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chest47
02-08-06, 15:52
I had to fly up to Kalamazoo, Mi on some business. I followed my typical pattern of checking out the titti bars first and then hitting the streets or prearranged appointment. I like to let the darkness and the dancer types at the pole awaken dragon and start the fire building in his gut. Then he wants some flesh. I chose a hotel near the airport that had outside door access, so I could get my new friend in and out undetected. Then I headed up Portage to north of town and turned left onto Kalamazoo. I followed Kalamazoo until it made its first split and stayed to the right. Then onto the next split to the right that put me on Douglas. I went up Douglas to Ravine where I found a topless alcoholic club and behind it in a strip was a bookstore boutique and behind it was a Deja Vu fully nude club but non alcohol. I went the fully nude route and had a dancer named Roxi go to the back room with me. 5'5" Brunette 36C early 20's and real cute. In the booth she put my hands to the side and instructed me not to touch. Even though she rubbed my face with her breasts, did a lot of breathing in my ear, ground my crotch and kept dragon relatively happy....its just not like the mutual touching bars, like Rick's in Seattle, or Babes in Memphis, or BareAssets in Melbourne...getting those hands on their legs, waiste and breasts, buttocks, hair and nipples while they grind away is to be preferred.

I decided to check the streets. Nothing was out that night, it was too cold. However, the next morning going up Portage at the corner of Bryant where there is a Mexican Store on each corner and a Clark gas station there were streetwalkers. One was leaning against the wall of a Mexican Store facing Portage. She looked to be 5'7 160 lb.ish Blonde, had a heavy light tan leather coat on, I just never use big girls, she gave me the distinct look though. I made a block and came up between the Mexican Store and the gas station and stopped at the stop sign. A cute looking Red head turned away from the outside phone stations at the gas station and started walking right for my car. We made eye contact the whole way. As she approached the door of my car she smiled real big and I thought this ones a possibility. Suddenly a little red Corsica pulled into the gas station behind her honking, she signaled me one minute, opened the door and sat down in the car. Someone pulled up behind me and starting honking so I signaled her one minute and went around the block to come back up into the gas station parking lot. The little red car was gone and so was the streetwalker. I came back for several hours but didn't see anyone at that corner after that. Had to make a flight that night. It was 2-6-06 and 07 that I envisioned this story and decided to write it down.

Sawyer
04-26-06, 22:17
Pick up a red-haired WSW in the portage street area. She had a decent body and 7 out of 10 in looks. Payed .3 for a BBTCIM. Her skills were ok, but she had a bad attitude and was in a rush.

I guess Kazoo isn't dead yet.

Be careful

Mikd 73
06-25-06, 08:46
Long time lurker, first time poster. Picked up Mellissa (skinny, blonde hair, glasses) on Portage this evening/morning. Had Potential and that was all. After dropoing her off at her dealers house and smoking her stuff we did the deed, total clock watcher and unwilling to do anything besides mish. And I mean anything! She left the situation mid sentance and demanded I drive her to where she needed to go, upon which I let her out my door and locked it behind her. Don't waste your time with this "head" she spent at least a half hour getting her mind right and then threw a fit when I asked for any compensation on my part. She's on drugs and avoid at all cost no matter how decent she may look.

Poppa John555
07-10-06, 01:37
Guys,

Need a hand with this one. I'm brand new to the Kzoo area and have been hitting all of the locations I've read about and heard from word of mouth. However-- no luck. Then it dawned on me, I've been checking at the time of day I know were good in Dayton, not necessarily here.

When is the best time to check for a decent WSW? The times on N. Dixie in Dayton were pretty damn scheduled (4 am to 7 am; 11 am to 1 pm; 5 pm to about 8 pm; and around 10 pm to midnight). Here, I'm not having any luck. I've been tring the 10 pm to midnight times mostly, but still nothing.

Advice?

Humpty Dumpty
07-25-06, 23:36
What streets or areas have the best action? I'm from Columbus.

Poppa John555
07-26-06, 01:29
Try Portage and the residential streets off of it such as Washington, Lake and Stockbridge. Heavy LE out there recently, but is worth the trip sometimes. Times of best activity can vary, but usually see a lot right after sunset.

Poppa John
08-04-06, 16:12
Guys,

Let's keep this going! Just a heads-up, one of the other hobbyist mentioned seeing someone get busted the other night in the Washington area. Watch your six!
Now, has anyone had any luck so far? I know the neighborhood watch program in the Edison area is asking the LE to start cracking down more, but I'm sure someone is having some good luck. Me? Well, not much, although a quick trip to Chicago last week yielded some good results. But DAMN--- expensive.

Luv Chubby Girl
08-04-06, 19:33
Guys,

Let's keep this going! Just a heads-up, one of the other hobbyist mentioned seeing someone get busted the other night in the Washington area. Watch your six!
Now, has anyone had any luck so far? I know the neighborhood watch program in the Edison area is asking the LE to start cracking down more, but I'm sure someone is having some good luck. Me? Well, not much, although a quick trip to Chicago last week yielded some good results. But DAMN--- expensive.

The Edison area is too hit and miss these days though action seems best at dawn and dusk hours lately. If you're having trouble there you should check the northside neighborhoods. Action can be found most any times though late nights and early mornings are best. If you are not sure of the best northside "track", let me know and I can pm you an idea of my "track" that I drive, it covers the whole city.



Luv Chubby Girl, aka "The Shadow"

Poppa John
08-23-06, 01:23
The Edison area is too hit and miss these days though action seems best at dawn and dusk hours lately. If you're having trouble there you should check the northside neighborhoods. Action can be found most any times though late nights and early mornings are best. If you are not sure of the best northside "track", let me know and I can pm you an idea of my "track" that I drive, it covers the whole city.

Luv Chubby Girl, aka "The Shadow"Chubby,

Wuold like to see what areas you are patrolling. Not much luck here recently!

Paul1060Park
08-26-06, 06:33
I would like to hear too. Sometimes I see action but most of the time I don't. Picked up Margaret on the North side a week ago, good looking black middle aged woman; put on a good show.

Paul

Paul1060Park
08-31-06, 12:24
Anybody had any experience with an escort named Emily?

Thanks,

Paul

Poppa John
08-31-06, 18:50
Paul,

Where did you find her? SGUSA, TER, or is it a local place? If so, I've used Adourrr's (Sp?), the girl was nice and willing, but talk about some upsale!

Poppa

Paul1060Park
09-02-06, 16:30
Found her at naughtynightlife.com

Paul

Poppa John
09-10-06, 14:31
Guys,

With cold weather approaching, I figure I better get all that I can while the getting's good. Went out last night for about an hour-- just wanted to look around and see what was out being offered. Found one WSW, looked to be early 20's and about a 6 or 7/10. The only thing was that there was a guy walking right beside her (I thought a fellow monger at first). I did the loop, came back around after cruising to see if he was gone, and you know what-- He actually started to waive me over. WTF? Guess he was her pimp, and is trying to drum up business. I left the scene, but was still a bit baffled by that move. I would have thought it was a set-up for the LE, but she wasn't that pretty and had the used look about her.

The rest of the night was pretty dismal. Saw one BSW, but she registerd about a 2/10 and I figured it wasn't worth it. By the way, I've seen photos posted on a few of the other forums, any of you local guys have some pics of your conquests? The last one for me said I could take a pic, but it would be $20 extra and only her boobs. Nah, I'll pass.

Poppa

Poppa John
09-24-06, 01:49
Guys,

I've heard other mongers talk about what can be had in North Kzoo. Now, I've been around what I consider to be north Kzoo, but of no luck. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places? Can any of you enlighten me as to what you consider north Kzoo residential areas.

Poppa

PS-- I've noticed that the conversations have started to dry up. What gives?

Poppa John
09-24-06, 05:12
One thing before I forget-- every once in awhile, I pull into the Kzoo Inn off of N Westnedge just because it looks pretty seedy. Each time I do, no matter what time of the night, I notice about 3 or 4 windows open up with and some women look out of the window. Anyone know what the protocall is for this place? I'm willing to bet they are all BSW that use it for the night, but I'm not sure if it's kosher to just pull into a space, park your car and, well, wait?

Poppa

Luke20
10-05-06, 08:30
New too the area. Use to live in Indy and now in the Michiana area. But, interested in making a trip too K-zoo (beside the the race track). Does the club at Deja Vu have "private rooms" and w/extra tipping provide any additonal fun? Haven't been there yet but there are no complete nude strip clubs in the Indy area. Thanks for the information if possible.

Waxon1
10-05-06, 14:17
The room in any of the Vu's are only semi private, and you wont even get so much as a HJ at a Vu unless in it take out. Management will give the girl the boot if it finds out the girls are doing take out after work.
For the money and hassel your better off to find a escort if you want extras.

Luke20
10-05-06, 15:09
The room in any of the Vu's are only semi private, and you wont even get so much as a HJ at a Vu unless in it take out. Management will give the girl the boot if it finds out the girls are doing take out after work.

For the money and hassel your better off to find a escort if you want extras.Harmonic,

Thanks for the 411. You here "stories" and would like to get some inside information. Like I said I've never been there but have thought about it and curious if there were any extra's.

Years ago I went too Brandy's in Ft.Wayne indiana and there was a fine looking lady coming out of a room (hotel right next too the club). Well, half an hour lady I saw that same girl on stage. So, was curious about the Vu.

Thanks.

JPhoto
10-06-06, 12:46
A few weeks ago I was in K-zoo at a motel. While I was there I dreamt that I called Centerfold Playmates to arrange for a little company that evening. I decided on April who was decribed as a thin college cheerleader type girl. The rate was $ plus tip. When April arrived, her face rated about a 6 but her body was a solid 9. She told me that a standard tip was $$$. I told her I only had $. 9 and she agreed. I was thinking with my little head because that was still too much in my opinion. She came across as accomodating but, had no enthusiasm. She certainly not a GFE. She kind of came across with a let me know what you want so I can get this over with type attitude. A little bit of a mood killer. After she left, I was left thinking that I paid way too much for any level of service let alone the lack luster service that was provided. I was glad to wake up from that dream hoping to not have that dream again.

Poppa John
10-07-06, 19:54
JP,

Sorry to hear about that. I've used one agency since I've been here with really good results. The girl gave me her home phone number and I would call her at her home sometimes and I would just give the $ directly to her. She was very accomodating (I sometimes take a long time), and we'd both work up a sweat. It's been awhile since I've seen her, and I believe the agency was Aaadors (Spelling may be wrong).
Hope all goes better for you next time. I must say for your money, Happy Spa in B.C. is very worth it.

Poppa John
10-10-06, 01:29
Went and checked out the new Deja Vu tonight and got the bonus of seeing Tera Patrick dance. God Lord what a hot woman! Her dance left something to be desired, but she's still a hottie!

The renovated Vu is looking top notch. Not sure how much money they poured into it, but they did a pretty good job at it. The cover was $20 (I got there after 8 pm), and they had the normal group dancing. Tera was offering poloroids with her nude for $20, which was a bit pricy for me. Hey, I can say I've seen her in person-- what the hell am I going to do with a picture of her?

Anyway, if you get the chance, the Vu is worth the 'view' now. Can't give a report on the mileage from a dance-- I left pretty soon after Tera got offstage and the line to see her started.

Poppa

Poppa John
10-19-06, 20:50
Haven't been out in awhile-- been too busy and gone a lot. I'm sure the impending cold weather is going to slow down business a lot, but here's hoping not too much. I've been reading the Battle Creek entries every now and then and have come to realize that the short 25 minute drive over there just may be worth it. Anyone else (besides BC Tim of course), had any luck there? I'm talking outside of Happy and VIP.

Naughty
01-04-07, 17:03
This thread seems kinda dead. I wonder why?

Poppa John==>Popp a John==>Pop a John==>Bust a John==>Arrest a Monger

Hmm!!?

I'm not sure I'd have chose that name.

The Bs
02-22-07, 19:37
Just wanted to say that I have found one lady so far. Moved here about 6 months ago.coming back from the Vu and there she was. Nice lady bit older very willing and kinky. Not real attractive, but rock solid body. Worked a good BJ gave me her number, but have not been able to call back yet. Maybe I will tomorrow. Found her on Westnage just north of the Walgreen's. Walking back to the Motel under the overpass in Portage. She was willing to do it just for the ride back.

Paul1060Park
03-06-07, 09:48
Man, I would never look on Westnedge. You lucked out. Either that or I am out of touch. Does anyone else score on Westnedge?

Luv Chubby Girl
03-07-07, 15:58
In my years in the Zoo I have scored on Westnedge from as far north as Patterson to as far south as Howard by the Harding's. It's not a common thing, but it happens once in a awhile. You just need a good eye. Several of the girls have stayed at the Kalamazoo Inn over there. But as far south as The Bs is talking about is simply what many mongers encounter in there time on the streets, a fluke. On Westnedge, your best bet would be from Patterson to Ransom. Always be on the lookout and you will find them in areas you never thought of before. And always look out for Kalamazoo's scum, which would include the KPD.

Luv Chubby Girl, aka "The Shadow"

Luke20
03-12-07, 09:32
Does the Vu have private dances in private rooms?

Thanks

Paul1060Park
03-28-07, 12:06
Last night, I was driving on Crosstown near Westnedge and noticed a nice looking white lady checking out the cars that were driving by, about 9 pm. Picked her up and she was hornier than hell. "Shannon" she said she was called. FS was on the menu and it felt hot and good. About an 8 too, maybe even a 9. Very lucky. Dropped her off closer to downtown. Dark hair. A bit heavier than slim. Liked her tits sucked. I asked how I could see her again and she said I probably wouldn't. Oh well.

CruiserinGR
04-01-07, 09:57
Was this just a miracle or did you just get lucky and find the best sw in the most unlikely place? How old would you say she was?

Paul1060Park
04-03-07, 15:04
She was about 30 I think. Dark hair, bangs and hair in braids.

CruiserinGR
04-04-07, 07:29
What did that set you back lucky?

Paul1060Park
04-16-07, 05:47
40 after a bit of haggling.

Massage Man
05-30-07, 23:00
Visited Sprinkle Spa tonight, on Sprinkle Road south of I-94 on the right side. No table shower, have to shower alone. Massage was awesome and the best I have ever had. HR was offered with no mention of money, and was very, very nice. House fee of $.6 for 30 minutes, but was there an hour, and I tipped accordingly.

Hb Kid6
05-31-07, 12:44
Has anyone been the to the Sprinkle Spa, I stopped in but didn't have a good feeling so I left. Maybe just being paranoid.

Tweed998
06-06-07, 00:16
This is my first time posting and recently popped my monger cherry. I was out cruising tonight and decided to check out the Portage area, and it did not disappoint. I was very eerie about all the LE I saw but decided to outwit them. After 2 hours of seeing a few WSW's I took a turn and saw a youngin walking down in the Washington area. Cruised up and turned around and got the LOOK, so I waited in a parking lot for a second and turned around asking her "for directions", she just said whats up and I asked her if she needed a ride. I did the LE check and she asked what I wanted and FS was on and poppin. She did say to make it snappy and I just said whose paying here? After no haggling at all she gave a little BJ, which was rushed and I was in that snatch, which was smelly but alright. Probably just fuckin wrecked from her services. After a bit I popped and she was OUT. Went by the name Sara, and was 19 and very skinny. She was just waiting there asking for it so I gave it to her. For. 6 it was well worth the time wasted cruising around. Be on your toes tho, it seemed like LE knew I was cruising looking for the stuff. I just had to make a few quick moves to outfox them, they play the sit and see who drives by game and my car is easily recognizable. All in all a good night tho.

Mikd 73
06-11-07, 14:36
Cruised Portage last night between 9:00 and 10:30. At first didn't see much action, Le was radaring down by the you-haul store so watch your speed. Did see a WSW, was blonde and skinny didn't look too bad but she was gone after I turned around. There were a couple of BSW near the family dollar but nothing special. I turned down Crosstown and saw what might be a young hot WSW walking with two guys, she gave the look but kept on walking with the guys. At this point I decided to call it a night and headed back down Crosstown where I saw a really hot blonde WSW walking near the park where Vine and crosstown intersect. Tried to turn around on crosstown, by the time I did she was walking through a parking lot toward vine and some lucky sob picked her up. She was wearing a black top and short khaki skirt, would love to hear of any reports on her.

Mikd 73
06-28-07, 19:09
Cruised Portage this afternoon, saw 3 wsw. 2 of them seemed to be hanging together, one brunette 30's with tats on her arms and her friend older skinny blonde very tan.

Decided on the third wsw, blonde, red shirt and jeans. Picked her up walking near the vine/crosstown area. She seemed to be local talent said her name was Jessica. Paid .25 for bbbjcim great skills, she appologized for not being able to make a complete catch. After, I asked her for her complete menu and she said just about anything goes as she was hard up for money (seemed sober). Was able to get digits and will definitely repeat.

Chuck Carr Jr
07-28-07, 15:14
Trip to Kalamazoo proved fruitful and fun. After only a few minutes of cruising I picked up a SW on the corner of Carr and Portage (wonder if that would make my old man proud? ).

She was a Vietamese girl. Never picked up one of those before and gave me the name of China, said it was not her real name. Late 20's with lots and lots of tats. Took her back to my hotel for some fun. Told me she only does this when she needs crack (for most of these girls that means always). Much to my relief she said she had none on her. She was a good fuck with a really tight pussy.

She did have a few quirks. She did not let me finger her pussy while she was sucking me off until I went to wash my hands. Not totally unreasonable. But when we were done she wanted the condom. She took it went and washed it out and said she will reuse them if the next guy who picks her up does not have a fresh one. ICK! I'the recommend having one on you if you pick her up.

On the drive back to where I found her she did not talk much. She spent most of the time on her cell phone arranging to meet someone. I'the bet good moeny said person was getting the $$$ I had just given her in exchange for some crack.

TwistedBrother
07-29-07, 11:33
Man, I would love to be able to pick up an Asian. Usually you've got Koreans in AMPs, an occasional apartment massage artist in bigger cities, and that's about it. Crack ****** are always dicey, though. I hope you didn't really give her "$$$" ... I assume you were just referring to cash in general instead of 3 benjies.


Trip to Kalamazoo proved fruitful and fun. After only a few minutes of cruising I picked up a SW on the corner of Carr and Portage (wonder if that would make my old man proud? ).

She was a Vietamese girl. Never picked up one of those before and gave me the name of China, said it was not her real name. Late 20's with lots and lots of tats. Took her back to my hotel for some fun. Told me she only does this when she needs crack (for most of these girls that means always). Much to my relief she said she had none on her. She was a good fuck with a really tight pussy.

She did have a few quirks. She did not let me finger her pussy while she was sucking me off until I went to wash my hands. Not totally unreasonable. But when we were done she wanted the condom. She took it went and washed it out and said she will reuse them if the next guy who picks her up does not have a fresh one. ICK! I'the recommend having one on you if you pick her up.

On the drive back to where I found her she did not talk much. She spent most of the time on her cell phone arranging to meet someone. I'the bet good moeny said person was getting the $$$ I had just given her in exchange for some crack.

Wingman1
08-21-07, 01:55
I've had China twice, the last time was a few weeks ago. She is a great fuck (I had my own condom). Sadly, she has moved to FL.

Chuck Carr Jr
09-22-07, 11:00
Having had no luck in Battle Creek earlier in the night I decided to head to KZ hoping to get lucky.

See from the forum like BC not lots been happening here. Only reports since my last trip through town were comments on my report.

Tried China's phone and it was not working, so Wingman you may be right in stating she has moved on. I used $$$ to refer to cash not sure what the code is meaning this is $300. Think I gave her somewhere around 40, dont remeber this was a few months ago.

Went up and down Portage a few times and only thing I saw out was a black dude trying to wave me down. Not interested in anything he had to offer. Maybe it was the cold or just maybe I was unlucky. Wanted to be in far western Illinois the next evening so headed out of town still real horny.

Wingman1
09-27-07, 04:16
Picked up a tall, blonde, WSW about a block away from the SB on Wash. I rate her a 7, and the BBBJCIM was pretty good, set me back 2. 5. She didn't look run down by the street, and said booze was her vice. I'd believe it since it was near the SB and she was drunk. She looked to be early 30's. That was on Friday night.

About a week ago I picked up a red haired WSW on the North side while on my way to work in the morning. She was obviously coming down and looking for another fix so I thought I'd help her out. She said she was 20, and provided BBBJCIM for 2. 0.

About a month ago, I found a WSW on Portage. She provided BBBJCIM for 2. 0. She was a blonde and I'd rate her looks at a 6, and her service at a 3. It wasn't rushed, she just didn't have the skill. I gave her a ride back to her house and her step sister, BSW, was standing outside. I asked the WSW if her sister was working and she said yes. The BSW looked to be late 30's and a 7 on the scale. The BBBJCIM was 2. 0, and it was one of the best I've had from a pro! Made me cum in no time, she was very nice and easy going, and didn't rush me other than with her amazing tallents. I tiped her 1. 0 for the great service.

Sorry about the late posts, I've been pretty busy dealing with my ex-wife. I've been at fault too for not posting, but lets try to get this board going. The pickings seem to be slim lately, and we could all use the info.

TwistedBrother
09-27-07, 20:15
Good stuff.

Just an FYI ... I don't think most people will be too misled, given everything, but when you say "2. 0" people may think you mean 10x as much as you actually do.


Picked up a tall, blonde, WSW about a block away from the SB on Wash. I rate her a 7, and the BBBJCIM was pretty good, set me back 2. 5. She didn't look run down by the street, and said booze was her vice. I'd believe it since it was near the SB and she was drunk. She looked to be early 30's. That was on Friday night.

About a week ago I picked up a red haired WSW on the North side while on my way to work in the morning. She was obviously coming down and looking for another fix so I thought I'd help her out. She said she was 20, and provided BBBJCIM for 2. 0.

About a month ago, I found a WSW on Portage. She provided BBBJCIM for 2. 0. She was a blonde and I'd rate her looks at a 6, and her service at a 3. It wasn't rushed, she just didn't have the skill. I gave her a ride back to her house and her step sister, BSW, was standing outside. I asked the WSW if her sister was working and she said yes. The BSW looked to be late 30's and a 7 on the scale. The BBBJCIM was 2. 0, and it was one of the best I've had from a pro! Made me cum in no time, she was very nice and easy going, and didn't rush me other than with her amazing tallents. I tiped her 1. 0 for the great service.

Sorry about the late posts, I've been pretty busy dealing with my ex-wife. I've been at fault too for not posting, but lets try to get this board going. The pickings seem to be slim lately, and we could all use the info.

Wingman1
09-28-07, 02:05
My bad. I went out tonight, but things were dead around Portage. I checked out the north side too, but that was dead as well. On my way back to Portage I saw two BSW's at MI and Westnedge. Only got a good look at one, she was about a 5. Then I headed back to Portage and saw another BSW right on the corner of MI and the street that goes past the new theater down town. I'd rate her a solid 7, but something looked a bit off. She was sitting down when I came around the corner, and then stood up when she saw me. She gave me the look, but I didn't see her move in my mirror as I drove by. Her hair was a little too neat for most SW's as well. It just seemed a bit odd to see an SW in that area, not walking, and looking well kept.

Poppa John
10-22-07, 19:18
Okay, I've seen sublte talks about Sprinkle Spa, but has anyone actually been since before GM left? I know it just recently opened back up within the past 5 or 6 months, but what does it offer? Is Mama an ugly little thing that is only there for the HR, or is there some actual choice pickings? Something tells me you get what you expect in a town like Portage, but who knows.

Looking forward to anyone who has visited there.

Papa

Luke20
10-31-07, 08:00
Does anyone go to the Vu in the Zoo? And if so can they verify there is a petite Asian dancing there? I saw this on CL on the Grand Rapids side. If it's true sounds good.



HEY MY GIRL IS IN TOWN RIGHT NOW ONLY
SEXY AS HELL 19yrs 98lbs 4'11
long hair green eyes
FINE AS HELL
Call us now 616-916-2367
Sorry no photos but she is one of a kind
Right now a dancer at the Vu in K-oo

TwistedBrother
10-31-07, 10:57
I would like to drive down and give it a shot soon. I was by there a few months ago and saw it open, but I was on my way past Battle Creek and wanted to try VIP. Next time ... meanwhile, maybe you'll TOFTT??? :)


Okay, I've seen sublte talks about Sprinkle Spa, but has anyone actually been since before GM left? I know it just recently opened back up within the past 5 or 6 months, but what does it offer? Is Mama an ugly little thing that is only there for the HR, or is there some actual choice pickings? Something tells me you get what you expect in a town like Portage, but who knows.

Looking forward to anyone who has visited there.

Papa

MrVee
01-10-08, 02:28
Scanning this forum, does not seem to be very much info, and certainly not recently. I am (have been) checking all the local estab's this week. Sadly, nothing to report so far. Will keep researching and certainly post when (if) I find something.

V

Wingman1
01-15-08, 01:06
Haven't been out lately, but on the few times I roll through the areas there's nothing to be seen. Good luck.

El Monger
01-28-08, 17:00
I would like to drive down and give it a shot soon. I was by there a few months ago and saw it open, but I was on my way past Battle Creek and wanted to try VIP. Next time ... meanwhile, maybe you'll TOFTT??? :)
Anyone tried yet?

Kahuna11
01-29-08, 11:35
In response, I have tried it a couple of times. 60 door fee. No table shower, just stand up and you wash yourself. There is a suana to warm up in. Girls are mid 30's, nothing special. Nice massage with HJ on flip without asking for extra. Tipped. 40. Good for some relaxation, but not as much fun as I have had at Happy in BC or Hawaii by Lansing, but for $, not to bad.

Wingman1
02-21-08, 15:59
Found some action in Kzoo lately. Last week I found a nice BSW on the north side around 10pm. Looks were 8. 5 and service was 10! She was early 20's and looked like she hadn't been doing this for long. She didn't have a number to give. She was walking with a guy, probably her pimp. I gave her. 3 for BBBJCIM and it was worth every penny. I don't remember her name, but she was wearing pajama pants and boots.

Tuesday night I picked up a BSW on Portage by the gas station around 2:30 am. Looks were 4 and service was 6, but the only other option were to TVs by Grapevine, and that's not my thing. So I had to settle for what I could find. It cost me. 2 for BBBJNCIM.

Member #4967
03-04-08, 20:45
anyone got the scoop on these places. seen billboard on freeway?
is little darlings all nude like deja vu cept young hot girls??

NewLove24
03-05-08, 09:52
I was there a couple of months ago and it was the worst strip club I've been to in a long time. And I'm from GR if that tells you anything because our clubs suck. They had 6 girls working only 2 were decent looking and it was so cold inside the girls danced on stage with sweaters on. Took a chance on a vip dance and it was totally an air dance. Will not return.

Wingman1
03-05-08, 14:13
anyone got the scoop on these places. seen billboard on freeway?

As little darlings all nude like deja vu cept young hot girls??DV is all nude, no booze. LD is topless, with booze. They are connected by the same building, and you can go back and forth between the two which is nice.

CruiserinGR
03-06-08, 09:05
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CruiserinGR
03-13-08, 13:03
Tell me more about the action near the Grapevine thats "not your thing", it just might be mine. What would they score on the 1-10 scale? When are they usually around there? Any other info?

Wingman1
04-04-08, 18:18
Well, I went out the other evening before work and finally found something on the north side. BSW, 6 on looks. Gave. 2 for BBBJCIM. Service was a 9. She said things have been slow because of the cold, so maybe they will pick back up soon.

Mw Jrp
04-17-08, 23:27
Took a lot of rolling, but well after dark found her on Portage at the Grapevine. Hoped in, finally did the cop check, and off to my room. She has a place on Vine around the corner at the drop, but there was a guy with a big dog in the front. Better at my room. She agreed to .30 H&H. We got down to it. BBBJ was quite good, lapped the boys, took directions well. CFS was not working well for me. She was tight for a bigger gal, so went back to CBJ to a BBBJ; finally got to full mast, finished mish with a nice pop.

Rolled the northside and after dark lots of skanks to pick, not my thing, so took 1 more roll down Portage and finally found Bobbie. She says she's out mostly in the morning. I prefer young, thin, petite ones, but Boobie never whinned once. Price was right. .38 with the tip for persistence.

Be safe and good hunting. MW

Wingman1
04-26-08, 10:37
Finally found something in Kalamazoo. I was on Portage the other night around 11 and found Sherry near Grapevine. Tall brunette, WSW, mid 30's, 130ish, 7 on looks. Gave one of the best BBBJCIMWS that I've had in a long time. Gave her .2 and then another .1 tip after the deed was done.

Sonnyc
04-30-08, 21:54
I just found this site and thought I would share some of my experiences.

I've been in the trade for 7 or so years in the Kalamazoo area. I actually got popped by LE in my early days (it was all quite a shady incident).

Anyway, there's an WSW named Leslie that I used to see quite regularly. She is early 30s, maybe 5'2" to 5'4", nice small Bs, and a wonderful kitty! Not great at giving BJ (maybe a 6 at best), but good FS for $30-50 depending on he mood. Last time I saw her (couple of months ago), she looked bad though. Probably the pipe.

I usually have good luck off Portage Rd on Washington, Lake and Race streets. Most SWs are 5 or 6. Met up with one last week that was probably early 30s and gave good BJ, nice tits (Cs) with paw print tattoos and unrushed. Didn't get a name.

I've gotten some of my best BJs in that area. Usually bad luck on North side, although have been with a few over there. Used to do BBBJs all the time, but too much pipe smoking going on, gotta be safe.

Two SWs that I haven't seen in a while, but hope are still around are a WSW named Starla (great Ds!) and a BSW named Ernice. Both were later 30s and provided wonderful services for under $40. If anyone knows their whereabouts, I would love to hear what's up.

Anyway, I may go out tonight and will report back soon.

Happy, safe hunting fellow Mongers!

The Bs
06-05-08, 18:01
Rough year rougher girls.

So I lost the number of the chick with the rocking body and have been looking for a good on call girl. Got one, but she is fat so when ya got to then ok but man. Over the last year I did pick up one girl that was worth her weight in gold. Called herself Brittany. Dark hair rocking tight body got the number, but it seems like I cannot get her the message cause the folks just hang up when I say the name. Anyway seemed random and got her in. Took her back to my place and was so into her I waited her to turn around as she BJ'ed. She said she would if she could take a bath. I am like OK. Then she asked me to join her OK! So after we clean up she finishes but not in mouth. I did not care she was hot for a walker prob a 8 on a normal scale. If I could find her again I would throw down the bigger bucks to get a reliable number. Flipped her. 4 as it was. Had some other worthless ******. Went to the sprinkle last night not worth the cash. 6 at the door and. 60 for a HJ. Great if she was sold hot but that was not the case. Maybe a 4 on the normal scale. Anyway that is the update. Get most of my girls around the Grapevine anyone got anything else. What is the "North" side?

The Bs
06-05-08, 18:31
Finally found something in Kalamazoo. I was on Portage the other night around 11 and found Sherry near Grapevine. Tall brunette, WSW, mid 30's, 130ish, 7 on looks. Gave one of the best BBBJCIMWS that I've had in a long time. Gave her .2 and then another .1 tip after the deed was done.Need a good on call chick

The Bs
06-06-08, 10:29
Picked up prob the second best girl I have so far in Kzoo. Name Linda? Someing with an L. Nice girl fairly tight body. BJCIM, but I was not supposed to. She asked me to tell her when I was going to pop and then did not listen when I said. Once I did she did finsh the catch. Same story no number. Guess these girls are in this bis for a reason. Told her if she had a number I could call her and she would make more money, but the day they need the fix the phone will not give them that. It is a bis hun you need to meet the customers needs.

Sonnyc
06-14-08, 10:54
Man down.

Syphilis. Yep. Not sure who from. Wrap myself every time, but it's still possible to get. Just glad it ain't the herp. Be careful. I've decided to retire after many years on the beat. Funny how a scare like this can change one's thinking. Good luck and be safe mongers.

Sonny

Zacksecret
06-15-08, 18:53
There used to be a blonde girl that danced and worked at the old Deja Vu. She used to swing with her boyfriend Rob and they were very open.

Any updates.

Themage
06-26-08, 21:01
First I am surpriced no body is commenting on craigslist for the last two years.

On the other hand I really got pissed off today, I am trying to get a girl and every time I check craig list, I either find girls with criminal reviews (include mugging and cash and dash), or find the same phone number with changing pic or the same pic with a changing name age and phone number

I first decided to call aubery but then I find a post with aubery's but a totaly different girl and phone number, I email the same email as I emailed the original aubery before, and to my surpirce the new girl answer and say the other aubery is in jail, what? No they share emails!

Then I decide to call angela just to find out that the phone number listed (and price list) is different from the original angela ads.

What the hell is happening, I tried four times since I came to west michigan few month ago and the results were, two girls with incredibely bad attitude that made me leave the room in few minutes leaving my money behind, and two other girls who directed me to their incall location in grand rapids once and in lansing once just to refuse to answer my calls when I arrive their and let my hours of driving go in vein,

Even massage spa girls (both at vip), were upselling and one of them with incredibaly rushing.

On the other hand I hand great experiences with other girls in other cities, are the entire michigan like this or what? Aren't there any girls who are noth cash-n-dash or bait and switch, or won't get her pimp to jump in to mug you.

Electronman
08-18-08, 17:53
Any reviews of CL postings on August 18 for:


Specials All Day and Night, Ashley, 269-200-****

or for

Sensual Sexy Shay, 616-292-****

or for

"I am your pass to pleasure", 231-638-****

No Butts
10-17-08, 19:00
Fellow Mongers,

This my second post but I’ve been at it since the 80’s. Now, I travel most of S. MI Detroit to South Haven and north to Grand Rapids. I’ll post anything I see out there. Had a chance to look a little today but I’m savin my wad, cash too, for later in this week end.

Heres what I saw today.

Finished a job in Battle Creek early so I hit the stroll. Didn’t have time to partake so I was just looking. About 12:30p. M. Capital Ave North saw a BSW very straight hair, looked hot carrying a small pink bag. She was at the gas station by the BBQ place. Circled around she gave me the eye, but bags scare me. Saw a WSW maybe about 40, a 6 on the SW scale, brown flannel shirt jeans, light brown hair, by the salvation army gave me the smile and I circled around found her on South Union headed toward the park, got another smile. Went bsck to Capital 2 LE’s heading up Capital and one turned by the liquor store on Capital and East Ave I think that’s East Ave. I headed for my next job.

Next job today in Kalamazoo Northside after I finished I hit Portage. Saw a WSW light brown hair sweatshirt baggy jeans sitting on the curb by Grapevine. Got the smile and wave. I’ve seen her out before in the same area. Anyone know who she is? Circled around she a few times found her again at the Family Dollar Store thought what the hell lets do it made quick left, by the store SOB! Kzoo LE sitting about two blocks down. Back to Portage, by Town and Country market, HOT, maybe a WSW, 20’s, tight sweats, dark hair pulled back, MAN! Really shakin that ass as she walked gave me and others the eye. SOB had to go to another job.

Workin in Jackson tomorrow afternoon. Let you know what I find. Its time to bust one!

If you guys have any info on Battle Creek or Jackson let me know PM me

Thanks

Hypertension
10-20-08, 09:40
Let us know, may have to take a trip to Kalamazoo.

Member #3096
10-20-08, 20:43
Is Portage and Vine the only hot spot in Kalamazoo?

I just moved here from Lansing, where I know the stroll well.

Here not so much.

Is Velvet or any of the AMP's any good?

Electronman
10-26-08, 04:24
As best I can tell, not much mileage available at the local strips clubs, although I've only sampled Angels and the Vu. I know that the mileage is the Detroit clubs is good to excellent but that's a bit of a hike.

CL seems to have lots of warnings about questionable SPs in W. Michigan but not much about the good ones. Anyone have recommendations for good providers from CL or other sources other than the street scene?

Kzoo Moo
11-10-08, 20:52
Any body been to sprinkle spa recently? I tried this place for the first time last spring and wasn't too impressed.

The mamasan who answered the door took me to the room, had me undress and then back for a shower and sauna. Then back to the room for the massage. She was older. Maybe 40s. Not much of a body. I was expecting her to bring in another girl, but then she flips me and starts the HJ. I wasn't too in to it. This was all for the. 6 door fee. She never asked about more.

Are there other girls here? Anyone I should ask for?

Digitaltenshi
11-11-08, 13:31
Any body been to sprinkle spa recently? I tried this place for the first time last spring and wasn't too impressed.

The mamasan who answered the door took me to the room, had me undress and then back for a shower and sauna. Then back to the room for the massage. She was older. Maybe 40s. Not much of a body. I was expecting her to bring in another girl, but then she flips me and starts the HJ. I wasn't too in to it. This was all for the. 6 door fee. She never asked about more.

Are there other girls here? Anyone I should ask for?I haven't been there yet, but .6 including HR sounds like a great deal.

Chuck Carr Jr
11-16-08, 11:19
Hurt my hand a few months ago, making it difficult to type. So putting off non-work related typing, until now. So reports I am doing now are from the past several months and some of the intel may be a bit dated. Overall not been getting lucky as much as I would have liked to. Also some of the details may have gotten fuzzy over time.

Kalamazoo proved to be just dreadful. Was only in town for a few days and went out every night. I did see a few girls on Portage but they were all so ugly that I think I would have turned them down if they said they would put out for free. Also saw nothing down the road in battle Creek. Not making a seperate report for nothing there.

Member #3944
12-01-08, 14:58
I have noticed K-Zoo does not have much activity nor many reviews, has anyone seen this one. Any help about anything would help.

Thanks.

remember to take out "dot" and spaces, and replace with a "."

http://kalamazoo.craigslist dot org/ers/907542287.html

Alwaz Vice
12-05-08, 10:51
I saw a billboard about TSC (I think that is correct) on Sprinkle. Anyone have any 411 on this place? I'm assuming it's the old place south of 94, but it appears things may have changed? I'm not interested in going back to pay 60 so I can shower myself, get a half-a$$ massage and walk back out the door. Anybody taken one for the team all ready?

The Darq Ryder
12-10-08, 17:10
Provider asked all of the basic questions about if I had been there before, and what spas have I visited that she might recognize. After mentioning some places and names, she laid me out on the table, then came back in a nice black mini dress. She did a complete body massage which was actually very good. After awhile she asked if i wanted a hj it would be $60. I only had $40 which I showed her, and she took it but said i still owe her, and that the bad economy is really hitting them too. She dropped her top to show a pair of natural 36 D's which she allowed me fondle and pinch. She wouldn't let me see underneath her skirt or flash her bum, but she really put her effort into the release and it was very enjoyable.

Rooms are very private with REAL doors and decent lighting!

Alwaz Vice
12-11-08, 10:24
Provider asked all of the basic questions about if I had been there before, and what spas have I visited that she might recognize. After mentioning some places and names, she laid me out on the table, then came back in a nice black mini dress. She did a complete body massage which was actually very good. After awhile she asked if i wanted a hj it would be $60. I only had $40 which I showed her, and she took it but said i still owe her, and that the bad economy is really hitting them too. She dropped her top to show a pair of natural 36 D's which she allowed me fondle and pinch. She wouldn't let me see underneath her skirt or flash her bum, but she really put her effort into the release and it was very enjoyable.

Rooms are very private with REAL doors and decent lighting!Thanks for the update. I have to be up that way fairly often, so I'll have to check it out again; sounds like things have improved a great deal.

Alwaz Vice
01-06-09, 10:40
There are occasional ads for a "Cher lookalike" offering massage in SW MI. She's not *really* that much like Cher, but she's a very sweet woman, with many marvelous talents to her touch. She's very open-minded. Her goal is your satisfaction, and she doesn't watch the clock. I would highly recommend her for all your massage, relaxation and stress relief therapy needs.

Digitaltenshi
01-13-09, 13:39
Anyone had any luck with arranging to meet a dancer outside?

Thanks

Electronman
01-13-09, 19:00
Compared to Detroit, West Michigan seems pretty tame--what a shame. Anyone have any luck with mileage at any of the W. Michigan clubs such as Kzoo or GR?

Marcbu
01-22-09, 12:57
Has anyone been to happy lately. I haven't been there for a year due to bad service. Have been going to jackson. Are there any good providers there anymore?

TwistedBrother
01-22-09, 21:15
Has anyone been to happy lately. I haven't been there for a year due to bad service. Have been going to jackson. Are there any good providers there anymore?

No one's reported for awhile, but no reason to assume Lucky isn't still good. Read the reviews on the Jackson forum. BC has also been active with other spas, as you can read.

Actually, re-reading your post, you said you "have been going to Jackson" ... so what do you have to report from there?

Marcbu
01-23-09, 17:27
Jackson is always good. It is just a little bit of a drive and I was thinking that something new would be good for a change. I like going to lucky it is always a good time espacially when you see sonya or hanna. They are very good at what they do.

Massage Man
01-23-09, 22:09
Any recent reports on Sprinkle Spa?

Has anyone ever had fs there?

Iate Erbox
01-26-09, 13:04
Any recent reports on Sprinkle Spa?

Has anyone ever had fs there?Only been there once, and it was self serve shower and beg for everything else, ended with a HJ. I can't imagine it will be in Kalamazoo long with these kind of reviews. Personally, I'll make the drive to B. C. or Jackson.

TwistedBrother
01-27-09, 15:02
Interestingly, the other spas in Jackson have almost NEVER been reviewed on here and the few we've seen have been negative ... yet they remain open, to my knowledge. Hanna at Lucky is perhaps the consistent best in the state.

Sprinkle in Kzoo has been there awhile, but reports have been shaky.

Basically, you could assess the whole I-94 corridor from Jackson to Kzoo as one great spa (Lucky), then a bunch of mediocre/inconsistent ones.


Jackson is always good. It is just a little bit of a drive and I was thinking that something new would be good for a change. I like going to lucky it is always a good time espacially when you see sonya or hanna. They are very good at what they do.

Massage Man
01-28-09, 20:09
Only been there once, and it was self serve shower and beg for everything else, ended with a HJ. I can't imagine it will be in Kalamazoo long with these kind of reviews. Personally, I'll make the drive to B. C. or Jackson.I was there once last year, just wondering if anything had changed..apparently not.

Thanks for the update.

Kevinscott
02-15-09, 19:36
Has anyone been with Lyndsey before. I seem to remember hearing reports about her. I was planning on meeting her later this week. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

http://lyndsey.rare-escort.com/?fv

Spongebob357
03-05-09, 21:55
I have been out cruising the washington square area several times this week with zero results, I just got back and saw nothing. Am I missing something? Where did all the women go?

Member #3096
03-05-09, 22:36
Guy's I have to know, where the fuck are the girls in the town. Or at least when do they come out on Portage? I've driven up and down at all hours of the night.

Roger Greene
03-06-09, 09:57
Has anyone been with Lyndsey before. I seem to remember hearing reports about her. I was planning on meeting her later this week. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

http://lyndsey.rare-escort.com/?fv

I have meet Lyndsey before she had the baby. She was a great provider at that time. I may have to make a trip and see her again, she looks great even after the baby. Her oral skills are amazing.

No Butts
03-12-09, 16:50
Havent been through Kzoo in a few weeks but your about a month or 2 early. They hide in the winter. I've seen a thick BSW hangin in the family dollar parking lot and another thin bsw around town and country she carrys a cell phone and always gives the look usually around 9 or later. I havent been able to get a good look at her. Be careful always seems to be LE in that area.

Where are the girls in Kzoo

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guy's I have to know, where the fuck are the girls in the town. Or at least when do they come out on Portage? I've driven up and down at all hours of the night.

Bob G
03-17-09, 20:27
I went around Rose st and Church st. On Monday and seen a couple of BSW and one heavy WSW. Chose one of the BSW and had CBBJ for. 2, it's was just OK. I prefer WSW, but can't find anything decent around the Kzoo area. Does anyone have any tips or digits to help me out, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks guys

Alwaz Vice
03-18-09, 07:55
I was first in the door yesterday. .4 for 1/2 hour massage. No shower offered. Masseuse was a bit thick and blocky for my taste, but not bad. Very direct about things on the flip. .6 Seniors can PM for details of what that got and what might be gotten.

Pawpawman
03-19-09, 21:36
Dreaming I found Katie walking Race, and took her back to her place. Usual price, and worth it. Got her #, and on my way.

Snow Man
03-20-09, 08:28
I have meet Lyndsey before she had the baby. She was a great provider at that time. I may have to make a trip and see her again, she looks great even after the baby. Her oral skills are amazing.


Has anyone been with Lyndsey before. I seem to remember hearing reports about her. I was planning on meeting her later this week. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

http://lyndsey.rare-escort.com/?fv



I think she is working again; I've seen her ads on one of the boards (AE or EV), she goes by JustSoSexy

El Monger
03-20-09, 13:51
I think she is working again; I've seen her ads on one of the boards (AE or EV), she goes by JustSoSexy
That is NOT Jamie (Justsosexy). Referring to the other boards is not a good idea.....
FYI,,,,Lyndsey other board name is the same, LYNDSEY FKA LyndseyLindsy.
Here is a copy of a recent ad. Posted today about and hour and a half ago.


Check in for me is around 3pm

My Name is lyndsey I am 5'4 130lbs 34B with Long brown hair and red highlights, All this is wrapped in soft velvety skin waiting just for you!

Always fulfilling and I never rush always give you every minute you desire..

2X9-744-6492

Incall available!!!!

Member #3096
03-31-09, 22:50
Havent been through Kzoo in a few weeks but your about a month or 2 early. They hide in the winter. I've seen a thick BSW hangin in the family dollar parking lot and another thin bsw around town and country she carrys a cell phone and always gives the look usually around 9 or later. I havent been able to get a good look at her. Be careful always seems to be LE in that area.Thanks for the advice. I am new to Kzoo, so i am not used to the schedule. Lol, but you are right, the one thing I haven't had any trouble finding is LE!

Spongebob357
04-08-09, 20:26
Ran the stroll on portage, picked up jo jo (white, brown hair) about a 6 on SW scale. 3 for BJ, only problem was that she wouldn't shut up. God I hate that.

Snow Man
04-09-09, 13:29
Ran the stroll on portage, picked up jo jo (white, brown hair) about a 6 on SW scale. 3 for BJ, only problem was that she wouldn't shut up. God I hate that.

I think the trick to shutting up a SW is to keep their head in your lap and their MOUTH FULL

Asianplvr
05-15-09, 09:07
Do we have any old timers here that used to visit Deja Vu? I had a dream about when I use to see a girl named Jennifer Ford. Sweet little tight blonde. Last I knew she moved to Florida. Any info on her? . Has she returned?

Also, are there any girls there now that give mileage?

Snafu2
05-16-09, 10:03
Has anyone visited the Velvet Touch video store?

Snafu2
05-16-09, 10:07
Has anyone visited the Velvet Touch Bookstore off I-94 in Parma, MI? There was a big banner advertising $10 live shows. Was wondering if there was any fun to be had here other than watching.

I'll be making a few trips between Chicago and Detroit, so if anyone has some suggestions, let me know.

Snafu2

No Butts
05-19-09, 13:08
Has anyone visited the Velvet Touch Bookstore off I-94 in Parma, MI? There was a big banner advertising $10 live shows. Was wondering if there was any fun to be had here other than watching.

I'll be making a few trips between Chicago and Detroit, so if anyone has some suggestions, let me know.

Snafu2

My buddy and I had a few too many at the strip clubs in Jackson last winter. No luck with extras or take out at the clubs, too cold for SW's, decided to stop here. Two heavy girls, working and for a lame HJ it was around $1. We passed.

Bob G
06-09-09, 20:45
I just returned from NC and I can't find anything here in Kzoo. If you ever get to Greensboro NC, there are several motels off of Elm-Eugene st. where you can always find something. I worked in Greensboro for 5 years and always new some digits for some action, I've been here in Kzoo off and on for the last 5 months and don't have any contacts. am i looking in the wrong locations or is Kzoo the wrong town? Any help on Kzoo or surrounding areas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys.

Pawpawman
06-29-09, 07:44
Rolled through this area, and saw a few girls looking. I picked a WSW I had not seen before, but when I went to pick her up she was getting in another car. Nothing else was worth going for at the time.

Bob G
06-29-09, 21:21
What time were you cruising PawPawman, I've not seen anything lately?

Pawpawman
07-06-09, 12:47
What time were you cruising PawPawman, I've not seen anything lately?It was 2-2:30PM.

Sonnyc
07-07-09, 23:46
I've been out there for a while, and hopefully can offer some advice for Kzoo. I don't know what day hours are likely, but in Wash. Square, the best times are always 10pm-2am (although in the summer, earlier is not always better because a lot of kids are out, and you'll freak them out cruising by too much). LE is almost always around. At 2am, most bars close, so LE intensifies. Usually after 3am is less hectic. Check out Race, Jackson, Lake and Washington.

North - again heavy LE and not a good place to be a honky if pulled over. They know what you're there for. Frank St. is always a sure bet for "dreaming." Anywhere between Westnedge & Pitcher. Almost any time at night. Selection can be limited, but there are some winners. Less LE than Wash Square, though.

Always stay safe. There's some bad stuff going around if one isn't careful. I've been out of the game for a while now, but every now and then check up on the old scene. It's been pretty sure for years now, and will serve you well. Be safe, and always be smart (big head first).

Hope that helps.

Sonny

TwistedBrother
07-08-09, 01:09
Great report; thanks


I've been out there for a while, and hopefully can offer some advice for Kzoo. I don't know what day hours are likely, but in Wash. Square, the best times are always 10pm-2am (although in the summer, earlier is not always better because a lot of kids are out, and you'll freak them out cruising by too much). LE is almost always around. At 2am, most bars close, so LE intensifies. Usually after 3am is less hectic. Check out Race, Jackson, Lake and Washington.

North - again heavy LE and not a good place to be a honky if pulled over. They know what you're there for. Frank St. is always a sure bet for "dreaming." Anywhere between Westnedge & Pitcher. Almost any time at night. Selection can be limited, but there are some winners. Less LE than Wash Square, though.

Always stay safe. There's some bad stuff going around if one isn't careful. I've been out of the game for a while now, but every now and then check up on the old scene. It's been pretty sure for years now, and will serve you well. Be safe, and always be smart (big head first).

Hope that helps.

Sonny

Bob G
07-08-09, 16:55
Thanks Sonny, I've not tried Washington Square before so hopefully there will be a little action. I've tried Frank st. Area and usually only see BSW and only a 4 or 5 on a scale of 1-10. I may just be getting too picky.

Good luck to everyone.

Bob G
07-13-09, 18:51
Friday night from 12:00am to 2:30am, i checked Church st to Frank st area and the Washington Square area and only seen two BSW and they were about a 5 and one that was a 3 on a scale of 1-10 and also a white transvestite on Portage out front of the Tradewinds. I didn't see any WSW which is my preference. I'm about to give up on Kzoo and just stay at home.

Thanks for listening and good hunting.

CruiserinGR
07-16-09, 22:09
Was headed northbound on Westnedge when I spotted a smokin hot young blonde walking north on the west side of the road. I figured no way she was a sw but I was going to give it a go anyway just because she was so hot. Looked to be a college girl, maybe just over 5' tall, HUGE cans with monster nips that were on major highbeam. I spun arond and she gave me the look but then wouldn't approach the car, I don't know if something spooked her or what. Came back around for another pass and she put me on ignore but was checking out some guy in a truck. I tried again to come around again as she would have been walking into the speedway gas station area but then she was gone so I can't really confirm anything. I can tell you this, I would have given a paycheck for a shot at that. This got me going so I decided to hit Portage Rd and saw a couple of yucky slobs and since nothing even came close to the blonde I decided to call it a night and go home and do old ball and chain. (luckily shes pretty dang hot even those shes INSANE). [Deleted by Admin]

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Member #3096
07-20-09, 23:46
Cruising the north side of Kalamazoo around 2am ran into an older brunette on Frank and Westnedge. She was probably mid to late 30's. 5 or 6 on the SW scale. Her name was Starla and we went back to her place on DOuglas. It was $.20 for CBJCIM. Not bad, clean place. Easy going girl. She gave out her digits.

Tobydude1000
08-02-09, 23:01
Yes -- the lovely Velvet Touch or Velvet Fingers or whatever. It was scam in Lansing, where the operation first started and its a scam now as they try to lure you in with that big sign on the interstate.

First you pay for the room. Then anything above the fake massage they give you is extra. "Would you like to end the session" was repeated over and over after I decided that I'd spent enough for absolutely nothing. The girls were fairly good looking. Of course, when you stop to think about it, the scam isn't going to work with a lower scale babe.

Either save your time and money and skip this place or hope that one of those beautiful women will actually do anything for less than .1 and even then we aint' talkin' full service.

No Butts
08-15-09, 13:03
Went through Kzoo on the way home early Wednesday evening, went up Frank as suggested on the Kzoo board, saw a BSW hanging on a street sign just before Westnedge she was skinny and about a 3 and I'm being kind. Cracked out. Asking for rides as cars pulled up. Went up Portage saw a WSW, strawberry blond, looked like the same one that usually strolls that area, by the Dollar Store, she was wavin and shouting at cars too. If it is the same one she's put on about 30 pounds since last year.

Didn't partake, didn't want to and I was drained from my BC recon.

Stay Safe

Spongebob357
08-24-09, 14:23
Passed through Washington Square area around 5 pm saw absolutly nothing, not even the blonde girl with the big ass. Went down to the Frank st. area and saw nothing. Either the girls where already scooped or Leo was keeping thegirls away, saw at least three cop cars patroling.

I will go again after work, let you know how it turns out.

Spongebob357
08-25-09, 13:35
I was really ready for a great BJ today and had my hopes up for some sweet lip action. Passed through Washington Square area between 5 and 5:30 and saw two WSW both tall with dark hair and completely ugly. Definate pass. Went down to Frank st area and again nothing. Was it that long ago that good looking SW where available?

Macatawa
11-16-09, 01:13
Heard on the news last week of a bust in Kazoo.

Anyone else hear of it?

Sounds like there was a sting which "netted" ladies and guys in the Edison neighborhood.

Macatawa
11-20-09, 00:00
Heard on the news last week of a bust in Kazoo.

Anyone else hear of it?

Sounds like there was a sting which "netted" ladies and guys in the Edison neighborhood.Yes, here is the report.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/11/seven_arrested_in_prostitution.html

KalamazooPimp
12-11-09, 10:48
Angels offers extras in the vip dance.

Depending on how much your willing to pay,

But plan on spending about the same you would for a classy escort.

Tuesday-Friday 8pm 2am get a dance from raquel or lucy stage names!

Your welcome guys!

The more songs you get in a row the more time you have in the back room to haggle with the ladies!

Electronman
12-14-09, 13:56
Angels offers extras in the vip dance.

Depending on how much your willing to pay,

But plan on spending about the same you would for a classy escort.

Tuesday-Friday 8pm 2am get a dance from raquel or lucy stage names!

Your welcome guys!

The more songs you get in a row the more time you have in the back room to haggle with the ladies!This sounds too good to be true---- is it? Last I heard from Angels was a mileage crackdown.

Ghost7
12-29-09, 10:49
Are there any good strip clubs in Kalamazoo? I have a bachelor party planned at a golf resort this summer. I'm just wondering what are the best clubs in this area. I'm staying at a resort in Augusta MI, so Battle Creek clubs could be an option too.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ghost7

Kevinscott
12-29-09, 15:52
Does anyone have any info on bewitchinpsychic massages. I replied to a craigs list post and received a very promising reply. They are located on Otsego/ Plainwell.

Ks

Dayman
12-30-09, 16:17
Does anyone have any info on bewitchinpsychic massages. I replied to a craigs list post and received a very promising reply. They are located on Otsego/ Plainwell.

KsI was wondering about that myself since am around there often. Let me know if you go.

KzooDude101
01-01-10, 08:41
I was wondering about that myself since am around there often. Let me know if you go.It's Synergy a well known and "retired" escort. Also the same gal who created such a fuss recently when LE went to bust her and instead went thru with the appointment. Was a running story in the Kazoo Gazette. She had numerous LE as clients and gave up clients information.

Read up on her on ***********.

Macatawa
01-03-10, 01:56
It's Synergy a well known and "retired" escort. Also the same gal who created such a fuss recently when LE went to bust her and instead went thru with the appointment. Was a running story in the Kazoo Gazette. She had numerous LE as clients and gave up clients information.

Read up on her on ***********.Recently = about four years ago.

And yes, she was busted, but how much info she gave up is alleged. All of her troubles began because of an angry boyfriend.

Anyhow, as for her activities now, they seem to be all legit.

KzooDude101
01-06-10, 08:44
Recently = about four years ago.

And yes, she was busted, but how much info she gave up is alleged. All of her troubles began because of an angry boyfriend.

Anyhow, as for her activities now, they seem to be all legit.You must be one of her "sexy guys."

Her troubles with LE had nothing to do with an angry boyfriend. LE responded to her ad but went thru with appointment. She did turn over her computer and phone.
I believe the Gazette was running the story last summer even though it happened four years ago so yeah the story was somewhat recent.

I could bring up the bb and hiv rumors but will pass.

Waxon1
01-06-10, 18:14
Well since you did bring up the BB and HIV rumors please do dish.


You must be one of her "sexy guys."

Her troubles with LE had nothing to do with an angry boyfriend. LE responded to her ad but went thru with appointment. She did turn over her computer and phone.
I believe the Gazette was running the story last summer even though it happened four years ago so yeah the story was somewhat recent.

I could bring up the bb and hiv rumors but will pass.

Macatawa
01-07-10, 00:29
You must be one of her "sexy guys. "

Her troubles with LE had nothing to do with an angry boyfriend. LE responded to her ad but went thru with appointment. She did turn over her computer and phone.

I believe the Gazette was running the story last summer even though it happened four years ago so yeah the story was somewhat recent.

I could bring up the bb and hiv rumors but will pass.Actually, I never had the opportunity to meet her. While I was a member of Scorps back then and AES now, I was out for a few years. When I came back, I read and talked with a few about all that went down. And when you read the Gazette article it even alludes to her bf at the time who let them know of her illegal activities.

And bringing up rumors that have no basis. And may simply have been mentioned by you alone, is not quite a gentleman thing to do.

Personally, I would have no trouble getting a massage from her, but I also don't think it would be much more than that. So. What is the point.

Blackfire
01-07-10, 16:01
Synergy had quite a reputation...most of it bad. Though she looked good, she was pretty well documented to suck all the money she could from her "sexy guys". More than one reported she took them for alot of money, some were in the thousands of dollars. Albeit these guys were trying to buy affection from a prostitute, but anyone who sees her should be careful to understand she'll suck all the money she can out of you, and no matter what she says she doesn't really love you. The Bareback allegations are pretty well known and documented and were most likely true. The HIV/STD's allegations were always rumored about back-channel, but never had much substance beyond "rumor".

Macatawa
01-08-10, 00:19
Interesting to note....in today's paper (and on line at MLive), there is an article about "Carli." Seems her free psychic readings are not really free.

Personally, I don't think I would want to be on the wrong end of something not legal with her.

KzooDude101
01-09-10, 07:19
Synergy had quite a reputation. Most of it bad. Though she looked good, she was pretty well documented to suck all the money she could from her "sexy guys". More than one reported she took them for alot of money, some were in the thousands of dollars. Albeit these guys were trying to buy affection from a prostitute, but anyone who sees her should be careful to understand she'll suck all the money she can out of you, and no matter what she says she doesn't really love you. The Bareback allegations are pretty well known and documented and were most likely true. The HIV/STD's allegations were always rumored about back-channel, but never had much substance beyond "rumor".It is very well documented about her taking all she could from board members. Everything from vans, rented apartments, computers and large sums of cash.

I am speaking from experience about the bb. I scheduled an appointment with her in 2005 before her scams came to light. She attempted bb with me but I did not allow it thanks to common sense. I then started receiving emails and I'm's from her how she "missed me" and "couldn't stop thinking sbout me" yeah right. This after one appointment. I never saw her again after that.

The hiv rumors have been flying for a few years. I have no idea if they are true but it wouldn't surprise me with her history of bb'ing.

And her pictures have been so photoshopped they don't even resemble her. I do have pictures from other board members and if anybody saw them they wouldn't even consider seeing her.

I can post some if people are interested.

Travelrat
01-15-10, 09:47
I visited on Tuesday evening and found Jenny on Portage. Shes blonde around 5'6". This girl used to be very pretty, but drugs are taking their toll. Agreed to covered H&H for. 5 at my hotel room. Skills o. K. But she was not really into it. More or less needed the cash for drugs and was in a hurry to move along. Have digits if interested, but I will not repeat.

Spongebob357
02-25-10, 17:10
Haven't been cruising the stroll much lately, so I thought I would give it a try around 6 pm last night. I was surprised to see someone out. I appologize for not remembering her name, however she was very willing to do a CBJ for. 2. Good technique. About 30 or so, chunky-maybe about 160, but hey in kazoo beggers can't be choosers.

Nameless269
03-07-10, 05:42
Hi,

I'm not sure if this is or is not an AMP but there's a place called Fuji Spa located behind the Great Wall Express Chinese take-out joint just West of Stadium and 9th St.

Any experiences there by anybody?

Fettpett
03-08-10, 23:34
First post, just joined yesterday. I've been wondering about a massage at the Velvet Touch in Kazoo and how are the girls and what kinda services they offer with tips. Prices seem kinda high for a 30 min, so I was wondering if it would be worth it. I've gotten a striptease from Danielle, 40 for full nude, she's got some nice tits and seems pretty nice, but wasn't sure if it'd be worth the $$ for a session.

Thanks

Fettpett
03-08-10, 23:47
oops...stupid reposts

Humpty Dumpty
03-10-10, 09:43
What are the best streetwalker locations? And please be specific. Instead of "by the gas station" or "try Main Street" I like descriptions like "Try Main St from 15th Ave all the way until the dead end."

TwistedBrother
03-10-10, 15:12
Humpty comes to the Zoo? Let us know if you talk any ho-hos into your famous creampies.


What are the best streetwalker locations? And please be specific. Instead of "by the gas station" or "try Main Street" I like descriptions like "Try Main St from 15th Ave all the way until the dead end."

Bratley1055
03-10-10, 16:56
Humpty comes to the Zoo? Let us know if you talk any ho-hos into your famous creampies.
Is this the guy from Columbus??

Waxon1
03-10-10, 17:27
Save your money anyone in the know, knows the VT is a ripoff over prices and no service. you will be luckey if you even get a hand shake.
The VTs are sucker bate where ever you find one of these places.


First post, just joined yesterday. I've been wondering about a massage at the Velvet Touch in Kazoo and how are the girls and what kinda services they offer with tips. Prices seem kinda high for a 30 min, so I was wondering if it would be worth it. I've gotten a striptease from Danielle, 40 for full nude, she's got some nice tits and seems pretty nice, but wasn't sure if it'd be worth the $$ for a session.

Thanks

Fettpett
03-10-10, 19:43
Hey thanks, that's kinda what I thought but wanted to make sure before I dropped the cash.

Spongebob357
03-11-10, 10:51
Living in Kazoo posts a serious problem for mongers. We have few options here, so I know it is tempting to try to get mileage at one of our strip clubs or at the VT, I totally agree with Harmonic, don't waste your time or dollars.

I save up my monger dollars for occasional trips to the east side of the state, much more satisfying and a better use of our hard earned dollars. Hell I have gotten better mileage in BC, with a much better chance of finding a decent SW or getting a little grindage at one of their strip clubs.

Spongebob357
03-18-10, 12:02
Made the swoop through Washington Square area-nothing. I haven't seen anything in this area in a long time, Leo must be scaring the talent away. Went to the nothside and picked up Phoenix, a white SW around 30, avg looks, tall, brown long hair, glasses, about 150 lbs about a 6 on the scale. Got CBJ for. 2. Nothing to write home about, but got the job done.

Spongebob357
04-15-10, 20:39
Spring is in the air so I decided to roll for a while. First drove over to B. C. Went up north and south Capital, saw a WSW low twenties and cute, by the time I turned around she was gone. Further north I spied a 30or so WSW, went for the pick up but when she approached the car I decided to pull away, looked better from afar. Drove back home to kazoo and tried my luck in the Washington square area, Leo was everywhere. I did see one promising BSW, young and in shape. Tried to pick her up but couldn't seem to manage it with Leo so prevalant, guess I'll have to try another day.

Tobydude1000
04-25-10, 23:18
I can concur on the ripoff scene at Velvet Touch. Very attractive ladies, but the offers are sky high. First you pay for the room and her time. I think I paid for one hour, but all she could do is run her fingers in a circle on my back and ask me if I wanted to end the session. Several times. I offered her another. 4 to some contact. Anything but the tickle massage. No deal ''Would you like to end the session. " Shut the hell up ok? Gees. Get me out of her. Anytime you run into any club where the sign can be seen by a busy road. In this case Interstate 94, you are not getting anything cheap. Guranteed. Its the small out of the way places that have all of the gold.

Good luck.

Humpty Dumpty
04-27-10, 20:30
Is this the guy from Columbus??Damn right. Anyhow, I drove down Portage and saw 2 SWs. One white, one black and the other I could not determine her race. All within several blocks of the gas station and sandwich shop. They were all nasty. Then a whole shitload of cops came to that intersection due to a couple's drunken argument. No creampies there. Also, there wasn't shit on Westnedge. There wasn't shit in Battle Creek either, just a bunch of cops.

JS002
05-17-10, 12:59
I live on east side of Michigan so not all that familiar with B.C. or Kazoo area.
Tried to find Happy Spa and TLC and could not find either at all- is they hard to find?
Advertise on I-94 and I thought I followed directions but could not find it. Will go to my stand bys in Jackson but wanted to try something new...

Also tried Kazoo area but could not find anything by following the I-94 signs.

At one of those cities there was a place called (I think) arenas that looks like a strip bar or massage place with non-asian workers but did not stop cause I was looking for the AMPs that advertised on I-94. It was on Michigan avenue i think. Guess I should have tried it since NO luck!!

Any help would be appreciated- will be traveling again.

Rubnit
05-21-10, 19:29
Where are they? Last spring/summer I used to see lots of people mulling around on Westnedge north of the Metro club. I don't know if it was all just a neighborhood thing of neighbors being neighborly, but it seemed they had some hot black women paying attention to the cars driving by. Is this SW activity?

Is there a better street to find the SWs? I figure there has to be something I'm missing because there's GOT to be some WMU ladies in need of tuition funds. Where are they?!

I noticed something recently too I want to ask. What's with the endless parade of SUVs and modified 70's/80's cars that appear out of nowhere and decend on a gas station?

Spongebob357
06-01-10, 18:17
Saw May. Blonde with a big ass, in the Washington Square area, since it has been kinda draw this spring I picked her up. Her deal is that she wants to do CBJ, which is fine with me. Very talkative, had to put my dick in her mouth to get her to shut up!

. 2 was all I paid.

Happy hunting

Sonnyc
06-10-10, 02:48
Kzoo has been pretty slim lately. But there is still some fun to be had. .2'll get you french just about any night of the week to the north or in the "square."

I'm seeing a lot of posts from those who aren't lucky. I can't stress how persistence pays off. I know some SWs that just keep an eye on traffic and if they see you merry-go-round, they usually get in sight.

It isn't the same as it was back even a few years ago, for sure. But there are some out there. As I stated in the last post - after 3am is always decent because of lower bar traffic and LE.

This isn't an informational note so much as it is trying to provide some sort of inspiration. Hate to sound cliche, but in this economy, you never know what's going to be out there. Could be good for mongering. Best to wrap it up and take it! Good luck, folks!

Sonny

NeverTell
07-20-10, 18:36
Not exactly sure where to go in K'zoo for a cheap HJ but strolled up Westnedge from Mich Ave to Paterson. Didn't see anything except a police station. I remembered reading something on here about Park so drove down park. Saw one BSW but was being tailed by another car so I drove by. The other car stopped to talk to her.

I drove around that area just a bit I didn't feel comfortable. Actually felt dangerous to me so I left. Not sure I'll return to that part of town. Went looking for Washington Square but surprised that I couldn't find it on google. I drove around Washington Ct and Washington Ave but I don't think that was the right place. Any hints?

NeverTell
07-20-10, 23:02
Ok, decided to try the Park/Frank area again. LE was sitting in parking lot on Paterson with lights off. Turn corner and am confronted with another one driving south on Westnedge. He drove a couple miles behind me. I am sure he wasn't following me but two cops in twenty seconds was enough for me. I left the area again.

Decided to check out sprinkle spa. Problem, I only took 35 dollars with me to make sure I wouldn't be out any more than that with any SW I might have picked up. (I am new to SW scene but know enough to not have more money than willing to lose with me).

SS was still open. Asian lady is rather old, and not very good looking. Looks young because she is asian but must be over 50. I ask for rates (knowing I don't have enough) and she quotes 40 for 30 minutes and 160 for one hour. 160! Four times the cost for twice the time. I know the 40 must not include any extras and the 160 must be FS but I am only looking for HJ.

I decide to see if she could offer a quickie massage of 10 or 15 minutes at a much cheaper rate. She refuses. I asked a few times just make sure (been drinking a bit too much I think). She won't do it. I tell her I will go to the ATM (won't really cause she isn't cute) and ask for hug. She refuses. WTF.

Struck out again.

Saving my money for Detroit later this week (or maybe lucky spa in Jackson)

Tomking
07-24-10, 02:36
Teresa has been around the Washington/Crosstown area for awhile. I've dated her at least 5 or 6 times over the last year and a half. She's not the best looking SW out there as she's over 50. Plump but not too bad probably 5'3, 145. White, decent length brownish hair and no teeth. Well she has some ratty looking false ones but they're messed up too. She removes them when she gives oral.

When I first met her I thought it would gross me out when she said she had to take her teeth out but I was kinda desperate that night and pickings seemed very thin so I said, "whatever". Surprisingly it was very good! Now here's what I like about Teresa. Her own spot and it's safe. She's dependable. A working phone over the entire time I've known her. A fantastic blowjob. Most important to me- she's very passive. I love shoving my 9 inch cock down her throat making her gag. I keep telling her, "one day you're going to deep throat this meat!". She thinks I'm kidding but believe me I've had her eyes watering trying to swallow it all! I love squeezing her long nips also. Definitely worth your time! I'd put you in contact with her once I figure out who I can trust on this site. Anyway, she's in the Washington area- portage and crosstown area.

Tomking
07-24-10, 03:05
Naw I didn't get that lucky but I could have. Around 3 am I was driving from the North side if Kalamazoo to the Portage street area. I wasn't even horny I just like to see what's out there. It was pretty dead on the north side so I took Rose street toward the hospital. I turned left on. Shit I don't remember. It might have been Vine street? I'll try to be more accurate with my posts in the future. Anyway just before I got to Portage street I noticed a young girl standing in the middle of the street talking to. Her boyfriend? I circled around, to get a good look at her for the future. She walked over to me and asked could they get a ride. She was tall, about 5'6, probably about 160, dark long hair, kinda sleepy eyes. Not terrible looking considering she was only 19. Her friend it turns out was also a girl. She had a dike looking short cut and sandy brown color. She was about 5'0 and probably weighed 140. She wAs only 18. Neither was going to get mistaken for Megan fox but they had the attractiveness of real youth in their face and both had e trembly big tits. Probably both had D's or DD's. I gave them a ride up Westnedge toward the cork area as one of them lived there with her parents and the other was staying the night. On the way, the shortest one kept saying she doesn't want to go home it's boring there. After about 10 minutes she was asking me' " do I have to go home? ". I told them it was a bad night for me, but I could see she really didn't want to go home. I told them maybe some other time but the short one was persistent. I finally asked them what are we going to do if I take you to my house? The short one said," shit, I don't care! Anything!". I said, "anything? ". She said, "yeah anything.". I asked the other one, you too. You'll do anything? She said "yeah, whatever. Let's just go do something cause we're almost at my parents house.".

The problem was I was totally bluffing as I live with my girlfriend and I had no time for that type of activity even though the way they were talking wS getting me' very, very horny. 18 and 19 DAMN! Too make a long story short I dropped them off at their parents block and watched them walk away. The short one looked back a few times hoping I would change my mind but it was really bad timing for me'.

The point is, I think this type of situation happens. Not often but it can and will happen again. I see tons of young girls out at 3/4 in the morning. Not necessarily hooking just looming for some fun. Maybe ne t time I'll rely have a good story to share.

Tomking
08-08-10, 05:10
Spent time tonight at Wayside West and the casino in Battle Creek and these young girls in the short shorts or the super minis are fuckin gorgeous!!!!! There is no way you can go to either of those places and NOT leave there super fuckin horny! It's unREAL!

Tomking
08-10-10, 05:40
My girlfriend has so many chains on me' I might as well be Kunta Kinte. Am I missing anything out there? Kalamazoo is so dead lately. Anyway. A guy walks into a pharmacy.

Guy. "I need condoms for my 11 year old daughter.

Pharmacist. "Your 11 year old daughter is sexually active?"

Guy. "Naw, she just lays there. Just like her mom."

I know. I know.

T/k

CruiserinGR
08-18-10, 23:28
Apparently she works as a "massage therapist" somewhere in the zoo. Anyone recognize her? I got this pic in an email about a party I missed that was supposedly hot but I'm not so sure it was all that.

Sexsampler
09-21-10, 23:39
With all the bad reports on the TLC Spa on Sprinkle Road, you would think that no one would be foolish enough to TOFTT. Well I did and I'm glad! Met Hanna (not of Jackson lore). About 30yrs, 5'6", spinner, A cups and a pretty face. Very friendly and approachable.

Mamasan and the thicker girl were also there but managed to avoid them. And, there is a table shower. Things are looking up.

H5153
09-23-10, 07:47
With all the bad reports on the TLC Spa on Sprinkle Road, you would think that no one would be foolish enough to TOFTT. Well I did and I'm glad! Met Hanna (not of Jackson lore). About 30yrs, 5'6", spinner, A cups and a pretty face. Very friendly and approachable.

Mamasan and the thicker girl were also there but managed to avoid them. And, there is a table shower. Things are looking up.You mean to tell me there is someone new there now? I frequented this spa a few times and saw only one lady plus the mamasan of which neither were my cup of tea. The first time there was a late 30's lady who was very to the point and methodical, but the second time it was a 40 something year old who offered only the usual yummyumm, climbed aboard for a special number situation, but was apparantly only for looks as I proceeded on my end she quickly said "no no" and jumped down to a disappointing finish. Anything new, I might have to go back! Pid .4 and wanted an extra $ negotiated to .6

Happy Hunting!

Rubnit
09-23-10, 18:16
This place intorduced me, for better or worse, into the wild wild world of AMP adventures. Overall very lackluster. Boring solo shower. Boring "handlers". Don't remember any of the names as they were not very memorable to begin with.

The ONLY awesome event was one night I was "relaxing" and in the room nextdoor I heard a moan that slowly swelled in volume and creshendo'd into a panicy "Ahhh. AHHHHHHHH. Wha. Wha. What? " I thought this sounded quite odd and into my little room storms the massage lady from the room next door and unleashed a "Kwohhh xchiaaa don pung naaa powgong guk touh pa nod kong paa blah blah blah". The lady rubbing me started laughing and then the lady that burst in started laughing and quickly exited and stomped down the hallway toward the shower. Puzzled, I asked my rub lady what that was all about. Quick side note, when the lady burst in and started chatting with my rub lady I was laying on my back with my member standing tall. And I kinda like that little bit of humiliation. Like having the secretary at a doctors office pop her head in to say there's a call for so and so and the doctor has me standing with my pants and underwear around my ankles and I'm reaching high up toward the ceiling and he's taking notes on something.

Anyway. I asked what happened. My rub lady giggled and said "She need to go get water fast". Ok. She needed to get a drink of water?! I wondered why that made the guy start panicing and yelling. I asked, "She was thirsty? " and my rub lady laughed and said, "No no no. She need water to put on his dingk dohng. " I won't go into phonetic spelling of the rub lady's response, but what happened was the other guy's rub lady aparently excused herself for a second to do something with dinner. And she ended up cutting up a bunch of peppers. I'm assuming habaneros or jalapenos. Well she didn't wash her hands before returning and giving gentle attention to the guy's magic stick. OH DAMN I can imagine the burn.

And, part of me wonders if that little technique costs extra. As I'm curious.

H5153
10-04-10, 09:11
Well I took the drive by after the last report and things have inmproved... some. Met with Nicki, she was decent looking until the top came off, has some mileage. CFS was available, but a little pricey. .6 for door, 1.8 for CFS, settled for 1.0 after an offer of .7 for HE. She kept talking about her boyfriend which made things uncomfortable and very mechanical.

Stay safe out there!

No Butts
11-27-10, 12:02
This report of a bust in Chicago Lists a Jennifer Smith of Kalamazoo. The link below should get her mug shot. If not try the Chicago Tribune online. Just curious if anyone knows of her.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-mug-photogallery.0, 5488047. Photogallery.

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UPDATE: Naperville police charge 20 as part of FBI operation.

By Mick Swasko TribLocal reporter Nov. 12 at 1:30 pm.

Naperville police said 19 have been apprehended and a warrant has been issued for the remaining suspect. While the purpose of the operation was to identify juveniles forced into prostitution, no juveniles were arrested in Naperville, police said.

The effort known as Operation Cross Country V included 40 cities across 34 FBI divisions around the country, Naperville police said in a press release. (More: Police arrest alleged prostitute in Gurnee)

The release said six FBI agents from the Lisle office worked with Naperville police to arrest the individuals on charges involving pimping, prostitution and drugs.

Naperville Police Cmdr. Gregg Waitkus said the arrests were at several north side hotels and investigators used 'various media sources' to arrange meetings with those suspected of soliciting prostitution.

The operation occurred from about noon to 8 pm Nov. 4, he said.

Arrested were Delia F. Karpes. 18, of Zion, charged with prostitution; Mariesha L. Wright. 20, of University Park, charged with prostitution; Issac J. Turnbo. 23, of Chicago, charged with pimping; Hsiao-Ling Hsieh. 34, of Minneapolis, Minn, charged with prostitution; Roydell M. Greenhill. 42, of Muscle Shoals, Ala, charged with pimping and resisting a peace officer; Shiree L. Jarvis. 20, of Shorewood, charged with prostitution; Christopher M. Niziolek. 36, of Hoffman Estates, charged with attempted pandering; Donesha S. Baker. 19, of Chicago, charged with prostitution; Tiffany V. Pierson. 22, of Chicago, charged with prostitution and obstructing identification; Lillie Ames. 21, of Chicago, charged with attempted pandering and driving while license suspended; Anita J. Lee. 36, of Chicago, charged with attempted pandering, obstruction identification and warrant service; Jennifer N. Fox. 31, of Fort Worth, Texas, charged with prostitution; Joseph R. Goodrich. 31, of Carollton, Texas, charged with pimping; Nikki L. Igbokidi. 21, of Naperville charged with possession of a controlled substance and possession of drug paraphernalia; Tad T. Johnson. 37, of Yorkville, charged with possession of a controlled substance; Jennifer E. Smith. 22, of Kalamazoo, Mich, charged with prostitution; Kristina R. Klavon. 25, of Aurora, charged with prostitution; Monserrat B. Arreola. 23, of Romeoville, charged with attempted pandering and resisting a peace officer and Jean-Marc F. Fasion. 24, of Aurora, charged with attempted pandering and resisting a peace officer.

A complaint and arrest warrant has been issued for Crawford J. Moore. 32, of Waukegan, on charges of with driving while license revoked and reckless driving, Waitkus said. Police said Moore allegedly dropped another one of the arrestees off and drove his vehicle over a median, resulting in the reckless driving charge. Waitkus said police did not pursue him because they knew who he was.

Gutenberg469
12-19-10, 11:15
Saw place advertised; looked like an interesting oasis. Any providers that go there? Suggestions? I know I'm new, so info will be limited. Even a worth pursuing or not is appreciated.

(BTW, place in belvidere IL has hot tub; worth the stop. There are 2 in bdere; only 1 is good. Check reviews; worth it if within 50 miles or so. I can't recall which is the better; reviews will show. I used to travel in that area; no more. No home runs, but can get on 3 other bases. Bdere is by Rockford.)

BigMBoyd
02-07-11, 15:46
I've seen her photo in a few local BP ads, but I've never tried to contact her.


Apparently she works as a "massage therapist" somewhere in the zoo. Anyone recognize her? I got this pic in an email about a party I missed that was supposedly hot but I'm not so sure it was all that.

Pussyscout
02-13-11, 03:32
Judging by her hair in the booking photo my guess would be maybe that girl Stacy that posts on back page but I just guessing.


This report of a bust in Chicago Lists a Jennifer Smith of Kalamazoo. The link below should get her mug shot. If not try the Chicago Tribune online. Just curious if anyone knows of her.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-mug-photogallery

0, 5488047. Photogallery.

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UPDATE: Naperville police charge 20 as part of FBI operation.

By Mick Swasko TribLocal reporter Nov. 12 at 1:30 pm.

Naperville police said 19 have been apprehended and a warrant has been issued for the remaining suspect. While the purpose of the operation was to identify juveniles forced into prostitution, no juveniles were arrested in Naperville, police said.

The effort known as Operation Cross Country V included 40 cities across 34 FBI divisions around the country, Naperville police said in a press release. (More: Police arrest alleged prostitute in Gurnee)

The release said six FBI agents from the Lisle office worked with Naperville police to arrest the individuals on charges involving pimping, prostitution and drugs.

Naperville Police Cmdr. Gregg Waitkus said the arrests were at several north side hotels and investigators used 'various media sources' to arrange meetings with those suspected of soliciting prostitution.

The operation occurred from about noon to 8 pm Nov. 4, he said.

Arrested were Delia F. Karpes. 18, of Zion, charged with prostitution; Mariesha L. Wright. 20, of University Park, charged with prostitution; Issac J. Turnbo. 23, of Chicago, charged with pimping; Hsiao-Ling Hsieh. 34, of Minneapolis, Minn, charged with prostitution; Roydell M. Greenhill. 42, of Muscle Shoals, Ala, charged with pimping and resisting a peace officer; Shiree L. Jarvis. 20, of Shorewood, charged with prostitution; Christopher M. Niziolek. 36, of Hoffman Estates, charged with attempted pandering; Donesha S. Baker. 19, of Chicago, charged with prostitution; Tiffany V. Pierson. 22, of Chicago, charged with prostitution and obstructing identification; Lillie Ames. 21, of Chicago, charged with attempted pandering and driving while license suspended; Anita J. Lee. 36, of Chicago, charged with attempted pandering, obstruction identification and warrant service; Jennifer N. Fox. 31, of Fort Worth, Texas, charged with prostitution; Joseph R. Goodrich. 31, of Carollton, Texas, charged with pimping; Nikki L. Igbokidi. 21, of Naperville charged with possession of a controlled substance and possession of drug paraphernalia; Tad T. Johnson. 37, of Yorkville, charged with possession of a controlled substance; Jennifer E. Smith. 22, of Kalamazoo, Mich, charged with prostitution; Kristina R. Klavon. 25, of Aurora, charged with prostitution; Monserrat B. Arreola. 23, of Romeoville, charged with attempted pandering and resisting a peace officer and Jean-Marc F. Fasion. 24, of Aurora, charged with attempted pandering and resisting a peace officer.

A complaint and arrest warrant has been issued for Crawford J. Moore. 32, of Waukegan, on charges of with driving while license revoked and reckless driving, Waitkus said. Police said Moore allegedly dropped another one of the arrestees off and drove his vehicle over a median, resulting in the reckless driving charge. Waitkus said police did not pursue him because they knew who he was.

Zensual
05-14-12, 12:41
I've been an adult photographer for years in Kalamazoo and I often get women asking me how to get into the biz, most times I've just told them move to a bigger city but of late almost every single girl has asked and there have been some stunners coming through my doors. Just want to pose a question to the community, what would you tell these wayward desperate souls? For instance just took some pics of a 19 year old petite asian and she has been begging me to hook her up with contacts whether it be in the adult business (which I have very few there) or escorting. What would you do?

Doyle30
05-15-12, 00:50
I've been an adult photographer for years in Kalamazoo and I often get women asking me how to get into the biz, most times I've just told them move to a bigger city but of late almost every single girl has asked and there have been some stunners coming through my doors. Just want to pose a question to the community, what would you tell these wayward desperate souls? For instance just took some pics of a 19 year old petite asian and she has been begging me to hook her up with contacts whether it be in the adult business (which I have very few there) or escorting. What would you do?I'd give her contact info to me.

Azear
05-15-12, 01:26
I've been an adult photographer for years in Kalamazoo and I often get women asking me how to get into the biz, most times I've just told them move to a bigger city but of late almost every single girl has asked and there have been some stunners coming through my doors. Just want to pose a question to the community, what would you tell these wayward desperate souls? For instance just took some pics of a 19 year old petite asian and she has been begging me to hook her up with contacts whether it be in the adult business (which I have very few there) or escorting. What would you do?In reallity, if they are not already "in the business" I'd try to discourage any of them from starting. As much as I and many others enjoy meeting young and beautiful ladies, it's not the best of jobs. It's all fun and games until someone has intentions other than fun. Too many young girls have ended up in the hospital because some guy robbed and beat them.

Most of these ladies are hooked on different illigal substances and are doing it out of a burning need for more drugs.

Look at the ones that are out there. Some of those 35 to 40 year olds are only 25 to 30. It takes a toll on the body.

But, most women do have a mind of their own, so if they are determined, they'll figure out how to get started. Everyone out there now found a way to get started.

Ron

Luvmonger
05-15-12, 11:58
I've been an adult photographer for years in Kalamazoo and I often get women asking me how to get into the biz, most times I've just told them move to a bigger city but of late almost every single girl has asked and there have been some stunners coming through my doors. Just want to pose a question to the community, what would you tell these wayward desperate souls? For instance just took some pics of a 19 year old petite asian and she has been begging me to hook her up with contacts whether it be in the adult business (which I have very few there) or escorting. What would you do?I also do adult photo work and additionally generate websites for these ladies. I think it's far better to help them get started cleanly than let them wander around on back page or CL. I have developed some nice friendships with some spectacular girls and find they enjoy having someone who gives a damn helping them out. I'm single so it's a lot easier for me to do than others- but I say sign them all up! Get them off and running, the more the merrier and it will help keep the costs manageable for us mongers. Plus its fun to be one of the guys who is introducing them to the hobby, great fringe benefits.

Cheers,

Santa

Alwazvice
05-21-12, 16:55
I have mixed emotions, and think it would depend on the person. IF they are started out right, and introduced to the right men, going into escorting can be a rewarding career for women that choose it. IF they're started out wrong they're abused, turned into junkies and ruined at an early age. So, having someone who gives a crap help them find their way can be a good thing.

19 year hot petite asian? Send her my way.


I've been an adult photographer for years in Kalamazoo and I often get women asking me how to get into the biz, most times I've just told them move to a bigger city but of late almost every single girl has asked and there have been some stunners coming through my doors. Just want to pose a question to the community, what would you tell these wayward desperate souls? For instance just took some pics of a 19 year old petite asian and she has been begging me to hook her up with contacts whether it be in the adult business (which I have very few there) or escorting. What would you do?

Packerbacker
05-21-12, 19:25
I've been an adult photographer for years in Kalamazoo and I often get women asking me how to get into the biz, most times I've just told them move to a bigger city but of late almost every single girl has asked and there have been some stunners coming through my doors. Just want to pose a question to the community, what would you tell these wayward desperate souls? For instance just took some pics of a 19 year old petite asian and she has been begging me to hook her up with contacts whether it be in the adult business (which I have very few there) or escorting. What would you do?Yeah but most of these girls are looking at making a Madam's Price for session's. Not going to happen with the guys on here at all. Ha Ha Most on here balk at a girl saying $250 an hour so tell them Yeah there is money to be made but the kind they think their going to make in West Michigan.

Bob G
07-17-12, 16:52
A few years ago, there were several other websites other than backpage that had escorts advertising on in the Michigan area. I haven't been here in a few years and can't remember the names. Could someone PM me if you know of the other major sites to use? Thanks for any help.

Nwboldtd
07-17-12, 21:45
Here are a few. Sipsap. Com. Sexyescortads. Com. Localescortspages. Com. Cityguide. Com try them

Zensual
09-06-12, 15:30
I know a girl in Norton Shores area of Muskegon that is looking for a ride to Kalamazoo this weekend and she would definitely show her appreciation to someone that could give her that ride on a personal level. If you are interested PM me. She's 20yo 5'6 130 pounds adorabley cute.

Daytriper
09-17-12, 20:03
I know a girl in Norton Shores area of Muskegon that is looking for a ride to Kalamazoo this weekend and she would definitely show her appreciation to someone that could give her that ride on a personal level. If you are interested PM me. She's 20yo 5'6 130 pounds adorabley cute.I am heading to Muskegon this coming week end. If she still need a ride.

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01-13-13, 22:38
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KzooDude101
01-16-13, 19:15
I cannot find any info at all in regards to closing. My question is, is there a replacement site? Any info is appreciated. Please pm if you are not comfortable responding here.

Thanks

Spongebob357
01-16-13, 20:31
I cannot find any info at all in regards to closing. My question is, is there a replacement site? Any info is appreciated. Please pm if you are not comfortable responding here.

ThanksThey are back up my friend.

Happy hunting!

Electronman
04-27-13, 04:27
I saw a news report on Channel 3 (Kalamazoo's ultra-sleazy local news station) about a sting operation in which an undercover law enforcement officer calls a BackPage advertiser and sets up an appointment at a local motel. The motel has been bugged with video / audio recording devices. When the woman appears and agrees to a pay for play arrangement, the cops open the door and arrest her. Of course, Channel 3 broadcasts the footage of the women being arrested in a motel room and charged with prostitution. Very sensationalized news coverage and equally questionable law enforcement priorities in my opinion.

BadBoyFourU
04-27-13, 13:43
I saw a news report on Channel 3 (Kalamazoo's ultra-sleazy local news station) about a sting operation in which an undercover law enforcement officer calls a BackPage advertiser and sets up an appointment at a local motel. The motel has been bugged with video / audio recording devices. When the woman appears and agrees to a pay for play arrangement, the cops open the door and arrest her. Of course, Channel 3 broadcasts the footage of the women being arrested in a motel room and charged with prostitution. Very sensationalized news coverage and equally questionable law enforcement priorities in my opinion.Pretty standard type of sting operation and has been the norm for years. Sex trafficking is a HUGE hot button topic right now if you have not noticed and will only become more so IMHO until something more pressing takes over the spot light. Tang chasing is risky!

Asianplvr
04-27-13, 15:14
I saw a news report on Channel 3 (Kalamazoo's ultra-sleazy local news station) about a sting operation in which an undercover law enforcement officer calls a BackPage advertiser and sets up an appointment at a local motel. The motel has been bugged with video / audio recording devices. When the woman appears and agrees to a pay for play arrangement, the cops open the door and arrest her. Of course, Channel 3 broadcasts the footage of the women being arrested in a motel room and charged with prostitution. Very sensationalized news coverage and equally questionable law enforcement priorities in my opinion.Thanks for the report, serves as a good reminder for us all to be careful.

BlAngo
07-24-13, 21:07
Any one have an experience with Ms Vixen? Surprised not to see her mentioned on here in the kzoo section.

TheBrad69
07-25-13, 07:05
Any one have an experience with Ms Vixen? Surprised not to see her mentioned on here in the kzoo section.I believe she is from the sturgis area, I've met her twice. 1st was car date & she swallowed it all. 2nd was a duo. I'd really like to see her cousin again.

She is a bit wild if your into that, nice body, some belly wear (3or4 kids) but not bad

Kenss
07-26-13, 21:54
I haven't seen Ms. Vixen in a while, but she provides a great appointment. Haven't had time to drive out to her in Sturgis, and sometimes long delays until she is ready.


I believe she is from the sturgis area, I've met her twice. 1st was car date & she swallowed it all. 2nd was a duo. I'd really like to see her cousin again.

She is a bit wild if your into that, nice body, some belly wear (3or4 kids) but not bad

Spongebob357
08-07-13, 12:55
Was just looking at the Ashley Madison site and wondered if anyone has actually used it and had any success?

Macatawa
12-23-13, 16:02
ISO a woman with puffy nipples who also enjoys kissing and DATY. Preferably in Kalamazoo, BC or surrounding area. Grand Rapids is also acceptable but a little farther for me. Does anyone know of one? Please email me with a name. I really appreciate it.

RockerBh
12-24-13, 03:15
Was just looking at the Ashley Madison site and wondered if anyone has actually used it and had any success?Very expensive. I got no where with the limited funds I was willing to put in to it.

Macatawa
01-13-14, 13:43
I had the privilege of meeting with No Nonsense Lady a few days ago, and yes, it was a privilege. She advertises under the Escort Classified section here.

If you have never met with her, then you have not enjoyed the company of someone who truly cares about her clients. She is a BBW with an emphasis on the second be: I find her to be beautiful. From the moment she opened the door to the moment she closed it behind me, I felt that I lived a brief hour of a fantasy.

I knocked on the door and she opened it and let me in the room. Her eyes met mine and she gave me a hug and a kiss. Immediately, I felt that she cared as she checked if I "cared." LOL She was easy to talk with and made me feel relaxed. I noticed that she had just come out of the shower and was fresh smelling and soft. She has a beautiful smile with eyes that convey her friendliness and passion.

We soon got to know each other better and I realized that she meant what she said when she told me that her goal was to please her customers. What I seek is an hour of escape from reality, and she provided it with skill.

The details are hers and mine to remember and may not be yours, but IMO I think you would be enjoy an hour with her and never regret the appointment. Her rate is exceptional and anyone who attempts to lower it should be embarrassed IMO. Time spent with her is more than worth every penny paid.

Thanks, NNL, for an exceptionally enjoyable hour. I appreciate the privilege!

Macatawa
02-10-14, 13:53
Repeated with No Nonsense Lady and had another great time.

All of the details below can apply to my second visit.

If you like a sweet and exciting BBW, then you will like NNL.

A great woman for an awesome time!

NoNonsenseLady
02-10-14, 15:32
Repeated with No Nonsense Lady and had another great time.

All of the details below can apply to my second visit.

If you like a sweet and exciting BBW, then you will like NNL.

A great woman for an awesome time!Thank you so much for your thoughtful words! I have enjoyed our visits as well, and I appreciate your taking the time to let others know, too!

Macatawa
03-19-14, 14:16
I really want to find someone in the Kazoo area that gives a great massage which may or may not have a happy ending but allows undraped. It should also be at her house.

This is hard to find.

There is something about lying there while a woman massages your body all over. This is a completely different feeling than actually participating yourself. Not that I mind participation, but I really want the massage experience.

If anyone has a name, feel free to PM me or post. I would really appreciate it.

Member #4753
06-07-14, 20:14
I really want to find someone in the Kazoo area that gives a great massage which may or may not have a happy ending but allows undraped. It should also be at her house.

This is hard to find.

There is something about lying there while a woman massages your body all over. This is a completely different feeling than actually participating yourself. Not that I mind participation, but I really want the massage experience.

If anyone has a name, feel free to PM me or post. I would really appreciate it.I just might be your girl if you are into bigger girls. Not huge, just fuller figured. Message me if you like.

Biscuit123
07-24-14, 21:56
Any recommended providers for this weekend.

DvlDogg05
09-17-14, 15:38
I am looking for the exact same thing.


I really want to find someone in the Kazoo area that gives a great massage which may or may not have a happy ending but allows undraped. It should also be at her house.

This is hard to find.

There is something about lying there while a woman massages your body all over. This is a completely different feeling than actually participating yourself. Not that I mind participation, but I really want the massage experience.

If anyone has a name, feel free to PM me or post. I would really appreciate it.

Member #4753
10-17-14, 12:17
My little birds brought back some info that Uncle LEO is going to be out this weekend visiting hotels / motels and giving rides to ladies who are wandering the streets at night. Everyone stay safe. Was not sure where to post this as there is no "LE" forum that I see.

Scooter1
02-02-15, 10:36
Hey Bothers,

Fellow monger coming in from Florida next week and would love some guidance. Any help is much appreciated. Not much into AMP scene but if there are any UTR ladies, American massage therapist, or well reviewed escorts you would be willing to share Intel on I would greatly appreciate it. I will have a car but don't see much on the SW threads. If I may return the favor in any way please just ask. I have lived all over the state of Florida so if ever heading to the Sunshine State let me know.

RubaTug
02-04-15, 19:38
Has anyone been out to see Carly at the church for her BBBJ.

Member #4753
05-11-15, 22:51
This is not a review obviously and I am unsure if this is allowed, but I hope it is.

I recently saw a client. He is not a USASG member. I worked out an agreement with him for 80 roses he would get a half hour of my time with MSOG. I added in the MSOG because he was travelling so far to see me. However, when he arrived at my place and we spent our time together he decided that he was spent and would not be able to do MSOG.

I said that was too bad and I was sorry that it did not work out as we planned. I did not say sorry as in it was my fault just more in a sympathetic way if that makes sense. Then I offered that if he ever wanted to come back I would give him another good deal to make up for the lack of MSOG as we planned and just because he is travelling quite a distance to see me. So he contacts me tonight (not even four afters after I just saw him) wanting to come back tomorrow to "finish our arrangement". He expects me to see him tomorrow for no donation so he gets a second shot. I do not feel this is fair, but from a client's point of view is it? If I refuse to see him for free am I ripping him off you think?

I'll weigh in on this right away. MSOG means if I pay you for an hour and can get ten nuts in an hour then that's what happens. MSOG has never meant that I pay you for an hour today and get more time tomorrow without paying again because I couldn't catch another nut.

If I was the client and I couldn't get the second nut because you would help me get ready again I wouldn't see you again but MSOG has never fucking meant I get to see you two days in a row for the same donation. Key phrase in your post is "he decided he was spent" nothing you did, he decided.

He's a fucking loon,

A2

Rauder98
05-12-15, 05:08
I agree 100% with A2's response. MSOG means you get a second shot within the compensated time frame. The appointment isn't over as soon as the first shot is spent with time remaining. Two rounds in a half hour is kinda ambitious which is why most ladies don't seem to offer MSOG on a half hour appointment. If you were working with him for the time agreed on and he wasn't physically able to get in a second round, that's on him, not you. Sometimes it just doesn't happen a second time that quick. So no, he should not be expecting a free session at a future date to redeem his multiple shots. You are not ripping him off by not seeing him for free.

Love Massage
05-12-15, 07:59
This is not a review obviously and I am unsure if this is allowed, but I hope it is.

I recently saw a client. He is not a USASG member. I worked out an agreement with him for 80 roses he would get a half hour of my time with MSOG. I added in the MSOG because he was travelling so far to see me. However, when he arrived at my place and we spent our time together he decided that he was spent and would not be able to do MSOG.

I said that was too bad and I was sorry that it did not work out as we planned. I did not say sorry as in it was my fault just more in a sympathetic way if that makes sense. Then I offered that if he ever wanted to come back I would give him another good deal to make up for the lack of MSOG as we planned and just because he is travelling quite a distance to see me. So he contacts me tonight (not even four afters after I just saw him) wanting to come back tomorrow to "finish our arrangement". He expects me to see him tomorrow for no donation so he gets a second shot. I do not feel this is fair, but from a client's point of view is it? If I refuse to see him for free am I ripping him off you think?

I'll weigh in on this right away. MSOG means if I pay you for an hour and can get ten nuts in an hour then that's what happens. MSOG has never meant that I pay you for an hour today and get more time tomorrow without paying again because I couldn't catch another nut.

If I was the client and I couldn't get the second nut because you would help me get ready again I wouldn't see you again but MSOG has never fucking meant I get to see you two days in a row for the same donation. Key phrase in your post is "he decided he was spent" nothing you did, he decided.

He's a fucking loon,

A2I agree totally. Now if you just sat there and didn't help that's one thing. But for the guy to think he can come back for free. Killing me.

Bobcat2
05-12-15, 09:11
This is not a review obviously and I am unsure if this is allowed, but I hope it is.

I recently saw a client. He is not a USASG member. I worked out an agreement with him for 80 roses he would get a half hour of my time with MSOG. I added in the MSOG because he was travelling so far to see me. However, when he arrived at my place and we spent our time together he decided that he was spent and would not be able to do MSOG.

I said that was too bad and I was sorry that it did not work out as we planned. I did not say sorry as in it was my fault just more in a sympathetic way if that makes sense. Then I offered that if he ever wanted to come back I would give him another good deal to make up for the lack of MSOG as we planned and just because he is travelling quite a distance to see me. So he contacts me tonight (not even four afters after I just saw him) wanting to come back tomorrow to "finish our arrangement". He expects me to see him tomorrow for no donation so he gets a second shot. I do not feel this is fair, but from a client's point of view is it? If I refuse to see him for free am I ripping him off you think?

I'll weigh in on this right away. MSOG means if I pay you for an hour and can get ten nuts in an hour then that's what happens. MSOG has never meant that I pay you for an hour today and get more time tomorrow without paying again because I couldn't catch another nut.

If I was the client and I couldn't get the second nut because you would help me get ready again I wouldn't see you again but MSOG has never fucking meant I get to see you two days in a row for the same donation. Key phrase in your post is "he decided he was spent" nothing you did, he decided.

He's a fucking loon,

A2Tell him to pound sand where would it end.

Member #4753
05-12-15, 10:00
Thank you for the input A2! And to you bobcat and to those who have PM'ed me. I always try to be fair to my clients and keep my end of the agreement. I felt that MSOG was in the same session only, but wanted the viewpoint of a client before I told this guy to kick rocks (in a polite way unless he starts with being rude).


This is not a review obviously and I am unsure if this is allowed, but I hope it is.

I recently saw a client. He is not a USASG member. I worked out an agreement with him for 80 roses he would get a half hour of my time with MSOG. I added in the MSOG because he was travelling so far to see me. However, when he arrived at my place and we spent our time together he decided that he was spent and would not be able to do MSOG.

I said that was too bad and I was sorry that it did not work out as we planned. I did not say sorry as in it was my fault just more in a sympathetic way if that makes sense. Then I offered that if he ever wanted to come back I would give him another good deal to make up for the lack of MSOG as we planned and just because he is travelling quite a distance to see me. So he contacts me tonight (not even four afters after I just saw him) wanting to come back tomorrow to "finish our arrangement". He expects me to see him tomorrow for no donation so he gets a second shot. I do not feel this is fair, but from a client's point of view is it? If I refuse to see him for free am I ripping him off you think?

I'll weigh in on this right away. MSOG means if I pay you for an hour and can get ten nuts in an hour then that's what happens. MSOG has never meant that I pay you for an hour today and get more time tomorrow without paying again because I couldn't catch another nut.

If I was the client and I couldn't get the second nut because you would help me get ready again I wouldn't see you again but MSOG has never fucking meant I get to see you two days in a row for the same donation. Key phrase in your post is "he decided he was spent" nothing you did, he decided.

He's a fucking loon,

A2

Admin2
05-12-15, 11:13
Thank you for the input A2! And to you bobcat and to those who have PM'ed me. I always try to be fair to my clients and keep my end of the agreement. I felt that MSOG was in the same session only, but wanted the viewpoint of a client before I told this guy to kick rocks (in a polite way unless he starts with being rude).His expectation (unless there was a misunderstanding) is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard of in the hobby. Not quite the MOST ridiculous, but it's fucking up there.

Macatawa
05-12-15, 12:46
To put it bluntly, a client pays for a set amount of time. Whatever happens in that time is between you and him. If he can do MSOG, then more power to him. If he cannot, then he still gets the set amount of time.

The payment is for time and not MSOG.

I never understand how a girl can kick a client out before the time is up simply because he "came. " He still has the full allotted time and if he can make ithappen again, then good for him.

Thinking that he can come again a different day for free is absurd IMO.

Member #4753
05-12-15, 13:49
To put it bluntly, a client pays for a set amount of time. Whatever happens in that time is between you and him. If he can do MSOG, then more power to him. If he cannot, then he still gets the set amount of time.

The payment is for time and not MSOG.

I never understand how a girl can kick a client out before the time is up simply because he "came. " He still has the full allotted time and if he can make ithappen again, then good for him.

Thinking that he can come again a different day for free is absurd IMO.Oh he was given the time he was promised which was a half hour. During the set up part of our communication he asked about MSOG and if it was an option. I said pretty much what you said. That if he can do it again than great for him! That I was not going to kick him if there is still time on the clock that he reserved. He was the one who decided he was satisfied enough and would not be able to get his second chance in. Still I did the cuddling, light touching, and talking until his time was up. I like to think that I keep things open and flexible when it comes to time. But then when he contacted me a few hours later wanting to see me today for his "second shot" I was unsure of how to handle it and felt it a good thing to get the opinion of you gentlemen. I personally did not feel it was unreasonable to refuse. Thank you for reaffirming what I felt was the fair course of action. In the future I will be sure to make it clear that MSOG means in the same session and not that I "owe one in the future" or that he is guaranteed more than one. Just that if he is able than I am willing.

Member #4753
05-12-15, 13:57
Lastly, I should of known this guy would of been slightly difficult when he started complaining that 80 roses was too much for what I was offering him and kept saying that girls in Detroit area asked for a lot less. I felt it was a very very good special I was offering.


To put it bluntly, a client pays for a set amount of time. Whatever happens in that time is between you and him. If he can do MSOG, then more power to him. If he cannot, then he still gets the set amount of time.

The payment is for time and not MSOG.

I never understand how a girl can kick a client out before the time is up simply because he "came. " He still has the full allotted time and if he can make ithappen again, then good for him.

Thinking that he can come again a different day for free is absurd IMO.

Member #4753
05-12-15, 22:39
His expectation (unless there was a misunderstanding) is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard of in the hobby. Not quite the MOST ridiculous, but it's fucking up there.No, there was no misunderstanding. He at first wanted me to do an outcall to Three Rivers to see him in which I said I would, but there would be a travel fee for my time spent on the road as gas. It was a modest extra fee. This started the conversation of my half hour rate being too expensive compared to other providers. I do my research when I set my rates. I know my rates are equal to less than other providers in the area. I have seen some girls offer a half hour for 150 roses. Mine ranges from 80-100 for a half hour, but mostly 80. This particular day it was 100. That was for the full ride and unrushed. I hate rushing as much as a gentleman hates to be rushed. Anyways, I said it would probably be better to come to me if he wished to see me then if he felt my travel charge was too much. Since I had nothing else going on that night I said I would see him for 80 if he decided to come to my location. I said I would make it worth the trip to see me and he would leave satiated. He asked if he could have MSOG in the half hour and I agreed. You are right, very ambitious for the time frame.

Appointment went well. He had no complaints and expressed how much he enjoyed our time. But he just could not muster it up for a round two. I stayed attentive to him and even after he said he was spent I did not rush him out. He stayed the remainder of his time with me. Upon leaving I expressed how it was unfortunate we were unable to go for multi like he planned, but I had hoped he would see me again. And that since he was travelling a distance to see me I would continue to give him a fair rate to make it worth it and maybe next time it would work out with the MSOG. He said he would be sure that I would "honor my end of things. " And went on to reiterate how my donations were too expensive and providers in detroit do half hours for 50 to 60 roses. I smiled it off and said how my donations wore for me in this area. A few hours later he texts me asking to see me again today to hold up my end of the deal and give him his second shot. I laughed. Not to him. But to myself. My 2 minute delay in responding to him prompted him to tell me how he would just see another provider in the area. *eyeroll*.

But decided to tread carefully as my view as a provider may be different than that of a client. Which is what brought me to the forum to ask you fine gentlemen what you thought of the situation. You backed up what I already thought so after receiving the opinions of members I politely said that I would have to decline meeting him today as I felt it was unfair for him to receive a second visit for free. Rejection brings out the worse in some and he started flinging insults and saying he would never pay such an over priced donation for the same experience he just had and with the same provider. I defended my donation but simply stating that my rate was comparable and sometimes undercutting the other providers in the area. Of course he said I was lying and that ALL other providers in the area asked for less than I did. ALL OF THEM! Hahaha! So I wished him luck in seeing one of them and bid him a good day. This angered him more and I ended up having to block his number. Fun times! This is why I like the members of this board more and more each day that passes. I would rather see a member of this board who did not care much for his time with me than a client like this guy who did enjoy my company but complains about what must be given in order to get my company. Sheesh.

Anyways, thanks for letting me vent guys. And thank you admin for allowing my post to go through even though it is not a review or advert.

ThePaleHorse
05-22-15, 07:38
No, there was no misunderstanding. He at first wanted me to do an outcall to Three Rivers to see him in which I said I would, but there would be a travel fee for my time spent on the road as gas. It was a modest extra fee. This started the conversation of my half hour rate being too expensive compared to other providers. I do my research when I set my rates. I know my rates are equal to less than other providers in the area. I have seen some girls offer a half hour for 150 roses. Mine ranges from 80-100 for a half hour, but mostly 80. This particular day it was 100. That was for the full ride and unrushed. I hate rushing as much as a gentleman hates to be rushed. Anyways, I said it would probably be better to come to me if he wished to see me then if he felt my travel charge was too much. Since I had nothing else going on that night I said I would see him for 80 if he decided to come to my location. I said I would make it worth the trip to see me and he would leave satiated. He asked if he could have MSOG in the half hour and I agreed. You are right, very ambitious for the time frame.

Appointment went well. He had no complaints and expressed how much he enjoyed our time. But he just could not muster it up for a round two. I stayed attentive to him and even after he said he was spent I did not rush him out. He stayed the remainder of his time with me. Upon leaving I expressed how it was unfortunate we were unable to go for multi like he planned, but I had hoped he would see me again. And that since he was travelling a distance to see me I would continue to give him a fair rate to make it worth it and maybe next time it would work out with the MSOG. He said he would be sure that I would "honor my end of things. " And went on to reiterate how my donations were too expensive and providers in detroit do half hours for 50 to 60 roses. I smiled it off and said how my donations wore for me in this area. A few hours later he texts me asking to see me again today to hold up my end of the deal and give him his second shot. I laughed. Not to him. But to myself. My 2 minute delay in responding to him prompted him to tell me how he would just see another provider in the area. *eyeroll*.

But decided to tread carefully as my view as a provider may be different than that of a client. Which is what brought me to the forum to ask you fine gentlemen what you thought of the situation. You backed up what I already thought so after receiving the opinions of members I politely said that I would have to decline meeting him today as I felt it was unfair for him to receive a second visit for free. Rejection brings out the worse in some and he started flinging insults and saying he would never pay such an over priced donation for the same experience he just had and with the same provider. I defended my donation but simply stating that my rate was comparable and sometimes undercutting the other providers in the area. Of course he said I was lying and that ALL other providers in the area asked for less than I did. ALL OF THEM! Hahaha! So I wished him luck in seeing one of them and bid him a good day. This angered him more and I ended up having to block his number. Fun times! This is why I like the members of this board more and more each day that passes. I would rather see a member of this board who did not care much for his time with me than a client like this guy who did enjoy my company but complains about what must be given in order to get my company. Sheesh.

Anyways, thanks for letting me vent guys. And thank you admin for allowing my post to go through even though it is not a review or advert.Talk about what your cake and eat it to. Dammmnn, take the pill man LOL.

ThePaleHorse
05-22-15, 07:40
Lastly, I should of known this guy would of been slightly difficult when he started complaining that 80 roses was too much for what I was offering him and kept saying that girls in Detroit area asked for a lot less. I felt it was a very very good special I was offering.He must didn't take into account the gas it would take to go from three rivers to Detroit. And he damn near shooting blanks. Hellva road trip for 10 minutes of shine.

Brilithos
05-28-15, 16:00
Has anyone been out to see Carly at the church for her BBBJ.No, every once in awhile she posts an ad but never posts a number to contact. I haven't seen her since she left the store front.

CruiserinGR
06-20-15, 22:52
I am looking for a local girl that would be interested in helping me break up a relationship. I know this is a bit out there but its for a good cause, the guy is a cradle robbing POS taking serious advantage of an extremely naïve young girl. Its legal but its not right. I figure the only good way to end it is distraction.

Anybody know of anyone I sure would appreciate recommendations.

CruiserinGR
06-21-15, 22:59
Anything?

Anywhere?

BadBoyFourU
06-26-15, 08:59
I am looking for a local girl that would be interested in helping me break up a relationship. I know this is a bit out there but its for a good cause, the guy is a cradle robbing POS taking serious advantage of an extremely nave young girl. Its legal but its not right. I figure the only good way to end it is distraction.

Anybody know of anyone I sure would appreciate recommendations.Seems like this would pricey, based on current rates most of the providers are asking or are you hoping for them to do it out of the goodness in their hearts?

CruiserinGR
06-27-15, 22:26
Seems like this would pricey, based on current rates most of the providers are asking or are you hoping for them to do it out of the goodness in their hearts?I am sure it isn't going to be cheap, but probably way less than getting myself out of A&be charges. Plus that's not really a distraction.

SemiPro68
02-07-16, 12:16
Made an apt with this provider from localescortpage.com in Kzoo.

She is just like her photos, but she did a cash and dash on me. Just letting everyone know so you can protect your $$. Posting guidelines say I can't put a tel number in here, but she uses a 517 area code number.

Zacksecret
03-20-16, 14:12
Was a provider that used to strip at DJV. Petite blonde. Found her on sipsap a little bit ago but lost contact. Any leads?

Spongebob357
04-20-16, 20:46
I have tried to register with Midwest Timez a couple of times with no success. Can anyone provide me with a frigging invitation code please? Thanks in advance.

Spongebob.

Macatawa
04-21-16, 16:37
I have tried to register with Midwest Timez a couple of times with no success. Can anyone provide me with a frigging invitation code please? Thanks in advance.

Spongebob.Doesn't always help. I got an invitation code and then I was asked many questions. I answered them. Then I heard nothing and still haven't. It has been over a month. I sent a couple of inquiries to see what I need to do, but no answer. I would think that a courteous response would be the least that he could do.

Spongebob357
04-21-16, 17:25
Doesn't always help. I got an invitation code and then I was asked many questions. I answered them. Then I heard nothing and still haven't. It has been over a month. I sent a couple of inquiries to see what I need to do, but no answer. I would think that a courteous response would be the least that he could do.I did get registered with MAD, it just seems that there are not as many sp's to choose from either on MAD or BP. I was hoping that MWT might offer more choices.

BobUp
04-28-16, 14:27
Doesn't always help. I got an invitation code and then I was asked many questions. I answered them. Then I heard nothing and still haven't. It has been over a month. I sent a couple of inquiries to see what I need to do, but no answer. I would think that a courteous response would be the least that he could do.Perhaps our buddy is on the membership committee? If that's the case you were doomed my friend.

KzooMwmLooking
04-30-16, 15:13
Perhaps our buddy is on the membership committee? If that's the case you were doomed my friend.What is MAD?

CruiserinGR
04-30-16, 22:13
Does anyone recognize this belly?

Macatawa
04-30-16, 23:25
Perhaps our buddy is on the membership committee? If that's the case you were doomed my friend.LOL I thought the same thing!

Oh well. I haven't lost sleep over it. One day I may try again. I really have plenty of ways to seek out new talent when I need it. This forum is actually the most helpful in many ways as compared to the other boards.

Otto22
05-01-16, 16:49
What is MAD?Michigan Adult Destination.

Macatawa
05-01-16, 23:35
Does anyone recognize this belly?Why do you ask?

CruiserinGR
05-03-16, 08:14
Enquiring minds want to know.

Do you?


Why do you ask?

Macatawa
05-03-16, 18:19
Enquiring minds want to know.

Do you?No, but I wish I had seen it in person.

Flinch
05-03-16, 21:45
I could use a little info on this one if anyone's got it. http://kalamazoo.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/scarbabys-got-deals-today-outcalls/24621477.The pics looks great its kind of hard to find good looking provider in the area. If you got any info please PM.

PolishTheTurd
05-05-16, 18:59
The pics looks great its kind of hard to find good looking provider in the area. If you got any info please PM.I never seen the provider before but the pics look a little weird. The naval ring balls are going vertical in one pic and horizontal in the other. I am not sure if they can be installed both ways. The pics were taken in 2 different bathrooms. The toilet and shower are not in the same spots. The boobs to me look bigger in the top pic than in the bottom one with the shirt on. Just my opinion.

BobbyJoe77
05-06-16, 00:04
The pics looks great its kind of hard to find good looking provider in the area. If you got any info please PM.Looks way to risky I think.

XxEagle
06-27-16, 21:05
Just saw on channel 3 news that there was a bust of a human trafficking group working out of hotels in Battle Creek and Kalamazoo. Three arrests and the 2 women who were being coerced or drugged are safe. Link http://wwmt.com/news/local/three-suspects-face-charges-related-to-human-trafficking-in-battle-creek.

Everyone be safe out there.

Marty Booker
06-28-16, 07:39
Just saw on channel 3 news that there was a bust of a human trafficking group working out of hotels in Battle Creek and Kalamazoo. Three arrests and the 2 women who were being coerced or drugged are safe. Link http://wwmt.com/news/local/three-suspects-face-charges-related-to-human-trafficking-in-battle-creek.

Everyone be safe out there.Curious to see whose ads start disappearing. I'd noticed a sudden influx of talent, when it had been pretty dead since Summer left. Guess this helps explain it.

Moral of the story: Don't pimp people.

BobUp
09-27-16, 14:43
IF you're going to write a review include a description and phone number, BP links disappear and too many girls with the same name. Making it virtually useless.

IF you're going to write a rip off report include a description and phone number, BP links disappear and too many girls with the same name. Making it virtually useless.

If you're going to write "Anyone have info on this one" same rule applies, ad will probably disappear before you get an answer.

IF you know a legitimate provider introduce them to this this message board it's turned into a real sausage fest anymore full of "Any info on this one?" Would be nice if "this One" were here to respond.

IF you know a legitimate provider introduced into the sister site. http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-22-Michigan/.

I posted this on the SB board thought I would put it here as well.

Otto22
09-27-16, 15:03
IF you're going to write a review include a description and phone number, BP links disappear and too many girls with the same name. Making it virtually useless.

IF you're going to write a rip off report include a description and phone number, BP links disappear and too many girls with the same name. Making it virtually useless.

If you're going to write "Anyone have info on this one" same rule applies, ad will probably disappear before you get an answer.

IF you know a legitimate provider introduce them to this this message board it's turned into a real sausage fest anymore full of "Any info on this one?" Would be nice if "this One" were here to respond.

IF you know a legitimate provider introduced into the sister site. http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-22-Michigan/.

I posted this on the SB board thought I would put it here as well.Well stated. I have to be careful since I once made a similar recommendation and have been on moderation ever since.

Are you really trying to say that this;

"Do you get paid to advertise for her?"

And this;

"Thanks for your worthless post. Now you can go back to never posting."

Are in some way similar to what he posted?

Have you ever considered a career in politics?

A2

Otto22
09-27-16, 18:58
Well stated. I have to be careful since I once made a similar recommendation and have been on moderation ever since.

Are you really trying to say that this;

"Do you get paid to advertise for her?"

And this;

"Thanks for your worthless post. Now you can go back to never posting."

Are in some way similar to what he posted?

Have you ever considered a career in politics?

A2So I can"t count on your vote, A2?

Are you planning on running for office in Argentina? Down here you got to buy those votes, they don't come free.

A2

Macatawa
10-25-16, 12:41
I put this here because there is none on BP or CL and it is not a "parlor" that I want.

Does anyone know of a good massage therapist that not only gives great massages but may do just a little extra?

I am having a tough time finding one who gives a great massage and may be relaxed on draping, etc. Most that are relaxed really aren't good at massages.

If you know of someone or have heard of someone, then please PM me and don't post. Keeping them UTR is best.

I really appreciate this.

Love Massage
10-28-16, 16:19
I put this here because there is none on BP or CL and it is not a "parlor" that I want.

Does anyone know of a good massage therapist that not only gives great massages but may do just a little extra?

I am having a tough time finding one who gives a great massage and may be relaxed on draping, etc. Most that are relaxed really aren't good at massages.

If you know of someone or have heard of someone, then please PM me and don't post. Keeping them UTR is best.

I really appreciate this.Yeah good luck with that. Need to PM each other if we find that lady. To many postings run them away. I know this is what the BP is for. But most of the time others read it and turn them in.

Macatawa
06-12-17, 11:39
I know, I know. Asking this question will do wonders for my reputation. It is why I figured as a senior member, I may get some better responses than a new member would.

But seriously, someone asked me if I knew of a guy who did massage and did extras for men and perhaps ladies. (Yes, I know ALL of us guys would line up to do the ladies. LOL).

He was asking for a feminine gay male or transgender male.

I said that there were probably websites like this one that advertised male massage, but I didn't know of any. I don't see any male massage therapists advertising on BP or CL often.

I have no doubt that this will be a PM thingy, so let me know if you know of someone or a place where they advertise.

And no, I am too old to change my orientation.

MITransplant
06-19-17, 09:46
I will be coming into town in the next few weeks and wondered if you fine mongers have any UTR's or reputable providers / SW's that you can share. Feel free to reply in pm.

BadBoyFourU
06-19-17, 19:38
I will be coming into town in the next few weeks and wondered if you fine mongers have any UTR's or reputable providers / SW's that you can share. Feel free to reply in pm.Not much going on here in the city. Might be better to look to Grand Rapids or Lansing for your playtime.

MarcoPoloGr
06-20-17, 17:27
Not much going on here in the city. Might be better to look to Grand Rapids or Lansing for your playtime.Wow. Kalamazoo must be really dead if you're recommending Grand Rapids over Kalamazoo. Sounds like things are bad all over.

BigMBoyd
07-02-17, 15:40
Most if not all of us have the fear of being caught, but this story is even worse. Read this story, but think of it as about what we do instead of the drug side of things. Remember, how many people know where you're going or what you're doing? Nobody's going to know where to find us, or have any idea where we went. Warning, this will be graphic (think p. O. w. Torture).

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19760676/university-rochester-football-player-kidnapped-tortured-40-hours

I'm sure Mr Kollias thought nothing like this would ever happen to him. We're very vulnerable during our visits.

SlyGuy12
07-03-17, 16:20
Most if not all of us have the fear of being caught, but this story is even worse. Read this story, but think of it as about what we do instead of the drug side of things. Remember, how many people know where you're going or what you're doing? Nobody's going to know where to find us, or have any idea where we went. Warning, this will be graphic (think p. O. w. Torture).

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19760676/university-rochester-football-player-kidnapped-tortured-40-hours

I'm sure Mr Kollias thought nothing like this would ever happen to him. We're very vulnerable during our visits.I got into a situation about a year where I met a girl at a hotel. Two guys there tried to rob me, I was lucky and they were not blocking the door, so I punched the closest one and ran like hell. I took like a six month break after that. Now when I visit I am always strapped. I legally carry.

MaleInKzoo
07-14-17, 22:44
Most if not all of us have the fear of being caught, but this story is even worse. Read this story, but think of it as about what we do instead of the drug side of things. Remember, how many people know where you're going or what you're doing? Nobody's going to know where to find us, or have any idea where we went. Warning, this will be graphic (think p. O. w. Torture).

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19760676/university-rochester-football-player-kidnapped-tortured-40-hours

I'm sure Mr Kollias thought nothing like this would ever happen to him. We're very vulnerable during our visits.This is the main reason why I haven't convinced myself to take the plunge yet: