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Makana9
10-02-07, 04:20
Plate Lunch,

You're not a AMP virgin anymore guy.

Enjoy

Mravcapo69
10-02-07, 05:07
All right. As I promised, here is my experience with CH. I have to say one thing, I am very picky and don’t give high ratings, so 10 in my book is only if she leaves me speechless in many different ways. Anyway, I rang the door bell, Mama opens the door. I said I was looking for a massage, as per recommendation of my friend (all of you guys, thank you). I guess I really don’t give any LE vibes, because she smiled and lead me straight back to the room. I thought that was cool because I really didn’t feel like getting into all the BS of explaining myself and convincing her that I am truly there to get the massage and whatever else is on the menu and not looking for trouble. Anyway, room setup as previously described. Dimmed lights, mattress on the floor, pretty simple. She asked .5 for the house fee, and I said my “friend” told me to as if I can see the girls. She said, it was no problem. Out comes an Asian lady, my guess she is mid 30’s, but I really wanted April. 2nd girl came out, much younger, I’d say early to mid 20’s, about 5”5’, face about 7, but a smoking slim body with nice boobs. Mama walks in again and said “which girl?” I said I was looking for April, and she said that was April, the second girl. I hand her .5 for house fee, she asked me to disrobe and lay down on my stomach, so I did. A minute or so later, April walks in wearing a nice, short, light, dress showing off her nice large breasts. She started massaging my back and went at it for about 25 minutes. Ok I admit, she is not a massage therapist, but it still felt good. I give her 5 for that. She than told me to turn around, and started working on my front. We talked a bit, nothing major, and she seemed somewhat shy. I asked her if she minds me touching her, she said that was ok, and than took of her dress, was topless with her panties on. Jumps over me, pours some more lubricant on her hands and proceeds with a HJ, while I was playing with those nice tits and her very responsive nipps. HJ was great, but after a while, I asked her if that was all I was going to get. She smiled and said yes. I asked her why, and she said maybe next time. She said, sorry, you’re new here. Mama doesn’t know you, I don’t know you, come back again and we’ll see. In a nice way, I was trying to get more out of her, but she wouldn’t do it, and I didn’t want to be pushy because that was best HJ I got in a long time, and I am definitely going there for more. I gave her .5 and I said I’ll come to see you again. She smiled, gave me a hug and walked me out of the door. I am just curious of everyone’s opinion, if they were truly cautious because I was new, or was it one of those things they do just to get me to come back and spend more. My idea was to get everything on the first visit so I can venture to some other places, because time and funds are limmited. But I am still curious about her, so I have to go back there.

Mravcapo69
10-02-07, 05:23
As I said in my last post, my time and funds are limited, so I would appreciate help I would get from you guys. After CH, I want to visit some other places. I only interested in Asian or local ladies, preferably below 30. The smaller, and more petite, and the younger, the better. From reading the posts, I kinda have a list where I think I could find what I am looking for, but I may be wrong. On my list, I am thinking about VIP, Nirvana and Pine Tree, but there are so many other places with possible better options. I would appreciate any input about their locations and who to ask for. If sharing such tips is not exactly for public eye, please PM me, or E-mail me. My address is my username in here, AT good old Yahoo. Thanks in advance, and I will be posting the update about my second visit to CH, after it happens.

Mravcapo69
10-02-07, 05:29
Luke, I am not your father, but welcome to the dark side. May force be with you, and all of us skymongers. Hopefully we’ll hear about some more exciting moments from this vacation. Stay under the radar, play safe, and have fun.

Hawaii 50
10-02-07, 05:33
My buddy and I checked out Nirvana tonight around 8PM. Saw Bonnie from Champion Spa there! Only Koreans available at that time so I chose "Ivy. " My friend said she also worked at CS. She's slender w/natural perky 34C; nice body w/cute little ass. Didn't notice any tattoos. I couldn't really tell how old she is but I'm quite sure she is at least 30 yrs old. Junior got a little treat during the table shower too Once we got in the room we got right down to business. DFK, CBJ w/plenty of BLS and some rimming; RCG; doggie; CG; mish then back to doggie for a great finish. She cleaned me up with hot towel, gave me a massage, and then we both took a shower. Too bad I couldn't talk her into some greek action, but overall I was very satisfied w/her service ($. 9). L=8; A=8; S=9

Lcl Asian
10-02-07, 05:51
Kck,

Mayumi, legit massage by older japanese lady; Jenny works out of SiSi's place in Century Center (3403). Looks legit the first time but I think she gives extras after you get to know her. She is supposed to be in China now. IMHO, she is a pretty Chinese lady. Friendly too. PGPG,

Do you know when Jenny gets back and would you have a phone #. How old would you say Jenny is? Would like to try her massage. Had a massage from SiSi's last month and she had mentioned that she has a couple of chinese girls that work with her but she said I had to make appt thru her. The other girls name she said was Coco. Any 411 on her also.

Could you pm me with info.

Pokeman808
10-02-07, 13:40
All right. As I promised, here is my experience with CH. I have to say one thing, I am very picky and don’t give high ratings, so 10 in my book is only if she leaves me speechless in many different ways. Anyway, I rang the door bell, Mama opens the door. I said I was looking for a massage, as per recommendation of my friend (all of you guys, thank you). I guess I really don’t give any LE vibes, because she smiled and lead me straight back to the room. I thought that was cool because I really didn’t feel like getting into all the BS of explaining myself and convincing her that I am truly there to get the massage and whatever else is on the menu and not looking for trouble. Anyway, room setup as previously described. Dimmed lights, mattress on the floor, pretty simple. She asked .5 for the house fee, and I said my “friend” told me to as if I can see the girls. She said, it was no problem. Out comes an Asian lady, my guess she is mid 30’s, but I really wanted April. 2nd girl came out, much younger, I’d say early to mid 20’s, about 5”5’, face about 7, but a smoking slim body with nice boobs. Mama walks in again and said “which girl?” I said I was looking for April, and she said that was April, the second girl. I hand her .5 for house fee, she asked me to disrobe and lay down on my stomach, so I did. A minute or so later, April walks in wearing a nice, short, light, dress showing off her nice large breasts. She started massaging my back and went at it for about 25 minutes. Ok I admit, she is not a massage therapist, but it still felt good. I give her 5 for that. She than told me to turn around, and started working on my front. We talked a bit, nothing major, and she seemed somewhat shy. I asked her if she minds me touching her, she said that was ok, and than took of her dress, was topless with her panties on. Jumps over me, pours some more lubricant on her hands and proceeds with a HJ, while I was playing with those nice tits and her very responsive nipps. HJ was great, but after a while, I asked her if that was all I was going to get. She smiled and said yes. I asked her why, and she said maybe next time. She said, sorry, you’re new here. Mama doesn’t know you, I don’t know you, come back again and we’ll see. In a nice way, I was trying to get more out of her, but she wouldn’t do it, and I didn’t want to be pushy because that was best HJ I got in a long time, and I am definitely going there for more. I gave her .5 and I said I’ll come to see you again. She smiled, gave me a hug and walked me out of the door. I am just curious of everyone’s opinion, if they were truly cautious because I was new, or was it one of those things they do just to get me to come back and spend more. My idea was to get everything on the first visit so I can venture to some other places, because time and funds are limmited. But I am still curious about her, so I have to go back there.She might have had her monthly friend visiting.

Azn Player
10-02-07, 14:41
I guess asking to see the girls first is a good idea.
The "April" that Mravcapo69 described is the first one I saw at CH.
The next time I went, I got the older 30-something from the "not-so-customer-friendly" mama (who also said she was the ONLY April there).

Just be wary that you're not necessarily going to get the 20-something with she smokin' bod if you ask for April.

Azn Player
10-02-07, 14:43
Anybody seen Son Kyong lately?
I have her number, but I noticed she doesn't have an ad in the latest PS and was just wondering about any recent experiences you guys might have had.

I'm in the mood for a deep massage and all those other things she generally does that brings one near tears. ;)

Thanks.

AP

Lkjhgf
10-02-07, 15:26
My buddy and I checked out Nirvana tonight around 8PM. Saw Bonnie from Champion Spa there! Only Koreans available at that time so I chose "Ivy. " My friend said she also worked at CS. She's slender w/natural perky 34C; nice body w/cute little ass. Didn't notice any tattoos. I couldn't really tell how old she is but I'm quite sure she is at least 30 yrs old. Junior got a little treat during the table shower too Once we got in the room we got right down to business. DFK, CBJ w/plenty of BLS and some rimming; RCG; doggie; CG; mish then back to doggie for a great finish. She cleaned me up with hot towel, gave me a massage, and then we both took a shower. Too bad I couldn't talk her into some greek action, but overall I was very satisfied w/her service ($. 9). L=8; A=8; S=9Papa,

Are you talking about ivy at nirvana, sounds real good, where is the place, and only for $. 9, what about the enterance fee. May be my next stop.

Thanks

Mravcapo69
10-02-07, 15:31
Well, it’s starting to sound that at some of these places, girls name will be whatever you ask for. I guess you just use your own taste to judge weather the investment is worth it or not. Among many rules I follow, I closely stick to the one that I never buy a cat in the sack, no matter what the purchase is. That rule applies to this activity as well. Before handing out any green, I always make sure to request the lineup so I know where my funds are going. If not happy with the visual effects, I walk. If option to choose is refused, I also walk. Sorry, but that’s just me. I don’t do it often, but when I do, I want to have fun. In my book, “April”, or whatever her name may be, is the younger lady at the CH. She certainly is worth the funds requested. That’s why I am planning to go there again at least one more time.

Tommyah
10-02-07, 15:40
Was April Thai/Korean? Big on top? 30's?

How many girls there?

CH is so small.

Passed Waikamilo, saw a SPA on the corner Diamond Head side next to the gas station, one street before King St.

Forgot the name. Lots of parking.

Anybody got info?

Sdrom
10-02-07, 15:45
I am just curious of everyone’s opinion, if they were truly cautious because I was new, or was it one of those things they do just to get me to come back and spend more. My idea was to get everything on the first visit so I can venture to some other places, because time and funds are limmited. But I am still curious about her, so I have to go back there.Haven't mongered for a LOOONG time. But from my experience, they may have had a run in with LE recently so are being cautious. I suggest you ask for the girl's name when the session is done and you're about to leave (a small tip to them might also help with the trust building) and if you want to go back, then go back. (sometimes I get two names. The one mama gave me and the one they give me.)

As you become a 'regular'. Perhaps more doors get opened. DATY, BBBJ, Bukkake, etc.

As you keep going, other girls (including mamasan) will get to know you and will become more open and relaxed and more extras will open up.

Hawaii 50
10-02-07, 19:13
Papa,

Are you talking about ivy at nirvana, sounds real good, where is the place, and only for $. 9, what about the enterance fee. May be my next stop.

ThanksYes, she said her name is Ivy. 1334 Young St (upstairs) formerly Diva, King. $.9 includes the .5 entrance fee. PG

Mravcapo69
10-02-07, 20:23
Tommyah,

April said she is Korean. There were only two girls there that I saw when I asked for the lineup. One older with longer hair, and one younger with shorter hair, bit taller than the other girl, and she had nicer bod. I was with the younger looking one, she was big on top, and didn’t look older than early to mid 20’s. When I asked her, she said she was April and she is from Korea. I am not sure if there were any more girls there, but I think I saw all of them since the other room was open and at the time I felt I was the only one there. I do intend to go there again, but as far as becoming a regular, I am not so sure. Unfortunately, being here only on extended vacation, time and circumstances are not on my side for such a relation. I’ll just have to take whatever I can get in this short period of time :-)

Mravcapo69
10-02-07, 20:43
She might have had her monthly friend visiting.That is very true. I thought of that also, so I said I would return.

Higuy
10-02-07, 22:37
PG,

Do you know when Jenny gets back and would you have a phone #. How old would you say Jenny is? Would like to try her massage. Had a massage from SiSi's last month and she had mentioned that she has a couple of chinese girls that work with her but she said I had to make appt thru her. The other girls name she said was Coco. Any 411 on her also.

Could you pm me with info.Any chance of a 4 handed massage at SiSi's place?

C Man
10-03-07, 01:19
Anybody seen Son Kyong lately?

I have her number, but I noticed she doesn't have an ad in the latest PS and was just wondering about any recent experiences you guys might have had.

I'm in the mood for a deep massage and all those other things she generally does that brings one near tears. ;)

Thanks.

API went to see her last week but I didn't pick up the latest PS. Her phone number is still good and she is taking appointments. Sessions are the same involving good deep massage with mind blowing HJ with prostate check. By the way, any former clients of Nijta out there? She is now running an ad on CL.

Comp Dude 35
10-03-07, 01:22
Dudes,

The mamas at CH name the young ones; right now, there are two younger ones there (no older than 30).

The first "April" is a little closer to 30, looks real Korean and is not that curvy, but a little thicker than the other. Not sure if this one is in Hawaii permanent or goes back and forth to wherever. Wasn't interested in this one as she looked like she was all business.

The second "April", the younger one is 23-24 and used to be called "kiki" (for those of you who experienced her earlier. She has the enhanced rack (probably C cup) and is a little curvy, though she cannot weigh more than a 115 pounds at about 5'3" / 5'4". She's from LA and just went back there and won't be back for another month or so.

That's the scoops. Been with Kiki many times and treated like BF. She had problems in the beginning, but has been awesome since.

The Dude

Comp Dude 35
10-03-07, 01:26
PG,

Do you know when Jenny gets back and would you have a phone #. How old would you say Jenny is? Would like to try her massage. Had a massage from SiSi's last month and she had mentioned that she has a couple of chinese girls that work with her but she said I had to make appt thru her. The other girls name she said was Coco. Any 411 on her also.

Could you pm me with info.The Jenny here is the same one as the Pennysaver ad and the one that works with Sisi, otherwise known as Coco.

There is a cute Thai girl that works with Sisi, but she doesn't do "extras".

The Dude

Kaneohe33
10-03-07, 01:52
All right. As I promised, here is my experience with CH. I have to say one thing, I am very picky and don’t give high ratings, so 10 in my book is only if she leaves me speechless in many different ways. Anyway, I rang the door bell, Mama opens the door. I said I was looking for a massage, as per recommendation of my friend (all of you guys, thank you). I guess I really don’t give any LE vibes, because she smiled and lead me straight back to the room. I thought that was cool because I really didn’t feel like getting into all the BS of explaining myself and convincing her that I am truly there to get the massage and whatever else is on the menu and not looking for trouble. Anyway, room setup as previously described. Dimmed lights, mattress on the floor, pretty simple. She asked .5 for the house fee, and I said my “friend” told me to as if I can see the girls. She said, it was no problem. Out comes an Asian lady, my guess she is mid 30’s, but I really wanted April. 2nd girl came out, much younger, I’d say early to mid 20’s, about 5”5’, face about 7, but a smoking slim body with nice boobs. Mama walks in again and said “which girl?” I said I was looking for April, and she said that was April, the second girl. I hand her .5 for house fee, she asked me to disrobe and lay down on my stomach, so I did. A minute or so later, April walks in wearing a nice, short, light, dress showing off her nice large breasts. She started massaging my back and went at it for about 25 minutes. Ok I admit, she is not a massage therapist, but it still felt good. I give her 5 for that. She than told me to turn around, and started working on my front. We talked a bit, nothing major, and she seemed somewhat shy. I asked her if she minds me touching her, she said that was ok, and than took of her dress, was topless with her panties on. Jumps over me, pours some more lubricant on her hands and proceeds with a HJ, while I was playing with those nice tits and her very responsive nipps. HJ was great, but after a while, I asked her if that was all I was going to get. She smiled and said yes. I asked her why, and she said maybe next time. She said, sorry, you’re new here. Mama doesn’t know you, I don’t know you, come back again and we’ll see. In a nice way, I was trying to get more out of her, but she wouldn’t do it, and I didn’t want to be pushy because that was best HJ I got in a long time, and I am definitely going there for more. I gave her .5 and I said I’ll come to see you again. She smiled, gave me a hug and walked me out of the door. I am just curious of everyone’s opinion, if they were truly cautious because I was new, or was it one of those things they do just to get me to come back and spend more. My idea was to get everything on the first visit so I can venture to some other places, because time and funds are limmited. But I am still curious about her, so I have to go back there.

I think it's just a way to milk money out of you. I think that if you go back, you may get a repeat experience. They know what you want and you know what they do so they either want your business and your money or they don't. They should know that if they don't satisfy yiu, there are about 31 other places that you can try three of them are their neighbors.

Lcl Asian
10-03-07, 05:20
Any chance of a 4 handed massage at SiSi's place?Sorry,

I wouldn't know. Only been there once.

Mravcapo69
10-03-07, 06:50
Kaneohe33,

I am thinking you are probably right about CH just milking the $ out of me. I would be pissed if I would go there for the seconds and receive the same treatment. Needless to say, it would save me some resources to play elsewhere, but if I am going there, I am not going to the savings bank, and I already made piece with the sum to exchange it for the right treatment. I am reading in here about most guys going there for the first time and getting the full treatment, so I was little disappointed not to be treated the same way, because I was ready for it. But than again, I would also like to give them the benefit of a doubt and assume that they are being cautious. Also, perhaps April had a monthly visit and was “out of order.” Because of that, I may give them the second try. On the other hand, as you said, there are 30 other places. Some of them I am pretty curious about. I’ve already seen what’s at CH, so even without the full treatment, I satisfied my curiosity. So right now, I am curious about other places more than CH. Lack of time is the issue here so I will have to pick wisely. I hope someone could offer a suggestion where I should look for some nice young Asians. Right now I am thinking I may try some other places before I would retrace my footsteps and go back to CH. Thanks for your opinion.

Oof Um Hard
10-03-07, 07:37
I think it's just a way to milk money out of you. I think that if you go back, you may get a repeat experience. They know what you want and you know what they do so they either want your business and your money or they don't. They should know that if they don't satisfy yiu, there are about 31 other places that you can try three of them are their neighbors.Nah she had her monthly thing going on cuz I went to CH the same night and she said she couldn't do full service cause of it. So I got my house fee back from mama and said I'll come back later. The funny thing is I asked if she was "T" and mama said she is.

Tommyah
10-03-07, 08:29
Went to VIP.

Saw 6 girls. 3 was Asian. I love Asians.

Picked June. Good choice. She really gets into it. Lots of moaning.

After, she cracked me all over. Hurts!

Didn't know I had that many "Knots". I guess you gotta be old to enjoy body massage. For me, seems like it does more harm than good. One of the best sessions I had, except for the massage.

My neck/shoulders still hurts! Koko Itai!

Crystal H--

Mravcapo69, Was "T" there? When I called tonight, Mama told me she's on vacation, so I didn't go. Went to check out Pink. Had 1 girl. The girl I wanted called in sick. "Called in sick? " Never hearded that one before. Pink's Mama said the Thai/Chinese girl I had the week before got fired. Too many complaints. I thought she gave poor service too.

So, I went to VIP. Kinda glad I did. Meet June. She said she saw me there many times but I don't remember seeing her. She even named my favorite girls there. Do they have a file on me? How do they remember details like that? Or why?

Jet Ranger
10-03-07, 11:04
So, I went to VIP. Kinda glad I did. Meet June. She said she saw me there many times but I don't remember seeing her. She even named my favorite girls there. Do they have a file on me? How do they remember details like that? Or why?Although I haven't seen it done here, some mainland AMPs have "VIP cards" that give you one free "house fee" after 11 visits or something similar. Typically, the card will list a description of you in Korean and who you saw each visit. Sometimes they let you keep the card, sometimes they maintain it in their office and tell you to remember a number. Maybe some of the mamasans are keeping track of their regular customers in a similar manner without the "frequent flyer" loyalty award. It also probably helps them keep regular customers happy and avoid the risk of offending regular customers when the mamasan on duty doesn't know you, especially during periods of LE pressure.

Kapalua
10-03-07, 11:13
HJ was great, but after a while, I asked her if that was all I was going to get. She smiled and said yes. I asked her why, and she said maybe next time. She said, sorry, you’re new here. Mama doesn’t know you, I don’t know you, come back again and we’ll see.
In Hawaii the crime of prostitution can apply equally to a hand job or intercourse. So if they really were afraid that you were a law enforcement officer, it seems doubtful that because of that suspicion you would receive a hand job but be refused intercourse. There was probably some other reason for the refusal of intercourse. However, now that you're known as a paying customer at CH, the next time you visit CH you can politely make clear to Jun (the mama) that this is a repeat visit and you want full service. You can likewise make that clear to the provider herself before the session begins. If either Jun or the provider won't agree that you're going to receive full service, you can take your business elsewhere.

Mravcapo69
10-03-07, 17:55
..... the next time you visit CH you can politely make clear to Jun (the mama) that this is a repeat visit and you want full service. You can likewise make that clear to the provider herself before the session begins. If either Jun or the provider won't agree that you're going to receive full service, you can take your business elsewhere.If indeed I do go back to CH, I will make sure up front what my expectations are. On my first visit, when I was trying to get more, April (or “T” or whatever) said “next time.” She was very pleasant and I didn’t get the feeling that she would refuse me just because. I truly think it was that time of the month and she was out of order. Now I just have make sure that if I go there again, I don’t go there month after my first visit.

Mravcapo69
10-03-07, 18:12
Crystal H--

Mravcapo69, Was "T" there? When I called tonight, Mama told me she's on vacation, so I didn't go. My visit to CH was at the end of the last week. I didn’t call them yesterday. I am bit stranded with my schedule lately and some family activities, so the time for mongering is a scarce resource these days. I may be visiting them soon again, but if I go there, I will call them to make sure she (April or T, I suppose it’s the same girl) is there.

Kapalua
10-03-07, 20:11
I recently had a trip over to Oahu and had my first mongering experience.
Very good report. Reading it made me recall the special mixture of excitement and apprehension that I felt during my first experience with prostitution twenty-five years ago.





I will say that when I walked back to the hotel, I felt high. I will also say that I plan on doing it again.
That "high" can become psychologically addictive. ;) Ummmmmmm, not for you and me, of course, but for other people. :D

Member #3973
10-03-07, 20:16
In Hawaii the crime of prostitution can apply equally to a hand job or intercourse. So if they really were afraid that you were a law enforcement officer, it seems doubtful that because of that suspicion you would receive a hand job but be refused intercourse. There was probably some other reason for the refusal of intercourse.

I agree that for LE, the actual sexual act does not matter for charging the provider with prostitution.

In my experiences, the providers that offer FS have always pushed that service rather than HJs or BJs, even for first time visits. That gives them an additional 80-100 in tip for the same time. Only once had I had a girl tell me that FS was not an option because she had just got her period that day. I got a CBJ instead, looking at the tampon string - and of course no DATY. She also told me she would not be at work while she was on the rag. So I assume explains why the girls are out sick, "on vacation" or just not in at times.

Most girls at the licensed "semi-legit" massage places do not offer FS as a standard service, but if you are really lucky, a few will provide it to selected regular customers they like and trust.

As always YMMV.

Kekehawaii
10-03-07, 22:11
It took a few msgs. , over the few months, got lucky, HJs, then and & her pals saw my friends and I and they hopped clubs with us & yeah, they love to drink (was doing our pers shots w/us) & danced the early morn away. & yeah, my friend (hapa/loko) & I got hooked up with the ladies.

Can say this, PAPA G is right, hung out, did the double D&Ds with them, and they ended up at our condos. We actually get damn good msgs. , and now this other young'and that working there was to party with us also. In her dukies, her kitty looks pretty tight to tap. We'll see.Whoa! I thought none of them offered extras. I guess I am at a point like Papa G where we've been there many times that they don't offer anything else. Doesn't make sense, but I guess it is what it is. I should have asked up front my first time.

They do come close during the frontal massage. A lot of light light rubbing as the hands pass my hard on. It drives me crazy, but they must like to play with us guys. They obviously notice the hard ons as the towel comes off frequently. When they cover me back up, junior is still peeking at them, so I know they are teasing me.

Sophia is definitley hot. I have to find a way to get extras without offending them. But if she is already doing it for others, why should it matter?

Alohashorts
10-04-07, 01:02
[QUOTE=Kapalua However, now that you're known as a paying customer at CH, the next time you visit CH you can politely make clear to Jun (the mama) that this is a repeat visit and you want full service.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to CH, I was surprised Mama Jun remembered me. It was a while between visits. The provider I had did not know me, and was very reserve. She left the room and came back saying mama remembered me, and went to town. Then again, I hope Jun remembered me, she serviced me twice.

Oysterogo
10-04-07, 03:11
I'm in the mood for a deep massage and all those other things she generally does that brings one near tears. ;)

Thanks.

AP


LOL...I remember one time Eve in CC almost brought me to tears with her thai stretching massage. :)

Kekehawaii
10-04-07, 04:31
LOL...I remember one time Eve in CC almost brought me to tears with her thai stretching massage. :)I only get the Swedish massage from eve so no tears just yet. But that neck cracking she does at the end kind of scares me. I feel like if I ask for extras, she will snap my neck.

I haven'e tried Mai yet. Any 411 on her? A guy had Eve before me and left a bunch of 20s on the table and patted her on the ass as he left. I wonder what that was all about. Was that one of you guys who got FS from her? She wears a nice black t-back so it probably comes off for her regulars.

John Ross
10-04-07, 05:32
The Jenny here is the same one as the Pennysaver ad and the one that works with Sisi, otherwise known as Coco.

There is a cute Thai girl that works with Sisi, but she doesn't do "extras".

The Dude
But which Coco is this?

PT had Tiffany/Coco that previously worked at New Office and Club Tomorrow. Nice tanned body, but a prominent nose.

Island Massage had a pretty Chinese girl named Coco that used to offer services in the room but she left there and went back to CA. She would occassionally come back to HNL and work anywhere that would allow her.

Comp Dude 35
10-04-07, 12:40
But which Coco is this?

PT had Tiffany/Coco that previously worked at New Office and Club Tomorrow. Nice tanned body, but a prominent nose.

Island Massage had a pretty Chinese girl named Coco that used to offer services in the room but she left there and went back to CA. She would occassionally come back to HNL and work anywhere that would allow her.Jr,

This is a newly named "Coco". She's called Jenny if she works on her own or if she works with the other Jenny (4 hands).

I don't do the KB/VB thing, so wouldn't know about the Tiffany/Coco.

The other Coco from I'm was my fav. She would do FS in the room after the massage, but she was always $$$ hungry. Had her do a BBBJ and that turned into CFS after a couple of visits. Would love to know where she is; gave me her email and number at one time, but both are bogus now.

The Dude

Comp Dude 35
10-04-07, 12:43
LOL...I remember one time Eve in CC almost brought me to tears with her thai stretching massage.Tried to get her to do a HJ one time, but she said no. Played around a little, but no deal on the deed.

Higuy
10-04-07, 21:27
By the way, any former clients of Nijta out there? She is now running an ad on CL.Whats the 411 on her?

Busy Boy
10-04-07, 22:51
Sounded promising, girl with a nice voice. Got to CC and an OK looking tall Chinese woman lets me in. Good ole bait & switch. After I was on the table, an older short chunky woman began massaging me. Didn't have the heart to ask for funds back. Massage was poor. If I wanted someone like that I would go to Noriko.

Tipped $5 on the way out and the lady said - Is that all? Don't come back.

Is $5 to low for an OK to poor legit massage?

I usually tip:

$5 OK to poor legit massage
$10 Good or better legit massage
$40 HJ with no touching
$50 HJ with touching

Am I off base? Please help -

Oysterogo
10-05-07, 00:33
yep Kekehawaii, that neck cracking scares me too and she does it with the thai massage also.

BB...those tippings are about what I give. Usually give $10 for no happy ending, but I haven't really come across a crappy massage yet from a legit massage therapist.

Seen Eve only a couple of times and haven't gotten any extras.

Member #3973
10-05-07, 01:45
Is $5 to low for an OK to poor legit massage?

I usually tip:

$5 OK to poor legit massage
$10 Good or better legit massage
$40 HJ with no touching
$50 HJ with touching

Am I off base? Please help -

I would say these tip amounts are right on target.
Add another $20-$30 for a second release.

Makana9
10-05-07, 05:15
Sounded promising, girl with a nice voice. Got to CC and an OK looking tall Chinese woman lets me in. Good ole bait & switch. After I was on the table, an older short chunky woman began massaging me. Didn't have the heart to ask for funds back. Massage was poor. If I wanted someone like that I would go to Noriko.

Tipped $5 on the way out and the lady said. Is that all? Don't come back.

Is $5 to low for an OK to poor legit massage?

I usually tip:

$5 OK to poor legit massage
$10 Good or better legit massage
$40 HJ with no touching
$50 HJ with touching

Am I off base? Please help -You on track BB, and after one poor, crappy massage, they lucky if get even one tip. Our mongering friends say, if you one reggie, can get away with more play, as she already know ya, and even try get her number to call her direct if can.

The only hard part of you giving your number, is the same as the AMPs, when they slow, they going call you, sometimes more than a few times during the week or multiples during they day to come.

Jenny, use to call when she said, " theat time for your massage", started to get starkerish after awhile. Just gotta be wary.

Enjoy

Aaron Colt
10-05-07, 06:41
Sounded promising, girl with a nice voice. Got to CC and an OK looking tall Chinese woman lets me in. Good ole bait & switch. After I was on the table, an older short chunky woman began massaging me. Didn't have the heart to ask for funds back. Massage was poor. If I wanted someone like that I would go to Noriko.

Tipped $5 on the way out and the lady said - Is that all? Don't come back.

Is $5 to low for an OK to poor legit massage?

I usually tip:

$5 OK to poor legit massage
$10 Good or better legit massage
$40 HJ with no touching
$50 HJ with touching

Am I off base? Please help -I only tip if she jerks me off. $50/hour. What is that 8 times the min wage!!

No jerky, no tippy!

Busy Boy
10-05-07, 18:14
Whoa - don't think I could pull that off. How do you approach it.


I would say these tip amounts are right on target.
Add another $20-$30 for a second release.

Asianlover4u
10-05-07, 19:39
I don't think Jenny and Coco are the same person, because when I was at SiSi Massage and had Sisi she mentioned to me to try either Jenny or Coco too. So it cannot be the same person.

Sisi gives a good light touch/erotic type of massage. $1 total for hj and massage, would repeat.

Member #3973
10-05-07, 21:35
Whoa - don't think I could pull that off. How do you approach it.I never ask, but sometimes masseuse/AMP girl just offer it. I guess they want repeat customers :-)

Kapalua
10-05-07, 23:37
In the most recent issue of the PennySaver (October 3), there is an advertisement for "Mai Relaxation." Because I had never heard of "Mai Relaxation," I gave them a call. I was told that "Mai Relaxation" is the new name at the place previously known as Emma's, that it is under new ownership, and that there would be some new women. I don't know whether any of that is true -- I'm just passing along the information I was told.

Asianlover4u
10-06-07, 13:07
Ive been there several times, but normally go during the day/early evening. And all the girls there are past 30, maybe even 40 and not very pretty. Do they have better looking ones at night or am I thinking about a wrong place? Crystal Healing is on the ground floor at the building in back of what used to be a service station right?

Makana9
10-06-07, 14:41
Ive been there several times, but normally go during the day/early evening. And all the girls there are past 30, maybe even 40 and not very pretty. Do they have better looking ones at night or am I thinking about a wrong place? Crystal Healing is on the ground floor at the building in back of what used to be a service station right?That might be the one, door faces maikai.

But the door that faces mauka(the parking lot & king st.) is King's

CH is not bad, Jenny, c, & MS Jun...cool, not young though more the mature, kay parker, taboo types.

King's - Sunny, 40+, good FS

White girl Selena, not sure on her, until someone checks her out. Looks hot, but IMHO though Slim, nice lips, looks like she has brazilian or latino in her too

Kapalua
10-06-07, 16:00
Crystal Healing is on the ground floor at the building in back of what used to be a service station right?
Yes, Crystal Healing is in #104 on the ground floor of the A.Y. Wong Building at 1507 South King Street, which was formerly in back of a "76" service station (demolished).




Ive been there several times, but normally go during the day/early evening. And all the girls there are past 30, maybe even 40 and not very pretty. Do they have better looking ones at night or am I thinking about a wrong place?
You can call the Crystal Healing mama (Jun) at 941-9779, and ask if a young woman named Kiki (also known as "T") is currently working at Crystal Healing. Kiki was present at Crystal Healing when I last visited, but she seems to come and go.

CM0069
10-06-07, 22:33
Greetings Everyone,

I elected not to approve this "report" because the text contained so many unknown abbreviations, misspelled words and local slang that it was literally unreadable. In fact, it was so bad that the only way I can describe it was that it appeared to be English translated into Chinese, then translated back to English, with every third letter subsequently deleted.

Thanks,

Jackson

Hinode
10-07-07, 02:27
Stopped at King's in a drunken stupor. 1 Korean, 1 local, and 1 thai girl all sitting on the couch. Korean asks me for house fee, escorts me to room. Asks if I want a shower. I said nope. She leaves, and the thai girl comes in. Standard procedure, CBJ, CG, doggie, MISH, really lively (almost chronic) behavior/attitude. Friendly, humourous, TIGHT.

Told her I cancelled my trip to Thailand due to RL shit. Guess thats the closest im gettin to Thailand. She kept crackin jokes while we were doing the deed..strange girl. Nice though. Nothing to shout about.

L: 5
A: 9
S: 6

Prob wont repeat. I really wanted the local chick. Nasty looking. I like that kine Wild lookin girls.

Hinode

Hinode
10-07-07, 02:29
Since I was so drunk I forgot the thai girls name, but when I was about to leave the korean girl came and gave me a business card. she flipped it over, and there were 8 boxes, with 1 check mark in the 1st square. she said, when you fill up all 8, next time house fee is free. LOL! fuckin subway copy cats. haha.

Hinode
10-07-07, 02:34
Usually when I monger drunk (yeah I know its stupid, thanks for caring tho) I cant perform and my money goes to waste. Perhaps this time with some good food in my stomach I was able to unload the last 2x out.

Went to-- I dont even know the name, forget already, dunno even WHY I went THERE when I got rejected months ago, but its on the corner of keeamoku and the street with maui divers, 1 block makai of King St.

sign said open, no door bell or what not, I hear a voice saying hello, come inside, mama (im guessing) asks me for house fee, and if i wanna shower, i said no. leads me to room while I wait.

I coulda sworn this girl was vietnamese, she looked like it, young looking maybe 30s, mighta been korean, dont know/dont care.

standard once again: cbj, cg, reverse cg, doggie, mish to finish. I usually HATE doggie style, but she was riding me damn good. when we went to mish, for some drunken reason, I rammed her HARD just 1 time, 1 thrust. She lifted her index finger to me and said, dont fuckin do that. I just snickered evilly, hehehe. blew my load, hot towel to finish me up, left in a drunken stupor still.

i dont even think i asked for her name.

L: 5
A: 5
S: 7

Prob wont repeat.

Hinode

Kapalua
10-07-07, 05:55
Went to-- I dont even know the name, forget already, dunno even WHY I went THERE when I got rejected months ago, but its on the corner of keeamoku and the street with maui divers, 1 block makai of King St.
That would most likely be Young Massage, 919 Keeaumoku Street (at the corner of Liona Street).

Tommyah
10-07-07, 14:15
I always drink before I go to get ORT (Orental Relaxation Therapy).

I visit my favorite Girls at the bars and then about 10:00, the adventure begins.

I pop 75 mg Viagra or Cialas and make my rounds to the AMP's, looking for the cute girls. If I'm really wasted, I pop 100 mg.

(Alcohol+ Viagra) + (Cute Girls + Sex) = HEAVEN

Hinode- You need Pharmaceutical Grade ED Durgs. The Herbal ED stuff don't work with alcohol, too weak.

I heard Anti-deppressants work, mentally only. Never tried that.

Anybody seen Cherry (She use to be at Venus)? I she still here in Hawaii?

I like her. Cute, tight body and a good sport. Very playful. She really gets into it too. I try to do a new girl each time, but, sometimes there's no cute girls, or girls I feel comfortable with, so I look for my guarantee cuties that put-out.

Tommyah
10-07-07, 14:28
Negative Review Report:

The Thai/Chinese Girl that was at Pink's, is that her at King's now?

Pink's Mama let her go 'cause too many complaints.

She always has headphones on listening to Rap Music and bobing to the beat.

She's to bossey, gives poor service, won't clean you up after.

Just letting you all know. She acts like a spoiled BRAT!!

Nothing personal against her, just a report to my fellow mongers.

Makana9
10-07-07, 14:31
Usually when I monger drunk (yeah I know its stupid, thanks for caring tho) I cant perform and my money goes to waste. Perhaps this time with some good food in my stomach I was able to unload the last 2x out.

Went to-- I dont even know the name, forget already, dunno even WHY I went THERE when I got rejected months ago, but its on the corner of keeamoku and the street with maui divers, 1 block makai of King St.

Sign said open, no door bell or what not, I hear a voice saying hello, come inside, mama (im guessing) asks me for house fee, and if i wanna shower, i said no. leads me to room while I wait.

I coulda sworn this girl was vietnamese, she looked like it, young looking maybe 30s, mighta been korean, dont know/dont care.

standard once again: cbj, cg, reverse cg, doggie, mish to finish. I usually HATE doggie style, but she was riding me damn good. when we went to mish, for some drunken reason, I rammed her HARD just 1 time, 1 thrust. She lifted her index finger to me and said, dont fuckin do that. I just snickered evilly, hehehe. blew my load, hot towel to finish me up, left in a drunken stupor still.

Ii don't even think i asked for her name.

L: 5
A: 5
S: 7

Prob wont repeat.

HinodeIf she when raised her finger to you, must have pissed her & her kitty off. Wanted boom boom, not hawaiian pound pound.

Bet she going remember you though.

CM0069
10-07-07, 16:30
Hmmm. Only wish I remember what it said now that you mention it. I wonder if I even did post anything after my Sophia comments earlier.

Shortsword
10-08-07, 07:12
Negative Review Report:

The Thai/Chinese Girl that was at Pink's, is that her at King's now?

Pink's Mama let her go 'cause too many complaints.

She always has headphones on listening to Rap Music and bobing to the beat.

She's to bossey, gives poor service, won't clean you up after.

Just letting you all know. She acts like a spoiled BRAT!!

Nothing personal against her, just a report to my fellow mongers.The only thai girl I know at King's went by the handle "nina" when I was with her, but she was talking about switching handles. My only thing was I thought she rambled on a little too much. Kinda killed the mood a little. But she has a very nice tight petite body. And a great ass too. Looks I would give her an 8. But the sex. Maybe a 5. A low 5. I guess I might repeat but only if there wasn't anyone else in and too lazy to go to another place.

Oysterogo
10-08-07, 11:57
Stopped by PC Relaxation and was serviced by Mia. Average looking korean girl thats a little chubby around her mid section. Not really a great session. She didn't offer a shower, just told me to get undress and lie down. After she got undressed and I really got to see her body, I sorta lost a little interest in her. Well went throught the motions cbj, cg, doggie and finish in mish. She was playful though, with some kissing. Allowed nipple sucking and daty if I wanted. Also didnt object to fingering her butt while doing her from behind. Damage 50/110

Pochoman34
10-08-07, 20:28
I seen in the ps that there is a new place Massage by Three Girls anybody got any info on this place.

Tendo
10-08-07, 22:39
Short Sword

Nice report, but what was she korean, chinese, thai? And why did she get a 5 for service? How bad was she? Did she just lay there? Mechanical? A little more info would be nice.

Keep up the good work though. And don't forget to write up the bar girl/al moana story.

-Tendo

Shortsword
10-09-07, 01:49
Short Sword

Nice report, but what was she korean, chinese, thai? And why did she get a 5 for service? How bad was she? Did she just lay there? Mechanical? A little more info would be nice.

Keep up the good work though. And don't forget to write up the bar girl/al moana story.

-TendoAh shit, Ten. Thanks. Alright. Uncle Shorty's story-time. Few years back I went to one of the KB's behind HMSA building. Met a hostess named "Nidi" (say 'needy'). So one day I meet up with her at AM for a date. We meet at one of the high end stores and I quickly point her toward Macy's. At the shiseido counter she asks for a couple of things and I figure I could spare a few bucks (it was under $). We buy it and move on. Then in the lingere section she changes her mind and asks me to exchange the cosmetics and buy her some clothes instead ($-$$). I take the cosmetics back and the girl at the counter nearly has a cow. I ask her what's the deal and she tried to brush me off. I tell it's cool, I need to know, and I slip her some cash. She tells me that Nidi does this every other week with a different guy, buys, returns, and I guess gradually climb the ladder to the next bigger prize. Damn. That was was the red light. Time to evac. Instead of digging out (what I should have done), I go back and try and be civil. I tell her something came up and I have to leave. I walk her back to her car and damn. It's a cherry lexus. She drives me to my car and before I get out, she invites me to some shindig at the bar. She stops when some older (almost middle aged) asian dude starts pounding on the glass. He looks PISSED. He yells and motions at me to get out of the car. To this day, I think if I wasn't almost a foot taller than the guy I would've had a scrap on my hands. He jumped into the car, slammed the door, and for the next few minutes sat and watched arms flailing and muffled shouting. Just as I was wondering bout calling in LE, the guy hops out, slams the door, and mutters something in a language I didn't quite understand. Nidi, for her part, calls me back over to the car to assure me everything is okay and that she would still really be happy to see me at the bar. Needless to say, never went back to that place.

Alohashorts
10-09-07, 02:12
Stopped by PC Relaxation and was serviced by Mia. Average looking korean girl thats a little chubby around her mid section. Not really a great session. Allowed nipple sucking and daty if I wanted. Also didnt object to fingering her butt while doing her from behind. Damage 50/110Is that the Mia that used to work at Century Center on the bottom floor, then later at Golden? A little thick, cute face, apple ass. Nipple sucking, daty, fingering sounds familiar.

Genji88
10-09-07, 04:36
Hey, based on this forum, I gave siam thai a try

I got a new girl, may, Chinese. Nice skinny body. No extras at all. Unlikely to get them in the future. But that body is pretty tempting.

This place is pretty open, I could hear everything going on in the next "room". There's just a divider in between.

May try the other girls based on reports. Not sure how easy extras are to get here because of the layout.

Any good recommendations on good massage, nice looking girl with extras? I know probably v. Hard to find this combination.

Makana9
10-09-07, 10:53
I don't think Jenny and Coco are the same person, because when I was at SiSi Massage and had Sisi she mentioned to me to try either Jenny or Coco too. So it cannot be the same person.

Sisi gives a good light touch/erotic type of massage. $1 total for hj and massage, would repeat.I was told the same thing last night, when I went to Sisi, late&last appt.

Good as usual, made idle wala'au to catch up what doing & such, since I also have not been there in a yr. or so.

She said, next time you go see Jenny(she went home already) or coco. So it did sound like 2 diff persos.

Forget if had coco or not, again its been awhile since last here.

Sisi does look a lot has changed, looks, talk, even asked about my work(she did remember what I do).

Will see Jenny next time, but sisi did mention no say nothing to her about touchytouchy feely feely. YMMV

Oysterogo
10-09-07, 11:40
Is that the Mia that used to work at Century Center on the bottom floor, then later at Golden? A little thick, cute face, apple ass. Nipple sucking, daty, fingering sounds familiar.


Sorry dude, I really don't know. That was the only time I've seen her and don't know the Mia from CC.

Kapalua
10-09-07, 14:27
Is that the Mia that used to work at Century Center on the bottom floor, then later at Golden? A little thick, cute face, apple ass. Nipple sucking, daty, fingering sounds familiar.
The provider you're describing sounds like "Mina" (not Mia), who formerly worked at Tokyo Relaxation on the ground floor of Century Center, subsequently worked at Golden Massage, was chubby, had a cute face, had a relatively full behind, and allowed the activities you mention. It's doubtful that Mina is the "Mia" now working at Pearl City Relaxation. Although I've lost track of Mina, the last I knew she was working at Golden Massage. If she's currently working at some other place, I'm sure another member can update her location.

Tommyah
10-09-07, 19:09
I know of a Mina that fits that discription.

Met her about 4 years ago? The place was upstairs in the grey building makai of the Pink, Golden Girl, Hibiscus Building.

Ran into her again at VIP about 2 years ago?

Didn't know was her till 'waz in the room.

She was growing up and gained a little. Still Cute.

Hadn't seen her since.

Does that help?

Hey evil. Thanks.

Kekehawaii
10-09-07, 22:11
Hey, based on this forum, I gave siam thai a try

I got a new girl, may, Chinese. Nice skinny body. No extras at all. Unlikely to get them in the future. But that body is pretty tempting.

This place is pretty open, I could hear everything going on in the next "room". There's just a divider in between.

May try the other girls based on reports. Not sure how easy extras are to get here because of the layout.

Any good recommendations on good massage, nice looking girl with extras? I know probably v. Hard to find this combination.Isn't she the skinny one that worked at Island Mass in the same building? If so, she use to provide extras all the time. In fact, my first visit to her she gave me a HJ, but asked for. 5 just before beginning it. I still had my eyes closed and enjoying her massage when she propped me. She does give some strong massages.

Alohano
10-10-07, 02:32
Keke,

That is absolutely the same therapist that used to work at IM..under the name of Patty. I saw her at Siam..after many, many happy endings at IM and still a no go. I am not sure if it was her personal decision or a directive from Nina. But in the absence of a happy ending, pretty much everyone else at Siam Thai should be preferred vs May.

Kimoboi
10-10-07, 06:21
Hello All,

Well I've been reading this forum for a while now, and it got me interested in visiting an AMP. (Haven't ever been to one, or even paid for sex before!)

Anyways, this weekend I'm visiting Oahu and wanted to know the scoops on some places. Not looking to spend too much (still in college, no mo plenty $$), but I still want to get the most out my experience. I figured since you guys have mongering experience you guys might be able to give some advice?

Much Mahalos!

Alohashorts
10-10-07, 06:25
The provider you're describing sounds like "Mina" (not Mia), who formerly worked at Tokyo Relaxation on the ground floor of Century Center, subsequently worked at Golden Massage, was chubby, had a cute face, had a relatively full behind, and allowed the activities you mention. It's doubtful that Mina is the "Mia" now working at Pearl City Relaxation. Although I've lost track of Mina, the last I knew she was working at Golden Massage. If she's currently working at some other place, I'm sure another member can update her location.Right! Thanks for putting me straight. Got my hopes up because I also lost track of her.

Tadhook
10-10-07, 15:34
The provider you're describing sounds like "Mina" (not Mia), who formerly worked at Tokyo Relaxation on the ground floor of Century Center, subsequently worked at Golden Massage, was chubby, had a cute face, had a relatively full behind, and allowed the activities you mention. It's doubtful that Mina is the "Mia" now working at Pearl City Relaxation. Although I've lost track of Mina, the last I knew she was working at Golden Massage. If she's currently working at some other place, I'm sure another member can update her location.
Mina moved from Golden to Rosemarrie on Ward. That's the last I heard.

Hawaii 50
10-10-07, 19:04
Isn't she the skinny one that worked at Island Mass in the same building? If so, she use to provide extras all the time. In fact, my first visit to her she gave me a HJ, but asked for. 5 just before beginning it. I still had my eyes closed and enjoying her massage when she propped me. She does give some strong massages.You're right. May was called Paddy or Patty when she worked at I'm. She is more careful now that she works at Siam Thai. She gives HJ for. 5 if you're a repeat customer. PG

Hawaii 50
10-10-07, 19:09
I was told the same thing last night, when I went to Sisi, late&last appt.

Good as usual, made idle wala'au to catch up what doing & such, since I also have not been there in a yr. or so.

She said, next time you go see Jenny(she went home already) or coco. So it did sound like 2 diff persos.

Forget if had coco or not, again its been awhile since last here.

Sisi does look a lot has changed, looks, talk, even asked about my work(she did remember what I do).

Will see Jenny next time, but sisi did mention no say nothing to her about touchytouchy feely feely. YMMVI've had Jenny and Coco at Sisi's place. Coco is an older chinese lady...hour long massage w/happy ending for $. Jenny acted pissed off because most customers assumed she gave extras because she works at Sisi's place. I'm hoping she's only pulling my chain 'coz I'd love a HJ (or more) from her. PG

Hinode
10-11-07, 03:33
The provider you're describing sounds like "Mina" (not Mia), who formerly worked at Tokyo Relaxation on the ground floor of Century Center, subsequently worked at Golden Massage, was chubby, had a cute face, had a relatively full behind, and allowed the activities you mention. It's doubtful that Mina is the "Mia" now working at Pearl City Relaxation. Although I've lost track of Mina, the last I knew she was working at Golden Massage. If she's currently working at some other place, I'm sure another member can update her location.

Braddah Kapalua,

Last time I seen Mina was about 3 months ago. She was at Rappongi right next door to Exotic Nights. I really wanted to try that PHAT local chick with the SWEET ASS-- but Mina got real "J" and grabbed my hand and escorted me into the room.

One of these times, Im just gonna do a local girl in a AMP just because SHE'S LOCAL.

Hinode

Hinode
10-11-07, 03:38
Not to turn this into a soap opera drama, but to reiterate what Tadhook said;

While at King Relaxation with "Maya"-- I *think* that was her name, the Thai girl;

She stroked me to erection with her hand, didnt go down on me with the condom, as I got hard, she said, "Nice."

"You gonna rock my world with that big Asian cock?"

I laughed, thinking to myself, "No, Im not here to please YOU, Im just here to get my rocks off."

She was tight, and when I came, I moaned a little, and she said, "oOoOooHH Honey, I know *exactly* how that feels. You made me explode too."

Yeah right. She's saying what she wants me to hear. Again, these providers are doing what they do because its their livelyhood, whether they like it or not, most we can do as mongers is just respect them and their profession, like any other job, its all about customer service, right?

Hinode

Hinode
10-11-07, 03:43
Howzit braddahs..

I went to Judy's looking for the infamous Junko. I was drunk, and just thought of her when my thoughts strayed to Golden Massage.

Got there late, I know one other time I got there late the sign said they were closed. So mama let me in, and escorted me into a room with a mattress on the ground. Asked me for shower, I said NO, and waited. She said, "take off your clothes, you know what to do, right?" I said yeah. She asked for the house fee, gave it to her.

..I believe her name was "Candi?" (SP) Candy/Kandi (whatevers) gave (at the time I so thought) a great massage, for just .50. I wanted more, and tried to reach out and touch her, and she said, "You paid mama the house fee, right?" I said, yeah. She said, OK, thats enough, please put on your clothes, and thank you.

Escorted me to the door, I asked if I could get FS, she said, NO. Sorry. If you want that, go to another place. I shrugged my shoulders, looked at her, smiled, and left.

My neck is all fuckin sore now. Probably because I cannot handle ruff massages. But she was aiight. Would NOT repeat.

L: 5
A: 7
S: 6

Hinode

Member #3973
10-11-07, 06:10
Again, these providers are doing what they do because its their livelyhood, whether they like it or not, most we can do as mongers is just respect them and their profession, like any other job, its all about customer service, right?

Hinode

Good point Hinode.

They are VERY good at building a mongers self confidence. If you
look marginally better than the hunchback from Notre Dame, you are handsome.
If you got two arms and two legs, you've got a great body. If you've got
a beerbelly, you must be doing "bodybuilding". If you've got more than 4",
jeez, it's so big they are in trouble, and if you last more than 5 min you
are a GREAT lover - and they make you think they got off at least 3 times.

The amazing thing is that they make us believe them (-because we want to, ofcourse), and we walk out of the AMP with a confidence as James Bond on a good day.

That's what makes the AMP girls REAL pros and worth every penny we spend on them!

Have fun mongering!

Hypo Luxa
10-11-07, 06:27
They are VERY good at building a mongers self confidence. If you
look marginally better than the hunchback from Notre Dame, you are handsome.
If you got two arms and two legs, you've got a great body. If you've got
a beerbelly, you must be doing "bodybuilding". If you've got more than 4",
jeez, it's so big they are in trouble, and if you last more than 5 min you
are a GREAT lover - and they make you think they got off at least 3 times.
What? Nooooooooooooo! You've ruined my FANTASY!!!

:-)

Man, did you nail it! Mama must teach them that script on their first day!

Comp Dude 35
10-11-07, 13:15
I've had Jenny and Coco at Sisi's place. Coco is an older chinese lady...hour long massage w/happy ending for $. Jenny acted pissed off because most customers assumed she gave extras because she works at Sisi's place. I'm hoping she's only pulling my chain 'coz I'd love a HJ (or more) from her. PGMy bad, dudes.

I wonder if Jenny is the thai girl? She wanted to charge .6 instead of the normal .5
Asked her if she did extras and she said no, she "don't do HJ"....nice looker, but not interested if no extras.

The Dude

Hinode
10-11-07, 13:47
Brothers,

Anybody know of a good massage I can get in the .60 range? I know Jean was top notch the "one" time I went to see her-- but after reading the most recent reports on her, I find it hard to believe that her service and attitude has gone down hill???

My neck, back, and shoulder is killing me. I think that "Candy" at Judy's didnt know what she was doing with her sub-par massage. I need somebody to make me feel like a million bucks, with or without a happy ending, it doesnt matter.

Just make this pain go away! :(

Thanks in advance,
Hinode

Member #3925
10-11-07, 14:15
If sharing such tips is not exactly for public eye, please PM me, or E-mail me. My address is my username in here, AT good old Yahoo. Thanks in advance, and I will be posting the update about my second visit to CH, after it happens.While I'm not the most computer savy guy out there I'm pretty sure posting your E-mail address on a site like this is not the best thing to do. If I send you an E-mail then you know mine. Makes me a little nervous. I wonder how many responses you got via E-mail and if anything could ever be done with that information if it fell into the wrong hands. I'm not saying LE uses this board to hunt down individual mongers but you know they are out there.

Makana9
10-11-07, 14:23
Has anyone ever had a massage at A's barber shop?

I know they have Thai girls there and offer massage.

Also, does anyone know if A gives massage?

MaahaloIts across Golden Massage on the makai side of King St.

Through the coconut wireless network, heard massagee in the back behind the curtains. Not sure who, but thats what another mongerer said to us a few weeks ago at SL.

Member #3973
10-11-07, 14:34
Brothers,

Anybody know of a good massage I can get in the .60 range? I know Jean was top notch the "one" time I went to see her-- but after reading the most recent reports on her, I find it hard to believe that her service and attitude has gone down hill???


Jean is probably your best choice. You can get a regular massage without
release for .60.

Noriko old Japanese in CC and Hiroko's place in CC both give
good therapeutic massage. No release is available. Neida, who
used to work at Hiroko's gives awsome massages. Completely fixed
a neck/shoulder pain I had had for over a month in 2 visits.

Jade Stone Spa on Kona St is another option for good massage,
and -although I haven't been there to any of them, the thai massage places
in CC. Girls should be hot looking.

CM0069
10-11-07, 19:37
Keke,

That is absolutely the same therapist that used to work at IM..under the name of Patty. I saw her at Siam..after many, many happy endings at IM and still a no go. I am not sure if it was her personal decision or a directive from Nina. But in the absence of a happy ending, pretty much everyone else at Siam Thai should be preferred vs May.It would not surprise me if it was a little of both a personal decision(ymmv) and Nina.

I remembered the first time I ran into her at siam a short while from leaving IM that her attitude was extremely cautious about it, so I figured she is or has to be more legit at siam.

Widget
10-11-07, 23:37
Brothers,

Anybody know of a good massage I can get in the .60 range? I know Jean was top notch the "one" time I went to see her-- but after reading the most recent reports on her, I find it hard to believe that her service and attitude has gone down hill???

My neck, back, and shoulder is killing me. I think that "Candy" at Judy's didnt know what she was doing with her sub-par massage. I need somebody to make me feel like a million bucks, with or without a happy ending, it doesnt matter.

Just make this pain go away! :(

Thanks in advance,

HinodeNana did a good massage when she was at Ohana and so does Ruby/Kim. Her massage was a little stronger than Ruby/Kim. Depends what you like.

S Hunter
10-12-07, 01:18
Over the past few weeks, I checked out Hana, Oriental, Crystal Healing and King. They all had older ladies for those of you that like that.

The best looking lady I saw, both face and body, was Donna at King. But she was the grumpiest. I don't know if that had to do with a bruddah monger leaving upset and asking for the house money back or what. They ushered me into a room pronto and I could hear the bruddah asking for his money back. I thought about leaving then, but thought that if they made one guy unhappy, they might try harder for me. I shoulda stuck with plan a.

I wasn't overly thrilled with any of the four. I just wanted to try them out. Just one note, the mama at Hana looked the nastiest. Meaning she might give it up the most. She was wearing a see through top and little skirt when I went. I had to pinch them nips that were poking out at me.

Dragon419
10-12-07, 02:20
Haven't read a review of the Ward area in a while so decided to check out the action. Golden Queen still amazes me where anyone can walk right in and the girls are right there for your choosing. At the time close to midnight about 5-6 slutty looking Koreans, 1 local and one mixed (maybe part black) nothing to my liking. Next door at Pink was one girl in a bikini. Got up to Rose Mari and 2 girls sitting on a sofa. Chose Joey, cute natural boobs, sexy school girl outfit. Mama gave me the same line ". Long time no see". I guess that's better than asking me if I one cop. Hehe. Shower was promising as she spent a lot of time on my a hole. Sure enough in the room she tongue probed me in the hole for quite a long time. Wish my urologist (female) would do that instead of using her finger. BBBJ followed and I was ready to blow. Then she got very mechanical and tried to dictate things. No DATY, no DFK, no boob sucking. Did some mish, CG and finished in doggie. Then she rushed me out of there, definitely no GFE. L: 8, A: 5, S: 6 will not repeat.

Mravcapo69
10-12-07, 06:32
While I'm not the most computer savy guy out there I'm pretty sure posting your E-mail address on a site like this is not the best thing to do. If I send you an E-mail then you know mine. Makes me a little nervous. I wonder how many responses you got via E-mail and if anything could ever be done with that information if it fell into the wrong hands. I'm not saying LE uses this board to hunt down individual mongers but you know they are out there.Hi HowRich,

I’ll be honest with you. I received absolutely no response to my question. But I don’t think that the reason for not receiving any responses was the one you thinking of. I really think that the reason why no one responded was because I am new to the board, and people don’t know me. Unfortunately, I can’t fix that problem in this short period of time that I will be here on the island. Trust is earned over longer time than what I have. Besides, I am not a big player here. I do it occasionally for recreational purposes, and as I said before, I am not a loyal customer to any of those places. Do you honestly think I would post in here my regular E-mail address provided by my ISP containing my real name and home address, and do you really think my name is Mravcapo69?? I hope none of you mongers out there are that crazy. Setting up a Yahoo or Google, or whatever free mail service you want to use, mail account is as easy as 123 and it takes about 10 seconds, ok maybe 15 if you type reallllllyyyyyyy slooooowwww or you are still using dialup to access the internet. It asks you to provide a name, but has no way of checking if that’s you or not. It is free so you don’t need to provide credit card or any other personal information. I usually pick a common name. John Smith works just fine. I have more than one mail account that I use for different purposes, and I don’t care in who’s hands my account information would fall, there is nothing that would give away my identity. Since it is a web based mail account, I don’t have to be at my computer to check my messages. I do it from work, from home, from Starbucks, from public library, from computer stores that have live internet connections, from internet café places, etc. So if I would send you an E-mail from that account, if you are using your only E-mail address provided by your ISP, than yes I would have your name and whatever else it would come with it. But if you get an E-mail from me, and if you can figure out which John Smith am I, please give me a call, and we’ll get together and exchange some info in person. I truly hope none of you fellow mongers use your one and only E-mail account to sign up in here or any other sites related to this hobby. I am sure you cover you tracks well on all other bases, so don’t slip up and leave this one wide open. Get yourself a general E-mail account to use without any of your personal info. HowRich, I hope this answers your question.

Mravcapo69
10-12-07, 08:32
Since by now I am pretty familiar with AMP locations in Wal-Mart’s neighborhood, and going back to CH was not on my priority list, the other night I decided to explore the ones on Ward Ave. There are 3 in the same building, Pink, Rappongi and there was a couple of signs for the Grand Opening of Golden Queen. So I walked inside of all three just to check out what’s one the menu. After walking and a quick scan over the choices, Pink and Rappongi, left me pretty uninterested. Rappongi had a one cute Asian girl, and the other one was doing something on the laptop. Man, she was scary looking. Big asian gurl. Not fat, just unusually big, with the big head. I was looking for some kind of a chain around her neck to hold her off from biting my head off. On the other side of the building, at Pink, there was Asian girl with a short black hair, pretty cute and I wouldn’t mind trying her out. I would give her a 7 for looks. And than I walked up to the door of Golden Queen. Mama was very nice and tried to convince me to come in and get a shower. Perhaps it’s that "new place" hospitality trying to win your business. I politely told her I didn’t have time but will return. What I saw there was definitely worth returning. There was an Asian girl at the door who started talking to me and convincing me to stay. Inside there were two very cute local girls. Curly hair blond, and dirty blond, straight hair with highlights. And a third girl I couldn’t exactly place her origin. They all looked like they were in their mid to early 20’s. All together I would give them all 8 for appearance, perhaps even 9, considering we’re talking about AMP’s and not the playboy mansion. All in all I was very impressed with the choices and I had to come back. But the night was still young and I went over to check what’s on the menu at the VIP and PT. At VIP, there were couple of blond haole, couple local girls, and one Asian. I am not sure if that’ all that was available, but that was all I’ve seen. In my opinion, they were pretty nice as well, all 7 and 8 on looks, and worth checking out. I than walked into PT. There were 5 girls there sitting on the couches. One looked all right, but the others I couldn’t see. Mama asked me to come in, but she is a character. I don’t know what she was doing in her previous life, but in this one, before the AMP career, she must have been one of the higher ranking officers in North Korea’s army reporting directly to Kim Jong. I am sorry, but the place gave me chills. Mama was pretty rough on the outside, and the fact that none of the girls would even look at me as I entered the room, didn’t give me a welcome feeling. All of them looked like they didn’t want to be there, and I was just another guy one of them will have to fuck because mama’s got their passports and lives in her hands. That may, or may not be true, but that’s the feeling I got. So I decided to go home for the night.

Mravcapo69
10-12-07, 08:33
But the next night, without hesitation, I went straight to the GQ on Ward. I’ve seen couple of guys go in before me, so I decided to take a walk around the block couple of times to give little time. I figured there will be slim picking if I go there at the busy time. About half an hour later, I went in. Unlike at the Pine Three, it’s nice when you walk in, and everyone smiles at you. Starting with Mama and all 4 girls sitting around. Mama showed me the way to the room and asked for house fee. 5. I gave it to her, and she said "I have a local girl and Korean girl, which would you prefer? " Because I really have this thing about Asian girls, I said I wanted the Korean girl. I also said that because, as Mama was walking me to the room, we passed by this really, really cute Asian girl with the long, straight black hair. She was talking on her cell, and looked at me as we passed next to her, but she was still in her street clothes because I saw her walking in just before me. So my hopes were that she would be the Korean girl Mama was talking about. Well, it turns out my wish was not granted. In walks this girl, easy on the eyes, but I didn’t see her in the room when I walked in, nor did I see her night before when I just stopped bye, and she certainly wasn’t the one I’ve seen talking on the cell phone. I’d say she is in her late 20’s, or perhaps even early 30’s. "Hi, I am Annie" she said, and I introduced myself. "would you like a shower, or. " And she smiled. I said I don’t need a shower since I took one just before coming there, so we could go straight to the massage. She smiled and said, "Honey, there is no massage here. " Little small talk, and than she asked me to undress and she will be back in a minute. I undressed, laid down on the table on my stomach, and waited for couple of minutes. She came in, undressed, started running her tongue from my ankles up to my butt, and than started with the good body rub. Couple minutes like that, and some small talk, and she asks me to turn around. I turned around, already semi erected. More body rubbing, sucking on her nipples, playing with her clit, but she wouldn’t let me finger her deep. She seemed to be getting excited from my playing with her clit and sucking on her nips. So she turns around in 69 and starts with the BJ. She was so smooth with her moves, I didn’t even notice when she put the rubber on my partner in crime. All this time I am thinking she is giving me a BBBJ. After a couple of minutes of that, she turns around and says "are you ready? " And I, like a rookie, asked her "aren’t you going to use a rubber. She just took my partner, and said, it’ already there. Damn, she was quick haha. Anyhow, from there on, she started riding me first squatting like porn star, and than sat down on me like your significant other would. Her body was pretty tight all over except she had little extra on her belly. Her tities felt fake, but I couldn’t notice any scars. Still nice to play with, and responsive nips. She also had a brown hair with a few highlights, and a light tattoo of a butterfly on her right shoulder. After a while we switched to doggie, gave her some good pounding and unloaded like that. Little more small talk, went out to get a towel, wiped me off, and all this time she never mentioned anything about the tip. So I brought the subject up, and she said minimum 1. 5. I put that "confused" face on me, and said "oh shit, I only have a $. " She said that’s fine, but next time you know it’s 1. 5. I said certainly, thinking, I may never see her again. Not because of anything, but because time is not on my side and I am not going to be here much longer. Also, as I said before, I like to try new things. I am not a loyal customer, and rarely repeat with the same girl. In conclusion, she was overall pretty decent, but I wish now that I asked for a local girl instead. Two locals were much hotter than Annie is. I just hope that this is not one of those places where front window is full of display dolls, and back rooms are where the workers are.

My ratings
F=5
B=5
A=7
S=7

My only dilemma right now is that I really want to try at least one of those local girls. That little curly blond smiled at me nicely as I was walking out. She seems like she could be a lot of fun. So how do I go back there to try other samples without offending Annie, if she seas me? Do I give Annie the remainder of the tip she suggested and thank her, but explain that I would like to try someone different. Or do I just play stupid and go there anyway without feeling the need to give any explanations? Or do I just go to a different place all together? I would appreciate some suggestions from local and more experienced mongers. Thanks!

Van Deventer
10-12-07, 11:43
Nana did a good massage when she was at Ohana and so does Ruby/Kim. Her massage was a little stronger than Ruby/Kim. Depends what you like.Maria gives a good legit massage. Her info is in the Pennsysaver. She looks like a classic MILF, but I never was able to receive any extras.

Tommyah
10-12-07, 13:40
Went out for my usual weekly ORT at a AMP.

Started at the Bar, poped my Cialas and was ready to adventure.

Funny thing happened.

I got "picked up" by a one of the girls at that bar.

She told me she divorced about a year ago and hadn't been with a guy since.

Bought her 3 beers 'cause she wanted to get drunk.

Followed her to her place.

Wow! For an older girl, she had a young girl's body.

You fellow Mongers know what I mean.

She held me tight and was really into it. Made me feel good.

She showed me photos of her modeling when she was yonger. Pretty!

Looked like she was HOT STUFF as a girl. She aged beautifully.

Did the Blind Squirrel find an Acorn?

Member #3973
10-12-07, 20:05
Forgot to mention that Erlinda gives an excellent therapeutic massage.
She is in the Kaheka Professional Center at 1481 South King Street (corner of Kaheka and South King), and her number is 292-4190.

Don't count on extras.

Kapalua
10-12-07, 21:09
Well I've been reading this forum for a while now, and it got me interested in visiting an AMP. (Haven't ever been to one, or even paid for sex before!)

Anyways, this weekend I'm visiting Oahu and wanted to know the scoops on some places. Not looking to spend too much (still in college, no mo plenty $$), but I still want to get the most out my experience. I figured since you guys have mongering experience you guys might be able to give some advice?
You might want to carefully read or re-read the forum, which contains much useful information, and then post any specific questions you may have that aren't answered by information already posted in the forum. You may receive a more helpful response by posting specific questions rather than just a general request for advice.

Smily75
10-12-07, 21:29
Jus wondering cause a bunch off LE where parked in front around 11:00am I think. but it is Atkinson so could have been something else.

Hypo Luxa
10-13-07, 01:32
Mravcapo69, typically local girls (usually blondes are referred to as haoles, asian chicks raised here are local girls) have historically given sub-par service. And, haole chicks (blondes especially) have given even worse service. That's a generalization I know, but it's held pretty true for the most part.

Good luck and thanks for an informative post.

Asianlover4u
10-13-07, 04:00
Went to this japanese massage add in the classifieds. The place is at the building next to china town, 205 s. king. There is an old (not very pretty or fugly) korean lady who gives bj or hj. Massage was ok, she does ball massage too. price is .6 massage .4 for the hj and .1 for bj.

Will probably not repeat.

Primal Needs
10-13-07, 04:49
Mravcapo69, typically local girls (usually blondes are referred to as haoles, asian chicks raised here are local girls) have historically given sub-par service.

Mravcapo69,

I gotta agree with Hypo on that one. I've only had four locals in all my mongering, but each time they had a laundry list of rules. No tittie-sucking, no this, no that, etc... So you might want to go in expecting that to avoid disappointment.

A couple of them tried to charge more because they thought they were hot commodities, being "exotically" local and all (exotically non-Korean).

Prior reports seem to indicate that mine's and Hypo's experiences are not unique.

Primal Needs

Aaron Colt
10-13-07, 05:35
Jus wondering cause a bunch off LE where parked in front around 11:00am I think. but it is Atkinson so could have been something else.Isn't there road work/construction work going on right out in front of NY? May explain the presence of LE.

Aaron Colt
10-13-07, 05:40
Mravcapo69,

I gotta agree with Hypo on that one. I've only had four locals in all my mongering, but each time they had a laundry list of rules. No tittie-sucking, no this, no that, etc... So you might want to go in expecting that to avoid disappointment.

A couple of them tried to charge more because they thought they were hot commodities, being "exotically" local and all (exotically non-Korean).

Prior reports seem to indicate that mine's and Hypo's experiences are not unique.

Primal NeedsOffer more money, some provide some don't.

Not all local girls and white chicks provide subpar services. There's actually a lot that provide good service. It's the amount of time and money you want to put in to the effort is the challenging part.

Kapalua
10-13-07, 06:21
Went to this japanese massage add in the classifieds. The place is at the building next to china town, 205 s. king. There is an old (not very pretty or fugly) korean lady who gives bj or hj. Massage was ok, she does ball massage too. price is .6 massage .4 for the hj and .1 for bj.

Will probably not repeat.
Sometimes I enjoy older women for variety, so I might be interested. A few questions, if you don't mind. The only Japanese massage ad that I saw in the classified section of the Advertiser contains an address of 215 North King Street (not 205 South King Street) -- is that the same one to which you refer? Is the bj a bbbj? Finally, is the ".1 for bj" (presumably $10) a typo, or does she really only charge that small amount extra for a bj? Thanks in advance for any additional information that you can provide.

Kapalua
10-13-07, 06:57
Mravcapo69, typically local girls (usually blondes are referred to as haoles, asian chicks raised here are local girls) have historically given sub-par service. And, haole chicks (blondes especially) have given even worse service. That's a generalization I know, but it's held pretty true for the most part.
Regarding providers in AMPs, I would strongly agree with that general rule. In fact, now I almost automatically exclude haole women in AMPs from consideration.

Interestingly, however, over the years I've had many good experiences with haole and local streetwalkers downtown (in the areas away from Longs). They often seem to have better personalities than haole and local women in AMPs.

Mravcapo69
10-13-07, 07:37
Mravcapo69, typically local girls (usually blondes are referred to as haoles, asian chicks raised here are local girls) have historically given sub-par service. And, haole chicks (blondes especially) have given even worse service. That's a generalization I know, but it's held pretty true for the most part.

Good luck and thanks for an informative post.Hypo Luxa,

Thanks for enlightenment on some of the local terminology. It’s not hard to see I am new to this area and still learning. After studying this forum for a while, I’ve found in many other posts statements that confirm your warnings about haoles. The blonds at the Golden Queen that I was referring to, appeared to be blonds only because they chose that color of the shelf, but from my quick glance, they looked like local girls, and I mean local Hawaiian girls or a mix. I think they were not haole. But than again, it was a quick glance so I may be wrong. At VIP, blonds were haoles, no question about that. VIP haoles didn’t strike me that much, even though they were pretty decent looking. But since I am going back to mainland soon, there will be plenty of that all over the place. Therefore my Honolulu AMP diet is strictly Asian or local while I am here. I may be going back to Golden Queen to give that curly blond a try, or perhaps the Asian with the long black hair. But than again, I am not so sure. I will post my next adventure, if and when it happens. I am not a frequent player, but I do it when it feels right. I apologize for my posts get somewhat long, but I try to be as detailed as I can. One thing I did forget to mention about the Golden Queen, and made me think about it later when it was too late. The room that I was in with Annie, had a large mirror on the wall. I didn’t think anything of it than, because lack of blood supply in my upper head makes me less rational at those moments. I am sure some of you can relate to that feeling. I am usually very careful, but I guess that time I’ve slipped and didn’t give it a quick check. I was wondering if the mirror was there for self viewing in the action, to enhance the experience or someone was watching the show on the other side. If that’s the only room with the mirror, maybe that’s where all the first time customers end up for picture taking and record keeping of old clients haha. I hope they don’t do that, because that would suck big time if they ever got raided. Of course I didn’t give them my real name, but still, picture is worth 1000 words. I felt like it could be one of those interrogation rooms that we all see in CSI and such shows. Perhaps sometimes I watch too much TV. I don’t care if the girls were watching. I am sure they enjoyed the show. Perhaps that’s why that curly blond gave me such a mischievous smile as I was leaving. But than again, maybe that’s all in my head. I just hope there is no anywhere recorded evidence of me being there. Well, I guess, too late now, but it is something that could be checked on my next visit if it happens, or some of you guys may pay little more attention to that. Once again, thanks for the insights, and if you have any recommendations on any place with choice of younger, and I mean legal age Asian ladies in their late teens (18 and 19) or twenties, I would appreciate it. Sorry, but I am just not much into ladies in their late 30’s, 40’s or 50’s. I am sure time and experience is on their side, but I’ll pass on that in exchange for freshness and firmness.

Primal Needs, thanks for your comments as well.

Joe Som
10-13-07, 07:39
Mina @ PT. 10's for l, a, s. GFE. Cute, c's, petite. Not rushed. Would repeat.

Joe Som
10-13-07, 07:43
It would not surprise me if it was a little of both a personal decision(ymmv) and Nina.

I remembered the first time I ran into her at siam a short while from leaving IM that her attitude was extremely cautious about it, so I figured she is or has to be more legit at siam.May was nothing special. She seemed to have an attitude. No extra's. In terms of massage, Tip was better.

Asianlover4u
10-13-07, 10:31
Sometimes I enjoy older women for variety, so I might be interested. A few questions, if you don't mind. The only Japanese massage ad that I saw in the classified section of the Advertiser contains an address of 215 North King Street (not 205 South King Street) -- is that the same one to which you refer? Is the bj a bbbj? Finally, is the ".1 for bj" (presumably $10) a typo, or does she really only charge that small amount extra for a bj? Thanks in advance for any additional information that you can provide.

Sorry you are right it is 215 N. King and it is 1., and for me it was a bbbj but ymmv.

Tadhook
10-13-07, 13:21
Hypo Luxa,

The room that I was in with Annie, had a large mirror on the wall. I didn’t think anything of it than, because lack of blood supply in my upper head makes me less rational at those moments. I am sure some of you can relate to that feeling. I am usually very careful, but I guess that time I’ve slipped and didn’t give it a quick check. I was wondering if the mirror was there for self viewing in the action, to enhance the experience or someone was watching the show on the other side. If that’s the only room with the mirror, maybe that’s where all the first time customers end up for picture taking and record keeping of old clients haha. I hope they don’t do that, because that would suck big time if they ever got raided. Of course I didn’t give them my real name, but still, picture is worth 1000 words. I felt like it could be one of those interrogation rooms that we all see in CSI and such shows. Perhaps sometimes I watch too much TV. I don’t care if the girls were watching. I am sure they enjoyed the show. Perhaps that’s why that curly blond gave me such a mischievous smile as I was leaving. But than again, maybe that’s all in my head. I just hope there is no anywhere recorded evidence of me being there. Well, I guess, too late now, but it is something that could be checked on my next visit if it happens, or some of you guys may pay little more attention to that. Once again, thanks for the insights, and if you have any recommendations on any place with choice of younger, and I mean legal age Asian ladies in their late teens (18 and 19) or twenties, I would appreciate it. Sorry, but I am just not much into ladies in their late 30’s, 40’s or 50’s. I am sure time and experience is on their side, but I’ll pass on that in exchange for freshness and firmness.

Primal Needs, thanks for your comments as well.
Here's a simple test to find out if the mirror is two-way or not:
Touch the mirror with the tip of your finger. If there's space between your fingertip and it's reflection, it's a regular mirror. If the fingertips touch, then it's two-way. Anytime you enter a room and see a mirror on the wall, do the test BEFORE you do anything else; you can always ask for another room.

Makana9
10-13-07, 15:16
Regarding providers in AMPs, I would strongly agree with that general rule. In fact, now I almost automatically exclude haole women in AMPs from consideration.

Interestingly, however, over the years I've had many good experiences with haole and local streetwalkers downtown (in the areas away from Longs). They often seem to have better personalities than haole and local women in AMPs. I would have to second that motion w/kapa. All haoles/mixed.

In the past, I have had pretty damn good service from the SWs by Longs also Madison (VG, was on outs w/tash at the time)

Lisa K. Mongered with her since the early 90s, I see her around every once in awhile (last nite to be exact) and same age as me, but looks like she in her late 50s now, the life will get to ya

Chanel. Was from the OC, great FS, even russian & greek if you reggie, she has since retired, or so I heard

Lori. Short, bbw, but use to bang you rough, cause as she so put it, the only way to F.

Jade. Petite w/enhanced. Was also a good F.

There was once a 23yr. Old "teri"(hubby deployed at the time) and she did the HTF so she could make some xtra coin & take care of her kitty as she so put. She said, NSA, the guy only there for one thing, she only there for as I quoted, so why not make some coin & get kitty polished.

Just to name a few.

As kapa puts it, the only haole I had decent service with was Sara, and she kind of goes eros now.

For my taste, not really white meat. As like eating the Turk, the dark meat alot of times more satisying and juicy. BUT again, IMHO & YMMV.

Lip Licker
10-13-07, 22:31
Many of the AMPs here have mirrors in the room, some at the head of the bed and some on the side. They are there for your viewing pleasure IMHO. It is funny that you thought it was a two-way because I had that same paranoia before. Most of them are pretty cheaply attached to the wall so you can see that there is nothing but dry-wall behind it. If it was a two-way, they would have to flush-mount it or do some creative carpentry in the middle. Besides a lot of these walls don't have enough space to mount any affordable surveilance equipment as they often only separate the adjacent room and all of the AMPs I have seen try to cram as many rooms as possible into their space.

Personally, I think it's great to have the mirror on the side so you can see the entire side profile of the girl in CG or when she's giving a BJ. When the girl has a great bod that's just an additional turn on for those of us who are visual.

Smily75
10-14-07, 07:07
Isn't there road work/construction work going on right out in front of NY? May explain the presence of LE.Nah, no construction that day and for awhile on that particular road. Must have been just been something small and stupid. You know how LE are in town, someones car could be slightly scrached and 6 squad cars show up like a bomb threat.

Mravcapo69
10-14-07, 08:07
Personally, I think it's great to have the mirror on the side so you can see the entire side profile of the girl in CG or when she's giving a BJ. When the girl has a great bod that's just an additional turn on for those of us who are visual.Enhancing the visual effects with the mirror is truly a great idea. Just to be on the safe side, and for my piece of mind, if there is a need in the future there will be quick mirror testing before any further action, as suggested in Tadhook’s post.

Kapalua
10-14-07, 23:22
Personally, I think it's great to have the mirror on the side so you can see the entire side profile of the girl in CG or when she's giving a BJ. When the girl has a great bod that's just an additional turn on for those of us who are visual.
In addition to watching the woman, a mirror enables me to watch myself while I fantasize that I'm a porn star. ;) Hey, even a guy who looks like Ron Jeremy was able to become a porn star! :D

Lip Licker
10-15-07, 02:30
Enhancing the visual effects with the mirror is truly a great idea. Just to be on the safe side, and for my piece of mind, if there is a need in the future there will be quick mirror testing before any further action, as suggested in Tadhook’s post.

I think that may not be an adequate test, it is just if the mirror coating is closer to the front of the glass(closest to you). If you can turn off the lights(most rooms should have a switch right by the door), turn it off and use a flashlight to see if the mirror looks a little translucent or if you can see a reflection off anything behind it. The few two-ways I have seen(not in any AMP) require a lot of illumination on the mirrored side and almost none on the viewing side.

I personally don't worry about that anymore as it doesn't make much sense for them to tape it. It creates something called evidence. Vice doesn't use such techniques, and if you are really paranoid, ask to do the standard SW cop check on the girl.

Bench Warmer
10-15-07, 04:08
Here's a simple test to find out if the mirror is two-way or not:
Touch the mirror with the tip of your finger. If there's space between your fingertip and it's reflection, it's a regular mirror. If the fingertips touch, then it's two-way. Anytime you enter a room and see a mirror on the wall, do the test BEFORE you do anything else; you can always ask for another room.

And here's something to add to your paranoia. On regular glass mirrors, you can scrape away a tiny dot from the back side of the mirror and put a pinhole camera there. It is very difficult to see where the mirror finish has been scraped, especially in a dark room. It will basically look like a black dot. But the pinhole camera can see everything.

Mravcapo69
10-15-07, 04:35
And here's something to add to your paranoia. On regular glass mirrors, you can scrape away a tiny dot from the back side of the mirror and put a pinhole camera there. It is very difficult to see where the mirror finish has been scraped, especially in a dark room. It will basically look like a black dot. But the pinhole camera can see everything.Oh nooo, I feel like I opened up a paranoia discussion. Pinhole cameras? WTF! Damn, what else? Perhaps listening devices, infra red heat detectors, GPS implants or perhaps even some satellite imagery to track every movement of all of us mongers. I am no security expert, but I wouldn’t think that pinhole cameras wouldn’t need mirrors, if someone would want to place them at AMP. I suppose, because of its size, you could place it anywhere on the wall or the ceiling and in the semi dark room it is hard to see it no matter where it is. Perhaps I should give up this mongering stuff all together and use the money to buy me a piece of land and start my new hobby of growing organic herbs. And I don’t mean something you could smoke, inhale or inject. Just plain old food additives.

John Ross
10-15-07, 04:37
And here's something to add to your paranoia. On regular glass mirrors, you can scrape away a tiny dot from the back side of the mirror and put a pinhole camera there. It is very difficult to see where the mirror finish has been scraped, especially in a dark room. It will basically look like a black dot. But the pinhole camera can see everything.Don't forget about all those surveillance devices that are disguised as everyday household items. Think fans, dgital clocks, boom boxes...

Slypher
10-15-07, 06:23
Don't forget about all those surveillance devices that are disguised as everyday household items. Think fans, dgital clocks, boom boxes...Gentlemen,

Do we have to make the Paranoia levels skyrocket? I mean. I don't even monger anymore. My current lover's keeping me more than satisfied. But with all the talk of Pinhole Cameras and Spy Fans and such it really makes me want to never go back to an AMP again. And I have to say that I love the whole Relaxation parlor experience.

Mravcapo69
10-15-07, 18:31
Gentlemen,

Do we have to make the Paranoia levels skyrocket? I mean. I don't even monger anymore. My current lover's keeping me more than satisfied. But with all the talk of Pinhole Cameras and Spy Fans and such it really makes me want to never go back to an AMP again. And I have to say that I love the whole Relaxation parlor experience.I was only joking in my post about starting the organic herb garden. This hobby of mongering is much more fun. Various sorts of paranoia can be applied to almost all aspects of life, therefore it can take life out of life. I live my life without thinking too much about it because truly what I do is not hurting anyone and should not bring any attention to my life style. Still, I like to be careful when situation calls for it. I think that’s the best I can do.

Member #3973
10-15-07, 20:58
Think!

The AMPs have more than enough to worry about with LE and the Massage Licensing Board. They hardly want to get in trouble with privacy laws by illegally recording patrons in sex acts without their knowledge. In most states that would be a felony. And what would they use the tapes for? Blackmail their customers? That is an even more serious crime.

Many places have a security camera covering the entrance so they can see the person(s) ringing their door bell. They may tape that, so if they get robbed they have some evidence for LE, but I doubt that they even do that.

No need to be paranoid!

John Ross
10-16-07, 00:43
I agree about the paranoia level being high. I doubt any AMP would record provider activities as it would provide evidence against them if there is a raid.

Primal Needs
10-16-07, 03:48
GPS implants or perhaps even some satellite imagery to track every movement of all of us mongers.

GPS implants? Wait a minute!
I thought that provider I had last week stuck her finger up my ass because she liked me!

Just kidding,
Primal Needs

Mravcapo69
10-16-07, 05:40
GPS implants? Wait a minute!

I thought that provider I had last week stuck her finger up my ass because she liked me!

Just kidding,

Primal NeedsNo man, she was just making sure you were not LE and checking if you were wired in any way, or anywhere. Sure they will tell you whatever you want to hear, like “it’s a prostate massage.” I guess one of these days you should try similar approach with her, stick your member ups her ass and tell her, sorry baby you’re feeling little hot tonight. I am just taking your temperature. Just to see how she would react to that ;-)

Tommyah
10-16-07, 14:29
Did my usually. Started at the KB. Called Pink. I asked Mama if that Japanese girl was there, the one that called in sick 2 week ago. Mama said she's available. Got there, went straight to the room. In comes a girl, cute.

Then it hits me, she looks so familiar. I asked her name, it's Angie.

I did her twice before. The 2nd time, I picked her, I had forgotton I was with her before and only realized it after we were in the room. Now, this is the 3rd
time. Don't get me wrong, Angie is O.K. I just want to do a different girl each time I go for ORT. The Japanese Girl wasn't there. Mama said she's Korean, but, she has that Japanese look.

Had to do a stand-up shower, no TS. TS room broken....for 3 weeks? Sounds like an excuse not to give TS's.

There was a tall Korean Girl there that night. I thought it was Apple.

She looked like a Michelle Wie with her hair up Prom Style. Her name was Princess. Really sexy looking girl. FYI

Sdrom
10-16-07, 15:19
Oh nooo, I feel like I opened up a paranoia discussion. Pinhole cameras? WTF! Damn, what else? Perhaps listening devices, infra red heat detectors, GPS implants or perhaps even some satellite imagery to track every movement of all of us mongers. I am no security expert, but I wouldn’t think that pinhole cameras wouldn’t need mirrors, if someone would want to place them at AMP. I suppose, because of its size, you could place it anywhere on the wall or the ceiling and in the semi dark room it is hard to see it no matter where it is. Perhaps I should give up this mongering stuff all together and use the money to buy me a piece of land and start my new hobby of growing organic herbs. And I don’t mean something you could smoke, inhale or inject. Just plain old food additives.Several places I've been to you could hear what was going on in the other rooms.

Not by listening through the walls, but the sound travelled through the vents.

Mravcapo69
10-16-07, 18:54
From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a “laundry list” of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat?

S Hunter
10-16-07, 21:28
No man, she was just making sure you were not LE and checking if you were wired in any way, or anywhere. Sure they will tell you whatever you want to hear, like “it’s a prostate massage.” I guess one of these days you should try similar approach with her, stick your member ups her ass and tell her, sorry baby you’re feeling little hot tonight. I am just taking your temperature. Just to see how she would react to that ;-)


I had a provider ask me if I wanted her to fuck me in the ass. I said excuse me...she wanted to stick a finger or two up my butt. I told her no, but do you want ME to fuck YOU in the ass. She didn't reply to that.

Hinode
10-17-07, 03:51
From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a “laundry list” of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat?

I aint never seen a haole girl YET in any AMP I been in. My "S.O." now is a "type" of haole. But I dont consider her one. She is just plain badass. S'why I do her...blissful GFE, every time. BBBJTCIP every time.

Life is good.

Homerun Hinode :cool:

Belut Boy
10-17-07, 10:25
There was a tall Korean Girl there that night. I thought it was Apple.

She looked like a Michelle Wie with her hair up Prom Style. Her name was Princess. Really sexy looking girl. FYI
The way Wie is playing, she might end up working there in a few years.

Da Game
10-17-07, 18:33
The way Wie is playing, she might end up working there in a few years.BB,

That is a good one!

Slypher
10-18-07, 02:33
From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a “laundry list” of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat?I had one like that. She was hot so I decided to do her anyway. I just never went back. Actually. I posted about it several pages back. She kept a kleenex around the base of the condom and I got freaked out cause I thought "SHit. What if she has Herpes and was 'trying' to protect me. Oh good god. "

And Hinode. You lucky SOB. I envy you. I just want you to know that.

Makana9
10-18-07, 03:05
I aint never seen a haole girl YET in any AMP I been in. My "S.O." now is a "type" of haole. But I dont consider her one. She is just plain badass. S'why I do her...blissful GFE, every time. BBBJTCIP every time.

Life is good.

Homerun Hinode :cool:I had to give you the double high 5 on that one.

Joe Som
10-18-07, 06:25
Had Ivy @ Nirvana. PSE YMMV. L8 A10 S10. Saw another girl as I was leaving. Nice. Maybe next time.

Sdrom
10-18-07, 22:58
From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a "laundry list" of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat? Ahhh memories.

One 'Haole' I had, didn't know how to massage. She literally walked all over me. After my cry of pain, she admitted she didn't know how to massage. So I had her lie down and gave her some tips and gave her a nice (or so she said) rubdown and light massage.

Another 'Haole' I had, I mentioned this in another thread. Was one where we ended up talking for 45 mins or so. Then she looked at the clock and was shocked that we didn't get to the. Err. Usual stuff. I said no prob, I was here to relax and I was relaxing with a nice person. Paid for FS because the conversation was totally worth it.

Although I did have some Haole's that thought that forplay was them getting naked. Or they convinced me that they were doing me a favor and should pay accordingly.

So. Like everything else. YMMV.

Nightknight
10-18-07, 23:09
I am sure that you have all noticed that Smile Spa currently has a $20 off coupon in the Pennysaver good until the end of the month. They have also been bringing in new girls from places such as California. One girl told me a few weeks back that they are placing adds in some ethnic publication(s) to recruit girls. They have at least 10 women currently working there. I know that I saw a whole bunch of women sitting on the sofa the last time I was there. They also put mirrors in their hallways a few months ago which makes the place look more spacious (Hidden spy cameras? ...just kidding.) A month ago, there was one girl of Italian ancestry working there. I don't know if she is still there or not. Most of the other girls are Asian (i.e. Vietnamese and who knows what else). A number of the girls have only been there for a month or two.

In spite of all of these incentives (i.e. the discount and the selection), the place hasn't seemed particularly crowded when I have visited there. You guys may want to check it out. Has anyone else been there of late?

Incidentally, if any of you ladies from Smile Spa (or any other Spa) are reading this, make sure that you provide good service if you want to have repeat business. Otherwise you will find yourself spending most of your day just sitting on the sofas. If you want us to explain what good service is, just ask. All it takes is a few simple things and guy will be much more likely to come back to see you again.

Kapalua
10-18-07, 23:12
Recently I visited the same masseuse visited earlier this month by Asian975. She has a small ad ("Japanese Style Massage") in the Honolulu Advertiser classified section, and provides her telephone number in the ad. She works in her apartment, located on the fourth floor of the relatively new building at 215 North King Street, which is slightly Ewa of the River Street intersection and across from the makai side of Aala Park. The location is especially convenient for customers who work or live downtown. When you call for an appointment, she will tell you the apartment number. If you need to wash before or after the massage, there is a clean bathroom with a shower.

As posted by Asian975, this masseuse is "old" (I would estimate in her fifties) and neither particularly attractive nor unattractive for her age. I agree with Asian975 that the massage "was ok" and that "she does ball massage too." Just like Asian975, I paid $60 for the massage and $40 for a hand job. However, unlike Asian975, I did not receive a bj. Although I asked two times if anything beyond the hand job was available, she didn't offer any bj. Yet, she did permit touching of her body, including her breasts. In my experience she had a nice personality, was quite friendly, and provided a good hand job. However, it doesn't seem that a bj is automatically available for every customer.

Nightknight
10-18-07, 23:27
Had Ivy @ Nirvana. PSE YMMV. L8 A10 S10. Saw another girl as I was leaving. Nice. Maybe next time.
If this is the same woman that I called Poison Ivy over a year ago, then good for her--She has moved into the Ivy League. Maybe she has finally gotten her act together and has learned how to provide great service. Whether it is the same woman or not, it goes to prove a point. When you provide great service, you benefit by sometimes getting repeat business. You also generate new business via word of mouth.

Ladies, if your service is bad or mediocre, and we hear about it, we will avoid you. You aren't worth our time or hard-earned money. On the other hand, if we hear that you are going out of your way to provide excellent service (i.e. a GFE or a PSE or both), then we are more likely to pay you a visit. Even when business is slow, the best providers will still have customers.

Smily75
10-19-07, 00:27
I am sure that you have all noticed that Smile Spa currently has a $20 off coupon in the Pennysaver good until the end of the month. They have also been bringing in new girls from places such as California. One girl told me a few weeks back that they are placing adds in some ethnic publication(s) to recruit girls. They have at least 10 women currently working there. I know that I saw a whole bunch of women sitting on the sofa the last time I was there. They also put mirrors in their hallways a few months ago which makes the place look more spacious (Hidden spy cameras? ...just kidding.) A month ago, there was one girl of Italian ancestry working there. I don't know if she is still there or not. Most of the other girls are Asian (i.e. Vietnamese and who knows what else). A number of the girls have only been there for a month or two.

In spite of all of these incentives (i.e. the discount and the selection), the place hasn't seemed particularly crowded when I have visited there. You guys may want to check it out. Has anyone else been there of late?

Incidentally, if any of you ladies from Smile Spa (or any other Spa) are reading this, make sure that you provide good service if you want to have repeat business. Otherwise you will find yourself spending most of your day just sitting on the sofas. If you want us to explain what good service is, just ask. All it takes is a few simple things and guy will be much more likely to come back to see you again.I was there in early August and it wasnt bussy then also, but it was a day visit. There were 3-4 girls at the time. The mama looked hotter then most of the girls but acording to the girl I was with most of the providers where out shopping. I remember after the shower even my provider got lost because of the mirrors.

Lkjhgf
10-19-07, 02:19
Can any one rate princess at Pink that look like Michelle Wie?

Thanks thanks for the info Tommy.

Lkjhgf
10-19-07, 02:28
Seen a Ivy long ago was'nt very good as I recall, seen this new Ivy 8, 9, 9

Hope this help.

Hinode
10-19-07, 04:21
And Hinode. You lucky SOB. I envy you. I just want you to know that.

Slypher, Big Keoni (Keone) (sp),

Thanks for the compliments guys; you're both right; I am very lucky, and like most cool local guys, no need fo brag. I been through dry spells at times; but yeah, for the past 12 YEARS I'll say I've been a _VERY_ lucky man; I don't need Viagra, or none of that stuff (yet), I consider myself handsome; if 10 out of 10 providers say I have a decent sized/nice cock, I'll believe that; simply because all my EX's and current S.O. all say the same damn thing; I get really nice chicks, for long durations at a time; (Years) And I get to experience sensual GFE like I'm sure every guy wants to go home to one girl like that.

In the short year and a half since I stumbled upon this site/forum, the O.G.s have shown me the way as far as learning from the braddahs on who to avoid, who gives great service, etc.

I've learned real quick (too many times in drunken states) that there is NO GFE at AMPs, KBs, VBs, etc.

YMMV. I speak from my OWN personal experience.

So it's not about getting my heart broken when I wanna DFK, cuddle, what not; it's all business for the girls.

I understand 100% now.

That's my S.O.'s job. NOT a provider.

I think braddah Primal needs said it best once. If I'm crediting the wrong braddah, then I apologize; "LH should have a revolving door, God bless the women there!" Or something to that effect. Point is, even after a GREAT BBBJCIM from either Kyong, Sunny, or Choi, it's wham-bam-thank-you-sir-bye-bye-out-the-side-door. No kissing, No DFK, No hugging, No cuddling, No waiting around, lying down holding hands shit. Cya! Next!

I *HUMBLY* appreciate the compliments.

Humble Hinode :cool:

Primal Needs
10-19-07, 04:59
I think braddah Primal needs said it best once. If I'm crediting the wrong braddah, then I apologize; "LH should have a revolving door, God bless the women there!" Or something to that effect. Point is, even after a GREAT BBBJCIM from either Kyong, Sunny, or Choi, it's wham-bam-thank-you-sir-bye-bye-out-the-side-door. No kissing, No DFK, No hugging, No cuddling, No waiting around, lying down holding hands shit. Cya! Next!

I *HUMBLY* appreciate the compliments.

Humble Hinode :cool:

I think that was me. The revolving door part sounds familiar. I also call LH the McDonald's of KBs. It's not the best quality out there, but it's cheap and you know what you're going to get, because the same thing has been served there a gazillion times. "I'll have a number one, with Kyong, and a medium Heineken."

And congrats. Glad to hear that someone's having fun out there with their SO. Not going to Thailand was a bummer, but not so bad when you think about what you have at home, huh? You'll get there one day, and we'll be waiting for your detailed and entertaining reports.

Primal Needs

Bronze Beast
10-19-07, 05:32
Personally, and as always YMMV, even recently from the latest edition of providers at this place I have consistently still not received decent service. In fact, it's a complete waste for me IMHO to even report anything specific from Smile Spa any more. Case-in-point today after work I passed by to give it another shot and check out the new stock. Instead I was greeted with rudely by the average looking local type who questioned me like they were LE. WTF. No wonder the noob providers who start out there eventually leave as quickly as they can and relocate to another AMP. Anyway, most of you whom are regulars are familiar with my straight forward reports. The level of service everywhere is more suspect than last year. I wish you well when you visit Smile Spa and hopefully after Smile Spa girls read this and other reports hopefully most of the girls will start providing better service for our hard-earned days income or weeks and months savings for others.


I am sure that you have all noticed that Smile Spa currently has a $20 off coupon in the Pennysaver good until the end of the month. They have also been bringing in new girls from places such as California. One girl told me a few weeks back that they are placing adds in some ethnic publication(s) to recruit girls. They have at least 10 women currently working there. I know that I saw a whole bunch of women sitting on the sofa the last time I was there. They also put mirrors in their hallways a few months ago which makes the place look more spacious (Hidden spy cameras? ...just kidding.) A month ago, there was one girl of Italian ancestry working there. I don't know if she is still there or not. Most of the other girls are Asian (i.e. Vietnamese and who knows what else). A number of the girls have only been there for a month or two.

In spite of all of these incentives (i.e. the discount and the selection), the place hasn't seemed particularly crowded when I have visited there. You guys may want to check it out. Has anyone else been there of late?

Incidentally, if any of you ladies from Smile Spa (or any other Spa) are reading this, make sure that you provide good service if you want to have repeat business. Otherwise you will find yourself spending most of your day just sitting on the sofas. If you want us to explain what good service is, just ask. All it takes is a few simple things and guy will be much more likely to come back to see you again.

Sdrom
10-19-07, 16:05
I've learned real quick (too many times in drunken states) that there is NO GFE at AMPs, KBs, VBs, etc.

YMMV. I speak from my OWN personal experience.

So it's not about getting my heart broken when I wanna DFK, cuddle, what not; it's all business for the girls.

I understand 100% now.

That's my S.O.'s job. NOT a provider.

I think braddah Primal needs said it best once. If I'm crediting the wrong braddah, then I apologize; "LH should have a revolving door, God bless the women there!" Or something to that effect. Point is, even after a GREAT BBBJCIM from either Kyong, Sunny, or Choi, it's wham-bam-thank-you-sir-bye-bye-out-the-side-door. No kissing, No DFK, No hugging, No cuddling, No waiting around, lying down holding hands shit. Cya! Next!

I *HUMBLY* appreciate the compliments.

Humble Hinode :cool:While I would add my compliment to your luck (and curse my own :p) I must also agree that YMMV. I've had hugging, cuddling, kissing (no DFK, but French at least) and lying down just savoring each other's presence. and I found that I get those things if I do treat the providers like people with feelings. Granted not right away, but usually after I become one of their 'regulars'.

Youngho
10-19-07, 19:50
I started going to VIP, and it was great. I go there often, but now I'm curious about all the other AMP's. Please help me find some good ones, and please refer the women who do BBBJ's too.

Thanks

Secretagnt
10-20-07, 02:11
Hey guys,

New here. Was just wondering if anyone has any info on the blonde at VIPs with the big breasts. Id appreciate your input!

Thanks

Kauai Guy #1
10-20-07, 04:26
I started going to VIP, and it was great. I go there often, but now I'm curious about all the other AMP's. Please help me find some good ones, and please refer the women who do BBBJ's too.

ThanksYou go to VIP often, yet you've never posted any reviews or anything else before? and now you expect us to reveal the hidden gems? Help us all out, give us some info on VIP, do some legwork and toftt at another amp, and RTFF.

Mahalo

Slypher
10-20-07, 09:55
I think a quick RTFF is in order for Youngho and Secretagnt. Youngho more than Secret, but the point still stands.

You both have a single post under your belt, which means you're new here. That's all well and good, but I mean, both topics have been covered in this thread. The info might be out of date, but really, if you go down to VIP you can see who's got big tits and if you just browse through 5 or 6 pages, you'll see a couple of other AMPs that have decent providers.

On top of that. I don't trust either of you. Now. It may just be that I'm drunk while typing this. But single post question askers tend to feel like LE. I admit that I started with a single question. But at the same time, I had read the forums and asked questions about specific people in specific places.

Long story short. RTFF, go out and experience the world. Report back to us. Then we'll be more helpful.

Tommyah
10-20-07, 11:29
I think you're talking about Ling Ling from Georgia.

Tall, slim, got her da kindas about year ago?

She was natural when I was with her. Looks too big now.

Fun girl, great personality.

TwistedBrother
10-20-07, 11:31
I've also had GFE at lots of AMPs ... Not in Hawaii yet, but ...

But yeah, it certainly wasn't anything I got right away. Usually multiple visits and lots of charm, plus some luck.

If I had to quantify it, I guess I'd say maybe 30 percent of girls are potential GFEs with some work. But certainly that could vary by region. The majority of my experiences, but not all, were in MI and GA


While I would add my compliment to your luck (and curse my own :p) I must also agree that YMMV. I've had hugging, cuddling, kissing (no DFK, but French at least) and lying down just savoring each other's presence. and I found that I get those things if I do treat the providers like people with feelings. Granted not right away, but usually after I become one of their 'regulars'.

Oysterogo
10-20-07, 14:30
Think the best GFE I had with an amp girl was a few years ago with Coco from Smile Spa. After becoming one of her regulars, always had good service with her. Could do any position with her, even would let you do anal for a bigger tip. Lotsa kissing and caressing. Would lay next to me after and talk and cuddle and eventually fall asleep...lol. Always had the knock at the door. And one thing you never see anymore, was that she always helped me get dress, even putting on my socks and shoes and tying them too. Then upon leaving a hug and kiss. :)

Lkjhgf
10-20-07, 14:46
You go to VIP often, yet you've never posted any reviews or anything else before? and now you expect us to reveal the hidden gems? Help us all out, give us some info on VIP, do some legwork and toftt at another amp, and RTFF.

MahaloKauai,

You're right, young may be the LE.

Tommyah
10-20-07, 15:18
Think the best GFE I had with an amp girl was a few years ago with Coco from Smile Spa.Coco, use to be at Pink? If that's her, Yea, she's fun. Gave me her #, never called. She use to wear black often.

Sdrom
10-20-07, 15:53
Think the best GFE I had with an amp girl was a few years ago with Coco from Smile Spa. After becoming one of her regulars, always had good service with her. Could do any position with her, even would let you do anal for a bigger tip. Lotsa kissing and caressing. Would lay next to me after and talk and cuddle and eventually fall asleep...lol. Always had the knock at the door. And one thing you never see anymore, was that she always helped me get dress, even putting on my socks and shoes and tying them too. Then upon leaving a hug and kiss. :)No anal. But yea, the cuddling, and falling asleep. (Pinky. I miss you.) and yes, there are AMPs that help you get dressed.

Lcl Asian
10-20-07, 16:07
Got a massage from CoCo @ Si Si's place the other week. Older chinese women. Decent massage for about 45 mins. Nice slow HJ to finish. Pd .5 for massage and .4 for tip. Allowed me to rub her butt but not her breasts.

I don't believe she is the same person as Jenny. Would not repeat. Will try others.

L=5
A=8
S=8

Secretagnt
10-20-07, 17:17
First of all. How would I post more than 1 msg at a time since I'm new. You can trust me or not, but you need to give me a chance before you decide to not trust. Now, on with the info. So after I posted lastnight my friends and I ended up going to VIPs. Nice place, not really all that shady, and you don't really need to worry about feeling "shame" to go there, since its in the back of the samsung parking lot.

It was about 3am when we got there. There were 3 of us, but one of my friends and I decided not to go it. The 3rd guy was having a special night, so he went it. I'll come back to his report in a bit.

As the 2 of us stood outside, a group of 5 mil guys walked in. And in about 15 mins, they all walked out. The were mentioning that they all got turnred down by the mamasans. Then, a little bit after that, about 4 guys.- local and Filipino , went in. In this case they were walking out in like 5 mins, and one of them, a fat Filipino guy was obviously upset, since he was shouting something about comming here all the way from hilo, and "I hope they get raided". Now back to my friend

He said he went in, chose a hot asian girl. Went into the room, and she went right to it. Very little/no foreplay, etc. Rate was 120. Ended up with 170 total (50 tip). I asked if there were no more girls, since all the guys got turned away. He said there were tons. So I'm thinking they got turned away cause they were drunk or something. I do have another friend who went there 2x in the past, and he said both times the girls were hot, and experience was good, but real quick.

I'm always at the bar next to VIPs (tsunamis), and actually have befriended some of the mamasans and girls. They all seem cool. I asked about the blonde girl with big tits cause I used to see her alot, but havent in a while.

Last year, we went to the AMP on ward upstairs. I would not reccomend. Girls were not hot. If you like super FOB asians, then maybe. But too aggressive and just not for me. Thats the only places I've been, but of those 2, and based on what I hear, VIPs is the best.

Hope this is helpful

Lcl Asian
10-20-07, 19:29
Anyone got info on Yuki from Tokyo? Interested in checking her out. Does she give extras?

Member #3973
10-20-07, 22:21
I have had GFE like service (DFK, BBBJ, 2 pops) on a first visit only a few times.
Usually it takes a couple of visits to get the feeling that they are truly
happy to see you, lets you stay longer than the hour, cuddling after the
fun, talking story, showering with you etc. And ofcourse, some will never
give you GFEs, in particular if they have BFs.

The key is to treat them nicely and with respect, and most will return
the favor and give you a better experience than just a paid service.


..

Aaron Colt
10-21-07, 01:07
Hey guys,

New here. Was just wondering if anyone has any info on the blonde at VIPs with the big breasts. Id appreciate your input!

Thanks

I agree with Tommy.

I saw her when she first started out in the business. A very fun girl, however, if she sees you too often she'll get very bored with you but for a new client I definitely recommend.

Aaron Colt
10-21-07, 01:08
I started going to VIP, and it was great. I go there often, but now I'm curious about all the other AMP's. Please help me find some good ones, and please refer the women who do BBBJ's too.

Thanks

I saw a couple on craigslist that offer bbbj's, Anna and Vicki but they got pimps and both girls are a little sketchy.

Makana9
10-21-07, 02:58
You go to VIP often, yet you've never posted any reviews or anything else before? and now you expect us to reveal the hidden gems? Help us all out, give us some info on VIP, do some legwork and toftt at another amp, and RTFF.

MahaloSecond that motion.

Makana9
10-21-07, 03:00
I think that was me. The revolving door part sounds familiar. I also call LH the McDonald's of KBs. It's not the best quality out there, but it's cheap and you know what you're going to get, because the same thing has been served there a gazillion times. "I'll have a number one, with Kyong, and a medium Heineken."

And congrats. Glad to hear that someone's having fun out there with their SO. Not going to Thailand was a bummer, but not so bad when you think about what you have at home, huh? You'll get there one day, and we'll be waiting for your detailed and entertaining reports.

Primal NeedsPN said. We all know the menu, and for me was I'll get the #1 & if can supersize it, ok Kyong. Oh yeah, corona fo me.

Oh yeah, Hinode. You give'um. You lucky guy, hold on tight.

Makana9
10-21-07, 03:05
While I would add my compliment to your luck (and curse my own :p) I must also agree that YMMV. I've had hugging, cuddling, kissing (no DFK, but French at least) and lying down just savoring each other's presence. and I found that I get those things if I do treat the providers like people with feelings. Granted not right away, but usually after I become one of their 'regulars'.The ole timers remembah, flash the benjis, they would almost run each other ova to get to ya. Magazine Girl as the others, the ole wild wild Ala Moana Blvd. Or Kapiolani, or Kalihi. The crazy thing, is my dad & his boys from Sand isle job site was the ones that we use to catch at the KBs or VBs. Nutz.

Only when you become one reggie, you get the LFK, some french, she grab your hand and slide by her kitty kat. Only then, she know, you one of her PT'ers.

Enjoy

Makana9
10-21-07, 03:13
I saw a couple on craigslist that offer BBBJ's, Anna and Vicki but they got pimps and both girls are a little sketchy. A friend of mines saw Anna a month or so ago (but not when she was r'pn at VG). Hope I get this right, BBW, L-6. 5 P-5 S-5 or 6, and he would not go back, but he needed a fix and his reg. At PT was not there, and he wasn't in the mood for Aunty or Grannie. LOL

Best I can give ya, and yeah. The stuff I heard that they got pimps, and small kine sketch mastics.

Be safe gang.

Makana9
10-21-07, 03:25
Had some good ones in the past who moved on or actually retired. Full GFE, DFK, the only part was they so tired from work'n they would fall asleep next to ya, and didn't have the b'zzz to wake them up

Jade, Chanel, & Lisa K. SW Longs this was 2-3yrs. Ago

Lori. Short BBW, but was a banger, who if you could make her multi O, she would call you up when her kitty was a itchin. Really, she lives in Seattle now

AMPs. Ange, jennie, kari back a few yrs. And yes ange still around, but hook up with her at her/your place.

Present. Sunny fr. Rose, then Gingers, now at Kings. But I have seen her since 2000 I miss Pinky. She was a very good gfe. No BS, have no clue where she is since her blowup with MS.

Cindy who was at the old VIP, then PT, but since moved to SF. She make more $$$ up there with all the white meat. Good gfe, spinner

If you find um, get their cell. Treat them good, and it will recipricate, no BS.

Kauai Guy #1
10-21-07, 06:24
I agree with Tommy.

I saw her when she first started out in the business. A very fun girl, however, if she sees you too often she'll get very bored with you but for a new client I definitely recommend.I wonder what constitutes "too often"? I've seen her a handful of times and she's never let me down.

Anybody tried the "local" girls at VIP? I've seen a couple beauties there but never got a chance to try. They're usually busy when I get in, but I see them when I'm leaving.

Tommyah
10-21-07, 13:25
Where is Pinky?

Small cute girl, tight, slim body. Cali girl.

Did her alot.

One time I went to Pink with a friend after drinking.

2 guys doing Jan-Ken-Po in Pink for who going do her first.

I lost!

Lkjhgf
10-21-07, 14:38
Can any one rate Princess at Pink?

Thanks

Aaron Colt
10-21-07, 15:25
I wonder what constitutes "too often"? I've seen her a handful of times and she's never let me down.

Anybody tried the "local" girls at VIP? I've seen a couple beauties there but never got a chance to try. They're usually busy when I get in, but I see them when I'm leaving.

I don't know if there's an exact number to "too often" but I know a couple of mongers shared similar experiences on another forum. I saw her alot more than just a handful. She's a great girl, she just got tired of me.

Ryh135
10-22-07, 05:44
I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.

When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.

After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.

Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.

I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.

Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.

Slypher
10-22-07, 06:11
First of all. How would I post more than 1 msg at a time since I'm new. You can trust me or not, but you need to give me a chance before you decide to not trust. Now, on with the info. So after I posted lastnight my friends and I ended up going to VIPs. Nice place, not really all that shady, and you don't really need to worry about feeling "shame" to go there, since its in the back of the samsung parking lot.

It was about 3am when we got there. There were 3 of us, but one of my friends and I decided not to go it. The 3rd guy was having a special night, so he went it. I'll come back to his report in a bit.

As the 2 of us stood outside, a group of 5 mil guys walked in. And in about 15 mins, they all walked out. The were mentioning that they all got turnred down by the mamasans. Then, a little bit after that, about 4 guys.- local and Filipino , went in. In this case they were walking out in like 5 mins, and one of them, a fat Filipino guy was obviously upset, since he was shouting something about comming here all the way from hilo, and "I hope they get raided". Now back to my friend

He said he went in, chose a hot asian girl. Went into the room, and she went right to it. Very little/no foreplay, etc. Rate was 120. Ended up with 170 total (50 tip). I asked if there were no more girls, since all the guys got turned away. He said there were tons. So I'm thinking they got turned away cause they were drunk or something. I do have another friend who went there 2x in the past, and he said both times the girls were hot, and experience was good, but real quick.

I'm always at the bar next to VIPs (tsunamis), and actually have befriended some of the mamasans and girls. They all seem cool. I asked about the blonde girl with big tits cause I used to see her alot, but havent in a while.

Last year, we went to the AMP on ward upstairs. I would not reccomend. Girls were not hot. If you like super FOB asians, then maybe. But too aggressive and just not for me. Thats the only places I've been, but of those 2, and based on what I hear, VIPs is the best.

Hope this is helpfulInteresting Report. I'll keep this info in mind the next time I have cash.

But just on the issue of trust on this forum, generally speaking you have to earn your trust, you can't waltz in and expect everyone to think you're one of us. That's how people get busted. Anyhow, you've made some progress, go have an experience to share with us and the doors will open, I assure you.

Tommyah
10-22-07, 13:13
Started my usual. KB drinking. I was the only one in the bar. WHAT HAPPEN LAST NIGHT? No drinkers.

Started at Smile Spa, for the $20. 00 discount and many girls that were suppose to be there.

Went upstairs and waited. Young Mamasan came, Thai girl, sexy lookin'.

Their Karaoke room was empty. She said no Koreans or Japanese girls, only local. I didn' see anygirls. I even ask Mama if she would go with me. "NO! "

Left SS and called Crystal H. For T. T not working till Tuesday. FYI

Went to Pine Tree, Mama gave me Jun, tall, slim (Tall is 5'6" for me, )

Jun is pretty, really sweet girl. Not to be confused with June from VIP, small, cute. When I was leaving, I saw another Korean girl doing side lateral raises in thre front room. She had bricks. I asked PT Mama who she was and was discribing her. Mama said she don't remember. Strange? She had golden brown hair, about 5', cute.

Anyone know who this fitness girl was?

Tiantain
10-22-07, 15:24
I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.

When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.

After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.

Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.

I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.

Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.

Same thing happened to me at Sophia's on Young street several year's ago. I had this young Viet. girl, when I went to paying her I noticed a 20 missing, I didn't say anything to her, I gave her $.20 and left. I never returned after that.

Kapalua
10-22-07, 18:39
I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.
Sorry to hear about the theft. In my opinion it's a good policy for a customer to take his wallet with him when going to the shower room in an unfamiliar AMP. A dry place can be found for the wallet during the shower.

Tommyah
10-22-07, 20:10
Started at the KB last night. It was empty, the one guy at the bar with me left. What happen? Bartendress said it was the slowest weekend ever.

Started my rounds at Smile Spa for the $20. 00 discount. The Karaoke room was empty! The young mamasan said she had 1 local girl. Mama was Thai, young and sexy looking. Asked what about her. She said "no! "

Called Crystal H. For T. Mama said T comes back Tuesday.

Went to Pine T. Mama gave me Jun. Pretty, about 5'6"? Slim. Sweet girl.

Not to be confused with June from VIP, Small and Cute.

After the TS, I saw a Small Cute Korean Girl doing side lateral raises in the front room. She had bricks! , . Sexy and lean.

On the way out, I asked Mamasan who was the girl excercising in the front room. She said she doesn't remember. She had long goldenbrown hair.

Any members know who she was?

Lip Licker
10-22-07, 20:54
Sorry to hear about your bad experience new guy. This is yet another reason why one should RTFF and heed the advice of those more seasoned. It helps a lot to read threads for other cities that have far more dangers and ROBs. Besides taking into the AMP only what you need, I would also suggest(as I have before) not taking your regular wallet. I keep one that only has the cash and cards without vital information. I can't confirm but I think one of my credit cards was compromised at an AMP. I only think this because some of the fraudulent charges were coming from Korea. I never found money missing that I know of but I still take certain precautions. For example, I place my belongings in a pocket of my pants, then roll the pants up and pile my other clothes neatly on top. This helps to dissuade someone from looking through the clothes as they would have to unroll the pants and re-arrange everything as it was(more effort and more time increase the chance of them getting caught).

Tried to go into VIP the other night but all the girls were busy. That place seems to be rocking all the time. Ended up at CS for a very unmemorable experience. I don't even recall the girl's name. She seemed Korean, a few extra pounds, pretty face(about a 7) but she didn't give a massage after the TS, just went straight at it. The mama said that most of the girls were on vacation. The other two choices at the time were old or ugly. Damn the little head.

Makana9
10-23-07, 02:09
Sorry to hear about your bad experience new guy. This is yet another reason why one should RTFF and heed the advice of those more seasoned. It helps a lot to read threads for other cities that have far more dangers and ROBs. Besides taking into the AMP only what you need, I would also suggest(as I have before) not taking your regular wallet. I keep one that only has the cash and cards without vital information. I can't confirm but I think one of my credit cards was compromised at an AMP. I only think this because some of the fraudulent charges were coming from Korea. I never found money missing that I know of but I still take certain precautions. For example, I place my belongings in a pocket of my pants, then roll the pants up and pile my other clothes neatly on top. This helps to dissuade someone from looking through the clothes as they would have to unroll the pants and re-arrange everything as it was(more effort and more time increase the chance of them getting caught).

Tried to go into VIP the other night but all the girls were busy. That place seems to be rocking all the time. Ended up at CS for a very unmemorable experience. I don't even recall the girl's name. She seemed Korean, a few extra pounds, pretty face(about a 7) but she didn't give a massage after the TS, just went straight at it. The mama said that most of the girls were on vacation. The other two choices at the time were old or ugly. Damn the little head.Hard for get ripz like that.

Had one Viet do the same thing to me at Sophia (back about 2002 I think), learned from spring into action time, use to lv. $$$ in 2 diff pockets, one with the house $$$, and the other with the tipz. Exact change only.

There are times I carry xtra $$$, but lv. That folded in shirt collar. All clothes neatly folded so can always tell if it has been touched. I do take extra precautions when I am new to the place, but it goes both ways I guess.

More hard for me now since I cut my hair short short, & look totally like VICE now. Oh well.

Crazy Asian 02
10-23-07, 02:26
Went to Pink a few nights ago, because had some extra money. I know I should have remembered her name, but I don't. It was a Korean girl, she was in her mid 30's. Took a shower by myself, and got down to buissness. Changed positions a few times. The damage was $$. I would not recommend her.

L=6
A=4
S=6

Well sorry about not remembering her name. If I do go somewhere else, I will remember her name.

C Man
10-23-07, 02:37
What is the lowdown with Erlinda? I went to see her today and she is now nothing at all like the person who used to work at IM a couple of years ago. I was her regular customer at IM and now that she is where she is, the "good old days" are long gone and as the way it looks they are never coming back!?! Please tell me that this isn't so otherwise this marks a sad day in the history of mongering.

Belut Boy
10-23-07, 03:13
After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.

That sucks. Fortunately, you learn from your mistakes. Unfortunately, it's costly. Smile Spa used to be so good. Girls and service have gone down drastically since they opened. I personally haven't been there since my car got broken into in their lot 2 years ago.

Ryh135
10-23-07, 03:21
This is yet another reason why one should RTFF and heed the advice of those more seasoned. It helps a lot to read threads for other cities that have far more dangers and ROBs. Besides taking into the AMP only what you need, I would also suggest(as I have before) not taking your regular wallet. I keep one that only has the cash and cards without vital information. I've been lurking the Hawaii boards for a while and think there was only one post that said money was taken from his wallet. I tried to look for it to see if it happened at Smile so I could kick myself in the butt, but I couldn't find it. I kicked myself in the butt anyway.

I did bring a "second" wallet in which had an old driver's license and some other stuff to make it look like my regular wallet, so I guess it could have been worse if I had my regular wallet and a credit card was also taken.

Anyway, hindsight is 20/20. Live and learn. And all the other cliche. As Kapalua suggested, I'll bring my wallet with me to the shower from now on.

Mravcapo69
10-23-07, 03:30
I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.

When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.

After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.

Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.

I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.

Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.Hey dude. Sorry to hear you’ve got robbed. All I can say is that any business sex related you will not find the most trusting and moral people there. Of course I am only generally speaking, and not trying to say that all the providers are dishonest. Many of them are nice ladies and work hard for their money, but it’s the nature of the beast and you will come across all kinds of addictions and reasons behind the curtain to get to try to steal if chance opens up. I can only speak for myself, since I am not a frequent hobbyist of any kind, but when I do take time to play, I try to be as careful s possible. When it comes to money, I only take what I think it should cost me inside, unless I know in advance. No ID’s no credit cards no any other information. Everything is left in the car. Sometimes I think, if I ever drop dead in one of those places, they would have hard time finding out who I am LOL. Anyway, I separate my money in small groups and divide them in different pockets. House fee in one pocket and service fee in the other. I even go as far as remembering the order of my bills in the pocket so I can leave some in them in the pocket without taking them out, if unexpected chance of bargain comes up. That’s just me. Anyway, really sorry to hear you had a bad experience, and thanks for the warning to the rest of us.

Primal Needs
10-23-07, 03:48
About getting ripped off... I can't think of any better advice than what Kapalua said about bringing your wallet into the shower with you. Every place should have a reasonably dry place to keep it. Some providers actually recommend it. I feel bad now about making a mostly negative post about Bebe at Tokyo Relaxation, because she was one of the ones who reminded me to take my wallet once.

When I first mongered, I left my important stuff in the car. I figured, I needed my driver's license and credit cards for whatever fun I was having that night before the mongering, but I didn't want to get my wallet stolen INSIDE the AMP. But, as Belut Boy said, cars get ripped off. So, my paranoia that my car would get ripped off led me to take my wallet inside the shower.

I can imagine car thieves waiting to see a guy go into an AMP, waiting long enough to know that the guy is getting serviced instead of bailing out, and then "working on" the car. You can expect that the guy will be gone for a while.

Primal Needs

Aaron Colt
10-23-07, 04:43
I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.

When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.

After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.

Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.

I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.

Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.

That sucks, live and learn. Did the local girl have a white dress on. Kinda short, thick girl with blonde highlights? I know of only two amp's she's worked at, Smile and an amp in the back seat betty's parking lot, forgot the name and no longer around. She's bad news.

If you have to take your wallet, take a zip lock bag so it doesnt get wet in the shower or leave it in a well hidden place in your car. Otherwise only carry what your willing to pay and place it in several pockets similar to what others have reported.

Tommyah
10-23-07, 13:20
Seems this site is being monitored by LE now. Our threads are not only providing information to members about our experiences and recomendations, but, providing LE with names of the girls and the places they work. I feel we bring the girls and their AMPs more harm while exchanging information on where so and so is or where she's working now and what we do with her.

Most of the girls are sweet and are just everyday people who do a "job" that is socially unaccepted (by law).

I'd like to continue seeing these beautiful girls, so I don't think I will add fuel to the fire that might burn down the AMPs.

Been fun reading all the threads from everyone.

For all you LE guys: Kinda remember, some of us just can't get a girlfriend and have needs just like you. You might have a girlfriend or be married, so your sex life is O. K. But us, is that toughshit 'cause we just "don't got what it takes" to get a girlfriend? We can't find love, we can't pay for love, seems society can control our sex lives. I can't believe we can go to jail 'cause we just want to fuck.

Why all the fuss for such a simple biological funtion?

Mravcapo69
10-23-07, 20:47
Seems this site is being monitored by LE now. Our threads are not only providing information to members about our experiences and recomendations, but, providing LE with names of the girls and the places they work. I feel we bring the girls and their AMPs more harm while exchanging information on where so and so is or where she's working now and what we do with her.

Most of the girls are sweet and are just everyday people who do a "job" that is socially unaccepted (by law).

I'd like to continue seeing these beautiful girls, so I don't think I will add fuel to the fire that might burn down the AMPs.

Been fun reading all the threads from everyone.

For all you LE guys: Kinda remember, some of us just can't get a girlfriend and have needs just like you. You might have a girlfriend or be married, so your sex life is O. K. But us, is that toughshit 'cause we just "don't got what it takes" to get a girlfriend? We can't find love, we can't pay for love, seems society can control our sex lives. I can't believe we can go to jail 'cause we just want to fuck.

Why all the fuss for such a simple biological funtion?I’ve raised that questions once before, but no one replied to it. I suppose people got tired of replying to the same questions, and I didn’t feel like reading the entire 1200+ posts just to find out. Of course LE is reading our posts. It’s not like you need to have some special privilege to join. As much as this site is full of valuable information for those who practice this sort of activity, it’s probably even more doing us disservice because of giving up such information to those who shouldn’t be reading it. Ultimately, if they wanted (LE), I am sure they could track most of us down. They have ways and resources and you (average tax payer) are paying for it. After all, you’re getting up every morning to work your ass off up to the lunch time, so you can pay taxes so some “fat ass, spineless hypocrite politician” (general description for a member of any political party) can debate and decide on your freedoms. They are writing them down while using some business associate’s (escort) bare ass as a writing board, and they are doing it right after being done with what exactly you are looking to do and being afraid to get caught. But of course, their activity is called law making, and your’s is law breaking. The difference is that their business associated cost $1000 per hour, but who cares, it’s all coming out of the tax budget and you are paying for it. And don’t for a second think that this is not happening all over the place. It’s just not the public knowledge. But every once in a while truth comes up on the surface and few of them take it for the team and admit their “sins” so the younger ones left behind can keep playing. There are many high class escorts who admit that in their client books they have names of very prominent citizens such as doctors, lawyers, judges and various members of government officials. The fact that their books are full of such information is what makes their activity safer than ours. Just look at our former president and his cigar club right in the white house. Bye the way, I am not blaming him a bit. After all, he is just a guy like the rest of us. The only two things, in my book, that he was guilty for was his bad taste in women and getting caught. But this is truly a discussion for completely different discussion board. So I apologize to all of you if I am boring you to death with my post.
One of the best things someone said about this was comedian George Carlin who said something like “…I don’t get it. Prostitution being illegal? If fucking is legal, and selling is legal, why is fucking-selling illegal?” I find it truly ironical that you can have such arrangement with some random girl (not your significant other) and you can pay her bills, pay her rent, pay her school, take her out to the expensive restaurants, on business trips, buy her clothes, buy her cars, jewelry, buy her whatever you want and call it a gift, and it’s ok if all she does in return is fucking you when you feel like it. But if you’re fucking her and only give her cash, than you are braking the law and it’s called prostitution. No wonder all the escorts nowadays expect gifts in the envelops only. We all know those envelops aren’t big enough to put a car inside, so it’s probably some gift in a paper format. But than again, what do I know? I am just an average taxpayer. Some logic isn’t it? Go figure!

Shortsword
10-23-07, 22:59
Seems this site is being monitored by LE now. Our threads are not only providing information to members about our experiences and recomendations, but, providing LE with names of the girls and the places they work. ... But us, is that toughshit 'cause we just "don't got what it takes" to get a girlfriend? We can't find love, we can't pay for love, seems society can control our sex lives. I can't believe we can go to jail 'cause we just want to fuck.

Why all the fuss for such a simple biological funtion?Damn. Big brother is watching our dicks, not just our asses. I know this one cop who used to brag how he can pick up any chick he wants, and he even picked up some tricks in the force on how to, also. Bummer.

Ryh135
10-24-07, 02:43
Did the local girl have a white dress on. Kinda short, thick girl with blonde highlights? Yep, that's her, except I think she was wearing something pink the night I went. I'm pretty sure she's the one that stole the money from my wallet and not the girl I was with.

It's sad how one pea-brained girl can spoil it for the rest of the girls there. With someone like her, LE won't even have to do anything there because she will put the place out of business by herself.

Mravcapo69
10-24-07, 16:42
Yep, that's her, except I think she was wearing something pink the night I went. I'm pretty sure she's the one that stole the money from my wallet and not the girl I was with.

It's sad how one pea-brained girl can spoil it for the rest of the girls there. With someone like her, LE won't even have to do anything there because she will put the place out of business by herself.If that chick is a rob, than perhaps someone tell mamasan what's going on. I am sure she rather loose one girl than a whole line of clients.

Tendo
10-24-07, 22:28
Now what cop would do a thing like that? Use verbal skills (verbal judo) that are supposed to be used to diffuse a violent situation like a domestic disturbance and use it on women to make them sleep with him. That would be wrong! OR smart!

Meh, Personally I prefer paying for sex in these situations. No dissilusions of anything. Just sex. When you need it. No feelings hurt. Simple. Even would pay rather than have a one night stand. Again too easy for complications. Plus they know where you live or monger after you take them home. I know tons of gals that are messed in the head now because of their ex or some guy that they fell in love with before, who later left them or cheated on them. Now their super bitter and most of them gained weight. Real pity. And now they have a lower self image than before.

BTW I think you can buy a book on verbal judo at Borders or Barns and Noble.

Vicgoo
10-25-07, 01:15
Just look at our former president and his cigar club right in the white house. Bye the way, I am not blaming him a bit. After all, he is just a guy like the rest of us. The only two things, in my book, that he was guilty for was his bad taste in women and getting caught.[/QUOTE]I, ve argued this with many before including one time when the narrow minded asshole pissed me off I got so loud that LE got called and even they verified that I, m right on this.he and monica are both adults over 18, doesn, t matter that he, s twice her age. That, s consentual sex, nothing illegal, maybe 50 years ago but those ancient laws have been abolished in the 70, s except for a few states in the bible belt mainland

Anyway legal, illegal, whatever I, m sick and tired of this narrow minded judgemental shit. I, m not just talking about mongering. Many of things people here piss me off on are legal, once again verified by LE such as me only wanting to go out with chicks 18-30(I, m 52)going to that age groups clubs, parties (just got e mails for 2 this weekend by the way), mongering in foreign countries where it, s legal-that especially I pressured LE about and they repeated told me it, s up to the laws of the country I, m visiting and of no concern to them regardless of what some may say. Sorry to make this long but what I'm saying is, I'm going to amsterdam next month with an extra plan on top of mongering in mind-I, m going to apply to live in Holland under the Dutch-American friendship Treaty so I don't have to put up with repression and no I, m not concerned of the cold weather like everyone say I will be, I, m from Chicago a lot colder there than Europe!

S Hunter
10-25-07, 03:32
Now what cop would do a thing like that? Use verbal skills (verbal judo) that are supposed to be used to diffuse a violent situation like a domestic disturbance and use it on women to make them sleep with him. That would be wrong! OR smart!

Meh, Personally I prefer paying for sex in these situations. No dissilusions of anything. Just sex. When you need it. No feelings hurt. Simple. Even would pay rather than have a one night stand. Again too easy for complications. Plus they know where you live or monger after you take them home. I know tons of gals that are messed in the head now because of their ex or some guy that they fell in love with before, who later left them or cheated on them. Now their super bitter and most of them gained weight. Real pity. And now they have a lower self image than before.

BTW I think you can buy a book on verbal judo at Borders or Barns and Noble.



If you pick up a chick, take her back to her place, not yours. And be Frank or Ernest with her. Kimo or Jr. Boy works too.

Kim Chee Kane
10-26-07, 06:08
Recently, I had a session with Tip for 1 hr 30 minutes. It was quite sometime since I last got a massage. I went there at night and it was only her and Nina? They both looked quite nice. Anyway, we had a decent conversation throughout the session. It was legit but I felt not too bad after the session. I will probably end up trying Nina and Sophia but I like going there so far.

The damage was .90 without including tip. I will probably go back as a regular.

late.

John Ross
10-26-07, 07:05
Recently, I had a session with Tip for 1 hr 30 minutes. It was quite sometime since I last got a massage. I went there at night and it was only her and Nina? They both looked quite nice. Anyway, we had a decent conversation throughout the session. It was legit but I felt not too bad after the session. I will probably end up trying Nina and Sophia but I like going there so far.

The damage was .90 without including tip. I will probably go back as a regular.

late.
Everytime I go for the Thai massage I'm sore for a day. After that, I feel great! Just remember to drink lots of water as your body requires it.

Strong Mojo
10-26-07, 11:30
JR:

Like you, my body aches after thai massage, but feels great the next day. I usually drink a lot of water and take a pair of tylenol after the session. This usually works for me.

SM

Born Again
10-26-07, 20:16
Just wondering if anyone had any info on this provider...

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/ers/451122169.html

I also went to Siam Thai last week. Had Nina. Man she is a little hottie. Will def return. Totally great legit massage. Although she was very flirtatious.

Pokeman808
10-26-07, 23:54
Just wondering if anyone had any info on this provider...

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/ers/451122169.html

I also went to Siam Thai last week. Had Nina. Man she is a little hottie. Will def return. Totally great legit massage. Although she was very flirtatious.Paypal in advance huh.

I guess that's a creative alternative.

Gummi Bear
10-27-07, 05:44
I went there last week, and had this young Haoule girl. The service sucked, and would not repeat. L 9 A 9 S5. She was really pretty, and had a sweet body, but she did not know how to service. On a good note, DiDi is back at smile spa.

Hawaii 50
10-27-07, 18:37
Just wondering if anyone had any info on this provider...

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/ers/451122169.html

I also went to Siam Thai last week. Had Nina. Man she is a little hottie. Will def return. Totally great legit massage. Although she was very flirtatious.Here someone's review on Gezebella: Enjoy!

" She undressed me and told me to lie on my stomach, then proceeded to massage my neck, back and legs. she then ran her fingers lightly all over my back until i was twitching. she then rolled me over and i noticed a beautiful nude woman (don't even know when she undressed). she proceeded to dfk me then licked my upper body and nipples and continued south. she put the cover on and was giving me a pretty good bj but i had to stop her before i popped. i asked her to do daty first which she agreed. i love daty and spent a lot of time there until she came with some help with my fingers stroking her inside. I started with doggie then ended with mish (as i was getting a little tired) until i came. i would see this woman again if we can hookup."

PG

Tommyah
10-28-07, 13:51
I'm a felon on this site. Just like prison. Lost my name and reduced to #3924! Now, I'm the guy going to the AMP's in a Black and White Stripped clothes or florescent Orange coveralls now with #3924 on my back.

Went adventuring Friday night. Went to PT to look for that cute Korean fitness girl I saw exercising there last time. PT had about 9 girls, wow!

Choose Kristy, Asian/American, cute, petite girl. So polite, not too affectionate. She probally wasn't comfortable with me. Youth is amazing.

Kauai Guy #1
10-29-07, 03:48
I went there last week, and had this young Haoule girl. The service sucked, and would not repeat. L 9 A 9 S5. She was really pretty, and had a sweet body, but she did not know how to service. On a good note, DiDi is back at smile spa.Any chance this is the same DiDi formerly of VIP?

Joe Som
10-30-07, 06:15
I'm a felon on this site. Just like prison. Lost my name and reduced to #3924! Now, I'm the guy going to the AMP's in a Black and White Stripped clothes or florescent Orange coveralls now with #3924 on my back.

Went adventuring Friday night. Went to PT to look for that cute Korean fitness girl I saw exercising there last time. PT had about 9 girls, wow!

Choose Kristy, Asian/American, cute, petite girl. So polite, not too affectionate. She probally wasn't comfortable with me. Youth is amazing.Mina and Toy are gfe. Toy can border on pse. Yuri give good back rub, but fs can be mechanical, plus she' moody, so inconsistent service.

Born Again
10-30-07, 19:45
Paypal in advance huh.

I guess that's a creative alternative.Paypal in advance is only for outcall cabfare. I'm debating on wheteher she would be worth a shot or not incall?

Seems as though Papa Golf has a good review.

Born Again
10-30-07, 19:59
I saw this new one pop up on CL today as well.

I haven't seen it on there before? Any reviews?

Aaron Colt
10-31-07, 04:02
One evening I am going through the pennysaver massage section and dialed about 10 different massage places hoping to get a nice massage in before I headed home. Selected a lady that goes by the name of Maria, late 40's, from Big Island, face and body are already showing distinct signs of aging but overall a very pleasant person. Her place is located across from Capone's detailing service. At night, they train bjj upstairs, however, her place is on the second floor facing an old run down office. There are 4 parking stalls available and the time I went, which was after 8:00p, all the stalls were available. From the parking lot you have to go around the office building, take the stairs to the second floor and her place is on the left hand side. I was a little early so I had to wait for her a couple minutes. She was punctual to our appointment and gets right down to business with the massage. The massage will take an hour and she really presses down on the pressure points. I was sore for a couple of days after our massage. Its been reported that she played in the past but that was in the past I doubt she offers any play nowadays. She's a really cool person, even if I were a drunk schmuck I doubt i would have tried to engage in some play.

Alohashorts
10-31-07, 04:03
Made a visit recently out of curiosity. Kapalua, your description was exact: Not fugly, but not attractive. I went thinking at least bbbj, so I only brought .6 massage + .6 extra. Got the ok massage. On the turn, she was swiping the nuts a few times. Let me grab A&T which was a bonus. Asked if I wanted BJ, I figured why not shoot for the moon. Sweet talked her for FS. She asked me how much I had. I said .6....surprise-surprise, she said ok. Did the daty,mish cowgirl,and other stuff. she ended w/ bbbj. She was kinda horny that day because she let me play a little more. Slipped in a few times then she did HJ even though i was half hard. Got more bang for the buck, but probably would not return though.

Finger Licking
10-31-07, 15:27
Made a visit recently out of curiosity. Kapalua, your description was exact: Not fugly, but not attractive. I went thinking at least bbbj, so I only brought .6 massage + .6 extra. Got the ok massage. On the turn, she was swiping the nuts a few times. Let me grab A&T which was a bonus. Asked if I wanted BJ, I figured why not shoot for the moon. Sweet talked her for FS. She asked me how much I had. I said .6....surprise-surprise, she said ok. Did the daty,mish cowgirl,and other stuff. she ended w/ bbbj. She was kinda horny that day because she let me play a little more. Slipped in a few times then she did HJ even though i was half hard. Got more bang for the buck, but probably would not return though.Hey can I get her #?

Thanks!

MadCocker
11-01-07, 02:11
Lately I've been noticing quite a few places no longer offer table showers. Is this the new trend? What places still offer table showers? Does King and Ginger's offer a table shower?

Hawaii 50
11-01-07, 18:35
Made an appt w/a lady who went by the name YUKI. She said she was Japanese and sounded local so I couldn't tell if she was Japanese or Korean. Anyway, paid $ for a decent massage w/very nice BLS, CBJ & HJ finish. FS is available. She has nice rack and attractive face for her age (early 40s?). When we were finished she told me her real name was JUNKO! I remember reading favorable reviews about her in this forum. I can't believe I ran into her by accident, lol.

I can't give out her cell number but anyone interested can make an appointment through SiSi @ Century Center 258-2765. Ask for YUKI.

PapaGolf

Magnod
11-01-07, 21:01
Lately I've been noticing quite a few places no longer offer table showers. Is this the new trend? What places still offer table showers? Does King and Ginger's offer a table shower?

Tokyo Relaxation still had when I went to see Erica a couple months ago.

Alohashorts
11-01-07, 22:54
Hey can I get her #?

Thanks!


Look in 40+ folder. That's where I got it.

Bronze Beast
11-02-07, 05:26
Finally tracked down Tomato since the shop closed. In short, her business partners pulled a fast one on her and she lost the lease and a sizeable investment. By the time I got hold of her she was completely broke and on the verge of being evicted from her apartment. She has been good to many of us so I loaned her some last month to get by. There was no luck in recovering her investment, expenses, and belongings that were locked up in the shop. Apparently, one of the partners used to own the building as a proxy with actual ownership leading back to Korea. That is the gist of the story and obviously to most of you it may not matter. Even with all the stress and hardship she is still a keeper and provides great service. Tomato is back from vacation.

For the regulars who want to meet up with her send me a PM.

What I especially like about her is that she always feels tight like the first time. She has good muscle control and encourages you. I am often reminded how much her service is really GFE compared to others. YMMV.

Mish, BBBJ, CBJ, FS, BS, CDS, DT.

L: 7
A: 9
S: 9

Aznguy2000
11-02-07, 22:10
Tokyo Relaxation still had when I went to see Erica a couple months ago.Went by last weekend and they still have a table shower.

Tadhook
11-03-07, 12:15
Went by last weekend and they still have a table shower.
Also, if you like Thai girls, ask for Bebe when you go there.

Qjkl
11-03-07, 13:57
Also, if you like Thai girls, ask for Bebe when you go there.

What does Bebe look like?

Aznguy2000
11-03-07, 14:39
Also, if you like Thai girls, ask for Bebe when you go there. There was a girl with a thai accent that I saw and spoke to a little when I was on my way out. She also answered the door. She was a little thicker for my tastes.

Primal Needs
11-04-07, 03:41
There was a girl with a thai accent that I saw and spoke to a little when I was on my way out. She also answered the door. She was a little thicker for my tastes.

I haven't been there for a couple of months now, but previous to that, only Erica and Bebe worked there. That situation lasted for months, so I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't changed.

I wrote a mostly unfavorable post about her once. Chatty, and complained about how busy she was because there's only two girls. Service was OK.
That was the run-down. So, mostly unfavorable, and the thickness was NOT the problem. But I recently added, after the topic of ripped-off wallets was brought up (regarding a different AMP), that she was one of the few providers I have had that insisted that I take my wallet with me into the shower. She suggested that I make it a habit. Kudos for that part.

Primal Needs

Bronze Beast
11-04-07, 07:43
Lately I've been noticing quite a few places no longer offer table showers. Is this the new trend? What places still offer table showers? Does King and Ginger's offer a table shower?Ginger's still offers table showers.

C Kramer
11-04-07, 14:35
Went to see Tomato and had a nice time. She certainly is gfe. I'm guessing about B-size, all natural breasts which is the way I like em. Nice body.

L-7
A-10
S-9



Finally tracked down Tomato since the shop closed. In short, her business partners pulled a fast one on her and she lost the lease and a sizeable investment. By the time I got hold of her she was completely broke and on the verge of being evicted from her apartment. She has been good to many of us so I loaned her some last month to get by. There was no luck in recovering her investment, expenses, and belongings that were locked up in the shop. Apparently, one of the partners used to own the building as a proxy with actual ownership leading back to Korea. That is the gist of the story and obviously to most of you it may not matter. Even with all the stress and hardship she is still a keeper and provides great service. Tomato is back from vacation.

For the regulars who want to meet up with her send me a PM.

What I especially like about her is that she always feels tight like the first time. She has good muscle control and encourages you. I am often reminded how much her service is really GFE compared to others. YMMV.

Mish, BBBJ, CBJ, FS, BS, CDS, DT.

L: 7
A: 9
S: 9

Tadhook
11-04-07, 14:57
What does Bebe look like?
She looks like she's in her 30's, on the thick side. Face 7, body 6.

Jet Black
11-04-07, 16:06
Ginger's still offers table showers.Same goes for TopFloor and Siam Thai. No TS. Sometimes, if your a newbie, and provider is very suspicious, you gotta BYOB too! Hehehe.

Mclovin808
11-05-07, 07:08
first of all, i would like to thank everyone on the forum for giving good tips & ratings. i helped me in my conquest. mahalos!

last week, to relieve some tension, i decided to pop my amp cherry. i've been reading the forum for a while and finally built up the courage to give mongering a shot.

so i ended up going to crystal healing after checking out a few other spots. nervously, i rang the doorbell and mamasan let me in and led me to a room. she told me to undress and asked me what kind of girl i wanted. i told her i wanted a japanese or korean girl, and a young one if possible. she said, "ok, " and i handed her. 5. so i undressed and laid on the bed with my heart pounding and i hoped that i would get someone good looking. so a korean girl came in and told me hello, and responded with a nervous, "hi. " i thought to myself, "daym shes pretty hot! " she then told me to lie on my back and started to give me a massage. she massaged me for about 15 min, then told me to flip over, so i did. we didn't say a word for the first 20 min or so. then she started to massage my balls, and ask for my age. i told her, and she didn't believe me. she also told me that the mamasan told her not to do anything with me b/c i looked ****. wtf! i know i look young. but i'm in my early 20's. anyways, she started giving me a hj and i couldn't get hard. we had a little' more small talk & i asked for her name, she smiled & said "koko. " we talked a little' more and i told her that i was nervous & it was my first time at an amp, and she told me not to be nervous, took her top off, and grabbed my hand and put it on her breast. i massaged them & i noticed they were fake. my first time touching fake boobs too. i still couldn't get it up, so i asked her if she could get fully undressed. then she told me she had her time of the month, bummers! : (oh, well so she finished me with a cbj and cleaned me up. talked for about 10 more minutes, and i tipped her $. i brought it in an envelope and she laughed at me saying, "is that your paycheck? " so i laughed it off, but felt a little embarrassed. then she walked me out the door and kissed me on my cheek goodbye. (never in my life i had that hard of a time getting it up. with my ex, i could get it up at will! must be the nervousness.) i was bummed that i didn't get fs, but happy that i at least got to see someone pretty hot. i can't really rate her (since she's my first) but i will give it a shot anyways. caught the bus home & i couldn't sleep all night.

l8 a9 s?

not bad considering, although she was pretty rough on the hj, i usually like to be touched with a little more care.

i also noticed that there were 2 or 3 more amp's in that building. any of them good?

Tommyah
11-05-07, 17:15
TS at P.Tree, VIP.

Stand-up solo at Pink and Crystal H.

Oysterogo
11-06-07, 04:41
Solo stand up shower at Pearl City Relaxation also. :(

Joe Som
11-06-07, 06:24
first of all, i would like to thank everyone on the forum for giving good tips & ratings. i helped me in my conquest. mahalos!

last week, to relieve some tension, i decided to pop my amp cherry. i've been reading the forum for a while and finally built up the courage to give mongering a shot.

so i ended up going to crystal healing after checking out a few other spots. nervously, i rang the doorbell and mamasan let me in and led me to a room. she told me to undress and asked me what kind of girl i wanted. i told her i wanted a japanese or korean girl, and a young one if possible. she said, "ok, " and i handed her. 5. so i undressed and laid on the bed with my heart pounding and i hoped that i would get someone good looking. so a korean girl came in and told me hello, and responded with a nervous, "hi. " i thought to myself, "daym shes pretty hot! " she then told me to lie on my back and started to give me a massage. she massaged me for about 15 min, then told me to flip over, so i did. we didn't say a word for the first 20 min or so. then she started to massage my balls, and ask for my age. i told her, and she didn't believe me. she also told me that the mamasan told her not to do anything with me b/c i looked ****. wtf! i know i look young. but i'm in my early 20's. anyways, she started giving me a hj and i couldn't get hard. we had a little' more small talk & i asked for her name, she smiled & said "koko. " we talked a little' more and i told her that i was nervous & it was my first time at an amp, and she told me not to be nervous, took her top off, and grabbed my hand and put it on her breast. i massaged them & i noticed they were fake. my first time touching fake boobs too. i still couldn't get it up, so i asked her if she could get fully undressed. then she told me she had her time of the month, bummers! : (oh, well so she finished me with a cbj and cleaned me up. talked for about 10 more minutes, and i tipped her $. i brought it in an envelope and she laughed at me saying, "is that your paycheck? " so i laughed it off, but felt a little embarrassed. then she walked me out the door and kissed me on my cheek goodbye. (never in my life i had that hard of a time getting it up. with my ex, i could get it up at will! must be the nervousness.) i was bummed that i didn't get fs, but happy that i at least got to see someone pretty hot. i can't really rate her (since she's my first) but i will give it a shot anyways. caught the bus home & i couldn't sleep all night.

l8 a9 s?

not bad considering, although she was pretty rough on the hj, i usually like to be touched with a little more care.

i also noticed that there were 2 or 3 more amp's in that building. any of them good?seen koko before. if she really had time of the month, she's goes on vacation. others on the board say they had full service. i asked, but she said she didn't feel like it. her hj is pretty rough and massage is pretty lame.

Nuts M
11-06-07, 13:39
Only no TS at youngs, all else I've been to have TS. And that's table, not trans. Hahaha.

Tommyah
11-06-07, 14:20
Did my usual, KB, then adventured to the AMP's. Stopped at Nirvana on Young St. Had 2 girls, both asian. Choose Kerry. Korean girl, long straight golden hair. Kerry's cute and sexy. She's fun and gives the GFE. Really affectionate. Gotta put her in the "My Favorite Girls" file.

TS Report. Nirvana. Didn't get the TS. I always look forward to a nice TS after drinking and before.------. Kerry said because this was my first time at Nirvana, I can get a TS after. Well, after came and still could get a TS 'cause there was someone in there. Maybe this is how they are cutting back on the TS's.

CM0069
11-06-07, 20:13
Mclovin808,

It sounds like you had Kiki.

S Hunter
11-06-07, 22:43
Same goes for TopFloor and Siam Thai. No TS. Sometimes, if your a newbie, and provider is very suspicious, you gotta BYOB too! Hehehe.


Siam Thai is an AMP? Any good? I like Thai chicks.

John Ross
11-06-07, 23:01
Siam Thai is an AMP? Any good? I like Thai chicks.
I wish! AFAIK, it is strictly legit.

Junior Boy
11-09-07, 00:10
I don't like to write reports that just repeat what others are saying and I hope this is not old news. I was hardup for some action around 2 am and tried a new place on king st. called Top floor.

What a waste of time! If I missed a report regarding this place I do apologize. did not get a name because I don't intend to return.

Be safe guys,

JB

Tagn Release
11-09-07, 00:24
Tried Maria at I'm. Great massage, possibilities of HE. Does anyone have recent report of experience. She is latina, 5'4" very thin and athletic. Great conversationalist and fun to be with. Looks are probably not everyones cup of tea. Age might be in the 50's. Definate MILF action.

TNR

Slypher
11-09-07, 01:47
Mclovin. (hehehe Mclovin hmm? That sounds like a sexy hamburger) anyhow. Good to hear you tried a place out.

Alright my friend, Mr. Slypher's got a new challenge for you, cause McLovin, we all know you're not here for the sex, but for the sheer thrill of going out of your way to screw a hot babe. Ok so that qualifies you being in it for that's just a minor detail

Now that you've gone to Crystal Healing, you've gotta step your game up. Head over to somewhere else, I suggest Pine Tree, China Spa, or ViP, all on Keaumoku Street. I'd suggest you try to calm yourself down. Don't go in all nervous. Take a deep breath before you go in and just imagine you're heading into a night club to get yourself some fine woman.

I was nervous too. Once upon a time. Now I can walk in like I own the place.

C Man
11-09-07, 04:46
Just to clarify, this Maria is not located on Queen St. but in Cent Cntr on the 36th floor? If so, then she is new to the scene (I think).

Joe Som
11-09-07, 05:24
Did my usual, KB, then adventured to the AMP's. Stopped at Nirvana on Young St. Had 2 girls, both asian. Choose Kerry. Korean girl, long straight golden hair. Kerry's cute and sexy. She's fun and gives the GFE. Really affectionate. Gotta put her in the "My Favorite Girls" file.

TS Report. Nirvana. Didn't get the TS. I always look forward to a nice TS after drinking and before.------. Kerry said because this was my first time at Nirvana, I can get a TS after. Well, after came and still could get a TS 'cause there was someone in there. Maybe this is how they are cutting back on the TS's.That happened to me with Joy at Nirvana, but I got TS after. She did a good massage during the TS too. Saw Kelly. Just as you described. L9/A10/S10. GFE.

Mr Chin
11-09-07, 05:37
Went to PT a couple weeks ago and all of a sudden heard a lot of noise and commotion, next thing I know I hear people yelling and ordering me and my provider to come out of the room.

LE had masks and were acting like we were a bunch of terrorists.

Took my name and phone number and checked my ID and told me to never come back again.

I can't believe the games the LE plays. Either this is a legal business or it's not. Don't treat people like criminals that patronize a business you allow to be open.

I'm reluctant to go back now because they have my name on record even though they didn't issue me a citation or anything. I think next time they might try to find some bogus charge to give me a record. What do you all think?

Member #3973
11-09-07, 19:56
Went to PT a couple weeks ago and all of a sudden heard a lot of noise and commotion, next thing I know I hear people yelling and ordering me and my provider to come out of the room.

LE had masks and were acting like we were a bunch of terrorists.

Took my name and phone number and checked my ID and told me to never come back again.

I can't believe the games the LE plays. Either this is a legal business or it's not. Don't treat people like criminals that patronize a business you allow to be open.

I'm reluctant to go back now because they have my name on record even though they didn't issue me a citation or anything. I think next time they might try to find some bogus charge to give me a record. What do you all think?

Of course no one can guarantee that LE will not try to come up with some bogus charge, but what should it be? It is perfectly legal to go to a relaxation place. It is even legal to have sex with the girls. It is not legal to agree to pay for sexual favors, but unless LE have a witness that is willing testify that you have agreed to pay for that, it will have no chance in court.

Just pure harassment. The aloha spirit is unknown to LE in Honolulu.

Youngho
11-09-07, 20:23
Since slypher and kauai guy suspect me to be LE, here's my second report. Just to remind you, I'm new to AMP's and I need some help since I just started going to these places.

The two best girls in VIP in my opinion are June (a Korean girl in her mid 30's who makes you feel at home first, licks you all over, and lets you take advantage of her if you feel like it; she also loves to play with your nipples.), and Ivy (another Korean girl probably in her early 30's that just loves to get it on first thing when she enters the room). I wish I could tell you more about that place. All the haole girls and this one Korean girl named Windy is not that great. They expect you to do all the work.

If you're like me, you like to drink before you head to these places. You feel a little drunk and you want some relaxation. Ivy and June are the way to go if you're headed over there.

The reason why I don't put in other AMP's are because I've only been to two others once. I've also been to Nirvana two weeks ago and Pine Tree about three weeks ago. I'm scared an LE is going to catch me one day since I'm still new going to these places.

Well, in Pine Tree I had a girl named Kristie. OK blowjob, missionary and doggie style wasn't too bad, but the massage after was pretty good. She loves to talk so you feel like you really get your money's worth after everything's all done with.

Ok, that was my input. I don't know much anywhere else. So please help. I assure you I'm not an LE. Plus, I don't know what all of the abbreviations on this site mean so if you can, please be specific. Thanks.

LexLuther
11-09-07, 20:45
Not sure about the state or local laws in HNL. However I do know that in some areas of the country, there are laws concerning what state of undress is legal in a massage establishment. Therefore I think you may have dodged a bullet.

Everyone knows a SW when they see one. But LE normally does not arrest them for just walking the streets. It's the same with AMPs. Everyone knows what goes on there but they can't close them down just for being in business. I agree that there is not much they can do to you, but for some guys just getting caught in such a place would be a big embarrassment. Wives, neighbors, children, church members, are likely to "misinterpret."

LexLuther

Tommyah
11-09-07, 22:34
That happened to me with Joy at Nirvana, but I got TS after. She did a good massage during the TS too. Saw Kelly. Just as you described. L9/A10/S10. GFE.Your right Joe, her name was Kelly, why did I call her Kerry?

Aaron Colt
11-10-07, 04:41
Since slypher and kauai guy suspect me to be LE, here's my second report. Just to remind you, I'm new to AMP's and I need some help since I just started going to these places.

The two best girls in VIP in my opinion are June (a Korean girl in her mid 30's who makes you feel at home first, licks you all over, and lets you take advantage of her if you feel like it; she also loves to play with your nipples.), and Ivy (another Korean girl probably in her early 30's that just loves to get it on first thing when she enters the room). I wish I could tell you more about that place. All the haole girls and this one Korean girl named Windy is not that great. They expect you to do all the work.

If you're like me, you like to drink before you head to these places. You feel a little drunk and you want some relaxation. Ivy and June are the way to go if you're headed over there.

The reason why I don't put in other AMP's are because I've only been to two others once. I've also been to Nirvana two weeks ago and Pine Tree about three weeks ago. I'm scared an LE is going to catch me one day since I'm still new going to these places.

Well, in Pine Tree I had a girl named Kristie. OK blowjob, missionary and doggie style wasn't too bad, but the massage after was pretty good. She loves to talk so you feel like you really get your money's worth after everything's all done with.

Ok, that was my input. I don't know much anywhere else. So please help. I assure you I'm not an LE. Plus, I don't know what all of the abbreviations on this site mean so if you can, please be specific. Thanks.

You certainly do not need to obtain anyone's approval or acknowledgement that you frequent any of these places. Primarily, this is a place to share experiences its not a FRATERNITY. And, do not think Hawaii is the only place to monger, this hobby is all over the frickin world and the same approach you take to Hawaii you take to any other establishment around the world, its really not that different....only some places are more friendly than others. Continue the conquest and share your experiences. I believe if you do a search with any of the abbreviations your not familiar they'll show up somewhere on this site and you'll be able to make out their full meaning.

Mr Chin
11-10-07, 07:59
Not sure about the state or local laws in HNL. However I do know that in some areas of the country, there are laws concerning what state of undress is legal in a massage establishment. Therefore I think you may have dodged a bullet.

Everyone knows a SW when they see one. But LE normally does not arrest them for just walking the streets. It's the same with AMPs. Everyone knows what goes on there but they can't close them down just for being in business. I agree that there is not much they can do to you, but for some guys just getting caught in such a place would be a big embarrassment. Wives, neighbors, children, church members, are likely to "misinterpret."

LexLutherActually I had rushed to put my clothes back on, but you're right they knew what was going on and just wanted to harass me.

My biggest concern would be getting seen on tv or having something on my record. But there was not anyone there except the local LE.

The thing that really gets me is how they spend so much taxpayer money and time to harass people who just want to have a little fun time and meanwhile they tell a co-worker of mine who had his car burglarized and papers inside that lead to his identity being stolen that" we don't have the manpower to do anything about it" and they even found the car abandoned with plenty of evidence left behind. Unbelieveable!

Tadhook
11-10-07, 11:32
Ok, that was my input. I don't know much anywhere else. So please help. I assure you I'm not an LE. Plus, I don't know what all of the abbreviations on this site mean so if you can, please be specific. Thanks.
Just click on the "Abbreviations" link at the top of the page. It covers pretty much everything you need to know.

Tommyah
11-10-07, 13:37
Youngho did mention girls we know, like June and Kristy, but, you ages you mention don't match their looks. June and especially Kristy look like their still in their 20's. Either you got the names from these threads and never really saw them, or you're really young and they look old to you. Ha!

Wasn't Kristy a real cutie? Test: Was Kristy Korean? What tattoo did June have on her bacK? If you answer correctly, I'm sure you'll be O. K. Here. As for me, you're doing just fine. You're choosing the cuties!

Hey guys, Is it safe to go back to Pine Tree? Any new info?

Is Naomi still at VIP? Every time I check out VIP, she's not there.

Smily75
11-11-07, 06:59
While yall spending your time pointing the finger at each other trying to figure out whoes LE, I just got back from that place on Akitson (orange, or NyNY, I don't know, I didn't ask).

After that post about tomato from Bronze Beast I figure id do a walkin and get to know her. Door was wide open and all the girls were in the waiting room (slow night I guess). Mama took me to the back room then made the girls do a small walk by at the door. This was only my second time at an AMP so I was still nervos at first and neglected to ask who tomato was or if she was even working. "All" the girls looked hot, in my opinion, but two girls caught my eye, one korean girl with blond hair and maya (Thai). I went with Maya, about 5'6", kinda heavy accent but understandable, slim but not bonny, natural brest, about C-cup, shoulder length hair, had what seemed to be a burn scar on right frontal uper leg/lower hip (which didn't bother me cause I thought she was realy hot).

We had a TS first where she told me it was her first day working there but she worked in may other AMPs before, mentioning China spa, youngs, and imperial. I went back to the room and had to wait for her to shower but I didn't mind the wait shake some of my nerves off. Came back in a skimpy see through dress which soon came off. Seemed mechanical at first with the CBJ then to the CW but after that she began to adjust to my needs and speeds, doggie on all fours, then doggie with me standing off the bed, a short period of mish, but then I got soft. I wasn't thinking when she said I could take off the condom if I wanted to while I tried to get it hard again but that ment the FS was over even after getting it hard. Basicly the rest of my time was her dancing over me and playing with herself till we both came. What I liked about her was that she allowed me to play, getting a little FIV, allowing me to get in a few licks (but not realy Daty), just basicly playing with her body at first, but she started limiting it as she started getting sensitive. Mama called time and she was kinda upset that I had to pop myself. She had a bubbly GFE attitude that was realy attractive.

L9 (based on my taste)

A10 (very attractive attitude)

S8 (realy good service but I had to finish myself)

Tommyah
11-11-07, 14:26
Funny you mention that "pointing finger" stuff. I really wasn't questioning YoungHo for real, I was kinda joking. I thought it was obvious. I have nothing against you, YoungHo.

The LE stuff started with the News in the media. It's the "Talk" of the forum here, for now. Last month it was the Rip-off's at Smile. Before that, it was the money in different pockets so we know exactly what we pay and to who. And before that, it was cameras behind the "2 way mirrors". It goes in phases. That's Hawaii. We "Talk Story".

What bothers me is what happen to Mr. Chin at Pine Tree. I would hate to lose my. $ Entry Fee! I was going adventure tonight!