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12-31-05, 23:00
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Salaryman
09-07-06, 02:06
My fellow mongers,

I was in NYC earlier this week and used an agency called Asian Jade. On their website (www.asianjade-ny.com), they advertise young and pretty Asian companions at only $220 an hour so I thought this was quite reasonable and decided to use their service and I requested a girl called Eva which on their web mentioned that she was 18. When this woman, Eva turned up at my hotel around 1:00 am, she looked more than double the age of 18 and I should have rejected and sent her back. However, being horny and she looked O.K. to me, I decided to let her stay. She asked for her money and also indicated if I'm satisfied with her service, I should give her a tip as they money she received went straight to her boss. I was puzzling but nevertheless gave her the $220. The next thing I noticed was that she immediately got me into a massage but within a couple of minutes she performed her cowgirl act on me. The whole thing only lasted for about 15-20 minutes and she then got out of bed and put her clothes back on. I said that there were still plenty of time left but she said that $220 only allowed one shot so if you finished within 15 minutes, that's your business and she had basically completed her mission. I wasn't aware of that but she headed off immediately. So that was it, a scam and my advice to my fellow mongers is not to use this agent and please spread the message around so our brothers won't commit the same mistake as myself.

SM.

Double Nickle
12-31-06, 07:30
I was caught in this scam about 25 years ago but I wouldn't be surprised if it is still going on. I went down to Times Square to see the ball drop at midnight. For blocks around ground zero it was absolutely jam-packed with people. I was feeling a bit overwhelmed and nervous and it probably showed. All of a sudden an absolutely gorgeous young raven haired beauty of medium height approached me. She was well dressed and didn't at all look like a street walker or loose woman of any sort. She told me she was having a party and did I want to come. I told her "sure" as suavely as I could (not very) and she led me to the back entrance of a nondescript building and up some stairs. There I was told to wait for her return. I gave her a couple of jacksons "for liquor. " I waited for, I don't know, half an hour or 45 minutes. All of a sudden 3 even younger guys angrily charged in looking for the woman. It seems they had been waiting much longer and had paid a couple of franklins. They finally figured out it was a scam and were really in the mood to pound someone. They literally ran down the stairs and out the front door. I followed more leisurely, disappointed but glad I hadn't paid as much as the others.

Double Nickle

Rxgpa
01-21-07, 10:19
Fellows,

I lived in Asia for a long time. Just show me several pictures of the girls and I can tell you with 95% accuracy that the picture is real or not. Guys, Asian women are not as comfortable to just show their bodies with all those posts when taking pictures. One simple rule you can use is eye contact. If the girl in the picture has direct eye contact with the camera, even though it is shaded by computer, then most likely, the picture is taken from a magazine or gallery. I browsed about 10 Asian escorts sites and I conclude that ALL of them are bait and switch. If the beautiful girls in those pictures really give FS, they should charge at least $10. not $2 - $3 as advertised!

Having said that, I did use their service once, expecting the switch. Over the phone, I was told they would send a young Korean woman to my room. 30 min later, a young woman around 23 showed up. Turned out, she was Japanese, couldn't even speak English other than the broken "two hundred and fifty dollars." She was short and a little chubby, but with a very cute Angel face. She said she came from a village in Japan. Massage for 5 min then real business and in 25 min she was out of the door. Not a full hour is typical for these Asian service here. In Korea, I was treated like a King! It is unfortunate that they don't bring their "culture" with them.

Asia Playa
01-22-07, 17:10
Turned out, she was Japanese, couldn't even speak English other than the broken "two hundred and fifty dollars."Great post, agree totally about the pix. Easy to see when a pro model is being used I think- if she looks perfect, she ain't the one coming to your door!

That said, which agency did you try? I visit NY sometimes & want to experience a J-girl but always end up with Thai or Chinese or something. (you can send PM if you prefer)

Tkrav
03-11-07, 15:57
These two girls ask for 1/2 $ up front via Green Dot cards and then when you e-mail them the card number, they fall off the face of the earth. Stay clear no matter what you do.

T

Tazdude
06-06-08, 04:37
Hello all,
check this provider => http://www.eros-ny.com/files/ny-winy1-winy1.htm


Now check some of my favorite pics from taiwan site = >
http://imgbbs.shangdu.com/bbs.shangdu.com/0/64/527168/file/gra_rika-a014.jpg
http://imgbbs.shangdu.com/bbs.shangdu.com/0/64/527168/file/gra_rika-a012.jpg
http://imgbbs.shangdu.com/bbs.shangdu.com/0/64/527168/file/gra_rika-a016.jpg

Full set of pictures (bit slow but worth the wait)

http://www.mycould.com/discuz/thread-820767-1-2.html

Also:

http://www.asianflower-ny.com/
Fake http://www.asianflower-ny.com/200/list/Vivian/Vivian03.jpg
Now I believe lot asian provider sites use fake pics.

Be careful

Tazdude
06-25-08, 02:52
Called the people on this site and I asked for yuka. I was told that yuka will come to me in half hour. When she arrived I Was at the hotel front desk, she didnt know who I was.

I didnt go to the room. The person who came posed as yuka was older and she did not look anylike the girk in the picture

www.asianangels-ny.com/

Be careful with this site. good luck

RamsRod
07-21-16, 04:56
We never go into a situation looking for drama! 646-XXX-3525 she is another nasty girl! Trying to over charge! Went to see her and got the run around if you do a install do not let her leave the room! Once she takes the money out the room? The games begin! Stall you bad cub if you want Greek she can only lay on her side in a position that's not even close! 2 pops turn to 1! Had to get away from her before I hurt her! She usually at 94-96 & Broadway hotel! Avoid the problems!

BingBang509
07-22-16, 23:39
We never go into a situation looking for drama! 646-XXX-3525 she is another nasty girl! Trying to over charge! Went to see her and got the run around if you do a install do not let her leave the room! Once she takes the money out the room? The games begin! Stall you bad cub if you want Greek she can only lay on her side in a position that's not even close! 2 pops turn to 1! Had to get away from her before I hurt her! She usually at 94-96 & Broadway hotel! Avoid the problems!Do you have any ads of her?

BingBang509
07-22-16, 23:40
Great post, agree totally about the pix. Easy to see when a pro model is being used I think- if she looks perfect, she ain't the one coming to your door!

That said, which agency did you try? I visit NY sometimes & want to experience a J-girl but always end up with Thai or Chinese or something. (you can send PM if you prefer)Why would you guys pay 2. 50 for hour? Do you make 2. 50 hour? Smfh I don't give them more than 50.

RamsRod
07-24-16, 02:24
Text You will never speak to them! Scam all the way! Wants you to give money to guy on street, then go two blocks away to meet her? Don't fool around with them 862-xxx-4926! http://manhattan.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?image=83546167&oid=83546190.

Fmjg5664
03-24-17, 15:43
Mongers look out for this scam. Supposedly a UTR bare provider referred by a member who is very active on the boards and vouched for her. She will say she is very security conscious and will require you to pay in full via PayPal before meeting. I know you can see it coming a mile away. Never pay in advance! Anyway once they had the money the convo stopped and they went ghost. The little head cost me $400. Now you can all tell me I should have known better. I guess that goes for referrals as well for all I know the guy that referred her could have been the one working the game. Grrr.

Member #5794
10-01-17, 19:51
Watch out for this one.

A total loon.

Wants 50 bucks via amazon to sit with you and you get to watch her eat.

Then wants more to go shopping with more of your money. No one has actually fucked her. Per her social media she is heading your way early October.

https://www.gfemonkey.com/profiles/unshaven-intelligent-fit-917-406-4563-escort/55fb8d0a221e5313df8b457c

Fenfen
03-28-19, 09:08
Hey everyone, just wanted to say be careful of Violet. There has been a report on switter that she has robbed him. I also have personally been robbed by her.

She also post on STG and it seems on Albany, she was arrested on drug charges before coming here, which just shows how this could've been avoided.

https://switter.at/@SweetVioletDarling

MichaelSampson
04-08-19, 14:42
Hey everyone, just wanted to say be careful of Violet. There has been a report on switter that she has robbed him. I also have personally been robbed by her.

She also post on STG and it seems on Albany, she was arrested on drug charges before coming here, which just shows how this could've been avoided.

https://switter.at/@SweetVioletDarlingHow do you search switter for reports on a specific provider. Thanks for the heads-up on this one.

UncleThrax
08-25-19, 22:21
5'9", approximately 30 year old Hungarian / Ukranian with curly black hair, kind of a round face, fairly flat chest, decent ass.

Her username on SA is Eva-something. Number she used was 917-xxx-5289.

Thief. Will take the money upfront, ask you to shower and leave while you're showering. I was lucky that I took my stuff into the bathroom with me because something about her just made me feel uncomfortable from the beginning, I should have taken the money too.

Took 2. From me. Not the end of the world, I'll survive. But if you run into her, beware.

BigPoppa516
02-29-20, 12:51
https://adultsearch.com/new-york/queens/female-escorts/1391869

Will ask for money sent for deposit. Is a guy posting girls pics.

Afeez1
10-23-20, 21:48
Be careful of this provider on Eros. When you contact her, she will ask for a booking fee and hourly fee up front before meeting. Very sketchy .

https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/1588884.htm

Zeyto
12-22-20, 18:36
Beware of Luna on Tryst https://tryst.link/escort/lunaoneandonly.

Tried to set up a meeting, asked for I'd Pic and $150 deposit. I've been on a good streak with doing this and did not get burned, so I sent an edited I. D pic and sent the deposit which the number "she" gave was registered to the name Abdul. That was the first red flag but I waved it off as maybe being the handler. Gave the deposit and then said that an hour after before we meet please send the remaining deposit. I asked if she could take cash and said no, asked if I could send it to her in person and again no. Then I said I wouldn't see her, then she said that is a mistake and sent a non sense paragraph that they will post my info and tell me family on facebook if I don't send them $500 in 15 minutes. I simply blocked them and continued on with my night.

BigD212
12-23-20, 12:58
https://tryst.link/escort/vero12

I am happy to report that I only wasted $100 on my bogus deposit. She kept me hanging in a hotel lobby for almost an hour, working me the whole time to send the balance first. No threats of outing me thankfully but the heck with that!

Zeyto
12-23-20, 17:12
I actually also tried to set something up with her as well a few months ago and same thing, deposit $100 and kept me waiting outside the hotel. Decided to go home and block the number as well.


https://tryst.link/escort/vero12

I am happy to report that I only wasted $100 on my bogus deposit. She kept me hanging in a hotel lobby for almost an hour, working me the whole time to send the balance first. No threats of outing me thankfully but the heck with that!

Hines Karlton
12-29-20, 11:49
If they are asking for deposit even before seeing you.

It's a scam don't do it.

Patcat88
11-05-21, 03:09
https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/5595785.htm

9293535367.

2124442348.

I don't really give reports here but, but there was this girl on eros that was just too appetizing to pass. A month ago I saw the most beautiful girl in the world at an expensive well known strip club in Manhattan. I did some tease with what I could do but I did ask her for a paid encounter she said she will never do them outside the club. My interaction with the girl stopped at that point but I see this eros ad and tryst ad. I've came back one more time to the club, this is the girl in the photos and on a pole.

So I did a booking with this girl. She can very shortly speak on the phone then she hung up saying text me when you're ready to give me cash. Terrible Russian accent but the girl in the photo and on a pole is a Brazilian with a six-month-old boob job. In any case someone did actually pay in a Lyft to come to my address, but it was a really thin really dark no boobs Latina with straight hair. She was dressed upscale club with above the knee boots, she can go to a regular nightclub in New York and find a guy if she really wanted to. But at over 40 with wrinkles she is probably a user. I showed my text log to the Spanish girl and asked her is this you and she was just looking hard in my eyes and I knew it was time for me to walk off the meet into the night with no gift. I'd still love to know Kelly's real info since Kelly from the club will not give me her information but someone stole her photos. I'm not sure the girl who showed up had my actual number since we did exchange what we were wearing 5 minutes before the room number, but we didn't actually phone call once she showed up. I can't tell if it was an agent or the 40 year old Latina. I was cursed out by text afterwards saying I was dumb for believing the girl in the photo would ever show up to fuck for 500 outcall. Cest la vie.

BrooklynMatt
11-05-21, 13:57
https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/5595785.htm

9293535367.

2124442348.

I don't really give reports here but, but there was this girl on eros that was just too appetizing to pass. A month ago I saw the most beautiful girl in the world at an expensive well known strip club in Manhattan. I did some tease with what I could do but I did ask her for a paid encounter she said she will never do them outside the club. My interaction with the girl stopped at that point but I see this eros ad and tryst ad. I've came back one more time to the club, this is the girl in the photos and on a pole.

So I did a booking with this girl. She can very shortly speak on the phone then she hung up saying text me when you're ready to give me cash. Terrible Russian accent but the girl in the photo and on a pole is a Brazilian with a six-month-old boob job. In any case someone did actually pay in a Lyft to come to my address, but it was a really thin really dark no boobs Latina with straight hair. She was dressed upscale club with above the knee boots, she can go to a regular nightclub in New York and find a guy if she really wanted to. But at over 40 with wrinkles she is probably a user. I showed my text log to the Spanish girl and asked her is this you and she was just looking hard in my eyes and I knew it was time for me to walk off the meet into the night with no gift. I'd still love to know Kelly's real info since Kelly from the club will not give me her information but someone stole her photos. I'm not sure the girl who showed up had my actual number since we did exchange what we were wearing 5 minutes before the room number, but we didn't actually phone call once she showed up. I can't tell if it was an agent or the 40 year old Latina. I was cursed out by text afterwards saying I was dumb for believing the girl in the photo would ever show up to fuck for 500 outcall. Cest la vie.What I've found with the expensive girls is always google the name and the number and look for reviews. Googling the 929 numbers leads to ads of her and of other girls as well and a review from TER stating that it's a service and they send other girls. When you're spending that much you should be getting not only the girl in the picture but a solid performance from her. Always do your research.

Itoriffic
11-14-21, 22:35
As a General Rule folks. Never. EVER. Pay a deposit. Even with "good reviews". It's a scam 99.999% of the time.

For protection, I personally implement the following after an ad maker asks for a deposit:

1. Ask them to verify their pictures (which are usually ALWAYS of a hot girl) by sending me a selfie of themselves giving the peace sign.

Usually, the conversation ends there because the pics are fake. But I have seen on osscaion the girl in the pics IS REAL, and actually sends a selfie. HOWEVER. Take a look at the background. Does it look like a hotel room they claim to be in? Is it obviously an apartment somewhere?

2. If it seems like it COULD be a hotel room, ask them to take an additional picture of themselves in the lobby AT THE HOTEL THEY CLAIM TO BE AT.

I shit you not, not ONE person who has EVER asked for an upfront donation has EVER been able to do this. Because, the girl in the pics, if real, in part of the scam, and is NOT at the hotel.

Personally, if they ask for a deposit, just tell them to FUCK OFF. It's quicker.

NYCAux1
11-15-21, 10:47
As a General Rule folks. Never. EVER. Pay a deposit. Even with "good reviews". It's a scam 99.999% of the time.

For protection, I personally implement the following after an ad maker asks for a deposit:

1. Ask them to verify their pictures (which are usually ALWAYS of a hot girl) by sending me a selfie of themselves giving the peace sign.

Usually, the conversation ends there because the pics are fake. But I have seen on osscaion the girl in the pics IS REAL, and actually sends a selfie. HOWEVER. Take a look at the background. Does it look like a hotel room they claim to be in? Is it obviously an apartment somewhere?

2. If it seems like it COULD be a hotel room, ask them to take an additional picture of themselves in the lobby AT THE HOTEL THEY CLAIM TO BE AT.

I shit you not, not ONE person who has EVER asked for an upfront donation has EVER been able to do this. Because, the girl in the pics, if real, in part of the scam, and is NOT at the hotel..Consider this, even if the provider is real, she can still rip you off and not honor the deposit.

It's happened many times, so people shouldn't even consider a deposit, whether the provider's real or not, it can be a scam. The world is very dishonest.

Critias
11-15-21, 12:41
Stay far away from Alice, she demands a deposit and then claims she never got it after spending it. Gift cards. Total dirtbag. Yeah, totally my fault for sending a deposit, I'm an idiot.

Just be warned. This is cross-posted to DC because she's had ads / profiles online for both areas (see links).

https://sexyalicegray.escortbook.com/gallery

http://alicegutter.cuties-sites.com/#/ photos.

615-307-1498.

At hornytruth on Switter.

Itoriffic
01-07-22, 21:17
https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/4908828.htm?wn=1

Girl claims in texts to be GFE friendly and open to all types of services, then when you make plans to go see her, ghosts you reminding her and completely wastes your time. Trys to up the price every time you text with her and suddenly has a selective memory when it comes time to perform. Stay far away.

HeroesBlend
01-08-22, 15:23
https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/4908828.htm?wn=1

Girl claims in texts to be GFE friendly and open to all types of services, then when you make plans to go see her, ghosts you reminding her and completely wastes your time. Trys to up the price every time you text with her and suddenly has a selective memory when it comes time to perform. Stay far away.What are her rates?

What didn't she do that she promised?

Does she do BBJ, BBFS, anal play, etc. Where can you cum.

HollywoodViper
01-09-22, 12:54
https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/4908828.htm?wn=1

Girl claims in texts to be GFE friendly and open to all types of services, then when you make plans to go see her, ghosts you reminding her and completely wastes your time. Trys to up the price every time you text with her and suddenly has a selective memory when it comes time to perform. Stay far away.Rule of thumb. No website or social media like Twitter, most likely a fake. I avoid them if they just have a number no matter how hot they look.

BrooklynMatt
01-09-22, 18:45
https://www.eros.com/new_york/new_york/files/4908828.htm?wn=1

Girl claims in texts to be GFE friendly and open to all types of services, then when you make plans to go see her, ghosts you reminding her and completely wastes your time. Trys to up the price every time you text with her and suddenly has a selective memory when it comes time to perform. Stay far away.The ad just screams scam. First, there no description at all. Under description it says she' 3'9" and measurements are 45-45-45. If you google the number nothing comes up. If you google her name this comes up:

https://twitter.com/Bohobarbiexxx

Same girl, different phone number.

Did you actually see her or did she just ghost? Did she ask for a deposit?

Itoriffic
02-05-22, 12:42
The ad just screams scam. First, there no description at all. Under description it says she' 3'9" and measurements are 45-45-45. If you google the number nothing comes up. If you google her name this comes up:

https://twitter.com/Bohobarbiexxx

Same girl, different phone number.

Did you actually see her or did she just ghost? Did she ask for a deposit?We spoke. She promised specific services, I made arrangements, left to see her, texted her to make sure we were good, she claims suddenly she doesn't do that, and that "I'm a weirdo" and ghosts me.

So yeah. Waste of time. I my time is as valuable as my money.

Citation48
02-05-22, 14:54
So yeah. Waste of time. I my time is as valuable as my money.I agree but at least you didn't lose both of them.

Sypress
02-21-22, 20:42
I stole mary beth's phone, the madam of the establishment and also made 300 dollars off them. Be careful with them they like to call police on their clients so I dipped.

CrochLoose
03-22-22, 15:48
I stole mary beth's phone, the madam of the establishment and also made 300 dollars off them. Be careful with them they like to call police on their clients so I dipped.So you robbed them? And then they called the cops?

Itoriffic
04-17-22, 14:06
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/newyork/queens/79828104

So, fresh new rip-off report.

This is actually two different scenarios. I tried to see this girl in November for a short stay. Made arrangements, everything fine. I park and I text her she's there. No response. I then text her again after 10 minutes and she replies "she's busy hold on". After another half hour I told her I was out of there. Waste of time, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt.

Today, I see she's back around, so I hit her up. Make arrangements. I take the train in, so I bought a ticket and all that. I'm nearly at Jamaica when she says "oh I got my period suddenly, sorry!" Like, first off, no girl suddenly gets her period. I had a GF for 6 years and she knew to the day when it was coming. I was determined not to get stood up by this girl again, so I said a BJ only is fine. I text her when I'm at the hotel, and she tells me to call her when I'm on the 8th floor. I do, and she tells me "804" so I go, knock, no answer. The cleaning lady saw me and told me "that room is empty, I just cleaned it".

LMAO. So I text her like "Uh. 804 is empty". Message blocked.

So like, I don't know what the hell is up with this chick but if you feel like wasting your time and money on her, don't. She's done it twice to me in a span of 5 months and I am officially calling her a rip off artist. Not so much for supplying shitty services, but for wasting the time and money it takes to get there just to find out she ghosted you. Remember these photos cause she uses them over and over on each ad, and avoid at all costs.

HollywoodViper
04-18-22, 20:41
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/newyork/queens/79828104

So, fresh new rip-off report.

This is actually two different scenarios. I tried to see this girl in November for a short stay. Made arrangements, everything fine. I park and I text her she's there. No response. I then text her again after 10 minutes and she replies "she's busy hold on". After another half hour I told her I was out of there. Waste of time, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt.

Today, I see she's back around, so I hit her up. Make arrangements. I take the train in, so I bought a ticket and all that. I'm nearly at Jamaica when she says "oh I got my period suddenly, sorry!" Like, first off, no girl suddenly gets her period. I had a GF for 6 years and she knew to the day when it was coming. I was determined not to get stood up by this girl again, so I said a BJ only is fine. I text her when I'm at the hotel, and she tells me to call her when I'm on the 8th floor. I do, and she tells me "804" so I go, knock, no answer. The cleaning lady saw me and told me "that room is empty, I just cleaned it".

LMAO. So I text her like "Uh. 804 is empty". Message blocked.

I would have not gone back after the first time

So like, I don't know what the hell is up with this chick but if you feel like wasting your time and money on her, don't. She's done it twice to me in a span of 5 months and I am officially calling her a rip off artist. Not so much for supplying shitty services, but for wasting the time and money it takes to get there just to find out she ghosted you. Remember these photos cause she uses them over and over on each ad, and avoid at all costs.I would have left after the first time she left me hanging. Don't know why you would try again.

Mavericky
09-22-22, 11:16
I would have left after the first time she left me hanging. Don't know why you would try again.If you can leave her contact number and location it can be more helpful. Thanks.

GladiateHer73
10-19-22, 12:40
Anyone know about this ad:

https://tryst.link/escort/txgirl13

This girl is actually Olivia Casta. A very well known IG / OF / Fansly superstar:

https://www.instagram.com/oliviacastaxx/?hl=en

https://fansly.com/oliviacastaxx/posts

So on the one hand, I'm obviously convinced this Tryst profile is fake, but on the other hand this just seems like an insanely stupid choice of pics to use to create a catfish account. This chick is all over the internet as Olivia Casta. So I guess I'm mostly just interested to know if anyone has been scammed by this Tryst account?

BrooklynMatt
10-19-22, 17:19
Anyone know about this ad:

https://tryst.link/escort/txgirl13

This girl is actually Olivia Casta. A very well known IG / OF / Fansly superstar:

https://www.instagram.com/oliviacastaxx/?hl=en

https://fansly.com/oliviacastaxx/posts

So on the one hand, I'm obviously convinced this Tryst profile is fake, but on the other hand this just seems like an insanely stupid choice of pics to use to create a catfish account. This chick is all over the internet as Olivia Casta. So I guess I'm mostly just interested to know if anyone has been scammed by this Tryst account?Scam. Phone number is in the Philippines.

Georgio1234
10-30-23, 02:07
Scam. Phone number is in the Philippines.Yah. Any number that is not in the US I don't trust it.

BTW her current profile on Fansly includes the assertion that she is "not a sex-worker! For now. " - dunno.

Atmss7
02-06-24, 22:09
Just a quick note that this one is a Rip off. Took my deposit and then ghosted. Thank god it was not too much money! Great pics on Twitter, but a scammer. She says she is NYC, so wanted to post it here.

https://annagoldnyc.weebly.com/

BrooklynMatt
02-07-24, 12:55
Just a quick note that this one is a Rip off. Took my deposit and then ghosted. Thank god it was not too much money! Great pics on Twitter, but a scammer. She says she is NYC, so wanted to post it here.

https://annagoldnyc.************/Just did a little googling. Anna Gold is real but she's based in LA. This is a scammer posing as her. Different email address, etc.

Atmss7
02-07-24, 21:50
Just did a little googling. Anna Gold is real but she's based in LA. This is a scammer posing as her. Different email address, etc.Yep. The fake also has a Twitter account. He / she is a scammer. At least it was a small deposit. No fool like an old fool 😂.