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12-31-05, 23:00
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El Monger
01-09-06, 20:36
WSW "Cheryl" last week 26-28? 5'7 135? "The Stroll" between Griggs & Burton. Great BBBJTC. (40) (usually 20-30 w/ CIM) One of the few lately that didn't appear strung out. Have digits, may share.

El Monger
02-01-06, 09:23
Went to the Rainbow last night had a great time, backchannel for info I have heard that the boards are being watched. Only Senoir members/ members who contribute.

Asianplvr
02-03-06, 03:35
Which girl did you see at Rainbow? I have been with an Asian girl in 20's by the name of Suzie, but it's been about a year now.

Waxon1
02-03-06, 17:24
"backchannel for info I have heard that the boards are being watched. Only Senoir members/ members who contribute."

What is new about that?

Who told you that?

Dondetroit
02-10-06, 10:53
Picked up Michelle on division north of burton fs for 40 gfe.
Not bad but was rushed a little. She did seem to get into it.
No contact info. She was 5 2 135 nice body about 22.
Have had better and worse.

Lisa has really gone downhill lately and would not recommend her anymore.

Will share contact numbers if anyone has some to trade.

Word on street le has been HOT lately. BE Careful!

Don

Doyle30
02-17-06, 00:20
I was on the stroll a week ago- no luck. It seems that it's been pretty dead lately.

Dondetroit
03-10-06, 14:47
Found a couple of good ones in the last couple of weeks.

I picked up Rose on Division she has an apartment north on division north of burton. 35 5 5 135 nice body blonde 40 for fs

Picked up Terri on Grigg 30 5 5 130 very nice body 30 for everything only works when her hours are cut at her job

Both are keepers and will see again and again.

Any bars in town where girls can be picked up by an older guy(57)?

Let's be more active in our postings I know there's a lot happening out there.

Doon

GrMojo
03-27-06, 16:31
I used to go to Rainbow, years ago because they're in my neighborhood, but they just can't compete against the women I met online and through some of the online ladies.

I knew a few girls who lived off of Division in Wyoming, but had to cut them loose - too much drama.

Are there women who have the reasonable rates, look quite attractive, avoid the drama and would rather be contacted by cellphone? I saw a couple of women at the Jim Williams Motel, but that place just gives me the creeps. I'd rather see someone at my private outcall location, that's near Division. I'm on another board as Mojoman - I'm established there, so you can verify me by my email addy. PM me if you can recommend anyone. I can give info that will vouch for me.

Dondetroit
04-04-06, 11:08
I agree that motel is really dirty and very scary at night. I went there once never again. Seen Angel a couple of days ago on Greggs a 23 year old great body spent 60 for everything but was worth it. Very attractive and responsive. Had Pearl(tatoo girl) over a couple of nights ago she ripped me off for a razor and some hair shampoo. Will not see again. How short sighted can you get? Will share numbers with senior mmembers.

Don

Luv Nooke
04-10-06, 23:22
I will be visiting Zeeland soon and would appreciate a little help in sampling the local fare. I prefer younger, fit girls and have always enjoyed a good AMP. Other possibilites are good too, but that's one that can usually be counted on. I won't be able to hunt for SW's, and they're not really my preferred meal anyway.

Please PM with any recommendations, all help is much appreciated.

TwistedBrother
04-12-06, 01:26
I will be visiting Zeeland soon and would appreciate a little help in sampling the local fare. I prefer younger, fit girls and have always enjoyed a good AMP. Other possibilites are good too, but that's one that can usually be counted on. I won't be able to hunt for SW's, and they're not really my preferred meal anyway.

Please PM with any recommendations, all help is much appreciated.

You are either joking or know nothing about western Michigan. There's ZERO west of GR, south of Muskegon and north of Benton Harbor (except Kazoo, which isn't west of GR, but mostly on a line). Christian fundamentalist territory.

Of course, you're not far from GR, so that's where you go. I'll let some of the locals fill you in, or RTFF.

If I'm wrong, someone please let me know.

El Monger
04-12-06, 12:35
I used to go to Rainbow, years ago because they're in my neighborhood, but they just can't compete against the women I met online and through some of the online ladies.

I knew a few girls who lived off of Division in Wyoming, but had to cut them loose - too much drama.

Are there women who have the reasonable rates, look quite attractive, avoid the drama and would rather be contacted by cellphone? I saw a couple of women at the Jim Williams Motel, but that place just gives me the creeps. I'd rather see someone at my private outcall location, that's near Division. I'm on another board as Mojoman - I'm established there, so you can verify me by my email addy. PM me if you can recommend anyone. I can give info that will vouch for me.
I recognise the alternative handle, mine is Mich_man, look forward to sharing info!

Toledo Guy
04-28-06, 01:00
Visited Rainbow in GR after reading reports about Su Bin. Even though those reports were less than 90 days old I am sorry to report that Su Bin has moved on.

I had Tina who said she was there two weeks now. She is a little older – probably mid 40’s maybe less - hard to tell - and a little chubby - she isn't anything special to look at. Service was just typical – nothing notable at all.

I arrived about 5 minutes before midnight and she let me in. I didn’t know they closed at midnight – at least on Thursday nights… Only wanted to consider a half hour session which was fine with me after finding out who was there.

The other girl was Candy – who only got lack luster reports before. She looked about the same age with dyed blond hair and slim.

El Monger
04-30-06, 07:43
Was cruising the "Stroll" last night @ 11p doing recon, and saw this young wsw, dark hair petite and cute standing behind the old auto parts store nw of Hall & Div. Anyone have any info on her?

El Monger
05-24-06, 13:44
Saturday Evening @ about 11pm picked up WSW named Nicky near Griggs $ Division. Pipe girl, 20 5'6 145 BBBJTCCIM for 30, good service for being addicted. Come on people lets share!

Dondetroit
05-25-06, 13:23
Picked up Elaine around 11PM on side street north of wealthy and Division. 40 5 5 slim. Very good time with her. Ended up staying the a few hours with me 3 pops for a very low price. Plan on seeing her again tonight(Thursday) She has my number as she doesn't have a phone.
Don

Dondetroit
05-30-06, 07:47
Picked up Sharon 40 bsw 5 6 145# nice body very good fs. What I really liked about her was that she asked what I liked and acted on that.

Seen Becky a couple of time lately for a bbjcim nice job.

Has anyone picked up a blonde or brunette hanging around division and fair the last couple of weeks?

Let's get more posts going!!

Don

Doyle30
06-11-06, 00:03
I picked up Valerie Thursday night. 5'8, white, dirty blonde, 150 lbs or so- older chick- 40's maybe? Maybe just high mileage. Great rack- bbbjcim for 30- was worth it- barley. I'll watch for her- nice rack. Full service would be worth checking out in the future.

Picked up on Division a couple blocks north of 28th.

Altpetei
07-01-06, 00:55
Passing through GR this week, wondered if you could dtill get anything other than a HJ from esquire, any one frequent this "rubdown parlor anymore?

Marcbu
07-04-06, 18:32
I have been to esquire three times and have been with different girls each time and have only gotten a hand job every time. It was good but not fs like I like! I frequent massage parlors alot. Is there anywhere else in GR that gives good extras.

MWM
07-09-06, 01:54
Hey guys,

I'm throwing a bachelor party about 80 miles north of GR in Sept. for my unlucky friend...Unlucky because he thinks he needs to be married. I need 2-3 girl to dance for an hour and provide some extras for additional fees. can anybody help? I'm a well known Chicago monger and can be verified. Any help is appreciated.

I only wish I could find a girl as cute and cheap as my first bj at 18 y/o back in GR in 1986. Union HS class of 1896...what a dump that place is/was!

MWM
07-27-06, 10:16
Still looking for info for the bacelor party in 5 weeks. 90 minutes north of GR. Good coin for the right girl. BC Tim can vouch for me.

Thanks.

BC Tim
07-27-06, 19:33
i will check on it with my bc sw. when i get back there next week.. Send me a PM with your contact number and well talk about it....ok.

Tim

Doyle30
07-30-06, 01:04
Just got back from the stroll in GR. Picked her up just north of the RR tracks on Division. Nice black girl- her name was "Eisha" or soemthing. Young- early 20's I would guess- nice, firm rack, great lay, good mouth- a touch heavy. $40 for everything. Her digits were unavailible and I got the impression that she only does this once in awhile when she needs the $$- she was not very enthusiastic, but I hit her again just for the firm jugs!

Wolf88
08-12-06, 01:07
Hey All,

I did a midnight cruise on Division tonight. Saw a bit of action around rosemont before you get to alger. Saw a nice WSW, about a 7 on SW Scale. I turned around and took a small tour of the homes. There are Cops sitting with engine off, no lights on the backstreets. Probably because Mongers are taking the girls back around the houses and the residents don't approve of our hobbies.

Stay Safe,

Wolf88

GrMojo
09-02-06, 14:59
I recognise the alternative handle, mine is Mich_man, look forward to sharing info!I've sent some info your way, a few times, on the big board (SGUSA). Any stuff that you can share about attractive budget ladies who do great GFE? I'm partial to spinners, but like any woman who is in great shape.

El Monger
09-06-06, 04:26
I've sent some info your way, a few times, on the big board (SGUSA). Any stuff that you can share about attractive budget ladies who do great GFE? I'm partial to spinners, but like any woman who is in great shape.
I havent recieved any info from you just request.

GrMojo
09-07-06, 13:33
I havent recieved any info from you just request.I might be mistaken. I thought I may have sent info to you concerning some of my reviews on SGUSA.

Doyle30
09-18-06, 23:05
I might be mistaken. I thought I may have sent info to you concerning some of my reviews on SGUSA.Ha! I'm there too. Same handle- seen a few good ones. If you want a great "blow and go", PM me. High $$ on the SW scale (45 vs 20), but well worth it for safety and ability.

MWM
09-20-06, 13:40
After 3 hours of cruising on Monday afternoon and fighting traffic near Burton, I picked up Ida near downtown. PRSW, fat and wouldn't shut up. BBBJ was OK but she didn't finish. All in all a waste of time and money.

Member #3962
10-20-06, 13:04
Hello Everyone,

I posted this over on the "other cities" board but i'm not sure how much traffic goes over there so I thought i'd post here.

I will be visiting from Seattle and am aware that there is a Muskegon stroll - would anyone here happen to know where that stroll is?

Thanks!

Fun Guy 71
10-24-06, 18:27
In Grand Rapids on Division, just before the tracks, picked up Christine, older brunette, late 40s with a great rack that she was proud of with good reason. Sais she doesn't do this much but was on hard times and needed the help.

We found a nice quiet spot and she went to work with her mouth. That was when I heard the unexpected words. I'll just slip this lower plate out. That was enought to kill my mood but she finished up like a good camper. Gave her two beers, a jackson and a hamilton and headed off to the airport to pick up friends with a smile on my face.

Gern
10-24-06, 23:08
Hello GR! I haven't been in GR since summer, and I am wondering whether Division is still all messed up with construction? I'll be in town for a few nights next week. Is it worth getting my hopes up or should I just stay in my hotel room? Thanks for the intel!

Buttman#55
10-25-06, 01:01
I live in Muskegon and the stroll here is spotty at best. The only thing I can tell you is to run on Broadway from peck to the tire place-Smiths I think it's called. there is also a strip joint across the street called Murpheys but don't waste your time. turn left (south) on the road between these two places and go one block to Columbia turn left again and srtoll Columbia back the other way. Make sure to check the sidestreets as well. Also, you can run Summitt which is two blocks south of broadway instead of one. I seem to have my best luckbetween 1 and 3 am on the weekends. hope this helps!

Gern
11-08-06, 10:22
Since no one replied, I'll answer my own question. I was in GR last week and discovered that the construction appears to be nearly completed. Action was pretty good all the way from downtown to Alger. Picked up a WSW near Alger and found a nice quiet spot for BBJTC.

Member #3962
11-11-06, 05:57
Thanks for the reply on the MKG stroll, I haven't been back to my home area in about 6 six years and I wasn't aware there was a stroll as I didn't enter the hobby until I moved to Seattle.

I'll have to try the GR strolls as well, i'll let you all know if I come up with anything good.

BTW, the Seattle scene is hopping, some of you ought come check it out.

GrMojo
11-20-06, 13:53
BTW, the Seattle scene is hopping, some of you ought come check it out.I heard that Seattle had a major sting go down, recently. Might not be a good time for street action.

Member #3962
11-20-06, 21:48
I heard that Seattle had a major sting go down, recently. Might not be a good time for street action.There were major busts, but nothing out of the ordinary. The street bust netted like 30 guys and there was a much bigger Criagslist bust since a lot of gals work the boards over the rainy season. They spent over $100K for a total of about 100 arrests and the action has not slowed down one bit...the Seattle Times posted an opinion piece about it today.

There's just no way to stop this hobby.

Is there much of a CL presence in GR?

ILoveDaty
11-21-06, 18:48
Hey guys,

I've been crusin the streets of GR for a few years now. The actual street price if you are firm in your negotiations is $10 for head, and $20 for full service. Often times, if you are upfront, then you can get anal for the $20, or it may go up to $30. Almost all girls will do Anal.

GR has the best prices in the entire nation. Lets keep it that way. Over the past 6 months, since I've been firm, I haven't had one girl tell me: "No"

Please try these prices out and tell everyone how it works out.

DATY

GrMojo
11-22-06, 18:38
Is there much of a CL presence in GR?Not really. Craigslist can't compete against boards like SGUSA or EV, which do a much better job of screening out the scammers and give more info on the ladies.

I've talked with ladies about what they had to do, when touring, to post on Craigslist - it's not worth the tour. Most of the guys who prebook are not willing to help finance a lady's vacation, which is what the ladies expect. One friend was almost stuck in L.A., broke, because of the asshole she prebooked with - he didn't completely deliver on his promises.

ILoveDaty
11-25-06, 13:08
Met this beautiful streetwalker. She was a 9 on the SW scale. If she wasn't strung out, she would have been a 9 in real life and a 10 on the SW scale. Too bad she was a scammer.

She's about 25, tall, perfect build, blonde and beautiful. The only bad thing is her stomach. Her kids killed it. Its not large, but it has some marks on it.
She was wearing an evening gown that showed her long legs.

We drove arond for 10 minutes debating on whose spot to use. After I took her to my spot, she freaked and got out of the car. (about a 20 minute walk to civilzation) I felt bad, so I picked her up and we went to her spot.

I was trying to get my fingers inside on the ride there, but she wouldn't let me get all the way in. When we got to her spot, I gave her the money. She pretended to freak and got out of the car. She then proceeded into a house which I assume is a crack house. I wasn't going to follow her and got out of there. The strangest part was that I didn't even feel ripped off. She was so beautiful, that I felt it was worth the money. I got more out of that experience, than I did with the girl I had right before her.

Just be careful guys. Go to your own spot and stay in control of the hoes.

ILoveDaty
11-29-06, 23:16
I had one of the best time tonight with a SW. I was with her ponding her mouth for 20 minutes and another 15 minutes pounding something else. :)

She was happy with the $20.

As for Friday night, the mongering went up in price. I got one of my regulars, but she demanded $30 from me for full service. The girls are truly in demand when everyones paychecks come out.

Isn't there something the police could do about the 100+ drug dealers that roam the street EVERY single day. At any point in time, there are less than 10 girls working the streets, yet the drug dealers run free in this town. What is up with that?
DATY

GrMojo
11-30-06, 03:16
Isn't there something the police could do about the 100+ drug dealers that roam the street EVERY single day. At any point in time, there are less than 10 girls working the streets, yet the drug dealers run free in this town. What is up with that?

DATYMost of the SWs are busy getting high - only working for a short time. The problem must be bad, when you come across so many SPs on the escort boards, who are on crack. You don't want to be pulled over, if they happen to be riding with you and they have something illegal in their possession. I know of a guy who went to prison for a year, because of that, but then again he represented himself in court. But, it's easy to get your car impounded, that way.

ILoveDaty
12-07-06, 22:59
Hey guys, Where did all the drug dealers go? With all the snow on the ground, they are so easy to spot now. Seems like less than 30% of them walk the streets compared to a week ago.

The girls have thinned out as well though. I did have a fine piece of black ass tonight. She has a sweet body. $20 for a suck and *uck. She wiggled her hips as I doggy'ed her. I was so hot I offered her $10 more to plug her ass. So grabbed me and plugged it right in.

My SUV still has her smell in it. Time to clean up: (

Have you guys noticed that black women take it in the ass much easier than the white girls. Even if they have smaller hips?

GrMojo
12-10-06, 02:27
Hey guys, Where did all the drug dealers go? With all the snow on the ground, they are so easy to spot now. Seems like less than 30% of them walk the streets compared to a week ago.

The girls have thinned out as well though. I did have a fine piece of black ass tonight. She has a sweet body. $20 for a suck and *uck. She wiggled her hips as I doggy'ed her. I was so hot I offered her $10 more to plug her ass. So grabbed me and plugged it right in.

My SUV still has her smell in it. Time to clean up: (

Have you guys noticed that black women take it in the ass much easier than the white girls. Even if they have smaller hips?I guess you'll be breaking out the baking soda, a scrub brush and a vac, to get the SUV smelling like normal. LOL!

Never did a black woman up the ass, just white and hispanic. The one who seemed to take it the easiest was hispanic. I since lost track of the dumb *****, months ago. She even left something of hers worth a lot of cash, yet she's never been back to reclaim it. If I didn't have principles, I'd probably sell it and keep the cash.

Dondetroit
01-07-07, 21:26
Picked up Janet around 7 tonight. A 25 wsw very nice looking and body.
$50 for everything. Best time I had in a long time very much worth the $$.
Have digets to trade for mongers with numerous reports. Very much GFE.
Found her near McDonalds at Hall and Division.
Don

JimmyChap
01-17-07, 00:00
Gents,

Becareful out there. Picked up a swf - 22. Her name was Angel (different than Angela) classic bait and switch. I was dumb enough to fall for it. She brings you back to her room (first mistake I made) asks for the money upfront (second mistake) and then her boyfriend breaks into the room and forces you out. I'm glad I wasnt hurt, lost thirty - learned a lesson. I guess i'm still new at this. Stay safe out there!

JC

Dondetroit
01-21-07, 23:34
Heard that there were sw available on Grandville Ave that were cheaper then the ones on Division. Anyone have any luck on Grandview?

Don

MWM
02-01-07, 14:20
Hey Don, thanks for the hookup!!! Got a bbbj with covered FS followed by a cbj to finish in her room. Did not ask for money up front and she seemed fine with the $50 I gave her. Honestly thoughI did not find her to be attractive at all. She has a cute face but her body was not so great...lot's of loose skin around the belly. She does have a good attitude though.

Thanks again and if you are ever in Chicago let me know and I'll hook you up.


Picked up Janet around 7 tonight. A 25 wsw very nice looking and body.
$50 for everything. Best time I had in a long time very much worth the $$.
Have digets to trade for mongers with numerous reports. Very much GFE.
Found her near McDonalds at Hall and Division.
Don

Dondetroit
02-22-07, 15:14
Picked up G.G. on Division North of Wealthy around noon yesterday. Back to my place for $30 FS. 40 year old with nice body and great smile. She really aims to please and will do what you ask her to do. Have digets but don't know if they work. She lives in a trailer court on Eastern and 48th I believe she said.
Don
On another subject if you like hot dogs try yesterdog on wealthy they are the best I've ever had and I've had a few in my 57 years.

Member #4025
02-22-07, 16:43
On another subject if you like hot dogs try yesterdog on wealthy they are the best I've ever had and I've had a few in my 57 years.

I have to agree with you on Yesterdog! Keep up the good reporting, I'm in Lansing but like to read how things are elsewhere in the state; and I do get to GR once in awhile.

Member #3962
05-24-07, 04:29
Hello Everyone,

I have not been in Grand Rapids in six years and i'm coming home from Seattle for a visit in one month.

When I moved out west eight years ago Division and that general area was good for pick-ups, but as I have not been home I do not know how that area has changed.

Any tips for a fellow cruiser?

Thanks!!

Tony Colt
06-06-07, 13:33
There used to be a massage girl in Saugatuck that provided extras.

Does anyone know if she is still around?

Mich Boater
06-08-07, 13:54
I have my boat in Saugatuck. Let me know if you hear anything. I would love a massage out on the water. *grin*

GrMojo
06-09-07, 10:00
There used to be a massage girl in Saugatuck that provided extras.

Does anyone know if she is still around?From what I remember, the place closed and she later resurfaced on some of the SP sites as an independent. I'm not sure if she's still doing massages, or who she was. Maybe, someone else on scorp's would know.

Dean69
06-09-07, 22:41
Maria, also known as CarribeanLife4Me and Pleasure Princess is out of the business. I chatted with her on-line the other day. She is opening a business, and she will not be returning to the massage business. It is quite a loss as she was an ATF.

GrMojo
06-14-07, 17:39
Maria, also known as CarribeanLife4Me and Pleasure Princess is out of the business. I chatted with her on-line the other day. She is opening a business, and she will not be returning to the massage business. It is quite a loss as she was an ATF.Too bad that she doesn't work as an independent, on the side. I've heard great things about her.

Tony Colt
06-20-07, 13:20
Glad to here that my memory was correct about Saugatuck! Getten old sucks. Thanks for the update, still a good time even with out the little extras, one more round of golf I guess.

GrMojo
06-21-07, 18:39
Any attractive spinners out there? I'm not one to cruise. My Grand Marquis looks too much like a cop car. LOL Digits would be appreciated. Looking to celebrate my birthday, for a short time.

El Monger
06-22-07, 15:50
Yes division is the stroll still.



Hello Everyone,

I have not been in Grand Rapids in six years and i'm coming home from Seattle for a visit in one month.

When I moved out west eight years ago Division and that general area was good for pick-ups, but as I have not been home I do not know how that area has changed.

Any tips for a fellow cruiser?

Thanks!!

Snow Man
07-03-07, 16:51
I went for a short trip the other day to find a place to stroll in GR. Every D@MN road in the town is under construction and creating detours;

Division totally ripped up.

Wealthy closed

Fuller closed

I cruised Eastern, Madison, Buchanan, Grandville and Clyde Park (basically all streets that parallel Division), nothing!! It was early in the afternoon, but I didn't even see a hint of action.

Where did all the SW action go?

NewLove24
07-05-07, 07:45
I also did the stroll a few times in the last month, the construction is terrible. Saw BSW and WSW on the corner of burton and division and also saw a BSW at the motel on 28th street next to the bowling alley. I always check that motel because I've been taken back there before by SW's. Other than that it's been terrible out there.

Snow Man
07-23-07, 13:46
What are the names of some strip clubs that SW gals might also work in? Anything near division?

El Monger
07-24-07, 12:34
Stripper dont walk the streets,,,,,,,geeeeezh. What town are you from?



What are the names of some strip clubs that SW gals might also work in? Anything near division?

Waxon1
07-24-07, 17:43
Stripper dont walk the streets,,,,,,,geeeeezh. What town are you from?
Some do! Some do in GR!
Some do in Flint!
Some do in Lansing!
So why did you not know that? Where you been hiding Geeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzh us.

Sigma9
07-24-07, 19:22
I decided to come visit my old town. Haven't been back if a few.

My god what happen to this town? Its like bone dry now a days.

El Monger
07-25-07, 09:27
Some do! Some do in GR!
Some do in Flint!
Some do in Lansing!
So why did you not know that? Where you been hiding Geeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzh us.
I believe it in Flint!
The SW look like the dancers there!
There is no dancer quality SW in GR this I can Promise you. Or Dancers walking the streets in GR period.
Just my .02, not a rant.
If you disagree well then we will have to agree to disagree unless any of your guys care to share your info.
I have seen no post to affirm this conclusin.

Sigma9
07-25-07, 17:00
Well a few yrs ago while cruising around I did pick up a SW that told me she was a dancer until she quit (don't know the story behind it).

She did look dancer quality though.

That prob the closest you will every come to as far as a dancer SW.

Thats not to say dancers don't do take-out just not SW.

El Monger
07-26-07, 08:35
Oh yeah take out is available, a little more limited on the west side of the state, but available.
Yes streetwalkers come from all walks of life, no pun intended.


Well a few yrs ago while cruising around I did pick up a SW that told me she was a dancer until she quit (don't know the story behind it).

She did look dancer quality though.

That prob the closest you will every come to as far as a dancer SW.

Thats not to say dancers don't do take-out just not SW.

El Monger
07-26-07, 08:38
Picked up Mary last night near the construction zone, 5'8 135 real pretty hazel/green eyes, 34C ish pocked complexion , brunette, maybe a 7 on SW scale.
BBBJTCCIM .30, would like to take her to a no-tel for an hr or two and maybe take some pics. So yes I would do again. Heavy LE traffic! Be careful.

Dondetroit
07-27-07, 21:39
Sounds like the same Mary I picked up late on Monday night on Division north of Wealthy. Same $ and felt the same about her as El Monger. I have her digets if anyone want to trade. Only members with some posts need reply.
I was stood up by a regular when I decided to hit the street and it worked out well! Didn't see any LE.

BackRub
08-01-07, 20:06
I was in Grand Rapids and checked out Division over the weekend. I saw three SWs: 1 WSW and 1 BSW. It was about 1 pm Sunday afternoon. I also saw two stings underway. The first was near the bus stop north of the intersection with SR 11, she was with two black guys with a couple watching from across the street. The second was a sole girl, with a purse, sunglasses, and an attitude located north of the construction near Griggs. She hardly ever moved and I noticed from a safe distance that the cops drove right past. The first girl almost fooled me. I made eyes as though I was interested and got her to walk to a side street. Fortunately, she got into a blue BMW that pulled past me. She must have seen the out of state plates; those might be harder to process. I followed her for a safe distance until I noticed she was leading him to the area where the GPD has their rally point for stings: a parking lot just north of Burton. I pealed off quickly when I saw the two blue GPD cars. Later, I notice that the girl arrived back way too soon for a date. A 15 minute blowjob, wow, that's fast, yea right.

Waxon1
08-02-07, 19:11
I was in Grand Rapids and checked out Division over the weekend. I saw three SWs: 1 WSW and 1 BSW. It was about 1 pm Sunday afternoon. I also saw two stings underway. The first was near the bus stop north of the intersection with SR 11, she was with two black guys with a couple watching from across the street. The second was a sole girl, with a purse, sunglasses, and an attitude located north of the construction near Griggs. She hardly ever moved and I noticed from a safe distance that the cops drove right past. The first girl almost fooled me. I made eyes as though I was interested and got her to walk to a side street. Fortunately, she got into a blue BMW that pulled past me. She must have seen the out of state plates; those might be harder to process. I followed her for a safe distance until I noticed she was leading him to the area where the GPD has their rally point for stings: a parking lot just north of Burton. I pealed off quickly when I saw the two blue GPD cars. Later, I notice that the girl arrived back way too soon for a date. A 15 minute blowjob, wow, that's fast, yea right.

Did you see the car get pulled over?
In Michigan the girls don't get into a a guys car if she is LE.
So did you see the bust?

BackRub
08-04-07, 15:54
It was probably vice giving her a ride. She was only gone a few minutes.

Jetops
08-17-07, 20:06
I pick up a wsw name Lisa earlier this week and i found her on one of the non normal pickup street. Mid 30's average looks 125-140 lbs with 38c. The town has been cleaned out sw on the normal places you would start looking for them.

Sigma9
08-25-07, 11:36
Hey guys! There is a new AMP in town.

Some of you might have already tried it post some reviews up if you have un like oter AMPs the rice is Very resonable

But they are not the kind that advertise so they will do it by word of mouth

They change staff very often and don't have the crappy 40+yr girl all are young 20+

Senior members and ONLY senior members my pm me and I'll get them contact info

Have something to trade if you can.

GrMojo
08-26-07, 06:27
Senior members only, eh? Bummer. The ladies on EV and AE Source are getting way too expensive. Not to mention the fact that they are very unprofessional and don't work weekends. I would be nice to have an alternative.

Arp1966
08-26-07, 18:31
He's net even a senior member himself and only has 12 reports to his name.

Sigma9
08-27-07, 21:58
Yeah I know I'm not a senior members but I really don't wanna lose this place to stupidity.

Ts like finding a diamond and passing it around to people you don't know to look at it thats just don't sit right with me LOL.

Eagle55
08-28-07, 08:38
Sigma

Don't kid yourself by thinking that by keeping this info to yourself that you are protecting anything. Uncle LEO doesn't need our help in locating dangerous businesses like AMP's. Hell some of them may even be fellow mongerers. I agree that you don't need to spell everything out. But if everyone goes underground with info then the purpose of this forum is compromised (which is the exchange of info on getting laid). Check some of the threads from other states. They are so paranoid that the thread is basically useless. Just my .02

Eagle out

TwistedBrother
08-28-07, 10:36
Sigma isn't responding to senior members so far, either! :(

I just realized, as well, Sigma, that you are asking OTHERS to post reviews of the place, if they've been, yet you are withholding specifics. I'm almost ready to call BS on this whole thing (and am considering reporting to Jackson).

Snow Man
08-31-07, 18:48
Picked up Mary last night near the construction zone, 5'8 135 real pretty hazel/green eyes, 34C ish pocked complexion , brunette, maybe a 7 on SW scale.

BBBJTCCIM .30, would like to take her to a no-tel for an hr or two and maybe take some pics. So yes I would do again. Heavy LE traffic! Be careful.Sounds similar to the girl that ripped me off. $.7. My fault though.

It was the whole $.3 gets you this, but $.7 gets all this. We were gonna go to her place but she had to pay the rent.

She was clean, spoke well, had clear skin, but kinda pocked marked (not crack 'ho skin). Anyway I gave her the money so she could pay the rent. She went into a house to pay the rent, and guess what? Yep I was surprised too when she came back out, and got back in my ride. So at this point I'm thinking she is gonna deliver. So we went to another place so she could get her "house-key" and she went in another house. This time she disappeared.

I waited a long time, and drove around the block a few times. But she was gone.

I saw her near the 2 story by the laundry mat, near const. zone. I forgot her name but she said she was a dancer (hence my questions about take out)

Sigma9
09-01-07, 13:10
Yeah yeah I know I've been lazy and havent responded to anyone's pm yet

I did send you info twisted so go try it out and share the number with ones you trust

Don't worry to all senior members I will get that number to you as soon as I get off my lazy ass LOL.

I've been really busy these few weeks.

TwistedBrother
09-02-07, 15:18
Whatever you think about Sigma's methods, I tried the place yesterday and it's legit. In this case, it may well be better kept on the DL. Not quite as great as he made it out to be, but definitely has its strong points as an unadvertised amp-type place. I've decided to defer to him as far as how much to review or promote it, but I will share info via PM with some members and will probably respond more promptly as I'm on my computer frequently each day.

Like I said, usually my M.O. is to give a full review on the board, but in this case, maybe best done differently. That's my take for the moment.

Sigma9
09-04-07, 23:53
Ok I responded to all senior members that msged me about this place and twisted didn't have as nice a time as I have and I feel for him.

The 4 times I've went there so far have been well worth the money spent. But because the girls change out every month or so I have nothing to say about is experience. Go ahead and report your review of the place.

TwistedBrother
09-06-07, 00:35
Maybe not AS good a time, but still a good time and am still recommending ... I've been responding, too. I do think, in this case, the location info is best spread via PM ... it's not a place you can go to w/o calling first anyway. And they are doing some advertising. This place is worth having and keeping it on the DL will help preserve.


Ok I responded to all senior members that msged me about this place and twisted didn't have as nice a time as I have and I feel for him.

The 4 times I've went there so far have been well worth the money spent. But because the girls change out every month or so I have nothing to say about is experience. Go ahead and report your review of the place.

Dondetroit
09-07-07, 14:18
Met Kim on Divsion just south of 28th st. a couple of nights ago. Took her to my place for a great $20 BBBJ. The next morning I found out she had taken a bottle of cologne(gravity) that I used. I went to the local Walgreens and found that the cologne was on clearance. I paid $5.50 for a bottle that usually costs $22. I bought 4 bottles thus saving around $65. I had to laugh at my good fortune.

Sigma9
09-08-07, 00:19
Ok to all members that I told about the new AMP to.

They just got a new girl in that I'm told is pretty hot.

I'm gonna go try it out on Saturday and take one for the team

Then let you all know whats up.

Sigma9
09-08-07, 23:02
Well I went to the AMP to check it out girl was not as pretty as I was told but the service was pretty good.

Monger01
09-16-07, 10:42
Sat. About 10: 30PM Cruised through the Wallgreen's parking lot 28th+Division. Saw 1 SW about a 1 SW scale, stocky, about 5' 6" short brown hair plaid shirt untucked. When I met eyes she nodded (yes) but I shook my head no. I wasn't hunting but running and errand and she was just too ugly.

Wish they all would nod like that though.

GrMojo
09-17-07, 14:54
Sat. About 10: 30PM Cruised through the Wallgreen's parking lot 28th+Division. Saw 1 SW about a 1 SW scale, stocky, about 5' 6" short brown hair plaid shirt untucked. When I met eyes she nodded (yes) but I shook my head no. I wasn't hunting but running and errand and she was just too ugly.

Wish they all would nod like that though.That's pretty close to my neighborhood. I wish they would nod, quickly, too. Then, it could be made to look like I drove out to give her a ride, anyway, instead of trolling. LOL. I suppose that's why I have to have some digits, before I make the drive. A guy could lose his car, cruising around.

Toledo Guy
09-20-07, 22:10
Went to this AMP tonight and had a good experience. As previously stated the girl was mediocre but very nice and friendly. Felt safe and there was no negotiating just stated the price for the massage.

This is the first time I had been to this type of place but it was what I expected based on reports in other cities.

Sad thing though is that I assume LE will work overtime to shut them down because that is easy work and brings them press. Every one is consenting adults – no harm to anyone why bother them.

Next time I am in town I hope they are still there.

Thanks to everyone that reported here so I knew about them.


Well I went to the AMP to check it out girl was not as pretty as I was told but the service was pretty good.

GrMojo
09-25-07, 08:34
Spotted a BSW on Eastern between 28th and Alger, in front of that old school building. She could hear me say "Nice! ", as I drove by her. Then, she jumped into the street so that I could get another look at her in the rear view mirror. I should have been prepared to park the car, but I had my mind on an errand I was running. Are my priorities screwed up or what?

I drove back through that area, a few minutes later, but she was gone. I think I'll drive through that area a little more slowly, next time.

Hockey69
09-27-07, 11:11
Called Avablonde for an appointment in Lansing on Sunday, a couple of PM's and a phone call and I'm at her hotel. This lady is the real GFE, price was $$.50. She doesn't advertise a menu, it's up to you and her. She is very open mind. This girl is the real deal. Great in bed and knows how to take care of a man. Her contact information. Web---wwwAvablonde.net or E-mail is [Email address deleted by Admin]. Guy's you won't go wrond with this lady.

Happy hunting,

Hockey69

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TwistedBrother
09-27-07, 20:12
Is it just me, or does this sound more like a classified ad than a review?


Called Avablonde for an appointment in Lansing on Sunday, a couple of PM's and a phone call and I'm at her hotel. This lady is the real GFE, price was $$.50. She doesn't advertise a menu, it's up to you and her. She is very open mind. This girl is the real deal. Great in bed and knows how to take care of a man. Her contact information. Web---wwwAvablonde.net or E-mail is [Email address deleted by Admin]. Guy's you won't go wrond with this lady.

Happy hunting,

Hockey69

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GrMojo
09-27-07, 21:58
I'd never do business with Avablonde. I met her at a SGUSA M&G, a few years ago. She was acting very nervous and when ladies asked her to give a reference on a client, would slam the hell out of the guys. She didn't count on some of the guys bringing word to the rest of the guys about her lame attempt at keeping her clients all to herself. Suffice it to say, you won't want to write a review of her on AES or EV, and you won't want to use her as a reference.

El Monger
09-28-07, 12:42
Is it just me, or does this sound more like a classified ad than a review?

I am not sure what it looks like, AvaBlonde is a reviewed provider w/ only good reviews.
But if he saw her in Lansing, just dont know why he is posting it here?

Rickster
10-06-07, 14:29
I saw Avablonde awhile ago. One of the very worst experiences in my mongering life. Let me list the issues.

On scale of 1.10

10 = perfection

Face: 4 I imagine this is the reason she doesn't show it online

Body: 4 she is a least 40 pounds heavier than her photos

Attitude: 1 she was consistantly dissing guys on Scorps. Now called AE Source.

Don't say you haven't been warned.

Monger01
10-08-07, 21:25
About 7PM Monday, corner of 28th+Division I spotted a wsw blond mid 30's and slimmer than most. Pink top and jean shorts. Not bad looks for a sw. Exchanged "the look" but I had a passenger on board so no go for me.

I'll watch out for her again when I'm solo.

El Monger
10-09-07, 14:14
I am not sure what it looks like, AvaBlonde is a reviewed provider w/ only good reviews.
But if he saw her in Lansing, just dont know why he is posting it here?
Yes I have exchanged PM's w/her on SGUSA and I have not seen her becuase of her attitude, and the fact you cant see her face ,and the big pudge is hidden as well. I have and would recommend avoiding as well, seeing the notes here coincide with my experience.

Sigma9
10-15-07, 00:55
From the guy who first found out about the new gr AMP

I BRING U another new gr AMP opening up soon in gr area! Omg wtf LOL the owners of the " new gr AMP" are changing things around and moving to a store front with table showers etc and more employees. I was told that the new place will be only slightly higher in price but still low and no haggle 60-80 for the door fee and 100 for the tip.

They told me that they have recived a very warm welcome from gr's monger community and will expand into a much nice and new place and be more like other AMPs but without tha hassles.

Ohh and for all who know about the "new gr AMP" and have visted they have a new girl in that I just tried on sat and was great english skills wasnt all that great but other oral skills was pretty good about a 7 in looks id say but service as always was great.

Ohh and the owner asked me to ask all who know about them to please give some input on anything that could make you guys enjoy your time there even more. (within reason)

I'm taking kind of a more active role in the AMP because I finally want an AMP in town that has good service w/o cleaning me out.

And for the jackass that pmed me to talk shiet no I fking do not work for them. Although I do get a small break from the house fee.

NewLove24
10-16-07, 08:17
Saw a skinny bsw in the parking lot of McDonalds on Hall and Division around 7:30 pm, did the loop and found her a block down. Pulled up to the corner with the window down she asked if she could get. I offered her a ride but she didn't understand but finally just got in. Drove down around the block and did are you a cop thing. We both passed and she instructed to a place she wanted to go but I went the other way to be safe. Found a spot and got a bbbjcim for $22.00. She was sw 5 on looks and 6 on body.

Amp Middleman
10-20-07, 17:55
Any one been to the "secret " AMP in GR posted about a month ago?? I'm talking the one that you have to call first. I'm thinking of checking it out.

Gordo68
10-25-07, 18:30
I had been checking out some of the other threads from other cities that have many more pics than ours :-) and saw where some of the other mongers check out the county jail inmate lookups for pics of the gals working the streets. I found that quite interesting and looked up the Kent County jail and I have noticed that there is a lot of talent out there somewhere. Just wonder why I never see any!! LOL Anyways, I also noticed where it is frowned upon by the admin to post their pictures because they feel that it is promoting the PD's efforts to embarrass the girls. But check it out, I just usually check out the inmates by date and check the female names out, found a girl that I thought had left the area as still being around, so someone to go out looking for this weekend ;-). Have fun and be safe!

GrMojo
10-26-07, 07:55
I had been checking out some of the other threads from other cities that have many more pics than ours :-) and saw where some of the other mongers check out the county jail inmate lookups for pics of the gals working the streets. Ssexyisme, a former escort off of EV and SGUSA, used to fix me up with friends of her's, many of whom spent time in the Kent County Jail. I still see one that she met there, although her availability is getting more limited.

Dhelec
10-29-07, 14:06
I'm looking for AMP info in GR. Where are they located?

Dhelec
10-29-07, 17:24
I'll be visiting the GR area this weekend and was interested in aqny AMP's in the area. Can someone provide locations?

Dhelec
10-30-07, 06:50
A victim of Bill Gates' latest fiasco. AKA Vista.

Sigma9
10-30-07, 17:05
Try Rainbow Spa on Eastern.

They are a bit pricy for what you get.

TwistedBrother
10-31-07, 00:50
A victim of Bill Gates' latest fiasco. AKA Vista.

You're new and I'll be the first to tell you that the way we do things is not to repeat the same info over and over to every new person who comes in, but encourage people to read the reports we've taken the time to write. It's fun AND educational! ... I mean, I'd hate to think I wrote all these reports and you're not even going to read them :)

p.s., you won't have to read far to see all that's available.

El Monger
10-31-07, 15:41
I had been checking out some of the other threads from other cities that have many more pics than ours :-) and saw where some of the other mongers check out the county jail inmate lookups for pics of the gals working the streets. I found that quite interesting and looked up the Kent County jail and I have noticed that there is a lot of talent out there somewhere. Just wonder why I never see any!! LOL Anyways, I also noticed where it is frowned upon by the admin to post their pictures because they feel that it is promoting the PD's efforts to embarrass the girls. But check it out, I just usually check out the inmates by date and check the female names out, found a girl that I thought had left the area as still being around, so someone to go out looking for this weekend ;-). Have fun and be safe!
Well then, check their release dates and meet them as they get out or go visit. accesskent is the website.
LMAO, let me know how you do!

Gordo68
11-01-07, 03:51
The thought crossed my mind that a visit wouldn't be all that crazy! LOL There are some decent lookers in the tank right now!

El Monger
11-01-07, 10:28
The thought crossed my mind that a visit wouldn't be all that crazy! LOL There are some decent lookers in the tank right now!
Yeah, and put some money in her account too! Might be a good pay forward! LMFAO

Gordo68
11-01-07, 22:30
Anyone here recently been with cross-eyed Cat? If you have you will know of who I speak! ;-) She is a really good SW that I thought had left the area. Of course I used to have a number for her but you all know how often they lose/sell those damn disposable cells out there. Anyways, she was the girl that I realized was in the area again through the AccessKent inmate lookup and I would really like a hookup again if anyone here can give it to me. Back channel would be best and although I do not have a lot of posts here, I did have maybe 15-20 on the last board.

El Monger
11-02-07, 09:07
Belive it or not they gave this one work release! What a country!

El Monger
11-02-07, 09:09
Here is another currenty residing at our local county hotel.

El Monger
11-02-07, 09:12
I will post them in groups in the future.

El Monger
11-02-07, 09:14
Now at 6' and 200 lbs I bet she is a sight in person, can anyone say amazon?
She actually has a look about her. I digress.

Sigma9
11-04-07, 19:25
Hi everyone long time no post how have you all been? I hope everyone has been staying safe out there.

Ok is anyone on here a contractor? The "new gr AMP" people are getting ready to build their new place and need someone to put sinks into each room so they can open up there place, so what they need is for someone that knowns (professional) how to put in drainage pipes. Currenly each room they have is designed to be mini offices type and the city said they need a sink in each room.

They are not asking for someone to do it for free. So don't think that. All they want is for someone to do it that might acually care about quality (LOL because you will be going there) and maybe give a small discount. Anyone who is willing to do this will be automaticly a vip member for life with them and get discounts on the house fee (girls get tip so no help there but its allways a flat rate).

Well msg me if anyone here can do this, and be apart of bettering the monger community for everyone else.

TwistedBrother
11-05-07, 15:47
Nominee for most unique request of the year ... LOL ... seriously, sorry I can't help you out, but good luck!


Hi everyone long time no post how have you all been? I hope everyone has been staying safe out there.

Ok is anyone on here a contractor? The "new gr AMP" people are getting ready to build their new place and need someone to put sinks into each room so they can open up there place, so what they need is for someone that knowns (professional) how to put in drainage pipes. Currenly each room they have is designed to be mini offices type and the city said they need a sink in each room.

They are not asking for someone to do it for free. So don't think that. All they want is for someone to do it that might acually care about quality (LOL because you will be going there) and maybe give a small discount. Anyone who is willing to do this will be automaticly a vip member for life with them and get discounts on the house fee (girls get tip so no help there but its allways a flat rate).

Well msg me if anyone here can do this, and be apart of bettering the monger community for everyone else.

Datyforu
11-05-07, 17:20
I saw Avablonde awhile ago. One of the very worst experiences in my mongering life. Let me list the issues.

On scale of 1.10

10 = perfection

Face: 4 I imagine this is the reason she doesn't show it online

Body: 4 she is a least 40 pounds heavier than her photos

Attitude: 1 she was consistantly dissing guys on Scorps. Now called AE Source.

Don't say you haven't been warned.She is the worst I have experienced I wouldn't see her again if she paid me.

Sigma9
11-05-07, 17:47
Lol. Yeah even though I'm not in gr that much anymore I still am trying to help out the mongering community by doing what I can.

Gordo68
11-07-07, 17:16
Ok, so cross-eyed Cat is back in the pokey. This is her and if you ever get a chance at it take it. She can curl your toes!

Edit - trying to upload pic from Kent County Jail but not having much success!? Anyways, will keep trying.

Dondetroit
11-07-07, 18:59
I been with Kat twice 1st time had a great time. 2nd time not so good too rushed and not into it. I find that to be the case with the girls sometimes.
What date does she show on the site. How do you know what the girls are arrested for?
Don

Gordo68
11-07-07, 21:49
Looks like she was just picked up today for something, hasn't seen the judge yet so they do not post the charges until they do. She was in last month for prostitution.

Dondetroit
11-08-07, 18:01
Picked up Sara on Division near 28th street this afternoon. 5 6 135 lbs 30 years old. Great GFE. Gave her my number she has no contact info. Hope she calls me back. I think she will as she seemed to have almost as good a time as me. 30 for everything. Best find for me in awhile!
Don

Snow Man
11-08-07, 23:30
Looks like she was just picked up today for something, hasn't seen the judge yet so they do not post the charges until they do. She was in last month for prostitution.I'm not in Kent Co. but how do you find the "jailbird" photos? I'd like to use that tool in my area.

Gordo68
11-09-07, 03:52
I'm not in Kent Co. but how do you find the "jailbird" photos? I'd like to use that tool in my area.This link will take you to a search tool for inmates. Just go day by day and look for female names. Unless of course you know who you are looking for, then you can search by last name or last and first. Here is the link - https://www.accesskent.com/InmateLookup/

Dondetroit
11-09-07, 10:55
For GR go to kent county jail and click on inmate lookup and search by date or name if you know. I don't know how to find out what the charges are?
Don

El Monger
11-09-07, 11:06
For GR go to kent county jail and click on inmate lookup and search by date or name if you know. I don't know how to find out what the charges are?
Don
Click on charges next to their picture Don. The website is accesskent dot com.

Member #4025
11-09-07, 11:37
I'm from Lansing, but was in GR on Wednesday for a business meeting after which I made one trip on Division from downtown to 28th (construction in the middle sucked).

I did not partake, but I did see (2) wsw and (1) bsw on my drive. A late 20's red head on an east side street near 28th, probably a 5 - 6; a late 30's blonde on Division near downtown, probably a 4; and a late 30's early 40's bsw on Division near downtown, probably a 3 - 4, she looked hard.

That's really all I know, just an opportunity to comparison shop; and unfortunately there does not seem to be much difference between your fair city and mine.

Stay safe and keep reporting.

GrMojo
11-09-07, 13:41
For GR go to kent county jail and click on inmate lookup and search by date or name if you know. I don't know how to find out what the charges are?

DonFinding the charges is pretty easy, once you find the record for the person in question. You simply click on a link for the charges.

Dondetroit
11-15-07, 12:28
Met up with Holly on Tuesday night. Found out she's 25. Full service GFE for 30. Had a better time with her than before. She is presently staying at the Landmark on 28th. She is very cautious about meeting new guys. Kinda funny that she'll get in a car with someone she doesn't know but won't met someone that was given her number. Go figure. Nice find for me anyways.
Don

GrMojo
11-15-07, 15:45
Met up with Holly on Tuesday night. Found out she's 25. Full service GFE for 30. Had a better time with her than before. She is presently staying at the Landmark on 28th. She is very cautious about meeting new guys. Kinda funny that she'll get in a car with someone she doesn't know but won't met someone that was given her number. Go figure. Nice find for me anyways.
DonI got the definite impression that any reference to a computer scares the hell out of her. She's always welcome to call me, but I just think she has a phobia about anyone giving her number out, via a computer.

MWM
11-16-07, 16:36
Guys, be carefull out there. I was stood up by a CL gal and hit division. Spotted a very cute wsw about 25 y/o. She is about 5'6" tall, thin and very healthey looking...not a crack *****. Dressed in jeans and a dark jacket and she had brunnette hair with some blonde streaks. Her hair was a few inches past her shoulders. She's a very attractive woman.

Anyway, she says she just needs a ride, acting nervous like she is new to the business. She finally gets in and I give her a ride about 4 blocks east of Division and about 4 south of Wealthy. We get there and she asks if I want to come in for a drink. Forgetting rule number 2 of the monger bible (#2-never let the girl pick the spot and don't go back to her place unless you already know her well), I said yes. We walk in the back door and just as she gets to the door 3 black guys in their 20's jump out wielding knives. Fuck, I almost shit my pants. They get me on my knees, knife at my throat, rifle all the cash out of my pocket ($51) and then ransack my car for more $.

At one point I was sure I was dead. I kept telling them I left my wallet at home, really at the motel room but I didn't want them to know I was from out of town. They didn't find anything in the car they wanted, leaving a bunch of tools in the trunk and a carton of cigs. Fortunatley I remebered rule #3 which is; don't put your wallet anywhere that someone can find it.

So I get the fuck out of there, still feeling the point of a huge knife sticking in my neck. This is a life changing event for me. I was so stupid to fall into this trap because I know better but got caught thinking with the small head because she was so hot.

So I guess nows a good time for me to reread Chester's rules of safe mongering. He wrote these years ago while plying the trade in Chicago and they really are helpfull for newbies and dumb asses like myself. I am pretty sure they are somewhere here on this board. They were on the old board.

Be carefull out there. I thought chicago was bad but GR really sucks. I actually had my first and one of my best SW experiences in GR back in 1982. Picked her up one block from last night's pick up. So my first and now my worst. Hopefully someone can learn from my dumb ass mistake. I sure have.

T Nickel
11-16-07, 23:10
Thanks for the heads up MWM. Sorry you had to go through such a terrible experience.

Dondetroit
11-17-07, 19:24
Kat is out of jail as I picked her up near the Burger King on division north of 44th st. Had a great time she sure gives a great bbbj.

Division finally opened all the way now but not a lot of action today.

Don

Snow Man
11-17-07, 23:25
Kat is out of jail as I picked her up near the Burger King on division north of 44th st. Had a great time she sure gives a great bbbj.

Division finally opened all the way now but not a lot of action today.

DonI'm not doubting your post, but I always thought the "traditional" stroll on Division ended at 28th (because of LE in Wyoming).

I'm not from GR, but spend some time there, and I know city boundaries kinda zig zag there. Is it normal to see SW's further south on Division, and how far South?

GrMojo
11-18-07, 05:59
I'm not doubting your post, but I always thought the "traditional" stroll on Division ended at 28th (because of LE in Wyoming).

I'm not from GR, but spend some time there, and I know city boundaries kinda zig zag there. Is it normal to see SW's further south on Division, and how far South?He's not the only one to find SWs south of 28th, if you look at the posts. I've been introduced to women in the hobby who are a little south of 44th Street, although that's not the norm. The Jim Williams Motel has a lot of hobby traffic and the Walgreens at 28th and Division seems to have women in the parking lot, considering that the motel across 28th sees a lot of hobby traffic.

Gordo68
11-18-07, 08:52
The stroll is generally from just a little past the first light N of 28th on Division as that is supposed to be the Wyoming limit and apparently the girls say that Wyoming PD is really rough on them (careful with girls on the S side of that light as WPD likes to run stings there). It extends all the way to around Cherry with hotspots near Hall and also near the MP. Alternate strolls are supposed to be off of Grandville from Burton to Wealthy (plus surrounding) and hardcore crackheads off of Eastern from Franklin to just N of Wealthy and surrounding side streets. Apparently there is some action to be had in the Alpine area and also the College area near Leonard but not familiar with it.

Tom Kat
11-20-07, 09:25
Hello GR mongers. I don't live around GR. Do my hobbying mostly around South Bend, IN but was passing by GR on my way home from deer hunting. I had seen a sign for the Rainbow Spa on Eastern on the way up and thought I would give it a go. I was greeted by the Mamasan and she gave me the rate for a massage. I asked if extra services were available and she told me no. I figure either she said no because she had not seen me before or they really are not available. I do go up that way occassionally so I am looking for a good AMP with FS. Has anyone had experience with the Rainbow or others?

Eagle55
11-20-07, 13:20
TomKat

Never ever ask the mammasan if extras are available. With the crackdown on AMP's around the country try to be a little more subtle. When in the table shower or in the room, gently rub the girls leg. When she is comfortable with you and feels that you are not L.E. she will ask you what else you want.
This approach has never failed me.

Eagle out

Dondetroit
11-20-07, 14:51
Picked up Johny today around 1 pm. Had been with her a couple of times before. A little more pricey than what I normally pay but a great GFE. Made the pickup around where yhe BK used to be just north of 44th on Division. Smoking body around 40 years old. I live just south of 44 just off division so when I'm out looking I go up Division starting at 44th. I have seen a few SW from 44 to 28 quite often. I've even talked to some while taking a bike ride up and down division. Thanks to the head up about stings I wasn't aware of that although girls have told me Wyoming LE are tough on them.

Tom Kat
11-21-07, 09:07
Thanks for the tip Eagle. I have not been to an AMP in a long time and guess I am a bit rusty at it. They basically closed down every AMP in my area over the last few years.
TomKat



TomKat

Never ever ask the mammasan if extras are available. With the crackdown on AMP's around the country try to be a little more subtle. When in the table shower or in the room, gently rub the girls leg. When she is comfortable with you and feels that you are not L.E. she will ask you what else you want.
This approach has never failed me.

Eagle out

Snickers450
11-22-07, 16:59
Rainbow Spa is a good place to go to.

You can get FS too.

Just wait until you get to the tables before asking.

TwistedBrother
11-23-07, 12:24
The "new GR amp" that Sig originally wrote us about is still alive and kicking. I saw a "Yumi" last night that was much better looking than the first gal I saw. Same 1.6 total, still in same place for now. It wasn't the GFE, all out with extras service that I've gotten from a few others around the state, but it was pretty much worth it for the price. Pretty much a standard CFS.

Snickers450
11-25-07, 23:36
I seen Yumi this morning around 1230, When I got there she had a set pf PJ's on. She is good looking and wants to please you. She said something about going to New York in a few weeks.

Price was 1.6 and not GFE but I did have a great time.

Snickers450
11-30-07, 01:23
I always wondered about this. I have seen a very few SW's but have never asked them this question. I just went with my gut feeling. So far so good.

Most of the time I just go to the AMP's The worst is a No.

If we meet a LE in a sting and ask them if they are LE do they have to respond honestly?

Can they say No and then arrest you after giving them money or offering it in exchange for services?

Just wondering.

Eddie Hawkins
11-30-07, 10:10
I always wondered about this. I have seen a very few SW's but have never asked them this question. I just went with my gut feeling. So far so good.

Most of the time I just go to the AMP's The worst is a No.

If we meet a LE in a sting and ask them if they are LE do they have to respond honestly?

Can they say No and then arrest you after giving them money or offering it in exchange for services?

Just wondering.Yes, they can say no and arrest you afterwards. The best advice I've heard is to follow the lead of those who post pictures in the photo gallery: ask the girl if she'd be willing to pose nude for a few photos. Cops won't, period. Also, if the girl flashes you a breast or farther south, it's just as good. No cop will bare it for you.

Snickers450
12-01-07, 01:18
That sounds like good advice.

Thanks M8

Dondetroit
12-01-07, 13:40
One other thing they won't get in your car so just ask them if they want a ride around the block so you can talk to them. If they won't get in just tell them to have a nice day.

Dondetroit
12-02-07, 20:19
Went out with Holly tonight and a good time was had by all. She is going to start working for an escort service this week under the name Renee. Will post the name of the service so you guys can see what she looks like. She is suppose to call me and let me know and I think she will.

GrMojo
12-15-07, 02:31
Yes, they can say no and arrest you afterwards. The best advice I've heard is to follow the lead of those who post pictures in the photo gallery: ask the girl if she'd be willing to pose nude for a few photos. Cops won't, period. Also, if the girl flashes you a breast or farther south, it's just as good. No cop will bare it for you.I wouldn't say that no cop will bare it for you. Cops have been known to pose as johns, fuck the woman and arrest her for prostitution - perfectly legal in Michigan, when a cop is trying to build a case. It's just bad publicity, if it's known that the cops can go that far.

El Monger
12-21-07, 12:32
Picked up HSW says name is Eileen 5'2 130 @ 12:30 am one block north of Alger on east side of road, down side street a little, says she has a warrant so is staying just off the stroll. BBBJTCCIM .20, looks 7, performance 7 would repeat, asked for digits, none.

El Monger

Monger01
12-27-07, 00:11
I must be the king of bad timing. So excuse the whiney tone here but is it just me? If I'm hunting I see NOTHING! And I'm in 2 cities alternately through the week. NOTHING in ages.

A while back in this thread I mentioned spotting WSW near Div. On 28th, which isn't so common to see on the Wyoming end of Division in years.

Well in the past 3 days I've seen a WSW, blond thin (means crack I'd assume) about a 4 on the SW scale from what I could tell. She's working south of 32nd to about the Jon Williams. Saw her the 1st time 10PM on Xmas-eve in the middle of all that heavy wind and snow no less. She was way too bold. Not just returning "the look" but hopping into the road as I passed and flagging cars with arms even. But being xmas eve I had deadlines to get where I was heading. No way I could stop. I saw no LE but she was so bold the thought she was a decoy crossed my mind.

Well tonight about the same time she's hoofing it north on Division shooting the look as I pass by. Thin blue jacket and smoking a cig.

And again, I cannot stop. Sig. Other knows I just left to grab something so no way I can be out for long enough to hook up.

Damn frustrating after so long a dry spell but maybe my report will help one of you other mongers with less chains attached, if you get my drift.

Stay safe

El Monger
12-27-07, 10:54
I must be the king of bad timing. So excuse the whiney tone here but is it just me? If I'm hunting I see NOTHING! And I'm in 2 cities alternately through the week. NOTHING in ages.

A while back in this thread I mentioned spotting WSW near Div. On 28th, which isn't so common to see on the Wyoming end of Division in years.

Well in the past 3 days I've seen a WSW, blond thin (means crack I'd assume) about a 4 on the SW scale from what I could tell. She's working south of 32nd to about the Jon Williams. Saw her the 1st time 10PM on Xmas-eve in the middle of all that heavy wind and snow no less. She was way too bold. Not just returning "the look" but hopping into the road as I passed and flagging cars with arms even. But being xmas eve I had deadlines to get where I was heading. No way I could stop. I saw no LE but she was so bold the thought she was a decoy crossed my mind.

Well tonight about the same time she's hoofing it north on Division shooting the look as I pass by. Thin blue jacket and smoking a cig.

And again, I cannot stop. Sig. Other knows I just left to grab something so no way I can be out for long enough to hook up.

Damn frustrating after so long a dry spell but maybe my report will help one of you other mongers with less chains attached, if you get my drift.

Stay safe


Yes. I have seen her too. Christmas Evein fact in the afternoon 2-3 pm ish, in the blue coat with a scarf.
3-4 on looks scale 25 yo ish 5'5" 135? very bold, I saw her south of 32nd and as far as half way between 36th and 44th, so they are south of 28th now!
I havent picked her up, she is too abvoius, maybe another time?

Monger01
12-27-07, 21:00
Yea that's her.

So bold I figure she'll be in the pokey by week's end.

I looked for her tonight about 5:30-6PM but saw nothing on that stretch.

If I hookup I'll report here.

Stay safe.


Yes. I have seen her too. Christmas Evein fact in the afternoon 2-3 pm ish, in the blue coat with a scarf.

3-4 on looks scale 25 yo ish 5'5" 135? very bold, I saw her south of 32nd and as far as half way between 36th and 44th, so they are south of 28th now!

I havent picked her up, she is too abvoius, maybe another time?

Monger01
01-08-08, 21:24
I've cruised her last known area on and off different days and different times.
Haven't seen her since my last report.

Anyone?




Yea that's her.

So bold I figure she'll be in the pokey by week's end.

I looked for her tonight about 5:30-6PM but saw nothing on that stretch.

If I hookup I'll report here.

Stay safe.

El Monger
01-09-08, 09:51
I've cruised her last known area on and off different days and different times.
Haven't seen her since my last report.

Anyone?
I saw her last weekend carring a bag (duffle?) walking N. on Division @ 36th and all the way to 28th. I circled a couple times to see if it was her and it was, she was cleaned up, but looked as she was heading out of town really or relocating. This time she had an abvious gray patch in her bangs no scarf.

El Monger

Sigma9
01-16-08, 01:42
Ok guys there is a new gr AMP in gr area agian

Opened by the people that opened "new gr AMP" for those of you that have went to that one. Its basiclly the same deal $. 60 total out the door price

They are located close to the original location. They also are allowing me to post there number instead of just sharing to senior members

They have high rotation in girls, about 1-2 months and currently have 4 girls avail I believe. Have not gone yet but will prob go sometime this week or next.

As others have reported for the price it is a great place.

They have showers (not table) and a sauna

Their number is 616-249-2818 open from 10am-12am

And like always please done fk it up for the rest of us and ruin this place by being an general ass.

And stay safe out there guys.

Dondetroit
01-16-08, 13:00
Met up with Lou Ann south of 28th on Division. 40 something not a great looker but does she give a great bjcim for 20-25. She is living with her mother and her daughter not far from 44th and Division.

Arp1966
01-16-08, 19:34
Things are looking good in the heights. I went for a cruise last night between 7 & 8 PM and saw at least 10 wsw and too many bsw to count in the area of Broadway and Columbia. A couple were on the heavy side but all were doable. I usually dont pick them up these days, just cruise for the thrill of the hunt, but i saw one i just had to have on Columbia and sixth. She looked 18 or 19 petite lite blond hair possably a few months preg or a little pudge in the tummy. She was with another older girl (maby a mother daughter team?) She looked too good to be a sw so i was cautious and missed my chance. I drove past them several times and they waved and smiled, they defiantly were not civilians. On the third pass it looked like the car behind me picked them up. I cruised for an hour and they never came back out. Also didnt see any LE the whole time i cruised the area.

Today i cruised the area for a few munites around 4:30 PM and saw 3 young blonds in an older black suburban working. they were trying to wave cars down, I watched the two passangers get picked up then the driver parked in front of the old Art Smiths bar to wait for them. I tried to get her, she looked innocent and not a sw. I drove by her a few times and waved and honked and even stoped next to her and she just stared strait ahead and wouldnt even look at me. I didnt have time to really try so i left.

El Monger
01-17-08, 10:00
Here are a couple current SW in our local County hotel.

Sigma9
01-18-08, 18:38
Hey Twisted,

Msg me about when your gonna try out the new place I'll see if I can get you the service you like or atleast find out whos best LOL.

Bulls Eye
01-24-08, 23:20
Checked out new massage parlor. Service was genuine with effort to produce steam, shower, and massage effect. Went in w/only. 60 but more was expected, oh well. H & H was still available but more would have cost more, the lady provided was a 5 but did not speak a of lick of english which made for a boring session but no complaint considering my usual craiglist SP was not available.

El Monger
01-25-08, 10:15
Checked out new massage parlor. Service was genuine with effort to produce steam, shower, and massage effect. Went in w/only. 60 but more was expected, oh well. H & H was still available but more would have cost more, the lady provided was a 5 but did not speak a of lick of english which made for a boring session but no complaint considering my usual craiglist SP was not available.

Okay please elaborate which new place and location? And I will assume h & h was half and half. Please re-read your post, it helps if the post is more clear and concise.
Thanks for contributing!

Bulls Eye
01-25-08, 13:43
Check out the info providing in sigma9 01/16/08 post.

Forget the H&H business.

Monger01
01-25-08, 19:52
Check out the info providing in sigma9 01/16/08 post.

Forget the H&H business.

Are you saying you got "service" for .6?
Or am I misreading your post?

Sig said $.6 not .6

For .6 for fs or bj I'm there in a heartbeat.
For 1.6, well, that's 8 sw pickups, I'll pass.

Bulls Eye
01-27-08, 21:52
Only HJ for .6

Sigma9
01-28-08, 17:48
Lol when I read that I was like wtf they are ripping me off LOL.

60 is door fee for one hour $ is tip. That includes steam suana. If you guys haven't tried steam sauna yet you gotta try it. Dry saunas just don't compare.

Went there last weekend and had a pretty good time girl was 6-7 looks mid-late 30's but service was great absolutly no rush. I took my sweet time.

Dondetroit
01-30-08, 13:26
Found Tammy on Divison just south of Burton on Monday night. 40 year old small frame with a great smile. The best bbbjcim I think I ever had a little pricey at 30 but worth every bit of it. About a 7. No contact info but she has my number and definately see again.
Don

Dondetroit
01-30-08, 14:06
Kat that a few of us know is in Kent County. Arrested for drug possession 25000 cash bond. I found out by calling her number and was told how to give her some money for her to use. He said she'd probably be out in 30 days. Doesn't that sound optimistic with that type of bond?
You can see her mug shot under the Kent County Jail site her name is Katherine Hernandez and she was arrested on 1-28.
Don

Member #4974
02-14-08, 11:53
I'm suprised to report that I saw 3 ladies out last night around 11pm.. I usually cruise much later. I was short on $$ so couldn't partake, but saw an HSW on Division near the Party store/fire station area N of Burton, then 2 more, 1B & 1W north of Wealthy.. the WSW looked a little older but OK from 30/30 (30 ft at 30 mph). I might check the area out again this weekend.

El Monger
02-16-08, 11:02
Here are a couple that were recenty busted on prostitution, GR police must have nothing better to do.

MWM
02-16-08, 14:42
Ouch, the one on the left looks to be a specialist in erection prevention. Looking good grandma!


Here are a couple that were recenty busted on prostitution, GR police must have nothing better to do.

T Nickel
02-16-08, 23:50
Ouch, the one on the left looks to be a specialist in erection prevention. Looking good grandma!

Yep a 2 bagger.

T Nickel
02-17-08, 13:42
Yep a 2 bagger.

As the OLD joke goes, If they are ugly put a bag over their head. If they are really ugly put two bags over their head in case one bag breaks.

El Monger
02-22-08, 09:55
Another one for your viewing pleasure.

RoadWarrior615
02-23-08, 18:12
Another one for your viewing pleasure.She is ugly and whats wrong with her face. She got HIV?

RoadWarrior615
02-23-08, 18:14
Another one for your viewing pleasure.Thats the girl off Division right.? She always wears a brown fear coat?

Gordo68
02-26-08, 06:10
Cute Redhead, looks to be pretty newbie-ish.

Edit- Looks like she was released this A.M.

El Monger
03-05-08, 10:21
Here is another, havent seen her out.

El Monger
03-06-08, 15:30
Here is another waste of jail space. You would think with the situation here in Michigan that there would be less SW's in jail and more criminals.

El Monger
03-07-08, 12:09
The last post is on work release. Hmmm under the Judges bench?

Gordo68
03-07-08, 15:37
The last post is on work release. Hmmm under the Judges bench?So is the infamous Kat. I have heard that they let some of them work in the kitchen and such and call it work release too though. A little more freedom than just sitting in a cell all day I guess.

El Monger
03-13-08, 08:37
Not in for SW'ing but money fraud, looks like a girl that was posting on CL about 6 mo ago. (Ashley ?)

El Monger
03-13-08, 08:38
So is the infamous Kat. I have heard that they let some of them work in the kitchen and such and call it work release too though. A little more freedom than just sitting in a cell all day I guess.
No that would be a trustee, and they are not classified as on work release.

Datyforu
03-13-08, 13:34
Not in for SW'ing but money fraud, looks like a girl that was posting on CL about 6 mo ago. (Ashley ?)She looks similar to Ashley but Ashley had quite the nose so I'm not sure.

El Monger
03-17-08, 08:32
Here are to more at the Hotel on Ball Ave N.E.. One is a recent return.

El Monger
03-17-08, 08:35
Here are a couple that were recenty busted on prostitution, GR police must have nothing better to do.
The one on the right is a return. See post 175. (would not carry attachments.)

Gordo68
03-25-08, 12:33
Pretty little 5'2" 100lbs spinner!

Gordo68
03-25-08, 22:18
New girl in KCJ, never seen her on the track before but she is 3rd time offender and will be there for 10 months!

El Monger
03-26-08, 10:58
Pretty little 5'2" 100lbs spinner!
Court Records Search

Criminal Case View


Defendant

Defendant Case Number Language
Johnson, Patrice Mariel 2007-SM-0000073
Mailing address Race Sex Height
2528 Reynolds St
Muskegon Heights , MI 49444 Black F
DOB Weight Hair Eyes
01/24/1985
Attorney Firm Attorney Phone Judge
Benjamin H. Logan


Charges

Offense Date Date Closed Offense Description Disposition Disposition Date
01/11/2007 Solicit Prostitution Guilty 01/12/2007


Sentence

Fines Jail Days Probation Balance Due Balance Due By
$ 0.00 7 N $ 0.00
Bench Warrant Issued
N


Bonds

Date Issued Type Amount Posted Date
01/11/2007 Surety $ 2000.00 01/13/2007
01/11/2007 Cash $ 100.00 03/14/2007


ROA

Date Judge
01/12/2007 New Case Filed No Judge
01/12/2007 Hearing Scheduled (Video Arraignment 01/12/2007 01:30 PM) Benjamin H. Logan
01/12/2007 Hearing result for Video Arraignment held on 01/12/2007 01:30 PM: Guilty Plea - $2,000 10% bond w/s.c. curfew LEIN, file to PSI. Benjamin H. Logan
01/12/2007 Guilty Plea (Guilty 750.448CL Solicit Prostitution) Benjamin H. Logan
01/12/2007 Case status changed: adjudicated Benjamin H. Logan
01/16/2007 Hearing Scheduled (Sentencing 02/13/2007 10:30 AM) Benjamin H. Logan
01/16/2007 Notice To Appear Issued and Sent Benjamin H. Logan
01/16/2007 psi Benjamin H. Logan
01/16/2007 DNA testing completed. No Judge
01/23/2007 Surety Bond Posted (Amount 2000.00 ) Benjamin H. Logan
02/13/2007 Bonding company present to speak w/BHL. States Def. is in Detroit. Def. fta for sentencing. BW to issue. Benjamin H. Logan
02/13/2007 Hearing result for Sentencing held on 02/13/2007 10:30 AM: Failed to Appear - BW to issue. Benjamin H. Logan
02/13/2007 Bench Warrant Issued Bond amount: .00 Failure to Appear ON 2-13-07 FOR SENTENCING Benjamin H. Logan
02/13/2007 Case status changed: inactive-post adjudication Benjamin H. Logan
02/15/2007 Hearing Scheduled (Order Forfeiting Bond and OTSC 03/08/2007 09:00 AM) Notice processed by Collections for Def and M&M Bail Bonds to appear. Benjamin H. Logan
02/26/2007 Warrant Served Failure to Appear Benjamin H. Logan
02/26/2007 Case status changed: reopened-post adjudication Benjamin H. Logan
02/26/2007 Hearing Scheduled (Video Arraignment 02/26/2007 10:00 AM) Patrick C. Bowler
02/26/2007 Hearing result for Video Arraignment held on 02/26/2007 10:00 AM: Hearing Held - SENTENCED - P/S $290 OR 6 DAYS. COMPLETE AIDS/VENEREAL DISEASE/HEPATITIS C TESTING AT KCHD AND PROVIDE PROOF BY 03/27/07 OR 5 DAYS IN JAIL. Patrick C. Bowler
02/26/2007 Fine and/or fees assessed 140.00 charge: 750.448CL Solicit Prostitution Benjamin H. Logan
02/27/2007 COMM TO KCJ ON 02/26/2007 4D MAND AND $290 OR 6D P/S - SENTENCE BEGINS ON 02/24/07 No Judge
03/08/2007 Hearing result for Order Forfeiting Bond and OTSC held on 03/08/2007 09:00 AM: Hearing Held Notice processed by Collections for Def and M&M Bail Bonds to appear. - SURETY FTA, JUDGMENT ENTERED IN THE AMOUNT OF $ 100.00 TO BE PAID BY M&M BAIL BONDS BY 3/15/07 Benjamin H. Logan
03/09/2007 Fax'd health testing order to KCHD. No Judge
03/09/2007 Hearing Scheduled (Review 03/27/2007 09:00 AM) Rev. for health testing completion No Judge
03/13/2007 M&M BONDING TO PAY $ 100.00 BY 3/15/07 PER BHL JUDGMENT ENTERED 3/8/07 No Judge
03/14/2007 Cash Bond Posted (Receipt 732875 Dated 3/14/2007 for 100.00) by M&M Bonding - file given to Vicki O Benjamin H. Logan
03/19/2007 Bond Forfeited (Amount 100.00) Benjamin H. Logan
03/30/2007 Hearing result for Review held on 03/27/2007 09:00 AM: Hearing cancelled Rev. for health testing completion No Judge
03/30/2007 Dft. fta health testing per KCHD. No Judge
03/30/2007 Hearing Scheduled (OTSC 04/13/2007 09:00 AM) No Judge
03/30/2007 OTSC Notice Sent Benjamin H. Logan
04/16/2007 Hearing result for OTSC held on 04/13/2007 09:00 AM: Bench Warrant to be issued No Judge
04/20/2007 Bench Warrant Issued Bond amount: .00 Failure to Comply with Health Testing Defendant: Johnson, Patrice Mariel Benjamin H. Logan
04/24/2007 Case status changed: inactive-post adjudication Benjamin H. Logan
01/02/2008 Warrant Served Failure to Comply with Health Testing Defendant: Johnson, Patrice Mariel Benjamin H. Logan
01/02/2008 Case status changed: reopened-post adjudication Benjamin H. Logan
01/02/2008 Hearing Scheduled (Video Arraignment 01/08/2008 10:30 AM) Fred D. Hartley
01/02/2008 Hearing result for Video Arraignment held on 01/08/2008 10:30 AM: Hearing Held - proof of mandatory health testing due on 2-2-08 or BW Fred D. Hartley
01/02/2008 Hearing Scheduled (Review 02/04/2008 08:00 AM) for health testing Benjamin H. Logan
02/06/2008 Hearing result for Review held on 02/04/2008 08:00 AM: Hearing cancelled for health testing No Judge
02/06/2008 Left message for health supervisor at KCHD, if dft. completed health testing or not. No Judge
02/07/2008 Per KCHD, dft. did not report again for testing. BW or susp.? No Judge
02/12/2008 BW auth. Benjamin H. Logan
02/12/2008 *** NOT IN KCJ *** Benjamin H. Logan
02/14/2008 Bench Warrant Issued Bond amount: .00 Failure to Comply WITH COURT ORDER Defendant: Johnson, Patrice Mariel Benjamin H. Logan
02/14/2008 Case status changed: inactive-post adjudication Benjamin H. Logan
03/25/2008 Warrant Served Failure to Comply WITH COURT ORDER - TESTING Defendant: Johnson, Patrice Mariel Benjamin H. Logan
03/25/2008 Case status changed: reopened-post adjudication Benjamin H. Logan
03/25/2008 Hearing Scheduled (Video Arraignment 03/25/2008 10:30 AM) Fred D. Hartley
03/25/2008 Hearing result for Video Arraignment held on 03/25/2008 10:30 AM: Hearing Held. Dft. to have HIV test. Return form by 4/25/08 Fred D. Hartley
03/25/2008 Hearing Scheduled (Review 04/25/2008 09:00 AM) Rev. for health testing No Judge


Party History

Case Role Status Filing Date
2007-SM-0000073 Solicit Prostitution Reopened-Post Adjudication 01/12/2007

Gordo68
03-26-08, 11:21
Yeah, that's why we wrap it up out there. This is a great reminder to do that everytime! I might have a report on Saturday as I plan to do some cruising on Friday.

RoadWarrior615
03-26-08, 15:31
Yeah that girl Has something. Thats why she isn't doing the health testing.

Gordo68
03-27-08, 07:02
She's out already so maybe she was just too high to get her stuff done. Regardless, that's what the trojans are for ;-)

El Monger
03-27-08, 08:56
The black girl is an 8 time looser for solicitation, and at almost 55 years old I cant believe she would even get picked up! Just my .02.

El Monger
03-27-08, 09:03
Picked up HSW the other night, 20yo 5'2 135 big tits, big ass. 5 on the looks scale, she was tweaking so just a quick BBBJ .20. Unusual spot though, west of buchannan south of griggs on side street 1 block south of Griggs? park. She wanted to stay with me, very stoned, almost had to physically remove her from my vehicle, had to threaten to kick her ass if she didnt get the F%$# out! She went for the whole monte though DT, ball sucking and finished on her face. A little teethy though if ya know what I mean.
All for .20, but the hassle almost freaked me out. Would not repeat.

El Monger
03-28-08, 08:35
Here is one that I missed, in on Prostitution.

BootyCall
03-28-08, 09:41
I think pics posted off police sites are a waste of space and time. Those who live in that area knows how to look up and see who were arrested. These pics are posted nation wide and are of no interest to others.
My .02
BC

Eddie Hawkins
03-28-08, 10:50
I think pics posted off police sites are a waste of space and time. Those who live in that area knows how to look up and see who were arrested. These pics are posted nation wide and are of no interest to others.
My .02
BC

I agree. I mean, in all sincere curiosity, why do you guys post them? Is there a reason other than just to do it? I thought this thread was supposed to be reports on mongers' time spent with SPs, not their time spent away from mongers.

If you've posted why you do it in an earlier thread, I apologize, but I can't find it. So, please, now that the question is up again, can someone answer it one more time? Thanks.

Waxon1
03-28-08, 12:38
I feel the photos are helpful.
Why? If I see the same girls on the street I will know she is not LE.
Yes this is a nation wide board but a guy will not be looking in GR unless he has a reason to look such as being in town for a day or two.
I don't live in GR but I still use the board.
Nuff said?


I agree. I mean, in all sincere curiosity, why do you guys post them? Is there a reason other than just to do it? I thought this thread was supposed to be reports on mongers' time spent with SPs, not their time spent away from mongers.

If you've posted why you do it in an earlier thread, I apologize, but I can't find it. So, please, now that the question is up again, can someone answer it one more time? Thanks.

RoadWarrior615
03-28-08, 13:11
The black girl is an 8 time looser for solicitation, and at almost 55 years old I cant believe she would even get picked up! Just my .02.You'll be suprised.

Eddie Hawkins
03-28-08, 14:20
Why? If I see the same girls on the street I will know she is not LE.

I didn't think about that. Thanks for answering my question.

Gordo68
03-28-08, 17:43
My feeling is the same as Harmonic's. I mean, I see girls in KCJ that I know are on the game but I will not post a pic unless Prostitution is the charge. I figure then it is general knowledge and the pics can be of some use to my fellow mongers in ID'ing SPs. Since they have already been in on those charges then I am not doing LE any favors in pointing the girls out either. If Admin asks me to stop posting this kind of pic I will, but I do feel that they are useful and if I have personal experience I will post them too along with the pics.

El Monger
03-31-08, 09:44
I agree. I mean, in all sincere curiosity, why do you guys post them? Is there a reason other than just to do it? I thought this thread was supposed to be reports on mongers' time spent with SPs, not their time spent away from mongers.

If you've posted why you do it in an earlier thread, I apologize, but I can't find it. So, please, now that the question is up again, can someone answer it one more time? Thanks.
To generate feedback, if we were to see them on the street and havent before, and to show us that we are missing something if we havent seen them out on the stroll.

El Monger
03-31-08, 14:05
Here is yet another one. But be Careful, unless HE is your thing. He has a womans name but listed as a male, for you TS/Crossdresser lovers!

MWM
03-31-08, 23:02
Yikes!!! This is exactly why the photos are a good thing.




Here is yet another one. But be Careful, unless HE is your thing. He has a womans name but listed as a male, for you TS/Crossdresser lovers!

El Monger
04-01-08, 08:48
I think pics posted off police sites are a waste of space and time. Those who live in that area knows how to look up and see who were arrested. These pics are posted nation wide and are of no interest to others.
My .02
BC
So Booty Call still feel the same, well if not pick her/him up for the surprise of your life, unless thats what your into! LMOA, couldnt resist!

El Monger
04-02-08, 15:08
Cant believe I missed this one out there!

Gordo68
04-02-08, 17:48
She is nice enough if she isn't completely blitzed, but if she is really high then watch for the cash and dash! She is a good size girl, has a kind of pretty face, and usually is in braids, that is a new look for her really.

El Monger
04-03-08, 08:30
I would bet my mongering cash that she is in for Sw'ing, a long list of priors for it.

Dondetroit
04-05-08, 08:15
Cant believe I missed this one out there!
She is very cute but her performance was very mechanical. Seen twice and didn't repeat after that although seeing her out quite often.

GrMojo
04-05-08, 10:27
Not in for SW'ing but money fraud, looks like a girl that was posting on CL about 6 mo ago. (Ashley ?)As in Ashley A? That's not her.

Dondetroit
04-09-08, 09:30
Looks as if Holly was arrested this morning(late last night). She looks worse than the last time I seen here about a month ago. That what their lifestyle does to them over time. She's a very nice girl and a great gfe date. It seems like less and less girls to chose from on the streets(especially with any quality). I'm glad I have my 3 or 4 regulars that I can call anytime!
Don

El Monger
04-09-08, 16:20
Looks as if Holly was arrested this morning(late last night). She looks worse than the last time I seen here about a month ago. That what their lifestyle does to them over time. She's a very nice girl and a great gfe date. It seems like less and less girls to chose from on the streets(especially with any quality). I'm glad I have my 3 or 4 regulars that I can call anytime!
Don
Yeah she is looking like the streets are getting to her, I have never saw her outor had a "date" w/her, I did see that she was in today. Regulars Don?
Come on give up the goods!
As always its good to see your post Don.

Gordo68
04-15-08, 17:15
If you ever run across this girl be very careful! She actually can look pretty good on the stroll, but she is going to try to get dope money and run the first chance she gets. Goes by Cadillac on the street.

Gordo68
04-16-08, 17:04
I have picked up this girl before, but did not have time to partake. Great butt, a little cracne at the time, nice body with clothes on, and a firm top for the LE check. I'd love to actually get some time with her because she does have a sexy way about her and I would appreciate anyone with experience letting me know how she is. Anyhow, this is her-

Gordo68
04-18-08, 08:49
Unfortunately they are getting scooped up by LE! This one looks cute, but 3rd time offender and I've yet to see her out. She must be one of the afternoon delights that are out before I get there.

RoadWarrior615
04-18-08, 17:05
I have picked up this girl before, but did not have time to partake. Great butt, a little cracne at the time, nice body with clothes on, and a firm top for the LE check. I'd love to actually get some time with her because she does have a sexy way about her and I would appreciate anyone with experience letting me know how she is. Anyhow, this is her-Are you serious?

Gordo68
04-19-08, 08:35
Are you serious?In what sense? I would definitely like to spend some time with her. She looks good enough on the stroll that I picked her up that one time just to get her number. Gave her a five for taking the time to ride with me and let me have her number for future reference. Of course, as they use disposable cells, it was no longer a valid number when I tried to use it later.

Jd Boy 1975
04-30-08, 18:57
There are two girls working for michigan ladies at an incall appt off 44th Hidden Lakes-sisters I beleive. Be careful, lots of not so nice BF's around, bad attitudes and may be involved in an undercover LE sting. One of them has some thing that looked like a genital wart when I saw her last week so I opted for just a HJ. Just use our senses guys. I have had good luck with Michigan Ladies overall, just not these 2 ladies. The ML people need to dump them before they lose buziness. Nobody wants an obvious STD case working for them, come on!

Michboaterii
05-02-08, 10:08
Was out and about yesterday. Went to the Muskegon Heights area around 2:30 seen 1 WSW that was a 6 or 7 on the scale. Got the wave not once but twice. Seemed like business was pretty good for her. I like the color brown a little more so didn't stop. Went a few times around the block seen 2 BSW went around the block to talk with them but they were gone by the time I got around. They were definantly 7 to 8's on scale. Went around a couple more times and followed a fellow hobbist and found and picked up another BSW that was 8 easy. He was pretty obvious picking up....which I guess I don't have the kahunas to do that. Few minutes later seen LEO in the area and then all the ladies were gone. Still bunch of drug dealers out waving customers down. All in all I would said this was an awesome find thanks to ARP1966 report a few months ago.

Yesterday evening around 8 went down Division and seen absolutely nothing. The few I have seen in that area in past, could not even hold a candle to the ladies in Muskegon.

El Monger
05-02-08, 10:40
There are two girls working for michigan ladies at an incall appt off 44th Hidden Lakes-sisters I beleive. Be careful, lots of not so nice BF's around, bad attitudes and may be involved in an undercover LE sting. One of them has some thing that looked like a genital wart when I saw her last week so I opted for just a HJ. Just use our senses guys. I have had good luck with Michigan Ladies overall, just not these 2 ladies. The ML people need to dump them before they lose buziness. Nobody wants an obvious STD case working for them, come on!
Michigan ladies, enough said, non reputable agency.

Jd Boy 1975
05-02-08, 11:37
Hey monger,

Tell me your exp with Mich ladies. Got any you would rec. I had good luck until this exp I posted about. Of course they play the bait and switch, changes girl names every two days. But don't most of them? You got any rec in the GR area.

Michboaterii
05-02-08, 12:45
Anyone been to the Odyssey in Muskegon? Any action at all in there? Seems like I read somewhere on here that someone had some action but I can't find the post. In my travels yesterday went by there and look like a safe enough place and and place where some fun could be had.

El Monger
05-03-08, 09:04
Hey monger,

Tell me your exp with Mich ladies. Got any you would rec. I had good luck until this exp I posted about. Of course they play the bait and switch, changes girl names every two days. But don't most of them? You got any rec in the GR area.
Well to start with you could save your self some aggravation at those prices with some of the well reviewed ladies off some of the local escort sites.

Waxon1
05-03-08, 12:03
Ya pay a lot more for one of the girls off those boards and still get shit on for service. No thanks.


Well to start with you could save your self some aggravation at those prices with some of the well reviewed ladies off some of the local escort sites.

Gordo68
05-11-08, 00:13
5'11",185 according to KCJ. Older gal takes a good mugshot.

GrMojo
05-11-08, 02:11
Ya pay a lot more for one of the girls off those boards and still get shit on for service. No thanks.There are a few that offer great deals and great service, on the boards. It's much safer than going to the streets. The downside is that you'll need references to see many of them. Overall, I prefer the ladies I've met on the boards over the SW variety.

El Monger
05-20-08, 09:21
Found a 19 year old HSW last night Griggs and Buchannan area near park. 9 on the scale 5'1 95 lbs and oh so cute. Service was very good and she didnt miss a drop, well a little on her chin but she even cleaned that up with a smile. Wish I had more time for a notel will next time for sure! We have plans for this weekend again, maybe I can get some pics to share!
Looks like they may be migrating from the stroll. Oh and I do believe she was high on something, but was still accomodating.

RoadWarrior615
05-21-08, 16:13
Found a 19 year old HSW last night Griggs and Buchannan area near park. 9 on the scale 5'1 95 lbs and oh so cute. Service was very good and she didnt miss a drop, well a little on her chin but she even cleaned that up with a smile. Wish I had more time for a notel will next time for sure! We have plans for this weekend again, maybe I can get some pics to share!

Looks like they may be migrating from the stroll. Oh and I do believe she was high on something, but was still accomodating.Yea I know that girl.. She comes out every now and then. Says she has kids etc and lives in the area..She still calls me every now and then wanting me to take her out(no way)lol

Bulls Eye
05-25-08, 08:50
Didn't quite get why you say "No Way" for someone who seem to fit the ticket, is there more to it? If not share the intel (PM) HSW are not so easy to locate.

Dongr
05-25-08, 21:15
5'11",185 according to KCJ. Older gal takes a good mugshot.I was Dondetroit but I have a new e-mail and I'd forgotten my old password so now I'm Dongr. This girl used to be out 24/7 on Division between 28th and Burton. Anyone know Darlene I talked with her today and may partake tomorrow. She attractive 30 something slim 5 9 small breasted.

Don

Dongr
05-28-08, 20:12
Looks as if Holly was arrested again today. No report yet on the charges. I didn't know she was out from her last arrest. She looks good in her latest mug shot. Anyone getting a chance to date her go for it she's really nice and performs well.

Don

El Monger
05-29-08, 10:37
Looks as if Holly was arrested again today. No report yet on the charges. I didn't know she was out from her last arrest. She looks good in her latest mug shot. Anyone getting a chance to date her go for it she's really nice and performs well.

Don
Third offense, looks like you wont see her til fall, October 8.

Arp1966
06-15-08, 16:20
Cruised the stroll today between 1 &3 pm seen a young blond maby 19 or so and a little bit over weight, not fat just curvy, in front of Ken and Beas market (broadway and 8th) she gave me the nod, i circled a few times to check her out. She wouldnt leave that corner and i wasnt going to pick her up on that corner its way too busy. watched her get picked up twice (someone braver or stupider than me) so she was legit. I did see an ocassinal LE cruise the area so i wasnt going to take the risk of picking her up right out in the open. She looked new to the buisness so hopefully someone will explain to her how to get picked up.

Other than that all i saw was a few skanky BSWs.

El Monger
06-27-08, 13:20
Wow guys,
I have had some good luck as of late.
Young white girl 18-19 Dirty long Blonde 5'7" 120-125lbs, dont think a SW was at the gas station on the corner of 28th and Buchannan last night (Thursday the 26th) sitting next to building with her head down on her arms which were folded on her knees.
When she looked up I could tell she was just crying. I asked if she was okay and she said yes, that her Bf just kicked her out and wouldnt let her have any of her stuff` Blah, blah.
Well being the nice guy that I am :), I offered her a pop (pun intended) and a ride, she said she would take a water and a ride but had nowhere to go.
I said I had someplace, if she wanted and maybe she could figure things out there.
Well I struck gold, she was a little uneasy at first but when I checked into a hotel I think she knew what was going on, as she suddenly started to attempt to ravel herself back together.
When we got to the room like a dumbass I asked her if she wanted to call anyone and she started crying all over again, I guess the only person in the world that she had ( besides me, lol) was her mom who died in January and what her mother left her , her BF has already spent Blah, blah. But BINGO, the subject of money, I asked her if she would like to make some money and she knew for sure what was up right then, she got a little defensive and absolutely refused to take my money or do it for money, but she said if you want I will suck your dick now and maybe more later, well to say the least for the next 4.5 hrs I tore it up. It was so sweet and tight that I didnt think I would last at all, but as she got into it I kinda felt sorry for her and that made me last!
Well guys I still have her in the room, tore it up again before work this morning and will be back again tonight after work.
I will see if I can get some pics tonight!

Themage
06-27-08, 18:58
Wow guys,

I have had some good luck as of late.

Young white girl 18-19 Dirty long Blonde 5'7" 120-125lbs, dont think a SW was at the gas station on the corner of 28th and Buchannan last night (Thursday the 26th) sitting next to building with her head down on her arms which were folded on her knees.

When she looked up I could tell she was just crying. I asked if she was okay and she said yes, that her Bf just kicked her out and wouldnt let her have any of her stuff` Blah, blah.

Well being the nice guy that I am :), I offered her a pop (pun intended) and a ride, she said she would take a water and a ride but had nowhere to go.

I said I had someplace, if she wanted and maybe she could figure things out there.
Well I struck gold, she was a little uneasy at first but when I checked into a hotel I think she knew what was going on, as she suddenly started to attempt to ravel herself back together.

When we got to the room like a dumbass I asked her if she wanted to call anyone and she started crying all over again, I guess the only person in the world that she had ( besides me, lol) was her mom who died in January and what her mother left her , her BF has already spent Blah, blah. But BINGO, the subject of money, I asked her if she would like to make some money and she knew for sure what was up right then, she got a little defensive and absolutely refused to take my money or do it for money, but she said if you want I will suck your dick now and maybe more later, well to say the least for the next 4.5 hrs I tore it up. It was so sweet and tight that I didnt think I would last at all, but as she got into it I kinda felt sorry for her and that made me last!

Well guys I still have her in the room, tore it up again before work this morning and will be back again tonight after work.

I will see if I can get some pics tonight!Dude, I don't know what to say, you were lucky for sure, but I think I would have never done what you did, I really feel bad the girl, I mean I personally believe that. With all the sexual freedom we have in the states- if a woman wants to have sex for money I have no moral objection about it. But that is when the woman take an informed and voluntary decision, not when you get a girl from the street who just got treated really unfairly. Plus are you gonna pay here for everything you did for 4. 5 hrs, that would exceed a $1000 in the common price.

I am sorry but If I were you I would take that girl to the nearest police station where they can give her emergancy shelter and help her restablish her life, and get her stuff back, I wouldn't have touched her while she was in distress, instead I would propably help her and avoid taking advantage of her.

And guess what if you have done that you would have propably made a friend out of her and got a real chance and her being grateful sex, which would have been guilt free.

Anyway, the chance to do the honorable thing is not out yet, you still can apologize to her and take her to a church or even a hospital and they will be able to help her without getting you involved into any legal trouble. Remember that a girl from your own loved ones can be in that situation and how angry would you be at that point, if my sister decided to be a prositute I won't interfere with her decision but if somebody did that to her I will propably kill him.

Themage
06-27-08, 20:03
Some major hoppyist in grand rapids published this list on craigslist today, big round of appaulse for him

I also add
269-341-0565

This is the 'Katie list'. A warning that it is not all inclusive!

The name 'Katie' now represents any provider who 'upsells' and/or practices the
'cash and dash', etc. Call any provider you want, but do not even call any of these
numbers. Until you are sure of your SP, DON'T PAY UPFRONT!
616-477-1923
616-477-1564
616-293-6270
616-813-6031
616-284-7230
616-477-3564
616-773-5307
616-914-2996
616-916-4589
616-889-4264
616-843-5279
616-607-0753
616-607-0573
616-477-7258
231-206-7472
231-343-3615
231-457-7228
231-747-3040
231-855-3596
231-750-2998
231-750-9523
231-750-2990
231-750-6503
231-750-6008
248-303-9492
Please don't waste you r time or money!

And don't forget to flag them off CL!
-
616-485-7259 morgan is Riley Vixon- I've heard from others that
she's trouble. I simply don't bother.

616 916 7044 Angel-got most of my money back from her (not the girl in the
pic) after she got the money everything changed.

616-477-2031 MARIAH.. WATCH OUT FOR THIS ONE. Heard she was cash
and dash,and doesn't deliver what is promised.

El Monger
06-28-08, 08:42
Dude, I don't know what to say, you were lucky for sure, but I think I would have never done what you did, I really feel bad the girl, I mean I personally believe that. With all the sexual freedom we have in the states- if a woman wants to have sex for money I have no moral objection about it. But that is when the woman take an informed and voluntary decision, not when you get a girl from the street who just got treated really unfairly. Plus are you gonna pay here for everything you did for 4. 5 hrs, that would exceed a $1000 in the common price.

I am sorry but If I were you I would take that girl to the nearest police station where they can give her emergancy shelter and help her restablish her life, and get her stuff back, I wouldn't have touched her while she was in distress, instead I would propably help her and avoid taking advantage of her.

And guess what if you have done that you would have propably made a friend out of her and got a real chance and her being grateful sex, which would have been guilt free.

Anyway, the chance to do the honorable thing is not out yet, you still can apologize to her and take her to a church or even a hospital and they will be able to help her without getting you involved into any legal trouble. Remember that a girl from your own loved ones can be in that situation and how angry would you be at that point, if my sister decided to be a prositute I won't interfere with her decision but if somebody did that to her I will propably kill him.

A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I dont know what your issues are.
And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.
Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.
Oh and by the way, she is 20, 5' 8" 115 lbs and a sweetheart. Just found out she is bi and a swinger!

MWM
06-28-08, 11:45
Just treat her well and be kind to her. It sounds like she could use a good friend.


A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I dont know what your issues are.
And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.
Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.

BCramrod
06-28-08, 12:04
A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I don't know what your issues are.

And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.

Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free. You're doing nothing wrong. Certainly her fate could have been a lot worse had you not come along. She could have ended up dead in an alley.

El Monger
06-28-08, 12:22
Some major hoppyist in grand rapids published this list on craigslist today, big round of appaulse for him

I also add
269-341-0565

This is the 'Katie list'. A warning that it is not all inclusive!

The name 'Katie' now represents any provider who 'upsells' and/or practices the
'cash and dash', etc. Call any provider you want, but do not even call any of these
numbers. Until you are sure of your SP, DON'T PAY UPFRONT!
616-477-1923
616-477-1564
616-293-6270
616-813-6031
616-284-7230
616-477-3564
616-773-5307
616-914-2996
616-916-4589
616-889-4264
616-843-5279
616-607-0753
616-607-0573
616-477-7258
231-206-7472
231-343-3615
231-457-7228
231-747-3040
231-855-3596
231-750-2998
231-750-9523
231-750-2990
231-750-6503
231-750-6008
248-303-9492
Please don't waste you r time or money!

And don't forget to flag them off CL!
-
616-485-7259 morgan is Riley Vixon- I've heard from others that
she's trouble. I simply don't bother.

616 916 7044 Angel-got most of my money back from her (not the girl in the
pic) after she got the money everything changed.

616-477-2031 MARIAH.. WATCH OUT FOR THIS ONE. Heard she was cash
and dash,and doesn't deliver what is promised.


What do you mean by "major hobbiest" on CL? It is a joke. It is anonymous and most of the things he refers to are second hand, hearsay upon hearsay. Sounds like either the competition or a stalker or maybe someone who has been ripped off. Or possibly its you on the moral right stinking up the place. Do you have anything to contribute? (oh BTW there is a section for CL reviews.)
And everything on CL is getting flagged as fast as it goes up, and has been for months now.
Im sorry, I dont mean to flame and I really dont want to be confrontational so in the spirit of the site I will logg of now and refrain, I see you are new & I look forward to your contributions to the site.

Barond
06-28-08, 15:50
Finding young ladies in distress is not that uncommon. Some mongers cruise around specifically looking for a part timer or a gal down on her luck financially. I've always dreamed of a young one getting kicked out by her parents and me picking her up. Hasn't happened yet tho.

Sounds like you found a great little hottie. As long as you don't turn into her pimp and start forcin her to turn tricks I don't see anything morally wrong with it -- provided she is 18. Sounds like a good short term situation for the both of you.

Themage
06-28-08, 20:16
Ok I am sorry but your first post about the experience with this girl made it sound like you are the one who kinda forced her into this situation , but if she is the one who offered, then have all the fun you want. I have no objections.

On the other hand, the post from craigs list, I believe is legitimate at least some of the number he mentioned were for people who repeatedly mugged or cheated other people as reported here and in other places, I myself got burned a couple of time. to my luck I wasn't mugged yet, but just over the month, my last three succesuve attempts ended up with...

a) one girl gave me an appointment in grandrapids and made me drive their, then when I arrrived therir she told me she had to change the location and directed me into a 2nd place then when I arrived at the 2nd place she told me that she is sorry because she gave me the wrong address and she gave me the "correct" address and when I arrived their she stopped answering her phone all together and I had to return after an hour of driving all over grand rapids, when I looked up the number witha wider search i found that this number did this to 2 other people in the same day.

b) the next time was a girl in lansing, gave me an appointment and all the way up till the last ten minutes she answered her phone and as soon as I arrived she never called back, and then found out that she did the same for another customer the same day

c) the third time I decided to have an outcall to my own place instead of driving to somebody, called a girl she said she will come in 20 minutes, then I waited and waited and she never showed up, and two hours later she posted another ad, I tried to call he but she kept hanging up on me.

That is why I am dead serious about cleaning Craigslist, from those scammers. I had wonderful expreineces in other plcaes with the first girl I call. but here is west michigin the situation is much worse

Dongr
06-28-08, 21:30
A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I don't know what your issues are.

And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.

Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.

Oh and by the way, she is 20, 5' 8" 115 lbs and a sweetheart. Just found out she is bi and a swinger! Enjoy her as long as you can. Talk about good luck!

Don

El Monger
06-29-08, 07:33
Ok I am sorry but your first post about the experience with this girl made it sound like you are the one who kinda forced her into this situation , but if she is the one who offered, then have all the fun you want. I have no objections.

On the other hand, the post from craigs list, I believe is legitimate at least some of the number he mentioned were for people who repeatedly mugged or cheated other people as reported here and in other places, I myself got burned a couple of time. to my luck I wasn't mugged yet, but just over the month, my last three succesuve attempts ended up with...

a) one girl gave me an appointment in grandrapids and made me drive their, then when I arrrived therir she told me she had to change the location and directed me into a 2nd place then when I arrived at the 2nd place she told me that she is sorry because she gave me the wrong address and she gave me the "correct" address and when I arrived their she stopped answering her phone all together and I had to return after an hour of driving all over grand rapids, when I looked up the number witha wider search i found that this number did this to 2 other people in the same day.

b) the next time was a girl in lansing, gave me an appointment and all the way up till the last ten minutes she answered her phone and as soon as I arrived she never called back, and then found out that she did the same for another customer the same day

c) the third time I decided to have an outcall to my own place instead of driving to somebody, called a girl she said she will come in 20 minutes, then I waited and waited and she never showed up, and two hours later she posted another ad, I tried to call he but she kept hanging up on me.

That is why I am dead serious about cleaning Craigslist, from those scammers. I had wonderful expreineces in other plcaes with the first girl I call. but here is west michigin the situation is much worse
Okay Themage,
post the experiences that you experience, that will give you credibility.

El Monger
06-29-08, 07:35
Enjoy her as long as you can. Talk about good luck!

Don
Hello Don, I see the name change. Don is a senior member and has shared with me. Thanks Don, its been awhile.