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Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?
Happy Guy 2
04-02-15, 02:23
Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?Depending on provider, they can be pretty much all the same. I asked one and that is what she said!
Go to post 7960 in this thread for a goodexperience. No FS but you will leave very educated.
Happy Guy 2.
Member #4911
04-03-15, 21:04
...I will be in Warrenton / Culpeper and will have some time and wonder if there is any current info...
Warrenton has two places. Lily's Spa (old Vivi location second floor elevator ride), and Vivi (new location near the Food Lion shopping center). Both have a 0. 7 entry fee paid up front, table shower, mileage varies on the roaming, not sure about NOVA anymore, add a 0.2 to 0. 4 tip for their time and attentiveness unless some other amount is warranted, both establishments are well kept and have a very nice appearance, tables, sheets, towels all appear good and clean, the gals sometimes protest if they think more tip is warranted, and I have also heard them say that 0.5 is typical, which I have paid if I felt warranted, but hold your ground if justified in your mind, I will banter with them a bit if they ask for more, "I'll take it (my hand held out)", after a pause, they may counter with "you bring more next time", "you treat me better next time", "you too cheap", "bye-bye", and then I may try for a hug to see how upset they are, which ranges from folded arms to a hug, so far I have been welcomed back on return visits, but have not visited them in a long time, so my info is dated and YMMV, but my guess is one or both will be your 'odds on favorite' in the area if the price is reasonable.
Culpeper has two places, Royal spa on south E st, and the Zen Reflex spa on Main Street. Both have a 0. 45 entry fee (introductory price that continues to hold), no / no table shower, mileage varies on the roaming by the gal and no/no NOVA, 0. 1 to 0. 2 tip for their time and attentiveness. The massage varies at E second, ask for Cindy who is the best there IMHO (unless the old lady returns), big rooms with doors, the place is somewhat a dump in appearances, but table, sheets, towels all seem good and clean, racks to hang your clothes on are falling apart, but do the job, the guy offered me a massage once when the gal was busy, but I politely refused and left, funds is collected at the end by the guy who is usually there, but Cindy sometimes collects herself. The massage on Main St by the gal with curled hair is very good, don't know her name, she's been the only gal there during my visits, they now have a place to hang your clothes on wall hooks, still curtain partitions, unsure about original post of sessions being recorded, but I don't think so, I looked up several times and saw nothing abnormal, still uses an egg timer, funds is collected at the end by the guy if there, or the gal.
Have a good one // SS.
Warrenton has two places. Lily's Spa (old Vivi location second floor elevator ride), and Vivi (new location near the Food Lion shopping center). Both have a 0. 7 entry fee paid up front, table shower, mileage varies on the roaming, not sure about NOVA anymore, add a 0.2 to 0. 4 tip for their time and attentiveness unless some other amount is warranted, both establishments are well kept and have a very nice appearance, tables, sheets, towels all appear good and clean, the gals sometimes protest if they think more tip is warranted, and I have also heard them say that 0.5 is typical, which I have paid if I felt warranted, but hold your ground if justified in your mind, I will banter with them a bit if they ask for more, "I'll take it (my hand held out)", after a pause, they may counter with "you bring more next time", "you treat me better next time", "you too cheap", "bye-bye", and then I may try for a hug to see how upset they are, which ranges from folded arms to a hug, so far I have been welcomed back on return visits, but have not visited them in a long time, so my info is dated and YMMV, but my guess is one or both will be your 'odds on favorite' in the area if the price is reasonable.
Culpeper has two places, Royal spa on south E st, and the Zen Reflex spa on Main Street. Both have a 0. 45 entry fee (introductory price that continues to hold), no / no table shower, mileage varies on the roaming by the gal and no/no NOVA, 0. 1 to 0. 2 tip for their time and attentiveness. The massage varies at E second, ask for Cindy who is the best there IMHO (unless the old lady returns), big rooms with doors, the place is somewhat a dump in appearances, but table, sheets, towels all seem good and clean, racks to hang your clothes on are falling apart, but do the job, the guy offered me a massage once when the gal was busy, but I politely refused and left, funds is collected at the end by the guy who is usually there, but Cindy sometimes collects herself. The massage on Main St by the gal with curled hair is very good, don't know her name, she's been the only gal there during my visits, they now have a place to hang your clothes on wall hooks, still curtain partitions, unsure about original post of sessions being recorded, but I don't think so, I looked up several times and saw nothing abnormal, still uses an egg timer, funds is collected at the end by the guy if there, or the gal.
Have a good one // SS.Hey Rod, Thanks for taking the time to post such comprehensive info. I ended up at Royal a couple of days ago and got an older very attractive conservatively dressed
curly black short-haired gal. I got a wonderful good massage, carefully done. Her massage strokes had a nice slower strong pace that gave me some optimism. As I was laying there I thought this is
worth it, in and of itself, which is a good thing as that was all it was. She spoke and understood virtually no English. I think her 5 word vocabulary included: OK, Nice, You like, Thanks-you.
I paid the man as I left and gave her a tip for being nice. . 45 +. 20 = . 65.
I will likely not return. Using the Dos Equis metaphor: I don't always do massage, but when I do I prefer Happy Ending.
GuyInTheCorner
04-05-15, 23:49
Decided to take a stroll through the garden on Saturday. The one near the pine tree. Stopped at the pine tree first but no one answered, so I decided to relax in the garden.
Very clean and professional looking establishment. Licenses clearly visible. Large true massage tables.
I met a very attractive, thin, and older but youthful-looking mamasan. She seemed to be the only one there. I opted for a one hour stay. Very warm, sudsy, and attentive table shower to clean me up to start.
Massage was good. She did excellent work on my feet. She did the backwalking thing but I have come to realize I really just don't like it. A really nice finish. Either I sent the wrong signals or she was a fan of rosebuds, but either way it worked.
I would strongly consider heading there again.
Blue Star11
04-07-15, 18:02
Was greeted and serviced by MMS. Massage was great while being asked the typical LE questions: Where are you from, have you been here before, have you had massage before, from where? I passed.
Got Sunny, Fairly good looking Asian girl. She is great with her hands, though, and she really put the hand of God on my body. I felt renewed and reformed by the time she was done with me.
Highly recommend. Good service with no rushing!
Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?Depends on the provider as some have coined the terms but don't actually provide what they market. Nuru is supposed to have a body gel and they rub you by using their body against yours. There was one or two providers that advertised nuru about a year ago and it seemed like they were legit. I did not visit.
Tantra is a mental thing. So like finding your inner self through meditation and sexual exploration. S I saw one lady that is in Reston. She moved overseas but comes back every few months. She posts her ads so you should be able to find her if your intrested. I didn't think it was worth it but I only saw her once.
Body to body could be nuru or just imply mutual touching but I haven't been to a place that said b2 b.
Report back if you explore.
The ultimate in FBSM is when you get a great massage and great extras. Unfortunately, it's not that often you find that combination and the result is you end up getting your massage fix and your extras fix separately. One problem with that approach is that it's more expensive so I'm always on the lookout for a good deal on the legit massage side because the FBSM prices don't usually change much. Just found this deal for legit massage and it happens to be at one of my favorite places.
http://gr.pn/1H7F7Jn
I've seen all the therapists at that spa and they're all cute, Chinese women in their 20's to 40's who give a great massage. Full disclosure. I'm a regular client but I have no financial stake in the place. My reason for posting is just to share good info at a (for today only) great price.
Please note that unless they extend, the deal expires at midnight tonight.
PM if you have any questions but please don't ask if any of the girls do extras because they don't. This post is strictly for those mongers who are looking for a good place to get their legit massage fix.
Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?Nuru: The real thing is pretty rare and tends to be on the expensive side. The set up is more involved (need a waterproof sheet or mattress) and authentic Nuru gel is not cheap. There also needs to be a shower available because the gel is super slippery and needs to be washed off after. And Nuru doesn't mean you'll get a better quality of extras. My last Nuru massage was a fully nude body to body slide but even with that there was limited touching allowed and a mediocre ending. IMHO, sometimes Nuru providers think the Nuru is all that's needed and don't put a lot of effort into the finish. Most of the Nuru that's currently advertised on BP is not the real thing and is just a marketing ploy to get you to call.
Tantra: IME, most providers who advertise Tantra are full of crap and have probably just read a little about it in a book or on a website. What you're likely to get, unless you really do your homework, is an overpriced FBSM (often fully clothed) with a lot of New Age talk about energy, breathing and Chakras. I've had a couple of authentic Tantra experiences in SFO and Santa Cruz, CA and they were good but not worth the money I paid. Unfortunately, like the Nuru providers, too often the Tantrikas don't focus on extras because they feel their real value is in helping you get in touch with yourself or in "releasing your blocked energy" and that those things are worth the higher $ they charge. They also may not be very good at massage and you may find yourself lying there for extended periods of time with them just talking or telling you to focus on your breathing. One final note is that true Tantra providers often require longer minimum sessions (2-3 hrs) which can get pretty expensive.
Body to Body: This just describes providers who get topless or fully nude and rub themselves on you in some fashion. Once again, it all depends on the quality of the massage and extras. Do your homework and you may be able to find some real gems at decent prices.
Bottom line: Whatever floats your boat but I don't recommend spending more $ for Nuru or Tantra unless you find a provider with good reviews for both the (real) Nuru or Tantra part as well as high marks for the extras. For regular FBSM, including body to body, my recommendation is to check the oThER site and this forum for recommendations and reviews.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
Nyhornet- I have been busy with business on the west coast, (just flew back in Thursday), I have yet to visit ZaZa. I definitely want to see her again. Is she still at the same place? If she is not, please pm as I would greatly appreciate it my friend. Thanks.
Propilot-Always check your six.Zaza moved to Chantilly a few years ago, and last year she moved on to a 'legit' massage location in Sterling. I visited her once. She doesn't give the same 'routine' at the end as she did before.
The ultimate in FBSM is when you get a great massage and great extras. Unfortunately, it's not that often you find that combination and the result is you end up getting your massage fix and your extras fix separately. One problem with that approach is that it's more expensive so I'm always on the lookout for a good deal on the legit massage side because the FBSM prices don't usually change much. Just found this deal for legit massage and it happens to be at one of my favorite places.
http://gr.pn/1H7F7Jn
I've seen all the therapists at that spa and they're all cute, Chinese women in their 20's to 40's who give a great massage. Full disclosure. I'm a regular client but I have no financial stake in the place. My reason for posting is just to share good info at a (for today only) great price.
Please note that unless they extend, the deal expires at midnight tonight.
PM if you have any questions but please don't ask if any of the girls do extras because they don't. This post is strictly for those mongers who are looking for a good place to get their legit massage fix.While everything I said about this spa is true, I wrongly thought the discount applied to their regular massage but instead discovered (as I went to buy for myself) that it was only for reflexology. That makes it not so much of a good deal. My bad. . . Apologies to the forum.
Almost didn't want to give this review because I hate to see a good thing get burned. But, having seen many of others reviews on here, it seems only fair.
I've been to about half a dozen local AMP and by far, this is my favorite place. I don't understand half the lingo used on this forum, so just going to speak plainly.
I can't find a recent ad for this place but its in Woodbridge on Opitz.
Exterior.
- Parking: Plenty of parking because it's in an office / dental / doctor type complex. Safe area.
- Entrance: The sign on the door says "Massage" and the windows / doors are otherwise covered. As mentioned, the complex is a little busy because of the other offices.
Interior.
- Cleanliness: Rooms and entrance are clean and well kept. Never noticed an odor or trash.
- Shower Room: Dunno, I shower beforehand.
- Sauna: and / A.
- Water Temperature: and / A.
- Air Temperature: They've got small heaters in each room and typically keep it around 75 degrees or so. It's always comfortable.
- Bathroom: Eh, it's a bathroom. Nothing special.
- Sheets / Towels: The tables are massage tables and I can tell the top "sheet" is new because they rip the hole for the face when you enter. Who knows about the towels underneath. I have seen a washing machine in one of the rooms previously when walking past an open door.
- Room Privacy: The rooms are actual rooms with doors and walls that go the entire way to the ceilings. I've been in other AMPs where I could hear what was going on in other rooms; that's not the case here.
- Final Amenities: They always offer a bottle of water when you roll out.
There are two girls that work there. The first time I went I had Amy, a early 40 ish yo Asian girl who is maybe a 6, speaks little to no English and gives a good massage. I always get light ones with oil and am buck naked, minus the towel covering my backside, when they start. That way they know early on I'm not a LEO. She explores well and on the flip, gets down to business. On the first visit, she allowed OTC roaming but has since allowed me to road UTC and give a little mouth love to the tits. No rush on the ending.
I went again this week and Amy wasn't available so I had Sasha (I think). She's a late 30 yo, 7-8 with a cute body. Her massage didn't roam quite as massage but was still good. On the flip, she roamed and when it was time to get down to business, she didn't rush at all. She really took her time and it was excellent; she allowed OTC roaming as well. She seemed very into it. It was nice for a NOVA ending for sure and I hope I get her next time, though Amy is good to.
$70 for an hour and usually tip 40-50.
I'm to lazy to proofread this so don't mind spelling / grammatical errors.
JoeMuckInFutch
04-10-15, 12:33
I have to be in the area on business and will be staying in a hotel very close to Dulles. Time will be tight so I don't have the ability to travel far from where I'm staying. I'm looking for a MP very close to Dulles that will provide a good, stress relieving experience. From reading this forum it does not sound like FS is on the table (pun intended). What are your best suggestions?
Alternately, if someone has a suggestion about a FS MILF experience, that would be welcome too.
I'm from up north and will be happy to return the favor. PM or public as appropriate.
Thanks.
Almost didn't want to give this review because I hate to see a good thing get burned. But, having seen many of others reviews on here, it seems only fair.
I've been to about half a dozen local AMP and by far, this is my favorite place. I don't understand half the lingo used on this forum, so just going to speak plainly.
I can't find a recent ad for this place but its in Woodbridge on Opitz.
Exterior.
- Parking: Plenty of parking because it's in an office / dental / doctor type complex. Safe area.
- Entrance: The sign on the door says "Massage" and the windows / doors are otherwise covered. As mentioned, the complex is a little busy because of the other offices.
Interior.
- Cleanliness: Rooms and entrance are clean and well kept. Never noticed an odor or trash.
- Shower Room: Dunno, I shower beforehand.
- Sauna: and / A.
- Water Temperature: and / A.
- Air Temperature: They've got small heaters in each room and typically keep it around 75 degrees or so. It's always comfortable.
- Bathroom: Eh, it's a bathroom. Nothing special.
- Sheets / Towels: The tables are massage tables and I can tell the top "sheet" is new because they rip the hole for the face when you enter. Who knows about the towels underneath. I have seen a washing machine in one of the rooms previously when walking past an open door.
- Room Privacy: The rooms are actual rooms with doors and walls that go the entire way to the ceilings. I've been in other AMPs where I could hear what was going on in other rooms; that's not the case here.
- Final Amenities: They always offer a bottle of water when you roll out.
There are two girls that work there. The first time I went I had Amy, a early 40 ish yo Asian girl who is maybe a 6, speaks little to no English and gives a good massage. I always get light ones with oil and am buck naked, minus the towel covering my backside, when they start. That way they know early on I'm not a LEO. She explores well and on the flip, gets down to business. On the first visit, she allowed OTC roaming but has since allowed me to road UTC and give a little mouth love to the tits. No rush on the ending.
I went again this week and Amy wasn't available so I had Sasha (I think). She's a late 30 yo, 7-8 with a cute body. Her massage didn't roam quite as massage but was still good. On the flip, she roamed and when it was time to get down to business, she didn't rush at all. She really took her time and it was excellent; she allowed OTC roaming as well. She seemed very into it. It was nice for a NOVA ending for sure and I hope I get her next time, though Amy is good to.
$70 for an hour and usually tip 40-50.
I'm to lazy to proofread this so don't mind spelling / grammatical errors.This is an excellent review. Plain English is fine. All of us now know what to expect when we go so very good job. I know some want very detailed info but I'm more of a "less is more" type of guy: give the obvious details that it's a stress relieving place, extras, location, provider name when available or at least description, and I'll handle the rest. I don't mind taking one for the team because odds are 8/9 out of 10 it will be standard in NOVA. I also appreciate bad reviews or warnings of places to avoid: spas with dirty towels (sorry guys, I know my hygiene, not yours), mean / complaining women, or any other issue that could affect my general well-being.
Forgot. I really appreciate info, in any respect, about neighborhoods being safe.
Then again, that's my 2 cents. Worth the paper it was written on and it wasn't.
I have to be in the area on business and will be staying in a hotel very close to Dulles. Time will be tight so I don't have the ability to travel far from where I'm staying. I'm looking for a MP very close to Dulles that will provide a good, stress relieving experience. From reading this forum it does not sound like FS is on the table (pun intended). What are your best suggestions?
Alternately, if someone has a suggestion about a FS MILF experience, that would be welcome too.
I'm from up north and will be happy to return the favor. PM or public as appropriate.
Thanks.I sent you a couple of leads, although Dulles is a bit outside my zone. You might also get additional response (s) if you advise whether you'll have access to a car and whether outcall to your hotel is a possibility.
There are additional options in Chantilly, Reston, Herndon, etc. But it's tough to recommend those without knowing how far you're able to roam.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
I sent you a couple of leads, although Dulles is a bit outside my zone. You might also get additional response (s) if you advise whether you'll have access to a car and whether outcall to your hotel is a possibility.
There are additional options in Chantilly, Reston, Herndon, etc. But it's tough to recommend those without knowing how far you're able to roam.
Happy hunting and stay safe!JM,
Send me a few as I'm back in this hell hole for a week or so LOL.
Anyhow, hope your hunting is going good.
PC out.
JoeMuckInFutch
04-12-15, 13:34
I sent you a couple of leads, although Dulles is a bit outside my zone. You might also get additional response (s) if you advise whether you'll have access to a car and whether outcall to your hotel is a possibility.
There are additional options in Chantilly, Reston, Herndon, etc. But it's tough to recommend those without knowing how far you're able to roam.
Happy hunting and stay safe!Thanks. I have a car, just not a lot of free time. That's why I want it to be close. Outcall not an option.
Zaza moved to Chantilly a few years ago, and last year she moved on to a 'legit' massage location in Sterling. I visited her once. She doesn't give the same 'routine' at the end as she did before.Funsex, it's ok with me that Zaza has moved on to a "legit " massage location. I'm also ok that she does not give the same routine at the end that she used to give before. She is a sweet girl and a good friend, and it would just be nice to see her again.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Funsex, it's ok with me that Zaza has moved on to a "legit " massage location. I'm also ok that she does not give the same routine at the end that she used to give before. She is a sweet girl and a good friend, and it would just be nice to see her again.
Propilot-Always check your six.I just PMed you her info. Have a good time.
Ted Williams
04-13-15, 16:51
I made an appt w / Kandi in hurndon (C+C) based on other mongers suggestions this time instead of June. Kandi seems a bit younger than June, slightly shorter, cuter face, smaller cup size (more natural there, June has silicone), and flat rear. The building has parking in front and side and the entrance is discreet as its in back of building for those unfamiliar. There is two door entrance with bell. Place is clean with no overwhelming odor. The shower area / table is clean and the room and water temp are fine. This is not the case in the winter time as it's very cold so please be aware. There is no sauna. I didn't use the bathroom. Towels seem fresh and are changed before leaving. They were also using laundry machine when I was leaving. (noticed them folding lots of towels) There are actual rooms with doors that fully close for privacy. Bottle water is offered at end and so is hand sanitizer.
As for massage I will say Kandi is very firm and does well. I felt like jello when she was done with the back walking, knees, and elbows. The massage was so thorough that the flip was a little short and the soft touch last briefly as we went to close to the hour. I had to finish too quickly, but it was still a happy ending. Roaming was permitted, but the firm massage was the focus for her and left small opportunity for the flip / soft touch. If you want a firm massage she is the choice here.
Good Day.
I just PMed you her info. Have a good time.Thank you my friend. I owe you a beer.
Propilot-Always check your six.
JoeMuckInFutch
04-16-15, 15:01
Had a nice visit in Herndon on Sunset, I think it was. K-girl, young, 5'6" with beautiful Bees.
Based on the intel posted, went to pay a visit to see+see. Was closed. Anyone know if they got shut down or just taking a break?
Ended up at RTC on Sunset and drew a nice looking Korean girl with wavy black hair and great personality. Sorry fellows, got stupid and forgot to get her name.
Back walk was excellent, but other than that massage was weak. Ending was very nice standard and not sure if more was on the table. Didn't ask. Roaming was encouraged.
$80 at the door, and she bitched about $50 tip. I told her when you get stronger hands talk to me, other wise give the tip back or shut it. She was not happy, but at least she didn't do the mood kill negotiation up front.
Zaza moved to Chantilly a few years ago, and last year she moved on to a 'legit' massage location in Sterling. I visited her once. She doesn't give the same 'routine' at the end as she did before.I've thought about going to see Zaza at her new place, but wasn't sure how she feels about seeing old customers, even though we had a friendly relationship. Did she seem fine with you showing up?
JTreehorn14
04-18-15, 15:20
I made an appt w / Kandi in hurndon (C+C) based on other mongers suggestions this time instead of June. Kandi seems a bit younger than June, slightly shorter, cuter face, smaller cup size (more natural there, June has silicone).I love her tiny boobs. My second time with her involved ample nursing.
I received a PM a few weeks ago from a respected senior in which he said he received a surprise NOVA finish at EW. I happened to be in the area last week with some time to kill so I thought I would give them a try. Unfortunately the masseuse from the report was no longer there so I opted for the 49.99 soft swedish special with a different masseuse. No joy from that therapist so I then decided to give the other one a whirl. Did a second hour of deep tissue but once again everything was totally legit with no hint of extras.
Both masseuses were probably in their late 30's to mid 40's and were the only two working. So, unless someone else has a recent experience with a different result, my conclusion is that no extras are on the menu at this place. On the positive side, both massages were very good and worth the $ spent. And even though I prefer a deeper massage, the soft swedish was pretty good.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
I've thought about going to see Zaza at her new place, but wasn't sure how she feels about seeing old customers, even though we had a friendly relationship. Did she seem fine with you showing up?Whatever reasons Zaza had for switching to legit massage, one definite result is that she makes less per customer. I haven't made the visit yet because it's a little far for me, but my guess is she would appreciate business from former clients as long as they are polite and respectful of her decisions and her new situation.
If you do pay her a visit, let us know how it went.
P.S. All of the above also applies to Magic, who has also made the transition to legit-only.
Whatever reasons Zaza had for switching to legit massage, one definite result is that she makes less per customer. I haven't made the visit yet because it's a little far for me, but my guess is she would appreciate business from former clients as long as they are polite and respectful of her decisions and her new situation.
If you do pay her a visit, let us know how it went.
P.S. All of the above also applies to Magic, who has also made the transition to legit-only.I had heard that Magic got married, which would explain selling her place and going legit. I also had heard there may have been some legal problems as far as proper licensing to work, from home, but don't know if that is fact. Zaza being the sweet lady she is may have just tired of the whole deal, plus not having a place to host. I had wondered if she might reunite with KK, but didn't happen.
I received a PM a few weeks ago from a respected senior in which he said he received a surprise NOVA finish at EW. I happened to be in the area last week with some time to kill so I thought I would give them a try. Unfortunately the masseuse from the report was no longer there so I opted for the 49.99 soft swedish special with a different masseuse. No joy from that therapist so I then decided to give the other one a whirl. Did a second hour of deep tissue but once again everything was totally legit with no hint of extras.
Both masseuses were probably in their late 30's to mid 40's and were the only two working. So, unless someone else has a recent experience with a different result, my conclusion is that no extras are on the menu at this place. On the positive side, both massages were very good and worth the $ spent. And even though I prefer a deeper massage, the soft swedish was pretty good.
Happy hunting and stay safe!I almost went to East Wing today, too, as I know the owner and she gives a great, but only therapeutic massage. Ms he is the person shown in her ad. There used to be a lady there a couple of years ago, that would be more fun, but she's been gone for quite some time. EW remains a good spot for a nice massage, but nothing else. Of course you never know when he new staff member, might provide more.
This place used to be my main haunt, but I lost interest after my ATF Mimi left. Recently I noticed they started advertising again, so I thought I would check it out. Lo and behold, Mimi is back and starring in the role of Mamasan. This seemed incongruous to me, as she is not that old and in my opinion still gorgeous, but fortunately she still sees her regulars.
More interesting for most of you cats is that all the old ladies who used to work there are gone and have been replaced by a crop of young providers. Mimi introduced me to a bona fide 27 year old and said the other two new girls are in their twenties and thirties, respectively.
If you're a discount shopper, this may not be the place for you, but the service has always been excellent, and the new talent looks promising.
Visited a new place on the corner of Columbia pike and glebe and found on the usual site. This place is 100% legit. I've been twice and no extras were provided. Save your cash for somewhere else. $. 6 for half hour and the massage is not that good.
Headed down to see this provider http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/simply-e-xquisit-e-massage-see-website-private-studio/6999790. judging from the ad I should have known that that's not a good idea. She was a bit strange (photos depict that). She took me downstairs and her place smelled like cat piss. Gave me a mediocre massage and had a huge bowl of oil or something. Made me wonder how many other dude's skin and god knows what else was in that bowl. She gave me the flip but no roaming whatsoever. Wouldn't let me see anything. Would not repeat. Looks 3/10 massage 4/10.
Headed down to see this provider http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/simply-e-xquisit-e-massage-see-website-private-studio/6999790. judging from the ad I should have known that that's not a good idea. She was a bit strange (photos depict that). She took me downstairs and her place smelled like cat piss. Gave me a mediocre massage and had a huge bowl of oil or something. Made me wonder how many other dude's skin and god knows what else was in that bowl. She gave me the flip but no roaming whatsoever. Wouldn't let me see anything. Would not repeat. Looks 3/10 massage 4/10.Got a name, number or some other way of identifying her? Sounds like she's someone to steer well clear of.
Sorry you had a crap session but thanks for TOFTT and even more for the warning!
BuckshotWatson
04-24-15, 09:56
Got a name, number or some other way of identifying her? Sounds like she's someone to steer well clear of.
Sorry you had a crap session but thanks for TOFTT and even more for the warning!I think it is Nena in Woodbridge. Never seen her, but heard she is weird. Link works if you delete the period at the end:
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/simply-e-xquisit-e-massage-see-website-private-studio/6999790
I think it is Nena in Woodbridge. Never seen her, but heard she is weird. Link works if you delete the period at the end:
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/simply-e-xquisit-e-massage-see-website-private-studio/6999790Forgot about the extra period that gets added by the forum software.
About Nena, I had considered a visit, even with her no touching policy, since she has reviews on the oThER site that say her massage is pretty good. But if her massage is subpar (and that bowl of oil report is pretty creepy) then what's the point?
Thanks to AznVrep for the heads up as it certainly saved me some time and $.
DrivenHarder
04-24-15, 19:42
This place used to be my main haunt, but I lost interest after my ATF Mimi left. Recently I noticed they started advertising again, so I thought I would check it out. Lo and behold, Mimi is back and starring in the role of Mamasan. This seemed incongruous to me, as she is not that old and in my opinion still gorgeous, but fortunately she still sees her regulars.
More interesting for most of you cats is that all the old ladies who used to work there are gone and have been replaced by a crop of young providers. Mimi introduced me to a bona fide 27 year old and said the other two new girls are in their twenties and thirties, respectively.
If you're a discount shopper, this may not be the place for you, but the service has always been excellent, and the new talent looks promising.Just tried them today. It's been a long while since I've been. Perhaps 6 to 8 months long.
She wouldn't shut up. English wasn't a challenge for her. Seemed to carry a massive chip on her shoulder. Cussed a lot. Kept moaning about how she use to party and couldn't any more. How her body is falling apart. Which it is. While she was somewhat funny in a disgruntled stoner kind of way, it made it hard to relax. She wanted me to shoot in my mouth. Seriously. Actually stopped what she was doing and asked me to do it and wouldn't continue until I said yes. She negotiated with me until I said yes. Thankfully my control is good and I knew how to avoid it.
Don't go Wed. Sat. In all her talking I learned when the younger girls are there. Mon / Tues.
The massage sucked and the NOVA was the worst I've ever had. Erica was her name. (I think, started with an E. She mumbled a lot too.) She's got a belly to boot. Ugh.
AMPs are my backup plan to being stoodup by "consultants" and this place just fell off my list. I could not be more pissed off about the experience. I should have walked but my smaller head was doing all the thinking.
She wanted me to shoot in my mouth. Seriously. Actually stopped what she was doing and asked me to do it and wouldn't continue until I said yes. She negotiated with me until I said yes.LOL, what!
Just tried them today. It's been a long while since I've been. Perhaps 6 to 8 months long.
She wanted me to shoot in my mouth. Seriously. Actually stopped what she was doing and asked me to do it and wouldn't continue until I said yes. She negotiated with me until I said yes. Thankfully my control is good and I knew how to avoid it.Uuuhhhhhhhhhhh. Wha! I've heard stories but I'm blown away by this (No pun intended). My favorite part is not that she's controlling the negotiation or you agreeing to it (a show she should pay for!) but the fact that you were able to overcome adversity through your superior ejaculation skills. That's the saving grace, huh? Lmfao! "Yes! Whew! Thank goodness for that good control! Don't know how many times that saved my life in the Philippines. " Maybe if we all work on our negotiation skills we wouldn't have to "perform" heroic acts?
Sorry man, just busting on ya. LOL. (pun intended. I have no control!) .
That's pretty wild and hope you share more of your adventures.
Hi, anyone know what is going on the Massage Relax Center in Oakton?
The phone number is disconnected!
K.
I had heard that Magic got married, which would explain selling her place and going legit. I also had heard there may have been some legal problems as far as proper licensing to work, from home, but don't know if that is fact. Zaza being the sweet lady she is may have just tired of the whole deal, plus not having a place to host. I had wondered if she might reunite with KK, but didn't happen.Zaza doesn't go by zaza anymore. KK's place is completely legit now, too. Another Thai girl in Sterling also went legit. The trend is, almost all the Thai masseuses have gone legit. Good on them if they choose to do so.
Hi, anyone know what is going on the Massage Relax Center in Oakton?
The phone number is disconnected!
K.Closed, I'm looking for where they turn up as well.
Closed, I'm looking for where they turn up as well.There's a for lease sign in the window so doubtful they'll be reopening under "new" management at that location. Their website is also down but IIRC they also had a place in F'burg. If that's still in business then it might be possible to call and ask if they have any plans to open somewhere in this area.
Did a google search and this seems to be the place:
https://local.yahoo.com/info-167287236-massage-relax-ctr-llc-fredericksburg
ZebraSoile
04-26-15, 18:34
There's a for lease sign in the window so doubtful they'll be reopening under "new" management at that location. Their website is also down but IIRC they also had a place in F'burg. If that's still in business then it might be possible to call and ask if they have any plans to open somewhere in this area.
Did a google search and this seems to be the place:
https://local.yahoo.com/info-167287236-massage-relax-ctr-llc-fredericksburgTry massage-qi in Reston, off Reston Parkway, near USGS.
The massage sucked and the NOVA was the worst I've ever had. Erica was her name. (I think, started with an E. She mumbled a lot too.) She's got a belly to boot. Ugh.
Bro, I feel bad for leading you astray. I have not tried any of the new providers. The manager asked me to provide feedback, so I will pass along your comments.
Bossanova86
04-26-15, 22:09
Forgot about the extra period that gets added by the forum software.
About Nena, I had considered a visit, even with her no touching policy, since she has reviews on the oThER site that say her massage is pretty good. But if her massage is subpar (and that bowl of oil report is pretty creepy) then what's the point?
Thanks to AznVrep for the heads up as it certainly saved me some time and $.I saw her last week because I had been so bored Friday and wanted to try a new AMP. I wasn't really going to do a review, but because I see were talking about her now I guess I'll throw one out there.
Saw her Friday around 8 pm, her house is cluttered with all sorts of art and design decor, has a weird smell. Her studio is down in the basement and honestly wasn't all that bad. Her appearance as of right now, she hardly looks like what is depicted in the picture. She's shorter and fatter, face honestly is almost not even recognizable. I paid for a sensual session and got the most boring massage ever. Actually aggravating as she wouldn't shut up about weird religion and spiritual powers and reincarnation and how she's trying to get in contact with the government to discuss this crazy evidence she stumbled upon about Israel and Palestine located in the USA and how she's writing these books. At one point I thought I was going to be some sacrificial murder to her blood gods on Jupiter / Saturn or whatever. She kept talking needless to say and only until the flip did she began to quiet down a bit and gave me what I was really looking for. Her technique was good and based on the other board I was afraid she was just going to massage it and not actually do the "job". Well it didn't take long and I would say her skills were far better than I was expecting given the rest of the session.
TLDR: Massage horrible / so much lotion used / awful hard dry towel used to wipe most of it off. Above average rub, but suffer through weird personality and story.
I will not go back however as Woodbridge was honestly a bit of a track for me.
Is the got bust? Do not find any news! I missing my ATF girl Coco!
Closed, I'm looking for where they turn up as well.
I saw her last week because I had been so bored Friday and wanted to try a new AMP. I wasn't really going to do a review, but because I see were talking about her now I guess I'll throw one out there.
Saw her Friday around 8 pm, her house is cluttered with all sorts of art and design decor, has a weird smell. Her studio is down in the basement and honestly wasn't all that bad. Her appearance as of right now, she hardly looks like what is depicted in the picture. She's shorter and fatter, face honestly is almost not even recognizable. I paid for a sensual session and got the most boring massage ever. Actually aggravating as she wouldn't shut up about weird religion and spiritual powers and reincarnation and how she's trying to get in contact with the government to discuss this crazy evidence she stumbled upon about Israel and Palestine located in the USA and how she's writing these books. At one point I thought I was going to be some sacrificial murder to her blood gods on Jupiter / Saturn or whatever. She kept talking needless to say and only until the flip did she began to quiet down a bit and gave me what I was really looking for. Her technique was good and based on the other board I was afraid she was just going to massage it and not actually do the "job". Well it didn't take long and I would say her skills were far better than I was expecting given the rest of the session.
TLDR: Massage horrible / so much lotion used / awful hard dry towel used to wipe most of it off. Above average rub, but suffer through weird personality and story.
I will not go back however as Woodbridge was honestly a bit of a track for me.Sounds pretty bad overall. I understand there is a no touching policy, but am curious whether any visuals were provided. Thanks.
Laura Rager
04-27-15, 11:30
Got a name, number or some other way of identifying her? Sounds like she's someone to steer well clear of.
Sorry you had a crap session but thanks for TOFTT and even more for the warning!ALso, beware, she has a reputation of flipping out and threatening past customers.
Bossanova86
04-27-15, 18:53
Sounds pretty bad overall. I understand there is a no touching policy, but am curious whether any visuals were provided. Thanks.No visuals and based on other reviews of no touching and being yelled at I was very very cautious going forward. I let her do her thing. She was hardly pretty and honestly might be the first person I couldn't really see touching anyways.
Went out and saw joyce. As others have mentioned she's a bit off but I think its because she got busted before. When I went in I had my sunglasses on my head and she immediately pulled them off and inspected them. I'm guessing she was looking for a camera. After I stripped down she seemed to feel more at ease. I'd rate her a 6/10. She's younger and cuter than most providers you'll find in the area and she's all natural. Also seems like she's a cleanliness freak. Constantly wiping everything off with paper towels. I might repeat if I'm in the area. A bit of a drive for me now. Total damage $1. 2.
Anyone been to this spa in Chantilly lately? Used to be a great place under a different name years ago and shut down a few times. See it's open again as Mikos and wondering if staff are good. Always loved the atmosphere inside, was very classy. Anyone been there?
Went out and saw joyce. As others have mentioned she's a bit off but I think its because she got busted before. When I went in I had my sunglasses on my head and she immediately pulled them off and inspected them. I'm guessing she was looking for a camera. After I stripped down she seemed to feel more at ease. I'd rate her a 6/10. She's younger and cuter than most providers you'll find in the area and she's all natural. Also seems like she's a cleanliness freak. Constantly wiping everything off with paper towels. I might repeat if I'm in the area. A bit of a drive for me now. Total damage $1. 2.At least that's been my experience. The more comfortable she is with you the more open she is to gentle coaching about your particular likes / dislikes. On the cleanliness thing, I always tell her I just took a shower before seeing her (or I take a quick shower when I get there) and that seems to put her at ease quite a bit.
Hi. Hope all is well.
Where is ATMB? Thanks.
I decided to try a place that I hadn't been since it opened. I had a so-so experience last time, but decided to see if it had changed. I went to a place near Annandale that is named.
After one of the colors of the US Flag. Table shower was as it should be. Massage was amateur at best. Was actually annoying at times. Obviously not trained. She must have left the.
Room 4-5 times during the massage. Not sure what the heck she was doing. She would only leave for around a minute. During the flip she just sat there at the end, so I grabbed her hand.
And tried to put in the right place. She quickly pulled away. At first I though she was trying to be safe since she didn't know me, but after four attempts I could tell she was serious.
I began to touch her up top and she didn't seem to mind. That is when she said I had to finish myself. WTF? She did let me nurse as I finished. I figured I was already there, I had to.
Get some satisfaction. I tipped her. 2 and she asked for more. I said when you do more, you get more. I won't be going back to this place. I TOFFT.
Lovejugs.
Looking for any location that offers a steam room. Not dry sauna. Pm me if you know of a location.
Spa World in Centreville, VA and Seoul Spa in Security Blvd, Baltimore both have nice steam room and pool.
Looking for any location that offers a steam room. Not dry sauna. Pm me if you know of a location.
Hi. Hope all is well. Where is ATMB? Thanks.Lee Hwy, Arlington. Easy to Google.
At least that's been my experience. The more comfortable she is with you the more open she is to gentle coaching about your particular likes / dislikes. On the cleanliness thing, I always tell her I just took a shower before seeing her (or I take a quick shower when I get there) and that seems to put her at ease quite a bit.She had me laughing because before she gave me a BJ she sniffed him and looked at me and said "good".
HardToTame
05-01-15, 15:51
New location in springfield, new shower and k providers. Provider told me not to tell anyone about the place. 80/ hour 40/ tip. Scarlet is nice with some large balloons. Ok Message ok flip. Nothing more allowed. Name rythms with ducky.
Roamin Roman
05-02-15, 05:58
I decided to try a place that I hadn't been since it opened. I had a so-so experience last time, but decided to see if it had changed. I went to a place near Annandale that is named.
After one of the colors of the US Flag. Table shower was as it should be. Massage was amateur at best. Was actually annoying at times. Obviously not trained. She must have left the.
Room 4-5 times during the massage. Not sure what the heck she was doing. She would only leave for around a minute. During the flip she just sat there at the end, so I grabbed her hand.
And tried to put in the right place. She quickly pulled away. At first I though she was trying to be safe since she didn't know me, but after four attempts I could tell she was serious.
I began to touch her up top and she didn't seem to mind. That is when she said I had to finish myself. WTF? She did let me nurse as I finished. I figured I was already there, I had to.
Get some satisfaction. I tipped her. 2 and she asked for more. I said when you do more, you get more. I won't be going back to this place. I TOFFT.
Lovejugs.I think I know the place to which you're referring. I've reviewed it a couple times recently. Basically, I usually go there after working out and have always obtained a decent massage for sore muscles. It's always been my go-to place for that, since (at my age) I need a massage after a workout so I'll be able to move the next morning. Your report of a lackluster massage is unsettling. Because of recent travel, I've not been in a few weeks. That suggests that the personnel has changed, and I may have to find another place. As for the staff, they tend to be older women (40's to 50's), so you were never likely to find the hot spinners that are the normal topic of this forum. Sorry you had a disappointing time. However, there ARE places nearby that might be more to your liking. Send me a PM and I'll try to accommodate. Regards.
- Roman.
Hi. Hope all is well.
Where is ATMB? Thanks.http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-atmb-arlington-va-4057
Went to Elite Therapy in Alexandria. It's perhaps a month or two old. Like all spas in the area that receive generally or overwhelmingly good reviews, the truth is the exact opposite of what was reported. Providers well over 40, not attractive and the location is overly visible to traffic and businesses / homes nearby.
Wondering if anyone is familiar with this place. New to me. It looks like a generic AMP ad, but they advertise under Escorts.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-new-staff-provides-bodywork/17039910
Thank you.
http://www.rubmaps.com/erotic-massage-atmb-arlington-va-4057
FredBurgMike
05-05-15, 20:57
Just curious if anyone has done the four hand massage that many of the local AMPs are now offering. I have thought about giving it a try but not sure it is worth the money. Just wondering what you guys think.
Just curious if anyone has done the four hand massage that many of the local AMPs are now offering. I have thought about giving it a try but not sure it is worth the money. Just wondering what you guys think.YMMV. Er YMWV where W=will. I like a good four hand massage when done correctly, but often times in these AMPs you just get lackluster performance out of one or both. On the flip: some will leave it to one, others will swap back and forth as their arms tire out, others one will do the main business and the other will focus other areas.
Roamin Roman
05-06-15, 16:54
Just curious if anyone has done the four hand massage that many of the local AMPs are now offering. I have thought about giving it a try but not sure it is worth the money. Just wondering what you guys think.My inclination would be to decline that option. They're essentially a way for the AMP to obtain more of your monger funds for the same end result. Instead, why not try each pair of hands separately. Twice the fun for the about the same as a 4-handed massage.
One other thought about 4-handed massages: It could be that business at those AMPs is slow, and the 4-handed massage is a way of getting more work for their staff. Considering this possibility, what is the likely quality of that AMP?
Roman.
Roamin Roman
05-06-15, 16:58
Wondering if anyone is familiar with this place. New to me. It looks like a generic AMP ad, but they advertise under Escorts.
http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-new-staff-provides-bodywork/17039910It appears to be a new AMP. Bear in mind, another spa (TLC Medispa) previously occupied that location.
FWIW, the telephone number for the prior establishment was (703) XXX-3636.
Just curious if anyone has done the four hand massage that many of the local AMPs are now offering. I have thought about giving it a try but not sure it is worth the money. Just wondering what you guys think.I've been to several that claimed to do four hand with only a few actually providing. I think their goal is to offer a found hand and when you get there they say it's not available. But because your already there you go a head and stay.
The best was one that I reviewed several months ago and then went immediately down hill after that. I haven't found another good place since then.
Mongeroose
05-06-15, 22:18
Topless roaming and TS were included in my recent trip. Scarlet appears younger than the average local AMP provider to me. Did not see the rest.
New location in springfield, new shower and k providers. Provider told me not to tell anyone about the place. 80/ hour 40/ tip. Scarlet is nice with some large balloons. Ok Message ok flip. Nothing more allowed. Name rythms with ducky.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2015/0507/Why-Honolulu-police-charge-women-with-sexual-assault-not-prostitution
Some observations:
This tactic is being used in Hawaii and it's not clear if it will spread or if it will even be applicable to other states where the laws are different. But, since information like this is often shared between LEO agencies, I wouldn't be surprised if other areas adopted some variation of it.
This tactic specifically targets the ladies so while it will suck if your favorite AMP is shut down it shouldn't pose a threat to clients.
There's an inconsistency in the story itself because it defines sexual assault as touching the genitals without consent yet it also talks about an undercover LEO taking an AMP girl's hand and placing it on his own crotch. WTF, doesn't that constitute consent?
The main takeaway, IMHO, is that even in a relatively (AFAIK) tolerant and permissive place like Honolulu, LEO is still bending over backwards to go after consensual adult conduct.
Just curious if anyone has done the four hand massage that many of the local AMPs are now offering. I have thought about giving it a try but not sure it is worth the money. Just wondering what you guys think.Good question and would be interested in hearing from other members about their thoughts and experiences (best vs worst, AMP vs independent).
Let's take the cons first:
While some AMP girls deliver a pretty good massage, most aren't hired for their massage skills. Unless you've enjoyed a massage from both girls before, you're rolling the dice as far as the quality is concerned.
If one or both aren't very good, or if they're out of sync, or if they have very different styles, it probably won't live up to your expectations or the price you paid.
Since you're booking two girls for a full session, they usually want and expect a full tip (ex. 40 each). A client who only tips at their regular level in total (ex. 20 each) may think that's appropriate but should understand, from the masseuses' point of view, they may be seen as a cheapskate and that perception may affect future visits.
If the house fee isn't discounted, then that's more $ you've got in the game. If the session is underwhelming, your buyer's remorse will likely be higher.
As other seniors have noted, the offer may be nothing more than a lame marketing gimmick to get you to visit the AMP and you may be told they're too busy to do four-hand.
IME (and this is the biggest negative for me), with rare exceptions, AMP girls are less adventurous when there's another masseuse in the room. One simple reason for that is they see each other every day and AMP girls are notorious gossips about clients and each other. So a girl who, when she's alone with you, might allow UTC roaming or be open to oral options, may not be willing to go that far when one of her friends (or rivals) is present. That's not to say that surprises can't happen, but (IMHO) the odds are against it. Along those same lines, I think an AMP girl would be less likely to give you her private digits in that situation.
Pros:
If you've never done four-hand, it can be a lot of fun and a very different experience as long as you don't let your expectations get too high.
If the AMP is offering a significant discount on the house fee, it may be worth taking the plunge (but don't let yourself be tagged as a bad tipper).
It's not a bad way to check out the talent for future visits if it's a place you haven't visited before.
Travels are taking me to Fburg today and looking for a good massage with some fun this afternoon. I don't get away from the lady often, so want to take advantage of it. Any help is appreciated.
Went here thinking the girls in the pic look familiar.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-opening-the-best-and-gorgeous-therapists-magic-relaxation-call-703-488-8886/17866063
Slender girl, very good massage, that's all; I tried twice and she said no special massage her.
New location in springfield, new shower and k providers. Provider told me not to tell anyone about the place. 80/ hour 40/ tip. Scarlet is nice with some large balloons. Ok Message ok flip. Nothing more allowed. Name rythms with ducky.Just gave this place a try. Was a bit hard to find. My GPS was sending me to the wrong side of the street. All I can say is WOW! Top notch from start to finish. I saw Scarlett on the way out and you weren't kiding. If you like the last four letters of my name you will be in heaven. One of the best places I have been to in a long while. Seniors can PM, but keep the back and forth short. Don't want to waste my PM's. Guys keep major details off this site. Trust me, you don't want to see this place go. On a side note I saw an old white guy sitting in his car facing the building eating lunch. Peaked my interest, but didn't think much of it. He was still there when I left. Don't know if this is some whistle blower writing down descriptions and license numbers, but be careful just in case. Lovejugs.
Topless roaming and TS were included in my recent trip. Scarlet appears younger than the average local AMP provider to me. Did not see the rest.I drew Sky and went for a half, massage was short, some back walking, and the flip: UTC roaming to some youthful see's, age is on her side, for that reason I'd repeat.
BuckshotWatson
05-11-15, 10:08
Went here thinking the girls in the pic look familiar.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-opening-the-best-and-gorgeous-therapists-magic-relaxation-call-703-488-8886/17866063
Slender girl, very good massage, that's all; I tried twice and she said no special massage her.I've been in three or four times. As you note, very good massage that covers most of your body, but no endings. She's not either of the girls in the photo they use.
Upsell from start. 45 bucks meant light touch and boy was it light. Almost no touch all fingers.
Not going back and no happy or even close. NOVA still blows and not in a good way.
PC out.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/thai-relaxation-therapy-in-falls-church-tysons-corner-vienna/15439964
She made me wait a few minutes even though we agreed to a time. She barely spoke to me. The massage was decent. The flip was okay. There was an insane $100 upsell just to see something very standard. I opted not to pay because I am not crazy! She is pretty though. I wouldn't be seeing her again because of the upsell.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/thai-relaxation-therapy-in-falls-church-tysons-corner-vienna/15439964
She made me wait a few minutes even though we agreed to a time. She barely spoke to me. The massage was decent. The flip was okay. There was an insane $100 upsell just to see something very standard. I opted not to pay because I am not crazy! She is pretty though. I wouldn't be seeing her again because of the upsell.Thanks for the report. Had thought about visiting, but surely won't now. For that price, everything should be on the table, literally and figuratively.
Thanks for the report. Had thought about visiting, but surely won't now. For that price, everything should be on the table, literally and figuratively.No problem. I forgot to add that she shorted me on time by almost 20 minutes. I realized when I left. I did the 90 minutes option. The $100 upsell was just to see her chest.
I paid FS prices for a sub-nova experience. I learned my lesson!
Ted Williams
05-12-15, 11:35
I opted to visit Shantilly area. Lots of construction on road near Walney detoured me to Sully Circle and decided on Best. Parking in front and to side of building with typical business park surroundings. Note that another AMP close by looked closed. (I know this as Care therapy) I drew Mickey. 4/10 with looks and body. The visit was extremely lackluster and it was mainly due to major HVAC repairs. I ended up with a standard 30 min visit with roaming highly discouraged. I would return because I know there used to be better potential. I can't comment on most things like TS, room temp, bathroom, towels as the place was a mess with the HVAC contractor. This may be finished by now. I was headed to Miko, but the bridge was out and I was too lazy to due full detour. Also, I'm not too fond of a visit to Far East due to the business next door gawking at everything.
Good Day.
GuyInTheCorner
05-12-15, 13:21
Following up on the new place in Springfield. Drew Scarlett on a 30 min end of the evening massage. Place was pretty busy for 9 PM. She is gorgeous and has tremendous assets. She noted the other girls there are her age. Her English was very very good. Great place but its popularity makes me nervous.
Bossanova86
05-12-15, 18:22
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantra-tuesday-evening-appointments/17081963
Saw this lady Saturday, she was pretty straight forward and supposedly only started doing this for a few months now. She says she has a friend that works out in DC named China / Chyna or whatever, but I can't confirm this. She was nice on the phone and via texts, the place was her own personal apartment, but located just near the courthouse in Fairfax. Honestly it's a total shit box of an area and the parking is ruthless when it comes to potholes. Supposedly it's being taken down which makes a lot of sense given the current condition of the place. Anyways she was pretty cool, she's a Rangers fan which is a minus in my book (Caps all the way). She does this part time, the apartment is actually quite clean and done up well. She uses some non scented oils and does a fairly mediocre massage on the back, on the flip she gets really into the rub and seems to want you to bust on her chest, she seems to get a real kick out of that. Real enthusiasm from her, but when the business starts she also upsells a BBBJ and finish in her mouth which was a lot more expensive. I'd didn't bother as I wasn't really aiming for that and didn't have the extra dinero to coffer up. She's a decent lady, a bit on the older side probably in her early to mid 40's, but she has a decent body to boot. She lets you get roam around all over which is a good thing.
Would I go again? Hmmmm possibly. I wasn't left blown away though, but having seen her ad's the past few months my curiosity is what led me to go see her that day. I'll give it an 7/10 for those interested in a older, but cleaner white lady with a decent body and enthusiasm in the finish. EDIT: I should add that her rub technique isn't actually all that good and it took me a lot longer to provide the spunk so to speak. Her technique could use a lot of work.
Later after that session I went and got a real massage at River Spa which I'm sure a few of you are familiar with. The one behind Dunkin Donuts in Centreville, they have always been really good to me, table shower and massage generally a good quality and the finish afterwards is always decent for the price. I don't think I've ever reviewed them before, but I go there if I don't feel like going to the more established AMP's. I tend to cycle through three different ladies and they all seem to recognize me at this point and don't bother with the LE awkward check towards the end.
I have been on this site for 11 years!! Just got done reading old post and boy those where the days! It's seems now all the AMPs are run by very old grandmothers who smoke too much.
Can someone please pm me about any places in Nova that have young talent and worth the money. Or has this hobby moved to the k condos now and that type of service and young hot girls are gone from AMPs.
I want to try a new place and give some Intel to help other. Been on the down low for a few months from AMPs because it's just too old.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/find-full-relaxtion-with-tonya/17751374
Saw Tonya's ad in the regular BP massage section and did an image search which showed that the pic in the ad was used in a past escort ad with good reviews on the oThER site. She texted that her massage prices were 120 for the hr which is what many FBSM providers charge so I decided to TOFTT.
Location was an upstairs studio in a private house in an OK neighborhood in Falls Church. Woman wasn't close to what was portrayed in the pic but I decided to give the massage a try. That wasn't worth much either, unfortunately. Scented oil and mediocre technique and as we got to the end and the conversation turned to the topic of whether a finish was available she said "my agency won't allow that".
Agency? Really? WTF! I don't know if that part was true or BS but, either way, she's not worth anyone's time or money, IMHO.
Harley Dude 29
05-14-15, 08:19
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tantra-tuesday-evening-appointments/17081963
Saw this lady Saturday, she was pretty straight forward and supposedly only started doing this for a few months now. She says she has a friend that works out in DC named China / Chyna or whatever, but I can't confirm this. She was nice on the phone and via texts, the place was her own personal apartment, but located just near the courthouse in Fairfax. Honestly it's a total shit box of an area and the parking is ruthless when it comes to potholes. Supposedly it's being taken down which makes a lot of sense given the current condition of the place. Anyways she was pretty cool, she's a Rangers fan which is a minus in my book (Caps all the way). She does this part time, the apartment is actually quite clean and done up well. She uses some non scented oils and does a fairly mediocre massage on the back, on the flip she gets really into the rub and seems to want you to bust on her chest, she seems to get a real kick out of that. Real enthusiasm from her, but when the business starts she also upsells a BBBJ and finish in her mouth which was a lot more expensive. I'd didn't bother as I wasn't really aiming for that and didn't have the extra dinero to coffer up. She's a decent lady, a bit on the older side probably in her early to mid 40's, but she has a decent body to boot. She lets you get roam around all over which is a good thing.
Would I go again? Hmmmm possibly. I wasn't left blown away though, but having seen her ad's the past few months my curiosity is what led me to go see her that day. I'll give it an 7/10 for those interested in a older, but cleaner white lady with a decent body and enthusiasm in the finish. EDIT: I should add that her rub technique isn't actually all that good and it took me a lot longer to provide the spunk so to speak. Her technique could use a lot of work.
Later after that session I went and got a real massage at River Spa which I'm sure a few of you are familiar with. The one behind Dunkin Donuts in Centreville, they have always been really good to me, table shower and massage generally a good quality and the finish afterwards is always decent for the price. I don't think I've ever reviewed them before, but I go there if I don't feel like going to the more established AMP's. I tend to cycle through three different ladies and they all seem to recognize me at this point and don't bother with the LE awkward check towards the end.I saw her earlier and it was not good. Went for hour and was in and out in less than 30. She used really scented oil that didn't come off. I agree she loved using her breasts to make it happen. She alluded to more on future visits but got mad when I inquired again about a return visit. I think she likes her ATM approach and wants high volume for little effort. Not worth a visit in my opinion.
Happy Guy 2
05-15-15, 02:16
Had to drive South of normal hunting ground of and. VA, down route 29 for a meeting. Stopped off in Warrington at a see. AMP. On the way and was very pleasantly surprised! Place was Vivi Spa. Dreamt I met a beautiful young, 20's something that was sweet, fun, charming, warm and affectionate GFE type. Even though it was not in NOVA, it was a NOVA finish that was very pleasant. Anna said she got there a week ago from Penn. Treat her nice and she will treat you nice. Good massage, etc. IMO, much better quality than typical NoVA AMP.
Keep safe,
Happy Guy 2.
I posted here since it is 1 HR. Away and the Warrenton board is dead.
BashfulBob
05-15-15, 23:10
She's probably not serious, but I have a lady friend in NOVA who claims she'd be into an AMP experience. I've been to many. Any recommendations for one that might give her some fun?
Pilot Aviator
05-18-15, 16:07
She's probably not serious, but I have a lady friend in NOVA who claims she'd be into an AMP experience. I've been to many. Any recommendations for one that might give her some fun?I am surprised a "long time Lurker" would ask this question. Mongers and lurkers that actually read this board with frequency would have noted that those with limited / no posting history who ask for "actionable intel" without sharing any intel are frequently severely chastised (not be me, but by others).
FWIW. Yes, there are several locations in this area that are happy to accept / have women clients. The key to connecting your wife with one is for YOU to become a good customer. You need to establish a friendly business relationship with the MMS and staff at the place you patronize. Once you are known to be a good client (reliable, gentlemanly, appropriate tips left), you can talk to the manager / MMS about an appointment for your wife, and ask the MMS to recommend an appropriate Massage Technician (if you do not think the MT you've patronized would be amenable).
If your wife / you are actually interested in an AMP experience, it would likely take 4-5 appointments for you to become so established.
A shorter-term solution would be to patronize an independent advertiser on BP / CL. BP / CL listings frequently include information related to provider preferences related to gender -- but almost all BP / CL listings are a crap-shoot.
Whatever YOU do -- always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
Roamin Roman
05-19-15, 03:08
I recently paid a visit to Top Therapy, as it had been a long time since I'd visited that part of NoVa. The following is my evaluation, based on that visit.
EXTERIOR
- Accessibility: The office park in which this AMP is located is situated along Route 7 (Leesburg Pike), with easy access either from that thoroughfare or from another entrance on a side road (George see. Marshall Drive), which will take you into the rear area of the parking lot.
- Parking: I visited on a weekday, shortly after opening time. Despite the fact that this was a professional office complex, there was plenty of parking available in any section of the lot. There seemed to be enough lights in the parking lot, and even though the area is located near a mildly sketchy area (Pimmit Hills), a visit at evening / nighttime should not be a risky proposition. In other words, low risk from criminal elements or car break-ins. But, if in doubt, park near a lamppost.
- Entrance: As their occasional ads note, the entrance is in back and, even though there are neighboring businesses, it is not directly visible from any of them, for what that may matter. There is an outer entrance door, and then an inner entrance door with a doorbell.
INTERIOR
- Cleanliness: From the entrance foyer onward (including the restroom and shower area), everything was clean and tidy and had a fresh smell (no lingering odors of food or mildew apparent).
- Shower Room: The shower room looked newly tiled and had an almost 'Roman' (no pun intended) appearance to it. The fittings looked new and clean, as did the table. There was no apparent standing water in this room, although it clearly had been used this morning, and there was no aroma of mildew in this area, either.
- Sauna: I did not notice a sauna, so I'll have to remember to check on this during my next visit. Or, if another member pays a visit, please make a note.
- Water Temperature: The TS water was plentiful and the right temperature: hot but not excessively so. (Lukewarm TS water is not good, IMHO.).
- Air Temperature: When I walked in, the temperature seemed about right, and not at all humid. Even after exiting the TS, it didn't seem chilly. Overall, this establishment seems to keep its air conditioning set at the right level. However, as the season changes, this may also change. So, if anyone pays a visit in the next few weeks, please note this.
- Bathroom: The restroom was clean, with no lingering odor of mildew or other "odd" smells. They appear to be diligent in keeping this area clean.
- Sheets/Towels: The sheets and towels in the room, as well as the washcloths in the TS, all appeared to be new and clean, not re-used or "recycled. " At the end of the session, the therapist took the sheets and towels to the laundry.
- Room Privacy: The rooms all had doors, which the therapists kept just slightly ajar by a crack. The walls go from floor to ceiling. Because I was one of their first customers that day, I cannot say whether any sound would travel from room to room; however, judging by the simple drywall construction typical of an AMP, sufficient noise reduction should exist so that conversation from an adjoining room should not bother you.
- Final Amenities: The therapist brought hot, moist washcloths to wipe away the massage oils, and another to dry off any remaining water afterwards. And, my therapist brought a small bottle of cold water for me to sip when I exited to the heat outside. MMS asked me if I had a nice visit (which I did), something that is always a nice touch, and the therapist walked me to the exit. And, in the entrance foyer, there was the ubiquitous bowl of candy, full of peppermint Lifesavers.
SERVICE
- Time: The full hour was given. There was no 'shorting' on time. Fee was. 8 for the hour.
- Therapist: My therapist, and the others that I saw, all seem to be in their 30's or 40's (if that matters) and were dressed presentably rather than in, for example, sweat pants and sweatshirts. The quality of the massage was more than acceptable, in terms of pressure, coverage, and knowledge of muscle and skeletal systems. Tip was. 5 for the session, with no complaints.
OVERALL: I would rank this AMP in the top 20% for its cleanliness, accessibility, and general quality metrics. For the NoVa area, I would recommend this AMP and I plan to make a return visit when funds allow.
BuckshotWatson
05-20-15, 10:06
A friend of mine recently stopped by this place on Franconia. Had a good session with Yuna (Euna? A 30-something cute, petite but curvy gal. She looks slender, but has a nice figure under her outfit (short shorts and tank top). Decent TS and massage (not amazing, but pretty good). $80 for the house; more than the standard NOVA tip got him more than the standard NOVA visuals and roaming (YMMV). He said he would return-.
GraniteKing
05-20-15, 11:01
"New place". Tofft.
Fairfax office building 2nd floor suite. First time there, was on best behavior. After legit massage finished, therapist went to hallway.
I heard a man walk in, she tells him my "name", and that I'm a "nice guy". She seemed to be responding to questions to check for funny business but maybe I'm paranoid.
Seemed really fishy. Assuming it's our uncle's place until further notice.
Anyone other reports on this place?
Roamin Roman
05-27-15, 02:09
Continuing my explorations in and around NoVa, I stopped in at Care Therapy this afternoon. It's been around for a number of years, according to the manager, but I don't recall having seen any reports about it, at least not recently. This was my second visit in the past fortnight.
EXTERIOR
- Accessibility: Care is located in an easily accessed 2-story office park along Backlick Road between Annandale and Springfield.
- Parking: Parking appears to be plentiful at any time of day. Both my visits have been during the daytime, but the parking areas look like they would be fairly well-lit after dark. I don't recall reading about much of any crime in this area, so things should be good even for evening / nighttime visits.
- Entrance: Although the entrance faces Backlick, the particular office is set back a ways from the road. There is only an outer (entrance) door, which opens directly into the foyer. This outer door is locked, with a door bell button.
INTERIOR
- Cleanliness: The inside reflects a bit of the age of this office park, but everything was clean, fresh, and well-kept.
- Shower Room: The shower room was standard fare with most establishments, but it was clean and had no aromas of mildew. The table itself was clean and in good condition.
- Water Temperature: The TS water was the right temperature: neither too hot nor too cold.
- Sauna: This place does not have a sauna.
- Air Temperature: The air was conditioned without being frigid. There was none of the outside humidity within. They seem to be able to keep air temperature set at the right level.
- Bathroom: This room was clean and didn't have any lingering odors or odd smells. Despite the moderate age of this building, the bathroom was in good repair.
- Sheets/Towels: Sheets and towels were fresh and new, both in the bathroom and in the therapy rooms. In the rooms there are small units that look like mini-refrigerators, but these hold hot moist towels and facecloths. While they're not scalding, they definitely stay hot inside those units. At the end of the session, the therapist removed the sheets and towels from the room table and took them to the laundry. They were not "recycled. ".
- Therapy Room: The rooms all had doors, which the therapist keeps slightly ajar, and the walls go from floor to ceiling. I could not hear any conversations from adjoining rooms, but that may have been because business was slow each time I visited. In any case, the rooms are standard fare, with a massage table; a nightstand for the lamp, lotion, and rubbing alcohol; a chair; a mirror on the back of the door (if you need to adjust your tie or comb your hair); and clothes hangers and wall hooks. The massage table was of more than adequate length / width and had a hole & cushion for the head.
- Final Amenities: The therapist used the hot, moist washcloths to wipe away the massage oil. And, my therapist brought me a small bottle of cold water before I departed. In the entrance foyer, there was the ubiquitous bowl of candy, mostly peppermint Lifesavers.
SERVICE
- Time: I opted for, and received, a full hour. Fee = . 8.
- Therapist: My therapist this time was the manager. She is probably in her late 40's, for what it's worth. The only other person on staff today was the therapist from my previous visit; she is likely in her early-to-mid 30's. All therapists seem to dress presentably rather than in shabby sweats.
- Session: The massage was of moderate pressure and very acceptable, even though I generally prefer a stronger massage. Coverage was not quite as complete; I could have used more leg work on the calves and backs of the thighs. Still, she hit most of the muscle and skeletal groups. She also did some back-walking, which was very satisfying. Interestingly, this time, I was face-down for the entire session. She finished the session with additional work on the shoulders and neck muscles. Tip was. 5 for the session, with no complaints.
OVERALL: In spite of this facility's relative age, I still would rank this AMP among the top 20% in NoVa. It's clean, accessible, and has good overall quality metrics, so I have no problem giving Care Therapy a solid recommendation. They appear to be very customer-oriented and are competent. I will return at some point, likely in the near future as funds allow.
If you have any questions of a specific nature (names, etc.), please send a PM. As always, the extent of the reply depends on your posting history and quality. Trusted Seniors get preferential / priority information.
Roman.
Following up on the new place in Springfield. Drew Scarlett on a 30 min end of the evening massage. Place was pretty busy for 9 PM. She is gorgeous and has tremendous assets. She noted the other girls there are her age. Her English was very very good. Great place but its popularity makes me nervous.I'm trying to find Scarlett! I'm in the area tomorrow but have no idea her location other than Springfield.
I'm trying to find Scarlett! I'm in the area tomorrow but have no idea her location other than Springfield.Is to contribute to the forum so as to establish some board cred. It's tough to make a withdrawal when there haven't been any deposits made. And everyone is also understandably cautious about Uncle LEO.
Shayjadeed
05-27-15, 13:56
I recently paid a visit to Top Therapy, as it had been a long time since I'd visited that part of NoVa. The following is my evaluation, based on that visit...Stopped by TT last week after reading RR's post, and I concur with his assessment.
My therapist was Tina, and she was in her late 40's and attractive. I didn't see any other therapists while I was there. TS and massage were both very good. The finish was standard, but I had to ask for it. Also, when I asked if she could remove any clothing she said she couldn't. I did make the mistake of telling her it was my first time there, so a 2nd visit may yield different results. Offered. 4 tip and she scoffed, so increased to. 6 and indicated (nicely) that I expected additional treatment next time.
Rei Haragoma
05-27-15, 17:40
Great post, and thanks for posting.
I would like to PM you, as I have a few questions, but your inbox is full!
Would you be kind enough to delete a message or two!
Many thanks!
Roamin Roman
05-27-15, 18:05
Great post, and thanks for posting.
I would like to PM you, as I have a few questions, but your inbox is full!
Would you be kind enough to delete a message or two!
Many thanks!If your post was directed at me, try sending a PM now. I deleted a few older messages.
Roman.
Stopped by TT last week after reading RR's post, and I concur with his assessment.
My therapist was Tina, and she was in her late 40's and attractive. I didn't see any other therapists while I was there. TS and massage were both very good. The finish was standard, but I had to ask for it. Also, when I asked if she could remove any clothing she said she couldn't. I did make the mistake of telling her it was my first time there, so a 2nd visit may yield different results. Offered. 4 tip and she scoffed, so increased to. 6 and indicated (nicely) that I expected additional treatment next time.Unless this place has changed I think it's very much YMMV. I've been there twice and didn't get anything more than a massage on either visit. Maybe I look like a LEO but I was hoping a 2nd visit would help out and it did not. Both visits were a few weeks apart and not long after FCCC went down. Maybe they were being extra cautious around that time.
Stinks for me because this place is in a convenient location, but I won't revisit and pay. 8 for an hour for a massage when I can do that for. 5 a few miles further.
But as they say, YMMV.
Mustang946
05-28-15, 14:45
Following up on the new place in Springfield. Drew Scarlett on a 30 min end of the evening massage. Place was pretty busy for 9 PM. She is gorgeous and has tremendous assets. She noted the other girls there are her age. Her English was very very good. Great place but its popularity makes me nervous.Just completed a session with Scarlett. This is a nice place and you can still smell the recent paint job. Scarlett is as previously described. Great table shower and above average massage skills. Saw another provider named Mei or May who looks even younger than Scarlett. I will probably return. This spa is about one block from another spa. Gps will put you on the opposite side of the building as another poster noted. I will return.
Saw the advert for the redhead under BP Rublist. http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-your-red-head-today-available-1-7-today-52815-incall-springfield/18011645.
A google search shows several other ads from 2014 with very trashy pictures.
http://www.*******************.com/443-637-2784/?id=16641502
I love cheap and trashy women.
There was nothing by name or phone number in the other board and despite he claims to being an adult star her name draws a blank on the big x rated video sites.
Anyone share my craving for tatted up tarts?
SidePocket
05-29-15, 12:44
Saw the advert for the redhead under BP Rublist. http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-your-red-head-today-available-1-7-today-52815-incall-springfield/18011645.
A google search shows several other ads from 2014 with very trashy pictures.
http://www.*******************.com/443-637-2784/?id=16641502
I love cheap and trashy women.
There was nothing by name or phone number in the other board and despite he claims to being an adult star her name draws a blank on the big x rated video sites.
Anyone share my craving for tatted up tarts?Not sure if that BP ad is really her's or if someone stole her pictures. Her Facebook page says she's a dancer at Good Guys so it could be her.
Roamin Roman
05-29-15, 14:14
Saw the advert for the redhead under BP Rublist. http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-your-red-head-today-available-1-7-today-52815-incall-springfield/18011645.
A google search shows several other ads from 2014 with very trashy pictures.
http://www.*******************.com/443-637-2784/?id=16641502
I love cheap and trashy women.
There was nothing by name or phone number in the other board and despite he claims to being an adult star her name draws a blank on the big x rated video sites.
Anyone share my craving for tatted up tarts?The mongers that frequent the BP Advertisers Review board might know more about this gal. She looks "interesting".
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews
The mongers that frequent the BP Advertisers Review board might know more about this gal. She looks "interesting".
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9224-BackPage-Advertiser-ReviewsI saw her a few years ago and the dream was good, though I recall it was a little rushed.
Appears to have enhanced top now. Told me at the time she was a dancer, and I mentioned one DC club, and she said could't work there because they don't approve of the tats.
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5049596357.html
There are a few FBSM providers who post in either the BP or CL therapeutic sections and you can usually tell by their ads and their prices if they might be open to extras.
Saw this ad and gave a call, which was answered by Sophie who speaks good English and is apparently the boss. Made an appt with Amy and was directed to a nice apt complex in McLean.
Quick summary is that Amy is a cute 20's Chinese girl, despite the fake pic, who gives an OK massage and, while she said she was willing to do FBSM, her tip request was way out of line for this area. What she finally suggested was that I finish myself off and pay her. 6 for that privilege. Really, WTF?
Anyway, I gave her a quick rundown of prices in this area and explained politely that both the massage price and the requested tip were too high. She then proceeded to bad mouth other spas and lectured me about how rich guys are happy to pay her prices. Maybe that's an Asian shaming thing to try to get me to pay more? I don't know, but I refused all of it and tipped her. 2 for the massage.
After I left I called Sophie and told her the same info. She was more apologetic but then claimed that Amy shouldn't have offered any extras at all. I understand not wanting to discuss those topics on the phone so I didn't push it. But I did repeat that even the massage price of $/ hr was too high as there are plenty of legit places where a massage costs 40-60 per hour.
Bottom line is that FBSM was on the table (pun intended!) but price expectations were unreasonable. Lot's better out there for the $ and for less hassle.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
On a recent Sunday afternoon I frequented a popular new spa in Springfield. Scarlett was seeing someone else so I drew "Jackie": long tight legs, a bit softer up top, pleasant smile, I'd say in her late 30's. Although the ample parking lot was pretty emptied when I showed up several door bell rings and phone calls followed so after; so I was Lucky to walk right in.
I asked Jackie for a hard massage with shower to follow (I had just walked out of a shower at home anyway). Massage was one of the best I've received in NoVa or NJ. Included back walking, pressure points down the thighs and legs, and a good hard backrub with her straddling me. Good use of elbows and her long hair. Jackie did not complain about some polite OTC fondling while she stood at the head of the table and rubbed cream across my back and buttocks. Hot towels finished the therapeutic session.
Soft touch was pleasant and not rushed. On the flip she required direction to find the right spot (a common security precaution). Jackie provided a competent finish but no extras. English is not her strong suit but she knew what I was asking for and declined firmly a couple times. Table shower was thorough and a nice way to end. My session lasted a bit more than the full hour and I paid a bit more than the usual (0. 8+0. 6) since I expect to go back.
I really needed a thorough massage and that's what I got. If I were in it mostly for the excitement I probably wouldn't roll the dice at any NoVa MP. Better to spend more with a K-girl agency and get what I came for.
LurkerNoMore
06-02-15, 13:43
Hi All,
Anyone have the scoop on Bluegems in Tysons corner? Website has been down for about a week now, and no answer on phone. If they are closed, it will be a shame, as they always had high quality girls, mostly non-Asian.
Any recommendations for other places in / near Tysons, Dulles, Ashburn area? I prefer non-Asians. I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not given it a try yet.
Thanks for any insights.
LNM.
LurkerNoMore
06-02-15, 17:46
Anybody know what happened to BlueGems in Tysons Corner? Website has been down for a week now and no answer on phone line. If they closed, it would be disappointing as they always had very attractive girls.
Anybody have any recommendations for non-Asian massage in the Tysons, Ashburn, Dulles area? I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not tried them yet.
Thanks for any insight.
LNM.
Anybody know what happened to BlueGems in Tysons Corner? Website has been down for a week now and no answer on phone line. If they closed, it would be disappointing as they always had very attractive girls.
Anybody have any recommendations for non-Asian massage in the Tysons, Ashburn, Dulles area? I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not tried them yet.
Thanks for any insight.
LNM.Your last three posts out of your six reports are questions. The other two reports were nothing of value. You have one report that is so so since 2008. Do you really think that you have been sharing information with us and that we should give up information and share it with you? Seriously.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Bunker Buster
06-03-15, 12:54
Your last three posts out of your six reports are questions. The other two reports were nothing of value. You have one report that is so so since 2008. Do you really think that you have been sharing information with us and that we should give up information and share it with you? Seriously.The one 'report' was from '04, not '08. Here's a classic, also from '04:
I will definatley check it out sometime soon. I will post my review for you!
LNM 11 years later, would you believe the review never went up? LOL.
Saw the advert for the redhead under BP Rublist. http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-your-red-head-today-available-1-7-today-52815-incall-springfield/18011645.
A google search shows several other ads from 2014 with very trashy pictures.
http://www.*******************.com/443-637-2784/?id=16641502
I love cheap and trashy women.
There was nothing by name or phone number in the other board and despite he claims to being an adult star her name draws a blank on the big x rated video sites.
Anyone share my craving for tatted up tarts?She advertises on another massage only review board and has been reviewed several times all very good and positive. The name she uses is Halia.
Whats up with Secret Temptations? I just checked with their website and they say they don't do massages and don't offer any sexual services. They offer private viewings? If I want to spent time with a women who takes my money. Doesn't have sex with me. And won't give me a massage. I will stay home with my wife!
Anybody know what happened to BlueGems in Tysons Corner? Website has been down for a week now and no answer on phone line. If they closed, it would be disappointing as they always had very attractive girls.
Anybody have any recommendations for non-Asian massage in the Tysons, Ashburn, Dulles area? I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not tried them yet.
Thanks for any insight.
LNM.Not to pile it on but he's been asking about BG since 2008. You'd think he'd get a phone number by now.
Roamin Roman
06-03-15, 17:17
Anybody know what happened to BlueGems in Tysons Corner? Website has been down for a week now and no answer on phone line. If they closed, it would be disappointing as they always had very attractive girls.
Anybody have any recommendations for non-Asian massage in the Tysons, Ashburn, Dulles area? I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not tried them yet.
Thanks for any insight.
LNM.Unfortunately, like Desert Pete used to say, "You've got to give before you get. " By your handle (LurkerNoMore), it would seem that you now want to actively participate in the forum. Well and fine, as that stands. However, like JmSuttr said, below, you've got to build up some "board cred" before folks are willing to take your requests for info seriously. The best way to gain credibility is to provide what's known as "actionable intel", info that other board members can use. But, in order to provide such "actionable intel", you'll need to spend some of your own hard-earned money and limited spare time. Just like every other credible member has done. A "Go forth and TOFTT" attitude will very likely produce positive results for you. Until then, please be patient and we'll get back to you at some point in the future.
Roman.
Roamin Roman
06-04-15, 02:01
Yesterday afternoon, I paid another visit to Care Therapy after a gym workout. The manager, Kim, told me that a new therapist had arrived earlier in the week and that she was the only one available. I had gone with the intention of having Kim give the massage, but she was preoccupied; so, I agreed to the new person. Kim then gave me a towel and got the shower ready. As I mentioned in my previous post, the shower here is a brand-new DIY enclosed stall. The showerhead is in the ceiling of the enclosure, and it dispenses a good spray / stream of water at an adjustable temperature. (No freezing showers here.) After I exited, Kim took me back to the room and Mya entered shortly thereafter.
Although she stands about 5'-0", or maybe even a couple inches less, and probably weighs no more than 90 pounds, this small lady can apply more than ample pressure to work the muscle groups quite well. I didn't ask for any back-walking, but she would be perfect for that. She also gave a very satisfying foot massage during the session, something that not all therapists seem to know how or take care to do well. As on previous visits, I received the full hour's time and she gave a massage that was above and beyond expectations. The only "complaint" I had was that she seemed to expect a higher tip than what's normal around NoVa, but I chalk that up to her just arriving from NYC where AMP fees and tips are a bit higher. We were able to reach an equitable middle ground without any unpleasantness. After all, she did good work and gave me a better-than-usual massage during the hour, so I've no real problem with paying a little more, at least this time. However, on my next visit, I'm going to hold out for Kim. I told Kim that before I left, so that may be sufficient to make Kim wonder why and perhaps discuss expectations for this area with Mya. Besides, as good as Mya was, I just liked Kim's technique a bit more.
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Vitals (with some estimates): About 5'-0", 90 lbs. , 30 A, early 50's, long dark hair to just about waist level, strong hands, excellent English, good conversationalist but not a chatterbox.
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Be careful, looks like PWC's finest in visiting there right now. There is a SUV parked right in front of the door with undercover blocing the entrance.
Krzyazn128
06-04-15, 15:44
Finished a session with Scarlett last week at the new place in Springfield. Plenty of parking. Great service and clean. Massge was ok, a little too much boney elbow for me and the walk on back was a nice. TS was great. Nice young lady. I would repeat. Standard NOVA. 1 hour. 8 plus the. 4 .
Sometimes you want to be spoiled -- and a good relationship with MMS can be a big help. You don't develop these relationships instantly, but the ones who are good businesswomen recognize the value of reliable (I make appointments, and I arrive on time), "no drama" (I pay and know appropriate behavior and gratuities) customers.
This week I wanted an extended massage. I contacted a local MMSs and arranged a double-session (two hours). MMS accommodated my request with a rate that was below two-one-hour-appointments, and MMS recommended a provider who could give a good massage for an extended time (I knew this provider from when she worked close to the beltway at a location that (sadly) closed some time ago).
The massage technician provided a very good TS (which is standard at that location). The massage technician spaced the massage into several extended sections (some with oil, some dry but each spaced with hot towel wipe-downs).
Nothing extra was expected / received -- just a high quality NoVA experience with the luxury of time. I tipped the massage technician double (since she gave me twice the time).
This massage was good for me -- but as is true in all things.
YMMV Alot.
Scorpion King
06-05-15, 00:40
Visited MAY in Falls Church close to beltway and had a good massage with a new provider almost new to the country. I forgot her name, but she seemed in her 30's, 5'3", 100 lbs (approx) and cute young lookin' face and body. Shy in the beginning but ended up with a good massage with standard finish. . 8 and. 4 for a little bit over an hour. She kept asking how do you like it and at the end she promised to deliver better. Will repeat.
I tried Amy after I saw review and I can add a little more to it.
Amy is definite cute, probably late 20's / early 30's, massage was good, location is convenient in Tysons.
Now the bottom line is she does not actually provide "service", she would only watch / help you do it for a tip, and some touching was allowed but her body is fully covered.
Overall if you are looking for a good massage and younger asian girl, you can go for it, and for a tip she will watch / help you at the end.
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5049596357.html
There are a few FBSM providers who post in either the BP or CL therapeutic sections and you can usually tell by their ads and their prices if they might be open to extras.
Saw this ad and gave a call, which was answered by Sophie who speaks good English and is apparently the boss. Made an appt with Amy and was directed to a nice apt complex in McLean.
Quick summary is that Amy is a cute 20's Chinese girl, despite the fake pic, who gives an OK massage and, while she said she was willing to do FBSM, her tip request was way out of line for this area. What she finally suggested was that I finish myself off and pay her. 6 for that privilege. Really, WTF?
Anyway, I gave her a quick rundown of prices in this area and explained politely that both the massage price and the requested tip were too high. She then proceeded to bad mouth other spas and lectured me about how rich guys are happy to pay her prices. Maybe that's an Asian shaming thing to try to get me to pay more? I don't know, but I refused all of it and tipped her. 2 for the massage.
After I left I called Sophie and told her the same info. She was more apologetic but then claimed that Amy shouldn't have offered any extras at all. I understand not wanting to discuss those topics on the phone so I didn't push it. But I did repeat that even the massage price of $/ hr was too high as there are plenty of legit places where a massage costs 40-60 per hour.
Bottom line is that FBSM was on the table (pun intended!) but price expectations were unreasonable. Lot's better out there for the $ and for less hassle.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
I tried Amy after I saw review and I can add a little more to it.
Amy is definite cute, probably late 20's / early 30's, massage was good, location is convenient in Tysons.
Now the bottom line is she does not actually provide "service", she would only watch / help you do it for a tip, and some touching was allowed but her body is fully covered.
Overall if you are looking for a good massage and younger asian girl, you can go for it, and for a tip she will watch / help you at the end.At $100 the massage is way overpriced and her skills are ok, but not great. I've had much better massages in this area for $50-$60. And, IMHO, self-service is not something I go to a provider or masseuse for and is definitely not deserving of any kind of tip.
Also, something she did with me, but apparently not with you, was suggest that a HJ was an option but that the tip would have to be more than the $60 I was willing to pay. In my book that qualifies as a definite upsell and borderline bait & switch.
Visited MAY in Falls Church close to beltway and had a good massage with a new provider almost new to the country. I forgot her name, but she seemed in her 30's, 5'3", 100 lbs (approx) and cute young lookin' face and body. Shy in the beginning but ended up with a good massage with standard finish. . 8 and. 4 for a little bit over an hour. She kept asking how do you like it and at the end she promised to deliver better. Will repeat.http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-line-up-mei-theraphy/17283822
If so, did they ever get a table shower? I've visited a couple of times and each time the girl says they're going to install a table shower.
Does anyone have intel on the Woodbridge AMP where Sakura used to be?
Please PM if you have info. Thanks.
GuyInTheCorner
06-06-15, 23:00
Returned to the newish place we have been talking about in Springfield. Drew Mei / May this time. 30's, short, athletic build, very pretty, very smooth hands. Again, like Scarlett, good English. Hour long, typical NOVA rates. Mild TS, very very good massage, solid back walking that hit the right spots, and her soft hands still had the right amount of strength and pressure to them. Very nice finish with roaming and happy to discuss that further offline. I plan to return.
Of note: Mei answered the door. May be that on Saturdays Mamasan isn't there?
Scorpion King
06-07-15, 17:45
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-line-up-mei-theraphy/17283822
If so, did they ever get a table shower? I've visited a couple of times and each time the girl says they're going to install a table shower.No TS yet. However, they do charge. 8 which should include TS.
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06-08-15, 18:00
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Member #4911
06-08-15, 18:36
Massage Therapy, 9124 A Mathis Ave, Manassas, VA 571-xxx-1056 next to JER Ace HW in the mall.
Met up with Lily, looks all of 18, but probably a bit older, short at around 5' mark, super sexy daisy duke shorts and cleavage, decent (legit) massage, no mutual touch, she played shy, but I doubt it given her attire. Very nice gal, easy to talk to if you want to initiate dialogue, her english seemed okay to good, seemingly understanding all I said. An okay massage from a young gal is about all it adds up to though.
I started off with a 60 min for .6, then upped it to 90 min for + .3, but an appointment came in and she took off 10 mins into the extra 30 mins. She offered me extra time on the next visit, or the other gal there could finish my remaining 20 mins, I chose the latter. The other gal turned out to be an old lady, nice enough and decent (legit) massage wrap up. Tipped. 2 for $.1 total.
All show and no go for me. YMMV.
A reliable source noted that the Warrenton police hit Vivi Spa in Warrenton this morning / afternoon. Unsure if they also hit Lily's in Warrenton. The source stated a uniformed police officer with a camera, an older guy in a suit, and an older woman in business attire were present inside the office. The uniformed police reportedly asked for ID, but the source refused, the police noted no licensed massage therapists were present and suggested departing without return.
Be cautious in your endeavors and consider minimizing details posted in future reporting, as I suspect (some) cops can read, have an epiphany, setup a sting operation, and close down places allegedly offering lingam massages.Drove past Lily and their flashing sign was off.
Had an interesting first visit to Panya today. Ellie was the only person there, and she could pronounce her name. I arrived early before she had put on her makeup. I assured her I didn't care.
I would guess mid-30's, not what you would call pretty. She spoke pretty good English--and lots of it. She was very friendly, I would say, and chattered the whole time I was there.
She and most of the workers there are Thai, she said, though my massage was Swedish. Among the many observations she shared was her opinion that Koreans are hard to deal with. Chinese, Vietnamese, they are easy to get along with, but Koreans are just nasty.
In the rare moments when she shut the fuck up for thirty seconds, I became aware that she had decent technique, but that only happened a couple of times. Three times she asked me what I was thinking. I don't know whether she was fishing for a compliment, or for information, or just ran out of things to say and couldn't stand the silence.
Okay, here's one I haven't heard. During the table shower, she wanted to wash out my mouth with the shower. I went along. Some people think it's strange, she said. Really?
Anyway, I left physically relaxed but mentally exhausted. Prices and services comparable to K spas. Other girls there are reportedly younger but have limited menus. I probably won't find out.
Massage Therapy, 9124 A Mathis Ave, Manassas, VA 571-xxx-1056 next to JER Ace HW in the mall.
Met up with Lily, looks all of 18, but probably a bit older, short at around 5' mark, super sexy daisy duke shorts and cleavage, decent (legit) massage, no mutual touch, she played shy, but I doubt it given her attire. Very nice gal, easy to talk to if you want to initiate dialogue, her english seemed okay to good, seemingly understanding all I said. An okay massage from a young gal is about all it adds up to though.
I started off with a 60 min for .6, then upped it to 90 min for + .3, but an appointment came in and she took off 10 mins into the extra 30 mins. She offered me extra time on the next visit, or the other gal there could finish my remaining 20 mins, I chose the latter. The other gal turned out to be an old lady, nice enough and decent (legit) massage wrap up. Tipped. 2 for $.1 total.
All show and no go for me. YMMV.I have had 6-8 massages by Lily. She is 23-24 and very cute. Been at this place a couple of years.
Gives a very good massage, but definitely no extras and no touching.
If you want a good massage, by a pretty young lady with a sweet disposition, fine but nothing else at this establishment.
Nyhornet.
A reliable source noted that the Warrenton police hit Vivi Spa in Warrenton this morning / afternoon. Unsure if they also hit Lily's in Warrenton. The source stated a uniformed police officer with a camera, an older guy in a suit, and an older woman in business attire were present inside the office. The uniformed police reportedly asked for ID, but the source refused, the police noted no licensed massage therapists were present and suggested departing without return.
Be cautious in your endeavors and consider minimizing details posted in future reporting, as I suspect (some) cops can read, have an epiphany, setup a sting operation, and close down places allegedly offering lingam massages.Yikes, I was there a week ago and saw the pretty 25 yo that was recently reviewed. She said the two providers generally worked every other day. She seemed like a nice girl. I hope it was her day off.
Happy Guy 2
06-10-15, 23:54
Yikes, I was there a week ago and saw the pretty 25 yo that was recently reviewed. She said the two providers generally worked every other day. She seemed like a nice girl. I hope it was her day off.Ditto to what Nyhornet said. Nice place, nice people. Hope all is OK. Wanted to return to on trip up to and. VA. Guess I will hold off. Can't they look for some real criminals?
Happy Guy 2.
Ashley: avoid this girl. She would begin the session by lecturing you on where you can touch. When to flip. Blahblahblah.
Bridgette: she isn't very pretty but she allows touching and gives very good HJ, I saw her a couple times.
And I miss some of the girls that no longer work there. Karan, lexi, tania.
Ditto to what Nyhornet said. Nice place, nice people. Hope all is OK. Wanted to return to on trip up to and. VA. Guess I will hold off. Can't they look for some real criminals?
Happy Guy 2.A full-on LEO sting or raid would probably not have included the "suits" described in the original post, there would have been multiple cops and someone would probably have been walked out in handcuffs. This sounds more like the tactic many counties use to shut down spas by checking licenses and issuing citations for violations.
Unfortunately the end result is mostly the same for the hobbyist as the spa will usually shut down at least temporarily, and sometimes permanently, and the unlicensed girls will scatter. But at least there shouldn't be criminal issues hanging over their heads, just the civil citation stuff.
Guitarman1
06-12-15, 12:46
Be cautious in your endeavors and consider minimizing details posted in future reporting, as I suspect (some) cops can read, have an epiphany, setup a sting operation, and close down places allegedly offering lingam massages.That really makes no difference. The cops know where these places are. For starters these places generally have ads up. Plus an asian spa frequented by mostly middle aged white males isn't exactly going to fly under the radar for very long.
I remember when everyone thought a place providing full service would put them more on the radar. that also made absolutely zero difference. these places still get the license check treatment, and occasional raid. it mostly depends on the jurisdiction and whether or not the local politicians make it a priority.
Lots of chatter here and elsewhere, but this is a cautionary tale about what happens when big head has no say in the adventure at hand. In the wilds of Franconia, there exist two new spots for us to invest our funds and in return, we expect a return on investment. In one of the more elite of the two, a pair (in my experience) of youngerish ladies dispensed first rate ROI, but for some reason they have both gotten VERY cautious with their activities, to the point that my last visit (with the older), while satisfying, was well below the standard set earlier by Sally. So, always on the look-out, I transferred my wellness business elsewhere. First visit or so was Truly outstanding. However, here comes the other shoe. I think the party in Franconia may be over. If not over, at least changed enough that few will make the trip to find out. Today, while seeking that which we all do, I needed some wellness and made the trip to Franconia. Probably the worst AMP experience that I can remember. Total waste of time and $$. I'll provide details to participating folk, otherwise don't bother to PM me.
Safe. AM.
A full-on LEO sting or raid would probably not have included the "suits" described in the original post, there would have been multiple cops and someone would probably have been walked out in handcuffs. This sounds more like the tactic many counties use to shut down spas by checking licenses and issuing citations for violations.
Unfortunately the end result is mostly the same for the hobbyist as the spa will usually shut down at least temporarily, and sometimes permanently, and the unlicensed girls will scatter. But at least there shouldn't be criminal issues hanging over their heads, just the civil citation stuff.Vivi continues to advertise on Craigslist. Possible they paid in advance for continuing ads. I haven't been by again since the visit. Blue Sky in Manassas is advertising again also. I have not returned there either.
Be careful, looks like PWC's finest in visiting there right now. There is a SUV parked right in front of the door with undercover blocing the entrance.I read somewhere that they Amy be under same ownership as Oasis in Dumfries. I visited Oasis several days ago for first time in many years. The quite attractive lady that massaged me, was very, very cautious. Maybe, I now understand why.
I decided yet again, to try a KAMP in noVA (Hurdun or Hairdun, whichever way you say it LOL). I went with a spot at the 201 across from a place to play pool (as well as another AMP).
I have heard good reviews about this spot from another mongering website but my experience was blah, thus I did not get nor care for her name. Ok looking provider, tallish (5'6") and long brown curly hair.
Good massage. NoVa service, with roaming allowed and nursing allowed too (but I stopped nursing after 10 seconds, her "mammary glands" were not anything to rave about) but the provider said the rate is usaully 60. Umm, ok, whatever.
I gave her 40 and left and she seemed a little bit miffed. Oh well. And as typical these days, my hour turned into the "korean hour" which equals just slightly under 45 minutes. If I have received the full hour, I would had tipped another 10. Note: When I asked about activities at the start of the festivities she indicated "back in the day" DC services were available but to bring something with me next time. However after her being miffed with my tip, I'm thinking a flashback to the good ole DC days is going to cost over the normal benjamin rate, in addition to the entry fee. To heck with that. No thanks.
Roamin Roman
06-13-15, 18:11
Lots of chatter here and elsewhere, but this is a cautionary tale about what happens when big head has no say in the adventure at hand. In the wilds of Franconia, there exist two new spots for us to invest our funds and in return, we expect a return on investment. In one of the more elite of the two, a pair (in my experience) of youngerish ladies dispensed first rate ROI, but for some reason they have both gotten VERY cautious with their activities, to the point that my last visit (with the older), while satisfying, was well below the standard set earlier by Sally. So, always on the look-out, I transferred my wellness business elsewhere. First visit or so was Truly outstanding. However, here comes the other shoe. I think the party in Franconia may be over. If not over, at least changed enough that few will make the trip to find out. Today, while seeking that which we all do, I needed some wellness and made the trip to Franconia. Probably the worst AMP experience that I can remember. Total waste of time and $$. I'll provide details to participating folk, otherwise don't bother to PM me.
Safe. AM.I heard through my grapevine (unconfirmed) that the ownership / management wants to take this spa in a legitimate direction and may, thus, be winding the current approach down. Apparently has to do with a desire for less hassles with LEO, licensing, inspections, etc. Again, this is unconfirmed info, but the source has been pretty well connected in all the years that I've known her. So, as AM advises, it's probably best to expend your heard-earned dollars and limited free time elsewhere. This is all I know and am able to post for the time being, so please don't flood me with PMs. If I hear anything further about this rumor, I'll post a follow-up.
Roman.
Remember where the Golden K girls decamped from G-town to the burbs? Big sign on building the occupied, and CL indicates they've opened. The fact it is a big sign indicates that the days of yore won't be returning, however.
Vivi continues to advertise on Craigslist. Possible they paid in advance for continuing ads. I haven't been by again since the visit. Blue Sky in Manassas is advertising again also. I have not returned there either.They were open several days ago. The therapist advised that, in the future, they would be DIY because of recent concerns. I don't have any further information so no PM's, please.
Any info on what happened at Blue in Sterling? Been down for a few weeks with a sign that said Closed for Family Emergency, Now sign says under new Management to open mid June? I had one of the Ladies private digits and have not been able to reach her, others may know who I mean. Feel free to PM with any Info.
I am coming Herdon area near Fairfax area from Philly, and good AMP with Halley ending?
I will recommend the best Philly place for exchange.
Thanks,
As anyone who has partaken of this hobby for more than a few years can attest, the more things change the more they stay the same.
The AMP landscape is constantly in flux, with new places opening, old places closing or going legit (for various reasons) and girls moving around so quickly it makes both your heads spin. Uncle LEO plays the whack-a-mole game from the angle of trying to manage what they see as a problem, while dealing with citizen complaints and launching the occasional enforcement (code, licensing or criminal) operation. From the hobbyists' angle, the whack-a-mole game consists of trying to keep track of decent places and ATFs while avoiding ripoff / upsell joints or legit places that teasingly advertise as though they offer extras.
All of the posts about recent events and issues in the NOVA AMP scene could just as easily be from 5 years ago or 5 years in the future. IMHO, it's generally a disappointing proposition, in terms of time, $$ and expectations, to chase after the latest positive report or the newest spa "Grand Opening". Unless you make it a full-time vocation to keep track of the constant changes in a spreadsheet (BTW, if you do track info like that, please PM me!) it's kind of like buying into the stock market after the hype has already hit the headlines.
Based on advice received from many seniors over the years, one way to minimize the downside of constant changes is to focus on a few good prospects and develop the kind of strong client-provider relationship that will ensure they keep you in the loop when things change. There are seniors in this forum (you know who you are) who have the personal digits of their favorite masseuses and mama-sans and who get text updates when things change and preferential treatment even if the location is forced to go legit. I have one AMP ATF who travels back and forth from NYC and always let's me know when she's in town. I also have one mama-san who knows my preferences, sends me a text when she has a new girl she thinks I'd like and let's that girl know I'm a trusted regular and to take good care of me. Of course, there are no guarantees in this crazy hobby, but anything that might save you $$ and frustration is worth a try.
Good luck and stay safe out there!
Member #4911
06-16-15, 19:26
They were open several days ago. The therapist advised that, in the future, they would be DIY because of recent concerns. I don't have any further information so no PM's, please.The "open" signs are once again lit. I am not sure if they had to cut back to just the licensed gals, only one gal was at Vivi's on my last visit and it was not the younger Anna, who may or may not still be around. You will see signs posted in the rooms from management for your reading pleasure. They may discourage you, but hope floats. YMWV dependent on several factors, most important your former relationship with the gal or lack thereof. // SSRod.
Visiting from Chicago and TOFTT at FF Massage in Chantilly.
Total legit vibe from start to finish. Only one provider there, very nice 50 ish lady, Chinese. Excellent legit massage, draped entire time, definitely refreshing but zero menu for extras and probably wouldn't have been too interested anyway.
Only here a few days so probably won't find happiness while here. If anyone needs info on Chicago please don't hesitate to PM me.
Olivera1990
06-20-15, 16:15
New Member, stumbled on this website when in SFO and heard about massages, so went to health in SFO and the next door and had a very good time for. 6 entry fee and $. 2 for full service.
Then next trip was NC and it was late in the night after my meetings so ended up on waynard with a brown teeth and again entry same and FS for $ but did not enjoy as much as SFO.
TS was good in NC compared to SFO.
Anyways it was very easy to read on this website and get real exp, in NC lot of them were closed ofcourse, in Cary area.
Coming to NOVA and can go around for 40 miles radius due to work and stationed her for a month and I don't see anything which is FS or HJ. If any body can PM me that would be great.
Any info on what happened at Blue in Sterling? Been down for a few weeks with a sign that said Closed for Family Emergency, Now sign says under new Management to open mid June? I had one of the Ladies private digits and have not been able to reach her, others may know who I mean. Feel free to PM with any Info.Been wondering that myself. I noticed they took down their sign and the neon "Open" sign facing Sterling Blvd a few months ago and just had these dim blue lights on, outlining the windows. I too saw the "family emergency" sign when I tried to visit more recently. I didn't see anything on the local online news about any busts or the such. Kind of the same thing that happened to Capitol over on Church Rd (closed down for a few months, open back up under a new owner and they recently erased the word "Capitol" from their outdoor sign). I liked Judy at Capitol. She had a good technique.
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Stopped by an old haunt on Holly in Sterling. I usually get the manager, since I guess she is the only one that works there for the most part but she had a "new" girl there on Saturday and asked me if I wanted to try her out. I said, sure, why not. The "new" girl was a middle aged Chinese woman. Nothing to write home about. Plain looking, out of shape. I should had just kept with the manager.
Massage was ok, not great compared to the manager's massage. Activities were standard noVA. While performing activities, she had this expression on her face and making slight noises as if she was getting herself off or had to go to the bathroom really bad.
I tipped the standard rate and left. Afterwards, I shake my head and wonder if it's time to quit the AMP game around here. Man, some of these places are just hitting rock bottom.
My recommendation of this place: Not recommended. Even for a quick fix with the manager, I'm beginning to lose interest in this spot.
Friend experienced the massage by Anny. Photos are spot on, nice clean demeanor. More of a B2B with a oil and standard NOVA.
Damage was $. 2 for hh. Longer stays may consequent extras, as told!. Overall it was good and enjoyable. Friend will repeat, YMMV.
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On a very hot day, I thought the timing perfect for a repeat visit to one of the new DMV spas.
EXTERIOR.
- Parking: Plenty -- some with shade. GPS guidance may not take you to the correct place, but a little are&are around the mediplex / officeplex.
- Entrance: Although the entrance faces the main road, trees and a fence provide cover from the road (but not from the neighboring offices). Use the left-hand door that leads up the stairs. Ring the bell at the top of the stairs for admittance.
INTERIOR.
- Cleanliness: This is a new place. Still looks new, aroma of fresh paint and good-clean facilities.
- Shower Room: The shower room is larger that some. New, well tiled. Clean and odor free. The table itself was clean and in new condition. TS offered at beginning or end of session depending on the provider and number / sequence of customers.
- Water Temperature: The TS water was neither too hot nor too cold -- but the body-soap was COLD!
- Air Temperature: The air was conditioned without being too cold.
- Bathroom: Appears to be clean (I did not use).
- Sheets / Towels: Sheets and towels in the studio and shower were clean / new. At the end of the session, all the towels and sheets were changed while I was preparing to leave.
- Therapy Room: The studios are a bit on the smaller side, with full walls and doors (which the therapist keeps slightly ajar). The massage table was new and of standard size (with hole in table for face comfort). A bar is along the ceiling.
- Final Amenities: The therapist used the hot, moist towels to wipe away the massage cream. I've been offered water and candy on each visit.
SERVICE.
- Time: I opted for, and received, a full hour. Fee = . 8. EXCELLENT. I have never been shorted on time, and have never been rushed.
- Therapist: My therapist this week was taller than many in the area. I have met three at this location. Those looking for the 20-something "unicorn" can look elsewhere. Those that like other therapists in NoVA will like these therapists. All have been pleasant to talk to, and all have been pleasant to see. All therapists dressed well, but not fancy.
- Session: The massage was of light to moderate pressure. Tip was standard for the session with no complaints.
This is a nice place -- but other places have better massage. They appear to want good, repeat customers. I am sure I will return, but not swiftly.
Not bad -- but, as is true in all things, .
YMMV Alot.
Roamin Roman
06-23-15, 23:43
What a nice, detailed, and informative report, in a very easy-to-read, well-organized format. I like it. .
Hats off to you, amigo, and thanks for sharing your findings.
Roman
On a very hot day, I thought the timing perfect for a repeat visit to one of the new DMV spas.
EXTERIOR.
- Parking: Plenty -- some with shade. GPS guidance may not take you to the correct place, but a little are&are around the mediplex / officeplex.
- Entrance: Although the entrance faces the main road, trees and a fence provide cover from the road (but not from the neighboring offices). Use the left-hand door that leads up the stairs. Ring the bell at the top of the stairs for admittance.
INTERIOR.
- Cleanliness: This is a new place. Still looks new, aroma of fresh paint and good-clean facilities.
- Shower Room: The shower room is larger that some. New, well tiled. Clean and odor free. The table itself was clean and in new condition. TS offered at beginning or end of session depending on the provider and number / sequence of customers.
- Water Temperature: The TS water was neither too hot nor too cold -- but the body-soap was COLD!
- Air Temperature: The air was conditioned without being too cold.
- Bathroom: Appears to be clean (I did not use).
- Sheets / Towels: Sheets and towels in the studio and shower were clean / new. At the end of the session, all the towels and sheets were changed while I was preparing to leave.
- Therapy Room: The studios are a bit on the smaller side, with full walls and doors (which the therapist keeps slightly ajar). The massage table was new and of standard size (with hole in table for face comfort). A bar is along the ceiling.
- Final Amenities: The therapist used the hot, moist towels to wipe away the massage cream. I've been offered water and candy on each visit.
SERVICE.
- Time: I opted for, and received, a full hour. Fee = . 8. EXCELLENT. I have never been shorted on time, and have never been rushed.
- Therapist: My therapist this week was taller than many in the area. I have met three at this location. Those looking for the 20-something "unicorn" can look elsewhere. Those that like other therapists in NoVA will like these therapists. All have been pleasant to talk to, and all have been pleasant to see. All therapists dressed well, but not fancy.
- Session: The massage was of light to moderate pressure. Tip was standard for the session with no complaints.
This is a nice place -- but other places have better massage. They appear to want good, repeat customers. I am sure I will return, but not swiftly.
Not bad -- but, as is true in all things, .
YMMV Alot.
What a nice, detailed, and informative report, in a very easy-to-read, well-organized format. I like it.
Well, the format is nice, but useless without an indication of the location. Did I miss some clue?
Pilot Aviator
06-24-15, 09:50
Well, the format is nice, but useless without an indication of the location. Did I miss some clue?Useless. Hmmmmm. I disagree.
Yes, Krakatoa missed the clue.
Many of us do not explicitly identify locations or providers. Why? -- out of respect for those places / ladies that don't want the direct exposure of this forum (such as my ATF location and provider -- but MMS and Provider frequently remind the customers "no internet" -- and to maintain some discretion from Uncles (who admittedly know all. See all) and monger-trolls who manifest abusive demeanor in writing or in their lack of manners.
I've been to the location reviewed -- I agree with the reviewer -- a nice place, but better massage available nearby (in fact, several locations within the same half-mile.).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
Useless. Hmmmmm. I disagree.
Yes, Krakatoa missed the clue.
PA.I agree with the principle, and I mean no disrespect to the seniors, from whom I have learned alot.
It's a tough call on how much detail to provide. Since there was no incriminating commentary in this review, I didn't see the need for the riddle. This one was a little too subtle for me, but that's okay. It's all good.
I agree with the principle, and I mean no disrespect to the seniors, from whom I have learned alot.
It's a tough call on how much detail to provide. Since there was no incriminating commentary in this review, I didn't see the need for the riddle. This one was a little too subtle for me, but that's okay. It's all good.When it comes to posting reports in the forum, there's only so much a hobbyist can do to protect the AMP or indie provider, the rest is up to them. FWIW, I operate under the assumption that Uncle LEO pretty much knows which MPs are legit and which provide extras. And, if a new place opens up, I'm guessing they believe the worst about it until proven otherwise.
So when it comes to giving the name of a place, I personally don't feel any need to talk in riddles or cryptic clues. Besides, a LEO who works the AMP beat can probably decipher any code better than most mongers. My preference is to discuss service levels and prices (std NOVA, NOVA+, or other) and my general level of satisfaction, but to only discuss specifics of the masseuse via PM with trusted members.
IMHO, it's the nature of the biz that all AMPs will attract unwanted LEO attention at some point. It's the responsibility of the AMP itself, and the individual girls, to be cautious about stings and there's only so much a hobbyist can do. By keeping some specifics on the down-low, Uncle will still have to do their own homework and figure things out on their own.
BTW, whenever I encounter an AMP girl who doesn't do enough to make sure I'm not Uncle LEO, I make sure to have a talk with her (after the end of the session, of course) and I try to give her with a few tips so she can hopefully avoid problems.
I accept the insight of very senior posters -- and encouragement to continue posting.
I regret my last review (Franconia Wellness. FW) frustrated readers.
In summary.
1. I visited FW.
2. This is a new place, clean and well appointed. It has all facilities associated with a quality spa.
3. It is not hard to find, but, it is in a complex of several buildings.
4. The massage technicians are nice, professional.
5. I received my full hour (I do not like to be shorted on time).
6. It is likely I will return.
FW is a good quality place. Be polite (as we always should).
I considered this a good massage experience, but as is true in all things.
YMMV Alot.
Had a recent session with Nalee while passing through, selected her after reading good reviews elsewhere. Very good massage skills. Excellent attitude and cheery personality, English is decent. Dressed somewhat sexy, some OTC roaming allowed, worked out all the kinks, can go deep. Nothing more likely available besides FBSM. Still got my money's worth at 1. 2. Would repeat.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-nalee/16515356
Also, any intel on these two? They are in Silver Spring, and I had considered these before seeing Nalee.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sweet-massage/17388985
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-touch-come-see-how-wonderful-it-is/16270693
Had a recent session with Nalee while passing through, selected her after reading good reviews elsewhere. Very good massage skills. Excellent attitude and cheery personality, English is decent. Dressed somewhat sexy, some OTC roaming allowed, worked out all the kinks, can go deep. Nothing more likely available besides FBSM. Still got my money's worth at 1. 2. Would repeat.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-nalee/16515356
Also, any intel on these two? They are in Silver Spring, and I had considered these before seeing Nalee.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sweet-massage/17388985
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/therapeutic-touch-come-see-how-wonderful-it-is/16270693The locals up there will most likely have better intel. IIRC, there was a recent discussion about Melissa so a name search should yield some useful results.
Roamin Roman
06-30-15, 17:56
Well, the format is nice, but useless without an indication of the location. Did I miss some clue?By not providing levels of detail akin to a body orifice search, the Pilot, JmSuttr, and I are basically employing a level of circumspection but also encouraging others (whose interest might be piqued by our reports) to follow up with PMs that enquire with meaningful questions. I emphasize this because it's unlikely that any of us have the luxury of answering a lot of trivial questions or providing information that other can find or determine on their own. In this way, the intent of the forum doesn't suffer, but certain information remains more discrete. As JmSuttr says, "There's only so much a monger can do. " However, if any given monger (such as yourself, I'd say) has built up sufficient "board cred," then there's probably little reason to fret about sending a back-channel message.
Roman.
Yikes, I was there a week ago and saw the pretty 25 yo that was recently reviewed. She said the two providers generally worked every other day. She seemed like a nice girl. I hope it was her day off.She's still there.
I have a lot of respect for these guys I honestly do, I just disagree with how they think our least favorite uncle works.
New MP opens, they suspect, they watch MP, if nothing but guys go in, they send an undercover. If the chick gives them a handie then it's busted.
NOTHING anybody ever writes here will contribute to that. The reason? Because it's uncorroborated hearsay. Yes, I know the argument. Cops read this and then they go there based on this intel. It sounds good on paper, the only problem is it's not true. We have a couple retired cops that live down here and are mongers and without exception they say the same thing. No, they don't use the internet because there's too much bullshit.
Pilot and Jim, by continuing to push and explain over and over why you are doing what you are doing you are effectively discouraging members from what they otherwise might post. Post what you wish, but the convo about this is over. If it continues then I have to put you guys on moderation.
At the end of the day how do I know I'm right? 16 years and still nothing that has ever been written here has ever been used in court. Not one single time.
A2
By the way, I killed Jimmy Hoffa.
And I shot Kennedy, Oswald was my patsy
Plus I got a blowjob from a hooker at FF in Chantilly during a layover at Dullas. I gave her 50 bucks.
See what I mean?
Yeah and that hooker named Candy at FF, she gave me a body cavity search. It was great.
Useless. Hmmmmm. I disagree.
Yes, Krakatoa missed the clue.
Many of us do not explicitly identify locations or providers. Why? -- out of respect for those places / ladies that don't want the direct exposure of this forum (such as my ATF location and provider -- but MMS and Provider frequently remind the customers "no internet" -- and to maintain some discretion from Uncles (who admittedly know all. See all) and monger-trolls who manifest abusive demeanor in writing or in their lack of manners.
I've been to the location reviewed -- I agree with the reviewer -- a nice place, but better massage available nearby (in fact, several locations within the same half-mile.).
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
When it comes to posting reports in the forum, there's only so much a hobbyist can do to protect the AMP or indie provider, the rest is up to them. FWIW, I operate under the assumption that Uncle LEO pretty much knows which MPs are legit and which provide extras. And, if a new place opens up, I'm guessing they believe the worst about it until proven otherwise.
So when it comes to giving the name of a place, I personally don't feel any need to talk in riddles or cryptic clues. Besides, a LEO who works the AMP beat can probably decipher any code better than most mongers. My preference is to discuss service levels and prices (std NOVA, NOVA+, or other) and my general level of satisfaction, but to only discuss specifics of the masseuse via PM with trusted members.
IMHO, it's the nature of the biz that all AMPs will attract unwanted LEO attention at some point. It's the responsibility of the AMP itself, and the individual girls, to be cautious about stings and there's only so much a hobbyist can do. By keeping some specifics on the down-low, Uncle will still have to do their own homework and figure things out on their own.
BTW, whenever I encounter an AMP girl who doesn't do enough to make sure I'm not Uncle LEO, I make sure to have a talk with her (after the end of the session, of course) and I try to give her with a few tips so she can hopefully avoid problems.
By not providing levels of detail akin to a body orifice search, the Pilot, JmSuttr, and I are basically employing a level of circumspection but also encouraging others (whose interest might be piqued by our reports) to follow up with PMs that enquire with meaningful questions. I emphasize this because it's unlikely that any of us have the luxury of answering a lot of trivial questions or providing information that other can find or determine on their own. In this way, the intent of the forum doesn't suffer, but certain information remains more discrete. As JmSuttr says, "There's only so much a monger can do. " However, if any given monger (such as yourself, I'd say) has built up sufficient "board cred," then there's probably little reason to fret about sending a back-channel message.
Roman.
Pressure from somewhere--be it put off neighbors or politicians--is what motivates LE to act, not internet reports. The reports on here may serve as makeweights and post hoc rationalizations on behalf of LE, but if the decision is made to take an establishment down because of a belief it is providing a level of service the LE is not comfortable with, we can be quiet as church mice and it won't change a thing. In the age of Google, "intrepid" journalists can find this site after they learn of a bust. And cops can tell them, "yeah, we saw those monger reports" but doesn't mean this site prompted the bust.
I have a lot of respect for these guys I honestly do, I just disagree with how they think our least favorite uncle works..
NOTHING anybody ever writes here will contribute to that. The reason? Because it's uncorroborated hearsay.
Pilot and Jim, by continuing to push and explain over and over why you are doing what you are doing you are effectively discouraging members from what they otherwise might post. Post what you wish, but the convo about this is over. If it continues then I have to put you guys on moderation.
At the end of the day how do I know I'm right? 16 years and still nothing that has ever been written here has ever been used in court. Not one single time.
Amen. Thank you, Admin2 for the clarification. I also appreciate the contributions of our senior posters but let's encourage members to communicate clearly in English rather than suppress their participation.
I recently decided to get back into things since some places have been shutdown. My first visit was to Oasis in Dumfries as I had heard that Mia worked there. Found out she was gone, but a new girl was there. She was in her mid to late 30's and kind of pretty. Once we got to the room, I should have turned around and left. It was 40 for 30 minutes. She asked for money up front, told me to get undress but to leave underwear on. I thought that was to protect everyone. I gave her the money and she said this is for massage only, not tip. Needless to say, massage sucked. On the flip I would look at her and smile and she said "What are you looking at". Don't waste your time herewith her. If you get the Mamasan you at least get a NOVA finish.
The second spa was much better. Located in the Vienna area that goes by two names, I had a blast. Her name was Vickie, very pretty, about 5"2, maybe 115 lbs, and 34 B's. I opted for 30 minutes, nice soft touch with lots of teasing. I knew it was going to be an awesome time when she took me into the room and gave me a hug and a DFK. When the massage started, I started to rub her thighs and up her skirt to let her know of my intentions. I was able to roam freely but no insertion. After the flip, more roaming UTC both top and bottom, some feeding and more DFK, sucking on her neck which she loved! Very nice finish! After I got dressed, gave me a hug and more DFK. She also started to grind against me as I held her ass, with promise of a lot more next time!
Be safe out there Gents!
Bossanova86
07-03-15, 01:22
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/experience-the-bliss-of-tantric-massage/15678483
I went to go see Ellie in Arlington, simple call / text appointment setup. I honestly made this choice because I was bored and curious and I obviously wasn't going for a 10/10 knockout girl. As my previous reviews on here would suggest, I go see the weird / odd ones. Anyways this was basically a "tantra" experience and I really don't know what that experience entails, but it ultimately amounted to her giving me a super light massage with oils and rubbing spots / points on my body for very long times. For example she was rubbing the spot on my balls / taint for what I swear was a good 15 minutes. Not exciting to the say the least and as the session moved on she started to smother me with her body, she is a larger heavy set women so I guess that's her thing. She gyrated and humped me for quite a bit, lots of heavy breathing. The sessions I paid for was 90 minutes and I really had no idea what I was getting myself into. She was conversational though and seemed to be all there mentally so not a wacko. She whispered a lot in my ears with a lot of erotic banter, I had to go along otherwise it would have been more awkward then it was, I was really just along for the ride.
After all that it came down to the standard NoVA finish, a good rub and tug with oils and I guess she wanted it on her face so that's what she got. I guess if I had to peg this session in a nutshell, she was a light massager with light domination that ended off with a standard nova finish. I won't go see her again the oils she used had a particular smell that I didn't like. I'm also really not in to whatever that was, so I won't be repeating. Things to note if you do go see her, she wants to meet you in the lobby first and will escort you up to the room rather than just give you the room number / floor, so not really discreet to the say the least.
Member #4911
07-03-15, 12:53
My recent visits to Culpeper and Warrenton areas yielded a few findings to the tune of 1) Royal Spa in Culpeper is closed, 2) Zen Reflexology in Culpeper has ceased their introductory pricing and is now. 6/ hr for a massage, and 3) approximate 25-year old Anna was working at Vivi Spa. Happiness abounds, YMMV. Happy 4th of July!
I very seldom have a chance to indulge, but on those rare occasions when I do, I always consult this board first. Seemed only fair to finally contribute in at least a small way.
I recently visited a place in SEVEN Corners that I've enjoyed in the past, in large part because of the quality of massage. This time was no different.
It's in a complex of buildings, but Google Maps gets you there with no problem. I drew Sonya, who was very friendly from the get-go, and paid the standard 0. 8 for an hour. Proceeded to the TS, which was thorough and relaxing. Then back to the room where I asked for a medium-strength massage (which was a good call, because her strong hands might have killed me if I'd asked for anything stronger). Very nice massage, took her time working my back, neck, arms, butt, legs, and feet. It was just on the good side of painful in a working-the-kinks-out sort of way. It would have been worth the price of admission for that alone.
Then the towel disappeared, a little light rubbing, and the flip. No discussion of extras, which was fine since I was only interested in a typical NoVa finish (mission accomplished). Cleaned up with cold towels (not hot), a little more work on my shoulders, and the clock showed my hour was up. I don't honestly know what the going rate is these days, even after RTFF, so I may have overtipped (DUCKING)))), but I gave her 0. 6 for an excellent massage and attitude. Brought me a bottle of cold water and I was on my way. Would certainly repeat if I had the opportunity.
Facilities are clean, and while I occasionally heard muffled conversations and ringing doorbell, it felt very private (the door was closed the whole time). As a first-timer, I hope that was an appropriate amount of info.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/experience-the-bliss-of-tantric-massage/15678483
I went to go see Ellie in Arlington, simple call / text appointment setup. I honestly made this choice because I was bored and curious and I obviously wasn't going for a 10/10 knockout girl. As my previous reviews on here would suggest, I go see the weird / odd ones. Anyways this was basically a "tantra" experience and I really don't know what that experience entails, but it ultimately amounted to her giving me a super light massage with oils and rubbing spots / points on my body for very long times. For example she was rubbing the spot on my balls / taint for what I swear was a good 15 minutes. Not exciting to the say the least and as the session moved on she started to smother me with her body, she is a larger heavy set women so I guess that's her thing. She gyrated and humped me for quite a bit, lots of heavy breathing. The sessions I paid for was 90 minutes and I really had no idea what I was getting myself into. She was conversational though and seemed to be all there mentally so not a wacko. She whispered a lot in my ears with a lot of erotic banter, I had to go along otherwise it would have been more awkward then it was, I was really just along for the ride.
After all that it came down to the standard NoVA finish, a good rub and tug with oils and I guess she wanted it on her face so that's what she got. I guess if I had to peg this session in a nutshell, she was a light massager with light domination that ended off with a standard nova finish. I won't go see her again the oils she used had a particular smell that I didn't like. I'm also really not in to whatever that was, so I won't be repeating. Things to note if you do go see her, she wants to meet you in the lobby first and will escort you up to the room rather than just give you the room number / floor, so not really discreet to the say the least.This is crazy, even fat porkers like this gal can charge and get 100 for a HJ and peeps will pay it. This girl couldn't even get the time of day anywhere else LOL.
PC out.
Guitarman1
07-06-15, 10:18
I very seldom have a chance to indulge, but on those rare occasions when I do, I always consult this board first. Seemed only fair to finally contribute in at least a small way.
I recently visited a place in SEVEN Corners that I've enjoyed in the past, in large part because of the quality of massage. This time was no different.
It's in a complex of buildings, but Google Maps gets you there with no problem. I drew Sonya, who was very friendly from the get-go, and paid the standard 0. 8 for an hour. Proceeded to the TS, which was thorough and relaxing. Then back to the room where I asked for a medium-strength massage (which was a good call, because her strong hands might have killed me if I'd asked for anything stronger). Very nice massage, took her time working my back, neck, arms, butt, legs, and feet. It was just on the good side of painful in a working-the-kinks-out sort of way. It would have been worth the price of admission for that alone.
Then the towel disappeared, a little light rubbing, and the flip. No discussion of extras, which was fine since I was only interested in a typical NoVa finish (mission accomplished). Cleaned up with cold towels (not hot), a little more work on my shoulders, and the clock showed my hour was up. I don't honestly know what the going rate is these days, even after RTFF, so I may have overtipped (DUCKING)))), but I gave her 0. 6 for an excellent massage and attitude. Brought me a bottle of cold water and I was on my way. Would certainly repeat if I had the opportunity.
Facilities are clean, and while I occasionally heard muffled conversations and ringing doorbell, it felt very private (the door was closed the whole time). As a first-timer, I hope that was an appropriate amount of info.Yes that was a good review. I haven't been to this particular place yet but I might check it out. I haven't been straying from my 3 regular places lately so maybe I need to mix it up.
I very seldom have a chance to indulge, Seems like this place has always gotten good reviews, although none recently that I recall. So it's nice to hear things are going well, and nice to hear they finally got their TS working.
I have been a few times, but it sort of fell out of my rotation, though not for any particular reason.
Most people would say that 0. 4 is appropriate for the service you received, but hey, those twenties do tend to slip out when a guy is really relaxed.
So, a couple of weeks ago I stopped by the ATM before visiting one of my favorite spas.
The usual manager was out of town and the place was being hosted by this cute ancient lady with a sense of humor. She would be played in the movies by Lily Tomlin.
Both of the girls working that day were new, so I took pot luck. I laid five jacksons down on the table. (Yes I know, but this practice has always served me well here. It's a high-rent neighborhood. Doctors from the nearby hospital come in and throw lots of money around, I am told. The ladies love me. Deal with it.).
I wasn't overly impressed when Sue first walked in. She's from the short-legged, round faced end of the gene pool, and her fashion sense was of the old Asian lady style. But on closer inspection I discovered taut perfect skin that suggested mid thirties and beautiful natural breasts with sturdy, delicious knobs.
More importantly, she was fun and friendly and susceptible to my charms. She was happy to go with my suggested role reversal. ('Tis better to give than to receive, IMO).
Anyway, no one was fully served, of course, but we probed the boundaries of local custom and both enjoyed our time together. YMMV ofcourse.
Great Expecta
07-07-15, 08:39
I decided to play some more when I got back from Baltimore (on be'more thread) and called the Chinese ladies. I called the same number as before and Sonny answered. I verified a time and venue and ventured out. I then got a call from a number I didn't recognize and it was another Chinese woman who told me to use her number and to not call the other number. When I got to the location, I called for the room and was told Sonny was out for the next 30-40 minutes. I complained and said I had an appointment and demanded compensation. The lady agreed and dropped the price by. 20. When Sonny got back, I got the room number and was met by a middle aged Chinese woman who had a little extra weight. I apologized, declined and let myself out making my way quickly to the car. Within one minute, I got a call from the other number asking me what was wrong and why did I leave. I told the woman the last time I was there, I spent time with an absolutely gorgeous young woman who was amazingly talented. This time I see Sonny who is middle aged and pudgy and if I wanted that, I would have stayed home and fucked my wife. There was a brief silence and she replied. OK. Maybe next time. I asked when the next rotation was coming through and she said in a week and to call back then. I will repeat, but won't accept mamasan over a young nubile woman. Stay safe out there!
So, a couple of weeks ago I stopped by the ATM before visiting one of my favorite spas.
I went back to see Sue and feel obliged to report that she is probably ten years older than what I said earlier. Sometimes my own mileage varies. Nonetheless, we had a great time.
I should have posted this about a month ago but been on the road. I had contacted Norma from Craigslist about 3 months ago and our schedules didn't line up. Finally had free time and made the appointment. Booking is easy, she is located in the Alexandria area in a safe and clean private condominium with a discrete entrance. The massage is truly CMT quality and she will not short you time. Very professional and makes enough small talk to put you at ease throughout. Draping is optional. She uses non-scented oils, not sure if the shower is available- didn't ask. She is more than capable of deep tissue, in fact my traps were sore the next day but I asked for a deep massage and she asks for feedback along the way. A little teasing along the way and an enjoyable NOVA finish was offered. I'd repeat.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5112588956.html
Based on a recent report on Seven, I decided to take a trip to 7 Corners and check it out myself. Last time I was there, I had Mickey and had a great time. Manager said Mickey is gone so I got Candy.
Massage was ok, noVa activities were good, Candy is toned and has a nice body. 80/60 was the rate as she let me "feed". I wished Mickey was there as she was more accommodating. Manager said Hanna is still there but only works here and there (I had her as well and recommend to avoid her. Too greedy).
As I was exiting, I saw the other provider who works there and she was pretty good looking. I have gone this spot on and off for the last several years and I think they tend to have the better looking, and younger, K girls here.
So I have taken two trips to what I believe was referred to as the new place (in Franconia). The first trip was a about a month and a half ago. I arrived and headed upstairs to be greeted by mamasan, an old lady that squeezed my cheeks. Anyway the place seemed, had smallish rooms but was clean. I can't recall the name of the girl who provided service but she was younger but definitely overweight. She provided a good massage and standard NoVa with roaming. It was alright but mostly forgettable.
Second trip I asked for Scarlett or Mei and ended up getting Mei (only one there I think). Anyway the mamasan was a different lady, older but still attractive with nice figure and a tattooed back. She definitely look like she commanded top dollar 20 years ago. Anyway, I skipped the TS and went straight for massage which was okay. Mei definitely seemed to be tired and would seems to take long breaks of barely rubbing anything. It was strange and lasted forever to the point I thought I may fall asleep so I started drafting my review in my head to stay awake. Finally finished after promoting from mamasan and on to the finish. Good technique and great roaming, very nice too busy she was heavy and not much to look at (kinda funny looking but not in the Steve Buschemi way 😏. So I still am not sure if I made it to the right place or not but I am mostly underwhelmed. Anyway in to the next stop.
My recent visits to Culpeper and Warrenton areas yielded a few findings to the tune of 1) Royal Spa in Culpeper is closed, 2) Zen Reflexology in Culpeper has ceased their introductory pricing and is now. 6/ hr for a massage, and 3) approximate 25-year old Anna was working at Vivi Spa. Happiness abounds, YMMV. Happy 4th of July!Looks like Lily in Warrenton is closed. The number has been disconnected.
I went back to see Sue and feel obliged to report that she is probably ten years older than what I said earlier. Sometimes my own mileage varies. Nonetheless, we had a great time.Hilarious! Thanks for the update.
Recently went to the new place in Arlington that has been open for about a month. Was met by a Chinese provider that was late 30's or early 40's. Massage was with oil but a little on the light side for my taste. The ending was proficient with roaming allowed. The only downside to the place is no table shower or stand up shower. Trusted seniors can PM me for more information.
I should have posted this about a month ago but been on the road. I had contacted Norma from Craigslist about 3 months ago and our schedules didn't line up. Finally had free time and made the appointment. Booking is easy, she is located in the Alexandria area in a safe and clean private condominium with a discrete entrance. The massage is truly CMT quality and she will not short you time. Very professional and makes enough small talk to put you at ease throughout. Draping is optional. She uses non-scented oils, not sure if the shower is available- didn't ask. She is more than capable of deep tissue, in fact my traps were sore the next day but I asked for a deep massage and she asks for feedback along the way. A little teasing along the way and an enjoyable NOVA finish was offered. I'd repeat.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5112588956.htmlUsed to visit Norma regularly in a former chapter of my life when she had a studio near Dupont Cir. Haven't visited her since she moved to VA but, IME and unless things have changed, once she's comfortable with you there are some moderate roaming options available. Not a full menu but perhaps a bit more than std NOVA. As always, YMMV, and it's a prerequisite to be both a regular and a gentleman.
I had some extra time this week so I stopped by the place on Grant, entrance in the back. The tech was in her 40's I guess and only stayed for a 1/2. Standard fees, decent massage and usual NOVA. As I was dressing she folded the towel and repositioned it on the table.
Yuck!
Today I visited TK. I've seen very good reviews for Susan, but Susan was not my massage technician -- there was nothing "bad" about my experience, but I thought it a bit bland (but as I always say, YMMV a lot).
For those who have not ventured around the beltway, the TK location is convenient with plenty of parking. Easy (rather standard) two door entrance, with a rather standard interior.
MMS answered the door-bell and escorted me to one of the studios. TK is clean with good smells. Studio rooms and TS are on the small-size but adequate.
My massage technician was a typical "hard to guess" age (but likely mid-late 40's), and her dress highlighted a fine figure. Her face is framed by black just-past shoulder length hair.
She collected the house fee and then escorted me to the TS.
- TS -- Everything was warm, but no time was lost in the TS. Lots of soap was used (I like lots of soap, so this was a plus).
- Massagi -- not unpleasant, but of limited therapeutic value. She worked mostly on my calf-muscles and feet. She eventually used the overhead bar to "walk" on my arms, but no actual back-walk.
- Hot towels -- these were good followed by a few soft touches and a request that I turn over. At the end of the massage (50-minutes actually), she helped me dress and escorted me to the door.
- She did not want to talk much at all (before, during, after). As best I could tell she was not really interested in much. She was happy with the standard tip (actually smiled after counting it and realizing I do not short-change the massage technicians -- it is not worth the hassle of an unhappy departure).
Based on my experience, I'll most likely hobby elsewhere, but as is true in all things.
YMMV Alot.
You may send me PMs if you need details not evident in this review.I visited Susan a month or two ago and she seemed pretty sweet and pleasant that day so maybe she was just having an off day. I had Shiny a few weeks after and I preferred Shiny. She was also extremely. I thought she was better looking than Susan and a bit younger. The only con I'd say about her is that she is a bit sensitive and I'll leave it at that.
For those who haven't ventured up that way they can check out the PG board. Quite different than the Nova area.
BuckshotWatson
07-17-15, 10:07
Used to visit Norma regularly in a former chapter of my life when she had a studio near Dupont Cir. Haven't visited her since she moved to VA but, IME and unless things have changed, once she's comfortable with you there are some moderate roaming options available. Not a full menu but perhaps a bit more than std NOVA. As always, YMMV, and it's a prerequisite to be both a regular and a gentleman.I used to see Norma in DC as well. The location I recall was a dimly lit back room in a funky apartment building. I thought she gave a great massage, and as you say, the additional options were nice. Ditto on what Jm said. Being a regular and a gentleman should pay dividends.
Sorry x 2.
- my review should have been on the MD-PG board.
- My review was not about Susan (I did not see Susan -- I wanted to see her, but MMS sent another girl (PM for details).
I visited Susan a month or two ago and she seemed pretty sweet and pleasant that day so maybe she was just having an off day. I had Shiny a few weeks after and I preferred Shiny. She was also extremely. I thought she was better looking than Susan and a bit younger. The only con I'd say about her is that she is a bit sensitive and I'll leave it at that.
For those who haven't ventured up that way they can check out the PG board. Quite different than the Nova area.
Bossanova86
07-17-15, 22:10
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/eotic-young-hottie-tropical_-naughty-juicy-all-you-need/18192597
This was a pleasant surprise honestly, a Dominican lady who in the ad said 26 years of age, but in person stated 28. I've seen her ad a few times in the Vienna area, but didn't want to make the track out there due to the distance vs risk / quality ratio I weigh in my head. She posted in Manassas today and when I called her it was a combination of phone / text and I found out she was off Centreville Rd which is like 5 minutes away from me so I had to take the dive and check her out. When I arrived in parking she gave me an ETA of 10 minutes because she hadn't arrived there yet, I wasn't too worried as I was also scoping other options in the area just in case I was getting screwed. Just short of waiting the given ten minutes she texted me the room number and I went up. As I arrived, it must have been perfect timing because she was just getting off the elevator and heading to the designated room as I had finished walking up the stairs. Rarely do you ever get to look at the goods before you enter the room and honestly I wasn't disappointed with what I saw.
She is a very pretty woman, probably in her late 20's early 30's with a very decent body, the pictures are of her in the ad are legit. She does a full body to body oil massage (not Nuru) but about as close as your going to get when compared to the "NoVA Nuru" that some of you are accustomed to, so if your looking for that kind of play she does a far better job IMO. Her massage technique isn't all that bad actually and was pleasantly surprised that she could loosen me up in the back after a long day of trail hiking coupled with a quick pick up soccer game I had today. On the flip it was the same experience full body to body with privates touching. Main selling point to me was that she was very enthusiastic and approachable and wasn't all business. She was really into it as much as I was and had a really good attitude. When it came time she let me play with both regions in the nether, but gently, she was spotless and clean, didn't smell at all. In the end it was a tug job, but a damn fine one, finished on her chest and face and then offered a shower afterwards.
I paid for the half, but she offers a full hour at, I can't say with certainty if her service changes based on the time allotment / amount so my review is on the basis of a half hour session. Given that I've had basic service at other establishments her's was a welcome change and I will definitely go back again if she is in the area.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/x-ratedspecialsbodyrubsn-alexandria-killer-body-fetishes-prostate-footscrub-n-morecall-now/16114042
-I knew she used stolen pics before visiting her.
-Similar body type like the photos as in big breasts and big butt.
-She has a slight gut and darker skin. And, she is short.
-The apartment was dirty. I could tell this wasn't her home. Seriously, she needs to clean it.
-Body rub could of been a lot better.
-Upsell for something but she only asks once.
-She kept repeating the same thing thinking it was hot. It was annoying.
She has nice assets but I wouldn't be visiting again.
Bossanova86
07-20-15, 20:50
It's come to my attention that a from a few users on here (through PM's) that have made me question my review, while my review of Arianni is true. I'm beginning to think that that ad circulates more than one latina and that depending on where and when you call you might get a different person on the phone. She might quote a different price from what I've been told and I don't want my review to give people the wrong idea that that's what they are going to get. Your experience / mileage may vary in that is true for most things in this hobby, but my review was for that girl in the pictures by the name of Arianni (if that's even her real name) and the service is exactly what I wrote about her. That being said it might help if you speak a little bit of spanish and (mine is crappy) and she does push for the hourly rate as opposed to the half. Although from my experience (one time) it was a great session and it was only before I undressed did she ask if I wanted the hour (not what I would call a hustle).
NotAThrowAway
07-20-15, 21:09
Hello fellow VA mongers.
I'm coming from Hawaii staying in the NOVA / DC area. Any good AMPs that offers FS you guys would recommend? Appreciate it.
Hello fellow VA mongers.
I'm coming from Hawaii staying in the NOVA / DC area. Any good AMPs that offers FS you guys would recommend? Appreciate it.You will be highly disappointed. Providers come to this area to die off. There's nothing worthwhile here unless you spend $$$ or more.
Spend all of your money in Hawaii and don't expect to see any talent here that you can't see in Hawaii at a cheaper price.
Hello fellow VA mongers.
I'm coming from Hawaii staying in the NOVA / DC area. Any good AMPs that offers FS you guys would recommend? Appreciate it.If you can, make a day trip up 95 to philly. If philly is too far, check out some of the MD boards; a few decent places to visit be / t baltimore and greenbelt.
Happy Guy 2
07-22-15, 01:12
You talk about pictures in her ad. But in the link you supplied there were no pictures. ? What is the story. ? Are you an agent? I am confused.
Help.
HG.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/eotic-young-hottie-tropical_-naughty-juicy-all-you-need/18192597
This was a pleasant surprise honestly, a Dominican lady who in the ad said 26 years of age, but in person stated 28. I've seen her ad a few times in the Vienna area, but didn't want to make the track out there due to the distance vs risk / quality ratio I weigh in my head. She posted in Manassas today and when I called her it was a combination of phone / text and I found out she was off Centreville Rd which is like 5 minutes away from me so I had to take the dive and check her out. When I arrived in parking she gave me an ETA of 10 minutes because she hadn't arrived there yet, I wasn't too worried as I was also scoping other options in the area just in case I was getting screwed. Just short of waiting the given ten minutes she texted me the room number and I went up. As I arrived, it must have been perfect timing because she was just getting off the elevator and heading to the designated room as I had finished walking up the stairs. Rarely do you ever get to look at the goods before you enter the room and honestly I wasn't disappointed with what I saw.
She is a very pretty woman, probably in her late 20's early 30's with a very decent body, the pictures are of her in the ad are legit. She does a full body to body oil massage (not Nuru) but about as close as your going to get when compared to the "NoVA Nuru" that some of you are accustomed to, so if your looking for that kind of play she does a far better job IMO. Her massage technique isn't all that bad actually and was pleasantly surprised that she could loosen me up in the back after a long day of trail hiking coupled with a quick pick up soccer game I had today. On the flip it was the same experience full body to body with privates touching. Main selling point to me was that she was very enthusiastic and approachable and wasn't all business. She was really into it as much as I was and had a really good attitude. When it came time she let me play with both regions in the nether, but gently, she was spotless and clean, didn't smell at all. In the end it was a tug job, but a damn fine one, finished on her chest and face and then offered a shower afterwards.
I paid for the half, but she offers a full hour at, I can't say with certainty if her service changes based on the time allotment / amount so my review is on the basis of a half hour session. Given that I've had basic service at other establishments her's was a welcome change and I will definitely go back again if she is in the area.
MrSunnyHills
07-22-15, 06:45
There were pics a few days back when I looked. Probably changed the ad. I don't know Bossanova but seems he's been around for awhile so I have no reason to doubt him. But often these type of Latina places have multiple gals cycling through so it's a typical YMMV case undoubtedly.
You talk about pictures in her ad. But in the link you supplied there were no pictures. ? What is
the story. ? Are you an agent? I am confused.
Help.
HG.
You talk about pictures in her ad. But in the link you supplied there were no pictures. ? What is the story. ? Are you an agent? I am confused.
Help.
HG.I am fairly confident that Boss is a real monger with no affiliation to these girls. Plus the ad had pics when he posted the other day. I'm certain that the ad got updated without pics.
Bossanova86
07-22-15, 08:07
You talk about pictures in her ad. But in the link you supplied there were no pictures. ? What is the story. ? Are you an agent? I am confused.
Help.
HG.I'm no agent, like the others have said the ad's change all the time thus why I provide the name just in case you guys need to do a bit more searching to find the girl. I've been mongering for awhile now and an even longer lurker before I decided to start giving back to the community. No reason to doubt my reviews, I take my reviews very seriously as they are an extension of my credibility and I would much rather be considered a trustworthy source then a less than reliable poster that offers nothing back.
You talk about pictures in her ad. But in the link you supplied there were no pictures. ? What is the story. ? Are you an agent? I am confused.
HG.BossaNova is the real deal. To call him an agent because some hooker has edited her ad is sloppy, if not slanderous. RTFF.
You talk about pictures in her ad. But in the link you supplied there were no pictures. ? What is the story. ? Are you an agent? I am confused.
Help.
HG.When a provider posts a BP ad she retains ongoing access to make edits. Some changes will incur an additional charge and some are free. The link to the ad remains the same even if edits are made. That's one reason why it's advisable to include other info, such as name or digits, in addition to the BP ad link.
And that's also a reason why forum members, and especially established and contributing seniors with a posting history that can be checked, should be given the benefit of the doubt before jumping to unwarranted conclusions.
There were pics a few days back when I looked. Probably changed the ad. I don't know Bossanova but seems he's been around for awhile so I have no reason to doubt him. But often these type of Latina places have multiple gals cycling through so it's a typical YMMV case undoubtedly.I saw the pictures two days ago, but yesterday they were gone. Don't worry, Bossanova is a legit and reliable poster.
Is a two hand massage worth the extra cost?
I'm just curious. I have never had one.
Is a two hand massage worth the extra cost?
I'm just curious. I have never had one.Assuming that's the case, IMHO 4-hand is not worth the extra $ except under a few very specific conditions:
One is if you find a review or report which gives high marks to the two providers offering the massage. And that review or report should be about the two providers working together, not separately. Just because two providers might be highly-rated as individuals is no guarantee they will have good chemistry together and with the client. Once in a while you might read a review or hear about a pair of masseuses who work very well together and provide an exceptional session. If that's the case, I would jump at the opportunity.
Another is if you're trying out a new spa and want to check out more than one masseuse as intel for future visits. In a 4-hand massage, you might get a better sense (prettier, more playful, better personality, etc.) of which masseuse you would enjoy seeing again.
And the last circumstance that I can think of is if a 4-hand session is offered at a good discount. Just remember to tip each girl according to the regular rate, not the discounted amount.
I've had 4-hand massages on a number of occasions and while it's enjoyable (I'm a huge fan of massage, in general) it isn't twice as enjoyable as a 2-hand massage from a good masseuse. And for FBSM, it's been my experience that girls are more adventurous and willing when they are alone with you than they are likely to be with one of their co-workers in the room at the same time. They will see you as a client only occasionally but they will see each other every day. And spa girls, especially AMP ones, are very prone to gossip. So if mamasan or the masseuse suggests 4-hand, you should recognize that the primary reason they're probably doing it is to get more $ out of you. I would personally refuse such an offer or I would make a counteroffer at a discounted price.
No simple answer or formula and I would certainly like to hear about the (good or bad) 4-hand experiences of other forum members.
Assuming that's the case, IMHO 4-hand is not worth the extra $ except under a few very specific conditions:
One is if you find a review or report which gives high marks to the two providers offering the massage. And that review or report should be about the two providers working together, not separately. Just because two providers might be highly-rated as individuals is no guarantee they will have good chemistry together and with the client. Once in a while you might read a review or hear about a pair of masseuses who work very well together and provide an exceptional session. If that's the case, I would jump at the opportunity.
Another is if you're trying out a new spa and want to check out more than one masseuse as intel for future visits. In a 4-hand massage, you might get a better sense (prettier, more playful, better personality, etc.) of which masseuse you would enjoy seeing again.
And the last circumstance that I can think of is if a 4-hand session is offered at a good discount. Just remember to tip each girl according to the regular rate, not the discounted amount.
I've had 4-hand massages on a number of occasions and while it's enjoyable (I'm a huge fan of massage, in general) it isn't twice as enjoyable as a 2-hand massage from a good masseuse. And for FBSM, it's been my experience that girls are more adventurous and willing when they are alone with you than they are likely to be with one of their co-workers in the room at the same time. They will see you as a client only occasionally but they will see each other every day. And spa girls, especially AMP ones, are very prone to gossip. So if mamasan or the masseuse suggests 4-hand, you should recognize that the primary reason they're probably doing it is to get more $ out of you. I would personally refuse such an offer or I would make a counteroffer at a discounted price.
No simple answer or formula and I would certainly like to hear about the (good or bad) 4-hand experiences of other forum members.Yes, I meant 4-hand massages.
Thanks for the input.
MrSunnyHills
07-25-15, 14:37
I've had it 3 times. The first, in LA years ago, was the best. Was at a regular AMP (Korean) with a semi-regular. It was a slow early afternoon appointment. She asked if her friend could join. I asked how much extra and she said just a bit of tip.
Sure enough, ended up with one sitting on my face, with the other giving me a great BBBJ. And some nice switching around. (but this was the "good ole days" In UK a couple of times. Both I had read reviews about. THey were different Thai. I knew one would be pretty conservative, though would have a good finish. In one case, one was really good at massage, the other not so much. I think they may have done it partially as a "security" measure. The other was more sensual and they were a decent team. But as JS mentioned, without intel, it's hard to imagine that it would be a great deal. Especially if you can use the same money for 2 visits.
Assuming that's the case, IMHO 4-hand is not worth the extra $ except under a few very specific conditions:
One is if you find a review or report which gives high marks to the two providers offering the massage. And that review or report should be about the two providers working together, not separately. Just because two providers might be highly-rated as individuals is no guarantee they will have good chemistry together and with the client. Once in a while you might read a review or hear about a pair of masseuses who work very well together and provide an exceptional session. If that's the case, I would jump at the opportunity.
Another is if you're trying out a new spa and want to check out more than one masseuse as intel for future visits. In a 4-hand massage, you might get a better sense (prettier, more playful, better personality, etc.) of which masseuse you would enjoy seeing again.
And the last circumstance that I can think of is if a 4-hand session is offered at a good discount. Just remember to tip each girl according to the regular rate, not the discounted amount.
I've had 4-hand massages on a number of occasions and while it's enjoyable (I'm a huge fan of massage, in general) it isn't twice as enjoyable as a 2-hand massage from a good masseuse. And for FBSM, it's been my experience that girls are more adventurous and willing when they are alone with you than they are likely to be with one of their co-workers in the room at the same time. They will see you as a client only occasionally but they will see each other every day. And spa girls, especially AMP ones, are very prone to gossip. So if mamasan or the masseuse suggests 4-hand, you should recognize that the primary reason they're probably doing it is to get more $ out of you. I would personally refuse such an offer or I would make a counteroffer at a discounted price.
No simple answer or formula and I would certainly like to hear about the (good or bad) 4-hand experiences of other forum members.
Happy Guy 2
07-26-15, 23:46
I'm no agent, like the others have said the ad's change all the time thus why I provide the name just in case you guys need to do a bit more searching to find the girl. I've been mongering for awhile now and an even longer lurker before I decided to start giving back to the community. No reason to doubt my reviews, I take my reviews very seriously as they are an extension of my credibility and I would much rather be considered a trustworthy source then a less than reliable poster that offers nothing back.Looks like from all the feedback, I owe Bossanova86 an apology for doubting his review and comments.
Sorry,
Happy Guy 2.
Big Jizzle
07-27-15, 01:29
Visited a spa off of Sunset Hills rd in Reston near Mctacohut. Clean place, the mamasan was cordial. . 80 for door fee. Unfortunately I missed practitioners name, but she was a pretty k girl with nice bees with a spinner body. Nice TS, cleaning all vital areas. Average massage. On flip, she showed off the bees, with plenty of feeding and roaming. Nice nips, seems like she was into it. Standard Nova finish. Been there a couple of times since, but haven't been able to link up with her again though. Will visit again, perhaps make my regular spot since its conveniently close. AMP's are a way safer bet these days than BP escorts since the uptick in LE stings.
Stay safe,
Uncle J.
Does anyone know if Anna is still at ViVi?
Does anyone know if Anna is still at ViVi?I went by there a couple of days ago. The sign said open, but door was locked and no one answered the phone and no message. Just kept ringing. That was Tuesday.
Sorry to post this administrative reminder.
JmSuttr. Your mailbox is full.Deleted PMs to make some room. Thanks.
Visited a spa off of Sunset Hills rd in Reston near Mctacohut. Clean place, the mamasan was cordial. . 80 for door fee. Unfortunately I missed practitioners name, but she was a pretty k girl with nice bees with a spinner body. Nice TS, cleaning all vital areas. Average massage. On flip, she showed off the bees, with plenty of feeding and roaming. Nice nips, seems like she was into it. Standard Nova finish. Been there a couple of times since, but haven't been able to link up with her again though. Will visit again, perhaps make my regular spot since its conveniently close. AMP's are a way safer bet these days than BP escorts since the uptick in LE stings.
Stay safe,
Uncle J.AMPs may arguably be safer than answering a BP ad for some unverified, unreviewed provider, but they're still subject to raids and if you're visiting one at the wrong time you can find yourself in a difficult position.
From everything I've observed over the years, the safest arrangement with respect to avoiding Uncle is to host an outcall provider at your own place. Since LE needs a high degree of control in order to maintain safety, they're unlikely to send someone into an uncontrolled environment. But outcall, unfortunately, creates a different set of risks (which have been discussed and debated at length in this forum) and is especially not a good idea if you've never seen the provider before.
So the next safest option is to do enough homework to ensure you're dealing with a provider who is real and hopefully has some reviews out there. Nothing is 100% guaranteed in the hobby but that arrangement offers the best risk / reward ratio, IMHO.
Big Daddy Don
08-01-15, 09:14
Went by Imperial off 236 the other day. Haven't been there in while but it used to be a go to place. The skinny little mamma who runs the place is kind of cute and used to really enjoy the DATY treatment. This time however I got someone different. Didn't catch the name, sorry. Bit chunky but I figured what the heck I had always been treated good here. Mediocre massage but she was not afraid to give little attention to the back door. Come flip time I told her it was her turn, she wanted $100 minimum. I laughed and let her know that chubby little box was not gold plated. She looked disappointed but I just laid back, closed my eyes and let her work the tension out of my loins for $40 if she didn't want to have a good time. It still worked for me. Probably won't go back though.
I paid a visit to Garden Spa. Avoid at all costs! One of many lazy KAMP rip-off places where a 30 min session turns into 15 minutes and the providers are expecting a 60 tip for basic noVA services.
I didn't ask for my provider's name as I didn't really care for her after she made a fuss for not getting 60 tip. My 30 min session turned into about 15 minutes. She let me nurse on her attributes like a baby but no way I'm giving 60 for being shortchanged on time. And the massage was ok, nothing to write home about. My provider was very petite, like 5', if that, with A cups and a smoker's voice. Not worth the money.
There is another monget sites dedicated to just MPs and this place has a rating of 4 out of 5 stars with many monger reviews so not sure how mongers think this is a great place to visit.
Pilot Aviator, my apologies for the missed PM. I was on vacation the last three weeks and just returned home to see your pm. My PM box was also too full to respond. I hope that you went and had a good time. I will empty my pm box within the next 24 hours. Once again my apologies.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Pilot Aviator
08-04-15, 21:00
JW in the role of CPT Nathan Brittles, USA, Calvary was known to say "Never apologize, it is a sign of weakness" (she wore a yellow ribbon). It is also Gibb's Rule #6.
So, Comrade Propilot, rule #6 variationA. Never apologize for taking a three-week vacation!
Hope you had a great time. Welcome back.
I am sure you were always nice to the ladies!
PA.
Pilot Aviator, my apologies for the missed PM. I was on vacation the last three weeks and just returned home to see your pm. My PM box was also too full to respond. I hope that you went and had a good time. I will empty my pm box within the next 24 hours. Once again my apologies.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Boulder1028
08-05-15, 08:49
I paid a visit to Garden Spa. Avoid at all costs! One of many lazy KAMP rip-off places where a 30 min session turns into 15 minutes and the providers are expecting a 60 tip for basic noVA services.
I didn't ask for my provider's name as I didn't really care for her after she made a fuss for not getting 60 tip. My 30 min session turned into about 15 minutes. She let me nurse on her attributes like a baby but no way I'm giving 60 for being shortchanged on time. And the massage was ok, nothing to write home about. My provider was very petite, like 5', if that, with A cups and a smoker's voice. Not worth the money.
There is another monget sites dedicated to just MPs and this place has a rating of 4 out of 5 stars with many monger reviews so not sure how mongers think this is a great place to visit.Sounds like you had young / mya. I've always had good experiences with her. I've never done 30 minute though. Linda is great, not a pro massage by any means, thicker and not very cute in the face, but for. 8 tip she will drop the clothes and give the backdoor attention if you enjoy that. I know I did.
I used to see Norma in DC as well. The location I recall was a dimly lit back room in a funky apartment building. I thought she gave a great massage, and as you say, the additional options were nice. Ditto on what Jm said. Being a regular and a gentleman should pay dividends.I am currently one of Norma's regular clients. She is a sweet lady and an awesome massage therapist. Definitely professionally trained and offers the best massage I have ever had either inside or outside the hobby.
She never posts pictures, except of her massage table, but I think she has a very pretty face and a sexy body. To top it off, I have a "thing" for Latina MILFs. So I am a big fan!
Be a gentleman and after a couple of visits she gets more comfortable. Tipping well never hurts, either. But look at it as an investment that will pay dividends later. With that being said, the extras are somewhat sparse. At least they have been for me. But every little bit helps make the session more enjoyable. And the fact is, her actual massage technique alone is worth the benjy, which is very reasonable. As always, YMMV.
I can definitively say that she does not have a shower available. So clean up before you get there. And you can always PM me for more details.
The.
JW in the role of CPT Nathan Brittles, USA, Calvary was known to say "Never apologize, it is a sign of weakness" (she wore a yellow ribbon). It is also Gibb's Rule #6.
So, Comrade Propilot, rule #6 variationA. Never apologize for taking a three-week vacation!
Hope you had a great time. Welcome back.
I am sure you were always nice to the ladies!
PA.Thank you. My inbox is cleared my friend. When I returned from vacation, I went to TK. See my latest report on the PG Board.
Propilot-Always check your six.
With respect to the many who may disagree -- There are high quality experiences in NoVA.
In the past month, I've had great experiences already reported on several boards (and a couple of average / blah experiences) - but today, today I experienced a joyous hour with an ATF.
This was high quality care -- care with a Capitol see -- because, she "cared" that I have a great session. She "cared" the shower was warm and soapy.
She cared the massage was deep in the areas needing it, and lighter in the other areas.
Some will ask "how can I get this level of care" - the answer is simple -- be a good (repeat) client. Be a friend of the manager (MMS). Be friendly to all the staff. Be reasonably generous.
Any week can be a week to celebrate. Pick a special one and share it with your ATF.
I had a great time, but as is true in all things.
YMMV Alot.
Roamin Roman
08-08-15, 03:52
Last week, I paid yet another visit to Care Therapy on Backlick. This time, the manager sent in Mimi, who had taken care of me on a previous visit a couple months ago. The massage was, like the last time, solid and thorough, and there was no shorting of the full hour's time. And the finish, while not a BJ or FS, was also exceptionally enjoyable. The top and bottom parts of the uniform came off and, after some DATY (which she enjoyed along with a vibe held against her clit, making her shudder and cum a couple times), Mimi employed what's best described as a "labial glide". She doesn't allow penetration, but has you slide your cock between her lubricated pussy lips until you blast-off. It's a very nice form of modified NoVa finish.
That's the good part, and it was, admittedly, very good.
However, she felt a $ tip was warranted for that kind of finish. (Yes, shame on both of us, for failing to agree on this ahead of time. As adults, we wound up settling on a lower amount than she wanted, but a higher amount than I preferred. Fortunately, since I had brought limited funds in my pocket, I could prove that what she received was all I was truly able to tip.) And that's the bad part. With house fees now at. 8 (or. 7 for a few places), a $ tip puts the total at $. 8 for each such visit. That amount is often more than what FS options cost for BP / CL dates (or, at some AMPs, as well).
So, the dilemma (actually, a trilemma) is this:
(1) Continue visiting this AMP but request another therapist and, by so doing, sew resentment from Mimi?
(2) Continue visiting this AMP and, whenever the MMS sends in Mimi, just stay with "normal NoVa" and claim that I don't have the extra cash to spare for her enhanced ending?
(3) Cease patronizing this AMP, whose therapists provide a very nice massage and ending (along with the full hour) and whose location is convenient?
There's really no dilemma for me. I'm going to take Care Therapy off of my rotation for an extended period and visit other AMPs further afield. Mimi is fun and entertaining, but I'm not willing to go with solid gold tipping for silver-plated service. For anyone who has not tried her services, I would recommend it only from the standpoint of the uniqueness of the finish. But, as regular fare, it'll make a man poorer and not that much more fulfilled.
FBAS: 7 / 6½ / 6½ / 8½.
Vitals (with some estimates): About 5'-4", 130 lbs. , 34-see, early 40's, medium dark hair to just above shoulder level, strong hands, good English and conversation.
Please send a PM if you have any questions. Contributing members, as usual, will receive replies commensurate with their level of participation, and Senior members will receive priority replies and details.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. And always maintain proper decorum in the Senatorial chambers and baths.
Roamin' Roman.
As adults, we wound up settling on a lower amount than she wanted, but a higher amount than I preferred. Fortunately, since I had brought limited funds in my pocket, I could prove that what she received was all I was truly able to tip.) And that's the bad part. With house fees now at. 8 (or. 7 for a few places), a $ tip puts the total at $. 8 for each such visit. That amount is often more than what FS options cost for BP / CL dates (or, at some AMPs, as well).
They must always give me the sucker menu, because that doesn't sound like a bad price for the service you describe. Please tell me where I can get FS at an AMP for $.
Roamin Roman
08-09-15, 03:26
They must always give me the sucker menu, because that doesn't sound like a bad price for the service you describe. Please tell me where I can get FS at an AMP for $.Well, I get the "sucker" menu, too, but in the good way. : the.
Send me a PM, and I'll share the names of some DC-area AMPs where I've gotten FS for a Franklin. (As far as I'm concerned, that's the going rate for FS in the DC area.).
Roman.
GuyInTheCorner
08-10-15, 08:28
On your recommendations visited care this weekend. Don't like the lack of table shower, and the masseuse I had (Sarah) wasn't very attractive or fit. However, from start to visit everyone was very welcoming and attentive. Definitely the type of place to try if you are looking for better than average service. (I didn't have the tipping issues reported below, and I felt the tip I provided was commensurate with the attention and enthusiasm given.).
Roamin Roman
08-10-15, 18:01
On your recommendations visited care this weekend. Don't like the lack of table shower, and the masseuse I had (Sarah) wasn't very attractive or fit. However, from start to visit everyone was very welcoming and attentive. Definitely the type of place to try if you are looking for better than average service. (I didn't have the tipping issues reported below, and I felt the tip I provided was commensurate with the attention and enthusiasm given.).Glad you found Care to your liking, amigo. FWIW, the tipping issue that I mentioned in my earlier post was only with regard to Mimi. You will be almost certain to receive the full hour's time for your house fee at Care Therapy, and you will generally receive above average (and even excellent) service by NoVa standards.
Sarah sounds like she might have just arrived, because her name doesn't ring a bell. If she continues to provide great service, then more power (and fun) to you.
Stay safe and, as another notable monger on these boards advises, "Be kind to the ladies.".
Roman.
Last week, I paid yet another visit to Care Therapy on Backlick. This time, the manager sent in Mimi, who had taken care of me on a previous visit a couple months ago. The massage was, like the last time, solid and thorough, and there was no shorting of the full hour's time. And the finish, while not a BJ or FS, was also exceptionally enjoyable. The top and bottom parts of the uniform came off and, after some DATY (which she enjoyed along with a vibe held against her clit, making her shudder and cum a couple times), Mimi employed what's best described as a "labial glide". She doesn't allow penetration, but has you slide your cock between her lubricated pussy lips until you blast-off. It's a very nice form of modified NoVa finish.
That's the good part, and it was, admittedly, very good.
However, she felt a $ tip was warranted for that kind of finish. (Yes, shame on both of us, for failing to agree on this ahead of time. As adults, we wound up settling on a lower amount than she wanted, but a higher amount than I preferred. Fortunately, since I had brought limited funds in my pocket, I could prove that what she received was all I was truly able to tip.) And that's the bad part. With house fees now at. 8 (or. 7 for a few places), a $ tip puts the total at $. 8 for each such visit. That amount is often more than what FS options cost for BP / CL dates (or, at some AMPs, as well).
So, the dilemma (actually, a trilemma) is this:
(1) Continue visiting this AMP but request another therapist and, by so doing, sew resentment from Mimi?
(2) Continue visiting this AMP and, whenever the MMS sends in Mimi, just stay with "normal NoVa" and claim that I don't have the extra cash to spare for her enhanced ending?
(3) Cease patronizing this AMP, whose therapists provide a very nice massage and ending (along with the full hour) and whose location is convenient?
There's really no dilemma for me. I'm going to take Care Therapy off of my rotation for an extended period and visit other AMPs further afield. Mimi is fun and entertaining, but I'm not willing to go with solid gold tipping for silver-plated service. For anyone who has not tried her services, I would recommend it only from the standpoint of the uniqueness of the finish. But, as regular fare, it'll make a man poorer and not that much more fulfilled.
FBAS: 7 / 6 / 6 / 8.
Vitals (with some estimates): About 5'-4", 130 lbs. , 34-see, early 40's, medium dark hair to just above shoulder level, strong hands, good English and conversation.
Please send a PM if you have any questions. Contributing members, as usual, will receive replies commensurate with their level of participation, and Senior members will receive priority replies and details.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. And always maintain proper decorum in the Senatorial chambers and baths.
Roamin' Roman.RR,
Unless you want to marry or have her move in, it's just business to these gals unless they fall emotionally for you. I have had 2 in my life that moved in. First one was a Thai gal at I meet at M Spa years ago. Great fucking skills but a nightmare when she got drunk.
Second one well still in progress LOL.
PC out.
Last month I had set up a 9 pm weeknight apt with her. I had previous conversations with her and always found her to be pleasant and easy to talk with, but our schedules never meshed. I talked with her that morning around 930 am and she confirmed that she would be available: "No problem. I am working late tonight". I said I would touch base around 8 pm to get the final directions to her place. She said she was near Landmark. That night I called at 810 pm from Landmark Mall and got her voicemail. I left a message saying I was on for the 9 pm. Over the next hour I called and texted numerous times and never heard back from her. At 920 pm I gave up and moved into Plan be mode. I was disappointed as my trips to NOVA are rare and my resources limited. I would actually try again but. Not without some encouragement from her.
HardToTame
08-11-15, 09:08
Hello All,
Just going to give a list of recent visits.
Whole Health, great massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jojo, ok massage, normal flip and nursing, very agressive tip 60.
Sunshine therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jv nails, no massage turned away at door.
Imperial, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty, hot body amy. 100 tip.
Swan, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Sunny yg, good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Edsall road, not good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Franconia, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty. 80 tip.
Mm wellness, not good massage, normal flip, nursing. 60 tip hot girl.
Angel nails, terrible massage, nothing else. 20 tip.
Spring therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Ct massage, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Hot chick bebe 60 tip.
Sun therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Cute chick, 60 tip.
Evergreen, good massage, normal flip, nursing, nice lady 60 tip.
Crystal spa, ok massage, normal flip, 40 tip.
Oriental natural health, great massage, normal flip, nursing, 60 tip.
Enliven, bad massage, normal flip, agressive tip. 40 tip.
Blue Therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, aggresive tip. 60 tip. Cute girl.
Most of the therapist are 40 or older and not hot, but I keep looking and add to list. I do not check emails often.
JudasPreist
08-11-15, 10:15
I'm heading to your neck of the woods for some are&are for a week or so. Mostly be in the Manassas area. Anyone familiar with the local AMPs? Would really love to find some new trim and get a good rubdown with a possible shower but I'm not picky.
Happy Guy 2
08-11-15, 12:04
I have been on a lot of vacations this year, since retirement, but home now for a little while. For those of you that recognize my handle, please PM me places and therapists that are nice and can make me happy, Tysons & Fairfax areas preferred, but all considered (if you remember my Warrenton report. On my travels driving South). I like nice friendly gals that enjoy what they do. I'm not too demanding, just like a pleasurable shared time.
Thanks in advance.
Happy Guy 2.
Ted Williams
08-11-15, 13:50
I had some extra time this week so I stopped by the place on Grant, entrance in the back. The tech was in her 40's I guess and only stayed for a 1/2. Standard fees, decent massage and usual NOVA. As I was dressing she folded the towel and repositioned it on the table.
Yuck!Shoot! I missed your post on this before my most recent visit. Usually I am greeted by June or Kandi when I have visited, but they are supposedly on vacation. This may explain what is happening now here or in there absences. I was greeted by a younger lady this time with shoulder length hair and be size cups. She called her self "part timer" and wouldn't tell me her name for some reason. Anyway everything was basically the same as usual and it finished with standard NoVA. There was the addition of the headlights being on in such a dark room and I noticed a Bush needed trimming too while I was roaming. It may be that she is being lazy with folding the towels and reusing them or she was waiting until later to change them when I left. Note: She didn't change anything before I left, but this is the first time it's happened to me here.
Good day.
Is normal flip = HE?
Hello All,
Just going to give a list of recent visits.
Whole Health, great massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jojo, ok massage, normal flip and nursing, very agressive tip 60.
Sunshine therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jv nails, no massage turned away at door.
Imperial, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty, hot body amy. 100 tip.
Swan, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Sunny yg, good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Edsall road, not good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Franconia, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty. 80 tip.
Mm wellness, not good massage, normal flip, nursing. 60 tip hot girl.
Angel nails, terrible massage, nothing else. 20 tip.
Spring therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Ct massage, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Hot chick bebe 60 tip.
Sun therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Cute chick, 60 tip.
Evergreen, good massage, normal flip, nursing, nice lady 60 tip.
Crystal spa, ok massage, normal flip, 40 tip.
Oriental natural health, great massage, normal flip, nursing, 60 tip.
Enliven, bad massage, normal flip, agressive tip. 40 tip.
Blue Therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, aggresive tip. 60 tip. Cute girl.
Most of the therapist are 40 or older and not hot, but I keep looking and add to list. I do not check emails often.
Hello All,
Just going to give a list of recent visits.
Man combines 20 reports into one. I like it.
WebDog2015
08-12-15, 01:06
Shoot! I missed your post on this before my most recent visit. Usually I am greeted by June or Kandi when I have visited, but they are supposedly on vacation. This may explain what is happening now here or in there absences. I was greeted by a younger lady this time with shoulder length hair and be size cups. She called her self "part timer" and wouldn't tell me her name for some reason. Anyway everything was basically the same as usual and it finished with standard NoVA. There was the addition of the headlights being on in such a dark room and I noticed a Bush needed trimming too while I was roaming. It may be that she is being lazy with folding the towels and reusing them or she was waiting until later to change them when I left. Note: She didn't change anything before I left, but this is the first time it's happened to me here.
Good day.I am ALWAYS greeted by "Chi Chi" and made the mistake of the first time of telling I thought she was the Mamasan. I have been there a half dozen times since March, always Chi Chi answering and the better looking one (yet still old) with tits teases by walking in only after I have started with Chi Chi. I think that is June. Who is Candi? I have gone back in over a month as I sick of Chi Chi.
Since the OP mentions nursing in the same sentence with "normal flip," I assume it means HE is included. But it would be nice for him to confirm that.
Is normal flip = HE?
HardToTame
08-12-15, 13:05
Yes hand relief.
WebDog2015
08-12-15, 13:06
I have agree, kudos on the efficient and well-done report!
I know Imperial but never made it in as it is kind of a hike. But I am really looking for a quality DATY opportunity. I miss the quality DATY that I used to get a Merrifield Wellness.
Was that a blue bird or would you recommend?
Hello All,
Just going to give a list of recent visits.
Whole Health, great massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jojo, ok massage, normal flip and nursing, very agressive tip 60.
Sunshine therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jv nails, no massage turned away at door.
Imperial, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty, hot body amy. 100 tip.
Swan, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Sunny yg, good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Edsall road, not good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Franconia, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty. 80 tip.
Mm wellness, not good massage, normal flip, nursing. 60 tip hot girl.
Angel nails, terrible massage, nothing else. 20 tip.
Spring therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Ct massage, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Hot chick bebe 60 tip.
Sun therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Cute chick, 60 tip.
Evergreen, good massage, normal flip, nursing, nice lady 60 tip.
Crystal spa, ok massage, normal flip, 40 tip.
Oriental natural health, great massage, normal flip, nursing, 60 tip.
Enliven, bad massage, normal flip, agressive tip. 40 tip.
Blue Therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, aggresive tip. 60 tip. Cute girl.
Most of the therapist are 40 or older and not hot, but I keep looking and add to list. I do not check emails often.
HardToTame
08-12-15, 13:16
Normal flip is hand relief.
Which one is your Favorites?
Hello All,
Just going to give a list of recent visits.
Whole Health, great massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jojo, ok massage, normal flip and nursing, very agressive tip 60.
Sunshine therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jv nails, no massage turned away at door.
Imperial, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty, hot body amy. 100 tip.
Swan, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Sunny yg, good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Edsall road, not good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Franconia, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty. 80 tip.
Mm wellness, not good massage, normal flip, nursing. 60 tip hot girl.
Angel nails, terrible massage, nothing else. 20 tip.
Spring therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Ct massage, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Hot chick bebe 60 tip.
Sun therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Cute chick, 60 tip.
Evergreen, good massage, normal flip, nursing, nice lady 60 tip.
Crystal spa, ok massage, normal flip, 40 tip.
Oriental natural health, great massage, normal flip, nursing, 60 tip.
Enliven, bad massage, normal flip, agressive tip. 40 tip.
Blue Therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, aggresive tip. 60 tip. Cute girl.
Most of the therapist are 40 or older and not hot, but I keep looking and add to list. I do not check emails often.
Jackfrost K4
08-13-15, 13:56
First time KAMP visitor, went to the spa in Reston, off Sunset Hills a couple of weeks ago. Can't remember therapist's name. Maybe Anna? - but do remember low cowboy boots she was wearing because, well, why cowboy boots in NoVa? Mid-40's, okay looking.
Started with TS, okay massage, NoVa flip with prostate massage (unrequested but welcomed), topless at my prompting but seemed up enthused by my roaming. Went the full hour. . 8 door fee, tipped. 8 for the prostate massage. I know, probably overtipped but she did do that well.
Still, unsure if it (or any other AMP) is worth a second visit be / see value for money too close to BP escort rates. Possible I had overly high expectations. Live and learn.
WebDog2015
08-13-15, 19:33
First time KAMP visitor, went to the spa in Reston, off Sunset Hills a couple of weeks ago. Can't remember therapist's name. Maybe Anna? - but do remember low cowboy boots she was wearing because, well, why cowboy boots in NoVa? Mid-40's, okay looking.
Started with TS, okay massage, NoVa flip with prostate massage (unrequested but welcomed), topless at my prompting but seemed up enthused by my roaming. Went the full hour. . 8 door fee, tipped. 8 for the prostate massage. I know, probably overtipped but she did do that well.
Still, unsure if it (or any other AMP) is worth a second visit be / see value for money too close to BP escort rates. Possible I had overly high expectations. Live and learn.My is experience is that place is so lame I have never bothered to report. Been there twice, don't know why it wasn't once. Older providers, not fugly but older (you say "mid-40's" but in fairness was probably 50's), lame service level, and lack of enthusiasm as you indicate (the characteristic Korea warmth).
And $160 for a HE with some roaming is DEFINITELY too much. You could have FS with MSOG *and* a massage for $160. For f##k's sake lets keep the standard NOVA tip to $60 or less. Even a respected mamasan told me that we should NEVER tip the girls more than $50. She also said most of the Korean women have gambling debts down in Annandale and that is why they work -- and why they're so unenthusiastic.
My is experience is that place is so lame I have never bothered to report. Been there twice, don't know why it wasn't once. Older providers, not fugly but older (you say "mid-40's" but in fairness was probably 50's), lame service level, and lack of enthusiasm as you indicate (the characteristic Korea warmth).
And $160 for a HE with some roaming is DEFINITELY too much. You could have FS with MSOG *and* a massage for $160. For f##k's sake lets keep the standard NOVA tip to $60 or less. Even a respected mamasan told me that we should NEVER tip the girls more than $50. She also said most of the Korean women have gambling debts down in Annandale and that is why they work -- and why they're so unenthusiastic.I have to agree. I am surprised so many mongers are satisfied with these older average looking ladies in these AMP who give these business like hand jobs. I rather just pay up for FS with a younger more attractive girl. These places continue to stay in business so I guess there are many men who are content with this type of service but I am not one of them. One option is the Korean agencies where screening is required but you get FS including a BBBJ with a young thin attractive Korean lady for 220 for 45 and 260 for 60. There must be at least five of these agencies now.
So much Intel, thanks for running down the NoVa scene.
Hello All,
Just going to give a list of recent visits.
Whole Health, great massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jojo, ok massage, normal flip and nursing, very agressive tip 60.
Sunshine therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Jv nails, no massage turned away at door.
Imperial, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty, hot body amy. 100 tip.
Swan, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Sunny yg, good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Edsall road, not good massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Franconia, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, daty. 80 tip.
Mm wellness, not good massage, normal flip, nursing. 60 tip hot girl.
Angel nails, terrible massage, nothing else. 20 tip.
Spring therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nothing else. 40 tip.
Ct massage, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Hot chick bebe 60 tip.
Sun therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing. Cute chick, 60 tip.
Evergreen, good massage, normal flip, nursing, nice lady 60 tip.
Crystal spa, ok massage, normal flip, 40 tip.
Oriental natural health, great massage, normal flip, nursing, 60 tip.
Enliven, bad massage, normal flip, agressive tip. 40 tip.
Blue Therapy, ok massage, normal flip, nursing, aggresive tip. 60 tip. Cute girl.
Most of the therapist are 40 or older and not hot, but I keep looking and add to list. I do not check emails often.
Used to visit VIP quite a bit but hadn't been there for a few months so I stopped by earlier in the week for a visit and had my usual, Julie. I might have reviewed her in the past but she's probably 35-40 if I had to guess. Pretty good shape, nice body, cute face. She's opened up more and more on visits but I've run into a similar issue as someone else posted about a week or two ago. She'll get nude and willing to do a little extra but wants a pretty big tip for it.
After house fee. 8 and tip she asks for 1. 0 if factored in it just isn't worth it because you can get a pretty attractive younger girl and FS for that. So when I visited she immediately got ready for action but I informed her I just wanted a normal and I only had enough for a standard tip today and she was pretty stand offish. I was hoping I could keep her for a go to ATF but she copped a bit of attitude with that new approach and 1. 8 isn't worth it so looks like I won't be visiting there anymore but if you are looking for a massage and standard she's pretty good. Massage is also above average.
PM me with questions.
Roamin Roman
08-15-15, 14:50
This may belong in the "For What It's Worth" category, but who would've thought that music theory, or physics for that matter, would lend a hand (so to speak) to the hobby?
In the past, I've written about my use of vibes during AMP visits. About 15% of the time, after using a vibe in conjunction with DATY, I've been able to convert the session to FS even though the AMP was supposedly only a HJ establishment. Also, Korean women seem to be willing to try a vibe maybe 40% of the time it's offered (some seem afraid of the vibe, for some reason), but Chinese women are receptive about 85% of the time. Go figure.
Anyway, a vibrator (whether single-speed or multi-speed) will produce one vibration frequency at whatever speed you're using it at (for instance, 1500 rpm). But, here's where the music theory or physics comes into play: If you strap a pair of vibrators together and turn them on at different speeds (one at low speed, the other at high speed), they will not only produce their own single vibration frequency (1500 rpm and 2500 rpm, for example), but they will also combine to produce a "beat" frequency (1000 rpm, in this example). The result is that, when the vibe is held against your ATF's clit, she will feel both vibrators' frequencies as well as the "beat" frequency in the form of pulsations. It'll have a very different and very powerful effect on her, since she'll feel not only the vibrations but also the pulsation. Usually, once you bring the vibes into play, she'll be in Shangri-La (as the Greaseman used to say) very quickly.
On a recent foray, I discovered some powerful, good quality bullet vibrators at a store near Tysons Corner. I think the name of the store is Nighttime Dreams, or something like that. Anyway, if you're a monger who likes to treat his ATF to new and interesting fun, you might want to consider picking up a pair of these things. In fact, your ATF might want to keep the pair that you use on her, for times when you're not available, so a second pair might be in order, too.
This might not be every monger's (or every ATF's) cup tea; it's merely a suggestion FWIW, since we all have our own speeds, as it were.
Happy mongering and, as a certain aviator reminds: "Always be kind to the ladies. ".
Roman.
Roamin Roman
08-15-15, 15:28
Based on some intel, plus recent discussion on another site (RM), I decided to pay a visit to Tiffany Nails (aka, Pink Nails, at 163 Hillwood Avenue) in Falls Church last week, since I was in that part of the region. It's a Vietnamese business, as opposed to the usual Chinese or Korean operation.
My therapist, Cindy, escorted me into the back massage room, which was little more than a storage closet in terms of size. I opted for the hour (. 7) and got ready while she took the fee to the register. It was a thorough session, with good workout of the muscles, but alas no HE. She used a somewhat thicker, and scented, massage oil, but used hot towels to wipe it off at the conclusion. All in all, a decent massage (but no satisfaction, from our perspective here). Still, I tipped. 2 for the effort, and she appeared thankful and gave me her card.
Will I pay a repeat visit, to see if more is available? Maybe, if I'm in that area and things are convenient. It's always nice to have variety, as well as alternate places in the event that one's normal "go to" location is unavailable. When I visited, there were two other therapists: Helen (a small, hot spinner type) and Mina (a taller, curvy type), and both looked interesting and, perhaps, a bit more enthusiastic than Cindy. But for now, the only intel I can provide is: YMMV. This place *could* be a hidden gem, but further investigation will be needed.
FBAS: 6. 5 / 6 / 7 / 7.
Vitals (estimated): About 5'-3", 130 lbs. , bit of a gut, 36 be, mid-30's, medium dark hair above shoulders, good hands, decent English.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do, and always maintain proper decorum in the Senate.
Roamin' Roman.
Roamin Roman
08-15-15, 17:51
Found myself in the Tysons Corner area late last week and decided to drive up to the old Tyco Road industrial complex, where once was located the legendary Young's Therapy in the free-wheeling '90's. My first choice was G&G Wellness, in the very back. I hadn't called ahead to book an appointment, so when I got there I was told "Everyone busy. Maybe you come back one hour. " Since I didn't have the time to wait that long, I opted to check out Enliven Therapy, which is nearby in the same complex. Guess who answered the door? Blue, who now goes by Lily at this place. For those who remember her, she normally works at Swan on Leesburg Pike near Columbia Pike. At any rate, she was helping out at Enliven this day.
Door fee was. 8 for the hour, and she took me to a room further back. It's been a while since I've visited this AMP but, based on recollections from previous visits (over 5 years ago! I noticed that they've done some interior work which makes the place a bit brighter on the inside and also gives it a more modern appearance as opposed to the "standard AMP" look of hastily assembled walls, doors, etc.
The TS was a good soapy affair but, unfortunately, not like the Soapland affairs of SE Asia.
Afterwards, Blue / Lily takes me back to the room and proceeds to administer a very good massage, which included some nice back-walking. Anyone who knows Blue knows that most of her approximately 105 pounds resides at the top of her torso. She's still as trim and fit as she ever was, although she's now sporting a second tattoo (below a pierced navel) to compliment the small tramp stamp on her lower back. She's also able to carry on a good conversation, if that appeals to you, but she's not an excessive talker. On the flip, she administered a decent HJ. All in all, a satisfying visit but not overly so. She says that her nipples are "too sensitive, " but the visual aspect of a trim 50-something gal with a generous, natural rack is still a sight to behold.
Will I return for another visit? Probably not. There are just better options available, but Enliven (with Blue) can do in a pinch. However, YMMV.
EXTERIOR
- Accessibility: Enliven is located on the first floor of the front side of the last row of buildings at the back of the Tyco Road industrial complex. From Leesburg Pike, heading away from Rote 123, it is an easy right-hand turn (before the Dulles Access Road turnoff) onto Tyco Road and then a left-hand turn into the complex about a quarter-mile later.
- Parking: Parking is plentiful, even during the daytime. At best, you might have to walk about 50 paces. At nighttime, the area will be sufficiently well-lit, and there's not likely to be any unsavory characters hanging about to cause trouble. If anything, it'll more likely be akin to a ghost town.
- Entrance: The exterior door (full-length smoked glass and similar windows) leads into a very small foyer with a reception window. In the foyer, there is another door with a doorbell button. One isn't entirely hidden from the outside, but one also doesn't immediately stand out once in the foyer.
INTERIOR
- Cleanliness: The inside has a more modern appearance, but still shows a bit of the age of this office park in spite of the fairly recent upgrades within. Otherwise, everything was clean, fresh, and well-kept.
- Shower Room: The shower room was better than standard fare and clean, with no aromas of mildew. The table itself was clean and in good condition.
- Water Temperature: The TS water was the right temperature: neither too hot nor too cold.
- Sauna: This place might have a sauna, but I didn't notice one.
- Air Temperature: The air was conditioned, with a slightly damp chill, but not too cold.
- Bathroom: This room was generally clean and well-kept, without any lingering odors or odd smells, and was in good repair.
- Sheets/Towels: Sheets and towels appeared fresh and new. In the rooms there are small units that look like mini-refrigerators, and these hold hot moist towels and facecloths. They're hot but not scalding. At the end of the session, the old sheets and towels were removed from the room table and taken to the laundry. They weren't "recycled ".
- Therapy Room: The rooms all had doors, which were kept slightly ajar during most of the session. The walls go from floor to ceiling; I could hear slight muffled conversations from the adjoining room, but nothing distinct. The room was standard fare, containing a massage table, nightstand, chair, mirror, and wall hooks to hang your clothes. The massage table was of more than adequate length / width and had a hole & cushion for the head.
- Final Amenities: The therapist used the hot, moist washcloths to wipe away the massage oil, and she brought a small bottle of cold water before I departed. In the interior foyer, the ubiquitous bowl of candy was situated near the entry / exit.
SERVICE
- Time: I opted for, and received, a full hour. Fee = . 8.
- Therapist: My therapist this time was Blue, who now goes by Lily. She is in her mid-50's. There was at least one other therapist on staff that day, and she also appeared to be in her late-40's or early-50's. All therapists were dressed presentably but not exotically.
- Session: The massage was of moderate-to-strong pressure and very acceptable. Coverage was mostly complete, although I could have used more work on the calves and backs of the thighs. Otherwise, she hit most of the muscle groups well. She also did some back-walking, which was very satisfying. The finish was HJ, in which she straddled me 69 style, with some brief nursing due to her sensitivity.
OVERALL: As I said before, there are better options in the NoVa area (and even in the Tysons area, IMO), so I'll rank this AMP as mid-range overall. It's clean, accessible, and has good overall quality metrics, so it will be good as a backup when nothing else is accessible.
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Roman.
Looks like Lily in Warrenton is closed. The number has been disconnected.Never made it Lily but sorry to see it go.
The Culpeper scene has one place close or move from East Street to Main Street.
They still have intro rates advertised on their banner out front and it's definitely open.
Not very private location (it's right downtown) and tough to find parking.
This may belong in the "For What It's Worth" category, but who would've thought that music theory, or physics for that matter, would lend a hand (so to speak) to the hobby?
In the past, I've written about my use of vibes during AMP visits. About 15% of the time, after using a vibe in conjunction with DATY, I've been able to convert the session to FS even though the AMP was supposedly only a HJ establishment. Also, Korean women seem to be willing to try a vibe maybe 40% of the time it's offered (some seem afraid of the vibe, for some reason), but Chinese women are receptive about 85% of the time. Go figure.
Anyway, a vibrator (whether single-speed or multi-speed) will produce one vibration frequency at whatever speed you're using it at (for instance, 1500 rpm). But, here's where the music theory or physics comes into play: If you strap a pair of vibrators together and turn them on at different speeds (one at low speed, the other at high speed), they will not only produce their own single vibration frequency (1500 rpm and 2500 rpm, for example), but they will also combine to produce a "beat" frequency (1000 rpm, in this example). The result is that, when the vibe is held against your ATF's clit, she will feel both vibrators' frequencies as well as the "beat" frequency in the form of pulsations. It'll have a very different and very powerful effect on her, since she'll feel not only the vibrations but also the pulsation. Usually, once you bring the vibes into play, she'll be in Shangri-La (as the Greaseman used to say) very quickly.
On a recent foray, I discovered some powerful, good quality bullet vibrators at a store near Tysons Corner. I think the name of the store is Nighttime Dreams, or something like that. Anyway, if you're a monger who likes to treat his ATF to new and interesting fun, you might want to consider picking up a pair of these things. In fact, your ATF might want to keep the pair that you use on her, for times when you're not available, so a second pair might be in order, too.
This might not be every monger's (or every ATF's) cup tea; it's merely a suggestion FWIW, since we all have our own speeds, as it were.
Happy mongering and, as a certain aviator reminds: "Always be kind to the ladies. ".
Roman.It would surprise me greatly if a Korean woman would permit a vibrator to be used on her that had been used or could have been used on someone else. Korean women are clean freaks.
LexLuther.
Roamin Roman
08-16-15, 01:42
It would surprise me greatly if a Korean woman would permit a vibrator to be used on her that had been used or could have been used on someone else. Korean women are clean freaks.
LexLuther.That's true about being clean freaks, but they tend to want to use alcohol. Also, if you assure them that "it's only for the outside, " then they often loosen up a bit.
A few months ago, I went to an AMP in College Park and the solo girl was a chubby Korean lady in her late 40's. I was not attracted to her at all but since I was there, I decided to get the HJ release which was very business like. This is not meant to be a review but just a commentary on the current state of AMPs in the DMV. In the old days, I went to the AMPs in DC and there was a good selection of young attractive Korean girls doing FS for $ tip on top of the house fee. Now, most of the AMPs in DC are closed and my experience and some of the reports seem to indicate older Korean ladies working at the AMPs. Very different scene now and not very pretty at that.
I had mentioned in another post the emergence of private Korean agencies offering FS in condos but you have to be screened with references and some are so busy that they no longer even accept new clients. Every time I visit these agencies, they have young attractive slim Korean ladies who provide very good service. It makes me wonder whether the young Korean ladies are now opting to work at these Korean agencies as opposed to the AMPs due to the higher pay and screening.
Since my disappointing visit to the AMP in College Park, I have not been back to an AMP again but I have been visiting the Korean agencies more often.
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