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Brahmabull
05-04-10, 21:44
Since you are willing to overpay for what you get, this area will always get the lesser of quality.
Ypu are still under the principle that the newer girls have a choice where they go....


If this market was overpaying it would be flooded with talent.
They do have a choice, and they aren't comming where there is no money.

Why do keep insisting people are overpaying here?

Why would this area get lesser quality if it actually did overpay? That makes no sense.

It is if you think spa owners are sitting back saying "Lets not bring any young girls to the DC/MD/VA market, the suckers there overpay for the 40+ girls".
Do you not see how silly this sounds?

A John
05-04-10, 22:05
I see we agree on this one :)


If this market was overpaying it would be flooded with talent.
They do have a choice, and they aren't comming where there is no money.

Why do keep insisting people are overpaying here?

Why would this area get lesser quality if it actually did overpay? That makes no sense.

It is if you think spa owners are sitting back saying "Lets not bring any young girls to the DC/MD/VA market, the suckers there overpay for the 40+ girls".
Do you not see how silly this sounds?

You mean they don`t like being fucked 7-10 times a day by fat, stinky, ballheaded older men?

I is realy not worth the time talking with "clueless" people



Yeah, because these girls are really sex slaves right?

You're so clueless it's not even funny anymore. The girls come when there's money. They go when there is no money. It's as simple as that.

Your stupid stingy ass isn't willing to repeat with a girl you consider better than the more expensive escorts because... YOU'RE A CHEAPSKATE OVER TWENTY DOLLARS.

I asked her if she was ever coming back to DC, and she said NO.

I asked, was it because of the police?

And she said NO, she said the customers were weird and stingy. And she's pretty much talking about people like YOU.

Sleazebum
05-04-10, 22:54
Change the channel!!

This movie is getting old!!

New subject PLEASE!

JJ

A John
05-05-10, 05:25
I knew you would be in soon, are we hittin that nerve again.......


Change the channel!!
This movie is getting old!!
New subject PLEASE!JJ


Your one of the ones she is referring too





I asked her if she was ever coming back to DC, and she said NO.

I asked, was it because of the police?

And she said NO, she said the customers were weird and stingy. And she's pretty much talking about people like YOU.

Sleazebum
05-05-10, 09:29
My what is one of the ones? Time for another English lesson it seems:

Main Entry: your
Pronunciation: \yər, ˈyu̇r, ˈyȯr\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English ēower; akin to Old English ēow you — more at you
Date: before 12th century
1 : of or relating to you or yourself or yourselves especially as possessor or possessors <your bodies>, agent or agents <your contributions>, or object or objects of an action <your discharge>
2 : of or relating to one or oneself <when you face the north, east is at your right>
3 —used with little or no meaning almost as an equivalent to the definite article the <your typical teenager>

What are you going on about?

JJ



I knew you would be in soon, are we hittin that nerve again.......




Your one of the ones she is referring too

Hofi35
05-05-10, 09:59
Boring, all of you.

Fatpig
05-05-10, 10:12
Yeah can we move more towards reviews and less towards english/ american lessons as I don't give a shit about typos in grammar.


Visited June, an indie. Best massage I have received since being in Hong Kong. Very deep and sometimes painful but next day I felt GREAT. She was unable to get rid of two muscle groups but loosened them.

She nice to talk to, friendly had has good flipz. No rush and very relaxed going. She is a bit older than her low rez photo though.

Justforme
05-05-10, 18:04
Good idea, moving one

Justforme
05-05-10, 18:11
Yes, moving on

Nikos2
05-05-10, 22:49
I just got back from a rather good finish. My spot is close to Green. I am so happy that place got busted. Green was was a good place in the early days but then it then like the other establishments it got careless greedy and simply sloppy The quality sufferred and I simply stopped going. My new spot no table shower but everything else seems to make up for that. Best of all they gave me a good old fashion panty job to end the session.

Black Coffee
05-06-10, 05:37
Green. I am so happy that place got busted.Jesus Chrysler!

Never ever say that! Your stock just dropped through the floor with me.

Brahmabull
05-06-10, 07:56
I am so happy that place got busted. .


Please go a way and never return. This hobby does not need people who get happy when a place gets closed.

This hobby has enough challenges, and people in it should not be happy in any way that a place gets closed down.

As a 1st post on the site and as a contribution in general, it was not worthy of posting. It says nothing useful, nothing insightful, nothing that contributes to the purpose of this forum.

So either do better or disappear, I vote for disappear we have enough bad people in this hobby already bringing it down, we do not need anyone who is happy a place was closed.

/end rant

Nikos2
05-06-10, 11:59
Damn, I should just said I had a bad OPINION about Green and didn't like the place. I didn't mean to add salt on the wound for those people that actually like the place. I have posted on this board probably once every 3 months. I guess it doesn't really matter because half of the material on this board is about tipping anyway.

Let me ask you guys? How many of you have been to a Russian massage parlor they are not in Virginia per say? However, they are a dime of dozen in Brooklyn. If you go to Brighton Beach they are all over the place. I will just leave it at that. You guys keep talking about tips, most of the crap here is useless anyway. The panty job did happen.

MassLover
05-06-10, 12:29
I just got back from a rather good finish. My spot is close to Green. I am so happy that place got busted. Green was was a good place in the early days but then it then like the other establishments it got careless greedy and simply sloppy The quality sufferred and I simply stopped going. My new spot no table shower but everything else seems to make up for that. Best of all they gave me a good old fashion panty job to end the session.

I am not sure he is complete wrong. Before Green, it was Angel Therapy, which was a relatively quiet place. When Green took over, they started to offer FS, first at a reasonable price. Then, they got really busy, and begun to upsell like no tomorrow. Sloppy and dirty then follow. As greed feeds greed, it was a matter of time to go bust. Should one be happy about its bust? That is a totally different thing.

Justforme
05-06-10, 17:56
You and Nikos2 better watch out for what you complain about. You are now complaining about costs and upselling, you will be branded a cheapskate by the communists on this board.

Stop whinning and pay what is demanded of you. No matter how bad the service is just say it was worth it and the grandmamasan did a good job!



I am not sure he is complete wrong. Before Green, it was Angel Therapy, which was a relatively quiet place. When Green took over, they started to offer FS, first at a reasonable price. Then, they got really busy, and begun to upsell like no tomorrow. Sloppy and dirty then follow. As greed feeds greed, it was a matter of time to go bust. Should one be happy about its bust? That is a totally different thing.

Sleazebum
05-06-10, 18:09
Visited Blue again yesterday. Another truly GREAT session!!

Go see for yourself!

JJ

Brahmabull
05-06-10, 18:18
I have posted on this board probably once every 3 months.
.

Actually if you look at that little number under your user name it says you have posted exactly 2 times. Not once every three months.

Both of those have been in the past 24 hours.

Brahmabull
05-06-10, 18:23
You and Nikos2 better watch out for what you complain about. You are now complaining about costs and upselling, you will be branded a cheapskate by the communists on this board.

Stop whinning and pay what is demanded of you. No matter how bad the service is just say it was worth it and the grandmamasan did a good job!


No one said pay what is demanded of you. We just keep telling you all to stop bitching about the 40s something providers in this market when all you are willing to give up is $ for FS.

If you want young and attractive, go to some other markets and realize those hotties get $.4 You may not like it but that is the economics of it. Young and hot can make more money then older and average every day of the week and twice on Sunday. They will go where people will pay it. Period.

So as long anyone's budget for their FS experience is locked down at $, they need to STFU about quality. That is all.

Dr Bombay
05-06-10, 20:52
I just got back from a rather good finish. My spot is close to Green. I am so happy that place got busted. Green was was a good place in the early days but then it then like the other establishments it got careless greedy and simply sloppy The quality sufferred and I simply stopped going. My new spot no table shower but everything else seems to make up for that. Best of all they gave me a good old fashion panty job to end the session.Bird Droppings back already?

MassLover
05-06-10, 21:51
Stop whinning and pay what is demanded of you. No matter how bad the service is just say it was worth it and the grandmamasan did a good job!

What?

Are we talking about commercial sex or making love with wife or girl friend?

Sleazebum
05-06-10, 22:21
PLEASE!

STFU ABOUT PRICING!!! Why do we have to keep chewing on this worthless subject?

LET IT GO!!

Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!

We have taken a great forum and tore it down to where it is nothing more than a petty pissing contest!

Knock it off and get back on track!

SHEESH!!!!

JJ

TanithMagna
05-06-10, 23:32
I have not posted before but have lurked a long time here, I will start posting about my experiences in the DC area. I do agree with Sleazebum that the reason why we all read[ this forum is to exchange information about AMPS, not to flame each other. Can we focus on that?


PLEASE!

STFU ABOUT PRICING!!! Why do we have to keep chewing on this worthless subject?

LET IT GO!!

Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!

We have taken a great forum and tore it down to where it is nothing more than a petty pissing contest!

Knock it off and get back on track!

SHEESH!!!!

JJ

Volvos40
05-07-10, 06:04
There must be 4 AMPs on this road. Any one that has the better girls? I know,. That's relative. Younger maybe, but frisky? All of the CL ads have the same pics these days, young thin korean models. Appreciate any feedback. Also, looks like Papaya changed it's name, or has two names? Any reviews from there?

Brahmabull
05-07-10, 07:50
Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!




Pricing and quality are EXACTLY the information that is SUPPOSED to be exchanged on this site.

Your last review of Blue was 1 line and pretty much useless. If this is what reviews around here amount to, that is far more harmful to the survival of this site then honest discussions about price effecting quality.

Since you are on the side that disagrees you want the discussion to end, that is not a discussion that is someone saying "I will say my opinion, but when it comes time to hear a different opinion, I won't listen or I will turn away or ask that the discussion be ended."

If you can't participate in the discussion and hear all sides, then just do not participate, if you want to change the topic and attention to something else, then write a good quality detailed review that will mean something to the members of this forum.

But you are 100% wrong if you think discussions about tipping and quality and how tipping effects quality do not belong on this site. They absolutely are what this site is about.

Upforamp
05-07-10, 14:54
There must be 4 AMPs on this road. Any one that has the better girls? I know,. That's relative. Younger maybe, but frisky? All of the CL ads have the same pics these days, young thin korean models. Appreciate any feedback. Also, looks like Papaya changed it's name, or has two names? Any reviews from there?it's been a long while since I've gone there. Probably 2005 or so. There were two at the time. Industrial place that's better on Weekend not in the middle of the week day.

Ginger Man
05-07-10, 19:40
PLEASE!

STFU ABOUT PRICING!!! Why do we have to keep chewing on this worthless subject?

LET IT GO!!

Get back to the REASON we are here and quit WASTING time and bandwidth on useless crap!

We have taken a great forum and tore it down to where it is nothing more than a petty pissing contest!

Knock it off and get back on track!

SHEESH!!!!

JJ

Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.

I need to get back to NSP.........

Banker Boy
05-07-10, 20:01
I went back to K Accupressure and saw Yumi. Yumi is a mid 30s korean girl with generous breasts and hips, but generally attractive below the waist. I put a hundred dollar bill on top of my clothes but underneath my cell phone. Standard TS in the mildew-strung room that K has had for longer than some of you have been alive. Went back to the room for a brief and generally bad massage. She had strong hands which was kind of good as she went up and down the pressure points on my spine. But overall, she's no masseuse. Not more than 15 minutes later (I had paid for an hour), the lights went down, the light touches happened, and. Here's the surprise. Her shirt was off and she was rubbing my ass and lower back with her titties routines. She then got on top of me fully an whispered into my ear, "what kind of service today? " I answered, "full service". She said something I didn't understand, but it was interrogative, so I answered, "everything".

Then she got up and said, "you take care of me first", which was a new one for me. So I got off the table, handed her the hundred dollar bill plus the 20 in change from the 80 dollar house charge, and the fun began. She took off all her clothes, turned the lights down, and began to give me a BBBJ. I told her there was plenty of time left, so let's take it slow. I'm not going to share the rest of what happened (my sex life, not yours), but she was very willing to do whatever I wanted, and I enjoyed the full service my pleasant attitude and 120 greenbacks bought.

All-in-all, a wonderful, reenergizing way to start the weekend!

Best regards,

Banker Boy

Nikos2
05-07-10, 21:03
Bird Droppings back already?Don't know what that means. But I am greek [Deleted by Admin].

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.

Funkey
05-07-10, 23:20
[QUOTE=Banker Boy]I went back to K Accupressure and saw Yumi.

Omega0003
05-08-10, 01:44
If you don't know what to tip and you don't know how to use the search button, then you need to throw your money away.
Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.

I need to get back to NSP.........

Sleazebum
05-08-10, 09:58
nuff said

JJ


Pricing and quality are EXACTLY the information that is SUPPOSED to be exchanged on this site.

Your last review of Blue was 1 line and pretty much useless. If this is what reviews around here amount to, that is far more harmful to the survival of this site then honest discussions about price effecting quality.

Since you are on the side that disagrees you want the discussion to end, that is not a discussion that is someone saying "I will say my opinion, but when it comes time to hear a different opinion, I won't listen or I will turn away or ask that the discussion be ended."

If you can't participate in the discussion and hear all sides, then just do not participate, if you want to change the topic and attention to something else, then write a good quality detailed review that will mean something to the members of this forum.

But you are 100% wrong if you think discussions about tipping and quality and how tipping effects quality do not belong on this site. They absolutely are what this site is about.

Nikos2
05-08-10, 10:41
I have not posted before but have lurked a long time here, I will start posting about my experiences in the DC area. I do agree with Sleazebum that the reason why we all read[ this forum is to exchange information about AMPs, not to flame each other. Can we focus on that?I can totally relate to DC. During the Clinton years I think DC had its own AMP bubble! Seriously everywhere you went there where AMPs. I remember, two right above a strip club and if those where busy then just turn the corner onto Connecticut there was one above a Tattoo Parlor. I also remember get drunk at an Eye Street bar and go upstairs to get taken care. However, the best where all near Ford Theater. One was above a Popeye's place stunk like a dead animal when climbing the stairwell. My favorite place was diagonal from that one above a souvenir store. I swear I lived there for 3 summers. The girls were all in their 20's and they took good care of you. I know after 9/11 the party ended. Aschcroft closed all of them down due to the terrorist human trafficking risk. But it was a great time while it lasted. PM let me know if things are hoping again.

Brahmabull
05-08-10, 13:04
nuff said

JJIf I proved your point then you must have changed your position.

Good for you for having an open mind and reversing your thoughts on the subject and accepting that quality is impacted amount the market is willing to pay.

Brahmabull
05-08-10, 13:06
Aschcroft closed all of them down due to the terrorist human trafficking risk..I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.

Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.

Jimmy Luv
05-08-10, 13:12
I know this bust was reported here, but this story mentions how this board was used in the investigation:

http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/police_bust_sterling_massage_parlor747/

Nikos2
05-08-10, 15:52
I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.

Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.You're just jaded because you missed out on all the fun. Also, you are just parsing words.

Trafficking that involves interstate commerce which is a federal offense. The laws regarding the spa fall under local jurisidiction. You can parse it anyway you want.

If the feds are pursuing a federal case they will coordinate with the local authorities to arrest the suspects which effectively will means the spa will be shutdown.

If the spa is closed by the local authorities and they suspect human trafficking they will appoint the case to the federal government.

After 9/11 they raided most of the spas in DC. The federal government was cracking down. What's next the chicken or the egg?

Nikos2
05-08-10, 15:54
I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.

Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.You're just jaded because you missed out on all the fun. Also, you are just parsing words.

Trafficking that involves interstate commerce which is a federal offense. The laws regarding the spa fall under local jurisidiction. You can parse it anyway you want.

If the feds are pursuing a federal case they will coordinate with the local authorities to arrest the suspects which effectively will means the spa will be shutdown.

If the spa is closed by the local authorities and they suspect human trafficking they will appoint the case to the federal government.

After 9/11 they raided most of the spas in DC. The federal government was cracking down. What's next the chicken or the egg?

Sleazebum
05-08-10, 16:25
You, Sir, have proven yourself to be unworthy of further comment. My withdrawing from the discussion has nothing to do with who may have "won" or "lost" the discussion. I always have and always will pay exactly what I want to pay for the services I get and I can only assume that you will do the same.

So, to prevent you from looking more like a jackass I strongly suggest you drop the subject.

FINALLY and I do mean FINALLY - you are wrong in your views and I will not now, nor probably EVER, weaken to accept your opinion as anything near worthy of further discussion.

This is my FINAL WORD on this subject and once again I ask everyone to drop all the useless crap and get this forum back on point.

For YOU personally - do NOT waste my or anyone else's time with your mindless attack on me again.

I will not respond to any more of your garbage and if you insist on spewing any more of it you will simply prove your unworthiness more.

Now go out and see one of the providers! It will make you feel so much better!

JJ


If I proved your point then you must have changed your position.

Good for you for having an open mind and reversing your thoughts on the subject and accepting that quality is impacted amount the market is willing to pay.

Nikos2
05-08-10, 18:18
I am sure like you, no one else knows what you are talking about either.

Spas are closed by local authorities, not federal.Obviously you don't know the law. I know you are parsing words trying to make yourself appear smarter than you are.

Interstate commerce of any kind falls under federal jurisdiction. Human trafficking, drug trafficking is a federal offense. Traffickers that facilitate this activity through a spa will be charged in a federal court.

That said breaking state and local laws is separate from federal offense. If you commit murder, prostitution or running a bawdy place you are breaking local and state laws.

What matters is who is leading the investigation. If the feds are leading the investigation then they will coordinate with local enforcement to arrest the traffickers for federal crimes. Simultaneously, local officials will charge them for local violations effectively shutting the AMP down.

On the flip side if the state and local authorities lead the investigation and find violations of human trafficking they will refer the case to the feds and charge them with local violations as well

After 9/11 the feds shutdown a lot of AMPs in DC. The terrorist/human trafficking risk was on the radar screen. They were looking for human traffickers which is a federal offense and led the raids

I guess maybe you're just too young or just full of it. But at it's peak there were AMPs even in Bethesda and Silver Spring. I also forgot to mention the AMPs near MCI center and the hookers on M street.

Brahmabull
05-08-10, 20:04
You, Sir, have proven yourself to be unworthy of further comment. My withdrawing from the discussion has nothing to do with who may have "won" or "lost" the discussion. I always have and always will pay exactly what I want to pay for the services I get and I can only assume that you will do the same.

So, to prevent you from looking more like a jackass I strongly suggest you drop the subject.

FINALLY and I do mean FINALLY - you are wrong in your views and I will not now, nor probably EVER, weaken to accept your opinion as anything near worthy of further discussion.

This is my FINAL WORD on this subject and once again I ask everyone to drop all the useless crap and get this forum back on point.

For YOU personally - do NOT waste my or anyone else's time with your mindless attack on me again.

I will not respond to any more of your garbage and if you insist on spewing any more of it you will simply prove your unworthiness more.

Now go out and see one of the providers! It will make you feel so much better!

JJ


Last word I doubt it.

I never said anyone WON Or LOST, it was a discussion not a contest or arguement if you took it that way, that is your problem. You can't win or lose discussions. If anyone looks like anything it would be you, good on you if you drop the subject.

I am not wrong in my views that is just your opinion, and frankly it does not matter what you think. But you said "I proved your point" so that implied you thought pricing affects quality. If you didn't think that why say "You proved my point".

Again useless crap would be 1 or 2 line reviews, not discussions on price or quality or both. That is the point of this forum.

Who are you to instruct anyone to post or not to post.
I never attacked you, however you stating that I spew garbage is an attack.

You are taking a discussion about tip pricing and quality too personally, never once did I say anything personal about you. I replied respectfully to your position. You claiming to be attacked does not make it true.

If I am "unworthy" of a reply and what I post here is "mindless", there should be no reason for you to read or respond. My reply is to correct all the incorrect things your post accuses me of doing which never happened.

Again discussions are not competitions to be won or lost if you enter a discusssion thinking that they can be won or lost you have entered for the wrong reason. In the future if what you are posting is in effort to "win" something, stop, think it over and refrain.

No one here is competing with you or anyone else. The only thing you can win on the internet is the right to be wrong, you are on track for that prize by claiming to be attacked when no such thing has happened to you.

Sleazebum
05-08-10, 22:43
I just visited another one of our favorites her in NoVa and she was simply amazing!!!

Trusted fellas can PM for details if you like.

Have fun and be safe!!

JJ

Cranberries
05-09-10, 02:13
I know this bust was reported here, but this story mentions how this board was used in the investigation:

http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/police_bust_sterling_massage_parlor747/

What a fucking crock.

If what they're doing is so bad, why the fuck would they LET a guy receive a handjob? That's fucking retarded.

Furthermore, he says all the girls are 18-25, but he noticed one that looked 16... But they all turned out to be in their 40's with one being in her 30's.

And it looks like some idiot on this board decided he didn't like Green and sent the LE information about the place. Was it Nikos?

Bunch of dumbasses all around.

Guitarman1
05-09-10, 08:59
And it looks like some idiot on this board decided he didn't like Green and sent the LE information about the place. Was it Nikos?

It could just as easily been a nearby business or resident who noticed the traffic going to the place and decided to investigate.

So many times people have been very direct with getting FS at an AMP I liked. Without fail they have all been shut down within about 6-9 months. I always stop going once someone is that direct about it and it is a good thing I do. I'm sure I saved myself from being caught up in a raid. Some people on this board will never learn.

Volvos40
05-09-10, 10:07
OK, I've seen enough small breasts lately, someone tell me where some nice C cups are. No, not looking for FS, at all, just nice breasts. Oh, in NOVA.

Thanks

Anon Busi
05-09-10, 10:10
I know this bust was reported here, but this story mentions how this board was used in the investigation:

http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/police_bust_sterling_massage_parlor747/This is very curious indeed. It's not like Green Therapy discussion in USASG comes up on the first page of Google or anything, so it's likely someone who frequents this board for fun turned them in.

On a separate point, I always wondered why some members have to go in such gory details about their visits. Seems to me a simple "standard NoVA"/"beyond standard NoVA" would do the trick.

Fred Hertz
05-09-10, 10:52
Enough. Seriously, if you do not know what to tip, PM a senior or three who seem to know.

I need to get back to NSP.really, and the senior members actually give honest answers?

I would say they would be more concerned to respond to PMs from random new folks.

Dr Bombay
05-09-10, 11:01
It could just as easily been a nearby business or resident who noticed the traffic going to the place and decided to investigate.

So many times people have been very direct with getting FS at an AMP I liked. Without fail they have all been shut down within about 6-9 months. I always stop going once someone is that direct about it and it is a good thing I do. I'm sure I saved myself from being caught up in a raid. Some people on this board will never learn.That's my motto. I found out the hard way some people here just don't care if a place gets busted. They'll just move on to the next place. Just check the usual explicit reporters. They just don't care and they brag about it.

Also, I doubt the law reveals every source that it uses. They have probably used the services at Green for the last 6 months, but don't want to have to say that in court.

Brahmabull
05-09-10, 13:15
According to the affidavit, a complaint was filed through Loudoun Crime Solvers Nov. 5, 2009. The complaint said that a UPS delivery person who was taking a package to the dentist office next door accidentally walked into Green Therapy and saw a lady “with barely any clothes on.”


The Sheriff’s Office set up surveillance outside of Green Therapy and interviewed several men who came out about what type of services they received.

In December and January, the Sheriff’s Office got two anonymous letters detailing posts on the websites USA Sex Guide and Erotic MP that detailed the services at Green Therapy.

On March 30, the Sheriff’s Office sent a confidential informant into Green Therapy and instructed him not to request anything more than a basic massage, but if the masseuse offered to stimulate his genital area with her hands, he could accept.

After being in Green Therapy for about an hour, the confidential informant reported back that his masseuse told him most of the women who worked at the business were from 18 to 25 years old; however, he noticed a girl who looked 15 or 16. He said all were Korean.





Seems like thier informant was wrong on almost all of his information. None of them were 18-25, and at least 2 of them were probably Chinese from the names in the article.

A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?

Since their informant gave false information, how do we really know he was offered FS and declined?

Nikos2
05-09-10, 16:51
A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?Since you are still sore on Green. As I said they got sloppy. Why don't you blame the mamasan for not doing her her job. You just don't let people walk thru the door when people are walking around half naked. After all they were not running a 100% legit business. Also, you contributed to their demise by posting their name on this board to. You are better off posting your useless Tip pricing model crap. Funny trying to parse a freaking article.

Gameover

Nikos2
05-09-10, 20:00
A UPS worker filed a complaint? Am I alone thinking it was probably a female ups driver? Do most straight men file complaints at seeing nearly naked ladies?Virginia is a bible state. Think Liberty University, its in Virginia, guy could have been a Jesus freak! I can't believe you are wasting your time on mindless speculation. Does it really matter?

Speculate on this. UPS, a fortune 500 corporation, does not have a policy in place for employees to report suspicious activities they encounter during a delivery of a package? Ups delivery guy could told his supervisor who told the cops end of story. Does it matter! Place is closed.

Black Coffee
05-09-10, 22:20
That's my motto. I found out the hard way some people here just don't care if a place gets busted. They'll just move on to the next place. Just check the usual explicit reporters. They just don't care and they brag about it.These guys that feel the need to brag online know that the chance that they will be the one dripping wet on the shower table when the ninjas come in with shotguns and video cameras is akin to winning the lottery. They are selfish and give no thought to the progressive damage resulting from their actions. They probably treat their friends and co-workers the same way. Despite popular belief the providers aren't all trafficking victims or heartless transients but ladies paying mortgages and going to school in the area. Check my previous report #3581. As another member said, when a place gets too popular I search out other UTR venues and usually get what I need. I remember one rainy weekend afternoon standing in a small lobby at one of last year's hotspots with 3 other guys all trying not to make eye contact with each other. It was comical and I knew it would be my last time there until the inevitable LE visit had passed.

BC

Black Coffee
05-09-10, 22:54
This is very curious indeed. It's not like Green Therapy discussion in USASG comes up on the first page of Google or anything, so it's likely someone who frequents this board for fun turned them in.A common LE tactic is to monitor these sites to establish probable cause for an investigation. It is not right to use anonymous posts this way but that's how it's done regardless if it holds up in court. There are laptops in the cruisers and more at HQ. There are two forgotten groups of people that read the postings, LE and providers. This weekend I was summoned to interpret another guy's post for a MMS. She was not pleased.

===============================================

Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the reach of the USA legal system.

Thanks,

Jackson

Brahmabull
05-10-10, 07:49
Since you are still sore on Green. As I said they got sloppy. Why don't you blame the mamasan for not doing her her job. You just don't let people walk thru the door when people are walking around half naked. After all they were not running a 100% legit business. Also, you contributed to their demise by posting their name on this board to. You are better off posting your useless Tip pricing model crap. Funny trying to parse a freaking article.

Gameover

Where in my post was I placing blame?

The only thing useless I have read lately around here are what is passing as reviews from some of you. Seems like you are trying to raise your post count with back to back posts, edit the original if you have an additional thought.

I simply posted a few excerpts from the article that I found interesting.

Having worked for UPS when I was a young man, I often encountered ladies in various states of dress and never once did I feel the need to 'report' such an incident. Even if they have a duty to report a crime if they see it, what is illegal seeing a scantily clad lady at her place of business? Is he the SPA's dress code enforcer? That's up to managment, not the UPS driver.

Is this driver reporting all the girls dressed provocatively everywhere else ?

You obviously have NOT read this forum, but you make a lot of comments about things that never happened. Find 1 review I made or comment BEFORE the bust about Green.

I didn't try to parse the article I took the pieces that I wanted to discuss and quoted them that is all.

You attitude suggests you do not care about spas that close or what LE is doing to the hobby. As such you really don't have a usefull purpose here. Ultimately lets see if you make any positive contribution to this site, perhaps you may, I am not optimistic however.

Upforamp
05-10-10, 11:02
Went to a place by George Marshall in Tyson area, the lady with the first name of a former first lady was good. Massage was not worth the money. Standard NOVA treatment being it was my first time. But very open/positive attitude and energy. There were other providers I saw on way to from shower. Maybe I'll try another next time.

Shower door faced the entrance hallway which was kinda awkward. But the shower table, which was not actually your regular table was covered in tile. Was afraid of the cushioning slipping away from the slippery, clean, white, block table.

Upforamp
05-10-10, 11:45
I went last Friday. Saw a lady with a name of a former first lady. Was not that great with the massage. Great with the attitude for Standard Nova finish. Will visit again and see if one of the other girls can do better with the massage and all.

Luther Pinks
05-10-10, 13:14
I just got home from a long trip last night and I wanted to unwind so I got in my car and headed to my ATF. The open sign in the window was turned off but there was a sign on the door that said open. I rang the doorbell and waited for a couple of minutes and no one came. I hate standing outside so I left.

I then went to a backup spot which has a much more discreet location and when I got there same deal. Lights off, and at this place the doorbell didn't even exist, it was broken off. Looks like it was shut down.

This was all around 9pm so I assume my first spot closed early since it was a Sunday. But I dunno. I don't post the names of places cause I'm new and would rather not. Just found it interesting.

Brahmabull
05-10-10, 14:42
I will use a similar parsing tactic you used on me.

UPS does not not shut down SPA's the local authorities shut them down. UPS guy told local authorities, local authorities investigated and shut it down. UPS is not the dress code enforcer the local authorities are the dress code enforcers. Why blame the UPS guy? He didn't make the final call?

Similar to your parsing tactic you used on me.

The Feds do not shut down Spa local authorities shut them down.

The Fed investigates human trafficking as it is a FEDERAL OFFENSE which falls under interstate commerce. Federal investigators will coordinate with local officials to shut down spa that facilitates Human Trafficking. Suspects which arrested are charged in Federal court for human trafficking. (Federal Offense under Insterstate Commerce) Simultaneously, the spa is closed and the same suspects are charged with violation of local laws.

If you don't know the law or what you are talking about then stick to something you do know like your TIP pricing model.

If you don't know how to read perhaps you should go back to school.

I never said the UPS guy shut the place down.
I never said the feds did and it never came up in my posts.

You should stick to trying to post 1 line reviews that do not serve any purpose and tell us again how happy you are when places shut down.

What is your purpose here again?

You keep refering to a TIP pricing model. While I posted on tipping affecting quality I never gave a "pricing model".

You I am sure will continue to make up stuff to suit your need to post and repost about nothing.

I speculated the UPS driver was probably FEMALE since they reported seeing a scantly clad person and were NOT happy about, I did not pass blame nor attack UPS.

Please work on your reading skills, I doubt you know much of the law since you seem lack the ability to understand a simple post on this forum. The law seems to be outside of your ability to comprehend.

Cranberries
05-10-10, 16:58
At this point Nikos2 has 10 posts.


Post 1 - Posts about how he's glad Green got busted.
Post 2 - Another useless post about parlors in Brooklyn despite being a NoVA board.
Post 3 - Deleted by admin for personal attacks.
Post 4 - Talks about AMPs in DC closing down after 2001 which doesn't sound right.
Post 5, 6, 7 - Three replies to one post. Looks like an attempt to inflate post count.
Post 8, 9 - Two replies to one post. Looks like another attempt to inflate post count.
Post 10 - Another useless post.


Hmmmm.

Magiks
05-10-10, 17:38
So I stopped in at this spot and I got an awesome massage from an awesome lady. Quite possibly the best massage I have ever had in my limited experience. It took a little convincing to get the finish I was after. "No problem? ", "Please, no problem at all". The finish it self was fast and furious, but after such a fantastic massage I wasn't complaining.

Sleazebum
05-10-10, 18:23
Let's not start another pissing contest. It just ain't worth it. We all know who the jackasses are and who to ignore.

OK?

PEACE!

JJ





At this point Nikos2 has 10 posts.


Post 1 - Posts about how he's glad Green got busted.
Post 2 - Another useless post about parlors in Brooklyn despite being a NoVA board.
Post 3 - Deleted by admin for personal attacks.
Post 4 - Talks about AMPs in DC closing down after 2001 which doesn't sound right.
Post 5, 6, 7 - Three replies to one post. Looks like an attempt to inflate post count.
Post 8, 9 - Two replies to one post. Looks like another attempt to inflate post count.
Post 10 - Another useless post.


Hmmmm.

A John
05-10-10, 19:09
JJ,
sometimes you have a good contribution to the forum, however at times like this and when you beat down people for over tipping that just burn my ass.

This situation in itself will die out if you leave it alone NO,NO JJ has to put his two cents in. What positive can possibly come from the comment I've quoted? All you're doing JJ is adding fuel to the fire!

You said you were done with the BULL now you're looking for any opportunity to throw a smart remark his way.

Now you tell me isn't that the definition of a jackass?

Now you can say what you will. I will not respond to your upcoming comment!



We all know who the jackasses are and who to ignore.
JJ

Justforme
05-10-10, 21:03
For 41 she was one of the better on the scene, I only wished she serviced as well. I liked talking with her and I feel she would have been worth the experience. I hope she is OK.



Since you are still sore on Green. As I said they got sloppy. Why don't you blame the mamasan for not doing her her job. You just don't let people walk thru the door when people are walking around half naked. After all they were not running a 100% legit business. Also, you contributed to their demise by posting their name on this board to. You are better off posting your useless Tip pricing model crap. Funny trying to parse a freaking article.

Gameover

Justforme
05-10-10, 21:05
I always fell like someone is watching me!


At this point Nikos2 has 10 posts.


Post 1 - Posts about how he's glad Green got busted.
Post 2 - Another useless post about parlors in Brooklyn despite being a NoVA board.
Post 3 - Deleted by admin for personal attacks.
Post 4 - Talks about AMPs in DC closing down after 2001 which doesn't sound right.
Post 5, 6, 7 - Three replies to one post. Looks like an attempt to inflate post count.
Post 8, 9 - Two replies to one post. Looks like another attempt to inflate post count.
Post 10 - Another useless post.


Hmmmm.

Nikos2
05-10-10, 22:35
I guess nobody believes me that the feds closed down lots of spas during 9/11 using human trafficking laws. The local authorities can only close spas according to one person Brahmabull on this board. My words don't matter. Also those spas near the Ford theater never existed. I wonder where Royal Spa mentioned in the article below is near, you know the one I mentioned in an earlier post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/16/AR2006081601513.html

Oh what about the spa I mentioned above the tattoo parlor Fatty's that never existed either. You know the one around the corner from C's.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Local-Leads-10_16_09-64490837.html

So I am I lying?

Brahmabull
05-11-10, 07:42
I guess nobody believes me that the feds closed down lots of spas during 9/11 using human trafficking laws. The local authorities can only close spas according to one person Brahmabull on this board. My words don't matter. Also those spas near the Ford theater never existed. I wonder where Royal Spa mentioned in the article below is near, you know the one I mentioned in an earlier post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/16/AR2006081601513.html

Oh what about the spa I mentioned above the tattoo parlor Fatty's that never existed either. You know the one around the corner from C's.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Local-Leads-10_16_09-64490837.html

So I am I lying?


1st article is from 2006, not directly after 9/11. STRETCH there sir. Hell any one of raids/busts that have happened recently happened after 9/11 technically and none are related to it. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHEN 9/11 happened? I am guessing not because you claim this happened during 9/11 (when actually it was 5 YEARS later).

2nd article is from 10/09, and is about a spa reopening.

Which has nothing to do with the topic of discussion which is GREEN closing.
ICE looks for trafficing and partners with local agencies. WELL KNOWN.

No where in the article which is the topic of dicussion was any of what you are now trying to discuss brought up.

This is the Nova board, what happens in DC should be posted on the DC board.

No one accused you of lying. I will say you apparently cant stay on topic and like to take things out of context, in your attempts to make a name for yourself, and you are making one, just not the one that you want.


Local authorities close spas, do they sometimes work with ICE or other federal agencies, they sure do, but ICE and the feds do not go into spas by themselves, do local LE agencies need feds to close spas, NO.

Fatpig
05-11-10, 08:01
I guess nobody believes me that the feds closed down lots of spas during 9/11 using human trafficking laws.

So I am I lying?

Its not that I believe anyone or give a shit. I just want reviews. Take this ship up in PM.

Someone explain a panty job to me (PM). I looked it up. Just looks like dry humping to me, which kids do at dances.

Fixed edit.

Nikos2
05-11-10, 09:44
Its not that I believe anyone or give a shit. I just want reviews. Take this ship up in PM.

Someone explain a panty job to me (PM). I looked it up. Just looks like dry humping to me which kids to at dances.Dry humping sort of, the specific experience I am referring to is a reverse cow girl dance without penetration, and HJ release to finish. She wore a thong and rode my johnson in between her legs while wacking me off at the same time. I got to grab her ass and knobs as her back was facing me. I am not naming names in light of five-0 watching. I called it a panty job because I ended jizzing on her thong. I only know that because after she got up she laughed at the mess that landed on her.

The massage was excellent, the place is not high profile its not advertised on craigs, backpage, city paper or other main venues. She was a koren gal I would say mid to late 30's, fairly attractive. The place was clean well kept with only a walk in shower.

I only wonder how this one line will be criticized? Do I have to have proof, pictures, time-stamp that this actually happened? Is there a formal massage review form I need to fill out? I don't know did I meet the strict definition of a panty job? I am sure someone on this board will surely point out the shortcoming of this email.

Big Daddy Don
05-11-10, 10:28
Its not that I believe anyone or give a shit. I just want reviews. Take this ship up in PM.

Someone explain a panty job to me (PM). I looked it up. Just looks like dry humping to me which kids to at dances.



I want to know what a "Panty Job" is also....

Anon Busi
05-11-10, 13:01
Went to King and saw a new provider from Jersey, didn't ask for name. Looks to be mid-later 30 or early 40, OK looking but a set of very nice bolt-ons. Mamasan was not in and supposedly business there has been a little slow lately since the Green raid. Massage was actually very nice and thorough, starting from feet all the way up to a scalp massage, one of the better ones I have received and much better than those gimmick back-walking for me. It actually work off some of the soreness I had from golfing. A bit upselling later but I gave standard tip for standard NoVA completion.

Overall experience 8. 5 out 10. Probably will repeat.

Anon Busi
05-11-10, 13:09
Its not that I believe anyone or give a shit. I just want reviews. Take this ship up in PM.

Someone explain a panty job to me (PM). I looked it up. Just looks like dry humping to me, which kids do at dances.

Fixed edit.Immitation intercourse without girl taking the underwear off. It's actually very erotic when done right, especially with those see-through underwears.

One of my college hook-ups was willing to do only that but we both had orgasms at the end.

Omeyer
05-11-10, 13:13
I want to know what a "Panty Job" is also....
Just dream way back to the back seat of your daddy's car. A panty job was just short of a home run. You were out and ready and she was hot. But the panties were staying put and the best you could hope for was to rub up on it.

Same thing. AMPs and the old back seat are much the same. Sometimes a rub is the best you can hope for.

Omeyer
05-11-10, 13:29
Had a bit of time Saturday afternoon and had been seeing the ads for Lotus in Woodbridge grand opening. So I thought I'd check it out. I've only seen one other report on the place.
A woman answered the door (late 30's to late 40's) not sure if asian or latina but either way not very pretty. She poked her head into the nearest room and asked me to come back in twenty minutes. She told me when I came back it would be her turn again. I headed to Magic touch to find it closed. I thought about the place in Dumfries on RT 1 but it was closed as well.
Taking 3 strikes as an omen I gave up the prospect of a massage that day.

Nikos2
05-11-10, 13:34
Just dream way back to the back seat of your daddy's car. A panty job was just short of a home run. You were out and ready and she was hot. But the panties were staying put and the best you could hope for was to rub up on it.

Same thing. AMPs and the old back seat are much the same. Sometimes a rub is the best you can hope for.This is probably going to be a duplicate so I will be accused of trying to increase my post count. I don't know why the delay but whenever I try to post they get a delayed or get lost in translation. I basically had a reverse cowgirl with no penetration and simultaneously got a HJ for a finish. I made a mess on her panties. Hence a panty job! Can't wait for the crticism!

A John
05-11-10, 14:01
This is probably going to be a duplicate so I will be accused of trying to increase my post count. I don't know why the delay but whenever I try to post they get a delayed or get lost in translation.


No problems on the increased post count\duplicate. Until you reach senior status all your posts are delayed not sure exactly why may be Jackson or his staff reviews them before circulation. Anyway just be patient usually within 24 hours they will be posted.

Brahmabull
05-11-10, 15:09
Until you reach senior status all your posts are delayed not sure exactly why may be Jackson or his staff reviews them before circulation. Anyway just be patient usually within 24 hours they will be posted.

Here is the section from the FAQ
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=member_type_questions#faq_membership_type_questions_01

Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system. However, Regular Member's reports are held briefly until they are reviewed by a Forum Moderator.

Senior Members are former Regular Members who have been members for at least 6 months and have made 25 or more contributions to The Forum. Senior Member's reports are held briefly until they are reviewed by a Forum Moderator.

Unmoderated Members are Senior Members who's writing style somewhat follows the Forum's Posting Guidelines. Reports by Unmoderated Members are not held for moderation.

Pcpc1688
05-11-10, 15:26
Pd a visit today and was thoroughly disappointed. She wasnt all that either as some have said. She also baited and switched me on price so I left.

Srs can PM me for further details if you want but Im not going back.

PC out

Pcpc1688
05-11-10, 15:29
This is probably going to be a duplicate so I will be accused of trying to increase my post count. I don't know why the delay but whenever I try to post they get a delayed or get lost in translation. I basically had a reverse cowgirl with no penetration and simultaneously got a HJ for a finish. I made a mess on her panties. Hence a panty job! Can't wait for the crticism!


Niko,

As Ajohn said, your posts will be read/moderated until you have some track record here. Until then, keep providing some other Panty job stories for us to appreciate. Also, try not to stir up the pot and focus on what your adventures were, not what we think about them.

PC out

Pilot Aviator
05-11-10, 19:14
The purpose of the board.info on a visit (not the best visit or the best report)

I had the afternoon free this rainy Tuesday. After running an errand, I found myself at a place near the NoVA beltway. I've enjoyed other visits much better than the one today. In fact. For the first time (ever), I got up and left early, because. Well, it was just not a great day at the spa.

Arrival: 5/10. It was cold. It was rainy. I called ahead. There was more of a delay answering the door than I was happy with. And we all dislike standing outside.

Greeting: 7/10 Bobby did not remember me (OK. Not so big a deal, she had only met me once). I was surprised MMS did not answer the door / greet me (she answered the phone when I called). We climbed the stairs to room 2 (across from the shower and sauna).

"30 minutes? " she asked. "No an hour" I replied and handed her the house. 8. She could see I had significant currency remaining which I placed under my glasses and keys.

TS. OK. This was the best part of this visit. But even though the shower was good, the water was almost cool and it was a cold day (score 8minus/10)

First really negative//bait and switch. For some reason not explained, Bobby decides one of the other ladies would give me my massage "I send in really nice girl" she said. // a few minutes later, Tina came in. Tina is a nice lady. Tina is spinner-slender, has long hair, and is over 50. For me her age was not really a problem, but I know it would have been a problem for many.

Massage: 6/10

I am unsure how long Tina has been in NoVA. In some ways the massage almost bordered on good. In other ways, it went beyond bored.

The touch for the back work was OK.

Even though I paid for an hour and only 40 minutes had passed, I got up and dressed when Tina left the room (not sure why she left). I took back my currency, but because I realized she had been put in the wrong situation by the staff, I left a standard gratuity. Others have been arguing about tipping lately. I left a tip because that was the nice thing to do for that lady. She was surprised to see I was up and almost dressed when she returned (I could see it in her face).

Departure: 6/10

Perhaps she thought I would be vocally unhappy or complain to the MMS. I've learned to not make a fuss – a comment to the MMS is ok, and there are other venues to try or patronize.

I don't think Tina was MMS's idea. MMS here has consistently been nice to me, and I have been consistently more than standard nice to the ladies at this location in the past. I might have said something to the MMS if I had seen her, but it would have been politely stated and nothing beyond I was not particularly happy with my visit today.

In hind-sight:

Perhaps the ladies are spooked by the recent activities involving our Uncle in those places farther out (and so, perhaps leaving my currency out was the wrong thing to do this trip?. I don't know). Overall – well below average – well below my expectations – score this a 4 since I left after 40 minutes.

NOTE TO BOBBY – since the spa was empty when I arrived and when I left, I felt "dissed" by your switch. I was carrying extra currency today beyond the normal gratuity standards because our last session was very enjoyable. I did not want more of anything – I was just going to say thank you with a little more than usual. Too bad you passed-me off.

NOTE TO TINA – thank you for the massage. Most likely MMS will assign someone else next time.

Always be nice to the ladies

PA

Aman Tuleev
05-11-10, 21:18
Pd a visit today and was thoroughly disappointed. She wasnt all that either as some have said. She also baited and switched me on price so I left.
Sorry for that. Just want note that I knew her when she were working in amp, and after, when she became indy, and I was never disapointed. I'd say, she never was the best, but she was good.

I could beleive that You say, everything is changeing. Sorry for that.

Stay Safe,
Aman

Pcpc1688
05-12-10, 07:33
Sorry for that. Just want note that I knew her when she were working in amp, and after, when she became indy, and I was never disapointed. I'd say, she never was the best, but she was good.

I could beleive that You say, everything is changeing. Sorry for that.

Stay Safe,

AmanAman,

Kind words my friend but it was all her deal. Times are changing and when the Hoes we know get hungery or lose more of their livihood, they may change that "I deserve what I charge" attitude as well.

PC out

Brahmabull
05-12-10, 08:38
NOTE TO BOBBY – since the spa was empty when I arrived and when I left, I felt "dissed" by your switch. I was carrying extra currency today beyond the normal gratuity standards because our last session was very enjoyable. I did not want more of anything – I was just going to say thank you with a little more than usual. Too bad you passed-me off.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PANice review, it sucks when we feel we need to leave early.

Can I ask you, is it possible Bobby was not in a position to provide you the service that the tip may have implied? Either physically or emotionally, and just wanted to send in a girl who would provide what she may have assumed (even if she was wrongly assuming) that you were looking for?

You normally get grade A service here, do you not? So a down turn in service on 1 visit may just be that girl not able to perform that day, it is good that you did not spend much more then the house fee.

I am just asking because I was not there, and I know sometimes my regular girl(s) will have me take another if she is not up to it (for what ever reason) that day.

Thanks for the report
BB

MoonView
05-12-10, 10:07
PC,

Sorry to hear and very strange to read your posting! I along with many others here have had nothing but great visits with this little Asian gem. Maybe an off day for one of you? I will make a stop and report back in the near future, as it's been a while since I've seen her, maybe things have change...we'll see!

MnV


Pd a visit today and was thoroughly disappointed. She wasnt all that either as some have said. She also baited and switched me on price so I left.

Srs can PM me for further details if you want but Im not going back.

PC out

Sleazebum
05-12-10, 15:56
I have learned that there are few things in life that I can be failrly sure of. I am so glad that I found the FCCC to be one of them. I have never had a bad session there and there has been a different attendent there every time too.

So for variety and just real good service at a reasonable price the FCCC is the place to go!

Tiffany is there today and she did herself proud! Everything was just great! I almost fell asleep after it was done and she came and got beside me and cuddled a bit.

Just wonderful! She will be there one week.

Actually, the massage itself was not so great but everything else was wonderful!

JJ

Pcpc1688
05-13-10, 02:52
PC,

Sorry to hear and very strange to read your posting! I along with many others here have had nothing but great visits with this little Asian gem. Maybe an off day for one of you? I will make a stop and report back in the near future, as it's been a while since I've seen her, maybe things have change...we'll see!

MnV


Mnv,

I always give a benefit of the doubt but this crazy hoe stacked up so many appts back to back that I drove 45 mins in the fucking rain to get 30 if I were lucky, nah pass. She isnt that pretty or hot imho.

PC out

TanithMagna
05-13-10, 10:43
Long time lurker first time post.

Have visited lots of AMPs in DC area but never been to ATMB, figured I would pay a visit. Went by earlier this week and had a strange experience.

Parking lot secluded, nice building, clean. Opened door, no MMS there but when I called out greeted and then escorted to a room where the masseuses hang out with TV and korean videos. Waited there too long.

When someone finally remembers that I am there (at least 10 mins) they escort me to a room, ask how long I want to stay and I said "1 hour". She takes money and tells me to keep voice down which I thought was strange. I get comfortable and lie down. Wait there another 10 mins and wondered what was up and I get up and go peek out door and catch the eye of one of the staff and she is like "One second". Then comes in a girl named Mimi and she is all apologetic for the wait and everything.

No TS at the facility so could not break ice that way so dove into massage. It was actually pretty good but seemed short after all the time I spent waiting. Above average NOVA finish. Out in less than an hour.

Was a good time for what I went for but did not like feeling like I was an afterthought even after calling 5 minutes before arrival.

Have fun and stay safe out there.

MoonView
05-13-10, 11:57
Sometimes it's about chemistry, I've had my share of bad visits with what seemed to have good reporting here on the site. Was it me, was it her...doesn't really matter as there are plenty to choose from.

Nana has her ways, she plays by gut feel and goes with it, is all I can say to prospective buyers. But if you can crack the code, she can be an excellent experience.

Had a visit this morning, as always for me, a pleasant stay!

MnV



Mnv,

I always give a benefit of the doubt but this crazy hoe stacked up so many appts back to back that I drove 45 mins in the fucking rain to get 30 if I were lucky, nah pass. She isnt that pretty or hot imho.

PC out

Yakblat
05-13-10, 11:59
I've been trying to TOFTT with a particular provider for some time now, but haven't been able to make an appointment. Sooo it was off to a reliable backup. Mama met me at the door and seemed to recognize me even though I'd been there only once, and that was a few weeks ago. It was a slow day for them as I was their first customer at about noon. Mona met me in the room and led me to the TS. Back in the room she gave a massage that wasn't as good as Ruby's but every bit as relaxing. This place has a pleasant, if slightly old, staff that really knows how to make the whole experience an easy going, relaxing time. Nice mints on the way out too. Yak.

T Shell
05-13-10, 20:20
Was in town so drove out to a place on backlick, but traffic was bad so I ended up on little river, skipped the OTC and when to Golden, or maybe it is Garden. Second visit. So I remembered where it was, but not the name. Last time had a great masseuse, this time a great massage. TS is a bit awkward, it is located up front so other clients were walking past I was being washed off (still behind the curtain).

Massage was good, but no finish. Maybe the girls are scared b/c of the other bust, but I don't think this place and that are close by.

Anyway nice massage, but legit.

Later in the week went to a place on Lee I believe, second story place. Standard all the way around, except the k-gal kept telling me she was japanese. Which she obviously was not.

Standard prices and services. Not too busy either.

Phillie
05-13-10, 23:18
Was a good time for what I went for but did not like feeling like I was an afterthought even after calling 5 minutes before arrival.

Have fun and stay safe out there.5 minutes isn't exactly advance notice, and not enough to to shuffle their schedule around. However, if the girls were just watching K-TV, then even with advance notice it sounds likely you would have been an afterthought.

Pcpc1688
05-14-10, 19:41
Sometimes it's about chemistry, I've had my share of bad visits with what seemed to have good reporting here on the site. Was it me, was it her...doesn't really matter as there are plenty to choose from.

Nana has her ways, she plays by gut feel and goes with it, is all I can say to prospective buyers. But if you can crack the code, she can be an excellent experience.

Had a visit this morning, as always for me, a pleasant stay!

MnV


Im happy its good for you bro! :)

PC out

Live69
05-14-10, 19:44
Vivi Spa

30min/$50
60min/$70
90min/$110

Cash and Visa/MasterCard are accepted.

Business hours: Monday-Sunday 9:30am to 9pm

PHONE : 540-878-5169

Address : 294 W LEE HWY #202 WARRENTON VA 20186

Very new and very clean. Not a full service place but a good massage folllowed by a hj for a good price. I totally recommend it.

Superman06
05-15-10, 09:05
Vivi Spa

30min/$50
60min/$70
90min/$110

Cash and Visa/MasterCard are accepted.

Business hours: Monday-Sunday 9:30am to 9pm

PHONE : 540-878-5169

Address : 294 W LEE HWY #202 WARRENTON VA 20186

Very new and very clean. Not a full service place but a good massage folllowed by a hj for a good price. I totally recommend it.
Is this all inclusive? If not, is it standard NoVa gratuity?

Mastabuck
05-15-10, 21:50
Vivi Spa

30min/$50
60min/$70
90min/$110

Cash and Visa/MasterCard are accepted.

Business hours: Monday-Sunday 9:30am to 9pm

PHONE : 540-878-5169

Address : 294 W LEE HWY #202 WARRENTON VA 20186

Very new and very clean. Not a full service place but a good massage folllowed by a hj for a good price. I totally recommend it.They remind me of the prices I used to get in Fayetteville NC, these prices dont surprise me when you consider where this place is located. By the time you spend the gas to get there, you pretty much paid the price of an AMP that is easier to drive to.

Phillie
05-16-10, 09:52
Is this all inclusive? If not, is it standard NoVa gratuity?Indeed, is the posted price all inclusive or only the house fee?

Banker Boy
05-16-10, 13:04
Junior Banker Boy was feeling frisky Friday night, so at around 9:45pm, I pulled up to K. I had never been there anywhere near that late, and the sign on the door says 10pm closing, so I wasn't sure if they'd be open. When the sign was still lit, I knocked and asked for Yumi so I could have a repeat of last week. I figured Yumi wouldn't mind staying late for a well paying customer. But the woman at the door ignored me and wanted to service me herself. I never got her name, but she's fairly short, in her early 40s, and has black, frizzy hair. Not particularly attractive, but a fairly fit body for someone that age.

Anyway, I've posted almost the same story 3 times now, so I won't rehash the same details except to remark with some surprise that FS seems to be the norm at K and Best now. Very surprising to me, as I've been going to both establishments on and off for some 15 years now or so, and they've never been like that. I've read some posts here lately talking about how the providers are getting desperate, but I've always had trouble relating to that vis-a-vis K and Best, as they've always had a steady flow of customers as best I can tell from my POV.

So a quick (awful) little tale from Friday night. The nameless girl had me in the throes of ecstasy (you know, that time during coital relations where the girl can ask you for the keys to your car and the deed to your house and you're like, "anything, baby, just keep going") when she did something I was totally not prepared for or happy with. She ripped off the cover and went bareback with me.

I was horrified, but couldn't stop at that moment, and for about 2 minutes we went bareback until she sensed I was ready, and she pulled out and finished me with her hands.

As we all know, if she was willing to do that with me, then she does it with others, and that's EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T GO BAREBACK AT AN AMP! I drove home and started scrubbing vigorously, but I'm guessing that's useless against whatever god awful diseases I could get from that.

One last thought: now that getting FS is no longer a challenge at Best or K, I don't think I'll go back. For me, the thrill has always been the chase. Getting to know a provider, treating her well, being a good guy, and getting rewarded down the road with unexpected (but hoped for) favors. With these girls giving it up to guys like me who they don't recognize (thanks to my slowing down of mongering activity and the quick AMP staff turnover), it's no longer fun for me, I think.

Wild Turkey
05-16-10, 14:15
Vivi Spa

30min/$50
60min/$70
90min/$110I'm sure people realize that these are only $10 off the regular prices for 30- and 60-minute sessions at most NoVA AMPs. This post looks exactly like an ad that those places would post on Backpage. Neither in this post nor in those ads is there ever a suggestion that the prices are all-inclusive. I am really confused as to why this post has generated so much excitement.

MassLover
05-16-10, 16:53
if she was willing to do that with me, then she does it with others.

Exactly! I am also very surprised by ever more ladies in KMP who are willing to do BBFS lately. It was not like that before. Guess they must be very desperate.

Justforme
05-16-10, 17:21
it will not be long before they follow Green road. Oh well on to a new challenge.


Junior Banker Boy was feeling frisky Friday night, so at around 9:45pm, I pulled up to K. I had never been there anywhere near that late, and the sign on the door says 10pm closing, so I wasn't sure if they'd be open. When the sign was still lit, I knocked and asked for Yumi so I could have a repeat of last week. I figured Yumi wouldn't mind staying late for a well paying customer. But the woman at the door ignored me and wanted to service me herself. I never got her name, but she's fairly short, in her early 40s, and has black, frizzy hair. Not particularly attractive, but a fairly fit body for someone that age.

Anyway, I've posted almost the same story 3 times now, so I won't rehash the same details except to remark with some surprise that FS seems to be the norm at K and Best now. Very surprising to me, as I've been going to both establishments on and off fitor some 15 years now or so, and they've never been like that. I've read some posts here lately talking about how the providers are getting desperate, but I've always had trouble relating to that vis-a-vis K and Best, as they've always had a steady flow of customers as best I can tell from my POV.

So a quick (awful) little tale from Friday night. The nameless girl had me in the throes of ecstasy (you know, that time during coital relations where the girl can ask you for the keys to your car and the deed to your house and you're like, "anything, baby, just keep going") when she did something I was totally not prepared for or happy with. She ripped off the cover and went bareback with me.

I was horrified, but couldn't stop at that moment, and for about 2 minutes we went bareback until she sensed I was ready, and she pulled out and finished me with her hands.

As we all know, if she was willing to do that with me, then she does it with others, and that's EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T GO BAREBACK AT AN AMP! I drove home and started scrubbing vigorously, but I'm guessing that's useless against whatever god awful diseases I could get from that.

One last thought: now that getting FS is no longer a challenge at Best or K, I don't think I'll go back. For me, the thrill has always been the chase. Getting to know a provider, treating her well, being a good guy, and getting rewarded down the road with unexpected (but hoped for) favors. With these girls giving it up to guys like me who they don't recognize (thanks to my slowing down of mongering activity and the quick AMP staff turnover), it's no longer fun for me, I think.

Phillie
05-16-10, 17:53
My first time there and it turns out they have a different name on the front. In an industrial park, very quiet. Walked in and there was Lisa, fake see cups, prob in her early 40's and slender. Not much of a looker, but decent bod. Went for a HH with TS which she agreed upon. Then just as we were about to start after the flip the phone rang. And rang again. And then again, and she answered each time! She even went to the door and answered that too! We had agreed on just a CBJ, but she ended up giving me the full menu after that for no extra charge. Still not enough to make up for it as it was rushed and she asked for the tip upfront. Eh.

Jim Rob
05-16-10, 18:03
I would have thrown her off me if I was you. That's like RAPE. I would have went right to the ER and you can get like a cocktail of meds to kill anything you might have caught, but you got like 24 hours to do that I think


Junior Banker Boy was feeling frisky Friday night, so at around 9:45pm, I pulled up to K. I had never been there anywhere near that late, and the sign on the door says 10pm closing, so I wasn't sure if they'd be open. When the sign was still lit, I knocked and asked for Yumi so I could have a repeat of last week. I figured Yumi wouldn't mind staying late for a well paying customer. But the woman at the door ignored me and wanted to service me herself. I never got her name, but she's fairly short, in her early 40s, and has black, frizzy hair. Not particularly attractive, but a fairly fit body for someone that age.

Anyway, I've posted almost the same story 3 times now, so I won't rehash the same details except to remark with some surprise that FS seems to be the norm at K and Best now. Very surprising to me, as I've been going to both establishments on and off for some 15 years now or so, and they've never been like that. I've read some posts here lately talking about how the providers are getting desperate, but I've always had trouble relating to that vis-a-vis K and Best, as they've always had a steady flow of customers as best I can tell from my POV.

So a quick (awful) little tale from Friday night. The nameless girl had me in the throes of ecstasy (you know, that time during coital relations where the girl can ask you for the keys to your car and the deed to your house and you're like, "anything, baby, just keep going") when she did something I was totally not prepared for or happy with. She ripped off the cover and went bareback with me.

I was horrified, but couldn't stop at that moment, and for about 2 minutes we went bareback until she sensed I was ready, and she pulled out and finished me with her hands.

As we all know, if she was willing to do that with me, then she does it with others, and that's EXACTLY WHY YOU DON'T GO BAREBACK AT AN AMP! I drove home and started scrubbing vigorously, but I'm guessing that's useless against whatever god awful diseases I could get from that.

One last thought: now that getting FS is no longer a challenge at Best or K, I don't think I'll go back. For me, the thrill has always been the chase. Getting to know a provider, treating her well, being a good guy, and getting rewarded down the road with unexpected (but hoped for) favors. With these girls giving it up to guys like me who they don't recognize (thanks to my slowing down of mongering activity and the quick AMP staff turnover), it's no longer fun for me, I think.

Andrewsted
05-17-10, 13:29
After revoking the license of Green Therapy massage parlor in the Cascades area of Sterling April 27, the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office revoked the licenses of two more massage parlors May 11-12.

Police say the businesses are in violation of the Loudoun County Ordinance that governs massage parlors, Sheriff’s Office spokesman Kraig Troxell said.

On May 11, investigators searched Aroma Therapy Massage at 22648 Glenn Drive in Sterling Park and charged Seung J. Oh, 38, of New York, with performing a massage without a license, Troxell said.

The following day, investigators searched Massage Therapy at 47024 Harry Byrd Highway and charged Sin Suk Cho, 47, of Pennsylvania, with willfully placing a hand or hands upon, touching with any part of the body, fondling in any manner or massaging a sexual or genital part of any other person, Troxell said.

The revocation of the licenses of these three businesses is part of an ongoing investigation, Troxell said.

Any Mouse
05-17-10, 13:43
After revoking the license of Green Therapy massage parlor in the Cascades area of Sterling April 27, the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office revoked the licenses of two more massage parlors:
...

On May 11, ... Aroma Therapy Massage at 22648 Glenn Drive in Sterling Park and charged Seung J. Oh, 38, of New York, with performing a massage without a license, .

The following day Massage Therapy at 47024 Harry Byrd Highway and charged Sin Suk Cho, 47, of Pennsylvania, with ... fondling in any manner or massaging a sexual or genital part of any other person,.

The revocation of the licenses of these three businesses is part of an ongoing investigation, Troxell said.Please note: ONGOING investigation. With all our chatter about NOVA++ and other bragging about conquests, its only a matter of time until YOUR favorite place goes down. Keep it up and we will all be singing the same song that the DC mongers are singing.

===============================================

Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the reach of the USA legal system.

Thanks,

Jackson

Funkey
05-17-10, 18:09
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Pcpc1688
05-18-10, 13:19
I would have thrown her off me if I was you. That's like RAPE. I would have went right to the ER and you can get like a cocktail of meds to kill anything you might have caught, but you got like 24 hours to do that I think


The BB issue with AMP girls. You probably have more chances of getting a STD from some floozey you pick up in DC however, you will more than likely live.

IMHO

PC out

Justforme
05-18-10, 15:03
I think the choice to go BB or not to go BB is on each of us individually and should be kept this way. If one wants to share a BB experience with the rest of us, this is what this site is for. If you are not into someone else getting into BB, you should pass over the review and not judge what someone else is doing during his hobby as long as he is not hurting one of us or a provider.

Bottom line, unless you are also doing BB with the guy going BB with a lovely, it is not your problem so allow another person to enjoy as he like the best.

Thanks




The BB issue with AMP girls. You probably have more chances of getting a STD from some floozey you pick up in DC however, you will more than likely live.

IMHO

PC out

Ginger Man
05-18-10, 16:09
In my experience, both first and second hand, AMP providers usually, that is usually, save BB and intense kissing for their boy friends off campus.

I would be afraid to go BB during a one hour vacation. Actually, years ago a lady at Ginza in DC wanted to go that way with me, and I did the turtle shrivel!

I would never discourage anyone from posting, but there is such a thing as TMI. I like to use backchannel for the details.

Just saying.......

Fatpig
05-18-10, 16:19
Hit up this one when I found it on bp. Never been and let them no as such. draped shower at first. But at least a decent clean. Massage I asked for a med. It was ok. Not very sensual but on the flip she did some great work. Standard tip.
Only one other person came as I was leaving. So not to busy.
I was greeted at the door by a skinny long torso K. She led me to the room and took the house fee. In comes another girl. Very short but cute-ish.
C boltons.

Not my style but no complaints. Still a plus experience.

Cavetroll
05-18-10, 17:33
I think the choice to go BB or not to go BB is on each of us individually and should be kept this way. If one wants to share a BB experience with the rest of us, this is what this site is for. If you are not into someone else getting into BB, you should pass over the review and not judge what someone else is doing during his hobby as long as he is not hurting one of us or a provider.

Bottom line, unless you are also doing BB with the guy going BB with a lovely, it is not your problem so allow another person to enjoy as he like the best.

ThanksFirst, I do agree that everyone here has to make their own choices. That said, I think I speak for the others who did not approve of the BB work in saying that our disapproval is only expressed due to an interest in the sexual safety of the other members of the board. One cannot truly know how recently a girl has been tested, if at all, as well as whether or not she has an STI. Indeed, it is plausible to suppose that a provider may have something and not even know it herself, as many diseases have a long period of incubation (such as the dreaded hi-five), during which time transmission is possible but no symptoms are seen. Additionally, it is also safer to assume 1) that a girl who does BB does so with others and 2) that one cannot trust mongers to be aware of their own STI's or be aware of them.

So really, guys can do as they wish with regards to BB, but it is definitely a roll of the dice.

Justforme
05-19-10, 11:37
Regardless if tested or not, we are all adults and by now should be educated on the risks of BB. We should know by now that BB = Russian Roulette and maybe we should not do it but every once in a while you get so into a person you want a little more. I do not advocate BB but I have been tempted to ask on a very few occasions.

Some here are very judgmental and beat up others for making their choices. It is their choice and does not affect others. I do not choice BB often but as mentioned above I do ask and should I ask for it and if accepted this in on the two of us and no others.

Your 1) and 2) are so true but it is still on the individual to take the chance. If anyone believes she will ony do BB with him he is being foolish. She is doing with othe clients and with her own Pimp/boyfriend.

Al I am saying is do not judge, the choice is with the individuals.


First, I do agree that everyone here has to make their own choices. That said, I think I speak for the others who did not approve of the BB work in saying that our disapproval is only expressed due to an interest in the sexual safety of the other members of the board. One cannot truly know how recently a girl has been tested, if at all, as well as whether or not she has an STI. Indeed, it is plausible to suppose that a provider may have something and not even know it herself, as many diseases have a long period of incubation (such as the dreaded hi-five), during which time transmission is possible but no symptoms are seen. Additionally, it is also safer to assume 1) that a girl who does BB does so with others and 2) that one cannot trust mongers to be aware of their own STI's or be aware of them.

So really, guys can do as they wish with regards to BB, but it is definitely a roll of the dice.

Hofi35
05-19-10, 22:22
Just my 2 cents. I had BB few times, BBFS in DC, Rio and Orange, I've enjoyed it as much as I could. Didn't really think about the consequences at the time, also had some BBBJ here in NoVa, never completed, and had some BB everything with Michelle from FCCC. Anyone remember her? She was great. I think, if you enjoy it, go for it, but share with us so we don't do it with the same girl as you did. Most of the STDs are treatable now days, but I don't think immediate ER will help.

Pilot Aviator
05-20-10, 00:01
If you've not had the pleasure of being a client of Mona, a word of caution. Mona remembers. For me this is a good thing for those who are not nice to the ladies, it could be less good.

On a recent cold and rainy day I took pleasure by visiting a NoVA AMP conveniently located along one of my usual alternate routes. I did not call ahead today – but it was "no problem. "

Arrival/Greeting (10/10)

Parking – plenty, convenient – discrete entrance – ring the bell inside. Door opens. And I get a hug and a kiss on the cheek from Jeannie (standing in for MMS who was likely out shopping). I am chided for a longer than usual break between visits (see other posts for other visit information at other locations).

I started with a cautious greeting at first and then after assurances all was quiet and well there were smiles and another hug or two as she walked me back to one of the studios in the back. As Jeannie has been my massage provider on many occasions, I was already relaxing as she collected the usual house fee for the hour and left. So I was very surprised when a different lady came in who would be the therapist today. MONA! (and welcome back!)

Mona is fairly typical in size (5'-5", 125#) age (40-ish) and a typical beauty with black medium length hair and perhaps a little more shape than some.

I had not seen Mona since November (I know that because I checked) Mona knew I had not seen her since November. I don't know how she remembers – I am "a nice person" but not that memorable – but not only did she remember my last visit was in November, she remembered in detail the two visits PRIOR to November. Like I said above – Mona remembers – and therefore Mona knew what would make for a great visit for me today.

Mona had taken a 4-month "vacation" (actually shoulder surgery I think) – but she is back now and in great form.

Table Shower (8/10)

A really good wash. Mona remembered I really like the massage to start with a very soapy TS. Water not quite as warm as I prefer – and the table looked like it was different than the last time I was at this lovely Asian spa.

Massage (8/10)

A solid/firm massage for relaxation, medium deep. Back walking. Unrushed.

The middle was not the end and all continued as it should. Pleasant with many smiles.

After. She helped me dress (and I think we all like that help).

Overall (8. 5)

A really nice visit – would have scored higher, but I was out the door almost before I realized it was earlier than the contracted hour. My tip today was appropriate for NoVA standard.

I was the only client when I arrived. It sounded like there were about four ladies available – I am glad it was Mona today. Only one customer arrived while I was there.

Repeatability: very likely

Always be nice to the ladies

PA

Anon Busi
05-20-10, 00:40
More info on this.

http://www.loudouni.com/news/breaking-news/2010-05-14/two-more-loudoun-massage-parlors-closed-problem-human-trafficking-loom

.....
The Polaris Project, a Washington-based non-profit organization combating the different forms of human trafficking and modern-slavery, identified 77 massage parlors by cross referencing their business information against references and advertising on Craigslist and the USA Sex Guide.

Loudoun Sheriff Steve Simpson, having been briefed on the list as well, told the Independent that at least five of these businesses were located in Loudoun County, including the three shut down by the Sheriff’s Office in the last several weeks.

Simpson highlighted the difficulty in eradicating the activity. “We put the pressure on, they disappear,” said Simpson, but “getting enough to make an arrest is very difficult…They know how to work the system.”
.....


After revoking the license of Green Therapy massage parlor in the Cascades area of Sterling April 27, the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office revoked the licenses of two more massage parlors May 11-12.

Police say the businesses are in violation of the Loudoun County Ordinance that governs massage parlors, Sheriff’s Office spokesman Kraig Troxell said.

On May 11, investigators searched Aroma Therapy Massage at 22648 Glenn Drive in Sterling Park and charged Seung J. Oh, 38, of New York, with performing a massage without a license, Troxell said.

The following day, investigators searched Massage Therapy at 47024 Harry Byrd Highway and charged Sin Suk Cho, 47, of Pennsylvania, with willfully placing a hand or hands upon, touching with any part of the body, fondling in any manner or massaging a sexual or genital part of any other person, Troxell said.

The revocation of the licenses of these three businesses is part of an ongoing investigation, Troxell said.

Willett
05-20-10, 09:33
Visited Peach Therapy recently and enjoyed my visit. Nice welcome from the mamasan, and and she escorted me straight into the clean therapy room with soothing music on the background. My therapist Jini or Jenny walks in and collects the fee. Jini is fairly attractive; not a spinner but curvy Korean with a big rear and about 36C frontal assets in my estimation and a decent face. She is not the most attractive Korean lady I've met but I would say she was above the average in the business. She speak good English.

Great shower with warm water, a few moments in the dry sauna and back in the room where she administered good massage on my back followed by a lot of ass play. Nice finish for VA and a little more massage before I was on my way with a smile on my face. Overall positive experience and I will likely return to this establishment.

Andrewsted
05-20-10, 16:22
Just days after the 2 busts in Sterling, a new AMP opened in Ashburn in a very busy hi traffic area/business & restaurant area. I guess it was too late since the lease proly already was signed. Then, after the bust on Glenn Drive, a new one opened up, literally upstairs! The one next to Popeyes is still listing ads on CL. In that bust, they only arrested one person so they really didn't shut down that place i guess. Anywhoo, glad to see there are still places where I can be stimulated while at the same time stimulating the economy. Keep up the good work ladies of the local AMP. And to the Sheriffs office, leave us alone and go out and catch gang bangers, bank robbers, etc.

Justforme
05-20-10, 17:41
Sounds like a fair deal to me!



Just my 2 cents. I had BB few times, BBFS in DC, Rio and Orange, I've enjoyed it as much as I could. Didn't really think about the consequences at the time, also had some BBBJ here in NoVa, never completed, and had some BB everything with Michelle from FCCC. Anyone remember her? She was great. I think, if you enjoy it, go for it, but share with us so we don't do it with the same girl as you did. Most of the STDs are treatable now days, but I don't think immediate ER will help.

MassLover
05-20-10, 21:51
Just days after the 2 busts in Sterling, a new AMP opened in Ashburn in a very busy hi traffic area/business & restaurant area. I guess it was too late since the lease proly already was signed. Then, after the bust on Glenn Drive, a new one opened up, literally upstairs! The one next to Popeyes is still listing ads on CL. In that bust, they only arrested one person so they really didn't shut down that place i guess. Anywhoo, glad to see there are still places where I can be stimulated while at the same time stimulating the economy. Keep up the good work ladies of the local AMP. And to the Sheriffs office, leave us alone and go out and catch gang bangers, bank robbers, etc.

This is what Sheriff Chief Simpson said "They know how to work the system.”
Keep enjoying!

Hofi35
05-20-10, 22:54
Only if they would stay on top of things all the time and never feel too comfortable, than LE would never shut them down. And that stands for both, establishments and mongers.

Banker Boy
05-21-10, 21:54
On a tip from a post below from Andrewsted, I found Magic Spa advertising a new AMP in Ashburn. I went Friday night to TOFTT, and I wish all "TOFTT" visits were this good.

Mamasan answered the doorbell and I recognized her. I'm thinking perhaps she was at Best in Chantilly long, long ago. The place is a typical new-construction NoVA AMP, with 6 rooms and a step-up shower room. (Note: the shower table is constructed on PVC, so it's not very sturdy.)

Michelle walked into my room - at first, I was really surprised. Here was a good looking, energetic Korean girl who looked not a day over 25. Upon closer inspection, I realized she was in her early 30s, but she was looking good. Full bodied like an American girl, with generous and soft C cups and long, thick black hair.

I could hear the guy in the shower room before me was getting an unusually long TS, and I had to wait about 10 minutes chatting with Michelle before the shower was free. Then I got an unusually long TS from Michelle, who did an excellent job. (And I heard the guy after me also got a really long TS, so that's their thing. And it's good!)

Michelle gave me probably the best actual massage I've ever gotten at an AMP. It was on par with professional massages I've gotten at The Four Seasons spas in hotels around the world, and at the spas at the resort hotels in Scottsdale and Las Vegas. It was superb, and really worked out the work week's kinks. It lasted a full hour.

Then the fun began. No FS on the menu, but I did get a wonderful Russian. She did an excellent NoVA finish, too.

So, I TOFTT this visit, and boy am I glad I did! Two thumbs up for Magic in Ashburn. (The only negative: the doorbell rang 4 times while I was there. They were very busy. Oh, and the walls are thin, but that wasn't a surprise for me.)

Price was standard .60 for 30 and .80 for 60. My visit lasted closer to 90, so good value for the money, I thought.

Best regards,
Banker Boy

Black Coffee
05-21-10, 22:25
Only if they would stay on top of things all the time and never feel too comfortable, than LE would never shut them down. And that stands for both, establishments and mongers.It's kinda like the war on terror, the amps have to be right every time but LE has to be right only once.

BC

Ycwinva
05-22-10, 12:10
It's kinda like the war on terror, the amps have to be right every time but LE has to be right only once.

BC

Are the ladies careless or is LE corrupt or both?

If I put unwelcome hands on the cashier's breasts at Safeway, I get arrested.

If I put unwelcome hands on the breasts of a therapist the worst I ever get is "No honey" with a smile.

The girls should just always wait for us to make the first move.

Mspearsva
05-23-10, 10:07
I ran across this video the other day and it was too funny not to share. "Asian Happy Ending Massage Goes Bad" http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1274316335/Asian_Happy_Ending_Massage_Goes_Bad

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EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Jokes thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for Jokes and Humorous stories. Thanks!

AKFourtySeven
05-23-10, 12:46
Es, but "no" doesn't always mean "no".

Nice 499
05-23-10, 12:59
Notice the advertisements for many of the NOVA AMPS on Backpage (and Craigslist) have gotten really sophisticated? I'll bet there is an entreprenuer out there who has convinced the Mamasans of the value that professional webpages bring in attracting mongers to their businesses.

OneHitWonders
05-23-10, 14:36
I ran across this video the other day and it was too funny not to share. "Asian Happy Ending Massage Goes Bad" http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1274316335/Asian_Happy_Ending_Massage_Goes_Bad

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EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Jokes thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for Jokes and Humorous stories. Thanks!


That is just too funny! By the way, The Massage Lady is Way Hot!

OneHitWonders
05-23-10, 14:38
Are the ladies careless or is LE corrupt or both?

If I put unwelcome hands on the cashier's breasts at Safeway, I get arrested.

If I put unwelcome hands on the breasts of a therapist the worst I ever get is "No honey" with a smile.

The girls should just always wait for us to make the first move.


Not sure, most likely both!

Omega0003
05-23-10, 23:09
I wonder where they get the photos they are using. They sure aren't the women working working there.
Notice the advertisements for many of the NOVA AMPS on Backpage (and Craigslist) have gotten really sophisticated? I'll bet there is an entreprenuer out there who has convinced the Mamasans of the value that professional webpages bring in attracting mongers to their businesses.

OneHitWonders
05-23-10, 23:37
On a tip from a post below from Andrewsted, I found Magic Spa advertising a new AMP in Ashburn. I went Friday night to TOFTT, and I wish all "TOFTT" visits were this good.

Mamasan answered the doorbell and I recognized her. I'm thinking perhaps she was at Best in Chantilly long, long ago. The place is a typical new-construction NoVA AMP, with 6 rooms and a step-up shower room. (Note: the shower table is constructed on PVC, so it's not very sturdy.)

Michelle walked into my room - at first, I was really surprised. Here was a good looking, energetic Korean girl who looked not a day over 25. Upon closer inspection, I realized she was in her early 30s, but she was looking good. Full bodied like an American girl, with generous and soft C cups and long, thick black hair.

I could hear the guy in the shower room before me was getting an unusually long TS, and I had to wait about 10 minutes chatting with Michelle before the shower was free. Then I got an unusually long TS from Michelle, who did an excellent job. (And I heard the guy after me also got a really long TS, so that's their thing. And it's good!)

Michelle gave me probably the best actual massage I've ever gotten at an AMP. It was on par with professional massages I've gotten at The Four Seasons spas in hotels around the world, and at the spas at the resort hotels in Scottsdale and Las Vegas. It was superb, and really worked out the work week's kinks. It lasted a full hour.

Then the fun began. No FS on the menu, but I did get a wonderful Russian. She did an excellent NoVA finish, too.

So, I TOFTT this visit, and boy am I glad I did! Two thumbs up for Magic in Ashburn. (The only negative: the doorbell rang 4 times while I was there. They were very busy. Oh, and the walls are thin, but that wasn't a surprise for me.)

Price was standard .60 for 30 and .80 for 60. My visit lasted closer to 90, so good value for the money, I thought.

Best regards,
Banker Boy


Excellent Review! I especially like the spas that provide and offer the Table Showers. Gets me very relaxed for the massage. Very impressive with your remarks for Michelle's massage skills. I am sure she is awesome.

MassLover
05-24-10, 05:11
I wonder where they get the photos they are using. They sure aren't the women working working there.

The photos are copied from some Asian websites. If you look very carefully, you can sometimes find the source of photos, i.e. web address, on one corner.

Ginger Man
05-24-10, 16:01
I have gone to NSP and seen Nana, that is about it. Can anyone tell me if there are any decent ones that are Metro accessable? I am a DC and Maryland hobbyist mostly, but wouldn't mind broadening my horizons.

Thanks in advance, PM is fine.

LatinaLover77
05-24-10, 16:27
I have gone to NSP and seen Nana, that is about it. Can anyone tell me if there are any decent ones that are Metro accessable? I am a DC and Maryland hobbyist mostly, but wouldn't mind broadening my horizons.

Thanks in advance, PM is fine.


If you are visiting DC AMPS, then don't waste your time in VA unless you go to a FCCC. It's too difficult to get FS in VA and you're looking at .40 tip for a handshake goodbye. Stay in DC and enjoy what you pay for.

Pilot Aviator
05-24-10, 21:42
Sometimes a word from MMS can make all the difference!

Lately, rather than visiting my ATF NoVA AMP, I've been a customer at a competitor. Both are convenient and easily within my normal driving range. Both are well reviewed. My ATF is farther from the major routes, but has a better entrance and is perhaps a bit more discrete. The competitor – well, the facility is newer (was brand new less than two years ago) and is very convenient for any NoVA commuter. Today's visit was with the competitor.

I called ahead—MMS sounded very pleased to hear my voice and urged me to come right there ("I know you – of course you can get an appointment") – I was glad for her welcome since I was sitting in the parking lot when I called. I had noticed many cars and thought they might be busy (thus I called rather than just ring the bell)– but, it turns out it was a very quiet day for them – and I was the only customer the entire visit (which lasted more than the hour I asked for, but less than 90 minutes).

MMS answered the door as soon as I rang the bell – so no uncomfortable waiting in the parking lot. Escorted me upstairs, and said she would send up the therapist. (<welcome 9+/10 )

A few minutes passed (no more than two) and Tina came in. Tina is exceptionally thin (think the ultimate spinner-type), maybe 1. 5meters (5. 5 feet), certainly no more than 45Kilos/105lbs. Beautiful long hair – and today all smiles and happiness. It is amazing how much beauty can radiate from a smile, how much personality can show from a giggle or laugh. I think it likely Tina is the same age as me – but she made me feel much younger today. WOW!

Tina did not remember my name, but remembered I had visited recently. After a hello, a hug, and a kiss on the cheek, she wraps me in a towel (I was just dawning the robe as she came in) and we moved across the hall to the shower/sauna.

Tina proceeded to provide me and absolutely exceptional TS – a good 15 minute massage, and even washed my hair and face. In truth, I was so happy with the shower, we could have called it a day and I would have been happy. (<TS 10/10 )

Next follows an absolutely stellar therapeutic massage – one of the best ever at a NoVA AMP. Found the knots, worked the kinks, made friendly conversation, etc. (<Massage 8. 5+/10 )

Conjecture: I think MMS may read this board – and recognized my last couple of posts. (She said something to me about a recent visit that she could have only known if she read it here). I think it likely she told the ladies I was a regular client and was nice to all (therefore everyone could relax). I did not see MMS when I departed – but if I had, the smile on my face and gleam in my eye (and the hug and thank you I would have given her) would have told her all she needed to know about my satisfaction as their client.

Finances:. 8house standard // Tina never looked for my gratuity, but I assume she found the AJ and his two twin brothers.

FINAL WORDS THIS VISIT: I mention frequently in my posts about always being nice to the ladies. That includes MMS, whoever takes care of you, and any of the ladies you happen to see during a visit. I've never been more convinced it does make a difference. I score this visit as a 10 – I was feeling almost lousy when I arrived (hard day at work), and everything everyone did made my day better. I feel a connection now with both MMS and Tina. As long as Tina is at ***, I will ask for her by name.

Go see Tina – and be nice!

PA

Sleazebum
05-25-10, 09:47
If you really NEED to unload your stresses several times over a couple hours, here is the answer!

Roger's GB!

Roger usually has two or more girls available to help relieve all your stress in a group environment.

The cost of admission into the facility is usually $80 and what you do once inside is entirely up to you! Almost anything goes! There are no additional charges for anything once you get inside.

Know that you will not be the only man present so if seeing your brothers is a problem perhaps you should pass this one by.

HOWEVER; I have been to a session and it was absolutely great and I encourage all of you to contact Roger and see about the next session! I was so relaxed after the session that I did not get stressed out again for over a week!

Sessions usually run for about 2 hours on Sunday or Wednesday. I do NOT have any more details to offer so do not ask me!

Phone or Text Roger, The Man himself at 301-252-9677 and he will tell you all there is to know.

Of course, after your session be sure to post your experience here. NOTE - the fee charged is for entrance to the facility only! Everything else once you enter is totally free to enjoy. Sit and watch or jump right in the middle of it all! Your choice!

Maybe I will see you there at the next session!

JJ

Any Mouse
05-25-10, 11:15
I wonder where they get the photos they are using. They sure aren't the women working working there.

I noticed these too... Makes me worry a bit, (of course I am a worry wart!) wondering if the flashy advertising from what used to be pretty much UTR or at least low profile AMPs helps the hobby? I have spoken to a couple of the girls, and they are not happy about it at all. One said: "Phone ring ALL day! Everybody ask stupid questions, like: Do you do everything? Can I get a BBBJ?", then nobody show up!

For my money, anything that brings extra attention to the hobby is not good for me ... don't know how you feel?

AM

Fatpig
05-25-10, 13:06
I noticed these too...
AM

I wish they would post actual photos of the attendants. That would save us lots of time. And help rid of what the market does not want.

MassLover
05-25-10, 16:00
I wish they would post actual photos of the attendants. That would save us lots of time. And help rid of what the market does not want.
That kind of bait and switch game has been going on for long.

Pcpc1688
05-25-10, 16:18
I wish they would post actual photos of the attendants. That would save us lots of time. And help rid of what the market does not want.


If they posted real pics, they would be outta business in 4 weeks, maybe 5 lol

PC out

MrSunnyHills
05-25-10, 19:44
Was in the neighborhood and saw Tr****** Lane and recalled that the address looked familiar. So I ventured into an office park and lo and behold, there was a sign for a familiar establishment. And the door was cracked open. Walked up and to the embarrassment of the gal lying on the bed, she said, "use front door" (well why was the name of the establishment on the back door?)

Well, not having done my research in advance, the MMS answers the door and I don't ask for anyone. Asks if I've been there before, "long time ago". Anyway, wait in the room and in walks a decent looking therapist (the usual NOVA age group). She warmly greets me, asks same question and same answer "long time ago". We walk to the shower room, she warms up the water and I lie down. Good shower - proper spots are washed, especially with a bit of encouragement. And, to my pleasant surprise, she even does a bit of therapeutic rub on the table shower. Back to the room, she's still friendly (a bit more so after my encouragement at the shower).

"What type of massage?" "Hard, first then soft". (had exercised on the weekend so could use a good massagee). Indeed she has strong hands and does a very nice massage. We chat for a bit - I have lived in several of the same spots as she has on the west coast. Similar age kids, etc.

In the end, a very nice finish (though no extra skin is revealed). Will probably try again to see if things progress further. PM for details.

Hofi35
05-25-10, 22:31
I noticed these too... Makes me worry a bit, (of course I am a worry wart!) wondering if the flashy advertising from what used to be pretty much UTR or at least low profile AMPs helps the hobby? I have spoken to a couple of the girls, and they are not happy about it at all. One said: "Phone ring ALL day! Everybody ask stupid questions, like: Do you do everything? Can I get a BBBJ?", then nobody show up!

For my money, anything that brings extra attention to the hobby is not good for me ... don't know how you feel?

AM
I don't understand why would someone ask questions like that over the phone. Just go there and find out inside. Don't care about the pics either, most of us know what we can expect in NoVa places, ladies and services, its all the same, there have been some places(Loudoun) where we could get more, but those do not last long, because some of us do not care, once stop thinking with little head, stop thinking completely. Get the itch go get it scratched. Like the place, post it here discretely, visit again, don't like it, complain here, don't go back.
Too much and too flashy advertising to me is usually too pushy and I avoid, but that's me.

OneHitWonders
05-25-10, 23:57
Sometimes a word from MMS can make all the difference!

Lately, rather than visiting my ATF NoVA AMP, I've been a customer at a competitor. Both are convenient and easily within my normal driving range. Both are well reviewed. My ATF is farther from the major routes, but has a better entrance and is perhaps a bit more discrete. The competitor – well, the facility is newer (was brand new less than two years ago) and is very convenient for any NoVA commuter. Today's visit was with the competitor.

I called ahead—MMS sounded very pleased to hear my voice and urged me to come right there ("I know you – of course you can get an appointment") – I was glad for her welcome since I was sitting in the parking lot when I called. I had noticed many cars and thought they might be busy (thus I called rather than just ring the bell)– but, it turns out it was a very quiet day for them – and I was the only customer the entire visit (which lasted more than the hour I asked for, but less than 90 minutes).

MMS answered the door as soon as I rang the bell – so no uncomfortable waiting in the parking lot. Escorted me upstairs, and said she would send up the therapist. (<welcome 9+/10 )

A few minutes passed (no more than two) and Tina came in. Tina is exceptionally thin (think the ultimate spinner-type), maybe 1. 5meters (5. 5 feet), certainly no more than 45Kilos/105lbs. Beautiful long hair – and today all smiles and happiness. It is amazing how much beauty can radiate from a smile, how much personality can show from a giggle or laugh. I think it likely Tina is the same age as me – but she made me feel much younger today. WOW!

Tina did not remember my name, but remembered I had visited recently. After a hello, a hug, and a kiss on the cheek, she wraps me in a towel (I was just dawning the robe as she came in) and we moved across the hall to the shower/sauna.

Tina proceeded to provide me and absolutely exceptional TS – a good 15 minute massage, and even washed my hair and face. In truth, I was so happy with the shower, we could have called it a day and I would have been happy. (<TS 10/10 )

Next follows an absolutely stellar therapeutic massage – one of the best ever at a NoVA AMP. Found the knots, worked the kinks, made friendly conversation, etc. (<Massage 8. 5+/10 )

Conjecture: I think MMS may read this board – and recognized my last couple of posts. (She said something to me about a recent visit that she could have only known if she read it here). I think it likely she told the ladies I was a regular client and was nice to all (therefore everyone could relax). I did not see MMS when I departed – but if I had, the smile on my face and gleam in my eye (and the hug and thank you I would have given her) would have told her all she needed to know about my satisfaction as their client.

Finances:. 8house standard // Tina never looked for my gratuity, but I assume she found the AJ and his two twin brothers.

FINAL WORDS THIS VISIT: I mention frequently in my posts about always being nice to the ladies. That includes MMS, whoever takes care of you, and any of the ladies you happen to see during a visit. I've never been more convinced it does make a difference. I score this visit as a 10 – I was feeling almost lousy when I arrived (hard day at work), and everything everyone did made my day better. I feel a connection now with both MMS and Tina. As long as Tina is at ***, I will ask for her by name.

Go see Tina – and be nice!

PA

I completely agree! Always be nice to the nice ladies and being nice to MMS can have its advantages. MMS'S can make it better.

A perfect 10 visit is hard to come by these days. Glad your visit was a 10.

Bostonpeter
05-26-10, 01:00
I wonder where they get the photos they are using. They sure aren't the women working working there.I've noticed that some of those photos are of fairly well-known Korean models, etc. I'm guessing they are taken from some fashion website.

Those photos in the advertisement aren't representative, just as the Old Milwaukee Beer isn't going to get you the Swedish Bikini Team.

Eerock
05-26-10, 08:07
I don't understand why would someone ask questions like that over the phone. Some guys get a thrill of calling up and talking like that, including ones who have no intention of going. Same as the too descriptive reviews here.

Justforme
05-26-10, 11:21
In another state about 9 years back, I was a regular at another place. I had two that I spent most of my time with, a cute young K an a you gymnist from Japan.

One day, I showed up and there had both moved on. Back in those days I always arrived early and while I waited I would watch TV and converse with the MMS. I the MMS knew who I like and being that she knew my like brought me the cutest just off the boat K you can imagine. I usually like Organic oral, and I do not know what MMS told the newbie but she did that and then hopped on without suiting up. It was a great time and I hope she felt OK doing so. I hope she was content with what transpired, I held her until the end of my hour and the, then, usual tip was all that was appriciated. I then left in her close and extra for a surprise.

Different, place, day and period. But yes, be good to all especially when they are being truely friendly to you; I hope you are OK Kwan.



I completely agree! Always be nice to the nice ladies and being nice to MMS can have its advantages. MMS'S can make it better.

A perfect 10 visit is hard to come by these days. Glad your visit was a 10.

Justforme
05-26-10, 15:51
I do ask I have been scammed before. I like to know what is on the table specially with all the vague ads. Many, including myself have met girI ls and then after payment you are told, I am an escort, we can go to eat, or talk...

I also ask because I like to get a feel of who I am talking with, some girls are so sweet and considerate over the phone I get stiff just hearing them.

I never make an appointment I do not intend to keep and I just ask discrete basic questions hoping that the girl is a true "carinosa".

I am not sure but I do not think a person can be arrested for promising on the phone....


Some guys get a thrill of calling up and talking like that, including ones who have no intention of going. Same as the too descriptive reviews here.

Brahmabull
05-26-10, 19:16
I do ask I have been scammed before. I like to know what is on the table specially with all the vague ads. Many, including myself have met girI ls and then after payment you are told, I am an escort, we can go to eat, or talk...

I also ask because I like to get a feel of who I am talking with, some girls are so sweet and considerate over the phone I get stiff just hearing them.

I never make an appointment I do not intend to keep and I just ask discrete basic questions hoping that the girl is a true "carinosa".

I am not sure but I do not think a person can be arrested for promising on the phone....

That is fine if you are calling an escort, not a spa. Even then most CL and BP escort ads say no discussion of services on the phone. But since this is the Massage Parlor review forum, we can assume they are talking about spas.

If you are calling a spa ad that has an address in it, you should not be asking if you will get anything more then a massage on the phone and if you ask you can expect 1 of 2 things to happen. 1. They tell you flat out NO. 2. They hang up on you. Probably both.

Phone converstations can be recorded for evidence and simply offering an illegal service is enough to get charged. In VA only 1 party must be aware the conversation is being recorded, guess which side will know.

Sleazebum
05-26-10, 22:57
Arguments in here do not help anyone!

Also - GB is on Thursday this week!!!

Phone number is:

301-252-9677

JJ

Brahmabull
05-27-10, 07:35
Arguments in here do not help anyone!

Also - GB is on Thursday this week!!!

Phone number is:

301-252-9677

JJ

Which MASSAGE PARLOR is offering GBs?

You have cross posted in Nova and DC, in Massage parlor reports, shouldnt this be in Escorts or General?

Just Sayin'

Bayarea Hotguy
05-27-10, 08:14
Which MASSAGE PARLOR is offering GBs?

You have cross posted in Nova and DC, in Massage parlor reports, shouldnt this be in Escorts or General?

Just Sayin'can't you just private message him, and let him know? Maybe its an honest mistake, no need to try to embarrass someone, or try to make yourself feel superior by pointing out someone else's "flaws". Why start trouble in EVERY forum you post in, seriously. I am really tired of seeing you attack other members, please stop. Be a nice Bull, not a mean one, LOL. We are all here for the same reason, not to poke jabs at each other, really. We are all adults here, or should be. Famous quote from the 90's: "can't we all just get along?"

Justforme
05-27-10, 12:15
I would not ask at a Spa. It is a known if you ask when calling them, nothing will happen since "MMS has not idea what goes on in the room"... Yes, I agree, no need for questions for a Spa. It is hit or miss and you are only paying for the therapy when you got to a Spa.... The only question I have ever asked at a Spa is for a preferred provider (or one I was trying to avoid without insulting)

Agreed!


That is fine if you are calling an escort, not a spa. Even then most CL and BP escort ads say no discussion of services on the phone. But since this is the Massage Parlor review forum, we can assume they are talking about spas.

If you are calling a spa ad that has an address in it, you should not be asking if you will get anything more then a massage on the phone and if you ask you can expect 1 of 2 things to happen. 1. They tell you flat out NO. 2. They hang up on you. Probably both.

Phone converstations can be recorded for evidence and simply offering an illegal service is enough to get charged. In VA only 1 party must be aware the conversation is being recorded, guess which side will know.

Sleazebum
05-27-10, 16:41
Just watch how this one little reply to you post get jumped on by "you know who". Some people just insist on displaying their own arrogance all over the place and no form of asking for them to stop will ever work. The best and only answer is to simply ignore these worms and, in time, they will disappear.

Now - watch the flame start!

:)

JJ (I do enjoy poking the hornet's nest too)



can't you just private message him, and let him know? Maybe its an honest mistake, no need to try to embarrass someone, or try to make yourself feel superior by pointing out someone else's "flaws". Why start trouble in EVERY forum you post in, seriously. I am really tired of seeing you attack other members, please stop. Be a nice Bull, not a mean one, LOL. We are all here for the same reason, not to poke jabs at each other, really. We are all adults here, or should be. Famous quote from the 90's: "can't we all just get along?"

Big Daddy Don
05-27-10, 20:29
Just watch how this one little reply to you post get jumped on by "you know who". Some people just insist on displaying their own arrogance all over the place and no form of asking for them to stop will ever work. The best and only answer is to simply ignore these worms and, in time, they will disappear.

Now - watch the flame start!

:)

JJ (I do enjoy poking the hornet's nest too)


Hotguy, while I agree with you whole heartedly, JJ is right. Watch I will be incinerated by the flaming I will get for agreeing with you guys!!

JJ has been around a long time and has much good intel. Like I said on the DC board, Keep the good intel coming JJ!!

Thanks
BDD

Wahooboy94
05-28-10, 00:19
Thursday night, long day at work, decided to reward myself with a visit to one of what seems to be a growing number of AMPs in the NOVA area.

Decided I was in the mood to try a new place and chose Blue Ocean as my destination. Easy to find, right off of Rolling Road.

Rang the doorbell where I was greeted by Maya. I think Maya may also be the Mamasan as well, but I'm not certain. Maya is probably in her 40s, attractive gal. Very friendly. Apparently it was a very slow day and night -- Maya told me she had been waiting for me all day! :-)

Very nice facilities if you have not been there. TS was excellent. Maya toweled me off and escorted me to the room where I received an outstanding, medium to strong massage. The massage easily was worth the price for admission. Threw in some backwalking as well. Superb.

The finish was standard NOVA, but done extremely nicely. Completed the appointment with some final massage of the face, scalp, neck and upper back.

Would I go back? Yes.

Max Beelyun
05-28-10, 01:49
A friend wants to treat me to a Nova outing, mainly because he's a newbie. He's reluctant to go out by himself. The problem is, I'm not sure what kind of reaction we'd get if we both showed up at the same time. Assuming we could get past that, there's the question of what might be expected if there was only one lady working at the time, which is a situation I've run into occasionally. I'm find with sloppy seconds, but I don't know if they'd want my friend to leave right after or if he could sit in the waiting room, or what.

I could list a bunch more questions/concerns, but you get the idea. How would you handle this situation in a way that wouldn't cause anyone undue discomfort, or logistical difficulties?

Fatpig
05-28-10, 06:45
A friend wants to treat me to a Nova outing, mainly because he's a newbie. He's reluctant to go out by himself. The problem is, I'm not sure what kind of reaction we'd get if we both showed up at the same time. Assuming we could get past that, there's the question of what might be expected if there was only one lady working at the time, which is a situation I've run into occasionally. I'm find with sloppy seconds, but I don't know if they'd want my friend to leave right after or if he could sit in the waiting room, or what.
?

Ok Me, and a friend did this a few weeks ago. We both walked into an amp. In Tysons. I picked a place that I visited before. He is a newbie. We just walked, rang the bell and the lady was surprised but they were not busy. We both picked a lady and went to it. I go the shower first while he did the sauna and switched. I finished before him at the end of the hour and waited by the car.

I thought it would of been weird but it was not. As for if there only one lady avail. Then we decided to just leave for another pre-picked location.

Brahmabull
05-28-10, 07:42
can't you just private message him, and let him know? Maybe its an honest mistake, no need to try to embarrass someone, or try to make yourself feel superior by pointing out someone else's "flaws". Why start trouble in EVERY forum you post in, seriously. I am really tired of seeing you attack other members, please stop. Be a nice Bull, not a mean one, LOL. We are all here for the same reason, not to poke jabs at each other, really. We are all adults here, or should be. Famous quote from the 90's: "can't we all just get along?"


Please quote one post where I have attacked a member?

I have pm'd this person recently trying to be polite and it did not go well, he simply repeatedly felt he needed to inslut me despite not one message from me insulting him.

Yet you decide to pass judgement on me without knowing the facts. I do not attack someone I disagree with and I do not insult them if our opinions differ. Just like anyone else who would be corrected for posting in the wrong place, he was informed, and that is all, it was not hostile or impolite.

People who can not take having their mistakes pointed out tend to get overly emotional about it, but that is their own issue to deal with.

Vamassage Fan
05-28-10, 10:28
Tried a place new to CL this month, and had a great time with Mickey; One of best massages I have had, and, sinc eit was first visit, a typical pleasant NOVA conclusion. Got the impression that now that she knows me, future visits can be even more enjoyable..but even if not, the massage alone is worth the visit.

Hofi35
05-28-10, 10:29
A friend wants to treat me to a Nova outing, mainly because he's a newbie. He's reluctant to go out by himself. The problem is, I'm not sure what kind of reaction we'd get if we both showed up at the same time. Assuming we could get past that, there's the question of what might be expected if there was only one lady working at the time, which is a situation I've run into occasionally. I'm find with sloppy seconds, but I don't know if they'd want my friend to leave right after or if he could sit in the waiting room, or what.

I could list a bunch more questions/concerns, but you get the idea. How would you handle this situation in a way that wouldn't cause anyone undue discomfort, or logistical difficulties?
I've done this several times. Mainly in DC. I remember when I was newbie, friend took me to CPHC. Only one lady available, he went first I had to wait 45 min for another lady, then he had to wait for me. Maybe some of you remember that place had waiting area behind curtain with magazines and TV. In NoVa most places do not have waiting rooms so we have to wait in the car. Call ahead, MMS will always let you know. It would be akward if there is only one lady working that day otherwise no discomfort.

Brahmabull
05-28-10, 12:44
A friend wants to treat me to a Nova outing, mainly because he's a newbie. He's reluctant to go out by himself. The problem is, I'm not sure what kind of reaction we'd get if we both showed up at the same time. Assuming we could get past that, there's the question of what might be expected if there was only one lady working at the time, which is a situation I've run into occasionally. I'm find with sloppy seconds, but I don't know if they'd want my friend to leave right after or if he could sit in the waiting room, or what.

I could list a bunch more questions/concerns, but you get the idea. How would you handle this situation in a way that wouldn't cause anyone undue discomfort, or logistical difficulties?


I have gone with buddies a couple times to area spas. To avoid waiting which happens usually for one of us, I call ahead and schedule an appointment with 2 girls. Try to avoid the peak times for the spas (lunch time and right after work 4-6pm). I think if try these tips you shouldn't have a problem or wait/delay.

Nice 499
05-28-10, 20:31
I TOFTT the other day and tried the G&G Wellness on Tyco. The place is very clean with all new equipment and tables. Nana was my provider. It took me a while but I figured out that this was the same Nana that used to work at Papaya. She is a full-figured girl but no fat. She has a great attitude and easy to talk to. TS and massage was great. NOVA finish but with an interesting technique. PM for details.

N

Fatpig
05-29-10, 00:17
As with a past review to G and G. It is nice place. Clean, TS with a soft foam mat. Temparate rooms. Massage was nice and unrushed. Average provider. Full figured K girl. not spinner but not fat. Not to busy here.

Great service and will go back. I have gone here before and reviewed about a month ago here. Discreet entrance and nice location. I was remembered and welcomed by the Mms and providers.

Lovejugs
05-29-10, 00:22
Decided to go to one of my favorite NOVA spots. And unfortunately it was not the BEST. I usually have great service at this place. I was greeted by some new talent, which always gives me a little worry about quality. Late 30's, early 40's. About 5'7" 110lbs. Wearing a casual orange dress. Wouldn't tell me her name. I guess she didn't even want to make up a fake one. TS was long and decent. Massage was good, but a little redundant in certain areas. Then the turn. Got the standard NOVA finish. No roaming was allowed, not even OTC. She told me very sternly that is not her job to let me do that. I was highly disappointed considering this has never happened before at this place. Most talent usually let me act like a baby, if you know what I mean. Then when I was getting dressed she was acting way more friendly for obvious reasons. Come to find out she was drinking the night before and didn't get much sleep, which explains the crankiness. Oh, and I forgot to tell you that she got annoyed when I asked her to repeat what she was saying 3 or 4 times. Like it's my fault you don't speak English well?!?!? Gave .40 which I think was generous considering the limitations put on me. I will definitely ask for someone different next time if she greets me at the door.

Lovejugs
05-29-10, 00:47
After my slightly disappointing visit last Sunday at another place, I decided to make a hop, skip, and a jump and take a Holiday tonight. I arrived at 8:58pm. I remember another post(at another place) warning of going late in the evening. Of course I didn't remember this til the drive home. I have always had good service with You Me and Ruby on several occasions, so I didn't think I had a thing to worry about. As I was coming in Ruby was in her street clothes getting ready to leave. So I was hoping You Me was still there. I was waiting in the room, in walks "The Frumpster". I would guess early 40's. Dressed in a very boring, frumpy black shorts and cheap looking, unsexy top. Very plain face and hair. Looked like she awoke from a nap. TS was ok, but a little mechanical. Massage was extremely short. I would guess around 10-12 minutes. Mind you I paid for an hour. Then came the turn. I asked for a BJ. She started out ok, but then did one of the oldest tricks in the book, switched to an HJ. Was a bit boring for an old dog. As she was cleaning me up she said that she would give a better massage next time. Of course I knew it wasn't her fault, but that the Mamasan wanted to go home early. Very unprofessional in my opionion, but not surprised. Seems like finding consistent service is hard these days. Or at least to me. They figure they can find new suckers each time to put up with subpar service. And they are probably right. I for one am going to take a break from this place for a while. Maybe this is an non-verbal sign to check out some new places? Who knows. I left .40, which was frowned upon. I told her to get the other .20 from the mamasan that ripped me off. I knew my visit was short, but didn't know how until I got and my car and the clock read 9:30! Ripped my off for half my time. Those are the breaks I guess. Sometimes ya win, sometimes you get a timecutting frumpy chick.

Lovejugs

Roamin Roman
05-29-10, 02:32
As she was cleaning me up she said that she would give a better massage next time. ...I left .40, which was frowned upon. I told her to get the other .20 from the mamasan that ripped me off.

LovejugsThe proper reply, when a girl says "better massage next time," is to leave a lesser tip and, when she frowns at it, say to her: "Better tip next time." They will get the point.

RR

Tapas
05-29-10, 08:03
I believe I had the same therapist. Would not give me her name. Hard almost too hard massage. Made sure to let me know she is licensed.

Think the AMPs are being careful to have licensed therapists after the Loudoun debacles. Seems like too much YMMV at AMPs right now.

I will stay with private massage providers at this time. More limited menu but always leave satisfied since expectations are tempered.

Xooom
05-29-10, 21:45
Can confirm Tina is well worth the visit, one of the best massages I have had in awhile. Oh and that bod isn't bad either. Was cut a little short because it got a bit busy right at the end.

Olgnome
05-30-10, 17:17
I had seen this advert on CL several weeks ago and it has continued to appear regularly:

Grand Opening (Mclean/Tysons Corner/Falls Church)

Welcome to our new, clean and safe store!

We offer quality but affordable Asian & Western bodywork and massage modalities.

You will say "Money well spent! " after our service! 703-587-5008

I called them up and found out they are "Massage Enjoy", in the strip mall on Old Dominion Drive at the 6200 block. They are between the Safeway and the big drug store, catty corner from the Starbucks. As they are convenient to me, I decided to TOFTT. Plenty of parking. Acres of it.

I was met by "Wendy", a fortyish Chinese woman (from Beijing, she says), with limited English skills, about a 5 on the 10 point scale. She was cheerful and accommodating. Apparently she is the sum of the masseuse staff; she recommends calling ahead for an appointment.

Rates are 30 mins/$39; 60/$69; 90/$99. My 60 minute session lasted a good 70 minutes. They also advertise foot massages and massages for women and couples. Rooms are fairly spacious cubicles with doors, but do not go to the ceiling. No shower. Generous use of hot towels for clean-up. Face cradle, nicely padded, disposable cover.

I am guessing this place is "therapeutic", but wonder if YMMV. "Wendy" was clear. No HE was allowed, for fear of trouble with the police. That said, she allowed as how "self-service" would be tolerated. Indeed, she was happy to oblige a little light roaming.

The massage was a good relaxation massage, draped, but not intrusively so. If you want deep, Swedish, I think it would be offered. I was content with a medium massage that focused on relaxation. In addition a good massage of the major body masses, lots of time was spent on scalp, temples, chin, ears, hands, feet, neck and shoulders, the areas that set me to purring then send me off to dreamland. When the massage had concluded, she dressed me in the best Asian fashion, and offered a drink of water on exiting.

The rates are good value for money; there are signs posted that tips are appreciated. No request was made of me by Wendy and she seemed happy with the standard therapeutic massage tip that I left. I would repeat.

MassLover
05-30-10, 19:34
I read Aroma is advertising again. Has anyone checked if they are open again?
There are several more new massage parlors open in Loudoun County since Green was closed. It took 6 months of investigation by LEs to bust one, but only 6 days to open a new one. So, don't be sad. party on!

Pcpc1688
05-30-10, 20:48
The proper reply, when a girl says "better massage next time," is to leave a lesser tip and, when she frowns at it, say to her: "Better tip next time." They will get the point.

RR


RR, thats too funny man. Thats exactly what I say too. lol

Service no good, sorry tip no good too. With a :) of course.

They might, but I doubt they will ever get the message. I just pray for a good massagi and give whats due.

In CALI, the standard tip in the $25 hr places is $25-$30 more. The places in VA really fuck us good IMO with that ridiculous $80 house fee. I can get a nice hard massage for a total of .5 with a happy ending from some of my regular massuers. FS from other for .8 to $

VA blows and not in a good way.

PC out

Big Daddy Don
05-31-10, 21:01
The proper reply, when a girl says "better massage next time," is to leave a lesser tip and, when she frowns at it, say to her: "Better tip next time." They will get the point.

RR


RR this could not be a better way to handle poor sevice!!! I agree whole heartedly!

Max Beelyun
06-01-10, 02:11
Thanks for the replies thus far. It turns out my friend is interested in at least the possibility of CFS. Since DC is dead, I'm thinking an FCCC is the answer. Could some kindly soul PM me with a number for a good FCCC? Thanks!


A friend wants to treat me to a Nova outing, mainly because he's a newbie. He's reluctant to go out by himself. The problem is, I'm not sure what kind of reaction we'd get if we both showed up at the same time. Assuming we could get past that, there's the question of what might be expected if there was only one lady working at the time, which is a situation I've run into occasionally. I'm find with sloppy seconds, but I don't know if they'd want my friend to leave right after or if he could sit in the waiting room, or what.

I could list a bunch more questions/concerns, but you get the idea. How would you handle this situation in a way that wouldn't cause anyone undue discomfort, or logistical difficulties?

Hofi35
06-01-10, 08:36
Thanks for the replies thus far. It turns out my friend is interested in at least the possibility of CFS. Since DC is dead, I'm thinking an FCCC is the answer. Could some kindly soul PM me with a number for a good FCCC? Thanks!
FCCC usually have only one girl working at time. At least I have never seen more than one inside. There are some new places in DC. Check CL and BP.

Pete Dagon
06-01-10, 19:49
If you are the kind of guy who leaves .6 under his watch while undressing. If you haggle over/give .4 before/after the festvities, don't bother.

PM for details.

Banker Boy
06-01-10, 20:11
I went to see if Michelle from Magic was available again (see my trip report from the 05/24/10 two pages down). The doorbell was gone, the little sign was gone, and on the window was a hand-written note, "Closed by order of Loudoun County Sheriff's Dept - 05/25/10".

Banker Boy
06-02-10, 20:31
After the closing of Magic, and my dissatisfaction with Best and Holiday, I decided to try an AMP that's been advertising the last few weeks on Backpage - Far East Therapy located just off Rt 50 west of Chantilly and east of South Riding (on the road leading to Pleasant Valley, if you know where that is).

It's new construction, and the place is relatively clean. But that's about all I have to say that's positive. Mamasan is in her late 50s, and the providers aren't much younger. I didn't get names, because I knew I wasn't coming back. They have a sauna, followed by a table shower in a generously sized room. I couldn't see what the table was built on, but it felt like PVC again -- very squiggly and shaky.

I was treated by a mid-40s spinner who weighed no more than 90 pounds. I'm betting 20 years ago she was a very attractive lady. But she gave me one of the worst, least efficacious massages I've ever gotten, followed by the most mechanical and unsensual NOVA finish I remember receiving.

The staff were well meaning, but they're pretty old, and I can't recommend the place at all. I know this report is light on details, but I was very unhappy with my experience and with the provider.

Best regards,
Banker Boy

Low Jack
06-03-10, 13:08
Ventured to Pilot's favorite hang out and met up with Tina. She says she's going to get some bolt ons in August. Nice visit and a chatty provider. She's a bit elderly but her attitude was great. Be nice to her.

LJ

Volvos40
06-03-10, 19:22
So, STERLING WELLNESS CENTER is the old Green's?

Volvos40
06-03-10, 19:25
Yeh, They have never been top-notch, and I thought m-san was 80.


After the closing of Magic, and my dissatisfaction with Best and Holiday, I decided to try an AMP that's been advertising the last few weeks on Backpage - Far East Therapy located just off Rt 50 west of Chantilly and east of South Riding (on the road leading to Pleasant Valley, if you know where that is).

It's new construction, and the place is relatively clean. But that's about all I have to say that's positive. Mamasan is in her late 50s, and the providers aren't much younger. I didn't get names, because I knew I wasn't coming back. They have a sauna, followed by a table shower in a generously sized room. I couldn't see what the table was built on, but it felt like PVC again -- very squiggly and shaky.

I was treated by a mid-40s spinner who weighed no more than 90 pounds. I'm betting 20 years ago she was a very attractive lady. But she gave me one of the worst, least efficacious massages I've ever gotten, followed by the most mechanical and unsensual NOVA finish I remember receiving.

The staff were well meaning, but they're pretty old, and I can't recommend the place at all. I know this report is light on details, but I was very unhappy with my experience and with the provider.

Best regards,
Banker Boy

Hofi35
06-04-10, 09:09
So, STERLING WELLNESS CENTER is the old Green's?
No, check the address

Hofi35
06-04-10, 09:15
After the closing of Magic, and my dissatisfaction with Best and Holiday, I decided to try an AMP that's been advertising the last few weeks on Backpage - Far East Therapy located just off Rt 50 west of Chantilly and east of South Riding (on the road leading to Pleasant Valley, if you know where that is).

It's new construction, and the place is relatively clean. But that's about all I have to say that's positive. Mamasan is in her late 50s, and the providers aren't much younger. I didn't get names, because I knew I wasn't coming back. They have a sauna, followed by a table shower in a generously sized room. I couldn't see what the table was built on, but it felt like PVC again -- very squiggly and shaky.

I was treated by a mid-40s spinner who weighed no more than 90 pounds. I'm betting 20 years ago she was a very attractive lady. But she gave me one of the worst, least efficacious massages I've ever gotten, followed by the most mechanical and unsensual NOVA finish I remember receiving.

The staff were well meaning, but they're pretty old, and I can't recommend the place at all. I know this report is light on details, but I was very unhappy with my experience and with the provider.

Best regards,
Banker Boy
Far East been around for a while, they probably remodeled the place recently to make atleast something fresh and new. I wish they would remodel the staff too. You should have checked posts from last year. Nothing positive about this place. Old, some fat. Waste of time and money.

Fatpig
06-04-10, 12:11
Far East been around for a while, they probably remodeled the place recently to make atleast something fresh and new. I wish they would remodel the staff too. You should have checked posts from last year. Nothing positive about this place. Old, some fat. Waste of time and money.

You missed out on CoCo then. She was smoking hot. Great massage, great service, but she stopped when the tips started to get stingy. To many assholes and she relocated.

Everyone else there was just nasty though. She was a diamond.

Vietnam Girls
06-04-10, 22:59
FCCC usually have only one girl working at time. At least I have never seen more than one inside. There are some new places in DC. Check CL and BP.Maybe this is why I was having trouble Wednesday. I was in the area and gave them a call around 1:00 PM. I was told to come at 3:00, but couldn't stay around that long waiting. I thought maybe they didn't start up until 3:00 since I had never been there before that time. But I couldn't really ask because I didn't seem to be communicating well with the person on the phone. They kept telling me to call again when I arrived. Anyone know if FCCC works particular hours?

Max Beelyun
06-05-10, 00:45
Thanks. I actually have been looking a bit on BP, but nothing pops out as "this is an FCCC". Just independents and ordinary AMPs (I think). Any tips in that regard? I don't like asking for stuff I can find out myself, but I'm clueless -- sorry!


FCCC usually have only one girl working at time. At least I have never seen more than one inside. There are some new places in DC. Check CL and BP.

Hofi35
06-05-10, 08:08
Thanks. I actually have been looking a bit on BP, but nothing pops out as "this is an FCCC". Just independents and ordinary AMPs (I think). Any tips in that regard? I don't like asking for stuff I can find out myself, but I'm clueless -- sorry!
Look in citypaper and check your PM. More detail, hope it helps.

Hofi35
06-05-10, 08:13
Maybe this is why I was having trouble Wednesday. I was in the area and gave them a call around 1:00 PM. I was told to come at 3:00, but couldn't stay around that long waiting. I thought maybe they didn't start up until 3:00 since I had never been there before that time. But I couldn't really ask because I didn't seem to be communicating well with the person on the phone. They kept telling me to call again when I arrived. Anyone know if FCCC works particular hours?
The place near Sears(seven corners) worked 10-11. Since they got shut down I've been to two other locations, they seems to start answering phone around 11am. What time they close, I don't know, but I could get last outcall at 11:30pm.

Amp Bum
06-06-10, 13:43
It's been a while since I've visited the Best place. Or any other for that matter. But the other day I found myself in the area with time to spare. I met Mar*** for a one hour session which lasted exactly that long. All in all I was looking for a good massage and left very pleased. Not much else to report other than an average handshake. Total damage = $.2

AKFourtySeven
06-06-10, 18:19
I got Sharon.40's spinner with a great attitude.Clam Chowder was delicious.

Volvos40
06-06-10, 22:16
Ok, I've dissed this place enough. My regular girl wasn't around, so I role out there, looking for 'Cherry'. Cherry isn't there, but ma-san literally drags me in, claiming she has a nice girl. OMG, Sky walks in, said she'd been here for a month. For all you LE, this is a NICE GIRL. Nothing inapropriate. She is an angel from Korea. So, I'd give her 9. 6 out of 10. Please be nice, and generous. I only did. 8 +. 6, and no issues. Drop dead gorgeous. Ice skater body, 104lbs, 5'-3" and long black hair. Nuff said.

Fred Hertz
06-08-10, 12:49
http://www.loudouni.com/news/crime-report/2010-06-07/three-arrested-leesburg-massage-parlor

Three Arrested at Leesburg Massage Parlor
Fourth Asian Massage Parlor in Loudoun Targeted in Two Months

Officers with the Leesburg Police Department served a search warrant for Cardinal Clinic Center on Friday, June 4, making it the fourth Loudoun County massage business to be implicated in sex trafficking in two months.

A massage parlor

Three women were arrested after deputies searched the facility. Pung Cha Zorn, 64, of Ellicot City, Md.; Young Jo Truman, 44, of Laurel, Md.; and Pyoung Un Roy, 49, of Annandale, were each charged under Virginia Code for Residing in a Bawdy House. Truman and Roy were also charged for allegedly violating Leesburg Town Code 20-33 Unlawful Acts of Massage Therapist.

Truman and Roy remain held on a $3,500 bond. Zorn is held on a $2,500 bond.

MassLover
06-08-10, 22:58
http://www.loudouni.com/news/crime-report/2010-06-07/three-arrested-leesburg-massage-parlor

Three Arrested at Leesburg Massage Parlor
Fourth Asian Massage Parlor in Loudoun Targeted in Two Months

Officers with the Leesburg Police Department served a search warrant for Cardinal Clinic Center on Friday, June 4, making it the fourth Loudoun County massage business to be implicated in sex trafficking in two months.

A massage parlor

Three women were arrested after deputies searched the facility. Pung Cha Zorn, 64, of Ellicot City, Md.; Young Jo Truman, 44, of Laurel, Md.; and Pyoung Un Roy, 49, of Annandale, were each charged under Virginia Code for Residing in a Bawdy House. Truman and Roy were also charged for allegedly violating Leesburg Town Code 20-33 Unlawful Acts of Massage Therapist.

Truman and Roy remain held on a $3,500 bond. Zorn is held on a $2,500 bond.

I thought these Korean providers are "girls", but actually there are around my mother's age.

This store was grand open only a few weeks ago. I admire their courage to offer FS right from the start in such a busy office and close proximity to the Loudoun Sheriff Office. They certainly did not think through their pussies, but brave dicks. Yet, at these ages, what more can they lose?

Guys, don't be sad with the bust! More close down, even more open up. Don't believe me? Look at where Green and Aroma were, they are two new Korean massage parlors open, literally in the same building.

Aman Tuleev
06-08-10, 23:06
Officers with the Leesburg Police Department served a search warrant for Cardinal Clinic Center on Friday, June 4
I don't see here nothing strange. They introduced full extention in menu at the beginning, just you enter the door, that was very unusual.


Three women were arrested ... , 64, ... , 44, ... , 49
And one of them told me that she is 25.

Seems that Lawndown county is not safe anymore.

Stay Safe,
Aman

MassLover
06-09-10, 01:34
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Three women were arrested.......64, 44, 49

Are there any one left who would doubt bird droppings' reports about getting BBFS from these Korean ladies? At these ages, they would do anything to secure their financial future. Poor ladies! They suffer twin risks from health and LE. My tears would fall for them.

Pete Dagon
06-09-10, 08:04
These girls will do anything. Service & attitude improve considerably when enough $$$ is put down on the table.


Are there any one left who would doubt bird droppings' reports about getting BBFS from these Korean ladies? At these ages, they would do anything to secure their financial future. Poor ladies! They suffer twin risks from health and LE. My tears would fall for them.

Hofi35
06-09-10, 11:22
And one of them told me that she is 25.

Seems that Lawndown county is not safe anymore.

Stay Safe,
Aman[/QUOTE]
Don't understand why you're so surprised. I've said many times, there is no 25ish girl working in NoVa, DC, or MD.It's only imagination, thinking with wrong head, tons of make up and dimmed lights. Did you read the ages when they published about Green bust? The only 20ish were the customers. How does it feel, FS with women your mothers age? One of the reasons I do not visit anymore. My last visit at former Bay(Annandale year ago) I had woman in late 50ies, just HJ and I said enough is enough. I'm not that desperate.
Also why so surprised about these busts. While ago I sked here if there are any places in NoVa that offer FS. The response I received was "don't ask stupid questions, u r stupid, or LE, or both, no FS in NoVa, never". Loudoun parlors started to offer this kinda service and both, clients and providers felt very safe and comfortable. DC closings helped also. And here you go. In these office centers, everyone thinks we are hidden, nobody knows, but I think its the other way around. Looks like some people have lots of time to look out the office windows. Just read article about Green again. How did it started. Then Loudoun LE realized what is actually going on.

Rick Sullivan1
06-09-10, 17:48
Guys,

Please do not visit a massage parlor that is located near a doctors office. Examples: Green in sterling, Cardinal in Leesburg, Magic Spa in Ashburn, all of which have been busted in the last couple of months. It draws too much attention. These Doctors offices must go crazy when they see a massage parlor open up next to them. They are dying to get them out of there. Stick to places that are low key like the ones on Tyco road in Vienna. I went to G&G wellness center on Tyco Road on Saturday and there was nobody around. I mean nobody. I could have gotten naked in the parking lot and nobody would have seen me. Or much less cared. Please be smart about it. Nobody wants to see there name in the paper

RS

MassLover
06-10-10, 02:55
[/QUOTE]
The only 20ish were the customers. How does it feel, FS with women your mothers age? [/QUOTE]

This is an interesting and sharp observation!

[/QUOTE]
Also why so surprised about these busts. While ago I sked here if there are any places in NoVa that offer FS. The response I received was "don't ask stupid questions, u r stupid, or LE, or both, no FS in NoVa, never". [/QUOTE]

No FS in NoVa? Everyone and his brother as well as LE know the opposite. Read the news yesterday, prostitution in Loudoun has even caught the attention from a VA Senator.

Among those which have been busted, they started to offer FS after my first or second visits in Aroma.

In Green, if you were there often, you had probably noticed that mamasan sometimes had to turn Korean Rock Music up so loudly, in order to cover the sound of clients busily having sex with her ladies at the same time, while reducing embarrassment of 3 or 4 other customers waiting outside.

The lady in Cardinal Clinic, I believe it is the one who is 49 years old, right after I set my foot inside the door, tried to sell me FS for $600. It was simply a jaw dropping experience!

I asked "what service you will offer would cost so much?" She said "everything". I asked "What is everything?". She replied "if you want, we can do BBFS".

It is well know and talked here that there are still other parlors who have been offering a full menu. One of them has been extremely active in doing so.

I speculate that they are only a hair away from being shut down, because no parlors would survive more than 9 months after offering an extended menu.

I would not mention its name here, as doing so may speed up its death.

If one dares to go to this place these days, I can see he runs an extremely high risk of having his name been published in a newspaper with those Korean "girls" averaging fifty years old. And, he may be the only one who is 20ish.

You probably know which parlor I am talking about.

If one believes that a parlor is safe because we do not talk about it here and therefore LE will not know it, he covers his own eyes blind. As the owner of this forum Jason said, LE knows everything. Indeed, they probably know much better than you and I do.

Check one of the parlors closed recently, it had never been reviewed here. Yet, it got busted anyway.

Ginger Man
06-10-10, 13:27
"The only 20ish were the customers. How does it feel, FS with women your mothers age?"

I have gotten so senior, that I do not enjoy the company of women in their twenties. I feel like they could be my daughter, heck granddaughter!! Also, I have nothing to say to them.

Give me a well preserved woman in her forties, and I am good to go. An experienced provider, one who knows, um, nuances, and good to talk to.

Just different strokes for different folks.

One thing though, it seems to me the age of hobbyists is much less than it used to be. In the past, my perception was that it was an older man's hobby. You generally have more expendable $$, and use the hobby as a change of pace from the home front.

Now, it sounds like a lot of young single guys have bought in. Interesting.

Sleazebum
06-10-10, 16:48
What are you trying to say here?

JJ





The only 20ish were the customers. How does it feel, FS with women your mothers age? [/QUOTE]

This is an interesting and sharp observation!

[/QUOTE]
Also why so surprised about these busts. While ago I sked here if there are any places in NoVa that offer FS. The response I received was "don't ask stupid questions, u r stupid, or LE, or both, no FS in NoVa, never". [/QUOTE]

No FS in NoVa? Everyone and his brother as well as LE know the opposite. Read the news yesterday, prostitution in Loudoun has even caught the attention from a VA Senator.

Among those which have been busted, they started to offer FS after my first or second visits in Aroma.

In Green, if you were there often, you had probably noticed that mamasan sometimes had to turn Korean Rock Music up so loudly, in order to cover the sound of clients busily having sex with her ladies at the same time, while reducing embarrassment of 3 or 4 other customers waiting outside.

The lady in Cardinal Clinic, I believe it is the one who is 49 years old, right after I set my foot inside the door, tried to sell me FS for $600. It was simply a jaw dropping experience!

I asked "what service you will offer would cost so much?" She said "everything". I asked "What is everything?". She replied "if you want, we can do BBFS".

It is well know and talked here that there are still other parlors who have been offering a full menu. One of them has been extremely active in doing so.

I speculate that they are only a hair away from being shut down, because no parlors would survive more than 9 months after offering an extended menu.

I would not mention its name here, as doing so may speed up its death.

If one dares to go to this place these days, I can see he runs an extremely high risk of having his name been published in a newspaper with those Korean "girls" averaging fifty years old. And, he may be the only one who is 20ish.

You probably know which parlor I am talking about.

If one believes that a parlor is safe because we do not talk about it here and therefore LE will not know it, he covers his own eyes blind. As the owner of this forum Jason said, LE knows everything. Indeed, they probably know much better than you and I do.

Check one of the parlors closed recently, it had never been reviewed here. Yet, it got busted anyway.[/QUOTE]

Hofi35
06-10-10, 20:25
"The only 20ish were the customers. How does it feel, FS with women your mothers age?"

I have gotten so senior, that I do not enjoy the company of women in their twenties. I feel like they could be my daughter, heck granddaughter!! Also, I have nothing to say to them.

Give me a well preserved woman in her forties, and I am good to go. An experienced provider, one who knows, um, nuances, and good to talk to.

Just different strokes for different folks.

One thing though, it seems to me the age of hobbyists is much less than it used to be. In the past, my perception was that it was an older man's hobby. You generally have more expendable $$, and use the hobby as a change of pace from the home front.

Now, it sounds like a lot of young single guys have bought in. Interesting.
You see I'm not at that point yet. I like young chicken better than well aged steak.
To me it looks like young guys now days got very lazy, easier to go lay down on massage table and have the woman work on you, than go hunting to a bar. Plus its sure thing, if LE doesn't show up.
Regarding my question about FS, at that time I was newbie to this forum, just came back from establishment in Alexandria after having FS there and was trying to find another one by asking here. Instead of PMs I have received response mentioned below.

Aman Tuleev
06-10-10, 22:35
Really, I do not much care about FS in AMP. I am into real hard massage with back walking, hot towels. May be little roamig. I do allow BJ and DATY only with providers I do know well. But hard massage first.

When I need FS, I am going to one of providers, who are specialized in that kind of activity. The service quality is much better, and there are no upsell.

Now, when You going to AMP, provider is doing couple lazy passes on You and tells to flip over. And, after those multiply shutowns in VA, it is very hard to find right place to get real massage. That's completely sucks.

Just 2c.

Stay Safe,
Aman

MassLover
06-10-10, 22:52
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]What are you trying to say here?

Sorry for my unclear writing. I want to say, be careful out there!

Shutting down 5 parlors in Loudoun in a few weeks is unprecedented. Meanwhile, politician talked about every day we drive by one prostitution front. It means they are very serious, and probably more to come.

Vietnam Girls
06-10-10, 23:41
This is very true. One of the FCCC locations used to be in a building on the same floor as a doctor office. You come off the evevator and the doctor office was right there, with a big glass front to the receptionish and anyone else inside could see everything as you went to the door downthe hall and waited for someone to answer.

I had only been to that location once and was uncomfortable with the location. It wasn't that many weeks afterward I heard they were busted.


Guys,

Please do not visit a massage parlor that is located near a doctors office. Examples: Green in sterling, Cardinal in Leesburg, Magic Spa in Ashburn, all of which have been busted in the last couple of months. It draws too much attention. These Doctors offices must go crazy when they see a massage parlor open up next to them. They are dying to get them out of there. Stick to places that are low key like the ones on Tyco road in Vienna. I went to G&G wellness center on Tyco Road on Saturday and there was nobody around. I mean nobody. I could have gotten naked in the parking lot and nobody would have seen me. Or much less cared. Please be smart about it. Nobody wants to see there name in the paper

RS

Sleazebum
06-11-10, 12:34
Thanks for clearing that up for me! Sometimes us old farts get confused really easily!

JJ


[QUOTE=Sleazebum]What are you trying to say here?

Sorry for my unclear writing. I want to say, be careful out there!

Shutting down 5 parlors in Loudoun in a few weeks is unprecedented. Meanwhile, politician talked about every day we drive by one prostitution front. It means they are very serious, and probably more to come.

Computer Luvvv
06-11-10, 14:41
There is really no crime in Loudoun, so they have nothing else better to do but set up DUI traps and bust SPA's, but they can't seem to solve the very few murders that have happened over the past 15-18yrs in the county. I have chilled on the Loudoun scene as of late, go see "private" chicks now. I do slip into a place here and there but at certain hrs and times(base on experience, etc). Got caught up in a bust one time but never was charged with anything(over in DC), yeah, dude saw my ole mil ID and said "get the fuck out of here", Loudoun is very hott now.

Nikos2
06-12-10, 17:13
I am having a great time in Brooklyn, AMP are all over the place and cops don't give a shit! Take this ad they blatant show the employees and advertise tableshowers.

http://www.massage18ave.com/massage18_emplyees.html

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Notronmexico
06-12-10, 17:26
Revisited Papaya for the first time in awhile. I discussed with mamasan that I was less than pleased with Judy before in the looks department, she brought me Tina. "Younger" looking woman (relative in massage therapist terms) with handsome features. I was not altogether impressed but found her attractive enough.

Her service was very good though. Attitude was kind of quiet and didn't seem overly enthusiastic, but she gave an excellent massage and the finish was good. Included some Russian and she didn't give up despite some overtime being required to complete. And she never complained. I find many girls get tired easily or frustrated but she just redoubled her efforts. Tipped $. 7 for her efforts.

Would definitely repeat.

Fatpig
06-13-10, 01:00
I am having a great time in Brooklyn, AMP are all over the place and cops don't give a shit! Take this ad they blatant show the employees and advertise tableshowers.

http://www.massage18ave.com/massage18_emplyees.html

Perhaps, you guys can take a day trip to Brooklyn, DC area is dead! So long mofos.This is what I am talking about. Showing the employees so I can pick before I go. No reason to not do this. Someone stated before that they would close down in weeks. WHAT. For what reason. I am not saying put on the website that they suck cock and will tongue your asshole. Even many legit places show employees so you can pick when you book.

BTW these girls not so great. There may be alot of them but they still all shitty quality.

Brahmabull
06-13-10, 10:35
I am having a great time in Brooklyn, AMP are all over the place and cops don't give a shit! Take this ad they blatant show the employees and advertise tableshowers.

http://www.massage18ave.com/massage18_emplyees.html

Perhaps, you guys can take a day trip to Brooklyn, DC area is dead! So long mofos.I don't know about Brooklyn, but cops are actively shutting them down in Long Island. I have visited many. I do not think TS are illegal in NY, I would have to check on this but many have a TS.

Justforme
06-13-10, 15:04
About their hussle; anything like NOVA? Do they ask for more to do less? How much are the standard tips in those areas?

Maybe you can recruit some for this area.



I am having a great time in Brooklyn, AMP are all over the place and cops don't give a shit! Take this ad they blatant show the employees and advertise tableshowers.

http://www.massage18ave.com/massage18_emplyees.html

Perhaps, you guys can take a day trip to Brooklyn, DC area is dead! So long mofos.

Sleazebum
06-13-10, 16:11
Let's keep the New York stuff in the New York forum!

This is Northern Virginia!

JJ


About their hussle; anything like NOVA? Do they ask for more to do less? How much are the standard tips in those areas?

Maybe you can recruit some for this area.

Justforme
06-13-10, 16:13
Since he wa in NY maybe he can bring some new diversions to the Northern VA area. We are losing NoVAs best to Uncle LEO.

Sleazy, Since it was posted here I responded here!


Let's keep the New York stuff in the New York forum!

This is Northern Virginia!

JJ

Nikos2
06-13-10, 17:59
Since he wa in NY maybe he can bring some new diversions to the Northern VA area. We are losing NoVAs best to Uncle LEO.

Sleazy, Since it was posted here I responded here!Thats fine! I have never been welcome on this freaking board. I have been to several AMPs so far same the bullshit conversation like where are you from. Well I said DC area. Consistently they would tell me that they go city to city mostly big cities like LA, Chicago, Miami but none mentioned DC. I guess DC is being avoided.

As far as the difference. If you want a knockout girl, I am talking flawless with top notch massage and quality 250 easy that includes tip. However, you be hitting a 20-25 year old and that includes everything. I would say it is well worth the price. If you want to compare same apples to apples as you would get in VA 30ish same massage service you could probably get it cheaper. Don't forget Queens is also a haven for AMPs, funny their is probably more AMPs their but I am overwhelmed enough in Brooklyn. I thought I was doing you guys a favor by opening your eyes to what is out there but I guess like before you don't like input on this board. I have lived in DC Area for about 14 years commuted to Loudoun for 7 and thought well maybe I throw you guys a bone. That's it you guys can have your board back. I won't post here. I haven't posted in shit like 3 weeks (I guaranteed some idiot is going to verify that claim). Fine have it you way. So long mofos hope you have a good time with the 30ish that are left. I get to pick and choose some 20ish to blow my wad. Just check out backpage New York and see what you are missing out. My friends are all ready clamoring to come visit.

Hofi35
06-13-10, 22:13
I am having a great time in Brooklyn, AMP are all over the place and cops don't give a shit! Take this ad they blatant show the employees and advertise tableshowers.

http://www.massage18ave.com/massage18_emplyees.html

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No need to drive to Brooklyn for that, same age like NoVa, or MD,or DC, just take closer look again. Its good to see the employees beforehand so I can keep looking and take my money elsewhere though.

A John
06-14-10, 06:28
Their is much younger girls but this is not it!!!
Not one of the girls here is under 30`s


I am having a great time in Brooklyn, AMP are all over the place and cops don't give a shit! Take this ad they blatant show the employees and advertise tableshowers.

http://www.massage18ave.com/massage18_emplyees.html

Perhaps, you guys can take a day trip to Brooklyn, DC area is dead! So long mofos. [Deleted by Admin]

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Brahmabull
06-14-10, 08:12
As far as the difference. If you want a knockout girl, I am talking flawless with top notch massage and quality 250 easy that includes tip. .

For 250.00-300.00 you can get a hot young escort here. No need to travel to New York. There are girls who come through all the major cities in this price range. But at these prices you are out of the AMP and into escort territory. There are many agencies and indy girls in that range.

Cavetroll
06-14-10, 13:03
If you want to compare same apples to apples as you would get in VA 30ish same massage service you could probably get it cheaper. Don't forget Queens is also a haven for AMPs, funny their is probably more AMPs their but I am overwhelmed enough in Brooklyn. I thought I was doing you guys a favor by opening your eyes to what is out there but I guess like before you don't like input on this board. Wow, this guy is all kinds of touchy. Grammar and spelling could use work, too. I give this post a "check-minus" grade.

Pcpc1688
06-14-10, 14:31
Their is much younger girls but this is not it!!!
Not one of the girls here is under 30`s


I would say in their 40s is perhaps more true, lol

Why in the hell is Nikos over here giving us some BS about Brooklyn anyway? Day trip to Brooklyn, I rather take a daytrip to Saint Martin in the Virgin Islands. Younger and much cuter hoes 18-22 and much better pricing....hehe

PC out

Banker Boy
06-14-10, 21:49
I visited V&P tonight for the first time in quite a while. I went when they first opened. (It was so new then, the provider was a first-timer I think, as she asked me what the locals tip around these parts. I told her 20-40 for a HJ, and 100 and up for better service.) I didn't like their stand-up shower, and in two subsequent visits, had two bad experiences. (One where I got a massage and nothing else. "All done now." huh? A second time they were all full.)

So fast forward many months and I visited today to see they have changed management, replaced the standing shower with a mini table, but still have decent facilities. (The towels are really poor, though.) I was seen by the mamasan, who was in her mid 40s. I forget her name already. She gave me an ok TS, followed by a (welcome) hard but mediocre massage. The flip started out normally, but before I could say "ummm, ok" I had a face full of mamasan's uncovered crotch. She wanted DATY, so I obliged, while she finished me.

If you can deal with the older NoVA provider who is a 2 in the looks department, it was a decent experience all-in-all. I'd give it a 5 out of 10, I guess.

Banker Boy

Fatpig
06-15-10, 09:34
I had mostly good here at V&P but was scolded repeatedly for giving reports. I would say 3 out of 4 trips there were very good. MM your talking of still wearing back brace? or she gone now.

Glad they have ts now. That makes it better place. I have not been in over a year since the last review of it I gave.

Nikos2
06-15-10, 11:46
I would say in their 40s is perhaps more true, lol

Why in the hell is Nikos over here giving us some BS about Brooklyn anyway? Day trip to Brooklyn, I rather take a daytrip to Saint Martin in the Virgin Islands. Younger and much cuter hoes 18-22 and much better pricing....hehe

PC outI guess like before, nothing I say is true, none of it, DC was never had an AMP bubble, ever, never. I think it popped in 2001 soon after Sept 11th. Nobody believes me. This article is complete false, all those AMPs I mentioned that existed in Montgomery Co and other never existed ever. The shit happening in Brooklyn doesn't exist.

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/4017.html

Oh by the way, Prague is the place to go! Nothing I see is true!

Nikos2
06-15-10, 14:10
Article quotes “More than 40 Asian massage parlors--mostly Korean” if I read this correctly this is just DC alone. How many are left as of today? I bet if you take all of MD-DC-VA combined you can’t get anywhere near that number.

How many do you count from this link http://newyork.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ ? So I am lying? Granted these included all over the Tristate Area Queens/Manhattan/Brooklyn. So I ask you I am lying? Do you not think NYC is a AMP haven. You guys parse everything but fail to see the big picture. I thought you guys are hobbyists. Don't you want to go where the action is? If you get on the Delta Shuttle for $150 a 45 minute flight you can freaking have the time of your life. How many of you guys go to Atlantic City and blow 1, 000 playing craps or blackjack? Seriously, do you guys just go home and freaking waste away. Do you guys live or just commiserate away. Whatever take it at what its worth I go where the action is and Virginia is NOT where it is.

Pilot Aviator
06-15-10, 14:42
Last week was high stress.

I called my favorite MMS.

I went to my favorite place.

Mona made the day much better with a great massage and a smile that let me know the rest of the week would be better.

I have noted before that Mona has a memory that defies belief. But on this visit, I remembered something from our second visit. That memory resulted in laughs and good feelings.

Mona. Thanks a lot!

For the bretheren. Standard rates for the house for an hour.

A great TS.

A superb massage from a lovely lady.

Go to your ATF places. And remind the ladies we appreciate them.

And BE NICE TO THE LADIES

PA

Brahmabull
06-15-10, 17:24
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/4017.html



hmm

By Chris Vogel Published Tuesday, November 01, 2005


Things that were true 8 months ago are long gone or not true today. This hobby is always in flux like that, so clearly 5 year old information is well... 5 year old information.

If we could go back to yesterdays many of us would but we can so there is no real reason to dwell on the past, it is no longer 2005.

Justforme
06-15-10, 17:46
I know this to be real and that no matter how much is given out as TIPS, VA / DC is last on the circuit for these ladies. They start as innocent 20s but once they get here they are hard (not bodied) 30s and 40s... I have mentioned this at times and the fags on this board tried to ite my dick off for it. Sorry if you took offense in why I wrote but I was really trying to back what you wrote in a NY sacastic tone

Enjoy your time and bring back some quality!


Thats fine! I have never been welcome on this freaking board. I have been to several AMPs so far same the bullshit conversation like where are you from. Well I said DC area. Consistently they would tell me that they go city to city mostly big cities like LA, Chicago, Miami but none mentioned DC. I guess DC is being avoided.

As far as the difference. If you want a knockout girl, I am talking flawless with top notch massage and quality 250 easy that includes tip. However, you be hitting a 20-25 year old and that includes everything. I would say it is well worth the price. If you want to compare same apples to apples as you would get in VA 30ish same massage service you could probably get it cheaper. Don't forget Queens is also a haven for AMPs, funny their is probably more AMPs their but I am overwhelmed enough in Brooklyn. I thought I was doing you guys a favor by opening your eyes to what is out there but I guess like before you don't like input on this board. I have lived in DC Area for about 14 years commuted to Loudoun for 7 and thought well maybe I throw you guys a bone. That's it you guys can have your board back. I won't post here. I haven't posted in shit like 3 weeks (I guaranteed some idiot is going to verify that claim). Fine have it you way. So long mofos hope you have a good time with the 30ish that are left. I get to pick and choose some 20ish to blow my wad. Just check out backpage New York and see what you are missing out. My friends are all ready clamoring to come visit.

Justforme
06-15-10, 17:51
Can I get the airfare for the cost of a tank of gas?



I would say in their 40s is perhaps more true, lol

Why in the hell is Nikos over here giving us some BS about Brooklyn anyway? Day trip to Brooklyn, I rather take a daytrip to Saint Martin in the Virgin Islands. Younger and much cuter hoes 18-22 and much better pricing....hehe

PC out

Sashimi
06-15-10, 21:02
Can I get the airfare for the cost of a tank of gas?
Cheapest flights w/room for a week is about $1200.

Guido For Life
06-15-10, 21:40
1. One near Tysons Corner across from Marshall HS.

> NO GFE. No covered BJ. Rush job. Late 20's. 60 plus 25 tip.

2. Fairfax across from IHOP and RT 50.

> No GFE. No covered BJ. Provider late 30's/Maybe 40. Couldnt get aroused because of her ugly face.

3. Same area. One office over.

Greeted my last 30s fairly hot. Said come back in a hour all girls busy. Came Back. I wanted to F*ck her. She was not available, sent in a 5. Methodical massage. No GFE. Provider gave lame BJ. With more blowing then sucking. When I finished, some hit the sink to the right. She didn't wipe it down.

Fatpig
06-16-10, 08:58
> No GFE. No covered BJ. Provider late 30's/Maybe 40. Couldnt get aroused because of her ugly face.
.


If you didnt like her why did you not just walk out before? If there is not a provider I like I walk out and fine a new place. I always have a backup.
This really does not make sense to me.

OneHitWonders
06-16-10, 11:48
Last week was high stress.

I called my favorite MMS.

I went to my favorite place.

Mona made the day much better with a great massage and a smile that let me know the rest of the week would be better.

I have noted before that Mona has a memory that defies belief. But on this visit, I remembered something from our second visit. That memory resulted in laughs and good feelings.

Mona. Thanks a lot!

For the bretheren. Standard rates for the house for an hour.

A great TS.

A superb massage from a lovely lady.

Go to your ATF places. And remind the ladies we appreciate them.

And BE NICE TO THE LADIES

PA


So True! Some ladies have great memories and will remind you what they remember. Having ATF places does have advantages like you mentioned. I like the fact that I can depend on the same lady providing a great massage!

Sometimes (not always), some unfamiliar places can feel like you just waisted your hard earn money on a terrible massage and service.

Like you said, Always be nice to the ladies! As True Gentlemen should be.

Low Jack
06-16-10, 14:39
Just got back from seeing Rube in Falls Church. Nice little thing who massages with her boobies. Really quiet girl but speaks good english. You can see her ad in eros. Nice session although the elevator sux.

Wahooboy94
06-16-10, 21:21
Found myself in Tysons last night. Enliven, Ivy or G&G? Decided G&G based on the good reviews I had seen as of late.

Great location for those of us that do prize discretion.

Walk in, ring the bell, greeted by attractive Mamasan. Takes me by the hand (very warm hands) and says she will set me up with Angie and promises a great massage. I notice a very pretty gal on the way to my room and wonder who was that. Mamasan takes me to room #5 where I pay for the hour, she pats me on the rear and instructs me to undress.

By the way, love the facility. Brand new, nicely decorated and furnished. Looks great. Really like the cushioned massage table.

Before I'm done undressing Angie comes in. Attractive, nice figure, probably early 40s. Hugs me and gives me kiss on the neck. I grab a towel and she takes me to the shower room.

It looks like the shower room is set up for table showers, but she gives me a standing shower and scrub. I like TS, but this works for me too. I used to get the same treatment at Backlick Holistic about two years ago when I used to see DeeDee and always enjoyed it. Angie gives me a very thorough and soapy scrubbing. Rinses me off and as I wrap myself in my towel, Angie pulls back the curtain of the shower room and there is that pretty gal just standing there. She gives me a big smile and tells me she likes my eyes. Zowie.

Angie takes me back to my room and helps dry me off. Tells me that everyone loves Angie. "Angie gives good shower, Angie gives good massage, Angie gives good...."

I assume the position. If you like a strong massage and you're a big guy like me, this is probably up your alley. Angie worked me over good. Maybe a tad strong. Used her elbows quite a bit on my back -- almost hurt to be honest. I think that is the reason why some areas are feeling a bit sore the next day. Very strong hands though. Finished off with some backwalking which I always find very welcome.

Eventually moved on to some light strokes and caresses. Turns me over. Finish was standard but very nice with a twist.

Helps me dress. Gives me a big hug. I leave the tip on the table and get escorted out. I give the Mamasan a thumbs up. She tells me she will see me next week. I laugh and tell her maybe next month. I walk out and daydream about that pretty gal who liked my eyes.

Would I recommend. Definitely. Would I go back. For sure.

Volvos40
06-16-10, 21:38
Went out here last weekend. On a wish. A wish that a young nubile would be there.

Fulfilled. Her name was Sky. A K-goddess wrapped in white cloth. Mam-a-son had to drag me me in, cuase Cherry wasn't in, and I went in. OK, Ts was 8.0 , and massge was 8.0, but she was a ex-korean ballet dancer, just thin and built. Beautiful muscle tone. Face and hair to die for. I am serious. Standard NOVA finish. .6 tip, seemed pleased.

Yeah, I'll go back.

Volvos40
06-16-10, 21:40
Good shot right ?


1. One near Tysons Corner across from Marshall HS.

> NO GFE. No covered BJ. Rush job. Late 20's. 60 plus 25 tip.

2. Fairfax across from IHOP and RT 50.

> No GFE. No covered BJ. Provider late 30's/Maybe 40. Couldnt get aroused because of her ugly face.

3. Same area. One office over.

Greeted my last 30s fairly hot. Said come back in a hour all girls busy. Came Back. I wanted to F*ck her. She was not available, sent in a 5. Methodical massage. No GFE. Provider gave lame BJ. With more blowing then sucking. When I finished, some hit the sink to the right. She didn't wipe it down.

Volvos40
06-16-10, 21:41
Does Mona read these ?


Last week was high stress.

I called my favorite MMS.

I went to my favorite place.

Mona made the day much better with a great massage and a smile that let me know the rest of the week would be better.

I have noted before that Mona has a memory that defies belief. But on this visit, I remembered something from our second visit. That memory resulted in laughs and good feelings.

Mona. Thanks a lot!

For the bretheren. Standard rates for the house for an hour.

A great TS.

A superb massage from a lovely lady.

Go to your ATF places. And remind the ladies we appreciate them.

And BE NICE TO THE LADIES

PA

Volvos40
06-16-10, 21:43
Right, she doesn't want the attention. It has gotten a little lame recently.


I had mostly good here at V&P but was scolded repeatedly for giving reports. I would say 3 out of 4 trips there were very good. MM your talking of still wearing back brace? or she gone now.

Glad they have ts now. That makes it better place. I have not been in over a year since the last review of it I gave.

Volvos40
06-16-10, 21:45
Agree. Save gas.


No need to drive to Brooklyn for that, same age like NoVa, or MD,or DC, just take closer look again. Its good to see the employees beforehand so I can keep looking and take my money elsewhere though.

Vietnam Girls
06-17-10, 21:03
Went for a visit to FCCC this afternoon and was greeted by XiXi. She was rushing a little more than I would like in the beginning. But, I took my time to finish up with here. She finished up with more massage that maybe wasnt fantastic, but it wasnt bad either.

I did ask about BBBJ CIM and she said she doesnt do that. It did seem like she would do CBJ CIM, but I didn't want that. She also seems to be an "its and exit not an enterance" sort of girl.

XiXi's english is ok, but she didn't understand everything I said.

Aman Tuleev
06-17-10, 23:37
Walk in, ring the bell, greeted by attractive Mamasan. Takes me by the hand (very warm hands) and says she will set me up with Angie and promises a great massage.
tee-hee ... You would not beleive, but mamasan's name is Angie too.
Next time, when You will come here it will be a topic for a joke.

Stay safe,
Aman

Pcpc1688
06-18-10, 13:17
Article quotes “More than 40 Asian massage parlors--mostly Korean” if I read this correctly this is just DC alone. How many are left as of today? I bet if you take all of MD-DC-VA combined you can’t get anywhere near that number.

How many do you count from this link http://newyork.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ ? So I am lying? Granted these included all over the Tristate Area Queens/Manhattan/Brooklyn. So I ask you I am lying? Do you not think NYC is a AMP haven. You guys parse everything but fail to see the big picture. I thought you guys are hobbyists. Don't you want to go where the action is? If you get on the Delta Shuttle for $150 a 45 minute flight you can freaking have the time of your life. How many of you guys go to Atlantic City and blow 1, 000 playing craps or blackjack? Seriously, do you guys just go home and freaking waste away. Do you guys live or just commiserate away. Whatever take it at what its worth I go where the action is and Virginia is NOT where it is.


NIkos,

Dude, what I am simply saying is that you dont have to be the Spokesperson for MPs in Brooklyn, NY. This is the NOVA board. Perhaps brotheren in Brooklyn would appreciate your comments more?

IMHO, Nova sucks and I live here, lol Overpriced entry fees and many(90 of 93) therapists over 40. Seems like this is the place for girls to go after their FS prime years.

Anyhoo, I have been to many places in Flushing etc and the girls were much younger but FOB(fresh off boat). I can remenber many 20-23 yr old cuties.

All comments are opinions only :)

PC out

Pcpc1688
06-18-10, 13:28
Can I get the airfare for the cost of a tank of gas?


Uhhh, nope. However if you goto Macau, you will get the most beautiful 10s in their 20s that you have ever seen at any MPs here.

Cost $2500 and sauna fees $200 per visit

Memories = Priceless.

PC out

Guido For Life
06-18-10, 17:41
If you didnt like her why did you not just walk out before? If there is not a provider I like I walk out and fine a new place. I always have a backup.
This really does not make sense to me.Thought that if i closed my eyes and imagined a thai porn star doing it everything would be okay. I was already undressed when the hag entered the room. Greeted by chick who fairly hot.

Pilot Aviator
06-19-10, 10:30
Usually my schedule only permits me to visit the AMPs in the afternoon or evening, but one day recently my planned activities ended at 10: 15 in the morning with the next several hours unaccounted. So, I called a place I've visited before and by 10: 30 I was being welcomed by the MMS as the first customer of the day. Gents (and please, be gents when you visit!), a morning appointment can result in a stellar visit -- and for me, this visit rated a 10.

Now, some have sent me PMs that say I am "easy" on my ratings. For those critics, stop reading now. Bottom line, I visited an AMP where I am a known customer and I know the staff. I had a visit I enjoyed.

Arrival: 10

MMS (L***), M*****, T*** (and I think S**) were all downstairs when I arrived.

No delay at the door, hellos from all, hugs from MMS and M***** and T***. MMS and T*** walked me to studio 4 upstairs (I had called and asked for an appointment with T***)

Standard rate for the hour. MMS returned with change the same time T*** started to walk me to the TS.

TS – 10

Just long enough (truly, I could have spent the hour on the TS and been happy). Lots of soap, suds, bubbles, some chat, some laughs. A thorough rinse, dry and back across the hall.

The sauna is very nice – still looks as new as the first time I visited here – and I still have not taken the time to sit in the dry warm heat – maybe in the winter.

Massage – 10+

T*** told me to lay-down and just relax. So, I did what I was told, I relaxed. She found knots in my calves and legs that, once released felt so very good. She spent considerable time on my lower and upper back with direct pressure that was deep, but not too deep. Her usually very good technique was excellent today.

Near the end, a really nice head/neck, ear massage that I always enjoy because it is so relaxing.

T*** is over 40, very thin, with very long dark hair, incredible bright eyes and a smile that makes me happy to be her "ATF" (even if only for that hour). Her face is flawlessly beautiful. I have seen her several times. I will definitely continue to repeat.

Departure 10

I heard another client arrive about 10 minutes before I departed. MMS and T*** made sure everyone's privacy was respected.

T*** has never commented on gratuities. Today I left standard*2. Today I was very happy to be extra nice to this lady.

MMS held me at the door as some cars were moving around the lot. Gave me a "squeeze" and a peck on the cheek and I was back in my car 70 minutes after I'd left it. I noted moments later another client parked and rank the bell. I know in reality I am just another client – and so (assuming he was a regular visitor) I am certain he had a fine visit also. As he walked in my closing thought was "never wear shorts to the AMP if you are an over-60 visitor, " and so I was glad I was wearing dockers this day.

Details

F/B/A/S. All 10s.

T*** is over 40, very thin, with very long dark hair, incredible bright eyes and a smile that makes me happy to be her "ATF" (even if only for that hour). Her face is flawlessly beautiful. I have seen her several times. I will definitely continue to repeat.

In NoVA, southern gentlemen and northern Yankees can unite in our understanding that respect and a little generosity (and over-generosity on occasion) is the way we act to always be nice to the ladies.

PA

PS. I don't remember the name of the little white dog, but considering the way he was held and carried by L***, M***** and T*** I think it might be fun to be reincarnated as an AMP Pet.

Redlaw
06-21-10, 05:33
I had my first Nuru experience this weekend, here in Nova. If you don't know what it is, look it up on the net and you will find some videos of Nuru Massage. It was a blast and I will try it again in my private life if I can find some of that goo for home use. Pm me for details. Some of you already know since you where the ones that told me.

Thanks guys!

Da Buull
06-21-10, 11:29
had a massage by Soo. massage was great, Soo is a sweet lady with a smokin hot body. rated a 7.5 out of 10.

Sac4422
06-21-10, 17:21
Rip off

Don't waste time.

$. 4 out in 18 min. Start and end with he. She says yu pay for 1 hr but the session lasts typically 20 min.

Same exp at tao spa damage was $ for 20 min

Roamin Roman
06-22-10, 01:23
had a massage by Soo. massage was great, Soo is a sweet lady with a smokin hot body. rated a 7.5 out of 10.Agree with this 100%. I have ALWAYS received a good, solid massage at ATMB. I usually stop by after workouts at the gym. The ladies are not young chicks, but they know how to work out the kinks. Worth a try, if you want a great massage.

R::R

Any Mouse
06-23-10, 00:30
Is this some new service you have your girls trying out to just get more customers? Why don't you just come out and say so? Is this Pinkie who does Nuru? If so, don't think I'll give it a go.



I had my first Nuru experience this weekend, here in Nova. If you don't know what it is, look it up on the net and you will find some videos of Nuru Massage. It was a blast and I will try it again in my private life if I can find some of that goo for home use. Pm me for details. Some of you already know since you where the ones that told me.

Thanks guys!

Sac4422
06-23-10, 17:01
I meant Lucia not Vivia.


Rip off

Don't waste time.

$. 4 out in 18 min. Start and end with he. She says yu pay for 1 hr but the session lasts typically 20 min.

Same exp at tao spa damage was $ for 20 min

Sleazebum
06-24-10, 00:08
What's wrong with Pinkie?

JJ


Is this some new service you have your girls trying out to just get more customers? Why don't you just come out and say so? Is this Pinkie who does Nuru? If so, don't think I'll give it a go.

Jack Webb
06-24-10, 10:08
What's wrong with Pinkie?

JJHi Sleaze,

Are you talking about Pinky Allure who advertises on ******** and eros or is this a different "Pinkie? " Pinky A at the usual Alexandria place was awesome when I saw her. Without going into detail, if you like a more Indian look to your Thai companion and a very enthusiastic partner, she'll fit the bill (you guys who like extra letters in your acronyms will like her). Anyway, wrong forum for an escort since this isn't an AMP, but just wanted to make sure you're not thinking of the same woman. I'm trying to quit, but Pinky A might drag me back in unless you know something that's "wrong. "

Thanks

Revolver703
06-24-10, 11:44
What's wrong with Pinkie?

JJAnybody know anything about them? greatly appreciated!

Sleazebum
06-24-10, 12:54
Looks like the same girl.

JJ


What's wrong with Pinkie?

JJ