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I know this report is like 10 days old, but I am so damn embarassed about my actions that it has taken me this long to write a posting.
I just got Satellite Radio installed in my car (i recommend Sirius) and needed an excuse to soend some time listening to my new 120 channels of digital sound. So, I left my house around 10:30 pm and headed downtown.
Boston - Chinatown:
Almost immediately upon hitting downtown I see two uber-hot SWs. THe first one was opposite the Store 24 on Tremont. This girl was smoking hot, but by the time I looped around she was gone and I never saw her again. I am sure she was working because - aww hell, you know how I know.
As I looped around that area, there was another very hot girl standing on the corner of Isabella and Arlington.
Let's take a minute and review the tell tale signs of a police decoy. What are the two sure signs that a given SW is actually undercover LE? #1 - she is too good looking for the street scene. #2 she stands in one place and doesnt walk around. This girl satisfied both criteria, so I just couldnt bring myself to bite depsite 4 laps - I am sure she was annoyed.
Later on, I saw a very cute WSW in a white puffy jacket and headband walked the little park in front of the park plaza. She was talking on a cellphone, but gave me the nod on my second lap. As far as I was concerned, she also met criteria #1 and #2 so I kept cruising.
After cruising for over an hour and seeing all this hot girls disappear, I decided that i needed to pick up the next girl no matter how skanky. Boy did i regret that. I picked up and BSW on Marginal near the Store 24. She was skinny, but older. I think her name was Maria. As we drive to my preferred parking area she mentioned that she had a grandson -uggh
She agreed to do BBBJ, but only upon my promise not to cum in her mouth. I told her I only had $30 -this was a lie, sue me. She was terrible. She would suck it just long enough to get me close and then she would stop. She kept squeezing the shaft which had the effect of stopping me from cumming rather than helping me. No amount of instruction could direct her properly. I finally gave up and drove her back to the Mobil station. She wanted me to wait for her and was pissed that I wouldnt. Why would I wait for an SW who couldnt make me cum?
Then I decided to drive to...
Chelsea - Produce Area.
I arrived somewhere between midnight and 1 am and had only $20 on me. I drive up and down the PA an saw nothing. Then I switched to Chelsea proper and saw no one. When I moved back to the PA, there were two girls working just past King Arthurs. One was blonde hispanic dressed in light brown leather. The other was a black girl who looked asian. She had a black waist length jacket with a big collar. She also had a black eye. Both girls were very attractive. The blonde hispanic got into my car and exited about .00005 seconds later when she informed me that a BJ was $70. I didnt bother getting the other girl in my car because I knew it would be the same.
Before retiring for the evening, I gave downtown Chelsea one more shot. It was there - at around 2 am or so, that I scrapped the bottom of the barrell. I picked up a SW near the police station - she was by far the oldest ugliest skankiest girl that has ever been in my car. Her name has been blocked from my memory by post traumatic stress disorder. She was black and spoke very little english - dominican i assume. She tried to give me a BBBJ but her ability was only slightly better than Maria and I was horrified to have my dick in her mouth. I had to end it before climax.
Then I headed for home. Sometimes this hobby is brutal.
Phat Bastard
01-03-06, 02:07
That's strange, I've been doing laps of that area (in Boston) nearly every night for a month straight and haven't seen anyone even halfway decent looking. I had actually PM'd someone just this morning saying the cops had swept the streets cleaner of SW's than they've been since the city was founded.
Was that black/asian girl tall? Like around 5'10" or 6' with a beautiful smile. I know a girl who fits that description. Too bad you didn't pick her up first, she's worth it:(
Night Cruiser
01-03-06, 02:51
LD,
Man, you must have been hornier than a chihuahua in heat! Sometimes you gotta just call it a night.
I took the CT stroll for a few hours until about 11 ish (which was right when I saw a HOT WSW get picked up) but heads up fella's, there are camera's. I noticed one on oak street as well, mounted on a building.
They are all over down there. So needless to say I got a little freaked out and went to try the chelsea run for the first time at night.
Pretty dead. I saw one girl up by KA deffinite Pro but also a cop sitting in the D&D parking lot about 100 feet from her? then saw of few more amatures around the hotel stanley area and up near the cemitary
Nothing good though.
Ended up going home blue.
Saw one dude grab two chicks in no time though so I guess it just depends on how pickey you are!
Happy huntin
Yellow Fever
01-03-06, 17:24
Hey LD your a scream. Please was she as good as Marie-Eve? LOL ROFLMAO
FWIW, I saw in the news where Chelsea downtown was loaded to the gills with cameras, too. I don't know about the produce area, side neighborhoods, etc. Anyone?
River Phoenix
01-04-06, 01:48
Sunday night. Got bbbjwcim for donation of 30. WSW. probably 25. crackhead. good service. I would repeat. Only part of Dot I go to now is near Store 24.
Boston Guy
01-04-06, 03:38
FWIW, I saw in the news where Chelsea downtown was loaded to the gills with cameras, too. I don't know about the produce area, side neighborhoods, etc. Anyone?
Here's the original Globe article. There might be updates since then on the location of the cameras.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/06/04/chelsea_to_mount_security_cameras_citywide/
Boston Guy 57
01-04-06, 10:51
I can't speak for the produce area in general but I know that KA has their own cameras that give them a bird's-eye view of the surrounding area. I have no reason to beleive they are out to hurt any mongers, just protecting themselves.
Boston Monger
01-04-06, 10:58
I did that once on the 495 track and settled for the biggest skankiest WSW in Lowell. I think it's just you have to score, regardless of what it looks like.
No kidding,
I actually looked around chelsea when I was there and didn't see any.
I have a feeling there are alot more than the 5 I know about in CT, I think those 5 are abnormally large to get the point across to fools like me who just keep coming back LOL.
Who knows, maybe the po po's have big hearts and are just looking the other way. I've seen girl after girl picked up in front of those things and nothing has come of it. (I don't think.) I've still yet to do it in front of a camera. Call me paranoid. I have been caught twice now by the po po's with girls and both times they let me go. I have a feeling its because was fairly young at the time. Probobly wouldn't have as much luck now adays.
Happy New year to everyone. I was able to cruise last nite and saw a WSW with red hair, medium length and kinda of wavy. She was rolling a small suitcase behind her,did any of you guys pick her up? I only saw a partial view of her face it did'nt look bad. She was near chinatown by the Registry. Went through the usaual areas between 10:30-11PM, did'nt see anything.
No activity in the CT,Bay Village, Park Plaza area. Must of been a very slow nite. Anyone else have better results?
Hey LD your a scream. Please was she as good as Marie-Eve? LOL ROFLMAO
How dare you mention the name of the hottest wildest escort in North America in the same conversation as the skanks i wrote about.
Things are so bad that I am actually considering a weekend in Montreal even though i never go up in the winter and i have no friggin money.
Luvdozer;
Hang in there. We've all been there, brother. I've had a string of bad sex with excellent looking strippers as of recent. I can wholeheartedly tell you that just because she looks hot doesn't mean she can give good head or tail.
Its time like these I am thankful for storing a few nuts before winter. You know...the ones that you know will give a good head on demand to bide you time till your next excursion for good times.
Boston Guy 57
01-05-06, 12:45
Yup, it's amazing, when they are really gorgeous we want to beleive the sex will be amazing. Think about it. In the club the best looking dancers seldom give the best lap dances. I'll take a 7 that knows what to do over a 10 who's too busy looking in the mirror to pay attention to me.
Undercover Bro
01-05-06, 21:01
Bad stripper sex with hot strippers? . Man if it don't hurt so much because it's the truth. And I thought I was the only one. I used to do the street scene a lot but lately I've been sticking to strippers "take-out" because things have been so dead around here and well, I just like it better. But unfortunately, my take-out options are drying up too. Seems like all the good ones are getting pregnant these days. I know you guys were hatin' on the Slipper not too long ago, but it's always been good to this brotha. Until now that is. Oh well.
No doubt this will jinx my streak of luck, but I have had a lot of success lately on Magazine from a block or two above Mass Ave to a few blocks below Dudley. All BSWs but all young and 8+ on the scale apropos of that part of town. $30 for BBBJTICM seems to be rate. I'm sure MeatMan would get them for $20, but as a middle aged white guy I don't argue with a good thing. And this is indeed near the area I was nearly popped a couple of months back, but I have a much better lay of the land now and there are nearly an unlimited number of dark nooks and crannies in which to park.
Undercover Bro
01-05-06, 21:46
Speaking of the great one, where has he been? Tell him his proteges need him!
Anyone seen these chicks who post twice a day in the therapeutic services on CL? Number is 857-221-0195. I tried to see them last Friday and they were calling me and I was calling them, but none of them spoke English well enough to tell me what GD apartment number they were! They sounded damn cute though. Really sexy baby talk voices and really seductive, not the usual all business attitude. Would love to actually try them out.
LoveLatin05
01-07-06, 16:57
Been missing a lot of filedgoals hunting lately...hopefully 2night the pats wont. GOOOO PATTSSSS
Stressed Out
01-08-06, 00:38
This article was in the Partiot Ledger......the Maria they are talking to in Kathleen fron Quincy. Have seen her..definitely her right up to the 'don't touch' me comment. Also the place in Quincy they seem to be talking about is probably 964 Hancock which was busted a week or 2 ago but not publicized.....SO
Selling SEX in the suburbs: Underground prostitution network thrives on South Shore
By KAREN ESCHBACHER
The Patriot Ledger
In many ways, Maria is a typical 39-year-old. She rents an apartment in Quincy, regularly says ‘‘hello’’ to her neighbors and has a decent-paying job. There’s one big difference. Maria is a prostitute who sells herself to South Shore men for $175 an hour.
‘‘They’re mostly married,’’ she says of her clients. ‘‘They’re happily married. Well, I don’t know how happily married they are if they’re seeing me.’’
Maria, who asked that her name be changed to shield her identity, is part of a thriving underground prostitution network on the South Shore that goes largely unnoticed by most suburbanites.
Rather than walk the streets, the prostitutes sell their services online or in newspapers, sometimes under the guise of escorts or masseuses. And they are sought out by johns living everywhere from Quincy to Plymouth.
While the world’s oldest profession has always been practiced on the South Shore, modern technology is serving to facilitate the sale of sex in the suburbs, police say.
‘‘The Internet makes it more accessible,’’ said Braintree Deputy Police Chief Russell Jenkins, whose department busted five alleged prostitutes last fall when undercover cops soliciting them on the Internet. ‘‘I think it’s very common.’’
The Braintree sting notwithstanding, there are typically a handful or fewer arrests for prostitution on the South Shore in an given year. But those small numbers belie the extent of the underground sex market.
On craigslist.com, the popular online classified site, there were 180 postings in the ‘‘erotic’’ section from Dec. 26 to Jan. 5 by people who identified themselves as living on the South Shore or willing to visit. While not all of them involve the sale of sex (some are just offering free, kinky fun), the majority include hourly rates or request financial ‘‘donations.’’
Some include very graphic pictures of women in suggestive poses. Even those without images are enough to make nearly anyone blush.
Take the 49-year-old man in the Braintree/Weymouth area who posted this message: ‘‘Any girls over 20 looking for fast $$$. I am ready now. Car date or otherwise. You know when you just have to have it. That’s me right now.’’
Then there’s Nancy, from the Weymouth area, who promises to help clients ‘‘take a trip to heaven.’’ For convenience, she offers rates for both an hour or half-hour session.
One ‘‘voluptuous college coed’’ from the South Shore claims to need help with the rent this month. She was offering an hour of full-service fantasy fulfillment for ‘‘a donation of 300.’’
Many johns are looking for one-time satisfaction. Others, like the Hanover man, want something more long-term. He wrote: ‘‘MM (married man) seeks redhead 18 to 40 (no dye jobs girls) for a regular thing $$$$$$$ non pro would be nice, we can help each other out and have fun too.’’
Prostitutes both travel to their clients and make their johns come to them. Some rendezvous at local motels.
Maria, the Quincy prostitute who turned her first trick at 20, does all of her business out of her apartment. She advertises on craigslist and in the Boston Phoenix, though neither ad explicitly says she will have sex for money.
When guys call, she makes sure she is comfortable with them before giving out her address. Unlike some hookers, there are limits to what she’ll do.
‘‘You only get a massage and sex,’’ she said. ‘‘You won’t get to touch me. No, you can’t touch me. You cannot.’’
Maria said she isn’t too worried about the police. ‘‘They’re looking for hookers who do drugs’’ - and she doesn’t.
In fact, the odds of a prostitute landing a work-related criminal record appear slim.
Massachusetts Sentencing Commission records show that 369 people were convicted of prostitution from July 1, 2003, to June 30, 2004. Some others were not counted if they were convicted of a more serious offense at the same time.
In recent years on the South Shore, only a few busts have made headlines.
State Police arrested a Duxbury woman in October after she engaged in a sex act with an elderly man in a Plymouth parking lot for $20.
In 2004, Quincy police broke up an alleged brothel masquerading as a massage parlor across from Quincy High School.
In general, police said it’s hard to make arrests. Since johns are unlikely to snitch on hookers, the best bet is to send in undercover cops, a labor-intensive proposition.
In Braintree, officers launched last fall’s sting to send the message that prostitutes aren’t welcome, Deputy Chief Jenkins said.
Quincy Police Chief Robert Crowley said his department chases down whatever tips it gets. Police recently shut down a location where prostitution was taking place but didn’t press charges because they obtained ‘‘considerable intelligence information regarding other crimes,’’ Crowley said.
‘‘If we do get information on any location we will actively pursue it,’’ he said. ‘‘We don’t want prostitution in the city, we don’t want massage parlors that aren’t licensed that may front for prostitution.’’
Police in some towns said they don’t perceive prostitution as a problem.
Whitman Acting Police Chief Raymond Nelson said some hookers used to do business in town, but that problem disappeared a few years ago when condominiums replaced a motel on Route 18 that was frequented by prostitutes and johns.
Plymouth police Capt. Michael Botieri said his town has seen ‘‘sporadic’’ prostitution problems but ‘‘nothing major.’’ He did not, however, know about craigslist. As for Maria, she said most people couldn’t begin to imagine what can be bought and sold on the South
Dakota Guy
01-08-06, 00:42
I've been out in the Boston area 3 times in the past year for business. I've had some action in the Hampden St and Blue Hills area. I will probably be back in March but I'm not sure what or where the Produce area is. Can someone help me out with that?
When asked which, 86% of male police officers said ,"DOUGHNUTS"
69% of female officers asked "What's sex?'
Boston Monger
01-09-06, 10:35
Dead. That is all.
Phat Bastard
01-09-06, 11:06
From todays Boston Herald.
"A pair of suspected pimps literally lost their marbles yesterday when cops raided the East Boston brothel where they handed out the toy orbs to johns who used them as chits for sex acts, police said.
A Boston police officer posing as a customer allegedly paid Antonio Sepulveda, 46, of East Boston, an undisclosed amount for sex. Sepulveda recorded the transaction in the kitchen of the Bennington Street apartment and handed a marble to the undercover cop, instructing him to give it to a girl in a bedroom for sex, police said.
“In an effort to improve the quality of life of the residents around 247 Bennington St., detectives created Operation Dial-a-Date,” Boston Police Department spokesman John Boyle said, later adding, “Operation Dial-a-Date will be an ongoing operation.”
After the undercover officer got his marble, cops rushed the apartment around 11 a.m. and arrested four people. Police also seized cash, papers and the marbles.
Sepulveda and Luis Gimenez, 41, of East Boston, were charged with support from a prostitute’s earnings. Police also arrested Denyanira Soto-Pichardo, 23, of West New York, N.J., and Pablo Rodriguez, 20, of East Boston. Both were charged with sex for a fee.
All four suspects were scheduled to be arraigned this morning in the East Boston District Court."
I'm sure these asshole rocket scientists brought this shit on themselves through their own stupidity such as running a brothel out of an apartment in a three decker in a tightly packed and congested neighborhood across the street from what looks like a playground or a school.
Even still, this “Operation Dial-a-Date" looks like they're switching to going after outcall services now that the streets are cleared of SW's.
Be careful out there.
So last Friday I cruised BHA and Magazine for a while. Saw one kinda cute BSW but I got the feeling she was an older crack head. After a while I said screw it and headed into to CT from about 9-1 and only saw one BSW the entire time and i'm pretty sure she was a crack head as well. on they way home to the north shore i stopped in to do the roast beef run.
NOTHING!
So basically my whole night consisted of:
NOTHING
NOTHING
AAAND NOTHING LOL
Come on pimps, I know your out there, lets get the girls out on the streets shall we {:o)
Happy huntin fellas
And lets keep the reports coming.
That magazine report was a bit of new info to me.
Thanks much.
Most of these women are not out there full-time (save for full-blown crack wh*res) and have gov't checks early in the month. Things will pick up later in the month. Friday is also one of the worst nights in my experience. Seems counterintuitive, but I have always had more success midweek.
Best Tx Monger
01-14-06, 13:00
Thread Starter.
Thought that New Thread was appropriate for the New Year !
-007
Best Tx Monger
01-14-06, 13:03
Thought that It would be to appropriate to start a New Thread for 2006.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=410571#post410571
-007
LoveLatin05
01-16-06, 10:55
Went down magazine st, advise from one of the member here. Tons of LE around and just 1 crack girl. All the streets around the area looks like its an alley. Might be back, if im around the area.
Why do you think LE decoy's are good looking? They only good looking girls in PD's are on TV. If you want to spot a LE Decoy look for the fugly minority and the team of cops that's going to be around someplace. But you are right in that decoys don't move.
I know the girl in the puffy white jacket, she's no decoy. ;)
I know this report is like 10 days old, but I am so damn embarassed about my actions that it has taken me this long to write a posting.
I just got Satellite Radio installed in my car (i recommend Sirius) and needed an excuse to soend some time listening to my new 120 channels of digital sound. So, I left my house around 10:30 pm and headed downtown.
Boston - Chinatown:
Almost immediately upon hitting downtown I see two uber-hot SWs. THe first one was opposite the Store 24 on Tremont. This girl was smoking hot, but by the time I looped around she was gone and I never saw her again. I am sure she was working because - aww hell, you know how I know.
As I looped around that area, there was another very hot girl standing on the corner of Isabella and Arlington.
Let's take a minute and review the tell tale signs of a police decoy. What are the two sure signs that a given SW is actually undercover LE? #1 - she is too good looking for the street scene. #2 she stands in one place and doesnt walk around. This girl satisfied both criteria, so I just couldnt bring myself to bite depsite 4 laps - I am sure she was annoyed.
Later on, I saw a very cute WSW in a white puffy jacket and headband walked the little park in front of the park plaza. She was talking on a cellphone, but gave me the nod on my second lap. As far as I was concerned, she also met criteria #1 and #2 so I kept cruising.
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Then I headed for home. Sometimes this hobby is brutal.
Since I have never been busted by a decoy, I am not speaking from personal experience. However, I have read in this and other forums advice to this effect. I think that the idea here is that some areas only have SWs who are skanky and cracked out - so any normal healthy female looks good by comparison. I also think that when a PD does have an attractive looking female cop they are love to send her out on decoy duty because she becomes the flame to the mongers' moth.
#1 Never talk about sex , price or any other matter, out of the car.
#2 LE will never get in the car
#3 Roll window down and ask do you need a ride?
IF she ask what are you looking for, keep driving
Never say another word
Remember for every John they arrest, they are rewarded with a doughnut.
My dog will do tricks for dog cookies, LE will bust balls for doughnuts
Although I agree that a decoy will usually not go into a car, I would hesitate to say that they NEVER go into a car. If you think the girl is LE, listen to that inner voice. Do not count yourelf safe just becuase a girl gets into your car-- especially in dense urban areas.
That's only true on re runs of TJ Hooker, NYPD Blue, et al. If you want to turn to some semi truth in TV then look at that white trash docu drama 'COPS'; the show were the US Constitution is generally used as toliet paper for 30 minutes. The decoys are generally fugly or plain at best.
I've seen BPD decoys and they are generally fugly minorities. BPD generally doesn't even bother to run Operation Squeeze anymore because they have had a very tight control over SW's for the last 3-4 years. But they still do it to get that splash in the Globe or the Herald.
BTW - In case anyone doesn't know, cops do lie. So you think you may be playing it cute when you roll up on her and say, hey need a ride someplace. But that may not be what it says in your arrest report.
Since I have never been busted by a decoy, I am not speaking from personal experience. However, I have read in this and other forums advice to this effect. I think that the idea here is that some areas only have SWs who are skanky and cracked out - so any normal healthy female looks good by comparison. I also think that when a PD does have an attractive looking female cop they are love to send her out on decoy duty because she becomes the flame to the mongers' moth.
Member #4862
01-18-06, 10:25
That's only true on re runs of TJ Hooker, NYPD Blue, et al. If you want to turn to some semi truth in TV then look at that white trash docu drama 'COPS'; the show were the US Constitution is generally used as toliet paper for 30 minutes. The decoys are generally fugly or plain at best.
I've seen BPD decoys and they are generally fugly minorities. BPD generally doesn't even bother to run Operation Squeeze anymore because they have had a very tight control over SW's for the last 3-4 years. But they still do it to get that splash in the Globe or the Herald.
BTW - In case anyone doesn't know, cops do lie. So you think you may be playing it cute when you roll up on her and say, hey need a ride someplace. But that may not be what it says in your arrest report.
This is a pretty broad, if not, quite inaccurate statement. It's doubtful that you or anyone on else on the board truly understand Constitutional rights vis à vie police powers.
Cops lie, so do fireman, teachers, doctors, lawyers, notaries public, or anyone else who's human. Would you think that nabbing you would be worth the risk of a cop committing perjury and losing their job? Get off your high horse. Generally, when prostitution cases go before a jury the evidence that you or anyone else solicited an undercover police officer typically is a tape of your voice making an offer for sex for money. Police testimony on a misdemeanor case like this without a tape will usually get thrown out for a first offense.
You either have very little experience dealing with the police-court system or you live in a place called Utopia. I live in a place called Boston, it's on the northeast coast of the US. Where police officers (a minority) are involved in the drug trade, gangs, prostitution and other things people like you wouldn't believe police officers would be involved in. There is actually a term for police officers lying on the stand, it's call testilying. To think that a civil servant, union protected police officer is worried about losing his job for lying on the stand makes you sound so naive I don't even know where to begin to address it. Next you'll be telling me the court system doesn't favor the police officer. Or that a couple of decades ago the FBI in Boston wasn't protecting murdering gangsters.
Instead of it being called 'Cops' it should be called 'Violation of Due Process'. The court system (which is part of the same system) and the general public looks the other way because they fear social anarchy. Not to further cloud the subject. But the long and short of police powers in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts over that of an ordinary citizen is that a police officer can arrest someone based on the testimony of another person, thats it.
Excuse my harsh words, but as far as the court system works in reality you are clueless - there is nothing else that can be said on that subject. Instead of getting your information from Cop and Legal TV shows go sit your ass down in an actual court room.
As far as you saying that no one on this board truly understands the Constitution of the United States, well, it is quite the short document and easy to understand. However a mix of nine people over various times have tried to put their own spin on it.
This is a pretty broad, if not, quite inaccurate statement. It's doubtful that you or anyone on else on the board truly understand Constitutional rights vis à vie police powers.
Cops lie, so do fireman, teachers, doctors, lawyers, notaries public, or anyone else who's human. Would you think that nabbing you would be worth the risk of a cop committing perjury and losing their job? Get off your high horse. Generally, when prostitution cases go before a jury the evidence that you or anyone else solicited an undercover police officer typically is a tape of your voice making an offer for sex for money. Police testimony on a misdemeanor case like this without a tape will usually get thrown out for a first offense.
Boobi Fett
01-18-06, 18:55
You either have very little experience dealing with the police-court system or you live in a place called Utopia. I live in a place called Boston, it's on the northeast coast of the US. Where police officers (a minority) are involved in the drug trade, gangs, prostitution and other things people like you wouldn't believe police officers would be involved in. There is actually a term for police officers lying on the stand, it's call testilying. To think that a civil servant, union protected police officer is worried about losing his job for lying on the stand makes you sound so naive I don't even know where to begin to address it. Next you'll be telling me the court system doesn't favor the police officer.
Instead of it being called 'Cops' it should be called 'Violation of Due Process'. The court system (which is part of the same system) and the general public looks the other way because they fear social anarchy. Not to further cloud the subject. But the long and short of police powers in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts over that of an ordinary citizen is that a police officer can arrest someone based on the testimony of another person, thats it.
Excuse my harsh words, but as far as the court system works in reality you are clueless - there is nothing else that can be said on that subject. Instead of getting your information from Cop and Legal TV shows go sit your ass down in an actual court room.
As far as you saying that no one on this board truly understands the Constitution of the United States, well, it is quite the short document and easy to understand. However a mix of nine people over various times have tried to put their own spin on it.Cruiser I think you are being a little harsh here but I believe you are mostly right. I was pulled in on a sting during my rookie mongering year and if it was not for a great lawyer I would have been convicted. While the officer can get on the stand and lie most of the time they are taping you so they don't need to. Without a tape most major cities will not even take the time to try to prosecute you. Since any good lawyer will get you out of it. However, that does not mean a cop will not lie to pull you over with a girl and attempt to get useful testimony from you.
I've been pulled over with a girl in my car and my only suggestion is to say as little as possible without being an outright ass. If he wants to take you in at that point he will. Most of the time he is looking for drugs, will haul the girl away and tell you to get the f out of dodge.
As far as the rules TTBearHug was talking about the first one is good but the other 2 frankly suck. Sorry TTBearHug I'm not trying to be an ass but the last two are generally good advice. Decoys can get into your car. Some agencies will allow if for the safety of their officers but some can. Getting into your car is only part of the way there. I'm not a lawyer and maybe MA has a specific law about it but I know for a fact that some places girls will get in your car. One place in particular is SanFran.
I also never offer a girl a ride since most cities have an ordinance about picking people up that you do not know. Here in Chicago it is for unauthorized cabbies. So even if you go up to an undercover and ask her if she needs a ride you can be pulled over.
I try to pull over and pretend to hit on the girl. It seems to work. I have actually gotten out of two good stings that way. The girls seemed utterly shocked and did not know what to say. Most of the working girls I see actually giggle and hop right in. Keeping the decoys on their toes can help that spidey sense kick in.
All in all what we do has an inherent risk to it. Of course that is why most of us go out on the hunt in the first place. If you do not feel right then always say no. Most stings are not well setup. The cruisers needs to be close. The girls seldom move too far. And they usually want to talk money outside of the car. But these are not sure things. Don't forget some of us have a life changing event and go to the other side. Some of them are hobbyists too. As they say "It takes a thief to catch a thief".
Stay safe and Happy Hunting.
Da Fett
Good advice.
The cops and the DA's generally count on the john falling apart like a house of cards and either hanging himself or accepting a poor plea bargin. Be polite, be smart and lawyer up if it gets to that point. It will cost, but as OJ knows a good lawyer will get you out of anything.
I haven't had a BJ in my life that was worth getting arrest for. If it doesn't feel right or she is taking to long to get in the car pass. There will be another night and another girl.
Cruiser I think you are being a little harsh here but I believe you are mostly right. I was pulled in on a sting during my rookie mongering year and if it was not for a great lawyer I would have been convicted. While the officer can get on the stand and lie most of the time they are taping you so they don't need to. Without a tape most major cities will not even take the time to try to prosecute you. Since any good lawyer will get you out of it. However, that does not mean a cop will not lie to pull you over with a girl and attempt to get useful testimony from you.
I've been pulled over with a girl in my car and my only suggestion is to say as little as possible without being an outright ass. If he wants to take you in at that point he will. Most of the time he is looking for drugs, will haul the girl away and tell you to get the f out of dodge.
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Stay safe and Happy Hunting.
Da Fett
Phat Bastard
01-19-06, 09:39
There's a lot of advice and tips to give on how to avoid/spot/not pick up a decoy but here's one way that works regardless of the individual laws of a particular state.
Don't pick her up until you see someone else pick her up first. If he picks her up, drives away, does his business, then brings her back at least 20 minutes later without any police activity she's not a decoy. If you still have doubts, wait until you see her get picked up and returned by several different guys.
If someone other than the guy who picked her up brings her back or she comes back in a cab or walks back stay away, at least until you do some more recon. She may not be a cop but there's a reason he didn't bring her back and that's usually a customer service issue, like girls who stop before you "arrive" and demand more money to finish you off, although sometimes it's because he's a piece of shit fucking pussy who got violent with her or tried to cheat her.
Boston Monger
01-19-06, 10:48
You can argue courts. You can argue cops. But basically it comes down to Karma. That's right gentlemen. It's what the cop feels like at the moment. He could care less about a "conviction". He knows by merely picking you up, he's given you a major hassle, if not life changing experience. Who needs a conviction when will you already be convicted by your family? Face it, the court fine is merely an embarresment. Hey, if I was single, I would just laugh.
Now down to brass tacks. Say nothing, be polite and coopertive. Sounds contradictory? Well it should. Because a million thoughts will be going through your head but the ultimate motive is to drive away. Do what it takes SHORT OF ADMITTING ANYTHING. Even breaking down and crying is OK.
That is advice if you are caught. But with a little common sense you shouldn't get caught. You can sense when things aren't right. And don't believe that decoys are all fugly. Two years ago I saw decoy in Lawrence that would make your head spin.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=197248&postcount=295
Basically good luck. You know the risks. You know the consequences.
Member #4862
01-19-06, 15:17
You either have very little experience dealing with the police-court system or you live in a place called Utopia.
I'm willing to bet I have much more litigation experience than you and The Commonwealth is far from utopia. One of us watches 'Cops' too much, and it isn't me. Your own comments regarding your observations on television of what you believe are "violations of due process" are humorus at best.
Since the United States Constitution is so simple to you, might want to study the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts since it is, generally, what the U.S. Constitution was modeled after. But you already knew that.
Shall I assume you will be giving everyone a lesson on the Massachusetts Rules of Criminal Procedure? Then again, how would you know about it if it isn't covered on 'Cops'?
Thats one of the most useless posts I've seen on these board, SF. No need for a pissing match about who's been through the court system more, or an episode of COPS? Come on!
Lots of great advice and thoughts have been said...not always in the best way, but who gives a shit.
One thing I am curious about...would anyone be willing to post about their LEO encounter and actually dealing with the legal system and shit?
LoveLatin05
01-19-06, 21:08
I'm pretty sure I remember all the regulars, lynntrash, meatman, the other MM that I cant remember right now, Senior (RIP) and a few of the other regulars (back in the haydays), have talked about their "close" encounter before. BUT to save you some time, I'll reminisce the day I almost piss, shitted in my pants. I'll keep it short.
I picked up a BSW near by store 24 in CT back than this was one of my 1st time hunting and in the tail end of SW in CT. Anyways I took her near by southstation, an alley. While she was giving me a BJ a LE came out from "no where" blocks me from the exit point of the alley.
He gets out, walks over (at this point, I'm like ooooo shittt . What do we do, what do we do (remember I was young and one of the 1st time hunting) taps on my windows and ask what we were doing. I told him just chilling, ask whos car I was driving (told him my uncles, which it was). Anyways to wrap this up, he tells the BSW to get out, and go her way, gave me a tough lash, and tells me if he ever catches me down here again, I wont be so lucky. 5 years later I'm still hunting. Of course not as much. (not because I don't want too, street action have dried) and not as much in CT anymore. Sorry, if you guys didn’t understand parts of this. Had to make it quick.
Black Treechas
01-19-06, 22:44
Thats one of the most useless posts I've seen on these board, SF. No need for a pissing match about who's been through the court system more, or an episode of COPS? Come on!
Lots of great advice and thoughts have been said. Not always in the best way, but who gives a shit.
One thing I am curious about. Would anyone be willing to post about their LEO encounter and actually dealing with the legal system and shit? Sure, I'll post mine. Was in August 2004, in a city out west. I pulled up to a SW in front of a motel. I think she asked if I was looking for a date, or she said she was working. I did not commit to anything, I just asked if she wanted a ride, I think. So she got in. That took about 5 to 10 seconds. In the car she asked what I wanted, and said she could give a blow job in the car. I said I prefferred motel rooms, and asked if she had a room. She said yes, back at that motel. It was pretty sleazy. I asked if she's go up to the downtown area and stay all nite at a better place. She said sure, and was thinking about price. She wondered aloud what all nite would cost. So during this time, I'm driving around a few blocks, and suddenly there's a blue light behind me, blue light on the dash on an unmarked car. She said we were fine, we were not doing anything. And we exchanged first names real quick, and that we knew each other. Police had me get out, and she stayed there. As it turns out the motel was under surveillance. I got asked what we agreed to, and for how much. I said we agreed to nothing, and did not talk about money. I got pressed to tell more, but I didn't. I said I just picked her up and we were going to the casino to gamble for a bit. Meanwhile, she was telling the truth. Yes, she was a SW. The police wanted info on the motel. They were looking for a racketeering sort of thing. Came up with nothing. After 20 minutes, my interviewer became cordial, friendly. And let us go. I asked if I was going to get a citation or written warning, and they said no, they would just record that they made contact with me. They told her they did not care if we went for a "date" or not. But that was enough thrills for one nite. I drove her back to the motel, dropped her off, and thanked my lucky stars and went home.
Member #4862
01-20-06, 00:01
One thing I am curious about...would anyone be willing to post about their LEO encounter and actually dealing with the legal system and shit?
Most posts in the Boston forum are completely useless. Cruiser D is a simple example of an someone who thinks he's not a criminal and the police are all Nazi-like. We all know the game and we are all players. Some play smart, some don't.
As for posting information on LE encounters and dealing with the misdemeanor criminal violations, well, I know that stuff INSIDE OUT. I'm willing to share some information, time permitting, but typically through the PM system which is where I share 99.99% of my info related to this forum's topics. Legal and otherwise.
BM, I don't think you'll be chuckling all that much when you end up on the registried sex offender list if you are convicted.
SF, my past and current postings speak for themselves. Anyone who has any real life experience knows that they jive with reality. Considering how easily offended you got I would guess you are some how related to LE, but obviously not directly on the line - unless you live in Mayberry. You seem to have a problem being able to clearly read my postings. I would be more then happy to explain them to you but I really don't think we have anything else to say, do we?
Do I think I'm not a criminal - well...I can say I don't think there should be any vice crimes and leave it at that.
As far as cops being Nazis. I have no idea where you got that from. Cops in the NE are just guys who did some poor career planning, took a test and landed a good job. I however have a problem with the MSP, you know the guys you blow by you doing 85-90mph on the highway and then pull you over for doing 85-90mph the next day. And I have a big problem with their wacko unless psuedo military training for recruits. Cops are just like any other city or state employee; generally useless, sometimes helpful, sometimes annoying.
You can argue courts. You can argue cops. But basically it comes down to Karma. That's right gentlemen. It's what the cop feels like at the moment. He could care less about a "conviction". He knows by merely picking you up, he's given you a major hassle, if not life changing experience. Who needs a conviction when will you already be convicted by your family? Face it, the court fine is merely an embarresment. Hey, if I was single, I would just laugh.
Now down to brass tacks. Say nothing, be polite and coopertive. Sounds contradictory? Well it should. Because a million thoughts will be going through your head but the ultimate motive is to drive away. Do what it takes SHORT OF ADMITTING ANYTHING. Even breaking down and crying is OK.
That is advice if you are caught. But with a little common sense you shouldn't get caught. You can sense when things aren't right. And don't believe that decoys are all fugly. Two years ago I saw decoy in Lawrence that would make your head spin.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=197248&postcount=295
Basically good luck. You know the risks. You know the consequences.
Phat Bastard
01-20-06, 10:06
Most posts in the Boston forum are completely useless.
I agree but there are good reasons for this.
One is that there are hardly any SW's working out there and only a fraction of these are worth picking up or reporting on.
Another is that we all know for a fact that members of the Boston Police Department monitor the Boston thread.
Therefore posting information on an SW encounter is the exact same as telling a vice officer face to face or announcing at the watch briefing a detailed description of who we saw where, when we saw them and what acts they're willing to perform for how much.
So posting specific information either leads to a crackdown whenever SW activity increases, which I've seen happen right after someone posts about the increase even though it's been going on for weeks or it incriminates you in criminal activity which can be traced back to you unless you're using a throwaway e-mail address and a proxy IP.
Member #4862
01-20-06, 10:32
So posting specific information either leads to a crackdown whenever SW activity increases, which I've seen happen right after someone posts about the increase even though it's been going on for weeks or it incriminates you in criminal activity which can be traced back to you unless you're using a throwaway e-mail address and a proxy IP.
Nail on the head my man. Sharing general information isn't too dangerous. Being very specific is just plain silly. However, I have a hard time believeing that LE learns something from this board that they don't already know. Do you think a patrolman in certain area on grave shift doesn't know that there was a certain SW at a certain intersection?
Posting phone numbers and names of SWs is what I don't understand. Let's just share publically the best times and locations and whether or not a specific SW is an ROB.
I have less than 100 public posts, but I've traded well over 1000 PMs since I started using this board. I've covered Washington DC, Baltimore, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Orange County, CA, San Diego, TJ, and now Boston/Lowell. SFRedbook.com is great for San Francisco information. Well, it was a few years ago. Nothing but trash posts now.
As for throw away e-mail addresses and proxy surfing ... doesn't everyone do that? There are plenty of Aisian-based free proxy servers to choose from.
Lastly, if anyone wants to learn the truths around the legal system, enroll in law school instead of watching 'Cops'.
Boston Monger
01-20-06, 10:51
BM, I don't think you'll be chuckling all that much when you end up on the registried sex offender list if you are convicted.
That never dawned on me.
I'm sure the ADA will forget to mention that to you when he offers a 'great' plea bargin. ;)
That never dawned on me.
Phat Bastard
01-21-06, 12:31
Posting phone numbers and names of SWs is what I don't understand. Let's just share publically the best times and locations and whether or not a specific SW is an ROB.
As for throw away e-mail addresses and proxy surfing ... doesn't everyone do that? There are plenty of Aisian-based free proxy servers to choose from.
I'm the only person that I know (aside from cyber buddies) that uses proxies and throwaways. Everyone I mention it to wonders what the hell I'm up to that I need to be so secretive about;)
What's a ROB?
Member #4862
01-21-06, 18:53
I'm the only person that I know (aside from cyber buddies) that uses proxies and throwaways. Everyone I mention it to wonders what the hell I'm up to that I need to be so secretive about;)
What's a ROB?
ROB = Rip-Off Biotch.
It's always wise to use proxies when you surf these sorts of site, or any sites for that matter. It's never a bad thing to make a web site to think you're surfing in from Kazakhstan.
Phat Bastard
01-22-06, 02:53
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From Boston.com;
MILFORD -- Five men were released without bail in Milford District Court yesterday on a single charge apiece of sex for hire after police arrested them in a sting operation.
The men allegedly consulted craigslist, the popular online site, to find sex for a fee. Instead, they allegedly encountered a female state trooper posing as a prostitute.
One of the men, a Newton Highway Division employee, could face disciplinary charges because he allegedly used an official city car for the assignation.
Milford police Lieutenant James Falvey, head of detectives, said he had ordered the sting in an effort to keep prostitutes out of town. Police conducted a similar sting last March and made four arrests.
''They're advertising, and they're willing to travel," Falvey said. ''We don't want them to travel to Milford."
Jim Buckmaster, craigslist's CEO, said in an e-mail message yesterday that he could not comment on an ongoing police investigation, but that ''craigslist strictly prohibits all illegal activities on the site, including sex-for-hire."
Falvey said that after noticing a section of craigslist labeled ''Erotic" apparently included women advertising sex for hire in Milford, he ordered his detectives to post an ad. The ad gave a physical description of a female state trooper who acted as a decoy, and an e-mail address that police monitored.
''We started getting swamped with e-mails," Falvey said.
On Wednesday, he said, several men contacted the trooper by cellphone and found her at a prearranged location near the intersection of Beaver Street and Medway Road, an area of strip malls, fast-food joints, and a couple of hotels.
The arrests occurred after the men allegedly specified the kind of sex they sought and the fees, ranging from $75 to $125, according to court documents.
The Newton employee was placed on paid administrative leave pending an internal investigation, said a city spokesman.
All five defendants, who live in Methuen, Franklin, Waltham, and Leicester, pleaded not guilty.
© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/01/21/five_men_charged_after_police_use_craigslist_in_sex_for_hire_sting/
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HornyAsianKid
01-22-06, 14:33
Can anybody tell me where the sw are in boston? maybe tell me a few possible locations. Thanks if anyone can help.
Boston Apple
01-22-06, 18:30
Been trying to work the Chelsea area, lately. I've never had any luck in the KA area, and today was no different. A couple of LE in the area, though, so I just kept driving.
HS area was dead. Saw a couple of HSWs there, yesterday. One was older, heavier, maybe a 2-3. The other was about a 6-7, and I was willing to give her a go, but another monger swooped in for the kill just ahead of me.
Boston Guy 57
01-22-06, 19:14
This is the fifth or sixth sting or arrest I've heard about relating to Craig's List. It was bound to happen. Providers are being far too blatant with their postings. Months ago I arrived at Quint's, the Asian place in Brighton, only to see two detectives questioning the guy who ran the place standing in the doorway of the house. I drove by the house, kept going and never went back. A few weeks later they where busted and shut down. Quint's was running dozens of adds a day flaunting there location and telling guys to just email for directions and come on over. LaBella was doing the same thing and now they are running almost underground in order to avoid publicity.
The cops don't care who's lives they ruin, they know that busting and parading johns will scare a lot more guys than busting and parading a prostitute. We can watch some hooker getting booked on Fox 25 and say to ourselves "She was stupid, she got caught, there are hundreds more where she came from". When we read about guys getting busted in a sting it's hard not to say "this could happen to me".
We can be as carefull as possible and still be in the wrong place at the wrong time because some CL discount escort ran 30 adds a day flaunting the fact that she was in downtown Whatevertown and pissed off the local police chief.
I've found some great deals on CL but now I'm starting to wonder if it's worth the risk.
Land Shark
01-23-06, 09:19
I found this last night as I was cruising MSN .com, anyone else see it?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10879309/
Boston Monger
01-23-06, 11:48
If you notice, the "stings" are happening in suburban, kinda "upscale" areas where the police are bored beyond belief. Arlington, Milford, etc. aren't exactly Lowell, Somerville, etc. I stated it before, but one more time for those just joining, do not hook up on CL in nice area. Period. I will thow out Lowell as an area where I would feel comfortable.
Sup Fellas,
I've been resisting the game for a while, the chill in the air from last night and planning this trip overseas, I decided to hit the stroll again. BHA/Lower Roxbury has gone waaaaaay downhill, so I made my way down to Mattapan. Something I haven't done in a long time. I did see some activity. I found two BSW's that were pretty pleasing to the eye.
The first girl I picked up yesterday was around 1AM. She goes by the name of Brenda(most likely not her real name) She tells me she often works Mattapan and not much place else. She, had on OK face, Thick body...Just porportioned in the right way, but not fat. She said she was 28. Well we got down to biz, which was not rushed but not that enthused either, but she stayed in formation and let me pound away for a good 10min. Something about customer service I guess. I would repeat cause she had a nice round ass (wished she spoke greek). She was a a ok girl and could be worth a repeat performance. I give her a solid 7 on my scale. Total Damage $25.
The second BSW I found was a decent one. I had to take a second look cause I was not sure if she was for real. I caught this one on Clarkwood St./BHA. She walked passed me and gave me the look, so I knew I was in. She said she was 26. She gave me a lackluster BJ, but made up for it for some good pounding for 10 Min. Hope I can find her again to see if she can step her game up a little. Total damage for her... $20.
After I was done, I saw two used up SWS that would make you dick crawl in your ass!. There was one BSW I saw get snatch up. From a distance, she looked nice but some guy in a beat down caravan snatched her away. I may be out again this weekend in "The Pan" just too get a taste of her!.On a side note, I just have a real problem with the guys hanging right next to the girls when you are ready to strike. There just to stupid to step away.
MeatMan
Land Shark
01-24-06, 17:04
Nice to see you.
Shark
Handiman66
01-24-06, 21:03
MAN, I thought they are hash in DC. You guys can get into each others shit pretty goo, too.
The below is the best advise for the approch money can buy. Take it from an old timer that has been doing this for 15 plus years (new to this board, though). Play it safe, period. Don't let your alter ego aka lil handiman et all speak for you.
If stopped, play it cool, be very polite, get the girls name if you can before LE hits the window, and agree on where you met such as a great story is picked her up at *** bar. If she cracks later then you still have the out of trying to get laid as you admited, without the paying for it no no.
Yes sir, no sir is the way to be. Additude creates arrest.
Be safe, keep the fire burning. Man I miss New England!
HM
#1 Never talk about sex , price or any other matter, out of the car.
#2 LE will never get in the car
#3 Roll window down and ask do you need a ride?
IF she ask what are you looking for, keep driving
Never say another word
Remember for every John they arrest, they are rewarded with a doughnut.
My dog will do tricks for dog cookies, LE will bust balls for doughnuts
Member #1705
01-25-06, 17:55
I was not surprised to hear that Labella had gotten in trouble. I used them once and was very surprised that they did not ask for my last name or a phone number, and the girl did not ask for an id when I showed up. They were very careless and it was only a matter of time before they felt the heat.
True Hobbiest
01-25-06, 19:11
Labella,
Poorly run right from the start in Burlington. They promised the world but sessions were always a bit rushed and depending on the girl not truly GFE or PFE. Scheduling was always a problem. To bad some nice South American ladies (My 1st choice right now for hot and sexy).
Play safe,
TH
Boston Guy 57
01-25-06, 19:47
CL is flooded with Brazilians now but buyer beware; many of them are fake. Yes, there are pimps out there who think we are too stupid to tell a puerto rican or black girl from a South American. LaBella is still out there but they are using fake pics most of the time. I rolled the dice on a LaBella girl a few weeks ago-she was ok but not the girl in the pictures.
Nice to see you.
Shark
Likewise Sharky!:D
I'm not the ol spring chicken I used to be, so Iv'e been slowing down quite a bit.
Handiman66
01-27-06, 21:01
Is room service still going up there? They were terrific, a few older GFE girls.
Boston Monger
01-31-06, 09:51
I'm on my way into North Station this morning when some chick begging catches my eye. Blond, liquid blue eyes, nice body. I strike up a conversation. She is clean, nice clothes, looks like a college student. I find out she's 24, just got kicked out of rehab (heroin) and has to live on the street for eight days. The whole time I'm thinking how much to get those lips around my tool. The whole time. It's 8 in the morning at NS and I'm scouting for places to get it. Well, she will be ther tommorrow and I know the words will eventually pop out. Maybe. Depends. I know by being in the area a lot, these "kids" work in groups or pairs. Chances are there's a boyfriend lurking.
Yeah, I know. Not an SW account. But at the rate things are going, we'll be posting about dogs we saw on the Common soon.
Phat Bastard
01-31-06, 14:02
I know where she can make enough money to pay for a hotel room for a night but she'd have to be willing to spend an hour or so there with me.
.............Just a thought.
Hopefully she's only begging days and is sleeping in a shelter at night.
Boston Monger
01-31-06, 14:09
I hear yah, but chances are it was just kids running a scam. NS is over run with little hoodlums, and LE just looks the other way.
They're usually hanging in Burger King or Mcd's. They'll give you a look, but you'll never know what there true intentions are.
Phat Bastard
01-31-06, 16:08
I hear ya;)
Bostonsailor
01-31-06, 19:53
Just wanted y'all to say hi if'n ya see me around the block in my monger mobile, do ya think its too obvious ??
Member #1705
02-01-06, 10:16
For guys getting tired of sw or afraid of LE. Visiting Girlfriends, Boston Beauties, and Bella Donna are quality agencies with beautiful women worth saving up for. Most are true GFE, young and willing.
True Hobbiest
02-02-06, 14:28
For guys getting tired of sw or afraid of LE. Visiting Girlfriends, Boston Beauties, and Bella Donna are quality agencies with beautiful women worth saving up for. Most are true GFE, young and willing.
Been spending quality time with these type of ladies lately...never rushed, beyond GFE (hey, afterall there are things even our own Girlfriends or wives wouldn't do) clean, dependable and mostly 9's and 10's. Morgan at BD is awesome but VG has the sweetest ladies of all.
Play safe and treat these ladies well.
TH
Boston Monger
02-03-06, 10:58
Cops put sting on Hub brothels: Flesh biz probed for potential sex slaves
By O’Ryan Johnson
Friday, February 3, 2006 - Updated: 12:59 AM EST
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Undercover cops have burst through the doors of backstreet brothels in East Boston and Brighton, rounding up dozens of suspected pimps and hookers and probing whether illegal immigrants were forced to work as sex slaves.
Detectives on Operation Dial-a-Date, active since the middle of last year, are hunting for links to organized crime outfits that bring women into the country through drug routes and force them into the city’s sex trade, said Detective Sgt. Kelley O’Connell, who overseas the Boston Area Human Trafficking Task Force.
“We’re a poor city,” O’Connell said. “It’s very easy to just blend in. That’s a problem we see in different trafficking cases. It’s a hidden business operation that goes unnoticed. It just blends in with everyday business.
“We’re working with different agencies to see if it rises to the level of organized crime,” O’Connell said. “It’s a matter of identifying trends. Are we seeing the same individuals? There have been instances where we’re seeing that.”
In East Boston, Operation Dial-a-Date has shuttered five brothels and netted 21 arrests, while an ongoing push in Brighton has brought in 67 accused hookers, pimps and johns. The number of backstreet bordellos is greater than cops expected to find.
In residential triple-deckers on Saratoga, Bennington and Meridian streets, they found a thriving flesh trade where women were offered for anything-goes sex romps with undercover cops for $30.
In separate brothels all run by Colombian men, police seized time clocks, spiral-bound notebooks, envelopes stuffed with cash, marbles or poker chips used as payment tokens, and plastic business cards that had been distributed around Maverick Square as ads.
Of five recent brothel arrests, three of the women were from Mexico, the Dominican Republic and Colombia. Another was from Georgia. Carol Gomez, director of the Boston-based Trafficking Victims Outreach Services Network/Mathahari-Eye of the Day, said operations are capable of rapidly shuttling women across the country from brothel to brothel. In East Boston, with its large, poor immigrant population, brothel owners are able to keep a low profile.
“It’s easier to market the women to their own linguistic network vs. maybe going into the mainstream where they might not know who to trust or who might be an undercover cop,” Gomez said. “It’s not uncommon even within the Spanish-speaking community for the rings to remain within a trusted circle.”
O’Connell said police are trying to break into that network and gain the women’s trust.
“The whole concept is to be able to identify a true trafficking victim,” she said. “First what we have to do is get them to speak to law enforcement. . . . Here you’re locking them up for a crime, so right away they’re under police arrest. . . . What we at the task force are trying to do is break that barrier and gain their trust.”
But Gomez said since the women are kept locked away and their legal status in the United States is often questionable, they rarely run to police or service organizations that can help them escape their captors.
“The women are often very isolated and unable to reach out for help or seek services,” she said.
Have found nothing worth while and even struck out at a recent trip to Tampa.
Finally connect with Lori from CL for an incredible BBBJ + Russian. Well worth the $80 and better than anything on the street lately (granted I would never pay $80 for something picked up on the street, but worth it nonetheless)
OH WHERE, OH WHERE, DID ALL THE LIVE GIRL PEEP SHOWS GO?
OH WHERE, OH WHERE HAVE THEY GONE?
Leather and lace in seabrook sucks.
anyone know of others?
Phat Bastard
02-04-06, 20:08
OH WHERE, OH WHERE, DID ALL THE LIVE GIRL PEEP SHOWS GO?
OH WHERE, OH WHERE HAVE THEY GONE?
Leather and lace in seabrook sucks.
anyone know of others?
As a veteran of the Combat Zone peepshows who had his first sexual experience there at about 15 years old (which today they call rape) I sympathize with you.
Leather and Lace sucks bad. All you can do there is watch a girl VIA VIDEO CAMERA for twice the price of a BJ or get blown by a guy through a gloryhole..................NO THANKS on both counts.
There were some peepshows in Connecticut a few years ago in some of the shithole inner cities down there. Maybe check their board....or just go to Cheaters in Providence instead.
Boston Guy 57
02-04-06, 21:06
There were some peepshows in Connecticut a few years ago in some of the shithole inner cities down there. Maybe check their board....or just go to Cheaters in Providence instead.
Cheaters is as "hands on" as it gets. A bit more expensive than the old peep shows I remember from the zone but there's no glass....
Phat Bastard
02-05-06, 00:44
Cheaters is as "hands on" as it gets.
Hands on, hands in, hand jobs;)
It's all good.
A bit more expensive than the old peep shows I remember from the zone but there's no glass....
In that place I first used to go to which was about four doors up from the Naked I (it was next to the bookstore next to the Pilgrim Theater *shudder* and Boston Bunnies) they had it set up so that you didn't put money in a machine you just passed it to the girl through a hole under the glass. If you paid a little extra and they liked (or trusted) you, you could either put your pud through the same hole or they would remove the plexiglass and either work you that way or one of you hopped into the other side. Some of the girls would just offer "services" to you as you wandered toward a peep booth and you'd go into one of the larger ones near the girls dressing room.
I remember (like an idiot) turning down 15-20 dollar BJ's because most of the girls would do it for 10. Now at somewhere like Cheaters it's around 145-195 for the booth time(35), the cover for the nude room(10) and the girl(100-150).
The last semi-decent peep show place was the original Liberty book store a block further up on the left side of Washington st. I still have one of their dollar tokens.
On one side there's a topless woman and it says "heads I win".
On the other side is her ass and it says "tails you lose".
You, me and everyone else who remembers the Zone will never see someplace like that again.:(
OH WHERE, OH WHERE, DID ALL THE LIVE GIRL PEEP SHOWS GO?
OH WHERE, OH WHERE HAVE THEY GONE?
Leather and lace in seabrook sucks.
anyone know of others?
I have been on a quest to identify the last remaining peeps in the country. Liberty Bookstore II was great (was there a "LB I"?) and from everything I can tell the last in New England (Leather and Lace is a joke and doesn't count). I traveled coast-to-coast and looked high and low for peeps. There are 2 remaining in NYC, 1 in Penn, a couple in NY (outside of the city) but as far as I can tell none anywhere else in the Northeast.
Some good ones in California and New Mexico, but if there really *are* peeps remaining in CT, I would LOVE to know.
Hands on, hands in, hand jobs;)
You, me and everyone else who remembers the Zone will never see someplace like that again.:(
The Zona Norte in Tijuana and King's Cross in Sydney OZ are probably the closest I have come to the old Combat Zone -- certainly there is nothing I have ever seen that compares anywhere else in the U.S. As much as I love this country, it pains me to see the lose of culture in the name of gentrification and bolstering the power of incumbent douche bags like Mumbles.
Bill Holdem
02-06-06, 13:57
I don't know why you guys are dissing that place. I used to go there all the time and there were couples where the woman would get all freaky with gangbangs and stuff. That place was the balls. Of course you had to dodge like 100 gay dudes trying to glom up on you and they were having orgies in the corners like 40 naked dudes or more at a time and it smelled like crap but otherwise it was a blast! And I am not talking about the trannies there. I must have got head from over 100 chicks there with their husbands lol. That place friggin rocked!
Boston Monger
02-06-06, 13:59
OH WHERE, OH WHERE, DID ALL THE LIVE GIRL PEEP SHOWS GO?
OH WHERE, OH WHERE HAVE THEY GONE?
Leather and lace in seabrook sucks.
anyone know of others?
Leather and Lace used to be good, many moons ago. I used to go to this one "mom" there who wore a business suit, with nice undies. On my way to work at 9am. What a dirty little girl she was for a mere $20 plus the "booth" charge.
There is nothing left. I miss the the Zone ones too. Remember tha "Carosal" setup? Where you could see the other pervs as the chick danced? Now that was creepy!
And the one booth with the TV. I used to love to go in there and heckle her.
Memories..........
I was at the Block in Baltimore about 5 years ago, and that place was hopping - dozens of strip and lap dance places, plenty of back room action. Nothing on the street like the Zone used to be in its heyday, but the Block brought me back some sweet memories. I hope it's still there.
In addition to the Glass Slipper, the last remaining piece of the Combat Zone should be Aga's Highland Tap -- since its been around since the 1940s.
But what's up with that place??? I have never had the guts or impulse to go in -- sounds like it sucks. But I would probably go just for the sake of nostalgia. Anyone have any stories about that place? Been lately?
Yellow Fever
02-06-06, 19:45
Remember the World Famous 2 O'Clock Lounge that was three strip joints in one. The seventies were memorable.
Phat Bastard
02-06-06, 21:44
There is nothing left. I miss the the Zone ones too. Remember tha "Carousel" setup? Where you could see the other pervs as the chick danced? Now that was creepy!
And the one booth with the TV. I used to love to go in there and heckle her.
Memories..........
Ahhh fuck, I'd blocked that out of my memories for the last 20 years....lol.
I remember in the original Liberty Bookstore they had that. You'd go in and she'd be dancing on the rotating carousel but you could see all the other guys faces pressed up to the glass as they rubbed one out. I used to stand way back in the booth so I couldn't see them and the girls would press up against the glass to make sure someone was in there. Man those old pervs made some really fucked up looking O-faces.
And when you were in a private show they always wanted you to pick up the phone.....riiiiiiiight, like I'm going to press that against my face after 300 guys have wacked off in there that day. I developed a system of hand signals to tell them what kind of show I wanted.
In addition to the Glass Slipper, the last remaining piece of the Combat Zone should be Aga's Highland Tap -- since its been around since the 1940s.
But what's up with that place??
Do youself a favor don't go in, unless you want to fulfill a fantasy about Weezie from The Jeffersons;)
I don't know why you guys are dissing that place. I used to go there all the time and there were couples where the woman would get all freaky with gangbangs and stuff. That place was the balls. Of course you had to dodge like 100 gay dudes trying to glom up on you and they were having orgies in the corners like 40 naked dudes or more at a time and it smelled like crap but otherwise it was a blast! And I am not talking about the trannies there. I must have got head from over 100 chicks there with their husbands lol. That place friggin rocked!
That place was like the theater in Escape From New York only with hundreds of gays, no lights and a heaping helping of Ultraviolence.
Aside from porno movies there were gay orgies and gang rape, people drinking, smoking weed and shooting heroin in the seats, drug dealers on the stairs to the bathroom, which was like descending into hell (after a few nightmarish encounters down there I just pissed on the floor from my seat) and vietnamese transsexuals with what looked like great tits offering head for 20 bucks, probabaly to pay for their chopacockoff operation. It was only 5 then 6 bucks to stay in there from 9 am to 3 (or was it 5?) am, making it one big homeless orgy, party shelter. I used to only go there after one too many at the Naked I so I could sober up enough to monger safely.
When the Zone needed an enema, the Pilgrim Theater is where they put the hose.;)
Boston Monger
02-07-06, 09:24
you remember the "Pussy Cat Theater" on Causeway Street? Back in the day (early 80's) before the North Station area was hip, this sleazey place existed across from the Old Garden. Me and buddies used to go in there, already stoned, drink beer and watch porn. Pretty deserted except for scattering of dudes rubbing one out in the afternoon.
Also the Liberty Bookstore had a screening room, but I never went. Seemed too scary and too gay. I did use their bathrooms, which for the most part were clean.
And which theater actually showed real movies in the Zone. I have a hazy memory of being on drugs and seeing "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" there.
VilunyaChert
02-07-06, 12:12
Pigrim Theater
I don't know if that's a typo, but *man* what a disgusting image.
Boston Monger
02-07-06, 12:53
Remember the World Famous 2 O'Clock Lounge that was three strip joints in one. The seventies were memorable.
"Narcissus (The Kenmore Club) Boston, MA
80s-early 90s. Awesome club in Kenmore Square. Anyone who is at least 33 remembers this three floored club. The names changed over the years but when we went it was Narcissus, Lipstick & Celebrations. Most of the girls you met were from the north shore of Boston and alot tougher than us."
I f'd more chicks here in my heyday than I can remember.
Phat Bastard
02-07-06, 13:29
you remember the "Pussy Cat Theater" on Causeway Street? Back in the day (early 80's) before the North Station area was hip, this sleazey place existed across from the Old Garden. Me and buddies used to go in there, already stoned, drink beer and watch porn. Pretty deserted except for scattering of dudes rubbing one out in the afternoon.
Also the Liberty Bookstore had a screening room, but I never went. Seemed too scary and too gay. I did use their bathrooms, which for the most part were clean.
And which theater actually showed real movies in the Zone. I have a hazy memory of being on drugs and seeing "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" there.
I don't remember the Pussycat theater but I remember the Pussycat lounge on the corner of Washington and Beach streets. Typical zone strip joint, door open, music blaring, never checked an ID WooHoo.
Yeah, Liberty had two movie theaters upstairs, one gay and one straight. walking into the gay one was a mistake you only made once *shudder*.
The straight one was no picnic either.
Real movies? Was that the same one that used to show the martial arts movies before finally closing? That's a nice restaurant now.
I don't know if that's a typo, but *man* what a disgusting image
Yup, typo.;)
True Hobbiest
02-07-06, 16:10
As I young horn dog I remember all the spots in the Zone. Could get stinky fingers just sitting at the bar and buying the "ladies" a drink for maybe $5.00. Those were the days and then catch the late crowd at "Lucifers"....those ladies all free, all horny.
"Sherman set back the "way back machine" to 1974 to 79!!!!!
Thanks for the memories,
TH
Also the Liberty Bookstore had a screening room, but I never went. Seemed too scary and too gay. I did use their bathrooms, which for the most part were clean.
And which theater actually showed real movies in the Zone. I have a hazy memory of being on drugs and seeing "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" there.What was the theater that had rap booths situated around a round stage?, a window would open and there would be a broad doing a dance for you on a rotating stage, Was it the "State" theater?
Your memory is correct, all those theaters on Washington Street were legit at one time before the zone was created, I remember seeing "Kelly’s Heroes" there in the late 60’s / early 70’s.
Muff Scout
02-09-06, 23:19
I was at the Block in Baltimore about 5 years ago, and that place was hopping - dozens of strip and lap dance places, plenty of back room action. Nothing on the street like the Zone used to be in its heyday, but the Block brought me back some sweet memories. I hope it's still there.
Fluff,
The Block is still here, and still operating. I think the only new thing is a Hustler Club that opened up about two years ago.
I'll see you guys in April. If any of you head down this way, PM me and I will give you some Block guidance.
Safe hunting to all.
Muff Scout
Black Treechas
02-10-06, 03:38
I rememember when old Squolly (was it Scully?) Square was the zone, before government center demolished it all...the Old Howard Casino? Many more military, mostly sailors, would be out Friday and Saturday nights. It all migrated to the other side of the shopping district during when?? mid-60's was it? Still plenty of sailors out on the street in the early days, and great big mothas wearing the MP patch on their arms and carrying a long night stick. And that narrow side street connecting Washington and Tremont...had one small strip place up a flight of stairs, a small one-room thing, and 10 to 20 SW's working both sides of the street.
I visited once in the 70's when XXX was new, and I found it just too much. Many more book stores, movies, nothing left to the imagination for sure.
Bill Holdem
02-10-06, 22:46
Anyone remember the lady nick named 'tits' who used to go there and have dozens of guys jack off on her massive tits?
What about that mafia dude who used to carry a gun and try to muscle his way to get first dibs with all the couples?
What about 'big man' (6'6" mean looking black dude) and his wife 'precious" (fat lady but horny as a biotch). He used to carry a gun sometimes and they would sit there and the guys would start to gather. Then he would get his tough guy issue off by taking out his guy and ordering people to 'back off'. Then within like 1/2 hour a dozen dudes would have their dicks all up in precious' mouth and ass lol. About a year or so before the place closed they were in there and 'big man' was drunk. He had his prick out and was jackin off and he passed out. Some homo dude crawled up to him on his knees and started suckin his dick while he was passed out HAHAHAA. Precious didn't say shit or wake him up or anything, she was blowin dudes hahhhaaha
You guys reminiscing of old eh?..sad to see the ol Boston is gone.....Well not that you guys care to hear this, but as of right now I'm in the beautiful LOS for a month. The weather is hot, the drinks and food are cheap and the women are p-l-e-n-t-i-f-u-l.
Guys, you got to try this at LEAST once in your lifetime, you'd wish you'd never have to leave!
Lah Korn Khrup!
MeatMan
How many of you remember Izzy Ort's Golden Nugget - a combined soul music club and hooker bar? That's where Charlie, the eventual owner of Good Time Charlie's, The Pussycat Lounge, the Mardi Gras and the Picadilly Lounge. Or how about the 663 Lounge, on Washington Street, right across from where the Naked I was located? That was, for years, the premier hooker bar in Boston. Anyone remember the Pink Pussycat, or the 66 Club? And what of the Caribe, over on Tremont? The late 60's and early 70's were truly the golden age of Boston.
Craven Head
02-18-06, 12:57
The backroom at the Naked I was my favorite.
You would sit in the booth and get all sorts of action.
My other favorite was a dump around the corner, The Normandy Lounge. Anything would go in that place.
Sigh! I remember ALL those places in the last couple of posts! Miss 'em ALL!!
My first mongering experience was out of Good Time Charlies. There were at least 30 girls, fat ones, thin ones, white, black anything at all. I picked a light skinned latina about 22yrs old, an older woman. After I picked her out I had to walk around the back side of the bar so her pimp could OK me. We went a couple of blocks away to an apartment building and did the deed. It was $50 for half and half, I didn't know what that was. She had to spell it out, I was 18. She had the condom in her mouth, put it on me, I didn't know until after it was there, it was like magic. I'd rate the experience a 4.
Stressed Out
02-18-06, 22:10
yes your right...you could get anything there. I remember one day going in and buying one of the ladies a drink or 2....she was a little plastered...anyway she took me to the back of the bar unzipped my pants and jumped on my lap. Well she didn't have any pants on and in it went. No one seemed to notice or care.......it lasted a good 5 minutes. Those were the days....BBFS...and it happened several times with different ladies. Of course there were always the BJ's and HJ's that you could get from any one of the ladies. Of course you would never do it these days.... Ahhhh memories. And then there was Princess Cheyene...
I got my first bj in an alley in the zone.
Before we were done, a guy came out the back door of a restaurant and yelled at us. I jumped, pulled my pants up and took off.
Later that night, my friends and I were still walking around the area and a couple of us stepped into another alley to take a leak.
I started to feel warm, like I was pissing myself, and when I looked down I saw that the condom was still on me and I had a little "water" balloon going on.
I used to love Good Time Charlies too. Just walk in and take the girl of your choice. I'm pretty sure I met Robin Benedict there one night. Not sure if the prof was there at the time.
The pride of the Naked I! She had a little run in with the law recently. Being some kind of Dr without a license I think. She was a pro body builder in the 90s. Saw her on ESPN once.
Boston Monger
02-21-06, 10:31
took a cruise through the PA and did a roast beef run. Nothing happening.
Phat Bastard
02-21-06, 20:45
I got my first bj in an alley in the zone.
I always found that hilarious.
I can't tell you how many times I'd drive down Harrison ave way back when it used to take 40 minutes to circle the block and see some guy getting blown in the alley next to Bernies Pub. It wasn't even a dark alley because they had lights on to keep people from doing it, so you'd be parked in traffic, looking at some guy's ass who was so drunk he thought he was invisible, getting blown by one of the hags who couldn't get a "car date" because there were too many 9's and 10's running around (That "hag" would be a 10 by this boards photo gallery standards).
Before we were done, a guy came out the back door of a restaurant and yelled at us. I jumped, pulled my pants up and took off.
I'm pretty sure I met Robin Benedict there one night. Not sure if the prof was there at the time.
And that's the bad part about this business, there's always some fucking cowardly idiot who kills entertainers and providers.
Boston Monger
02-22-06, 11:02
I was staggering down Washington Street, circa 1986, falling down drunk. I got to that parking lot just before the retail section of Washington Street. It was 2am, and 3 SW's were hanging out by the parking booth. I asked this tall black girl for a BJ. She was really good looking. .5 she asked for. Back when I was young, I was stupid so I agreed. So I lean back against the guard booth, in full view of the world, and she drops down on her knees and goes to work. I lean my head back in pure pleasure. Then......
.....I open my eyes and notice she has stood up and inserted my tool into her box. She was grinding away, doggy style! I blow my wad. The she asks for an additional .5 for FS!
All this happened in full view of the world with the two other SW's cheering us on! Man I miss thosw days!
PsyberZombie
02-22-06, 16:59
I used to love Good Time Charlies too. Just walk in and take the girl of your choice. I'm pretty sure I met Robin Benedict there one night. Not sure if the prof was there at the time.
Boy , that name takes me back !!
For those of you don't re·call her = Robin Benedict was a 21 yr old Hooker who Tufts U. Professor Dr. William Douglas fell Little·head·over·nut·sack for , back in 1984
There was a 'Lovers Quarrel' , and so he killed her with a sledge hammer ; dis·membered her body ; and then deposited the pieces in a Trash Dumpster right behind where I was living at the time [ an apartment complex called University Heights ; in Providence , Rhode Island ]
This tragedy gave rise to an in·famous JOKE , natch =
Q. What do you call half a dead Hooker in a Dumpster ??
A. LEGS Benedict !!
[ Still inner·rested ?? see =
http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20040105/FP_002.htm ]
I remember that situation very well, since I lived in the complex in West Natick where she resided at the time of her murder. Surprisingly, I never visited her. I say surprisingly because there were a number of providers that lived in the complex and i walked to their units for sessions several times.
Also, my SO was working in the continuing ed department of Tuft's Medical School and was well versed in the story, since some of his "funding" came out of that department's budget.
My take on the situation was he should not be out of prison, even now. His crime had NOTHING to do with passion.. he simply killed her to keep her from ratting him out on the embezzlement scheme. In CA, that qualifies him for the needle, and I can't say I'd feel any pity for him if he got it.
Just my $.02 worth
Boston Guy 57
02-23-06, 21:50
I'm with you Paul. No mecry. Death by sledge hammer would seem appropriate.
Was anyone in the Pussycat Lounge the night that (I won't use her name, she's out of jail now, and even went back to dancing at the Glass Slipper recently) a dancer stabbed her bartender boyfriend? He was a bit abusive, and she had finally had enough after an argument. She stormed out of the downstairs dressing room, came up to the bar, jumped up on a stool and nailed him in the head.
Oh, the stories that could be told.
I will never forget the night that Willie Moses, Mo the bouncer and Charlie played an old prank on a customer...they put a fake $50 (one side was blank) on the floor under one of the stools. A guy comes up to the bar, orders a beer and happens to look down. This was in the late afternoon, so sunshine coming thru the door helped illuminate the bill. When he spotted it, he looked around nervously, then went down as if to tie his shoe. A working girl came thru the door, saw the bill, and was on it before he had a chance to grab it. She stuffed it into her bodice...a few minutes later, we all watched as she took it out and found it was fake. She marched right over to Charlie - "You fat MF, ain't this trick gettin a little old?"
Member #6039
02-25-06, 18:13
I was checking out Craig's list, and some of the girls want you to contact them by cell phone text messaging.
One girl states, "Text 'Play' To 2248" and, "Use your cell phone to contact me and make arrangements (it's the only safe way). "
How does this work? And is it really safer than other means of contacting the ladies?
Thanks
I was checking out Craig's list, and some of the girls want you to contact them by cell phone text messaging.
One girl states, "Text 'Play' To 2248" and, "Use your cell phone to contact me and make arrangements (it's the only safe way). "
Thanks
Like all things on the Internet, if it seems like a scam it is. That is a paid service setup like the old 976 services. It is used to access OPCHAT or Operater Assisted Chat (e.g., chatlines over SMS). I have never heard of it being anything other than a pay service -- could be $1.00 a message so you're chatting back and forth and think you've found a new girlfriend, and before you know it you've racked up $40 in fees in 20 minutes.
But to be honest, I am not willing to prove that out myself, so I am just passing on what I have heard and read.
Phat Bastard
02-26-06, 00:52
I was checking out Craig's list, and some of the girls want you to contact them by cell phone text messaging.
One girl states, "Text 'Play' To 2248" and, "Use your cell phone to contact me and make arrangements (it's the only safe way). "
How does this work? And is it really safer than other means of contacting the ladies?
Thanks
No, it's not safer than just calling and it's just as traceable back to you, actually it's less safe because at least on the phone, you know when you're talking to a woman, with text, it could be anyone.
Is this the ad?
http://boston.craigslist.org/ers/136962883.html
Just stick with the straightforward ads, if there's no phone number, consider it SPAM.
Member #6039
02-26-06, 20:52
Phat and Web Dog- many thanks. No its not even the same ad!
I read on the New York board that some of these calls charge $4 a pop. There is no need to experiment, the guys in NY have already lost their money!
For my 2 cents, I wish those of you out there who use CL would report on the girls you see. They are a bit less expensive than the ones with the fancy web sites or the agency girls, are more likely to be semi pro, but there is no way of learning which ones are any good. Obviously, a lot of us are using them (or else CL would not be so popular).
In any case - thanks for warning me about the scams.
Phat Bastard
02-26-06, 21:26
From Sundays Boston Herald
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=128061
Scores of Boston-area hookers are using a major Internet site popular with soccer moms, apartment seekers and job hunters to post hundreds of daily pornographic ads for unbridled sex romps that can be set up within minutes.
A two-week Herald investigation of free “erotic services” ads on the craigslist.org Web site uncovered prostitutes shacked up in hotels, operating from Spartan apartments rented by pimps or willing to meet for “car dates” in parking lots. Fees ranged from $50 to $250.
“Craigslist has made it much easier for women to engage in this sort of business,” said Boston police Detective Sgt. Jimmy Fong, who monitors the site, one of the 35 busiest Web addresses on the planet. “The (working girls) now have the power to select who they want using modern technology.”
Eight women advertising sex on craigslist in the past two weeks were contacted by the Herald by phone or e-mail. Meetings were arranged in 15 to 30 minutes.
Three women used Hub hotels and one sought to park at the South Bay Plaza lot. They seemed to have varying levels of experience in the sex trade. When told upon meeting that the caller was a reporter, all but one of the women refused to be interviewed.
In East Boston, where a crackdown on prostitution has shut five bordellos, a trio of “young, sexy, and willing” women posted contact information on craigslist, offering Johns “the massage of a lifetime.” At a Meridian Street location, a slight woman in her 30s with a pockmarked face and dark hair answered the door to a dingy, barren apartment, smiled and identified herself as Reann.
Told she was speaking to a reporter, she consulted with her colleagues. An hour later a man drove up and whisked the three away in a 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis.
“Rick,” who posted a “review” of this brothel on craigslist, described his encounter in an e-mail to the Herald.
“She appeared to be under strict guidelines for time, yet she lost track of time,” he wrote. “She mentioned that she gave the money to ‘someone’ who paid for everything that she needed.”
Despite the deluge of pornographic images and explicit descriptions of fee-for-sex services offered in Boston and at 190 sites in all 50 states and 35 countries served by craigslist, the company’s CEO, Jim Buckmaster, insists “prostitution is strictly prohibited” on the site.
“When it comes to legal escort and ‘sensual massage’ services, craigslist respects First Amendment rights as well as the privacy rights of consenting adults,” he wrote in an e-mail to the Herald.
“And as far as any ‘moral judgment’ is concerned,” Buckmaster said, “we do not impose our own, but rather leave this to the greater wisdom of the craigslist community, who are empowered through our flagging system” to help police the site.
Gabriel Atchison, program director at the Women’s Center in Cambridge, called on craigslist users, who routinely praise the site as a feel-good place to trade furniture or recipes and hunt for jobs or housing in new cities, to urge the company to ban the practice.
“I see it as another form of exploitation,” she said. “People are adults, they can do what they want, but it shouldn’t be so easily accessible as it is over craigslist.”
Buckmaster defends the site - founded by Craig Newmark, a legendary San Francisco Internet pioneer - asserting that it is almost impossible to tell which ads are stepping over the line.
“(A)ny knowledgeable law enforcement officer will tell you it is difficult if not impossible to know for certain whether a given escort or sensual massage ad could be a front for illegal activities,” he said.
But Fong, a veteran vice detective, doesn’t buy the explanation. “I think they just say that as a way to cover themselves,” he said.
Night Cruiser
02-27-06, 05:28
PB,
The papers have nothing better to do than to try to make a sensation out of a site that most people don't know about. After all any kid can go on the net and look at pornography if the parents aren't vigilant. Craig's list as PG as it gets. All the Herald has done is quadruple the hits that craig's hit usually gets on a Sunday. Bet ya that the escorts services are more than delighted to see so much free publicity.
Boston Monger
02-27-06, 11:45
although now the "risk" factor has gone up!
Muff Scout
03-01-06, 13:07
There is a CL crackdown going on in DC and Baltimore as well.
I guess when we kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan, they came here and became LE officials.
I visit your fun town every year in April, and usually indulge while there. Guess this may be a dry year:(
Safe hunting to all.
Muff Scout
Boston Monger
03-02-06, 11:08
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=128539
Cops: Craigslist suspect is sex ‘slave’
By Norman Miller/ MetroWest Daily News
Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - Updated: 04:53 PM EST
Police say a Brazilian woman caught allegedly selling herself on craigslist.org appears to be a sex “slave” lured to America for a shot at a new life.
The 23-year-old woman was arrested Monday in a Framingham hotel - the second night in a row women allegedly advertising sex on the popular Internet site were busted in an undercover sting.
The arrest of Claudineia Alves, 23, was “sad,” Framingham Lt. Paul Shastany said yesterday.
“It’s a white-slave trade, if you will,” said Shastany. “It’s victimizing these young Brazilian females. They’re willingly doing this, but it’s pretty damn sad they’re coming to this country to do this.”
News of Framingham’s craigslist sting is spreading fast. As of yesterday, all ads that mentioned Framingham were removed from craigslist, and several warning messages were posted by site users alerting other people to stay out of MetroWest.
“That was what we wanted,” said Shastany. “If you’re stupid enough to put your ad on there, don’t be surprised to have the cops knocking on your door, putting the cuffs on you.”
On Monday, police responded to an online advertisement for a “Brazilian Beauty - 22.” In the ad, which featured revealing photos with the face blurred, it claimed the woman was named “Bianca,” and she had “a face and body to die for!”
When police called the number listed on the ad, a woman with an accent answered the phone and a meeting was arranged at a Route 9 hotel in Framingham at about 11:30 p.m.
Once inside, police tried to speak to the woman, identified as Alves, but she could not speak English. She called the woman on her phone, and a deal was reached for $170 for an hour of sex, Shastany said.
When she was arrested, Alves told police she came to this country after she agreed to be a prostitute. She said there were several other Brazilian women she knew of doing the same thing
Boston Monger
03-02-06, 11:10
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=128065
‘Melissa’: I was desperate
By O’Ryan Johnson
Sunday, February 26, 2006 - Updated: Feb 27, 2006 03:35 PM EST
She’s a fresh-faced teenager who looks as if she could be serving lattes at Starbucks, but instead sits in Boston hotels for days at a time waiting for her cellphone to ring with requests for a “date.”
The 19-year-old Dorchester resident, who gave her name only as “Melissa,” is one of dozens of Hub-area prostitutes who advertise on craigslist.com, the Internet yard sale where users can rummage for used drills, baby clothes, living-room furniture and other cast-offs.
“I didn’t want to end up like this. In this lifestyle you feel cheap, you feel like you’re degrading yourself,” said Melissa. “I just never figured I would be in this situation. I never figured this would happen to me.”
She says she was beaten by her father, sexually abused as a toddler and shuttled between foster homes while her mother - also a prostitute - battled drug addiction. She lost her waitressing job four months ago, she said, and in a moment of desperation, turned to a friend and the Internet for help.
“A friend of mine mentioned craigslist,” she said. “She has a friend on there and that’s how it started. I’m independent. I don’t have a pimp. I don’t do drugs. My mother walked the streets. She was beaten up by her pimps. I don’t do that.”
Melissa said she cut and pasted a craiglist cyber-ad together using postings from other women who advertise under the “erotic services” menu of craigslist.org, and choosing a few names for herself. She rents hotel rooms in Dorchester, paying cash for two or three days in a row, then waits for the phone to ring.
On busy days she sees as many as five men who pay $150 per a half-hour or $250 per hour.
“This is the worst thing I’ve ever done in my life. ” she said. “I’ve always had straight jobs.”
Did a few loops on the lower roxbury stretch. Saw one very hot, young BSW at the beginning of BHA near the irish pub. Had not seen her before and she really stood out -- most talent I have seen in the area in a long time. By the time I made it back around she was picked up. Cruised the area from Mass Ave to Columbia, side streets and BHA -- NOTHING.
Phat Bastard
03-03-06, 08:03
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=128065
‘Melissa’: I was desperate
By O’Ryan Johnson
Sunday, February 26, 2006 - Updated: Feb 27, 2006 03:35 PM EST
She’s a fresh-faced teenager who looks as if she could be serving lattes at Starbucks, but instead sits in Boston hotels for days at a time waiting for her cellphone to ring with requests for a “date.”
The 19-year-old Dorchester resident, who gave her name only as “Melissa,” is one of dozens of Hub-area prostitutes who advertise on craigslist.com, the Internet yard sale where users can rummage for used drills, baby clothes, living-room furniture and other cast-offs.
“I didn’t want to end up like this. In this lifestyle you feel cheap, you feel like you’re degrading yourself,” said Melissa. “I just never figured I would be in this situation. I never figured this would happen to me.”
She says she was beaten by her father, sexually abused as a toddler and shuttled between foster homes while her mother - also a prostitute - battled drug addiction. She lost her waitressing job four months ago, she said, and in a moment of desperation, turned to a friend and the Internet for help.
“A friend of mine mentioned craigslist,” she said. “She has a friend on there and that’s how it started. I’m independent. I don’t have a pimp. I don’t do drugs. My mother walked the streets. She was beaten up by her pimps. I don’t do that.”
Melissa said she cut and pasted a craiglist cyber-ad together using postings from other women who advertise under the “erotic services” menu of craigslist.org, and choosing a few names for herself. She rents hotel rooms in Dorchester, paying cash for two or three days in a row, then waits for the phone to ring.
On busy days she sees as many as five men who pay $150 per a half-hour or $250 per hour.
“This is the worst thing I’ve ever done in my life. ” she said. “I’ve always had straight jobs.”
Yeah, making 1250.00 dollars a day must really suck but it's nothing compared to the absolute hell of making 325,000.00 a year....tax free.
(1250x5x52)
PsyberZombie
03-03-06, 09:03
Yeah, making 1250.00 dollars a day must really suck but it's nothing compared to the absolute hell of making 325,000.00 a year....tax free.
(1250x5x52)
BUT , SHE has to pay for the Hotel room = $ 26,000 @ $ 100 / night
AND , she burns up $$ 300,000 a year on crack , heroin , booze , and cigarettes
No wonder she can't afford to pay taxes !!
It doesn't happen much but I struck out yesterday in Beantown. I cruised the Arlington/Maginal/CT area to no avail. Must of been the time of day or my lack of knowledge of the city/stroll.
Pie
Boston Monger
03-03-06, 12:36
In Dorchester, derelict vehicle given heave-ho
Bus called a venue for sex and drugs
By Mac Daniel, Globe Staff | March 3, 2006
After months of trying to get a landowner to clean up the lot around an abandoned church in Dorchester, city officials took matters into their hands: On Wednesday, they seized and removed an old bus on the property after receiving reports of drug- and sex-related partying inside the vehicle.
Residents praised the city for the intervention. ''We were kind of shocked that it was actually moved," said a neighbor, Harry Thompson. The bus, he added, had become part of the landscape. ''It's a wonderful blessing. You take it one little bus at a time."
City officials warned that they have just begun to get serious. If Alexander Freeman, 56, doesn't clean up the property in the next several weeks -- including overflowing dumpsters and an abandoned dump truck with a fully loaded bin sitting idle at 155-159 Norfolk St. -- officials said they will place a lien on the property around the church. The process, rarely used, has been called ''clean it or lien it."
City records list Freeman as a pastor and owner of Deliverance Faith Tabernacle Church. He has been in the city's sights since August, and a warrant for his arrest was issued in February.
Freeman has been accused of failing to show up in court after being charged with fire code and safety violations in August 2005, related to property conditions.
But despite this latest salvo from the city, Freeman ''doesn't want to be found," said a Boston Inspectional Services spokesman, Darryl Smith. Calls to numbers listed for Freeman were unanswered yesterday.
The Inspectional Services office is not alone in its interest in Freeman. Boston Fire Department officials also want the property cleaned up; they have ruled that the site was a fire hazard.
City officials said they believe the former charter bus, a 50-foot coach about 30 years old, with its front windshield blown out long ago, had been bought to transport Freeman and his congregation, though neighbors said they were uncertain if it ever ran. Well after the church dissolved about 1995, neighbors began complaining about activities inside the abandoned vehicle.
After taking the case to court in August, the mayor's office, a neighborhood response team, and Inspectional Services moved in Wednesday to haul the bus away.
And if the bus is not claimed in the next several weeks, it will be destroyed, Smith said. Its condition makes it an unlikely candidate for the city's periodic auctions of impounded vehicles.
The inside of the bus was strewn with condoms, needles, blankets, and sex toys, officials said. ''It was being used for some illicit activities," Smith said.
''It's completely gross inside," said Jackie Wuestefeld, president of Blue Hills Towing in Quincy, which towed the bus.
The bus has ''just been part of the landscape," said Thompson, a member of the Franklin Field South Neighborhood Association, a community group. ''Every once in a while you'll see debris will just pick up there."
Thompson said that despite setting up security cameras outside his home, he never noticed drug activity on the site but did notice people going in and out of the bus. ''I thought they were fixing it up," he said.
Smith said city officials will continue to try to bring Freeman to court on a warrant issued Feb. 6. He also faces having the city place a lien on his property. ''It's the last resort," Smith said, ''but he keeps evading the law."
Nah...Back alleys and dumpsters are my forte!.:D
I'll be coming home in a week(Like I really want to)
Just Me 69
03-04-06, 02:21
These addicts have no interest in sex. They have no interest in you. They have no interest in their kids, families, country, money, or God, all they care about is getting that next bag of dope. I've seen some of these cunts wear the same clothes for a month. They will gladly steal your wallet, stick you in the belly with a knife, cut your cock off, or set you up to be robbed or worse if they think they can scam a few bucks out of the deal to buy some dope. They'd much rather scam you out of your money than suck your cock. So watch your back.
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A CRACK/METH *****
Here's a typical day for a crack/meth *****. Keep in mind that a day to a crack/methhead is 5 days to a week to a non-addict.
- Wake up from your last crack/meth binge feeling like you're dying, and craving dope so bad that all you can think about is getting high.
- Do not shower. Eat whatever is available, unless you're so dopesick that you can't hold down food.
- Go out on the street. Turn a trick with the first comer, no matter how dirty or scummy that person may be.
- Buy some dope from some scumbag dope peddler, get high.
- Repeat last 2 steps for 5-7 days, until you're so wacked out from sleep deprivation that you start seeing things, then you run out of dope and pass out. There will be no food, sleep, or showers during this entire time. Most ****** turn a trick about every hour or so, 15-30 tricks a day, up to 200 in a binge. Yeah, that's $4000. Big business.
- Pass out in a dumspter, some trick's house, or in an alley for 20-36 hours.
- Start back at step one.
- Repeat until dead or in jail.
There is no day and night for crack and meth addicts, only high and looking to get high. Nothing else matters, and I mean NOTHING.
A pretty pathetic existence indeed.
DA RULES
* Addicts are inherent thieves. NEVER leave your wallet unsecured. That means if neither your console or glove-compartment have a lock on them, put your wallet in the trunk or leave it at home and just bring the cash you want to spend and your driver's license with you while cruising. If you have a locking compartment in your car, put it in there and lock it. I once had a girl pull my wallet out of the console, steal all of the cash, and put it back without me even knowing. Another time my wallet was flat out stolen. Those were the only two lessons I needed. Keep it secured or you'll get burned.
* If she smells like a sewer, she probably hasn't bathed since last year. Drop her off. SImilarly, if she's got any visible sores or a rash, or it looks like she's got chickenpos, shes got herpes or syphillis. Don't touch her, just drop her off.
* Put your cash (bills) in separate pockets or in your socks, never keep them together, that way if the **** does manage to find one cash stash, she won't get all your money.
* ALWAYS make sure you're getting a female. There are lots of dudes out there who are crack or meth addicts too, and some of them have actually sunk so low that they go out and dress like women and walk the street. I don't know about you, but no matter how hard a man tries, he still walks like a man, and there are always certain features that are a dead giveaway - adams apples, razor stubble, very hairy legs, unnatural sounding voices, etc. If there's any doubt, just don't stop. Think about this: if these guys are desperate enough to suck your dick for $10, do you think they'd hesitate to rip you off, beat you up, or even kill you for whatever else you might have that can get them some dope? BEWARE!
* NEVER Take a ***** to your house unless you want to wake up with a big knot on your head and all your shit stolen.
* NEVER let the ***** out of your car after you've paid her but before she's done her job. She is NOT coming back, no matter what she tells you, and you WILL get ripped off.
* NEVER drive the ***** to "Get her keys" or "Get her purse", or "Drop something off at her mom's" or whatever other story she comes up with. She's going to get some dope or telling her buddies that she's got a mark and setting you up to be robbed.
* This should go without saying, but unless you like licking cock or eating cum, NEVER kiss or perform oral sex on a *****. Who knows how many cocks have been in that pussy or mouth TODAY or since her last shower.
I'd be willing to bet $325,000 she has a pimp and a drug habit.
One of the funny thing about SW's is that they are always saying how they need money for rent, car payment, insurance. I always reply with, what the 1-1.5k you made last night didn't cover your car insurance? Umm, yeah right...
Yeah, making 1250.00 dollars a day must really suck but it's nothing compared to the absolute hell of making 325,000.00 a year....tax free.
(1250x5x52)
Great report 69, you are dead on.
last month's Forbes had an article on earnings of sex workers over the years (but omits the obvious issue of where all the earnings go)
http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/11/economics-prostitution-marriage_cx_mn_money06_0214prostitution.html?partner=netscape
Boston Chang
03-08-06, 06:13
I've been lurking on the board for a while, and this will be my first post.
Was a little bored and couldn't fall asleep, so I decided take a drive around KA and CT area. CT was completely barren, with the usual suspects hanging around the 7-11. The cameras seem to keep most SWs away. Perhaps they've found another spot closeby that I don't know about? Haven't had any luck in this area since last October, when I managed to pick up a BSW who actually was sober.
Drove to the PA, and saw a couple of WSW standing near KA. They looked decent from the car and there wasn't any LE around. Still, there were plenty of passing vehicles in the area and I decided not to take any chances and called it a night. Didn't even bother to check out Chelsea.
Anybody seen the 2 WSW in PA before? I'll probably stick to my familiar CL girl for now, the scene in Boston is pretty much dead.
have they all gone missing or there are no more spots to look around? Have they gone to the public library and post their ads on CL? I hope to find more this year !
Phat Bastard
03-08-06, 22:21
Yeah, I'm hoping to find more this year too, the streets have been dead for months.
Who knows, maybe the recent (and future) CL crackdowns will cause them to abandon that as a marketplace and force them back out on the streets again.
Wouldn't that be funny:)
Yeah the PD's are missing the boat on this (did you get that all you lurking PD readers). What takes place on CL is usually private and discrete. CL's in the last couple of years has been swamped with former SW's and pimps. If the PD's keep this up it's going to be safer for them to go back on the street. But hey like the child molestation hysteria of the 80's it's easy to grab some cheap headlines.
Yeah, I'm hoping to find more this year too, the streets have been dead for months.
Who knows, maybe the recent (and future) CL crackdowns will cause them to abandon that as a marketplace and force them back out on the streets again.
Wouldn't that be funny:)
It's been awhile since I last posted, but I did'nt have anything good to report on. Last sunday 3/5 around 8:30PM I picked up a WSW with her rolling luggage in tow. Had seen her before but was always scooped before I could make my way around. She goes by the name, "Amber", skinny, slight southern accent, very small titties. CBJ was .5. Good service followed directions okay, would'nt use her tongue to lick the twins. She however did let my fingers do the walking... She said she dances at one of the clubs but was not eager to give up which one(Slipper or Centerfolds). Anyone familiar with her? Late 30's tall,skinny, med brown hair, pretty face (about a 7).
As well does anyone remember back from this past Sept.05, a girl named Brittany travelling along the Coast giving FBSM? Have'nt seen any posting on her anywhere. I first saw her ad on Craigslist.
The issue, however, is that, though CL is a cyber redlight district, its still lands in someones back yard.
NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard!) reigns supreme over common sense, forethought and wisdom. NIMBY is fueled by ignorance and shortsightedness.
But then...I wouldn't want SW walking in my back yard. If I was at a hotel on a business trip, I don't want SW having guys come in and out all day and night next to my door room. My own hypocrisy is evident...being a clean surbanite.
If only we were Amsterdam with an 800 year old red light district, this would not be an issue. The only american solution takes political cajones. Legalize it, put it in legal brothel, and tax it...or just leave all the fuck alone and maintain status quo with a head nod to JQ Publics interests.
The Red Light District in Amsterdam doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are residences, business and restaurants in and around it. The city of Amsterdam itself was first settled around 800 years ago. The Red Light District was established around the end of the 17th Century. Contrary to popular belief prostitution wasn't legalized in Amsterdam until 2000 - before it was just tolerated. This isn’t something I read in a book, I have been there many times (and no, not for ho’ing). Prostitution is going to occur, it's really not a big deal and it's a good idea to keep in just one spot; to both keep an eye on it and to let people who want to avoid it do so.
If a hotel/motel doesn't want ho's, pimps and johns hanging around they simply call the cops to run them out. Are you as such a fine and upstanding suburbanite going to be staying at the no tell motel full of section 8's, ho's and pimps? Kind of self-regulating isn't it. But Johnny Donut saw his chance to get a few quick headlines - now every local LE wants to get on the bandwagon. Zero risk, big press - can't get much better then that.
Hey, anyone else following the thread on CL's about some wannabe pimp and the Bedford PD? It's a wonder these people can walk and breathe at the same time (the pimp and the Bedford PD).
Boston Monger
03-10-06, 11:57
Agencies basically set up shop in one place for months at a time. If they had just kept shuffling around, there would have been far fewer busts. That, and wan-a-be pimps thinking it would be easy cash to set up in nice surburban locations.
It's cyclic. Once summer hits, LE will start working the streets again.
True Hobbiest
03-10-06, 14:50
Yes, CD I agree regarding Amsterdam, to me it's even better than Thailand. There are actually 3 Red Light Districts. The one everyone visits is focused on tourist mongers, higher prices and 78% of the ladies are stuck-up and cold. Prostitution as well as "smoking" cafes are cottage industries in the Netherlands. The other two districts are focused for the locals ...I always go where the "peasants" go. Too bad that the Euro has somewhat inflated the price of fun in Amsterdam, at one time 50 Guilda ($23 USD) would give you a really good time. My advice if you ever go....hit one of the "houses" Park 113 is my recomendation. Ah, but back to the Puritanical USA, oh of course there is always the Ranches in Nevada, been there done that...over priced and full of themselves. HK is the only real value here on the East coast, gee I wish I could only stay away from these $$$ escorts and take the trip to Waterbury more often.
Who really cares anyway right, next time more useful information, I promise.
Play safe, stay safe,
TH
Boston Guy 57
03-10-06, 19:58
Cruiser D's got it right. These busts are a win win for local LE. The publicity has made every police dpartment aware of what's going on and has put pressure on them to stop it. It's true the warmer weather will bring LE back to street patroling but these CL hotel busts are no going away in a hurry. Providers need to wise-up and show more discretion. Unfortunately some of the low end trash on CL are too stupid to get out of their own way.
Blugrasstreets
03-11-06, 09:30
Since this board has become a place to reminisce, I'll post some pics from back in the day. Circa June 2001.
Phat Bastard
03-12-06, 11:51
Since this board has become a place to reminisce, I'll post some pics from back in the day. Circa June 2001.
I think I know exactly where that pic was taken....literally.
That's Tyler street, right at Tai Tung. You go down Washington from Kneeland and take a left and that crosswalk is right around the curve.
The crosswalk is right above the pointer in the pic, although they were taken years apart.
I think I remember her too but that's another story.
I only wish digital cameras had been around in the 80's and 90's so I could have nabbed a few hundred shots of my own.:(
Heck, back then you didn't even need a flash because they were out in daylight.
Great job with the pic Blugrasstreets, keep them coming if you've got them, I'll bet I'll recognize most of them.;)
Blugrasstreets
03-12-06, 13:02
I think you got the location right Phat. Here another one just a little further down the street.
I think I know exactly where that pic was taken....literally.
That's Tyler street, right at Tai Tung. You go down Washington from Kneeland and take a left and that crosswalk is right around the curve.
The crosswalk is right above the pointer in the pic, although they were taken years apart.
I think I remember her too but that's another story.
Sheesh--even on the best of days in Cincinnati's OTR, we don't have them walking the streets NUDE! Thanks for the (hallucinatory) picture. Want to tell us more?
So... how long ago WAS the picture taken? I have adjusted the image to show what us plebians in the midwest are seeing in our fantasies...
I think you got the location right Phat. Here another one just a little further down the street.
You can see the construction fence next to the girl. When they put that building up that was the beginning of the end for Tyler. Do you know who the girl is? Is it Molly or Nicole by any chance?
For the guy who thinks the girl is naked from the waist up - she isn't. She's wearing a very small pink top. That is how they used to dress in Boston back before our current sad state of affairs.
Some days I wished I never took up this 'hobby' and other days I wish I had started earlier and done it more often. Pictures like those make me feel like the later. ;)
I think you got the location right Phat. Here another one just a little further down the street.
Phat Bastard
03-12-06, 23:10
Sheesh--even in the best of days in Cincinnati's OTR, we don't have them walking the streets NUDE! Thanks for the (hallucinatory) picture. Want to tell us more?
So... how long ago WAS the picture taken? I have adjusted the image to show what us plebians in the midwest are seeing in our fantasies...
You're better off having never had hundreds of girls like that walking the streets 24/7/365 for decades like we used to, because once they're gone it kills ya.:(
Phat Bastard
03-12-06, 23:17
you can see the construction fence next to the girl. when they put that building up that was the beginning of the end for tyler. do you know who the girl is? is it molly or nicole by any chance?
some days i wished i never took up this 'hobby' and other days i wish i had started earlier and done it more often. pictures like those make me feel like the latter. ;)
i took it up in the peepshows when i was way ****, moved to the streets when i got a car, picked up girls as often as i could and i still wish i had started earlier and done it more often ;)
hey blugrass, that second pic is right before the next corner from when they were building that bu lab or whatever it is. that yellow light in the background is a restaurant sign on the other side of kneeland.
awesome job with the pics. they're tearing my heartstrings but i love em. :)
Just heard on the Fox25 news that the LEO's have found a body of a woman on BHA. Not sure of the details. And I was going to go for a stroll. Not sure if I want to now:(
LoveLatin05
03-13-06, 00:37
Damn. the old days, when i was around 20. good thing i got the tail end of it, to even know what it was like. thanks for the pic, boston's thread was lacking in pics.
Boston Monger
03-13-06, 10:01
I think you got the location right Phat. Here another one just a little further down the street.
so gone. Deep down I fear that they are not coming back. Not unless we have a depression. The city is just so "clean" now. I think once the Central Artery came down, it was the end. I've been at this since the early eighties, and I've never seen things so dead.
You can see the construction fence next to the girl. When they put that building up that was the beginning of the end for Tyler. Do you know who the girl is? Is it Molly or Nicole by any chance?
For the guy who thinks the girl is naked from the waist up - she isn't. She's wearing a very small pink top. That is how they used to dress in Boston back before our current sad state of affairs.
Some days I wished I never took up this 'hobby' and other days I wish I had started earlier and done it more often. Pictures like those make me feel like the later. ;)
Maybe that girl isn't naked from the waist up, but I remember plenty of SW's who would flash for the mongers cruising the streets, just to give you an idea of what you were buying. One of my favorite SW's of all time was this young blonde girl, wearing a mink coat, wide open, with a white bra, panties, and stockings - right on the street - with a killer body. Somebody please bring us a time machine so we can go back to that time for just one more night.
PsyberZombie
03-13-06, 18:09
Some days I wished I never took up this 'hobby' and other days I wish I had started earlier and done it more often.
Truer Words were never spoken , C·D
I think you speak for virtually every Member here ....
Lucky Luke
03-13-06, 19:33
Had good time with Amber in the last saturday in nice hotel. Check out if u like her profile.
Blugrasstreets
03-14-06, 00:14
Here's a few more from the same time period. About 2001.
Night Cruiser
03-15-06, 02:19
Pelham official accepts plea deal (from the Lowell Sun)
PELHAM -- XXXX, chairman of the Conservation Commission, has accepted a plea bargain for a lesser charge after he was arrested last month when he allegedly tried to hire a prostitute, according to published reports.
XXX, 51, of XXX, pleaded guilty March 2 -- six days before his scheduled arraignment date in Nashua District Court -- to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct.
Justice XXX ordered XXX to pay the maximum fine of $1,000, plus $200 in a state penalty.
Police arrested XXX during a sting operation between Feb. 9 and 10 at the Holiday Inn on Northeastern Boulevard in Nashua. Police said seven men and seven women were originally charged with "prostitution and related offenses," a misdemeanor, after allegedly posting and/or responding to ads on the Web site craigslist.com.
The men who were arrested, allegedly responded to fake ads that police had posted on the site's "erotic'' section. A woman, who was working with police, met the men at a Nashua hotel while police monitored the conversation. As soon as a financial deal was struck, the men were arrested.
Member #3950
03-16-06, 09:30
Okay, as long as everyone else is remeniscing, I can't help but get in the act. I first got sucked into the Zone in the Fall of '91. Being a hick from the sticks of Cow Hampshire, I didn't know anything about it. My roomate and I came down from UNH to see a Grateful Dead show at the Garden, and somehow on the way home got on the Expressway south. In an effort to turn around, we took the first exit, and wound up in Chinatown. As we were getting turned around I saw a blonde in the street by the Med Center dressed rather scantily. I told my buddy that it had to be a hooker and we both stared in amazement. Naturally, I wasn't prepared to do anything about it that night, but I came back down myself not a week later, and I've been hooked ever since. It's actually been years to since I've down the C-town stroll, but it sounds like I'm not missing anything. Ahhhh memories...
If you stopped cruising anytime before 2001 and you came down to CT right now you wouldn't think you are in the same place. 1) no girls 2) a lot of the buildings have changed. Both 1 and 2 are related.
Okay, as long as everyone else is remeniscing, I can't help but get in the act. I first got sucked into the Zone in the Fall of '91. ..
I can't help but remember back in the late 70's when I first started visiting the zone. I remember being on I believe Lagrange St and having SW pulling my pants down while stuck in traffic. I don't believe we will ever see anything like that again. Stopped hitting the zone in late eighties or maybe early ninties. Love to hear about old stories. I was one of the guys who got a BJ while leaning against a building while traffic drove by, To be able to travel back to that time with what I know now!
The beginning of the end came when the Harvard football player, Andy Puopolo, was killed in a scuffle with a pimp. The pimp's hooker had relieved Puopolo of his wallet with the old 70's trick of putting one hand in a guy's crotch and the other in his pocket. At the end of his chase to retrieve the wallet, the pimp used a knife to end the scuffle - Puopolo was killed, and a friend wounded.
Kevin White, then the mayor of Boston, had declared the zone an adult entertainment area, and instructed his police commissioner, DeGrazia, to take a laissez-faire stance on the area. As a result the place was full of roving, young hookers who doubled as pickpockets. The real streetwalkers and bar-girls who worked Good Time Charlie's and The 663 hated the hordes of street thieves...club owners talked about banding together to do something about the problem, but could not agree on just what they could do.
Shortly after the Puopolo incident, DeGrazia left Boston and a new commissioner was installed, with instructions to clean things up. It didn't take long for the streets to get pretty barren. That lasted for a while, until the early 80's, when things began to get somewhat back to the original state - but never back to the craziness that marked the early and mid-seventies.
Just Me 69
03-19-06, 13:44
I can remember 1961, when the pimps had hookers in rooms along, Washington, Columbus, Tremont.
Sw's were out every hour of the day, slowly the yuppies moved into the south end and slowly it changed.
1970's and 80's
China Town was crazy at night, girls walking in the street barely dressed, as we all know the drugs have changed a lot of the girls from sweethearts to mean bitches.
Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill, Brockton, Lynn,Chelsea,Taunton and old city that is poor, you will find what you want, I read that men are paying 40 for BJ,it is fools like this that make the price inctrease for all of us.
Never pay more than 20-25 for BJ.
T
Just Me 69
03-19-06, 13:47
I can remember 1961, when the pimps had hookers in rooms along Washington, Columbus, Tremont.
Sw's were out every hour of the day, slowly the yuppies moved into the south end and slowly it changed.
1970's and 80's
China Town was crazy at night, girls walking in the street barely dressed, as we all know the drugs have changed a lot of the girls from sweethearts to mean bitches.
Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill, Brockton, Lynn,Chelsea,Taunton and old city that is poor, you will find what you want, I read that men are paying 40 for BJ,it is fools like this that make the price inctrease for all of us.
Never pay more than 20-25 for BJ.
They will take the 20 because the crack is 10 and weed is 10, tip 5 and they have a pack of smokes.
And who are the nuts who go down on these women?
I read where men brag they went down on a crack *****.
They rarely wash, they are up for 5 days at a time
Be safe it's your body
The sixties were really something. Almost the entire city was an open air brothel. The back bay - Boylston, Marlboro and all the interconnecting streets were strolls, all the way out to Mass Av. Mass Av itself, all the way down to the expressway, and the whole area around Symphony Hall had good hunting. Columbus, Washington and Tremont all the way out to Mass Av and beyond had lots of action. Park Square, with two strip clubs, was always a good area.
Boston in those days was a monger's paradise. The girls along Columbus, Tremont or Washington would yell out "10 and 2" as you drove by - ten bucks for the service and two for the room. Only a fool or neophyte parked and went to one of those rooms; the risk was huge.
It was a fun town. More action than you could shake a stick at.
Boston Monger
03-20-06, 10:39
DEAD. Nudda.
I'm hoping with the coming of warmer weather, things will change.
Guys, you know what I miss the most? The Danish!
OK, OK--I am, after ALL this time, still the novice... Reading your post (from how many years ago???), the hard reality of what had happened to me THIS WEEKEND hit home... The story??...
Picked up a sweet petite young thing who seemed adequately with it, good conversationialist, made good contact. [;-)] Off to a secluded dead end side street. She applies quite nice oral attention...
Later that afternoon... Hmmm... Where IS my cell phone. I have taken great care to carry my monger's wallet with no more than I can risk in my hip pocket. My primary wallet is securely stashed. (If interested, see my "13 rules":
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=409297&postcount=11
BUT... a rule NOT included in these 13 is to remove one's cell phone to a distant location...
It seems that her fingers did the walking while her lips were doing the business... Sh*t. Still HOPING to find the missing cell phone. Seems unlikely at this point. And, BTW, do you think that Sprint, with its high tech GPS ability, could find the stolen cell phone???? Not if it was not in THEIR interest... F**king corporations.
Bottom line--Empty your pockets of EVERYTHING before practicing the monger's dance... Expensive lessons, these.
The beginning of the end came when the Harvard football player, Andy Puopolo, was killed in a scuffle with a pimp. The pimp's hooker had relieved Puopolo of his wallet with the old 70's trick of putting one hand in a guy's crotch and the other in his pocket. At the end of his chase to retrieve the wallet, the pimp used a knife to end the scuffle - Puopolo was killed, and a friend wounded.
Kevin White, then the mayor of Boston, had declared the zone an adult entertainment area, and instructed his police commissioner, DeGrazia, to take a laissez-faire stance on the area. As a result the place was full of roving, young hookers who doubled as pickpockets. The real streetwalkers and bar-girls who worked Good Time Charlie's and The 663 hated the hordes of street thieves...club owners talked about banding together to do something about the problem, but could not agree on just what they could do.
Shortly after the Puopolo incident, DeGrazia left Boston and a new commissioner was installed, with instructions to clean things up. It didn't take long for the streets to get pretty barren. That lasted for a while, until the early 80's, when things began to get somewhat back to the original state - but never back to the craziness that marked the early and mid-seventies.
The chances of sprint (or any other CelTel) helping you to locate your cell phone are slighty lower then the BPD assigning a couple of dectectives to your case to hunt it down if you report it.
OK, OK--I am, after ALL this time, still the novice... Reading
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It seems that her fingers did the walking while her lips were doing the business... Sh*t. Still HOPING to find the missing cell phone. Seems unlikely at this point. And, BTW, do you think that Sprint, with its high tech GPS ability, could find the stolen cell phone???? Not if it was not in THEIR interest... F**king corporations.
Bottom line--Empty your pockets of EVERYTHING before practicing the monger's dance... Expensive lessons, these.
Just Me 69
03-21-06, 10:46
Never let a hooker use your phone, when they call your name appears.
They now know who you are.
Never answer a CL ad with text messenger, they can bill your phone for fake charges.
If you lost your phone, cancel the number and get new phone with new number.
Just Me 69
03-21-06, 11:05
'Course you could be these cops in Virginia:
Spotsylvania Suspends Tactic in Sex Stings
By Karin Brulliard
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 18, 2006; Page B01
Citing public pressure, Spotsylvania County's sheriff said yesterday that he has suspended the practice of allowing detectives to receive sexual services during prostitution investigations, a technique that brought the quiet Virginia exurb attention from across the nation and around the world.
"As Sheriff, I understand the feelings and concerns the citizens of this county have expressed," Sheriff Howard D. Smith said in a statement. "And I empathize with those feelings."
Four days after the county's tactics were reported in The Washington Post, Smith said "the public's expressed response," which he did not characterize, persuaded him to curtail the investigative approach while his staff reviews it and prepares a report with recommendations.
Spotsylvania detectives on assignment to crack down on prostitution in county massage parlors visited Moon Spa three times in January and paid for massages, baths and sexual acts on four occasions, court documents show. On one occasion, they left a $350 tip, records show.
Smith and William F. Neely, the county's top prosecutor, said the sexual acts were necessary because the masseuses had poor English skills and would have been unable to make clearly spoken offers of sex for money. Such offers and evidence that more than touching occurred are needed to make a case under Virginia law, they said. Only unmarried detectives were assigned to the cases, Smith said.
The sheriff's suspension of the practice was applauded by Henry "Hap" Connors Jr., chairman of the county's Board of Supervisors. Connors, who had asked Smith to stop the practice, said he hopes detectives will now employ "more appropriate" means of investigating prostitution.
[QUOTE=Viejo]The beginning of the end came when the Harvard football player, Andy Puopolo, was killed in a scuffle with a pimp. The pimp's hooker had relieved Puopolo of his wallet with the old 70's trick of putting one hand in a guy's crotch and the other in his pocket. At the end of his chase to retrieve the wallet, the pimp used a knife to end the scuffle - Puopolo was killed, and a friend wounded.[QUOTE]Wow Viejo you just blew my mind reading you post about Andy Puopolo. He lived 4 houses from us when I was a kid. I remember his brother telling me he had been mugged and stabbed but never knew the whole story. I was very young when it happened and am sure his brother didn't get the details you shared. I had totally forgotten about the incident and would never remembered any of it.
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"...Off to a secluded dead end side street." Whoops...you should add another rule: Never, never park on a dead-end street. One-way side streets are preferable, so that any cars approaching are coming from behind. It's a lot harder to spot bobbing heads when passing a parked car from the rear. Also, if you are in a rough nieghborhood you don't want to be someplace you have to back and fill to exit - you want to be able to fire up and go with no delays.
Went out for the first time in a couple weeks last night for a couple hours (10:30-12:30). Very dead, the only girls I saw were on the cortes-isabella loop everywhere else was a ghost town. Of the two one was a girl I saw semi regulary about a year ago, tall brunette pretty decent looking. Last night she had on a pair of nice tight white pants, I didn't pick her up because I saw her get immediately dropped off three times after pick up. Her prices were always very reasonable, but I was afraid maybe up close the year had not been kind to her. The other sw was probably a man and an ugly one at that, and later I caught a glimpse of a third sw right as a cop nabbed her on cortes thats when I called it a night. Anyway I was wondering when was the last time anyone saw a sw on any other street in the track other than isabella-cortes?
River Phoenix
03-26-06, 17:34
Sounds like CT is completely deadsville so i took a ride down BHA, Dudley, Dot. Ave etc. Saturday night at 11 and again at 1. Nothing! 4 Scaries on BHA but nothing else. Is this the worst city for mongering in the country?
Hey, here's a funny little comment about the pink pants and top wearing WSW that was posted a bit back....
About the 2nd picture posted...Is it a law in the city of Boston that a white van has to be parked in that spot? 95% of the time that I have cruised Tyler there has been a white van parked in that same exact spot. Hey, was there any action on Tyler this past weekend? I noticed a Tufts cop idling and nodding off in his cruiser parked just past the new building. Also took a cruise through the heart of CT and noticed another old building has disappeared to be soon replaced by condo's...boo hoo. Makes me remember the good old cruising days and the topnotch SW's I got to know. Ah, the memories.
Boston Chang
03-28-06, 03:23
Drove through CT area last night around 4am by chance.
Saw a couple of SWs, but one of them was definately a man. Didn't see any LE around. Hopefully things will pick up now that the weather is much nicer.
Blugrasstreets
03-29-06, 10:52
Once again circa 2001. The traffic jams were legendary.
Craven Head
03-29-06, 17:57
A few years ago, I was out of work and needed to supplement my unemployment check. I ended up working for an escort service as a driver. I never had so much fun in my life. I kept it strictly business since the girls paid me for driving them. If you traded for service, you would never get paid again.
In our spare time during the night, we would hang out near South Station at the all night diner. It would be me, 2-5 escorts, and maybe another guy from the agency. He was a tall, thin black guy in the typical ghetto type clothes. I was the middle aged white guy that stuck out like a sore thumb. Nobody was able to figure me out. Even the pimps were a little worried.
Here are a couple of pics of my one fo the girls leaning up against my car. She corrupted me. I reformed her.
Boston Chang
03-31-06, 06:01
Couldn't really fall asleep so I decided to pick up some cigarettes and head on a run through CT and PA around 3:45am.
There were no SWs in sight around CT, but plenty of LE. I even saw a couple of State cars around CT, so I left the area quickly.
PA was empty as well. Cruised through a couple of times just to make sure, but even the few SWs who hang around KA were missing.
At least the weather wasn't too bad.
Boston Chang
04-06-06, 07:00
I've been doing the PA and CT cruise every night around 3:30am last week. Saw a few SWs during those times, but LE was everywhere so I didn't dare to pick up any of them.
Last night I decided to skip PA and headed straight to Chinatown a little after 2:30am. Saw a BSW further away from CT, closer to the Herald. Did the usual cruise around to check out LE, and picked her up. Wanted $.4 for a BBBJCIM but I got it down to $.20 for a CBJ (my choice). She knew a nice spot a little further south.
She had a decent looking face, and her body was average. Great BJ though, have to say she definately knew what to do. She didn't take off her clothing but did let me reach under to feel her breasts. Gave her a $5 tip.
Good luck hunting fellas!
Hey guys,
I wanted to know exactly where the strolls are as I'm visiting this city for the week. I tried CL but the girls rates are way overpriced IMO.
Can someone PM me the streets/intersections where the SW's are?
Thx,
PsyberZombie
04-13-06, 09:04
For those of you who use the Boston CL = there's this rob Pimp working up there who steals girls' photos off the LA·CL and posts them as photos of his girls — which can only mean that either his actual girls don't look any·thing like that ; or that's he's a pure Rob Job
I already called this guy up and told him he better buy some Salad Oil , because if Yours Truly ever catches up with him , I'm gonna turn him in·to a Vegetable
May·be YOU might think about giving him a ring ??
For details , go to =
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=429585&postcount=957
Muff Scout
04-14-06, 12:28
I wanted to know exactly where the strolls are as I'm visiting this city for the week. I tried CL but the girls rates are way overpriced IMO.
Dude,
That's just lazy.
You've been a member for three and a half years and your first post after all this time is a lame assed request for info?
I'm also visiting Boston next week. I found all the info I needed by just reading the posts on the board, doing a couple of searches and using Google maps.
Do a little legwork. That's a polite way of saying RTFF.
Muff Scout
Howdy fella's
So I havn't posted in a while.
I'm doing my best to not do this anymore but hey, I'm addicted.
Anyway, in Feb I did a cuise of ct, bha, and pa. ct and bha were a bit early I think so there really was nothing at all, not even the norms. I did however notice another camera in ct so heads up guys. There are at least 4 that are in plain view.
Cruised up to chelsea (where I've heard of camera's but never seen any) and actually saw a hottie almost right away. (If you get off of the first exit on Rt one n and stay straight. It was that one way street.) Picked her up, and she jumped right on a bbbj (which i didn't want mind you) so, it was great, she was hot as hell, but I got extremely sick almost that night, for like a week. Last time bb.
The moral of the story ---> THERE IS A HEARTBEAT LEFT IN THIS TOWN
I would be interested to know what Boston's surveillance cameras look like. In Cincinnati, they look like this one that I snapped on a hot corner:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27107
Look especially on the top of buildings on high SW/drug traffic corners. Cincinnati has been especially difficult this past month what with shootings and increased drug traffic in our favorite mongering neighborhoods... Now these cameras are popping up like mushrooms.
I would be interested to know if there are other models that we should look out for. Please photograph them and post if you find them.
Regards,
Giani
Howdy fella's
So I havn't posted in a while.
I'm doing my best to not do this anymore but hey, I'm addicted.
Anyway, in Feb I did a cuise of ct, bha, and pa. ct and bha were a bit early I think so there really was nothing at all, not even the norms. I did however notice another camera in ct so heads up guys. There are at least 4 that are in plain view.
Cruised up to chelsea (where I've heard of camera's but never seen any) and actually saw a hottie almost right away. (If you get off of the first exit on Rt one n and stay straight. It was that one way street.) Picked her up, and she jumped right on a bbbj (which i didn't want mind you) so, it was great, she was hot as hell, but I got extremely sick almost that night, for like a week. Last time bb.
The moral of the story ---> THERE IS A HEARTBEAT LEFT IN THIS TOWN
Phat Bastard
04-16-06, 10:48
Some people never learn.
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=135291
If you're going to go out mongering, leave the crack and counterfeit bills at home.
Should you forget that, at least try and avoid hitting a decoy with your car door, dragging a friend down the street or hitting a light pole.
Good call, Muff Scout. What a douche!
All, if anyone has anything current and useful they can B/C to Muff Scout, he is deserving and really helped me out in my trip to Baltimore.
MS, wish I had better data myself. I have not had a good pickup in Boston for months and the whole area is a joke compared to Baltimore. Any of my recent reports would be about Providence or "The Block" in your fair city. Last month I put in one single but solid night on "The Block" and have to believe it is the last remaining area in the U.S. that compares to our Combat Zone at its peak.
Dude,
That's just lazy.
You've been a member for three and a half years and your first post after all this time is a lame assed request for info?
I'm also visiting Boston next week. I found all the info I needed by just reading the posts on the board, doing a couple of searches and using Google maps.
Do a little legwork. That's a polite way of saying RTFF.
Muff Scout
Boston Chang
04-17-06, 20:32
I have to agree, Boston is very dry now. I cruise around at least 3 days a week and most of the time I find nothing. It's becoming more of a routine than a hunt for SW.
Just legalize P2P, tax and regulate it and put it away from residential area and schools. Hey, if we attack Singapore as a nation without freedom and they can legalize it, why can't we?
Good call, Muff Scout. What a douche!
All, if anyone has anything current and useful they can B/C to Muff Scout, he is deserving and really helped me out in my trip to Baltimore.
MS, wish I had better data myself. I have not had a good pickup in Boston for months and the whole area is a joke compared to Baltimore. Any of my recent reports would be about Providence or "The Block" in your fair city. Last month I put in one single but solid night on "The Block" and have to believe it is the last remaining area in the U.S. that compares to our Combat Zone at its peak.
Member #4862
04-18-06, 12:56
Just legalize P2P, tax and regulate it and put it away from residential area and schools.
I can just see the SWs lining up to submit their W-9s. I wonder if they will be able to write off their smack as a business expense since most of them have to be loaded in order to do what they do.
Bill Buxton
04-19-06, 07:36
The area is slow now so that meens that the pimps are not getting any money in there pocket. The pimps were bad in the early days and very brazen and thought that the streets were owned by them. I remember the PI'S would run around getting money from any girl they wanted when the track was loaded with pussy.
The police acted like they saw nothing. Many of whom got free service when on and off duty told to me by many of the girls. Well thats life in the big city I guess. I want to know whats happening there now? Where did so many girls that provided all types of service go? They go south for the cold season, but the local gals did they tale all the jobs at the local 7-11"s I DON'T THINK SO!
I have not ben crusing for quite some time and do not know the deal, but did boston P.D. get all the girls out and off the streets? What about Lynn? That was allways a great last stop after a slow night around the bean.
I must say times do change, and people change also but the sale of ASS will never die. The product is for sale all over the world and the good weather is getting here now. The girls will be out and around and the ones on tour should be taking up there old positions on BHA, and the CT track areas again.
This happens every year but I must say things could be different now. I think we should add a photo section here on the mass board to let the others see what is around.
Happy Hunting, Play safer. B.B...
Boston Monger
04-19-06, 09:19
I missed ya Bill. You are very entertaining. The run down for ya:
CT has some, mostly in the wee hours of the night.
PA is dead, pending the warm winds of summer.
Chelsea, ditto.
Lowell is hit or miss, but seems to be picking up.
Lawrence is like a ghost town. I suspect it will turn around.
Haverill is an enigma to me. I have never seen one SW there.
CL is taking a beating in the press and LE has figured out how to get at it.
maybe luck will smile on us all with your return.
Bill Buxton
04-19-06, 10:42
Thanks B.M. for the heads up. I will have to see whats up and what about Lynn? Is anybody hitting the area anymore? There was lots of gals around last fall, and the summer time. The gals there were not great in looks because of the chemicals they were on but sometimes you could find a dimond in all the coal. We will see what we will see.
The only way to in life is to PLAY BIG TO WINN BIG. The same on street action, hit the street and never give up. Allways be safe and never forget Be safe..
B.B.
Just Me 69
04-19-06, 14:57
Brockton is hot
Chelsea is not
Lynn is slow
Lowell will always have a few walking
Haverhill is hit or miss
Worcester is mild to luke warm
Springfield is hot, quality is low
PROVIDENCE for it's size is great
Going out of state?
Hartford is jumping
Baltimore is always hot -hot -hot
The point in new york is greaaaaaattt
Philly is hot
going north?????
Manchester is mostly in calls
ALBANY is hot at night
Portland is mild
Take your time do your home work and drive slow, stop at all red lights and stop signs.
Bill Buxton
04-19-06, 19:37
Thanks for the info, This old monger needs all the help he can get.
B.B...
Well...damn. Thought you'd never show your face back here. Welcome back...and keep the ladies out of your PM box, please. LOL.
hey guys.
I am going to be in boston for a coupleof weeks and was looking to get some contacts of some gals that fellow mongers might have used in the past. Non-pro's / gfe's would be great - but also real good escorts would be helpful. BBBJ / cim etc. Any tips / experiences?
Thanks in advance - and if any of you folks will be in asia (BKK / Sin / KL / India / Jakarta) feel free to email me.
Just Me 69
04-21-06, 07:29
Many people coming to Boston, stay in Burlington,Braintree,etc and think it's Boston.
Where in Boston will you be staying?
If a major hotel, go to the bar and she will find you $150---$300
If you are looking for quality and don't mind paying 250-300 try eros.com and goto the Boston section.
hey guys.
I am going to be in boston for a coupleof weeks and was looking to get some contacts of some gals that fellow mongers might have used in the past. Non-pro's / gfe's would be great - but also real good escorts would be helpful. BBBJ / cim etc. Any tips / experiences?
Thanks in advance - and if any of you folks will be in asia (BKK / Sin / KL / India / Jakarta) feel free to email me.
BB, the girls (and by girls I mean the pimps who run them) aren't returning until the BPD let's off the choke hold. It's been like this since 2001-2002.
Hopefully one night I'll turn the corner on Tyler and see the street lined with girls like it was back in the day. But considering it's now the home of yuppies, college kids, euro twinks and a Tufts Medical dorm I really don't see that happening.
I could be wrong but I always got the impression that you never saw the street action in Boston when it was good (pre 2000).
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This happens every year but I must say things could be different now. I think we should add a photo section here on the mass board to let the others see what is around.
Happy Hunting, Play safer. B.B...
Bill Buxton
04-24-06, 05:40
You are right about me and before 2000. I started the track thing in 2001 I think. The gals were around and sounds like those were the days.I have seen things change little by little for the worse.Like I said things should pickup I hope for the better when the warm summer sun gets here.Wishful thinking and we should all keep our fingers crossed.
Keep Looking, Play safe. B.B...
Latitude Cruz
04-28-06, 12:31
The point in new york is greaaaaaattt
I travel to new york regularly and have had success mongering there but always felt "I must be missing the real center of the action". Can you tell me more about "the point"? I did a search on the NYC boards with no luck :(
Hunt's Point in the Bronx. Never been but it looks like a crap hole to me.
The Manhattan SWs are at the 20's and Lex.
I've heard AC is like Boston used to be back in the day. Can anyone confirm this? Might be worth a trip. ;)
I travel to new york regularly and have had success mongering there but always felt "I must be missing the real center of the action". Can you tell me more about "the point"? I did a search on the NYC boards with no luck :(
Just Me 69
04-29-06, 06:27
HBO, has done many specials about Hunts Point, and Atlantic City.
On one special from Atlantic City, HBO, showed how many of the hookers were men dressed as women.
Most all would not do bbbj all wanted cover.
70% were black
20% latin
10% white
Latitude Cruz
04-29-06, 14:53
Hunt's Point in the Bronx. Never been but it looks like a crap hole to me.
The Manhattan SWs are at the 20's and Lex.
I've heard AC is like Boston used to be back in the day. Can anyone confirm this? Might be worth a trip. ;)
Thanks for the info guys.
LC
Bill Buxton
04-29-06, 15:10
I was a frequent visitor of the point. The area will be looked at as a land time forgot and the locals can scare the witts out of anyone.The people there would steal the balls off a dead monkey if given the chance. The girls are all within a one mile area around the produce mkt. The main street leading to the market will be littered with gals and the side streets are the parking areas of the customers. You should watch your personal things there also do not forget that anything left in the open will be fair game for the trols in this area.
The gals will have you pull over anywhere off the beaten path to do the deal. So don't be shy if you are getting serviced and someone drives by or walks by.The local people see this stuff all the time and it is nothing new to this area seeing a person getting serviced here.Get off the bruckner blv. exit and follow the signs for Hunts Point you will be in the area and see the gals if there are any still there.
3-4 years ago there were 40-50 girls just like on the tv show working there any given night. They were all shapes and sizes from 9pm until dawn. And even in the daytime there were some great finds.
Play very safe in the Bronx. B.B...
I've never been to Hunt's Point before but the whole HBO Hooker series seems to portray the scene as some comic 70's blaxpoltation thing. They seem to go out of their way to find the fugliest SW's they can possible round up. Including the WSW snaggle tooth that showed up in two of the shows. Any hot looking girls from the background street scene are panned by in about .5 seconds so they can concentrate on the fuglies. There is no play on two key staples of SW life - 90% of the girls are out there because they were abused as kids and the pimps. The whole series is skewed and useless, docudrama media crap.
HBO, has done many specials about Hunts Point, and Atlantic City.
On one special from Atlantic City, HBO, showed how many of the hookers were men dressed as women.
Most all would not do bbbj all wanted cover.
70% were black
20% latin
10% white
Phat Bastard
04-30-06, 10:11
I've never been to Hunt's Point before but the whole HBO Hooker series seems to portray the scene as some comic 70's blaxpoltation thing. They seem to go out of their way to find the fugliest SW's they can possible round up. Including the WSW snaggle tooth that showed up in two of the shows. Any hot looking girls from the background street scene are panned by in about .5 seconds so they can concentrate on the fuglies. There is no play on two key staples of SW life - 90% of the girls are out there because they were abused as kids and the pimps. The whole series is skewed and useless, docudrama media crap.
I couldn't have said it better.
They focused on hags that I wouldn't pick up no matter how drunk/horny/desperate/lonely/comatose/hypnotized or temporarily insane I was.
They're exactly the kind of girls we warn each other away from via this board because of bad service, upselling, don't touch rules, trying to get you to hurry or finish yourself off etc.
They picked out and highlighted the extreme worst examples they could find and put them forth as examples of the norm.
Both shows were just shit.
LoveLatin05
05-02-06, 19:58
The streets is not looking good these days, lucky I have a BSW regular. She's not in the game anymore, but she still does weekly sometimes bi-weekly specials 4 me.
Member #6039
05-03-06, 16:28
Many people coming to Boston, stay in Burlington,Braintree,etc and think it's Boston.
Where in Boston will you be staying?
If a major hotel, go to the bar and she will find you $150---$300
I often go to hotel bars in Boston and have yet to see any girls who approached me. That is not to say that I have not been suspicious that some of the gals were "working". I like the idea because one can talk to the girl for a little while before heading off for sex. This means that you don't end up paying for the talk time!
Any suggestions on a good hotel bar to meet some nice working girls?
A wonderful thing happened today. Kathleen O'Toole left the BPD. Why is it important? this Irish Catholic woman has made it a personal goal to eradicate the streets of every working girl while allowing the cities murder rate and other violent crimes to skyrocket.
The worst part is that her biggest argument with the Mayor is that she doesn't have enough offices on the street! Are you kidding! The streets have never been more heavily patrolled. The fear that some crack ho is making a quick $30 giving head calls for the need of several cruisers constantly patrolling. Of course the cops that patrol don't care, it's easy duty for them and as long as their boss thinks that the worst crime is a girl plying her wares, who is he to argue?
All I can hope, for every citizen of Boston is that the next Police Commissioner concentates on serious crime, of the violent nature and stops spending all their departments resources on forwarding their personal moral adgenda.
Things are looking up. Good riddance to Kate.
Boston Monger
05-10-06, 09:32
It will continue as is because of the philosophy of "take care of the little things, and the big things will follow". It started out in NYC with graffitti, broken windows, panhandlers, etc. It then spread to Boston where it was applied to SW's. Until LE lets go of it's grip on CT, the drought will go on.
A wonderful thing happened today. Kathleen O'Toole left the BPD. Why is it important? this Irish Catholic woman has made it a personal goal to eradicate the streets of every working girl while allowing the cities murder rate and other violent crimes to skyrocket.
The worst part is that her biggest argument with the Mayor is that she doesn't have enough offices on the street! Are you kidding! The streets have never been more heavily patrolled. The fear that some crack ho is making a quick $30 giving head calls for the need of several cruisers constantly patrolling. Of course the cops that patrol don't care, it's easy duty for them and as long as their boss thinks that the worst crime is a girl plying her wares, who is he to argue?
All I can hope, for every citizen of Boston is that the next Police Commissioner concentates on serious crime, of the violent nature and stops spending all their departments resources on forwarding their personal moral adgenda.
Things are looking up. Good riddance to Kate.
Boston Monger
05-10-06, 09:34
I had friend stay there and he said there were two in the lounge every night. He had to stay there for two weeks
I often go to hotel bars in Boston and have yet to see any girls who approached me. That is not to say that I have not been suspicious that some of the gals were "working". I like the idea because one can talk to the girl for a little while before heading off for sex. This means that you don't end up paying for the talk time!
Any suggestions on a good hotel bar to meet some nice working girls?
Re: the aptly-named O' Toole, I'd a thunk that the pressure on the street scene would have rolled the usual suspects out into the surrounding towns but even in the nicer days we've had, the pickings have been mighty slim all over. When I say all over I'm talking about Chelsea, Eastie, Lynn, etc. It even used to be that when the heat was on in Boston proper the girls would hitch a ride up to Lowell and work up there for a few days. I sort of used to look forward to Operation Squeeze deals because it always meant that the pickings up Route 3 in Lowell would pick up. Proximity to the commuter rail maybe?
Fuck, I'm rambling. I really do need to get laid. Lol.
Boston Monger
05-10-06, 13:12
you are 100% right. In fact, in both Lawrence & Lowell, I knew SW's who did just that: grabbed the commuter rail for the day.
we just need the hot weather. We are still heating our homes at night gents. Once the temps push up, things will heat up.
Bill Buxton
05-11-06, 10:44
I was reading on the Baltimore board about a guy that did a dom show with a sw and he posted some pics of the end result. The pics show many bruses and some road rash as a result of the fun he had with her. The problem there is that the girl COULD, give him or you or anyone a problem after the fact as a result of the ass woopin she got.
THINK !!!!!!
Before any gal talks you into any physical,or illegal things that might come back to you ten fold please Think about down the road.Never put yourself in a position to get into any trouble with a gal on the street, over and above the mongering thing you might be doing.The taking her to get things or stopping to get a friend, they know all the tricks to jse and jam us up!This thing is just the kind of problem that can destroy a family ruen a good life for a good person because some gal might WANT OR LIKE to go beyond what some might call improper conduct. It also "IMHO" BRINGS A BAD LIGHT TO A BOARD THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT CALL "GOOD TO BEGIN WITH" All in all it is my Opinion only and I just wanted to direct you to read and make up your own minds about this subject.
I know we have all had some interesting things happen to us out there on the track. But who wants to "TRY" to quell a problem that goes past a he said she said situation and is givven merrit by pics of a gals betten up ass.You never know whats going through the heads of these gals, they will try anything to get what they want. You all have had some things go on with you if you have ben out and about on the tracks around the area. Its one thing to give out a jackson to get a girl out of your ride, and another thing to have a gal with an ass that would not want to see a chair to sit in for a month.
This is just a heads up, and not an attempt to judge anyone. Just a friendly reminder that in the world everyone can be accused of anything and it's up to you to prove that it was different than what they say you did.And I know after they take the side of the girl or person with that kind of proof you ARE GUILTY UNTIL YOUR LAWYER GETS THE JUDGE TO RULE IN YOUR FAVOR.The cops do there job they investigate the problem, And they come question you about it. Your wife or family finds out, your boss finds out, your friend find out, or if you have a goverment job you may or may not have the job to go back to until after the investigation is over.And after if the judge or DA will not push the issue you still have the stink of the alligation left all over you. THINK, THINK, THINK, ROLL THE DICE.YOU MIGHT LOOSE EVERYTHING OVER A SIMPLE FUE MINUTES OF FUN YOU THOUGHT YOU BOTH WERE HAVING.
THINK MORE AND PLAY SAFER, B.B...
USASexguide now has a chatroom!. Type till you fingers bleed! :D
Phat Bastard
05-12-06, 06:42
I was reading on the Baltimore board about a guy that did a dom show with a sw and he posted some pics of the end result. The pics show many bruses and some road rash as a result of the fun he had with her. The problem there is that the girl COULD, give him or you or anyone a problem after the fact as a result of the ass woopin she got.
THINK !!!!!!
Before any gal talks you into any physical,or illegal things that might come back to you ten fold please Think about down the road.Never put yourself in a position to get into any trouble with a gal on the street, over and above the mongering thing you might be doing.The taking her to get things or stopping to get a friend, they know all the tricks to jse and jam us up!This thing is just the kind of problem that can destroy a family ruen a good life for a good person because some gal might WANT OR LIKE to go beyond what some might call improper conduct. It also "IMHO" BRINGS A BAD LIGHT TO A BOARD THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT CALL "GOOD TO BEGIN WITH" All in all it is my Opinion only and I just wanted to direct you to read and make up your own minds about this subject.
I know we have all had some interesting things happen to us out there on the track. But who wants to "TRY" to quell a problem that goes past a he said she said situation and is givven merrit by pics of a gals betten up ass.You never know whats going through the heads of these gals, they will try anything to get what they want. You all have had some things go on with you if you have ben out and about on the tracks around the area. Its one thing to give out a jackson to get a girl out of your ride, and another thing to have a gal with an ass that would not want to see a chair to sit in for a month.
This is just a heads up, and not an attempt to judge anyone. Just a friendly reminder that in the world everyone can be accused of anything and it's up to you to prove that it was different than what they say you did.And I know after they take the side of the girl or person with that kind of proof you ARE GUILTY UNTIL YOUR LAWYER GETS THE JUDGE TO RULE IN YOUR FAVOR.The cops do there job they investigate the problem, And they come question you about it. Your wife or family finds out, your boss finds out, your friend find out, or if you have a goverment job you may or may not have the job to go back to until after the investigation is over.And after if the judge or DA will not push the issue you still have the stink of the alligation left all over you. THINK, THINK, THINK, ROLL THE DICE.YOU MIGHT LOOSE EVERYTHING OVER A SIMPLE FUE MINUTES OF FUN YOU THOUGHT YOU BOTH WERE HAVING.
THINK MORE AND PLAY SAFER, B.B...
I noticed.
I'm one of the few on the board that called him on his "kink" of beating a woman until she's bruised and bloody.
But I didn't do it to protect him from himself, I did it because he's a piece of shit who enjoys beating women .
But that is excellent advice though:)
Bill Buxton
05-12-06, 06:59
some people think that this board is about just the location the money and how many times you can get it up.THats wrong, its about information. If my info keeps the people here from gettin into a problem thats the reason I will type till my fingers bleed.The international board here is just about info and there are many reports long in length so get over yourself.Post something other than your .2 bbbj in the alley on BHA.There are many guys here that have never hit the streets much and should not be talked into any problems.After all the gals bat there eyes, and smile, and thats how they talk even the most seasoned monger to do things he has never done before.These girls here could not hold a candle to the asain gals Scamming guys out of money.They are 100% smarter and have better skills there for getting your money.Where there is a will there is a way so stay sharp, and read all the info you can. After all someday My chat room style might keep you from your name being in the paper.
I would like to thank Jackson for giving us a place to air our info both here and around the world.God knows after many hours of reading on the international side I got well seasoned for my 6 months overseas.Did it help?yes, should you use this as a guide, as a tool for good info, you bet.From whooowas to hotels it's all here.
BE SMART, PLAY SAFE, B.B...
Bill Buxton
05-12-06, 07:49
USASexguide now has a chatroom!. Type till you fingers bleed! :D
It's all about info get all the information you can.
Bill Buxton
05-12-06, 18:22
I hit the streets starting in The sinn city.At 10am I had my first scoop and she was a 6-7 on the scale.I no sooner got in traffic and she wanted me to give the feel test on her she opened her jacket and pulled up her shirt.After she lifted her top a bundle of kleen-x fell out and what was inside was anybodys guess?The only thing I knew was this shit is not gonna happen here today so I pulled over and let her out.
Round 2.
I hit Lowell and found nadda, only lots of LE, and thats not my kinda thing so headed out of there.
Round 3.
Hit the streets of Lawrence and after a 40 min. tour spotted a good looking gal by MB by the projects walking down the street.Cali was the name she gave me and she wanted a ride,so off we went.Not only us but some other interesting people in tow.I spotted a car with 2 guys in it following us to the broadway light, so over the bridge we went for a coffe.At the DD we got out only to have a nasty old chevy impala park beside us with 2 more guys in it.They called me over and I asked what do you want u lost?That started some shit,they said after showing me some tin that I was the one that must be lost.I said not me, I was getting a coffee with an old frend.
They started with the 20 questions and pulled her aside and was getting all over her shit.After a check of my paperwork they advised me that there were many other places to get coffee in this state and if I had no good reason to be in this city it would be better if I was somewhere else.So after getting the beverages we headed out of town with the 2 mopes from the first car following us.
We hit the highway and got off did the deal and I headed back with her going into the city in another direction.After letting her out I said to myself this is it for a while!!The risk aint worth the prize of going to the crowbar Hilton.Funk this I gotta let the weather bring out the 30-4- gals per city so they will not watch the one they think might be trickin.
GONNA REST UP HIT THINGS WHEN IT WARMS.
Play Much Safer, B.B...
LoveLatin05
05-12-06, 19:45
Why does it seem like every time, they show a hooker in a police station
1. She would be a crack head
2. She would be a junkie
3. Un touch able
4. Repeat 1-3
With this bad image, no wonder why people, look down upon hoes and hunters. But finally I seen a due-able hoe on CSI last night. None the least she was a 5g hoe. LOL. The irony.
Bill Buxton, I PM you a few times. Not sure if your getting it or just dont wanna respond.
Reading your encounter with LE who stopped you without due cause sounds JUST like what is happening in Cincinnati, where cops may stop you if they recognize the SW in your car:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=427674&postcount=95
The general sentiment is that picking up a person on the street is NOT a violation of any law, even if she IS a known SW... But what monger wants to skate out on that thin ice to argue with LE about the validity of the stop. I have heard that course of action being proposed...
I too took a brief hiatus from mongering after that scare. One take home lesson is to pick up and dash out of the neighborhood before being spotted. For novice mongers, here is a set of 13 rules I have developed which will help avoid mongering pitfalls...
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=435187&postcount=148
be safe,
Giani
...
Round 3.
Hit the streets of Lawrence and after a 40 min. tour spotted a good looking gal by MB by the projects walking down the street.Cali was the name she gave me and she wanted a ride,so off we went.Not only us but some other interesting people in tow.I spotted a car with 2 guys in it following us to the broadway light, so over the bridge we went for a coffe.At the DD we got out only to have a nasty old chevy impala park beside us with 2 more guys in it.They called me over and I asked what do you want u lost?That started some shit,they said after showing me some tin that I was the one that must be lost.I said not me, I was getting a coffee with an old frend.
They started with the 20 questions and pulled her aside and was getting all over her shit.After a check of my paperwork they advised me that there were many other places to get coffee in this state and if I had no good reason to be in this city it would be better if I was somewhere else.So after getting the beverages we headed out of town with the 2 mopes from the first car following us.
We hit the highway and got off did the deal and I headed back with her going into the city in another direction.After letting her out I said to myself this is it for a while!!The risk aint worth the prize of going to the crowbar Hilton.Funk this I gotta let the weather bring out the 30-4- gals per city so they will not watch the one they think might be trickin.
GONNA REST UP HIT THINGS WHEN IT WARMS.
Play Much Safer, B.B...
Bill Buxton
05-13-06, 10:28
The Piece of SH.. Cop said to me some very bad things and asked me if I have ever ben arrested.My reply was NO, NEVER.He said there is a first time fore everything and I said nothing. "THE ONLY THING YOU GET FOR HAVING A BEEF WITH LE IS MORE TROUBLE"Just let the assh****say what they want do there thang and get out of there fast.
They use this board now to track and trace the steps we walk to there advantage, never forget that.Just keep your mouth shut!don't let the mope see that he has you flustered and this will make him even madder and not jam You up even more.They do know the girls and are allways looking for new gals that might be working the area.
Play Smart, Play Safer.B.B...
And a certain one continues to be a bullshit artist..fuck him. Get off my dick biatch!. I've been a member of this board for 5 years and Everything I post is bonafide. From Boston to Bangkok to Buriuram to Bali...yeah and even a back alley.
I could run circles around em..but why waste my time with a quote stealing post whoore??!!
Meatman
Oh, underground strip club is opening soon guys. I will fill you in on the details.:D
Bill Buxton
05-14-06, 10:03
Sounds like someone has a problem,what a shame.If someones not happy than turn your head and go on,"LET THEM EAT CAKE" "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"LET FREEDOM RING. LET FREEDOM RING.GREAT GOD ALMIGHTY, LETFREEDOM RING."And here is one more Original from the archives of the world famous WILLIAM LUTHER BUXTON.
QUOTE; "LOVE GOES WHERE IT'S SENT,EVEN IF ITS UP A COWS ASS!!!"
Now its off to KFC,all this work made me hungry.
Play Safe, B.B...
Ya know Billie Jean? your a Bytch.
A few here would know firsthand and forgive me if my presumption faults my judgement, but this little blurb might be read as some sort of threat in the real world, no?
Well, the real world is right here, too, and I'm gonna talk some shit. Just this one time.
I've figured out where you were headed with your lame assed attack against me and I know where you've gotten -- on my shit list. You've turned a little bitchy assed whine into a trollfest, with more insecurity and fear permeating your post than a prom night conversation. Do me a favor - shut the fuck up.
Every attempt you've made to rebuke a slam against me is a rewording of the last, and they all reek of incompetence. Incompetence at intellectual argument, Incompetence at logic..... And frankly? Incompetence at flattery. Christ, you can't even kiss ass without fucking that up.
And as for talking up your "so-called" badass self in corporeality, keep that badass talk going....No one really gives a flying fuck. Your still a bytch...A Bonafide bytch at that :)
MeatMan
Bostonsailor
05-14-06, 14:53
Why dont you two take your arguments to another board, I for one am getting tired of the ranting going on. Both of you senior members have quite a few posts to your credit, whether they are B.S or not.
So What!
Stop slamming each other and get back to the game. This board is supposed to be about our SW experiences, which over the past few months have been few and far between.
LoveLatin05
05-14-06, 20:00
I just got a new cam, just need to find a sw to take some pics. I think the Boston forum lack pics, therefore im going to start posting some.
Anyone went to the chat room yet? Maybe the old wsg yahoo member can meet up, AND the new members can also join.
Lets pick a date
Bill Buxton
05-15-06, 00:55
The days of driving around the states and getting a great deal on a working gal are at a slow and almost stop pace.The cops are reading this board for intel the people around the neighborhoods are getting tired of seeing the blue,blk,red car going around and around looking for some Pussy.Things are changing everywhere and so am I.It was fun here 2-3 years back to go out day or night and get a gal anywhere and get a service job from her for .2.3 bucks.Did I enjoy it? more than most whole families!But now it is not worth the effort or the risk,or the danger to yourself.
The gals are crazy, the cops want another stripe so they pick on everyone.The gas is 3 fucking dollors a gallon and bail to get out of a jam must be expensive also.Lawyers at 2-3 hundred an hour, are the worst ****** there are in the world.Also who knows who you are giving out info too anymore.A guy sends a pm and you return a number to him and what happens if he gets in a jam??????He will tell you it's your fault or you might feel it is because of you he gets wrecked.Not a good feeling.The times are changing here and everyone has to be careful about what he is up to.Choices are made and end results are the difference between your name in the papper or a good nights sleep.Find a gal and get a number good or bad if the service is good and she lets you keep your wallet that is a keeper in my book.See her when you can and wait until the streets come back to life here if the ever do.
Cameras and cops yeald many more busts and are harder to stay away from today than they were 2-3 or 10 years ago.They stop you and run you out of town for crusing around now not like before.The gals have drug problems and will do or say anything to stay out of the can.They will drop shit on your floor and give you up at the first sign of trouble,THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS.
I will allways stay here and give out info to everyone but the days of on tour for me are over.I will go to asia where the gals are better and much cheeper before I get in a problem here riding through 3-4 cities for 7-9 hours in the middle of the night.Gas alone is 50-80- dollars for the night thats a 2girl all night thing overseas and the service is 1000%better than anything I ever had here.I will look and see what's up often here but it's not worth the risk to waste the time and money trying to find a skank on the street for a 10 minute quickey in the back seat.And if you think I am gonna walk around some of the darker neighborhoods looking for a score and wind up on a slabb that is not in any of the cards.
Keep posting never give up and get all you can.You gotta PLAY BIG TO WINN BIG,never forget that but this shit is not worth the end result anymore around here.
BE SMART,PLAY SAFE. B.B...
Member #1705
05-15-06, 08:32
I agree with Bill. I went back to escorts. More money, less agrivation. Visiting Girlfriends $250 for gf experience with a beautiful girl.
Just Me 69
05-15-06, 09:22
Even with gas at $3.00 a gallon, which I think is cheap compared to beer, wine, whiskey, milk, perfume, after shave, shampoo, etc.
I personally will not pay 250 for one hour, not that I'm saying you should not.
Everyone can do what they want, if Bill wants to retire , he should.
I have mongered longer than most have lived on these pages.
I enjoy the hunt as much as the finish.
23 miles to the gallon, at most I will travel 70 miles for a day $9 for gas.
If you know the area really good, then you will know where to park your car, and wait, sip your coffee, read your newspaper, john law will ride past you and never bother you.
The girls know who is who and they will walk up to you and the deed is going to be done.
Not everyone with a gun is a hunter, some hunt and others run around in circles.
Learn to hunt, save mileage and enjoy the game
Bill Buxton
05-15-06, 10:13
You are right about running around and some do. The thing is as I say I travel 100 miles to monger in your area. And REtire not me but no more running around all hours of the night and being spotted with out of state plates.The bean has never stopped me for anything, but other areas are not true to that statement.We will all Have to find better ways to work our magic is what I was trying to say.Gas is expensive,but we have to pay to play.
The quality now is low in general and yes the other boards are saying the same things about LE problems not just around here.If gas goes to 4-5 dollars pg we have to have it so why *****.I will never give up on getting a score when I am in the areas of the pay for play.I will never stop looking or giving out good contact info when I have it.I passed out info a week ago on a gal from the bean only for the member to tell me after he spoke with her and she will not see him because of a refural.The smart girls are getting smarter also.Times are changing and we have to change with them if we are gonna stay on top of our game also.
PLAY SAFER ,THINK SMARTER. W.L.B...
I'm one of those guys who actually enjoys the hunt, and will take a 6 or 7 sw over an 8 or 9 escort most days and not for the sake of saving money. I know, it's getting harder to find satisfaction in this hobby but old habits die hard. I don't bother anyone (don't litter, don't park in neighborhoods, don't knowingly bother non-sw's, generally stay out of the way) and don't give my busienss to the louder screaming and troublesome sw's.
Where possible I use phone numbers to save time, but as we all know most girls can't seem to keep a number live for more than a week or two. Still, if I'm mongering away from home on business I'll do my homework and try to get a referral number from this board and will come away happy about half the time (Bill, I have a Portland number for you if you want it).
Where I used to cruise and score 2 - 3 times a week in my heyday, I'm down to once every couple of months, and not for economy. I'm getting it pretty good at home and I'm just super busy with work. It kind of makes me value the times I do score a little more, too. The price of gas and pussy sure is higher than it used to be but for the amout of time I put into it I can swing it. I have no problem with paying the $2 - $3 for an escort or hotel girl either, but I just find the gritty street flavor more fun than the all business escort. And like I said, I fucking love the hunt!
On the chat room, I've tried it out and I say hats off to Jackson for this feature. I hope more New England area guys start using it. Now if only he'd add a Grudge Match room for the Meat and Bil Bux!
Bill Buxton
05-15-06, 12:06
That is good info from a straight shooter.That AUTO, he and I have traded info on several gals and in different areas.I hope the good times are on there way back.Thats a good thought me and the meat head our own little deal well sounds good to me.
B.B...
Originally Posted by Bill Buxton
fuck you nigga
you are a nigga and will never be anything but I speek for many here.They need the board I do not.So keep talking your shit If I ever have the chance to meet you I will I would like to see what a famous black man looks like. HAHAHA You are a true zero.Have a nice life BLACK BOY.yOU WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN YOU ARE NOW, OR EVER. BLACK,BLACK BLACK, AND THAT DON'T ADD UP TO MUCH
This was sent VIA private message.
Not to get in the middle of a good pissing contest, but that's just not right Bill. I have yet to see anyone here but you that has a problem with Meat and his posts, in fact it's just the opposite. If you have a problem with someone so be it, but to bring race into it to support your arument is 100% wrong here.
Meat, I'm about as white as they come an I have no problem saying that you're welcome to sit at my table anytime. Brothers in arms.
It's sad to see it come to this guys.
Bill Buxton
05-17-06, 08:58
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any racist attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another forum member or to the public in general.
Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports deleted for posting racist comments will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.
1 down, 2 to go
Will somebody please report this guy's next racist comment via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.
Thanks,
Jackson
Boston Monger
05-17-06, 09:05
why the personal attack BB? I have always thought you were full of sh*t from day one, but you are amusing. Talk about "useless" information, your fantasies about picking up SW's not only are ludicris, but dangerous. More than one time you spun tales of phantom encounters which probably drew mongers into non-productive, isolated areas. MM gives us the skinny on an area I wish I could frequant and he is backed up by LE and newspaper reports. As far as insulting his intelligence, MM writes coherent posts UNLIKE the garble you cobble together.
There are some uneducated, ignorant people who make hurtful statements
about race, color, religion. These are the worst of humankind - not blacks,whites or jews or muslims.
By saying irresponsible things, they are not only inciting hatred but may also bring about some racial tension to innocent people......but then, maybe they are not fully developed 'human' beings?
Unfortunately, Someone did not read the rules:
No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member.
No Trolling: Please do not post any topic that disrupts the peace and harmony of this board. Don't create meaningless threads with the sole purpose of starting a dispute.
P.S. Thanks Auto :)
Folks, what you see in BB is an unstable man who is clearly drifting into a meltdown. Very emotional. Very two faced, even under the anonymity of the internet. Wouldn't be shocked if he isn't into pedophilia. It fits the mold cleanly.
Take heed, and if you are wise, distance yourself from him.
Meat - hang in there, man. He's nothing but midmay entertainment, as far as I am concerned. Cause according to this ignorant fool, Us dum' nigz canz spEEks rite, sez massuh Buckstooon.
Personally, I have no problem with racists. Its fun watching their fear play itself out before me like human waste spinning around in a flushing toilet. When they are done...you never have to face the same one twice.
Bill Buxton
05-17-06, 10:54
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Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports deleted for posting racist comments will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.
2 down, only 1 to go
Will somebody please report this guy's next racist comment to me via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 3rd violation.
Thanks,
Jackson
Member #4862
05-17-06, 14:51
I've done as much searching as I can and I can't seem to locate the main stroll in downtown Chelsea. What are the streets/blocks? Best times? Also, I've never seen a single thing in the PA.
Boston Monger
05-17-06, 15:35
that and "Hotel Stanley"
times vary.
I'd say late
I've done as much searching as I can and I can't seem to locate the main stroll in downtown Chelsea. What are the streets/blocks? Best times? Also, I've never seen a single thing in the PA.
Just Me 69
05-17-06, 15:36
Circle the hotel downtown, circle the Dunkin Donuts downtown, go slow past the bus stop, under the bridge.
Bus stop across from roast beef joint.
4am-6am
Noon
11pm-1am
Produce area is a joke, no one there unless you find one coming out of KA.
Phat Bastard
05-17-06, 20:55
Originally Posted by Bill Buxton
This was sent VIA private message.
Wow, that's fucked up.
I saw BB's anger toward you building but I thought it was maybe some dispute you two had from when he used to participate here before I was a member.
Then I saw the subtle KFC remark and had a feeling where this was going and sure enough, that's where it went.
I didn't speak up before because like I said, I figured you two had a past that I didn't know about but from what I can see you did nothing wrong and even took the high road when I may not have myself.
I'm with ya man.
Phat Bastard
05-17-06, 21:03
i've done as much searching as i can and i can't seem to locate the main stroll in downtown chelsea. what are the streets/blocks? best times? also, i've never seen a single thing in the pa.
i know this is vague but under the bridge, near the up ramp that leads toward boston there's a sheltered bus stop on the corner of the road that leads past polcaris and into everett. and like bm said, think "roast beef".
i've found them there at night, 10, maybe 11 o'clock.
don't confuse sw's with the young and even **** girls who live in the area or are actually waiting for a bus.
in that neighborhood a mistake like that can get you killed.
ms-13, la mara salvatrucha is pretty active up that way.
Member #4196
05-18-06, 07:53
Wow, that's fucked up.
I saw BB's anger toward you building but I thought it was maybe some dispute you two had from when he used to participate here before I was a member.
Then I saw the subtle KFC remark and had a feeling where this was going and sure enough, that's where it went.
I didn't speak up before because like I said, I figured you two had a past that I didn't know about but from what I can see you did nothing wrong and even took the high road when I may not have myself.
I'm with ya man.
I will not stoop to a BB level, but one of the main reasons that I dropped off the posting was when he showed my post on here to a provider via his account about her performance"which by the way was really good". She even PM'ed me from his screen name telling me never to call her agin beacuse I told "details" about her.
I always believed he was more fiction than fact but he crossed the line with his latest barrage. His fiction doesn't even provide to be humorous at all.
Like they say..every dog will have his day and I think BB had his.
Take care and stay safe...OR
Coast Hog and my fellow mongers, He showed his true colors and got pounded like a sack of beef. Lets just move on guys
Regarding the undeground strip club I mentioned a few days ago, I made a call to a friend around 8PM yesterday to get an update. From what I was told, still nothing had been definite as planned nor a location. I gone by the assumption that there was going to be one in Boston, but there's a change of location now.
Again, as aggrivating as it sounds, I will fill you in on details.
MeatMan
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