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Big Daddy Don
01-08-10, 12:25
Is Lisa and her teeth still available?Yes she is.

Asianagirl
01-09-10, 21:33
Hello Gents,

Hope you all had a wonderful holidays and I would like you guys to know that I'm back.

Drofnalb
01-10-10, 01:15
Hello Gents,

Hope you all had a wonderful holidays and I would like you guys to know that I'm back.

Our beautiful Asian hottie has warmed up the entire climate.

I assume we need to PM to find out where you are?

Steamvac
01-10-10, 18:21
Hello Gents,

Hope you all had a wonderful holidays and I would like you guys to know that I'm back.Same location as before?

Freshly Snipes
01-10-10, 19:18
Did a good amount of recon today. Even though some of these spots are known to be gone, it's good to periodically check on them now and then, as one spot had been recently reported as being closed, namingly.

M. St Third floor. Open. Hit the buzzer, was surprised they opened up. Was greeted by a woman who looked like she just woke up out of bed. Went to the room, and was told she was the only one working, and that "she would take care of me". Hhmmm let me think about that for a second. She was in her 40's. Her looks out of 10 were about a 4 at best. I'll pass! I just spent $$$ about a week earlier on another well worth, but costly GFE in VA. I wasn't willing to part with anything in my wallet unless the girl was an 8 or higher. Told her I'd be back.

Vermont Therapy- closed. Not sure if it's just closed on Sundays or if it's shut down. Front door was locked, so I couldn't even access the staircase.

1413- closed. A tattoo shop had it's sign up there, but even that said they themselves had moved. Probably been that way for a while.

I. St Bar. Closed. Whole building looks condemned.

1333/Starbucks block. Travelled up the 4 flights, hit buzzer, and was pleasantly surprised that they opened up. This spot has always been my atf. Mamasan peeked out the door and said they were closed today, but that they'd be back open tomorrow. Not sure if she was just trying to get rid of me, or if in fact they were just closed that day. The sign next to the door said 'Grand Opening'. Not sure how long that's been there. It's been a while. Can anyone confirm whether that's new or not. Maybe sunny days are on the horizon again.?

Sun. Got excited as I saw an 'open' sign outside their door. But alas upon closer inspection, it looked like it was for the restaurant beside it. Heavy police presence across the street, deterred me from even ringing the buzzer.

Ginger Man
01-11-10, 18:17
Did a good amount of recon today. Even though some of these spots are known to be gone, it's good to periodically check on them now and then, as one spot had been recently reported as being closed, namingly.

M. St Third floor. Open. Hit the buzzer, was surprised they opened up. Was greeted by a woman who looked like she just woke up out of bed. Went to the room, and was told she was the only one working, and that "she would take care of me". Hhmmm let me think about that for a second. She was in her 40's. Her looks out of 10 were about a 4 at best. I'll pass! I just spent $$$ about a week earlier on another well worth, but costly GFE in VA. I wasn't willing to part with anything in my wallet unless the girl was an 8 or higher. Told her I'd be back.

Vermont Therapy- closed. Not sure if it's just closed on Sundays or if it's shut down. Front door was locked, so I couldn't even access the staircase.

1413- closed. A tattoo shop had it's sign up there, but even that said they themselves had moved. Probably been that way for a while.

I. St Bar. Closed. Whole building looks condemned.

1333/Starbucks block. Travelled up the 4 flights, hit buzzer, and was pleasantly surprised that they opened up. This spot has always been my atf. Mamasan peeked out the door and said they were closed today, but that they'd be back open tomorrow. Not sure if she was just trying to get rid of me, or if in fact they were just closed that day. The sign next to the door said 'Grand Opening'. Not sure how long that's been there. It's been a while. Can anyone confirm whether that's new or not. Maybe sunny days are on the horizon again.?

Sun. Got excited as I saw an 'open' sign outside their door. But alas upon closer inspection, it looked like it was for the restaurant beside it. Heavy police presence across the street, deterred me from even ringing the buzzer.

I walked down 10th street today, the doors to Happiness were open, and workers were inside gutting the place. Ah....if walls could talk.

Batman77
01-11-10, 20:04
Fellars, be careful if you're headed to Dopont Cir. area. The place on 1333/conn. got busted over the weekend. They don't have anyone there but mms answering the telephone. Anyone need more info. PM me.

CabDriver52
01-11-10, 21:42
This seems to be a fun little thing to do. I used to roll past sometimes (in particular Sky, Sun and Royal) when I was downtown. The police across from Sun was something I used to smile about. The time of night I'd visit usually there was a fight at Coyote Ugly and the cops were either occupied or distracted. Next thing. Ding ding. On up I'd go and smile. I visited the front room (real small) with a small spot of the paint missing, look down and see the cops again, checking stuff out or whatever they were doing.

I will be around tomorrow or Wednesday, might be recon time for me. I like walking around downtown. There's always something fun going on. Homeless talking to themselves or their invisible friend. Fights over girls are sometimes a hoot. Businessmen going places, joggers,. It's all fun.

Will post when I get time.

Cabbie!

TwistedBrother
01-11-10, 21:53
Anyone know Sarang Haeyo, who used to post on here? I tried PM'ing him w/o luck. If any of you know him and can pass on an email addy, or at least let him know I'm trying to reach him, I'd appreciate it. We corresponded before.

Alpha D
01-12-10, 00:49
Open sign was lit today and they were fixing the front door. Mammasan was doing QC duty over the workers. Was going with coworkers to eat at the Peruvian place next door. Obvioulsly acted oblivious to the scene.

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Freshly Snipes
01-12-10, 07:23
Fellars, be careful if you're headed to Dopont Cir. Area. The place on 1333/conn. Got busted over the weekend. They don't have anyone there but mms answering the telephone. Anyone need more info. PM me.

Edit. Supposed to be PM

Drunker Irish
01-12-10, 08:44
Open sign was lit today and they were fixing the front door. Mammasan was doing QC duty over the workers. Was going with coworkers to eat at the Peruvian place next door. Obvioulsly acted oblivious to the scene.

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I would be interested in the 'renoations'. Are they going to model it after the 'Virginia" AMPs or will it come back to a DC Amp proper. I didn't like the Virginia set-up, happy ending with a handshake and not so great looking girls. Only one decent girl, Katie, and that was it. They used to have some of the best looking girls there...as in Linda, my all time favorite.

I've done the check out the old places and a lot of the buildings are just plain gone. New World demolished. I wonder if all the people at Popeye's chicken knew what was going on there. 617K demolished or I think it was. I remember seeing all the mattresses thrown out the front door and sitting in a pile. 14K shut down, "Oly" shut down, Wisconsin shut down--I keep driving by there, but nothing. That was one of my favorite places, too.

Green closed, and I remember the place by Camelot used to be white chicks and mixed. That was just rub and tug.

Just think how well a "white" amp would do. Then there was the place above the 'kebab' place on on 10th and whatever by the Hostel. That didn't last too long.

This is depressing on not only how many AMPS have closed, but how much I've spent on the 'hobby' over the years, good grief.

Loopy De Loop
01-12-10, 13:33
I did the Google Maps thing myself and it helped me take a look around the neighborhood. I paid a visit last week in mid-afternoon. I took the Metro, which worked really well. It's only about a 3-4 block walk, mostly along some very busy streets. I approached from the northern end of the block. After you cross the main N-S street, you walk about 100', turn left into the alley and the back entrance is right there. I wouldn't approach from the south because you would have to walk almost a whole block in the alley. Ultimately, I don't think the neighborhood is any worse than the U Street area in which Rio/Olympic was located.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot the good part: I was greeted at the door by Paula, looking stunning in just a warm-up suit. She joined me for a few minutes in the sauna and talked about the experience at the old place and that she took the necessary time & expense to obtain a license for the new place. As a matter of fact, the licenses are prominently displayed on a beam in the main hallway. The new facility was spotless. Someone obviously put a lot of time and money into the interior.

Heidi was apparently the only technician working. Needless to say, she rocked my world and I returned the favor -- 2 or three times for her.

Hello,

I visited the new place around noon yesterday, did not park in the rear but preferred to walk a bit ...

I had room # 7 wich had an exercise bike, a printout saying :no sexual contacts...

Heidi was my therapist she rocked my world too: good TS , good technique ... I WILL return.

Seniors pm for details.

Loopy De Loop
The happy monger Woolf.

Pcpc1688
01-12-10, 22:05
Hello,

I visited the new place around noon yesterday, did not park in the rear but preferred to walk a bit ...

I had room # 7 wich had an exercise bike, a printout saying :no sexual contacts...

Heidi was my therapist she rocked my world too: good TS , good technique ... I WILL return.

Seniors pm for details.

Loopy De Loop
The happy monger Woolf.


Guys,

When did Kgirls start using Heidi as a name?? Sure it wasnt Coco, Suki, Nana, Betty, Cookie, Candy, or Yuki....

I hope she yodeled the living pants off of both of you. Sounds like she did.,lol

PC out

Brahmabull
01-13-10, 09:34
Guys,

When did Kgirls start using Heidi as a name?? Sure it wasnt Coco, Suki, Nana, Betty, Cookie, Candy, or Yuki....

I hope she yodeled the living pants off of both of you. Sounds like she did.,lol

PC out

They pick names easy to say and for us to understand with their limited english, I for one appreciate their creativity in not choosing the same name as everyone else.

Us mongers or I should say some of you though need lessons.
Come on now, you can't all be Mike, Bob, Steve, Dan, Richard, and Fred.

Adobe James
01-13-10, 12:19
Sorry to drop this here, but there doesn't seem to be a section to discuss massage providers beside the AMP variety. Non-FS doesn't seem to belong with escorts.

Anyway, didn't know if anyone had some intel on this provider:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/_the_best_beauty_around_one_stop_shop_24/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=2880099

She's worked out of New York. There don't seem to be any reviews online.

Mrcowboy
01-13-10, 14:37
I use to frequent the eastern spa but it seemed to fall off the map.

Anyone have any suggestion on where I can go other than virginia.

Mrcowboy
01-13-10, 15:23
Anyone know any good amp's in DC area help is much appreciated.

Slick Tool
01-13-10, 17:02
Sorry to drop this here, but there doesn't seem to be a section to discuss massage providers beside the AMP variety. Non-FS doesn't seem to belong with escorts.

Anyway, didn't know if anyone had some intel on this provider:

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/_the_best_beauty_around_one_stop_shop_24/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=2880099

She's worked out of New York. There don't seem to be any reviews online.If you click on the "see other ads by this user" at the bottom of the BP ad, it will reveal another pic which has been repeatedly used by a well-known R.O.B. Move on.

Pcpc1688
01-13-10, 19:07
They pick names easy to say and for us to understand with their limited english, I for one appreciate their creativity in not choosing the same name as everyone else.

Us mongers or I should say some of you though need lessons.

Come on now, you can't all be Mike, Bob, Steve, Dan, Richard, and Fred.BBull,

I was joking man.

PC out

Brahmabull
01-13-10, 21:26
BBull,

I was joking man.

PC outAs was I in the 2nd part of my reply.

Hope your 2010 is filled with success.

Freshly Snipes
01-14-10, 06:14
Did you guys see Fox 5 news last night? They mentioned that 5 AMPS in DC had been raided. They showed a shot of the M.st spa, and they mentioned Orange Spa.

Seems that the Law is really going after these places hard.

The charges mentioned were human trafficking and prostitution.

Dr Bombay
01-14-10, 10:54
Sex trade crackdown

D.C. Attorney General Peter Nickles announced a crackdown Wednesday on massage parlors, health spas and social clubs that officials have found to be associated with prostitution and illegal sex-oriented activities.

District agencies have been using new regulations to immediately shutter such businesses across the city, he said.

Nickles said the city will continue to take legal action against property owners renting space to such businesses.
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A news release listed these businesses among those that have been closed: Orange Spa, 617 Pennsylvania Ave. SE; Star Spa, 1829 M St. NW; D.C. Wrestling Club, 1618 14th St. NW; VIP Spa, 719 Eighth St. SE; and an unnamed business at 1429 Parkwood Pl. NW.

The businesses could not be reached for comment.

Wayward One
01-14-10, 11:20
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/Spas-Clubs-Shuttered-in-Sex-Shops-Sting-81402127.html

Drunker Irish
01-14-10, 13:01
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/Spas-Clubs-Shuttered-in-Sex-Shops-Sting-81402127.html

Yeah, it was a 20 second blip if that....now was it really worth closing them down for a foot note during a 30 minute news story? What did the city get out of that? If anything the AMPs are pretty innocuous.

Wrestling club was a gay venu and not sure about the 1429 parkwood place...did we miss something? LOL

Another place that closed, but not listed....hmmmm. I wonder if they'll be back?

Member #4954
01-14-10, 17:38
I gather these clubs have been open for a while.... did one of the girls rub somebody important the wrong way..... OR didn't rub them at all??!!!
Now if the girls haven't been forced into the business or sold as sex slaves, then whats the harm?? I guess there is no more street crime in the District if the authorities have the time to after girls providing us with a few minutes of harmles fun. Sorry I have a problem with the moral police, If I decide to visit a spa or escort, or whatever, then that is a choice between my conscience and my wallet!.
Thank for the opertunity to vent.

Justforme
01-14-10, 17:52
Any update?


Sex trade crackdown

D.C. Attorney General Peter Nickles announced a crackdown Wednesday on massage parlors, health spas and social clubs that officials have found to be associated with prostitution and illegal sex-oriented activities.

District agencies have been using new regulations to immediately shutter such businesses across the city, he said.

Nickles said the city will continue to take legal action against property owners renting space to such businesses.
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A news release listed these businesses among those that have been closed: Orange Spa, 617 Pennsylvania Ave. SE; Star Spa, 1829 M St. NW; D.C. Wrestling Club, 1618 14th St. NW; VIP Spa, 719 Eighth St. SE; and an unnamed business at 1429 Parkwood Pl. NW.

The businesses could not be reached for comment.

Olgnome
01-14-10, 18:10
Any update?These links were cited this afternoon on another board:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/201 ... alleg.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04488.html

Drunker Irish
01-14-10, 18:40
I think its funny that they closed an AMP that sits between a row of strip clubs.

Cranberries
01-14-10, 19:09
I gather these clubs have been open for a while. Did one of the girls rub somebody important the wrong way. OR didn't rub them at all?!

Now if the girls haven't been forced into the business or sold as sex slaves, then whats the harm? I guess there is no more street crime in the District if the authorities have the time to after girls providing us with a few minutes of harmles fun. Sorry I have a problem with the moral police, If I decide to visit a spa or escort, or whatever, then that is a choice between my conscience and my wallet!.

Thank for the opertunity to vent.DC is a joke. We have some random lady stealing millions from the DC government and no one found out until a bank manager reported her to the FBI for being unwilling to cash one of her checks. We have judges suing dry cleaners for $2M over some pants. We have corrupt police officers, one of which was implicated in a botched-robbery turned homicide investigation that was also written about in the Washington Post a couple of days ago.

DC has much bigger issues to deal with and they decide to waste their resources on spas. What a bunch of morons.

Bigwood
01-14-10, 21:43
Went by J's on M street. There was a sign on the door indicating they were closed. Rang the bell and was taken inside anyways. Charging .70 for the hour.

Also went by 1333 conn and they were open as well.

Freshly Snipes
01-15-10, 10:04
Went by J's on M street. There was a sign on the door indicating they were closed. Rang the bell and was taken inside anyways. Charging .70 for the hour.

Also went by 1333 conn and they were open as well.Taking a big risk with all the heat, aren't we?

Somewhere
01-15-10, 11:25
So I'm coming to DC in a couple of weeks.

Last year I visited the place on M which I understand is closed.

After all these "Closures" am I S.O.L.?

Adobe James
01-15-10, 14:04
If you click on the "see other ads by this user" at the bottom of the BP ad, it will reveal another pic which has been repeatedly used by a well-known R.O.B. Move on.

Thanks. Just seemed TGTBT. Really frustrated that there don't seem to more than one or two quality FBSM in downtown DC. They all seem to be in northern VA or up in the Maryland suburbs. And with all the spa closures, this is a damn shame.

Oldtar
01-15-10, 17:55
DC is a joke. We have some random lady stealing millions from the DC government and no one found out until a bank manager reported her to the FBI for being unwilling to cash one of her checks. We have judges suing dry cleaners for $2M over some pants. We have corrupt police officers, one of whom was implicated in a botched-robbery turned homicide investigation that was also written about in the Washington Post a couple of days ago.

DC has much bigger issues to deal with and they decide to waste their resources on spas. What a bunch of morons.

Well put. Also remember that DC is full of morons who think they can fix all of their problems with guns, including NBA millionaires who should know better. Are there any other resons to stay out of DC?

Alpha D
01-15-10, 18:35
Are there any other resons to stay out of DC?

With the gay marriage issue boiling, you need a strong will to overcome the gag reflex brought on by all the m4m public displays of affection on the sidewalks - even as far west as 14th & K NW.

Doctor D
01-19-10, 16:25
I'm going to be visiting the DC area, based near College Park/Silver Springs and would be interested in recommendations for good quality massage + sensual finish. I am interested in LMT quality masseuses who are mature and experienced. Skills and personality more important than age or looks. It appears there is a lot on offer, and I've been going through many of the posts here and the ads on BP, but I don't know where to begin and thought I'd ask for recs.
Many thanks
Dr D

Baltimonger
01-19-10, 18:18
Yeah, it was a 20 second blip if that....now was it really worth closing them down for a foot note during a 30 minute news story? What did the city get out of that? If anything the AMPs are pretty innocuous.

Wrestling club was a gay venu and not sure about the 1429 parkwood place...did we miss something? LOL

Another place that closed, but not listed....hmmmm. I wonder if they'll be back?

This is 1429 Parkwood Pl. A Single family home:
http://www.movoto.com/real-estate/homes-for-sale/DC/Washington/1429-NW-Parkwood-Pl-310_DC7059031.htm


Well put. Also remember that DC is full of morons who think they can fix all of their problems with guns, including NBA millionaires who should know better. Are there any other resons to stay out of DC?
Sure, clandestine mobile speed cameras.

Squick
01-25-10, 16:49
Just had an awesome encounter with "LeiLei". She was amazingly thorough and sweet both during the TS and after. She teased me near to exploding before we'd really even gotten started. I was really surprised at how trusting she was. I hadn't been there before (although I told her I had) but she didn't seem the least bit suspicious.

But what with the recent crackdowns I'm hesitant to even give hints to the location. I was able to figure it out with simply hints and the LEO aren't stupid. I haven't been able to find a place since Green closed, so I'm nervous about giving hints about this one. How is everyone handling this?

Vikatin
01-25-10, 20:30
Try out other places in Bmore, and NOVA, commute is not at all bad, but crackdowns are happening everywhere.

Somewhere
01-25-10, 23:09
Some I'm coming to DC in a week and will be staying on 9th SW. Last year when I was in town I went to the place on M. With the recent trouble anyone pm me a good place to visit when I visit?

Thanks

Be Safe

Member #4338
01-26-10, 08:01
Just had an awesome encounter with "LeiLei". She was amazingly thorough and sweet both during the TS and after. She teased me near to exploding before we'd really even gotten started. I was really surprised at how trusting she was. I hadn't been there before (although I told her I had) but she didn't seem the least bit suspicious.

But what with the recent crackdowns I'm hesitant to even give hints to the location. I was able to figure it out with simply hints and the LEO aren't stupid. I haven't been able to find a place since Green closed, so I'm nervous about giving hints about this one. How is everyone handling this?

My advice is you can't be too careful in this environment. I suggest that if you have a good thing going that you keep it to yourself and only share with trusted members via PM.

Long gone are the days when the likes of LL cut a wide swath thru DC.

Keep your head down and your powder dry.

Lax

Waterboy888
01-26-10, 23:48
Does anybody know Nana? My best place close?

Alpha D
01-27-10, 02:10
Does anybody know nana? my best place close?
I am concerned that a one time poster would come on here and ask about Green and NaNa. By RTFF one can tell that Green closed and that NaNa was a favorite of some. So it would be easy to glean that info, regurgitate it here, and ask for intel. I'd like to know that Waterboy has first hand knowledge of Green and then maybe we can help him out.

PM me, Waterboy, if you want share some intel. It's a two way street.

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Sleazebum
01-27-10, 14:18
Nana now has ads up on CL as well as BP. Anyone wanting to find her need only look at either of those other sites.

JJ


I am concerned that a one time poster would come on here and ask about Green and NaNa. By RTFF one can tell that Green closed and that NaNa was a favorite of some. So it would be easy to glean that info, regurgitate it here, and ask for intel. I'd like to know that Waterboy has first hand knowledge of Green and then maybe we can help him out.

PM me, Waterboy, if you want share some intel. It's a two way street.

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Fruit Loops
01-27-10, 14:39
I'm new to DC and it's hard for me to find a good massage parlor.

Can someone please PM me and give me some good places in DC.

Thanks

Drunker Irish
01-27-10, 15:58
My advice is you can't be too careful in this environment. I suggest that if you have a good thing going that you keep it to yourself and only share with trusted members via PM.

Long gone are the days when the likes of LL cut a wide swath thru DC.

Keep your head down and your powder dry.

LaxI have to agree with this one. Maybe in the future when there are more AMPs, but its too hot right now.

Hoping April showers bring May Flowers.

Pornbbtiava4
01-27-10, 17:49
Mini over on NY by the "water" club closed down?

Where's the new spot?

Pornbbtiava4
01-27-10, 17:51
Mini over on NY by the "water" club closed down!

Where's the new spot.

Pornbbtiava4
01-27-10, 17:58
I have to agree with this one. Maybe in the future when there are more AMPs, but its too hot right now.

Hoping April showers bring May Flowers.Mini over on NY by the "water" club closed down!

Where's the new spot?

Pornbbtiava4
01-27-10, 18:15
Sorry for posting that many times. My first post wasn't showing up on my computer screen so I posted it again till it finally popped up. But yeah could use a pm.

Brahmabull
01-27-10, 20:03
Mini over on NY by the "water" club closed down!

Where's the new spot?

You have 4 posts, and 3 of them were this one repeatedly posted. You will have to discover the location on your own.

With all the activity in DC, Bmore, and NOVA, we are all a bit skeptical of new people. Sorry about that, but can't help you on this one.

I Am The City
01-27-10, 20:15
Is it me, or are there a lot of people on this site that like to proclam their mongers but can't simply find parlors or girls? I'm new and from reading the forum,I know everyone is just gonna say rtff! Lol. You could be LE asking for info just to shut it down.

Somewhere
01-28-10, 10:47
Whats the point if no one is going to hand out info? Rtff. Have. How do you prove it? Like I said in my previous posts I visited the place on M last year, 2nd floor. It was busy I had to sit on a couch behind a curtian next to an exersise bike and wait. Nice table shower I thin it was. 6 the hour and 1. 5 for FS. But from all the stuff I read I guess that place is closed. I'm in town for 4 days with no car so am looking for something close. I have asked the question but because I don't have 150 posts no one answers?

Anyway Venting and my 2 cents.

Drunker Irish
01-28-10, 11:39
Is it me, or are there a lot of people on this site that like to proclam their mongers but can't simply find parlors or girls? I'm new and from reading the forum,I know everyone is just gonna say rtff! Lol. You could be LE asking for info just to shut it down.

Right now, there are maybe two or three places open, and two of those are sporadic. The third place is in a sketch area, so at this point--I would there are mongers that can't find a good 'commercial' place.

There are independents and private incalls, but those tend to move around and independents are flaky without management coordinating business.

Eerock
01-28-10, 11:40
Is it me, or are there a lot of people on this site that like to proclam their mongers but can't simply find parlors or girls? I'm new and from reading the forum,I know everyone is just gonna say rtff! Lol. You could be LE asking for info just to shut it down.More likely they were pointed here by 4Chan and have come to try to pull chains. Best ignored.

Cranberries
01-28-10, 15:33
Whats the point if no one is going to hand out info? Rtff. Have. How do you prove it? Like I said in my previous posts I visited the place on M last year, 2nd floor. It was busy I had to sit on a couch behind a curtian next to an exersise bike and wait. Nice table shower I thin it was. 6 the hour and 1. 5 for FS. But from all the stuff I read I guess that place is closed. I'm in town for 4 days with no car so am looking for something close. I have asked the question but because I don't have 150 posts no one answers?

Anyway Venting and my 2 cents.Exactly, numbnuts. You visited the place on M last year, 2nd floor and you only now report about it with a shitty description after the place has been closed a few months? And now you feel entitled to information despite never giving any in the first place until its way too late?

Selfish prick.

Squick
01-28-10, 18:49
Whats the point if no one is going to hand out info? Rtff. Have. How do you prove it? Like I said in my previous posts I visited the place on M last year, 2nd floor. It was busy I had to sit on a couch behind a curtian next to an exersise bike and wait. Nice table shower I thin it was. 6 the hour and 1. 5 for FS. But from all the stuff I read I guess that place is closed. I'm in town for 4 days with no car so am looking for something close. I have asked the question but because I don't have 150 posts no one answers?

Anyway Venting and my 2 cents.The point of the forum still stands, but unfortunately your timing is just bad. LE is in the middle of a crackdown of AMPs in the city, so people are playing it safe. Frustrating, sure, but I'm sure you can get the reasoni behind it. It doesn't help anyone if we freely share the information to everyone that asks when the chances of someone being an LEO are so high.

Eventually things will calm down and people will get a little more willing to provide clues. But for now, you have to work with what you got.

I'm not a senior member either, so I get where you're coming from, believe me. But I still prefer it this way, having everything get closed thanks to us.

That said, you can still find places with the info provided on this forum. I did. It just took a bit more work and risk.

Good luck!

Cavetroll
01-29-10, 16:59
I have to agree with my fellow low posters. One would have to be either overconfident, naive or LE to assume that they are entitled detailed info without prior posts. I pm'ed a senior once for tips of the trade, and that was it. I've been in DC for about 6 months and have had about 12 successful hits, all thanks to just those vague hints.

I know some people don't have the time, as they're in town for a day here or there, but come on, it only takes about an hour to read enough back posts to get an idea of where to google. Anything after that is going to be you taking a risk. That's part of the damn hobby.

Like or not, the activities that we all love to engage in are clandestine and morally and legally ambiguous, so suck it up and deal. It's not that hard.

Fj Cruiser
01-31-10, 12:02
Visited a couple times in the last 2 months. Each time MMS started by matching me up with a fairly unattractive therapist. Both time's I've asked to see the MMS and have switched to someone much better. Last time was a therapist named Seven, who I remember from CPHC where I think her name was Joey or Choey? Anyway, it pays to request the therapist that you want. Both of my replacements were excellent. House fee is now. 7 and tip is same as it has been. I have always enjoyed this place and plan to return.

Hitman 127
02-01-10, 00:34
I don't think 1333 is open anymore. I've only been there once. By the time I decifered the post on here and located it I got on soso attempt til they started putting up the closed sign.

VanDriver
02-01-10, 11:55
Visited a couple times in the last 2 months. Each time MMS started by matching me up with a fairly unattractive therapist. Both time's I've asked to see the MMS and have switched to someone much better. Last time was a therapist named Seven, who I remember from CPHC where I think her name was Joey or Choey? Anyway, it pays to request the therapist that you want. Both of my replacements were excellent. House fee is now. 7 and tip is same as it has been. I have always enjoyed this place and plan to return.


Ahhh... CHPC. Now those were the days!

Van

CabDriver52
02-01-10, 18:21
Ahhh... CHPC. Now those were the days!

VanI'll second that Van!

CPHC used to be the best, location was easy to get to, usually they weren't busy and the therapists were top notch. I miss looking out the window and smiling. Sun was the only competition I can think of. Maybe Happiness. Hard to say.

Cabbie!

Be safe out there.

Cavetroll
02-02-10, 22:14
Was outside of the 1333 yesterday, and I saw something that cracked me up. There was a cute Asian girl literally hanging out of the top story window, passing a package down to the next floor by a rope! I have no idea why. The sign did say closed in the window, so maybe they have just gone to ground? At any rate, it made me smile and also wonder what the establishment downstairs has been getting up to.

A John
02-03-10, 08:02
Happiness was always good to me Mama & cookmama liked me. I rember once taken 2-doz live jumbo crabs in, you`ed think I was a king the way they treated me....... those were the days miss those girls :(



I'll second that Van!

Happiness. Hard to say.

Cabbie! Be safe out there.

Freshly Snipes
02-03-10, 08:12
This whole situation is DC is really pissing me off right now. The more I think about it, the angrier I get.

Why is the local government spending all this money and LE man power going after an industry that for the most part, is doing no harm? A man needs sex. A woman needs sex. Two consenting adults get together, and one decides that he wants to pay the other for their time. And that's a fucking crime?! How is that any different then spending money buying a woman gifts, spending cash on expensive dates, etc in the hopes of getting laid? If I meet a woman at a bar, we decide to go home together, we fuck, and instead of giving her roses or chocolates, or make her breakfast I give her 'cash' and tell her to go and buy something nice for herself. Have I just committed a crime? WTF?!

This same money they're spending on going after local AMP's should be spent on 'real crimes' like cleaning up all the city drug dealers. Going after the hordes of rapists and murderers we have in the city. You'd think that with the economy the way it is, that the government and local LE would want to prioritize which crimes are more important to reduce and which ones are not, due to the shortage of money. It's almost as if LE takes the easy, safe route; they'll see a guy standing on a corner, knowing he's up to no good but won't say shit to him, but see an average guy like me run a stop sign, and will pull me over and hassle me, simply so they can feel as though they're doing their job, to some extent.

Now I'm all for LE going after the sick bastards that are involved in human trafficking, especially of under aged girls but for the most part these girls are willing workers. A consenting adult who just happens to like the fast money, this job generates. Nevada has the right idea. LE is basically pissing up a rope going after escorts, and AMP's. They cannot stop the worlds oldest profession, no matter how hard they try. It's a shame we have to sneak around when we're potentially doing nothing wrong. Legalize it. Tax it. It then becomes safer for everyone. Then there will be money freed up in the budget to go after real criminals.

Cavetroll
02-03-10, 17:41
Not to rain on any parades...but a retarded number of women in AMP's are actually illegal immigrants from war torn or impoverished countries. Many of the very girls we are familiar with may have been trafficked. That doesn't necessarily mean kidnapped in the night and forced to be here; it could be as insidious as claiming that America is the land of golden opportunity, and then having all kinds of hidden hooks once a girl gets here. In some places of the country, an extremely common story is a girl comes over on a work or student visa, which then expires. The girl barely knows the language, has no friends or family in the states, and not even enough money to get a plane ticket home. They then get sort of stuck in the profession. Let's face it - 80 bucks for yanking on some old or ugly American's pud is a hell of a lot better deal than flipping burgers.

On less of a downer note, legalization would bring about price capping, competition, and girls who are in the biz at least a bit more willingly.

Drunker Irish
02-03-10, 18:30
I'm just wondering why now. I know they've always tried to crack down on spas, but why now with the heavy handedness.

Who really cares out there other than a few self righteous polliticians who are screwing around anyways with $5,000 escorts and having babies with their mistresses--former presidential candidate, and they are worried about this?

Squick
02-03-10, 19:47
Anybody find themselves spoiled by AMPs? I've visited a few escorts since the crackdown and I find myself disappointed more often then not. Either they look nothing like their picture (never in good ways) or they don't even bother to pretend to be enjoying the experience. And its always right down to business. I find that I really appreciate the build up that the TS and massage provide. It helps establish an at least tentative rapport with the girl. They have always been at least moderately attractive and some surprisingly so. And they are usually friendly, not to mention skilled.

I'm certain this isn't always the case, but at least in my limited experience, you're much more likely to walk away with a smile on your face from an AMP then any escort.

Sleazebum
02-03-10, 23:37
And I agree totally!

JJ


This whole situation is DC is really pissing me off right now. The more I think about it, the angrier I get.

Why is the local government spending all this money and LE man power going after an industry that for the most part, is doing no harm? A man needs sex. A woman needs sex. Two consenting adults get together, and one decides that he wants to pay the other for their time. And that's a fucking crime?! How is that any different then spending money buying a woman gifts, spending cash on expensive dates, etc in the hopes of getting laid? If I meet a woman at a bar, we decide to go home together, we fuck, and instead of giving her roses or chocolates, or make her breakfast I give her 'cash' and tell her to go and buy something nice for herself. Have I just committed a crime? WTF?!

This same money they're spending on going after local AMP's should be spent on 'real crimes' like cleaning up all the city drug dealers. Going after the hordes of rapists and murderers we have in the city. You'd think that with the economy the way it is, that the government and local LE would want to prioritize which crimes are more important to reduce and which ones are not, due to the shortage of money. It's almost as if LE takes the easy, safe route; they'll see a guy standing on a corner, knowing he's up to no good but won't say shit to him, but see an average guy like me run a stop sign, and will pull me over and hassle me, simply so they can feel as though they're doing their job, to some extent.

Now I'm all for LE going after the sick bastards that are involved in human trafficking, especially of under aged girls but for the most part these girls are willing workers. A consenting adult who just happens to like the fast money, this job generates. Nevada has the right idea. LE is basically pissing up a rope going after escorts, and AMP's. They cannot stop the worlds oldest profession, no matter how hard they try. It's a shame we have to sneak around when we're potentially doing nothing wrong. Legalize it. Tax it. It then becomes safer for everyone. Then there will be money freed up in the budget to go after real criminals.

Brahmabull
02-04-10, 08:55
Nevada has the right idea. .

Henderson NV just passed strick laws setting the hours of massage parlors and other various regulations designed to eliminate extra activities at the spas. Not sure I would use Nevada as an example.

Making sex for money legal would be the death of AMPs. If you could go anywhere and pay for sex and have no worries, the girls would have to register and get tested like they do in Nevada, and these AMP girls 90% or more are not legal and could not register, or get regular tests.
They would not be able to compete and there would be pressure like in NV from the legal workers to rid the profession of the "undocumented untested workers" that are taking their business.
AMP girls would still be hassled by LE for providing unlicensed sex services, not having tests etc... Legalizing it would NOT help the AMPs.
It would help you find quality providers, better looking, more service oriented, just like the spots in NV, ones who are doing because they love it.

For those (most) girls who are here illegally or do not have a work visa and should nto be working, legalizing it does not help them 1 bit.

Drofnalb
02-04-10, 21:21
Not to rain on any parades...but a retarded number of women in AMP's are actually illegal immigrants from war torn or impoverished countries. Many of the very girls we are familiar with may have been trafficked.

The thing they say about prostitution is that "the woman really does not want to do it". She is forced to by economic circumstances, and that the act is damaging to them because it is abuse.

WTF, THAT IS WHY THEY CALL IT WORK?!?!

I feel trapped, degraded, and abused at my job also. I would not go back if there was no money in it. I feel damaged at times at well.

I pay good hard earned money to get a service. I do not pretend that she really wants to do it (that is why I am paying her rather than vise versa).

Eatatmoes
02-04-10, 21:55
I'll second that Van!

CPHC used to be the best, location was easy to get to, usually they weren't busy and the therapists were top notch. I miss looking out the window and smiling. Sun was the only competition I can think of. Maybe Happiness. Hard to say.

Cabbie!

Be safe out there.

Sun was my first DC spa...damn what a way to start. As a matter of fact, I think I only hit like three or four of the spas before Black Monday and this recent spate of closings.

I always loved going to Sun before a game or the Metro ride to the 'burbs. Remember Pink? And was it CoCo who said "You supaman!".

Freshly Snipes
02-04-10, 22:07
Henderson NV just passed strick laws setting the hours of massage parlors and other various regulations designed to eliminate extra activities at the spas. Not sure I would use Nevada as an example.

Making sex for money legal would be the death of AMPs. If you could go anywhere and pay for sex and have no worries, the girls would have to register and get tested like they do in Nevada, and these AMP girls 90% or more are not legal and could not register, or get regular tests.

They would not be able to compete and there would be pressure like in NV from the legal workers to rid the profession of the "undocumented untested workers" that are taking their business.

AMP girls would still be hassled by LE for providing unlicensed sex services, not having tests etc. Legalizing it would NOT help the AMPs.

It would help you find quality providers, better looking, more service oriented, just like the spots in NV, ones who are doing because they love it.

For those (most) girls who are here illegally or do not have a work visa and should nto be working, legalizing it does not help them 1 bit.Well to be honest with you, if legalizing it would be the death of AMP's, then I'm sorry, but so be it. AMP's just seem to be the safest route as far as going about acquiring the services I sometimes need. Escorts and SW are a little riskier for obviously reasons. I'd feel bad for the girls effected by this, sorry if this sounds cold, but I'm not going to AMP's for humanitarian reasons.

The point to my rant was that I'm tired of sneaking around like a damn terrorist, when I'm potentially doing what comes natural to all humans; to most living things.

You know I think the only reason why this hasn't been legalized more wide spread is because no law maker wants to be the one that steps out there and has his name attached to this kinda legislation, and it may be simply because he would have to justify his beliefs to his wife/spouse, family members and voters thus coming off like an immoral perv.

America swears it's ahead of the world on everything, but it's one of the most backward free nations in the world when it comes to sex. I was stationed in Germany, years back, when I was in the military, and you had these 'red light district' establishments all over the place. They were as convenient and numerous as CVS drug stores, or 7-11's, and nobody batted an eye. I believe Amsterdam is the same.

Cranberries
02-04-10, 22:32
Not to rain on any parades...but a retarded number of women in AMP's are actually illegal immigrants from war torn or impoverished countries. Many of the very girls we are familiar with may have been trafficked. That doesn't necessarily mean kidnapped in the night and forced to be here; it could be as insidious as claiming that America is the land of golden opportunity, and then having all kinds of hidden hooks once a girl gets here. In some places of the country, an extremely common story is a girl comes over on a work or student visa, which then expires. The girl barely knows the language, has no friends or family in the states, and not even enough money to get a plane ticket home. They then get sort of stuck in the profession. Let's face it - 80 bucks for yanking on some old or ugly American's pud is a hell of a lot better deal than flipping burgers.

On less of a downer note, legalization would bring about price capping, competition, and girls who are in the biz at least a bit more willingly.Umm, no. Which countries do they come from that are war-torn and impoverished? South Korea? They would have had to come from the 50's or earlier to claim that.

Utwogood
02-04-10, 22:44
I'm just wondering why now. I know they've always tried to crack down on spas, but why now with the heavy handedness.

Who really cares out there other than a few self righteous polliticians who are screwing around anyways with $5,000 escorts and having babies with their mistresses--former presidential candidate, and they are worried about this?

Nobody does care except for the politicians. And they do it because it's an easy cause to champion. It would REALLY take balls to start a campaign against outlawing this type of victimless prostitution, but who would risk themselves politically for that? And its always these politicians and such that campaign the strongest against these vices that end up tangled in it themselves.

A John
02-05-10, 06:32
I know CoCo gave the best body on body TS I`ve ever had HUMMMMM!


Sun was my first DC spa...damn what a way to start. As a matter of fact, I think I only hit like three or four of the spas before Black Monday and this recent spate of closings.

I always loved going to Sun before a game or the Metro ride to the 'burbs. Remember Pink? And was it CoCo who said "You supaman!".

Member #4338
02-05-10, 08:11
Sun was my first DC spa...damn what a way to start. As a matter of fact, I think I only hit like three or four of the spas before Black Monday and this recent spate of closings.

I always loved going to Sun before a game or the Metro ride to the 'burbs. Remember Pink? And was it CoCo who said "You supaman!".

Now as some of you may know I went to a few AMPs over the years...just a few. I always had good luck at Ginza, a spot some of you may not have heard of as it got closed when the MMS tried to bribe one of DC's finest...bad move.

Lax

Brahmabull
02-05-10, 08:48
Umm, no. Which countries do they come from that are war-torn and impoverished? South Korea? They would have had to come from the 50's or earlier to claim that.


South Korea and China are impoverished, they have big cities with large populations that do well and have strong economies. But these girls (despite the lies they tell you) are from rural areas, where it is VERY poor. Especially China, where Chinese Koreans are basically 2-3rd class citizens. Very frew job options are available, they almost always have to go to Russia or the Usa or some European country to find work and send money home.

South Korea, war torn could be an accurate statement even though there is no war, they live with the fear that N. Korea is going to attack them every day, and spend HUGE amounts of money on defense. Money that like many countries could benifit the impoverished people living in the rural areas of the country.

Make no mistake about it. Most of the girls in the area here, are not actually from Korea where they may have been able to survive, most of them are from China. This is an issue with many of them fearing discrimination from Native Koreans in the business, they will tell you they are from S.Korea when in fact they are not.

If you think that lack of options = choice you are mistaken.

Take care the yourselves and the girls in the hobby.

Any Mouse
02-05-10, 12:04
Now as some of you may know I went to a few AMPs over the years...just a few. I always had good luck at Ginza, a spot some of you may not have heard of as it got closed when the MMS tried to bribe one of DC's finest...bad move.

Lax

Aaaah -- Ginza! Many an enjoyable moment with Connie's Ladies! At both (or was it 3?) places. Had a lot of tea and Kimshi in the kitchen over on 11th.

am

Max #01
02-05-10, 14:00
Aaaah -- Ginza! Many an enjoyable moment with Connie's Ladies! At both (or was it 3?) places. Had a lot of tea and Kimshi in the kitchen over on 11th.

am

My ATF back in the good old days was the original Downtown. I never did eat in the restaurant!

Tha X Facta
02-05-10, 14:21
The Amp closures of 2009 (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=748536#post748536).......Remember? (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3841&page=80&pp=15)

One year later............ Seems as though history is repeating itself again.

Cranberries
02-05-10, 15:11
South Korea and China are impoverished, they have big cities with large populations that do well and have strong economies. But these girls (despite the lies they tell you) are from rural areas, where it is VERY poor. Especially China, where Chinese Koreans are basically 2-3rd class citizens. Very frew job options are available, they almost always have to go to Russia or the Usa or some European country to find work and send money home.

South Korea, war torn could be an accurate statement even though there is no war, they live with the fear that N. Korea is going to attack them every day, and spend HUGE amounts of money on defense. Money that like many countries could benifit the impoverished people living in the rural areas of the country.

Make no mistake about it. Most of the girls in the area here, are not actually from Korea where they may have been able to survive, most of them are from China. This is an issue with many of them fearing discrimination from Native Koreans in the business, they will tell you they are from S.Korea when in fact they are not.Your post makes no sense. Most of the girls are actually Chinese but they lie about it because they are afraid of discrimination from the minority Native Koreans? Maybe you met a couple of girls that are actually Chinese but I'm pretty damn sure that most of them are Korean.

Andy Meet
02-05-10, 22:56
Wondering if anybody knows where Bunny or Bonnie goes after star spa got closed? I was there last November and it's a very good time.

Thanks

Chaz
02-06-10, 00:11
I agree with Cranberries. There re so many sonsensical statements in Brahmabull's post I wouldn't even know where to start.

Parkinsons
02-06-10, 01:51
Your post makes no sense. Most of the girls are actually Chinese but they lie about it because they are afraid of discrimination from the minority Native Koreans? Maybe you met a couple of girls that are actually Chinese but I'm pretty damn sure that most of them are Korean.I can confirm what B-bull said is true. I know of 3 AMPs where I go to that are either owned by, run by, or staffed with Chinese people of Korean descent.

The other night as I was walking out of my favorite place after a wonderful and glorious FS session, I passed by mamasan who was studying a thick-ass book with small prints: Chinese/Korean/English tri-lingual dictionary.

Read up on this subject (not about the spa industry per se, but about this particular ethnic group:

http://en. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_China

To non-Asians, this is a minor nuance but nonetheless it exists.

Ginger Man
02-06-10, 07:39
Aaaah -- Ginza! Many an enjoyable moment with Connie's Ladies! At both (or was it 3?) places. Had a lot of tea and Kimshi in the kitchen over on 11th.

am

Before that she had Yoko Spa in DuPont Circle/Florida Ave. Small, over a liquor store. There was an innocent looking Thai girl that worked there who was truly depraved. I liked that in a woman.

Ginza continued that tradition. Gentrification has ruined DC for us hobbyists.

I still remember.

Dairyman
02-06-10, 09:31
Before that she had Yoko Spa in DuPont Circle/Florida Ave. Small, over a liquor store. There was an innocent looking Thai girl that worked there who was truly depraved. I liked that in a woman.

Ginza continued that tradition. Gentrification has ruined DC for us hobbyists.

I still remember.

I remember her....unfortunately i blew my load during the massage because she was so hot.

Brahmabull
02-06-10, 11:41
Your post makes no sense. Most of the girls are actually Chinese but they lie about it because they are afraid of discrimination from the minority Native Koreans? Maybe you met a couple of girls that are actually Chinese but I'm pretty damn sure that most of them are Korean.


You truly show that you do not know much about the inner workings of the spa business. That is ok, you don't need to know anything to be a monger.

That said, if you have no interest in how it really works, fine, just keep your comments to yourself about those of us who do.

Brahmabull
02-06-10, 11:45
I agree with Cranberries. There re so many sonsensical statements in Brahmabull's post I wouldn't even know where to start.


Well it would take you YEARS of dating girls from spas in the area (OUTSIDE THE SPA) for you to get inside enough to have any REAL knowledge of the bussiness. SO since you can not get educated in the short term how about you NOT even get involved with discussions where you have no knowledge of the topic?

I don't care if you like or even agree with me, what I say is true. Just because YOU dont know it, does not make it not true.

Girls will rarely tell you this, because they are afraid you will share it with the next girl (who may NOT be from China) you see at the spa. See mongers can not be trusted to keep their mouths shut. As is this site is proof.

Sleazebum
02-06-10, 13:14
Why all this arguing about Chinese or Korean? Do you intend on marrying her? Even then, would it make any difference?

If that is all we have to discuss here we had best go out and move some snow!

JJ

Brahmabull
02-06-10, 14:27
Why all this arguing about Chinese or Korean? Do you intend on marrying her? Even then, would it make any difference?

If that is all we have to discuss here we had best go out and move some snow!

JJ

Well none to me. I was pointing out the flawed reasoning that there are no impoverished countries where these girls come from. That assumption is FALSE.

Additionally I was pointing out that Chinese-Koreans live below the standards of even poor Chinese people.

Freshly Snipes
02-06-10, 18:07
Why all this arguing about Chinese or Korean? Do you intend on marrying her? Even then, would it make any difference?

If that is all we have to discuss here we had best go out and move some snow!

JJI think today would be the ideal day to make it to an AMP, if many were still open. You could relax knowing an LE raid would be next to impossible!

NukeyNuke
02-08-10, 03:54
Lax, why would you bring up Ginza??? :)

I've been trying to get the memory of that place out of my mind for YEARS now. In my opinion, there was none better...Connie was my girl!

So was Candy... ;)

Nuke



Now as some of you may know I went to a few AMPs over the years...just a few. I always had good luck at Ginza, a spot some of you may not have heard of as it got closed when the MMS tried to bribe one of DC's finest...bad move.

Lax

Tha X Facta
02-09-10, 19:26
Don't know if anyone read the Jan 14th edition of City Paper, but if you google:
Prostitution Enthusiasts Mourn Closing of D.C. Brothels
there's an interesting article. :o

Corsair88
02-09-10, 19:39
Don't know if anyone read the Jan 14th edition of City Paper, but if you google:

Prostitution Enthusiasts Mourn Closing of D.C. Brothels,there's an interesting article.Well, at least that clears the air as to why I've never heard of the wrestling club before. An the to think I thought I missed out on this location.

Freshly Snipes
02-10-10, 07:13
Don't know if anyone read the Jan 14th edition of City Paper, but if you google:

Prostitution Enthusiasts Mourn Closing of D.C. Brothels
there's an interesting article. :oInteresting. You can tell by the tone of it, it was written by a woman.

Max Beelyun
02-11-10, 12:09
Interesting. You can tell by the tone of it, it was written by a woman.
Indeed it was. I'm having it out with her right now. Anyone care to help?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2010/01/14/prostitution-enthusiasts-mourn-closing-of-d-c-brothels/

Please, keep your cool.

Ginger Man
02-12-10, 18:39
Indeed it was. I'm having it out with her right now. Anyone care to help?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2010/01/14/prostitution-enthusiasts-mourn-closing-of-d-c-brothels/

Please, keep your cool.

One, our words were used against our ladies. I am afraid there is just too much information here.
That human trafficking is not what they say. All the gals I have known, more than a few, are in it for the money, and other than certain ongoing business fees, are not indebted to gangsters!

Oh well.....

Brahmabull
02-12-10, 20:32
One, our words were used against our ladies. I am afraid there is just too much information here.
That human trafficking is not what they say. All the gals I have known, more than a few, are in it for the money, and other than certain ongoing business fees, are not indebted to gangsters!

Oh well.....

NONE of the girls in DC were forced here and held against their will. Does it happen, yes sometimes, but not in any of the spas busted, nor in any of the ones I have visited that have stayed open. I have seen the girls outside of their working environment, on vacation and such. This would not be possible if they were "Sex slaves".

NOT ONE CHARGE of trafficking was brought in any of the closures.
The author of the article clearly did very little research and knows no facts about AMPs in general. She was just lazy. And possibly not very bright.

Why would anyone want to carry on a discussion with someone who has already formed an opinion absent facts who has already documented an article which so many errors and incorrect or false statements? She has too much to lose by learning the truth.

MikedD
02-12-10, 21:14
Don't know if anyone read the Jan 14th edition of City Paper, but if you google:
Prostitution Enthusiasts Mourn Closing of D.C. Brothels
there's an interesting article. :o

I did google the link and it was an interesting read. I only get to go up to the DC area once every few months or so. So can any "regular" tell us out of towners what places are open? I use to go to Downtown and the one across from Archibalds on M st. I tried the one next door from Camalots strip club once. All of these places have been posted by me. I am planning on being up in DC late or mid March. Maybe I will have to try MD - I hope not. Thanks and be safe.

Brahmabull
02-12-10, 22:20
I did google the link and it was an interesting read. I only get to go up to the DC area once every few months or so. So can any "regular" tell us out of towners what places are open? I use to go to Downtown and the one across from Archibalds on M st. I tried the one next door from Camalots strip club once. All of these places have been posted by me. I am planning on being up in DC late or mid March. Maybe I will have to try MD - I hope not. Thanks and be safe.

You will have to try MD if you are looking for anything substantial in extras. There may be 1 or 2 special places in the more remote areas of Nova (Woodbridge, Sterling, Dulles). But even in MD several of the better shops have either been closed or closed themselves for safety. There are a few places in MD worth a look.

Sleazebum
02-18-10, 12:18
New AD on CL! Anyone know anything about it???

JJ

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Spending quite time at Asian Mist, which is without equal to any other spa is bound to rejuvenate the senses!


•Location: Washington, DC

OneHitWonders
02-18-10, 20:48
NONE of the girls in DC were forced here and held against their will. Does it happen, yes sometimes, but not in any of the spas busted, nor in any of the ones I have visited that have stayed open. I have seen the girls outside of their working environment, on vacation and such. This would not be possible if they were "Sex slaves".

NOT ONE CHARGE of trafficking was brought in any of the closures.
The author of the article clearly did very little research and knows no facts about AMPs in general. She was just lazy. And possibly not very bright.

Why would anyone want to carry on a discussion with someone who has already formed an opinion absent facts who has already documented an article which so many errors and incorrect or false statements? She has too much to lose by learning the truth.


Some of the girls I know have boyfriends. Funny thing happened once, where one of the girsl answered her cellphone during our session. She chatted briefly and hung up and apologized for the interuption...It was funny at the time!

Cavetroll
02-18-10, 21:15
New AD on CL! Anyone know anything about it???

JJ

*************************

Asian Mist...The New Men's Spa
(202) 293-6363
Oriental Staff - Body Scrubs - Massage Chilling out at bars and being a couch potato can't relieve a person's stress! One of the best ways to unwind and recharge your body and mind is to get a massage at Asian Mist. We're located close to downtown DC. You'll find yourself in an elegantly appointed sanctuary that imparts to all who enter an immediate sense of serenity and harmony. We want your visit with us to feel like you're vacationing at a resort spa, escaping the rigors of the big city.

We offer every spa service you can think of from standard massages and body scrubs to hot towel wraps to a hand and foot-rub...yes; foot-rub! Pampering at its finest!

Call Us Now & Schedule!(202) 293-6363
Spending quite time at Asian Mist, which is without equal to any other spa is bound to rejuvenate the senses!


•Location: Washington, DCIt's an old place. Same number - just google it. They're actually advertising in this climate of shutdowns!

Baltimonger
02-18-10, 22:03
New AD on CL! Anyone know anything about it???

JJ

*************************

Asian Mist...The New Men's Spa
(202) 293-6363
Oriental Staff - Body Scrubs - Massage Chilling out at bars and being a couch potato can't relieve a person's stress! One of the best ways to unwind and recharge your body and mind is to get a massage at Asian Mist. We're located close to downtown DC. You'll find yourself in an elegantly appointed sanctuary that imparts to all who enter an immediate sense of serenity and harmony. We want your visit with us to feel like you're vacationing at a resort spa, escaping the rigors of the big city.

We offer every spa service you can think of from standard massages and body scrubs to hot towel wraps to a hand and foot-rub...yes; foot-rub! Pampering at its finest!

Call Us Now & Schedule!(202) 293-6363
Spending quite time at Asian Mist, which is without equal to any other spa is bound to rejuvenate the senses!


•Location: Washington, DC

Dupont's phone number

Big Dom 5
02-18-10, 23:32
Going to be coming to D.C. next week on business wanted to know if any AMPs close to Hotel George? It's a bit southwest of Union Station.

I can share experiences coming from Missouri, not that any of you would waste time in Missouri, but I can and will share. PM me any info.

Thanks!

Va Ga
02-19-10, 10:29
PM for details. I did not think much of the experience and can see why they are aggressively advertising in the current climate.


New AD on CL! Anyone know anything about it???

JJ

*************************

Asian Mist...The New Men's Spa
(202) 293-6363
Oriental Staff - Body Scrubs - Massage Chilling out at bars and being a couch potato can't relieve a person's stress! One of the best ways to unwind and recharge your body and mind is to get a massage at Asian Mist. We're located close to downtown DC. You'll find yourself in an elegantly appointed sanctuary that imparts to all who enter an immediate sense of serenity and harmony. We want your visit with us to feel like you're vacationing at a resort spa, escaping the rigors of the big city.

We offer every spa service you can think of from standard massages and body scrubs to hot towel wraps to a hand and foot-rub...yes; foot-rub! Pampering at its finest!

Call Us Now & Schedule!(202) 293-6363
Spending quite time at Asian Mist, which is without equal to any other spa is bound to rejuvenate the senses!
•Location: Washington, DC

Exclient
02-22-10, 00:50
PM for details. I did not think much of the experience and can see why they are aggressively advertising in the current climate.I love to know. f/s still there, attitudes of the girls, and what is all these new "extras" about? thanks, ex.

OneHitWonders
02-22-10, 09:46
Going to be coming to D.C. next week on business wanted to know if any AMPs close to Hotel George? It's a bit southwest of Union Station.

I can share experiences coming from Missouri, not that any of you would waste time in Missouri, but I can and will share. PM me any info.

Thanks!


You might want to check out an area called Sterling, VA . Not very far from DC. You can fine the better AMP. All my favorites DC AMP have closed.

Sashimi
02-22-10, 12:07
I love to know. f/s still there, attitudes of the girls, and what is all these new "extras" about? thanks, ex.
It is just a way to squeeze a few more bucks from you. The pizza providers started it, now the grocery stores and insurance companies do it. The airlines do it big time now.

Va Ga
02-23-10, 17:12
I love to know. f/s still there, attitudes of the girls, and what is all these new "extras" about? thanks, ex.If you go make sure you don't get Ruby.

She is take lazy service further than it should ever go.

I gave the place a call after a no show by an escort /BP pro option. I even bought some gifts since things were on short notice (nothing too expensive). I get there and meet Ruby. The TS was methodical to say the least and once we got back to the room she asks me about the tip before we even begin the massage which didn't happen (bad sign). Finally get started and she refuses to do cowgirl only missionary and doggy. Simply put won't go back. I even called the mamasan and she is not concerned at all about the matter.

Facilities 9 (Clean, Spacious, Private)

Looks 6

Attitude 2

Massage 0 (never happened)

FS 3 (complained the entire time)

The reason they are ad heavy probably is because the worked somthing out with the LE and have a small time frame before they need to close shop. Thus service will suck immensely, they probably sold out all the competition as part of the deal. Before I left way too much emphasis on not posting on the net because of LE. If only LE did shut the bad ones but c'est la vie.

Nerdyboy
02-27-10, 14:20
Anybody been?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/thp/1620355417.html

I called and while they have no TS, they are quoting $80/hr + tips

Is Sterling where it's at now, can anybody offer a cat a recommendation?

Ctjoyboy
03-01-10, 21:22
Saw their ad on CL how is this business

Ctjoyboy
03-01-10, 22:16
I am visiting DC this week.

Where are some AMPs where I might find extras from them.

Looked on CL but too many to visit in a week.

Please provide some help.

VanDriver
03-02-10, 10:54
Seems like the 2 previous newbies with names ending in "boy" are pretty similar. In fact, seems like they are pretty LAZY boys!

RTFF Boys!

Van

Parkinsons
03-03-10, 15:58
Went to the spot near the Washington Times headquarters. Drew a young girl, pretty face but flat chested. Doesn't speak a lick of English, no personality whatsoever. Tried the charm offensive, but everything I said to her was like hitting a brick wall. On top of that, after she put the cover on, she tore a little piece of tissue and tucked it under the base of the cover. I was like WTF. May not be a big deal, but all I know is, if anything out of the norm doesn't add me any pleasure, then the provider must be doing it for her own benefits (sanitary?) only. CBJ lasted maybe 1. 5 min. Once I entered, she was twisting my radio knobs crazy like she was looking for frequency from outer space. No doubt, just trying to get me to cum and get it over with.

All you senior mongers who are protective of this place, I understand. That's why I didn't mention the famous street name nor the street number that have become synonyms for this establishment.

But too many girls there are relying on their looks and young age and fail to deliver that all too important factor. Customer service. On the other hand, mamasan can't be anymore pleasant or nicer to me. And she's pretty too. Now for once I'd like to get with mamasan rather than the girls.

Drofnalb
03-03-10, 19:00
Who has had FS with Lisa?

I had not seen her in a while. I got that itch during work today and could not help but to stop by.

It seems I have known her forever. As far as I know I am the one who discovered her and shared information with the masses online.

Well she has changed a bit. Much more experienced and seasoned now. When I first met her she looked like she was just off the boat. Her English is still terrible however.

She looked very sexy today. Tight black jeans, tight top. You guys can keep your young spinners, Lisa is exactly my type.

Saw another woman at the front desk, I went with Lisa to the room. I did not ask for FS but I really would have liked to today. I have heard on other boards that she goes further if you come late in the afternoon, but I have heard no details concerning what the real menu contains.

Her English is so bad that I don't even try to explain.

But the assets today looked, felt and tasted magnificent.
She did everything slow. She is also capable of a very good massage.

door = .4
tip(before) = .6
tip(after) = .2

Well worth it, but I need to take it the whole way next time.

Desu Desu
03-03-10, 19:11
Would recommend if you got a cramp or muscle pain.


Anybody been?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/thp/1620355417.html

I called and while they have no TS, they are quoting $80/hr + tips

Is Sterling where it's at now, can anybody offer a cat a recommendation?

Motor Man
03-10-10, 16:32
This afternoon the DC Police is rather large numbers entered a basement Spa on "M" Street NW. They may no longer be having customers.

Call me Mr. Lucky.

Drunker Irish
03-11-10, 15:52
Rub and tug must still be legal. I walked by Vermont Therapy and in a HUGE sign in the window, it says Vermont Therapy, Open, and the light was on.

Didn't partake, though. Last time I was there, no extras.

Cranberries
03-12-10, 15:38
Are there any AMPs worth going to left? What do you guys do? I know it can't be that easy to just completely stop.

Cavetroll
03-12-10, 22:12
Saw a for lease sign on the 2nd floor of 1829 M st.

Freshly Snipes
03-13-10, 17:53
This truly is a sad, sad era.

Several years ago, at this time of the year, the AMP scene was bountiful, now look at it. It's like the scene has gone the way of the dodo bird. As a youth, I remember hearing about how 14 st used to be a candy store for finding SW's; that's a thing of the past now, but I wonder if 5 years down the road, we'll be telling others about the good old days of the AMP scene? It's never been like this as long as I've been involved in it. Never, and I started going around 1999.

I'd be really surprised if this scene bounces back to what it used to be, but with the lack of reports, the economy, the politically motivated hard-on to rid DC of this industry, I doubt it. That is unless it goes DEEP underground, if it hasn't already. The DMV used to also have a good supply of Lapdance based strip clubs scattered around. They too are a thing of the past.

What do people find so offensively terrible about the sex industry, when it's as natural as breathing?

Dcnewbie
03-14-10, 14:06
I've monitored this board for awhile, but finally signed up out of desperation. I think we're all feeling it.

Has anyone actually gotten into Shell Green?

It's near my house, so I've tried it 3 times now. The first time, I just walked up and in without paying much attention. I recognized the mamasan from, I think, Rio. But she said they were too busy and told me to come back.

And I did. Only to find the place completely scoped by LE. I literally had LE approach me both times. Very uncomfortable.

I wonder if they're working with LE. Or if I timed things badly.

If you've had a good experience, please post it.

And if not, be warned.

Drofnalb
03-14-10, 20:50
This truly is a sad, sad era.

What do people find so offensively terrible about the sex industry, when it's as natural as breathing?

We never stood up for our rights.

This is the result.

I was ready to go public long ago.

Now we suffer the consequences of being so damn stupid.

Motor Man
03-15-10, 16:37
Has anyone been to the Spa on "M" Street basement since last Thursday?

I observed a rather large group of WMPD entering this Spa and I was on my way out?

Parkinsons
03-16-10, 13:17
I've monitored this board for awhile, but finally signed up out of desperation. I think we're all feeling it.

Has anyone actually gotten into Shell Green?

It's near my house, so I've tried it 3 times now. The first time, I just walked up and in without paying much attention. I recognized the mamasan from, I think, Rio. But she said they were too busy and told me to come back.

And I did. Only to find the place completely scoped by LE. I literally had LE approach me both times. Very uncomfortable.

I wonder if they're working with LE. Or if I timed things badly.

If you've had a good experience, please post it.

And if not, be warned.If they were working with LE, then mamasan would've let you in and snare you.

I'm curious to know exactly what did the LE say to you? How could you get in trouble if you told them you were just going to get a massage?

Your post is not making much sense to me. For all I know you could be LE. So I'm not go into details what happened when I went there 2 months ago.

Va Ga
03-16-10, 15:25
We never stood up for our rights.

This is the result.

I was ready to go public long ago.

Now we suffer the consequences of being so damn stupid.Whipped males (include the many white knight mongers) and misguided religious conservatives have the necessary amount of consumer and voting power to crush any stand that would be taken.

You have to re-educate people about the difference between exploitation, manipulation and forced labor. The community that should have been doing this the most is the porn industry which too often tries to cater to the so called mainstream when really they emerged from openly expressing what the main wanted but suddenly you have porn stars who claims they are sluts not ****** and regular people being substituted for pretty people which effectively separated them from the mainstream permanently because how can a regular person relate to this fantasy?

I could and should rant more but probably after the second sentence most have gone to STFU mode.

Aman Tuleev
03-16-10, 21:51
Anybody been?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/thp/1620355417.html

I called and while they have no TS, they are quoting $80/hr + tips

Is Sterling where it's at now, can anybody offer a cat a recommendation?

Legit place. Don't spend Your money and time.

Be Safe,
Aman

Dafrigginman
03-20-10, 12:46
This place is where you need to go, everything is on menu for the right price!

Sleazebum
03-20-10, 18:57
What is "the right price"???

JJ



This place is where you need to go, everything is on menu for the right price!

Brahmabull
03-20-10, 21:03
What is "the right price"???

JJ

$.2 to $.4 at this place sir. Worth it and an occassional drive. If you are going to make the trip do it soon, since word is out, they may not be open long. Nova LE doesn't play.

Va Ga
03-21-10, 05:57
location calls a lot of attention so get while gett'in good ads on BP.

But much better option than Mist.

Staff a bit older and definately inexperienced. Facilities are top notched though seems to be a unique tread recently.

Doctor D
03-21-10, 13:51
I saw this ad on Back Page that looks very intriguing ...
http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ebony-goddess-with-healing-hands-for-a-hard-working-man/3128893

Nothing in the ad text suggests FBSM but the picture sure does!
Any experience with her?
--Dr D

Ampboner
03-21-10, 21:37
This truly is a sad, sad era.

Several years ago, at this time of the year, the AMP scene was bountiful, now look at it. It's like the scene has gone the way of the dodo bird. As a youth, I remember hearing about how 14 st used to be a candy store for finding SW's; that's a thing of the past now, but I wonder if 5 years down the road, we'll be telling others about the good old days of the AMP scene? It's never been like this as long as I've been involved in it. Never, and I started going around 1999.

I'd be really surprised if this scene bounces back to what it used to be, but with the lack of reports, the economy, the politically motivated hard-on to rid DC of this industry, I doubt it. That is unless it goes DEEP underground, if it hasn't already. The DMV used to also have a good supply of Lapdance based strip clubs scattered around. They too are a thing of the past.

What do people find so offensively terrible about the sex industry, when it's as natural as breathing?I am not from this area but visited a few AMP's in the past and have good memories. The shutting down of AMP's is not unique to this location. Ann Arbor, Mi & Toledo, Oh where I was located for a long time used to be exceptionally great. So were many locations through out the mid west and both coasts in the 1980's & 1990's. I saw the change in this decade. With a proliferation of the web & websites as ours many AMP's have been closing all over the place by LE action in the last 10 yrs. Where legal or semilegal in Canada this is not the case. LE reads these pages just like every one of us. You may be correct that AMP's are going the way of the DoDo bird in the US.

Tofer
03-23-10, 23:41
Went on Monday afternoon to the new old place that has recently been mentioned. MMS asked me whether I was new to the place, and I admitted I was, but I mentioned other places I had been to. She said they were closed and I should come back the next day. I was skeptical, but she gestured toward the guy who had walked in behind me, who was. Carrying a carpet, and was clearly a workman. Also, did I mention the "closed" sign was up? So, no nice.

Then I went on a hunt for parking behind the place on N. Capitol. Neighborhood seemed more troubled than ever. Was unsure I had the right address (had not written it down), and parking did not seem secure, so I carried on. Anyone have an positive experience in this regard?

Ended up at the old Supra, against prior good advice in this forum. Man, now I feel soiled. And not due to the act, but due to the partner. Simply not choice. Take the advice in the forum, don't be a fool like I was. Even the little head later regretted the decision to stay there. Clearly they're not getting much business. There was a "closed" sign up but I persisted, unfortunately.

- Question for the gang: Does anyone else politely ask if he can shower himself again, AFTER all is said and done? They always look at me like I am a little crazy, and I have to explain it about seven times. Though it was at Supra years ago that one of the ladies told me about this trick.

Drunker Irish
03-24-10, 06:05
Ended up at the old Supra, against prior good advice in this forum. Man, now I feel soiled. And not due to the act, but due to the partner. Simply not choice. Take the advice in the forum, don't be a fool like I was. Even the little head later regretted the decision to stay there. Clearly they're not getting much business. There was a "closed" sign up but I persisted, unfortunately.

- Question for the gang: Does anyone else politely ask if he can shower himself again, AFTER all is said and done? They always look at me like I am a little crazy, and I have to explain it about seven times. Though it was at Supra years ago that one of the ladies told me about this trick.

Why did one of the ladies tell you about this 'trick'? What is the trick? Or do you mean just to clean-up after you're done? That I can understand. I don't do it, but if you need to get the 'scent' of her, soap, and oils off you--that makes sense, too.

As far as the experience, I had something happen recently that was pretty much the same. Not the act, but the provider. I'm not even going to share the name of the place (different place) because I don't want any of you to make the same mistake, blah.

Sleazebum
03-24-10, 17:23
From www.m-w.com

Main Entry: closed
Pronunciation: \ˈklōzd\
Function: adjective
Date: 13th century
1 a : not open b : enclosed c : composed entirely of closed tubes or vessels <a closed circulatory system>
2 a : forming a self-contained unit allowing no additions <closed association> b (1) : traced by a moving point that returns to an arbitrary starting point <closed curve>; also : so formed that every plane section is a closed curve <closed surface> (2) : characterized by mathematical elements that when subjected to an operation produce only elements of the same set <the set of whole numbers is closed under addition and multiplication> (3) : containing all the limit points of every possible subset <a closed interval contains its endpoints> c : characterized by continuous return and reuse of the working substance <a closed cooling system> d of a racecourse : having the same starting and finishing point
3 a : confined to a few <closed membership> b : excluding participation of outsiders or witnesses : conducted in strict secrecy c : rigidly excluding outside influence <a closed mind>
4 : ending in a consonant <closed syllable>

Just so you do not mis-understand the sign next time!

:)


JJ


Went on Monday afternoon to the new old place that has recently been mentioned. MMS asked me whether I was new to the place, and I admitted I was, but I mentioned other places I had been to. She said they were closed and I should come back the next day. I was skeptical, but she gestured toward the guy who had walked in behind me, who was. Carrying a carpet, and was clearly a workman. Also, did I mention the "closed" sign was up? So, no nice.

Then I went on a hunt for parking behind the place on N. Capitol. Neighborhood seemed more troubled than ever. Was unsure I had the right address (had not written it down), and parking did not seem secure, so I carried on. Anyone have an positive experience in this regard?

Ended up at the old Supra, against prior good advice in this forum. Man, now I feel soiled. And not due to the act, but due to the partner. Simply not choice. Take the advice in the forum, don't be a fool like I was. Even the little head later regretted the decision to stay there. Clearly they're not getting much business. There was a "closed" sign up but I persisted, unfortunately.

- Question for the gang: Does anyone else politely ask if he can shower himself again, AFTER all is said and done? They always look at me like I am a little crazy, and I have to explain it about seven times. Though it was at Supra years ago that one of the ladies told me about this trick.

Dome Ranger
03-31-10, 18:22
After months of RTFF I decided to give it another shot. I had a bad experiance at Orange, but the new eco friendly color worked out real well. Decended down 3 flights of stairs before mamasan appeared. Lead me to a room where Nana soon entered. Table shower, sauna, then back to the room for a quality massage. Exited in the rear where it was suggested that I park next time (I would never park there)

NOTE: It was the Nana who makes funny noises.

Drunker Irish
04-01-10, 16:01
Another one bites the dust. 1818 gone.

Ruffian
04-02-10, 20:40
My morning was almost disastrous but things took a 180 turn for the better. Seniors, PM me if you want my review.

Review Sent To:

Freshly Snipes
Bradley1
Sleazebum

Ginger Man
04-03-10, 06:06
Another one bites the dust. 1818 gone.

DC is done. 1818 was the last of the old ones. I believe it was Asian only before it advertised as IHC back in the mid 1990s. This is a sad turn.

Brahmabull
04-03-10, 08:00
DC is done. 1818 was the last of the old ones. I believe it was Asian only before it advertised as IHC back in the mid 1990s. This is a sad turn.


Conn Ave is still open and doing their thing but I wonder for how long, since in the past week they have been reviewed 3 times on another site, after that goes truly nothing will be left in DC.

Dr Bombay
04-03-10, 09:20
Conn Ave is still open and doing their thing but I wonder for how long, since in the past week they have been reviewed 3 times on another site, after that goes truly nothing will be left in DC.Things don't die, they evolve. There are a lot of good things out there that work better without the wolf pack mentality.

Drunker Irish
04-04-10, 14:54
Things don't die, they evolve. There are a lot of good things out there that work better without the wolf pack mentality.

True, but more of a hassle factor. Used to be a couple minute metro ride, faster than parking. A nice selection if you didn't like one you could try another.

Oh well, you make do with what you've got...

Junky11
04-04-10, 19:12
We have all been very, very spoiled over the many years --there were few places like the DC AMPs in the whole country. Now we just need some male mayor of DC to get elected and tell LE that "the AMPs are a low priority." This is what Barry did and it was great in those days.

I'm off to CR --again.

CabDriver52
04-06-10, 18:21
I have a report but have some hesitation simply posting it on the board for everyone to read.

I can tell you the expreience was a bit different from what I'm used to. Not bad, just different.

Trusted members can PM. Sorry for being cryptic, but I feel it's for the best.

Cabbie!

Mollusk Man
04-07-10, 18:45
Maybe a Shell of its former self, but had a chance last week to check out Sue at the green place. Older, barely spoke english, but probably top of what we have these days.

PM for details.

Mollusk Man
04-12-10, 13:48
Wow. This place is slowing down.

Well I took another trip to the aforementioned shell station on cap st. This time had Nana (not the previously known ones). Short, petite, but nice body. Very enthusiastic. Would recommend. Age 31. Body looks younger, face slightly older.

Rogoh
04-12-10, 19:07
I decided to try asian mist today and all was fine and what I would expect in DC. Nice 30 year old Hawaiian masseuse took good care of me in the TS and also back in the room. Typical DC $.

DCJoe
04-12-10, 21:22
I think today was a good day to go around places and look up at the sky. I imagine everyone is so busy with the happenings at the convention center someone could stroll into an AMP if anywhere still open.

Hkollie
04-13-10, 08:43
This forum is a joy killer! I could be coming to DC this fall for a 6 month tour...wow looks like I may save up some money.

Right now I have the pleasure of Las Vegas AMP's when the mood and cash are in line a decent quality and HUGE quantity are available. Are there any "get out" of DC Places that a guy can go to or is it really this devoid of options?

Thanks sorry to be a little negative but this seems bad.

Cranberries
04-13-10, 10:47
Hi guys,

I just came from a AMP in another state and saw a girl that I recognized from Green last year. Some of you may have seen her and she was only there for a week before they got busted. She's a hot young spinner from California and you know no one else at Green was.

I asked her what happened and she said that they got busted by LE last November or December and she had to pick up trash downtown DC for a whole day. I just thought that was funny.

I asked her if that's why she wasn't coming back to DC and she said it was because there were no customers in DC and the ones that were they never tipped. I just thought it was hilarious!

Cranberries
04-13-10, 10:49
BTW, I was in Atlantic City. There the house fee is $60 and the tip is $140. Lots of hot girls there and they also provide outcall to your hotel. Look up Oriental or VIP. The other AMPs there aren't so great according to the reviews I read.

Member #4061
04-13-10, 13:53
Another one bites the dust. 1818 gone.

Gone where? Someone forgot to tell the parking attendant.

Drunker Irish
04-13-10, 14:31
Gone where? Someone forgot to tell the parking attendant.

If you go to the 'office' the lights are off and mail is stacking up inside the darkened room.

Member #4061
04-13-10, 14:52
If you go to the 'office' the lights are off and mail is stacking up inside the darkened room.

Now that I think about it, you're right it is closed. I was thinking about the other spot down the street and around the corner. The parking attendant is for the club. Sorry for the mix up.

NukeyNuke
04-14-10, 18:58
Hi guys,

I just came from a AMP in another state and saw a girl that I recognized from Green last year. Some of you may have seen her and she was only there for a week before they got busted. She's a hot young spinner from California and you know no one else at Green was.

I asked her what happened and she said that they got busted by LE last November or December and she had to pick up trash downtown DC for a whole day. I just thought that was funny.

I asked her if that's why she wasn't coming back to DC and she said it was because there were no customers in DC and the ones that were they never tipped. I just thought it was hilarious!


I cannot believe what has happened to the DC scene. It's in shambles, and the chicks don't want to come back because we are unwilling to up our prices just a few dollars.

We keep sticking to 160. Baltimore is 170. Dallas is like 180+. Cali is 180+. we need to understand that the spas and girls will set up shop where they can make money. They can go where they want to. And they DON'T go to places where they CAN'T make the most money, unless they have age/weight/attractiveness issues. Simple as that. Until we begin to tip, and the spas eventually work that into their prices, we'll never see a comeback, unless it is a rub and tug. And I'm not into that. I can do that myself.

You know what? With shit in DC being as bad as it is, if spas opened back up with 180-190 rates, most mongers would take that now...and the spas would come back into the city like crack, regardless of the pressure from the local authorities. Mongers might complain but they'd have variety and choice and they'd do it because it was the only game in town.

Mongers in DC are cheap. Look at the providers on Eros or some of the other sites. They want 300+ or more, and there's no TS, no bullshit like that. There are even CL Chickenheads asking for more than the people in DC are willing to pay a spa girl.

Over the 20 years I've been mongering, the spa price has not varied in DC at all in that time. When I started, guess what the price was? 160. Guess what these guys want to pay today? The same 160. That shit don't flow or ride in ANY economy. Now I'm not saying we need exponential jumps in price, but damn, we gotta quit being so fucking cheap and at least take SOME inflation into account.

We in DC are getting what we deserve by being so cheap in the first place.

Cranberries
04-14-10, 19:07
Well that's what the girl told me. I thought she might not want to go back to DC because of the chance of getting busted again and picking trash, but nope...

Her reasoning was that DC guys are weird and don't tip. She said she was planning on leaving due to the lack of income and got busted the day before she was about to leave. Anyway, I know some of you do make the trip so if you have any questions about Atlantic City, hit me up... I'll be doing my AMP hopping there from now on.

NukeyNuke
04-14-10, 19:31
BTW, I was in Atlantic City. There the house fee is $60 and the tip is $140. Lots of hot girls there and they also provide outcall to your hotel. Look up Oriental or VIP. The other AMPs there aren't so great according to the reviews I read.

...to prove what I've been saying.

Total hit in AC, 200. I know this for a fact. I've been there myself. Not 160, but 200. These are simply the facts of life. This is the going rate there. You gotta know, with the girls moving around to the most profitable areas, the spas know what everyone charges and they match them (usually) based on economics. DC is one of the most economically solvent areas in the US right now.

Listen to my words here...

If we are not willing to make it profitable for the AMP to come back to DC, they NEVER will. There are too many other places for them to go.

Oh, you'll find the errant one that will try. But just as soon as they are closed, you'll wait for the next, or deal with the dregs of the industry.

Think about it....

A John
04-15-10, 07:00
I`ve ben saying this for over a year! But some of theis cheap ass`s here just do`nt belive. It`s all about the $$$$$$$$$$$


Well that's what the girl told me. I thought she might not want to go back to DC because of the chance of getting busted again and picking trash, but nope...

Her reasoning was that DC guys are weird and don't tip. She said she was planning on leaving due to the lack of income and got busted the day before she was about to leave. Anyway, I know some of you do make the trip so if you have any questions about Atlantic City, hit me up... I'll be doing my AMP hopping there from now on.



...to prove what I've been saying.
Total hit in AC, 200. I know this for a fact. I've been there myself. Not 160, but 200. These are simply the facts of life. This is the going rate there. You gotta know, with the girls moving around to the most profitable areas, the spas know what everyone charges and they match them (usually) based on economics. DC is one of the most economically solvent areas in the US right now.
Listen to my words here...

If we are not willing to make it profitable for the AMP to come back to DC, they NEVER will. There are too many other places for them to go.
Oh, you'll find the errant one that will try. But just as soon as they are closed, you'll wait for the next, or deal with the dregs of the industry.
Think about it...

Drofnalb
04-15-10, 18:29
I have also been arguing that we all need to pay more. I have heard of some guys paying .7 for grade A ass. I know it seems like you got a deal, all you really got is a girl who thinks she got ripped off. Grade A ass won't take that for long.

These girls a not smoked out Streetwalkers. They are very aware of economics and markets. They are extremely mobile, and are under a lot of pressure.

If it makes you feel better think of the money you save from not having to pretend you love the ho. For those that play the dating game, you probably spend a lot more for a lot less.

My worst nightmare is having to go back to the days of pretending to love a ***** that I really just want to bang.


I`ve ben saying this for over a year! But some of theis cheap ass`s here just do`nt belive. It`s all about the $$$$$$$$$$$

Sleazebum
04-15-10, 19:11
Why do we go into the pricing cycle again?

We all - me included will pay the price asked so all of your pissing and moaning about someone being cheap is just so much piss and moan,

Give it a rest and let's not waste the time and space in here arguing about it anymore.

WE do NOT set the price! Never have and never will!

Get over yourself!

PEACE!

JJ



I cannot believe what has happened to the DC scene. It's in shambles, and the chicks don't want to come back because we are unwilling to up our prices just a few dollars.

We keep sticking to 160. Baltimore is 170. Dallas is like 180+. Cali is 180+. we need to understand that the spas and girls will set up shop where they can make money. They can go where they want to. And they DON'T go to places where they CAN'T make the most money, unless they have age/weight/attractiveness issues. Simple as that. Until we begin to tip, and the spas eventually work that into their prices, we'll never see a comeback, unless it is a rub and tug. And I'm not into that. I can do that myself.

You know what? With shit in DC being as bad as it is, if spas opened back up with 180-190 rates, most mongers would take that now...and the spas would come back into the city like crack, regardless of the pressure from the local authorities. Mongers might complain but they'd have variety and choice and they'd do it because it was the only game in town.

Mongers in DC are cheap. Look at the providers on Eros or some of the other sites. They want 300+ or more, and there's no TS, no bullshit like that. There are even CL Chickenheads asking for more than the people in DC are willing to pay a spa girl.

Over the 20 years I've been mongering, the spa price has not varied in DC at all in that time. When I started, guess what the price was? 160. Guess what these guys want to pay today? The same 160. That shit don't flow or ride in ANY economy. Now I'm not saying we need exponential jumps in price, but damn, we gotta quit being so fucking cheap and at least take SOME inflation into account.

We in DC are getting what we deserve by being so cheap in the first place.

Exclient
04-15-10, 21:59
Reports of things being dead in DC are surely being overstated.

I know first hand that not all is as dead as some are saying.

Brahmabull
04-16-10, 07:42
Why do we go into the pricing cycle again?

We all - me included will pay the price asked so all of your pissing and moaning about someone being cheap is just so much piss and moan,

Give it a rest and let's not waste the time and space in here arguing about it anymore.

WE do NOT set the price! Never have and never will!

Get over yourself!

PEACE!

JJ

Yeah because no one here has ever posted shit like "she asked for $.4 but I told her all I got was $." or no one here has posted "I only take inside $.6 total never more and leave the rest/wallet in the car".

You are so right I have never seen these kind of price fixing suggestions posted on this board.. I must have been dreaming or thinking of another forum.


/end sarcasm.

These previous posts are valid, even if the girl excepts less because you took in less or negociated down, they will move on to other more profitable areas because they tire of trying haggle with dudes over fair market value for services.

Sleazebum
04-16-10, 08:25
There is a difference between fantasy and real life after all.

I do, in fact, take no more in than I intend to spend but the hourly rate has increased so that amount had to increae as well.

My whole point in what I have been saying about pricing is to not overtip from the de facto standard of the day - that is what I really mean in all this.

In any case, it just makes no sense to pay out more than is required for anything! When you see the dentist do you ofer them an extra $20 or $40 just because...? Do you tip the cashier at Wendy's?

Same idea. How about the cashier at Macys? How much over the asked price do you give her?

JJ




Yeah because no one here has ever posted shit like "she asked for $.4 but I told her all I got was $." or no one here has posted "I only take inside $.6 total never more and leave the rest/wallet in the car".

You are so right I have never seen these kind of price fixing suggestions posted on this board.. I must have been dreaming or thinking of another forum.


/end sarcasm.

These previous posts are valid, even if the girl excepts less because you took in less or negociated down, they will move on to other more profitable areas because they tire of trying haggle with dudes over fair market value for services.

Fatpig
04-16-10, 09:05
In any case, it just makes no sense to pay out more than is required for anything! When you see the dentist do you ofer them an extra $20 or $40 just because...? Do you tip the cashier at Wendy's?
Same idea. How about the cashier at Macys? How much over the asked price do you give her?
JJ

No but i do give more tip at the bar if I get better service (stronger drinks, more attention) or a larger tip if a waiter is at my call more than just to drop off the food and check.

I NEVER undertip though. That is just douche but I am sure many do that. Services I ask for depend on who I get. And if I get great quality time from someone that I think is very attractive, I do put in .2 more. My expectations have been raised and I reward that.

Sure many of us here are ok to the girls but many mongers are not. Of course SB I have no complaint to anyone that gives standard tip.


<<<<Shouldn't this discussion go in the general thread not the REVIEW thread?? :-) >>>

Drunker Irish
04-16-10, 09:45
I am not buying the argument that we need to pay more to get the girls back into DC.

The fact is they have been operating here for more than twenty years--and accepting the price, that has remained unchanged. Just because the price of bread goes up, doesn't mean everything else has to go up in price.

There really aren't that many spas that provide FS like they do ( or did) in DC. Where its upfront, on the menu, and a straightforward discussion--or no discussion at all.

If you point to cities like New York, operating costs are higher so you'll have a higher price. Philadelphia has the same cost structure was Washington,DC. Providers are about the same quality or less than DC.

The really high quality girls are on the West Coast and in
asia. Pricing is slightly higher in San Francisco, but the quality is off the charts. I would say for an extra $40 in price, you're going from a Toyota Camry to Lexus 460.

Either way, all these arguments are moot, because there is no service in DC anymore. There are other places, but the quality is so piss poor that its not worth even the minimum.

Cranberries
04-16-10, 10:07
Either way, you guys fucked up, and now DC is pretty barren. I'm already planning my next trip to AC and getting that full lineup! When was the last time you saw six beautiful Korean girls standing in a straight line in DC?

And just more evidence they follow the money is that the spinners told me they're just in AC for the spring and summer because that's when they're the most busy...

After that they'll probably move on somewhere else... But probably not here. :(

Freshly Snipes
04-16-10, 10:50
170 -180 is quite reasonable, but in those areas where this is the norm, the quality of the girls reflect this. In DC, i'm gonna be damned if i pay 180-200 for a girl that's less than a 7 on a scale from 1-10. And if i do end up with one, then the service better be spectacular.

If the scene in DC picks back up, and the price does jump up to near 200, some may moan about it, for a while, but men in general will compromise and part with what's in their wallet, when it comes to woman, no matter what they say; it's the way it's always been. The quality should to be there and reflect the price, as should the service.

Brahmabull
04-16-10, 11:29
I am not buying the argument that we need to pay more to get the girls back into DC.

The fact is they have been operating here for more than twenty years--and accepting the price, that has remained unchanged. Just because the price of bread goes up, doesn't mean everything else has to go up in price.

There really aren't that many spas that provide FS like they do ( or did) in DC. Where its upfront, on the menu, and a straightforward discussion--or no discussion at all.

If you point to cities like New York, operating costs are higher so you'll have a higher price. Philadelphia has the same cost structure was Washington,DC. Providers are about the same quality or less than DC.

The really high quality girls are on the West Coast and in
asia. Pricing is slightly higher in San Francisco, but the quality is off the charts. I would say for an extra $40 in price, you're going from a Toyota Camry to Lexus 460.

Either way, all these arguments are moot, because there is no service in DC anymore. There are other places, but the quality is so piss poor that its not worth even the minimum.


I am pretty sure that is the point the previous posters were making. Even FS in DC prior to the closings did not have high quality gals. We did not have the best of the best, we had the ones willing to do FS for $. And those were the 40 somethings, who could occassionally look like they were 30ish. If that.
The better looking younger talent goes where they can get the most, once they can no longer earn that they move here.

Like it or not, the talent in DC has always reflected that.

Member #4338
04-16-10, 15:56
If the optimal formula is to have smokin' hot girls and charge a .8 house fee and a $.2 tip, why hasn't some enterprising DC AMP operator tried it? There are plently of really hot Thai and Kgirl providers doing the equivalent of that just across the river in NOVA and they are very busy. Why not DC?

The reason has to be something other than price.

Lax

Ginger Man
04-16-10, 15:59
Re-elect Marion Barry. We live in a time of religious wingnuttery, all around. What was it Churchill said when describing an a**hole?

"He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."

That is Fenty to me.

I wish the damn Rapture would hurry up and happen. Two reasons--
1. I won't miss the pious fanatics.
2. Those of us left behind are going to have a great time! All my friends will still be here.

And the spas will be open and better than ever!

Cranberries
04-16-10, 17:07
If the optimal formula is to have smokin' hot girls and charge a .8 house fee and a $.2 tip, why hasn't some enterprising DC AMP operator tried it? There are plently of really hot Thai and Kgirl providers doing the equivalent of that just across the river in NOVA and they are very busy. Why not DC?

The reason has to be something other than price.

Lax

I imagine it's a Catch-22. They need hot girls to raise the price, but they can't raise the price without the hot girls. Sometimes the spa gets lucky in getting one, like the girl I was talking about, and that's the opportunity for her to make money and then spread the news to her friends that they're making money... But you guys blew it and she doesn't want to go back to DC again.

Also the house fee in AC is only $60 so the girls actually get $140.

NukeyNuke
04-16-10, 17:09
There is a difference between fantasy and real life after all.

I do, in fact, take no more in than I intend to spend but the hourly rate has increased so that amount had to increae as well.

My whole point in what I have been saying about pricing is to not overtip from the de facto standard of the day - that is what I really mean in all this.

In any case, it just makes no sense to pay out more than is required for anything! When you see the dentist do you ofer them an extra $20 or $40 just because...? Do you tip the cashier at Wendy's?

Same idea. How about the cashier at Macys? How much over the asked price do you give her?

JJ


What I said was:

"You know what? With shit in DC being as bad as it is, if spas opened back up with 180-190 rates, most mongers would take that now...and the spas would come back into the city like crack, regardless of the pressure from the local authorities. Mongers might complain but they'd have variety and choice and they'd do it because it was the only game in town."

I didn't say anything about tipping more. I said we cannot be resistant to inflation and paying the inevitable increase in the price.

Your point is well taken. My point is to understand that we have to adjust for 20+ years of inflation, just as we would have to do in ANY industry.

NukeyNuke
04-16-10, 17:25
I am not buying the argument that we need to pay more to get the girls back into DC.

The fact is they have been operating here for more than twenty years--and accepting the price, that has remained unchanged. Just because the price of bread goes up, doesn't mean everything else has to go up in price.

There really aren't that many spas that provide FS like they do ( or did) in DC. Where its upfront, on the menu, and a straightforward discussion--or no discussion at all.

If you point to cities like New York, operating costs are higher so you'll have a higher price. Philadelphia has the same cost structure was Washington,DC. Providers are about the same quality or less than DC.

The really high quality girls are on the West Coast and in
asia. Pricing is slightly higher in San Francisco, but the quality is off the charts. I would say for an extra $40 in price, you're going from a Toyota Camry to Lexus 460.

Either way, all these arguments are moot, because there is no service in DC anymore. There are other places, but the quality is so piss poor that its not worth even the minimum.

Your quality arguement is correct, but I don't agree with the rest.

I walked into a spa in SF a few years ago and my jaw hit the floor. I've never seen so many fine specimens of Asian Womanhood (at least 12) sitting in one room, on one L-shaped couch, in my entire life.

I was so shocked, I went speechless...couldn't even pick one out...each one was a good as the rest. All 10+. One finally got off the couch, walked over to me, put my jaw back into socket, and led me off to bliss.

We NEVER get women of that quality in DC. And my posts below, in my opinion, are the reason why.

We have an extremely limited set of options in DC now. And my posts below, in my opinion, are the reason why.

Yes, operating costs are higher in NY. They've had better girls, also. Philly is equivalent to us, you're right.

Bottom line, if we want spas back, and we want quality, we'd better be prepared and willing to come off the "going DC rate" if we expect it to come and stay.

Nuke

Booth 411
04-16-10, 17:55
Washington DC
The AMP (Asian Massage Parlor) is the most popular business model here. The all-inclusive price is generally $160, with $60 as the house fee. Very few customers. Very stingy tippers. The women that live locally and work locally tend to be on the older side, and most live in the suburbs of Virginia. In the past (up until summer of 2006), the girls would make $800-$1000 a day on average. This is why there about ten AMPs in the city with a total of around fifty girls for your choosing.

Atlantic City, NJ
The money-making season is in the spring and summer, and that is when the AMPs here make the most money. They provide all-inclusive service for $200, with $60 going to the house. They also provide outcall for $300, with $100 going to the house. Many of the girls here come from the New York area. The goal here is also $1000 a day.

New York, NY
The KMP (Korean Massage Parlor) is the most popular business model here, with the ladies taking studio pictures and being advertised all over the Internet as well as the newspaper. The all-inclusive price is $200, with $100 as the house fee. Some KMPs are busy, some are slow. Most of the customers tip generously. Many of the Korean ladies we know of live in Flushing, NY and work in Manhattan out of convenience. There are certain girls who are known as top draws and have been known to make upwards of $10,000 in one week. These days, $1000 a day is good.

Flushing, NY
Most of the KMP girls who work in Manhattan do not work in Flushing. Instead, many of the girls come from all over, including younger girls from Virginia and California, and also local girls who refuse to take pictures to work at a KMP in Manhattan. The most popular business model here is the Chinatown brothel. They cater mostly to Chinese customers, and the girls are rotated every ten days. Their business is based on providing new girls every ten days. Prices are as low as $140 with $40 going to the house. Good service is not required. The Chinatown brothel business model is prevalent in every major city, with some being as cheap as $120 with $40 going to the house. The goal is $1000 per day, but the economy here is also a little slow.

Los Angeles, CA
The Internet AAMP (Apartment Asian Massage Parlor) is the most popular model here. The price is $250, with $100 going to the house, but plenty of girls work independently and pocket all the money. Competition is fierce due to the huge amount of "supply", and due to the economy, it's not enough to be good looking in Los Angeles, you have to also be willing to provide multiple pops, BBBJ, and BBBJCIM. Most of the girls live in Koreatown, Los Angeles. The goal is also $1000 per day, but most are struggling to achieve that target rate. However, they continue to work here out of convenience.

San Francisco Bay Area, CA
The Internet AAMP is the most popular model here also. The price is $200, with $60 going to the house. The girls from Los Angeles who refused to do BBBJ used to come here to work, but now the Bay Area is dominated by former-LA girls who are willing to do BBBJ. Competition is fierce here also, and the goal is $1000 per day. Many are struggling to achieve it.

Chicago, IL
The Chinatown brothel is your best bet here. The price is $160, with $60 going to the house. Many girls from Los Angeles come to work here as the work is easy, and there is a large amount of clients. By easy work, it means the service is bad. Once you cum, you're done. Apparently the economy is still good in Chicago. The goal is $1000 per day.

Mollusk Man
04-16-10, 18:51
When I first started visiting AMPs 3-4 years ago, I tried the "all I have is 130 or 140" shit, or I can you give it to me for less stuff (don't even consider doing it anymore). The response I got was never "ok, fine, but just this time. " It was always absolutely not, the price is 60 for house, 100 for girl. Here is how supply and demand works. Currently zero smoking hot chicks. One smoking hot chick appears but says no less than 200. If you don't want to pay, leave. No where else to go for lesser price and equal value, mongers will pay 200. Eventually other chick will appear and also demand 200, and for variety purposes, mongers will try other chick too. And so it expands. I don't believe this is a tip thing. Its clearly a shut down thing.

Sleazebum
04-16-10, 23:47
The stated price is the price. If they want more they need to say so when price and services are discussed.

I like to know how much cash I am spending before I get caught up in the moment. At such times I would empty the wallet if stimulated.

jj


What I said was:

"You know what? With shit in DC being as bad as it is, if spas opened back up with 180-190 rates, most mongers would take that now...and the spas would come back into the city like crack, regardless of the pressure from the local authorities. Mongers might complain but they'd have variety and choice and they'd do it because it was the only game in town."

I didn't say anything about tipping more. I said we cannot be resistant to inflation and paying the inevitable increase in the price.

Your point is well taken. My point is to understand that we have to adjust for 20+ years of inflation, just as we would have to do in ANY industry.

Member #4338
04-17-10, 04:32
1. It's not about price and quality of service in DC. It is about availability. If I want to see a really hot girl (Thai or Korean) I now go to NOVA and pay $$. It used to be that there were really hot girls available in DC. That is no longer the case no matter what the price is. I reiterate it ain't the price.

2. Can we stop this endless discussion of economics and get back to the stated purpose of this Forum!

Peace and love

Lax

Bunky
04-17-10, 13:05
The DC scene is in shambles, and the chicks don't want to come back because we are unwilling to up our prices.Truer words were never spoken. Depressed prices have all but destroyed the Asian spa scene in Washington.

If you start with a baseline of $160 and add two percent per year you get $195 after 10 years and $215 after 15 years. So adjusted for a (very modest) rate of inflation that $160 session you enjoyed with a smoking hot spa girl during Bill Clinton's first term should require a couple of Franklins and a Jackson.

As the original poster noted, prices in other cities have increased far more than they have in D.C. In Atlanta, for example, the absolute hottest spa girls in town can be found at the Gold Spa -- where a session will set you back between $250-300. At the high end of that range the price is nearly double what the cheapskates are still trying to get away with paying in D.C. But for that kind of money you get to choose from a lineup of stunning girls who actually look like the totally bogus photos you see in the online bait and switch ads.

Here's what I don't understand. By every economic metric the Washington metropolitan area is faring FAR better than just about everywhere else in the nation. We have more educated people earning higher salaries. We have lower unemployment and stronger housing prices. Yet when it comes to the Asian spa scene we can't scrape up enough dough to convince the good looking girls to work here.

Why do you think that is? All those well-educated rich guys have to be getting laid someplace. If it's not the Asian spas, who are they paying for good sessions with an attractive provider?

Bunky

Computer Luvvv
04-17-10, 14:26
Truer words were never spoken. Depressed prices have all but destroyed the Asian spa scene in Washington.

If you start with a baseline of $160 and add two percent per year you get $195 after 10 years and $215 after 15 years. So adjusted for a (very modest) rate of inflation that $160 session you enjoyed with a smoking hot spa girl during Bill Clinton's first term should require a couple of Franklins and a Jackson.

As the original poster noted, prices in other cities have increased far more than they have in D.C. In Atlanta, for example, the absolute hottest spa girls in town can be found at the Gold Spa -- where a session will set you back between $250-300. At the high end of that range the price is nearly double what the cheapskates are still trying to get away with paying in D.C. But for that kind of money you get to choose from a lineup of stunning girls who actually look like the totally bogus photos you see in the online bait and switch ads.

Here's what I don't understand. By every economic metric the Washington metropolitan area is faring FAR better than just about everywhere else in the nation. We have more educated people earning higher salaries. We have lower unemployment and stronger housing prices. Yet when it comes to the Asian spa scene we can't scrape up enough dough to convince the good looking girls to work here.

Why do you think that is? All those well-educated rich guys have to be getting laid someplace. If it's not the Asian spas, who are they paying for good sessions with an attractive provider?

BunkyGood point bunky, but this is DC metro, not other areas. We have been spoiled with the basic 160-180 for so long(hehehehehehe). However I will say this, the economy is very scewed up and most stores, resturants, etc have lowered prices to "get people to spend", is this market actually any different? Now, I am not saying drop prices, but the 160 is very good if you ask me, I mean, 100 bones 5 to 8 times a day sounds like 800 bux a day, not bad by my estimate. Besides, for 230 to plus around here a guy can get GFE. Not a sermon, just a thought(heheheeh), but I do get your point.

Computer Luvvv
04-17-10, 14:37
What I said was:

"You know what? With shit in DC being as bad as it is, if spas opened back up with 180-190 rates, most mongers would take that now. And the spas would come back into the city like crack, regardless of the pressure from the local authorities. Mongers might complain but they'd have variety and choice and they'd do it because it was the only game in town. "

I didn't say anything about tipping more. I said we cannot be resistant to inflation and paying the inevitable increase in the price.

Your point is well taken. My point is to understand that we have to adjust for 20+ years of inflation, just as we would have to do in ANY industry.These young ladies have been well ahead of "inflation" since way back in the Late 80s when I started goin to these places and they are still way ahead of the curve, to earn 100 bones, 10 times a day sounds like a grand a day to me, uuuuumm, inflation? 5 Grand a week, come on son. If anything, the economy is "down" and has been since 05, so go figure. At what they are tryin to upsell to, you can get GFE for that. But, I do see where you are coming from. The problem with DC is that alot of the places were in places where "discretion" was lost, dozens of people walking by, etc. I mean heck, K street was the beast back in the day till a thousand nite clubs opened up next door and all over the block!

Computer Luvvv
04-17-10, 14:44
The stated price is the price. If they want more they need to say so when price and services are discussed.

I like to know how much cash I am spending before I get caught up in the moment. At such times I would empty the wallet if stimulated.

jjYeah, I hear ya sleazebum, I don't like it either when I get all caught up in the moment and then the "upsell" comes. Let me know upfront so I will know what I am getting or I can at least adjust, usually what I do, I just drop one bone on the table and say "its up to you to get those 5 20s", This is my cash on the table at this time, I am putting it back in my pocket for now, if you want all of it go for it. And they know what that means. And trust me, I have pulled back out only 2 20s based on what I recieved in the room. I don't think tipping is the deal in DC, its the locations, there are no good locations, I mean too many people walking by.

Computer Luvvv
04-17-10, 15:06
Yeah because no one here has ever posted shit like "she asked for $.4 but I told her all I got was $." or no one here has posted "I only take inside $.6 total never more and leave the rest/wallet in the car".

You are so right I have never seen these kind of price fixing suggestions posted on this board.. I must have been dreaming or thinking of another forum.

End sarcasm.

These previous posts are valid, even if the girl excepts less because you took in less or negociated down, they will move on to other more profitable areas because they tire of trying haggle with dudes over fair market value for services.Yes sir. I had a girl in Vegas from a strip club come to my room when she got off for 200smax and she took very good care of me, its just that some of us are very spoiled with great service for the prices that is charged in this aea. And this girl was asian and a dime piece, no skinny spinner. very shapely,but such is life,its tug-o-war on this crap. Dude, I recall the days when the tip was 10bux in maryland but that was way back when, the price of fine cars have gone up over the years so I suppose its kool to drive the price of pussy up, haahahahhaa, I had one chick in chantilly place use to give me FS and bbbj for 100bones, what da hell, guess I am just lucky and spoiled!

Computer Luvvv
04-17-10, 15:12
1. It's not about price and quality of service in DC. It is about availability. If I want to see a really hot girl (Thai or Korean) I now go to NOVA and pay $$. It used to be that there were really hot girls available in DC. That is no longer the case no matter what the price is. I reiterate it ain't the price.

2. Can we stop this endless discussion of economics and get back to the stated purpose of this Forum!

Peace and love

LaxMaybe I am lucky, I have had several asian ladies over the past 10years, and I mean several per year who actually offered me FS in the AMPs in Nova and they were nice 20s to 30s of age ladies. I go in, do the standard HJ ending and she say "next time we make luv" and I am like, okay. So, I come back the next day after telling her I will bring back 100bones and she say ok. So,what da hell. Maybe I am lucky ,I dont know but it happens to me a few times a year. (in NOVA) In DC, I just go with the norm! Same thing, 100 bones but I have shelled out more on the upsell 120 ,etc. but was not pleased with the upsell.

Cranberries
04-17-10, 20:10
ComputerLuvvv, do you always have to post ten fucking replies in a row every single time you post. Can you just figure out what you want to say and put it into a single post. This isn't a fucking chatroom.

A John
04-17-10, 22:53
Same shit said over & over, Gets the post count up........


ComputerLuvvv, do you always have to post ten fucking replies in a row every single time you post.
This isn't a fucking chatroom.

Ginger Man
04-18-10, 06:10
there are a lot of guys, a lot, who pay more than the going rate. They have money, and it is not an issue. I had a spa girl tell me of a guy from Florida who tipped her $700 to snort lines off of her body and then do the deed.

Or another guy who would see her twice in one day and tip $500 total. This happened every month or two, he would show up and look for her.

Providers who are very young and pretty can make a lot of money, and guys tip them more just to get their attention.

I know of a guy who visits the same provider every day, for over a year. He may have issues, sure, but he also has $$$.

On another board I wrote of a nineteen year old Korean beauty who (many years ago) made over $100k many months at a spa up north. Guys would tip her all kinds of money, and I know she ended up marrying a millionaire customer.

This stuff is all around.

NukeyNuke
04-18-10, 11:38
All good conversation, but we've have developed multiple tangents here.

The point of my original post was that if we continue to resist inflation price increases, it aids in us ending up in the situation we are in. I'm not saying it is the actual cause of the situation....I'm saying it contributes to it greatly...probably more than we realize or are willing to admit.

Sleazebum, you are correct...we agree...finally :)

I hate getting into these dollar discussions, but this, in my opinion, needs to be adressed.

Hey guys, we're always going to be skirting legalities when it comes to this. And the spas will also. Bottom line is, they will be more willing to handle the risks of the trade if they are getting the dollars they want and if we are willing to give them.

We pay the least in the nation, yet we want the most, under difficult circumstances. Why would they continue here when there is so much more fertile ground elsewhere?

Get my drift?

Nuke

Aman Tuleev
04-18-10, 14:57
who (many years ago) made over $100k many months at a spa up north. Guys would tip her all kinds of money, and I know she ended up marrying a millionaire customer.

This stuff is all around.
Uh-huh! Uh-huh! That's why I am receiving requests like: "Marry me" on regular basis. I am not a millionare at all. Most of those girls are working 7 days a week, and You, guys, You are cheap on them. I can not accuse You in that - most of You did work hard for those money. However, there are nothing even around 100K per year.

Be Safe,
Aman

Bunky
04-18-10, 15:11
Enjoying the discussion gentlemen. Several good points made.

Responding to the argument that if the Asian spas could charge $200-225 the quality would increase, some of you pointed out that "GFE" is available at that price point.

From this I infer that if I'm willing to spend that kind of money I can have a girl friend experience someplace that's not a spa.

My question is simple: What's the next step up from the Asian spa? Where, exactly, should I look for a girl friend experience in the $200-250 price range?

Surfing over to Echo Romeo Oscar Sierra dot com and clicking on the Asian category I see listings for a couple dozen girls. Almost all are offering incalls and prices range from the low $200s to about $300.

I have diligently read all the old posts, and there is precious little coverage of these girls. Can anybody provide any information about this segment of the market?

Bunky

Cranberries
04-18-10, 16:53
Enjoying the discussion gentlemen. Several good points made.

Responding to the argument that if the Asian spas could charge $200-225 the quality would increase, some of you pointed out that "GFE" is available at that price point.

From this I infer that if I'm willing to spend that kind of money I can have a girl friend experience someplace that's not a spa.

My question is simple: What's the next step up from the Asian spa? Where, exactly, should I look for a girl friend experience in the $200-250 price range?

Surfing over to Echo Romeo Oscar Sierra dot com and clicking on the Asian category I see listings for a couple dozen girls. Almost all are offering incalls and prices range from the low $200s to about $300.

I have diligently read all the old posts, and there is precious little coverage of these girls. Can anybody provide any information about this segment of the market?

Bunky

I know what you are talking about but those Asian girls are actually escorts and require screening and is not anonymous like going to an AMP. The ones that don't are either a rip-off or are risky or are old and ugly. I'd love to try out Asian Exotics as I have a thing for Thai girls but they require references which I don't have besides AMPs or employment information which they won't accept because I'm self-employed and work from home.

Hugh Johnson
04-19-10, 11:39
Tales of the DC AMP's demise are greatly exaggerated. CoCo of Asian Mist is my new ATF. I recommend her highly.

OneHitWonders
04-19-10, 19:28
Enjoying the discussion gentlemen. Several good points made.

Responding to the argument that if the Asian spas could charge $200-225 the quality would increase, some of you pointed out that "GFE" is available at that price point.

From this I infer that if I'm willing to spend that kind of money I can have a girl friend experience someplace that's not a spa.

My question is simple: What's the next step up from the Asian spa? Where, exactly, should I look for a girl friend experience in the $200-250 price range?

Surfing over to Echo Romeo Oscar Sierra dot com and clicking on the Asian category I see listings for a couple dozen girls. Almost all are offering incalls and prices range from the low $200s to about $300.

I have diligently read all the old posts, and there is precious little coverage of these girls. Can anybody provide any information about this segment of the market?

Bunky


I am also finding this topic interesting as well. I am willing to pay a little extra for a more a more enjoyable time. It is worth it for me.

I have not been to AC lately, but perhaps I should and try it out based on the reviews others have suggested.

Aman Tuleev
04-19-10, 20:15
My question is simple: What's the next step up from the Asian spa? Where, exactly, should I look for a girl friend experience in the $200-250 price range?
...
Surfing over to Echo Romeo Oscar Sierra dot com and clicking on the Asian category
...
Can anybody provide any information about this segment of the market?


What an interesting set of questions. First of all ... that segment of market is very segmented.

#1 There are traveling indyes, and they starts from $.8 hourly.
#2 There are indyes who are resident on permanent basis, and usually they starts from $$.5 hourly.
#3 There are agencies, which starts from $$.0 hourly.
#4 Other, and I'll not consiter them

I beleive that You will find #1 @cheap hotel in 99% CASES, and #2 and #3 - they do rent apartments often.

Advantages of that segment are : You may get combination of two for one hour, like: 2 pops, or 2 bjobs, or pop+bjob.

Goung to that segment absolutely means no TS. Shower is offered, but, in the case of #2 and #3, You, probably, will get fresh towel, and, probably, You may get slightly used towel in the case of #1.

No hot towels, and cleaning could be done with just a cleenex or brownies, but You always can get second and third shower.

Mediocre massage, and usually it is too short.

Rushing - especially for #1.

GFE - I know couple of asian providers, who could be considered as real GFE. However, I've got that GFE effect on secons/third visit, and through extended hours. It is very possible get GFE with #2, it is possible with #3, but it is rather rare at #1

I would say - that segment of market is very different from AMP. And I am much more frequent @ AMP because of it has many advantages, like: good hygiene, good massage, stable service and good peoples.

However, going with #2 on long term basis could be very interesting, with absolutely no rushing, no time watching, dfk's, conversations, candles, vines, etc, etc, etc ...

Be Safe,
Aman

Ginger Man
04-20-10, 15:25
What an interesting set of questions. First of all ... that segment of market is very segmented.

#1 There are traveling indyes, and they starts from $.8 hourly.
#2 There are indyes who are resident on permanent basis, and usually they starts from $$.5 hourly.
#3 There are agencies, which starts from $$.0 hourly.
#4 Other, and I'll not consiter them

I beleive that You will find #1 @cheap hotel in 99% CASES, and #2 and #3 - they do rent apartments often.

Advantages of that segment are : You may get combination of two for one hour, like: 2 pops, or 2 bjobs, or pop+bjob.

Goung to that segment absolutely means no TS. Shower is offered, but, in the case of #2 and #3, You, probably, will get fresh towel, and, probably, You may get slightly used towel in the case of #1.

No hot towels, and cleaning could be done with just a cleenex or brownies, but You always can get second and third shower.

Mediocre massage, and usually it is too short.

Rushing - especially for #1.

GFE - I know couple of asian providers, who could be considered as real GFE. However, I've got that GFE effect on secons/third visit, and through extended hours. It is very possible get GFE with #2, it is possible with #3, but it is rather rare at #1

I would say - that segment of market is very different from AMP. And I am much more frequent @ AMP because of it has many advantages, like: good hygiene, good massage, stable service and good peoples.

However, going with #2 on long term basis could be very interesting, with absolutely no rushing, no time watching, dfk's, conversations, candles, vines, etc, etc, etc ...

Be Safe,
Aman

Look for your GFEs in the #2 segment, indeed! True when you are lucky to connect with her a bit.

Dc Publius
04-21-10, 03:42
Wow, a lot has changed while I was out of the country. Granted, I never enjoyed the DC scene much and rarely went, but always planed on visiting the 8th st place. Is the Green door still open? I can't believe 1829 is closed. I'm curious about the N. Cap place though, as it's new to me.

Anyway, I guess my post is really to gloat, as I had the pleasure of visiting Thailand during my travels. After that, I don't think I'll ever be able to step back into the DC underground. I would advice you all to take a little trip if possible. Plane tickets are not that expensive and you will have some amazing experiences for fraction of the DC cost. Not everyone can get away, I know, but for those that can, it's money a lot better spent than in DC.

Luther Pinks
04-24-10, 17:44
Hey everyone.

I've never been to an AMP before and am considering giving it a shot. I moved to DC a few months ago so I don't really know too many people here (well enough to bring up this subject anyways.) So I figured I'd see if I can get some assistance here. I assume PMs are probably the best way to go about it, but I was just hoping to get some general info on some places to go, and the best way to go about it. I am an absolute noob in this kinda thing so I would appreciate any help.

Thanks a lot guys.

nut scratcher
04-25-10, 04:43
Same shit said over & over, Gets the post count up........

Speaking of post count... are you going to open up anothe palce like the one on Connecticut Avenue you had a few years back? We miss it.

Hofi35
04-25-10, 08:58
Maybe I am lucky, I have had several asian ladies over the past 10years, and I mean several per year who actually offered me FS in the AMPs in Nova and they were nice 20s to 30s of age ladies. I go in, do the standard HJ ending and she say "next time we make luv" and I am like, okay. So, I come back the next day after telling her I will bring back 100bones and she say ok. So,what da hell. Maybe I am lucky ,I dont know but it happens to me a few times a year. (in NOVA) In DC, I just go with the norm! Same thing, 100 bones but I have shelled out more on the upsell 120 ,etc. but was not pleased with the upsell.
Please PM me with info on places in NoVa where young ladies are working (20-30)???? I don't care about service, just want some young fresh meat, bit tired of same well aged steak that is everywhere

A John
04-25-10, 10:55
Have alot of Info on the in`s & out`s but we have a misunderstanding



Speaking of post count... are you going to open up anothe palce like the one on Connecticut Avenue you had a few years back? We miss it.

Ginger Man
04-25-10, 16:10
But is this the space that was once Sun Spa?

http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/04/good-deal-or-not-multi-level-two-bedroom-penthouse-condo-edition/

If walls could talk.

Freshly Snipes
04-25-10, 20:57
But is this the space that was once Sun Spa?

http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/04/good-deal-or-not-multi-level-two-bedroom-penthouse-condo-edition/

If walls could talk.LOL, sure was. I doubt they'll disclose that in the Realty listing. Plus those walls need a good scrubbing!

Hinder
04-25-10, 22:18
But is this the space that was once Sun Spa?

http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/04/good-deal-or-not-multi-level-two-bedroom-penthouse-condo-edition/

If walls could talk.God I loved that place!

Vice Squad
04-29-10, 17:12
Have alot of Info on the in`s & out`s but we have a misunderstanding
Originally Posted by nut scratcher
Speaking of post count... are you going to open up anothe palce like the one on Connecticut Avenue you had a few years back? We miss it.



I remember that place...right above the Subway Sammich Shop, near the firehouse. Great talent. Very nice atmospehere too... has it relocated? The mamsan was a great provider as well.

Exclient
04-29-10, 17:54
These independant Tantric massage providers on BP and other places, esp the ones that are charging up to $$$ or $$$$ for a 60 or 90 min tantric massage, or mutual touch tantric massage. Are they worth it? What are you getting for a tantric massage, esp. for a $$$ tantric massage?

Dafrigginman
04-30-10, 11:50
http://www.leesburg2day.com/articles/2010/04/29/ashburn_today/news/845raid042910.txt

This place was pretty good.

However, I knew it was only a matter of time.

Dafrigginman
04-30-10, 11:57
Another one bites the dust:

http://www.leesburg2day.com/articles/2010/04/29/ashburn_today/news/845raid042910.txt

A John
04-30-10, 17:36
This Thread is for WASHINGTON DC. your NO.VA report belongs here

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3958

and its old news........


http://www.leesburg2day.com/articles/2010/04/29/ashburn_today/news/845raid042910.txtThis place was pretty good. However, I knew it was only a matter of time.
Another one bites the dust:http://www.leesburg2day.com/articles/2010/04/29/ashburn_today/news/845raid042910.txt

NukeyNuke
05-01-10, 12:06
I remember that place...right above the Subway Sammich Shop, near the firehouse. Great talent. Very nice atmospehere too... has it relocated? The mamsan was a great provider as well.Me and my brothers hit that place one weekend night. Captured all 4 providers in a frenzy. We got a line-up, showered, and it was on!

CabDriver52
05-01-10, 16:12
I remember that place...right above the Subway Sammich Shop, near the firehouse. Great talent. Very nice atmospehere too... has it relocated? The mamsan was a great provider as well.CPHC was the best. Location was awesome!! No nonsense place as well. Get in, get it on and get out. Sometimes I used to look out the window and see the people going past, smile to myself and relax waiting for her to come back.

Hear hear to good memories!

Cabbie!

Mollusk Man
05-01-10, 22:05
Went to the N. Cap st. Green place, and met with Mona. Mamasan told me she would give younger girl before I came. Mona definitely is younger than what usually see here. She said 26. Very enthusiastic, good time. Would repeat.

Hofi35
05-02-10, 09:45
I remember that place...right above the Subway Sammich Shop, near the firehouse. Great talent. Very nice atmospehere too... has it relocated? The mamsan was a great provider as well.
Very nice place, parking was a little trouble, got few tickets there behind post office, entry very private unlike NoVa places, never got chance to try mamasan, but got to date one of the girls for a while back in late 2005. Think Julie was her name. After that 2006 human trafficking charge, place got closed, then I've seen sign with some middle eastern name in 2007, I don't know what's there now. I think mamasan is back in Korea, becaue she was facing serious jail time for that charge. Too bad.

Aman Tuleev
05-02-10, 22:28
These independant Tantric massage providers on BP

tantra = highprice + drooling

I do not really know about those from BP, but ... based on my experience with two providers from eros: cheap scented candles, mediocre massage, hj only - absolutely no pop, no bj. Too many words on ad is a way to increase price. Also ... both providers was kinda old and in very bad shape, not fat, but flabby.

Hope, someone had better experience.

Stay Safe,
Aman

Hammerin
05-03-10, 23:37
Oh for the good old days! Konie at CPHC delivered two of the best AMP experiences I've ever had.

Mollusk Man
05-06-10, 14:34
I've had some bad yellow fever the past few weeks, and this time went took a trip to Rhode Island for a change of pace. Met up with Jenny. .5 for 1/2 hour option, but 1. 3 for FS. Didn't have the best attitude until the show was over. Decent massage.

Guido For Life
05-09-10, 13:59
I've had some bad yellow fever the past few weeks, and this time went took a trip to Rhode Island for a change of pace. Met up with Jenny. .5 for 1/2 hour option, but 1. 3 for FS. Didn't have the best attitude until the show was over. Decent massage.By far the best AMP in DC that I ever visited outside of Thailand was the one that was across from the verizon center, next to the irish bar/behind Burger King.

I consulted a few blocks from there. They had 19-22 yo consistently who did FS and gave GFE including Rimming. The good old days. In Fact they gave out a card like you get a subway where if you buy 10 sandwiches you get the 11th Free! Awesome.

The one they opened up near 1223 has mostly older women in their 30's. Too old for tastes. I can get that anywhere.

Has anyone tried take out service from the Asians advertising in the City paper online? Age/FS?

Triple E
05-10-10, 17:35
Visited an old friend in Tenleytown about a week ago. They're still around, and while not Asian, not a bad alternative. From the sounds of it when I was there, a fair amount of girls were working, and they hadn't had much business.

If I didn't hear the name of someone working who I'm familiar and happy with, I'd have tried any number of the ones I'm not used to. Variety is the spice of life.

PM for details if you're senior.

Miamifl1972
05-12-10, 19:17
I visited G Nails this week for 30 minute massage. Met Lisa and she is a petite, attractive Asian with a pleasant personality. Massage was unremarkable but the post massage BBBJCIM had good and bad points. Good: it was a BBBJCIM. Bad: way too much teeth. I can still see the teeth marks and lacerations

Choboman
05-16-10, 06:55
Went to the Dragon Boat races on the river this weekend. Been a long time since I've seen that many young asian spinners in one place - unfortunately none of them for me...

Anyway, once that got my attention I went to Jasmine. Met Sherry, who was cute, thin, 30s, with very poor English. Other skills were good though. Had an average massage and a very good finish. Would repeat.

Seniors may PM for details.

Vega Wrap
05-16-10, 08:36
Wow. I was a casual monger back from 2000-04. When I left things in DC were awesome. Beautiful young girls, (koreans I think) shower and full service for 150. From what I'm reading here, are things completely different now? I'd hate to hear that.

Jericho
05-18-10, 15:32
I visited G Nails this week for 30 minute massage. Met Lisa and she is a petite, attractive Asian with a pleasant personality. Massage was unremarkable but the post massage BBBJCIM had good and bad points. Good: it was a BBBJCIM. Bad: way too much teeth. I can still see the teeth marks and lacerations

Yes, a thousand times yes. We must be a desperate lot to keep her in business all this time. If I went often enough, I suppose I might build up callouses...

Mac Jones
05-18-10, 23:38
14K was my first AMP. Sky was my most recent, tonight.
I called and told Mama S. that I couldn't access the place the other day.
She said no problem, the elevator works now.
So I went.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ads/1747606561.html

I met Coco who is a quite cute, tan skinned K girl. The house fee was .6 not .7 as advertised.
Decent shower, not great. Less than mediocre massage, hj, a little DATY, and no more. It was a really mediocre experience, but I left satisfied with a fresh bottle of spring water. I was clean, relaxed, a little drained, and freshly fluffed and buffed. Hey, that's what it's about, right?

Hofi35
05-19-10, 22:04
I visited G Nails this week for 30 minute massage. Met Lisa and she is a petite, attractive Asian with a pleasant personality. Massage was unremarkable but the post massage BBBJCIM had good and bad points. Good: it was a BBBJCIM. Bad: way too much teeth. I can still see the teeth marks and lacerations
Just out of curiousity, you seem to be young, born in 1972, how do you find woman your mothers age attractive. I never been to G nails, but I've read most of the reviews here and on the other site and my understanding is she is atleast very close to 50 if not past, with asians you never know. One way to find out is look at the front of the neck. Up to mid 30ies there is almost no line, past that, the line appears more and more. Most of the asian ladies will take good care of their face, but kind of forget the neck.
We do not need to start another useless talk about it, that's not what this site is about, perhaps I have your # wrong.

Titleist4
05-20-10, 17:49
Just out of curiousity, you seem to be young, born in 1972, how do you find woman your mothers age attractive. I never been to G nails, but I've read most of the reviews here and on the other site and my understanding is she is atleast very close to 50 if not past, with asians you never know. One way to find out is look at the front of the neck. Up to mid 30ies there is almost no line, past that, the line appears more and more. Most of the asian ladies will take good care of their face, but kind of forget the neck.
We do not need to start another useless talk about it, that's not what this site is about, perhaps I have your # wrong.

There's no way for you to "know" that just because his handle has 1972 in it that it is the year he was born. For all we know that's when (and where) he graduated from college. With a PhD. Puh-leaze.

Cavetroll
05-20-10, 18:00
I can't speak for everyone, but I do tend to prefer women around my age or younger. That said, older women can be attractive as well. When it comes to sex, age. Up to certain point. Is just a number, especially if skill is factored in. I may be less attracted to a 50 year old than a 30 year old, but if the 50 is way better in bed, I know where my choice is going to be, at least when it comes to the hobby. One may as well ask the older mongers on this board why they like women young enough to be their daughters or even granddaughters.


Just out of curiousity, you seem to be young, born in 1972, how do you find woman your mothers age attractive. I never been to G nails, but I've read most of the reviews here and on the other site and my understanding is she is atleast very close to 50 if not past, with asians you never know. One way to find out is look at the front of the neck. Up to mid 30ies there is almost no line, past that, the line appears more and more. Most of the asian ladies will take good care of their face, but kind of forget the neck.

We do not need to start another useless talk about it, that's not what this site is about, perhaps I have your # wrong.

Sleazebum
05-20-10, 18:06
Why are we so entrenched in these silly personal attacks and useless arguments? Why does anyone know or care what the 1972 in someone's handle means?

Let's just lighten up a little, OK?

If you don't like a post then just ignore it and do not feed the trolls. Or do not be a troll - whatever fits.

JJ



Just out of curiousity, you seem to be young, born in 1972, how do you find woman your mothers age attractive. I never been to G nails, but I've read most of the reviews here and on the other site and my understanding is she is atleast very close to 50 if not past, with asians you never know. One way to find out is look at the front of the neck. Up to mid 30ies there is almost no line, past that, the line appears more and more. Most of the asian ladies will take good care of their face, but kind of forget the neck.
We do not need to start another useless talk about it, that's not what this site is about, perhaps I have your # wrong.

Wanna Amp
05-20-10, 20:51
Looking for Tenleytown spot hoping I could get a hint.

Will somebody help me out.

CabDriver52
05-20-10, 21:20
Why are we so entrenched in these silly personal attacks and useless arguments? Why does anyone know or care what the 1972 in someone's handle means?

Let's just lighten up a little, OK?

If you don't like a post then just ignore it and do not feed the trolls. Or do not be a troll - whatever fits.

JJOk, relax dude. Ever think someone picks the year someone ELSE is born. Or maybe the year a car was made, a lucky number. Something, anything. It's a username, period. Let it go or go away.

Besides, maybe it's time to stop polking people with sticks and post something useful.

I concur with Sleasebum. Lighten up!

Cabbie!

Hofi35
05-20-10, 22:42
This is what I was afraid. You guys need to read the whole post, I did say that I don't want to start another useless talk and perhaps I have the number wrong, that's all folks. Just wanted to find out why he find her atractive and maybe try that place my self. Maybe little talk about that would be good since DC forum has been boring lately. No need to be rude, Sleazbum, sorry sir, but lately I haven't read any useful post from you, only attacking others for their posts. You need to look at your self first, if you don't like the post, don't answer it, just let it go and get back to what this forum should be about, share your experince and have conversation. I know I haven't been posting much lately, I kind of slowed down on visits and those visits I've made are pretty much same so not much to talk about. I read the forum every day and some time I feel like sharing or asking or just talking. Not trying to insult anyone's taste or feelings, just want to find out why people feel and see the way they do. Again, I'm not trying to start any useless conversation, okay? Hope some one will read this to the end.

Exclient
05-21-10, 11:03
Listening to a buddhist CD the other day, about how all we have is the present, and not the past of the future. Then thinking about the anticipation of going to a spa or specific provider vs. actually being there in the moment. I wonder if the anticipation for you all of going is enjoyed more than the actual event. What do you think? I know I've had some moments where I certainly had to make the best of it, and figure out what I can learn from this one particular encounter. This helps me get through it. And another time by all outward observations, I was having a good time, but in my mind, I was getting tired of the old "in-and-out" mechanics of it all, and of course, longed for something more (even though I have, and had, no other options at the time, unless you have some miracle pill that will work on my wife).

So, wondering if anyone else ever had that experience. And btw, are there any buddhists on here? Does anyone approach this hobby from a buddhist perspective? How is that?

Readerx
05-21-10, 19:59
Listened to a concert today. Performer was Sho-ji. Very nice technique which left me thrilled. Played with great facility and with a very light touch, which, as readers know, is my favorite. No comparison with some; better than others. Played in the key of "C". Like to hear her perform again soon.

Be safe,

Rx

Miamifl1972
05-22-10, 10:14
Just out of curiousity, you seem to be young, born in 1972, how do you find woman your mothers age attractive. I never been to G nails, but I've read most of the reviews here and on the other site and my understanding is she is atleast very close to 50 if not past, with asians you never know. One way to find out is look at the front of the neck. Up to mid 30ies there is almost no line, past that, the line appears more and more. Most of the asian ladies will take good care of their face, but kind of forget the neck.
We do not need to start another useless talk about it, that's not what this site is about, perhaps I have your # wrong.


I am an AARP member, but not yet old enough to draw Social Security. The 1972 in my handle is to commemorate Don Shula's unmatched and unbeaten 17-0 season with the beloved Dolphins in 1972. If you recall, the Dolphins' 17-0 season culminated in a 14-7 victory over the Washington "Foreskins" (as we call them in Miami) in Super Bowl VII.

Regarding Lisa's age, I'd put her in her 30's. I have consorted with Asian women in their 40's and she doesn't appear to have reached that milestone yet.

Miamifl1972
05-22-10, 10:49
Visited this place on my last night in DC recently. Entered, went down the few steps to the reception area and hit the buzzer. A very attractive girl in a green negligee met me at the door and asked if I had been there before. I responded that I had not and jokingly asked if I needed a membership card or something. She laughed and led me into the second massage room on the left, which is across from the TS room. She asked "how long" and I said 30 minutes, to which she said, "$70." I asked if they had raised their fees above their competitors and she said they went up to $70 for 30 minutes in January. I acted as though I was going to walk and mamasan shouted out something to her--they went back and forth-- and Suzie then said, "It's $60 for 30 minutes or hour--no problem." I was okay with that and went for my usual, TS followed by massage followed by FS.
After the brief TS, which was actually quite thorough, just brief, Susie asked, "You want massage or boom-boom?" I chuckled because I haven't heard that term from an Asian girl's mouth for many years and opted for the boom-boom as she called it. She stripped completely down and climbed up on the table and spread her legs wide open by pulling up on her thighs and asked me to rub her trimmed and beautiful tulip. As I did this, she started to moan loudly and pulled my manhood to her face (I was standing next to the table). She covered the quarterback (he calls the plays in these places) and commenced BJ. From there we went to CG, RCG, MISH, and finally a Russian finish. In all, I was there about 65 minutes. I would recommend the place and the provider.

VanDriver
05-22-10, 15:18
Listened to a concert today. Performer was Sho-ji. Very nice technique which left me thrilled. Played with great facility and with a very light touch, which, as readers know, is my favorite. No comparison with some; better than others. Played in the key of "C". Like to hear her perform again soon.

Be safe,

Rx

I have no idea what you are saying! Too much code.

Van

Brahmabull
05-22-10, 17:27
I have no idea what you are saying! Too much code.

Van


Yes I agree. What good is it to review in code if you are the only one who knows what you mean.

Hofi35
05-23-10, 21:52
Thanks man
I am an AARP member, but not yet old enough to draw Social Security. The 1972 in my handle is to commemorate Don Shula's unmatched and unbeaten 17-0 season with the beloved Dolphins in 1972. If you recall, the Dolphins' 17-0 season culminated in a 14-7 victory over the Washington "Foreskins" (as we call them in Miami) in Super Bowl VII.

Regarding Lisa's age, I'd put her in her 30's. I have consorted with Asian women in their 40's and she doesn't appear to have reached that milestone yet.

Shonenknife
05-24-10, 12:08
Visited this place on my last night in DC recently. Entered, went down the few steps to the reception area and hit the buzzer. A very attractive girl in a green negligee met me at the door and asked if I had been there before. I responded that I had not and jokingly asked if I needed a membership card or something. She laughed and led me into the second massage room on the left, which is across from the TS room. She asked "how long" and I said 30 minutes, to which she said, "$70. " I asked if they had raised their fees above their competitors and she said they went up to $70 for 30 minutes in January. I acted as though I was going to walk and mamasan shouted out something to her-they went back and forth- and Suzie then said, "It's $60 for 30 minutes or hour-no problem. " I was okay with that and went for my usual, TS followed by massage followed by FS.

After the brief TS, which was actually quite thorough, just brief, Susie asked, "You want massage or boom-boom? " I chuckled because I haven't heard that term from an Asian girl's mouth for many years and opted for the boom-boom as she called it. She stripped completely down and climbed up on the table and spread her legs wide open by pulling up on her thighs and asked me to rub her trimmed and beautiful tulip. As I did this, she started to moan loudly and pulled my manhood to her face (I was standing next to the table). She covered the quarterback (he calls the plays in these places) and commenced BJ. From there we went to CG, RCG, MISH, and finally a Russian finish. In all, I was there about 65 minutes. I would recommend the place and the provider.What spot are you talking about?

Ginger Man
05-24-10, 16:56
What spot are you talking about?

In all due respect, this is a potentially dangerous hobby. Do not be surprised if you get no response. I would recommend you read the forum extensively, go to an establishment or two, and discreetly post your experiences here.

Otherwise you look like LE.

Bunker Buster
05-24-10, 18:37
I am an AARP member, but not yet old enough to draw Social Security. The 1972 in my handle is to commemorate Don Shula's unmatched and unbeaten 17-0 season with the beloved Dolphins in 1972. If you recall, the Dolphins' 17-0 season culminated in a 14-7 victory over the Washington "Foreskins" (as we call them in Miami) in Super Bowl VII.

Regarding Lisa's age, I'd put her in her 30's. I have consorted with Asian women in their 40's and she doesn't appear to have reached that milestone yet.Leave it to Washingtonians to not connect Miami and 1972. I thought it would have been obvious to everyone.

Having seen Lisa's green card, I can confirm that she's over 50.

Omega0003
05-24-10, 23:30
You're kidding with the questions, right?
What spot are you talking about?

Shonenknife
05-25-10, 00:39
Kyoto Spa in Columbia.

Anyone got any info on this?

http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/best-asian-massage-spa-ktoto-_new/3282496

Brahmabull
05-25-10, 07:37
Kyoto Spa in Columbia.

Anyone got any info on this?

http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/best-asian-massage-spa-ktoto-_new/3282496


You need to RTFF. Well reviewed spa, discussion belongs on the Jessup MD or Baltimore board.

If you only put forth a little effort in looking for your answers. Didn't Gingerman already tell you this with your last question?

Sleazebum
05-25-10, 08:48
I seriously doubt that anyone will tell you anything about anything at this point. You have made only 2 postings and both hqave been questions. To avoid being tagged as a jackass at best or even worse as LE you MUST fix your situation!

To do so:

1. RTFF
2. Go somewhere and visit someone
3. Post a report about your experience
4. Go back to step 1 above.

After you have done those steps maybe somone will tell you something but do not expect much before then!

BEFORE YOU ASK - RTFF means READ THE FLIPPIN' FORUM!

JJ





Kyoto Spa in Columbia.

Anyone got any info on this?

http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/best-asian-massage-spa-ktoto-_new/3282496

Sleazebum
05-25-10, 09:23
If you really NEED to unload your stresses several times over a couple hours, here is the answer!

Roger's GB!

Roger usually has two or more girls available to help relieve all your stress in a group environment.

The cost of admission into the facility is usually $80 and what you do once inside is entirely up to you! Almost anything goes! There are no additional charges for anything once you get inside.

Know that you will not be the only man present so if seeing your brothers is a problem perhaps you should pass this one by.

HOWEVER; I have been to a session and it was absolutely great and I encourage all of you to contact Roger and see about the next session! I was so relaxed after the session that I did not get stressed out again for over a week!

Sessions usually run for about 2 hours on Sunday or Wednesday. I do NOT have any more details to offer so do not ask me!

Phone or Text Roger, The Man himself at 301-252-9677 and he will tell you all there is to know.

Of course, after your session be sure to post your experience here. NOTE - the fee charged is for entrance to the facility only! Everything else once you enter is totally free to enjoy. Sit and watch or jump right in the middle of it all! Your choice!

Maybe I will see you there at the next session!

JJ

Guido For Life
05-25-10, 10:38
Last two weeks:

Went to infamous brothel in Fair Lakes. Hit or miss. Same Columbian girls rotate every two weeks early 30's. They see up to 4 guys a day. So depending on what number you are in the rotation will depend on how good your session is. 200 Hour. Received a diet coke when I left.

Went to the Tysons Corner Asian Brothel. I Destroyed two late twenty something Chinese p*ssys. Both were riveting in pain. Very new to Business. THUMBS UP. 350 for two. Both looked mad when I left. Location is hard to get to, as you have to through two security gates to get in and show ID.

Falls Church Korean very big busty skank. Advertises in DC City Paper, her face is a 5. Too methodical. Did allow rabbit ears for 4 minutes. She gets alot blue collar workers, as I saw the next customer arrive after me. Fee: 130 for a half hour. Wouldn't recommend.

A John
05-25-10, 17:08
Nice report, but it is more helpful putting them were they belong.
First two belong here…...
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3958

Next one goes here...
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3960


Last two weeks:
Went to infamous brothel in Fair Lakes. Hit or miss. Same Columbian girls rotate every two weeks early 30's. They see up to 4 guys a day. So depending on what number you are in the rotation will depend on how good your session is. 200 Hour. Received a diet coke when I left.
Went to the Tysons Corner Asian Brothel. I Destroyed two late twenty something Chinese p*ssys. Both were riveting in pain. Very new to Business. THUMBS UP. 350 for two. Both looked mad when I left. Location is hard to get to, as you have to through two security gates to get in and show ID.
Falls Church Korean very big busty skank. Advertises in DC City Paper, her face is a 5. Too methodical. Did allow rabbit ears for 4 minutes. She gets alot blue collar workers, as I saw the next customer arrive after me. Fee: 130 for a half hour. Wouldn't recommend.

Hofi35
05-25-10, 21:52
Kyoto Spa in Columbia.

Anyone got any info on this?

http://dc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/best-asian-massage-spa-ktoto-_new/3282496
Visit the place and I'm sure you get all the answers you need and then you can carefully post those here. Or on MD board.