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Called today to make an appointment with my reg provider and got a different mamasan. She didn't know who (names) of the girls working. I found this answer very odd. Anyone have any info about any changes there? Otherwise I would exercise caution visiting this place.
MnV
Want to add to the post below, it looks like they might have changed hands as new BP ads seem to imply.
The provider I had been seeing was called yoyo, anyone know where she might have landed.
Yeah, I know it's a long shot but what the hell! LOL.
MnV
Want to add to the post below, it looks like they might have changed hands as new BP ads seem to imply.
The provider I had been seeing was called yoyo, anyone know where she might have landed.
Yeah, I know it's a long shot but what the hell! LOL.
MnVMoonie,
Which Yoyo, # 1, 2.3, 4.5, 6.7, 8.9, 10, 11?
Or Coco, #1, 2.3, 4.5, 6?
Or Candy #1, 2.3, 4.5?
Or Suki #1, 2.3, 4.
PC out
Moonie,
Which Yoyo, # 1, 2.3, 4.5, 6.7, 8.9, 10, 11?
Or Coco, #1, 2.3, 4.5, 6?
Or Candy #1, 2.3, 4.5?
Or Suki #1, 2.3, 4.
PC outPC,
Isn't that the truth!
MnV
TwistedBrother
08-24-11, 13:10
I'm waiting for someone to say,"I was trying to cum on her chest, but the quake hit and it splattered all over her face," or something like that.
Was at a different place today. All I really want to say is, the earth moved. Yes it was so good, both of use looked to the other and said "you were so incredible, the earth moved."
Later, I found out there was an earthquake.
PA
PC,
Isn't that the truth!
MnVWhen the girls leave Korea, they are handed a massagi girl's work manual and these are the top 3-4 names in them. Since they really don't give a shit either way, most chose Yoyo.
Unless their travel mate choses Yoyo and then theirs a problem and a catfight ensues.
Try Peach Orchard, Donna and Mesa are there and they are sweet Thai / Cambodian girls that are very nice IMHO. And as you all know, I don't spend $$ plus and return if its bad.
PC out
Notice how the standardation of ads on CL has gone neck and neck with standardation of service? Notice how many places have had mgmt changes?
I could always get a little extra, now that is almost never the case.
Prices are up everywhere too.
I wonder if someone is taking control of all of the NOVA AMPs?I've always assumed many of them use a 3rd party to post the ads, who perhaps gets a volume discount from CL.
And there is a very simple reason the prices are up. Almost all of the AMPs closed in DC, and the money has flowed to VA. They know that, and they are not afraid to ask for it.
Is yo-yo really gone?I suggest calling the places that advertise on DC back pages and asking for her. That is how I found her at MWC.
Is yo-yo really gone?Looks like I'm not the only one in search of the "yo-yo"! LOL.
MnV
Saw the ad for Evergreen Wellness. After calling the place and found out it's a Korean-owned place, I figured the chances of bad service increased from 40% to 60. I said to myself, eh, why not, let's give it a try.
Located in an older office / clinic building, Evergreen Wellness is pretty discreet. Went in, greeted by the mamasan (I'm assuming because she is around her 50s). Went to the massage room, got the 1/2 hour hard tissue massage for. 6. After about 20 min did the usual tingling stuff and ask me to flip over. After flipping, she went ahead and did her business. I refused to pay extra for a simple tension release so I only tipped. 1.
On the ad, it says you can choose staff. Yeah, whatever. The only AMP that I've been to that's really "the bomb" was in Atlanta. PM me if you want to know the name.
Massage: 3/5.
Service: 3/5.
Extras: 1/5 (I am a lot younger than she is, she should tip me!)
Damage:.6 +.1 tip.When did you visit this place? During the day? Night? Weekend? This has been my go to spot for 6 visits now. When I started hitting this spot a couple months ago, the door was unlocked during the day. Now lately, on three seperate occasions during the week, in the afternoon, the door was locked and no one answered the phone. I called about 3 weeks ago on a Sat morning and someone answered so I visited. The door was locked when I arrived but my provider opened it up a few seconds later. Now it's Friday afternoon and no one was answering the phone and the door was locked. Me thinks it's a one person operation and they see clients by appointment (to ward off a raid or to keep from being robbed). Anyone else hitting this spot regularly, you can back channel.
After aborted attempts with several indy providers I decided to check out the local talent at Papaya. And it's a very good thing I did. I drew Bunny, an under-30 under-5'6' provider with a pleasant happy face, natural A cups, tight legs, and a wonderful attitude. This one's a gem. She started things off right by cleaning the TS in front of me. She cleaned me up pretty good too. Back to the room, we started with some serious back walking. Then moved to a firm rub down with her on the table the whole time. After some extended teasing from the rear I flipped and we had a brief negotiation. I agreed to tip $ and what I got wasn't FS but was exactly what I needed. No fake drama. Some giggles here and there. Lots of attention where it matters. And just a very intimate session. She finished the massage while I almost fell asleep.
After a string of disappointments in the game, this one rocked. The girls here rotate so go see her while you can. For myself, I think I'm going to pull a Pimp Trick and retire on top. At least for a while. .
BTW, I hear that the operation next door (Top) has folded.
Send an email to [Email address deleted by Admin] And you can get NURU for $155. I saw her today and it was really nice! She is a BBW but I think that added to the experience, for me anyway. I had been wanting a NURU for some time and finally got it. This is the REAL thing too! She showed me the bottle it came out of.
VERY NICE!
JJ
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Freedomfighter
08-27-11, 20:30
Looks like I'm not the only one in search of the "yo-yo"! LOL.
MnVAdd me to the searcher list. Her MMS is also gone. The new one told me everyone is asking for Yoyo. Instead I got Michelle nowhere near Yoyo's skills.
Galaxyman12
08-28-11, 00:39
Add me to the searcher list. Her MMS is also gone. The new one told me everyone is asking for Yoyo. Instead I got Michelle nowhere near Yoyo's skills.Michelle was my provider on a recent visit. Pleasant but does not have the same skill set. The constant rotation of providers and MMS in this area does keep things interesting.
The Speaker
08-28-11, 08:20
Went by Papaya last night to see how things were (plus at the time 10:30pm and with storm, only place still open). The therapist I got was named Jennifer. She had on alot of makeup, really small dress maybe mid twenties claimed to be Japanese (can't really tell). Body ok looking but had sag from having a kid. I wasn't expecting much but she really surprised me. Table shower was great (really was pampered). And she really could massage with was surprising. Standard finish but the only thing didn't like was her faking passion but she tried. All in all I would recommend you'll to see Jennifer while she still there.
http://www.mrc.org/cmi/articles/2010/Prostitution_Ads_Still_a_Problem_on_Craigslist_Despite_Recent_Crackdowns.html
Max Beelyun
08-28-11, 22:01
Visited HT tonight. Saw Gina. 5'6", pretty face, skinny, cute B-cups. Good English. Everything standard, but everything awesome. Tipped more than some would like me to, but she really deserved it. Seniors can PM for details.
http://www.mrc.org/cmi/articles/2010/Prostitution_Ads_Still_a_Problem_on_Craigslist_Despite_Recent_Crackdowns.htmlThat article is a year old! It is a different world now than it was then!
RTFF! Then post something of VALUE!
JJ
After being stood up at an incall and going 0 for 2 calling BP providers in the surrounding area, I headed to a little reviewed spot in McLean. Moderately discreet location, ample parking. Opted for the half hour which goes for less than the standard. 6.
Drew Julie. 40s, just a little thicker than a spinner, bee / see cups, face wasn't the greatest (but then again what 40+ korean woman in this profession does?
Mechanical medium / hard massage (started off hard but gradually lightened up) w / hot towels and roaming allowed (although she wore pasties). Standard NOVA with some attention paid to the boys. Hot towel cleanup, and I was on my way. I didn't even think to ask about her menu.
Total damage. 9.
After being stood up at an incall and going 0 for 2 calling BP providers in the surrounding area, I headed to a little reviewed spot in McLean. Moderately discreet location, ample parking. Opted for the half hour which goes for less than the standard. 6.
Drew Julie. 40s, just a little thicker than a spinner, bee / see cups, face wasn't the greatest (but then again what 40+ korean woman in this profession does?
Mechanical medium / hard massage (started off hard but gradually lightened up) w / hot towels and roaming allowed (although she wore pasties). Standard NOVA with some attention paid to the boys. Hot towel cleanup, and I was on my way. I didn't even think to ask about her menu.
Total damage. 9.She wore what,"pasties", no shit! Did you even try to pull them off? LOL.
MnV
She wore what,"pasties", no shit! Did you even try to pull them off? LOL.
MnVLOL, she had on a see through dress and while I was roaming she says "look, no nippur" and pulls it down to show me the pasty before taking it off herself.
I hit up Evergreen in 7 Corners today. I think they are only open when they post an ad on BP. This has been my favorite spot for the last several times so I was happy to see the door opened a little bit. I rang the bell and ask for my regular provider. The person who answered the door gave me the impression she was the manager and said my provider did not want to work there anymore so she (the manager) could give me a massage. But then she dropped a "we don't do anything else here." Ummm, ok I didn't ask anything related to that! And you might want to remove your posting on BP under the Adult section you idiot LOL I did not say that but wanted to. On top of that, she hesitated to tell me what was the deal surrounding my provider's departure from this place. So something went down between the two. Well whatever. I did not stay because I was not feeling the manager at all. She also spoke very good English so I suspect she runs the business there.
I then headed to an oldie but goodie (I was hoping) , Young's, off of Howard Road in Tysons. Well they took down the sign out front and they removed the sign from their door but the little sign next to the buzzer outside still had Young displayed so I thought this place was still active. I go in, typical "2 door" system, and rang the inside bell. The lady who answers looks at my nervously and asks what I want. I said I want a massage and she hestitated and told me they don't do massage there. Ok now I'm thinking I must be giving off a LE vibe or LE is on the loose and everyone is on lockdown. WTF! I told her I was there a month ago (not) and saw Coco (another lie, but that's a common AMP name so I was hoping that would ease me). Well she hesitated and paused a few seconds and said she don't know a Coco and they don't do massage there. I'm like whatever and roll my eyes and head out. She was really good looking, a little older, but good looking so I was bummed I striked out here.
I don't look like LE, don't have a haircut that gives off that vibe, I sport a 5 o'clock shadow, and I was dressed like one of the millions office slave workers in the area so I don't know what's up. I'm a shy being labeled "over the hill" so maybe some of these places are catering to the senior citizen set to avoid a LE or they are catering to the Asian only crowd.
I went home with my wallet still fat and jerked off to some Asian porn and had a cold beer.
AKFourtySeven
08-30-11, 08:53
LE must be raiding. The 2 times I actually went inside Evergreen were excellent. However there were about 6 other times when I went it was closed. Its never open on the weekend. I think the doctor downstairs controls the outside door.
I have had the same such luck at Evergreen. I have driven by half a dozen times, even when a ad is on BP, and they have yet to find them open.
I hit up Evergreen in 7 Corners today. I think they are only open when they post an ad on BP. This has been my favorite spot for the last several times so I was happy to see the door opened a little bit. I rang the bell and ask for my regular provider. The person who answered the door gave me the impression she was the manager and said my provider did not want to work there anymore so she (the manager) could give me a massage. But then she dropped a "we don't do anything else here." Ummm, ok I didn't ask anything related to that! And you might want to remove your posting on BP under the Adult section you idiot LOL I did not say that but wanted to. On top of that, she hesitated to tell me what was the deal surrounding my provider's departure from this place. So something went down between the two. Well whatever. I did not stay because I was not feeling the manager at all. She also spoke very good English so I suspect she runs the business there.
I then headed to an oldie but goodie (I was hoping) , Young's, off of Howard Road in Tysons. Well they took down the sign out front and they removed the sign from their door but the little sign next to the buzzer outside still had Young displayed so I thought this place was still active. I go in, typical "2 door" system, and rang the inside bell. The lady who answers looks at my nervously and asks what I want. I said I want a massage and she hestitated and told me they don't do massage there. Ok now I'm thinking I must be giving off a LE vibe or LE is on the loose and everyone is on lockdown. WTF! I told her I was there a month ago (not) and saw Coco (another lie, but that's a common AMP name so I was hoping that would ease me). Well she hesitated and paused a few seconds and said she don't know a Coco and they don't do massage there. I'm like whatever and roll my eyes and head out. She was really good looking, a little older, but good looking so I was bummed I striked out here.
I don't look like LE, don't have a haircut that gives off that vibe, I sport a 5 o'clock shadow, and I was dressed like one of the millions office slave workers in the area so I don't know what's up. I'm a shy being labeled "over the hill" so maybe some of these places are catering to the senior citizen set to avoid a LE or they are catering to the Asian only crowd.
I went home with my wallet still fat and jerked off to some Asian porn and had a cold beer.Visited Young's last week Tuesday I believe and no problem at all. I go there once in the while, always call ahead, see Julie, little more than standard NoVa finish. Don't know about the other ladies in there.
AKFourtySeven
08-30-11, 17:14
I went to Holiday or whatever its called. Too busy, come back in an hour. So I went to Lily Spa. They have the same system as Bay Spa. Older lady gives a good wash and then the younger lady services you. I got an CBJ and asian. I had DeeDee.
Visited Young's last week Tuesday I believe and no problem at all. I go there once in the while, always call ahead, see Julie, little more than standard NoVa finish. Don't know about the other ladies in there.So I guess thy would frown upon a walk-in client then, thinking it was LE? It was just weird and I figured afterwards, LE must be snooping around Fairfax County checking up on the places.
I have had the same such luck at Evergreen. I have driven by half a dozen times, even when a ad is on BP, and they have yet to find them open.The last provider I saw, different from my favorite one there, was about 3 weeks ago. When I rang the bell, she let me in and locked the outside door (it's a typical 2 door AMP set-up) and shut the lights off in the little hallway between the two doors. So I figured she was the only one there working. Likewise I have gone when they had the BP ads posted, called and no one answered. Then drove over and the door was locked. I assume it was just one person working and busy with a client. Yesterday, I called about a half dozen times and no one answered but I still drove over and the door was unlocked. Whatever. As I always say, if you get a good thing going with a provider, try to get her personal digits (I failed to get my favorite provider's digits before she left.). When stuff like this happens, you can always give them a ring and track them down to hook something up on the outside vice messing around with this hide and go seek monkey business.
OK, she's gone! But no one has a new location for this provider? Yeah, yeah, I know, but I had her trained so well! LOL.
MnV
ProlapsMaximus
08-31-11, 12:39
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?
Andrewsted
08-31-11, 15:09
Hmm, she sounds like she wants to really workout, like run and stuff. I am not certain that she wants money from you each time she joins you in a workout. However, I think if you went back to you place for a massage or FS, she may expect money thereby under cuttting the house fee. Cal her, workout with her and if she asks for money for no reason (or, service) then tell her it was a misunderstanding. If you get a masage or FS after the workout, offer her money.
My 2 cents.
Signed.
50 cent.
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?
Pass along my digits, and I'll be more than happy to workout with her! LOL.
I can train or her she can train on me, either way, win win if she wants to hook up and work out and money was never discussed.
Sounds fun my friend, ops like this can only be DREAMED of more less offered in person.
Just me and my couple of pennies.
AC.
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?
AKFourtySeven
08-31-11, 18:07
Go for it. Sounds like wants a little bodyguarding during her workout. She may actually like you or she may be looking for a sugar daddy. Only way to be sure is to go for it! Be discreet don't let her mamasan catch on.
Aman Tuleev
08-31-11, 20:35
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?I think that she is trying to set up some kind of relations with You.
Sure, she will tell You that she is doing that not for money.
Just call her and have fun.
BTW, nothing will change if You will not call her.
Stay Safe,
Aman
I just don't see anything good coming out of this. Unless you want a relationship with her. I doubt she is going through all the trouble just to make a few extra bucks on the weekend with you. So do you really want to work out in public with your provider? Even if you are single? And your ATF? I just wouldn't shit where I eat.
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?
I have been in that situation my friend. I became a reg to what used to be Maxxim off of Old Bridge in PW. This chick was tops. She was hot, young like me at the time, perfect body, and sweet. We had some really hot sessions. 1 went into a full blown scream fest and mamasan barged in and yelled at both of us. I guess she felt comftable since I was a reg. Well, long story short she offered me her number and I took it. I did the same as you and wavered over the do I call of do I not. Well I did not and I wish I did. I wasn't looking for love or anything but I wouldn't have minded just hanging out or goofing off with her. If we did perform acts of carnal nature off duty then great. If not, we would have had a good time hanging. I do regret it.
My advice is to call, be casual and not expect anything more than a friend wanting to workout and get some real fitness tips. If more is on the table you can say yea or no, there must have been a misunderstanding. You got nothing to lose and all to gain. Don't miss this opportunity like I did. Just be casual!
My 2 cents!
Loader
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?
Ginger Man
09-01-11, 12:50
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?A great writer named Kurt Vonnegut once wrote,"Peculiar travel suggestions are dancing lessons from God."
I have seen several ladies outside the spa over the years, and it can be great fun. Be a gentleman, especially at first, and see what happens.
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?Call her, you have nothing to lose. I've been seeing some ladies on the outside and never been asked for money. I actually had one who was giving me money, bought me clothing, food and more. At that time I didn't have to work, she took care of me. And we would have sex anytime I wanted to. You never know what will come out of such situation, but if it doesn't work out, you can always walk away.
Pilot Aviator
09-01-11, 22:42
If you want the ultimate in soapy, therapuetic massage, go to CTM. See either lady.
And enjoy.
The other AMP accoutraments are fairly standard (and nicely executed). But this place is the best for a great TS.
Standard rates / no upsell / sweet people / you'll want to visit again.
I went earlier this week. It made the end of the Hurrucane Weekend much less stressful.
Be nice to the ladies. Both of them!
PA
Ambidextrous
09-02-11, 06:39
Tried for a second time to connect with Elizabeth Moore. After screening, e-mails, going to her location and many unnecessary texts, she keeps texting 'R U here? ', won't talk on the phone, won't give me the apartment number. Fuck her.
Go to Papaya, call from the parking lot and am told I can choose from five providers. Go in, only one available, at least MMS gives me a look at her before committing. 'Jennifer' is K-girl. 23, small and cute. I'll bite. She pads off with. 8 for the house.
She gives me TS, not bad, we chat a bit. She's from Seoul, here seven months, only a few days at this location. English poor. OK massage and back walking, for a laugh I ask if she wants me to walk on her back. To my surprise she says yes, I do it and she enjoys it. I never realized there are bars on the ceiling to hold onto when you do this.
I ask if she'd like to disrobe for massagi, she agrees but wants to negotiate. I say I will decide how much to tip at the end, she doesn't seem to understand but finally accepts. Won't let me touch her with my lips or DATY. No BJ. Standard NoVa finish, poorly executed. I tell her she's got a lot to learn, but she doesn't seem to understand. I tip. 6 against my better judgment because I don't want her to yell at me.
'Be nice to the ladies'? Look where it gets you.
Home delivery what could be better?
The worst case she is looking to build a client list on the side and you will save the house fee (a larger tip would be nice). If she is really into and not a hanger on, you got a friend with benefits and maybe she will bring friends. If she is a hanger on, you can always politely tell her I am not looking for responsibility then move on. What is she going to do call the cops on you. She would have the most to lose. If she is illegal in the US, cop bust would show a record and when she tries to becomes legal she would have a record preventing her. If she is legal her profession is not, do you think she wants that heat?
What are you waiting for? The answer is 7 digits away. Pick up the phone! Obviously this is not a police sting!
If you are willing to pay and risk being busted then you should take the chance and see what her deal is.
I just don't see anything good coming out of this. Unless you want a relationship with her. I doubt she is going through all the trouble just to make a few extra bucks on the weekend with you. So do you really want to work out in public with your provider? Even if you are single? And your ATF? I just wouldn't shit where I eat.
Call her, you have nothing to lose. I've been seeing some ladies on the outside and never been asked for money. I actually had one who was giving me money, bought me clothing, food and more. At that time I didn't have to work, she took care of me. And we would have sex anytime I wanted to. You never know what will come out of such situation, but if it doesn't work out, you can always walk away.This has been my experience as well, on the inside everything is negotiated on the outside they seem to want to pay your way, go figure! Must be a cultural thing.
I wouldn't hesitate either. It was, safe to say, one of the best times of my life!
MnV
About 15 years ago was the same way. Loved the company but only offered a friendly hug and kiss outside of the work environment. So sad. I was working for a more adult relationship and to break away from the business aspect but she kept the two seperation. If I wanted in I had to make an appointment other than that she treated me as a gay friend.
I will say again, give her a try (I will live vicariously through you) or recommend she hook up with one of us (me) who is willing to take the bait. She might just be looking for outside employment to paying off debts to whoever brought her here and stuff like that. Of course she need to whisper, she would have been thrown out for stealing a customer, after all if you were getting into that outside of her job would you pay. 8 or so to MMS?
Another thought is she might just be into and also need a green card. You are single, most customers are not. You are in shape most, including myself are not. So many could bes'; have you called yet. Shit or pass the number, PM me!
This has been my experience as well, on the inside everything is negotiated on the outside they seem to want to pay your way, go figure! Must be a cultural thing.
I wouldn't hesitate either. It was, safe to say, one of the best times of my life!
MnV
Miketastic69
09-02-11, 22:49
About 15 years ago was the same way. Loved the company but only offered a friendly hug and kiss outside of the work environment. So sad. I was working for a more adult relationship and to break away from the business aspect but she kept the two seperation. If I wanted in I had to make an appointment other than that she treated me as a gay friend.
!I had a "friend" I met in an AMP back in the day. She gave me her number on the back of a business card someone gave her. I was bored one night and said screw it and called her up. Come to find out, she was an actual person outside of the AMP. We had a blast. And, she didn't want to touch me (easily) outside of the place. She was like a true GF in that I had to buy dinner, etc. She was going to school and was working to put herself through college. She didn't ask me for any money or any help. I just had to be a "gentleman" when I was with her outside in the real world.
What killed the whole deal for me is my thought of her "servicing" clients during her day job. And she was really jealous about me visiting any other AMPs. We agreed that unless she quit her job and I quit my hobby we couldn't last.
Give it a shot. As a few folks have said, she probably is just attracted to you and wants to give you more of herself (or wants more of you). It could be great. You know what to look out for, so just watch for warning signs.
Galaxyman12
09-03-11, 00:15
Headed over to the fruity place near tysons corner Thursday morning. Called ahead. No answer. Tried calling top. Phone disconnected. Pulled thru the parking lot to check things out. Saw a small suv backed into a parking spot with male in his fifties in the drivers seat. Same individual I saw a few weeks earlier. LEO? Starting to get a little paranoid. Drove to the other side of the complex and parked. Called the fruity place again. MMS answered this time. I told her I would be over in 10 minutes. Walked across the complex. Warmly greeted at the door. My provider was Mimi. Paid for 1 hr. Massage. It was fantastic. Couldn't get a TS because it was in use at the time so I opted for a extended massage. Wow. I wish all the visits were like this minus the person sitting in the suv.
Be safe.
G-man
Bunker Buster
09-03-11, 17:14
Just want a third party opinion here.
One of the girls at the AMP I frequent just gave me her number, told me to call her this weekend so we can workout. She asked me how I stay in shape and I told her I try to run a few miles a week; she seemed interested and said she would join me. I'll say she is my ATF, and all our sessions have been friendly and great. At first I thought she was just getting me excited, but after the session she handed me a paper with number and told me to call her so we can workout; she told me what days she has off. She was whispering the whole time, informing me that no one can know about this. I guess the boss lady doesn't want her to give out her personal number. Throughout this short conversation there was nothing implying some kind of exchange of currency. I don't feel like paying out of my ass just she can come visit me.
Now I've been to a few AMP in the area and never had to happen to me. I never told her any financial or personal details, except that I was single. I do have to say that this girl is one of the most attractive providers I've had. I can't pin point her age, probably 25-35.
What do you fine gentlemen think I should do in this situation?
Has anyone found themselves in the same situation?I've had some good experiences in this regard.
I had a side relationship with the manager / masseuse of a VA spa about 7-8 years ago. The place was strictly HE, but we moved fairly quickly to FS, and she wasn't looking for the extra $. She would cook for me and pour me beer in the back room, and we would sit and talk. She came to my house one time, and we ended up taking a phenomenal hot shower together. Johnny Fairfax harassed her into closing, and she moved to Florida.
Another one asked me to pick her up at the spa (1818 NY) and spend time with her, then drop her at the bus station. I took her to see the monuments, then to a record store (youngsters may PM to ask what that is) and coffee before the bus station. She never came back to DC, and I lost touch with her.
Yet another asked if I could take her to the airport, and we spent a few interesting hours together around DC and on the road. Again, she never came back and I lost touch.
I got a number from one at the FCCC. Spoke a few times, and even tried to reconnect (on a $ basis) when I was visiting NY, but she was way out in Queens and I didn't want to spend 2 hours in transit.
I was friendly with an escort who used to post on the boards. We talked quite a bit, and even went out one time, but I was too cautious about her knowing my personal details (which I regret, because she turned out to be a super-decent girl who married and moved away).
Finally, asked out a new girl at one of the Latin places (I asked mid-stroke, LOL). She quit working there a week later and found a menial job that didn't involve men grunting on her. Took her to a nice place for dinner, and she asked me to cook for her. Enjoyed the actual girlfriend experience (not commercial "GFE") of calling her, planning dates, getting together, and ending the evening with affectionate lovemaking. She wanted nothing from me other than companionship; not money, not a green card. She's the only girl I ever met in a pro environment who knows my real name. Unfortunately, she returned home after a few months when her visa expired. I'm hoping she comes back.
So, what am I telling you to do? Easy. Call her. See what she has in mind. Meet up with her. Don't put on blinders, but don't be paranoid.
These are real people who for various reasons have ended up in this business. Many are nice girls who want to have real connections with another person. Don't let yourself get played, but don't assume that everyone is out to play you either.
Stopped by for service (rates are. 8 for 1\2 hour and 1. 4 for full hour). She is a very attactive girl and the photos seems to be her. I asked for the hour session and was asked to get comfortable. Faced down and received a soft rub down on the backside, asked to flip over. Some more rub down and lead to a handshake with my boys. Her only xtras was changing into her birthday suit for. 4 more which I accepted. Any way the session lasted about 40 minutes. Seems she ended it short cause her arms were getting tired.
She indicated it was a 20 minute hand shake. It's not my fault because my boys are marathon runner and not sprinters. Sad to say my boys didn't finish the marathon.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pleasureable-experience-and-attention-you-deserved-with-gorgeous-blonde-24/5718273
Requesting 411 on Carmen who works at the same establishment.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/beautiful-latina-with-amazing-hands-just-for-you-upscale-studio-29/5282874
Pilot Aviator
09-04-11, 07:16
JP71. If you will do some more research here, you will be more aware of the common rates and expectations of clients and providers. I always remind people to be nice to the ladies, but based on your description you were overcharged about. 6.8 (based on being shorted time). Perhaps she was worth it (or worth it to you).
PA.
Stopped by for service (rates are. 8 for 1\2 hour and 1. 4 for full hour). She is a very attactive girl and the photos seems to be her. I asked for the hour session and was asked to get comfortable. Faced down and received a soft rub down on the backside, asked to flip over. Some more rub down and lead to a handshake with my boys. Her only xtras was changing into her birthday suit for. 4 more which I accepted. Any way the session lasted about 40 minutes. Seems she ended it short cause her arms were getting tired.
She indicated it was a 20 minute hand shake. It's not my fault because my boys are marathon runner and not sprinters. Sad to say my boys didn't finish the marathon.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pleasureable-experience-and-attention-you-deserved-with-gorgeous-blonde-24/5718273
Requesting 411 on Carmen who works at the same establishment.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/beautiful-latina-with-amazing-hands-just-for-you-upscale-studio-29/5282874
Went to Chantilly looking for a Smile. Had been there before, was sad to hear Nancy left. Ended up with Suzy. A little heavy, maybe about 160 at 5'6'. But had huge knockers. Shower was normal, massage was actually the best I've had in a while, finish was very good. Some extras above normal. Damage. 8 plus. 6, won't repeat with her due to excessive junk in the trunk. PM for specifics. Also PM if you know where Nancy went.
No, I wasn't rude or disrespectful. I kept it polite and professional. Most massage establishments seemed yo br run by asians so wanted to try something different.
What I would like to try is an independent. If you have a good suggestion please PM me.
JP71. If you will do some more research here, you will be more aware of the common rates and expectations of clients and providers. I always remind people to be nice to the ladies, but based on your description you were overcharged about. 6.8 (based on being shorted time). Perhaps she was worth it (or worth it to you).
PA.
Capricaone
09-05-11, 03:05
Today I had one of my more unusual sessions with my usual establishment (not a spa). I won't go into detail with whom for several reasons. After my 45 min appointment was over, my provider (who was new) didn't kick me out but spent another 30 min just having a regular conversation. I guess it was because I was the last customer of the day and she was feeling a bit lonely. A couple of things crossed my mind. First, too many of you in this business are assholes. This came up when she talked about how nervous she feels working at an agency because unlike a spa she's alone with the customer. A stranger. And many of them treat the women worse than a dog. Apparently she's been nervous since she began working in the area recently. She mentioned she was grateful I seemed normal, didn't demand she do things she wasn't comfortable with, treated her with respect (obviously except the boom-boom part) and actually said "thank you". Not to mention I didn't show up drunk and I wasn't fat. It made me wonder what she normally has to deal with. So the title says it all. Treat the women with some respect and remember they're human beings with feelings like the rest of us.
This is the first time I actually considered giving one of these women an actual phone number to reach me at as I would be interested in having coffee or dinner. Just for the conversation and not for business. In those 30 min I learned a lot about her life and how she got into this profession. Initially my bullshit meter was acting up but the conversation was so mundane and so normal I figured she wasn't lying. She talked about how many siblings she had, what jobs she had before entering this profession, and how she had ended up in it because "she didn't know if she was smart or dumb because she didn't have a college degree but she did know she was pretty" (she definitely was gorgeous). Again this reality made me think of the title. Don't be an asshole because these women enter the profession as a means of making decent money with the only breaks "god" gave them.
I also learned quite a bit about how the business works, how they get started, and a few other surprising things I don't want to share. I didn't give her my number but if I do go back. Yet undecided if I will. I think I will because she said she comes to DC to visit her friends and usually never to work. I'm sharing this because I know a few of you think as I do and the experience did rattle me (as in make me feel for her as any other woman with feelings and needs) enough that I needed to share with someone.
ProlapsMaximus
09-05-11, 16:57
It went better than expected.
She called the day to confirm out night out, twice. Evening approaches and I call her to where she wants to meet, no answer. I end up calling and texting her about 4 times before I call it quits and hit the sack. She ends called me around midnight apologizing, she had a rough night, the night before.
She calls me the next night and asks if I want to meet up.What- it's late but I was curious to see how far this would go, so I bite. She give me her address and I head towards that direction like a missile. The first thing she does when she takes a seat in my car, places my hand on here sweater puppies.I'm golden- We end up dining real late, chatting and getting liquored up. I have to say that this Korean girl knows how to handle her liquor; I had to stop because I was driving, but she kept right on going. We spend the whole time chatting about her friends and how she is overwhelmed with loneliness. It must be a tough life living in a country without family around. She tells me that she gave me her number because I came off as a very nice guy; she has this weird belief that blood type can be used to find compatible companions.WTF- Apparently, we are not compatible, that didn't interrupt the events that would occur at her place.
We step into her place and the first thing she asks me is if I'm planning to stay the night.I guess so, it's your place not mine- She wants me to stay the night.and that's a BINGO- She tells me to get comfortable, I sit down on her couch as she walks into her room. She returns in a very nice andégligée and proceeds to tell me to take off my pants. Exactly like that. No joke, she says it very casually. So here I am in my boxers walking around as she is showing me her place; I'm walking around with a hardon standing taller than the statue of liberty, she sees it and gently cups it and begins to kiss me. I'm thinking to myself, this is going faster than I thought; this train is moving right along to its final destination. She takes me to her room and we begin sexy time.
We have three good rounds, with her finally telling me no more. I didn't draw fire. &3232; _&3232;
Is it me or do Asian ladies get exhausted very easily? Or are they very sensitive?
Next morning we have brunch and continue our conversations from the night before. She tells me she would like to go to the theaters next time. I say sure. I drop her off and part ways.
I payed for dinner which wasn't bad for two people. She even offered to pay for dinner if I couldn't cover it. She covered brunch. Overall, it was a great experience, beside some of the conversations which were a bit off putting. Man, Korean accents are difficult to understand.
Steps for success:
1. Be charismatic.
2. Be affable.
3. Be mildly attractive.
4. Profit!
Be a gentleman and treat the ladies with respect, that is all.
I have only been mongering for 2 years, but became infatuated with Asian girls since. I see Asian girl at the gym, I'm thrown completely out of my routine. I see one at the mall, I'm spilling coffee on me. Messed up right? I could learn to be more regimented though. Cause they are are God's little treat to men. In cars, on airplanes.
Pass along my digits, and I'll be more than happy to workout with her! LOL.
I can train or her she can train on me, either way, win win if she wants to hook up and work out and money was never discussed.
Sounds fun my friend, ops like this can only be DREAMED of more less offered in person.
Just me and my couple of pennies.
AC.
Sir Willae
09-05-11, 23:20
I tried RTFF, but I can't find it. What does CTM stand for?
Thanks in advance.
Went to Chantilly looking for a Smile. Had been there before, was sad to hear Nancy left. Ended up with Suzy. A little heavy, maybe about 160 at 5'6'. But had huge knockers. Shower was normal, massage was actually the best I've had in a while, finish was very good. Some extras above normal. Damage. 8 plus. 6, won't repeat with her due to excessive junk in the trunk. PM for specifics. Also PM if you know where Nancy went.Suzy is awesome! I've been going to her for years. She gives a great massage. Usually a very playful shower and a fantastic ending. She is chatting, sweet, speaks perfect English. PM me with other questions.
Don't get me wrong, the massage was great! Like I said, even the best I've had in a long long time. And I can vouch too that her English was astounding. In fact it seemed that she had to fake her accent a little rather than push the English. The shower was very brief though, perhaps if she had been playful on the TS then I would repeat even though the lbs were a bit much for me.
Any other opinions on River?
I tried RTFF, but I can't find it. What does CTM stand for?
Thanks in advance.CTM stand for Comfort Theraputic Massage.
7015 Old Keene Mill Road # 102.
Springfield, VA 22150-2805.
(703) 866-7787
This is going to be one of the more memorable evenings spent at an AMP, I'll say that to start. I went to Papaya after my date stood me up, leaving me in Tyson's all dressed up with nothing to do. I drove over to Papaya, and it didn't look terribly busy. Wrong. It was packed, but MMS let me in and had me sit in the break room for a while with a bottle of water. We spent probably 20 or 25 minutes making small talk while we waited for one of the providers to finish up with her current client. The doorbell rang a few times while we were chatting, and a couple of guys were told they were busy.
Once a room opened up, MMS took me back to the room, collected the house fee for my hour and left me to start undressing. In walks Bonnie, who I've seen a couple of times before, but couldn't put a name to her gorgeous face until about half an hour later. This was a very pleasant surprise since I'm not used to seeing the same provider at Papaya more than twice since they rotate through so fast. The place was packed tonight, despite the weather, so there was a lot of talking going on in the hallway as people came and went, including a very drunken sounding guy asking to see whoever slept there.
We headed to the TS where she had an amusing conversation in Korean with MMS through the curtain about a third of the way into my TS (very well done TS even while she was talking to MMS, attention in all the proper spots, so I won't complain). Back to the room, we started on the massage. She's capable of giving a very good massage when she likes you, is in a very good mood, or is just inspired I've decided. The first time I saw her, the massage was only so-so, the second time was a bit better, but still not that great. This time was excellent. Just the right amount of pressure, and she worked all the knots out of my back. I wouldn't have minded some lotion, but it's not a total loss since most girls go overboard on the lotion instead. The soft touch was vastly superior to any of the other providers I've seen there. It was probably on par with this place in Philly I went to once back in 2007. Anyways.
As we progress through the soft touch towards the flip, I finally remembered her name and the fact that she likes to negotiate the tip with you. I think to myself: "Fine, I'll play the bargaining game this one time and see what happens." She asks how much, and I think for a second before saying a number. A little pouting on her part. A frown or two on my part. We eventually reached a mutually agreeable number. Off came her clothes, revealing her very lovely and tight body so the happy ending could properly begin. If someone cares to exchange information in more detail, they're welcome to PM me about the very enjoyable experience. Put mildly, there was more on the menu this evening than I expected and I was a very happy man for being willing to negotiate tonight. Afterwards, she massaged me for a few more minutes before stepping out of the room to get me a bottle of water. As I was dressing, we talked a bit more, mostly about the really nasty weather outside. Just as I'm reaching for my wallet to get her tip out, we hear a commotion in the next room and she runs out the door. I hear a bit of a scuffle, what sounded an awful lot like some colorful comments in Korean, which I speak about three dozen words of. God bless that one random layover in Seoul.
She comes back in, looking scared to death. I ask if something's wrong, and she informs me that the guy in the next room, no shit, bit his provider. She even gave an adorable impression of someone chomping down on an imaginary arm to illustrate her point. At this point, I ask if the guy needs to be thrown out. She says it's already been taken care of. I ask if the girl in question is OK, and she says she's just scared and really shaken up. As I'm walking out the door, the young lady who was bitten is standing by the break room looking absolutely terrified. MMS even apologized for the disturbance and the wait earlier as she says goodbye. Personally, the wait didn't bother me, the commotion on the other hand annoys me. I firmly agree with Pilot's philosophy of being to the ladies, because nice guys do not finish last in this particular event.
Anyways, there's crazy saga of what happened this one time Skwishy went to Papaya during a thunderstorm. Cheers gentlemen, be nice to the ladies.
Ginger Man
09-08-11, 14:44
This is going to be one of the more memorable evenings spent at an AMP, I'll say that to start. I went to Papaya after my date stood me up, leaving me in Tyson's all dressed up with nothing to do. I drove over to Papaya, and it didn't look terribly busy. Wrong. It was packed, but MMS let me in and had me sit in the break room for a while with a bottle of water. We spent probably 20 or 25 minutes making small talk while we waited for one of the providers to finish up with her current client. The doorbell rang a few times while we were chatting, and a couple of guys were told they were busy.
Once a room opened up, MMS took me back to the room, collected the house fee for my hour and left me to start undressing. In walks Bonnie, who I've seen a couple of times before, but couldn't put a name to her gorgeous face until about half an hour later. This was a very pleasant surprise since I'm not used to seeing the same provider at Papaya more than twice since they rotate through so fast. The place was packed tonight, despite the weather, so there was a lot of talking going on in the hallway as people came and went, including a very drunken sounding guy asking to see whoever slept there.
We headed to the TS where she had an amusing conversation in Korean with MMS through the curtain about a third of the way into my TS (very well done TS even while she was talking to MMS, attention in all the proper spots, so I won't complain). Back to the room, we started on the massage. She's capable of giving a very good massage when she likes you, is in a very good mood, or is just inspired I've decided. The first time I saw her, the massage was only so-so, the second time was a bit better, but still not that great. This time was excellent. Just the right amount of pressure, and she worked all the knots out of my back. I wouldn't have minded some lotion, but it's not a total loss since most girls go overboard on the lotion instead. The soft touch was vastly superior to any of the other providers I've seen there. It was probably on par with this place in Philly I went to once back in 2007. Anyways.
As we progress through the soft touch towards the flip, I finally remembered her name and the fact that she likes to negotiate the tip with you. I think to myself: "Fine, I'll play the bargaining game this one time and see what happens." She asks how much, and I think for a second before saying a number. A little pouting on her part. A frown or two on my part. We eventually reached a mutually agreeable number. Off came her clothes, revealing her very lovely and tight body so the happy ending could properly begin. If someone cares to exchange information in more detail, they're welcome to PM me about the very enjoyable experience. Put mildly, there was more on the menu this evening than I expected and I was a very happy man for being willing to negotiate tonight. Afterwards, she massaged me for a few more minutes before stepping out of the room to get me a bottle of water. As I was dressing, we talked a bit more, mostly about the really nasty weather outside. Just as I'm reaching for my wallet to get her tip out, we hear a commotion in the next room and she runs out the door. I hear a bit of a scuffle, what sounded an awful lot like some colorful comments in Korean, which I speak about three dozen words of. God bless that one random layover in Seoul.
She comes back in, looking scared to death. I ask if something's wrong, and she informs me that the guy in the next room, no shit, bit his provider. She even gave an adorable impression of someone chomping down on an imaginary arm to illustrate her point. At this point, I ask if the guy needs to be thrown out. She says it's already been taken care of. I ask if the girl in question is OK, and she says she's just scared and really shaken up. As I'm walking out the door, the young lady who was bitten is standing by the break room looking absolutely terrified. MMS even apologized for the disturbance and the wait earlier as she says goodbye. Personally, the wait didn't bother me, the commotion on the other hand annoys me. I firmly agree with Pilot's philosophy of being to the ladies, because nice guys do not finish last in this particular event.
Anyways, there's crazy saga of what happened this one time Skwishy went to Papaya during a thunderstorm. Cheers gentlemen, be nice to the ladies.What kind of guy needs to hurt a woman? Or should I say what kind of scum bag? I have heard stories of much worse than this.
The job they do is so dangerous. Like you said, be nice to the ladies. They are usually nicer to us than we deserve.
Decided its time to try a new place. Place was decent, no complaints. Met Sony and received a great TS and massage. On the flip was told ' no trouble, right? '. So she proceeded clothless to six9 and it was amazing. Looks Is give a solid 8 with a great body, maybe upper 20's. Hard to tell age of these girls to me. Damage was. 8 plus. 8 with no complaints with smiles and promises of more next time.
Might I add the story of the girl being bitten is crazy! Dude needs to be talent out back and slapped around. But on the same token these girls should know better than to take in someone drunk, still no excuse.
I second that on Bonnie. Picked her out of a lineup when I was there. She is petite, a big pony tail, cute and with a warm personality. English is not great but no problem communicating what is needed in an AMP. She also used a different technique on me, (instead of the regular repetitive hammering motion, you know) , enjoyed it very much.
This is going to be one of the more memorable evenings spent at an AMP, I'll say that to start. I went to Papaya after my date stood me up, leaving me in Tyson's all dressed up with nothing to do. I drove over to Papaya, and it didn't look terribly busy. Wrong. It was packed, but MMS let me in and had me sit in the break room for a while with a bottle of water. We spent probably 20 or 25 minutes making small talk while we waited for one of the providers to finish up with her current client. The doorbell rang a few times while we were chatting, and a couple of guys were told they were busy.
Once a room opened up, MMS took me back to the room, collected the house fee for my hour and left me to start undressing. In walks Bonnie, who I've seen a couple of times before, but couldn't put a name to her gorgeous face until about half an hour later. This was a very pleasant surprise since I'm not used to seeing the same provider at Papaya more than twice since they rotate through so fast. The place was packed tonight, despite the weather, so there was a lot of talking going on in the hallway as people came and went, including a very drunken sounding guy asking to see whoever slept there.
We headed to the TS where she had an amusing conversation in Korean with MMS through the curtain about a third of the way into my TS (very well done TS even while she was talking to MMS, attention in all the proper spots, so I won't complain). Back to the room, we started on the massage. She's capable of giving a very good massage when she likes you, is in a very good mood, or is just inspired I've decided. The first time I saw her, the massage was only so-so, the second time was a bit better, but still not that great. This time was excellent. Just the right amount of pressure, and she worked all the knots out of my back. I wouldn't have minded some lotion, but it's not a total loss since most girls go overboard on the lotion instead. The soft touch was vastly superior to any of the other providers I've seen there. It was probably on par with this place in Philly I went to once back in 2007. Anyways.
As we progress through the soft touch towards the flip, I finally remembered her name and the fact that she likes to negotiate the tip with you. I think to myself: "Fine, I'll play the bargaining game this one time and see what happens." She asks how much, and I think for a second before saying a number. A little pouting on her part. A frown or two on my part. We eventually reached a mutually agreeable number. Off came her clothes, revealing her very lovely and tight body so the happy ending could properly begin. If someone cares to exchange information in more detail, they're welcome to PM me about the very enjoyable experience. Put mildly, there was more on the menu this evening than I expected and I was a very happy man for being willing to negotiate tonight. Afterwards, she massaged me for a few more minutes before stepping out of the room to get me a bottle of water. As I was dressing, we talked a bit more, mostly about the really nasty weather outside. Just as I'm reaching for my wallet to get her tip out, we hear a commotion in the next room and she runs out the door. I hear a bit of a scuffle, what sounded an awful lot like some colorful comments in Korean, which I speak about three dozen words of. God bless that one random layover in Seoul.
She comes back in, looking scared to death. I ask if something's wrong, and she informs me that the guy in the next room, no shit, bit his provider. She even gave an adorable impression of someone chomping down on an imaginary arm to illustrate her point. At this point, I ask if the guy needs to be thrown out. She says it's already been taken care of. I ask if the girl in question is OK, and she says she's just scared and really shaken up. As I'm walking out the door, the young lady who was bitten is standing by the break room looking absolutely terrified. MMS even apologized for the disturbance and the wait earlier as she says goodbye. Personally, the wait didn't bother me, the commotion on the other hand annoys me. I firmly agree with Pilot's philosophy of being to the ladies, because nice guys do not finish last in this particular event.
Anyways, there's crazy saga of what happened this one time Skwishy went to Papaya during a thunderstorm. Cheers gentlemen, be nice to the ladies.
Headed back after staying away for awhile. Had to wait about 20 minutes so decided to switch from 1hr to 30 min as it was getting late for me. MMS sent me in with Kim who was new. Think she was from Hawaii, mid 40's, large top. No TS and session lasted 20 min. Massage was avg to below avg-real quick. No upsell but did ask why I only gave. 4 for standard and not. 6, but for 20 mins I think that was generous. Nothing special but was satisfied overall.
WaffenSS68
09-09-11, 16:25
Took the FCCC phone number from post #5359 and made a visit after work. Two ladies were at the place: one looked over 40's and other one looked around early 30's or mid 30's. I would've stayed if either one of them looked decent. Language barrier was also present. Rate was $.5 for FS. Left the place and probably not going back there again. Any other fccc numbers? Pm please.
Bunker Buster
09-09-11, 19:59
Took the FCCC phone number from post #5359 and made a visit after work. Two ladies were at the place: one looked over 40's and other one looked around early 30's or mid 30's. I would've stayed if either one of them looked decent. Language barrier was also present. Rate was $.5 for FS. Left the place and probably not going back there again. Any other fccc numbers? Pm please.What kind of lowlife Nazi-romanticizing dipshit is this?
What kind of lowlife Nazi-romanticizing dipshit is this?One is really surprized where do some of the newbies come with their nicknames from. This one tops them all. I think he spelled wrong. It should've been Waffle Ass.
Took the FCCC phone number from post #5359 and made a visit after work. Two ladies were at the place: one looked over 40's and other one looked around early 30's or mid 30's. I would've stayed if either one of them looked decent. Language barrier was also present. Rate was $.5 for FS. Left the place and probably not going back there again. Any other fccc numbers? Pm please.The rate was what? $50. 00? For FS? Other thing, how come you go for dark hair I thought you guys like only blond.
I have been a regular at Peach Therapy in Annandale for the past few months. Today when I visited I received a very good TS & massage from Kimmie, a nice looking well-built lady who said it was her first week at Peach. HOWEVER, during the TS, Kimmie refused to touch "junior." Ok, I thought, chalking it up to it being her first week and first time with me.
HOWEVER, AFTER THE FLIP, I was astonished to learn that even a simple NOVA finish (hand job) was not on the menu. I found this very unusual. So I asked her to get the mamasan so I could speak to her directly. The mamasan came in and explained that Peach this week had instituted a new policy of MASSAGES ONLY without any additional services, due to orders from the owner, hinting at concerns with LE.
On the way out Kimme said I was the first customer this week to complain about the new policy, and I tipped Kimme $20 for a good massage.
I am wondering: Is this new policy for real at Peach? Or are they just trying to send me a message not to come back?
Zildjian29
09-10-11, 03:59
I am a newbie just wanted to let ya"ll in on some of my experiences. Visited peach the massage was rushed and the provider was very rude. They will never see my business again. I visited the fruit place in Tyson saw a provider named Bailey. The massage and ts was great. I have visited the fruit place twice thus far and my experiences have been great. I hope the fruit place does not change.
I second that on Bonnie. Picked her out of a lineup when I was there. She is petite, a big pony tail, cute and with a warm personality. English is not great but no problem communicating what is needed in an AMP. She also used a different technique on me, (instead of the regular repetitive hammering motion, you know) , enjoyed it very much.How come I don't get to pick out of a lineup in Papaya. What time do you usually go?
CourtesanLover
09-10-11, 16:03
Can anyone tell me where I can fnds ads for TCCC and FCCC. I RTFF but could not find out where they advertise, I have only heard about them on this forum. Please share any other relevant info.
Thanks.
CL
Pilot Aviator
09-10-11, 22:53
Gentlemen do not kiss and tell. And, perhaps anominity should not change that.
So. I'll not be posting about any visits to *
I'm sorry.
JJ. No need to add to my post count.
I had a great visit this week. But I will respect MMS and the lady's request for no-internet postings.
Be nice to the ladies.
PA
Tried all of these in the last month (can't recall the name of the rr location). No significant difference in service- all had average med pressure massage with standard NOVA finish. Prices about the same too- around. 8.6 But there was a huge difference in the hotness of the provider. The chick at Papaya was smoking, the other two were meh. Is this the norm or did I just hit Papaya on a really good day? Also, if anyone has a crystal city / pentagon city tip, I would appreciate it. Closer to home would be nice.
AKFourtySeven
09-11-11, 10:27
All of the girls at Papaya were smoking. What I object to that place is the heavy traffic and the rush to get you out of there. I haven't been to the other places.
CommonSense
09-11-11, 11:44
Tried all of these in the last month (can't recall the name of the rr location). No significant difference in service- all had average med pressure massage with standard NOVA finish. Prices about the same too- around. 8.6 But there was a huge difference in the hotness of the provider. The chick at Papaya was smoking, the other two were meh. Is this the norm or did I just hit Papaya on a really good day? Also, if anyone has a crystal city / pentagon city tip, I would appreciate it. Closer to home would be nice.Please help with address for papaya.
Please help with address for papaya.Papaya Therapy aka Hot Sun Spa.
7635 B Leesburg Pike
Falls Church, VA 22043.
703-917-0029 or 703-727-4555.
Papaya is about 1 mile inside beltway from Tysons Corner
Please help with address for papaya.Papaya Therapy
Phone: 703-917-0029
7635 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22043
Not sure yoyo still there! This lady IS HOT! She was the hottest AMP girl in VA.
Good Luck!
AKFourtySeven
09-11-11, 14:03
Please help with address for papaya.7635 Leesburg Pike Unit #B (2 floor) Falls Church, VA 22043
Please help with address for papaya.I see someone already posted address for this place, just in case if you can not find it here most places can be googled. Just type the name.
All of the girls at Papaya were smoking. What I object to that place is the heavy traffic and the rush to get you out of there. I haven't been to the other places.Yeah all the girls at Papaya are are pretty attractive imo. It's also nice that they all come in different looks and size (some are thin, some have nice boobs and ass) for all tastes.
Please help with address for papaya.Evidently Mr Commonsense has none to speak of.
Ted Williams
09-12-11, 09:35
So I haven't posted for a while due to lack of funding. Anyhow, I went to new establishment in herndon and drew happy. Older, probably late 40s maybe hitting near 50, very underwhelming look (face / body) , but pleasant attitude. To keep this brief, everything was standard NOVA (house fee / finish tip). Not worth any return unless the talent were to improve. This is frustrating.
Good day
Galaxyman12
09-12-11, 13:10
Gentlemen do not kiss and tell. And, perhaps anominity should not change that.
So. I'll not be posting about any visits to *
I'm sorry.
JJ. No need to add to my post count.
I had a great visit this week. But I will respect MMS and the lady's request for no-internet postings.
Be nice to the ladies.
PAI will miss your posts. They have been quite helpful in the past.
G-man
Bunker Buster
09-12-11, 16:00
Evidently Mr Commonsense has none to speak of.Because a Google search for Papaya Spa Virginia only turns up their website and a few dozen other results with the address.
I don't want to trash CommonSense, because he's been making contributions, so I'll just give him a whack for not living up to his own name.
New in Centreville, from backpage and CL. 1.8 for the hour is what she said. Looks nice. Any reports?
Vamassage Fan
09-12-11, 18:12
Google the telephone number, mostly you get ads for locater services, but also you get a name, and that name, when googled, reveals a host of media reports and trouble galore. She's advertised under a variety of names including "bond girl" before. Never seen anything good about her.
New in Centreville, from backpage and CL. 1.8 for the hour is what she said. Looks nice. Any reports?
Met Coco at Eva. My god, she is smoking hot. But that's the only positive thing I have to say. The TS was horrible as she refused a thorough cleaning, the massage was nothing to boast about, and the flip was less than standard. She apologized and promised more next time. Damages were. 8 and I left no extra for the lack of extra hampering. She claims to have been less than three weeks skilled in the trade. Will not repeat.
How come I don't get to pick out of a lineup in Papaya. What time do you usually go?Early afternoon. I avoid the place like a plague late and / or weekends.
All of the girls at Papaya were smoking. What I object to that place is the heavy traffic and the rush to get you out of there. I haven't been to the other places.I have been with 3 different providers@Papaya and saw 6 of them in a lineup. Sara and Bonnie were the cutest, two others were more top-heavy if that's your cup of tea, but not as much to look at IMO. But by and large, probably best quality group since the Sterling King Therapy days.
Ted Williams
09-13-11, 08:57
I decided to try another well established joint. I thought maybe I might get lucky and have a surprise here. NO, struckout. I was greeted by yoo. (not sure of spelling) Again an older lady (near 50) very below average looks. The massage was almost average. She, however, was very unpleasant, poor attitued, and kept towel on most of time. (should have realized this is a bad omen) There was a slight tease that made me believe it would end happily, but denied."We don't do that here!" So I just wasted some time and money, hopefully you all won't.
Good day
All these reports on Papaya made me want to visit an AMP today but since Papaya seems to be getting too much attention lately, I went out to MWC instead. It had always treated me well.
MWC appears to be closed. I was in the lot searching for their number to call and only to see that they've not been posting recently.
Anyone knows more info? I don't have the balls to hit up Papaya even more so now.
Galaxyman12
09-14-11, 00:45
Stopped by yesterday morning, the earlier the better. Met angel. Paid for an hour. Definitely worth the visit. Good TS and good massage. This place is just getting too much attention lately. Need to find a place that's off the radar. Some of the old standbys are now gone. MWC. 4 seasons.
G-man
Any Korean girls or even Chinese girls with similar features left like this?
http://www.korea1818.com
The girl in Japanese Guy, Korean Girl 6 is one that I'd love to fuck!
Sordo Scribe
09-14-11, 18:29
I tried one of those spas on Lee Highway near the circle. Drew Kim and she did a fab massage. Not greedy on the tip either so I may call this a keeper.
Any Korean girls or even Chinese girls with similar features left like this?
http://www.korea1818.com
The girl in Japanese Guy, Korean Girl 6 is one that I'd love to fuck!Around here you may get their mother, or, in some cases, grandma.
If the place gives a great massgae, and the girl is cute, I can live with no HE. But poor attitude and 50+ years is out of question. Honto is flagged.
I decided to try another well established joint. I thought maybe I might get lucky and have a surprise here. NO, struckout. I was greeted by yoo. (not sure of spelling) Again an older lady (near 50) very below average looks. The massage was almost average. She, however, was very unpleasant, poor attitued, and kept towel on most of time. (should have realized this is a bad omen) There was a slight tease that made me believe it would end happily, but denied."We don't do that here!" So I just wasted some time and money, hopefully you all won't.
Good day
I google phone numbers, but always get the hit from a pay site, so I never continue. Is there a free site that will return name for number?
Google the telephone number, mostly you get ads for locater services, but also you get a name, and that name, when googled, reveals a host of media reports and trouble galore. She's advertised under a variety of names including "bond girl" before. Never seen anything good about her.
Roamin Roman
09-15-11, 11:55
Can anyone tell me where I can fnds ads for TCCC and FCCC. I RTFF but could not find out where they advertise, I have only heard about them on this forum. Please share any other relevant info.
Thanks.
CLI won't flame you, any more than to say that your post reveals that you haven't RTFF enough. The info is here. You just need to do your research. Take time to familiarize yourself with the Forum. (As the philosopher once said,"Not all wisdom comes with a single cycle of the Sun.")
R:R
Capricaone
09-15-11, 23:01
Around here you may get their mother, or, in some cases, grandma.If you are willing to go with an agency, yes. But you cheap asses better be prepared to fork over at least 2. 6
Gentlemen do not kiss and tell. And, perhaps anominity should not change that.
So. I'll not be posting about any visits to *
I'm sorry.
JJ. No need to add to my post count.
I had a great visit this week. But I will respect MMS and the lady's request for no-internet postings.
Be nice to the ladies.
PAPA,
Sorry to read this post, you've contributed well to the cause but I do understand your compliance to MMS wishes.
If members only learned to use PMs to better effect, MMS would not likely be making such requests.
Your insights will be sorely missed!
Regards,
MnV
I ventured to Evergreen Wellness to try my luck again but, no surprise here, the door was locked, and now the phone has been disconnected. Oh well, off I go to one of my past spots, good old Chesapeake Bay fishing hole off of Ravensworth in Annandale.
I drew Jennifer, about 5'4", dark brown curly hair, pushing 40 but pretty cute, natural B / pushing C, nice bod, really nice butt. She executed a nice TS followed by a little finger play in the backdoor. She did an ok massage, with the best part being the hot towels she lays across my back. She told me she was close to her "monthly" so I did not venture to play down below. She spoke half Russian and half HJ with some finger play on the backdoor. Gave her 50. She has a good attitude. I probably won't repeat just because overall she didn't really turn me on as other providers I have had in the past. I'm getting particular now so I want to find someone to excite me more.
Anyway, for you old timers out there, this spot is still kicking and alive.
So, what's the story over at 7635 Leesburg Pike 2nd Floor?
Are there two distinct businesses running there or one with two phones and many names or what?
I have had the best sessions since way long ago there and want it to continue to be available!
Someone, please explain! PM is okay, open forum is okay too!
JJ
Stopped by and asked for hour session, got a table shower and a massage. She actually gave a good massage. Last 20 minutes was a handshake session. She was older then I would have liked. Kinda like being given a bath by your mother. Little disturbing. Oh well.
Nova Player
09-19-11, 21:56
Hello all,
Its been a very long while since I visit this forum and associated fun places in Nova. Two weeks ago, I was on a job training near T*son, so decided to lookup on CL. Found one, and visited PPA in the afternoon. A very attractive girl. Mid or late twenty. Took me to TS. Nothing special about the TS service, but I thin it was too quick and rushed, compared with what I used to have three years ago in other places. Her name is Yugi (or Yougi) , was wearing a thin and long shirt, revealing a nice pair of C-cup. This is really surprised, as I recall other places in Nova was filled with 40ish girls or olders. May be the economy now works for the monger's advantages wheryby the nice girls has to show up more to make a living? Anyway, the massage was okay and quick. Then the next step is the flipping, she allows lots of traveling up and down, while speaking HJ language. That was a good experience and I definitely come back for more of her or similar type.
Have been a lurker for awhile with a handful of AMP visits. Has anyone been to studio in sterling? I saw their add on BP and they boast latinas. Are they legit and what is their address. They only list a number and I like to scope out a place before I visit. Feel free to pm me and thank you!
Galaxyman12
09-20-11, 09:36
So, what's the story over at 7635 Leesburg Pike 2nd Floor?
Are there two distinct businesses running there or one with two phones and many names or what?
I have had the best sessions since way long ago there and want it to continue to be available!
Someone, please explain! PM is okay, open forum is okay too!
JJThey have been running many ads in backpage without a spa name. Saw one listed as Popeye club. Same address different numbers. You won't see ads listed using Papaya anymore. All the same business. The last time I was there I asked why. Just got a smile and no response.
G-man
Galaxyman12
09-20-11, 09:39
Stay away. Far away. Not worth your time or money.
Guitarman1
09-20-11, 11:38
After some time away I am back into the AMP scene.
Last week I visited Orient. I was greeted by Lisa who would also be taking care of me. She is a cute 30's K-girl. She provided a very thorough and playful TS. After drying we went back to the room. She provided a nice thorough massage which left me very relaxed. Back, shoulders, legs, feet, etc. Finish was standard but enthusiastic. After she cleaned me up she gave me a nice neck massage to complete our time. It was nice to get back to an old favorite.
I hit the bay this morning and to my surprise had a nice visit, the massage was excellent and finish even better. I was introduced to Jennifer! It had been awhile since I was last there as I use to go often when Coco was working but as we all know they move on and since then I've been somewhat disappointed with their choices of therapists, as no one seemed to be able to fill her shoes. Well I think things have changed recently. For those interested there is a description of her in a post below, though I think I might have gotten a bit better session. Recommended.
MnV
Just checkin. Anybody here of her since MWC shutdown?
Scorpion King
09-20-11, 23:21
Does anybody have any info on Cindy and / or Kayla?
Scorpion King
09-20-11, 23:41
Does anybody know where did they go.
They used to be on 50 and 495 in Fairfax near hospital.
Scorpion King
09-20-11, 23:49
Two women working, both in her 40's or more.
Massage was good, but didn't enjoy much. Is there any place with a little younger women.
I recently visited Canada and the AMP are cheaper, I visited 3 spas and found all the women in her 20's, smoking.
CTM stand for Comfort Theraputic Massage.
7015 Old Keene Mill Road # 102.
Springfield, VA 22150-2805.
(703) 866-7787
I just came up here to Fairfax for some training, and was planning to relax afterwards. Did my research, and was planning on visiting either MWC or Papaya. But now that I'm here, it seems that MWC is closed, and Papay is getting a little too much attention lately. So any help pointing me inthe right direction would be appreciated.
Does anyone know what happened at Spa Castle. Went there a few weeks ago and saw Candy and had an above average NOVA finish. She is over weight and a little wacky, but a good time.
Yesterday I went again (forgot who I drew) but had a completely different experience. First, there was no table shower, not even a table in the shower room. I was assisted in my shower but it certainly was not thorough, never a good sign of things to come. Back to the room for the massage, completely draped the whole time. Lots of oil, but actually one of the best massages I ever received at an MP. It was like an actual spa day. The doorbell rang a few times and she had to go answer it each time. This was kind of annoying but lead me to believe she was alone. The massage lasted about 70 min, I noted the time on the wall when I arrived and after she said "all done honey". I asked if the "massage" was over and she said yes.
SInce it was a great and relaxing massage and went over a few minutes I still tipped $20, but I guess this will be out of the rotation for a while.
Anyone know when they got popped?
Either 2238 or 2240 Gallows road. I haven't been to 2240, and was at 2238 a few months back when Nicki was there. I'm sure she's gone now. They both advertise on BP.
I just came up here to Fairfax for some training, and was planning to relax afterwards. Did my research, and was planning on visiting either MWC or Papaya. But now that I'm here, it seems that MWC is closed, and Papay is getting a little too much attention lately. So any help pointing me inthe right direction would be appreciated.
Does anybody have any info on Cindy and / or Kayla?They stopped advertising about August 1st and have not advertised since. Phones are disconnected. Likely on permanent "vacation". A great loss to the area.
Galaxyman12
09-22-11, 00:46
Does anyone know what happened at Spa Castle. Went there a few weeks ago and saw Candy and had an above average NOVA finish. She is over weight and a little wacky, but a good time.
Yesterday I went again (forgot who I drew) but had a completely different experience. First, there was no table shower, not even a table in the shower room. I was assisted in my shower but it certainly was not thorough, never a good sign of things to come. Back to the room for the massage, completely draped the whole time. Lots of oil, but actually one of the best massages I ever received at an MP. It was like an actual spa day. The doorbell rang a few times and she had to go answer it each time. This was kind of annoying but lead me to believe she was alone. The massage lasted about 70 min, I noted the time on the wall when I arrived and after she said "all done honey". I asked if the "massage" was over and she said yes.
SInce it was a great and relaxing massage and went over a few minutes I still tipped $20, but I guess this will be out of the rotation for a while.
Anyone know when they got popped?Can't give you any info for spa castle but the last couple of weeks, I have seen dramatic changes in the northern va AMPs. The last 2 AMPs I have visited recently, the providers were very cautious. This site has been great with providing mongers with up to date intel on the local scene. It also has provided intel for LEO as well. I am sure they lurk on this site as well. We all have been guilty with providing too much information at times on this site. Be safe and cautious. What we post here can be read by all.
G-man
Original Gster
09-22-11, 09:19
I've been out of the game for a while, but getting that old familiar feeling of yellow fever again. I'm pleasantly surprised by the number of establishments in the area, especially in a tight radius around ffx / tysons / vienna. I will get out there and earn my stripes and post some intel. Interesting how the game has relo'ed to NoVA now that DC is a ghost town. It used to be just the opposite.
OG
Visited yesterday morning as I like to be the first one to get the fresh meat. Linda told me I can choose, but when I arrived only one girl was available. Oh well. Not bad looking for Chinese, didn't ask for name. One of the best massages I have ever received at FCCC, but the rest of the service sucked. Try to play, no response, wouldn't even let me open the Y, no matter how I tried. C-section scar. Ok. Didn't go to FS, just CBJ to finish and get out of there. Think I will stay low for a while.
What is up with this place? I've been surfing the net and came across this place. Its in Herndon. No intel on it here. Only limited info on some other sites. Any one got some good experiences or memories from this place? How are the girls there? Hopefully younger and better looking? PM is fine. Thanks
Scorpion King
09-22-11, 20:31
Age: Guessing between 27 and 35.
Body: Natural and fit.
TS: 9 out of 10.
Massage: 6 (too soft, maybe she was tired)
Back play and tease: 8.
Ro@ming: Full.
Cl1MAX: 8 out of 10 (with great attitude)
Repeat: yes.
Demage: Eight & Six.
There were two providers only and I forgot her name seriously, but she was the short one.
Scorpion King
09-22-11, 20:34
Private setup near Tyson$?
Two Thai pr0vid3rs
AKFourtySeven
09-23-11, 09:32
I'm kinda glad I never found this place. I thought they were guarenteed full service? BTW, don't provide any info backchannel. Every time I try to contact the people at FCCC I got knowhere. They appear to not be accepting new customers.
Stopped by MTM this week. The place was clean and quite. Standard damage, standard time:.8. 4. No complaints, but probably won't be going back.
Phaik Naim
09-23-11, 12:43
Jeez. With a website like that how long can they expect to stay in business? Something seems weird. The text seems written by someone whose 1st language is not English. It also seems too elaborate and graphically professional to be a sting setup, but far bolder than would seem prudent for the owner of such a business who possessed ordinary intelligence. Definite TGTBT feel to the whole thing. Anyone have any insights?
I called about a week ago, girl sounded nice, said that it was 1. 8. Which with a tip gets over $2. Which is too rich even for Jr. She said that the girls are licensed, but put the added sensuality on top. I know the web pics are f-in wild. They'll be shut down in short order. Once LE finds out where they are.
Jeez. With a website like that how long can they expect to stay in business? Something seems weird. The text seems written by someone whose 1st language is not English. It also seems too elaborate and graphically professional to be a sting setup, but far bolder than would seem prudent for the owner of such a business who possessed ordinary intelligence. Definite TGTBT feel to the whole thing. Anyone have any insights?
MrSunnyHills
09-23-11, 13:32
Two women working, both in her 40's or more.
Massage was good, but didn't enjoy much. Is there any place with a little younger women.
I recently visited Canada and the AMP are cheaper, I visited 3 spas and found all the women in her 20's, smoking.Hey Scorp,
Where in Canada was it? Did you use international. Guide. Info for intel?
Thanks, Mr. S
Miketastic69
09-23-11, 15:00
I'm kinda glad I never found this place. I thought they were guarenteed full service? BTW, don't provide any info backchannel. Every time I try to contact the people at FCCC I got knowhere. They appear to not be accepting new customers.I have been trying to find them since like February. I called a number someone gave me via back channel. Set up and appointment and journeyed over. I got to the parking lot and called to get the final destination. The person on the phone said "you post our info on blogs. We not let you in!" I tried to reply, but she hung up. I got no answer after that. I ended up leaving and not trying again.
Its hit or miss, so I am glad to not be let in that day. Definitely an attitude going that day!
Scorpion King
09-23-11, 21:39
Hey Scorp,
Where in Canada was it? Did you use international. Guide. Info for intel?
Thanks, Mr. SM0ntreal.
I could not find much info on world$sxguide. I searched backpage and just google searched for a few hrs and collected some intel.
I visited 3 places and tried Arab, Asian and Canadian local. I must say,"The best"
Pilot Aviator
09-24-11, 08:30
I don't know if they are experiencing more attention from accreditation boards, health inspectors or other official government agencies. Or if they only perceive there is extra attention right now. Perception is reality for them, and the ladies are really nervous about this forum and information related to the hobby.
I know it will seem like less information to the hobbiests. But, until the ladies calm down, even more discretion is called for on our part. So anticipate more PMs asking for details.
This week my ATF was away. I stopped at a nice, but older place. Great massage.
Standard for the area.
Be nice (and cautious). The ladies will appreciate it.
PA
Private setup near Tyson$?
Two Thai pr0vid3rsJust off Route 50, a miles west on the Beltway. She and KK share a house.
Guitarman1
09-25-11, 14:39
I stopped by NSP for the first time in a long while. MMS remembered me.
I had to wait in a room while someone was finishing up. MMS got me some water and made sure I was comfortable while I waited. It appears there was only 1 girl working.
After the wait I was greeted by Chris, a cute slim K-girl who appeared to be in here 30's. She provided a thorough and playful TS. After that we went to the room and she provided a short, but good, neck and shoulders massage before the flip. Finish was also thorough and enthusiastic. After I finished she got me a hot towel then helped me get dressed. The shower and finish were great, but the massage was too short. I was there about an hour, but that included the wait.
I'm starting by getting back to my old favorites, then I'll see what is new.
Another good visit today over at Bay. 2nd time with Jennifer for an even better visit. The hot towel massages and back walking are very nice, not to mention you get the full hour when you pay for one, not 45min like some other establishments that try to rush you out. They seem to be trying to keep a client base and not just a revolving door approach, which is a welcome change for me of late.
MnV
Original Gster
09-27-11, 07:25
Stopped by MTM this week. The place was clean and quite. Standard damage, standard time:.8. 4. No complaints, but probably won't be going back.Ditto for me at MTM last week. I tried Y's a few blocks up the street, but the only option there was a MMS / provider that was WAY too old for my massage needs. I politely told her that I preferred my therapists much younger and I was able to recoup my. 8 fee. MTM was standard NOVA service by a 30s / 40ish K girl who was very cute. Attire was NOVA standard jean shorts and t-shirt and stayed on the entire time. TS and Massage were exceptional, however.
OG
MilliumMike
09-27-11, 10:36
Health and Service is closed at both sites and not answering any of their resent or past numbers. Any news on how to find them? Saw on here someone mentioned they may be relocating to VA.
Thanks
Recently found this online and had a little difficulty finding the location. It's tucked back behind other offices off the main road. Very clean facility. Open for a few weeks now. Mms is nice. Provider is K-girl in mid 30's with nice frame and fun size racks. Standard NOVA finish. Damage was. 8 and. 4
May return if convenient or in the area.
Cheers!
Ditto for me at MTM last week. I tried Y's a few blocks up the street, but the only option there was a MMS / provider that was WAY too old for my massage needs. I politely told her that I preferred my therapists much younger and I was able to recoup my. 8 fee. MTM was standard NOVA service by a 30s / 40ish K girl who was very cute. Attire was NOVA standard jean shorts and t-shirt and stayed on the entire time. TS and Massage were exceptional, however.
OG
MilliumMike
09-27-11, 16:41
Tried Suzy at Smiles, that was a bust, safe FS, covered towel massage, she seemed skidish. Tried Nikki at EverGreen (weekdayat12) about 2 weeks ago, good wash and HJ but stayed dressed.
Another good visit today over at Bay. 2nd time with Jennifer for an even better visit. The hot towel massages and back walking are very nice, not to mention you get the full hour when you pay for one, not 45min like some other establishments that try to rush you out. They seem to be trying to keep a client base and not just a revolving door approach, which is a welcome change for me of late.
MnVI've been here a few times over the last couple months. 1st time was a roar with a slim, tatted, super-talky, raunchy (nice!) girl Sky. Last 2 times with Jennifer. If I had my druthers I'd like a hotter girl but the massage was awfully good. The Russian finish was decent although I've had better.
All in all no complaints. Will go back and try options but wouldn't be disappointed to repeat with Jen.
Just off Route 50, a miles west on the Beltway. She and KK share a house.Strictly professional and respect your privacy like they ask of theirs. They give very good massages, combination Thai, therapeutic and hot stone.
Looks like I'm not the only one in search of the "yo-yo"! LOL.
MnVWhich yo-yo? I know where a couple have gone.
I don't see any reports on this place, at least not in recognizable format. They have been advertising on CL forever. Could be a legit place, but something makes me think maybe not. Any intel would be most appreciated.Not very good. Old, no selection. Didn't feel clean.
Since I saw some good reviews here, I went to the Bay myself and asked for Jennifer. While I had a good time, it wasn't up to the level that everyone else has commented on here. I'm chalking it up to being a new face.
Vamassage Fan
09-28-11, 18:34
Plenty of bad reports if you do careful research.
Not very good. Old, no selection. Didn't feel clean.
Wahooboy94
09-28-11, 23:03
Visited the CTM ladies prior to the Skins / Cowboys game. First time I've seen Sara since her trip back home. Got Yumi. As per my other CTM reviews, the service was excellent. And very wet.
OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! :)
MnV
Which yo-yo? I know where a couple have gone.
137594
I decided to post this again, becase I can't believe that noone would seen her. Few more details about her. She worked as Yoyo at Orange in DC back in 08, then was off for a while, then moved to NoVa and worked at Golden Spa in Alexandria in late summer in 09. Don't know what name she used there. I've lost track of her in spring 10. Other source told me she still around, probably Annandale / Alexandria area. Other thing she speaks almost no english. Anyone with any info please PM me. Thank you
AKFourtySeven
09-29-11, 10:41
Looks vaguely familiar. I don't think I've seen her recently.
Been a long time since I've posted. Slowly getting back into the game.
Went over to ppy last week before lunchtime. Place was pretty quiet. Asked for lineup, saw three ladies and picked bonnie. As others have mentioned, she is short, cute, natural bee cups. Ts was good covered all the spots, she hiked up her skirt to keep from getting wet giving me a nice view under the hood as a bit of a tease. She is a litte aggressive with the tip but I don't mind. Negotiating (haggling) is the way in most asian countries. You just have to roll with it and not take it personally.
Massage was average, nothing great but finish was definitely above average. She mentioned she'd be away for a week and then coming back, not sure if that is this week or not.
In reading recent posts, seems like we're keeping the details down to a minimum and I will do the same.
Stopped by for visit and got Linda. Hour service started with ts. She paid extra attention to my back crack which I though odd. But later understood why. She made me pucker up. Was a memorable experiance. Would repeat.
CommonSense
09-29-11, 20:42
OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! .
MnVIf you find her roomate tattoo michele you will find her, so if any of you have seen michele please let us know.
Bostonpeter
09-29-11, 22:29
I have it on good authority that Yoyo is no longer in the area, and won't be returning. Seniors can PM me for details.
Stopped by for visit and got Linda. Hour service started with ts. She paid extra attention to my back crack which I though odd. But later understood why. She made me pucker up. Was a memorable experiance. Would repeat.South American or Georgian?
MnV
OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! .
MnVThis Yoyo must have talents too make up for her exterior LOL.
I wouldn't have even noticed her at any AAMP let along if she were walking in the Mall.
She musta "rocked" Hofi's world. Haha.
PC out
So I had an appointment today so I arrive at the office park and when I'm coming around the corner in my car I see this black Crown Victoria (or it could have been a Lincoln town car) with tinted windows parked literally directly across the street from Papaya's door, facing papaya's entrance! And the driver just sitting in the car behind the tinted glass. Coincidentally Mamasan was taking out a bag of trash to the dumpsters as I'm coming around the corner in my car and she too seemed to notice the car and she did not take her eyes off it as she crossed the street on her way to the dumpter, I slowed down to let her cross the street then kept on driving straight, and left. It smelled like bacon to me.
Has anybody else seen this before? Am I just being paranoid? I mean, if it were a pig he was doing nothing to hide or to blend in being parked where he was, the way he was, driving that car. But then maybe he wanted to be seen as a tactic to scare away customers or scare our therapists.
Pilot Aviator
09-30-11, 23:54
Several places that I know of all had visits this week.
Things will hopefully settle down soon.
PA
So I had an appointment today so I arrive at the office park and when I'm coming around the corner in my car I see this black Crown Victoria (or it could have been a Lincoln town car) with tinted windows parked literally directly across the street from Papaya's door, facing papaya's entrance! And the driver just sitting in the car behind the tinted glass. Coincidentally Mamasan was taking out a bag of trash to the dumpsters as I'm coming around the corner in my car and she too seemed to notice the car and she did not take her eyes off it as she crossed the street on her way to the dumpter, I slowed down to let her cross the street then kept on driving straight, and left. It smelled like bacon to me.
Has anybody else seen this before? Am I just being paranoid? I mean, if it were a pig he was doing nothing to hide or to blend in being parked where he was, the way he was, driving that car. But then maybe he wanted to be seen as a tactic to scare away customers or scare our therapists.
Has anybody else seen this before? Am I just being paranoid? I mean, if it were a pig he was doing nothing to hide or to blend in being parked where he was, the way he was, driving that car. But then maybe he wanted to be seen as a tactic to scare away customers or scare our therapists.Had a similar sighting about one week ago in the MT parking lot.
The Speaker
10-01-11, 06:52
Went to Papaya Friday night to see girl Yuri. Mamason said she was arrested earlier that day for something (claimed she did not know for what). In turn that spooked some of the other girls and they left on there own. Only Bonnie and Jennifer were working only half and hour appointments only until get some more girls.
Called yesterday and asked who was working and MMS said all the old girls were gone. Asked who was working, said a K-girl named Kim (oh, a Korean girl named Kim? Really?). Asked how old she was and she said she's' younger than me which I didn't take as a good sign. Decided to look elsewhere.
Had a similar sighting about one week ago in the MT parking lot.Same w cmt.
AKFourtySeven
10-01-11, 10:01
I remember seeing CV interceptors at HWC in the months before it closed. I just drove thru the parking lot and out the other side. I haven't seen them at any other AMP. I do keep a lookout for them when I got to an AMP. I also oa new AMP so I know all the ways in and out of the parking lot.
I remember seeing CV interceptors at HWC in the months before it closed.That was some time ago. What I observed there at that time and reported were marked patrol vehicles manned by pigs tsaking pictures of the entrance with cameras fitted with telephoto lenses.
In an effort to get this thread back on track:
I was in serious need of a good massage so I went to Papaya again. Drew Pink who is a short and chunky girl and very pretty.
Standard services and pricing and I left feeling MUCH better!
JJ
Went to Papaya Friday night to see girl Yuri. Mamason said she was arrested earlier that day for something (claimed she did not know for what). In turn that spooked some of the other girls and they left on there own. Only Bonnie and Jennifer were working only half and hour appointments only until get some more girls.O wow, the LEO sighting in front of Papaya I reported was mid-afternoon Friday. It all makes sense now. I'm glad I drove in and out as soon as I caught a whiff of the bacon.
Be safe out there fellas.
Flyboy1544
10-01-11, 19:42
Business Travel this week, wanted a massage. Went to Evergreen, downtown. Saw Coco. You won't like the way it looks from the outside, but in was different. Great TS, GREAT massage, happy. A 10+ for me.
Aman Tuleev
10-01-11, 20:48
Went here recently. Met Linda. 4X nice Chinese lady. No TS, very good hard massage and some kind finish.
BTW, good if You are looking for good massage.
You should set appointment by phone before coming, it is some kind turn off.
Stay Safe,
Aman
Don't think it's a coincidence this occurred on 9/30. Probably some hapless sap needed another arrest to fill that end of quarter / fiscal year quota. Easy bust on a victimless crime.
Went to Papaya Friday night to see girl Yuri. Mamason said she was arrested earlier that day for something (claimed she did not know for what). In turn that spooked some of the other girls and they left on there own. Only Bonnie and Jennifer were working only half and hour appointments only until get some more girls.
A friend of mine went to River in Centreville. The talent Yumi actually pulled out her Ipad and starting to try to convince him to join a pyramid scheme during the massage! She even asked for his SSN! Unbelieveable! Even though she has the most beautiful Jugs, I would have been pissed. I wonder if this is something the mamasan is pushing the girls to do? I haven't been back to that place since they only gave me half the time I paid for (see old post). I don't know who is running that place, but they are their own worst enemy.
Lovejugs
I guess you've got to make money somehow. I haven't been since my last review (some time in the early summer) , but if this is what's going on I'm probably not going back. No matter how close it is.
A friend of mine went to River in Centreville. The talent Yumi actually pulled out her Ipad and starting to try to convince him to join a pyramid scheme during the massage! She even asked for his SSN! Unbelieveable! Even though she has the most beautiful Jugs, I would have been pissed. I wonder if this is something the mamasan is pushing the girls to do? I haven't been back to that place since they only gave me half the time I paid for (see old post). I don't know who is running that place, but they are their own worst enemy.
Lovejugs
OK, I'll play let's find Yo-Yo, last seen about a month ago at MWC! See attached photo below as graciously provided by brother Hofi35.
Oh Yeah, this must be a "morning after" shot! .
MnVWoah! Definitely not the yo-yo I know from MWC. Yo-yo I know is younger and definitely hotter (I know hotness is subjective).
Plenty of bad reports if you do careful research.Unfortunately, I went there when they first opened, and they haven't changed. I will also say that even though there might be many bad reports about certain places, many of the places rotate on a frequent basis, so it could be up to just darn luck in getting good over bad.
Galaxyman12
10-03-11, 23:20
Stopped by fccc. Too much focus on the local AMP scene recently. Again disappointed in the provider. The provider was in her 40's, lot of belly flab, sagging chest. Little head took over. She was pleasant and enthusiastic. Just wanted to get it over with and get out. Not worth a repeat.
G-man
Vamassage Fan
10-04-11, 13:06
NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html
Its election time
Richmond Mas
10-04-11, 13:22
NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html
Its election timeThis guy may be one frequent visitor himself. I don't trust him just on the way he looks. Massage polar has been around forever, and he is just bringing it up now?
MinoTaurus
10-05-11, 00:10
NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html
Its election timeReading that article almost makes me sick to my stomach. This whole notion of "human trafficking" and some sort of forced servitude / slavery by an organized criminal element is virtually 100% nonsense. I can speak from literal first hand experience that virtually all of these women (in the Korean AMPs. Which make up the vast vast majority) are 100% independent and working on their own accord. To include when they work, where they work, how long. Etc. There is no force involved whatsoever. There is no leadership. There is no criminal organization behind it. Yes, it is organized insofar as they all work via referral and connection. It is common that one of these older woman (who worked many years as an AMP girl) may very well now own her own spa / AMP (or a couple) so she has built up her "network" of friends and they work for together for their own mutual benefit. They all keep in touch and communicate and work at different spas for there own mutual benefit. They all "keep to themselves" and are secretive, obviously out of necessity. There is no controlling "head" or element in an organized crime manner however. Utter nonsense.
It is a perception of this. Only because of a culture difference and for those that want to perpetuate inaccuracies / false information for political leverage (this articles case). Yes. Quite often when they do work, it is usually the entire day. 7 days a week, for maybe a month or two or so at a time. They stay, quite often, in the AMP too. This is just how they do it. It is how they want to do it. It is a convenience and safety thing. It is a money thing. It is their culture. After hours, they socialize and relax (sometimes venturing out together to enjoy themselves after hours, run errands, etc.). They stick together. They do it this way because they are hard and honest workers. They do it this way because it attracts less attention by coming and going daily. They do it this way because they have a system that works.
They like that they can work in this manner for 2 or 3 months of the year. And conceivably vacation the rest. Many of these women have families and children and like that they can work 2 or 3 months a year and make, effectively, what a "normal" upper middle class worker in this country would make in an entire year of full time work. Some of them like that they can work 2 months, take a month off to relax. And repeat. They are quite often very frugal (there are cases of girls with drinking and gambling problems however). Maybe they'll do this for 6 to 8 years and then quite literally have enough to retire if they are wise with their money.
NOBODY IS GETTING HARMED. NOBODY IS A VICTIM (except for the gullible public masses that fall for propaganda like what is espoused in this article). Colossal waste of our tax dollars by LE. Victimless "crime". It sure makes a flashy platform for the Jim Bob running for political office (who I would bet my last dollar has / does frequent these places himself). The ignorant and jesus loves eat it up alike!
*Caveat: I'll admit that there may very well be VERY small pockets of abuse or coercion. But it is never in the Korean AMPs (again which make up the vast vast majority of AMPs). The rare latino or Russian places I've read about. I would not be surprised at all. But target those places. And make the effort to identify the real criminals behind them. Don't bother the women making a living for focks sake. If a woman is working via coercion. Then help her, don't make her a criminal.
AKFourtySeven
10-05-11, 09:42
I concur. I wonder when the raids will start? I remember seeing a girl show up in a BMW once.
This guy may be one frequent visitor himself. I don't trust him just on the way he looks. Massage polar has been around forever, and he is just bringing it up now?LOL, he's been in Congress for 30+ years. He's just trying to earn some brownie points with the "family values" crowd. And yeah, he looks like he's seen the inside of a few "places of ill repute" in his day.
This is a bit concerning though:
The locations are uniformly bland and low-key, on the outside. One parlor in Merrifield, enthusiastically reviewed by several mongers, was in an apartment-style office complex on Route 50 near Gallows Road, but was not open late last week. Another, in an office park near Fairfax Circle, was open but the woman at the desk said she was only a cleaning lady, and that nothing illegal occurred there.
At an industrial park in Chantilly, another well-reviewed parlor was sandwiched in between body shops and tire stores. A sign on the door said it was on vacation for four weeks. In another office park in Chantilly, near a dentist's office and a day care center, no one was available to be interviewed, the woman at the front desk said.
Just a friendly reminder that Uncle LEO can read this forum just as easily as you can. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what spots are being talked about.
I love getting details as much as anyone else but. . .nobody wants to see their favorite spots closed down or their face in the Post.
MinoTaurus
10-05-11, 11:36
.I remember seeing a girl show up in a BMW once.Darn straight. Further. I know more than one woman personally in the business. As an example. Used to keep in touch a little (been a couple years though) with one. She is married, has adult children now, takes / took multiple nice vacations a year, has two houses paid for. A third only a small mortgage on (that was then. Probably paid for now) , nice luxury cars, children's college paid for and finished, nice cash nest egg, etc. She worked very hard (like 5-6 months out of a year) for about 8 years if I recall the time frame correctly. She hasn't worked now for a couple years as everything is paid for and her husbands modest income provides plenty for their daily needs. I, for one, admire the dedication these women have for their families. We should these types of people into our society. They are a net gain overall to our country / economy. They take nothing in terms of government services, are entirely self reliant and supportive, and overall add to our economy / society. Fat lazy self-entitled white and black American women could learn a thing or two from them on hard work and dedication to their families.
MinoTaurus
10-05-11, 11:41
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Just a friendly reminder that Uncle LEO can read this forum just as easily as you can. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what spots are being talked about.
I love getting details as much as anyone else but. Nobody wants to see their favorite spots closed down or their face in the Post.This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.
This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.Oh, I agree. I wasn't saying for people to stop contributing, just be aware that there are a lot of extra eyes around here.
I concur with other posts on this topic so far and just wanted to add my $.02. Most AMP's hire women willing to work, and they tend to work hard for a short time and before cashing out. This is why there are always people on the board looking for his ATF, it's always possible she found greener grass, but more likely than not: she made enough money and quit the business temporarily or permenantly. I actually had a provider who wanted to be a masseuse (the legit kind) , and decided to work in AMP for a few months so she could gather enough capital to open her own business. I wouldn't be surprised there are women desperate for money turning to this, but I would be VERY VERY surprised if any of the places I have been to actually employ sex slaves like this article suggests. The providers would be Oscar-worthy actresses or liars. Because a lot of what we enjoy, is the attitude of the providers. I don't think most of us can have an enslaved, crying, upset and / or depressed provider and desire an HE from her. Case in point, if you walk into any AMP and ask for a provider who does FS, even if you are a regular, mamasan will always deny your request. If you find a providers willing and able, that's a different story because nobody forced her, but think about it, what kind of sex-slave brothel openly denies customers who want FS?
I have no doubt local operators actively recruit women who they know are in need of money. Questionable and / or possibly unethical business practice? Sure. Sex-slaving? Hardly! I think the biggest problem with Polaris' misconception about AMPs. They may read the forums, but they don't go into the AMPs as customers and don't see how the providers interact with customers and just simply don't know the whole picture.
Now the Latino (and / or Eastern European if there are any around here) operations, they are a different story as Tivoterry has suggested, and I wouldn't touch them with a 60-foot pole. Those are what Polaris and police should focus their energy upon if sex slave problem is what they really care about.
NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/novas-asian-massage-parlors-can-be-fronts-for-human-sex-trafficking-authorities-say/2011/10/03/gIQAeWO6IL_blog.html
Its election time
AKFourtySeven
10-05-11, 14:28
One reason these women can keep so much is they are not paying taxes like Americans are. AMPs are a cash business and they take advantage of that fact. If you or I didn't have to pay the IRS their vig we could retire early too.
Because I Can
10-05-11, 21:34
Been way to long since I have been active, am visiting from Baltimore and had an ache. Cute and bubbly provider, decent conversation. Standard rates and I left happy.
Would like some info on ACC if anyone is willing to share. No car so TCCC is not an option.
Pilot Aviator
10-05-11, 22:05
In NoVA there are many fine establishments.
From the outsode, many of them have seen better days, but inside is warm and a good massage.
I visited a place that has been mentioned on the list recently as having "official visitors" earlier in the week.
It was true. Inspectors came. Checked liscense and safety of facility. And left.
Yes. It is a time for discretion. So, I'll not identify it further. And I'll not name the therapist (other than to say, she was "new" (to me if not to others).
TS. OK. But this is a place that usually has great TS.
Massage. Was mostly soft. But of good quality.
Everything about normal. Except, after I arrived others kept ringing the bell. They go busy, so for my first visit with the lady, she cut my time short. Also unusual for this place.
MMS gave me a big hug as I left. Thanked me for being understanding.
Standard rates and tip. I was nice to the lady (but not more generous than was appropriate). Be discrete and you be nice also.
PA
IluvSmellyFish
10-05-11, 23:44
I know of AMPs that have been shut down because of too much publicity. Either their own or because of these kinds of forums. Share enough info to help keep your favorite spots in business but not enough to get them shut down. Post all your reports of unsatisfying encounters for the world to see.
This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.
Hey y'all, I'll be heading up to the Chantilly area this weekend for the gun show. I'm going to be getting a hotel room for the two day stint at the show (you can never see everything in one day, especially at a show this big) , and I'd like to find something to entertain me for the evening after the show closes. I know "NoVa" is a pretty big area, is there anything in easy driving distance of Chantilly that you would recommend? I would prefer not having to go into DC, but when push comes to shove, I won't be picky.
Thanks!
Hey why'all, I'll be heading up to the Chantilly area this weekend for the gun show. I'm going to be getting a hotel room for the two day stint at the show (you can never see everything in one day, especially at a show this big) , and I'd like to find something to entertain me for the evening after the show closes. I know "NoVa" is a pretty big area, is there anything in easy driving distance of Chantilly that you would recommend? I would prefer not having to go into DC, but when push comes to shove, I won't be picky.
Thanks!You know, you could always go to Red Tree at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd, or Friendly Feeling at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive.
I hear they're a real eye-opening experience. Top notch facilities, good service, they'll even provide transportation if you wish.
The staff is so great it'll be hard for you to leave.
Bunker Buster
10-07-11, 05:58
now the latino (and / or eastern european if there are any around here) operations, they are a different story as tivoterry has suggested, and i wouldn't touch them with a 60-foot pole. those are what polaris and police should focus their energy upon if sex slave problem is what they really care about.the ones that advertise on bp have a mix of girls who live in the us and those who come up to el norte on tourist visas for a few months to make a lot of easy money. most of these outfits are run by women who started out working themselves, and brought in friends of friends to expand the business.
girls who are being trafficked don't have their own cell phones, don't walk out of an apartment alone to open the back door of a secured building to discreetly let customers in, don't give out their email addresses, and don't go to dinner or ask customers to go out dancing (and i speak from experience).
the ms-13 run brothels with trafficked and / or **** girls don't advertise. even in some of those cheapo places, there are girls who come and go as they please. i also speak from experience here, although my knowledge of those kinds of places is about 5 years out of date.
Bunker Buster
10-07-11, 06:09
You know, you could always go to Red Tree at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd, or Friendly Feeling at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive.
I hear they're a real eye-opening experience. Top notch facilities, good service, they'll even provide transportation if you wish.
The staff is so great it'll be hard for you to leave.From earlier posts, Blarghonk appears to be still in, or recently out of the service. Although he asks a lot of questions for a guy without a lot of posts, let's not send him into hostile territory.
It's all good, I understand that when you transition from Japan and the International forum, you lose your post count and time on the boards, so it's expected. And I DID read the fucking forum, which gave me some good acronyms, but no real locations or even close names, which is why I asked for some clarification. But at the same time, the hesitation is also understandable, due to the nature of the game. I would never fault you guys for being overly cautious. Yes, I am still in the Air Force, but as a comm nerd, I'm about as far removed from a badge as you can possibly be. Your directions would have been helpful a few weeks ago, though, when I needed to get fingerprinted for my concealed carry permit.
There wasn't half a page of posts about how hot the AMPs are right now just one page back (pardon the rhyme). If you're out trying to hit AMPs for extras right now you might as well go to the station yourself.
Now for a non-asshole answer; you'd be better suited hitting up BP at the moment.
From earlier posts, Blarghonk appears to be still in, or recently out of the service. Although he asks a lot of questions for a guy without a lot of posts, let's not send him into hostile territory.
i was not going to get into this but since it is continuing i would like to bring to light as many might not realize or are ignoring this but in some of these asian (korean / chinese) massage services, the girls come here in debt. in debt to smugglers for the cost of visas and or airfare and in some cases obtained the fake or forged passports and visas (it has gotten easier for the korean young girls as they no longer need visas to come here). how do you think those from dirt poor or their countries middle class can afford the trip here. this might not be the case for a majority of the women in this area, as they are old and past their usefulness to some of the people in charge so they strike out on their own and are now making their own money. in the good ole ny where some of these girls are fresh in country, it is true. to stay away from the political aspects you just need to consult with a ny casa who have worked with some of these girls to know about that part of the business.
romanticize as you like but the nasty part of the business still exists.
the ones that advertise on bp have a mix of girls who live in the us and those who come up to el norte on tourist visas for a few months to make a lot of easy money. most of these outfits are run by women who started out working themselves, and brought in friends of friends to expand the business.
girls who are being trafficked don't have their own cell phones, don't walk out of an apartment alone to open the back door of a secured building to discreetly let customers in, don't give out their email addresses, and don't go to dinner or ask customers to go out dancing (and i speak from experience).
the ms-13 run brothels with trafficked and / or **** girls don't advertise. even in some of those cheapo places, there are girls who come and go as they please. i also speak from experience here, although my knowledge of those kinds of places is about 5 years out of date.
I started out years ago with the Washington Post sports section but that place has mostly dried up. I moved on the Washington City Paper which now has on-line classified as well, check the personal service ares as well. From there I went CL and you might know about why that dries up but the Thro section can still give you leads. On to BP and CV EROS, etc. The warning which you already know from reading this fucking forum, most of the ads are bullshit and the service in many places suck. The AMPs are mostly filled with dried up hads who finished their usefulness in the big thriving cities and are now here working for / with the MMS.
Hope this helds and welcome to this real world.
PS: hit a hot latina, please PM me, legally young spinners are my thing. Thanks.
It's all good, I understand that when you transition from Japan and the International forum, you lose your post count and time on the boards, so it's expected. And I DID read the fucking forum, which gave me some good acronyms, but no real locations or even close names, which is why I asked for some clarification. But at the same time, the hesitation is also understandable, due to the nature of the game. I would never fault you guys for being overly cautious. Yes, I am still in the Air Force, but as a comm nerd, I'm about as far removed from a badge as you can possibly be. Your directions would have been helpful a few weeks ago, though, when I needed to get fingerprinted for my concealed carry permit.
Received some inside information about what happened on 9/30. Supposedly a monger came in and wanted FS (and not the first time this guy has done this at the Fruit) and was denied by the girls and he threatened to call police in retaliation, and I am guessing he did since FF's finest showed up on the same day. Anyway, I was told some of the girls got scared and left the Fruit for good, but nobody got arrested. I checked out the Fairfax police's weekly arrest list (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt) and that appears to be the case. Looks like a few mamasans in the area got rounded up for not having license and allowing unlicensed therapy, but no providers (at least none with Asian names) were hooked.
Anyway, I just wanted to vent on what a fucking loser this monger is. Drove away some of the best girls around here, and for what?
Aman Tuleev
10-07-11, 20:25
Romanticize as you like but the nasty part of the business still exists.My last ATF, she is working in AMP, and she is very inteligent and very kind Chinese woman, she told me that she is CMT, and she did work in medical office for a long time, and moved to AMP after. And, I do beleive that, because she is very skilled.
My previous ATF, many of You know her well, she is korean, she did serve in USA mil, and she is also moved to AMP by her voluntary decision. She did grow here from ordinary provider to owner of place where she is working now. I'd not tell that she is very rich and spoiled, she is still driving her nissan maxima 199X and she is very modest in everything, I mean living, dressing, etc.
BTW, I think that a time, when some trafficking had place in AMPs, is gone long ago. Now it is mostly voluntary endevour.
Just 2C.
Stay Safe, and be kind with ladies,
Aman
Yes, and those that you mentioned were young girls of 19. 25 with little or no English? It is still happening not always in the way we hear from politicos. Most need the funds to get here and the assistance in getting the visas. There are a lot of legit agencies who help the girls get the visas, some let the girls pay off their debt on their own and a lot enslave the girls until the debt is paid.
Interview a NY CASA worker, they will tell you.
Now granted a great many of these older ones get busted and will cry they were traffic and that might have been true years before but not likely at the time they are crying. These are facts and human trafficking is not just kidnapping and bringing the girl against their will some are recruited into the fold they just do not realize the amount and time it takes to pay back what is owed.
My last ATF, she is working in AMP, and she is very inteligent and very kind Chinese woman, she told me that she is CMT, and she did work in medical office for a long time, and moved to AMP after. And, I do beleive that, because she is very skilled.
My previous ATF, many of You know her well, she is korean, she did serve in USA mil, and she is also moved to AMP by her voluntary decision. She did grow here from ordinary provider to owner of place where she is working now. I'd not tell that she is very rich and spoiled, she is still driving her nissan maxima 199X and she is very modest in everything, I mean living, dressing, etc.
BTW, I think that a time, when some trafficking had place in AMPs, is gone long ago. Now it is mostly voluntary endevour.
Just 2C.
Stay Safe, and be kind with ladies,
Aman
Aman Tuleev
10-08-11, 08:38
Yes, and those that you mentioned were young girls of 19. 25 with little or no English?
Of course not. I just wondering if You could find such in NoVa AMPs. It was just my opinion, since many of AMPs in NoVa are under radar, You will find here older providers, who are working on voluntary basis. Prolly, You could find trafficking in TCCC or FCCC or CCCP, but not in AMP.
Of course, I could be wrong. I just wrote about things I see.
Stay Safe,
Aman
Bostonpeter
10-08-11, 16:51
Yes, and those that you mentioned were young girls of 19. 25 with little or no English? It is still happening not always in the way we hear from politicos. Most need the funds to get here and the assistance in getting the visas. There are a lot of legit agencies who help the girls get the visas, some let the girls pay off their debt on their own and a lot enslave the girls until the debt is paid.
Interview a NY CASA worker, they will tell you.
Now granted a great many of these older ones get busted and will cry they were traffic and that might have been true years before but not likely at the time they are crying. These are facts and human trafficking is not just kidnapping and bringing the girl against their will some are recruited into the fold they just do not realize the amount and time it takes to pay back what is owed.I can't speak about Chinese girls, but AMPs in this area are primarily S. Korean in this area. As of 2008, S. Korea and the US have a visa-waiver system, so they can enter the country visa-free for business and vacation for 3 months. For this reason there is no need to smuggle S. Korean girls into this country, they can hop on an airplane at their leisure to enter the US.
Now, there are S. Korean loan sharks, but that has nothing to do with their visas. Its not like they would have any power in getting these girls legal visas anyway. Most S. Korean immigrants that overstay their visitor visa, usually need to borrow money due to the more mundane things. As we all know, its near impossible to rent an apartment, get a line of credit, pay utilities, or even get a cellphone contract with a major retailer without credit history or a social security number. They also need transportation. This is where they get in debt. There are unsavory people willing to lend money to people, help them out with the logistics of American life, at high interest rates. But again, these aren't limited to girls, or even girls that work in AMPs, they are for a large set of S. Korean immigrants with shaky immigration status. Let's also keep in mind, that S. Korea is not third-world country. Its a prosperous country. Home of the Samsungs and Hyundais of the world. They are not impoverished people coming to the US for a lack of a better life.
Which is why I've advocated here in the past to tip the girls right. They'll leave for greener pastures in other places where they can make more money. These AMPs are mostly owned by former-AMP girls, many of them also work at the location they own. They are highly mobile, they aren't tied down. For most of these S. Korean AMPs they aren't 'sex slaves'. For the Chinese girls, maybe, I wouldn't know. A lot of this is simply political demagoguing.
I have about 2 AMPs (therapists) that I like to visit, and occasionally venture out to a new one based on various reports. As many of you know that it is not the AMP, but the therapist that makes the difference. I like to stick with one therapist at each AMP, maintaining a couple dependables, and sample new opportunities (generally disappointed with a large percent for various reasons).
One of the places is M&M Wellness; it is a clean place with 3-4 rooms on the 2nd floor. I've seen 4 or 5 providers over a number of months, and currently see Jeanie (sp?). She gives a great TS, Massage and I've always left feeling good.
Galaxyman12
10-10-11, 13:18
I have been seeing ads in BP for 4 seasons. Looks like they are back in business. I have not been by there since the early summer. Does anybody have any intel on them?
G-man
Pilot Aviator
10-10-11, 16:58
A few days ago I unexpectedly finished my work for the day about 3 hours sooner than expected, and since I had to cancel my usual appointment earlier in the week (due to work) , I called MMS and was able to book a convenient appointment. The cars in the parking lot told me there were likely other customers, but within a few minutes of my arrival, I was the only client in the place.
MMS laughed lightly when I called ealier in the week, sounded sad when I had to cancel, and smiled when I arrived. And then chastized me because it had been at least three weeks since I had visited (too much work. But I called each time to cancel my appointment. I think if any business provides the courtesy of an appointment, we owe them to courtesy to cancel if we can't keep an appointment)
All the rooms at this SPA are nice. The one this day is smaller than some, but still nice. The TS is one of the top two I've every seen.
As always, everything clean, fresh linen, etc.
A good TS, a great massage.
I was very happy for my visit today. I even credit MMS for arranging the weather to be more like a spring day in May than that of cool October!
I am glad to be their customer. I think they are happy to have my custom.
This visit was superb. Will repeat. And as usual, I hope to be remembered always for being nice to the ladies.
PA
Mustang946
10-11-11, 12:56
I was out and about during the government holiday yesterday and completed my errands early. I called my go-to location and asked if my favorite was in and available. Yes, she was in and available. I have not seen her for months as our schedules did not match up until yesterday. Although it was a government holiday, all or most of the businesses in this mostly medical park were open. This business and therapist are well known to those of you who are regulars on this board. After an enthusiastic greeting, it was off to the TS. The water was hot (so was she) and the usual great cleansing began. She took the time to use a pumice stone to remove the dead skin on the bottom of my feet and also trimmed the nails. She asked and I accepted a shampoo. I usually don't do this but the more she touches me, the more I like it. Back in the room, we spent a lot of time catching up. She remembered details that I had told her a long time ago. It was another great session with her both massage and personality wise. Since she has expanded her availability, I will be likely be able to see her more often.
What's up Gentlemen. I'm new to this area. New to this website in general. Tried an AMP in Chantilly and it was a horrible and dry experience. I was hoping some people can help me out in finding a nice Parlor w decent looking females. Price is no issue. Just looking for CONSISTENT appointments somewhere reliable.
Thanks
What's up Gentlemen. I'm new to this area. New to this website in general. Tried an AMP in Chantilly and it was a horrible and dry experience. I was hoping some people can help me out in finding a nice Parlor w decent looking females. Price is no issue. Just looking for CONSISTENT appointments somewhere reliable.
ThanksReally? Dude, get a clue. This is how it works around here.
RTFF.
Go out and play.
Report on your new friends.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Then, after you have some credibility, you may make inquiries.
Until then, every question will meet with a response equivalent to "Shut up and color."
Benefactor9
10-11-11, 21:54
What's up Gentlemen. I'm new to this area. New to this website in general. Tried an AMP in Chantilly and it was a horrible and dry experience. I was hoping some people can help me out in finding a nice Parlor w decent looking females. Price is no issue. Just looking for CONSISTENT appointments somewhere reliable.Sure thing, Tony! There is a new AMP in town. It is Benefactor's own Anal Massage Parlor in Falls Church. The facility is in my own backyard and after you pay mamasan the house fee, she straps you down to your very own cedar table and goes to get your masseuse Ben. I hear that Ben is fantastic at the anal massage and is sure to dilate your ringpiece to magnificent geometric shapes.
Seniors PM me for details.
The Speaker
10-12-11, 10:06
Decided to try this new place off of Sunset Hills (11337). Was greeted by mamason and went to the room. This place was totally brand new, very nice. My massause name was Jenny. Body very nice, defintely works out alot, tan. First went to sauna were they have tv video playing over and over. Not good (waited too long, maybe to reduce actual time. Table shower was nice, good relaxing. Went back to room for a good average massage and for after, upsell wanted too much for very little. Maybe I'll try back later with a different girl maybe better luck.
Galaxyman12
10-12-11, 10:34
Tried calling 4 seasons yesterday morning. No answer. Called over to everyones favorite fruity place near tysons corner. Was told to come over by MMS. Met my provider Pink, fabulous gal. Great personality. Memorable TS and message. Worth ever penny spent.
G-man
You guys are killin me.
Sure thing, Tony! There is a new AMP in town. It is Benefactor's own Anal Massage Parlor in Falls Church. The facility is in my own backyard and after you pay mamasan the house fee, she straps you down to your very own cedar table and goes to get your masseuse Ben. I hear that Ben is fantastic at the anal massage and is sure to dilate your ringpiece to magnificent geometric shapes.
Seniors PM me for details.
Benefactor9
10-13-11, 00:01
I went to the see see today, and I bought a pre-owned g g.
Mechanical detailing on the body work, toothy piston strokes, but a fabulous overhaul.
It's good to know this garage still takes care of the old beaters. I'm still on three-quarters tank of gas.
As always, Seniors can PM me for details.
Yuengling69
10-13-11, 20:33
Sure thing, Tony! There is a new AMP in town. It is Benefactor's own Anal Massage Parlor in Falls Church. The facility is in my own backyard and after you pay mamasan the house fee, she straps you down to your very own cedar table and goes to get your masseuse Ben. I hear that Ben is fantastic at the anal massage and is sure to dilate your ringpiece to magnificent geometric shapes.
Seniors PM me for details.Now that's funny!
Went Thursday afternoon to the 7635 place in Falls Church whose name keeps on changing. I did not call. Went up and was surprised to find the door open. Mamasan said it was to get some fresh air, but it seemed fine inside. Met Bonnie. A petite lady. Table shower and massage were good. A bit of upsell, though clearly the menu is nowhere near what I was used to in the old days in DC. Overall a good experience, but I'm looking to explore options other than AMPs.
I decided to dip my toe in the county that loves to call out monger's names in the papers anytime they get caught up in a raid LOL. Place has been around for a while and is a block down from a mall. Think Civil War battles.
Anyway, Rose was my attendant. Nice TS, Nice massage, typical Nova experience while I munched on her and she "nursed" me. She is about late 30's, maybe around 40, about 5'4"/5'5", ok looking, body is ok, B cup (which she "nursed" me with).
Little head took over and I agreed to 100. I think 90 would had been beter. She gave me the full hour and gave a great massage so that is worth at least a 20. Then 70 for activities. Oh well.
Vetted senior can pm me for more info.
I have been seeing ads in BP for 4 seasons. Looks like they are back in business. I have not been by there since the early summer. Does anybody have any intel on them?
G-manI called a couple of time 2 weeks ago when their ads starting popping up on CL and no one picked up. Called again a few days ago, and same deal, phone rings until it goes to voice mail but I get no answer, yet they have been posting multiple ads daily on CL.
VAmongerman
10-16-11, 09:01
I have been laying low for a while, what with the economy and all, trying non-pros, backpage etc, but once in a while an AMP. And once in a while most recently was on Friday at one of my regular places, almost always a happy experience. Suzee from Houston, probably 40 with manmade but nice, pencils a bit stocky but a sweet woman. Her standout feature is that she really has nice hands. There is something about her hands that when she massages you know you are being massaged. I can't really explain it better, LOL. She was very good at her job. No upsell, a really nice time with a nice woman. Recommended. PMs ok from seniors.
Post Toastie
10-16-11, 12:14
May 2011: Midweek, midday GG standard massaji with chubby 4X KMP, nothing to write home about or even post much about here. Sort of okay, but not really worth the hour fee and the follow up, guess I am looking for more value for the spend. .8+.5 seems like a lot for the ho-hum time that it was. Am willing to try again, but want some updated intel before returning.
July 2011: OldBridge (not Tokyo) , .7 for 45 mins, half-hearted massaji from fairly trim 4X KMP, good enuf but required totally prepaid flip tip. I donated. 6 to see what would happen and was pleasantly treated and was out of there in 30 minutes, tops. NoVa plus some nice exploring.
Sept 2011: Stopped by MWC, and had not checked TFF in some time, so. Did not know they were lights out. Found Crystal Spa on Gallows, got excellent massaji with no other. And was quite happy with just that. Fair price, attendant looked nice and did not want more after the prior disappointment anyway.
Anyone out there willing to PM me FCCC or TCCC info, would be most grateful.
Again, sorry for delays.
May 2011: Midweek, midday GG standard massaji with chubby 4X KMP, nothing to write home about or even post much about here. Sort of okay, but not really worth the hour fee and the follow up, guess I am looking for more value for the spend. .8+.5 seems like a lot for the ho-hum time that it was. Am willing to try again, but want some updated intel before returning.
July 2011: OldBridge (not Tokyo) , .7 for 45 mins, half-hearted massaji from fairly trim 4X KMP, good enuf but required totally prepaid flip tip. I donated. 6 to see what would happen and was pleasantly treated and was out of there in 30 minutes, tops. NoVa plus some nice exploring.
Sept 2011: Stopped by MWC, and had not checked TFF in some time, so. Did not know they were lights out. Found Crystal Spa on Gallows, got excellent massaji with no other. And was quite happy with just that. Fair price, attendant looked nice and did not want more after the prior disappointment anyway.
Anyone out there willing to PM me FCCC or TCCC info, would be most grateful.
Again, sorry for delays.Holy cow guy. I am not trying to be a killjoy on reports, or a forum monitor, but this intel is months old. I understand any intel is good intel, but any info outside of a week or two is almost useless. unless it has to do with a specific incident. I know you can post your reports a little sooner than this. Also you have been activated on this forum for over a year and should know how to RTFF.
Be safe.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Stopped by Four Seasons today. Sign on door: "Sorry, we're closed."
I called a couple of time 2 weeks ago when their ads starting popping up on CL and no one picked up. Called again a few days ago, and same deal, phone rings until it goes to voice mail but I get no answer, yet they have been posting multiple ads daily on CL.
Post Toastie
10-16-11, 20:51
Propilot, sorry man. Did not mean to waste your (or anyone else's) time.
Holy cow guy. I am not trying to be a killjoy on reports, or a forum monitor, but this intel is months old. I understand any intel is good intel, but any info outside of a week or two is almost useless. Unless it has to do with a specific incident. I know you can post your reports a little sooner than this. Also you have been activated on this forum for over a year and should know how to RTFF.
Be safe.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Ok not sure with why 7635 has so many names, but whatever, I've been there before an decided to repeat. Gave MS a call about 10 minutes prior to arrival and she said come on down since they were not busy. Indeed, parking lot was virtually empty, and door wide open at the top of the stairs. A push of the bell and MS appeared, and then showed me to a room. A moment later and there's the knock as I am just getting down to my briefs, and in comes a lithe little thing, just my taste. Gave Miss. M a hug and pat on the behind, and gets me wrapped in a towel to make the walk to the TS. Given the single hall, I was glad to have come at a low moment. Miss. M did the pre-TS rituals and then proceeded with a very thorough scrub with some massage mixed in. So I am feeling pretty relaxed and then she starts with some attention that I really appreciate so when it's time for the flip, my flag is up which she pays very nice and gentle attention to. So far so good. Dry off time and back to the room, for the massage. Which I really needed as much as anything else. Starting with my neck, she was methodical hitting my shoulders, arms, hands, back, legs, feet, you name it. So while I miss the spots DC provided in the past, I have to admit I like the attention paid here to good body work before moving to lighter fare. Miss. M finished my back with hot towel rub down before moving to some gentle light touches then it was flip time followed by a little more massage of chest and arms before providing me a treat that was more than I was expecting and which left us both smiling. After clean up, I glance at my watch and I see it's an hour later, and I feel much better about the world. Would I repeat, yes, indeed I would.
Be nice, be safe & enjoy!
Went to a fruit shop on Sunday afternoon. Was quiet, greeted by MMS and got escorted to a room. Paid for 1 hour and picked pnk from a line-up of 5 girls. 2 others look nice as well. Pretty cute face in 30's. Nice ts and massage. Medium. Not so hard. Started the soft massage and we started to talk about the available menu. Is it only me or what? Looks like this fruit shop overcharges for standard menu. Of course I can't say no. Ended up with $ for a standard nova finish, nothing on her under dimmed light. Pretty nice personalities and accomodating. Great experience. Repeat? Probably will try others first.
Told me that she will be in NY until next Saturday.
Miketastic69
10-17-11, 13:24
Curiosity is killing me. Has anyone tried Peachy Goodness? Me thinks its the former massage condos on summertree court in Centreville. They do a lot of backpage advertising for services. They also have a lot of recruiting efforts out there. Anyone with info please help me rest my curiosity.
http://pennsylvania.pittsburghcitypaper.ws/AdultJobs/p-e-a-c-h-y-g-o-d-d-e-s-s-e-s-h-i-r-i-n-g-dc-w-o-m-e-n-o-w-n-e-d-25/8206925
http://peachygoddesses.weebly.com/rates.html
I think I found my own answer.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=216281&boardID=6&page=6
Haven't been to this place on Elden street for a while and decided to revisit. Don't think I mentioned it in the past, but it is in one of those office villages and on the 2nd floor, but has discrete stairs and parking to access the place from the back. No feeling of perp walk when you enter and exit.
Was there early afternoon and place was quiet and I think had only two girls present, thought I drew the better of the two, but neither is a jaw-dropper. Provider said she was new here and recently came from working in Manhattan / Jersey area. 40s probably, natural B, petite and medium built, not chunky by any means. English is pretty good and she is talkative and very playful throughout the TS and massage. Massage was hard but I needed it. A bit teasing, decent NoVa to NoVa+ level service. I was happy and tipped higher than standard on the way out.
Probably won't get on my ATF list but I can see myself repeating.
LOL. I think anyone who has been in this hobby for even a moderate amount of time can smell this one coming from a mile away. If it is too good to be true, it's either a ripoff or a trap, never actually true.
Curiosity is killing me. Has anyone tried Peachy Goodness? Me thinks its the former massage condos on summertree court in Centreville. They do a lot of backpage advertising for services. They also have a lot of recruiting efforts out there. Anyone with info please help me rest my curiosity.
http://pennsylvania.pittsburghcitypaper.ws/AdultJobs/p-e-a-c-h-y-g-o-d-d-e-s-s-e-s-h-i-r-i-n-g-dc-w-o-m-e-n-o-w-n-e-d-25/8206925
http://peachygoddesses.weebly.com/rates.html
I think I found my own answer.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=216281&boardID=6&page=6
Hollywood2
10-18-11, 14:24
I have been there several times up to about a month ago and was happy with the attitude and TS but nothing more than standard Nova Service. However the place is as you describe it. Decently discrete and you always feel comfortable in there.
Haven't been to this place on Elden street for a while and decided to revisit. Don't think I mentioned it in the past, but it is in one of those office villages and on the 2nd floor, but has discrete stairs and parking to access the place from the back. No feeling of perp walk when you enter and exit.
Was there early afternoon and place was quiet and I think had only two girls present, thought I drew the better of the two, but neither is a jaw-dropper. Provider said she was new here and recently came from working in Manhattan / Jersey area. 40s probably, natural B, petite and medium built, not chunky by any means. English is pretty good and she is talkative and very playful throughout the TS and massage. Massage was hard but I needed it. A bit teasing, decent NoVa to NoVa+ level service. I was happy and tipped higher than standard on the way out.
Probably won't get on my ATF list but I can see myself repeating.
After making an appointment on Saturday afternoon, I drove over to the office park. On Sundays, these places are vacant except for maybe one other hobbyist.
Three men were outside. One walking around on his phone, another setting in the passenger's seat with a bluetooth and a third at the end of the complex. I called and cancelled my appointment, gave them a heads up and left. A couple hours later I went back. It turned out there was not a bust; my only guess is it might have been a PI trailing someone's husband. About 5 years ago, I saw a similar situation with I assume a wife setting the car (he should have rotated AMPs a little more).
Keep a cautious eye.
Scorpion King
10-18-11, 21:57
She left after the incident.
Any one?
Galaxyman12
10-19-11, 01:16
Went to a fruit shop on Sunday afternoon. Was quiet, greeted by MMS and got escorted to a room. Paid for 1 hour and picked pnk from a line-up of 5 girls. 2 others look nice as well. Pretty cute face in 30's. Nice ts and massage. Medium. Not so hard. Started the soft massage and we started to talk about the available menu. Is it only me or what? Looks like this fruit shop overcharges for standard menu. Of course I can't say no. Ended up with $ for a standard nova finish, nothing on her under dimmed light. Pretty nice personalities and accomodating. Great experience. Repeat? Probably will try others first.
Told me that she will be in NY until next Saturday.Don't be offended when they try the up sell. It's cultural thing with all Asians. But again, there is no way I am tipping more than four jacksons for standard to standard + nova finish. You are just driving up the prices for all of us. I only go with 8 jacks in pocket to make sure little head does not take over.
G-man
Good tips. Will remember that.
Thanks
Don't be offended when they try the up sell. It's cultural thing with all Asians. But again, there is no way I am tipping more than four jacksons for standard to standard + nova finish. You are just driving up the prices for all of us. I only go with 8 jacks in pocket to make sure little head does not take over.
G-man
It is not so much a cultural thing but an economic this. Many upsell while others others just charge too much from the start (and others add on from base). This is more the occupation as opposed to culture.
In my opinion, they are mostly over compensated for what they provide us. This is true in all catagories (again my opinion) and it comes down to simple economics of supply and demand, As long as we do not demand better and we are willing to fork for services suppled, we get what we deserve.
Just like in a restaurant, I tip based on service and of course a cute flirtsy gets more that a dead fish.
Thanks for your time.
Don't be offended when they try the up sell. It's cultural thing with all Asians. But again, there is no way I am tipping more than four jacksons for standard to standard + nova finish. You are just driving up the prices for all of us. I only go with 8 jacks in pocket to make sure little head does not take over.
G-man
Bunker Buster
10-19-11, 15:19
Don't be offended when they try the up sell. It's cultural thing with all Asians. But again, there is no way I am tipping more than four jacksons for standard to standard + nova finish. You are just driving up the prices for all of us. I only go with 8 jacks in pocket to make sure little head does not take over.
G-manBefore giving up on the scene out of dissatisfaction with the lower quality and higher prices, I enjoyed the spas during the era of Golden, Kona, Downtown, Dragon, Royal. 1818, CPHC, Shogun and others. The upsell was very rare in that time.
In my experience with other Korean businesses, they don't charge to upcharge, overcharge or pull anything else on me. If anything, they try to bargain other people down when they are the buyers, but trying to squeeze more money out of people is not a typical Korean trait.
The aggressive upsell is a fairly recent import to the business, and one more reason I've been sticking to independent girls for the past 5 years.
Don't know if this belongs here, but I've been on the forum for a while and have had very limited opportunities to contribute. TOFTT and tried a new place that is advertising south of NOVA down around the 130 exit off 95. You'll be able to find it with very little problems if you are looking. In an office park with lots of empty lots after about 7pm. Saw Coco, was lead into a clean private room and told her I was interested in 30 minutes for 0. 5 (60 and 90 are also available). Told to disrobe, she came back a few minutes later. No TS offered. Not sure if they have one. But got a good warm oil massage with lots of playing (draped to start, she removed it and asked if I was ok with that) , then on the flip got what I hoped for (std NOVA) without any verbals exchanged. Tipped 0. 2 (was truly all I had at the time) , she was appreciative and absolutely no attitude at it being too low. Pretty much a bargain for total damages of 0. 7. Some above and under clothes roaming allowed, but since it was my first time here, I didn't press the issue and just wanted to let it go and see what developed. Provider was probably mid-40s and very slender, dressed plainly with form-fitting exercise pants and a blouse which didn't come off. I am almost reluctant to share this review since a few years back (2003/2004) , this area had a couple places that were very publicly busted and its been dead since then. Kinda hoping they stay under the radar, but certainly an alternative for the DC commuter crowd from down south. Haven't seen any reviews of them yet. Totally met my expectations for the limited service I was seeking, and I'd definitely repeat.
Have fun!
Before giving up on the scene out of dissatisfaction with the lower quality and higher prices, I enjoyed the spas during the era of Golden, Kona, Downtown, Dragon, Royal. 1818, CPHC, Shogun and others. The upsell was very rare in that time.
In my experience with other Korean businesses, they don't charge to upcharge, overcharge or pull anything else on me. If anything, they try to bargain other people down when they are the buyers, but trying to squeeze more money out of people is not a typical Korean trait.
The aggressive upsell is a fairly recent import to the business, and one more reason I've been sticking to independent girls for the past 5 years.CPHC was a favorite, along with Sun, and few experiences since to top them (outside of Bangkok) ; Kim's in Annandale provided a number of us some very good times. At the AMPs, there are generally 3 types of (Korean speaking) providers. Korean, Chinese Korean (includes N Korean) and Chinese. In general, different services and sells approach, plus personalities and expectations; I have not seen any Japanese for a number of years now or run into any Southeast Asians at the AMPs.
AKFourtySeven
10-20-11, 07:35
That was just a HJ place. Not to be compared with HWC or the dc places. Anyone know why Kim's went out of business?
Made an appt with Miki for 1 hr, very strong massage, incl. Back walking. Located in office park, upstairs but not a lot of traffic. Unable to tell if there was anyone else there besides the two of us. Very straightforward service as mentioned elsewhere throughout this thread. Left tip on table and she only glanced at it on the way out. I got the shoe tying thing too, which I was not expecting and seemed a bit awkward. Very friendly, although not much dialogue. .8+.6. May consider returning.
Seniors may PM for more details.
Kim's has not gone out of business. It is now called
Orient Therapy
5532 Hempstead Way#G
Springfield, VA 22151
703-256-2247.
At Spahunters, Nova. Backpage, etc.
It is also called "Mykonos Salon Health" at Rubmaps.
That was just a HJ place. Not to be compared with HWC or the dc places. Anyone know why Kim's went out of business?
The Kim's a few of us remember (2001-2003) , was towards the end of Columbia Pike near the Giant Store in Annandale, by Jerry's. They were busted a few times, and the extras were well beyond a HJ. A few of you remember Happy from a year or so ago; she started as Coco at Kim's before she went to TK Therapy (different name now). The owners can shift locations and names, but the freedoms, times and specific providers are what made it a popular AMP.
Does anyone remember Pink's "Fire and Ice" BBBJ? She worked at Sun, across from the MCI Center at the time in DC, along with a couple other good providers. In the past, several providers made extra services an art, and something unique.
Kim's has not gone out of business. It is now called
Orient Therapy
5532 Hempstead Way#G
Springfield, VA 22151
703-256-2247.
At Spahunters, Nova. Backpage, etc.
It is also called "Mykonos Salon Health" at Rubmaps.
Ted Williams
10-21-11, 08:53
I went to be a VIP in herndon just a few weeks ago. I met a late 30s lady, I think she said gg was her name. Anyway, the look is average, the massage was decent (some backwalking) , finish was standard. However, MAJOR upsell. $1 was the expected for standard and a big turn off. I won't return as this was not worth it and maybe you can save some time and money, too.
Good Day
AKFourtySeven
10-21-11, 10:19
Yup same place I referred to in other post. I never got much more than a HJ. Other services were not available. Kim's went out of biz in '06. I've never got anything other than a HJ at Orient either. I haven't been there for a few years.
Does anyone remember Pink's "Fire and Ice" BBBJ? She worked at Sun, across from the MCI Center at the time in DC, along with a couple other good providers. In the past, several providers made extra services an art, and something unique.Sun was my favorite AMP and I have a lot of good memories of that place. I did once get something resembling fire and ice, though it was a covered BJ, where the provider alternated cooling and heating her mouth with what I presume was cold and hot water. It was a pretty good experience. Unfortunately that wonderful experience was ruined by a rush job which followed, and I never had a repeat experience with the lady since she seemed to graduate to reception and table shower duties. She later once gave me a table shower in the nude, but called another provider.
It has been a while and I've forgotten the names of the providers.
Alot of customers mid-afternoon on Friday. MMS asked me to come back in a half an hour and when I did was promptly visited by a nice young, skinny girl who I think was called Momo. Cute, probably late 20s. Decent TS. Not quite as good as I've had but nice and playful attitude with good attention to the man parts which I was gratified to have since this was a new stop for me. I don't like any suspense about whether the ending will be appropriately pleasing.
Hard massage was also decent. Again not the best, but not disappointing. After flip discussion of tip and the. 6 I offered was insufficient for anything but fully garbed NOVA but after a bit she decided to expose the nice perky As. Nothing special about the NOVA but there is something to be said for said act being performed by a lithe hottie.
No complaints. Not enough to have me end my search for the perfect experience, but would happily repeat when in that vicinity.
Miketastic69
10-22-11, 10:55
Went to one of my fave spots not too far from Dulles Expo Center in an office park. Quiet morning, I may have been one of the first clients if the day. Entire session was awkward and strange. Clinical shower with no play and not thorough. Not even a grazing.
In the room very clinical and overly-draped. Roaming discouraged to the point where I was asked to halt. I ended the session and left. When I left there was a guy taking pictures outside."I did not approach him or pay it any mind, but he approached me stating he's taking real estate photos and didn't mean to get me in the shot." promised to delete any of me and my car.
I have driven back by there every day this week. Have not gone inside but Ansel Adams is still there today and every day. He's actually waved at me this morning.
Caution is all I can recommend.
He approached me stating he's taking real estate photos and didn't mean to get me in the shot." promised to delete any of me and my car.
I have driven back by there every day this week. Have not gone inside but Ansel Adams is still there today and every day. He's actually waved at me this morning.
Caution is all I can recommend.That's definitely an understatement.
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AKFourtySeven
10-23-11, 18:26
He sounds suspicious. I could understand one day to take pics for ad copy but all week? Sounds like he got a pic of you when you were leaving.
The Kim's a few of us remember (2001-2003) , was towards the end of Columbia Pike near the Giant Store in Annandale, by Jerry's. They were busted a few times, and the extras were well beyond a HJ. A few of you remember Happy from a year or so ago; she started as Coco at Kim's before she went to TK Therapy (different name now). The owners can shift locations and names, but the freedoms, times and specific providers are what made it a popular AMP.
Does anyone remember Pink's "Fire and Ice" BBBJ? She worked at Sun, across from the MCI Center at the time in DC, along with a couple other good providers. In the past, several providers made extra services an art, and something unique.Hey Ready,
Let's not forget the B-B TS, those were the days!
Check your mail!
MnV
Miketastic69
10-24-11, 09:17
He sounds suspicious. I could understand one day to take pics for ad copy but all week? Sounds like he got a pic of you when you were leaving.Trying not to stress about it too much. May just be a PI trying to catch a husband or something like that. Weird as hell. I won't be going back.
So, I haven't done this, but if you decline her upsell and start to get dressed, she isn't getting ANY TIP, so then she starts to back off her demands? Or does the little brain take over all logical thought processes at that point.
I went to be a VIP in herndon just a few weeks ago. I met a late 30s lady, I think she said gg was her name. Anyway, the look is average, the massage was decent (some backwalking) , finish was standard. However, MAJOR upsell. $1 was the expected for standard and a big turn off. I won't return as this was not worth it and maybe you can save some time and money, too.
Good Day
So, I haven't done this, but if you decline her upsell and start to get dressed, she isn't getting ANY TIP, so then she starts to back off her demands? Or does the little brain take over all logical thought processes at that point.A major upsell, I just tell them to finish with the massage and if the TS & Massage were very good. Leave a decent tip if they don't cut it short and I indicate to the provider politely that I won't be return; a couple have given me recommendations. Then I head off to one of my ATFs and kick myself for not originally going there.
Galaxyman12
10-25-11, 00:10
I went to be a VIP in herndon just a few weeks ago. I met a late 30s lady, I think she said gg was her name. Anyway, the look is average, the massage was decent (some backwalking) , finish was standard. However, MAJOR upsell. $1 was the expected for standard and a big turn off. I won't return as this was not worth it and maybe you can save some time and money, too.
Good DayLooks like I'll have to cross VIP off my list wish list. No way I am paying $1 for a Nova. Lt would be nice to see some Latino mps in the area for a little variety.
G-man
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Kevin
Hello, All. New member here.
I've been visiting a few AMPs for I guess more than a year now, but just found this site. So if I seem like a 'newbie' to the whole thing, my apologies. (And I apologize now for such a long post.) My main point and some questions I have will be near the end; please bear with me.
I had heard about some things that went on at these places, but I wanted to find out for myself. So after looking online for places, my first visit last year was to Blue Ocean on Rolling Road (since renamed Green Garden, now looks like it's gone). I don't really remember what the honey (for lack of a better term) looked like, but I do recall that she wasn't bad looking; decent body and all that. I took the offer of a TS (I paid for an hour, which I've done every time) , not knowing that it was actually on a table and would be. Assisted. When I stood up and she started scrubbing with a washcloth, she worked down to my. Man parts and hesitated, glancing up at me (she was on her knees by then) to see if it was okay to wash there. I briefly nodded, still not really knowing what to expect. She did a cursory scrub and then rinsed me off.
We went back to the room, where I got a decent massage; but since I didn't know the protocol, if any, for asking about extras, I got none. As I was getting dressed, though, I did say something about 'extra things for extra money' (hey, it was my first visit ever) , but she acted like she didn't know what I meant. I didn't push it, and left, only somewhat satisfied.
I checked some ads on CL and BP, looking for other places in the area. My second visit (I don't recall which one it was or how much longer after visiting Blue Ocean) yielded the results I had hoped for: After she was done with my back, she asked me to turn over, and then asked if I wanted anything else massaged. I kind of said I wasn't sure, acting like I was the innocent one this time. She lightly rubbed me, then took one of my hands, put it on the back of her other one, and put it on me (I'm sure this is nothing to many of you reading this, but it was the first time for me). She proceeded with the H. E. ; and as I was getting dressed, in her broken English she said, basically, 'I make you happy, you make me happy. ' So I gave her whatever extra I had (I don't think it was much) , and went on my way. That was pretty much the ending scenario for most of my visits to places.
Well, after that I was hooked. I'the go every month or two to various places, always getting the hour (but not getting the shower; I learned quckly that that took away from the hour) , with varying degrees of success. Most of the time it was. Fun, including a couple of return visits to Blue Ocean / Green Garden (I guess the honey at my first visit didn't know or didn't want to). Once at a place in Tyson's I talked the honey (both with words and other persuasion) into a state of undress, and we ended up on the table with me on top of her. She wouldn't let it get as far as FS (I didn't really expect that, though) , but I think we both enjoyed ourselves. And only occasionally I've asked if I could touch, and those times have been fun too.
There was one place (again, I don't remember where) that only gave me a massage, with no hint of anything more, and the honey had kind of an attitude the whole time. Needless to say I didn't go back there. On occasion I've rang the bell at a place, only to be told they're too busy and to come back. I've just waited for another day. And once in a while I've answered a CL or BP ad for an independent massage, but they've never been that great; a quick massage followed by an H. E, and too $$ for what it was.
Earlier this year, I visited the place down Backlick off Old Keene Mill. It was a return visit; earlier ones had been good. When I first laid down on the table, the honey did sort of a quick scrub across my back and legs with a hot towel; and in the process she ran it up my rear, making sure to quickly swipe my back door. I was taken by surprise; that had never happened before. I asked her why she did that, and she kind of laughed and said, 'I don't know. ' Well, I found out why before I even flipped: When she was done with the main massage, in which she would lightly and quickly run fingers between my legs up at the top, she again lightly ran her fingers across the back of my legs, across my butt, and up between again, but lingering a little more each time. Finally she started lightly caressing me, which was a big turn on. And before I knew it, I didn't even need to turn over. I must say I enjoyed it that way. Afterwards I said, 'I expected to be on my back, ' at which she again just laughed a little. I had a very similar experience (quick swipe at the start, etc.) about a week or so later at the place in the back of the building just before 495 on OKM, between the gas station and the adult store. The Backlick spot told me they were busy that day, which turned out to be kind of fortuitous, since I went up the street and had a good time again. This time I did flip, but it was pretty great anyway.
Fast forward to last week: I hadn't visited any places for several months, so I stopped by the place on Backlick. But this visit turned out to be a disappointment. It wasn't until I'the paid for the hour that I noticed that infamous sign: 'Please don't ask. This is a massage only establishment. ' etc. Etc. It had not been there the last time I had gone, and I hoped it was just there for show. I obeyed and said nothing the whole time, but it was a massage and only a massage. I tried again a couple days later (I really wanted an H. E!) at another spot in the OKM / Rolling Road vicinity (I had been there once before but couldn't remember how it turned out) , but it had some of the honeys' licenses on the wall in the small lobby, as well as poster diagrams of the human nervous system. I took the chance and paid for an hour, but it was the same result. It looks like that one is only an honest-to-goodness massage therapy place.
(I promise I'm getting to my point!)
The other day I checked ads on CL and BP, looking for other places, and I stumbled on this site. I read a few posts (hopefully someone can answer some questions for me about abbreviations and such) , and some mentioned the good TS's they'the had. That spurred me to go back to Green Garden, my first ever place, and make sure to get a shower, and see what would happen. But when I parked, I could see some guy painting or something just inside the door, so that's how I knew it was closed. And then I realized that I hadn't seen any ads for them anyway. Well, I tried a couple other places I had been before. I actually tried Orient Therapy, where I was told there were 'busy', and another had that damned sign in the room that hadn't been there before. Since I was already in the room, I did the fake cellphone call to get out of it (I hadn't paid yet). And yet another, near CostCo in Newington, just had a sign on the door saying 'We busy Don't ring bell'. Sheesh. So I gave up.
So finally, my main question is this: With these places putting up the signs, and others (sign or not) only doing massages and nothing else, are they just cracking down so they don't get in trouble? Has anyone else had similar experiences lately, mainly in the Fairfax / Springfield / Alex areas? Years ago, before I began frequenting the AMPs, I'the read once in a while about a place getting busted for something or other. But then when I started going, it seemed like the heat had passed, since I was having the experiences I was looking for. So, will this pass too? Or is it the beginning of the end? Or are the ones that were busy really popular (granted, I was there during the day when they're more likely to be busy) because they haven't changed?
Also, I mentioned I had questions about some of the lingo people here have used (again, not to sound like a newbie, but I only found this site the other day) : What is NOVA when talking about the flip? And what's with the decimal and the number in combination with the dollar sign? Sorry to sound like an idiot, but I just was wondering. Of course, if anyone would prefer to PM me to answer my questions, that would be fine (and very helpful).
Thanks, everyone, for reading through my War & Peace of a post (hehe) , and thanks in advance for help & info.
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