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Dr Bombay
11-27-07, 07:57
I made the trip down to our place south of the border the other night. Quiet night no waiting. It seems they have stepped up the rotation of ladies, so sticking with a favorite is pretty much out of the question.

I met Candy, very pretty spinner. Perfect, enhanced B's, nice personality. Pretty good english skills.

We started out with a vigorous t/s. Soapy with no area neglected. The massage was top notch. She saw my tip on the table and disrobed, climbed on my back. The massage was firm, yet she kept it playful. On the flip, the games began.

The only downside was she used too much lube. She made the noises, but between the lube and the condom, I wasn't getting much feeling (and I'm not a small guy). We assumed all the usual positions, but I ended up pulling the condom off and having her finish the job manually. After I finished, she jumped up went for the hot towel, came back, wiped my face and with light kisses, helped me dress. All in all, about an hour. I'd repeat for the massage.

Ian Dokkaebi
11-27-07, 11:03
Has anyone besides me visited this place lately? Met a pretty girl named Joanne there. Thin, somewhat tall, long light brown hair. "Very sensitive" nips. Same for the rest of her. But she sure was fun! ANYone else been there with a report? PM me if you're keeping a low profile. I am surprised I haven't heard more.

Stay safe,

afSome controversies surround this location. Be weary of on-lookers, especially during the day.

Ian

Big Daddy Don
11-27-07, 19:46
Herndon is actually Mexico, not El Salvador. Drive into Maryland and you'll find El Salvador. I assume you'll be going during the day.


You can find a section of San Miguel in Sterling Park these days.. MS13 and all!!

Big Daddy Don
11-27-07, 23:08
Not sure why it is refered to as Green when the door is Red but I went there today and met with Suzie again. She is consistantly a top performer so nothing new to report other than all is well there. I still need to get by 1818 to see June. If it is the one from VA, she is a knockout spinner. A little on the split personality side but I only got the bad June once.

LoveLOS
11-29-07, 07:16
Not sure why it is refered to as Green when the door is Red but I went there today and met with Suzie again. She is consistantly a top performer so nothing new to report other than all is well there. I still need to get by 1818 to see June. If it is the one from VA, she is a knockout spinner. A little on the split personality side but I only got the bad June once.

Let me see if I can weave a sickly web. The Green door belongs to the gay bar and so LE raiding the AMP will hopefully wind up shaking down Adam and Steve, not Mimi and Me... Suzie is @ 1333, June is @ 1818, Bebe is @ 1413. Who's on first?

Important tips for visiting DC Amps:

1333, 1413 & 1818 are really good numbers.
K, L & M are really good letters.
Red-Green colorblind persons should use extreme caution before disrobing.
Remember the words, "Last time I saw [choose = Mimi | Bebe | Cece ]"
If you cant lay your $ under your watch©, use your cell phone© (mute the fucker) instead!
It is still 60¢ for the house and $1.00 for the full "Tour of Korea"
LoveLOS

Dire Wolf98
11-29-07, 10:44
Hi LL,

As someone conducting research for possible future trips to DC, I find your reports helpful and informative (Yes, I am following the Golden Rule of RTFF). It's great to read reports that stay on-topic.

A bit of background: I lived in Japan when this whole Internet thing was taking-off. I became a one-man wrecking crew for the WSG and Tokyo ASP. Then, various websites started to appear on a global basis where I participated.

That being said, as an AMP (KMP) aficionado, I hope to contribute here soon.

Question: LoveLOS - Do you Love the Land Of Smiles?

Respectfully,

Dire Wolf


Let me see if I can weave a sickly web. The Green door belongs to the gay bar and so LE raiding the AMP will hopefully wind up shaking down Adam and Steve, not Mimi and Me... Suzie is @ 1333, June is @ 1818, Bebe is @ 1413. Who's on first? (snip)

Ginger Man
11-29-07, 19:13
I have it from a good source (Nana herself) that Nana, formerly of Supra, is now receiving Gentlemen Callers at the spa formerly known as Sky.

If you liked her then, you will like her now.

Max Beelyun
11-30-07, 02:21
Not much new. Went to Supra again, it's so darn convenient. I asked who was available. "Very nice girl." Of course, but I decided to be insistent. Was offered a line-up by the older mamasan (there are two, one older and one younger fashiony type). I just can't do the line-up thing, so I asked who was available. Maya, Suzie, Looby and Mumbly. Wow, slow day at Supra.

Wasn't feeling energetic enough for Suzie, Maya not my type, didn't know Mumbly, so I picked Looby. Man, I could just stare at her face all day. Not really typical K-girl type, but wow.

Nothing out of the ordinary, just the great stuff I had the last time. She didn't ask for anything up front this time so I guess she remembered me. Nice hard massage (for an AMP), some tickly-teasy stuff, then left to get supplies. Came back and tried a little stripper routine but lost her balance. Too funny. Plus, she probably needs more clothing for that to work well.

Anyway, a nice sit-down CBJ, very enthusiastic, followed by some standing doggy. I could also stare at that ass all day too, it's spectacular. Sadly, the bed was a little high for me, so after a few minutes on tiptoes, I had to jump on the bed and finish, still in doggy (we did disengage first). For you canine aficionados, she can take a lot of pounding for a long time, and I was glad to do so. Nice sound effects throughout. Finished up that way and collapsed on the bed with a smile. Will definitely return.

Still miss Nana, though. Anyone seen her?

LoveLOS
11-30-07, 04:08
Question: LoveLOS - Do you Love the Land Of Smiles?D.Wolf,
Congrads on using wisdom (i.e. learning from the mistakes / triumphs of others --RTFF) and congrats on wit. You got the Thailand connection in one.

Gawd, do I feel like a foreigner in DC. Haven't been in town in like a month. I am tearing up rural Virginia, but way too few cute little Asians live in rural Virginia.



How do you spell



Y E L L O W
F E V E R
?????????? LL

Thesailor
11-30-07, 10:37
Not familiar with 1818. I know the others Can't figure it out. Any help?

1333, 1413 & 1818 are really good numbers.

Triple E
11-30-07, 15:14
Had a visit a while back (month ago) to the non-Asian place way up on Wisconsin, where things float. Didn't get a chance to post until now.

They were still open, but it's been a while since my last visit to any sort of establishment, and this was my first time, so I acted like a noob. Sad, and it almost cost me getting service. If you're going to go, make sure to schedule an appointment, and don't just walk up. They didn't take too kindly to that, and when I made up the excuse that a friend sent me (and used a generic US male name), the "mamasan" (are they still that when they're not Asian) barely set me up.

I was in luck though, and she sent out Jackie, a Latina who's not the hottest, but still has a very tight body. I have a thing for the Latinas, especially well endowed ones, so this was a good choice.

She sent me to the showers (real shower, not a TS, which is very weird) and I had to take care of it myself. I didn't love that, but it's close to home, and something different.

When she came back, I was ready on the table, and she started the massage. Oddly, she never asked for $ for the house, but I wasn't going to stop her. She did ask if I was LE, and I had to chuckle and say no. No idea why I looked like LE, but yeah, they were nervous.

On the flip, she asked what I want, and I asked for HJ, but I got the impression more was on the menu. I was able to touch her the whole time, too, and made sure she enjoyed my fingers as well. It seemed to pay off.

She was so good that I went for the second pop, and then showered again (still weird).

Then she collected the house fee ($8! ) and her tip. I'd probably return, but not without calling first, but other than convenience for me, and a different set of girls, I'm happier to stick with AMP's in the future.

Dairyman
11-30-07, 18:18
Full service is certainly available!



Had a visit a while back (month ago) to the non-Asian place way up on Wisconsin, where things float. Didn't get a chance to post until now.

They were still open, but it's been a while since my last visit to any sort of establishment, and this was my first time, so I acted like a noob. Sad, and it almost cost me getting service. If you're going to go, make sure to schedule an appointment, and don't just walk up. They didn't take too kindly to that, and when I made up the excuse that a friend sent me (and used a generic US male name), the "mamasan" (are they still that when they're not Asian) barely set me up.

I was in luck though, and she sent out Jackie, a Latina who's not the hottest, but still has a very tight body. I have a thing for the Latinas, especially well endowed ones, so this was a good choice.

She sent me to the showers (real shower, not a TS, which is very weird) and I had to take care of it myself. I didn't love that, but it's close to home, and something different.

When she came back, I was ready on the table, and she started the massage. Oddly, she never asked for $ for the house, but I wasn't going to stop her. She did ask if I was LE, and I had to chuckle and say no. No idea why I looked like LE, but yeah, they were nervous.

On the flip, she asked what I want, and I asked for HJ, but I got the impression more was on the menu. I was able to touch her the whole time, too, and made sure she enjoyed my fingers as well. It seemed to pay off.

She was so good that I went for the second pop, and then showered again (still weird).

Then she collected the house fee ($8! ) and her tip. I'd probably return, but not without calling first, but other than convenience for me, and a different set of girls, I'm happier to stick with AMP's in the future.

A John
11-30-07, 18:27
Come on your shitting me. LMFAO
If you know the others than WTF
There's 3-addresses and 3-letters get your ass over to 1818

Happy Hunting
AJ





Can't figure it out. Any help?
1333, 1413 & 1818 are really good numbers.

Dave Col
12-01-07, 03:30
I'm new to the area and really appreciate your help. A quick question, what time are they open on Sat and Sun? I looked at the map and are they all in NW DC? I'm not a big dude, so any suggestion for my first time in DC?

Thanks,

Dave


Come on your shitting me. LMFAO.

If you know the others than WTF.

There's 3-addresses and 3-letters get your ass over to 1818

Happy Hunting,

AJ

Wayward One
12-01-07, 12:17
Full service is certainly available!

Yeah, but will they let me in the tank? That's all I want to know. Last time one was being used and the other was busted. girl told me I should have made an appointment with the tank, which I had.

Wayward One

Thesailor
12-02-07, 03:14
I am stumped. You don't mean the place on NY ave, do you? Thought that was gone a long time ago.



Come on your shitting me. LMFAO

If you know the others than WTF.

There's 3-addresses and 3-letters get your ass over to 1818

Happy Hunting,

AJ

Saiyen
12-02-07, 13:54
Visited 1333 friday night and mamasan asked me if it was my 1st time there. I reacted and said yes. The 1st girl sent to me had to be in late 40s, I told her I wanted to speak with mamasan whom had already collected the standard house fee. I explained that the girl she sent was not my type and she sent in koko a few minutes later. Ok massage and pretty mechanical follow through. Koko was in better shape and younger with natural breast. Overall an ok pleasent experience but what happened to the younger fitter girls? Maybe next time I will ask for a line up upfront.

Entropyrules
12-02-07, 13:58
On a recent visit to DC I decided to try Supra - very convenient from the hotel I was staying in. Wasn't sure initially walking in if it was the right place, as only a psychic is advertised, but inside there is a sign just for a "spa" - 4th floor. The old mamasan opened the door and took me straight into a room, as we walked in I asked who was available though as I hadn't been there before, i didn't know the names so she arranged a line-up. She took the 60 for the house. I sat and waited a few minutes then in walk 3 stunningly beautiful girls - Won, Ruby, and one other whose name I didn't catch. Chose Won - her breasts were just perfect, though far from natural, but her face and body - very sexy!

she had me strip then asked what i wanted - "everything" so she indicated I should leave the money on the table. I tried leaving 60, but she pouted, then 80 and she said it was too little, indicating with her hands just a hand job, so I ended up leaving a 100.

I laid down and she stripped, then jumped on the table, giving me a pleasant enought massage, nothing too special. Though the breast rub against the back sure did feel good. Upon turning over she immediately started fondling me and then got up for a minute - she came back and started sucking me, having put a condom in her mouth. I just couldn't get over her breats - they were enhanced, but fortunately she didn't opt for size, but rather firmness. Next time will have to opt for some more tit action!

Overall the experience was great, perhaps a bit expensive. I still favor WGS in NYC, though anything beyond a happy ending seems to be off limits, the full spa experience is very relaxing. At Supra I wasn't offered a table shower before or after, though she did clean me up with a hot towel.

Definately worth a revisit - I just hope I get to go back to DC sometime soon!

Ampman44
12-02-07, 15:07
Hi Guys. I will be visiting from Providence RI, the MP capital of New England. In Providence, the MPs are strickly divided between rub and tug and full service. Yes, you can get a HJ only at a FS place, but you have to pay something close to the full tip, which is 140 plus the 60 house.

What's the situation in DC? I have poured through many posts on this board, and I would be all set if I wanted full service. Only problem is that I want just a good TS, massage, and HJ (and a bit of rimming would be nice! ) and nothing more. I searched under "rub" and got so many hits if was useless. I searched under "tug" and got very few hits. I search "HJ" and got no hits because it does not search terms like that.

I appreciate your advice. BTW, did you know that prostitution is LEGAL in RI if it is done indoors? What sucks is that I live in RI and cannot partake because of risk that I may be spotted. It's like a kid in a candie store unable to sample anything. That's why I do it on business trips, and that's why I'm reaching out for help. Thanks in advance.

A John
12-02-07, 17:37
Really both of you need I say more!

Happy Hunting
AJ



I'm new to the area and really appreciate your help. A quick question, what time are they open on Sat and Sun? I looked at the map and are they all in NW DC? I'm not a big dude, so any suggestion for my first time in DC?
Thanks,
Dave



I am stumped. You don't mean the place on NY ave, do you? Thought that was gone a long time ago.

Zeigmann
12-02-07, 20:41
I'm new in town, and am looking for a good place for a good "massage". Just recently moved to the DC area.

Any good suggestions?

Tjunkyard357
12-02-07, 22:20
My usual spot on a very cold rainy night. Only one attendant was available, so no choice, but mamasan assured me satisfaction. My attendant was Nana: pretty short, shy of tight, not young, but a very nice pair of natural ones (C or greater).

The TS was A+; best I've had in 5 years. The therapeutic rub down was a little weak, but there was a A+ build up to the end. I'm not a FS guy, but this was one of the most pleasurable experiences to date. Second only to one on I street back in the day. One thing weird was how Nana occasionally gave light head butts. She's got a hard head.

Fare was usual

Thesailor
12-02-07, 23:43
When I was at 1413 a couple weeks ago, there were two guys hanging out at the top of the steps. One guy was wearing a floppy hat, and said, "yeah, we are open, come on in! " Like he worked there, or something. Then he added, "Hey man, they have white girls around the corner. " I just looked at him like he was a fucking asshole. His homless buddy then tried to hit me up for a buck. I ignored him, too. Went down and rang the bell. I was tempted to say something to mama about them, but frankly I forgot about it when I saw Bebe walk in!

It does seem like these chumps are turning up outside AMP's more often.


I went to the place across the street from the place J.W. Booth played out his final act. 2 guys in a beat up car showed up. One got out and tried to play a pimp to me, telling me he had the real deal, and the girls in the AMP were ripoffs. He was real pushy about it. I told him I was just waiting for someone. The whole thing put me off, so I left. The guy was a medium skinned black guy in a floppy hat. Anybody else have the same experience around there?

I went around to ESPN Zone for a beer. Then pissed all over the place because of the whole ordeal.

DickAllMighty
12-03-07, 01:55
Recently had a dream about New York's northeastern parts. My dreams usually take me to places close to the metro, but not this time.

In my dreams I met a girl named Peanut (or maybe she was trying to say Pena or something). Very young and innocent looking face. It makes you wonder why she's not hanging out with her friends at the mall instead, or at least why she's not at a high end shop back home. Just judging by her face, it looks like she's early 20s at most. Very tight body, despite the enhancements, which I didn't mind and they were very nicely done anyway. Probably one of the better bodies I've seen, but your mileage may vary. Not too talkative but definitely friendly and welcoming.

TS was average. Got a hard massagi and she walked on my back a little. Which I usually don't like, because who knows if they'd mess up my back. CBJ was good but not exceptional. It was shorter than I like but I didn't complain. I was eager to move on. Cowgirl, mish, and finished by walking the dog. She's not the best technician I've had (though definitely gets the job done) but I really liked her body+face so this is most probably a repeat.

Jake Jj 1492
12-03-07, 08:31
One thing weird was how Nana occasionally gave light head butts. She's got a hard head.
Man, I thought it was only me...glad I've got a hard head too! They were full up late on Wednesday night too. Nothing new to add, but agree the TS was excellent.

Adobe James
12-03-07, 12:48
Been following these posts on CL for a while. There are multiple listings with the same phone number. One of them was for a provider named Tasha, who doesn't do FS, but has some ads for BDSM and some for massage. I got a half-hour session for $.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ers/497163475.html

It was okay. Not sure if that picture is really her, but she was decent looking. Not much interactivity. Surprisingly decent massage. Nice completion. Not sure if I would repeat. Might be better next time, but it's also possible she's not really into it. Also, kind of a dicey neighborhood, near Taylor Yates, if you've seen her.

Junky11
12-04-07, 00:50
When I was at 1413 a couple weeks ago, there were two guys hanging out at the top of the steps. One guy was wearing a floppy hat, and said, "yeah, we are open, come on in! " Like he worked there, or something. Then he added, "Hey man, they have white girls around the corner. " I just looked at him like he was a fucking asshole. His homless buddy then tried to hit me up for a buck. I ignored him, too. Went down and rang the bell. I was tempted to say something to mama about them, but frankly I forgot about it when I saw Bebe walk in!

It does seem like these chumps are turning up outside AMP's more often.

This kind of thing comes and goes. Its hard to tell how someone will react but sometimes I just tell belligerent homeless people "back off mother fucker!" (with no trace of visible fear) and they backoff. Would be pimps might get violent. They have actually gotten into the AMPs and wreaked some havoc in there, threatening the women and such. Some AMPs close down for a month or so because of this kind of thing. Pimps are absolutely the scumiest mother fuckers on the earth. I just wish someone would just deal with them.

LoveLOS
12-04-07, 08:21
I'm new in town, and am looking for a good place for a good "massage". Just recently moved to the DC area.

Any good suggestions?Ziggy,
Damn. I'm stumped. I don't think the service is available in DC. You have to fuck them or they throw you out. Try Virginia or Maryland -- they don't let you fuck as much there, so maybe they will give you a massage...

I bet the information you seek is like - written right here. Just scroll down and read a few fucking pages. There is software that can read web pages out loud to you if you are unable to read it all by yourself.

Good luck, sounds like you are gonna need it.
LL

Freshly Snipes
12-04-07, 10:45
Ziggy,

Damn. I'm stumped. I don't think the service is available in DC. You have to fuck them or they throw you out. Try Virginia or Maryland -- they don't let you fuck as much there, so maybe they will give you a massage...

I bet the information you seek is like - written right here. Just scroll down and read a few fucking pages. There is software that can read web pages out loud to you if you are unable to read it all by yourself.

Good luck, sounds like you are gonna need it.

LLLOL! This guy is so funny and witty, as always.:rolleyes:

CabDriver52
12-04-07, 19:19
Ziggy,

Damn. I'm stumped. I don't think the service is available in DC. You have to fuck them or they throw you out. Try Virginia or Maryland -- they don't let you fuck as much there, so maybe they will give you a massage.

I bet the information you seek is like - written right here. Just scroll down and read a few fucking pages. There is software that can read web pages out loud to you if you are unable to read it all by yourself.

Good luck, sounds like you are gonna need it.

LLHear hear. Nobody ever gets the RTFF do they. If it was a snake the dude would be dead.

Yuengling69
12-05-07, 00:08
Ok, some I'm a couple weeks late on getting the word out, but hey, I was on vacation.

Anyway, I went to go see Ruby across the street from where I am a member, and Ruby was AWESOME. The TS was fabulous, the massage was Outstanding, and the flip. Was OK. No insertion, but I Senior can write me for more details and exact locations.

Max Beelyun
12-05-07, 01:03
Went back to 1413 upon hearing that Nana was there. I'd had only a couple hours of sleep over the past few days but she woke me up nonetheless. She really acts like she's really glad to see you. She probably really is glad, but the cynic in me won't be silenced. YMMV of course -- I like her and I do believe she likes me back. Anyway, she gives a really good massagi, and her french is to die for, and she will accommodate you in most ways with enthusiasm. For you uninitiated, she's not a spinner and not dazzlingly beautiful, just pretty and sweet and very fun. Treat her well and you'll be rewarded well.

LoveLOS
12-05-07, 05:57
JJJ,
Dude, thanks for the tip - last one you sent I followed up on. Verdict is that she is not the person we are looking for, but definitely worth a visit.

OK Here is the deal, Today, Wed Dec 5, at 12:30pm in Northwest somewhere, there is a roundtable happening! Hope you read early.

If you are not a notable posting member, don't respond, cause I might miss your PM.

OTOH, If you are a contributing member, have time for lunch with some of PM me by noon for the location. No girls, regular restaurant with a few of the boys.

LoveLOS

BigTigger
12-05-07, 10:30
On a recent visit to DC I decided to try Supra - very convenient from the hotel I was staying in. Wasn't sure initially walking in if it was the right place, as only a psychic is advertised, but inside there is a sign just for a "spa" - 4th floor. The old mamasan opened the door and took me straight into a room, as we walked in I asked who was available though as I hadn't been there before, i didn't know the names so she arranged a line-up. She took the 60 for the house. I sat and waited a few minutes then in walk 3 stunningly beautiful girls - Won, Ruby, and one other whose name I didn't catch. Chose Won - her breasts were just perfect, though far from natural, but her face and body - very sexy!

she had me strip then asked what i wanted - "everything" so she indicated I should leave the money on the table. I tried leaving 60, but she pouted, then 80 and she said it was too little, indicating with her hands just a hand job, so I ended up leaving a 100.

I laid down and she stripped, then jumped on the table, giving me a pleasant enought massage, nothing too special. Though the breast rub against the back sure did feel good. Upon turning over she immediately started fondling me and then got up for a minute - she came back and started sucking me, having put a condom in her mouth. I just couldn't get over her breats - they were enhanced, but fortunately she didn't opt for size, but rather firmness. Next time will have to opt for some more tit action!

Overall the experience was great, perhaps a bit expensive. I still favor WGS in NYC, though anything beyond a happy ending seems to be off limits, the full spa experience is very relaxing. At Supra I wasn't offered a table shower before or after, though she did clean me up with a hot towel.

Definately worth a revisit - I just hope I get to go back to DC sometime soon!


If this was just CBJ, then you overpaid...if this was "everything", then it was the going rate.

BigTigg

Horsetrader
12-05-07, 12:25
... I sat and waited a few minutes then in walk 3 stunningly beautiful girls - Won, Ruby, and one other whose name I didn't catch. Chose Won - her breasts were just perfect, though far from natural, but her face and body - very sexy! ... I also selected Won during my last visit. "Everything" was provided for the standard fee but there were too many rules (don't touch this, don't do that). It all felt very mechanical, almost as if she was Rosie the Robot from the Jetson's. I will not repeat.

Horsetrader

Junky11
12-05-07, 15:27
Ok, some I'm a couple weeks late on getting the word out, but hey, I was on vacation.

Anyway, I went to go see Ruby across the street from where I am a member, and Ruby was AWESOME. The TS was fabulous, the massage was Outstanding, and the flip. Was OK. No insertion, but I Senior can write me for more details and exact locations.

Sounds nice

Benchseats Rock
12-05-07, 19:50
OK Here is the deal, Today, Wed Dec 5, at 12:30pm in Northwest somewhere, there is a roundtable happening! Hope you read early.

If you are not a notable posting member, don't respond, cause I might miss your PM.

OTOH, If you are a contributing member, have time for lunch with some of PM me by noon for the location. No girls, regular restaurant with a few of the boys.


Fuck.... You couldn't have called me? I was in the area. Not that I have anything to report - I was at work - but I would have come for some Kimchi or something like that....


Bench

Baltimonger
12-05-07, 21:00
When I was at 1413 a couple weeks ago, there were two guys hanging out at the top of the steps. One guy was wearing a floppy hat, and said, "yeah, we are open, come on in! " Like he worked there, or something. Then he added, "Hey man, they have white girls around the corner. " I just looked at him like he was a fucking asshole. His homless buddy then tried to hit me up for a buck. I ignored him, too. Went down and rang the bell. I was tempted to say something to mama about them, but frankly I forgot about it when I saw Bebe walk in!

It does seem like these chumps are turning up outside AMP's more often.

That sounds like the guys who parked in front of Royal I posted about a couple of months ago (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=572759&postcount=1437); one had a floppy hat. Drove up in a piece o' shit Toyota or Nissan (not quite sure about the make), then sat in the car and intercepted every white guy who came along.

Southern G
12-05-07, 22:59
I had a great dream today. I dreamed that it snowed in town and I found my way on the Metro from Alexandria to uptown. Some nice folks had given me directions on a website. So many to choose from. I chose Supra. Climbed the stairs shaking snow from my coat. Rang the bell and was lead to a room. I asked Mamasan how many girls were working. She said two busy, three free. She asked if I would like to see them, I said sure. She comes back with three very pretty young ladies all in bikinis.

I am a boom guy so I chose Ruby. Gorgeous figure from top to bottom. Nice hug and a quck kiss to welcome me. She asked if I wanted a shower and I said I was cold so that would be great. Got a nice hot and fun shower. Extra attention to certain parts. Back to the room and she took a quick shower. She came back, more hugs and kisses (truth be told: she was not a great kisser, but that was her only draw back). I helped her undress and began to explore her fabulous figure. I offered her a massage and enjoyed rubbing all down her back. Had a great bubble ass. The best I have ever seen on a AMP girl. I could rub and kiss it for hours. I flipped her over and enjoyed her boobs and then some very good DATY. After a nice suttle O she then asked me to lie down for a massage. She gave extra attention to my ass and nuts. Not the best rubbing massage, but very stimulating.

On the flip she laid down beside me for a little cuddle and kissing. She then used her mouth to install the love glove. Excellent CBJ, pulled her over for some 69 and soon she mounted on top. She was very tight. Did not take long to get close to the explosion. I asked her if she liked Doggie. She said yes and hoped off and assumed the position. She really seemed to enjoy. I asked her if she like to be pounded hard and she said yes. My favorite way to finish. After she asked if I wanted another shower and I said yes for a short standing shower. Nice and clean and very happy camper. Then back out in the snow.

I just love the AMPs here in DC. 6 for the house up front and $ for the FS. Cannot beat the value for service anywhere, well except maybe Bangkok, but that is another story.

I would higly recommend Supra and Ruby. She said her tits were 4 months after surgury. They had settled into a nice position. Implants but very nice and fun to play with implants.

Safe Hunting

Triple E
12-06-07, 09:47
Thanks for the tip! Not much info on H&H in here, so I was mostly flying blind.


Full service is certainly available!

Big Daddy Don
12-06-07, 15:45
Made it out to 1818 today and asked for June. Mamasan dodged the question saying how long it had been since she saw me (I had never been there before). I got to the waiting room and she told me June was not there any more. I wanted to leave but she had Tina in tow. She is young (mid 20's) and very pretty so I changed my mind. She seemed very cute but I should have heeded the warning signs... She asked for the tip with the house fee. We got to the TS and she never touched my crack. Rim job is out... Back in the room after the half assed massage, I wanted a little DATY. She complained, let me get a few licks and no more. Insisted that I lay back and proceeded with CBJ, on to Mish and a doggie finish.

If you like just a quick suck and fuck with a pretty girl she was OK. I like a performer that likes to have fun.

Face 8.5
Body 10
Performance 4

Will not repeat.

Ginger Man
12-06-07, 17:12
At 1818 they have always worked with getting the tip up front. 100% of the time as far as I know. It has been like that since they opened in the 1990's.

I was once told by a spa girl that 1818 was originally for "Chinese men." I don't know if that has anything to do with anything.

I know it used to be that girls would come into town to work 1818, then later you would see them in other spas, but never the other way around.

Rejected Monke
12-06-07, 18:48
At 1818 they have always worked with getting the tip up front. 100% of the time as far as I know. It has been like that since they opened in the 1990's.

I was once told by a spa girl that 1818 was originally for "Chinese men." I don't know if that has anything to do with anything.

I know it used to be that girls would come into town to work 1818, then later you would see them in other spas, but never the other way around.

I always wonder why people get so worked up when girls ask for tips up front. It's called a "tip" but we all know that it's standard fare and it's not something that's supposed to vary. The reason the girls have to ask for tip separately from the house fee is to reduce the liability to the manager and owners of the establishment.

Of course this not only exposes them to LE but also assholes who decide not to pay at the end.

Rejected Monke
12-06-07, 18:52
Saw Mina at 1818. Not sure if this is the same as Tina or not. Description is she's maybe 5'6" with young, pretty face. Nice body, though her chest is a little hard. Fair skinned. Sweet girl and even though she put maximum effort into the CBJ, I didn't really enjoy it. 10 for effort, though, I guess. Everything else was standard fare.

Big Daddy Don
12-06-07, 19:33
I always wonder why people get so worked up when girls ask for tips up front. It's called a "tip" but we all know that it's standard fare and it's not something that's supposed to vary. The reason the girls have to ask for tip separately from the house fee is to reduce the liability to the manager and owners of the establishment.

Of course this not only exposes them to LE but also assholes who decide not to pay at the end.

You're right about not getting worked up over tipping up front, that's why I did it without question. It's just if you hold back the tip it seems they work harder to earn it. The performance today was an example. I enjoy DATY. I love seeing them get off. That was not an option for me today. She had my money and I was to do it her way or it was tough. Don't get me wrong, I got my rocks off but it was not as fun a time as it could have been.

It does also seem to expose them to LE though. I guess like in my case when I gave her .6 she only said "I need full payment". I guess in LE terms they could just be more expensive than most places.

I was told that it was a place that catered to Asians perhaps that has some bearing on the matter. I knew June and she was always a good time for me. To bad she was not available.

As they say YMMV!!!

BigTigger
12-07-07, 11:27
You're right about not getting worked up over tipping up front, that's why I did it without question. It's just if you hold back the tip it seems they work harder to earn it. ... Don't get me wrong, I got my rocks off but it was not as fun a time as it could have been.


I agree 100%. IHC used to be that way (may still be) and it always concerns me. Incidentially all of my ATFs at AMPs have been when the tip was later.

BigTigg

Big Daddy Don
12-07-07, 12:13
Saw Mina at 1818. Not sure if this is the same as Tina or not. Description is she's maybe 5'6" with young, pretty face. Nice body, though her chest is a little hard. Fair skinned. Sweet girl and even though she put maximum effort into the CBJ, I didn't really enjoy it. 10 for effort, though, I guess. Everything else was standard fare.

Yes, It sounds like the same girl. She did a good job on the effort of the CBJ, lots of tounge action and slurping but her attitude was more that of a server at the checkout line. There to serve but not to enjoy it. She was very pretty and had a knockout body, it was great looking at her face during Mish and that beautiful body during doggie but I like a genuine orgasm from DATY. They can fake the moans and even the spasms but you know they are not faking when the juices start flowing and they break out into a light sweat. If you can make them cum first you can get a much better GFE.

Gashman
12-07-07, 14:32
Meet with Sophia, at mid-30 to early 40, spinner with superb enhanced C's. 2 of 3 were busy, had not found SUPRA during this hunting trip and it was cold/wet outside and I decided not to walk up the steps to 3rd floor M-ST SPA for a lineup. I was not disappointed with Sabrina or Golds.

A real mutually enjoyable experience, at 1. 2-1. 3 in time, not rushed. The TS was excellent with a superb and thorough cleaning. She was having an excellent time in the TS and would not disappoint in the room.

Message was good, not excellent, but we were both ready. Some great and long AR, breast action, DATY and multiple positions. Sophia is a real spinner with very good muscle control. Her nipples are large, long and very sensitive. Nicely trimmed, cleaned and tasty puss! Can't deny those juices and spasms.

Hot towell, mouth wash, and lots of GFE kissing, holding and Sophia begging me for another hour or return the next day. Egos can be a dangerous thing. She was really getting wet again. Fingers roaming constantly on that tight butt and smooth puss,. Putting my clothes on and she lay down for some more DATY and a second MISH "no charge" but Momasan interrupted 5 mins in and said time is up! What was up was me wanting a second Pop!

Great trip to DC, which I had not done in a year 1/2. Makes me want tos top working PWC for a hopeful return of HWC.

TS-8
MASS - 6
FS - 8
Looks - 8

Standard Fair

Repeat - Always but I love variety!

Elric
12-07-07, 16:19
Oh yeah, WGS is great. The only thing I don't like about WGS is that the TS is performed by some other girl (mexican chick) and just a wash, no extras. TS is my fav, and wish I could find a B2B one somewhere!


Overall the experience was great, perhaps a bit expensive. I still favor WGS in NYC, though anything beyond a happy ending seems to be off limits, the full spa experience is very relaxing. At Supra I wasn't offered a table shower before or after, though she did clean me up with a hot towel.

Pattayadiver
12-07-07, 16:49
Well I visited 1413 last night and saw Nana, She is very cute and we had a good time, even layed down to cuddle afterwards. It was very nice, except... There is a new club that opened up upstaids and the base was shaking the walls. It was not very relaxing. The music vibrated throughout the whole place and there were about 20 people standing at the top of the stairs smoking out and throwing their butts down the stairs. I can see there being problems soon. Oh well, it was the standard fee and she cleaned all the right areas very well during the shower and really got into the protection placement, it was quite enjoyable. Be safe out there.

BTW, I stopped by 1818 first and there was no one there at 6:30 pm :( Tried to call and there was no answer, when I called back at about 9 she said they would be open today at noon. Hmmm oh well

Pcpc1688
12-07-07, 22:54
Had another great session with Susie, total GFE with some BBBJ too. Wahoo. She does perform well for me. :) Great attitude and skills.

PC out

Philkrenshaw
12-08-07, 13:39
I'll be visiting DC soon. Browsing through the forum, it sounds like lots of places have closed, including the one I went to before. I'll be staying at the Hilton north of DuPont Circle. Can anyone confirm Supra is the closest place? Seems that way to me reading through the list, but maybe I missed something. Thanks.

LoveLOS
12-09-07, 00:48
I'll be visiting DC soon. Browsing through the forum, it sounds like lots of places have closed, including the one I went to before. I'll be staying at the Hilton north of DuPont Circle. Can anyone confirm Supra is the closest place? Seems that way to me reading through the list, but maybe I missed something. Thanks.Yes PK. Supra is the closest. Walking distance on a warm day. M street is three blocks further, not a biggie. Look for SWs occasionally around your hotel -- and if you get the chance and are game, there is what appears to be a strip club on the corner just down the hill from the Hilton.

Go to Reports of Distinction in DC - there is a link to the DC Amp map (it is still working, right?)

Report:

(Day 1):
Following up a lead on my ole flame, Bebe LoveLOS, I went to 1413 in search of yet another Bebe (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=587661&highlight=bebe#post587661). No, not the same girl, but if this is what they call, "taking one for the team," I'll take two more... Except for the age, Sailor's report was spot on; especially the 'Can you say "69"?' comment! WOW! Her Korengrish was marginal, but she I understood her to say she is 26, which is very believable. Her body tightness, hands, and breast firmness indicates the younger date to me.

Bebe @ 1413:
Face: 8
Body: 8
TS: 6
Massagi: 7
Sexo: 8
Overall: 8
Repeat: Oh yes. I almost did.

After getting the poison out, I hit sack.

(Day 2):
In the morning we had our Roundtable, attended (in order of appearanvce) by XS, Robie, an LL, was an enjoyable time with good friends. Sorry I was so late in getting it together that nobody of the daytime persuasion could make it, I was hoping to meet a few of you...

XS gave me her name (thanks, buddy!). Her Identity, as well as the AMP attended, shall remain unposted on the public board for reasons I have belabored previously. Info is, of course, available to my inner circle by PM. This girl is probably the next Ms LL, treat her just like a rather creepy thug will fuck your world if you hurt her...

She is 34y.o., about 5'6", her perfect body weight would be about 115. She is @120 and aware the few extra are not ideal. She has natural full 36 C's, which is stunning on her smallish frame. Her long, thin, silky black hair currently has a few waves in in as it falls around her shoulders. Although she thinks they are unattractive, I spotted the Japanese in her ancestry, which gives her the rounded, but not flat face. Her Korean features are softened (melt me). A face like that is made for Missionary.

Ms LL2B @ TAWNN
Face: 9
Body: 8
TS: 8
Massagi: 9
Sexo: 9+
Overall: 9
Repeat: As often as I can until she leaves town! As you know, a 10 is a LARS Scale© private stock keeper. This guys, was the first time I met her. I can't fucking wait for the next, where the 10 is almost assured!
And Bench, I have her number. She lives in you-know-where... (Hint: Her place)

LoveLOS

Guess what I'm getting myself for Christmas? :D

LoveLOS
12-09-07, 14:11
Damn, a lot of my friends here in the Superstar alert network want to congratulate my girl on her preferred status. Remember that it is not official until the second date, so I'll let you know RSN.

Anyway, you guy's sure are being nice to her. That is so sweet. ;)

LL

Benchseats Rock
12-09-07, 14:41
And Bench, I have her number. She lives in you-know-where... (Hint: Her place)

LoveLOS

Guess what I'm getting myself for Christmas? :D


You magnificent bastard.
If you mean what I think you mean then I assume you're telling me that I already have her number also....?

Jim Morrison
12-09-07, 15:28
IHC used to be that way (may still be) and it always concerns me.IHC = 1818.

(Not sure if it's *still* called IHC; I haven't been there in 2-3 years.)

Junky11
12-10-07, 00:47
There was an article in the Post today, Metro section, about the Waffle House on tenth street. It is an historic icon, and they plan to move it to 6th street when they build an eight or ten story office building there. The block across from Ford's Theatre will be razed.

They talked about other businesses impacted, but left out the two on the block that mean so much to us. Does this mean the end of Royal and Happiness? Jeez, Royal has been there forever!

All this gentrification is ruining DC. This has always been a place where a boy could be bad--how else could our politicians survive!

I think Royal is the oldest continuously operating spa in DC. The only competition is IHC, but it only came to light (The Post Sports section, that is) in the mid 1990's. I was told by an ex spa girl that it was a spa for "Chinese Men" before that, so I don't know.

Bad news, anyway.

The end of Royal?!! Perhaps we could start a movement to save it as a historical site.

Jack B Nimble
12-10-07, 09:56
The end of Royal?!! Perhaps we could start a movement to save it as a historical site.


The least we could do is put up a plaque for when they build that new skyscraper. "On this site ..."

Willett
12-10-07, 11:56
Had a pleasure of meeting Ruby last week. Ruby is in her 20s, has a fantastic body - enhanced top (C) and pretty face and great ass. TS was standard and she seemed a little distant at first.

Back to the room, weak massage and changed things around to massage her and enjoy the view of her body/hair. Nice! Then, a little mutual massage and light kissing to get things started. No AR.

Main event was great although she is not GFE and most engaging therapist but her excellent body and pretty face make up for it. Based on her talkative friendly attitude and promise of even better "next" time I will probably do a repeat.

Ruby at Supra
Face: 8
Body: 8
TS: 6
Massagi: 5
Sexo: 7
Overall: 7
Repeat: Yes.

Stay safe!

Willy

Jack B Nimble
12-10-07, 14:16
Tried to post earlier with handheld but didn't work. I was on my way down the stairs at Supra around 1 pm when a local LE was on his way up. He asked where I was coming from, I just said upstairs. He asked if it was 4th floor and I couldn't say no.Asked if I was the one they were calling about, said didn't think so.But he said I should go up with him.

The Mamasan appeared mortified when she answered the door and pretended to not speak English. He asked if I was the one they called about.She shook her head but looked at me oddly -- I can see why she might think I had something to do with the visit. The guy told me to split.

Don't want to blow out of proportion, assume this happens but never good when our uniformed protectors show up. Never know what they might find.

Rejected Monke
12-10-07, 14:36
Tried to post earlier with handheld but didn't work. I was on my way down the stairs at Supra around 1 pm when a local LE was on his way up. He asked where I was coming from, I just said upstairs. He asked if it was 4th floor and I couldn't say no.Asked if I was the one they were calling about, said didn't think so.But he said I should go up with him.

The Mamasan appeared mortified when she answered the door and pretended to not speak English. He asked if I was the one they called about.She shook her head but looked at me oddly -- I can see why she might think I had something to do with the visit. The guy told me to split.

Don't want to blow out of proportion, assume this happens but never good when our uniformed protectors show up. Never know what they might find.

I'm confused, did the mamasan actually summon the LE or did the LE show up announced and BS you about being called?

Jack B Nimble
12-10-07, 14:54
I'm confused, did the mamasan actually summon the LE or did the LE show up announced and BS you about being called?

It's not really clear who called .. the LE guy made it sound like someone called from inside. But looking at Mamasan I doubt this. Obviously someone called so I don't know. But one guy went up the stairs and I think 2 more were coming from sidewalk. Coulda been some nut or rivals, hard to know, but if anyone else has info (it was busy) would be good to know.

Rocket R
12-10-07, 19:14
Susie,Susie,Susie, The girl seems to love her job. Thanks felow mongers for the great advise.

Rocket out!

Readerx
12-10-07, 20:06
Had the pleasure of meeting Nana at 13 today. A super pleasure as I had "known" her from DT in the past. She still has a wonderful smile, caring manner and strives to please. Said she has been "around" for a while, but would not mention exactly where. Nice attention on TS. VERY soft touch. My cup of tea. And multi-positional expertise through the end. She has a nice figure and beautiful top, with pointed headlights.

Face: 8
Body: 8
TS: 7
Massagi (soft!): 8
Sexo: 7
Overall: 8
Repeat: Yes.

Great Mongering,

ReaderX

Ian Dokkaebi
12-10-07, 20:32
It's not really clear who called .. the LE guy made it sound like someone called from inside. But looking at Mamasan I doubt this. Obviously someone called so I don't know. But one guy went up the stairs and I think 2 more were coming from sidewalk. Coulda been some nut or rivals, hard to know, but if anyone else has info (it was busy) would be good to know.
These types of things are among the risks AMPs must deal with. It may be from a disgruntle former employee, unsatisfied customer, or some asshole's sick idea of a joke.

Supra, in particular, has its share of enraged former employees. Apparently the new management team has it down to an art in terms of mistreating its employees. I heard complaints ranging from nasty foods (based on the amount paid for them) to psychotic outbursts by the management staff.

Royal, a couple of months back, had a similar experience. Instead of LE, they were visited by EMS responding to an unsolicited medical emergency.

It may be too absurd to fathom, however, management of competing establishments, I have heard, on occasion make similar calls to LE, especially when the targeted location is flourishing with business. It's a dog eat dog world out there.

In a nutshell, this is a minor set back without long term complications. They are open as usual.

Just for kicks, I see significant resemblance of former divas at this location. Are my eyes deceiving me? PM if you like, especially if you were an active participant within the last five years.

Ian

Rejected Monke
12-10-07, 20:42
It's not really clear who called .. the LE guy made it sound like someone called from inside. But looking at Mamasan I doubt this. Obviously someone called so I don't know. But one guy went up the stairs and I think 2 more were coming from sidewalk. Coulda been some nut or rivals, hard to know, but if anyone else has info (it was busy) would be good to know.

Great. I was starting to enjoy Supra a little bit, too. Time to scratch them off the list until the heat goes down.

Ampfreq
12-10-07, 23:04
Is this all for real? Has anyone been there or called since this afternoon?

I too have been entranced by Ruby. Just the right combination of cute and hot. And Susie is totally hot! I really hope this place is still open. Any real news at all would be appreciated.

Stay especially safe,

af

Pattayadiver
12-10-07, 23:29
Well Gents, I guess I got lucky. I went to Supra and saw Won. She was cute and alot of fun. Excelent shower and short but ok massage. Then on to the main course, a little french then tried all the positions out. She was cute and fun. YMMV. But I enjoyed her.

Sashimi
12-11-07, 09:13
Supra, in particular, has its share of unhappy former employees. Apparently the management team has it down to an art by mistreating some servicing personnel. I have heard many complaints ranging from nasty foods (based on the amount paid) to the many psychotic outbursts by the management staff.


IanI agree on the nasty food. One experience I had there in the past validates your statement. On that accasion I was told to wait in the kitchen with Mamasan until my attendant was ready. Mamasan offered me some type of chips or curls from an opened bag. Open bag should have been my cue. I crunched down on the first curl and it had a rancid taste. I spit it out and found that it was encrusted in little ants or fruit flies. I took the bag from the Mamasan and saw that there were more ants than curls. She chucked the bag in the trash. So in a word if I were to summarize Supra I would have to say Pussy good, food nasty.

Lbridgerunner
12-11-07, 09:25
The holiday party last Tuesday ended with me contracting yellow fever after a few bourbon and waters, so I put on my santa and hat and headed to the red door to spread some holiday cheer. Mamasan and my new elf "Sue" loved the santa hat. TS was good nice small body not firm but deffinately not fat at all. No massage at my request. All play. I will repeat soon. She will be here for 2 more weeks.

Jake Jj 1492
12-11-07, 10:32
Supra, in particular, has its share of unhappy former employees. Apparently the management team has it down to an art by mistreating some servicing personnel. I have heard many complaints ranging from nasty foods (based on the amount paid) to the many psychotic outbursts by the management staff.
I can second this. Management there seems to devalue girls if they get too popular. I could list many that have gone (usually not of their own accord) because they drew too many repeat customers...in their mind taking customers away from the other girls.

Completely backwards in my opinion, but what can we do?

Their troubles yesterday may have come from a competitor, or maybe it was a genuine issue and a girl called on her own fearing that management wouldn't approve. Who knows...but either way, I'm sure it's a short-term thing. Keep posting details guys...or scouting reports.

Ian Dokkaebi
12-11-07, 10:48
Some business led me to former Downtown's area this morning. I passed by the building, and it brought back many fond memories. The only thing that strike me as odd was there were no signs offering the space for lease and the only other business occupying the building is Chinese restaurant. The other four flours are empty.

In a round and about way, this observation lead me to think that there maybe hope in the future of its resurrection. With the imminent closings of Royal and Happiness, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Keep your finger crossed.

Ian

Papasan1
12-11-07, 19:42
LE often visit these businesses asking for donations. It's their way of saying "we can look the other way"

P

Junky11
12-11-07, 22:01
The least we could do is put up a plaque for when they build that new skyscraper. "On this site ..."

... and a bronze statue of a provider making an O shape with her lips.

Jake Jj 1492
12-12-07, 02:12
... and a bronze statue of a provider making an O shape with her lips.

...with the inscription "many entered, many came, but all left with a smile..."

Ian Dokkaebi
12-12-07, 13:51
LE often visit these businesses asking for donations. It's their way of saying "we can look the other way"

PVery true. This aspect differentiated Happiness from Royal in Black Wednesday (at least that's the assumption of many who worked at Happiness during that period). Royal was nabbed and Happiness simply locked its doors and waited for the commotion to be over. If I remember correctly, Happiness was contributing in the thousand every month.

I hardly think LE was soliciting for donation in this instance.

Ian

CabDriver52
12-12-07, 15:24
These types of things are among the risks AMPs must deal with. It may be from a disgruntle former employee, unsatisfied customer, or some asshole's sick idea of a joke.

Supra, in particular, has its share of enraged former employees. Apparently the new management team has it down to an art in terms of mistreating its employees. I heard complaints ranging from nasty foods (based on the amount paid for them) to psychotic outbursts by the management staff.

Royal, a couple of months back, had a similar experience. Instead of LE, they were visited by EMS responding to an unsolicited medical emergency.

It may be too absurd to fathom, however, management of competing establishments, I have heard, on occasion make similar calls to LE, especially when the targeted location is flourishing with business. It's a dog eat dog world out there.

In a nutshell, this is a minor set back without long term complications. They are open as usual.

Just for kicks, I see significant resemblance of former divas at this location. Are my eyes deceiving me? PM if you like, especially if you were an active participant within the last five years.

IanI've been lloking for something new and was considering Supra as a possible vacation spot from the Green Door. Plus Royal is going away. What is up? Ok. Maybe it's off to Charm City for a change. Damn Damn Damn

Cabbie!

Rejected Monke
12-13-07, 00:36
I don't know the details, but Supra is definitely closed.

Is it just coincidence that one year ago, HWC of Virginia was enjoying popularity in terms of number of reports on this board, and newbies started asking for details, and then bam, they get hit by the police.

HWC reopened this year, and along with Yorkshire, was getting a bunch of reports and enjoying popularity on this board, bam, both are hit and gone after some 1-post wonders start asking questions.

Meanwhile in DC, Sun (aka Neverland) has numerous reports over the winter, and suddenly a bunch of faggots pop up asking for its exact location and what services are offered at what rate. Then bam, Sun is gone.

Same thing suddenly happens to Supra.

All this while Gold (who advertises blatantly on Craigslist) and 1818 who have only rare reports, but both have twice as many girls as the average AMP, and thus probably twice as much business, continue chugging along without any problems.

The pattern seems to be when supposed "newbies who need to RTFF" start asking questions, the place gets a visit from LE very soon. I kind of worry about 1818 in this regard, as there have been too many inquiries about them on this board lately.

Coincidence? Or not?

Or it just some sort of perceptual bias like how we all claim busts happen during election year, but if you think about it, elections occur every other year so the chance that the year a bust occured is an election year is about 50%.

Rejected Monke
12-13-07, 00:54
Very true. This aspect differentiated Happiness from Royal in Black Wednesday (at least that's the assumption of many who worked at Happiness during that period). Royal was nabbed and Happiness simply locked its doors and waited for the commotion to be over. If I remember correctly, Happiness was contributing in the thousand every month.


While I have no clue if your gossip about Happiness committing bribery is true or not, the reason Happiness didn't have anything happen to them is because they were never caught talking to taxis over the wiretap. Bribing local cops doesn't protect you from the FBI or ICE.

In fact, the whole reason Black Wednesday happened was because the FBI got involved when they learned that a brothel in New York was bribing a couple of police officers in exchange for protection.

Dire Wolf98
12-13-07, 01:45
I don't know the details, but Supra is definitely closed.

Is it just coincidence that one year ago, HWC of Virginia was enjoying popularity in terms of number of reports on this board, and newbies started asking for details, and then bam, they get hit by the police. (snip)You raise some valid points. However, at a NYC-centric board, there were heated debates as to whether or not posters should provide more details. After much discussion, the consensus reached was that the NYPD, NCPD and SCPD could very well find venues when they wanted to find them.

The consensus opinion also felt that uninformative reports and vague codes weren't helping members and busts still continued. The board concluded that it was better to provide more info than less and to avoid all those codes. That's my two Korean Won.

Dire Wolf98
12-13-07, 01:49
With a business trip to DC in the works, I tried to gather as much info as possible. After conducting relatively extensive research on the DC scene, I arrived filled with anticipation.

On my first night in DC, I went to Supra. I rang the bell, no answer. Rang the bell periodically for another 10 minutes.

Then I walked to 1413. Rang the bell and was immediately admitted. Only one girl available: Angie. She was okay: so-so face; nice natural body, no implants. So-so table shower. Back in the room, the session was okay. Angie likes DATY and likes to get banged hard during doggie. She is worth choosing again.

Two nights later, I return to Supra and again there is no answer. Walk to 1413 again and ask for Angie. The Ahjima says Angie is busy and shows me two girls: Mimi and Nana. I picked Nana.

If this is the same Nana from Supra, I understand all of the raves. Nana is good; and I discovered that Nana speaks Japanese. So, we spent most of the session speaking Japanese to each other as Nana feels more comfortable with Japanese (and Korean) rather than English. It was great; like finding a long-lost friend.

Overall, Nana is fun - enjoys DATY and provides good CBJ. I will definitely ask for Nana next time. Mochiron!

Drama King
12-13-07, 10:52
So I am new to this whole concept. Just started searching and found out how much of a hobby this actually is. I've done my research, but now I come to this question and hope that you more experienced mongers can help. In terms of saftey it seems that CL and SW are low on the scale. I am leaning towards the AMP thing because it seems you get a full experience TS, Massage, etc. where as with other choices it straight to business.

All that being said I see there are a few Movie Stars in town...My choice Kapri is gone, but there are a few more here. So my question...Has anyone taken a chance on a movie star or should I just go the AMP route?

Ian Dokkaebi
12-13-07, 12:34
While I have no clue if your gossip about Happiness committing bribery is true or not, the reason Happiness didn't have anything happen to them is because they were never caught talking to taxis over the wiretap. Bribing local cops doesn't protect you from the FBI or ICE.

In fact, the whole reason Black Wednesday happened was because the FBI got involved when they learned that a brothel in New York was bribing a couple of police officers in exchange for protection.Bribery is a very strong word and would not fit this scenario. Law enforcement organizations differ greatly in operation and mission from law affinity organizations. Bribery implies that the two classes of organization are closely related. They are not.

Those who read the district complaint know this fact. However, an relatively unknown fact is that the Mamasan at Happiness also used Tae Won's facilitation services during the same time period.

Another unknown fact concerns the relative contribution amount between Happiness and Royal. While I didn't write the check, I do know that compared to Royal, Happiness believed strongly in supporting the local law affinity organizations.

Ian Dokkaebi
12-13-07, 12:38
I don't know the details, but Supra is definitely closed.

Is it just coincidence that one year ago, HWC of Virginia was enjoying popularity in terms of number of reports on this board, and newbies started asking for details, and then bam, they get hit by the police.

HWC reopened this year, and along with Yorkshire, was getting a bunch of reports and enjoying popularity on this board, bam, both are hit and gone after some 1-post wonders start asking questions.

Meanwhile in DC, Sun (aka Neverland) has numerous reports over the winter, and suddenly a bunch of faggots pop up asking for its exact location and what services are offered at what rate. Then bam, Sun is gone.

Same thing suddenly happens to Supra.

All this while Gold (who advertises blatantly on Craigslist) and 1818 who have only rare reports, but both have twice as many girls as the average AMP, and thus probably twice as much business, continue chugging along without any problems.

The pattern seems to be when supposed "newbies who need to RTFF" start asking questions, the place gets a visit from LE very soon. I kind of worry about 1818 in this regard, as there have been too many inquiries about them on this board lately.

Coincidence? Or not?

Or it just some sort of perceptual bias like how we all claim busts happen during election year, but if you think about it, elections occur every other year so the chance that the year a bust occured is an election year is about 50%.Here's what I heard about the temporary closing. The servicing personnel was over excited by the incident and decided to disperse. Management attempts to rectify the situation as we debate.

Max Beelyun
12-13-07, 13:12
Is it just coincidence that one year ago, HWC of Virginia was enjoying popularity in terms of number of reports on this board, and newbies started asking for details, and then bam, they get hit by the police.
Probably not a coincidence. I sometimes get PMs about specific girls and/or places, and I always check the posting history before I respond. If the person PM'ing me has more than a few informative posts, I usually give it up. Otherwise, I reply and say to please post some meaningful reports first. Sometimes I get a nastygram in response, usually pretty obvious attempts to goad me into providing information -- I think most of those are cops.

LoveLOS
12-13-07, 13:47
I arrived filled with anticipation.Actually DW, it sounds like you were filled with more than anticipation... Glad you got that worked out. :D Great reporting.

The Supra situation is disturbing, but gents and others posting here, please don't start preaching doom and gloom until we have a bit more information. JMHO.

Ye olde trippe reportte:
I called my latest candidate for a Ms LL to be sure I had the dates right for her vacation from TAWNN. She picked up and she is in NYC. While we had a great conversation, yellow fever was growing. SMWSLT ©. Especially now that I had to work later than expected and had an ETA to DC of 1:30am... Who to call? [edited by author] * of course! He put forth a lead I decided to follow:

Wow!! I would not have guessed a mature (30+) spinner who loves DATY and provides good service works at the AMP described. Based on that information, only because I have cum many times by following his guidance, I reset the GPS to Gold. I rang and asked for [edited by author] Referred to as GoldenGirlSpinner *. I was escorted to my roomlet and GoldenGirlSpinner came in collected the house fee and stayed to collect her tip also. She left and I disrobed. She came back with hot towels. No shower, no massagi? She disrobed. A girl wants to fuck me; who am I to complain? She has a beautiful body and nice c-cups that, if they are enhanced (which I think not), the surgeon is a master. Full and perky, but soft to the touch and tounge. She was on her knees when she figured out I wanted Dinner. That is where she stayed for about 10 minutes, then she rolled over and writhed around another 5 minutes, legs, spread wide and high, before demanding to be fucked. I obliged. Starting in Mish, working her to several "O's" in Doggy, with a mish finish.

GoldenGirlSpinner:
Face: 6
Body: 8
TS: 0
Massagi: 0
Sexo: 8+
Attitude: 7
Overall: 6 with mitigating circumstances.
Repeat: Yes, especially when not rushed due to closing time.

More hot towels and she pointed to the clock. 2:06am Closing time. I finally had to ASK her for my change from the house fee. She said something about her tip, the attempted up sell cost her two attitude points!

Back at my car a cop is writing me a ticket. I ask why. Plates are expired and subject to ticketing when parked in DC. :eek: While that is useful information that deserves a place in these archives, the officer is otherwise an idiot. Yes the year decal says 2007, but the month was 12, and it the guy really was going to write me a ticket, which I would have had to fight or pay, for an infraction for which I was not guilty. Oh well, hopefully they will continue to miss it on those few occasions when I do sort of "bend" the letter of the law.

I was well satisfied, so I drove around some of the suspected places. Nothing on K-L at 2:30am except a large group of people on the sidewalk near 1413. I parked and blended thru the crowd and slipped downstairs without drawing any attention except from the bum reported earlier. I was admitted. I asked for Bebe, but mamasan says "all new girls." D-Wolf, your girl may be gone already. Mamasan sent in Mimi, whose rotation it was for my approval. She is about 5'7", probably 125 lbs, but I must emphasize this girl, while not a spinner, is not overweight in any area. She could be a number grade higher for the right taste. Her tits were enhanced, a nice clean job and not too hard. Her nips were perky and she was responsive to my attentions. I went to move my oral exploration further south, and she has a rule.

That rule always kills it for me. I laid back and she administered her raincoat. She asked me when the last time I had sex was, noting that Little LL's response, while appropriate, was slow in getting up to speed. I lied like a towel on the massage table. I told her truthfully about SWMBO that morning, but I neglected to tell her about GoldenGirlSpinner, just 30 minutes prior. Yes, for those who keep score, that makes today a trifecta of some variety.

She worked nicely, but not really well for a song on the radio, I forget the name. She gained my attention and asked if I was ready. "No, do that some more." I think she would rather I blew a load, but she went back to work.

Finally I motioned for her to climb on. She worked hard and I was enjoying the ride and view. She was getting tired (big girl, remember, does not bounce as well as a tiny little thing). I finally decided doggie would do nicely. She accused me of cumming, and I had to prove it before the re-insert. You can only imagine the grudge fuck attitude LL had at that time. Got'er done. Gentlemen, if you draw this girl, just remember her ass is built for doggy. Beautiful view. In retrospect, that ass is really built for something else, but that is another rule. I asked. :(

Mimi @ 1413:
Face: 7
Body: 8
TS: 8
Massagi: 0
Sexo: 6
Attitude: 6
Overall: 6.
Repeat: No. YMMV.

Yellow fever attack abated. For now.
LoveLOS

* edited information is available by PM to select contributing senior members (The Spinner Alert Network)

Rejected Monke
12-13-07, 17:18
Was in DC and made a call and found it was open again Go figure. Guess it was just a precaution to close a couple of days after Jack B Nimble's incident.

Drew Park
12-13-07, 19:11
Flying back to town on a Florida-Dulles flight was a girl who may have been a spa girl in transit.

20 something Korean, five foot tall spinner, shoulder length hair dyed blonde, fancy make-up with long eyelashes, fancy painted fingernails and toes, Gucci bag (could have been fake), platform heels, low cut tight blouse (amply endowed too!), and those tight black spandex-like pants. Her "engrish" was not very good. Traveling alone.

When the flight attendants were serving drinks I asked for a tomato juice. When asked if I wanted a slice of lemon or lime, I was tempted to loudly say "everything" and watch the girls reaction. But alas she was napping at the time.

Rejected Monke
12-13-07, 20:46
Flying back to town on a Florida-Dulles flight was a girl who may have been a spa girl in transit.

20 something Korean, five foot tall spinner, shoulder length hair dyed blonde, fancy make-up with long eyelashes, fancy painted fingernails and toes, Gucci bag (could have been fake), platform heels, low cut tight blouse (amply endowed too!), and those tight black spandex-like pants. Her "engrish" was not very good. Traveling alone.

When the flight attendants were serving drinks I asked for a tomato juice. When asked if I wanted a slice of lemon or lime, I was tempted to loudly say "everything" and watch the girls reaction. But alas she was napping at the time.

I doubt it. Outside of the work setting, 95% of spa girls don't even wear makeup, nor do they dress scandalously unless they are going clubbing.

Chances are, you just saw a good old-fashioned attention wh0re, who may become a spa worker in the future.

Jake Jj 1492
12-13-07, 22:31
Flying back to town on a Florida-Dulles flight was a girl who may have been a spa girl in transit.

20 something Korean, five foot tall spinner, shoulder length hair dyed blonde, fancy make-up with long eyelashes, fancy painted fingernails and toes, Gucci bag (could have been fake), platform heels, low cut tight blouse (amply endowed too!), and those tight black spandex-like pants. Her "engrish" was not very good. Traveling alone.

When the flight attendants were serving drinks I asked for a tomato juice. When asked if I wanted a slice of lemon or lime, I was tempted to loudly say "everything" and watch the girls reaction. But alas she was napping at the time.Sounds like she's straight out of the Korean Air commercials! Perhaps AMFs are in our future...Asian Massage Flights!

Dire Wolf98
12-13-07, 23:01
Flying back to town on a Florida-Dulles flight was a girl who may have been a spa girl in transit.

20 something Korean, five foot tall spinner, shoulder length hair dyed blonde, fancy make-up with long eyelashes, fancy painted fingernails and toes, Gucci bag (could have been fake), platform heels, low cut tight blouse (amply endowed too!), and those tight black spandex-like pants. Her "engrish" was not very good. Traveling alone. (snip)The Kogal style started in Tokyo and spread throughout Asian. Many Japanese and Asian girls still follow this general trend - that doesn't mean they are working girls. Some working girls happen to also like this trend; others adhere to it because it's appealing to a certain percentage of customers.

Junky11
12-13-07, 23:10
Actually DW, it sounds like you were filled with more than anticipation... Glad you got that worked out. :D Great reporting.

The Supra situation is disturbing, but gents and others posting here, please don't start preaching doom and gloom until we have a bit more information. JMHO.
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Yellow fever attack abated. For now.
LoveLOS

* edited information is available by PM to select contributing senior members (The Spinner Alert Network)


DC is one of the few places where you can dispute a ticket by mail. You might want to look at that.

Dire Wolf98
12-13-07, 23:12
(snip) In fact, the whole reason Black Wednesday happened was because the FBI got involved when they learned that a brothel in New York was bribing a couple of police officers in exchange for protection.With all due respect, bribery is fairly rampant on the NYPD, especially when it comes to venues paying protection money. I would find hard to believe that a single situation would set-off the FBI. Now, when members of the NYPD perform contract killings for the mafia -- they gets the attention of the FBI.

LoveLOS
12-14-07, 00:01
Perhaps AMFs are in our future...Asian Massage Flights!

Let's see. 12 hour flight. Takeoff and Landing - remain seated.

That should leave about 10 hours for eating, massages and sex. Worst problem would be the cost. The airplane could not hold as many massage cubicles as seats, so fewer passengers, plus you need a qualified flight attendant for each passenger.

It would really be cool if the upper deck of the 747 was like a pickup bar so you could fuck about six different stewardesses on the flight over to Korea. I wonder if they would stock the plane with Thai girls for the leg over to Bangkok.

"Everything Airlines" you heard it first here.

LoveLOS

BTW - good to know Jky. As it turns out, he tore the thing up and walked away without a word. LOL

Propilot
12-14-07, 19:44
I have been to amp's before but I have never been to a non traditional amp
in the DC area. I would love to try H&H but after RTFF, there is still very little infomation about them. They fly really low under the radar. Are their rates the same as regular amps? Do you tip before or after the service? Also what is the tank? I do not mind TOFTT but I like to be properly informed and ready. I hear that H&H girls are very suspicious of you if you do not say or do the right things. You can respond here or by PM if you want. Thanks.


Propilot-over and out.

LoveLOS
12-14-07, 23:03
I would love to try H&H but after RTFF, there is still very little infomation about them.
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You can respond here or by PM if you want. Thanks.Prop is right. There is very little out there about this place. Can any veterans care to fill in the missing pieces, or quantify the info into a single post for this "unique" operation.

I think on the forum would be appropriate, we aren't disclosing anything illegal here. ;)

Thanks
LL

Dairyman
12-15-07, 09:07
Prop is right. There is very little out there about this place. Can any veterans care to fill in the missing pieces, or quantify the info into a single post for this "unique" operation.

I think on the forum would be appropriate, we aren't disclosing anything illegal here. ;)

Thanks
LL

It has been a while (a year?)since I was at H&H in a dream and it was just once so my memory is a little vague but here it goes.

I think it was $80 at the door and about $140 tip for FS as I remember. After picking the girl (mostly hispanic--good looking and white--not so good looking) you go back and shower yourself in a stand up shower. Go to the massage table, negotiate and then partake. After finishing you can shower yourself again. I did see some old flotation tanks but was never offered.

It is fine and I think I went after Black Wednesday and I was in the neighborhood.

Good luck.

Philkrenshaw
12-15-07, 18:31
Was in town and visited Supra last Sunday. Rang the bell and the door cracks open an inch, then the mamasan lets me in and immediatly into a room and asks for the house fee. I gave it to her without counting it and asked if Suzie was there, hoping to avoid "Have you been here before" kind of questions. She said yes and left and a few minutes later a girl cracks the door an inch, looks around, then comes in. We eventually leave for a shower and same thing--cracks the door an inch and looks out before we leave the room. Don't know why all the peeking. I never saw anyone else (girl or customer) the whole time I was there.

Had the shower, then back to the room for very light massage and vanilla suck and fuck. No attention paid at any time to asshole, no offer at any time to let me fool with any of her parts (and I didn't push it, since I'd rather have the girl be comfortable about what she's doing). Don't know if I actually got Suzie. She was petite, cute, tight body, long hair, nice rack. From descriptions below it could as easily have been Ruby. I didn't ask, since I was pretending I'd been there before.

Went back on Tuesday and no response to ringing the bell. Reading the recent reports I now see why.

Thanks to everybody for the info, directions, descriptions. You guys are lucky to have this kind of stuff in town. Will check here again if I ever get back to DC.

Ampfreq
12-16-07, 00:01
Visited the 4th floor today and was greeted by someone other than the one-toothed gnome for a change. Glad to say they are up and running and seemed busy for early Sat. afternoon. My dreamdate, let's call her Yumi, seemed young and fairly new to the business. She had a beautiful body, long and tall. Not into much DATY but was fairly excited as far as I could tell.

Everything was pretty much normal. Would probably repeat.

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Toshiosamma
12-16-07, 18:26
Don't know why all the peeking. I never saw anyone else (girl or customer) the whole time I was there.You are not supposed to see any other customers, and any other customers on the premises are not supposed to see you. The peeking keeps it that way. As for Mamasan peeking before letting you in, that's not hard to figure out. Its standard practice.

Asianguydc
12-16-07, 21:20
Any good AMP's in Suburban Maryland.- Gaithersburg, Rockville, Bethesda, Silver Spring areas? The places I used to go 4-5 years ago are all gone. Also, what are the going rates?

And Rich
12-16-07, 22:11
Went to 4th floor today and had this new girl from Cali.

Name is Sasha and was great.

Rejected Monke
12-17-07, 01:28
Any good AMP's in Suburban Maryland.- Gaithersburg, Rockville, Bethesda, Silver Spring areas? The places I used to go 4-5 years ago are all gone. Also, what are the going rates?

FYI, the Montgomery County Police has the most active vice unit out of DC and all surrounding counties. :)

Eerock
12-17-07, 12:28
Having gone there since shortly after it opened at its original location down the street around 1990, I get the impression that the owner, a Turkish woman, really did open it as a relatively legitimate business: Flotation tank, sauna (not at present location), whirlpool, massage by attendants in white coats, and if the ending was a happy one, well, what's the harm in that. The thing is, guys want more than that, and some of the hirees liked the bigger tips, so providing that, and bringing your own party hat, became advisable. My guess is that she eventually she threw up her hands and gave up the white coats, and really doesn't want to know what goes on in the rooms. And the extent of what goes on is up to the attendant. It's a YMMV place, and the looks will vary as well. It's the way she runs her business, and I imagine always will; if she had a full roster of lookers and performers her establishment would assume too high a profile for that locale. But she definitely knows who is popular, and if she gets to know you and likes you, she will steer the quality in your direction. As far as cost, roughly equivalent to an AMP, though the attendants may try to get a little more out of you.

Feel free to PM me if you are a fairly established poster here. I don't go often so I can't opine on current relative quality.


Prop is right. There is very little out there about this place. Can any veterans care to fill in the missing pieces, or quantify the info into a single post for this "unique" operation.

I think on the forum would be appropriate, we aren't disclosing anything illegal here. ;)

Thanks
LL

Junky11
12-18-07, 16:52
You are not supposed to see any other customers, and any other customers on the premises are not supposed to see you. The peeking keeps it that way. As for Mamasan peeking before letting you in, that's not hard to figure out. Its standard practice.

When it comes to the level of service and AMP etiquette, Royal is tops. They do everything right.

I'm off to some place well south of the border for some serious fun. (I can't afford to go to a DC AMP 3 to 4 times a day). Later.

Sleeping Bag
12-18-07, 17:17
Went to K St. Got hooked up with Mimi. Late 20's with a smoking hot body. But that's about where it stops. Bath was average. Afterwards, no massage. She says she hates to give massage. So I agreed to go straight for the deed. I paid the full hour timeframe. But she whines that she can't screw for the entire hour. From the first minute on, she's rushing me about the need to get to the next customer for more $. Very disappointing. To make it worse, even mamasan knocks on the door at only 15 minutes of what I had paid for to indicate the time was up. WTF was that!?

Avoid at all cost. Not worth it.

Tipster2
12-19-07, 16:03
H&H is highly unpredictable if you are looking for anything other than a HJ. It is a legit spa but the floatation tank has been out of commission for about three months. Owner says she is trying to get a replacement tank shipped in from Pennsylvania. The floatation tank (when it works) is unique for this area. The hot tub is as good as any private one I have soaked in and is surrounded by mirrors.

This is a great place in any event. For the past few years, there have been three or four love doves (not code-- these are real white birds) in a cage in the front room that give a constant chirp. My favorite room is the "Presidential Suite" which has a stand up shower built into the room. Each room has a sink, mirror and sterilized comb. Bring your own cover if you want more than a happy ending.

Appointment is recommended. Usually open until midnight but owner discourages walk-ins or appointments after 10pm. On a slow night, I have spent 3 hours there for the. 80 entrance fee (including 1. 5 hours in the floatation tank). Definitely not a rush job once the owner gets to know you.

Girls over time have been from all over the world-- Virginia, Brazil, FSU, Ukraine, Poland (a knock out blond), Argentina, Spain-- but mainly Virginia. Ages vary widely. Most are in massage school, have graduated from massage school or express an intent to attend massage school. Unless you put a tip under your watch on the sink, it is usually a hot tub followed by massage followed by a friendly exit. Any thing extra, do not tell the owner. She doesn't want to know and the girl will be gone fired after you leave if you blab. You'll have no less than an hour in the massage room (in addition to your time in the floatation tank and/or hot tub) and then the owner will slip an envelope under the door signaling time up.

Fabulous place to relax.

Ampman44
12-20-07, 10:21
Guys, I'm visiting DC and wonder what the best place is if you just want good TS, massage, and HJ but no full service. I've RTFF but the focus is on the FS I do not want. Thanks.

Baltimonger
12-20-07, 13:19
FYI, the Montgomery County Police has the most active vice unit out of DC and all surrounding counties. :)Just do a Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp) of MD court records. Enter the last name "Stack" and the first name "T", then search Montgomery County and you will come up quite an extensive list of prostitution busts made by Det. Thomas Stack in Monkey County.

Corsair88
12-21-07, 00:45
Went to supra and met judy. Nice body, ok face, funny, eager to please, pointed tail bone, a lot of bush, but somehow I felt like she's in a rush. Standard fare but the massage wasn't really good. Also not GFE. I won't repeat, but as always YMMV.

Dudeman-12
12-21-07, 10:05
I finally made a trip into DC after almost a year and was not disappointed. Went to the Super place and had a pleasant experience. Looks like there are ladies from Pennsylvania and Los Angeles trying to earn some college tuition. Cookie gave me a decent shower and Sha Sha helped with the other details. Overall a very enjoyable afternoon. Cookie had to leave to serve another customer so Sha Sha filled in quite well.

Max Beelyun
12-21-07, 10:08
Went to K street looking for Nana. "She on vacation." Arrrgh, not again! Anyone know where she is now?

Anyway, the mamasan tells me she has three nice pretty girls. I asked for their names and she just called them all out for a line-up. Man, I hate doing that. I don't think they care much for it either.

I picked Sarah because she was wearing green and her smile seemed most genuine. Very good choice. Sarah is very skinny, medium height (not a spinner), nice little natural B cups. She says this was her first day, just down from NY. Her English is quite good, she says she's been in the US for 15 years.

Off to the TS. Sweet. Good attention to the right places. I responded and I don't usually, not in the TS. She giggled and asked if I was happy. Obviously.

Very nice massage. Slow, strong and sensual. Her hands are wonderful. After a while she asked if I wanted everything, of course I said yes. She disappeared for a while, then came back.

I had rolled over in the meantime, but when she came back she says "Who said you could turn over?" I rolled back over to my stomach and she proceeded to rub up against me. All very sensual and unrushed. She was making me insane.

Finally I flipped. More rubbing and kissing, finally some nice language lessons. Went on to some mish where she was most enthusiastic. The more I pounded the more she seemed to like it. She's very verbal. Went on for a while but my arms were getting tired so we switched to doggie. She was still very enthusiastic. I could tell she was getting a little tired, and I was going crazy because the condom was keeping me from finishing, so I asked for manual assistance. Actually a good choice -- like I said, her hands are wonderful. She took her time and I had a very explosive finish. Wow.

She left to get a hot towel. The clean up was just as nice, slow, and sensual as everything else. Would definitely go back, obviously. But I'd still like to know if Nana is around somewhere.

Brdcsttech
12-21-07, 15:15
Guys, I'm visiting DC and wonder what the best place is if you just want good TS, massage, and HJ but no full service. I've RTFF but the focus is on the FS I do not want. Thanks.Well you could visit an AMP in Fairfax County, VA. All you will get is a HJ. If all you want is a HJ in DC simply state that up front. I can't imagine they would turn you away. Leave .4 out in the open too.

Ginger Man
12-21-07, 15:46
Nana is on M Street, second floor. She misses you, Max.

BigTime3
12-21-07, 22:54
My Christmas present arrived Thursday night in the form of a two girl conquest. My first stop was to see Suzie, but when I arrived, mamasan said Suzie and ruby on vacation (gone), we have good girls. So I asked for the line up, Sasha and Anna busy, Cookie, Judy, and Gina (I think –that was here name, you would think that since that is the one I picked I would have at least remembered her name). Cookie and Judy were both ok, but Gina had a great tan, a few more curves, and brown hair, defiantly the hottest of the three imo (did not see the first two). Since the shower was busy, we got to pet a little and I checked out her tattoo around here waist, it was ok, I am not a tattoo lover, but I looked good. I did not go all the way around (only on the front), she said she is going back to finish it.

Shower was good, cleaning and massaging both done adequately. Back to the room where the massage was really good and included a walk on the back. I noticed she did have a nice ass when it was my time to give her a massage (more on that later). When I flipped her, I had a little DATY. After she finished enjoying that, I knelt up for the CBJ. I was not that long (nor did it need to be since I was good to go) and we went right into mish. Then a little standing mish (had to adjust the floor mirror for a nice view). Then I flipped her to a dog (and had the intention of my usual cow finish), but her ass was really great looking (and I able to see my tool playing peek a boo in her box), I could not resist and finished here. Was not disappointed I could not make it to the cow, I felt and looked real good. She cleaned me up and we talked a little. She has been here about a year and did a tour in NYC. The door bell was ringing a lot (had to hid in the bathroom on the way out so another one could take my room) and I explained to her that it was probably the last chance for a lot of customers until after the New Year. I would repeat, but she is not as good as Suzie or ruby.

After leaving, I still felt I had more, so I wandered down to Green and asked for old Michelle (with the little white dog), but mamasan said she was on vacation too and the wait would be about 10-15 min. I must have been a busy night at the DC AMPs.

Next, I found myself at Royal, since I had not been there in a few months. (I had to stop at every bar on the way there for a refreshment too.). Mamasan recognized me and asked why I had not been by, I told her to get Linda back and I would be there every week (she laughed). I asked for the line up, but only got nana. Not real great, but she did do the trick. Only noteworthy thing is she tried to get 120 from me, I told her I don’t think so (always a bad scene when you have to haggle). She was nothing spectacular (but I did get my money worth out of her – “for long time”).

Later,

BT

LoveLOS
12-22-07, 00:53
Guys, I'm visiting DC and wonder what the best place is if you just want good TS, massage, and HJ but no full service. I've RTFF but the focus is on the FS I do not want. Thanks.
You read the fucking forum! That is incredible. That means you already knew that a person in search of dependable happy endings might consider H&H. I mean, we have two reports of that nature on this page, right?

I don't understand. You RTFF. And the question you asked is answered twice the day before you asked. So why was it that you asked the question again? Just confused. sorry.

LL

Member #4338
12-22-07, 10:35
Went south of the border...down Rio way...and discovered that the former Coco at Sun has resurfaced as Nana. Standard session.

Upon arrival all girls were busy so I got to spend some time with Mamasan Paula. She is one classy woman!

Lax

Dairyman
12-22-07, 16:58
Went south of the border...down Rio way...and discovered that the former Coco at Sun has resurfaced as Nana. Standard session.

Upon arrival all girls were busy so I got to spend you time with Mamasan Paula. She is one classy woman!

Lax
I went to Rio for the first time yesterday and all the girls were busy for at least another 40 minutes....my bad for an amateur mistake going on a friday afternoon!

I asked if mamasan could give me a quick session and she laughed. Maybe next week.

Dairyman
12-22-07, 16:59
You read the fucking forum! That is incredible. That means you already knew that a person in search of dependable happy endings might consider H&H. I mean, we have two reports of that nature on this page, right?

I don't understand. You RTFF. And the question you asked is answered twice the day before you asked. So why was it that you asked the question again? Just confused. sorry.

LL


Not only do you have the best reports you straighten out the newbies.

LoveLOS
12-23-07, 01:56
Lax, Lemme guess... "Nana Number One..."

Kinda surprised me you actually posted that tidbit. I think I will avoid Rio for a week or two, at least until everyone has a go at her. Not too hard for me to be cool, reserved and nonchalant about Nana--I have a little 5'4" ace in the hole. (Well, to be more accurate--I've had ace in her hole, and everybody involved liked it -- a LOT!)

Milkman - Thanks for the kind words {Shucks}

I just keep wondering when and where, but I swear I have had a session with mamasan Paula sometime in my sordid past...

LL

Member #2652
12-23-07, 02:53
Went south of the border...down Rio way...and discovered that the former Coco at Sun has resurfaced as Nana. Standard session.

Upon arrival all girls were busy so I got to spend some time with Mamasan Paula. She is one classy woman!

LaxLaxman,

As a beneficiary of Coco's wonderful services at Sun in the past. I have to ask, does she still do the human scrub brush. Of my many years hitting the AMPS she was one of the best I ever had. Even gave me a manicure and pedicure after all was done.

Member #4338
12-23-07, 08:42
Lax, Lemme guess... "Nana Number One..."

Kinda surprised me you actually posted that tidbit. I think I will avoid Rio for a week or two, at least until everyone has a go at her. Not too hard for me to be cool, reserved and nonchalant about Nana--I have a little 5'4" ace in the hole. (Well, to be more accurate--I've had ace in her hole, and everybody involved liked it -- a LOT!)

This was purely a diversionary tactic as I have stumbled on to something else that is the object of my attention. Thanks have been sent to the appropriate parties via PM.

Peace and love,

Lax

LoveLOS
12-23-07, 15:28
This was purely a diversionary tactic as I have stumbled on to something else that is the object of my attention. Thanks have been sent to the appropriate parties via PM.You too, huh? Coco was a good girl, but not a top 20 girl for me. I am still getting PMs about my girl. I guess I am not feeling like sharing just yet, especially with all this hot new talent around, you guys can find some good squeeze while I get to know my girl in a more personal way. I'll let you know when I am tired of her--don't be holding your corporate breath, I like her a lot!

Any of you guys that have had experience with K-girls on a Friends-with-Benefits basis, please feel free to post or PM your observations Re: their expectations, protocol I may be missing as a non Korean! I have a S.O. and she knows it, so a formal relationship is NOT what this is about. Before any of you start jumping up and down whining about this being off topic, I am asking this because it is all about getting more sex for (hopefully) less cash and better experience with the girl. If any readers think that is a waste of bandwidth, then perhaps they don't understand the concept of finding women for sex.

State of the AMPs: A new crop has been installed at 14K, Supra, Rio and Gold (if the reports here are any more than the ravings of delusional hand job victims)... There seems to be at least one or two good lookers / spinners out there at most of the places. There are entirely too many girls named Nana. Royal, although seemingly having received a death sentence, appears to still be working out some kinks in the interim. Evidence suggests (e.g. reports and PMs I don't care to elaborate about) that some of the fringe AMPs are apparently hiding some private stock keepers (YMMV), so you gotta go out there and find them.

CU soon,
LL

Dire Wolf98
12-23-07, 16:12
Dropped by 1413 a couple of nights ago. As I am becoming a familiar face, the Ahjima* is happy to see me. I ask who's available, she says Angie and Mimi.

Now I remembered LL's report about Mimi and her "rule" about DATY. That's a huge negative in my book. I met Angie before and decided to go that route. Angie had a great attitude in our first session and she was very happy to see me again. As a result, this session was nice, unrushed and lovey-dovey. As an added bonus, I discovered that Angie speaks Japanese as a third language -- not as good as Nana, but good enough to whisper sweet things in her ear.

I'll repeat with Angie. Given the negativity expressed about Mimi, I may avoid her, despite her appealing height.

*Please Note: Koreans don't use the term "mama-san," their term is Ahjima. Under certain circumstances, the use of "mama-san" could tick them off. You'll often hear the girls call to the Ahjima saying, "Ohnii." That means, "older sister." In Korea, you'll often hear girls calling to their customers, "Ohpa! Ohpa!" That means "older brother."

Jake Jj 1492
12-23-07, 17:14
As an added bonus, I discovered that Angie speaks Japanese as a third language -- not as good as Nana, but good enough to whisper sweet things in her ear.
Only three languages...you mean she doesn't speak french as well? What a disappointment!

JK...Happy Holidays everybody...
JJJ

P.S. - Have never had a problem with calling an Ahjima "mamasan", but, man, don't make the mistake of saying something in Korean to a Japanese girl...ouch! Of course, it gives you something to talk about and can make for a much more vigorous session. YMMV on this one...

Readerx
12-23-07, 21:49
Hi All,

Followed in DW98's tracks at 13 today, between rain squalls, and had a nice Angie visit. Though she says she has not been to DC before a couple of weeks ago, she sure looked and felt familiar. Of course Angie is as popular a name as Nana! Had a nice time, though no back door at all. Maybe next time.

She was a bit rushed, but the ending was very active and completing. Will return.

Merry Christmas to all Mongers and a Great 2008.

RX

Dire Wolf98
12-24-07, 00:21
(snip) . . . don't make the mistake of saying something in Korean to a Japanese girl...ouch! Of course, it gives you something to talk about and can make for a much more vigorous session. YMMV on this one...Mochiron! Of course! :) Still, one could start a fight in the wrong place at the wrong time by speaking Japanese to a Korean. I once got a very bad reaction from a K-Girl in 588 (oh-pal-pal) in Seoul. Thought she was going to take a swing at me. Long story.

Happy Holidays!

Lovejugs
12-24-07, 12:48
After having a slightly disappointing time at Supra we decided back in late August to give another go on a mission. We parked the car and went on a little walk. Scorpio's directions to the place left a little to be desired. After walking up and down an alley looking like retards(there was a construction crew that happened to be working and was probably wondering why these two guys kept going up and down the alley 4 times) and two phone calls we or should I say I found it. Being a loop vet I was pretty sure where the alley was and we weren't in it. Finally we arrived at the "Christmas tree" door. At first we thought they were spooked and were turning us away. We were told they were busy and to come back 45 minutes later. We checked out another place on K but it was hot(no AC) and the only one talent was available at that time. So it was decided to hit a local titty joint and Archy's was the place. Had a nice lunch while checking out the ladies DC had to offer. They didn't disappoint even for a daytime shift. So full of some good food and brews we headed back to the destination. Was let in and greeted by two fine spinners. Mine was a mid to late twenties sexy momma named K. Nice handful firm breasts and even a little back(not big just a little roundness). I tend to go for thick WSW's that have ALOT of meat and jiggle, but Scorpio has been exposing me to the wonders of the orient. After a pleasant table shower, was followed by a nice dry massage. I literally almost fell asleep. K was very sexy and was dragging her hard nipples up and down my body. I started to feel warm in the nether regions. She started to suck and lick my neck moaning loudly in my ear. American women could learn alot from these cuties that know how to treat a man. Of course I wanted everything and started with an amazing CBJ. I like it to be hard and rough and she definitely knew my style by coincidence. She was jamming it hard against the back of her throat with nice lip pressure. I didn't clear the pipes before the session and was really trying to hold back. Yes I forgot to flog the dolphin. But last time at Supra I did clear the pipes and had the opposite reaction. I almost couldn't finish. So I was trying a new angle this time. How was I to know K would turn me on so much? I was really worked up. Not a bad thing really. So I was holding back, at least for a little while. She was driving me crazy at her hunger for pleasing. I told her hop on top like a cowgirl, which she did without hesitation. She began riding the horse like a true veteran cowgirl. Very wet and tight. I have been with some DSW's that have obviously had a few kids. Loosey goosey. Definitely a nice change. She began to dangle her nipples in my mouth. Felt like a newborn. I reached back and grabbed ahold of her fine, firm hind quarters which was responsed to with moaning. She really seemed to like having it squeezed and massaged. I began to grab and jam it down hard. She didn't mind one bit being manhandled. A real pro. I was so turned on at her attitude that I began to feel that familar feeling of the point of no return. I grabbed her even harder and took it home. A Mount St. Helens' eruption was out of control and I was wondering when it would stop. Hadn't had one like that in a long time. She left me inside for a good 30 seconds(slowly,gently grinding) letting me come down from cloud 9. Fully satisfied and drained. Felt like I had run a marathon. I would definitely recommend K if she is still around. Christmas tree definitely made up for the disappointing time I had at Supra. Til next time...

Bbbss
12-24-07, 15:33
Dropped by 1413 a couple of nights ago. As I am becoming a familiar face, the Ahjima* is happy to see me. I ask who's available, she says Angie and Mimi.

Now I remembered LL's report about Mimi and her "rule" about DATY. That's a huge negative in my book. I met Angie before and decided to go that route. Angie had a great attitude in our first session and she was very happy to see me again. As a result, this session was nice, unrushed and lovey-dovey. As an added bonus, I discovered that Angie speaks Japanese as a third language -- not as good as Nana, but good enough to whisper sweet things in her ear.

I'll repeat with Angie. Given the negativity expressed about Mimi, I may avoid her, despite her appealing height.

*Please Note: Koreans don't use the term "mama-san," their term is Ahjima. Under certain circumstances, the use of "mama-san" could tick them off. You'll often hear the girls call to the Ahjima saying, "Ohnii." That means, "older sister." In Korea, you'll often hear girls calling to their customers, "Ohpa! Ohpa!" That means "older brother."Mamasan is a generic term that Westerners use to refer to older Asian women.

No matter what race they are.

While Romanized spelling of Korean words is always a pain in the ass.Good job.

Never mind if you are female or male.The younger or older sibling.A stranger or an intimate friend with the person you are speaking to.In public or private.

The list goes on.

Probably the hardest langauge to learn in all the differant contexts that is expressed.IMHO.

Anyway.To keep this post relevant to the site.And not have it deleted by "The Administration".

Some helpful info.

"Modun Kot".Everything.

'Tallo'. Dollars.

$100.00

They already know.Or they just count how many $20.00 bills.

LoveLOS
12-24-07, 17:41
DW-
Good reading. I got to 1413 late on Wednesday and couldn't remember Mimi's name. Ahjima (thanks for the korean language tip DW) greeted me and I asked for a small one, not the tall one! I drew Angie. I was expecting a rather average session, especially after an average TS. We got in the room and she inquired if I would rather start with massagi or boom boom. I chose desert first.

A flirtatious flick of my tounge and she was on her back with her legs over her head. My kind of girl...

The rest sounds like a lot of other LoveLOS posts--lots of DATY, multiple female O's and a wonderful finish. I think I chose Mish, Cowgirl and a Doggy finish. I just know it was good.

Angie:
Face: 7
Body: 8
TS: 6
Massagi: 6
Sexo: 8
Repeat: Recommended repeat, but may prove difficult with a MsLL in town.

LL

LoveLOS
12-24-07, 17:57
I have noted in my own thoughts, in private conversation with you guys here, in conversation with guys I go AMPing with... There are at least three "younger" Ahjima at the local establishments that many of us would love to take for a session.

Now what gets me is that if they sent us an attractive 45-50 year old woman as a masseuse in a DC AMP--most of us would bolt. At the same time, initials like LL, BB, JJJ, Lax and XS have all expressed the opinion that these women are very classy and should be a blast in the sack. That many whorehounds of that level cannot be wrong, IMHBAO.

Any opinions? or better yet - stories / tips?

LoveLOS

Jake - It was a fucking blast, my friend. Ahjima's eyes, when she saw us together, was a MasterCard moment!

Bbbss
12-24-07, 20:55
I have noted in my own thoughts, in private conversation with you guys here, in conversation with guys I go AMPing with... There are at least three "younger" Ahjima at the local establishments that many of us would love to take for a session.Popped my cherry.So to speak at AMP's in CT.

But got my original lesson in Hangul at 1818.

They still have the dusty treadmill in the foyer?

Always thought that was funny.

Many a night and day spent there hanging out and learning the customs.

Lots of pretty ladies.A couple of not so pretty ones.

Neither the front desk 'Mama' or the other one was hot.Both very nice but not hot.Looked 45 so probably 55 or 60.

Jake Jj 1492
12-24-07, 22:14
Christmas tree definitely made up for the disappointing time I had at Supra.Great second report LoveJugs! Whoda thunk that you'd find joy hiding behind a Christmas Tree? Sounds like you got an early present...



Jake - It was a fucking blast, my friend. Ahjima's eyes, when she saw us together, was a MasterCard moment!
Just to clarify for the fellow pervs...we arrived together. And LoveLos, if all you noticed were her eyes, then first, you were obviously focused on the prize...and second, I guess it's a good thing you didn't see where her hand went... ;-) Until next time!

Have a Merry F'n Christmas everybody. And no, this is not code for a hottie named Mary working at one of our fine establishments on December 25th...or is it? Hmmmm...

PussProwler
12-24-07, 23:01
PP decided to give himself an early present on Saturday. With all the positive talk about the place I've never visited, I decided it was worth a try.

I went to the red door about 4pm. I was greeted by the manager, and assured of a pretty girl. I told her I'd seen Coco before, and she looked a bit dismayed but again promised me a pretty girl. I thanked her in advance.

She sent me Sue. She had very nice hair, and attractive enhancements, but her face looked very angular and plain. Sue's a nice petite model which suits PP just fine. We exchanged presidential protraits and onto the TS we went. TS included a very thorough and deep scrub. I went to warm up in the sauna for a minute then it was off to the races.

Back in the room a fairly good massagi was received. Upon the flip there was a good covered pole and tongue joust, with plenty of ball play, but no AR was on Sue's menu. She got on all fours expecting to get plowed right away, but I suprised her going in for a late lunch. I dined in all areas of Seoul until I made some bi bim bap. After I went in for a second helping I received some gratitude from my waitress in the form of a sweet little yogart treat.

The rest was pretty trivial except I must mention that Sue has a very nice set of enhanced c's. This in itself in nothing spectacular, but her nips are not to be missed. I would characterize them as a nice red pair of jellybeans. I'm not talking about little jellybellies either. These are the old fashioned sized jelly beans, just a bit under the size of nice juicy red grapes. Absolutely wonderful rack to enjoy on the ride.

Long time no funds for PP. Wish I had more funds to enjoy in DC, but I've been keeping on budget prowling the pussy supermarket half hour to the north.

Merry Christmas...HO HO HO!

PussProwler

Rejected Monke
12-25-07, 07:20
Now what gets me is that if they sent us an attractive 45-50 year old woman as a masseuse in a DC AMP--most of us would bolt. At the same time, initials like LL, BB, JJJ, Lax and XS have all expressed the opinion that these women are very classy and should be a blast in the sack. That many whorehounds of that level cannot be wrong, IMHBAO.

Any opinions? or better yet - stories / tips?

LoveLOS


How do you guys know you guys haven't already? :)

Coco/Nana of Rio and Sun is 50.

Jake Jj 1492
12-25-07, 10:02
How do you guys know you guys haven't already? :)

Coco/Nana of Rio and Sun is 50.
These lovely ladies age so well...most of them anyway.

You may be right about Coco/Nana...but she sure beats the 70+ year olds of M Street Spa!

It makes my skin crawl just thinking about it...of course some of you granny-grinders out there would probably be happy as a pig in shit. If you're lucky, they might even still be able to get around without a walker.

Drunk Irish
12-26-07, 21:35
Young's

Very busy today, went with Yuri again. Cute face, but body looks like it just popped one out of the oven six or seven months ago. Fairly young looking, but slightly saggy fun bags and a bit of a paunch in the tummy.

That being said, very open to a lot of things, takes her time. No real massage, but a nice tongue and finger job.

Shower was good, washed all the right places thoroughly.

I would say a GF experience.

Must have been a lot of mongers out as mama-san was turning away people left and right.

One thing I have to say is I've never had a problem finding parking there incredibly enough.

Face +6
Body 5 1/2
TS Average
Overall +7

CabDriver52
12-27-07, 00:55
Well. Methinks some folks are on vacation.

Bad case of yellow fever. Needed something new. Decided on the Royal.

Woah Nelly. Big issue.

I show at 10: 45. The place is empty. I mean deserted. Quiet. Dead. I should have left. But decided to stick around. My mistake.

I hate to club the ONLY girl that was there (Nana) but WTF was my issue. Apparently she was ALONE. Regular shower, good and hot. Back to the room. She sticks her hoohoo on my face. It' s ok. Then the door bell rings. Adios to the clam.

What seems like forever later. She returns, back to working the man. Then she flips over, rather quick, and we decide to go missionary. Like a mine shaft but she has so guns so it's cool. Flip her over to hit it doggy. Finally bust and she leaves. Back with hot towel and I'm out in 20 min. WTF?

No more Royal for this Dog. Tavern on the green will stick for a while. (AKA GHS)

PM for more detail. However overall I can't fault Nana if she was alone. I left OK. Just a little shy of the 60 min I paid for. , .

Anyway. Cold night. Get some sleep

Cabbie!

Big Ocean
12-27-07, 11:54
CPHC was the best AMP ever. Does anyone know whatever happened to Park and if a new place with just as many excellent girls will rise from the ashes? Also, there's supposed to be some new titty bar/MP combo opening up in PG.

Can anyone help a fellow traveler out?

Thanks

Jake Jj 1492
12-27-07, 20:00
CPHC was the best AMP ever. Does anyone know whatever happened to Park and if a new place with just as many excellent girls will rise from the ashes? Also, there's supposed to be some new titty bar/MP combo opening up in PG.

Can anyone help a fellow traveler out?

Thanks
Wish I knew...but, I think the seniors would love the answers to your questions too. The place in PG sounds like an interesting change...

Aman Tuleev
12-27-07, 23:40
I read that ad on citypaper :


PARKWAY THERAPY: 5505 Landover Rd, Hyattsville, MD 20784. Relieve your stress and relax your body. Asian staff.

Is it good place? Any info will be very appreciated. Thanks.

Be Safe,
Aman

Corsair88
12-28-07, 01:01
I read that ad on citypaper :

Is it good place? Any info will be very appreciated. Thanks.

Be Safe,

AmanPT is in the MD thread, see its reviews there.

Hobbyist4Life
12-28-07, 01:22
Hello all,

It's been some time, since I been on the board.
One of the girl that I know from a DC spa called and asked me
if I heard of a place called YOUNG'S SPA getting raided today?
Has anyone heard or seen something on the news?
She told me that someone told her that it was on the news tonight?
Does anyone have any info on this matter?

My current relationsip and my travelling is keeping me away from the board...
But, I do check out the board once in awhile to stay informed...

Thanks in advance, for any information...

H4L

Wyd2k
12-28-07, 01:25
On local wusa 11 o'clock news tonite. LE got them. Can anyone verify?

Baltimonger
12-28-07, 01:43
Hello all,

It's been some time, since I been on the board.
One of the girl that I know from a DC spa called and asked me
if I heard of a place called YOUNG'S SPA getting raided today?
Has anyone heard or seen something on the news?
She told me that someone told her that it was on the news tonight?
Does anyone have any info on this matter?

My current relationsip and my travelling is keeping me away from the board...
But, I do check out the board once in awhile to stay informed...

Thanks in advance, for any information...

H4L


Yes it's true. 3 Girls arrested for prostitution; the place (2352 Wisconsin) is called Venus now. www.nbc4.com

Hobbyist4Life
12-28-07, 02:00
Yes it's true. 3 Girls arrested for prostitution; the place (2352 Wisconsin) is called Venus now. www.nbc4.com


Thanks, Bmonger....
I knew I can count on the board for any breaking news...
It seems like the neighbors made some complaints!

H4L

Max Beelyun
12-28-07, 10:54
Why on earth would anyone open an AMP in a residential neighborhood? That seems crazy.


Yes it's true. 3 Girls arrested for prostitution; the place (2352 Wisconsin) is called Venus now. www.nbc4.com

Rejected Monke
12-28-07, 11:06
http://www.nbc4.com/news/14934375/detail.html?dl=mainclick

So looks like the two working girls were 35 and 45, which along with the infamous Coco being 50, makes you really, really wonder.

I'm starting to think that it's a safe bet that none of the AMP girls are under 30. I've only seen one girl who was legitimately under 30, but she was from China, which is much more prone to human trafficking, unlike the supposed BS that the Korean girls went through.

Rejected Monke
12-28-07, 11:22
Meanwhile, my Supra report. Had a couple hours to fill so went to see two girls. Saw Sasha first. 5'5" and a fit body. Not my style in terms of looks, but I can definitely see many being wow'ed by her. Youthful looks, but her personality is where she really acts like a little kid. A lot of giggling and pouting and high-pitched speech for guys who are into that type of thing. Service was good, nothing extraordinary.

Second girl was older in looks, short height at maybe 5'2" or 5'3" and had a little pooch but it was ok. Her name was Cookie. Had another standard service.

Both girls were relaxing and non-rushed, and good for what you came for.

Meanwhile, judging from some of the posts, looks like there is some sort of PM network for intel. I wish someone would please include me in these! I'm always looking for a youthful looking spinner (ala Sarah/Coco and Susie at Supra) or extraordinary performance (Cici at Happiness), but alas, when I do find out, I'm usually too late and they are already getting ready for vacation when I get to see them.

Dr Bombay
12-28-07, 11:23
Why on earth would anyone open an AMP in a residential neighborhood? That seems crazy. Not quite a residental neighborhood. It was a lot more discreet and didn't serve beer which is more than what Good Guys does. Glover Park is a wonderful mix of cultures with the occasional hiccup of a city council member. The same neighborhood used to have a AMP that housed an immigration lawyer and the headquarters of a guy running for city council.

Freshly Snipes
12-28-07, 12:14
D.C. Police say investigators have broken up a brothel operating out of a spa in Glover Park.

The Metropolitan Police Department's Prostitution Enforcement Unit raided the Venus Spa on Wisconsin Avenue Thursday afternoon, arresting three women. Investigators charged 59-year-old Sun Pyong with operating a house of prostitution. Lian Shu Cui, 35, was charged with solicitation for lewd and immoral purposes and Son Bongsok, 45, was charged with giving a massage without a license. The three defendants are scheduled to be arraigned Friday in D.C. Superior Court.

An undercover police officer was sent in to investigate the business after citizens complained. The sign on the door at the location raided by police said "Young s", even though police listed the business as Venus Spa.

The news that there was an alleged brothel operating next to restaurants and bars took many by surprise.

"I am absolutely flabberghasted," said restaurant patron Nell Minow.

"I've been to the restaurant next door several times. I've been to this bar. I had no idea," added fellow restaurant patron Rachel Apatoff.

Others claimed to have long noticed something suspicious.

"You'd always see guys going in and taking their time and then coming out later, it was pretty obvious," recalled bar patron Scott Hager.

The D.C. Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs is also investigating.
This is why I've cut back DRASTICALLY on the hobby.

Jake Jj 1492
12-28-07, 12:28
Why on earth would anyone open an AMP in a residential neighborhood? That seems crazy.
Residential neighborhood? JP's is a few doors down and Good Guys is across the street. It's like a little strip mall (literally) with a CVS, Supermarket, restaurants, bars, etc. Too bad the neighborhood caters to the strip joints but not to much less trouble-prone establishments like Young's...

Max Beelyun
12-28-07, 13:09
Ah, thanks for the correction. I've never been over there. The NBC4 article mentioned "neighbors" and "georgetown" so I assumed it was a residential area. My bad.

Given what you said, I can't believe any neighbors would complain though. Makes no sense.


Residential neighborhood? JP's is a few doors down and Good Guys is across the street. It's like a little strip mall (literally) with a CVS, Supermarket, restaurants, bars, etc. Too bad the neighborhood caters to the strip joints but not to much less trouble-prone establishments like Young's...

LexLuther
12-28-07, 13:24
The big problem with AMPs is the same problem you have with anything in this country which relates to men, women, and their attitudes toward each other. Due to our pilgrim forebears, we have all inherited a most fucked up attitude toward sex. Americans are basically afraid of sex and of their own sexuality. They are also, incidentally, opposed to healthy fun and enjoyment.

At different periods in our history (the 60's for example) various movements have arisen which have tried to oppose these unfortunate attributes of our national character. But eventually they were all doomed to failure. It's no accident that the only place to enjoy a natural massage with perhaps a happy ending is an AMP. Asians, in my experience, have the healthiest attitudes toward how one leads a happy and healthy life.

I wish that those of us who love and enjoy AMPs would rise up and lobby for the acceptance of these establishments which provide a much needed outlet for our natural need for pleasure and sexual release.

LexLuther

Member #4338
12-28-07, 13:59
The big problem with AMPs is the same problem you have with anything in this country which relates to men, women, and their attitudes toward each other. Due to our pilgrim forebears, we have all inherited a most fucked up attitude toward sex. Americans are basically afraid of sex and of their own sexuality. They are also, incidentally, opposed to healthy fun and enjoyment.

At different periods in our history (the 60's for example) various movements have arisen which have tried to oppose these unfortunate attributes of our national character. But eventually they were all doomed to failure. It's no accident that the only place to enjoy a natural massage with perhaps a happy ending is an AMP. Asians, in my experience, have the healthiest attitudes toward how one leads a happy and healthy life.

I wish that those of us who love and enjoy AMPs would rise up and lobby for the acceptance of these establishments which provide a much needed outlet for our natural need for pleasure and sexual release.

LexLuther

Lex for President!!

LexLuther
12-28-07, 15:26
Is there not something, somewhere which guarantees us the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Yet when some industry springs up whose business model reduces to helping men pursue happiness, the government spends untold amounts of our money to shut them down, put the owners, workers, and sometimes customers in jail, and deprive half the population of their inalienable rights.

It's time for change fellow punters. Forget Hillary, Obama, Huckabee, and all the others. Vote LexLuther!

If you send me a $20.00 campaign contribution I'll send you a free Punter's Populist Party bumper sticker. This is a beautiful sticker which is oval in shape (with the major axis running vertically), pink in color, and comes complete with real Asian c**t hair fringe.

I'm LexLuther and I approve of this message.

Baltimonger
12-28-07, 16:30
You'd always see guys going in and taking their time and then coming out later, it was pretty obvious," recalled bar patron Scott Hager.

What, the ten mile wide shit eating grin?

Big Daddy Don
12-28-07, 17:37
I hate just blatantly asking for intel but.... Does anyone know where June from 1818 went? I was told it was the same June from NOVA establishments and she was one of my ATF providers.

Pheonixzero13
12-28-07, 18:59
Quote:

The big problem with AMPs is the same problem you have with anything in this country which relates to men, women, and their attitudes toward each other. Due to our pilgrim forebears, we have all inherited a most fucked up attitude toward sex. Americans are basically afraid of sex and of their own sexuality. They are also, incidentally, opposed to healthy fun and enjoyment.

At different periods in our history (the 60's for example) various movements have arisen which have tried to oppose these unfortunate attributes of our national character. But eventually they were all doomed to failure. It's no accident that the only place to enjoy a natural massage with perhaps a happy ending is an AMP. Asians, in my experience, have the healthiest attitudes toward how one leads a happy and healthy life.

I wish that those of us who love and enjoy AMPs would rise up and lobby for the acceptance of these establishments which provide a much needed outlet for our natural need for pleasure and sexual release.

LexLuther

I do not post here very often but I do read this forum everyday. I saw the report on the news, and I must confess I am beggining to get worried about this. When one AMP gets busted, the others are sure to ollow sooner or later. I don't want to be a fatalistc bastard, but I am simply worried that another black wednsday might be making its way to D. C, our sanctuary of fun and pleasure. I totally agree with you Lex, our women (Western) simply have too many issues, they are lacking in feminity, attitude, and everything else we men have always looked for in them, which is why we find ourselves visiting AMPs, it is the only way that we can be with women that truly know how to please a man and make him happy. From my numerous 2 year experiences with AMP's and personal relationships with Asian women, I can say that these women are TRUE WOMEN, they know how to please you and make you happy, they have something that Western women are lacking. A HEART! I really hope that anther black wednsday doesn't come our way again. I really hope not.

Jalb25
12-28-07, 20:50
Does anyone have any idea where Laura (Xena the Warrior Princess) might be working? She is a big but very pretty Korean girl that is very tall and a bit muscular. Also, she has a a few tattoos (one is a sun tattoo around her navel). She was working at Rio but I called and was told that she is no longer there. I would really like to see her and would greatly appreciate any help.

Thanks

Drunk Irish
12-28-07, 22:03
I was there the day it was busted. I had a bad feeling and was thinking it was being watched at minimum (for various reasons, been at this long enough to trust my sense and observations). One guy, and he was loud, at the door kept asking when he could come back and was kind of arguing with the mama-san. I was thinking WTF, then thought--I wonder if he is a cop. Next thing I know I read in the post they were busted.

The stories are BS with the "Its a nice neighborhood we don't need those kind of people hanging around." Um, there are two strip clubs, and guys who drop $$$ at AMPs aren't bums by any stretch of the imagination. I see far worse bums and vagrants loitering around Georgetown waiting to rob people on Saturday night.

Yet ANOTHER Amp gone.

LexLuther
12-28-07, 23:00
By the way, the name I mentioned below (Punter's Populist Party) is the short name for my organization. The real name is Punter's Populist Party United to Sustain Sexuality Indefinitely (P-P-PUSSI). For we believe in truth that if any of those other wankers get elected, sexuality (your sexuality) will soon be a thing of the past.

So if your sexuality means anything to you and to your enjoyment of life, send LexLuther whatever kind of campaign contribution you can. I promise that if I get elected I will put an end to this willy nilly closing of the AMPs. An AMP is a business like any other. They create wealth while providing an important and valuable service which we all believe in partaking of as often as possible. For this reason, my administration will get behind putting AMPs on every street in every city of this country. Why we'll even have AMPs on Pennsylvania Avenue, just down from the White House. No longer will you have to drive from Capitol Hill to Anacostia just to get a smoky little cracked out street walker. Nor will you have to compromise your safety by going to the few knock joints near the old New York Avenue Market.

We'll have floors and floors of ready willing and able fuckstresses of all descriptions selling their wares in renovated older retail locations throughout the city. Competition is American and in this industry it will bring down the costs and bring up the quality like you would not believe.

These women want to do this. They also want you to feel you are getting a good deal so you will return time after time. There even some schemes afoot to do micro lending to these workers so they can loan the cost of a one hours around the world vacation to the punter who thinks he can't afford that kind of an experience.

This usurious lending will indeed create great wealth which will stinulate other asian women to come in offering whatever it is they do best. This is a new approach to economics and can clearly be seen to advantage the disadvantaged over their more educated contemporaries.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I urge you to get behind my scheme and to back us with your dollars. Thanks.

I'm LexLuther and I approve of this announcement.

Eeyore
12-28-07, 23:59
Once again visited Supra, this time for a session with Maya. By far she has had the best English of any provider I’ve ever seen there. When I asked where she came from, she said ‘New York’ in a sassy way. Her breasts were definitely pumped up with silicone. While giving me French, she slipped on a beret so smoothly that I did not even notice it. She has magic hands. We did cowgirl, then I bent her over the table for a firm, full doggy finish. Phew.

The one thing that made me nervous was the way that she seemed to be sizing me up for marital prospects after the session. It wouldn’t be the first time a provider has fished for a proposal from me—I couldn’t tell if she’s joking, passing the time or serious. I deflected her questions and we walked arm-in-arm to the door, where she and the mama-san bid me good night and happy returns.

Ravane
12-29-07, 00:48
By the way, the name I mentioned below (Punter's Populist Party) is the short name for my organization. The real name is Punter's Populist Party United to Sustain Sexuality Indefinitely (P-P-PUSSI). For we believe in truth that if any of those other wankers get elected, sexuality (your sexuality) will soon be a thing of the past.

So if your sexuality means anything to you and to your enjoyment of life, send LexLuther whatever kind of campaign contribution you can. I promise that if I get elected I will put an end to this willy nilly closing of the AMPs. An AMP is a business like any other. They create wealth while providing an important and valuable service which we all believe in partaking of as often as possible. For this reason, my administration will get behind putting AMPs on every street in every city of this country. Why we'll even have AMPs on Pennsylvania Avenue, just down from the White House. No longer will you have to drive from Capitol Hill to Anacostia just to get a smoky little cracked out street walker. Nor will you have to compromise your safety by going to the few knock joints near the old New York Avenue Market.

...

Ladies and Gentlemen, I urge you to get behind my scheme and to back us with your dollars. Thanks.

I'm LexLuther and I approve of this announcement. LOL.

Great idea, Lex. Tell me, though, what about taxation? I'm just sayin. I would vote for ya, but don't they need to pay taxes like the rest of us? (those of us who actually 'pay', that is.)

Btw, my check is in the mail.

Selah!

Aman Tuleev
12-29-07, 01:33
PT is in the MD thread, see its reviews there.
Thanks!

Be Safe,
Aman

Sashimi
12-29-07, 01:59
I read about the bust. I also noticed that they still had an ad in Friday's WP.

LexLuther
12-29-07, 09:01
Ravane,

You've brought up an important point. Right now the AMP workers as well as the AMP owners and probably everyone else who has anything at all to do with AMPs are actually violating a serious law. That is tax evasion. No one in this industry is paying taxes. And this applies to just about everyone from the Korean Taxi driver who moves the girls around the country to the Korean dry wall mechanic who puts up the flimsy walls to separate the punters from one another to the Korean absentee owner to the mamasan and all of the lovely girls who actually do the work in such places.

This must be corrected. As your president, Lex will let KAI (Korean Amp Industry) know that he can put a stop to all this harrassment from people like the police, health department, etc.. In return, they will all have to pay taxes. And once again in return we'll give them all licenses to operate. The girls will actually get weekly exams by a qualified doctor. Everyone will be safer and happier.

The wives of married punters will be happier because their punter husbands will usually be in a good mood since he has a reliable piece of Asian poontang on which he can rely and recommend to all of his punter friends.

This will truly be the best of all worlds.

I'm LexLuther and I approve this message.

Drew Park
12-29-07, 09:09
Right now the AMP workers as well as the AMP owners and probably everyone else who has anything at all to do with AMPs are actually violating a serious law. That is tax evasion. No one in this industry is paying taxes...This must be corrected...In return, they will all have to pay taxes. And once again in return we'll give them all licenses to operate. The girls will actually get weekly exams by a qualified doctor. Everyone will be safer and happier.

Lex - Would this be considered a "Sin Tax" or a "Luxury Tax"?

And like everything else in business, the new cost of doing business would be passed on to the consumer.

But count me onboard anyways!

LexLuther
12-29-07, 09:44
Excellent question Drew. We're not going to call it a sin tax because that has negative connotations and we wish to bring these activities out into the light of day if you will. We're not going to call it a luxury tax because we believe a good massage with some sort of release is not a luxury but the right of every American with a working pair of cojones. What we are in fact talking about are the kinds of taxes, licensing fees, etc. which every other business owner must pay and the kind of income taxes that every working American pays.

It's true that the industry will turn around and pass those extra expenses on to the punter. But our studies have shown that the number of AMPs will explode. With more competition will come lower prices. We also believe that tipping a lady for her services (beyond the massage) will be much less expensive than it is today. The reason you pay such exhorbitant tips today is that in effect you are compensating this young woman for providing a service which is essentially illegal. Anyone who knows economics knows that when an individual or business takes risks for the benefit of the consumer, they expect to be compensated for that. Our aim is to reduce or eliminate this risk for the AMP industry.

In addition, although few people discuss this fact, the punter normally takes a risk every time he visits an AMP. If he is not risking his life in a crappy, poorly lit neighborhood, he is certainly risking it when he engages in certain activities behind the curtain. Having the girls examined and certified as healthy will reduce or eliminate this risk.

Then there's the risk of his nighttime foray being reported to his SO. With the number of knock shops which we expect to see, they can be made less conspicuous.

I'm LexLuther and I approve this message.

Member #4338
12-29-07, 10:09
Have I created a monster?

Worried.

Lax

Bikjik69
12-29-07, 10:26
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So looks like the two working girls were 35 and 45, which along with the infamous Coco being 50, makes you really, really wonder.

I'm starting to think that it's a safe bet that none of the AMP girls are under 30.Of course they're over 30 but guys don't want to admit it because it goes against their fantasy and the truth about how they're paying old hags for FS.

Some guys don't want to believe that this one unit in HoCo is over 30 but to me it's obvious.

Drew Park
12-29-07, 11:49
It's true that the industry will turn around and pass those extra expenses on to the punter. But our studies have shown that the number of AMPs will explode. With more competition will come lower prices.

Ahh yes, Economics 101!

Like any retail/service industry I would envision a wide range of choices. For example you can buy a shirt at Sachs Fifth Avenue or you can buy one at Walmart. Both shirts will get the job done but the one from Sachs will look better, fit better, & feel better.

And then there is a the Costco/Sam's Club factor. Members only.

And lets not forget franchising! Consider a "Value Menu" option...

The possibilities are endless.

Gryfin
12-29-07, 15:16
Hi guys,

I'm coming down from Toronto in early January and would love to take in some of the local massage parlours. If there are any asian/korean establishments that are in the area, I'd love to know about them.

Thanks in advance, Gryfin

CabDriver52
12-29-07, 17:49
Does anyone remember the OK spa just up the street from Good Guy's and JP's? I can remember going several times and it was good. The neighborhood isn't exactly residential. There were some neighbors who complained and after enough of that the donut crew went around and busted the place. If you go back a few streets from Wisconsin, yes there's houses. It's more a marketplace for a lot of businesses, even the dead are dying to get in.

Too bad though, let's hope it stops there.

Cabbie!

A John
12-29-07, 18:17
Ya,
check the No Va forum for Alexandria Bro.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=713


Hi guys,

I'm coming down from Toronto in early January and would love to take in some of the local massage parlours. If there are any asian/korean establishments that are in the area, I'd love to know about them.

Thanks in advance, Gryfin

DickAllMighty
12-30-07, 01:09
Meant to report in last week but didn't get a chance until now. Had a dream about the one-triple-three upstairs. Nothing exceptional, but a nice dream nonetheless. Dreamt about a girl named Gina. If you like the kogal-looking type, she's your girl. She doesn't look as "severe" as some of the pictures you might see on the web, but you can definitely tell that was the look she's going for. Not really my preference but the place was busy. Had to wait for the TS, and kept hearing male voices throughout the dream. The good thing about Gina is that she got the kind of asset that look incredible while you're walking the dog with her. Probably not a repeat for me because I know there's better, but some of you might be interested.

Chaz
12-30-07, 02:31
While I have no doubt that LL would be better than the retard now serving as president, I think simply voting for the Democrat candidate will relieve the pressure to shut down AMPs. Think about it, Democrats at least acknowledge that they have sex. Republicans are unable to admit that they have sex. We might be lucky enough to have a Democrat who admits to enjoying sex, in which case we might expect the AMPs to be left alone. So let's support the Democrat, whoever it may be.

LoveLOS
12-30-07, 03:06
I was having an interesting text message conversation RE the recent misguided action against a fine business establishment. (We hope that they are exonerated of any wrongdoing.) The premise was that this board had something to do with the action because it was shown in a news clip. BTW-the source of that clip would be helpful, if any who have that info could provide any substantiation, that may be helpful.

I had not planned to bring this up, but for influence of the persons who brought it to my attention in the background. It was my devils advocate that proposed we stop posting all these dicey trip reports. I am aware other boards have hashed all this out before, but we are DC, and we run our ship differently.

Not surprisingly, I took a different stance, that nothing we write can be used in court. But is the mass of hearsay enough to let LE take a minor complaint and open a real investigation? Was the Young's bust, with those dozen or so incriminating USG posts, a fluke? Or is everybody comfortable with how things are going? Should we, as a board, create a code that is not published so that the news media cannot use USG as moral support for action by LE (**now that is reprehensible**)?

I'm throwing it out there. If it is a non-issue, ignore it. If it starts a war, oops, I didn't mean to... Lex can be Commander-in-Chief. I been there and don't want it! I have my thoughts, but I will temper them once I have heard yours.

That said, I'll be talkin to some of you before and maybe even IRL, but since I may not get online, so...


I wish you all a safe, happy, prosperous, and sex-filled new year!



LoveLOS ~

Dr Bombay
12-30-07, 09:18
I was having an interesting text message conversation RE the recent misguided action against a fine business establishment. (We hope that they are exonerated of any wrongdoing.) The premise was that this board had something to do with the action because it was shown in a news clip. BTW-the source of that clip would be helpful, if any who have that info could provide any substantiation, that may be helpful.

I had not planned to bring this up, but for influence of the persons who brought it to my attention in the background. It was my devils advocate that proposed we stop posting all these dicey trip reports. I am aware other boards have hashed all this out before, but we are DC, and we run our ship differently.

Not surprisingly, I took a different stance, that nothing we write can be used in court. But is the mass of hearsay enough to let LE take a minor complaint and open a real investigation? Was the Young's bust, with those dozen or so incriminating USG posts, a fluke? Or is everybody comfortable with how things are going? Should we, as a board, create a code that is not published so that the news media cannot use USG as moral support for action by LE (**now that is reprehensible**)? If this board is a source of Information to the LE, why would they expose that fact in court? Young's (and OK) operated in a free flowing alcohol area which draws a police presence. I remember Shepard's Park in Md. They had the same circumstances, lotsa bars and and a parlor. Neighbors got tired of the fights and littering. They complained and everything got shut down. I've read the blogs of Glover Park. Everyone knew about our places. Some were tolerant, some weren't. Plus, if I were a councilmember with a tourist attraction like the Cathedral right up the street I wouldn't be too happy about that block anyway. Sorry about the ramble but I don't think this site has anything to do with anything. Police don't generally bust our places until someone puts them in the crosshairs. Again, sorry about the ramble. I'm tired.

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Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.

Thanks,

Jackson

Fatpig
12-30-07, 12:03
It is sad that Youngs got closed down. I liked the girls there. They were fun. Sometimes that place was really crowded. I was put into the closet one time for 15 minutes waiting while others were leaving. Parking was so easy there.

Well I hope it opens up again.

LexLuther
12-30-07, 12:29
Let me drop my comedic persona for a moment and talk openly and seriously about something that I can safely say is of great importance to a great many of the folks who are members of this board. That is the subject of the AMP industry.

Here we have an industry which has sprung up without any help from anyone but themselves. That is to say they get no help from any level or branch of government. They have stepped in to fill what is obviously a deep-seated need on the part of many men to have available for purchase in one hour increments a particular type of relaxation, intimacy, fantasy, or whatever else you may wish to call it.

There are of course other segments of our society which are vehement in their desire to prohibit this type of activity. On the one hand you have the militant far right true believers. These are also the people who believe we should not have access to alchohol, gambling, cigarettes, and a whole plethora of other of life's small pleasures.

The militant left (particularly the distaff side) feels that this activity is demeaning to women. The problem with their thinking is that the AMP industry is not merely the domain of ignorant, disadvantaged women. I personally know a number of women in this industry who are quite well educated and who have amassed considerable fortunes by virtue of their work in it.

I am reminded that within the past year, several thousand sex workers in Korea demonstrated in Seoul for the right to continue their careers. Contrary to what many believe, we mongers are not a depraved lot. We too come from all walks of life, all socioeconomic levels. Some of us are well educated and others not so well educated. What I suggest is that if we really love this hobby, we band together and let the government and the rest of the country know how we feel about the AMP industry. If you are afraid of letting people know who you are, you could wear a mask or some other form of disguise.

I suggest that on January 1, 2008 we demonstrate in front of some important D.C. government edifice. I suggest we let everyone know how much we value this freedom. Keep in mind that almost every advanced society on the planet allows some form of legalized prostitution. Why is it that in this area as in so many others, America is so far behind?

LexLuther

Macphisto
12-30-07, 16:47
I suggest that on January 1, 2008 we demonstrate in front of some important D.C. government edifice. I suggest we let everyone know how much we value this freedom.Protests might help, but this is DC. Town of lobbyists. How do they get laws changed? Campaign donations, gifts, and bribery. I propose setting up a political action committee (Mongers United? ). Follow the blueprint of other successful lobbies. Golf trips, conferences in Hawaii, etc. As a kicker, take the politicians on a Germany FKK whirlwhind tour. Then hope for the best.

Eerock
12-30-07, 17:21
I was having an interesting text message conversation RE the recent misguided action against a fine business establishment. (We hope that they are exonerated of any wrongdoing.) The premise was that this board had something to do with the action because it was shown in a news clip. BTW-the source of that clip would be helpful, if any who have that info could provide any substantiation, that may be helpful.Was on Friday's 10 pm local Fox News. Check out the sideboard vid here:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=65440A0F59C1FEF6B2197611938BDDB1?contentId=5333663&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Sleazebum
12-30-07, 17:28
Just two questions:

1. What time?

2. Where?

JJ


Let me drop my comedic persona for a moment and talk openly and seriously about something that I can safely say is of great importance to a great many of the folks who are members of this board. That is the subject of the AMP industry.

Here we have an industry which has sprung up without any help from anyone but themselves. That is to say they get no help from any level or branch of government. They have stepped in to fill what is obviously a deep-seated need on the part of many men to have available for purchase in one hour increments a particular type of relaxation, intimacy, fantasy, or whatever else you may wish to call it.

There are of course other segments of our society which are vehement in their desire to prohibit this type of activity. On the one hand you have the militant far right true believers. These are also the people who believe we should not have access to alchohol, gambling, cigarettes, and a whole plethora of other of life's small pleasures.

The militant left (particularly the distaff side) feels that this activity is demeaning to women. The problem with their thinking is that the AMP industry is not merely the domain of ignorant, disadvantaged women. I personally know a number of women in this industry who are quite well educated and who have amassed considerable fortunes by virtue of their work in it.

I am reminded that within the past year, several thousand sex workers in Korea demonstrated in Seoul for the right to continue their careers. Contrary to what many believe, we mongers are not a depraved lot. We too come from all walks of life, all socioeconomic levels. Some of us are well educated and others not so well educated. What I suggest is that if we really love this hobby, we band together and let the government and the rest of the country know how we feel about the AMP industry. If you are afraid of letting people know who you are, you could wear a mask or some other form of disguise.

I suggest that on January 1, 2008 we demonstrate in front of some important D.C. government edifice. I suggest we let everyone know how much we value this freedom. Keep in mind that almost every advanced society on the planet allows some form of legalized prostitution. Why is it that in this area as in so many others, America is so far behind?

LexLuther

LexLuther
12-30-07, 20:45
JJ and others,

Turns out you have to have a permit for a demonstration. There is not enough time between now and New Year's Day to plan and arrange this. So how would my fellow AMP lovers feel about doing this, say on May Day?

I request that those of you who are willing to attend PM me with a comittment.

LexLuther

Max Beelyun
12-31-07, 04:08
A while back, I went to this place. The lady there said "Just two girls, very slow today, you take them both. Same price."

I hastily said yes. Then I thought, I don't have enough to tip them both. So I told the lady that one girl would be fine.

So what is the protocol/etiquette in that situation?

LexLuther
12-31-07, 08:42
Max Billion,

On the two occasions that I have had two girls in an AMP, I have been obliged to pay the house fee twice and to tip twice.

I must add that the girl-on-girl sex was a big letdown. They pretend to eat one another's treats but they are faking.

From what you write the mama offered to rebate the house fee. But you can bet you would have been required or expected to tip both ladies. That allows the mama to keep both girls semi-happy so they won't complain or leave.

LexLuther

CommonSense
12-31-07, 09:23
Question:

What spa's have curtains and not doors in VA. I'm talking about to the massage rooms. I heard of a k-girl who is working at a place in VA that has curtains for doors on the rooms. They claim to be totally legit all the girls have massage liscenses and the business has one also.

Back page me and I will give you all the info you want about DC and who to see.

CS

Jake Jj 1492
12-31-07, 10:16
A while back, I went to this place. The lady there said "Just two girls, very slow today, you take them both. Same price."

I hastily said yes. Then I thought, I don't have enough to tip them both. So I told the lady that one girl would be fine.

So what is the protocol/etiquette in that situation?
Go to the ATM!

I've had not so exciting times in this situation, and I've had amazing adventures when this option arises. Next time just run out to the ATM and grab a bit more cash...and hope for the latter.

The better adventures were when I knew one or both of the girls first though. Of course, it's a given that it's better if they are equally as into each other as they are into you.

Happy New Year Folks!
jjj

P.S. - While some are doing ISOs for their favorites, I'd love to hear where Tara (of Supra mid to late-October) is now. Please PM if you have any info. Thanks!

Max Beelyun
12-31-07, 12:17
Go to the ATM!
Thanks. I'm glad I declined then. My very first time to an AMP, I had been told to bring a particular amount of money, and it was not enough money. The girl, an extreme hottie, was pissed.



P.S. - While some are doing ISOs for their favorites, I'd love to hear where Tara (of Supra mid to late-October) is now. Please PM if you have any info. Thanks!
Me too! Me too! Tara was awesome.

She might be getting her boobs done. She talked about it a lot. A damn shame, if you ask me.

CabDriver52
12-31-07, 12:22
Did you see the dogs on the video? Bow wow is the word. Between the 400 yo woman interviewed early on and the other rover. "we'll be watching. ". Yikes.

Nice shot of the website too. Someone with a lot of time on their hands.

The donut crew knows all about the spas. If you're thinking they don't you're living in the dark. I think as long as things are quiet and nobody complains, everything will be cool. Someone complains, raises a stink at all, the place gets busted, pretty simple. We have to be very careful in the future. I'm thinking with the elections coming up, we might be in for some "interesting" times. This thing is a hot issue with any politician. Too many people to make angry. Women, minorities, and that's just the surface.

Be careful out there.

Happy New Year to all.

Cabbie!

Rejected Monke
12-31-07, 17:20
Had some free time over the weekend.

Spent a couple hours at 1413k. Saw Angie. Many reports regarding her. Most say her face is ok but her body is good.

My opinion is opposite. I really liked her face but her body is just ok. Her body is natural and very pretty, but it's not a knockout. Good personality and a standard, if not a little rushed, session. Some dude was waiting on her.

Also saw Jenny at 1413k. Well. She looks young. But she's not that good looking. At least in my opinion. At least she's skinny? I'm one of those guys where looks matter, and Jenny is not for me.

Saw Susie at Gold. No reports regarding her. Not to be confused with Susie's from everywhere else (since when did Susie become the new common name a la Mimi/Nana/Coco?).

Her face is okay. Her voice is not okay. Pretty hoarse, maybe from smoking, I don't know. But her body is a complete knockout. Nice ass, nice fake tits, nice tan, nice stomach (let's face it, there are way too many pretty working girls who have the total package... except for the glaring beer belly). If her face was a little bit uglier, she'd be the posterchild for paperbagging, and I mean that as a compliment.

Her performance is not bad either. It's standard, but seems better due to the fact she has a pretty wild personality. Acts like she is horny throughout. Only downside is she is not that flexible in that I couldn't quite maneuver her in the ways I wanted. She didn't deny me anything, though. It's just that if I tried harder I probably would've broken a few of her bones.

I recommend seeing Susie at least once just for the body. I'll see her again as I like her body and personality, but not for her face, and definitely not for her raspy voice.


I'd appreciate some recommendations for any new girls to see. You have no idea how frustrating is to see multiple posts asking "Where's Tara? She was awesome!" when there were only a few reports about her.

I also suspect some people are purposely knocking down points for girls that are better than standard fare. I can't believe how many 7's Susie got after I saw her by chance in the halls of Dupont. Tell me, how easy is it to find a girl that looks like Dupont Susie at an AMP?

NOT EASY.

And why the heck were there no reports of a girl who used to work at Gold who provided GFE including BBBJ and kissing? Wow, that would've been nice if someone told me while she was actually there! I find it hard to believe that no one here ever saw her once!

Kind of reminds me of Sue in Virginia over a year ago. Very few reports about her, and those that were happened to be very vague. That's why I owe everything to Sleazebum who was selfless enough to share the very first report about Sue and provided more details when I PMed him as a newbie.

DickAllMighty
01-01-08, 21:16
The donut crew knows all about the spas. If you're thinking they don't you're living in the dark. I think as long as things are quiet and nobody complains, everything will be cool.Right. I wonder if anything in particular happened that caused the complaint for Young's. Maybe somebody in the neighborhood found out it was an AMP. Maybe competition called in the complaint.

Ampfreq
01-01-08, 22:07
Managed to get to the 4th floor to celebrate the New Year. Maybe I learned a lesson, maybe not. I wait a few (10?) minutes which is not unusual. In waltzes "Mimi" a cute not quite spinner type who apologizes and explains that 3 of 5 girls are on vacation so things are crazy there. I should've walked when mamasan/ahjima asked me to wait. I get a gentle ultra fast TS and then a rapid fire BJ and no massagi whatsoever. Mish as fast as you can say...well, whatever, and we're through. A promise of more next time. In and out in under 40 minutes. Perhaps less than 30. And the final straw is, not until I leave do I see a lumpy side to Mimi's lower lip. A big-a$$ cold sore? I am trying not to think about it.

I guess a follow-up may be required. In any case you have been warned.

Stay safe,

af

LoveLOS
01-02-08, 03:39
Decided to try a new adventure at an old favorite. Went to Rio, was told 10 minute wait. My response was, "No Problem, but No Nana." I was ushered to room 3.

Bobby, a beautifully put together K-girl soon knocked. Nice. Shower busy, is hot towel OK? Not so Nice, but big smile and "OK, honeeeee!" Yes, I mimic them, it makes them laugh, which is half the battle to achieve good sex with a woman who you have known for six minutes. The other half, for LL (and other offenders here) is to get my tounge between her legs. That goal was also achieved and the result was that I achieved great sex with a woman whom I knew for around an hour.

Bobby: late 20's early 30's (she says 28) (then she changed to 18. I warned her I was 16 and yes, I got another laugh.) Straight black hair, real b cups, well formed shape with erect, erotically sensitive nips. About 118-124lbs, likes DATY and her favorite position is Mish. I can deal with that with a pretty face, which she has.
Face 8
Body 8
TS 0
Massagi 7
Sexo 9
Overall 8
Repeat? Absolutely.

After leaving the establishment, I was very relaxed, but after a bit of driving around, I decided to hit 14K. I got sidetracked by this adventure.

I stayed overnight and chose to visit an establishment near my hotel due to a tiny window of opportunity. A short hike brought me to a familiar second floor on 18th St. I was greeted and recognized by mamahajimi and ushered to the corner room where I had the pleasure of getting to know Pink last time I was there. I stripped quickly. Nana walked in. I chose the half hour session which lasted about 45 fun-filled minutes...

Tall, about 5'6", probably 130 - well placed pounds. Probably about 35, she too-readily agreed to my 'guessed' age of 28. Fake c+ cups, moderate hardness. DATY and her favorite position is Dog. She has wonderful oral skills, and a sweet tasting puss, but methinks she is a bit loose for little LL's taste, but then again, I enjoyed fucking her to complete exhaustion! ...and fans of Nana @ Supra, this girl also claims to be her. I cannot confirm since I never saw her while @ Supra. (Attn Max!)

Nana @ Gold:
Face 8
Body 8
TS N/A
Massagi N/A
Sexo 7
Overall 7
Repeat? Yes!

I also have a correction. This girl was named Jennie, not Angie.
And LoveLos, if all you noticed were her eyes, then first, you were obviously focused on the prize...and second, I guess it's a good thing you didn't see where her hand went... ;-) I really could care less that her hand was on your ass, I was more interested in the location of her OTHER hand... :D

LoveLOS

DcDonkey
01-02-08, 13:40
Managed to get to the 4th floor to celebrate the New Year. Maybe I learned a lesson, maybe not. I wait a few (10?) minutes which is not unusual. In waltzes "Mimi" a cute not quite spinner type who apologizes and explains that 3 of 5 girls are on vacation so things are crazy there. I should've walked when mamasan/ahjima asked me to wait. I get a gentle ultra fast TS and then a rapid fire BJ and no massagi whatsoever. Mish as fast as you can say...well, whatever, and we're through. A promise of more next time. In and out in under 40 minutes. Perhaps less than 30. And the final straw is, not until I leave do I see a lumpy side to Mimi's lower lip. A big-a$$ cold sore? I am trying not to think about it.

I guess a follow-up may be required. In any case you have been warned.

Stay safe,

af

I hadn't been to an AMP in DC for a while before I went to Royal about two months ago, it was OK the first time so I decided to give it another shot to see if got better. It did not.

After waiting almost ten minutes I was totally rushed the whole time and the provider was about a 5 in looks as opposed to the 7 I had the first time. TS was adequate, but all business. A few minutes of moderate to bad massage and then the flip. I give her $ in addition to the .6 house fee I gave when I got there.

Weak and brief CBJ that left me mildly disinterested in even finishing; if there was some way I could have gotten back half my dough and left at that point, I would have. Only mish was offered, so I rutted myself to a finish after about ten minutes. After getting me a hot towel and a can of coke, the provider (she never told me a name) scooted out the room never to be seen again. I quickly dress and drink the soda before being escorted out by the Mamasan. Blecch!

I was there 40 minutes total which includes the wait at the beginning. I wouldn't mind so much if I had at least been offered a half hour rate, I'm definitely not going back.

Junky11
01-02-08, 19:17
I hadn't been to an AMP in DC for a while before I went to Royal about two months ago, it was OK the first time so I decided to give it another shot to see if got better. It did not.

After waiting almost ten minutes I was totally rushed the whole time and the provider was about a 5 in looks as opposed to the 7 I had the first time. TS was adequate, but all business. A few minutes of moderate to bad massage and then the flip. I give her $ in addition to the .6 house fee I gave when I got there.

Weak and brief CBJ that left me mildly disinterested in even finishing; if there was some way I could have gotten back half my dough and left at that point, I would have. Only mish was offered, so I rutted myself to a finish after about ten minutes. After getting me a hot towel and a can of coke, the provider (she never told me a name) scooted out the room never to be seen again. I quickly dress and drink the soda before being escorted out by the Mamasan. Blecch!

I was there 40 minutes total which includes the wait at the beginning. I wouldn't mind so much if I had at least been offered a half hour rate, I'm definitely not going back.

Been there a bunch of times and never had a bad experience but I don't doubt you. What did this provider look like?

John Marigold
01-03-08, 09:13
The protocol is to tip both girls. With business being slow, the mamasan is trying to allow the girls to make some extra tip money. Damn, I miss the DC/Bal'mer amps.... sigh


A while back, I went to this place. The lady there said "Just two girls, very slow today, you take them both. Same price."

I hastily said yes. Then I thought, I don't have enough to tip them both. So I told the lady that one girl would be fine.

So what is the protocol/etiquette in that situation?

LexLuther
01-03-08, 10:31
It's not "the protocol". It's what you will be required to pay! If you should try to leave without at least tipping both girls the required amount, you better never go back into that AMP or into any other AMP in which one of these girls is working.

That kind of talk makes my blood boil and makes me wonder what you people even understand about this industry, how it works, and what motivates the women who serve you.

LexLuther

Max Beelyun
01-03-08, 11:07
That kind of talk makes my blood boil and makes me wonder what you people even understand about this industry, how it works, and what motivates the women who serve you.
I'm sure money motivates them. But I was a little confused at the time -- the mamasan didn't ask me if I wanted both, she just said "you take them both", and this was AFTER I had asked specifically for a particular girl. So I wasn't clear on what exactly was being offered. As I said in my post, I decided to err on the side of caution and skip it, just to be safe.

Ginger Man
01-03-08, 19:16
But Nana Banana!

I have seen Nana, late of Gold, the last time or two, so I decided to go elsewhere today. I found myself on 14th Street, no one in front, so down the steps I go.

Inside I am told they have two ladies, and I say send in whoever is next. Lo and behold, my same Nana! We both laughed, I got some kisses, and off we went. Shower, followed by festivities of a varied nature. I will say if any of you guys play golf, you might want to bring your balls in to have them cleaned.

We finished with a nice massage, and pledges of undying love on both parts.

Seriously, I have followed her for some time now, and you can do worse. I will see her again, of course, but a little variety is also good.

John Marigold
01-03-08, 21:41
I could not agree MORE with you. I only used the word "protocol" because max billion specifically asked what the protocol/etiquette was. Yes, there is no question that both girls DESERVE to be tipped if they both serve you.


It's not "the protocol". It's what you will be required to pay! If you should try to leave without at least tipping both girls the required amount, you better never go back into that AMP or into any other AMP in which one of these girls is working.

That kind of talk makes my blood boil and makes me wonder what you people even understand about this industry, how it works, and what motivates the women who serve you.

LexLuther

Member #3947
01-03-08, 22:47
A little late but saw this in the Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/27/AR2007122702695.html

Daplush Man

Dire Wolf98
01-03-08, 23:02
I Took One For The Team last night at an "AMP" in Rockville. If someone else has already reported on this joint then flame me for being an f'n' moron. Farq!!!

Spotted an ad (below) in the Adult Services section of the DC City Paper. This venue is completely legit; no Happy Ending offered. That might actually be a good thing because the "girl" assigned to me was neither young nor attractive -- she was probably waving around a little red book during the Cultural Revolution. Avoid this place. $80 wasted.

SWEET ASIAN LADIES
posted 12/28/2007
Sweet Asian Ladies from China, full body massage, good customer service. It's the great to make you relax and rest. We open 7days/wk, 10am-8pm. $80 incall, $150 outcall. 966 Hungerford Dr., Rockville, MD 20850, 301-789-6691.

http://classifieds.washingtoncitypaper.com/washington/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A431555

LexLuther
01-03-08, 23:18
Max Billion,

Well fortunately this does not happen often. Normally the girls have been too busy or are just too tired to participate in one of these two-girl shows, or whatever they call them. The mamasan knows this as well as the girls do. However from time to time and in any given amp it may occur that over a particular span of days business may be very poor indeed.

Now the mamasan has probably seen such trends in the past. In fact it's possible that in the past she was a working girl herself. So she is wise enough to know that if this happens over a long enough period of time, one or two or even all of the working girls may get itchy feet and start looking over the fence or down the road where she has heard that the grass is greener. If things were to take their natural course, then mama may find herself completely without any working talent.

Of course sometimes you have a confluence of events in which many if not all of the girls have been working so hard that they need a sort of break but not an outright vacation. If that is the case, a wise mamasan will realize that she needs to let the working girls take it easy for a while, not push them to work. She will even turn away less desirable customers or customers about whom she has some sort of reservations if not fear that they will do damage to the establishment of its business.

But if she sees a young stallion come in to the establishment who looks as tough he could handle more than one girl and that he will not cause any truoble or dissension amoung the working troups, then he may suggest to the client (who is most often not unknows to the mamasan if not to some of the girls that he may enjoy himself more if he were to take on two gals instead of just one.

Now if mamasan is in the frame of mind to be generous and if she perceives that generosity to be likely to yield a certain sense of satisfaction and well-being among her working charges, then she may go ahead and suspend the house fee for one of the girls. But it is going to be a rare occasion indeed where she will sacrifice the tips which often go entirely to the girls. That would come directly out of the purses of the working girls, the very girls whom the mamasan wishes to keep happy enough that the will not get the urge to leave too soon.

You must keep in mind that many of these girls flit about the country or the state because they had gone to a particular place with certain expectations about an establishment which may not have born out under the scrutiny of their own experience. For instance a madam or mamasan if you will may have over exaggerated just how much money was to be made their, how hard the girls would have to work to make it. They may not have told the complete story on what the girl's living accommodations would look like, how much food would be supplied, what quality, etc. They may have described the local as being close to shopping opportunities when in fact it is in a poor rural area whose greatest retailer of women's clothes is the Lane Bryant shop.

So some of this yin and yang is what is at work when providers leave establishments more quickly than we expect them to do so. There are other issues as well of course. For instance in a place like the greater Metro Atlanta area where there have been a great many raids of late, you have a situation where a young woman with ambition may have come to town expecting that if she had ambition she would work her way up by gaining experience in one establishment and then move from one to the other until she had learned how to manage a place. Now due to the scarcity of spas in the former large numbers, she has to re-examine her former plan.

But above all, it is necessary for the mamasan can make the girls believe that through her running of the show, she can provide her girls the opportunity at least not to grow poor during their stay. Keep in mind that although these working girls may seem to you and me to be making an exhorbitant amount of money, many of them blow it on clothing, others send it back to support their children who are being cared for in another American city or in another country entirely. A small percentage of them are blowing their money on drugs. But I think that in general they live from one hand to the next. So a single deal put together by the mamas which show that they can each make out semi-well even when their only enough customers for one gal, will often allay the fears of a number girls.

But as I said the bottom line is that the punter should be prepared to "take care of" both girls. And unless mamasan offers it explicitly, the punter should expect to pay house fee for both girls.

Well that's it for now. Take care of those lovely young women as you would wish your sister to be taken care of were she in desparate enough straits to offer her pussy for sale. And if she does offer it up for sale and it's nice stuff, please tell old Lex about it, contact numbers, etc. :) Lex does enjoy a bit of strange now and again, all the more so if its the milf type of innocent undpected stuff that one did not expect to be on offer. But Lex likes his gals to go unshaven. That lends an even greater air of innocence to the who thing which does not suggest that this gal has done everything to herself to attract punters. It suggests she may not be overused, callous, jaded, and with a hard personality. We like the innocent unsuspecting ones whom we can teach something to. Something which will render them exquisitely viable in our hands.

LexLuther :)

Max Beelyun
01-04-08, 03:11
Didn't mean to cause a stir.

Anyway, went to see my fave again at 1413. Nothing to say that I haven't said before. Will definitely be back, but I'm starting to pine for Ruby so I might detour a bit first.

Sashimi
01-04-08, 14:39
What makes these businesses any different than other businesses in our free enterprise system? Look at your Sunday newspaper ads. Two for the price of one! Buy one and get one free! The businesses that cut prices take a risk by selling at or below cost, but they do it because they want the customer to come back or buy more. It pays for them to do it, for in the long run they get their money back. And every business has to worry about sustaining and maintaining their employees, you just offer additional incentives, maybe the mamasan can reduce the costs the employee pays for food or decreases the percentage the employee turns over to the house. To entice customers the business doesn’t just double up the price they in all cases reduce it. I visualize that the more business-minded Mamasan could offer her steady customers real specials, like a full-hour TEWFERONE special, not like the advertised $200 specials on CL.

Rejected Monke
01-04-08, 15:28
What makes these businesses any different than other businesses in our free enterprise system? Look at your Sunday newspaper ads. Two for the price of one! Buy one and get one free! The businesses that cut prices take a risk by selling at or below cost, but they do it because they want the customer to come back or buy more. It pays for them to do it, for in the long run they get their money back. And every business has to worry about sustaining and maintaining their employees, you just offer additional incentives, maybe the mamasan can reduce the costs the employee pays for food or decreases the percentage the employee turns over to the house. To entice customers the business doesn’t just double up the price they in all cases reduce it. I visualize that the more business-minded Mamasan could offer her steady customers real specials, like a full-hour TEWFERONE special, not like the advertised $200 specials on CL.

Your first mistake is comparing a girl at an AMP to a tube of toothpaste. I don't know if you realize it or not, but these girls are human beings who are in the business out greed, and despite what the news media and law enforcement may have led you to believe, these girls are not controlled by the mamasan, managers, or owners of an establishment. To put it simply, they're doing it for the money, not because they're forced to.

When you pay the $100 tip, the $100 doesn't go to the mamasan.

So keeping that in mind, what two girls in their right minds would want to split $100 between themselves for fucking you? Or take less than $100 each just because the mamasan said to?

I'd sure hate to see you run a business.

"Come use Sashimi's moving service! TEWFERONE SPECIAL!!! We'll send you two movers to get the move done in half the time! But whoops, one of them doesn't get paid! But it's okay because if I give them a free lunch at McDonalds, that's incentive for them to stay! Hahaa!! Heheehe!!! I'm a business guru!!!!"

LexLuther
01-04-08, 17:12
Sashimi,

You don't seem to understand the AMP business model. As RM astutely points out, the AMP workers are not pizzas or toothpaste. In fact they are more like independent contractors. They get no benefits as such. They pay for every morsel of food they get. They also kick in so much per day to cover the cost for the "kitchen mama" if there is one. If they need a doctor or a dentist, it comes out of their pocket. They have to buy their own AMP costumes.

When they leave to go on "bacation", they foot the bill for the so-called "Korean Taxi", any airfare, etc. Sometimes they don't even get the whole tip but must share it with the "house." If you don't tip, the girl has just taken care of your for nothing. That is why the mamasan or greeter always asks you if you've been there before. They want to make sure you understand how it works.

I learned a long time ago that you never cheat a working girl. If you have not learned that yet, I guarantee you that someday you will. And it can be a very hard lesson indeed. But once again as RM says, these are human beings. They get no joy out of fucking you. They do it because they need the money and that's the best way they know to earn it.

LexLuther

Grim Reaper
01-04-08, 19:31
I don't know what the hell just happened, but one of the most awkward sessions ever was also one of the best sessions I've ever had. Of course, memory is a fickle thing, so I may be giving too much credit to more recent dreams, but...

The girl herself? She looks around 29ish (according to AMP standards, meaning she could be anywhere from 29 to 40). She has an average to pretty face. Average to pretty body. Average to okay personality (not very talkative or friendly). Everything was average separately, but it was one of those sum of all parts is greater than the whole things. The total package was better than average.

Anyhow, I don't know what came over me or her or what, but somehow while she was giving me a CBJ, we went through the whole gamut of upselling and negotiation through some really excruciatingly awkward conversation due to the sensitive subject matter (I've been yelled at and pseudo-banned from one place, pseudo meaning it doesn't matter because the mamasan changed).

Me: ..can I ask you something?
Her: What?
Me: If I ask, you're not going to get mad, right?
Her: What?
Me: You're not going to get mad, right? Don't yell at me?
Her: You're weird. Just ask.
Me: If I give you $100, can you do it with your mouth without the condom?
Her: What? Just do mouth?
Me: And sex.
Her: Mouth? No-condom? Then sex? Condom?
Me: Yes. I'll give you $100. Can you do it with your mouth without the condom?
Her: Of course, for $100, I have to!

She then whipped off the condom and proceeded to give me a BBBJ. I've had plenty of BBBJ's before (from personal life to AMPs to escorts), but hers has to be one of the best in my opinion. Just wet enough to be warm and enjoyable, but not too sloppy (I hate it when girls give a BJ with too much spit). She was also able to take it all the way without any teeth scraping, which is something I really hate.

Once again, proof that I have not learned from previous mistakes.

Me: How about down there?
Her: No.
Me: Not even for $100 more?
Her: No. How do you know I don't have a disease. I don't even do that with my boyfriend.
Me: Okay.
Her: Never.

Some more BBBJ. This went on for a while before another awkward conversation came up.

Her: Ready? (for sex)
Me: Does that mean you won't do it with your mouth again? (unsure because the bbbj is so good)
Her: What?
Me: I mean, if I put it in you, will you not do it with your mouth again?
Her: Huh? What do you want?
Me: Will you still suck me after we do it for a little bit?
Her: Huh. Okay. Let me get more towel.

She went out and brought more towels, but my dick died. So she just gave me some more BBBJ to cheer me up. But since now I knew she would give me more BBBJ after penetration, I asked her to stop. So she put on the condom and on she went. She did some nice cowgirl but she stopped entirely too fast and told me to get on top, but I wasn't going to complain.

While banging away, I dove in for some kissing. She did not evade. I doubt she was wooed by my ugly mug so it's definitely because of the tip she knew was going to ensue. Stuck my tongue into her mouth and we kissed pretty passionately.

I was about to cum way too fast so I pulled out.

Me: Shit.. I'm about to cum already.
Her: Haha. You know, us girls' goal is to make customer cum fast.
Me: Well not me. It's expensive.
Her: Haha. That is true.
Me: Shit.

She just waited patiently and did not put up a fuss, once again most likely due to the ensuing tip. Then I stuck it back in her for some more pumping and began kissing her again. And once again more awkward conversation.

Me: Where am I allowed to cum?
Her: Where do you want to?
Me: Everywhere.
Her: Everywhere is fine except for neck up.
Me: Even for $100 more?
Her: No! If it gets in my eye, I might get a disease.
Me: Oh, okay.

Some more banging. More kissing.

Me: How about in your mouth?
Her: Are you crazy! For $100! $300 total! ($100 standard tip + $100 for bbbj + $100 for cim)
Me: Eh.

More banging. She then started to make some noise. She was acting, but at least she was giving effort in her acting.

Me: How about for $50?
Her: Okay.
Me: Okay, do it now.

Off I go and she takes off the condom, wipes me down with a hot towel, and starts giving me more of that deep, wet but not too wet BBBJ. I'm in heaven.

Now let me preface this with: I HATE DATY. Licking the pussy of girlfriends in my personal life disgusts me, and licking the pussy of a working girl disgusts me even more. Not to mention she had already lubed herself up when we went for the sex.

But for some reason, I spun her around and just dove into her pussy. Now, I'm not a DATY expert, and I think this is maybe the third time I've ever done it, but her pussy tasted sweet. She must've used some sort of flavored lube.

Anyway, after a couple of minutes of this, I realized I hated DATY and raised her ass and watched her just pumping my cock with her throat. I used my arms to raise and lower her lower back to guide the pace and then I blew. She sucked it all up before getting up briskly and spitting it all into a towel.

She then took another towel and wiped my mouth off.

I don't know if I'm just remembering wrong or not, but this was honestly the second time I've ever felt that my dick was truly drained. The first time being when I lost my virginity. You know how you feel after you take the perfect deep shit that doesn't tear your anus. Or how you feel after you drink some cold water after playing some basketball on a hot day. Or how you feel after a good Thanksgiving meal.

It was like that. My dick was truly content and satisfied.

So while I popped out my wallet and gave her $250 (Plus $60 = $310 total... Ouch.), another conversation came up.

Me: You're going to talk bad about me after I leave, right?
Her: No! How can I? None of the other girls can know or they'll talk bad about me.
Me: Okay.
Her: If you ever do this again... With another girl... Don't talk about me? Okay? Don't say that I did it.
Me: Okay.

If you've seen my posts, you know I do BBBJ, facials, and BBFS. But this was truly my most satisfying experience and I don't even regret the huge hit my wallet took for a 40-minute AMP visit.

Anyhow, I then went home and jerked off to some porn that had finished downloading while I was at the AMP. Then I went to spend the night with my AMP mistress where before we went to sleep, I had her give me a blowjob and some deep rimming before she sucked and swallowed every last drop of my cum, though I have to admit I did not really squirt that much (normally she spits, and by normally, I mean she only swallowed my cum once before when I begged her to). Then we fell asleep.

Speaking of which, I want to add on that I had anal sex for the first time (it was also her first time) with my older AMP mistress during the month of December. Took a while and a lot of lube but once I got it in there, it felt good, but definitely not for her. She was trembling with fear and her face looked to be in a lot of pain.

I did not do a lot of thrusting as it was tight enough and just some wiggling was enough to get me off. Had anal sex with her just once more and some more of the same. This time I filmed it but she deleted it saying that everything looked good except her face since she was scared/hurting.

Oh well, next time.

Propilot
01-04-08, 23:12
I am so sorry to post this information so late. Went to Supra around 10:00 pm on 1/1/2008. Only two girls were working Mimi and Eva. Eva was busy so Mimi was assigned to me. Mimi was not very attractive and she was not quite my type. She also had a lumpy lip. I really do not know what that was about. Anyway, I asked for Ruby. Mimi told me that her and Ruby were real good friends. Mimi stated that Ruby was on vacation and would not be returning. After telling her that Ruby was my favorite and that I had been with Ruby a coupla of times, she stated that there may be a possibility that Ruby would come back. I could not tell if she was telling the truth or not. I think these girls go on vacation for a month. If they do not come back after a month, they usually do not come back.


Propilot-over and out.

LoveLOS
01-05-08, 00:12
Lo and behold, my same Nana! We both laughed, I got some kisses, and off we went...That explains a lot...

Thank you. LL

Lex, I'll let you post a link to your own posts just below in Reports of Distinction (please). I get tired of being the only one who uses that thread as a favorites list for great information posted in these archives.

I usually point visitors who ask me for info to that thread as an easy way to get a feel for how DC works in less than an hour. It takes away the lame excuses because it is like a table of contents...

Anyway, good read.
LL

Member #1682
01-05-08, 02:27
"You know how you feel after you take the perfect deep shit that doesn't tear your anus."

I haven't posted in a lonnng time since the action has seriously died down in my neck of the woods...but the above quote truly had me Laughing Out Loud. :)

Thankfully, I'm doing some work up in YOUR neck of the works (shame about the Wisconsin Ave raid. Didn't even know about the place and I work just a few blocks away) and may have start posting more when I get the itch! :P

Crazy Dick
01-05-08, 12:04
Guys 20 January is Nation Korean American Day. We should all do our part to put a little more American in Koreans on that day. I don’t think I’ll be able to make it on the 20th. But I will try to late celebrations on the 21st and combine National Korean Day and MLK day.
Crazy Dick

LexLuther
01-05-08, 12:39
LoveLOS,

Thanks so much. I appreciate the sentiment, especially coming from you. But I don't think a gentleman should claim one of his own reports as being worthy of that title. I try to post truthful information that is helpful to hobbyists and providers alike. As you know, one of my constant themes is that providers are human beings doing a tough job and that they should be treated with respect. I've known a number of providers personally and I have the greatest respect for these ladies.

In this American society of ours, none of us is very far from destitution, homelessness, or the kind of desperate circumstances which could cause us to have to do something distasteful to earn our living. So we should not disrespect a woman who sells her pussy in order to eat or to support her loved ones.

There's so much practical information on this board about who's hot, the best AMP's, how much it cost a particular dude to get his rocks off, etc. I feel that I can serve a higher purpose by constantly reminding people how to treat AMP workers.

LexLuther

Sashimi
01-06-08, 00:39
"You don't seem to understand the AMP business model. As RM astutely points out, the AMP workers are not pizzas or toothpaste. In fact they are more like independent contractors. Sometimes they don't even get the whole tip but must share it with the "house."


"When you pay the $100 tip, the $100 doesn't go to the mamasan.
Hahaa!! Heheehe!!! I'm a business guru!!!!"

Some sort of disconnect here on sharing of tip with the mamasan. The only agreement I can see is that you both profess to be business geniuses, but I have to give you both a no confidence vote on your business acumen.

LexLuther
01-06-08, 09:02
OK Sashimi. Let's hear how you think it works. Then we can all decide how much credence to give to what you say.

LexLuther

Rejected Monke
01-06-08, 09:56
Some sort of disconnect here on sharing of tip with the mamasan. The only agreement I can see is that you both profess to be business geniuses, but I have to give you both a no confidence vote on your business acumen.

This is why you're just digging yourself a deeper hole.

No one professed to be a business genius except YOU.

When it's been confirmed that you were talking out of your ass, you continue to make stupid snide remarks and try to pick at semantics instead of defending your dumbass TEWFERONE post. $100 goes to girl. Sometimes girl has to give portion for kitchen mama, food, tip to mamasan, whatever.

Get it?

No, probably not, as demonstrated by your inability to read simple paragraphs in English. Maybe we should get an AMP girl to read over and explain our posts to you. Probably has a better grasp of the language than a stupid monger.

Jake Jj 1492
01-06-08, 11:40
I was going to reserve my 200th post for an action report, but, I have to commend LexLuther (and Rejected Monke in a supporting role) for the clear and concise explanation of the business and how thing work.

As you both say, for whatever reason, these girls have chosen this path...and they do so at great personal risk. They don't get medical, dental, etc...it's all out of pocket. Transportation as well is all out of pocket (and they have to pay full price on things like air fare, etc.). If there are any "troubles" in the AMPs, often times their money and belongings are confiscated and never returned...even if no charges are filed.

Hopefully everyone here understands that these ladies are human beings, but, in my opinion, they are exceptional human beings. How many people do you know that would risk so much to pursue the American Dream?


My hat's off to all of you that treat the ladies with respect...

P.S. - Max, your inquiry that spurred this discussion was a good one, so you deserve some credit too...but next time, go to the ATM! LOL

A John
01-06-08, 13:01
Personally I think this was a extremely well put 200 action report! You couldn't be more right.
Thanks for your compassion and understanding of the very hard business.

Happy Hunting
AJ



I was going to reserve my 200th post for an action report, but, I have to commend LexLuther (and Rejected Monke in a supporting role) for the clear and concise explanation of the business and how thing work.

As you both say, for whatever reason, these girls have chosen this path...and they do so at great personal risk. They don't get medical, dental, etc...it's all out of pocket. Transportation as well is all out of pocket (and they have to pay full price on things like air fare, etc.). If there are any "troubles" in the AMPs, often times their money and belongings are confiscated and never returned...even if no charges are filed.

Hopefully everyone here understands that these ladies are human beings, but, in my opinion, they are exceptional human beings. How many people do you know that would risk so much to pursue the American Dream?


My hat's off to all of you that treat the ladies with respect...

P.S. - Max, your inquiry that spurred this discussion was a good one, so you deserve some credit too...but next time, go to the ATM! LOL

LexLuther
01-06-08, 13:18
Jake JJ 1492, Rejected Monke, LoveLOS, and all other human beings out there in the ether,

It's gratifying to know that there are decent guys like you who appreciate the service and sacrifice of the AMP working girls. I just went back and re-read Sashimi's report in which he "visualizes" what a business-minded mamasan might offer. I can imagine that it's hard to have clear vision when you have your head so far up your own arse. My conclusion is that there is no point in trying to explain how things work to a man like that.

It's unfortunate that there are people in this world who choose to ignore reality and instead invent their own. But then I realize that if you look at the world around you what you see is a small percentage of intelligent people with the proper outlook and attitude. Then you have the great masses of unwashed, unintelligent, analphabet, shit-eating cretins. There must be a reason for that.

I guess the one saving grace for the few of us with our heads screwed on right is that the laws of economics are at work in our hobby as well as everywhere else we look. Guys like Sashimi are eventually going to become victims of their own ignorance and lack of grace. If he keeps at this hobby long enough, eventually he'll piss off the wrong working girl, the wrong mamasan, the wrong SW's pimp.

I'd like to share a story with you all. I was in Hawaii for a few weeks in December. One evening I paid a visit to a typical AMP in Pearl City. Mamasan took the house fee and explained to me that she was sure I understood that I needed to properly take care of my provider. The gal I drew was just beautiful. After a perfunctory massage, she informed me that the charge for FS was $150.00. I had not been to Pearl City in a while, and while I was fairly certain the tariff in Honolulu was about $100.00 I was not sure it was not higher in P.C. I gave the girl all the U.S. cash I had which was about $120.00 including about $20.00 in singles. She returned the $20.00 to me so I would not be completely broke.

During what followed, she told me she was leaving for Korea on Christmas day. I realized that I had about $50.00 in Korean Won left in my wallet from my last trip to Korea in Sept. So after we were done, I gave her the Korean Won. The smile on her face was worth far more than what I had given her in total. She was a sweet, beautiful young woman and she appreciated that someone had been kind to her.

Now $50.00 in Won will not last long in Korea and I'm sure she understood that as much as I did. But I walked out of there feeling good about the world and myself. I wonder how Sashimi feels when he leaves an AMP.

LexLuther

Dcplay
01-06-08, 14:04
Hi all,

I'm a first time poster as you will all will probably be able to tell. I have frequented 1413 many times and have been looking to expand my horizons recently. Last night I went to 1333 and had a lackluster experience that I wanted to share to see if it was the norm:

Went in, was asked if it was my first time there and I responded "yes." Girl came to greet me in my room (not all that great, 6 in terms of looks, but was older and could have been in better shape), and told me it was 60 for massage, shower, and suana. I agreed, thinking that "more" would come later. After all was said and done, all I got was a JO, even though I was basically asking for more.

Is this the norm for 1333? Does anything else ever happen there? Or was I not asking the right questions?

A John
01-06-08, 14:40
These ladies for the most part are very different in many ways than any American Lady you will ever meet. When your kind they key in on that, do you really think as little girls this is what they dreamed of growing up to be? Not not at all! This is just where their choices have taken them.

I don't know about anybody here but I've made a lot of choices I wasn't too happy with. Some harder to get out of then others. I have never done anything knowingly to hurt or disrespect any provider.

For me it`s just easier to go in the grocery store say hello how are you and be sociable to the teller, rather than walk up spit on the floor, coughing with my mouth open, snorting through my nose talking about how much is it.

Bottom line is you can give what you don't possess!

Some people just never been taught decent morals, or maybe choose not to utilize them.

The sad thing is he probably doesn't and maybe he and many other dirt bags here, will never understand the joy of giving. Even if it's something as small as bringing a smile to someone else's face

On the other hand people such as yourself will never be lonely and your legacy will live forever.

Something said to me very early on in life.

"The only thing you really have is your dignity".

So if your word is not worth anything then you aren't worth shit!

Another compassionate hobbyist
AJ



Jake JJ 1492, Rejected Monke, LoveLOS, and all other human beings out there in the ether,

It's gratifying to know that there are decent guys like you who appreciate the service and sacrifice of the AMP working girls. I just went back and re-read Sashimi's report in which he "visualizes" what a business-minded mamasan might offer. I can imagine that it's hard to have clear vision when you have your head so far up your own arse. My conclusion is that there is no point in trying to explain how things work to a man like that.

It's unfortunate that there are people in this world who choose to ignore reality and instead invent their own. But then I realize that if you look at the world around you what you see is a small percentage of intelligent people with the proper outlook and attitude. Then you have the great masses of unwashed, unintelligent, analphabet, shit-eating cretins. There must be a reason for that.

I guess the one saving grace for the few of us with our heads screwed on right is that the laws of economics are at work in our hobby as well as everywhere else we look. Guys like Sashimi are eventually going to become victims of their own ignorance and lack of grace. If he keeps at this hobby long enough, eventually he'll piss off the wrong working girl, the wrong mamasan, the wrong SW's pimp.

I'd like to share a story with you all. I was in Hawaii for a few weeks in December. One evening I paid a visit to a typical AMP in Pearl City. Mamasan took the house fee and explained to me that she was sure I understood that I needed to properly take care of my provider. The gal I drew was just beautiful. After a perfunctory massage, she informed me that the charge for FS was $150.00. I had not been to Pearl City in a while, and while I was fairly certain the tariff in Honolulu was about $100.00 I was not sure it was not higher in P.C. I gave the girl all the U.S. cash I had which was about $120.00 including about $20.00 in singles. She returned the $20.00 to me so I would not be completely broke.

During what followed, she told me she was leaving for Korea on Christmas day. I realized that I had about $50.00 in Korean Won left in my wallet from my last trip to Korea in Sept. So after we were done, I gave her the Korean Won. The smile on her face was worth far more than what I had given her in total. She was a sweet, beautiful young woman and she appreciated that someone had been kind to her.

Now $50.00 in Won will not last long in Korea and I'm sure she understood that as much as I did. But I walked out of there feeling good about the world and myself. I wonder how Sashimi feels when he leaves an AMP.

LexLuther

LexLuther
01-06-08, 15:06
A John,

Thanks and I had you in mind too in my last post as one of the decent guys!

And you are too right about choices. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and bad choices and become better human beings. What if the only thing we take out of this world when we die is our character? Kind of makes it worth developing a good one. It may be that in pursuing this hobby we are all damned. Or it may be that we are just exercising our God-given sexuality in a way different from others.

But I do think that no matter how depraved any of us are, sex is somehow related to love and kindness and generosity are part of love. It's like any of the other little vices to which human kind is subject. If you can't afford to gamble you should not gamble. If you can't afford to monger properly, don't monger. Otherwise you are just a fool who can't control his impulses and behavior.


LexLuther

Pcpc1688
01-06-08, 20:55
Had Candy today, Nice 36DD rack and nice personality too. Very sweet and tasty if I do say myself. hehe She will be here till March.

8888 across the board. Will repeat cause she wants to be Ms PC soon. :)

PC out

Junky11
01-07-08, 00:32
A John,

Thanks and I had you in mind too in my last post as one of the decent guys!

And you are too right about choices. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes and bad choices and become better human beings. What if the only thing we take out of this world when we die is our character? Kind of makes it worth developing a good one. It may be that in pursuing this hobby we are all damned. Or it may be that we are just exercising our God-given sexuality in a way different from others.

But I do think that no matter how depraved any of us are, sex is somehow related to love and kindness and generosity are part of love. It's like any of the other little vices to which human kind is subject. If you can't afford to gamble you should not gamble. If you can't afford to monger properly, don't monger. Otherwise you are just a fool who can't control his impulses and behavior.


LexLuther

There are a lot of providers that have had it bad and don't need more shit from drunken asshole mongers. A little kindness goes a long way, but like in any profession you have providers who are incompetent and don't deserve the $$$ they are paid.

Marlo
01-07-08, 05:15
Hey fellow Mongers. Been out of touch for a while due to the job. But I get back into town and needed a fix. So I headed out to make the climb to the 4rth floor. Mamasan showed me a line up. As she only had three available for my 330am call. So I chose this slim, tall, big B cup to occupy my time.

Shower was decent and although she spent some time cleaning my asian area, I was not afforded that seemingly lost art of receiving some Asian pleasure. Nevertheless, the time spent with her was great! We did the DATY, while her almost uncovered BJ was very good. We covered all positions except cowgirl. But what turned me on the most is that she provided me with some DFKing. That did it for me! Whew! 8s across the board.

LoveLOS
01-07-08, 05:57
Hi all,

I'm a first time poster as you will all will probably be able to tell. I have frequented 1413 many times and have been looking to expand my horizons recently. Last night I went to 1333 and had a lackluster experience that I wanted to share to see if it was the norm:

Went in, was asked if it was my first time there and I responded "yes." Girl came to greet me in my room (not all that great, 6 in terms of looks, but was older and could have been in better shape), and told me it was 60 for massage, shower, and suana. I agreed, thinking that "more" would come later. After all was said and done, all I got was a JO, even though I was basically asking for more.

Is this the norm for 1333? Does anything else ever happen there? Or was I not asking the right questions?DCPlayboy,
Welcome to the machine. I had to giggle. We have all been there and fucked up. You smelled of newbie, and made some basic rookie mistakes; therefore you got a HJ (I assumed JO=Jerk Off?). I am not going to elaborate more since I would rather teach you to fish than give you a fish.

Here is your homework: Read the forum. The answers to your questions, your errors, and more is there for you. Read, learn, apply, enjoy, post, repeat.

Two questions for you: What was the name of your provider, her performance is expected given your goofs, but your description of her makes me want to know who NOT to ask for. Any faves at 1413 you wish to post about? JJJake,
Can you still edit your post? I am sure some readers will enjoy your observations regarding a recent but unofficial RT...

LL

LexLuther
01-07-08, 09:34
Junky11,

It's true that you will run across providers who have either chosen the wrong profession, or who are having a bad day, or maybe they are still new to the job and have not learned how to properly service a gent.

But it still remains true that unless you too are a novice, you should generally know what the tariff is. Or perhaps you agreed to it early on in the session. Whatever, you pay her what you know you are supposed to pay.

If you go in for a haircut and get a new barber who is not so good, is having a bad day, etc. You still pay what is expected. You may not give anything extra, but you pay.

I think the problem is that we call what we give the provider a "tip" and it's not. It's a fee for her service. But since that's illegal and suggests prostitution we call it a tip. But you still have to pay it. If you don't think she "deserves it" then talk to mamasan on your way out, after you have paid. Take her aside and speak with her. If you go back and have embarassed any of the girls, the rest will remember you as an asshole.

It's a credit to the AMP industry that they have learned to ask for the tip up front. Otherwise you'd have all sorts of cheap bastards (who have no business in an AMP) complaining that the girl did not "deserve it." Your proper response, if you got no satisfaction from the girl and none from the mamasan is to either not return, pick a different girl next time, tell others here about your bad experience, RTFF and find an AMP and girl where you think you'll be better served. But you never, ever cheat a working girl. Getting into that habit can be dangerous to your health.

Just keep in mind that what you are doing in an AMP makes you a criminal in the eyes of the law. Making a big deal out of the cost after you have been served is like starting an argument at an illegal gambling establishment or making a big fuss because you have just been sold some bad smack. You should know the risks before you buy. Negotiating before the deal is one thing. You can try to talk the girl down and good luck to you. But once she has done her part, no matter how poorly, you pay what you agreed. Otherwise you're an asshole.

LexLuther

Trying to educate the world of AMP goers, one jerk at a time.

A John
01-07-08, 13:52
Lex,

LMFAO
Good luck brother!

AJ

Junky11
01-07-08, 19:38
Junky11,

It's true that you will run across providers who have either chosen the wrong profession, or who are having a bad day...
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But once she has done her part, no matter how poorly, you pay what you agreed. Otherwise you're an asshole.

LexLuther

Trying to educate the world of AMP goers, one jerk at a time.

I've been at some AMPs where the house fee was paid upfront but the provider did not ask for her fee (call it what it is) until after the service was provided. I've seen only good providers do this (royal), the lousy ones demand the fee up front (supra) and maybe even try to talk the price up. I have never, nor would ever, take advantage of this situation.

Member #4338
01-07-08, 21:26
I have to say, gentlemen, that the discussions on this board lately have been interesting (mildly) but somewhat philosophical. I propose we return to business at hand.

In that regard, I report on my recent experiences down Rio way. I am a sucker (literally) for AMP girls with short hair. Cookie fits the bill, very nicely thank you very much ;) For whatever reason, this girl really floats my boat.

Peace and love,

Lax

Toshiosamma
01-08-08, 01:57
I've been at some AMPs where the house fee was paid upfront but the provider did not ask for her fee (call it what it is) until after the service was provided. ...This happened to me at two AMPs on the same day in Reading, PA, and never any other time or place. Both providers were good, but not extraordinary.

Ginger Man
01-08-08, 18:28
I wonder if the Cookie at Rio is the same that used to work in New World and other spas here a couple of years ago. I once sort of knew her....

Implants? That would be a key.

Rejected Monke
01-08-08, 19:06
I wonder if the Cookie at Rio is the same that used to work in New World and other spas here a couple of years ago. I once sort of knew her....

Implants? That would be a key.

Or is she the same Cookie that was at Supra just a couple of weeks ago?

Jake Jj 1492
01-08-08, 20:01
Or is she the same Cookie that was at Supra just a couple of weeks ago?
Is she a sugar cookie, chocolate chip, or oatmeal raisin? Or perhaps, a fortune cookie? If she's a snickerdoodle, I'm in for all you can eat...

Tofer
01-08-08, 22:05
Long-time lurker, first post.

Went the other day to Grn (you know, near where the other team plays). The sauna was nice, it was freezing cold that day. But the masseuse ("Candy") was eh, late 30s at best, a pooch, kinda phoning it in. Not bad.- hey, to be bad, it has to be really bad, right? But not great.

Worth noting she let me do doggy, but when I did mish, she had her hand in the way slightly, to prevent me from going in too much. BJ had too much teeth, too. Tho the massage was decent (back only). A pooch.- I'm reasonable, but this was more of a pooch than one would like. Face not great, nothing to write home about.

To make it worse, when I got done my clothes smelled like smoke, from the room next door. My masseuse did not smoke, but someone in that place was.

I went there bec. There were some great reports on here a few months ago, maybe October, about the place. But when I went back then, the masseuse was similarly not so great looking. I ended up leaving and not closing the deal at all back then, and now, I understand why.

Ave been a regular at Supra of late, and now I remember why. Fine young masseuses. Was interested in a switch-up, so hence Green, but now I'll have to try somewhere else.

Have a long line of mini-reports to drop off. Have also tried what I guess is Gold's.- 1829/2F I think (I started at the 3rd floor, no good choice on offer, started for 2nd floor and they said "same thing there. " Masseuse very ligth brown tan (fake tan, but not bad); fake blonde hair (again, not bad). But masseuse was fake boobs, wd not let me doggy, barely let me in even when she was on top. Also, no TS, and hustled me to leave when I was done.

Had a great exp at the old place on I at around 17th. Still walk past there to see if it might reopen, as some kind of late-Christmas surprise. The masseuse gave me some a**-action with a lubed-up finger, which I did not expect but turned out better than all right, and then kept working that while giving me a BJ, which was surprisingly super super great in combination. Took massive effort to hold back on that, in order to wait for the dog/mish. Of course, this was when the ladies were still taking me for approx $250 total.- I was younger and less wise then. Also, this one ended up occasionally coughing and spitting into a tissue, which was pretty disconcerting.- made me want to go get tested.

In the non-adventure category, include brief walk-ins to 1413 (the first-floor there smelled of mold, so I excused myself), and brief walk-ins to 520 and 524. The southerly one of those two seemed dismal somehow, so I left (again, was more innocent back then). The next, more northerly one, had a massuese whose face was not so good. She came into the room, tried to lure me to stay by strategically placing the boobs at eye level as I sat, even as the mamasan asked me, "you want, I get another girl. " But I left and went to. Supra.

Supra remains my recommendation, unless something has changed. Latetly it has been so good that they give me a full line-up of 4-5 total hotties. Didn't know whether to go blind or what. If I could have asked for a pile of all of them, in one room, I would.

Previous adventures at Supra include Mya in November (great English, as hasd been mentioned; good sense of humor; tall; handled me well and with restraint even as I was basically too d**** to f***, not my usual at all); a tiny spinner, exquisite face with high cheekbones and with fake but nice Cs who came real nicely during doggy, very sweet; she smoked and you could smell it on her hair but it was not a problem; a pale tallish one who it turned had stuffed her bra with tissues, but that turned out okay, as her BJ sent her own little forearms into goosebumps, and then we doggied for a really, really long time, and she got into it well; this tiny, cute little thing who opened my door and I was so stunned I did not think she was the masseuse so I asked for a lineup and she sent in another girl and I asked for her, explained my confusion as best I could.- she had a perfect, perfect waist (perfect for doggy too) who said she was 21 and this time I really believed it; and my first-ever at Supra, who taught me about when you need to take a shower: AFTER the act, so you go home clean and fine. She also warned me about pursuing this hobby every few days, said it drains away your $.

Yours in the hobby,

Tofer

Tofer
01-08-08, 22:46
Long-time lurker, first post.

Went the other day to Grn (you know, near where the other team plays). The sauna was nice, it was freezing cold that day. But the masseuse ("Candy") was eh, late 30s at best, a pooch, kinda phoning it in. Not bad.- hey, to be bad, it has to be really bad, right? But not great.

Worth noting she let me do doggy, but when I did mish, she had her hand in the way slightly, to prevent me from going in too much. BJ had too much teeth, too. Tho the massage was decent (back only). A pooch.- I'm reasonable, but this was more of a pooch than one would like. Face not great, nothing to write home about.

To make it worse, when I got done my clothes smelled like smoke, from the room next door. My masseuse did not smoke, but someone in that place was.

I went there bec. There were some great reports on here a few months ago, maybe October, about the place. But when I went back then, the masseuse was similarly not so great looking. I ended up leaving and not closing the deal at all back then, and now, I understand why.

Ave been a regular at Supra of late, and now I remember why. Fine young masseuses. Was interested in a switch-up, so hence Green, but now I'll have to try somewhere else.

Have a long line of mini-reports to drop off. Have also tried what I guess is Gold's.- 1829/2F I think (I started at the 3rd floor, no good choice on offer, started for 2nd floor and they said "same thing there. " Masseuse very ligth brown tan (fake tan, but not bad); fake blonde hair (again, not bad). But masseuse was fake boobs, wd not let me doggy, barely let me in even when she was on top. Also, no TS, and hustled me to leave when I was done.

Had a great exp at the old place on I at around 17th. Still walk past there to see if it might reopen, as some kind of late-Christmas surprise. The masseuse gave me some a**-action with a lubed-up finger, which I did not expect but turned out better than all right, and then kept working that while giving me a BJ, which was surprisingly super super great in combination. Took massive effort to hold back on that, in order to wait for the dog/mish. Of course, this was when the ladies were still taking me for approx $250 total.- I was younger and less wise then. Also, this one ended up occasionally coughing and spitting into a tissue, which was pretty disconcerting.- made me want to go get tested.

In the non-adventure category, include brief walk-ins to 1413 (the first-floor there smelled of mold, so I excused myself), and brief walk-ins to 520 and 524. The southerly one of those two seemed dismal somehow, so I left (again, was more innocent back then). The next, more northerly one, had a massuese whose face was not so good. She came into the room, tried to lure me to stay by strategically placing the boobs at eye level as I sat, even as the mamasan asked me, "you want, I get another girl. " But I left and went to. Supra.

Supra remains my recommendation, unless something has changed. Latetly it has been so good that they give me a full line-up of 4-5 total hotties. Didn't know whether to go blind or what. If I could have asked for a pile of all of them, in one room, I would.

Previous adventures at Supra include Mya in November (great English, as hasd been mentioned; good sense of humor; tall; handled me well and with restraint even as I was basically too d**** to f***, not my usual at all); a tiny spinner, exquisite face with high cheekbones and with fake but nice Cs who came real nicely during doggy, very sweet; she smoked and you could smell it on her hair but it was not a problem; a pale tallish one who it turned had stuffed her bra with tissues, but that turned out okay, as her BJ sent her own little forearms into goosebumps, and then we doggied for a really, really long time, and she got into it well; this tiny, cute little thing who opened my door and I was so stunned I did not think she was the masseuse so I asked for a lineup and she sent in another girl and I asked for her, explained my confusion as best I could.- she had a perfect, perfect waist (perfect for doggy too) who said she was 21 and this time I really believed it; and my first-ever at Supra, who taught me about when you need to take a shower: AFTER the act, so you go home clean and fine. She also warned me about pursuing this hobby every few days, said it drains away your $.

Yours in the hobby,

Tofer

Jack B Nimble
01-09-08, 11:25
I think we all appreciate the reports sincerely, and welcome to the community. But as you may gather, fresher is always better in this matter. Few of the girls hang around more than a few weeks now, and some places that may have been open at the time might not be. So thanks for the effort but it would be nicer to have more up-to-date info


Long-time lurker, first post

Went the other day to Grn (you know, near where the other team plays). The sauna was nice, it was freezing cold that day. But the masseuse ("Candy") was eh, late 30s at best, a pooch, kinda phoning it in. Not bad.- hey, to be bad, it has to be really bad, right? But not great.

Worth noting she let me do doggy, but when I did mish, she had her hand in the way slightly, to prevent me from going in too much. BJ had too much teeth, too. Tho the massage was decent (back only). A pooch.- I'm reasonable, but this was more of a pooch than one would like. Face not great, nothing to write home about.

To make it worse, when I got done my clothes smelled like smoke, from the room next door. My masseuse did not smoke, but someone in that place was.

I went there bec. There were some great reports on here a few months ago, maybe October, about the place. But when I went back then, the masseuse was similarly not so great looking. I ended up leaving and not closing the deal at all back then, and now, I understand why.

Ave been a regular at Supra of late, and now I remember why. Fine young masseuses. Was interested in a switch-up, so hence Green, but now I'll have to try somewhere else.

Have a long line of mini-reports to drop off. Have also tried what I guess is Gold's.- 1829/2F I think (I started at the 3rd floor, no good choice on offer, started for 2nd floor and they said "same thing there. " Masseuse very ligth brown tan (fake tan, but not bad); fake blonde hair (again, not bad). But masseuse was fake boobs, wd not let me doggy, barely let me in even when she was on top. Also, no TS, and hustled me to leave when I was done.

Had a great exp at the old place on I at around 17th. Still walk past there to see if it might reopen, as some kind of late-Christmas surprise. The masseuse gave me some a**-action with a lubed-up finger, which I did not expect but turned out better than all right, and then kept working that while giving me a BJ, which was surprisingly super super great in combination. Took massive effort to hold back on that, in order to wait for the dog/mish. Of course, this was when the ladies were still taking me for approx $250 total.- I was younger and less wise then. Also, this one ended up occasionally coughing and spitting into a tissue, which was pretty disconcerting.- made me want to go get tested.

In the non-adventure category, include brief walk-ins to 1413 (the first-floor there smelled of mold, so I excused myself), and brief walk-ins to 520 and 524. The southerly one of those two seemed dismal somehow, so I left (again, was more innocent back then). The next, more northerly one, had a massuese whose face was not so good. She came into the room, tried to lure me to stay by strategically placing the boobs at eye level as I sat, even as the mamasan asked me, "you want, I get another girl. " But I left and went to. Supra.

Supra remains my recommendation, unless something has changed. Latetly it has been so good that they give me a full line-up of 4-5 total hotties. Didn't know whether to go blind or what. If I could have asked for a pile of all of them, in one room, I would.

Previous adventures at Supra include Mya in November (great English, as hasd been mentioned; good sense of humor; tall; handled me well and with restraint even as I was basically too d**** to f***, not my usual at all); a tiny spinner, exquisite face with high cheekbones and with fake but nice Cs who came real nicely during doggy, very sweet; she smoked and you could smell it on her hair but it was not a problem; a pale tallish one who it turned had stuffed her bra with tissues, but that turned out okay, as her BJ sent her own little forearms into goosebumps, and then we doggied for a really, really long time, and she got into it well; this tiny, cute little thing who opened my door and I was so stunned I did not think she was the masseuse so I asked for a lineup and she sent in another girl and I asked for her, explained my confusion as best I could.- she had a perfect, perfect waist (perfect for doggy too) who said she was 21 and this time I really believed it; and my first-ever at Supra, who taught me about when you need to take a shower: AFTER the act, so you go home clean and fine. She also warned me about pursuing this hobby every few days, said it drains away your $.

Yours in the hobby,

Tofer

Pheonixzero13
01-09-08, 16:17
It might be just me, but am I the only one that thinks that the D. C AMP activity has been faltering lately? . What I mean to say is that things are not as good as before. It's like the magic that was there when 2006 was around seems to be going astray, the girls are beggining to suck big time. I took some time to visit Rio, 14k, 520, Supra, and green last week and I feel a feeling of displacement in my gut. Like if D. C AMP's are dying out. I'm beginning to get worried. Anyone feel the same way?

Original Gster
01-10-08, 11:20
I haven't been reporting is a while due to access issues, but I made a visit to Gold back in mid-December that I needed to report on. I saw Mia who was a superstar and had not been in DC for very long. She was definitely one of the top quality providers I've had in a year or so. Her attitude was nice, her engrish was pretty good, and her looks were top notch. She was slender with great legs, very long hair, and a great a$$. Medium size upgrades up top were a little hard, but they looked great. Gold is always a jackson more than other local establishments, but for better quality I have no problem with that. Their shower was broken, so it was directly to the massagi. That was adequate, but after the flip was outstanding. The cbj was so good I was ready to lose it, so I had her remove the cover and finish me by hand while I stimulated her. I could've gone for fs, but she was so hot that it would have been over way too quick. It had been a while for me (I should know better than to go in there with a loaded weapon). Overall it was a solid experience. I haven't been able to get back there, so I have no idea if she is still there.

Happy New Year,

OG

Jack B Nimble
01-10-08, 11:45
We have been on a downward slope since Black Wednesday (18 months ago?) with only a few bright spots since. But if you have experiences to share good or bad, please do so.


It might be just me, but am I the only one that thinks that the D. C AMP activity has been faltering lately? . What I mean to say is that things are not as good as before. It's like the magic that was there when 2006 was around seems to be going astray, the girls are beggining to suck big time. I took some time to visit Rio, 14k, 520, Supra, and green last week and I feel a feeling of displacement in my gut. Like if D. C AMP's are dying out. I'm beginning to get worried. Anyone feel the same way?

Rejected Monke
01-10-08, 11:57
It might be just me, but am I the only one that thinks that the D. C AMP activity has been faltering lately? . What I mean to say is that things are not as good as before. It's like the magic that was there when 2006 was around seems to be going astray, the girls are beggining to suck big time. I took some time to visit Rio, 14k, 520, Supra, and green last week and I feel a feeling of displacement in my gut. Like if D. C AMP's are dying out. I'm beginning to get worried. Anyone feel the same way?

Here's my take after talking to one of the girls. So note that this is just one opinion (mixed with mine).

The problem is we're so overly concerned about keeping the rates down while pissing and moaning if we don't get a full hour that girls are starting to get two impressions about the DC area:

1. Customers are too demanding.
2. Customers are cheapskates.

Combine that with a smaller customer base due to decreased advertising, and also that for some reason, we like to keep the better girls "secret" (thus essentially robbing her of potential tips from new customers), and you've got a mediocre situation in DC.

In California, the AMPs have all died out and girls work at AAMPs where it's $160 for 30 minutes and $200 for the full hour, $60 still being the house fee (so girls make $100 for half hour and $140 for full hour). Meanwhile, check out the reports in Atlanta and Florida to see what kind of shitty service guys are getting (a whole lot worse than what we complain about) while giving up anywhere from $120 at minimum to $200 on top of the house fee. And believe it or not, these girls with "shitty service" are the same girls we used to all fawn over in 2006 about how great their attitude and services were.

Want proof that's more local? Check out these two ads:

http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-cs4-rie1.htm
http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-christine79-christine1.htm

These two girls used to work at DC AMPs in the past. None of us would have had problems giving them straight 9's and 10's across the board. Then they realized, "Hey, this is fucking stupid. Why am I working from 10AM to 4AM, 7 days a week, getting $100 per customer just like that ugly hag over there?"

While I'm not so sure they are worth $250 or $300 per hour, I know they were definitely worth more than $160.

Solution? If there is a girl you like, tip her more.

$100 is the minimum. Not the maximum. There's no reason that a younger spinner with a good personality should get paid the same as an older, fatter lady. Unless you want to be stubborn and believe you're "keeping prices down".

Don't be misinformed and think that you're doing the rest of us a favor by "keeping prices down". No, you're doing the complete opposite. You're helping to drive a girl away to better opportunities in other places. It doesn't have even have to be that much as we have the advantage over Atlanta and Florida in terms of location (girls get to save on transportation costs). Tip just $20 more if you see a hot girl. I guarantee you that if each and every one of us tipped just one extra Jackson, suddenly we'd have the hottest and best girls again.

Also make sure to spread the word about any lovely girls you might meet. You're not just helping the rest of us, you're doing a direct favor to the girl herself who came to DC to make money, not to just service you, and only you, a couple of times a week.

Check out the AMPs in Detroit or Chicago if you want to see how far DC could potentially fall. There's a reason that the girls who work in massage parlors in those cities and rural areas are a lot uglier than the ones who used to work in DC that currently work in New York, California, Atlanta, and Florida.

Think about it. Hint, it's green and made of paper.

Jack B Nimble
01-10-08, 15:41
I have made this point before. When I started in the spa scene AMP prices were what they are today but I saw some escorts in the $175 - 220 range. I think you get the picture. Plus if these girls are sending money back home it may be worth even less due to exchange rates.

In New York there is an active scene with some hot women (only been a couple of times but reviews show this to be the case) with a minimum of $200 and a few girls getting a bit more. I've tried to tip some of my faves a bit extra, think it is still a good value and don't want to be pennywise and pound foolish.



Here's my take after talking to one of the girls. So note that this is just one opinion (mixed with mine).

The problem is we're so overly concerned about keeping the rates down while pissing and moaning if we don't get a full hour that girls are starting to get two impressions about the DC area:

1. Customers are too demanding.
2. Customers are cheapskates.

Combine that with a smaller customer base due to decreased advertising, and also that for some reason, we like to keep the better girls "secret" (thus essentially robbing her of potential tips from new customers), and you've got a mediocre situation in DC.

In California, the AMPs have all died out and girls work at AAMPs where it's $160 for 30 minutes and $200 for the full hour, $60 still being the house fee (so girls make $100 for half hour and $140 for full hour). Meanwhile, check out the reports in Atlanta and Florida to see what kind of shitty service guys are getting (a whole lot worse than what we complain about) while giving up anywhere from $120 at minimum to $200 on top of the house fee. And believe it or not, these girls with "shitty service" are the same girls we used to all fawn over in 2006 about how great their attitude and services were.

Want proof that's more local? Check out these two ads:

http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-cs4-rie1.htm
http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-christine79-christine1.htm

These two girls used to work at DC AMPs in the past. None of us would have had problems giving them straight 9's and 10's across the board. Then they realized, "Hey, this is fucking stupid. Why am I working from 10AM to 4AM, 7 days a week, getting $100 per customer just like that ugly hag over there?"

While I'm not so sure they are worth $250 or $300 per hour, I know they were definitely worth more than $160.

Solution? If there is a girl you like, tip her more.

$100 is the minimum. Not the maximum. There's no reason that a younger spinner with a good personality should get paid the same as an older, fatter lady. Unless you want to be stubborn and believe you're "keeping prices down".

Don't be misinformed and think that you're doing the rest of us a favor by "keeping prices down". No, you're doing the complete opposite. You're helping to drive a girl away to better opportunities in other places. It doesn't have even have to be that much as we have the advantage over Atlanta and Florida in terms of location (girls get to save on transportation costs). Tip just $20 more if you see a hot girl. I guarantee you that if each and every one of us tipped just one extra Jackson, suddenly we'd have the hottest and best girls again.

Also make sure to spread the word about any lovely girls you might meet. You're not just helping the rest of us, you're doing a direct favor to the girl herself who came to DC to make money, not to just service you, and only you, a couple of times a week.

Check out the AMPs in Detroit or Chicago if you want to see how far DC could potentially fall. There's a reason that the girls who work in massage parlors in those cities and rural areas are a lot uglier than the ones who used to work in DC that currently work in New York, California, Atlanta, and Florida.

Think about it. Hint, it's green and made of paper.

VanDriver
01-10-08, 16:34
RM and Jack:

I know this is in the wrong section, but the previous report touched on her ad on another site.

Do you guys have first hand knowledge of Busty Rie's exploits? For that matter, does anybody else have the details. My T_R membership ran out and I cannot see the details on the reports.

If so, I'd like them by PM please. She looks like someone from an agency that I could never get through their screening process (not Sky).

Anyway, I'd like some intel on her because I may not be able to resist wasting $ on her large Asian tits!

Van

Sleazebum
01-10-08, 17:09
I have made this point before. When I started in the spa scene AMP prices were what they are today but I saw some escorts in the $175 - 220 range. I think you get the picture. Plus if these girls are sending money back home it may be worth even less due to exchange rates.

In New York there is an active scene with some hot women (only been a couple of times but reviews show this to be the case) with a minimum of $200 and a few girls getting a bit more. I've tried to tip some of my faves a bit extra, think it is still a good value and don't want to be pennywise and pound foolish.

I don't give a damn if it is Miss Korea or Miss Universe providing the services! NO pussy is worth more than $100 - $150 to hit and it will be a much longer time before I shell out that kind of money for it!

The prices are controled by the demand for the services and if you with the deep pockets keep inflating prices then sooner or later the standard will be forced up.

So DO NOT DO IT! If you have so much money to burn then you should go after some of the "porn stars" that show up from time to time and give them the $1,000 to $2,000 per hour they demand.

While we all ARE horny we are NOT all rich like some appear to want others to think they are!

Another option for you Mr Moneybags would be to just take up the slack all on your own with a cash donation for no particular reason to the provider of your choice, just make it clear that the extra tip is NOT for services rendered!

OK - I am done raising hell now.

Peace!

JJ

Rejected Monke
01-10-08, 17:27
Do you guys have first hand knowledge of Busty Rie's exploits? For that matter, does anybody else have the details. My T_R membership ran out and I cannot see the details on the reports.

If so, I'd like them by PM please. She looks like someone from an agency that I could never get through their screening process (not Sky).

I don't know about any agency, but I know for a fact Rie is formerly of Happiness a couple of years back.

She's 100% Japanese, looks young, speaks good English, big natural tits, and pretty face. She's a little thick, but it's definitely not fat. She's patient and nice and lets you do whatever but she doesn't kiss and her routine doesn't let you forget that you're paying for it. Another possible negative is that she has a whole bunch of tattoos on her back.

By the way, what agency are you talking about? You mentioned to me once that Asian Privacy banned you for no reason, but she definitely didn't work there.

Rejected Monke
01-10-08, 17:31
I don't give a damn if it is Miss Korea or Miss Universe providing the services! NO pussy is worth more than $100 - $150 to hit and it will be a much longer time before I shell out that kind of money for it!

The prices are controled by the demand for the services and if you with the deep pockets keep inflating prices then sooner or later the standard will be forced up.

So DO NOT DO IT! If you have so much money to burn then you should go after some of the "porn stars" that show up from time to time and give them the $1,000 to $2,000 per hour they demand.

While we all ARE horny we are NOT all rich like some appear to want others to think they are!

Another option for you Mr Moneybags would be to just take up the slack all on your own with a cash donation for no particular reason to the provider of your choice, just make it clear that the extra tip is NOT for services rendered!

OK - I am done raising hell now.

Peace!

JJ

Sleazebum, I love you man. Seriously.

You are the first person who reported on Sue at Sakura. And you are the one who provided me with intelligence, even though I was a newbie.

With that said, I have to disagree with your entire post. Do you think girls have nowhere else to go but DC so if we just stick to our guns, they'll surrender? There are hot girls in Atlanta. Hot girls in New York. In California. In Florida. But why don't they come to DC anymore? And when they do, why do they leave so soon?

You are being way too paranoid about "keeping prices down" and this is why we are left with either:

1. Mostly average Korean girls in DC.
2. REALLY (and by really, I mean REALLY) ugly and old Chinese condo girls.

You may be satisfied with the Chinese condo judging from your reports, but for the rest of us, that place is a complete dump, and you're still paying $160 (or is it $180 as Low Jack reports?). If we're supposed to be paying $160 for hot Korean girls, the Chinese condo should be charging $40.

Meanwhile, just because some of us are willing to pay an extra $20 for a hot girl doesn't mean we're looking to pay $2000 for a porn star.

Jack B Nimble
01-10-08, 17:45
There are obviously different strokes for different folks, no one formula works for everyone. For me there are a few memorable experiences that stick in my mind (and a few other places) that I cherish. It's true that you can't always tell by the price when you'll have one of those great times but I am willing to pay extra for it. I'm sort of a cheapskate too or prefer to see myself as a 'value' investor. But those memories stay with you longer than the worries about a few extra $$$.



Sleazebum, I love you man. Seriously.

You are the first person who reported on Sue at Sakura. And you are the one who provided me with intelligence, even though I was a newbie.

With that said, I have to disagree with your entire post. Do you think girls have nowhere else to go but DC so if we just stick to our guns, they'll surrender? There are hot girls in Atlanta. Hot girls in New York. In California. In Florida. But why don't they come to DC anymore? And when they do, why do they leave so soon?

You are being way too paranoid about "keeping prices down" and this is why we are left with either:

1. Mostly average Korean girls in DC.
2. REALLY (and by really, I mean REALLY) ugly and old Chinese condo girls.

You may be satisfied with the Chinese condo judging from your reports, but for the rest of us, that place is a complete dump, and you're still paying $160 (or is it $180 as Low Jack reports?). If we're supposed to be paying $160 for hot Korean girls, the Chinese condo should be charging $80.

Meanwhile, just because some of us are willing to pay an extra $20 for a hot girl doesn't mean we're looking to pay $2000 for a porn star.

Rejected Monke
01-10-08, 17:48
There are obviously different strokes for different folks, no one formula works for everyone. For me there are a few memorable experiences that stick in my mind (and a few other places) that I cherish. It's true that you can't always tell by the price when you'll have one of those great times but I am willing to pay extra for it. I'm sort of a cheapskate too or prefer to see myself as a 'value' investor. But those memories stay with you longer than the worries about a few extra $$$.

I'm not rich by any means, either. If things were normal, of course I'd pay only $160. But you'd have to be blind to tell me with the girls now that things are normal. They're not and pretty soon I'm going to have to find a job in another city if DC continues to suck (no pun intended).

As for paying extra $$$... Yeah, I'm not that rich yet LOL. I've only paid over that amount a couple of times, the most recent being for a Latina escort that had stellar reviews. It definitely was not worth it. The other time, it was worth it... But not sure if it was worth repeating.

Anyway, most I'm willing to pay is $250 (with chance of tip if the girl completely blows me away). That could change if I get a raise once my boss' performance reports come back.