anything we can do to stop this in its tracks? I'm sure I could just walk out but the little bastard has a little mind of his own.


that much I just leave and say, No thank you

Jet Ranger
04-04-07, 22:44
This location changed ownership a week ago. They are now advertising in the Post (I saw an ad today.) .7 for 45 minutes, the service is nothing like it used to be in the past under the previous management. Don't waste your money there. Seniors and trusted members can PM me for additional info.

Wayward One
04-05-07, 20:01
This location changed ownership a week ago. They are now advertising in the Post (I saw an ad today.) .7 for 45 minutes, the service is nothing like it used to be in the past under the previous management. Don't waste your money there. Seniors and trusted members can PM me for additional info.

I can confirm this. They have gone to regular nova fare. too bad. Used to be my favorite place. I was treated well, and given the full hour; however, with the change in menus it no longer seems worth going to.

wayward one

A John
04-07-07, 00:26
I'm not sure which witch one you guys are talking about?

I had a repeat visit today with Sylvia. Took the 45 minutes at .6 and for the second time went over my hr.

I was really trying to see someone different but everyone was busy. She was a little disappointed at first I didn't want to see her. I flipped the script and told her it was her who told me to come back for the changing of the guards. We laughed it off.

I took her up on the TS she hit all the right places. The time spent together this go round was much better than the last. YMMV

I definitely like to change but in all honesty it seems the more you see them the more comfortable everyone gets seems to go a lot better for a couple times. Then they kind of start taking for granite and it becomes routine that's a big turnoff for me.

Happy Hunting
AJ

Big Daddy Don
04-07-07, 07:19
Had not been to the place above the garden for a while. Reading an earlier post I decided to give Seven a whirl. I definitly did not get the GFE. She is attractive, for her age.... Rushed TS, very short massage but did a nice job with the light massage part. No AR (very dissapointing) allowed limited DATY but stopped early and would slide her finger in the way to block her sensative spot (this was also very dissapointing). Mish off the edge of the table had a nice fit with good muscle control.

Wouldn't walk out if she was the luck of the draw but would not ask for her.

6s across the board.

Remodelar1780
04-07-07, 20:04
Hi,

I am new and I was wondering if someone could send a pm with some info or were are this places located.

Thank you

Sarang Haeyo
04-08-07, 08:19
Hi,

I am new and I was wondering if someone could send a pm with some info or were are this places located.

Thank you
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