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Triple E
12-02-10, 21:52
Anyone have new reports on them? They even open?

I was in the area tonight and they looked dark, but it was hard to tell. There was enough LE presence nearby that I felt smarter bailing.

PM if necessary. I've been dormant for a bit on mongering, so unfortunately I don't have much else to report.

Mmaddmann
12-02-10, 23:19
In town this week, visited Mist based on buzz. Yes, they are still open. IT was 8 pm and I heard a couple other mongers there, but I would not say there was a crowd. Drew Lily. 5'8" 24 yr old cute Korean girl. Said she'd been there 1 week. TS was fine. Skipped massage and went right to the "what do you want? Everything" phase.

Her body, even with implants, was just beautiful- tall, slender, curvy. I love tall thin girls with real womanly hips- not fat just feminine. I loved looking at her body, and in the mirror, and I am trying to keep that image of her in my mind.

Service included usual but after 20 minutes she tried to rush me- "Cmon baby I am tired". That was only part of experience that was not really very nice.

Overall, recommend; a very satisfying experience. .70 + 1. 1

Horsetrader
12-04-10, 11:57
... Skipped massage and went right to the "what do you want? Everything" phase....That is her way of saying "I want your ass out of here quickly." I usually respond with something like "Hard on my back but medium on my hamstrings." That is my way of saying "I want my. 7 massage before the $ extras are considered." Over the years I've learned that presenting the tip too early often leads to a very short massage. Seldom do they come back to the massage after the main event.

Mollusk Man
12-05-10, 02:21
Anyone have new reports on them? They even open?

I was in the area tonight and they looked dark, but it was hard to tell. There was enough LE presence nearby that I felt smarter bailing.

PM if necessary. I've been dormant for a bit on mongering, so unfortunately I don't have much else to report. I called today and mamasun said theyd be open Monday with new therapists. Give it a shot then?

Brutal One
12-05-10, 18:58
Hit mist today for the 2nd time. Rolled the dice and aske MS to bring me anyone. Brought me an older woman, named Jay. Beautiful C cups, but typical korean ass. Fantastic lips also! Due to being advised that specifics are not appreciated on this board, lets just say that I had a great time. Although older, her "skills" were fantastic and very much appreciated. Normal tip.

Hofi35
12-06-10, 08:26
That is her way of saying "I want your ass out of here quickly." I usually respond with something like "Hard on my back but medium on my hamstrings." That is my way of saying "I want my. 7 massage before the $ extras are considered." Over the years I've learned that presenting the tip too early often leads to a very short massage. Seldom do they come back to the massage after the main event.True, but sometimes you can spend whole hour with extras only. Happened to me at Rio and Orange

Jmshobby
12-06-10, 17:25
I think others have called her jeijei. Her name matches her "additions". Thin model body very pretty face and nice CiCis. I had a great time. My only complaint is that she said that Mr. Johnson was too big and it kinda hurt. I am a hobbyist, but I don't like to hurt people. It kinda took away from the fun. Well worth the visit. I was not rushed and there was no line up the stairwell. I will return if it stays safe and quality. But its only a matter of time.

Whats with all the Leo stickers on the door? :scratchhead:

I might add that I have visited similar places in Atlanta, S&N Carolina, Florida, Virginia, Utah, Wyoming, Rado. CiCi was the hottest yet. Second best was in Utah (American variety with red hair). Weird, huh?

$.7

Freshly Snipes
12-07-10, 07:25
Whats with all the Leo stickers on the door? :scratchhead:

$.7You'll see those on a lot of these places. It's simply there for show; to ward away the would be stick up kids. It's like when you see people with F. O. P stickers on their cars. Somehow, in there minds they think it gives others the impression they're down with L. E.

Member #4338
12-07-10, 09:38
I called today and mamasun said theyd be open Monday with new therapists. Give it a shot then?I called yesterday and no one answers.

Drunker Irish
12-07-10, 10:21
I called yesterday and no one answers.Shoot me a PM, but the answer to your question is stay tuned.

DI

Drofnalb
12-07-10, 21:43
Also, this BS game is a survival tactic on their part.

They have to pay the police boosters to stay tight with them.

Many officers are mongers, some are members of this board.

The unfortunate reality is that when orders come from city hall they (the police) will react negatively.

I seriously don't think that anything we say on this board affects AMP open / closed status.

AMPs that offer no services get shut down all the time.


You'll see those on a lot of these places. It's simply there for show; to ward away the would be stick up kids. It's like when you see people with F. O. P stickers on their cars. Somehow, in there minds they think it gives others the impression they're down with L. E.

Triple E
12-21-10, 04:57
I called today and mamasun said theyd be open Monday with new therapists. Give it a shot then?Thanks for the tip. Looks like other reports have said "stay tuned". Was in the area a while back and was curious. Not normally over there, but good to know it's not totally gone.

MikedD
12-21-10, 19:50
That is her way of saying "I want your ass out of here quickly." I usually respond with something like "Hard on my back but medium on my hamstrings." That is my way of saying "I want my. 7 massage before the $ extras are considered." Over the years I've learned that presenting the tip too early often leads to a very short massage. Seldom do they come back to the massage after the main event.I said the exact same thing on another board. I forgot where just now. Check my history if interested. It was not long ago. As many times as I have been to an AMP I still do not know always when it is best to tip. Different schools of thought on that. Take care all.

Ginger Man
12-22-10, 17:43
I called today and mamasun said theyd be open Monday with new therapists. Give it a shot then?I tried to go today, and at ten-fifteen in the frickin' morning there were THREE cars parked in the back.

So I crossed town, parked on R. I. Ave. Near Conn. And took the little elevator up four floors. I met Linda, a buxom lass who was very sweet. Crazy fun TS, and a delightful session. Oh, on the way out she gave me a Christmas gift, a little Christmas bag with a pair of Polo socklets inside. Rio used to do that too, back when.

I will try again soon for the Shell station.

Bossyboy168
12-24-10, 00:59
Went to mist for the 1st time all the way to the 4th floor. Mamasan picked jay. She has a good personality. Great service and no rush. So far the best service I ever got compare to the AMP gals in philly. Spend for about 55 minutes there.

Ticker1051
12-24-10, 01:29
I will be in town in come Feb and looking forward to it. Been to GHS twice and liked it. I was set back. 6 with a non-solicited. 2 tip. Would I be under compensating at the same rate? (TS & CBJ)

I see there's a lot of talk about the Mist; Is GHS still open or still good?

As to "A john" post in November. Cops aren't dumb dude, If I can figure out the slang, they can too. It was relayed to me by a reliable and knowledgeable source, off duty LE visit also. They can care less what goes on; they have better things to do.

Well, I look forward to the trip.

Redtush69
12-24-10, 16:50
Since it's the holidays I have to share!

Just got out of MIST and here is my report:

Forget the four flights of stairs and take the elevator at Sky or even better. Go out to Alexandria to Peach on Backlick.

Mist today (my first time) : I should have walked out! Older lady (name can't even say but sounded like tishee) about 5'6" 38D took me into room and told me to undress, said she'd be back in a min. Took her about 15 (heard TS going so she must have had another customer). Finally got back took me through very rushed TS. Nothing special. Took me back to room and told me to lay down. Said she needed to go out again but be right back. Took her another 10-15 and gave me a very fast rub down. Told me to flip after like 5 min and I said I was not ready but she said no worries. Will take good care of me and so I let her go. Very quick HJ and then out the door. Said she needed more lotion. 10-15 min later she come back, rubbed a little lotion on my back, slapped my ass and said she needed to get a hot wash cloth. Yep folks. If you did not catch the pattern yet you will now. Back in about 10 with hot cloth proceeded to wipe me down and then left AGAIN! I got dressed, took back some of my tip money that was already left out, and proceeded to leave. Told her had to go to work. As I was leaving I did see other girls eating in the front room so not sure why she had to work two customers at once. Gave. 8 at the door and left. 4 (usually tip at least. 8 to 1. 0).

Sky: Always better than Jasmine which I stopped going to many times ago. Every time I go there is a different girl but they all are satisfactory. I'm never going to Mist again. Why walk up all those stairs. I often go right after work and never had to wait.

Peach on Backlick is my new fav especially on weekends. 6 to. 7 for the hour and the girls never look down at a. 4 or. 6 tip depending on what you want. So for 1/3rd less than DT you get a wonderful table shower, you lie on a professional massage table with proper cut outs and all the girls are CMT's and really no what they are doing. I often do construction on weekends so it is a real treat to have someone who actually is educated about massage. They walk on your back, pull your fingers and toes, pull a few other things too! The girls all speak perfect English too so you can have a conversation about your expectations. Hot towel and even after a happy ending, they do not watch clock, tell you to relax. Plenty of time. What more do you like? Unlike Mist where you dress yourself, and Sky where they "help" you a little. They fully dress you here.

Anyway Happy Christmas and Merry New Year!

PS. Anyone try the Russian's out in Bethesda lately?

Drofnalb
12-26-10, 23:57
Every time I go to Sky I feel like I get real value.
The last time I went my provider rubbed me down with lotion, which felt awesome.

The table shower is nice and the sauna is clean and professional.
The rooms are big and clean.
The location is also nice and peaceful, as opposed to being up a huge stairwell.

The difference is that Sky is actually a real spa.
From my point of view they are #1 in D. C.

The only downside is that the providers are not the absolute youngest in the region, which I know is very important to many on this board.


Since it's the holidays I have to share!

Sky: Always better than Jasmine which I stopped going to many times ago. Every time I go there is a different girl but they all are satisfactory. I'm never going to Mist again. Why walk up all those stairs. I often go right after work and never had to wait.

Asianballer
12-27-10, 22:41
Peach on Backlick is my new fav especially on weekends. 6 to. 7 for the hour and the girls never look down at a. 4 or. 6 tip depending on what you want.

PS. Anyone try the Russian's out in Bethesda lately? Peach is only standard NOVA finish right? So how can you compare MIST to Peach?

Nice 499
12-28-10, 20:26
Stopped by this morning to get out of the cold for a while. When I asked my provider what her name was, I thought I heard her say "Voo Doo." I asked her again and she repeated,"Voo Doo." I'm sure I really understood her clearly. Anyway,"Voo Doo" is a rather tall K-girl with a beautiful face and a nice ass but not much of a rack. Table shower and massage was adequate with a standard DC finish after the flip. All-in-all, the experience was mediocre so I'm not sure if I will return.

Drofnalb
12-30-10, 20:50
I was a little skeptical, because this AMP has been very unstable for several years.
It reopened for a few weeks, then abruptly closed again.

Now it has reopened yet again under new management (and yes they are answering phones).

Please take the time to try them out. I have not been yet, but will be going soon.
It is important to let them know that there is a market for them. Dupont circle is once again
becoming one of the best AMP locations in the country. It is up to all of us to keep it that way.

Competition makes the whole system work better.


Stopped by this morning to get out of the cold for a while. When I asked my provider what her name was, I thought I heard her say "Voo Doo." I asked her again and she repeated,"Voo Doo." I'm sure I really understood her clearly. Anyway,"Voo Doo" is a rather tall K-girl with a beautiful face and a nice ass but not much of a rack. Table shower and massage was adequate with a standard DC finish after the flip. All-in-all, the experience was mediocre so I'm not sure if I will return.

Brutal One
01-01-11, 15:56
Stopped by this morning to get out of the cold for a while. When I asked my provider what her name was, I thought I heard her say "Voo Doo." I asked her again and she repeated,"Voo Doo." I'm sure I really understood her clearly. Anyway,"Voo Doo" is a rather tall K-girl with a beautiful face and a nice ass but not much of a rack. Table shower and massage was adequate with a standard DC finish after the flip. All-in-all, the experience was mediocre so I'm not sure if I will return.Ok, I'm assuming I went to the wrong place. Called Jasmine Therapy on M street? If it is the wrong place, please PM me with the correct address. Jasmine is definitely not somewhere I would repeat.

Sleazebum
01-01-11, 19:11
The place on that street which used to be really great is a couple doors down from Jasmine at 1829. The second floor was great and the third floor was a hags den. I have not been there in a long time so things may have changed but Jasmine never was much good if I remember right.

JJ.


Ok, I'm assuming I went to the wrong place. Called Jasmine Therapy on M street? If it is the wrong place, please PM me with the correct address. Jasmine is definitely not somewhere I would repeat.

Kraven Morehed
01-04-11, 02:16
This lead me to a thought, I wish we would all come out like the gay community has.

I want to scream out loud "I love AMPs and I'm proud!".

Maybe at that point we can get the respect that hobbyists get in other parts of the world.

Regardless the options are looking sweet in DC these days, Smile or not.

Most of the DC spots are pretty crowded. I waited in the hall with a homeless dude for someone to open the door to Smile (he was reasonably helpful trying to use the ringer on the door).

Lmao, this is what I cam talking about.

Kraven Morehed
01-04-11, 02:17
$$ for full service? Wow, do they wash your car and cook you a meal to go along with it, LOL!

This should be my sig.

Drofnalb
01-05-11, 21:32
I did not really feel like going, but the curiosity was too much as I haven't been since they were called *. If the provider was not to my liking I would only tip. 4.

Rang bell and went up, door opened.

Provider - We are closed (lie).
Me - REALLY? When do you open.
Provider - Afternoon around 3 o'clock (lie).
Me - I just came by last week (lie) at this time.
Provider - Really, who take care of you.
Me - I don't remember her name (lie).
Provider - Ok, come in.

Too strange, I could not tell if she did not like me or was afraid. Asked me if I saw tall or short girl, I said short (lie).

Made the mistake of pulling money from ATM and bringing only 20s. Meant I gave her .8 for the house (of course they never come back with change). During the table shower I told her to keep the change as tip, no need to waste valuable time.

From here things improve radically. Table shower is magnificent.

LARS™ Rating
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Age: 27 (what she told me, maybe a lie).
Height: 5'2.
Cup: C / D 100% natural and soft perfect tear drop.
Recent location: Flushing, Queens.
English: good.
Personality: good.
Looks: 7 1/2 face. 8 1/2 body.
Waist: mild curve.
Massage: average.

She said she wanted to open later because she just arrived yesterday, and was wearing no makeup, and the shop was not yet ready (maybe a lie).

The reality is that she was smoking hot and will be here till Feb. so HURRY.

House: .7
Tip up front: .1
Tip in between: $
Tip after: .2

In the end I wound up massaging her for about 15min until exit.
She was very demanding in a good way. It felt like she was expecting satisfaction as well.

I have only been in this hobby for a few years but can honestly say I have never seen things as good as they have been for the last few months.

Drunker Irish
01-06-11, 02:17
I.

Looks: 7 1/2 face. 8 1/2 body.

The reality is that she was smoking hot and will be here till Feb. So HURRY.

So smoking hot gets a 7 1/2?

Rogoh
01-06-11, 14:58
Has anyone visited Vermont Spa (aka Downtown) lately?

Drunker Irish
01-07-11, 07:40
Has anyone visited Vermont Spa (aka Downtown) lately?Not worth it, not even comparable to VA AMPs. Save your money and get lunch downstairs and just walk a few blocks down the street.

Rogoh
01-07-11, 08:05
Not worth it, not even comparable to VA AMPs. Save your money and get lunch downstairs and just walk a few blocks down the street.Drunker Irish,

Thank you. I have been to Mist a few times recently and did go to Vermont a few years ago for a handshake. Have not been to Sky and have not even thought of Jasmine with its public door. There was a website a year ago that showed pictures of men standing at the door of Jasmine (both going in and out). Haven't seen it lately.

Rog

Acesup
01-07-11, 14:27
Was in DC two days before New Year's and went to China Town for lunch. I decided to stop by and check out Golden Nails since the last reports. Went down the stairs (minus the beggar who hangs out there) and walked in. The place looked nothing like it did previously before what is a total remodel under a new owner. There were several stations for pedicures and a couple for manicures. I quickly counted 6 employees plus the boss and the place was packed. I keep my composure and asked for a foot massage which I love and mentioned Lisa's name. The owner called her and she came out of the back room. Once that was established I "decided" I needed a quick shoulder massage and she took me to the back room. I disrobed for that massage and whispered about extra services. She smiled and said yes but too too busy now and she was right. In fact while I was on the table a woman asked to use the toilet and simply entered the area we were in and walked right past us, making everyone a bit uncomfortable. Of course she returned past minutes later.

Summary: the place has changed for the worse. Lisa may still be available on a slow day but the atmosphere has changed. With several new employees, including a ladyboy in training, Lisa is going to have little privacy to do her thing.

Jjcars
01-07-11, 16:17
Coming up for the first week of Feb. Last Feb I visited a spot just down the street (M?) from my Renaissance M Street hotel. It was beside a shady looking strip club and up a flight or two of steps. Tons of snow on ground so there wasn't much option around there. Provider was awesome but was leaving a couple weeks later to new York. Looks like from reading the boards here that this area around Dupont might have more options now. I see the names of many of these places but not sure if in the Dupont area or not. Can any of you guys let me know which ones are around there?

Capricaone
01-08-11, 00:50
Holy crap. Sarah at AM is a 10 in attitude and 8-9 in looks. She said she'll be gone by Sunday so hurry up and check her out.

Dcfan77
01-08-11, 12:13
There is one Conn ave. Up four flights of stairs.


Coming up for the first week of Feb. Last Feb I visited a spot just down the street (M?) from my Renaissance M Street hotel. It was beside a shady looking strip club and up a flight or two of steps. Tons of snow on ground so there wasn't much option around there. Provider was awesome but was leaving a couple weeks later to new York. Looks like from reading the boards here that this area around Dupont might have more options now. I see the names of many of these places but not sure if in the Dupont area or not. Can any of you guys let me know which ones are around there?

Jimjim77
01-08-11, 13:00
Coming up for the first week of Feb. Last Feb I visited a spot just down the street (M?) from my Renaissance M Street hotel. It was beside a shady looking strip club and up a flight or two of steps. Tons of snow on ground so there wasn't much option around there. Provider was awesome but was leaving a couple weeks later to new York. Looks like from reading the boards here that this area around Dupont might have more options now. I see the names of many of these places but not sure if in the Dupont area or not. Can any of you guys let me know which ones are around there?If 1333 Green is still open it should be very close. You can see how to get there in the Info on AMP's DC thread. I just visit DC so I don't know if it's still open.

DCoffee
01-08-11, 18:03
This is my first ever visit and review. So be light on me. I went to Mist. As it's been covered nicely here, and I was confident it would be a good experience. I got a girl who said her name was "Kay" but she hesitated giving it so I wouldn't ask for her by that name. TS was nice, if half hearted, she got all of good bits.

The TS was followed by a crappy "massage" which consisted of her doing something between a Heimlich maneuver and just touching my back. She then asked what I wanted, to which I replied "everything" she told me it would be $.2 and I told her I only brought $. She said it was fine because I looked so young (in my early 20's) and then she told me she would come back.

I won't go into details, but if you want more send me a PM. It'll have to suffice that it ended prematurely due to my nervousness being my 1st time and the fact that she was good at what she did.

Coffee

Brutal One
01-08-11, 22:48
This is my first ever visit and review. So be light on me. I went to Mist. As it's been covered nicely here, and I was confident it would be a good experience. I got a girl who said her name was "Kay" but she hesitated giving it so I wouldn't ask for her by that name. TS was nice, if half hearted, she got all of good bits.

The TS was followed by a crappy "massage" which consisted of her doing something between a Heimlich maneuver and just touching my back. She then asked what I wanted, to which I replied "everything" she told me it would be $.2 and I told her I only brought $. She said it was fine because I looked so young (in my early 20's) and then she told me she would come back.

I won't go into details, but if you want more send me a PM. It'll have to suffice that it ended prematurely due to my nervousness being my 1st time and the fact that she was good at what she did.

Coffeedon't feel bad brother. My frist P4P experience in the states (honolulu) lasted all of about six minutes. She was so fucking hot, plus I was nervous. My friends, who were waiting for me in a nearby bar, never did let me live that down!

The Big Man
01-09-11, 06:25
Not worth it, not even comparable to VA AMPs. Save your money and get lunch downstairs and just walk a few blocks down the street.Back in the day, (Two years ago) that was a hot ass spa. Service was on point.

Drofnalb
01-09-11, 08:29
Welcome Dcoffee,

Nice post, I hope you stick around to offer more.

I have a warning for all board members in their 20's.

You will find that many of the women in this hobby are very attractive and good at what they do.
The problem is that many women in your normal life will be unable to compete.
We are spoiled men, enjoying quality levels way above what we deserve.

Women in your life will wonder why you no longer look at them with lust in your eyes, or go out of your way to impress them. The answer will be that you will be fully sexually satisfied by women far more desirable.

Men who are sexually satisfied deal with women in an entirely different capacity. You might start expecting them to have nice personalities and be generally useful. Unfortunately most American women are not trained to be either.

I have no advice for the young'ins of this board only a warning, few people ever leave this game (in other words membership is PERMANENT).


This is my first ever visit and review. So be light on me. I went to Mist. As it's been covered nicely here, and I was confident it would be a good experience. I got a girl who said her name was "Kay" but she hesitated giving it so I wouldn't ask for her by that name. TS was nice, if half hearted, she got all of good bits.

The TS was followed by a crappy "massage" which consisted of her doing something between a Heimlich maneuver and just touching my back. She then asked what I wanted, to which I replied "everything" she told me it would be $.2 and I told her I only brought $. She said it was fine because I looked so young (in my early 20's) and then she told me she would come back.

I won't go into details, but if you want more send me a PM. It'll have to suffice that it ended prematurely due to my nervousness being my 1st time and the fact that she was good at what she did.

Coffee

Brutal One
01-09-11, 14:53
Welcome Dcoffee,

Nice post, I hope you stick around to offer more.

I have a warning for all board members in their 20's.

You will find that many of the women in this hobby are very attractive and good at what they do.

The problem is that many women in your normal life will be unable to compete.

We are spoiled men, enjoying quality levels way above what we deserve.

Women in your life will wonder why you no longer look at them with lust in your eyes, or go out of your way to impress them. The answer will be that you will be fully sexually satisfied by women far more desirable.

Men who are sexually satisfied deal with women in an entirely different capacity. You might start expecting them to have nice personalities and be generally useful. Unfortunately most American women are not trained to be either.

I have no advice for the young'ins of this board only a warning, few people ever leave this game (in other words membership is PERMANENT). Very Good point! The sheer level of hotness of Honolulu providers, and then my trips to Thailand, have ruined me forever for your average western woman. How can I fuck some overweight, unattractive slag when all I have to do is jump on the metro to Dupont and fuck a hot young Korean girl?

Jackbenimble17
01-10-11, 00:43
Not worth it, not even comparable to VA AMPs. Save your money and get lunch downstairs and just walk a few blocks down the street.Remember the old vermont? Many a time there would be great stable of gals and the smell of urine on the gout levels of steps weren't nice, but the release was worth it.

Bunker Buster
01-10-11, 15:37
Back in the day, (Two years ago) that was a hot ass spa. Service was on point.Ten years ago, that was one of the hottest places of all time. When Kona in Bethesda closed, the manager moved to Downtown and presided over the glory days.

I still think about the dream I had where an Asian cowgirl was riding sidesaddle, using one hand on my nipples and the other to play with the boys and the Pacific rim, while I watched the rodeo in the mirror on the side wall.

The only competition for a nicer lineup was the joint in the Korean center on NY Ave, NE. Back in the day, they'd put you on the couch in that waiting room, then 8-12 beauties would parade in for your choosing pleasure.

Drunker Irish
01-10-11, 18:14
Remember the old vermont? Many a time there would be great stable of gals and the smell of urine on the gout levels of steps weren't nice, but the release was worth it.Oh, yes. My all time favorite hands down, bar none, Linda at Vermont. Wow, incredible just incredible. 11+ body and face. 10 service. 10 everything. I should have taken out a home equity loan and hit that until she was gone.

Not that I didn't give it my best shot. Vermont was one of the best.

Drunker Irish
01-10-11, 18:20
Welcome Dcoffee,

Nice post, I hope you stick around to offer more.

I have a warning for all board members in their 20's.

You will find that many of the women in this hobby are very attractive and good at what they do.

The problem is that many women in your normal life will be unable to compete.

We are spoiled men, enjoying quality levels way above what we deserve.

Women in your life will wonder why you no longer look at them with lust in your eyes, or go out of your way to impress them. The answer will be that you will be fully sexually satisfied by women far more desirable.

Men who are sexually satisfied deal with women in an entirely different capacity. You might start expecting them to have nice personalities and be generally useful. Unfortunately most American women are not trained to be either.

I have no advice for the young'ins of this board only a warning, few people ever leave this game (in other words membership is PERMANENT). Actually, this is a very good thing. The young guys will learn some tricks and get the nervousness out of their system. Women smell this like warm chocolate and will swarm all over you because you don't give a shit. They only have one piece of real currency (well, three, but we'll say one for now). If you don't need or want pussy, they'll wonder why-because its supposed to be Gods gift to man. THen they'll start chasing you and waving it in front of you to figure out why you're not falling over yourself like every other guy.

Your standards will be higher, which they should be. And really, no American girl will ever touch the quality of a Korean girl. When was the last time you had a visit to the pacific rim, F / S and then have your socks and shoes put on for you. Hell, when was the last time beside your mother that a girl put your socks on for you.

Readerx
01-10-11, 21:57
DI: DT was the finest of the fine. I remember walking in one Saturday and my all time favorite, Bibi, said,"To hell with the massage. We do that later," and proceeded to strip me and jump my bones. One of the best of all time. Oh, yes, she did give me my massage. Much later. And it too was excellent!

Be Safe,

Rx

TravelR
01-11-11, 15:30
Coming up for the first week of Feb. Last Feb I visited a spot just down the street (M?) from my Renaissance M Street hotel. It was beside a shady looking strip club and up a flight or two of steps. Tons of snow on ground so there wasn't much option around there. Provider was awesome but was leaving a couple weeks later to new York. Looks like from reading the boards here that this area around Dupont might have more options now. I see the names of many of these places but not sure if in the Dupont area or not. Can any of you guys let me know which ones are around there?1829 M St. Is up the Stairs, ask for the girl that plays the keyboard. Also Jasmine is on M, few doors down next to OZIO, better looking girls for now.

Cohiker
01-11-11, 17:33
Hey guys,

Its great reading about the AMP's glory days, I went to a bunch right before I moved to Richmond VA. Anyways I'm planning on doing a B-day present to myself and if the weather permits visiting DC tomorrow for a AMP tour. What does anyone know about H&H Flotation on Wisc. Ave? I can't find any reviews at all except a ********* review from 5 years ago. I never went there when I lived in town and have seen mixed reviews, but I know they did provide similar service as AMP's although their staff isn't strictly Asian. Looks like my AMP tour will be spent in the "golden triangle"/CT Ave area with now only 4 of them in 1 area as opposed to around 15 all over the nicer parts of NW DC. Wow things have freakin downsized!

Steamvac
01-12-11, 01:31
If 1333 Green is still open it should be very close. You can see how to get there in the Info on AMP's DC thread. I just visit DC so I don't know if it's still open.You'll have to check the NoVA forum for 1333 Green. Nana moved to Alexandria, maybe about a year ago. Not sure if she's still in business.

Jimjim77
01-12-11, 10:27
You'll have to check the NoVA forum for 1333 Green. Nana moved to Alexandria, maybe about a year ago. Not sure if she's still in business.Thanks, yes I checked and yes it looks like she moved. I usally stay in DC without a car so it may be too far. Thanks again.

Jjcars
01-12-11, 11:19
1829 M St. Is up the Stairs, ask for the girl that plays the keyboard. Also Jasmine is on M, few doors down next to OZIO, better looking girls for now.Thanks man! M Street was it! About 2 blocks down M from the hotel. Jasmine may have been the one below street level beside the cigar bar Ozio. I went up a few flights of stairs so I think it was M Street. What a time and what a girl there last February. I'll try and repeat and look for keyboard girl! May try Therapy if you say good lineup. Never seen a review of that place.

Titleist4
01-12-11, 15:56
You'll have to check the NoVA forum for 1333 Green. Nana moved to Alexandria, maybe about a year ago. Not sure if she's still in business.Nana retired a while ago.

John2526
01-12-11, 16:26
Hey guys,

Its great reading about the AMP's glory days, I went to a bunch right before I moved to Richmond VA. Anyways I'm planning on doing a B-day present to myself and if the weather permits visiting DC tomorrow for a AMP tour. What does anyone know about H&H Flotation on Wisc. Ave? I can't find any reviews at all except a * review from 5 years ago. I never went there when I lived in town and have seen mixed reviews, but I know they did provide similar service as AMP's although their staff isn't strictly Asian. Looks like my AMP tour will be spent in the "golden triangle"/CT Ave area with now only 4 of them in 1 area as opposed to around 15 all over the nicer parts of NW DC. Wow things have freakin downsized! It's still there. I've been there twice in the last year. Providers were 30's Ethiopian and 40's Brazilian. Shower, but no TS. Overpriced (.8 + 1) , w / no FS. I only went back due to proximity and laziness.

Richy2
01-12-11, 22:17
It's still there. I've been there twice in the last year. Providers were 30's Ethiopian and 40's Brazilian. Shower, but no TS. Overpriced (.8 + 1) , w / no FS. I only went back due to proximity and laziness.I'm not talking about the past, but the current situation, where are the good AMP's are they in Northern Virginia or still DC? Northern VA is starting to become a strong competitor so I was wondering.

Venaddar
01-13-11, 07:34
Stopped be smile Tuesday, no answer, tried to call both smile and mist Wednesday, no answer. I hope this doesn't mean what it could mean.

Drofnalb
01-13-11, 19:59
I also tried to go back this week. Deedee was running through my mind all morning.
I went at 10am to get the fresh experience, rang the door bell and nothing. Chilled out for a while but no luck.

Went to Sky instead.

Spent the rest of the day trying to call them, going to voice mail every time, until about 2pm.

A woman answered the phone:

Me: are you open.
Woman: no we are not open yet.
Me: I wast just there last week.
Woman: she says we are closed for the next 2-3 weeks. New owner.
Woman: check back in 2-3-4 weeks.

I guess my experience with Deedee was just a lucky coincidence.

I hope she is there when / if they finally re-open.


Stopped be smile Tuesday, no answer, tried to call both smile and mist Wednesday, no answer. I hope this doesn't mean what it could mean.

John2526
01-13-11, 22:33
I'm not talking about the past, but the current situation, where are the good AMP's are they in Northern Virginia or still DC? Northern VA is starting to become a strong competitor so I was wondering.What I said is pretty current for H&H. My understanding is DC is now concentrated on the Conn. & M spas. VA has a few as well, with no focal point.

If H&H, Dupont and NOVA are all on your map. I'd stick with the Dupont spas, I guess.

Richy2
01-14-11, 12:10
What I said is pretty current for H&H. My understanding is DC is now concentrated on the Conn. & M spas. VA has a few as well, with no focal point.

If H&H, Dupont and NOVA are all on your map. I'd stick with the Dupont spas, I guess. Good to know, MoCo is pretty much out of existence, so I could go either way. The only reason why I like NOVA is that there is parking, locations are good (not in the open) , and I can choose the women. I'm not sure this is the same for DC, especially the parking. Thanks for the tip.

Fcbarcelona
01-15-11, 02:03
Thanks everyone for all the great information here.

I'm in dc for a few months and I was hoping to find some action here, and I found it.

Because of all the posts here I decided to venture out and try to find mist.

There wasnt an address posted here, I'm pretty sure the reasons are obvious, but I managed to decipher the area, and from there I managed to find the spot.

I was a bit nervous. Most of the action where I'm from is in strip clubs. Didn't know how this whole thing worked.

Rang the bell. Older lady answered and invited me in, asked if I had been there before.

Said yes because I was nervous, and she showed me to a room.

Then a cute petitte girl came in, she said her name was Pink (could have been ping?).

She asked also if I had been there before and I said no. She asked if I wanted everything and I said yes. She said it was $.7 and I gave it to her.

She told me to get ready for the TS and left the room.

Not knowing what to do I just got undressed and layed down on the bed.

When she came back she said no, and then gave me a towel and took me to the room for the TS.

She took her time. Thoroughly washed me. It was kind of awesome. I felt like a king and she was my servant.

After that she took me to the room for the massage. Her massage was GREAT. Honestly I would have paid $.7 just for the massage. It was that good. Took her time and hit all the right spots.

Then she turned me over and the fun began. I'll spare you the details but she was good. Made some nice noise, at least acted like she enjoyed it. Some light kissing. She wasnt smoking hot but I like tiny petitte girls so I didn't mind.

Then at the end to top everything off she helped me get dressed! She went as far as putting my socks on for me. Great service. I was really treated well by this girl. I wanted to tip her extra but I brought the exact amount I had heard about on here.

Just a few questions:

Is it normal to pay everything up front? Or should I have paid the. 7 first and the $ after?

Also how do you guys make sure you don't get your wallet, cards, cell ripped off while you are getting a TS?

Thanks again for all the info. This was an experience I won't forget.

Drunker Irish
01-15-11, 16:22
T.

Then at the end to top everything off she helped me get dressed! She went as far as putting my socks on for me. Great service. I was really treated well by this girl. I wanted to tip her extra but I brought the exact amount I had heard about on here.

Just a few questions:

Is it normal to pay everything up front? Or should I have paid the. 7 first and the $ after?

Also how do you guys make sure you don't get your wallet, cards, cell ripped off while you are getting a TS?

Thanks again for all the info. This was an experience I won't forget. Good post. As far as the addresses, you can just do a google search and it will pop-up. To answer your questions, there has been some price creep up from 60 to 70, but I'm thinking 70 is pretty much the norm unless you really want to put up a fuss and not worth it.

Usually pay the. 7 up front, and then when she leaves, put down the $, so everyone knows whats-up, there is no negotiating and done-is-done. She doesn't have to touch the money, so no money exchanges hands. What I've found lately is that sometimes they don't even like you putting the $ down in advance.

There will now probably be a out ten threads on how to put the $ down, but I don't think there is a wrong way of doing it. Short changing the girl is the WRONG way of doing it. $ is the donation and tip if you want.

Some will wait until the very end, I don't think it matters. I just like doing it up front so the negotiation is done and everybody knows thats that.

You must have had the right 'look' for her to ask for everything up front, pretty easy, but dangerous for her if you were LEO.

I've never had anything stolen from me while at an AMP, but why invite temptation. I just take my I'd and the right amount and leave my wallet locked in my car.

I think they have the system down, and don't want to invite any more trouble or go looking for it. What are they going to steal? Your credit card? And risk getting caught using it or have items shipped to where?

You did everything 'right', glad it worked out for you.

Bunker Buster
01-15-11, 16:27
Also how do you guys make sure you don't get your wallet, cards, cell ripped off while you are getting a TS?

I usually leave my wallet and cell in the car while doing any kind of hobbying, but for those who cab or Metro, that's not an option. It's been a while since I had a TS, but places used to provide plastic zip pouches to bring your valuables into the shower room. If you don't see one next time, you could always bring a Ziploc freezer bag.

Drofnalb
01-15-11, 17:06
Nice review, I am glad our fair town treated you well.

Concerning theft. This never ever happens period. You can leave your wallet out in the open at every place in the region without a problem. I cannot speak for where you are from.

Concerning tip, it happens in all kinds of ways. Many times you get service before a tip is asked for.

I agree with Drunker Irish, leave $ on the table when she leaves the room is my personal favorite.

Also, if she rocks your shit, puts on your socks, and also gives very good massage another .2 on the way out always makes things nice. Massage work (when done well) is hard work, we as customers should never pretend that it is a walk in the park.


Then at the end to top everything off she helped me get dressed! She went as far as putting my socks on for me. Great service. I was really treated well by this girl. I wanted to tip her extra but I brought the exact amount I had heard about on here.

Just a few questions:

Is it normal to pay everything up front? Or should I have paid the. 7 first and the $ after?

Also how do you guys make sure you don't get your wallet, cards, cell ripped off while you are getting a TS?

Thanks again for all the info. This was an experience I won't forget.

Fcbarcelona
01-15-11, 18:49
Thats good to hear, about the theft. I'll feel more comfortable next time.

As for the tip, I really think this girl did deserve an extra. 1 or. 2. I mean the massage lasted at least 20 minutes. She did my whole body down to my feet. And she was so pettite she was up on the bed using her hands, feet, everything. It felt great. And yea helping a guy put on his clothes, down to his socks, is really going above and beyond IMHO. If I had brought extra I would have left it.


Nice review, I am glad our fair town treated you well.

Concerning theft. This never ever happens period. You can leave your wallet out in the open at every place in the region without a problem. I cannot speak for where you are from.

Concerning tip, it happens in all kinds of ways. Many times you get service before a tip is asked for.

I agree with Drunker Irish, leave $ on the table when she leaves the room is my personal favorite.

Also, if she rocks your shit, puts on your socks, and also gives very good massage another. 2 on the way out always makes things nice. Massage work (when done well) is hard work, we as customers should never pretend that it is a walk in the park.

AKFourtySeven
01-15-11, 19:23
I use the monger wallet. I have a spare wallet that I put the appropriate amount of cash and my DL. Nothing else is needed. I've never had any cash stolen either.

Jackbenimble17
01-17-11, 15:07
I use the monger wallet. I have a spare wallet that I put the appropriate amount of cash and my DL. Nothing else is needed. I've never had any cash stolen either.Many times I have put the wallet in the bag, but too excited about the pretty gal and have left it in the room. The girls close the door to the room for the TS, and never had anything taken. One time at Mist I had to wait for a room, so they put me in a room with a bed, but there was a suitcase in there with all the ladies personal stuff. Turn around would be fair play, but the trust in this place goes both ways.

Richy2
01-18-11, 00:08
I use the monger wallet. I have a spare wallet that I put the appropriate amount of cash and my DL. Nothing else is needed. I've never had any cash stolen either.I leave everything in my car and just take my keys and cash with me. It seems tho that things are safe there, I'm sure the MMS doesn't want to deal with a guy getting pissed that something got stolen.

Thenocturnal
01-18-11, 21:12
And yea helping a guy put on his clothes, down to his socks, is really going above and beyond IMHO.

Somewhat disagree about it being "above and beyond". When I started this it was the _norm_.

That sort of treatment is one of the things that made the AMP option so attractive.

The whole package being washed, massaged _well_, taken care of, and pampered as you dressed, made AMPs better than most other options. As they became more well known and popular, they became too busy to maintain that level of service.

I suppose now it is unusual, and deserves some extra recompense, but it's very sad that it has become unusual.

Richy2
01-19-11, 01:39
Somewhat disagree about it being "above and beyond". When I started this it was the _norm_.

That sort of treatment is one of the things that made the AMP option so attractive.

The whole package being washed, massaged _well_, taken care of, and pampered as you dressed, made AMPs better than most other options. As they became more well known and popular, they became too busy to maintain that level of service.

I suppose now it is unusual, and deserves some extra recompense, but it's very sad that it has become unusual.But I would also say that it depends on the girl as well. Same place 1 time the girl did everything for me, next time I got a girl that did the bear minimum. So it depends some treat you like kings others don't

Freshly Snipes
01-19-11, 08:05
Just a few questions:

Is it normal to pay everything up front? Or should I have paid the. 7 first and the $ after?

You pay the. 7 fee up front.

The '$' tip is another story.

I find 'leaving the tip on the table thing' works best AFTER you ask for everything, as opposed to leaving it there, before the massage. It's been my experience that when the girl sees the tip, the massage is cut extremely short. A lot of times, if the girl is trying to feel you out and entice you, you'll get a really good massage before she eases into the 'what do you want' question. I mean, we're both adults, there's no need to be shy about asking in that situation.

Azn Chopstik
01-20-11, 03:09
Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum. Although I've signed up awhile ago. I have not been active until recently. I've been reading many threads and many topics on this forum. I've tried to figure out ways with the best of my logic (not that great) to see how you guys interpret this coded language on AMPs etc. If a moderator or admin or seasoned troller could help me through a pm on where to find some places with AMPs in northern virginia or dc that have girls that are not too old. (I'm in my late 20s). Any help from you fellow mongers would be greatly appreciated. If I posted in the wrong thread. Section. Etc. I apologize in advance. And I look forward to becoming more active in the near future and hopefully make my own contributions soon!

Fatpig
01-20-11, 05:06
Somewhat disagree about it being "above and beyond". When I started this it was the _norm_.

That sort of treatment is one of the things that made the AMP option so attractive.

The whole package being washed, massaged _well_, taken care of, and pampered as you dressed, made AMPs better than most other options. As they became more well known and popular, they became too busy to maintain that level of service.

I suppose now it is unusual, and deserves some extra recompense, but it's very sad that it has become unusual. I just been doing this about 5 years and I agree. What used to be the norm is now above and beyond service. Sad.

Ginger Man
01-20-11, 12:57
You pay the. 7 fee up front.

The '$' tip is another story.

I find 'leaving the tip on the table thing' works best AFTER you ask for everything, as opposed to leaving it there, before the massage. It's been my experience that when the girl sees the tip, the massage is cut extremely short. A lot of times, if the girl is trying to feel you out and entice you, you'll get a really good massage before she eases into the 'what do you want' question. I mean, we're both adults, there's no need to be shy about asking in that situation. I agree with you, but would add this. In my experience, if I find a gal I like, I will repeat, asking for her. This can bring many benefits, and much mileage. Unless they are really busy, I often get time over an hour, and a more 'date like' or certainly friendlier, session.

For her, she knows what to expect, and that she has a customer who likes her. Everyone is at ease, and friendly.

Good times.

MrWhatever
01-21-11, 16:20
OK. So I am brand new at this. Never did this before. I read some of the current posts in this thread and checked out Asian mist. Now I think I really messed up but I don't know?

I call up there and asks how much it costs cause in this thread I kept seeing $ 7 and I don't understand why so I just call and ask for the price and she tells me its 70. Ok cool. Then I see how people say they live the girl a tip of $1 or $2 and that makes me think 10 dollars or 20 dollars going off the logic of the 70 thing.

SO. I goto asian mist. The chick comes in and gets the money which is 80 and I tell her 10 will be the tip or whatever.

She's cleans me up etc, then we go in the room and she says what do you want and I tell her everything and she says what about 100? And I'm like I only got that 80 and she was like ok.

She does everything, and then after its over. And I'm all dressed she has her 10 tip on the table and she asks where is the other 70. And I'm like I already gave it to you.

What I didn't understand was she was saying I give her 80 on top of the 70 I already paid. She started to get upset and I told her I didn't bring anything else because I thought it was just 70. She said that 70 is just the house but I'm suppossed to pay more for the girl or something. She was really pissed and upset and was like "FUCKING MONEY!" after I tried to explain to her I didn't know and I misunderstood she let me out. But man, I think I am banned from there now.

So whats the correct money thing? Or was she tryna hustle me? I'm confused as hell. I felt like shit after that. I want to go one last time cause everything before that was great, but I'm too embarrassed now.

Ginger Man
01-21-11, 16:42
I had a good, but odd at times session today. I tried to go to Sky, but a sign on the door said 'Closed Today. '

Even though Smile does not answer the phone, I thought what the heck. I went over, walked into the vestibule and rang what I thought was their bell. After thirty seconds, as I was about to leave, I was buzzed in. Upstairs another wait until I was finally let in.

I used to go here before, not much has changed except for no improvements. Anyway Lilly was young, attractive, very thin, a spinner you call them I think. She looked so familiar to me. I could not place her.

The session was good, quite an acceptable DC session. I recommend. I paid. 7 + 1. 2. Lilly was accomodating, although my tastes are pretty normal. She is direct, almost abrupt, but when you talk to her a bit she becomes sweet. English = poor.

I kept trying to place her, she looks very, very like the pretty gal that worked at Gerwig up in Cloumbia a year or so ago. She said it was not her. I must have run into her here, when it was open last year.

She says that by tomorrow, Saturday, there will be three ladies there.

This place is worth a repeat to me.

Govman
01-21-11, 16:50
Ten years ago, that was one of the hottest places of all time. When Kona in Bethesda closed, the manager moved to Downtown and presided over the glory days.

I still think about the dream I had where an Asian cowgirl was riding sidesaddle, using one hand on my nipples and the other to play with the boys and the Pacific rim, while I watched the rodeo in the mirror on the side wall.

The only competition for a nicer lineup was the joint in the Korean center on NY Ave, NE. Back in the day, they'd put you on the couch in that waiting room, then 8-12 beauties would parade in for your choosing pleasure. Read this post about Downtown and it bought back some great memories. I met Suzi a few times and she was a wild one. Loved the oil, but also like to play with poop shoot. I always liked having a lineup and picking out my provider. Haven't been to DC in a few years, but last time met Ruby at Star. I go to Detriot a lot now and have a good time a M1 there. Maybe I venture up to DC soon to check out the scene.

Sleazebum
01-21-11, 18:14
OK. So I am brand new at this. Never did this before. I read some of the current posts in this thread and checked out Asian mist. Now I think I really messed up but I don't know?

I call up there and asks how much it costs cause in this thread I kept seeing $ 7 and I don't understand why so I just call and ask for the price and she tells me its 70. Ok cool. Then I see how people say they live the girl a tip of $1 or $2 and that makes me think 10 dollars or 20 dollars going off the logic of the 70 thing.

SO. I goto asian mist. The chick comes in and gets the money which is 80 and I tell her 10 will be the tip or whatever.

She's cleans me up etc, then we go in the room and she says what do you want and I tell her everything and she says what about 100? And I'm like I only got that 80 and she was like ok.

She does everything, and then after its over. And I'm all dressed she has her 10 tip on the table and she asks where is the other 70. And I'm like I already gave it to you.

What I didn't understand was she was saying I give her 80 on top of the 70 I already paid. She started to get upset and I told her I didn't bring anything else because I thought it was just 70. She said that 70 is just the house but I'm suppossed to pay more for the girl or something. She was really pissed and upset and was like "FUCKING MONEY!" after I tried to explain to her I didn't know and I misunderstood she let me out. But man, I think I am banned from there now.

So whats the correct money thing? Or was she tryna hustle me? I'm confused as hell. I felt like shit after that. I want to go one last time cause everything before that was great, but I'm too embarrassed now.You must take a bucket of money and go back there! The fees for that place is $70. 00 for the session PLUS $100. 00 for all the extras.

Try again. Ask for the same girl and give her $200. 00 over the $70. 00 house fee to make up. If you do so, you will become a hero in their eyes and get special treatment on later trips. If you do not. Best just stay away.

JJ

Cesar Romero
01-21-11, 18:18
Well you could always swing back by and ask to speak to mamasan and explain what happened and hand her $100. 00 to give to the girl. I am sure she is aware of your inadvertent mistake and will get the money to her now very upset provider.


OK. So I am brand new at this. Never did this before. I read some of the current posts in this thread and checked out Asian mist. Now I think I really messed up but I don't know?

I call up there and asks how much it costs cause in this thread I kept seeing $ 7 and I don't understand why so I just call and ask for the price and she tells me its 70. Ok cool. Then I see how people say they live the girl a tip of $1 or $2 and that makes me think 10 dollars or 20 dollars going off the logic of the 70 thing.

SO. I goto asian mist. The chick comes in and gets the money which is 80 and I tell her 10 will be the tip or whatever.

She's cleans me up etc, then we go in the room and she says what do you want and I tell her everything and she says what about 100? And I'm like I only got that 80 and she was like ok.

She does everything, and then after its over. And I'm all dressed she has her 10 tip on the table and she asks where is the other 70. And I'm like I already gave it to you.

What I didn't understand was she was saying I give her 80 on top of the 70 I already paid. She started to get upset and I told her I didn't bring anything else because I thought it was just 70. She said that 70 is just the house but I'm suppossed to pay more for the girl or something. She was really pissed and upset and was like "FUCKING MONEY!" after I tried to explain to her I didn't know and I misunderstood she let me out. But man, I think I am banned from there now.

So whats the correct money thing? Or was she tryna hustle me? I'm confused as hell. I felt like shit after that. I want to go one last time cause everything before that was great, but I'm too embarrassed now.

Bunker Buster
01-21-11, 18:42
OK. So I am brand new at this. Never did this before. I read some of the current posts in this thread and checked out Asian mist. Now I think I really messed up but I don't know?

I call up there and asks how much it costs cause in this thread I kept seeing $ 7 and I don't understand why so I just call and ask for the price and she tells me its 70. Ok cool. Then I see how people say they live the girl a tip of $1 or $2 and that makes me think 10 dollars or 20 dollars going off the logic of the 70 thing.

SO. I goto asian mist. The chick comes in and gets the money which is 80 and I tell her 10 will be the tip or whatever.

She's cleans me up etc, then we go in the room and she says what do you want and I tell her everything and she says what about 100? And I'm like I only got that 80 and she was like ok.

She does everything, and then after its over. And I'm all dressed she has her 10 tip on the table and she asks where is the other 70. And I'm like I already gave it to you.

What I didn't understand was she was saying I give her 80 on top of the 70 I already paid. She started to get upset and I told her I didn't bring anything else because I thought it was just 70. She said that 70 is just the house but I'm suppossed to pay more for the girl or something. She was really pissed and upset and was like "FUCKING MONEY!" after I tried to explain to her I didn't know and I misunderstood she let me out. But man, I think I am banned from there now.

So whats the correct money thing? Or was she tryna hustle me? I'm confused as hell. I felt like shit after that. I want to go one last time cause everything before that was great, but I'm too embarrassed now. I find it hard to believe you thought you'd get a table shower, massage and the works for a total of 80 anywhere in the continental United States, but if you really were confused, and want to set things right and go another round, show up with the house fee and 2 fresh, crisp C notes. Explain to mamasan that you made a mistake, but came back to fix it, and show her the notes; one for last time, one for this time.

Ask mamasan to bring the girl to you and hand her one of the notes, so there's no question that she got it, then it's up to you and her whether you repeat, or pick a new girl.

Hopefully, this puts you in their good graces as a guy who might not be so bright, but is honest and deserving of good service.

Drofnalb
01-21-11, 20:09
But all is fine. Follow these instructions.

1. Go to the ATM and pull out $120 (for her trouble, and your mistake).
2. Go to Mist.
3. Find the girl is question.
4. Give her the money and apologize.

She will appreciate this.

You committed theft with your action, the good part is that if/when you go back you can correct your action 110%.

BTW

I will no longer be posting using the old $ .20 .40 codes in my posts unless someone can explain to me otherwise.



So whats the correct money thing? Or was she tryna hustle me? I'm confused as hell. I felt like shit after that. I want to go one last time cause everything before that was great, but I'm too embarrassed now.

Jjcars
01-21-11, 21:38
Gingerman,

Is Smile 2nd or 3rd floor in that building? Or is there just one now?


I had a good, but odd at times session today. I tried to go to Sky, but a sign on the door said 'Closed Today. '

Even though Smile does not answer the phone, I thought what the heck. I went over, walked into the vestibule and rang what I thought was their bell. After thirty seconds, as I was about to leave, I was buzzed in. Upstairs another wait until I was finally let in.

I used to go here before, not much has changed except for no improvements. Anyway Lilly was young, attractive, very thin, a spinner you call them I think. She looked so familiar to me. I could not place her.

The session was good, quite an acceptable DC session. I recommend. I paid. 7 + 1. 2. Lilly was accomodating, although my tastes are pretty normal. She is direct, almost abrupt, but when you talk to her a bit she becomes sweet. English = poor.

I kept trying to place her, she looks very, very like the pretty gal that worked at Gerwig up in Cloumbia a year or so ago. She said it was not her. I must have run into her here, when it was open last year.

She says that by tomorrow, Saturday, there will be three ladies there.

This place is worth a repeat to me.

Freshly Snipes
01-22-11, 09:33
OK. So I am brand new at this. Never did this before. I read some of the current posts in this thread and checked out Asian mist. Now I think I really messed up but I don't know?

I call up there and asks how much it costs cause in this thread I kept seeing $ 7 and I don't understand why so I just call and ask for the price and she tells me its 70. Ok cool. Then I see how people say they live the girl a tip of $1 or $2 and that makes me think 10 dollars or 20 dollars going off the logic of the 70 thing.

SO. I goto asian mist. The chick comes in and gets the money which is 80 and I tell her 10 will be the tip or whatever.

She's cleans me up etc, then we go in the room and she says what do you want and I tell her everything and she says what about 100? And I'm like I only got that 80 and she was like ok.

She does everything, and then after its over. And I'm all dressed she has her 10 tip on the table and she asks where is the other 70. And I'm like I already gave it to you.

What I didn't understand was she was saying I give her 80 on top of the 70 I already paid. She started to get upset and I told her I didn't bring anything else because I thought it was just 70. She said that 70 is just the house but I'm suppossed to pay more for the girl or something. She was really pissed and upset and was like "FUCKING MONEY!" after I tried to explain to her I didn't know and I misunderstood she let me out. But man, I think I am banned from there now.

So whats the correct money thing? Or was she tryna hustle me? I'm confused as hell. I felt like shit after that. I want to go one last time cause everything before that was great, but I'm too embarrassed now. Did you at least get her name?

This is the reason why alot of girls ask / demand and count the 'tip' upfront.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was pretty new herself.

Did you tell them you had been there before? They probably figured you knew how things worked already.

Like other's have said, go back and make it right. I'm quite sure because of your mistake, you ruined the rest of her day, and thus every customer she had after you, because of her now. Not so trusting attitude.

LexLuther
01-22-11, 10:16
I think it's time to discard the games people play regarding how much various things cost. I have never seen the point in it. From now on, let's just call $100 $100. Nobody benefits from the games people are playing with this.

These girls are risking everything to do what they do. They risk their freedom, their health (both physical and mental) , and God knows what else. In exchange for that, they deserve to get at least whatever the going rate is. Granted some of them will try to get you to pay more. Sometimes that extra amount is warranted. That is up to you. But to my knowledge, the going rate has been the going rate for many years. So none of us should feel we are paying too much. In those years, all other costs have gone up. Gas, medicines, food, prices of cars, etc. These girls have to live too. Lets make sure they get what they deserve.

LexLuther

MrWhatever
01-22-11, 11:14
Did you at least get her name?

This is the reason why alot of girls ask / demand and count the 'tip' upfront.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was pretty new herself.

Did you tell them you had been there before? They probably figured you knew how things worked already.

Like other's have said, go back and make it right. I'm quite sure because of your mistake, you ruined the rest of her day, and thus every customer she had after you, because of her now. Not so trusting attitude.No she wasnt new and I got her name, and I actually made everything right with her and she is good now. .

Also tried out sky (with the right money this time aha) and wow. I'd have to say sky is a better experience just because of the fact they have a sauna, and that the massage is like. Better / longer.

Just felt like a fuller better experience and the place is really clean compared to mist. Honestly, the best would be a mix between mist and sky. They both have thier plusses and minuses.

Take both of thier plusses and you have the perfect spot.

With that said, anyone know any chicks that work at these spots that are in thier midish 20s?

Justforme
01-22-11, 16:53
But who says the going rate needs to be so high? They are extorting and the quality has suffered. In 2003, when I first arrive on this scene the prices were not much different then now. 60 not 80 and tips were about the same given without the hassel because you felt I felt I was getting quality not taken for a ride. The women did what they do and the "tips" were given with a smile and a thank you. Now, the few times I see an AMP I give (like the 15% at a restaurant) because it is the accepted norm. I usually walk away saying, never again.

If you want to compare then and now, no comparison, I never got squeezed for more in those days just squeezed for coming. I do believe, like tipping at a restaurant, tips start at a certain % (for me 15) and go up or DOWN based on attitude and servide.


I think it's time to discard the games people play regarding how much various things cost. I have never seen the point in it. From now on, let's just call $100 $100. Nobody benefits from the games people are playing with this.

These girls are risking everything to do what they do. They risk their freedom, their health (both physical and mental) , and God knows what else. In exchange for that, they deserve to get at least whatever the going rate is. Granted some of them will try to get you to pay more. Sometimes that extra amount is warranted. That is up to you. But to my knowledge, the going rate has been the going rate for many years. So none of us should feel we are paying too much. In those years, all other costs have gone up. Gas, medicines, food, prices of cars, etc. These girls have to live too. Lets make sure they get what they deserve.

LexLuther

Ginger Man
01-23-11, 10:13
Gingerman,

Is Smile 2nd or 3rd floor in that building? Or is there just one now? Second floor. I do not know if the third is still open, I hope not.

Ginger Man
01-23-11, 10:14
But who says the going rate needs to be so high? They are extorting and the quality has suffered. In 2003, when I first arrive on this scene the prices were not much different then now. 60 not 80 and tips were about the same given without the hassel because you felt I felt I was getting quality not taken for a ride. The women did what they do and the "tips" were given with a smile and a thank you. Now, the few times I see an AMP I give (like the 15% at a restaurant) because it is the accepted norm. I usually walk away saying, never again.

If you want to compare then and now, no comparison, I never got squeezed for more in those days just squeezed for coming. I do believe, like tipping at a restaurant, tips start at a certain % (for me 15) and go up or DOWN based on attitude and servide. I don't know what to say. You need to stick with porn and a kleenex. Just pay the rate or don't do the hobby.

Drunker Irish
01-23-11, 12:30
I don't know what to say. You need to stick with porn and a kleenex. Just pay the rate or don't do the hobby.I have to agree with GingerM


You're screwing it up for the rest of us. The product is starting to improve because mongers are willing to put a little more into it, and you want to go back to old pricing? Its 2011, the 90s were twenty years ago. Then again, that probably explains why were getting 40 year old providers because you're sticking to the same price of old.

Twenty year old in 1990 is getting a $100 so same provider twenty years later at 40 gets $100. Makes sense now.

Metalmanix
01-23-11, 13:15
I'm pretty sure most of the people weighing in on this issue need to take an intro micro-econ class.

Drofnalb
01-23-11, 14:54
I am not trying to attack.

But Justforme sounds like your attitude, and the reasons mongers are hated.

You do not respect the amount of work that these angels provide us, if you had to do what they do for a week you might break down and cry.

Not that this hobby must be horrible. It can be wonderful if there is mutual respect.

Some girls in this business like making you feel wonderful. When you try to make them fell wonderful everyone wins!

Your response is so harsh, I want to go back to the 80s and pay 80s prices. I am sure that you are not paying 80s prices for anything else in your life except the hard work of these magnificent women.


But who says the going rate needs to be so high? They are extorting and the quality has suffered. In 2003, when I first arrive on this scene the prices were not much different then now. 60 not 80 and tips were about the same given without the hassel because you felt I felt I was getting quality not taken for a ride. The women did what they do and the "tips" were given with a smile and a thank you. Now, the few times I see an AMP I give (like the 15% at a restaurant) because it is the accepted norm. I usually walk away saying, never again.

If you want to compare then and now, no comparison, I never got squeezed for more in those days just squeezed for coming. I do believe, like tipping at a restaurant, tips start at a certain % (for me 15) and go up or DOWN based on attitude and servide.

Sleazebum
01-23-11, 18:16
Everyone here knows how tight I am with my money. I will squeeze a penny until Abe Lincoln begs for mercy!

HOWEVER; you need to wake up and know that things cost more now than they did in the '80s or even the '90s!

You must simply STFU and pay the going rate as instructed by your fellow hobbiers in here.

Even as stingy as I am I have given in so I now take $200 into the place with me. I pay whatever the house fee is and try to get away with just $100 for the tip for full service. If that causes an issue I fork over the balance of my $200 and just let it go.

Good service is worth it! I also usually bring a gift with me. A sack of citrus goes well with them. Clementines seem to be the one they like best.

So. Shut Up! Pay Up! Give Up!

JJ


But who says the going rate needs to be so high? They are extorting and the quality has suffered. In 2003, when I first arrive on this scene the prices were not much different then now. 60 not 80 and tips were about the same given without the hassel because you felt I felt I was getting quality not taken for a ride. The women did what they do and the "tips" were given with a smile and a thank you. Now, the few times I see an AMP I give (like the 15% at a restaurant) because it is the accepted norm. I usually walk away saying, never again.

If you want to compare then and now, no comparison, I never got squeezed for more in those days just squeezed for coming. I do believe, like tipping at a restaurant, tips start at a certain % (for me 15) and go up or DOWN based on attitude and servide.

Ticker1051
01-24-11, 01:41
I've been a participant before and am looking forward to playing again. I've asked this before and no one will reply. I don't want to under tip. All I want is a TS and HJ, maybe even a 69 positioned HJ. What is the appropriate tip for that?

Be safe everyone.

Ears1foru
01-24-11, 02:10
I have read 5 pages of comments about how cheap things use to be and all the worry about prices. Can someone post what AMPs are currently open, and where they are located thanks.

Freshly Snipes
01-24-11, 08:09
Good service is worth it! I also usually bring a gift with me. A sack of citrus goes well with them. Clementines seem to be the one they like best.

JJGifts? To each his own I guess, but if I wanted to do the whole 'bringing gifts' thing, giving her a massage, or any of the other things I've heard some of you guys doing, I'd go out and get a real date. I like to keep things strictly professionally, and non personal. Works best for all parties. The required house fee and tip is gift enough.

Jjcars
01-24-11, 13:48
I've been a participant before and am looking forward to playing again. I've asked this before and no one will reply. I don't want to under tip. All I want is a TS and HJ, maybe even a 69 positioned HJ. What is the appropriate tip for that?

Be safe everyone.I visit the ones close to I-77 and the normal rate is $60-half hour $80 for whole hour. At Galaxy, you get TS with the hour. The employees always do the HR HE without asking for a tip. I usually leave $20 or more anyway. But to get them more involved I pull out $40 and leave by my belongings and het the HR as well as much more involvement from the provider (ie. Great views roaming, just overall more involvement). I don't go any further than that with them so that is why my gratitude showing is a little smaller.

Hofi35
01-24-11, 16:39
Gifts? To each his own I guess, but if I wanted to do the whole 'bringing gifts' thing, giving her a massage, or any of the other things I've heard some of you guys doing, I'd go out and get a real date. I like to keep things strictly professionally, and non personal. Works best for all parties. The required house fee and tip is gift enough.No need for gifts. They make so much cash, we can only dream. Working hard? We all do. Just brink good mood, be a gentleman not asshole, if the service is not good try someone else, or some other place. Giving massage on the other hand is good idea sometimes. That always worked for me as to receive some extras off the menu.

Hofi35
01-24-11, 16:42
I have read 5 pages of comments about how cheap things use to be and all the worry about prices. Can someone post what AMPs are currently open, and where they are located thanks.Or try different sources. There is always way to find them.

Ginger Man
01-24-11, 16:48
No need for gifts. They make so much cash, we can only dream. Working hard? We all do. Just brink good mood, be a gentleman not asshole, if the service is not good try someone else, or some other place. Giving massage on the other hand is good idea sometimes. That always worked for me as to receive some extras off the menu.The gals I talk to say business is slow. With quality on the uptick this is tragic!

I am doing what I can, but there is just so much $$ in the budget. I think people know what to pay, and what to expect. Let's get out there and support our local AMPs!

Hofi35
01-24-11, 16:57
I think it's time to discard the games people play regarding how much various things cost. I have never seen the point in it. From now on, let's just call $100 $100. Nobody benefits from the games people are playing with this.

These girls are risking everything to do what they do. They risk their freedom, their health (both physical and mental) , and God knows what else. In exchange for that, they deserve to get at least whatever the going rate is. Granted some of them will try to get you to pay more. Sometimes that extra amount is warranted. That is up to you. But to my knowledge, the going rate has been the going rate for many years. So none of us should feel we are paying too much. In those years, all other costs have gone up. Gas, medicines, food, prices of cars, etc. These girls have to live too. Lets make sure they get what they deserve.

LexLutherNo one is forcing them to do what they do. Most of them started this work back in their country, then got connections here, came here to make same or more money for half the job. It makes no difference $ 100 or $ 150 tip. At the end of the day it's ton of cash in pocket of some old lady. I don't mind to pay for young (20-25). Haven't seen that in AMP yet. The one I thought was 28, was actually 37. Go figure.

By the way, who is in control of the "going rate"? Who makes the decisions?

Drofnalb
01-24-11, 20:59
First, I want to suggest something to everyone on this board. Lets not refer to the $100 payment for service as a tip anymore, it is not accurate as IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PAY A TIP BEFORE SERVICE IS RENDERED, AMPs are no different. You pay ahead of time because that is the fee.

Suggested terminology might be something like this:
HOUSE: $70.
GIRL SERVICE (before service) : $100.
GIRL TIP (after service) : $10. - $30.

$100 IS NOT THE TIP, IT IS THE BASE PRICE FOR SERVICE.
She does not get any of the $70 for the house.

If you are the type of person who goes to restaurants and leaves without paying a tip to the waiter then leaving after paying $100 "makes sense".

If you pay a tip to the waiter at the restaurant and don't pay a tip to your AMP provider then you are not being consistent.

Most girls are worth at least $10 extra as you prepare to exit.

If you pay $100 for bad service and pay $100 for good service then the girls are incentivized to give bad service, aren't they?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Next, the review.

Lilly@2nd floor.

Had an experience identical to Ginger Man (I consider him my brother as we share so many women in our lives).

Waited forever for them to let me in, as they were still not answering phones.
Went to see Deedee (or Peedee) who was not available, Lilly worked fine.

LARS™ Rating.
-----------------
Age: no idea (maybe mid 30's)
Height: medium.
Cup: A.
English: poor.
Personality: good.
Looks: 5 1/2 face. 6 1/2 body.
Butt & Legs: 8, round and nice.
Massage: slightly below average.

Conversation was limited, but she worked hard to do a good job and was very accomodating and patient.

HOUSE: $70.
SERVICE: $100.
TIP: $30.

Probably only deserved $20 tip, but I am anxious for this place to come on line full time.
I AM TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE!

Finally to ease the tension in the room I leave you with this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PnY8KaegEQ

Jjcars
01-25-11, 08:45
I visit the ones close to I-77 and the normal rate is $60-half hour $80 for whole hour. At Galaxy, you get TS with the hour. The employees always do the HR HE without asking for a tip. I usually leave $20 or more anyway. But to get them more involved I pull out $40 and leave by my belongings and het the HR as well as much more involvement from the provider (ie. Great views roaming, just overall more involvement). I don't go any further than that with them so that is why my gratitude showing is a little smaller.Sorry, replied to this guys question thinking I was in my Charlotte forum rather than DC. The names and locations of my post won't make sense in this forum. My apologies.

Dcfan77
01-25-11, 16:47
Thats considered FS. So 100.


I've been a participant before and am looking forward to playing again. I've asked this before and no one will reply. I don't want to under tip. All I want is a TS and HJ, maybe even a 69 positioned HJ. What is the appropriate tip for that?

Be safe everyone.

Dcfan77
01-25-11, 16:54
House fee now a days is 70. 80.

Then in the room you pay the provider 100 for FS. Just put the 100 on the table before she comes back from giving the house fee to the mamsan. Once she see the money she relaxes and knows you have been there before.


Did you at least get her name?

This is the reason why alot of girls ask / demand and count the 'tip' upfront.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was pretty new herself.

Did you tell them you had been there before? They probably figured you knew how things worked already.

Like other's have said, go back and make it right. I'm quite sure because of your mistake, you ruined the rest of her day, and thus every customer she had after you, because of her now. Not so trusting attitude.

Dcfan77
01-25-11, 16:57
Don't give her 200. Thats ridiculous. There are many places in dc and mist isn't one to give 200 bones. Just go to a different spot.


You must take a bucket of money and go back there! The fees for that place is $70. 00 for the session PLUS $100. 00 for all the extras.

Try again. Ask for the same girl and give her $200. 00 over the $70. 00 house fee to make up. If you do so, you will become a hero in their eyes and get special treatment on later trips. If you do not. Best just stay away.

JJ

Dcfan77
01-25-11, 17:01
Hey guys,

Does that korean corner spot on New york ave still open. Please give me some more info.

Thanks


Read this post about Downtown and it bought back some great memories. I met Suzi a few times and she was a wild one. Loved the oil, but also like to play with poop shoot. I always liked having a lineup and picking out my provider. Haven't been to DC in a few years, but last time met Ruby at Star. I go to Detriot a lot now and have a good time a M1 there. Maybe I venture up to DC soon to check out the scene.

Jjcars
01-25-11, 17:49
Could a few of you DC locals help a frequent traveler out? Most every trip I make to DC I end up strolling through Chinatown one night looking for AMPs. I've never been able to locate one just by walking around. But I also haven't had much luck online. I always stay in Dupont and there are a few options there but I keep thinking some will pop up in Chinatown. Is there really nothing there? It would make sense to have some there.

Ginger Man
01-25-11, 18:06
"Had an experience identical to Ginger Man (I consider him my brother as we share so many women in our lives)."

Hey! Not with my wife you don't!

Just kidding. Lilly, by the way, is the universal age of all providers. 29.

Spambot
01-26-11, 20:02
Anyone know if she's still in the area?

Thanks

Benchseats Rock
01-27-11, 00:08
I have read 5 pages of comments about how cheap things use to be and all the worry about prices. Can someone post what AMPs are currently open, and where they are located thanks.You've only read. 015% of the forum. You don't have to read it all Necessarily, but you need to read more of it.

Everything you want to know is already here, you just have to compulsively sift through it. That being said, it's well worth the effort.

Bench

IluvSmellyFish
01-27-11, 14:12
But I would also say that it depends on the girl as well. Same place 1 time the girl did everything for me, next time I got a girl that did the bear minimum. So it depends some treat you like kings others don'tWent Mist and had a great time with a provider. Recommended her and the location to my friend. He indicated that the service wasn't the same. He's older, not as fit, and not as talkative. Remember, they are people too. If you dress a little nicer, keep yourself groomed a little better, and treat her like a friend instead of "just another provider", you're likely to get a little bit more than just the minimum.

IluvSmellyFish
01-27-11, 14:29
Could a few of you DC locals help a frequent traveler out? Most every trip I make to DC I end up strolling through Chinatown one night looking for AMPs. I've never been able to locate one just by walking around. But I also haven't had much luck online. I always stay in Dupont and there are a few options there but I keep thinking some will pop up in Chinatown. Is there really nothing there? It would make sense to have some there.Unlike other cities like NYC or Philadelphia, where you can trip over an AMP walking through chinatown, I don't think DC has an AMP in its C' town. The Verizon center foot traffic brought with it a lot of different commercial chains, which in turn jacked up rents for real estate in the area. Not sure whether it makes much business sense for an AMP to pay a premium rent just to set up shop in C'town. Remember, most of the providers in AMPs seem to be Korean girls, not Chinese. This probably means that they set up shop in the C'town's because of the central location, relative saftey, and CHEAP rents. Not because they're Chinese.

Sounds like you already know about the locations in Dupont. There are other options in N. Va, but between what's available in Dupont, and the three different spots I've been to in N. Va, I've always been disappointed with the disparate levels of service, price, and selection that was offered to me at the N. Va locations. Granted, the actual massages were better, but if that's what interests you. Then you're probably on the wrong website.

Jackbenimble17
01-27-11, 14:56
Could a few of you DC locals help a frequent traveler out? Most every trip I make to DC I end up strolling through Chinatown one night looking for AMPs. I've never been able to locate one just by walking around. But I also haven't had much luck online. I always stay in Dupont and there are a few options there but I keep thinking some will pop up in Chinatown. Is there really nothing there? It would make sense to have some there.Chinatown is a popular area and unfortunately the high rents keep the AMP away. There used to be a place on 10th St NW (across from Ford's Theater) that was a good AMP. Think the old name is Royal. Is that place still around?

Ginger Man
01-28-11, 06:36
Chinatown is a popular area and unfortunately the high rents keep the AMP away. There used to be a place on 10th St NW (across from Ford's Theater) that was a good AMP. Think the old name is Royal. Is that place still around?There was Royal and (sigh) Happiness. All torn down, just facades now. If walls could talk, though.

There is a sketchy place in Chinatown, not an AMP at all, really. Shell Green is the best now, if you hit it at the right time.

Jjcars
01-28-11, 08:26
There was Royal and (sigh) Happiness. All torn down, just facades now. If walls could talk, though.

There is a sketchy place in Chinatown, not an AMP at all, really. Shell Green is the best now, if you hit it at the right time.Thank all you guys for the recommendations. I may give it another pass and see and maybe look for Shell. Makes sense why there arent more options in Ctown. Either way, I sure plan go enjoy some time around Dupont.

Happy Hunting guys!

Drunker Irish
01-28-11, 20:13
Anyone know if she's still in the area?

ThanksI wish. If she is, I would like to know. Wow, she was awesome. Top three providers, period. Paid off amazingly well being a repeat customer. Did things in the sauna no other provider ever did, just amazing. Sigh.

Freshly Snipes
01-29-11, 22:30
Great to walk down memory lane;

Annie from DT still my atf.

Ginger Man
01-30-11, 07:14
Great to walk down memory lane;

Annie from DT still my atf. The Thai girl from Yoko on Florida Ave. So sweet, so innocent looking, so perverted. (OMG, you want me to WHAT?)

Horsetrader
01-30-11, 20:59
Over the last few months I've been visiting various AMPs about 3 or 4 times a month. Sometimes Baltimore, sometimes DC, and sometimes other cities. I've been to 1215 four times since the fall because I've always gotten a good looking girl and only had to wait once (though they were closed for a while). They consistently underperform their competition down the street and in other cities. Table shower has always been bland and the massage has been very poor quality. I always get a standard DC finish, but always lackluster. At other places I probably average about 50 minutes per visit, at 1215 I'm probably averaging about 30 minutes. Today was only 26 minutes from getting off the elevator to getting back on it.

I'll be going to other places where the girls may not be as good looking, but where the services are better.

I'd like to read other reviews from this place, good or bad.

Horsetrader

Readerx
01-30-11, 21:52
FS: I heartily second your comments on Annie.

Be safe,

Rx

Drofnalb
01-30-11, 22:40
Horsetrader thanks for the review, I respect your judgment.
But I could not disagree more. 1215 is a gem on the DC scene.

They are clean and private unlike the competition.
When I go there the floors are clean enough to eat off of.
Even the table shower is clean.

Also they offer a very nice sauna which is often not available at other places.
Plus I have had some very nice ladies there.

Getting 26 minutes will happen if you go for the finish up front. Happens to me all the time.
I do not blame them, because the finish can be exhausting, leaving the lady needing a rest.
If you want to stay longer I would say, ask for a longer sauna session, and let the massage go for longer before you go for the finish. 1215 is a place where a good massage is possible (and probable) , this is not the case at many locations in the area.

1215 might be my #1 spot, I think I will go tomorrow.


Over the last few months I've been visiting various AMPs about 3 or 4 times a month. Sometimes Baltimore, sometimes DC, and sometimes other cities. I've been to 1215 four times since the fall because I've always gotten a good looking girl and only had to wait once (though they were closed for a while). They consistently underperform their competition down the street and in other cities. Table shower has always been bland and the massage has been very poor quality. I always get a standard DC finish, but always lackluster. At other places I probably average about 50 minutes per visit, at 1215 I'm probably averaging about 30 minutes. Today was only 26 minutes from getting off the elevator to getting back on it.

I'll be going to other places where the girls may not be as good looking, but where the services are better.

I'd like to read other reviews from this place, good or bad.

Horsetrader

Horsetrader
01-30-11, 23:06
Horsetrader thanks for the review, I respect your judgment.

But I could not disagree more. 1215 is a gem on the DC scene. Thanks for the reply, perhaps I've been unlucky at Sky (or lucky at other places). I have to agree that the place has been absolutely spotless, much cleaner than nearly every other AMP. I'm never one to rush to the finish because a good massage is nice. But my last 4 Sky massages have been poor quality and very short. I'll monitor responses from other mongers and I may put them back in my rotation.

Benx88
01-31-11, 17:02
The Thai girl from Yoko on Florida Ave. So sweet, so innocent looking, so perverted. (OMG, you want me to WHAT?)Hello, all. As a first time poster let me just say I am loving this forum, learning all there is to know about the mp scene. I was just wondering which mp you were talking about. I would love to try out a Thai girl rather than a Korean girl, as the girls are all mainly Korean. Also if you don't mind could you give the stats about her?

Thanks!

Benx88
01-31-11, 17:09
The Thai girl from Yoko on Florida Ave. So sweet, so innocent looking, so perverted. (OMG, you want me to WHAT?)Hi all. As a first time poster let me just say I am loving this forum, learning all that needs to be known in the mp scene. I was just wondering which mp you were talking about as I would love to try out a Thai girl instead of the usual Koreans. Also if you don't mind could you let me know the stats of this girl? I would really appreciate it and I'll let you guys know how it goes!

NukeyNuke
01-31-11, 18:40
I remember the Thai girl from Yoko. Good one!

I submit to you, for my walk down memory lane. Candy (or maybe Candi. We didn't do a whole lot of talking or spelling the many times I saw her) , from Ginza. I still drive past that place and shed a tear.


The Thai girl from Yoko on Florida Ave. So sweet, so innocent looking, so perverted. (OMG, you want me to WHAT?)

Drofnalb
01-31-11, 21:17
Got mama on the phone tonight, she finally admits that they are open now (they were claiming to be closed until today).

I asked what time they will open in the morning, she said 10am.

I asked if Deedee was there and to my dismay she told me "Deedee not here anymore we have new girl, skinny girl" (Lilly).

Was I just imagining things? Is it possible that this hot chick Deedee that I saw a few weeks ago is really gone before they officially open? Did she even have any other customer while in DC besides me?

This hobby fucks with your head. Somebody else on the board please tell me you saw Deedee on the 2nd floor so that I can rest in peace.

Gasp, might I venture to say *ATF* Probably not, I have seen better looking, but she had attitude. I guess it is like you old timers who talk about the good old days, it is healthy for us to get lost in our memories from time to time.

Pimp Trick
02-01-11, 05:51
I hate to ask, but could someone PM the Greenbelt AMP to the Trickster.

I was not able to find anything on a search.

BTW, this is my first time posting in the AMP section. Good reads in this section.

Elmo12
02-01-11, 11:16
I decided this would be a good time for a 1st post. A little comparison between the walk up and elevator locations. First the elevator. Nice location easy to get in and out. Interior was a bit more upscale. Met by Lora at the door, tall 40ish with big ol' titties. TS was decent but was a little quick. Attention to the proper areas. Back in the room massage was about a 5. But playful teasing before the flip was extended and excellent. Couldn't wait for the flip. Asked me what I wanted and I suggested BJ for. 8 which was acceptable. Began by strattling me 69 style. Very good technique. I was given full access no rush. Overall great service and I gave her an extra. 2 because I am a nice guy.

Walk up location is a little harder to come and go unnoticed due to restaurants and bars close by. Interior is a bit more run down. Met by mamasan. Said I was there before. She sends Nicole into my room. TS was OK but very rushed. Now the massage was very good. I would say about an 8. She actually has a decent technique. Not much tease later on just the standard proposal FS $. Start was CBJ lyig down facing me. Awesome view as this girl is about a 8 in looks. Nice bolt ons as well. Moved to a series of positions and completed the deed. A bit more massage after which was a nice touch.

Overall I'd have to say a an edge to walk up location. Personnel at got very high marks. Location and decor score higher at elevator location but not really why I went there.

StartingOver
02-01-11, 12:38
Exactly what / where is the walk up and the elevator? I have not been to a DC AMP in over a year and need the addresses, please.

Thanks!

SO


I decided this would be a good time for a 1st post. A little comparison between the walk up and elevator locations. First the elevator. Nice location easy to get in and out. Interior was a bit more upscale. Met by Lora at the door, tall 40ish with big ol' titties. TS was decent but was a little quick. Attention to the proper areas. Back in the room massage was about a 5. But playful teasing before the flip was extended and excellent. Couldn't wait for the flip. Asked me what I wanted and I suggested BJ for. 8 which was acceptable. Began by strattling me 69 style. Very good technique. I was given full access no rush. Overall great service and I gave her an extra. 2 because I am a nice guy.

Walk up location is a little harder to come and go unnoticed due to restaurants and bars close by. Interior is a bit more run down. Met by mamasan. Said I was there before. She sends Nicole into my room. TS was OK but very rushed. Now the massage was very good. I would say about an 8. She actually has a decent technique. Not much tease later on just the standard proposal FS $. Start was CBJ lyig down facing me. Awesome view as this girl is about a 8 in looks. Nice bolt ons as well. Moved to a series of positions and completed the deed. A bit more massage after which was a nice touch.

Overall I'd have to say a an edge to walk up location. Personnel at got very high marks. Location and decor score higher at elevator location but not really why I went there.

Jackbenimble17
02-01-11, 17:19
My ATF was a gal named Tisha from DT. We meet a few times in DC and about a month later I was at a Spa on Rt. 1 in Laurel and guess who came in? My luck I guess, but we exchanged numbers and got together over the next 6 months several times outside the AMP. Lets just say WOW, this gal was not only a great provider, but a nymph as well. I wish that number still worked, she really knew how to push my buttons. :sigh:

Ginger Man
02-01-11, 17:46
My ATF was a gal named Tisha from DT. We meet a few times in DC and about a month later I was at a Spa on Rt. 1 in Laurel and guess who came in? My luck I guess, but we exchanged numbers and got together over the next 6 months several times outside the AMP. Lets just say WOW, this gal was not only a great provider, but a nymph as well. I wish that number still worked, she really knew how to push my buttons. :sigh:Tisha, if it is the same one, started out at Rainbow. She worked at Vermont as recently as last year. I was surprised to see her. I screwed it up when she was at Mystic. I posted on the other board about it, then she left. When I ran into her at Vermont, I asked what happened? She said,"Some asshole posted about me on the BD board, and it got so busy I had to quit."

Needless to say, I did not tell her I was that asshole.

Ginger Man
02-01-11, 17:50
Hi all. As a first time poster let me just say I am loving this forum, learning all that needs to be known in the mp scene. I was just wondering which mp you were talking about as I would love to try out a Thai girl instead of the usual Koreans. Also if you don't mind could you let me know the stats of this girl? I would really appreciate it and I'll let you guys know how it goes!The first thing you need to do, unless you are Marty McFly, is build a time machine and go back to 1996. If you have one, PM me, I will set you up!

Jackbenimble17
02-02-11, 12:37
Tisha, if it is the same one, started out at Rainbow. She worked at Vermont as recently as last year. I was surprised to see her. I screwed it up when she was at Mystic. I posted on the other board about it, then she left. When I ran into her at Vermont, I asked what happened? She said,"Some asshole posted about me on the BD board, and it got so busy I had to quit."

Needless to say, I did not tell her I was that asshole. Was she an older provider. 30ish? If so, that's Tisha. And would love to see her again. Back channel and let me know if you run into her again.

Jjcars
02-02-11, 23:56
I went that same night. Asked for Dee Dee, she's nit there, sorry. Just Lilly who is a nice spinner but probably not as good as the girl you want. I'll leave a review when I have more time.


Got mama on the phone tonight, she finally admits that they are open now (they were claiming to be closed until today).

I asked what time they will open in the morning, she said 10am.

I asked if Deedee was there and to my dismay she told me "Deedee not here anymore we have new girl, skinny girl" (Lilly).

Was I just imagining things? Is it possible that this hot chick Deedee that I saw a few weeks ago is really gone before they officially open? Did she even have any other customer while in DC besides me?

This hobby fucks with your head. Somebody else on the board please tell me you saw Deedee on the 2nd floor so that I can rest in peace.

Gasp, might I venture to say *ATF* Probably not, I have seen better looking, but she had attitude. I guess it is like you old timers who talk about the good old days, it is healthy for us to get lost in our memories from time to time.

Dirty Dog
02-03-11, 19:00
I had a few hours to spare for some play. After I found a place to park I figure I would try to see if theres anything roaming the streets but no luck there so I went to the Mist. There girls were fairly decent looking. The TS was nice and I was cleaned in all the right places. I realy wanted a good massage and once I got back into the room and she started the massage I relized this Is not going to be anything good. She asked what I wanted and I should have just took the small loss of the door fee but the little guy did not let me. Fees were the same as most AMPs but I was in and out in about 25 minutes.

Tsi Tsa
02-04-11, 00:04
I thank this place for providing the info I needed to nerve up going to the Myst. I went the Thursday before new years and all was success, thanks to a therapist known as "Shera." I know, should of posted this a while ago.

OldPainter1
02-04-11, 13:50
Will be visiting DC next week. Can anyone recommend a good AMP to visit. Also looking for any good AMP out in Alexandria.

Drofnalb
02-06-11, 21:17
I have started a new thread: Messages to city hall.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9785-Messages-to-city-hall&p=1135332#post1135332

Since we are all being monitored on this site, perhaps it is now time to let those in power know how we feel.

This hobby has been one of the best things to happen to me and I want it legalized.
The problem is most of us hide in the shadows (for practical reasons).

I have proposals on how we could eventually legalize brothels.
I think that the District of Columbia would be the best place to try and start this.

Imagine how glorious is could be.
Brothels no longer paying bribes to corrupt police forces. Ladies earning the money they deserve.

The current economic environment offers us a great opportunity to legalize, the answer TAX SEX WORK!

I am ready to fight, please join and contribute to this thread if you feel the same as I do.
Let it be a bridge between us and government!

Lets create a safe and profitable environment for sex work!

Tsi Tsa
02-07-11, 00:21
There are benefits to legalizing this, one main benefit is safety. There is no safety for the ladies, the gentlemen, and the location if something should go wrong. She cannot call the police, you cannot, completely compromising everyone's security.

Countries that legalize this usually tax the business owner for running this type of business. The business then runs according to government standards, (that usually set safety, and hygiene standards for the establishment) , and require the business to show proof that their employees are safe through blood tests.

But I doubt of any political movements holding ground any time soon on this issue.


I have started a new thread: Messages to city hall.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9785-Messages-to-city-hall&p=1135332#post1135332

Since we are all being monitored on this site, perhaps it is now time to let those in power know how we feel.

This hobby has been one of the best things to happen to me and I want it legalized.

The problem is most of us hide in the shadows (for practical reasons).

I have proposals on how we could eventually legalize brothels.

I think that the District of Columbia would be the best place to try and start this.

Imagine how glorious is could be.

Brothels no longer paying bribes to corrupt police forces. Ladies earning the money they deserve.

The current economic environment offers us a great opportunity to legalize, the answer TAX SEX WORK!

I am ready to fight, please join and contribute to this thread if you feel the same as I do.

Let it be a bridge between us and government!

Lets create a safe and profitable environment for sex work!

Yoyo Spa
02-07-11, 02:32
I've been a participant before and am looking forward to playing again. I've asked this before and no one will reply. I don't want to under tip. All I want is a TS and HJ, maybe even a 69 positioned HJ. What is the appropriate tip for that?

Be safe everyone.Ticker,

The correct answer to your question is to look in the NoVa forum. In that part of town, the level of service you desire is the norm. And. 4.6 is reasonable.

Drofnalb
02-07-11, 06:30
When I was born only two states had legal gambling, Nevada and New Jersey.
Since then almost every state has legalized gambling to some degree in an attempt to fix budget problems.

When I was born only one state had legal brothels, Nevada.
Why have other states not joined? The Nevada experiment has been a success.


There are benefits to legalizing this, one main benefit is safety. There is no safety for the ladies, the gentlemen, and the location if something should go wrong. She cannot call the police, you cannot, completely compromising everyone's security.

Countries that legalize this usually tax the business owner for running this type of business. The business then runs according to government standards, (that usually set safety, and hygiene standards for the establishment) , and require the business to show proof that their employees are safe through blood tests.

But I doubt of any political movements holding ground any time soon on this issue.

Tanaka
02-07-11, 18:19
When I was born only two states had legal gambling, Nevada and New Jersey.

Since then almost every state has legalized gambling to some degree in an attempt to fix budget problems.

When I was born only one state had legal brothels, Nevada.

Why have other states not joined? The Nevada experiment has been a success. I have a better example: Singapore. They know how to make money: first they introduced legal brothels (Geylang) , now they legalized gambling (can you imaging: local people are paying $100 just to enter casino!). No wonder they have such a budget surplus.

Drunker Irish
02-07-11, 19:28
The problem is that law enforcement only enforces the law, not make the laws. Any politicians reading this board are on the illegal side of the game and are in no position to change the law.

The AIDS argument does carry weight. If this town is as liberal and progressive as it proclaims to be, those living in Tenleytown should be VOCAL about legalizing prostitution to enforce laws and rules that safeguard sexworkers and their clients-as well as require regular check-ups, STD screening, and the mandatory use of condoms.

But, oh, wait they are the ones that didn't want an adult bookstore in their neighborhood.

Hypocrites, all of them.

Drofnalb
02-07-11, 22:06
Unfortunately with the new administration in DC it looks like we might be on the verge of a new round of closings.

There are things we could do about this if we stood together.

If any AMP workers are reading this article please be cautious in your dealings.
Contact us directly if you need help or funds.
We are in the background and will do our best to defend you from these animals.

For those workers not on the web I personally will be making the rounds over the next few days to help warn these angels of the coming harassment. Please do the same.

Jasmine is a great example, it is rarely reviewed on this site, but still it got raided.
There is no option for us except to unite.
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According to the city’s recent D.C. Superior Court filing, Jasmine Therapy has had a history of prostitution arrests. The complaint says the officer stopped by the business about 2:15 p.m. one day last month. He met an Asian female, described as “D1” in court papers, and the pair walked to “room No. 2,” where the woman asked for a $70 “house fee.”

The officer gave her $200, the records show.

The defendants named in the civil complaint filed by the D.C. attorney general’s office could not be reached for comment last week, and a hearing in the case is set for this week.

When police raided the business, located on the 1800 block of M Street Northwest, they found “a large quantity of U.S. currency hidden in lotion dispensers with false bottoms, and hidden condoms.”

Authorities said they seized more than $70,000 overall, including money that D.C. police officers had paid out during their undercover work.

In court papers, authorities want a judge to order Jasmine Therapy closed, saying it operates as a front for a house of prostitution.

Police raided the business after a different visit by an undercover D.C. police officer, who also gave $200 after being asked for $70.

According to the complaint, the officer also took off his clothes and headed to the shower room, but declined a massage afterward, saying he didn’t have the time. The woman “made a sexual motion simulating intercourse,” left the room and returned with a condom, court filings say.

That was when police raided the business, acting on a signal from the officer. The two women, identified only as D1 and D2 in the court papers, were arrested on charges of solicitation and giving massages without a license.

122965

122966

Capricaone
02-08-11, 10:19
Well it was fun while it lasted. Another round of closings will occur, the scene will die down for a while and eventually come back. That's what always happens.


Unfortunately with the new administration in DC it looks like we might be on the verge of a new round of closings.

There are things we could do about this if we stood together.

If any AMP workers are reading this article please be cautious in your dealings.

Contact us directly if you need help or funds.

We are in the background and will do our best to defend you from these animals.

For those workers not on the web I personally will be making the rounds over the next few days to help warn these angels of the coming harassment. Please do the same.

Jasmine is a great example, it is rarely reviewed on this site, but still it got raided.

There is no option for us except to unite.

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According to the city's recent D. C. Superior Court filing, Jasmine Therapy has had a history of prostitution arrests. The complaint says the officer stopped by the business about 2:15 pm one day last month. He met an Asian female, described as 'D1' in court papers, and the pair walked to 'room No. 2, ' where the woman asked for a $70 'house fee. '

The officer gave her $200, the records show.

The defendants named in the civil complaint filed by the D. C. Attorney general's office could not be reached for comment last week, and a hearing in the case is set for this week.

When police raided the business, located on the 1800 block of M Street Northwest, they found 'a large quantity of USA currency hidden in lotion dispensers with false bottoms, and hidden condoms. '

Authorities said they seized more than $70, 000 overall, including money that D. C. Police officers had paid out during their undercover work.

In court papers, authorities want a judge to order Jasmine Therapy closed, saying it operates as a front for a house of prostitution.

Police raided the business after a different visit by an undercover D. C. Police officer, who also gave $200 after being asked for $70.

According to the complaint, the officer also took off his clothes and headed to the shower room, but declined a massage afterward, saying he didn't have the time. The woman 'made a sexual motion simulating intercourse, ' left the room and returned with a condom, court filings say.

That was when police raided the business, acting on a signal from the officer. The two women, identified only as D1 and D2 in the court papers, were arrested on charges of solicitation and giving massages without a license.

122965

122966

TravelR
02-08-11, 11:43
122965So sad, and D1 was my favorite.

Max #01
02-08-11, 21:04
I've been lucky enough to have traveled regularly to Europe. The hobby is 100% legal in countries like Germany. I go back there and spend my money on hotels, food, and rental cars. Pouring hundreds of Euros into their economy. To participate in the hobby.

DC's AMPs allow us to invest in a quality product while depositing a lot of dollars into the city coffers.

They just don't get it.

FYI, I can't believe the cop offered $200 right after the table shower.

I agree with previous posters. We need to make the rounds of our favorite businesses and assure them we will protect them as best as we can.

BKKguy
02-08-11, 22:05
Fellows. I'm Canadian of Belgian descent, where I made my rounds in Quebec as a young one in legal institutions.

I now live in Bangkok (here, in DC briefly for work) and I can truly say, countries or municipalities who understand the economic benefits of our hobby are the enlightened ones. I was in BKK during the red-shirts last year and the economy suffered significantly during that time. Tourism dropped, stores closed, everything halted. Yes- because of protests, but there was also a significant vacuum in the economy because my fellow mongers shied away. Only now have things gotten back to normal economically.

It's been mentioned already in this thread, but where gov'ts get it right, workers are carefully screened for STDs (bad for business if a monger turns up drippy) , businesses are properly taxed, everything is licensed and for the most part orderly. Sure there are still pushy touts, and rip offs to be had. But for the most part, the scene is safe, fun and constant. And that's why places like Singapore, Bangkok, and others are climbing the economic ladder.

USA is always funny to me. So puritanical (appearingly) but also so violent. Ok- off my soap box. Sorry.

Really, I'm sorry the AMP scene has these ebbs and flows here in DC. And moreso, I'm sorry the ladies who work in them are losing their livelihoods, their inability to send their families remittances, subsidize educations, etc.

Sucks for the game, but really boyz it sucks for the girls we enjoy.


I've been lucky enough to have traveled regularly to Europe. The hobby is 100% legal in countries like Germany. I go back there and spend my money on hotels, food, and rental cars. Pouring hundreds of Euros into their economy. To participate in the hobby.

DC's AMPs allow us to invest in a quality product while depositing a lot of dollars into the city coffers.

They just don't get it.

FYI, I can't believe the cop offered $200 right after the table shower.

I agree with previous posters. We need to make the rounds of our favorite businesses and assure them we will protect them as best as we can.

Drofnalb
02-08-11, 22:20
I had a rough day (actually week) at work, things are stressful as expectations are high.

My stress level was off the charts.
Until, I visited my favorite spa. I was met by my regular who I think loves me, or at least loves my tips (which is good enough). She met me in the sauna and gave me the most authentic GFE. I am not arguing that it was real, but in my mind it felt as real as anything I have known.

What she did was lower my stress level by magnitudes. Which in turn lowers my blood pressure and other potential health related stress problems.

What DC Metropolitan does when they close a spa is mess with my physical and mental health.

This is the reason I take these closings so personally. Not only that, it is a complete waste of tax payer dollars.

If my spa girls call me, you can be sure I will be there for them day or night.


I've been lucky enough to have traveled regularly to Europe. The hobby is 100% legal in countries like Germany. I go back there and spend my money on hotels, food, and rental cars. Pouring hundreds of Euros into their economy. To participate in the hobby.

DC's AMPs allow us to invest in a quality product while depositing a lot of dollars into the city coffers.

They just don't get it.

FYI, I can't believe the cop offered $200 right after the table shower.

I agree with previous posters. We need to make the rounds of our favorite businesses and assure them we will protect them as best as we can.

Cesar Romero
02-08-11, 23:03
Well for those of you east of Ohio I have good news. Nicole how was a super star at Sun Spa in Warren, Ohio has relocated to the DC area. She is amazing, especially if you like very affectionate spinners. Anyway, go to the Warren page and do some research, if she sounds like someone you would be interested in spending some time with, send me a PM and I will get you contact information.

Drofnalb
02-09-11, 22:35
Just thinking about things that have changed since I was young.


Almost every state has legal gambling.
Gay men and women can marry in an increasing number of states.
Medical marijuana has be decriminalized in 15 or so states.


The only thing that has made no progress at all is sex work.

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There are many reasons why we allow this treatment.


Many of you have wifes and/or girlfriends and need to keep things hush.
Many of you fear your community or employment standing.
Many of you simply don't give a fuck.


The problem with this however is that people are suffering, if for anything we need to legalize brothels to improve sex worker safety. Yes, sex workers can be abused because of their illegal work status.

I think I have an answer.
I think now is the time, and I think DC is the place. Why DC?


little or no right wing religious political constituency.
largely self contained, no state legislature to deal with.
long been looking for ways to tax visitors and commuters.
little or no imagined image of being family friendly.
has huge budget problems, similar to many other municipalities.
has a thriving existing sex trade.


My plan:
Lets find a politician who will hear us out. A ward member perhaps.
Lets explain to them about the tax potential of decriminalization, there has got to be someone willing to hear us out. There is so much money being spent, DC could take a hefty cut. I would mention to them sex worker safety but honestly I don't think they give a fuck.

Here is a list of various ward members:
http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/wardmembers

I would appreciate if you found someone on the list to e-mail. If you e-mail these people feel free to use a fake e-mail address. Also it would be helpful to use the subject line "TAX BROTHELS NOW DC". Reason, council members don't care about us or about sex workers, they only care about money. Also, if these members keep getting e-mails with the same subject line it will force them to pay attention.

I have been trying to e-mail this cat, his name is Jack Evans.

You see the beauty is all we need is one voice. The problem all along has been that this topic is not on anyone's mind, there has been no debate. When the debate starts it will end just as it has in every other part of the world, we will have legalization with a reasonable period.

Further details will come if I sense interest among you all.

Sleeping Bag
02-11-11, 18:23
Visited 1333 the other day. Hadn't been there in ages. Heck, hadn't been to an AMP in ages. So this visit was all the more pleasing for me. My masseuse was Missy from NYC. About 30ish; a bit older for my taste (I prefer 20-somethings) , but she had a great bod. TS was very thorough. Since I hadn't had a good TS in a long time, it really felt great for me to be scrubbed down well. Massage was superb. She spent a good length of time on my stressed-out shoulders and back. She also massaged both legs, feet, both arms and hands. Definitely total body massage like a pro. Of course, for her outstanding service, with excellent extras (I think you gentlemen know what I mean without me going into details) , tip was covered. I don't think I have ever been disappointed with 1333's excellent service.

A Otay
02-12-11, 11:38
Does anyone really think that the nations capital would actually legalize prostitution? I can see the headlines now. Then shortly after the headlines the USA Congress would overturn the law and make it illegal.


Just thinking about things that have changed since I was young.



Almost every state has legal gambling.

Gay men and women can marry in an increasing number of states.

Medical marijuana has be decriminalized in 15 or so states.



The only thing that has made no progress at all is sex work.

-

There are many reasons why we allow this treatment.



Many of you have wifes and / or girlfriends and need to keep things hush.

Many of you fear your community or employment standing.

Many of you simply don't give a fuck.



The problem with this however is that people are suffering, if for anything we need to legalize brothels to improve sex worker safety. Yes, sex workers can be abused because of their illegal work status.

I think I have an answer.

I think now is the time, and I think DC is the place. Why DC?



little or no right wing religious political constituency.

largely self contained, no state legislature to deal with.

long been looking for ways to tax visitors and commuters.

little or no imagined image of being family friendly.

has huge budget problems, similar to many other municipalities.

has a thriving existing sex trade.



My plan:

Lets find a politician who will hear us out. A ward member perhaps.

Lets explain to them about the tax potential of decriminalization, there has got to be someone willing to hear us out. There is so much money being spent, DC could take a hefty cut. I would mention to them sex worker safety but honestly I don't think they give a fuck.

Here is a list of various ward members:

http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/wardmembers

I would appreciate if you found someone on the list to e-mail. If you e-mail these people feel free to use a fake e-mail address. Also it would be helpful to use the subject line "TAX BROTHELS NOW DC". Reason, council members don't care about us or about sex workers, they only care about money. Also, if these members keep getting e-mails with the same subject line it will force them to pay attention.

I have been trying to e-mail this cat, his name is Jack Evans.

You see the beauty is all we need is one voice. The problem all along has been that this topic is not on anyone's mind, there has been no debate. When the debate starts it will end just as it has in every other part of the world, we will have legalization with a reasonable period.

Further details will come if I sense interest among you all.

Luvulongtime
02-14-11, 01:01
Freshly. It's called being human. After all, they are human too. Treat them right, the good ones will want to stay, or will recognize a good regular (versus a robot who is just strictly professional). And if you went out and got a real date, you wouldn't be commenting and worrying about the hobby, now, would you? .


Gifts? To each his own I guess, but if I wanted to do the whole 'bringing gifts' thing, giving her a massage, or any of the other things I've heard some of you guys doing, I'd go out and get a real date. I like to keep things strictly professionally, and non personal. Works best for all parties. The required house fee and tip is gift enough.

Bigcatt69
02-16-11, 00:18
Heard my favorite walk up spot is gone, is nothing left off dupont circle? Pm me if possible.

Thanks

Mac Jones
02-16-11, 11:34
Saw Coco@Sky. She was much better than when I saw her before. Very good attitude although she is in a hurry.

Lbfm Dog
02-16-11, 20:20
Walked around Dupont Cir today. 1333 and others are closed. Any body have any idea what is going on?

IluvSmellyFish
02-17-11, 00:27
Stopped by my regular place to find that the door frame was covered in tape labeled "evidence". If you've been then you know.

Went down the street, to the place next to a restaurant that a guy with my name would clearly love. You know the one.

Was met at the door by KoKo. Petite, nice, wonderful breasts, good looking face, but her fake eyelashes were a bit distracting.

The TS was rushed but the massage was good. She was clearly impacted by the recent round of closures, and seemed a bit nervous. Once she got comfortable, we had some fun. She let me throw her legs over my shoulders and then I went to work.

All in all, it was time and money well spent.

Ginger Man
02-17-11, 13:56
Walked around Dupont Cir today. 1333 and others are closed. Any body have any idea what is going on?Looks like we will all have to start using Md. And NOVA spas for a while. Plan B kicks in when DC gets shut down. I can't figure why now?

Too Jaded
02-19-11, 17:06
I can't figure why now?Murphy's Law. I was just getting ready to step out of NoVA and venture into DC this weekend. Judging by past board activities though this is like the tide, and before long we'll hopefully have some new places to celebrate.

Mac Jones
02-19-11, 17:26
This week CoCo@Sky Mina@Smile.

Waaaaaay better; but I dig her eyelashes. .

I may or may not have found Mina's panties in my pocket when I got back to the pad. Oops.

Triple E
02-20-11, 12:13
Had some fun at an old favorite (with an old favorite for that matter) at a certain place higher up the red line than closings are happening. Hadn't been in a while, but they're still around, and business seemed pretty slow. First time I've gotten an actual lineup.

A couple of the providers were not my thing, there was a nice Latina I'd have taken if I hadn't seen Salomeh there. I know she treats me very well, so I couldn't resist. Good times. Seniors can PM me for details, but basically, this place is still a bit YMMV, but could use the business.

MikedD
02-20-11, 17:51
After reading the last few pages of posts I figured I would give Sky or Mist a try. I went to Craigslist and Backpage and the only one of the two that advertised was Sky. It gave the address so I tried there. I could not find the address or number or advertisment for Mist. I did some of the tourist thing for a while then tried to find Sky for later that night. I found the address and it did not look good. The only place opened in the building was a psychic reader. He said that Sky was shut down 3 days ago. (I guess since he is a psychic he know what I was there for.) Went to the old Downtown. It is now called Vermont Therapy. 80 for an hour and it did not look promising for later so I left. The place across the street from Archibalds was closed as well. The only other place was M street spa. On the 2nd or 3rd floor. It is now called Smile. You guys probably already knew that. It looked promising so I said I would be back later that night.

Later that night.

Went to Camalots. Nice place. Got there

MikedD
02-20-11, 18:13
After reading the last few pages of posts I figured I would give Sky or Mist a try. I went to Craigslist and Backpage and the only one of the two that advertised was Sky. It gave the address so I tried there. I could not find the address or number or advertisment for Mist. I did some of the tourist thing for a while then tried to find Sky for later that night. I found the address and it did not look good. The only place opened in the building was a psychic reader. He said that Sky was shut down 3 days ago. (I guess since he is a psychic he knew what I was there for.) Went to the old Downtown. It is now called Vermont Therapy. 80 for an hour and it did not look promising for later so I left. The place across the street from Archibalds was closed as well. The only other place was M street spa. On the 2nd or 3rd floor. It is now called Smile. You guys probably already knew that. It looked promising so I said I would be back later that night.

Later that night.

Went to Camalots. Nice place. Got there around 8pm. Got a seat upstairs up front. Front row. Nice looking women all of them. Had 3 Coronas at 10 BUCKS a pop! Corona for me seems to be stonger than my usual Miller Lite. Since I had an empty stomach, after 3 I was feeling pretty good. Went next door 2 doors down to Smile. I was told to come back in 20 minutes. So back to Camalot for one more beer. 30 minutes or so I went back and got in. The lady that andwered the door I thought was going to be my therapist and I was not sure if I wanted to stay. But in came Mina.

Cute girl. Speaks and understands our native language. (English) Nice table shower and back to the room. Very good massage. After a long long long massage I was wondering when the flip would come. Finally, she told me to turn over. After a few more minutes she gave me the hand signal for HJ. I asked for more and she said NO. I tried in vain to talk her into more but she was firm. God bless her she tried on the HJ. But I guess with the 4 beers in me and the disapointment of only a HJ, plus she would not disrobe at all. It just was not going to happen. If you know what I mean. She tried for 10 minutes or so. I even tried to help her. But nothing. Left her 20 tip and she did not complain.

I don't see any posts on this place maybe thats why. She also said she was the only one working that night.

Overall.

Mina / Smile.

Face 8.

Body. Could not tell. I think it would have been very nice.

Massage 9/10.

Extras. 0.

YMMV

TomScherr
02-22-11, 21:17
Hello, I've been registered here for 23 days and this is my first report. After reading some reports for spas in the MD / VA area I decided to go to one (referenced below) this past Sunday (2/20). The report that persuaded me most is here: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3906-General-Reports&p=902499&viewfull=1#post902499

Anyway in this report the guy uses a certain name. So I call at 6:30pm, Masaman asks if I've ever been there, I tell her yes, she asks me who I used to see, I give her the name, and she suddenly becomes very friendly and tells me that the girl no longer works there, but three others do. So we make an appointment for 9:30.

Arrive at 9:34pm, walk in to find masaman and 3 ladies, one chubby white in mid-40's, one chubby Hispanic in mid-30's, and one fairly attractive lighter-skinned Peruvian in her late 20's. A little fat, maybe 140-145 lbs, but great tits and ass. Genina I believe her name was. She takes me back, we negotiate 170 for "everything". And everything worked out great. Multiple positions. So good that afterwards my buddy (who was waiting in the car for me) also got one. Same price.


Hey guys,

Its great reading about the AMP's glory days, I went to a bunch right before I moved to Richmond VA. Anyways I'm planning on doing a B-day present to myself and if the weather permits visiting DC tomorrow for a AMP tour. What does anyone know about H&H Flotation on Wisc. Ave? I can't find any reviews at all except a * review from 5 years ago. I never went there when I lived in town and have seen mixed reviews, but I know they did provide similar service as AMP's although their staff isn't strictly Asian. Looks like my AMP tour will be spent in the "golden triangle"/CT Ave area with now only 4 of them in 1 area as opposed to around 15 all over the nicer parts of NW DC. Wow things have freakin downsized!

DCoffee
02-24-11, 21:28
Fellow Mongers,

This is a delayed report of 1333 Mist which happened about 3 weeks ago. This time the service was much better. TS was amazing. The massage was the best one I've had so far (only ever had one at an AMP). After the flip it got better. The standard door fee was charged, plus the tip. I gave her an extra 20 because of the amazing massage and great service.

Now for some questions.

As you know, this locale has been closed. And since this was the only one I have ever gone to. This saddens me since I was getting into the hobby and enjoying myself. So the question follows: Where should I go now to indulge? I know that there is a place in Tenleytown I've done my research and I know where it is and all of the logistical problems. However, a problem remains; I'm young (22) and at my prior establishment they were always skeptical of my age. They, however, didn't care and proceeded to provide a great service.

So, I ask you: As a young monger, will this place be a problem? I know it's known for it's discretion and raising an eyebrow to people they don't know. And I am afraid that this might be a problem with the recent crackdown. So, any input from you guys would be very appreciated.

Coffee

Fatpig
02-25-11, 15:07
Fellow Mongers,

So, I ask you: As a young monger, will this place be a problem? I know it's known for it's discretion and raising an eyebrow to people they don't know. And I am afraid that this might be a problem with the recent crackdown. So, any input from you guys would be very appreciated.

CoffeeDelay reports do no good for a place thats closed. You should have no problems there if you enjoy the ladies there.

Ginger Man
02-26-11, 08:01
Fellow Mongers,

As you know, this locale has been closed. And since this was the only one I have ever gone to. This saddens me since I was getting into the hobby and enjoying myself. So the question follows: Where should I go now to indulge? I know that there is a place in Tenleytown I've done my research and I know where it is and all of the logistical problems. However, a problem remains; I'm young (22) and at my prior establishment they were always skeptical of my age. They, however, didn't care and proceeded to provide a great service.

So, I ask you: As a young monger, will this place be a problem? I know it's known for it's discretion and raising an eyebrow to people they don't know. And I am afraid that this might be a problem with the recent crackdown. So, any input from you guys would be very appreciated.

CoffeeThere are still options, experienced mongers always find a way. But, and I say this with courtesy only, at your age why hobby? Most of us are older, many married or with SOs. DC is loaded with single women, and single women from everywhere in the world. Hell, even I could get laid were I on the market, and I am old, fat, and bald.

All these single lonely women are waiting for you, why the risks and expenses of an older man's sport?

Freshly Snipes
02-26-11, 10:56
There are still options, experienced mongers always find a way. But, and I say this with courtesy only, at your age why hobby? Most of us are older, many married or with SOs. DC is loaded with single women, and single women from everywhere in the world. Hell, even I could get laid were I on the market, and I am old, fat, and bald.

All these single lonely women are waiting for you, why the risks and expenses of an older man's sport?Do you really even have to ask that?

The answer is as clear as day; at an AMP you're guaranteed FS; dating is hit and miss. You can spend 3 times the amount of money as you would at an AMP on taking a few single ladies out, and not get half the 'affection' you would get at an AMP.

I'm older and married too. Most of us, I think, go to AMP's because we as men are generally under appreciated by women. They are taught from small that men, 'have to do this for you', 'and have to do that', so women generally don't thank us.

An an AMP; that hour is all about 'us' getting pampered.

DCoffee
02-26-11, 13:28
There are still options, experienced mongers always find a way. But, and I say this with courtesy only, at your age why hobby? Most of us are older, many married or with SOs. DC is loaded with single women, and single women from everywhere in the world. Hell, even I could get laid were I on the market, and I am old, fat, and bald.

All these single lonely women are waiting for you, why the risks and expenses of an older man's sport?Ginger,

It's a valid question, and it's fairly easy to answer. I'm in a long term relationship with someone, however, there is a distance problem since she's going to grad school. Lucky me, she was the one who suggested AMP's to take the edge off. It took me about a year before I caved under the combine pressure of work and not getting any since she was in school.

As far as money, I am also fortunate enough to own my own business which is affords me enough money to indulge on myself. Even so, I tend to go sparsely, maybe once a months, or once every two months. While they treat me great, I much prefer the actual experience with my woman.

I hope that explained it,

Coffee

Ginger Man
02-27-11, 13:14
Ginger,

It's a valid question, and it's fairly easy to answer. I'm in a long term relationship with someone, however, there is a distance problem since she's going to grad school. Lucky me, she was the one who suggested AMP's to take the edge off. It took me about a year before I caved under the combine pressure of work and not getting any since she was in school.

As far as money, I am also fortunate enough to own my own business which is affords me enough money to indulge on myself. Even so, I tend to go sparsely, maybe once a months, or once every two months. While they treat me great, I much prefer the actual experience with my woman.

I hope that explained it,

CoffeeThen, that is cool.

Drofnalb
02-27-11, 14:12
Ginger Man, you know I have the utmost respect for your opinion, but I think you are wrong on this one.

I do believe a decade or 2 ago it was an older man's sport, but I see the dudes who leave and enter Mist, Jasmine, etc.
These are majority younger guys.

While there are many single women, they are usually single for a reason, and often times have radically high standards or are terrible to look at. Some men simply do not want to settle for it.

My theory is that in our fast paced and impatient world, more men simply don't have the time or patience to deal with non-payment relationships (especially when you simply will end up paying anyways).

And there is one more elephant in the room, I do not like American women (looks or personality) at all (and I am not the only one).


There are still options, experienced mongers always find a way. But, and I say this with courtesy only, at your age why hobby? Most of us are older, many married or with SOs. DC is loaded with single women, and single women from everywhere in the world. Hell, even I could get laid were I on the market, and I am old, fat, and bald.

All these single lonely women are waiting for you, why the risks and expenses of an older man's sport?

Butter Dog
02-27-11, 14:48
why hobby?Ginger, I also appreciate your contributions and respect your opinions. But I guess I'm jumping on the dog pile with my $0. 02 on this topic. It's pretty clear that there is no one answer to this question.

I think Freshly Snipe's report kinds sums it up for me. It's an hour of being papmered. If you spend all that time waiting for the end, you just might miss a good TS and massage. I'm not quite old yet, but I got a good 20+ years on our young Mr. Dcoffee. And I can honestly tell you that I can't recall my SO ever giving me a nice TS and a good massage. And BJ's? As soon as I said "I do", she said "I don't". And to be perfectly honest, AMPs are cheaper than my SO.

I don't know if I'd stay sane if I couldn't slip away for an hour and get pampered with a little me time.

Not trying to beat you up or nothing. Keep up the good work.

Butter Dog

Parkinsons
02-28-11, 02:00
And there is one more elephant in the room, I do not like American women (looks or personality) at all (and I am not the only one).Whoa, I think you hit the nail on the head.

For me, being married to one is enough. I need time away from her and I make my escape to the AMPs.

BTW, I'll be going to the Dominican Republic (first time) next week, solo. I'm hoping for an insane mongering experience.

Sleazebum
02-28-11, 09:59
American women as defined as any female either born here or imported here as an infant and raised here.

I have seen and known many who have their ethnic roots in some of the finer places that make great women BUT they were either second generation immigrants or adopted as an infant and raised here. There is too much pure ***** training going on in our schools and culture to make any American woman whiney, demanding, and high maintenance pigs. My first wife was one and I will never see another.

My present wife of over 30 years is the finest person I have ever known and while her interest in sex itself disappeared many years ago the rest of our life together is the best! So I see the AMPs and the occasional BP girl to take care of that and continue on that way. My wife was born and raised in the Far East and even after being an American for all these years she was raised right and still does most things right.

SO. If you are looking for a great wife go somewhere away from the USA andyou should find her. If you just want to bust a nut you can rent one of the American pigs if you want and if you have sadly married on of them and want to taste the good life go visit an AMP.

That is all. Move along.

JJ.


Whoa, I think you hit the nail on the head.

For me, being married to one is enough. I need time away from her and I make my escape to the AMPs.

BTW, I'll be going to the Dominican Republic (first time) next week, solo. I'm hoping for an insane mongering experience.

Ginger Man
02-28-11, 15:45
American women as defined as any female either born here or imported here as an infant and raised here.

I have seen and known many who have their ethnic roots in some of the finer places that make great women BUT they were either second generation immigrants or adopted as an infant and raised here. There is too much pure * training going on in our schools and culture to make any American woman whiney, demanding, and high maintenance pigs. My first wife was one and I will never see another.

My present wife of over 30 years is the finest person I have ever known and while her interest in sex itself disappeared many years ago the rest of our life together is the best! So I see the AMPs and the occasional BP girl to take care of that and continue on that way. My wife was born and raised in the Far East and even after being an American for all these years she was raised right and still does most things right.

SO. If you are looking for a great wife go somewhere away from the USA andyou should find her. If you just want to bust a nut you can rent one of the American pigs if you want and if you have sadly married on of them and want to taste the good life go visit an AMP.

That is all. Move along.

JJ. You and I have much in common.

I have had great experiences with women, but upon reflection, they have either been European or Asian. Hmmm. Some American women are not the prizes they think they are.

Tanaka
03-01-11, 11:08
I will be visiting DC next week, and I am looking for an AMP, which can provide really good deep tissue massage. Any recommendations?

Markis
03-01-11, 23:17
Does anyone know if the AMP on new york ave is open? I went there last Thursday and the usual lady came outside and told me to call them first, called Saturday and she told me to call back Sunday which I did but they didn't pick up, I read on this thread many AMPs for closed I hope this one is not, Does anyone knows anything about it?

Too Jaded
03-02-11, 00:00
There is too much pure ***** training going on in our schools and culture to make any American woman whiney, demanding, and high maintenance pigs. My first wife was one and I will never see another.Amen, brother! I was just having this conversation with an old friend yesterday. He is now married (to an American) but otherwise felt the same way. He never traveled outside the US; I've been just about everywhere and just can't seem to find a single woman here who doesn't act like Helen Hunt on Mad About You constantly berating poor Paul Reiser. I've never wanted a woman to wait on me, all I've wanted is a little mutual respect and partnership in life, but damn it if women here in DC can't find some way to blame you for every little unhappiness in their lives. And for such a sensitive gender, don't they have a way of just being vicious and emasculating in their attacks?

Some people who know me well know that I step out as we all do to the local AMPs, and what my little trips down to Costa Rica or the Caribbean are really about. They also know that I am a good and otherwise decent man, and why I choose to do so rather than hunt for a civilian, and I think in a way they are almost envious. While I don't go around yelling it from mountain tops I don't feel in the least bit ashamed or stigmatized by the fact that I hobby.

If I were to ever get married it would probably be to a nice lady from South America, Thailand, or the Philippines. No swearing, no false pretense about football, but someone who can honestly be relied on to share an equal albeit feminine role in a relationship.

Too Jaded
03-02-11, 00:02
BTW, I'll be going to the Dominican Republic (first time) next week, solo. I'm hoping for an insane mongering experience.Check out some of my posts on the Sosua board on ISG. I use the same name there; you are going to have a GREAT time!

Come back and let us know how the renovations at La Passion are coming along!

Blowtorch
03-02-11, 18:22
Does anyone know if the AMP on new york ave is open? I went there last Thursday and the usual lady came outside and told me to call them first, called Saturday and she told me to call back Sunday which I did but they didn't pick up, I read on this thread many AMPs for closed I hope this one is not, Does anyone knows anything about it?Are you talking about IHC? I haven't been there in years and I thought it closed a long time ago. When it was open it was one of the BEST!

Hugh Handsoman
03-02-11, 19:16
Potential Wal-Mart landlord accused of hosting massage parlor.

By Mike DeBonis.

A prominent landowner who could soon host the city's first Wal-Mart is being targeted by city officials who are accusing his company of allowing an illicit massage parlor to operate in a downtown building it owns.

Jerry Schaeffer and brothers Andy and Dave own the parcel near New York Avenue and Bladensburg Road NE That the mega retailer is eyeing for a 126, 000-square-foot store. The Schaeffers, long major players in the city taxicab industry and in real estate, have entered into a 60-year ground lease with a developer that is working with Wal-Mart to open a store next year.

A Jerry Schaeffer-owned company also owns a building at 1215 Connecticut Ave. NW, where "Spa Sky" operates. A Jan. 5 sting resulted in arrests of two Spa Sky employees on solicitation charges, according to court documents (warning: explicit language therein). A civil lawsuit filed by D. C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan this week alleges that the company is "allowing the operation of a house of prostitution."

On Jan. 14, the complaint says, the city notified Schaeffer's company that he had a bawdy house on his premises. But there was no response, and the suit holds that Schaeffer "has not taken any steps to abate the prostitution-related nuisance activity at the Property."

The city is requesting a judge to declare the parlor as "nuisance property" and immediately shut down Spa Sky. It also asks that Schaeffer's company pay damages and bar any future business on the premises that "provides physical therapy, spa, massage, nail salon, or any other services which would require the physical touch of another person, including disrobing (partial or otherwise) , touching (I. E, skin-to-skin contact) , or the treatment or application of any lotion (prescription or non) to any area of the body."

Reached this afternoon, Schaeffer rejected suggestions that he didn't move swiftly to get rid of the illicit business and vowed to fight the lawsuit."We started eviction as soon as we found out about it," he said."We're in the process of eviction now."


Does anyone know if the AMP on new york ave is open? I went there last Thursday and the usual lady came outside and told me to call them first, called Saturday and she told me to call back Sunday which I did but they didn't pick up, I read on this thread many AMPs for closed I hope this one is not, Does anyone knows anything about it?

A John
03-02-11, 20:52
Dam we agree on something else (-:


American women as defined as any female either born here or imported here as an infant and raised here.

I have seen and known many who have their ethnic roots in some of the finer places that make great women BUT they were either second generation immigrants or adopted as an infant and raised here. There is too much pure * training going on in our schools and culture to make any American woman whiney, demanding, and high maintenance pigs. My first wife was one and I will never see another.

My present wife of over 30 years is the finest person I have ever known and while her interest in sex itself disappeared many years ago the rest of our life together is the best! So I see the AMPs and the occasional BP girl to take care of that and continue on that way. My wife was born and raised in the Far East and even after being an American for all these years she was raised right and still does most things right.

SO. If you are looking for a great wife go somewhere away from the USA andyou should find her. If you just want to bust a nut you can rent one of the American pigs if you want and if you have sadly married on of them and want to taste the good life go visit an AMP.

That is all. Move along.

JJ.

Bigcatt69
03-02-11, 22:50
Potential Wal-Mart landlord accused of hosting massage parlor.

By Mike DeBonis.

A prominent landowner who could soon host the city's first Wal-Mart is being targeted by city officials who are accusing his company of allowing an illicit massage parlor to operate in a downtown building it owns.

Jerry Schaeffer and brothers Andy and Dave own the parcel near New York Avenue and Bladensburg Road NE That the mega retailer is eyeing for a 126, 000-square-foot store. The Schaeffers, long major players in the city taxicab industry and in real estate, have entered into a 60-year ground lease with a developer that is working with Wal-Mart to open a store next year.

A Jerry Schaeffer-owned company also owns a building at 1215 Connecticut Ave. NW, where "Spa Sky" operates. A Jan. 5 sting resulted in arrests of two Spa Sky employees on solicitation charges, according to court documents (warning: explicit language therein). A civil lawsuit filed by D. C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan this week alleges that the company is "allowing the operation of a house of prostitution."

On Jan. 14, the complaint says, the city notified Schaeffer's company that he had a bawdy house on his premises. But there was no response, and the suit holds that Schaeffer "has not taken any steps to abate the prostitution-related nuisance activity at the Property."

The city is requesting a judge to declare the parlor as "nuisance property" and immediately shut down Spa Sky. It also asks that Schaeffer's company pay damages and bar any future business on the premises that "provides physical therapy, spa, massage, nail salon, or any other services which would require the physical touch of another person, including disrobing (partial or otherwise) , touching (I. E, skin-to-skin contact) , or the treatment or application of any lotion (prescription or non) to any area of the body."

Reached this afternoon, Schaeffer rejected suggestions that he didn't move swiftly to get rid of the illicit business and vowed to fight the lawsuit."We started eviction as soon as we found out about it," he said."We're in the process of eviction now."Wonder what prompted this crusade?

Ginger Man
03-03-11, 07:06
Wonder what prompted this crusade?Meanwhile, you have city officials running around in taxpayer-leased top of the line SUVs, corruption everywhere, and this high morality. Give me a break.

Blowtorch
03-03-11, 12:24
Meanwhile, you have city officials running around in taxpayer-leased top of the line SUVs, corruption everywhere, and this high morality. Give me a break.Yeah. And they thought Marion Barry was bad! This dude Kwame Brown didn't like the interior color in his $2000 / month Linciln so DC is stuck with it while he got a different one!

Loop Vet
03-03-11, 14:24
The parcel that is the potential home of the Wal-Mart is on the other side of the street of 1818 NY Ave, and the spa in question in the article is in a property of his on Conn Ave. I know the Schaeffer's own parcels on the south side of NY AVe from WV to Bladensburg Road, where Skylark Lounge is, but not sure they own 1818. An interesting and important article for this forum, but not sure if it is relevant in regards to whether 1818 is open.


Potential Wal-Mart landlord accused of hosting massage parlor.

By Mike DeBonis.

A prominent landowner who could soon host the city's first Wal-Mart is being targeted by city officials who are accusing his company of allowing an illicit massage parlor to operate in a downtown building it owns.

Jerry Schaeffer and brothers Andy and Dave own the parcel near New York Avenue and Bladensburg Road NE That the mega retailer is eyeing for a 126, 000-square-foot store. The Schaeffers, long major players in the city taxicab industry and in real estate, have entered into a 60-year ground lease with a developer that is working with Wal-Mart to open a store next year.

A Jerry Schaeffer-owned company also owns a building at 1215 Connecticut Ave. NW, where "Spa Sky" operates. A Jan. 5 sting resulted in arrests of two Spa Sky employees on solicitation charges, according to court documents (warning: explicit language therein). A civil lawsuit filed by D. C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan this week alleges that the company is "allowing the operation of a house of prostitution."

On Jan. 14, the complaint says, the city notified Schaeffer's company that he had a bawdy house on his premises. But there was no response, and the suit holds that Schaeffer "has not taken any steps to abate the prostitution-related nuisance activity at the Property."

The city is requesting a judge to declare the parlor as "nuisance property" and immediately shut down Spa Sky. It also asks that Schaeffer's company pay damages and bar any future business on the premises that "provides physical therapy, spa, massage, nail salon, or any other services which would require the physical touch of another person, including disrobing (partial or otherwise) , touching (I. E, skin-to-skin contact) , or the treatment or application of any lotion (prescription or non) to any area of the body."

Reached this afternoon, Schaeffer rejected suggestions that he didn't move swiftly to get rid of the illicit business and vowed to fight the lawsuit."We started eviction as soon as we found out about it," he said."We're in the process of eviction now."

Markis
03-05-11, 03:03
Thanks for the answer about my questions on the AMP on 1818 ny ave, I called again around 10pm but still no one picking up but the line is ringing, I might go tomorrow during noon just to finally find out if its still open or not, I will kepp you all informed abput what I will find out.

Ginger Man
03-06-11, 06:20
I came across this petition.

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-prominent-washington-dc-landlord-to-stop-leasing-to-illegal-brothels?signatures%3Fopt_new=t&opt_fb=f#opt_new=t&opt_fb=f.

Oh well.

FunGuy3
03-07-11, 10:50
Saw kim yesterday. Very nice cute white girl. No FS or oral but one hell of a privateviewing! Check her out, two thumbs up. She is a smoker, about 5'5. Petite but very curvy, sexy hot lips, wow she was hot. Would see her again.

http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classy-sensual-blonde-24/4441491

Member #4913
03-07-11, 18:41
Hello, Mongers-

I'm taking a trip this weekend from central VA to Delmarva. I will be going through DC, MD & DE. I'm looking for the best AMP to visit along my way. I've been reading post in this area and it seems like it's slim pickings. Not what I remember from years ago.

Any way here's what I'm looking for.

1. Good looking / not old.

2. It would be nice to choose the girl.

3. A place where I won't get my pic taken by my uncle on the way out.

4. Good TS.

5. Standard Nova finish, maybe CBJ.

6. The option for msog.

7. No clock watchers.

I prefer pm's from other sm's.

Thanks all-

I will post feed back, BTW.

IluvSmellyFish
03-08-11, 00:46
Saw kim yesterday. Very nice cute white girl. No FS or oral but one hell of a privateviewing! Check her out, two thumbs up. She is a smoker, about 5'5. Petite but very curvy, sexy hot lips, wow she was hot. Would see her again.

http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classy-sensual-blonde-24/4441491Why are you posting on the AMP thread? White Girl = Not an Asian. Not trying to give you a hard time, but your posts on this thread and the backpage threads are a bit suspect.

Bunker Buster
03-08-11, 05:30
Why are you posting on the AMP thread? White Girl = Not an Asian. Not trying to give you a hard time, but your posts on this thread and the backpage threads are a bit suspect.I'll agree with you that the reports almost scream 'self-post' by the girls, but time will tell. This is the right thread though for Latin, White, Black, and other massage joints, not just the AMPs. Embrace diversity! LOL

Van Wilder03
03-08-11, 17:02
Been searching with no luck.

FunGuy3
03-08-11, 18:33
Why are you posting on the AMP thread? White Girl = Not an Asian. Not trying to give you a hard time, but your posts on this thread and the backpage threads are a bit suspect.Hey buddy, everyone makes mistake ok geesss! Just trying to post a review.

FunGuy3
03-08-11, 18:36
I'll agree with you that the reports almost scream 'self-post' by the girls, but time will tell. This is the right thread though for Latin, White, Black, and other massage joints, not just the AMPs. Embrace diversity! LOLGive me a freaking break buddy! How about we check out your reviews to see what you are up to? Waste of my time.

IluvSmellyFish
03-09-11, 01:05
I'll agree with you that the reports almost scream 'self-post' by the girls, but time will tell. This is the right thread though for Latin, White, Black, and other massage joints, not just the AMPs. Embrace diversity! LOLI have heard about the MP with the Latinas in the neighborhood near AU, but havn't been able to figure out where it is based on the posts. I'd PM someone for details, but frankly half the fun for me is figuring it out on my own. All the MPs I've been too have been exclusively filled with Asian girls (who for some reason are almost always exclusively Korean). Interestingly enough this phenomena isn't limited to just the DC metro area, but rather pervades almost every city I've visited in the US. But I'm sure you already know this.

I've had luck with the Backpage scene again so I'm filling my non-asian needs that way. Although one of these days I might end up PMing you for more details on these "non-Asian MPs". I was having a rough time a few weeks back with finding anyone who looked remotely like their ad pics. Recently, I've been having a lot more luck (even though I havn't been following the good advice that was posted on the BP thread).

As for the post from FunGuy3. I was just trying to figure out where they were coming from. The stuff that he / she posted on the BP thread didn't make any sense either.

IluvSmellyFish
03-09-11, 01:25
Give me a freaking break buddy! How about we check out your reviews to see what you are up to? Waste of my time.Bunker's posts are solid. Again, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, its just that your posts just don't make any sense.

The Big Man
03-11-11, 09:27
I am just some pervert or crazy or what? Why would I pay some chick just to look at her? (Self post or you need to get out more)


Saw kim yesterday. Very nice cute white girl. No FS or oral but one hell of a privateviewing! Check her out, two thumbs up. She is a smoker, about 5'5. Petite but very curvy, sexy hot lips, wow she was hot. Would see her again.

http://dc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classy-sensual-blonde-24/4441491

John2526
03-11-11, 17:44
I am just some pervert or crazy or what? Why would I pay some chick just to look at her? (Self post or you need to get out more)LOL That's like saying,"Full service? Why would I pay a woman to pump my gas?"

I can't speak for this particular provider. But "private viewings" are typically a euphemism for a HJ provider.

Methinks it's not the previous poster who needs to get out more.

Sleazebum
03-11-11, 18:19
I am just some pervert or crazy or what? Why would I pay some chick just to look at her? (Self post or you need to get out more)She smokes so I am not interested anyway.

JJ

Roamin Roman
03-13-11, 17:11
If I were to ever get married it would probably be to a nice lady from South America, Thailand, or the Philippines. No swearing, no false pretense about football, but someone who can honestly be relied on to share an equal albeit feminine role in a relationship.In her report for TBD titled "Dupont Asian massage parlor closes, angering johns," Amanda Hess quotes you in the sixth paragraph of her story. I guess we can draw two conclusions from this: (1) They're capable of reading, and (2) they read this site (probably because they themselves can't get laid and hate knowing that the rest of us can). Of course, a glance at her photo on the TBD site and one can surmise that she and her compatriots are man-hating lesbians and similar types. The text accompanying her photo says "I moved to the District of Columbia in 2003 to get my degree in creative writing. I am now lucky to be gainfully employed-particularly at TBD, where I'll be reporting on LGBT issues, sex crimes, and the oddity of local fornication. I started covering the sex and gender beat for the Washington City Paper, where I wrote about the D. C. Police department's attempt to stop a rape victim from getting a rape kit, and Catholic University's attempts to stop college kids from getting laid. ."

(Hmmm. She seems to resent CU's "attempts" to stop college kids from getting laid, but sees no hypocrisy when it comes to her attempts to stop working guys from getting laid.)

Drofnalb
03-14-11, 11:37
Rather than copy our quotes, why not use this site to interact with us.

I know you are interested in the rights and safety of sex workers.

Did it ever occur to you that when a spa closes women become more UNSAFE!

Women who work in spas are among the safest sex workers in the USA, they work in teams and they work indoors. Also, men who visit spas are among the kindest, most ethical, and most PROTECTED consumers of commericial sex.

About us, we are just a bunch of normal guys. We are your brother, son, father, cousin. If you look around you will certainly find a man in your life who purchases commercial sex. If you know such men, you should encourage them to visit spas as opposed to hiring street walkers and escorts, or visiting strip clubs; spas are simply a much superior option all around.

If you are a feminist you certainly know:

That women have the right to choose what they do with their body (think pro-choice).
Women are intelligent, and know how to make choices in life.
The war on sex workers only hurts women, as it is a thinly veiled attempt to yet again punish women for the sexual demands of men.


Think about it, why is it that we men rarely get penalized for purchasing sex? It is because if society started punishing men for purchasing upscale sex services (in quiet and harmless environments) they would rattle a bees nest that might shake this country to its core.

D - istressed
R - eader
O - f
F - alsified
N - onsense
A - gainst
L - iberal
B - ehavior

Too Jaded
03-15-11, 10:40
I have no problem with being quoted and she is free to interpret it however she wants so long as the full context was understood. That sentence quoted by itself could be taken to mean that I don't tolerate women who are professionally driven, unconventional, gay, or even just liberal. That is not the case at all. I just don't want one of those women as my most trusted and intimate partner in life; what would we have in common?

I don't know anything about the writer, but let's assume that her writing is in defense of orientation or some kind of 'unconventional' lifestlye. She rightly doesn't want to be treated differently or marginalized. Why would my personal desire for a more conventional be any more wrong?

The other part of my post which may not have been clear is that in my experience, which is far from empirical, a lot of women in the DC area are just not very nice. I don't enjoy being berated or taken for granted.

The bottom line is that it seems that this writer is taking select quotes in order to create impressions that might be prejudicial which is not helped by the fact that they are solely sourced from this site. But she has limited space to post her articles, and after all she is free to have her forum as we do ours.

I just say live and let live. Responding with vitriol in our posts and comments to her will not be constructive. Disagree all you want, but show a little courtesy if you want your point to be considered.

Edit: So I went and found the article that was posted by Ms. Hess. First, she didn't name me by handle or attempt to 'out' me, so for that she has some credibility and sense of ethics as well as my thanks. However she asserts that I am looking for a foreign woman who is alienated from American culture. While that could be possible be inferred in reality it just isn't true, and the images that can conjure about are definitely inflammatory and prejudicial. I don't hate American women, and I don't need a submissive village girl. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. If you've ever been to Colombia it would be apparent; they can be the most cosmopolitan as well as loving and loyal women in a relationship but are also quite assertive and they certainly don't take any shit or abide any unfaithfulness in their men. They offer equal respect in kind. That is what I would like, not some kind of unliberated or uneducated girl from some remote village as she suggests.

From what little I have read though I think the writer seems to at least be reporting as honestly and ethically in so much as her own beliefs will allow.

Too Jaded
03-15-11, 23:47
I have never been to Sky Spa, or any other DC AMP for that matter. If I had and suspected that any woman was in any way forced to work or do something against her will I would be one of the first calling in a complaint to the police. So how I got linked into this story as an 'upset john' over Sky's closing is beyond me.

Ozmong
03-16-11, 02:07
Hey Guys, a repost from the strip club forum (doesn't seem to be many readers there at the moment!)

Nikki at Archibalds.

G'Day all,

I've been off this site for a while, spending time on ISG as I have moved back to Oz. I've been keeping tabs on the AMP and Club scene, looks like some things have changed, not all for the best. Most of the reports from the old sites don't sound like they are as much fun any more, and Leo seems to be as active as ever.

However, I have a favour to ask of my mongering friends in DC.

Has anyone met Nikki at Archibalds? Is she the same asian girl that worked at Camelot a few years back? We got along well, but have lost touch, so I would be grateful if anyone can give me an update.

Stay safe, happy mongering, if you're in Oz sometime look me up on ISG,

Cheers,

Ozmong

Sleazebum
03-16-11, 09:06
I have never been to Sky Spa, or any other DC AMP for that matter. If I had and suspected that any woman was in any way forced to work or do something against her will I would be one of the first calling in a complaint to the police. So how I got linked into this story as an 'upset john' over Sky's closing is beyond me.She also quoted me in the article and it doesn't mean anything. Whatever she is trying to do is probably well intentioned if off the mark. She is (it seems) wanting to help enforce the current laws and turn public opinion to fit her campaign to do so.

No big deal and I will not think more of her.

What we forget at times is that what we post here is carved in stone and can not be removed from the internet even if our friend Jackson deletes an entry from the forum. Also. With the right tools and skills every one of our posts can be traced back to the actual machine we use to make them. Our comments here are not made in a locked room in the middle of the night. Rather it is more like standing on the street corner at noon shouting them across the crowds.

If Ms Hess is being mean spirited in her efforts I surely hope she fails but if her intentions are truly good then she is welcome to continue. I just hope she gets an education into the way things really are first.

It is called "Freedom of the press" and can be a real pain in the ass at times.

JJ

Drofnalb
03-16-11, 21:21
Married men on the board, I exempt you due to your circumstances.

But, if you are single and stay quiet about your hobbying you are doing no one a favor.
Many of you act as if you think you are doing something wrong when buying commercial sex.
I assure you otherwise. Don't believe me listen to Mr. Alan Dershowitz.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88104105

I guess the puritan ethic takes long to get out of the system.
If we had any backbone we would have places like this in DC
http://stiletto-brothel.com.au/sydney/

True story:

I have a friend, in his 50s, good looking, makes good money, divorced, a little overweight. Known for dating skanks. His last girlfriend (he finds them on dating sites) almost made my stomach turn, they broke up in time. Now what is the difference between looking on dating sites to get laid or going to a spa? At the spa you are guaranteed quality and product.

I went to his house recently, the conversation went to women that we knew. What do you think of her, and what about that one. He has always been confused at how unimpressed I am with the women around us.

I explain to him:

If I wanted to date a man I would go ahead and become a homosexual. There is no need for me to date a woman who acts and looks like a man, but is less loyal and interesting.

Remember, the women you enjoy at the spa, no matter how much you complain about them, are a hundred times more pleasurable to be with than what most men settle for.

At this point I explain to him how I get down, in detail. His jaw drops, I look him dead in his eyes and explain to him "those women most men cupcake for, I get 10 times better on the regular." He tells me he wants me to take him next time I go. That weekend I take him to my favorite spot (but not to my favorite girl).

I show up at the door (mama knows me well) , she is shocked that I show up with another male (I guess this is very uncommon). Regardless, I choose his partner for him by name and pay his fees. The experience turns this older man into a little boy, like a rook he was done long before time up. Had to wait on me as I was in no rush. His whole perspective has been shaken, I can already see the difference in him and it is a big improvement.

Moral of the story:

Your silence is hurting others, and possibly yourself. It is always moral to pay grown women generously for commercial sex (while treating them with respect) , actually it is the most natural thing in the world. Stop feeling guilty. If you have a woman in your life that is more trouble than necessary, well nix the *****.

Remember, there is only one reason why we are persecuted. It is because they are simply jealous that some of us continue to have fun!

Max Beelyun
03-18-11, 02:02
I had a brief interaction with Amanda Hess. She tows the politically-correct line in thinking that "massage parlors" = "human trafficking". The underlying (incorrect) assumption is that no woman would sell sexual services without being forced. It's a peculiarly American viewpoint.

I challenged her to find anything useful / relevant on google about "human trafficking", and she responded stupidly. But she didn't actually read any of the links, that was painfully obvious.

Here's what you should keep in mind: the media controls the media. If the author of a story has a viewpoint, you can be assured that the author will pick and choose citations in support of that viewpoint. You are helpless against that. Your contributions will be edited and you WILL be quoted out of context. Guaranteed.

For example, here's a typical massage parlor bust story, as it appears in the media:

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Police in so-and-so jurisdiction busted XYZ massage parlor and arrested X people. Jane Doe #1 (age 45) , Jane Doe #2 (age 37) , and Jane Doe #3 (age 35) were arrested for solicitation.

Jimmy Bob from the Prostitution Is Bad International Human Rights Organization said "Thank God another massage parlor has been shut down. So many teenagers are forced into this work, it makes my heart bleed". He went on to state that many massage parlors are "fronts" for forced prostitution.

[insert heart-breaking irrelevant story about teenager here]

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Me again. So you see, in the public's mind,"massage parlor" = "human trafficking". No one reads these things with a critical eye, they just say "cluck-cluck, glad those bastards got busted" and turn the page, or click the next link, or whatever.

Remember, the media is a business and they need to get readers and make a profit. They are far more interested in selling their stuff than revealing the "truth".

Disclaimer: I know human trafficking occurs. I've seen it. But massage parlors (usually) aren't it.

Drofnalb
03-18-11, 19:05
Remember, the media is a business and they need to get readers and make a profit. They are far more interested in selling their stuff than revealing the "truth".

Disclaimer: I know human trafficking occurs. I've seen it. But massage parlors (usually) aren't it. They have jumped on this trafficking thing big time. Their videos show white men buying Asian teenagers from taxis for $6. This white man keeps her locked in a hotel room and sets up a website to sell her. This is so far from the truth.

The problem is, the time for silence is over. We can no longer afford to put all the brunt on the women we enjoy. At some point we are going to have to stand up for them.

Once they see who we are and who our women are all of their lies will come crashing down!

FROM NOW ON I WILL LEAVE YOU ALL WITH EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE COULD HAVE IF WE HAD ANY BALLS!

http://www.sherisranch.com/

Toadman2
03-19-11, 17:21
I am visiting DC and I visited a nice, clean place today near McPherson Square. The overall experience was nice and I will repeat before I leave. I will not mention or give out the name of the place or the lovely lady for all those who do know about because it appears to be the last one around. I walked my ass off going to M street, Conn, and many more and this was the only one I saw open. Gents, who like this type recreational activity, enjoy.

Triple E
03-26-11, 01:34
You neglected to mention what myself and plenty of other people know about this joint. . . No FS, just the NoVA finish.

I confirmed this today after a BP girl stood me up and I knew my other options in the area (except maybe heading over to Shell Green, but there are only reports they're open) were nixed. I still had a good time, but it's not what I wanted, and was hoping it had changed.

That said, thanks for the reminder, because my other options on short notice were a train ride to another neighborhood on a gamble, or finally checking out Lisa and her teeth (ok, I'd have enjoyed that too, but this was softer).


I am visiting DC and I visited a nice, clean place today near McPherson Square. The overall experience was nice and I will repeat before I leave. I will not mention or give out the name of the place or the lovely lady for all those who do know about because it appears to be the last one around. I walked my ass off going to M street, Conn, and many more and this was the only one I saw open. Gents, who like this type recreational activity, enjoy.

Danielp
03-31-11, 01:44
Hi all.

I'll be spending a week in DC in mid-April, and am looking for some HE-only-but-not-FS type of place. Any suggestions? Send me a PM, please!

Thanks

Yoyo Spa
04-02-11, 09:47
Hi all.

I'll be spending a week in DC in mid-April, and am looking for some HE-only-but-not-FS type of place. Any suggestions? Send me a PM, please!

ThanksLook in the NoVa forums for standard NoVa finish. DC was mostly FS and is mostly shut down.

MrWhatever
04-02-11, 22:29
Hey, I was at dc and posted some of my experiences before and my mistakes as a first timer! LOL. But I have since remedied everything.

With that said, I am headed back and was wondering if any spots are still open like mist and sky, etc?

I have read many posts here that things are shut down in DC. If anyone can school me on what is going on in dc that Is still running cause there HAS to be some game still left in town, please pm and let me know.

Or is mist still jumpin? Damn, I really liked mist. LOL

Jack6699
04-05-11, 17:04
I am familiar with the old system and have not figured out how to search a particular thread such massage parlor reports. Can someone who is computer literate than me give me some guidance. Thanks for your help.

Drofnalb
04-05-11, 19:14
Ok, we know that the morality police have taken Sky, Mist and Jasmine from us right.

No big deal, we just need to innovate.

I know great spas in DC that are working under capacity right now, which means they need you! Stressful day, these places will make it all better.

I have been PMing members, and most people seem to not know these places are open for business.

INSTRUCTIONS:

If you are a Senior Member with valuable and informative posts please PM me for details.

If you are member who has added no value to this site your PM will be ignored.

When I surrender information to you, I advise you not to post on the locations surrendered; If you do these locations will be targeted.



Also as a side, I read today that a new SUPER brothel is opening in New Zealand. Any hobbyist heading down under should definitely check this place out!
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/super-brothel-gets-neighbours-hot-under-collar-4099931

Drunker Irish
04-05-11, 21:33
Good article by Amanda on March 11, 2011. Presented a well balanced article this time around, so props to her for listening.

Unfortunately, will probably be the last of the articles as the places are all pretty much closed or will be soon.

The venues are pretty much closed or not worth it. Just like everything in the US, its being outsourced overseas. Amsterdam is just six hours away, take the midnight flight from Dulles. 15 minute train ride to the Red Light District. Leave Friday night, come back Sunday. Probably cheaper, too.

A lesson in politics, once you succeed-then what do you do next? You've just worked yourself out of a job.

TTYL Fellow Mongers

Miketastic69
04-09-11, 09:46
I am a longtime lurker. Some of you may know me from other boards. I have been on a long "tour" of all the places in NOVA and will report on each starting with Eva.

Middle of the week visit in office park in Manassas. A lot of businesses around the office park look shuttered, so its pretty discreet location.

Drew Diane, Tall 40-ish 40dd, not the most pleasant face. TS with plenty of roaming. Massage pretty thorough. Roaming invited throughout. On the flip, lifted top and showed two behemoths that were damn near perfect for her age! Roaming top, bottom, inside & out. Nova finish.

8 door. 8 tip.

7 appearance / 8 service

Miketastic69
04-09-11, 09:52
Need some joy in my life so I decided to *Smile *

Sue came to the door. 30's, skinny,"see's" and really pretty face. I got there early and she was mms and working (9:50am). .6 entry.

TS was thorough and rough with a scrubbing everywhere. Massage was the best ever! She backwalked me and cracked every vertebrae in my back. It was actually pretty painful. At moments I wanted her to stop. There is a mirror on the far wall that allows you to see her tiny cute body jumping up and down on your seemingly fragile frame as she tortures you.

On the flip, she allowed roaming and suckling. I asked for FS and she said they fired girls for providing too many extras. But she did go all out to make my visit fun by fully disrobing and allowing roaming inside & out. 1.0 tip for the champion level effort. She is my ATF, YMMV.

Miketastic69
04-09-11, 09:59
Got bored with the NOVA scene because it seemed really bleak in the past month to two months. I decided to drive out west to Front Royal.

First. This place is hard as hell to find. It is an old colonial house on one of the main streets in town. Parking is in the rear. I got out there and there were a few cars in the parking area so I thought they must have a few providers. I was wrong. Came to the door and said "come back 30-mins." So I went to Wal-Mart and walked around for while because I was not going to waste that tw0-hour drive.

When I returned invited in by a short 40-50ish korean woman. She took me to a room with a bed and told me to relax. I started to undress. Wrong! It was just for me to hang out until I went into the massage room. This place is literally an old house and the woman who led me in was not my provider.

I was escorted to another room with a massage table and a fireplace. Late 30's provider, short korean with a pudge. Nice massage and a lot of talking. No TS. Thought it was going to be a waste of time. On the flip Nova Finish and roaming invited. Not the best service but not rushed and it felt like a familiar visit with a friendly provider. Not worth the drive except for the fact that it was comforting and inviting atmosphere.

80. 60-tip 6appearance / 6service

Wahooboy94
04-10-11, 00:34
Another site has given this location some pretty decent reviews the last few months so finally, when I had the day off, decided to drive into town and see for myself.

Facility was fairly easy to find, right off of Wisconsin. Went inside, said Hello, to the birds, and was greeted by a very tall, thin and pretty (Ethiopian I think?) gal. I didn't get her name, but found her to be supremely lovely and charming.

As others have noted, facility is a bit run-down but satisfactory. No TS. Just a normal shower setup which I took advantage of.

Back to the room, face down and was treated to a very nice and relaxing massage. Lots of lotion but didn't feel oily at all as she rubbed it into my legs and back. During the session, lots of pleasant chit-chat from start of massage to finish. As we like to say in NOVA, standard finish but very nicely done. There was a mirror mounted on the wall. As strange as this may seem, it seemed I found myself watching her do the job moreso on the mirror. Funny.

While not the best massage in the world, I enjoyed it very much and enjoyed going somewhere new as well as having an attendant that was not Asian (first time in almost 10 years). In fact, on the way out, she introduced me to some of the other ladies that work there (both Caucasian and rather tough looking in my opinion). If I go back (and I believe I will) , I'll stick with the same provider.

MrWhatever
04-11-11, 05:56
OK. Got 2 reports for the same place. This place will not be named in case of whoever is lurking so you won't know where this place is at but hey, that's just the way it's going to go.

First visit.

The woman I pull is old as hell. (when I say old, I mean between 40-50). I like them in thier 20s and early 30s. Anyways, she still looked decent so I went ahead. Face was pretty, body was thin but not skinny and B cups. TS was pretty good. There was really no real massage, just a really really soft massage. Then flip and got FS. Experience was great and I left very happy. Her attitude was good.

Second visit.

This is where things go wonky. I planned on going to JHH in maryland to try that out but instead decided to go back to this place since my first experience was good, and figured, the odds are better if the first experience went well. Now I am wishing I went with my gut originally to try a different spot.

So I get back to this place and the SAME chick greets me and I ask if I can try someone different cause I like variety. She is cool with it. She gets someone else. This time the chick looks like late 20s and early 30s. I think perfect. Face is cute, and body is good with B cups. This is where things slowly god down hill. Hit her with the fee for the massage and I get ready for TS. TS is like any other TS but the whole time I get this wierd vibe from this girl like she has a shitty attitude that she is trying to cover up but you can still sense / read it. Then she goes to dry me up. Kinda half asses it. We get back to the room and I end up having to dry myself up a little more while she left. When she comes back she starts the massage. Massage is painful and not that good. She asks if it feels ok and I obviously say yea cause I'm a man but I swear it felt like she was trying to hurt me. She was putting her whole body into some of those thumb presses. During this process I ask about the FS. She said how much. I offer the standard obviously. She asks for more. I told her I don't have more. We settle on that price. After the massage she asks for the money before everything else. I give it to her. She then asks for more again even tho we settled on a price and I'm thinking what? And then she gives me this look as if I'm cheap. Number 1. We didn't even finish yet, but she wants me to tip extra on service I haven't even been given? Her whole attitude was just shitty the whole time basically (from ts to finish). It really turned me off from the whole experience. I literally struggle to get a nut off because of her attitude. I eventually lose my "Will" (if you know what I mean) for a bit and she is like "maybe not today" and I'm thinking,"no maybe you need to not be a ***** and stop making me feel weird about all of this." I ask her to give me 5 minutes so I can gather my thoughts and she is hesitant but then she agrees. She leaves and then comes back in literally like 1 minute and keeps saying maybe not today come back again etc. And I'm like no, let me try. So I get it back by focusing on someone else and I get the nut off. Mind you its been like 45 minutes total, not the whole hour so its not like I was going past the time limit. As I'm getting dressed its like she wants me to hurry up. She is standing by the door with her hand on the knob with the door cracked open peaking out of it and then looking back at me then peaking back out. So I'm trying to put my clothes on faster to oblige this chick. Then she just ups and walks out and I'm thinking damn I can't put this stuff on any faster. She comes right back and is staring at me with the door like half open waiting and then I finally get my shoes on and She walks me out. I feel like I wasted my money. I didn't leave the way I left all my other experiences at an AMP. I wasn't happy, but I wasn't upset. I just felt like "man, whatever" after I left. I don't like it. I felt GREAT after leaving the first time. This time I felt like it would have been better to have that money in my pocket still. And it slowly ate at me more and more over time to where I'm laying in bed trying to sleep and I can't stop thinking about how annoyed I am now about the whole situation to where instead of me posting my reports tomorrow, I had to get it off my chest now. Honestly, The experience kinda turned me off from AMPs in general and I feel like just not even bothering. With that said.

That experience really made me appreciate Mist and Sky more for the attitudes the girls had at those places. I mean, attitude is huge difference, in fact, it's a game changer. Even the chick I messed up with my first time at mist had a attitude 100 times better than this chick (after I made it right with her of course). Damn I wish Mist and Sky were still going.

Anyways. Those are my honest reports and how I felt about them, hopefully I didn't piss anyone off here.

Blowtorch
04-11-11, 12:23
Located in Warrenton VA. Anybody been? I have driven by a few times late at night and it seems to be opne. Good sign?

Computer Luvvv
04-11-11, 12:45
This place that you speak of, you never gave a location, sir.

MrWhatever
04-11-11, 23:30
This place that you speak of, you never gave a location, sir.And I stated why.

Drofnalb
04-12-11, 05:48
Perhaps you could PM him for the location.

We are trying to leave fewer details until DC fully recovers.


This place that you speak of, you never gave a location, sir.

Miketastic69
04-12-11, 17:57
Located in Warrenton VA. Anybody been? I have driven by a few times late at night and it seems to be opne. Good sign?I went out there when it first opened, then about a month later. Its standard NOVA fare, but ok. There is a mattress on the floor (or there was both times I went). Thought to myelf that I was in for a great time. Not so much! It was not part of either session.

BTW, if you have any pet peaves.

Its on the 2nd floor behind a restaurant. There is an elevator that takes you up to their front door. Its kind of an awkward setup. Then there is a lot of space between the door and the floor you can see feet walking by. No carpeting from what I remember. Its pretty clinical setting ecept the mattress

Rogoh
04-12-11, 20:27
With all the closings in DC, is Vermont still open?

Kenji Roma
04-16-11, 19:51
So my brother and I lived in dc for a while and left, but now were coming back and we want to try this thing out so where are to good spots at in dc or northern VA. And what do all these acronyms mean. Please hook me up.

Oppen
04-19-11, 09:25
My first time at H&H. I like the offbeat vibe of the place, birdcage in front, frumpy furnishings, old woman in charge who said,"We have an unannounced guest." I was introduced to Linda, a Latina, and a Caucasian woman (the Ethiopian attendant had left for the day). I chose Linda, who I found quite attractive. Dark hair and eyes, pretty face, in her 30s, nice bee cups. Since it was our first meeting she was a bit reticent, which led to a lukewarm session. She started the shower and then left to change into a dress. I had to wait a bit before she returned to start the massage. She used unscented oils, a light touch, slow pace. The best part was when she massaged my feet. She applied more pressure there. Overall the massage was uninspired. Standard NOVA on the flip, then a heated towel, and another trip to the shower.

I'll visit earlier next time and will try the attendant Whahooboy94 describes in his post.

Freshly Snipes
04-19-11, 12:09
So I get back to this place and the SAME chick greets me and I ask if I can try someone different cause I like variety. She is cool with it. She gets someone else. This time the chick looks like late 20s and early 30s. I think perfect. Face is cute, and body is good with B cups. This is where things slowly god down hill. Hit her with the fee for the massage and I get ready for TS. TS is like any other TS but the whole time I get this wierd vibe from this girl like she has a shitty attitude that she is trying to cover up but you can still sense / read it. Then she goes to dry me up. Kinda half asses it. We get back to the room and I end up having to dry myself up a little more while she left. When she comes back she starts the massage. Massage is painful and not that good. She asks if it feels ok and I obviously say yea cause I'm a man but I swear it felt like she was trying to hurt me. She was putting her whole body into some of those thumb presses. During this process I ask about the FS. She said how much. I offer the standard obviously. She asks for more. I told her I don't have more. We settle on that price. After the massage she asks for the money before everything else. I give it to her. She then asks for more again even tho we settled on a price and I'm thinking what? And then she gives me this look as if I'm cheap. Number 1. We didn't even finish yet, but she wants me to tip extra on service I haven't even been given? Her whole attitude was just shitty the whole time basically (from ts to finish). It really turned me off from the whole experience. I literally struggle to get a nut off because of her attitude. I eventually lose my "Will" (if you know what I mean) for a bit and she is like "maybe not today" and I'm thinking,"no maybe you need to not be a * and stop making me feel weird about all of this." I ask her to give me 5 minutes so I can gather my thoughts and she is hesitant but then she agrees. She leaves and then comes back in literally like 1 minute and keeps saying maybe not today come back again etc. And I'm like no, let me try. So I get it back by focusing on someone else and I get the nut off. Mind you its been like 45 minutes total, not the whole hour so its not like I was going past the time limit. As I'm getting dressed its like she wants me to hurry up. She is standing by the door with her hand on the knob with the door cracked open peaking out of it and then looking back at me then peaking back out. So I'm trying to put my clothes on faster to oblige this chick. Then she just ups and walks out and I'm thinking damn I can't put this stuff on any faster. She comes right back and is staring at me with the door like half open waiting and then I finally get my shoes on and She walks me out. I feel like I wasted my money. I didn't leave the way I left all my other experiences at an AMP. I wasn't happy, but I wasn't upset. I just felt like "man, whatever" after I left. I don't like it. I felt GREAT after leaving the first time. This time I felt like it would have been better to have that money in my pocket still. And it slowly ate at me more and more over time to where I'm laying in bed trying to sleep and I can't stop thinking about how annoyed I am now about the whole situation to where instead of me posting my reports tomorrow, I had to get it off my chest now. Honestly, The experience kinda turned me off from AMPs in general and I feel like just not even bothering. With that said.

That experience really made me appreciate Mist and Sky more for the attitudes the girls had at those places. I mean, attitude is huge difference, in fact, it's a game changer. Even the chick I messed up with my first time at mist had a attitude 100 times better than this chick (after I made it right with her of course). Damn I wish Mist and Sky were still going.

Anyways. Those are my honest reports and how I felt about them, hopefully I didn't piss anyone off here.This is a common mistake among us as men. We are taught from small to be nice to women, no matter what, and this provider knows it, and used it to her advantage thus still being paid in full for sloppy service. The only reason she kept up with shitty attitude was because you didn't put her in her place from when you first sensed it. I'm sure she probably gets away with this all the time; again, most guys will try to accommodate her mood, as opposed to being up front. What we as mongers need to understand is that this is not your typical day to day male-female interaction, where we have to put up with a woman's attitude. They are providing a service. And just like any retail based business, it's all about the customer. You should have politely told her that you didn't come here and pay her your hard earned money to acquire more stress, but rather to alleviate it, and if that's a problem, you want to see another provider, or talk to who's in charge.

Again, your not on a date where we have to go along with the womans attitude, in hopes of getting what we want out of the situation. It's her job to accommodate 'you'.

Kenji Roma
04-19-11, 19:20
I know that people don't posts the names or the address of these places but I need to know. Prices would also be good I just need to know.

Eerock
04-20-11, 10:02
My first time at H&H. I like the offbeat vibe of the place, birdcage in front, frumpy furnishings, old woman in charge who said,"We have an unannounced guest." I was introduced to Linda, a Latina, and a Caucasian woman (the Ethiopian attendant had left for the day). I chose Linda, who I found quite attractive. Dark hair and eyes, pretty face, in her 30s, nice bee cups. Since it was our first meeting she was a bit reticent, which led to a lukewarm session. She started the shower and then left to change into a dress. I had to wait a bit before she returned to start the massage. She used unscented oils, a light touch, slow pace. The best part was when she massaged my feet. She applied more pressure there. Overall the massage was uninspired. Standard NOVA on the flip, then a heated towel, and another trip to the shower.

I'll visit earlier next time and will try the attendant Whahooboy94 describes in his post.I think you missed the hints. The "old woman in charge" is the owner, and she prefers appointments to unannounced guests. So I would suggest calling ahead next time instead of just dropping in.

Oppen
04-20-11, 14:49
I think you missed the hints. The "old woman in charge" is the owner, and she prefers appointments to unannounced guests. So I would suggest calling ahead next time instead of just dropping in.Yes, you're right. I'll do that next time.

Dr Bombay
04-20-11, 19:20
I know that people don't posts the names or the address of these places but I need to know. Prices would also be good I just need to know.That's funny, there's a high school kid with your name on Facebook.

Kenji Roma
04-21-11, 18:03
That's funny, there's a high school kid with your name on Facebook.I'm the original though!

Roamin Roman
04-22-11, 19:46
So my brother and I lived in dc for a while and left, but now were coming back and we want to try this thing out so where are to good spots at in dc or northern VA. And what do all these acronyms mean. Please hook me up.Some of the good spots in DC include (a) the top of the Washington Monument, (be) the Lincoln Memorial and Reflecting Pool, (see) the Smithsonian Museums, (the) the National Archives, and (the) Arlington National Cemetery (in VA). Try them out; you'll find them fascinating and educational.

Seriously, though, the currency of this hobby is information. Such information is gained through experience, the expenditure of one's time, and the exchange of your hard-earned cash for those experiences. Not much of this board's members' infomation came to them gratis. They went out and obtained it.

Imagine if you were to go up to a total stranger on the street and ask him to give you, say, $20 or so. That person would likely tell you to take a hike or give you a much ruder response. You should view asking for info in the same light, at least until you've built up your credibility and shown that you've contributed something to the forum. Right now, you've only got 3 posts to your credit, and none of them contain actionable intel.

Now, in spite of all this, many folks who read this forum have been so generous as to post, free of charge, reports of their personal experiences. It's all there, for anyone to read. You just have to expend some of your own time and energy in reading them; then, you'll know where some of the "good spots" in DC and Virginia are located. But NO ONE is going to deliver it to you on a silver platter. If you and your brother want to "try this thing," you need to get off your@$$ and do some minimal work. Once you do so, and then start sharing some of your experiences, you'll start receiving some quality info from other members.

Got it? It's really quite simple. Now, go forth and report back.

RR

Max Beelyun
04-23-11, 19:48
After a very long hiatus, I happened to be downtown today at Dupont Circle. Having time and cash, I checked:

Asian Mist aka Dupont Therapy (formerly Supra) : Closed, with note on the door and red evidence tape sealing the door.

The Green Door (the other 1333) : I didn't linger due to some shady characters nearby, but I didn't see a bell to ring, so I'm guessing this one is closed.

14K. I knew this was probably still closed, but I was nearby. And they even covered it with a decontamination tent.

I'm sure this isn't news to those who frequent DC more often than I. I went back a few pages on this forum and didn't see anything either. I miss 2004.

Can anyone PM me with any places in DC that are still open? I was also curious about Lisa at the finger care place.

Guess I'll head to the condo tomorrow.

Ginger Man
04-24-11, 06:47
After a very long hiatus, I happened to be downtown today at Dupont Circle. Having time and cash, I checked:

Asian Mist aka Dupont Therapy (formerly Supra) : Closed, with note on the door and red evidence tape sealing the door.

The Green Door (the other 1333) : I didn't linger due to some shady characters nearby, but I didn't see a bell to ring, so I'm guessing this one is closed.

14K. I knew this was probably still closed, but I was nearby. And they even covered it with a decontamination tent.

I'm sure this isn't news to those who frequent DC more often than I. I went back a few pages on this forum and didn't see anything either. I miss 2004.

Can anyone PM me with any places in DC that are still open? I was also curious about Lisa at the finger care place.

Guess I'll head to the condo tomorrow. It is all over but the shouting. One or two spots may be open still, you will have to research to find them, if they are. The glory days are over, and yes, they sure were glory days.

Ginza, Downtown, Supra, Royal, Happiness, Star, and more. All gone, along with my money. Good times were had, though.

Boomer120
04-24-11, 11:27
I've finally recovered from my terrible prior experience and thinking it's time to get back out there. I'll be heading through the woodbridge / fringe NOVA area and was going to give the title a try, but I can't tell if they'll provide the services I'm hoping for. Does anyone have any experience?

DevishJame
04-24-11, 21:17
Hi,

Does anyone know the one on Columbia Road?

Is DC stile or Nova standard?

And also are all the VA ones NOVA standard?

Thanks

Ginger Man
04-25-11, 05:54
Here is how it goes. If you have one, two, or three posts only in your history, you will not be given much. Too much history here, much of it dangerous. Read The Fucking Forum. Take a few hours. Figure things out.

Go somewhere and then post about your experiences in a way that helps others.

Geez, you would think the police academy would offer better training.

Blowtorch
04-25-11, 15:53
Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO!

Any cop could come in here and establish himself with a few fake reports and become part of the gang. I understand the need for discretion, but some of you guys are simply beyond paranoid.

Triple E
04-25-11, 16:23
With all the closings in DC, is Vermont still open?Yes, but standard NoVA finish. That's all.

Max Beelyun
04-26-11, 00:08
Don't you try your reverse psychology on me. It will never work. I love big brother.


Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO!

Any cop could come in here and establish himself with a few fake reports and become part of the gang. I understand the need for discretion, but some of you guys are simply beyond paranoid.

Drunker Irish
04-26-11, 02:59
Don't you try your reverse psychology on me. It will never work. I love big brother.Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

A John
04-26-11, 06:22
No problem, just take your toy and go away then.


Hahahahaha, this place is just like all the others.

Hapki Sul
04-28-11, 09:20
I've finally recovered from my terrible prior experience and thinking it's time to get back out there. I'll be heading through the woodbridge / fringe NOVA area and was going to give the title a try, but I can't tell if they'll provide the services I'm hoping for. Does anyone have any experience?Place is a joke or was when I went there about 4 months ago. I normally ask for more pressure but the therapist used movements that were painful, and even when I told the therapist that it felt like she was just digging her elbows into my back, she was insistent that it was a 'good massage'. Then they were pushy to get a tip after. I've had some really good and some really bad massages. Most of the bad ones were free from friends who were in massage school. This was the absolute worst massage I've ever had, and I paid more than I've ever paid before for that crappy massage.

Freshly Snipes
04-29-11, 11:53
If noobies come in here asking for info, simply ignore them. I'm tired of coming in here and reading page after page of 'RTFF'. If you simply don't answer, they'll get the point.

Roamin Roman
04-29-11, 21:08
Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO!What most of the established members (either Senior or Regular, but with a hsitory of decent posts) on this forum dislike are lazy asses who come bouncing in from some other place and start asking form information without having provided or even offered any of their own. These newbie clowns just waltz on up and post questions like,"Anybody know about____? " or "Where can I find ____? " or "Where is the best place to get FS? " It's not that "we" are part of some clique and "they" aren't; it's simply that they've demonstrated no initiative and offered no intel of any value, but simply cop an attitude when they get a well-deserved smackdown.

Take a look at your 8 posts since joining this forum. You had the opportunity to provide useful intel or give a reports of your findings in any one of them. But instead, ALL of them are of the sort I mentioned above. You've given nothing, but you seem to expect something substantial in return. I've seen newbie's who, on their very first post, have provided great reports. It all depends on the attitude of the individual. Yours tends to suck. You say you've belonged to TBD? Congratulations. Still, we have no way of knowing what the quality of your posts were over on that forum, either, so BFD.

Now, you've got three options, as I see them: (1) Take two steps back, adjust your attitude, and make a new start by giving instead of taking. (2) Keep with your current attitude, post useless comments, and remain bitter or frustrated or both. (3) Lurk in the background and just feed on the crumbs that drift by. If you make a serioous commitment to the first option, you can become a valued participant and "we" will be more than happy to share with you the information that we've gained with our hard-earned dollars and our valuable limited time. If you go for the other two options, have a nice life.

R:R

BlkPrinceVa
04-30-11, 17:22
I'm new to this forum but have been a "hobbiest" for over 15 years. Long-term frequenter of DC AMPs, most of which are now closed. Live in NoVa and occaisionally visit the AMPs. Based on this forum, I've come the learn that of the NoVa Standard Service. I'm glad I found this forum. I've been going to different locations trying to find any that do FS. Now I know none (most) don't. I enjoy a good massage and have found a place that does it legitamately for much less than the AMPs (no TS or HE though). Now that I know of the NoVa Standard, I'll probably stick to me legit massage and save some money. I'll continue to monitor this forum, it's every entertaining.

Ambidextrous
04-30-11, 21:41
Hello, guys, I'm new here, I recently started visiting AMPs in the DC / NoVa area. I've been to about 10 places, learning by trial and error. Going rate seems to be around 80 / hr plus tip of 80-100 for extra service. I make small talk while the massage begins, then start to touch her gently as she works. From there the reactions vary. Most of the time the finish is HJ, sometimes they are willing to take their clothes off and let me touch them. Have had FS only once (covered of course). Have had a couple of disappointing experiences with completely NS massage.

I do not look down on these women because they are sex workers, indeed I try my best to make it a GFE. I am always courteous, clean, respectful and gentle (and generous when warranted). I take no for an answer, though I've been known to plead!

What I am quickly learning is this is a relationship like any other between a man and a woman, chemistry is key. Which brings me to my question. I met one masseuse with whom I 'clicked' and I'm tempted to initiate an 'off-the-clock' relationship with her. Thoughts?