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Lane Narrows
12-29-15, 23:50
That's the one. She always uses fake pics.Word was she had a few items on the menu, but I wasn't about to find out what.

Pcpc1688
12-30-15, 13:25
Just a funny experience at a AMP today. Since I had some time before the Holidays, I visited a place I went to 10 days ago where I had a very good time but I really did not bring with me a good enough tip. So when I went back today. Made an appointment and she was waiting. Gave her the house fee and a big Christmas tip upfront and said she was great last time and I wanted some more nice warm fun. Actually she has a beautiful body, slim, nice boobs and a good ass and she really gives a great professional massage and TS. Really just wanted some good massage, warmth and to leave happy.

Turns out, rushing around for the day, etc. I was just not really in the mood to release. She got pretty frustrated after trying everything and no results from me. It was actually funny.

So here enters the SANTA:

She stops, leaves the room and brings in her co-worker to help her. Co-worker communicated well, striped down also and they both worked on me and me on them. Co-worker asked if I ever has fucked in the ocean? Oh what a joy, just imagine it. In San Diego, CA where she said she was from.

Well of course the job got done and we all 3 were relieved. (To answer some questions before you ask, no BJ or FS. Not my thing at an AMP. Just good old fashion fun).

Merry Christmas to all.

Take care of your providers this holiday season.

They are valuable for what they do, and most are nice people.

Then everyone can have a smile on their face.

Happy Guy 2.Nice story but where is Santa located?

PC out.

Plainzwalker
12-31-15, 09:48
Anyone know if the Latin ran barber / massage place is still open in Fairfax? I left the area for 3 years and recently moved back and can't seem to find anything of it. I want to say it was in the Vienna area, maybe Chantilly?

Thanks.

MikeInDC
12-31-15, 17:54
I hit up an reliable noVa standard finish spot in eastern LoCo, on the street named after a flowering plant that you see hung up around Christmas time. LOL.

Nisa (the provider with a nice meaty butt) wasn't there but a new girl was, Sandy. Pretty good looking for a mid-age Chinese (maybe late 30's?) As always, standard noVA which was good. Her actual massage was great. I know I saw her around the another spot in noVA but she claims this is her first time in the area.

For those in the area, I would recommend.Can you provide some more location / name info?

I have to drive to Arlington on Saturday and I'm looking for recommendations. I usually frequent places in MD.

I saw MM Wellness mentioned but I can't figure out what it stands for.

Thanks.

MikeInDC
12-31-15, 17:57
I can also recommend Jasmine. She's in DC at Foggy Bottom. Beautiful body and nice technique. Her finish was amazing.

Novacreeper
12-31-15, 20:01
I can also recommend Jasmine. She's in DC at Foggy Bottom. Beautiful body and nice technique. Her finish was amazing.Breadcrums on FB Jasmine?

Kijimuna
12-31-15, 23:34
Stopped by Jaifu the other day. They recently changed owners and have fairly decent looking ladies working there. No up sell and no prompting for normal service. 60/40.

MikeInDC
01-01-16, 18:16
Breadcrums on FB Jasmine?http://www.jazzdc.me/

MikeInDC
01-02-16, 00:45
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/total-full-body-massage-by-jane/18507719

Jane is a Russian MILF with a very sexy accent. She does not have pics in her BP ad, but she is fair-skinned with a nice face and very pretty eyes. But her best feature is her wonderful breasts! Let's just say she is fully equipped to rock some cleavage! She has a shapely, mature body which I find attractive. Also, she is smart and can carry on a nice conversation while she works, without being too chatty. I was able to relax right away and really enjoy my time with her.Do you happen to have a recent link for Jane? This one is old (I'm scanning thru old posts).

Thanks.

MikeInDC
01-02-16, 01:02
Not sure exactly what you define as American but there are Russian / Ukrainian (Caucasian) MPs in Bethesda. Check the Montgomery County, MD forum for more info.I can confirm a reliable RMP in Bethesda. PM for info.

Telcova
01-02-16, 15:11
I was in the area and decided to hit Pine Tree, it's been years since I've been there, the one in Fairfax. It was in the middle of the day and the place was empty. Jenny answered the door and showed me to the room. Seeing this place can be hit or miss I went for the half hour.

Jenny is in her 30's with an average to slim build and she speaks English very well. The massage was with decent pressure and she took direction well. The flip was average and she stayed below my knees, out of reach the entire time.

Not a bad experience, not a GREAT one too.

Happy New Year.

MikeInDC
01-02-16, 16:16
Decided to visit FW in Alexandria today. Met Jenny. Cute girl with nice bolt-ons, I guess about the cups but I'm a horrible judge. Fun table shower and good firm massage. Her ST and technique are good. She got me in the chin if ya know what I mean. Very nice clean place too.

PearlZ176
01-02-16, 17:20
How do we tell the difference?

If I want the whole ordeal, how do I differentiate the places which offer it and the places which don't?

Rubmaps doesn't distinguish this as it just lists all of them in one place.

Happy new year!

Bunker Buster
01-02-16, 18:29
Fun table shower and good firm massage. Her ST and technique are good.OK, you've got me on an acronym I don't know. The 'official' definition of ST on the abbreviations page is Short Time, but I think you're getting at something else.

Kijimuna
01-03-16, 00:12
OK, you've got me on an acronym I don't know. The 'official' definition of ST on the abbreviations page is Short Time, but I think you're getting at something else.I guess it would mean Standard, as in a HJ.

Krakatoa
01-03-16, 01:49
How do we tell the difference?

If I want the whole ordeal, how do I differentiate the places which offer it and the places which don't?

Rubmaps doesn't distinguish this as it just lists all of them in one place.

Happy new year!I don't know if I am the best qualified to answer, but here's my understanding. AMPs have a published address and hours of operation. You can walk in any time, and so can LE. This is why services tend to be limited. Rubmaps lists only AMPs, as far as I can tell.

AAMPs are a less well defined class of operations. These are essentially Asian escort agencies, such as Club Paradise or Happy Together, in which the girls operate discreetly in condos or apartments. Could also include some independents. They are harder to find and require verification.

This dichotomy leaves out the "Chinese condo" and "Asian crap shoot" operations, which are more informal and much less expensive. Aside from BP ads, intel about these is hard to come by.

Others may have more nuanced perspectives.

Funkey
01-03-16, 14:57
One of my favorites in Springfield appears to have retired. Anyone know the whereabouts of Mai?

She was there for a long time and went back to Korea in September. Would like to know if she is still in the business.

Funkey.

MikeInDC
01-03-16, 15:18
OK, you've got me on an acronym I don't know. The 'official' definition of ST on the abbreviations page is Short Time, but I think you're getting at something else.Seriously? ST is soft touch. Always has been.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soft+touch+massage

AndyLee1234
01-05-16, 01:02
ANY INFO ON EDEN MODELS IN TYSONS CORNER?

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-college-cuties-tysons-corner-va/13749987

Roger1286
01-05-16, 09:09
Well I have my once in a while trip coming up later this month and in the past I have gotten some good suggestions from the board, at least those who understand that mongering is a lifelong commitment even when you are advanced in years. I prefer over 40. I have noticed the BP ad for the 42 year old Chinese lady in Centreville, (any endorsement there?) and I noticed this one:

Mature, Discreeet Gentlemen ONLY*FULL Body Nude MASSAGE!! Quiet / Clean_PRIVATE HOME ♥9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829; - 46 (-Fairfax-Centreville).

And of course there is Nurse JJ who I had a aborted appointment with once, she must have gotten busy.

Any other suggestions or thoughts greatly appreciated. PMs preferred, and I will report what I end up doing. Thanks.

MrSunnyHills
01-05-16, 10:45
Sorry, no particular help, but couldn't help but give you 2 thumbs up for this quote "at least those who understand that mongering is a lifelong commitment even when you are advanced in years. " Love it!


Well I have my once in a while trip coming up later this month and in the past I have gotten some good suggestions from the board, at least those who understand that mongering is a lifelong commitment even when you are advanced in years. I prefer over 40. I have noticed the BP ad for the 42 year old Chinese lady in Centreville, (any endorsement there?) and I noticed this one:
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JmSuttr
01-05-16, 11:39
Well I have my once in a while trip coming up later this month and in the past I have gotten some good suggestions from the board, at least those who understand that mongering is a lifelong commitment even when you are advanced in years. I prefer over 40. I have noticed the BP ad for the 42 year old Chinese lady in Centreville, (any endorsement there?) and I noticed this one:

Mature, Discreeet Gentlemen ONLY*FULL Body Nude MASSAGE!! Quiet / Clean_PRIVATE HOME ♥9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829; - 46 (-Fairfax-Centreville).

And of course there is Nurse JJ who I had a aborted appointment with once, she must have gotten busy.

Any other suggestions or thoughts greatly appreciated. PMs preferred, and I will report what I end up doing. Thanks.Both 40+ and both provide both a good massage experience and a nice finish at a decent price. Their menus are definitely not as expansive as someone like Nurse JJ so, if that's what you're looking for, these two won't fit the bill.

Ms. Virginia:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/virginia-therapy-two-o-two-590-1006/15896876

Vicky (Fairfax):

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-theraptic-massage-by-licensed-masseuse-to-take-care-you-dc-nova/18002532

OldBoomer
01-05-16, 19:25
This is more properly a backpage report. However, this provider is also a great massage. So.

A very good experience. As others have said, a little pricey. Limited services, but the services that were provided were very well done.

Be nice to the ladies.

Lost Soul
01-05-16, 23:33
Do you happen to have a recent link for Jane? This one is old (I'm scanning thru old posts).



Thanks.Check out TER I'd: 142242 on oThER site.

Roger1286
01-06-16, 09:11
Well I have my once in a while trip coming up later this month and in the past I have gotten some good suggestions from the board, at least those who understand that mongering is a lifelong commitment even when you are advanced in years. I prefer over 40. I have noticed the BP ad for the 42 year old Chinese lady in Centreville, (any endorsement there?) and I noticed this one:

Mature, Discreeet Gentlemen ONLY*FULL Body Nude MASSAGE!! Quiet / Clean_PRIVATE HOME ♥9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829;9829; - 46 (-Fairfax-Centreville).

And of course there is Nurse JJ who I had a aborted appointment with once, she must have gotten busy.

Any other suggestions or thoughts greatly appreciated. PMs preferred, and I will report what I end up doing. Thanks.Just wanted to share that I have received a number of good suggestions and other pertinent info by the PM route. I want to thank those seniors who understand my plight and shared good intel!

Yoyo Spa
01-08-16, 16:07
ANY INFO ON EDEN MODELS IN TYSONS CORNER?

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-college-cuties-tysons-corner-va/13749987Andy,

I see you're new here so I'll throw you a bone on the first question. If you want more answers you'll need to collect some experiences and share with others here.

EdenModels provides Sensual Body Rub and Private Viewing. A sensual bodyrub may feel arousing but won't be particularly therapeutic. A good local AMP will give you a better rubdown (by an older provider). For private viewing think stripper giving a private dance or champagne room. And remember: there's no sex in the champagne room.

Will the provider be young and attractive? Yes and most likely. Particularly compared to local AMPs. You're hoping for free-spirited coed (quite possible) but you might end up with young single mom (not bad).

Will there be "extras"? She may help you relieve some stress but remember: there's no sex in the champagne room.

Should I tip? AMP prices are fee + tip (say 80+40 for 60). PV prices are all inclusive (120 for 30). If you are new to this scene I recommend booking a 30 min session. This agency won't rip you off and it's not much you're risking. If you really dig the provider and book again you might choose a 60 min session in hopes of getting more. YMMV.

Should I write a review? Absolutely, that's what this forum is about. I'd focus on the girls' age / looks / attitude and be more circumspect on any extras.

Bobby D53
01-10-16, 22:28
You can find the add under ESORTS! On Backpage. The post promise a young line up of girls in their 20's with sexy pics with Asian girls in thongs, well I'm stupid and fell for this add and headed out.

Typical NOVA Bs. If the girls at this place are only 20 something, then I'm a toddler. Huge wast of time and warning others to not make same mistake.

My girl was pushing 50 and yes she was flirty, but she was old and just was so disappointed in my decision, I don't get to monger much and try to make them special.

No clothing removed and only allow rubbing otc. Standard lame nova finished.

I'm a fool and can only blame myself, I still try to live the good old days and think I'll have a young sexy girl that gives FS. Those days are done.I've posted in the Charlotte forum about an ad that was posted in the escort section, but it was offering bodyrubs. I was just as disappointed as you were back then. But the older I get, the more I learn how to adjust to this new computer world. I recently went here and everything I expected happened. The lady I had was flirty and probably pushing 50 too. But it was a cute 50! I don't deal with the young girls anymore when I'm actually looking for a real massage. Regardless of what any of you mongers under 50 thinks, older mature women is the best way to go when you're looking for a real massage. That's just my experience.

I don't know what the typical NOVA Bs is being I'm not from here, but I usually try to write my negative posts with a YMMV. What was bad for a lot of mongers in Charlotte worked out perfect for me; that's where the YMMV comes in at. I didn't go looking for FS, I wasn't trying to get her clothes off, I wasn't looking for girls barely out of the teenage years, I went for the basic and that's what I got. I was satisfied and plan on repeating until I get the urge to, as we say in NC, Upgrade. Then, I'll branch out. I hate Jim had a bad experience, but mines was basic and to the point; however, that's exactly what I was looking for.

Krakatoa
01-10-16, 23:09
I've posted in the Charlotte forum about an ad that was posted in the escort section, but it was offering bodyrubs. I was just as disappointed as you were back then. But the older I get, the more I learn how to adjust to this new computer world. I recently went here and everything I expected happened. The lady I had was flirty and probably pushing 50 too. But it was a cute 50! I don't deal with the young girls anymore when I'm actually looking for a real massage. Regardless of what any of you mongers under 50 thinks, older mature women is the best way to go when you're looking for a real massage. That's just my experience.

I don't know what the typical NOVA Bs is being I'm not from here, but I usually try to write my negative posts with a YMMV. What was bad for a lot of mongers in Charlotte worked out perfect for me; that's where the YMMV comes in at. I didn't go looking for FS, I wasn't trying to get her clothes off, I wasn't looking for girls barely out of the teenage years, I went for the basic and that's what I got. I was satisfied and plan on repeating until I get the urge to, as we say in NC, Upgrade. Then, I'll branch out. I hate Jim had a bad experience, but mines was basic and to the point; however, that's exactly what I was looking for.I too had to find out for myself, and I had a similar experience. I hadn't been to Mei in a long time. They used to actually have younger women. But I drew Anna, and yes she was over 40 but she had a great attitude, never mentioned a tip, didn't interrogate me, gave me a nice massage, and, yes, a standard NoVa ending. So, with the appropriate expectations, this was a positive AMP experience. But the OP was right-they have no buiness advertising in the escort section.

Xsham
01-11-16, 00:29
Maybe they are younger than 40-50 at Mei and other locations nearby, but not much. The boards around DC have a tendency to underestimate the age of therapists by on average 10 years for a number of reasons.

Typical NOVA BS implies limited to no services, fully clothed, for 140-180 an hour (including tip), from someone 40+ years old, usually closer to 45-50 and with a just a hint of "more later" (but nothing will ever be offered). You're generally shorted at least 10 and as many as 25 minutes, the massage is fine but never amazing and there is typically an upsell for essentially nothing. When all or nearly all of the market is this, it's not good.

The market deteriorating if why you see so many 4-5 ratings for places that wouldn't get a 2 just 10 years ago or wouldn't get a 1 compared with better cities.

OldBoomer
01-11-16, 17:57
Maybe they are younger than 40-50 at Mei and other locations nearby, but not much. The boards around DC have a tendency to underestimate the age of therapists by on average 10 years for a number of reasons.

Typical NOVA BS implies limited to no services, fully clothed, for 140-180 an hour (including tip), from someone 40+ years old, usually closer to 45-50 and with a just a hint of "more later" (but nothing will ever be offered). You're generally shorted at least 10 and as many as 25 minutes, the massage is fine but never amazing and there is typically an upsell for essentially nothing. When all or nearly all of the market is this, it's not good.

The market deteriorating if why you see so many 4-5 ratings for places that wouldn't get a 2 just 10 years ago or wouldn't get a 1 compared with better cities.Without the experience of a senior member, I can only pine for what was. My limited experience only goes back several months. With one exception, all providers in my dreams have been over 40. However, I never dream more than a. 4 roses tip. All these dreams include at least a NOVA finish. In the dream with the one younger provider, good service took a bit of cajoling. While we both left the dream satisfied, it will not be repeated. Who wants to cajole, especially in a dream. Some of my dreams have ended early. However, if I state up front that the full hour is expected, it has been delivered. For me, I like to more experienced dream provider. Still, I can see how an experience senior member could be disappointed compared to the past.

Big Daddy Don
01-11-16, 20:05
I am no spring chicken. I will say this talk of old ladies being better because of experience is very noble. It wasn't that many years ago that we all would have laughed at such nonsense. Non of today's providers hold a candle to the girls of HWC or Kinja. Some of you remember the good times. It just went to crap. The young girls used to be top notch in service.

BuckshotWatson
01-12-16, 00:16
Typical NOVA BS implies limited to no services, fully clothed, for 140-180 an hour (including tip), from someone 40+ years old....A guy I know has had pretty good service at several NOVA spas in that price range (which includes the house fee) with therapists who are less than 40 year old (or at least are pre-menopausal) with nice figures (and willing to show them), cute faces and fun personalities. Maybe he's gotten lucky, or wins them over with his rakish good looks and sparkling personality (doubtful), but he seems pretty satisfied with his NOVA experiences.

His "secret" is be nice, smell nice and lower your voice. I have been in more than one massage room when some jagov calls with rude, persistent questions, crude insinuations, and overall coarse behavior. That doesn't get you very far.

OneHitWonders
01-12-16, 14:04
Stopped by today to get a massage at Franconia Wellness. Was introduced to April. All I can is Wow! Yes Wow! Worth Repeating Yes Wow! The Best Massage Experience from beginning to end! I will return again and again to see April. Highly recommended! I'm sure you'll agree. MUST SEE April!!

OldBoomer
01-12-16, 18:43
Both 40+ and both provide both a good massage experience and a nice finish at a decent price. Their menus are definitely not as expansive as someone like Nurse JJ so, if that's what you're looking for, these two won't fit the bill.

Ms. Virginia:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/virginia-therapy-two-o-two-590-1006/15896876

Vicky (Fairfax):

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-theraptic-massage-by-licensed-masseuse-to-take-care-you-dc-nova/18002532I recently had a nice dream about Vicky. In the dream, she had a very nice place that was clean and spacious. Very good massage skills and there was a lot of happiness. A lot of happiness. Not young and limited menu, but IMHO much better than any AMP I have dreamed about for similar roses.

Slate Gravel
01-12-16, 19:52
I will be visiting the area, and about the only ad I see nearby is for Rt 1 Potomac Therapy. Latest review notes standard nova ending. Can you guys help a visiting monger out with the local terms?

Standard house fee? HE only, or FS available? Damages (rates)? Any good provider there? Lastly, is there a different (better) place to go that doesn't advertise on BP?

Any info appreciated.

SG.

OldPilot71
01-13-16, 11:51
I will be visiting the area, and about the only ad I see nearby is for Rt 1 Potomac Therapy. Latest review notes standard nova ending. Can you guys help a visiting monger out with the local terms?

Standard house fee? HE only, or FS available? Damages (rates)? Any good provider there? Lastly, is there a different (better) place to go that doesn't advertise on BP?

Any info appreciated.

SG.Quick report since I am on mobile. I've been there several times, always in the afternoon on a weekday. Pretty clean overall with private massage rooms. . 6 for 45 min or. 8 for hour. No FS so far, but I've gotten the vibe from one provider that it may be possible on a follow up visit. Mediocre massage with plenty of teasing. After the flip they ask how much tip. . 4 gets HE, . 6 gets the top dropped and. 8 gets full nude. Plenty of nursing and roaming allowed. Enjoy!

Skooby
01-14-16, 18:46
I recently had a nice dream about Vicky. In the dream, she had a very nice place that was clean and spacious. Very good massage skills and there was a lot of happiness. A lot of happiness. Not young and limited menu, but IMHO much better than any AMP I have dreamed about for similar roses.I can't really tell by the photo in her ad. What type of build does Vicky have?

OldBoomer
01-14-16, 23:37
I can't really tell by the photo in her ad. What type of build does Vicky have?Were you looking at this add:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-theraptic-massage-by-licensed-masseuse-to-take-care-you-dc-nova/18002532

This is the link I use to dream about Vicky, but her name is no longer in the add and the phone number is different. The provider pictured is also different. The text of the add is the same. The Vicky I dreamed of had a slim build, on the short side.

Tempus fugit memento mori.

Skooby
01-15-16, 05:43
Were you looking at this add:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-theraptic-massage-by-licensed-masseuse-to-take-care-you-dc-nova/18002532

This is the link I use to dream about Vicky, but her name is no longer in the add and the phone number is different. The provider pictured is also different. The text of the add is the same. The Vicky I dreamed of had a slim build, on the short side.

Tempus fugit memento mori.Yep, that's the one. Thanks.

Loader401
01-15-16, 12:42
I am no spring chicken. I will say this talk of old ladies being better because of experience is very noble. It wasn't that many years ago that we all would have laughed at such nonsense. Non of today's providers hold a candle to the girls of HWC or Kinja. Some of you remember the good times. It just went to crap. The young girls used to be top notch in service.I agree that years ago we may have laughed at the nonsense of older ladies are mostly a better experience but you have to agree that the outlet is different for those girls. The younger hotter sexier ones most likely are recruited to the agencies IMHO. Years ago, yes, the young ones were hard to beat. The anticipation of the line up, seeing each girl and have them flirt trying to be the one who gets picked. Then the service was a lot more than what we call the standard NoVa. HWC and Kinja are gone and so is the line, now it's first come first serve or if you are lucky enough to actually get who tried to make an appointment with. Don't get me wrong, the game is still fun but with the introduction of agencies in the past years, the talent has shifted and they are playing another game. As for me, I embrace it all. My 2 cents.

Have fun, stay safe.

Loader.

Purple45
01-17-16, 18:51
So many massage options so I did a quick search on Rubmaps and a forum thread search. Interesting reading about where the younger girls went and the decline in services over the years. I decided to try Miko's and glad I did. I met two Korean ladies and let whoever was next take me to the room. With no massage in mind I took the 30 minutes for (. 6) but the hour for (. 8) is a better value. The massage was disappointing but the flip was exactly what I needed. A nice mid 30's Russian speaking lady with a (C) cup. Overall damage was (. 6) and I would repeat with either lady but again the massage was disappointing though.

CoupleOfInches
01-17-16, 19:49
So many massage options so I did a quick search on Rubmaps and a forum thread search. Interesting reading about where the younger girls went and the decline in services over the years. I decided to try Miko's and glad I did. I met two Korean ladies and let whoever was next take me to the room. With no massage in mind I took the 30 minutes for (. 6) but the hour for (. 8) is a better value. The massage was disappointing but the flip was exactly what I needed. A nice mid 30's Russian speaking lady with a (C) cup. Overall damage was (. 6) and I would repeat with either lady but again the massage was disappointing though.You mention two Korean girls and you said who ever is next. Got, that, The thirty for sixty cause of what you wanted, OK. Then the Russian speaking lady comes into play with "see's. " Now the short time was sixty bucks, and the overall damage was sixty bucks. Was there any kind of gratuity for the service rendered? Maybe this Russian lady was from southern Mongolia, they have some Korean features. Don't know.

Purple45
01-17-16, 20:36
You mention two Korean girls and you said who ever is next. Got, that, The thirty for sixty cause of what you wanted, OK. Then the Russian speaking lady comes into play with "see's. " Now the short time was sixty bucks, and the overall damage was sixty bucks. Was there any kind of gratuity for the service rendered? Maybe this Russian lady was from southern Mongolia, they have some Korean features. Don't know.Sorry, (. 6) for 30 minutes and (. 6) for tip damage for a $. 2 total. Don't over think the Russian part because she is diffinitely Korean with nice (C's).

Crankcase
01-19-16, 19:43
Greetings, I am new to this board and all it encompasses. I per used comments last year for a couple weeks, and then started reading more about two months ago.

Report 1.

A couple months ago, I went out Rte 50 a short ways, not too far to the east, past Rte 28. My allergies were not bothering me, so I stopped next door. A gregarious lady, I thought her name was Sally, or Sarah (asked me if this was my first visit, and I blurted out that it was my first visit. There. Or something.

It was mid-day, during the week, and things were quiet so she took her time. I went with a full hour and a TS. A first on all accounts for me. The TS was very pleasant and surprisingly thorough. Sarah was friendly and attractive, in her 40's with a pleasing figure and a close fitting top that was delightfully stretched.

This has been THE best massage to date. Excellent work and "medium to hard" meant exactly that. I was fully stretched when she asked me to turn over. There was some minor roaming, but my excitement was clearly a precursor to a disappointingly but unsurprising quick finish. A hot towel clean up was nice. Sarah was a peach.

If the traffic wasn't usually bad, I would have thought I found a new relief spot.

Report 2.

About a month ago, I had another free weekday and found myself in Herndon, near a car wash, and behind a tennis shop. I could barely 'see' the door, nor could they 'see' me either. I believe it was June, although this was December, and she was a bit closer to September than Sarah had been. However, she had a great sense of humor and made me chuckle several times. June gave a nice shower and she lingered quite a bit on the tender bits while quizzing me on Sarah as she took my measure.

The room was a bit cool on this day, a tad clammy, and the towels were a bit coarser than the last place.

June's massage was nice, also walking on the back, and fairly thorough. At this point, I was still quite shy and unsure of myself. She snorted at me after the flip and had my hands try to warm up her backside under her robe while she plied her trade with huge amounts of lotion. It was a decent afternoon, and I was about to throw in the proverbial towel on the local places.

Report 3.

Today was a flexible schedule and I just read about a previous question regarding Russian or Korean relations. Since I was in the area, I thought I would see for myself. I was a bit west of 28 this time, and I thought I was in Paris when Cindy greeted me. Oo-la-la indeed. I could see for sure: This place has at least one PYT (I am guessing low 30's but that goes young in my book). I believe she is Korean, but all I know she is gorgeous.

Cindy was very friendly during her massage, and like June, queried me while she started. I remarked how soft and smooth her legs were, and she regularly brushed them on me. She didn't walk, but used several nice joint shifts for good massage. I was very relaxed for the flip, but quite surprised. After I confirmed I wanted to continue, her top seemed to come off quickly on its own. I don't think it was poor tailoring, but I didn't check closely or really care.

Cindy let me take in her delicious and tantalizing form, and seemed to be willing (more than I required) to go to great lengths to ensure complete and full customer satisfaction. She let me sit up and lick my lips while she did her magic. This was an resoundingly good time, and I was more than satisfied.

I hope to return to Chantilly, less a question of if, more of when.

I noted another place was downstairs and behind this place, and that was my backup if they were busy. Are they as committed to putting a beautiful smile on your face (and with just as pretty a masseuse?) I think I found a local place to visit upstairs, but it is good to know.

If I have erred, Admins please edit this post and let me know what I should modify in future posts.

Kraven Morehed
01-19-16, 23:56
Hey Guys,

Saw this ad, but the price w / out tip seems too good to be real. Any one can say otherwise? $50 rub special?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5410358334.html

OldPilot71
01-20-16, 07:18
Hey Guys,

Saw this ad, but the price w / out tip seems too good to be real. Any one can say otherwise? $50 rub special?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5410358334.htmlThat price may be during limited hours, which is why it says special. Mimi's in Stafford does. 5 for the hour, but only until 1 pm.

OldPilot71
01-20-16, 07:22
Anyone been by Oasis lately? I see she raised her prices back up to. 8 for the hour. Did she bring any new talent in or is she just trying to stay afloat? I quit going about a year ago. The massage was getting more sub-par each time and the finish was never that good.

Kraven Morehed
01-20-16, 11:57
That price may be during limited hours, which is why it says special. Mimi's in Stafford does. 5 for the hour, but only until 1 pm.Thanks for the tip. I will call and see with burner. Have any of yall checked out DC AMPs? Do they have younger women? And I did not see anyone talk about recent providers with melons. G&G had one who was NICE even though in 40's, but was gone after the first time. You can PM me, but let me know about well endowed providers, who don't have guts please. A little chubby is ok.

Kijimuna
01-20-16, 14:31
Hey Guys,

Saw this ad, but the price w / out tip seems too good to be real. Any one can say otherwise? $50 rub special?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5410358334.htmlThat is for a light touch massage. That place is legit though, so don't expect a HJ.

Kraven Morehed
01-20-16, 17:04
That is for a light touch massage. That place is legit though, so don't expect a HJ.Thanks for saving me the dough and trip. I might have to hit up G&G again and hope for boobs.

Crankcase
01-20-16, 19:38
Thanks for saving me the dough and trip. I might have to hit up G&G again and hope for boobs.I sometimes meander into the Tysons area. G&G is decent providers?

OldPilot71
01-21-16, 07:17
Thanks for the tip. I will call and see with burner. Have any of yall checked out DC AMPs? Do they have younger women? And I did not see anyone talk about recent providers with melons. G&G had one who was NICE even though in 40's, but was gone after the first time. You can PM me, but let me know about well endowed providers, who don't have guts please. A little chubby is ok.Anna at Rt 1 Potomac Therapy is very well endowed. She is chubby, but in a very pleasant way.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/stunning-and-beauty-amazing-relaxation-1/19984468

Eerock
01-21-16, 17:54
Thanks for the tip. I will call and see with burner. Have any of yall checked out DC AMPs? Do they have younger women? And I did not see anyone talk about recent providers with melons. G&G had one who was NICE even though in 40's, but was gone after the first time. You can PM me, but let me know about well endowed providers, who don't have guts please. A little chubby is ok.DC AMPs are only a memory these days. You might check the board for PG County MD.

Slate Gravel
01-21-16, 22:04
Stumbled upon this place (right behind PM Mall) while looking for a restaurant. Clearly this was our kind of massage parlor. 40-ish Asian lady, started with rub thru the towel, then oil without towel, then hot stones (nice), then body shampoo (skip this, not as good as a table shower and was 20 extra), then the flip and HE, followed by cleanup with warm washcloth (lots of oil had been used). 60/40 (plus I chose the body shampoo option for an extra 20 house fee, but will pass on this next time).

SG.

Krakatoa
01-22-16, 23:41
Greetings, I am new to this board and all it encompasses. I per used comments last year for a couple weeks, and then started reading more about two months ago.

A nice initial contribution! Welcome to the board and to the hobby.

Cdcaia
01-23-16, 13:55
http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/a-detailed-review-of-many-of-the-dc-area-body-rub-girls/20922997

Did anyone get a copy of this guy's excel? I'd love to get it, but I haven't received a response to my inquiries. It would be awesome if someone could assist.

OldBoomer
01-23-16, 15:20
Stumbled upon this place (right behind PM Mall) while looking for a restaurant. Clearly this was our kind of massage parlor. 40-ish Asian lady, started with rub thru the towel, then oil without towel, then hot stones (nice), then body shampoo (skip this, not as good as a table shower and was 20 extra), then the flip and HE, followed by cleanup with warm washcloth (lots of oil had been used). 60/40 (plus I chose the body shampoo option for an extra 20 house fee, but will pass on this next time).

SG.It may take a little more to find this place. PM is a big place. Perhaps a name would help. Was the 60/40 for a HH? Was the TS included?

Fun Sex
01-24-16, 04:42
A few days ago, I decided to give Nicole a try. My experience wasn't bad at all, but I may not repeat. Schedule an appointment was easy. She sent me a text with her address. I called her when I arrived at her condo. She asked me to wait. She called me back after 15 minutes. Now, here comes the interesting experience.

The condo has only one room. They have 2 girls work in that condo. I entered the condo and saw a condo on the right which was converted to a massage room. It has only a thin curtain, so I can hear things. Nicole took me to the bedroom. There was a bathroom in there. Well, you probably think that I am in a bedroom, and it would be better? No, it wasn't. The "client" in the living room came in and used the bathroom after he was done. They scheduled their clients about 15 minutes, so the clients can share the bathroom.

I was there for an hour, but it felt like a century. I constantly hear noises from the living room or the bathroom. For this reason alone, I am not going back there.

Here is the link: http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658-visiting-to-feb-10/20693153.

JmSuttr
01-24-16, 12:54
A few days ago, I decided to give Nicole a try. My experience wasn't bad at all, but I may not repeat. Schedule an appointment was easy. She sent me a text with her address. I called her when I arrived at her condo. She asked me to wait. She called me back after 15 minutes. Now, here comes the interesting experience.

The condo has only one room. They have 2 girls work in that condo. I entered the condo and saw a condo on the right which was converted to a massage room. It has only a thin curtain, so I can hear things. Nicole took me to the bedroom. There was a bathroom in there. Well, you probably think that I am in a bedroom, and it would be better? No, it wasn't. The "client" in the living room came in and used the bathroom after he was done. They scheduled their clients about 15 minutes, so the clients can share the bathroom.

I was there for an hour, but it felt like a century. I constantly hear noises from the living room or the bathroom. For this reason alone, I am not going back there.

Here is the link: http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658-visiting-to-feb-10/20693153.Absolutely understand your issues with the location but would still like to know details of the session in case that situation changes. Knowing the $ charged, the services provided, available menu upgrades and overall attitude would be helpful in deciding whether she's worth a visit under better circumstances.

Trewaller
01-24-16, 13:16
Absolutely understand your issues with the location but would still like to know details of the session in case that situation changes. Knowing the $ charged, the services provided, available menu upgrades and overall attitude would be helpful in deciding whether she's worth a visit under better circumstances.I visited her also and I found the language barrier to be the first issue and she either forgot about our appointment or something else but I went to her condo and waited for 30 minutes and left. Luckily I live very close so it was not a terrible inconvenience to return when she finally got around to communicating. The set-up was definitely weird but I was the only client and did not see the other girl. I have used the other two in the apartment complex over on Lee Hwy and their massages are both superior to Nicole's. I went to Nicole because I thought there had been a mention in this forum about upgraded services but I experienced nothing like that unless I missed it in our communication LOL It was the standard 120/ hour with a nova finish. There was no disrobing on her part so all in all I will stick to my other two which I have seen many times.

Slate Gravel
01-26-16, 00:24
It may take a little more to find this place. PM is a big place. Perhaps a name would help. Was the 60/40 for a HH? Was the TS included?If you are going down Telegraph road, it's just past IKEA on the right side of the street. Not facing the street, but in a small industrial park looking lot (we turned around there and that's how we came across it). It is called XY massage and had a neon Open sign.

It was 60 for an hour, (full hour given) added a "body shampoo" for extra 20. This was not a table shower, it was soap and washcloth on the massage table. I would pass on that if I go again. No table shower was offered, I thought that was what was meant when she asked if I wanted body shampoo. Her English was not too understandable. But good massage and HE.

Pcpc1688
01-27-16, 10:53
I recently had a nice dream about Vicky. In the dream, she had a very nice place that was clean and spacious. Very good massage skills and there was a lot of happiness. A lot of happiness. Not young and limited menu, but IMHO much better than any AMP I have dreamed about for similar roses.Did a lot of happiness include roaming, DATY, or anything else interesting and of course 2 pops? Thinking about it this week perhaps.

PC out.

Skooby
01-28-16, 19:07
Looks like there is a new one around Centreville...:

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ultimate-relaxation-by-tina/21227345

OldBoomer
01-28-16, 21:57
My regular dream massage girl is not answering her phone. The alternative I have been meaning to try said she was not taking any new clients, but maybe next week. So I headed to the place off Backlick in Springfeild that was called Galaxy. The have changed their name to the Greek mythology name for Zeus' wife and sister. Odd name as Zeus' wife was known to be very jealous of his wandering eye. What do you think they are trying to tell us? In any case, a provider I know was there but they were busy for another "30 Minutes". So I wandered over to the Blue in the same area. I was greeted by a friendly good looking late 40's provider. Went for the table shower which was very good. After the table shower, there was a little more negotiation over the tip than I like, but we settled on. 8/. 5 for and hour and what she considered extras. This was a little high for the service, but ok. The massage was a 5/10, not terrible, but certainly not as good as I have had in the other place next door. She was skillful at providing a HE about 1/3 of the way through the hour. I actually like this as everything is now relaxed and the I can enjoy the remaining massage. Unfortunately the massage was not very good and about 40 minutes in she announced we were done. I said, "really is it 10 after already?" She continued for another 15 minutes before wrapping up only 5 minutes early; still short Then she proceeded to complain about the agreed upon tip. This seriously screwed up the overall good feeling I had. Luckily, I only had in my possession what I had agreed to give. I told her this and she said, "next time more. ' I smiled as pleasantly as possible.

I know some of you have done well at Blue. For me, the search will be elsewhere.

Trewaller
01-30-16, 09:10
Has anyone tried this one; out of a falls church hotel.

Skooby
01-30-16, 10:44
Has anyone tried this one; out of a falls church hotel.Ad for this person?

Mongeroose
01-30-16, 12:44
Did a lot of happiness include roaming, DATY, or anything else interesting and of course 2 pops? Thinking about it this week perhaps.

PC out.Recommend you pass. I saw her last week based on the previous review. Location is nice, but service was less than what I get at FWC. YMMV of course. Condo parking was a bit wonky too.

I also visited Nurse JJ. Wouldn't recommend her either. She gets in her birthday suit, but it is still just a HE with some FIV and roaming allowed. Perhaps others are able to negotiate more?

Mongeroose
01-30-16, 12:49
Thanks for the tip. I will call and see with burner. Have any of yall checked out DC AMPs? Do they have younger women? And I did not see anyone talk about recent providers with melons. G&G had one who was NICE even though in 40's, but was gone after the first time. You can PM me, but let me know about well endowed providers, who don't have guts please. A little chubby is ok.You should definitely check out Vivian if you are a breast man in search of a body rub.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/100-special-springfield-incall-36dd-hot-sexy-great-personality-and-a-pretty-face-wants-to-rub-u-up-and-down/14724750

JmSuttr
01-30-16, 15:53
Recommend you pass. I saw her last week based on the previous review. Location is nice, but service was less than what I get at FWC. YMMV of course. Condo parking was a bit wonky too.

I also visited Nurse JJ. Wouldn't recommend her either. She gets in her birthday suit, but it is still just a HE with some FIV and roaming allowed. Perhaps others are able to negotiate more?Both have their pros and cons so it really comes down to individual preferences. At an AMP your a bit more exposed (not talking about draping, LOL) in that it's out in public and there's always the possibility of an unwelcome visit by LEO or county license enforcement. Also, the quality of massage in AMPs is pretty hit or miss, with the main focus being on the sensual side of things. But if you luck out and get an AMP girl who is great in both departments, make sure to thank the hobby gods and get her digits so you don't lose track of her.

With Vicky the focus is primarily on a high quality massage, with some teasing before the flip and a pretty nice hand finish but not much more on the menu. Her services and style are similar to those offered by Ms. Virginia in Sterling. So, if that's what your looking for, Vicky more than satisfies. Pricewise it works out the same as a typical 80 + 40 at an AMP. And another pro for Vicky is that I've never been shorted on time or had any hint of upsell.

Of course every monger has their preference but Vicky provides good value for the $ if you know what to expect going in.

JmSuttr
01-30-16, 16:07
I visited her also and I found the language barrier to be the first issue and she either forgot about our appointment or something else but I went to her condo and waited for 30 minutes and left. Luckily I live very close so it was not a terrible inconvenience to return when she finally got around to communicating. The set-up was definitely weird but I was the only client and did not see the other girl. I have used the other two in the apartment complex over on Lee Hwy and their massages are both superior to Nicole's. I went to Nicole because I thought there had been a mention in this forum about upgraded services but I experienced nothing like that unless I missed it in our communication LOL It was the standard 120/ hour with a nova finish. There was no disrobing on her part so all in all I will stick to my other two which I have seen many times.Had a nice visit and she led me into the back bedroom with its own bathroom. Not sure if anyone else was in the apt but I didn't hear anything and no one came in to use the bathroom. In fact, she locked the bedroom door as we walked in so we would have privacy. There's also a 2nd bathroom in the main hallway so not sure why someone would come into the bedroom unless it was by mistake or the other bathroom wasn't working properly or was occupied.

It's true her English isn't great but she understands more than you'd think and takes polite direction well. What works for me is to let her do a back massage and on the flip I take over and show her what I want. If you do that in a low-key and non-aggressive way you should have some good success (YMMV and seniors can PM for more detail). And once you've seen her and she's comfortable with you it gets easier. She's had some bad client experiences so she may be guarded at first.

It can be a little challenging making contact and scheduling, maybe because of the language issue. I use text instead of calling so that way she can translate if she doesn't understand.

BTW, she's leaving for Thailand on Feb 10th and will be gone for a few months.

Trewaller
01-30-16, 16:19
Ad for this person?It's a CL post so it gets flagged fairly quickly; but here it is:

Ello 🌹.

Thank you for taking the time to open & respond to my ad! 🙂.

I'm a mixed (european🇨127472;/ southamerican🇧127479, sweet, beauty whos comfortable with her body offering (as you should already know) relaxing tantric massages (hot stones available if you'd like) I'm very sweet and loving. Always have a nice gentle vibe. Very easy to talk to. And totally non judgemental😁 here are my rates.

60 hh sexy lingerie, 80 fh sexy lingerie, 110 90 minutes sexy lingerie. $25 extra topless $50 extra nude. $30 extra for me to bathe you. If you'd like to add hot stones its $40 extra. Longer sessions always available mutual touch is included in the rates as well as leaving happy.

Prices MAY be negotiable. No promises though. I'm totally worth it. 🤑 (Pics available pending your response).

I'm able to host in my hotel room in falls church! And my schedule is very flexible just let me know when you were trying to see me and I will let you know if I'm able to pencil you in. Last-minute calls are sometimes welcome so please don't hesitate to ask if I'm available now.

Please let me know if still interested.

Also, by replying to this message you are also agreeing that you ARE NOT affiliated with any law enforcement AT ALL and if you are to respond when that is in fact.

NOT TRUE it is considered ENTRAPMENT! ✋127997;128405;127997;.

Here's my real email in case CL emails gets shitty LOL: elliekittie1219@gmail.com.

Pcpc1688
01-30-16, 16:54
Recommend you pass. I saw her last week based on the previous review. Location is nice, but service was less than what I get at FWC. YMMV of course. Condo parking was a bit wonky too.

I also visited Nurse JJ. Wouldn't recommend her either. She gets in her birthday suit, but it is still just a HE with some FIV and roaming allowed. Perhaps others are able to negotiate more?My experience is same not with here but I agree 100% of course YMMV depending on chemistry etc.

PC out.

Mustang946
01-31-16, 14:58
You should definitely check out Vivian if you are a breast man in search of a body rub.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/100-special-springfield-incall-36dd-hot-sexy-great-personality-and-a-pretty-face-wants-to-rub-u-up-and-down/14724750Vivian provides a good service and value for your dollars but I have twice experienced delays in our appointed time as she has a tendency to take other appointments after scheduling and I have had to wait. The last time I had to cancel as she postponed our meeting as she had taken a shorter term appointment while I was enroute to see her. The delay, 45 minutes, prevented me from seeing her as my hobby window was closing. To be fair, she did text me while I was on the way asking me to delay but I don't text or call while driving. Not sure if I will see her again.

Chimpira
01-31-16, 22:29
Good location, Cindy was my provider. Decent massage, overall disappointed and will not return.

Telcova
02-01-16, 10:27
They were advertising 30/$40 60/$60 yesterday and was in the area. May was to be my administrator, she's on the thin side and in her 40's.

Decent massage and good tease at the end, on the flip out came the be's, roaming allowed no fiv.

Standard tip, Worth a repeat for service and a nice value play this weekend.

Fun Sex
02-01-16, 12:41
Had a nice visit and she led me into the back bedroom with its own bathroom. Not sure if anyone else was in the apt but I didn't hear anything and no one came in to use the bathroom. In fact, she locked the bedroom door as we walked in so we would have privacy. There's also a 2nd bathroom in the main hallway so not sure why someone would come into the bedroom unless it was by mistake or the other bathroom wasn't working properly or was occupied.

It's true her English isn't great but she understands more than you'd think and takes polite direction well. What works for me is to let her do a back massage and on the flip I take over and show her what I want. If you do that in a low-key and non-aggressive way you should have some good success (YMMV and seniors can PM for more detail). And once you've seen her and she's comfortable with you it gets easier. She's had some bad client experiences so she may be guarded at first.

It can be a little challenging making contact and scheduling, maybe because of the language issue. I use text instead of calling so that way she can translate if she doesn't understand.

BTW, she's leaving for Thailand on Feb 10th and will be gone for a few months.When I visited Nicole, I heard noise from the living room once every 15 minutes or so. That was enough to make you uncomfortable. But no, someone also came in to use the bathroom. That's the deal breaker for me.

Jim Rob
02-01-16, 13:09
I wouldn't trust that add at all!!


It's a CL post so it gets flagged fairly quickly; but here it is:

Ello .

Thank you for taking the time to open & respond to my ad! .

I'm a mixed (european127472;/ southamerican127479, sweet, beauty whos comfortable with her body offering (as you should already know) relaxing tantric massages (hot stones available if you'd like) I'm very sweet and loving. Always have a nice gentle vibe. Very easy to talk to. And totally non judgemental here are my rates.

60 hh sexy lingerie, 80 fh sexy lingerie, 110 90 minutes sexy lingerie. $25 extra topless $50 extra nude. $30 extra for me to bathe you. If you'd like to add hot stones its $40 extra. Longer sessions always available mutual touch is included in the rates as well as leaving happy.

Prices MAY be negotiable. No promises though. I'm totally worth it. 螺 (Pics available pending your response).

I'm able to host in my hotel room in falls church! And my schedule is very flexible just let me know when you were trying to see me and I will let you know if I'm able to pencil you in. Last-minute calls are sometimes welcome so please don't hesitate to ask if I'm available now.

Please let me know if still interested.

Also, by replying to this message you are also agreeing that you ARE NOT affiliated with any law enforcement AT ALL and if you are to respond when that is in fact.

NOT TRUE it is considered ENTRAPMENT! ✋127997;128405;127997;.

Here's my real email in case CL emails gets shitty LOL: elliekittie1219@gmail.com.

NyHornet
02-01-16, 15:19
A few days ago, I decided to give Nicole a try. My experience wasn't bad at all, but I may not repeat. Schedule an appointment was easy. She sent me a text with her address. I called her when I arrived at her condo. She asked me to wait. She called me back after 15 minutes. Now, here comes the interesting experience.

The condo has only one room. They have 2 girls work in that condo. I entered the condo and saw a condo on the right which was converted to a massage room. It has only a thin curtain, so I can hear things. Nicole took me to the bedroom. There was a bathroom in there. Well, you probably think that I am in a bedroom, and it would be better? No, it wasn't. The "client" in the living room came in and used the bathroom after he was done. They scheduled their clients about 15 minutes, so the clients can share the bathroom.

I was there for an hour, but it felt like a century. I constantly hear noises from the living room or the bathroom. For this reason alone, I am not going back there.

Here is the link: http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658-visiting-to-feb-10/20693153.I made an appointment with her a week ago. Found out she and Cristine had moved from previous location to Fairfax where some others also live and work. I drove 40 minutes to get there and was a few minutes late due to traffic. In the meantime she took another client and asked me to wait outside for 5 minutes. Well the wait became 15 and I was freezing (WTF), I returned to my car and continued to wait since I had travelled there. After 30 I called and talked to Cristine who said Nicole was bust (No shit). So I tried to arrange with Cristine, kinda awkward! While I waited for her to get back to me, I tried Sharon and Tara, but one was busy and the other didn't answer. Finally I sent Cristine a text and said I was leaving. 10 min. Down the road, I get a text from one or maybe both of them saying OK to come now. Told them, I'm gone! Received one more text saying, sorry. Sorry indeed. I've had some great sessions with Cristine, but never seen Nicole. Probably never will. Plenty of other options, who won't pull that crap.

Don't really care for their location.

NyHornet
02-01-16, 15:23
If you are going down Telegraph road, it's just past IKEA on the right side of the street. Not facing the street, but in a small industrial park looking lot (we turned around there and that's how we came across it). It is called XY massage and had a neon Open sign.

It was 60 for an hour, (full hour given) added a "body shampoo" for extra 20. This was not a table shower, it was soap and washcloth on the massage table. I would pass on that if I go again. No table shower was offered, I thought that was what was meant when she asked if I wanted body shampoo. Her English was not too understandable. But good massage and HE.I was over on that area, and decided to make a trip to this place. Had been there once when it first opened and was a decent experience.

Started out with an attractive lady named Mae, with soft sensual hands. Unfortunately, about 15-20 minutes in, apparently a regular of hers came in and she asked if another lady could finish the hour. Being a nice guy, I said OK. The rest of the session with (Lucy, I think) was very average. I would repeat but not with her. Would like to see Mae though.

Trewaller
02-01-16, 16:30
I wouldn't trust that add at all!!Oh. I agree but she's at the Best Western on Arlington Blvd in case anyone cares. My first contact with her was January 24th; what do you think the problem with it would be. The rates are pretty much in line. I can't put my finger on it but my radar said stay away.

Jim Rob
02-01-16, 18:28
My monger brother, a few things concern me.

1. She's says her rates are negotiable, no girl says that's unless she's a crack head.

2. Her little disclaimer at the end. Saying hey police you can't get me because of my disclaimer. BS. (targeting dumb mongers with that.

3. The email. Craigslist will hide your email, if you email her direct without craigslist makes it faster and easier for le to find out who you are without having to get craigslist to turn it over.

4. Her picture. Too sexy, just like in Return of the Jedi, "it's a trap".


Oh. I agree but she's at the Best Western on Arlington Blvd in case anyone cares. My first contact with her was January 24th; what do you think the problem with it would be. The rates are pretty much in line. I can't put my finger on it but my radar said stay away.

AznVrep
02-01-16, 18:37
I am no spring chicken. I will say this talk of old ladies being better because of experience is very noble. It wasn't that many years ago that we all would have laughed at such nonsense. Non of today's providers hold a candle to the girls of HWC or Kinja. Some of you remember the good times. It just went to crap. The young girls used to be top notch in service.They've all moved further north. Sometimes it's worth the drive but it turns in to a half day event due to commute.

Kraven Morehed
02-01-16, 22:12
You should definitely check out Vivian if you are a breast man in search of a body rub.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/100-special-springfield-incall-36dd-hot-sexy-great-personality-and-a-pretty-face-wants-to-rub-u-up-and-down/14724750You the man. But she seems confused between body rub and esc LOL. That $100 is hopefully for an hour. Thanks, I will save that contact, as well as any other recommendations.

Kraven Morehead and milk instead.

Eerock
02-02-16, 13:52
If you are going down Telegraph road, it's just past IKEA on the right side of the street. Not facing the street, but in a small industrial park looking lot (we turned around there and that's how we came across it). It is called XY massage and had a neon Open sign.

It was 60 for an hour, (full hour given) added a "body shampoo" for extra 20. This was not a table shower, it was soap and washcloth on the massage table. I would pass on that if I go again. No table shower was offered, I thought that was what was meant when she asked if I wanted body shampoo. Her English was not too understandable. But good massage and HE.Advertising on CL now: Dynasty loop, woodbridge VA, 22192.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5430111404.html

Skooby
02-02-16, 16:56
Advertising on CL now: Dynasty loop, woodbridge VA, 22192.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5430111404.html

Woodbridge is a little out of the way, but I might make the trip one day.

Can someone be so kind and describe the ladies at this place. As far as body type?

Crankcase
02-02-16, 20:22
Saw Cindy again last week in Chantilly, and had a great visit.

She remembered me, and was again friendly, welcoming, and delightful.

I have found a good local. I appreciate the info many have posted.

The see / L stuff gives me Spidey-sense. The feeling that a non commercial address can lead to more possible issues with unexpected 'help' trying to extract more $$ or just a trick to beat someone. I am not experienced, just wary.

Roamin Roman
02-02-16, 23:08
Woodbridge is a little out of the way, but I might make the trip one day.

Can someone be so kind and describe the ladies at this place. As far as body type?Can't give any descriptions of the ladies, but the location does not look to be low-key (at least, not in daytime).


https://www.google.com/maps/@38.640859,-77.2904483,3a,37.3y,361.5h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-rIqozEtbK76G6f8DhUFHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

JazonArgos15
02-04-16, 09:33
Although the snow caused lots of problems (and back muscular pain for many of us), I found a "silver lining" in the snowy clouds last week at Edsal Therapy.

Location: Convenient location just north of the 395 mixing bowl. Parking lot faces street. Lots of spaces (except for snow coverage).

Disadvantage -- ring the bell and wait for manager to open door (no vestibule).

Staff: Manager is a very nice K-lady. Led me to studio upstairs.

Studio: Several upstairs. Everything I noticed was meticulously clean. Good sized table, but no "face cradle. " Linen clean.

Prelims: Found out the manager was also the massage tech. She is fit and attractive (unlike me) and (like me) over-50.

After paying standard house fee, was told to wait and then subsequently escorted across the hall to the shower room where I received a very good scrub. Much appreciated. Took time to wash my face, and wipe down feet as exiting the shower room.

The rub: One of the best massages ever. For a slender lady she had strong hands and made good use of elbows and arms. Excellent stretching. Great deep rub on calves and feet.

Denouement: The entire visit was high quality. I received every minute of my hour (and I enjoyed every minute) for which I left an appropriate (standard) gratuity. She helped me dress, gave me water, and walked me down the stairs, wished me well, and I was on my way.

Summary: CONS: If stairs or senior staff are a problem for you, you will want to try elsewhere. It would be nice if there was a vestibule (to get in out of the weather / parking lot with more subtlety).

PROS: a nice lady, a great massage experience (at least for me).

My simple odyssey continues.

JazonArgos15.

Chimpira
02-04-16, 22:11
Well kept establishment, Anne was beautiful and massage was great. Standard door fee, you will not be disappointed, logging it as one of my ATFs.

MrSunnyHills
02-05-16, 07:41
Has anyone seen Cristine for awhile? I heard her service had dropped, and then Nicole showed up on the scene, and I don't even know if Cristine is seeing clients or whether her service is still dropped off.


I made an appointment with her a week ago. Found out she and Cristine had moved from previous location to Fairfax where some others also live and work. I drove 40 minutes to get there and was a few minutes late due to traffic. In the meantime she took another client and asked me to wait outside for 5 minutes. Well the wait became 15 and I was freezing (WTF), I returned to my car and continued to wait since I had travelled there. After 30 I called and talked to Cristine who said Nicole was bust (No shit). So I tried to arrange with Cristine, kinda awkward! While I waited for her to get back to me, I tried Sharon and Tara, but one was busy and the other didn't answer. Finally I sent Cristine a text and said I was leaving. 10 min. Down the road, I get a text from one or maybe both of them saying OK to come now. Told them, I'm gone! Received one more text saying, sorry. Sorry indeed. I've had some great sessions with Cristine, but never seen Nicole. Probably never will. Plenty of other options, who won't pull that crap.

Don't really care for their location.

JmSuttr
02-05-16, 08:51
Has anyone seen Cristine for awhile? I heard her service had dropped, and then Nicole showed up on the scene, and I don't even know if Cristine is seeing clients or whether her service is still dropped off.I've seen her ad on BP but not every day as before. Maybe working with Nicole has caused her to change her schedule. My last visit with Cristine was not as good as previous ones. Don't know if that was a temporary thing or if she's just burned herself out. If you have her number you could probably just text her and ask if she's available.

FYI, Nicole is going away for a few months as of Feb 10th. Not sure if Cristine will start working more after that and not sure if that will have any effect on her level of service.

FWIW, I've nothing but good sessions with Nicole and I plan to see her again before she leaves. She's not a seasoned pro so maybe that helps to explain some of the scheduling issues others have had with her. I try to visit during slower times so I've never had a problem. As in all things, YMMV, of course.

MrSunnyHills
02-05-16, 18:37
Went to a relatively low key AMP on Gallows. Advertise in Craigslist. Got a Chinese tech down from NYC. Very good massage quality and decent NOVA finish. "late lunchtime", but nice that there were no interruptions.

HighPdp
02-05-16, 19:56
Went to a relatively low key AMP on Gallows. Advertise in Craigslist. Got a Chinese tech down from NYC. Very good massage quality and decent NOVA finish. "late lunchtime", but nice that there were no interruptions.Interesting, ad link or addess please, thanks.

HighPdp
02-05-16, 21:43
Went to a relatively low key AMP on Gallows. Advertise in Craigslist. Got a Chinese tech down from NYC. Very good massage quality and decent NOVA finish. "late lunchtime", but nice that there were no interruptions.Any chance to share the ad link? Thanks.

Pcpc1688
02-06-16, 09:24
Well kept establishment, Anne was beautiful and massage was great. Standard door fee, you will not be disappointed, logging it as one of my ATFs.There is no Anne that works at G and G. What did she look like as I know all there.

PC out.

Tom McAn
02-06-16, 13:39
I've seen her ad on BP but not every day as before. Maybe working with Nicole has caused her to change her schedule. My last visit with Cristine was not as good as previous ones. Don't know if that was a temporary thing or if she's just burned herself out. If you have her number you could probably just text her and ask if she's available.

FYI, Nicole is going away for a few months as of Feb 10th. Not sure if Cristine will start working more after that and not sure if that will have any effect on her level of service.

FWIW, I've nothing but good sessions with Nicole and I plan to see her again before she leaves. She's not a seasoned pro so maybe that helps to explain some of the scheduling issues others have had with her. I try to visit during slower times so I've never had a problem. As in all things, YMMV, of course.I've seen recent ads containing Cristine's phone number but no mention of her name. Is she still working, or is someone else using her phone while she takes a break? In any case, I don't plan to check it out. In addition to my less-than-satisfactory experience with Nicole, the apartment setup left me creeped out. The providers used black curtains to divide their respective work spaces, and the lights were so low I had trouble finding my way around.

JmSuttr
02-06-16, 16:30
I've seen recent ads containing Cristine's phone number but no mention of her name. Is she still working, or is someone else using her phone while she takes a break? In any case, I don't plan to check it out. In addition to my less-than-satisfactory experience with Nicole, the apartment setup left me creeped out. The providers used black curtains to divide their respective work spaces, and the lights were so low I had trouble finding my way around.Here's Cristine's most recent ad:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sexy-asian-relaxation-with-nice-touch-body-rubs-shaving-and-nail-care/17055171

Sometimes the Thai ladies change names or don't put names in the ad but the quickest way to find out her status is to call or text.

Sorry you've had a less than satisfactory experience but I guess it all comes down to YMMV because I've never had any problem communicating with Nicole and getting good service and an expanded menu. As far as the apt is concerned, my sessions with her have always been in the back master bedroom suite, with private bathroom, and behind a locked door so never any privacy issues.

As far as Cristine is concerned, my last session with her was the the Fair Oaks location so I don't know how she handles her Fairfax appts. But right now I much prefer Nicole over Cristine. She comes across (with me, anyway) as much less jaded by the biz.

Trewaller
02-07-16, 11:50
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-by-thai-jackie/21658572

Is this place new?

Chimpira
02-08-16, 01:27
There is no Anne that works at G and G. What did she look like as I know all there.

PC out.She is half Korean, half Japanese, short, banging body. She said she works Tues-Sat. When I walked in and glaced at the massage license photos I was expecting mediocre looking talent, then she walked up to the door in a short white skirt and tank top, beautiful!

Vamassage Fan
02-08-16, 17:02
http://dreamymaid.com/Dreamy_Maid/Girls.html

And if you search the oThER site using the 571 number you will find several reviews, mostly positive. But of course with any agency there's no guarantee all the girls are honest. One possible strategy would be to take your clothes (or at least whatever you used to stash your extra cash) into the bathroom while you shower. But it's certainly no guarantee and the better option is simply to avoid possible thieves.

Thanks for the warning post because I had been thinking about giving them a call.I've used them multiple times and had a variety of wonderful dreams. Never complete FS, but always great dream time and ending, also never a quick rushed dream.

Miketastic69
02-09-16, 12:40
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-by-thai-jackie/21658572

Is this place new?I will be in Nova in a few weeks and wondering if I should try Jackie or one of the Thai ladies out on 66. Is this part of the same outfit as Nalee? Is the below girl part of it as well? I am interested, and will TOFT in March & report back if you all can wait that long. Here are the links in question.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-massage-with-thai-lady/21210222

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-wth-thai-ladies/21627055

Miketastic69
02-09-16, 12:53
I plan to try this one first, and then schedule the rest during that week.

http://www.whatshewilldo.com/571-327-8862/?id=21341020

She looks smoking in the pictures.


I will be in Nova in a few weeks and wondering if I should try Jackie or one of the Thai ladies out on 66. Is this part of the same outfit as Nalee? Is the below girl part of it as well? I am interested, and will TOFT in March & report back if you all can wait that long. Here are the links in question.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-massage-with-thai-lady/21210222

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-wth-thai-ladies/21627055

NyHornet
02-09-16, 17:34
I plan to try this one first, and then schedule the rest during that week.

http://www.whatshewilldo.com/571-327-8862/?id=21341020

She looks smoking in the pictures.Lucy is the one in this link and also in the first of the two links below.

She is co-located with Jackie in a nice apartment complex.

She is pretty hot. Average massage, with expensive up sells, then again my negotiating skills may have lacked that day.

I think this is her real picture. If not, very close to her actual looks.

I met Jackie, but have not seen for a session.

That is not her real picture.

I thought she was cute, but not as voluptuous as Lucy. Jackie has a couple of recent reviews on another site.

Miketastic69
02-09-16, 17:41
Lucy is the one in this link and also in the first of the two links below.

She is co-located with Jackie in a nice apartment complex.

She is pretty hot. Average massage, with expensive up sells, then again my negotiating skills may have lacked that day.

I think this is her real picture. If not, very close to her actual looks.

I met Jackie, but have not seen for a session.

That is not her real picture.

I thought she was cute, but not as voluptuous as Lucy. Jackie has a couple of recent reviews on another site.I am wondering if either one of them have additional offerings than the standard massage and finish? I am still planning to find out for myself. If anyone knows hit me up.

Pcpc1688
02-10-16, 09:25
She is half Korean, half Japanese, short, banging body. She said she works Tues-Sat. When I walked in and glaced at the massage license photos I was expecting mediocre looking talent, then she walked up to the door in a short white skirt and tank top, beautiful!What was on the menu then with her?

PC out.

EnderPete
02-10-16, 19:04
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-by-thai-jackie/21658572

Is this place new?I only did the session with her so I didn't see the other girl (s).

It isn't the same place a Nalee and I don't think they are related but who knows a lot of these ladies do know each other.

Massage was average to above average.

Standard Nova service with some open roaming. Not sure if she opens up more as I've only seen her once.

Picture isn't her of course but she was good looking with a nice body.

JmSuttr
02-10-16, 22:06
I will be in Nova in a few weeks and wondering if I should try Jackie or one of the Thai ladies out on 66. Is this part of the same outfit as Nalee? Is the below girl part of it as well? I am interested, and will TOFT in March & report back if you all can wait that long. Here are the links in question.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-massage-with-thai-lady/21210222

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-wth-thai-ladies/21627055The two groups of Thai women know each other but maybe the best way to think about them is as independent part-timers who happen to share an apt to keep down expenses. Each one of them has their own style and menu and some tend to upsell more than others. AFAICT, the ladies in Fairfax right now are Sharon, Anna and Joey while the Centreville ladies are Lucy and Tina. Jackie has left the area and it's unclear if or when she'll be returning.

For a basic FBSM at $120, it's comparable to the cost of an AMP. But IME anything beyond that starts to get a bit pricey because they tend to ask for more than you would pay for comparable expanded service at an AMP.

Of course, YMMV, and if you become enough of a regular then it's possible you could get a better deal.

Also, as far as I'm aware they are not connected to Nalee, Tara, or Nikki.

NyHornet
02-10-16, 23:29
The two groups of Thai women know each other but maybe the best way to think about them is as independent part-timers who happen to share an apt to keep down expenses. Each one of them has their own style and menu and some tend to upsell more than others. AFAICT, the ladies in Fairfax right now are Sharon, Anna and Joey while the Centreville ladies are Lucy and Tina. Jackie has left the area and it's unclear if or when she'll be returning.

For a basic FBSM at $120, it's comparable to the cost of an AMP. But IME anything beyond that starts to get a bit pricey because they tend to ask for more than you would pay for comparable expanded service at an AMP.

Of course, YMMV, and if you become enough of a regular then it's possible you could get a better deal.

Also, as far as I'm aware they are not connected to Nalee, Tara, or Nikki.Or Cristine and Nicole.

BTW, when I was at the apartment to see Lucy, I had the impression that it was Jackie's place. Could have been a false impression, I guess. Also, Jackie once referred me to Sharon, her friend when she was unavailable due to waiting for a maintenance man to come to her / the apt. Didn't see Sharon, as times didn't mesh.

Kraven Morehed
02-13-16, 04:03
I was over on that area, and decided to make a trip to this place. Had been there once when it first opened and was a decent experience.

Started out with an attractive lady named Mae, with soft sensual hands. Unfortunately, about 15-20 minutes in, apparently a regular of hers came in and she asked if another lady could finish the hour. Being a nice guy, I said OK. The rest of the session with (Lucy, I think) was very average. I would repeat but not with her. Would like to see Mae though.Is that may or Ma-e?

Zingie
02-13-16, 09:42
The two groups of Thai women know each other but maybe the best way to think about them is as independent part-timers who happen to share an apt to keep down expenses. Each one of them has their own style and menu and some tend to upsell more than others. AFAICT, the ladies in Fairfax right now are Sharon, Anna and Joey...Any experience with Joey? How is she?

Zingie
02-13-16, 09:50
Has anyone seen Cristine for awhile? I heard her service had dropped, and then Nicole showed up on the scene, and I don't even know if Cristine is seeing clients or whether her service is still dropped off.I saw her once she started up at her new location near Fair Oaks. Not a fan. As others have noted, the service seems to have declined since moving from FFX. Didn't ever see her in FFX, so can't compare, but for me, her massage was crap, she was constantly on her phone, and lackluster end. I can overlook the just moved in look of her apartment, but service wise, wouldn't go back.

NovaCane
02-13-16, 16:06
I saw her once she started up at her new location near Fair Oaks. Not a fan. As others have noted, the service seems to have declined since moving from FFX. Didn't ever see her in FFX, so can't compare, but for me, her massage was crap, she was constantly on her phone, and lackluster end. I can overlook the just moved in look of her apartment, but service wise, wouldn't go back.I saw her twice a year or so ago in FFX and the massage was decent, her body was nice and she was very pleasant and enjoyable. The menu didn't expand much on the 2nd visit although YMMV. It sounds like there are growing reviews on here that her service has declined. I likely wouldn't go back based on that just because there is too much competition out there and I'd rather give my money to someone who will give me an enjoyable time and hopefully a lasting memory. However, after recently dating a Thai girl for many months I have a new appreciation for Thai women.

Of course, in my experience, the menus of these thai body rub girls doesn't expand enough for my liking. Frankly, with the upselling I hear about I'd almost be scared to see what the upsell would be to get the menu I desired.

Lioil
02-14-16, 11:02
Since swan closed I haven't been able to find a Chinese place. Anyone know anywhere? Thanks.

Lioil
02-14-16, 15:14
It's true for all of the ladies that I have seen there.What is this place?

Serpico99
02-14-16, 22:44
What is this place?All you do is ask questions and don't post any worthwhile information nor intel in return. As someone on the MD board told you some time ago, RTTF and post some actionable intel reports.

LoveDemAzn
02-15-16, 08:05
Since swan closed I haven't been able to find a Chinese place. Anyone know anywhere? Thanks.Stop asking questions and do some research, then report back. A lot of seniors on here won't help unless you contribute instead of asking question on every post.

Member #5074
02-15-16, 09:34
I dreamt I went here last week about 7 pm. I don't remember the woman's name but she was an ok looking 30 ish asian. Decent table shower and took her time. I hate a rushed shower. Then back to the room for a pretty good massage. Spine tingling soft touch then she climbed up and took her top off for a boob rub. On the flip a nice hand with roaming. . 8 for the hr with. 6 tip.

Typical Nova pricing I think. My first time there so I don't know what happens when they get to know you.

BB.

Novacreeper
02-15-16, 12:06
Headed down 236 last Saturday to one of my (now formerly) regular estalishments behind the dentist office. Chimed in to a early / mid 30 ish technician (sorry, forgot the name, but does it matter?) Face 5-body 7 with very nice see's very petite chasis. Pretty hard to understand English and tough to communicate.

Went for the hour, $. 8. based on a nice time a few months back with "Shi Shi" Should have went for the 1/2. Skipped the TS and proceeded to strip to the usual client attire. She came back in and removed the towel I had myself wraped with and told me to hit the table. Clean, fresh sheets & towels, nice warm room.

Her overall massage skills were above par for NOVA parlors (7 out of 10) and included oil, very firm massage, hot towel treatment and backwalking. She spent alot of time actually ON me which was nice due to her weighing maybe 100 lbs. Soaking wet. She worked all the standard areas from head to lower back and spent a long time on my hams & glutes which I liked due to recent leg day soreness from the gym.

After she worked out the knots, she proceeded into a nice light nail scratch before the flip.

She told me to flip and the featured presentation began. I kind of like at least a little massage on the front before the teasing begins, but as always at IT, there was none.

She started lightly running her nails over my chest, down my stomach, and straight to Junior Johnson, who was starting to roll over.

Through her very broken English, she went into her tip negotiation as she played, finally agreeing on. 6. I really wish these joints wouldn't ask up front, and I won't agree any more and tell them I 'll tip after I see what I'm paying for. In this case the service was on par, as she totally removed her top, got up on the table for me to play under her short skirt, nurse on youthful (enhanced) see's. She would't let me kiss, like others here, but she did on my chest and worked her way over my stomach finally did the ole' put lotion on her hand and got close for a fake BBBJ. She finally slid off the table and my favorite Diplomat Vladamir Putin made an appearance which made the country happy. She left, came back for the hot towel clean up and offered a bottled water.

Overall, it was an average experience. The one major negative was that she shorted me a full 15 minutes on the session. I told her I wasn't happy but gave her the. 6 based on her performance plus she offed to do a shoulder massage, but I was already dressed and uninterested. The other turn off was several times she complained how slow business was, probably for a sympathy tip, but she was barking up the wrong monger.

Probably tossing in the towel with NOVA AMPs after this one. Way too many independents who offer more sensuous, professional experience and also much GRENer pastures in MD.

Stay Classy Mongerville.

Lioil
02-15-16, 12:54
Stop asking questions and do some research, then report back. A lot of seniors on here won't help unless you contribute instead of asking question on every post.So I can post my reviews that count?

JmSuttr
02-15-16, 15:46
Headed down 236 last Saturday to one of my (now formerly) regular estalishments behind the dentist office. Chimed in to a early / mid 30 ish technician (sorry, forgot the name, but does it matter?) Face 5-body 7 with very nice see's very petite chasis. Pretty hard to understand English and tough to communicate.

Went for the hour, $. 8. based on a nice time a few months back with "Shi Shi" Should have went for the 1/2. Skipped the TS and proceeded to strip to the usual client attire. She came back in and removed the towel I had myself wraped with and told me to hit the table. Clean, fresh sheets & towels, nice warm room.

Her overall massage skills were above par for NOVA parlors (7 out of 10) and included oil, very firm massage, hot towel treatment and backwalking. She spent alot of time actually ON me which was nice due to her weighing maybe 100 lbs. Soaking wet. She worked all the standard areas from head to lower back and spent a long time on my hams & glutes which I liked due to recent leg day soreness from the gym.

After she worked out the knots, she proceeded into a nice light nail scratch before the flip.

She told me to flip and the featured presentation began. I kind of like at least a little massage on the front before the teasing begins, but as always at IT, there was none.

She started lightly running her nails over my chest, down my stomach, and straight to Junior Johnson, who was starting to roll over.

Through her very broken English, she went into her tip negotiation as she played, finally agreeing on. 6. I really wish these joints wouldn't ask up front, and I won't agree any more and tell them I 'll tip after I see what I'm paying for. In this case the service was on par, as she totally removed her top, got up on the table for me to play under her short skirt, nurse on youthful (enhanced) see's. She would't let me kiss, like others here, but she did on my chest and worked her way over my stomach finally did the ole' put lotion on her hand and got close for a fake BBBJ. She finally slid off the table and my favorite Diplomat Vladamir Putin made an appearance which made the country happy. She left, came back for the hot towel clean up and offered a bottled water.

Overall, it was an average experience. The one major negative was that she shorted me a full 15 minutes on the session. I told her I wasn't happy but gave her the. 6 based on her performance plus she offed to do a shoulder massage, but I was already dressed and uninterested. The other turn off was several times she complained how slow business was, probably for a sympathy tip, but she was barking up the wrong monger.

Probably tossing in the towel with NOVA AMPs after this one. Way too many independents who offer more sensuous, professional experience and also much GRENer pastures in MD.

Stay Classy Mongerville.Mostly because there are very few AMPs where the masseuses are either all bad or all good. In many AMPs you can have a great session with one girl (as you apparently did with Shi Shi) and a crap session with another. And it's also fairly common, because of the universal rule of YMMV, for a particular girl to be willing to do more with one client than she is with another.

From your report it seems to me that you actually got an above average session for a tip of 60 (topless + roaming + up on the table with you) except for being shorted on time. I agree that having the girl negotiate in the middle of the session is a bit of a downer (although it didn't bother you on your previous visit) but in your case it doesn't seem like it affected the quality of the service. So, from the point of view of a hobbyist who has a few tricks up their sleeve that help to slow down the session and thereby avoid getting shorted on time, the provider you saw might actually be worth a visit.

But without a name the only thing we know is that you enjoyed your earlier visits with Shi Shi (thanks for the report) and Kelly (no report posted).

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3958-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=2683926&viewfull=1#post2683926

So not a super big deal but just thought I would post as to why, IMHO, the name matters.

Mustang946
02-15-16, 19:45
I dreamt I went here last week about 7 pm. I don't remember the woman's name but she was an ok looking 30 ish asian. Decent table shower and took her time. I hate a rushed shower. Then back to the room for a pretty good massage. Spine tingling soft touch then she climbed up and took her top off for a boob rub. On the flip a nice hand with roaming. . 8 for the hr with. 6 tip.

Typical Nova pricing I think. My first time there so I don't know what happens when they get to know you.

BB.I was there last Friday late afternoon. I drew Mimi who said she had been there for three months but I don't recall seeing her there before. The room was nice and warm and a pleasant change from the cold outside. She provided an above average TS and literally scrubbed every surface. Back to the room for an above average massage. She asked what pressure I preferred and I told her medium followed by soft touch. She then asked if I preferred oil, lotion, or nothing. Today I chose lotion as my skin was a bit dry from the weather. I was allowed to touch everywhere while she was massaging. Before the flip she did the light touch / fingernail touch that I like. I then heard the rustle of clothing and she gave me a total massage with her boobs followed by some body sliding. On the flip some more sliding and putting boobs all over me. My tension was at a high by now and the finish was pretty quick. She then thoroughly cleaned me up and helped me to dress. She offered water and gave junior a nice squeeze before I left. She is a nice addition to the staff. I would say she is late 30's, medium length hair with a spinner body. 80/60 $.

Fun Sex
02-17-16, 01:40
Absolutely understand your issues with the location but would still like to know details of the session in case that situation changes. Knowing the $ charged, the services provided, available menu upgrades and overall attitude would be helpful in deciding whether she's worth a visit under better circumstances.I am sorry for the lack of information. I was somewhat disturbed by the whole experience and forgot to put down the good details. I am sorry for the delay because of my crazy travel for the last 2 weeks.

Nicole's massage was not really a massage, more or less like a body rub. If comparing to Nalee or Tara, Nicole would be half of their talents. On the flip, she was topless. She has a pair of really nice DDs. I sucked on those tits until I exploded in her hands. Her HJ wasn't the best, but it was ok. That was the best part of the visit.

For some reasons, I don't see I am going back there unless I can't schedule with anyone else. I am thinking about trying Lucy or other Thai girls. Any recommendations?

Be safe out there.

FS.

Lioil
02-17-16, 23:41
This experience was really awkward for me. First off I wanted angel but MMS says she's on vacation so I got stuck with Lily. She is not bad looking so I said sure why not? She was extremely cautious during the entire process. I think because not familiar face so that's why? Anyway took a but of convincing to get anywhere. There's TS, . 6 +. 4 for virginia finish. Afterwards she seems to be nicer.

Laura Rager
02-18-16, 17:42
Finally took the time to visit there. She is extremely interested in making sure you have a good experience. When you arrive, she is welcoming at the door. She guides you in by telephone and I suspect sizes you up from the window to see if she will give you the final address. Opted for Gold. She takes you to a shower where she washes you up. She is in the shower with you and behaves as if she really enjoys it. Full roam. She cleans you up and takes you to the massage. The massage is intense to say the least. She slides all over you and works all areas. She sprays it on rather than slathers it on so there is no quite the inflatable tub sort of mess. You have access to full close ups. She gets right in the face, etc. There are no limits on playing except entry anywhere is prohibited. She is extremely good looking and cares a great deal about your satisfaction. There is no indifference. Afterwards, you can shower off. I would repeat because there are few who seem to care as much as she does.

Lioil
02-19-16, 14:32
Finally took the time to visit there. She is extremely interested in making sure you have a good experience. When you arrive, she is welcoming at the door. She guides you in by telephone and I suspect sizes you up from the window to see if she will give you the final address. Opted for Gold. She takes you to a shower where she washes you up. She is in the shower with you and behaves as if she really enjoys it. Full roam. She cleans you up and takes you to the massage. The massage is intense to say the least. She slides all over you and works all areas. She sprays it on rather than slathers it on so there is no quite the inflatable tub sort of mess. You have access to full close ups. She gets right in the face, etc. There are no limits on playing except entry anywhere is prohibited. She is extremely good looking and cares a great deal about your satisfaction. There is no indifference. Afterwards, you can shower off. I would repeat because there are few who seem to care as much as she does.Yeah she is really good. I haven't been able to get any extras. Not sure if it is to more frequent customers?

Kraven Morehed
02-20-16, 05:17
Mostly because there are very few AMPs where the masseuses are either all bad or all good. In many AMPs you can have a great session with one girl (as you apparently did with Shi Shi) and a crap session with another. And it's also fairly common, because of the universal rule of YMMV, for a particular girl to be willing to do more with one client than she is with another.

From your report it seems to me that you actually got an above average session for a tip of 60 (topless + roaming + up on the table with you) except for being shorted on time. I agree that having the girl negotiate in the middle of the session is a bit of a downer (although it didn't bother you on your previous visit) but in your case it doesn't seem like it affected the quality of the service. So, from the point of view of a hobbyist who has a few tricks up their sleeve that help to slow down the session and thereby avoid getting shorted on time, the provider you saw might actually be worth a visit.

But without a name the only thing we know is that you enjoyed your earlier visits with Shi Shi (thanks for the report) and Kelly (no report posted).

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3958-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=2683926&viewfull=1#post2683926

So not a super big deal but just thought I would post as to why, IMHO, the name matters.Hey bro what's the fccc place people talk about, I first thought it was Chinese, then korean. I'm looking to hit up something this weekend, and the fccc place sounds very promising.

Lioil
02-20-16, 11:44
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/russian-ladies-mila-alena-dasha-nuru-body-work-fetish-4-hand/21875040

They are in an apartment complex nearby. 100/ hhr. Anyone been to those? Reason I ask is idk if it is trafficking or not.

Lioil
02-20-16, 17:13
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/russian-ladies-mila-alena-dasha-nuru-body-work-fetish-4-hand/21875040

Never been to Russian parlor so gave it a try. Saw Victoria. She is pretty but looked all business. No smile. Ask 1. 5 for H (100 HHR) and reminded that it is not FS. Massage was OK- no pressure just felt like rubbing the lotion on. Tried to small talk but she answered questions with negatives like "what do you like to do?" - "Nothing. ". After flip some more massage and put lotion on me and just started the finish. Asked about extras but too pricey. No touching and. 8 for nude I said no thanks. Total 1. 5 damage which really adds up to your typical. 6-8 + . 6-8 tip. BTW I paid 160 since she didn't have change. I say pass.

JmSuttr
02-21-16, 11:45
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/russian-ladies-mila-alena-dasha-nuru-body-work-fetish-4-hand/21875040

Never been to Russian parlor so gave it a try. Saw Victoria. She is pretty but looked all business. No smile. Ask 1. 5 for H (100 HHR) and reminded that it is not FS. Massage was OK- no pressure just felt like rubbing the lotion on. Tried to small talk but she answered questions with negatives like "what do you like to do?" - "Nothing. ". After flip some more massage and put lotion on me and just started the finish. Asked about extras but too pricey. No touching and. 8 for nude I said no thanks. Total 1. 5 damage which really adds up to your typical. 6-8 + . 6-8 tip. BTW I paid 160 since she didn't have change. I say pass.A phone number Google search brings up results you can follow to find multiple reviews on the oThER site for Victoria, Polina and probably others. Most of those reviews say pretty much the same thing which is that this place features Russian / Ukrainian girls who are hot looking but give a pretty lackluster massage and anything beyond the standard session gets expensive in a hurry.

Sorry you wasted your $ but you didn't need to TOFTT as the info is out there. It's also worth noting that it isn't a bad idea to go for the shorter session, in this case 100 for the hh, for your first visit. If things go well you can almost always extend without any problem and if the session is bad then at least you're not out as much money.

JmSuttr
02-21-16, 11:52
Hey bro what's the fccc place people talk about, I first thought it was Chinese, then korean. I'm looking to hit up something this weekend, and the fccc place sounds very promising.The FCCC that I used to visit got shut down and now what you find out there is a bunch of Chinese AAMPS that tend to move around a lot and have varying levels of quality. One of the more reliable places has been discussed recently and it's the one in Centreville with Chinese MILFS Nana, Wendy, etc.

If you want to try that one, check out those posts for more info. If you want to try another one, you should do a forum search for the keyword "crapshoot" for some discussion about how to raise your odds of having a good session.

Stay safe and happy hunting!

Lioil
02-21-16, 23:29
A phone number Google search brings up results you can follow to find multiple reviews on the oThER site for Victoria, Polina and probably others. Most of those reviews say pretty much the same thing which is that this place features Russian / Ukrainian girls who are hot looking but give a pretty lackluster massage and anything beyond the standard session gets expensive in a hurry.

Sorry you wasted your $ but you didn't need to TOFTT as the info is out there. It's also worth noting that it isn't a bad idea to go for the shorter session, in this case 100 for the hh, for your first visit. If things go well you can almost always extend without any problem and if the session is bad then at least you're not out as much money.Ah. I tried searching by the namea in the link and the lady on the phone never mentioned Victoria. Guess it is lesson learned. I thought russians would be on the less conservative side heh.

Member #6377
02-22-16, 10:52
Been trying to setup an appointment with her for a while now but I've got very little free time. You mentioned no entry anywhere but does that include rubbing on the outside or daty / dato w / out entry?


Finally took the time to visit there. She is extremely interested in making sure you have a good experience. When you arrive, she is welcoming at the door. She guides you in by telephone and I suspect sizes you up from the window to see if she will give you the final address. Opted for Gold. She takes you to a shower where she washes you up. She is in the shower with you and behaves as if she really enjoys it. Full roam. She cleans you up and takes you to the massage. The massage is intense to say the least. She slides all over you and works all areas. She sprays it on rather than slathers it on so there is no quite the inflatable tub sort of mess. You have access to full close ups. She gets right in the face, etc. There are no limits on playing except entry anywhere is prohibited. She is extremely good looking and cares a great deal about your satisfaction. There is no indifference. Afterwards, you can shower off. I would repeat because there are few who seem to care as much as she does.

Angular
02-22-16, 12:16
So, I've been to Cosmos and River (or maybe it was Happy River, are they the same? I'm so confused) in Centreville several times, but it's been several months (maybe even a year) since my last visit to either.

At River, I usually see the same woman, I thought her name was Mia, but it might be Yumi. She's very pleasant and the massage is great complete with back walking, no table shower available there though. Limited to no roaming but a very nice standard NOVA. No harassment about the tip either. Standard rates, . 6 HH /. 8 HR + . 4 tip.

I had started going to Cosmos mainly because I like a good table shower and there is definitely one to be had here with plenty of teasing and a thorough wash. I've seen June and Jenny. They are both pretty good, offering good massages with nova endings, but Jenny definitely shows more enthusiasm. There's also a bit more on offer here, an unrestricted look at the goods, some nursing and rubbing of the kitty. Only issue is and the reason I don't go there more often, is the pressure for tips. They always seem to balk at the standard. 4 and even up to. 6 they still try to push for more. I don't mind paying more for some of the extras, but within reason. Also, when I'm just looking for a good massage and a standard ending, then I don't want to deal with the negotiations.

Still, I'm wanting a massage and they are pretty good so I'll probably visit again soon. Maybe today, unless someone has some alternative recommendations for a good massage and less haggling. PM me if you do.

Serpico99
02-22-16, 16:23
They always seem to balk at the standard. 4 and even up to. 6 they still try to push for more. I don't mind paying more for some of the extras, but within reason. Also, when I'm just looking for a good massage and a standard ending, then I don't want to deal with the negotiations.

Yeah, most of the Korean AMPs that I have visited within the last few years are pushing for bare minimum 60 tip for rushed standard noVA service. Eff that! This probably started around 2011. Before that, the same places I visited were generally happy with the 40 tip for standard noVA. That's why I gravitated to the Chinese AMPs mostly now.

BossMbs
02-22-16, 20:48
Ad link: http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/herndon-703-796-1717-6-minutes-from-dulles-airport-kind-new-asian-staff/19815842.

Tried today in Herndon, near a car wash, and behind a tennis shop. I could barely 'see' the door. An old lady answered the door. There was only one masseuse (her). She answered the door and said this place is massage only. Horrible massage and However, she had a great sense of humor and made me chuckle several times.

Over all it was a horrible experience. Damage was 60+20.

Amp Bum
02-22-16, 23:31
Decided to try the special that the forever place was offering. MMS provided the TS, and provider was a 40+ K-speaking see-gal. The massage was ok but I wouldn't recommend the backwalking. The enhanced see-cups came out to play at the end. On my way out, I saw the backside of the other provider which looked more promising. In and out in 1 hour: . 6 + . 4. Anyone know where Connie went?

Kraven Morehed
02-23-16, 15:43
The FCCC that I used to visit got shut down and now what you find out there is a bunch of Chinese AAMPS that tend to move around a lot and have varying levels of quality. One of the more reliable places has been discussed recently and it's the one in Centreville with Chinese MILFS Nana, Wendy, etc.

If you want to try that one, check out those posts for more info. If you want to try another one, you should do a forum search for the keyword "crapshoot" for some discussion about how to raise your odds of having a good session.

Stay safe and happy hunting!Yeah, I'll check out the centreville spot and try one of those names. Report cumming soon.

Mayhem101
02-23-16, 17:39
Ad link: http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/herndon-703-796-1717-6-minutes-from-dulles-airport-kind-new-asian-staff/19815842.

Tried today in Herndon, near a car wash, and behind a tennis shop. I could barely 'see' the door. An old lady answered the door. There was only one masseuse (her). She answered the door and said this place is massage only. Horrible massage and However, she had a great sense of humor and made me chuckle several times.

Over all it was a horrible experience. Damage was 60+20.You get an old lady who says massage only. Why ever walk through the door? Why not just walk away? You would have saved 80.

Tmans59
02-23-16, 20:44
Saw KK recently, plump asian provided an excellent and thorough thai massage. Offering a Brazilian wax and massage for $. 6, tipped. 4 for nice handy work.

To view this posting, please click the link below:

http://dc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/land-of-smiles-kk-and-lina/8054456

Happy Guy 2
02-24-16, 02:48
Ad link: http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/herndon-703-796-1717-6-minutes-from-dulles-airport-kind-new-asian-staff/19815842.

Tried today in Herndon, near a car wash, and behind a tennis shop. I could barely 'see' the door. An old lady answered the door. There was only one masseuse (her). She answered the door and said this place is massage only. Horrible massage and However, she had a great sense of humor and made me chuckle several times.

Over all it was a horrible experience. Damage was 60+20.Very Strange. Visited there several times a few months ago and had very pleasant experiences. I agree. Leave if looks not to be a fun time. Mine time, massage and fun was great and friendly there. Late December.

Good luck. Wait, we make our own luck!

Happy Guy 2
02-24-16, 03:13
Finally took the time to visit there. She is extremely interested in making sure you have a good experience. When you arrive, she is welcoming at the door. She guides you in by telephone and I suspect sizes you up from the window to see if she will give you the final address. Opted for Gold. She takes you to a shower where she washes you up. She is in the shower with you and behaves as if she really enjoys it. Full roam. She cleans you up and takes you to the massage. The massage is intense to say the least. She slides all over you and works all areas. She sprays it on rather than slathers it on so there is no quite the inflatable tub sort of mess. You have access to full close ups. She gets right in the face, etc. There are no limits on playing except entry anywhere is prohibited. She is extremely good looking and cares a great deal about your satisfaction. There is no indifference. Afterwards, you can shower off. I would repeat because there are few who seem to care as much as she does.Glad she is still up in quality. Historically a good nuru experience as you describe. She likes to please and make you happy but no FS. Just clean fun time. All as advertised from what I know. Sweet person.

Happy Guy 2.

Bunker Buster
02-24-16, 04:51
Tried today in Herndon, near a car washWas anyone participating on the large canine discussion board back in its heyday of the early 2000's? There was this operation in Maryland that was also known as 50/15. For $50, you got a FS run-through, so someone, maybe "2 Big4 u" (anyone remember him?) nicknamed it the car wash. For a while, they were actually staying in a hotel near College Park across the street from a car wash, so guys could tell their wives they were "going to the car wash," and they'd (almost) be telling the truth. LOL.

I went by a different handle back then, and I'm wondering if anyone else is still around from back then. I'd guess that more than a few people here are on their 2nd or 3rd handle in the hobby.

Fun Sex
02-24-16, 12:06
Was anyone participating on the large canine discussion board back in its heyday of the early 2000's? There was this operation in Maryland that was also known as 50/15. For $50, you got a FS run-through, so someone, maybe "2 Big4 u" (anyone remember him?) nicknamed it the car wash. For a while, they were actually staying in a hotel near College Park across the street from a car wash, so guys could tell their wives they were "going to the car wash," and they'd (almost) be telling the truth. LOL.

I went by a different handle back then, and I'm wondering if anyone else is still around from back then. I'd guess that more than a few people here are on their 2nd or 3rd handle in the hobby.I started using "hobby forums" in the early 2000's. I have been using exactly the same handle for all forums. However, this is the first time I hear about this type of events. It's very interesting. LOL.

Fun Sex
02-24-16, 12:17
Saw KK recently, plump asian provided an excellent and thorough thai massage. Offering a Brazilian wax and massage for $. 6, tipped. 4 for nice handy work.

To view this posting, please click the link below:

http://dc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/land-of-smiles-kk-and-lina/8054456Yes, KK is awesome. I have been seeing her and her girls since 2007. I always get good service from them.

HardToTame
02-24-16, 13:44
Hi All,

Just going to give a heads up on Potomac rt1 spa. I was there about a a week ago for a massage. Drawed the therapist lala or sasa that is a very small women long black hair. Paid for the hour massage, got undress and on table, she came in and ask what type I would like so I told her hard. She starts on the shoulders then about 10 minutes she said she was tired. Did not say anything and she kept going for 10 more minutes then said she was tired again. She told me to flip over which I did, and ask what was I looking for. Told her oral, she bartered for. 08 $ made me get up and pay in advance. She then pulled out a piece of plastic wrap and started a HJ to get things going then put the wrap on and started going down, which lasted 2 minutes if that. She then said she was tired and not feeling good. And started with HJ, I told her what I paid for and she went back for 30 seconds and started HJ again and state she was tired. So she was working the HJ for 2 minutes and said for me to finish on my own. She eventually finished the job. So now I have 1/2 hour of massage left. She rub my feet for a minute and said she was done. The massage was a 2 rating out of 10. She then said her stomach hurt and she was done. I got dressed and ask for the manager (mms) she said she left and was pushing me out the door. So giving fair warning not to go there.

HardToTame
02-24-16, 14:26
Hi All,

Just going to give a heads up on Potomac rt1 spa. I was there about a a week ago for a massage. Drawed the therapist lala or sasa that is a very small women long black hair. Paid for the hour massage, got undress and on table, she came in and ask what type I would like so I told her hard. She starts on the shoulders then about 10 minutes she said she was tired. Did not say anything and she kept going for 10 more minutes then said she was tired again. She told me to flip over which I did, and ask what was I looking for. Told her oral, she bartered for. 08 $ made me get up and pay in advance. She then pulled out a piece of plastic wrap and started a HJ to get things going then put the wrap on and started going down, which lasted 2 minutes if that. She then said she was tired and not feeling good. And started with HJ, I told her what I paid for and she went back for 30 seconds and started HJ again and state she was tired. So she was working the HJ for 2 minutes and said for me to finish on my own. She eventually finished the job. So now I have 1/2 hour of massage left. She rub my feet for a minute and said she was done. The massage was a 2 rating out of 10. She then said her stomach hurt and she was done. I got dressed and ask for the manager (mms) she said she left and was pushing me out the door. So giving fair warning not to go there.

Mustang946
02-24-16, 21:15
Was anyone participating on the large canine discussion board back in its heyday of the early 2000's? There was this operation in Maryland that was also known as 50/15. For $50, you got a FS run-through, so someone, maybe "2 Big4 u" (anyone remember him?) nicknamed it the car wash. For a while, they were actually staying in a hotel near College Park across the street from a car wash, so guys could tell their wives they were "going to the car wash," and they'd (almost) be telling the truth. LOL.

I went by a different handle back then, and I'm wondering if anyone else is still around from back then. I'd guess that more than a few people here are on their 2nd or 3rd handle in the hobby.I remember a lot of discussion on the car wash but it was too far away for me to visit. I do have fond memories of HWC and American Spa around that time which were convenient to me.

NyHornet
02-24-16, 23:22
Yes, KK is awesome. I have been seeing her and her girls since 2007. I always get good service from them.I also have known KK for many years and she has always requested not to be reviewed on the internet I've always respected that request and think others should as well. With that said, nothing wrong with recommending her as an excellent massage therapist and leave it at that.

Laura Rager
02-25-16, 10:16
You mentioned no entry anywhere but does that include rubbing on the outside or daty / dato w / out entry?You are free to touch anywhere outside. You are not allow to touch anywhere inside.

Laura Rager
02-25-16, 10:17
Hi All,

Just going to give a heads up on Potomac rt1 spa.What is "Potomac Rt 1 Spa?" Heath Center Alexa?

JmSuttr
02-25-16, 15:36
What is "Potomac Rt 1 Spa?" Heath Center Alexa?http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/special-60-hr-12hr-40-excellent-choice/19982929

JmSuttr
02-25-16, 21:32
Hi All,

Just going to give a heads up on Potomac rt1 spa. I was there about a a week ago for a massage. Drawed the therapist lala or sasa that is a very small women long black hair. Paid for the hour massage, got undress and on table, she came in and ask what type I would like so I told her hard. She starts on the shoulders then about 10 minutes she said she was tired. Did not say anything and she kept going for 10 more minutes then said she was tired again. She told me to flip over which I did, and ask what was I looking for. Told her oral, she bartered for. 08 $ made me get up and pay in advance. She then pulled out a piece of plastic wrap and started a HJ to get things going then put the wrap on and started going down, which lasted 2 minutes if that. She then said she was tired and not feeling good. And started with HJ, I told her what I paid for and she went back for 30 seconds and started HJ again and state she was tired. So she was working the HJ for 2 minutes and said for me to finish on my own. She eventually finished the job. So now I have 1/2 hour of massage left. She rub my feet for a minute and said she was done. The massage was a 2 rating out of 10. She then said her stomach hurt and she was done. I got dressed and ask for the manager (mms) she said she left and was pushing me out the door. So giving fair warning not to go there.It wasn't clear from your post whether this was your first visit to the spa or whether you'd been there before and just happened to draw a bad therapist on a repeat visit.

If it was your first time at the spa and you didn't have any intel before going in, one strategy is to book the half hour so you have less $ at risk if things go bad. Unless they're busy, you can usually extend without a problem if the therapist is a good one.

Also, you've got to listen to your hobby-sense in situations like these. Just like any first impression can be positive or negative, that is amplified when it comes to providers. The fact that she started complaining after 10 minutes while giving you a lame massage was a giant red flag. If she had a bad attitude during that part of the session it was highly unlikely the sensual part was going to be any better. By listening to your hobby-sense you would have at least saved the $80 you spent on that horrible sounding plastic wrap BJ. Wow, I wonder if she uses a fresh piece of wrap every time? Maybe you got some tuna sandwich residue from her lunch!

Of course there are a lot of AMP girls who don't give a great massage but then go on to perform well with the extras. But it's the combo of lame massage and crappy attitude that was the killer. Probably best to cut your losses and just walk out. At least that wastes as little of your time as possible.

But thanks for TOFTT and reporting the experience.

RayWood1999
02-27-16, 20:10
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-franconia-wellness/19900612

Been here three times. New to the hobby.

First time, I got a massage from Coco late 20's, shoulder-length black hair, Korean. Very pretty, very good English. MMS got $. 60 for half an hour. Very good deep massage. She asked if it was hard enough and I said it could be harder, so she walked on my back.

Very god job. Did amazing work with her toes massaging my hands. Flip and finish was fine, she seemed a bit put out. Left a tip of $. 40 on the table before we began.

Second time I drew a Korean, early 40's, mid-back black hair. Slim. Also great job on massage. Again, half an hour, 60+60. I tipped more this time because I wanted to see what the difference might be. Didn't get much else. She was saying how cold it was that day and in the room.

She even put a blanket over me where she wasn't massaging.

Third time, called for an hour long appt. On the same day. Asked for Coco, MMS said fine. I get there and I get the same masseuse as last time. She told me Coco didn't work there anymore. Didn't matter. Got a TS this time and it was worth it.

Full wash with lots of rinsing and roaming. No rush as it was the middle of the day, 2 pm I think. Massage was great. She vaguely remembered me and that I liked my massage very hard, so she walked on my back. I really enjoy it. They have bars to facilitate balance for.

The masseuse. ST was next and it was really good. Evidently she was really cold last time. She straddled me and ran her hair down my back. It was amazing. Flip time. She lightly sucked my nipples for a second, which was fine but I didn't ask. She ran her hair over my buddy and.

There was more ST. Finish was great. 80+60 this time. I left the tip on the table before we started. She asked "No internet review" three times, so I won't give her name.

Should I be leaving the tip before the massage or wait until later? I researched some and it seemed like 60 was the local going rate.

Krzyazn128
02-28-16, 01:59
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-franconia-wellness/19900612

Been here three times. New to the hobby.

First time, I got a massage from Coco late 20's, shoulder-length black hair, Korean. Very pretty, very good English. MMS got $. 60 for half an hour. Very good deep massage. She asked if it was hard enough and I said it could be harder, so she walked on my back.

Very god job. Did amazing work with her toes massaging my hands. Flip and finish was fine, she seemed a bit put out. Left a tip of $. 40 on the table before we began.

Second time I drew a Korean, early 40's, mid-back black hair. Slim. Also great job on massage. Again, half an hour, 60+60. I tipped more this time because I wanted to see what the difference might be. Didn't get much else. She was saying how cold it was that day and in the room.

She even put a blanket over me where she wasn't massaging.

Third time, called for an hour long appt. On the same day. Asked for Coco, MMS said fine. I get there and I get the same masseuse as last time. She told me Coco didn't work there anymore. Didn't matter. Got a TS this time and it was worth it.

Full wash with lots of rinsing and roaming. No rush as it was the middle of the day, 2 pm I think. Massage was great. She vaguely remembered me and that I liked my massage very hard, so she walked on my back. I really enjoy it. They have bars to facilitate balance for.

The masseuse. ST was next and it was really good. Evidently she was really cold last time. She straddled me and ran her hair down my back. It was amazing. Flip time. She lightly sucked my nipples for a second, which was fine but I didn't ask. She ran her hair over my buddy and.

There was more ST. Finish was great. 80+60 this time. I left the tip on the table before we started. She asked "No internet review" three times, so I won't give her name.

Should I be leaving the tip before the massage or wait until later? I researched some and it seemed like 60 was the local going rate.40 is standard NOVA finish. I give 60 if they go above and beyond. Hagglers I give 40 and not a penny more.

JmSuttr
02-28-16, 13:51
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-franconia-wellness/19900612

Been here three times. New to the hobby.

First time, I got a massage from Coco late 20's, shoulder-length black hair, Korean. Very pretty, very good English. MMS got $. 60 for half an hour. Very good deep massage. She asked if it was hard enough and I said it could be harder, so she walked on my back.

Very god job. Did amazing work with her toes massaging my hands. Flip and finish was fine, she seemed a bit put out. Left a tip of $. 40 on the table before we began.

Second time I drew a Korean, early 40's, mid-back black hair. Slim. Also great job on massage. Again, half an hour, 60+60. I tipped more this time because I wanted to see what the difference might be. Didn't get much else. She was saying how cold it was that day and in the room.

She even put a blanket over me where she wasn't massaging.

Third time, called for an hour long appt. On the same day. Asked for Coco, MMS said fine. I get there and I get the same masseuse as last time. She told me Coco didn't work there anymore. Didn't matter. Got a TS this time and it was worth it.

Full wash with lots of rinsing and roaming. No rush as it was the middle of the day, 2 pm I think. Massage was great. She vaguely remembered me and that I liked my massage very hard, so she walked on my back. I really enjoy it. They have bars to facilitate balance for.

The masseuse. ST was next and it was really good. Evidently she was really cold last time. She straddled me and ran her hair down my back. It was amazing. Flip time. She lightly sucked my nipples for a second, which was fine but I didn't ask. She ran her hair over my buddy and.

There was more ST. Finish was great. 80+60 this time. I left the tip on the table before we started. She asked "No internet review" three times, so I won't give her name.

Should I be leaving the tip before the massage or wait until later? I researched some and it seemed like 60 was the local going rate.IMHO, tipping should take place after the session. If you tip before, there's a possibility the girl will think the amount is not enough which means she will start haggling and, even if you win the negotiation, the level of service is likely to suffer. The other possibility is that the girl thinks the amount is fine, or even generous, but once the $ has changed hands there's no real incentive to provide great service. If you're lucky and you have a good AMP girl who wants to please and hopefully persuade you to come back as a repeat client, then you'll still have a good session. But if the roll of the dice has given you an average AMP girl who just wants to pocket the cash quickly and move on to the next client, then you're pretty much out of luck. One other point is that, for the better AMP providers, you generally won't have a problem tipping after unless you're a cheapskate.

If a girl asks me to tip before and we start to get into a negotiation process I usually tell her that I'm a good client and I will take good care of her because I would like to see her again. If that's not good enough for her then most of the time I will get up from the table and start to get dressed. When she protests (as she will always do since she works for tips) I explain that arguing about $ gives me stress and I don't enjoy it. Sometimes the girl will give in and ask me to stay, in which case I've almost always gotten a better than average session. Sometimes the girl will cop an attitude with me, like she's somehow doing me a favor, in which case I'll walk out without leaving any tip at all. Losing whatever the house fee was (usually only for a hh if it's my first visit to a place) is almost always better than what I would have lost by playing her game.

FWIW, the tipping schedule I follow is 40 for a std clothed HJ, 60 for substantial roaming, 80+ for BBBJ+ and if the girl is someone I would really like to see again I usually leave a little bit extra to help her remember me as a good client.

A couple of other observations: if you call and ask for a specific girl, MMS will almost always tell you she is working. Once they get you in the door they figure you'll probably stay and they're usually right about that. About your second visit, leaving more $ to see if it would make a difference would only make sense if you were seeing the same provider as before. Since there can be big variations between girls at the same AMP, a tip amount that one girl thinks is ok might be seen as cheap by another. But either way it's not an apples to apples comparison since you're dealing with a different provider.

The bottom line, IMHO, is to RTFF to inform yourself on the best AMPs out there and stick to the women who provide good service without upsell and hard negotiating tactics. Then, once you've found some good ones, take the time to develop those into ATFs and I think you'll find that a better strategy than spending your valuable time and hard-earned $ trying out a bunch of new places. And whenever you find a great one, make sure to get her private digits so you can get in touch with her if she moves to another place.

Fun Sex
02-28-16, 19:46
I also have known KK for many years and she has always requested not to be reviewed on the internet I've always respected that request and think others should as well. With that said, nothing wrong with recommending her as an excellent massage therapist and leave it at that.Yes, I am talking about her excellent massage therapist.

Cracksmoak
02-28-16, 20:42
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/russian-ladies-mila-alena-dasha-nuru-body-work-fetish-4-hand/21875040

Never been to Russian parlor so gave it a try. Saw Victoria. She is pretty but looked all business. No smile. Ask 1. 5 for H (100 HHR) and reminded that it is not FS. Massage was OK- no pressure just felt like rubbing the lotion on. Tried to small talk but she answered questions with negatives like "what do you like to do?" - "Nothing. ". After flip some more massage and put lotion on me and just started the finish. Asked about extras but too pricey. No touching and. 8 for nude I said no thanks. Total 1. 5 damage which really adds up to your typical. 6-8 + . 6-8 tip. BTW I paid 160 since she didn't have change. I say pass.I've been using the Russian parlor for a couple years. Massage and HJ are included in price. I used to see Anna, and tall, thin Ukrainian girl. Right now the 4-hand for 1. 8 is awesome. I tried Victoria and Mila, and then Mila and Alena. Its not FS but read the ad. You can get some great extras but those are negotiated up front. No tipping.

Angular
02-28-16, 22:08
So, I actually ended up making it back here. I went to get an hour but it was close to closing time so I was only able to get 30 minutes for. 6. Drew Sara, new one here for me and so I was worried how things might go. She asked if I had been there before, I told her yes and gave up the other provider's names. Was ushered into a room and paid the house fee.

Sara isn't as youthful looking as Jenny, but she was still easy on the eyes and had a nice rack that I was hoping to see more of. No TS with the HH session so got right to the massage. I've mentioned that the massages at this place are generally very nice, and this time was probably one of the best I've gotten. She asked if I wanted hard or medium, I said hard and she obliged. It was fantastic and exactly what I was looking for since my neck and shoulders were aching.

She had been teasing a bit throughout the massage but then started the soft touch. Very nice and drawn out soft touch. Then came the flip and out came those headlights I'd been waiting for. All natural see's from I could tell. The finish was one of the best I've had even if it was basic nova but her technique was flawless.

I've complained before about the haggling for tips over here. At the end I handed her. 4 for tip and she coyly asked for more. Given her excellent performance I handed her another. 2 for a total. 60 + . 60 which is what I expected to be out anyway for an hour. I was pleased and will definitely have to visit for a full hour.

JmSuttr, I was trying to figure out where on your scale the tip would fit in for this situation. Did I pay out too much?

Angular
02-28-16, 22:12
So, I actually ended up making it back here. I went to get an hour but it was close to closing time so I was only able to get 30 minutes for. 6. Drew Sara, new one here for me and so I was worried how things might go. She asked if I had been there before, I told her yes and gave up the other provider's names. Was ushered into a room and paid the house fee.

Sara isn't as youthful looking as Jenny, but she was still easy on the eyes and had a nice rack that I was hoping to see more of. No TS with the HH session so got right to the massage. I've mentioned that the massages at this place are generally very nice, and this time was probably one of the best I've gotten. She asked if I wanted hard or medium, I said hard and she obliged. It was fantastic and exactly what I was looking for since my neck and shoulders were aching.

She had been teasing a bit throughout the massage but then started the soft touch. Very nice and drawn out soft touch. Then came the flip and out came those headlights I'd been waiting for. All natural see's from what I could tell. The finish was one of the best I've had even if it was basic nova but her technique was flawless.

I've complained before about the haggling for tips over here. At the end I handed her. 4 for tip and she coyly asked for more. Given her excellent performance I handed her another. 2 for a total. 60 + . 60 which is what I expected to be out anyway for an hour. I was pleased and will definitely have to visit for a full hour.

JmSuttr, I was trying to figure out where on your scale the tip would fit in for this situation. Did I pay out too much?

JmSuttr
02-29-16, 00:19
So, I actually ended up making it back here. I went to get an hour but it was close to closing time so I was only able to get 30 minutes for. 6. Drew Sara, new one here for me and so I was worried how things might go. She asked if I had been there before, I told her yes and gave up the other provider's names. Was ushered into a room and paid the house fee.

Sara isn't as youthful looking as Jenny, but she was still easy on the eyes and had a nice rack that I was hoping to see more of. No TS with the HH session so got right to the massage. I've mentioned that the massages at this place are generally very nice, and this time was probably one of the best I've gotten. She asked if I wanted hard or medium, I said hard and she obliged. It was fantastic and exactly what I was looking for since my neck and shoulders were aching.

She had been teasing a bit throughout the massage but then started the soft touch. Very nice and drawn out soft touch. Then came the flip and out came those headlights I'd been waiting for. All natural see's from what I could tell. The finish was one of the best I've had even if it was basic nova but her technique was flawless.

I've complained before about the haggling for tips over here. At the end I handed her. 4 for tip and she coyly asked for more. Given her excellent performance I handed her another. 2 for a total. 60 + . 60 which is what I expected to be out anyway for an hour. I was pleased and will definitely have to visit for a full hour.

JmSuttr, I was trying to figure out where on your scale the tip would fit in for this situation. Did I pay out too much?Headlights coming out to shine in the dark are absolutely worthy of a $60 tip, IMHO, especially when combined with a good massage and excellent finish. That and the fact that she's a provider you'd like to see again (and have as good or even better session) is also a solid reason to tip that amount.

From your report, I'd say your tip is very likely to pay nice dividends in the future. There are so many average and below average AMP girls out there so, when you find a good one, it's definitely worthwhile to express your appreciation.

JmSuttr
02-29-16, 00:32
I've been using the Russian parlor for a couple years. Massage and HJ are included in price. I used to see Anna, and tall, thin Ukrainian girl. Right now the 4-hand for 1. 8 is awesome. I tried Victoria and Mila, and then Mila and Alena. Its not FS but read the ad. You can get some great extras but those are negotiated up front. No tipping.Of the four you named, Victoria, Mila, Anna and Alena, which are your faves and which would you recommend (for massage quality and menu options)? Also, can you give us some idea on what extras are on the menu and how they're priced?

I'm also curious about how you rate the four hand experience compared to seeing each of the girls by themselves?

PhillipLee
02-29-16, 06:29
Of the four you named, Victoria, Mila, Anna and Alena, which are your faves and which would you recommend (for massage quality and menu options)? Also, can you give us some idea on what extras are on the menu and how they're priced?

I'm also curious about how you rate the four hand experience compared to seeing each of the girls by themselves?Anna no longer works I believe. Victoria is not bad looking but her attitude is horrible. Alena looks good enough and her attitude is good. She's accommodating. I have yet to see MILA. I'd like to know info on her as well.

Ted Williams
03-01-16, 15:30
I was in Chantilly and decided that I would have a Best massage. I was surprised today because I drew a young provider named BB. She is the youngest one I ever seen and has to be in her 30's. I thought this would either be great or it was going to be bad. Well, it started off like the best TS I have ever had. She knows exactly how to tease you to think the session will be fantastic. I requested medium and she obliged and did some teasing to make me think it would be great yet to come on the flip. The bad part started on the flip. Yes, negotiations (wanted 5 Jacksons for a handshake!) I was like sure it is, but I wasn't born yesterday. So there ended the session and I figured since she was so young she would want a premium anyway. There was no roaming at all or any chance for me to see the goods, so I have no idea to describe them to you. I said no thanks and went on my way still stressed out. Maybe you won't do the same now.

Good Day.

Roamin Roman
03-01-16, 16:58
I was in Chantilly and decided that I would have a Best massage. I was surprised today because I drew a young provider named BB. She is the youngest one I ever seen and has to be in her 30's. I thought this would either be great or it was going to be bad. Well, it started off like the best TS I have ever had. She knows exactly how to tease you to think the session will be fantastic. I requested medium and she obliged and did some teasing to make me think it would be great yet to come on the flip. The bad part started on the flip. Yes, negotiations (wanted 5 Jacksons for a handshake!) I was like sure it is, but I wasn't born yesterday. So there ended the session and I figured since she was so young she would want a premium anyway. There was no roaming at all or any chance for me to see the goods, so I have no idea to describe them to you. I said no thanks and went on my way still stressed out. Maybe you won't do the same now.Declining to pay such an exorbitant tip, and opting instead to say "No thanks" and walk out, is the best policy. Not only do you save some funds for another day, you make it known that you won't be played for a sucker. After a few such times like this (assuming enough other mongers likewise decline such a request), the therapist will either gain an understanding of market rates or she will discover that the first 30 minutes of the session were for naught.

Basically, since the therapist gets little to no portion of the House Fee, the first part of the massage session is a "loss leader" for her. So, until the second part of the massage session, she is working for free (or a very low rate). She makes most of her money as a result of the second part of the session. But, if she upsells, performs poorly, or cops a crappy attitude, she won't get her tip.

Now, walking out still doesn't get you your House Fee back, but you have cut your losses to a minimum and saved what otherwise would've been the tip for another day. The only thing left to do after that is to report the therapist's and the AMP's name here on the USASG so your fellow mongers can also avoid the same situation at that location. Then, your only task is to find a place where you can get some decent stress relief. But, again, your fellow mongers can help out with that. In fact, check your Inbox.

Roman.

Roger1286
03-02-16, 20:26
Back in January I asked the board for suggestions for an upcoming trip I had planned for later in the month. I want to thank: MrSunnyHills, Bunker Buster, Roamin Roman, Jackbenimble17, JimSuttr for their helpful suggestions. I had been given hockey tickets for 2 Capitals games, one on Friday night and the other on Sunday. Well as luck would have it, they were the 2 games that were cancelled because of the blizzard. Of course they were not cancelled until I had driven up that Friday morning, and even with all the great suggestions at my option, the blizzard nixed most of them. Yet another oft mentioned option had posted availability that morning and I went to see Nurse JJ. I guess she has had my attention for a while and I figured it was fate that she was available. She is as pictured, she is pleasant. IMO she has no massage skills, but she does offer a dynamite oral upgrade. I enjoyed! But somehow was a bit disappointed. I guess there was not that mental chemistry that I had hoped for. Been there done that and will not repeat. For Part 2 head to the Backpage thread.

Telcova
03-03-16, 14:45
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/special-60-hr-12hr-40-excellent-choice/19982929I was there last week, used to FS back in the day. I did 40 for the half and left 40 for her. She seemed ok with it and smilingly asked me to come back.

Butters Stotch
03-04-16, 23:11
New guy post. Please be patient.

Greeted and led back to the room by older lady, late 40's early 50's, but still attractive. Took the hour for. 6 and received standard massage (no TS) mostly covered / draped as a standard massage, and was pretty good. No walk on back but did thing where she got on table and knee'd her way up from rear to front. Did another trick getting between legs and rubbed up from thighs to neck (that was actually pretty excellent). Finished off back with a hot towel wipe off. At this point I didn't think it was going anywhere, ie no opportunities for roaming, etc (their tables are so wide that arms don't do the normal drape over). No problem, massage was good and was relaxing anyway.

On the flip she asked if I needed "help" and looked down there. I said yes, she asked if I would take care of her. What was I going to say at that point? She started the magic fingers thing for a minute or so then got some lotion. She sat down beside me with her back to me and started bending over there, performing soft caresses. I couldn't help but look since I wasn't sure if she was going to go the whole way, but I guess she was just blowing air on it (couldn't tell, couldn't feel it, but why else would she be down there? Allowed limited OTC at this point but access to any of the good areas were quite limited due to her position (maybe that was planned? Any way, things took their normal course and she cleaned me up nicely. Still time left on the clock so she continued the frontal massage. All done and that was it.

Left a tip of. 4 and she seemed happy with that. Have had problems in the past with Smile and Far East asking for. 6. I don't know, maybe that's the standard now for an hour? You guys would probably know better than I, I'm a bit new to this.

MrSunnyHills
03-05-16, 07:04
New guy post. Please be patient.

Greeted and led back to the room by older lady, late 40's early 50's, but still attractive. Took the hour for. 6 and received standard massage (no TS) mostly covered / draped as a standard massage, and was pretty good. No walk on back but did thing where she got on table and knee'd her way up from rear to front. Did another trick getting between legs and rubbed up from thighs to neck (that was actually pretty excellent). Finished off back with a hot towel wipe off. At this point I didn't think it was going anywhere, ie no opportunities for roaming, etc (their tables are so wide that arms don't do the normal drape over). No problem, massage was good and was relaxing anyway.

On the flip she asked if I needed "help" and looked down there. I said yes, she asked if I would take care of her. What was I going to say at that point? She started the magic fingers thing for a minute or so then got some lotion. She sat down beside me with her back to me and started bending over there, performing soft caresses. I couldn't help but look since I wasn't sure if she was going to go the whole way, but I guess she was just blowing air on it (couldn't tell, couldn't feel it, but why else would she be down there? Allowed limited OTC at this point but access to any of the good areas were quite limited due to her position (maybe that was planned? Any way, things took their normal course and she cleaned me up nicely. Still time left on the clock so she continued the frontal massage. All done and that was it.

Left a tip of. 4 and she seemed happy with that. Have had problems in the past with Smile and Far East asking for. 6. I don't know, maybe that's the standard now for an hour? You guys would probably know better than I, I'm a bit new to this.One question. Can't see any place called Bowery. Do you have a link or phone number?

JmSuttr
03-05-16, 07:51
One question. Can't see any place called Bowery. Do you have a link or phone number?http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/you-asked-for-it-and-we-listened-bowery-wellness-spa/20588976

The name choice is amusing since the Bowery was NYC's skid row until it was cleaned up and gentrified. It's in Manhattan just north of Chinatown so I assume the owner has NY connections.

Jay Nova
03-05-16, 23:40
Been to Oasis / Dumfries. Standard NOVA, . 60-. 40. Anyone know if it is worth it above the older woman who seems to always greet?

Jay Nova
03-06-16, 09:17
Anyone been by Oasis lately? I see she raised her prices back up to. 8 for the hour. Did she bring any new talent in or is she just trying to stay afloat? I quit going about a year ago. The massage was getting more sub-par each time and the finish was never that good.Back to 60/40. And same same.

Jay Nova
03-06-16, 09:20
If you are going down Telegraph road, it's just past IKEA on the right side of the street. Not facing the street, but in a small industrial park looking lot (we turned around there and that's how we came across it). It is called XY massage and had a neon Open sign.

It was 60 for an hour, (full hour given) added a "body shampoo" for extra 20. This was not a table shower, it was soap and washcloth on the massage table. I would pass on that if I go again. No table shower was offered, I thought that was what was meant when she asked if I wanted body shampoo. Her English was not too understandable. But good massage and HE.Book ahead, they seem busy for walk-ins so I haven't had a chance. Any new updates? Ladies seemed nice, at door she was older but friendly, one that peeked around the corner was younger and looked nice.

OldPilot71
03-07-16, 11:55
Been to Oasis / Dumfries. Standard NOVA, . 60-. 40. Anyone know if it is worth it above the older woman who seems to always greet?I went quite a few times for a while hoping things would improve. I only saw one other provider other than Mink (the old lady). The other woman (don't remember her name at this point) gave an ok massage and a simply ok HJ finish. I tipped the normal 40 and she got kind of pissed off and said 'next time bring more'. That was the last time I went.

Bossanova86
03-07-16, 22:13
Lucy in Cville.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage-by-lucy/21230665

Apparently visits from Seattle and stays at her friends apartment in Cville. Massage was decent and it was decent setup that rivaled that of Nikki in Vienna and Nalee in Cville (as well.) She's a talker and probably in her late 30's early 40's. She's definitely Thai or at the very least from Isan. A lot of upsell towards the end, but the fact that she opened the conversation to more possibilities was good with out it coming off as awkward. However the menu was incredibly expensive. Maybe if I was to just ask for what was on the menu and skip the massage all together would have been a lot better. That being said, I don't know if I would repeat. She's decent one timer at the very least, but I've had better and cheaper.

MrSunnyHills
03-07-16, 22:38
I don't know what planet I was on when I searched and saw that very ad show up but then saw all the BWC's in the pictures looking right past the big BOWERY in Bold. Sorry.


http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/you-asked-for-it-and-we-listened-bowery-wellness-spa/20588976

The name choice is amusing since the Bowery was NYC's skid row until it was cleaned up and gentrified. It's in Manhattan just north of Chinatown so I assume the owner has NY connections.

Roamin Roman
03-08-16, 06:37
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/you-asked-for-it-and-we-listened-bowery-wellness-spa/20588976

The name choice is amusing since the Bowery was NYC's skid row until it was cleaned up and gentrified. It's in Manhattan just north of Chinatown so I assume the owner has NY connections.Most likely, the owner does have connections to that area. A lot of the KAMP girls come from Flushing, NY, which is right next to where The Bowery used to be. (It's actually still there, but in many ways a mere shadow of what it used to be. Google has a lot of old images of The Bowery. Mainly tenement houses, sweat shops, local stores, and "El" trains. There were probably a few "cat houses" in The Bowery, as well, and the owner may be using the name in humorous irony. Who knows?

Someone New
03-08-16, 09:46
I have been lurking for a while and decided to try out the hobby. While traveling to Ft. Lauderdale, I recently had my first massage parlor experience.

Older, not terribly attractive lady, and a bit of a language barrier, but was a pleasant experience and I left "happy. " . 6/. 4.

It looks like I will be in the Dulles area tomorrow with a bit of free time in the evening. Can anyone recommend a decent place in the area for my second try?

I am not looking for "extras" and would prefer no upsell pressure. From reading through this forum, it seems I am looking for the standard NOVA finish.

Looking around, it looks like the VA area is going to be closer to. 8/. 4.

HardToTame
03-08-16, 10:13
Has anyone been to this new location?

http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/granding-openwelcome-to-new-asian-massage/20992706

Mustang946
03-09-16, 09:35
Despite getting a flu shot in the fall, I came down with the flu and was out of action for about a week and then had no energy for another week. Finally last week I was able to get back in the saddle.

First stop late last week was at Soft Touch, which was closed for a while changing management. Same mamasan was there and she greeted me by name. My favorite (and others as well) is no longer there and apparently out of the business. Mamasan assigned Amy to me. She has been working there just a short time. Shoulder length hair and slender, she had above average massage skills. She did allow a lot of roaming both OTC and UTC. On the flip, I was greeted by upraised top and lowered shorts. Average NOVA finish. 80/60 due to total access.

Yesterday I was in Woodbridge and stopped in at ZY Massage near IKEA. My therapist was Lucy, a very attractive slender Chinese lady with shoulder length hair. No table shower but instead a table shampoo on the actual massage table is offered at a $20 up charge. I had just showered at home and declined. The massage table was narrower and shorter than other AMPs. A very good therapeutic massage followed with emphasis on neck and shoulders but all areas are addressed. No teasing before the flip that is common at most AMPs. A satisfactory NOVA finish followed by more treatment on lower legs. Throughout the session lotion was liberally applied followed by a hot towel treatment. OTC was allowed during the session. She was quiet during the session answering questions and asking if the pressure was okay. I got 60 full minutes of massage. $80/40 which she was okay with.

JazonArgos15
03-09-16, 12:15
Last week, when winter cold was still overwhelming, I returned to a warm venue near the NoVA ntxn of 395/495.

Some places require an appointment but Manager and Massage Tech Lily at ET greeted me nicely at the door (even though I was a "walk in" I was seen without delay). After determining I wanted an hour, she escorted me to the massage studio at the top of the stairs.

As was the case on my previous visit, everything was clean, linen was fresh, etc.

After paying standard house fee, we crossed the hall to the shower room. The TS here is simply excellent. Not rushed. She helped me stand (to be sure I did not slip on the floor), and after I was dry, walked me back to the massage studio.

An excellent deep-tissue massage followed. Lily is focused on the client, so be a gentleman and enjoy how relaxed you are when the session is complete (full hour requested and received). It is likely I will return in future.

My simple odyssey continues.

JazonArgos15.

Roamin Roman
03-09-16, 16:16
Has anyone been to this new location?

http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/granding-openwelcome-to-new-asian-massage/20992706Based on the address in the BP ad, it appears to be located in this professional office complex, which wouldn't be out of character for a low-profile AMP:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/2879+Duke+St,+Alexandria,+VA+22314/@38.8073706,-77.0798985,3a,75y,59.68h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLa7moqYsrWiL4paL51Z2DQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DLa7moqYsrWiL4paL51Z2DQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D53.107166%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x89b7b19ff1f93a55:0x6f4b92d3f0b0b2e2!2s2879+Duke+St,+Alexandria,+VA+22314!3b1!3m1!1s0x89b7b19ff1f93a55:0x6f4b92d3f0b0b2e2

However, Google Maps doesn't show an exact location on its "street view", indicating it might be in the rear of the complex. Any farther up Duke Street, and one runs into Bishop Ireton High School, an unlikely place for a BP provider or AMP operation.

They probably offer a decent, if standard NoVa, service. Check it out and report back with your findings.

SeoulOmio
03-09-16, 19:25
My glory days may have passed me by. Relish yours, as you never know when they may end. Perhaps mine will return someday, after all the tuitions have been paid, if I have a modicum of virility remaining by then, let alone a beating heart at all. In the meantime, let me take you on a little trip down my own memory lane and regale you with boring stories of my own glory days. For those interested in the latest news from the newest spot, you're better off moving on now; if you like to browse the random thoughts of others, then read on.

My glory days were never nearly as prolific as those pros who keep these pages alive, getting to know MMSs and providers, but I've had my moments now and again. Here are a few:

I was lucky enough to have started my adventures before DC's own glory days dried up. About 18 or so years ago I'the say. Not sure when the highest of DC's high was, but it was certainly good enough back in the late 90's. Hard to remember how we learned things back then. I know there were some ads in the sports pages, maybe in the city paper; back page was actually the back page of the city paper. No networks for sharing information; not that I knew of anyway. You just kind of followed your nose and developed a sense about things. You could almost sniff out an AMP. I forget how I found my first, but it was just up the road from where another oldie but goodie is on LRT. Think there used to be a travel agent next door. I think maybe it's the same place that is now a little closer to 395, just moved down the road a bit. First time had no idea what to expect, but somehow you just figured these things out and they kind of happened. Got a good draw my first time; maybe if I hadn't I'the have chalked it up as a failure and never looked back. As it was, I got hooked. Now the siren song forever beckons in the knowledge of what was, and maybe what could be, but probably won't. That first girl was pretty close to my age, and in retrospect seemed way too innocent for an AMP. We were like two virgins having our first encounter together; she may not have been innocent or shy, but she gave a great impression of being so just had that look; but not too shy to roll with it, and she confirmed that I could enjoy just the extras I like, which happen to be to dine. And it was perfect, she was young and fit; not hot, but GND. So, I was hooked by that seeming shared loss of innocence. And that spot was my go to in the early days. Not sure if it was my next visit or not, but my next memorable visit introduced me to another common AMP theme the mature woman. But this one was particularly interesting; perhaps an extension of my beginner's luck. She was probably mid-50's. I was young at the time, but not really a walk-out type, so just went with it. Glad I did. She was unexpectedly game. It is hard for me not to dine when I've gone through the trouble of entering the domain, and so I did. The results were amazing. Often the woman clearly has had enough such attention and is happy to get you drained and dismount as quickly as possible. Not this time. She was so into it. She stopped her end of things and just enjoyed the ride. It went on and on. Excitement built. Finally she lost all control; shuddered, shook, clenched, and collapsed in a trembling, panting mass, before recovering and completing her end of the deal. It felt good to give Mrs. Robinson a little thrill.

Then there was the full on glory of DC. Model-quality pros with all the moves. Oh how lucky we were. And stupid for not blowing even more of our retirement to live for the day. If only we'the known our days were numbered. How did it happen anyway. I really don't get it. Anyway, my go to was just north of G'town. Not up Wisconsin, but maybe on Foxhall. I learned what a real GFE was there. Where are they now? Anyway, one funny thing that happened to me there, although not in a good way, was that I once drew a provider who was clearly a fan favorite, just absolutely statuesque, and (to coin an acronym?) was an ATD (CATD, that is) specialist (. And that isn't the TD of STDs, than you! I think this was my second round with her, and maybe I hadn't been generous enough the first time, but she was called out of the room by the MMS and she came back and explained that her appointment had arrived and someone else would take care of me. This was strange; probably a regular that she preferred; fair enough; objecting would have just led to an uncomfortable experience, so I said fine; and thank goodness because here replacement was Miss. Congeniality; and this is not sour grapes, but ATDs aren't really my thing anyway.

Well, more recent go-to's have been a place on McW in A, the place near where Papaya used to be, and the place on LRT near 395 (in its current location). Everything is very YMMV these days not just in terms of distance, but quality of the ride itself; but these have been good more often than not. I ventured into Tysons once; hard to judge on a single trial, but didn't get the feeling it's as friendly as other spots; and can't afford too many failures, so I tend to do 80% what I know and 20% new research. My Tysons experience was with another non-AMP looking provider; seemed more like someone's wife; attractive, but a little prude. Spent the whole time talking about how she had just completed her massage school and gotten her certification; maybe she didn't realize where she was. Well, I guess she did because she gave the standard, but not an ounce of playfulness, etc, then pouted over a standard tip.

One other favorite, who I will name because I so rarely get names, but this one was memorable, was Scarlett. Just saw her once, but would love to again. She was over in Ffx. Know her? She seems long experienced, and a real local, not rotational maybe kind of graduated into semi MMS status, but still has a surprising level of heat no coyness whatsoever; open, straightforward, but not businesslike, more like someone who just gets it, is fine with it, and knows how to deliver. Sad thing about that place is no TS, which I like; but would return for Scarlett.

Well, I have more fond memories, the Russian specialist on McW with the little dog; making the thicker ladies feel wanted when I'm especially game no matter who I draw. They must be able to see in your eyes whether you're happy with your timing on that given day or regretting giving in to your fantasies; but then they're used to it and they know what's what.

And the siren song continues to call. I tend to take long hiatuses, due to trepidation around lackluster experiences, health risks, financial limitations, and my own personal condition e. G. Just burned my mouth on coffee this morning, going to be a couple of weeks before I again feel up to the onslaught of the AMP environment. Must feel impervious. Yet we can never resist forever. Actually, my goal is to figure out how to enter the "Shangri La" of the upper K echelons. First, I just don't know how to establish my cred for those folks, and can't really drop a grand in a fortnight to do so if that's what it takes. Maybe that just means that I don't belong there. But as a fit, professional, worldly gentleman, I wouldn't imagine they'the want to slam the door in my face once trust was established. And how does safety in SL differ from traditional AMPs; I've heard it's safer. But really? Seems more secure, but maybe be / see more risk? And how unsafe are AMPs anyway? And speaking of AMPs again, I'm guessing there is some kind of connection between all these folks (within the K community). Is there no AMP path to Shangri La? (And are there different SLs? I'm seeing "AAMP" and "CC", and then what I'm calling SL which tends to have websites that come and go. These are more rhetorical questions; on my mind as I discover this new dimension that has evolved since my early days). Then again, of course SL is a beautiful place, but given my proclivity to dine, I wonder if it even is something to aspire to; at least with the nova AMPs I can be pretty sure of the limits of what has transpired earlier that day when it comes time to partake which brings to mind the topic of timing, which I'll save for another time; along with the whole question of AMP dining in general but who's got better ideas? Well, of course, find that willing barrista, but what are the odds.

Cheers!

Lioil
03-12-16, 11:57
Of the four you named, Victoria, Mila, Anna and Alena, which are your faves and which would you recommend (for massage quality and menu options)? Also, can you give us some idea on what extras are on the menu and how they're priced?

I'm also curious about how you rate the four hand experience compared to seeing each of the girls by themselves?I had victoria and I think it was. 8 nude without touching. No BJ at all. I guess if you are into nude thing do mention it when you begin since she offered it at the end and paying. 8 just for 10 min view is insane especially no touching.

Wiiiiam
03-12-16, 14:24
My glory days may have passed me by. Relish yours, as you never know when they may end. Perhaps mine will return someday, after all the tuitions have been paid, if I have a modicum of virility remaining by then, let alone a beating heart at all. In the meantime, let me take you on a little trip down my own memory lane and regale you with boring stories of my own glory days. For those interested in the latest news from the newest spot, you're better off moving on now; if you like to browse the random thoughts of others, then read on.

My glory days were never nearly as prolific as those pros who keep these pages alive, getting to know MMSs and providers, but I've had my moments now and again. Here are a few:

I was lucky enough to have started my adventures before DC's own glory days dried up. About 18 or so years ago I'the say. Not sure when the highest of DC's high was, but it was certainly good enough back in the late 90's. Hard to remember how we learned things back then. I know there were some ads in the sports pages, maybe in the city paper; back page was actually the back page of the city paper. No networks for sharing information; not that I knew of anyway. You just kind of followed your nose and developed a sense about things. You could almost sniff out an AMP. I forget how I found my first, but it was just up the road from where another oldie but goodie is on LRT. Think there used to be a travel agent next door. I think maybe it's the same place that is now a little closer to 395, just moved down the road a bit. First time had no idea what to expect, but somehow you just figured these things out and they kind of happened. Got a good draw my first time; maybe if I hadn't I'the have chalked it up as a failure and never looked back. As it was, I got hooked. Now the siren song forever beckons in the knowledge of what was, and maybe what could be, but probably won't. That first girl was pretty close to my age, and in retrospect seemed way too innocent for an AMP. We were like two virgins having our first encounter together; she may not have been innocent or shy, but she gave a great impression of being so just had that look; but not too shy to roll with it, and she confirmed that I could enjoy just the extras I like, which happen to be to dine. And it was perfect, she was young and fit; not hot, but GND. So, I was hooked by that seeming shared loss of innocence. And that spot was my go to in the early days. Not sure if it was my next visit or not, but my next memorable visit introduced me to another common AMP theme the mature woman. But this one was particularly interesting; perhaps an extension of my beginner's luck. She was probably mid-50's. I was young at the time, but not really a walk-out type, so just went with it. Glad I did. She was unexpectedly game. It is hard for me not to dine when I've gone through the trouble of entering the domain, and so I did. The results were amazing. Often the woman clearly has had enough such attention and is happy to get you drained and dismount as quickly as possible. Not this time. She was so into it. She stopped her end of things and just enjoyed the ride. It went on and on. Excitement built. Finally she lost all control; shuddered, shook, clenched, and collapsed in a trembling, panting mass, before recovering and completing her end of the deal. It felt good to give Mrs. Robinson a little thrill.

Then there was the full on glory of DC. Model-quality pros with all the moves. Oh how lucky we were. And stupid for not blowing even more of our retirement to live for the day. If only we'the known our days were numbered. How did it happen anyway. I really don't get it. Anyway, my go to was just north of G'town. Not up Wisconsin, but maybe on Foxhall. I learned what a real GFE was there. Where are they now? Anyway, one funny thing that happened to me there, although not in a good way, was that I once drew a provider who was clearly a fan favorite, just absolutely statuesque, and (to coin an acronym?) was an ATD (CATD, that is) specialist (. And that isn't the TD of STDs, than you! I think this was my second round with her, and maybe I hadn't been generous enough the first time, but she was called out of the room by the MMS and she came back and explained that her appointment had arrived and someone else would take care of me. This was strange; probably a regular that she preferred; fair enough; objecting would have just led to an uncomfortable experience, so I said fine; and thank goodness because here replacement was Miss. Congeniality; and this is not sour grapes, but ATDs aren't really my thing anyway.

Well, more recent go-to's have been a place on McW in A, the place near where Papaya used to be, and the place on LRT near 395 (in its current location). Everything is very YMMV these days not just in terms of distance, but quality of the ride itself; but these have been good more often than not. I ventured into Tysons once; hard to judge on a single trial, but didn't get the feeling it's as friendly as other spots; and can't afford too many failures, so I tend to do 80% what I know and 20% new research. My Tysons experience was with another non-AMP looking provider; seemed more like someone's wife; attractive, but a little prude. Spent the whole time talking about how she had just completed her massage school and gotten her certification; maybe she didn't realize where she was. Well, I guess she did because she gave the standard, but not an ounce of playfulness, etc, then pouted over a standard tip.

One other favorite, who I will name because I so rarely get names, but this one was memorable, was Scarlett. Just saw her once, but would love to again. She was over in Ffx. Know her? She seems long experienced, and a real local, not rotational maybe kind of graduated into semi MMS status, but still has a surprising level of heat no coyness whatsoever; open, straightforward, but not businesslike, more like someone who just gets it, is fine with it, and knows how to deliver. Sad thing about that place is no TS, which I like; but would return for Scarlett.

Well, I have more fond memories, the Russian specialist on McW with the little dog; making the thicker ladies feel wanted when I'm especially game no matter who I draw. They must be able to see in your eyes whether you're happy with your timing on that given day or regretting giving in to your fantasies; but then they're used to it and they know what's what.

And the siren song continues to call. I tend to take long hiatuses, due to trepidation around lackluster experiences, health risks, financial limitations, and my own personal condition e. G. Just burned my mouth on coffee this morning, going to be a couple of weeks before I again feel up to the onslaught of the AMP environment. Must feel impervious. Yet we can never resist forever. Actually, my goal is to figure out how to enter the "Shangri La" of the upper K echelons. First, I just don't know how to establish my cred for those folks, and can't really drop a grand in a fortnight to do so if that's what it takes. Maybe that just means that I don't belong there. But as a fit, professional, worldly gentleman, I wouldn't imagine they'the want to slam the door in my face once trust was established. And how does safety in SL differ from traditional AMPs; I've heard it's safer. But really? Seems more secure, but maybe be / see more risk? And how unsafe are AMPs anyway? And speaking of AMPs again, I'm guessing there is some kind of connection between all these folks (within the K community). Is there no AMP path to Shangri La? (And are there different SLs? I'm seeing "AAMP" and "CC", and then what I'm calling SL which tends to have websites that come and go. These are more rhetorical questions; on my mind as I discover this new dimension that has evolved since my early days). Then again, of course SL is a beautiful place, but given my proclivity to dine, I wonder if it even is something to aspire to; at least with the nova AMPs I can be pretty sure of the limits of what has transpired earlier that day when it comes time to partake which brings to mind the topic of timing, which I'll save for another time; along with the whole question of AMP dining in general but who's got better ideas? Well, of course, find that willing barrista, but what are the odds.

Cheers!I remember back in the day when the perfect Friday spring evening was having a few drinks at a bar preferably out side to see the ladies on the sidewalk walk by. The on to a tittty bar Achibalds, was it the 1420?, and the place on M street. Final stop was up three dark flights of stairs to the Asian Massage next door to Camelot. Actually this may still be available. A table shower followed by an hour or so of sailor fun. Then it was catch the metro back home to the burbs and call it a night.

Older guy now thinking of a real massage but roaming hands and a happy ending would help ease the pain. Do not go to BP often but saw a AMP really close by. Seems to be a chain. Excuse my ignorance here but any experience or advice for the Pine Tree Spa in Fairfax? Thanks.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/absolutely-the-best-fantastic-asian-body-work-new-staff/21105096

Tom McAn
03-12-16, 19:17
I remember back in the day when the perfect Friday spring evening was having a few drinks at a bar preferably out side to see the ladies on the sidewalk walk by. The on to a tittty bar Achibalds, was it the 1420?, and the place on M street. Final stop was up three dark flights of stairs to the Asian Massage next door to Camelot. Actually this may still be available. A table shower followed by an hour or so of sailor fun. Then it was catch the metro back home to the burbs and call it a night.

Older guy now thinking of a real massage but roaming hands and a happy ending would help ease the pain. Do not go to BP often but saw a AMP really close by. Seems to be a chain. Excuse my ignorance here but any experience or advice for the Pine Tree Spa in Fairfax? Thanks.

http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/absolutely-the-best-fantastic-asian-body-work-new-staff/21105096It's been a few years since I've visited Pine Tree, but I recall getting a strong upsell at rates above and beyond the norm for extras in this area. Be careful!

Pcpc1688
03-12-16, 20:03
Anyone have anything on Oasis place by Costco?

PC out.

Serpico99
03-13-16, 12:25
Anyone have anything on Oasis place by Costco?

PC out.I thought this place was the old JoJo Massage but I just looked up JoJo and they are in a different suite than the place you reference (but they are at the same street address).

Nothing on the other board but I'll venture to say it will probably be run by the same people (or like-minded people) as JoJo. Not worth visiting.

Bf2012
03-13-16, 16:39
JasonArgos15: You must've meant Vicky (not Lilly) at Edsall Therapy (ET). I've seen Vicky several times since she took over this Spa in early 2014. Lilly was the mamasan there before Vicky arrived 2 years ago. Vicky's great, as you noted.


Last week, when winter cold was still overwhelming, I returned to a warm venue near the NoVA ntxn of 395/495.

Some places require an appointment but Manager and Massage Tech Lily at ET greeted me nicely at the door (even though I was a "walk in" I was seen without delay). After determining I wanted an hour, she escorted me to the massage studio at the top of the stairs.

As was the case on my previous visit, everything was clean, linen was fresh, etc.

After paying standard house fee, we crossed the hall to the shower room. The TS here is simply excellent. Not rushed. She helped me stand (to be sure I did not slip on the floor), and after I was dry, walked me back to the massage studio.

An excellent deep-tissue massage followed. Lily is focused on the client, so be a gentleman and enjoy how relaxed you are when the session is complete (full hour requested and received). It is likely I will return in future.

My simple odyssey continues.

JazonArgos15.

Novacreeper
03-13-16, 20:31
JasonArgos15: You must've meant Vicky (not Lilly) at Edsall Therapy (ET). I've seen Vicky several times since she took over this Spa in early 2014. Lilly was the mamasan there before Vicky arrived 2 years ago. Vicky's great, as you noted.ET is a reliable go to and Vicky delivers a decent happy NOVA experience. No extras other than HJ and 7 out of 10 "rub" skills, but great attitude with no games and won't even take tip, wants you to put it on the table for some reason and is always genuinely grateful.

The location is horrible, as it faces a busy road at a light, but if you're looking for a vanilla, relaxing time that won't.

Leave a bad taste in your mouth, or your wallet empty for overpriced, low end "extras" you can't go wrong with her.

Pcpc1688
03-15-16, 09:25
I thought this place was the old JoJo Massage but I just looked up JoJo and they are in a different suite than the place you reference (but they are at the same street address).

Nothing on the other board but I'll venture to say it will probably be run by the same people (or like-minded people) as JoJo. Not worth visiting.Ok what I figured too. Guess E Holly only place now.

PC out.

Serpico99
03-15-16, 16:03
Stop by See and See off of Grant in Hurrrrrdone. I got the manager (I think her name is Kim) who was the only one working. Some mongers think she's frumpy but I find her to be ok, looks wise, but most importantly, she doesn't hustle you for a tip and is playful. I have had a bad experience with June, who I think still is working there based on reviews from another board and although June looks better than Kim, her attitude sucks.

Anyway, it's 80/ hr. Gave 60 for noVa + experience. Place has TS.

Stats: manager is probably almost hitting 50 or early 50's, 5'4"-ish, straight black hair, natural Cs. The entrance is on the back of a small strip mall building so it's discreet.

BigRav
03-15-16, 16:48
I use to have dreams about this place all the time about 2-3 years ago. Always liked the discrete location, never had problems walking in. I saw two providers here most of the time, Hanna and NaNa. Hanna was a mid 40's with a nice body and rack.

NaNa seemed to be younger and had a nice body as well, smaller chest but she made up for that with the way she used them. I always opted for the table shower. It was always very thorough and enjoyable. They also had a very nice dry sauna that I would sit in for about 5 minutes after the shower.

Both providers gave decent medium massages. Hanna was much less friendly, on the flip she always took care of business but it was and effort for anything more than mechanical. I did mange to get in some nice roaming in with her, very solid chest. Fun to play with.

NaNa was out of this world on the other hand. One of my first really good AMP experiences. No FS but still good.

She doesn't have the body Hanna does but she uses it well. Always gave a nice long bare B2 be rub just before the flip with lots of nip teasing. On the flip that continued until we would conclude with a better than standard NOVA Finish.

Saw another provider there once and we got into some DATY while in the 69 position. Couldn't tell what she was doing to me but it felt good. I made a mess all over her in that dream. She was kinda pissed but enjoyed it too I think! What a Dream!

I Noticed they moved down the street a little bit recently?? Anyone been to the new play yet? Same Staff? Is it nicer or the same? Thanks for any Info!

Also, are they connected with the Enliven place right around the corner from them?? I noticed they have a Hanna as well. Never been to that one.

I'm a long time hobbyist and lurker of this site and just started posting yesterday. Hoping to share some info and gain some maybe!

BigRav.

Krakatoa
03-16-16, 00:12
Had a nice visit today. I usually call ahead for Julie, but today I just showed up and drew a different gal, a little older and a little thicker, but still not hard on the eye. She administered one of the better therapeutic massages I've had at an AMP, including time on the legs and feet. Lots of hot towels and back walking too. On the finish, she went straight to what I assume was a fake BJ, the way she screened the view, but she had me going for a minute. Ended with a nice titty fuck. Got the full hour if not more. Again, this place demonstrates it's a solid pick for this part of town. I tipped generously.

Pcpc1688
03-16-16, 09:34
I use to have dreams about this place all the time about 2-3 years ago. Always liked the discrete location, never had problems walking in. I saw two providers here most of the time, Hanna and NaNa. Hanna was a mid 40's with a nice body and rack.

NaNa seemed to be younger and had a nice body as well, smaller chest but she made up for that with the way she used them. I always opted for the table shower. It was always very thorough and enjoyable. They also had a very nice dry sauna that I would sit in for about 5 minutes after the shower.

Both providers gave decent medium massages. Hanna was much less friendly, on the flip she always took care of business but it was and effort for anything more than mechanical. I did mange to get in some nice roaming in with her, very solid chest. Fun to play with.

NaNa was out of this world on the other hand. One of my first really good AMP experiences. No FS but still good.

She doesn't have the body Hanna does but she uses it well. Always gave a nice long bare B2 be rub just before the flip with lots of nip teasing. On the flip that continued until we would conclude with a better than standard NOVA Finish.

Saw another provider there once and we got into some DATY while in the 69 position. Couldn't tell what she was doing to me but it felt good. I made a mess all over her in that dream. She was kinda pissed but enjoyed it too I think! What a Dream!

I Noticed they moved down the street a little bit recently?? Anyone been to the new play yet? Same Staff? Is it nicer or the same? Thanks for any Info!

Also, are they connected with the Enliven place right around the corner from them?? I noticed they have a Hanna as well. Never been to that one.

I'm a long time hobbyist and lurker of this site and just started posting yesterday. Hoping to share some info and gain some maybe!

BigRav.Hey Big Guy.

Reviews from 2-3 yrs ago although informative are basically useless as things change. Do you have any reviews from 2016 perhaps? LOL.

PC out.

BigRav
03-16-16, 09:43
Hey Big Guy.

Reviews from 2-3 yrs ago although informative are basically useless as things change. Do you have any reviews from 2016 perhaps? LOL.

PC out.Hey Pcpc1688,

I know they don't help much, I was just trying to establish that I've been in the hobby for a while now, just never posted. Haven't been down to NOVA for a while, use to work down that way. I've got a more current review on Frederick MD board. Options are pretty limited without a long drive where I am.

Was thinking of making the trip back to G and G to see how their new space is.

Will report back in a prompt manner if I do. Thanks.

Serpico99
03-16-16, 15:20
Hey Big Guy.

Reviews from 2-3 yrs ago although informative are basically useless as things change. Do you have any reviews from 2016 perhaps? LOL.

PC out.I agree PC. What is really annoying is how someone states they are a "long time lurker and hobbyist" and then expect to receive intel. So with all this time that you have been lurking, you are taking intel but not giving intel? LOL And then to give themselves some street cred, they post outdated alleged intel that is worthless for any other contributing member looking to patronize the place today. LOL.

BigRav
03-16-16, 20:54
I agree PC. What is really annoying is how someone states they are a "long time lurker and hobbyist" and then expect to receive intel. So with all this time that you have been lurking, you are taking intel but not giving intel? LOL And then to give themselves some street cred, they post outdated alleged intel that is worthless for any other contributing member looking to patronize the place today. LOL.Serpico99,

Wasn't my intention to come off that way at all. Just wanted you all to know I had some experience with the hobby. Will be more prompt posting reviews from now on. Thought the G and G info may still be helpful, as I've noticed NaNa and Hanna still receive reviews on rubmaps.com.

Again, didn't mean to piss anyone off. Just wanted to know if the new G and G is nice and if it is indeed connected to the Enliven place around the corner.

Also, My comments are still moderated. Takes like a day for my response to go up. Sorry for the delay.

BigRav.

Suriya
03-17-16, 01:56
http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-zenith-massage-center-ashburn-va-22083#review-195469.

Any idea about this parlor? I am new to this hobby and looking for a HE in NoVA.

JmSuttr
03-17-16, 11:20
http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-zenith-massage-center-ashburn-va-22083#review-195469.

Any idea about this parlor? I am new to this hobby and looking for a HE in NoVA.Since you are a brand new poster to the forum, I suggest your best strategy for building up some board cred would be to visit that AMP and post a report about your experience. If you're looking to save $, then go for a hh session. If you're looking to gain as much intel as possible for future visits, then you might consider asking for a 4-hand session (to see if and how much of a playful vibe you get from one or both therapists).

Of course, if you're looking for a sure thing, my suggestion is to RTFF and pick any one of the establishments about which positive reports have been posted.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Pcpc1688
03-17-16, 11:25
I agree PC. What is really annoying is how someone states they are a "long time lurker and hobbyist" and then expect to receive intel. So with all this time that you have been lurking, you are taking intel but not giving intel? LOL And then to give themselves some street cred, they post outdated alleged intel that is worthless for any other contributing member looking to patronize the place today. LOL.Big Guy,

Stop defending yourself dude as your not on trial here LOL.

Go out and give us some credible reports man haha. Serp is one of the most reliable long time posters here along with BB, JSutter, and others. I'm curious to find out more about GG.

PC out.

Suriya
03-17-16, 12:11
Since you are a brand new poster to the forum, I suggest your best strategy for building up some board cred would be to visit that AMP and post a report about your experience. If you're looking to save $, then go for a hh session. If you're looking to gain as much intel as possible for future visits, then you might consider asking for a 4-hand session (to see if and how much of a playful vibe you get from one or both therapists).

Of course, if you're looking for a sure thing, my suggestion is to RTFF and pick any one of the establishments about which positive reports have been posted.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.Here you go, This is the experience about that place. Called that places as I couldn't find the address. Old women greeted and I asked for TS. Unfortunately that old women did the massage.

It felt horrible. Tipped her. 2 and left the place.

MentalCow
03-17-16, 17:22
New here and just started doing this again after almost a decade away. Like some of you old timers, I remember the good old DC days. Had an itching and based on some reviews, tried the Seven place in Falls Church.

Place is in a busy medical park, lost of people about, but I parked in the back where it was a bit more discreet. Walked up a flight of stairs and greeted by Sonia (sp? Probably mid-40's but decent body. Went for the half hour, I think it was $40. Massage was pretty good and hard like I prefer. On the flip, I got the standard HE. Some roaming allowed OTC, but not much. Left her a 0. 4 tip and went on my way.

Someone New
03-17-16, 22:26
I have been lurking for a while and decided to try out the hobby. While traveling to Ft. Lauderdale, I recently had my first massage parlor experience.

Older, not terribly attractive lady, and a bit of a language barrier, but was a pleasant experience and I left "happy. " . 6/. 4.

It looks like I will be in the Dulles area tomorrow with a bit of free time in the evening. Can anyone recommend a decent place in the area for my second try?

I am not looking for "extras" and would prefer no upsell pressure. From reading through this forum, it seems I am looking for the standard NOVA finish.

Looking around, it looks like the VA area is going to be closer to. 8/. 4.Ok, having my first post asking for recommendations was not cool. I apologize. To the person who did send me a PM, Thank you very much! I got your message too late, but I very much appreciate advice.

Looking on here and another site, I settled on checking out Cosmos for my second experience. Jenny met me at the door and was very sweet. She is attractive and spoke fluent English.

Which was everything my first experience was not. Had my first TS and very much enjoyed. After scrubbing for a while, Jenny asked if there was anywhere I needed cleaned and.

Still being a noob, I grabbed the area myself instead of guiding her there. I corrected the error quickly and we both had a laugh at it.

The massage was good. She got up on the table after a while and walked on my back. Another first for me. It was very interesting. Way more pressure than I was expecting.

But not painful. She asked me to flip and did a quick rub around the legs and chest, then she asked if there was anywhere else I needed relaxing. I did not make the same.

Mistake from the TS. Afterwards she got some really hot towels and pressed on my back and face. It was a very happy experience. The house got. 8 and I gave Jenny. 4.

She gave me a little hug and I was on my way. I plan to return.

OldBoomer
03-17-16, 22:40
Book ahead, they seem busy for walk-ins so I haven't had a chance. Any new updates? Ladies seemed nice, at door she was older but friendly, one that peeked around the corner was younger and looked nice.I dreamed a visit last week. There were two providers, my dream was of the older one. Very good massage. OTC roaming with nothing under the very slight tights. Competent standard NOVA finish. All appeared happy with the. 6 House and. 4 tip. While not a GFE, it was a good massage with good finish. Personally I like the dreams with independent providers, but in a pinch this is a good pinch. The parking area has other businesses and is active. You will be observed. No one seems to care.

Goodfootfun
03-18-16, 10:41
This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.

JmSuttr
03-18-16, 14:26
This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.I've tried a few of the AMPs that advertise $45 for an hour and found that they immediately try to upsell you to $60+ for either a deep-tissue or oil massage. Whether extras are on the menu will obviously depend on the specific AMP and therapist, but the point of this post is to confirm your intel that the $45 massage price is generally a bait and switch.

Bunker Buster
03-18-16, 16:11
Ok, having my first post asking for recommendations was not cool. I apologize. To the person who did send me a PM, Thank you very much! I got your message too late, but I very much appreciate advice.
The newbie who asks "where's the best place for X service" isn't going to do well, but a question showing that you've read posts and have done research, but need some clarification, will get you assistance. Sharing information as you've done is definitely a good move.

Despite the suspicious eye towards newbies, especially the clueless ones (who you'll quickly come to find annoying as well, LOL), people who want to "join the club" and participate are certainly welcome.

I would like to associate myself with these remarks. Guys asking procedural questions that are new should be helped, lazy fucking douchbags should be ignored.

A2

BuckshotWatson
03-28-16, 10:25
At a spot on Backlick. Tina is a slender, cute therapist (tight body, be-cups) who gives a nice massage, more than Swedish but not quite deep-deep tissue. She has a pleasant and playful personality, and I recommend.

Ted Williams
03-28-16, 13:12
I had some therapy here in herndun. Used to be called Feeling, too. I was met by Kim who is early 40's with medium height, shoulder length hair with a C/D size rack and only a little pudge on her middle. Pretty decent looks 7/8 out of 10. She was extremely reluctant to give her name. I had to beg her to tell me her name, so I could pass it along to you folks. Anyway, the details of the TS was she was always covering me in the junk with a cloth even though I kept moving it and she said I had to DIY to this region even with me putting her hand there. Boo. I was then thinking this isn't good and she wouldn't tell me her name, but I kept moving on next to the sauna. Baked a few minutes and saw another provider in hall who was less attractive, shorter and curly shorter hair. Definitely had the better of the two today was what I realized. In room she asks what type of massage and I opt to just do light and no back walking. Towards end she says I can DIY for stress relief and I frowned. After many attempts to encourage, she finally broke down and gave me a handshake. All in all I would say less than a standard experience and way too unfriendly for me.

Good Day.

Roamin Roman
03-28-16, 19:40
As anyone who's been following my posts over the past 6 months can attest, I've been exploring the Chinese MILFs quite a bit. However, for a change of pace (and because I truly wanted to find a decent massage), I decided to visit one of the many AMPs in the NoVa area. There was one I hadn't noticed before, and it seems to have been posting on BP (under the "Body Rubs") section for only a couple months. So, I opted for that AMP: Royal Massage on Old Courthouse Road near Tysons Corner. Parking was very easy at the time I went, although it is located in one of the 2-story commercial complexes that dot Old Courthouse Road.

The set-up is identical to most such AMPs: Outer door, foyer area, and inner door (at the top of the steps). House fee was. 8 for the hour. From the outside, though, there is nothing to identify this as much of anything, though. It appears to be just another one of the businesses there, which it is.

The woman who answered the door gave her name as Hannah (pronounced that way, rather than as "Hana" as some AMP girls are named). She escorted me to the room, asked if I wanted a shower (which, on this occasion, I declined since I had just showered an hour earlier), put a new sheet on the massage table, took the house fee, and told me to get ready. When she returned, she asked how I wanted the massage. Light, medium, or strong. And proceeded to give a very nice, deep tissue massage over the next 45 minutes. She was very deliberate. Not rushed. And I enjoyed a very nice rubdown, with particular attention to the back and shoulder muscles. Then, for the remaining 15 minutes, she proceeded to finish up with the very same deliberate attention. I left completely satisfied and will probably make a return visit, even though this is slightly out of the way for me. Due to the quality of the massage, I tipped. 5 instead of the customary. 4 at most AMPs.

During the conversation, Hannah indicated that she's came from Korea to Washington DC about 7 years ago and has remained here throughout that time. Her dream is to make a visit back home in the next year or so to see friends and family. She's a nice girl, and I'd like to think she'll be able to achieve that dream.

As for the details about the establishment itself, the sheets were new and clean (no "recycling" the interior lacked any aromas of food or mildew, and the general appearance was one of a well-kept establishment. As for Hannah herself, she is probably late-30's to mid-40's (a little hard to tell, and I didn't want to ask), medium height, shoulder-length brown hair, decent looks (7. 5 out of 10), decent body (7. 5 out of 10) with natural 34-Cs, about 120#, and very pleasant.

Consider visiting this establishment, if you're in the general area of Tysons Corner, as I think you'll be very pleased and satisfied. Although this was my first visit, I found it to be a solid experience.

NukeyNuke
03-30-16, 11:36
Dude, I don't know you but I know everything you speak of. You just brought back some serious memories.

DC in the late '90's. Jeez. My favorite was Ginza. I spent so much time there it felt like going to a friends house when I went. I never went through the front door.

Wonder where Connie is today?

Another great place was FCCC. Man, I hate that place is gone. You never knew what you'd get but it was good most of the time. I remember going there one time and some dude (one of you for sure) was plowing the hell out of some chick on the other side of the sheet that separated off the living room and making a ton of noise doing it. If anyone finds another FCCC, please PM me. I did talk to the chick that once ran it but they do motels now. I don't do motels. CC's mostly now for the variety but it's obvious to me that they don't fully understand the nuances of 'where best' to rent, unlike FCCC which was perfectly placed.

It's a new day but there's still tons there. Enjoy.


My glory days may have passed me by. Relish yours, as you never know when they may end. Perhaps mine will return someday, after all the tuitions have been paid, if I have a modicum of virility remaining by then, let alone a beating heart at all. In the meantime, let me take you on a little trip down my own memory lane and regale you with boring stories of my own glory days. For those interested in the latest news from the newest spot, you're better off moving on now; if you like to browse the random thoughts of others, then read on.

Vamassage Fan
03-30-16, 12:06
Then become a regular and build trust. May take 4-6 visits, but once you establish a relationship of mutual trust, then, and only then, will you determine the full available menu. But if you find one in a convientient location with an attractive MILF, you find yourself with access to a full menu at low risk and at a cost that is extremely favorable when compared to anything comparable elsewhere. But judging an AMP based on one or two visits is not the way to go as they remain in business by being very very cautious.


I've tried a few of the AMPs that advertise $45 for an hour and found that they immediately try to upsell you to $60+ for either a deep-tissue or oil massage. Whether extras are on the menu will obviously depend on the specific AMP and therapist, but the point of this post is to confirm your intel that the $45 massage price is generally a bait and switch.

L Knit
03-30-16, 14:58
Dude, I don't know you but I know everything you speak of. You just brought back some serious memories.

DC in the late '90's. Jeez. My favorite was Ginza. I spent so much time there it felt like going to a friends house when I went. I never went through the front door.

Wonder where Connie is today?

Another great place was FCCC. Man, I hate that place is gone. You never knew what you'd get but it was good most of the time. I remember going there one time and some dude (one of you for sure) was plowing the hell out of some chick on the other side of the sheet that separated off the living room and making a ton of noise doing it. If anyone finds another FCCC, please PM me. I did talk to the chick that once ran it but they do motels now. I don't do motels. CC's mostly now for the variety but it's obvious to me that they don't fully understand the nuances of 'where best' to rent, unlike FCCC which was perfectly placed.

It's a new day but there's still tons there. Enjoy.Don't get us all started about the good old days. Ginza, Downtown, Golden, HWC etc. You could open the back of the post's sports page and every AMP listed was F / S. Every one of them were in competition for your business so the service was off the chart. I still visit one of my old DC AMP fav's gone Indy on occasion that never left the area. I remember the first CC or FCCC that was near the Gallow & Lee hwy. My old buddy Nick ran it until trouble found him. I often wonder what ever happened to him, He was THE MAN!

JmSuttr
03-30-16, 18:27
Then become a regular and build trust. May take 4-6 visits, but once you establish a relationship of mutual trust, then, and only then, will you determine the full available menu. But if you find one in a convientient location with an attractive MILF, you find yourself with access to a full menu at low risk and at a cost that is extremely favorable when compared to anything comparable elsewhere. But judging an AMP based on one or two visits is not the way to go as they remain in business by being very very cautious.Since he was the one with the original AMP issue. My only point was to confirm that it's unlikely he's going to find a good massage (extras or no extras) at $45 per hour. FWIW, I've had much better results with independent FBSM providers. The same principle applies, once you become a regular and she gets comfortable with you, the menu usually expands. The added benefit is that an independent provider doesn't have to share her $ and you don't have to worry about county licensing (or LEO) walking in during your session.

Roamin Roman
03-31-16, 00:50
This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.

I've tried a few of the AMPs that advertise $45 for an hour and found that they immediately try to upsell you to $60+ for either a deep-tissue or oil massage. Whether extras are on the menu will obviously depend on the specific AMP and therapist, but the point of this post is to confirm your intel that the $45 massage price is generally a bait and switch.

Then become a regular and build trust. May take 4-6 visits, but once you establish a relationship of mutual trust, then, and only then, will you determine the full available menu. But if you find one in a convientient location with an attractive MILF, you find yourself with access to a full menu at low risk and at a cost that is extremely favorable when compared to anything comparable elsewhere. But judging an AMP based on one or two visits is not the way to go as they remain in business by being very very cautious.

Since he was the one with the original AMP issue. My only point was to confirm that it's unlikely he's going to find a good massage (extras or no extras) at $45 per hour. FWIW, I've had much better results with independent FBSM providers. The same principle applies, once you become a regular and she gets comfortable with you, the menu usually expands. The added benefit is that an independent provider doesn't have to share her $ and you don't have to worry about county licensing (or LEO) walking in during your session.To add to what JmSuttr advises, I've found that the independent Asians who advertise under the "Body Rubs" section of Backpage tend to take this approach. Your first visit might only entail FBSM (or, perhaps more will even be available on your first visit); follow-up visits will very often see an expansion of the menu. In fact, some of the Asian escorts appear to be listing their ads in the "Body Rubs" section as a means of keeping a lower profile.

Think about it: Listing an ad in the "Escort" section immediately puts a red flag on their service, but listing an ad in the "Body Rubs" section keeps it semi-legitimate. Besides, once the customer is in the room and the session has begun, the girl can always judge whether the customer is looking only for a "massage" or something more. (Ever wonder why so many of them seem to lightly touch the tip of your tool, while you're laying face-down and she's working your leg muscles?)

My point is what JmSuttr's post implies: that you can often find a full menu with some of the Asian providers who advertise in Backpage's "Body Rubs" section but don't advertise in the "Escort" section. (This also gives the girl some degree of deniability, in case friends or family happen to see the ad.).

Suriya
04-01-16, 02:09
Ok, having my first post asking for recommendations was not cool. I apologize. To the person who did send me a PM, Thank you very much! I got your message too late, but I very much appreciate advice.

Looking on here and another site, I settled on checking out Cosmos for my second experience. Jenny met me at the door and was very sweet. She is attractive and spoke fluent English.

Which was everything my first experience was not. Had my first TS and very much enjoyed. After scrubbing for a while, Jenny asked if there was anywhere I needed cleaned and.

Still being a noob, I grabbed the area myself instead of guiding her there. I corrected the error quickly and we both had a laugh at it.

The massage was good. She got up on the table after a while and walked on my back. Another first for me. It was very interesting. Way more pressure than I was expecting.

But not painful. She asked me to flip and did a quick rub around the legs and chest, then she asked if there was anywhere else I needed relaxing. I did not make the same.

Mistake from the TS. Afterwards she got some really hot towels and pressed on my back and face. It was a very happy experience. The house got. 8 and I gave Jenny. 4.

She gave me a little hug and I was on my way. I plan to return.After Reading this post decided to visit the AMP and I asked for Jenny. After 20 minute wait, finally she came (Not attractive as mentioned here). 35 to 40 year lady with very very small (.)(.).

She didn't forget to ask how I know her. I told that I have been here but she was very sure that she is seeing me first time. (is it ok to say like this).

Had a TS. She asked to clean my shaft but I guided her hand to it to which she happily did that. Then had a good decent message. Gave her. 4 tip and. 8 house fee and left.

WebDog2015
04-03-16, 15:09
Stop by See and See off of Grant in Hurrrrrdone. I got the manager (I think her name is Kim) who was the only one working. Some mongers think she's frumpy but I find her to be ok, looks wise, but most importantly, she doesn't hustle you for a tip and is playful. I have had a bad experience with June, who I think still is working there based on reviews from another board and although June looks better than Kim, her attitude sucks.

Anyway, it's 80/ hr. Gave 60 for noVa + experience. Place has TS.

Stats: manager is probably almost hitting 50 or early 50's, 5'4"-ish, straight black hair, natural Cs. The entrance is on the back of a small strip mall building so it's discreet.I have been a regular at this place for over a year. With the exception of one place I visited 3 times and will never repeat, I have gone here on average once a week. I see June 90% of the time. Sometimes I see the manager Serpico is referring, but I have a hard time getting off with her. But she does have a great attitude and gives a great massage. June gives a great massage too. Every visit has been awesome, with a really talented massage (like what you'd expect a high-end, legit spa) followed by a very sensual ended. If you have seen her, you know her service level I am sure.

I called up yesterday and talked to the manager, and was told June was on vacation. I didn't want to see her (manager) and I asked who was taking her place, she assured me I would love the new girl and to please come in.

I did go, and the new 'girl' (probably in her early late 40's at least) was no bad looking. Told me her name is "Amy". Everything was on par as my usual experience with June. I would have preferred June but this was fine. No complaints.

She was very accommodating on the finish, just like June. No FS but non-mechanical, lots of enthusiasm. Just like June, as I have seen dozens of times.

Everything was just like the usual, standard NoVA experience (but by current standards I think is the best in NoVA, yet not too different from most places).

And that is where the good times ended. There was no discussion of a tip. There never is. Typically I would leave $60-80 for June and $40-60 for others there, including the manager (whose name I think is Tia).

I left $70 for Amy because that's what I had. If I had $80 I probably would have left that, but didn't have it so figured $70 was a nice gesture.

Amy picks it up and starts to freak out. Her baby-talk, pigeon English (her cutesy "my Engrish no good") changes to pretty much unaccented English, with which she has not problem expressing herself.

She says "This is not nearly enough! You know this is not right!" I was sincerely taken back asked what are talking about? How much were you expecting and she said "The minimum is $120"

I laughed and said she was crazy. I said that is more than I would pay for full service and she said "Full Service is at least $200" (but to be clear, they don't do FS there)

I said she's nuts, and she didn't back down. She said "You need to make this right. You're wrong and you know it" and she actually started to cry. I said get mamasan in her and have he tell it to me, and we bickered about whether there even was a mamasan there (which Tia / the manager always claimed not to be, and I think may be in fact true).

Bottom line, I may never go back there, but at best would only go if June is back.

I highly recommend avoiding Amy. Total ROB.

JmSuttr
04-06-16, 20:43
I have been a regular at this place for over a year. With the exception of one place I visited 3 times and will never repeat, I have gone here on average once a week. I see June 90% of the time. Sometimes I see the manager Serpico is referring, but I have a hard time getting off with her. But she does have a great attitude and gives a great massage. June gives a great massage too. Every visit has been awesome, with a really talented massage (like what you'd expect a high-end, legit spa) followed by a very sensual ended. If you have seen her, you know her service level I am sure.

I called up yesterday and talked to the manager, and was told June was on vacation. I didn't want to see her (manager) and I asked who was taking her place, she assured me I would love the new girl and to please come in.

I did go, and the new 'girl' (probably in her early late 40's at least) was no bad looking. Told me her name is "Amy". Everything was on par as my usual experience with June. I would have preferred June but this was fine. No complaints.

She was very accommodating on the finish, just like June. No FS but non-mechanical, lots of enthusiasm. Just like June, as I have seen dozens of times.

Everything was just like the usual, standard NoVA experience (but by current standards I think is the best in NoVA, yet not too different from most places).

And that is where the good times ended. There was no discussion of a tip. There never is. Typically I would leave $60-80 for June and $40-60 for others there, including the manager (whose name I think is Tia).

I left $70 for Amy because that's what I had. If I had $80 I probably would have left that, but didn't have it so figured $70 was a nice gesture.

Amy picks it up and starts to freak out. Her baby-talk, pigeon English (her cutesy "my Engrish no good") changes to pretty much unaccented English, with which she has not problem expressing herself.

She says "This is not nearly enough! You know this is not right!" I was sincerely taken back asked what are talking about? How much were you expecting and she said "The minimum is $120"

I laughed and said she was crazy. I said that is more than I would pay for full service and she said "Full Service is at least $200" (but to be clear, they don't do FS there)

I said she's nuts, and she didn't back down. She said "You need to make this right. You're wrong and you know it" and she actually started to cry. I said get mamasan in her and have he tell it to me, and we bickered about whether there even was a mamasan there (which Tia / the manager always claimed not to be, and I think may be in fact true).

Bottom line, I may never go back there, but at best would only go if June is back.

I highly recommend avoiding Amy. Total ROB.Just a couple of points about your experience:

While it definitely sounds as if Amy is worth avoiding, I don't think it's technically correct to label her as an ROB. After all, she did provide the service and she didn't even haggle / upsell you beforehand. That being said, she was obviously unhappy with the tip amount and raised a stink, and that's absolutely not cool and no client should put up with that. IMHO, a true ROB is someone who takes the cash and provides nothing in return.

And that leads me to my second point, which is that it's very unlikely that Amy will be able to continue working at that AMP without a major attitude adjustment. My reasoning is simply that, just like you, there is no way any experienced AMP client is going to leave $120 as a tip for standard or even enhanced NOVA finish. Which means that each time a client tries to leave the typical $40-$60 tip, she's going to create a scene like she did with you. But that can only go on for so long before it generates an adverse reaction by MMS or the owner, because they don't want to have any problems and there's always a chance that a client, who doesn't handle the situation in as gentlemanly a manner as you did, may create an even bigger scene.

So it wouldn't surprise me if the next time you called you found out that Amy was no longer there. But, even if she is, now that you know the drill, all you need to do is tell MMS that you don't want Amy as your therapist. If she asks why (although of course she already knows this) just tell her the truth, namely that Amy overcharges and you don't appreciate her attitude.

FWIW, even the best AMP sometimes gets a bad apple, but the other masseuses may still be worth your time. If you do decided to visit again, let us know if Amy is still around or she's been shown the door.

Happy hunting and stay safe!

Angular
04-07-16, 11:45
I have been a regular at this place for over a year. With the exception of one place I visited 3 times and will never repeat, I have gone here on average once a week. I see June 90% of the time. Sometimes I see the manager Serpico is referring, but I have a hard time getting off with her. But she does have a great attitude and gives a great massage. June gives a great massage too. Every visit has been awesome, with a really talented massage (like what you'd expect a high-end, legit spa) followed by a very sensual ended. If you have seen her, you know her service level I am sure.

I called up yesterday and talked to the manager, and was told June was on vacation. I didn't want to see her (manager) and I asked who was taking her place, she assured me I would love the new girl and to please come in.

I did go, and the new 'girl' (probably in her early late 40's at least) was no bad looking. Told me her name is "Amy". Everything was on par as my usual experience with June. I would have preferred June but this was fine. No complaints.

She was very accommodating on the finish, just like June. No FS but non-mechanical, lots of enthusiasm. Just like June, as I have seen dozens of times.

Everything was just like the usual, standard NoVA experience (but by current standards I think is the best in NoVA, yet not too different from most places).

And that is where the good times ended. There was no discussion of a tip. There never is. Typically I would leave $60-80 for June and $40-60 for others there, including the manager (whose name I think is Tia).

I left $70 for Amy because that's what I had. If I had $80 I probably would have left that, but didn't have it so figured $70 was a nice gesture.

Amy picks it up and starts to freak out. Her baby-talk, pigeon English (her cutesy "my Engrish no good") changes to pretty much unaccented English, with which she has not problem expressing herself.

She says "This is not nearly enough! You know this is not right!" I was sincerely taken back asked what are talking about? How much were you expecting and she said "The minimum is $120"

I laughed and said she was crazy. I said that is more than I would pay for full service and she said "Full Service is at least $200" (but to be clear, they don't do FS there)

I said she's nuts, and she didn't back down. She said "You need to make this right. You're wrong and you know it" and she actually started to cry. I said get mamasan in her and have he tell it to me, and we bickered about whether there even was a mamasan there (which Tia / the manager always claimed not to be, and I think may be in fact true).

Bottom line, I may never go back there, but at best would only go if June is back.

I highly recommend avoiding Amy. Total ROB.120 for the TIP? Not total, right? What was the house fee?

Lane Narrows
04-09-16, 14:32
I hadn't seen any Cristine's ads for awhile but I gave her a call and was able to see her. She has a set-up by Lee Highway in Fairfax.

She's an older (40's) Thai lady with a much younger looking body, nice curves in all the right places, and great bolt-ons. (Seriously, if you want to know about how old an Asian woman is, look around their eyes and also see if their gray roots are showing.) Got a FBSM with some nuru gel for $. 2 and left happy with plans on seeing her again.

This isn't her ad but she can be reached at this number.

http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxation-for-your-mind-with-nice-touch-and-body-rub/20269481

WebDog2015
04-09-16, 20:40
120 for the TIP? Not total, right? What was the house fee?House is $80/hr. Standard. $70 was on the generous side of standard. $80 is too much but something I'd do occasionally. $120 is laughable. Yes that is what she demanded for a tip, so $200 total.

The whole scene ridiculous, with her crying (crocodile tears) and being totally obnoxious about it. I will not go back. Which is honestly too bad as it the one place I had become a regular.

JmSuttr, your points are correct. I still call her an ROB because of the shakedown and hysterics, but it's true it was all after services were rendered and it was quality service. Frankly that's what pisses me off. I like the idea of have a place to go where the TS and massage are solid, the whole hour is honored, and the finish is all-access with everything just short of FS. For $80+$60 its a great deal as AMPs go. At $80+$80 it is competing with the condos that offer similar quality with FS. But I felt better dealing with entrepreneurs who come and go on their freewill. Amy just left a bad taste in my mouth (albeit not literally, like all Koreans her snatch was reasonably tasty).

Nerd29
04-11-16, 12:04
Was a very important person a couple of weeks ago and was treated accordingly. Needed a good massage as I was on a long road trip. Was treated to a ts to wash off the road grime, received a nice massage and the standard nova finish. 1. 2 for a half hour including tip.

Volvos40
04-11-16, 12:29
I was last there 30 days ago. They are Chinese, not K-girls. I have seen Susan for a about a year but she is on vacation to China. She only did great teasing, no HE. I have a feeling there might not be HE there. I should stop by and see, since the main girl there knows so well. Good luck.


http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-zenith-massage-center-ashburn-va-22083#review-195469.

Any idea about this parlor? I am new to this hobby and looking for a HE in NoVA.

Jim Rob
04-12-16, 22:07
Huge waste of time. So much teasing to the point she was rubbing my balls for 15 minutes and I had this huge hard on. At one point I motion for her to play with the shaft. M, she said oh no that's illegal! I laugh and I'm like playing with her, I'm rubbing her ass and pussy so hard, but she refuses to stroke me, only offered to rub my balls so I can jerk myself off.

I was so pissed at the end I just got up and left and was done with her bull shit, I paid 6 jacksons for the hour and tipped her 20 , I honestly felt like leaving nothing. She was typical old shit in nova and made comments about my weight. I know I'm fat *****! That's why I have to pay!!

Anyway avoid this place in merrifield next to subway.

JmSuttr
04-13-16, 16:18
Huge waste of time. So much teasing to the point she was rubbing my balls for 15 minutes and I had this huge hard on. At one point I motion for her to play with the shaft. M, she said oh no that's illegal! I laugh and I'm like playing with her, I'm rubbing her ass and pussy so hard, but she refuses to stroke me, only offered to rub my balls so I can jerk myself off.

I was so pissed at the end I just got up and left and was done with her bull shit, I paid 6 jacksons for the hour and tipped her 20 , I honestly felt like leaving nothing. She was typical old shit in nova and made comments about my weight. I know I'm fat *****! That's why I have to pay!!

Anyway avoid this place in merrifield next to subway.If I understood your post correctly, you paid $120 for the hour? I'm confused because the regular price at that place is $60 for the hour and $90 for 90 minutes. Did you get some kind of upsell? If so, how did that go down? Also, what made you think extras would be available? I've been several times for deep tissue massage and it was pretty clear to me that it's a legit shop. It is true that, if you happen to get a therapist who is comfortable with you, you may get some teasing but that's pretty much it. One strong indication for me that it's legit is because the entrance setup is wide open, without the vestibule and doorbell arrangement used by most HE AMPs.

I'm pretty sure there are no reviews on the oThER site, or discussions in this forum, because I would have noticed. So, just giving credit where due, IMHO it's not a waste of time if what you're looking for is a good deep tissue (legit) massage at a reasonable price (I pay $90 + $20 tip for 90 minutes). FWIW, in the absence of reviews or forum posts, I always assume a new AMP is legit. That way, if I TOFTT and all that happens is I get a good massage, I'm not disappointed. If something more happens, then that's pure icing on the cake.

Just to make sure we're talking about the same place, here's one of their recent ads:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5533834941.html

SwallowMyLoad1
04-13-16, 23:31
Can't remember my email / login from my previous account, so had to make a new one. Lurked for awhile, made a few posts for places I visited, but lost it all. Oh well.

For those in the Woodbridge area, some quick notes:

- JadeTree on Opitz. Great place. The parking lot can be busy because of neighboring medical offices but otherwise safe. Rooms are private and clean. Two girls, Amy and one who I can't remember. Amy is a 5 on the eyes, 7 on the massage and a 9 on the turn. I've gotten more than the typical NOVA in the past. The other girl is cuter and gives a good massage too, just can't remember the name.

- Eutopia in Minnieville. Been there twice, not sure why I went back. Massage was crummy the first time and there was no HE, not even the hint. The second time (two days ago) was because I was in the area and needed an actual massage. The rooms are not private, in that there is no specific cieling for the rooms. You can hear everything. As in, I kept thinking someone was coming into the room as people walked past. Massage was good this time though but again, no HE. Made it clear but she said they don't do that there. At least the massage was good!

SwallowMyLoad1
04-13-16, 23:36
This place is a dud. They have a $45 hour special but it is just light caressing with no reall massage. An hour of actual massage is $60. There was a little teasing but on the flip she insisted on DIY. I didn't even bother. I have gone twice to two different girls and they both insisted on DIY.Had the same thing happen to me twice. If I wanted to do it myself, I would have stayed home.

Laura Rager
04-14-16, 08:24
I saw the strangest sight near the "Health Center" on Richmond Highway in Alexandria. Near Route 1, there was a man in black leaning against a telephone pole aiming binoculars in the general direction of the Health Center. Parked in front of the place was a large pickup with tags and stickers talking about one branch of the military. Now he might have been looking at the tax preparer office nearby, or the African church that inhibits another townhouse with seemingly dozens of residents. He had what appeared to be municipal tags on a Malibu. I have a photo of the person but am not posting it here unless someone really thinks that is a good idea.

Just a heads up.

Jim Rob
04-14-16, 08:51
Yes sixty for the hour, I was typing fast on my phone and messed that up. Yes the entrance is open and you're correct, but since this place is so close to my work, I got stupid because I was horny shit.

The reason I felt and ending was going to happen, she gave me the massage without a cover. She was doing the gentle touch and spent her entire time on my ass and teasing my balls, this got me really horny and on the flip she played with my balls the entire time rubbing them and massaging them, it wasn't just a light brush but a full on he on my balls.

During this time I was playing with her ass. Yes it was over her pants, but I had free roam, I basically almost finger her with her pants on. I had panties thongs pulled to the side and I could feel her snatch as I rubbed it. This is when I said baby I need to cum and motion for her to stop playing with my balls and jerk me off, that's when she was like no way that's illegal, I'm laughing at this point and thinking and rubbing my balls isn't??

So I asked her a few times and she's like no tug, not at this place, then she tells me to jerk off myself and she will continue playing with my balls, I'm thinking this is ridiculous and my dick goes flat and I just change my mood from super friendly to quiet and tell her I'm leaving. We spent almost 45 minutes talking and earlier in the massage when she was critical of my weight I just laughed it off, but now I'm thinking f you.


If I understood your post correctly, you paid $120 for the hour? I'm confused because the regular price at that place is $60 for the hour and $90 for 90 minutes. Did you get some kind of upsell? If so, how did that go down? Also, what made you think extras would be available? I've been several times for deep tissue massage and it was pretty clear to me that it's a legit shop. It is true that, if you happen to get a therapist who is comfortable with you, you may get some teasing but that's pretty much it. One strong indication for me that it's legit is because the entrance setup is wide open, without the vestibule and doorbell arrangement used by most HE AMPs.

I'm pretty sure there are no reviews on the oThER site, or discussions in this forum, because I would have noticed. So, just giving credit where due, IMHO it's not a waste of time if what you're looking for is a good deep tissue (legit) massage at a reasonable price (I pay $90 + $20 tip for 90 minutes). FWIW, in the absence of reviews or forum posts, I always assume a new AMP is legit. That way, if I TOFTT and all that happens is I get a good massage, I'm not disappointed. If something more happens, then that's pure icing on the cake.

Just to make sure we're talking about the same place, here's one of their recent ads:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5533834941.html

JmSuttr
04-14-16, 10:35
Yes sixty for the hour, I was typing fast on my phone and messed that up. Yes the entrance is open and you're correct, but since this place is so close to my work, I got stupid because I was horny shit.

The reason I felt and ending was going to happen, she gave me the massage without a cover. She was doing the gentle touch and spent her entire time on my ass and teasing my balls, this got me really horny and on the flip she played with my balls the entire time rubbing them and massaging them, it wasn't just a light brush but a full on he on my balls.

During this time I was playing with her ass. Yes it was over her pants, but I had free roam, I basically almost finger her with her pants on. I had panties thongs pulled to the side and I could feel her snatch as I rubbed it. This is when I said baby I need to cum and motion for her to stop playing with my balls and jerk me off, that's when she was like no way that's illegal, I'm laughing at this point and thinking and rubbing my balls isn't??

So I asked her a few times and she's like no tug, not at this place, then she tells me to jerk off myself and she will continue playing with my balls, I'm thinking this is ridiculous and my dick goes flat and I just change my mood from super friendly to quiet and tell her I'm leaving. We spent almost 45 minutes talking and earlier in the massage when she was critical of my weight I just laughed it off, but now I'm thinking f you.For a legit massage at $60 per hr with a $20 tip, you certainly got more "play" than most places and therapists would have allowed. In addition, she encouraged you to finish yourself (and I'm guessing she would have continued to help in the same way she had been doing) which is also above and beyond what most legit massage shops offer.

I understand your disappointment since most mongers are not into self-service, especially if they are at an AMP where the price is at the level ($80+) where extras should be on the menu (which this one is not). But, from a purely objective perspective, you got more for your $ than the average hobbyist would at the average legit AMP.

So, from the perspective of someone who was horny going in and assumed (or hoped) extras were on the table, you're right to say it was a waste of time. But, from the perspective of someone who is looking for a reasonably priced legit deep-tissue massage, with a little sensuality thrown in at no extra charge, I would venture to say that this place is a good value. At least that has been my experience and I would recommend for anyone looking for that kind of session.

BTW, don't know what comment she made about your weight but obviously something like that is not cool.

P.S. There are other AMPs with reviews and discussions that are not far away from that area. With a little homework and driving an extra 5-10 minutes you would have avoided the frustration of dealing with an unreviewed legit spa.

P. P.S. One final thought is that it's important to remember that in a legit shop a therapist is jeopardizing her job if she gives extras. She may have a family to support and even if it doesn't seem like a big deal to the client to go "that little bit extra, " it's a big deal to her. So that's one more element of perspective to consider.

Jim Rob
04-14-16, 12:47
For a legit massage the place is fine. Was a waste of time for me and what I was looking for. I love a nice sensual massage and I need the finish to complete the overall experience or I just leave very frustrated. For legit place it's great deal and people will enjoy that. However I wonder if most mongers are like me and need that release. Not sure the place will make it. I won't return for sure.

I just miss the old days with the young hotties. I remember some places the girls actually came to the room in a bikini.


For a legit massage at $60 per hr with a $20 tip, you certainly got more "play" than most places and therapists would have allowed. In addition, she encouraged you to finish yourself (and I'm guessing she would have continued to help in the same way she had been doing) which is also above and beyond what most legit massage shops offer.

I understand your disappointment since most mongers are not into self-service, especially if they are at an AMP where the price is at the level ($80+) where extras should be on the menu (which this one is not). But, from a purely objective perspective, you got more for your $ than the average hobbyist would at the average legit AMP.

So, from the perspective of someone who was horny going in and assumed (or hoped) extras were on the table, you're right to say it was a waste of time. But, from the perspective of someone who is looking for a reasonably priced legit deep-tissue massage, with a little sensuality thrown in at no extra charge, I would venture to say that this place is a good value. At least that has been my experience and I would recommend for anyone looking for that kind of session.

BTW, don't know what comment she made about your weight but obviously something like that is not cool.

P.S. There are other AMPs with reviews and discussions that are not far away from that area. With a little homework and driving an extra 5-10 minutes you would have avoided the frustration of dealing with an unreviewed legit spa.

P. P.S. One final thought is that it's important to remember that in a legit shop a therapist is jeopardizing her job if she gives extras. She may have a family to support and even if it doesn't seem like a big deal to the client to go "that little bit extra, " it's a big deal to her. So that's one more element of perspective to consider.

Je2010
04-14-16, 13:09
For a legit massage at $60 per hr with a $20 tip, you certainly got more "play" than most places and therapists would have allowed. In addition, she encouraged you to finish yourself (and I'm guessing she would have continued to help in the same way she had been doing) which is also above and beyond what most legit massage shops offer.

I understand your disappointment since most mongers are not into self-service, especially if they are at an AMP where the price is at the level ($80+) where extras should be on the menu (which this one is not). But, from a purely objective perspective, you got more for your $ than the average hobbyist would at the average legit AMP.

So, from the perspective of someone who was horny going in and assumed (or hoped) extras were on the table, you're right to say it was a waste of time. But, from the perspective of someone who is looking for a reasonably priced legit deep-tissue massage, with a little sensuality thrown in at no extra charge, I would venture to say that this place is a good value. At least that has been my experience and I would recommend for anyone looking for that kind of session.

BTW, don't know what comment she made about your weight but obviously something like that is not cool.

P.S. There are other AMPs with reviews and discussions that are not far away from that area. With a little homework and driving an extra 5-10 minutes you would have avoided the frustration of dealing with an unreviewed legit spa.

P. P.S. One final thought is that it's important to remember that in a legit shop a therapist is jeopardizing her job if she gives extras. She may have a family to support and even if it doesn't seem like a big deal to the client to go "that little bit extra, " it's a big deal to her. So that's one more element of perspective to consider.I have had this numerous times and all were the first time I was there. I went back, saw the same girl and she had no problem helping me out. (Different place than you went to).

For what you paid, sure she told you you had to do it yourself, but you still got a good amount of roaming.

JmSuttr
04-14-16, 13:15
For a legit massage the place is fine. Was a waste of time for me and what I was looking for. I love a nice sensual massage and I need the finish to complete the overall experience or I just leave very frustrated. For legit place it's great deal and people will enjoy that. However I wonder if most mongers are like me and need that release. Not sure the place will make it. I won't return for sure.

I just miss the old days with the young hotties. I remember some places the girls actually came to the room in a bikini.You might want to try either Sun (aka Sunstar) or Mei Therapy, both of which aren't very far from that place. I haven't been to either for quite a while so maybe other members might have more current info, but either one of them should leave you satisfied. I doubt you'll get a young hottie in a bikini, but these days you do the best you can.

Krakatoa
04-14-16, 22:12
You might want to try either Sun (aka Sunstar) or Mei Therapy, both of which aren't very far from that place. I haven't been to either for quite a while so maybe other members might have more current info, but either one of them should leave you satisfied. I doubt you'll get a young hottie in a bikini, but these days you do the best you can.Concurring with Mr Suttr that those places should be reliable. I've been to both in the last couple of months.

NyHornet
04-14-16, 22:41
Can't remember my email / login from my previous account, so had to make a new one. Lurked for awhile, made a few posts for places I visited, but lost it all. Oh well.

For those in the Woodbridge area, some quick notes:

- JadeTree on Opitz. Great place. The parking lot can be busy because of neighboring medical offices but otherwise safe. Rooms are private and clean. Two girls, Amy and one who I can't remember. Amy is a 5 on the eyes, 7 on the massage and a 9 on the turn. I've gotten more than the typical NOVA in the past. The other girl is cuter and gives a good massage too, just can't remember the name.

- Eutopia in Minnieville. Been there twice, not sure why I went back. Massage was crummy the first time and there was no HE, not even the hint. The second time (two days ago) was because I was in the area and needed an actual massage. The rooms are not private, in that there is no specific cieling for the rooms. You can hear everything. As in, I kept thinking someone was coming into the room as people walked past. Massage was good this time though but again, no HE. Made it clear but she said they don't do that there. At least the massage was good!Jade Tree has been closed for at least 3 years, so not sure which place you are talking about. There is a new place in building to left of where Jade Tree use to be which is called Healing Touches Therapy and is excellent. The ladies there are Tina, Lily and Michelle. Haven't met an Amy there.

Mustang946
04-16-16, 12:59
Jade Tree has been closed for at least 3 years, so not sure which place you are talking about. There is a new place in building to left of where Jade Tree use to be which is called Healing Touches Therapy and is excellent. The ladies there are Tina, Lily and Michelle. Haven't met an Amy there.There is also a Sasha there as well whom I had the pleasure of meeting this morning. Nice massage with OTC roaming, standard NOVA with hot towel cleanup. She is Chinese and speaks excellent English. She said she has been working there for three months.

KNockturnal
04-20-16, 12:09
So when my more regular masseuse didn't fit my time constraints I decided to hit up an AMP. Usually for consistency I'll go to either them+them or Sunday. Went to el sol and I'm so glad I did.

Provider: Mimi.

Personality: 8/10.

Body: 7/10 (small frame, cute face, nice rear, and workable headlights (b)).

GFE: doubt it, but working on it haha.

Experience: MMS remembered me after at least 6 mos, which is always a good thing. That's less convincing you have to do with the provider. Gave her a hug and reserved for the full hour. Order of operations seemed to have changed a bit. The massage came first and the table shower last. Let me say right off the bat, that this was one of the better massages I've ever had in one of these establishments. I usually tell them no back walking, but she even did that well, gentle even. She knew what she was doing. In fact sometime during, I asked her something and she replied, "I'm a professional honey. " The massage was great. The after party was also enjoyable. She was very active with the teasing and being sensual. After the massage "finished," I enjoyed a nice table shower. Afterwards she gave me a head and neck massage and helped me get dressed. Her english was pretty good. Once she and I got more comfortable she put me up on how they do things there. First she mentioned that they have regular clients that only come for massages so they try to be careful about what they assume. Next she mentioned that she is one of three new girls and they all have massage skill level equal to hers. She mentioned that protocol works better if you tip first. Just lay it on the table and the provider will know what level of service you require. Amounts are as follows:

40 standard NOVA.

60 Headlight play.

80 Full body play.

$$ DATY (she said 69 but experience tells me it's probably a faux blow on her part).

The guesswork has made some AMPs in the past a somewhat regrettable experience. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Forest Gump. Hopefully Sun has changed the game.

Crankcase
04-24-16, 15:09
I decided to find a few more waypoints in the area. My local provider was booked, so I headed to a 'stellar' establishment in Centreville right off of Rtes 28 & 29. MMS answered door in office park area. Door feels a bit 'public' but was answered quickly. I asked who was providing massages, and she said it would be 5 minutes or so.

Rooms standard, pretty clean, towels and tables standard.

A tiny (under 5' woman came in. I found her attitude and demeanor delightful and appearance was pleasing. Set up full hour, TS.

Massage above average, TS well above average, and an enthusiastic finish with OTC moving towards some glimpses of headlights as well. Excellent finishing skills from someone who looks like she enjoys her job. Std NoVa. . 8 + . 5.

Returned the following week, asked for Jxxxy by name. Same as above, but she was much, much friendlier and amenable to ideas. I did not pursue the menu fully. Left a bit bigger tip for the unexpectedly and appreciably improved service.

I will return here happily. If Chantilly has TS at the front of Robt Paris Ct, I would probably favor that, but. It is tough to choose only one.

Crankcase
04-24-16, 15:17
I was in Centreville late afternoon Friday and there were no openings at because.

I decided to try River to see if my mileage was better than others. No better, but no worse is what I found.

It was 'OK' - nothing bad. On all fronts. I hadn't expected a TS, so that was OK. The average (ish.) provider had some interesting ideas on what is supposed to be interesting for the finish. Not painful, but just not a 'um hmmmm. Happy. ' Sort of feeling. I wondered if she had done this before. Willing enough, but not skilled. . 6 HH + . 4.

I would probably skip this and opt for a quiet night if it was River or nothing, if this was typical.

I guess I will call ahead for my other, preferred, providers.

Bashar
04-26-16, 16:13
Anyone been there lately?

JazonArgos15
04-26-16, 20:48
The sirens lured others questing for a great massage to disappointment -- promising much and delivering nothing.

Monday's quest was for a great shower and a great massage. This Argonaut sought a gentle lady with great hands, and a fair face, and again found Vicky.

If the young / younger sirens are what interest you, you are best to quest elsewhere.

However, if the massage is important, and you remember to be polite (the term gentleman is appropriate), you might find, as I have, an island oasis.

For those with wit, the answers are the subject -- others may ask the Delphi (or send me a PM).

Still on the odyssey, but more relaxed now than I was before Monday's massaggi (standard rates and tip).

JasonArgos15.

Krakatoa
04-26-16, 23:41
So when my more regular masseuse didn't fit my time constraints I decided to hit up an AMP. Usually for consistency I'll go to either them+them or Sunday. Went to el sol and I'm so glad I did.

Provider: Mimi.

Personality: 8/10.

Body: 7/10 (small frame, cute face, nice rear, and workable headlights (b)).

GFE: doubt it, but working on it haha.

Experience: MMS remembered me after at least 6 mos, which is always a good thing. That's less convincing you have to do with the provider. Gave her a hug and reserved for the full hour. Order of operations seemed to have changed a bit. The massage came first and the table shower last. Let me say right off the bat, that this was one of the better massages I've ever had in one of these establishments. I usually tell them no back walking, but she even did that well, gentle even. She knew what she was doing. In fact sometime during, I asked her something and she replied, "I'm a professional honey. " The massage was great. The after party was also enjoyable. She was very active with the teasing and being sensual. After the massage "finished," I enjoyed a nice table shower. Afterwards she gave me a head and neck massage and helped me get dressed. Her english was pretty good. Once she and I got more comfortable she put me up on how they do things there. First she mentioned that they have regular clients that only come for massages so they try to be careful about what they assume. Next she mentioned that she is one of three new girls and they all have massage skill level equal to hers. She mentioned that protocol works better if you tip first. Just lay it on the table and the provider will know what level of service you require. Amounts are as follows:

40 standard NOVA.

60 Headlight play.

80 Full body play.

$$ DATY (she said 69 but experience tells me it's probably a faux blow on her part).

The guesswork has made some AMPs in the past a somewhat regrettable experience. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Forest Gump. Hopefully Sun has changed the game.Thank you KNockturnal! Your detailed report made it possible for me to reconnect with my ATF AMP gal, whom I thought I would never see again. Yes folks, this is Mimi from ATMB. Isn't she a charmer?

Serpico99
04-27-16, 16:28
I stopped by the old "capitol" off of Church rd. In eastern Loudoun, just to see if things changed since I last been there about 2 years ago or so. Nope still the same ole' same ole (as the provider gave a very good legit massage). My provider was on the chubby side, nothing to write home about. She was probing me, in a flirty way, with questions on what I did for work, asked me if I had any babies (LOL), etc. Maybe she was feeling me out. I didn't see anyone else there so I think it's a one-woman operation. Damage was 40 for 30 min. They don't advertise on CL the 30 min. Option, for whatever reason, maybe to ward off uncle LEO. Their ad can be found on CL.

I missed this place when Judy was there and running it. Not sure where she went or what happened a couple of years ago when Judy closed down suddenly.

If anyone has tried the place down the road, near Orbital, backchannel if you could.

LosMax
04-28-16, 00:33
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658/20693153

Went back twice since last time. Didn't see Nicole but her laos partner. Little older but much better body. Massage was legit, felt like the real deal. First time back she give me a BBBJ with cim, second time she started with a BBBJ then just got in a reverse cow girl position and started rubbing my cock on her pussy. She seemed very into it. Slipped on a condom and went right in. Very tight and started to cream. Then went on to 69. It was perfect.

Brilliant7
04-29-16, 21:39
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658/20693153

Went back twice since last time. Didn't see Nicole but her laos partner. Little older but much better body. Massage was legit, felt like the real deal. First time back she give me a BBBJ with cim, second time she started with a BBBJ then just got in a reverse cow girl position and started rubbing my cock on her pussy. She seemed very into it. Slipped on a condom and went right in. Very tight and started to cream. Then went on to 69. It was perfect.You did not mention her name. Did she answer the phone or did Nicole answer? How did you end up the Nicole's partner?

I had a really nice experience with Nicole a couple of weeks ago. It was good enough to merit a repeat, but the phone went to voice mail for several days, last week. So, I could not schedule a repeat performance. I would like try Nicole's partner, based on your report.

KNockturnal
04-30-16, 09:42
Thank you KNockturnal! Your detailed report made it possible for me to reconnect with my ATF AMP gal, whom I thought I would never see again. Yes folks, this is Mimi from ATMB. Isn't she a charmer?Glad I could be of assistance Krakatoa! She is a gem.

NovaCane
04-30-16, 10:23
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658/20693153

Went back twice since last time. Didn't see Nicole but her laos partner. Little older but much better body. Massage was legit, felt like the real deal. First time back she give me a BBBJ with cim, second time she started with a BBBJ then just got in a reverse cow girl position and started rubbing my cock on her pussy. She seemed very into it. Slipped on a condom and went right in. Very tight and started to cream. Then went on to 69. It was perfect.What was the damage for that kind of service?

Tom McAn
04-30-16, 12:47
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-erotic-massage-nice-touch-703-887-4658/20693153

Went back twice since last time. Didn't see Nicole but her laos partner. Little older but much better body. Massage was legit, felt like the real deal. First time back she give me a BBBJ with cim, second time she started with a BBBJ then just got in a reverse cow girl position and started rubbing my cock on her pussy. She seemed very into it. Slipped on a condom and went right in. Very tight and started to cream. Then went on to 69. It was perfect.At one time Nicole partnered with Cristine. I've tried to contact Cristine previously but never got through. I wasn't aware she provided that level of service. Of course, it's possible Nicole could be working with someone else these days.

Nicole left me unimpressed when I visited her a few months back, but I may have to check out her partner if the donation isn't unreasonable. Is there an ad to which you can link?

Jim Rob
05-02-16, 07:21
I was a huge fan of hers last year, but the place seemed to change management and she left. Does anyone know what happen to her and if she's still working.

She had several tats with huge tits with the biggest nipples in the industry.

MeeGook
05-02-16, 13:00
Saw Nicole last week. I was in the "bedroom". Went early afternoon and seemed like I was the only one there. No issues with other people coming into the room or strange noises.

As others have reported, Nicole is a sweet asian MILF. Imo on par with Cristine in looks and massage. Her ending is a little more erotic than Cristine's.

Am thinking to try sharon would be interested in a comparison if anyone has seen them both.

Stay safe.