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1. I do not believe you
2. If you are tellking the truth I do not want anything to do with her
3. If you are not telling the truth you will seriously damage this woman's reputation.
4. I do not believe you anyway.
JJ
Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for details
What he said. A. H.
1. I do not believe you
2. If you are tellking the truth I do not want anything to do with her
3. If you are not telling the truth you will seriously damage this woman's reputation.
4. I do not believe you anyway.
JJ
LatinaLover77
08-18-09, 21:48
Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for details
Is BBA= BareBack Anal?
What was the cost for each service that she provided?
BBFS-
BBBJCIMS
BBFS, BBBJCSIM, BBA @ Legit MP all that in a 50 - 60 minute service? Did you skip the TS?
You must be a machine gun unless you opted for more time. How much time and tip did those three shots take (or did you have several shot in each local)?
Once in Sterling I was given an BBFS but that was a long time back and she did not ask for anything more than the norm and was just nice and kind and willing to please. That goes back a few years when MPs were ample and ladies were kind. Do not have that here at this time.
Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for details
Dfs N Vabeach
08-19-09, 08:15
Long time reader first post, so go easy on me.
Visited a private provider (CoCo) in Fairfax, Va last night (Tue, 18 Aug); Location was discrete, ample parking; she's using the wait at the entry to the complex, you call her and then she calls you to give you final directions; said she's 29, more like mid 30's but very nice; her outfit was revealing, but stayed on during the service; regular shower offered (no TS); massage was excellent (9/10), walked on my back with her knees and used her elbows; no roaming of any kind allowed; she said maybe next time as I was a first timer with her; standard NoVa flip; but not rushed; she took a little long to set up before I arrived so she took her time, nice touch; .8 for service and.4 up sell for standard NoVa finish, paid too much, but being new that was expected. This was only my second time in NoVa so I wasn't sure what the cost should be. I went there hoping to see all the items on the menu, but was disappointed, we'll see what a second appointment offers, if not then I'll continue my search. Since I'm new I'll not give out any other details for fear of giving too many or to the wrong person. I live in hampton roads and travel up to work each week. One or two guys out there helped me a little, so thanks. One last question; what does the typical NOVA finish cost and what would be the standard tip, I'm thinking.6 and.2, but I'm not sure, thanks again.
Rrlightswitch
08-19-09, 16:36
I can't stop thinking about getting a massage at an AMP. I'm very curious and was just wondering if anyone knows anything about bodywork treatment in manassas. Also, I'm 19, maybe look alittle younger, will this affect me getting the good stuff? . I know they charge 50 for the half hour so I will bring a hefty tip.
Any help would be appreciated.
LatinaLover77
08-19-09, 22:22
Long time reader first post, so go easy on me.
Visited a private provider (CoCo) in Fairfax, Va last night (Tue, 18 Aug); Location was discrete, ample parking; she's using the wait at the entry to the complex, you call her and then she calls you to give you final directions; said she's 29, more like mid 30's but very nice; her outfit was revealing, but stayed on during the service; regular shower offered (no TS); massage was excellent (9/10), walked on my back with her knees and used her elbows; no roaming of any kind allowed; she said maybe next time as I was a first timer with her; standard NoVa flip; but not rushed; she took a little long to set up before I arrived so she took her time, nice touch; .8 for service and.4 up sell for standard NoVa finish, paid too much, but being new that was expected. This was only my second time in NoVa so I wasn't sure what the cost should be. I went there hoping to see all the items on the menu, but was disappointed, we'll see what a second appointment offers, if not then I'll continue my search. Since I'm new I'll not give out any other details for fear of giving too many or to the wrong person. I live in hampton roads and travel up to work each week. One or two guys out there helped me a little, so thanks. One last question; what does the typical NOVA finish cost and what would be the standard tip, I'm thinking.6 and.2, but I'm not sure, thanks again.
.40 is a standard tip for a NoVa finish. If they provide cbj I would bump it up to .60 or .80 depending on the service. You are not going to find any FS providers in Northern VA unless they know you and they do it without the MMS knowing. The condo's offer more but they aren't massage parlors and you're looking at $.60 for FS for roughly 45minutes.
If any members would PM me about these condo's.
I've never experienced them, just AMP's with my fav bein K**s.
Thanks!
Dfs N Vabeach
08-20-09, 02:42
.40 is a standard tip for a NoVa finish. If they provide CBJ I would bump it up to.60 or.80 depending on the service. You are not going to find any FS providers in Northern VA unless they know you and they do it without the MMS knowing. The condo's offer more but they aren't massage parlors and you're looking at $.60 for FS for roughly 45minutes.Sir,
Thanks for the info; I visited a place over on Wisconsin tonight and it was totally different from Tue night, I'll post more on that in a new report, I was looking for the provider on Tue to show more of the merchandise, but I understand that that part of the store is closed. I wasn't looking for FS. The service was great and the place was nice. I'll most likely be back. I'd like to find the same service but closer to Bailey's Crossroads area.
Member #3960
08-20-09, 11:49
Only had time for a half hour, used CC, got Kim. Great massage, but no extras offered whatsoever.. Tried inquiring, but was shot down almost immediately. In fact, she focused only on my back. Didn't even get to the front. Tried offering to pay more for the front, but she said I had to restart the whole thing.
Anyway, have any of you guys tried this place? Any success? From what I can read of the posts, I'd say no, but there are so many posts in this forum.
BD Thanks for the info.
Guys,
I have confirmed it. Although I did not partake (don't like walking that line). Anways, I agree with his ratings. Also, there is a cool thing where you get to watch a dvd while getting the back rub. PM me for details.
Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for details
Only had time for a half hour, used CC, got Kim. Great massage, but no extras offered whatsoever.. Tried inquiring, but was shot down almost immediately. In fact, she focused only on my back. Didn't even get to the front. Tried offering to pay more for the front, but she said I had to restart the whole thing.
Anyway, have any of you guys tried this place? Any success? From what I can read of the posts, I'd say no, but there are so many posts in this forum.
I was there well over a year ago. Got a nice assisted stand-up shower, good massage and NOVA finish with roaming allowed. She said I could have had more if I had asked. (I wish she had said that earlier!) Again, that was over a year ago and a long way from where I live so I haven't been back but I might in the future. After all of this time even MMMV!
Confirming Bird Dropping's report also.
Though there are some idiots who actually claim I'm Bird Dropping.
MrSunnyHills
08-20-09, 21:23
I called my regular private masseuse and she was unavailable. I tried the number of a couple of Thai's in the Van Dorn area, but no answer. (not the higher priced ones in the Vin/Jan flavor - not enough funds).
So I found myself by Backlick and Edsall and a McDonalds. I've always had pretty good luck here (though nothing like the Pon days). Anyway, no Angie at the door. So I go in and Mona comes in the room. Typical middle age Korean - avg. face, decent up top, a bit but not too much other fat.
Table shower was comprehensive - even filed some rough spots on my feet. Back to the room - decent temperature inside. She leaned close to my ear and asked what type - I said first strong then soft (I like massage). She worked me over really well. Great massage, also very comprehensive. On the flip, access was granted to a certain extent and the finish was fine. Gave the usual Nova tip (I like that she said put it on the table and didn't even look at the amt). Exited with the usual water, satisfied.
Will probably go back to my regular but it was a nice diversion.
This report is a couple of weeks overdue. I was up in Sterling on a job and was planning to visit a DC spa but I was out working in the sun all day and my back was killing me so I looked on CL for a spa nearby. There was an ad for King Therapy and it was only a mile or so from the hotel so I decided to take a trip. I really wanted a place with everything on the menu but with the sore back and all around tiredness I figured anything would be better than nothing. The visit started out bad but got really really good. I rang the buzzer and the mamasan let me in. She was probably 60 or so. I gave her .8 for the hour and she took me in for the table shower. I've never had this happen but after reading around this site I new it does occasionally. She washed my back told me to flip. She washed the front until she got to the delicate area and handed me the washcloth and told me to clean that area. Crap, I thought. This is not going to be a good visit. So I washed the area and she handed me a towel to dry myself off. I was thinking two things would happen. The mamasan would give me the massage and I would leave. Or worse she would also provide service on the flip. I figured I'd just hopefully get a good massage and leave.
She lead me to the room and I laid on the table and she through a bunch of hot towels on my back. She rubbed my shoulder for a minute or so and left. I laid there for what seemed like 10 minutes hoping that the real girl was busy would come in and finish the job. Then the door opens and I look up. Its mamasan again and she throws another towel on me and rubs my scalp for about 30 seconds and leaves. I lay there for another 10 minutes getting pissed off. At this point I'm ready for a massage. I didn't care about any extras. Just get me back to the hotel so I can sleep.
The door opened again. I looked and saw some super smooth legs in a tight little denim mini skirt. I sigh in relief and tell the girl I'm so happy to see her. She said her name was Sunny and she ripped off the many layers of hot towels still on my back and starts the massage. She asked how I heard about the place and I mention the ad. She asked what it said and I told her it said something about beautiful asian girls. She asked if it was the truth and I realized that I never even looked up at her face. I gazed up and saw an very pretty woman looking back and said the ad very accurate. She hopped off and stood at the front of the table and continued to rub my back. I started caressing her thighs and kept roaming up. She never stopped me and just giggled when I reached the promised land. She seemed to enjoy what I was doing. She told me to flip over and for probably the first time in my life. I told her wasn't ready for that and asked her to walk on my back first. Good choice! She got off walking on me. She must have cracked everything and giggle everytime she heard a pop.
After a few minutes it was time to flip over. She rubbed a little on the front and of course brushed against the goods a few times. I was reaching down and brushing against her goods too. Things got going and she stripped down to some sexy lingerie and started kissing me. It was pretty odd to tell you the truth. In all my visits to AMP I have never been kissed except for a goodby kiss on the cheek. But there I was making out with her. This went on for a while with the requisite petting. She kissed me down my chest and started using her hands in a very good way.
She then moved into nice 69 position so I dove in. This seemed to go on forever and from the way her thighs were clamped around my head, she had to be enjoying herself. It was really something and despite holding on as long as I could I finally gave in. She got cleaned me off and then laid next to me for a few minute sighing heavily. Then she kissed my again and again. I was just about ready for another run and she seemed willing when the mamasan banged on the door and screamed, "1 hour". I looked at the clock and realized that I had been in there almost and hour and a half. All this for 1.4
As I was leaving she gave me another kiss and whispered, "next time bring (protection).
The next day I debated going back because money was tight. But come on, I was leaving town that night so I had to go back. I was praying that Sunny would answer when I went and my prayers were answered. She opened the door and smiled. I gave her a big hug and she leaned in and asked if I brought what she told me too. Fuck! I didn't! I told her to wait a second and ran back to the car and just about ripped apart my suitcase looking. And there it was, hiding in the corner of my bag. I go back up and mamasan answered the door. She was giving me the evil eye. I told her I left my wallet in the car and had to go get it. Sunny came back out and took me to the back room. I gave her the .8 door fee and got ready. She came back in and I apologized for being so hot and sweaty. She sexually said, "I like sweaty" and licked my chest.
She led me to the shower room and gave me one hell of the table shower. We went back to the room and she remembered just what I wanted in a massage and did it all. I've read on the site a few times where guys asked the girl if they could massage her. So I went for it. She looked at me like I was nuts but she went for it . I started out trying to give her a real massage but pretty much just ended up licking her all over.
To make a long story short. Like thats possible at this point. The second trip was better than the first, and that's saying something. She was just as enthusiastic and since I brought my own gear I was able order a full coarse off the menu, or at least the front of the menu. I will say that she told me be quiet and very silently locked the door so the mamasan wouldn't know.
I will say that these two trips were the best times I've ever had at an AMP and to be honest if this place was in the Tidewater area I probably would have tried to keep it secret. But it's yours so use it wisely. I am glad its not here because Sunny would have bankrupted me.
Computer Luvvv
08-21-09, 04:13
Have seen 2 young ladies in there since they have opened. Have had a good time with each visit. The taller one seems to get more friendlier with each visit. The only bad part is that mms mite give u the shower (hahahahahah) but overall a good visit.
Computer Luvvv
08-21-09, 04:34
1. I do not believe you
2. If you are tellking the truth I do not want anything to do with her
3. If you are not telling the truth you will seriously damage this woman's reputation.
4. I do not believe you anyway.
JJMan, come on BBFS, you got to be kidding me! Why would you want it anyway? Sleaze, this dude is crazy!
Computer Luvvv
08-21-09, 04:52
Justforme is on my ignore list so I missed his posting about Green. I find the ladies start asking for 140-160,but when they see cash in hand -100,they take it with all services rendered. Paying more doesn't make one a sucker,but thinking too much with the little head.In Nova it is what it is, very rare will u find one that does it all, in the many years that I roamed around NOVA(only bacuz I live here), at the AMPs, I have had FS with only 3 ladies).
This report is a couple of weeks overdue. I was up in Sterling on a job and was planning to visit a DC spa but I was out working in the sun all day and my back was killing me so I looked on CL for a spa nearby. There was an ad for King Therapy and it was only a mile or so from the hotel so I decided to take a trip. I really wanted a place with everything on the menu but with the sore back and all around tiredness I figured anything would be better than nothing. The visit started out bad but got really really good. I rang the buzzer and the mamasan let me in. She was probably 60 or so. I gave her.8 for the hour and she took me in for the table shower. I've never had this happen but after reading around this site I new it does occasionally. She washed my back told me to flip. She washed the front until she got to the delicate area and handed me the washcloth and told me to clean that area. Crap, I thought. This is not going to be a good visit. So I washed the area and she handed me a towel to dry myself off. I was thinking two things would happen. The mamasan would give me the massage and I would leave. Or worse she would also provide service on the flip. I figured I'd just hopefully get a good massage and leave.
She lead me to the room and I laid on the table and she through a bunch of hot towels on my back. She rubbed my shoulder for a minute or so and left. I laid there for what seemed like 10 minutes hoping that the real girl was busy would come in and finish the job. Then the door opens and I look up. Its mamasan again and she throws another towel on me and rubs my scalp for about 30 seconds and leaves. I lay there for another 10 minutes getting pissed off. At this point I'm ready for a massage. I didn't care about any extras. Just get me back to the hotel so I can sleep.
The door opened again. I looked and saw some super smooth legs in a tight little denim mini skirt. I sigh in relief and tell the girl I'm so happy to see her. She said her name was Sunny and she ripped off the many layers of hot towels still on my back and starts the massage. She asked how I heard about the place and I mention the ad. She asked what it said and I told her it said something about beautiful asian girls. She asked if it was the truth and I realized that I never even looked up at her face. I gazed up and saw an very pretty woman looking back and said the ad very accurate. She hopped off and stood at the front of the table and continued to rub my back. I started caressing her thighs and kept roaming up. She never stopped me and just giggled when I reached the promised land. She seemed to enjoy what I was doing. She told me to flip over and for probably the first time in my life. I told her wasn't ready for that and asked her to walk on my back first. Good choice! She got off walking on me. She must have cracked everything and giggle everytime she heard a pop.
After a few minutes it was time to flip over. She rubbed a little on the front and of course brushed against the goods a few times. I was reaching down and brushing against her goods too. Things got going and she stripped down to some sexy lingerie and started kissing me. It was pretty odd to tell you the truth. In all my visits to AMP I have never been kissed except for a goodby kiss on the cheek. But there I was making out with her. This went on for a while with the requisite petting. She kissed me down my chest and started using her hands in a very good way.
She then moved into nice 69 position so I dove in. This seemed to go on forever and from the way her thighs were clamped around my head, she had to be enjoying herself. It was really something and despite holding on as long as I could I finally gave in. She got cleaned me off and then laid next to me for a few minute sighing heavily. Then she kissed my again and again. I was just about ready for another run and she seemed willing when the mamasan banged on the door and screamed, "1 hour". I looked at the clock and realized that I had been in there almost and hour and a half. All this for 1.4 As I was leaving she gave me another kiss and whispered, "next time bring (protection).
The next day I debated going back because money was tight. But come on, I was leaving town that night so I had to go back. I was praying that Sunny would answer when I went and my prayers were answered. She opened the door and smiled. I gave her a big hug and she leaned in and asked if I brought what she told me too. Fuck! I didn't! I told her to wait a second and ran back to the car and just about ripped apart my suitcase looking. And there it was, hiding in the corner of my bag. I go back up and mamasan answered the door. She was giving me the evil eye. I told her I left my wallet in the car and had to go get it. Sunny came back out and took me to the back room. I gave her the.8 door fee and got ready. She came back in and I apologized for being so hot and sweaty. She sexually said, "I like sweaty" and licked my chest.
She led me to the shower room and gave me one hell of the table shower. We went back to the room and she remembered just what I wanted in a massage and did it all. I've read on the site a few times where guys asked the girl if they could massage her. So I went for it. She looked at me like I was nuts but she went for it. I started out trying to give her a real massage but pretty much just ended up licking her all over.
To make a long story short. Like thats possible at this point. The second trip was better than the first, and that's saying something. She was just as enthusiastic and since I brought my own gear I was able order a full coarse off the menu, or at least the front of the menu. I will say that she told me be quiet and very silently locked the door so the mamasan wouldn't know.
I will say that these two trips were the best times I've ever had at an AMP and to be honest if this place was in the Tidewater area I probably would have tried to keep it secret. But it's yours so use it wisely. I am glad its not here because Sunny would have bankrupted me.This is a great place. Luckily, some people don't try it because of the neighborhood.
Computer Luvvv
08-21-09, 15:48
Went over to King today (fri) for the uuuummm, 4th time, twice I have seen Sunny, once Candi and once the other girl. Very important info on this place, hit me up via the back channels for this info (sr mem's). All I can say is that I was shocked!
Ginger Man
08-21-09, 15:51
Man, come on BBFS, you got to be kidding me! Why would you want it anyway? Sleaze, this dude is crazy!
I agree completely. First there were rapists filming and selling their stuff, now BBFS and anal? AIDS, Herpes, the clap, yeah I want that.
What is going on here in NOVA?
Computer Luvvv
08-21-09, 15:52
In Nova it is what it is, very rare will u find one that does it all, in the many years that I roamed around NOVA(only bacuz I live here), at the AMPs, I have had FS with only 3 ladies).I think my average just went up over the past 2 weeks, hit me up via the back channels for specifics.
I think my average just went up over the past 2 weeks, hit me up via the back channels for specifics.I knew it was too good to last. Well, it was nice.
I saw this place in CL and figured it's worth a try. Went in and opted for the half since they said there was no TS. During the was a little roamin. At the end I guesture for a deeper massage and ended up getting one. The only difference I see is that you used CC.
Only had time for a half hour, used CC, got Kim. Great massage, but no extras offered whatsoever.. Tried inquiring, but was shot down almost immediately. In fact, she focused only on my back. Didn't even get to the front. Tried offering to pay more for the front, but she said I had to restart the whole thing.
Anyway, have any of you guys tried this place? Any success? From what I can read of the posts, I'd say no, but there are so many posts in this forum.
Went there today and saw Coco. Excellent massage and the flip was very enjoyable. They have a new mamasan who made it a point to ask me about the quality of my provider as I was leaving. Despite the bad reports I've been seeing on this board regarding the quality of service at NOVA AMPs, I believe 112 is the exception. The girls have good attitudes, no upsell, and I've had a great time with each visit.
I agree...
Mamasans are not only there to collect house fees and knock the doors when time is up, they are also there to make sure customers are happy and returning, keeping the business profitable.
In most cases, report any dissatisfaction to mamasan and she will make it right.
Lastly, I've always found a good relationship with the mamasan key to great visits!
MnV
Went there today and saw Coco. Excellent massage and the flip was very enjoyable. They have a new mamasan who made it a point to ask me about the quality of my provider as I was leaving. Despite the bad reports I've been seeing on this board regarding the quality of service at NOVA AMPs, I believe 112 is the exception. The girls have good attitudes, no upsell, and I've had a great time with each visit.
Roamin Roman
08-22-09, 12:41
Mamasans are not only there to collect house fees and knock the doors when time is up, they are also there to make sure customers are happy and returning, keeping the business profitable.
In most cases, report any dissatisfaction to mamasan and she will make it right.
MnVThis pair of reports appeared in the latest edition of the Vienna Connection (apparently a small newspaper concerned with local events in the Vienna and surrounding areas):
Crime Report
Wednesday, August 05, 2009
Activities reported by the Vienna police department through July 31.
Arrests
100 Block Maple Ave., East. July 30, 8:14 p.m. MPO Burchfield and Sergeant Juelharte were summoned for a fight in progress call at the Best Healing Therapy. After arriving, it was learned that a terminated employee in another case had falsely summoned police. A female of Valley Stream, New York was arrested for Falsely Summoning Police. She was then transported to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center and held on a $3000 bond.
Trespassing
Best Healing Therapy, 112 Maple Ave., East. July 30, 4 p.m. MPO Burchfield responded on a complaint from a business owner. The owner had fired an employee and the employee refused to leave the building. After MPO Burchfield’s arrival the fired employee complied and vacated the premises.
Whether the former employee had been fired for poor customer service or some other reason is unknown, but it seems as though the MMS who runs this establishment wants to keep things on an even keel. As for the employee who was fired, $3000 bond amounts to a lot of tips.
R::R
Pilot Aviator
08-22-09, 12:42
There is a reason newbies are most often chided. They ask questions before they read the board. And there is a wealth of great information on this board.
For some time I had been intending to visit a new place not far from my usual travels/haunts. Reports on this place have been scarce (although they advertise a lot on CL). So, although they are not technically operating under the radar, I'd not heard a lot.
Recently a post identified a truly good provider. And as usual, the location was a bit vague. I thought I knew where this was. And a short PM confirmed (I was wrong. But, my brother monger told me the right place)
***TIP TO NEWBIES: in that PM, I demonstrated enough knowledge of the hobby and the area that the poster felt confident in sharing details. Lesson. It is better to exchange info than just to ask for info.
(ST) is in a good NoVA location (at least for me). It is marked with a standard entrance which provides some discretion (at least during the day when there are many reasons to be in that area) with plenty of parking.
I called ahead for an appointment with CANDY (MMS appreciates that. MMS also appreciates a happy customer that shows respect to her position and the ladies in her establishment).
(ST) is a nice facility. Larger than many. Well lit and appointed. I think I saw about 6 or more massage studios, plus rooms for laundry equipment, TS, etc. The massage table was wider than some and firm (but comfortable enough) draped in clean good quality linens. A balance bar ran along the ceiling for back-walking.
This was my first visit to (ST). But since I had called ahead and scheduled an appointment, everyone was at ease. CANDY assumed I was an old friend who had been traveling.
She subsequently provided me a great NoVA experience (not like a usual "first visit"). CANDY is a tall spinner with the most attractive shape and proportions I have ever seen in an AMP. Soft black hair, pretty eyes. She could not have weighed more than 100 pounds and was about 5'6" tall. She is good to talk to. And is a good conversationalist when you want to talk and is quiet when all you want is to relax.
The TS room was very nice. A true SPA type room, elevated table. CANDY provided me a nice TS experience (not the best I've had, but nice and enjoyed all).
Back to the room. A wonderful NoVA massage experience. Attitude means so much to enjoying an hour of relaxation. CANDY gets 10++ for attitude. (and I certainly enjoyed the hour. And it was a full hour with no clock watching and no rush). Standard rate for the hour (0.8). And I felt cheap for leaving a standard tip (but she did not even look at it).
CANDY is sweet and I hope to repeat.
This is a place I will visit again. This is a place where I will continue to try to always be nice to the ladies
PA
Ben Porter
08-22-09, 14:16
I can't stop thinking about getting a massage at an AMP. I'm very curious and was just wondering if anyone knows anything about bodywork treatment in manassas. Also, I'm 19, maybe look alittle younger, will this affect me getting the good stuff? . I know they charge 50 for the half hour so I will bring a hefty tip.
Any help would be appreciated.I'm 19 as well, and getting in to the AMPs is a little tricky. Many of them dont allow anyone under 21 or sometimes 25 so you'll have to call ahead and find out. If the best you can find is 21+ then go and hope they dont ask for ID.
OneHitWonders
08-22-09, 16:30
This pair of reports appeared in the latest edition of the Vienna Connection (apparently a small newspaper concerned with local events in the Vienna and surrounding areas):
Crime Report
Wednesday, August 05, 2009
Activities reported by the Vienna police department through July 31.
Arrests
100 Block Maple Ave., East. July 30, 8:14 p.m. MPO Burchfield and Sergeant Juelharte were summoned for a fight in progress call at the Best Healing Therapy. After arriving, it was learned that a terminated employee in another case had falsely summoned police. A female of Valley Stream, New York was arrested for Falsely Summoning Police. She was then transported to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center and held on a $3000 bond.
Trespassing
Best Healing Therapy, 112 Maple Ave., East. July 30, 4 p.m. MPO Burchfield responded on a complaint from a business owner. The owner had fired an employee and the employee refused to leave the building. After MPO Burchfield’s arrival the fired employee complied and vacated the premises.
Whether the former employee had been fired for poor customer service or some other reason is unknown, but it seems as though the MMS who runs this establishment wants to keep things on an even keel. As for the employee who was fired, $3000 bond amounts to a lot of tips.
RR
Wow! Think about it...This must have been a nasty fight! I agree with the other posters opinions about the Mamasans role. Having a $3,000 bond sounds like a pretty serious charge. I am sure the mamasan felt she had no chioce but to call the police because of the fired employee's behavior.
Wow! Think about it. This must have been a nasty fight! $3, 000 bond sounds like a pretty serious charge.If I read the original post correctly, the arrest was for false reporting, not for fighting. $3, 000.00 bond equals about $300.00 bail. That isn't a penalty, it is a surety against the defendant not showing up for court. Don't show up and the bond is forfeited. If she used a bail/bondsman and doesn't show up, he will send his posse after her. I don't think she can backwalk her way out of that one!
The $3K bond is to make sure people don't call 911 for any ol' reason. Pretty good law to have when you are asking yourself "where is a cop when you need one." Hopefully, he isn't at the local AMP on a false call.
AD
Tried a spot upstairs that has been open for about two months and you can find on CL.
Went this last Saturday afternoon and place was too busy for comfort. Arrived and was tucked away in mamas office while she cleared out some traffic. Pretty young lady opened the door after another monger arrived to see if she could stash him there but I just smiled back and she took him elsewhere. Was hoping that she would return but another K girl assigned to take care of business.
After 20 min wait was guided back to TS for fairly good session. Back to room and short massage started with a lot of back walking to follow. Yuki seemed hurried, which I could understand, but on the flip she dropped her top to a pair of aftermarket Cs without my asking or roaming. Good stomach massage before final event.
Apologized for the rushed session. About 50 min but said if I wanted more to return Tues or Wed with gear ready and she would take care of me much better.
Not a bad first visit.
Looks 7, Massagee 5, Finish 8.
.8 house and.5 tip with promise of things to CUM!
Classy Mike
08-25-09, 17:31
Bird Dropping's report - accurate and valuable information.
Thanks
Saw Mindy at Kim's last night.
Good personality, attractive, good massage, as usual no problem at Kim's.
Tell her John sent you.
Does anyone have any info on Maryjane &/or Julie who advertise on Backpage? I don't need details and I'm not fishing for incriminating facts - I just want to ensure it's not a rip-off, like taking your minutes for just sitting there and talking, "how-dare-you-suggest-I-do-something-like-that" type of scenario.
Maryjane's latest ad: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy_pretty_fun_swfs_1_2_girl_bodyrubs_incall_outcall_27/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1933971
Julie's latest ad: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1940888
Do you see any other red flags going off? I couldn't find any TER reviews and i searched these forums under Virginia and didn't come up with anything.
Thanks all
Brdcsttech
08-26-09, 14:13
Bird Dropping's report - accurate and valuable information.
Thanks
I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message.
Today I went to NSP instead. Big mistake! Lee was the therapist. Too much talking, smelled of cigarettes, and engaged in an embarassing, blatant, upsell. After shower takes me to room and asks what I want. I say $ for everything. She says she charges $ for hand release and soft touch massage. Feels like everything. I said no. .4 for hand release. She kept trying to get me to agree to $. She finally left the room then I got up and got dressed. She seemed surprised when she returned and I was tying my shoes. Some fake acting and fake tears. I told her I did not appreciate her trying to ripp me off. I said she should learn the rates when she comes to a new place and not be so greedy. She said OK, OK, everything for $. Too late. Ruined the mood.
Mama refunded my house fee. Was very apologetic and said she would get a new girl soon. I have had great times there before with Judy, Anna, and another lady who's name escapes me at the moment.
I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message.
Today I went to NSP instead. Big mistake! Lee was the therapist. Too much talking, smelled of cigarettes, and engaged in an embarassing, blatant, upsell. After shower takes me to room and asks what I want. I say $ for everything. She says she charges $ for hand release and soft touch massage. Feels like everything. I said no. .4 for hand release. She kept trying to get me to agree to $. She finally left the room then I got up and got dressed. She seemed surprised when she returned and I was tying my shoes. Some fake acting and fake tears. I told her I did not appreciate her trying to ripp me off. I said she should learn the rates when she comes to a new place and not be so greedy. She said OK, OK, everything for $. Too late. Ruined the mood.
Mama refunded my house fee. Was very apologetic and said she would get a new girl soon. I have had great times there before with Judy, Anna, and another lady who's name escapes me at the moment.I may have benefitted from the mama's ire. I visited today at sunset, on a whim, not having seen the quoted report. Lee was on duty and as obliging as one could ask. Good TS, good massage, very liberal roaming, standard tip accepted with fawning thanks. Would repeat. Lordy, these places are variable in the extreme.
Black Coffee
08-26-09, 22:56
A reliable source tells me Far East is being gazed upon by a pair of big blue eyeballs. In this same county pedestrian deaths have nearly tripled since last year. Let's be careful out there. BC
Guys, I need a reccommendation on AMP in the area. I will be staying in Alexandria for the weekend and will need some relief. I'll only have time and funds for one or two visits. I'm not against seeing a condo girl if that is where the action and spinners are.
PM me if you want to keep it private.
thx
Stopped by on a first visit based on other reports. The mamasan lead me to the room and requested the 1hr.8 fare. I asked to see the girls and she said that two were busy and she would send in Candi her best girl. She is an attractive k-girl with a nice rack. Went to the TS which was ok the back to the room. Towel on the whole time during the massage which I am not fond. I did some roaming with no refuesal. Then, I told her I brought a cover, she held out her hand, took it and began to strip. Nice 34C-26-34 shape (confirmed). Afterwards, she demanded $.5 which was WAY out of line. We went back and forth for about 5 minuted haggeling. She was not going to budge and neither was I. I have been around and I do not pay $.5 uinless everything is exceptional and nothing in NOVA has been exceptional. Tops is $. At best she was a 6 and was a bit rushed. Return? Probably not. Don't care for the staff or neighborhood.
I have had good results with FE. If they truely believe you have been there before, the menu is great. Nice, new, clean appearance. However, this was several weeks ago. It looks like the good guys are camping out. Heads-up
My last visit was about 4-5 months ago so I decided to stop in after a long visit to SpaWorld. Only one person there about 40ish with an ok shape. Since I just had a shower, we decided to wait after the masaage. The massage was good about -9 and she even gave me a good foot scrub and lotion foot massage. After talking a bit, she remembered me and chatted a while. On the flip, she said how about a light pubic trim? OK, be careful with the boys. TS then she dropped her panties and began a good wash which I helped her with. DATY? not for me. But, I am sure it is on the menu. Then back to the room for a standard NOVA finish. Total about 1-1/2hr probably because no one was else was there in the afternoon. Damages .8/.75
Does anyone have any info on Maryjane &/or Julie who advertise on Backpage? I don't need details and I'm not fishing for incriminating facts - I just want to ensure it's not a rip-off, like taking your minutes for just sitting there and talking, "how-dare-you-suggest-I-do-something-like-that" type of scenario.
Maryjane's latest ad: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy_pretty_fun_swfs_1_2_girl_bodyrubs_incall_outcall_27/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1933971
Julie's latest ad: http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1940888
Do you see any other red flags going off? I couldn't find any TER reviews and i searched these forums under Virginia and didn't come up with anything.
Thanks allA couple of updates on this.
There is another variant of Maryjane's add that lists a girl named Augusta and yet another variant that lists "Maryjane" and "Julie" together. The photos on Backpage tie them all together.
So this morning I tried calling the 703 # several times over the course of an hour. Sweet sounding female voice on the recording. I never got through to someone live and I chose not to leave a vmail (and I appreciate the fact they didn't call me back off caller id).
I tried Julie's 202 # once, no answer.
So I called up Sapphire Entertainment (bluegems.com) and had a very nice time with new girl, Brook.
Jack Bones
08-28-09, 15:49
After sitting out for a while decided to give things another go.
Reports lead me to believe that Crown was new, clean & had a nice staff. Reports were right. Stand-up shower not what I'm used to, but it's new, clean & right next to a sauna. First visit w/Jae (this was about a mo ago. Not sure if she's still there). Very nice, good service, attention to detail on the massage. Second visit w/Bebe. While I've read some nice reviews on her, I wasn't so impressed. When she greeted me, she asked if I had called in. I hadn't, so I'm thinking she was expecting someone & she was by herself. Sure enough, the door rang 15 mins into my hour & she was back & forth a few times trying to make everyone happy. Overall, decent, but service could have been better. I'll giver her the BOD & assume she was distracted.
Most recently, checked out Kim's. I can see why this place is a regular for so many. Nice place. Mamasan greeted at door. Took me back collected 1 hr fee & promised "nice pretty girl". Mindy followed a few minutes afterwards. Great personality, good hard massage that included a walk on my back. Standard NoVa fare, no clock watching. Even during mid-day, got a full hour. Offered a bottle of H2O & out the door. She says she'll be in the area for a few months. I'd probably see again, but still checking things out. It's great to be back!
Roamin Roman
08-28-09, 18:13
I told her I brought a cover, she held out her hand, took it and began to strip. Nice 34C-26-34 shape (confirmed). Afterwards, she demanded $.5 which was WAY out of line. We went back and forth for about 5 minuted haggeling. She was not going to budge and neither was I. I have been around and I do not pay $.5 uinless everything is exceptional and nothing in NOVA has been exceptional. Tops is $. At best she was a 6 and was a bit rushed.Dude, I hate to say it, but she was probably more justified in demanding her price rather than you in sticking to yours. You don't sit down in a restaurant and finish a steak dinner without knowing the price up-front. Even if the steak weren't tender, you tacitly accepted their price when you ordered and began eating.
It's the same way with a gal at an AMP: You partook before knowing her price, so you were kinda obligated to pay her. (Granted, $.5 is high, but it's not out of range for FS. Now, if she demanded 1k$ or something like that, then you might have been justified in saying "No." But, as it stands, she deserved to be paid. You were at fault for not enquiring up-front as to her price. If you had done that, her price might have been a bit lower. But who knows?)
Just my two Liras' worth
RR
I remember my first trip to Green's and the young (about 28) asking for $$ for the sweet sugar walls. She claimed she was younger the most and therefore I was getting so much better.
Then I stuck to $ and she gave in. Some realize it is better to have something (fair) then nothing at all.
I have had other times were they did not come to my price and I offered to leave with nothing, she tried to complained when I did not tip for the massage and my response was as they always say in the AMP business "So sorry, maybe next time". Yes, if any give exceptional service she would be entitled to more. TIP is just that a thank you for going beyond the usual mechanical experience. Making someone feel welcome and not just a payment is exceptional service is not usually translate here.
My main concern is finding a cuie that even provides true service. I remember back in 2003, when I came to the area for my first interview. I picked from the phone book and arranged with what promised to be an FS deal. When she got to the hotel room and received the funs this is when she said she is an escort so where would I like her to escort me. At 2 am in NOVA not much to pay for. Of course, I called the service to complain but not much can be done; would anyone be willing to put up a fight in a public hotel.
You live, you learn.
This is why I stay with the AMP but they too have deteriorated in their services over the years. Going back to 2003/2004 many flavors available and the quality was usually nice. The scene has lagged since but appears to be picking up at time but you have to be ready to settle for old and wiser but this does not always translate into a more experienced massage…
Just an old man recollecting; thanks for your time.
Dude, I hate to say it, but she was probably more justified in demanding her price rather than you in sticking to yours. You don't sit down in a restaurant and finish a steak dinner without knowing the price up-front. Even if the steak weren't tender, you tacitly accepted their price when you ordered and began eating.
It's the same way with a gal at an AMP: You partook before knowing her price, so you were kinda obligated to pay her. (Granted, $.5 is high, but it's not out of range for FS. Now, if she demanded 1k$ or something like that, then you might have been justified in saying "No." But, as it stands, she deserved to be paid. You were at fault for not enquiring up-front as to her price. (If you had done that, her price might have been a bit lower. But who knows?)
Just my two Liras' worth
RR
At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.
I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.
It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.
i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.
The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).
You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.
No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.
The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.
In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)
My 2 cents, thank you
At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.
I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.
It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.
i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.
The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).
You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.
No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.
The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.
In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)
My 2 cents, thank you
No offense, Justforme, but your 2 cents is worth about, well, 2 cents.
To begin with, the women who work in the massage industry do so for a plethora of reasons. But the ones who are working off debt which they incurred to come to the U.S., almost without exception, did not incur that debt by getting a visa. They are, in fact, usually un-documented. In other words, they were trafficked.
Many of these women, however, are here legally and incurred debt either from a failed business or, most often, from gambling. Others are women who got here by marrying Americans (often service men) and those marriages failed. Regardless of how they incurred debt, the ones who begin their tour of the U.S. in NYC do not stay there until they have paid off their debt. And they are not constrained from working elsewhere until they have done so. It can take a woman (especially if she is un-documented) years to pay off the debt which she owes to the snakeheads who smuggled her in.
There is simply not enough opportunity for them do so in NYC. What you don't understand is that the security which they have pledged to guarantee their loans is not their physical being. They are not even, strictly speaking, required to work in the sex industry. If they could pay off their debts by working as waitresses, they are free to do so and they could do so in any city of their choosing. What secures their debt until they are able to clear it is the family which they have left behind.
You are correct that for many of them (often the illegals), their first port of call is New York City (often Flushing/Queens). But you are incorrect that they stay there until they are used up. They are there for other reasons than what you seem to be suggesting. The reasons for their being in New York is that they have a greater support structure there. They often stay there just long enough to get somewhat acclimated to life in the U.S., learn a bit of English, and then be processed "through the system". This means finding an AMP or spa in another state which will give them a job.
And finally, you are wrong about the reason that AMP girls in places like D.C. are increasingly older. It is not because, as you suggest, that they come here after they are too old to work in the greater N.Y.C. area. It is simply because of changing demographic, social, and economic conditions in their countries of origin (mostly the Republic Of Korea and the Yanbian area of the People's Republic of China). As you may or may not be aware, South Korea and the PRC, are in the midst of an economic boom period. The societies of South Korea and China are also increasingly less male dominated than they once were. Therefore young, attractive women have economic opportunities which do not involve illegally entering the U.S. and working in the sex industry.
I don't know about everyone else, but for me, I'm sick of the dis-information and mis-information which you seem to love to post. However, I wish that if you must continue to post, you could bring yourself to try just a little harder to express yourself using correct grammar and spelling. And finally, an "oriental" is a carpet, not a person. The correct term is "Asian."
LexLuther
Phaik Naim
08-29-09, 12:38
Once again found myself by Panera in Falls Church this morning. So I went to the 2nd floor, and again saw Kelly for a half hour. Large (but somewhat saggy) rack, nice lower half. She is in shape.
I will tell you that the place gets very little traffic in the mornings. Kelly told me it was unusual to get anyone before noon, and usually less than 4 before 5pm.
I did not see MMS today, which was a shame. I hope some day she is the provider - knockout body.
This is a no TS place, so the massage began right away. Again, it was lackluster. At the flip, thee was a little front massage and then I was presented with a menu more expansive than at most NOVA places. I went middle of the road on my selection, which I thought was a deal for $.5. Usually a $.6-$.8 service in DC. While it was, again, somewhat mechanical, it was pleasant. Upstairs roaming was allowed inside, downstairs outside was permitted - didn't try to get inside. This time.
At some point I am going to order the most expensive thing on the menu, being $1. I think it could be fun, seeing as how in-shape she is.
I haven't seen much of other providers there, and I've only ever had Kelly as my provider, so I can't vouch for the rest of the staff.
But if you've got The Fever and some time to kill on a weekend morning, I would recommend. Very good value for the money.
Classy Mike
08-29-09, 13:00
I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message. I always appreciate when the ladies do not stop what they are doing to answer the phone.
Sorry if you have not had good luck. It might be worth you time to try again; if you are interested, or try elsewhere.
There is a new place called Massage Therapy that opened last week in the Sterling area. Near Dranesville Rd and rte 7, its located in a small, ethnic strip mall behind Popeyes. It is discreetly tucked in the corner, the last shop.
I've been there twice and have been told there isn't much business so far. I'm not surprised, its pretty hidden.
Both times I've been there Mimi greeted me. Older, but extremely pleasant, she uses her elbows and knees and gives a very good massage.
Being a new place, they re very careful about draping but standard NOVA practices and prices apply. Extensive roaming is allowed. Thjis is a very nice place and doesn't get packed as Green or King (so far). They want the business so grand opening price for an hour is.7. The main drawback is there is only a standing shower because they are afraid of attracting unwanted attention.
They advertise in CL with the address you can google and phone #.
First off, this report is late. My 1st report was with a lady named Sony. This report is with the same lady a week afterwards, so, I have no idea who is there now.
I went NSP again and found that the MMS had remembered me. That is always a great feeliing. Anyways, Sony was still there and I did as she asked, which was come in the morning time. Got to the room and the fun instantly began. She stripped me down and brought me to the TS. Lots of roaming, and giggling. We wasted no time and went back to the room for our fun again. $.8 for the experiance. I have to say, it is my new fav spot. I read some reviews about this place and it seems 50/50. I guess I have been lucky. Those who PM'd me before, I hope it worked for you. The treatment was the same if not better-a couple more things on the menu-(always hope for better on a return visit-right? ) If you want the details, you know what to do.
If you have any intel on other fun spots, please PM me. Not that I want to change my spot, it; s just that it is a little out of my ways and I would like to just have options. Somewhere along the 95 corrider!
The conversation has gotten pretty off-track. My only point was that money talks and if you don't believe that to be true than look at the trends:
Fact- you can't name even 3 therapists under 30 at the AMPs/AAMPs in this area (excluding those here for a month or less). Hell, most of you couldn't even name 1 or 2.
Fact- when a therapist realizes she is being cheaped out she moves or she goes to Eros.
Don't sit here and argue that you're some expert about NYC when these forums clearly illustrate that NYC standard AMP rates for younger and good looking providers are 180-220. That's what hobbyists on these forums and I have paid and that is what it costs to maintain at least a semblance of what things were like back between 1998-2002 when things weren't so miserable. The same rates apply to good locations in Phoenix, San Fran, L.A., San Diego, Miami, San Jose, Seattle or several other major hubs and that's why you can still find young therapists there. I've never been one to mince words, even if it makes me a pariah among some seniors. I know I am right so please don't argue with me.***
If you come across a therapist and she is cute (a 7.5 or well above average across most posters rating scales) and/or is under age 30 (and looks it very clearly) and you are paying the flat rate of $.6 then you are asking her to leave and may as well buy her the ticket out of town.
There is a difference between "paying for less" and "paying less leading to less." The latter is what has happened in D.C./Maryland and Virginia. Prove me wrong, though. Show me where the D.C. flat rate advocated on these forums has made the scene better in any way. I'll be waiting with bated breath.
*** Rates for younger therapists in NYC
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=853536&postcount=884
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844255&postcount=876
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844072&postcount=874
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=822241&postcount=854
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690012&postcount=42
On the West Coast, if you want a R&T from a younger therapist you will be charged at minimum 120 and at most 175. Think Kacy from NoVA who now advertises on Eros (surprise surprise).
You're absolutely right the younger girls there going where the money is. If you're an owner do you want a girl 41-45 who looks 30 or do you want a 29-year-old who looks 19 or 20. The owner wants the same thing as the customer this just raises the income. There going where the money is!
Seva Lurker
08-29-09, 19:56
Well for the first time in a couple of years, I have reason to spend some time in the NOVA area next weekend. When I routinely visited on work, I kept track of the AMP situation. My favorite being Sakura.
So trying to read through the forum for a year or so is rough. :(
So my question. Which AMP is offering the best service and what are the going rates? Looks like .6 to .8 for the door fee and $ for extras. The $ got FS at Sakura, but like I said it's been a while.
Answer either on the board or PM.
Thanks guys.
LatinaLover77
08-29-09, 20:17
Well for the first time in a couple of years, I have reason to spend some time in the NOVA area next weekend. When I routinely visited on work, I kept track of the AMP situation. My favorite being Sakura.
So trying to read through the forum for a year or so is rough. :(
So my question. Which AMP is offering the best service and what are the going rates? Looks like .6 to .8 for the door fee and $ for extras. The $ got FS at Sakura, but like I said it's been a while.
Answer either on the board or PM.
Thanks guys.
Stay away from Sakura. Since their bust awhile ago it's been in the PD's spotlight since opening back up. Along with Lily's in Manassas/Centreville. Most AMP's in PWC are strictly HJ spots now and wont dare doing FS. PWC posts your full name and sometimes pictures if you get caught. Stay in Fairfax or more north (Alexandria)
but I do have experiences.
The conversation has gotten pretty off-track. My only point was that money talks and if you don't believe that to be true than look at the trends:
Fact- you can't name even 3 therapists under 30 at the AMPs/AAMPs in this area (excluding those here for a month or less). Hell, most of you couldn't even name 1 or 2.
Fact- when a therapist realizes she is being cheaped out she moves or she goes to Eros.
Don't sit here and argue that you're some expert about NYC when these forums clearly illustrate that NYC standard AMP rates for younger and good looking providers are 180-220. That's what hobbyists on these forums and I have paid and that is what it costs to maintain at least a semblance of what things were like back between 1998-2002 when things weren't so miserable. The same rates apply to good locations in Phoenix, San Fran, L.A., San Diego, Miami, San Jose, Seattle or several other major hubs and that's why you can still find young therapists there. I've never been one to mince words, even if it makes me a pariah among some seniors. I know I am right so please don't argue with me.***
If you come across a therapist and she is cute (a 7.5 or well above average across most posters rating scales) and/or is under age 30 (and looks it very clearly) and you are paying the flat rate of $.6 then you are asking her to leave and may as well buy her the ticket out of town.
There is a difference between "paying for less" and "paying less leading to less." The latter is what has happened in D.C./Maryland and Virginia. Prove me wrong, though. Show me where the D.C. flat rate advocated on these forums has made the scene better in any way. I'll be waiting with bated breath.
*** Rates for younger therapists in NYC
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=853536&postcount=884
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844255&postcount=876
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844072&postcount=874
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=822241&postcount=854
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690012&postcount=42
On the West Coast, if you want a R&T from a younger therapist you will be charged at minimum 120 and at most 175. Think Kacy from NoVA who now advertises on Eros (surprise surprise).
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/s...12&postcount=42
Do you think you can get this one (Panamanian not asian to come up here). If she was a gymnast she would be a gold medelist with all those 9/9.5s across the board.
Now you are just looking to argue after all you are compariing apples to oranges. See if you can look into a AMP an compare what they have to the AMPs here.
I have not been to one there for a while so I do not know the changes that have been made.
I do not know which scientific study your facts are based on but I will take your word for it but in the interest of science you should make a fact finding trip to NY, Queens that is, buy the Queens or Long Island edition of the Newsday, look in the classifieds and start calling around. When you return you will have a more complete scientific survey to base your "Facts upon".
While you are there try to ascertain as to their legal status in the US and how much they paid or owe for the journey to the US. Impoverished as many of them might have been it would have been difficult for many to get a visa without the assistance of an agency.
As for me and my New York days they might very well be behind me but when and if I get back to NY I will bring back a copy of the Village Voice. Being that I have not been back to the City of NY in about three years I do not have any updated information, I am just speaking from experience!
I do know from being down here for three years if you ask most of the girls/ladies where they have worked most will say they started out in Flushing (Queen, NY). Ask you will see. Keep a running tally; I have yet to meet that did not (including the one I met this evening). Include this in your future surveys to "facts"
The conversation has gotten pretty off-track. My only point was that money talks and if you don't believe that to be true than look at the trends:
Fact- you can't name even 3 therapists under 30 at the AMPs/AAMPs in this area (excluding those here for a month or less). Hell, most of you couldn't even name 1 or 2.
Fact- when a therapist realizes she is being cheaped out she moves or she goes to Eros.
Don't sit here and argue that you're some expert about NYC when these forums clearly illustrate that NYC standard AMP rates for younger and good looking providers are 180-220. That's what hobbyists on these forums and I have paid and that is what it costs to maintain at least a semblance of what things were like back between 1998-2002 when things weren't so miserable. The same rates apply to good locations in Phoenix, San Fran, L.A., San Diego, Miami, San Jose, Seattle or several other major hubs and that's why you can still find young therapists there. I've never been one to mince words, even if it makes me a pariah among some seniors. I know I am right so please don't argue with me.***
If you come across a therapist and she is cute (a 7.5 or well above average across most posters rating scales) and/or is under age 30 (and looks it very clearly) and you are paying the flat rate of $.6 then you are asking her to leave and may as well buy her the ticket out of town.
There is a difference between "paying for less" and "paying less leading to less." The latter is what has happened in D.C./Maryland and Virginia. Prove me wrong, though. Show me where the D.C. flat rate advocated on these forums has made the scene better in any way. I'll be waiting with bated breath.
*** Rates for younger therapists in NYC
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=853536&postcount=884
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844255&postcount=876
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844072&postcount=874
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=822241&postcount=854
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690012&postcount=42
On the West Coast, if you want a R&T from a younger therapist you will be charged at minimum 120 and at most 175. Think Kacy from NoVA who now advertises on Eros (surprise surprise).
Looks are better then a 5 and the attitude should be a 10.
I saw her this evening and was very happy. Though she is not a spring chicken she did not try to deceive by lying about her age. At first she did not say but later came through. I do not know if it was because she was honest about it but I thought she looked you for her admitted age.
She is a great therapist and actually runs a legitimate business. She is friendly and pleasant. SHe is a good conversationalist who does not worry about the payment until everything is done. She did not once ask me for the money and I just let her $$ in from of the ORIENTAL art.
She did a very nice BBBJ (though I did not CIM) and when it came time for the sugar walls she offered to put a cover on for me. I asked her if this was necessary and being that she thought "I looked clean" she was willing to allow me to enjoy organic.
I did not try the DATY but might have been temped on another day now that I know how sweet she is.
The office is a normal acupressure spot and she tried to as discrete as possible.
I give it to Bird Dropping on this one. Though he mentioned a lot of truths I think what he might have forgot to mention was that he did all that over a period of time.
She claimed to be getting a new "therapist" this week but could not verify if she would do the same services but she said that one is about 26 but did not know any more about her.
Worth the trip and time and will repeat in a few weeks.
Thanks
Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for details
Henryecua07
08-30-09, 01:27
I went to magical touch two days ago to try out the new girl. If you didn't know magical touch has been posting lately on craigs list about this new girl that works there now. So as soon as I get there I am greeted by the mamasan and I get escorted into room A. About 2pm on a sunny afternoon, very hot. As soon as I am in the room I ask the mamasan if the new girl is available and she tells me that yes she is. So I pay what I have to pay and next thing you know the new girl walks in the room after I stripped down. Outta 1-10 she is like a 7 maybe 8. Nice rack. Decent booty. Decent face. Asked if I wanted the TS and I said of course. Tried to conversate with the new girl during the TS but she seemed mad. Like I was just another guy trying to get a nut off. She asked how old I was and then I asked her and she told me she couldn't tell me. Basically she was being a smartass/ being rude to the customer but I didn't mind at the time. After the TS I was escorted back into room A. I guess she went and grabbed a condom and came back in. Once she came back in she only took her thong off and pulled down her tanktop. She basically still had her tank onn and her skirt on which I didn't like. I like my girls nude and I asked her but she didn't wanna take the rest off. So I sat on the bed and received a decent facejob. Soon as I got my man hard she insisted on putting it in. Me of course made my move. Honestly her thing was pretty tite compared to other girls that work in AMPs. After about 30 secs she moaned COME ON BABY CUM CUM CUM! I go for awhile so I ignored her. After two more minutes she told me to stop. When I pulled out she looked at me and then her eyes rolled behind her head like she was about to pass out. Maybe I nailed her pretty good idk but I got kinda scared. Next thing you know she asked me to lay down and finished me off with a handjob. Pretty disappointed with her finish but it is what it is. Too much hype about this new girl. Would not recommmend to anyone. I wish I coulda just stuck with the mamasan but w/e. I hope you guys don't make the same mistake.
Randomvaguy25
08-30-09, 08:41
(ST) is in a good NoVA location (at least for me). It is marked with a standard entrance which provides some discretion (at least during the day when there are many reasons to be in that area) with plenty of parking.
I called ahead for an appointment with CANDY (MMS appreciates that. MMS also appreciates a happy customer that shows respect to her position and the ladies in her establishment).
(ST) is a nice facility. Larger than many. Well lit and appointed. I think I saw about 6 or more massage studios, plus rooms for laundry equipment, TS, etc. The massage table was wider than some and firm (but comfortable enough) draped in clean good quality linens. A balance bar ran along the ceiling for back-walking.
PATried ST out on a trip up to Nova yesterday afternoon - decent TS, great massage (needed the back-walking), excellent finish. Ladies seems a bit paranoid at first, but it was fine. And afterward, you're right by Whole Foods. Good deal.
Had to say my good byes to Genie on Thursday. She was back from LA last month but made permanent move to west coast. Has been AFT for some time.
Mike's will never be the same. Angie said new girls coming and wants me to cum back and try.
Always a pleasant experience at Mr. Os.
Was out on the Bay a week ago and was hoping the fishing would have improved over last trip.
Was hoping for a different fishing partner but Angel showed up again and didn't offer any different techniques than before. I used the same bait but only the small ones were hitting.
Hoping that someone might know of other better qualified partners that I could schedule ahead.
All PMs greatly appreciated.
Need a big "FISH ON"!
but Mr. Labeau
Regular Member
Reports: 0 This sounds nice
In regards to your PM I cannot yet respond to your email. I do not subcribe to the unfriendly assistance that I see on this board so very often but obviously this lady has flown very low under the radar that I do not want to cause her any new static.
Remember she is not that type of provide but once the service end what two consenting adults agree upon .... Yada yada ....
I know established member do not like to give a Mr. 0 posts answers but I did not want to be rude by not responding. I asked my Daddy what I should do and if he gives me the A OK I will PM you with the information.
If not you can ask Mr. Bird Dropping and see if he is willing. She is his find!
I was in the Vienna area a few days ago so I thought I would give this place a try. The location is hard to find (read: DISCREET) with plenty of free parking off street in the rear. The facility is very clean and well appointed and looks brand new. Mamasan met me at the door, took me to a room and collected the fee ($80 for an hour). After I undressed Coco came in. (I think there mus be a Coco in every AMP! This one was definitely Asian, but the darkest complected Asian I have ever seen.) She helped me into a nice terry robe and took me to the shower room. The TS was long and thorough and everything was cleaned well. She dried me off and took me back to the massage room and gave me one of the longest, most thorough massages I've had in a long time. Then she asked me what I wanted to do and I said "Everything" so she asked for the money and I gave her $. She asked for 20 more but I told her that was all I had. She said, "OK, next time." She then gave me "everything" with great gusto; it was certainly worth the extra money. As I left she gave me a bottle of water and some very nice hugs and kisses. I'll certainly go back the next time I'm in the area. That place is First Class!
Has anyone been to aroma recently?
I am planning to go there and I thought of taking your experience or advice.
Much appreciate your response.
OneHitWonders
08-30-09, 14:57
I was in the Vienna area a few days ago so I thought I would give this place a try. The location is hard to find (read: DISCREET) with plenty of free parking off street in the rear. The facility is very clean and well appointed and looks brand new. Mamasan met me at the door, took me to a room and collected the fee ($80 for an hour). After I undressed Coco came in. (I think there mus be a Coco in every AMP! This one was definitely Asian, but the darkest complected Asian I have ever seen.) She helped me into a nice terry robe and took me to the shower room. The TS was long and thorough and everything was cleaned well. She dried me off and took me back to the massage room and gave me one of the longest, most thorough massages I've had in a long time. Then she asked me what I wanted to do and I said "Everything" so she asked for the money and I gave her $. She asked for 20 more but I told her that was all I had. She said, "OK, next time." She then gave me "everything" with great gusto; it was certainly worth the extra money. As I left she gave me a bottle of water and some very nice hugs and kisses. I'll certainly go back the next time I'm in the area. That place is First Class!Thanks for the update. Sounds like this place has significantly improved since my last visit there. Looking forward to returning and meeting another Coco.
Pilot Aviator
08-30-09, 18:30
Sunday afternoon.- I had an extra hour before work, and decided a trip to see my ATF at K***s was in order. The last visit with Sue was a birthday treat, so I had hopes. Angie greeted and escorted. And then told me Sue was away today. <sigh
Since all the ladies have been nice to me there, I was not too disappointed. And once Mindy arrived, I was not dissappointed at all.
Mindy is georgeous. As pretty a lady as one could ask to see. I am certain she would satisfy even the most discriminating definition of spinner.
Georgeous face, 5'4. Maybe 100 pounds. Slender. Beautiful hair.-- and a 10+ attitude.
Wonderful TS. Really superb with lomi-lomi massage.
Very nice theraputic massage that really helped my sore back and knee.
Very pleasant finish (but standard in all respects for NoVA).
Sunday afternoon.- and no rush (was quiet when I arrived, but the bell rang at least 3 times during my hour). Full hour. Great massage.- another nice time at my favorite place.
Standard rates for the hour and tip
Be nice to the ladies
PA
Thanks for report was going on Tuesday for new girl but will avoid. I will report back on the other girls they have there.
I went to magical touch two days ago to try out the new girl. If you didn't know magical touch has been posting lately on craigs list about this new girl that works there now. So as soon as I get there I am greeted by the mamasan and I get escorted into room A. About 2pm on a sunny afternoon, very hot. As soon as I am in the room I ask the mamasan if the new girl is available and she tells me that yes she is. So I pay what I have to pay and next thing you know the new girl walks in the room after I stripped down. Outta 1-10 she is like a 7 maybe 8. Nice rack. Decent booty. Decent face. Asked if I wanted the TS and I said of course. Tried to conversate with the new girl during the TS but she seemed mad. Like I was just another guy trying to get a nut off. She asked how old I was and then I asked her and she told me she couldn't tell me. Basically she was being a smartass/ being rude to the customer but I didn't mind at the time. After the TS I was escorted back into room A. I guess she went and grabbed a condom and came back in. Once she came back in she only took her thong off and pulled down her tanktop. She basically still had her tank onn and her skirt on which I didn't like. I like my girls nude and I asked her but she didn't wanna take the rest off. So I sat on the bed and received a decent facejob. Soon as I got my man hard she insisted on putting it in. Me of course made my move. Honestly her thing was pretty tite compared to other girls that work in AMPs. After about 30 secs she moaned COME ON BABY CUM CUM CUM! I go for awhile so I ignored her. After two more minutes she told me to stop. When I pulled out she looked at me and then her eyes rolled behind her head like she was about to pass out. Maybe I nailed her pretty good idk but I got kinda scared. Next thing you know she asked me to lay down and finished me off with a handjob. Pretty disappointed with her finish but it is what it is. Too much hype about this new girl. Would not recommmend to anyone. I wish I coulda just stuck with the mamasan but w/e. I hope you guys don't make the same mistake.
Skyn Deep69
08-30-09, 21:34
... when it came time for the sugar walls she offered to put a cover on for me. I asked her if this was necessary and being that she thought "I looked clean" she was willing to allow me to enjoy organic.Be sure to tell me where this is, so I can avoid it like the plague.
If Jackson will excuse the momentary lapse, OMFG. I'm ruined! You can't have her, she's all mine, mine, mine (though I'm willing to share with her girlfriend). Excellent conversation, we hit it off even before the TS (which was one of the all time best). Though the other therapists have been well rated, this girl is likely to be very popular, if you treat her right. Made me feel like royalty, a truly beautiful person, inside and all over. And did I say she was DDG?
Scale? There is no scale adequate. But here goes, 12+/9/9/99! No not a typo. I'm in trouble. Sorry fellas, only the most trusted seniors (with a promise to treat her well) can PM.
OMFG! And if you're reading this, komowayo for the korean lessons. I hope to practice again real soon.
Member #3960
08-30-09, 22:53
Wanted to see Jenni, but it was late tonight (about 9) and they were closed. However the mamasan let me in anyway and set me up with suzie. Had the standard table show, my first. Very nice. Water was warm and is definitely an interesting experience. Went back into the room, only had $60, so only HJ was on the table. Still it was nice, she seemed to know that I hadn't been there before and only told me the special secret of getting the full 9 yards after our session.
Regarding the massage I was a bit dispointed, barely any work done at all. Whether this was because they wanted me out or not, I can't say. I had a better massage at OTC the other day, which even included back walking. So compared to this one, it was rather disappointing.
Overall
Girl: 9
Massage: 4
TS: 7
Expense 120
Repeat. Maybe.
I found myself out in Herndon for work last week, and had an itch. Since the only access I had to this site was via internet on my phone, it was a little hard to navigate. I did what I could though.
Had trouble finding a place I wanted in Chantilly, so I ended up at King instead. It was. . . odd. I wish I could have read the forum better, because I see another monger had a very similar experience to mine.
Had to wait a while in the room after mamasan took the house fee (.8? WTF?), and eventually she came back to shower me. I didn't think it'd be a busy time, but so it goes. She did give a decent shower, for what it's worth. From there, the thing with the hot towels, mamasan comes back with more hot towels, and then finally in walks Yuki.
She was worth waiting for. Cute little K-girl with nice enhancements on top. Massagi was good, although a little too rough at times (that little girl has some strong hands!). The thing that made me nervous, moreso than the mamasan shower bit, is that she massaged through a towel the whole time. I've never had this before at all, and it felt like it wrecked the mood a bit. On the flip, she gave a good front massage (more worry), although the touching of actual skin did happen then.
Then the good part was finally offered. She had to take off for a minute to get a cold towel, since apparently the AC was broken in that room. I didn't notice, but she was clearly overheating, no worries there. She had me towel her back off, and well, it ended up being a good excuse for her to drop her shirt. As stated elsewhere, bolt-on C's. I'm not much for fake usually, but my compliments to the doctor on this one. Finish was quite nice and she encouraged roaming. She also hadn't watched the clock, which worked well for me, given how long I had to wait before.
Overall, I'd repeat again in the off chance I'm in the area, but NoVA really does lie inbetween my choices in MoCo (hahahahahahaha) and the great land of DC. No news there.
I found myself out in Herndon for work last week, and had an itch. Since the only access I had to this site was via internet on my phone, it was a little hard to navigate. I did what I could though.
Had trouble finding a place I wanted in Chantilly, so I ended up at King instead. It was. . . odd. I wish I could have read the forum better, because I see another monger had a very similar experience to mine.
Had to wait a while in the room after mamasan took the house fee (.8? WTF?), and eventually she came back to shower me. I didn't think it'd be a busy time, but so it goes. She did give a decent shower, for what it's worth. From there, the thing with the hot towels, mamasan comes back with more hot towels, and then finally in walks Yuki.
She was worth waiting for. Cute little K-girl with nice enhancements on top. Massagi was good, although a little too rough at times (that little girl has some strong hands!). The thing that made me nervous, moreso than the mamasan shower bit, is that she massaged through a towel the whole time. I've never had this before at all, and it felt like it wrecked the mood a bit. On the flip, she gave a good front massage (more worry), although the touching of actual skin did happen then.
Then the good part was finally offered. She had to take off for a minute to get a cold towel, since apparently the AC was broken in that room. I didn't notice, but she was clearly overheating, no worries there. She had me towel her back off, and well, it ended up being a good excuse for her to drop her shirt. As stated elsewhere, bolt-on C's. I'm not much for fake usually, but my compliments to the doctor on this one. Finish was quite nice and she encouraged roaming. She also hadn't watched the clock, which worked well for me, given how long I had to wait before.
Overall, I'd repeat again in the off chance I'm in the area, but NoVA really does lie inbetween my choices in MoCo (hahahahahahaha) and the great land of DC. No news there.I like this place since its so close to where I live. The only problem I've encountered is the wait time. if you have time to kill,its a nice place
I found myself out in Herndon for work last week, and had an itch. Since the only access I had to this site was via internet on my phone, it was a little hard to navigate. I did what I could though.
Had trouble finding a place I wanted in Chantilly, so I ended up at King instead. It was. . . odd. I wish I could have read the forum better, because I see another monger had a very similar experience to mine.
Had to wait a while in the room after mamasan took the house fee (.8? WTF?), and eventually she came back to shower me. I didn't think it'd be a busy time, but so it goes. She did give a decent shower, for what it's worth. From there, the thing with the hot towels, mamasan comes back with more hot towels, and then finally in walks Yuki.
She was worth waiting for. Cute little K-girl with nice enhancements on top. Massagi was good, although a little too rough at times (that little girl has some strong hands!). The thing that made me nervous, moreso than the mamasan shower bit, is that she massaged through a towel the whole time. I've never had this before at all, and it felt like it wrecked the mood a bit. On the flip, she gave a good front massage (more worry), although the touching of actual skin did happen then.
Then the good part was finally offered. She had to take off for a minute to get a cold towel, since apparently the AC was broken in that room. I didn't notice, but she was clearly overheating, no worries there. She had me towel her back off, and well, it ended up being a good excuse for her to drop her shirt. As stated elsewhere, bolt-on C's. I'm not much for fake usually, but my compliments to the doctor on this one. Finish was quite nice and she encouraged roaming. She also hadn't watched the clock, which worked well for me, given how long I had to wait before.
Overall, I'd repeat again in the off chance I'm in the area, but NoVA really does lie inbetween my choices in MoCo (hahahahahahaha) and the great land of DC. No news there.Next trip ask for Penny. She's the youngest,best built,sweetest girl I've seen in years. Just amazing
Tried this spot today for the first time. Nice facility which looks almost professional. Told mama that I had been there before with Coco and she asked which one. "the tall one or the short one". Of course I said the tall one because I'm six feet 5 in. Myself and she said ok. Coco is out today but BB is available.
Mama came back and said she would be doing the TS. GREAT I thought to myself. She was not what I was looking for for the first visit but WTF. She did a decent TS but on the flip made some surprising comments on the size of my johnson. She used both hands and washed everything up real good and then BB came in and made similar comments. There I was buck naked with two ladies I had never met commenting on my size while I shriveled up.
Back to the room and BB kneeled down to towel my legs off and suddenly grabbed me and said "too big.- you like horse". I was really getting self conscious by now but johnson was apparently getting excited and BB was getting into it.
Long story short but standard finish resulted. Two fisted finish that she really worked on.
Not the first time I've had these comments that really take the edge off the experience.
Pete Dagon
09-01-09, 11:25
Got an amazing HJ from a cute little Thai spinner. Advertises on the City Paper, located on Van Dorn. Stuck her finger up my ass and it felt so good.
.8 for 30 minutes
$.20 for 1 hour
$$ for FS
New addition to the staff!
PMs welcome
MnV
Tried Ruby today for the first time.
She is quite attractive, plump but not fat, and nice Cs - not sure if enhanced or not.
Called ahead for the best recommendation from Angie and was not impressed.
Good TS but a very lack luster massage - very little roaming encouraged and very mechanical finish, all of which I shared with mamasan.
Would not repeat with her but Angie said other girl coming soon.
Standard fares.
Roamin Roman
09-02-09, 00:32
Women at these locations are, foremost, actors. They play a role, and that role for Asian therapists is the Geisha - the submissive or willing Asian 'Oriental.' The fact that they play along to earn some money doesn't make it anymore appropriate. But please, let us hear more of your super opinions on "the homo'seksuals" and "the blacks" and "the liberals" that we've all come to love.According to any reputable dictionary, the term "Orient" derives from the Latin "oriens" meaning "east" (literally, "rising"), referring to the direction where the sun rises. Hence, Japan is "The Land of the Rising Sun."
The opposite term "Occident" derives from the Latin "occidens" meaning "west" (literally, "setting"), referring to the direction where the sun sets.
(Interestingly, many PC-Americans get highly offended when they hear a non-"Asian" use the term "Oriental." Yet these same people will practically yawn when someone uses the term "Westerner." The reason it's funny is because the two terms are analogous. When you say someone is a "Westerner," you are saying they are an "Occidental." Likewise, when you say that someone is an "Oriental," you are calling them an "Easterner.")
While we're at it, there are two other analogous terms here: Boreal (meaning "Northern") and Austral (meaning "Southern"). All four of these terms have long traditions in navigation and astronomy, and you will find references such as "the boreal peoples" (meaning those in the northern climes, generally Scandinavia). Where do you think the name for the continent Australia came from?
If someone wants to get offended because I use the term "Oriental," and they choose not to interpret it in context, well that's their problem. (I'm not being "racist" for using the term, regardless of what accusations they wish to sling about.) Also, if someone tells me that a particular individual is an "Asian," I'll probably ask if that individual is Jewish, Afghan, Mongolian, Indian, or Iraqi. All of those are Asians, too.
So get all huffy and puffy, if you wish. I'll just say: "Blow it out your Sphincterus Australis."
Roamin Roman
09-02-09, 01:22
Just FYI, gentlemen (and others):
I stopped by 112 this evening, and there was a handwritten sign on yellow legal paper taped to the door. The sign stated that the place was closed and would re-open on 4 September. So, if you were planning on stopping by to see what all the fuss was about, save your gasoline and time for the next couple of days.
R::R
P.S. _ I'll provide any updates if I'm able to swing by the place, between now and the 4th.
Thanks for the tip. Not sure when I'll be back out that way, but definitely good intel. And yeah, the wait was a pain, but good to know it's not just me.
Next trip ask for Penny. She's the youngest,best built,sweetest girl I've seen in years. Just amazing
Pete Dagon
09-02-09, 10:42
Has anyone visited Crown Therapy? I wanted to take one for the team, but when I drove by last night, I noticed a heavy LE presence nearby.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1353523598.html
Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for detailsA nice gem now also confirmed by me.
Thanks B.D.
On my personal scale, I put the looks at 7.5 and agree with all of the other numbers. One of my better experiences in the last year.
Went there for first time yesterday morning in woodbridge. Went in morning only think there was one other monger and he was with new girl. My girl was Lee. She was older (mid thirties) but had body of 20 year old nice smooth legs nice up top and was wearing short skirt.
TS 8/10
looks 7/10
personable 9/10
massage 8/10
Good massage and TS spent alot of time on my legs and on flip standard nova finish. PM for more details and would go back again.
Andrewsted
09-02-09, 17:33
Went Sunday night around 9:30 pm. Saw Kindee again, same result (good massage with sensual, sensual, sensual finish). Although, she walked on my back and it kinda hurt! Damn! But, it did not hurt the next day so no harm no foul. Would love to see Candi or Sonny for the extras but did not draw either Sun night. 2 mongers came in after me while I was there, kinda busy that night I guess.
Pilot Aviator
09-02-09, 18:39
. The birthday celebration is not so Happy.
I really wanted to see Candy again.- and my last visit to the Downy SPA in Springfield was so sweet.
I even brought presents to celebrate Candy's birthday (which was last week). Special chocolates for MMS and a special small box and gift for the birthday girl.
From the get-go, I could tell this visit was not working out as fun as the last. The TS was lackluster (but the conversation was light).
The massage (for what it was) was perfunctory.- Candy previously demonstrated a few outstanding techniques (best ever) but this time. Nada.
. And then she hit me with the "last time you were here, you were very stingy with tip.". She continued to describe with some accuracy the massage of that visit.--
I explained that visit was my first.- I did not ask for (and did not expect) her massage presentation to be so superior.- and all that I had brought with me was the standard funds for an hour + standard tip, but that this time I had brought additional funds because I wanted to be more generous.
The visit continued.- most pleasures from the previous visit repeated. But, too much drama for me.-- afternoon was spoiled.
I am always nice to the ladies.- I was more than recommended generous for this visit (I had intended to make amends). But the discussion beforehand changed the idea of gratitude to "fee".- and that killed the "fun" of the visit.
A tip/gratuity discussion with the therapist always spells doom for me, and also usually terminates future visits. I'm not sure I'll return.- I have other places that I really like.
Be nice.- but if you want to see Candy and make her happy, better be prepared with 2xstandard for NoVA pleasures.
PA
PS.- and for those that want to castigate me.-- consider this. I think a gratuity discussion is appropriate for the MMS to have with the client.- I think it is a management function.
Years ago when mongering was brand new to me, and before I knew of this forum I had started visiting a local AMP regularly. I did not know how the funds between the house and therapist were distributed.- but I did think a 25% tip on top of the house fee was "generous." After about my 4th or 5th visit the MMS spoke with me and basically explained how the ladies work for their tips, and if I enjoyed the visit, I really needed to be more generous (that I was significantly under-tipping). I thought she handled this well (and by MMS talking with me, the therapist is never providing the client a negative input).
Then I found this forum.- and found out MMS was right.
So.- for all those seniors who help inform us when we are "newbies" I say thanks.
And.- FWIW.- I still visit that AMP (although less frequently because Angie won my custom and so I usually make my visits a little farther away)
OneHitWonders
09-03-09, 05:48
I found myself out in Herndon for work last week, and had an itch. Since the only access I had to this site was via internet on my phone, it was a little hard to navigate. I did what I could though.
Had trouble finding a place I wanted in Chantilly, so I ended up at King instead. It was. . . odd. I wish I could have read the forum better, because I see another monger had a very similar experience to mine.
Had to wait a while in the room after mamasan took the house fee (.8? WTF?), and eventually she came back to shower me. I didn't think it'd be a busy time, but so it goes. She did give a decent shower, for what it's worth. From there, the thing with the hot towels, mamasan comes back with more hot towels, and then finally in walks Yuki.
She was worth waiting for. Cute little K-girl with nice enhancements on top. Massagi was good, although a little too rough at times (that little girl has some strong hands!). The thing that made me nervous, moreso than the mamasan shower bit, is that she massaged through a towel the whole time. I've never had this before at all, and it felt like it wrecked the mood a bit. On the flip, she gave a good front massage (more worry), although the touching of actual skin did happen then.
Then the good part was finally offered. She had to take off for a minute to get a cold towel, since apparently the AC was broken in that room. I didn't notice, but she was clearly overheating, no worries there. She had me towel her back off, and well, it ended up being a good excuse for her to drop her shirt. As stated elsewhere, bolt-on C's. I'm not much for fake usually, but my compliments to the doctor on this one. Finish was quite nice and she encouraged roaming. She also hadn't watched the clock, which worked well for me, given how long I had to wait before.
Overall, I'd repeat again in the off chance I'm in the area, but NoVA really does lie inbetween my choices in MoCo (hahahahahahaha) and the great land of DC. No news there.
My experience was very much the same. Massage was very decent plus I received a wonderful relaxing finish. Yes indeed, I was very impressed with her Bolt-on's...I am already planning on a return visit...Highly recommended!
OneHitWonders
09-03-09, 05:52
A nice gem now also confirmed by me.
Thanks B.D.
On my personal scale, I put the looks at 7.5 and agree with all of the other numbers. One of my better experiences in the last year.Another confirmation! Thanks BD.
Nice attractive lady...nice massage...nice finish...you leave happy!
Brdcsttech
09-03-09, 12:00
But the discussion beforehand changed the idea of gratitude to "fee".- and that killed the "fun" of the visit.
A tip/gratuity discussion with the therapist always spells doom for me, and also usually terminates future visits. I'm not sure I'll return.- I have other places that I really like.
I hate when a new girl from "Flushing" comes down 95 South and wants to give "hand releases" for 80 - 100 bucks! - WTF?!
Last time that happened to me at NSP I just got up, got dressed, ignored the drama and had a conversation with MMS. It certainly kills the mood when they do that.
Brdcsttech
09-03-09, 12:07
Another confirmation! Thanks BD.
Nice attractive lady...nice massage...nice finish...you leave happy!
I must have called Yumi's number a dozen times. All different times of the day. The phone always rings but no one answers. Are you guys just going to the location and asking for a massage? If you google the number from BD you get a legitimate business location in Falls Church. I have thought about driving there and asking if they take walk-ins but...
Nice attractive lady...nice massage...nice finish...you leave happy!
According to Wikipedia..."Reflexology is an alternative medicine method involving the practice of massaging or applying pressure to parts of the feet, or sometimes the hands and ears, with the goal of encouraging a beneficial effect on other parts of the body, or to improve general health." :D
MnV
MrSunnyHills
09-03-09, 21:03
Same result here - and different times of day. Oh well, I'm heading to the West Coast soon, so will have a good selection.
I must have called Yumi's number a dozen times. All different times of the day. The phone always rings but no one answers. Are you guys just going to the location and asking for a massage? If you google the number from BD you get a legitimate business location in Falls Church. I have thought about driving there and asking if they take walk-ins but...
Classy Mike
09-03-09, 22:57
She is out of town until tomorrow (Friday).
I must have called Yumi's number a dozen times. All different times of the day. The phone always rings but no one answers. Are you guys just going to the location and asking for a massage? If you google the number from BD you get a legitimate business location in Falls Church. I have thought about driving there and asking if they take walk-ins but...
great recommendations do that. Let her breath she should answer eventually.
I must have called Yumi's number a dozen times. All different times of the day. The phone always rings but no one answers. Are you guys just going to the location and asking for a massage? If you google the number from BD you get a legitimate business location in Falls Church. I have thought about driving there and asking if they take walk-ins but...
Pete Dagon
09-04-09, 12:52
great recommendations do that. Let her breath she should answer eventually.Is that the same Yumi who advertises on Eros?
Roamin Roman
09-04-09, 18:02
Due to the inundation of requests for "Yumi"s info (see my 8/18/09 post) I am on the fence on whether I should give out info to members who haven't yet posted.It may seem uncharitable and somewhat selfish to withhold intel from someone with a zero post history, but that's part of the way the Forum works. Posting history is, in a way, a form of membership dues. If you haven't paid, then you can't obtain most benefits. It's not quite like a seniority system (as some, like Bradley1, have whined), but instead a form of OpSec and a means of encouraging community participation. Another way to think of it is this: Should someone who intentionally fails to pay his taxes be entitled to the rights of citizenship? Again, this may seem to be a hard approach, but it is a necessary one, IMO. I would vote "No."
RR
P. S.. By the way, BD, good job on re-tooling your approach to posting. While you probably haven't re-tooled your treatment of the women you visit, you've at least made good on reforming your dialogue to fit the community's standards. And, kudos with respect to your opsec.
Roamin Roman
09-04-09, 18:45
As I was in that area the other day, I decided to make a visit to one of the AMPs in the Tysons Corner area. I arrived and Amy (who may also be the manager) shows me to the room and takes the entry fee (.8), saying "I send in good girl." Since I prefer an older gal from time to time, I asked if she would provide the session, and she agreed with what seemed a little bit of surprise. Anyway, the session proceeded as follows:
Table Shower (6.5/10)
Good, but not Outstanding. The therapist had some trouble controlling the sprayer, and managed to hit me in the face a couple times. The water was a nice degree of hot, but she nevertheless turned the hot water down to a lukewarm even though I said that the temperature was fine to begin with. The scrub was good, but again not great. Afterwards, in drying me off, she gave me short-shrift by mostly patting the water off and left me somewhat dripping as we returned to the room.
Massage (8.5/10)
Very good. Not the oft-given perfunctory pushing and brief rubbing, Amy provided a very thorough massage with attention to the muscles from head to toe. In fact, a couple times during the massage, I fell asleep momentarily. She used a light amount of lotion and, after finishing with each part of my body, used a hot towel not only to wipe off the lotion but also (beforehand) relax the muscles further and provide additional massage through the towel.
Ending (5/10)
This would have been so much better if she had only put more "customer care" into things. The beginning, right before the flip, was an extended period of soft touch teasing, which was near-pure bliss. Little Roman woke up very quickly. After the flip, things looked like they would continue along the same tack. She got some lotion, climbed up onto the table and sat between my legs. But, hardly one minute into it, she's saying "Come for me, baby," and "You come now?," which are just total buzzkills. Additionally, she didn't remove her top and, when I tried to lower her straps, she says "You know this isn't free, don't you?" Geez. Yes, I informed her, I knew that. Still, the top never came down. Okay, fine. Then, less than three minutes into things, she says "You gonna come? My arm's getting tired." WTF? On a slow day, by her own admission, her arm is tired after 3 minutes of light handling? Eventually, she managed to complete the task, which was delayed due to her own impatience, and she brought a couple hot towels to clean up.
Departure & Overall (6/10)
After I dressed (with no assistance, nor any water or soda) and tipped her the standard NoVa fee (.4), which all the same may have been more than was justified for this session, she made a brief pouty face but then cheered up and said to come back soon. Uh-huh, only maybe. And one other thing: While her English is excellent, trying to hold any sort of conversation with her was nigh impossible during the session, in spite of multiple attempts at doing so. Just FYI.
Therapist
Age: Late 40s or early 50s
Physical: About 5'-3", 125#, full natural 36Cs, wavy dark brown hair, no smoke breath
FBAS: 7 / 7 / 6.5 / 7
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8.5
Location: 8.5
Discreetness: 7.5
Hours: 10am-9pm
Saw the report about blues eyes, and I stop in there on occasion. You would be able to see any cars since they are behind a stretch of building, a little court, but anyway. Girl claimed to have been there long time, although I hadn't had her before, gave the best TS ever. Slow firm wash crazy good. Then great hands and wonderful feathering the rear areas. Then she started the upsell and I stopped at.6. For standard finish. Will return but will be looking each way.
In Merrifield, about a block north of the fire station on Gallows Road, at 2110A, Second Floor. The place is new and very clean. My one hour massage ($60) was excellent and thorough, but no shower, table or otherwise, was available. Chloe (Chinese) was cute and sweet and strictly legit; no extras available and she remained fully clothed the whole time. No roaming possible. The massage table was in the middle of the room with no provision for back-walking. The location is reasonably discreet with plenty of free parking. Highly recommended, if all you want is a massage.
Oldtar
Calvinmil123
09-05-09, 20:12
First post here and first time to an AMP in PWC since Sakura's bit the big one many moons ago. Most of the posts here about Woodbridge are very negative, so I was reluctant to even look for myself. My regular plans fell thru and I had a very sore neck, so I took a chance last Saturday afternoon. The girl who answered the door was older and a little chubby, but very accommodating. TS was excellent. Then we went for the table massage. I was straightforward with her, and she with me. An agreement was made for a price that was high, but got FS in return. Hadn't heard about that option locally anymore, at least not recently. She told me things were slow, and that she was willing to do what needed to be done. I was quite happy with the results, but I don't know if I will return anytime soon. A younger woman would have been better.
Just got back from a session with AMI at the FCCC!!
The best one yet!
She is small and in PERFECT proportion and just flat out BEAUTIFUL!!
Very talented in all we come to expect from the FCCC!
If you have over 100 posts to your name you may PM and ask for more details.
For the rest of you - just go see her!
JJ
Roamin Roman
09-06-09, 23:47
First post here and first time to an AMP in PWC since Sakura's bit the big one many moons ago. Most of the posts here about Woodbridge are very negative, so I was reluctant to even look for myself. My regular plans fell thru and I had a very sore neck, so I took a chance last Saturday afternoon. The girl who answered the door was older and a little chubby, but very accommodating. TS was excellent. Then we went for the table massage. I was straightforward with her, and she with me. An agreement was made for a price that was high, but got FS in return. Hadn't heard about that option locally anymore, at least not recently. She told me things were slow, and that she was willing to do what needed to be done. I was quite happy with the results, but I don't know if I will return anytime soon. A younger woman would have been better.Since this is your first post, you might not have gotten the earlier memos. So, just in case, here it is:
Don't monger at AMPs in PWC.
If you get caught in a raid or a bust at an AMP, you name will most likely be posted in the local papers. Even if charges are eventually dropped, you will still probably have some explaining to do. Not worth the hassle and risk.
Be forewarned.
Roamin Roman
09-07-09, 00:43
Last weekend, when it was raining heavily albeit briefly in some areas, I decided to venture to one of the AMPs in the outer regions of Fairfax County. The Dulles Toll Road makes it easy to reach this particular AMP without much hassle. There was no wait when I got there, and the gal who answered (call her "Number One") took me right away to the room and got the TS ready. Here is my assessment of the session:
Arrival & Preliminaries (9/10)
As I said, I didn't have to stand outside the door for any appreciable length of time, waiting for someone inside to answer. Number One opened the door within 10 seconds of my having pushed the doorbell and, as I said, showed me to the room immediately and took the entry fee (.8) for the 60-minute session. While she went to get the TS ready, she offered me some cold bottled water (a nice touch).
Table Shower (8/10)
Even though the temps outside were still a bit warm and humid, the hot water of the TS felt good. Number One provided a good thorough scrubbing, as well as not just pleasant but also playful conversation throughout. Afterwards, she took care to dry me off with one towel, and then a second one, before we went back to the room. The TS stall looked and smelled clean, without the odor of mildew that can really put a damper on an otherwise good experience.
Massage (8/10)
Although (I think) the room had a ceiling bar, there was no back-walking offered, nor did I request it. The massage experience itself was good and solid. She used a light amount of oil and provided a modestly-paced top-to-bottom rubdown, including a nice scalp massage. During the entire time, she kept up her end of the conversation, although we didn't spend the entire time talking. At the end, she brought in a hot towel to wipe off the oil, and then put a dry towel over me and massaged me a little more, before removing it and telling me to "Turn over, honey."
Ending (8/10)
Even though this is the part we all wait for, it just wouldn't be the same without the massage leading up to it. Number One climbed up onto the table, applied the oil, and began a slow, steady rhythm. Oh, yes, even though they "can't take clothes off here," she nevertheless only kept the top attached in the most minimal way. While she has a bit of a paunch and is not the youngest provider one will find, her tits still retained a nice shape. And, no matter how many times I get a massage, there's just something about having a woman sitting in front of you with her top up, tits exposed, while she manipulates you into Shangri-La. All of her pleasant/playful conversation, good massage technique, and general nice demeanor had me close to the edge already, so I didn't last too long this time out. And, unlike some therapists, she didn't stop as soon as the Happy Ending started. She stayed on target until she had milked me dry and then some. Then, while I'm laying on the table like a weak kitten, she retrieved a pair of hot washcloths for clean up.
Departure & Overall (8.5/10)
Parting is often sweet sorrow. But, as I suspect I'll be back, the sorrow was tempered by that knowledge. She brought me another bottle of water while I was getting dressed, then gave me a hug and showed me to the door, making sure that no one was in the hallway or outside the door. At no time did she ask for any tip. The whole experience was very enjoyable, and I gave her slightly more than the NoVa average, as a result (.5). If I'm in this area again in the near future, I'll have no problem asking for Number One again even if a younger, better-looking therapist is available. (In other words, I won't have to worry about competition from guys like Xsham and Bradley1. They have their girls, and I have mine. And I'll be the less frustrated, most likely.)
Therapist
Age: Mid-to-late 40s
Physical: ~ 5'-6", 120#, natural 34Cs, straight black hair, some meat on midrif
FBAS: 7.5 / 6.5 / 8.5 / 8.5
Repeatability: 8
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8.5
Convenience: 9
Discreetness: 7.5
Hours: 10am-8:30pm
P.S. - Thanks to PA for the kind words on the previous report. Hopefully, this will also pass muster. I've provided these last two reports in this layout, based on comments I read on another USASG board. The monger lamented that too many reports were just along the lines of "went and got a HE, gave her .4 tip, etc." So, breaking a report into the natural component parts of a session seemed the right solution. If anyone has suggestions on alternate segments or improvements, please feel free to comment or even reflect those suggestions in a report of your own. Also, as with the previous report, I have purposely left out the name and specific location of the AMP. I'll happily provide the additional information to those with a solid post history.
Capitalizing the subject doesn't 'necessarily' make it a proper name, but b/c moderator asks us to, but it could be a proper noun....
Tired of stnd finish at nearby Pine, so tried Shiatsu during weekday afternoon. Saw Young, mid-30s, avg ht & wt, nice curvey body, long hair. Overall, quick and very overpriced services.
.8 house for 60 min. started w/ ok ts. After 10-15 rub massage that was lackluster, she had me flip, and was very direct w/her proposals as she lowered her top to entice. We agreed on .8. She delivered fully nude, russian, oral to me, & very lubed hj- all her techiques were good, just quick. I thought i'd also get the following but didn't- her up on the table, daty, less-rushed.
She said fs avail next time if i brought cover & 'little more' which she finally said was 1.2 extra. I said .2 total?!, she said mamasan takes .8. Could've been worth if if she gave above-avg massgae & took her time to make things more sensual. I was out the door about 45 minutes after i got there, which included her taking a call or two for about 10 minutes. I didn't argue or complain, but instead grabbed a bunch of mints heading out, to offset my losses. If you want to blow thru .2 for quick time, if no one else is avail, then go see her.
Mark Bellows
09-07-09, 15:41
I stopped in to Crown today. I called ahead about 30 mins to get into their good graces. I put up.8 for the hour and was escorted by the MMS to the shower and sauna. This was my first time at this establishment and I really liked the shower. The sauna afterward was also good and piping hot. When I finished up MMS took me back to my room. I waited for what seemed to be at least 20 mins. Then the provider came in. She was a beauty; young, fit, and tanned. I didn't get her name, but she was a 9 or 10 on looks. After she came in, she said we needed to move to a different room. No problem there, just next door. Then she asked hard or soft. I went for hard, and it was pretty lackluster. It started ok, but ended up with her gliding her nails on my back and legs. I decided to go for the turn, and she asked if I've been there before and I said no. She asked where her hand should go, so I put it where it should be. Then I asked for her to get a little comfortable. She said how much? . I said.6 and asked for bottoms too. She said she'd take a card, but I'm not going for that. I settled, and got her B's out. They were nice. She asked if I wanted oil, I went for it. Then HJ to finish. I asked about everything, and she said they don't do that there. Oh well. Maybe more was avalaible, but I didn't. I'm disappointed, but she was smokin hot. If you do venture over there, she's got a light birthmark on her cheek.
Be safe,
MB
Pete Dagon
09-07-09, 20:21
I stopped in to Crown today. I called ahead about 30 mins to get into their good graces. I put up.8 for the hour and was escorted by the MMS to the shower and sauna. This was my first time at this establishment and I really liked the shower. The sauna afterward was also good and piping hot. When I finished up MMS took me back to my room. I waited for what seemed to be at least 20 mins. Then the provider came in. She was a beauty; young, fit, and tanned. I didn't get her name, but she was a 9 or 10 on looks. After she came in, she said we needed to move to a different room. No problem there, just next door. Then she asked hard or soft. I went for hard, and it was pretty lackluster. It started ok, but ended up with her gliding her nails on my back and legs. I decided to go for the turn, and she asked if I've been there before and I said no. She asked where her hand should go, so I put it where it should be. Then I asked for her to get a little comfortable. She said how much? . I said.6 and asked for bottoms too. She said she'd take a card, but I'm not going for that. I settled, and got her B's out. They were nice. She asked if I wanted oil, I went for it. Then HJ to finish. I asked about everything, and she said they don't do that there. Oh well. Maybe more was avalaible, but I didn't. I'm disappointed, but she was smokin hot. If you do venture over there, she's got a light birthmark on her cheek.
Be safe,
MBCrown has some nice providers. If you like a prostrate massage in addition to the HJ on the flip side, these girls do good work.
Black Coffee
09-07-09, 20:51
My employer is open 24/7/365 so today was a workday for me, but I enjoyed the holiday by making a rare weekday visit for a one hour "vacation". Outside the beltway on an odd numbered road in a cluster of office buildings. Very quiet today. Hit the buzzer and was greeted by a tall K-lady who named herself after a popular soft drink (no not Dr. Pepper). I would guess her age to be 50, but she looked like someone who had lived in Florida a long time. Paid for the hour and was led to the table shower. Fair shower, nothing missed except with the towel. Back to the room, requested medium/hard. Massage was fair with back walking but like the shower, was done at 1.5 times normal speed. Quick flip and brief negotiations resulted in her leaving the room for 5 mins. Upon her return things progressed to a point where she had to breathe through her nose. Newbies take note: Even though it was only my second time there and first with this provider, I walk in prepared for anything with a cover and extra cash. I've read on here a few times where a lack of either stopped things from moving forward and sometimes you don't get a second chance. Back to this session, overall it was lackluster and rushed even though the place was dead and the place has not moved much higher on my to-do list. There are new options and old favorites in the area. BTW; Check out Johndao's posts of Thao in the ISG Vietnam Photo Gallery. We are truly on the wrong side of the world! BC.
Max Beelyun
09-07-09, 22:35
I believe I was at the same place later that on Friday. I also drew Amy, she said she was the only one available that day.
Unlike RR, I went for the 30 minute version, so no table shower. My experience was about identical beyond that. She really has a nice touch to start with but it quickly degenerated into "c'mon baby" and I told her I was in no hurry so she should slow down. Had she continued with the initial treatment then I would have finished a lot quicker. There's a difference between "pillow talk" (table talk?) and trying to rush things along.
Regarding tip, I've gotten in the habit of jumping up to grab the money and leaving it out as soon as the girl leaves the room, then getting back on the table to relax a bit more. That way there is less of an opportunity to discuss the amount.
As I was in that area the other day, I decided to make a visit to one of the AMPs in the Tysons Corner area. I arrived and Amy (who may also be the manager) shows me to the room and takes the entry fee (.8), saying "I send in good girl." Since I prefer an older gal from time to time, I asked if she would provide the session, and she agreed with what seemed a little bit of surprise. Anyway, the session proceeded as follows:
Table Shower (6.5/10)
Good, but not Outstanding. The therapist had some trouble controlling the sprayer, and managed to hit me in the face a couple times. The water was a nice degree of hot, but she nevertheless turned the hot water down to a lukewarm even though I said that the temperature was fine to begin with. The scrub was good, but again not great. Afterwards, in drying me off, she gave me short-shrift by mostly patting the water off and left me somewhat dripping as we returned to the room.
Massage (8.5/10)
Very good. Not the oft-given perfunctory pushing and brief rubbing, Amy provided a very thorough massage with attention to the muscles from head to toe. In fact, a couple times during the massage, I fell asleep momentarily. She used a light amount of lotion and, after finishing with each part of my body, used a hot towel not only to wipe off the lotion but also (beforehand) relax the muscles further and provide additional massage through the towel.
Ending (5/10)
This would have been so much better if she had only put more "customer care" into things. The beginning, right before the flip, was an extended period of soft touch teasing, which was near-pure bliss. Little Roman woke up very quickly. After the flip, things looked like they would continue along the same tack. She got some lotion, climbed up onto the table and sat between my legs. But, hardly one minute into it, she's saying "Come for me, baby," and "You come now?," which are just total buzzkills. Additionally, she didn't remove her top and, when I tried to lower her straps, she says "You know this isn't free, don't you?" Geez. Yes, I informed her, I knew that. Still, the top never came down. Okay, fine. Then, less than three minutes into things, she says "You gonna come? My arm's getting tired." WTF? On a slow day, by her own admission, her arm is tired after 3 minutes of light handling? Eventually, she managed to complete the task, which was delayed due to her own impatience, and she brought a couple hot towels to clean up.
Departure & Overall (6/10)
After I dressed (with no assistance, nor any water or soda) and tipped her the standard NoVa fee (.4), which all the same may have been more than was justified for this session, she made a brief pouty face but then cheered up and said to come back soon. Uh-huh, only maybe. And one other thing: While her English is excellent, trying to hold any sort of conversation with her was nigh impossible during the session, in spite of multiple attempts at doing so. Just FYI.
Therapist
Age: Late 40s or early 50s
Physical: About 5'-3", 125#, full natural 36Cs, wavy dark brown hair, no smoke breath
FBAS: 7 / 7 / 6.5 / 7
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8.5
Location: 8.5
Discreetness: 7.5
Hours: 10am-9pm
Hey Boys,
thinking about a visit there. Can anyone pm me with some experiences? (good ones I hope)
PC out
Pete Dagon
09-08-09, 10:36
Upon her return things progressed to a point where she had to breathe through her nose. Newbies take note: Even though it was only my second time there and first with this provider, I walk in prepared for anything<b> with a cover</b> and extra cash. I've read on here a few times where a lack of either stopped things from moving forward and sometimes you don't get a second chance.IMHO, Lack of a cover is not a barrier at an AMP <b>if</b> you have enough cash and only want a BBBJ. BBFS is harder to come by, but hopefully consumer demand will pressure more providers to put that service on the menu.
I believe I was at the same place later that on Friday. I also drew Amy, she said she was the only one available that day.Along with all the other detail the name of the place would be helpful.
Max Beelyun
09-08-09, 14:28
Along with all the other detail the name of the place would be helpful.
I'm never sure how much detail to give in these reports. It's a place on Tyco Rd that advertised in the post today. PM if you need to, I see you have some useful reports posted.
Table Shower (7/10)
TS was very clean. Standard cleaning with liberal hands on her part. Good conversation through out TS.
Massage (9/10)
Very good. Definately an above average massage. Prior to start, she asked how I like my massage and I told her I liked it soft and she was more than accomodating. She started off the massage with a little baby powder (which felt amazing) and very light touching. It made my skin feel tingle and the hair on my neck stood up. Went on to a lotioned massage from head to toe. There was a bar above the table so walking is available, but I assume it wasn't used per my request for a soft massage.
Ending (8/10)
First off, it's hard for me to score any ending higher than an 8 when it is a standard VA ending, but as far as VA is concerned, this would be a 9. Fantastic work with no pressure concerning tip or rushing. Roaming was allowed.
Therapist
Name: Happy
Age: Mid 30's
Physical: About 5'-3", 110 lbs. Enhanced 36Cs, but very natural feel and look. Very attractive with an anazing smile.
I will definately be going back. I very much enjoyed Happy and I do think that she lived up to her name!
Time: 1 hour for .8
Tip: .6 (I know a little high for standard VA, but I enjoyed the experience so much, she did warrant better than average tip).
Facilities:8.5
Cleanliness: 9
Location: 8.5
Discreetness: 7 (lower if after 5pm)
Please advise me of any providers that include BBFS on the menu so I can avoid. I did not reallize that consumer demand was that high. Maybe it's just me.
IMHO, Lack of a cover is not a barrier at an AMP <b>if</b> you have enough cash and only want a BBBJ. BBFS is harder to come by, but hopefully consumer demand will pressure more providers to put that service on the menu.
Black Coffee
09-08-09, 17:29
IMHO, Lack of a cover is not a barrier at an AMP <b>if</b> you have enough cash and only want a BBBJ. BBFS is harder to come by, but hopefully consumer demand will pressure more providers to put that service on the menu.I was putting the info out for newbies based on what I've read in this forum and my own experience. I have no interest in BBFS this close to DC or anywhere else at this time as I plan to take my tired old ass to LOS and/or PI in 3-7 years.
BC
I was putting the info out for newbies based on what I've read in this forum and my own experience. I have no interest in BBFS this close to DC or anywhere else at this time as I plan to take my tired old ass to LOS and/or PI in 3-7 years.
BCI agree. There is no interest on my part for any BBFS. WAY to risky on so many levels.
OneHitWonders
09-08-09, 23:53
Last weekend, when it was raining heavily albeit briefly in some areas, I decided to venture to one of the AMPs in the outer regions of Fairfax County. The Dulles Toll Road makes it easy to reach this particular AMP without much hassle. There was no wait when I got there, and the gal who answered (call her "Number One") took me right away to the room and got the TS ready. Here is my assessment of the session:
Arrival & Preliminaries (9/10)
As I said, I didn't have to stand outside the door for any appreciable length of time, waiting for someone inside to answer. Number One opened the door within 10 seconds of my having pushed the doorbell and, as I said, showed me to the room immediately and took the entry fee (.8) for the 60-minute session. While she went to get the TS ready, she offered me some cold bottled water (a nice touch).
Table Shower (8/10)
Even though the temps outside were still a bit warm and humid, the hot water of the TS felt good. Number One provided a good thorough scrubbing, as well as not just pleasant but also playful conversation throughout. Afterwards, she took care to dry me off with one towel, and then a second one, before we went back to the room. The TS stall looked and smelled clean, without the odor of mildew that can really put a damper on an otherwise good experience.
Massage (8/10)
Although (I think) the room had a ceiling bar, there was no back-walking offered, nor did I request it. The massage experience itself was good and solid. She used a light amount of oil and provided a modestly-paced top-to-bottom rubdown, including a nice scalp massage. During the entire time, she kept up her end of the conversation, although we didn't spend the entire time talking. At the end, she brought in a hot towel to wipe off the oil, and then put a dry towel over me and massaged me a little more, before removing it and telling me to "Turn over, honey."
Ending (8/10)
Even though this is the part we all wait for, it just wouldn't be the same without the massage leading up to it. Number One climbed up onto the table, applied the oil, and began a slow, steady rhythm. Oh, yes, even though they "can't take clothes off here," she nevertheless only kept the top attached in the most minimal way. While she has a bit of a paunch and is not the youngest provider one will find, her tits still retained a nice shape. And, no matter how many times I get a massage, there's just something about having a woman sitting in front of you with her top up, tits exposed, while she manipulates you into Shangri-La. All of her pleasant/playful conversation, good massage technique, and general nice demeanor had me close to the edge already, so I didn't last too long this time out. And, unlike some therapists, she didn't stop as soon as the Happy Ending started. She stayed on target until she had milked me dry and then some. Then, while I'm laying on the table like a weak kitten, she retrieved a pair of hot washcloths for clean up.
Departure & Overall (8.5/10)
Parting is often sweet sorrow. But, as I suspect I'll be back, the sorrow was tempered by that knowledge. She brought me another bottle of water while I was getting dressed, then gave me a hug and showed me to the door, making sure that no one was in the hallway or outside the door. At no time did she ask for any tip. The whole experience was very enjoyable, and I gave her slightly more than the NoVa average, as a result (.5). If I'm in this area again in the near future, I'll have no problem asking for Number One again even if a younger, better-looking therapist is available. (In other words, I won't have to worry about competition from guys like Xsham and Bradley1. They have their girls, and I have mine. And I'll be the less frustrated, most likely.)
Therapist
Age: Mid-to-late 40s
Physical: ~ 5'-6", 120#, natural 34Cs, straight black hair, some meat on midrif
FBAS: 7.5 / 6.5 / 8.5 / 8.5
Repeatability: 8
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8.5
Convenience: 9
Discreetness: 7.5
Hours: 10am-8:30pm
P.S. - Thanks to PA for the kind words on the previous report. Hopefully, this will also pass muster. I've provided these last two reports in this layout, based on comments I read on another USASG board. The monger lamented that too many reports were just along the lines of "went and got a HE, gave her .4 tip, etc." So, breaking a report into the natural component parts of a session seemed the right solution. If anyone has suggestions on alternate segments or improvements, please feel free to comment or even reflect those suggestions in a report of your own. Also, as with the previous report, I have purposely left out the name and specific location of the AMP. I'll happily provide the additional information to those with a solid post history.
RR - Excellent Post. Right on... My 30 minute experience was identical. I totally agree about the conclusion of the massage. I think she has this down to a science. Personally, I get turned off (no pun intended) when they push the tip issue and the hurry up issue. I considerable myself very generous with my tipping and wish they would not make such a big deal...It ruins the mood. That said, I will see her again...
Any intel. on this one. I was interested in visiting. It seems they re-direct you after you get there park and call. A guys answers phone always. I tried a couple of times to see if any female would answer.
Do you guys recommend?
I drove out to the Chesapeake Bay for late night drive last night. Place was dead. Had my favorite, a girl named after a kid's cereal. Services were great, now that I'm her regular. My only complaint was, after engaging in some small talk, I asked how business was and such, she starts to go off on this nagging rant about how she works so much with no time off, etc. Note to self: talk about happy things to a provider next time. But I'm in like Flynn with her so it's all good.
Pete Dagon
09-09-09, 08:32
It's easy enough to get - just the right combination of $$$ and sweet talk. Most girls will consider it for an extra $, and I've paid as much as $$ extra for it.
Please advise me of any providers that include BBFS on the menu so I can avoid. I did not reallize that consumer demand was that high. Maybe it's just me.It's not just you. And don't put a whole lot of stock in the views regarding consumer demand of someone who joined the board in the past two weeks. This is the internet. TrollsRUs is never out of stock.
Pete Dagon
09-09-09, 12:12
Went to Crown for a little hand relief, but got a little something extra. Dropped in bright & early, first customer of the day for a plump little K-girl.
She took off her sun dress and my oh my a nice beautiful pair of natural Cs greet me. Not much in the way of English, but we both speak the language of love, 'cause those panties come off purty quick.
Very liberal roaming allowed, and she moves in for some DFK. She is wet and juicy, and really hot to trot. Before we get down to the main course, she sucks my fingers clean. No more DFK for me, LOL.
HJ or BBBJ? I'll have the latter please, and she obliges with a big grin on her face. Sloppy and wet, just the way I like it, so much so that I have a second cup of coffee.
Looks: 10
Service: 10
Massage: 0 (They offer massage at these places)
Table Shower: N/A
.8 for the house, and $.20 for the lady.
Didn't find out if BBFS was on the menu.
Pilot Aviator
09-09-09, 16:10
Went to my ATF NoVA SPA to see my newest ATF "Sue." This was going to be a special visit.- had gone to ***'* twice before and "Sue on vacation today" (and I still had a nice visit and a great massage, but I was missing Sue). Today, Angie broke the news.- Sue not work here anymore.(my heart breaks).
Details follow.- in summary.- Heart healed.- and as always a great visit
Arrival & Preliminaries (10/10)
I've been a client for some time. For me, this place is like "Cheer's".- a place where everybody knows you and everbody has a smile for the return of a good client.
They even offer drinks up-front (OK. Water or soda.- water today thanks).
Extra warm hugs from Angie-sama (with her appology that Sue is no longer there, eventhough I had called and asked for Sue by name. And told to come on over).
An extra hug from Angie when she returned with my change (usual hour for.8)
M**** came in.- and M**** remembered I had been her client her first day when she acted as substitute for "vacationing Sue" (two visits previous).
She went to get TS ready, returned and off we went.
Table Shower (8/10)
My favorite part of the visit.- good warm water, good soap, good clean time very enjoyed. I noticed the door-bell rang two different times (so I anticipated the shower would be shorter than I wanted).- but it was long enough.
Dried off then back to room.- new dry towel.-- lay down please.
Massage (8/10)
The massage was good to very good. M**** can't be more than 100lbs, but she gets good force in her arms. Light lotion and great long stokes. Great work on lower back (and I needed it).
We had a nice conversation most of the time.- and when it was quiet, it was comfortable quiet. Usually get a nice hot-towel after the lotion with others, but was not what M**** did.
Time to turn over
Ending (8-10/10)
I rated this 8-10 out of deference to what the individual reader thinks makes for a great ending. For me it was a solid 9.- even better than my last visit with M****.
After. A warm towel and more massage on hips/thighs and head. Very nice
Departure & Overall (9/9)
I will miss Sue. I really liked her and she was skilled and pretty.
I hope M**** stays a long time.
On the beauty scale she is a 10 in every category you could care about. I was more generous with the tip.- and likely will continue to be so for this provider.
Therapist:
Age: 30 (plus or minus)
Physical: 5'-3", 100#, fit and wonderfully shaped, rich, dark chestnut brown hair.
FBAS: 10 / 10 / 10 / I forget what the "S" is for.- but assume it is really good
Repeatability: 10
Facilities
Cleanliness: 9
Convenience: 10
Discreetness: 8
Hours: 10am-9pm
Decided to try this out after seeing it in CL. YMMV but this is no Kings.
Provider was Bebe. She is just ok average. Place is clean but stand up shower only though they have room for a table (maybe in the future). I got an ok massage and no extras. Paid a 20 for the massage and left.
Since I got nothing and was looking decided to hit Aroma a few miles away. Got Kathy. Another average girl. Place does look the same. Kathy gave a GREAT massage and only standard finish with sub standard roaming.
I really need to try kings though from all the reviews. Just need to get the address when it on CL again.
Would I do MT or AT again. No.
Everything with this guy is some kinda BB service.. My crap detector is starting to chirp...
Any intel. on this one. I was interested in visiting. It seems they re-direct you after you get there park and call. A guys answers phone always. I tried a couple of times to see if any female would answer.
Do you guys recommend?
Sac4422, pls go there and report what you find for us or TOFFT ok? After which you can start asking for freebie info.
PC out
Pete Dagon
09-10-09, 07:11
Any intel. on this one. I was interested in visiting. It seems they re-direct you after you get there park and call. A guys answers phone always. I tried a couple of times to see if any female would answer.
Do you guys recommend?Yes. This is a definite recommend. Sue gives a great massage and HJ for $.20
Sac4422, pls go there and report what you find for us or TOFFT ok? After which you can start asking for freebie info.
PC outI tried to go there a few weeks ago. I went to the address on Galows Rd and called as instructed in ad. Man answered and started giving me directions to someplace else. Thought I would either get robbed or arrested and gave up. FYI
Pilot Aviator
09-10-09, 18:01
I had an "unusable for any other purpose" hour today – but only an hour.
There is a very reliable (if not upscale) AMP nearby. It was the first AMP I ever visited – and, although no longer my ATF place, it is a place where I have spent some very enjoyable time. So since I only had an hour, and it was close, and what I wanted was a light touch, I went to see my old friend S**** at *** (a place not far from the mixing bowl).
I called before I arrived ("yes, appointment today no problem") and I was walking in the door three minutes later.
Arrival & Preliminaries (10/10)
It had been over a month since my last visit (I told S**** I had been travelling – true enough, I just did not say it was to other spas). S**** scolded me for being gone too long – and then gave me a very big hug in the treatment room. Paid the usual for an hour – "shower honey? Of course".
Table Shower (9/10)
This was the first place I ever experienced a TS – and it is still a great place to have one. S**** knows how to provide an almost full massage (and almost was almost too far today. Wow). Everything extra clean and extra big smiles. She keeps teasing me about me giving her a shower – some day, some day. And that will be the day I score a TS 10/10
Rinse, dry, and then back to room. In the room she towels me off again, I take the towel and dry her legs and feet – give her a hug – and lay down.
Massage (5-10/10)
Massage (medium or deep) back and leg work is not what S**** is good at (at best 5/10). But – if you like a light feather tease from head to toe and all crooks and crannies in-be-tween I've not found anyone better (10/10). Today I did not need a massagi – I wanted light feathery touches (another reason I spent this hour at ***)
Ending (10/10)
During the massagi all of S****'s binding elastics became un-bound.-- and more soft pleasant touches followed. For about a year now, S**** has been very happy to allow me to provide her a FBSM.-- and today she took more pleasure than usual (and, unless I was fooled, and I may have been, she enjoyed three times to my one – and her enjoyment added to my total level of enjoyment.
After. A warm towel (for both of us) and more massage on legs, chest, and abdomen. Interesting – on the front side, S****'s skill with massage is very good to excellent – and it filled an extra 15 minutes past the agreed hour. Really very nice
Departure & Overall (10/9)
It is good to visit old friends – and I contend it is good to be friendly to these ladies. As I learned from the seniors on this forum, only take the cash you want to spend.-- this was a problem today for me, because I definitely enjoyed more than I would on a standard visit – but I only had a standard gratuity with me.
I am not aware of any provider at *** ever looking at the tip or even mentioning it – and S**** certainly did not look at what I left under the alarm clock. However I told her I really had a good time – and that next time I would show my respect for her by being more generous (and would make up for this time, and be more than usually generous for that next time.-- I figure, I need to have 0.8 for my next visit for the gratuity as a gomenesai for today, and to be appropriately generous assuming similar service).
Therapist:
Age: 45 (plus)
Physical: 5'-1", 130#, cute, a nice natural shape (all natural and typically small). S**** would admit she has a little paunch (while never mentioning I am 50 pounds heavier than I would be if I were a fit hard-body) soft dark hair (up in a clip today – normally shoulder length)
FBAS: 7+ / 7+ / 10 / I think the S is for service.-- no IT IS NOT A FULL SERVICE PLACE (note for MAN GRODD) – but for a NoVA AMP, I think her service is a solid 9
Repeatability: yes – this is a place I will repeat – I like my ATF place better – but this place has good memories and good people
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8 (a bit shabby now – a bit run down – but everything is clean enough)
Convenience: 10
Discreetness: It is in an industrial kind of place (but not an industrial park) – so, perhaps not as discrete as some would like – depending on the time of day, I sometimes choose to park across the street rather than in the small "behind the building" parking pad.
Hours: 10am-9pm
As is true for all – YMMV – but you are likely to enjoy your visit more if you are always nice to the ladies
PA
PS – some concern has been expressed about either too little or too much detail in our posts. My suggestion is to provide appropriate commentary, but take precautions from directly exposing the provider or business to unwanted scrutiny. For those that have TOFTT on more than one occasion, they will have already determined where this spa is located and who is the provider.-- If you can't, you can ask for more info and perhaps get a reply, but you'll really have more fun if you just go out and enjoy a visit yourself to any of the well advertised places on CL, backpage, or appropriate sections of the WP.
I do not know I have not seen the Eros post.
Is that the same Yumi who advertises on Eros?
VAmongerman
09-11-09, 08:16
Wish I could have had the same experience, but no.....I drew Annie, medium build, 40ish and very experienced IMHO. Massage was nice and relaxing. Crown is a great place environment-wise, with spacious rooms, clean as a whistle and a truly awesome space-capsule like shower that is almost worth the trip itself.
On the flip just nova standard, albeit somewhat turbocharged with a great deal of nova standard options available with "roaming". But still nova standard. Not sure I would repeat, but I really enjoyed Annie as she is a very, very nice girl, a sweet heart despite being a pro - and should be treated well.
Went to Crown for a little hand relief, but got a little something extra. Dropped in bright & early, first customer of the day for a plump little K-girl.
She took off her sun dress and my oh my a nice beautiful pair of natural Cs greet me. Not much in the way of English, but we both speak the language of love, 'cause those panties come off purty quick.
Very liberal roaming allowed, and she moves in for some DFK. She is wet and juicy, and really hot to trot. Before we get down to the main course, she sucks my fingers clean. No more DFK for me, LOL.
HJ or BBBJ? I'll have the latter please, and she obliges with a big grin on her face. Sloppy and wet, just the way I like it, so much so that I have a second cup of coffee.
Looks: 10
Service: 10
Massage: 0 (They offer massage at these places)
Table Shower: N/A
.8 for the house, and $.20 for the lady.
Didn't find out if BBFS was on the menu.
Vietnam Girls
09-11-09, 14:42
Had a visit to the FCCC yesterday. I hadn't seen much info recently, but cam across a name I recognized (J.L.) on the internet with a different number. So I called up and recognized the voice on the other end. I asked for J.L. and made the arrangements.
When I arrived I went through the usual procedure. As the door opened I had to take a second look at the girl. I had seen J.L. before. It had been a while, but this didn't look like her. Before I could say anything she told me her name was Amy. I can't say I was dissapointed at all. She was very nice looking in my opinion (8/10).
Had the usual quick shower before and then the massage started. She is a very light masseus. She started into the erotic part and had a good technique. On the flip she started with a CBJ. She goes very deep and I could have been satisfied with just that. Didn't DATY, but tried for finger inside. She was wet, but resisted.
She rode for a while, more than most girls. Then it was my turn. After about 10 minutes it was all done. We both finished up with a shower and a kiss on the way out. All-in-all about 40 minutes.
She is there until the 16th. I would recommend a visit.
On friday I decided to visit King after reading some interesting posts here. Arrived few minutes before 2pm, area not bad, kinda crowded, but I can imagine it could be diferrent story after dark, too many corners to hide behind. Anyway, mamasan opened door, escort me into the office for little wait. About 10 min. There is small window, you can see front door and anyone on the way in or out. Two clients leaving. Maybe that window should be covered. After that mamasan took me to the room, collect house fee, I got ready for shower, then she come back and take me there. Don't understand why ladies don't do that, but what can I do. She does good job TS, but asked me to wash my self on some places. This never happened as far as I remember, only once at Green while ago. Is this the way they do in LC? Back in room she started massage, then left to answer phone, came back to continue, then left again, I stayed in room for about 5min then finally girl named Linda comes. She gives somewhat good massage, standard finish, roaming allowed, she uncovers. After that she continues massage front, trully full body massage, scalp, ears, face, crack my neck. Overall from time I entered to time I left an hour and half for standard fee and standard tip. Will try again see if the procedure is same or not, but try someone else. By the way I haven't seen any info on Green lately. I'm working in that area now and want to pay visit. Is it worth it? I'm sure there are new girls since my last visit. What's on the menu. Please PM with details.Thanks
First, these are a week or so old. I need to be better about sharing info.
Day one found me at K***. I was warmly greeted by A, chastised for not being by in a while, and led back to my room. A little more chit chat and some playful groping with A, and she left. A few moments later M***y came in and escorted me to the TS. I hadnt met her before, so we talked a little while she gave a mostly great scrubdown. Lots of forearm work, which I like, but she kept hitting my face with the collateral spray from the nozzle. Back in the room, M gave a pretty decent massagi, started poor, but definitely got better as she got more comfortable. Walked my back at my request, and I was able to get her laughing. Standard conclusion delivered with above averge enthusiasm and skill. Standard hour rate and tip. I'll return as I've never been disapointed there.
Day two I was in another part of Springfield, decided to try C**. Not crazy about the parking. Walked in and was greeted by M**a. She escorted me to a room, collected the house fee and asked if I wanted a shower, yes please. She left, but returned as my therapist. Now I know theres no way to accurately guess the ages of these ladies, but she seemed younger than average, and was definitely bigger than average. She led me to the shower, I like that room more than the one at K***, and delivered an adequate TS, but she was even worse with the collateral spray than the above experience. Back in the room, she asked what I liked, and I requested medium then soft massage. She complied, but the massage was sub par, and I mostly felt like some sort of dough, being pounded and prodded. Standard conclusion, nothing special. Definitely a legit spot, but I probably won't return.
AKFourtySeven
09-13-09, 15:37
So how big is she?Good looking big or ugly big?
Well, I've always heard that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My therapist was on the thicker side. She wasnt fat, but she wasnt my type, and personally, I'd say she was a 5 tops.
LatinaLover77
09-15-09, 17:54
So I was checking out the backpages of the internet. I found this link and it has photo's if you follow the inside link to the website. Curious if anyone has visited this place even though it's located in PWC (the sex prison of mongers). I'm still not into the asian persuasion and still want to find a latina to indulge my needs and this place looks like it could be promising. If nobody has tried it out I suppose I can spare the .90 for the half hour to see the quality of providers. If anyone has heard any scuttlebutt about this place, let me know before the weekend....
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage4you2_all_day_therapeutic_or_sensual_21/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=2017843
They advertise on CL as well and have locations in PWC and Arlington. I have considered it myself, but the entry fee is a bit high, although the prices vary from ad to ad. One of the ladies (Tina) also advertises services at her home in PWC. The price in the ad here is higher than .90. I will be looking for report.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/adg/1374453335.html
So I was checking out the backpages of the internet. I found this link and it has photo's if you follow the inside link to the website. Curious if anyone has visited this place even though it's located in PWC (the sex prison of mongers). I'm still not into the asian persuasion and still want to find a latina to indulge my needs and this place looks like it could be promising. If nobody has tried it out I suppose I can spare the .90 for the half hour to see the quality of providers. If anyone has heard any scuttlebutt about this place, let me know before the weekend.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage4you2_all_day_therapeutic_or_sensual_21/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=2017843
It's been a long time since I posted a report on this forum, too lazy I guess.
After reading a couple of recent positive reports of this new place (one suggesting that BJ may be in the menu), I fell asleep in front of my computer and dreamed the following:
Called in advance to set an appointment for 30 minutes later, Asian lady picked up, asked for my name, and the appointment was set. Very easy.
Drove to an office complex, had no problems finding the building, but the office number wasn't listed on the Clist ad, so called back and got the info.
Knocked on the door, skinny, older asian lady opens the door, looks more like a cleaning lady (no disrespect, but she seems to be the manager), she leads me to a room, and I wait a minute or two. The place looks very clean, and it has obviously been very recently renovated, new carpets, new paint job, new doors, etc. 10 points for cleanliness.
Then walks in Annie, Korean girl, must be in the mid 40's. Speaks better English than most K-girls in this business, but still far from perfect. Massage was average in my opinion, her technique is a little monotonous. But she did do a very good walk on my back, and her skin is very, very soft.
Standard nova ending, she let the twins breath. Once I was completely relaxed, she cleaned me up with a hot towel. As she cleaned me up, she whispered in my ear "Other girls here no do special massage, only I do." Probably not true.
As I got dressed, I placed 45 thank-yous on the little table, although I always do 35. Gave her a few extra thank-yous because this was my first time in the place, and wanted her to pass on the word that I'm a polite customer. But, and this is the first time this has happened, generally girls don't ever get near the thank-yous until I leave, but she counted them in front of me as I got dressed, and said "45? 1 more. I treat you good." Meaning she wanted 20 more thank-yous. I politely said, next time honey. She insisted a bit, but she wasn't rude or pushy about it. I stood my ground and politely kept saying "Maybe next time." She wanted 65 thank-yous. But she knew she was asking for too much so she quickly gave up. She did not get angry, she was still all smiles, I think she was just testing me to see if she could get more thank-yous out of me.
She walked me to the door, and said come back soon honey. Although Annie provides a good service, I'll ask for another lady next time, just to see if there are others, and if they provide better therapy.
And then I woke up, and realized this was all a dream.
The Nub.
Dfs N Vabeach
09-16-09, 00:52
So I was checking out the backpages of the internet. I found this link and it has photo's if you follow the inside link to the website. Curious if anyone has visited this place even though it's located in PWC (the sex prison of mongers). I'm still not into the asian persuasion and still want to find a latina to indulge my needs and this place looks like it could be promising. If nobody has tried it out I suppose I can spare the.90 for the half hour to see the quality of providers. If anyone has heard any scuttlebutt about this place, let me know before the weekend.
http://washingtondc. Backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage4you2_all_day_therapeutic_or_sensual_21/classifieds/ViewAd? Oid=2017843I visited massage parlor in DC about 2 weeks ago (see my report in DC Section). Latina working there. Shoot me a pm if you have any other questions.
Good Luck
So I was checking out the backpages of the internet. I found this link and it has photo's if you follow the inside link to the website. Curious if anyone has visited this place even though it's located in PWC (the sex prison of mongers). I'm still not into the asian persuasion and still want to find a latina to indulge my needs and this place looks like it could be promising. If nobody has tried it out I suppose I can spare the .90 for the half hour to see the quality of providers. If anyone has heard any scuttlebutt about this place, let me know before the weekend.
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/massage4you2_all_day_therapeutic_or_sensual_21/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=2017843Many reviews from another site indicate this is a "show me the money" type setting. Does not seem to be worth the cost -- quality does not seem to be there.
Hello gentlemen,
I have been a member of this board since 2006, and since then I have received therapy in several NOVA establishments, and while I no longer consider myself a "newbie, " I still need help from my fellow hobbyist from time to time.
As much as I enjoy the ending of my therapy, a lot of time I am left wishing that the massage itself were as enjoyable and relaxing as the finish.
The best massage I've had was from the (ex)manager of Backlick Hollistic (unremarkable nova finish was provided, but the massage was the best I've had). She had incredibly strong hands, a true professional. I hadn't visited the place in a while, but today I decided to swing by Backlick to see her as my back has been acting up lately, only to find out that the place was under new management, and the entire staff was new.
Wich brings me to my question:
Where should I go to get a great massage in Nova? (nova ending, if available, is a plus)
PMs are more than welcomed.
Thanks in advance
Harley Dude 29
09-17-09, 09:05
Many reviews from another site indicate this is a "show me the money" type setting. Does not seem to be worth the cost -- quality does not seem to be there.
I visited several months ago, and the reviews here were right on target. You will approach $$ easily and that is not the top. Ladies are low shelf CL types. The location is really visible, and I am surprised they have not had a visit by a poor uncle looking to increase his quota.
Have been away for a while but was ready for a Holiday afternoon.
Had seen NaNa several times in the past and had been very satisfied, so I called and they said she was available. When I was greeted at the door the lady asked if I had called and introduced herself as "New NaNa".
She said Old NaNa was on vacation and she would be better than old NaNa.
New NaNa was really old NaNa in age and appearance but I thought it might be worth a try since I was already there.
TS was 6-8, looks 4-5, a bit plump, and probably 35-45 although she wouldn't commit to anything when I politely inquired. Massage was 6-7 but she was really strange acting. She would stop frequently and start talking about her personal situations. Hard to find work so that was why she was working there, money problems, old boy friend problems etc.
I managed to get re-focused and semi enjoy a semi enjoyable finish.
Would not repeat and if new NaNa and the other lady I saw there are any indication the place is going down hill. Would not repeat unless old NaNa returns from vacation.
Brdcsttech
09-17-09, 22:30
Today I went to NSP instead. Big mistake! Lee was the therapist. Too much talking, smelled of cigarettes, and engaged in an embarassing, blatant, upsell. After shower takes me to room and asks what I want. I say $ for everything. She says she charges $ for hand release and soft touch massage. Feels like everything. I said no. .4 for hand release. She kept trying to get me to agree to $. She finally left the room then I got up and got dressed. She seemed surprised when she returned and I was tying my shoes. Some fake acting and fake tears. I told her I did not appreciate her trying to ripp me off. I said she should learn the rates when she comes to a new place and not be so greedy. She said OK, OK, everything for $. Too late. Ruined the mood.
Mama refunded my house fee. Was very apologetic and said she would get a new girl soon. I have had great times there before with Judy, Anna, and another lady who's name escapes me at the moment.
Tonight I went back to NSP. The Lady remembered me and was happy to see me but she scolded me for putting up this bad report last month. I can't remove it. She asked me to try. If you are reading this I can't delete my old post.
Met a new girl tonight. Her name is Bebe. All I can say is go see her. You WILL have a great time with her. She certainly makes up for the last bad session I had there. They are nice to regular customers at NSP. You all should try and become regular customers over there.
AKFourtySeven
09-18-09, 07:36
Try ATMB in Arlingtron.
Their ad is in todays post and they are in the Yello Pages.
Not hard to find.
They are in a old medical building next to a lamp store.
I would like to confirm on behalf of Bird Dropping the post of a sexy therapist that will provide BBBJ/BBFS. While I took the previous and for the latter, gloved up, the offer was there.
Very nice find BD and thank you.
Guitarman1
09-19-09, 00:41
Tonight I went back to NSP. The Lady remembered me and was happy to see me but she scolded me for putting up this bad report last month. I can't remove it. She asked me to try. If you are reading this I can't delete my old post.
Met a new girl tonight. Her name is Bebe. All I can say is go see her. You WILL have a great time with her. She certainly makes up for the last bad session I had there. They are nice to regular customers at NSP. You all should try and become regular customers over there.
The old post should be there. The described experience may not be the norm at NSP but it did happen that time. As long as the lady who runs the place makes sure it doesn't happen again, the one bad report will not affect their business. I have been the NSP a few times over the past few months (all good times) and that report does not affect whether or not I will go there again. Every experience, good or bad, should be shared here. This site is for mongers to share information for other mongers, not to look out for providers and establishments.
Ok, went there yesterday evening (Far.), Mamasan answered, Really old and Really WRINKLED, and said I'd have to wait a long time. Hmmm. I'm 50's white gray hair, she thought I was LE? Or Are they under radar?
I can't stop thinking about getting a massage at an AMP. I'm very curious and was just wondering if anyone knows anything about bodywork treatment in manassas. Also, I'm 19, maybe look alittle younger, will this affect me getting the good stuff? . I know they charge 50 for the half hour so I will bring a hefty tip.
Any help would be appreciated.
If you are 19, no matter what say you are way over 21. I look a lot younger than I am as well and always get asked my age everytime I visit my usual spot. First time I went to an amp with a buddy, he got turned away by Mamasan because he was only 19 and told her his real age.
Pattayadiver
09-20-09, 18:16
Went to a location in Tysons. saw the ad saying new and grand opening. .6 for the hr, so figured I would go for it. Only one therapist and she was old. She gave a good rub down and handshake finish. But I will not repeat.
Was this a rug/carpet place?
Went to a location in Tysons. saw the ad saying new and grand opening. .6 for the hr, so figured I would go for it. Only one therapist and she was old. She gave a good rub down and handshake finish. But I will not repeat.
Was this a rug/carpet place?**Magic Relax Oriental Massage**
"All Kind Of Massage Only $60/hr"
Open 7days 10am-10pm(After 9pm best by appointment)
That's the ad. I think its the dollar a minute massage place
Pilot Aviator
09-22-09, 18:28
For me, I now have the definitive answer regarding the question "how long a visit today" – the answer is TAKE THE HOUR. 30 minutes of enjoyment is nice – but an hour is more than twice as nice.
HOWEVER – today, I really wanted a visit to my ATF, and I really only had 40 minutes max.
Arrival & Preliminaries (10/10)
The doors were open – but I rang the bell anyway and waited in the Foyer. Our favorite MMS greeted me and escorted ne to room 7. <Sad news, Sue, Ruby and Mindy are gone – they were not happy so they moved on – (sigh) "only half-hour today? " she said with a raised eyebrow – Yes I replied sadly – "OK, you want shower anyway? " of course – and MMS knowing I would want a shower and bending the "hour for shower" rule is just one indication she is a good manager and appreciates regular clients.
A moment later Joanne comes back with the change. I had not seen her since June (and she knew it). Big hug. Several more – off to the shower.
Table Shower (9/10)
This is my favorite TS place. And I got a full 10 minute massage with the shower (Joanne knows I really like that). She even washed my hair (I had just had it cut). All clean and quite happy we return to the room.
Massage (soft massage only today – and for a soft massage 8+/10)
I had only made a 30 minute appointment – so, soft massage starts on my back. Much enjoyed
Ending (8/10)
Enjoyed.
After. A warm towel – and time to get dressed
Departure & Overall (7+)
I heard the bell ring – she didn't and almost walked me into another client – but no problem – we waited. Then I left (privacy maintained). Water as I left – and a final hug,
She did not look – but I left Ulysses in the room to say thanks. Yes – that is more than usual – and today usual would have been enough – but, they showed me extra consideration.
Therapist:
Age: over 40
Physical: 5'-7", 120#, a wonderful natural shape (all natural and proportional). Black longish hair cut in a traditional square manner (past shoulder length) with bangs
FBAS: 7+ / 9+ / 10 / 8.5
Repeatability: yes
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8 (place shows its' age – but everything is clean.)
Convenience: 10
Discreetness: Professional office complex townhouse parking allows for discrete parking and mostly discrete entry.
I will be away for a month or so (personal and business travel) – be extra nice to the ladies while I am away
PA
BTW – business is very slow right now gentlemen, so do YOUR favorite provider a favor and book an appointment,
Pattayadiver
09-22-09, 18:56
That was the name in the ad. Did not mean to get your panties in a bunch. Was not being derogatory, but now that you mention it, she did have a small carpet remnant. Not sure if it was for sale. It was an antique, in my opinion.
Stay safe out there guy.
Was this a rug/carpet place?
**Magic Relax Oriental Massage**
I think its the dollar a minute massage place
The "older" establishment callled "Dollar Massage" is another couple blocks further south on Gallows above a Vet clinic. That place is a real dump with no real walls, poor environmental controls, and zero extras. And, the one therapist I saw there will sweat profusely during the massage and drip all over you.
"Oriental" is newer, has real walls, but no shower of any kind.
A YMMV situation with respect to extras. Very limited menu. Mostly Chinese therapists.
was enjoyable to read. Thanks for the update and the chuckle.
That was the name in the ad. Did not mean to get your panties in a bunch. Was not being derogatory, but now that you mention it, she did have a small carpet remnant. Not sure if it was for sale. It was an antique, in my opinion.
Stay safe out there guy.
Member #3960
09-23-09, 17:16
Anyone have anything good to say about this place?
Just found out it exists and am dying to try it out.
I have been going there for years.
Some times better than others but never had a bad experience.
Always a reader never a writer. But today is different. Went to Crown. Very nice place. First time so just looking. Therapist was Una? Well, nice massage but expected younger in mid twenties (Florida and California that is average age) got mid forties: o Nice TS, nice strong massage. Left a.2 tip.
So what is Nova finish? Is that same as happy ending? (yes or no answer is ok-thanks)
OneHitWonders
09-24-09, 00:13
For me, I now have the definitive answer regarding the question "how long a visit today" – the answer is TAKE THE HOUR. 30 minutes of enjoyment is nice – but an hour is more than twice as nice.
HOWEVER – today, I really wanted a visit to my ATF, and I really only had 40 minutes max.
Arrival & Preliminaries (10/10)
The doors were open – but I rang the bell anyway and waited in the Foyer. Our favorite MMS greeted me and escorted ne to room 7. <Sad news, Sue, Ruby and Mindy are gone – they were not happy so they moved on – (sigh) "only half-hour today? " she said with a raised eyebrow – Yes I replied sadly – "OK, you want shower anyway? " of course – and MMS knowing I would want a shower and bending the "hour for shower" rule is just one indication she is a good manager and appreciates regular clients.
A moment later Joanne comes back with the change. I had not seen her since June (and she knew it). Big hug. Several more – off to the shower.
Table Shower (9/10)
This is my favorite TS place. And I got a full 10 minute massage with the shower (Joanne knows I really like that). She even washed my hair (I had just had it cut). All clean and quite happy we return to the room.
Massage (soft massage only today – and for a soft massage 8+/10)
I had only made a 30 minute appointment – so, soft massage starts on my back. Much enjoyed
Ending (8/10)
Enjoyed.
After. A warm towel – and time to get dressed
Departure & Overall (7+)
I heard the bell ring – she didn't and almost walked me into another client – but no problem – we waited. Then I left (privacy maintained). Water as I left – and a final hug,
She did not look – but I left Ulysses in the room to say thanks. Yes – that is more than usual – and today usual would have been enough – but, they showed me extra consideration.
Therapist:
Age: over 40
Physical: 5'-7", 120#, a wonderful natural shape (all natural and proportional). Black longish hair cut in a traditional square manner (past shoulder length) with bangs
FBAS: 7+ / 9+ / 10 / 8.5
Repeatability: yes
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8 (place shows its' age – but everything is clean.)
Convenience: 10
Discreetness: Professional office complex townhouse parking allows for discrete parking and mostly discrete entry.
I will be away for a month or so (personal and business travel) – be extra nice to the ladies while I am away
PA
BTW – business is very slow right now gentlemen, so do YOUR favorite provider a favor and book an appointment,
I totally agree about the 60 minute massage is twice as nice vs the 30 minute massage. My best massage experiences have come from selecting the 60 minute massage. If you are enjoying your massage, 30 minutes goes by way to quickly! I have always appreciated the table shower before the massage. Sometimes. not often, I have even been offered to finish my massage with a table shower.
The ladies, both independents and amps have also told me that business has been slow lately. I believe they appreciate our business more than we think they do. Enjoy!
OneHitWonders
09-24-09, 00:23
The "older" establishment callled "Dollar Massage" is another couple blocks further south on Gallows above a Vet clinic. That place is a real dump with no real walls, poor environmental controls, and zero extras. And, the one therapist I saw there will sweat profusely during the massage and drip all over you.
"Oriental" is newer, has real walls, but no shower of any kind.
A YMMV situation with respect to extras. Very limited menu. Mostly Chinese therapists.
Your post is right on! I have read that others have enjoyed the "older establishment called "Dollar Massage". Personally, I just dont get it. Being nice, I will say the ladies are friendly (all from China) but the layout of the place is just one of the worst I have ever seen. They have one big room with dividers and no doors! Not very appealing to me at all.
Looking for something in Herndon, saw their ad on CL, it was close. Tina answered the door and collected the fee, she told me I would be handled my Fay.(you can't make this stuff up). Shower stall only, massage was decent, we don't do that here after the flip, +20 for a tip. I read here that Tina wil, fay looks better.compared to Mo's this is sub-par. Any recomendations in Herndon?
Cheers
Always a reader never a writer. But today is different. Went to Crown. Very nice place. First time so just looking. Therapist was Una? Well, nice massage but expected younger in mid twenties (Florida and California that is average age) got mid forties: o Nice TS, nice strong massage. Left a.2 tip.
So what is Nova finish? Is that same as happy ending? (yes or no answer is ok-thanks)Not trying you call you out, but I've been to Crown twice now, and I was not offered a TS. Moreover, I do not recall seeing a table shower at all. All they had was a very impressive looking walk-in shower, and a small sauna. Unless you were taken care off in their walk-in shower? Maybe you are talking about another establishment?
Let me know, because I feel cheated, I thought the TS was not in the menu in Crown.
Harley Dude 29
09-24-09, 21:39
Visited the location on Broad St. in Falls Church recently. I have had mixed results there, but figured I would try it again. Called and told them I was about 5 minutes away. Got there, and a well endowed lady was in the reception area, eating some kinda of stinky food. She agreed to 30 minutes and sent me to a room. It appeared that only one other monger was there, so I got ready for my lady. In walked the lady from the front, so I was very pleased as she had a wonderful set of DD's. She began a so so massage, and and not much sensual about it, even though they advertised the ultimate sensual massage. We had small talk about my past visits and who I saw etc. On the flip, she then asked if I wanted anything else done, and I indicated FS. She asked if I had gotten before and I confirmed, even though that was not the case, and she proceeded to do some weird stuff. She stripped and then started using alcohol wipes to clean me up. Talk about destroying the mood.
She then got on the table, and we commenced our communications. She made some of the most awful faces, and gave the impression that she was totally not impressed.... I also noted a smell of an ass that had not been wiped recently, and that was a real turn off. We tried multiple positions, but her lack of interest and the smell just didn't do it for me. We ended up having her do a HJ and, even then, she said "you only here for 30 minutes, your time is up" WTF. We finished, but that will be my last time at this fine place.
As I left I am sure another monger was exiting via a long route to parking, so hope I didn't ruin your day. Steer clear of this place, even though it does have DC fare in NOVA, it is definintely not top shelf.
Your post is right on! I have read that others have enjoyed the "older establishment called "Dollar Massage".IMHO, if you want a legit massage, perhaps even bringing your lady for a special occasion, this is the place to go. I visit them every week for relaxation. Never disappointed! They have been unfailingly friendly, performed excellent massage at a good price. Talk about value!
If you are looking for extra, then check elsewhere.
Roamin Roman
09-24-09, 23:46
Where should I go to get a great massage in Nova? (nova ending, if available, is a plus)
Try ATMB in Arlingtron. Their ad is in todays post and they are in the Yello Pages. Not hard to find. They are in a old medical building next to a lamp store.I can confirm the accuracy of AKFourtySeven's recommendation.
After my gym workouts, if I have time I usually follow up with a visit to ATMB. They are legit and know the muscle groups to hit. When you call, the manager or his right-hand gal Angie will usually answer. Just ask for an appointment, if you have a preference for a particular therapist, or just walk in. The trouble with walk-ins, though, is that you may have to wait an hour. So, best to book ahead.
RR
After yesterdays' unhappy ending I went to my local fav. Asked for nana, not here anymore, that was quick, I saw her this past Sat. New girl Joy, ok with me. I was in a rush so only a 1/2 hr this time. Joy is 40-something with a full see to small d upstairs, roaming was aloud and the massage after was good too. I left the standard hr tip for a 1/2 hr session, what is recommended?
Cheers
Been traveling a while so was looking forward to seeing my shiny Penny in Sterling again. Called up the place and the MMS hadn't heard of her. I gave a short description (tattoo) and she said Penny was gone. Why is it that the really good ones never last! How many of you guys remember June at HWC?
If you are reading this Penny, please PM me and tell me where you've gone.
Stopped by anyway and my consolation prize was the well reviewed Sunny. Reviews and reports are mostly accurate. Probably a little older than most think and I'm sure she was a knockout 5-10 years ago.
Standard fare and we're off to the TS. Water was hot, nice on a cool day, and the cleaning was car wash thorough. Back to the room for a very good medium massage focused on my shoulders and neck. Conducted from the head of the table providing ample access and roaming was not discouraged. Some more back work, including their signature hot towels and over for the flip. More playful work on the legs and the main event. I simple request in Korean was happily obliged for what seemed like a half hour, until the MMS offered the time check. Quick adjustment to position, suitably covered, and completed in short order.
In all, I was there about a little over an hour. Standard tip was left under the lamp, under the watch and over the equipment brought from home. The tip was never discussed and if checked, it was very discreet. In all the scores are far short of my last visit, but if this is what you're looking for, their service is fully dependable. Face, Body, Service and Attitude 6 / 7 / 5 / 9.
Been traveling a while so was looking forward to seeing my shiny Penny in Sterling again. Called up the place and the MMS hadn't heard of her. I gave a short description (tattoo) and she said Penny was gone. Why is it that the really good ones never last! How many of you guys remember June at HWC?
If you are reading this Penny, please PM me and tell me where you've gone.
Stopped by anyway and my consolation prize was the well reviewed Sunny. Reviews and reports are mostly accurate. Probably a little older than most think and I'm sure she was a knockout 5-10 years ago.Michelle is the new girl there and she's very nice also. I'd like to shake the hand of her doctor I also prefer to go early in the day because as nice as they are, they are tired and it shows in the latter part of the evening.
I'm getting the impression from reading some of these posts that FS is not common at NOVA AMPs. Please tell me I'm mistaken. I'm from Atlanta where FS is always there for the taking.
Computer Luvvv
09-27-09, 01:36
Saw Candi today. Have seen her a few times, the massage was better than avg, the after affects were even better. A little bit above standard nova finish, more is on the menu.
I'm getting the impression from reading some of these posts that FS is not common at NOVA AMPs. Please tell me I'm mistaken. I'm from Atlanta where FS is always there for the taking.Your impression is accurate. NOVA is for the most part rub&tug only. There are exceptions, but usually not worth the time or money. If FS is what you are looking for, DC is the place to be. Much more likely to be worth the extra travel time. IMHO.
Big Daddy Don
09-27-09, 08:51
[QUOTE= How many of you guys remember June at HWC?
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Cute as hell with the big doe eyes!! She was incredible. I remember her well from HWC and Kinja. Wish she would make the rounds again!!!
Neo Man Smith
09-27-09, 14:04
Been traveling a while so was looking forward to seeing my shiny Penny in Sterling again. Called up the place and the MMS hadn't heard of her. I gave a short description (tattoo) and she said Penny was gone. Why is it that the really good ones never last! How many of you guys remember June at HWC?
If you are reading this Penny, please PM me and tell me where you've gone.
Stopped by anyway and my consolation prize was the well reviewed Sunny. Reviews and reports are mostly accurate. Probably a little older than most think and I'm sure she was a knockout 5-10 years ago.
Standard fare and we're off to the TS. Water was hot, nice on a cool day, and the cleaning was car wash thorough. Back to the room for a very good medium massage focused on my shoulders and neck. Conducted from the head of the table providing ample access and roaming was not discouraged. Some more back work, including their signature hot towels and over for the flip. More playful work on the legs and the main event. I simple request in Korean was happily obliged for what seemed like a half hour, until the MMS offered the time check. Quick adjustment to position, suitably covered, and completed in short order.
In all, I was there about a little over an hour. Standard tip was left under the lamp, under the watch and over the equipment brought from home. The tip was never discussed and if checked, it was very discreet. In all the scores are far short of my last visit, but if this is what you're looking for, their service is fully dependable. Face, Body, Service and Attitude 6 / 7 / 5 / 9.I got the same excellent service from sunny. She is amazing, the massage was a little hard but other stuff really good. Just wondering if anybody tried DATY on her. PM me.
I'm getting the impression from reading some of these posts that FS is not common at NOVA AMPs. Please tell me I'm mistaken. I'm from Atlanta where FS is always there for the taking.About the only thing you're going to get in NOVA is a HJ.
I got the same excellent service from sunny. She is amazing, the massage was a little hard but other stuff really good. Just wondering if anybody tried DATY on her. PM me.She really enjoys a massage. One day she had me put the hot towel on her back and give her a hard massage. I'm sure I came out ahead on that deal.
Not trying you call you out, but I've been to Crown twice now, and I was not offered a TS. Moreover, I do not recall seeing a table shower at all. All they had was a very impressive looking walk-in shower, and a small sauna. Unless you were taken care off in their walk-in shower? Maybe you are talking about another establishment?
Let me know, because I feel cheated, I thought the TS was not in the menu in Crown.Sorry, guess I was careless with the abbreviation "TS" ; yes it is just shower and they help -soap etc ; I always use the shower method even when they have a table.
Dadwantsit
09-28-09, 19:37
Went to Kim's the other day for the first time and for some variety. Nice change of pace from Woodbridge. Called in advance and they said no problem, come on over. MM introduced me to a new girl from New York named JoAnn. Tallish, thin with nice storeboughts. Probably around 40 and very friendly. Not very good with english but no biggie. Very nice table shower with no areas left uncleaned. Massage was an honest one hour and I was surprised because her method was sort of unorthodox and I didn't think it was going to be good until she got going. She really gave a terrific massage, not too firm but certainly firm enough and she really worked out the kinks, concentrating on all areas from toes to shoulders with particular attention to back and side of thighs and glutes which I like. Very thorough. Then she turned the firmness into some very very nice soft caresses for a few minutes and then asked me to roll over. More very nice caresses then she got some lotion and immediately went to the right place. She started out slow which I also like a lot. Her touch was experienced and exceptional. She allowed me to raise her shirt and bra and play with her while she worked. Very nice finish. I left her.6 tip telling her while I very much appreciated the finish, that the massage was exceptional. She was very appreciative. The MM on the way out the door was very friendly and even reached down and patted my boys and asked how everything went. Great first time experience and I will definitely be a repeat customer.
Good God, man. Why? The TS is often (or even usually) a place where you can show them you're legit and seeking fun as opposed to a LEO type looking to bust them. Sometimes they'll start the massage and festivities while you're on _that_ table. Besides that, you could really luck out and get a "Sunny Shower." Now that was a good time!
Sorry, guess I was careless with the abbreviation "TS" ; yes it is just shower and they help -soap etc ; I always use the shower method even when they have a table.
Yuengling69
09-28-09, 21:42
Been there a few times. The girls are pleasant, nothing to write home about. Never got anything more than the standard NOVA. Enjoy.
Anyone have anything good to say about this place?
Just found out it exists and am dying to try it out.
Yuengling69
09-28-09, 22:22
I can't remember the name of the little (oldish) lady at 1880, but I can tell you that the trip was good and worth skipping lunch. Well, I did eat at the Y. Anyway, I do know that she has only been in town for about a month, and didn't know that so many places were uptight. She said not to worry, all friends her.
One of my ATFs. Bring back the good ole days!
Hammerin
I'm getting the impression from reading some of these posts that FS is not common at NOVA AMPs. Please tell me I'm mistaken. I'm from Atlanta where FS is always there for the taking.
There used to be establishments in PWC where FS was readily available, but several raids and shut downs over the past two years have eliminated FS from the menu of every AMP I know about.
One of my ATFs. Bring back the good ole days!
HammerinAh yes, the good ole days.
Only had a few from there that disappointed.
One of my ATFs. Bring back the good ole days!
HammerinOh I remember those days, one had a couple of no mentions from there.
Went to Kings in Sterling. Saw Sunny. Really not good looking with lots of makeup but great body. TS was decent and the massage was just as good. Great neck and scalp massage. standard nova with standard tip. I will go back. decent place and it looked like there was another girl that looked just like her.
seniors can get details if want since some have shared tips with me.
Yuengling69
09-30-09, 21:30
Based on some words from a wise monger, I went to see Yumi. The massage was a little to stong for me and I am paying for it today, I'm a little stiff in the neck, but loose everywhere else.
I recommend a visit.
I posted this with details because the guy wwho answered was a real prick; appears to have moved on and expaned in other areas.
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Visited this night and originally set up with a Pleasant, gave me my code and then told me to call when I was near. When I called as I neared a guy was on the phones and what a “D”. Anyway, made it to my appointment at the Vantage @ Merrifield Town Center, 8190 Strawberry Lane, Apt 408.
Was let into the apartment and the selection that I was told I would have to choice from must have dried up and I was left with a older (younger than the AMP usually). She might have been really great about ten years ago. She gave a nice theroputic massage and flipped and ended the theroputic and went to the HJ. Good job there but no more was offered (as I was looking).
The lady, though worth the was not what I was expecting as I was expecting young and latin and a choice of said. The rude phone ass who claimed to be the owner in business for twenty years was a “D” and soured my experience to the point of leaving before entering but…
Your call 410-960-9865!
Had been there before with not-so-great results, but was pushed for time, so I stopped by. Therapist was older, a bit chunky, Nice headlights (w/ a bit of sag).
Good TS, Good Massagee, N++ finish.
If you can't figure it out and I know you, PM.
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A coupleof days ago, I saw Sunny. I told her about Sony-who I saw earlier-and she says that she needs to change her name because everyone mixes up their name. Anyways, Sony was on vacation and so I decided to let her give me the session. I was not dissapointed. She was older and nothing special to look at, but she wasnt ugly. She did have some nice ski slop tits. All I wanted that day was a BJ-however, I wasn't sure if she was into it because she kept saying, next time this next time that. I'll treat you good next time, come back next week when we have a younger girl. I think she was suprised I really wanted to see what she could do. Anyways, she was flattered and gave me an outstanding BJ. It was CBJ first then as I roamed a bit, and let my fingers do the talking, she took off the cover and proceeded with an awesome BBBJ. She let me CIM and off I went. I love this place. Early mornings always seemed the best time IMHO.
Saw Judy at 112 yesterday and it was the best session I've ever had. I have been mongering in the area for the last 5 years and can say without a doubt that Judy is the best provider I've seen. In addition to being "drop-dead gorgeous", her attitude and service was excellent.
Looks: 10
Attitude: 10
Service: 10
Upsell: None
Roamin Roman
10-05-09, 01:22
Stopped by one of the lesser-reviewed NoVa establishments last week, partly for recon purposes and partly because I wanted a decent muscle rubdown after a workout at the gym. In spite of its location, which one would normally expect would give it a higher profile than it has, it took me a couple minutes to find the entrance and make my way to their entrance. The inside of the host facility is non-descript, at least as far as the street entrance, "lobby," and stairwell. Once inside the AMP, though, everything took on the familiar appearance that characterizes most of these establishments.
Arrival & Preliminaries (7.5)
Perhaps because it was I arrived for the last appointment of the night, or perhaps because there was only one therapist there at the time, I had to wait about a minute at the door before someone answered. All the same, Jenny greeted me with a smile, ushered me in, and led me to the room, which was actually a larger room that was sectioned off with one of those folding divider doors. She took the entrance fee (.8) and asked if I wanted a shower.
Shower (7.5. 8)
Even though I had just finished working out and had a shower at the gym, I figured "What the heck?" It was unseasonally cool outside, even for an early Autumn night, and I figured the shower would help warm me up. I was glad I did. Although it was a shower stall, it was modern, roomy, and clean. And, they had hot instead of lukewarm water. I lingered a bit before finishing up and stepping out, whereupon I had to dry myself off and make my way back to the room. (In fairness to the therapist, I believe she was locking the street entrance door and taking care of other things while I was in the shower, so she wouldn't have to attend to them after I left.)
Rubdown (9)
Jenny knows the techniques of her trade. She spent ample time on the back, shoulders, arms, thighs, feet, neck, scalp, and shoulders (again). And, she didn't just rub the muscles in a back-and-forth manner common to manny therapists who really don't know how to give a decent massage/rubdown. She actually worked the muscle groups and worked out the kinks. By the time she asked me to turn over, I felt like a rag doll.
Ending (8.5)
Well, this being a legitimate establishment, they have limits here. However, as it was the end of the night (or maybe it was just my charm, or maybe she had never shaken hands with a Roman Senator), Jenny proceeded to apply oil and begin a very nice finishing technique. And, with a little coaxing, she let me pull down the shoulder straps on her top to expose a nice set of 36Cs. Then, she took over and gave a nice slow handshake for a few minutes, building tension, gradually increasing the rhythm until Little Roman finished filibustering and collapsed from exhaustion, having said his peace.
Departure & Overall (8.5)
Throughout the session, from the moment she began until the moment I left and entered the elevator, Jenny was a bubbly sort who made me feel welcome (in spite of the initial wait at the entrance and the wait after the shower). The facility is clean and, apparently, fairly new. At least it has a newish look to it. The carpet and floors are clean, the shower stall was clean, the room was clean. The don't appear to "recycle" their towels but instead discard them after each customer. As for the tip, I left slightly more than standard (.5), because the massage itself was superlative and because (per Jenny's own words) it had been a slow day. In spite of the overall good quality of this place, I doubt that guys like Bradley1 or Xsham would like it, so I won; t recommend it to them. To all others, if you want a good legitimate massage at the end of a hard day or after a rigorous workout, this might just fit the bill nicely.
Therapist
Age: Late 20s or early 30s
Physical: ~ 5'-8", 130#, natural 36Cs, curly dark hair, not slim but not thick
FBAS: 8 / 7.5 / 9 / 9
Repeatability: 8.5
Facilities
Cleanliness: 9.5
Convenience: 10
Discreetness: 7.5
Hours: 10am-11pm
Since this place is located in a place that also houses other businesses, and because the jurisdiction it's located in probably doesn't want an AMP to have a very high profile (even as the jurisdiction might tacitly accept that AMPs will exist within its boundaries), I've refrained from providing the name and address. Interested trusted members who know me can PM me for more info. Responses to all others will be based on a review of their post histories.
Saw Judy at 112 yesterday and it was the best session I've ever had. I have been mongering in the area for the last 5 years and can say without a doubt that Judy is the best provider I've seen. In addition to being "drop-dead gorgeous", her attitude and service was excellent.
Looks: 10
Attitude: 10
Service: 10
Upsell: NoneWas she asian?
Can you please provide cost of the service?
I've been traveling to South American for a few years so I never looked around NOVA for any massages. Now that my SA days are over for a while, I'm pleased to find an active forum here. I had no idea there was so much available. And English is so much easier to read than Portuguese. I never heard of a table shower until I read a few posts-sounds wonderful. Anyway, I'm looking for a good deep tissue massage that's just a little bit naughty at the finish. Alexandria, Arlington, as close to the river as possible.
Yak
I'm brand new to the forum, but I did some rummaging through old posts and found a small listing for another newbie. While researching them I ran across this webpage that contained several of them, so I'm figuring the others are similar.
http://www.spahunters.com/spas/Virginia/
Yak-
Made an appointment, and drove to this place.
The establishment is smaller than other spas I've visited, but feels very welcoming and very clean. Was led to a room by the receptionist who has very pronounced headlights, and then viet "Genie" walked in when I was ready, definitely more attractive than most therapist in NOVA.
Therapy was good, soft to medium, and with a little sensual touch. On the flip she spent plenty of time on my thighs and hips. And then for the finale.
This is where she was great, no rush, took her time. Very, very slow but magical touch. Was allowed to roam, but the curtains were not pulled down, hinted they could be pulled down for more complements. Took me almost 20 mins, because she was deliberately going very slow to, which led to the most intense release of stress I've ever hard in therapy. I will definitely repeat.
Roamin Roman
10-06-09, 01:36
Rather than visit DC, I decided to explore some other spots around NoVa where intel has indicated promising results. Thus, I found myself in an area not generally known for AMPs, and again near the time of "last appointment." This is the report of my findings.
Arrival & Preliminaries (8)
When I rang the doorbell I only had to wait about 10 seconds before the mamasan came to answer. She took me to the room and asked if I had been there before. Even though this was the first time, I told her it had been about 3 months since my last visit. She took the .8 door feetold me to undress, and departed. Everything was efficient, but not rushed or businesslike.
Shower (9)
This place has a TS, and they don't use lukewarm water (which I hate) but honest-to-goodness hot water. My therapist warmed up the table, before having me lie down on it, and then proceeded to give me a thorough handwash (sans wash cloth). Her English skills were good enough, and we talked throughout the shower. In fact, things got a little playful during the wash, and afterwards when she was drying me off. She was wearing a stretch Lycra one-piece bikini-type outfit that had see-through mesh down the middle, covering the important points. It's amazing how easy a pair of nipple can pop out from their hiding place sometimes. (They were brown, about quarter-sized, with tips that would eventually prove capable of protruding to about 3/8" of an inch.) She finished drying me off, with her left nipple poking out above the hemline, and we headed back to the room.
Not exactly a massage (9)
I honestly don't know what her massage technique is like. I should have just gone ahead and let her work the muscles for a while, but once we got back to the room things heated up fairly quickly. (So, shame on me.) Her nipples popped out again and it was just a natural progression that her top came down a bit to expose a pair of enhanced globular 36Cs. After giving a kiss to both, I lifted her onto the table to take another taste and give her a brief, "targeted" massage. But, before things got too heated, she stopped me and asked if I "want everything." If so, she needed to go get some supplies rather than having to step out halfway into the massage session. No mention of arrangements, however, which I thought was a classy touch.
She came back in about 2 minutes, stripped completely, and got back onto the table, whereupon we proceeded to discuss integers in the high 60s for about 15 minutes. During that time, she seemed to catch her breath a couple times and also managed to subtly apply a cover. Then, it was onto other modes of communication. She is a decent DFK-er, which rates high on my list. (In fact, given the choice of a girl with 32As who's got good DFK skills, or a girl with 40Ds who doesn't, I'll choose the former over the latter 97 times out of 100.) Well, this all lasted for another 20 minutes, with me occasionally slowing down to enjoy the whole experience, until I could hold out no longer. As the Greaseman would say: "Shangri-La !" (BTW, she is quite flexible.)
As I was horizontal, facing down, I got up and retrieved tissue for both of us. Then, she went to get a washcloth and returned, along with some minty Scope. I got dressed, and we talked at some length. I found that she'll be here for a couple more months before heading back to her home base. (She wants to do a couple non-AMP related activities beforehand.)
Departure & Overall (9.5)
She never mentioned any tip throughout the session. When I provided $, although she was hoping for $.2 ("No problem, honey; bring next time.") She then walked me to the door, offered me a piece of candy, and - just before I stepped out - she reached up, grabbed me behind my head, and gave me a big DFK. Will I be back? I sure plan to make a return visit, and I'll ask for her again.
Therapist
Age: Mid 40s or early 50s, but at first glance looks to be late 30s
Physical: ~ 5'-5", 105#, enhanced 36Cs, sensitive nips, short straight styled hair, no flab but fading stretch marks apparent, trimmed below
FBAS: 8 / 8.5 / 9 / 9
Repeatability: 8.5
Facilities
Cleanliness: 9.5
Convenience: 10
Discreetness: 7.5
Hours: 10am-11pm
I'm somewhat surprised this place is located where it is, smack in the middle of the business district. Trusted members with a solid history of good intel (not just quick replies, cutesy remarks, or the like) can PM me for more info. Others may have to bide their time. Sorry, amigos, but for this one I'm not going to jeopardize things by giving too much info away for general distribution.
R::R
Have fun at the forum
Ok I can't seem to find a review of this place (new place in Sterling by Drainsville) and not sure thats even the right name.
I'm willing to TTOFT but was just hoping to get some insite to the place before I try it out.
Thanks in advance
I had my usual fishing trip to the Chesapeake Bay, and with the colder weather setting upon us, had my regular chocolatey drink.
As always, got my usual services, above and beyond nova standards and finally reached some French kissing with her. My only complaint was that, I assume, a big time spender, regular client had walked in about 30 minutes into my session and requested my provider so there was a little talking outside the door between my provider and mamasan and my provider cut short my session by about 15 to 20 minutes. I gave her my number to call me later on. On the plus side, she did just that and said she was sorry for the other day about cutting my session short. I'm in for a special treat next time, she says, so let's see what next time brings.
Ok I can't seem to find a review of this place (new place in Sterling by Drainsville) and not sure thats even the right name.
I'm willing to TTOFT but was just hoping to get some insite to the place before I try it out.
Thanks in advance
I've been there twice.
One visit was average, good massage, good attitude, good finish.
Second visit was one of the worst AMP experiences I've ever had. Waited a long time after being promised the girl I saw during the first visit. Moved between rooms twice. Different girl showed up. Bad massage. Cold wet towels. Frantic pace. In and out of the room four times. Shorted on time. No finish.
No TS as far as I know.
Pilot Aviator
10-06-09, 22:42
Pilot Aviator will be pulling chocks this window for an extended trip.- so before the back-cracking seats can herniate one of my discs, I decided for a pre-departure massage at my favorite NoVA location.
Arrival & Preliminaries (10/10)
I called ahead ("Of course you can have an appointment tonight") and arrived just a little early. MMS was waiting for the bell to ring, took me by the hand, grabbed me a water (and a little-butt cheek) and escorted me to Room 6.
"One hour with shower.-- OK.-" and I paid the house 0.8. "Mona will be right in.- short on girls right now"
I had met Mona but not had her massage me before. Mona is a fairly standard in size and appearance and age Korean lady.
Table Shower (7.5/10)
Fairly average TS.- but some good massage on the back of the legs and arms. Good warm water. All clean without much fluff or extra time spent.
Massage (9/10)
Better than many places and many ladies! A real therapeutic treat.- deep where it should be deep / medium to soft where that is appropriate Very hot towels and back walking included.
Ending (7/10)
Average but enjoyable.
After. Another warm towel
Departure & Overall (9)
More massage to fill out the hour (I do like the after massage for those that offer). It included 5 minutes of my work on her back (calm down boys.- it was neck and shoulders only with a towel between since Mona was sweaty and therefore was reluctant to accept skin contact.
Standard tip left by the lamp as usual to say "thank you"
It was very quiet. There was on other client on-site when I arrived. He departed without fanfare.- the place was empty of clients as I departed.
Therapist:
Age: over 40
Physical: 5'-5", 130#, Black medium length hair (put up in a pony tail with a clip as the massage started.
FBAS: 7 / 8 / 8 / 8
Repeatability: Mona and I did not really click.- so, most likely I would ask for one of the other ladies if available, but I would not make a fuss.
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8 (everything is clean.)
Convenience: 10 (well at least for me)
Discreetness: Professional office complex townhouse parking allows for discrete parking and mostly discrete entry.
I won't be back until mid-November. Be nice to the ladies while I am away.
PA
Cranberries
10-07-09, 01:15
I saw her. She's probably better looking than 99% of what's left in NOVA but a 10? No way, most girls in DC are better looking than her. But. I was surprised with her work. However with the $80 house fee, DC's still cheaper.
I went back to one of my favorites in Tysons and asked for Julie but got a new girl named Candi. She came from another NOVA AMP but wouldn't tell me which one. TS was very good and thorough. Massage was light at first then bone crushing hard and I had to tell her to lighten up a bit. She is a little chunky and I was concerned about her back walking but that actually was fine. On the flip standard finish in Nova with plenty of roaming. Overall not bad but if I go back I will call ahead and make an appointment for Julie although MMS's don't always honor appointments they say sure and when you get there she is either busy or not working today and you are already there and most likely paid the house fee.
Guys, thought I would take the advice of the more experienced members on this board and investigate the local talent and offer my reviews. Had the cash and the motivation to visit two local establishments recently with widely varying experiences. At 4229 although Ann the attendant was much better looking she was very cautious with me, never having seen me before and suspicious of my claim that I had been there before. Facility was impeccable and discreet. Attendant explained that second visit would be much more productive and I will return to investigate.112 was the opposite. What was lacking in facility and attendant appearance was more than made up in attitude and performance. Will also return.
Richmond Monger
Been viewing the board for years (as far back to the old site) but this is my first post.
Just a heads up that I paid a visit to a board favorite in my neck of the woods (King) in LOCO and they've added a new member to their team. Michelle. Probably late 30's/early 40's. Decent but nothing spectacular. Still happier with Sunny and Candy but still nice for a little variety.
Was earlier in the day so not as great as past visits but still worth the time. Only complaint I have about that place every single time is their choice of music and how loud they keep it. It gets to me everytime. But luckily that's my only complaint so I can get over it.
Norm Leone
10-10-09, 17:03
Nail Salon in Falls Church had $50/hr advertised. Went for $30 for half.
Nice looking girl. Was led to massage room, no sheet on the table. Did not take money up front. Lay down uncovered. Told woman no oil, just a soft massage. Woman teased me mercilessly, I couldn't stay lying face down on the table. No roaming (touched covered leg and butt, but no covered tits, which were real nice). She brushed the parts some, but no NOVA finish (I asked, placed hand, asked again). She said I could finish myself while she touched. I did, then she cleaned up.
Paid at register as I left. $30+$20 tip.
Has anyone had more success at place like this?
Norm Leone
10-10-09, 17:07
Had a half hour deep tissue massage ($45). GREAT massage, a little tease, but nothing else, still the same; that was okay since I went for the massage. Total $65.
Guitarman1
10-11-09, 00:08
Visited NSP early last week. I had a good/typical experience for the location. Girl was not young but not old. The plastic surgeon who did her fake headlights did a pretty good job. I couldn't tell they were fake until I felt them.
Guitarman1
10-11-09, 00:11
I just got back from Kim's and had a good time. Usual greeting from Angie who is always friendly. I can't remember the girls name. She was older but had a nice body. Good thorough shower. Good massage with back walking. Standard finish. The usual good experience I've come to expect at this location.
Went out there again last week, still remembering the best TS ever from a little spinner that is nameless. MS answers, and she's almost 90, but looks closer to 100, and just nasty. I describe my girl to her, and she says 'yea sure, she here' , I tell her that I'll come get my .8 back if it's not her...after 8 minutes, some other chick comes in, young, maybe 22, but really good english, for a change.
But she's not flirty at all, massage was average, and standard finish 'you place my hand' crap. What a waste. I think they might have been busted a couple weeks ago.
I need to move on.
Max Beelyun
10-12-09, 22:32
I went to Maple Ave today, saw Mimi. Not the same Mimi I had before -- I think they changed ownership and the whole staff has turned over. Not much of a massage, and the rest was what I would have expected in DC. Very nice. Total price was 40 more than DC though...I would have balked but she didn't whine, and she really was good, and we definitely went over the hour by a significant amount, so I figured she deserved it. Will go back when I'm feeling wealthier.
Banker Boy
10-13-09, 09:25
If you've been around long enough (which isn't very long) to know what K Accupressure is in Chantilly, you should know they have a relatively new provider, Yo-Yo, who seems to have a lot more on the menu than the standard NoVA fare. She's mid-to-high 30s but not bad looking, and nominally in-shape. After the standard TS and barely-adequate massage, she asked how much I'd pay. In 11 years of mongering in this area, I've never gotten that question, which told me everything I wanted to know. $100 later (sorry guys, that's the way I roll), I walked away a happy, smiling, very surprised man (and geekily enough, was thinking of posting here for the first time in years as I walked to my car; you guys need to stay out of my brain!).
If you got it all $ is definitely a fare thank you to a lady for showing she cars to allow you to enter her palace. I just wish more would stick to that practice. No over tipping, it ruins it for all!
If you've been around long enough (which isn't very long) to know what K Accupressure is in Chantilly, you should know they have a relatively new provider, Yo-Yo, who seems to have a lot more on the menu than the standard NoVA fare. She's mid-to-high 30s but not bad looking, and nominally in-shape. After the standard TS and barely-adequate massage, she asked how much I'd pay. In 11 years of mongering in this area, I've never gotten that question, which told me everything I wanted to know. $100 later (sorry guys, that's the way I roll), I walked away a happy, smiling, very surprised man (and geekily enough, was thinking of posting here for the first time in years as I walked to my car; you guys need to stay out of my brain!).
Dadwantsit
10-14-09, 17:42
On my way of town and stopped by kim's for a quick massage. Another new girl (Cindy I think), 40ish, very thin. TS was adequate. Massage wasn't anything special. Spent a lot of time on back of legs and glutes. Also lots of time spent playing with the boys which was nice. Standard NOVA finish, standard tip. Overall nice experience but some younger girls would be nice.
A new AMP in PWC. Any intel out there? Not really a fan of PWC.
Backpage, please
NC Transplant
10-16-09, 10:24
A Bareback AMP? I have never been in one of those? Most of those are extra clean.
I've decided to follow in the footsteps of my mentor, Doctor Pussy, and retire from the game.
But not without some good parting intel on a NoVa amp not really reviewed here.
The pictures tell the rest.
I will check my PMs once more next week and respond accordingly.
Bubb an Banks
10-16-09, 18:32
Once a BD doubter, I have become a believer of his reports
LatinaLover77
10-16-09, 20:05
Once a BD doubter, I have become a believer of his reports
I too believe. I had some doubt but I didn't vote for banning him either. He's given some useful information. Gotta say BD, it's a shame you're signing off. You gave good intel last time.
Many doubted him on a previous report but I trusted and he came through. Nice looking and LOVING!
A Bareback AMP? I have never been in one of those? Most of those are extra clean.
Phaik Naim
10-17-09, 10:50
Stopped by Shiatsu and it's gone. Interior was in the process of being demo'd as I was there. As I was leaving, a K woman approached me and told me Shiatsu had a new owner and there would be a "grand opening" in a few weeks (she might have said it would be called Golden, not sure). She then directed me to Pine Tree, which is right next door. Having been standing outside with her for what I considered to be too long, I declined and split.
She said Lisa / Connie had left. Sounded like whoever this woman was, she and Lisa / Connie didn't get along. Whatever - not for me to get involved in AMP politics - I got along with her just fine. If anyone knows where she's landed, please PM me and let me know.
-PN
I am surprised that there would be doubters. This is more common than some think, apparently. I have a couple girls (obviously every girl in every AMP will not do this. And usually only with certain regulars) who will regularly do BBFS in NYC.
I lived in Hawaii in the mid 90s and it was COMMON for AMP girls to do BBFS. They didn't want to get caught with condoms was what they said. That has changed though. San Francisco is the closest scene to this currently. The girls there are NASTY and will do what it takes to get big tips.
Many doubted him on a previous report but I trusted and he came through. Nice looking and LOVING!
A Bareback AMP? I have never been in one of those? Most of those are extra clean.
I am another testament to BD. He is providing us with real facts and not lies. I'm suprised on how many guys here doubt him with so many of us confirming his finds. BD-thanks for all the intel.
I am surprised that there would be doubters. This is more common than some think, apparently. I have a couple girls (obviously every girl in every AMP will not do this. And usually only with certain regulars) who will regularly do BBFS Exactly. Not many, but some ladies would do BBFS, especially older ones who care nothing but tips. I have had that in several AMPs, e.g. two in Sterling where I live.You know them, Aroma and Green.
Phaik Naim
10-17-09, 14:46
Went to Panera place recently, asked for a 30-minute from the receptionist. I've only seen Kelly before, and I wanted to see what the well-endowed receptionist was like.
Massage itself was average-to-subpar. After we got that over with, it turned into one of the odder experiences I've had. On the flip, asked me if I wanted anything more - I did. I ordered "off-menu" for NOVA. She agreed. Before moving on, she extensively prepared things, to the point where I felt like I was going to be served over rice or something. Lots of spraying, wiping, getting extra things ready. Maybe the food analogy wasn't right, maybe it was more like prep for surgery.
Once the prep was done, everything went very, very nicely. Outside roaming allowed. Was told at the end that now that we knew each other, more fun could be had on subsequent visits. Then a semi-lecture about stopping at CVS and getting some of those individual sanitary towelettes.
Weird.
On the plus side, this girl is obviously concerned (almost to a fault) with hygiene - which could certainly be seen as a plus in AMP-land.
I will certainly repeat.
On a completely different note, there are 2 things I read on this board over and over which I believe not to be true. First, "there are no FS places in NOVA." Simply false - I can think of at least a half-dozen. Some I've been to, some I haven't - the ones I haven't are revealed by very well-written reports which give the appropriate signals between the lines - you just have to know how to read in the white spaces. Second, that "you're more likely to get extras in an hour session than in a 30-minute session." To the extent that this might be true, it only holds for the first visit or two. After that, I find that telling the girl "I've only got 30 minutes today" results in no loss of extras. I've even told girls this on the very first visit, with no dilution in what was offered.
That's all.
I've decided to follow in the footsteps of my mentor, Doctor Pussy, and retire from the game.
But not without some good parting intel on a NoVa amp not really reviewed here.
The pictures tell the rest.
I will check my PMs once more next week and respond accordingly.BD is the man! His reports are legit.
Another time ago in NY the supervisor of the KMP would encourage the new girls to do BB services. I remember asking for a gorl who had moved on; being a regular the super said she had something special for me. I said I was not in the mood for another because I was looking for the BBBJ, before FS the other provided.
She directed me to try. She brought me a young, bearly 20 cutie who provided me BB everything even though I only asked for BBBJ. I think the communication with the supervisor was flawed.
But that was about 7 year ago and this in 2009 and I do not thin NY even gives that. For here, the girls and the supervision change so quickly, once you find one you like she is gone too soon.
The old days!
I am surprised that there would be doubters. This is more common than some think, apparently. I have a couple girls (obviously every girl in every AMP will not do this. And usually only with certain regulars) who will regularly do BBFS in NYC.
I lived in Hawaii in the mid 90s and it was COMMON for AMP girls to do BBFS. They didn't want to get caught with condoms was what they said. That has changed though. San Francisco is the closest scene to this currently. The girls there are NASTY and will do what it takes to get big tips.
Guitarman1
10-18-09, 12:36
I do not believe we are supposed to discuss safety and whether or not BBFS is worth the risks here.
I will say that BBFS from a girl BD has done it with is different than just asking a provider and getting it on your own. We all know that BirdDropping does BB just about every time he sees a provider, even by force in some cases. He has gotten BBFS probably countless times and the odds of him having and spreading some STD are extremely high. So getting BBFS from a girl that he has previously gone BB with is a whole new level of risk.
I also suggest everyone else who may have commented about the same subject delete theirs as well.
JJ
Norm Leone
10-18-09, 14:50
I know we aren't supposed to talk about safe sex practices,but all this BB talk is just going to give the LE another reason to crack down on our favorite places. This is snowballing from pm's to open discussions. Next, names and places will be in the open. Before more damage is done,can it go back to the pm's? Not passing judgment, its your life.
The Rules essentially say "Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. "
Discussion of safe sex practices not allowed regarding a particular forum member.
Norm
Exactly. Not many, but some ladies would do BBFS, especially older ones who care nothing but tips. I have had that in several AMPs, e.g. two in Sterling where I live.You know them, Aroma and Green.This is not cool.
I do not believe we are supposed to discuss safety and whether or not BBFS is worth the risks here.
I will say that BBFS from a girl BD has done it with is different than just asking a provider and getting it on your own. We all know that BirdDropping does BB just about every time he sees a provider, even by force in some cases. He has gotten BBFS probably countless times and the odds of him having and spreading some STD are extremely high. So getting BBFS from a girl that he has previously gone BB with is a whole new level of risk.
Guitarman1, I agree with you 100%. The risk are extremely high. I for one would never knowingly want to have sex with a massage girl that Bird Dropping has had to force BBFS upon. There are some mongers out there that have diseases (that cannot be cured) and they are very bitter. They have no qualms,morals or ethics about spreading these diseases to women in hopes that it would spread to other men. This BBFS that they insist on having with these women is their way of exacting revenge to us all if we do not protect ourselves.
Propilot-Always check your six.
AKFourtySeven
10-19-09, 10:16
This is what I practice.Wash it off and take a piss.You could carry a wipe with you.Remember HWC,they used to offer an alcohol rub after?I'm circumsized which is supposed to protect aganst stds.Those of you who are not should peel back the foreskin and clean thouroughly.BTW, I usually wear a raincoat.
I thought we were going to go on with assistin each other find Ms. Right Now and get off the topic of should I like and do BB or not to do BB. This is a preference that should remain to each his own.
My last cent; I like it but I do not have a wife or girl to take anything home to. Sorry to comment AKFourtySeven and other who gave health advise, I hope you are not teaching health Ed to the young'ins. If you risk you might come down with something. No washing or anti will eliminate the possibility. This is like saying if you do it standing up she will not get pregnant or if she douces after she will not get pregant.
If you enjoy any type BB, this is your thing but do not think it is without risk.
Can we go on now and respect each others personal likes.
This is what I practice.Wash it off and take a piss.You could carry a wipe with you.Remember HWC,they used to offer an alcohol rub after?I'm circumsized which is supposed to protect aganst stds.Those of you who are not should peel back the foreskin and clean thouroughly.BTW, I usually wear a raincoat.
This whole thing has gotten unbelievable.
I cleaned my hands after doing something, why in the world after having any kind of sexual contact would anyone not cleaned their tool thoroughly. WTF
Saw her ad in CL. She had a warm husky voice on the phone - so I made an appointment. This is the report of my findings.
Arrival & Preliminaries (3)
When I rang the doorbell I had to wait for 10 minutes and 2 phone calls before she opened the door. Se looked older than in the CL ad pic. Looked like a Filipina to me. But I found later, she was a South American. It was a cold evening and I had come a long way, so I braved on.
She took me upstairs to the bedroom. Very tropical feel. Lots of color and plants.
Had to pay upfront. $.20.
Shower (2)
I asked for a shower and she showed the bathroom with a shower stall - which was clean. The water was hot and I had to shower myself.
Not exactly a massage (4)
Her massage technique was very interesting. She spent 10 minutes just rubbing me in circles. I asked her if I could get a hard massage, and she said she could give me a Thai massage. So, I had my back walked, legs and arms folded into pretzels, and some massage stuff I had not experienced before. But, my body felt loose.
Next, she asked me to flip and gave me a hard massage on neck, shoulders and legs.
She then got some oil and started working on Jr. I asked her if I could get a CBJ. She said no but after some persuasion she wanted .40 more. I bargained down to .20 more and she wanted it right away. I gave it and she started. No great technique. But she had great hair and the sight of her head bobbing up and down was something. I finished in time.
Departure & Overall (4)
I took a second shower and she helped me get dressed.
I left soon enough. No hugs. The whole time had a mechanical feel to it.
Therapist
Age: Mid 40s
Physical: ~ 5'-2", 105#, long curly styled hair
Facilities
Cleanliness: 8
Convenience: 5
Discreetness: 7
Hours: 10am-9pm
Two disclaimers: 1) did not get TS, 2) the second AMP I have been two
Easy to find. Was meet by a tall lady, and brought into a room. The room was very private and a little warm. Bit awkward at first, but gave her the $60 door fee. She left and came back in. Left tip on the chair.
She had me lay face down, proceeded to do a light massage on my back, did not work it very long till she had me turn over. Was disappointed at how long she actually massaged my back as it needed work.
The end of the massage was nice.
I will assume I made two errors. 1) did not get TS 2) was new to their spa.
May try it again with the TS and hopefully they will recognize me and offer better service.
Overall I would recommend giving it a shot.
Been there couple days ago. Nice place, clean, nice shower room, nice hot sauna. Tina was the provider. Bit older, 40-45, face looked good, little spare tire arround waist. TS okay, had better in other places, massage great, she asked if I like walk on back, I said yes. She actually walked on my whole body except head. Finish kinda rough, like someone said before, shake spraypaint can, it took her long time. Will probably repeat, if in the area, but ask for someone else.My last visit to Rainbow was perhaps a year ago, or more. I had thought that it had closed, but saw an advert on CL just recently, so whilst in the area, stopped in. The mms started the TS and was doing a fine job when the actual massuse, Suzi (30-ish), came in and took over. On the "turn over", Willie was quickly covered with a washcloth. As the water was tepid, at best, not high marks for the TS. Suzi has a bobbed hairdo, and is perhaps a key or more than I prefer, though overall looks are about a 7. Heavy cloth T-shirt top and sturdy denim shorts.competent massage and took direction well. Absolutely no roaming allowed.- none. That said, the HE was quite happy, a cut above, and no discussion of tip, upsell, etc. I left standard tip. It was a 65 minute hour.- bravo. No help dressing, no water or sweet. So.- a good outing but not outstanding. Probably won't be back for quite a while again.
AKFourtySeven
10-23-09, 15:17
Where i8s Rainbow?
It sounds familiar.
But I can't place it.
Returning to the hobby after a bit of am absence -- don't ask! -- I have been torturing myself imagining an awesome four-hands experience.
Anyone have any luck in any of the NoVA places getting a fourhand massage?
Went to Greens in sterling. Walked to the room by an attractive young woman but she did a bait and switch after I paid with Suzy who was older but well proportioned. I still rather have the other girl. The TS was excellent and very through with a light massage there. She was very talkative and fun.
The massage was again GREAT. She did a real thai massage with stretches and bending me all over. The flip was just not so great. I thought she was gonna yank junior out of his socket and beat my grapes into wine. Really it was that bad.
Overall the experience was good and repeat but I hope she settles the final act down a bit. Im not into S/M
The one you saw walking in was most likely the "Therapist". She does not usually partake or provide. It has to be really busy to get there.
If this was yesterday and she was wearing a blue tank top, that is the situation. I was there yesterday when someone walked in on me. I had the young looking but I think 40 something (she claims to have been in the US for 20 years but still has accent) and she was OK but not Kay; who I would love to romp with. She looks so sweet.
The other one there look nicer, a little chunkier (not heavy just CHUNKIER that the skinny skinny I met with) but still in nice shape with a good looking face and appears to have a nice personality.
Went to Greens in sterling. Walked to the room by an attractive young woman but she did a bait and switch after I paid with Suzy who was older but well proportioned. I still rather have the other girl. The TS was excellent and very through with a light massage there. She was very talkative and fun.
The massage was again GREAT. She did a real thai massage with stretches and bending me all over. The flip was just not so great. I thought she was gonna yank junior out of his socket and beat my grapes into wine. Really it was that bad.
Overall the experience was good and repeat but I hope she settles the final act down a bit. Im not into S/M
Went to Kings in Sterling. Saw Sunny. Really not good looking with lots of makeup but great body. TS was decent and the massage was just as good. Great neck and scalp massage. standard nova with standard tip. I will go back. decent place and it looked like there was another girl that looked just like her.
seniors can get details if want since some have shared tips with me.Planning to go there , but dont know what is standard NOVA tip and and what is included in Standard NOVA Service.
Help the monger
A search on NOVA revealed many posts addressing the issue on such post is #2430;
look at it but my request to you is keep tipping to a deserving. Do not stiff average service and also do not over tip for anything no above and beyond.
Raising the prices has not proved to raise the service. As I have experienced and read, only putting time, being personable and a chemestry really gets the way above board service.
The more you give above the norm does not always mean more service only an expectation that you will pay more the next time.
Enjoy
Planning to go there , but dont know what is standard NOVA tip and and what is included in Standard NOVA Service.
Help the monger
I finally made back to your area and paid a visit to King. I rang the buzzer and asked for Sunny but was told it was her day off. I paid Mama .8 for the hour and Michelle, who has been written about before, came to the room. She's older with nice c-cup tatas. When she asked if I'd been there before I said yes and told her how much I loved Sunny and she seemed slightly offended but then smiled and said the she'd make me forget Sunny. Sweet, I love it when they take it as a challenge.
Well, she asked me how I liked massage and I said "hard". Big mistake...I thought she was going to kill me. Her definition of hard and mine are way out of sync. After she lightened up a bit, it was a pretty good massage.
On the flip, I sampled the full service menu. She didn't make me forget Sunny but after all was said and done, I wasn't upset Sunny was off that day.
Hopefully, I'll make another trip up north soon.
Also, that area gets dark, so just to be safe, you better take some protection with you when you visit.
I finally visited King Therapy today, and saw Sunny. I'm guessing mid-to late-30s, but well maintained, and good body. Excellent attitude and service.
Table shower was thorough, but a bit mechanical and finished with a spritz of cold water - little distracting. Massage was decent - nice use of elbows, and roaming allowed, but my preference is a bit harder.
Finish was very good, and included some enthusiastic acting on her part. After finish I'm used to getting rushed out at most AMPs, but she laid down with me a cuddled up for the remainder of the hour, which was a pleasant surprise. Only downside was a suggestion that I should tip more next time (I tipped $.)
F/B/A/S: 7/8/9/8
All in all, one of the better AMP girls I've had and a definite repeat. PM if you want details.
Where i8s Rainbow?
It sounds familiar.
But I can't place it.
Its right off of Chain Bridge in Vienna.
This newish AMP is tucked into a corner off of Rt 7, been open about 2 months.
Advertising in CL. Suni answered (go figure). She was by herself.
No TS.
Clean, real quiet, just me and her.
$.7 for the hour.
She kept me draped.
Good massage, elbows as well, but used her thumb to actually enflame a shoulder muscle, I told her, and she hit it again...damn.
I asked for a light feathery massage for the finish, which she did, finally removing the towel from my &ss , but on the flip the drape came back on.
No NOVA finish, left $.1 tip. Won't go back probably.
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