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Computer Luvvv
12-30-09, 14:33
Forgive me Mr. Very Senior Member, but it is a completely classless move to come on here and insult the vast majority of people by calling them "cheap" and imply that they are less than decent people for tipping AMP girls the exact amount that is established throughout the area. You may be a big spender, but that doesn't give you the right to insult everyone else for paying the normal amount.
The AMP business is just like any other tip-based service. There are established tipping guidelines for every such industry, and the established amount should get you courteous service every time. I doubt that under their breath the providers are cursing at us for giving them no more, but no less than, what they expect. Just like you wouldn't expect your waiter to spit in your water for tipping him the standard 20%, you wouldn't expect AMP technicians to give less than an honest effort for their standard. 4 tip. Would waiters be thankful for the Hollywood types that come in and tip them out a thousand dollars each? Sure. But they wouldn't be looking down their noses at the normal folks who expect courteous service at the 20% rate. And just because there are lavish folks out there who will be more than generous with their servers doesn't mean that the rest of us are not decent people. Money doesn't grow on trees for some of us.
You may be getting better treatment than the rest of us, and it's up to every man to decide for himself what kind of bang he wants for his buck. If you think you can justify spending this kind of money by saying that you are getting better service than the rest of us, I would have to say that I cannot imagine what a standard AMP girl could possibly do in an hour to earn Smart Phone's kind of generosity. But I will never drop that kind of cash at an AMP so I guess I'll never know. From having RTFF I can tell you some of the places where I would go if I had that kind of money to spend, but it is for damn sure that it wouldn't be an AMP. I would sooner consider saving up and calling Eliot Spitzer for recommendations.
If you say that you think the tip amounts are unreasonably low, I would respond by saying that their sufficiency can be shown by comparing them to the hourly rate the massage parlors set (a 50% tip on the hour) or the cost of other services freely priced by independent providers (a total of $. 2 for NoVa service versus an average of $$ for full service charged by comparable providers). Prices have no significance in a vacuum; they only make sense in relativity. The standard treatment that we get at AMPs falls somewhere in between full service and a purely therapeutic massage, and it would make sense for its total cost to fall somewhere between the cost of those benchmarks. I think that the. 4 tip achieves this outcome quite well.
Finally, I can imagine that you might enjoy the look on the face of your provider when you surprise her with a hefty tip. I can understand that sentiment and I would admire you for it, but unfortunately I cannot afford to do the same. I would hope that everyone concerned (viz. The providers and the big tippers) would recognize that this particular pleasure is a function of your generosity and how well off you are financially, and STOP INSULTING or looking down on those who cannot afford to partake in the same.
For all the other folks, I wouldn't worry about this guy screwing things up for the rest of us. If I were a waiter and someone dropped a wad of cash on me for a tip, that wouldn't cause me to expect every diner who walked through the door to do the same, or even for them to increase their tips by a little bit. I am sure she realizes that this was an extraordinary event, and the fact that his tip was so outlandishly large would only help her see that.
WTAnd not every one makes over 150k a year or whatever, so there is a "normal" tip and you know that dude. Be kind to those who make less cash, sir.
Computer Luvvv
12-30-09, 14:35
This was his first experience, he knew what to expect and what to tip and felt it was worth the $$$. I don't think this will suddenly cause the prices to go up. I don't think his provider will suddenly think her services are worth more because of this and raise her prices. Granted, this was WAY above what is typical for the services he received, but, it's his money.Reason said, allthough some of us mite cut back, they will still see 8 guys a week and at 100bux a pop that aint bad for "better endings"
Computer Luvvv
12-30-09, 14:36
King is a rare gem in Sterling! But, please keep it secrete. You know good things do not last long here.The time I go, they sure try to.
Computer Luvvv
12-30-09, 15:01
Tried this out as the ad said new staff young on cl. oops my bad yes it is new but not young at all. Entered and got ts (new from last time I go when it newly opened) from mms. Short K but bolt on looked really nice. She was stocky. TS was ok and uninspiring. Inside the room I wait 15 minutes and in comes Ann(?). The rub was even more UN-inspiring as the TS. last 10 minutes. On the flip she could not work any magic and I have to really focus. Roaming no really encouraged and she acted like no english was understood. I was pissed and left only a .2. I left more stressed than I walked in.
They did say NEW younger girls coming in next week. So if anyone does try them let me know. I will not TOFTT at this place again.I went there a few weeks ago and got a nice young thang who recognized me from another place,but hell that aint "new" either huh? but she was 20ish.
Vamassage Fan
12-30-09, 17:07
If you visit the FairfaxCounty.gov website, the latest crime incident report ( http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt )
shows 9 arrest for "massage establishment" violations
And although tedious to search, the "crime mapping feature at http://www.Fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/
Indicates these were at multiple locations.
All the names appear asian. LE activity appears to have intensified.
Been awhile so forgive the rust. :D
Bay Therapy's star that left in early Nov. has resurfaced, for those interested and know who I speak of and I know you, PM.
A great visit!! +
MnV
They have a stand-up shower. I've used it before. I must have gotten the same person the last time I was there because she also offered me a younger, better looking provider for my next visit.
Gave 112 another look. Still closed. Back in the car & headed down the road to Venus. First visit. Met at the door by Kim. Nice greeting, walked back to the room. Asked if I've visited before. Right or wrong I always confess to being a first time visitor but offer that I've frequented the place down the street. She replied, "112"? I say yes & she reveals that they're permanently out of business due do an unfortunate run in with Leo.
Kim's 40ish. Decent build but a funny looking set of bolt-ons. Once in the room, she asked for the hr fee, asked me to get ready and disappeared out the door. Surprisingly (to me) she reappears about 45 seconds later. No shower was offered. My research tells me there may not even be a shower at this locale. She gives a nice massage. Firm. Asks for a lot of feedback. "is that ok? ", "not too hard? ", etc Nice back walk. After about 40 mins, stnd NoVA finish w/hot towels to tidy up. Asks for tip up front. That's never happened before? Didn't feel like getting into a fuss about it, but thought it was a little unusual.
While getting myself back together, she offers there's another girl. Jenny. She introduced me to her on my way out. They both made nice and asked for a return visit.
F 5. Showing age
B 7. Tight, but I had a problem with the enhancements
A 7. Nothing extraordinary. Miss a TS, though
M 8. Works hard, good technique
S 8
A 8. Good attitude, nice provider
Both she & Jenny were very nice. I may return because of that and the fact that the location is convenient. That said, I'm still looking for a favorite and will continue to look. If anyone has any advise, much appreciated.
Thanks all!
Pilot Aviator
12-30-09, 22:06
Ruby made my end of year visit to my ATF AMP an experience to celebrate.
Ruby is well reviewed -- so most will know she is reasonably attractive, reasonably proportioned and gives a very good relaxing massage.
However, those that may be considered regular clients also know that Ruby is a lot of fun -- perhaps the best attitude of all the nice people at Kim's.
Arrival: 10
I called for an appointment, but traffic made me 10 minutes late (not that anyone cared). Ruby answered the door -- and smiled -- maybe I am delusional -- but, it makes me smile to believe she is actually happy to see me.
Some Christmas bantering, checking Christmas Packages, a hug -- "an hour and a shower today?" she asks -- "of course" I replied -- gave her the 0.8 house fee.
TS: 9+
OK, I was going to score this a 10, but my 10 won't be your 10 --- suffice it to say, a great TS, everything clean --- and, because she knows I like it, about 10 minutes of back massage under the hot water, with the soapy, bubbly hands and arms.
A hot towel on my shoulders and back to the room for the massage.
The phone rings -- she points to the room knowing I can find my way, and when she returns (only a minute or so), I am face down ready for the massage.
Massage: 8
Check my other reviews for technique, etc. She is good.
Enjoyment -- for many reasons, on my final visit for 2009, I rate this experience a 10.
Farewell: well, I am going to rate this as a 8.5, because I actually left at less than an hour. I thought I had been there almost 75 minutes, so in no way did I feel shorted -- just was not a full 60 minutes.
May your New Year celebrations be enjoyable -- and please always be nice to the ladies
PA
Computer Luvvv
01-01-10, 09:04
Simply said, saw Sunni (hadn't seen her since Aug) good time, too bad I didn't have any hardware.
Got to throw this out. Aroma in Sterling does a great medium-to-hard massage, I think best in the area, always get the full hour. Cherry is adorable 4-9" girl with a great attitude and smile. Standard finish but the massage is the best in the area. Enjoy.
Saw couple of adds at CL.infomuch appreciated.
Thanks
First I'll start off aplogizing for not reporting as much as I should. It just that I always tell myself to not even bother with the NOVA massage parlors. Why? I can't find a provider who has a massuese under 40. I always end up giving in.
Tried a new one in Vienna. You will know which one it is by their CL ads and they use a lot of "xxxxxxx" in the ads. I get there and a pretty girl answers and says there is a wait of 30 min. I say I'll wait and she directs me to sit on the couch which is right outside both massage rooms. Real awkward since I could hear everything and after the walk-out would be weird since I woud have to see on of you.
I leave and wait in the car. The girl I did see was pretty and I sensed a FS viB. I was actually excited so I withdrew more $. I walk in 25 min later and walk by one of you coming out. Older, long sportcoat. Sorry for not holding the door.
I knock and another girl answers. She is not like the first girl. Old, like high 40's. Now I am kinda disappointed already. I get in and she immediatly flashes me her to half. Never had that happen before. I pay her for an hour and she checks my wallet and asks me if I have enough for tip. This could be a good sign or bad. Not sure at this point. No shower offered.
Massage was decent. Not great. They have a clock in there so I knew I was only there for 25 min before the flip. She asks for the tip right away. I HATE that. So now I ask her if she does "everything" and she whispers "Everything but". I give her. 6. She wants another one, I give her. 8. So what do I get? A standard NOVA with roaming.
What a bad experience. I left 1. 6 less in my wallte for a standard NOVA that took 30-40 min.
Sorry for maybe disclosing too much detail but I am so sick of the upselling from these old hag providers that I really don't care if Leo reads this.
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Free Mickey
01-02-10, 15:13
Got to throw this out. Aroma in Sterling does a great medium-to-hard massage, I think best in the area, always get the full hour. Cherry is adorable 4-9" girl with a great attitude and smile. Standard finish but the massage is the best in the area. Enjoy.Anybody know if this happens to be the same Cherry from Virginia Physical Therapy? She had a similar height, fairly young, super cute and super smooth skin.
If so, this is great news. I have been wondering where she went.
Asiandude1
01-02-10, 20:54
Can anyone recommend the best Korean place in town? FS only, please.
I am moving to DC for a job next week from the great state of Hawaii and will surely share all the information I gather.
I just discovered this site and will be reading everything.
Mongeroose
01-03-10, 08:53
Visited CMT on a cold rainy morning before Christmas. Walked in and greeted by Sarah who appeared to be the only one working. She was a bit more liberal during this second session than last time (see previous post). Her hands are great. Gave. 2 over std tip in the holiday spirit.
Wahooboy94
01-03-10, 12:57
Greetings and Happy New Year to all of you!
I've been a regular at CTM for much of this year. Like Pilot Aviator, I typically look forward to a very relaxing hour spent with Sarah.
My last visit was the week leading up to Christmas. It had been raining that day and I had time available so I decided to run over to CTM and see how Sarah and Judy were doing that evening. As I pulled in, Sarah was driving off, probably dinner I figured. This was okay with me as I had previously visited with Judy in October and had a very enjoyable time.
I walk in and it is just Judy and me. She gives me a big hug and takes me to my room where I pay for the full hour. Judy has got to be in her 50s, but like Sarah, she is an attractive woman if you like older gals and is extremely sweet and personable and chatty.
She escorts me to the shower room and gives me a very hot and soapy TS. Maybe not as good and thorough as Sarah, but still nice. Back to the room and to the table where I receive a strong massage, much stronger than the light massages I normally get from Sarah. The touching is very sensual, Judy has me turn over where she delivers a very nice finish.
If you are looking for more than a relaxing massage and standard finish, than CTM is not for you. If you like a pleasant and sweet provider with excellent hands and a nice finish, than I recommend you give CTM a try.
Brahmabull
01-03-10, 16:04
Can anyone recommend the best Korean place in town? FS only, please.
I am moving to DC for a job next week from the great state of Hawaii and will surely share all the information I gather.
I just discovered this site and will be reading everything.
IF you are moving to DC and are looking for a spa "in town" you should post in the DC section, not NOVA. Also you need to read that forum 1st, you have no post history and you will be flamed for asking for information without giving some. DC is in trouble now, many places have closed. Go to the DC board and do your research.
Happy New Year~
Asiandude1
01-03-10, 16:34
IF you are moving to DC and are looking for a spa "in town" you should post in the DC section, not NOVA. Also you need to read that forum 1st, you have no post history and you will be flamed for asking for information without giving some. DC is in trouble now, many places have closed. Go to the DC board and do your research.
Happy New Year~Thanks for the info. I am working in DC but my apt is in Fairfax County. Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
Can anyone recommend the best Korean place in town? FS only, please.
I am moving to DC for a job next week from the great state of Hawaii and will surely share all the information I gather.
I just discovered this site and will be reading everything.The flight from Hawaii is a long one, so you will have plenty of time to print off both the DC and NOVA MP reports and read them on the flight.
Went to King before New Year. Parking lot was almost full and with quite a few pedestrians milling about so I went around and parked in the DMV lot and walked over.
Ring the bell, mamasan showed me in and promised a very beautiful girl. Moments later, Sophia came in and she does look very young and pretty and she told me she was Korean, 26 and normally worked in Hawaii but is in NoVa for the time being due to the low client numbers over there. Her English isn't great but we can communicate fine. I paid for an hour (0.8), got a good TS, but the place was a little cold when I stepped out, which made me become a little self-conscious.
The massage was first-rate, hot towel for 5-10 minutes, then she started with my feet and calves and also did the walk over my back. It was really intense and I was actually a little sore the next day. She said she actually went to massage school and learned her craft that way, I am a relative newbie but from my experience, this is a rarity. But so is a 26-year-old around here.
Finish was standard but excellent for me. I'd give her grade of 9 across the board except for personality 7, but that had more to do with her language skills since there wasn't a whole lot of chit-chat going on, but she did try hard to provide a GFE.
I was in the area on Saturday afternoon so I decided to give this place a try. It's a store-front operation in a small shopping center just south of the FFx/PW border on Rte. 28. I was met at the door by Kim, who took me to a room and asked for the house fee .8 for an hour. Her English was a bit hard to understand. The table shower was very thorough but felt a bit rushed. Plenty of attention to all the right places. Back in the room she covered me with a towel and gave me an OK massage and then asked me what else I wanted. I said "Everything" and she asked "How much you pay me?" I said $ and she didn't complain. The rest of the session was very good, in several positions and I left with a big smile on my face. Kim is a very sweet person who knows exactly what to do and does it very well. It's a long way from home but I'll go back whenever I'm in that area.
Oldtar
That place is in PWC and has already been raided a few times under previous management.
Watch your back!
JJ
I was in the area on Saturday afternoon so I decided to give this place a try. It's a store-front operation in a small shopping center just south of the FFx/PW border on Rte. 28. I was met at the door by Kim, who took me to a room and asked for the house fee .8 for an hour. Her English was a bit hard to understand. The table shower was very thorough but felt a bit rushed. Plenty of attention to all the right places. Back in the room she covered me with a towel and gave me an OK massage and then asked me what else I wanted. I said "Everything" and she asked "How much you pay me?" I said $ and she didn't complain. The rest of the session was very good, in several positions and I left with a big smile on my face. Kim is a very sweet person who knows exactly what to do and does it very well. It's a long way from home but I'll go back whenever I'm in that area.
Oldtar
First I'll start off aplogizing for not reporting as much as I should. It just that I always tell myself to not even bother with the NOVA massage parlors. Why? I can't find a provider who has a massuese under 40. I always end up giving in.
Tried a new one in Vienna. You will know which one it is by their CL ads and they use a lot of "xxxxxxx" in the ads. I get there and a pretty girl answers and says there is a wait of 30 min. I say I'll wait and she directs me to sit on the couch which is right outside both massage rooms. Real awkward since I could hear everything and after the walk-out would be weird since I woud have to see on of you.
I leave and wait in the car. The girl I did see was pretty and I sensed a FS viB. I was actually excited so I withdrew more $. I walk in 25 min later and walk by one of you coming out. Older, long sportcoat. Sorry for not holding the door.
I knock and another girl answers. She is not like the first girl. Old, like high 40's. Now I am kinda disappointed already. I get in and she immediatly flashes me her to half. Never had that happen before. I pay her for an hour and she checks my wallet and asks me if I have enough for tip. This could be a good sign or bad. Not sure at this point. No shower offered.
Massage was decent. Not great. They have a clock in there so I knew I was only there for 25 min before the flip. She asks for the tip right away. I HATE that. So now I ask her if she does "everything" and she whispers "Everything but". I give her. 6. She wants another one, I give her. 8. So what do I get? A standard NOVA with roaming.
What a bad experience. I left 1. 6 less in my wallte for a standard NOVA that took 30-40 min.
Sorry for maybe disclosing too much detail but I am so sick of the upselling from these old hag providers that I really don't care if Leo reads this.
TopAt first I thought you were talking about Youngs near Tysons (provider checked your wallet for tip) since I had that happen to me once at Youngs. Bonnie/Bunny was her name, a real hustler. But I see the place you are referring to is more towards Fairfax than Tysons.
You need to get yourself a "monger wallet", a second wallet where you just have your drivers license and just enough cash to get what you want. Maybe hide an extra 20 or 40 in one of the inside folds in the wallet.
Smart Phone
01-05-10, 02:55
I'm a firm believer only I live in my skin. I usually take good care of my providers as well. This brings a lot of benefits later down the road. I understand some people are on a budget but don't jump on someone's ass for doing what they think is right!
She will serve your cheap ass the same as she always as for the same .4 that you always give her. Meanwhile under her breath she will be thankful for the decent people. I now some of you will say it's a waste of money, drive the prices higher, bla, bla, bla.
Some of us don't mind being nice, and that's all it is.
It may have been a little much but only you know so for now on just keep what you spend to yourself.
Trust me the only person that will reap the benefits will be you.Thank you sir! Those were my thoughts exactly. I always try to create a long term relationship with establishments I visit, whether it be a nice bar, resturant, etc. Taking good care of the people that serve me food and drinks. In the long run, I probably saved a lot of green from all the food and drinks on the house over the years. Bringing in groups of friends and getting rounds of drinks on the house is great, especially lighter on the wallet when the bartender notices me or my friends trying to work our game on some ladies (failing miserably 80% of the time.. okok 95%) and throwing down drinks without us asking (on the house to boot - granted we tip them well for that). It's a nice feeling, for me anyway, to go to a well known establishment (in DC for my case since I work there) and be pampered like royality. They don't try to twist my arm and get me to dish out wads of cash, they know I'm a regular and in the long run will make their business more profitable versus weaseling me out of a few bucks.
This goes to the point of where you said the only person that reap the benefits is you which I whole heartly agree. In all the social engagements I've been to, this is a proven fact for me.
They will remeber you, and put more effort into accomdating your needs. With that said, I understand everybody is different and has different wants and needs and completely understand if they were upset on my post. I can't change the past or change my habits but since this is becoming a new hobby of mine and trying to decipher the CIA type lingo here, I'll have to play by ear and experience stuff for the first time myself to get use to how things are done in this field.
This isn't a post about what was right or wrong, its just experiences I've had through my life that reaps me benefits with establishments I regularly visit in a general sense.
So after two weeks of avoiding this forum section like the plague so I wouldn't have to start off my day on a bad foot reading replies from disgruntled members (which is completely understandable after realizing why some people would be upset), I came back to find a member's ID to PM them and couldn't resist catching up on the forum.
With all this said, I recently went back to the same place with the same provider because I felt we had unfinished business there (I bet some of you who read that last sentence is saying to yourself, hell yeah that fool does have unfinished business there). I packed all the hardware I needed just to be ready - I honestly didn't know what to expect so brought everything and came really late - I called probably 20 minutes til closing and asked if I should still come and the old lady said it was fine when she asked who it was. I guess she remebered my name from last time or just wanted the business.
I came and saw my provider and we hugged and talked and asked how I have been. It was pleasent, felt like we knew each other for a long time considering this was my second visit with her and to a MP. This time around she was familiar with me and really pampered to my needs. I still really don't know the lingo you all use and am not the type to blantly sprut the obvious so I was dancing around things like what she wanted to do or felt comfortable with etc. She understood this time and I pointed to my pocket jacket, indicating the hardware I brought, and thus the rock and roll started. When it was all done and over, I pulled out the tip and gave her *censored* this time around and she shoved it back in my pocket and said no need to worry, mimicking what I said to her last time. I was like whoaa. At first I thought she was joking and gave it to her again but she refused. She was serious or maybe was playing. I ended up saying I had a blast and she deserved it and pushed it to her again. Still a no go, at this point I was thinking - is this karma? is this the proven fact that I've gone by all these years explained above? Finnaly a 4th time I pushed it to her and said, it'll make me happy because I had a wonderful relaxing time with you and she succumbed and pulled out a fraction of the total (random little crap u can buy at 7-11) instead and went ok I will take only this, if you don't agree I don't want. I beamed a happy smile hugged and said I'll see her next time.
If you think about it, if you're a long term customer that has always provided the standard rates or a long term customer that has provided good rates to sometimes dumbass rates (yeah I did that once...:)), you'll both recieve perks regardless since you're long term customers... its all YMMV.
I think it was smart on her part, very business oriented. Hook in a semi-new customer for the long term with perks here and there. I won't even go into detail on the rock and roll since I've read some posts on people going "DUDE WAY TOO MUCH INFO".. haha.. this forum sometimes cracks me up... I read this one post about some guy was like, "DUDE 70 YEAR OLD GRANDMA BATHING ME"... it still cracks me up just thinking about it..
Anyway, this post is long as hell. Just thought I'd share this tidbit of info. Take it for what it is and again sorry for all those guys that were upset from my original post - I can't change it but still stand by it even if it was wayy too much. Live and learn!
Smart Phone
01-05-10, 03:31
I think this is fiction to stir things up, written by the same sort that comes here complaining of getting STD's and bragging about abusing the ladies. Wasting their hour upon the stage, It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.Understandable. Everybody has their opinions and I'm the type that takes a lot of things found on the internet with a grain of salt. Anything is possible, it could be true or fake - can't really prove my report to strangers on the net considering I'm still new and don't have any credibility. Maybe my latest post (novel actually, it was pretty long after I finished) could help sway you or not; not saying it was my goal to and not saying your opinion don't matter, just putting things into a different prospective - words on the internet can be misinterrupted. Regardless, believe it to be true or fake, it is your prerogative.
Anyway, this post is long as hell. Just thought I'd share this tidbit of info. Take it for what it is and again sorry for all those guys that were upset from my original post - I can't change it but still stand by it even if it was wayy too much. Live and learn!What possible benefit can any reader of this forum get from this post and the increasing number of others like it? Please post information.
You need to get yourself a "monger wallet", a second wallet where you just have your drivers license and just enough cash to get what you want. Maybe hide an extra 20 or 40 in one of the inside folds in the wallet.
Why do you need a wallet at all? You are not driving and don't need license. I put $80 in my right pants pocket and whatever I think my biggest tip will possibly be in the other.
If a massagee lady tried to look in my wallet or demands tip upfront before start of massage, I ask for $80 back & I leave.
Things are not going to end well there anyway and there are several great places to spend your money.
Dynefreelance
01-05-10, 19:32
I decided that I had a bit of cash to spend on myself after seeing my family for the holidays (yes, this is from like a week ago). So I took a trip to MT for a little personal enjoyment. Called 15 min ahead of time to book an appointment with the girl I saw last time.
She answered at the window when I rang the bell. She didn't recognize me from my last visit, and asked my ID again. Most people think I look 10+ years younger than I actually am, its actually quite annoying. Though to be honest I can't really blame her since it was 2 months ago or so. She took me to a room and had me undress, ect. Their table shower wasn't working the last time I came, so it was a good experience this time around. The massage afterwards was a lot lighter and shorter than the last time.
On the flip she ask me what I wanted, which was FS. Left $. 4 on the table while she left for a second. BJ application was short but deep. Started with CG and finished with Mish. I noticed she was on the Rag afterwards. She claimed that it had started just now, which I don't know if I believe. Though I don't remember seeing anything when we switched positions. I should have demanded some of that tip back but I left it at that. It may be time to try someplace else when I'm in NOVA.
Went to celebrate Grand Opening.
Brand new clean environment.
Saw M*******
NOVA std +
Unfortunately, the "tip discussion" had to interrupt the proceedings.
May return to investigate the other therapists.
Pilot Aviator
01-05-10, 22:53
I returned today to CTM for my first visit of the new year. Judy and Sarah both said hello, and, Judy was my therapist today.
Judy is mid-30+ish, pretty, a nice smile, good firm hands, skilled in massage.
I paid for the hour and after a fine TS, returned to the room for massage.
I was surprised by the light massage today (as last time Judy used a medium-firm techique). A nice massage on the back and neck and legs. Turn over. Very good abs chest, legs and arms massage.
After, I asked for some more massage on back with lotion because my skin is dry in the winter. Judy worked some good lotion (I think it is the same stuff I have at my house).
Pleasant to the end, Judy helped me dress and I started to leave.
Judy chased me down. She did not see her tip. I told her it was there. She chased me down again, she still couldn't find it. It was there. Sarah helped her find it. It was under the clock. Same place I always leave my tip (including the last time I saw Judy)
Sarah chased me down to give me a hug. It is obvious to her I am not really happy. Sarah knew this was the 2nd time I had seen Judy, and the 2nd time Judy had significantly shorted me on massage time. Sarah (in her role as MMS) appreciates I never make a fuss / there is never any drama associated with one of my visits because Sarah has been my therapist for almost two years. Sarah also knows I won't come back if Judy is my therapist. So, I'll be back on Sarah's table in the future or I'll be somewhere else.
Remember. YMMV. I know other fans of this hobby who think Judy is just great. And she may be, but not for me.
Final reminder. ALWAYS be nice to the ladies. We have the option to find another provider // they are not going to connect well with every client. Judy gave me a fine massage. I just don't like being short-timed.
PA
LatinaLover77
01-06-10, 17:13
I decided that I had a bit of cash to spend on myself after seeing my family for the holidays (yes, this is from like a week ago). So I took a trip to MT for a little personal enjoyment. Called 15 min ahead of time to book an appointment with the girl I saw last time.
She answered at the window when I rang the bell. She didn't recognize me from my last visit, and asked my ID again. Most people think I look 10+ years younger than I actually am, its actually quite annoying. Though to be honest I can't really blame her since it was 2 months ago or so. She took me to a room and had me undress, ect. Their table shower wasn't working the last time I came, so it was a good experience this time around. The massage afterwards was a lot lighter and shorter than the last time.
On the flip she ask me what I wanted, which was FS. Left $. 4 on the table while she left for a second. BJ application was short but deep. Started with CG and finished with Mish. I noticed she was on the Rag afterwards. She claimed that it had started just now, which I don't know if I believe. Though I don't remember seeing anything when we switched positions. I should have demanded some of that tip back but I left it at that. It may be time to try someplace else when I'm in NOVA.
As a newbie I will ask this of you... Please do NOT state that an AMP in PWC does FS. Take that to the private messages section between members. PWC is well known for doing busts and really screwing over the lives of us mongers by posting our names and addresses in the local paper. Because you decided to blatantly state that you paid for FS at MT, I have no desire to go there anytime soon as it will be under radar once again. You meant well but be cautious with posting certain information. Also, please provide detail of your provider. When you said you paid $.4 for your treat, is that 140.00? Because to me, thats a lot for a girl at MT. A spinner at a condo would cost $.60 total, so paying $.40 for the extra service on top of the house fee for the massage you got screwed twice.
Seeing "std +" does not want me to go there, maybe it would be better to spell that out next time. :)
Went to celebrate Grand Opening.
Brand new clean environment.
Saw M*******
NOVA std +
Unfortunately, the "tip discussion" had to interrupt the proceedings.
May return to investigate the other therapists.
Sir Amp Alot is completely right. I would even go on to say if you get FS from anywhere keep it to yourself except for PM from more senior members.
If you like an AMP don't be the reason they have to close their doors!
Visiting in area, in your cold, cold windy weather, and looked up a few comments here and from CL.
Tried a place mentioned on Backlick, it was closed and remodeling, tried another, no answer. Left the area for a bit then came back to Little River. Another place closed- and another with no "OPEN" sign. So I didn't even try the door. O for 4
I started thinking I arrived the day after a series of raids! (but have found nothing in the papers) So, it was Sunday. In late morning and early afternoon- the girls must have still been at church.
Later I got lost on Backlick (love that name)- ended up at a place which has not gotten good reviews here. But in I went.
Older 40s (+) K gal, who I thought was MMS, but after I asked for just 1/2H she was the provider. No TS, she did a 'light' massage. Which consisted of just fingertips. What some girls do after a 'real' massage before flip. Kinda tingly and nice, but. She quickly had me flip and went straight to town. I was on the table and back out in the cold in maybe 20mins. It was a, what you call, standard (not std) NOVA finish.
So with her actions, manner, (direct) style. She is the MMS. She just took a cut from the house. 6.so how much do I tip?
In the parking lot on my way out I realize her car is the 2008 Mercedes, mine is the rented POS. She could change the name of the place to Princess'
Dynefreelance
01-07-10, 04:42
As a newbie I will ask this of you. Please do NOT state that an AMP in PWC does FS. Take that to the private messages section between members. PWC is well known for doing busts and really screwing over the lives of us mongers by posting our names and addresses in the local paper. Because you decided to blatantly state that you paid for FS at MT, I have no desire to go there anytime soon as it will be under radar once again. You meant well but be cautious with posting certain information. Also, please provide detail of your provider. When you said you paid $. 4 for your treat, is that 140. 00? Because to me, thats a lot for a girl at MT. A spinner at a condo would cost $. 60 total, so paying $. 40 for the extra service on top of the house fee for the massage you got screwed twice.After looking more closely at the past year in this board, I understand where your coming from about PWC. My fault, but don't live in this area so I did read about it carefully before posting. I can understand your bothered because of all the LE interest. You might want to create a post with general things like this. Otherwise more mistakes will be made.
As for the price comment, YMMV. You've been here long enough to know that. It happened before I even join the board and new standard ranges. Hell, even if had been a part of board before going there, I probably would have overtipped. But that's to each his own.
I'll give the name out to any senior who asks, though I probably should have put that in the earlier message. On a side note how do I change my earlier post, or is it too late?
If you are caught in a raid in PWC, no matter what you are doing in there at the time, you name and address will appear in the newspaper the next day and you will be charged with "frequenting a bawdy place".
If you can handle that kind of publicity and the money for a good lawyer then by all means have your fun in PWC. Otherwise just stay away from that county completely!
It just ain't worth it!!!
PWC = Prince William County Virginia
JJ
and why take the chance.
Can you say how PWC classifies the "Bawdy House", I knew of regular spas that were busted, where as they did not service one or two of the girls freelanced....
Anyway to know if an establishment might be listed, in PWC.
Thanks for the great warning.
If you are caught in a raid in PWC, no matter what you are doing in there at the time, you name and address will appear in the newspaper the next day and you will be charged with "frequenting a bawdy place".
If you can handle that kind of publicity and the money for a good lawyer then by all means have your fun in PWC. Otherwise just stay away from that county completely!
It just ain't worth it!!!
PWC = Prince William County Virginia
JJ
LatinaLover77
01-07-10, 17:52
and why take the chance.
Can you say how PWC classifies the "Bawdy House", I knew of regular spas that were busted, where as they did not service one or two of the girls freelanced....
Anyway to know if an establishment might be listed, in PWC.
Thanks for the great warning.
I would say that PWC targets places that require a buzzer to gain access. Normal massage parlors have a reception area and full access at the entrance. They are normally well known as salons etc. The place is listed with PWC as a licensed massage parlor. In order to obtain a license for their business, they must first apply through the county. The normal massage parlors also have licensed therapists and are proud to display the certs at the entrance.
Great news. Nana from the now closed Sun VIP on 8th St. is working at Green in Sterling.
Nice facility; new TS; great session
80/80 nice hard massage, hot towel treatment, back walk, no rush full hour.
Definitely repeat.
There was an independent Korean massage girl/escort working out of NoVa who went by the name G. She typically advertised on Eros. i saw her once and had a good time, but she seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what happened to her? PM is okay.
Thanks.
Massage Relieve for all your stress (9962 Main st fairfax VA)
Deep tissue swedish sports shiatsu stretching acupresser touch therapy body grooming waxing shave body mud mask and body scrub shower 9962 Main st fairfax VA call for appt (703)906-3702 10am-12am
Location: 9962 Main st fairfax VA
Being charged with something does not mean convicted of it. The cops who would do the riad would be doing so based on the assumption the place is a bawdy place. Your name and address in the paper would be listed with that charge. Guilt has nothing to do with it at this point, you life is ruined as soon as the paper comes out.
JJ
and why take the chance.
Can you say how PWC classifies the "Bawdy House", I knew of regular spas that were busted, where as they did not service one or two of the girls freelanced....
Anyway to know if an establishment might be listed, in PWC.
Thanks for the great warning.
AKFourtySeven
01-08-10, 10:07
I would hardly think that my life would be ruined.I wouldn't want to pay out for lawyers.But I have to if I want to win. I've noticed over the years that clients of amps rarely,if ever, are convicted.
If it is not important to you then have a blast and do not sweat it!
I know that if I am even accused I would lose (at a minimum) wife, house, car, and job.
So take the advice for whatever it may be worth but DO NOT play it down in any case.
And it IS your own decision and risk - not mine and I will NOT argue the point any more nor waste any other person's time in the forum.
If you insist on arguing, do so via PM only! Anything else I will ignore.
JJ
I would hardly think that my life would be ruined.I wouldn't want to pay out for lawyers.But I have to if I want to win. I've noticed over the years that clients of amps rarely,if ever, are convicted.
I think it would depend a great deal on what you do for a living. Teacher, life over, member of Congress not so much. Minister-over, professional athlete (with the exception of golf) ok. TV actor of child show-done for, Late night personality-go back for seconds.
If it is not important to you then have a blast and do not sweat it!
I know that if I am even accused I would lose (at a minimum) wife, house, car, and job.
So take the advice for whatever it may be worth but DO NOT play it down in any case.
And it IS your own decision and risk - not mine and I will NOT argue the point any more nor waste any other person's time in the forum.
If you insist on arguing, do so via PM only! Anything else I will ignore.
JJ
I knew places in other States that were "legit" nail and massage; but owners can only monitor so much. I have been to a few "real" places that have had unoffical extras that the owner did not know about or kept a blind eye to. When my friend comes to visit me she like to go for couple massages where we are and I would hate to take her some place and a few minutes later they are banging down the door.
These appear to be good signs to avoid should my friend picks out a place...
Thank you
I would say that PWC targets places that require a buzzer to gain access. Normal massage parlors have a reception area and full access at the entrance. They are normally well known as salons etc. The place is listed with PWC as a licensed massage parlor. In order to obtain a license for their business, they must first apply through the county. The normal massage parlors also have licensed therapists and are proud to display the certs at the entrance.
Went to Papaya today. Cici was my provider. Was offered a shower but it was solo, stand up. I asked Cici why they didn't do table showers anymore and she told me they got a ticket for having one. It appears it is unlawful for providers to wash naked mongers on a table. According to Cici, both the house and the provider were fined $300 each for the infraction. Have any of you heard of such a thing?
Went to Papaya today. Cici was my provider. Was offered a shower but it was solo, stand up. I asked Cici why they didn't do table showers anymore and she told me they got a ticket for having one. It appears it is unlawful for providers to wash naked mongers on a table. According to Cici, both the house and the provider were fined $300 each for the infraction. Have any of you heard of such a thing?I haven't heard of fine,but when I check a new place that opens, I always hear a t/s attracts the wrong kind of attention.
Jack Bones
01-09-10, 11:16
Dropped by this well-reported-off-the-beltway establishment one evening this past week. Greeted by Amy: nice looking, 40ish. Showing it in the face, but very nice frame.
Amy's very nice. Lot's of energy and communicates very well. As usual, she ask's if I've visited before. Answer no to this particular place. She was interested in how I had found out about the place, to which I replied I'd heard about it.
After going to the room and settling on an hour she deposits me in the sauna for about five minutes. Afterwords, a nice TS on a cold day. She's very playfull and took great pains to be sure I was clean everywhere.
Once back in the room, she gave a great massage. Making sure along the way that she was making me happy. Firm massage w/back walking. One ding, though. Apparently business had been slow earlier and one of the girls (CoCo) had gone home. She was very apologetic, but she did have to abandon me for about 5-10 minutes in the middle of the session.
Standard NoVa experience w/no up-sell. I appreciate that. She did introduce me to Susie; the other girl on staff that evening and suggested I try a four-hand massage next time. I've never tried that. If anyone has and want's to express an opinion, I'd love to hear it.
Overall good experience. I'll be back. I like this place.
F 6 pleasant
B 7. 5 nice
A 7. nothing unusual. Clean
M 8. She's good
S 6. 5. Would have been better but for the miss noted above
A 9. Great attitude. Nice lady, friendly, good conversation, eager to please
Again, thanks to all for the great info!
Guitarman1
01-09-10, 11:17
I think it would depend a great deal on what you do for a living. Teacher, life over, member of Congress not so much. Minister-over, professional athlete (with the exception of golf) ok. TV actor of child show-done for, Late night personality-go back for seconds.
Anyone holding a security clearance - life over.
Good luck applying for a job that requires a background check. Even if not convicted, they'll still see your arrest record and not hire you.
Best bet is to be careful. Plain and simple it is not worth it for most people to get caught up in any raid or sting.
The genitals must never be seen by either the one being washed or the one doing the washing.
As soon as Mr. Happy comes out and the provider sees him - the law is violated. As soon as the provider shows nipple or genitals - the law is violated.
Any place that allows the viewing of genitals or female nipples is also suspect of engaging in prostitution and is then suspect of being a bawdy place. Anyone seen inside such a place is suspect of frequenting a bawdy place and therefore subject to arrest and charges.
Take it or leave it - believe it or not - that is the way it is here in the Commonwealth. PWC has decided to crack down on this along with the way they deal with illegal immigrants. The other counties could do the same if they decided to do so.
Again - guilt or innocense has nothing to do with being arrested and charged.
Let's not waste time or space here arguing this issue!
Just know that is how it is and be careful!!!
JJ
I haven't heard of fine,but when I check a new place that opens, I always hear a t/s attracts the wrong kind of attention.
There is always the TSA :p
Anyone holding a security clearance - life over.
Good luck applying for a job that requires a background check. Even if not convicted, they'll still see your arrest record and not hire you.
Best bet is to be careful. Plain and simple it is not worth it for most people to get caught up in any raid or sting.
The genitals must never be seen by either the one being washed or the one doing the washing.
As soon as Mr. Happy comes out and the provider sees him - the law is violated. As soon as the provider shows nipple or genitals - the law is violated.
Any place that allows the viewing of genitals or female nipples is also suspect of engaging in prostitution and is then suspect of being a bawdy place. Anyone seen inside such a place is suspect of frequenting a bawdy place and therefore subject to arrest and charges.
Take it or leave it - believe it or not - that is the way it is here in the Commonwealth. PWC has decided to crack down on this along with the way they deal with illegal immigrants. The other counties could do the same if they decided to do so.
JJ
Can you provide some Code sections for this?
Can you provide some Code sections for this?http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-347
§ 18.2-347. Keeping, residing in or frequenting a bawdy place; "bawdy place" defined.
It shall be unlawful for any person to keep any bawdy place, or to reside in or at or visit, for immoral purposes, any such bawdy place. Each and every day such bawdy place shall be kept, resided in or visited, shall constitute a separate offense. In a prosecution under this section the general reputation of the place may be proved.
As used in this Code, "bawdy place" shall mean any place within or without any building or structure which is used or is to be used for lewdness, assignation or prostitution.
Everyone on here should read Virginia's "Morals and Decency":
https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC18020000008000000000000
Especially read 18.2-361 -- oral sex is a felony in Virginia, even with your wife...
Pilot Aviator
01-09-10, 18:10
Since it appears everyone is chatting about the law instead of being nice to the ladies.
However. I did see the best MT today. Not an AMP and from a non-Asian country. And nothing like an AMP experience. Just a good massage and a relaxing hour.
But next week. Back to Table Showers and back-walking.
PA
AKFourtySeven
01-09-10, 19:21
I've always heard that that the way it is.
Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.
I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.
Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.
PC out
CantWinLosin
01-09-10, 23:49
See VA code section 18.2 generally, and note section 18.2-390 for the definition of nudity used throughout the section. This is basically the same reason that strippers in this state must wear pasties.
Big Daddy Don
01-10-10, 10:04
Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.
I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.
Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.
PC out
Good job on holding your ground!!
If it is the Suzie (Susie) I think you're talking about then yes, you would be well advised to go with the 4 handed massage. I've done that with her before and it is a great experience. She by herself is fantastic. If she is well endowed up top then it is probably the same Suzie.
Dropped by this well-reported-off-the-beltway establishment one evening this past week. Greeted by Amy: nice looking, 40ish. Showing it in the face, but very nice frame.
Amy's very nice. Lot's of energy and communicates very well. As usual, she ask's if I've visited before. Answer no to this particular place. She was interested in how I had found out about the place, to which I replied I'd heard about it.
After going to the room and settling on an hour she deposits me in the sauna for about five minutes. Afterwords, a nice TS on a cold day. She's very playfull and took great pains to be sure I was clean everywhere.
Once back in the room, she gave a great massage. Making sure along the way that she was making me happy. Firm massage w/back walking. One ding, though. Apparently business had been slow earlier and one of the girls (CoCo) had gone home. She was very apologetic, but she did have to abandon me for about 5-10 minutes in the middle of the session.
Standard NoVa experience w/no up-sell. I appreciate that. She did introduce me to Susie; the other girl on staff that evening and suggested I try a four-hand massage next time. I've never tried that. If anyone has and want's to express an opinion, I'd love to hear it.
Overall good experience. I'll be back. I like this place.
F 6 pleasant
B 7. 5 nice
A 7. nothing unusual. Clean
M 8. She's good
S 6. 5. Would have been better but for the miss noted above
A 9. Great attitude. Nice lady, friendly, good conversation, eager to please
Again, thanks to all for the great info!
I hope all will stand up for value and stop letting prices get out od hand. These girls know they are a one shot service and squeeze for what they can get. Some will accept standard tip rather than losing others do not give in and lose all.
Keep up the good value!
Thanks
Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.
I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.
Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.
PC out
Went to Green in Sterling. Wendy is a good looking 30-something. Thin, about 5'2" with fake C's. Apathetic table shower. Non-relaxing, and sometimes painful massage and back-walk. But finished with a skillful DC-level finish. PM if you want details.
This is the reason I rarely visit AMPs any more. Most providers are either good at the massage or the finish (or all too often neither). And if I just care about one or the other I can generally get a better, less expensive, more skillful and pleasant experience from either an escort or a legitimate massage therapist who only focuses on their area of expertise.
This is the reason I rarely visit AMPs any more. Most providers are either good at the massage or the finish (or all too often neither). And if I just care about one or the other I can generally get a better, less expensive, more skillful and pleasant experience from either an escort or a legitimate massage therapist who only focuses on their area of expertise.
Well said, Choboman. Well said.
AD
Wahooboy94
01-10-10, 23:48
Had some time today and decided to slip out and see Judy or Sarah at CTM. Got there and Judy and Sarah were both seeing clients and asked if I could come back. Judy looked really pretty, but I told her I would come back another day.
Decided to run up to OTC off of Little River Pike. Closed. Used to go here quite a bit when Dee Dee was working here. Pleasant memories.
So, I get back in the car and decide to try Golden Spa which is in the vicinity. Never been and thought I would TOFTT.
Nice and cold outside. Nice and warm inside. I'm greeted by Moon who takes me by the hand and escorts me to my room. Moon is very pretty, has to be in her late 40s, long hair, willowy body, soft not hard, medium height, very pretty skin.
I pay for the hour, get undressed and go to the TS. Nice and hot, soapy, relaxing. Not too bad as showers go.
Towels me off, takes me back to the room, finishes drying me off at which point I assume the position on the table.
Moon has wonderful hands. Very warm. The massage is very good, more therapeutic than sensual. Works the back, neck, arms, buttocks and legs. Very relaxing. Sensual touching leads to NOVA standard. Very nice, very relaxing, very enjoyable.
Moon takes her job seriously. It was very important to her to dry me off as well as help me get dressed. I thought she did a very nice job and would definitely go back.
If you are looking for a nice massage, TS with standard NOVA finish, give Golden Spa a try. I think it is good value.
Made a visit due to some good reports. Saw Coco (AVOID), who is a hot mama but that where the upsell starts. TS and massagi were nice enuff. Then the negotiations began and the turn off begun.
I offered standard fare since she wanted twice as much for the same. I refused. After more promises of how great she is and how well worth it she is, I got frustrated and just left. She asked for a tip and I said you woulda got one if you werent so greedy.
Told Mama on the way out the same. I would not go back.
PC outWhen you guys say Upsell (I couldn't find this under the Abbreviation link), does that mean providers asking for more tip or offering higher level of service for more tip?
Drunker Irish
01-11-10, 14:00
I have an opportunity to try out a chinese condo girl, and have never done this. Was wondering what the rate for this is? Is it DC rate with $60 at the door or N.Virginia rates of $80 at the door...or is it less because it sa condo?
I can guess what the rest of the rate will be (maybe). Not looking for locations or names, just what I should expect to pay.
Thanks
Good job on holding your ground!!
As she was smug enough to ask for a tip for the 4-5 rated massage. I shoulda gave her a Jackson and then I woulda felt .85 worse off rather than .8. She wont be there long I do think. Coco needs to move to Marina del Rey with the $$.5 ladies in CA since her services are so good.
PC out
When you guys say Upsell (I couldn't find this under the Abbreviation link), does that mean providers asking for more tip or offering higher level of service for more tip?provider asking for more tip. I do not want to sound like I'm ridiculing the providers but there are too many out there that are just like used car salesmen, trying to sell you a car for $10k, when in fact the true value of the car is only $2k LOL
Everyone on here should read Virginia's "Morals and Decency":
https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC18020000008000000000000
Especially read 18.2-361 -- oral sex is a felony in Virginia, even with your wife...
Well, trechnically, yes, although I am certain that in light of the Supreme Court's ruling in Lawrence v. Texas, this is no longer enforceable.
However, keeping a bawdy place, or frequenting a bawdy place, is most definitely still enforceable as a criminal offense. But the mere presence of nudity does not complete the elements of "keepuing a bawdy place," so I don't agree with the claim that the moment nipples or cock are exposed, the law has been violated.
However, I do agree that such exposure would be probable cause for arrest. Probable cause is a standard much lower than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" required for conviction. To convict, the Commonwealt must prove to a jury (or a judge in a bench trial) that each and every element of the crime happened, beyond a reasonable doubt. But to arrest, they only need to show a set of facts which would cause a reasonable man of prudent caution to believe that it's probable that a crime is being committed.
AKFourtySeven
01-11-10, 20:56
I went to ATMB last week.
I got an excellent massage.
As usual.
Anyone else been there recently?
In the area on Saturday and decided to try a new place for the 1st time. Not many previous reports so thought I would TOFTT.
Little traffic on Saturday so waiting outside while the door was answered wasn't too offensive. Second ring produces a young lady which I immediately assumed was not the mamason.
She directed me to the back, room #3, and asked if I wanted a shower. I said sure and handed over the $80 house fee. She returned in 5 min. And directed me to a self serv stand up shower.
Showered myself and returned to room #3 with no Kim in sight. Dried off, laid down and then waited 10 minutes for her return.
Tried to initiate conversation. None although her Engrish was ok.
Massage. Fair to poor.
Looks. 7
Body. 7. Not that it mattered.
Roaming. None. She pulled away on my one attempt.
On the flip she asked if I wanted anything else massaged. So I had to direct her to the spot she had covered with a towel.
After a very mechanical and uninspiring finale she did clean things up and said I was done.
Done I was! This was one of the least interesting, least satisfying and almost insulting visits I have ever had. Her attitude and service sucked and to top it off, it was 45 minutes, 10 of which, I was laying there waiting for her. Will not return and unless they have other more engaging ladies I don't know how they stay in business.
Left. 2 which she looked at and didn't say a word. Thankfully.
Really a sorry visit!
It's hard to be "Nice to the Ladies" when you experience this kind of indifference to a customer.
Wayward One
01-11-10, 22:34
This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from October 2009 to December 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 12/24/09 - Wayward One (Apr to Sep 2009)
Unknown location
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Cheri - 12/29/09 - Jojo565 (+)
Coco - 12/29/09 - Serpico (+)
??? - 12/24/09 - Smart Phone (+)
Tina - 12/10/09 - Funkey (-)
??? - 12/9/09 - Free Mickey (?)
??? - 11/13/09 - Mongeryid (+)
??? - 11/11/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Candy - 10/31/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (?)
??? - 10/6/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
Jenny - 10/5/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
112 Maple
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MImi - 10/12/09 - Max Beelyun (+)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (+)
Judy - 10/7/09 - Cranberries (+)
Judy - 10/3/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Backlick
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Suzie - 11/28/09 - FWDisaster (+)
Kim - 11/25/09 - The Nub (?)
Bamboo
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new in PWC - 10/14/09 - Vahotguy
Bay Therapy
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Coco - 12/30/09 - MoonView (+)
Lily - 12/9/09 - Hofi35 (+)
Coco - 11/19/09 - Mason37 (-)
Anna - 11/18/09 - Skyn Deep69 (-)
Coco - 11/9/09 - Mason 37 (+)
Coco - 10/6/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Blue Ocean
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??? - 11/21/09 - Classy Mike (+)
??? - 10/30/09 - Ampamp72 (?)
addy - 10/26/09 - Badboycik
Bodywork
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Mickey - 11/21/09 - Fun Cowboy (?)
Cosmos
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Kay - 11/22/09 - Free Mickey (+)
CTM
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Judy - 12/22/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
Sarah - 11/28/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Sarah - 11/20/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Sarah - 11/19/09 - Mongeroose (+)
Mona - 11/07/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Mona - 10/6/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Day Spa
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Tina - 10/27/09 - Yakblat (+)
Eden Day Spa
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??? - 12/10/09 - Gus1000 (-)
??? - 11/11/09 - Andrewsted (?)
Enliven (tyco)
==============
Coco - 12/30/09 - Norm Leone (+)
May - 12/18/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Amy - 12/17/09 - Sleazebum (+)
??? - 12/12/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 11/19/09 - Norm leone (-)
Candy - 11/4/09 - Max Beelyun (?)
Evergreen
==========
Bonnie - 11/21/09 - Freedomfighter (+)
Far East
========
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/12/09 - Volvos40 (-)
G Accupressure (legit)
======================
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (+) legit
Golden
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??? - 12/29/09 - Crazy Spartan (+)
??? - 12/28/09 - Yakblat (?)
Coco - 11/17/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Garden (Shiatsu)
================
Jae - 12/2/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Good Day Spa
============
??? - 12/6/09 - Computer Luvvv (+)
??? - 12/4/09 - Fatpig (-)
??? - 11/9/09 - Bob Bobman (+)
Green
=====
Holly - 12/26/09 - Andrewsted (+)
Micheele - 10/31/09 - Volvos40 (?)
Kay - 10/26/09 - Hofi35 (+)
??? - 10/23/09 - Justforme (?)
Suzi - 10/23/09 - Fatpig (-)
Holiday (K Accupressure)
==============
Yo-yo - 10/13/09 - Banker Boy (+)
Honto
=====
Tina - 12/25/09 - Fatpig (-)
IVY
===
Happy - 12/8/09 - Notronmexico (?)
Kim's Therapy
=============
Ruby - 12/30/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Ruby - 12/22/09 - Randytomcatt (+)
Connie - 12/15/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Loo - 12/1/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
p***a - 11/27/09 - Amp Bum (-)
Angie/mms - 11/7/09 - Dadwantsit (+)
Cindy - 10/14/09 - Dadwantsit (?)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
King Therapy
============
Yunji - 12/20/09 - Nona Khan (+)
Candy - 12/11/09 - Hondo17 (+)
Nicole - 12/9/09 - Jack Bones (?)
??? - 11/8/09 - Somlik (-)
Bebe - 11/8/09 - Computer Luvvv (?)
??? - 11/01/09 - Sleeping Bag (-)
Bebe - 10/31/09 - Tapas (+)
Sunny - 10/24/09 - Choboman (+)
Michelle - 10/24/09 - TheKing (+)
Michelle - 10/9/09 - noideaaa2 (?)
Little River
============
Coco - 11/16/09 - Yakblat (-)
Coco - 10/28/09 - Yakblat (+)
Massage Therapy
================
Suni - 10/26/09 - Rudy Vroom (?)
Suni - 10/25/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/6/09 - Ycwinva (?)
Magical Touch (MT)
==================
Suzie-Q - 11/12/09 - Mspearsva (?)
??? - 10/21/09 - Mspearsva (-)
Magic relax oriental massage
=====================
Chloe - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Sherry - 12/13/09 - Oldtar (+)(legit)
addy - 11/22/09 - Kamen (legit)
NSP
===
Kelly - 12/28/09 - Alpha D (+)
Lana - 12/18/09 - Funkey (?)
Monica - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Krissy - 12/14/09 - S2568 (+)
??? - 12/13/09 - Alpha D (+)
??? - 12/6/09 - Member #2204 (+)
Gini - 12/6/09 - Alpha D (+)
Jenny - 12/6/09 - Yakblat (+)
Sara - 11/25/09 - VAmongerman (+)
C**** - 11/13/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (+)
Cindy - 11/10/09 - Loader401 (?)
Christina - 11/9/09 - Alpha D (+)
Christina - 1/9/09 - Member#2204 (+)
Cher - 11/6/09 - Vahotguy (+)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
Sony - 10/1/09 - Loader401 (+)
Sony - 10/01/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Papaya (Tea Tree Therapy)
====================
Nana - 11/01/09 - Nice 499 (?)
switched names- 10/29/09 - Vamasage Fan (?)
Candi - 10/7/09 - Entourage (?)
Pine Tree (Lotus)
=============
Lucky - 11/26/09 - WebDog (+)
Prince massage therapy (Fairco)
========================
name change - 12/8/09 - Pilot Aviator
Rainbow
=======
Suzi - 10/22/09 - Olgnome (?)
Soft Touch Therapy
==================
Hanna - 12/2/09 - Harleyguyva (+)
Suki - 10/30/09 - Badboycik (?)
Swan
====
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (+)
??? - 11/13/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Tao
===
??? - 11/7/09 - Choboman (-)
VA M&B
======
Apple - 12/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Jenny - 11/16/09 - The Nub (-)
??? - 10/17/09 - Phaik Naim (+)
Genie - 10/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Venus (body wellness)
=====
Kim - 12/29/09 - Jack Bones (+)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fiction
This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from October 2009 to December 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 12/24/09 - Wayward One (Apr to Sep 2009)
Unknown location
================
Cheri - 12/29/09 - Jojo565 (+)
Coco - 12/29/09 - Serpico (+)
??? - 12/24/09 - Smart Phone (+)
Tina - 12/10/09 - Funkey (-)
??? - 12/9/09 - Free Mickey (?)
??? - 11/13/09 - Mongeryid (+)
??? - 11/11/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Candy - 10/31/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (?)
??? - 10/6/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
Jenny - 10/5/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
112 Maple
=========
MImi - 10/12/09 - Max Beelyun (+)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (+)
Judy - 10/7/09 - Cranberries (+)
Judy - 10/3/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Backlick
========
Suzie - 11/28/09 - FWDisaster (+)
Kim - 11/25/09 - The Nub (?)
Bamboo
======
new in PWC - 10/14/09 - Vahotguy
Bay Therapy
===========
Coco - 12/30/09 - MoonView (+)
Lily - 12/9/09 - Hofi35 (+)
Coco - 11/19/09 - Mason37 (-)
Anna - 11/18/09 - Skyn Deep69 (-)
Coco - 11/9/09 - Mason 37 (+)
Coco - 10/6/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Blue Ocean
==========
??? - 11/21/09 - Classy Mike (+)
??? - 10/30/09 - Ampamp72 (?)
addy - 10/26/09 - Badboycik
Bodywork
========
Mickey - 11/21/09 - Fun Cowboy (?)
Cosmos
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Kay - 11/22/09 - Free Mickey (+)
CTM
===
Judy - 12/22/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
Sarah - 11/28/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Sarah - 11/20/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Sarah - 11/19/09 - Mongeroose (+)
Mona - 11/07/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Mona - 10/6/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Day Spa
=======
Tina - 10/27/09 - Yakblat (+)
Eden Day Spa
============
??? - 12/10/09 - Gus1000 (-)
??? - 11/11/09 - Andrewsted (?)
Enliven (tyco)
==============
Coco - 12/30/09 - Norm Leone (+)
May - 12/18/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Amy - 12/17/09 - Sleazebum (+)
??? - 12/12/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 11/19/09 - Norm leone (-)
Candy - 11/4/09 - Max Beelyun (?)
Evergreen
==========
Bonnie - 11/21/09 - Freedomfighter (+)
Far East
========
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/12/09 - Volvos40 (-)
G Accupressure (legit)
======================
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (+) legit
Golden
======
??? - 12/29/09 - Crazy Spartan (+)
??? - 12/28/09 - Yakblat (?)
Coco - 11/17/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Garden (Shiatsu)
================
Jae - 12/2/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Good Day Spa
============
??? - 12/6/09 - Computer Luvvv (+)
??? - 12/4/09 - Fatpig (-)
??? - 11/9/09 - Bob Bobman (+)
Green
=====
Holly - 12/26/09 - Andrewsted (+)
Micheele - 10/31/09 - Volvos40 (?)
Kay - 10/26/09 - Hofi35 (+)
??? - 10/23/09 - Justforme (?)
Suzi - 10/23/09 - Fatpig (-)
Holiday (K Accupressure)
==============
Yo-yo - 10/13/09 - Banker Boy (+)
Honto
=====
Tina - 12/25/09 - Fatpig (-)
IVY
===
Happy - 12/8/09 - Notronmexico (?)
Kim's Therapy
=============
Ruby - 12/30/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Ruby - 12/22/09 - Randytomcatt (+)
Connie - 12/15/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Loo - 12/1/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
p***a - 11/27/09 - Amp Bum (-)
Angie/mms - 11/7/09 - Dadwantsit (+)
Cindy - 10/14/09 - Dadwantsit (?)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
King Therapy
============
Yunji - 12/20/09 - Nona Khan (+)
Candy - 12/11/09 - Hondo17 (+)
Nicole - 12/9/09 - Jack Bones (?)
??? - 11/8/09 - Somlik (-)
Bebe - 11/8/09 - Computer Luvvv (?)
??? - 11/01/09 - Sleeping Bag (-)
Bebe - 10/31/09 - Tapas (+)
Sunny - 10/24/09 - Choboman (+)
Michelle - 10/24/09 - TheKing (+)
Michelle - 10/9/09 - noideaaa2 (?)
Little River
============
Coco - 11/16/09 - Yakblat (-)
Coco - 10/28/09 - Yakblat (+)
Massage Therapy
================
Suni - 10/26/09 - Rudy Vroom (?)
Suni - 10/25/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/6/09 - Ycwinva (?)
Magical Touch (MT)
==================
Suzie-Q - 11/12/09 - Mspearsva (?)
??? - 10/21/09 - Mspearsva (-)
Magic relax oriental massage
=====================
Chloe - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Sherry - 12/13/09 - Oldtar (+)(legit)
addy - 11/22/09 - Kamen (legit)
NSP
===
Kelly - 12/28/09 - Alpha D (+)
Lana - 12/18/09 - Funkey (?)
Monica - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Krissy - 12/14/09 - S2568 (+)
??? - 12/13/09 - Alpha D (+)
??? - 12/6/09 - Member #2204 (+)
Gini - 12/6/09 - Alpha D (+)
Jenny - 12/6/09 - Yakblat (+)
Sara - 11/25/09 - VAmongerman (+)
C**** - 11/13/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (+)
Cindy - 11/10/09 - Loader401 (?)
Christina - 11/9/09 - Alpha D (+)
Christina - 1/9/09 - Member#2204 (+)
Cher - 11/6/09 - Vahotguy (+)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
Sony - 10/1/09 - Loader401 (+)
Sony - 10/01/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Papaya (Tea Tree Therapy)
====================
Nana - 11/01/09 - Nice 499 (?)
switched names- 10/29/09 - Vamasage Fan (?)
Candi - 10/7/09 - Entourage (?)
Pine Tree (Lotus)
=============
Lucky - 11/26/09 - WebDog (+)
Prince massage therapy (Fairco)
========================
name change - 12/8/09 - Pilot Aviator
Rainbow
=======
Suzi - 10/22/09 - Olgnome (?)
Soft Touch Therapy
==================
Hanna - 12/2/09 - Harleyguyva (+)
Suki - 10/30/09 - Badboycik (?)
Swan
====
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (+)
??? - 11/13/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Tao
===
??? - 11/7/09 - Choboman (-)
VA M&B
======
Apple - 12/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Jenny - 11/16/09 - The Nub (-)
??? - 10/17/09 - Phaik Naim (+)
Genie - 10/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Venus (body wellness)
=====
Kim - 12/29/09 - Jack Bones (+)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fictionNow that is valuable info. More postings need to be like this. Great research!
Thanks!
Free Mickey
01-12-10, 17:34
Perhaps a stupid question but can someone tell me what the +, - , and ? mean in the amp index post?
My first assumption is "positive experience" and "negative experience".
Is that correct?
Wayward One,
Thanks again for the countless hours and time you invest for us!
This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from October 2009 to December 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 12/24/09 - Wayward One (Apr to Sep 2009)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fiction
In regards to you newbies RTFF he's only been doing this for almost 5 years.
" http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=348303#post348303 "
It would be beneficial to yourself and other newbies for you to get familiar with this forum hence stopping the stupid questions and comments!
More postings need to be like this.
Nic,
Did you notice that A John cut your post to quote only what he needed to? Please use this method and refrain from reposting every single word of a quoted post. It will save time for scrolling and it won't push relevant posts to the next page so quickly.
Thanks.
AD
MrSunnyHills
01-12-10, 22:18
Twice in my past - both a long time back, Southern California. First time was heaven. They were really slow - gal asked if her friend could come help. "no extra charge - we like you". Next thing you know I have a --ssy in my face and a mouth on my ---- and well, let's just say I was not sure what to tip (that was in the day of $20 for an hour, $40 tip for fs).
Second time, too much upsell. Not my cup of tea now. Given my finances, would rather have 2 events spread out a bit to a 4 hand.
Dropped by this well-reported-off-the-beltway establishment one evening this past week. etc. etc. etc.
Standard NoVa experience w/no up-sell. I appreciate that. She did introduce me to Susie; the other girl on staff that evening and suggested I try a four-hand massage next time. I've never tried that. If anyone has and want's to express an opinion, I'd love to hear it.
etc etc etc!
I am a newbie here. I was wondering about the place on Westfields and Walney in Centreville. Live down the street and wondering if it is worth it. I know I am a newbie, but would appreciate any information. You can PM if you don't want to post to the board.
About two years ago with an agency.... Rose & Pam 1-house fee + 2-tips. They were not into each other as I would have liked. Good time however will not partake again unless the two are lovers.
Twice in my past - both a long time back,
(that was in the day of $20 for an hour, $40 tip for fs).
Second time, too much upsell. Not my cup of tea now. Given my finances, would rather have 2 events spread out a bit to a 4 hand.
Decided to stop in at Herndon Therapy.
It's been a long time since I was last there and actually wasn't even really sure they were still open.
It was an odd mix of good and bad.
All the right elements of a classic AMP experience but some parts were poorly executed.
Yumi, 40+ Korean, very short, small natural, tight body with long dark curled hair.
Strong cigarette smell everywhere and unoccupied staff were puffing away while watching TV.
Great TS.
Then I was left way too long in the Sauna while loud discussions occurred in Korean outside.
She put a lot of effort into the massage and gave the best hand and foot massage I've ever received. But, it was very spotty otherwise. I don't think she touched anywhere on the upper half of my back.
When she massaged my head, she dug her nails hard into my scalp. It hurt and she actually drew blood at the hairline. I had to sterilize and bandage when I got home.
That was followed immediately by a nice gentle tongue bath, teasing, and flip.
Unencumbered external roaming and standard NoVA.
Then a luke-warm towel for clean-up.
Good English. Great conversation.
She dressed me 100% not just an assist.
In summary, I liked her as a person a lot but won't be back for that service or environment.
If you are looking for a nice massage, TS with standard NOVA finish, give Golden Spa a try. I think it is good value.[/QUOTE]You had a better time than I did. My girl, don't remember the name, did ok TS, mediocre massage and bugged me for more tip.
Perhaps a stupid question but can someone tell me what the +, - , and ? mean in the amp index post?
My first assumption is "positive experience" and "negative experience".
Is that correct?The note explaining it says:
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Decided to stop in at Herndon Therapy.
Yumi, 40+ Korean, very short, small natural, tight body with long dark curled hair.
Strong cigarette smell everywhere and unoccupied staff were puffing away while watching TV.
Great TS.
Then I was left way too long in the Sauna while loud discussions occurred in Korean outside.
She put a lot of effort into the massage and gave the best hand and foot massage I've ever received. But, it was very spotty otherwise. I don't think she touched anywhere on the upper half of my back.
This place is strange for me. I do hate the smoke and coming home one night SO made a comment about it. OOPS. Massage is always decent as well as the TS. The ladies are a bit more mature though.
Try Honto across the street. NO Smoking but NO TS either.
That stench of cigarettes will keep me FAR away! I was a smoker for far too lng and now I am paying for it so I cannot go anywhere near that stink!
Too bad.
JJ
Decided to stop in at Herndon Therapy.
It's been a long time since I was last there and actually wasn't even really sure they were still open.
It was an odd mix of good and bad.
All the right elements of a classic AMP experience but some parts were poorly executed.
Yumi, 40+ Korean, very short, small natural, tight body with long dark curled hair.
Strong cigarette smell everywhere and unoccupied staff were puffing away while watching TV.
Great TS.
Then I was left way too long in the Sauna while loud discussions occurred in Korean outside.
She put a lot of effort into the massage and gave the best hand and foot massage I've ever received. But, it was very spotty otherwise. I don't think she touched anywhere on the upper half of my back.
When she massaged my head, she dug her nails hard into my scalp. It hurt and she actually drew blood at the hairline. I had to sterilize and bandage when I got home.
That was followed immediately by a nice gentle tongue bath, teasing, and flip.
Unencumbered external roaming and standard NoVA.
Then a luke-warm towel for clean-up.
Good English. Great conversation.
She dressed me 100% not just an assist.
In summary, I liked her as a person a lot but won't be back for that service or environment.
MrSunnyHills
01-13-10, 19:42
I am a newbie here. I was wondering about the place on Westfields and Walney in Centreville. Live down the street and wondering if it is worth it. I know I am a newbie, but would appreciate any information. You can PM if you don't want to post to the board.Since I don't normally jump on nubes, I'll carry the banner this time. How about you go down the street, spend a bit of money, and report back here and you may then end up beginning on the right foot with the NOVA crowd...
Plaqueman75
01-13-10, 22:30
I got this report from Kopi (sounded like coffee; reg. members would know her) @ Pine Tree.
There is supposedly a new place just around the corner of this tree; she didn't mention the name but she said the original owner cannot put up the money and so their owner took over - lest it be bought by a competitor.
She tells me this as a notice that we can go to either site and could ask to call someone from the other site (it's walking distance, really).
See what intel you get when you are nice to the ladies? :D
BTW, she's my favorite pine off the tree.
FYI!
OneHitWonders
01-14-10, 07:35
Decided to stop in at Herndon Therapy.
It's been a long time since I was last there and actually wasn't even really sure they were still open.
It was an odd mix of good and bad.
All the right elements of a classic AMP experience but some parts were poorly executed.
Yumi, 40+ Korean, very short, small natural, tight body with long dark curled hair.
Strong cigarette smell everywhere and unoccupied staff were puffing away while watching TV.
Great TS.
Then I was left way too long in the Sauna while loud discussions occurred in Korean outside.
She put a lot of effort into the massage and gave the best hand and foot massage I've ever received. But, it was very spotty otherwise. I don't think she touched anywhere on the upper half of my back.
When she massaged my head, she dug her nails hard into my scalp. It hurt and she actually drew blood at the hairline. I had to sterilize and bandage when I got home.
That was followed immediately by a nice gentle tongue bath, teasing, and flip.
Unencumbered external roaming and standard NoVA.
Then a luke-warm towel for clean-up.
Good English. Great conversation.
She dressed me 100% not just an assist.
In summary, I liked her as a person a lot but won't be back for that service or environment.
In my experiences, most of the girls smoke cigarettes. I agree that the strong cigarette smell can be a big negative, but I always accepted it. Not so sure if that is a good idea on my part!
I was surprised from your review report that she massaged your scalp and drew blood because of her nails. I've been lucky not to have experienced that! I have always enjoyed the part where they massage your scalp. While sometimes deep, it has never has been painful!
I thought I would give Prince Therapy (formerly Fairco) in Springfield a try yesterday evening but the place was dark and appeared closed, even tho they are still running ads on CL. Anybody have any info?
Oldtar
In my experiences, most of the girls smoke cigarettes.
I was surprised from your review report that she massaged your scalp and drew blood because of her nails.
I accept that they smoke and can tolerate it on their skin and clothes a little. But, this is the first place I've been to where they are doing it openly inside the customer areas.
Scratch attached :)
Dadwantsit
01-15-10, 09:07
Front page of the News & Messenger today, 1/15/10, "Three face prostitution charges" from Jade Tree Spa on Opitz. Too bad, I enjoyed my experiences there. Another one bites the dust.
LatinaLover77
01-15-10, 09:16
This is why I told a newbie to not give out details about FS in PWC. This is exactly what PWCPD does. They list your name, age and house address for all to see in the local paper! I'm sure we wont see these two mongers posting on here for awhile..
http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/three_face_prostitution_charges/50448/
Max Beelyun
01-15-10, 09:59
This is a little scary: "Police also seized cell phones, computers and documents..."
At first I thought this meant only for the AMP, but then I thought, why would they stop there? Does anyone know about that? Can they take your car? Search your car?
This is why I told a newbie to not give out details about FS in PWC. This is exactly what PWCPD does. They list your name, age and house address for all to see in the local paper! I'm sure we wont see these two mongers posting on here for awhile..
http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/three_face_prostitution_charges/50448/
This is a little scary: "Police also seized cell phones, computers and documents..."
At first I thought this meant only for the AMP, but then I thought, why would they stop there? Does anyone know about that? Can they take your car? Search your car?
Unfortunately the way the legal system works is if they charge you then you have to get an expensive lawyer (all lawyers are NOT created equal) and fight the charges in court.
Most of the cases I have read about are winnable in court but the damage is already done.
I don't see how they can charge anyone with frequenting a bawdy house without either catching the guy in an illegal act or having him make incriminating statements admitting he knew it was a bawdy house. The police could raid an IHOP and claim its a bawdy house but if you just went there for the pancakes it would not stick.
Cranberries
01-15-10, 12:37
This is why I told a newbie to not give out details about FS in PWC. This is exactly what PWCPD does. They list your name, age and house address for all to see in the local paper! I'm sure we wont see these two mongers posting on here for awhile..
http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/three_face_prostitution_charges/50448/Did anyone notice that two of the three arrested are literally neighbors? What are the chances of that!
AKFourtySeven
01-15-10, 15:31
Sounds interesting.lol
Brahmabull
01-15-10, 17:23
Did anyone notice that two of the three arrested are literally neighbors? What are the chances of that!
Edited because I did not realize you meant the girl and the guy were neighbors.
Went to IVY. Very quiet there. Not a korean but maybe Philipino name Kim. Skinny, older, but nice to talk to. Shower was good, sauna for 5 minutes was nice too. Excellent massage for 55 minutes. I was there a total of about 75. NO rush and very relaxed. Standard NOVA.
Would I go back. sure would.
I used to make regular visits to Sakura, Kinja, and HWC in PWC. Those were the days. I'm too paranoid to visit any PWC AMP now with the periodic raids. What's amazing is that these joints keep reopening regardless of the busts. Running an AMP must be a recession-proof business.
This is why I told a newbie to not give out details about FS in PWC. This is exactly what PWCPD does. They list your name, age and house address for all to see in the local paper! I'm sure we wont see these two mongers posting on here for awhile..
http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/three_face_prostitution_charges/50448/
This is why I told a newbie to not give out details about FS in PWC. This is exactly what PWCPD does. They list your name, age and house address for all to see in the local paper! I'm sure we wont see these two mongers posting on here for awhile..
http://www2.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/woodbridge/article/three_face_prostitution_charges/50448/As someone who works in the legal profession, my best advice, if you are unfortunate enough to get rounded up like these two mongers: SHUT UP. Cooperate but Don't offer anything to the police because they are NOT your friends. They know what they are doing and you don't exactly have a cool head freshly being busted. Hopefully they just write up a summon and you can fight another day. I have seen too many cases where people who are innocent or even lawyers got too talkative and got themselves in trouble to ever trust someone who is arresting me.
Aman Tuleev
01-16-10, 10:26
I got this report from Kopi (sounded like coffee; reg. members would know her) @ Pine Tree.
That is very interesting thing.
I was here yesturday, because of I would like to meet Kopi, she is my ATF. She disappeared from that place about 2 months ago. Mama told me that she is on the other side, and probably will not return. So, when You wrote that message, I run to thet tree to meet my Kopi. She is not here, and Mama told me that she will not return anymore. And girl, I've got here, told me the same thing.
She is not on that place around the corner too.
Plaqueman75, are You sure that it was Kopi?
Dear mongers, if somebody knows where is Kopi now, please PM to me.
Be Safe,
Aman
Pilot Aviator
01-16-10, 12:28
FWIW -- I've learned that the names used in the shops are somewhat fluid -- and sometimes when the girl changes, the name stays at the place, and new "kim" or "coco" or "kopi" may be filling the shoes (or taking care of the customers) of the predecessor.
At one place I have visited, the manager/MMS has changed twice, but the name to address the MMS has stayed the same.
Good luck in your search
PA
That is very interesting thing.
I was here yesturday, because of I would like to meet Kopi, she is my ATF. She disappeared from that place about 2 months ago. Mama told me that she is on the other side, and probably will not return. So, when You wrote that message, I run to thet tree to meet my Kopi. She is not here, and Mama told me that she will not return anymore. And girl, I've got here, told me the same thing.
She is not on that place around the corner too.
Plaqueman75, are You sure that it was Kopi?
Dear mongers, if somebody knows where is Kopi now, please PM to me.
Be Safe,
Aman
Did anyone notice that two of the three arrested are literally neighbors? What are the chances of that!
Just think of the convenience and all the money monger would have saved if he had known.
Roamin Roman
01-16-10, 18:38
Just think of the convenience and all the money monger would have saved if he had known.Both the girl and the older fellow lived in the Rotonda condos located at Greensboro Drive and Westpark Drive near Tysons Corner, a decent upscale area. Both are entrance-level apartments, according to real estate websites. Unfortunately, the guy appears to be married, as his wife is also listed as one of the owners of that apartment. (How humiliating this must be for her.) I can only speculate that, since the condos are across the hall from each other, they probably initially met that way. But, due to the risk of being found out by the wife or neighbors, the guy and gal may have thought it safer to meet at the AMP instead.
AKFourtySeven
01-16-10, 19:41
Maybe he was giving her a ride to work for consideration?
Did anyone notice that two of the three arrested are literally neighbors?
What are the chances of that!
Dadwantsit
01-18-10, 00:15
Left town for the week yesterday so stopped off at Kim's first. Angie met me as usual and introduced me to Ruby. Mid to late 30's with nice natural body. Very friendly and gave me a very hard massage as per my request after a very thorough table shower. Paid for one hour but was there for 1. 5 hours when all done. Very nice standard NOVA finish. Overall very nice experience as always at Kim's. Would definitely return.
Pilot Aviator
01-18-10, 17:07
Although I will post some additional info, the title has it right (even though the girl was different).
Paid a holiday Monday visit to Angie and the ladies. Connie was my provider today.
Arrival: 10/10. A great big smile and a hug. My visit was a "surprise" since I did not call ahead (but I knew I would be welcomed). Angie was absent when I arrived (but she arrived later in the afternoon).
Taken by the hand, walked back to studio 5. Yes an hour. Paid the house and got undressed. Connie returned with the change, and off we went to the TS.
TS 9/10
Super pre-massage included with the TS (which I really enjoy). Connie uses more soap than some, so a great slippery experience with smiles and laughs and everything cleaned, rinsed and fluffed dry. A hot towel over the shoulders and we walk back to the studio.
Massage + back walking 9/10
Winter really dries my skin, so I asked for "medium with lotion". And it was about perfect. Would rate a 10 out of 10 if it had lasted another 45 minutes (but tempus fugit.)
Sometimes I read how people get "antsy" if the massage is too good or lasts too long. I've learned to patronize really good places, and to relax.
Flip
More massage. And a new technique. She got another very hot towel wrapped under my neck and then, like it was in a sling, elevated it a little and applied traction. The pops as my neck vertebrae relaxed was audible. It felt really good. All my stress was gone by the time the hour was up.
Fronts of legs, chest, shoulders, arms. With hip twisting and stretching. All excellent.
More hot towels (to remove any excess lotion), more massage (concentrated on neck), and more smiles.
I do hope to get back next week.
YMMV
Always be nice to the ladies. And if your economy is improving, don't be stingy with your tip unless the experience is lousy. (and GOOD onthose reporting not tipping when the service was bad).
Newbies. Read the boards and you'll learn the standards. And, like in the better resturants you patonize, if it is someone you expect to see more than once, be extra generous sometimes. They remember.
PA
Just as a point of speculation, do you think it mind be possible the wife follow him or had him followed and then turned him in? Careful around significant others, they can be more invasive than LEO!
Both the girl and the older fellow lived in the Rotonda condos located at Greensboro Drive and Westpark Drive near Tysons Corner, a decent upscale area. Both are entrance-level apartments, according to real estate websites. Unfortunately, the guy appears to be married, as his wife is also listed as one of the owners of that apartment. (How humiliating this must be for her.) I can only speculate that, since the condos are across the hall from each other, they probably initially met that way. But, due to the risk of being found out by the wife or neighbors, the guy and gal may have thought it safer to meet at the AMP instead.
but I specially liked the second to last paragraph. Tip well (not overly) for good service ut do not tip for scammers and bad service Consider it like going to a restaurant. I the wait service is horrible, management is horrible, the food mediocore and the experience makes you not want to return, do you still tip 15 - 20% or more???
Thanks for the review and the final recommendations.
Although I will post some additional info, the title has it right (even though the girl was different).
Paid a holiday Monday visit to Angie and the ladies. Connie was my provider today.
Arrival: 10/10. A great big smile and a hug. My visit was a "surprise" since I did not call ahead (but I knew I would be welcomed). Angie was absent when I arrived (but she arrived later in the afternoon).
Taken by the hand, walked back to studio 5. Yes an hour. Paid the house and got undressed. Connie returned with the change, and off we went to the TS.
TS 9/10
Super pre-massage included with the TS (which I really enjoy). Connie uses more soap than some, so a great slippery experience with smiles and laughs and everything cleaned, rinsed and fluffed dry. A hot towel over the shoulders and we walk back to the studio.
Massage + back walking 9/10
Winter really dries my skin, so I asked for "medium with lotion". And it was about perfect. Would rate a 10 out of 10 if it had lasted another 45 minutes (but tempus fugit.)
Sometimes I read how people get "antsy" if the massage is too good or lasts too long. I've learned to patronize really good places, and to relax.
Flip
More massage. And a new technique. She got another very hot towel wrapped under my neck and then, like it was in a sling, elevated it a little and applied traction. The pops as my neck vertebrae relaxed was audible. It felt really good. All my stress was gone by the time the hour was up.
Fronts of legs, chest, shoulders, arms. With hip twisting and stretching. All excellent.
More hot towels (to remove any excess lotion), more massage (concentrated on neck), and more smiles.
I do hope to get back next week.
YMMV
Always be nice to the ladies. And if your economy is improving, don't be stingy with your tip unless the experience is lousy. (and GOOD onthose reporting not tipping when the service was bad).
Newbies. Read the boards and you'll learn the standards. And, like in the better resturants you patonize, if it is someone you expect to see more than once, be extra generous sometimes. They remember.
PA
Roamin Roman
01-20-10, 01:42
Not only would I like to recommend Pilot Aviator's post ("Ditto to Dad," below) for inclusion in Reports of Distinction, but I'd also like to nominate him as the NoVa forum's Scribe Laureate.
Any of you other schlubs out there want to second that nomination? :D
Notronmexico
01-20-10, 01:49
On the recommendation of a fellow monger I visited Papaya in the Tyson's area tonight. Liked that it was in a discrete location unlike last time I walked into Enliven with a bunch of people working in the parking lot.
Greeted by mamasan, I ask for Maya on said monger's recommendation. She doesn't know who that is but promises me a "good girl. " I pay the standard. 8 for an hour and head back. In walks Mischa (? Pronounced "Meesha"), a fit Korean in I'm guessing mid 30s. 40s but I'm lousy with age. She greets me with a peck on the lips and stows me in a sauna for a brief minute before leading me to the TS. Right away I like her demeanor, playful and affectionate. Only downside so far for me is that her voice is on the husky side.
The TS was extremely thorough and good times. Much better experience than what I'd had previously. Lots of attention paid to a number of important areas. Afterwards, she dried me off a bit and lead me back to the sauna for a hot 2 minutes or so.
Finally we head to the massage room. The massage was overall pretty good, definitely on the hard side in my experience. The upper back stuff wasn't great (I love having my traps rubbed) and I'm not a huge fan of elbows being jammed between bones so I had her lighten up and that helped. She really shined on the lower back area and upper leg area. Everything down there was firm but relaxing, just right.
The lower legs were a little hard again and she cracked all my toes which I hadn't had done before. I wasn't a fan but now I know (and knowing is half the battle) to give a heads up.
She placed some hot towels on my back for padding and then proceeded with a back walk. I haven't had my "come to jesus" on this yet and so far still prefer a good set of hands but it seemed OK. Good on the legs, a little painful on the back in some places. Maybe cause I'm a sturdy 6'0 220 lbs she thought I could handle more but I like medium firmness for massage.
After all that, time for the flip and definitely by the far the most thorough and enjoyable experience I've had so far. She let everything hang out for some roaming and proceeded to be very friendly with her mouth including BLS and Russian. I'm hoping in the future more may be on the menu but as this was my first time there I didn't press and enjoyed the comparatively upgraded experience. Still, very good finish.
I compliment her service and tip her extra for her effort so hopefully she remembers me. Helps me get dressed, fetches me water, and tells me to ask for her next time. Overall, after visiting Ivy, Enliven, and Papaya once each this is my favorite of the three Tyson's locales so far.
Much thanks to the gentleman with the recommendation.
Black Coffee
01-20-10, 12:29
Not only would I like to recommend Pilot Aviator's post ("Ditto to Dad," below) for inclusion in Reports of Distinction, but I'd also like to nominate him as the NoVa forum's Scribe Laureate.
Any of you other schlubs out there want to second that nomination? :DThis schlub seconds that motion!
I'm a newbie but I concur with your assessment. Went there a couple weeks ago as a first timer and found it pleasant. However, I am hoping for a younger girl next time.
On the recommendation of a fellow monger I visited Papaya in the Tyson's area tonight. Liked that it was in a discrete location unlike last time I walked into Enliven with a bunch of people working in the parking lot.
Greeted by mamasan, I ask for Maya on said monger's recommendation. She doesn't know who that is but promises me a "good girl. " I pay the standard. 8 for an hour and head back. In walks Mischa (? Pronounced "Meesha"), a fit Korean in I'm guessing mid 30s. 40s but I'm lousy with age. She greets me with a peck on the lips and stows me in a sauna for a brief minute before leading me to the TS. Right away I like her demeanor, playful and affectionate. Only downside so far for me is that her voice is on the husky side.
The TS was extremely thorough and good times. Much better experience than what I'd had previously. Lots of attention paid to a number of important areas. Afterwards, she dried me off a bit and lead me back to the sauna for a hot 2 minutes or so.
Finally we head to the massage room. The massage was overall pretty good, definitely on the hard side in my experience. The upper back stuff wasn't great (I love having my traps rubbed) and I'm not a huge fan of elbows being jammed between bones so I had her lighten up and that helped. She really shined on the lower back area and upper leg area. Everything down there was firm but relaxing, just right.
The lower legs were a little hard again and she cracked all my toes which I hadn't had done before. I wasn't a fan but now I know (and knowing is half the battle) to give a heads up.
She placed some hot towels on my back for padding and then proceeded with a back walk. I haven't had my "come to jesus" on this yet and so far still prefer a good set of hands but it seemed OK. Good on the legs, a little painful on the back in some places. Maybe cause I'm a sturdy 6'0 220 lbs she thought I could handle more but I like medium firmness for massage.
After all that, time for the flip and definitely by the far the most thorough and enjoyable experience I've had so far. She let everything hang out for some roaming and proceeded to be very friendly with her mouth including BLS and Russian. I'm hoping in the future more may be on the menu but as this was my first time there I didn't press and enjoyed the comparatively upgraded experience. Still, very good finish.
I compliment her service and tip her extra for her effort so hopefully she remembers me. Helps me get dressed, fetches me water, and tells me to ask for her next time. Overall, after visiting Ivy, Enliven, and Papaya once each this is my favorite of the three Tyson's locales so far.
Much thanks to the gentleman with the recommendation.
Was looking for some afternoon delight on Tuesday so I went by NSP and thought I would try for my second visit.
Didn't call but went directly there and rang the buzzer.
No answer, no little white dog at the door -- no one home?
Tried calling but no answer.
Anyone been by there in the last day??
Are they gone?
Decided to try this spot out. AMY meets at the door. Ok TS. 5 plus in the sauna. Decent oil rubdown. Amazing flip. Gave a bit more tip for the extra sensual put into the massage. Nice place to go to.
Of course if you want details be a senior and pm.
Yuengling69
01-23-10, 13:50
Went back to 1880 in Vienna on Thursday. This was my forth trip to what has come to be my favorite AMP. Every time I have been there I have received ++ service. My only issue is in the looks department. Each and every time I have been there I worry that I have not taken enough paper bags for my head and hers. So if you are just looking for great service, it is a never miss. If you want to be able to look at it as well, you might go somewhere else.
Yuengling69
01-23-10, 14:12
I have an opportunity to try out a chinese condo girl, and have never done this. Was wondering what the rate for this is? Is it DC rate with $60 at the door or N.Virginia rates of $80 at the door...or is it less because it sa condo?
I can guess what the rest of the rate will be (maybe). Not looking for locations or names, just what I should expect to pay.
ThanksThe rate is generally right around $$ and you don't break up your payment. Most of the time, I don't pay till the end. Enjoy, I generally prefer the condos.
...I worry that I have not taken enough paper bags for my head and hers.
Just a note. These ladies read our posts. Be kind to the ladies.
...is the rate at the FCCC.
JJ
The rate is generally right around $$ and you don't break up your payment. Most of the time, I don't pay till the end. Enjoy, I generally prefer the condos.
Went back to an old favorite hoping the CoCo would be running again. Heard that it had been fished out but wanted to confirm.
Greeted by mildly attractive Young lady who was tall for an Asian lady with attractive figure and quite friendly at first.
TS was rather robotic with little effort or enthusiasm that hardly covered all the bases.
Massage was equally dull and she talked a lot. She admitted she talked too much herself. But just kept on talking.
She called for the flip after short massage and then started asking repeatedly if I was ok, or LE or trouble. Which really turned me off. She wanted me to tell here what I wanted and how much I would pay (thought crossed my mind that SHE might be LE and I was being set up in a sting!). Had to get up and give her a partial payment because she wouldn't agree to anything.
Very awkward situation that ended in a dull finish and 45 minute visit.
Would not return and I can definitely say this hole has been fished out.
Hopefully they will restock soon because Young said she had been there 5 months and I doubt if she has much of a following.
Another TOFTT. Think maybe I should take up another sport!
I was in the area the other day so I thought I'd give Spa~Tao a try. Their ads on CL were interesting but I've never seen a review either here or on ********.com. First call: talked to a guy and said I wanted an appointment in an hour. He said call back in a half hour; they only make reservations 30 min in advance. Second call: he checked with the lady to see if she was available and then gave me directions. The address in CL posts is totally bogus; they are located in an apartment building. He asked if I knew their prices and I told him about the $95 in the CL post. He said OK. Third call: he told me to go up to the 3rd floor, etc. etc. The girl met me in the hallway and took me into a nearly empty apartment where she had me leave my phone and shoes at the door. She gave me an envelope for the donation. She counted it and said it wasn't enough; asked me for $55 more, which I gave her, somewhat reluctantly. In the room we both undressed and I lay on the table face down. She gave me a light, brief rub, then asked me to turn over. She immediately started the hj and shortly placed my hand on her breast; refused to let me touch her kitty. After that she said I could use the shower if I wished. Even with the shower I was out of there in just over a half hour. Didn't leave a tip and she didn't act as if she expected one.
On the plus side, the girl was very beautiful and rather sweet and the location is nice and clean and VERY private. Otherwise, it was a total rip-off and I will not waste my time or money there again.
After leaving and still unsatisfied, I drove down to Lily Therapy and saw Kelly, who is probably at least in her late 30's and only average looking, but very nice and very skillful. I have nothing to say about the experience that hasn't been said before, but I left with a smile on my face and I'm glad I went.
I am well versed in the DC and Springfield/Burke area, but I am staying in Centreville until next Saturday. Does anyone know of any good Asian Massage spots in the Centreville area? I know of a couple places in Sterling and Manassas, but being that I don't know this area that well, I prefer not to go to far outside of the city.
Thanks in advance.
I am well versed in the DC and Springfield/Burke area, but I am staying in Centreville until next Saturday. Does anyone know of any good Asian Massage spots in the Centreville area? I know of a couple places in Sterling and Manassas, but being that I don't know this area that well, I prefer not to go to far outside of the city.
Thanks in advance.
Centreville is tiny. Both places you mentioned are like 5-10 miles away. As for some spots....really? REALLY??
Don't be lazy
Max Beelyun
01-25-10, 10:58
Also known as Youngs, I have always had a problem with haggling over there. Really kills the mood for me. Last time I went, the lady wanted 80 for standard because "she was tired, I took too long". Other visits were similar, so I haven't gone there in a long time. Has this not been your experience?
Went back to 1880 in Vienna on Thursday. This was my forth trip to what has come to be my favorite AMP. Every time I have been there I have received ++ service. My only issue is in the looks department. Each and every time I have been there I worry that I have not taken enough paper bags for my head and hers. So if you are just looking for great service, it is a never miss. If you want to be able to look at it as well, you might go somewhere else.
Decided to try this spot out. AMY meets at the door. Ok TS. 5 plus in the sauna. Decent oil rubdown. Amazing flip. Gave a bit more tip for the extra sensual put into the massage. Nice place to go to.
Of course if you want details be a senior and pm.I used to go there all the time when they were called Tyson Therapy and they had an Amy who was a cute tall Korean gal with a brand new set of bolt ons. Any chance that is the same Amy?
Recently had opportunities to visit NSP again.
1. Kelly was as gracious as ever.
2. BeBe is a pleasant lass of early 30s with reasonable back walking abilities and a desire to please. She took good care of me for standard fee and tip. English is barely passing but she understands a man's needs. Senior members can PM for details.
Mamasan greeted me warmly and has shown a great interest in making sure the girls treat me like royalty.
BeBe:
F - 7 soft and pretty
B - 8 supple and petite
A - 8 sexy and plush
S - 8 skilled and pleasing
A - 9 sensual and playful
AD
I used to go there all the time when they were called Tyson Therapy and they had an Amy who was a cute tall Korean gal with a brand new set of bolt ons. Any chance that is the same Amy?PM means send a send a private message for details.
Any chance that is the same Amy?
No I do not think same woman. This Amy much more natural.
Recently had a perfect massage made by girl from http://absolutehot.com/virginia_escorts.
She is a real professional in what she is doing!This is a girl on girl escort service? From your prior posts, I gather you are female.
The post was nothing more than a blatant attempt to advertise a SipSap style competitor.
AD
Went down to Miami recently and posted a review of Yvette in the Miami forum. While doing some research I ran across this statement:
"My limited experience in Florida says that most "Lingerie shops" that offer live modelling may offer the happy ending you require, although I'm not 100% certain."
Has anyone found this to be true in Florida? Miami? How about Virginia? I never thought of looking in one of these. I've shopped for gifts at two of them in Alex and got no hint of it.
Yak
Vamassage Fan
01-27-10, 11:57
Ad on BP advertises as new "Grand Opening" (and it seems to be a new location). Pics look enticing.
Brahmabull
01-27-10, 16:21
Went down to Miami recently and posted a review of Yvette in the Miami forum. While doing some research I ran across this statement:
"My limited experience in Florida says that most "Lingerie shops" that offer live modelling may offer the happy ending you require, although I'm not 100% certain."
Has anyone found this to be true in Florida? Miami? How about Virginia? I never thought of looking in one of these. I've shopped for gifts at two of them in Alex and got no hint of it.
Yak
Where in Alex Va, do they have a "lingerie shop" that offers live modelling?
I went to Papaya today looking for Cece, was told she left, I got a new? Girl named Hana. The over all experience was terrible. 25min massage (I paid for a hour) fallowed by flip, demand for tip and terrible finish. If anyone goes to Papaya and draws Hana, leave & demand your money back.
VAmongerman
01-27-10, 17:30
You mean you believe the pics?
LOL.
Ad on BP advertises as new "Grand Opening" (and it seems to be a new location). Pics look enticing.
LatinaLover77
01-27-10, 17:31
Went down to Miami recently and posted a review of Yvette in the Miami forum. While doing some research I ran across this statement:
"My limited experience in Florida says that most "Lingerie shops" that offer live modelling may offer the happy ending you require, although I'm not 100% certain."
Has anyone found this to be true in Florida? Miami? How about Virginia? I never thought of looking in one of these. I've shopped for gifts at two of them in Alex and got no hint of it.
YakI am from both Northern VA and recently Miami and I assure you, there are none of them here nor in Miami. If you found a place like that in Miami then it was a special event and invitation only like the Miami Velvet club.
Mongeroose
01-27-10, 18:13
Spent one hour with Julie at CTM. Received service below what I am used to from Sarah. Pros: better massage, light nail scratching, looks. Cons: Less playful service, stayed covered, roaming discouraged. Standard everything.
Aman Tuleev
01-27-10, 21:41
Went here couple days ago.
Meet Loki - nice 35-38yo lady, 5'5", very slim with beautifull natural D-cups.
Some tatoos. Fast technical TS. Rather nice massage with followed flipover and standard finish. 3 jacksons for lack of enthusiasm.
Don't think that will return.
OneHitWonders
01-27-10, 23:07
Went down to Miami recently and posted a review of Yvette in the Miami forum. While doing some research I ran across this statement:
"My limited experience in Florida says that most "Lingerie shops" that offer live modelling may offer the happy ending you require, although I'm not 100% certain."
Has anyone found this to be true in Florida? Miami? How about Virginia? I never thought of looking in one of these. I've shopped for gifts at two of them in Alex and got no hint of it.
YakI have been to Victoria's Secret in the malls but no one has ever offered to do live modeling for me! Too Bad. The Girls that work there are always friendly and nice, but never no modeling.
OneHitWonders
01-27-10, 23:14
Also known as Youngs, I have always had a problem with haggling over there. Really kills the mood for me. Last time I went, the lady wanted 80 for standard because "she was tired, I took too long". Other visits were similar, so I haven't gone there in a long time. Has this not been your experience?Not Always. But I do agree about the haggling. It can really destroy the mood for me as well. I hate it when they complain that they are too tired also.
They start that shit with me, I get up and call for Mamasan. Once they realize you're there for one reason and It's not storytime. The next time you cum Mamasan will tell them an advanced you're there for a service!
YMMV however I have good success with this tactic.
with haggling over there. Really kills the mood for me.
"she was tired,
I took too long".
your experience?
Vamassage Fan
01-28-10, 11:19
Convienient location made it worth a try; .8 house fee legit place, typical NOVA experience with girl named Lotto .6 tip (experienced users pm for details)
You mean you believe the pics?
LOL.
I am from both Northern VA and recently Miami and I assure you, there are none of them here nor in Miami. If you found a place like that in Miami then it was a special event and invitation only like the Miami Velvet club.He's confusing establishments designed strictly for the modeling of lingerie, and establishments at which lingerie is sold. The latter-independents, not the chains like VS-may have a rare event for modeling for on Valentine's Day, but that is before a group and it is intended so that you purchase some merchandise. The other type of place are lingerie modeling places, and this site has whole threads devoted to them in locales like Tampa. My impression is that you pay a young woman to privately model lingerie for you, which of course can lend itself to other things.
Went to Papaya on Tuesday and was greeted at the door by Jennifer. Paid the fee and was taken to the TS which was very mechanical and over with quickly. Back to the room for the massage and, unfortunately, more of the same. She only paid attention to my back, legs, and feet with no attention to other important areas. On the flip she immediately asked if I wanted "relief" and when I said yes she wanted to know how much I was going to pay. She also said that if I wanted to touch her if would cost more.
I only went for the basic HJ which was performed with the same mechanical technique as the rest of the session.
This will be my last visit to Papaya unless things change. I certainly would not see Jennifer again.
I did so well finding an independent in Miami that I though I would try the same locally. Krystan had a ad in CL or BP so I called an set up an appointment. We agreed on 1. 5 hours for. 9. She gave final directions to her appartment when I got close. She's at least in her late 40s but holding things together very well, and is well mannered an polite to boot.
Inside its a normal apartment for a new age massagista like herself. Good thing I showered before arriving because she didn't offer one. She threw a sheet over her bed and I assumed the position after taking off my clothes. She gave a good effort while counseling me on breathing and the condition of my chakras, energy, crystals etc. The massage was very comfortable on that big bed of hers. She's certainly not afraid of Johnson, but unfortunately she only introduced herself in passing. She advertises tantric but I asked for theraputic, so maybe she needs another visit to convince her that I'm not LE, but I thought the way I stroked her thigh would have made that clear. Anyway, the only part that I would have changed is that she paused several times and at the end to transmit some energy to me. That got a bit boring after a while.
I think I'll go back just because the overall experience was pleasant. I'm guessing that a three hour tantra is twice what I paid today, so at 1. 8 it might be a fun experiment, or just frustrating enough to make me jerk off. There's another indy on Duke St. that I might try soon as well. Yak
He's confusing establishments designed strictly for the modeling of lingerie, and establishments at which lingerie is sold. The latter-independents, not the chains like VS-may have a rare event for modeling for on Valentine's Day, but that is before a group and it is intended so that you purchase some merchandise. The other type of place are lingerie modeling places, and this site has whole threads devoted to them in locales like Tampa. My impression is that you pay a young woman to privately model lingerie for you, which of course can lend itself to other things.After reading your post, I went to the Tampa forum and did a search on "lingerie." You are right, but it doesn't seem to be the best deal in town.
Yak
Stopped by to check out the new place today and TOFTT. Located in an industrial area above (second floor) a breakfast/lunch restaurant. Lead back to the room by Mamasan who welcomed me as they just opened and lead back to the room. She sent in a very nice/attractive K-spinner named ***who collected the standard house fee (. 8) for the hour. Upon returning she escorted me to the TS. Big shower with two tables split by a shower curtain. Looks like they are expecting a lot of business. I counted eight rooms which are big and spacious & towel warmer in the room! The place is new with a lot of open space along with new carpet. The TS was very good and covered all the right spots. Back to the room and she asked what type of massage I wanted and lotion, oil or nothing. I would rate her skills and abilities at 9 (hard to get a perfect massage). I wanted a back walk but things went in other directions. Sr. Members PM for details. Total: (. 8+STD. Tip)
YMMV, but I would recommend and return.
F – 9 soft & attractive
B - 9 hot
A - 10 sexy & plush
S - 10 skilled & pleasing
A - 10 sensual & playful
Pilot Aviator
01-29-10, 00:01
It was busier at the AMP than I expected. I almost walked away from the door as I rang and no one answered for some time. I only get by this establishment every month or two. And today, I called and stopped and had a really nice visit with Monica. Many things made this nice. Eventhough it was my first time to see her.
Monica is really petite. Less than 5 foot. Less than 100 pounds. Long luxurious black hair. Pretty face and all the rest is lovely. If she answers the door bell, expect a giant experience.
An extra long TS.
A good massage (dry with towels).
Excellent back-walk (like I said, less than 100 pounds. But she really knows how to use her toes.
If you have dry skin like me. A nice rub down with unscented very good quality lotion.
A fine dream.
A really non-rushed, relaxing visit.
For me. And extra almost 20 minutes longer than the hour I asked for.
Standard rates apply but, just like the better resturants, a standard tip is not the way to ensure the best service.
Arrival: 3/10 (they really need to get people inside with less delay. Standing the parking lot.
TS: 8. 5/10 plus and extra. 5. For the first time ever, my face, head and hair were also cleaned as part of the shower. Excellent sauna if you are interested
Massage: 8/10. Strong hands / good feet but the configuration of the room meant it was not easy for her to get to both sides of the table.
Dream: 9+/10
Departure: 8/10. with a nice few words from MMS who kept me inside for a minute while the parking lot cleared.
YMMV. Be nice to the ladies. Always
PA
PS. To the monger who arrived in their car while I was standing at the door. Thanks for waiting the extra couple of minutes for them to get me in and settled before you got out of your car and rang the bell. That was considerate of you. I think you may have drawn BeBe who is as pretty as has been described, tall and quite busty. I hope you enjoyed and were nice to her.. PLEASE POST!
Total: (. 8+STD. Tip)
...
F – 9 soft & attractive
B - 9 hot
A - 10 sexy & plush
S - 10 skilled & pleasing
A - 10 sensual & playful
Guy,
Careful with the abbreviations. Looks like you gave her eighty dollars and an STD.
If you're gonna use my style of alliteration (literary stylistic device that consists in repeating the same consonant sound at the beginning of several words in close succession) you gotta use in all of the categories - not most.
;-)
AD
...I think you may have drawn BeBe who is as pretty as has been described, tall and quite busty.
While I wasn't the one waiting in the wings, I can tell you that BeBe is not so tall or busty (although she is quite attractive). Tall and busty would be Kelly (I've reviewed her before). Quite a lovely experience and highly recommended.
AD
Guitarman1
01-29-10, 08:17
Had a great time with Monica yesterday. She has a good friendly attitude and did not rush. TS was thorough and hot. Great massage with lotion (unscented). She also provided the best backwalking I ever had, she worked her heels and toes nicely. The finish fully lived up to my expectations. Honestly the visit was worth it just for that backwalking alone.
Ok understood (ROFLOL) I did not give her STD Standard Tip for services provided.
VA
Guy,
Careful with the abbreviations. Looks like you gave her eighty dollars and an STD.
If you're gonna use my style of alliteration (literary stylistic device that consists in repeating the same consonant sound at the beginning of several words in close succession) you gotta use in all of the categories - not most.
AD
Went here couple days ago.
Meet Loki - nice 35-38yo lady, 5'5", very slim with beautifull natural D-cups.
Some tatoos. Fast technical TS. Rather nice massage with followed flipover and standard finish. 3 jacksons for lack of enthusiasm.
Don't think that will return.
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I mostly agree. (Hadn't been there for awhile, but neighboring places had pushy hagglers, so went to PT hoping for new gal.) I thought she said Lucky not Loki, but whatever... I'd say average massage which was more her hands pressing down slowly, then moving to next area and slowly pressing down- I asked for medium-hard, but declined getting walked on; maybe that's way to go. When the fun started, I did enjoy both her sensuousness and the lack of the mood-killing haggling. Might've mentioned I had .6 - .8. Must've hot b/c clothes came off. Little more than standard finish. Great dirty talk was unexpected bonus. No problem finishing, w/enthusiam. Left .8 though I was tempted to leave .6, but would rather make friend than enemy for future, and I'm doing my part to stimulate local economy.
OneHitWonders
01-30-10, 00:26
It was busier at the AMP than I expected. I almost walked away from the door as I rang and no one answered for some time. I only get by this establishment every month or two. And today, I called and stopped and had a really nice visit with Monica. Many things made this nice. Eventhough it was my first time to see her.
Monica is really petite. Less than 5 foot. Less than 100 pounds. Long luxurious black hair. Pretty face and all the rest is lovely. If she answers the door bell, expect a giant experience.
An extra long TS.
A good massage (dry with towels).
Excellent back-walk (like I said, less than 100 pounds. But she really knows how to use her toes.
If you have dry skin like me. A nice rub down with unscented very good quality lotion.
A fine dream.
A really non-rushed, relaxing visit.
For me. And extra almost 20 minutes longer than the hour I asked for.
Standard rates apply but, just like the better resturants, a standard tip is not the way to ensure the best service.
Arrival: 3/10 (they really need to get people inside with less delay. Standing the parking lot.
TS: 8. 5/10 plus and extra. 5. For the first time ever, my face, head and hair were also cleaned as part of the shower. Excellent sauna if you are interested
Massage: 8/10. Strong hands / good feet but the configuration of the room meant it was not easy for her to get to both sides of the table.
Dream: 9+/10
Departure: 8/10. with a nice few words from MMS who kept me inside for a minute while the parking lot cleared.
YMMV. Be nice to the ladies. Always
PA
PS. To the monger who arrived in their car while I was standing at the door. Thanks for waiting the extra couple of minutes for them to get me in and settled before you got out of your car and rang the bell. That was considerate of you. I think you may have drawn BeBe who is as pretty as has been described, tall and quite busty. I hope you enjoyed and were nice to her.. PLEASE POST!
Sounds like you had a very pleasant experience!
Regarding the shower, for me, I really enjoy getting my head and hair washed. I do use my own comb to brush my hair afterwards.
I like the consideration the gentlemen give each other when it comes to "arriving at the same time". It's like we don't even notice each other and pretend we do not see each other ...and we wait until it is clear to enter. I think Most of the Experienced guys have this move down to a science!
I remember a very awkard situation when I was told to wait in an empty room and was surprised to find some other guy waiting in there also! I quickly ran out thinking it's not worth it! But I come back later that night when there was no WAITING!!
And yes, I agree...be nice to the ladies.
Benefits of being polite at an AMP: Recently I arrived and saw 3 cars parked in the 'usual suspect' slots near the AMP, and someone walking in just as was looking to park. I waited across the lot. Then a police car pulled in. Then was joined by another. Just talking to each other.but I wasn't about to park and head in. So I left, drove around and came back a bit later. Police gone, original 3 cars gone. And the monger I had seen earlier was exiting.
So just as I decide to park and go in. A pretty, younger gal walks across the parking lot (don't know where from) and headed inside.
I went in and there were 3 older women (who were getting ready to eat) and the younger gal who had just arrived. Who was assigned to me.
Pick of the litter. Sometimes it pays to wait.
Rainmancometh
01-31-10, 16:50
This is a girl on girl escort service? From your prior posts, I gather you are female.That is funny.
Rainmancometh
01-31-10, 17:01
Really? Without a condom? A working girl?
Seems a little far fetched and your behavior quite reckless for your own safety.
Leads me to believe it's not real.
Face: 4 (50 y.o.)
Body: Skinny
Attitude/Service: The pictures tell the story
If you're not willing/able to trade cp vids of this lady, don't bother to PM
Really? Without a condom? A working girl?
Seems a little far fetched and your behavior quite reckless for your own safety.
Leads me to believe it's not real.
Rainman,
You obviously see through birddroppings. However, you might be well advised to spend your time investigating and report rather than bulking up your post count on chiding members senior to yourself - even if it is birdshit.
Jus a friendly reminder.
AD
Went to kings when it was snowy. thought it would be slow and it was. Shitty weather and roads. mamasan love me there. As soon as i walk in she say Sunny not here today but differnt girl. ok what ever. i was not gonna go anywhere else anyway. Got michelle who i did not like and reviewed before. Ok TS, GREAT massage.
What i did not like.. a few things. The massage while good was like going to G in herndon. Not sensual at all. Then she went on my back when she should not be. Her feet are rough as stone and she is heavy as shit. She asked for the flip and did standard.
Gave standard tip and she asked for .2 more. I just said NO, no. Not this guy. I know it was a slow day as I the only one there so far.
What I did like.. seniors can pm.
FYI No I would not want to see her again.
I've had pretty interesting encounters thanks to CL recently so I thought I'd call Yolanda who's got an ad there. Appt. Made with no fuss and no secrets with this home address on Kings Highway. It's an old house but spotlessly clean and she's got the best table I've been on.
I got a 1. 5 hr Sweedish for 1. 0 and she was pretty good at it. The room was nice and warm too. She's small, dark and from Columbia with an accent but no problem communicating. She didn't use any draping at all so I thought an HE was a sure thing. Nothing doing. She wouldn't touch it, even after I asked her and tried to put her hand there. She didn't mind that I rubbed her butt, but the girls were off limits.
She's quite nice though and didn't try milking me for tips, I guess since she didn't milk anything else. There is a shower with clean towels, again spotlessly clean, and I used it after we were done.
All in all, a good massage experience and I wish there were just a bit more. Yak
Blue Star11
02-01-10, 20:47
I had an Asian fever and wanted to try Papaya ( never been there before). Saw their ads on CL & BP ,said it was under new management. Was greeted by mms at the door and guess what?? she's from recently closed amp in Vienna. She was happy to see me there. My provider was jennifer and whole experience with her was so terrible. 10 minutes into the massage we started negociating price. She initially quoted 300. I started laughing hard and asked her what incredible service she was offering. After some time I stopped fucking around and told her I only got 110 in my wallet take it or leave it. She agreed but doing the deed didn't allow munching on the sushi bar or feeding. I got pissed off and just pounded her into oblivion. Keep on asking me if I'm done but I wanted my money's worth so I pounded hard until time was up. On the drive back I started feeling bad for treating the girl that way but I realized I was just mad.
I suggest you avoid Papaya.
Freedomfighter
02-02-10, 18:48
Benefits of being polite at an AMP: Recently I arrived and saw 3 cars parked in the 'usual suspect' slots near the AMP, and someone walking in just as was looking to park. I waited across the lot. Then a police car pulled in. Then was joined by another. Just talking to each other. But I wasn't about to park and head in. So I left, drove around and came back a bit later. Police gone, original 3 cars gone. And the monger I had seen earlier was exiting.Reminds me of the time about 6 months ago that I left Little River Spa on Evergreen and a cop pulled me over after turning left on Litle River Tpk. He told me that I had pulled in front of him in his lane (there are two left hand lanes). What he was more interested in was getting me to admit that I had come from the spa. I vaguely told him that I came from the office park and he pressed me again asking where in the office park I came from. I knew that he knew so I told him where. He proceeded to give me a lecture that they were watching the place and had closed it down before and I better be careful. I nodded, he gave me a warning ticket, but for some reason he did not scare me enough and I go there twice a month.
They have a new girl there now, I wanted Bonnie but they said she was on vacation (is that cryptic for she is gone and never coming back?). So I got Doobie, cute and petite, but no walking on the back subtracts points from her score. Everything else cool, along with some dirty talk where she tells me to come for her. Not a bad massage, decent ending, but not up to Bonnie standards. Funny thing I ran into one of the other girls who I used to see in the grocery store and we talked for two minutes and then went our ways. That was cool.
I was in the area the other day so I thought I'd give Spa~Tao a try. Their ads on CL were interesting but I've never seen a review either here or on ********.com. First call: talked to a guy and said I wanted an appointment in an hour. He said call back in a half hour; they only make reservations 30 min in advance. If this place is in one of those newish apartment complexes with enclosed parking garages, wooden decks, etc and you had to go through a maze of garages and doors and hallways to get to this place AND its over in Fairfax close to 66 I might have bitten this hook once before, myself.
Pretty girls, and they can massage too, but thats about all they can do well (HJ sucks) unless you want to part with $$$. I guess my new rule of thumb is if you see a massage table instead of any other flat surface, expect a massage. Way better service anywhere else, but they seem to survive on that vagueness.
Guitarman1
02-03-10, 11:26
I wanted Bonnie but they said she was on vacation (is that cryptic for she is gone and never coming back?).
Yes it means she is probably not coming back.
I got pissed off and just pounded her into oblivion.
This is a prime example of how NOT to "be nice to the ladies."
What favors do you think you did for the community? For her? For yourself? This was simply bad form. I don't care how bad you felt on the way home, your actions will most likely result in diminished services from this provider as well as their whole spa - long term. And God only knows the trauma you inflicted on the girl. You think she didn't know you were holding a grudge against her?
Do me a favor, BlueStar11, next time you get mad at a girl, pull out immediately and go home. If you're gonna beat on someone, do it to yourself.
And, as usuall in cases like this, this is not a discussion. An apology would be warranted but excuses and other B.S. will not be tollerated.
Thus endeth the lesson.
AD
Cranberries
02-03-10, 17:29
Do me a favor, BlueStar11, next time you get mad at a girl, pull out immediately and go home. If you're gonna beat on someone, do it to yourself.
If you look at his previous post, you'll find he got robbed and acted like a complete pussy. Seems like he's taking his insecurities out on girls who can't fight back.
I suggest you get anger management.........
I suggest you avoid Papaya.
I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists!
Black Coffee
02-04-10, 06:50
I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists!99% of us know what "pounded" means in the context of this board. It is also clear from the narrative what went on in there. An AMP is no place for a one way grudgef***! BC
I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists!
Yeah, I am not sure how anyone can miss-read that. He just decided to rail into her to increase his already ROI.
Brahmabull
02-04-10, 08:43
Yeah, I am not sure how anyone can miss-read that. He just decided to rail into her to increase his already ROI.
EITHER way, he admitted in his own post he was having rougher sex with her because he was upset. That just is NOT COOL on any level at anytime. The next step if it escalates IS physical abuse/harm.
I doubt he meant "pounded" with fists!
anger management.........
The mamasan here seems to have taken a liking to me (I think she used to be a provider there). Anyway, she set me up with Suzy, a decent looking K-girl in her thirties with a nice set of naturals. Overall, it was a pleasant experience.
Detailing - 7
Oil-Change - 8
Lube - 8
Tune-Up - 7
Test Drive - 8
Vamassage Fan
02-05-10, 10:24
Went back yesterday for another visit to relatively new place in Tysons. Advertises as "Tysons Well Being" and lately "Magic Touch Massage" (not to be confused with palce of similar name). Had one of the best experiences I've ever had in a NOVA AMP, thanks to April. A 20 something looker who took care of me. Unfortuantely she was leaving for a vacation, but indicated she will return in 1-2 weeks. Very nice body, young looking (what a suprise in a NOVA AMP), many other very attractive features. 8 house fee; then a $ tip for outstanding experience on all counts. Pm for details, definitely a repeat when she returns.
Pilot Aviator
02-05-10, 18:29
Work closed early, I was ahead of the snow and traffic so I went to K*** today since most likely we'll all be snowed in tomorrow (and our favorite AMPs will be closed).
I was the first (and perhaps only) customer today (Loo/Jenny/Jennie said they would likely close early).
I had not seen Loo/Jenny/Jennie in a year (I think it likely she went somewhere else and has returned). Her name was Loo in 2008 but in 2010 it is Jenny/Jennie.
<Jumping to the end of the story This was a really unusual experience based on my past visits because everything was "blah" except the back-walking which was excellent. More details below. But, for me, I'll ask for someone else next time.
Always be nice to the ladies. Even when the visit is blah.
PA
Details
Greeting: a blah "6. " I called ahead. I was expected. I was the first client of the day. There were no other clients during my visit. Loo/Jennie was not all that happy to say hello. Rushed me back to studio 7. Turned on the electric heating pad for the table, collected the house. 8 for the hour. No conversation, no hug. Did not remember I had been her client several times when last she was in this area (did not remember eventhough I called her by name and reminded her of mine)
TS: a blah "8-" TS was OK. But not really any enthusiasm, just a thorough wash. No conversation
Massage: a blah "7. " <Backwalk was a 9 lots of towels (some was good because it was chilly for a while, some were mostly just in the way)
Flip: a very blah experience (mechanical). Too bad because she is quite pretty. Fair of face (round face, very pretty eyes, brown hair curly/done up, probably 5'6", likely 115 pounds, more shapely than many. And I would have very much liked to have taken a scenic tour, but roaming was not really on the itinerary.
Sit up. Pound on neck, back, and sides. "Thank you all done"
Departure: 4. Shorted me on time by at 10 minutes, did not help me dress at all. I left only the standard tip and made no fuss.
F/B/A/S. 8/8-9/5/7
In retrospect, I think she may have had snow-day blahs and wanted the place closed today (and perhaps, like many of us, she just wanted a little time-off, and my visit was keeping her from enjoying the snow day).
Not often do I have reason to leave an "I was not very happy" report (sorry Angie). YMMV (and I hope it does). Enjoy your snow day
PA
Pilot Aviator
02-06-10, 09:44
Snowed in. Will take at least a full day for me to dig out.
Called two of my favorite AMPs.
No answer at one.
At the AMP closest to my residence, one of girls answered. Since I can walk to that location, I may hike up and shovel her walk and parking spaces when I finish my place.
Always be nice,
PA
Pika Pepper
02-09-10, 00:15
Following a tip from a fellow member, I visited NSP today and had an excellent visit with Bebe. Bebe is 30 something, short, average build, with some nice curves (small waist, good butt). Table shower was thorough, maybe a bit hot, not very sensual. Massage was good to average. The finish was much better than I expected to find in NoVA. Afterward, Bebe spent a lot of time chatting and flirting which was also unexpected and a little flattering. House fee was 80 and I tipped 80, which Bebe appreciated.
Pika
Managed to get through the snow and try a new place for the first time.
Met at the top of the stairs by 30 something with a pretty smile. Led me through a large open area to a treatment room. Susie seemed friendly but stand-off-ish at the same time.
Off to TS which was poor at best. She left the curtain open so anyone could look in and had a hard time regulating the water temperature. Was thinking how I would explain 2nd degree burns on my back in the middle of a snow storm to my SO!!
Back to room and massage that was very mechanical. Roaming while she was at the head of the table allowed but response was uninspiring.
I was actually getting boared and thinking about things other than massage I should have been enjoying. Susie called for flip and asked if there was anything else that needed attention. She informed me that $60 could get the job done and I told her not today - she settled on normal fare.
Nothing in this visit was remarkable in any positive way.
Would not return.
NoFun
OneHitWonders
02-09-10, 07:59
Snowed in. Will take at least a full day for me to dig out.
Called two of my favorite AMPs.
No answer at one.
At the AMP closest to my residence, one of girls answered. Since I can walk to that location, I may hike up and shovel her walk and parking spaces when I finish my place.
Always be nice,
PA
More Snow To Come Miday Today! Plan on another day of digging out. I was surprised to hear that some spas were open during this weather.
I like your idea of walking up to the spa and offering to help out the ladies with the snow. Very thoughtful of you.
Aman Tuleev
02-10-10, 00:56
Yesturday was snowday.
I read on CL something about Grand Opening. The facility is minutes off beltway and very close to my habitat. I decided to try.
Old Courthouse Rd, suite 140B, has private entrance from the back. Camera with infrared spotlight, which will get Your image even in long dark corridor, where entrance is located. Very small/old/ugly mamasan opened door, get me to large room and collected fee for one hour. I undressed. In about 5 minutes large korean girl appeared. She was in her 3X, with may be one inch of stucco on her face, and oversized boobs. They are huge! I was thanking god for giving me a chance to keep that atavisms in my hands. But ... first impression was very-very wrong. I did thing which I usually do with any new and unknown girl in AMP, I did try to do a little hug. It was working with all girls I ever met before, but not with her. She jumped of of me. 'What are you doing!' - she screamed on me .... Whaaaaa????!!!!
Her name is Michelle. Probably, I should to require my money back and to leave imediately. However, I had a little hope that it was just a little twist, and everything will go in good direction. She put me for 5 minutes to sauna after lighting fast TS. She bring me back on table, where I did attempt to get her hand. She was screaming on me on the mix of korean and bad english. Blaaahhh. I required all my money back. She start screaming that she did TS, and sauna, and massage for me and she can not return whole sum. At least I received half of fee back.
I went out of here exactly in 20 minutes after entering, with very bad feeling about that bawdy place.
The bottom line :
1) that is whole new facility, with fresh painting, large shower area and big sauna.
2) they are saving on electricity - it was very cold inside, you could feel it everywhere, especially after TS. That is very interesting, will they try to save money at summer time on conditioning?
3) I am still wondering, was her jugs real or artifical. Man, each are size of my head, and I will never know if they are real!
I'll never come here again.
In about 40 minutes was at Garden Spa, where everything was normal. Not best, but OK.
Stay safe,
Aman
Stopped by V&P Monday afternoon for the first time in a long time. Had a session with Yung (Young? Yong? couldn't really tell). All in all an average experience.
Facility:
*Cleanliness: Good.
*TS: Yes (they didn't have one last summer but have added it since.)
*Table: Reasonably well made and sturdy home-made table. Unlike the professional tables there's no head rest.
Girl:
*Looks: Average looks. Early 40s. Around 5'4" and probably 130. Natural B-cups but starting to sag a bit. Not fat but just average.
*Attitude: Friendly but tried to over-charge. No thank you I'm not paying $.2 for a standard NoVa. During TS she came right out and said that, unlike Sterling, in Chantilly they don't go beyond standard NoVa finish.
*Service: TS was weak with no attention on any sensitive spots. Massage was above average, but roaming was discouraged during massage. Finish was average for a standard NoVa, but didn't include kissing, lip service, or a full disrobe. Only groping above the waistline.
Summary: Might be worth seeing her if all I want is a massage. If I'm focused on the finish I'll look elsewhere.
Note: At the request of some fellow mongers I've not been reporting on my V&P experiences because they had apparently told people that they wanted to keep a low profile, and when they were delivering good service I wanted to help out. Now that they're providing fewer services than the other AMPs in the area, I don't see any reason to keep quiet about them.
PM me if you want more details.
I was in the area the other day so I thought I'd give Spa~Tao a try. Their ads on CL were interesting but I've never seen a review either here or on ********.com.
I put up a review back in Nov that said 'stay away', but haven't heard about them since. Thanks for TOFTT and confirming that they're still not worth the trouble.
For the experienced seniors out there: Would you say that you can generally count on more reliable service from the AMPs than these private residences? Seems like if I get a craving for a massage+finish from a non-asian girl (like the asians, but variety is nice too) these private massagers are the only option.
Third time the charm I was hoping. I went there a few months ago before the change in management and it was horrible. This time greeted by the mamasan and led to the room. They have heat pads on the table. warm...nice. 25 minute wait. I was in no rush.
TS was a bit cold...no very cold. Need to fix that, but it was complete. She rushed becuase it was cold. The boys were getting icicles. In the room the massage was AMAZING. she did the feet, scalp, hands, face, all the spots. Nova finish.
I will go again. Best massage I got in a long long time.
Maya was the provider.
Drunker Irish
02-12-10, 17:13
TOFFT....
Hmmm, not sure how I feel about this. First, took a long time to find the place, my GPS is a piece of crap. My six year old Magellan works better than this thing. I'm going to sell it.
Once I found the place, easy to get to my kind of parking, no problem. Walk in and meet mamasan, have a good conversation, she is a bit peeved because girl #2 of two walked out at noon because of Chinese new year. I won't say girl #1 because she was as old as mamasan. Body of 30ish woman but face of 50 year old. I just kept looking at the body and ignoring the face as much as possible.
Miki started a few days ago.
80 clams for an hour, should have known better and done the half hour, as they were strapped for attendants the buzzer was ringing like crazy. So, wait about ten minutes, then Miki comes in.
Quick TS, even faster massage, and then service.
Mamasan and Miki both apologized, but I got what I wanted, so it was all good.
Weird thing was when I walked out, there was a woman in an SUV who backed in to the parking lot, and was watching the entrance (and me) as I walked out. Didn't see her until I looked up. Either I'm in a butt load of hot water, or the guy that came in after me is, will find out shortly if its me or not I guess. She was defiantely staked out watching the place. Oh well.
I'm not sure how I feel about the whole ordeal. It was good, just the age thing bothers me a lot. Nice body, though...that was the dillemma. The shorted time didn't even bother me...
Anyway, even though well reviewed, still think I TOFFT!
Gents,
I have been out of the game for about 4 years now, so I don't know the "normal routine" anymore. I need some help. I will be in Tyson Corner area for 1 week.
I need a reliable massage therapist provide outcall in the area. I don't really need any FS, but HJ would be nice. Good looking is a plus. I would spend between $ to $.5 for the service.
Please help.
FunSex
Cranberries
02-14-10, 18:32
Gents,
I have been out of the game for about 4 years now, so I don't know the "normal routine" anymore. I need some help. I will be in Tyson Corner area for 1 week.
I need a reliable massage therapist provide outcall in the area. I don't really need any FS, but HJ would be nice. Good looking is a plus. I would spend between $ to $.5 for the service.
Please help.
FunSexYou're not going to find it.
Brahmabull
02-14-10, 19:57
Gents,
I have been out of the game for about 4 years now, so I don't know the "normal routine" anymore. I need some help. I will be in Tyson Corner area for 1 week.
I need a reliable massage therapist provide outcall in the area. I don't really need any FS, but HJ would be nice. Good looking is a plus. I would spend between $ to $.5 for the service.
Please help.
FunSex
Most outcall girls in Tysons are not good at massage at all. In the Tysons area, you are a short drive away from 50 and 495, there are at least 3 independent Asian ladies working near the FFX Hospital Center.
I have seen 2 of the frequent advertisers and highly recommend both for they provide exactly what you asked for, except it is incall only.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1600170516.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1598847111.html
Most outcall girls in Tysons are not good at massage at all. In the Tysons area, you are a short drive away from 50 and 495, there are at least 3 independent Asian ladies working near the FFX Hospital Center.
I have seen 2 of the frequent advertisers and highly recommend both for they provide exactly what you asked for, except it is incall only.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1600170516.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1598847111.html
Thank you for your help. Which one is cuter/prettier? Just for reference, do you know if they also provide FS?
Thank you for you help. Which one is cuter/prettier? Just for reference, do you know if they also provide FS?I wish there was a rule in here to stick with PMs or be more careful when asking about independents. They are nice ladies who shouldn't be put in a spotlight.
Corona1297
02-15-10, 09:12
Does anyone know if this is the Miki that used to be at Soft Touch who went "on vacation" about a year or so ago?
Body of 30ish woman but face of 50 year old. I just kept looking at the body and ignoring the face as much as possible.
Miki started a few days ago.
I just returned from a very nice session at the Pine Tree. Linda did an outstanding table shower followed by Toni and one of the best massage sessions to be had in NoVa.
Standrd NoVa prices of $80/$60 and standard NoVa services.
I will try to see her again.
JJ
Last night I went to Papaya in Falls Church. I've seen other reviews that were not too flattering but decided to give it a try since it was convenient. Rather than play games with the price, I simply offered $200 up front. I said, "make sure you make me come back now". I must say that Jooim (I think that's how you spell it) provided outstanding service. My suggestion, don't play games talking price like your looking for some deal with a coupon in your pocket. Simply pay the going rate for what you see and what you want. I left no further tip and she seemed cool with that.
Rudy Vroom
02-16-10, 17:40
Saw Yumi recently at an AMP near Chantilly. She's a good looking middle-aged girl with awesome natural Ds or DDs. Provided a fantastic shower and finish. Very minimal and mediocre massage. Standard house fee + $. 3, all in. Very enthusiastic service, but a pushy and very flirtatious upsell (kept asking for fee upfront, but delivered)
Seniors can PM for more as I wouldn't want to risk a pushy Uncle's attention. (Sorry if it takes me a couple of days to answer, but I only log on every third or fourth day or so)
Pilot Aviator
02-16-10, 19:16
Until/unless our favorite MMS returns, I will not be going back to K***s. I've found no warmth there for the past two visits (and I note Angie has been missing this entire time).
K***s has been my ATF for years. And what made it my ATF was "the warmth" of the place. The hospitality, the smiles, the friendliness.
I am sure someone will say "if you want warmth, buy a puppy". And perhaps I may. But, when I want a great massage a puppy is not the best of providers.
Until I know Angie has returned, I'll look for that great massage elsewhere.
My visit today.
TS (6). Only the water was warm
Massage (7). Therapeutic back walking, but only the steaming towels were warm (and they were actually nice considering the temperature of the studio was probably below 70F)
However, everything was mechanical. With no smiles, no one happy to be there (and in this case that included me)
MINUS POINTS. Shorted time by 15 minutes. And the place was devoid of other customers from the time I arrived to the time I left (and indications were no one had been there for a while).
With what in my experience is poor service, I would think the place may be lacking clients for some time. But then again, your mileage may vary.
I've been a good client for over three years. Even the new staff knew that I had been a regular customer for some time. So, I think even a lower score should be considered.
Remember to be nice to the ladies. I was nice today (but I was not particularly happy, and no reason at all to exceed standard rates (and I considered deducting for the time not honored)
Ah well
PA
PS. I know our spas change management and owners from time to time. If, perhaps Angie has moved to a new location, I wish her luck. And if you know where she is, please PM.
Rather than play games with the price....
...I simply offered $200 up front.
Simply pay the going rate....
...she seemed cool with that.
That's just it, Nysex. $$ is not the going price around the DMV. Maybe in NY. No wonder she treated you nice. A Yankee comes down south and throws around 25% more tip than normal. What do you expect? She's no fool. But neither did you make her extra horny with the extra .4.
RTFF and learn the pricing structure in a new city before you create problems.
I am one for treating the girls nice and have been known to tip extra. But dropping $$ before the deed is simply showboating and does nobody any good in the long run.
As usual in cases like this, this isn't a discussion. No reply necessary.
Thus endeth the lesson.
AD
It's been a while since I posted simply because there isn't much to talk about. Most of the places I go to are standard everything and with DC shut down, the age and rates(tips) went up, but not the services. Anyway, I don't know if any of you remember one of my posts about me falling for the lady at Green. Kay is her name. I took the advise from some of you and stopped going there. But with the snow I had some time off and I decided to visit again. Called up, got her on the phone trying to make appointment with her. She didn't want to agree and after few minutes she got very impatient and told me just come by, she'll take care of me. Shower, massage was okay, but the final treatment was upsell big time. At the end I got what I wanted at huge cost and it wasn't worth it. PM for details if interested. I don't think I will drive that far again. I have also seen reports about this place on other sites and a lot of people tipping sky high. I'd like to keep it at DC rates. That is second reason for not going back.
Back in 2008 there was lady name Yoyo working at Orange in DC. She was gone through 09, but I've heard she may be back in the area working in Golden in Alexandria. Anyone got any info about her please PM me. Thanks
Found myself in the same complex as Blue Ocean and decided to give it a try. Greeted by mms who recognized me from another spa (can't remember which) and took me to a nice clean room with a heated table. She collected the fee and sent in Angie who was a fairly nice looking 40ish woman. Off to the shower room for a rough TS which at times was uncomfortable. Told her I didn't like hard massage and I think she only knew one style. Back to the room for a massage that was equally rough. Free roaming was allowed and Angie and encouraged. Finish was like she was handling a jackhammer!
I may return to Blue Ocean but I won't see Angie.
Back in 2008 there was lady name Yoyo working at Orange in DC. She was gone through 09, but I've heard she may be back in the area working in Golden in Alexandria. Anyone got any info about her please PM me. ThanksDon't know if same but had a provider at Prince on backlick named Yoyo or maybe Yoko - I asked "Yoko? like Yoko Ono" and she just shrugged and said 'sure, ok' but it might have been Yoyo.
Braved the snowy roads here. And I guess all of you were out in force enjoying the girls, I went to OTC and was asked to come back, when to Pinecrest and couldn't find place to park, ate some lunch back to both. Parking lots jammed. I was worried with the roads so I tried Golden.
Bam! I meet Candy. One of the better looking providers I have seen around here. I bet early 30s, K-gal with a nice, nice body and face to match. I was quite happy.
Pay the fee, TS going nice and then the front door buzzes. Voices in the hall and I hear a fellow hobbyist say "candy". More discussion. Then MMS pops her head in the shower room and a quick discussion in Korean occurs. With Candy no doubt saying "Look I have this old fat naked guy covered in soap, what do you want me to do? "
MMS back to the hall, more talk, then she calls out to Candy- who quickly hoses me off and says. "OK, done". She steps out, MMS comes in and pats me down with a towel.
Now, I have had providers switch on me, and they are all young to me, so I am not complaining TOO much with a change, but still. MMS takes me to room and has me lie down. And then Candy comes back.
Drapes me head to knees, leaves the door half open and proceeds to 'massage' me. More like her hands were on the sheet, and I was underneath it. The only part of the massage that was good. My calves and feet, arms and hands. Which she did nice and proper.
Well, just as the flip should occur. Front buzzer goes off again, and Candy pauses and listens, then MMS calls and she steps out. Same Monger's voice.
More discussion in the hall, MMS then comes in and whips the sheet off and starts to massage my lower back. The door is still open! She is not really paying attention. But listening to the hall. Then she excuses herself and leaves. More talk in the hall.
So I am lying there buck-ass naked and the door is wide open! I close my eyes and decide enough, I am dressing and out of there. When Candy comes back in, closes the door, turns down the lights, introduces me to the girls and we have a quick standard finish.
As I leave. I see there are two other, younger looking, and cute, to these eyes, providers waiting in the TV room. But Candy is in the only one for some other demanding monger. Which caused my potential good time to be an uncomfortable experience.
Wait your turn
Fred Hertz
02-18-10, 08:33
Third time the charm I was hoping. I went there a few months ago before the change in management and it was horrible. This time greeted by the mamasan and led to the room. They have heat pads on the table. Warm. Nice. 25 minute wait. I was in no rush.
TS was a bit cold. No very cold. Need to fix that, but it was complete. She rushed becuase it was cold. The boys were getting icicles. In the room the massage was AMAZING. She did the feet, scalp, hands, face, all the spots. Nova finish.
I will go again. Best massage I got in a long long time.
Maya was the provider.I will confirm this as well. The TS was warm this time. Almost too warm, and they have heaters in the rooms to ensure you are warm. But it was a pretty good experience.
AKFourtySeven
02-18-10, 18:22
Parking lot was full.Passed Backlick,it was full too.Ended up at Sunstar.I got mimi.Older lady with a killer bod.Short too.Had a great massage with standard finish.I think theres more to be had with this one.I'm gonna try the hundred dollar bill on the table trick.
Notronmexico
02-20-10, 18:16
Decided to try Rainbow Therapy in McLean this morning because it's closer to my house than anywhere else and I've tried the other Tyson's area spas once each.
Rang the doorbell and was greeted by June. Probably in her 30s but youthful in appearance. Nice tight body and no lines on her face. Caught a glimpse of another older-looking therapist and I definitely got the better draw. Paid for the hour.
TS was average. She was very skittish and seemed to think I was LE. Even though I act relaxed and confident I think I get that a lot cause I'm young. I encouraged her to be thorough but she said "I don't want to get in trouble." Finally placed her hand in the appropriate spot and she went ahead with a little attention.
She asked me how hard of a massage and I replied "medium." Overall pretty good, not amazing. She definitely put some effort into it though and did more than just poke and prod.
Flip was standard NOVA with a nice view as she stood on the table with her legs over my head and allowed roaming. Before we started she still seemed nervous about me but I assured her everything was cool. Not as many extras as I received at Papaya.
So far I've tried 4 Tyson's spas - Ivy, Enliven, Papaya, and Rainbow. Of them I would say this is probably the second best so far behind Papaya (despite the recent unfavorable reviews). Now that I've been once and they may remember me I'll probably go back to Rainbow again since it's so close and see if I can get the upgraded treatment.
Anyone figured out their best way to incorporate spaworld into their repetoire? For instance, any possibilities there at all, or, is it close to another spa, or do you use it before or after any other place? PM is fine, if this is too public.
Thanks,
Exclient
Aman Tuleev
02-23-10, 00:11
Yesturday went to pin et ree. Had nice TS, and was placed to sauna. Seems that somebody who was here before, farted alot. I jumped out breathless with big wish to throw.
I do not know who did it, but it was not funny. Dear mongers, please, do not eat junk food before visiting here.
Service was as usual, so-so massage with standard finish.
Stay Safe,
Aman
Went by MT today, arrived around 11am for my 1 hour session that ended at 11:25.
I'm going to keep this short. I usually don't request different providers, I just take the draw I get. In the 15 years of mongering (wow, almost hate to admit that), this is the first time that Mr. Happy lost his enthusiasm.
Her name was "Jenny", older, lil bit of a belly, not the cutest. All the more reasons that should have worked for her tip. She was a complete waste of time. Decent TS, terrible massage, 30 sec attempt at sensual massage, fast flip and she went straight for the finish. I had put the $ on the table in advance. Evidently prices have went up and she performed services one level below expected.
However those services were very substandard, as evidenced by Mr. Happy getting sad on me. Eventually oily HJ was the finish. I was disappointed, and got .2 back on my way out. She wasn't to thrilled, but neither was I.
She claimed that FS was $.4. So my tip wasn't enough. I'm glad it wasn't, I'd been so so disappointed had I paid that amount. No way I'm paying that.
BigTigg
Went by MT today, arrived around 11am for my 1 hour session that ended at 11:25.
I'm going to keep this short. I usually don't request different providers, I just take the draw I get. In the 15 years of mongering (wow, almost hate to admit that), this is the first time that Mr. Happy lost his enthusiasm.
Her name was "Jenny", older, lil bit of a belly, not the cutest. All the more reasons that should have worked for her tip. She was a complete waste of time. Decent TS, terrible massage, 30 sec attempt at sensual massage, fast flip and she went straight for the finish. I had put the $ on the table in advance. Evidently prices have went up and she performed services one level below expected.
However those services were very substandard, as evidenced by Mr. Happy getting sad on me. Eventually oily HJ was the finish. I was disappointed, and got .2 back on my way out. She wasn't to thrilled, but neither was I.
She claimed that FS was $.4. So my tip wasn't enough. I'm glad it wasn't, I'd been so so disappointed had I paid that amount. No way I'm paying that.
BigTigg
Sadly, the place has never been the same since Coco left!
As for Coco, I have her digits but she has not answered in quite some time, is she still over in Tysons?
Regards,
MnV
Wayward One
02-24-10, 11:43
Anyone figured out their best way to incorporate spaworld into their repetoire? For instance, any possibilities there at all, or, is it close to another spa, or do you use it before or after any other place? PM is fine, if this is too public.
Thanks,
Exclient
It is close (basically across the street) from Cosmos. I don't know that would be the best way to incorporate spaword in, depends on what you're looking for I suppose.
Wayward One
Wayward One
02-24-10, 11:56
Went to Sterling, saw EuJin, pleasant petite body, age showed in face. Backwalk was nice. Experience was pleasureable and hassle free. Then when it was over she wanted another .4. Not gonna happen if you don't have it on you when you go in (had paid $ upfront). Too bad, cause otherwise i would have definately returned. I still might, but there are enough locations to keep trying different ones for awhile.
Wayward One
Saw Tiffany at NSP this afternoon.
Everything standard for a NoVa place. I will probably see her again.
JJ
Cranberries
02-24-10, 17:22
After losing thousands in online poker over the years, I decided to swear off gambling. Then today on my day off I got sucked in again.
I got an AA and went all in versus a KK on a flop that showed: A Q 10. Turn was a 3. River was a J.
Just like that I was out $600.
To blow off steam I decided to check out a NOVA AMP. I paid $60 for the half hour. The lady was in her late 30's to early 50's. It's hard to tell what age they are. She was about 120 or 130 pounds and had a nice fit body. Not skinny but not fat and no flab. She also had nice tits which were soft and manmade.
We hit it off and I was able to get a BBBJ and came in her mouth.
I don't really frequent NOVA AMPs and the last time I did, I paid $80 + $60 for a full hour handjob and titfuck. Today I paid her $100 in tip and she did not seem to have a problem. So damage was $60 + $100.
Went by MT today, arrived around 11am for my 1 hour session that ended at 11:25.I just dont understand MT. They not only read this forum but they post on it, yet they still continue to overcharge for what a lot consider to be sub-standard selection & service.
Magical Touch
02-25-10, 11:48
Bigtigger,
You have no reason to be unhappy. If you didn't like the service then guys, AGAIN talk to management right there and don't wait until you leave or write here on this board. We do our best to help you guys. What you said never happened. Again if you guys are unhappy in any way then let management know right there!
Our job is not to cut service in order to give you back money!
MoonView – We never had a Coco work here so you are confused with another place.
Magiks – We use the correct going rates and even lower sometimes in order to keep you guys happy. If you think we over charge then I am sorry but you guys (not just Magiks) are mistaken. There might be places that are cheaper but the girls are worse and there are DEFINITELY places that cost more; either in door fees or tip fees. We try to keep the happy medium.
Guys I should not have to say this over and over but we deal with a lot of guys and eveyone is different. We do our best. Some are cheap ($5 tip crap. Yes it happens) and some are assholes and some are nice. We try to loose the negative ones. If you don't like the girls here then don't come. Sorry to be so blunt and borderline rude but when we get new girls we will tell you guys, until then you know who is here. We feel we do our best and you guys deserve an experienced masseuse to work on you. If we can add a dialogue whether in email at magical.touch.massage at verizon.net or from here then great. We want you to keep coming back! (How's that for a sales pitch at the end?) LOL.
Notronmexico
02-25-10, 15:03
Woke up this morning feeling frisky so I decided to pay a repeat visit to Rainbow after my experience last week. Unfortunately, I get there and sign says "Open" but I ring the bell three times (with a few minutes between each) and no one ever answers.
I saw through the blinds at least one girl was in there (didn't get too looky until 5 mins go by), I swear these girls think I'm LE even though I'm dressed in sweats and look like I rolled out of bed - which I did.
Anyway, give up on Rainbow and drive over to Papaya where I previously had a good experience. I ask mamasan if Mischa is working, she says no but promises me a good girl.
In comes Judy, who is nothing to look at - older, short hair, tallish for a therapist, little bit of a gut, bad teeth. I didn't realize all this at the time or I probably would've walked, but when lights go up later or clothes are re-appropriated these things become apparent.
Anyway, first of all their TS is under reconstruction (I saw it myself) and they claim it will be out of commission probably at least through Monday. So avoid this weekend if you like TS.
Back to Judy, massage was not very playful nor was it anything more than perfunctory. On the flip I was having problems maintaining any sort of interest and although there was a bit more on the menu this time than last time, I ended up doing most of the work myself.
To her credit, after that was done she did give longer than normal follow-up massage and I got about 50-55 mins of my hour. Overall, not recommended.
I'll probably chill on Papaya for a bit and try Rainbow again. If I return to Papaya it'll be the evening shift as that's when I had a good experience previously.
I usually don't get involved in discussions here, but based on your response, I feel I must. First of all, I understand you have a lot of different personalities to deal with and some guys can be rude and cheap. For the record, I am neither. I don't think you did yourself any favors with your response. Frankly, I think you may have lost a few good men as a result. I find your response to be extremely rude. Believe me, most of us are not idiots. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. " Moonview has the right place, he just forgot the name, I believe. I think he may have been referring to Amy. Now I will tell you MY experiences.
I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years. Almost all of my visits were with Amy. From the very first visit, to the last, she provided excellent service. When she went on vacation for a few months, I waited for her return. Unfortunately, the last time she left, she never returned. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were BOTH out the door in less than 30 minutes. I did not report this. For one reason, I had not seen MT reported on for a very long time. Secondly, most of the guys on this board stay away from PWC and finally, I was asked not to.
Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there. Finally, I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
Not a sermon, just a thought.
Bigtigger,
You have no reason to be unhappy. If you didn't like the service then guys, AGAIN talk to management right there and don't wait until you leave or write here on this board. We do our best to help you guys. What you said never happened. Again if you guys are unhappy in any way then let management know right there!
Our job is not to cut service in order to give you back money!
MoonView – We never had a Coco work here so you are confused with another place.
Magiks – We use the correct going rates and even lower sometimes in order to keep you guys happy. If you think we over charge then I am sorry but you guys (not just Magiks) are mistaken. There might be places that are cheaper but the girls are worse and there are DEFINITELY places that cost more; either in door fees or tip fees. We try to keep the happy medium.
Guys I should not have to say this over and over but we deal with a lot of guys and eveyone is different. We do our best. Some are cheap ($5 tip crap. Yes it happens) and some are assholes and some are nice. We try to loose the negative ones. If you don't like the girls here then don't come. Sorry to be so blunt and borderline rude but when we get new girls we will tell you guys, until then you know who is here. We feel we do our best and you guys deserve an experienced masseuse to work on you. If we can add a dialogue whether in email at magical. Touch. Massage at verizon.net or from here then great. We want you to keep coming back! (How's that for a sales pitch at the end?) LOL.
Brahmabull
02-25-10, 21:05
I think that your time to be raided is overdue and I do not like the way folks are treated when they are caught up in a raid in your county.
I don't know how you have managed to stay untouched so long but I'd bet your time is coming!
I will continue to leave my time spot in your place empty so some other guy can have the advantage.
JJ
WOW, that came off like you are wishing something bad would happen. No monger wants any spa to ever be raided, even talking about it like is a bad omen or at least bad luck.
With respect I will ask you, what the point of your reply to MT was? I do not see how it directly relates to what he came here to say.
WOW, that came off like you are wishing something bad would happen. No monger wants any spa to ever be raided, even talking about it like is a bad omen or at least bad luck.
With respect I will ask you, what the point of your reply to MT was? I do not see how it directly relates to what he came here to say.I have been to MT and I have never had any problems. I have always enjoyed the ladies. Will say MT is bad when it comes to returning emails, but I have nothing but nice things to say about the woman working there.
MoonView – We never had a Coco work here so you are confused with another place.
MT,
Yes you are correct, I made a mistake about the name. The provider I as thinking about is Amy.
Has returned back from Hawaii yet?
MnV
Magical Touch
02-26-10, 02:11
MT,
Yes you are correct, I made a mistake about the name. The provider I as thinking about is Amy.
Has returned back from Hawaii yet?
MnVShe has been back for a while now.
Susie is gone.
Too many complaints.
Magical Touch
02-26-10, 10:54
I have been to MT and I have never had any problems. I have always enjoyed the ladies. Will say MT is bad when it comes to returning emails, but I have nothing but nice things to say about the woman working there.Mspearsva - I have no problem returning emails, but I won't answer tip amounts and sending pics of the girls (I get it a lot) but please (everybody) you MUST give me something to know that you are real, like your id here or something so I feel comfortable enough to answer your questions.
Thanks for understanding.
Brahmabull
02-26-10, 12:01
Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
Apparently she is.
She has been back for a while now.
I guess sometimes you have to return to find these things out..
Magiks – We use the correct going rates and even lower sometimes in order to keep you guys happy. If you think we over charge then I am sorry but you guys (not just Magiks) are mistaken. There might be places that are cheaper but the girls are worse and there are DEFINITELY places that cost more; either in door fees or tip fees. We try to keep the happy medium.First let me say that if I in anyway insulted the staff at MT I apologize. They appear to work hard and they have always greeted me with kindness. I also hope you understand that we appreciate the fact that management would come here and communicate with us. I wish more providers would take from that example and I hope a few negative replies don't give them or you reasons to stop the practice.
That being said, you are here, on our board, telling us that your rates are the standard fare. They obviously are not the standard and every reader of this forum, yourself included, knows this. I have been to MT several times. From before you took over the tattoo joint and after. It was my go-to for a while. But every single visit included my having to haggle for a fair rate. It was a buzz kill. So I took your advice. I stopped going to MT and found another spot that was equally convenient but didn't require a break in the action to get the money right.
Would I return to MT if I thought the situation had somehow corrected itself? Probably, I don't know tbh. At this point I have sampled the wares of others and have been satisfied with the experience. Thats the problem with poor customer service, once a customer walks away its very difficult to get them back.
Apparently she is.
I guess sometimes you have to return to find these things out..
How can Ken go back to MT now that he declared he won't and more importantly just burned bridges with the proprietor.
And over the years I have always wondered what was up with Sleazebum's continued and consistant rants against frequenting PWC establishments. The only reason I could come up with is that he may have once been an innocent victim of PWC justice.
She has been back for a while now.
Susie is gone.
Too many complaints.
RE Amy; I have serious doubts if this info is correct. If someone visits to confirm, please let me know otherwise if I get there first, I will do the same.
MnV
Cranberries
02-26-10, 15:22
Is Amy at MT the same Amy from HWC?
Meetmehalfway6
02-26-10, 16:26
First time poster. Went to Papaya this morning for a little relaxation. After giving mamasan the standard for a half hour, good looking older woman came in for my massage. She wasn't too talkative, didn't get a name. Gave her a standard Nova tip ($20, right?) prior to her beginning. TS is not in service, so that was out of the question. No lotion, no roaming, no nothing. After the flip I expected the fun to begin. Nothing. She kept commenting how the half hour was over after 20 minutes. I told her I didn't think so. After the 30 minutes really ended and she made no attempt at a finish, I left. What gives?
Brahmabull
02-26-10, 16:47
RE Amy; I have serious doubts if this info is correct. If someone visits to confirm, please let me know otherwise if I get there first, I will do the same.
MnV
Now why would you doubt the owner of the establishment? If he said she is back she must be. He wouldn't damage reputation by telling you she was there if she wasn't.
Now why would you doubt the owner of the establishment? If he said she is back she must be. He wouldn't damage reputation by telling you she was there if she wasn't.
Well...maybe because I just called and was told that "she has been gone for a year and will not be returning but we do have other girls", ie, bait and switch!
I don't make these type of comments capriciously, I base them on fact unlike some here. That is why I worded my post the way I did, for some follow up and confirmation so we don't waste our hard earned money foolishly, OK! ;)
Mnv
Randomvaguy25
02-26-10, 17:29
Was in town for the afternoon last Friday, decided to give Crown a try on my way home. Hadn't been before, but didn't run into any problems (usually admit I'm a newbie up front, since I'm a shitty liar).
I didn't have much time, so opted for 1/2 hour. It's a self shower at that place anyway, right?
Well, gave 60 up front, left 40 tip on table.
Think I had Candi. Good massage, good finish, got out right on time. Quick 'n easy. I'd go back.
Brahmabull
02-26-10, 17:35
I don't make these type of comments capriciously, I base them on fact unlike some here.
Explain what you are saying here.
You have been back, seen all the girls and know that for a fact AMY has not returned? Or you just called? And who is the "Unlike some here".
I went to CTM in springfield today. It was just one of those days when the urge is just too great. I walk in and a small spinner cute asian answered the door. She asks if I have been there before. My reply was honest. I always tell the truth but drop other names and places I frequent to let her know what page I'm on. I also tell here that I decided to try their place because my usual was busy. 99. 999999% the girl is perfectly fine with this answer but today she just starts yelling to someone in the back scenes and then she comes out to take care of me. The new chick Jackie was not ugly, she just wasn't as cute or thin as the first.
(let me interject here for a moment) I look young. I am clean cut. Therefore- young-clean cut equals LE to them.
She then proceeds to ask my age over and over, ask me if I am LE. She is very hesitant at first and when I made the moves to let her know I am a monger, she loosened up. She proceeds with an excellent massage. On the flip, she was fast and furiuos. I had to tell her to slow down so many times because it went from hot to whack a mole.
80 for the hour, 40 for the tip. Go if you want a quality massage, with a standard finish. Be careful though, she will literally beat your meat.
Explain what you are saying here.
You have been back, seen all the girls and know that for a fact AMY has not returned? Or you just called? And who is the "Unlike some here".
I made myself as clear as I will. I'll let MT take it from here, they seem to be active on the site. Or go yourself and report.
MnV
Brahmabull
02-26-10, 18:56
I made myself as clear as I will. I'll let MT take it from here, they seem to be active on the site. Or go yourself and report.
MnV
You didnt make yourself clear at all, actually it was a pretty vague statement.
So you are saying you are taking a shot at someone or some people but won't come right out and say who or what you are accusing them of posting that was NOT factual.
Been to MT many times. I like the place, never a bad experience. I don't know Amy, so I couldn't tell you one way or the other, girls often change their names frequently. I know a spa where the girls do not change, just every 90 days or the boss makes them pick new ones.
Magical Touch
02-26-10, 21:19
The Amy that you guys are referring to is NOT here as of yet. There is a different Amy here. It took me a while to figure out which one that everyone was referring to. Your guy's Amy might be back here in June (according to her) but even I can't promise that. Things could change.
Ken wrote. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. "
My response. I know the facts and I was there. Complain about service at the time of service is your best chance for success. Here too I understand but just get the facts straight because I will call you out on it. I am humble enough to admit wrong and I'll even apologize if need B.
Ken wrote. I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years.. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were both out the door in less than 30 minutes.
My response. The therapist didn't offer you a table shower is incorrect. You never want a table shower even when we offer. Before coming in we told you and your friend that there was only one girl at the time to take care of both of you and that the time would be shorter than usual and you agreed saying, "don't worry, it's me, it's ok, I understand". You knew coming in and now you complain. The higher tip issue I can't say but this particular girl I feel very comfortable doesn't do that. I have known her for too long.
Ken wrote. Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
My response. There are a few reasons why Amy is not here right now and Ken you know very well why since it is ALL related to you. I won't go into details unless you make me. Amy is a very good emloyee and I would be glad to have her back but things will change when she does; if she does. Don't worry guys this is just management stuff that will have absolutely no affect on your service.
Ken wrote. I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
My response. I do apologize or I even explain respectfully and sometimes even both.
You didn't make yourself clear....
Mnv said that he called and was told that Amy left and will not be returning. This appears to be in direct contradiction to what MT said about her being back for some time. There are plenty of people on this board who make statements not based on fact. Mnv's assessment of that fact was accurate and not in need of remedy.
Frankly, $.4 is too much for FS. MT should recognize this fact and make sure his staff understands that to continue to raise prices and reduce services will cost the house and the therapist in the long run. We are in a deep recession. To raise tip prices by 40% overnight during a recession is ridiculous. Further, to say that $.4 is the going rate or is lower than average is, in fact, a lie. There will be a day when $.4 will be the going rate. But even if we were in double digit inflation, it wouldn't be any time soon.
I'd suggest that all parties to this discussion go to your respective corners and cool off. No one will benefit from furthering this argument and reflection on the state of the hobby may be the key to reconciliation.
AD
Brahmabull
02-26-10, 22:04
I'd suggest that all parties to this discussion go to your respective corners and cool off. No one will benefit from furthering this argument and reflection on the state of the hobby may be the key to reconciliation.
AD
Actual he did not make it clear who he was saying was making posts that were not factual. That is what I was requesting clarification on, not AMY's current status.
If he does not care to clarify it then he should not be making any such accusations, I am simply asking for him (he who posts based on FACT) to FACTLY state who he was refering to posting absent facts.
I am not trying to start any arguements here, I want to know who he was refering to, simple as that. Why? Because it seemed as though it was directed at me. So if you can answer for him then do so, if not, I will wait for him to respond.
IF someone wants to say someone else is posting something that is false, he should be man enough to say it, identify the party he is talking to/about and what he believes is inaccurate.
Thanks.
Because it seemed as though it was directed at me.
BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD
I feel the same way. I did not think MV was finger pointing.
BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD
Harley Dude 29
02-26-10, 23:31
I haven't seen much intel on Castle Spa, so figured I would TOFTT and give it a try. The entrance is not much, but the upstairs is very nice and clean. I drew Coco and she came in looking very fine. Off to the TS and she seemed to clean all the right spots quite a bit, and things were looking up. Back to the room and the the massage began. I don't think I have been rubbed repeatedly in the same spots as Coco did throughout the massage. She probably worked my arms at least 5 times, and she made sure she kept any roaming totally away.
She kept saying to be a good boy, and kept my hands by my side throughout. She probably massaged for at least 40 minutes. Then it sounded like she shed some clothing, and she began a rubbing massage on my lower legs and back. But I noticed it was very rough. She had on some type of rough courset or something that was pretty brutal on the skin. She asked for the flip, and she immediately went to a HE with denial of any roaming at all of any type.
Overall, she is a sexy lady, but her technique leaves a great deal to be desired, and she has basically no massage skills beyond rubbing the same spots repeatedly.
I would not return to this one. So I would put this one down as TOFTT.
BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
I have read your posts and I believe you are on the up and up. For instance, I recall a recent discussion that you and I had concerning a poster by the name of ED. You even changed your stance after reading more of the history behind the issue. Apparently ED was adept at posting lies. Could have been folks like him that Mnv was alluding to and didn't want to stir a hornet's nest. While he can speak for himself further on this matter, his original post is still pretty clear to me, and I would suggest that he wasn't pointing a finger at you.
AD
Exactly right and well said AD!
Regards,
MnV
The Amy that you guys are referring to is NOT here as of yet. There is a different Amy here. It took me a while to figure out which one that everyone was referring to. Your guy's Amy might be back here in June (according to her) but even I can't promise that. Things could change.
Ken wrote. If we do not feel the service is up to the standard we expect for the price we pay, then we report it and do not return. That is the purpose of this board. You accuse Bigtigger of lying "What you said never happened. "
My response. I know the facts and I was there. Complain about service at the time of service is your best chance for success. Here too I understand but just get the facts straight because I will call you out on it. I am humble enough to admit wrong and I'll even apologize if need B.
Ken wrote. I frequented your establishment on a weekly bases (sometimes twice) for almost 2 years.. I did not return until approximately 1 month ago. I had a good friend that was interested so I took him there. I was sorry I did. The therapist never offered either of us a table shower. In fact, I was told "No time. " She complained for a higher tip before, during and after the session. My friend and I were both out the door in less than 30 minutes.
My response. The therapist didn't offer you a table shower is incorrect. You never want a table shower even when we offer. Before coming in we told you and your friend that there was only one girl at the time to take care of both of you and that the time would be shorter than usual and you agreed saying, "don't worry, it's me, it's ok, I understand". You knew coming in and now you complain. The higher tip issue I can't say but this particular girl I feel very comfortable doesn't do that. I have known her for too long.
Ken wrote. Frankly, it does not matter to me because I will never return to MT. The reason is not because of the terrible service my friend and I received, but because Amy is not there.
My response. There are a few reasons why Amy is not here right now and Ken you know very well why since it is ALL related to you. I won't go into details unless you make me. Amy is a very good emloyee and I would be glad to have her back but things will change when she does; if she does. Don't worry guys this is just management stuff that will have absolutely no affect on your service.
Ken wrote. I think you need to work on your customer service. Your reply here should have been a sincere apology and that you would have a talk with your staff. Instead, you became defensive.
My response. I do apologize or I even explain respectfully and sometimes even both.
Amy was a fav of mine and a few others here, hope she really does come back to NoVA. In any event, good of you to clear this up.
MnV
Is Amy at MT the same Amy from HWC?
Cberry,
Nope, but the one at HWC was nice too, I remember her well till all the busts started to happen and they finally closed down. She was a cutie!!
MnV
Brahmabull
02-27-10, 13:18
BB,
Unless you are in the habit of posting lies, then you should not have thought he directed it at you. I read the post and didn't think he was talking about me.
AD
Perhaps I read more into it then was intended, I took it as directed at me because it was a direct response to my post, and no I am not in the habit of posting lies. I have only posted what my experiences have been or have taught me. As always YMMV.
I personally tend to stay clear of generalized statements/comments like that for the very reason that I do not want anyone to unintentionally take offense.
Anyway looks like a beautiful day to visit an AMP..
Logged in the check the boards and there are two pages of y'all talking about who said what when and who is lying, and who is not and who is talking about who is lying, and whom someone actually meant was saying what and so on. Informative, I suppose, but....but now I am wondering which AMP is "MT"? There is lots of magic on CL, so it might be any of four places. PM with the name? I will go, enjoy (or not) and give fresh report.
Ok, I don't engage in back and forth on the boards. I try to stick to reporting the facts of my experiences.
This board is one of the few places I can be totally honest especially as a hobbyist. It's interesting to see a provider on here engaging us. I do feel that MT may be missing the opportunity to gain some goodwill with the team. Not to mention use the board as a way to become our preferred provider. Wouldn't that be neat..... "Magical Touch, official provider of USG". LOL
Anyway, this is the first and I hope last flame thread I've been a part of. I almost said "created", but MT created this all by him/her self.
My fellow hobbyist, keep up the good work. We share because we care. That's what's it's all about.
BigTigg
...is exactly right. I still wonder how MT stays open when all the others have been raided and caused untold grief to the guys trapped inside at the time.
Still too dangerous for me anyway but everyone can pick their own peril.
JJ
Ok, I don't engage in back and forth on the boards. I try to stick to reporting the facts of my experiences.
This board is one of the few places I can be totally honest especially as a hobbyist. It's interesting to see a provider on here engaging us. I do feel that MT may be missing the opportunity to gain some goodwill with the team. Not to mention use the board as a way to become our preferred provider. Wouldn't that be neat..... "Magical Touch, official provider of USG". LOL
Anyway, this is the first and I hope last flame thread I've been a part of. I almost said "created", but MT created this all by him/her self.
My fellow hobbyist, keep up the good work. We share because we care. That's what's it's all about.
BigTigg
Guitarman1
02-28-10, 10:09
You have no reason to be unhappy. If you didn't like the service then guys, AGAIN talk to management right there and don't wait until you leave or write here on this board. We do our best to help you guys. What you said never happened. Again if you guys are unhappy in any way then let management know right there!
The problem is that it just kills the mood. So we have our session cut short, and we come to you to complain. What are you going to do, force the girl to come back in and give the full time? By that point we already see that the girl isn't into it, so the experience is no longer pleasant for us.
Guitarman1
02-28-10, 10:19
And over the years I have always wondered what was up with Sleazebum's continued and consistant rants against frequenting PWC establishments. The only reason I could come up with is that he may have once been an innocent victim of PWC justice.
I think it is completely understandable. MT is the exception in PWC, not the rule. Look at the places that have been raided, some have been raided like a dozen times, others shut down after being raided a few times. HWC shut down after a few raids. Kinja is shut down. Sakura is still open, uses another name now, but seems to be raided regularly. Soo Goung has been raided and changed names. YST has been raided a few times and changed names a few times. A Plus was raided. Eva has been raided and was shut down for awhile. Sleazebum doesn't want to roll those dice, and I can't blame him.
I went there a long time ago, so I can't say if it has gotten better. I sometimes give a place a second chance. Of those times: TS was mechanical and Massage was always short(like 15 to 20 mins.). The ONLY thing good was a better than standard finish. But after many raids(at other places), I will not venture into PWC. No way, no how. The bible belt has too much influence in this area.
Lovejugs
AKFourtySeven
02-28-10, 10:56
YST rings a bell.if I recall,Kinja going out of business was related to the poor condition of its facility?place was always closed when I went there.
Magical Touch
02-28-10, 11:03
I agree to try and be more friendly to you guys on this board. After all the purpose of this is to create a report that benefits all of us. Thanks guys for understanding.
About "talking to management" at the time. I can't say exactly what will happen except that we will do our best to handle each one of you and your concerns on a "case by case" basis. Sorry that I can't make blanket statements regarding this.
Even though PWC is like it is right now I want you guys to still feel comfortable and relax when and if you come over. Thanks guys for keeping us busy; even in times like this.
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