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Cienega32
01-02-06, 08:15
Just heard at the bar in the El Cortez, the latest rumor, now that Barrick is officially out of the old Gaughan properties downtown, is that the Western will be converted to a smoke-free casino. Don't know if there's anything to it, but I find this notion hilarious.


Just came across an article saying that in March the WESTIN (the old Maxim) will be going smokeless. Perhaps a twist thru the rumor mill?

I still can't see the Western doing it. Like I said earlier - it masks the odors :)

Wastrel
01-03-06, 03:43
Just came across an article saying that in March the WESTIN (the old Maxim) will be going smokeless. Perhaps a twist thru the rumor mill?

I still can't see the Western doing it. Like I said earlier - it masks the odors :)Now that makes sense to me.

Aren't rumors fun? And I'll give this one extra credit becuase it may originally have sort of been based on a misunderstanding of something that might actually become a fact somewhere. Not bad.

Desert Dude
01-03-06, 12:21
Just came across an article saying that in March the WESTIN (the old Maxim) will be going smokeless. Perhaps a twist thru the rumor mill?

I still can't see the Western doing it. Like I said earlier - it masks the odors :)
Ahhhhhhhh..........ya, does make some sense. Was just reading over the past weeks free weekly papers, thinking it was Citylife that has a weekly 'bar' column, which this week went in search of the perfect bourbon on the rocks, and the winner was, ironically, the Westin. Now the Western has turned a bit of a new leaf with the country and western band on Friday and Sat nites competing with the soul and hiphop coming from the satellite jukebox. A great contrast to be sure. Not to start a flamewar here on the topic of homelessness, but it did pull at my heartstrings when a very respectful homeless black guy gave the cashier a handfull of change that totalled exactly $2.50, for his breakfast special. Softy I am, had to slip a buck on his tray and wish him a happy new year with a wink. This was Monday morning, after a what must have been a chilly night sleeping on the rainy streets Sunday...

Cienega32
01-04-06, 03:07
Stardust to close this year to make way for a full 63 acre renovation with 4(?) hotels to pop up on the spread.

This one pulls at my heartstrings being their sports book was the only reason I stayed here this long. Just as well. Since they took over the Coast properties, their numbers have gone to hell.

(cut & paste begins)-

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Boyd Gaming Corp. (BYD) unveiled plans on Wednesday for a $4 billion development in Las Vegas to open in early 2010.

The development, to be named Echelon Place, will be built on a 63-acre site on the Las Vegas Strip, the company said. It will include four hotels featuring 5,300 guest rooms and suites.

The Las Vegas site is currently occupied by the Stardust Hotel and Casino, which the company said it will operate through 2006.

Cienega32
01-09-06, 20:50
Thinking back to the old Holiday south (Boardwalk), I was thinking back to the Holiday Center Strip and came across an old pic (1982) of it. The view is looking over the Gran Prix track at Caesars, which was basically a bunch of "K walls" placed around the parking lot (now called the Forum Shops).

Cienega32
01-09-06, 20:59
Off Koval, behind the Imperial Palace, there used to be car races. Not the kind like they had at Caesars, mind you. These were provided by Mother Nature.

All one had to do was pick a car - any car - and wait to see which one would end up in the intersection first.

This wasn't at the peak of activity - the levels rose to be over the windshields and there are no drivers in the 2nd pic.

Ricksone
01-10-06, 12:45
I know there is a Key Largo Hotel on E. Flamingo, but wasn't there another one that had closed down?

I'd like to find out where it was, so if anyone has any info. I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

R

Cienega32
01-11-06, 11:43
That's the way we do it in Las Vegas.

The old Showboat, which was renamed The Castaways, was imploded this morning into a nice & neat little pile of rubble.

I hit my very first straight flush (King high, of course) in December of 1981 at that joint.

I never did like the fact that they renamed it "The Castaways". It always felt like some kid on the Yankees was wearing number "7". Some things should just be retired out of respect and the "Castaways" name should've been one of them.

But, alas, yet another change to our metamorphic skyline.

ClitCommander
01-11-06, 20:33
Gee Cienega, seems like ur the only one posting on this thread for the past week. Nothing to report except.....*watches tumbleweed blow past*

Wish I knew what time they were imploding the Castaways. Would have woke up just to see that.

Cienega32
01-12-06, 09:34
The only Key Largo I know of is the one that was at Paradise & Flamingo that closed last year. It used to be called the Ambassador back in the day.

Cienega32
01-12-06, 09:48
Gee Cienega, seems like ur the only one posting on this thread for the past week. Nothing to report except.....*watches tumbleweed blow past*

Wish I knew what time they were imploding the Castaways. Would have woke up just to see that.
I had cruised down The Rock the other nite and it looked like they were setting up for implosion, with the "Street Closed on..." signs. I was going to post it but didn't have time. Next thing I know I wake up, turn on the news and there all standing around talking about the implosion. I wanted to watch it myself. I swear I think I felt/heard it way over here on the west side of the valley. Maybe it was a dream.


I've been slowly packing up things and I keep coming across old stuff that vaults me down Memory Lane and then they implode the old SHowboat which has the same effect. It's just one big sad process for me, after living here for so long. knowing that I'm leaving. I sit upstairs at my desk and can see the south end of the strip, 10 miles away and it saddens me. Don't know why as the move is strictly by choice but it's been a great ride for 25 years.

If Harrah's buys the Imperial Palace, like I've heard some time ago, it really will be the end of an era for me. I remember the property line wars between those two years ago. Which is why they built add-ons so close to each other - you kill my view/I kill your view, etc.

And speaking of tumbleweed, does anyone remember when - ... aw, nevermind :(


Just to revive a link that I know someone (probably our beloved Wastrel) posted a while back:

http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/gambling/casino_death_watch.html

A nice text overview of progress in Las Vegas.

Wastrel
01-13-06, 03:17
Those who missed the event can catch the pictures of it at:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jan-12-Thu-2006/news/5303102.html

Or see video of it from several viewpoints at:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4344457
The "Crackdale" SW & tweaker apartments are behind the tower in the background of what is described as the "helicopter view" (third in the series on the clip) in this TV station coverage.

The dust cloud lasted for hours, so some Boulder/Fremont pedestrians are looking more filthy than usual right about now. The sound of two-hundred thousand car alarms going off in the morning has fortunately subsided.

Wastrel
01-18-06, 09:40
Nice little funny/sad piece in the RJ:

JANE ANN MORRISON: One person's Stardust memories only skim surface of decades gone by

The weeping and wailing over the recent closing of the Boardwalk seemed a bit excessive. The implosion of the Castaways (aka the Showboat) didn't call for any gnashing of teeth and tearing of garments.

But the loss of the Stardust is a piece of history that I hate to see go...

<SNIP>

One of my favorite Stardust skimming memories was the time the FBI had been watching two men they thought were couriers exchanging the money skimmed from the hotel. Month after month outside a grocery store, a package is exchanged. Somehow, the one time the FBI obtains a warrant and moves in to seize the package supposedly containing thousands of dollars, the package contained: just cookies.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jan-16-Mon-2006/news/5372667.html

Cienega32
01-22-06, 14:29
"Flag Luxury Riv LLC, Rivacq LLC and
High Desert Gaming LLC, disclosed a
joint bidding agreement to acquire the
Riviera. No plans for the hotel or
for the valuable adjoining real estate
were announced."

Wastrel
01-23-06, 23:36
This is from Steve Miller, a guy who runs an online news site tracking 'connections' (to put it mildly) between the mob and the Las Vegas political establishment, law enforcement, and judicial officials. With that little hobby he's a busy man. He's also a former Las Vegas City Councilman. He posted this yesterday, but the local press did not:

Crazy Horse bouncer reported dead

Maurice "Mo" McKenna

A reliable source reports that long time Crazy Horse Too topless bar bouncer Maurice "Mo" McKenna has died.

McKenna, 45, was expected to be a witness in the upcoming OPERATION CRAZY HORSE racketeering trial.

The 300-pound, 6' 1" bouncer was named in an Incident Report but not taken into custody on May 30, 2002, for the alleged beating of Scottsdale, Arizona tourist Michael Silverman. This was not the first time McKenna was accused of beating Crazy Horse Too patrons.

McKenna was also identified as the bouncer who allegedly assaulted Glendale, California tourist Chris Johnson on Monday, October 21, 2002. Johnson in a police report stated that a Crazy Horse bouncer pushed him into the street where he fell twisting his ankle. Johnson said the man who pushed him weighed over 300 pounds and matched McKenna's description.

Since his election in 2003, current Clark County District Attorney David Roger has refused to prosecute any employee of the Crazy Horse Too.

On August 4, 1995, California trucker Scott David Fau was found beaten to death next to railroad tracks behind the Crazy Horse Too. A witness reported seeing Fau being severely beaten by Crazy Horse employees in the parking lot after he was ejected from the bar. According to the witness, one of the men who was reportedly observed kicking Fau in the head was named "Mo."

In a taped statement, the witness described two men who he said worked as bouncers at the club. "Yeah, they're the ones that beat up this Hawaiian guy out there that was just - the poor guy wasn't even moving, and they were kicking him, and um, at that point that's all. They were just kicking him around, jumping on him, stomping on his arm. They stomped his leg. Kicked him in the stomach. They kept - Mo was kicking him in the head, and you just watched his head wiggle around."

Former District Attorney Stu Bell refused to prosecute anyone in the Fau case, so on January 16, 2003, eight years after her husband's death and after several dismissals of her case, Scott Fau's widow Camille sued the Crazy Horse in Clark County District Court. When the purported eyewitness did not appear in court, Judge Nancy M. Saitta refused to allow his taped testimony to be heard by the jury. Subsequently, Fau lost her case.

Now, a young man who would have been a key witness for federal prosecutors is reportedly dead.

[END QUOTE]

P.S. For those who aren't aware of it, the official "owner" of the joint, Rick Rizzolo, is the Mayor's buddy, and his unofficial boss, Joey "The Clown" Lombardo, head of the Chicago mob who's currently under indictment for 18 murders, is a longtime indirect business associate of Hizzoner, making him rich through his clients. I wouldn't care to run up a big bar tab in this place, and wouldn't expect a very thorough local police investigation if it ended badly.

PsyberZombie
01-24-06, 07:32
Crazy Horse bouncer reported dead

Maurice "Mo" McKenna

A reliable source reports that long time Crazy Horse Too topless bar bouncer Maurice "Mo" McKenna has died.

McKenna, 45, was expected to be a witness in the upcoming OPERATION CRAZY HORSE racketeering trial.

The 300-pound, 6' 1" bouncer was named in an Incident Report but not taken into custody on May 30, 2002, for the alleged beating of Scottsdale, Arizona tourist Michael Silverman. This was not the first time McKenna was accused of beating Crazy Horse Too patrons.

McKenna was also identified as the bouncer who allegedly assaulted Glendale, California tourist Chris Johnson on Monday, October 21, 2002. Johnson in a police report stated that a Crazy Horse bouncer pushed him into the street where he fell twisting his ankle. Johnson said the man who pushed him weighed over 300 pounds and matched McKenna's description.



The obvious implication here is that 'Mo' got 'whacked' by the Mob before he could 'sing'

.... and that's exactly what yet another CH·2 patron who got assaulted by Mo and who then gathered up a few of his buds and a fire·arm and ambushed Mo and got permanent Revenge , *wants* you to think

A word of Advice to all 6'1" 300 lb bouncers who get their jollies beating up customers =

" God didn't create All Men Equal..... Smith & Wesson did "

Ricksone
01-24-06, 13:19
All this about Crazy Horse is simply the reason I have never gone there. If you want a strip club experience, there are lots of clubs without taking the risk that can come with this club.

R

Wastrel
01-25-06, 05:57
From the Las Vegas Business Press:

Harrah's Entertainment has put radio frequency tracking tags on its cocktail waitresses at the Rio All-Suites Hotel & Casino in what it calls an effort to improve customer service. However, the gaming giant's use of the technology on its employees is raising some questions.

In what it refers to as a "pilot program," the casino is using the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags, which send out signals that are tracked through readers installed at various locations. Harrah's has placed the readers on tables and bars in the beverage and gaming areas to determine how long it takes cocktail waitresses to serve customers, Harrah's Entertainment Chief Information Officer Tim Stanley said. "It just looks at the cycle time between service," he explained.

"We are taking some of that technology and attaching it to the beverage servers on the casino floor," Stanley added...

Complete article at: http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/articles/2006/01/09/news/news01.txt

I wonder if proximity to a mass of silicone would tend to interfere with the RF transmissions?

PsyberZombie
01-29-06, 10:02
From the Las Vegas Business Press:

Harrah's Entertainment has put radio frequency tracking tags on its cocktail waitresses at the Rio All-Suites Hotel & Casino in what it calls an effort to improve customer service.... In what it refers to as a "pilot program," the casino is using the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags, which send out signals that are tracked through readers installed at various locations.

Heck , they're already starting to use these RFID gadgets on fricken Casino Chips

See = http://*******.com/c8r2a

This actually isn't a completely bad thing , be·cause my game is dice and now there'll be no more guess·work in figuring out my rating since the chip·reader will keep track of every single bet and win / loss

OTOH , I'll now have to remember to only pay my Week·End Warrior with *cash*

Vanderley
02-01-06, 01:30
Hooters Casino & Hotel opens this week. I don't know how I feel about this whole venture. It'll be interesting. I wonder if any CG's will feel comfortable working in the midst of all the hooters girls flaunting around. I don't think I remember ever seeing any CG's at San Remo. I may be wrong. Tons of working girls at the Motel6 next door though.

Interesting to note that they decided to name it Hooters Casino & Hotel, rather than Hooters Hotel & Casino. The latter may give some questionable implications.

Jazzngolf
02-01-06, 03:05
Just traveled to LV today and read the post. Where is the Hooters Casino located?

PsyberZombie
02-01-06, 09:49
Hooters Casino & Hotel opens this week....

What·ever you do , do NOT ask the cock·tail waitress there for = " A large coke in a size 'D' cup "

You might get a Bust in the mouth !!

Zippy2853
02-01-06, 18:07
Hooters is now the old San Remo. Its down the block from the MGM and NYNY. I have to agree, dont know if the "working girls" would want to compete with the "working girls".

I am sure the HCH Management is strict with the worker/customer relationships.

Looking forward to the reports.

IndyDave
02-01-06, 20:17
Just traveled to LV today and read the post. Where is the Hooters Casino located?


It's the old San Remo, isn't it?

Cienega32
02-02-06, 00:46
It's the old San Remo, isn't it?

Correct - also known as the old Treasury.

Cienega32
02-02-06, 22:29
At this moment I'm on the verge of breaking down "Cienega32 Central" - the nerve center of my existance. My computers are on the floor and their respective boxes are crying out to them. Pretty much the last thing to be loaded, other than a clean pair of shorts.

I'm a shortie, as we speak and Monday will have my day-to-day in a new Zipper - an 88012 zipper - virtually moments away from the Ciudad of Juarez.

Good Lord! I might have to revert to dial-up and dig out my old 300 baud modem - there's no cable on my block yet!

At any rate - it's been a pleasure sharing the boards on a native level with all of you fine, fellow mongers. I'll still be here but not on a "rolling" basis.

Play safe, brothers!

USTraveller
02-10-06, 22:10
Sorry to see ya go as you've been a wealth of info over the years.

I've been AWOL for a while due to various reasons and hope to contribute again shortly. I just finished booking my next trip and unsuccessfully tried to get a room at the Hooter's casino just to see what room service would be like. I just hope they don't serve Hooter's food at that place.

-USTraveller

Cienega32
02-11-06, 12:29
Sorry to see ya go as you've been a wealth of info over the years.

I've been AWOL for a while due to various reasons and hope to contribute again shortly. I just finished booking my next trip and unsuccessfully tried to get a room at the Hooter's casino just to see what room service would be like. I just hope they don't serve Hooter's food at that place.

-USTraveller
There must be some hidden agenda in my world as I've seemed to have arranged the move to consists of two 17' truck trips [complete], one more to retrieve the car [this weekend] and yet another to empty out my storage space.

Most people would've done it with one big truck and a car trailer and be done with it...

My timing is a bit off as it seems that the heavy coat wrappers are starting to be left in the closets. But at least now I can be a tourist with a rentacar and hit the strip ;).

I thought I noticed a void in regard to posts from you, USTraveller - glad to see you back!

Bamadawg
02-13-06, 00:25
Got a great deal from the Vegas Club (two free nights) that I could not pass up and everything else lined so I'm going to be in town Feb 27 - March 1. Does anyone have reccomendations on where DT would be the best place to spend Madri Gras evening exchanging beads for bare skin poses for my camera and maybe even find a wayward college student to bring back to my hotel room for some excess before lent sets in the next day.

Speck
02-13-06, 10:00
If you are talking about working girls, forget about it. You might find something wayward, but most likely not. I've never had luck except to pick up something in my car on Fremont/Boulder Hwy and take her back to my room. Also, I note that you are staying weekdays, so your chances of finding a early 20's cutie are significantly diminshed as most of these types come in on the weekend. What you will find some of is either lonley local milfs, off duty single mom dealers, and also the occasional early 40's I just got a divorce and want to come to Vegas but weekends are too expensive types.


Got a great deal from the Vegas Club (two free nights) that I could not pass up and everything else lined so I'm going to be in town Feb 27 - March 1. Does anyone have reccomendations on where DT would be the best place to spend Madri Gras evening exchanging beads for bare skin poses for my camera and maybe even find a wayward college student to bring back to my hotel room for some excess before lent sets in the next day.

Muggs
02-13-06, 10:28
Of this happening in Vegas. I bet 2 to 1!!!!


**********************************************************
Now this sounds like one helluva employment opportunity.

Spotsylvania Deputies Receive Sex Services in Prostitution Cases

By Tom Jackman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 13, 2006; Page B01

They enter the massage parlors as undercover detectives. They leave as satisfied customers.

In Spotsylvania County, as part of a campaign by the sheriff's office to root out prostitution in the massage parlor business, detectives have been receiving sexual services from "masseuses." During several visits to Moon Spa on Plank Road last month, detectives allowed women to perform sexual acts on them on four occasions and once left a $350 tip, according to court papers.


Spotsylvania Sheriff Howard D. Smith said that the practice is not new and that only unmarried detectives are assigned to such cases. Most prostitutes are careful not to say anything incriminating, so sexual contact is necessary, he said.

"If I thought we could get the conviction without that, we wouldn't allow it," Smith said. "If you want to make them, this has to be done."

But numerous police and legal experts said they were not aware of any law enforcement agency in the Washington region, or the country, that allows sexual contact in prostitution investigations. Police should not break the law to enforce it, they said.

"It's insane," said Charles J. Key Sr., a retired Baltimore police lieutenant who trains police officers and federal agents across the country. "If you allow officers to go through with the act, they've violated the law. You don't get an exception for participating in a violation of law."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6021200943.html

Norman Stormin
02-13-06, 12:28
Las Vegas Club is in CG central. You are a block from the Greyhound Bus station. Two blocks from the city bus station. Three blocks from one of the most active CG locations called the Gold Spike aka home of the dollar Tecate beer. (By the way, CG to most posters means Club Girls, in Las Vegas it means Casino Girls, but to me it means Crack Girls).

Nine blocks down Fremont you will find the Western aka the Sistern and also home of the dollar Tecate beer. The "Stern", as we regulars fondly call it, has become the refuge of half the CG's in the downtown area since the closure of competing facilities. If you can't score here, you might as well go back to Bama.

The accepted service rate for BBBJCIM is $20. I usually tip them a Tecate beer of their choice if they swallow. This is an accepted anti spermicide and cleans the sticky residue from the palate. Full service is $40. Please DO NOT overpay. These are long time established rates. If you pay any more, they will treat you as a tourist dawg from Bama, give you substandard service, and possibly have their drug dealing pimp roll you.

P.S. The bead thing is right across Fremont from your hotel. See ya at the Stern.

Norman Stormin
02-13-06, 13:19
At this moment I'm on the verge of breaking down "Cienega32 Central" - the nerve center of my existance.

Play safe, brothers!

Since I have about 5 years time in service on you, and since you're leaving the area, I hereby respectfully request permission to borrow your phrase : "I remember when"?

Your friend in 89109 Hell,

Suarte !

ZeoPro
02-13-06, 19:59
Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the current Marijuana laws are like in Las Vegas? If someone was looking for something along those lines in Las Vegas where would a good place be to find a connection? Just curious. I used to live there years ago and possession was a felony. I thought I read somewhere it is not anymore but I wasn't sure.

Speck
02-13-06, 22:59
Ugh......be warned, Normin Stormin's advice is not for the faint of heart. With the Western, we are talking maybe the worst casino in Vegas. And the walk there ain't pretty. I wouldn't recommend anyone walk there by themselves after nightfall.

Lets put it this way....most of the bars at the downtown Vegas casinos are too shady for most people used to the strip. Gold Spike pushes the boundaries, and Western is several steps below that. Also, the quality of girl is likely to be very bad. I suggest you read the write ups on these places at cheapo vegas before you venture down.


Las Vegas Club is in CG central. You are a block from the Greyhound Bus station. Two blocks from the city bus station. Three blocks from one of the most active CG locations called the Gold Spike aka home of the dollar Tecate beer. (By the way, CG to most posters means Club Girls, in Las Vegas it means Casino Girls, but to me it means Crack Girls).

Nine blocks down Fremont you will find the Western aka the Sistern and also home of the dollar Tecate beer. The "Stern", as we regulars fondly call it, has become the refuge of half the CG's in the downtown area since the closure of competing facilities. If you can't score here, you might as well go back to Bama.

The accepted service rate for BBBJCIM is $20. I usually tip them a Tecate beer of their choice if they swallow. This is an accepted anti spermicide and cleans the sticky residue from the palate. Full service is $40. Please DO NOT overpay. These are long time established rates. If you pay any more, they will treat you as a tourist dawg from Bama, give you substandard service, and possibly have their drug dealing pimp roll you.

P.S. The bead thing is right across Fremont from your hotel. See ya at the Stern.

Norman Stormin
02-14-06, 11:34
I feel so safe downtown I used to drop off my eighty year old mother for the midnight bingo session at the Stern.

Fremont Street is more heavily protected than the White House. Bike cops, foot patrols, motorized dirt bike cops, horse mounted cops, undercover vice and narco cops, not to mention the two squads of black and whites accompanied by two paddy wagons always in the hood.

Then there's the street survelance system Jackie Gaughn installed years ago which covers every square inch of downtown from Main to 10th Streets and Ogden to Carson.

And let us not forget Oscar's cleanup campaign which started about two years ago. I'd venture to say that about 80% of what Hiz Honor calls cock-a-roaches are gone.

Wadahya think about a new thread for the "BRAVE HEARTS"?

DOWNTOWN / The Real Las Vegas
The Other Las Vegas
The Sleazy Las Vegas
For The Not So Faint Of Heart

Cienega32
02-19-06, 20:36
... you could stand in the doorway of the 'Stern and be called across the street by "pretty" SW'ers. To the back of the building, by a dumpster, for a nice stand-up BBBJ and plow from behind for $25 and no worries.

Norman - I only request that I can retain my usage rights of "IRW" and that such usage, on my part, will be at random and, of course, will apply to 89109 as well as to any other areas that currently do or do not exist. Other than that - use at will!

Cienega32
02-19-06, 20:52
Wanting to try a few joints out on my way out:

Holiday Express on Industrial Rd: Overpriced. Interior room access. I usually stay at X's on the road and this place doesn't come close to anything I would suggest. No fridge/micro. Wireless Internet that was non-existant in my room. $125 the nite I was there and the clerk tried to explain it, with my local ID in his hand, as if I was tourist - "It all depends what events we have in town". No shit? What convention are you hosting, the empty parking space show?

Motel 6 on Industrial Rd: Pure dump. Noisy as hell and not a SW out front to found the 2 nites I was there. I could drive that road at any time and see at least 3. I stay there ($50/nite) and nada. Toilet plugged easily, upstairs feets were louder than in an old house with kids.

Town & Country III way down on The Rock - past Nevada Palace. $69 a nite and this place was great. Outside room access. Not for action (could be a "bring to") but to stay. Full kitchen studio and was nice and quiet. I'll stay there again w/out hesitation. If you smoke, bring an ash-tray. Fortunately, I had one from home in my trunk - why, I don't know. Dial-up Internet access thru a phone port. Front desk closes at 8pm.

All three took a copy of my local license.

USTraveller
02-21-06, 00:58
I used to stay at the Extended Stay on Valley View (Across from the Rio/Gold Coast) when I came to town. The prices went from $36 to $45 to $60 a night over my past 3 stays. It was worth it for $36 but not for $60. Recent reviews say that the front desk warned them about working girls working there, so it could be a place to stay if your looking for close action.

I'm looking for a new "extended stay" place and may check out the Town and Country places. I already booked my rooms for my next trip so I'm already good. I've also considered Emerald Suites in the past, but never pulled the trigger on trying it.

I don't get the reason why Holiday Inn Expresses are so darn expensive in this town. I could stay at a nice place for $125 a night.

-USTraveller

USTraveller
02-21-06, 01:05
Cienega32 brought up a good point about internet. Are there any good places to take my laptop to get free WiFi or cheap internet? Last time, I used dial-up from my room which was a drag.

Thanks,
-USTraveller

Speck
02-21-06, 01:08
Since there are probably TONS of out of towners reading this board, let me add that the best places to stay for tourists and get decent cg action($200-$1000 range, not street girls) are Bellagio, Ballys, Aladdin, Barbary Coast, FLAMINGO, IP, Harrahs, and Mirage, & Ceasars Palace. The reason is that there is always something going on at one of these places, or on the streets. All are right next to each other, and it takes 10 minutes to walk from one end to the other. Flamingo is highlighted because there are always ho's there and usually can be bargained to the low end of the scale. Bellagio is #1 in terms of both numbers and quality, but usually very pricey. This past Saturday night I saw over 20 cg's at Bellagio at about 3am. At least 5 of those rated 8 or 9 and all the rest rated 7's.


I used to stay at the Extended Stay on Valley View (Across from the Rio/Gold Coast) when I came to town. The prices went from $36 to $45 to $60 a night over my past 3 stays. It was worth it for $36 but not for $60. Recent reviews say that the front desk warned them about working girls working there, so it could be a place to stay if your looking for close action.

I'm looking for a new "extended stay" place and may check out the Town and Country places. I already booked my rooms for my next trip so I'm already good. I've also considered Emerald Suites in the past, but never pulled the trigger on trying it.

I don't get the reason why Holiday Inn Expresses are so darn expensive in this town. I could stay at a nice place for $125 a night.

-USTraveller

Boatload
02-22-06, 03:12
I found a great site just the other day. Try www.jiwire.com. Its lists both pay and free wifi sites in any city you enter. Las Vegas has 10 free sites listed. I plan to use it to check craigslist when I am in Vegas next month.
Boatload

USTraveller
02-23-06, 03:10
www.jiwire.comThanks, Boatload. It looks like I'll be doing a tour of Krispy Kremes in the area. I may have to use this site for other cities as well.

Now if only these WiFi spots were frequented by working gals... I guess that's asking too much.

Thanks again,
-USTraveller

Wastrel
02-25-06, 21:56
Quoted from Las Vegas Casino Death Watch: "The Las Vegas Business Press reports that Tamares will demolish three downtown properties! Now that we've hyped this, we'll mention that they're talking about the Hotel Nevada, Queen of Hearts, and the Ambassador East, so nobody with all their original teeth will be affected. Get this, the article mentions that removing these buildings is expected to increase the value of the land for resale. Gotta like that. The article also mentions that rumors that the Gold Spike and Western will be demolished have been denied. The Death Watch speculates that Tamares trusts that those buildings will fall over without mechanical assistance."

[P.S. I'm still sulking (snivel, whine) over the archiving, locking, and renaming of my original thread. Is this really better than "Food, Golf, Politics, Whackings, Implosions..." Now it's nearly as scintillating as the ever popular General Reports in Other Areas on Micellaneous Matters by Member #8457 in Nonspecific Forums of a Bland and Empty but Orderly Nature. A couple years of therapy and I'll probably get over it. At least "Clip-joints" survived, probably through an oversight.]

JPF
02-26-06, 12:41
Wastrel, I'm with you on the name change. I loved the "uniqueness" (whackyness?) of the previous thread heading. The headings should reflect the city or region and you captured the Vegas essence with that one.

Jolynx
02-27-06, 19:54
The Honorable Norman and myself spent a lovely sunday strolling in the sun , sipping cocktails and exchanging pleasantries with some of the natives.

After a lovely breakfast including bloody mays and L.I. iced teas, we proceeded to the Stern to exchange pleasantries with the mixologists. We then strolled to the Gold Spike and made the acquaintance of lovely Dee who offered haircuts and other personal services at reduced rates. We enjoyed $1 tecates and complimentary fresh limes. Also present was a sweet young woman named Tazz , a former habitue of the long lost UKE lounge.

After raising many bumpers and toasts, and obtaining appropriate communications codes, We then drove down Boulder Highway and saw many a target rich environment. We were parched from the long Recon so stopped at the Stadium saloon for more refreshments. At this point things were getting fuzzy but the good Norman maintained admirable sobriety as we returned to LV and visited the home of the Sons of Temperance aka the Huntridge. The liquor flowed like buttermilk and alas that was my last memory.

The point of this is that despite the shit like beauty bar, bunkhouse and the sissy joints on third street , the Old Vegas is still doable, is not dangerous (if you got your concealed weapon) and still a lot of fun. If the downtown is TOO dangerous, fools deserve to spend as much as the ****** can get from them on the strip. Dont worry mom is safe on Fleamont and charges less than her cocaine head daughters.

JPF
02-28-06, 17:36
This one reads like something from a Tarantino movie:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Feb-28-Tue-2006/news/6111505.html

A man, living with a working prostitute is killed for $3,500 by the crazy boyfriend of her prostitute friend.

Includes a charge of "attempted sexual assault with use of a deadly weapon", the weapon being the handle of a hair brush.

Norman Stormin
03-02-06, 12:13
You may or may not recall, as you were on your 4th Long Island iced tea when you switched to Tecate at the Spike, that I made an appointment with Dee for a "haircut" on Monday. This was a judicious decision as I was already two thirds in the bag. She was to call at 1 pm to make the meeting arrangements. Suprise, suprise. No call. Just as well because I was not in tip top condition on Monday.

Tuesday afternoon I decided to hunt her down like a dog in heat. 4pm the Spike was filled like a horn of plenty. Remember, it's the end of the month. The line up was too long to mention and I was a hero handing out dollar Tecates to all my old aquaintances. Dee quickly found me and appologized profusely for not calling. She told me Tazz was missing in action. Seems she was advanced $$ for some type of commodity transaction and has not since been seen. Word is she has a price on her head.

I told Dee I had a Jackson for her but admonished her of my high expectations. If she performed well and swallowed every drop, I might become a regular customer. At the very least, I would greet her with a dollar Tecate every time I saw her. She reassured me she was a pro by relating a story of her first "date". Outside the front gate of Camp Pendelton at the ripe age of 13, a john picked her up in his brand new Lincoln Mark IV. When he came, she gagged and puked all over his new interior. He not only refused to pay but also made her clean it up. She thereafter quickly learned how to swallow.

Dee has quite a history moving to Las Vegas at the age of 18. When not working the casinos, she hung at the Plush Horse. Locals will understand this dates her to the days before they refined coke into crack. During our pre felacial cocktail hour, she also introduced me to the GM. She used to date him when he was a casino manager on the strip. Seems like he has also fallen on hard times.

We did the deed in a secure, undisclosed location. Dee performed well above expectations. I am often disappointed with many of my first encounters. Dee was very careful to please. She asked if I liked it fast or slow, hard or soft. I opted for a soft and slow start, working up to a hard and fast crescendo, finishing with a long slow swallowing action. She performed as instructed. I will repeat.

For any of you visitors who want a taste of the old Las Vegas, replete with has been hookers, don't be afraid to try Downtown. The best are the "Spike", where I met Dee, and the "Stern", where I dropped her off.

As this is the "Off Topic" thread, I must add something relavant. I was detoured on my way to the "Stern" yesterday afternoon as there was a stiff on the corner of 11th and Ogden. Lieutenant Monahan and his boys had the area cordoned off.

Cienega32
03-03-06, 21:30
[P.S. I'm still sulking (snivel, whine) over the archiving, locking, and renaming of my original thread. Is this really better than "Food, Golf, Politics, Whackings, Implosions..." Now it's nearly as scintillating as the ever popular General Reports in Other Areas on Micellaneous Matters by Member #8457 in Nonspecific Forums of a Bland and Empty but Orderly Nature. A couple years of therapy and I'll probably get over it. At least "Clip-joints" survived, probably through an oversight.]

I agree. The original header had that good ole Vegas pizazz to it and consisted of those things that are important in Vegas life & history.

Sulk on, Brother - you have a right to it.

Vanderley
03-05-06, 04:36
For any of you visitors who want a taste of the old Las Vegas, replete with has been hookers, don't be afraid to try Downtown. The best are the "Spike", where I met Dee, and the "Stern", where I dropped her off.
Norman:

How could you come home refreshed from the paradise of South America and find yourself capable of being aroused by anything downtown Las Vegas? Please don't get me wrong, no offense implied here whatsoever -- your reports are always fantastic and a true classic, a real veteran -- but it would take me AT LEAST six months for me to get desperate enough to resort to downtown Las Vegas after draining yourself fucking a hundred exotic beauties on a trip to Brazil (averaging three a day - $30 a pop). I've dropped by the 'Stern' and the Spike on a few occasions, and as desperate as I am these days still find nothing worthwhile. Are there even any providers under 40 that actually brushed her teeth in the morning, ever? What time of day is the best to go?

Norman Stormin
03-05-06, 11:00
My parents were married during the depression. I was born after World War II. My father retrieved my first bycicle from the city dump and painstakingly supervised its rehab into a brand new Schwinn knockout. My first car was a junk yard VW two year garage project under my father's tutledge. I was raised to appreciate and make do with what was available. The ability to adjust to and CONTROL one's enviornment is what seperates man from beast.

Unlike my peers, I never got caught up in material excesses. Although easily affordable, what I wear, drive, or fuck does not have to be top of the line, just functional. (A port in any storm?) A $15 golf shirt from Walmart serves the same purpose as a $150 pollo shirt from Ralph Loren. A $20 BBBJCIM from a Fleamont crack ho actually feels better than a $300 covered BJ from a Bellagio Barbie Doll. The former actually try to please and often really enjoy their work. My last one even complimented me how pretty my dick was! Just lay back, close your eyes, and imagine this is a hot 18 year old off the beach in Rio.

You are right about the hundreds of thousands of eager beautiful providers in South America. You have a very wide selection of price and quality. Top of the line 18 to 20 year old beauties go for $50 an hour with the price dropping converesly to age until you hit the $10 an hour 40 year olds. After many years of applied clinical research, I have concluded that the highest priced do not deliver the best service. Just the opposit. The lowest priced always provide the best service. It has to do with attitude. The beauties think their shit doesn't stink. The beasts are grateful to be fucked. In that enviornment, I have found my comfort zone to be the 20 to 30 year olds in the 6 to 7 looks and $20 to $30 price ranges.

You are right about draining oneself also. I experienced this problem a year ago when I went on a four month binge. I was determined to try a new house and fuck a new girl every day (120 days). My pace for my age was unsustainable. After only two weeks I had to reduce my goal to a new one every other day. Still, when I returned home four months later, I was completely fucked out. This was a psycolgical delima much like the kid in the candy store syndrome. It took a month to recover. It didn't matter how attractive, I simply had no desire.

Sperm Management is the answer. I changed my pace to three times a week; Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and zeroed in on my favorite houses and favorite girls. Monday and Friday were regular days and Wednesday was Adventure Day when I would seek out something dangerous and exciting. This pace gave my testosterone levels sufficient time to recover and Adventure Day psycologically gave me something to look forward to. Thanks to the successful application of Sperm Management, I came home refreshed looking forward to my Adventure Days on Fleamont Street and the B/H.

I practice a similar Sperm Management program in Las Vegas. One day a week I have a non pro girlfriend, one day a week I have a regular private p4p (the best in the city but not available for public consumption), leaving me lots of Adventure Days to find and consort with Fleamont Crack Girls and Boulder Speed Queens. And lest we not forget a few serious drinking days.

My dear Vanderley, whilst you are still young, dumb, and full of cum, Sperm Management is what you have to look forward to. Baring none, the last days of the month are the most fruitfull. I'd be happy to meet you at the Spike for a dollar Tecate and an indepth introduction to sleaze mongering at its finest. Just close your eyes and imagine we're at a bar on Ipanima.

Cienega32
03-05-06, 16:33
Excellent post! Not only do we share many aspects of the Timeline of Life, we share a basic philosophy on "getting it done".

I have printed out your post and have inserted it as "Part 10: Man's Basic Pursuits" in my copy of Nietzsche's "Beyond Good And Evil".

np2112
03-05-06, 20:02
That was a helluva report. I agree, and I share the same sentiments, being the hourly wage putz that I am. I'd like to think I'd retain that philosophy you so eloquently espoused even were I to win the lotto.

That post elevates you to Wastrel status, to me.

USTraveller
03-06-06, 02:59
Norman,

Great post as always. It echos my philosophy of "there's no such thing as a bad blow job", only much more eloquantly. Keep the sleaze wisdom comin'!

I guess I need to add to that philosophy "there is such a thing as too many blow jobs!" Sadly, I never realized this until now. That would have been a good one to learn on my own... oh well!

Welcome back from South America!

-USTraveller

Wastrel
03-06-06, 04:52
That post elevates you to Wastrel status...Nah, his altitude hasn't changed. He was a wastrel before me.

Wastrel
03-11-06, 05:02
To make C.32 homesick (look at the 'Dust and cry yourself to sleep pal) here are some photos of Old Vegas stuff: http://www.whenthemobranvegas.com/slideshow.html

And this is eccentric, maybe even downright weird to make a website about it, but I like it, and I'm allowed to do this about every 100 posts or so (says so in the fine print of the forum rules): http://www.dieiscast.com/gallerycarpet.html

Norman Stormin
03-11-06, 12:20
That slide show really brought back memories. To coin a C32 phrase: "I remember when" you could park right in front of the casino entrance at the D.I., Sands, Slipper, Dunes, or Riv and get a $20 blow job. Now I have to park across the steet from the Stern for the same service. Those were the days when valet parking was only for the high rollers who could afford not to walk twenty feet.

By the way, I haven't been able to post for the last few days as all those kudos brought tears to my eyes which shorted out my keyboard. Thanks guys! It's great to be back in the saddle again.

Ricksone
03-11-06, 12:46
A great slide show! I want some of those cars.

R

Jolynx
03-11-06, 15:38
I so agree with Normy. Thank You for the old Vegas pictures from the late 1950s to maybe the mid 1980's. To see the Sahara, Landmark, Palace, Dunes and other fine establishments makes me yearn to go find Tony the ant and bury him alive after a good beating.

The first chick by the station wagon is still working at 5th and San Francisco when she escapes the rest home.

Perhaps We should form a Las Vegas Historical Society and work at getting get plaques and statues made for Bugsy, Mo Dalitz, Tony, Lefty and other Vegas founding fathers. A yearly mob dinner with tuxedos , molls and icepicks as well as .38s with stock wrapped in black electricians tape.

Lulu Pussy
03-11-06, 22:49
I found a great site just the other day. Try www.jiwire.com. Its lists both pay and free wifi sites in any city you enter. Las Vegas has 10 free sites listed. I plan to use it to check craigslist when I am in Vegas next month.
BoatloadWhen I stayed at the CC several months ago, was able to get free wifi.

During a later stay somewhere, I found that I could just pull into the parking area of CC and log right in. Handy cuz its right on the Strip.

Lulu Pussy
03-11-06, 23:04
For those of you who wanted a bit of a diversion/warmup, I've been to the Red Rooster swing club a couple times.

It's way down off Trop, info at vegasredrooster. Single guys are always allowed.

First time there, I wond up nailing this really BBW in front of a crowd of admiring onlookers. I think the later was more fun that the former. That was on a Fri or Sat night

I had a stop for a Tuesday night there once and the place was pretty dead. Couple of way ugs and one chunky chick who was a swing and a miss for me.

Anyway, just a bit of offtopic fun.

PsyberZombie
03-13-06, 09:15
A great slide show! I want some of those cars.



Check out the Auto Collections ('http://www.imperialpalace.com/autos.php') at the Imperial Palace

ALL of the vehicles there are for sale , so bring your Credit Card !!

Wastrel
03-15-06, 13:57
Palomino strip club sold to pay off legal fees
Owner named co-conspirator in murder case in which son is one of four defendants

Luis Hidalgo Jr., who is named as co-conspirator but not a defendant in a contract murder case, is selling the Palomino Club, a nude dancing club that traces its history back more than 35 years in North Las Vegas...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Mar-15-Wed-2006/business/6368406.html

Cienega32
03-15-06, 18:14
I wonder if the City will make a push to undo the grandfathered clause of alcohol and nudity during the process. A modernized version of compliance, if you will.

Wastrel
03-25-06, 16:08
State looking into Briton's missing organs

A British tourist, Boorman, 29, died last summer in Las Vegas because of a drug overdose. When his body was shipped back to England, officials found that Boorman had no internal organs.

The Nevada Funeral Board looked into the allegations that the funeral home, Nevada Funeral Services, lost Boorman's organs...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-other/2006/mar/24/566685266.html

KC Questor
03-28-06, 15:39
Hey guys, this is definitely off-topic, but I was hoping someone could make a suggestion for me. A club I belong to is planning on a get together in Vegas next month. It is a very informal gathering -- not like a convention or anything. Members are making their own reservations, mostly around the Hilton, Sahara, Stratosphere area, but some as far away as Fremont Street.

I was hoping that someone might have a suggestion for a good place to meet up the first night (a Friday between maybe 8 and midnight). Since we are all arriving at different times, we were just hoping for a club or restaurant where we could reserve a room and people could arrive as they got into town or were ready. The place should have food and drinks, and the music shouldn't be overpowering. It doesn't have to be a private room, but we'd rather not have to pull together 5 tables with barstools.

There will be 15-20 of us, and we can pay for the room if needed but would prefer someplace that can comp it in exchange for the drinks and food. Any suggestions or leads?

I'll definitely be taking advantage of my time there to do some mongering, and will be happy to report when I get back.

PsyberZombie
03-28-06, 17:42
Hey guys, this is definitely off-topic, but I was hoping someone could make a suggestion for me. A club I belong to is planning on a get together in Vegas next month. It is a very informal gathering -- not like a convention or anything. Members are making their own reservations, mostly around the Hilton, Sahara, Stratosphere area, but some as far away as Fremont Street.

Funny you should mention the STRATOSPHERE = they have some of the best meeting facilities in town =

http://www.stratospherehotel.com/las_vegas_banquet.html

Member #3943
03-28-06, 17:45
KC , you corrected one of my reports a couple months , and thanks, sometimes when wife is coming i type fast and it gets messed up, but yea the strat would put u in some heavy street walking areas, also the cheap stroll motels are thre too, good luck,

KC Questor
03-28-06, 19:29
Haha, C-Boy I remember that one!

Thanks for the tip PsyberZombie (and Carolina). I have called most of the hotels in the area and asked and they basically all want me to rent a meeting room or a hospitality suite. Then I'd need to buy food and drink from their catering department, in advance.

I was really hoping for more of a club, bar, or restaurant that had an area set up for parties. It wouldn't even need to be a private room, as long as they had space for 15-20 people without us having to pull tables together -- and the other patrons wouldn't mind us getting a bit loud. We probably won't be eating all that much, since many of us will have had dinner already. But our alcohol bill will be huge.

Anyway, I appreciate the feedback. if anyone has any tips or thoughts please PM me or post here. And of course if you are ever in the Kansas-Missouri area please feel free to ask me anything.

Speck
03-28-06, 23:50
Many of the higher end lounges are not too crowded in the 8pm to 10pm time range. But you will spend through the nose on alcohol.

Casbar Lounge at Sahara is pretty quiet at this time. It is recommended on Lasvegasadvisor.com as a "top deal" since you can go see lounge acts for no cost. If lots of your group is in that area, that may be something to consider.....you wont have one single table, but its more of a bar type environment.

I can't think of anyplace in Strat that fits your requirements except the top of the world lounge, but again you will pay through the nose.

Another option is the brewpub at Main Street Station. That is downtown. You will have to push tables together, but I don't see it being a problem. Also, pints of beer are $1 after midnight.

Another place downtown that will work...but horrible environment...no girls or anything...is the mini sports bar at Vegas Club. If you just want to get together and drink...no one will bother you. I don't know what time they close, but its after 10pm.

Another downtown place is Henneseys Tavern. It just opened. I do not know how crowded it is on weekends. Depending on your age, Jillians across the street may work as well(similiar to Dave and Busters sort of).

Also consider Hofbrahaus http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/
No one will care how loud you are. Beers are like $10 but are good and very large. If anyone can drink more than three I'd be surprised. It might be very crowded though.

Finally, just bar hop downtown.
Fremont Street is closed off. Beer is real cheap(plastic 55oz footballs of beer for $5) at the stands...hit the historic bar at binions and golden gate, the main st brew pub, and just stroll around downtown. Play a little low limit($5) craps and BJ at Golden Gate.


Haha, C-Boy I remember that one!

Thanks for the tip PsyberZombie (and Carolina). I have called most of the hotels in the area and asked and they basically all want me to rent a meeting room or a hospitality suite. Then I'd need to buy food and drink from their catering department, in advance.

I was really hoping for more of a club, bar, or restaurant that had an area set up for parties. It wouldn't even need to be a private room, as long as they had space for 15-20 people without us having to pull tables together -- and the other patrons wouldn't mind us getting a bit loud. We probably won't be eating all that much, since many of us will have had dinner already. But our alcohol bill will be huge.

Anyway, I appreciate the feedback. if anyone has any tips or thoughts please PM me or post here. And of course if you are ever in the Kansas-Missouri area please feel free to ask me anything.

Ricksone
03-29-06, 12:27
You might think about any of the "Big Dog Breweries" if you don't mind not having the show or girls. I'm sure they wouldn't charge for the room, drinks arn't expensive, the beer in excellent as well the food. You won't spend a fortune then go out after everyone arrives if you want a show.

R

Wastrel
04-01-06, 01:14
Suspect arrested in slaying of woman at Mandalay Bay

California man held in March 3 death

Authorities believe they have captured the man who strangled a 22-year-old woman earlier this month and dumped her naked body in a hallway on the 25th floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

<SNIP>

"Detectives believe that the victim entered the room with James Flansburg for the purpose of engaging in sex for money," police said in the warrant, adding that one of Gray's friends described her as a prostitute who frequented hotel bars and worked without a pimp.

<SNIP>

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Mar-30-Thu-2006/news/6619802.html

Cienega32
05-10-06, 01:55
I see on the L.A. news here in New Mexico (?) that the Boardwalk hit the ground today.

They said that it was the 12th one and 10 more were in the books for the future.

10 more... It's all going away... just like it was a dream.

I guess soon the town will be nothing but celebrity wanna bees and their heros schmoozin the "To die for" scene hoping everyone sees them.

Oh well... it used to be such a nice quaint little town.

Magnod
05-10-06, 04:18
I've been spending so much time gathering data on mongering for the up-coming trip that I forgot to get some intel on nightclub spots.

I've heard that its hard for two normal guys to get into a lot of Vegas clubs. I've seen them passing out those VIP card things to groups of girls around the Bally / Ceaser areas. Any good place to visit and have a good time without the hassle of fighting to get in?

Electrons 54
05-10-06, 12:43
I know the Boyd group is doing a major billion dollar project on the stardust property soon. I was suppose to have happened already but they pushed it off a little. I don't know when they've reschedule it, but it should be coming up soon.

it won't be long (few more years) before all the strip hotel rooms will be 200 + as the daily rate.



I see on the L.A. news here in New Mexico (?) that the Boardwalk hit the ground today.

They said that it was the 12th one and 10 more were in the books for the future.

10 more... It's all going away... just like it was a dream.

I guess soon the town will be nothing but celebrity wanna bees and their heros schmoozin the "To die for" scene hoping everyone sees them.

Oh well... it used to be such a nice quaint little town.

Domino Harvey
05-11-06, 03:12
I heard on the news that in the next 5 years builders are going to be spending more money on the Strip than they've spent in the last 20. They claim the Strip will not even be recognizable as it is today in the year 2015. Or something like that. With all the new developments of highrise condos, Trump towers and new casinos planned in the horizon, it's really no surprise. I remember back in the day when Circus Circus was the newest hot spot in town. For some of you I'm sure it's the Flamingo.

Times are changing.

Norman Stormin
05-12-06, 10:01
I remember back in the day when Circus Circus was the newest hot spot in town. For some of you I'm sure it's the Flamingo.

Times are changing.

Jay Sarno's brain child. You paid $20 a year for the privilege of having a reserved section near the Pony Bar, line pass privilges, and other promotional discounts similar to today's slot club cards.

I was at the Flamingo opening too but security wouldn't let me in. Strictly black tie. Those were the days before J. C. Penney's (6th and Fremont) had a tux rental department.

Stardust is closing January 1st. New Frontier is on the demo list too. Will be a Swiss village theme with a big Ferris wheel like the one in London. Rufkin is stalling hoping to pick up a lot of the Stardust business while they rebuild.

Cienega32
05-13-06, 02:31
And all I have is a picture of the clown in the parking lot with the Silverbird in the background.

Man - you guys be old...

Wastrel
05-13-06, 17:20
Filing draws to a close - Last day for ballot bids brings out the usual unusuals

A former porn star filed for governor...

<SNIP>

Melody Damayo, who performed under the name Mimi Miyagi in movies such as "Seoul Train," appeared at the Sawyer Building downtown about 4:30 p.m. in a hot-pink pillbox hat, hot-pink high-heeled sandals and a very low-cut hot-pink suit. She was accompanied by an entourage she called her Campaign Cuties as well as two dark-suited bodyguards.

Damayo, who called herself the "former Asian Love Goddess," filed to run for governor as a Republican, saying one of her priorities would be anti-stalking legislation. She added that she hoped to address youth and gang violence "so they don't do it anymore."

Damayo, 32, is a native of the Philippines. She said she originally thought to run for mayor but was encouraged to run for governor by her friends. She has lived in Henderson for 13 years, she said.

Damayo said she retired from the adult film industry in 2003 with the film "Happy Ending."

"I have nothing left to hide," she said. "My slogan is, 'I'm bare and honest at all times.'"

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/May-13-Sat-2006/news/7389806.html

Cienega32
05-14-06, 01:10
... and next week she'll be dancing in Pompano Beach Fla at the Booby Trap.


http://www.mimimiyagi.com/

Frankfurter
05-18-06, 17:25
Norman,

This was truly a very cool report, thank you! You are absolutely on the mark concerning the relationship between service/attitude/looks and price, but the kids don't know yet!

I will be in LV this coming weekend with a friend of mine, riding our MC's to town.

Maybe we see you on Fleamont and you can provide advice on where to connect with the $20 BBBJCIM ladies. I always want to learn!

See ya!

Wastrel
06-05-06, 00:10
Not the kind of thing folks will look forward to hearing about, but there are definitely things that bug me more than too much law enforcement. Such as not enough, when predatory slave-dealing creeps don't stay locked in their cages where they belong:

BODIES FOUND IN DESERT: Three charged in two deaths

One man may have been pimping victim

Henderson police have charged three men in connection with the slayings of two women whose bodies were found May 20 in a desert area of Henderson.

Police charged Domonic Ronaldo Malone, 26; Donald Jay Herb, 29; and Jason D. McCarty, 35, with numerous felony counts, including murder with a deadly weapon, kidnapping and conspiracy to commit murder.

"The detectives have gathered a substantial amount of evidence that has amounted to probable cause for these arrests," said Henderson Police Department spokesman Todd Rasmussen.

Although police wouldn't comment on a motive for the slayings, a source familiar with the case said that at least one of the suspects was prostituting one of the victims and that both victims were killed over "a money issue."

<SNIP>

All three suspects have extensive criminal backgrounds, records show.

In March 2001, Malone was arrested on charges of cocaine possession. He told North Las Vegas police at the time that he was an ex-felon for battery with intent to commit a crime.

Herb was scheduled to serve time in the Clark County Detention Center this weekend for failing to finish a drug treatment program he was assigned to after arrests on drug possession charges in 2004 and 2005.

<SNIP>

McCarty also has a history of drug charges. And in the early 1990s, he was charged with taking a vehicle without consent, being in possession of a stolen vehicle and being in possession of a controlled substance.

Photos of the worthless scumbag homicidal pimps included in article at:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/May-27-Sat-2006/news/7648345.html

Police: Slaying suspect had threatened women
Friend of two victims told of beatings, demands for prostitution money

A few days before Victoria [Deleted] and Charlotte [Deleted] were found slain in the desert in Henderson, one of the men arrested in connection with their deaths had threatened to kill and bury them in the sand if they didn't make money for him, according to Henderson police reports.

Domonic "D-Roc" Malone, 26, had driven [Name], [Name] and a third woman to the Hard Rock Hotel and dropped them off there, ordering them to prostitute themselves, Henderson police wrote in Malone's arrest report.

"D-Roc then told the girls that if they didn't make him any money, there were going to be three shallow graves in the desert in the morning," according to the police report.

On the morning of May 20, a man found the naked bodies of the two women while he was walking his dog in the Henderson desert south of the Wagonwheel Drive exit off U.S. Highway 95.

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The third woman who had been dropped off at the Hard Rock with the victims told police she had been threatened and beaten multiple times by Malone.

She told police she had gotten into a car with the three suspects and the two victims on May 16 and 17 at the Sahara hotel and casino, police said. She knew the victims and Malone from the Sportsman's Royal Pub, 5600 Boulder Highway at Tropicana Avenue, according to the police report.

She told police Malone began to punch her head during the drive and she blacked out at one point. She said she was driven to a construction site in the desert where Malone beat her some more.

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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/May-31-Wed-2006/news/7696993.html

GatorsDen
06-05-06, 03:35
I've been spending so much time gathering data on mongering for the up-coming trip that I forgot to get some intel on nightclub spots.

I've heard that its hard for two normal guys to get into a lot of Vegas clubs. I've seen them passing out those VIP card things to groups of girls around the Bally / Ceaser areas. Any good place to visit and have a good time without the hassle of fighting to get in?

This may be a little late for your post but I'll reply for the record.

Getting into Vegas clubs isn't that hard; as a general rule, $50 goes a long way.

The door people typically ignore those VIP cards the cabbies give you. They also often ignore comps and line passes too.

If you really want to blow it all out, stay up all night, and get some snatch, the best strategy IMHO is to get four guys together and get a booth at Rain. The booth includes a bottle, and if you add it all up, it's probably cheaper than waiting in line, paying cover, buying your own drinks and all that. Women troll through the VIP area and will plop down to visit. That works if you like serendipity. Or, alternatively, once you get settled, send someone out to scout the line. Find four cuties toward the end of the line and invite them in (they get in for free if they're with you!) It's sort of like shopping for Barbies. Gotta love that.

I can usually skip line at Drai's for $20 to the big bald-headed guy at the door. He's very nice if you treat him respectfully. You should probably be hooked up already before you go there, the single women there for the most part are looking for happiness in pill form. Maybe you will find some who already took their medicine, that could be fun (bring gum and a lighter).

IMHO Tao isn't all that, but I know the head bouncer from Ghostbar and he is very nice. $100 will make him your friend, and he will remember you. Personally I don't think Tao is worth it: crowded, hot, loud, obnoxious. But hey, if that works for you, you might like it.

Pure, Body English, and Light are pure misery trying to get in, especially on a Saturday night. If you're single, you will have more fun at Rain. If you insist on going, be prepared to pay, pay, pay.

Check out Empire, an after-hours club. Cabbie should know where it is. Get there early (ie, 2am) and you will breeze right in. Place is packed at 4. Rather odd crowd, but friendly. Easy to hook up here, especially if you aren't picky (although there are some gorgeous women there).

Personally I don't much like the "normal" clubs right now. I like Pure OK but right now, overall the way I like to do Vegas clubs is to hit a lounge early (like Ghostbar) and just hang in there long enough to hit an after-hours club. There are three after-hours places right now that are just wonderful: Drai's in Barbary Coast, Empire, and Seamless. I haven't been to Seamless but supposedly it's the best. I've always loved Drai's, they play gorgeous Ibiza-style house, which puts people in the greatest mood. Empire plays an edgier, very minimalist techno and tech-house. It's fun but weird. Crowd gets cranky after a while. Plan on showing up around 2-3 to get in easy. Most people stay until like 8am or later. Seamless opens a little later, it's a titty bar by day and they have to get that operation closed down first.

There are several lounges that are good for early evening. Ghostbar has always been one of my favorites. Evidently it isn't as cool as it used to be, I can get past the line for $40 now. Chilled out, usually good music, very nice environment to strike up a conversation. Crowd gets better looking as the night goes on, and usually peaks about 1am.

Tabu over at MGM is GREAT. Tables are real expensive, but you'll do fine just hanging out by the bar. Don't hang at the first bar as you come in the door; hang a right, go through the VIP area and hang out in that bar. Mostly house and progressive hip hop.

I've heard good things about Voodoo, and apparently there's a new lounge at Wynn that's worth looking at. The lounge at Tao is great, especially if you can score a seat at the bar. Stunningly beautiful women, very friendly room. Lots of celebs. A good choice if you are very good-looking. Some rich chick will probably buy YOU drinks.

Here's MY ideal Vegas evening. Wake up at 6 or so. Get a shower and a Red Bull. Play some blackjack until about nine or so. Wander over to Little Buddha and have some sushi. When you come out, the Palms will be buzzing with excitement: all the gorgeous people, dressed to the hilt. Lines forming for the clubs. Ease on over to the velvet rope with two twenties in your hand. You'll get in. Ghost will be deserted at this time (in spite of the line!) so you find a seat outside, grab a nice Sapphire and tonic. By and by the tourists will leave, and the locals, celebs and hard core partiers will fill the room. Party until about 2 or 3, talking to all the nice people. Then grab a double espresso and cab it over to Drai's. Listen to the gorgeous music and dance until the sun comes up and the birds go tweet tweet. Oh yeah.

Magnod
06-07-06, 03:21
Thanks GatorsDen,

I'm heading up in July for the WSOP. I'll be sure to check out your list if I'm open at nights. Might have to get some rest for the tourney but if I'm out early I can always have some fun the other way.

Norman Stormin
06-08-06, 19:32
HIZ HONOR SPEAKS THE TRUTH:

IT'S LEGAL IN NEVADA / or at least it's consciously disregarded

I GLEANED THIS TIDBIT FROM THE RENO GAZETTE JOURNAL:

For all his ethical challenges, Goodman said he recently spoke to a gathering of new mayors at the Kennedy School of Government about ethics: "With all my ethics problems, I lectured all the new mayors on how not to get indicted," he said. Adding: "Ethics and morals are two different things. No one ever accused me of being immoral."

Goodman had some interesting reactions to a story in the Las Vegas Sun about Sheriff Bill Young's decision not to seek re-election. In the article, Young lamented the turn of the strip from solely gambling to a bevy of licentious vices that prove a challenge to law enforcement, namely the proliferation of prostitution, strips clubs and drugs. Ironically, Las Vegas has enjoyed huge economic success by marketing itself as such. Goodman blamed law enforcement for the prostitution problem, likening it to immigration:

"Nobody has clean hands. Law enforcement for years has turned a blind eye to the reality of prostitution taking place in Las Vegas. Instead of having intellectual conversations of how to address it, they just have a conscious disregard for it. It's like immigration. We have laws on the books and there's almost a reliance on the part of those folks that come over here that nothing is going to happen to them."


I thought it quite chivilrous that NO LOCAL JOURNALIST picked up on the Mayor blaming Metro for turning a blind eye on prostitution. I guess they don't dare bite their handler's hand.

ALL BETS ARE OFF ON THE TROPICANNA SWEEP.

Hope this helps, Stormin

Wastrel
06-08-06, 21:36
What an utter crock of Shiite.

The latest random delerious ravings of Oscar Goodman in public have absolutely no relevance at all to anything which occurs at Metro or anywhere else. He has no personal authority to manage any part of Las Vegas city government, Metro is not even a city governmant agency, and the overwhelming majority of the geography he and we refer to is not in the City at all. He is in his meaningless ceremonial office becuase the predominately illiterate residents of Las Vegas find his alchoholic circus clown act amusing, and because he always does exactly what he is told by anyone in a position to do him some good, including his pals who have repeatedly beat dozens of guys senseless who simply had the misfortune of walking into one of their clip joints, to squeeze a few extra dollars or in some cases just because they felt like it and it's Thursday. Many are dead, others are crippled, at least one is on a feeding tube for the rest of his life, after they encountered Mr. Goodman's pals when going out on the town for a lap dance. Not an opinion, the stomach turning facts are in evidence in Federal court. After becoming very wealthy with his minor cut of the procedes of decades of pimping, torture, rape, and murder, the mayor is now in the advanced stages of alchoholic dementia, and nobody with any real authority or serious influence has any reason to care what noise comes out when his lips move. It is highly ulikely that he can recall what he said 15 minutes ago, and he will likely say something contradicting it 15 minutes from now. A broken clock is right twice a day, a chimpanzee with a piano will occasionally hit a chord, and once and a while a noise which is kinda sorta partly related to something almost true will be heard in between swigs of hizzoner's gin. The only reason he ever gets quoted at all, besides some still thinking his act is cute, is becuase many journalists, especially in the electronic media, as well as residents, have no clue as to the actual structure of local governement or even where the City of Las Vegas really is and isn't located. They majored in journalism and communications at Enormous State University to avoid doing any math or serious reading.

The former Sheriff cashed out for a position at Wynn Resorts, the current Sheriff has announced he is taking his golden parachute at Station Casinos, the next incoming Sheriff will be taken care of in similar fashion, Metro responds exclusively to the wishes of casino and union bosses, and Oscar Goodman is rather less important than a valet parking lot attendant to all of them, and is likely to have quite a bit less cogent understanding of anything occuring in southern Nevada than the aforementioned parking attendant.

It would be perfectly appropriate to pay less attention to him than any other low life violent psycho pimp.

But all that aside, it is always good to hear from YOU, Norman.

Rant over, have a nice day. And welcome to Las Vegas, Ronster from the Big Easy.

Wastrel
06-27-06, 11:20
Isn't Fremont the same dude who single handedly annexed Kalifornia from Mexico? Wonder if he could pull the same stunt if he walked into the Silver Saddle?In late 1846 Frémont...led a military expedition of 300 men to capture Santa Barbara, California during the Mexican-American War...and captured the Presidio, and the town, from behind...General Pico, recognizing that the war was lost, later surrendered to him rather than incur casualties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Fremont

I think that's about the right size force to take the Silver Saddle, but he might need some heavier weapons and artillery support.

Cienega32
06-28-06, 00:30
http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=5087247

"CAPITOL HILL -

Imagine a pimp needing an accountant. It could happen, because a leading lawmaker thinks the I-R-S ought to go after them.

In fact, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley says he'd like the tax man go after all sex traffickers with the same vim and vigor they use on drug traffickers.

The Iowa Republican thinks the I-R-S can target pimps for not filing employment forms and not withholding taxes from the prostitutes they control. He'd also like to change the rules so those women can become whistleblowers.

Under Grassley's plan, certain tax crimes would become felonies if the money is made off other criminal activity. What now carries a year in jail and a 25-thousand-dollar fine would become ten years and 50-grand."

Bobb Wheele
06-30-06, 18:18
Any good adult book stores in town. Any chance of meeting women at one of these?

Maggs64
07-01-06, 15:38
There are several adult book/video/theatre stores in town. The Adult Superstores are probably the most well known. Your chances of meeting women are very slim, gay men however is a different story. I used to rent vids from the one on West Trop and occasionally stop into the coin-op video booths. I stopped going in there after the time I got out of my chair to see a young black fag feeling his dick and stairing at me.

Vegas Black
07-01-06, 16:54
Any good adult book stores in town. Any chance of meeting women at one of these?There's one on Boulder Highway south of Russell near Sam boyd stadium.

Be safe out there.

Domino Harvey
07-02-06, 02:30
There are several adult book/video/theatre stores in town. The Adult Superstores are probably the most well known. Your chances of meeting women are very slim, gay men however is a different story. I used to rent vids from the one on West Trop and occasionally stop into the coin-op video booths. I stopped going in there after the time I got out of my chair to see a young black fag feeling his dick and stairing at me.I've had the same experience as well at the Superstore on Trop. Several times I've been propositioned by a young black (or latin) kid wanting to suck my cock. No joke. I obviously haven't ever stuck around long enough to find out whether if it was an offer for free or if they expect some charity in return. The guy at the counter never seems to care whether I tell him there's a shady man loitering in the arcade or not.

These video arcades seem to attract all the gay men for some strange reason. It's a worldwide phenomenon. I've been to a variety of porn theaters abroad over the years (all straight porn), and they all tend to be the flocking grounds for gay men to hook up and suck each others dicks off. It's the strangest thing in my opinion. Why the straight porn?? The last time I've snooped around in a porn theater was well over 15 yrs ago, so things may be different now.

So no, you will absolutely not find a girl an adult bookstore/superstore, at least not in Las Vegas.

Vegas Black
07-07-06, 15:31
Several times I've been propositioned by a young black (or latin) kid wanting to suck my cock.
So no, you will absolutely not find a girl an adult bookstore/superstore, at least not in Las Vegas.

I was in the bookstore behind Circus circus last year. I was looking at the DVD's and this little asian dude cut in front of me and grabbed my dick! I hauled off and slapped the shit out of him. dude ran out the back door.
There some weird shit in them places.
Be safe out there............

Renaldow
07-07-06, 20:04
These video arcades seem to attract all the gay men for some strange reason. It's a worldwide phenomenon. I've been to a variety of porn theaters abroad over the years (all straight porn), and they all tend to be the flocking grounds for gay men to hook up and suck each others dicks off. It's the strangest thing in my opinion. Why the straight porn?? The last time I've snooped around in a porn theater was well over 15 yrs ago, so things may be different now.It comes from the days where most of these places had glory holes in the booths. The straight porn on the screen isn't a factor. Someplace dark and hidden is the key attraction now days. If you're a gay male in a strange town, you can always find a hook up by hitting the traditional spots.

The one that's always stumped me is, why do the gay males meet up at the rest stop bathrooms? That's got to be one of the most off the wall places.

Daijiro
07-07-06, 20:55
I was in the bookstore behind Circus circus last year. I was looking at the DVD's and this little asian dude cut in front of me and grabbed my dick! I hauled off and slapped the shit out of him. dude ran out the back door.
There some weird shit in them places.

Be safe out there............I went to the book store on LV Blvd up close Nellis. The one with the singles and couples booth to watch videos, but also watch the neighbor through a glass screen...

But the couples you find in there are usually two guys. One time I opened the curtain in my glass to take a peak at the "couple" next door.

And they were two guys. They though that because I peaked it was a sign I was interested. With in a minute I had a knock on my door and it was one of the guys in the couples booth. He tried to force his way in to my booth, but punched him right in the throat and got out of there quick.

The store owner asked what happened and I told him someone was trying to get into my booth. So I protected myself. He said shit not again.

Vegas Black
07-08-06, 18:48
How about we start a official Las Vegas Chat like 1 day a month/week. We can get real time info if we did this.
Be safe out there..............

Vegas Partier
07-08-06, 20:11
I went to the book store on LV Blvd up close Nellis. The one with the singles and couples booth to watch videos, but also watch the neighbor through a glass screen.

But the couples you find in there are usually two guys. One time I opened the curtain in my glass to take a peak at the "couple" next door.

And they were two guys. They though that because I peaked it was a sign I was interested. With in a minute I had a knock on my door and it was one of the guys in the couples booth. He tried to force his way in to my booth, but punched him right in the throat and got out of there quick.

The store owner asked what happened and I told him someone was trying to get into my booth. So I protected myself. He said shit not again.I walked back to the booths in that same store once, about a year ago. A guy was trolling back there, and grabbed his crotch when he saw me. I said "sorry, I'm looking for girls" and he looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. I just walked out. At this point I'd be afraid anything you found at these places had a penis, even if it looked like a girl.

Cienega32
07-09-06, 13:17
I walked back to the booths in that same store once, about a year ago. A guy was trolling back there, and grabbed his crotch when he saw me. I said "sorry, I'm looking for girls" and he looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. I just walked out. At this point I'd be afraid anything you found at these places had a penis, even if it looked like a girl.

A while back I posted about the arcades.

I first moved here in '81. On the Fremont/Charleston track there was, like today, some SW action. After Moran became Sherrif and began his anti-pussy campaign, those SWs would duck into The Talk of The Town when the police cruisers came by. That used to be a big porno shop in the strip mall on the SE corner of the Charleston/Eastern intersection.

A monger could grab a quick $10 BJ from one of the girls (in the booth), who started hanging in there more often (safety?). Then the dudes in dresses showed up. Not the chicks with dicks but dudes in dresses. There could be no mistake in thinking they weren't guys. Then - just guys and the quick end to what could've been a nice environment. It was over in less than a year and the city began a campaign against the porno shops.

There used to be another, much smaller store downtown that had 2 theaters - 1 gay, 1 straight where one could grab a quickie from a chick in the straight theater or a behind the store parking lot BJ. This was also a result of the 'run 'em off' approach of Sherrif Moran and, like at Talk of The Town, didn't last long before being overrun by the gay crowd.


I don't know what it is with that aspect of society. These gays are not the most sensible people on the block. They seem to have no problem accosting others in any environment. Shopping mall bathrooms, rest stop areas, straight porn theaters - it doesn't matter - they'll go beyond any measure of sensibility when trying to 'score' and then wonder why they get b!tch-slapped for grabbing some guys private area in a public area.

Now that these porno shops have gone towards more of a mainstream concept, I see couples going in but wonder how many, if any, actually visit for more than the shopping experience.

I Luv Puss
07-10-06, 23:29
Hello,

I will like to make a trip to Vegas during This Thanksgiving. I'm asian so my family is not too big on Thanksgiving and i believe i got Friday off so i can hop on a plane on Wed. and stay at Vegas until Sunday morning/lunch time. i have never been to Vegas before or outside of Texas.

Is Thanksgiving a good time for Vegas trip? i'll like to try Vegas strip joint, and those famous brothel like bunny ranch(?). how much do you think it will cost me? i'll like this trip to be cheap as much as possible.

Got any advices? Should I fly or drive? iIthink fly is better/cheaper.

i'll alway like to watch famous Vegas show and go to Casion for the first time in my life. do you have any suggestion and what other spots would you recommand?

Thanks

Wastrel
07-11-06, 01:36
Is Thanksgiving a good time for Vegas trip?...i'll like this trip to be cheap as much as possible.Yes.

In my opinion traditional American "family togetherness" type holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas are a wonderful time to come to Vegas. The town is starved for paying customers around those holidays, with hotels desperate to get warm bodies into empty beds and thousands of people working in all aspects of the tourist trade standing around painting their nails until the tourists get sick of all that forced togetherness and start heading back to town. Besides the fact that things get cheaper and less crowded, there's no place I'd rather be while everyone else in the country is getting drunk in misery over the strain of trying to pretend they actually like being in the company of aunt Nag and uncle Doofus.

I don't feel I know enough about your other questions to give dependable and current answers, so I won't try, but if you do a search of older posts I know you will find some sound advice about strip clubs. There is a regular visitor to town who posts here under the screen name Speck who I think has been well informed and reliable on the subject of the high quality strip joints that cater to tourists.

Since you will be new in town, I'd also like to strongly recomend that you read through an older thread titled "Clip-joints, scams, and rip-offs" begining at the begining with the first posts here:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2791&page=4&pp=15

And please do yourself a favor by paying extra special careful attention to this post: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362864&postcount=260

Taxi drivers and others who take payoffs from vicious thugs who want to rip you off are good at smelling out a fresh virgin visitor who can be steered to them, and you could have a very bad time if they get ahold of you, with no possibility of any help from local authorities who are also on the payroll of those who would like to rob you, so please take the time to read some of those posts in the link above to avoid their scams. If you do, you'll will most likely have a great time at below average cost with few worries; if you don't bother, then shame on you and carry the name and phone number of your family pinned to your underwear so the hospital or morgue can find your relatives.

I Luv Puss
07-11-06, 02:37
Wastrel,

Thank for the links. this is why i try to do my research as early as possible and have some ideas of how to get around town and what spots to hit. so, do not ask cab where the hot spots are but do my research here and just tell the cab to take me where i want to go. Am I correct?

Renaldow
07-11-06, 12:10
i'll like to try Vegas strip joint, and those famous brothel like bunny ranch(?). how much do you think it will cost me? i'll like this trip to be cheap as much as possible. If you want the trip to be as cheap as possible, forget about the brothels.

First, there are none in Vegas. Prostitution is illegal in Vegas, and all of Clark County (where Vegas lives.) The nearest brothels are about 65-80 miles away in Pahrump and Nye County. There are some brothels that claim to have a free shuttle service, but I cannot reccomend that. I've never used them, but it seems like a great way of sticking you out in the middle of the desert for 5 hours with nothing to do but spend your money at the brothel. If you go, research the brothels online (there are a lot of websites, google is your firend) and rent a car for the day to get there. At least if you have a car, you'll be able to hit a few brothels at the same time, and maybe one will have what you want and at a price you can afford.

Which brings us to reason #2: Women working in brothels in NV have a rare mental disorder that makes them think their vaginas are extra special and made out of gold. Even the really ugly ones have this disorder. Because of this, they want exhorbitant prices for the smallest of services. Sure, they'll promise you it's going to be the best $400 BJ you've ever had, but c'mon... I've heard wild tales of people actually getting decent rates at a brothel, but even then, it seems to be a rarity offered to locals and regular customers only. Rancher Bob probably doesn't pay $300 for his weekly HJ, but you probably will.

Since it's Thanskgiving weekend, you might be able to get a deal of some sort, so if you want to check it out, do so. Do some research a head of time, get a rental car, and don't be afraid to walk out and move down the road.

As for your more general questions, there are a lot of websites/forums dedicated to the 'straight' Vegas. There's two that I would suggest:

www.cheapovegas.com for info about the hotels/casinos themselves, and what they offer.

www.lasvegastalk.com is a large message board with a lot of Vegas veterans sitting around waiting to answer questions and dispense advice on a wide range of Vegas related items. Read the first couple of pages of messages, a lot of what you want to know is going to already be there, and if not, reading those messages will more than likely help you narrow down your questions.

(Admin: If those links are illegal to post, please feel free to delete them from the message)

I Luv Puss
07-11-06, 18:03
Where do you Vegas guys get your nuts off?

SW or something? i monger sometime in Houston, the price go from $20 (crackwhore) to $80, one time a Hispanic SW told me in Vegas she can easily get over $150 per hr. do you guys really pay that much?

Speck
07-11-06, 21:22
Where do you Vegas guys get your nuts off?

SW or something? i monger sometime in Houston, the price go from $20 (crackwhore) to $80, one time a Hispanic SW told me in Vegas she can easily get over $150 per hr. do you guys really pay that much?


You make easy pickens dude.

But seriously, you are so pathetic that I will give you a start:

1.) Read this entire board. Seriously. 2005 and 2006. Every post. Really.

2.) Crack ho - same as everywhere $10-30 BBBJ, fs-god help you. Other streetwalkers are sporadic and due to the recent crackdown on Tropicana Ave, pretty scarce at the moment.

3.) Cg aka casino girl - $200 and up. And you are unlikely to get an hour. Really.

Bigboi47
07-11-06, 21:59
Where do you Vegas guys get your nuts off?

SW or something? i monger sometime in Houston, the price go from $20 (crackwhore) to $80, one time a Hispanic SW told me in Vegas she can easily get over $150 per hr. do you guys really pay that much?
If you are walking down the strip there will be people handing out fliers with pictures of hot girls and promises of a good time. Look at the pictures but DO NOT CALL THEM! If you do the girl they send will not be the one on the flyer. They wanted $150 just to take off the clothes then the upsell begins. I wish I could have read this forum before I made the mistake of calling the number on the flyer.

I Luv Puss
07-12-06, 00:32
You make easy pickens dude.

But seriously, you are so pathetic that I will give you a start:

1.) Read this entire board. Seriously. 2005 and 2006. Every post. Really.

2.) Crack ho - same as everywhere $10-30 BBBJ, fs-god help you. Other streetwalkers are sporadic and due to the recent crackdown on Tropicana Ave, pretty scarce at the moment.

3.) Cg aka casino girl - $200 and up. And you are unlikely to get an hour. Really.It's what she told me, I do not know what the price is at Vegas (maybe she is lying her ass off, I do not know that's why I ask) and I don't do SW anymore. I'm more into SPA now. You don't need to be rude, calling me pathetic. I thank you for your tips. I'll read the reports that you suggested.

Guady1
07-12-06, 14:11
Don't worry Puss,
I had a person who always pasted my comments and had something negative to say. I just stayed off for awhile.
This is a very helpful forum and there will be people who won't not be kind and vice versa.

I do not pickup sw's, especially after reading the forums. I saw on 'cops' last night an episode that was filmed in North L.V. They had an undercover vehicle stop a guy in a p/u. He had a sw but he didn't know she was a he.

They let him go, but he got off lucky twice. It just goes to show how risky the streets are. Yeah, its cheaper than an agency or cw.

Stay away from the business cards, one of them had a picture of my favorite porn star-Charmine Star. They were meant for out of towners who don't do their homework.

One last thing on price. There will be all kinds of factors like her need for money, weekends you can expect high prices due to the demand, where you are doing business (AMP's,cw in a hotel,in your car)and her knowledge of the business.

I stayed at MoBay one time and cw's start at $2 when they hear you are in a 4 star hotel. It was a slow monday, a lot of girls sitting around at the bar. I sat down and as soon as my beer came, she came. I told her I have a girlfriend back in L.A. and $2 wasn't worth it.

She lowered it to $1 and off we went. She told me after not to tell the other girls I only paid $1. The one thing good about it was, she didn't have any business up until then and she was hungry!

I Luv Puss
07-14-06, 04:33
for Thanksgiving. I also went to Jackson's internationalsexguide and read about Mexico. TJ and Monterrey really caught my eyes, I tho about fly/drive to Cali and cross the board to TJ then on my way back home I stop at Vegas but TJ seem to be dangerous. Monterrey, Mexico seem much safer.

Thank for all you guys feedback. i think it's either TJ or Monterrey for me.

Happy mongering,

Cheer

Wastrel
07-14-06, 15:40
i don't think i'm going to Vegas...i think it's either TJ or Monterrey for me.Probably a sensible decision, since Las Vegas really isn't such a great budget traveller's destination nowadays. It's very good if you've got lots of cash to burn in high end resorts on some high priced tail, but doing the town on a budget is now an art form that takes a lot of time and local knowlege that the average working class vacationer probably doesn't have. The really affordable stuff generally is the same kind of SW trade that you see back home in Houston, with about the same price and quality and risks, and what makes sense for most tourists are the extremely good looking but quite spendy casino girls for a rare high priced fantasy experience.

But, if you want to ditch your loved ones again, or vice versa, on the next big American family holiday, you might consider Christmas in Vegas. Things get dirt cheap then just before they get very expensive in the build up to New Years eve, you can usually book a pretty nice room for something like twenty to forty bucks, and even some of those really good looking working girls in the casinos can become a better deal due to a temporary imbalance of supply and demand as they stream into town ahead of the huge New Years crowds. Also, I think the poor hookers look really cute shivering in their skimpy little Santa's helper outfits and the town looks so festive at night with the Xmas lights twinkling in the pawnshop windows.

Guady1
07-15-06, 04:28
Puss,
I have been to Mexico many times, that is where Guady comes from, Guadalajara. I have also been to Puerto Vallarta and TJ.

With TJ, I got a hotel in S.D. and there are tour companies that have buses that will pick you up at your hotel. They will take you across the border fast and easy.

They dropped us off at some street called revolution and you were on your own. It didn't take long for a cabbie to hook me up with a message parlor. I wish I had kept the business card but I know from this one street I met him, it was a straight 5 minute ride.

When inside, the owner had the ladies walk past you (it was me and another guy) it must have been over 20. I knew the look I wanted and when I saw her, I scooped her up right away. It only cost me $20 for everything. I can say TJ is very cheap.

The women I have been with in Mexico "all" gave me a GFE. I can say you are lucky to get that in Vegas.

I have lived in Vegas for 5 years and mongered hard where I used to live but this place is a challenge in it own. The forum is very helpful but I look for GFE's and that takes alot of work.

I Luv Puss
07-18-06, 18:18
after reading reports at Jackson's international sexguide forums.

Mexico seem to be the place to get your nutz off for cheap. The only problem that I have is safety, I don't want cabbies/people to slit my thorat and rob me blind plus I speak no Spanish at all.

I guess it's best to hook up with someone down there to hold my noob hand.

KC Questor
07-19-06, 00:37
Dude, if the cabbies slit the throats of tourists in the tourist section of town, don't you think it would be bad for business? Maybe tourists would stop coming there, and the hookers and bars would lose business and stop paying off the cops? All in all, it is better for everyone if the cabbies DON'T slit the throats of the tourists.

The international guide has tons of good advice for newbs. Here's Tijuana in a nutshell:

Drive to the border and park in one of the lots on the US side.
Cross the border
Find a taxi (well, they will find you). Say "Adelita Bar" (ah-day-LEE-tah bar).
Sit in the front with the cabbie. Pay him $5 when you get there.
Go in, buy a beer, look at the pretty ladies. Buy one of them a drink.
If you don't like any of them, cross the street to Chicago Bar.
When you find a girl you like, negotiate a price, go upstairs, have naughty dirty sex. (Tip the guy with the mop a dollar).
Get a cab. Say "USA" or "aduana" (ah-DWA-na, border). Pay $5
Cross to the US (have your license!), then walk across the bridge over the highway to the parking lots.
Drive home.

Wastrel
07-19-06, 01:45
...don't you think it would be bad for business? Maybe tourists would stop coming there, and the hookers and bars would lose business and stop paying off the cops?You might think so, but at least in this town you would be very wrong, as recently proven and admitted to in Federal (NOT State or local) court, once again recently. There seems no limit to the number of tourists who are available to take their place in line to be robbed, beaten, crippled, or killed, with full knowlege and approval of local government and law enforcement in Las Vegas. No flaw in your logic that I see, it just happens to be completely at variance with the facts locally. Just because it is happening apparently doesn't necessarily mean there are many choosing to pay attention, or that it is broadcast widely enough to matter. Yet.

But your remark was about the other side of the border, and I'll just take your word for it that Mexico is different, since it sounds like you're much more familiar with it, and I am not.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=447916&postcount=56

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=437173&postcount=53

Wastrel
07-19-06, 03:48
Hotel Guests Sue Over Vegas Condom Shocker

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0718062condom1.html

Guady1
07-19-06, 21:23
Puss,
You don't have to speak spanish in TJ, english is widely spoken. I speak spanish and I had a hard time getting them to speak spanish (I wanted to practice)
because I don't have that hard accent.

Also, I brought peso (mexican dollars), they want U.S. dollars! They can convert that money somewhere and get more money. If you buy a t-shirt for $20US, the peso rate was 11 to 1, when I was there. Well, that $20 becomes
220 pesos when they find their moneychangers, that's a 20 peso "extra" profit.

I can tell you right now, If I were flying from somewhere and I had to choose Vegas or TJ, It would be TJ hands down.

The street the TOUR company dropped us off is full of americans, very safe. Don't waste your time in a bar, get to the point. The one thing they (the bad guys) look for is someone who is not in their right mind (Inebriated). The MP's are safe, fun, and cheap. Try to imagine a "line up" of women, ready to make some money.

I don't know if I mentioned that I paid $50 for the door fee. The girl asked for only $20 for everything but I gave her a $20 tip because she did things I liked without asking. I usually just sit back and see what a woman will do on her own.

You can go to Puerto Vallarta or Guadalajara and they are very safe but they cost at least $100US, the women there are more sophisticated but still worth it. They value money more there than Vegas where it comes pretty easy.

Cienega32
07-19-06, 23:35
From Adelitas go out the back door to and thru La Valentina to "The Alley" or just walk a half block south from Adelitas. The street is lined, shoulder to shoulder at some points. with SWs. Only problem with that is some are minors (a real big time no-no in Mexico), and you get hustled for the extras. 5 more for sin ropa, etc. - things like that. But it is fun to walk thru a dozen or so young and pretty chicas with all of them grabbing and tugging your shirtsleeve!

Revolucion is the main tourist trap strip.

DO NOT walk back to the pedestrian bridge at nite.

If you already found the International site then you'll have more than a fair share of good info available to you concerning your safety, cash on hand, Policia & banditos (sometimes they're the same thing), etc.

I have a few maps if needed.

KC Questor
07-20-06, 16:53
You might think so, but at least in this town you would be very wrong, as recently proven and admitted to in Federal (NOT State or local) court, once again recently. There seems no limit to the number of tourists who are available to take their place in line to be robbed, beaten, crippled, or killed, with full knowlege and approval of local government and law enforcement in Las Vegas. No flaw in your logic that I see, it just happens to be completely at variance with the facts locally. Just because it is happening apparently doesn't necessarily mean there are many choosing to pay attention, or that it is broadcast widely enough to matter. Yet.

But your remark was about the other side of the border, and I'll just take your word for it that Mexico is different, since it sounds like you're much more familiar with it, and I am not.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=447916&postcount=56

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=437173&postcount=53

I certainly wouldn't want to argue with you about Vegas, Wastrel. However, you say in the first link:


Here is a hint of what can happen to unwary tourists who let themselves get delivered to one of the mobbed up places in town.

(emphasis mine)

I was saying that if you know where you are going (in TJ) and you stay within the confines of accepted behavior at the accepted locations, you'll be fine.

An equivalent would be

1) Telling the cabby "Spearmint Rhino", going in, paying for some lap dances, and leaving -- safe
2) Asking the cabbie to take you somewhere "for a good time", going in, paying a girl "for a good time" and making a big fuss when you don't get laid -- not safe

Wastrel
07-20-06, 17:50
KC Questor,

I agree completely. Your emphasis on the keywords you highlighted gets to the heart of the matter. And if TJ has any resemblance to some other places I know, like Manila, then I imagine you're probably right about expanding the same general principle to that town too.

The difficulty, and the opportunity for the clip joints to continue to thrive, comes from the fact that with so many thousands of fresh eager virgin wet behind the ears guys coming to Vegas daily, "unwary" accurately describes so many ordinary tourists. I think there is often an assumption that a joint operating in the open with plenty of neon on an attractive facade in Vegas must be allright, that somehow it wouldn't be able to continue doing business so openly in Las Vegas if it was all that bad. But there are plenty that really are that bad, and they have no problem operating for decades in spitting distance of the resort corridor, with plenty of jack to pay the cabbie kickbacks at the back door and the light bill on the impressive sexy signage out front, as well as the rental of several judges and a mayor and some local Metro police officers. It just seems so perfectly reasonable to many to think that a guy should be able to head out on the town for a lap dance on the spur of the moment without mapping out the whole frickin' operation in advance to protect his ass and his assets.

In Las Vegas too, as I think you correctly implied in your post, the solution is usually pretty simple: arm yourself with some knowlege of the local scene in advance, don't be steered someplace by someone who doesn't have your best interest in mind, know where you want to go and how to get there, and demand that your driver do exactly that, no matter what blather comes out of his mouth to the effect that the place is closed or burned down or has ugly girls and he has something better for you. Do that, and also avoid committing the universal international offense of "travelling while stupid," and you're fine. But it doesn't occur to a lot of tourists that they really need to do that in Vegas, too, just as I'd want to do in Juarez or Manila or whatever.

Regards,

W

Wastrel
08-01-06, 19:13
Starting at 5:00 p.m. (Pacific) time today (Tuesday-8/1) Court TV is running a 1998 Cops episode described in my satellite listing as follows: "Las Vegas - Vice Squad Special Edition: In Las Vegas, undercover officers target prostitution."

Actually, it appears to be the kickoff of a veritable Cops in Vegas festival today, as this begins a two hour block of Cops with three more Las Vegas episodes (circa 1997) following the vice special. All the Metro khaki you can eat, come and get it. Court TV has the same episodes scheduled to air again tonight from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m.

IndyDave
08-07-06, 18:17
Starting at 5:00 p.m. (Pacific) time today (Tuesday-8/1) Court TV is running a 1998 Cops episode described in my satellite listing as follows: "Las Vegas - Vice Squad Special Edition: In Las Vegas, undercover officers target prostitution."

Didn't get a chance to watch...I wonder if the CopFest showed T-Girl Jenna, blonde with the red Corvette and the six-foot long string of condoms? Story about that person...ran across "her" in a LV bar one night...thought I had seen her before...I was fairly well lubricated when it came to me and I spouted off...'I know you! I've seen you on national television!" "She" gives me a look and in a rather nice baritone says "SHUT UP!". The bartender is nodding and laughing, so I can't let it alone...."I saw you on Court TV!" and I made that motion the cop made, holding up that string of condoms, and by then the whole bar is watching. At this point, "she" became enraged..."I'm gonna kick your ass!", "she" says...and I realized that she probably could and try to apologize...then she bursts out in tears and starts screamin' at the bartender..."You told him, you b*tch!"....the bartender, female I thought, responds, also in baritone...and as they shout at each other, I quietly slipped out the closest door, finally realizing that I am definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time....but I always remember that bar visit every time I see Cops in LV...

Ride00
08-08-06, 10:21
The wife and I were coming out of the Flamingo one night and we saw a dirty blond SW. The wife said, she looks familiar. We actually spoke, then I realized she was on an episode of COPS.

Television can make you famous.

Vegas Black
08-08-06, 10:59
COPS are in town filming new episodes.
Keep and eye out.
Be safe out there.........

Wastrel
08-11-06, 02:13
After a lawyer due to defend a man against a kidnapping charge showed up to court late and smelling of booze last week, a Clark County District Court judge ordered the attorney to take a Breathalyzer test in open court…<SNIP>…Caramagno arrived about 90 minutes late in the company of a young woman wearing a black halter top and tight pants…<SNIP>…Caramagno told [Judge Leavitt] the woman who accompanied him into court was his ex-girlfriend…<SNIP>…But when Leavitt questioned the woman, she said she had met Caramagno about 20 minutes earlier…<SNIP>…Caramagno also referred to the woman as Christine. The woman later identified herself in court as Josephine…<SNIP>…"You told me she was your ex-girlfriend," Leavitt said. "Now I'm very upset with you."…<SNIP>…It was not clear Monday evening whether Caramagno could face disciplinary proceedings from the State Bar of Nevada…

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Aug-08-Tue-2006/news/8944900.html

Cienega32
08-11-06, 02:27
[I] After a lawyer due to defend a man against a kidnapping charge showed up to court late and smelling of booze last week, a Clark County District Court judge ordered the attorney to take a Breathalyzer test in open court…<SNIP>…Caramagno arrived about 90 minutes late in the company of a young woman wearing a black halter top and tight pants…<SNIP>


Perhaps he was on the same bar as the one that got popped with the SW? :)

Muggs
08-12-06, 04:20
After a lawyer due to defend a man against a kidnapping charge showed up to court late and smelling of booze last week, a Clark County District Court judge ordered the attorney to take a Breathalyzer test in open court…<SNIP>…Caramagno arrived about 90 minutes late in the company of a young woman wearing a black halter top and tight pants…<SNIP>…Caramagno told [Judge Leavitt] the woman who accompanied him into court was his ex-girlfriend…<SNIP>…But when Leavitt questioned the woman, she said she had met Caramagno about 20 minutes earlier…<SNIP>…Caramagno also referred to the woman as Christine. The woman later identified herself in court as Josephine…<SNIP>…"You told me she was your ex-girlfriend," Leavitt said. "Now I'm very upset with you."…<SNIP>…It was not clear Monday evening whether Caramagno could face disciplinary proceedings from the State Bar of Nevada…

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Aug-08-Tue-2006/news/8944900.html

I was reading your edit at the bottom of post!!

Bolt Shooter
09-16-06, 19:02
First time posting, few years mongering. Have stayed many times at the higher end casinos on the corporate $ and always found company easy to come by for $$, or put it this way, I have never had 2 refusals back to back.

This time I stayed at TI on my own pocket in August and for the first couple of days it looked a mistake. Very little action, one or two floating that looked more interested in the next phone call than doing some instant business.

Probably the best gambling trip so far, which allowed me to treat myself a lot in the week. a 4 or 5 in the Mirage Sports bar was going to be a "no" but she had great attitude and won me over for $$. Unfortunately, when the clothes came off, she was hiding quite a few untoned pounds, but once the dog has seen the rabbit.....

Then on a Friday night about 5am I was contemplating bed empty handed when a young BCG strolled in. I made sure we bumped in to each other and the conversation got to the point pretty quickly. I happened to have 3x green and 3x red chips from the craps table in my hand, probably broke every LE check in the book but asked how much I needed to turn it into to party. She said for CBJ that would do it! I have managed CBJ from 3/10 material in casinos elsewhere for $ but this was a 7 and for <$ we most definitely had a deal. She insisted on grabbing a feel by the slots as her check and off we went. Unfortunately a lacklustre performance but it did what it needed to do. I was taken aback when she insisted that I go downstairs and cash the chips for her, I thought perhaps she just wanted a low profile, but it dawned on me possibly just how young she was, there may have been a 21 issue, but I guess it more likely a profile concern.

2 bad experiences in the week. One was a "take-away" from the Rio. Refused less than $$$$$, I ended up getting it for $$$, more than I am used to but sometimes you just have to do... Anyway, back in the room the attitude goes from bad to worse. Weighing in at an "atheletic" 280 lbs I made sure she enjoyed it even less than I did and chalked it up to experience.

I think $$$ is just plain unnecessary, although hammering them down too far below $$ generally affects service.

The other bad experience was my freebie of the week. A bunch of girls out partying pretty hard and I accepted a fairly unambiguous come-on from one of them. The only unsafe practice of the week and 3 weeks after returning the little fella starts burning, test results due but chlamydia suspected. Any neat suggestions to tell a long term partner where that came from?

Bolt Shooter
09-19-06, 16:50
No need to put this one up - just wondering why I got moved to Off-topic? First post and all, so learning, but I thought that was very much on-topic and suitable for general reports?

PM me if I did wrong?

Wastrel
09-19-06, 21:48
...just wondering why I got moved to Off-topic? First post and all, so learning, but I thought that was very much on-topic and suitable for general reports?I was wondering the same thing. Seems nicely on topic to me, and I wondered why you thought it was "off-topic." In the past few months there've been several very well done informative reports by visitors to the Strip from guys with five posts or less, and taken together they could pretty much be used as a guidebook to how it works in the resort corridor.

So you were attempting to post in a different thread, and it got moved? Possible it could have been a weird accident when the post was put through by admin. Once in a while strange things happen that way on this board when new member's posts are held for review. I remember someone's first or second post once showing up in Las Vegas General Reports with descriptions of interesting cheap streetwalker possibilities that many locals here were eager to hit, but on streets nobody could find in parts of town nobody heard of. Finally figured out those streets were in Cleveland, Ohio and the report somehow got put over here. Hope nobody burned too much gas trying to hook up with them.

Oh yeah, that Cleveland guy's legit post showed up here under someone else's screen name, who was understandably annoyed and puzzled about how to answer the "where in Vegas is that" questions he got, because he didn't write it. So, it could've been worse.

Bolt Shooter
09-20-06, 08:01
So you were attempting to post in a different thread, and it got moved? That's about it. Although I can never rule out my own incompetence as a possible explanation.

You make a good point though. I was typing away thinking "what's the point in writing this for someone who lives there and knows more than I do?"

Most of the senior posters seem to be in the jackson category rather than benjys on the centre strip, so quite possibly I have more "hands on" knowledge.

The worst mistake I have seen from past reports is people paying $$$+ you really don't need to when you realise that they need to do the deal more than you do, so you hold teh trump cards in the negotiation. Some do hold out for "Japanese tourist" money earlier in the evening, but by 3 a.m most will accept your offer of a "going home ride" for $$. ANd if she won't, her sister will.

Wastrel
09-20-06, 13:04
Most of the senior posters seem to be in the jackson category rather than benjys on the centre strip, so quite possibly I have more "hands on" knowledge.Yes, I think that's probably right. I often think some astute visitors are better situated than most locals to report on the resort corridor. The Las Vegas board naturally gets a lot of visitors looking in with questions compared to others, it is not intuitively obvious how one should construct a search to ferret out Strip specific information, and locals can get weary and not necessarily be the best choice to guide them. How many people want to go hundreds or thousands of miles to spend their time in search of a common everday twenty dollar street girl? I can think of exactly two, and one of them quit. And how many locals routinely spread hundred dollar bills around on a daily or weekly basis with the crowds in neon fantasy land on South LV Blvd? Not very many.

Whatever someone is fixing to sell, if you want to sell it to Las Vegans, the usual priorities of most Vegas locals are generally: price, parking, and portions, in that order. If the average local is gonna buy something it's got to be really cheap, it's got to be easy to get into, and whatever it is there had damn well better be a whole heaping lot of it. It doesn't have to be all that good, just lots of it that's cheap and easy.

I think it is perfectly natural that someone travelling a long distance on their precious vacation will seek different experiences in different places than those who are around town all the time. Even though a lot of locals will go play on the Strip with the tourists now and then, they tend to see things from a different point of view and probably have different priorities than most visitors even when they do that.

It might be a useful public service if someone wanted to take the time to search out half a dozen or so of the informative CG reports scattered around here for the past several years (they are generally not very time sensitive) and link to them as a 'read this first' guide.

Bolt Shooter
09-20-06, 15:15
It might be a useful public service if someone wanted to take the time to search out half a dozen or so of the informative CG reports scattered around here for the past several years (they are generally not very time sensitive) and link to them as a 'read this first' guide.I could probably bullet it for you on the spot - if it is deemed to be at the right level then by all means let one of the mods move it/link it.

1. There is usually a direct correlation between the quality of hotel and the quality/price of the girls working them, although cross-traffic clearly exists.
2. From time to time, some casinos seem to have a purge on CGs, but mostly it is omnipresent and tolerated.

3. Things are easiest in the hotel you are staying. Although many will accompany you back elsewhere, some will not/cannot leave the hotel they are in, or are barred from yours etc.

4. Just about any video poker bar is fair hunting ground, young attractive girls on their own drinking cocktails and with nothing other than a tiny clutch bag and cell are heavily odds on to be working.

5. No need to embarrass yourself, just sit down right next to one you like the look of and order a drink - play a twenty on the video poker and the drink is free, this will also give you a window to chat in. Unless your radar is seriously amiss, within 2 minutes she will start up the small talk which will very quickly include a)where are you staying b)are you alone? c)would you like company?

6. Next comes the LE game which I am dreadful at - so someone else had better fill in. I doubt there are many stings inside strip casinos, but rumours of them do exist.

7. When you are satisfied it is all ok, the negotiation starts. Have a clear idea of how much you think it is worth and how much you are prepared to go to at a push. If you don't get anywhere near, move on. Some girls even try saying "I get $1k" hoping you offer her half or more. If you do you will be up in an elevator quicker than you can blink. I usually start out with something like "well that's tempting, but I am just not used to paying Las Vegas prices." Try and get her to realise that you are overstretching and doing the best you can to rustle up the second benjy.
8. Back to the room, (security on the elevators know the score, its the 4th time they have wished her good night that night, but aren't going to make a scene if you don't) she may well text a friend your room number for safety. I sometimes get a bit paranoid that when she leaves I could well be getting a kicking, but all seems ok so far.

9. There are no valuables on display (are there?) because you knew you would be out hobbying and you have used the safe appropriately. Don't eat or drink anything - I have heard of roll over drug tricks but no one I know of has had it happen to them, but to be on the safe side.
10. Have some fun.

11. She will probably want extra money for smokes/slots/tip/cab ride etc but you have avoided this by making sure you have negotiated an all in price beforehand, so she gets nothing other than a wave goodbye. To protect myself against poor attitude, if for example the negotiation is stuck at my $$ -v- her $$.5 and if I am happy to yield I will probably say "Lets do $$ and if you give good service I will give you the extra fifty.

12. Absolute A league is $$$. Not perhaps at 11pm but she will be a few hours later, if you don't mind stirring someone else's porridge that paid $$$$$ an hour earlier.
'Perfectly reasonable' is there to be had for $$ although you may have to stand your ground for a while to get it. If you get the feeling you have pushed too far, it probably isn't worth going upstairs with someone who hates you already.
In some of the worst joints on the strip, $ will get you a no frills service, just perhaps not your first choice of provider.

Wastrel
09-22-06, 23:13
The meaning of this will be incomprehensible to all but a few astute locals who are also well versed in the town's, ah, let's say colorful, history, or maybe a couple of transplanted former locals, or maybe one, but for those who do recognize the significance of these names this little item is just way too amazing not to post:

Strip club has new suitor

A local restaurateur has applied for a new permit to serve liquor at the now-closed Crazy Horse Too Gentlemen's Club.

Michael Signorelli, operator of the Golden Steer Steakhouse, submitted the application Tuesday...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Sep-22-Fri-2006/news/9803018.html

When was the last time you heard of the Golden Steer? And now here it is today in connection with Rizzolo, no less. Do you think they would actually serve food to, ahem, a civilian so to speak, if one naively walked in and asked for a menu? And let him leave? I've just got to go in some time and give it a try. Maybe if I'm really brave (a.k.a. really drunk and stupid) I'll ask if I can take a snapshot of their historic collection of baseball bats in the back room, and see if that doesn't get me a short one way free ride in the trunk of someone's car.

A restauranteur. And Tony the Ant was a home improvement inspector and freelance financial consultant before he relocated to retire as a corn farmer.

Cienega32
09-23-06, 06:27
Well I'll be - the CHII closed down... ;)



I thought maybe Hizzona was out of town untill I read about the FedRico rap. But hey - it'll all look good on paper if Siggy gets placed. The new-necks that patronize won't know any better about them doing an Archie Bunker on the lease.

You're being too hard on Anthony. He was merely a gift shop operator who specialized in employee relocation and minor commercial renovations.


Thanks for the great link! Amazing, indeed.

Norman Stormin
10-01-06, 12:46
[QUOTE=Wastrel]The meaning of this will be incomprehensible to all but a few astute locals who are also well versed in the town's, ah, let's say colorful, history, or maybe a couple of transplanted former locals, or maybe one, but for those who do recognize the significance of these names this little item is just way too amazing not to post:

Michael Signorelli, operator of the Golden Steer Steakhouse, submitted the application Tuesday...[/i]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Sep-22-Fri-2006/news/9803018.html

When was the last time you heard of the Golden Steer? And now here it is today in connection with Rizzolo, no less.

I heard the GOLDEN EAGLE (corner of Paradise and Sahara) and former sister organization of the GOLDEN STEER lost its gaming license for money laundering and drug related activities.

I'm sure though, Mr Signorelli was in no way related to that revelation.

Wastrel
10-08-06, 18:43
I trust y'all will recongnize why I didn't put this in a topic/report thread. Least I hope so.

Local Prostitutes Eagerly Await Dentists' Convention

LAS VEGAS–With the New Jersey Dental Association's annual convention less than one week away, excitement is building among the city's prostitutes.

The four-day event, which will bring some 1,500 New Jersey dentist-johns to the Las Vegas MGM Grand Hotel, is expected to pump an estimated $75,000 into the local streetwalking economy.

"This is the big one," pimp Marlon "The Pearl" Evans said...

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28699

Wastrel
11-03-06, 08:45
http://www.lasvegassun.com/stardust/

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/consumer/2006/nov/01/566650764.html

http://www.lasvegastalk.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=33489

Cienega32
11-05-06, 03:14
As saddening as it was, thank you very much for posting those links. I just finished the Sun's slideshow and I am not ashamed to say that my eyes are a bit teary. I wish I could've made it back before this heartbreaking (for me) event.

I always thought that the lighting on the new tower - those floods up the front - were the sharpest thing in town.

What I wouldn't do for 10 sq ft of sports book carpet and one of those old blue chairs. Preferably the one with my ass-print in it.....

Wastrel
11-05-06, 04:39
C, I was wondering if you might have been there when I was wandering around the joint on that last night.

But...
What I wouldn't do for 10 sq ft of sports book carpet and one of those old blue chairs. Preferably the one with my ass-print in it........you're in luck:

Stardust Hotel & Casino - 5-Day On Site/Webcast Auction

When: 11:00 AM PST, Friday November 17

Inspection: Monday, November 13th - Thursday, November 16th each day from 9:00am with the exception of Wednesday, 9:00am - 2:00pm.

Where: 3000 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Las Vegas, NV

Contact: Heidi Reager at 818-884-3737 ext. 340 or email at: hreager@greatamerican.com

Please Note: This will be a 5-day Auction: November 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. Auction will commence each day at 11:00am. Payment options: Cash, Cashier's Check, Certified Funds, and Bank Wire Transfer. VISA and MasterCard will also be accepted. There will be no deposit required to attend or participate for this auction.

http://www.greatamerican.com/Services/auctions.aspx

They're selling it ALL, right down to the pots and pans and barstools and pictures on the walls and half dead palm trees and definitely including the sports book chair you've carefully molded to yourself over the years. If it doesn't kill you to look at it, you can see pictures of every stitch of it catalogued for the auction at the website.

Personally, I'm not ashamed to say I pilfered everything distinctly Dusty I could manage to remove without getting arrested (barely) before they locked the doors. Which unfortunately was not nearly half of what I'd like to have to turn my home into a Stardust shrine.

Cienega32
11-05-06, 15:00
Item number 267/268 it is then.

Hell, I think I'm going. Man, that would be outstanding to have a desk section and a couple of chairs sitting on a piece of 'Dusty rug. The ambience of 'The Office' has been lacking every week this season and I feel it has affected a few of my investment choices.

And at least if I did have a desk section I could finally replace the damn lite that always seemed to be out where ever I sat...

I wonder if that idiot J.J Walker is part of the sports book auction? I would bid on him only to be able to slap the piss out of him and leave him on the curb.

THANKS!

Cienega32
11-27-06, 03:36
Now if I could only figure out how to get this stuff off the UHaul...

Vegas Black
12-14-06, 01:18
Has anybody had any luck in locating a spanish whorehouse? All these illegal mexicans in vegas have to be gettting their rocks off from somewhere.
Be safe out there..............

Big Blue
12-16-06, 15:14
Since I have little to offer this board (I'm a tourist heading to Vegas), I thought I'd contribute what I can.

If any of you are heading to British Columbia, an excellent resource similar to this board is the Pacific Escort Review Board (http://perb.ca/)

By the way, this is a great board (well organized, good format, excellent info)

Thanks, guys! :)

Cienega32
12-16-06, 18:56
During my first return since moving in Feb, I stayed at 3 different places and thought I would post some basic info.

I'm a motel type of guy. I like to be able to go from the vehicle to the room with minimal effort. My plan was a week, at the most but that turned into 10 days because of logistics with the Stardust auction that I faithfully attended daily.

The first week I stayed at Town and Country III down Boulder Hwy just south of Nevada Palace. I had stayed there for a couple days on my way out of town in the spring and thought it was OK. This time was for 1 week/7 days. The cost was $227 - tax included - for a 1 bedroom "suite". I had stayed in a "studio there the last time. The difference, other than being $10 more, is the wall between the living area and the bedroom. A studio has a counter/cut out and the TV sits on that. A 1 bed doesn't. That means no TV viewing while in bed.

The rooms have a full-size kitchen but no coffee maker. Think small apartment. A Walgreens down the road has 4-cup coffe makers for 9 bucks, coffee and stuff. If you don't need daily maid service or a 24 hour front desk then this is a good place. At $33 bucks a day it's a nice, quiet, clean and comfortable place. 24 hour laundry on-site and phone-port internet access. Of course, it is off the beaten path of the strip but for someone like me, who has no problem with that - it works great. It's also in the middle of the two strolls on The Rock.

My activities were, more or less, limited to the AAMPs but I did keep an eye out for the SWs. Naturaly, with my luck, the activity was nill during my stay there but I wasn't looking all that hard.

After the week was up, I shifted over to the Orleans. At this time I was using a UHaul as well as a RAC so the parking was good for me and it was right down the street from my storage areas that I was retrieving. The usual inflated holiday rates kicked in my 2nd day but the first day was $60 for a nice spacious comfortable room, overlooking the pool area and with a complete work desk area. Simple security key-desk - flash your key and ride the elevator.

After getting fully loaded with my storage and the Stardust auction items, I decided one more nite would be the thing to do before the 700 mile drive. The King 8, rather the Wild Wild West, was the choice for various reasons - truck parking, outside room access, sentimentality, etc. Friday after Thanksgiving was $100 a nite. I could've worked it to a truckers rate thru people I knew that still worked there but what the hell. As I told the front desk girl - there will never be a room on that property that's woth $100. Never. This place has seen its day come and gone - if it even had a day to claim as its own. Hell, it was shot 20 years ago when I worked there. You can feel the room's floor bow in the middle from the years. The $19.95 that's on the sign seems about right - maybe.

What got me was that while coming down Trop, the SWs were out in force. My chosen room was closet to the SW corner of the prop and looking at the west lot so as to view the SW action and my rented truck. Lots of reports of stolen rental trucks over that month. As soon as I checked in and got settled - not a soul on the sidewalks. Figures. Being with a 17' UHaul, a walk-in BJ would've been nice and now nothing to be found. Boo hoo hoo.

So the moral of the story is both times that I 'lodged' there on the common strolls, I saw nothing. In the Spring I stayed at one of the dives on Industrial where they were beating a path in the sidewalk and nothing. This time the Wild West - same thing. I can;t win...

BUT the Town and Country was a nice place and real reasonable in price for the week, if you don't need the amenities like maid service. Parking can be tight at times. Orleans - nice and comfy and seems to be without any problem at the key desk. I didn't even break stride - just held up the key, got the nod and was on my way.

I didn't bring my laptop so I can't comment on the Internet access at either T&C or Orleans.

Guady1
12-22-06, 13:34
You know, I was doing some thinking about the day in the life of a hooker.

If a girl does one guy a day, at $$$, which is common to me, and she only works 5 days a week (ho's deserve a regular schedule too.) Lets see:

I believe that is 1500/week, times 4, a cool 6 G's a month, not bad. That comes
to what? 72K/year, without tax! I think these ladies have it good.

Now this is being conservative. She can choose who she wants to be with, she really isn't working until she does the deed-which lasts less than an hour.

I have seen women so beautiful and perfect, you would knock everybody out the way to get to her, how much could she be making?

This was just a thought of how good these ladies (less pimp) have. It must be greed that does them all in.

Speck
12-22-06, 20:15
They do pay taxes:

The "I'm retarded" and pay WAY too much for things tax.

The "pimp gonna beat me down" tax.

The "I gotta bail out" tax

And my fav "pimp need new bling" tax.



You know, I was doing some thinking about the day in the life of a hooker.

If a girl does one guy a day, at $$$, which is common to me, and she only works 5 days a week (ho's deserve a regular schedule too.) Lets see:

I believe that is 1500/week, times 4, a cool 6 G's a month, not bad. That comes
to what? 72K/year, without tax! I think these ladies have it good.

Now this is being conservative. She can choose who she wants to be with, she really isn't working until she does the deed-which lasts less than an hour.

I have seen women so beautiful and perfect, you would knock everybody out the way to get to her, how much could she be making?

This was just a thought of how good these ladies (less pimp) have. It must be greed that does them all in.

Vegas Black
12-22-06, 21:01
If a girl does one guy a day, at $$$, which is common to me, and she only works 5 days a week (ho's deserve a regular schedule too.) Lets see:

I believe that is 1500/week, times 4, a cool 6 G's a month, not bad. That comes
to what? 72K/year, without tax! I think these ladies have it good.

You have to remember you are dealing with females. If they are truly independent meaning no agency or pimp, most likely over 2/3's of their money is being blown on drugs, shopping,beauty parlor, or kids or just plain spending it like crazy.
Females are not good on saving/investing their money and letting it work for them. Put cash in a chicks hand and she makes a beeline straight to the mall.
Be safe out there...............

PsyberZombie
12-23-06, 10:10
The Week·End Warriors make a good living , but the REAL money in Vegas is in Stripping =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=311812&postcount=2199


That book Skin City is an excellent read & I highly recommend it to any·one who has even
a passing inner·rest in the LV Sex Industry

Guady1
12-23-06, 14:06
You know, I was doing some thinking about the day in the life of a hooker.
This was just a thought of how good these ladies (less pimp) have. It must be greed that does them all in.


Like I said, "less pimp" or without pimp.

I just thought about how good a woman, who is in control of her life, can make such easy money, a life we men wish we could lead.

PsyberZombie is right about the amount of money to be made is more in stripping but some women are too modest for that.

Fact is, these women in vegas are making mad money, what they do with it or how they manage it is another thing.

A few years back, I had a lot of money and blew alot of it, because I didn't know how to act with all that money. I spent most of it on lavish trips, I couldn't help making myself look rich when I visited foreign countries.

Hey, you have to enjoy life. If I were a stud, and could get women to PAY
me, what a life that would be. That is all I was saying about these women here. They can choose who they want, they can pace themselves and have a decent life. Have any of you guys ever been to India, where those poor girls have to work in a dirty room, screw 20 guys a day, for little or nothing.

All I can say is find your niche and go with it. I see a lot of girls "ridin high".

Vegas Black
01-01-07, 20:02
Has anybody had any luck in locating a spanish whorehouse? All these illegal mexicans in vegas have to be gettting their rocks off from somewhere.
Be safe out there..............

Got a tip this past xmas weekend, there might be a couple of houses in the area of eastern/washington/bonanza and near carey/pecos. As soon as i get verification i'll update. most likley these houses are being run by people in the mexican mafia and ms13 gangs, so i doubt they are kosher like asian houses.
Be safe out there.............

Bonesamp
02-05-07, 13:48
When in the act, is it customary to release inside and in condom or pull out, remove and manually release?

Speck
02-05-07, 23:50
When in the act, is it customary to release inside and in condom or pull out, remove and manually release?

In the condom usually. I suppose if you wanna screw with the girl you can pull out and splooge all over her, but you risk a kick to the nuts.

Muggs
05-16-07, 01:29
Hey guys,

I was talking with a fellow from San Francisco. We were talking about the different races of women. He says he really likes the Asian chicks more. But he made an interesting statement that i found somewhat true, but was unsure about his reasoning.

He says Asian women tend to have less odor in the genital area compared to other women. Why? Because they have less sweat glands. He says, he's been with Asian women who were sweaty from the gym and the cooch still was odorless or smelt like spring water.

The few Asian chicks i've been with didn't have an odor...but all women don't at some point.

Your thoughts?

Cienega32
05-16-07, 05:14
The few Asian chicks i've been with didn't have an odor...but all women don't at some point.

Your thoughts?That's one reason why I love them Asian gals! Perhpas I've just been lucky but I have yet to find one that wasn't that way.

I always thought it to be because of their diet. All the ones I've known were big fruit eaters and low in the red meat thing. An "friend" from years back taught me that the fruit thing affect the taste of a man's cum. Less red meat and more fruits like pineapples and she was a happy camper!

There was one that had a slight odor - nothing putrid - but not the same as the sweet nector I was used to. She was older than the rest, a big coffee drinker and loved hamburgers.

Lip Licker
05-16-07, 05:34
Hey guys,

I was talking with a fellow from San Francisco. We were talking about the different races of women. He says he really likes the Asian chicks more. But he made an interesting statement that i found somewhat true, but was unsure about his reasoning.

He says Asian women tend to have less odor in the genital area compared to other women. Why? Because they have less sweat glands. He says, he's been with Asian women who were sweaty from the gym and the cooch still was odorless or smelt like spring water.

The few Asian chicks i've been with didn't have an odor...but all women don't at some point.

Your thoughts?

I personally think smell is determined by diet and hygiene. I've noticed that most girls tend to smell more if they eat a lot of red meats compared to those who have a lower meat/red meat intake. Black and Indian(from India) girls tend to smell more musky due to the types of spices in the foods they eat. I've also noticed that many Asian Nationals in general do not smell and aren't that used to using deoderant/perfumes/colognes as it is usually not necessary due to good hygienic practices and the generally clean diet they normally are used to. When they come to the US and start eating fast food/american style foods they begin to reek with bad body odor within a few days.

Of course, there are the girls who have yeast infections and/or are just unclean and their pussy can range from the infamous "smells like fish" to a smell so bad you lose your appetite...and sometimes your dinner.

I've noticed that a lot of the higher quality working girls(SW's, AMP girls, strippers) have little or no smell and I am assuming it is because they constantly douche or wash between sessions. I have heard differing options from girls on whether this helps or hurts as it changes the pH levels in the cootch and can promote bacterial/fungal growth leading to the really bad smells.

As far as Asian girls having less sweat glands, I'm not too sure on that one, sounds like one of those racist rumours from back in the day. Less body hair, definitely. White girls and some black girls have a light fuzz all over the body that you can't see until you touch them and I am assuming that can add to the bacterial growth that would add to odor.

PWhipped
05-16-07, 09:23
Correct!! Fruit and vegi diet with not much red meat and a lot of fish is the main reason. The other, a very clean inviroment. I see post and hear tails about AMP's being unclean and such, BAH. I have found that they are the cleanest places to frequent. But the sweet smell and taste is from Diet.

I have a Latin GF that eats fish almost every day and no red meat and she is the sweetest tasting thing ol PW has ever tasted. OH ME, I gotta go , thinking of her has me aroused.(grin)

And yes, too many douches can cause problems.

I have never found a smelly cooch with an asian, except once or twice detected a little urine smell, but PW has a very sensitive nose and I smell things that others do not or can't. True, not making that up. Odors really bother me, slightly sour clothing, UGH, and others cannot detect it, but I do.

Happy mongering out there, back in my hole on the east (grin)

Wet Dreams to all, PW






Hey guys,

I was talking with a fellow from San Francisco. We were talking about the different races of women. He says he really likes the Asian chicks more. But he made an interesting statement that i found somewhat true, but was unsure about his reasoning.

He says Asian women tend to have less odor in the genital area compared to other women. Why? Because they have less sweat glands. He says, he's been with Asian women who were sweaty from the gym and the cooch still was odorless or smelt like spring water.

The few Asian chicks i've been with didn't have an odor...but all women don't at some point.

Your thoughts?

NewOldGuy
05-16-07, 10:18
Hey guys,

I was talking with a fellow from San Francisco. We were talking about the different races of women. He says he really likes the Asian chicks more. But he made an interesting statement that i found somewhat true, but was unsure about his reasoning.

He says Asian women tend to have less odor in the genital area compared to other women. Why? Because they have less sweat glands. He says, he's been with Asian women who were sweaty from the gym and the cooch still was odorless or smelt like spring water.

The few Asian chicks i've been with didn't have an odor...but all women don't at some point.

Your thoughts?I was in the military in Taipei back in 69-71. Was crazy about the chinese girls. Must have had 150 dates with girls from clubs, bars, and MPs(AMPs of course), all 30yo or less. Other than occasional bad breath, not an odor about them.

Another thing that got my attention was very little underarm and leg hair. Not long after I got there I asked one how often she shaved her legs, because they were very smooth. She replied "I don't shave my legs, what do you think I am, a monkey?".

happyhumpin'

nog

Lip Licker
05-17-07, 07:14
I was in the military in Taipei back in 69-71. Was crazy about the chinese girls. Must have had 150 dates with girls from clubs, bars, and MPs(AMPs of course), all 30yo or less. Other than occasional bad breath, not an odor about them.

Another thing that got my attention was very little underarm and leg hair. Not long after I got there I asked one how often she shaved her legs, because they were very smooth. She replied "I don't shave my legs, what do you think I am, a monkey?".

happyhumpin'

nog

LOL, I didn't want to say it earlier but since NOG touched on it, yeah, Chinese girls tend to have a higher incidence of bad breath than other asian girls. Korean AMP girls I have encountered tend to, more often than not, have that garlic smelling breath(but clean smelling pussies).

I also have a sensitive sense of smell and it can really affect the mood for me, so I know EXACTLY what PWhipped is talking about. I usually can get past that slight urine smell(if it is light) and notice that once her juices start flowing and/or I've licked her enough it is not that distracting(I also try not to breathe in through my nose as much while eating which I found helps a lot). Strange how bad breath is harder for me to get over. I'll eat a slightly smelly cootch but can't get myself to DFK even the hottest chick if she has even mildly bad breath.

Muggs
05-17-07, 18:57
The regular I see in Vegas is odor free as well. On many occasions, i've had the opportunity to get a whiff and nothing....just spring water

Been with a few other Asian chicks in my 30 something odd years....never experienced and odor.

Teddy Bear 99
06-09-07, 06:35
I am coming to Vegas for the first time and will be staying at the Sahara. Are there shuttles from the airport to take you to the hotels on the strip or do you need to take a taxi? I don't want to rent a car, because of everything I read I can walk to or take the monorail and be there in 15 minutes or so.

Thanks for the help

Member #4558
06-09-07, 09:28
I am coming to Vegas for the first time and will be staying at the Sahara. Are there shuttles from the airport to take you to the hotels on the strip or do you need to take a taxi? I don't want to rent a car, because of everything I read I can walk to or take the monorail and be there in 15 minutes or so.

Thanks for the helpThere are a couple of taxis at the airport :) Just take one of them. No need for a shuttle.

Looking #1
06-09-07, 11:53
I am coming to Vegas for the first time and will be staying at the Sahara. Are there shuttles from the airport to take you to the hotels on the strip or do you need to take a taxi? I don't want to rent a car, because of everything I read I can walk to or take the monorail and be there in 15 minutes or so.

Thanks for the help

Yes there are several shuttles from the airport to all casino hotels. The doors are clearly marked by the bagage pick-up. The monorail is very unreliable but the bus called the duece go up and down the strip.

Butters98
06-09-07, 14:01
I am coming to Vegas for the first time and will be staying at the Sahara. Are there shuttles from the airport to take you to the hotels on the strip or do you need to take a taxi? I don't want to rent a car, because of everything I read I can walk to or take the monorail and be there in 15 minutes or so.

Thanks for the helpOne thing to remember if walking the strip, the hotels look a lot closer than they are. And walk from the Saraha to MGM or Mandalay Bay is a decent stroll, especially if it's hot.

I've always found it better to rent a cheap car for $20-25 a day, and it's usually just a few dollars more than a cab ride from/to hotel/airport.

Speck
06-09-07, 18:07
One thing to remember if walking the strip, the hotels look a lot closer than they are. And walk from the Saraha to MGM or Mandalay Bay is a decent stroll, especially if it's hot.

I've always found it better to rent a cheap car for $20-25 a day, and it's usually just a few dollars more than a cab ride from/to hotel/airport.

Yeah, the walk from Sahara to anything is butt far. You have a monorail station there though.

KC Questor
06-09-07, 21:12
And remember that parking is free at every casino. Cars are cheap and a single taxi ride can easily cost as much as a full day rental. The monorail is only $8 for a day pass in the summer, but it doesn't go everywhere.

Teddy Bear 99
06-16-07, 05:48
After doing some more research, I guess I will rent a car. I will still do some walking since it seems you can catch a girl while walking on these bridges.

Cienega32
06-16-07, 14:33
After doing some more research, I guess I will rent a car. I will still do some walking since it seems you can catch a girl while walking on these bridges.
Myself, I think that's your best bet. It's not like downtown Miami with the people movers, trains, etc. going all around everything. In other words the public trans sucks and can be very limiting. The monorail is pretty much in the far back of few casinos, shuts down late at night (midnite, I think?) and, I think, would be a pain in the ass, in the long run.

Besides, with a car you have so much more freedom to do what you want (Red Rock, Lake Mead, cruise "The Rock", etc) at any time of day or nite and you can just shuttle right over to pick one up after your in-flight and be on your way.

It might've just been my luck but on the couple of returns to Las Vegas, while I was moving, it always seemed like I was the last drop-off on whatever hotel shuttle I took. A pain in the ass, after sitting in a plane for awhile.

Zman429
06-16-07, 16:28
Myself, I think that's your best bet. It's not like downtown Miami with the people movers, trains, etc. going all around everything. In other words the public trans sucks and can be very limiting. The monorail is pretty much in the far back of few casinos, shuts down late at night (midnite, I think?) and, I think, would be a pain in the ass, in the long run.

Besides, with a car you have so much more freedom to do what you want (Red Rock, Lake Mead, cruise "The Rock", etc) at any time of day or nite and you can just shuttle right over to pick one up after your in-flight and be on your way.

It might've just been my luck but on the couple of returns to Las Vegas, while I was moving, it always seemed like I was the last drop-off on whatever hotel shuttle I took. A pain in the ass, after sitting in a plane for awhile.I've seen girls by the monorail entrance at Sahara. Anyhow, cars require lot of back and forth walking if you're just on strip monorail is quick and cheap with pass. Taxis are quick and easy and about $10 to strip casinos. These days I'the just get a car if I knew I was going off strip and it's easy to get a car at most hotels anyhow. Deuce is another option if you have time and don't want to walk. I used to get a car and have gone to taxis, got to my hotel in 20 min last time which beats the 90 min it took me last time with center and all.

Cienega32
06-16-07, 20:21
Zman - good points.

I'm still not very well-versed at being a fly-in tourist to Las Vegas, having only moved from there 1.5 years ago and I still prefer to drive the 700 miles (at this point). I guess that would translate to me being 'unqualified to comment' but if just locking down on the strip, I guess there are a few trans options. The last time (many years back) I took a weekend strip bus, it took me over an hour to go from the Barbary to the Stardust and it still leaves a sour taste for me.

My problem is in still thinking like a local with the shortcuts and "other options" available by car and seem to stay off-strip when I go back.

Sam the Man
07-01-07, 20:13
Interested in knowing how many of you amateur photographers would be interested in hiring a las vegas 7-10 to take bikini, semi-nude, and nude pictures.

I have recently been asked by some photographer professionals to help scout out talent. It turns out there are a lot of girls looking for work in Vegas and not only are they hot, but they have few inhibitions.

I know some of you really like taking pictures and that the escorts etc aren't always into that.

I'm not talking about a front for an escort service or anything like that. I'm talking about a legit opportunity to pull out the camera and get some great pictures.

Please pm me with your thoughts.

PsyberZombie
07-13-07, 15:48
From last October =►

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393665&postcount=106


.... and now there's *this* , from the Jimmy Kimmel Show =►


" It was 194 degrees in Las Vegas today. All over town, women have been forced to take off their clothes and rub their bodies against cold metal poles just to survive. "

Cienega32
08-07-07, 05:55
Going back a few years with our own beloved Tony The Ant, here's a little excerpt from the Calabrese "Family Secrets"

http://www.suntimes.com/news/mob/475100,CST-NWS-mob19.article

The home page for that series is on the left toolbar. It's an interesting read into probably the last big 'old school' way of things inside "This thing of ours".


http://blogs.suntimes.com/mob/

Vegas Black
08-14-07, 18:03
anybody recommond any good cheap motels along fremont/boulder that are a jackson or cheaper.
that dude at the 49er now wants .30.

Speck
08-14-07, 23:32
anybody recommond any good cheap motels along fremont/boulder that are a jackson or cheaper.
that dude at the 49er now wants .30.

I don't know that it helps, but Sams Town is now $27 a night during the upcomming week.

Vegas Black
08-15-07, 19:46
Sams is too risky cuz i live here in vegas, somebody might see me at the desk or cruising thru the lobby with some sw. I prefer the small motels where you can pull right up in front of the room incognito.

PsyberZombie
09-02-07, 08:03
New reality TV show about to premier that offers an inside look at LV's criminal
underbelly , where our SW girls live & die => SIN CITY LAW ('http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070828/ap_en_tv/ap_on_tv_sin_city_law')

ThePlayer
09-11-07, 12:14
I was in Fry's yesterday and they now sell adult movies. Most of them were around $30. It's a section right in the middle of the regular DVD's and roped off.

ThePlayer

Vegas Black
09-23-07, 00:38
They having that balloonapalooza thing in north las vegas up on craig rd this weekend.
I took the wife and kids there this afternoon. Guess what happens..........i'am walking around holding one of my sons hand, the wife is a few steps behind me holding my other kid hand. This chick named jill that was a regular for me 2 years ago that i have not seen since cuz she disappeared, spots me and approaches me. Like a idiot she doesnt see my kid and realize this is a bad time. She approaches me and calls my name.

When she approaches me, i give her the look "You say one word i will kill you" look. She says hi and i introduce her to the wife as a lady that works in one of the offices i frequent for my job. After the intro The lightbulb goes on over her head and it dawns on her what is going on and she plays along. We did the small talk thing and she moved on.

Anybody else ever get in a situation like that with these silly SW's?

Muggs
09-23-07, 09:52
They having that balloonapalooza thing in north las vegas up on craig rd this weekend.
I took the wife and kids there this afternoon. Guess what happens..........i'am walking around holding one of my sons hand, the wife is a few steps behind me holding my other kid hand. This chick named jill that was a regular for me 2 years ago that i have not seen since cuz she disappeared, spots me and approaches me. Like a idiot she doesnt see my kid and realize this is a bad time. She approaches me and calls my name.

When she approaches me, i give her the look "You say one word i will kill you" look. She says hi and i introduce her to the wife as a lady that works in one of the offices i frequent for my job. After the intro The lightbulb goes on over her head and it dawns on her what is going on and she plays along. We did the small talk thing and she moved on.

Anybody else ever get in a situation like that with these silly SW's?

Happened to me too man! Only thing is, I was with co-workers. We are taking a small lunch break at popeyes on Sahara. In comes, Sue (from the adjoining Terrible store) and starts talking to me and calling me by my monger name. Fortunately, we were in line, so I was able to quickly divert the conversation while drifting off from the line with her. As we are drifting, I'm talking enough so they can hear me....with the "haven't seen you in a while my dear", "how has life been?"....not giving her much time to respond.

When we get away from the group near the soda machines...I tell her I cannot talk, and she understood (whew!). Told her to give me her number, and I will call. I gave her a "nice to see you friend" hug and we move one.

Thankfully my co-workers were dense headed. One did say, why did she call you jason? I responded, she said "hey son"...since she calls me "son". Straight bullshit...but as I said...they were dense headed.

np2112
10-06-07, 22:03
R.I.P. Figured this was a little off-topic, but wanted to mention it. I may come off as some obsessed psycho stalker, but her death really got to me for some reason. Wholly preventable and tragic. Might have been her sweet disposition bringing out the 'Gotta save her' mentality that is entirely useless when dealing with girls in any business that has to do with sex. But I still wish I could have tried. Oh well. Chico Wang, watch your back.

KC Questor
10-07-07, 03:39
R.I.P. Figured this was a little off-topic, but wanted to mention it. I may come off as some obsessed psycho stalker, but her death really got to me for some reason. Wholly preventable and tragic. Might have been her sweet disposition bringing out the 'Gotta save her' mentality that is entirely useless when dealing with girls in any business that has to do with sex. But I still wish I could have tried. Oh well. Chico Wang, watch your back.

For those who hadn't heard: AVN News report (http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objectid=5D8E6524-FDD6-B025-FD8792704A7AB8C1)

Chico is a total pig. Ruined Anabolic/Diabolic for me. He always seemed to be at the front of the whole "degrading the women" act. Obviously he didn't invent it, but he was right there with the slapping and the name-calling and all the rest of his crap.

http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/wanker_wang.htm

Bamadawg
10-26-07, 01:24
Some guy posted on the General Board that he is quiting because he got arrested, made me realize that I don't know what is the routine or the routine I want versus what the they want. We've all see the cop shows where they read you Miranda and you can ask for counsel or walk out if they do not charge you but somehow I think that is not really how it goes. I figure worst case is I'm pumpimg a gal and cops break in and find narcs and accuse me of being the dealer just because they want to be a pain in my ass. Does someone around here has a link to a guide of how to best deal with such a situation?

Speck
10-26-07, 08:24
Some guy posted on the General Board that he is quiting because he got arrested, made me realize that I don't know what is the routine or the routine I want versus what the they want. We've all see the cop shows where they read you Miranda and you can ask for counsel or walk out if they do not charge you but somehow I think that is not really how it goes. I figure worst case is I'm pumpimg a gal and cops break in and find narcs and accuse me of being the dealer just because they want to be a pain in my ass. Does someone around here has a link to a guide of how to best deal with such a situation?

Here is my license and registration officer?

Am I under arrest officer?

If then answer is yes, STFU and say absolutely nothing no matter what. If the answer is no then:

"Am I free to leave?"

If the answer is yes, get your license and registration and get in your car and get the eff out of there. If the answer is no then:

"I don't want to talk to you". No matter what the cop says, your answer should remain "I don't want to talk to you".

There are slightly better responses if you have a good consistent story, but if you can't do the above, you won't be able to put together a good consistent story either. So the above answers are best until you figure out something better. The cop will probably be pissed. He will probably tell you something like "Look, just come clean. I'm big on being straight up. Let me know whats going on, you get a lecture, and you go home."

Well DO NOT BELEIVE IT! COPS CAN LEGALLY LIE TO YOU. ANYONE TELLING YOU OTHERWISE IS TOTALLY FOS. There will be roaches on this board that will scurry out in response to this post and demand that it is illegal for cops to lie to you. Bullcrap. It's not.

If you ever fess up to a line like the above...yes you will get to go home. You will also receive a misdemeanor citation for loitering with intent to solicit prostitution. Your statement to the cop is totally incriminating. If you say something like this:

You: Yeah, I picked her up for a BJ.

Officer: How much were you going to pay?

You: $30

Officer: Ok, sit tight.

A few minutes later, officer comes back.

Officer: Ok, I appreciate your honesty. For that reason, and that reason alone, you are going home tonight. Now what I need you to do is to sign here(shows you a citation book). Its not an admission of guilt. Its a promise to appear on the date on the citation.

And lo and behold, when you show up to court, your defense attorney is going to ask you what happened. You will tell him, he will groan, and attempt to get you the best plea bargain possible cause with the admission, there is no way in hell you are going to trial.

TJ-VB
10-26-07, 10:58
Speck is exactly right. This is how the dialog goes. I would also add something about consenting to search. Cops will generally ask:

"Are there any machines guns, grenades, rocket launchers in the car, anything like that that would be dangerous to me?"

You laughingly respond "No of course not!"

To which the officer replies "Mind if I take a quick look just for my own safety?"

The answer is "Sorry man but I don't consent to a search."

He'll try to convince you that he's just looking for his own safety, but insist on NO he may not search. It'll piss him off but it will protect you in case there are narcotics.

Now the real challenge in this case is a dumb girl. Cops usually break them in 10 seconds flat. There's pretty much nothing you can do except maintain your denial of a search and decline to answer any questions. Now, it's your word (upstanding citizen offering someone a ride) against hers (hooker repeatedly thrown in jail). If she admits having narcotics and says she left them in your door, sorry pal, your whole car will be searched.

So when you go out, leave EVERYTHING at home. It's legal to have a firearm, but I'd suggest you leave it at home. So it doesn't get stolen, used against you, or confiscated for investigation. Don't carry anything valuable that could be stolen. And please please please don't go out when you're drunk. You can quickly turn an innocent BJ into a DUI. Cash, keys, ID. That's it. You're just like any other guy out on the road going to buy cigarettes and fill up on gas.


Here is my license and registration officer?

Am I under arrest officer?

If then answer is yes, STFU and say absolutely nothing no matter what. If the answer is no then:

"Am I free to leave?"

If the answer is yes, get your license and registration and get in your car and get the eff out of there. If the answer is no then:

"I don't want to talk to you". No matter what the cop says, your answer should remain "I don't want to talk to you".

<snip>

Vegas Black
10-27-07, 00:02
Good advice, but that shit wont work if your skin color is darker than a brown paper bag. For the brothers like me, the best thing is too shut-up and just dont say shit, cuz they gonna get you on some BS regardless.
Be safe out there...........

Cienega32
12-01-07, 02:52
Looks like Google/WikiMapia updated their aerials for a post-Stardust view. You can still see a good portion of the main tower's foundation outline and the sign stubs are still present.

The area I find interesting is the controlled excavation where the sports book was...


http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=36.1343&lon=-115.164823&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

Cienega32
12-25-07, 04:37
I hope you all have a safe, happy and plentiful 'season of joy'.

Un Holy
12-26-07, 06:33
Anybody check out the nice asian cocktail server at the sea horse bar? She is tall and nice and my buddy informed me she is single and very friendly. Anybody try her?

Exotic Godiva
02-28-08, 03:12
I guess this guy had nothing else better to do than to contact me and tell me I was a liar in regards to a post I made. He obviously didn't read correctly because I was relaying information someone told me.
At first it upset me, but then I thought about it, and it now has me ROTFLMAO. Why? because it's hillarious that one is obviously that bitter to contact someone they don't even know and call them "a fucking liar"
ahhhh the things one must encounter in this life of hobbying and providing.
Another funny thing is he doesn't realize......no matter what he thinks of me, I'm still gonna make money and he doesnt matter.

Exotic Godiva
02-28-08, 14:26
I guess this guy had nothing else better to do than to contact me and tell me I was a liar in regards to a post I made. He obviously didn't read correctly because I was relaying information someone told me.
At first it upset me, but then I thought about it, and it now has me ROTFLMAO. Why? because it's hillarious that one is obviously that bitter to contact someone they don't even know and call them "a fucking liar"
ahhhh the things one must encounter in this life of hobbying and providing.
Another funny thing is he doesn't realize......no matter what he thinks of me, I'm still gonna make money and he doesnt matter.

And I guess he still has nothing better to do because he's still harrassing me. And it's come to my attention that this person is actually a regular member here who has made up a new screen name to remain anonymous hence the reason he has ZERO REPORTS. Normally, that would be smart, except for two things.
1. IP address can still be tracked
2. If you're going to create a new handle, the name shouldn't indicate that your handle is temporary, ROTFLMAO. (Sorry, I found that kind of hillarious)
Admin can you please check your inbox? Thanks

Exotic Godiva
02-28-08, 15:50
And I guess he still has nothing better to do because he's still harrassing me. And it's come to my attention that this person is actually a regular member here who has made up a new screen name to remain anonymous hence the reason he has ZERO REPORTS. Normally, that would be smart, except for two things.
1. IP address can still be tracked
2. If you're going to create a new handle, the name shouldn't indicate that your handle is temporary, ROTFLMAO. (Sorry, I found that kind of hillarious)
Admin can you please check your inbox? Thanks


Update:
No responses needed, I've spoken to admin and the situation has been handled.
Happy Hobbying to All!

Shanghai MJ
04-10-08, 13:51
Hi mongers,

So I'm in town again for a week and it's been a long business trip. I'm always traveling and have been burned out. I've picked up some WSW off Boulder but they all look so cracked out that I'd rather turn to some CL or CGs soon. I'd like to get my hands on some 420 and blue pills to make my nights more enjoyable.

I'm a good looking, 30 year old white/asian male. No problem picking up girls and wouldn't mind mongering with someone who's got more experience with local girls.

Let me know! Wiling to trade info on Shanghai! I've lived there on and off for the last 8 years. Best pussy in the world.

MJ

Magnod
04-16-08, 02:08
Nightclub Update

Hey,
Haven't been to Vegas in a couple of years. Any changes in the nightclub scene? I used to get bottle service at Tao, pick up some girls and hang there. But there's probably been new places that are good, that I don't know about. Any info is appreciated.
Thanks

Judisp2
04-16-08, 02:52
This is a late late late response but my own personal experience of that bar was very good (on 3 separate trips I now call it my lucky vegas bar). Though not with any of the hostesses. I honestly would not be shocked if some were negotiable.

If you clean up nice and can talk a little chat. I find that place to be an absolute goldmine (more ammo for those people thinking yes this guy is full of BS. I've been comped into Pure from there with 3 girls. The details escaped me. I probably paid $$$ for the whole night but had a blast. Maybe they knew what they were doing)

Anyway. I know this is the off topic section of the LAS but I guess this is a little more off topic.. I always recommend the sea horse to my friends as a drop in (though it is WAY WAY off the strip. Don't let the walkways fool you! )

Have fun, be safe, look on the side streets for parked with sitters.

Lotsoffun201
04-17-08, 07:24
Where is the sea horse bar? I have never heard of it

Mike 80
04-17-08, 07:42
It's inside Caesars. I guess when Judisp2 mentioned how it's "WAY WAY off the Strip" he's referring to the fact that if you're on foot it's still a pretty good hike from the Strip sidewalk to the bar, which is true.

Vegas Black
06-13-08, 15:26
Gas is averaging like $4.15 a Gallon. Shell is charging like $4.25.
Is Gas prices affecting your mongering? I remember like 7 years ago, I could put $5 in the tank and cruise forever. Nowadays $5 bucks wont even move the gas gauge in my car.

Anontip
06-13-08, 21:38
Gas is averaging like $4.15 a Gallon. Shell is charging like $4.25.
Is Gas prices affecting your mongering? I remember like 7 years ago, I could put $5 in the tank and cruise forever. Nowadays $5 bucks wont even move the gas gauge in my car.Even worse, da clinic is chargin $25 these days when I remember it used to just be $10.

Nblion
08-06-08, 05:02
I'm partial to Toby Keith's at Harrah's, and I'm not a fan of either country music or Mr. Keith in particular. The food is pretty good though. I'm just a complete sucker for the denim miniskirts that most of the staff wears there. I guess I have a fetish for that particular look.

Bill Buxton
09-17-08, 23:33
I am wondering if bill's is a good location to work from on the strip.I am also wondering if there are any hassles involved in getting some room service at the hotel.I have never stayed there and will be selecting a hotel for an upcoming trip.Any intelligence on the area would be forthcoming.

B.B.

Alittle Geeky
09-18-08, 04:24
I am wondering if bill's is a good location to work from on the strip.I am also wondering if there are any hassles involved in getting some room service at the hotel.I have never stayed there and will be selecting a hotel for an upcoming trip.Any intelligence on the area would be forthcoming.

B.B.I am partial to the Imperial Palace. Never stayed there, but I usually recommend it to all my friends that come into town. Everyone usually likes it. It is right in the middle of the strip too. But that is just me.

Firedigg
09-18-08, 09:15
I am wondering if bill's is a good location to work from on the strip.I am also wondering if there are any hassles involved in getting some room service at the hotel.I have never stayed there and will be selecting a hotel for an upcoming trip.Any intelligence on the area would be forthcoming.

B.B.From my past experience bills is not a place where SW hang out with caesars across the street paris next door etc. However getting a girl to the room is no problem at all. Been there done that both massage and SW. MOst SW will go back to your room with you if you find them in a nearby place and it is a one end of the strip to the other walk. Also check out exotic godiva in the Escort section better than CC rates and first rate service

Bill Buxton
09-18-08, 13:05
Thanks for the Intel I will be out there end of October for 3-4-nights and will be on the market for some action.

B.B.

HungryCoyote
09-29-08, 20:01
Smith & Wollensky wants $40 for a serloin.

Is this average for the Vegas strip or can I do better?

Scotthpclv
09-30-08, 14:21
Go to The Steak House at Circus Circus - a locals favorite for 20 years. Great food and service, Old Vegas.

HungryCoyote
10-10-08, 01:35
Not really sure where to put this but I need to vent. LVFeaver had a rule that providers could only post an ad once a week, more than that would be deleted. I can understand this, but then they started deleting posts if a provider gave any of their info to a client asking questions, claiming it too was advertizing. Now they have gone so far as to delete my and other client's posts because I guess we praised a provider to much. That is just over the line. I wish there was a way to get all the quality providers on that site to start posting here. I know any quality ladies that I see, I make sure to tell them about this site. I hope everyone else does too.
End Rant.

Cienega32
10-16-08, 02:24
Thanks for the sports books Frank!


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
{from LasVegasOne}

One of the most infamous characters in Las Vegas history has died. Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal was a former gaming executive and a long time mob associate.

He was portrayed in the movie Casino by Robert DeNiro.

Rosenthal ran the Stardust for the mob in the 1970's. That ended when the Nevada Gaming Board found out he didn't have a license.

He survived an assassination attempt in 1982.

Reports say he died of a heart attack in his Florida home Monday. Rosenthal was 79.

Wastrel
10-17-08, 06:05
Thanks for the sports books Frank!Still enjoying one of Mr. Rosenthal's chairs, I trust. You did get that thing hauled out to your new digs, right?

Da Game
10-17-08, 17:25
Smith & Wollensky wants $40 for a serloin.

Is this average for the Vegas strip or can I do better?

If you want great try Tom Colicchio's Craftsteak in the MGM. It doesn't get any better in the area. Don't go to the Gallaghers in NYNY, you will pay the same for more pedestrian fare.

If you want cheap, go down the street and around the block to Ellis Island.

The complete steak dinner at Ellis Island is the best-value meal deal in a city full of good-value meal deals. It’s a 10-ounce filet-cut sirloin, which comes with salad, garlic green beans, choice of potato, and fresh microbrewed beer, all for $6.95. A note on logistics: Every other Monday, the Ellis Island coffee shop shuts almost all the way down for a thorough cleaning and the steak shuts down with it. If you’re planning on going to EI after dinner hours on a Monday, we recommend calling first to see if it’s the right or wrong night to do so.

Cienega32
10-17-08, 22:22
Still enjoying one of Mr. Rosenthal's chairs, I trust. You did get that thing hauled out to your new digs, right?
You know it, buddy - thanks to your intel!

3 chairs, the only 3-seat book bench, 200+ sq feet of that kooky carpet and no one to throw me out as I sit there with a laptop getting my bets ready for the Juarez sports book (which, along w/ clubs, have recently gone non-smoking - 1,100 murders this year but just don't smoke).

My old 'Dust ashtrays, 'Dust lighters, 'Dust pens, my old giant 'Dust glass sports book mugs - all I'm missing are the digital scoreboards. The cocktail service is still lacking tho'... but at least I don't have to listen to JJ Walker 3 rows behind me anymore.

Rocknroll702
10-18-08, 09:55
I am also disappointed with the direction of that site. The new owner is ruthless and is running people out of there. I guess she likes operating boring boards that no one reads.


Not really sure where to put this but I need to vent. LVFeaver had a rule that providers could only post an ad once a week, more than that would be deleted. I can understand this, but then they started deleting posts if a provider gave any of their info to a client asking questions, claiming it too was advertizing. Now they have gone so far as to delete my and other client's posts because I guess we praised a provider to much. That is just over the line. I wish there was a way to get all the quality providers on that site to start posting here. I know any quality ladies that I see, I make sure to tell them about this site. I hope everyone else does too.

End Rant.

Rocknroll702
10-18-08, 16:16
I happened to be there on a Tuesday night, which was apparently Ladies Night. All the ladies were drinking free from 6-9. The lady customers were not all that attractive as it is a little older crowd. But the cocktail waitresses there were pretty smoking hot. I was surprised. This might be a great place to meet some CGs. I thought I saw a couple hanging out on the perimeter of the bar, but they were chatting up some other guys so I didn't have a chance to find out. I felt that this might be a safer place to meet CGs because of the ladies night factor, there is an excuse for them to be there. There was also no cover charge, so I was able to move in/out of the lounge without any hassle. Also, no bouncers or security at the door. I will definitely return on Tuesdays.

They also have live Jazz on Thu nights with vodka drink specials. But I haven't been yet. Plan to though. I stumbled on this because of their Sunday NFL football party, which is awesome too. Last week, I met a couple of girls from Bada Bing strip club there. Apparently, they are allowed to promote the strip club at the football party. They were smoking hot. I asked if they gave lap dances at the football party, they laughed and said they weren't allowed to. Otherwise, they would.

My 2 cents on an off-strip find.


I'm partial to Toby Keith's at Harrah's, and I'm not a fan of either country music or Mr. Keith in particular. The food is pretty good though. I'm just a complete sucker for the denim miniskirts that most of the staff wears there. I guess I have a fetish for that particular look.

HungryCoyote
10-20-08, 23:49
Any one know what the reason is for the red and blue flashing lights on top of some of the streetlight poles?

Tampa Cowboy
10-21-08, 16:44
Ok boys, and girls I am not sure what section to ask this question. I guess this is as good a place as any.

I will be attending a meeting downtown this weekend. My wife will be traveling with me, but she likes to play when we travel together. In the past, we always used the services of Las Vegas Maids. Bruce always took care of us with quality ladies that didn't mind taking care of the wife. I see that Bruce is no longer in business and I can't find any quality agencies to use.

I have done a lot of research on different boards looking for independents and agencies. What few ladies I have found that entertain couples want absorbadent amounts of money per hour. The wife always want to spend at least two hours with our friend, but 2 hours often runs over $1, 000. That cuts into my play money fund.

Does any one have recommendations on quality agencies or independents that we could contact? The wife prefers friends that and petite and younger than 35. Any help would be appreciated. You may post the reply here, or PM me with your ideas.

Thanks and safe mongering.

Vegas Hern
10-22-08, 05:51
Any one know what the reason is for the red and blue flashing lights on top of some of the streetlight poles?The red and blue lights are over cameras. They are metro cameras owned by the city and not the casinos used to monitor the area.

Wastrel
10-22-08, 06:55
Any one know what the reason is for the red and blue flashing lights on top of some of the streetlight poles?To arrest you, or chase you away. Say cheese:

http://www.ktnv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=1686944&h1=Fremont%20%26%2015th%20Camera%20Leading%20To%20Arrests&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=112200&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=21133760

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?s=6730754
http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6965362
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7411264

So, you probably don't want to be doing anything overtly illegal in plain view of those flashing poles. LVPD wants people to know they are there, and they might be watching, which is why they have flashing lights on them.

Member #4558
10-22-08, 17:57
Does any one have recommendations on quality agencies or independents that we could contact? The wife prefers friends that and petite and younger than 35. Any help would be appreciated. You may post the reply here, or PM me with your ideas.

Thanks and safe mongering.

Not sure about the couples end of things but I do know that with very, very few exceptions, agencies in Vegas should be avoided at all costs. The only one that I ever heard anything good said about was Pretty Maids and from what you posted, it looks like they are history.

HungryCoyote
10-22-08, 19:12
It’s a 10-ounce filet-cut sirloin, which comes with salad, garlic green beans, choice of potato, and fresh microbrewed beer, all for $6.95. Sounds good. Is that an unlisted special? I don't see it on the menu.

http://www.ellisislandcasino.com/EImenu.pdf

Guady1
10-22-08, 19:24
Does any one have recommendations on quality agencies or independents that we could contact? The wife prefers friends that and petite and younger than 35. Any help would be appreciated. You may post the reply here, or PM me with your ideas.


Try eros.com, I met a provider there with great results.
I ran the vegas ads with providers that service couples and it was almost 400, so you should be able to find someone.

I don't think you should be dishing out more than $$$$$ in these times. I have had threesomes for $$$, so I know you can get about the same.

I saw one ad for couples by "Tanaka", wow, what a knockout. I plan to get in touch with her, if you are into asians (like I am into asians) let me know.

Smokey1981
11-26-08, 19:37
Look at the pic and choose your num.

R Consultant
11-26-08, 21:35
Screw the agencies and don't call any number you get from the people handing out the little fliers on the streets. You will be pissed off.

All you need to do is hit the casino. The girls show up all day and night. I want to say the best looking ones are there from like 7pm-2am. They are hot as all and can make money easily. You can sit at the slots and the girls just come around. I sat at the bar also and just paid close attention to what was walking through the casino floor.

I always got my thrills where I was staying. I can recommend the Venetian for everything. I have never had a bad time there. Plus the ladies are more upscale and you will not be disappointed.

Let me know how it works out for you.


Happy Hunting..[


QUOTE=Tampa Cowboy]Ok boys, and girls I am not sure what section to ask this question. I guess this is as good a place as any.

I will be attending a meeting downtown this weekend. My wife will be traveling with me, but she likes to play when we travel together. In the past, we always used the services of Las Vegas Maids. Bruce always took care of us with quality ladies that didn't mind taking care of the wife. I see that Bruce is no longer in business and I can't find any quality agencies to use.

I have done a lot of research on different boards looking for independents and agencies. What few ladies I have found that entertain couples want absorbadent amounts of money per hour. The wife always want to spend at least two hours with our friend, but 2 hours often runs over $1, 000. That cuts into my play money fund.

Does any one have recommendations on quality agencies or independents that we could contact? The wife prefers friends that and petite and younger than 35. Any help would be appreciated. You may post the reply here, or PM me with your ideas.

Thanks and safe mongering.[/QUOTE]

Rocknroll702
11-27-08, 13:11
Although the agency is no longer around, many of the girls are. Cami, Kristy, and one other that now goes by Kim Dior. You can find them on many ad sites listed under independent. I'm not sure about the others. I know Nicole and Nikki post every once in a while on boards of other sites. But I'm not sure if they are around.

RR702


Ok boys, and girls I am not sure what section to ask this question. I guess this is as good a place as any.

I will be attending a meeting downtown this weekend. My wife will be traveling with me, but she likes to play when we travel together. In the past, we always used the services of Las Vegas Maids. Bruce always took care of us with quality ladies that didn't mind taking care of the wife. I see that Bruce is no longer in business and I can't find any quality agencies to use.

I have done a lot of research on different boards looking for independents and agencies. What few ladies I have found that entertain couples want absorbadent amounts of money per hour. The wife always want to spend at least two hours with our friend, but 2 hours often runs over $1, 000. That cuts into my play money fund.

Does any one have recommendations on quality agencies or independents that we could contact? The wife prefers friends that and petite and younger than 35. Any help would be appreciated. You may post the reply here, or PM me with your ideas.

Thanks and safe mongering.

Thunderbolt47
12-12-08, 11:40
Hey guys. Found these trailers and they are pretty good. Does anybody know how I could
1. Record these trailers to my comp.
2. Find out the names of these chicks..OR
3. Find out the names of these movies?

http://dirtyvideos.timekiller.com/index~show~media~vidi~MASG7432426.htm

http://www.dirtylinkspace.com/content/This_teen_gets_ravaged_so_hard_in_her_ass_shes_left_with_a_big_crater_74/

Thanks!!

Rustys
01-22-09, 00:27
How do you acknowledge fellow mongers when you pass them on the way into or on the way out of an AMP? Ha ha it's always funny to see some of you guys around those places. BTW someone go to Kingdom Massage in Chinatown and write an updated report. There are some hot, naughty looking girls there.

Speck
01-23-09, 01:43
How do you acknowledge fellow mongers when you pass them on the way into or on the way out of an AMP? Ha ha it's always funny to see some of you guys around those places. BTW someone go to Kingdom Massage in Chinatown and write an updated report. There are some hot, naughty looking girls there.You don't. Discretion.

Alan Shore
01-23-09, 04:18
You don't. Discretion.When I am in an AMP I do not really want to talk to (or see for that matter)any other patrons.

Just my $0.02

Nemodc
01-25-09, 18:03
Hey guys. Found these trailers and they are pretty good. Does anybody know how I could
1. Record these trailers to my comp.
2. Find out the names of these chicks..OR
3. Find out the names of these movies?

http://dirtyvideos.timekiller.com/index~show~media~vidi~MASG7432426.htm

http://www.dirtylinkspace.com/content/This_teen_gets_ravaged_so_hard_in_her_ass_shes_left_with_a_big_crater_74/

Thanks!!

use MS Internet Explorer browser, watch the movie, then go:

Tools

Internet Options

Settings

View Files


Look toward the bottom of the list, you should see a very large file, probably the largest there, left click, right click, copy, save to desktop or where ever. This works for me on yuvutu.com and the like.

Nemo

Looking16
01-29-09, 09:08
I haven't been to Las Vegas for about 4 years but I've run across a web site with hotel coupon discount codes. This may not be news to many of you but it helped me and thought I'd share it. I just booked 4 nights at the MGM for approx $52. 00 a night at the end of February. Earlyvegas.com/promo_codes.html

Ohiohighlander
05-28-09, 18:48
With the pickings in Vegas apparently slim these days (from a CG perspective) can someone provide details on how the brothels work. I'm interested in cost, distance from Vegas, and quality. I'm going to be in town in a few weeks and trying to find my best option.

Thanks

Bigboi47
05-28-09, 19:42
Hey guys. Found these trailers and they are pretty good. Does anybody know how I could
1. Record these trailers to my comp.
2. Find out the names of these chicks..OR
3. Find out the names of these movies?

http://dirtyvideos.timekiller.com/index~show~media~vidi~MASG7432426.htm

http://www.dirtylinkspace.com/content/This_teen_gets_ravaged_so_hard_in_her_ass_shes_left_with_a_big_crater_74/

Thanks!!
The first clip is Sasha Grey the movie Gangbang My Face. Did not reconize the second porn clip.

NorCalGuy69
05-31-09, 19:30
Hey guys. Found these trailers and they are pretty good. Does anybody know how I could Record these trailers to my comp.Easiest way to download Flash videos is to use Firefox and the "Download Helper" add-on. Once you're viewing a video you just choose to download and save the video from the menu item the add-on adds to Firefox. It works for the sites you listed, I tried it.

Cameltopian
08-04-09, 14:17
Had to laugh when I read this one:)

China 'trusts prostitutes more'

Politicians were deemed less trustworthy than prostitutes

China's prostitutes are better-trusted than its politicians and scientists, according to an online survey published by Insight China magazine.

The survey found that 7.9% of respondents considered sex workers to be trustworthy, placing them third behind farmers and religious workers.

"A list like this is at the same time surprising and embarrassing," said an editorial in the state-run China Daily.

Politicians were far down the list, closer to scientists and teachers.

Insight China polled 3,376 Chinese citizens in June and July this year.

"The sex workers' unexpected prominence on this list of honour... is indeed unusual," said the China Daily editorial.

"At least [the scientists and officials] have not slid into the least credible category which consists of real estate developers, secretaries, agents, entertainers and directors," the editorial said.

Soldiers came in fourth place.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8183502.stm

Cameltopian
11-04-09, 11:59
Their valuables gone, like their ladies of the night.

More than $2 million is likely be stolen in ’09 in ‘trick rolls’ in which a prostitute robs a client


By Abigail Goldman (contact)

Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009 | 2 a.m.

People in the company of Clark County prostitutes collectively reported having $1.4 million in cash and goods stolen from them during the first nine months of this year — dupes of a larceny genre better known to police as the “trick roll.”

By year’s end, it’s estimated the total reported losses will exceed $2 million — almost double last year’s total, and probably a fraction of the real amount.

How many people file police reports, after all, when their prostitutes disappoint?

Enough, at least, for Metro vice detectives to determine the problem is getting worse, and assign two detectives to trick roll investigations exclusively. They’ve gotten roughly one case every day this year. In 2007 it was more like one a week.

That increase could have something to do with the economy. Fewer tourists with less money means supply exceeds demand. Prices drop and competition ratchets up for prostitutes, many of whom police say must meet nightly quotas set by pimps. Metro Sgt. Donald Hoier, though, says the problem picked up before the economy fell, simply because Clark County was saturated with sex workers and outlets for illicit entertainment.

When everybody scrambles for the same pool of money, bad seeds take short cuts.

Consider the reported losses Hoier reads from a list of cases: $10,000 in cash, casino chips and a laptop; $30,000 in cash and chips; $20,000 Rolex; $6,000 Rolex; $5,000 cash; and — perhaps the most interesting, a case Hoier can only hint at — $175,000 in casino chips.

These are preposterous amounts, which is probably why they were reported in the first place.

Sometimes these are crimes of opportunity. A watch is left out, a laptop is folded in the corner.

But there are prostitutes for whom sex is only a pretext to theft, and others who have no intention of sleeping with their clients, Hoier said. They know how to exploit angles and mirrors to see safe codes being punched, while others, Hoier says, actually become good at identifying the tones assigned to each number on the key pads.

“While he’s in the shower,” Hoier says, “she’s taking everything.”

Drugs are slipped into drinks. Clients are escorted to ATMs for payment, only to find their cards have been stolen by someone who surreptitiously saw the pin number. Two women come to one room and run lewd tactical diversion.

But sometimes it’s just a matter of violence.

Prostitutes have pulled guns. Pimps, waiting nearby, Hoier says, have beaten people just shy of death.

All of this is easier to accomplish when the target fits a preferred profile: intoxicated and alone.

Susan Lopez, founder of the Las Vegas chapter of the Sex Workers Outreach Project, a national group dedicated to sex workers’ rights, said the economy is definitely a factor in the uptick.

“There are a lot of transient sex workers who come here because they think it’s going to be more profitable,” she said, adding that it’s widely felt that “most of the people who are committing these infractions are pimped women, and women who answer to somebody.”

Women who steal from their clients give a shamed industry a bad name, Lopez said, much to the frustration of local, independent sex workers who take their occupations, and reputations, seriously.

At the same time, however, “the girls kind of feel like it’s the guy’s own stupid fault — when desperate and drunk people get together, they don’t have a good time.”

For the record, Hoier says, trick rolls happen everywhere. High- and low-end casinos, on the street when a prostitute brings a client down a dark alley, and outside strip clubs, when dancers go home with clients.

In one case, a couple having an affair in Las Vegas hired a prostitute. The female client later realized her engagement ring, purchased by her fiancee back home, was stolen.

In a different case, a woman approached local men in nightclubs, spent weeks getting to know them (and the layouts of their homes), then drugged them before executing high-dollar burglaries.

There’s often a gap between the theft and the time it’s discovered, which complicates things for police. Even when clients realize right away, prostitutes have vanished down access stairs and out emergency exits, avoiding notice or handing the goods off to someone else.

Getting people to come forward is another problem. To this end, police carefully explain, misdemeanor crimes, like soliciting a prostitute, only lead to an arrest when they occur in the presence of police. Other trick rolls are never categorized as such, because johns hide their real relationships to the thieves.

When cases are opened, they often reveal other related crimes. Lately, for example, trick rolls are feeding identity theft. Other times, thieving prostitutes lead vice detectives back to violent pimps.

“It happens more than you’d probably think,” Hoier said. “A lot of women would rather steal from these guys than work as prostitutes.”http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/04/their-valuables-gone-their-ladies-night/

Alan Shore
11-05-09, 04:30
Getting people to come forward is another problem. To this end, police carefully explain, misdemeanor crimes, like soliciting a prostitute, only lead to an arrest when they occur in the presence of police. Other trick rolls are never categorized as such, because johns hide their real relationships to the thieves.This is interesting. If you get rolled you can file a report without the risk of being charged.

Cameltopian
11-24-09, 20:31
"Whew, that's one terrific spread!"
"I'm in the mood for a little dark meat."
"Tying the legs together keeps the inside moist."
"Talk about a huge breast!"
"It's Cool Whip time!"
"If I don't undo my pants, I'll burst!"
"Are you ready for seconds yet?"
"It's a little dry, do you still want to eat it?"
"Just wait your turn, you'll get some!"
"Don't play with your meat."
"Just spread the legs open & stuff it in."
"I didn't expect everyone to come at once!"
"Use a nice smooth stroke when you whip it."
"How long will it take after you stick it in?"
"You'll know it's ready when it pops up."
"Wow, I didn't think I could handle all of that!"
"How many are coming?"
"That's the biggest one I've ever seen!"
"Just lay back & take it easy... I'll do the rest."
"How long do I beat it before it's ready?"
"You still have a little bit on your chin."
"Do you think you'll be able to handle all these people at once?"
"USASG sure has a nice spread... if we could only get more people to RTFF it would be icing on the cake!"

Kirkd9
01-06-10, 07:31
I keep hearing about this on the radio, talks about a treatment that takes effect in 10 minutes and lasts up to two hours.

Has anyone tried this or know anything about it?

Virgil1974
01-06-10, 20:36
An injection is placed near the top of the penis. It is used to help with ED similar to Viagra. The erection starts right away and can last for a few hours. Notify your doctor if it lasts longer than 4 hours, or go have a lot of fun.


I keep hearing about this on the radio, talks about a treatment that takes effect in 10 minutes and lasts up to two hours.

Has anyone tried this or know anything about it?

Kirkd9
01-07-10, 19:33
An injection is placed near the top of the penis. It is used to help with ED similar to Viagra. The erection starts right away and can last for a few hours. Notify your doctor if it lasts longer than 4 hours, or go have a lot of fun.Thanks for the info. Is it a shot shot or one of those things like a bee sting kit, where you just place against the skin and it snaps and gives the medication? Any idea of cost? Thanks for all your help.

Joepro
01-09-10, 22:51
I keep hearing about this on the radio, talks about a treatment that takes effect in 10 minutes and lasts up to two hours.

Has anyone tried this or know anything about it?I never heard of that

Straw
01-10-10, 18:23
Thanks for the info. Is it a shot shot or one of those things like a bee sting kit, where you just place against the skin and it snaps and gives the medication? Any idea of cost? Thanks for all your help.

It is a regular syringe like an insulin shot. I have one friend who uses it. He is in his mid 70s and he loves it.

The company that was mentioned is at Tropicana and Torrey Pines. Can't miss their storefront. I assume other doctors provide the same medication, though.

Smokey1981
01-31-10, 20:44
Everytime there's a BBFS thread it always become a HIV disscusion. Everybody know that you can get a STD if you go baraback and that the true. But HIV is very rare to catch, that's unless you like bbGreek then your in trouble. I found this article

The safest places for sex are the brothels of Nevada and among those practicing responsible non-monogamy or polyfidelity with careful, knowledgeable, sexually mature people. An article "No gambling in the brothels" said "In the last year and a half of testing approximately 4. 700 Street prostitutes non drug users, Nevada has not found one to be positive for AIDS. You are far more likely to be killed in an auto accident than enjoying sexual pleasure sharing. A man who sees prostitutes takes much less of a risk for AIDS than you on your drive to work. This may not fit many moralists' agendas but it is the fact.

"From 1987 to 1992, in the Philippines, under the medical supervision of the USA military, over 31, 710 Filipino prostitutes were tested for HIV infection. After over 10 years of sexual contact with American GI's as well as tourists from Japan, America, Germany, Australia, etc. 99. 88% of the 31, 710 prostitutes were found HIV-negative. There was no evidence that any of the prostitutes spread AIDS to any of the GI's nor evidence that any of the GI's spread AIDS to the prostitutes. However, there was evidence of high levels of sexually transmitted diseases, such as VD and the 'clap, ' which indicated that many or most of the GI's were not using condom protection. This is powerful testimony that HIV/AIDS is not a sexually transmitted disease, except in very rare situations. Unfortunately, the media focus their attention only on these exceptions to the rule, giving the public the false impression that HIV is easily spread. Nothing could be further from the truth. " (Ibid.)

Nemodc
02-01-10, 03:05
post a link to or otherwise cite your source please.

Nemo


Everytime there's a BBFS thread it always become a HIV disscusion. Everybody know that you can get a STD if you go baraback and that the true. But HIV is very rare to catch, that's unless you like bbGreek then your in trouble. I found this article

Vegas Black
03-11-10, 14:12
Soes anybody know if Clark County/Las Vegas Metro and area police post mugshots online like other cities?

Mugshots are suppose to be available for public record.

If so, where can they be found?

Deeez
03-11-10, 16:56
Soes anybody know if Clark County/Las Vegas Metro and area police post mugshots online like other cities?

Mugshots are suppose to be available for public record.

If so, where can they be found?Neither the Sheriffs or Metro website post mugshots but they do release the pictures to the media. Mugshots of johns and prostitutes have appeared in the newspapers like the Las Vegas Sun.

Cameltopian
04-14-10, 19:28
APRIL 5--Meet William Ferris. The Ohio man yesterday paid a prostitute $50 with the understanding that he would receive a full menu of sexual services in the bathroom of a White Castle in Cincinnati. However, when the hooker only performed oral sex on him, Ferris--who was also expecting vaginal sex--contacted police to report that he had just been robbed. When Hamilton County Sheriff's Office deputies responded to Ferris's 911 call, his "story began to fall apart," according to an arrest report. Ferris admitted that he was not, in fact, robbed by his unidentified paid date. In an interview, a frustrated Ferris told TSG that he expected "all of it for $50," but just got "kissing and sucking" during the 20-minute bathroom encounter. He added that the hooker picked the White Castle for their assignation since its bathroom locked (and not because of the eatery's tasty belly bombers). The unemployed Ferris, charged with solicitation and making a false police report, was scheduled to be arraigned today on the misdemeanor counts. He told TSG that he will be charged with trespassing if he returns to the White Castle on Harrison Avenue.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0406102whitecastle1.html

Rodwint2
10-16-10, 19:13
Any recommendations on any cigar friendly bars, restaurants, clubs or lounges? Looking at Downtown more than the Strip, but any location is fine.

Dj Platinum
03-05-11, 01:52
Any recommendations on any cigar friendly bars, restaurants, clubs or lounges? Looking at Downtown more than the Strip, but any location is fine.The summit of cigar bars in Las Vegas might be Casa Fuente at the Forum Shops at Caesars. It joins an elite group of fine cigar-focused lounges that can be found at such places as the Hard Rock, Planet Hollywood, Paris and JW Marriott.

On a casual Saturday afternoon, just about peak time for Forum browsers, the tables at Casa Fuente seem to disappear under a cloud of sweet-smelling smoke and the clink of specialty drinks such as the Old Cuban or Hemingway's Epitaph, made with Montecristo rum, lime and Angostura bitters.

You also can get a Rémy Martin Louis XIII here for $150 a glass, best accompanied by an Opus X or limited-edition 2006 Forbidden for $200 each.

DJP

Alan Shore
03-06-11, 01:20
Any recommendations on any cigar friendly bars, restaurants, clubs or lounges? Looking at Downtown more than the Strip, but any location is fine.There is a pretty nice cigar bar downtown. I have been there a few times but can't remember which hotel it is.

Sorry I don't have the exact locale but I guess it helps to know there is one there.

Dj Platinum
03-06-11, 02:09
There is a pretty nice cigar bar downtown. I have been there a few times but can't remember which hotel it is.

Sorry I don't have the exact locale but I guess it helps to know there is one there. There's CMT Cigars, cigar lounge that's on 5661 West Sahara Avenue. CMT Cigar Lounge is one of the few Real Cigar Lounges in Las Vegas. La Gloria, Fuente, Davidoff, Cohiba, Romeo Juliet etc. They are reasonable.

DJP

Monte3
03-06-11, 05:44
I have been smoking these Romeo why Juileta number 1s, was lucky enough to spend a couple of days down in ole H a couple of weeks ago.

Actually am partial to the Cohiba Rubosto, Maduro wrapper.

I have been trying to stay away from cigars, hoping to limit my excesses.