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Visiting next week. Any advice for a new visitor? Looking for a MP or reasonably priced lady. PM me. Thanks.
Ted Williams
03-04-11, 12:19
So I got the Best massage to lift my hope backup. I went first thing in the morning and the door was open to the area, I guess for cleaning. Anyway, I was really hoping to draw sunni (sue-knee) from all the hype, but MMS greats me and says she has a real nice lady to take care of me instead. I play along nice and I get a mid40s, shorter, very petite, smoker (cigs) lady. English isn't very good, but the service was flirty. I was pleasantly surprised by the TS, I noticed that things changed too since the last time I was there a few years ago. She made sure to get all the sensitive areas clean and standing attention. Dry off and into room for a medium-hard massage, little bit of backwalk, hot towel, and soft touch to flip with nice roaming. Very nice finish and no haggling for ending. Will do the best again.
Good Day
Phaik Naim
03-04-11, 17:20
Anyone know if it really is "new management" or if that is just advertising? If it is new, any significant change in service level from their previous incarnation?
Bunker Buster
03-04-11, 17:32
The mother and daughter team are gone, and there are now three 40-50 Chinese ladies working there. The place has been redecorated, and is nicer than before.
Great massage and good value, but it still seems to be legit only.
Trapatanga
03-04-11, 23:04
I visited one of the mentioned AMP in N. VA, Location was great, parking in a discrete area, even when you walk into the building no one will know which business your visiting. Received a worm welcome, paid the house and was showed to a room. In walk "Rushi" am an ass and tit man but the regular spots have been too dry so I had to make do with Rushi. Very good massage by the way. After the routine massage I turned over, the sight of mini me suddenly changed the evenings topic. All attention went to him she was just excited, a lot of hand play and a few kisses (on mini me) and blow. She said there menu was only finger food and no full meals like I hoped for. In all service was almost perfect, wouldn't mind a re visit.
Visiting next week. Any advice for a new visitor? Looking for a MP or reasonably priced lady. PM me. Thanks.Hit Tyco Road off of Spring Hill Road. Back of strip shops (behind Orient Spa) , at least three right there, GGG is one. But they're all next to each other.
8300 Old COurthouse. 140b I think. Get Candi.
Hit Tyco Road off of Spring Hill Road. Back of strip shops (behind Orient Spa) , at least three right there, GGG is one. But they're all next to each other.
8300 Old COurthouse. 140b I think. Get Candi.There's one listed off Gallows Road near the little post office and animal hospital that I don't think has been reviewed yet. Looks like it's pretty new.
Might TOFTT next week and see what's up.
Computer Luvvv
03-06-11, 14:43
Hit this place today, scored CoCo, she asked me who I had seen before, I gave her the names, all of the names I gave her are GONE (she told me, the menu that they served is no longer and option) , so for the previous reviews I gave, its null and void now. She (coco) is a hot little number, showed me her hair lazer removal on her leggs and private areas, but as I mentioned, the menu is Standard NOVA. She's a cutie, late 20s, cute face, nice leggs. Cute feet. Sorry fellas, I guess mama heard me doing bizzness and fired those other girls, ooops.
Computer Luvvv
03-06-11, 14:45
There's one listed off Gallows Road near the little post office and animal hospital that I don't think has been reviewed yet. Looks like it's pretty new.
Might TOFTT next week and see what's up.A friend of mine went there back in uuuumm NOv or DEc, he said that the girl opened the menu up without him asking but I think that was a hit / miss thing because I don't see it anywhere on any other boards as for the OPEN MENU.
Computer Luvvv
03-06-11, 15:14
Not sure what's up with this place, but it seems as though they have a high turnover rate among the staff. Could be that they're staffing the place with "temps" down from NYC and Phily for a couple weeks, or perhaps the place just can't keep therapists very long. Can't figure it. In any case, on the four visits I've made, the ladies have all been pleasant and capable. I decided to keep it on my list for a post-gym cool-down spot. For more entertaining activities, DC is still the best place.Girl told me straight up, not anymore more, no more, those girls are gone, but she (Coco) was a nice little spinner with pretty feet and cute face, if she had gotten more comfy I would have tipped her more, I think a new MMS is there too
I am also looking for Yoyo (after having thought I found her)
Rooster454
03-07-11, 00:52
I went to see how MWC was on Saturday night after the gym. Drew a very cute young girl, late 20's maybe. Taken to room, paid house fee and said she'd be right back. I was nervous as to what to expect since they just re-opened and was quickly reassured as the girl walked in while I was undressing and grabbed my manhood and said very nice with a big smile on her face. TS was very thorough all over but especially on the sensitive areas. Massage was best I've had recently, I don't think there is a spot she didn't work on. The flip was awesome and finish was very nice. I started to get up after and she said "no I'm not done" and continued to massage the front of me, which I think is nice since most girls skip that after the finish. Roaming was allowed and we both had a good time.
TS- 9.
Massage- 10.
Finish- 7 or 8.
Personality- 8.
Wish I could remember her name, but for the life of me I can not. I will return soon and hope MMS remembers me so I can get the same girl.
The mother and daughter team are gone, and there are now three 40-50 Chinese ladies working there. The place has been redecorated, and is nicer than before..Dollar used to have a lady called Bobo. I really liked her massage style and would visit her once a week. But, she left right before the mother and daughter team took over. I heard that she is still around, but never met her again. Anyone has her info?
Hit this place today, scored CoCo, she asked me who I had seen before, I gave her the names, all of the names I gave her are GONE (she told me, the menu that they served is no longer and option) , so for the previous reviews I gave, its null and void now. She (coco) is a hot little number, showed me her hair lazer removal on her leggs and private areas, but as I mentioned, the menu is Standard NOVA. She's a cutie, late 20s, cute face, nice leggs. Cute feet. Sorry fellas, I guess mama heard me doing bizzness and fired those other girls, ooops.I had gotten the full menu, but had the sense not to broadcast it. Thanks for the reminder not to announce the other places I've found it.
AKFourtySeven
03-07-11, 09:49
Which one is Dollar. 2110 Gallows. Upstairs?
Rosie 1972
03-07-11, 11:40
Went to the river a few weeks ago. Not the worst, not the best, Just the typical.
Girl was not fat, but muffin top was noticable. Her attitude was ok but did warm up to where she was fun to talk to.
Massage was pretty good. Firm, hard 7-8/10. Back walk was available, although not requested by me.
If you want the typical, this place is as good as any. If you want something out of the norm, like I am looking for try another. Sorry, I am just so tired of the typical AMP, and DC is too far for me.
Rosie 1972
03-07-11, 11:45
Moved out very east. It wasn't the easiest place to find where it's located in the back, not the front as I almost went into a physical therapy place. I wanted the standard hour and led to room. She was an early 40s short, pudgy, ok looks lady. The TS was ok not much cleaning in the sensitive areas. Massage was harder, almost too hard, and went to flip. Everything was ok to this point, then things sour. She asks me if I am going to take care of her and starts to haggle. This is where my tent became a blanket and I wasn't going to pay extra for a standard NOVA finish. I guess she was asking because she says others didn't tip well before me or something to that effect. I left disappointed after reading that others had some positive things to say about the far place. I'm figuring that the good spirits and ladies have left since. I won't waste my time here again.
YMMV?
Good DayI couldn't agree with you more. I am staying away from here for a while, if I ever return. Due to this I recently tried a few other places and although they were better, I just haven't found that ATF place yet.
Bunker Buster
03-07-11, 16:20
Which one is Dollar. 2110 Gallows. Upstairs?2304, next to the post office.
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/chinese-bodywork-reflexology-for-relaxation/3605565
I knocked at Apple
But no one heeded,
Then went to BK.
And got what I needed.
After rapping at the door a few times at Apple, I finally called the number from the website. Mama said that they were closed this week because of licensing problems, but assured me they would be open next week.
What to do?
Since BKY is just down the street I dropped in there for the first time. My therapist was pretty good looking, maybe around 30 years with nothing sagging. Penny (?) gave a pretty good AMP massage with lots of hot towels. Nearing the end of the session she gave me a brief price list but I just went for the standard fare. I'm not really a fan of upselling but I may go back and see if there is less pressure as they get to know me. Otherwise, it was above average for NOVA because the massage really was quite good, but the sensual aspect needs a bit of developing. Penny is attractive but she'll need to be more attentive at the finish if she wants my return business. Yak
Ted Williams
03-07-11, 22:47
Ok, so I am noticing there are a ton of name changes going on all over and new management I am having a hard time keeping things straight. Anyhow, I crossed over the county line to aroma. Ok, sorry correction sun star. I did read a recent report that the spotlight was shining, but wanted to see how things were on this side of the fence. First, things look about the same. Went in rang bell greeted by MMS with apron and we do usual hour and start massage right away with no TS. Lady is mid to late 40s average looks nothing to get excited about here. Massage was fine, but I was looking forward to finish after long day. Well, no roaming was allowed and was met with repeated we aren't doing that here stuff. After the flip I did receive some massage, but missed the most important area that need the most attention. I guess that they are being cautious and not having any standard here for now.
I also agree with Dr Bombay comment about broadcasting a full time. Right across the street from here used to be a really nice place AO or natural on Glenn Dr, but of course the wrong folks got wind of that and now RIP with lots of the others on this side of the fence.
Good Day
Member #4913
03-08-11, 11:27
Hello Mongers,
I'm taking a trip this weekend from central VA to Delmarva. I will be going through DC, MD & DE. I'm looking for the best AMP to visit along my way. I've been reading post in this area and it seems like it's slim pickings. Not what I remember from years ago.
Any way here's what I'm looking for.
1. Good looking / mid 20's.
2. It would be nice to choose the girl.
3. A place where I won't get my pic taken by my uncle on the way out.
4. Good TS.
5. Standard Nova finish, maybe CBJ.
6. The option for msog.
7. No clock watchers.
I prefer pm's from other sm's.
Thanks all,
I will give feed back in a pm.
BigFredDude
03-08-11, 21:42
Went to Herndon Therapy last night. Burst my table shower cherry there. Great experience. Had a mid-30s therapist who paid plenty of attention to all of the bits. Went back to the room and received a very thorough deeper massage. On the flip, experienced a good deal of pleasant touches, leading to what I understand to be a standard NOVA finish. Paid the $80 house fee and gave a 50% tip. She was disappointed and begged for more. When I declined, she pouted. So, was I off the mark for NOVA?
BigFredDude
03-08-11, 21:59
Has anybody had a recent experience with Le' Blanc Spa in Centreville? They're advertising Nuru massage and I think it would be quite an experience.
Went to Herndon Therapy last night. Burst my table shower cherry there. Great experience. Had a mid-30s therapist who paid plenty of attention to all of the bits. Went back to the room and received a very thorough deeper massage. On the flip, experienced a good deal of pleasant touches, leading to what I understand to be a standard NOVA finish. Paid the $80 house fee and gave a 50% tip. She was disappointed and begged for more. When I declined, she pouted. So, was I off the mark for NOVA?While others may have some things to add, the amount you gave was appropriate for standard NoVA. If you see an ATF are trying to cultivate an expanded menu you might consider more, but otherwise the tip was correct.
Has anybody had a recent experience with Le' Blanc Spa in Centreville? They're advertising Nuru massage and I think it would be quite an experience.I did a search of their phone number and it set off my internal radar. Multiple listings including Southern Maryland offering a wide array of services including escort, tantra, et cetera. Plus so clearly stating Nuru. I may be wrong but this makes me think it could be someone casting a wide net, either for bait and switch or perhaps even Seinfeld's uncle.
Went to Herndon Therapy last night. Burst my table shower cherry there. Great experience. Had a mid-30s therapist who paid plenty of attention to all of the bits. Went back to the room and received a very thorough deeper massage. On the flip, experienced a good deal of pleasant touches, leading to what I understand to be a standard NOVA finish. Paid the $80 house fee and gave a 50% tip. She was disappointed and begged for more. When I declined, she pouted. So, was I off the mark for NOVA?Basically, .40 is the bottom, like no HJ at all, or just a simple HJ. If the TS was that good, and you're going back, .60 is the number.
Ok, so I am noticing there are a ton of name changes going on all over and new management I am having a hard time keeping things straight. Anyhow, I crossed over the county line to aroma. Ok, sorry correction sun star. I did read a recent report that the spotlight was shining, but wanted to see how things were on this side of the fence. First, things look about the same. Went in rang bell greeted by MMS with apron and we do usual hour and start massage right away with no TS. Lady is mid to late 40s average looks nothing to get excited about here. Massage was fine, but I was looking forward to finish after long day. Well, no roaming was allowed and was met with repeated we aren't doing that here stuff. After the flip I did receive some massage, but missed the most important area that need the most attention. I guess that they are being cautious and not having any standard here for now.
I also agree with Dr Bombay comment about broadcasting a full time. Right across the street from here used to be a really nice place AO or natural on Glenn Dr, but of course the wrong folks got wind of that and now RIP with lots of the others on this side of the fence.
Good DayI stopped by as well, because Cherry used to work there, and she gave a great massage, and normal NOVA finish. But the woman looked worn out, in 40's, and I turned around.
Went to the river a few weeks ago. Not the worst, not the best, Just the typical.
Girl was not fat, but muffin top was noticable. Her attitude was ok but did warm up to where she was fun to talk to.
Massage was pretty good. Firm, hard 7-8/10. Back walk was available, although not requested by me.
If you want the typical, this place is as good as any. If you want something out of the norm, like I am looking for try another. Sorry, I am just so tired of the typical AMP, and DC is too far for me. The girls are Chinese, not Korean. Not saying anything, but when they first flipped to River I stopped in, and the C-girl scammed me for a fakish BJ. $ and she pulled out a piece of plastic-like paper sheet and put it over Peter and went at it. Just wierd. Left. 8 + $ light.
The girls are Chinese, not Korean. Not saying anything, but when they first flipped to River I stopped in, and the C-girl scammed me for a fakish BJ. $ and she pulled out a piece of plastic-like paper sheet and put it over Peter and went at it. Just wierd. Left. 8 + $ light.I had a chunky woman a few weeks back. Don't remember her name. First said she didn't do a BJ. Then when I said the tip would be better, she asked if I had a cover. When I said no she left the room and returned with a sheet of plastic wrap. She had a really lame technique. No pressure or enthusiasm. Plus she would stop every 20-30 seconds to re-adjust the wrap. BORING. So she did that for a couple minutes and then went to an HJ. I told her to go back to the BJ or the tip would not be the same. So she went back to BJ for about a minute and stopped. Again, I told her the tip would not be the same. She finally said,"I really don't care!" I always find it amusing when the talent breaks character and the real person comes out.
I decided to go white water rafting in Centreville. I called ahead of time to make an appointment. I am starting to realized after a couple of other experiences that appointments are kept about 50% of time (or less). If they are busy they just take the customer that is there even if it is five minutes before you are suppose to get there. When I showed up today I get a "Oh, I thought you said (insert time here) O'clock." Nice try honey, no cigar. So I decide to wait in the room for 25-30 minutes for my go to Y#M*. During this time the doorbell and phone is ringing off the hook. So, I finally get my session and the TS was standard, nothing special. Massage starts and seemed normal. But after about 5 minutes she goes into the sensual nail dragging. I am thinking to myself "She can't be done with the massage already?" Was really surprised since I have been seeing Y#M* since Holiday and ALWAYS had good service. So, I do a little nursing on the big naturals. I will say at least they never disappoint. I am asked what I am looking for. So I go with a BJ, which from my experience I know will be a BBJ. Was decent, but then goes into a HJ. I have to tell her to go back to the BJ. Which she does. And when she feels me "swelling" she went to an HJ at the very end. Then of course comes the time where she knows a tip is about to happen. So she begins to apologize in a half-ass way that "Next time she will take care of me better." So, I give her a tip in between her ladies. Of course right away she pulls out to count."Oh, no honey I need more. I did a BBJ." That is when I told her "I paid for one hour and your mamasan decided she would only give me 25-30 minutes. That is not how you do good business." So with out even missing a beat I said "Next time I will take care of you better!" She gave me a couple playful slaps (a couple on the face and one on the shoulder) , but you know she was pissed. So she walks me out in total silence. As I get to the door, I turned to her and told her "Tell you manager, that she doesn't do this kind of service to a good customer." I just got a half ass "Bye." Seems like even with new management the old water way is going back to some old techniques they used on me a couple years ago. We as a whole need to send a message to these places. If you screw me, I am going to screw you. They will get the message. In my experience these are the four top problems I have run into:
1) Not keeping your appointment.
2) The old bait and switch, even when you made appointment with specific person.
3) Paying for an hour and getting 20-30minutes.
4) Faux BJ's or promise of FS, but then backpeddling during session.
Don't support places that give poor service. In these times, if you hit them in the pocket book, they WILL get the message. I for one won't be doing any rafting anytime soon.
Be safe out there,
Lovejugs
Roamin Roman
03-09-11, 00:44
Hello, Mongers,
I'm taking a trip this weekend from central VA to Delmarva. I will be going through DC, MD & DE. I'm looking for the best AMP to visit Along my way. Along my way. I've been reading post in this area and it seems like it's slim pickings. Not what I remember from years ago.
Any way here's what I'm looking for.
1. Good looking / mid 20's.
2. It would be nice to choose the girl.
3. A place where I won't get my pic taken by my uncle on the way out.
4. Good TS.
5. Standard Nova finish, maybe CBJ.
6. The option for msog.
7. No clock watchers.
I prefer pm's from other sm's.
Thanks all,
I will give feed back in a pm.Hmmm. Maybe I'm getting cranky and grubby in my old age, but of the 45 posts that got you to Senior Level about 80% seem to be requests like this or "me too" type responses to another monger's post. Not a whole lot of substantive Intel seems to flow out of your keyboard and into the forums. Yet, you've asked for our best Recommendation and, in addition, put seven pre-conditions on that intel, as well.
I'm not averse to sharing information, especially with "other sm's," but I have to have reason to believe that the request comes from one who has been generous with his own info. Perhaps you have, via PMs, but that should not displace the info you ought to share in the open forum.
Not sure how my fellow NoVa and DC area mongers feel, but if this were a committee reviewing a loan application, I'd have to vote against your application on the basis that your credit hasn't been fully established yet. We have plenty of recommendations to "lend" but can only spread them so far. (Hmmm. Maybe that's not quite the way to phrase that.)
Recommendation: Try one or more of the NoVa AMPs while you are here, and report back on them. There are a number of AMPs and therapists that, in spite of our best efforts, still need reviewing. It's just that in these harder economic times, we don't have as much "mongering around" cash as we once did. Maintain the necessary discreetness to protect the therapists. Then, on a return visit perhaps your request for "our best AMPs" will get a hearty endorsement. Until then, this member of the NoVa AMP Recommendations Committee will have to defer. Not decline, just defer For the time being.
R:R
Roamin Roman
03-09-11, 01:23
Since my fellow forum members might be wondering why I'm posting a review of a Baltimore AMP on the NoVa boards, the reason is simple: Some of you occasionally have business or personal reasons that take you beyond the NoVa region. Whether it's for a day's journey or a longer period, the requirements for a good local AMP to visit while traveling still exists. So, in that spirit, here is my finding on a Charm City establishment, one that's been there for a while.
FACILITY
Location: 9 (a single-family house about 3 minutes from I-695, Exit 30B)
Convenience: 9. 5 (parking available on street or in back of facility)
Safety: 9 (estimated. Visit was in daytime, but neighborhood appeareded safe)
Cleanliness: 7. 5 (fairly tidy, nothing trashy and no aromas of smoke or food)
Privacy: 10 (separate rooms with doors)
TS: 0 (none visible or offered. Standup shower might have been available, if I had asked)
Massage Table: 9 (clean sheets, new-ish equipment)
THERAPIST
FBAS: 7. 5/7. 5/8. 0/8. 0.
Description: 5'-5".120 lbs. 45-50 ish. 34C, long straight black hair, Chinese.
Communication: 7 (English good enough)
Skill: 7. 5 to 8 (massage was ample, ending as desired)
Overall, the experience did not disappoint. If I were to visit or transit the area again any time soon, this place would be on my short list. Would I drive the distance from NoVa simply to visit this AMP? Probably not, but that's mostly because of the distance and time involved. Including paying the toll if going via the tunnel. However, the. 6 house fee and the services-rendered rate were not out of bounds.
Hmmm. Maybe I'm getting cranky and grubby in my old age, but of the 45 posts that got you to Senior Level about 80% seem to be requests like this or "me too" type responses to another monger's post. Not a whole lot of substantive Intel seems to flow out of your keyboard and into the forums. Yet, you've asked for our best Recommendation and, in addition, put seven pre-conditions on that intel, as well.
I'm not averse to sharing information, especially with "other sm's," but I have to have reason to believe that the request comes from one who has been generous with his own info. Perhaps you have, via PMs, but that should not displace the info you ought to share in the open forum.
Not sure how my fellow NoVa and DC area mongers feel, but if this were a committee reviewing a loan application, I'd have to vote against your application on the basis that your credit hasn't been fully established yet. We have plenty of recommendations to "lend" but can only spread them so far. (Hmmm. Maybe that's not quite the way to phrase that.)
Recommendation: Try one or more of the NoVa AMPs while you are here, and report back on them. There are a number of AMPs and therapists that, in spite of our best efforts, still need reviewing. It's just that in these harder economic times, we don't have as much "mongering around" cash as we once did. Maintain the necessary discreetness to protect the therapists. Then, on a return visit perhaps your request for "our best AMPs" will get a hearty endorsement. Until then, this member of the NoVa AMP Recommendations Committee will have to defer. Not decline, just defer For the time being.
R:RNothing against the guy (I am not attacking you) , but I know the type that knows it's easier to ask and be lazy than to try to learn the trade. Some people do that in all aspects of their life. For example, I used to work on friends guitars for free. After a while I told the person,"If you like, I can teach you how to work on your guitar." A few would be like "No, I really don't want to learn." Those are the people I started charging a very small fee. People who actually took interest I would teach the basics and stuff that was WAY above their level I would still do for free (just so they wouldn't mess up their guitar). The point is they showed interest and work ethic and got rewarded. We were all there once and it is only fair that people who only ask or just make "Me too" comments and never help need to go through the process of investigation, TOFTT, and sharing. So, I would say not old and cranky Roman, just rational and fair. And good luck finding a NOVA talent that is mid 20's.
Lovejugs
I completly agree as well.
If it smells like apples, then call it apples. If it smells like bacon then call it pork. I mean come on why do we need too shoot our shelfs in the foot. Its like restoring that 55 chevy you`ve got to put some work into any hobbie!
Happy Hunting.
AJ.
Hmmm. Maybe I'm getting cranky and grubby in my old age, but of the 45 posts that got you to Senior Level about 80% seem to be requests like this or "me too" type responses to another monger's post. Not a whole lot of substantive Intel seems to flow out of your keyboard and into the forums. Yet, you've asked for our best Recommendation and, in addition, put seven pre-conditions on that intel, as well.
I'm not averse to sharing information, especially with "other sm's," but I have to have reason to believe that the request comes from one who has been generous with his own info. Perhaps you have, via PMs, but that should not displace the info you ought to share in the open forum.
Not sure how my fellow NoVa and DC area mongers feel, but if this were a committee reviewing a loan application, I'd have to vote against your application on the basis that your credit hasn't been fully established yet. We have plenty of recommendations to "lend" but can only spread them so far. (Hmmm. Maybe that's not quite the way to phrase that.)
Recommendation: Try one or more of the NoVa AMPs while you are here, and report back on them. There are a number of AMPs and therapists that, in spite of our best efforts, still need reviewing. It's just that in these harder economic times, we don't have as much "mongering around" cash as we once did. Maintain the necessary discreetness to protect the therapists. Then, on a return visit perhaps your request for "our best AMPs" will get a hearty endorsement. Until then, this member of the NoVa AMP Recommendations Committee will have to defer. Not decline, just defer For the time being.
R:R
Nothing against the guy (I am not attacking you) , but I know the type that knows it's easier to ask and be lazy than to try to learn the trade. Some people do that in all aspects of their life. For example, I used to work on friends guitars for free. After a while I told the person,"If you like, I can teach you how to work on your guitar." A few would be like "No, I really don't want to learn." Those are the people I started charging a very small fee. People who actually took interest I would teach the basics and stuff that was WAY above their level I would still do for free (just so they wouldn't mess up their guitar). The point is they showed interest and work ethic and got rewarded. We were all there once and it is only fair that people who only ask or just make "Me too" comments and never help need to go through the process of investigation, TOFTT, and sharing. So, I would say not old and cranky Roman, just rational and fair. And good luck finding a NOVA talent that is mid 20's.
Lovejugs
Member #4913
03-09-11, 13:53
I completly agree as well.
If it smells like apples, then call it apples. If it smells like bacon then call it pork. I mean come on why do we need too shoot our shelfs in the foot. Its like restoring that 55 chevy you`ve got to put some work into any hobbie!
Happy Hunting.
AJ. To the 2 sm's that replied to my post / inquiry.
If you look at my past post you will see that my recent ones are mostly questions, but my older ones have a lot of good info on AMPs and quality providers. I live in cville and we have an uncle Leo for every 4 johns. It's practically a police state! We get very little quality visitors and most local providers are very much UTR. As we all know, the inbox here only holds 200 pm's. I have emptied my inbox numerous times due to the amount of pm's that I share with other sm's. It's just not safe for anyone in my town to post details!
I can see how you could assume that I am "lazy" but that is an incorrect assumption. I am not to lazy to toftt, but rather my wallet isn't big enough to leave an AMP unsatisfied and broke! More and most importantly with all the heat on AMPs I do not want to jeopardize my SO, job or family by running into my uncle!
Therefore I use this board when traveling to find safe and fulfilling AMPs to visit along my way. That is a big part of this board also, to help eachother stay safe and hunt happily!
I could go into detail about some of you having your last 20 post or so being in the humor / stories section making jokes about tazering women in the park, but it is there for anyone to read.
I have been a member of this board for a few years and don't post frequently because I don't live the hobbie daily, it's just a hobby for me every so often.
You choose to blast me infront of everyone instead of in a pm. Why? To display alfa-male? It takes up valuable posting space and isn't helpful. So please get off your high horse and cut me some slack. You basically at cock blocking me and that's just not cool!
If you want to help a fellow Mongers and SM out, please shre useful / helpful info!
Thanks for nothin!
To the 2 sm's that replied to my post / inquiry.
If you look at my past post you will see that my recent ones are mostly questions, but my older ones have a lot of good info on AMPs and quality providers. I live in cville and we have an uncle Leo for every 4 johns. It's practically a police state! We get very little quality visitors and most local providers are very much UTR. As we all know, the inbox here only holds 200 pm's. I have emptied my inbox numerous times due to the amount of pm's that I share with other sm's. It's just not safe for anyone in my town to post details!
I can see how you could assume that I am "lazy" but that is an incorrect assumption. I am not to lazy to toftt, but rather my wallet isn't big enough to leave an AMP unsatisfied and broke! More and most importantly with all the heat on AMPs I do not want to jeopardize my SO, job or family by running into my uncle!
Therefore I use this board when traveling to find safe and fulfilling AMPs to visit along my way. That is a big part of this board also, to help eachother stay safe and hunt happily!
I could go into detail about some of you having your last 20 post or so being in the humor / stories section making jokes about tazering women in the park, but it is there for anyone to read.
I have been a member of this board for a few years and don't post frequently because I don't live the hobbie daily, it's just a hobby for me every so often.
You choose to blast me infront of everyone instead of in a pm. Why? To display alfa-male? It takes up valuable posting space and isn't helpful. So please get off your high horse and cut me some slack. You basically at cock blocking me and that's just not cool!
If you want to help a fellow Mongers and SM out, please shre useful / helpful info!
Thanks for nothin! Your welcome. Don't mention it.
Lovejugs
Took the forum advice and went to GnG for a relaxing massage. Got Cherry. She looked 40-something with a tight little body and B size rack. The TS was very rushed, but she made sure the equipment was clean. 5 min in the sauna then back to the massage table. Nice Thai style massage. A little rushed. Nice relaxing time. Flip was nice. Left at the 45 min point. Would have been nicer if it wasn't so rushed at the start and if I'd gotten more of my time. Decent time. Might go back, might not.
I`ll just say that in " humor / stories section " it does nothing for your poste count so " last 20 post or so " = nothing for Intel " A*H*'s ". Do`nt know how your comming up with 20.
To the 2 sm's that replied to my post / inquiry. I could go into detail about some of you having your last 20 post or so being in the humor / stories section making jokes about tazering women in the park, but it is there for anyone to read.
Aman Tuleev
03-09-11, 23:06
Went to Papaya at late evening. It was closed, phone did not respond. Went down street to corthouse road.
Met Yo-Yo, very nice korean girl, which is in late 3X, with good body and big naturals, heavy robed. She gave me a tovel with large gap, and we come to a shower room. TS was about good, water was about cold, not really touched sensitive areas. Back to room, shivering, because it was really cold. She put me to a table, and wrapped into towel, put on the top hot towels, and wrapped into another towel. I was feeling like a mummy, while she was walking on me. About good massage then. Asked what do I want, little non-aggressive upsell, but finally agreed on standard price, very good standard finish. Chat some time lying on the table and cuddling each other. Very friendly, very good english. Tipped her little higher than we agreed. All adventure take about 70-75 minutes. Definitely will repeat.
Stay safe,
Aman
Member #4913
03-10-11, 00:48
Your welcome. Don't mention it.
LovejugsLovejugs,
I'm just trying to have a good time and stay safe. You smirk like throwing a guy to the wolves is fun for you. What ever dude!
AJ,
20 was a rough estimate and I was worked up from all the fire I got from my post. I didn't know humor / stories posting didn't count, sorry.
Any one else on this board want to guide me to a good AMP that won't land me in heap of at, your feed back will be greatly appreciated!
If not I'll tap my funds for Jessie yum yum or one of the platinumcompanionsdc girls and call it a loss worth taking.
Thanks for the one decent SM who PM'd me with useful intel!
I'll let why'all know how my trip goes, that is if I don't get an unexpected visit from my uncle, no thanks to the helpful "fellow" Mongers that posted replies here!
Cheers
Roamin Roman
03-10-11, 01:24
To the 2 sm's that replied to my post / inquiry.
Thanks for nothin! There's an old adage that says,"The true character of a person comes out when confronted with adversity or difficulty." I won't speak for other members of this forum, CD, but you don't seem to take constructive crticism very well. And, with regard to my reply, you took offense too quickly.
As I said in my post, perhaps you have Been generous with your intel via PMs. I can't verify that, one way or the other, but I allowed for that possibility. But I also expressed skepticism with regard to the paucity of intel or recon you've provided in the open forum. Even your early posts don't have a lot of meat to them. Yes, yes, I know you said that there was a reason for your reticence. But, even in that regard, one can still provide a goodly amount of information without identifying the exact location or name of the provider nor the level of service obtained. Your posts largely lack even that.
And, in that same vein, you're exercising a double-standard. You Want the option of being discreet about what you post, yet you fault us When we want to exercise that same level of caution when someone we do not know just waltzes in and asks for our best recommendation. It doesn't matter whether we provide that to you in the open forum or via PM, we do not know you well enough to satisfy our Comfort level[/U]. Like you, we don't want to jeopardize our Sources and resources. It's nothing personal; it's simply good sense and safe practices.
Also, you say "I don't live the hobbie daily, it's just a hobby for me every so often." That's fine. Whatever style and comfort level you prefer. But, if that's the case, you shouldn't be criticizing those of us who have a different level of involvement in this hobby and wish to take measures to protect that. Likewise, if this hobby is just an "every so often" thing for you, then it's really not fair for you to expect others to provide their very best info to you. Basically, you get out of this hobby and this forum what you put into it.
As for your wallet, believe it or not, it's probably a lot like my wallet and the wallets of most other members of this forum. That is, we obtain our intel, especially our best Intel, via the expenditure of the contents of our wallets, as well as the expenditure of our time. We all work hard for our money, and we all get the same number of hours in a day. We've all left AMPs unsatisfied and a little poorer, so you don't have any exclusive claim to that status. But, giving the impression that our wallets and our time are somehow less valuable than yours is bad form.
With regard to LEO, we all Have to deal with him. The key is to find suitable workarounds, rather than retreating to the insular world of PMs. After all, if the Senior Members here supplied their intel via PMs and didn't post much of value to the open forum, the open forum wouldn't be of much interest or value, would it? Especially for the new members, who have very little to start off with but in some instances show their moxie and mettle by going out and actually gaining intel and sharing it.
Now, even though you called me an A*H* in the open forum, in spite of the civil tone of my initial and follow-up replies to you, I'm man enough to deal with it and not let it further influence my opinion of you. Besides, I still have raging woody from doing' the Alpha Male thing earlier. I'm willing, and I'm reasonably certain the other Senior Members on this forum are as well, to share some of my second-tier or third-tier information with you. After all, this hobby isn't an everyday thing for you, so a less-than-best recommendation should suffice, right?
So, if you want to send me a PM, I'll be glad to give you a couple recommendations on where to visit. They won't be my top-shelf places, but you can get a decent service for your money and you won't have to buy a jar of vaseline afterwards. I'll do this, even though your tone was out of line, because I realize that emotions sometimes get the better of people. And, I'm betting that, if you PM the other Seniors and Alpha Males who called you out, they'll find a couple places for you to check out, as well. How can you lose with an offer like that?
R:R
Member #4913
03-10-11, 14:36
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman; 1153448]There's an old adage that says,"The true character of a person comes out when confronted with adversity or difficulty." I won't speak for other members of this forum, CD, but you don't seem to take constructive crticism very well. And, with regard to my reply, you took offense too quickly.
In my last post I apologized to AJ, maybe I should have to you as well. Most of my gruff was directed to luvjugs for his comments.
I've cooled down. I was just looking to be safe and got caught off guard by the hazing I received. Maybe I should have asked what places to avoid. I've read post back several pages, but with Leo's activities, daily safety arise.
Anyhoo. Thanks
Vamassage Fan
03-10-11, 16:16
Took a break one afternoon recently and visited "SEXY Lexi". She's legit, albeit somewhat new to the hobby, had a good time, little pricey for the 1st visit level of service, but hot body and friendly personality. Seniors with hsitory can pm for details.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/let-this-ebony-beauty-rub-you-in-all-the-right-places-100-special-23/4410462
http://amagicaltouch.yolasite.com/
Took my first visit to a VA parlor. I used to be a regular in DC many years ago, but those places are long closed. And unfortunately those days are forever gone.
Went to a place in Tysons which was recommended by another poster. I still don't know what to expect and negotiate, so it was a little awkward. But it was ok, and will get better with time.
Lovejugs,
I'm just trying to have a good time and stay safe. You smirk like throwing a guy to the wolves is fun for you. What ever dude!
AJ,
20 was a rough estimate and I was worked up from all the fire I got from my post. I didn't know humor / stories posting didn't count, sorry.
Any one else on this board want to guide me to a good AMP that won't land me in heap of at, your feed back will be greatly appreciated!
If not I'll tap my funds for Jessie yum yum or one of the platinumcompanionsdc girls and call it a loss worth taking.
Thanks for the one decent SM who PM'd me with useful intel!
I'll let why'all know how my trip goes, that is if I don't get an unexpected visit from my uncle, no thanks to the helpful "fellow" Mongers that posted replies here!
CheersLast I checked none of us are wolves. The first thing I said is I am not attacking you. And honestly I have no axe to grind. I was talking to Roman about the subject in general pertaining to his comments. You are way too emotional and your style of post comes off as demanding information. My post stands and I my opinions are just that. So, I expect a post in the next few weeks? Pocket book or not you should be able to afford one visit.
Lovejugs
Mustang946
03-11-11, 12:00
Yesterday after an morning medical appointment and prior to heading to work, I thought I would engage in some much needed (and long overdue) stress reduction. I wanted to check out the Apple as previously reported upon. I called with no response. I had read here about the licensing issue but since I was just a few minutes away, I went there to check it out. The location in the building is a bit confusing but following previous posts, I found it. No answer at the door. The hand lettered sign mentioned previously has been replaced with a proper looking sign. I will return in a week or so.
Despite some misgivings due to previous posts, I went to an old prior favorite N. A former ATF, T*** was acting as the manager today as L*** had a problem with a leaking roof due to the rain and was overseeing repairs. I was hoping that T*** would be my therapist as I have many pleasant experiences with her in the past. She has some reviews on here lately that suggested she was not really in to it anymore. Since she was the manager today she couldn't take care of me but would give me a TS while the other girl was getting ready as I arrived just as they opened. The TS was outstanding with the water hot as I like it. Unfortunately, the sauna is broken with no estimated time of repair. Following the outstanding TS, I was escorted back to the room and met Y***. I have visited many times and have not seen her before. She said she had been there for only a month. She is a bit older, decent figure, but has smoker's breath. The massage started out OK but after 5 minutes, she told me to flip. I looked at her like,"You've got to be kidding me!" She took that as a sign to continue and started a back walk which I usually like. However her feet were like ice cubes so I asked her to stop. NO roaming whatsover allowed as she said she was shy. I flipped and received the remainder of the treatment. At most places, the therapists help you dress which I kind of like. Not the case today. She didn't even seem to suspect plus she asked for the tip upfront. I have never had that asked of me at this place before.
I may return to N* but only if T*** is avail or one of the others that I have had a great experience with in the past.
Does anyone know what became the the supposed head of Green. Have not heard anything since the bust and was wondering if she / they are out and if she recerculated.
Also, another former favorite now gone were the Thais doing Nuru. Had it good with one and great with another but they have not resurfaced. I received a call from the little one shortly after they closed shop but have not heard since.
Just seeing if anyone has any info. Not just for the little head but also because these were three good ladies who I enjoy their company, not just in the physical.
Thanks
Black Coffee
03-11-11, 23:57
After a quiet winter, a trip thru FFX LE's website today shows approximately 12 citations handed out in the past 10 days for "no massage license". Local ladies and some visiting from Flushing. Keep your radar on. BC
Max Beelyun
03-12-11, 03:35
I went to the place across from Outback, near Thai Luang restaurant, and had a really nice massage by Mona. She's playful and gives a nice massage. Everything standard. I will go back. Yes, I am being more circumspect than usual. No reason other than the feeling I should do so.
I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth.her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,
1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.
2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.
3) YMMV is true.
Be safe and happy mongering,
Loader
Bunker Buster
03-14-11, 15:17
I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth. Her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,
1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.
2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.
3) YMMV is true.
Be safe and happy mongering,
LoaderI was thinking to say that you should have stood your ground even more, but under the circumstances, you held on and didn't get completely abused, and it's easy for someone who wasn't in that situation to say what he "would" have done.
Having been there, I know there are ten things going through your mind when getting the face-to-face hard sell: did she do something special, did she do extra work on a sore spot, do I want to come back, did the going rate increase and I didn't notice, am I confused about something, did I give her reason to expect more, etc.
In the end, all you can do is hold the line as well as possible, get out, warn others, and don't go back.
Welcome to the club, the "next time" club. This has ruined the game for me her to the point I do not visit very often. I would run once a week or two but I have been disappointed too many times and do not like the feeling. Any good that comes out, I still leave with that bad taste.
I know some might say the ladies need to protect themselves but we also need to protect ourselves. The one con these ladies have is trying to make us think it is OK to squeeze with the hands but not OK to squeeze with the sugar walls. FYI, same thing in the eyes of the law. The hand shake can send them to jail as well.
This con is the game they play in this area because we allow it. At least you did nt give in too the $ and I will not say anything negative if you gave her what you thought the massage was worth the tip, I support that thinking.
The next time should not work for them; them last time I heard it was at Green and I told them next time when they asked for the TIP.
Good luck and hopefully this place will get back to business as it was in 2003 and bring back a more diverse bunch including asian youth and latins.
Thanks for your time.
. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite.
Loader
FromTheDMV
03-14-11, 17:31
I stopped by mwc last nite. Not what I expected. I can't recommend. Paid. 8 for an hr. Standard nova after some persuasian. .6 tip because she was nice. Won't repeat. There, I just busted my cherry. .
Pilot Aviator
03-14-11, 19:18
I was thinking. <snip .
When getting the face-to-face hard sell:. Do I want to come back.I find BB's words in his post very well stated. When determining the gratuity on a visit that was not everything you wanted, always ask yourself "do I want to come back". And if the answer is "not really" it is much easier to hold the tip line when service was no more (or was less) than expected.
Be nice to the ladies. But also be fair to yourself.
PA
Rooster454
03-14-11, 20:43
It's not quite a mp, it's just a girl in a small apartment in falls church with a massage table. She said she doesn't live there hence the lack of a bed and the only furniture being a massage table and a couch. Massage was very weak and I was dowsed in baby oil. On the flip she did a little light rubbing on my legs and arm and then went into HJ. Roaming and licking was allowed up north and some roaming down south, but lets just say my hands stayed dry. It didn't seem as though she offered extras.
I don't think I would repeat as the price is high for the lack of massage quality and extras available
Went there yesterday. Had a great time. Wonderful table shower followed by a long nice massage.
The girl was funny, friendly with a great attitude. Nothing rushed and I felt very special. On leaving I got a kiss and my ass pinched! Ha ha ha.
Will go back.
Rooster454
03-14-11, 22:52
It's not quite a mp, it's just a girl in a small apartment in falls church with a massage table. She said she doesn't live there hence the lack of a bed and the only furniture being a massage table and a couch. Massage was very weak and I was dowsed in baby oil. On the flip she did a little light rubbing on my legs and arm and then went into HJ. Roaming and licking was allowed up north and some roaming down south, but lets just say my hands stayed dry. It didn't seem as though she offered extras.
I don't think I would repeat as the price is high for the lack of massage quality and extras availableI forgot the link.
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/amorous-latinas-with-all-the-right-skills-to-take-good-care-of-you-25/4600767
Max Beelyun
03-14-11, 23:20
...The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth.her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" If I were asked that, my reply would instantly be "That depends on what is on the menu". Though I usually don't bring any extra, since they can't shake you down for money you don't have. (However, if I call ahead, and I know the girl, I may bring extra.)
Freedomfighter
03-15-11, 05:49
I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth. Her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,
1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.
2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.
3) YMMV is true.
Be safe and happy mongering,
LoaderSame thing happened to me at Swan across from Skyline. I also was unprepared and made the same generous offer. Afterwards she promised more the next time I visit. TS and massage was mediocre so I will not be back.
Rooster454
03-15-11, 10:59
I stopped by mwc last nite. Not what I expected. I can't recommend. Paid. 8 for an hr. Standard nova after some persuasian. .6 tip because she was nice. Won't repeat. There, I just busted my cherry.Can you explain why you would not go back?
I'm just curious because I went there less than 2 weeks ago and really enjoyed my visit. Read my review, was it nothing like that or it just wasn't your place?
After a positive review posted here on USG a little while ago I thought I would give this establishment a try as well as the recommended provider. So I did my due diligence and off I was.
A nice facility with a tucked away and somewhat private entrance, though the main door of the building faces the road. I was pleasantly surprised with spa facility offerings which were somewhat nicer than most.
My provider's name was Yo-yo, she was as described, early 30 something with a nice set of D's and I might add very nice long back hair that gave me some interesting thoughts before my massage started, though my fantasy never did come to full reality.
The table shower was above average but in more of a therapeutic type of way, but still a nice surprise! A trip to the sauna was offered afterward to which I declined.
Back to the room, a nice relaxing massage with the addition of lots of warm moist towels used during the session. I found this very pleasant indeed but I can see how some might find it a bit bothersome. I only mention this so you can opt out if you wish by telling the masseuse before you lay face down into the head cradle becoming completely unaware of what's coming next as peripheral vision is limited unless you lift your head up.
Now to the flip; a "standard NOVA" finish but with a twist which made things interesting, think Russian but with fingers in assistance with ice cream cone interludes. Well, you get the picture. Nice!
Cleaned up and dressed and I was good to go, and that's when it got weird (alluded too also here in review post #4790) , ie *compensation.
This unpleasantness lasted for about 2 minutes to which I held steadfast, keeping to the appropriate compensation level for services rendered. Unfortunately an epilogue to a nice main event left me in somewhat of an annoyed state.
As I have never been a big fan of compensation in plain view, under the watch or eyeglasses or whatever but have been OK with a discussion beforehand or even during. But unfortunately in this case, no discussion ever came and I was not about to start one either. If she had higher "above market" expectations, she should have mentioned them at the start, as some who try, do.
These girls know the score and every once in a while you get one that becomes an over zealous entrepreneur. Sadly, I know times are tough but they are for everyone. She told me she was fairly new, so I hope her next interaction goes better, as it's a pity to let this talent slip away.
*.6/.8/1
MnV
FromTheDMV
03-15-11, 17:50
Can you explain why you would not go back?
I'm just curious because I went there less than 2 weeks ago and really enjoyed my visit. Read my review, was it nothing like that or it just wasn't your place? Yes to both. The provider insisted that they didn't provide the services I was looking for. I am on the young looking side so she said more than once that the ladies there were not young & wouldn't appeal to me anyway. Recommended I go elsewhere. She was an attractive older woman (early 40s?) so I didn't mind.
Rooster454
03-16-11, 09:30
Yes to both. The provider insisted that they didn't provide the services I was looking for. I am on the young looking side so she said more than once that the ladies there were not young & wouldn't appeal to me anyway. Recommended I go elsewhere. She was an attractive older woman (early 40s?) so I didn't mind.Thanks for the response and sorry to hear you didn't get what you wanted. I'm surprised to hear that they told you they don't offer thoe types of services, the girl I had was young maybe late 20's and on the flip just went into those services before I even said anything about them. I'm on the young side too only being 26, but I look like I'm 20 and that's what the girls always say when I say I'm 26 and the girl I had was very appealing.
Maybe they thought you were a cop?
FromTheDMV
03-16-11, 19:15
Thanks for the response and sorry to hear you didn't get what you wanted. I'm surprised to hear that they told you they don't offer thoe types of services, the girl I had was young maybe late 20's and on the flip just went into those services before I even said anything about them. I'm on the young side too only being 26, but I look like I'm 20 and that's what the girls always say when I say I'm 26 and the girl I had was very appealing.
Maybe they thought you were a cop?Wow, maybe I will try again in the near future. I have been asked before if I were LE, I work out a lot so I think that may be one of the reasons.
Captn Stubbing
03-16-11, 20:44
I have visited most of the massage parlors in Northern Va over the past 5 years. The FS ones have moved to condos.
Considering I won't be going back here is my review of my favourite.
I arrived at the vienna condo. The same Chinese family runs the one in arlington as well. They usually bring in women from restarants or out of state.
I arrived and the women who was working was ugly even for Chinese. About 28. Not feminine at all. Tall about 5'11, and the killer was hairy pits. Gross. Boner killer for me.
Closed my eyes and tried to think of the chick who was on the cover of the new SI swimsuit cover.
She got undressed and asked what I liked. I said well, I like seeing a girl on all fours with an apple in her mouth.
She either didn't understand or pretended not to hear me. Light massage and then time to do the deed. Whipped out the condom and startied to bang her like the ugly dog she is.
About 5 mins into she start screaming and goes Bat Sh*t. She said you too dominating. Don't like. What was
She expecting. Us to cuddle? Long story short, she calls the mamsan and I end only paying 100 instead of the 160 because I didn't finish. She is still screaming at me. For what I don't know. I go to the sink and get a glass of water. I then dump the water on head and walk out.
Fun Wed. They usually have 25-45 decent looking Chinese women. Not this time though. I am guess I am banned.
For now. Mamasan will let me know when I get reprieve.
Hit up the new spot in herndon. Nice location in office park. Easy to get to. Two door setup for discretion. Providers answer the door. They are new. 1 week so far. Only 2 ladies working there now. Angie and another. Both are decent looking. Most here will like. Shower was nice and through. I was going to be happy. Sauna is ok but has a window to the outside? Very weird. Massage was ok. A bit lighter than I like but what can you do. She was playful the entire time. Then for the flip she comes to my head and asks how much I have. This pisses me off anytime. I said I have enough to cover what comes. She kept at it. So I said 60. She said that minimum. CRAZY. So she give standard with no play on my end. I give her 40 at the end and she was a bit pushy. I told her, I will take care of you more, if you take care of me more.
YMMV.
Of the 4 places in herndon I rate this one second highest next to Herndon Therapy. If they get nicer girls it will be top notch. Honto of course being the bottom of the barrel.
Need more details? PM me. Those that have shared with me in the past or share always get priority treatment from me.
Unless something stood out from the service that made you feel you should give more. The hope of a little more on a future visit. The hands touching in just the way you like it. Teasing touches or pecks. Whatever you like that would have stood out would have deserved more. In my O, you had a good time got stroked 40 is more than enough.
The more you give the more for the lesser service the think they can con from you the next time. You may not get more but you may be expected to pay more. Give, so they know you will not stiff them and work you TIPS up as their service increases.
PS: D not feel bad if you need to cut back on the TIPS for shitty service.
Again, just my opinion.
Basically, .40 is the bottom, like no HJ at all, or just a simple HJ. If the TS was that good, and you're going back, .60 is the number.
Capricaone
03-17-11, 16:04
Yep, definite TOFTT. Went to TWBC asked for Candi who was great last time."Sorry on vacation." Got Lucky who was definitely pretty but needs a new line of work. Terrible attitude. I mean terrible. Don't be fooled by the wrapping. This toy isn't worth playing with. Deducted points from her and she complained like crazy at the end. Not going to TWBC again till I hear good news. Its a shame as Candi was 5-stars.
After a positive review posted here on USG a little while ago I thought I would give this establishment a try as well as the recommended provider. So I did my due diligence and off I was.
MnVI take just because a C is in the name this place isn't as good as HWC.
PS- Nice to see you're still alive.
Zhuxi
First post!
I went to one of the new places on 2110 Gallows road, there are two in the same office complex. I thought I saw an add saying 60$ for one hour special, but went into the wrong place (Castle). They took my 60$ tho, and an adorable young girl named Kim gave me a long, thorough, very platonic, massage. The things she did to my spine! Sadly, there was no happy ending to this story, unless you count my well adjusted spinal column.
Hey, I know I am just a noob, so don't shoot me, but are their new employees at Booja? I went there a couple of times in January and their were 2 or 3 older women, who weren't my type. If they rotated their staff I might revisit.
Wow, maybe I will try again in the near future. I have been asked before if I were LE, I work out a lot so I think that may be one of the reasons.I have been in your shoes before, looking young, clean cut, & fit physical appearance. Hell, I still look young, at least thats what they all say and then suprised when I tell them my age-they always guess I'm 10 yrs younger, my hair is shaggier-used to be buzz cut like LEO, that didn't help, and I am still fit because I hit the gym. Damn, I think I'll go look in the mirror right now since I look so dashing.
Alright I'm back. Anyways, I have found that the more you flirt with them without being overbearing, the more you can joke and make a fool of yourself and your "special purpose". Kudos to those who know which movie I am referencing, and the more confident yet laid back you are with them, the better the chance they will treat like a regular instead of a newbie off the street. If I try some place new, I sometimes mention that I am trying to find a new place to play since my regular spot's service is becoming subpar. They usually ask where else I've been and I mention a couple of places and leave it be. Once again, if I'm new to this establishment, I tend to let my "special purpose" expose itself in a joking context to make the provider laugh and feel more at ease that I am not LEO. It tends to make them more playful before the shower. Upon entering the shower, well you are on your own. I got you that far, now you do the work young grasshopper and let us know here on USG what you got.
Well, my secrets are revealed and it they stop working for me, then I blame you and I'm kickin some ass.
Be safe,
Loader
Wow, maybe I will try again in the near future. I have been asked before if I were LE, I work out a lot so I think that may be one of the reasons.How were you dressed? I'm a young guy (25) and I've found that when I'm in a t-shirt and jeans things have gone a lot smoother than when I was in a button down and khakis. There are just certain looks and mannerisms that scream LEO.
Roamin Roman
03-18-11, 22:44
Hey, I know I am just a noob, so don't shoot me, but are their new employees at Booja? I went there a couple of times in January and their were 2 or 3 older women, who weren't my type. If they rotated their staff I might revisit.Well, I've got good news and bad news for you, Barkie.
The good news is. YES! There are New women at Booja.
The bad news is. They're still On the mature side of the AMP therapist scale.
In all fairness, though, they work hard and try to make sure all the kinks are worked out. Standard NoVa place, but a good one to visit if you've just finished working out at the gym.
R:R
Hello, all. I know I will probably get ripped for asking as I am a not so frequent poster, but I just had to ask. Does anyone know what happened to Sky from Far East Therapy? I haven't frequented the parlors much since she left as she was my ATF and I mainly visited her. I am thinking of starting up again as I have some money to spend and if anyone has any recommendations, I'll take a visit and let you guys know how it goes! .
PM me if you are feeling generous
Again sorry in advance if I offend some of you and come of as rude, lazy, etc.
Post Toastie
03-19-11, 22:13
Several reports over the last 3-4 months. Sorry for the slowness in reporting in, and brevity of reports:
Ivy: Nov 2010, 45yo from NY (she said) , met me at door, typical AMP / Nova experience, not very good looking, but always wanted to check it out, so I stayed. Wandered a bit without resistance, got upsell and silly "do you want me to touch there" BS on flip, which I deflected with some reassurance of willingness. Not very fun, sort of cold overall, will not go back unless intel here says otherwise. .8. 6
2110 Gallows: Dec 2010, Went on cold weekday, waited 10 minutes in room, got nice medium massage, again from 45yo from NY, not terribly exciting, minimal wander top only, and typical nova ending. Super lotion, the expensive stuff, made the finale very nice. Bargain place, .6. 6 Will return.
MWC: Jan 2011, hmm. Awesome busty 30yo opens door and I am thinking whoa, yeah baby! Actual provider is, again 45yo, very nice, almost apologetic and very enthusiastic. Nice time, standard nova ending, was okay. .8. 6Not rushing back, but might if inspiration hits, and latest intel improves.
TWC: 2x, first with L* and then with uh, can't remember. L* off the hook and personal best AMP experience yet, totally committed to customer service, and nice shape. Very happy ending and nice farewell. Other was meh, but as a late comer (after 10pm) I could not be choosy. Acceptable, standard nova ending. 8.6 both.
More to come,
PT
Hello, all. I know I will probably get ripped for asking as I am a not so frequent poster, but I just had to ask. Does anyone know what happened to Sky from Far East Therapy? I haven't frequented the parlors much since she left as she was my ATF and I mainly visited her. I am thinking of starting up again as I have some money to spend and if anyone has any recommendations, I'll take a visit and let you guys know how it goes! .
PM me if you are feeling generous
Again sorry in advance if I offend some of you and come of as rude, lazy, etc. Don't know if you saw my post from a while back, but I thanked you for your help on a question I had. Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything about her whereabouts. Alot of the talents come from out of state and don't always stay long. You best bet is to call all the NOVA spots and ask if Sky is working. It may take a dozen phone calls, but you might strike gold.
Lovejugs
Ted Williams
03-20-11, 10:33
So I got a Feeling, Therapy that is. I decided to see if there was going to be a good first impression with a new place. I was greeted by an average lookin lady and did standard hour. During massage I noticed she wasnt being very flirty, so I tried to make it known I was tryin out a new place and I had a certain purpose for my therapy today. However, she wasnt buying it. Several attempts to warm up to her and roaming were discouraged. Massage was very mediocre and then came the flip. So she massages for a while avoiding the most important area for attention and then finally says time is up. I say she missed an important spot. So she grabs the oil and pours a ton and starts the handshake. After we finish she says thats normally $ for the extra attention and I know better than that. Anyway, to make a long story short, if I am in the herndon there is no doubt I want a Perfect Relax massage unless this situation gets better.
Good Day
Pilot Aviator
03-20-11, 16:08
This board is good for intel / recommendations (and so are its members).
Based on that, I visited Spa Castle this week. This was my first visit at the Castle, and it is a very nice place with nice people.
Arrival: parking is good, entrance fairly discrete. Greeted by MMS (did not get her name) and she showed me around. SC has perhaps the largest rooms and highest ceilings of any place. I know its been open more than a year (I remember it as a true "grand opening" event). And the management is "new"
Paid the standard for the hour (they were running a special if I had known I would have saved $20).
Shortly, Suzie arrived. 30-something, shapely, shortish (but not short) hair, chatty, happy. Some giggles.
Suzie was the therapist. Same age as Mai but not as thin, slightly larger everthing, not heavy, chatty, friendly,
The largest T / S facility I've ever seen. Great facility, warm water, smiles. An excellent experience.
5 minutes or less in the sauna and back to the room. Followed a very good slow massage (deep but not too deep). Very slow. She was in no hurry.
A great massage. And nice conversation. Suzie likes to talk.
MMS told us time was up at the 70 minute point. So I got every bit of the hour.
Not sure how often I may return. But, it is now on my list of good places.
Be nice to the ladies.
PA
Have long wanted to try a non-Peach parlor North of Tysons on 7. Anybody guess?
It was 1:30 pm and I called before arriving and was told "we no busy honey. Come over". Arrived to nice discrete parking area and entrance. Met quickly and escorted to #7 and was told there would be a 10-15 min wait. Was told that Lisa was running a little late but to relax with a water. Which I did. The surroundings were fairly old and "worn" and looked as though they were new maybe 10 years ago.
Lisa came in promptly thereafter and we went to the TS which was excellent. Lisa got on the table with me and really gave me a good TS / massage with proper attention given to all areas. No slippy / slippy. Just a great TS.
Back to #7 and a great massage followed. Complete, firm, relaxing massage with hot towels and foot massage that I found better than most. Lisa is early 40s, very pleasant face. 36B au-natural with a little pouch and little rear.
Lisa asked me to turn over at about min 40, started a soft touch massage and asked what else I would like. I motioned for option 2 but was told no-no-no and shown option1 with an outstretched palm. Don't like pre-tips but for a first timer there decided to offer a little better than standard fare to see if her finish was as good as the TS and massage.
With little encouragement Lisa uncovered her lovelies and shared them with me. She didn't offer and I didn't pursue anything south of the border. Must be a gentleman you know on our first date!
I was a little tired and Lisa had to exert herself quite a bit to obtain the desired results. Some extra oil applied liberally in the area along with some Russian resulted in an explosive finale.
Would I return. Yes. Is it a FS menu for a regular with Lisa. I don't think so but I could be wrong. Although parking and entrance was comfortable, facility could use some M&R.
Black Coffee
03-20-11, 22:10
Hello, all. I know I will probably get ripped for asking as I am a not so frequent poster, but I just had to ask. Does anyone know what happened to Sky from Far East Therapy? I haven't frequented the parlors much since she left as she was my ATF and I mainly visited her. I am thinking of starting up again as I have some money to spend and if anyone has any recommendations, I'll take a visit and let you guys know how it goes! .
PM me if you are feeling generous
Again sorry in advance if I offend some of you and come of as rude, lazy, etc. Allow me to share some insight on the AMP scene in general and Sky in particular. She was the best non-FS provider I have encountered in my 5 years in the hobby. The only one worthy of a 2 hour appointment. I last saw her right before Thanksgiving and there was no indication of an imminent move, but when I went back before Christmas she was gone. Why she left we'll never know but it could have been;
1. A close call or worse with LE.
2. I heard from her own mouth her displeasure with her name being put on here and the resulting "cold calls" asking for her by name.
3. Office politics. Hard to believe, but like other enterprises from Goldman-Sachs to your local Jiffy Lube, there can be petty issues between co-workers that boil over.
4. An obsessed client. Someone asked about her 3 times on this forum and once on another, (If the shoe fits, wear it!).
5. They travel light with no ties to this or any other area and if they get a call from a friend in another city with an invitation to make better money, they may accept it.
6. However well they hide it from us, most of these ladies have one or more serious issues, I. E. Family, old boyfriends, debts, health, vices, personality, etc. That's why they're in the AMP and not in the mainstream workforce. They need the structure and discipline of the AMP setting and the strong MMS.
In closing, we will probably have to accept that the phenom known as Sky is gone forever and when you venture out to a new place and find yourself on your back with a 60 year old battle-axe yanking on junior like she's mad at it, clse your eyes and think of Sky. Works for me! BC.
Unforgettablej
03-21-11, 08:29
hey everyone! i've submitted a report in the bp escorts section, but this is my first amp review. i appreciate everyone's help and look forward to contributing to this site.
i went to the castle in need of a massage, and they were nice enough to let me in early. here's the details (scroll to the bottom for the rundown) :
-parking. nice, plenty available.
-entrance. discreet (next to the restaurant entrance) , but also easy to find (labeled lol)
-service. i never met the mamasan (spelled it right?) , but the therapists i met were very nice. there was one that looked hot! late 20's, full figured, very friendly! (what's her name?) i was sent to a room with a different therapist.
-provider. kandi (candi?). mid 30's, decent body, not so pretty face. very nervous and secretive. she asked for my i'd because she thought i was **** (a bit strange since i'm 30). i tried to help her relax and let her know why i was there. i wondered for a moment if there would be no nova finish.
-ts. this was my first, very nice, thorough, warm water. kandi did a good job.
-sauna. stayed there for a few mins to "dry off"
-massage. very good! she had nice strong hands, did the whole walking on my back, etc. i made a few nice comments about her body and she would say "shhh. later." it felt a bit awkward.
-finish. standard nova. she said that's all they do there. a bit of roaming was allowed but very restricted. i got the impression she did not want to do anything at all. (at least she didn't ask for a tip up front) afterwards she told me to come back and she might do more. i'm sure you've heard that before.
i would want to go back and see the other therapist (she was hot!). i doubt i'll be back for kandi. although she was a great masseuse, i'm looking for a bit more sensuality.
summary: ts. 8/10, massage. 9/10, finish. 5/10, damage..8 (standard hour) , .4 (tip)
hope this helps!
I take just because a C is in the name this place isn't as good as HWC.
PS- Nice to see you're still alive.
ZhuxiAh yes, HWC, those were the days.
MnV
I dropped into Shine today but someone inside said come back in an hour. One hour later no one even shouted through the door. Do these people want any business or do they just like posting ads on Craigslist?
Yak
Amp Forever
03-21-11, 15:57
Was in Manassas to check out an antique place (not my usual AO) , and stumbled across Lily's next door. MSM showed me to the room and a few minutes later Candi came in (thin, late 30. Early 40 ish) and collected the house fee. Took me to the TS, which was okay (@average. Not a Sarah or YoYo for sure). Didn't do a great job of drying me off and it was a little cold going back to the room. Massage was brief (@10 minutes) and mediocre. Asked what I wanted. Went for FS. She wanted tip up front, offered standard FS fee, she pouted a little but agreed. Proceeded to strip and put a hat on junior, followed by 3-4 minute CBJ and then hopped on table. No DATY, but finished in mish. She grimaced with each thrust (you soooo big) , but really didn't seem to be faking the discomfort. Paid for an hour, ; got@35 minutes. Won't return.
How were you dressed? I'm a young guy (25) and I've found that when I'm in a t-shirt and jeans things have gone a lot smoother than when I was in a button down and khakis. There are just certain looks and mannerisms that scream LEO.I'm fit and trim and if I walk into a place and my hair is neat and trimmed from a recent haircut (military style fade) , and I'm wearing casual business attire (e. G. Coming from work) , too soften up the ladies I engage in casual chit chat, mentioning I was stationed in Korea at [insert Army or Air Force base here] and throw a couple more be. S. Lines, mentioning some bars that I have *allegedly* visited while I was in Korea (you can look these up on another international "hobby" forum). This military be. S. Story line usually casts their suspicions aside and they warm up to you. I'm former military so I can easily make up a storyline with ease and play it off really well. If you are not military, you need to do some homework on how to make the military storyline work for you.
If they ask when I got out of the military, I tell them about 6 months ago and just moved to the area to work. A lot of former military guys keep their military fade haircuts after they get discharged and there is a ton of former mil. Guys living in this area so it should not be such a big deal for these women to encounter guys with military style fades.
Replying to AMPForever's review: Any AMP reviews containing the $100 Happy Meal selection that was offered should be really discreetly posted or not posted at all.
FromTheDMV
03-21-11, 19:00
How were you dressed? I'm a young guy (25) and I've found that when I'm in a t-shirt and jeans things have gone a lot smoother than when I was in a button down and khakis. There are just certain looks and mannerisms that scream LEO.I stopped by after the gym so was dressed in warmups.
I just wanted to say I really appreciate the responses I got regarding Sky. I guess I'll (we'll) never know exactly what happened to her unless by some small chance we may have the luck of running into her again. Until then I will be thinking of her whenever I meet a new provider and compare them with her. On another note, I hope to try and visit a parlor sometime within the coming weeks, and I will let you all know how that goes! Hope all of you take care.
Replying to AMPForever's review: Any AMP reviews containing the $100 Happy Meal selection that was offered should be really discreetly posted or not posted at all.Thanks for saying that. For some time I've felt indiscreet reviews have done as much damage as the LE. The places with full menus that get full disclosure here get shut down. The ones I've found that are not reviewed are nicely operating UTR. Some people don't care; some are idiots, but if one does care, please be discreet.
I am very close to Far East so I figured I would go to them. I am looking for adivce about this place & about AMPing.
Thanks
I called the # from Washington City Paper the other day and a guy answered "Asian Massage" definitely not an asian guy. Was there activity in Tysons last week?
Bostonpeter
03-22-11, 15:44
Went to the place named after a fruit. MMS recognized me, as I've been there several times before. Ask for the girls I'd seen before; all gone.
MMS was very cautious this time. Can't blame them. Tried to push me for a 30 minute appointment, but I opted for an hour.
Saw "Mina", who has a nice face, but with a so-so body. She's from NY and brand new. Massage was mediocre at best. The biggest problem I had was that she asks the tip up front, which is fine if she actually delivers. But a TON of haggling, lots of peeking into the wallet, a bit grabby with the money. And I consider myself a good tipper, better than most, but I found this to be too much. Standard NOVA finish.
PM for details.
Went to the place named after a fruit. MMS recognized me, as I've been there several times before. Ask for the girls I'd seen before; all gone.
MMS was very cautious this time. Can't blame them. Tried to push me for a 30 minute appointment, but I opted for an hour.
Saw "Mina", who has a nice face, but with a so-so body. She's from NY and brand new. Massage was mediocre at best. The biggest problem I had was that she asks the tip up front, which is fine if she actually delivers. But a TON of haggling, lots of peeking into the wallet, a bit grabby with the money. And I consider myself a good tipper, better than most, but I found this to be too much. Standard NOVA finish.
PM for details. I had the same experience today. Very aggressive for a tip up front. Gave her a Jackson and told her there would be more if she treated me right. Mediocre massage with uninspired NOVA ending. Gave her another Jackson which was probably too much considering the level of service delivered. Hopefully things will get better here but I don't think I will return until I start seeing some positive reviews.
Ortho
Mustang946
03-22-11, 16:22
Ah yes, HWC, those were the days.
MnVRemember the frequent flyer program there?
I am very close to Far East so I figured I would go to them. I am looking for adivce about this place & about AMPing.
ThanksGo inside, get a massage and report about your experience.
Lovejugs
Bostonpeter
03-22-11, 17:26
I had the same experience today. Very aggressive for a tip up front. Gave her a Jackson and told her there would be more if she treated me right. Mediocre massage with uninspired NOVA ending. Gave her another Jackson which was probably too much considering the level of service delivered. Hopefully things will get better here but I don't think I will return until I start seeing some positive reviews.
OrthoShe got me for a good deal more than two jacksons, and she didn't deliver. At one point I was at literal tug-of-war with money from my wallet before anything happened. She even had the nerve to ask for more afterwards. I have no problem with tipping good for good service, and I'm not pushing for more than the standard NOVA, but this was surprising.
Gents,
I came on here tonight with the express intent to report on Papaya. Yes, it's ok to say the name.
Before I can report, I have to ask, why would anyone ever take their wallet into an AMP? You've got pockets for a reason. House fee goes in the front left. Standard tip in the front right. Extra tip, if it is warranted, in the hip (or chose the pockets that make sense to you). You are there for an hour. Do you need every credit card and form of ID that makes up your wallet? I didn't think so. If you don't pull out your wallet, she can't see what you have in there.
Another thing. If you give her or the mammasan only the house fee up front and don't flash any other cash, then you'll probably avoid the upcharge hassle. I never get hassled. And if a girl came in and started a conversation about tipping before she worked the kinks out of my body, then she'd find herself in the unemployed line in the back room of the AMP and another girl would be getting her tip. As little or as much as I deemed reasonable.
I went to Papaya twice in the last few weeks and found two very adorable ladies in their early 30s who had great features, great attitudes, great massage skills, and great social skills. I left very happy both times and so did they. But I was not pressed for anything up front or at the end. Yes, Mammasan knows me, told the girls I am a good customer, and I was treated very well. Reputation has its rewards.
Papaya brings in girls from NYC quite often. These girls are often shocked by the smaller amount of money they can make here as opposed to NYC. Sometimes they only last a few days. Sometimes, they get a string of guys who treat them with respect and appreciation (also called Southern Hospitality) and it makes up for some of the lost profit. I'm doing my part to remember where they are coming from and I hope they appreciate my gentle ways. I am not able to pay NYC prices and wouldn't if I could. This isn't NYC. But I understand that they won't stick around long if we treat them like we're a bunch of damned Yankees rather than the gentrified pigs that we are.
Thus endeth the lesson,
AD.
She got me for a good deal more than two jacksons, and she didn't deliver. At one point I was at literal tug-of-war with money from my wallet before anything happened. She even had the nerve to ask for more afterwards. I have no problem with tipping good for good service, and I'm not pushing for more than the standard NOVA, but this was surprising.
Bostonpeter
03-22-11, 22:40
I specifically didn't say "Papaya" because, as I've mentioned, they were trying to be low-key and are being very cautious (and for a legitimate reason). I thought, that folks around here that would know where I was referring to (and I was available for PM). But also, being that everything I had to say wasn't completely positive, I thought a little discretion would be considerate.
As far as tipping, as I've said, I feel I tip better than most here. My thoughts on this, and what I usually tip, are on this thread if you search for it. As far as 'flashing cash', I haven't. But if you must know I tipped $80 for a nova finish up front, but she grabbed an extra $20 out of my wallet, much to my dismay, then asked for more tip afterwards.
Since this has been discussed in thread before, I don't think fair of what is considered 'standard' in tip in Nova. We have to understand that tip is pretty much all the girls make. And, yes, there are bad tippers galore in this area, which is why girls end up asking for money up front (and not just girls from NY). However, in the same vein, good service equals good tipping; even for a nova finish. And I sure hope that folks here have that level of respect for the girls.
Gents,
I came on here tonight with the express intent to report on Papaya. Yes, it's ok to say the name.
Before I can report, I have to ask, why would anyone ever take their wallet into an AMP? You've got pockets for a reason. House fee goes in the front left. Standard tip in the front right. Extra tip, if it is warranted, in the hip (or chose the pockets that make sense to you). You are there for an hour. Do you need every credit card and form of I'd that makes up your wallet? I didn't think so. If you don't pull out your wallet, she can't see what you have in there.
Another thing. If you give her or the mammasan only the house fee up front and don't flash any other cash, then you'll probably avoid the upcharge hassle. I never get hassled. And if a girl came in and started a conversation about tipping before she worked the kinks out of my body, then she'd find herself in the unemployed line in the back room of the AMP and another girl would be getting her tip. As little or as much as I deemed reasonable.
I went to Papaya twice in the last few weeks and found two very adorable ladies in their early 30s who had great features, great attitudes, great massage skills, and great social skills. I left very happy both times and so did they. But I was not pressed for anything up front or at the end. Yes, Mammasan knows me, told the girls I am a good customer, and I was treated very well. Reputation has its rewards.
Papaya brings in girls from NYC quite often. These girls are often shocked by the smaller amount of money they can make here as opposed to NYC. Sometimes they only last a few days. Sometimes, they get a string of guys who treat them with respect and appreciation (also called Southern Hospitality) and it makes up for some of the lost profit. I'm doing my part to remember where they are coming from and I hope they appreciate my gentle ways. I am not able to pay NYC prices and wouldn't if I could. This isn't NYC. But I understand that they won't stick around long if we treat them like we're a bunch of damned Yankees rather than the gentrified pigs that we are.
Thus endeth the lesson,
AD.
Remember the frequent flyer program there?Love that program.
Donkey King
03-23-11, 11:34
$80 tip for standard nova finish seems quite ridiculous to me. For me $80 tip means provider is good-looking, completely disrobes and performs CBJ and / or Russian w / lots of nude grinding. This has happened on occasion and providers were satisfied w/$80 tip.
I specifically didn't say "Papaya" because, as I've mentioned, they were trying to be low-key and are being very cautious (and for a legitimate reason). I thought, that folks around here that would know where I was referring to (and I was available for PM). But also, being that everything I had to say wasn't completely positive, I thought a little discretion would be considerate.
As far as tipping, as I've said, I feel I tip better than most here. My thoughts on this, and what I usually tip, are on this thread if you search for it. As far as 'flashing cash', I haven't. But if you must know I tipped $80 for a nova finish up front, but she grabbed an extra $20 out of my wallet, much to my dismay, then asked for more tip afterwards.
Since this has been discussed in thread before, I don't think fair of what is considered 'standard' in tip in Nova. We have to understand that tip is pretty much all the girls make. And, yes, there are bad tippers galore in this area, which is why girls end up asking for money up front (and not just girls from NY). However, in the same vein, good service equals good tipping; even for a nova finish. And I sure hope that folks here have that level of respect for the girls.
I have played in NYC and I am sorry to say you are wrong. The girls there ARE younger and more serving. NYC (Queens) is like the starting point for many and if you tell the MMS anything less than a good they will take care of you better, event to put you back in a room with another girl. None of this "next time" BS.
I am sorry, as for prices the TIPS rate are the same here and there so please, if you are talking to the girls about what they get in NY, and they say they do better, DO NOT BELIEVE IT!
OK, I have not been about to get back up to NY in over a year but dating back to early 2010 none of what I mentioned above was different. NYC + AMP (K normally) = younger more attentive for <= $.8.
Sorry to advise but most of the time when they are here they are already older and wiser. They have learnt to play the games. By the time they are working here many have new model headlamps because they know they will not get the attention they once had. By the time they are here they know they are winding down on a "career" and they need to suck up the last remaining $$$$$ they can.
Please do not be fooled. If is great you guys are not into young and vibrant girls but if you played a month in NY you will see a big difference. You are luck because I was forced to adjust coming to VA / DC area and this was difficult.
Gents,
I came on here tonight with the express intent to report on Papaya. Yes, it's ok to say the name.
Before I can report, I have to ask, why would anyone ever take their wallet into an AMP? You've got pockets for a reason. House fee goes in the front left. Standard tip in the front right. Extra tip, if it is warranted, in the hip (or chose the pockets that make sense to you). You are there for an hour. Do you need every credit card and form of I'd that makes up your wallet? I didn't think so. If you don't pull out your wallet, she can't see what you have in there.
Another thing. If you give her or the mammasan only the house fee up front and don't flash any other cash, then you'll probably avoid the upcharge hassle. I never get hassled. And if a girl came in and started a conversation about tipping before she worked the kinks out of my body, then she'd find herself in the unemployed line in the back room of the AMP and another girl would be getting her tip. As little or as much as I deemed reasonable.
I went to Papaya twice in the last few weeks and found two very adorable ladies in their early 30s who had great features, great attitudes, great massage skills, and great social skills. I left very happy both times and so did they. But I was not pressed for anything up front or at the end. Yes, Mammasan knows me, told the girls I am a good customer, and I was treated very well. Reputation has its rewards.
Papaya brings in girls from NYC quite often. These girls are often shocked by the smaller amount of money they can make here as opposed to NYC. Sometimes they only last a few days. Sometimes, they get a string of guys who treat them with respect and appreciation (also called Southern Hospitality) and it makes up for some of the lost profit. I'm doing my part to remember where they are coming from and I hope they appreciate my gentle ways. I am not able to pay NYC prices and wouldn't if I could. This isn't NYC. But I understand that they won't stick around long if we treat them like we're a bunch of damned Yankees rather than the gentrified pigs that we are.
Thus endeth the lesson,
AD.
Bostonpeter
03-23-11, 23:34
$80 tip for standard nova finish seems quite ridiculous to me. For me $80 tip means provider is good-looking, completely disrobes and performs CBJ and / or Russian w / lots of nude grinding. This has happened on occasion and providers were satisfied w/$80 tip.I generally tip $60-80 for standard nova. I tip for overall quality of service (including the massage itself). Personally I don't tip $40 like some are suggesting for an hours worth of time and work. 30 minutes with a crap massage, $40 is fine in my book, but not for an hour. A great long massage with a nova finish deserves an $80 in my book. In fact, in reality, the massage takes more energy and care than the just a quick finish.
Tips is all what the girl really gets, and I really don't think it fair that the house gets more than the girl. In this case I am in agreement with Alpha D.
As far as Mina, I gave $80 in expectation and agreement of a quality massage. This did not transpire as the massage was rushed. My upper-body was taken care of, but my legs (which were hurting) was not.
I would also like to add, if CBJ, grinding, whatever, is what you are after there are better applications of your funds than NOVA AMPs. AMP's services are far too hit and miss for that, and there are plenty of girls on BP that can accommodate you for that price (or cheaper). Tipping based on those criteria pushes these girls to act the way they do.
There is more to the AMP experience than that.
I have played in NYC and I am sorry to say you are wrong. The girls there ARE younger and more serving. NYC (Queens) is like the starting point for many and if you tell the MMS anything less than a good they will take care of you better, event to put you back in a room with another girl. None of this "next time" BS.
I am sorry, as for prices the TIPS rate are the same here and there so please, if you are talking to the girls about what they get in NY, and they say they do better, DO NOT BELIEVE IT!
OK, I have not been about to get back up to NY in over a year but dating back to early 2010 none of what I mentioned above was different. NYC + AMP (K normally) = younger more attentive for <= $.8.
Sorry to advise but most of the time when they are here they are already older and wiser. They have learnt to play the games. By the time they are working here many have new model headlamps because they know they will not get the attention they once had. By the time they are here they know they are winding down on a "career" and they need to suck up the last remaining $$$$$ they can.
Please do not be fooled. If is great you guys are not into young and vibrant girls but if you played a month in NY you will see a big difference. You are luck because I was forced to adjust coming to VA / DC area and this was difficult. Back in the day, before all the "unpleasantness", DC was about like what you describe in NYC (I. E., service, satisfaction & hotties were the expected). It's too bad we have to settle for the current norm but it's all we got! And if some don't believe me just read the old postings, (E. G., I really miss those B to B table showers w / benefits and that was before the main event). Now those were the days!
MnV
Donkey King
03-24-11, 09:39
I generally tip $60-80 for standard nova. I tip for overall quality of service (including the massage itself). Personally I don't tip $40 like some are suggesting for an hours worth of time and work. 30 minutes with a crap massage, $40 is fine in my book, but not for an hour. A great long massage with a nova finish deserves an $80 in my book. In fact, in reality, the massage takes more energy and care than the just a quick finish.
Tips is all what the girl really gets, and I really don't think it fair that the house gets more than the girl. In this case I am in agreement with Alpha D.
As far as Mina, I gave $80 in expectation and agreement of a quality massage. This did not transpire as the massage was rushed. My upper-body was taken care of, but my legs (which were hurting) was not.
I would also like to add, if CBJ, grinding, whatever, is what you are after there are better applications of your funds than NOVA AMPs. AMP's services are far too hit and miss for that, and there are plenty of girls on BP that can accommodate you for that price (or cheaper). Tipping based on those criteria pushes these girls to act the way they do.
There is more to the AMP experience than that.Just out of curiosity. How much do you tip for therapeutic massage?
I ask because I tip $20 for a good therapeutic massage. So $40 for a basic sensual massage w / standard NOVA finish (HE) is double that. Essentially the provider is getting $20 extra for a few minutes of massaging where therapeutic providers don't go.
Not trying to start a debate, anyone is entitled to tip whatever he wants to tip. I was just wondering if you tip $40 for a strictly therapeutic massage?
I dropped into Red Apple in the morning and for the first time noticed their rather bold sign on the office park listing by the road. They are open again in a nice facility downstairs. Mama is quite old but very friendly. My therapist, who was so unremarkable that I didn't bother to get her name, was much younger (30 ish?) but not one to let the scent of tips get in the way of her wanting to be somewhere else. Her TS was ok, as was her massage, but nothing more than ok. Near the end she asked me how much I usually tip and I said. 4.6 depending on how good things get. She took the. 4 option for the next few uninspiring minutes spent, and out the door I went. Yak
Covers Therapeutic Massage, can I get the to cover my next visit and then only worry about the TIPS? Over tipping does not always lead to better service. It is like with restaurants; too many wait staff have been shafted so many restaurants now add the TIPS to some or all the bills. This does not INSURE PROPER SERVICE, it just insures a plate will get to the table.
I still say start with. 4 for a hug / hand shake and increase and decrease from there based on the service, the truth in advertising and / or the enjoyment of the experience. I know for me attention and contact is very important, the extra attention and cuddle I might get causes the bills in my wallet to rub their eye as they see light. Poor / unattentive service causes them to sleep longer.
Many here think the reason we do not get the quality of, say an NY is because we do not tip enough here, I can tell you that is false. You might here that from the girls here but that is one way they are suckering you for a bigger tip. Trust this, we accept so we get what we get.
I know many of you, here in NOVA enjoy the more "experienced / seasoned" provided, so this is what we are getting.
Enjoy what you enjoy and hope everyone finds what they like.
Just out of curiosity. How much do you tip for therapeutic massage?
I ask because I tip $20 for a good therapeutic massage. So $40 for a basic sensual massage w / standard NOVA finish (HE) is double that. Essentially the provider is getting $20 extra for a few minutes of massaging where therapeutic providers don't go.
Not trying to start a debate, anyone is entitled to tip whatever he wants to tip. I was just wondering if you tip $40 for a strictly therapeutic massage?
I was here from 2003. 2004 and I found all I wanted, nice good people who you enjoyed visiting. Of all cultures; it was a real education!
Back in the day, before all the "unpleasantness", DC was about like what you describe in NYC (I. E, service, satisfaction & hotties were the expected). It's too bad we have to settle for the current norm but it's all we got! And if some don't believe me just read the old postings, (E. G, I really miss those B to B table showers w / benefits and that was before the main event). Now those were the days!
MnV
Bostonpeter
03-25-11, 00:31
Just out of curiosity. How much do you tip for therapeutic massage?
I ask because I tip $20 for a good therapeutic massage. So $40 for a basic sensual massage w / standard NOVA finish (HE) is double that. Essentially the provider is getting $20 extra for a few minutes of massaging where therapeutic providers don't go.
Not trying to start a debate, anyone is entitled to tip whatever he wants to tip. I was just wondering if you tip $40 for a strictly therapeutic massage? For an average therapeutic massage, my tip is based on the location and price of the original massage itself. A massage in a mall is different from a massage as room service in a hotel, or an independent therapist.
BTW, on a side note, I once got a HE at a very reputable hotel once before.
But the big difference between a NOVA AMP and a standard therapist is the risk involved for the girls (which can be serious). Worse, the girls usually get near nothing of the house pay. They don't get a fixed reliable salary compared to if they worked at some day spa. HE, or more, the overall level of service is a very different experience.
I don't go based on bulletpoint criteria of all the 'extras'. I go by the overall experience, if I can relax and spend an hour, and truly enjoy myself I'll tip well regardless of if I get the 'extras'. I'll tell you that I've had some pretty horrid BP experiences that hit those bullet points.
But again, for Nova, there are much cheaper options if you want BJ or FS then an AMP. Its different economics and a different experience.
At the same time, a bad experience is a bad experience, and a tip should justify that. Which is the experience I shared here. Though I didn't intend on making it such an extensive discussion.
Been lurking this site for a long time but just recently registered. I've only had one AMP experience and it was while on vacation in Hawaii. Decided to do it on a whim and got hooked-but from what I have read I think I may have ended up with a rare / fantastic first experience (CBJ, FS, HE) with a young girl in her mid 20's. I walked in and the mamasan exclaimed about how young I was, and told me she had someone nice and young for me. If anyone ever vacations to Waikiki, look for the Apple and ask about Momo.
My birthday is coming up, so I might as well celebrate that and my new job in style. Thinking of scoping out MWC, BKY or something similar. Will report back once I do.
Lisa: 35yo. Cute / petite / milky white and silky skin / perfectly cute hands and feet=generally just about right=10.
Massage: 5.
Tip. 6.
Only had 40 minutes-was my own fault. From 1996-2005 my internal clock would have me finished at exactly 55 minutes. No discussion about tip=happy customer. Recommend for an extra nice NOVA experience. Will return when I save up again.
Dtaylor1972
03-25-11, 20:04
$80 tip for standard nova finish seems quite ridiculous to me. For me $80 tip means provider is good-looking, completely disrobes and performs CBJ and / or Russian w / lots of nude grinding. This has happened on occasion and providers were satisfied w/$80 tip.Ditto. Haven't been in the MP scene much in a few years, but that fare should be for nearly a full course meal!
Not so many years ago. You were paying for a decent massage AND the hug was a given.
With a tip of. 2 or so being more than adequate for standard service....
Reading what's going on now - think i'll keep my $ for the few places left in DC !
Bostonpeter
03-25-11, 22:22
Seriously, if folks here are leaving $20 as tip I'm beginning to understand why so many of these gals are asking for the tip up front.
Now, I'm beginning to feel bad for criticizing them as I have.
But I think more should be leaving $20 or less as TIPS until the MMS realize some of us want more. I love a massage started with the table shower on to firm muscle manipulation and then the tingling tickle.
But dude I do not want my grandma massaging me. I also do not want to be hussled and I DO NOT want to hear next time. I was always the fool who tipped because I did not want to lower the standard (did not try to raise the standard either) but after the 10th time I heard "Better next time" or "more time next time" I responded "TIP NEXT TIME" and since then I did not feel bad about tiping as to what I feel the service is worth. You who want a massage from my grandma I will dig her up for you but I need a bit more variety and an infusion of youth.
Stop blaming those who are disappointed and start pointing fingers are the providers and houses themselves. Many might tip more should they leave satisfied, I have no ofter.
Seriously, if folks here are leaving $20 as tip I'm beginning to understand why so many of these gals are asking for the tip up front.
Now, I'm beginning to feel bad for criticizing them as I have.
Computer Luvvv
03-26-11, 15:33
But I think more should be leaving $20 or less as TIPS until the MMS realize some of us want more. I love a massage started with the table shower on to firm muscle manipulation and then the tingling tickle.
But dude I do not want my grandma massaging me. I also do not want to be hussled and I DO NOT want to hear next time. I was always the fool who tipped because I did not want to lower the standard (did not try to raise the standard either) but after the 10th time I heard "Better next time" or "more time next time" I responded "TIP NEXT TIME" and since then I did not feel bad about tiping as to what I feel the service is worth. You who want a massage from my grandma I will dig her up for you but I need a bit more variety and an infusion of youth.
Stop blaming those who are disappointed and start pointing fingers are the providers and houses themselves. Many might tip more should they leave satisfied, I have no ofter. No no no, if she ask for the tip from me (upfront) , I simply say thank you for the shower and I roll out, then most say, ok ok ok, but take care of me and I simply say "I told you that I will"
Computer Luvvv
03-26-11, 15:36
Ditto. Haven't been in the MP scene much in a few years, but that fare should be for nearly a full course meal!
Not so many years ago. You were paying for a decent massage AND the hug was a given.
With a tip of. 2 or so being more than adequate for standard service.
Reading what's going on now. Think I'll keep my $ for the few places left in DC! 40$ HE. 70-80$ BJ. 100$ FS. 60-70$. Disrobe, suck breast, etc.
Computer Luvvv
03-26-11, 15:48
Love that program.Yeah, they had a good Frequent Flyer Program down on I Street and by the Verizon Center back in the day.
Computer Luvvv
03-26-11, 15:56
I am very close to Far East so I figured I would go to them. I am looking for adivce about this place & about AMPing.
ThanksTOFTT, trust me, if you TOFTT, you will be rewarded.
Computer Luvvv
03-26-11, 16:00
I specifically didn't say "Papaya" because, as I've mentioned, they were trying to be low-key and are being very cautious (and for a legitimate reason). I thought, that folks around here that would know where I was referring to (and I was available for PM). But also, being that everything I had to say wasn't completely positive, I thought a little discretion would be considerate.
As far as tipping, as I've said, I feel I tip better than most here. My thoughts on this, and what I usually tip, are on this thread if you search for it. As far as 'flashing cash', I haven't. But if you must know I tipped $80 for a nova finish up front, but she grabbed an extra $20 out of my wallet, much to my dismay, then asked for more tip afterwards.
Since this has been discussed in thread before, I don't think fair of what is considered 'standard' in tip in Nova. We have to understand that tip is pretty much all the girls make. And, yes, there are bad tippers galore in this area, which is why girls end up asking for money up front (and not just girls from NY). However, in the same vein, good service equals good tipping; even for a nova finish. And I sure hope that folks here have that level of respect for the girls. Hell, don't be afraid to say NO. They tell us NO! Yank your wallet away from her. And tell her striaght up, you know whats up for One hundred bones.
Computer Luvvv
03-26-11, 16:41
Hit up the new spot in herndon. Nice location in office park. Easy to get to. Two door setup for discretion. Providers answer the door. They are new. 1 week so far. Only 2 ladies working there now. Angie and another. Both are decent looking. Most here will like. Shower was nice and through. I was going to be happy. Sauna is ok but has a window to the outside? Very weird. Massage was ok. A bit lighter than I like but what can you do. She was playful the entire time. Then for the flip she comes to my head and asks how much I have. This pisses me off anytime. I said I have enough to cover what comes. She kept at it. So I said 60. She said that minimum. CRAZY. So she give standard with no play on my end. I give her 40 at the end and she was a bit pushy. I told her, I will take care of you more, if you take care of me more.
YMMV.
Of the 4 places in herndon I rate this one second highest next to Herndon Therapy. If they get nicer girls it will be top notch. Honto of course being the bottom of the barrel.
Need more details? PM me. Those that have shared with me in the past or share always get priority treatment from me.Decided to try the place out since a friend of mine went last week and said his experience was unlike yours. The young lady I saw was from the old Aroma, we recongnized one another. All I can say is that I actually had a good time. TS Above avg, Massage avg to above (depending on what you like) , Standard NOVA with lots of postiontion changes. Different types of HE's on her part, little foot fetish on those nice feet, see-cups up stairs. Damn I forgot to ask what name she's using here, but I will let you know next time I go.
Bostonpeter
03-26-11, 16:56
But I think more should be leaving $20 or less as TIPS until the MMS realize some of us want more. I love a massage started with the table shower on to firm muscle manipulation and then the tingling tickle.
But dude I do not want my grandma massaging me. I also do not want to be hussled and I DO NOT want to hear next time. I was always the fool who tipped because I did not want to lower the standard (did not try to raise the standard either) but after the 10th time I heard "Better next time" or "more time next time" I responded "TIP NEXT TIME" and since then I did not feel bad about tiping as to what I feel the service is worth. You who want a massage from my grandma I will dig her up for you but I need a bit more variety and an infusion of youth.
Stop blaming those who are disappointed and start pointing fingers are the providers and houses themselves. Many might tip more should they leave satisfied, I have no ofter. The MMS doesn't care what we tip, only that we pay for the house fee up front. The MMS and girls that work there have different perspectives.
The economic situation is that if the girls don't make money in NOVA they just leave for greener pastures. At least the young and pretty ones that give good service, and are able to make money, leaving us with a older ladies that have worse service remaining.
The reality is that most ladies in this business aren't really tied down to a specific area. If business is better in NY, Jersey, Georgia, or LA; they'll go there. Word gets around between girls how much money there is to be made in different areas. Its a risk / benefit equation where they decide to work. The good girls always have the upper hand over the MMS.
But I really didn't want to start a conversation about tipping. And in earnest it was originally me who was blaming the girl for poor performance relative to tipping. And again, tipping based on overall performance is important, bad service should equal a tip that is representative of that.
But at the same time, tipping the girl poorly is not a great way for you to get your point across to the MMS. It just means girls will got elsewhere. If it means that 'grandma' with poor service leave, I have no problem with that, but hopefully people are tipping properly when service is actually good (regardless if its a nova finish or not)
Dtaylor1972
03-26-11, 19:36
40$ HE. 70-80$ BJ. 100$ FS. 60-70$. Disrobe, suck breast, etc.No problem w / tips for GOOD service. But when it's expected up front and haggled over for bare minimum service. We have lost all control.
And damn sure don't let one get away w / taking $ out of your wallet / pocket. EVER!
40$ HE. 70-80$ BJ. 100$ FS. 60-70$. Disrobe, suck breast, etc.It has been a long time since I have mongered in Va. Mostly because of the Nova finish. I don't mind spending the money for FS, but it is relatively hard to justify that much money for a HJ or a BJ, with old providers, (even though I've done it before). Like the mongers that have reported here before, most of these women are fast approaching AARP status, even though they hide it very well.
For a few dollars more you can get a young, attractive and well reviewed escort in the are. You can even go to the condos. I am not trying to stir things up, I just do not see the cost / benefit ratio.
Propilot-Always check your six.
AKFourtySeven
03-26-11, 23:10
I went over in the early morn. Downstairs door was open but the upstairs was locked. Nobody answered my knock. Thats the 2rd time I've been there on a weekend and no one was there. Maybe they are only open during the week?
Lurker for years, first post. Haven't read much about this place, so here is the 411. Been there many times. Same 3 therapists always rotating. Since the first visit I always request Nancy. Average build, early 30's, perk tatas. Damage always. 8 in plus. 8 for great BBBJCIM. Stopped going recently, she got use to me and got lazy. TS ok, massage, ok too. Nothing special.
I don't write up here that much due to the fact that my hobby is more of the doing than writing. However, I think it's only fair to give back to the community. This month has been a busy one for me so I decided to drop in on a place off of Braddock and visit a place that once was blue but now green. Haven't been in a while but I decided to venture back since several months or maybe closer to a year has passed and I wanted to see if there was a young little spinner mid 20's by the name of Sasha was still there. Unfortunately, she's no longer there (But if any of you know who and where she's at please let me know). Now that my dream has turned green I decided to re-test the waters. That day they were staffed two deep so I went with the younger and better looking MMS named Linda for an hour at standard rate. She was in her mid 40's. 5'2" 125lbs. Off to the TS, since it's turned green the TS room has improved. Back to the room and started the massage which was on par. Before the flip was a buttocks and inner thigh massage that was unbelievable. On the flip she provided an even better massage showing that she's picked up a few skills in her day and allowed me to roam freely. Exactly. 60 min later the massage was done and I was out the door. Overall I give it a 7. If the provider was about 20yrs younger I would give it a 9. 5.
Went to the courthouse in Tysons. Paid for the hour and got a new girl Marie who looked 30 something. Standard NOVA finish, she did allow me to take the top off and roam there. The massage was good.
What other business would you support if they gave bad service? If you give good, consistent service, you don't even have to try to get a following. First off, all their tips are tax free. You think they actually report tips or even pay taxes for that matter? Second, let's just say for turds and giggles you give a 40 tip for, let's be real, about five minutes of finish time. That a rate of 480 / hr. Even more if the customer tips higher. 500 a day is not at all unreal. And yes I know some days are slower, but on the other hand some days are better. It is not at all hard for good talent to make a great living, some better than ours. So, if the talent gives poor service (and that includes letting the Mamasan dictate ripping off of time) , why let their life benefit from it. I for one say Nay.
This is a scale that I have always gone by (a given that TS / Massage / Attitude / Time paid for was Good) :
.2 No finish (my choice)
.4 .5 Standard NOVA finish.
.5 .6 BJ
.6 .8 BBJ / BBJCIM.
.10 .12 FS.
Disrobe and Nursing should be standard on all xtras IMO.
This is my general scale. Sometimes tip a little more if service is SPECTACULAR.
Poor Service (this assumes TS / Massage / Attitude was just satisfactory) :
Paying for 1 hour / getting 30 minutes. Minimum: minus .2 to talent.
Fake BJ after said would do real. HJ tip.
Agree on BJ, but she does very briefly. I tell her she will get lower tip unless she does what agreed on (HJ tip)
Agrees on FS but dictating to finish. Finish. BBJ tip
Obvious not into it / painfully boring. Minus .1 .2
AND NEVER TIP UP FRONT. OR IF YOU DO AND GET RIPPED DON'T COMPLAIN.
These are general rules and just my opinion. Unfortunately, the only way we can speak out is to tip talent less. Not always fair, but I can't be faulted if talent won't stand up for herself and tell Mamasan to be more professional.
Lovejugs
As mentioned before, I've had good luck with apple orchards so I decided to try my luck at one in NOVA. First time doing an AMP in NOVA (and only second AMP ever). Called for an appointment, after I said I had never been before I was told to just walk in.
Walked in and was shown to a room, waited for about 15 and Rose came in. Late 40's, average looking, but very cold."Massage? $80." then I was lead into another room, and asked if I wanted a TS. I said yes, since I had never had one before. Let me just say that if all TS experiences are like mine was, I don't think anyone would bother rating them because everyone would know they were terrible. All business.
Massage was extremely good. Back walking, lots of attention to my shoulders, neck and arms. 7/10. Tried to talk to her a little, to warm her up, but was met with short, brief responses (along with a few condescending laughs). She was loudly chewing gum the entire time, too, which was annoying.
Flip, standard NOVA finish. Minimum wandering allowed. .8 to MMS. 4 to Rose. I might try the location again, but definitely not this talent. Feeling a bit burned out / gipped, may spring to try again after this experience fades.
First, thanks all for the great intel on this site.
River: saw BeBe, Korean, mid to late 30s, shortish hair, around 5'6" and average in looks. She would be more accurately named DD, very nice set, available for nursing. I went in on a Monday, mid-afternoon, about 4 weeks ago. She was very playful from the outset, which I like as it lightens the mood. Met me at the door and grabbed my ass and laughed as we walked back to the room. Same fun vibe at the TS, thorough cleaning, and a little banter. Got one of the better massages I've received. Not YoYo class, but still good. She took her time, worked on all areas from head to feet. Nice and hard. She knows what she's doing and doesn't take short-cuts. She likes to kid, told me I have big ass. I really enjoyed the flip as her top came off immediately and I nursed and played with her tits. She began a nice massage that segued into a good soft touch. Standard NOVA finish. I left feeling not only satisfied but happy. I enjoyed her company.
First, thanks all for the great intel on this site.
River: saw BeBe, Korean, mid to late 30s, shortish hair, around 5'6" and average in looks. She would be more accurately named DD, very nice set, available for nursing. I went in on a Monday, mid-afternoon, about 4 weeks ago. She was very playful from the outset, which I like as it lightens the mood. Met me at the door and grabbed my ass and laughed as we walked back to the room. Same fun vibe at the TS, thorough cleaning, and a little banter. Got one of the better massages I've received. Not YoYo class, but still good. She took her time, worked on all areas from head to feet. Nice and hard. She knows what she's doing and doesn't take short-cuts. She likes to kid, told me I have big ass. I really enjoyed the flip as her top came off immediately and I nursed and played with her tits. She began a nice massage that segued into a good soft touch. Standard NOVA finish. I left feeling not only satisfied but happy. I enjoyed her company. Are you sure you don't mean Y#M* The only one I know there that is a natural DD.
Lovejugs
Are you sure you don't mean Y#M* The only one I know there that is a natural DD.
LovejugsI was thinking the same thing, based on one of your previous posts. I asked her twice just to see if I had it right, and she said BeBe. But I'm guessing you're right and I really saw Y#M*
Decided to try the place out since a friend of mine went last week and said his experience was unlike yours. The young lady I saw was from the old Aroma, we recongnized one another. All I can say is that I actually had a good time. TS Above avg, Massage avg to above (depending on what you like) , Standard NOVA with lots of postiontion changes. Different types of HE's on her part, little foot fetish on those nice feet, see-cups up stairs. Damn I forgot to ask what name she's using here, but I will let you know next time I go.Was her name Cherry?
Mustang946
03-28-11, 11:44
I had some recent so-so to bad experiences that I was looking for a "new" place to visit. After reading some of the reports here, I decided to visit the castle, a place I drive by several times a week but never realized that it was there. The location was easy to find with plenty of parking which serves several businesses including the restaurant in same building. The doors are well marked so no worries about entering the wrong establlishment. A word of caution: after you climb the stairs and ring the bell, stand back as the door opens outward. MMS inadvertantly nearly sent me on a tumble that could have been serious. Rooms are spacious. I drew Candy / Kandy as my therapist today. She said that she had only been there a short time and was recently from NYC. Previous descriptions of her are accurate but I would say that she had a pretty face as well. TS was one of the best I've expereinced so far with hot water and a through cleaning. A well-maintained sauna after was a treat on a cold day. Back in the room, Candy offered a cold beverage which I declined. An excellent massage followed. She is quite strong and can adjust her technique to your desires. I got the full hour plus I think a little over. Very nice personality. MMS greeted me on the way out. I left quite satisfied and plan to return soon.
I had some recent so-so to bad experiences that I was looking for a "new" place to visit. After reading some of the reports here, I decided to visit the castle, a place I drive by several times a week but never realized that it was there. The location was easy to find with plenty of parking which serves several businesses including the restaurant in same building. The doors are well marked so no worries about entering the wrong establlishment. A word of caution: after you climb the stairs and ring the bell, stand back as the door opens outward. MMS inadvertantly nearly sent me on a tumble that could have been serious. Rooms are spacious. I drew Candy / Kandy as my therapist today. She said that she had only been there a short time and was recently from NYC. Previous descriptions of her are accurate but I would say that she had a pretty face as well. TS was one of the best I've expereinced so far with hot water and a through cleaning. A well-maintained sauna after was a treat on a cold day. Back in the room, Candy offered a cold beverage which I declined. An excellent massage followed. She is quite strong and can adjust her technique to your desires. I got the full hour plus I think a little over. Very nice personality. MMS greeted me on the way out. I left quite satisfied and plan to return soon.Great review. I might have to try it out. Anyway. Went to Best but Ana is gone. And the place is shitty again. I did see a decent korean there last time I went but she was not there at this time. When I went now, it was just two older koreans one with a really bad makeup. Fake drawn in eyebrows. Service was bad, I will have to wait for Ana.
Exactly as I said; was she worth anything extra? Force the issue by not accepting but advising the MMS you are will to "tip" but you need to feel like an HONOR guest / customer.
Great review. I might have to try it out. Anyway. Went to Best but Ana is gone. And the place is shitty again. I did see a decent korean there last time I went but she was not there at this time. When I went now, it was just two older koreans one with a really bad makeup. Fake drawn in eyebrows. Service was bad, I will have to wait for Ana.
That is what I try to maintain, throwing extra if see meets what my dog like (looks) and less if she is really bad. I feel you have given good basis / start off points from there the woman earns or loses based on attitude.
Thanks.
What other business would you support if they gave bad service? If you give good, consistent service, you don't even have to try to get a following. First off, all their tips are tax free. You think they actually report tips or even pay taxes for that matter? Second, let's just say for turds and giggles you give a 40 tip for, let's be real, about five minutes of finish time. That a rate of 480 / hr. Even more if the customer tips higher. 500 a day is not at all unreal. And yes I know some days are slower, but on the other hand some days are better. It is not at all hard for good talent to make a great living, some better than ours. So, if the talent gives poor service (and that includes letting the Mamasan dictate ripping off of time) , why let their life benefit from it. I for one say Nay.
This is a scale that I have always gone by (a given that TS / Massage / Attitude / Time paid for was Good) :
2 No finish (my choice)
4. 5 Standard NOVA finish.
5. 6 BJ.
6. 8 BBJ / BBJCIM.
10. 12 FS.
Disrobe and Nursing should be standard on all xtras IMO.
This is my general scale. Sometimes tip a little more if service is SPECTACULAR.
Poor Service (this assumes TS / Massage / Attitude was just satisfactory) :
Paying for 1 hour / getting 30 minutes. Minimum: minus. 2 to talent.
Fake BJ after said would do real. HJ tip.
Agree on BJ, but she does very briefly. I tell her she will get lower tip unless she does what agreed on (HJ tip)
Agrees on FS but dictating to finish. Finish. BBJ tip
Obvious not into it / painfully boring. Minus. 1.2.
AND NEVER TIP UP FRONT. OR IF YOU DO AND GET RIPPED DON'T COMPLAIN.
These are general rules and just my opinion. Unfortunately, the only way we can speak out is to tip talent less. Not always fair, but I can't be faulted if talent won't stand up for herself and tell Mamasan to be more professional.
Lovejugs
Yes but if they know we will not return and even walk out if we are not satisfied with the offerings, they will have to work for us.
In 2002 before coming to VA, I frequented a few in Queens and in one if I asked the MMS would provide. If I came in and I did not like the girl and another was busy she would let me wait and have tea with her (not the usual waiting area) until the next girl was free.
On visit, I went for my then newest "regular" but she had moved one. She was good for a BBJ and covered after. I told the MMS if she new the others were like that. I guess there was a mix up in communication because she came to me with a FRESH youthful (about 22) who not only BBJ'd but when she mounted, to my surpised Cowboyed BB. I was not looking for it but it was provided; again, I think that was a miscommunication between the girl and the MMS.
All I am trying to convey is business priciples, supply us with good and our demand will go up!
Anyone been with the. ORG, Sky, recently? Wondering if any of them are true and true GFE as well.
The MMS doesn't care what we tip, only that we pay for the house fee up front. The MMS and girls that work there have different perspectives.
The economic situation is that if the girls don't make money in NOVA they just leave for greener pastures. At least the young and pretty ones that give good service, and are able to make money, leaving us with a older ladies that have worse service remaining.
The reality is that most ladies in this business aren't really tied down to a specific area. If business is better in NY, Jersey, Georgia, or LA; they'll go there. Word gets around between girls how much money there is to be made in different areas. Its a risk / benefit equation where they decide to work. The good girls always have the upper hand over the MMS.
But I really didn't want to start a conversation about tipping. And in earnest it was originally me who was blaming the girl for poor performance relative to tipping. And again, tipping based on overall performance is important, bad service should equal a tip that is representative of that.
But at the same time, tipping the girl poorly is not a great way for you to get your point across to the MMS. It just means girls will got elsewhere. If it means that 'grandma' with poor service leave, I have no problem with that, but hopefully people are tipping properly when service is actually good (regardless if its a nova finish or not)
Hit this place today, scored CoCo, she asked me who I had seen before, I gave her the names, all of the names I gave her are GONE (she told me, the menu that they served is no longer and option) , so for the previous reviews I gave, its null and void now. She (coco) is a hot little number, showed me her hair lazer removal on her leggs and private areas, but as I mentioned, the menu is Standard NOVA. She's a cutie, late 20s, cute face, nice leggs. Cute feet. Sorry fellas, I guess mama heard me doing bizzness and fired those other girls, ooops.Visited Booja a few weeks back and I drew CoCo. She fits the description mentioned earlier, down to the laser hair removal boo-boo she even had. TS was very nice and I felt squeaky clean afterwards. Sauna was Out of Order, so we went right to the massage. Very good firm massage and roaming was allowed. Nice healthy rack and standard NOVA finish. Clean facility and friendly staff and easy to find. Ample parking and discreet enough. I would repeat.
Sordo Scribe
03-28-11, 17:55
Many times I do the hobby, but first time post. I got stuck in traffic last Saturday on that dreaded 66 highway. Got off at the next exit and headed to Vienna. There was a place where you had to ascend a couple flights of stairs. Saw it on BP and no reports so I TOFTT. Knocked on the door, and one of the cutest providers answered. Stayed in orbit for an hour. GREAT massage. The happy ending was a blast. Though I got to play with the thrusters I could not taste them. As I was dressing, she showed me her smooth ass. I think there would be more if I returned.
Went to Sun Star last weekend. Mediocre performance, standard rates. Can do much better elsewhere.
Bostonpeter
03-28-11, 23:57
Yes but if they know we will not return and even walk out if we are not satisfied with the offerings, they will have to work for us.
In 2002 before coming to VA, I frequented a few in Queens and in one if I asked the MMS would provide. If I came in and I did not like the girl and another was busy she would let me wait and have tea with her (not the usual waiting area) until the next girl was free.
On visit, I went for my then newest "regular" but she had moved one. She was good for a BBJ and covered after. I told the MMS if she new the others were like that. I guess there was a mix up in communication because she came to me with a FRESH youthful (about 22) who not only BBJ'd but when she mounted, to my surpised Cowboyed BB. I was not looking for it but it was provided; again, I think that was a miscommunication between the girl and the MMS.
All I am trying to convey is business priciples, supply us with good and our demand will go up!
Anyone been with the. ORG, Sky, recently? Wondering if any of them are true and true GFE as well. I have to say, going to a NOVA AMP with the expectation of a BJ / FS is a pretty poor investment considering the options available at a similar price. Unless you have someone you know you can get it from, the experience is hit-and-miss, too inconsistent, if that is what you're after.
I have no intention of preaching what people should tip, but for me, when I go to a NOVA AMP I'm very certain of what I want. A good massage, if I pay for 60 minutes I don't want to be rushed out in 30-40 minutes, and I want a NOVA finish.
Any extras, I'll ask for, but I won't get all worked up if I don't get it, and I'll still tip based on the overall experience. A NOVA experience can be incredibly enjoyable, but its not a consistent substitute for the other options available.
As far as working girls and the MMS, most girls don't have a long-term interest in the AMP they are working at. Out of town girls from NY are usually asked to come from anywhere from 1-2 weeks to a month. If business is slow at one place they'll leave for another. The AMP is not their business, they don't profit from MMS being busy, and the MMS doesn't really care for the girl, which is why you see such a high rotation. For all the talk of "human trafficking" its actually the girls that wield the power, not the MMS.
I will be visiting Chantilly, and am looking for suggestions. Doesn't have to be an AMP, but looking for attractive girls?
Thanks
But th girls do not own the place and therefore if you mention to mama you are not please she will be gone. If you are going without the expectaion of at least a tickle you shoould go to a licensed place at least you will be covered should something go wrong.
I have to say, going to a NOVA AMP with the expectation of a BJ / FS is a pretty poor investment considering the options available at a similar price. Unless you have someone you know you can get it from, the experience is hit-and-miss, too inconsistent, if that is what you're after.
I have no intention of preaching what people should tip, but for me, when I go to a NOVA AMP I'm very certain of what I want. A good massage, if I pay for 60 minutes I don't want to be rushed out in 30-40 minutes, and I want a NOVA finish.
Any extras, I'll ask for, but I won't get all worked up if I don't get it, and I'll still tip based on the overall experience. A NOVA experience can be incredibly enjoyable, but its not a consistent substitute for the other options available.
As far as working girls and the MMS, most girls don't have a long-term interest in the AMP they are working at. Out of town girls from NY are usually asked to come from anywhere from 1-2 weeks to a month. If business is slow at one place they'll leave for another. The AMP is not their business, they don't profit from MMS being busy, and the MMS doesn't really care for the girl, which is why you see such a high rotation. For all the talk of "human trafficking" its actually the girls that wield the power, not the MMS.
Bostonpeter
03-29-11, 22:35
But th girls do not own the place and therefore if you mention to mama you are not please she will be gone. If you are going without the expectaion of at least a tickle you shoould go to a licensed place at least you will be covered should something go wrong.Since I think there are better conversations to be had here, I don't want to draw this out, so we can continue this via PM, but in general I'll say that good girls (young with good service) have the luxury of working anywhere they want, and not just in NOVA. They'll go where the money is. The girls with the licences are usually the older ones, and they won't get fired as the MMS needs them for when LEO comes.
Great review. I might have to try it out. Anyway. Went to Best but Ana is gone. And the place is shitty again. I did see a decent korean there last time I went but she was not there at this time. When I went now, it was just two older koreans one with a really bad makeup. Fake drawn in eyebrows. Service was bad, I will have to wait for Ana.It has been a few months, but there was an Ana working at VP. And she did use to work at Best. She recognized me, which I thought was pretty good since I seen her in a long while. Maybe the same one? Give a call and check.
Lovejugs
DomesticRabbit
03-30-11, 11:35
Took a trip out east on Saturday. It was the same Jennifer. Top notch TS and massage. Could only get her to give standard Nova finish, but was very good. Nursing was allowed. Those Jugs never disappoint with almost 3/4" nips. Latched on like a newborn. .
LovejugsJennifer, the girl from Hawaii with natural D cups is at V&P in Chantilly now. She speaks good English and has a quite accommodating personality.
I am a newbie to post a report, but have been reading this forum for long long time. You start to post sometime somewhere. For me, it is now and here. I will post and do my share of small-head brotherhood more often in the future. Anybody who wants more info about Jennifer and V&P Therapy, please PM me!
This is not a report but a question: remember the girls in Green Therapy in Sterling. Where have they gone? Haven't seen any good looking girls anywhere. Cindi at Best was cute but she is gone. Booja, Best, River, the old Holiday all much older woman. Where oh where have they gone.
Went to K-town since I now see P is back open.
I drew Apple, about 5'5", maybe 5'6", nice legs, on the slim side. Yoyo has left, as told by me by the mamasan on duty so I decided to go ahead with Apple. He face is kind of "flat" but overall she is ok looking. Probably a A / B cup.
TS was good, almost to the level of Yoyo service. Back to the room, she gave me an excellent massage. When it came time to negotiate, she wanted 80 for services that usually go for 40 but she said she would lose the wardrobe while doing it. I balked. I offered 80 for vocal lessons but she balked at that. I offered 60 for a 40 level service without wardrobe and she balked. She remained firm at 80. F that, I politely said no thank you and she resumed the back massage. I got my full hour. Since she didn't seem to want to compromise, I assume she is getting 80 just for handshakes without the wardrobe, otherwise she would had negotiated a little bit more.
I gave her a 20 just for an excellent massage but she wanted more. She played this pouty look on me but I stood firm. Maybe next time I told her. I left 100 lighter in my wallet. Not great but I would had felt worse if the little head had taken over and caved in to her original price request.
I am considering going to checkout this place. Any info?
I am considering going to checkout this place. Any info?
http://www.eros-dc.com/sections/washington_dc_latina_escorts.htm
Has anyone experienced this place before? If not, I'll report on it back soon.
http://www.eros-dc.com/sections/washington_dc_latina_escorts.htm
Sorry about the glitch!
However, the report is about normal for this area.
It was a normal bait and switch tactic, and there wasn't any Brazilians! I called one number, and they called back from a different number. There was a lot of waiting here and there combined with very vague directions and a run around. The person that I met was very attractive; however, I'd have been more acceptable if they were straight forward. She was roughly 5'2" about 115lbs. 36D, small waist, and a very nice, round backside. Strictly adhered to the standard NOVA finish, very little play, but we got down to business.
I would only repeat if I cannot find a better provider, soon.
8300 Arlington Blvd Suite E3.
703 206-8300
Advertised as MWC but something like Merrifield Wellness on the Door.
Make sure to get the hr, its worth it.
Jennifer, the girl from Hawaii with natural D cups is at V&P in Chantilly now. She speaks good English and has a quite accommodating personality.
I am a newbie to post a report, but have been reading this forum for long long time. You start to post sometime somewhere. For me, it is now and here. I will post and do my share of small-head brotherhood more often in the future. Anybody who wants more info about Jennifer and V&P Therapy, please PM me! I hadn't been to V&P for a while, but after your report and a phone call I made an appointment. Her personality and professionalism NEVER disappoints. Trust me don't walk, run and make an appointment.
Lovejugs
Do not go. Feeling adventurous I wanted to try a new AMP. I decided to go to M&M wellness for a half hour session. After the massage ended the messuese gets up and says we are done. When I grab her hand to show her where I want additional attention she starts explaining that they do not do that. I promptly got up, got dressed and left. To top it off, as I was getting dressed she had the nerve to look at me like she wanted a tip. Damage. 6 no tip. For the service I got, or didn't get, I might as well went to a better spa where the providers breath does not smell like kimshe. As a friend who just TOFTT, STAY AWAY!
Computer Luvvv
04-02-11, 19:53
Visited Booja a few weeks back and I drew CoCo. She fits the description mentioned earlier, down to the laser hair removal boo-boo she even had. TS was very nice and I felt squeaky clean afterwards. Sauna was Out of Order, so we went right to the massage. Very good firm massage and roaming was allowed. Nice healthy rack and standard NOVA finish. Clean facility and friendly staff and easy to find. Ample parking and discreet enough. I would repeat.The mama recognized me from the place in Sterling, upstairs, across from the fire Station and they had a very good menu
MrSunnyHills
04-02-11, 20:07
Well, after being out of commission for too long (medical and travel) , I saw the comment about MWC and checked things out, being a slow Saturday afternoon. Indeed, the recon is accurate, and the kid's toy mentioned was just as I remember from when she was at the southern fruit.
As usual, a bit frenetic, which is pretty good on occasion. As has been well discussed previously, her massage technique is definitely something that would be subjectively not preferred by some. It's not my favorite, but still a pretty decent massage technique.
Her NOVA technique is pretty decent, with a bit of variety.
I hope not to cause too much traffic with this confirmation report.
Computer Luvvv
04-02-11, 20:25
Lurker for years, first post. Haven't read much about this place, so here is the 411. Been there many times. Same 3 therapists always rotating. Since the first visit I always request Nancy. Average build, early 30's, perk tatas. Damage always. 8 in plus. 8 for great BBBJCIM. Stopped going recently, she got use to me and got lazy. TS ok, massage, ok too. Nothing special.What place?
Computer Luvvv
04-02-11, 21:00
So I got a Feeling, Therapy that is. I decided to see if there was going to be a good first impression with a new place. I was greeted by an average lookin lady and did standard hour. During massage I noticed she wasnt being very flirty, so I tried to make it known I was tryin out a new place and I had a certain purpose for my therapy today. However, she wasnt buying it. Several attempts to warm up to her and roaming were discouraged. Massage was very mediocre and then came the flip. So she massages for a while avoiding the most important area for attention and then finally says time is up. I say she missed an important spot. So she grabs the oil and pours a ton and starts the handshake. After we finish she says thats normally $ for the extra attention and I know better than that. Anyway, to make a long story short, if I am in the herndon there is no doubt I want a Perfect Relax massage unless this situation gets better.
Good DayHow much did you tip her TED? And her name?
Do not go. Feeling adventurous I wanted to try a new AMP. I decided to go to M&M wellness for a half hour session. After the massage ended the messuese gets up and says we are done. When I grab her hand to show her where I want additional attention she starts explaining that they do not do that. I promptly got up, got dressed and left. To top it off, as I was getting dressed she had the nerve to look at me like she wanted a tip. Damage. 6 no tip. For the service I got, or didn't get, I might as well went to a better spa where the providers breath does not smell like kimshe. As a friend who just TOFTT, STAY AWAY!So how was the massage? Isn't is usual to tip for that service? And grabbing someone doesn't sound like a good idea.
Ted Williams
04-03-11, 18:34
I left. 4 for my experience, but that was laughed of course and honey this isn't enough. I am not certain of the name of the provider. She was ok with face, her body is at least average, definetly in early 40s. It may have been with an L like lee or lea, lisa. She really didn't offer it up and I just didn't care because of the attitude.
Recommend namu.
Good Day
So how was the massage? Isn't is usual to tip for that service? And grabbing someone doesn't sound like a good idea.I didn't tip because I didn't get happy ending service. The message was good. And no I did not grab her like you are thinking, I grabbed her hand, which was near me and tried to point her to where I needed more emphasis. This is a common gesture especially when you are a first time visitor.
Scorpion King
04-04-11, 00:32
Worst experience. Been there before and decided to give it another try. Tried someone new who used to work at a diff "fruitful" place. TS was good and that was all about it. Bad massage, she was sweating and turned off the fan and took time to cool herself off. On the flip, standard NOVA (nothing extra ordinary). I've seen much younger providers (in garden) who are much much more fun.
Total rip off. Won't repeat.
Max Beelyun
04-04-11, 01:45
Across from Outback, sort of. I had wanted to go to the FCCC but was not feeling quite myself due to recent injury. So I decided to go with the more passive AMP experience. Arrived at opening time to Chris (Kris?) who didn't know who Mona was (which made me sad). But she gave me a very nice, unrushed, and complete massage, and I felt wonderful afterwards. Saw Joanne arrive as I left but she didn't see me so I said nothing. Chris was very professional and attentive and her technique was standard but exquisite. Tipped 80 because she deserved it. She did not count the money, as her focus was entirely on me, the customer. Will go back if I'm not well enough to go to the FCCC the next time I'm in the mood.
I didn't tip because I didn't get happy ending service. The message was good. And no I did not grab her like you are thinking, I grabbed her hand, which was near me and tried to point her to where I needed more emphasis. This is a common gesture especially when you are a first time visitor.You don't know me or what I'm thinking. It's not a common gesture to grab a hand when it's not offered. A good massage for half an hour is worth 10-fifteen bucks. I won't speculate on why she didn't, but needless to say, no means no and she didn't deserve to get stiffed. It happened to me once and I was surprised, but I certainly didn't get angry. I tipped, crossed the place off my list for awhile, never had a problem when I returned. It's all part of the game.
Do not go. Feeling adventurous I wanted to try a new AMP. I decided to go to M&M wellness for a half hour session. After the massage ended the messuese gets up and says we are done. When I grab her hand to show her where I want additional attention she starts explaining that they do not do that. I promptly got up, got dressed and left. To top it off, as I was getting dressed she had the nerve to look at me like she wanted a tip. Damage. 6 no tip. For the service I got, or didn't get, I might as well went to a better spa where the providers breath does not smell like kimshe. As a friend who just TOFTT, STAY AWAY!My experience at M&M was similar, but I got an HE in the end and tipped. 4. It was very confusing. Sounds like there's no need to give them another try. Yak
Bunker Buster
04-04-11, 14:08
You don't know me or what I'm thinking. It's not a common gesture to grab a hand when it's not offered. A good massage for half an hour is worth 10-fifteen bucks. I won't speculate on why she didn't, but needless to say, no means no and she didn't deserve to get stiffed. It happened to me once and I was surprised, but I certainly didn't get angry. I tipped, crossed the place off my list for awhile, never had a problem when I returned. It's all part of the game.
I'd agree with Mastabuck. It is common practice to guide her hand towards places that need attention, and many masseuses wait for the client to do this so they can't be accused of illegality.
If you get a massage at a therapeutic place, then a tip is in order. M&M advertises with pictures of young, beautiful Asian girls and claims to "provide unique customer service that will leave you with a fantastic smile." They're clearly implying something better than a therapeutic massage, and if they don't live up to their own hype of what they "provide," then no tip is in order.
Giving tips for less than reasonably expected makes one a sucker, and there are more than enough places playing us for suckers.
"No means no?" Come on, there's a big difference between trying to guide someone's hand for a few seconds and forcing yourself on her, and quoting feminist slogans doesn't enhance the discussion.
WBC: interesting experience with Joy (said she used to be called Toy). She's here from Seoul via Hawaii.
In some respects she was one of the better providers I've seen, in others she was average and somewhat lazy. Joy looks to be in her mid to late 20s and has see's on a petite body.
On to the narrative: I was greeted by the MMS at the second door; large woman. 40's or 50's, very friendly and engaging. She sent in Joy, who was also friendly. Slightly wavy dark hair, with a few subtle blond highlights. Very beautiful, expressive eyes and eyebrows and a nice smile. Slightly raspy smokers voice, which is sexy. She strikes me as someone who wants to be friendly. I say this because in an unguarded moment when we turned a corner and saw another girl (Yoyo?) leaving by a side door, her face lit up and she called out to her. Told me that she was a very nice girl. In short, she's not one of those glum, monosylabic providers.
Once we got to the TS she was a bit more clinical. Not rushed, but not as fun as these can sometimes be. She then took me to the very nice sauna, set the temp, and left for a few minutes. She pleasantly surprised me when she returned by getting in the sauna with me and putting her legs in my lap. We had a little chat while I massaged her. On the way back to the room she took me to the wrong one (turns out it was the kitchen) and we both laughed at that. The massage was on the light side, some nice work on my head and neck, the work on my back was ok, I liked when she swept her long hair over it, but she didn't do much on my legs, saying they were muscular and hard to manipulate. I've heard this comment from other girls, but they have gone on and given it a good try. So there's an example of her coasting on her looks and personality.
On the flip she stripped to her panties and straddled me and gave a nice light touch. Full roaming. She has a perfect top and soft, tan skin. After the main event we cuddled and hugged.
Far East: This session with Su Li rivaled those with with YoYo.
I was surprised when she walked in the room, I hadn't expected to see someone of her youth and beauty. Lools to be in her mid to late 20s, be cup, hair to mid-back. But what was really pleasing was her diligence in all aspects of the service. The TS was very thorough, not just the shower itself, but even in drying me off. This attitude carried over to the massage, which was long and very detailed. She put everything she had into it. At one point she had to pause briefly, wipe the sweat from her forehead and do a few stretches. Then she plunged right back into it. The backwalking was great and she ended up working over every part of my body.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but she was great after the flip too. She was very gentle, which led to a nice long build up. Her voice lowered to a whisper as things progressed, which was very erotic.
A very nice experience. I will repeat.
RE: MWC is rip off
Worst experience. Been there before and decided to give it another try. Tried someone new who used to work at a diff "fruitful" place. TS was good and that was all about it. Bad massage, she was sweating and turned off the fan and took time to cool herself off. On the flip, standard NOVA (nothing extra ordinary). I've seen much younger providers (in garden) who are much much more fun.
Total rip off. Won't repeat. That's too bad. My worst experience at MWC is still better than the best I have had elsewhere in NOVA.
My ATF there is still 'on vacation'. I talked to a girl today about a lot of stuff, including trying to get some G2 on Cindy (my ATF) and could only get that 'she is taking a break for a while. ' Doesn't sound good, which is too bad as Cindy is the sweetest provider I have ever encountered (in 12-15 years of AMP experience.)
Today I saw Connie. She has been there 4 weeks, and came down from Rhode Island. Which means she is used to providing full service (which she confirmed today with a giggle, but we didn't get to that point.) She is older than Cindy and has obviously had a child (Cindy has not, and has an amazingly tight body was large natural boobs.)
Connie was a lot of fun. Last week I saw another provider (in lieu of Cindy, mamasan first told me then she was 'on vacation') who was shorter, older, and relatively sexy and playful but not as attractive and classy as Connie.
If you can go and treat her right, I would definitely recommend Connie. She did say that she does *not* like NOVA customers compared to RI customers, so I could see where she may initially seem to have a chip on her shoulder. She was a little too demure and disinterested until we started talking about stuff and playing around.
The massage was pretty decent, better than last week and on par with Cindy.
There is one other provider I saw there only once. I asked Mamasan for Cindy and she said "she no here, I have very naughty girl for you" and how right she was! I can't recall her name, but she had a very hot, slutty look. Like a hot Asian streetwalker depicted on TV (I have never seen a female ASW in real life)
I'd agree with Mastabuck. It is common practice to guide her hand towards places that need attention, and many masseuses wait for the client to do this so they can't be accused of illegality.
If you get a massage at a therapeutic place, then a tip is in order. M&M advertises with pictures of young, beautiful Asian girls and claims to "provide unique customer service that will leave you with a fantastic smile." They're clearly implying something better than a therapeutic massage, and if they don't live up to their own hype of what they "provide," then no tip is in order.
Giving tips for less than reasonably expected makes one a sucker, and there are more than enough places playing us for suckers.
"No means no?" Come on, there's a big difference between trying to guide someone's hand for a few seconds and forcing yourself on her, and quoting feminist slogans doesn't enhance the discussion. Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?
So I had a few moments to spare. I drove to the intersection of Braddock and Backlick. I paused and for some reason I didn't try the newly opened Peach, I went towards my old Nemesis NSP. Last couple of times I went I swore I wouldn't go back. Back times, upselling, pushy service were all contributing factors. Soooooo when I started heading towards the AMP, I was hitting myself in the head. When I rang the doorbell, a pretty MMS answered and pointed upstairs without saying a word. Kinda wierd. Anyways, as I got to the top she was right behing me and I asked to use the restroom. She said sure and I automatically went towards the bathroom. She watched me as I went in and when I came out, she mentioned that I knew exactly where the bathroom was and asked me if I have been there before. I replied yes, with a sad face when I told her it has been awhile and the last time 2 times I was here I had some bad experiances. She asked who I saw and I mentioned Sunny / Sony and she gave me the "oh. I know." face. She became very friendly and lead me to my room. Here is where the odd thing occured. She asks me what I want and I said the hour would be fine. She says no, only half hour. I said reluctantly said ok since the TS is one of the best parts. She turns to walk out and stops. She looks at me and asks do I want the TS. I said of course and she slapped my arm with a grin and said ok. She leaves and I undress waiting for my provider and then the knock came. MMS opens the door with a different outfit! So I get a TS with a 1/2 hour session. All in all, I got a great session. Fun was had by all. Sorry for the vagueness but I'm trying to keep the open board a little bit less detailed. Members, all you got to do is PM me and I will tell you about the services (extra*) and the appointment antics. Like I said, it was fun and strange. I would return and see that pretty MMS. Why not right?
80 hr.
60 hr.
Extras standard fare
Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.
What I will recommend is Backpage and Craiglist, event the other cops use then!
Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.You've got Forest Creek located at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive in Reston, and Private Day at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd in Chantilly.
Those are two of the best AMPs in the area, without a doubt.
Bunker Buster
04-06-11, 13:25
Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.
The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.
Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.
If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?
I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.
100. Good TIPS for good service; tesch them customer service until they treat us as well as a therapeutic spa.
Thanks.
"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.
The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.
Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.
If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?
I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.
Been awhile since I've been there so thought I give it a try as I've been hesitant to since the old crew got cleaned out and the bad reports started to mount.
Well boys & girls, things haven't gotten much better I think but as always YMMV.
MnV
Got to give my thanks to deuceslim for the info! Unlike justforme who just made an assumption that I am LE because I ask for info. I began my post by admitting I didn't even know if it was in the right forum. I am NOT familiar with the area. There are so many forums in the Washington area. If only justforme had read any of my previous posts he would have known that I have been frequenting AMPs throughout the country for several years. Unfortunately he chose to give me a simple RTFF. Again thanks deuce!
To justforme for the pm explaining his response. For us folks outside the DC area please understand that the geography can be confusing. Lots of forums for the same area. RTFF is a nice response for an obvious newbie. But for those of us who have enjoyed the forum for a long time it is an insult. I assume we are here to share info and not all of us are LEO. Again thanks justforme for your explanation and your apology (?) is readily accepted.
100. Good TIPS for good service; tesch them customer service until they treat us as well as a therapeutic spa.
ThanksI gave you the name of a site that does this, Sleaze. I hope you remembered to use it
"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.
The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.
Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.
If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?
I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say. I see you like to mix the oranges with the apples. As with most service people, it is no secret that they depend on tips It's stupid to suppose otherwise. It's not ethical or moral to claim that people with limited skills can "leave" a job at will, especially the relatively easy money jobs. To say there are laws against slavery but to be a participant in the industry that most authorities say promotes slavery is hypocritical and self serving, to say the least. I don't get your comparison about parking your car. Do you check your settings before giving a tip? You lost me on that one.
Finally (and I guess we agree to disagree). The word "inference" exist because people draw conclusions based on knowledge or lackthereof. It has nothing to do with being reasonable. In fact, I would think the less knowledge one possesses makes it easier to infer something.
I don't think you are wrong, it's your money. I just think it's a hard line for a hobbyist.
On mobile. This is a Chinese spa with great massage. No HE though, just a great massage. See Michelle. .7. 2 for the hour.
It still baffles me that we still can pay upwards of 1. 6 for a fucking HJ. 1.2 for a HJ is already robbery. Guess people around here make too much money.
PC out
Has another offering named Sunny. She's a bit different than Wendy so the offerings are an alternative to Wendy's Thai massage and can be worth a try, as they say."variety is the spice of life"!
MnV
It still baffles me that we still can pay upwards of 1. 6 for a fucking HJ. 1.2 for a HJ is already robbery. Guess people around here make too much money.
PC outHi,
Welcome to Northern Virginia. How long will you be staying?
I kid.
Somewhat.
Different girls from last time I went. Coco as was reviewed earlier was not there. Says will be back in 2 weeks. Other 2 girls are decent. Cindy is attentive and great TS. Friendly and nice massage but short. I was out in 45 minutes. I would of tipped her nicely but with shorting my time. Only. 4$ will go back to see if can get that full 60
Roamin Roman
04-07-11, 21:20
Different girls from last time I went. Coco as was reviewed earlier was not there. Says will be back in 2 weeks. Other 2 girls are decent. Cindy is attentive and great TS. Friendly and nice massage but short. I was out in 45 minutes. I would of tipped her nicely but with shorting my time. Only. 4$ will go back to see if can get that full 60I went to Booja last week after the gym and got another decent, functional rubdown, but I noticed that they have yet another New MMS. I think this is the fifth or sixth one that's been there since they opened last December. It doesn't strike me as a good sign of stability, but perhaps this place is sort of a training spot for managers given that this place probably won't knock too many folks' socks into the creek. I don't want to bad mouth this establishment because, as I said, I've received decent service after the gym. But six managers in less than 20 weeks is odd. Not sure what's up with that. Can anybody else figure it or have inside info?
As far as Coco is concerned, I've never had her as my therapist so I can't vouch for her service. But someone who drew her just after I arrived was still in session (or just about to end) when I was departing, so I don't think she's one to "short" a customer. Perhaps a discreet word to the manager, if one gets a short session, would be in order.
As for the girl who I drew, I think her name was Ebo. Anyway, the one thing that sealed the deal for me was her ability to give a decent (not great, but decent) back-walking. I prefer this in my sessions, if done properly, due to a shoulder injury I sustained in an accident years ago. Every so often, the shoulder "acts up" and a massage alone isn't usually able to fix it. After a good session, I'm able to move my arm easily and have near-full range of motion.
Bottom line: You'll usually always get a good rubdown here but, if you're looking for that sweet young therapist of your wetdreams, you'll likely be disappointed. Other places in NoVa are better able to meet that requirement, IMHO.
R:R
Max Beelyun
04-08-11, 02:26
It still baffles me that we still can pay upwards of 1. 6 for a fucking HJ. 1.2 for a HJ is already robbery. Guess people around here make too much money.If you are only looking for johnson service, then I agree with your assessment. I generally tip on provider attitude, massage quality, and extras. To me, the extras are important, but not everything. The last lady I saw did not disrobe or do anything beyond "fucking HJ", but the massage was great and unrushed, and her hands were talented, and I was the center of her world for a good hour. That's gold, and well worth the 80 tip. The cost was comparable to that of a very good certified massage therapist for a similar amount of time. I would, and will, do it again.
If you are only looking for johnson service, then I agree with your assessment. I generally tip on provider attitude, massage quality, and extras. To me, the extras are important, but not everything. The last lady I saw did not disrobe or do anything beyond "fucking HJ", but the massage was great and unrushed, and her hands were talented, and I was the center of her world for a good hour. That's gold, and well worth the 80 tip. The cost was comparable to that of a very good certified massage therapist for a similar amount of time. I would, and will, do it again.Been here for many years and have seen it go from. 6 to. 8 an hour. Tips are descretionary for all as always but for 1. 6 to 1. 8, I can get a shitty massage and FS from much hotter gals. JMHO.
Thanks for the input Max.
PC out
Are we really going too do this again?
The service is what it is so tip what you tip! It`s really simple, the ladies / Mamasan will either call you nice or cheap ass. They talk between each other so if you have history their and get another lady they see you before you see them your therapist is going too either be happy or sad. It`s really just YOUR choice. Not about how much money someone makes, BUT HOW MUCH FUN ONE CAN HAVE!
Yes I know some ladies are just no good then leave the proper tip for her efforts and let Mamasan know she was no good. This is the boss, so if too much complaining about the same person she WILL be replaced.
It still baffles me that we still can pay upwards of 1. 6 for a fucking HJ. 1.2 for a HJ is already robbery. Guess people around here make too much money.
PC out
Anybody been to this new place in Herndon?
Anybody been to this new place in Herndon?Yeah several reviews already in the last few pages.
I went to Booja last week after the gym and got another decent, functional rubdown, but I noticed that they have yet another New MMS. I think this is the fifth or sixth one that's been there since they opened last December.
As far as Coco is concerned, I've never had her as my therapist so I can't vouch for her service. But someone who drew her just after I arrived was still in session (or just about to end) when I was departing, so I don't think she's one to "short" a customer. Perhaps a discreet word to the manager, if one gets a short session, would be in order.
Bottom line: You'll usually always get a good rubdown here but, if you're looking for that sweet young therapist of your wetdreams, you'll likely be disappointed. Other places in NoVa are better able to meet that requirement, IMHO.
R:RYeah I let the MMS know. It was good for me except the early out. That really is a pet peeve for me. MMS acknowledged it though.
Bunker Buster
04-08-11, 12:30
If you are only looking for johnson service, then I agree with your assessment. I generally tip on provider attitude, massage quality, and extras. To me, the extras are important, but not everything. The last lady I saw did not disrobe or do anything beyond "fucking HJ", but the massage was great and unrushed, and her hands were talented, and I was the center of her world for a good hour. That's gold, and well worth the 80 tip. The cost was comparable to that of a very good certified massage therapist for a similar amount of time. I would, and will, do it again.If you're paying. 8 then tipping. 8 in a spa, you're just paying too much for something that's available for less, and at higher quality. There are a number of superb trained masseuses who give an excellent therapeutic deep-tissue massage, with an appropriate finish, charge 1. 2 complete, with are no worries about whether you'll get shorted on time.
Trusted seniors (including those I've argued with) can PM me for a few recommendations.
Anyone have info on this provider? http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/east-meets-westjune-571-437-1135/4450714
Meetmehalfway6
04-08-11, 17:48
Anyone ever been? Just moved to the area and saw that is a very easy ride for me to get to. Just curious if anyone has any experience there.
Brutal One
04-08-11, 17:59
Hit the "new" Peach and pulled Tina. Mid-40's, short with a bit of a pooch but decent natural big B or Small C tits. The facilities were exactly the same, but from what I could see, Tina and another therapist claiming to be from Hawaii were the only girls working. Definitely a new mamasan and no sight of the old crew. Decent TS, a rather lackluster massage and a standard Nova Finish. I left satisfied but dissapointed, as Peach was my ATF and no one there had ever dissapointed. Still wish I knew where they all went! .8 for the hour plus tip.
Roamin Roman
04-09-11, 00:16
Anyone ever been? Just moved to the area and saw that is a very easy ride for me to get to. Just curious if anyone has any experience there.But basically, before they changed management (and I changed job locations) , I used to frequent that place on a somewhat regular basis after workouts at the gym. The MMS would take care of me personally, because she knew about my shoulder. I always received a full hour and got a good, solid rubdown. If you're looking for other services, it wasn't available except on the rare one-off basis from an "entrepreneurial" therapist. Can't tell you much about the place under the current management, since I've not visited since they changed over. You Can find out, but you need to take the effort (I. E. Search) and read through the reviews. Don't expect folks to deliver info to you on a silver platter. If you're new to the area, we're willing to help, but you need to show some intiative of your own first. Happy hunting.
R:R
Roamin Roman
04-09-11, 00:39
New to the area and looking to try something out. Can anyone give me some advice on where I should go first where I can get the best service and not be treated like I am LE? I know all AMP's are relatively the same price, but I am just looking for some input from you all.
Anyone ever been? Just moved to the area and saw that is a very easy ride for me to get to. Just curious if anyone has any experience there.Just out of curiosity, Meetmehalfway6, I need to ask you something: The first query above was posted on 26 Feb 2010, more than a year ago, when you were allegedly new to this area. You made two other subsequent posts (one of 26 April 2010 in the NoVa board, and one on 30 May in the Maryland borads) before this Query, almost a year later, when you STILL claim to be new to the area. Did you move here twice? . And if you did, it's odd because you made no posts in your "old neighborhood" during the interim time.
You've had plenty of time, between your first post (more than a year ago) and your most recent one (today) , but you seem not to have used that time to do any research about this "new area" nor contribute to your "old area." You certainly don't appear to have gone out of your way to meet others on these boards "half way" either.
Care to explain, so the rest of us can feel a little more comfortable about who you may or may not be? We'll look forward to hearing from you on the open boards (no PMs, please).
R:R
Miketastic69
04-09-11, 10:07
Longtime lurker. Some may recognize me from other sites.
Visted MT this week during the middle of the week around lunchtime. MMS checked me out through the old receptionists window before coming to the door. Asked me "you know what this place is? Massagy?" Let me in and I paid. 70. MMS escorted me to the room and had me get comfy. MMS actually did the TS. I was worried because she was 60, short, and rough.
After ts she told me get comfy and relax in room, then she left. In comes a 30-ish skinny korean with huge D's (bought). She asked a lot of questions and was really talkative. Tried to get to know me a lot."OK" massage.
On the flip she massaged a bit and started to tickle me in the right spots. Then, the horrible upselling! Asked what I liked and I asked what was on the menu. We went back & forth for a bit and I settled with Nova with a lot a whole lot of roaming and probing and playing. It was a great experience. She used her tongue in places that were fantastic.
Afterwards she told me more to come next visit. Advised me to put tip on table in corner next time so she knows.
7 visit. 8tip 7appearance / 8 service.
Miketastic69
04-09-11, 10:14
2nd visit to smile. First time Sue this time it was Sunny.
Thick Korean. 30ish. Very sexy. Thick DD's and tight flat bum. .6 to get in. No TS because I had to get back to work way back near route 1, so I was in a rush. Sunny made me slow down a bit.
Massage was very light and not very good at all. I espected a heavyweight fight after my previous experience with Sue and by the thickness of Sunny, but she was lazy on the massage effort. The flip and she asked what I wanted. I asked for FS and got a resounding NO. She said everything else was on the table though. Nova finish with a lot of roaming. No fingers inside! Light kissing. Sucking on those huge perfect breasts. She positioned herself in a 69 position over me, but I don't DATY / O, but I got a great veiw and couldn't resist putting fingers deep inside (although she was originally against it when she was standing next to me). Then, she stratted me in a cg and worked her hand in a simulated cg (no entry was achieved).
Finished me off and cleaned me up. I asked if Sue still worked there and she got a little upset thinking I preferred Sue better. She said next time she make me forget all about Sue!
6. 8tip. 9appearance / 8service. Would be a 10 if FS.
Miketastic69
04-09-11, 10:24
First of all, I got the scare of my life when I walked out of there there was a panel van with 2 guys sitting there appeared to be watching the door when I came out. I just knew it was LEO and they had my tag. There not much around that place so I had no choice but to jump in my car. I deliberately drove past them and it appeared to be two guys eating lunch in the van and shooting the sh. Its been about 2-weeks and I haven't got a knock on my door so I must just be paranoid.
Drew a 20ish fit korean girl with tiny A's. She was a cute as they come. I knew this was not going to be too fun just on age and my perception of experience. TS was nice and not too much roaming. I was told to "stop you're going to get me wet!" I was put off by the attitude.
Massage was pretty good, and long. It took damn near an hour just on the massage even though the TS was nearly 20 minutes. So I am an hour and 10 minutes into the session when the flip came. She starts fingernail stroking my legs and asks. What do I want? I saide everyting. She said 1. 0 and left. She returned disrobed and pulled out plastic cake wrap. She went for a CBJ with the cake wrap. Let me roam all over and play. However there was no FS and cake wrap made me feel awkward. She finally gave up (pretty quickly) and gave me an uninspired HJ. Once she gave up she didn't want me to roam any more.
What a disappointment. The upsell was for FS and then nothing but a fake CBJ with kitchen supplies and an uninspired HJ with an attitude.
8/1. 0 9appearance / 5service
Miketastic69
04-09-11, 10:37
Saw the ads in BP and other places and thought I would give it a try. They post an address, so I was shocked when I pulled up at an apartment complex. The address on the ad was for an entire set of building so I had no clue where the place was. I went back and looked at the ad again and it gave a number. I called and they guided me to an apartment.
Nice quite aparment on the lake. Beautiful mid-20's thick girl with long braids like Heidi, but she was latina dressed in nurses scrubs like a dental technician. She had me put the fee in an envelope and drop it into a basket. 1.2 and agot comfy.
Ok massage with no roaming at all. She wore the scrubs the whole time and I could only see a figure with a beautiful face up top. On the flip, she asked if she could get comfy too. I said hell yeah! She pulled off her top and had huge DD's that were still firm from youth and a six-pack abs on top of her curvy waist and ass. I never saw a girl have a six pack abs before surrounded by such a thick body. She was perfect. However, no FS. Only a lot of roaming and an unispired HJ. Not rushed, but I could not get off because something felt off. I practically begged for FS and at that point would ahve paid any price, but FS was not on the menu (and she kept watching the door as if someone were watching). I finally got done, she washed me up and helped me get dressed. She put the scrubs back on and escorted me to the door. She gave me a dfk like I was her boyfriend at the door and said "I made her so wet!" WTF? Then why no FS? I asked her and she gave me a lame excuse in that the service was supposed to be therapeutic and what she did in providing the Nova finish could get her fired. BS!
1. 2.6 tip 10 appearance / 7service. FS would have made it a 10 on service. This chick is better looking than the picture on BP, but the service was blah!
Brutal One
04-09-11, 16:05
Saw this ad and thought it might be the Thai place why'all have been posting about. It wasnt. .
GORGEOUS THAI ASIAN bust 36-26-36, 115lbs. 5ft. Offer sensuous full body massage. Combination relaxing and relieves your stress by soft and sweet body hand magic touch. 10:30am-9:30pm.
Definitely not 115 pounds, and those are NOT her measurements. Older thai lady. Mid 40's maybe. More of a body rub than a massage. Gave a really nice ball massage along with the standard NoVa finish. All in 120. Would I repeat? Probably not. I was looking for a young hot thai girl.
I've been looking around the forum for a while, and I think I'm ready to go and try a place I've heard good things about.
Only thing thats been holding me back is that they might ask me for my I'd. I'm 21, and I don't look any younger or older than 21 but I just don't feel comfortable showing my I'd with my name and home address on it if they ask. Has anyone around my age tried this before? If not, do you think it's worth a try or will they definitely ask for proof?
Sorry if I shouldn't be posting questions without posting reviews first, I just couldn't find an answer to this anywhere else
Hi,
Welcome to Northern Virginia. How long will you be staying?
I kid.
Somewhat. Ahh Duece, I have been on this board for a long time. So you can take that patronizing shit elsewhere.
Bunker, pm me those 1. 2 choices as I always like a good massagi.
PC out
Ahh Duece, I have been on this board for a long time. So you can take that patronizing shit elsewhere.
Bunker, pm me those 1. 2 choices as I always like a good massagi.
PC outI'm sorry. I thought saying "I kid" was clue enough that I was joking.
Had the same deal (inside) last year. But didn't know how to describe the 'cake wrap'. I'll never go back.
First of all, I got the scare of my life when I walked out of there there was a panel van with 2 guys sitting there appeared to be watching the door when I came out. I just knew it was LEO and they had my tag. There not much around that place so I had no choice but to jump in my car. I deliberately drove past them and it appeared to be two guys eating lunch in the van and shooting the sh. Its been about 2-weeks and I haven't got a knock on my door so I must just be paranoid.
Drew a 20ish fit korean girl with tiny A's. She was a cute as they come. I knew this was not going to be too fun just on age and my perception of experience. TS was nice and not too much roaming. I was told to "stop you're going to get me wet!" I was put off by the attitude.
Massage was pretty good, and long. It took damn near an hour just on the massage even though the TS was nearly 20 minutes. So I am an hour and 10 minutes into the session when the flip came. She starts fingernail stroking my legs and asks. What do I want? I saide everyting. She said 1. 0 and left. She returned disrobed and pulled out plastic cake wrap. She went for a CBJ with the cake wrap. Let me roam all over and play. However there was no FS and cake wrap made me feel awkward. She finally gave up (pretty quickly) and gave me an uninspired HJ. Once she gave up she didn't want me to roam any more.
What a disappointment. The upsell was for FS and then nothing but a fake CBJ with kitchen supplies and an uninspired HJ with an attitude.
8/1. 0 9appearance / 5service
Pilot Aviator
04-09-11, 22:38
I've read how several have report falling in love with one of these really nice ladies.
Well, I'm not in love, but I have found I really like my therapist. I really look forward to my usual visits and really great massages et al. And. (although I am not partucularly gullible). I like to believe she really misses me (like she tells me she does).
The facility is not the newest. But is a very good place.
The TS. Excellent (but not as big as a Castle.
I'm treated better than a Prince. And the taste is better than a basket of Peaches, Apples, or the fruits of Asia.
The massage is much more Comfortable than a Therapeutic Massaggi.
I could go on. But I will close saying a MMS that knows my name, standard rates, the TIP is up to me.
Always be nice to the ladies.
I saw mine twice. And it is still early April.
PA.
Less talk on the amount of tips, more posts with intel. And for any that don't know where and who, it is only because you've not done any homework
Wahooboy94
04-10-11, 00:48
Having time and money to burn, I finally made it back to Papaya earlier this week after, geez, probably 6. 8 months. Last visit was very good but with my normal haunts being around Springfield, I don't get out to the Tysons area very often.
Anyway, I jet out to Papaya. Looking forward to it very much. I believe the reviews as of late have been good. Greeted by Mamasan who didn't seem terribly excited and escorts me to my room.
After 10. 15 minutes of waiting, my provider comes in. Maybe late 20s or 30s, very curvy, very pretty in my eyes and wearing a very tight and short dress. Believe her name was Haley or something along those lines.
To the shower where she gives me a fairly standard TS. Back to the room for what is actually a pretty good and strong massage. I flip over and she commences with the standard finish.
Overall, the visit was fine. I was hoping it would be higher quality. I liked Haley very much, thought she was quite lovely and delivered a very good massage. Would I go back? Maybe down the road. I don't think I'll be racing back anytime soon.
Wahooboy94
04-10-11, 01:05
Alrighty. In the past week I had hit H&H in DC (really my 1st stop. You can see the review in the DC pages) followed by Papaya in Tysons.
For #2 in VA, decided to try M&M which has been advertising on Craigslist and elsewhere I suppose. M&M is literally in my neighborhood off of Franconia which kind of surprises me since I'm use to seeing AMPs on the other side of 95.
Anyway, I hadn't seen much in the way of reviews and decided to take one for the team.
Up the steps and into the building (love a discrete entrance) where I bounded up the stairs to the main entrance. Greeted by a very nice gal at the front door. Seemed a bit young to be a mamasan. But friendly and seemed to be excited to have a customer.
Takes me to my room. Little kitchenette area along the main hallway area. Facilities look nice, fairly new and clean. I pay for an hour and wait for my provider.
In comes Gina (sp?). Gina looks a tad older (late 40s or early 50s?) but has a very nice smile and is very friendly.
To the TS. Does a nice job, cleans all the areas, dries me off and back to the room.
Massage was quite excellent. I asked for medium to strong; at times it almost hurt. Good pain I think. Anyway, excellent massage. At the end, she tells me the massage is over but gestures at "you know who" and offers to complete the session. I thank her but decline. The massage was excellent, but I had decided that would be enough and since I had the time, maybe I would visit another establishment.
Overall, great massage. As I walked out the door and got in my car, another hobbyist showed up and ran right in after me. They must be doing something right.
Wahooboy94
04-10-11, 01:14
Okay, having just left M&M but wanting more out of the experience, decided to run by NSP which I had put on my "do not visit" list for the past three months.
With my fingers crossed, I arrive at NSP where I am greeted by Tina. Takes me up and to my room. Tells me there is a new girl. I'm interested but uncertain. Tina tells me to try the new girl today. Okay.
Let me just say the "new girl" was awful. After the TS I could tell that this was not going to be a good visit. We return to the room where I thank the provider and try to explain that while I appreciated the TS, I was electing to end the visit. As I dress, Tina returns to the room concerned. I tell Tina that this was not a good visit and I had decided to leave early instead of going forward with the rest of the stay. I tell Tina to keep the house money and that I would come back at a future date. Tina offers to take my appointment but I decline and tell her not to worry, I would come back at another time.
So disappointing.
Wahooboy94
04-10-11, 01:21
This is the first time I have visited three (3) AMPs in one day. M&M, NSP than Soft Touch.
Approximately 3. 4 years ago I was a regular at Soft Touch. Oh, how I miss May and to a much lesser degree, Happy.
Anyway, I get there and am greeted by Sarah. Pretty quiet in the facility. It is the end of the day, folks are leaving the office park and Soft Touch wasn't seeing any customers at this hour.
TS setup looks the same as I remembered it. Sarah does a fine job, dries me off and back to the room.
Massage is good. Prior to the flip, a lot of teasing. If I hadn't finally turned over on my own initiative, I might still be there. Sarah took her time on the standard finish which I appreciated. Brings in the hot towels, helps me dress and tells me to come back and see her. Overall a good visit.
Scorpion King
04-10-11, 02:16
MWC is no fun anymore.
Yoyo is off on bacation.
Cindy is history.
Connie is off.
Didn't bother to go there.
Traveled West on 50:
Far East was promising.
Asked for Jennifer who is on bacation.
MMS promised to deliver someone better, but it was okie, normal massage, normal TS with roaming and standard finish. Better, but maybe I'm just too demanding. Sorry, forgot her name. I may repeat again. :/
Scorpion King
04-10-11, 02:18
Can I get any recommendation (including provider's name) in Tysons area.
Please, PM me.
Looking for a playful younger person.
Thanks in advance.
AKFourtySeven
04-10-11, 09:40
I've been looking around the forum for a while, and I think I'm ready to go and try a place I've heard good things about.
Only thing thats been holding me back is that they might ask me for my I'd. I'm 21, and I don't look any younger or older than 21 but I just don't feel comfortable showing my I'd with my name and home address on it if they ask. Has anyone around my age tried this before? If not, do you think it's worth a try or will they definitely ask for proof?
Sorry if I shouldn't be posting questions without posting reviews first, I just couldn't find an answer to this anywhere elseJust go on in. They won't ask for your ID.
Bunker Buster
04-10-11, 13:38
If anyone tried to email me about the massage posting, please resend. I'd deleted about 100 messages earlier this year, but it's easy to get back up to 200.
Made a visit today, first in a long time. Shit it was still. 6 an hr last time I went. LOL Asked for Chris from anothers recommendation. She was busy at the time so another Kgirl gave me the TS. It was ok except thw water was either too hot or too cold.
Sauna for 5 mins and into that cold ass room and waited. Well Chris walks in in a short dress, about a 5 in the face but killer legs and nice perky A / Bs through the dress. Body was a 8 or 9 but that face was oh well.
Nice massage, hot towel on back and felt good. On the flip, I asked her to straddle me and promptly I eased her thong to the side. Long lips and very clean. PC jr was happy. 8 door. 6 tip. 1.4 for a nice time although same could be had in LA / SGV for about. 6 to. 7 total. One of my faves gives me massagi, BBBJ, mish, and then bbbjcimws for. 8, yeah. 8 and she is only 26 and a very tight body. When in LA area, pm me and I will see if she wants new biz as her actual price is $1. 2 wo BBBJCIM.
I know, I know and I really don't want to hear a sermon from the choir about the pricing here in NOVA. YMMV as always wherever you go. It was my first time out in a long time and these old Mamas here have been accustomed to. 8 for a tip nowadays. You boys have spoiled them. LOL.
PC out
Hit the "new" Peach and pulled Tina. Mid-40's, short with a bit of a pooch but decent natural big B or Small C tits. The facilities were exactly the same, but from what I could see, Tina and another therapist claiming to be from Hawaii were the only girls working. Definitely a new mamasan and no sight of the old crew. Decent TS, a rather lackluster massage and a standard Nova Finish. I left satisfied but dissapointed, as Peach was my ATF and no one there had ever dissapointed. Still wish I knew where they all went! .8 for the hour plus tip.Yoyo is now at MWC.
Hobby horses,
Guy, back in town for a week (from Bangkok). Ordinarily I don't frequent the ATMBs as I'm in ATMB heaven in the land of smiles but I just arrived this weekend and didn't think I had the uumph to handle Roger's parties so I settled for a trip across the bridge.
Heard a lot about ATMB back a few years ago. Saw earlier requests for an update so decided the budget was right to TOFTT.
Called ahead (Sunday afternoon) to see if it was busy (it was not).
Arrived (later on Sunday) and don't like the parking lot (though it's behind building and discrete, but in a professional bldg on a Sunday, you're only there for one reason. So parked a few streets away and humped it over.
MMS was outside fetching something from her car so she walked me in, and into a room.
Took care of. 8 housefee. And was told to wait.
I informed her I called earlier and was told it was not busy so (hadda try) asked for a line up. No-go. Only two masseuses there.
Told to disrobe and wait. I complied, and waited 5mins. In walks Kindee. Late 30's spinner with a paunchy belly (not flabby, just a little paunch). She asked me if I was there before (I lied 'yes') and told her I'd never seen her before though. She said she was new (3 months).
So, on to business. I like to lay my tip on the table under my glasses and phone so she knows what's up.
She asked if it was housefee and I told her no, I already paid.
Massage- I like very hard massages, I live in BKK afterall, and she did her best. It was not up to BKK standards, but not bad.
No bending, nor standing on me though though. (oh well). Did some light crack / boys grazing, which was nice. Then moved from hard to soft touch. Then flip, and more soft touch. Asked what else I wanted. I gave suggestions and FS was out.
Recv'd body rub, with a tongue bath and NOVA HE with mutual touching in / out. I don't release easy so she gave her full attention (two hands) until relax. Not bad. Xtra. 8 tip.
Kindee- 6/7 body 6/7 face 6/7 service.
I don't come to DC area enough to repeat, but she was nice enough. Said she'll be around for a while until she makes enough money to move along.
Cheers-
Guy
Oxgang Here
04-10-11, 22:41
If you're paying. 8 then tipping. 8 in a spa, you're just paying too much for something that's available for less, and at higher quality. There are a number of superb trained masseuses who give an excellent therapeutic deep-tissue massage, with an appropriate finish, charge 1. 2 complete, with are no worries about whether you'll get shorted on time.
Trusted seniors (including those I've argued with) can PM me for a few recommendations. I have seen Lisa, tina, Carrie, June and Virginia all meet your description above though Lisa, tina and Carrie are more engaging. Any other suggestions?
If you have not met her Lani is good.
Rose in Herndon gives a great massage but no luck progressing with her.
Yoyo is now at MWC.NTX,
Are you stalking Yoyo man? Thats all you ever write about or are you Yoyos pimp, LOL.
Share why Yoyo is the shit will you?
PC out
Wayward One
04-11-11, 11:51
Anyone have info on this provider?
http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/east-meets-westjune-571-437-1135/4450714
I posted a review last September in the craigslist reviews section. This is NOT an AMP. RTFF.
Wayward One
Computer Luvvv
04-11-11, 12:50
Anyone having any issues with sending out reports or replys to DC massage reports?
Computer Luvvv
04-11-11, 12:59
NTX,
Are you stalking Yoyo man? Thats all you ever write about or are you Yoyos pimp, LOL.
Share why Yoyo is the shit will you?
PC outYes sir.
Miketastic69
04-11-11, 18:36
I've read how several have report falling in love with one of these really nice ladies.
Well, I'm not in love, but I have found I really like my therapist. I really look forward to my usual visits and really great massages et al. And. (although I am not partucularly gullible). I like to believe she really misses me (like she tells me she does).
The facility is not the newest. But is a very good place.
The TS. Excellent (but not as big as a Castle.
I'm treated better than a Prince. And the taste is better than a basket of Peaches, Apples, or the fruits of Asia.
The massage is much more Comfortable than a Therapeutic Massaggi.
I could go on. But I will close saying a MMS that knows my name, standard rates, the TIP is up to me.
Always be nice to the ladies.
I saw mine twice. And it is still early April.
PA.
Less talk on the amount of tips, more posts with intel. And for any that don't know where and who, it is only because you've not done any homeworkPA,
I know I'm not in lov but I think about Soo or Sue at. In the Dulles area every day. I didn't get FS or anything, but my experience was great. If you ever go there and draw Soo be nice to her!
Miketastic69
04-11-11, 18:52
Ahh Duece, I have been on this board for a long time. So you can take that patronizing shit elsewhere.
Bunker, pm me those 1. 2 choices as I always like a good massagi.
PC outI'm jelous as hell that you get to live in the Sunshine out in Cali. Make sure you try Rose Garden and Lily. When I was there they both had chicks from Honolulu. There must be suomthing in the aloha water because both of them (I think angel and lani) were so damn tight!
If you get to San Fran the Green door is the spot. I walked up freaking hill to get there. I needed a dam massage when I made the trek. It was worth it. I was offered BBFS (I passed, but its rare nowadays).
LV off Sahara there is a nail shop & tanning store that advertises after hours massages on BP and in the smut rags you get in the newspaper stands. This place is like a mini sheris ranch or chickn ranch! The coolest thing I ever did was FS on a tanning bed. Your batter "glows." They actually bring you in and check you out to see if you're cool, then you can pic your provider. I picked a thick australian chick and pretended I was the crocodile hunter! By far, the best looking crew of providers I've seen this side of Bangkok or Manila. (or Rio, or Santiago, or Oranjestad, or outside the AFB in Guam).
Happy hunting.
LoveAsianQ
04-12-11, 18:09
Went to the fuzzy fruit, Chanel, wanted it up front but was worth it. Above NOVA service. Intoduced me to the other ladies, first time that's happened. Standard tip excellent service
After several posts / recommendations, I finally decided to try Spa Castle.
My provider for the last couple times was BeBe. Nice body and good looking, bolt ons, appeared to be the youngest. Maybe 30s. TS, Massage (not my purpose) and my real reason were good.
The first time, she offered to change providers. No. The second time, she switched providers after the TS (I made an appointment). I refused and got dressed, so BeBe returned & followed through well. At the end, she pushed to up the tip. I won't return. YMMV, so don't take this as a negative review, as much as just a caution.
Just avg.
Avg (older looking masseuse with avg frame) despite the fact I asked her to repeat her name SEVERAL times, it was some innocuous Korean name I STILL can't remember (sorry) mainly because everything was avg anyway.
Nice (playful) TS,
Nice (hard) massage, hit all the spots, almost too therapeutic.
Flip and light touch were lackluster, and HE was clothed (no touch).
So took longer than typical to relax.
In the end, just avg, resulting in avg tip.
8 to house.
4 to masseuse (mainly for good massage)
On to the next one
Greetings. I have been a long time reader but have now decided to give back to the forum. I have been hobbying for years now so I have seen a lot and know a lot. I want to give a lot of useful information and save the detailed stuff for PM's. So for my first post I thought I would give two reports.
Green & Well in 7 Corners.
I found this place on BP and its on my way home from work so I thought I would give it a try. I didn't phone ahead, I just walked in. It was around 3pm and the parking lot was pretty active with cars going in and out, and its worse on Saturdays. The place is on the second floor to the left of a Doctors office. I was just hoping that no one would come out of the doctor's office before I could get in the parlor.
A nice looking K girl answered the door, upper 30's. 6/10 in looks, but nice body and B-cups. She was wearing a tank top with no bra and jeans but again her body was nice, she looked good in them. She said her name was MJ. She had a huge tatoo on her arm (which she later admitted she regret getting and wanted to get it removed.) I opted for the hour and paid the house fee and disrobed. At first she seemed a bit out there, she talked a lot which was nice because it broke the ice, so thats just her personality and she turned out to be pretty funny as well. TS was nice and lasted more than 10 minutes. She was very thorough and made sure all the right places were squeaky clean.
Back to the room, she gave one of the best massages I have received in a while. I decided to give her an extra. 2 just for the massage. She cracked my back, my neck and just did a great job all around. There was no back walking though. Before the flip came the negotiations. I hate this part because it can really kill the mood. I asked for everything but she turned me down but told me what she would do and prices and instructions on how to present the money (trusted senior members can PM me for details). I took the. 40 route for standard NOVA finish which I got some extras which was nice. She lowered her top and more would come off for more money but I stuck with the. 40. No nursing was allowed, but her technique was good and I was happy and relaxed afterwards. She finished out the session with more back massage and head massage and she helped me get dressed and I was out in 55 minutes. She told me as I was leaving that next time would be better, which I find they say all of the time. Damage was. 8 and I gave her. 6 because the massage was awesome and I got a little extra on the finish. As always the curiosity got the better of me so I wanted to try her out again and see if this would be true. I called the following Thursday to make an appointment with MJ but was told she was not working, which was the same the next day and when I went there on Saturday the place wasn't open when I went around 10:15 am. So I decided to head out to Tysons.
Juicy Fruit in Tysons.
The funny thing about this place is that I always drive by here and I never knew it was even there. The parking lot was practically empty and I parked in the way back. From where I parked I went down the middle of the buildings when I should have just gone to the right and the place was right there. After walking all the way around, I finally went in. Mama let me in and took me to the room. I opted for the half hour and I asked to see the lineup but she said all girls were busy so I got Cindy. I would give her face a 5 and her body an 8. She was wearing a tight short dress and was going commando (as I discovered later) which seemed promising at first. I am not sure if you get TS for a half hour session at this place but she offered me one so I accepted. Half way through Mama yelled something to her in Korean and she apologized to me and told me that half hours do not get TS. So she rinsed me and we go back to the room. So from the get go she asks how much I am going to give her. I give her the price breakdown for certain services and she turned down the. 80 and higher so we agree on. 40 for standard. Now by this time its only been about 7-10 minutes, you could hear people being hustled out and the doorbell has rung like 3 times in this time period. I just knew I was going to get shorted on time. I did not get a massage at all in the beginning, she just did a soft touch for a few minutes and then asked me to turn over. At this point she got up on the table and straddled my leg in which I felt something nice. So I proceeded to give her some finger bang action and she went into a wardrobe change that you normally would wear on your birthday. She did not allow me to nurse, but she let me finish on her nice B-cups. After clean up she put hot towels on my back and neck and gave me a nice massage to finish out the 30 minutes which surprised me. I will definitely try this place again.
Saw this ad and thought it might be the Thai place why'all have been posting about. It wasnt. .
GORGEOUS THAI ASIAN bust 36-26-36, 115lbs. 5ft. Offer sensuous full body massage. Combination relaxing and relieves your stress by soft and sweet body hand magic touch. 10:30am-9:30pm.
Definitely not 115 pounds, and those are NOT her measurements. Older thai lady. Mid 40's maybe. More of a body rub than a massage. Gave a really nice ball massage along with the standard NoVa finish. All in 120. Would I repeat? Probably not. I was looking for a young hot thai girl. MMS works on fri / sat / sun / mon. Sunny is what you are looking for, tues / wed / thur!
MnV
Oasis location has been around for along time (under various names) and thought I'd check it out again for kicks. Basically it's a one K-Gal show. Sue is an older provider, but has a decent body and a huge rack. While maybe not the best for looks, she knows how to massage. Very friendly and she used hot stones and oil as part of the massage! Very nice touch finishing actually with hydro-therapy with a soapy NOVA thrown in. Non-rushed hour for standard NOVA prices. It's located on Rte 1 just south of Rte 234 / Exit 152 in a little strip mall across from KFC.
Tell her Carl sent you.
Had the same deal (inside) last year. But didn't know how to describe the 'cake wrap'. I'll never go back.I concur Volvo S40, the plastic saran wrap thingy completely turned me off. Everything else was okay; the TS, the massage, the girls, the service. I have never been back there since last year, and as long as I hear about this practice continuing, I'm forever staying away. That's just me.
Wahooboy94
04-13-11, 23:06
One of the best AMP visits I've ever had.
I've been a semi-regular at CTM for almost 3 years now. My provider of choice has always been Sarah and whenever I go, it's like seeing a good friend.
This past Sunday Sarah was not in. For a half second, I thought about going somewhere else but decided to press on with the visit.
My provider was Yumi. Never met her before and assumed she must be new. Yumi is probably mid- to late-30s, cute but heavyset (which I like). Very friendly right off the bat.
TS may have been the best I've ever had. Water was hot, soap was sudsy. Not only did Yumi scrub me down good (not a spot missed) but she literally gave me a massage in the shower room as well. It was terrific. Dries me off, back to the room.
Massage was very good. I asked for medium. Probably should have asked for a stronger massage. Anyway, a good massage that was extremely playful. Relaxing and fun. Finish was NOVA standard, but once again, terrific. By the time the visit was over, I had easily stayed beyond one hour.
I will be back sooner than later and I hope Yumi will be there too!
DamianJameson
04-14-11, 01:50
Lookin for info or opinions on pine tree or M&M which is better? Headin that way tomorrow and was hoping to have a good time.
Roamin Roman
04-14-11, 19:42
Lookin for info or opinions on pine tree or M&M which is better? Headin that way tomorrow and was hoping to have a good time.I won't reply with the RTFF, but if you read back a few pages' worth of reports you'll be able to know the scoop on M&M, Pine Tree, and others. But, since everyone's mileage can vary at an AMP on a given day or night, TOFTT and visit either (or both) of these places and then report back.
Try either of them or, even better, BOTH and repost back!
JJ.
Lookin for info or opinions on pine tree or M&M which is better? Headin that way tomorrow and was hoping to have a good time.
I've been looking around the forum for a while, and I think I'm ready to go and try a place I've heard good things about.
Only thing thats been holding me back is that they might ask me for my I'd. I'm 21, and I don't look any younger or older than 21 but I just don't feel comfortable showing my I'd with my name and home address on it if they ask. Has anyone around my age tried this before? If not, do you think it's worth a try or will they definitely ask for proof?
Sorry if I shouldn't be posting questions without posting reviews first, I just couldn't find an answer to this anywhere elseIf you are not married, or in relationship and you don't have to hide anything why worry? Do you feel uncomfortable when you're asked to show I'd to buy alcohol or cigarettes? At your age you should be out there spending money on one night stands, not on getting a HJ from woman your mothers (grandmothers) age. Your choice.
First of all, I got the scare of my life when I walked out of there there was a panel van with 2 guys sitting there appeared to be watching the door when I came out. I just knew it was LEO and they had my tag. There not much around that place so I had no choice but to jump in my car. I deliberately drove past them and it appeared to be two guys eating lunch in the van and shooting the sh. Its been about 2-weeks and I haven't got a knock on my door so I must just be paranoid.
Drew a 20ish fit korean girl with tiny A's. She was a cute as they come. I knew this was not going to be too fun just on age and my perception of experience. TS was nice and not too much roaming. I was told to "stop you're going to get me wet!" I was put off by the attitude.
Massage was pretty good, and long. It took damn near an hour just on the massage even though the TS was nearly 20 minutes. So I am an hour and 10 minutes into the session when the flip came. She starts fingernail stroking my legs and asks. What do I want? I saide everyting. She said 1. 0 and left. She returned disrobed and pulled out plastic cake wrap. She went for a CBJ with the cake wrap. Let me roam all over and play. However there was no FS and cake wrap made me feel awkward. She finally gave up (pretty quickly) and gave me an uninspired HJ. Once she gave up she didn't want me to roam any more.
What a disappointment. The upsell was for FS and then nothing but a fake CBJ with kitchen supplies and an uninspired HJ with an attitude.
8/1. 0 9appearance / 5serviceFirst how did you figure the girl was in her 20ies. Have you ever seen Korean girl in her 20ies? You and many others would be surprised. Huge difference between real and dream. Second I used to get same service from Coco over at former Bay, first time I was like WTF, but next few times it was good. I never really liked the smell of rubber and I'm sure many ladies do not like the taste either. Next time before you (and others) complaint, put rubber over banana and try to stick it up your mouth and then do same with the wrap. Try not to be so selfish as many here tend to be.
By the way, visited one of my used to be favorite places in Tysons, got "long time no see" and one of the greatest services ever.
I'm jelous as hell that you get to live in the Sunshine out in Cali. Make sure you try Rose Garden and Lily. When I was there they both had chicks from Honolulu. There must be suomthing in the aloha water because both of them (I think angel and lani) were so damn tight!
If you get to San Fran the Green door is the spot. I walked up freaking hill to get there. I needed a dam massage when I made the trek. It was worth it. I was offered BBFS (I passed, but its rare nowadays).
LV off Sahara there is a nail shop & tanning store that advertises after hours massages on BP and in the smut rags you get in the newspaper stands. This place is like a mini sheris ranch or chickn ranch! The coolest thing I ever did was FS on a tanning bed. Your batter "glows." They actually bring you in and check you out to see if you're cool, then you can pic your provider. I picked a thick australian chick and pretended I was the crocodile hunter! By far, the best looking crew of providers I've seen this side of Bangkok or Manila. (or Rio, or Santiago, or Oranjestad, or outside the AFB in Guam).
Happy hunting. Mike,
Let me know about this place in Vegas your talking about. I have been there and lived there for years but never heard of it. PM me please.
PC out
My first time at Smile. Was asked the usual question about if I had been there before and I said yes, but probably I was not recognized. Was given table shower by mamasan and she started my massage. I was saying to myself. Oh well, but then she told me to wait for 10 minutes and left the room. Afterwards Ann came in. She is maybe 30 something and 7 in the looks department. The massage was good. On the flip she asked me the dreaded question. How much do you have. I probably overpayed by a bit, standard NOVA finish. She pulled her top up and bottom down. I roamed freely on the top including nursing but there was not much access on the bottom as she said I was tickling her. She was small and youthful on the top and the nips stood to attention. She hinted that the next visit could be better.
DamianJameson
04-15-11, 02:50
On my way to M&M to try my luck get to 66 off 495 and damn engine blows in my car so I guess til thats repaired little reports from me on the no va side of things.
Phaik Naim
04-15-11, 15:07
I don't see any reports on this place, at least not in recognizable format. They have been advertising on CL forever. Could be a legit place, but something makes me think maybe not. Any intel would be most appreciated.
I don't see any reports on this place, at least not in recognizable format. They have been advertising on CL forever. Could be a legit place, but something makes me think maybe not. Any intel would be most appreciated.Whittier Ave? Probably legit. There aren't too many discreet locations in that part of McLean, and people aren't too shy about calling LE for something fishy.
If you are not married, or in relationship and you don't have to hide anything why worry? Do you feel uncomfortable when you're asked to show I'd to buy alcohol or cigarettes? At your age you should be out there spending money on one night stands, not on getting a HJ from woman your mothers (grandmothers) age. Your choice.Cigarettes and alcohol aren't illegal, so no, I'm totally fine with showing my I'd for them. But this is more like showing my I'd to my drug dealer, and I don't want my dealer knowing where I live. Anyway for the age thing I was looking for someone in early 20's but that's very hard to find in NOVA. I like to try new things, and didn't plan on making this a habit, but I guess Vegas or New York would be a better place for this kind of thing. Sorry I didn't fit your desc. Of an average 21 year old.
On my way to M&M to try my luck get to 66 off 495 and damn engine blows in my car so I guess til thats repaired little reports from me on the no va side of things.Thanks for sharing that wealth of info there. Perhaps we can all pitch in for a rebuilt engine for you Damian.
PC out
Miketastic69
04-16-11, 09:28
Mike,
Let me know about this place in Vegas your talking about. I have been there and lived there for years but never heard of it. PM me please.
PC outWhen I was in Vegas I found it on BP under "bodyrubs." They advertise Bodyrub and Tanning. I will search the Vegas BP and post the link. By far, the best place I've been in Vegas without going out to Pahrump. I am ready to book my next trip out there. A lot of fun to be had in that city.
There is also a new place near Target and the Mall in town. Its off a street like Tropicana. I will search it out for you too. It was pretty good with FS and a rainbow of providers from "shaka zulu" to "nordic princess" and every color in between.
Ahhhhh Vegas!
Miketastic69
04-16-11, 09:30
First how did you figure the girl was in her 20ies. Have you ever seen Korean girl in her 20ies? You and many others would be surprised. Huge difference between real and dream. Second I used to get same service from Coco over at former Bay, first time I was like WTF, but next few times it was good. I never really liked the smell of rubber and I'm sure many ladies do not like the taste either. Next time before you (and others) complaint, put rubber over banana and try to stick it up your mouth and then do same with the wrap. Try not to be so selfish as many here tend to be.
By the way, visited one of my used to be favorite places in Tysons, got "long time no see" and one of the greatest services ever.Dude. 2 tours in Korea. Hooooaaah! I think I know how to "guestimate" their ages. I can understand that it could be difficult for some and even me sometimes, but altoghether have spent nearly 4years in Osan Pusan and Seoul. Wish I could go back before I throw my boots over a telephone line.
Far East was advertising new mgmt so decided to check it out again.
Bunch of cars out front and did consider leaving but of course that didn't happen.
8 for house fee, mama said wait 10 minutes I said only 10 minutes.
20 minutes later I started to dress but "Princess" knocked on door and entered.
I should have left.
She was beautiful and pleasant
But nothing spectacular about massage or TS.
And roaming was extremely limited.
Pilot Aviator
04-16-11, 19:35
I found his post from Sunday (below) unbelieveable. As a long time CTM client, no one has ever been close to providing me as fine a visit as MMS (Sara). I thought to myself "WB must be mistaken". My thoughts were SO WRONG!
Yumi is not a spinner (so if that is your specialty, don't make it a problem for her). Yumi is a superb provider.
Since every detail of WB's report was 100% accurate, I posted it below.
Go see Yumi. And be nice to this very nice lady.
PA.
One of the best AMP visits I've ever had.
I've been a semi-regular at CTM for almost 3 years now. My provider of choice has always been Sarah and whenever I go, it's like seeing a good friend.
This past Sunday Sarah was not in. For a half second, I thought about going somewhere else but decided to press on with the visit.
My provider was Yumi. Never met her before and assumed she must be new. Yumi is probably mid- to late-30s, cute but heavyset (which I like). Very friendly right off the bat.
TS may have been the best I've ever had. Water was hot, soap was sudsy. Not only did Yumi scrub me down good (not a spot missed) but she literally gave me a massage in the shower room as well. It was terrific. Dries me off, back to the room.
Massage was very good. I asked for medium. Probably should have asked for a stronger massage. Anyway, a good massage that was extremely playful. Relaxing and fun. Finish was NOVA standard, but once again, terrific. By the time the visit was over, I had easily stayed beyond one hour.
I will be back sooner than later and I hope Yumi will be there too!
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