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Roamin Roman
03-25-09, 18:18
Both of those places that were closed were terrible, so no big loss to anyone on the forums.... The one by 7 corners was actually reported on once here and none of the therapists themselves were Asians, just the mamasan.
Don't know where you're getting your information, Sham, but the 7 Corners location was almost completely Asian. As for the quality of those locations, that's a matter of opinion. I was (and am) of the view that both locations gave good service.
I went back to this location in Sterling, because I saw advertising and I wanted to check it out. Everything's the same only ladies are much much younger and prettier. Michelle was my provider. Very pretty. There are a few things that surprise me a little. During the shower(stand up), she asked me to wash myself on some places, in the room she gave good strong massage, but towards the end the other girl came in, Michelle left and the other actually finished me. Did anybody received same service?
Just curious, it could be standard procedure there.
Randy Farang
03-26-09, 10:41
I totally agree with our nobel Roman, at least one of these places has been mentioned in the past on this forum. And while it was almost exclusively Korean, I know that there were exceptions. (I have been a fairly regular exception over the years.)
This was always a very low key, very under the radar establishment. But I was always well satisfied with the service. I didn't share information about it because the mamasan, whom I have long considered a friend, asked me not to share.
Many years ago, at least a decade, she occasionally advertised in the Post, but in recent years the place has been absolutely stealth. And I suspect the story of it being ratted out by a pissed off wife is probably true.
And let that be a lesson to us all. Anyone dumb enough to brag to his wife about his extracurricular activities is likely to not only get himself cut off from pussy, but can easily cut off all the So when it comes to our hobby, just STFU when it comes to wives, girlfriends, or people who can't keep their mouths shut.
AKFourtySeven
03-26-09, 10:54
I remember trying to find that place to no avail.
I saw an ad in the Post.DId the Seven Corners place advertise as Moonlight Spa?
I couldn't find that place either.
I went back to this location in Sterling, because I saw advertising and I wanted to check it out. Everything's the same only ladies are much much younger and prettier. Michelle was my provider. Very pretty. There are a few things that surprise me a little. During the shower(stand up), she asked me to wash myself on some places, in the room she gave good strong massage, but towards the end the other girl came in, Michelle left and the other actually finished me. Did anybody received same service?
Just curious, it could be standard procedure there.Probably your terapist had a previous appt and a pinch hitter was sent in.
PC out
Silver Tongue
03-26-09, 15:40
Got a great massage from Yong last Friday after finding out that Sara at one of the places on Backlick was out. Now that I am becoming a regular, Yong is opening up a tad more after the flip. She did do something really awkward though that I guess she thought I would like. PM me and I'll share.
Has anyone been to FairCo or Soft Touch recently? They are in my vicenity and want to check them out. Fairco seems to be closed a lot though.It has been a couple of months but all I have from Soft Therapy is good memories. The place was clean, nice table shower, clean room, good finish. I hope it hasn't closed down.
That would be a major bummer.
Andrewsted
03-26-09, 15:55
I was there a few weeks ago and did not do the shower thing. I was there when they were running the $50 special ($10 off). I do not know mytherapists name. She was not as cute as the receptionist. My therepists was there from start to finish.
I went back to this location in Sterling, because I saw advertising and I wanted to check it out. Everything's the same only ladies are much much younger and prettier. Michelle was my provider. Very pretty. There are a few things that surprise me a little. During the shower(stand up), she asked me to wash myself on some places, in the room she gave good strong massage, but towards the end the other girl came in, Michelle left and the other actually finished me. Did anybody received same service?
Just curious, it could be standard procedure there.
I have RTFF and I don't mind sharing information. Isn't what this forum is for? So I would like to help some of the new guys out.
Here's a couple answers to the most frequent requests.
Mike Ono's or MO's refers to Kim's Spa on Hempstead Way off Backlick Road in Springfield. The name comes from a time long ago when it was called "Mykonos Spa". There is a McDonalds nearby (on Backlick) so you will often see references to that in a post. It's in an office park type complex on the lower level. Look for the sign. (Back set of buildings, all the way on the left).
CCs stand for "Chinese Condos". It's not one place, but a collection of independent operations primarily in the Tysons Corner area. You can RTFF all you want and you will never get a phone number or address. Just some random numbers that make no sense without context. I suggest you log on to The Erotic Review (I think you can figure out the url). Just search for asian girls in the reviews and you will find the links to these agencies. When you start visiting all the cryptic numbers will start making sense.
I'm glad to do my part to keep the newbies posting requests for information and getting the senior members blood pressure up. Glad to help.
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Hi guys,
A forum member contacted me to express his concerns that this report contains too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
Thanks,
Jackson
AKFourtySeven
03-27-09, 18:15
I went to ATMB and I got a massage from Lisa. Lisa is a 20 something cutie. Long black hair medium complexion. Classic round Korean face, Nice round firm tits. Really sweet and gave a great firm long 1hr15 min massage. I highly reccomend and will repeat. You guys will like her. 8
Phaik Naim
03-27-09, 18:17
Advertises "re-opening" or grand opening. On Blake road in FFX, not too far from Sun Star or the old Gold. One of those "hide-in-plain-sight" locations, in an office-condo thing with frontage on the intersection of major streets. I think you can park and enter there fairly inconspicuously.
Went there today, not off to a great start. "honey, you wait twenty minutes, OK? " OK. I'm here.
In comes Jenny. She said, Hi, collected. 8, left again. When she came back, the phone rang and she left AGAIN to answer it. She brought it back into the room while she was giving one of you directions from Alexandria and continued to talk. Her English is not good, and I'm betting whoever got those direction got lost.
Off to the TS. She wasn't too stand-offish, a little playful before the flip then on the flip the standard "do you want me to wash anywhere else? " Yes. Then an unexpected twist, and one to keep in mind, she finished the TS with a shampoo. Heads up if you're planning on going back to work / home to S. O. Afterward or have hair that requires more than a towel dry to be presentable. Not an issue for me, but may be for some.
Back to the room, the fucking phone rings AGAIN. So I'm lying on the table for 5 minutes while she gives more horrible directions and absentmindedly traces my back through the towel. When she's done, I say "OK, now how about something special since I've been so nice. " She looks confused and says "Jenny. "
Right. Gotcha.
Back massage started out OK, soft-medium. A little exploratory roaming on my part confirmed that it was allowed, although I stayed outside. After about 10 minutes, it turned into the light finger dance. For a while. Like 10 minutes. But top and bottom outside roaming continued unabated.
On the flip, there was more roaming, and she finally got to the standard NOVA, at which she showed some proficiency. Took me a bit, but I finished. As she was cleaning up, the phone rang AGAIN with ANOTHER dick from Alexandria asking for directions. I let that go on for a few minutes and then started to get up while she was still on the phone, she grabbed me and started kissing my neck in between fragments of horrible directions.
I was dressed just as she was done, she apologized profusely. She also said tomorrow there would be a "new young lady, better than me" there. Hopefully the rookie will get phone duty.
I get the sense that in better circumstances, Jenny would be enthusiastic with NOVA+ available, but I'm not positive. And, despite the interruptions, I'd viewing this as a positive experience and will try again.
F/B/S/A, 6. 5/6/4. 5(S-due to interruptions)/8.
Roamin Roman
03-27-09, 19:20
I've visited ATMB on a few occasions, especially when I am looking for sports massage after working out. It's not what most of the folks on this board would want in terms of an AMP, but they know their craft. It's a legit establishment that meets the requirements for just a good solid massage session. Obviously, you discovered that, too.
I went to ATMB and I got a massage from Lisa. Lisa is a 20 something cutie. Long black hair medium complexion. Classic round Korean face, Nice round firm tits. Really sweet and gave a great firm long 1hr15 min massage. I highly reccomend and will repeat. You guys will like her. 8
Guitarman1
03-28-09, 10:33
I'm getting my "information" from actually going to the LOCATION. The report on the forums indicates that a mamasan sent in a black therapist. On my visit, the mamasan sent in a Hispanic girl named Olivia. Hence, it wasn't purely an "Asian" massage parlor. The 7 corners location was dirty, as in unsanitary, and in a terrible location. Perhaps there were Asian girls working there at some point or they 'became' an AMP, but they certainly weren't always and their quality of service showed through a lack of reports on these forums.
I went to the 7 Corners location quite a few times. I was seen by asian girls every time and all the other girls I saw around were asian. I went a few times when they were not busy and spent a good amount of time chatting with the mamasan and some of the girls. They were all asian. As for service, I actually never had a bad experience there and hate the fact that they are closed now. They aren't a dirty establishment either. I think your non-asian was an exception, or you are thinking of a totally different place.
Member #4585
03-28-09, 11:26
Hey guys,
My SO is buying me a monthly massage for my birthday and she of course wants to purchase a gift certificate type thing to a reputable place. I've heard Jim Norton on O&A talk about how he's found legit therapists in the past who offered extras and I wonder if anyone has anything going with someone in the NOVA area right now and could refer me. Please PM. A standard NOVA would be nice at the end of these massages.
Thanks,
SJ
Thenewmann
03-28-09, 17:11
I visited May a couple of weeks ago. Cute and bubbly. She started with a light massage and it quickly led into another type of massage. After that finished I asked her to continue the back massage. I turned out that she is a real therapist and she really loosened up my back. Satisfaction all around and only $. 6.
As to the 7 Corners location. I have only been going there for the last few months but it was 100% asian. And about 10 years ago I used to work right down the road from it. I wonder if it was around. I could have had some great lunch hours!
Approx. 5'-0", 130#, 27 y.o., 38D, dark brown hair
"Visiting" from Taiwan via NYC
$.6, all-inclusive
(Senior and solid Regular Members can PM for details.)
R::R
AKFourtySeven
03-28-09, 17:51
I went to Zen yesterday and it was closed.I then tried to find Far East without my directions(I thought I could remember them).No luck.That place reminds me of the office park where Best is.
I think if you remove the X in "X"sham you have a better idea.
Personally have had nothing but good experiences at both places either and have never found either establishment to be dirty and have only seen Asian.
I was seen by asian girls every time and all the other girls I saw around were asian.
They were all asian.
As for service, I actually never had a bad experience there and hate the fact that they are closed now.
They aren't a dirty establishment either.
Wayward One
03-28-09, 20:33
Went in, got mamasan, not bad looking. Room had paper-thin walls, and bars above for walking on the back (although this did not occur). House fee was .8$ for 45 min.
TS was nice. Back to room, towel on and plenty of hard massage. Took lots of time on the legs. On the flip, several abbreviated acronyms took place. She cleaned me up, and I got dressed. She was very happy with the tip I left. She went the extra mile, and I left very happy. Total time 1hr 10min.
I would definately repeat. Oh, 2 women went in right in front of me, and I had thought I got there in time for the changing of the guard, but they turned out to be customers.
Wayward One
1. Green Therapy, in Sterling
2. Kay
3. Decent
4. "PM if you need details"
Roamin Roman
03-29-09, 00:19
Oh, 2 women went in right in front of me, and I had thought I got there in time for the changing of the guard, but they turned out to be customers.Just curious: Were those two women Asian or non-Asian, Ww1?
Roamin Roman
03-30-09, 02:05
As to the 7 Corners location. I have only been going there for the last few months but it was 100% asian. And about 10 years ago I used to work right down the road from it. I wonder if it was around. I could have had some great lunch hours!
It was not there 10 years ago. The manager set up that location only a few years back. Probably best that it wasn't there when you were working in that area. Your productivity at work might have suffered, becuase you'd probably have been thinking about it in the morning and then dreaming about it in the afternoon. :p
As for both locations (7 Corners and Evergreen), I did a little recon and made a few calls this weekend. Both places were closed up and locked tighter than a drum. No signs of any activity at either place. The folks Linda works for may relocate the 7 Corners AMP to another place nearby, but Sun Cocker (who is out of the area right now) will not pursue a license for the Evergreen location and does not anticipate re-opening at another venue. :(
That being said, though, there are a couple gems still out there: the new one in my earlier post, the "alternate MO", and another one or two where variety may be the spice of life. However, given the recent closings, as well as the cavalier attitude or lack of common sense that some members have displayed, I suspect information about these loctions will not be shared as readily nor as widely. Is that contrary to the spirit of this forum? In the strictest sense, maybe. But in the larger sense, not at all. The first key is survival. Maladjusted attitudes, poor judgment, and chronic stupidity are not conducive to long-term survival.
RR
Guitarman1
03-30-09, 10:00
What's with the backlash for Dusty Rob?
I mean if these places wanted to stay UTR they wouldn't advertise so blatantly and he probably did them a favor.Actually the mamasan at Mike Ono's has asked me and others not to make reports too detailed here and to be discreet about their location. So you are actually incorrect about advertising blatantly. Dirty Rob did not do them any favors, he just made their info that much easier for the wrong person to find.
I haven't been back since I heard they don't have a TS right now and don't expect to be back until they have the TS going again. Even though I haven't been there in awhile it is a nice place I would rather see stick around.
[QUOTE=Phaik Naim]Advertises "re-opening" or grand opening. On Blake road in FFX, not too far from Sun Star or the old Gold. One of those "hide-in-plain-sight" locations, in an office-condo thing with frontage on the intersection of major streets. I think you can park and enter there fairly inconspicuously.
Went there today, not off to a great start. "honey, you wait twenty minutes, OK? " OK. I'm here.
In comes Jenny.
I haven't posted since Aug '05, so the new handle.
I'd stopped by since the re-opening, think she was closed for almost two months for construction and county inspections. I first met Jenny maybe four-five years ago at Best Therapy and later at Sunstar just down the street. Now has her own shop, Korean lady mid-30s, expended the time and effort to get the proper permits and licenses (imagine that), good strong massage, new shower room, hot towels (a favorite of mine), back walk (not a fav), etc.
In response to the above post, said she'd gone thru several helpers since the re-open so is having a slow start. If you know her, stop by or give her a call, I'm sure she'll be glad to see you. I've always enjoyed her company, but I'm not looking for a DC/PWC experience and that hassle.
Take care,
Notnoob
Hi guys,
Some members have posted here that they believe that some other member's report contain too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
Thanks,
Jackson
It would be helpful to list the name and location of the AMP with the providers name and whether or not the poster was happy with the service and planned to return the forum was useful.
I think many other readers would also find this information helpful.
Roamin Roman
03-31-09, 18:24
It would be helpful to list the name and location of the AMP with the providers name and whether or not the poster was happy with the service and planned to return the forum was useful.
I think many other readers would also find this information helpful.You didn't RTFF, did you? If you look back into the threads (say, for about a month or so), you might have seen that that's precisely what's done here. Wayward One consolidates such information generally on a monthly basis. The only problem is, the girls often rotate out after a number of months (or weeks), so the information does not stay current forever.
1. 112
2. Mimi
3. Much more than I expected
4. PM for details
Passing Thru
04-01-09, 00:58
Well put Jackson
Now what will the senior clique hold over newbies/regular members' heads? Or will we see JJ, RR et all dispute Jackson? Go on.
Maybe we can get past reports that say: "I saw *** at *** for ***. It was a 9. Trusted members can PM me"
Then again, that would ruin the whole interwebz cred some people have spent years to build up. Wouldn't it?
Thanks for putting a much needed real world perspective on it Jackson
Chill
Hi guys,
Some members have posted here that they believe that some other member's report contain too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
Thanks,
Jackson
You didn't RTFF, did you? If you look back into the threads (say, for about a month or so), you might have seen that that's precisely what's done here. Wayward One consolidates such information generally on a monthly basis. The only problem is, the girls often rotate out after a number of months (or weeks), so the information does not stay current forever.But it does not provide much useful information lately.
Phaik Naim
04-01-09, 12:50
I dreamed that I went to Hanoi (which is in a close-in suburb, not in Springfield/PWC) recently for a haircut. The cuttery is owned by a woman who is, in my opinion, the single best looking masseuse in the NOVA/DC Area, I'd go 9.5-10 for both face and body. At least among those I've tried. She also gives a phenomenal legitimate massage. Especially if you like it hard. She has very strong hands.
After the legit massage, she demonstrates her handshake technique, which is also way, way above average. I have been going there for a very long time, so I am just assuming that the handshake is on the menu for the asking, and isn't just special to me (although I'd like to flatter myself and think so). Is more available? Doesn't seem so, but you never know, I guess.
Standard NOVA rates. The place is legit in all other ways, hair/nails, etc. And is very clean and professional, not like some of the basement or upstairs places. There is usually more than one person getting their hair cut during my massage appointments. I truly believe the experience to be under the radar and, wishing it to remain so, information will be provided selectively.
Phaik Naim
04-01-09, 14:06
I went to ATMB and I got a massage from Lisa. Lisa is a 20 something cutie. Long black hair medium complexion. Classic round Korean face, Nice round firm tits. Really sweet and gave a great firm long 1hr15 min massage. I highly reccomend and will repeat. You guys will like her. 8I tried Lisa based on your report, ATMB is too convenient to me to pass up. Other than the fact that my session was 45 minutes, you were right, I did like her. She works hard to make herself likable. Might be due to her training in Chicago instead of Northern Virginia?
Anyway, thanks for the head's up.
Amp Forever
04-01-09, 17:30
Ended up at Hope on Rt. 50 today (by mistake. Thought I had called a cc), but figured since I was already there to give it a try. Greeted by middle-age, but good figured, Asian (limited English). Fee was. 8. No TS. Massage was good, a little roaming allowed. She mentioned something about Maryland (I think that's where she came from). On flip side, she indicated that she could give real good massage. She mentioned. 8, but her English was so poor I wasn't sure if she meant "included in. 8, extra from. 8, or. 8 more". Gave her the go-ahead. Her skills were O. K (a little too hard for my liking). Finished massage. After dressing, gave her standard NOVA tip of. 4 She said she wanted. 8 I told her I don't know what they get in MD, but that was standard for NOVA. No way was I giving her. 8 for simple HE. If that's what they expect, no way I'm going back.
Asian Needs
04-01-09, 17:53
Listing this type of info is not safe for the AMP. Details should be done in PM's. All the AMPs I frequent do not appreciate such detail. And they do read the board.
It would be helpful to list the name and location of the AMP with the providers name and whether or not the poster was happy with the service and planned to return the forum was useful.
I think many other readers would also find this information helpful.
Roamin Roman
04-01-09, 18:32
Well put Jackson
Now what will the senior clique hold over newbies/regular members' heads? Or will we see JJ, RR et all dispute Jackson? Go on.
Maybe we can get past reports that say: "I saw *** at *** for ***. It was a 9. Trusted members can PM me"
Then again, that would ruin the whole interwebz cred some people have spent years to build up. Wouldn't it?
Thanks for putting a much needed real world perspective on it Jackson
ChillYou miss the point, amigo. None (or, at least, very few) of the Seniors here hold anything over the heads of new or 'Regular' status members. And, certainly, no one is disputing Jackson.
Certainly, as Jackson noted, LEO is likely aware of the locations of all the AMPs and strolls in their respective jurisdictions. And, since his servers are located in Canada, it's tough for local LEO to obtain a search warrant for the info on those servers.
All that being said, however, unless LEO is actually in the room, along with the therapist and customer, there is simply no way for them to tell which AMPs are just putting a toe over the line and which ones are crossing well beyond that line. LEO has limited resources. If they choose to go after every AMP in the area, even the ones providing just standard NoVa service, they will expend more than they have on budget. Thus, they'll target the most eggregious AMPs, condos, and the like (such as the CC at 7 Corners).
So, unless we specifically tell them which ones are crossing well beyond that line, their attempts to close down our favorite locations will be hampered by their limited resources. My point (and others', as well) is: Why make their jobs easier?
Now, as for sharing information, that's not necessarily based on one's status as a newbie or Regular. If you scroll back through this forum, you'll find a number of examples of some newbies (at that time, now Seniors) who submitted excellent reports on their very first post. What Seniors and long-time members resent are the newbies who just blunder in and basically say "Tell me where the best place is." This is because information is the currency of this board, and members obtained it with the expenditure of their time and money. Asking for that info, without even offering anything in return, is much akin to panhandling. "RTFF" is akin to the reply: "Get off your butt and do some work of your own. You're an able-bodied individual, right?" We're a generous group here, and calling out me or JJ or anyone else ISN'T the way to develop good comraderie.
Beyond a brief trial period of familiarity, it's really a matter of whether a newbie's or Regular member's posts Pass Muster or just Pass Gas. It's pretty easy to figure out how to do both, even for the prospective monger who just joined this forum and has yet to embark on his inaugural jaunt. Yet, time and again, we get folks who either linger around or pass through, but never seem to get a clue as to how this barter and info sharing system works. So, in that sense, you'll get ranked in an informal kind of way, like e-Bay. If your info is good, and your responses are good, then you'll get higher "cred" among the community here, even if you're a newbie or a Regular member.
My advice: Participate, with meaningful and useful posts, and you'll be amazed at how well the information flows. Given the times and the general uneasiness, it may be in the form of a PM (as follow-up to a more cryptic post), but it will be forthcoming.
So, do you wanna stay and play, or are you just gonna pass thru?
R::R
Roamin Roman
04-01-09, 18:34
But it does not provide much useful information lately.The key word in your post sums it up: "lately." Try reading back a little bit further.
1. 112
2. Mimi
3. Much more than I expected
4. PM for detailsIt is cut above every other AMP I have visited in NOVA in recent memory. They have a TABLE SHOWER and Mimi was a delight. Tell them "John" sent you!
I will be visiting the area soon and reading through the thread got several leads on places to visit while I am there. In fact, maybe to many. I will be short on time and sharing a vehicle, so I would like to make the most of the one maybe two opportunities I might have. Could anyone give me a recommendation on the one place you would put at the top of the list if you were a newby in the area? Thanks.
Wahooboy94
04-01-09, 23:02
Hi everyone,
After a 30 day break, tonight I was going to visit CTM but decided at the last second to take a chance on Fairco. I've been curious about this location for some time. Seeing that they've had a "grand opening" I decided to give it a shot and TOFTT.
If you're familiar with the location, you know that this AMP is located in a fairly small and nondescript building off of Backlick. Plenty of parking. You enter the entrance to the left of the Psychic office (maybe I should have consulted the Psychic in advance? ).
I was greeted at the door by the Mamasan who led me to Room #2 and told me my provider would be with me in 5. 10 minutes as she was eating her dinner. I paid for an hour ($80) and requested a TS. The facility was not necessarily as nice as some of the other AMPs in the area, but it was very clean and tidy and well kept at first glance. The room was sufficient.- once again, tidy. Not posh, but not spartan either.
I undressed and waited closer to 10. 12 minutes. I went ahead and laid out $80 in plain view on the chair in the room and placed my watch on top (lately, I've decided to lay out the potential tip in advance). Finally I heard footprints approach the door.
I was greeted by Yung (sp? ) and let me tell you, she was HOT HOT HOT! Probably in her 30s, a little heavy with the makeup (still looked good), wearing a tight green dress that left nothing to the imagination. Very attractive face, pretty eyes, and a fantastic figure. In heels, she was probably 5-7 or 5-8. Spoke very good English.
She took me to the TS, gave me a decent wash (not the best I've had), asked me to wash "that area" than escorted me back to my room.
Massage was passable but nice. She kept a towel over my private areas but still placed her hands on skin. Less therapeutic, more soft strokes with lotion. I prefer a firmer, stronger massage. No rods above for back-walking.
On the flip, the finish was standard. Once again, passable, but nowhere near one of my better experiences.
Entire visit was 45 minutes (closer to an hour if you count the time I sat and waited). I tipped $40 at the end of the session.
Would I go again? Yes, to see Yung again. She was gorgeous, very pleasant and nice to talk to. As I mentioned earlier, I've had much better experiences at an AMP (even as a first time visitor), but my sense was a repeat customer will get better service. During our chit-chat, Yung mentioned that she only worked Tuesdays and Wednesdays (assuming that was accurate).
It is cut above every other AMP I have visited in NOVA in recent memory. They have a TABLE SHOWER and Mimi was a delight. Tell them "John" sent you!
Did you actually use the TS?
Was it new?
The last time I was there, the manager told me that the town of Vienna would not allow one to be installed.
Did you actually use the TS?
Was it new?
The last time I was there, the manager told me that the town of Vienna would not allow one to be installed.New management. New girls. New experience. I highly reccomend. TS is where the kitchen used to be.
I was in McLean the other day and had seen the young ladies in the Rainbow ad on CL. I thought I would try the place. Big disappointment. The lady I drew was possibly the mother or even grandmother of girls in photo.
First told "$80 for 45 minutes" despite ad saying "$80 for an hour. " It went down hill from there.
Terrible massage and no ending, NOVA or otherwise, of any type. "Don't do that here, " she stated firmly when I asked.
This was the worst experience I have ever had at an AMP in NOVA.
The woman at Fairco was staunchly against anything extra. I mean nothing. I can only say that it was a waste. Did I need a passcode or anything? I am amazed at how different the experiences can be. I don't necessarily doubt the other report, but I know mine for sure. I think the thing to take away is to be aware that the divergence in services is an inevitable reality.
AKFourtySeven
04-02-09, 15:27
Yeah it varies a lot.Maybe it was your first time.
Maybe she didn't like you.
Maybe she REALLY doesn't do that sort of thing.
Maybe she was the mamasan.
Maybe she thot you are a cop.
Its hard to figure.
Just don't get mad.Maybe you'll get lucky next time.
Roamin Roman
04-02-09, 19:40
There's plenty of information here without having to ask for it, and I have none (of current value) to offer anyway.Based on your past posts, truer words may never have passed your lips.
Thanks for proving once again what you just said, amigo.
Liquorpeach
04-03-09, 01:57
Good day people. I've checked out this forum for a while. I wouldn't say I'm a frequent hobbyist, but over time I've accumulated a few miles. While the info has been useful, most of it is ultimately too foggy to really exploit. Time to ante up and hopefully find a nugget. I'll offer what I can. I'll start by saying I have FOND memories of HWC. Haven't really found any other place that compares.
Based on your past posts, truer words may never have passed your lips.
Thanks for proving once again what you just said, amigo.The last 100 posts by Roamin Roman:
12/100 actual reports on locations (12%). 4/12 provide limited to no real information (33% of total reports). 4/100 replies that provide somewhat useful information (e.g. try EROS or Citypaper) (4%).
4/100 miscategorized posts (4%). 4/100 posts deleted by moderator for off-topic or inappropriate (4%).
52/100 worthless comments unrelated to actual locations or personnel (at least 5 racist posts) (52%). 20/100 comments criticizing members for their posting when you could have private messaged them or a moderator (20%).
Hey, that's a cheap-o way of upping your post count, bro!
Whether or not the TS is back at Kims? I like the establishment, the mms, and the ladies, but I really didn't enjoy the chair experience last time I was there.
Went to check out Jade located in a professional office park. Nice, clean environment along with friendly service. I arrived 30 minutes late and was told that I should have called - seemed a bit wierd (oh, well). I was greated by Jennifer who is a tall, skinny korean from NY and new to the area. Escorted to a nice room and paid the 80/hr fee. No TS but a nice new looking shower area. Then back to the room for a great massage. As an experienced dude, I could tell she knew what she was doing and probably went to school. As she was completing the backside, she began to rub herself on my hand and fully allowed roaming. On the flip, I began rubbing her harded and harded which she enjoyed. Standard HJ and DATY which ran about 15 minutes. Watching the clock, total time was about 1.5hr which included a short stay in the sauna. All in all -not a bad visit for PWC which means a limited menue. Total damage -$.6 (.8/.8). Massage= 9.5, looks 8, attitude 6. Would I return? probably but paid too much on the tip.
In most cases, I do not get involved in the back and forth. However, I feel it necessary to voice my opinion in this case. As it has been said here many times, this forum is for exchanging information. On occasion some get involved in interesting debates, however, there are those that seem to want to start a fight. This is what I have observed in the reports from Xsham. In addition to his attitude, I personally question some of the information in his reviews. An example would be his report on 7CC. I for one would like to see more reviews and less of this BS. Lets get back to what the forum was created for and knock off the BS.
Not a sermon, just a thought.
...spell your name right in the newspaper if you get caught in a PWC place during a bust.
You are a BRAVE MAN!!!
The risk is not worth it for me!
JJ
Went to check out Jade located in a professional office park. Nice, clean environment along with friendly service. I arrived 30 minutes late and was told that I should have called - seemed a bit wierd (oh, well). I was greated by Jennifer who is a tall, skinny korean from NY and new to the area. Escorted to a nice room and paid the 80/hr fee. No TS but a nice new looking shower area. Then back to the room for a great massage. As an experienced dude, I could tell she knew what she was doing and probably went to school. As she was completing the backside, she began to rub herself on my hand and fully allowed roaming. On the flip, I began rubbing her harded and harded which she enjoyed. Standard HJ and DATY which ran about 15 minutes. Watching the clock, total time was about 1.5hr which included a short stay in the sauna. All in all -not a bad visit for PWC which means a limited menue. Total damage -$.6 (.8/.8). Massage= 9.5, looks 8, attitude 6. Would I return? probably but paid too much on the tip.
Roamin Roman
04-03-09, 18:49
Good day people. I've checked out this forum for a while. I wouldn't say I'm a frequent hobbyist, but over time I've accumulated a few miles. While the info has been useful, most of it is ultimately too foggy to really exploit. Time to ante up and hopefully find a nugget. I'll offer what I can. I'll start by saying I have FOND memories of HWC. Haven't really found any other place that compares.Welcome LP.
We'll be looking forward to your recons and reports, though hopefully in your studying this forum you've garnered the meaning of discretion. I've sent a recommendation for you to check out.
If you go, post your findings, please.
RR
Roamin Roman
04-03-09, 19:08
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.
I saw a lot of talk about this one. I've been regular customer there for a few months. Started as outcall, then went in. Michelle was my favorite. Always some extra. After I found out they been closed down, I called to see what's going on, I was told it's still open. I called at the beginning of this week to make appointment with Michelle, was told she's gone there are new girls there and I was given new location address. I don't know if it's brand new, or has it been running along with the 7corners. Looked used. The girl there was not exactly my type, god I miss Michelle. Anyway, if interested PM for details and location.
Been there yesterday. Got Michelle again(I think Michelle and Kay, same girl), this time everything the way it supposed to be, standard finish, not so much roaming allowed. Don't know if I repeat again, it's kinda far away for standard, perhaps try new place in Vienna.
Roamin Roman
04-04-09, 01:35
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.
Roamin Roman
04-04-09, 01:46
I saw a lot of talk about this one. I've been regular customer there for a few months. Started as outcall, then went in. Michelle was my favorite. Always some extra. After I found out they been closed down, I called to see what's going on, I was told it's still open. I called at the beginning of this week to make appointment with Michelle, was told she's gone there are new girls there and I was given new location address. I don't know if it's brand new, or has it been running along with the 7corners. Looked used. The girl there was not exactly my type, god I miss Michelle. Anyway, if interested PM for details and location.This past weekend, I spoke with Linda (CC's manager) who said she just got a new girl at the FCCC. Also, her "supervisors" are planning to open another CC in the general area of 7 Corners. And, of course, the TCCC is still running strong. (That's where I had my first of many sessions with Linda. Unfortunately, she is now "retired. ") One of the gals there (Shelly? ) was worth giving a repeat visit. 34B, 5'-3", 100#, about 30 y. O. +/- 5. Check, though, as she may have rotated out.
RR
Roamin Roman
04-04-09, 03:24
I've been meaning to post this for some time, but just never got around to it. (Can't imagine why. :D )
Anyway, nearly all the AMP and CC girls work long hours each day. The CCs are usually a 2-week rotation, while the AMPs can be 6 months to a year. Ever think that these girls get tired, especially the AMP girls? From talking to enough of them about the length of their days, I can tell you that most wait for the end of the day, even if they're making good tips. Also, most of them enjoy getting off, if the mood and setting are right.
With that in mind, I've found it useful to occasionally offer to give the girl a massage. True, doing so cuts into your massage time, but for AMPs especially, it can result in the girl remembering you just a bit more fondly (beyond the tip you provide) when you make a return visit. And, done right, it can help add additional experiencs to your session that might not otherwise be on the menu. Particularly if you combine the massage with DATY that is enhanced by a special tool.
Whenever I visit an AMP or CC, I usually bring along a couple of small personal vibes and a bottle of scented massage oil. After introductions and the TS, if I'm at an AMP, I'll ask if she's had a busy day. Usually, the girl will say yes, so I'll say to her, "How about if I give you a massage today? " Most of the times, she'll say "Okay, " at which point I'll tell her to lie down. Sometimes, she's hesitant to get totally down to her birthday suit, but a word or two of encouragement and telling her that I don't want to get oil on her underclothes will work just fine.
At this point, it helps to know a little bit about massage and the muscle groups. You don't need extensive knowledge, but being aware of the main muscles (especially how they run along the calves, back, and forearms) is very helpful since those are the muscles where they usually get fatigued first.
When giving a girl a massage, you don't want to rush through it or do it in a half-assed manner. That doesn't accomplish anything, for you or the girl. Take your time and work her from head to toe (but being mindful that the mamasan is still keeping track of the time). Have her lie on her stomach first and cover everything there. Then, on the flip, proceed as they usually proceed with us: work the shoulders a bit, then the arms, then the chest (and perhaps even include some light lifting by working your hands under her back from her waist up to her neck).
Then, when she's basking in that after-massage glow, move to giving her a happy ending. Use some Glide or similar substance to massage her there; don't use the massage oil. After a bit, you can move to DATY, if you like, although that's not necessary.
Now, here's where the vibes come in. It's best not to surprise her; let her know what you've got. Some girls are afraid to let a vibe go inside them. That's not a problem. Just tell them it'll only be outside. If you combine the vibe with DATY, you'll likely give the girl an experience that she has seldom had before. The combination of a vibe with competent DATY will usually be a big surprise to them and make them come in a huge way, sometimes multiple in a very short time span.
If you play things right, use good technique, and have a cover handy, at this point you can sometimes manage to convince the girl to give you more than the standard finish. Believe me, I'd estimate that it works for me about a third of the times I visit AMPs (even in NoVa). And even if she won't do CFS, she will often provide CBJ or BBBJ.
The photos attached are as follows:
(1) A small bottle of scented massage oil, which you can obtain from The Body Shop for about six dollars. You can choose the scent you want.
(2) A small, lipstick-style vibe, made by Grrlz Toyz. It's called the Incognito Lipstick Vibe. It uses one AAA battery and has good power without being too strong. This one sells for about .2 at your local adult toy store. During DATY, this works great against her clit.
(Update: I just checked Amazon, and it's currently selling for $11.67 and is in-stock. http://www.amazon.com/grrl-toyz-Incognito-Lipstick-Vibrator/dp/B000EHP6BC)
(3) A slightly larger, 4-inch 7-function vibe called "Tease & Please" made by California Erotics. It has a straight vibe function, plus pulse, ramp, oscillation, and combo functions. It sells for about .25 at your local adult toy store. I occasionally use this, if the she is willing, inside her box while giving her DATY at the same time. The nice featuer about this vibe is that the control button is on the end of the vibe, so the function can be altered without removing it. Used in combination with the Lipstick vibe on her clit, it's usually is sufficient to give her an exhausting series of orgasms.
(Update:Amazon also has this one in-stock, for $19.99 in various colors. http://www.amazon.com/7-Function-Tease-Please-Purple/dp/B000W8YKK6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1238912517&sr=1-3)
(4) Lastly, small 3-inch bottles of Isopropyl (to clean the toys and remove any lube or oil, too) and Glide or similar lube. You can buy these bottles at the Container Store, BB&B, or your local pharmacy.
So, there you have it: A simple "fun kit" to take on your next AMP or CC visit. The bottle sizes pack well, along with the vibes and massage oil, in an easy-to-carry ziplock bag that will even fit discretely into your coat pocket.
One thing you might discover, as you employ these tools: Occasionally, an AMP girl. Or, more often, a CC girl. Will ask if she can have one of your vibes. That's a decision you'll have to make, whether to grant her wish. I've parted with more than a couple vibes, and that act has made return visits even more enjoyable. It's even helped spur rendezvous outside the AMP or condo, one of which turned into a long-term extra-curricular affair over the better part of 15 months. So, you never know. One thing is for sure: In the right hands, tools can be very constructive and helpful things.
R::R
P.S. - Every so often, the mamasan will accept the offer of a massagi. When she accepts, do a good job and you'll be in like Flynn.
AKFourtySeven
04-04-09, 08:08
PM for details.
Guitarman1
04-04-09, 10:20
The last 100 posts by Roamin Roman:
12/100 actual reports on locations (12%). 4/12 provide limited to no real information (33% of total reports). 4/100 replies that provide somewhat useful information (e.g. try EROS or Citypaper) (4%).
4/100 miscategorized posts (4%). 4/100 posts deleted by moderator for off-topic or inappropriate (4%).
52/100 worthless comments unrelated to actual locations or personnel (at least 5 racist posts) (52%). 20/100 comments criticizing members for their posting when you could have private messaged them or a moderator (20%).
Every time Roamin reports something of interested to me, even with limited details, I send him a PM and he responds with specific info I am asking for. I also do the same for him and other trusted members. You aren't going to turn others on this board against him, so don't bother trying.
I personally post all the specifics for CL girls and SW's because they are out there actively trying to get more business. I am less specific with AMP's because while they do advertise, their ads intentionally make it less clear what is available.
Looking for something different today so I took up the offer from Golden Spa on CL. $95.00 no tipping 65 minutes, etc.
Lots of drama getting through their security steps. I was a little put off when a man answered the phone but pressed on anyway.
I was told to park in one place then called back and was directed to walk to another place to the real place. Again, some drama but it was worth it all!
Finally got to the place and met a really nice and well built white blonde woman.
A little more drama.
Then a REAL massage! She has done this a few times before, I'd bet! It just felt WONDERFUL!!
Then we finished up, cleanup up, chatted a little while and I left feeling MUCH better than when I went in!
I missed the TS that can be had at an AMP but this girl REALLY knows how to do a good massage so with the difference in pricing it was more beneficial and absolutely worth all the drama!
I WILL visit this place again - and probably soon!
So, do not be afraid of the drama and hassle involved. Just go try it out.
PM if I know you and you want details.
JJ
Roamin Roman
04-04-09, 12:52
Let me be the first to congratulate you on your 500th post, Sleaze. That's a milestone indeed, with many a quality post to your credit.
And, on a different note, I'm exploring the possibility of wmeeting some providers outside the normal AMP / CC environs (particularly from the places that got closed recently). A couple of girls may be available to meet up in another location or even do outcall. I'll keep you posted, if it pans out.
RR
Looking for something different today so I took up the offer from Golden Spa on CL. $95.00 no tipping 65 minutes, etc.
Lots of drama getting through their security steps. I was a little put off when a man answered the phone but pressed on anyway.
I was told to park in one place then called back and was directed to walk to another place to the real place. Again, some drama but it was worth it all!
Finally got to the place and met a really nice and well built white blonde woman.
A little more drama.
Then a REAL massage! She has done this a few times before, I'd bet! It just felt WONDERFUL!!
Then we finished up, cleanup up, chatted a little while and I left feeling MUCH better than when I went in!
I missed the TS that can be had at an AMP but this girl REALLY knows how to do a good massage so with the difference in pricing it was more beneficial and absolutely worth all the drama!
I WILL visit this place again - and probably soon!
So, do not be afraid of the drama and hassle involved. Just go try it out.
PM if I know you and you want details.
JJ
AKFourtySeven
04-04-09, 13:03
Congrats
I too have gotten great intel from Roamin Roaman.
Keep up the good work.
Mustang946
04-04-09, 15:10
Whether or not the TS is back at Kims? I like the establishment, the mms, and the ladies, but I really didn't enjoy the chair experience last time I was there.
Two weeks ago the chair was still in use.
Every time Roamin reports something of interested to me, even with limited details, I send him a PM and he responds with specific info I am asking for. I also do the same for him and other trusted members. You aren't going to turn others on this board against him, so don't bother trying.
I personally post all the specifics for CL girls and SW's because they are out there actively trying to get more business. I am less specific with AMP's because while they do advertise, their ads intentionally make it less clear what is available.
I will also vouch for Roamin Roman. He is a solid source for information on finding women, which I assume is the reason we all check out this forum. My suggestion to the newer members is to gain his trust, which really isn't all that hard, and utilize his knowledge for your enjoyment.
Stay Sober
04-04-09, 17:31
The table is back!
Went last night, can't remember name, but she was younger, around 35, skinny and very nice.
Standard services and tip.
Stay Sober!
I just do what I can!
JJ
Let me be the first to congratulate you on your 500th post, Sleaze. That's a milestone indeed, with many a quality post to your credit.
And, on a different note, I'm exploring the possibility of wmeeting some providers outside the normal AMP / CC environs (particularly from the places that got closed recently). A couple of girls may be available to meet up in another location or even do outcall. I'll keep you posted, if it pans out.
RR
One thing is for sure: In the right hands, tools can be very constructive and helpful things.I also meant to post this as an example of tools int he wrong hands!
As for street walkers, I have always invited them to use the shower in my hotel room and use the lotions and soaps. Even asked the cleaning crews to leave plenty of supplies and towels. Seems to go a long way. It just provides me with the time to get a second pop.
Asian Needs
04-04-09, 19:55
Hey Sleaze,
You should go to your favorite AMP in PWC to celebrate that milestone.
I just do what I can!
JJ
Plaqueman75
04-04-09, 20:51
Let me be the first to congratulate you on your 500th post, Sleaze. That's a milestone indeed, with many a quality post to your credit.
And, on a different note, I'm exploring the possibility of wmeeting some providers outside the normal AMP / CC environs (particularly from the places that got closed recently). A couple of girls may be available to meet up in another location or even do outcall. I'll keep you posted, if it pans out.
RRI hate to sound like a broken record but we all appreciate the postings from you and RR (and others too! but there are just too many)
Thanks!
Pilot Aviator
04-04-09, 22:43
THis message should be preserved!
Roman:Roman makes another superior post!
PA
Roamin Roman
04-05-09, 02:08
I also meant to post this as an example of tools in the wrong hands!Holy crap, Sub-Z! That picture hurts just looking at it! That's the wrong way for a monger to go about getting his crank sucked.
The only good thing is that the bottle wasn't glass.
JankMonster
04-05-09, 16:06
Looking for something different today so I took up the offer from Golden Spa on CL. $95.00 no tipping 65 minutes, etc.
Lots of drama getting through their security steps. I was a little put off when a man answered the phone but pressed on anyway.
I was told to park in one place then called back and was directed to walk to another place to the real place. Again, some drama but it was worth it all!
Finally got to the place and met a really nice and well built white blonde woman.
A little more drama.
Then a REAL massage! She has done this a few times before, I'd bet! It just felt WONDERFUL!!
Then we finished up, cleanup up, chatted a little while and I left feeling MUCH better than when I went in!
I missed the TS that can be had at an AMP but this girl REALLY knows how to do a good massage so with the difference in pricing it was more beneficial and absolutely worth all the drama!
I WILL visit this place again - and probably soon!
So, do not be afraid of the drama and hassle involved. Just go try it out.
PM if I know you and you want details.
JJBased on your post, I wanted to go visit them today.
The number in their CL post has been disconnected.
Stay Sober
04-05-09, 20:46
I was so happy about the table shower being back, that I went again! Very not like me since I don't have much $, but oh well!
Found that my Friday masseuse was Sonny! Very nice, if you get a chance, definitely try her.
Anyway, Sunday was different. I was introduced to Annie, she took me back and I got a REALLY good table shower. One of the best I have ever experienced. Cleaned EVERY place that was needed and then some. But alas, on of you mongers had an appointment, and she was taken away from me right after the shower was done. No big loss, to my surprise, I got Sonny again. WOOHOO!
She has some really good message techniques, and she can rub the kinks out of the old lower back.
Both ladies are prime and well worth the visit to Kim's. This is by far the best AMP experience you can have.
I must say that Kim's has one thing I like, And I have mentioned this before. Once the, uhm, fun is done, the message continues. None of that, OK YOU DONE stuff, just more message. That is why I continue to go to Kim's.
Senior members, PM me for the more detailed adventures I had these past two nights, for they were good!!!!!!!!!!!
All, go to Kim's, it is worth it, trust me.
Oh yeah, The Academy of Country Music Awards is on tonight. Jimmy Johnson is up for some awards, and the old stand by, George Straight. Jimmy Johnson "In Color" is one good song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, I now have 1 year, 7 Months with no BOOZE!
Stay Safe and as Always,
Stay Sober
Holy crap, Sub-Z! That picture hurts just looking at it! That's the wrong way for a monger to go about getting his crank sucked. The only good thing is that the bottle wasn't glass.As any nurse at ER, they will tell you stories about people coming at 3 AM with objects stock in/on them. Funny stories. They keep the X-Rays as trophies!!
As a kid, once I placed a rubber band around my foreskin. It turned black. The way I got out of it was to place another rubber band around my finger, and asked for help. We had a visitor at the house who went to the garage and got some solvent which eroded the rubber band. I had to wait 15+ painful minutes to find a way to take the solvent bottle to the bathroom :)
Congrats on the 1 year and 7 months!
For me it has been since New Year's of 1996 and still going well!
You are doing GREAT!!
As it turned out with me I am not and never was an alcoholic but I WAS one drunk asshole for over 10 years.
Again I WAY TO GO!!!
JJ
I was so happy about the table shower being back, that I went again! Very not like me since I don't have much $, but oh well!
Found that my Friday masseuse was Sonny! Very nice, if you get a chance, definitely try her.
Anyway, Sunday was different. I was introduced to Annie, she took me back and I got a REALLY good table shower. One of the best I have ever experienced. Cleaned EVERY place that was needed and then some. But alas, on of you mongers had an appointment, and she was taken away from me right after the shower was done. No big loss, to my surprise, I got Sonny again. WOOHOO!
She has some really good message techniques, and she can rub the kinks out of the old lower back.
Both ladies are prime and well worth the visit to Kim's. This is by far the best AMP experience you can have.
I must say that Kim's has one thing I like, And I have mentioned this before. Once the, uhm, fun is done, the message continues. None of that, OK YOU DONE stuff, just more message. That is why I continue to go to Kim's.
Senior members, PM me for the more detailed adventures I had these past two nights, for they were good!!!!!!!!!!!
All, go to Kim's, it is worth it, trust me.
Oh yeah, The Academy of Country Music Awards is on tonight. Jimmy Johnson is up for some awards, and the old stand by, George Straight. Jimmy Johnson "In Color" is one good song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, I now have 1 year, 7 Months with no BOOZE!
Stay Safe and as Always,
Stay Sober
JJ -
Nice work pal, may the next 500 be as great as the first. :D
All the best,
MnV
Norm Leone
04-06-09, 20:37
I dreamed that I went to Hanoi (which is in a close-in suburb, not in Springfield/PWC) recently for a haircut. The cuttery is owned by a woman who is, in my opinion, the single best looking masseuse in the NOVA/DC Area, I'd go 9.5-10 for both face and body. At least among those I've tried. She also gives a phenomenal legitimate massage. Especially if you like it hard. She has very strong hands.
After the legit massage, she demonstrates her handshake technique, which is also way, way above average. I have been going there for a very long time, so I am just assuming that the handshake is on the menu for the asking, and isn't just special to me (although I'd like to flatter myself and think so). Is more available? Doesn't seem so, but you never know, I guess.
Standard NOVA rates. The place is legit in all other ways, hair/nails, etc. And is very clean and professional, not like some of the basement or upstairs places. There is usually more than one person getting their hair cut during my massage appointments. I truly believe the experience to be under the radar and, wishing it to remain so, information will be provided selectively.
Sounds interesting, please PM me.
Norm
Max Beelyun
04-07-09, 03:44
Anyone have a CC number they would care to share with me via PM? Or tips on how to find such numbers? Any help would be appreciated. I may prowl in the morning. Thanks.
I think the terminology goes something like this. dried drunk, the same person will drink again, you're in relapse before you ever pick up the drink/drug. There's a lot more but if what they say is true .........................................
Had the pleasure of visiting Ruby in Springfield 2 weeks ago. A tad younger than the other ladies who have been there in the past, but still 30ish. Very nice natural small C's. Everything else typical as far as looks.
Asked if I could give her a short massage after she finished with my back. She agreed to taking off shorts, left thong on. Unhooked bra, but left it on too. I knew it would go further than standard nova finish at that point (not that it ever had at this place). That said, was surprised at the fact that when it was my turn again, for her to massage my front, she went straight into some really nice BBBJ, allowing me to do some of the work with my hips. That was followed by a really much needed HJ to completion.
Liked it so much, that I went back about 7 days later, and this time, there was no BBBJ on the menu. I wonder if she was just new the 1st time? She remembered me, so why not the 2nd time? Oh well. Probably for the best.
Max Beelyun
04-07-09, 17:01
I went to 112 this morning. Mamasan took me to shower and scrubbed every last dead skin cell off. Wow, she sure was thorough. Went to room. Angie arrived in nice little red dress. She gave a nice massage, walked on my back even. The rest was standard nova. The red dress was slightly disheveled by the time I finished. Would go back, except a little concerned about uncle leo in that location, so not so sure.
I dreamed that I went to Hanoi (which is in a close-in suburb, not in Springfield/PWC) recently for a haircut. The cuttery is owned by a woman who is, in my opinion, the single best looking masseuse in the NOVA/DC Area, I'd go 9.5-10 for both face and body. At least among those I've tried. She also gives a phenomenal legitimate massage. Especially if you like it hard. She has very strong hands.
After the legit massage, she demonstrates her handshake technique, which is also way, way above average. I have been going there for a very long time, so I am just assuming that the handshake is on the menu for the asking, and isn't just special to me (although I'd like to flatter myself and think so). Is more available? Doesn't seem so, but you never know, I guess.
Standard NOVA rates. The place is legit in all other ways, hair/nails, etc. And is very clean and professional, not like some of the basement or upstairs places. There is usually more than one person getting their hair cut during my massage appointments. I truly believe the experience to be under the radar and, wishing it to remain so, information will be provided selectively.Not to start a flame, but as a new member of the board, with limited experience (okay three so far, but I need to start somewhere/sometime) but this post is limited in its usefulness. Basically my last three were a waste of money, the massages were never that good, and no fun, at the same place! I would write if it contributed anything, and I already posted a review. PN, any more information you can share besides close in suburb not Springfield/PWC?
I am trying to earn senior status the legitimate way with useful posts, after all ain't this what this is all about?
Roamin Roman
04-08-09, 19:27
I went back about 7 days later, and this time, there was no BBBJ on the menu. I wonder if she was just new the 1st time? She remembered me, so why not the 2nd time? Oh well. Probably for the best.Sometimes, with these gals, it's a spur-of-the-moment kind of thing. She may have been inspired by your massagi technique the first time around. Or, she may have had a headache or some other reason that un-inspired her the second time around. Also, she might have been a bit spooked by the recent LEO activity.
My recommendation would be to go back again. Third time's the charm, as they say.
RR
1. Venus Spa
2. Janie
3. Good NOVA Massage
4. She had a case of the giggles
I went there early afternoon. The reception is very friendly which puts you at ease. Suzy greeted me but passed me on to Annie. I think I would have been fine with Suzy also. Annie however is top notch. Very nice TS. Fantastic attitude and a decent massage for a Korean girl. Her face is Ok and shows that is a bit older but that body is very nice. Skin is soft. She allowed me to massage her for 20 minutes and seemed to enjoy it.
They offer you a soft drink when you come in and one when you leave. Classy place
Must visit and a repeat.
I went there late afternoon. It is in a nice professional strip condos with it's own parking spot. Cool.
The place is nice inside but the women had attitude. Polar opposite of the K place further south. She asked me for $60 for 30 minutes. When I enquired about one hour she said it is $80 for 50 minutes with emphasis on "50". I left.
The women are doable if the attitude was a bit friendly
Amp Forever
04-09-09, 06:33
Gave it a try at the 7 Corners Place location. 8 for fee. Chinese girl named Ping. Early 30's (I guess) with nice body. No TS. Good massage. She has limited English, but was very friendly with great attitude. Outside roaming only. Nice HE. Upped the tip from. 4 to. 6 on basis of great attitude (she made the hour very enjoyable and I pay more for better time).
Decided to stop by Aroma yesterday, about 6pm. Not too many cars in parking lot, kinda quiet. About three spaces right in front of the place empty. Went in ring the bell and this is what I received. Cute, but bit older woman came to open the door with "can I help you, what do you need? " I was little surprised, never experienced this kind of attitude. Anyway, I answered "massage". She said "busy", I asked "how long to wait", she said "two hours". I don't think I'm going back there. The attitude is not worth it. Also their business hours are kinda strange, 10-8:30 Mo-Sa, Su 10-7. Have no idea why they're pushing us away, but they're doing good job.
I went to 112 this morning. Mamasan took me to shower and scrubbed every last dead skin cell off. Wow, she sure was thorough. Went to room. Angie arrived in nice little red dress. She gave a nice massage, walked on my back even. The rest was standard nova. The red dress was slightly disheveled by the time I finished. Would go back, except a little concerned about uncle leo in that location, so not so sure.The place has all the necessary licenses and I can never remember any LEO problems within the Town of Vienna as long as I have been interested in AMPs.
The woman at Fairco was staunchly against anything extra. I mean nothing. I can only say that it was a waste. Did I need a passcode or anything? I am amazed at how different the experiences can be. I don't necessarily doubt the other report, but I know mine for sure. I think the thing to take away is to be aware that the divergence in services is an inevitable reality.Sorry you had that experience -- mine was much like Wahooboy's.
I left with the opinion that I would be returning.
Roamin Roman
04-09-09, 19:11
I went there early afternoon. The reception is very friendly which puts you at ease. Suzy greeted me but passed me on to Annie. I think I would have been fine with Suzy also. Annie however is top notch. Very nice TS. Fantastic attitude and a decent massage for a Korean girl. Her face is Ok and shows that is a bit older but that body is very nice. Skin is soft. She allowed me to massage her for 20 minutes and seemed to enjoy it.
They offer you a soft drink when you come in and one when you leave. Classy place
Must visit and a repeat.
Sorry, I just couldn't resist the pun (or the "Pon", for those who know what that means).
I have to concur with your assessment of Annie (Angie). She provides excellent accupressure/massage. In fact, when I was working in that area, I would avail myself of that establishment after working out at the gym at the office. My muscles would be less tense during and after the drive home on the Beltway. And you're right about the class of that place: a can of soda or (my preference) a bottle of water was always offered (and accepted).
The nice thing about the place is that they are legit (i.e. , licensed). Tip well and be nice to the ladies, as another of our compatriots says.
R::R
I don't see any ads in the usual places today.
One phone # I remember is ringing busy anyone have any info?
Thanks
Pathfinder04
04-09-09, 20:22
Sonja's gone, DC's too far away, so today I tried Green in Sterling via a CL ad (the CL ad did not mention the name of the establishment but it's on Whitfield Place and advertises "Hot! Hot! Hot! Asian ladies").
I rang the bell and was greeted by Kay, a very attractive woman late 20's, who took me to my room and took my $80 room fee. I was disappointed that she was not available for massage, but then in came Ivy who was almost as attractive, probably mid 30s, with a great smile and body. It was her first day in VA, from NYC, and it was my first time adventuring in Loudoun, so we were probably both a little nervous, but we warmed up quickly and had a very good time together.
All in all I had a very enjoyable session that left me completely relaxed. I will share details with trusted seniors.
Looks: 7
Body: 8
Attitude: 9
Massage: 6
Extras: PM
Donation: 8/8 for 60
Amp Forever
04-10-09, 06:33
Tried it a little while back. Will not be returning.
Woman was middle age, but with good body. TS was O. K. (very limited time spent where it counts). Massage was mediocre. But what really turned me off was not only her insistence that she see how much extra was in it for her, but she retrieved my pants from the hook so that I could take the money out first and, what really pisses me off, she tries real hard to get a peek into my wallet to see how much cash I had. A certain amount of respect that she will take good care of me and I will appropriately compensate her should be part of the experience. She did take out the girls, but during the HE she practically pinned me down to the table and her technique left a lot to be desired.
Phaik Naim
04-10-09, 07:28
Not to start a flame, but as a new member of the board, with limited experience (okay three so far, but I need to start somewhere/sometime) but this post is limited in its usefulness. Basically my last three were a waste of money, the massages were never that good, and no fun, at the same place! I would write if it contributed anything, and I already posted a review. PN, any more information you can share besides close in suburb not Springfield/PWC?
I am trying to earn senior status the legitimate way with useful posts, after all ain't this what this is all about? I think that if you look at my posting history, you'll find that while it is limited, most of my posts contain plenty of actual information. It might be reasonable for you to conclude that when I write in "code", I am doing so because either (a) I've been asked to and am acting as requested, or (b) there are other specific reasons that I don't want this place to become known like the regular places that have been around for years.
In this case it's the latter. This is not SunStar, Aroma, Ivy, Rainbow, all of which are known and tacitly allowed by the Powers That Be (until they're not). I don't want it to become one of those places.
I think you would also find that when members PM'd me about further information, which many did, if I could do some basic due diligence on the poster and determine that they were well-known and reputable, or at least have shared real information in the past, then I was very forthcoming with additional information.
Those who had few or no posts, or posts only asking for information or (ahem) complaining about the lack of information in someone's post, got no response.
Sorry, man, that's how I'm going to play this one.
Decided to stop by Aroma yesterday, about 6pm. Not too many cars in parking lot, kinda quiet. About three spaces right in front of the place empty. Went in ring the bell and this is what I received. Cute, but bit older woman came to open the door with "can I help you, what do you need? " I was little surprised, never experienced this kind of attitude. Anyway, I answered "massage". She said "busy", I asked "how long to wait", she said "two hours". I don't think I'm going back there. The attitude is not worth it. Also their business hours are kinda strange, 10-8:30 Mo-Sa, Su 10-7. Have no idea why they're pushing us away, but they're doing good job.
I agree with Hofi35. See my previous post. In the last post I had a typo. I said, "The women are doable if the attitude was a bit friendly". I meant to say that the attitude is unfriendly. Looks like they were flat out rude to Hofi35.
If they have any business sense they will do the opposite and develop couple of quality places in this area of town that hosts some big name tech companies with thousands of single guys with some dispensable income.
Vitrea
Norm Leone
04-10-09, 16:03
The last time I went for Physical Therapy in Chantilly, the practitioner decided uninvitedly to lick my right nipple. I asked her to stop but she continued for about 5 seconds (not real long!). After the massage I used the rest room and washed it off. A little paranoid? Maybe.
The next day my nipple itched a lot. It continued after that. I had a physical already scheduled a week later, so I told my doctor about it and what I suspected was the cause. He told me not to worry about it. A couple of months later, it was still itching like crazy, so I went back to the same doctor. This time he gave me an anti-fungal cream. Two days later no itching; hasn't itched since. He said to continue until the tube was empty. It is a damn big tube, but I will for sure.
I suspect some people will think this is funny, and maybe it is humorous. But really, I feel lucky. I feel lucky that it was only a fungal infection. I feel lucky that it was not my dick or my ass. I feel lucky that there is currently no S.O. to give it to.
Be careful out there, danger can creep up on you,
Norm
As my experiences at BT seemed to have peaked early this year and gone down hill significantly since, I paid a visit to the Little River Spa. Standard fare for NoVa experiences, but just a bit better than other recent experiences. A lot of attention and gentle technique in the finish, not the usual mixing-a-can-of-spray-paint type of treatment. No Asian or Russian as I had previously been getting at BT, and everything stayed on with little/no opportunity for roaming, but still the technique from the TS to the legit massage to final finish was a very positive experience. The provider was reasonably hot, in her 30s and very decent body, but not in a very revealing outfit. Name was Julie. Standard price and tip.
Pilot Aviator
04-10-09, 21:50
Visited one of our favorite locals earlier this week.
It was a better than average massage. And I will likely repeat. Details follow:
MMS greeted me warmly, said she today I would meet a new friend. (Which was fine, but MMS is one of the best massage therapists I know. And I am always happy when she takes the time with me. But today it was a new friend). Short time later, in comes a nice lady, whose smile lit-up the room.- her name is Sonny (or Sunny.- pick your favorite spelling variation)
Slender, younger than some, and all the typical beauty many of us like.
Off to TS. And, as reported earlier this week. The table is back. Her TS technique was OK. Nothing special.
Back to the room.- and she does have above average massage skills. Particularly legs/thighs and back.
As she massages my neck and head, we talked about her family (spread out in many places). She thought it interesting I speak a litte Korean and Japanese.- I thought it interesting she spoke Japanese and her English was fairly good. Some might find that too chatty.- for me it was pleasant.
Nothing unexpected. Neither suprisingly good or bad.- full hour (and that always makes me happier than being shorted time). It was fairly quiet the day I was there.
Always be nice to the ladies
PA
I think that if you look at my posting history, you'll find that while it is limited, most of my posts contain plenty of actual information. It might be reasonable for you to conclude that when I write in "code", I am doing so because either (a) I've been asked to and am acting as requested, or (b) there are other specific reasons that I don't want this place to become known like the regular places that have been around for years.
In this case it's the latter. This is not SunStar, Aroma, Ivy, Rainbow, all of which are known and tacitly allowed by the Powers That Be (until they're not). I don't want it to become one of those places.
I think you would also find that when members PM'd me about further information, which many did, if I could do some basic due diligence on the poster and determine that they were well-known and reputable, or at least have shared real information in the past, then I was very forthcoming with additional information.
Those who had few or no posts, or posts only asking for information or (ahem) complaining about the lack of information in someone's post, got no response.
Sorry, man, that's how I'm going to play this one.
I made a promise so I won't say too much. Your both newbies however, I will validate the valuable information given to me from Phaik Naim via PM.
Orroz Qse,
Attacking someone with a hot 3 credits to you name will not get you much around here. If you're trying to make contacts which I find to be very useful here a change of attitude will be needed. Along with some serious credibility posts!
Phaik Naim,
Don`t feed the animals/chaos.
Not to start a flame, but as a new member of the board, with limited experience (okay three so far, but I need to start somewhere/sometime) but this post is limited in its usefulness. Basically my last three were a waste of money, the massages were never that good, and no fun, at the same place! I would write if it contributed anything, and I already posted a review. PN, any more information you can share besides close in suburb not Springfield/PWC?
I am trying to earn senior status the legitimate way with useful posts, after all ain't this what this is all about?
I saw the ad on CL and cross referenced it with the address on ******** website. I was greeted by a mid 30's K girl. She is a 7 with a thin body. i asked for more options and was presented with Tami. She is very cute and has a nice attitude. The do not have a table but they do have a chair that can easily accommodate a 400 pounder. The chair shower (CS) was a first for me and is clearly better than no shower. She did a pretty good CS with lot of attention. Sauna was also nice and hot.
Massage is mediocre but she willingly accepted a reverse massage and she enjoyed it. She is good with back walk and the place is set up for it.
Service is surprisingly better than most other NOVA places.
Only members with more than 10 reports may PM me. I will be happy to give general advice to anyone but for several reasons, I do not give out specific details to newbies. I am sorry and please do not take it personal.
I made a promise so I won't say too much. Your both newbies however, I will validate the valuable information given to me from Phaik Naim via PM.
Orroz Qse,
Attacking someone with a hot 3 credits to you name will not get you much around here. If you're trying to make contacts which I find to be very useful here a change of attitude will be needed. Along with some serious credibility posts!
Phaik Naim,
Don`t feed the animals/chaos.I certainly understand. Reading many posts, once again, it is the return of the proverbial the chicken or the egg. As an admitted newbie, info is great to gain new ground on untapped terrain. As a senior (like yourself and others) your hard work should not be free either. Where a compromise can be made I am not sure, since it seems that with respect to seniority, or lack thereof in my case, birds of a feather will flock together. After all, what do seniors gain in helping newbies?
My initial reaction to Phaik Naim was that this post was useless for me to verify. It basically went like this: "Hey guys, there is a place in VA. You wouldn't know it, but if you wink the right way, you'll be happy. "
For newbies such as me, take note: I am seeing the following pattern: info is put out to initiate PM dialogue, in which details are given out on a per individual basis. Even if you RTFF and still can discern the info, PM info will get you as far as you have contributed. The posts in the forum aren't necessarily for everyone.
That is the take home lesson. I get it. That said. Newbies unite!
Asian Needs
04-11-09, 11:25
this post was edited by asian needs
This is from an experience a few weeks ago, when she was still working in Fair Oaks. I believe she is now operating in Arlington.
If anything, Elena is prettier than the pictures suggest, and actually a little thinner. She is really Russian (speaks the language) and was very polite and sweet. Locale was an otherwise empty rental with one room set up as a massage room.- generally lacking in atmosphere. Her massage technique was below average, compared to some of the AMPs I've visited.
Despite her good looks and scanty attire the menu was actually quite limited.- essentially standard Nova with a little roaming. $. 8 for the hour, and I left a small tip because she was so nice (didn't seem expected, and certainly wasn't asked for). This was my first FBSM experience (all previous experiences were at various area AMPs), so I was not sure what to expect. I considered it too expensive for services rendered and will not repeat. YMMV, of course.
AKFourtySeven
04-11-09, 15:31
Maybe it was the bathroom stop that did it? You could have requested an alcohol rubdown. How clean is that place? There was an article in the WashPost about some lady who caught MRSA after stubbing her toe in a day spa. I usually wipe down with an alcohol soaked washcloth when I get home and then I shower.
Keep it safe.
I certainly understand. Reading many posts, once again, it is the return of the proverbial the chicken or the egg. As an admitted newbie, info is great to gain new ground on untapped terrain. As a senior (like yourself and others) your hard work should not be free either. Where a compromise can be made I am not sure, since it seems that with respect to seniority, or lack thereof in my case, birds of a feather will flock together. After all, what do seniors gain in helping newbies?
My initial reaction to Phaik Naim was that this post was useless for me to verify. It basically went like this: "Hey guys, there is a place in VA. You wouldn't know it, but if you wink the right way, you'll be happy. "
For newbies such as me, take note: I am seeing the following pattern: info is put out to initiate PM dialogue, in which details are given out on a per individual basis. Even if you RTFF and still can discern the info, PM info will get you as far as you have contributed. The posts in the forum aren't necessarily for everyone.
That is the take home lesson. I get it. That said. Newbies unite!
I am responding to your post because, my post also said to PM. I completely understand the chicken and egg thing. I was in your shoes a few years ago. BTW, I have over 200 posts and over 150 of them are reviews and I still do not get PM replies from some members and I do not let it bother me.
Having said that, I am a visitor and I like to respect the host forum. NOVA forum maintains a culture of limited info on the public forum and more info in the private messages. I am not here to question the reasons.
FYI, in the last week I had 6 posts but replied to 20 PMs to local forum members. The point is senior members do spend a lot of time replying to PMs knowing full well that posting all the details on the forum would have saved us more time. Bottom line (for NOVA) is that PM exchange of info is not for selfish reasons, but to protect the providers from getting in trouble and risk loosing a good thing.
The place is real and massage is offered. The girl in question (the 9+ on the LARS scale one) no longer provides massage and hasn't in some time. The new, regular, girl works only Wednesday and was described to me as "old." When I asked how old, the woman giggled and said "pretty old." Maybe it was some joke I didn't get, but I think she was serious. You can take one for the team if you want, but I don't think your experience is likely to be good. They can scramble another woman to do massages on off days (if you say you have been there before) but I didn't want to wait around for a glorified hair stylist in a white coat to slap at my spine. I did not stay to see who would arrive to do the massage because, as I mentioned, I was told the woman was older and was not a therapist, but a stylist who could do a massage for me. Therefore, I don't know if the therapists are racially Asian or otherwise (didn't ask, didn't see, didn't care but it's probable they are Asian). I did not see the massage room or quality of that room (i.e. cleanliness, size, privacy).
Things change, that's life.
I had a dream that I was 112 years old in Vienna, but Mimi made me feel so much younger!
Too bad it was an only dream!
Been there couple days ago. Nice place, clean, nice shower room, nice hot sauna. Tina was the provider. Bit older, 40-45, face looked good, little spare tire arround waist. TS okay, had better in other places, massage great, she asked if I like walk on back, I said yes. She actually walked on my whole body except head. Finish kinda rough, like someone said before, shake spraypaint can, it took her long time. Will probably repeat, if in the area, but ask for someone else.
Phaik Naim
04-11-09, 20:53
The place is real and massage is offered. The girl in question (the 9+ on the LARS scale one) no longer provides massage and hasn't in some time. The new, regular, girl works only Wednesday and was described to me as "old." When I asked how old, the woman giggled and said "pretty old." Maybe it was some joke I didn't get, but I think she was serious. You can take one for the team if you want, but I don't think your experience is likely to be good. They can scramble another woman to do massages on off days (if you say you have been there before) but I didn't want to wait around for a glorified hair stylist in a white coat to slap at my spine. I did not stay to see who would arrive to do the massage because, as I mentioned, I was told the woman was older and was not a therapist, but a stylist who could do a massage for me. Therefore, I don't know if the therapists are racially Asian or otherwise (didn't ask, didn't see, didn't care but it's probable they are Asian). I did not see the massage room or quality of that room (i.e. cleanliness, size, privacy).
Things change, that's life.This is news to me. Bad news. And I have never seen another provider there, so I can't confirm or correct what was said about the age of the alternate provider. Damn. I apologize and am glad you didn't TOFTT given the response you got. I think I know who gave it to you too, I'm going to have to do some recon and figure out WTF happened.
1. Young
2. Janet
3. Disappointing
4. PM for details
Not sure what happened either. As of the earlier part of this past week A---- was working. Mid to early 30s, for looks I would say 8 with a happy ending but I had to do a lot of talking to achieve. I believe she was a little leery of me. Week before last A---- was also there.
The place is real and massage is offered. The girl in question (the 9+ on the LARS scale one) no longer provides massage and hasn't in some time. The new, regular, girl works only Wednesday and was described to me as "old." When I asked how old, the woman giggled and said "pretty old." Maybe it was some joke I didn't get, but I think she was serious. You can take one for the team if you want, but I don't think your experience is likely to be good. They can scramble another woman to do massages on off days (if you say you have been there before) but I didn't want to wait around for a glorified hair stylist in a white coat to slap at my spine. I did not stay to see who would arrive to do the massage because, as I mentioned, I was told the woman was older and was not a therapist, but a stylist who could do a massage for me. Therefore, I don't know if the therapists are racially Asian or otherwise (didn't ask, didn't see, didn't care but it's probable they are Asian). I did not see the massage room or quality of that room (i.e. cleanliness, size, privacy).
Things change, that's life.
Secret Rom
04-12-09, 22:25
Hello guys,
I am new in the forums.
I just need 2 ask if any body have info about how to reach Linda.
The phone is out of service lately.
Thx
Shy Rookie
04-13-09, 09:44
This is news to me. Bad news. And I have never seen another provider there, so I can't confirm or correct what was said about the age of the alternate provider. Damn. I apologize and am glad you didn't TOFTT given the response you got. I think I know who gave it to you too, I'm going to have to do some recon and figure out WTF happened.Phaik,
A word of advice. Remember, true UTR info is valuable. You already demostrated the ability to distinguish between good, general, postable info (about places like sunstar, kims, etc.), and this UTR thing that you don't want "to mess up. " Unfortunately it might now be messed up. Next time you have juicy UTR info. Don't post it for the world to see even if you didn't name names and places. Because guys here can figure it out. Instead, use it to gain info from very senior, trusted members through PMs. You offer something new. Some of them will help you in return (some will ignore you thinking your new due to few posts. But hey. That's their loss).
Posting it just brings all kind of attention to something that was just a UTR situation. Looks like this girl just got new attention from at least 2 complete strangers given the two posts here. And either she's being more selective or the management noticed and let her go. Or something along those lines.
I've been on this site for 3 years. Never posted once under this name in this city since all the info you need for general places is on the forum. Plus. The newbies just seem to want to have a sure thing when in reality, the true art and fun of the hobby is to see what you can get when you don't know what's going to happen. I can say from personal experience that you can get a lot more from places that appear to be just rub-and-tug or even legit places. But you have to work at it, be a semi regular, be nice, etc. It's worth it in the end since you're with ladies that won't fuck around with just anyone and that appriciate your visits. Rather than the DC scene where it's "now serving #842. "
And since I'm breaking my silence on this board, I have to thank all who posted over the past 3 years. Esp. Seniors. You have my gratitude. Sorry I don't post. I have no desire to be a "senior member" and I don't ask for anything in return. I have to say though that I'm shocked so many folks get around even more than I do. For awhile, a couple of years ago, I'd go to some really obscure places only to find a note hanging on the girl's clit saying "LoveLOS or Lex (enter any senior's name) waz here. " I thought I was cutting-edge until I found these forums.
You have to be just a little more specific than "Linda" for anyone to help you. I personally know at least 3 Linda's... Which one would you like help with? Also, WHICH phone is out of service?
Hello guys,
I am new in the forums.
I just need 2 ask if any body have info about how to reach Linda.
The phone is out of service lately.
Thx
AKFourtySeven
04-15-09, 13:17
This place is in a professional building across the street from the fire station.
Masseus was in her mid 50s.She gave a great massage but no extras.Covered my erogenous zones with a towel lol Would not repeat unless I want a great massage.
Secret Rom
04-15-09, 23:04
I am asking about Linda 7 corners!
You have to be just a little more specific than "Linda" for anyone to help you. I personally know at least 3 Linda's... Which one would you like help with? Also, WHICH phone is out of service?
Roamin Roman
04-16-09, 00:11
Figured I should post an update with regard Linda, since there seems to be some interest in her whereabouts nowadays.
Here's what I have, basically: She's been in and out of the area lately (to Seattle, among other places, I believe). She may be getting things ready for Spring, when monger hormones blossom anew, and preparing to open one or two new CCs in the DC Metro area. I know this was one thought she had.
However, I also ran into her at (of all places) an area Post Office, and she was mailing a couple large packages to Shanghai. (I recognized her voice when she answered her cell phone. She was two places behind me in the line! ) I helped her get the right customs labels for her packages. After I mailed my letters, I waited for her and gave her a lift back to her apartment. Unfortunately, I neglected to get her cell phone number. The old phone is non-working, so I'm hoping she'll call my monger phone. If not, I'm gonna miss that gal. She wasn't "officially" working any more, but even at 41 she can still work it.
I'll post any updates/info when (or IF) I get any.
RR
You have to be just a little more specific than "Linda" for anyone to help you. I personally know at least 3 Linda's... Which one would you like help with? Also, WHICH phone is out of service?
Hello guys,
I am new in the forums.
I just need 2 ask if any body have info about how to reach Linda.
The phone is out of service lately.
Thx
Interesting mix of Japanese & Taipei-China.
I wouldn't miss this one! :p
MnV
I had a dream that I was 112 years old in Vienna, but Mimi made me feel so much younger!
Too bad it was an only dream!Went back today. Mimi is delightful and is in no rush. Mamasan says business is very slow so everyone should try it before it is gone.
Interesting mix of Japanese & Taipei-China.
I wouldn't miss this one! :p
MnV
I decided to try this place yet again due to this report and a review I saw on The Erotic Review. I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy taking away the football everytime. It looks like from the Washington City Paper ads that she moved from FCCC to TCCC. She is definitely old and not a good looker. Out of curiousity have you CC frequenters tried out the other places like DD or Sky?
Bradley1,
I stand by my report and frankly am surprised you even ventured into a NOVA CC based on all your previous negative CC posts. These girls are rotated on a fairly frequent basis in and out of the state, for you to never find one satisfactory sounds a bit strange to me.
In any event and as recommended in the past I would suggest you save your cash and look elsewhere.
Regards,
MnV
I decided to try this place yet again due to this report and a review I saw on The Erotic Review. I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy taking away the football everytime. It looks like from the Washington City Paper ads that she moved from FCCC to TCCC. She is definitely old and not a good looker. Out of curiousity have you CC frequenters tried out the other places like DD or Sky?
Roamin Roman
04-17-09, 00:31
I decided to try this place yet again due to this report and a review I saw on The Erotic Review. I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy taking away the football everytime. It looks like from the Washington City Paper ads that she moved from FCCC to TCCC. She is definitely old and not a good looker. Out of curiousity have you CC frequenters tried out the other places like DD or Sky?
Well, a man's opinions and preferences are hard things to argue with, and beauty (as they say) is in the eye of the beholder. Your rating standards must be radically different from the plain ol' rubes and "CC frequenters" (interesting term) that visit the TCCC and FCCC. Barring a photo, which most if not all of the CC gals would avoid letting us take, there's really no way for any of us to compare our rating standards for the CC ladies.
Since you've now had two bad or substandard experiences there, you might want to refraining from any more visits. When (or IF) Linda gets back in town for good and decides whether to open another CC in the area, she's pretty likely to have some newer, younger ladies. But, again, even those might not meet your standards. I'm not trying to fault your standards nor gainsay your disappointment with the CCs; I'm only saying that they're not likely to ever meet your preferences, based on what you've posted and what others (the "CC Frequenters") have found there.
DC Eros has Asian ladies among its DC/MD/NoVa stables, but they tend to be rather pricey for what is essentially the same service. Perhaps trying that venue (and maybe even giving a report on your findings) will open up new horizons for your pursuit of the ideal K-girl. Otherwise, I'm at a loss as to what to say or recommend, Brad. The only other places Yours Truly knows about are AMPs and CCs that are dirty, have old providers, and give lousy service. And we've already been down that road.
Interesting mix of Japanese & Taipei-China.
I wouldn't miss this one! :p
MnV
Moon, my man, I will accept your recco as a challenge, of sorts. My guess, knowing your standards are about on a par with mine (I hope ;) ), is that Joni will be an interesting lady with whom to make an acquaintance. It sounds as though Linda is at least keeping her options open here, with respect to the other existing CCs. At least she's rotating in some new faces, although it could be Linda's "supervisors" who've sent some more talent down from NY to cover during this period of flux and uncertainty. I hope to have some intel soon, which I can share with you to reciprocate. Props, amigo.
RR
Bradley1,
I stand by my report and frankly am surprised you even ventured into a NOVA CC based on all your previous negative CC posts. These girls are rotated on a fairly frequent basis in and out of the state, for you to never find one satisfactory sounds a bit strange to me.
In any event and as recommended in the past I would suggest you save your cash and look elsewhere.
Regards,
MnV
Like I said I was once again fooled by your report and this time a review on The Erotic Review. I don't think it's strange that I rarely find someone satisfactory at the CC when it's consistently bad. The only girl I appreciated was Lily and she constantly talked about how slow it was at the CC and how there were only one or two customers a day. I almost laughed as I could pretty much imagine that they were primarily certain USGers. What I find stranger is that one of the low end establishments garners so many positive reports on this board despite DC AMPs and other high quality AAMPs being in the direct vicinity. This is why I asked if you have been to DD or Sky as a basis of comparison.
The last non CC spa I went to was in DC it was Orange and I had a nice time, for visits before that you can read through my posts. I have read through yours.
Funny, you seem to be the only one "fooled" by my posts. I still believe something is not right about you or your postings. Others can decide for themselves.
MnV
Like I said I was once again fooled by your report and this time a review on The Erotic Review. I don't think it's strange that I rarely find someone satisfactory at the CC when it's consistently bad. The only girl I appreciated was Lily and she constantly talked about how slow it was at the CC and how there were only one or two customers a day. I almost laughed as I could pretty much imagine that they were primarily certain USGers. What I find stranger is that one of the low end establishments garners so many positive reports on this board despite DC AMPs and other high quality AAMPs being in the direct vicinity. This is why I asked if you have been to DD or Sky as a basis of comparison.
Well, a man's opinions and preferences are hard things to argue with, and beauty (as they say) is in the eye of the beholder. Your rating standards must be radically different from the plain ol' rubes and "CC frequenters" (interesting term) that visit the TCCC and FCCC. Barring a photo, which most if not all of the CC gals would avoid letting us take, there's really no way for any of us to compare our rating standards for the CC ladies.
Thanks for your take RR. I have tried out the other stables which is why I wondered if there was ever a basis of comparison because the CC is just not that great. Also I'd like to believe this board can be used for accurate reporting whether it be positive or negative. I can't believe I'm being persuaded to not post anymore about the CC. Am I to believe that I can only post about the CC if it's a positive report?
And for reporting sake I saw both girls at the TCCC and they were both not that great. One was older and fair-skinned and named Joy while the other was shorter and had a squashed face and darker. I went with Joy but they both rank very low in terms of looks.
Thanks for your take RR. I have tried out the other stables which is why I wondered if there was ever a basis of comparison because the CC is just not that great. Also I'd like to believe this board can be used for accurate reporting whether it be positive or negative. I can't believe I'm being persuaded to not post anymore about the CC. Am I to believe that I can only post about the CC if it's a positive report?
And for reporting sake I saw both girls at the TCCC and they were both not that great. One was older and fair-skinned and named Joy while the other was shorter and had a squashed face and darker. I went with Joy but they both rank very low in terms of looks. You know, I thought my standards where high, but I think yours are a bit out-of-line when it comes to the TCCCs. Think about the price of the TCCC. Do you think you'll find Gingers or Mary-Anns there? The price practically guarantees no Gingers.
Personally, I think Joy is cute. In a Mary-Anne sort of way. I was very happy with her. And she provides service better than most of the expensive ones. Mongers with an Asian thing would most likely think she's cute too.
Hillofbeans
04-17-09, 12:19
The only girl I appreciated was Lily and she constantly talked about how slow it was at the CC and how there were only one or two customers a day. I almost laughed as I could pretty much imagine that they were primarily certain USGers.And we know that AMP girls would never lie about how many fat greasy guys had been pawing their wares before you came in. I myself have the remarkable distinction of having been the provider's the first customer of the day each and every time I've been to an AMP.
What are the odds?
And for reporting sake I saw both girls at the TCCC and they were both not that great. One was older and fair-skinned and named Joy while the other was shorter and had a squashed face and darker. I went with Joy but they both rank very low in terms of looks.
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As found today over in Escort Section.
Just the facts:
- Can confirm the details in her one review on T**.
- Great attitude, great kisser, there to please you and enjoys herself.
- Awesome clit and great muscle control.
- Tip her - her rate is far too low - better value than your standard AMP.
- YMMV on a second pop given the agency she's with, but my mileage was great.
Since I've been PMed w/ questions:
- Asian Joy. CC. She's Japanese and has Geisha qualities and attitude.
- She's won't be here long.
---------------------------------------------------
Yup, it sounds like Jack had a pretty good time to me! :D
MnV
Yup, it sounds like Jack had a pretty good time to me! :D
MnV
Everyone's entitled to their opinion whether it be a senior member like you or a regular member like me or someone with only two posts like Jack.
I'm glad you've come to realize that in our short banter session.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion whether it be a senior member like you or a regular member like me or someone with only two posts like Jack.
Roamin Roman
04-18-09, 01:14
Just the facts:
- Asian Joy
- CC
- She's Japanese and has Geisha qualities and attitude.
- She's won't be here long.
- Can confirm the details in her one review on T**.
- Great attitude, great kisser, there to please you and enjoys herself.
- Awesome clit and great muscle control.
- Tip her. Her rate is far too low. Better value than your standard AMP.
- YMMV on a second pop given the agency she's with, but my mileage was great.
Yup, it sounds like Jack had a pretty good time to me! :D MnVAll that's missing is that catchy theme music. Just like ol' Jack Webb, to give "just the facts." (Notice, he provided his follow-up report on "Friday." Somehow, I suspect Joni will be his Girl Friday, at least for the next 2 weeks.)
Thanks for your take RR. I have tried out the other stables which is why I wondered if there was ever a basis of comparison because the CC is just not that great. Also I'd like to believe this board can be used for accurate reporting whether it be positive or negative. I can't believe I'm being persuaded to not post anymore about the CC. Am I to believe that I can only post about the CC if it's a positive report? No one's saying you can't or shouldn't post negative reports about the CCs, Brad. In fact, one or two others have also posted reviews of their disappointment with them. But those reports are for isolated instances; yours seem to indicate universal disappointment, which goes against the experiences of many others on this board. So, again, it just seems to be a difference in tastes, nothing more and nothing less.
We're all men here (at least, most of us here are. There are some wimps that are just passing thru, passing gas, or get tossed into harbors or sandboxes), so we're all pretty secure in what we like and don't like. Most of the guys here are the same group who recall the level of service at area AMPs back in the Golden Days, so they're no strangers to the field. Yet, they seem largely satisfied with the service they are getting at the CCs.
You mentioned that the two gals you saw at the TCCC had pale skin or a "squashed face. " I haven't seen them (...yet), so I'll take your word. But, frankly, when Little Roman is discussing policy or reviewing the particulars of some legislation, he isn't overly concerned about the constituent's complexion or facial bone stucture. (He is, however, very much concerned about his own "bone structure." :D ) Besides, not every customer whom the CC gals see each day is a "Golden Adonis." So, if a gal happens to have a squashed face, well, I'm sure she has other redeeming qualities to make up for it.
The pushback you're feeling over your reports on the CCs is due to the fact that we're seeing a different reality than what you are finding. That being the case, you now know how to make your decisions based on our reports, and we know how to interpret yours. As long as we're all satisfied in the end, what's to sweat about it?
I truly wish you luck in finding what you're looking for, but I think you'll have a tough time locating it for a reasonable price. I learned long ago the old rule: When all else fails, lower your standards. Besides, I personally prefer an older provider who gives lousy service in a dirty location. There's just something about that combination that adds to the whole sleazy ambience of the experience.
In the mean time, during my discussions with the constituents and lobbyists, I'll be keeping an eye out for Steve Canyon's "Dragon Lady." If she happens to be available, I'll give you a heads-up. Fair enough?
RR
Roamin Roman
04-18-09, 01:19
Everyone's entitled to their opinion whether it be a senior member like you or a regular member like me or someone with only two posts like Jack.No need to have an inferiority complex, Brad. Yuze iz one a da Seniors now, which means your reports are henceforth unimpeachable...just like ours, right?
After reading all, I've tried number I have and it worked. She answered the phone, we talked little bit, seems to be ok. For people I gave this number to, if it doesn't work the first time try again. It may say something like "the person you're tying to reach is not available try again later", or "this person has a mail box which is not set up yet". Just wait 20-30 min and try again. I'll go back in next couple of weeks, just waiting for girls to change. The last one few weeks ago wasn't really my cup of tea. Chubby. Will let you know.
Figured I should post an update with regard Linda, since there seems to be some interest in her whereabouts nowadays.
Here's what I have, basically: She's been in and out of the area lately (to Seattle, among other places, I believe). She may be getting things ready for Spring, when monger hormones blossom anew, and preparing to open one or two new CCs in the DC Metro area. I know this was one thought she had.
However, I also ran into her at (of all places) an area Post Office, and she was mailing a couple large packages to Shanghai. (I recognized her voice when she answered her cell phone. She was two places behind me in the line! ) I helped her get the right customs labels for her packages. After I mailed my letters, I waited for her and gave her a lift back to her apartment. Unfortunately, I neglected to get her cell phone number. The old phone is non-working, so I'm hoping she'll call my monger phone. If not, I'm gonna miss that gal. She wasn't "officially" working any more, but even at 41 she can still work it.
I'll post any updates/info when (or IF) I get any.
RR
No need to have an inferiority complex, Brad. Yuze iz one a da Seniors now, which means your reports are henceforth unimpeachable...just like ours, right?
Ok fine, someone show Brad the secret Sen. handshake and let's be done with it, and yes it does involve a beautiful CC girl! ;)
MnV
Moon View, Thanks for the lead on Joye (that's the way she spelled it for me). She was everything you said and more. She may not have been up to Bradley standards, but she exceeded mine. She was very anxious to please and very receptive. Some of the ladies that Bradley refers to are beautiful women and occasionally you get one that goes above and beyond, but they are too mechanical for me. That said, I would add I have never been disappointed with any of my experiences with any of the ladies at TCCC or the other CC's. Although they may not be a perfect 10, they have all provided the services that I paid for and you can't beat the price IMHO. So, again, thanks for the lead and I hope to visit our little japanese geisha again before she departs.
Moon View, Thanks for the lead on Joye (that's the way she spelled it for me). She was everything you said and more. She may not have been up to Bradley standards, but she exceeded mine. She was very anxious to please and very receptive. Some of the ladies that Bradley refers to are beautiful women and occasionally you get one that goes above and beyond, but they are too mechanical for me. That said, I would add I have never been disappointed with any of my experiences with any of the ladies at TCCC or the other CC's. Although they may not be a perfect 10, they have all provided the services that I paid for and you can't beat the price IMHO. So, again, thanks for the lead and I hope to visit our little japanese geisha again before she departs.
Just Ken,
Whether it be joni or joye, our "little Japanese geisha" is a perfect name for her!! Glad you liked her style!! :D
MnV
Pilot Aviator
04-20-09, 20:47
<Pardon the musical theme here>
Rainy days and Mondays don't always get me down....and as it turned into a slower than expected day (a 33 rpm vice 78 spinner of a day), an earlier than usual departure found me, not down by the old mill stream, but down at the Bay.
Now I did not sit on the dock, but I did bump into another fine fellow who was just leaving as I rang the bell -- sorry for that surprise to whoever it was.
I'd made an appointment and was happy to see CoCo had returned from her two week vacation. I paid the usual for the hour and since the CD player was not a Karaoke machine, I abandoned the thoughts of singing and simply relaxed into a nice dream state.
For those that have not met, Coco is a wonderful person, with very strong hands -- truly a talent when it comes to providing a great massage.
I highly recommend and will definitely repeat.
Always be nice to the ladies
PA
I have been in VA for 2 years and for the most part the dried up Oriental Express has not been very satisfying to either lobido or soul.
April 22, this changed for the minute when I visited 21155 (as advertised on CL). There I saw BB and she was real fine. 29 (as she claims) was wearinga denim mini making her look like a young beach bunny, sexy and slim. Nice little eye candy and the tiggles were still perky with the best painted up "A", for the Orient.
Passible rub and nice service. Tried to get 2 bills to complete service because, as she explained, she is not old and dried up like the usual fare in the area. I guess he has had a few of you come to visit. I told her the usual in about. 8 and all I brought was a C. She will try to jack you up before climbing aboard.
In total if I am going to rate her I would say, compared to what I have met in the area she is a straight A+ student but by my usual, I've been to Colombia standards I would rate:
Face = C+ - B
Shape = A-
Service = B (C if you consider the shakedown)
Personality = B
Therapy = B
Table shower = B+ (though she did spend a loy of time washing the crack.)
In conclusion I will visit again. In consideration of this are she is the best I have seen in years and I would like to enjoy before she leaves in the next couple of weeks. The big plus, they have a table shower! For 1. 8 the dog in me got stroked as well!
Let me know how your experience was.
PS: I am still looking for the loving Latina if anyone has their little treat and is willing to share. A latina with her shape will take me to heaven, thankfor the consideration.
A Plus
Bonnie
Attitude and Service B Plus
Seniors and Trusted members PM for details
Yea, I know it's in PWC Sleaze
Stay Sober
04-23-09, 22:12
Congrats on the 1 year and 7 months!
Again I WAY TO GO!!!
JJ
Thank you my friend. It has been a long and hard battle, but I am doing it. Sobriety is good for me! I am healthier, harder, and more intuned to the needs of the ladies! wink wink
Stay Sober
04-23-09, 22:16
I think the terminology goes something like this. dried drunk, the same person will drink again, you're in relapse before you ever pick up the drink/drug. There's a lot more but if what they say is true .........................................
Close, but no cigar!!! Let me explain! (SORRY TO BE WORDY!)
What is a dry drunk, and the 'dry drunk syndrome' as it is sometimes called? It can best be described as someone who fits one of two conditions. The first is someone who has given up drinking and drugging and not made any internal or emotional changes, they stay the same but the substance is gone. Or in the second case what was once someone abstinent and on a progressive path of recovery has slowly returned to chaotic and unrealistic thinking.
Being active in your addiction sets up many trains of thought, attitudes, feelings, and actions that are problematic. Simply removing the alcohol or drugs without changing these underlying factors will produce a dry drunk syndrome. The dry drunk really refers to a condition and not the person. It is important to recognize a reversion back to our old ways of thinking and acting, or lack of progress in moving forward in recovery.
The dry drunk can be a precursor to the beginnings of relapse, the AA Big Book describes this condition as being "restless, irritable, and discontented". This set of attitudes can apply to anyone who is chemically dependent, or even those were not.
Roamin Roman
04-24-09, 00:05
What is a dry drunk, and the 'dry drunk syndrome' as it is sometimes called? It can best be described as someone who fits one of two conditions. The first is someone who has given up drinking and drugging and not made any internal or emotional changes, they stay the same but the substance is gone. Or in the second case what was once someone abstinent and on a progressive path of recovery has slowly returned to chaotic and unrealistic thinking.
Being active in your addiction sets up many trains of thought, attitudes, feelings, and actions that are problematic. Simply removing the alcohol or drugs without changing these underlying factors will produce a dry drunk syndrome. The dry drunk really refers to a condition and not the person. It is important to recognize a reversion back to our old ways of thinking and acting, or lack of progress in moving forward in recovery.
The dry drunk can be a precursor to the beginnings of relapse, the AA Big Book describes this condition as being "restless, irritable, and discontented". This set of attitudes can apply to anyone who is chemically dependent, or even those were not.Now, gentlemen, before Admin steps in and deletes your posts on the premise that the discussion is unrelated to the purpose of this database (i.e., exchanging information about finding/meeting women), let me see if I can relate it to that purpose:
(1) The logical progression of Stay Sober's and A John's thread: What is a dry monger and what is "Dry Monger Syndrome"? The first would be someone who has given up mongering but has not changed internally. The women are gone from his life, but the dry monger still drives up-and-down various loops & strolls, forelornly looking at the local talent. Or, he parks outside the local AMPs and watches the other mongers go in and out (so to speak). The second describes someone who left mongering for a while, but has since returned to the same chaotic and unrealistic belief that he will actually encounter Paris Hilton on CL or Rio Hamasaki in an AMP or Xaviera Hollander on a local stroll. As for being "restless, irritable, and discontented," I can't say that that is necessarily applicable only to dry mongers. In fact, it could probably describe any monger...until he finds satisfaction. :D
(2) As for what this might mean, in practical terms? Well, it probably means that there really are some women who look ugly at 3 am, whether or not the lights are off. And, it probably means that the CL honey who we called, and whose pictures look too good to be true, really is a ROB. And, it probably means that the same AMP that gave us lousy service the last time we visited will give us the same lousy service on the next visit. But, unlike the dry drunk, the solution for the dry monger is monger harder. Plan with the big head, and act with the little head.
Seriously, amigos, I'm not trying to make fun of a recovering alcoholic's condition or daily life. I truly wish the best for you, one day at a time. Congrats on the milestone of sorts, and continued success each day.
R::R
I recently took a HOLIDAY. It wasn't the BEST, but it's parallel to it. I decided to try a different place. Bad choice. First off when I walked in the talent opened the door to let another monger out. I don't get wierd when I see a fellow hobbyist, but some others may. Kinda unprofessional. She should have looked out the door to make sure the coast was clear. Just my opinion. It all went down hill from there. I asked her if they were busy. She said no. So I pay my fee and am then told I would have to wait for about 10 minutes. First red flag. I wait in the room, not for 10...not for 20...but for 30 minutes!. I would have walked if not for the fact that I already paid. Talent was an attractive later 20's to early 30's. Nice rack. TS was average. Massage was short. Around 25 minutes. I would think if they made me wait for so long they would AT LEAST give me the time I paid for. Not so. HJ was boring and OTC touching was allowed, but she made it a point to almost stand out of hands reach. Thumbs down. Won't be going back.
After reading previous reports, I decided to make the trip again. Tami took care of me. Cute girl, mid to late 30s. Everything as described before, above NoVa standard. They have table shower now. Great. I've tried to see Kay again, but was told she doesn't work anymore. Anyone has any experience with her lately? Please PM me with your info and for details on my session.
Thanks and enjoy the warm weather.
Visited this place just out of curiosity. I usually go to Young's. Tina was my provider. Not good looking, somewhere between 40 and 50. Talked too much. TS okay, massage okay, tried to walk my back, but that room didn't have the set up for it, so just walk my shoulders. No transition from massage to end, no touch, directly went for it. I would repeat, but with someone else.
PM for details if interested.
Stay Sober
04-25-09, 19:16
Seriously, amigos, I'm not trying to make fun of a recovering alcoholic's condition or daily life. I truly wish the best for you, one day at a time. Congrats on the milestone of sorts, and continued success each day.
R::R
Thanks for the support my main Monger Friend!!
Say Sober
Pilot Aviator
04-26-09, 14:32
Just a question.- PM is fine (no need to junk up the boards).
I've tried both hour and half-hour appointments.
On the one side.- the results are generally the same.
On the other.- I find much less satisfaction with the 30 minute slots. Although all the activities are the same, it just "isn't the same".- as this "ticking clock" is driving the timing vice just the enjoyment and natural flow of the appointment.
Perhaps this is truly a YMMV kind of thing.- or perhaps there are some providers that have mastered the 30 minute visit (and I haven't found them).
Thanks. Next report, I promise an update for my ATF place- and it will be for an hour I think
Always be nice to the ladies
PA
To me, the key thing has always been that with the one hour appointment (vs. the 30 minute variety), you usually have the shower. The shower is important because it allows the therapist to be totally confident that the client is as clean as possible. I know many of us will shower at home before visiting the spa. But for others (for example if one is coming from work), this is not practicable.
I'm sure there are exceptions to this as with all rules of thumb. But in general, I think that the cleaner you are (in the eyes of the provider), the better your service will be.
Stay Sober
04-26-09, 23:16
Well gent’s, this is my last report. I am moving on here shortly to San Antonio, TX. And judging by the board, I am S O L!
Anyway, went to my ATF, Kim’s for a last hoorah. Luck was with me and Angie was there! Told her the bad news about me leaving and she was sad (hopefully real, but you never know) Told her I was moving on and this would be my last visit. She said, ”I so sowy, I give you special girl for special farewell” We hugged and kissed, and she left.
Did not catch her name, but oh my GAWD! She was hot! She was about 25 – 30 and had the most perfect Cs ever a woman had!
TS was great, well scrubbed in all the right places. Got back to the room and it was obvious that Angie told her that this was my last visit. She asked about me moving and about why I was leaving! I lay down and she started a very nice and sensual message! Rubbed and squeezed and walked in all the right places.
Well, now she started the soft touch, light rubbing and the tongue came out! So I raised my butt in the air and she continued. Got my first (hopefully not the last) AR! It was just about the most wonderful feeling thing in the world! She really licked that spot like no other!!!
I offered to rub her down, and she obliged. She lies down on her back and let me pull off her panties. I rubbed her feet, calves, and thighs. Then rubbed the special spot! She really seemed to like it. I went downtown and then she really started to squirm. Talk about wet! WOW! Did this for about 10 min, and she told me to get back on the table and relax. Now, I don’t know if it was one of those fake ones or not, but I’ll bet a dollar to a donut that it was real, BBBJ! I finished in her mouth with no swallow, but the sexy spitting sounds. She left to get some hot towels. Spent the next 10-15 min in ecstasy while getting final rubdown.
All told, I was in there for 70 min, I left WAY more tip than required, but I did get exceptional service!!!
Standard is .8 for hour with shower. .4 is normal tip, but I left her something special, no need to discuss it here!
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These last 18 months has been a real release for me. But now that I have overcome alcoholism, and now sober, I am ready to carry on. The deal with my wife was that if I could stay sober for more than a year, I could come home. Well, that time has come. I am going home. I have 3 beautiful children and a wife that want me to come home. And that is what I am going to do. It has been a pleasure and a privilege, but I must carry on. I have a family that needs me and the mongering lifestyle does not lend itself to the family life. Again, thanks for the good times.
I will read the forum for a few more weeks, and all comments are welcome and I will answer any PMs or responses until May 15.
Roamin Roman
Thanks for all the support in my sobriety. This has been a tough struggle and I am well on my way to a new life!
Stay Sober,
Apologies to the other mongers. But since you stated you would continue to monitor this forum, I figured I'd give you some sage advice here.
San Antonio does have some gems. Best way to discover them is at sacurrent.com Ole Lex has recently spent some time there. There are two good AMP's I can recommend. One is on Blanco Rd. not far inside 410. They do advertise "Korean massage" in sacurrent.com. But the place is owned and usually staffed by Chinese. Another good place is on Austin Highway. It's in a very small cluster of buildings. Just look for the address you get from sacurrent.com. When I was there recently they actually had a cute looking older Chinese gal as well as a sweet looking Latina. I had the Chinese and had to do a lot of coaxing. But everything was on the menu.
I've been traveling to SAT for a long time now and the AMP scene has been very slow to develop. Prices are about what they are everywhere else in the country. But I think that the places there try to stay more below the radar since it's really the bible belt.
Enjoy SAT.
LexLuther
Went to Far East on Sunday morning at 10: 15am. First time back for me since they turned over to new management. The facility has not changed. It is still very new, and in great condition. I've heard good things but for some reason, none of those occurred on this trip. Pulled a very polite middle aged k-girl. TS was lacking any cleaning of the important parts.she kept a wet handtowel on those parts the whole time. I removed the towel at one point, and she frowned, almost with anger, and flopped it back on. I knew I was in for a waste of money at that point, but decided to continue. TOFTT, so to speak. And a clearly not eager to walk out soaking wet. Massage was so so, and lasted the entire hour. Standard 1-hour fee and a jackson for the tip. She indicated that she had worked very hard for one hour, but somehow I did not feel the need to pull out the second jax. I was kind and polite, but will not repeat. I must either look like LE (you know, short, fat, bald, beard. Just like LE), or I missed that day in class when they taught the secret handshake
Being a long-time monger. All the way back to HWC (ahh. The good ole days), I thought I'd report this experience because I was expecting at least standard NOVA.
I know this conflicts with some previous reports. So anyone with better information can brief me in a PM.
After a disappointment at Far East earlier Sunday, I decided to venture off to see my ATF at Holiday that same afternoon. While there was a recent negative post, I can say with confidence that I have rarely been disappointed there. I’ve gotten to know the main lady quite well and her soft massage and finish are slow, long lasting, and quite reliable.
Unfortunately, she’s down with a cold, and a new girl was promised. Tina is late 30’s, and heavier than the other providers there. She was very playful, and high spirited. She gave an excellent TS – got all the right places over and over.
Back to the room, face down, soft massage. Highly skilled. Lot’s of tickle moves. Great foot work. Jumps on the table for a little B2B action without a top on. Lots of licking. Great AR – first time ever at Holiday. "Turn over", and she got to work on the General. Outstanding work. Slow, concentrated on the right sections. Knows how to edge. Great new moves – the fake BBJ was enjoyable even though I knew it was fake. Popped, relaxed, hot towel, bottle of water, a little more head rub, and out in 40 minutes. A little fast, but worth the trouble to try the new girl. Would recommend. She’s average looking (as they mostly all are at Holiday), but knows her craft.
BTW – I have figured out the TCCC and 7CCC (did not think this would still ring! ) numbers. Very proud of my research skills. Took a little time but I have them. I’ve called TCCC but J is very cautious with new callers. ‘You have a friend call me and introduce you’ she said. Long time monger, but unfortunately very skittish and infrequent poster so I’ve not earned the right to ask for that favor. If I ever do figure it out I’ll post a report. Sad to hear that Sookie is no longer there because she looked fine.
AKFourtySeven
04-28-09, 07:53
So where is Holiday?
I've never heard of it befoire.
Fun Cowboy
04-28-09, 19:47
Over the years, I've done both hour and half hours at MPs. I prefer the hour if the service is reliable, but will often do the half hour to try a place out. Around here I've noticed that an hour is not an hour, so last time I tried a half and ended up with about 40 minutes, but minus the shower.
I say both have their uses.
cowboy up
DiryDirtyMind
04-29-09, 01:36
Stay Sober,
Apologies to the other mongers. But since you stated you would continue to monitor this forum, I figured I'd give you some sage advice here.
San Antonio does have some gems. Best way to discover them is at sacurrent.com Ole Lex has recently spent some time there. There are two good AMP's I can recommend. One is on Blanco Rd. not far inside 410. They do advertise "Korean massage" in sacurrent.com. But the place is owned and usually staffed by Chinese. Another good place is on Austin Highway. It's in a very small cluster of buildings. Just look for the address you get from sacurrent.com. When I was there recently they actually had a cute looking older Chinese gal as well as a sweet looking Latina. I had the Chinese and had to do a lot of coaxing. But everything was on the menu.
I've been traveling to SAT for a long time now and the AMP scene has been very slow to develop. Prices are about what they are everywhere else in the country. But I think that the places there try to stay more below the radar since it's really the bible belt.
Enjoy SAT.
LexLutherGood luck sober your not gonna be missing the hobby here, try VIP or LA pm me if ya need details
Lex might be referring to 1956
So where is Holiday?
I've never heard of it befoire.Check Craig's List:
You need Full-body Swedish massage. by friendly female Asian staff. Showers and hot towels available, Walk-ins welcome. Holiday Spa, 14240 Sullyfield Circle, Suite R, Chantilly, VA. 10 am to 10 pm Monday thru Saturday, and noon to 10 pm Sunday.703-263-9066.
TwistedBrother
04-29-09, 19:04
Thanks for all the support in my sobriety. This has been a tough struggle and I am well on my way to a new life!
I've been where you are ... and hope to be there again ... good luck, man.
AKFourtySeven
04-30-09, 07:53
Thanks for the info.
I recall k didn't get very good reviews.
I hope Holliday is better.
Fun Cowboy
04-30-09, 18:38
Head down to Pine yesterday. Standard $60 half $80 full hour, I opted for a half since I didn't have much time. So, so massage by a 40ish looking woman. She did the walk on back and I'd rather have a strong hand massage. She had fake C cups and finished with the NOVA finish with some nice peting all over. Was great at the finish and kept massaging after and helped me dress. Might go back if I feel the need.
cowboy up
I guess BT has finally gone legit. They have ugly farm hands (I will say she was in her upper 40s) from the old country working on your back. Damn those hands felt like sandpapers on my skin.
To add insult to injury, the 40 minutes torture (I paid for an hour) was rewarded without finish.
It is safe to say I will never return again.
I guess I have take one for the team.
Be safe.
Getting back in the hobby and visited Best twice in the last two weeks.
First time the lady was Tina: 40 ish, 4-5 on looks, 4-5 on TS, 4-5 on massage, 3-4 on finish and 2-3 on attitude/enthusiasm although very well naturally endowed.
I returned 10 days later thinking I might see another lady. No such luck and I had a problem asking for someone else after she came in the room - MISTAKE.
The second visit was a mirror image of the first.
Some minor pleasantries that I will gladly share with seniors.
Member #4585
05-01-09, 09:52
Sorry guys, I've been busy lately. Trying to make at least one visit a week. 3 weeks ago I stopped into CTM for an appt. with Sara(h). I've seen her before and have to say that she is extremely playful. If you guys like a little play with the brown eye, she is the one to check out. She has a very light touch and does a wonderful job of creating a great crescendo to the climax. Some hilarious stuff went on.
Seniors can PM me for details.
Member #4585
05-01-09, 09:55
2 weeks ago I stopped into Kim's to check out a recommendation from a friend that is leaving us. With luck, I got Annie and he was right about the makeup and the TS. Massage was nice and medium pressure. She is very polite and does speak better english than some of the girls there. Flip was a little polite for my taste but it was the first visit. I amy check her out again soon and see what my mpg is.
After a rough couple days decided to retry a location after seeing that extras were being given. Greated by a late 30's early 40's Korean. Forgot to get the name of the talent, but she did have kinked extensions in her hair. TS was good and long. Made it a point to feel me out. I sure didn't mind. Massage was completely covered with towel I am guessing because of the Swine flu. I actually like the feel of a that kinda massage, although it was a little short. I would say about 20-25 minutes. After, I grabbed her hand gently and showed her were to go next. Was a good HJ, although I usually dig a little PSE acting with it. She was straight faced and looked like she was studying for a physics exam. Overall not bad, but if I am paying top dollar, especially during these times, you need to give me the time I paid for. Probably won't go back anytime soon.
Captainhorndog
05-02-09, 22:19
It has been several months since I was at Kim's.
Is Young still there?
She gave a very physical massage.
Wahooboy94
05-03-09, 15:43
Feeling randy this past Thursday, I decided to visit NSP off of Edsall. I had first gone here summer of last year (you can see my earlier review), was disappointed in the service, but decided to revisit in light of the reviews I saw posted on this and other web sites.
As mentioned, I visited NSP on Thursday around 10: 30 in the morning. I was greeted by Coco (sp? ) who was probably mid to late 30s, average looks and figure but I would still call her cute.
She took me up to my room where I paid $80 for the full hour and table shower.
Table shower was nice. She covered my privates with a wash cloth. I tried not to read into it.
She towelled me off and escorted me back to my room where I assumed the position.
Let me tell you what. The massage was excellent. I asked for a medium massage, probably got medium to hard. Very strong hands.
To cut to the chase, the massage was all I got. I was a bit surprised by this, but there were no other extra services. To Coco's credit, we used the full hour (it did feel like a very long stay. In fact, I thought we had gone over my time limit). I tipped her $40 on the way out the door.
If you would like a strong massage, Coco is definitely one way to go. I might consider going back. As such, I paid a subsequent visit to my current favorite location, CTM, where I received excellent service.
Wahooboy94
05-03-09, 15:55
As reported earlier, following my visit with NSP off of Edsall, I decided to make one more stop with CTM.
Greeted by Yung (I assume) but asked for Sarah who was available and hair still wet from her recent shower.
Table shower was excellent and thorough. Escorted me back to my room (good ol' room #2) where I received a very nice and soft touch massage. Just so you know, a medium massage for Sarah tends to be fairly soft in touch. The massage gradually became more sensual as her hands kept running to my buttocks region, caressing and stroking this area. Let the moaning begin!
Simply put, Sarah has some of the most sensual hands that I've come across in the business. Don't expect FS, but she definitely knows how to touch a man!
I definitely recommend CTM. I tipped Sarah $80 on the way out and told her I will see her again in the near future. She is a real sweet heart.- be good to her!
Called last asking for either Jeannie or Young and was told they were both gone for "long vacation".
In the vernacular I think they have moved on.
It has been several months since I was at Kim's.
Is Young still there?
She gave a very physical massage.
Guitarman1
05-04-09, 11:04
As reported earlier, following my visit with NSP off of Edsall, I decided to make one more stop with CTM.
Greeted by Yung (I assume) but asked for Sarah who was available and hair still wet from her recent shower.
Table shower was excellent and thorough. Escorted me back to my room (good ol' room #2) where I received a very nice and soft touch massage. Just so you know, a medium massage for Sarah tends to be fairly soft in touch. The massage gradually became more sensual as her hands kept running to my buttocks region, caressing and stroking this area. Let the moaning begin!
Simply put, Sarah has some of the most sensual hands that I've come across in the business. Don't expect FS, but she definitely knows how to touch a man!
I definitely recommend CTM. I tipped Sarah $80 on the way out and told her I will see her again in the near future. She is a real sweet heart.- be good to her!
$80 for a standard finish? That is too high. Overtipping drives up the prices for the rest of us.
Guitarman1
05-04-09, 11:08
Feeling randy this past Thursday, I decided to visit NSP off of Edsall. I had first gone here summer of last year (you can see my earlier review), was disappointed in the service, but decided to revisit in light of the reviews I saw posted on this and other web sites.
As mentioned, I visited NSP on Thursday around 10: 30 in the morning. I was greeted by Coco (sp? ) who was probably mid to late 30s, average looks and figure but I would still call her cute.
She took me up to my room where I paid $80 for the full hour and table shower.
Table shower was nice. She covered my privates with a wash cloth. I tried not to read into it.
She towelled me off and escorted me back to my room where I assumed the position.
Let me tell you what. The massage was excellent. I asked for a medium massage, probably got medium to hard. Very strong hands.
To cut to the chase, the massage was all I got. I was a bit surprised by this, but there were no other extra services. To Coco's credit, we used the full hour (it did feel like a very long stay. In fact, I thought we had gone over my time limit). I tipped her $40 on the way out the door.
If you would like a strong massage, Coco is definitely one way to go. I might consider going back. As such, I paid a subsequent visit to my current favorite location, CTM, where I received excellent service.
You got no extras at all and still tipped. In fact your tip for no extras is actually more than a lot of people tip for a standard finish.
In an effort to keep price in a gppd range what would you rscommend for a Standary, Executive, First class a VIP finishes?
Let us all keep it to a par, the prices are already too hign (for the quality)
$80 for a standard finish? That is too high. Overtipping drives up the prices for the rest of us.
In an effort to keep price in a gppd range what would you rscommend for a Standary, Executive, First class a VIP finishes?
Let us all keep it to a par, the prices are already too hign (for the quality)I would say standard should be no more than $40! Times are tough out there.
Linda
Age ~ 34
Looks:
Face 9/Body 7
Massage 7
Finish 7
Table Shower 7
Roamin 10
DATY 8
GFE 5
.8 entry
.5 tip
Guitarman1
05-05-09, 10:37
In an effort to keep price in a gppd range what would you rscommend for a Standary, Executive, First class a VIP finishes?
Let us all keep it to a par, the prices are already too hign (for the quality)
Standard tips for an AMP are:
HJ - .4
BJ - .6
FS - 1.0
Stick with the standard tips. Nobody wants prices going up.
I saw the following on CL and thought I would check it out:
"SO much Stress so little tiime. Well give me a half hour to an hour and I will relieve you of all your stresses great flat rates and available late hours as well as early morning some days.
Message me online for details.- on Y ah 0o my sname is deanna_baird and on a I m my sname is deanna28baird
The photo was appealing (probably not her) so I IMed her. After making offers for "Full Service" in her response she wanted me to go through some kind of "confirmation" website. Since I just wanted a massage and not a long term relationship, I declined.
She started cussing me out in ALL CAPS calling me a "phony" and other things.
I want nothing to do with her but wondered if ayone else has encountered her?
Roamin Roman
05-05-09, 11:51
Stopped by, since it had been a while since my last visit, and drew Nanna (or Na Na). Entry fee was .8, which I thought was a bit steep, but decided to try anyhow. Looks like they are in the process of installing a TS, but for the time being one must use the shower stall (DIY). Those facilities were clean, though.
Back in room, Nanna proceeds to give a good, if unspectacular, massage. It did include the "walk" but was only on the backs of the thighs/legs, as she by her own admission was "a bit heavy."
After that, standard NoVa finish, with .4 as tip.
Will I visit again? Maybe, but there are better places that provide more for less.
RR
F/B/A/S ratings: 7.5 / 6.5 / 7.5 / 7.5
Physical details: ~140#, 5'-5", 36C, curly brown hair
Went to Venus Body Wellness the other day. They advertise 10 times a day on CL. The lady I saw was obviously not the one in the ad but a good time was had by all. $80 for the hour, $50 tip since it was better than standard.
I usually keep to these rates for the most part, the only difference being the HJ in which I usually go for 20 unless I think I can work it into one of the other catagories.
As I mentioned in the past I met the hottie who tried to talk me into something more but I stood my ground and got it all anyway.
I hope others will toe the line; prices are too exaggerated in this area (and the rest of the US).
Thanks for getting back.
Standard tips for an AMP are:
HJ - .4
BJ - .6
FS - 1.0
Stick with the standard tips. Nobody wants prices going up.
Pilot Aviator
05-05-09, 22:03
Too many work hours and too much built up tension sent me to *** to see my friend Yong. Yong is typically pretty and is happy to have a conversation or to allow you to snooze/zone out.
She chided me for being away so long (reminding me I've been one of her favorite clients for over two years -- (we all like to believe we are our MT's favorite)).
It was quiet -- the TS was best ever
The massage was light.
I would have been happy for the massage to have lasted for two hours instead of just the one I paid 0.8 for.
Definitely repeat.
Always be nice to the ladies
PA
Wild Turkey
05-06-09, 00:29
While we are on the subject of tipping, let me add a couple of things:
First, I understand that the guidelines are to be followed without regard to the length of the appointment. That is, one is expected to tip the same amount for the same level of service, regardless of whether the appointment is for a half hour or a full hour.
Second, I understand that one is to stand firmly by the guidelines even if he is served more than one helping. (This principle I would find difficult to consistently follow.)
I once went through the entire forum back to front in search of answers to these specific questions, and came out empty-handed. Since there are no definitive answers to these questions in the mold of Guitarman's last post, I thought that I would proffer these corollaries for all to see. These represent nothing more than my personal conclusions, arrived at through conversations with a very small number of colleagues. I make no claim that they must be followed in order to conform with standard practice. Please feel free to validate or dispute them, so that I may know what I can get away with.
Guitarman1
05-06-09, 10:02
While we are on the subject of tipping, let me add a couple of things:
First, I understand that the guidelines are to be followed without regard to the length of the appointment. That is, one is expected to tip the same amount for the same level of service, regardless of whether the appointment is for a half hour or a full hour.
Second, I understand that one is to stand firmly by the guidelines even if he is served more than one helping. (This principle I would find difficult to consistently follow.)
I once went through the entire forum back to front in search of answers to these specific questions, and came out empty-handed. Since there are no definitive answers to these questions in the mold of Guitarman's last post, I thought that I would proffer these corollaries for all to see. These represent nothing more than my personal conclusions, arrived at through conversations with a very small number of colleagues. I make no claim that they must be followed in order to conform with standard practice. Please feel free to validate or dispute them, so that I may know what I can get away with.
There are exceptions which can lead to a lower or higher tip than what I previously posted.
HJ - .4
BJ - .6
FS - 1.0
Lets say the session was way shorter than what you paid for, or the girl didn't even try to be friendly. That tip should be a bit lower.
Lets say the girl lets you go over the time and provides enthusiastic service. That could warrant a bit more.
Not long ago I had a girl give me a standard finish in the shower, then again after the massage. Of course I tipped more.
Ultimately we want to keep the prices consistent. The standard tip amounts I posted is a guide to keep those prices consistent. However, it is not a rule. Don't be afraid to tip less if you have a bad time. Of course you should only go over those amounts if you get exceptional service.
I hate to get the same girl! The place was like Grand Central Station-a wednesday night-what recession?! No recession in Eastern Loudoun.
Table shower-1-hurried
Massage 7
Finish-1-hurried
.8 door
.4 tip-just to be nice.
Avoid wed nights 6:30-8:30!
They "hurried" me out - don't blame them.
Was in the area and visited Sunstar. Used to hit Golden quite a bit before they closed down. Had a great time with typical NOVA finish. Lots of roaming was allowed and I had a good time.
I was in the area a couple of times and landed at Swan twice. Wierd, no shower of any kind. Massage was with powder and a very nice change. Typical NOVA finish with some roaming.
Enjoyable but nothing special.
Why do we talk about how much to tip. There are people who going to tip 20 for above NoVa standard no matter what and there are people who going to tip 100 for HJ. So what. I make my own money and I decide how much to tip. Nobody is going to tell me how much I need to give to a lady. I think this is just waste of time and waste of space here. Why don't we use this site to share our experience, isn't what this site is for? Just go back to the original. Also what is with all these guys, no reports or very few useless, but every time they post some, they say trust seniors can PM me only. I, for example, report only when I think my info can be useful for others, sometimes just trying to get some info from others. PM I will share with anyone and some of you guys already know that, but these 6-useless-reports "only trusted seniors can PM for details" drives me nuts. I've been going since 2005 at least once a week. My opinion is, you have some info, you want to share, check previous reports and decide whom to share with.
And if some of you are still affraid of LE, don't worry, like Jackson said, LE already know about ALL of these places, but no need to worry, they have more important things to take care of.
Anyway, be careful out there, happy hunting, hope you share with all of us and enjoy Mother's day where ever you are.
Roamin Roman
05-07-09, 23:49
Why do we talk about how much to tip. There are people who going to tip 20 for above NoVa standard no matter what and there are people who going to tip 100 for HJ. So what. I make my own money and I decide how much to tip. Nobody is going to tell me how much I need to give to a lady. I think this is just waste of time and waste of space here. Why don't we use this site to share our experience, isn't what this site is for? Just go back to the original.Well, it depends on your perspective, Hofi. The reason some here are discussing/debating the issue of tipping is because it goes hand-in-hand with the hobby. To some, it's like discussing golf but refusing to discuss the green fees that you have to pay. Or, it's like discussing target shooting without discussing the price of ammo. If you feel that any discussion of tipping is a waste of time, that's your right to hold that opinion. Others, though, feel that one person over-tipping by a significant margin drives up the prices for everyone else. It is but one of many facets involved in this hobby. But, since not every thread is for everyone's tastes, feel free to abstain from joining those threads or discussions that are of no interest to you. As for what you do with your own money, no one is seriously trying to tell you what you can or can't do with it. We're all just trying to offer helpful advice and provide a different perspective on the topic.
And if some of you are still affraid of LE, don't worry, like Jackson said, LE already know about ALL of these places, but no need to worry, they have more important things to take care of.We discussed this before, but it's worth stating again. Sure, Jackson is correct when he says that LEO probably knows about ALL of these places. But, there IS reason to worry. At least, some think so. Here's (again) the reason: While LEO knows about all of these places, they lack the resources to investigate ALL of them. Thus, LEO is only going to investigate those places which they have reason to suspect are egregious violators. And therein lies the difference. So, yes, there IS reason to be cautious. Now, if you personally do not wish to exercise the same level of caution as others, that's your right to do so. However, as in the case with folks telling you how to spend your own money, you shouldn't be telling others what sort of caution they should exercise in this hobby. After all, if you're wrong, it ain't your butt that's going to get arrested and charged.
So, a little perspective. Feel free to differ, if you want. Just as some guys find a girl appealing, but other guys are turned-off by the same girl, it works the same with tipping and with caution. There's only ONE thing we all want blown.
Have fun at the Forum.
RR
Guitarman1
05-08-09, 10:26
Why do we talk about how much to tip. There are people who going to tip 20 for above NoVa standard no matter what and there are people who going to tip 100 for HJ. So what. I make my own money and I decide how much to tip. Nobody is going to tell me how much I need to give to a lady. I think this is just waste of time and waste of space here. Why don't we use this site to share our experience, isn't what this site is for? Just go back to the original. Also what is with all these guys, no reports or very few useless, but every time they post some, they say trust seniors can PM me only. I, for example, report only when I think my info can be useful for others, sometimes just trying to get some info from others. PM I will share with anyone and some of you guys already know that, but these 6-useless-reports "only trusted seniors can PM for details" drives me nuts. I've been going since 2005 at least once a week. My opinion is, you have some info, you want to share, check previous reports and decide whom to share with.
And if some of you are still affraid of LE, don't worry, like Jackson said, LE already know about ALL of these places, but no need to worry, they have more important things to take care of.
Anyway, be careful out there, happy hunting, hope you share with all of us and enjoy Mother's day where ever you are.
We know that some people are going to tip more, but many do it out of ignorance. They often don't realize what the standard tips are. If they want to tip more that is up to them but, as RR said, my whole point was to make people aware of the standards and suggest that it is better for everyone if they stick to them.
As for making top notch intel available only to trusted members, I guess you don't understand why that is necessary. LE knows about all these places, that is true. However, they can't investigate all of them. So they need to have good information before they can make their move. In case you have missed it, several news reports have shown LEO's stating that they got their intel straight from this site. Giving out the location of the CC's or giving specifics on a good AMP to just anyone is dumb because that will put them at greater risk of being shut down.
Visited Sunstar again and saw the same girl Meena (? ). Actually I got started with May with the TS and was a little disappointed I wouldn't get to see her a little more. Standard fare.
Anyone have any info on May? Just wondering.
AKFourtySeven
05-10-09, 17:32
I went to Costco to pick up some dog food. I decided to check out Zen. Last time I went it was closed. It was open today 8-)
The sign was unlit but the door was open. I parked and walked in the doorwa ywhere I met Sunny. Shes a plump 50ish lady whose friendly demeanor put me at ease. I was led to the room where I disrobed and waited. After 10 minutes or so Sunny came and led me to the shower. Much atention was paid to right partz.
Then came the massage. It was mostly soft with a lot of vibrations in the right place. This led to a standard nova finish. Usual pricing was in effect.
I think I'll repeat to see if I can get more next time.
Thinking about trying this on way home this evening.
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it?
Roamin Roman
05-13-09, 02:13
Thinking about trying this on way home this evening.
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it?Probably a new one.
Thanks for volunteering to TOFTT.
We'll look forward to reading your report.
Dadwantsit
05-13-09, 07:49
Drove by yesterday and they were closed with newspapers out in front in Lakeridge. Anyone know how long they will be closed for? They were open just two weeks ago.
I went by one day last week and observed the same thing. I had a visit the week before and no mention of closing. I planned a trip today to try out the other provider, Suzie and when I called the phone was disconnected. Looks like another one bites the dust.
I also saw an ad on CL in theraputic section that the former Sukura, aka SKO, was under new management and I think the current name is Route One Therapy. Might try it out this weekend and will report back.
Drove by yesterday and they were closed with newspapers out in front in Lakeridge. Anyone know how long they will be closed for? They were open just two weeks ago.
Dadwantsit
05-14-09, 10:13
I went by one day last week and observed the same thing. I had a visit the week before and no mention of closing. I planned a trip today to try out the other provider, Suzie and when I called the phone was disconnected. Looks like another one bites the dust. Pretty new to this website. Like it a lot though. Great stuff. Too bad if this place closed. Suzie is very nice, speaks excellent english and gives a terrific massage and very slow, prolonged (at my request) HJ finish. Athletic build with nice rack. Went by again last night and saw the newspapers picked up but still had the closed sign out. Anybody know the story on this place?
Went to holiday and saw nana. I am one of her regulars. Great shower, decent massage that goes quickly. Up till now I had enjoyed my time but she would not allow roaming this day but she was talking really dirty to me. Pop. Done. 50 minutes. I gave standard tip but then she asked for another bill. I was like maybe next time. That was a really shitter. Now I need to find a new place. I really hate that.
Anyone have a lead on a Chinese place that is not the condos. I mean an AMP. I am sick of Kgirls and rather have Chinese, I find they take better care. PMs are good.
Guitarman1
05-14-09, 10:38
Pulled this from another USASG forum. It seems that when LE was in their early investigative stages of this place, they pulled over some patrons just to see what they get. Sadly, 4 of the 5 guys laid it all out for them. I really hope the mongers around here are better than this.
From the looks of this report, it seems that they can in fact touch and be touched.
Also the site listed, usasexreview.com does not exist. I'm pretty sure they were referring to this site.
http://www.mysunforums.com/content/RJ/content/myrj/Documents/PoliceReport.pdf
Phaik Naim
05-14-09, 11:53
I've visited ATMB on a few occasions, especially when I am looking for sports massage after working out. It's not what most of the folks on this board would want in terms of an AMP, but they know their craft. It's a legit establishment that meets the requirements for just a good solid massage session. Obviously, you discovered that, too.As with all such providers at ATMB, Lisa is no longer there.
If anyone has her contact info and is willing to share it, please drop me a line.
Exactly what are you going on about?
JJ
Pulled this from another USASG forum. It seems that when LE was in their early investigative stages of this place, they pulled over some patrons just to see what they get. Sadly, 4 of the 5 guys laid it all out for them. I really hope the mongers around here are better than this.
From the looks of this report, it seems that they can in fact touch and be touched.
Also the site listed, usasexreview.com does not exist. I'm pretty sure they were referring to this site.
http://www.mysunforums.com/content/RJ/content/myrj/Documents/PoliceReport.pdf
Roamin Roman
05-14-09, 18:16
As with all such providers at ATMB, Lisa is no longer there. If anyone has her contact info and is willing to share it, please drop me a line.I'm unfamiliar with Lisa, but by your post I'm guessing that she gave as solid a sports massage as Angie. I'll ask, the next time I stop by after a workout. In the mean time, you might want to let Angie give you a massage. She will definitely work out all the kinks. However, as with all the ATMB therapists, don't expect anything like you find in DC. They just give a good solid workout to the muscles, which is great after lifting for an hour or two.
RR
Guitarman1
05-15-09, 10:48
Exactly what are you going on about?
JJ
If you read through the link that I posted, you'll see exactly how the bust went down.
First, LE gets complaints from idiots who went there not realizing what kind of spot it really was.
Second, they go straight to this site to see what is being said about the place.
Third, they conduct surveillance to observe how long people are in there.
Fourth, they choose a couple mongers leaving and pull them over as they drive home. 4 of the 5 guys told LE everything about the place.
Fifth, they start UC operations. The UC's touched the girls and allowed the girls to touch and stroke them.
Sixth, they raid the place. Not for the first time either, this place was raided for the same reason several years ago but went right back into business.
So from this we see a few things. Due to the history of the place, local LE probably figured something may be going on there. Resources are limited so they left them be as long as there were no complaints. When a complaint came in, checking this site was one of the first things they did. Then they pulled mongers over to ask questions when they really had no proof of anything, and 4 of the 5 told LE all the details. Only 1 was smart enough to realize they were just fishing. Also, the LE check is pointless because it seems they can touch and be touched in those areas.
This seems to be what was going on around here when all the places in N. VA were closed down.
LE would wait for mongers to leave, pull them over on some BS type excuse and get them to spill the beans on what went down inside the Spa.
Lesson to be learned here....NEVER assume LEO has anything they can bust you on unless you are "caught in the act", if they did, you wouldn't be getting a chance to sing like a canary, most of the time you will do yourself more harm than good!
I have even heard from fellow mongers(as well as happening to me once while I was in Tampa FL some years back), that they've even walked away from a bust in progress even while inside the spa because they were not caught in any type of illegal activity, _of course caught laying face down on a table butt naked gets you a trip downtown(for those wondering)_, this is why they have to have that little towel on you at all times during massage session. ;)
MnV
If you read through the link that I posted, you'll see exactly how the bust went down.
First, LE gets complaints from idiots who went there not realizing what kind of spot it really was.
Second, they go straight to this site to see what is being said about the place.
Third, they conduct surveillance to observe how long people are in there.
Fourth, they choose a couple mongers leaving and pull them over as they drive home. 4 of the 5 guys told LE everything about the place.
Fifth, they start UC operations. The UC's touched the girls and allowed the girls to touch and stroke them.
Sixth, they raid the place. Not for the first time either, this place was raided for the same reason several years ago but went right back into business.
So from this we see a few things. Due to the history of the place, local LE probably figured something may be going on there. Resources are limited so they left them be as long as there were no complaints. When a complaint came in, checking this site was one of the first things they did. Then they pulled mongers over to ask questions when they really had no proof of anything, and 4 of the 5 told LE all the details. Only 1 was smart enough to realize they were just fishing. Also, the LE check is pointless because it seems they can touch and be touched in those areas.
I was in Woodbridge the other day and decided to take my chances by visiting one of the old hangouts. I stopped by Mios only to find it locked up. A sign on the front door said to go around back, but the back door was locked as well. Most of the surrounding units have been taken over by a Spanish-language evangelical church, so Mios's days were probably numbered. Too bad.
I then ran by Sakura/SKO/whatever-it-is-called-today. The therapist was in her late forties/early fifties. She gave a decent fifteen minute massage, then a standard finish. I paid for forty-five minutes, but was in and out in half that time. Overall, a vanilla experience (once upon a time, Sakura was second only to HWC for what you could expect, but those days are obviously long gone). You can get the same level of service or even better at any non-PWC Nova AMP without fear of getting raided.
Pilot Aviator
05-16-09, 19:33
Have been a client for some time with Sara and Yong at *** Had a fine time Friday (TS always excellent, and particularly good for those who prefer a soft touch (I rate that excellent)
But..- I like to get a full hour when I pay for an hour. And too many visits have been shorted by 15 minutes or so because they are busy and other clients are waiting.
I've written before that I think it is best to be an understanding client (leave when your MT needs to move on to the next client) if they are busy. But I think I'll move-on and patronize other quality places where an hour has 60 minutes.
FWIW.. They are both nice ladies in all the appropriate ways.. So if you visit, be nice to them
PA
Norm Leone
05-16-09, 21:06
I visited MPs in the early-mid 80's that were full service. I only knew of 1 AMP at that time (and I had really looked), it was near RT 50 and the Beltway in MD. That place offered bareback everything, but no covers were provided. When I provided my own covers, on several occasions I found that the girls were using petroleum-based lubes (disolves latex) and the covers were breaking, offering no protection. No bad results resulted at that time.
Now here is my question: Are the hobbyists here ever running into that same lube/breakage problem? I have avoided FS since I started up again (2 years ago), but I am considering taking the next step.
BC if you like.
Thanks for any info.
Norm
Are the hobbyists here ever running into that same lube/breakage problem? I have avoided FS since I started up again (2 years ago), but I am considering taking the next step.
Norm
No problem ever.
The ladies are smart and generally know how to protect themselves.
25% of your posts contain some reference to safe sex, disease, or disgust towards the act. Do you ever enjoy yourself or are you consumed with fear?
Norm Leone
05-16-09, 22:11
No problem ever.
The ladies are smart and generally know how to protect themselves.
25% of your posts contain some reference to safe sex, disease, or disgust towards the act. Do you ever enjoy yourself or are you consumed with fear?
Disgust? You seem to be hallucinating. I have just been avoiding what had been a problem before. Now I am asking if the situation still exists so I can enjoy what I enjoyed before. How do you read anything negative into that? Safety is not a negative thing, denial is. So I asked.
Disgust? You seem to be hallucinating. I have just been avoiding what had been a problem before. Now I am asking if the situation still exists so I can enjoy what I enjoyed before. How do you read anything negative into that? Safety is not a negative thing, denial is. So I asked.
My point is, we enlightened you on the policy regarding "safe sex" talk in the threads on or about 12/14/2008. Now you're doing it again.
And, the NVA massage thread is the last place to be asking about FS related matters as we know it almost never happens here.
Please ask your questions on this thread instead:
http://usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268
1. V&P
2. Cherry
3. Good
4. PM for details
Norm Leone
05-17-09, 04:06
My point is, we enlightened you on the policy regarding "safe sex" talk in the threads on or about 12/14/2008. Now you're doing it again.
And, the NVA massage thread is the last place to be asking about FS related matters as we know it almost never happens here.
Please ask your questions on this thread instead:
http://usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268You need to RTF Rules. There is no policy on "safe sex talk", it is on "No Safe Sex Complaints", so your criticism is misguided. I was interested in NVA so this was the place to ask my question.
Go find something useful to do.
AKFourtySeven
05-17-09, 07:26
Its not the problem now that it was in the early 80's.
There are many non-petroleum based lubes on the market that are compatable with latex condoms.
Or you could use sheep gut condoms.
Hey anyone know where TCCC is?
[Personal address deleted by Admin]
This has been a public service announcement! :sarcastic:
Brad1
P.S. Don't expect any good looking girls there though you'll probably find MoonView and/or Roamin Roman (sometimes with each other).
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Big Daddy Don
05-18-09, 13:18
Its not the problem now that it was in the early 80's.
There are many non-petroleum based lubes on the market that are compatable with latex condoms.
Or you could use sheep gut condoms.Do they still sell those?!!? Non latex condoms do not stop HIV so I would suggest sticking with Latex. The girls are smart enough these days to know what to do. They provide the cover (latex) and use water based lube. They want to stay safe too.
Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public is permitted.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is NOT permitted and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson
Visit many time and this is a private location (Apt) in which you need a code to enter.
For service it is hit or miss.
Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public is permitted.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is NOT permitted and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson
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Roamin Roman
05-18-09, 18:18
Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public is permitted.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is NOT permitted and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
JacksonI don't know about the phone number, but the street address he gave is for a group of condominiums / apartments that are located just off Westpark Drive in the Tysons Corner area. The number he listed is not the suite number of a business, but rather is the actual apartment number within that complex. I know that for a fact. If necessary, I can obtain a photo of the apartment's front door and send it to you.
RR
Roamin Roman
05-18-09, 18:20
There are many non-petroleum based lubes on the market that are compatable with latex condoms.
Or you could use sheep gut condoms.So, if you use one of those condoms, you wouldn't be porking her. You'd be "sheeping" her.
Its a private residence, please ban him for life.
Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public is permitted.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is NOT permitted and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson
So, if you use one of those condoms, you wouldn't be porking her. You'd be "sheeping" her.
No, "ewe" would be "ramming" her.
In my last post I mentioned the Mios spa in Woodbridge was closed. There is an ad on Craigslist mentioning that it is reopening under a new name, the Tokyo spa. I can't imagine it will be any worse than the lackluster service I received at SKO. If the providers are actually Japanese (doubtful), it might be worth a visit.
Phaik Naim
05-20-09, 12:16
I've been watching their CL ads for a while. They remind me of the ads for Golden Spa. I a few days ago, and was again reminded of Golden Spa, whose ads have definitely tailed off on CL. A Caucasian-sounding dude answered the phone, like at Golden. I asked a simple, introductory question, which he answered and called me sir in (it seemed to me) a military / LEO sort of way.
I have seen no reports on this board other than (a) someone who couldn't find it and (b) someone who was purportedly going to try it, but never followed up.
Spidey sense tingling here. I'm going to pass on this one unless I see / hear some very very good things about this place.
I just thought I'd pass along some paranoia.
I've been watching their CL ads for a while. They remind me of the ads for Golden Spa. I a few days ago, and was again reminded of Golden Spa, whose ads have definitely tailed off on CL. A Caucasian-sounding dude answered the phone, like at Golden. I asked a simple, introductory question, which he answered and called me sir in (it seemed to me) a military / LEO sort of way.
I have seen no reports on this board other than (a) someone who couldn't find it and (b) someone who was purportedly going to try it, but never followed up.
Spidey sense tingling here. I'm going to pass on this one unless I see / hear some very very good things about this place.
I just thought I'd pass along some paranoia.
I noticed today that they both have new ads on the City Paper site and the wording is strangely similar - "no obligation viewing" for both ads. They are in the same zip code. The pictures looked very similar as well. I agree with Phaik Naim. The whole thing just seems too coincidental and, at the least, a touch odd.
Sounds like you could use a report on Tao. I was there 2 months ago, called the number, talked to the guy, and he instructed me to a certain bldg, calling him as I got near the right entrance, in Merrifield. It was definately strange, like I was getting ready to get beat. Residential bldg, I walk down hall, girl in doctor like smock waits for me at condo with door open. Lousy massage, could have had FS, standard quick finish. Pass on it.
Member #4585
05-21-09, 18:31
Saw Joy last Friday at the place behind the McDonalds off Backlick. New girl... glad I took the mamasans advice. Excellent massage and lots of time spent on the neck which I needed. Finish was great and she had great fake Ds that she allowed to breath. I highly recommend.
Member #4585
05-21-09, 18:33
Has anyone been to P&S in Vienna recently? Thinking about checking it out tomorrow. Would love any recommendations. Feel free to PM.
Wahooboy94
05-21-09, 23:10
I wanted to try a new place today. Shiatsu has received some very good reviews so I decided to run over and check it out for myself. Funny, it is literally around the corner from Pine Tree in the same office park.
I arrived late morning and was greeted by Connie. Very cute. Face was so-so, but she had a great looking body and an impressive top. I had the entire place to myself.- no other customers coming or going at this time.
Very nice facility. Clean and well kept. Connie took me to my room, where I paid $80 for the hour. Undressed and went to the table shower. A little to quick for me, but thorough.
Back to the room. Toweled me off one more time for good measure than I assumed the position.
Very strong massage. If you like a good hard massage, than Connie is for you. She did a great job, was very personable and went above and beyond. I left extremely satisfied thinking I had just found my new favorite AMP as well as my favorite provider.
I tipped $80 on the way out and look forward to going back!
Phaik Naim
05-22-09, 11:54
She did a great job, was very personable and went above and beyond. I left extremely satisfied thinking I had just found my new favorite AMP as well as my favorite provider.
I tipped $80 on the way out and look forward to going back!Based on your review, I went and checked out Connie. Surprise. She is Lisa from ATMB! Extremely satisfied sums it up nicely. Nice start to a 3 day weekend.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Phaik Naim
05-22-09, 13:33
Sounds like you could use a report on Tao. I was there 2 months ago, called the number, talked to the guy, and he instructed me to a certain bldg, calling him as I got near the right entrance, in Merrifield. It was definately strange, like I was getting ready to get beat. Residential bldg, I walk down hall, girl in doctor like smock waits for me at condo with door open. Lousy massage, could have had FS, standard quick finish. Pass on it.Thank you for that. That explains the one guy who couldn't find it, as the address given is that of a 2 story office building, presumably in front of the condos. The more I look around CL, the more I notice ads similar to the Tao / Golden ads. Spidey Sense now leaning toward this being a very "organized" operation, and not by Uncle LEO.
I'm definitely staying away.
AKFourtySeven
05-22-09, 17:42
Yeah, I drove out there and found the office building but it was dark.
No cars in the lot.
I didn't go in.
Just a lil recon.
Dadwantsit
05-26-09, 13:50
Just rode bby A Plus Therapy in Lakeridge again.
Still looks closed with no sign of recent activity.
There are exceptions which can lead to a lower or higher tip than what I previously posted.
HJ - .4
BJ - .6
FS - 1.0
Lets say the session was way shorter than what you paid for, or the girl didn't even try to be friendly. That tip should be a bit lower.
Lets say the girl lets you go over the time and provides enthusiastic service. That could warrant a bit more.
Not long ago I had a girl give me a standard finish in the shower, then again after the massage. Of course I tipped more.
Ultimately we want to keep the prices consistent. The standard tip amounts I posted is a guide to keep those prices consistent. However, it is not a rule. Don't be afraid to tip less if you have a bad time. Of course you should only go over those amounts if you get exceptional service.The idea of tipping seems to be wholy a subject of "extra" service. While the extra service is certainly the central theme, what about the act of a good massage in and of itself? Would it be considerate to get a massage from a "day spa" and not tip? Food for thought. Maybe it's time to rethink tipping. I do know that when it comes to seeing the same provider, YMMV regarding how much you tipped the last time.
Went this afternoon to ckeck out GT. Mamasan escorted me to room and collect the .8 for the hour. The returned and said no one was available and put me in the sauna. After about 10 minutes she walked me to the TS where she gave me an ok TS (4). Back to the room and she started the massage. All in all about 5. I asked if one of the younger girls would be in and she assured me she would be in shoutly. After about 15 more minutes of massage, Misan (?) entered and contunued with the back massage.
Quite interesting thereafter. Senior members PM.
Vahotguy
Have had some great experiences at Little River Spa over of the last several weeks. Called yesterday and the number is disconnected. Went to the place and it looked completely closed up. At least no one was home, during prime hours. It appears to have shutdown, which would be unfortunate.
Went to another place in Annandale (on Backlick.) Got the usual NoVa treatment but not at all fun. Not like LRS was.
I noticed that MIO began advertising again on bp. I went over to check it out last evening, with some disappointment. The price had gone up to $.7 and they did not offer a full menu. The one girl I spoke with was pretty cute, but since I was not interested in a NOVA finish, I took my money and ran. Since they are not bombarding the boards with the free ads today, I wondered if my questions scared them off.
The idea of tipping seems to be wholy a subject of "extra" service. While the extra service is certainly the central theme, what about the act of a good massage in and of itself? Would it be considerate to get a massage from a "day spa" and not tip? Food for thought. Maybe it's time to rethink tipping. I do know that when it comes to seeing the same provider, YMMV regarding how much you tipped the last time.Perhaps you should reread Guitarman1's post. He clearly states that there can be (and are) circumstances that warrant a higher tip. He goes on to say the amounts he listed are a guide. All the tipping discussions have been about keeping the tip levels generally consistent. When guys tip .8 for for a HJ they make it harder for the rest of us to maintain the current levels. If you feel you got a great massage and/or extra special service that deserves some extra in the tip go for it. Just don't go too far overboard.
I have on occasion given what I consider an extra tip when service has been extra special. But I do it in 2 stages first I hand over the standard and then I say something about how great the massage was or how playfully she was and hand over the extra, but I always make sure she knows why she got it. But I also have under tipped when the service was short and rushed, luckily I have never been confronted or yelled at on those occasions, probably because they knew why.
Perhaps you should reread Guitarman1's post. He clearly states that there can be (and are) circumstances that warrant a higher tip. He goes on to say the amounts he listed are a guide. All the tipping discussions have been about keeping the tip levels generally consistent. When guys tip .8 for for a HJ they make it harder for the rest of us to maintain the current levels. If you feel you got a great massage and/or extra special service that deserves some extra in the tip go for it. Just don't go too far overboard.
The experience of being touched by an Angel.
Professional Native Female Thai Massage Practitioner
Thailand Ministry of Education Certified Practitioner License
Acupressure, Deep Tissue, Reflexology, Relaxation, Thai Yoga, and Hot Stone, Massage Therapies.
Independent availability in private Fairfax studio facility as well as office hours in association with leading NoVA Acupuncture Clinic.
Taking a wealth of experience from working at several leading spas in Thailand I understand the importance of bringing a sense of wellness to each of my customers. By combining the best of east and west massage techniques I provide a massage experience giving you immediate positive effects and lasting results. Essentially, the experience of being touched by an Angel.
call 703 400 0441 for information on rates and appointments
10560 main st, fairfax, va 22301
Location: Main st, Fairfax
Dreaming Often
05-30-09, 20:21
Hey guys, well as the title says, new to the area, but not the hobby. I took some time to RTFF (amazing I know!) and decided that I would locate a little place not far away from me for my first adventure in the area. I did try to contact a senior member prior to ask about standard tips in the area, but haven't heard back of yet. Perhaps he is just being appropriately cautious about me being a newbie to the boards, and I dont fault him for it.
KT i'm sure you know which i'm talking about but just in case, its just inside the beltway off of Backlick. A Lovely lady answered the door and invited me in, asking if I could wait a few minutes. Aparently she was with another customer, but no problem I had set aside the time in my day to be there.
Again, since its my first experience in the area, I have to say I enjoyed the atmosphere at the place... although they did have a bit of louder music in the reception area that they needed to turn down just a touch... it wasn't bad music, just that with it being loud didnt lend itself to serenity.
The place was well appointed, nice rooms, good temperatures so definitely comfortable.
Waited a few minutes, then MMS came in and took me to the shower, and took care of that herself. She made some small talk, and asked me the obligatory "you been here before?", and for once in my hobby career I decided to be honest about it, and tell her that no, first time here, but been other places before.. just moved to the area. She smiled and held out her hand, which I placed so she knew I was ok :) I have to say, the water was HOT and I loved it.
Ruby came in, toweled me off, led me to the room, and gave me an exceptionally good massage. Worked out some definite kinks that had built up from lugging boxes up and down stairs. She was appropriately cautious but I did my best to aleviate her of her concerns. From what I read here, got the "standard nova finish".
Ruby and I talked for a few, found out a bit about her, and will definitely return to see her again. Though I know her real age, I would say that she could pass for late twenties to early thirties, but the wonderful thing about those Asian ladies is that they hide their ages well, and even knowing her real age, it doesn't put me off any... its more about personality and ability than anything else, and like I said, exceptional massage.
.8 for house, and not knowing the area, (and I didn't get any complaints) .6 as a tip for her. Perhaps that was a bit much, perhaps not enough, but was standard value for where I moved from. She earned it though either way, and her pleasant demeanor was a welcome relief for some of the practitioners who I have known in the past that just go through the motions.
Guitarman1
05-31-09, 09:28
The idea of tipping seems to be wholy a subject of "extra" service. While the extra service is certainly the central theme, what about the act of a good massage in and of itself? Would it be considerate to get a massage from a "day spa" and not tip? Food for thought. Maybe it's time to rethink tipping. I do know that when it comes to seeing the same provider, YMMV regarding how much you tipped the last time.
If the massage is really good then it may warrant a bit extra when tipping. However even if the massage and extras are great, I can't see tipping twice the going rate like some people have done.
Does anyone else have any G2 on this? I posted last week that it appear to be closed. I am assuming this the case but would love to learn otherwise. However it is not in a convenient enough space to drive over randomly to see if anybody is home.
MrSunnyHills
05-31-09, 22:48
Hey Sleaze,
Don't know if it's the same, but sounds familiar to a "Thai Angel" massage I visited in Springfield. They were legit - and firm in only being that. Having said that, it was one of the best legit massages I've had in a long time.
Hopefully I'll check it out soon.
Mr. S
The experience of being touched by an Angel.
Professional Native Female Thai Massage Practitioner
Thailand Ministry of Education Certified Practitioner License
Acupressure, Deep Tissue, Reflexology, Relaxation, Thai Yoga, and Hot Stone, Massage Therapies.
Independent availability in private Fairfax studio facility as well as office hours in association with leading NoVA Acupuncture Clinic.
Taking a wealth of experience from working at several leading spas in Thailand I understand the importance of bringing a sense of wellness to each of my customers. By combining the best of east and west massage techniques I provide a massage experience giving you immediate positive effects and lasting results. Essentially, the experience of being touched by an Angel.
call 703 400 0441 for information on rates and appointments
10560 main st, fairfax, va 22301
Location: Main st, Fairfax
Wayward One
06-02-09, 10:06
This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from January 2009 to March 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 2/2/09 - Wayward One (sep to dec 2008)
Unknown location
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??? - 3/20/09 - Gemini1975 (+)
May - 3/17/09 - Just Ken (+)
May/Ming - 3/17/09 - Moonview (+)
May - 3/16/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
??? - 3/12/09 - Novaamp (?)
Judy - 3/7/09 - Fun cowboy (+)
Carmela (incall) - 2/28/09 - Roamin Roman (?)
Marrina - 2/27/09 - Phaik Naim (-)
She She - 2/22/09 - Lovejugs
??? - 2/21/09 - Fun Cowboy (-)
Coco - 2/16/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
??? - 1/30/09 - Bumble (+)
G - 1/24/09 - Just Ken (+)
??? - 1/11/09 - Ampamp72 (?)
Yum - 1/10/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
??? - 1/3/09 - Big Daddy Don (?)
112 Maple
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Anna - 3/2/09 - Olgnome (+)
6201 (FCCC)
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busted - 3/18/09 - Zoomster
??? - 3/5/09 - Ohio4413 (+)
Jennifer - 2/11/09 - Sleazebum (+)
A Plus Therapy
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??? - 1/22/09 - Utwogood (-)
ATMB
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Lisa - 3/27/09 - AKFourtySeven (+)
Stacy/May - 2/17/09 - AKFourtySeven (?)
Backlick
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Connie - 2/7/09 - Southbucki (-)
Bay Therapy
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Ms. Koko - 2/21/09 - Mr Strict (+)
Ms. Koko - 2/8/09 - Mr Strict (+)
Best (TS)
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Sheena - 3/5/09 - Hondo17 (+)
??? - 2/3/09 - Hondo17 (+)
June - 1/30/09 - Lovejugs (+)
Sheena - 1/27/09 - AKFourtySeven (?)
Jennie - 1/19/09 - AKFourtySeven (+)
Sheena - 1/16/09 - Hondo17 (+)
Chantilly
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??? - 1/25/09 - Divepro (-)
??? - 1/12/09 - Bumble (-)
Cosmos
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??? - 2/23/09 - S2568 (+)
CTM
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Yong/sara - 3/25/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (+)
Yung/Sara - 3/2/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Yung - 2/28/09 - Kamleu (+)
Sara - 2/20/09 - Wahooboy94 (+)
Yung - 2/16/09 - Mr Strict (+)
Yung - 1/21/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
yong/sara - 1/5/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Enliven (tyco)
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May - 3/7/09 - Max Beelyun (+)
Susan - 2/8/09 - Max Beelyun (+)
Susan - 2/8/09 - Plaqueman75 (+)
EVA
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busted (link) - 3/12/09 - Tomfool
Evergreen (Annandale)
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busted - 3/18/09 - Zoomster
Far East (chantilly)
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??? - 1/19/09 - TheKing (?)
Green Tree (Universal, Angel Therapeutic)
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Michelle - 3/26/09 - Hofi35 (+)
??? - 2/18/09 - Andrewsted (+)
??? - 1/4/09 - Powdr (-)
Health First (perfect touch) legit
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Ping - 02/08/09 - Olgnome (?)
Jade Tree
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Choi - 3/15/09 - Firmwearnova (+)
Kim's Therapy
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Genie - 3/17/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Angie - 3/7/09 - Mustang946 (+)
Angie - 3/4/09 - CsInControl (?)
Joanna - 2/28/09 - Stay Sober (+)
Joanne - 2/27/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Yong - 2/20/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (?)
Ms Baa? - 2/20/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (?)
Mimi - 2/15/09 - Stay Sober (-)
Yong - 2/12/09 - Tomfool (+)NR
Ms. Baa - 2/6/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (?)
Angie - 2/5/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
MMS#2 - 1/27/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Ruby - 1/10/09 - Stay Sober (+)
??? - 1/4/09 - Stay Sober (N/A)
Lilly's (YST, Champs)
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??? - 1/13/09 - Vahotguy (+)
Little River
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Hannah - 2/7/09 - Southbucki (+)
Magical Touch (MT)
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??? - 3/17/09 - Hungry N Horny (-)
??? - 3/11/09 - Mr Strict (-)
NSP
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closed? - 3/7/09 - Mustang946
??? - 3/2/09 - Ginger Man (+)
Tina - 1/8/09 - Ginger Man (+)
Orange in Stafford
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??? - 2/20/09 - Oldtar (-)
Pine Tree (Lotus)
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D - 1/28/09 - Wahooboy94 (+)
Rainbow
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??? - 2/25/09 - Oiof2001 (-)
??? - 2/5/09 - Aman Tuleev (-)
Sony - 1/17/09 - Wahooboy94 (+)
closed - 1/4/09 - Big Stiffy
Sakura
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??? - 2/28/09 - Lovejugs (-)
Lana - 2/20/09 - Wahooboy (?)
Smile (Oasis, Soo-Goung)
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MMS - 2/1/09 - Jojo565 (?)
Swan
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Annie/Melody - 2/25/09 - Phaik Naim (-)
Tina - 2/17/09 - Mustang946 (-)
Thai Angel
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??? - 2/21/09 - MrSunnyHills (?) possibly legit
Tea Tree Therapy
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N - 3/23/09 - xsham (-)
??? - 3/20/09 - Gemini1975 (+)
VP (V&P)
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Kathy - 3/3/09 - Fatpig (+)
Amy - 1/30/09 - Bumble (+)
Youngs
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He - 1/27/09 - Norwayrus (-)
Zen
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Jackie - 3/8/09 - Bumble (+)
Chinese Condos
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Michelle - 1/14/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fiction
FCCC - 6001 - LULU
Beautiful China Doll - small cute PERFECT Proportions all over!
Funny, bubbly one you want to take home and play with for days!
She will be there one more week and then will be moving on!
Go see her and ask about "Jim" and let me know what she says.
Needless to say - I ENJOYED the session immensely!!
Everything was just right!
JJ
FCCC - 6001 - LULU
Beautiful China Doll - small cute PERFECT Proportions all over!
Funny, bubbly one you want to take home and play with for days!
She will be there one more week and then will be moving on!
Go see her and ask about "Jim" and let me know what she says.
Needless to say - I ENJOYED the session immensely!!
Everything was just right!
JJHad a lenghthy session with LuLu and enjoyed it immensely. Great way to spend a rainy night. Services included BBBJ, all postions available and she's a fantastic kisser with an incredible tongue. Limited english but a great personality and attitude. Hope to return before she departs in a week.
Looks: 7/10
Service: 8/10
Attitude: 10/10
Location: 8/10
A note of interest: I asked about "Jim" as previous poster suggested. Was told "very nice customer" but that he repeatedly attempted to engage in uncovered full service throughout the session - even to the point of getting aggressive against her will. What's up with that Jim?
I found this one in citypaper. Called last night, made outcall appointment. Too lazy to get out on rainy night. She showed up 45 min later, gave one of the best massages I ever received from asian, took 120 and left. Full hour. I'll see her again, this time I'll try to go further. Will keep you updated.
Visited a place I have in the past and saw Nicole. Not a bad body but not in the top 10 either. Awful rubdown, may have been the 1st person she ever massaged?
On flip, she put cover on and ASKED if I wanted cbj. She asked as if she hoped I'd say no thanks. I answered, Of course. So a lame 2 min go by and I told her just to lay down. Nice tight kitty, not very deep. Made me feel good about myself that I couldn't go balls deep, LOL.
Turned her over and dogged for a few before finishing. Just going through the motions. This was about as middle of the road as you can get. My hobby has dwindled due to time and money, so I was ok with it as a once every few months deal. But would not return.
I asked about "Jim" as previous poster suggested. Was told "very nice customer" but that he repeatedly attempted to engage in uncovered full service throughout the session - even to the point of getting aggressive against her will. What's up with that Jim?
But believe what you want. I have NEVER forced anything and NEVER went bareback.
JJ
Pilot Aviator
06-05-09, 22:34
Angie.
You are wonderful, your place is wonderful. You make us all feel like long-missing friends. A sincere welcome back, a drink, some chit chat. Really nice rooms for the massage (large and comfortable) and the best table shower anywhere (always)
All the various ladies.- those that I've met several times, and those "new friends" that I've only met once or twice.- all are nice people.- and as you know, I am nice and I tell everyone to always be nice to the ladies.
Angie. The quality of the massage lately has gone down. Perhaps inexperience (and if that was all, it would be OK). But Angie, I was there Tuesday.- it was quiet (only one other client the entire time I was there).- and the "time" is my concern/complaint.
For three years now I've enjoyed being a fairly regular client. Tuesday, as usual, I asked/paid for an hour massage.
Angie. This is the 4th time in a row I've been shorted time (significantly less than 60 minutes). The really great shower gets shorter and shorter. The massage gets shorter.- and anywhere from 40-50 minutes I've been told "thank you, looking forward to your next visit".- and left scratching my head as to why I don't get the full hour like I used to.
I've found another place that gives a good massage and TS.- and where an hour is much closer to 60 minutes.
We all think you read the board.- if so.- I'd like to come back.- but, please remember, a full hour.
Gents. I'm not naming the lady this time because I don; t want anyone to be scolded. It was a good massage, a great shower.- I would have left totally happy.- but I am a little peaved about leaving early.
Always be nice to the ladies
PA
I visited Monday, because two weeks ago, Tia, the previous girl said she's leaving and new girl is coming. There was older lady, good service, but she told me she's only substitute and there will be new one later this week. I checked in yesterday and yes Lulu is very nice. I'm going to repeat before she leaves in the middle of the month. I didn't ask about Jim, but I think Qasian's report is bs as well, most of it. It doesn't sound real.
Originally Posted by Qasian
I asked about "Jim" as previous poster suggested. Was told "very nice customer" but that he repeatedly attempted to engage in uncovered full service throughout the session - even to the point of getting aggressive against her will. What's up with that Jim?
But believe what you want. I have NEVER forced anything and NEVER went bareback.
JJI agree. Girls like her usually make up funny stories like that when asked about a particular individual who requested to be asked about. Heck, even I would have almost believed her if it weren't for the bruises around her hips where it looked like someone grabbed ahold of her too hard, like maybe trying to restrain her. That was just way too much theatrics to ever believe a story like that. At any rate, I'm just the messenger repeating the response to an inquiry you requested.
Roamin Roman
06-06-09, 19:25
I visited Monday, because two weeks ago, Tia, the previous girl said she's leaving and new girl is coming. There was older lady, good service, but she told me she's only substitute and there will be new one later this week. I checked in yesterday and yes Lulu is very nice. I'm going to repeat before she leaves in the middle of the month. I didn't ask about Jim, but I think Qasian's report is bs as well, most of it. It doesn't sound real.Did this older lady happen to have very small, almost non-existent, titties? If so, I agree with your assessment about good service. Linda has sent her to the FCCC a couple times at my request. She's not everyone's cup of jasmine tea, but she's a nice gal. Treat her right.
R::R
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