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WalterKovacs
02-07-18, 11:14
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LetsGiveItATry
02-07-18, 12:36
120 for hour and 60 for HJ total 180 is this right.

Seams high to me.For $120, the HJ should be included. I would never pay an additional $60 for it. I seen Vandara once and she tried to upsell the HJ and I told her that I wasn't new to this and it was included in the initial price. She laughed and said I was right and did the deed. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'll give an extra $60 for P-Massage, $80 for BBBJ and $100 for FS. Nothing more! If we don't start coming together as a community on price of tips, then on the end it screw us all between will be paying higher prices.

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02-07-18, 13:35
I'd like to thank you guys for demonstrating yet again why we don't allow this discussion.

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Kijimuna
02-07-18, 14:15
120/ hr is the norm for NOVA independent thai / korean / asian ladies. 40-60 for a HJ is the typical price.The HJ is normally included in the $120 for most of the Thai providers. If you want to touch or see skin, then the price goes up.

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02-07-18, 19:15
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NyHornet
02-07-18, 23:46
120/ hr is the norm for NOVA independent thai / korean / asian ladies. 40-60 for a HJ is the typical price.Negative. $120 should always include. HJ. Now if clothes come off, there is some LFK or DFK or oral from either side, then another $60 is reasonable.

Idk85
02-08-18, 01:11
Negative. $120 should always include. HJ. Now if clothes come off, there is some LFK or DFK or oral from either side, then another $60 is reasonable.I need to clarify my statement on this matter: It isn't just HJ that just happens when I paid 40-60 extra with the Thais. Clothes come off and feeding of the nipples happens. I don't like LFK or DFK because of hygiene issues in the business. It isn't just HJ.

RubMeLongTime
02-08-18, 09:18
I hear from coco that she has a new girl nana working during the week. Anyone have any intel on the new talent?

Member #5834
02-08-18, 23:17
I hear from coco that she has a new girl nana working during the week. Anyone have any intel on the new talent?I am seeing her tomorrow. Will report.

Huntz.

Mustang946
02-09-18, 06:43
I am seeing her tomorrow. Will report.

Huntz.I stopped by and met a relatively new girl named Linda. She said she has been there for about a month and came from NYC. Taller than most therapists, lean and very nice looking. She looks appropriately 30-35 and speaks English quite well. I had a nice thorough hot TS followed by an average massage with above average finish after the flip followed by cuddling. I enjoyed my time with her and will see her again in a week or so.

Serpico99
02-09-18, 11:34
I returned to the Chinese AMP all the way down the street on Digges and was surprised to see Mimi working, but she was busy so she handed me off to a new girl name Eileen. Really nice body for a middle age Chinese MILF, nice round ass and nice tits. She is super sensitive to gentle caress and touching as she was becoming aroused with my touch. It's 70 for the door fee. Her massage was a little lighter Mimi's but it was still ok. I tip a little extra as they always treat me very well here. This is my go to place for Manassas AMPs.

I'm curious if anyone has visited the other AMPs in Manassas, specifically the two AMPs on Ambassador Drive (close to Rt 66). Back channel if you want. Thanks.

Duderino
02-09-18, 12:11
For $120, the HJ should be included. I would never pay an additional $60 for it. I seen Vandara once and she tried to upsell the HJ and I told her that I wasn't new to this and it was included in the initial price. She laughed and said I was right and did the deed. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'll give an extra $60 for P-Massage, $80 for BBBJ and $100 for FS. Nothing more! If we don't start coming together as a community on price of tips, then on the end it screw us all between will be paying higher prices.For my 120 it usually includes topless or nude and roaming with the independents. I would only pay more for BBBJ.

AbigW
02-10-18, 16:23
Went by Edsall and it looks like its all closed up. Number was disconnected as well. Anyone have any additional info? Didn't see any recent posts that mentioned she was gone, so thought I would inquire. Its a shame, because Vicki always delivered the goods. Solid massage and a nice lady. You'll be missed, Vicki!!

Any Mouse
02-10-18, 22:57
Went by Edsall and it looks like its all closed up. Number was disconnected as well. Anyone have any additional info? Didn't see any recent posts that mentioned she was gone, so thought I would inquire. Its a shame, because Vicki always delivered the goods. Solid massage and a nice lady. You'll be missed, Vicki!!Word has it that she moved to 7 corners. Have not checked it myself.

Ledaero
02-11-18, 14:16
I decided to try it out and was pleased. I went around 6 pm and had no problem parking right in front of their door. Several neighboring businesses, so no huge stigma of parking there. Greeted at door by Jennie, a rather petite provider, thin with a decent set. She collected the house fee of $80. We hit the TS, which was very pleasant and thorough. The massage was ok, she was straddling my back and legs as she pressed down. Not exactly spa quality. On the flip, she offered a full menu, requesting $140. I would return.Was Jennie young? Been curious to try this place.

Kijimuna
02-11-18, 15:55
Has the Korean joint at Pidgeon Hill closed? I noticed the lights off and it looked deserted.

Harley Dude 29
02-11-18, 21:54
I saw this new ad and gave it a try.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/m-703-228-9799/45344122

Seems to be an established place based on looks of lots of living areas. Multiple names in their ads. Got in and lady who met me had no enthusiasm at all. So opted for 30 minutes. About 8 minutes in of some fairly decent reach under, she says I'm too fat and roll flip over. I must say I have not had that comment before anywhere but WTF. Turned over and she immediately became a jack hammer. Not enjoyable and was obvious she wanted me to finish and leave. So finished and was getting dressed and she asked if I was having twins. Funny *****. So if you like paying to be insulted, then it may be a great place to visit. I'm not returning.

Goheat
02-12-18, 00:44
I stopped by and met a relatively new girl named Linda. She said she has been there for about a month and came from NYC. Taller than most therapists, lean and very nice looking. She looks appropriately 30-35 and speaks English quite well. I had a nice thorough hot TS followed by an average massage with above average finish after the flip followed by cuddling. I enjoyed my time with her and will see her again in a week or so.Linda = Coco. She uses both names. She's quite up there in looks and level of service. Not a full menu, but gets quite into it. She's usually by appointments (guess she's that popular), but worth the setup.

BigPoppa2308
02-12-18, 12:24
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/zaza-thai-my-new-pics/42956422

I think she isn't available every day. .6 for HJ. It seems like she has a menu because she implied there is more.Saw a crappy review on The other board but took a chance because I wanted to see the big cans in the pics. Pics are real. She had a huge sweatshirt on, could've been 250 lbs under there and still hid it, and hair in a bun, typical tired wife looks. Her massage is really lackluster and non-sensual. No roaming allowed either, even otc. On the flip she operated on 3 tiers: .6 for HJ, .8 for nude / touch, and 1.5 for FS. No BJ offered at all. I countered with 1. For FS and even 1.2 but she said no. I chuckled and declined everything except for her to finish the massage so I can get my full hour. She blathered on about why she charges what she does and I politely told her that plenty of other girls do more for less but that everyone is different. I can see she was mulling over giving me the old "one time price break exception" since she was going to lose out on extra dough but she stood firm. I left and didn't leave an extra penny. Do not even bother fellas, you've been warned. I left disappointed, not because I was feeling "blue", but because I really wanted to see those cans. Oh well, never abandon your principles.

My thoughts are echoed by others here in regards to pricing. A nova finish should always be included, you leave a nice tip of course, and should never be negotiated. Clothes coming off and some GFE options warrants additional .6 - .8 but giving anything over 1. For FS is absurd. Might as well see an escort and skip the preamble massage for that much.

On a very different note, went to see another Thai offering, Alexa, in Cville a couple weeks past. Pics are her. She is a short, cute, girl with smooth skin and nice perky C's. Greeted me in a tank top and shorts. Nice gentle massage with roaming allowed. On the flip she motioned for hand release and I asked for FS. She said how much you have? And I told her. 8 to which she agreed. Did a bit of CBJ before the main event. I left satisfied and will repeat.

https://www.escortcafe.com/virginia/16004/alexa-thai-571-207-7421

Ledaero
02-12-18, 12:34
Can anyone recommend any good AAMPs or agencies in the area? Hoping to set something up and I'm new to the area.

CoolWays
02-12-18, 16:11
Will be in town Tues. Wed. Looking for a nice massage with a few options without having to take out a loan. I have searched here and there must be 250 ads. Please help.

Thank you.

Sexingit
02-13-18, 14:33
Will be in town Tues. Wed. Looking for a nice massage with a few options without having to take out a loan. I have searched here and there must be 250 ads. Please help.

Thank you.Check out the Thai ladies in Centreville, Chantilly and Fairfax for options that doesn't include FS.

Jim Rob
02-13-18, 14:43
I saw this new ad and gave it a try.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/m-703-228-9799/45344122

Seems to be an established place based on looks of lots of living areas. Multiple names in their ads. Got in and lady who met me had no enthusiasm at all. So opted for 30 minutes. About 8 minutes in of some fairly decent reach under, she says I'm too fat and roll flip over. I must say I have not had that comment before anywhere but WTF. Turned over and she immediately became a jack hammer. Not enjoyable and was obvious she wanted me to finish and leave. So finished and was getting dressed and she asked if I was having twins. Funny *****. So if you like paying to be insulted, then it may be a great place to visit. I'm not returning.Usually anything you come back at her would be much worse then she could ever say to you. She's usually old and jacks off dudes a living, she leaves herself open to a lot of insults if you wanted to be a dick.

I once had a lady shake my belly and make fun of me for being fat at an AMP. I politely told her, you don't think I fucking know that? Insulting me doesn't make me cum, just ask my wife. But f that *****.

Phoenix06
02-13-18, 16:37
Had a dream yesterday of Angels. My favorite dream. 1st time back since the new year. New girl opened and was a bit on the heavy side for me. Not unattractive just a bit thick. Asked if Coco was working. She was and smiled when she saw me, "long time" she says. Table shower was amazing and so relaxing. Started face down with great pressure and above average massage. She finally laid down on me and nibbled at my lobe so the flip was quicker than normal. Another incredible finish with P2 P. I cannot get enough of this. Standard house fee. 8 and a little extra on the tip. 8 because the service was so good.

P6.

OldManInVa
02-13-18, 18:05
Was Jennie young? Been curious to try this place.I would guess late 30's, never good at guessing ages.

Kijimuna
02-13-18, 21:39
Usually anything you come back at her would be much worse then she could ever say to you. She's usually old and jacks off dudes a living, she leaves herself open to a lot of insults if you wanted to be a dick.

I once had a lady shake my belly and make fun of me for being fat at an AMP. I politely told her, you don't think I fucking know that? Insulting me doesn't make me cum, just ask my wife. But f that *****.Yeah, Asians love to talk about how fat someone is right to their face. They know it is an insult here, but just can't resist. But god forbid anyone comments a Thai girls skin is dark. LOL.

Member #5834
02-15-18, 00:19
Yeah, the new one is a younger, cute, but thicker Korean named Nana. Worked Annandale a year or so ago. Same level of no-haggle, good service at the same levels / limitations as the other angels. She can give a good, hard massage, and isn't shy at all in TS. Great English, despite an odd accent. Kind of Korean, kind of Japanese. Not sure how long she will be around.

Huntz.


Had a dream yesterday of Angels. My favorite dream. 1st time back since the new year. New girl opened and was a bit on the heavy side for me. Not unattractive just a bit thick. Asked if Coco was working. She was and smiled when she saw me, "long time" she says. Table shower was amazing and so relaxing. Started face down with great pressure and above average massage. She finally laid down on me and nibbled at my lobe so the flip was quicker than normal. Another incredible finish with P2 P. I cannot get enough of this. Standard house fee. 8 and a little extra on the tip. 8 because the service was so good.

P6.

BlazinAzn
02-15-18, 13:33
Has the Korean joint at Pidgeon Hill closed? I noticed the lights off and it looked deserted.I guess so. I tried calling and no answer on the phone.

BuckshotWatson
02-15-18, 16:55
Visited this spa recently. I had been there before, when it was Springdale (or Sprindale) Therapy, but hadn't been there in probably close to a year. This time Bebe was my therapist. Fairly tall, fairly slender (a slight belly), and not unattractive. She gave a good medium massage by pressing down on the muscle (rather than long strokes down the muscle), and her hands felt nice. It was a very soothing and calming, though not really deep, massage. When I indicated she could go deeper, she stood on my back and did some good ashiatsu. One thing I really enjoyed is that she did not use lotion or oil during the massage (some lotion was applied after I turned over). Seems like standard NoVa options, though I don't see her as the type to nibble your earlobe or bodyslide you (at least on the first visit). The space is nice, and my therapy room was big. I would return when I'm looking for some calmness and serenity.

JmSuttr
02-15-18, 19:28
Usually anything you come back at her would be much worse then she could ever say to you. She's usually old and jacks off dudes a living, she leaves herself open to a lot of insults if you wanted to be a dick.

I once had a lady shake my belly and make fun of me for being fat at an AMP. I politely told her, you don't think I fucking know that? Insulting me doesn't make me cum, just ask my wife. But f that *****.So far in the discussion no one mentioned a tip amount but, if I don't have a happy session and it's because of the way the provider acts or something she says, then I adjust the tip accordingly. I don't care if she did BBBJ, if she dishes insults or crap attitude, she'll be lucky to get a Jackson. Since I'm not likely to repeat it doesn't matter to me if she gets pissed. And I have no problem explaining to her or MMS the reasoning behind the tip amount. If the message gets through then maybe she'll think twice before treating another client that way.

Sushi Boy
02-16-18, 23:32
Has the Korean joint at Pidgeon Hill closed? I noticed the lights off and it looked deserted.Sign on the door says "Closed for Construction". I hope they open back up, it was fast becoming my regular spot.

JohnCena007
02-17-18, 00:38
Hey Guys,

Has anyone tried Niki Thai near Centerville? Any review comments are appreciated. She has VOIP number.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/thai-niki-incalls-only-10am-to-9-00pm-private-location/45329602

Bunker Buster
02-17-18, 03:59
Hey Guys,

Has anyone tried Niki Thai near Centerville? Any review comments are appreciated. She has VOIP number.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/thai-niki-incalls-only-10am-to-9-00pm-private-location/45329602You should be using Google to search the phone number, and Google Image to reverse-search pix before asking for help.

The number brings up ads with a different name and pic.

Image search brings up an Instagram model in Atlanta with 65,000 followers (80,000 on Twitter), and she's Filipina. The likelihood she's doing rub and tugs up here is pretty much zero.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKW7awEAoDJ/?hl=en&taken-by=missnikihughes

Pcpc1688
02-17-18, 14:13
For all you guys that have to take 120 HJs and being called fat on top of getting fucked by Thai girls in not a good way haha.

I'm so happy I'm not in this shithole of over priced HJs and BJs and FS (yeah right) pit of hell. It was bearable 10 yrs ago, today it's 120-160 for a HJ and it’s a bargain, NOT.

Anyway, it’s being taken for granted that sucks.

PC out.

PittLover057
02-17-18, 16:28
Hey Guys,

Has anyone tried Niki Thai near Centerville? Any review comments are appreciated. She has VOIP number.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/thai-niki-incalls-only-10am-to-9-00pm-private-location/45329602Someone told me that was Patty that worked in Annandale and Fairfax before. Anyone confirm that yet?

PittLover057
02-17-18, 22:02
Yeah, Asians love to talk about how fat someone is right to their face. They know it is an insult here, but just can't resist. But god forbid anyone comments a Thai girls skin is dark. LOL.Yeah that's a cultural thing. They are very quick to point out someone's fatness from what I've seen in my trips to Asia.

JohnCena007
02-18-18, 00:56
You should be using Google to search the phone number, and Google Image to reverse-search pix before asking for help.

The number brings up ads with a different name and pic.

Image search brings up an Instagram model in Atlanta with 65,000 followers (80,000 on Twitter), and she's Filipina. The likelihood she's doing rub and tugs up here is pretty much zero.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKW7awEAoDJ/?hl=en&taken-by=missnikihughesThanks, Bunker Buster. This helps.

JohnCena007
02-18-18, 01:14
Someone told me that was Patty that worked in Annandale and Fairfax before. Anyone confirm that yet?Thanks PittLover.

Member #5678
02-18-18, 02:27
No luck at AM this afternoon. Friendly and solid massage with a bit of thigh teasing, but nothing more. Is the lady who was mentioned as being a bit more friendly still there?

JmSuttr
02-18-18, 06:57
For all you guys that have to take 120 HJs and being called fat on top of getting fucked by Thai girls in not a good way haha.

I'm so happy I'm not in this shithole of over priced HJs and BJs and FS (yeah right) pit of hell. It was bearable 10 yrs ago, today it's 120-160 for a HJ and its a bargain, NOT.

Anyway, its being taken for granted that sucks.

PC out.IMHO, one of the universal truths about the hobby is that the price you pay is directly proportional to the amount and quality of the homework you do. There are plenty of well-priced options in the DMV but our problem, again IMHO, is that we have a significant number of mongers with more $ than time or sense. And that combination results in overpaying, which leads to (some) providers overcharging, etc.

For better or worse, the hobby is an essentially free market, with no govt or regulatory constraints except for the ever-present need to avoid LEO. Willing buyers and sellers are free to exchange their services and goods for whatever the market will bear. Which means that, if there's any complaint about the level of prices, the problem is more likely to be with the buyer's side of things.

Mallet70
02-18-18, 08:05
IMHO, one of the universal truths about the hobby is that the price you pay is directly proportional to the amount and quality of the homework you do. There are plenty of well-priced options in the DMV but our problem, again IMHO, is that we have a significant number of mongers with more $ than time or sense. And that combination results in overpaying, which leads to (some) providers overcharging, etc.

For better or worse, the hobby is an essentially free market, with no govt or regulatory constraints except for the ever-present need to avoid LEO. Willing buyers and sellers are free to exchange their services and goods for whatever the market will bear. Which means that, if there's any complaint about the level of prices, the problem is more likely to be with the buyer's side of things.Got some snarky comments about my belly from Joyce, and it's definitely a cultural thing. I've lost the weight, but this damn spare tire ain't going anywhere!

Just laugh it off and have fun, otherwise it ruins the mood.

Pcpc1688
02-18-18, 10:57
IMHO, one of the universal truths about the hobby is that the price you pay is directly proportional to the amount and quality of the homework you do. There are plenty of well-priced options in the DMV but our problem, again IMHO, is that we have a significant number of mongers with more $ than time or sense. And that combination results in overpaying, which leads to (some) providers overcharging, etc.

For better or worse, the hobby is an essentially free market, with no govt or regulatory constraints except for the ever-present need to avoid LEO. Willing buyers and sellers are free to exchange their services and goods for whatever the market will bear. Which means that, if there's any complaint about the level of prices, the problem is more likely to be with the buyer's side of things.Agreed. I was merely venting local frustration of high ($80) hourly rates from K MPs to $60 Plus tip for release. Of course we can all goto Greenbelt anytime LOL.

Other places including Vegas the hourly for massage is $19-40 hour. In Cali, $30 hr so I pay $60 all in for HJ and FS with rimming from my fav regular I have seen for last 3 yrs.

PC out.

JmSuttr
02-18-18, 12:48
Got some snarky comments about my belly from Joyce, and it's definitely a cultural thing. I've lost the weight, but this damn spare tire ain't going anywhere!

Just laugh it off and have fun, otherwise it ruins the mood.I wonder if it's more of a cultural thing for Chinese and Koreans? Several Thai masseuses are more voluptuous and full-figured (ex. KK, Tara, Nikki) and even the slender ones, at least IME, don't seem to have a big issue with a client's weight. Then again, I may not be the best judge since I'm reasonably in shape for my age. But I've seen a lot of Thai providers and most are eager to please (within their individual limits) and I haven't yet encountered a snarky attitude about anything.

JmSuttr
02-18-18, 13:48
Agreed. I was merely venting local frustration of high ($80) hourly rates from K MPs to $60 Plus tip for release. Of course we can all goto Greenbelt anytime LOL.

Other places including Vegas the hourly for massage is $19-40 hour. In Cali, $30 hr so I pay $60 all in for HJ and FS with rimming from my fav regular I have seen for last 3 yrs.

PC out.Like real estate, so much about the hobby depends on location. Areas with lower costs (for the ladies), as long as there's a sufficient supply of providers to ensure competition, should result in lower prices for clients. But I've also seen low-cost areas with higher prices because of a scarcity of providers. And high-cost areas, like NY and LA, often have an oversupply that tends to depress prices. IMHO, that's the main reason the DMV has so many visiting girls from CA.

And local conditions can have even more bizarre effects. For example, one K-girl I used to see worked during the week at an AMP in Seven Corners and at a spa in PG County on the weekends. FS available in MD but not in VA for the same girl, go figure. She said it was different MMS rules.

I guess the best a monger can do is to figure out their local market as much as possible and resolve to never, ever, overpay. FWIW, there are plenty of AMPs in VA where the house fee for one hr is $60, or even $50 when they're running a special. So standard relief can be had for $90-$100, all in. Even for an $80 place, there's absolutely no need to ever pay more than $40 for a NOVA std HJ.

By using $90-$120 as a baseline, that then helps in deciding how much to pay for upgrades. For mongers who consistently find themselves overpaying, they should just smack themselves upside the head and admit that the providers are getting the better of them. And that's what's happening when an FBSM provider tries to pretend her $120 hourly rate is ONLY for the massage. That's pure BS, and she knows it. It's then on the client to communicate that he also knows it's BS and isn't going to be played.

And, of course, there are always the success stories where a combination of good homework and good luck will help you find a gem like your fave in CA. And hitting those kinds of jackpots is one of the things that keep us playing the game!

Jim Rob
02-19-18, 10:13
Got some snarky comments about my belly from Joyce, and it's definitely a cultural thing. I've lost the weight, but this damn spare tire ain't going anywhere!

Just laugh it off and have fun, otherwise it ruins the mood.I will just laugh it off, I hope she returns the same laughter when I call her a leather jacket and tell her old she looks 😂

TheOuroboros
02-19-18, 10:29
Got some snarky comments about my belly from Joyce, and it's definitely a cultural thing. I've lost the weight, but this damn spare tire ain't going anywhere!

Just laugh it off and have fun, otherwise it ruins the mood.Let's be honest, if we all had super model bodies and six packs to go with our six packs, we probably wouldn't be mongering in the first place. I can assure you these ladies deal with plenty of us big bellied bruisers so don't feel singled out. Embrace it, It's a testament to our comfortable life style that we can afford and if you ask any of them ladies, I'm sure they'd trade places with you any day of the week.

We all float down here.

Jim Rob
02-19-18, 14:13
A year since moving to the area I'm finally had time for the hobby and am ready to contribute something. Saw a Craigslist post by Maryna advertising herself as an attractive Latina. The picture was definitely not real (reverse image search suggests it's the cover to a novel or something), but it piqued my curiosity nonetheless and I decided to TOFTT when I couldn't find anything about her online. There were two numbers, the first one didn't accept texts but the second one answered me and quoted me $. 80 for an hour. Confirmed a time and showed up to the address on the post. Was a little nervous when I saw it was inside a hair salon. I asked the woman at the cash register for Maryna and she asked for the agreed upon price up front, which I thought was another bad sign, but then Maryna came up and she was a very hot 30 something Latina so I figured what the hell. Paid the cash and she led me downstairs to a room with a good amount of privacy. I figured I'd better make my intentions known given the setting so I put a $. 40 tip in plain sight by the table, got naked and lay down without covering myself.

She didn't seem at all put off by that and she pocketed the money so I started to like my odds of leaving satisfied more. She covered me with oil and gave me a solid if unspectacular massage and was not shy at all around the best areas. After she had worked me head to toe she asked me to flip over. She covered me up with a tiny wash cloth, but put a candle on to make the mood lighting even more appropriate. After massaging my chest she went to work on my inner thighs until I couldn't take it anymore and I reached out and started to rub her ass. She asked if I was ready and I said yes and she took off the wash cloth and gave me a really nice finish. Afterwards, she showed me to the shower. It ended up being only 45 minutes but she would have kept going if I'd asked her to and I probably rushed it a little with my aggressiveness so I don't blame her at all.

Very happy I stumbled upon that ad. Maybe I could have gotten away with a smaller tip but I think I got my money's worth. Shouldn't be too hard to find the ad, but feel free to PM.Do any of my monger brothers know the address of this place, I went a very long time ago and totally forgot the location. Pm me or reply.

Thank you.

Tom McAn
02-20-18, 01:42
Yeah, Asians love to talk about how fat someone is right to their face. They know it is an insult here, but just can't resist. But god forbid anyone comments a Thai girls skin is dark. LOL.I've seen a number of Asian providers over the years and can't ever recall one insulting me for my weight. Other things, yes, but not my weight. And that was before I lost 35 pounds last year.

PittLover057
02-20-18, 11:11
I've seen a number of Asian providers over the years and can't ever recall one insulting me for my weight. Other things, yes, but not my weight. And that was before I lost 35 pounds last year.I should say that it is common for them to speak freely about weight and obesity amongst other asians. I think many asians are aware that this is frowned open in American culture, so you don't see that as much. But in China, Taiwan and other Asian countries that I have been to, I know that they are very open about this.

VAmongerman
02-20-18, 15:08
Do any of my monger brothers know the address of this place, I went a very long time ago and totally forgot the location. Pm me or reply.

Thank you.This the hair salon at c Pike and glebe. Personally I think it's overpriced for what you get. I felt that More is possible though not at the salon. I've also seen another lady there whose name escapes me. Same service level.

There is also betouch. I have been betempted but haven't tried yet. Would welcome any comments.

Vam.

TheOuroboros
02-20-18, 17:52
Had some time to kill and saw this ad: http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/100-young-sweet-asian-girls-call-703-488-8886/45218562 which seemed promising. I checked here to see if anyone left some details but couldn't find any reviews of this place so I took a trip over to Burke and dropped by TTOFTT. Met a nice young Asian girl, late 20's and asked for an hour. Credit card machine was broke. So she asked for $80 in cash (both can be taken as good signs that extras are available) so I complied. No TS, which perhaps a foreshadow I should have paid closer attention to but I decided to take the plunge anyway since she was cute. Clothes came off and the massage began. It was pretty good, I've definitely had worse but also have had better. It was a good massage for. 6 hr not so much. 8. When 50 min went by with no flip I started getting nervous. But with time almost up she asked me to turn and started massaging my face. I figured I would have to make a move to indicate my intent so I started to roam and lightly touched her bum. She smiled at me and said "you like my ass?" I said hell yeah and that woke Jimmy from his slumber. I took off the towel and pointed and she frowned and told me no. She couldn't do that. She said "I'll get you oil you can do yourself" and I'm like nah thanks, maybe that's someone's fetish out there but I don't need an audience to DIY, I need participation LOL. I got up and left a Jackson since I was feeling generous and she did give me a full hour massage even if I left a little less happy than I wanted to. Seems strictly legit to me and not worth the price of admission, but let me know if anyone's experienced something different. YMMV.

Sexingit
02-21-18, 09:06
I wonder if it's more of a cultural thing for Chinese and Koreans? Several Thai masseuses are more voluptuous and full-figured (ex. KK, Tara, Nikki) and even the slender ones, at least IME, don't seem to have a big issue with a client's weight. Then again, I may not be the best judge since I'm reasonably in shape for my age. But I've seen a lot of Thai providers and most are eager to please (within their individual limits) and I haven't yet encountered a snarky attitude about anything.I think that Thai people are more likely to be sensual because their romantic language and French colony roots. The Chinese and Koreans are way more blunt, good and bad.

Also lots of these Thai providers have worked in Thailand, and are used to working with people of different types because of the booming tourism and sex trade. Not to say that the Chinese or Koreans don't have tourism or a sex trade but Thai's sexually deviation is much more embraced and accepted than the aforementioned groups.

Many of these Thai girls know English and our customs so they are aware that taunting the customer is insulting.

Kijimuna
02-21-18, 10:27
I think that Thai people are more likely to be sensual because their romantic language and French colony roots. The Chinese and Koreans are way more blunt, good and bad.

Also lots of these Thai providers have worked in Thailand, and are used to working with people of different types because of the booming tourism and sex trade. Not to say that the Chinese or Koreans don't have tourism or a sex trade but Thai's sexually deviation is much more embraced and accepted than the aforementioned groups.

Many of these Thai girls know English and our customs so they are aware that taunting the customer is insulting.Thailand was never a French colony. Maybe you're thinking of Laos, Cambodia, or Vietnam.

BuckshotWatson
02-21-18, 10:37
Had some time to kill and saw this ad: http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/100-young-sweet-asian-girls-call-703-488-8886/45218562 which seemed promising. I checked here to see if anyone left some details but couldn't find any reviews of this place so I took a trip over to Burke and dropped by TTOFTT. A couple of us have been there, with similar experiences. Search "Burke" on here and most of the 2015-16 hits are about this spa. It does seem they've started to include more cheesecake shots in their advertising, so I was wondering whether they had changed their approach, but I guess not.

Sexingit
02-21-18, 12:23
Thailand was never a French colony. Maybe you're thinking of Laos, Cambodia, or Vietnam.The French and British left Thailand as a neutral country. Perhaps that's why the sex trade was able to flourish because the only thing needed during wartime is alcohol and sex? There had to be a demand for the sex trade or else they wouldn't have become the sex hotspot that's known as Pattaya.

Kijimuna
02-21-18, 13:42
The French and British left Thailand as a neutral country. Perhaps that's why the sex trade was able to flourish because the only thing needed during wartime is alcohol and sex? There had to be a demand for the sex trade or else they wouldn't have become the sex hotspot that's known as Pattaya.The largest group of customers in the Thai sex trade are Thai men. Just about every town has a Thai karaoke bar with Thai girls. Prostitution has been going on in Thailand well before farang started showing up.

Pattaya was a R & R spot for US servicemen during the Vietnam war. Soi Cowboy was named after a US serviceman who stayed on in BKK after the Vietnam war and opened a bar on that street.

Needtorelax
02-21-18, 14:59
Sign on the door says "Closed for Construction". I hope they open back up, it was fast becoming my regular spot.Damn, me too. Was off work early and had the urge to go out there today and got no answer when calling and didn't see them advertising anymore on CL. Really unfortunate.

Mimi there was absolutely fabulous. Nice body, good personality, nice long table showers, and picked up quickly that I enjoyed the backside massaged and worked it in throughout. Best I had found in quite some time.

Serpico99
02-21-18, 18:04
I took the plunge to check out a Chinese AMP off of Mathis, near the intersection of Breeden. Think "oriental massage". I saw that this place was recently reviewed on another monger site and it looked promising.

40/ half hour or 60/ hour for entrance fee. My provider was an older Chinese, who was big boned. No real massage, but the soft touch was ok as she took her time to work the soft touch and took direction to make me last and not be a one minute man. Tipped 40. I wouldn't waste time on this place as the provider was nothing to look at and the massage was was ok, a bit weak. I would recommend to avoid.

OldBoomer
02-21-18, 22:52
There has been discussion here that we Virginia folk should consider crossing the great divide of the Potomac to experience. Well - more.

I read the PG board where the listed locations are discussed. I did a tour that consisted of visiting each one to inquire about initial price, ask to see their table shower and the massage room. Here is my report:

Diamond. No sign. I had to search the building to find what looked like the place in the basement. The mamasan showed me the rooms. One had a door. Others just a curtain The place felt creepy to me. I passed.

Rising Star -no sign. Good location, second floor. Looked ok. But front door blocked with an iron screen security door. Mamsan would not let me enter unless I agreed to a massage. Could be good, but I moved on.

TWBC -no sign. So so location. Place had a 1950's feel to it. Mamasan did not want to show me around.

TK. Nice office building location. Like TWBC the place looked thrown together. But Mamsan was nice. The standard one hour massage at all these places (except at TK) is 0. 6 for an hour. TK was 0. 7.

VIP. Acupuncture sign. I actually visited this place second and then returned after the others. Good location. Easy Parking. Very nice young mamasan. This looks much like a legit massage place. Very clean, bright and open with light. The mamasan showed me a room which looked better than any I have visited. The table shower was busy, so I told her I would come back. After the other visits above I did come back. I am glad I did. By far the prettiest therapist I have ever had. A very good massage. The table shower explored parts of my body that are typically enclosed in darkness. I did not negotiate with my provider. Instead I gave all the money I had (a reasonable amount bringing the total under $1. 9) and told her to have her way with me. She happily agreed and locked the door. The best AMP experience I have had followed. It was a full experience.

It was splendid. I got her name, but she asked me to to publish it.

So, I do recommend crossing the river occasionally. With the exception of Diamond, any of these places could be good on a given day. VIP was good on the day I visited.

OldBoomer
02-21-18, 23:07
There has been discussion here that we Virginia folk should consider crossing the great divide of the Potomac to experience. Well - more.

I read the PG board where the listed locations are discussed. I did a tour that consisted of visiting each one to inquire about initial price, ask to see their table shower and the massage room. Here is my report:

Diamond. No sign. I had to search the building to find what looked like the place in the basement. The mamasan showed me the rooms. One had a door. Others just a curtain The place felt creepy to me. I passed.

Rising Star -no sign. Good location, second floor. Looked ok. But front door blocked with an iron screen security door. Mamsan would not let me enter unless I agreed to a massage. Could be good, but I moved on.

TWBC -no sign. So so location. Place had a 1950's feel to it. Mamasan did not want to show me around.

TK. Nice office building location. Like TWBC the place looked thrown together. But Mamsan was nice. The standard one hour massage at all these places (except at TK) is 0. 6 for an hour. TK was 0. 7.

VIP. Acupuncture sign. I actually visited this place second and then returned after the others. Good location. Easy Parking. Very nice young mamasan. This looks much like a legit massage place. Very clean, bright and open with light. The mamasan showed me a room which looked better than any I have visited. The table shower was busy, so I told her I would come back. After the other visits above I did come back. I am glad I did. By far the prettiest therapist I have ever had. A very good massage. The table shower explored parts of my body that are typically enclosed in darkness. I did not negotiate with my provider. Instead I gave all the money I had (a reasonable amount bringing the total under $1. 9) and told her to have her way with me. She happily agreed and locked the door. The best AMP experience I have had followed. It was a full experience.

It was splendid. I got her name, but she asked me to to publish it.

So, I do recommend crossing the river occasionally. With the exception of Diamond, any of these places could be good on a given day. VIP was good on the day I visited.

TheOuroboros
02-22-18, 03:36
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Titan Omega
02-22-18, 14:37
Saw a new ad last week for Bamboo in springfield. I went in last week saw an old lady there and asked if they had a TS she said no and I got the vibe place was legit so passed. But went back tonight, not sure why but figured what the hell maybe the massage won't suck and if I get something more then cool if not at least I'd TOFTT. Glad I did. Met with an older korean lady named Julia. She's got some years on her and did not have a spinners body (maybe back in the day) but she wasn't terrible on the eyes either. I actually prefer older women because at the very least they tend to know how to give a decent massage and Julia had very skilled hands. To be honest, one of the best massages I've had in ages. Throughout the massage we spoke and I got the feeling she was reading me out to see if I was Uncle LEO. Enough "accidental" teases in certain areas tipped me off that there may be a flip with extras, but if not, it was a solid massage, I would leave satisfied if there was no ST. To my delight the soft touch came as did the flip and a short negotiation to follow. She said no FS which I'm like duh, this is NOVA after all but much to my surprise she was open to mouth release. Agreed on $ and off came the clothes. Nursing and DATY. I had fun and felt like I hit a jackpot scoring both a good massage and leaving happy. If you're like me and value both the massage and what follows then I'd say it's certainly worth giving a try. Total Dmg $. 8.Based off this review I headed to Bamboo. I was initially thrown off at how old the lady was but went with it. I also had Julia and she was great to my surprise. After doing a bit of flirting with her at the start once the lights dimmed she became playful and roaming. One of the best massages I've ever had. The attention to detail was key! Walked on my back and more! On the flip she went to soft touch that immediately got my attention. She started working on my soldier but I wanted the mouth release and whispered if she can do mouth. She shhh'd me and went back to work. Release wasn't explosive which was probably more my fault than anything. She resumed the massage for another 30 minutes. It was soo good and relaxing I fell asleep. She later introduced me to her partner as her new boyfriend. The partner doesn't have the same slim body and probably just as old. Will try again to see if I can get more but it's worth it just for the massage.

Dvldwg
02-23-18, 13:58
A few weeks ago I tried to hit up Angel but they were busy. I had limited time available and hadn't made a backup plan so I did some quick searching and decided to try a place I'd seen advertised but never visited. It was called Smooth Water, located in Fairfax, but unless you were specifically looking you'd probably never find it. I think the building is a combination of apartments and businesses. Anyway, the place was on the lower level and I headed down the elevator. I knocked on the door and was let right in. The place itself is very small, no waiting area, or two door entryway like I'm used to. I was led to the main (only) room that was divided by a curtain in the middle. They were leading someone else out the same door, but from the other side of the curtain, and so I just waited and avoided eye contact.

Onto the massage itself. I can't recall my providers name, but she was middle age +, but very nice and I found her attractive. The table shower was really a sponge bath on the massage table. It wasn't bad, but definitely not my thing. I thought the massage itself was really good, she used hot stones and towels and overall a really nice experience. A little light teasing, and on the flip some more overt attempts. Received a standard nova finish with some OTC / UTC roaming. A little additional shoulder / neck massage after cleaning everything up and I was on my way. Now, this is where something happened that I have never experienced before. On my way out, she stamps a card and hands it to me. She says to come back and I'll get a stamp each time, and when the card is full I'll get a free massage?! I think I left speechless, but now I have to laugh. I will admit that I did ditch the card upon walking out. I don't need an odd reminder like that being left around and found at some random point, but I have never received a stamp card at any AMP I've ever been to. Also, while the massage was good and the ending was as expected, the strangeness of the room setup and location left me a little uneasy so I'm not likely to repeat.

She did also say she had some younger friends that would be joining her in the next few weeks and that I should come back and try the 4-hand massage out. We'll see if my resolve crumbles, I just hope she doesn't ask me for the card if I go back.

WalterKovacs
02-23-18, 17:20
Based off this review I headed to Bamboo. I was initially thrown off at how old the lady was but went with it. I also had Julia and she was great to my surprise. After doing a bit of flirting with her at the start once the lights dimmed she became playful and roaming. One of the best massages I've ever had. The attention to detail was key! Walked on my back and more! On the flip she went to soft touch that immediately got my attention. She started working on my soldier but I wanted the mouth release and whispered if she can do mouth. She shhh'd me and went back to work. Release wasn't explosive which was probably more my fault than anything. She resumed the massage for another 30 minutes. It was soo good and relaxing I fell asleep. She later introduced me to her partner as her new boyfriend. The partner doesn't have the same slim body and probably just as old. Will try again to see if I can get more but it's worth it just for the massage.Mouth release was covered or uncovered?

Roger1286
02-24-18, 08:51
A few weeks ago I tried to hit up Angel but they were busy. I had limited time available and hadn't made a backup plan so I did some quick searching and decided to try a place I'd seen advertised but never visited. It was called Smooth Water, located in Fairfax, but unless you were specifically looking you'd probably never find it. I think the building is a combination of apartments and businesses. Anyway, the place was on the lower level and I headed down the elevator. I knocked on the door and was let right in. The place itself is very small, no waiting area, or two door entryway like I'm used to. I was led to the main (only) room that was divided by a curtain in the middle. They were leading someone else out the same door, but from the other side of the curtain, and so I just waited and avoided eye contact.

Onto the massage itself. I can't recall my providers name, but she was middle age +, but very nice and I found her attractive. The table shower was really a sponge bath on the massage table. It wasn't bad, but definitely not my thing. I thought the massage itself was really good, she used hot stones and towels and overall a really nice experience. A little light teasing, and on the flip some more overt attempts. Received a standard nova finish with some OTC / UTC roaming. A little additional shoulder / neck massage after cleaning everything up and I was on my way. Now, this is where something happened that I have never experienced before. On my way out, she stamps a card and hands it to me. She says to come back and I'll get a stamp each time, and when the card is full I'll get a free massage?! I think I left speechless, but now I have to laugh. I will admit that I did ditch the card upon walking out. I don't need an odd reminder like that being left around and found at some random point, but I have never received a stamp card at any AMP I've ever been to. Also, while the massage was good and the ending was as expected, the strangeness of the room setup and location left me a little uneasy so I'm not likely to repeat.

She did also say she had some younger friends that would be joining her in the next few weeks and that I should come back and try the 4-hand massage out. We'll see if my resolve crumbles, I just hope she doesn't ask me for the card if I go back.Over the years, I have been to many places that give out the cards. Some have half off after 5 visits. Most of these places are not in NOVA. The thing that I notice is that often they note the date of the visit and the provider initials / signs them. I guess that does show that you have been there before and maybe the level of service that is associated with the initialed provider. I usually pitch them because at 100-120 a pop, I ask myself: Am I willing to spend a thousand bucks to get a freebie? At least for me the answer is no, as I would rather spend it exploring the other options. Back in the 80's, God I am old, there was a great FS spa run by some white country gals on Rt. 30 west of Gettysburg that kept a 3 x5 index card on file for each customer. They kept the details and some info of the proclivities and after a certain number of visits you got a freebie. I must say I spent enough there and was surprised that they actually did keep track and I got the "this one is free" visit and the owner came out and said she would be the provider. I guess she had read the details of my proclivities and wanted some. Sh*t I miss those days.

MrSunnyHills
02-24-18, 14:50
It's fun for us old guys to reminisce. Since we started before the internet, there were more challenges. I recall an early visit to an MP in the LA area when I was about 22 and I expected a good Asian massage and perhaps a decent finish. Next thing you know she asked if I wanted a condom. I had no idea about tipping, and didn't have much cash, but said yes. She of course didn't have to work very hard for me to come, but was a bit pissed at my poor tip. I said "I'll bring more" next time. But as I gained experience, it was usually the MMS was usually the best keeper of the "index card in her head" which would always lead to extra benefits. I recall one time, my gal asked if her "friend" could join. I said "no, I don't have any extra". She said. Don't worry she's bored. No extra cost. Ended up with one on me ACG and the other on my face. Of course in those days I was young and in shape so maybe they liked the change from the more common customer (which is what I now am).


Over the years, I have been to many places that give out the cards. Some have half off after 5 visits. Most of these places are not in NOVA. The thing that I notice is that often they note the date of the visit and the provider initials / signs them. I guess that does show that you have been there before and maybe the level of service that is associated with the initialed provider. I usually pitch them because at 100-120 a pop, I ask myself: Am I willing to spend a thousand bucks to get a freebie? At least for me the answer is no, as I would rather spend it exploring the other options. Back in the 80's, God I am old, there was a great FS spa run by some white country gals on Rt. 30 west of Gettysburg that kept a 3 x5 index card on file for each customer. They kept the details and some info of the proclivities and after a certain number of visits you got a freebie. I must say I spent enough there and was surprised that they actually did keep track and I got the "this one is free" visit and the owner came out and said she would be the provider. I guess she had read the details of my proclivities and wanted some. Sh*t I miss those days.

VangDr
02-24-18, 16:32
I am up in Fairfax on business for a few weeks and I wanted to know if anyone had good intel on a decent AMP. Happy ending is fine with me.

Thanks.

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02-24-18, 18:42
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Tom McAn
02-24-18, 18:44
Over the years, I have been to many places that give out the cards. Some have half off after 5 visits. Most of these places are not in NOVA. The thing that I notice is that often they note the date of the visit and the provider initials / signs them. I guess that does show that you have been there before and maybe the level of service that is associated with the initialed provider. I usually pitch them because at 100-120 a pop, I ask myself: Am I willing to spend a thousand bucks to get a freebie? At least for me the answer is no, as I would rather spend it exploring the other options. Back in the 80's, God I am old, there was a great FS spa run by some white country gals on Rt. 30 west of Gettysburg that kept a 3 x5 index card on file for each customer. They kept the details and some info of the proclivities and after a certain number of visits you got a freebie. I must say I spent enough there and was surprised that they actually did keep track and I got the "this one is free" visit and the owner came out and said she would be the provider. I guess she had read the details of my proclivities and wanted some. Sh*t I miss those days.I used to travel quite a bit around the mid-Atlantic in the mid-and-late 1990's. I lost my MP cherry at a spot west of Gettysburg about 25 years ago. If I recall correctly, Silkflowers was the name of the place. I don't recall their having such a system, and if they did they didn't tell me. Silkflowers changed hands about a year or so following my first visit and I stopped going after a couple of unimpressive visits under the new ownership. There was another place a few miles to the west on Route 30, up near the mountain, but I never returned there following a bad experience.

I recall there were a couple of places in or around Harrisburg that gave cards to mongers; the cards were marked or punched on each visit. Supposedly I would have gotten a freebie once the card was filled, but Uncle LEO shut them down long before that happened.

Getting back closer to home, I can't recall ever receiving such cards or offers of freebies at any MP or AMP in or around the DC region. There were some individual providers at various establishments who offered me upgraded levels of service for repeat visits, but that was about it.

Krakatoa
02-24-18, 23:43
I am up in Fairfax on business for a few weeks and I wanted to know if anyone had good intel on a decent AMP. Happy ending is fine with me.

Thanks.What part of town are you in?

Any Mouse
02-25-18, 08:18
Your inbox is full. Send me a note. Am.

PomLovesThais
02-25-18, 10:04
I used to travel quite a bit around the mid-Atlantic in the mid-and-late 1990's. I lost my MP cherry at a spot west of Gettysburg about 25 years ago. If I recall correctly, Silkflowers was the name of the place. I don't recall their having such a system, and if they did they didn't tell me. Silkflowers changed hands about a year or so following my first visit and I stopped going after a couple of unimpressive visits under the new ownership. There was another place a few miles to the west on Route 30, up near the mountain, but I never returned there following a bad experience.

I recall there were a couple of places in or around Harrisburg that gave cards to mongers; the cards were marked or punched on each visit. Supposedly I would have gotten a freebie once the card was filled, but Uncle LEO shut them down long before that happened.

Getting back closer to home, I can't recall ever receiving such cards or offers of freebies at any MP or AMP in or around the DC region. There were some individual providers at various establishments who offered me upgraded levels of service for repeat visits, but that was about it.I think this was then called miss Lindsey's west of Gettysburg. It's just reopened as a strip club. With extras.

Interesting there is also a place not to far from there called the cottage.

Which is a swingers club but has no reviews or comments anywhere.

TheBarbarian
02-25-18, 15:13
I've crossed a few times and have thoroughly enjoyed myself. Thing is, I can get a normal provider who is hotter, for better rates and don't have to drive as far. Nevertheless, good experience for NOVA folks.


There has been discussion here that we Virginia folk should consider crossing the great divide of the Potomac to experience. Well - more.

I read the PG board where the listed locations are discussed. I did a tour that consisted of visiting each one to inquire about initial price, ask to see their table shower and the massage room. Here is my report:

Diamond. No sign. I had to search the building to find what looked like the place in the basement. The mamasan showed me the rooms. One had a door. Others just a curtain The place felt creepy to me. I passed.

Rising Star -no sign. Good location, second floor. Looked ok. But front door blocked with an iron screen security door. Mamsan would not let me enter unless I agreed to a massage. Could be good, but I moved on.

TWBC -no sign. So so location. Place had a 1950's feel to it. Mamasan did not want to show me around.

TK. Nice office building location. Like TWBC the place looked thrown together. But Mamsan was nice. The standard one hour massage at all these places (except at TK) is 0. 6 for an hour. TK was 0. 7.

VIP. Acupuncture sign. I actually visited this place second and then returned after the others. Good location. Easy Parking. Very nice young mamasan. This looks much like a legit massage place. Very clean, bright and open with light. The mamasan showed me a room which looked better than any I have visited. The table shower was busy, so I told her I would come back. After the other visits above I did come back. I am glad I did. By far the prettiest therapist I have ever had. A very good massage. The table shower explored parts of my body that are typically enclosed in darkness. I did not negotiate with my provider. Instead I gave all the money I had (a reasonable amount bringing the total under $1. 9) and told her to have her way with me. She happily agreed and locked the door. The best AMP experience I have had followed. It was a full experience.

It was splendid. I got her name, but she asked me to to publish it.

So, I do recommend crossing the river occasionally. With the exception of Diamond, any of these places could be good on a given day. VIP was good on the day I visited.

NyHornet
02-25-18, 17:36
A few weeks ago I tried to hit up Angel but they were busy. I had limited time available and hadn't made a backup plan so I did some quick searching and decided to try a place I'd seen advertised but never visited. It was called Smooth Water, located in Fairfax, but unless you were specifically looking you'd probably never find it. I think the building is a combination of apartments and businesses. Anyway, the place was on the lower level and I headed down the elevator. I knocked on the door and was let right in. The place itself is very small, no waiting area, or two door entryway like I'm used to. I was led to the main (only) room that was divided by a curtain in the middle. They were leading someone else out the same door, but from the other side of the curtain, and so I just waited and avoided eye contact.

Onto the massage itself. I can't recall my providers name, but she was middle age +, but very nice and I found her attractive. The table shower was really a sponge bath on the massage table. It wasn't bad, but definitely not my thing. I thought the massage itself was really good, she used hot stones and towels and overall a really nice experience. A little light teasing, and on the flip some more overt attempts. Received a standard nova finish with some OTC / UTC roaming. A little additional shoulder / neck massage after cleaning everything up and I was on my way. Now, this is where something happened that I have never experienced before. On my way out, she stamps a card and hands it to me. She says to come back and I'll get a stamp each time, and when the card is full I'll get a free massage?! I think I left speechless, but now I have to laugh. I will admit that I did ditch the card upon walking out. I don't need an odd reminder like that being left around and found at some random point, but I have never received a stamp card at any AMP I've ever been to. Also, while the massage was good and the ending was as expected, the strangeness of the room setup and location left me a little uneasy so I'm not likely to repeat.

She did also say she had some younger friends that would be joining her in the next few weeks and that I should come back and try the 4-hand massage out. We'll see if my resolve crumbles, I just hope she doesn't ask me for the card if I go back.A number of the Chinese AMPs I've visited over the last several years have had cards offering a free one after 10, or 50% off after 5. That sort of thing. I actually have a full card for Top Massage in Manassas for 50% off burning a hole in my pocket. The places with cards seem to be generally massage only, but also depends on the provider.

NyHornet
02-25-18, 17:45
A number of the Chinese AMPs I've visited over the last several years have had cards offering a free one after 10, or 50% off after 5. That sort of thing. I actually have a full card for Top Massage in Manassas for 50% off burning a hole in my pocket. The places with cards seem to be generally massage only, but also depends on the provider.These were primarily in the Woodbridge and Manassas areas, but I also remember KK having a frequent visitor card when she had her spa. Good deal if it's a place you go to often.

VangDr
02-26-18, 07:45
What part of town are you in?Fair Oaks Mall.

Krakatoa
02-28-18, 00:08
Fair Oaks Mall.Not an area I frequent. I'd be inclined to get on the parkway and go north to Herndon, where there are several reasonable options.

Mustang946
02-28-18, 20:53
While waiting for my iPhone battery to be replaced, I stopped in and had the pleasure of seeing Linda aka Coco again. Another fantastic session. She is leaving near the end of March for vacation. There will be some new girls rotating in and out. I saw Nana on the way out and said hello.

WalterKovacs
03-01-18, 00:26
While waiting for my iPhone battery to be replaced, I stopped in and had the pleasure of seeing Linda aka Coco again. Another fantastic session. She is leaving near the end of March for vacation. There will be some new girls rotating in and out. I saw Nana on the way out and said hello.Does Linda / Coco do FS or BBBJ? Pm response if need be.

BronsonCruz
03-01-18, 17:49
A bit tired of Chinese and Korean operated AMPs in Herndon, Reston and Sterling. Anyone know of AMPs with Latinas in these areas? Thanks.

DcManLive
03-02-18, 10:21
A bit tired of Chinese and Korean operated AMPs in Herndon, Reston and Sterling. Anyone know of AMPs with Latinas in these areas? Thanks.Search "Latin Touch" on BP massages.

Member #5777
03-02-18, 12:21
Will be in the Fairfax area next week, looking for a clean decent provider.

Not into FS, unless it just happens to happen, but clean and discrete is best.

Thank you.

DcManLive
03-02-18, 15:07
Will be in the Fairfax area next week, looking for a clean decent provider.

Not into FS, unless it just happens to happen, but clean and discrete is best.

Thank you.That's like saying I will be in New York. Fairfax is over 400 square miles.

Member #5777
03-02-18, 17:29
That's like saying I will be in New York. Fairfax is over 400 square miles.Fairfax City, not county. And its only 391 sq miles of land.

Member #6066
03-04-18, 10:58
Search "Latin Touch" on BP massages.I've been to Latin Touch twice and have drawn Giovanna (black dress hair covering face in ad) she's a nice girl with a great body but overall nothing to write home about for overall experience. I've been wanting to try Sandra (pink dress in ad) but have been unable to. I scheduled a recent appt and drew Leah (black dress back turned ad) but had to cancel. Has anyone had a session with Leah? If so how was she?

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/latin-touch-massage-vip/20803208

NyHornet
03-04-18, 13:15
Anyone know the story on this Digges road place? Have been many times and it's the best place in Manassas, but, I think it was last Monday that I went and door was locked and no answer on phone. Haven't seen any ads since and they typically advertise Daily. Nice, attractive ladies who gave quality massage and experience.

NyHornet
03-04-18, 13:18
Anyone know the story on this Digges road place? Have been many times and it's the best place in Manassas, but, I think it was last Monday that I went and door was locked and no answer on phone. Haven't seen any ads since and they typically advertise Daily. Nice, attractive ladies who gave quality massage and experience.Now I see they have there ad on Craigslist, rather than BP. May go back tomorrow.

Monkey16
03-04-18, 14:01
Anyone know the story on this Digges road place? Have been many times and it's the best place in Manassas, but, I think it was last Monday that I went and door was locked and no answer on phone. Haven't seen any ads since and they typically advertise Daily. Nice, attractive ladies who gave quality massage and experience.I tried calling Friday night between 7-9. No answer. Drove by and it was empty. So went up the street to the other one on Digges.

VAmongerman
03-04-18, 17:12
Based off this review I headed to Bamboo. I was initially thrown off at how old the lady was but went with it. I also had Julia and she was great to my surprise. After doing a bit of flirting with her at the start once the lights dimmed she became playful and roaming. One of the best massages I've ever had. The attention to detail was key! Walked on my back and more! On the flip she went to soft touch that immediately got my attention. She started working on my soldier but I wanted the mouth release and whispered if she can do mouth. She shhh'd me and went back to work. Release wasn't explosive which was probably more my fault than anything. She resumed the massage for another 30 minutes. It was soo good and relaxing I fell asleep. She later introduced me to her partner as her new boyfriend. The partner doesn't have the same slim body and probably just as old. Will try again to see if I can get more but it's worth it just for the massage.I tried but I'm not returning. There is much better value out there! It's not BBBJCIM, more like mouth assisted HJ with no mouth in sight at the moment of truth. As such, I paid 60/60 and felt I overpaid, especially given the age and provider "build".

LetsGiveItATry
03-05-18, 17:14
I've been to Latin Touch twice and have drawn Giovanna (black dress hair covering face in ad) she's a nice girl with a great body but overall nothing to write home about for overall experience. I've been wanting to try Sandra (pink dress in ad) but have been unable to. I scheduled a recent appt and drew Leah (black dress back turned ad) but had to cancel. Has anyone had a session with Leah? If so how was she?

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/latin-touch-massage-vip/20803208I was the first person to review Sandra I Spa Hunters and I must say she was a delight. I wasn't too thrilled with her appearance at first, but once the session began, my attitude changed. Upon the second visit, she remembered me and it was a very pleasant experience. I used to see Isabella and she was amazing, too bad she left.

BronsonCruz
03-06-18, 14:25
Search "Latin Touch" on BP massages.Thanks. Will check it out soon.

Member #5777
03-06-18, 18:05
Any share on this establishment? Will be within my travel area next week.

Thnks.

JmSuttr
03-06-18, 19:31
Any share on this establishment? Will be within my travel area next week.

Thnks.Have you tried the search function? IIRC, this establishment has been discussed before and a name search should turn up actionable intel.

OldBoomer
03-06-18, 21:10
Any share on this establishment? Will be within my travel area next week.

Thnks.Search the forum you will find several discussions.

IME generally pretty good. Clean safe place. Standard donations. Good Table shower good massage good finish. Treat the ladies nice and things always go better.

Member #5777
03-07-18, 08:26
Search the forum you will find several discussions.

IME generally pretty good. Clean safe place. Standard donations. Good Table shower good massage good finish. Treat the ladies nice and things always go better.Appreciate that, the search works, but alot changes in 3 months. Thanks again.

JmSuttr
03-07-18, 19:01
Appreciate that, the search works, but alot changes in 3 months. Thanks again.Even if a monger posts about a recent visit, things can still change at a moment's notice. Maybe the place had a LEO visit and shut down or temporarily stopped doing extras.

IMHO, when a visitor does a search for specific AMPs or providers it accomplishes a few things. First, it shows local forum members that they're serious because they've done homework on their own, as much as possible, before asking for help. Second, the search might show the place they're thinking about is totally legit and not worth pursuing. Third, the search might turn up specific positive or negative info that could help with better and more specific questions. For example, there might be juicy info about a particular girl and so it would be a good question to ask if she's still there. Just my two-cents worth.

Apolo106
03-09-18, 18:05
I was the first person to review Sandra I Spa Hunters and I must say she was a delight. I wasn't too thrilled with her appearance at first, but once the session began, my attitude changed. Upon the second visit, she remembered me and it was a very pleasant experience. I used to see Isabella and she was amazing, too bad she left.Had time to burn after work, place located inside a university. Interesting because there is a guard in the lobby. You just take the elevator to 2nd floor all the way toward the back of a hallway. Met Sandra, middle age south american lady, nice natural tits, her picture is accurate. Menu expanded after a few visits. Again, treating lady with respect goes a long way. Haven't seen other therapists when I went there. Not a lot latin place in the DMV area. I would go again but it's quite a drive for me. They also provide other spa treatments if you are interested.

TheOuroboros
03-09-18, 22:21
I've been to Latin Touch twice and have drawn Giovanna (black dress hair covering face in ad) she's a nice girl with a great body but overall nothing to write home about for overall experience. I've been wanting to try Sandra (pink dress in ad) but have been unable to. I scheduled a recent appt and drew Leah (black dress back turned ad) but had to cancel. Has anyone had a session with Leah? If so how was she?

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/latin-touch-massage-vip/20803208I've been to Latin Touch quite a number of times. Giovanna is a bust, drawn her multiple times and it's always the same, topless HJ with no room for improvements on future visits. Leah on the otherhand is a sweet girl. I've had a few sessions with her and she's a lot more receptive than Gio. Everything is on the menu if you play your cards right.

Bossanova86
03-10-18, 20:01
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/experience-the-bliss-of-tantric-massage/42997057

I was really god damn bored, so god damn bored and I wanted to try something new. I've seen this person like a few years ago and made a review on that visit (spoiler alert: wasn't great) but I decided to take another dive once more to see if the performance and services improved, the TLDR is no, not even close, even worse actually. I really don't have much to say other than I think her service is more catered to her own weird bizarro sexual desires of cuddling, coddling and mothering. Absolutely zero massage and zero 'tantra' was had, the place was dirty and it smelled, the sheets weren't clean at all, it wreaked of soiled sheets, baked in sweats and farts. This might be considered the saddest nova finish I've ever had in my time mongering. It was really bad and on top of that it's the f**king pits to park there, I ended up finding a parking spot (not actually one, improvised spot) in a lot around this really big condo complex that is split up in to 4 wings in Rosslyn. Gents just do yourself a favor and don't go, not even worth a trip, not even a click on the ad. The only good thing to come out of it was that I was able to shower and clean myself up before leaving so I wouldn't make the track back home with the stank on me.

DC002
03-10-18, 22:17
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/experience-the-bliss-of-tantric-massage/42997057

I was really god damn bored, so god damn bored and I wanted to try something new. I've seen this person like a few years ago and made a review on that visit (spoiler alert: wasn't great) but I decided to take another dive once more to see if the performance and services improved, the TLDR is no, not even close, even worse actually. I really don't have much to say other than I think her service is more catered to her own weird bizarro sexual desires of cuddling, coddling and mothering. Absolutely zero massage and zero 'tantra' was had, the place was dirty and it smelled, the sheets weren't clean at all, it wreaked of soiled sheets, baked in sweats and farts. This might be considered the saddest nova finish I've ever had in my time mongering. It was really bad and on top of that it's the f**king pits to park there, I ended up finding a parking spot (not actually one, improvised spot) in a lot around this really big condo complex that is split up in to 4 wings in Rosslyn. Gents just do yourself a favor and don't go, not even worth a trip, not even a click on the ad. The only good thing to come out of it was that I was able to shower and clean myself up before leaving so I wouldn't make the track back home with the stank on me.Thanks for report. Still can't believe you tried it after seeing the pictures. Definitely not a spinner! . just a joke? Sorry for comments but pics blew me away. .

Amp Forever
03-10-18, 22:32
Was looking for something new and came across an ad for Sun Therapy in Annandale. Couldn't find any info. But was intrigued that is it is in the former home of one of my ATF. Peach, which was featured in a Washington Post article and subsequently closed its doors. While I don't expect to see the same level of performance as Peach gave, especially YoYo, I am curious if anyone has tried it out. Any Info would be appreciated; if not, I may be able to TOFTT this week.

Pcpc1688
03-10-18, 23:14
Thanks for report. Still can't believe you tried it after seeing the pictures. Definitely not a spinner! . just a joke? Sorry for comments but pics blew me away. .Your were beyond bored man LOL. Like you coulda taken a stroll down Rt1.

She couldn't have paid me to touch her let alone touch me. Geezzzz Jesus.

PC out.

BayouJ
03-11-18, 09:23
Your were beyond bored man LOL. Like you coulda taken a stroll down Rt1.

She couldn't have paid me to touch her let alone touch me. Geezzzz Jesus.

PC out.Mistakes were made. Lesson was learned.

GlockEm17
03-12-18, 20:08
Stopped by this pm. No wait. Paid standard. 8 house fee. Doll spinner wouldn't tell me name. Body to die for and said she is 50. I know they age well but never thought that old. Great massage little oil, then the feather touch and hair up and down. On the flip asked how much, told her. 6 off came the top, again dam! Good finish, cleaned up and away with a big ole smile. Probably will dream about her somemore. Been 2 years since last visit since I normally doing Richmond, Newport News area. Wish I was up here more!

LetsGiveItATry
03-12-18, 20:29
I met Kelly, a late 30's early 40's Chinese woman. She was beautiful and she gave me a wonderful massage. She didn't miss one spot and the HE was very sensual and erotic. She let me rom OTC, but she appears to have a nice body for her age. I will repeat just to see her.

http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/571-575-8888-4-hands-grand-opening-asian-massage-free-shower/43013752

Barkeater
03-13-18, 05:51
Stopped by Pine Wellness in Herndon last night. Had my usual good time. The girls there tend to be a little bit younger and cuter than elsewhere in the area, and I generally have a great time there.

Got Linda, a short little thing, who was fun and gave a great massage. After the flip the top came off, revealing perky girls and a nice tan body. Standard NOVA finish. Damage was .8 + .8.

Be safe out there.

Soco21
03-13-18, 20:21
Hello gents wanted to know if anyone had any info on her? Feel free to pm me.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/attractive-older-asian-571-778-9556-near-centreville/42977867

TheOuroboros
03-13-18, 21:00
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-manager-aromatherapy-essential-oils-to-relax-perfect-feel-571-594-3430/46989112

After getting blown off by one of the independents, I started hunting down ads for AMPs near the area and stumbled across this ad and figured I'd TOFFT. I dreamed that I went to this spa and was greeted by an older Asian lady who if you told me she was 40 I'd believe you but could have been older it's always impossible to tell. She wasn't attractive enough for me to gamble on an hour with no payoff so I opted for half hour at. 5 Kinda regret that I did because while the massage was so so, she did tease and when the flip came, she tried to play coy which turned me on. She teased some more and got really into it caressing and blowing on junior. I lifted her shirt up and peeled open her bra to reveal a juicy pair of melons that I began to suck on as she moaned and stroked me. We kissed and I gave her jugs one more hard squeeze before I exploded all over my stomach. She cleaned me up and playfully kissed junior before giving me another massage for 5 more minutes to complete the half hour.

Total damage $. 0.

Kinda regret not staying longer but they offer a 4 hand for $90, I would like to try in another dream and get a better grip on the massage skills, and especially if they both can replicate that passion and give twice the sparks.

Tom McAn
03-14-18, 00:40
Hello gents wanted to know if anyone had any info on her? Feel free to pm me.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/attractive-older-asian-571-778-9556-near-centreville/42977867Search the massage parlor and BP advertiser forums for info on these providers. "Clifton farmhouse" is the most common search term to look for. My visit last summer was disappointing; others have had similar results but there are other mongers who had a better time.

NyHornet
03-14-18, 13:20
Search the massage parlor and BP advertiser forums for info on these providers. "Clifton farmhouse" is the most common search term to look for. My visit last summer was disappointing; others have had similar results but there are other mongers who had a better time.The lady I saw was not like the photos. She was an A cup and pretty much a disappointment on all facets. I have thought about trying again for the other one, but haven't yet. Not sure if their is a rotation of more than two.

Big Daddy Don
03-14-18, 17:40
Your were beyond bored man LOL. Like you coulda taken a stroll down Rt1.

She couldn't have paid me to touch her let alone touch me. Geezzzz Jesus.

PC out.GOOD LORD MAN! I clicked on the link out of curiosity. I still taste a little bile in the back of my mouth. What were you thinking?

Big Daddy Don
03-14-18, 17:41
Was looking for something new and came across an ad for Sun Therapy in Annandale. Couldn't find any info. But was intrigued that is it is in the former home of one of my ATF. Peach, which was featured in a Washington Post article and subsequently closed its doors. While I don't expect to see the same level of performance as Peach gave, especially YoYo, I am curious if anyone has tried it out. Any Info would be appreciated; if not, I may be able to TOFTT this week.Went there a few years back. Certainly nothing special. Never bothered again.

Ashoka
03-14-18, 19:43
Just a public service announcement. Saw the one and only Coco this week and she's top of her game as always. But: she mentioned that this coming Sunday is her last day for four months. Taking an extended break, apparently. I expect the divorce rate in NOVA to spike. I can't go again this weekend, my loss, but if you want to get your last shot with her til summer in, I'd get a move on.

Mustang946
03-14-18, 21:53
GOOD LORD MAN! I clicked on the link out of curiosity. I still taste a little bile in the back of my mouth. What were you thinking?This is where 10 foot poles come in to play.

Any Mouse
03-15-18, 00:07
Felt the itch this afternoon, so stopped by Blue. Had called ahead and made appointment with "June", but when the door opened, it wasn't the June I remembered. I should have cut and run then, but. I stayed. Big Mistake! Whoever she was gave the absolutely Worst massage I can remember. It was supposed to be Acupressure, I suppose, but it was way too hard for me and she wouldn't stop when I asked her to ease up. The pain only subsided when I told her that if she hit one of my sensitive spots (recent back surgery) again that I was leaving. No pretense at being friendly, no teasing or flirting whatsoever. Shorted almost 15 min on time. Guess what? Will not go back to Blue any time soon, or until I am sure this excuse for a masseuse has departed. Damage: . 8/. 1. AM.

Titan Omega
03-15-18, 10:04
Saw GripNSip report and was in the area and decided to give this spot a try.

Was kinda put off as its on the third floor of a medical / office building. Directly across is a Dentist office and on the other side by the elevator is a Private Investigators office.

There's no identifying labels on the door so I guess that's a plus. Dreamed that I was greeted at the door by an older very skinny woman who barely spoke english. I wanted to get the 4 hands but she was trying to either understand me or tell me something but I couldn't understand. Decided to come back another time for the 4 hands to get the 30 min, then was told the 1 hour was only. 10 more. Went with that and was ushered into a room. The same girl performed and it was kinda off. There was no music and she didn't speak english so when I would try to strike up a convo or compliment her it was just silent. You can also hear everything going on in the adjacent office. Massage also was kinda weak for about 30 minutes then she really started to add pressure and hit the right spots. I had to look up to make sure it was the same girl. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded. Above average finish with nursing and next level moaning. The massage continued for another 10 minutes and I was ushered out.

Wish I was able to see the other girl working but I'll definitely come back for the 4 hands but if I'm in the area I might give it another try.


http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-manager-aromatherapy-essential-oils-to-relax-perfect-feel-571-594-3430/46989112

After getting blown off by one of the independents, I started hunting down ads for AMPs near the area and stumbled across this ad and figured I'd TOFFT. I dreamed that I went to this spa and was greeted by an older Asian lady who if you told me she was 40 I'd believe you but could have been older it's always impossible to tell. She wasn't attractive enough for me to gamble on an hour with no payoff so I opted for half hour at. 5 Kinda regret that I did because while the massage was so so, she did tease and when the flip came, she tried to play coy which turned me on. She teased some more and got really into it caressing and blowing on junior. I lifted her shirt up and peeled open her bra to reveal a juicy pair of melons that I began to suck on as she moaned and stroked me. We kissed and I gave her jugs one more hard squeeze before I exploded all over my stomach. She cleaned me up and playfully kissed junior before giving me another massage for 5 more minutes to complete the half hour.

Total damage $. 0.

Kinda regret not staying longer but they offer a 4 hand for $90, I would like to try in another dream and get a better grip on the massage skills, and especially if they both can replicate that passion and give twice the sparks.

Pcpc1688
03-16-18, 10:59
GOOD LORD MAN! I clicked on the link out of curiosity. I still taste a little bile in the back of my mouth. What were you thinking?Wasnt me LOL. It was Bossanova that TOFFT like yeah he did.

PC out.

AznVrep
03-16-18, 13:37
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/experience-the-bliss-of-tantric-massage/42997057
it wreaked of soiled sheets, baked in sweats and farts. Haha. This is a quality report right here.

Iceolated
03-17-18, 09:55
Saw Diamond few days ago at Healing.

After the shower, I faced down for the hh massage. ST was above average with standard NOVA.

Overall good session but I felt like I was a little rushed.

Was wondering if anyone else was able to get more with her or if there's more on the menu?

Lioil
03-17-18, 10:50
Does Linda / Coco do FS or BBBJ? Pm response if need be.No. They do not. Even jenny whom I have seen multiple times only go as far as letting me daty for 1/2 hour.

VaPlay
03-17-18, 12:12
Looking for the best quality massage with and expanded menu in or near Manassas. Quality massage meaning therapeutic or close to, and at least a BJ, preferably F / S. Don't mind investing for a few visits to obtain it but don't want to throw money away either. Feel free to PM if your holding one in your pocket.

Member #5834
03-17-18, 12:35
P2 P and DATY is the furthest they go. Likely a strict rule from MMSN.

Candy is gone, but will return at some point. Jenny still there (but only on weekends) and not sure if Nana is still around. I didn't think she would last.

2 new ladies arrived. Had a dream with Kay (late 30's?) , tall, very thin everywhere. Not on Coco's level, but Coco is hard to beat for that level of service and $. Kay gave a good massage that went harder as it went along, but was very shy. Didn't reach the normal level of service for Angels. Very nice NOVA finish. Insisted on helping me dress and filled out the time with a very nice scalp / face massage. I will try again to see if she goes the Angel limit.

Didn't see Sharon, the other new arrival.


No. They do not. Even jenny whom I have seen multiple times only go as far as letting me daty for 1/2 hour.

Wahooboy94
03-18-18, 16:37
Sorry for the delay, visited Bamboo last week on a Thursday mid-afternoon.

Quite a nice set-up in such an older looking building on the corner of Commerce and. Backlick? Greeted by an older (consistent with other visitors) but very petite and still attractive Korean provider.

I paid for an hour and undressed and laid on the table. I had just taken a shower at home, but she still rubbed me down with a hot towel.

Massage was pretty good. Conversation was pleasant. Reminiscent of the massages I used to get from Sarah at the old Comfort Therapeutic location a few years ago. Very relaxing, nice hands.

The soft touch was fantastic. Make no mistake, NOVA standard finish and she remained fully clothed. But she paid a lot of attention to my derriere (cupping, stroking, etc) then began to reach under me for mini-me. I raised up on all fours to give her better access. Once I was rock hard, she had me turn over and finished with a standard HJ. Like an earlier review, I didn't get the "explosive finish" -- not sure if that was a result of her technique or because I was distracted or something. I just started cumming all over the place. Weird. Regardless, I will go back.

DrSchwanzstein
03-18-18, 20:02
I wanted to share this for those of us who are already feeling nostalgic by Coco's protracted upcoming Vacation. I have found Coco's double not in an AMP but in a Japanese restaurant as a waitress.

I was visiting NYC this week and decided on a whim to try a Japanese restaurant. With over 500 Japanese restaurants to chose from I decided on Donburiya in Midtown (55th and 8th Ave). I was seated at the Bar and I looked up at one of the waitresses that passed by me. I said to myself "oh my god she looks exactly like Coco". Her face was exactly like Coco (only difference slightly puffy on the cheeks), she looked a few years younger, long hair slightly lighter, same height and contour (not thick by looking at her pants). Much to my dismay she was serving the tables not the bar, but every time she passed my field of vision in the bar to fetch a drink I tried to glance at her without staring because I was still in disbelief. She did not make any eye contact with me which I did not expect until the surprise at the end. After I payed and was about to leave my seat, she approached me gave me a beautiful smile and said "Thank you". I melted at her feet.

BTW the food was good too.

SS.

Titan Omega
03-19-18, 09:50
I was in the Lake Ridge / Woodbridge area and did a quick search on CL instead of doing a search here, mistake. I ended up at Euphoric Massages. Beautiful asian women all over the place. They offered table showers and I dreamt I saw a tissue box right next to the lotion so I thought it was a solid pick. Typical AMP convo with compliments and dreamed there was some roaming on her part. On the flip she looked away as I turned around. I figured she was going to hand me off to someone else for the shower / finish. I was wrong. Best massage I've had but she definitely played me with the finish.

Out of frustration I went to my go to AMP in Woodbridge. Everything was going well until we're a minute into the flip and you hear a loud banging on the parlor door. You hear another women start screaming out in korean which lead to complete chaos. She throws a towel over me and runs out the door and locks it from the outside. You can hear the officers talking and walking around and I'm freaking out. Turns out it was just an inspection but my heart was racing too much to even finish. I let her know its ok I'll just go and she got real suspicious of me and walked out the room and came back with another AMP in a black teddy / gown and offered to 4 hand me. I couldn't resist especially since I already tipped for way less than the 4 hands experience. While the skinny girl cleaned me up the other one grabbed my pants and emptied my pockets on to the counter. I asked what's going on and she said that it fell out my pockets. Definitely not returning.

Mustang946
03-19-18, 13:54
I wanted to share this for those of us who are already feeling nostalgic by Coco's protracted upcoming Vacation. I have found Coco's double not in an AMP but in a Japanese restaurant as a waitress.

I was visiting NYC this week and decided on a whim to try a Japanese restaurant. With over 500 Japanese restaurants to chose from I decided on Donburiya in Midtown (55th and 8th Ave). I was seated at the Bar and I looked up at one of the waitresses that passed by me. I said to myself "oh my god she looks exactly like Coco". Her face was exactly like Coco (only difference slightly puffy on the cheeks), she looked a few years younger, long hair slightly lighter, same height and contour (not thick by looking at her pants). Much to my dismay she was serving the tables not the bar, but every time she passed my field of vision in the bar to fetch a drink I tried to glance at her without staring because I was still in disbelief. She did not make any eye contact with me which I did not expect until the surprise at the end. After I payed and was about to leave my seat, she approached me gave me a beautiful smile and said "Thank you". I melted at her feet.

BTW the food was good too.

SS.Could have been a relative.

WalterKovacs
03-20-18, 10:54
I was in the Lake Ridge / Woodbridge area and did a quick search on CL instead of doing a search here, mistake. I ended up at Euphoric Massages. Beautiful asian women all over the place. They offered table showers and I dreamt I saw a tissue box right next to the lotion so I thought it was a solid pick. Typical AMP convo with compliments and dreamed there was some roaming on her part. On the flip she looked away as I turned around. I figured she was going to hand me off to someone else for the shower / finish. I was wrong. Best massage I've had but she definitely played me with the finish.

Out of frustration I went to my go to AMP in Woodbridge. Everything was going well until we're a minute into the flip and you hear a loud banging on the parlor door. You hear another women start screaming out in korean which lead to complete chaos. She throws a towel over me and runs out the door and locks it from the outside. You can hear the officers talking and walking around and I'm freaking out. Turns out it was just an inspection but my heart was racing too much to even finish. I let her know its ok I'll just go and she got real suspicious of me and walked out the room and came back with another AMP in a black teddy / gown and offered to 4 hand me. I couldn't resist especially since I already tipped for way less than the 4 hands experience. While the skinny girl cleaned me up the other one grabbed my pants and emptied my pockets on to the counter. I asked what's going on and she said that it fell out my pockets. Definitely not returning.Lmao bro what? PM what AMP this happened at.

Hugh Japenis
03-20-18, 14:06
Winchester. Craigslist. Org / thp / d / gentlemen-are-you-tired-of /6530022937. Html.

Has anyone tried them? I used the search function, and saw two conflicting reports. Don't want to waste my time driving an hour up for dissapointment.

RubMeLongTime
03-20-18, 14:31
Hit up smooth water in ffx city. Good news is there ate 3 providers, mid 30's plus.

My provider was Linda. Ok massage, ST was ok, standard nova finish with standard tip brought a pout as she was.

Looking for another Jackson. Service was not worth it so I said that's all I had. Not worth getting any more funds. On the way out saw a better looking provider on the phone with long black hair and she smiled at me.

If anyone gets the chance to give her a shot report back with results as she looked to be more my type.

Good luck.

-Rub.

KingSapa
03-20-18, 15:24
Wife will be gone for a couple weeks looking for massages. Lived in nova all my life but have only gotten massages outside the country somewhat new to this. Looking for good locations and tips on what its like in the area and what to expect. PM me if preferred.

The NewGuy
03-20-18, 15:49
I was in the Lake Ridge / Woodbridge area and did a quick search on CL instead of doing a search here, mistake. I ended up at Euphoric Massages. Beautiful asian women all over the place. They offered table showers and I dreamt I saw a tissue box right next to the lotion so I thought it was a solid pick. Typical AMP convo with compliments and dreamed there was some roaming on her part. On the flip she looked away as I turned around. I figured she was going to hand me off to someone else for the shower / finish. I was wrong. Best massage I've had but she definitely played me with the finish.

Out of frustration I went to my go to AMP in Woodbridge. Everything was going well until we're a minute into the flip and you hear a loud banging on the parlor door. You hear another women start screaming out in korean which lead to complete chaos. She throws a towel over me and runs out the door and locks it from the outside. You can hear the officers talking and walking around and I'm freaking out. Turns out it was just an inspection but my heart was racing too much to even finish. I let her know its ok I'll just go and she got real suspicious of me and walked out the room and came back with another AMP in a black teddy / gown and offered to 4 hand me. I couldn't resist especially since I already tipped for way less than the 4 hands experience. While the skinny girl cleaned me up the other one grabbed my pants and emptied my pockets on to the counter. I asked what's going on and she said that it fell out my pockets. Definitely not returning.Can you PM me which woodbridge location this happened? Thanks.

Procrast333
03-20-18, 22:21
Can you PM me which woodbridge location this happened? Thanks.Better: Tell us all. This sounds like serious Intel.

Drugrepva
03-21-18, 00:15
There is a group of girls that work out of an apartment in W Springfield. I'm pretty sure they have a website and / or post on BP. I paid a visit 3-4 weeks ago and now I can't find contact info. They're on the second floor of an older apartment complex that has the stairs on the side. There are also condos close by. Any help is appreciated!

Lohkey
03-21-18, 01:47
Better: Tell us all. This sounds like serious Intel.Pm you got to put that out there!

DcManLive
03-21-18, 09:59
There is a group of girls that work out of an apartment in W Springfield. I'm pretty sure they have a website and / or post on BP. I paid a visit 3-4 weeks ago and now I can't find contact info. They're on the second floor of an older apartment complex that has the stairs on the side. There are also condos close by. Any help is appreciated!Sounds like Halia, Elena, Victoria, Danielle at Ruby Models.

Halia and Elena are the 2 are constants there the other 2 and others come and go. But even Halia and Elena have been known to disappear at times, but they always seem to come back.

Pbarber307
03-21-18, 11:31
Wife will be gone for a couple weeks looking for massages....Your wife is looking for massages?

JmSuttr
03-21-18, 12:26
Wife will be gone for a couple weeks looking for massages. Lived in nova all my life but have only gotten massages outside the country somewhat new to this. Looking for good locations and tips on what its like in the area and what to expect. PM me if preferred.Since you're just starting out, and your questions are pretty broad, my best advice is for you to read back at least 10+ pages in the MP, Craigslist and BP Advertiser forums. You'll find most of the massage-related info in the MP and CL forums but there's also good stuff in the BP one.

By doing some extensive RTFF you'll not only gain direct intel but it'll also help you frame more specific questions. Another bonus is that you'll get a sense of which other forum members have informative posts and which ones have tastes similar to yours. And you can also benefit by doing forum searches for keywords (ex. Thai, Latina, specific locations, etc.) that match your particular interests and needs.

WalterKovacs
03-21-18, 14:15
Sounds like Halia, Elena, Victoria, Danielle at Ruby Models.

Halia and Elena are the 2 are constants there the other 2 and others come and go. But even Halia and Elena have been known to disappear at times, but they always seem to come back.Link or phone #?

KingSapa
03-21-18, 16:13
Since you're just starting out, and your questions are pretty broad, my best advice is for you to read back at least 10+ pages in the MP, Craigslist and BP Advertiser forums. You'll find most of the massage-related info in the MP and CL forums but there's also good stuff in the BP one.

By doing some extensive RTFF you'll not only gain direct intel but it'll also help you frame more specific questions. Another bonus is that you'll get a sense of which other forum members have informative posts and which ones have tastes similar to yours. And you can also benefit by doing forum searches for keywords (ex. Thai, Latina, specific locations, etc.) that match your particular interests and needs.Thanks! Ill start with your suggestions.

Skooby
03-21-18, 17:05
Out of frustration I went to my go to AMP in Woodbridge. Everything was going well until we're a minute into the flip and you hear a loud banging on the parlor door. You hear another women start screaming out in korean which lead to complete chaos. She throws a towel over me and runs out the door and locks it from the outside. You can hear the officers talking and walking around and I'm freaking out. Turns out it was just an inspection but my heart was racing too much to even finish. I let her know its ok I'll just go and she got real suspicious of me and walked out the room and came back with another AMP in a black teddy / gown and offered to 4 hand me. I couldn't resist especially since I already tipped for way less than the 4 hands experience. While the skinny girl cleaned me up the other one grabbed my pants and emptied my pockets on to the counter. I asked what's going on and she said that it fell out my pockets. Definitely not returning.I don't remember if I posted this or not but this happened to me as well. Last year at an AMP on Richmond Highway in Alexandria. Right after the flip I heard knocking and screaming saying "HEALTH INSPECTION!" I was really nervous!

Exact same experience except they arrested one of the girls. I didn't see it but heard it while still inside the room. I got dressed but I didn't leave. There was another monger that came in after me that was in another room as well. I heard them asking him all kinds of questions about where he worked and if he's a federal employee or politician. They was grilling him for about 10 minutes. I heard them tell him "alright, lets go into the other room for a minute"). I didn't hear what they was saying in there though.

The only thing they asked me was why was I there and how did I find out about the place (they said DON'T LIE EITHER!). I told the truth, I found the place on craigslist and came to get a massage. For me, nothing had happened yet. They said I wasn't under arrest and I could leave, so I left. I guess I didn't "look" like a typical professional. I didn't see the other guy in the main lobby when I left but there was an extra car out there that wasn't there when I first got there. I don't know if it was his or not but when I got there it was only my car and a minivan out there. When I left it was my car, minivan, a sedan type vehicle and 3 cars with the siren type lights on the dash. This happened late, around 8:00 pm on a rainy Thursday.

I haven't been there since but I happened to drive past there a couple of weeks ago and the massage sign is still up but there was a cop car with the lights off in an adjacent parking lot.

Jim Rob
03-21-18, 17:28
I always heard it's best never talk to police. Glad you didn't get in trouble for two consenting adults minding their own business.

I think I would not say a word to the cops, but am I more likely to get arrested?


I don't remember if I posted this or not but this happened to me as well. Last year at an AMP on Richmond Highway in Alexandria. Right after the flip I heard knocking and screaming saying "HEALTH INSPECTION! I was really nervous!

Exact same experience except they arrested one of the girls. I didn't see it but heard it while still inside the room. I got dressed but I didn't leave. There was another monger that came in after me that was in another room as well. I heard them asking him all kinds of questions about where he worked and if he's a federal employee or politician. They was grilling him for about 10 minutes. I heard them tell him "alright, lets go into the other room for a minute"). I didn't hear what they was saying in there though.

The only thing they asked me was why was I there and how did I find out about the place (they said DON'T LIE EITHER!). I told the truth, I found the place on craigslist and came to get a massage. For me, nothing had happened yet. They said I wasn't under arrest and I could leave, so I left. I guess I didn't "look" like a typical professional. I didn't see the other guy in the main lobby when I left but there was an extra car out there that wasn't there when I first got there. I don't know if it was his or not but when I got there it was only my car and a minivan out there. When I left it was my car, minivan, a sedan type vehicle and 3 cars with the siren type lights on the dash. This happened late, around 8:00 pm on a rainy Thursday.

I haven't been there since but I happened to drive past there a couple of weeks ago and the massage sign is still up but there was a cop car with the lights off in an adjacent parking lot.

BuckshotWatson
03-22-18, 14:29
Hadn't been here in a while, so stopped in for some wellness. Suzi (Suzy? Susie?) was the therapist. A little thicker than some, but I thought she had nice curves. She is probably in her 30's or 40's, but I'm a crappy judge of that. Pleasant looks, very pleasant personality, and spoke great English. The massage was fantastic. She knows what she is doing. She used a quality cream (not oil or Jergens lotion, thankfully), and it was an excellent experience (I really value a good therapeutic massage as part of the session). There was some nice teasing before the flip, and a good finish. After the massage, she pointed out some of my problem areas using proper names of muscles, etc. , and we talked a little about alternative medicine (she used to do massage at an acupuncture clinic).

I had stopped going after Scarlett left the building and a couple less than grand post-Scarlett sessions, but I will return to see Suzi.

Lioil
03-22-18, 21:28
Link or phone #?https://www.rubymodels.net/

Lioil
03-22-18, 21:31
I used to go to swan spa and was lucky to get BBBJ but they closed couple years ago. Wondering if there are any Chinese places with nova finish and roaming?

Happy Guy 2
03-22-18, 21:52
I used to go to swan spa and was lucky to get BBBJ but they closed couple years ago. Wondering if there are any Chinese places with nova finish and roaming?Lots in and. VA. Just go to Backpage, search and be nice!

Lioil
03-23-18, 01:13
I've been to Latin Touch quite a number of times. Giovanna is a bust, drawn her multiple times and it's always the same, topless HJ with no room for improvements on future visits. Leah on the otherhand is a sweet girl. I've had a few sessions with her and she's a lot more receptive than Gio. Everything is on the menu if you play your cards right.What kind of menu does leah have? Thinking of checking out this weekend.

OldTimeAmpLvr
03-23-18, 12:49
What kind of menu does leah have? Thinking of checking out this weekend.If you can get an appointment with her, go with Sandra. Will be glad you did. Top notch in all aspects.

RubMeLongTime
03-23-18, 20:00
I really enjoy this hobby, some days you just really get lucky on all fronts. Today was such a day. I like to visit CS massage in ffax on ffax blvd because they have a good group of ladies and my intention when I go there is to just relax and enjoy with no expectations. As mentioned previously I had to visit here at least 10 times before leaving happy and since then I think the girl at the front desk knows me and aligns the right girl with the right skill set when I cone. The biggest downside is the turn over of the lady's here, they only stick around for 2 months or so and that does not leave many visits in my multi city rotation.

This am called and asked for my previous favorite Lucy but was told its her day off. Seeing as she has had a day off the last three times I called lm writing her off as having moved on. The mamsan suggested I try Sunny, "she young you like her". Well with raving endorsement like that I guess Sunny it is.

I tell them I will be there in 15 min. I show up and mamsan recognized me and showed me to a room and I get ready for Sunny. 5 minutes in on the table I nice 30-35 year young lady, medium build and beautiful smile comes in. I say are you Sunny? She say no my name Jenny? What! Bait and switch?

I say mamsan said Sunny was going to work on me and she reply's that she was told by mamsan to be my therapist today and I said ok.

She has very warm hands and very soft, she asked if I wanted medium or hard and I said whatever your doing right now is fine which again was just soft, nice, and sensual.

She was just it for me, her skills would give me goosebumps and goosebumps ontop of goosebumps. She would run her hands from feet to entire backside up through me head as I was laying face down. Man just incredible.

So more medium seductive massage, not just the back, neck, shoulders, legs but along the sides of the upper torso with just the right pressure to not be ticklish.

So very nice ST to get things going but I could not hold out too much she had me at high revs and I had to flip to have a look at this beauty.

Medium and sensual legs, fun zone, chest. Got some tasteful verbal encouragement through out. Not much UTC but OTC was fine. Once I popped she stayed engaged slowly for the next five minutes not letting go. Kisses on the chest, peck on the forehead, and while still maintaining connectivity she laid her head on my stomach, cheek side down facing me, looking right into my eyes and still softly stroking with a lovely smile to cap it off.

OMG she hit every button for a standard NOVA ending anyone would want. Just an amazing experience. Damn its been 10 hours since and I can still feel the warmth of her hands and the look she gave me at the end.

So now I have no choice but to skip others in my rotation and absorb what attention I can from miss Jenny until she too moves on but she said said she would give me her info next time.

We shall see.

Stay Safe yall.

Rub.

RubMeLongTime
03-26-18, 14:12
And Monday has come, and she is gone.


I really enjoy this hobby, some days you just really get lucky on all fronts. Today was such a day. I like to visit CS massage in ffax on ffax blvd because they have a good group of ladies and my intention when I go there is to just relax and enjoy with no expectations. As mentioned previously I had to visit here at least 10 times before leaving happy and since then I think the girl at the front desk knows me and aligns the right girl with the right skill set when I cone. The biggest downside is the turn over of the lady's here, they only stick around for 2 months or so and that does not leave many visits in my multi city rotation.

This am I called and asked for my previous favorite Lucy but was told its her day off. Seeing as she has had a day off the last three times I called l'm writing her off as having moved on. The mamsan suggested I try Sunny, "she young you like her". Well with a raving endorsement like that I guess Sunny it is.

I tell them I will be there in 15 min. I show up and mamsan recognized me and showed me to a room and I get ready for Sunny. 5 minutes in on the table I nice 30-35 year young lady, medium build and beautiful smile comes in. I say are you Sunny? She say no my name Jenny? What! Bait and switch?

I say mamsan said Sunny was going to work on me and she reply's that she was told by mamsan to be my therapist today and I said ok.

She has very warm hands and very soft, she asked if I wanted medium or hard and I said whatever your doing right now is fine which again was just soft, nice, and sensual.

She was just it for me, her skills would give me goosebumps and goosebumps ontop of goosebumps. She would run her hands from feet to entire backside up through me head as I was laying face down. Man just incredible.

So more medium seductive massage, not just the back, neck, shoulders, legs but along the sides of the upper torso with just the right pressure to not be ticklish.

very nice ST to get things going but I could not hold out too much she had me at high revs and I had to flip to have a look at this beauty.

Medium and sensual continued on the legs, fun zone, chest. Got some tasteful verbal encouragement through out. Not much UTC but OTC was fine. Once I popped she stayed engaged slowly for the next five minutes not letting go. Kisses on the chest, peck on the forehead, and while still maintaining connectivity she laid her head on my stomach, cheek side down facing me, looking right into my eyes and still softly stroking with a lovely smile to cap it off.

OMG she hit every button for a standard NOVA ending anyone would want. Just an amazing experience. Damn its been 10 hours since and I can still feel the warmth of her hands and the look she gave me at the end.

So now I have no choice but to skip others in my rotation and absorb what attention I can from miss Jenny until she too moves on but she said said she would give me her info next time.

We shall see.

Stay Safe yall.

Rub.

LetsGiveItATry
03-27-18, 15:56
I understand this is not a typical review, but I'm sure there is more people besides me who likes a legit massage on occasion.

On Saturday I was down in my back from moving on Friday and needed to legit massage. I did a lot of research online because I wanted to visit somewhere new. After searching for over an hour, I decided to call a place in Vienna I had seen on several CL ads and made an appointment. They had a special for a 1 hour infrared wrap + 1 hour massage for $100 that I chose and let me say, it was hands down the best experience I've ever had.

We started off with the infrared wrap and it was different, but by the time the hour was up, felt like I lost 5 lbs of fat. Next was the massage and the girl, Sarah dug deep into my muscles. I told her where my pain was located and she almost brought me to tears getting the knots out. I literally had to ask her to ease up twice, but she said I would thank her tomorrow. 20-30 minutes went by and the owner decided to join the session. She walked on my back while Sarah worked in my legs. This went on for 10 minutes and it felt amazing. Once the session was over, I took a shower, dropped a $40 tip and could barely walk out the door. However, on Sunday I felt fantastic and refreshed.

I would highly recommend the treatment I received. Here is the contact info: https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/d/grand-opening-help-for-health/6543472392.html.

JmSuttr
03-27-18, 22:22
I understand this is not a typical review, but I'm sure there is more people besides me who likes a legit massage on occasion.

On Saturday I was down in my back from moving on Friday and needed to legit massage. I did a lot of research online because I wanted to visit somewhere new. After searching for over an hour, I decided to call a place in Vienna I had seen on several CL ads and made an appointment. They had a special for a 1 hour infrared wrap + 1 hour massage for $100 that I chose and let me say, it was hands down the best experience I've ever had.

We started off with the infrared wrap and it was different, but by the time the hour was up, felt like I lost 5 lbs of fat. Next was the massage and the girl, Sarah dug deep into my muscles. I told her where my pain was located and she almost brought me to tears getting the knots out. I literally had to ask her to ease up twice, but she said I would thank her tomorrow. 20-30 minutes went by and the owner decided to join the session. She walked on my back while Sarah worked in my legs. This went on for 10 minutes and it felt amazing. Once the session was over, I took a shower, dropped a $40 tip and could barely walk out the door. However, on Sunday I felt fantastic and refreshed.

I would highly recommend the treatment I received. Here is the contact info: https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/d/grand-opening-help-for-health/6543472392.html.Haven't seen Sarah but I have seen Kelly, Wendy and Coco, all excellent (and totally legit). Suki is the owner and if she's not busy she'll join in the massage for a while so the client gets a four-hand experience for no extra charge.

For anyone who loves massage, it's always a good plan to have a fave legit spa as well as a fave FBSM spa or provider. Help for Health definitely checks all my boxes for the legit side of things.

GreenBeans420
03-27-18, 22:55
Saw GripNSip report and was in the area and decided to give this spot a try.

Was kinda put off as its on the third floor of a medical / office building. Directly across is a Dentist office and on the other side by the elevator is a Private Investigators office.

There's no identifying labels on the door so I guess that's a plus. Dreamed that I was greeted at the door by an older very skinny woman who barely spoke english. I wanted to get the 4 hands but she was trying to either understand me or tell me something but I couldn't understand. Decided to come back another time for the 4 hands to get the 30 min, then was told the 1 hour was only. 10 more. Went with that and was ushered into a room. The same girl performed and it was kinda off. There was no music and she didn't speak english so when I would try to strike up a convo or compliment her it was just silent. You can also hear everything going on in the adjacent office. Massage also was kinda weak for about 30 minutes then she really started to add pressure and hit the right spots. I had to look up to make sure it was the same girl. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded. Above average finish with nursing and next level moaning. The massage continued for another 10 minutes and I was ushered out.

Wish I was able to see the other girl working but I'll definitely come back for the 4 hands but if I'm in the area I might give it another try.Tried this place out on Sunday, was ok pretty sure I had the same lady looked high thirty's low 40's. Paid for an hour and got some overall good massage in the beginning. It was my first time but I had read this review before I went. She would rub my legs and tease as she went by to see if I was ok after I said yes she played a little more, then she's told me to turn over so I did and I asked her to take off her shirt and she did pretty good size tits, nice HJ then I asked her to suck she was hesitant but she did and when I was about to cum I told her to suck for more money and she let me finish in her mouth but spit it out on my stomach. Got a warm towel and cleaned me up. Was about 10 minutes shorter than an hour but it was ok.

Would prefer someone younger if anyone knows a place that has younger women please post or PM.

MrSunnyHills
03-28-18, 06:53
Haven't seen Sarah but I have seen Kelly, Wendy and Coco, all excellent (and totally legit). Suki is the owner and if she's not busy she'll join in the massage for a while so the client gets a four-hand experience for no extra charge.

For anyone who loves massage, it's always a good plan to have a fave legit spa as well as a fave FBSM spa or provider. Help for Health definitely checks all my boxes for the legit side of things.Ditto for KK (who may be the same as Jm's Coco). Especially if you like hard massage (not just walking and elbows, but strong hands to dig in if needed).

WalterKovacs
03-28-18, 13:56
Tried this place out on Sunday, was ok pretty sure I had the same lady looked high thirty's low 40's. Paid for an hour and got some overall good massage in the beginning. It was my first time but I had read this review before I went. She would rub my legs and tease as she went by to see if I was ok after I said yes she played a little more, then she's told me to turn over so I did and I asked her to take off her shirt and she did pretty good size tits, nice HJ then I asked her to suck she was hesitant but she did and when I was about to cum I told her to suck for more money and she let me finish in her mouth but spit it out on my stomach. Got a warm towel and cleaned me up. Was about 10 minutes shorter than an hour but it was ok.

Would prefer someone younger if anyone knows a place that has younger women please post or PM.Overall damage? How much extra did you give her to CIM?

NyHornet
03-28-18, 22:37
Haven't seen Sarah but I have seen Kelly, Wendy and Coco, all excellent (and totally legit). Suki is the owner and if she's not busy she'll join in the massage for a while so the client gets a four-hand experience for no extra charge.

For anyone who loves massage, it's always a good plan to have a fave legit spa as well as a fave FBSM spa or provider. Help for Health definitely checks all my boxes for the legit side of things.Is this the Suki, that used to work in Woodbridge years ago, then Springfield? I actually ran into her about 3-4 different places over the years but haven't seen her in a long time. Another lady told me she had her own place in Annandale of Falls Church. She was one of the First Ladies I ever saw when I started the hobby about 11-12 years ago. Tall, pretty with an awesome body and friendly personality. Probably about 40-42 years old now?

GreenBeans420
03-28-18, 23:46
Overall damage? How much extra did you give her to CIM?Overall was $80.

$60 for the massage $20 for the tip.

But keep in mind as I asked her that she was hesitant so I said more money & she did.

She didn't seem too happy that it was only $20 extra she tried to get $40 but I told her I didn't have it.

Mainly because I wanted someone younger but as I team most reviews it seems like CIM is rare so probably actually worth $40.

ArtistOfWar1
03-29-18, 00:16
I just wanted to stop in and declare my undying love for Mint.

I texted KK and she introduced me to Mint. If Mint was full service she would be wearing my ring LOL.

I tried to talk her into a Russian finish but she was unsure as she said she never done it before.

Not the most therapeutic rub, but enjoyable non the less. Topless finish with THE MOST AMAZING nipples I ever nibbled.

Its up to you pervs to teach her the Russian finished so I can come back and gift her my fake last name and take her home.

Sadly, I'm sure I over tipped. Apologies, I didn't want negotiations to spoil the moment

JmSuttr
03-29-18, 00:27
Is this the Suki, that used to work in Woodbridge years ago, then Springfield? I actually ran into her about 3-4 different places over the years but haven't seen her in a long time. Another lady told me she had her own place in Annandale of Falls Church. She was one of the First Ladies I ever saw when I started the hobby about 11-12 years ago. Tall, pretty with an awesome body and friendly personality. Probably about 40-42 years old now?Different Suki, for sure. Of all the items you listed the only match is the friendly personality. And also, just to make sure some overeager monger doesn't get the wrong idea, she and H for H spa are 1000% legit.

Desicouple
03-29-18, 06:48
Does any body know where we can get couples massage or if there is a provider who can provide it at our home.

We are looking for a nuru massage with younger girl.

Thanks.

WalterKovacs
03-29-18, 08:54
Went to this place. Maybe an hour or so before they closed. Greeted by super skinny chick with virtually no tits and absolutely not a looker. I was already about to turn around make a run for it. Then I remembered some of the reviews here said another girl come in for 4 hand or something like that. Paid for HH (. 5) Massage was weak. On the flip I asked her to call in someone else, awkward moment she kinda stood there for a while then went and got another girl who wasn't dressed for the occassion but had more tits and ass, and a lbetter looking IMO. Let me feel ass and suck on tit while the less attractive one gave an HJ to finish. Probably would repeat with another girl but probably not.


Saw GripNSip report and was in the area and decided to give this spot a try.

Was kinda put off as its on the third floor of a medical / office building. Directly across is a Dentist office and on the other side by the elevator is a Private Investigators office.

There's no identifying labels on the door so I guess that's a plus. Dreamed that I was greeted at the door by an older very skinny woman who barely spoke english. I wanted to get the 4 hands but she was trying to either understand me or tell me something but I couldn't understand. Decided to come back another time for the 4 hands to get the 30 min, then was told the 1 hour was only. 10 more. Went with that and was ushered into a room. The same girl performed and it was kinda off. There was no music and she didn't speak english so when I would try to strike up a convo or compliment her it was just silent. You can also hear everything going on in the adjacent office. Massage also was kinda weak for about 30 minutes then she really started to add pressure and hit the right spots. I had to look up to make sure it was the same girl. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded. Above average finish with nursing and next level moaning. The massage continued for another 10 minutes and I was ushered out.

Wish I was able to see the other girl working but I'll definitely come back for the 4 hands but if I'm in the area I might give it another try..

TheOuroboros
03-30-18, 11:18
Went to this place. Maybe an hour or so before they closed. Greeted by super skinny chick with virtually no tits and absolutely not a looker. I was already about to turn around make a run for it. Then I remembered some of the reviews here said another girl come in for 4 hand or something like that. Paid for HH (. 5) Massage was weak. On the flip I asked her to call in someone else, awkward moment she kinda stood there for a while then went and got another girl who wasn't dressed for the occassion but had more tits and ass, and a lbetter looking IMO. Let me feel ass and suck on tit while the less attractive one gave an HJ to finish. Probably would repeat with another girl but probably not.

.Yeah I had another dream this morning. Got stuck with the skinny one. There's 2 girls here, the heavier set one gives a much much better massage, she's kinda a butterface with a great pair. The skinny one is meh in the looks department but has a nice body, the problem is her massage skills are straight up trash that barely passes for decent soft touch. I took an hour and gambled on an old proverb. It's the soft and shy ones that are wild in the sac. So a boring hour passes and I convince her to do a BBBJ for an extra. 8 and let me tell you. Her dick sucking skills were out of this world. It's like she saves all the energy and skill for the desert. I popped a little in her mouth and then she shook me for the finale and let me tell you, it was glorious. So I'm conflicted because the massage is shit, but that finish was amazing. But for Total damage of $. 4 I left satisfied.

WalterKovacs
03-30-18, 19:06
Yeah I had another dream this morning. Got stuck with the skinny one. There's 2 girls here, the heavier set one gives a much much better massage, she's kinda a butterface with a great pair. The skinny one is meh in the looks department but has a nice body, the problem is her massage skills are straight up trash that barely passes for decent soft touch. I took an hour and gambled on an old proverb. It's the soft and shy ones that are wild in the sac. So a boring hour passes and I convince her to do a BBBJ for an extra. 8 and let me tell you. Her dick sucking skills were out of this world. It's like she saves all the energy and skill for the desert. I popped a little in her mouth and then she shook me for the finale and let me tell you, it was glorious. So I'm conflicted because the massage is shit, but that finish was amazing. But for Total damage of $. 4 I left satisfied.Wait wait so the small itty bitty skinny one that's NOT attractive in the face gave a great BBBJ? That's quite a dream. Maybe I'll go have another dream too.

GreenBeans420
03-31-18, 00:39
Wondering if anyone knows about these or not, looking for one that does HJ & younger women.

In herndon - http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-new-young-girls-your-deserve-the-best-_-asian-body-work/47747757.

In Vienna - http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/703-826-4379-100-young/47377752.

If anyone has any girls that do it private please let me know looking for younger girls.

GreenBeans420
03-31-18, 00:40
Wondering if anyone knows about these or not, looking for one that does HJ & younger women.

In herndon - http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-new-young-girls-your-deserve-the-best-_-asian-body-work/47747757.

In Vienna - http://nova.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/703-826-4379-100-young/47377752.

If anyone has any girls that do it private please let me know looking for younger girls.

RidgeRacer
04-01-18, 10:10
Was in desperate need of a massage with my back killing me and had a frustrating day of trying and failing to set up appointments with independent providers, both who I've seen before and who I've heard good things about. My window was closing so finally I decided to check out this place which is advertising on CL as having new staff. Haven't seen much in the way of reviews for this place, but lots of reviews for previous AMPs in the same location which I took as a good sign. I called ahead and spoke to Linda who said they could see me as soon as I got there. She seemed to be trying to sound sexy to me which I thought was another good sign.

On my way, I got a text asking if I was still coming which was a tad off-putting since I had assumed it was a land line. When I got there I was a little confused because there's another asian spa in the same office park (also discussed on other sites but seems to be 100% legit). But I found the one I was looking for which is closer to the front and visible from the highway. Inside was clean, if spartan, and pretty open, I imagine if there were other people there it might be hard to avoid seeing them. No doorbell or anything like at other AMPs. There was an older lady sitting on a couch (I guess Linda) and my masseuse Amy greeted me. Both Chinese.

Amy was not a looker by any stretch, but not repulsive, probably in her 50's. She led me to a pretty spacious, well lit massage room just next to the lobby with a curtain and also a normal door. I got undressed and lay on the table face down with no towel. She came in and closed the curtain but not the regular door. She put a towel on me but I told her I prefer without and she didn't mind. Kind of awkward at first because there was no music and I could hear the woman in the next room clinking a spoon in her tea cup, but I asked for music and she put it on.

I asked for a hard massage and she delivered. Really worked deep, exactly what I needed for my back. Nothing sensual to speak of at that point, but it felt so good I didn't care.

Once she moved on from my back to my legs and glutes I decided I might as well go for the bonus of a HE after getting what I really came for. I signaled my pleasure when she got close to the good spots and she didn't shy away. After a little teasing, she went to get a hot towel and when she came back, closed the door behind her. I had a good idea after that that things were going to go my way.

She cleaned me thoroughly and started with the ST. On the flip, she did a very nice ST but was pretty hesitant, kept asking me "OK?" as she touched more and more taboo areas. I let her know it was more than OK and she got to work. No discussion of tip until that point but as she worked me deeper and her finger got closer to a certain orifice, I encouraged her to keep going and she said "you give me more tips?" which I happily agreed to before she took the plunge. In the heat of the moment I asked her to use her mouth but she just ignored me. She also allowed some roaming over her jeans but I didn't try for anything more since she was not very exciting to touch or look at. She was not as enthusiastic as some other providers I've seen but still supportive and seemed happy to be doing the job, which she did well.

After an explosive finish, she cleaned me up and got back to work on a nice leg and foot massage. Got my full hour's worth.

Damage was $. 6/ 6. She seemed very happy with the $. 6 tip, I may have been able to get away with less but I thought she earned it. On the way out, she gave me a bottle of water and a punch card where you get a free massage after your tenth visit. If I had the time and budget, I just might try to get there, given the strength of the massage, the lack of interruptions and the enjoyable finish.

WalterKovacs
04-01-18, 19:26
Was in desperate need of a massage with my back killing me and had a frustrating day of trying and failing to set up appointments with independent providers, both who I've seen before and who I've heard good things about. My window was closing so finally I decided to check out this place which is advertising on CL as having new staff. Haven't seen much in the way of reviews for this place, but lots of reviews for previous AMPs in the same location which I took as a good sign. I called ahead and spoke to Linda who said they could see me as soon as I got there. She seemed to be trying to sound sexy to me which I thought was another good sign.

On my way, I got a text asking if I was still coming which was a tad off-putting since I had assumed it was a land line. When I got there I was a little confused because there's another asian spa in the same office park (also discussed on other sites but seems to be 100% legit). But I found the one I was looking for which is closer to the front and visible from the highway. Inside was clean, if spartan, and pretty open, I imagine if there were other people there it might be hard to avoid seeing them. No doorbell or anything like at other AMPs. There was an older lady sitting on a couch (I guess Linda) and my masseuse Amy greeted me. Both Chinese.

Amy was not a looker by any stretch, but not repulsive, probably in her 50's. She led me to a pretty spacious, well lit massage room just next to the lobby with a curtain and also a normal door. I got undressed and lay on the table face down with no towel. She came in and closed the curtain but not the regular door. She put a towel on me but I told her I prefer without and she didn't mind. Kind of awkward at first because there was no music and I could hear the woman in the next room clinking a spoon in her tea cup, but I asked for music and she put it on.

I asked for a hard massage and she delivered. Really worked deep, exactly what I needed for my back. Nothing sensual to speak of at that point, but it felt so good I didn't care.

Once she moved on from my back to my legs and glutes I decided I might as well go for the bonus of a HE after getting what I really came for. I signaled my pleasure when she got close to the good spots and she didn't shy away. After a little teasing, she went to get a hot towel and when she came back, closed the door behind her. I had a good idea after that that things were going to go my way.

She cleaned me thoroughly and started with the ST. On the flip, she did a very nice ST but was pretty hesitant, kept asking me "OK?" as she touched more and more taboo areas. I let her know it was more than OK and she got to work. No discussion of tip until that point but as she worked me deeper and her finger got closer to a certain orifice, I encouraged her to keep going and she said "you give me more tips?" which I happily agreed to before she took the plunge. In the heat of the moment I asked her to use her mouth but she just ignored me. She also allowed some roaming over her jeans but I didn't try for anything more since she was not very exciting to touch or look at. She was not as enthusiastic as some other providers I've seen but still supportive and seemed happy to be doing the job, which she did well.

After an explosive finish, she cleaned me up and got back to work on a nice leg and foot massage. Got my full hour's worth.

Damage was $. 6/ 6. She seemed very happy with the $. 6 tip, I may have been able to get away with less but I thought she earned it. On the way out, she gave me a bottle of water and a punch card where you get a free massage after your tenth visit. If I had the time and budget, I just might try to get there, given the strength of the massage, the lack of interruptions and the enjoyable finish.Glad you ended up finding a good place for what you needed. Sorry I couldn't think of anywhere to go. Finish was just a tug I'm assuming?

Titan Omega
04-02-18, 08:34
Yeah I had another dream this morning. Got stuck with the skinny one. There's 2 girls here, the heavier set one gives a much much better massage, she's kinda a butterface with a great pair. The skinny one is meh in the looks department but has a nice body, the problem is her massage skills are straight up trash that barely passes for decent soft touch. I took an hour and gambled on an old proverb. It's the soft and shy ones that are wild in the sac. So a boring hour passes and I convince her to do a BBBJ for an extra. 8 and let me tell you. Her dick sucking skills were out of this world. It's like she saves all the energy and skill for the desert. I popped a little in her mouth and then she shook me for the finale and let me tell you, it was glorious. So I'm conflicted because the massage is shit, but that finish was amazing. But for Total damage of $. 4 I left satisfied.I had no idea! She barely spoke english how did you convince her? I'm looking to give it another go around especially if I can pull that dream off or with the thicker one.

Skooby
04-02-18, 18:18
Was in desperate need of a massage with my back killing me and had a frustrating day of trying and failing to set up appointments with independent providers, both who I've seen before and who I've heard good things about. My window was closing so finally I decided to check out this place which is advertising on CL as having new staff. Haven't seen much in the way of reviews for this place, but lots of reviews for previous AMPs in the same location which I took as a good sign. I called ahead and spoke to Linda who said they could see me as soon as I got there. She seemed to be trying to sound sexy to me which I thought was another good sign.

On my way, I got a text asking if I was still coming which was a tad off-putting since I had assumed it was a land line. When I got there I was a little confused because there's another asian spa in the same office park (also discussed on other sites but seems to be 100% legit). But I found the one I was looking for which is closer to the front and visible from the highway. Inside was clean, if spartan, and pretty open, I imagine if there were other people there it might be hard to avoid seeing them. No doorbell or anything like at other AMPs. There was an older lady sitting on a couch (I guess Linda) and my masseuse Amy greeted me. Both Chinese.

Amy was not a looker by any stretch, but not repulsive, probably in her 50's. She led me to a pretty spacious, well lit massage room just next to the lobby with a curtain and also a normal door. I got undressed and lay on the table face down with no towel. She came in and closed the curtain but not the regular door. She put a towel on me but I told her I prefer without and she didn't mind. Kind of awkward at first because there was no music and I could hear the woman in the next room clinking a spoon in her tea cup, but I asked for music and she put it on.
Could you describe the build of the two ladies?

NgRichmond
04-02-18, 18:41
Saw Mint (KK's friend) last week. Nice massage in an upscale and very safe location. Takes off everything with the right tip, but comes out expensive for what you get (only HJ seems to be on the menu). Very pretty girl and great body, amazing ass and tits. Probably would not repeat due to price. Pm for more details.

RidgeRacer
04-02-18, 22:11
Yes just a HJ with prostate massage.

Didn't get a good look at Linda but she looked older and skinnier. Amy wasn't fat but not skinny or shapely.

Serpico99
04-03-18, 18:47
I stopped by Healing Touch (now called Healthy Therapy) on the weekend off of Digges hoping to see Mimi but there was another girl there, Lulu. She told me she was filling in for Angela, who is one of the other regular providers there.

Typical Chinese middle aged, cute face, kind of tall for a Chinese woman, not slim but not fat just average body.

She did a great massage and good ST. I was already horned up so it did not take long for me to explode. She gave me the Korean AMP 45 minute session, which sucked because Mimi and Angela always gives me the full hour.

70 for hour, 50 tip. The massage was great so no complaints. The annoying thing was the door bell rang twice during my session so when a provider is working solo, it can be annoying to be interupted.

I would not recommend Lulu. I would opt for Mimi or Angela.

Titan Omega
04-03-18, 21:56
I had no idea! She barely spoke english how did you convince her? I'm looking to give it another go around especially if I can pull that dream off or with the thicker one.I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.

Happy Guy 2
04-03-18, 23:26
I stopped by Healing Touch (now called Healthy Therapy) on the weekend off of Digges hoping to see Mimi but there was another girl there, Lulu. She told me she was filling in for Angela, who is one of the other regular providers there.

Typical Chinese middle aged, cute face, kind of tall for a Chinese woman, not slim but not fat just average body.

She did a great massage and good ST. I was already horned up so it did not take long for me to explode. She gave me the Korean AMP 45 minute session, which sucked because Mimi and Angela always gives me the full hour.

70 for hour, 50 tip. The massage was great so no complaints. The annoying thing was the door bell rang twice during my session so when a provider is working solo, it can be annoying to be interupted.

I would not recommend Lulu. I would opt for Mimi or Angela.I usually enjoy a massage and extras. If they sometimes think time is over after extras, just refer then to the time they started and lay there and ask them to finish, nicely, laughing and jokingly, of course. Just roll over on belly and say 15 more minutes I paid you for, Thanks. They usually have to comply. If they say, "you want water" say yes after you finish my time! If you have already paid for "tip", that is the only way to get your point across. It is up to us to help them and coach them to being good providers. For the sake of all of us! (Me).

Happy Guy 2.

WalterKovacs
04-04-18, 08:16
Haahah wow man that sucks. Funny thing is, I went yesterday maybe an hour or two before closing for the same reason. I walked in but I didn't even get the girl and I didn't want to seem to eager as if I already knew about the BJ so I didn't. Instead I got another girl named Amy, a little better looking, taller more solid build. Massage was one of the best I've had at an AMP. So I instantly knew I wasn't getting a BJ and didn't take my chances to gamble after such a great massage she did pull down her shirt and reveal really great set of tits to my surprise, feeding allowed while HJ to completion. Damage. 6 + . 2 . Tip.


I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother..

Dr Bombay
04-04-18, 10:47
I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.Besides YMMV, maybe the lady doesn't want to BJ for every guy coming in after one review here. Please don't get angry, it's her choice. I always thought (at least for me) this hobby is supposed to be fun for both.

Serpico99
04-04-18, 17:34
I had a dream that I made a second attempt. Went back and got the same unattractive woman and opted for the 30 min massage. I bared with the horrible massage knowing that I could get the BJ on the flip. On the flip she gave me the signal and I nodded and pointed to her mouth. She says she doesn't do that. I got so mad but contained myself. I sat through that horrible massage I'm sure I have enough patience to talk her into it. After a few strokes I ask her if she can BJ, that she did it for me last time I was here. A complete lie but I was swinging for the fences and she thinks about it and says 1. I ask her one hund red? She stares at me blankley and goes back to stroking after a min of confusion. So pissed off I'm now trying to figure something else out and I start thinking of cows and old ladies taking baths and she couldn't get me going and she grew more and more frustrated. She stepped back and wrapped her hair up and I'm thinking I won she's about to go down. Completely wrong. She instead lifts up her dress and attempts to take off her bra but was too lazy to get off completely over her tits so she grabs my hand buts on her flat butt. It wasn't working for me and offered to leave unfinished. I'll try one more time but if I don't get thicker one I won't bother.This place has probably seen a big uptick in mongers asking for BBBJ after the recent review so she probably got spooked and isn't giving it anymore (if she was doing BBBJ as an extra service). Or she may have been somewhat attracted to the other monger who was able to get it.

Procrast333
04-04-18, 21:57
I've been going here for a couple of months because I thought I found a really good legit spot. Clean, comfortable, professional and reasonable, all of that. But the last couple of times they keep shorting on time. That's one thing that really irritates me is the time issue.

NyHornet
04-04-18, 22:53
I stopped by Healing Touch (now called Healthy Therapy) on the weekend off of Digges hoping to see Mimi but there was another girl there, Lulu. She told me she was filling in for Angela, who is one of the other regular providers there.

Typical Chinese middle aged, cute face, kind of tall for a Chinese woman, not slim but not fat just average body.

She did a great massage and good ST. I was already horned up so it did not take long for me to explode. She gave me the Korean AMP 45 minute session, which sucked because Mimi and Angela always gives me the full hour.

70 for hour, 50 tip. The massage was great so no complaints. The annoying thing was the door bell rang twice during my session so when a provider is working solo, it can be annoying to be interupted.

I would not recommend Lulu. I would opt for Mimi or Angela.Did she mention why Mimi wasn't there?

JmSuttr
04-04-18, 23:18
I've been going here for a couple of months because I thought I found a really good legit spot. Clean, comfortable, professional and reasonable, all of that. But the last couple of times they keep shorting on time. That's one thing that really irritates me is the time issue.I usually deduct $10 if they short me 10 - 15 minutes. If they short me more than that then I deduct $20. But very important to let them know exactly why you're doing it and what they need to do to earn the full amount next time. And maybe also mention to MMS so she understands what's expected. They may pout and complain but they'll get the message that you're not a client to be f*cked with.

Appropriate incentives and disincentives are what makes this hobby work. And allowing providers to take unfair advantage just makes things worse for future customers. Also, the same principles apply to legit masseuses, IMHO, although maybe adjust the amount of tip withheld since the tip is less to begin with.

Serpico99
04-05-18, 07:41
Did she mention why Mimi wasn't there?She just told me she was no longer there.

Titan Omega
04-05-18, 14:05
Besides YMMV, maybe the lady doesn't want to BJ for every guy coming in after one review here. Please don't get angry, it's her choice. I always thought (at least for me) this hobby is supposed to be fun for both.Guess it was more frustration than anger. Knowing how horrible the massage was the last time I got her the only bright side would have been the BJ.

Wp212
04-05-18, 15:05
This place has probably seen a big uptick in mongers asking for BBBJ after the recent review so she probably got spooked and isn't giving it anymore (if she was doing BBBJ as an extra service). Or she may have been somewhat attracted to the other monger who was able to get it.That and the fact that at least a couple of people claimed to have gotten the massage+BBBJ for 80 total (60+20). They practically robbed the place if they got it for that low LOL.

RvaYoungMonger
04-05-18, 17:17
From out of town, had a dream based on reviews on the board (thanks guys). My provider was named Patti. Wasn't too thick but wasn't a spinner either, honestly what I was looking for because I was tired of AMPs. Let me start by saying I got the absolute worst massage I've ever gotten in my life. Just an oily rubdown with mediocre tease. OTC and UTC roaming was allowed. She was wearing a dress which is always awesome. She even let me stick my thumb in the stinker. Prob could've pushed for more extras, but couldn't hold back the finish which was explosive. Overall prob won't repeat given the quality of massage but if you don't care about that then I'd recommend. YMMV.

RVA.

TheOuroboros
04-05-18, 18:48
Haahah wow man that sucks. Funny thing is, I went yesterday maybe an hour or two before closing for the same reason. I walked in but I didn't even get the girl and I didn't want to seem to eager as if I already knew about the BJ so I didn't. Instead I got another girl named Amy, a little better looking, taller more solid build. Massage was one of the best I've had at an AMP. So I instantly knew I wasn't getting a BJ and didn't take my chances to gamble after such a great massage she did pull down her shirt and reveal really great set of tits to my surprise, feeding allowed while HJ to completion. Damage. 6 + . 2 . Tip..See I've seen both. And even tho Amy doesn't do BBJ (or at least I haven't pushed for it) she doesn't need to in order for me to have a good time. Her massage is good and she's much more playful on the flip with teasing and she does have a good rack. So you know as always YMMV.

WalterKovacs
04-06-18, 03:37
That and the fact that at least a couple of people claimed to have gotten the massage+BBBJ for 80 total (60+20). They practically robbed the place if they got it for that low LOL.? you read the reviews wrong. No one said they got BBBJ for 60+2. Christmas only comes once a year.

Barkeater
04-06-18, 06:39
Hey,

Was in the Herndon area and went to the 2nd floor therapy place named after the town it is in (201 Eldon). Got Jo Anne, and older K girl with very nice bolt ons. Nice table shower, and a couple of minutes in the sauna, which always seems like a waste of time.

Massage was excellent, although the damage was .8 + .8, and I got that disappointed look and I was like 'really'? Nice nova finish, and got to see those girls up close. Will likely return, although I wish there were cheaper options, or ones where the girls, just once in a while, don't always say 'is that all you're going to tip me?

Be safe.

VaPlay
04-06-18, 12:23
Hey,

Was in the Herndon area and went to the 2nd floor therapy place named after the town it is in (201 Eldon). Got Jo Anne, and older K girl with very nice bolt ons. Nice table shower, and a couple of minutes in the sauna, which always seems like a waste of time.

Massage was excellent, although the damage was .8 + .8, and I got that disappointed look and I was like 'really'? Nice nova finish, and got to see those girls up close. Will likely return, although I wish there were cheaper options, or ones where the girls, just once in a while, don't always say 'is that all you're going to tip me?

Be safe.Thats double the tip she deserved. . 4 for a HJ with visuals. 6 for HJ with Daty, . 8 to $ for BJ FS. Others continue paying more than this just keep driving up the cost. If paying a dime more than $. 6- 8 for a nice massage with F / S move on from the AMP's to the CC's or Indy's. Quit being part of the problem and start being part of the solution. Unless your trying to marry her.

Sexingit
04-06-18, 14:04
Spend $. 6 on a Thai provider and you'll get more than your AMP bargain. I don't know why you'd visit these horrible places with excellent Thai providers around with very good reviews. If you don't mind a drive, check out the Columbians in Laurel Maryland.

I can understand the thrill of the hunt but when do you finally come to the realization that there are better indy providers at a lesser rate and amazing reviews?

Seriously get a massage from a Thai provider for $. 2 and you'll get a very good bargain. Or at the very least cut the bullshit and visit a provider that gives you what you really want, full service.

WalterKovacs
04-06-18, 15:39
Spend $. 6 on a Thai provider and you'll get more than your AMP bargain. I don't know why you'd visit these horrible places with excellent Thai providers around with very good reviews. If you don't mind a drive, check out the Columbians in Laurel Maryland.

I can understand the thrill of the hunt but when do you finally come to the realization that there are better indy providers at a lesser rate and amazing reviews?

Seriously get a massage from a Thai provider for $. 2 and you'll get a very good bargain. Or at the very least cut the bullshit and visit a provider that gives you what you really want, full service.In my experience most Thai providers ask for "race / ethnicity" and a lot of other screening.

Serpico99
04-06-18, 18:57
? you read the reviews wrong. No one said they got BBBJ for 60+2. Christmas only comes once a year.You said you tipped. 2 That's 20 in monger speak LOL Most monger use the $ to indicate 100 dollar denominations. It's in the abbreviation guide on this forum.

So are you saying you paid 120 for a BJ? Plus 60 for a crappy massage? Dang, for that price I would make the trip to MD. For 160 you can go to MD and get a better bargain.

Skooby
04-06-18, 19:31
Looks like both Backpage and Craigslist therapeutic are both gone.

Efltgp
04-06-18, 20:16
Independent massage the 2 hottest fucking Russian girls you have ever seen one dark hair c cup tight body amazing face and ass long black hair. Elena blonde c cup 22 yrs old total smoke show tan tight and sexy as fuck no pics because backpage is down but willing to trade info for Russian provider or Columbian provider doesn't need to be FS but must be hot for a trade and must be verified.

Jim Rob
04-06-18, 21:50
With BackPage and Craigslist gone, what does it mean for the AMP's. Is this the end? Will business end because of no longer beings able to advertise or promote new AMP's.

Monger rain🎼 Oh do we feel the pain, monger rain. Will it ever be the same. Monger rain.

Any Mouse
04-06-18, 23:01
With BackPage and Craigslist gone, what does it mean for the AMP's. Is this the end? Will business end because of no longer beings able to advertise or promote new AMP's.

Monger rain🎼 Oh do we feel the pain, monger rain. Will it ever be the same. Monger rain.Looks like it's back to the Sports Section of WaPo! Or how about City Paper?

ArtistOfWar1
04-06-18, 23:04
Upcoming road trip to your area. Yayy!

Only a couple numbers saved and an AMP address😒.

#BPBlackout2018.

NyHornet
04-06-18, 23:11
With BackPage and Craigslist gone, what does it mean for the AMP's. Is this the end? Will business end because of no longer beings able to advertise or promote new AMP's.

Monger rain🎼 Oh do we feel the pain, monger rain. Will it ever be the same. Monger rain.Probably a bigger problem for the independent ladies.

Wahooboy94
04-06-18, 23:50
Well, last Sunday (4/1), I tried the spa that everyone has been buzzing about -- the one in Springfield on the 3rd floor of the building with the skinny and thick girl, LOL.

Well, I didn't the thick girl, so I must have gotten the skinny one.

I'm going to compare this place to Bamboo Therapy in Springfield.

Neither place offers a table shower. Tie. Facilities. Bamboo I felt was nicer and more comfortable / welcoming.

In my honest opinion, the "skinny" provider gave a great massage. It was between light and medium touch, but I thought it was actually quite good! I will give the edge to Bamboo Therapy however. You can pull up my post.

Soft touch was also good. I thought it was comparable to Bamboo Therapy. Maybe a tie.

No BBBJ offered nor asked.

I think the service at both locations is quite similar. Bamboo -- you get a more conversational provider verse the other location. Would I go back to the 3rd Floor spa? Maybe. Would I go back to Bamboo? Definitely.

Any Mouse
04-07-18, 00:05
Probably a bigger problem for the independent ladies.1. For new clients, since there are no "open" points of reference.

2. Just in general, due to TV coverage, business is already down. Quiet as it were.

Solution? Haven't a clue!!

AM.

SonChi
04-07-18, 00:34
Thats double the tip she deserved. . 4 for a HJ with visuals. 6 for HJ with Daty, . 8 to $ for BJ FS. Others continue paying more than this just keep driving up the cost. If paying a dime more than $. 6- 8 for a nice massage with F / S move on from the AMP's to the CC's or Indy's. Quit being part of the problem and start being part of the solution. Unless your trying to marry her.I agree. I posted this before:

I do the following. Happily pay the 1 hour fee. Enjoy the TS and the rub, which usually are nice. Upon the flip, when the upsell comes, I negotiate the tip as such: I say 20 for nothing, 40 for hand, 100 for. You get the idea. They make a decision and the fun begins (very rarely not). This way, I control what I am getting and so do they.

If you have an existing provider, great, do what you normally do! Otherwise, if you all do the above, we will not overpay when trying a new provider and we wil reset the market.

Thoughts?

Sexingit
04-07-18, 10:42
In my experience most Thai providers ask for "race / ethnicity" and a lot of other screening.From my experience, I only text because I've been turned down by providers who believed that I am AA due to my deep voice. Since I text in complete sentences and politely ask for their donations, my race never comes in play. Representation and presentations matters to them as much as it matters to us.

Bacon Bread
04-07-18, 11:24
I've had a couple nice sessions with Cindy at the place in Shirlington recently.

Skooby
04-07-18, 18:19
From my experience, I only text because I've been turned down by providers who believed that I am AA due to my deep voice. Since I text in complete sentences and politely ask for their donations, my race never comes in play. Representation and presentations matters to them as much as it matters to us.As an black man, I believe you. I really regret moving to northern Virginia. It's almost like they are disappointed when I walk in the door, it I get that far. If I knew what I know now I would have moved to Maryland when I came from out of state.

Any Mouse
04-07-18, 18:27
Spahunters. Down!

Rubmaps. Sporadic all day, currently down.

Eros is up.

Independents using CL Beauty.

Skooby
04-07-18, 18:33
Spahunters. Down!

Rubmaps. Sporadic all day, currently down.

Eros is up.

Independents using CL Beauty.Never used rubmaps since I had to pay. It looks like they are taking themselves down before the government does.

NyHornet
04-08-18, 19:31
From my experience, I only text because I've been turned down by providers who believed that I am AA due to my deep voice. Since I text in complete sentences and politely ask for their donations, my race never comes in play. Representation and presentations matters to them as much as it matters to us.I have been asked what race I am, but very rarely.

NyHornet
04-08-18, 19:33
Spahunters. Down!

Rubmaps. Sporadic all day, currently down.

Eros is up.

Independents using CL Beauty.. EM was up last time I checked.

WalterKovacs
04-08-18, 21:18
As an black man, I believe you. I really regret moving to northern Virginia. It's almost like they are disappointed when I walk in the door, it I get that far. If I knew what I know now I would have moved to Maryland when I came from out of state.I'm black and mixed. I had one provider ask me if I spoke spanish and then when I said no asked me to send a pic. Mind you, most can't tell if I'm all the way black or not, she just stopped responding LOL She wasn't thai tho. Crazy that people can be in this line of work and discriminate. Money is the only color that should matter.

Tom McAn
05-19-18, 00:13
Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers!

Idk85
05-19-18, 01:30
Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers!Glad that the forum is back but it is going to be a pain in the ass to find ads because of the crackdown. Even my regular disappeared from the scene. So, I'm starting from zero now. The only positive thing about the crackdown is that I saved a lot of money. LOL.

Roamin Roman
05-19-18, 04:26
Glad that the forum is back but it is going to be a pain in the ass to find ads because of the crackdown. Even my regular disappeared from the scene. So, I'm starting from zero now. The only positive thing about the crackdown is that I saved a lot of money. LOL.It's true, the crackdown put a damper on activities, but the talent didn't just go away. It's still out there and available, if you do your searches right. And, there are a couple sites where ads are still up. You just have to be smart about your searches. I won't insult you by doing your thinking for you, but I'll just remind you that the Net has a history. You can still find the old contacts on some of the websites like BP that have closed. Some of those contact numbers aren't valid any loner, but others are.

And, of course, the AMPs are still around. The clampdown didn't bother them much, since they didn't much depend on sites like CL and BP for business. What the new (or, rather, revamped) USASG now needs is the sharing of our findings.

Tom McAn
05-19-18, 10:50
Yes, the Internet has a history but one has to wonder if some providers simply moved on. We'll have to see who's still active and who isn't.

Time and money have been in short supply for me recently, but out of curiosity I perused some of the ad boards still available. Many of those ads are dubious at best, even more dubious than the Asian crapshoot ads which dominated Backpage the last couple of years. On one site I also found some ads for providers who had supposedly retired. So this will definitely be an interesting season.

JmSuttr
05-19-18, 11:26
Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers!We definitely live in interesting times!

JmSuttr
05-19-18, 11:51
It's true, the crackdown put a damper on activities, but the talent didn't just go away. It's still out there and available, if you do your searches right. And, there are a couple sites where ads are still up. You just have to be smart about your searches. I won't insult you by doing your thinking for you, but I'll just remind you that the Net has a history. You can still find the old contacts on some of the websites like BP that have closed. Some of those contact numbers aren't valid any loner, but others are.

And, of course, the AMPs are still around. The clampdown didn't bother them much, since they didn't much depend on sites like CL and BP for business. What the new (or, rather, revamped) USASG now needs is the sharing of our findings.Agreed that AMPs, at least established ones with decent reputations, are probably doing fine. I think some AMPs relied on BP or CL more than others, especially if relatively new and in low-visibility locations.

IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.

Titan Omega
05-19-18, 18:27
Its been wild since the sites been down. I got a few stories incoming but its good to see things are getting back to normal.

RustyMuffler
05-19-18, 23:24
I found that some of my favorite local indies are advertising here:

https://www.massageanywhere.com

It's mostly legit, but you should recognize some pretty faces on there.


IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.

ZebraSoile
05-20-18, 09:49
I've been to Latin Touch twice and have drawn Giovanna (black dress hair covering face in ad) she's a nice girl with a great body but overall nothing to write home about for overall experience. I've been wanting to try Sandra (pink dress in ad) but have been unable to. I scheduled a recent appt and drew Leah (black dress back turned ad) but had to cancel. Has anyone had a session with Leah? If so how was she?

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/latin-touch-massage-vip/20803208I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.

ZebraSoile
05-20-18, 19:20
I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.Leah is 1/2 Latina, 1/2 Scandinavian. Has natural blonde hair, speaks English fluently. Attractive face & figure. I dropped in w / o calling, but you should call first (sorry, I forgot the number but you can find it on Yelp I think).

OldManInVa
05-21-18, 17:01
Agreed that AMPs, at least established ones with decent reputations, are probably doing fine. I think some AMPs relied on BP or CL more than others, especially if relatively new and in low-visibility locations.

IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.I went to Arlington Therapy Saturday and saw Lotto. She commented on how business had been slow since they couldn't advertise as much. It will be interesting to see how the market changes.

Procrast333
05-21-18, 17:14
Wow. That was a bit of a dry spell. So where are all the places advertising now? I was curious how the lack of BP and CL would impact business. I tried searching for a few of the numbers I had but no dice. Any casualties that anyone knows of?

NovaDogs17
05-21-18, 17:17
Wow. That was a bit of a dry spell. So where are all the places advertising now? I was curious how the lack of BP and CL would impact business. I tried searching for a few of the numbers I had but no dice. Any casualties that anyone knows of?Given the price point, it was best just to stay with the Korean Agencies for me. They've all been Operating with the exception of RHF69.

WalterKovacs
05-21-18, 18:00
I think now is the time for Monger Reform. Where now we have an opportunity to collectively to stop paying outrageous prices. I know this sounds like a pipe dream and to resist the urge in the moment to fold and pay an upsell won't hold We have to try though. The CL / BP shut down was a blessing in disguise to destroy and rebuild.

NoVa Ranger
05-21-18, 19:23
Franconia Wellness is one of several KSpas within about a mile of each other (close proximity to the DMV Office in Franconia).

It is kept in good condition by management. The studios are a bit small, but clean. Good TS area.

I was a walk-in last week. Greeted by MMS (cautiously welcoming); collected house fee (. 8/ hr) and told me to undress (towel in plain site for my modesty of course).

Joy, an attractive in that Nova Kgirl manner ("spinner-ish") arrived after about 5 minutes. She was pleasant, and took me to the TS where all was cleaned (nice TS if not great).

Back to studio for massagi. Not bad (not great) - but a nice "Thai / Swedish" combo massage.

First visit (and I was a walkin) -- so, average enjoyable finish. Standard tip + . 1 (perhaps better treatment awaits).

NR.

JmSuttr
05-21-18, 20:41
I think now is the time for Monger Reform. Where now we have an opportunity to collectively to stop paying outrageous prices. I know this sounds like a pipe dream and to resist the urge in the moment to fold and pay an upsell won't hold We have to try though. The CL / BP shut down was a blessing in disguise to destroy and rebuild.One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.

Tom McAn
05-22-18, 01:30
One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.That's good advice. Thanks!

Jackbenimble17
05-22-18, 08:12
Good post and been around long enough to see the pricing adjust accordingly. It did so in the DMV after the tech boom and again after the great recession. Even though I don't play in the NOVA MP anymore (prefer the GB gals and back in the day DC AMP), it is refreshing that capitalism and supply / demand is working.


One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.

VChase
05-23-18, 14:38
Amigos,

Wow, talk about bad timing. The forum went down just before moving to the DC area. I had a dream that I was flying blind near the airport. Came across a site (CVX) that had a massage / rub section. Landed on this busty, private, "Thai" provider in Chantilly named Zaza Thai. She told me $. 2 for a dream and I was on my way.

When I arrived at the apt complex she sent me the APT number. When she opened the door I was relieved that it was the girl in the pictures. She led me to a nice massage room and instructed me to get comfortable. When she walked in she immediately draped me. I was concerned and it didn't get any better. She gave a legitimate but decent massage with no teasing whatsoever. At the flip she asked what I wanted and I asked for it all and she rebuffed. I settled on a HE which seemed like all she was willing to offer, no touching allowed and she remained fully dressed. She got the job done but the experience was very mechanical.

The experience was odd. She texted promptly and communicated well but hardly muttered more than a word or two in person. I speak some Thai and she had no idea what I was saying. When I asked her where she from she said Bangkok. I then asked her why she couldn't speak thai she said she left when she was young. So I then asked her where she grew up and she responded, Zurich. The whole thing was very fishy and I probably won't see her again. I def do not recommend her.

I've been to DC often and know a few places in Fairfax and several marvelous dreamlands in PGC but I figured I should TOFTT. Needless to say, I'm glad the forum is back up.

P.S. I've just moved to the area permanently and am looking for a few great friends I could see on an ongoing bases. If you know of any interested in a young, cleancut professional please let me know. I am fairly open to age and ethnicity but do not compromise on beauty and talent. Thanks for any help you may be able to provide.

Pleasant Dreams,

Vance.

WalterKovacs
05-23-18, 19:09
One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.Good post. I think it's strength in numbers though. It's supply and demand on both sides but at the end of the day, they need us more than we need them. I think if you're a regular and you know the value of what you're getting, it's no need to rock the boat but for first encounters, upsell will be less tolerable in this climate. At least for me. With that said. I'm going to take my talents to a new fave in NOVA this week LOL.

Idk85
05-24-18, 06:14
Amigos,

Wow, talk about bad timing. The forum went down just before moving to the DC area. I had a dream that I was flying blind near the airport. Came across a site (CVX) that had a massage / rub section. Landed on this busty, private, "Thai" provider in Chantilly named Zaza Thai. She told me $. 2 for a dream and I was on my way.

When I arrived at the apt complex she sent me the APT number. When she opened the door I was relieved that it was the girl in the pictures. She led me to a nice massage room and instructed me to get comfortable. When she walked in she immediately draped me. I was concerned and it didn't get any better. She gave a legitimate but decent massage with no teasing whatsoever. At the flip she asked what I wanted and I asked for it all and she rebuffed. I settled on a HE which seemed like all she was willing to offer, no touching allowed and she remained fully dressed. She got the job done but the experience was very mechanical.

The experience was odd. She texted promptly and communicated well but hardly muttered more than a word or two in person. I speak some Thai and she had no idea what I was saying. When I asked her where she from she said Bangkok. I then asked her why she couldn't speak thai she said she left when she was young. So I then asked her where she grew up and she responded, Zurich. The whole thing was very fishy and I probably won't see her again. I def do not recommend her.

I've been to DC often and know a few places in Fairfax and several marvelous dreamlands in PGC but I figured I should TOFTT. Needless to say, I'm glad the forum is back up.

P.S. I've just moved to the area permanently and am looking for a few great friends I could see on an ongoing bases. If you know of any interested in a young, cleancut professional please let me know. I am fairly open to age and ethnicity but do not compromise on beauty and talent. Thanks for any help you may be able to provide.

Pleasant Dreams,

Vance.Looks like she is price gouging because of the crackdown. She used to do a lot more for less.

Maxx0
05-24-18, 08:38
Revisited New Blue Sky on Dorsey across from the hospital in the business park, have not been there in a long time, still the same. 5 hour (legit) massage, . 2 tip, . 7 total, enjoyable time overall, will opt out of the back walk next time and go medium instead of hard pressure, neck hurts on one side, let that relax / heal, then I plan to repeat.

I also visited the old blue sky off of Diggs adjacent to the hospital about a week earlier, . 6 hour massage, . 4 tip, $ total, standard NOVA.

Glad to see this site back!

Serpico99
05-24-18, 20:35
I also visited the old blue sky off of Diggs adjacent to the hospital about a week earlier, . 6 hour massage, . 4 tip, $ total, standard NOVA. I visited this spot today. Hanna was my provider, 30 year old Chinese with a slender body. She looked like she was in her early 20's but she told me she is 30.

Paid 60 for one hour. Very good massage, standard noVA. I gave her 40 tip. I got my full hour. It's an ok spot to quench my AMP thirst. I use to go to the other place down at the end of Digges but Mimi is no longer working there.

Buddyy
05-25-18, 04:54
I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.Does Latin touch do HJ and or BJ?

JmSuttr
05-26-18, 12:37
Does Latin touch do HJ and or BJ?Is generally not the best way to start. Even in these crazy times it's best to do some forum searches and plenty of reading first. That's the quickest way to establish your credibility and get the answers you seek. And, if you have hobby experiences of your own to share, that's also highly recommended.

The more contributing members we can get on these boards, the better for all.

Watta
05-26-18, 14:57
They are back on Pigeon Hill again! I just got back from a visit there with Mimi.

Everything there is as it was. I could not really see where any construction was done but I am very happy they are back!

Go check the place out!

Still $60 for 30 minutes and $80 for the hour.

WATTA RELIEF!

Buddyy
05-27-18, 03:29
Is generally not the best way to start. Even in these crazy times it's best to do some forum searches and plenty of reading first. That's the quickest way to establish your credibility and get the answers you seek. And, if you have hobby experiences of your own to share, that's also highly recommended.

The more contributing members we can get on these boards, the better for all.I have read through but can't seem to find if it's legit or exotic. I didn't know it would be hat hard for someone to answer that.

Kijimuna
05-27-18, 13:12
My friend told me her BP ad is posted on liverubreview, she didn't post it though, weird.

Tom McAn
05-27-18, 14:16
My friend told me her BP ad is posted on liverubreview, she didn't post it though, weird.While its sister site Live Escort Reviews regularly posts updated ads, Live Rub Reviews appears not to have updated since April 6, the day the feds seized and shut down Backpage. It's a good source if you want to go back and look up a provider's info, but it provides no information as to whether that provider is still working today.

JmSuttr
05-27-18, 15:06
While its sister site Live Escort Reviews regularly posts updated ads, Live Rub Reviews appears not to have updated since April 6, the day the feds seized and shut down Backpage. It's a good source if you want to go back and look up a provider's info, but it provides no information as to whether that provider is still working today.Since the BP and CL shutdowns, quite a few (mostly substandard) escort sites have tried to take up the slack. Liveescortreviews is currently scraping their content from cityxguide, but nothing comparable has happened for massage. Some FBSM providers are posting on escort sites and some have moved over to legit sites like massageanywhere. But that leaves an unfilled gap in the market because many sensual bodyrub ladies don't like either of those options. With the BP and CL therapeutic sections, "extra" masseuses could advertise next to legit ones and leave it to knowledgeable clients to figure things out.

If anyone puts up a massage-specific site that doesn't overtly sell the sex angle, they should do pretty good business because that market is currently underserved. And that would give Liverubreviews someplace to draw content from rather than staying frozen on April 6th.

DcManLive
05-27-18, 20:04
I have read through but can't seem to find if it's legit or exotic. I didn't know it would be hat hard for someone to answer that.His point was it is better to contribute by giving some reviews before asking questions.

NoVa Ranger
05-27-18, 20:45
Since the BP and CL shutdowns, quite a few (mostly substandard) escort sites have tried to take up the slack. Liveescortreviews is currently scraping their content from cityxguide, but nothing comparable has happened for massage. Some FBSM providers are posting on escort sites and some have moved over to legit sites like massageanywhere. But that leaves an unfilled gap in the market because many sensual bodyrub ladies don't like either of those options. With the BP and CL therapeutic sections, "extra" masseuses could advertise next to legit ones and leave it to knowledgeable clients to figure things out.

If anyone puts up a massage-specific site that doesn't overtly sell the sex angle, they should do pretty good business because that market is currently underserved. And that would give Liverubreviews someplace to draw content from rather than staying frozen on April 6th.Now all they (and we) need is an open-minded and enterprising entrepreneur.

ZebraSoile
05-27-18, 20:53
His point was it is better to contribute by giving some reviews before asking questions.I wrote the original review. I am very reluctant to give details given the current climate. One thing I can say: if you want a simply therapeutic massage--and there is nothing wrong with that -- you don't need to go to this site, or any site that has focuses on adult services. You can go to Yelp and key in your neighborhood. There are plenty of therapeutic massage places around the DMV, and some of them are very good.

NoVa Ranger
05-28-18, 09:46
Was a first time walk in client at Soft Touch.

Older studio but well equipped for an enjoyable massage experience. Easy parking in an older medical condo-type complex.

Manager was appropriately cautious (new client, did not call ahead). Massage Technician (Ann or Anna?) - very nice (small, slender (and a bit quiet. Not chatty) .

Nice TS (I would have liked more time, but everything cleaned). Good massage (worked out kinks and knots back and front). Enjoyable in all aspects.

No discussion of tip. Was not shorted on time. Standard house for the hour (4 xJackson) standard tip as well. I will most likely repeat if I am in the area.

NR.

Tom McAn
05-28-18, 16:27
Now all they (and we) need is an open-minded and enterprising entrepreneur.Hopefully they can find such an entrepreneur outside the reach of the feds and the FOSTA law. Or, better yet, find an entrepreneurial lawyer willing to get FOSTA struck down in court.

Member #5687
05-28-18, 16:34
They are back on Pigeon Hill again! I just got back from a visit there with Mimi.

Everything there is as it was. I could not really see where any construction was done but I am very happy they are back!

Go check the place out!

Still $60 for 30 minutes and $80 for the hour.

WATTA RELIEF!Is Jenny (Jenni) still there? She was there prior to them shutting down.

Mongeroose
05-28-18, 17:57
Hopefully they can find such an entrepreneur outside the reach of the feds and the FOSTA law. Or, better yet, find an entrepreneurial lawyer willing to get FOSTA struck down in court.Dc. rubratings.com has some NoVa providers.

JmSuttr
05-28-18, 18:56
Dc. rubratings.com has some NoVa providers.But that site is still pretty obviously geared toward sensual massage providers. While that's ok for the client side of things, it's not very helpful for the CMT providers who used to post in BP or CL therapeutic. Better than nothing, but still not quite hitting the mark.

Ale1832
05-28-18, 19:34
I am a long time lurker on the charlottesville board and just made a full account. I'll be visiting DC here soon, and after scouring the boards I have two main questions, if someone would be kind enough to PM me.

1. I see a lot about CoCo. Does anyone know if she is back from vacation and if so which Angel Spa she is at. RM has 4-5 listed.

2. Also a lot of talk of KK (not sure if thai or Russian based on what I read?) and Mint but I am completely unable to find anything about either of them outside the board. Eros, RM, etc. Doesn't have anything and I'd love to see either of them based off what I've read. Theres not much down here in cville but I'm willing to trade info.

I'm just tired of what's down here in cville and what a busty, young, pretty girl for once LOL.

Lmk gents and stay safe.

RustyMuffler
05-28-18, 22:59
OldManInVa mentioned visiting Lotto at Arlington Therapy. That's one of my regular haunts and Lotto is a true gem. She always makes sure I'm completely satisfied. Note: She's mature, not a PYT. So if your attendant doesn't have to be a 22 year old, (or a 36 year old who looks like she's 22), to get your motor running, Lotto's a fantastic choice. And please note: The spa is in Arlington, so there is no table shower. As a result, it is in your best interest to be freshly showered before you visit.


I went to Arlington Therapy Saturday and saw Lotto. She commented on how business had been slow since they couldn't advertise as much. It will be interesting to see how the market changes.

JmSuttr
05-29-18, 08:08
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OldManInVa
05-29-18, 17:12
KK still advertises for body waxing under Craigslist Beauty section:

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bts/d/professional-body-waxing-by-kk/6598219299.html

I am sure she still offers her massage services but can't advertise them there. KK is great, but she is no skinny little thing. Great massage and good customer service.


I am a long time lurker on the charlottesville board and just made a full account. I'll be visiting DC here soon, and after scouring the boards I have two main questions, if someone would be kind enough to PM me.

1. I see a lot about CoCo. Does anyone know if she is back from vacation and if so which Angel Spa she is at. RM has 4-5 listed.

2. Also a lot of talk of KK (not sure if thai or Russian based on what I read?) and Mint but I am completely unable to find anything about either of them outside the board. Eros, RM, etc. Doesn't have anything and I'd love to see either of them based off what I've read. Theres not much down here in cville but I'm willing to trade info.

I'm just tired of what's down here in cville and what a busty, young, pretty girl for once LOL.

Lmk gents and stay safe.