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I would agree with you on this one. Jill is way cuter in person. I know her and her husband Dave and he is one lucky guy. Jill is much more petite in person. Something about KITV that makes their head look bigger than they are. Maybe the angle or wide angle lenses. Just look what it did to Justin.KITV broadcast is very poor quality. It would not surprise me if it was distorted. KHNL / KGMB (same station) have "exceptional" broadcast quality.
Lowlys One
10-17-11, 03:00
KITV broadcast is very poor quality. It would not surprise me if it was distorted. KHNL / KGMB (same station) have "exceptional" broadcast quality.Prolly a taste in lighting.
Vietnamese woman cuts off Taiwan husband's penis. Crazy.
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Member #3994
10-17-11, 13:38
Sorry, had to add my 2 cents on this one. While I agree she is attractive physically, I am totally put off by her nose in the air personality. A while back I sat next to her at a wedding, she was dating a former classmate of mine. I had just moved back from the mainland and didn't know who she was, and was making small talk with her. At first was pleasant, then when I asked her what she does for a living, she said to me in a very curt way,"I guess you don't watch the news." WTF! Wasn't even in a joking tone of voice. End of conversation. Ever since then I have a hard time looking at her in a positive way. One of the other guests at the table commented to me later about her attitude as well. Maybe just a bad day, but wow!
Prolly a taste in lighting.Yeah saw JK in person a while ago, way cuter in person, really petite. SO is a lucky guy. Saw Linda or Laura Yamada at Lowes over the weekend, forget her first name but she is on at night with Paula Akana. Hardly any makeup on, looked pretty good, healthy legs, firm. Little small on top but wouldn't kick her outa bed for sure. She was with her SO buying stuff.
Prolly a taste in lighting.Maybe that too, but I was referring more to the pixel quality on the screen. KITV's HD broadcast seems to be blurry, while 7/8's are razor sharp. They probably haven't invested in proper HD cams yet and are still recording in SD, but blowing it up to and broadcasting in HD. KHON hasn't even gone that far. They are still in SD all the way.
Cheehoo808
10-17-11, 17:33
Give me Merlinda Garma of Hawaii Skindiver. Anyone got any dirt on her? I'd Ronnie Lott my right pinkie to have a night with her. Dayammmmmm.
I'm totally smitten with her and have been since I first saw the show 6 or 7 years ago.Went to HS with her, she's all high "maks" now. My friend went out with her throughout and banged her a lot. I could have had her but I didn't go through with it. To me I would bang her, but her personality just turns me off.
Slide Hammer
10-17-11, 17:53
Went to HS with her, she's all high "maks" now. My friend went out with her throughout and banged her a lot. I could have had her but I didn't go through with it. To me I would bang her, but her personality just turns me off.Sorry, kamaaina now but still a tourist at heart since I moved here 7 years ago. All high maks means makamaka I take it.
Too bad.
any providers or amp-s with a girl who resembles or are in the same class? TIA
Sorry, had to add my 2 cents on this one. While I agree she is attractive physically, I am totally put off by her nose in the air personality. A while back I sat next to her at a wedding, she was dating a former classmate of mine. I had just moved back from the mainland and didn't know who she was, and was making small talk with her. At first was pleasant, then when I asked her what she does for a living, she said to me in a very curt way,"I guess you don't watch the news." WTF! Wasn't even in a joking tone of voice. End of conversation. Ever since then I have a hard time looking at her in a positive way. One of the other guests at the table commented to me later about her attitude as well. Maybe just a bad day, but wow!I can understand JK. At times she is high makemak. Since the type of work I did involved the local TV stations back in the day, got to know of few of the personalities pretty good. Personalities galore, from the conservative to party extremes. Dated a few, but if for those that go back that far, was together with Mary Zanakis for a few yrs. She was a damn good reporter, but got fk'd (from her station at the time bc, male dominance/$$$) She was a good bang, but alas, went our sep ways. It is a rough business for females, and I know of a few who used their cookies to move up to the chair. Oh well, good to relive back in the day.
Definitely not married!You better check your sources. Just talked to her last week and unless she was bullshitting me about being married and preggo, I think she would know best
I am hearing hookers from the west coast will be pouring in during APEC. They know these govt security types and so forth will be on expense accounts so their own cash will be plentiful!
OralConniseur
10-18-11, 22:43
I think Trini is looking really good. I would love to taste her.
OC
OralConniseur
10-18-11, 22:46
I saw Moani and Jasmine Yar (?) this morning and they look really nice. I like Jasmine's long legs and could see it wrapped around my neck; and Moani has a spinner body that I would love to ride.
OC
Looks like a bit of hard times ahead for mongers. I heard security zones will extend as far as Sheridan St. Not confirmed, but what I heard from a reliable source.
I heard security zones will extend as far as Sheridan St. Not confirmed.Good warning even if unconfirmed. Security zones are extensive and all activities within are scrutinized to the max. Even the HPD DUI crew will follow you for more than a mile to get a probable cause.
Honolulu Yobo
10-21-11, 11:05
I am hearing hookers from the west coast will be pouring in during APEC. They know these govt security types and so forth will be on expense accounts so their own cash will be plentiful!All the Federales that will be here for the conference will be getting $90+ for food and amenities, so they will be amply supplied when they are here. No only that, they will be staying in the best hotels too.
All the Federales that will be here for the conference will be getting $90+ for food and amenities, so they will be amply supplied when they are here. No only that, they will be staying in the best hotels too.Cruising through waikiki the other night, you can see a lot more s. W. Activity along kuhio ave. Looks like the mainland girls are already here, establishing their 'spots'.
Lowlys One
10-21-11, 13:25
Looks like a bit of hard times ahead for mongers. I heard security zones will extend as far as Sheridan St. Not confirmed, but what I heard from a reliable source.Yeah not only that but they're actually putting an off limits on all harbors fronting Waikiki and alamoana, they even posted signs saying we can't surf Bowls, Kaiser's area, unless what I read was incorrect, WTF! Maybe I'm guilty of being a little self centered here but this apec thing should just go elsewhere it's already a headache and they haven't even arrived yet. I can't surf my beach, how the hell are they going to pull that off?
Yeah not only that but they're actually putting an off limits on all harbors fronting Waikiki and alamoana, they even posted signs saying we can't surf Bowls, Kaiser's area, unless what I read was incorrect, WTF! Maybe I'm guilty of being a little self centered here but this apec thing should just go elsewhere it's already a headache and they haven't even arrived yet. I can't surf my beach, how the hell are they going to pull that off?It'll be interesting to see if it really brings a boon to the local economy. I really don't see how it could do much. Especially the business in and around that area that will be off-limits or very hard to get to.
Lowlys One
10-21-11, 17:49
It'll be interesting to see if it really brings a boon to the local economy. I really don't see how it could do much. Especially the business in and around that area that will be off-limits or very hard to get to.Does anyone know how much people were expecting to host, or is it the state will benefit from the exposure worldwide and thus no one know for sure how much of a boost our economy will have?
Does anyone know how much people were expecting to host, or is it the state will benefit from the exposure worldwide and thus no one know for sure how much of a boost our economy will have?What gets me is that they are planting all these palm and coconut trees along Nimits Hwy. These trees have shallow roots so can you imagine the next high wind or hurricane we get. What about when the coconuts start forming. How many lanes will close for the land scaper to cut the nuts and old leaves off? DUH!
Does anyone know how much people were expecting to host, or is it the state will benefit from the exposure worldwide and thus no one know for sure how much of a boost our economy will have?Somewhere areound 20, 000 attendees.
Lowlys One
10-22-11, 01:53
Somewhere areound 20, 000 attendees.Wo, I guess it really will impact the state. I'll reluctantly give up a week or two of surfing my local break, for the good of all I guess.
Wo, I guess it really will impact the state. I'll reluctantly give up a week or two of surfing my local break, for the good of all I guess.APEC is also projected to bring in $120 million. GE tax on that is roughly $5 million, but don't forget the 11% transient accommodations tax on the hotel rooms.
APEC is also projected to bring in $120 million. GE tax on that is roughly $5 million, but don't forget the 11% transient accommodations tax on the hotel rooms.Foreign Diplomats don't pay taxes on goods.
What gets me is that they are planting all these palm and coconut trees along Nimits Hwy. These trees have shallow roots so can you imagine the next high wind or hurricane we get. What about when the coconuts start forming. How many lanes will close for the land scaper to cut the nuts and old leaves off? DUH!I don't recall seeing any coconut trees. I think those are all royal palms or similar so you don't have to worry about your nuts.
Lowlys One
10-23-11, 00:47
I don't recall seeing any coconut trees. I think those are all royal palms or similar so you don't have to worry about your nuts.Yeah they are palm trees I drive past them working everyday almost, these tree have no nut, but what I trip out on is the amount we're spending to beautify this highway so the foriegners can look at palm trees on their way to and from the airport. If it wasn't a big enough reason to make the place look nice before for all to enjoy the the hell now? It's not like these foreigners are going to say "OMG, Nimitz looks terrible, let's have our meeting on Guam"!
Little Dickie
10-23-11, 02:34
Yeah they are palm trees I drive past them working everyday almost, these tree have no nut, but what I trip out on is the amount we're spending to beautify this highway so the foriegners can look at palm trees on their way to and from the airport. If it wasn't a big enough reason to make the place look nice before for all to enjoy the the hell now? It's not like these foreigners are going to say "OMG, Nimitz looks terrible, let's have our meeting on Guam"!There are various types of palm trees in the planting, and there are definitely some coconut trees in the mix, so you guys are wrong on that. I agree with you on everything else. Why spend all this money now to beautify a stretch of Highway so some foreign clowns think it is pretty on their drive from the airport to Waikiki. Like you said, what are they going to do? Leave because a stretch of highway median didn't have plants? The only good thing out of this, is that some local landscapers and tree nurseries are making some money right now in this bad econmoy, when things are really slow for them.
Kennie1915
10-23-11, 06:48
I think Hawaii should host APEC every month but in a different location: Waipahu in December, Nanakuli in January, Waianae in February, etc. That way the city and State will come and beautify those areas, repave the roads and clear out the homeless from each place! Oh wait a minute, nevermind. It's only temprary because as soon as the delegates leave, the projects will be forgotten. What was I thinking?
Somewhere areound 20, 000 attendees.Okay do the math, each person takes a dump once or twice a day and pees at least 6 times or more. So for each person that means flushing the toilet at least 4 times, more so for females since they can't pee standing up in a urinal.
Each flush amounts to around 2. 5 gallons of water, so 20, 000 people will create at least 200, 000 additional gallons of sewage to feed the fishes off the coast of Oahu.
How much "semanship" fluid being emptied from the sacks to fill the AMP places is another interesting calculation?
There are various types of palm trees in the planting, and there are definitely some coconut trees in the mix, so you guys are wrong on that. I agree with you on everything else. Why spend all this money now to beautify a stretch of Highway so some foreign clowns think it is pretty on their drive from the airport to Waikiki. Like you said, what are they going to do? Leave because a stretch of highway median didn't have plants? The only good thing out of this, is that some local landscapers and tree nurseries are making some money right now in this bad econmoy, when things are really slow for them.Not saying it is cheap, but consider Singapore spent 79mil and Japan plans to spend 200 mil, Hawaii's 28mil (which they hope to make 50mil from APEC) is a bargain in their eyes. Still, I agree with you guys. Beautification is great but the maintenance and upkeep is where the real money is spent. And Hawaii doesn't have it.
V Rider
Lowlys One
10-24-11, 00:23
Okay do the math, each person takes a dump once or twice a day and pees at least 6 times or more. So for each person that means flushing the toilet at least 4 times, more so for females since they can't pee standing up in a urinal.
Each flush amounts to around 2. 5 gallons of water, so 20, 000 people will create at least 200, 000 additional gallons of sewage to feed the fishes off the coast of Oahu.
How much "semanship" fluid being emptied from the sacks to fill the AMP places is another interesting calculation?Read this on the internet jellyfish eat bacteria in the water, hence we always have a Box Jellyfish influx from 7-10 days after a full moon and most of it is on the South side (town) of the island, add 20, 000 more people flushing the toilets and the next two vmonths of influx should be enormous. And BTW I take a good three craps in the first two and a half hours upon awakening, like clocwork andvone somewhere near lunch, and pee about three time during my sleep which pisses me off. Had a prostate exam by my pcp who happens to be a good 6'2".280#
[QUOTE=Lowlys One; 1303174. And pee about three time during my sleep which pisses me off. Had a prostate exam by my pcp who happens to be a good 6'2".280#[/QUOTE]
Couple years ago my pcp actually scheduled surgery to remove my enlarged prostate. For 6 weeks before the surgery I took zinc at the rate of 10 mg per kilo gram body weight with lots of water to flush it out. Was peeing every 30 minutes and was taking about 400-500 mg per day.
Came back for pre-surgery screening by pcp and he couldn't believe that the prostate had shrunk back to normal size! Canceled the surgery and I've been good to this day, but on a reduced zinc rate about 200-300 mg / day (sometimes only 150-200 mg) but spread out through 3 meals. Better to spread out the doses throughout each meal, beginning, middle and end otherwise you'll get upset stomach.
It works, is natural and allot cheaper than the prescribed medications you purchase. However sometimes it makes me fart more often than not, maybe should switch brand? Scared the heck out of one AMP provider went she walked on my back and the fog horn blew its top! ha ha
OralConniseur
10-24-11, 05:20
I need some senior advice. With APEC coming soon and HPD increasing their work hours knowing girls are coming here to service the APEC guys / girls; do you think it would be wise to lay low until APEC is over? I don't want to get swept up in the craziness. Thanks.
OC
Read this on the internet jellyfish eat bacteria in the water, hence we always have a Box Jellyfish influx from 7-10 days after a full moon and most of it is on the South side (town) of the island, add 20, 000 more people flushing the toilets and the next two vmonths of influx should be enormous. And BTW I take a good three craps in the first two and a half hours upon awakening, like clocwork andvone somewhere near lunch, and pee about three time during my sleep which pisses me off. Had a prostate exam by my pcp who happens to be a good 6'2".280#The bacteria that the jellyfish are going after are not from sewage or waste water discharges from the sewage treatment plants. The treatment plant water is discharged about five miles offshore in over 500 feet depth. I think this allows that discharge to be carried out to the deep sea currents between the islands and heads down to the equator.
If your premises is that the jellyfish are feeding on bacteria, then the fact that the most active use of the ocean is on the south shore centering on Waikiki, Ala Moana Beach and Hanauma Bay. The bacteria would be from the humans entering the water and creating the environment for the bacteria to grow.
The human body sweats to get rid of waste we all generate, that is why body odor stinks. Also, the body's biggest organ is our skin, which replaces cells constantly throwing off dead cells. The ocean does a great job of removing sweat and skin cells, thus creating a great soup for bacteria to grow. Throw in the occassional pee and doo doo from kids and tourists, the ocean waters surrounding Waikiki, Hanauma Bay and Ala Moana are a vertiable petri dish for bacteria to grow on.
The jellyfish invasion is just nature's way of cleaning up our environmental messes. Remember these jellyfish invasions started to get noticable when the yearly tourist counts went over four million each year.
Sancho2063
10-24-11, 15:04
I need some senior advice. With APEC coming soon and HPD increasing their work hours knowing girls are coming here to service the APEC guys / girls; do you think it would be wise to lay low until APEC is over? I don't want to get swept up in the craziness. Thanks.
OCMy employment gives me a birds-eye view of Waikiki during the high-light of the monger hours. I would like to say that I am fairly conscious of my surroundings. However, recently I witnessed a near bust where I saw a street walker attempting a trick then a plain clothes officer appeared out of thin air. Maybe I was too focused on the hot looking hooker but it sure made me think that I will stick to AMP's for now.
Pineapple50
10-24-11, 15:06
The Biggest Joke is this so-called Security Fence that lines Nimitz from the Dal-tile building to Aloha Towers.WTF is this fence for, it is Not even continuous! Anyone can go beyond this Million Dollar SEcurity Fence.
I think Hawaii should host APEC every month but in a different location: Waipahu in December, Nanakuli in January, Waianae in February, etc. That way the city and State will come and beautify those areas, repave the roads and clear out the homeless from each place! Oh wait a minute, nevermind. It's only temprary because as soon as the delegates leave, the projects will be forgotten. What was I thinking?
Little Dickie
10-24-11, 16:26
I need some senior advice. With APEC coming soon and HPD increasing their work hours knowing girls are coming here to service the APEC guys / girls; do you think it would be wise to lay low until APEC is over? I don't want to get swept up in the craziness. Thanks.
OCOnly see regulars. Not a good time to TOFFT
Lowlys One
10-24-11, 19:43
Couple years ago my pcp actually scheduled surgery to remove my enlarged prostate. For 6 weeks before the surgery I took zinc at the rate of 10 mg per kilo gram body weight with lots of water to flush it out. Was peeing every 30 minutes and was taking about 400-500 mg per day.
Came back for pre-surgery screening by pcp and he couldn't believe that the prostate had shrunk back to normal size! Canceled the surgery and I've been good to this day, but on a reduced zinc rate about 200-300 mg / day (sometimes only 150-200 mg) but spread out through 3 meals. Better to spread out the doses throughout each meal, beginning, middle and end otherwise you'll get upset stomach.
It works, is natural and allot cheaper than the prescribed medications you purchase. However sometimes it makes me fart more often than not, maybe should switch brand? Scared the heck out of one AMP provider went she walked on my back and the fog horn blew its top! Ha haIts funny that you mentioned this cause my pcp always pushes the natural way of doing things and he was trying to sell me a bottle that he has in his office for 20 bucks and I thought he was just trying to swindle me for more cash as he likes us to copay at the time of our visit, so I told him that I would get them at a later date. Never bought them but I was thinking vif I was going to get them I'd be cheaper if I went to a supplement store a bought them myself. And to think, I had second thoughts about my pcp and his motives, now that you mentioned this I. Can feel a whole lot more tustworthy aout him!
Captain Nemo
10-24-11, 19:57
Read this on the internet jellyfish eat bacteria in the water, hence we always have a Box Jellyfish influx from 7-10 days after a full moon and most of it is on the South side (town) of the island, add 20, 000 more people flushing the toilets and the next two vmonths of influx should be enormous. And BTW I take a good three craps in the first two and a half hours upon awakening, like clocwork andvone somewhere near lunch, and pee about three time during my sleep which pisses me off. Had a prostate exam by my pcp who happens to be a good 6'2".280#Thought I'd chip in here, since it's something that I know a bit about. The Box Jellyfish (Chironex fleckeri) do not live on bacteria. Rather, they consume mostly small fish and other small swimming creatures who come into contact with the deadly stingers on their tentacles. Upon contact, the stingers immediately inject a powerful nerve toxin which paralyzes the victim, allowing the jellyfish to draw the prey up into its body with its tentacles, where it is digested.
And deadly is the correct word, as the Box Jellyfish is considered to be one of, if not the most, deadly invertebrate in the ocean. Contact by humans has resulted in death in less than one minute. It is not surprising that this information is not better disseminated by the health authorities to the public, given the clear negative impact it would have to the local tourist industry.
The Box Jellyfish has surprisingly good optical sensory organs, six of them actually. They're not eyes in the true sense, but they are very sensitive to light. This explains, at least partially, why their movement is consistently synchronized with the maximum intensity of the full moon and why they come close to those shores which have the most night-time light, like the Waikiki area.
When I was a kid in the 60's collecting sea animals for my aquarium, I knew of the Box Jellyfish, but at that time it was known to live only in the South Pacific, around Australia. In the 40+ intervening years since then, it has somehow managed to travel an awful long distance and has now taken up permanent residence in Hawaii.
Be safe surfing the waves and the AMP's.
Its funny that you mentioned this cause my pcp always pushes the natural way of doing things and he was trying to sell me a bottle that he has in his office for 20 bucks and I thought he was just trying to swindle me for more cash as he likes us to copay at the time of our visit, so I told him that I would get them at a later date. Never bought them but I was thinking vif I was going to get them I'd be cheaper if I went to a supplement store a bought them myself. And to think, I had second thoughts about my pcp and his motives, now that you mentioned this I. Can feel a whole lot more tustworthy aout him!I buy it at the commissary for about $2. 69 a bottle of 100 tablets. 50 mg each of Nature's Blend. $20 bucks is still expensive, must be something else?
I actually got this and other information from a book published by "University Medical Research Publishers" called "Amazing Medicines The Drug Companies Don't Want You to Discover" 1993
Lowlys One
10-25-11, 03:33
Thought I'd chip in here, since it's something that I know a bit about. The Box Jellyfish (Chironex fleckeri) do not live on bacteria. Rather, they consume mostly small fish and other small swimming creatures who come into contact with the deadly stingers on their tentacles. Upon contact, the stingers immediately inject a powerful nerve toxin which paralyzes the victim, allowing the jellyfish to draw the prey up into its body with its tentacles, where it is digested.
And deadly is the correct word, as the Box Jellyfish is considered to be one of, if not the most, deadly invertebrate in the ocean. Contact by humans has resulted in death in less than one minute. It is not surprising that this information is not better disseminated by the health authorities to the public, given the clear negative impact it would have to the local tourist industry.
The Box Jellyfish has surprisingly good optical sensory organs, six of them actually. They're not eyes in the true sense, but they are very sensitive to light. This explains, at least partially, why their movement is consistently synchronized with the maximum intensity of the full moon and why they come close to those shores which have the most night-time light, like the Waikiki area.
When I was a kid in the 60's collecting sea animals for my aquarium, I knew of the Box Jellyfish, but at that time it was known to live only in the South Pacific, around Australia. In the 40+ intervening years since then, it has somehow managed to travel an awful long distance and has now taken up permanent residence in Hawaii.
Be safe surfing the waves and the AMP's.You know what else I notice about them, is that after about 9-10 am, on a sunny day they seem to go away, so on the heavy influx days I never surf dawn patrol, and alway surf after 9-10am, so far so good! One time I got stung three time in one surf session early in the morning, got needles from head to toes, could hardly breath, started sweating profusely, my body was going into shock and of course the pain, did the vinegar thing, wasn't working so I decided to head to the hospital but I didn't want to put my clothes on with all that vinegar on me so I jumped in the shower to wash off and as soon as the hotvwater hit me I felt instant relief, I mean instant at that point I knew I didn't need to go to the hospital. So the moral bof this story is if you happened to get stung by these box jellyfish, jump. In the shower and use. Hot water, bi don't kjow if bit was the combination bof vinegar and hot water or just hot water, so try the hot water first and if that don't take the bpain away then try vinegar and then hot water!
Like was said about box jellyfish, they have 'eyes', and are drawn to areas with certain types / colors of light. That's why there are more on the town / waikiki side than other areas. UH has studied them, and that's what they have come to learn, is that box jellies will swim towards light. The lights of ala moana and waikiki draw them to those areas.
One time I got stung three time in one surf session early in the morning, got needles from head to toes, could hardly breath, started sweating profusely, my body was going into shock and of course the pain, did the vinegar thing, wasn't working so I decided to head to the hospital but I didn't want to put my clothes on with all that vinegar on me so I jumped in the shower to wash off and as soon as the hotvwater hit me I felt instant relief, I mean instant at that point I knew I didn't need to go to the hospital. So the moral bof this story is if you happened to get stung by these box jellyfish, jump. In the shower and use. Hot water, bi don't kjow if bit was the combination bof vinegar and hot water or just hot water, so try the hot water first and if that don't take the bpain away then try vinegar and then hot water!Sounds like you had a serious reaction, glad you made it out alright. I didn't do a whole lot of research, and there seems to be some disagreement amongst some sources, but one important criteria is whether it is in fact a box jellyfish and not a portuguese man-of-war, with respect to the effectiveness of certain treatments.
Vinegar is a weak acid and can help neutralize the venom but as you found it may not work. Fresh water can cause more venom to be released, unless it is at least 122 degrees Fahrenheit; research has shown this to be the critical temperature. Since there may not be a thermometer handy, the advice is to make the water as hot as one can take it without getting scalded.
So you were able to drive home while this was happening to you?
Lowlys One
10-25-11, 23:00
Sounds like you had a serious reaction, glad you made it out alright. I didn't do a whole lot of research, and there seems to be some disagreement amongst some sources, but one important criteria is whether it is in fact a box jellyfish and not a portuguese man-of-war, with respect to the effectiveness of certain treatments.
Vinegar is a weak acid and can help neutralize the venom but as you found it may not work. Fresh water can cause more venom to be released, unless it is at least 122 degrees Fahrenheit; research has shown this to be the critical temperature. Since there may not be a thermometer handy, the advice is to make the water as hot as one can take it without getting scalded.
So you were able to drive home while.
[QUOTE=H Mobius; 1304028]Sounds like you had a serious reaction, glad you made it out alright. I didn't do a whole lot of research, and there seems to be some disagreement amongst some sources, but one important criteria is whether it is in fact a box jellyfish and not a portuguese man-of-war, with respect to the effectiveness of certain treatments.
Vinegar is a weak acid and can help neutralize the venom but as you found it may not work. Fresh water can cause more venom to be released, unless it is at least 122 degrees Fahrenheit; research has shown this to be the critical temperature. Since there may not be a thermometer handy, the advice is to make the water as hot as one can take it without getting scalded.
So you were able to drive home while this was happening to you?Yes I was able to drive home in a great deal of pain and sweat, and mind you I had just gotten out of the water in the morning, yet I was sweating profusely, I wasn't hot but it was just a reaction to the venom. But about an hour after arriving home the stings got worse and worse not better, this is where the needles from head to toe and the difficulty breathing occured and the decision made. Definitly box Jellyfish sting as the shoreline was just littered with them but I was set on surfing. I tell you what the box jellyfish sting is way more sore than the portugese man of war sting but the one thing that makes the P. Man o war sting bad as well is the lenght of their tenticles, two feet long can be the normand when they get wrapped around a leg or arm, the lenght of exposure can five seconds long, whereas the box jellyfish has only about 6-8. Inches tenticles in my estimation so getting a tenticle wrapped around a leg is unlikely, even an arm, but getting them trapped between my torso and my board is a problem, which happened twice that day, and once it brushed my leg. Getting the jellyfish trapped between my board and me is unlikely but I was just so unlucky that day and also there was so much in the water that day but nomally you'd just brush up on one but that's all you need to hurt! And you're right the hotter the water the better it felt!
Have any of you guys tried the HMMC? Just curious because I called and talked to some guy who explained to me that the cost of the visit is $190 and implied that the results are guaranteed based on an exam by a physician. The also run some blood tests to determine the dosage of the meds. The results would be an erection within the hour. They would be assigning a prescription for you to take which is good for a year. Not sure if the prescription is a added cost. The package sounds good. He emphasized that it is nothing similar to Viagra or Cialis, etc. They would need info on what medical conditions you have and the meds you are presently taking. Sure curious if anyone has anything to add. The promotional ad is in the daily newspaper. I also checked the website and it indicates that they are a national clinic system. Check the newspaper if you are interested. PM if you have anything to add. Mahalo.
[QUOTE=H Mobius; 1304028]Sounds like you had a serious reaction, glad you made it out alright. I didn't do a whole lot of research, and there seems to be some disagreement amongst some sources, but one important criteria is whether it is in fact a box jellyfish and not a portuguese man-of-war, with respect to the effectiveness of certain treatments.
Vinegar is a weak acid and can help neutralize the venom but as you found it may not work. Fresh water can cause more venom to be released, unless it is at least 122 degrees Fahrenheit; research has shown this to be the critical temperature. Since there may not be a thermometer handy, the advice is to make the water as hot as one can take it without getting scalded.
So you were able to drive home while.
Yes I was able to drive home in a great deal of pain and sweat, and mind you I had just gotten out of the water in the morning, yet I was sweating profusely, I wasn't hot but it was just a reaction to the venom. But about an hour after arriving home the stings got worse and worse not better, this is where the needles from head to toe and the difficulty breathing occured and the decision made. Definitly box Jellyfish sting as the shoreline was just littered with them but I was set on surfing. I tell you what the box jellyfish sting is way more sore than the portugese man of war sting but the one thing that makes the P. Man o war sting bad as well is the lenght of their tenticles, two feet long can be the normand when they get wrapped around a leg or arm, the lenght of exposure can five seconds long, whereas the box jellyfish has only about 6-8. Inches tenticles in my estimation so getting a tenticle wrapped around a leg is unlikely, even an arm, but getting them trapped between my torso and my board is a problem, which happened twice that day, and once it brushed my leg. Getting the jellyfish trapped between my board and me is unlikely but I was just so unlucky that day and also there was so much in the water that day but nomally you'd just brush up on one but that's all you need to hurt! And you're right the hotter the water the better it felt!One good reason I SUP on those days!
Keep the critters at the bottom of your feet.
Stay Safe! E
All halloween weekend was fun. Aloha tower Thursday night college girls all dressed up and flirty, And thats with out alcohol there. Saturday night Hallaballoo at China town. Shit the asses that were hanging out of those costumes and there was alcohol there.
StripedFashion
11-07-11, 12:06
Being that in the last year, I have left my old job and rekindled my media roots once again, my line of works puts me in the midst of all these beautiful wahine athletes from all these different colleges. It's truly is painful to watch all these statuesque, spandex hunneys jump around the court (in that blue balled sort of way). It makes me wish I has post fuck access to their locker room, bangin' even the ugliest, most gorilla-faced looking one. I'd have Brittany on my mind.
Can you imagine bangin' a girl that hot and that tall from behind? That long, long body of hers moving up and down your shaft, stinky pinky smells and post-court sweat reaming your nose. And those eyes of hers, dang! So wicked and sultry. Know what, I think I'd be happy just licking her dookie hole. What ever color it may be, I'm game.
The land of potatoes sure knows how to manufacture their women.
Being that in the last year, I have left my old job and rekindled my media roots once again, my line of works puts me in the midst of all these beautiful wahine athletes from all these different colleges. It's truly is painful to watch all these statuesque, spandex hunneys jump around the court (in that blue balled sort of way). It makes me wish I has post fuck access to their locker room, bangin' even the ugliest, most gorilla-faced looking one. I'd have Brittany on my mind.
Can you imagine bangin' a girl that hot and that tall from behind? That long, long body of hers moving up and down your shaft, stinky pinky smells and post-court sweat reaming your nose. And those eyes of hers, dang! So wicked and sultry. Know what, I think I'd be happy just licking her dookie hole. What ever color it may be, I'm game.
The land of potatoes sure knows how to manufacture their women.I often find a lot of high school volley ball girls walking around Manoa Marketplace in their little black v-ball spandex shorts with THIGHS TO DIE FOR!
They are jailbait though. Honestly, if I had a daughter with an ass and legs like those girls, I'd have a standing mandate that she not walk around in public in those shorts. They are blueball makers!
I often find a lot of high school volley ball girls walking around Manoa Marketplace in their little black v-ball spandex shorts with THIGHS TO DIE FOR!
They are jailbait though. Honestly, if I had a daughter with an ass and legs like those girls, I'd have a standing mandate that she not walk around in public in those shorts. They are blueball makers!I went to workout at the downtown 24 for the first time a few weeks back, and the HPU volleyball team was there. Well, honestly they weren't that hot. But you're right. Those shorts+thighs are YUMS. I mean, if U-turn them around LOL
I went to workout at the downtown 24 for the first time a few weeks back, and the HPU volleyball team was there. Well, honestly they weren't that hot. But you're right. Those shorts+thighs are YUMS. I mean, if U-turn them around LOLHave to agree with you guys here in So Calif- SO and I went for ice cream, and 15 year old came in with her dad- ass cheeks tight, legs and puY outlined, so tight you could count hairs- had to be careful so I DIDN'T GET CAUGHT LOOKING- Why her dad let her out is unreal- why they even have that for a uniform is crazy, but I love it.
You guys seem to have the most fun of any area on the board, with the KGB's etc- Give a cute one a mouthful for me!
Oki Chimpo
11-07-11, 20:57
Being that in the last year, I have left my old job and rekindled my media roots once again, my line of works puts me in the midst of all these beautiful wahine athletes from all these different colleges. It's truly is painful to watch all these statuesque, spandex hunneys jump around the court (in that blue balled sort of way). It makes me wish I has post fuck access to their locker room, bangin' even the ugliest, most gorilla-faced looking one. I'd have Brittany on my mind.
Can you imagine bangin' a girl that hot and that tall from behind? That long, long body of hers moving up and down your shaft, stinky pinky smells and post-court sweat reaming your nose. And those eyes of hers, dang! So wicked and sultry. Know what, I think I'd be happy just licking her dookie hole. What ever color it may be, I'm game.
The land of potatoes sure knows how to manufacture their women.+1. Dude, I ache with you on this one.
Lowlys One
11-08-11, 00:07
Was just watching the news and it is projecting apec will inject 120 million. Into the states economy, it a huge headache but I guess. There a good pay. Off!
Lowlys One
11-12-11, 00:18
Hmm. Just watching the news and the leadership arriving also the topics being discussed and basically just the overall daily operations of this conference, this is some really big matters with big titles being held around town. And here I am in my own little world getting all frustrated over not being able to surf my regular break and do the normal routine that I usually do, sometimes I can be so petty and short sighted,"it's all about me" mentality, so much so I at times couldn't think myself out of a box. It takes situation and events like these to snap me out of myself. Thank god for apec! BTW I'm very impressed with the whole production, convention center looks great on the tele!
Hmm. Just watching the news and the leadership arriving also the topics being discussed and basically just the overall daily operations of this conference, this is some really big matters with big titles being held around town. And here I am in my own little world getting all frustrated over not being able to surf my regular break and do the normal routine that I usually do, sometimes I can be so petty and short sighted,"it's all about me" mentality, so much so I at times couldn't think myself out of a box. It takes situation and events like these to snap me out of myself. Thank god for apec! BTW I'm very impressed with the whole production, convention center looks great on the tele!Just imagine 20, 30 or 40 years ago the concept of the US President and Russian Leader (then USSR) being together at a conference? That would be a monumental event. Now it's a secondary headline. My how times change! Now the big deal is the China President being here and talking him out of what they're doing with their currency so as not to bankrupt the world.
Agreed. This APEC is an important deal if only for that!
Just the fact we have 20 or more of the worlds leaders on our little island is amazing. Now I would like to know where exactly that 120, 000 is goung to?
Godd job people of Hawaii! Be proud. Our state is number one!
Lowlys One
11-12-11, 02:14
Just imagine 20, 30 or 40 years ago the concept of the US President and Russian Leader (then USSR) being together at a conference? That would be a monumental event. Now it's a secondary headline. My how times change! Now the big deal is the China President being here and talking him out of what they're doing with their currency so as not to bankrupt the world.
Agreed. This APEC is an important deal if only for that!Which reminds me of my greatest hero, Mikhail Gorbachev: The leader of the then Soviet Union and the Eastern bloc of nation (the communists) , this dude not only has the humility but the foresight to relinquish his vast power (the most powerful man in the world) , for the good of not only his people but the people of the world, he basically said this way of life "sucks", thus setting a domino effect for most if not all dictatorship to fall in Europe setting the world on a path to peace which could not have been imagined much less seen as little as two years prior. Course now we have a new set of enemies, but still this dude is so underated, but he fricken rocks, all hail Gorby, my hero!
Hmm. Just watching the news and the leadership arriving also the topics being discussed and basically just the overall daily operations of this conference, this is some really big matters with big titles being held around town. And here I am in my own little world getting all frustrated over not being able to surf my regular break and do the normal routine that I usually do, sometimes I can be so petty and short sighted,"it's all about me" mentality, so much so I at times couldn't think myself out of a box. It takes situation and events like these to snap me out of myself. Thank god for apec! BTW I'm very impressed with the whole production, convention center looks great on the tele!Yeah, I sit in Sec. Clinton's, Pres. Of Philippine's, Pres. Of Russia (among others) and Obama's room (tomorrow) during their presentations. And I'll work with Mrs. O on Monday. I have SS clearance. No, I'm not press or security or a volunteer. And I still get bashed for giving info on the SS shooting incident. Yeah, you know who you are. But I digress. . . .
To my select brothers, heavy shit going down in the next few years. All I can say is "batten down the hatches" because next year is going to be a tough one economically. We ain't seen nuthin' yet.
V Rider
Was just watching the news and it is projecting apec will inject 120 million. Into the states economy, it a huge headache but I guess. There a good pay. Off!The added security alone for this dog and pony show in one day will cost more than 120 million. As long as this HELPS local Business, (With the added horrific traffic, maybe not) I'd be happy, but I really doubt it. All those nice new Palm trees they added to Ala Moana Road? The nice new stone sidewalks in Waikiki? Like Painting lines and rocks in the Army when a General is going to stop by to not even notice. Who paid for that? Lots O fluff and show, for 120 million? Ya, hope it's bettah than that folks.
RickJames808
11-12-11, 03:27
Which reminds me of my greatest hero, Mikhail Gorbachev: The leader of the then Soviet Union and the Eastern bloc of nation (the communists) , this dude not only has the humility but the foresight to relinquish his vast power (the most powerful man in the world) , for the good of not only his people but the people of the world, he basically said this way of life "sucks", thus setting a domino effect for most if not all dictatorship to fall in Europe setting the world on a path to peace which could not have been imagined much less seen as little as two years prior. Course now we have a new set of enemies, but still this dude is so underated, but he fricken rocks, all hail Gorby, my hero!Nice pick Lowlys.
Was just watching the news and it is projecting apec will inject 120 million. Into the states economy, it a huge headache but I guess. There a good pay. Off!Yeah, this APEC is just another dog and pony show, just like Rail. State "invests" $120 million, while APEC wants to make the entire Pacific basin a "free trade" zone. More USA jobs being outsourced overseas. Veterans parade has been canceled in Wahiawa, lost of business revenue because HPD too busy in Waikiki to control traffic. Schofield army police could fill in, but no HPD cops need to get their overtime, hell with the residents and business in Wahiawa.
Just like Rail, city of Honolulu "invests" $5 billion on boondoggle where over 80 percent of Oahu taxpayers will not even ride that obsolete technology that will never eleviate traffic jams and actually cause more disruptions during its projected 10 year building phase. All your taxpayer's money going to into the wrong pockets, the corrupt politicians and their cronies.
Lowlys One
11-12-11, 18:40
Yeah, this APEC is just another dog and pony show, just like Rail. State "invests" $120 million, while APEC wants to make the entire Pacific basin a "free trade" zone. More USA jobs being outsourced overseas. Veterans parade has been canceled in Wahiawa, lost of business revenue because HPD too busy in Waikiki to control traffic. Schofield army police could fill in, but no HPD cops need to get their overtime, hell with the residents and business in Wahiawa.
Just like Rail, city of Honolulu "invests" $5 billion on boondoggle where over 80 percent of Oahu taxpayers will not even ride that obsolete technology that will never eleviate traffic jams and actually cause more disruptions during its projected 10 year building phase. All your taxpayer's money going to into the wrong pockets, the corrupt politicians and their cronies.I don't confess to know everything but this is what I see, apec comes to town along with their cash (120 million, projected) , now most of it may go to tourism (hotels, tour companies, visitor attractions, audio & video, stage and lighting, ect.) , security and whobever else is involved with setting up the state to handle the influx. These people will score directly from the added work that it takes to put on this event, but a month from now these families going renovate that bathroom they always wanted to but didn't quite have enough to do, now the construction worker going have a little extra side work and because of that he going buy that new board he always wanted for the upcoming winter but was just making ends meet but with that one side job, the surfboard shaper get one more extra board on the slate and because of that extra board he made he going take the family out for dinner, and on and on, you get the idea, this is won't be immediately apparent, like we all want our stuff and we want it now but look long term and there really is a payoff for all!
I don't confess to know everything but this is what I see, apec comes to town along with their cash (120 million, projected)Consider this:
APEC spending ________________________________________________$120, 000, 000.
Less: What displaced regular tourists would have spent anyway _________. $80, 000, 000.
Less: Police OT and National Guard ________________________________-$20, 000, 000.
Less: Irritation to regular tourists.
Kapiolani Park, Iolani Palace, Diamond head closed.
Visitors walk out from hotels to get taxis.
18 hour traffic jams. Dissatisfaction is hard to measure but has real.
Economic consequences ________________________________________-$2, 000, 000.
Less: Irritation to locals (reduced local spending in Waikiki) _______________$500, 000.
Feeling that government does not care is a further intangible loss.
Net gain (maybe if we are really lucky) ______________________________$17, 500, 000.
on and on, you get the ideaIt may be positive but not as much as officials want you to believe.
Yeah, lots of commotion, traffic congestion, our convenience of having our beautiful parks available to us taken away, etc. All logical complaints.
Why do they even need to have it here, right? We don't need these hassles, right?
One reason I saw to put up with these "hassles" is we belong to the Pacific RIM and therefore must do our part, like it or not. We do benefit from belonging to the Pacific RIM. We have benefited for a long time with the visitors from Asia and Southeast Asia. It costs Hawaii 27 million, but how much have we gained from these countries sending us their visitors? And for how long have they been doing this? Days? Weeks? More like decades. Do we want it to continue? Sure we do. Tiny example: Look at Pink and all the great girls now. Would we get these girls with such regularity if we were not part of this consortium? Hard to say definitively, but I would hazard a guess most likely not.
Hawaii is a cheap stated, considering California has a 60Billion rail project proposed. Hawaii is spending 27million on APEC, Singapore 2 years ago spent 70million. Japan, if they join, will spend 200million. Leaders of 21 Pacific RIM countries have experienced Hawaii first hand.
We live in Hawaii. Where's the Aloha? Give back more than what you get. Or have we forgotten that?
For one week of hassles, we have gotten years of patronage. Small price to pay, IMHO.
Not trying to argue, just one person's opinion.
In any case, IT'S DONE! Release the hounds! LOL.
V Rider
Honolulu808
11-13-11, 08:46
Yeah, lots of commotion, traffic congestion, our convenience of having our beautiful parks available to us taken away, etc. All logical complaints.
Why do they even need to have it here, right? We don't need these hassles, right?
One reason I saw to put up with these "hassles" is we belong to the Pacific RIM and therefore must do our part, like it or not. We do benefit from belonging to the Pacific RIM. We have benefited for a long time with the visitors from Asia and Southeast Asia. It costs Hawaii 27 million, but how much have we gained from these countries sending us their visitors? And for how long have they been doing this? Days? Weeks? More like decades. Do we want it to continue? Sure we do. Tiny example: Look at Pink and all the great girls now. Would we get these girls with such regularity if we were not part of this consortium? Hard to say definitively, but I would hazard a guess most likely not.
Hawaii is a cheap stated, considering California has a 60Billion rail project proposed. Hawaii is spending 27million on APEC, Singapore 2 years ago spent 70million. Japan, if they join, will spend 200million. Leaders of 21 Pacific RIM countries have experienced Hawaii first hand.
We live in Hawaii. Where's the Aloha? Give back more than what you get. Or have we forgotten that?
For one week of hassles, we have gotten years of patronage. Small price to pay, IMHO.
Not trying to argue, just one person's opinion.
In any case, IT'S DONE! Release the hounds! LOL.
V RiderYou forgot to mention the 90+ major companies in town for the conference that brought their CEO's and other delicates that paid full rate to stay in our Waikiki. Hopefully some of these companies will come back to hold their own conventions in Hawaii. That means more work.
The last APEC CEO Conference was last held on US soil in the 1990's. It was perfectly fitting that the 10th Annual conference was held in the middle of what it was all about.
Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.
You forgot to mention the 90+ major companies in town for the conference that brought their CEO's and other deliates that paid full rate to stay in our Waikiki. Hopefully some of these companies will come back to hold their own conventions in Hawaii. That means more work.
The last APEC CEO Conference was last held on US soil in the 1990's. It was perfectly fitting that the 10th Annual conference was held in the middle of what it was all about.
Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.Right-o, H808!
I'm partial to the Filipino delegates. Some of President Aquino III's entourage rocked my world! LOL
V Rider
Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.I think I know which one you are talking about. To put it shortly I work at where the Indonesion delegation is staying. Get to see her dress up for the conference, and see her in her normal clothes. She is pretty damn hot!
I think I know which one you are talking about. To put it shortly I work at where the Indonesion delegation is staying. Get to see her dress up for the conference, and see her in her normal clothes. She is pretty damn hot!Question, where can I see pictures of these females from the different delegations?
You forgot to mention the 90+ major companies in town for the conference that brought their CEO's and other delicates that paid full rate to stay in our Waikiki. Hopefully some of these companies will come back to hold their own conventions in Hawaii. That means more work.
The last APEC CEO Conference was last held on US soil in the 1990's. It was perfectly fitting that the 10th Annual conference was held in the middle of what it was all about.
Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.You can believe what you want about the pros / cons of APEC. I'll tell you their process and forseight.
In certain aspect of planning this clusterfuk is for shit. As I sit here once again waiting for H1 to reopen again during rush hour traffic, where a simple Helicopter ride back and fourth to their destination would eliminate the stupidity.
Since only Russia, US, and Chinese "delegates " are the reason for the shut down I know this is doable for a fact.
Oh and those90+ CEOs that are here? They'd be here regardless. The leaders all come here to Bloaviate anyway that's what polititians do. So again F APEC. When its over you will truelly find nothing was gained. EVEN in the long run!
Empty your mailbox, bra.
V Rider
I'm going to be taking a trip to LA county soon and was wondering if anyone had any recomendations on AMP, KB, or anything fun. I'm not really into the whole escort or SW thing and I can figure out the SC from others. Tried searching on LA, OC, Long Beach, etc forums but its nothing like here. I'm starting to wonder if we provide the most action on these forums. Had a few reports that were positive but sounded like one girl here and one girl there. My taste is in the younger area, such as bars and AMP in the Ala area. Any info would be appreciated although I'm starting to think its really not like here.
I'm going to be taking a trip to LA county soon and was wondering if anyone had any recomendations on AMP, KB, or anything fun. I'm not really into the whole escort or SW thing and I can figure out the SC from others. Tried searching on LA, OC, Long Beach, etc forums but its nothing like here. I'm starting to wonder if we provide the most action on these forums. Had a few reports that were positive but sounded like one girl here and one girl there. My taste is in the younger area, such as bars and AMP in the Ala area. Any info would be appreciated although I'm starting to think its really not like here.Rubmaps man. Hmm. I wonder if the places are like here in Hi? Or, going be like the ones in Vegas?
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Member #4671
11-19-11, 22:13
Ok here is my topic of shame.
I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.
Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.
Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.
Pm for details.
Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.
This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.
Captain Nemo
11-20-11, 18:23
Ok here is my topic of shame.
I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.
Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.
Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.
Pm for details.
Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.
This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.Good post. But there's no shame involved here. You were a gentleman and tried to express your feelings by helping her out, but she didn't reciprocate as you thought she might. That's OK, she wasn't obliged to. However, the problem is the manner in which she didn't reciprocate.
Many people simply lack the proper social skills and experience to gracefully let someone know that they're not interested in pursuing the relationship. This is what happened between the two of you. That doesn't necessarily mean that she should be lumped into a group, and labeled and dismissed as simply being a "ho", although the pain she caused you would understandably give you that right.
I have no idea of whom you're talking about, but is it possible that there were cultural and / or language issues that impeded her ability to be forthright and polite with you?
Just wanted to tell you not to feel any shame about what happened. It can happen to any of us at one time or another, both in the hobby and without. Keep your head up and carry on. Tomorrow will bring another day with new chances of meeting someone more deserving of your attention.
Take care,
C. N.
Ok here is my topic of shame.
I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.
Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.
Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.
Pm for details.
Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.
This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.Don't worry bra, we have all been there. The important thing to remember is to learn from your experience and don't let it happen a second time.
Ok here is my topic of shame.I hope you weren't out any $$$ given to her as pure donations. As others have said, it is a valuable lesson.
NEVER trust a provider, stripper, hostess, etc, again. EVER! Never, ever, EVER!
You know the saying,"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!"
Good luck bro!
Ok here is my topic of shame.
I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.
Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.
Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.
Pm for details.
Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.
This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.I have learned the hard way too. And I was getting BBBJ only. I did not see her exclusively but saw her so many times due to big discount that it felt like a short marriage. First one I was with in relaxation. Special place in my heart just from that. Thought we were friends just from being together so many times. But how wrong I was. Confused friendship with customer service and a business relationship with a personal one. The pros cannot really be friends with the customers, whether they have heart or not. No matter how much $ they make or how some feminists treat what they do as empowerment, they are social pariahs in Hawaii society, American society and any Asian society where they may come from. Most, especially the transient ones, have to hide what they do from their family, even if they may remit $ to support family. There is no way they can avoid the shame and stigma of fucking strangers, and many strangers, for $. So, while they are in the business they do what they can to maximize earning potential, and this includes putting on the greatest act for a "girlfriend experience." But relationship with the customer outside of the AMP complicates matter in ways that could not be resolved. And after they leave the business the last thing they want is "friendship" with someone that reminds them of the most shameful part of their lives that they have to hide, even if that "friend" is discreet. Wish I had known this shit before spending all that $ on her. Treat the girls nicely to maximize your own enjoyment of the sessions. But the only proper attitude toward them is the "Eastern Front" attitude.
Member #4671
11-21-11, 13:14
Thanks brothers. I did give some cash or buy a few things, spent a lot of gas, money, and risked being caught or fired from my job to help her out. I tried to be a supportive influence and keep her away from drugs and her messed up friends. Been shafted a lot of times by her but this last one stung more then others. I won't drop her name because she's only seeing regulars and don't want this to come off like a attack on her. It was just me venting my frustration to people that understand my situation. This board is a blessing because not many in your real life will understand mongering, its joys, its risks, and its casualties. If you want to know details of what happened pm, not going to say her name unless it comes up.
Thanks brothers,
Pipe
I hope you weren't out any $$$ given to her as pure donations. As others have said, it is a valuable lesson.
NEVER trust a provider, stripper, hostess, etc, again. EVER! Never, ever, EVER!
You know the saying,"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!"
Good luck bro!The saying that "two heads are better than one" is not only true between two different people, BUT also between the two heads you have. How?
Keep them separate, your wood head is strictly for mongering and the other big brain is for your other life, don't mix the two and you won't have any problems. Until she gets her head in balance, you are just an outside influence.
Rubmaps man. Hmm. I wonder if the places are like here in Hi? Or, going be like the ones in Vegas?
http://www.rubmaps.com/los-angeles-massage-parlors-caThanks Uki, if I get to checkout a place I'll report. Given the time and money I'll be there, might be a little tough but I'm going to try at least a kb or something. Everything I read so far though, sounds like its going to be a downer.
Thanks brothers. I did give some cash or buy a few things, spent a lot of gas, money, and risked being caught or fired from my job to help her out. I tried to be a supportive influence and keep her away from drugs and her messed up friends. Been shafted a lot of times by her but this last one stung more then others. I won't drop her name because she's only seeing regulars and don't want this to come off like a attack on her. It was just me venting my frustration to people that understand my situation. This board is a blessing because not many in your real life will understand mongering, its joys, its risks, and its casualties. If you want to know details of what happened pm, not going to say her name unless it comes up.
Thanks brothers,
PipeI disagree. We all know the risks involved. If you convert her, she would have been yours for a long time. You're problem is that you couldn't get her to get clean. I stood by someone through years of visiting at kahe and several relapses. But after I got her clean and on her feet, I have always been special to her. She quit the businesses and works in a real job now, but still see each other regularly. Don't give up yet. Young girls make mistakes.
Member #4671
11-22-11, 00:20
I disagree. We all know the risks involved. If you convert her, she would have been yours for a long time. You're problem is that you couldn't get her to get clean. I stood by someone through years of visiting at kahe and several relapses. But after I got her clean and on her feet, I have always been special to her. She quit the businesses and works in a real job now, but still see each other regularly. Don't give up yet. Young girls make mistakes.Make like I didn't try. Mandatory rahab only last as long as the hospitol feels is necessary, especially if its not privately paid for and honestly I couldn't afford that. Several places, several times, once she is out I cannot be with her 24/7 as much as I want to be, it can't be done. She believes in her druggy friends so much that she convinces herself that her being sober will make them sober but its the other way around. As a former addict I know. It has to be her choice ir the choice has to be taken away for a long time and the ties that bind her to that side have to be cut completely. I told her ill still be a friend but honestly I don't know what else I can do to help her. I tried to show her another way, that yes someone cares what happens to her but the addiction is too strong. Ill still be around, but have to take a practical look at things. Almost losing my job because of her won't help either one of us and losing my personal life won't make a difference to her. I might be just the fag that will do whatever she asks in her mind. I really don't know. Ill do what I can because I don't want to abandon her.
Member #4671
11-22-11, 00:26
I disagree. We all know the risks involved. If you convert her, she would have been yours for a long time. You're problem is that you couldn't get her to get clean. I stood by someone through years of visiting at kahe and several relapses. But after I got her clean and on her feet, I have always been special to her. She quit the businesses and works in a real job now, but still see each other regularly. Don't give up yet. Young girls make mistakes.Oh and BTW. May be we should discuss anymore in pm.
Ok here is my topic of shame.
I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.
Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.
Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.
Pm for details.
Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.
This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.Rookie mistake yes but don't think its impossible. From the sound of the report, it sounds like she was trouble to begin with. A lot of girls in this biz may have the same problems but not all. Just got to make sure to analyze things more carefully. I know in situations we all get optismistic but we also got to see things the way it is.
MikeWatson
11-22-11, 04:52
Ok here is my topic of shame.
I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.
Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.
Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.
Pm for details.
Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.
This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.I have similar memories I'd like to forget. Mine even said she loved me. Almost gave in to her but found out I could not trust her. Too bad, since I cared for her at the time.
I'm coming up on my last day in LA, and still haven't experienced any mongering activities. It seems like the thing ti do might be AAMP things. Could someone please give me info or a site where the girls advertise within the next few hours. Do not pm it to me as it won't show.
On The Prowl
11-27-11, 17:42
I'm coming up on my last day in LA, and still haven't experienced any mongering activities. It seems like the thing ti do might be AAMP things. Could someone please give me info or a site where the girls advertise within the next few hours. Do not pm it to me as it won't show.Go to rub maps. Com
I'm coming up on my last day in LA, and still haven't experienced any mongering activities. It seems like the thing ti do might be AAMP things. Could someone please give me info or a site where the girls advertise within the next few hours. Do not pm it to me as it won't show.Try City Vibe or sfredbook.
So I just came back from LA and would like to thank all the members who contributed info. Unfortunately, I don't have much to report since the style and procedures are so different compared to here. I checked out a few kb bars in Ktown and Hawaiian Gardens and well they weren't really hostess bars to begin with. There were a few older women who were sitting next to customers but thats it. The highlight was seeing the karaoke setup. Like your typical karaoke bar in the mainland, there was a little stage but one also had a supporting band. Glad we don't have that kind of crap here. I checked out Cafe Lu the viet coffee shop. I swear I seen a girl or two that worked at Diamond Club, but of course their uniforms disrupted my vision LOL. Basically you're just paying 6-7 dollars for a coffee, eye candy, and all the tea you can drink. When you see a girl you like pass by drink your tea and they will come refill it. The girls weren't very talkative there but supposedly they are other places. I tried to checkout a AMP or a escort, but a lot stop business by 11. In fact on my last night I desperatley tried to get a hold of someone on ******** but no luck. I kind of saw it as maybe it was for the best, but can't help but feel incomplete as the girl's ads were really hot. I guess the early mongering would be something I would have to get use to there. Overall mongering experience not too great, but still had a lot of fun. Hope to go back soon. Again thank you to anyone who contributed info for me.
I saw at the end of the newscast that newscaster Stephanie Lum just got married.
I saw at the end of the newscast that newscaster Stephanie Lum just got married.Yeah, saw that. Was surprised because couple years ago I read an article about her in MidWeek saying she was engaged to a haole guy. Her husband is obviously Japanese. From last night's photo. She's a real cutsey cutie. Easy on the eyes during the newscast and always upbeat.
I disagree. We all know the risks involved. If you convert her, she would have been yours for a long time. You're problem is that you couldn't get her to get clean. I stood by someone through years of visiting at kahe and several relapses. But after I got her clean and on her feet, I have always been special to her. She quit the businesses and works in a real job now, but still see each other regularly. Don't give up yet. Young girls make mistakes.LOL, to be honest, that type of thinking got me hopeful and disappointed back in the day. Is it worth the risk? I told this one amp girl one time when we were hanging out outside of the amp, I'm gonna b mad if u have 100 bfs. She looked away and then asked me if I wanted to move to a foreign country w her. So w these girls I think they can be part genuine and part scandalous because of the business they choose to get themselves into. Sad part I still haveva sweet spot for her even after she disappeared.
Was surprised because couple years ago I read an article about her in MidWeek saying she was engaged to a haole guy. Her husband is obviously Japanese.Yeah, I remember the haole guy too. You know I see this happen often, even with my own girl friends (not girlfriends). Whenever an engagement goes south, they very quickly attach themselves to another and rush into marriage.
Will be interesting to see if it works out. Honestly, he looked like a geek and out of her league. She'll probably pop out a few kids, and then fool around on the side--again from observed experiences.
Hilifter37
12-05-11, 02:09
Yeah, I remember the haole guy too. You know I see this happen often, even with my own girl friends (not girlfriends). Whenever an engagement goes south, they very quickly attach themselves to another and rush into marriage.
Will be interesting to see if it works out. Honestly, he looked like a geek and out of her league. She'll probably pop out a few kids, and then fool around on the side-again from observed experiences.Yeah, I remember the previous engagement, so I think this time it was kept a little "quieter" and discreet. I seen the husband and he is better looking than me (not saying much of course) , so I don't think she is that out of his league. Also, I have seen her many, many times without makeup. Cute, petite, Chinese girl but not that special (in terms of only looks).
I saw at the end of the newscast that newscaster Stephanie Lum just got married.I've noticed the ring on her finger for a few months now.
Is it me or do RN'S females always hit touch whatever you call it when they prep you for a procedure? Had a minor procedure done today and she must have rubbed touched my penis at least three to five times. She was cute and sexy too. This has happened to me quite a few times.
CK
Is it me or do RN'S females always hit touch whatever you call it when they prep you for a procedure? Had a minor procedure done today and she must have rubbed touched my penis at least three to five times. She was cute and sexy too. This has happened to me quite a few times.
CKI know for a fact that my friend's girlfriend who is a nurse for awhile says that often her nurse friends will come across a patient with a big member. When he is passed out and time to change the sheets, they all go take a look at his hammer, nasty ones. Not all nurses, but a select group of horny ones.
Maybe you should "inadvertently" brush up with your hand on her assets, tits and fur mound and see what happens? You know something like "excuse me", but I was trying to reach that bottle.
Is it me or do RN'S females always hit touch whatever you call it when they prep you for a procedure? Had a minor procedure done today and she must have rubbed touched my penis at least three to five times. She was cute and sexy too. This has happened to me quite a few times.That's kind of like hair dressers who "inadvertently" maul you with their tits as they're giving you a cut. They know what they're doing, haha!
I know for a fact that my friend's girlfriend who is a nurse for awhile says that often her nurse friends will come across a patient with a big member. When he is passed out and time to change the sheets, they all go take a look at his hammer, nasty ones. Not all nurses, but a select group of horny ones.
Maybe you should "inadvertently" brush up with your hand on her assets, tits and fur mound and see what happens? You know something like "excuse me", but I was trying to reach that bottle.Back in the mid-90s I had some back troubles to where I had to see a chiropractor at Kaiser. Anyway, the doc recommended an ultra-sound massage to go deep into the muscles and work out the knots or whatever. This was at a time when I was pretty jacked and ripped (body-wise, not mentally, haha). Anyway, this one local girl came in to the room to give me my massage. She was acting kind of strange like she was nervous or embarrassed or something, but in a good mood as she was smiling and friendly. As the session went on, I noticed a lot of female nurses walking by the room looking in and stuff, and then giggling as they walked away. I finally asked her what was going on because I sensed the overall oddness. She said it was her birthday and the doc sent her into massage me as her b-day present and all the other nurses were coming by because they were all in on it.
Wish I was now who I was 15 years ago! *sigh* Time is a b!tch, LOL!
OK, there was a link here a second ago to Steph's Wedding album. What happened to it?
I was able to click the link though. Man, she was absolutely, fucking GORGEOUS! That is the luckiest dude in the world to marry that girl!
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.246998812030063.62335.100001598390086&type=1
So I just came back from LA and would like to thank all the members who contributed info. Unfortunately, I don't have much to report since the style and procedures are so different compared to here. I checked out a few kb bars in Ktown and Hawaiian Gardens and well they weren't really hostess bars to begin with. There were a few older women who were sitting next to customers but thats it. The highlight was seeing the karaoke setup. Like your typical karaoke bar in the mainland, there was a little stage but one also had a supporting band. Glad we don't have that kind of crap here. I checked out Cafe Lu the viet coffee shop. I swear I seen a girl or two that worked at Diamond Club, but of course their uniforms disrupted my vision LOL. Basically you're just paying 6-7 dollars for a coffee, eye candy, and all the tea you can drink. When you see a girl you like pass by drink your tea and they will come refill it. The girls weren't very talkative there but supposedly they are other places. I tried to checkout a AMP or a escort, but a lot stop business by 11. In fact on my last night I desperatley tried to get a hold of someone on ******** but no luck. I kind of saw it as maybe it was for the best, but can't help but feel incomplete as the girl's ads were really hot. I guess the early mongering would be something I would have to get use to there. Overall mongering experience not too great, but still had a lot of fun. Hope to go back soon. Again thank you to anyone who contributed info for me.Hope this is OK Jackson?
It really works.
Tried it on my last trip.
Example. http://mojovillage.com/?action=vp&lid=31199
Better in vegas though!
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OK, there was a link here a second ago to Steph's Wedding album. What happened to it?
I was able to click the link though. Man, she was absolutely, fucking GORGEOUS! That is the luckiest dude in the world to marry that girl!Hey did you guys catch the Wondergirls last night with their new songs on KBFD (The Korean Channel)? Talk about yummy. SoHee is my favorite. Man, I wished they all worked at the AMP's. I would be their everyday!
Here is the Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fy4cqWMhyI
If it doesn't work just do a Youtube search for Wondergirls "Be My Baby".
Hey did you guys catch the Wondergirls last night with their new songs on KBFD (The Korean Channel)? Talk about yummy.Thanks for the link Mipene bro. I seem at Pipeline Cafe when they came here because I knew the owner and got in free. Pretty hot babes in person too. BTW, seen Cindy Paliracio and Jenn Boneza on OC16 shows and think they pretty hot, more than Steph Lum imo. What do you guys think of those babes?
BTW, seen Cindy Paliracio and Jenn Boneza on OC16 shows and think they pretty hot, more than Steph Lum imo. What do you guys think of those babes?My lust for Cindy Paliracio is well documented on this forum. Hottest body of any local personality hands down IMO.
But as far as facial beauty and personality, Steph knocks me out!
My lust for Cindy Paliracio is well documented on this forum. Hottest body of any local personality hands down IMO.
But as far as facial beauty and personality, Steph knocks me out!I would pick CindyP any day of the week. Smokingly beautiful all around.
[QUOTE=Mipene77; 1333074]Hey did you guys catch the Wondergirls last night with their new songs on KBFD (The Korean Channel)? Talk about yummy. SoHee is my favorite. Man, I wished they all worked at the AMP's. I would be their everyday!
Here is the Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fy4cqWMhyI
If it doesn't work just do a Youtube search for Wondergirls "Be My Baby". [/QUOTE what about "Girls Generation"?
Hilifter37
12-08-11, 06:49
I used to see them at Bishop 24hr fitness mainly doing cardio machines, but not recently anymore. Both looked very good without much make up on, which is what I find attractive. I wonder which gyms they moved on to. HAC or HC?
Does she have implants? I would guess she does.
I would pick CindyP any day of the week. Smokingly beautiful all around.
Hey did you guys catch the Wondergirls last night with their new songs on KBFD (The Korean Channel)? Talk about yummy. SoHee is my favorite. Man, I wished they all worked at the AMP's. I would be their everyday!
Here is the Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fy4cqWMhyI
If it doesn't work just do a Youtube search for Wondergirls "Be My Baby".Instead of Wonder Girls I would totally prefer Hyunah from 4 minutes at this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI
Or check out the song "Bubble Pop" by Hyuna.
If that doesn't fit your need then check out these 2 groups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGO84ZoYXts
The first link is to the song "Love is Move" by Secret.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3q0ZChgFE
This link is "So Cool" by Sistar.
No wonder why Kpop is so popular now! Hmmmm. I got more people can check out if the just send me a pm.
My lust for Cindy Paliracio is well documented on this forum. Hottest body of any local personality hands down IMO.
But as far as facial beauty and personality, Steph knocks me out!Yes Cincy is a hot ass, Steph is a sweeheart and is pretty well known in tight circles of lovin to the BJ and I will end at that. Haha, and is kind of documented here on the site.
Also Olena, Olena, Olena and her tag teamspartner in crime. She has endless energy, non stop, and Kauai girl, need I say more. Heheh.
Another sweet that use to twist my lolly, was Kuualoha Taylor. A friend of mine use to date her, and since he played on our men's volleyball team, she would come to the tournaments, and without makeup and that smile, WOW!
Have worked on some projects with Cindy and she is professional, and quite genuinely sweet.
How about those babettes on those Korean or Filipino shows. Wow, I am impressed.
Lucky we live Hawaii.
Going to answer your question here. Yeah, I think other local girls could have been good for the role and Grace P is a little thin and not as pretty. However, she's pretty enough and I think they may have not chosen Kelly H because she already been previously been in 2 cop shows in kinda the same role. Judging by the ratings, GP might have been a good choice. Maybe she can act better, hehe.
Thumperforq
12-09-11, 05:21
Instead of Wonder Girls I would totally prefer Hyunah from 4 minutes at this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI
Or check out the song "Bubble Pop" by Hyuna.
If that doesn't fit your need then check out these 2 groups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGO84ZoYXts
The first link is to the song "Love is Move" by Secret.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3q0ZChgFE
This link is "So Cool" by Sistar.
No wonder why Kpop is so popular now! Hmmmm. I got more people can check out if the just send me a pm.Also "Good Girl, Bad Girl" by Miss A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7f3lx9fNfE
"Mister" by Kara.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wsurdgnvBQ&feature=related
"Because of You" by After School.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUCOziZ-bSw
"Abracadabra" by Brown Eyed Girls (for the MILF lovers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrAc4tbVLtk&feature=related
Going to answer your question here. Yeah, I think other local girls could have been good for the role and Grace P is a little thin and not as pretty. However, she's pretty enough and I think they may have not chosen Kelly H because she already been previously been in 2 cop shows in kinda the same role. Judging by the ratings, GP might have been a good choice. Maybe she can act better, hehe.I'm thinking Kelly Hu wasn't chosen because of her age by now. Although Grace Park actually isn't that young either but Hu is probably pushing 40s by now. Originally they wanted Maggie Q, but she turned it down cause she got her own show.
I'm thinking Kelly Hu wasn't chosen because of her age by now. Although Grace Park actually isn't that young either but Hu is probably pushing 40s by now. Originally they wanted Maggie Q, but she turned it down cause she got her own show.Yeah, Kelly will be 44 in a couple of months--born Feb. 1968. That would make her the oldest cast member of the principle leads if she were cast, LOL! Hard to believe that sweet little Miss Teen USA is biologically old enough to be a grandmother now.
I wasn't really into Maggie Q until Nikita came on air, and she started wearing those tight assed clothes! Did you see the episode where she was in her lacy bra and panties??? FUCK!!!
http://www.thenudeceleb.com/pictures/all-celebs/maggie-q-in-her-underwear.html
She's actually probably skinnier than Grace, but you can tell Maggie is a hardbody.
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_4_120707/espy_awards_28_wenn1450020.jpg
All that being said, I would not kick Grace Park out of bed. Unless she wanted to fuck on the floor!
I believe she was in a cop show somewhat recently. She's reaching an age where mommy with teenaged kids role might be more appropriate.
Yeah, Kelly will be 44 in a couple of months-born Feb. 1968. That would make her the oldest cast member of the principle leads if she were cast, LOL! Hard to believe that sweet little Miss Teen USA is biologically old enough to be a grandmother now.
I wasn't really into Maggie Q until Nikita came on air, and she started wearing those tight assed clothes! Did you see the episode where she was in her lacy bra and panties? FUCK!
http://www.thenudeceleb.com/pictures/all-celebs/maggie-q-in-her-underwear.html
She's actually probably skinnier than Grace, but you can tell Maggie is a hardbody.
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_4_120707/espy_awards_28_wenn1450020.jpg
All that being said, I would not kick Grace Park out of bed. Unless she wanted to fuck on the floor!
Yeah, Kelly will be 44 in a couple of months-born Feb. 1968. That would make her the oldest cast member of the principle leads if she were cast, LOL! Hard to believe that sweet little Miss Teen USA is biologically old enough to be a grandmother now.
I wasn't really into Maggie Q until Nikita came on air, and she started wearing those tight assed clothes! Did you see the episode where she was in her lacy bra and panties? FUCK!
http://www.thenudeceleb.com/pictures/all-celebs/maggie-q-in-her-underwear.html
She's actually probably skinnier than Grace, but you can tell Maggie is a hardbody.
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/espy_awards_arrivals_4_120707/espy_awards_28_wenn1450020.jpg
All that being said, I would not kick Grace Park out of bed. Unless she wanted to fuck on the floor!I do think though as far as natural beauty Park is probably best. She really has that girl next door look. I've seen some of Q's Hong Kong movies, you can kind of see that she is wearing a mask. Not to mention I didn't think she was that hot in MI3. Nikita is probably the hottest she looked. Not to mention her acting is pretty bad. There was one movie she was in and I remember thinking, shit she should be doing porn.
I believe she was in a cop show somewhat recently. She's reaching an age where mommy with teenaged kids role might be more appropriate.Man, you guys really making me feel old, LOL. Any of you remember my post (old guys thread) about Kelly making me old because she was the first person to call me 'uncle' over 20years ago and I was still in my 30s. Its kind of weird now that she gramma eligible age. You younger guys will understand later when I say time flies faster as you get older. Just remember most of us old futs old but not over the hill, LOL.
RadioHazard
12-09-11, 17:30
I seen Cindy out at clubs. She is frickin hot. Lots of work but she looks damn good.
Marissa Yamane is a hottie to me. Never saw her out.
Yes Cincy is a hot ass, Steph is a sweeheart and is pretty well known in tight circles of lovin to the BJ and I will end at that. Haha, and is kind of documented here on the site.
Also Olena, Olena, Olena and her tag teamspartner in crime. She has endless energy, non stop, and Kauai girl, need I say more. Heheh.
Another sweet that use to twist my lolly, was Kuualoha Taylor. A friend of mine use to date her, and since he played on our men's volleyball team, she would come to the tournaments, and without makeup and that smile, WOW!
Have worked on some projects with Cindy and she is professional, and quite genuinely sweet.
How about those babettes on those Korean or Filipino shows. Wow, I am impressed.
Lucky we live Hawaii.
RadioHazard
12-09-11, 18:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7f3lx9fNfE The girl that sings the "Hello, Hello, Hello, part. Kinda looks like Apple from Seven.
Also "Good Girl, Bad Girl" by Miss A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7f3lx9fNfE
"Mister" by Kara.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wsurdgnvBQ&feature=related
"Because of You" by After School.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUCOziZ-bSw
"Abracadabra" by Brown Eyed Girls (for the MILF lovers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrAc4tbVLtk&feature=related
Plain and simple, I would fuck them all. Standing, sitting laying down I do not care! Better then the MP girls IMHO!
I believe she was in a cop show somewhat recently. She's reaching an age where mommy with teenaged kids role might be more appropriate.Hey, I wouldn't toss Kelly Hu off the bed, she still got allot of good mileage left on those tires. I'll rather bang someone with experience than some young dead fish that only lies on her back while you do all the "work"!
Take some good advice from a wise mechanic, "the best mileage is when you rotate the tires" on a regular basis. I see allot of hot 40 plus women who need to be "rotated". ha ha
Man, you guys really making me feel old, LOL. Any of you remember my post (old guys thread) about Kelly making me old because she was the first person to call me 'uncle' over 20years ago and I was still in my 30s. Its kind of weird now that she gramma eligible age. You younger guys will understand later when I say time flies faster as you get older. Just remember most of us old futs old but not over the hill, LOL.Your post had me thinking about when I first started going to KBs over 30 years ago. Back then, all the girls would call me John or Johnny. Nowdays, they all call me oppa, even though they know my name. Over the years, I kept thinking it must be the new generation of KBGs. Then it finally hit me today. It is the new generation of KBGs as they weren't even born when I first went barhopping. They could even be my daughters. Now I really feel old.
Now, regarding Kelly Hu and Hawaii Five-O. As it was said before, she is a bit older than the rest of the cast, so she wouldn't fit in as well with the "team". Maggie Q. would have been good as she is a beauty with a great body, but she already committed to Nikita. If she didn't commit, she would have been a great Kono as she can kick ass in real life and would have the local lingo down pat. However, I would have preferred Kono being a local guy as in the original series. Casting Grace Park as Kono adds a new appeal for the viewing audience and eye candy for the guys.
No way boyfriend. I would do her a couple times first then kick her out of bed. I'm so spoiled!
Hey, I wouldn't toss Kelly Hu off the bed, she still got allot of good mileage left on those tires. I'll rather bang someone with experience than some young dead fish that only lies on her back while you do all the "work"!
Take some good advice from a wise mechanic,"the best mileage is when you rotate the tires" on a regular basis. I see allot of hot 40 plus women who need to be "rotated". Ha ha
I believe she was in a cop show somewhat recently. She's reaching an age where mommy with teenaged kids role might be more appropriate.I use to watch Nash Bridges the one with Don Johnson from Miami Vice. Kelly played a cop and used her martial arts. It aired on KGMB 9. But, this show was 10+ years ago. Hehe.
Now, regarding Kelly Hu and Hawaii Five-O. As it was said before, she is a bit older than the rest of the cast, so she wouldn't fit in as well with the "team". Maggie Q. would have been good as she is a beauty with a great body, but she already committed to Nikita. If she didn't commit, she would have been a great Kono as she can kick ass in real life and would have the local lingo down pat. However, I would have preferred Kono being a local guy as in the original series. Casting Grace Park as Kono adds a new appeal for the viewing audience and eye candy for the guys.Hmmm. Since Kelly's actually only a few months older than Daniel Dae Kim, what if they cast "her" as McGarrett? Could she pull off the lead in this series? I really don't see Alex McLaughlin as much of a lead character as Scott Caan steals the show.
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/08/its_time_to_legalize_prostitution/
Hmmm. Since Kelly's actually only a few months older than Daniel Dae Kim, what if they cast "her" as McGarrett? Could she pull off the lead in this series? I really don't see Alex McLaughlin as much of a lead character as Scott Caan steals the show.What if they had Grace, Kelly and Maggie together on the team? Would be nice eye candy but I guess it wouldn't be called Hi-5-O but instead Hawaii's Angels, LOL. The other cop show Kelly was on was was the one withe fat Chinese kung fu guy Samo Hung or something.
Looks like her rack and belly getting bigger. Guess fireman husband has been having some fun.
Jan Fortifore
12-13-11, 17:27
Election year next year.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorialspremium/20111211_City_Declaring_War_on__Sex-for-Money_Hostess_Bars.html?id=135397983
Jay Dubblefoh
Thumperforq
12-14-11, 00:01
Election year next year.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorialspremium/20111211_City_Declaring_War_on__Sex-for-Money_Hostess_Bars.html?id=135397983
Jay DubblefohThe article was in a section called back in the day and is from 1986. Look at the page again and you will see this above the headline:
BACK IN THE DAY: DECEMBER 11, 1986.
This when Charles Marsland and later, Keith Kaneshiro were trying to shutdown the stripclubs and hostess bars around Keeaumoku Street.
Jan Fortifore
12-14-11, 06:09
The article was in a section called back in the day and is from 1986. Look at the page again and you will see this above the headline:
BACK IN THE DAY: DECEMBER 11, 1986.
This when Charles Marsland and later, Keith Kaneshiro were trying to shutdown the stripclubs and hostess bars around Keeaumoku Street.This article popped up on my road runner "news" page and I didn't see the headline on Star-Advertiser. Thank you for the correction.
http://www.rr.com/local/topic/article/rr/4473267/57528809/City_Declaring_War_on_Sex-for-Money_Hostess_Bars
January44
SnatchThat
12-14-11, 07:52
The article was in a section called back in the day and is from 1986. Look at the page again and you will see this above the headline:
BACK IN THE DAY: DECEMBER 11, 1986.
This when Charles Marsland and later, Keith Kaneshiro were trying to shutdown the stripclubs and hostess bars around Keeaumoku Street.Keith is still in office still doing jack shizzle.
Braddahman
12-15-11, 02:19
Is it me or does all the hot women come out of the wood works during the holidays. I swear when I was at Sams today, there were about a half dozen hotties walking around shopping. About 4 of them had some nice fakies, at least it look like implants. One was a sweet local hawaiian Filipino chick, maybe late 20s early 30s. 5'4, 120, look like some fake full Cs wearing some tight ass jeans, and a low cut long sleeve shirt that was showing off deep cleavage. Pretty smile and gorgeous face. She was in the same area so I kind of gave the "I'm checking you out look". She glanced over and smiled a little. I know she saw me checking out her tits. I don't care if I get caught. LOL. Ran into her in another aisle and gave her a polite,"excuse me". She smiled and said,"sorry". Should have went in for the kill but was too chicken. If she was at a AMP or CC, guarantee rush 'them. LOL! Fun checking out hotties during the holidays. Merry Christmas everyone!
Braddahman
Gina mangieri is looking hot now days. She had on a tight red top the other night showing off those C's and those glasses give an extra hottness.
Gina mangieri is looking hot now days. She had on a tight red top the other night showing off those C's and those glasses give an extra hottness.For all you metal heads (like me) just wanted to announce that Beavis and Butthead are back on MTV after a 14 year layoff! Booyah! I watched all the new episodes since they restarted and they are awesome. Nothing is lost. Mike Judge is back doing the all the voices again. You can see them on.
www.mtv.com.
Personally I hate everything else on MTV especially the talentless rap crap.
Oh, by the way where has Moani Nabarro (KITV 4 weather babe) gone in the morning! Got to have my morning fix of Moani while I am trading in the morning. She is just yummy. They got that other girl Amber Lynn Hyden on and she is just way too chubby for me. Bring back Moani now, that is an order!
Not sure if anyone cares but khnl announced that Liz Chun had a kid. 9 pounds! Should be ready for the new UH fb coach in 18 years (don't remember if it was a boy or girl).
I didn't know, she is married to Stevie U.
As for hot women, I go to 24hr fitness, always great to go downstairs and watch the girls on the stairmasters and elliptical, makes me want to work out more. Saw an unusual thing the other night, a girl was working out, she was braless. She was sweating, while most of her t shirt was dry the areas by her areolas were soaking wet. I wanted to go closer to get a good look but had to not look obvious. Never saw that before, quarter sized wet marks with her nips standing out.
Is it me or does all the hot women come out of the wood works during the holidays. I swear when I was at Sams today, there were about a half dozen hotties walking around shopping. About 4 of them had some nice fakies, at least it look like implants. One was a sweet local hawaiian Filipino chick, maybe late 20s early 30s. 5'4, 120, look like some fake full Cs wearing some tight ass jeans, and a low cut long sleeve shirt that was showing off deep cleavage. Pretty smile and gorgeous face. She was in the same area so I kind of gave the "I'm checking you out look". She glanced over and smiled a little. I know she saw me checking out her tits. I don't care if I get caught. LOL. Ran into her in another aisle and gave her a polite,"excuse me". She smiled and said,"sorry". Should have went in for the kill but was too chicken. If she was at a AMP or CC, guarantee rush 'them. LOL! Fun checking out hotties during the holidays. Merry Christmas everyone!
BraddahmanI saw choke young wahines and f.o.b. hotties at McCully Center during the afternoon. And then some fine MILFs in Costco Iwalei. Costco always, always, always has hot MILFs!
For all you metal heads (like me) just wanted to announce that Beavis and Butthead are back on MTV after a 14 year layoff! Booyah! I watched all the new episodes since they restarted and they are awesome. Nothing is lost. Mike Judge is back doing the all the voices again. You can see them on.
www.mtv.com.
Personally I hate everything else on MTV especially the talentless rap crap.
Oh, by the way where has Moani Nabarro (KITV 4 weather babe) gone in the morning! Got to have my morning fix of Moani while I am trading in the morning. She is just yummy. They got that other girl Amber Lynn Hyden on and she is just way too chubby for me. Bring back Moani now, that is an order!Yup. I've caught all the new B&B shows too!
Moani is a hottie fo sho!
What does a monger look like? Since guys have been saying looked like mongers.
CK
What does a monger look like? Since guys have been saying looked like mongers.
CKThats a good question CK. Thinking about it, they have said 'looked like' when in fact they MAY HAVE really meant having a hunch or gut feeling that those guys were mongers. Maybe those guys had that 'I'm horny' vibe that the posters picked up. However, only they would know. I'm just speculating.
So I picked up a copy of Rap: Hawaii's Comic Genius. There is a clip from Rap's Hawaii, the Fate Yanagi skit, as well as a segment with a recent interview with the woman (Gayln Akana) who played Fate Yanagi, who by now must be in her 50's. She has a deep sultry voice.
Does anyone else think she's hot, both 'then and now'? I know get plenny Rapologists out there :D.
What does a monger look like? Since guys have been saying looked like mongers.
CKOldee has a good point. I think one description could be that mongers quietly blend in and mix with 'normal society', who by virtue of their carnal desires assist with the economic needs of women who are willing to massage or otherwise service unfamiliar men from off the street.
So I picked up a copy of Rap: Hawaii's Comic Genius. There is a clip from Rap's Hawaii, the Fate Yanagi skit, as well as a segment with a recent interview with the woman (Gayln Akana) who played Fate Yanagi, who by now must be in her 50's. She has a deep sultry voice.
Does anyone else think she's hot, both 'then and now'? I know get plenny Rapologists out there.Oh, I definitely do. I remember thinking how hot she was when I first saw the video years ago! Here's an interesting blog post with both the video and and Fate's interview:
http://pacific-islander.********.com/2011/02/fate-yanagi.html
Replace the asterisks above with:
blog spot
(all one word)
Crouchingtiger
12-21-11, 05:56
AAAAAAAAAaaaaarrrrrgghhhhhhhh! I can't take this Christmas shopping. Going and seeing all those hot chicks dressed hot, and backside getting jiggy and breasts shaking-I want to go to an AMP, but then I'd have stop shopping cause I going be to tired and have to find the damn parking space again then see more hot chicks and get junior bugging me again, can we go back now. How about now. Now? Is it time? Not tomention all that money that could have been used for shopping-
I think one description could be that mongers quietly blend in and mix with 'normal society', who by virtue of their carnal desires assist with the economic needs of women who are willing to massage or otherwise service unfamiliar men from off the street.Wow, thats very deep and eloquently worded. So much so that I don't understand I bit of it, LOL. Don't get me wrong Mobi bro, I'm certain its stupidity on my part but your explanation sounds so good but I no understand, LOL.
Wow, thats very deep and eloquently worded. So much so that I don't understand I bit of it, LOL. Don't get me wrong Mobi bro, I'm certain its stupidity on my part but your explanation sounds so good but I no understand, LOL.My bad. Well, take me for example. I'm your typical flathead caveman with zero mojo who can't score girls to save his life. So, I pay for action when I need to get with a woman. These typically jobless women are here to make fast money and have the stomach to provide me with 'R' to 'XXX' services, even though they just met me 2 seconds ago. If they are willing to take care of me (which has got to be a sheddy job) , I take care of them in the form of repeat business and in some cases generous tips.
But, I can't tell anyone (especially legit women) what my 'hobby' is or how I REALLY spent my weekend so I keep it to myself. I blend in at the mall or any public place and no one knows or cares that I partake in what 'normal society' would regard as a lewd lifestyle.
I'm sure a lot of members can get any girl they want but monger for their own reasons, and if asked by the girl 'was it good for you? ' will not make reference to their favorite AMP girl.
By the way you're one of the more clever guys here.
Looks like her rack and belly getting bigger. Guess fireman husband has been having some fun.I haven't had a good enough look at her midsection to confirm preggo, but this morning she was showing a huge amount of cleavage. A co-worker of mine whose SO works morning and first evening news at KHON says that her boobs are fake. Just reporting. No first hand knowledge. On KITV, Moani and Yamin were looking real hot this morning. Especially Yasmin in a miniskirt riding high on her thighs. Saw that she got engaged this weekend to Sal.
Hawaii Raven
12-22-11, 23:00
I haven't had a good enough look at her midsection to confirm preggo, but this morning she was showing a huge amount of cleavage. A co-worker of mine whose SO works morning and first evening news at KHON says that her boobs are fake. Just reporting. No first hand knowledge. On KITV, Moani and Yamin were looking real hot this morning. Especially Yasmin in a miniskirt riding high on her thighs. Saw that she got engaged this weekend to Sal.She's pregnant. She said so a little while ago. Guess fireman got lucky.
She's pregnant. She said so a little while ago. Guess fireman got lucky.Good for him! Locked down a nice piece of ass too!
I can barely watch KITV News though. KHNL-KGMB broadcasts in full HD. KITV fills the screen with fake HD. It's standard def blown up. It is just horrible to watch that cruddy picture. They got some fine ass bitches too, they need to show 'them off in HD!
She's pregnant. She said so a little while ago. Guess fireman got lucky.Got a peek at Moani in the evening news last night (Thurs) she did a story (forgot what it was all about) but was looking good and a good surprise for the eyes.
Sorry this type of protections will only work for the m0ng3rs here. Because the unfortunate truth L@dies Is that when you show up to a sting what can you do to prevent getting caught.
Here are my tips and I will explain why it is helpful as a preventive measure not guarantee to not get stung just lessens your chances a lot.
1. First and foremost the best thing I can offer is the Tor Project. Basically it hides your IP address and give you a foreign IP, why is this helpful? Well when you come to this site or any other sit, I. E. Yahoo. Com and log into your Yahoo! Messenger they can do what is called a "back track" to see where your location is and run it through their system to see if your IP address is registered to a Name and Address, here is the website:
http://www.torproject.org/
This one little step already lessens your chance of getting busted, here's why in any sting operation that is carried out for online things they need to concretely say we are chatting with "so so" so they may ask for your real name I. E David. Then when they track it back to who is on the IP address that is register David first name and Lynchhimnow Last name with the address on file, you are now 1 step towards being the Jon of the Day. So if ever in conversation they ask your name is that your real name, be affraid.
2. Prepaid Mobile Broadband, there are many providers in the market right now that provide anonymous prepaid mobile broadband, AT&T, VERIZON, Sprint, Virgin Mobile. You pic your poison, most come with $40 5GB data plans, this costs money, I recommend but it is not necessary, but this step reduces your chances of being picked as the Jon of the Day by 97. When you have a mobile broadband prepaid account put whatever name and an out of state address on it. Why well it no longer is a state matter with an out of state address and when you choose a mobile broadband provider please ensure you use one with that allows you to pay anonymously, also for I think iPad users it does come with a pre paid whatever account you pick and you can use prepaid credit cards that you can find at food pantry, the visa gift cards, register whatever name online and use that name to pay for the data plan, I believe Virgin has an anonymous way to pay through their top up cards, all vendors have a kiosk in their stores to pay via cash, all would be considered safe unless they really want to nab you and get the store you go to to get their video showing that it is you. So basically this is a cost method not free, but up to you to do what you want with your safety, if you own an iPad I strongly suggest the 1 GB data plan for $20 bucks don't hook up to your wireless in the house, keep it separate at all times.
3. VPN, another choice that costs money some are very feasable with cost per use, acts like the Tor project, use the VPN service that the service has no offices in USA, you can choice from a wide variety, so pick you poison Highly suggest any service outside of the USA. They can't subpeona an international company over state stuff. Reduces you risk 98.
4. Finally, google voice, quite possible your best friend if you have a prepaid data plan on your iPhone or Android you are in tip top shape, if not no worries you can use google voice with your computer, google. Com / voice set it up and what not, their is a trick to do this anonymously use a work phone for it to call to dial in the the 2 digit verification # this way it is not your home phone, landlines are the easiest way to do this. I would suggest more tricky ways to do this but it is really involved and super complicated and also limited to what a person has at hand.
This is free by the way, you can call from you internet browser, set up appointment, and of course if the provider is running late it would definitely help if you had this on your phone as an APP, here a suggestion miss out on a session with a provider and I will try to hook you up with a cheap iPhone cost is relatively the same as one session. But read up on it just if you cellular service is on contract under your name you don't want to use that phone for this stuff feel me.
Well those are my top 4 secrets to never getting caught, of course it only limits you from getting caught because it makes it not 100% to say you are so and so, so they will never risk an officer's life unless they can say 100% we know who the Jon is. If you watched news you would see how they followed the Jon form home to location and made the arrest. If they don't know where you are well they are not going to pick you.
As a reward from my countless efforts please provide me with the intel via private message for the active providers out here that making the kala go the distance.I just got a smartphone and recall there being a discussion on apps that mask your caller I'd. I tried searching and only found this post. Was Google Voice the only option? Or am I mis-remembering that there were more opinions being shared? Please PM me if you have other info on an app that works well.
Thanks
I'm just curious as to what's everyones favorite mongering activity isthese days1 know most of us participate in more than one but whats your current favorite or favorites if evenly participated in. Please don't make it a debate about which venue is better etc.In other words dont diss another venue choice. Just curious as there seems to be more AMP and MT forum activity than before. The bar posts are kinda dead activity these days for example. Could it be that there's a shift in mongering trends lately?
ThirteenTwenty
12-24-11, 21:46
I'm just curious as to what's everyones favorite mongering activity isthese days1 know most of us participate in more than one but whats your current favorite or favorites if evenly participated in. Please don't make it a debate about which venue is better etc.In other words dont diss another venue choice. Just curious as there seems to be more AMP and MT forum activity than before. The bar posts are kinda dead activity these days for example. Could it be that there's a shift in mongering trends lately?I'm actually migrating from AMPs to MTs. Mostly because if the level of service. The hours that I go mongering it's difficult to get a "good one" at an AMP. My only complaint with MTs is that my schedule rarely allows me to make an appt more than a few ours in advance so a lot of the time I'm stuck with myself.
As for the bars, I've never had any luck at the KBs, I go mostly if I'm just looking for company and nothing else. Hooked up once at SP3.
I'm just curious as to what's everyones favorite mongering activity isthese days1 know most of us participate in more than one but whats your current favorite or favorites if evenly participated in. Please don't make it a debate about which venue is better etc.In other words dont diss another venue choice. Just curious as there seems to be more AMP and MT forum activity than before. The bar posts are kinda dead activity these days for example. Could it be that there's a shift in mongering trends lately?For me KB and AMP go hand in hand. I usually go just to drink, hangout with friends, just have a good time. Occasionally I'll buy a girl a drink or two if we click. Then just before the nights over, I'll head to a AMP. I do MT weekly, but strictly legit purposes (I'm getting old). The days of good legit w / HJ are gone. With a MT priority is massage.
SnatchThat
12-24-11, 22:16
I just got a smartphone and recall there being a discussion on apps that mask your caller I'd. I tried searching and only found this post. Was Google Voice the only option? Or am I mis-remembering that there were more opinions being shared? Please PM me if you have other info on an app that works well.
ThanksBut google voice works best.
Aloha Gang,
Anyone know who the HOT girls are at Aoyama on King Street? Looking to hook it up with a J girl and wanted to cut to the chase and go for the hotties first.
Mahalo,
GK
Aloha Gang,
Anyone know who the HOT girls are at Aoyama on King Street? Looking to hook it up with a J girl and wanted to cut to the chase and go for the hotties first.
Mahalo,
GKYou been a busy man lately bro, LOL. Happy for you man. Anyhow, I'll tell you about the Aoyama girls if you answer my question in my post below, LOL. Na na just kidding. The Aoyama chicks are a hit and miss thing meaning that there may be many girls some days and almost none on other days. I need to warn you that its not like KB, VB, or TB where they have more similaritys than differences. Jbars are a different animal. Your best bet is to score with a new to hawaii girl which they often have. The turnover at Aoyama is alot being many are here on vacation and don't have working visas. I know you got game but its hard to score with them in 1 night unless they like you or drunk. I've scored a few times but only once 1st night 3years ago with a hot chick named Aya. Lucky for me, she was drunk, LOL. Guy, I speak jap and go jbars here and japan. Got to tell you that it aint easy here. Personally, I think Waikiki hunting for j chicks is made for a guy like you bro. Got more chance and much cheaper too.
Mahalo Oldee, I always appreciate your advice and honesty. I have been busy lately but also spending a lot of money on my so called habit. Haha.
I will probably take your advice some day and go j chick hunting in Waikiki. My problem right now is I got to wait until the ole hag, oops (wife) , goes to sleep and by then Waikiki is dead. Guess that's why I go to the bars in hopes of that easy score. So far so good, but its not great. Still looking for great. Haha Mahalo Oldee!
Aloha no,
Guy.
You been a busy man lately bro, LOL. Happy for you man. Anyhow, I'll tell you about the Aoyama girls if you answer my question in my post below, LOL. Na na just kidding. The Aoyama chicks are a hit and miss thing meaning that there may be many girls some days and almost none on other days. I need to warn you that its not like KB, VB, or TB where they have more similaritys than differences. Jbars are a different animal. Your best bet is to score with a new to hawaii girl which they often have. The turnover at Aoyama is alot being many are here on vacation and don't have working visas. I know you got game but its hard to score with them in 1 night unless they like you or drunk. I've scored a few times but only once 1st night 3years ago with a hot chick named Aya. Lucky for me, she was drunk, LOL. Guy, I speak jap and go jbars here and japan. Got to tell you that it aint easy here. Personally, I think Waikiki hunting for j chicks is made for a guy like you bro. Got more chance and much cheaper too.
NinjaLurker
12-27-11, 17:14
I'm just curious as to what's everyones favorite mongering activity isthese days1 know most of us participate in more than one but whats your current favorite or favorites if evenly participated in. Please don't make it a debate about which venue is better etc.In other words dont diss another venue choice. Just curious as there seems to be more AMP and MT forum activity than before. The bar posts are kinda dead activity these days for example. Could it be that there's a shift in mongering trends lately?Howzit Oldee! I got gun shy of AMP's, just afraid of LE, or being spotted by any acquaintances. So, instead, have been hitting the KB's and VB's where the coverup excuses if exposed are much more believable. But have been moving to takeout from these girls. I look for the ones that have a place that I can go to.
I'm older so I look for the more mature decent looking ones, versus the young good looking ones. I basically go to the bars to make contact, test drive the service then setup future meetings at their place.
ThirteenTwenty
12-28-11, 03:49
Howzit Oldee! I got gun shy of AMP's, just afraid of LE, or being spotted by any acquaintances. So, instead, have been hitting the KB's and VB's where the coverup excuses if exposed are much more believable. But have been moving to takeout from these girls. I look for the ones that have a place that I can go to.
I'm older so I look for the more mature decent looking ones, versus the young good looking ones. I basically go to the bars to make contact, test drive the service then setup future meetings at their place.I've been frequenting KBs for a long while, and have never been able to get take out from the girls there. I've hinted that, it's what I'm interested in but usually get declined politely, even after several visits and copious amount of drinks. What's your technique in getting the service? Or if you don't mind, sharing a location (in PM if you'd prefer).
NinjaLurker
12-28-11, 14:10
I've been frequenting KBs for a long while, and have never been able to get take out from the girls there. I've hinted that, it's what I'm interested in but usually get declined politely, even after several visits and copious amount of drinks. What's your technique in getting the service? Or if you don't mind, sharing a location (in PM if you'd prefer).VB are a lot easier than KB's. You need to pay for the service at the bar, whether booth or backroom first. Sometimes it takes a couple of times before they trust you. Look at it this way, it would be unsafe for them to go one on one outside the bar with a total stranger.
I've hinted that, it's what I'm interested in but usually get declined politely, even after several visits and copious amount of drinks. What's your technique in getting the service?Doing OK. After planting the seed of "take-out" in their heads wean them off with the nekos and let them make the moves; ignore them. Suggest you use the "home champagne" term once as the seed and don't go back to the subject. They'll know already and will accept, when and if.
I've been frequenting KBs for a long while, and have never been able to get take out from the girls there. I've hinted that, it's what I'm interested in but usually get declined politely, even after several visits and copious amount of drinks. What's your technique in getting the service? Or if you don't mind, sharing a location (in PM if you'd prefer).If they get the idea that you just want a fling, that probably is already a no. Of course some girls are different and will go with you for x amount of dollars. All my experiences always dealt with a relationship thing with not costing much, but more headaches.
i've been frequenting kbs for a long while, and have never been able to get take out from the girls there. I've hinted that, it's what i'm interested in but usually get declined politely, even after several visits and copious amount of drinks. What's your technique in getting the service? Or if you don't mind, sharing a location (in pm if you'd prefer). Aloha Korean Bar Tours
VB are a lot easier than KB's. You need to pay for the service at the bar, whether booth or backroom first. Sometimes it takes a couple of times before they trust you. Look at it this way, it would be unsafe for them to go one on one outside the bar with a total stranger.I agree VBG's are easier than KBG's because they know what you are there for, they don't play games, and you get what you pay for.
I agree VBG's are easier than KBG's because they know what you are there for, they don't play games, and you get what you pay for.Na, just kidding JJ. Me too. I'd just add to negociate price wisely as some VBGs can be robs too. However, if he has a preference for k girls, then I reccomend you and Nlurker coach him.
CheapCharlie
12-29-11, 09:43
Na, just kidding JJ. Me too. I'd just add to negociate price wisely as some VBGs can be robs too. However, if he has a preference for k girls, then I reccomend you and Nlurker coach him.Get one BIG time ROB at SP3, who went ask a fellow monger for $$$$$ to do the deed. Braddah wen buy her choke drinks and thought he was goin score, when she invited him back to her place. Thats when she went tell him five hundreh dollah! Glad he said fuck that and left.
CatchSumWaves
12-29-11, 09:56
Found this kool documentary about have sex in Cuba.
http://vimeo.com/33851895
Enjoy
Aloha everyone! Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope your year is starting out well!
Back in September of '09 many of you may remember I was in a near-fatal auto accident that kept me off of the board for six months. Speculation ran wild that I had met the same fate as Kapalua. Anyway, I am finally back as close to 100% healthy as I will ever be. On the flip side now that I have my health, my finances have become a major concern to me.
This past fall I received a HUGE payment for past work that was owed me for several months. Of course, with Monica and Coco back in December, checking out many other girls in September, October and November, and taking a trip to Manila and fucking myself silly, I went through about half of that money! I had to take the remaining funds and put it in a place where it would be safe from my mongering ways; but be accessible through some bit of effort for my real living needs.
I will continue to read the board and of course be available via PM, but won't be mongering as I did before. To be as cash poor as I have been for the last four or five years, and then to blow though what should have been a very comfortable cushion in my finances has awakened me. I think this year I am going to look into getting help with this addiction. I am going to try to limit my visits to once a month, then once a quarter. I will see if I can adhere to that before seeking professional help. I don't want to quit, but rather limit my experience in the "provider" industry. I could never quit. I want to be realistic.
I wish you all well, and in no way am condemning the hobby or anyone at all. But rather finally realizing that I cannot participate anymore or else I will wind up homeless. It's amazing when I think of my situation in the late-'90s through mid-'00s. I had expendable income and thought that it would never end. I was spending $2400 (a dozen visits) per month easy back then. Oh the times, they are a changin'!
Wish me luck!
Hypo
Aloha everyone! Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope your year is starting out well!
Back in September of '09 many of you may remember I was in a near-fatal auto accident that kept me off of the board for six months. Speculation ran wild that I had met the same fate as Kapalua. Anyway, I am finally back as close to 100% healthy as I will ever be. On the flip side now that I have my health, my finances have become a major concern to me.
This past fall I received a HUGE payment for past work that was owed me for several months. Of course, with Monica and Coco back in December, checking out many other girls in September, October and November, and taking a trip to Manila and fucking myself silly, I went through about half of that money! I had to take the remaining funds and put it in a place where it would be safe from my mongering ways; but be accessible through some bit of effort for my real living needs.
I will continue to read the board and of course be available via PM, but won't be mongering as I did before. To be as cash poor as I have been for the last four or five years, and then to blow though what should have been a very comfortable cushion in my finances has awakened me. I think this year I am going to look into getting help with this addiction. I am going to try to limit my visits to once a month, then once a quarter. I will see if I can adhere to that before seeking professional help. I don't want to quit, but rather limit my experience in the "provider" industry. I could never quit. I want to be realistic.
I wish you all well, and in no way am condemning the hobby or anyone at all. But rather finally realizing that I cannot participate anymore or else I will wind up homeless. It's amazing when I think of my situation in the late-'90s through mid-'00s. I had expendable income and thought that it would never end. I was spending $2400 (a dozen visits) per month easy back then. Oh the times, they are a changin'!
Wish me luck!
HypoI am in the same boat as you. I blew a LOT of money in a very short period of time on a binge that I terribly regret right now. And I have sought help too. Will PM you.
Aloha everyone! Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope your year is starting out well!
Back in September of '09 many of you may remember I was in a near-fatal auto accident that kept me off of the board for six months. Speculation ran wild that I had met the same fate as Kapalua. Anyway, I am finally back as close to 100% healthy as I will ever be. On the flip side now that I have my health, my finances have become a major concern to me.
This past fall I received a HUGE payment for past work that was owed me for several months. Of course, with Monica and Coco back in December, checking out many other girls in September, October and November, and taking a trip to Manila and fucking myself silly, I went through about half of that money! I had to take the remaining funds and put it in a place where it would be safe from my mongering ways; but be accessible through some bit of effort for my real living needs.
I will continue to read the board and of course be available via PM, but won't be mongering as I did before. To be as cash poor as I have been for the last four or five years, and then to blow though what should have been a very comfortable cushion in my finances has awakened me. I think this year I am going to look into getting help with this addiction. I am going to try to limit my visits to once a month, then once a quarter. I will see if I can adhere to that before seeking professional help. I don't want to quit, but rather limit my experience in the "provider" industry. I could never quit. I want to be realistic.
I wish you all well, and in no way am condemning the hobby or anyone at all. But rather finally realizing that I cannot participate anymore or else I will wind up homeless. It's amazing when I think of my situation in the late-'90s through mid-'00s. I had expendable income and thought that it would never end. I was spending $2400 (a dozen visits) per month easy back then. Oh the times, they are a changin'!
Wish me luck!
HypoAll the best to you! Glad you've regained your health!
Stangman808
01-02-12, 01:58
Aloha everyone! Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope your year is starting out well!
Back in September of '09 many of you may remember I was in a near-fatal auto accident that kept me off of the board for six months. Speculation ran wild that I had met the same fate as Kapalua. Anyway, I am finally back as close to 100% healthy as I will ever be. On the flip side now that I have my health, my finances have become a major concern to me.
This past fall I received a HUGE payment for past work that was owed me for several months. Of course, with Monica and Coco back in December, checking out many other girls in September, October and November, and taking a trip to Manila and fucking myself silly, I went through about half of that money! I had to take the remaining funds and put it in a place where it would be safe from my mongering ways; but be accessible through some bit of effort for my real living needs.
I will continue to read the board and of course be available via PM, but won't be mongering as I did before. To be as cash poor as I have been for the last four or five years, and then to blow though what should have been a very comfortable cushion in my finances has awakened me. I think this year I am going to look into getting help with this addiction. I am going to try to limit my visits to once a month, then once a quarter. I will see if I can adhere to that before seeking professional help. I don't want to quit, but rather limit my experience in the "provider" industry. I could never quit. I want to be realistic.
I wish you all well, and in no way am condemning the hobby or anyone at all. But rather finally realizing that I cannot participate anymore or else I will wind up homeless. It's amazing when I think of my situation in the late-'90s through mid-'00s. I had expendable income and thought that it would never end. I was spending $2400 (a dozen visits) per month easy back then. Oh the times, they are a changin'!
Wish me luck!
HypoIndeed I wish you the Best of Luck and thank you for the wealth of information you have provided in this forum. Even if you limit your mongering, please continue to keep in touch and post your observations and comments on what other forum members post and on what mongering you are able to do. We lost touch with Kapalua, and we do not need to lose anymore of our esteemed senior members like yourself. Again thank you, Best of Luck and Happy New Year to you.
Taking a break from AMPs doesn't have to mean break from here bro. There is still the wonderfull world of civilian women that we don't get enough reports on, hehe. I'm thinking of doing that myself this year. Someone said you was the monger Superman so I'd be a waste to let your talents go cold turkey, LOL. Have a good year bro.
You are somewhat of a legend on this board. First and foremost I am glad to see that your health has returned to near 100. I have always enjoyed your contributions and lived vicariously through your posts. In a way I read what you have shared as if the little brother was listening to his big brothers escapades. I myself am in a financial bind, so I can relate to what you are feeling money wise. You seem like a person whom I would have to liked to have met in person, shake your hand, buy you a beer, and share some stories. BTW, your're a heterosexual male with a working penis. It's not an addiction, it's a curse. LOL. I wish the best of luck to you brother.
Aloha everyone! Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope your year is starting out well!
Back in September of '09 many of you may remember I was in a near-fatal auto accident that kept me off of the board for six months. Speculation ran wild that I had met the same fate as Kapalua. Anyway, I am finally back as close to 100% healthy as I will ever be. On the flip side now that I have my health, my finances have become a major concern to me.
This past fall I received a HUGE payment for past work that was owed me for several months. Of course, with Monica and Coco back in December, checking out many other girls in September, October and November, and taking a trip to Manila and fucking myself silly, I went through about half of that money! I had to take the remaining funds and put it in a place where it would be safe from my mongering ways; but be accessible through some bit of effort for my real living needs.
I will continue to read the board and of course be available via PM, but won't be mongering as I did before. To be as cash poor as I have been for the last four or five years, and then to blow though what should have been a very comfortable cushion in my finances has awakened me. I think this year I am going to look into getting help with this addiction. I am going to try to limit my visits to once a month, then once a quarter. I will see if I can adhere to that before seeking professional help. I don't want to quit, but rather limit my experience in the "provider" industry. I could never quit. I want to be realistic.
I wish you all well, and in no way am condemning the hobby or anyone at all. But rather finally realizing that I cannot participate anymore or else I will wind up homeless. It's amazing when I think of my situation in the late-'90s through mid-'00s. I had expendable income and thought that it would never end. I was spending $2400 (a dozen visits) per month easy back then. Oh the times, they are a changin'!
Wish me luck!
HypoYes Brother, I do remember that accident. It was so bad that your physical conditioning was a main contributing factor in your recovery; a lesser man may not have even survived.
I support you in your intentions to cut back. When I first stumbled upon AMPs, I could only afford to go once-in-a-great-while, so I know how you feel.
It is great that you are being 'realistic', after all, people have needs. You're a red-blooded man and what's natural is natural.
Although you will be cutting back, I hope that you will still be able to continue to provide guidance to the Forum.
Good luck Hypo Luxa and keep in touch,
H M
Aloha everyone! Hau'oli Makahiki Hou! Hope your year is starting out well!
Back in September of '09 many of you may remember I was in a near-fatal auto accident that kept me off of the board for six months. Speculation ran wild that I had met the same fate as Kapalua. Anyway, I am finally back as close to 100% healthy as I will ever be. On the flip side now that I have my health, my finances have become a major concern to me.
This past fall I received a HUGE payment for past work that was owed me for several months. Of course, with Monica and Coco back in December, checking out many other girls in September, October and November, and taking a trip to Manila and fucking myself silly, I went through about half of that money! I had to take the remaining funds and put it in a place where it would be safe from my mongering ways; but be accessible through some bit of effort for my real living needs.
I will continue to read the board and of course be available via PM, but won't be mongering as I did before. To be as cash poor as I have been for the last four or five years, and then to blow though what should have been a very comfortable cushion in my finances has awakened me. I think this year I am going to look into getting help with this addiction. I am going to try to limit my visits to once a month, then once a quarter. I will see if I can adhere to that before seeking professional help. I don't want to quit, but rather limit my experience in the "provider" industry. I could never quit. I want to be realistic.
I wish you all well, and in no way am condemning the hobby or anyone at all. But rather finally realizing that I cannot participate anymore or else I will wind up homeless. It's amazing when I think of my situation in the late-'90s through mid-'00s. I had expendable income and thought that it would never end. I was spending $2400 (a dozen visits) per month easy back then. Oh the times, they are a changin'!
Wish me luck!
HypoAt least you're not leaving for good. Looking forward to reading your future postings. Best of luck this year.
Crouchingtiger
01-02-12, 04:41
Best of luck. I know what you mean-I think we are all addicted to a degree. All the money I have spent since learning about AMPs or their derivitives has cost me lots since I started to earn a living. Being conservative- I estimate maybe 260G, basing on a quarter of a century, which if put in regular savings would have bought and paid for a nice house. If I started back when. Luckily not married or have a SO, so expenses can be wasted.
But I look at it also like well if I invested in the stock market-half of it would be gone-hehe.
Thats why I am glad I found this board so that I don't get blue balls and only go when there is a girl I must see. What helps is when these girls (favs) all go on vacation and to busy. Also made a promise not to go when my favorite pro football team was winning only losing (do you know how hard that is-literally and figuratively?). Anyway, save your money and recover. Best of luck in the new year.
Crouchingtiger
01-02-12, 04:50
If they get the idea that you just want a fling, that probably is already a no. Of course some girls are different and will go with you for x amount of dollars. All my experiences always dealt with a relationship thing with not costing much, but more headaches.These girls smell blood, if they can get you to buy them drinks, whether if KB or strip, why bother. You have to pick and watch how they operate. Maybe buy one token drink and talk nice and show you not interested. If they try ask you go back room, say you can't do it in a bar and that you are uncomfortable. Drop a hint, only way si back at your or their place. It takes time and money and being nice. Show that you are there to just cruz and drink and be nice. Won't work with all girls, but some will wonder what they got to do. Its the challenge to their ego. However don't have the time or inclanation, rather go for the guarens and get the AMP action.
ThirteenTwenty
01-02-12, 06:47
These girls smell blood, if they can get you to buy them drinks, whether if KB or strip, why bother. You have to pick and watch how they operate. Maybe buy one token drink and talk nice and show you not interested. If they try ask you go back room, say you can't do it in a bar and that you are uncomfortable. Drop a hint, only way si back at your or their place. It takes time and money and being nice. Show that you are there to just cruz and drink and be nice. Won't work with all girls, but some will wonder what they got to do. Its the challenge to their ego. However don't have the time or inclanation, rather go for the guarens and get the AMP action.Thanks to all that responded to my post original post. I've just returned and will be giving all of your recommendations a try. And after reading them I suppose staying some what sober would help a lot. And definitely limiting their nekos will be in the near future. I've never heard of the "home champagne" line will have to give that one a go in a few.
Will post back if / when something happens.
Again thanks a million and happy mongering to all in this new year!
Pau Hana Party
01-02-12, 14:24
I didn't know where to put this info in the forum, but I thought some mongers might want to know:
The ad says this time; only serving as a Dom.
http://hawaii.backpage.com/Domination/asian-dominatrix-amai-returns-_-_-_-_-_-21/3124600
Best of luck. I know what you mean-I think we are all addicted to a degree. All the money I have spent since learning about AMPs or their derivitives has cost me lots since I started to earn a living. Being conservative- I estimate maybe 260G, basing on a quarter of a century, which if put in regular savings would have bought and paid for a nice house. If I started back when. Luckily not married or have a SO, so expenses can be wasted.
But I look at it also like well if I invested in the stock market-half of it would be gone-hehe.
Thats why I am glad I found this board so that I don't get blue balls and only go when there is a girl I must see. What helps is when these girls (favs) all go on vacation and to busy. Also made a promise not to go when my favorite pro football team was winning only losing (do you know how hard that is-literally and figuratively?). Anyway, save your money and recover. Best of luck in the new year.First off, I want to respond to your statement about the stock market. I taught myself how to trade about 20 years ago and have used the profits from my successful trading to fund my mongering habits. I only went mongering when I had profitable days and most of my mongering activities occurred during the Internet "bubble years" between 1996-2004. Now I use currency trading profits to fund my mongering. The stock market is "old school". Only amateurs trade it nowadays. Now granted, I don't monger nowhere near as much as the boom years but I still manage to make more than enough profit to cover a few trips a month to the AMP.
My point is: I never once had to use my so called "job money" to monger. I think that is due in large part to my discipline from the training I learned from trading. I think what Hypo is doing now takes a lot of discipline. You have to eventually come to a point in your life when you do have to quit this stuff. It is damn hard to do believe me. In fact my experiences where that the more "easy money" I made trading the more I would spend it. There were days where I made $3 to $5K a day consistently for years trading and my mongering habits followed suit. During the days of themeetingplace and the old GAIH days I would see 3 to 4 AMP girls a day sometimes. I was like a junkie. I just could not get enough. I remember one day I did Bonnie from NY twice, Ann from China Spa, I then went back to NY and did Kittie. And to top it off that night I discovered that Linda was back at Kiku and did her twice in the early morning. I spent over $1k that day. It was nuts. But a strange thing has happened recently. Age has crept in and I just don't have the desire to go the AMP much anymore. Age screws everything up. Your testosterone levels drop, your desire drops, it also gets harder to maintain hardness and an erection. Nature and time will eventually "cure" your addiction. Its probably a good thing because now I have all this money and I don't want to spend it. Thank you mother time for curing my addiction. Time heals all wounds I guess.
In retrospect I have no regrets over the money I spent. I had some great great times. In fact I had three relationships with three AMP girls. One turned out shitty and I got burned (my stupidity as a newbie). But the other two went great. My best one was a great two year relationship with an AMP girl from Taiwan that I met at the Rainbow 7 around Piikoi. I truly regret breaking her heart though but I had too. Its a long story. Maybe one day I will tell it. But like I said I have no regrets. I would have probably wasted all those trading profits on stupid "material things" if I was not a monger. Actually I could have just took the money and bought myself a professional "ball washer". Now that would have been cool. My very own professional ball washer. Just bring her to parties and she is on her knees the whole time washing my balls. Top that!
I didn't know where to put this info in the forum, but I thought some mongers might want to know:
The ad says this time; only serving as a Dom.
http://hawaii.backpage.com/Domination/asian-dominatrix-amai-returns-_-_-_-_-_-21/3124600Can someone please explain to me why she qualifies as a so called "super star"? Am I missing something here?
First off, I want to respond to your statement about the stock market. I taught myself how to trade about? Years ago and have used the profits from my successful trading to fund my mongering habits. In retrospect I have no regrets over the money I spent. I had some great great times.Understand where you coming from budz. If it wasn't for my trading, not sure how my old acct. Exec. Job would have been able to support my habit. Not going to get into how my trading went, but I live very comfortable from a steady income&allowances from other investments, while making sure my daughters&grandkids are set for their future. Used the profits to invest in Currency, Gold, and RE (well did work with Ang & another BG who became a extremely successful RE that I still use today, that was WELL reviewed here and our old site&she still LOOKS TIGHT) , not only in Hawaii but other parts of the USA and abroad. Now, I don't trade as aggressively as back in the heydays of insanity and the bubbles, but we take advantage of opportunities.
No, I was not as banging as braddah Mi and another bud here who also traded, BUT I use to see; Indies&some famous PS&UTR's for extended OT, overnights, to weekends and even go to Maui (she always loves Maui PS&her bud). Had some long terms with Grace, Coco, Sunny, Blue, and Tomato. And yes, learned the hard way in the beggining when all it was about the $$$ and thinking with the wrong head, and all about her gettin HIGH! Live, learn, move forward. I always got along with Ang, and she is such a sweetheart and been on diff. Business ventures with her, its all good. Had a 5yr. Relationship with J until she had to go back to home to take care of her very sick mom, she wanted me to come with her, but my mom was also very sick, so we just keep in touch through cell / email / skype. Some of the other long relationships went awry bc of the chemicals, NOT me, I was into the all mighty $$$ and crown rocks. One sweetie is in heaven (reviewed here) , another is still tricking bc sometimes I see her DT, but NO WAY I would walk that track again. Another Indie / AMPG, went back to Cali to relax, and then when she came back to AMP. Noticed stretch marks, and yeah found out later she had one kid which lives with her sister in Cali, really not sure if was mine but when I saw pics of him, sure does look like my kids when they were that age. OH WELL.
Hard to say I outgrew the mongering, but I don't really do much (or stay stealth, unless I have something real good4share). I have met a few from CL and are steady FWB. One just came to visit her ohana4the holidays from Maui (she was born&raised here on the Wesside) for 2weeks, we keep texting and talking on the cell. Went out a few times, eat, movies, dancing, ended up making out Christmas Eve in Waiks, got a room by the Zoo, and banged our brains out for hours. She is cool, local flip / hawaiian girl, little older than me, but neva pound poi since her divorce 2yrs. Ago, so she was squirting all over the place. Its all good, kind of why I stay stealth, I love reading all of your expz. I guess I one old guy too, lucky I can still get it stiffee for without the V, and keep it up. I am lucky, plus it helps when I learned from Miko and her bud the Art of Her O. Keep it up friends, I am still around, missing the ole timers esp. Kapa (RIP). Malama and wishing you all a Healthy, Prosperous, and Banging 2012
Has anyone received threats via PM besides me? I got one saying eat shi. A$$hole. Soon the world will end. God will rid trash like me.
Has anyone received threats via PM besides me? I got one saying eat shi. A$$hole. Soon the world will end. God will rid trash like me.I used to get them all the time from that crazy guy thinking I was Sisi or her husband.
For the New Year, I wish my best and good health to all of you. I haven't been around that much this year as I had some health issues that are one the mend. I don't go to AMPs or bars as much as I also have a live in gf. I guess I have become a LVB. Monger safe, my brothers!
Has anyone received threats via PM besides me? I got one saying eat shi. A$$hole. Soon the world will end. God will rid trash like me.I haven't gotten any, yet, but I don't post much electing to stay under the radar most of the time. I hope no more get passed around. Hopefully, it'll be a good year CK. Stay safe out there.
Can someone please explain to me why she qualifies as a so called "super star"? Am I missing something here?She's probably called a super star because she is a famous porn star.
She's probably called a super star because she is a famous porn star.
Yuuup! That she is. Also, yuuup! she looks like some regular, local asian teen broad. Perhaps college coed or someone of legal age (by chance). hahaha!
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What is this world coming into with gay and lesbian "civil unions", sure glad they have not yet "dominate" this forum.The world is coming "into" the light... or "out of" the dark ages. Nothing wrong with two people who love each other, no matter their sex, entering into a civil union.
And to top it off that night I discovered that Linda was back at Kiku and did her twice in the early morning.Do you remember a Japanese provider who's name I think was Yoko at Kiku?
Last Wednesday I got picked up from a vice on BP. It's my first offense need some help should I plead guilty or not guilty? Do I need a lawyer present also. Don't know much on these types of things. Aloha.
Last Wednesday I got picked up from a vice on BP. It's my first offense need some help should I plead guilty or not guilty? Do I need a lawyer present also. Don't know much on these types of things. Aloha.Since its your first offense, should be just a slap on the wrist if you plead guilty. But its kind of hard to determine what you should plead without knowing the details. If you can, consult a lawyer and give him EVERY detail on that night.
RadioHazard
01-05-12, 15:07
Last Wednesday I got picked up from a vice on BP. It's my first offense need some help should I plead guilty or not guilty? Do I need a lawyer present also. Don't know much on these types of things. Aloha.If you want to get off on this. Than you will need a GOOD attorney that will find a loop hole for a not guilty. I would say make sure you find one that has done this before. Otherwise it could be waste of money.
If you want to get off on this. Than you will need a GOOD attorney that will find a loop hole for a not guilty. I would say make sure you find one that has done this before. Otherwise it could be waste of money.Thanks got a family at home and don't want to lose them.
They caught me with a.
712-1200 (agree for soliciting a prostitute)
Since its your first offense, should be just a slap on the wrist if you plead guilty. But its kind of hard to determine what you should plead without knowing the details. If you can, consult a lawyer and give him EVERY detail on that night.712-1200 agreeing of soliciting prostitution.
Jan Fortifore
01-05-12, 19:57
Last Wednesday I got picked up from a vice on BP. It's my first offense need some help should I plead guilty or not guilty? Do I need a lawyer present also. Don't know much on these types of things. Aloha.I am sorry to read this brother. As a warning, please post the backpage ad to which you responded. This way, your fellow mongers can recognize which ones to avoid. I hope it wasn't this one again:
http://www.adultsearch.com/hi/honolulu/FemaleEscorts/453138
This ad was the bane of another brother last summer. 864-0780 was the number he called.
Laaate!
Jan Fortifore
Captain Nemo
01-05-12, 20:05
I didn't know where to put this info in the forum, but I thought some mongers might want to know:
The ad says this time; only serving as a Dom.
http://hawaii.backpage.com/Domination/asian-dominatrix-amai-returns-_-_-_-_-_-21/3124600She's well established in the porn biz and has done lots of work. Looks like she's already completely booked for this trip. But for those of that bent, she might interesting next time.
Here's more info about her than you probably want to know:
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=amailiu/gender=f/amai-liu.htm
Be safe,
C. N.
I am sorry to read this brother. As a warning, please post the backpage ad to which you responded. This way, your fellow mongers can recognize which ones to avoid. I hope it wasn't this one again:
http://www.adultsearch.com/hi/honolulu/FemaleEscorts/453138
This ad was the bane of another brother last summer. 864-0780 was the number he called.
Laaate!
Jan FortiforeArrested 8:00pm.
Made bail out at 9:30pm.
Ad was taken down.
The number was 808-224-something. 5'5 125lbs local brunette. She gave me a hug right off the bat and asks If I was a cop. I asked if she was and she said no. Then she wanted to talk prices in the streets also. Should of known right off the bat. Learn from my mistakes fellow Mongers aloha and be safe.
712-1200 agreeing of soliciting prostitution.I mean give a detailed story on what happened. A good attorney may find a hole in there to get you off.
MikeWatson
01-05-12, 23:18
Since its your first offense, should be just a slap on the wrist if you plead guilty. But its kind of hard to determine what you should plead without knowing the details. If you can, consult a lawyer and give him EVERY detail on that night.The purpose of any sting is to take hard core criminals off the streets. Anytime a person is caught that does not have a previous record, I consider an enticement.
Also, was there a prostitute present when you were arrested. If not then "enticement" seems a logical conclusion. Anyway, I do agree with Blade82 and suggest you see an attorney.
Good Luck.
Uncle Mikey
ProjectUltra
01-06-12, 07:00
Greetings. Long time reader, now re-registered under a different username and posting.
New to Hawaii and I have a question. I've hit the Pink and Golden Queen AMPs a total of 3 times since being here. They were pretty good (see my post in the AMP forum) , but to be honest I am looking for something different.
I was wondering if there were any decent escort agencies that had different selection of girls. Specifically, looking for caucasian or hawaiian girl. I've cruised the streets in Waikiki and downtown, but I'm really wary about going the streetwalker route.
I've looked at backpage, but I like the sure thing experience that you get at an AMP or escort incall agency.
By the way, thank you for this website and its sister internationalsexguide. I've traveled all over this country and world (job related) and these sites have been a godsend. Hope to contribute to its continued success.
The purpose of any sting is to take hard core criminals off the streets. Anytime a person is caught that does not have a previous record, I consider an enticement.
Also, was there a prostitute present when you were arrested. If not then "enticement" seems a logical conclusion. Anyway, I do agree with Blade82 and suggest you see an attorney.
Good Luck.
Uncle MikeyDamm seems better to hit up AMPs.
Arrested 8:00pm.
Made bail out at 9:30pm.
Ad was taken down.
The number was 808-224-something. 5'5 125lbs local brunette. She gave me a hug right off the bat and asks If I was a cop. I asked if she was and she said no. Then she wanted to talk prices in the streets also. Should of known right off the bat. Learn from my mistakes fellow Mongers aloha and be safe.Can you describe what this local chick looked like?
Arrested 8:00pm.
Made bail out at 9:30pm.
Ad was taken down.
The number was 808-224-something. 5'5 125lbs local brunette. She gave me a hug right off the bat and asks If I was a cop. I asked if she was and she said no. Then she wanted to talk prices in the streets also. Should of known right off the bat. Learn from my mistakes fellow Mongers aloha and be safe.Does this REALLY need to have a "special", lmao. Something smells fishy and I don't mean nani-fish, LOL.
http://www.adultsearch.com/hi/honolulu/FemaleEscorts/531700
She's pregnant. She said so a little while ago. Guess fireman got lucky.Yup. Obviously preggo now.
Arrested 8:00pm.
Made bail out at 9:30pm.
Ad was taken down.
The number was 808-224-something. 5'5 125lbs local brunette. She gave me a hug right off the bat and asks If I was a cop. I asked if she was and she said no. Then she wanted to talk prices in the streets also. Should of known right off the bat. Learn from my mistakes fellow Mongers aloha and be safe.Oo, everything sounds sketchy. First she greets you with a hug, then she denies she is LE, and then she shoots prices with you? I'm no lawyer but this totally sounds like entrapment. Consult a lawyer for sure
Greetings. Long time reader, now re-registered under a different username and posting.
New to Hawaii and I have a question. I've hit the Pink and Golden Queen AMPs a total of 3 times since being here. They were pretty good (see my post in the AMP forum) , but to be honest I am looking for something different.
I was wondering if there were any decent escort agencies that had different selection of girls. Specifically, looking for caucasian or hawaiian girl. I've cruised the streets in Waikiki and downtown, but I'm really wary about going the streetwalker route.
I've looked at backpage, but I like the sure thing experience that you get at an AMP or escort incall agency.
By the way, thank you for this website and its sister internationalsexguide. I've traveled all over this country and world (job related) and these sites have been a godsend. Hope to contribute to its continued success.Try check eros, whatever good escorts and agencies are available would be posted there. In Hawaii business is with the AMP so you won't find a ton.
Greetings. Long time reader, now re-registered under a different username and posting.
New to Hawaii and I have a question. I've hit the Pink and Golden Queen AMPs a total of 3 times since being here. They were pretty good (see my post in the AMP forum) , but to be honest I am looking for something different.
I was wondering if there were any decent escort agencies that had different selection of girls. Specifically, looking for caucasian or hawaiian girl. I've cruised the streets in Waikiki and downtown, but I'm really wary about going the streetwalker route.
I've looked at backpage, but I like the sure thing experience that you get at an AMP or escort incall agency.
By the way, thank you for this website and its sister internationalsexguide. I've traveled all over this country and world (job related) and these sites have been a godsend. Hope to contribute to its continued success.Check out hula or VIP for asian, local, white girls.
Last Wednesday I got picked up from a vice on BP. It's my first offense need some help should I plead guilty or not guilty? Do I need a lawyer present also. Don't know much on these types of things. Aloha.I have looked over the most recent version of HRS 712-1200 Relating to prostitution. The most relevant portion is quoted here:
§712-1200 Prostitution. (1) A person commits the offense of prostitution if the person:
(a) Engages in, or agrees or offers to engage in, sexual conduct with another person for a fee; or.
(be) Pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay a fee to another to engage in sexual conduct.
This incorporates the changes made in the last legislative session that made it possible for police to arrest clients in sting operations. We heard about Obama's golf buddy and now Jbones. The common element here is the use by police of websites like Craigslist and Backpage to set up the sting.
I see no reasonable way that police could set up such a sting in an AMP. They would have to have a police woman, preferably a Korean national, solicit employment from the MS and then actually be in the room and discuss payment with the customer. She would then need to have a radio link to cops waiting outside or else she would have to actually do the deed which is highly unlikely. Kind of hard to wear a wire when you have a nightgown or bikini on.
As far as cops coming in to an AMP when you are in the room, police could arrest you but I don't think you could be convicted, unless they came in the room just as $$ were changing hands (highly unlikely). Even if you were doing the deed in full climax, any decent lawyer would simply point out in the preliminary hearing that police evidence did not include an observation of payment or agreement to pay. The downside for mongers is that police may try to use their new muscle to make arrests at AMP's that they know will not lead to conviction. This could go on for a while until a judge slaps them down. The big penalty for an arrest is not the potential $500 fine. It is the public embarrassment for all and potential family repercussions for married mongers. For now we have not seen such arrests at AMP's but only stings based on internet solicitation. Moral (for me at least) is stick with the AMP's and stay away from the outcalls and streetwalkers. Better yet stick to places and providers you know.
I will not detail it here but if you look at the testimony on the record in last years hearings, you will see that the focus is on street prostitution and pimping. Even if an AMP-MS is busted for §712-1201 Promoting prostitution, she probably could mount a defense claiming that her $50 is simply for the use of facilities, as it actually is. If I was a lawyer for a MS I certainly would advise her to never answer client questions about anything that goes on in the room, especially prices for service. We all know #1-$50, #2-$100, #3-150 but MS should never let these things cross her lips.
There is an interesting commentary (not an actual part of the statute) in the books about how futile and actually counterproductive prostitution laws are. It actually makes an argument to legalization. One section says: "Making prostitution a criminal offense is one method of controlling the scope of prostitution and thereby protecting those segments of society which are offended by its open existence." I think this may be why cops are relatively tolerant of AMP's as long as they keep a low profile, busts are actually rather infrequent. I notice a new place is frequently busted but think this is just the cops way of showing who is boss.
Sorry for rambling on. Link here:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1200.htm
Little Dickie
01-06-12, 19:58
As others have said, AMPs are the big thing here, and you can get a pretty much guaranteed experience, especially using these forums for research. If you are interested in escorts, there are some good escorts here, but many come and go. Mostly touring escorts stopping in Hawaii. When Hawaii has a really good oneat actually lives here, she usually leaves for greener pastures. EROS has had upwards of 35 ladies advertising at once, and as low as 6. I think right now it is about 10. I guess it is a slow time right now. Some of the ladies on eros can be scams or flakes just like with other ad sites. So always check them out for reviews and information elsewhere using google and review sites. Another escort ad site is ********. As for agencies, Volcano Girls has been around a long time and is wel established. Some of the VG ladies have excellent reviews and some not so good, so it is still good to check theim out. Nothing is guaranteed. Sometimes there are some gems on backpage, but it takes a lot of weeding out of the bad ones.
Greetings. Long time reader, now re-registered under a different username and posting.
New to Hawaii and I have a question. I've hit the Pink and Golden Queen AMPs a total of 3 times since being here. They were pretty good (see my post in the AMP forum) , but to be honest I am looking for something different.
I was wondering if there were any decent escort agencies that had different selection of girls. Specifically, looking for caucasian or hawaiian girl. I've cruised the streets in Waikiki and downtown, but I'm really wary about going the streetwalker route.
I've looked at backpage, but I like the sure thing experience that you get at an AMP or escort incall agency.
By the way, thank you for this website and its sister internationalsexguide. I've traveled all over this country and world (job related) and these sites have been a godsend. Hope to contribute to its continued success.
Darkman808
01-06-12, 21:29
Moral (for me at least) is stick with the AMP's and stay away from the outcalls and streetwalkers. Better yet stick to places and providers you know.
[/url]Agree, strongly. As I've posted before, I gave up on SW's years ago for this very reason. To each his own. Perhaps single mongers who have no shame or nothing to lose don't care about being busted. Me? I stay with AMPs and well reviewed escorts (on boards or websites or other monger referrals). I can't survive the public embarrassment. More importantly, I'm just a pussy and afraid I might get hit (ROB) by an SW or her friend. It's just too damn spooky doing business on the street.
Stay safe brothers. Keep those radars up and on.
Member #3973
01-07-12, 01:11
I see no reasonable way that police could set up such a sting in an AMP. .I agree a sting against mongers at an AMP is much, much less likely than on BP or the streets. However, IF it happens, make sure not to tell LE anything except your name and address (as required by law). LE will imply that girls have already told them that they have admitted pay for sex, but do NOT believe it. Do not deny it, just do not admit it. Hopefully the AMP girls will know NOT to admit to any sex for pay. If both mongers and AMP girls remain silent, LE will have not have a case.
It is important not to lie to the police, but you can always refuse to talk. USE that right! Except for your identity, tell them your have no further comments without a lawyer. That is your right.
Apart from that, I fully agree that AMPs are way safer than any other options. Good luck!
I have looked over the most recent version of HRS 712-1200 Relating to prostitution. The most relevant portion is quoted here:
§712-1200 Prostitution. (1) A person commits the offense of prostitution if the person:
(a) Engages in, or agrees or offers to engage in, sexual conduct with another person for a fee; or.
(b) Pays, agrees to pay, or offers to pay a fee to another to engage in sexual conduct.
This incorporates the changes made in the last legislative session that made it possible for police to arrest clients in sting operations. We heard about Obama's golf buddy and now Jbones. The common element here is the use by police of websites like Craigslist and Backpage to set up the sting.
I see no reasonable way that police could set up such a sting in an AMP. They would have to have a police woman, preferably a Korean national, solicit employment from the MS and then actually be in the room and discuss payment with the customer. She would then need to have a radio link to cops waiting outside or else she would have to actually do the deed which is highly unlikely. Kind of hard to wear a wire when you have a nightgown or bikini on.
As far as cops coming in to an AMP when you are in the room, police could arrest you but I don't think you could be convicted, unless they came in the room just as $$ were changing hands (highly unlikely). Even if you were doing the deed in full climax, any decent lawyer would simply point out in the preliminary hearing that police evidence did not include an observation of payment or agreement to pay. The downside for mongers is that police may try to use their new muscle to make arrests at AMP's that they know will not lead to conviction. This could go on for a while until a judge slaps them down. The big penalty for an arrest is not the potential $500 fine. It is the public embarrassment for all and potential family repercussions for married mongers. For now we have not seen such arrests at AMP's but only stings based on internet solicitation. Moral (for me at least) is stick with the AMP's and stay away from the outcalls and streetwalkers. Better yet stick to places and providers you know.
I will not detail it here but if you look at the testimony on the record in last years hearings, you will see that the focus is on street prostitution and pimping. Even if an AMP-MS is busted for §712-1201 Promoting prostitution, she probably could mount a defense claiming that her $50 is simply for the use of facilities, as it actually is. If I was a lawyer for a MS I certainly would advise her to never answer client questions about anything that goes on in the room, especially prices for service. We all know #1-$50, #2-$100, #3-150 but MS should never let these things cross her lips.
There is an interesting commentary (not an actual part of the statute) in the books about how futile and actually counterproductive prostitution laws are. It actually makes an argument to legalization. One section says: "Making prostitution a criminal offense is one method of controlling the scope of prostitution and thereby protecting those segments of society which are offended by its open existence." I think this may be why cops are relatively tolerant of AMP's as long as they keep a low profile, busts are actually rather infrequent. I notice a new place is frequently busted but think this is just the cops way of showing who is boss.
Sorry for rambling on. Link here:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1200.htmI am not anywhere near being a lawyer but I do know that Johns and owners of AMPs could be busted as felons now since law passed and became effective in July last year. And if politicians and LEs want to shut down every relaxation place and AMPs they can do so easily. Every single one. I don't know how Rosemarri got brought down but I heard feds were involved, IRS and immigration. Maybe Rose was not an experienced businesswoman and brought heat on herself. Regardless, I think all the brothels are allowed to operate by the good graces of the powers that be. And hopefully they have more common sense than to succumb to the pressure of activists, the militant feminists and the religious prudes.
ThirteenTwenty
01-07-12, 07:30
These girls smell blood, if they can get you to buy them drinks, whether if KB or strip, why bother. You have to pick and watch how they operate. Maybe buy one token drink and talk nice and show you not interested. If they try ask you go back room, say you can't do it in a bar and that you are uncomfortable. Drop a hint, only way si back at your or their place. It takes time and money and being nice. Show that you are there to just cruz and drink and be nice. Won't work with all girls, but some will wonder what they got to do. Its the challenge to their ego. However don't have the time or inclanation, rather go for the guarens and get the AMP action.Tonight was the first night I was really able to try some of the suggestions given by everyone and I think I got a foot in the door here. I guess it'll just take some time before the girls "accept" me. I ended up at an AMP across from 939 (makai) upstairs, after someone (a fellow monger I guess) suggested it. I don't know the name of the place but was greeted by mama and placed in a the stock and standard room, had and a nice MILF named Rose, she was pretty eager to please and seemed pretty playful. I'm still not sure as to the rating system here (I did see a post that outlined it but am to lazy atm to dig for it) but in my current state of drunkeness (about a 6. 5 of 10) I would repeat. There were 4 rooms that I saw and did shower before and was treated to a nice scrub down afterwards. I did tell her that I would do it if she went went me though.
I will continue to try the suggestions given to me in other posts and give feed back as appropriate.
Thank you all once again for giving an oldish dog some new tricks to try.
On to other questions:
I read a lot about folks making appointments. When trying someplace new is it customary to make an appointment or is it better to do a "walk in" such as I did tonight? I as only because I read about great service from providers like Monica and really don't want to offend / get it wrong when in search of a new regular.
Like I said before, I'm not new to the game, I'm just looking for better service.
PopoloGirl
01-07-12, 14:42
The cost for the attorney will be well worth it. Its always better to NOT have this on your record. Atty can get it changed to a lesser offense, one not so incriminating by the name itself.
Last Wednesday I got picked up from a vice on BP. It's my first offense need some help should I plead guilty or not guilty? Do I need a lawyer present also. Don't know much on these types of things. Aloha.
I am not anywhere near being a lawyer but I do know that Johns and owners of AMPs could be busted as felons now since law passed and became effective in July last year. And if politicians and LEs want to shut down every relaxation place and AMPs they can do so easily. Every single one. I don't know how Rosemarri got brought down but I heard feds were involved, IRS and immigration. Maybe Rose was not an experienced businesswoman and brought heat on herself. Regardless, I think all the brothels are allowed to operate by the good graces of the powers that be. And hopefully they have more common sense than to succumb to the pressure of activists, the militant feminists and the religious prudes.I think you are right that owners could be busted as felons but wrong about customers. The only charge that could stick on a customer is the misdemeanor prostitution charge. In fact the "prostitute or a patron of a prostitute" are specifically exempted from the felony charge. Look at the statute again:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1201.htm
(the definition of promoting prostitution)
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1202.htm
(makes promotion a Class A Felony)
Even if they never said the wrong words as I suggested in my first post, MS's could probably be felony busted for "permits premises to be regularly used for prostitution purposes" particularly if prosecutors could show a pattern of successful misdemeanor prosecutions of the girls over a period of time. There is a real danger to mongers if MS's and owners are felony convicted because it could make owners unwilling to keep their businesses open. The AMP supply could dry up and prices could rise. In fact an ex-SO of mine was considering buying out an existing AMP location in early 2011 when the changes were still in the legislature and I advised her not to buy because of the felony aspect.
I might add that it would seem a little cruel to jail that "ajima" in the apron as most are just hired help.
In fact most of the testimony at the capitol was about pimps and the intent was to reduce prostitution by taking away the incentive for pimps. Most of the Waikiki girls are on a circuit. If a few pimps are jailed for a year or more they may take Honolulu off their itineraries.
You are also right about a lot of busts being for other than prostitution. Several years ago, I was in the old Pine Tree when cops came in ski masks and all. A female cop looked in our room (I barely had my pants on) and just said "Stay in this room" and left. It turns out they were looking for a specific girl on drug charges. On other occasions, I have been told by providers that the bust at XXX place were not a big deal to them because it was for immigration. The wiser owners check new girls for green card or US citizenship. It was indirect but remember Sakura on Rycroft closed because the building owners were busted for gambling elsewhere in the building. Owner of Happiness lounge went to jail, I think in the late 80's, on IRS charges.
Fact remains: best to be careful and stick to places you know.
View from the mainland. I have heard of two reverse stings. First was at an Asian AAMP in Costa Mesa. 15 yrs ago, a city with tons of AMPs. They turned the MS, and she set up the customer with voice / wire and got for solicitation. Why they went to the trouble I don't know, as it the area there were other AMPs over the years.
The other was in the last two years in Fountain Valley, a city not tolerant of any funny business. They replaced the whole staff with decoys, both Asian and white for a few days and got about 10 mongers. They were sending a big message, be very low key.
I like the idea in Hawaii of girls in bikinis etc. Can't recall any places like that around So Calif.
You guys are having more fun then us, as table shower and GFE and are about non existent in So Calif AMPs a a normal routine.
When my reservoir is full, meaning I have not busted a nut for 5, 6, or 7 days, it is very hard to have stamina. And if I don't want to beat off and I am not getting freebie, it is not as much fun going to AMPs once a week or once every two weeks and come prematurely or quickly. Does anyone have any suggestions in fixing this problem. I have to take the pill on an empty stomach anyway. Would stronger dosage on a really empty stomach make a difference?
Thanks
Member #3973
01-07-12, 20:48
I think you are right that owners could be busted as felons but wrong about customers. The only charge that could stick on a customer is the misdemeanor prostitution charge. In fact the "prostitute or a patron of a prostitute" are specifically exempted from the felony charge. Look at the statute again:
Very informative post T6650.
But, it appears to me that if a customer gets busted and convicted a third time it is now a felony: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1209_0005.htm. The law also discuss the felony aspects of promoting The owner or MS are more likely to face a class B felony if convicted:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1204.htm
AMPs are the least likely place to get in trouble. I have never heard about any AMP customers getting busted in HNL at least. Personally, I stay away from SWs and BP-ads.
Do you remember a Japanese provider who's name I think was Yoko at Kiku?About what time period was this? Was she local Japanese or from Japan?
.it is very hard to have stamina. And if I don't want to beat off and I am not getting freebie, it is not as much fun going to AMPs once a week or once every two weeks and come prematurely or quickly.I never go anywhere "loaded" unless it is with a provider with guaranteed multiple shots. Usually "prepping" myself once or twice before seeing a provider does the trick. But two providers have actually shot that to Hell. Every time I used to see Choi at Kool's, she'd milk me quick! Something about her makes me pop no matter what. And more recently Viet Lily. I prepped "three" times throughout the day before seeing her last week and she still made me pop twice in 30 minutes!
Why are you not willing to beat off before going? For me, except where noted above, it has been bullet proof preparation! Sooooo glad I don't use alcohol anymore like I used to.
RadioHazard
01-07-12, 21:43
I never go anywhere "loaded" unless it is with a provider with guaranteed multiple shots. Usually "prepping" myself once or twice before seeing a provider does the trick. But two providers have actually shot that to Hell. Every time I used to see Choi at Kool's, she'd milk me quick! Something about her makes me pop no matter what. And more recently Viet Lily. I prepped "three" times throughout the day before seeing her last week and she still made me pop twice in 30 minutes!
Why are you not willing to beat off before going? For me, except where noted above, it has been bullet proof preparation! Sooooo glad I don't use alcohol anymore like I used to.I have not idea when this changed but when I first started AMPs no matter what or pretty much who I would pop in 15 min sometimes way sooner if the girl was hot. These days I feel (probably due to this board) I see much hotter and more service oriented girls but I take a lot lot longer to pop and sometimes have to settle for a HJ to finish. Never taken viagra.
Hypo I had the same thing with choi the hottest AMP girls would take at least 20 min but with Choi it was quick. Not like she is that hot. I never figured it out which I think is why I am thinking about giving her a try and again. I always wished she was was in a AMP and not KB. Maybe I should try to choi takeout.
But, it appears to me that if a customer gets busted and convicted a third time it is now a felony:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1209_0005.htm
AMPs are the least likely place to get in trouble. I have never heard about any AMP customers getting busted in HNL at least. Personally, I stay away from SWs and BP-ads.I missed that one but three times in ten years would be a stretch considering how tough it would be to set up the reverse sting as detailed by our visitor from mainland.
View from the mainland. I have heard of two reverse stings. First was at an Asian AAMP in Costa Mesa. 15 yrs ago, a city with tons of AMPs. They turned the MS, and she set up the customer with voice / wire and got for solicitation. Why they went to the trouble I don't know, as it the area there were other AMPs over the years.
The other was in the last two years in Fountain Valley, a city not tolerant of any funny business. They replaced the whole staff with decoys, both Asian and white for a few days and got about 10 mongers. They were sending a big message, be very low key.Hopefully our local LE would not go to this kind of trouble. Notice this was 15 and 2 years ago and in different jurisdictions, hardly frequently. It also sounds like there may have been some other agenda in the Costa Mesa case. I really think there is some kind of tacit tolerance of AMP's in our Vice Div."Out of sight is out of mind."
Member #3973
01-07-12, 22:15
I agree that reverse stings in AMPs are very rare. Mostly the activity in AMPs are fairly discreet and does not offend the public. The commentary in the law seems to acknowledge that:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0712/HRS_0712-1200.htm
Most LE activity is targeting streetwalkers since they are offending people who lives in the neighborhoods where they operate.
When my reservoir is full, meaning I have not busted a nut for 5, 6, or 7 days, it is very hard to have stamina. And if I don't want to beat off and I am not getting freebie, it is not as much fun going to AMPs once a week or once every two weeks and come prematurely or quickly. Does anyone have any suggestions in fixing this problem. I have to take the pill on an empty stomach anyway. Would stronger dosage on a really empty stomach make a difference?
ThanksIf you are having stamina problems it is your body telling you that you are out of shape. In fact it is because you have a bad heart. Probably one of the reasons you have to take Viagra in the first place. The only thing that will increase your stamina is to improve your overall health and exercise. Of course people don't want to hear that because improving your overall health requires hard work and discipline. Lazy people would just rather pop a pill. Do a lot of aerobic and anerobic exercises at least 3-4 times a week and your stamina will improve guaranteed. Stay away from fast food and greasy local food also. Eat a high protein high fiber, low saturated fat / low cholesterol diet and your stamina will improve. But most of all exercise. Nothing has increased my stamina more than exercising. Nothing, no drugs, no ripoff supplements, no beating off before etc. In fact I am the exact opposite of Hypo. I last way way longer when I don't beat off before I go to the AMP.
Not trying to lecture you or anything but it is just the facts that your doctor or urologist (who prescribed your Viagra) will / should eventually tell you. If your doctor doesn't tell you these things you should replace him / her.
Good Luck.
Member #4163
01-08-12, 06:05
[QUOTE=Mipene77; 1354750]If you are having stamina problems it is your body telling you that you are out of shape. In fact it is because you have a bad heart. Probably one of the reasons you have to take Viagra in the first place.
Hmmmm I just had to comment on this. I sometimes have this problem as well of not lasting long enough in my books. Alcohol (excessive amounts) and beating off seem to be be the only things that help this. Beating it before seeing a provider however has back fired on me a few times though in me losing interest and start thinking with my real head.
Anyhow back to the out of shape part. I am not out of shape. In fact I do excersise almost everyday. My regimen includes surfing (as big waves Hawaii can offer) , crossfit, and yoga. I just did the marathon without running more than 8 miles the entire year and finished it in 5hours. I'm not saying all this to boast or anything like that, I'm just giving you my background. I feel that my mind is strong and most times I get caught up in the moment and get too excited, splat. Other than that I've been trying those kegal excersises out only time will tell.
Be safe all.
Phil-
If you are having stamina problems it is your body telling you that you are out of shape. In fact it is because you have a bad heart. Probably one of the reasons you have to take Viagra in the first place. The only thing that will increase your stamina is to improve your overall health and exercise. Of course people don't want to hear that because improving your overall health requires hard work and discipline. Lazy people would just rather pop a pill. Do a lot of aerobic and anerobic exercises at least 3-4 times a week and your stamina will improve guaranteed. Stay away from fast food and greasy local food also. Eat a high protein high fiber, low saturated fat / low cholesterol diet and your stamina will improve. But most of all exercise. Nothing has increased my stamina more than exercising. Nothing, no drugs, no ripoff supplements, no beating off before etc. In fact I am the exact opposite of Hypo. I last way way longer when I don't beat off before I go to the AMP.
Not trying to lecture you or anything but it is just the facts that your doctor or urologist (who prescribed your Viagra) will / should eventually tell you. If your doctor doesn't tell you these things you should replace him / her.
Good Luck.Are you referring to fitness relating to being able to get hard and needing viagra, or stamina not to pop quickly? Because I can tell you that I have been supremely fit at various times, and still had problems lasting long. Age has seemed to have tempered that significantly as I last much, much longer now. Anyway, I could see fitness relating to ability to get and maintain erections, but personally haven't seen it affect the stamina issue.
I never go anywhere "loaded" unless it is with a provider with guaranteed multiple shots. Usually "prepping" myself once or twice before seeing a provider does the trick. But two providers have actually shot that to Hell. Every time I used to see Choi at Kool's, she'd milk me quick! Something about her makes me pop no matter what. And more recently Viet Lily. I prepped "three" times throughout the day before seeing her last week and she still made me pop twice in 30 minutes!
Why are you not willing to beat off before going? For me, except where noted above, it has been bullet proof preparation! Sooooo glad I don't use alcohol anymore like I used to.Have not beat off since started mongering. Not once. Not going to do it. If I did I won't be able to pop off again the same day. Even as a younger man I could not pop off more than once a day.
Don't know Choi or Kool's. Don't know KB. But this reference piques my interest.
There is some special magic to Viet Lily at Roses. I have to admit. But I am concerned. She seems to be very cavalier about BBFSCIP. Other providers with whom I have done that were very concerned about cleaning up or using spermicide very quickly after exposure. Viet Lily did not seem to have this urgency. I am not sure why.
If you are having stamina problems it is your body telling you that you are out of shape. In fact it is because you have a bad heart. Probably one of the reasons you have to take Viagra in the first place. The only thing that will increase your stamina is to improve your overall health and exercise. Of course people don't want to hear that because improving your overall health requires hard work and discipline. Lazy people would just rather pop a pill. Do a lot of aerobic and anerobic exercises at least 3-4 times a week and your stamina will improve guaranteed. Stay away from fast food and greasy local food also. Eat a high protein high fiber, low saturated fat / low cholesterol diet and your stamina will improve. But most of all exercise. Nothing has increased my stamina more than exercising. Nothing, no drugs, no ripoff supplements, no beating off before etc. In fact I am the exact opposite of Hypo. I last way way longer when I don't beat off before I go to the AMP.
Not trying to lecture you or anything but it is just the facts that your doctor or urologist (who prescribed your Viagra) will / should eventually tell you. If your doctor doesn't tell you these things you should replace him / her.
Good Luck.I have been exercising. Lost 15 lbs before mongering and another 15 lbs since started mongering. Been lifting weights and gotten into good muscular shape better than anytime in the last ten years. Providers have noticed and made flattering comments. All a middle age man can hope for. But I get your point especially when I have trouble doing aerobic and cardio exericse. Just cannot do cardio like I did as a younger man. Probably some heart / lung problem. Once in a while I get irregular heartbeats. Medical stress tests on the heart don't show much. But I get winded quickly. Can walk briskly on the treadmill at the gym but really cannot run and don't even try. Just cannot do spinning bike classes the way other people can. I guess they are as good an indication of cardiovascular fitness or lack there of that would have consequences on ED, if not on stamina. Taking the fake viagra on an empty stomach takes care of the ED problem. Mongering sessions on consecutive days or with few days in between will normally allow for acceptable stamina. But I am projecting for this year with longer streches between mongering sessions and I worry about coming to soon.
I wish I had started mongering decades ago. I just was not aware of the option. I thought streetwalkers were the only option. And with the exception of a couple encounters in the early 90s with streetwalkers in Waikiki done through a drunken haze that were not fulfulling, I did not try again. And I did not go to KBs. Had I been aware of the AMPs option and its predecessors in the 00s. 90s and before, the course of my life, not just sex life, would have been very different. Certainly the motivation to earn more money to sustain a mongering habit would have affected educational and career choices and paths in a productive way. And there would have been self-control and discipline accrued over time and tempered with other activities and temptations that younger people had. There would have been alcohol. There would not have been viagra. For the life of me I just did not get the information about AMPs from a few hints friends dropped that would have led to more inquiry and investigation of AMPs five, ten, and fifteen years ago.
The reality is late introduction to mongering, timed coincidentally with midlife crisis, led to a mongering binge that has led to financial distress. I could have had a blast with a small fraction of mongering that I did, but I did not control myself. And the realization of an addiction has come only when the financial distress could no longer be ignored. Some friends privy to what was going on tried halfheartedly to talk sense into me, but I did not listen as I should have in the beginning. I felt that I needed to catch up. The fun was just too great. I had viagra. I had quit drinking and golf and started working out to gain confidence. I thought I would cut back next week or next month, and I can binge now. And next week and next month would be put off and put off again as long as there were immediate funds to play. And now with the reality of a broken piggy bank and the realization of an addiction, I am thinking along the lines of budgeting mongering. This may work, but most likely just more dysfunctional rationalization. Most likely I would have to abstain for a period of time so the urges are completely gone and I finally get a good grip on my affairs, financial and otherwise, that have been badly affected by binge mongering. There really is no other way, is there? There is nothing else counseling or therapy could tell me that would work, is there?
I wish I had listened to others on the board and not do repeats more than a couple of times max with any given provider. Fuck them and run. Move on. As others have said, the whole point of mongering is to avoid mind games and strings attachment that plague real relationships. How ironic and self destructive, then, would it be to look for connections with the pros beyond the transient pleasure of renting for the hour in a business transaction? Only someone who is pathetic and emotionally vulnerable would fall prey to the smoke and mirrors of the AMPs girls and their marketing. Repeats are a double edged sword. Both parties may benefit from rapport and discount, but the risk of feelings coming into play gets higher and higher as time goes on, despite best intentions from both sides.
The reality is that I did an insane number of sessions with the ATF of the ATFs. The one I was with the very first time at an AMP and who gave me big discount to come back to see her. Yes, there may have been some comfort and rapport that led to the discount and my using the discount. Regardless, the sheer number of encounters with one provider led to lines being crossed in the business relationship. I became emotionally involved. I thought we were friends and would be friends outside of business and after business would be over. Found out after nine good months that we really were not friends. I was just a customer and a wallet. Then the business relationship blew up in the most rediculous kind of way involving a misunderstanding with another woman in the same AMP. Lack of communication led to a series of further misunderstandings and hurtful messages that could not be retracted. And despite my last ditch effort to salvage the business relationship, I am 86ed. I can think of ten reasons why the ending of this relationship now is a blessing in disguise, but they do not ameliorate the acutal hurt and regret and pain and scarring. This relationship should have never happened, happened the way it did, or ended the way it did, much worse than it had to be.
When I first stared mongering I was all concerned about bogus issues there were exaggerated or never came to pass, like LE raids, trafficking and coercion via organized crime, the passage of HB-240 into law. The real issue all along was in my head but I ignored it. How to monger in a fiscally and emotionally responsible manner? The binge happened. The emotional attachment and scarring happened. Cannot go back and change. Just got to learn from my mistakes and go forward, and hope that the fiscal damage would not be permanent. Hopefully I do not have to go without for long to learn discipline and budgeting and can partake what is available in Honolulu for many years to come
Are you referring to fitness relating to being able to get hard and needing viagra, or stamina not to pop quickly? Because I can tell you that I have been supremely fit at various times, and still had problems lasting long. Age has seemed to have tempered that significantly as I last much, much longer now. Anyway, I could see fitness relating to ability to get and maintain erections, but personally haven't seen it affect the stamina issue.Actually I have been doing a lot of reading and research about sexual performance lately especially since I have gotten older. Sex is actually another form of exercise. You can actually burn a lot of calories during a vigorous sex session. And sex is believe it or not considered an aerobic exercise. Therefore your heart and your blood vessels in your body need to be in good condition. Especially the blood vessels in your penis. I have also read from many sources that the simple fact that a man needs Viagra is usually the first sign of heart disease. Now granted that research is not conclusive but still it is something to be concerned about. I have also read that as you age (40 and greater) your testosterone levels drop 3-5 percent or more per year. Lower testosterone also leads to decreased stamina. I have discovered that two exercises in particular have increased my stamina dramatically. Those two exercises are Squats and Deadlifts. And I don't mean just a few, I mean a lot. When I do squats I use over 250 lbs and I deadlift over 300 lbs. I do five sets of 20 reps each. I do these every week at least twice a weak. Nothing makes my heart beat faster and nothing increases my testosterone levels better. The next day I feel like screwing everything my "T" is so high. Another good idea is to do the same exercises those UFC guys do. Try going five rounds of grappling and you will see what I mean. That takes a good heart. Of course another thing that really helped me was staying away from the standard American diet (SAD). I never eat plate lunches and I eat a lot of fish / fruit and vegetables and a lot of oatmeal. I never never do Mcdonalds / Burger King etc etc. Those places are guaranteed artery cloggers.
Your blood vessels / veins in your heart and penis are just like any other hose. It is all about blood flow. If the hose (your veins) is all clogged up with fat and cholesterol then it makes it harder to keep up the blood flow and maintain an erection. That is why young guys do not need Viagra. They don't have enough accumulated crap in their arteries as we older guys do. It is that accumulated crap that lowers the blood flow and makes it hard for us old guys to keep an erection and maintain that stamina.
I see a urulogist every year whether I need it or not and he has told me the same things that I just wrote above. In fact I have gotten more than one urologists opinion on this. They see enough guys everyday to know. Stamina is related to your cardio conditioning. Cardio conditioning is not directly related to how muscular you are though. You can be very muscular looking and still be in bad cardio condition. So don't let those nice six pack abs and bulging pecs fool you.
Hypo, I would recommend just seeing a urologist to answer your questions specifically. I was a little "embarrassed" the first time I saw one but I am really glad I did. Now so far I am lucky and I don't need Viagra but he told me that one day I will, eventually. As all men will. Getting old sucks!
Hypo, I would recommend just seeing a urologist to answer your questions specifically. I was a little "embarrassed" the first time I saw one but I am really glad I did. Now so far I am lucky and I don't need Viagra but he told me that one day I will, eventually. As all men will. Getting old sucks!Well, as it is now, in the last few years or so my stamina has gone up to where I am very controlled. No issue anymore. It's only been a certain girl or two that make me blow early! But on the plus side, I still haven't lost my ability to have multiple (sometimes up to 5 or 6 a night) pops and have no problem getting, or in some cases "staying" hard after I cum and can keep going.
On my recent trip to the Philippines, I would have all night sex sessions where I'd pop a minimum of six times. I'd do it over again the next night and the next. I have to report it. Four of the girls allowed for pictures!
Anyway, thanks for the info, but for now at least, no problems for me.
Actually I have been doing a lot of reading and research about sexual performance lately especially since I have gotten older. Sex is actually another form of exercise. You can actually burn a lot of calories during a vigorous sex session. And sex is believe it or not considered an aerobic exercise. Therefore your heart and your blood vessels in your body need to be in good condition. Especially the blood vessels in your penis. I have also read from many sources that the simple fact that a man needs Viagra is usually the first sign of heart disease. Now granted that research is not conclusive but still it is something to be concerned about. I have also read that as you age (40 and greater) your testosterone levels drop 3-5 percent or more per year. Lower testosterone also leads to decreased stamina. I have discovered that two exercises in particular have increased my stamina dramatically. Those two exercises are Squats and Deadlifts. And I don't mean just a few, I mean a lot. When I do squats I use over 250 lbs and I deadlift over 300 lbs. I do five sets of 20 reps each. I do these every week at least twice a weak. Nothing makes my heart beat faster and nothing increases my testosterone levels better. The next day I feel like screwing everything my "T" is so high. Another good idea is to do the same exercises those UFC guys do. Try going five rounds of grappling and you will see what I mean. That takes a good heart. Of course another thing that really helped me was staying away from the standard American diet (SAD). I never eat plate lunches and I eat a lot of fish / fruit and vegetables and a lot of oatmeal. I never never do Mcdonalds / Burger King etc etc. Those places are guaranteed artery cloggers.
Your blood vessels / veins in your heart and penis are just like any other hose. It is all about blood flow. If the hose (your veins) is all clogged up with fat and cholesterol then it makes it harder to keep up the blood flow and maintain an erection. That is why young guys do not need Viagra. They don't have enough accumulated crap in their arteries as we older guys do. It is that accumulated crap that lowers the blood flow and makes it hard for us old guys to keep an erection and maintain that stamina.
I see a urulogist every year whether I need it or not and he has told me the same things that I just wrote above. In fact I have gotten more than one urologists opinion on this. They see enough guys everyday to know. Stamina is related to your cardio conditioning. Cardio conditioning is not directly related to how muscular you are though. You can be very muscular looking and still be in bad cardio condition. So don't let those nice six pack abs and bulging pecs fool you.
Hypo, I would recommend just seeing a urologist to answer your questions specifically. I was a little "embarrassed" the first time I saw one but I am really glad I did. Now so far I am lucky and I don't need Viagra but he told me that one day I will, eventually. As all men will. Getting old sucks!Probably a stretch for me to start doing squats much less deadlifts. They just have never been part of my lifting routines. Genetically, I am built with strong lower body and weak upperbody bone structure wise. Always easier for me to build muscles on the legs than on chest and arms. So, I have neglected legs in favor of upperbody over the years. But once in a while I would do a full circuit of the leg machines. I suppose the leg presses would be the closest thing to the squats and their benefits. I am taking choleterol medication and the numbers look ok now. There is nothing I would like more than be able to do hard cardio, but I am afraid of killing myself in the process. But I may kill myself quicker if I did not try. LOL.
Hilifter37
01-09-12, 02:29
When you say 5 sets of 20 reps each, do you mean 5 sets of squats with 250lbs each working set and then 5 sets of deadlifts with 300lbs each working set for 10 total sets? A total of 200 reps with that kind of heavy weights? Even at my heaviest (weighing about 260lbs) I don't think I could have done that kind of workout! That is a very impressive combination of both strength and endurance for anybody. I agree with you about junk food in theory, but I am a junk food addict. I rather give up pussy then plate lunches and fast food (not forever mind you, but for extended periods of time).
Those two exercises are Squats and Deadlifts. And I don't mean just a few, I mean a lot. When I do squats I use over 250 lbs and I deadlift over 300 lbs. I do five sets of 20 reps each. I do these every week at least twice a weak. Nothing makes my heart beat faster and nothing increases my testosterone levels better. The next day I feel like screwing everything my "T" is so high.
Drove by paradise the other day and noticed a few aggressive for sale signs. Does anyone have intel if penny sells where she might end up? Is she retiring?
When you say 5 sets of 20 reps each, do you mean 5 sets of squats with 250lbs each working set and then 5 sets of deadlifts with 300lbs each working set for 10 total sets? A total of 200 reps with that kind of heavy weights? Even at my heaviest (weighing about 260lbs) I don't think I could have done that kind of workout! That is a very impressive combination of both strength and endurance for anybody. I agree with you about junk food in theory, but I am a junk food addict. I rather give up pussy then plate lunches and fast food (not forever mind you, but for extended periods of time).Yep that is what I do. It takes me about two hours to do the whole routine. Of course it took me years to get there. Actually that is nothing. You should watch videos of what some of the UFC guys do for cardio training. Remember Rick Franklin of the UFC? His workout routines went on for 5-6 hours per day in 2 hour sets. Arnold (my hero) use to work out 3 times a day everyday at 2+ hour intervals. Your body can do it if your mind is strong. I am super disciplined. That is why I can trade for a living and not have to depend on a "job". Because I am disciplined. Life takes discipline. It is all in the mind. If your mind says no your body says no. My mind always says yes. Simple enough.
Of course, dealing with women, a strong mind can actually work against you. Especially strong minded Amercan women (beeaches!). That is why I bang Asian girls.
I wish I had started mongering decades ago. I just was not aware of the option. I thought streetwalkers were the only option. And with the exception of a couple encounters in the early 90s with streetwalkers in Waikiki done through a drunken haze that were not fulfulling, I did not try again. And I did not go to KBs. Had I been aware of the AMPs option and its predecessors in the 00s. 90s and before, the course of my life, not just sex life, would have been very different. Certainly the motivation to earn more money to sustain a mongering habit would have affected educational and career choices and paths in a productive way. And there would have been self-control and discipline accrued over time and tempered with other activities and temptations that younger people had. There would have been alcohol. There would not have been viagra. For the life of me I just did not get the information about AMPs from a few hints friends dropped that would have led to more inquiry and investigation of AMPs five, ten, and fifteen years ago.
The reality is late introduction to mongering, timed coincidentally with midlife crisis, led to a mongering binge that has led to financial distress. I could have had a blast with a small fraction of mongering that I did, but I did not control myself. And the realization of an addiction has come only when the financial distress could no longer be ignored. Some friends privy to what was going on tried halfheartedly to talk sense into me, but I did not listen as I should have in the beginning. I felt that I needed to catch up. The fun was just too great. I had viagra. I had quit drinking and golf and started working out to gain confidence. I thought I would cut back next week or next month, and I can binge now. And next week and next month would be put off and put off again as long as there were immediate funds to play. And now with the reality of a broken piggy bank and the realization of an addiction, I am thinking along the lines of budgeting mongering. This may work, but most likely just more dysfunctional rationalization. Most likely I would have to abstain for a period of time so the urges are completely gone and I finally get a good grip on my affairs, financial and otherwise, that have been badly affected by binge mongering. There really is no other way, is there? There is nothing else counseling or therapy could tell me that would work, is there?
I wish I had listened to others on the board and not do repeats more than a couple of times max with any given provider. Fuck them and run. Move on. As others have said, the whole point of mongering is to avoid mind games and strings attachment that plague real relationships. How ironic and self destructive, then, would it be to look for connections with the pros beyond the transient pleasure of renting for the hour in a business transaction? Only someone who is pathetic and emotionally vulnerable would fall prey to the smoke and mirrors of the AMPs girls and their marketing. Repeats are a double edged sword. Both parties may benefit from rapport and discount, but the risk of feelings coming into play gets higher and higher as time goes on, despite best intentions from both sides.
The reality is that I did an insane number of sessions with the ATF of the ATFs. The one I was with the very first time at an AMP and who gave me big discount to come back to see her. Yes, there may have been some comfort and rapport that led to the discount and my using the discount. Regardless, the sheer number of encounters with one provider led to lines being crossed in the business relationship. I became emotionally involved. I thought we were friends and would be friends outside of business and after business would be over. Found out after nine good months that we really were not friends. I was just a customer and a wallet. Then the business relationship blew up in the most rediculous kind of way involving a misunderstanding with another woman in the same AMP. Lack of communication led to a series of further misunderstandings and hurtful messages that could not be retracted. And despite my last ditch effort to salvage the business relationship, I am 86ed. I can think of ten reasons why the ending of this relationship now is a blessing in disguise, but they do not ameliorate the acutal hurt and regret and pain and scarring. This relationship should have never happened, happened the way it did, or ended the way it did, much worse than it had to be.
When I first stared mongering I was all concerned about bogus issues there were exaggerated or never came to pass, like LE raids, trafficking and coercion via organized crime, the passage of HB-240 into law. The real issue all along was in my head but I ignored it. How to monger in a fiscally and emotionally responsible manner? The binge happened. The emotional attachment and scarring happened. Cannot go back and change. Just got to learn from my mistakes and go forward, and hope that the fiscal damage would not be permanent. Hopefully I do not have to go without for long to learn discipline and budgeting and can partake what is available in Honolulu for many years to comeHey Mr. Ocolumbo-
Man that was pretty HEAVY & PROFOUND! (and DEEP too!)
I have pretty much enjoyed your posts and can always relate to your topics, well just like alll the other posters, except for a few wacky one (Hi Playboy54, Excellent Dud). Sorry for the rambling.
It seems that almost everyone goes thru those times, especially in the beginning, when the small head has completely taken control. Then as time goes on then, and things happen, then the head (the big one starts thinking clearer).
As my father always said- "The truth will set you free"
Then you will be divorced from you SO, break-up w / GF whichever the case may be, poorer in your pockets but rich and wise in expericence.
Just my 2 cents.
Drove by paradise the other day and noticed a few aggressive for sale signs. Does anyone have intel if penny sells where she might end up? Is she retiring?Saw the signs too. It's unlikely that Penny owns the building. Probably her lease runs out and the landlord wants to sell. The location has what is basically a converted house on it and probably has valuable commercial zoning. It could be worth more as an empty lot.
In fact it would be foolish to operate such a business out of property you own as it could be subject to forfeiture. Not completely sure about state law but the feds can do it. Remember the building owners at Sakura Rycroft were running a gambling house upstairs themselves and lost their property when they got busted.
Yep that is what I do. It takes me about two hours to do the whole routine. Of course it took me years to get there. Actually that is nothing. You should watch videos of what some of the UFC guys do for cardio training. Remember Rick Franklin of the UFC? His workout routines went on for 5-6 hours per day in 2 hour sets. Arnold (my hero) use to work out 3 times a day everyday at 2+ hour intervals. Your body can do it if your mind is strong. I am super disciplined. That is why I can trade for a living and not have to depend on a "job". Because I am disciplined. Life takes discipline. It is all in the mind. If your mind says no your body says no. My mind always says yes. Simple enough.
Of course, dealing with women, a strong mind can actually work against you. Especially strong minded Amercan women (beeaches!). That is why I bang Asian girls.Feminist revolution, the phase in the 60s, led to strong minded American women who pushed for sexual liberation. And of course men benefited the most from the loosening of social constraints against premarital sex and fornication. LOL. But who would want to put up with bossy wenches if they don't have to.
Sancho2063
01-10-12, 14:37
When my reservoir is full, meaning I have not busted a nut for 5, 6, or 7 days, it is very hard to have stamina. And if I don't want to beat off and I am not getting freebie, it is not as much fun going to AMPs once a week or once every two weeks and come prematurely or quickly. Does anyone have any suggestions in fixing this problem. I have to take the pill on an empty stomach anyway. Would stronger dosage on a really empty stomach make a difference?
ThanksI was just going to post about this before I saw what you wrote. For me not releasing for a few days always helps with pleasure.
Stamina is just an exercise issue. Maybe wait fewer days say 3 or 4.
Yep that is what I do. It takes me about two hours to do the whole routine. Of course it took me years to get there. Actually that is nothing. You should watch videos of what some of the UFC guys do for cardio training. Remember Rick Franklin of the UFC? His workout routines went on for 5-6 hours per day in 2 hour sets. Arnold (my hero) use to work out 3 times a day everyday at 2+ hour intervals. Your body can do it if your mind is strong. I am super disciplined. That is why I can trade for a living and not have to depend on a "job". Because I am disciplined. Life takes discipline. It is all in the mind. If your mind says no your body says no. My mind always says yes. Simple enough.
Of course, dealing with women, a strong mind can actually work against you. Especially strong minded Amercan women (beeaches!). That is why I bang Asian girls.Excellent workout and very impressive! But you don't have to be that extreme to be in top physical shape. Too much exercise and too many weights are not good for the heart too. Take strongman Sandow, for example, strongest man in the world, but died of a stroke. Not to mention Bruce Lee also. Of course, could be other factors such diet that contributed to death but the key is balance and not to over-do it. I lift weights 3 times per week, jog 3 times per week and practice yoga / meditation daily at a comfortable pace without strain. Each session about a hour and I'm in excellent shape. I'm in my 50's but feel better than I did in my 20's with no physical problems at all. I'm also vegetarian (other than eating "tuna".) and that really helps. You're right. Self-discipline is very important and necessary to succeed in any endeavor.
I was just going to post about this before I saw what you wrote. For me not releasing for a few days always helps with pleasure.
Stamina is just an exercise issue. Maybe wait fewer days say 3 or 4.Tight $ will not allow waiting just three or four days, unfortunately. By stamina I don't mean running out of breath and getting tired in the session. I mean blowing the load too early and not having as much fun that would otherwise happen with multiple positions and interactions. I don't understand how being in good physical shape will allow you to hold off shooting? Isn't this strictly a function of how often you have been doing it?
Sancho2063
01-11-12, 17:58
Tight $ will not allow waiting just three or four days, unfortunately. By stamina I don't mean running out of breath and getting tired in the session. I mean blowing the load too early and not having as much fun that would otherwise happen with multiple positions and interactions. I don't understand how being in good physical shape will allow you to hold off shooting? Isn't this strictly a function of how often you have been doing it?Roger that brah. I guess it is a sensitivity issue then. Sometimes for me my money is wasted because I take too long and end up self-finishing or just doing what evahs she'll let me do until I get the knock on the door. Sometimes I wish I would cum fast as oppose to not cumming at all.
Sancho2063
01-11-12, 18:03
This was e-mailed to me. Thought everyone here would like it.
Tight $ will not allow waiting just three or four days, unfortunately. By stamina I don't mean running out of breath and getting tired in the session. I mean blowing the load too early and not having as much fun that would otherwise happen with multiple positions and interactions. I don't understand how being in good physical shape will allow you to hold off shooting? Isn't this strictly a function of how often you have been doing it?I'm telling you, beating off an hour or so before seeing her will do wonders. For me, doing it twice starting two or three hours before turns me into SUPERMAN!
If you have some stigma about beating off, you shouldn't. There is no shame in it, nor any shame in admitting here that you do it.
The best feeling in the world is pumping a girl with 110% intensity and taking in her orgasmic reactions knowing that you have the stamina to push through and not ejaculate prematurely!
. SUPERMAN!
The best feeling in the world is pumping a girl with 110% intensity and taking in her orgasmic reactions knowing that you have the stamina to push through and not ejaculate prematurely!Hey Superman, once I visited the same AMP at 3 different times with 3 different providers on the same night. You're right; when your sacks are empty your boner is like some permanent attachment tool. Take some Viragra or Levitra booster and WALA! You turn into a roaring rhinoceros with that horn between his head!
The last Korean chick I plugged that night got it good and hard for 45 minutes straight doggie style non-stop! I used to always see her but took someone else because she was stuck up and on the skinny side. I was hard like some iron anvil pounding away without mercy; my thighs muscles hurt from all that pelvic thrusting and was sweating like a pig.
Even she was covered with sweat and complained that the other two 'had it easy' while she got it hard. Hell she was nice to me after that, but never went back pounding her because my friend took the other girl and only she was left
RadioHazard
01-11-12, 21:29
I agree with Hypo you just need to un load a bit. I am pretty sure that there has to be a balance between to0 fast and taking too long. Another thing could be about control. Not sure how controlling you are. Most girls want to you nut fast. If you don't tell or control them they will do their best to finish you off as fast as possible IMHO. These days I take way to long to nut. But in the past if I am too fast or close I just back off and force the break. Some girls are more aggressive than other. Sindi comes to mind here but I feel part of being super man is you need to be in control of the pace. What ever pace you may like.
Once I went to Seven got worked by Tammi. Which was a great session Probably busted a nut about 15 min into the actual deed. About an hour later I end up at PT with Mimi. I swear I was inside her in some form or fashion for at least50 mins. Sounds fun but not really it took forever to nut. But she got it done with no complaints. For me it was a bit to long of a session with to much work to nut.
I swear my first 10 trip to AMP in the early days I would nut in 5 mins. Even after beatin off just 30 mins before the session.
I'm telling you, beating off an hour or so before seeing her will do wonders. For me, doing it twice starting two or three hours before turns me into SUPERMAN!
If you have some stigma about beating off, you shouldn't. There is no shame in it, nor any shame in admitting here that you do it.
The best feeling in the world is pumping a girl with 110% intensity and taking in her orgasmic reactions knowing that you have the stamina to push through and not ejaculate prematurely!
RadioHazard
01-11-12, 21:54
Pro Sessions.
Fastest Session: Choi / Tammy London Pub Less than 5 mins (WTF?) Sindi (PT) nutted me in about 10 mins.
Average Session (Just the deed) : 20 min to nut.
Longest Session: Mimi (PT) at least 55 mins.
Most Session In one day: 3 times. Hana. Skye. Hana The old hana & Skye not the current ones. Hana got it could the the last pop. Whish I did a three some with Hana & Skye. They were not at the same place at the time.
Freebies Sessions.
Fastest: young filipina GF. 3 mins. (she was a freak)
Average Session (Just the deed) : 115 min to nut.
Longest Session: MILF Filipina 1 hour 45 min. (she was loose and not that hot but freaky)
Most Sessions in one day: 6 times. Same young filipina freak. (Within a 24 hour period) I was drained for days after that one. After the last one my dick hurt like shit and barely any cum left. This was in the 90s GF was leaving town and want to drain me never thought it was possible to go so many times.
Post yours Session #s.
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