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Horny Yankee
12-31-06, 18:31
Since Osaka is closed. Will everyone here go to lipstixx instead. Is there any other places that can match there prices or service. I really don't want to buy any kind of love doll that drew park suggested. Okay maybe if they make a korean love doll, I will LOL.
I live in Orlando but when I passed through Tampa I stopped at the jackshack on Hillsborough Blvd..close to Nebraska...is that OSAKA?? if they are closed I will be sad :(.. I have had good service there.
QUOTE=Drew Park]http://www.realdoll.com/dolls.asp
If Osaka is really closed, this might be an alternative. LOL
See Mai, Kaori and Rui.[/QUOTE]
Member #3929
01-01-07, 22:27
Since Osaka is closed. Will everyone here go to lipstixx instead. Is there any other places that can match there prices or service. I really don't want to buy any kind of love doll that drew park suggested. Okay maybe if they make a korean love doll, I will LOL.
I will probably stay clear from Lipstixx (unless there is a powerful reason to go), or maybe wait until a new version of Osaka reappears. I'm kinda semi-retired, but did see a couple of nice independents last year. Might repeat with some... still, Osaka was my place.
I actually stopped posting here a short while after what I saw about a year ago (by the end of December). I narrated (you guys can look for the post if you like) that after visiting the place around 8:45pm, I saw L.E. parked in the sidewalk, just feet away from Osaka's exit, and the officer inside the car seemed to be watching who went in and who left the place (he stared at me when I stared at him). I knew something was up after that, and almost exactly a year after, BAM.
I kept going, but kinda felt something was about to happen. Curiously enough, in my last trip there I had a blast with Tina, and I mean a blast... memorable. I remember she telling me "next time we make time for massage!"... no next time, though.
Will be waiting for report on the state of things in our favorite place.
Dodger Bulldog
01-01-07, 23:38
I saw L.E. parked in the sidewalk, just feet away from Osaka's exit, and the officer inside the car seemed to be watching who went in and who left the place... I knew something was up after that, and almost exactly a year after, BAM.Almost exactly one year, and then BAM!!!
A year is a long, long, time, man.
DB
Anyone here have recent experience with Japanese Spa on Kennedy?
See report I post under ATL m.p.'s.
This seems to be going on all over.
TremontTeddy
01-03-07, 19:58
I think the heat is really on this place. It's not confirmed, but I heard the police have made multiple visits to Osaka in the last couple weeks.
TT
Horny Yankee
01-03-07, 23:01
So is Osaka really closed or not?
So is Osaka really closed or not?
...and if it is, what is the fallback?
Bangkok was also closed last time I looked and someone reported fat white chicks were at Yoshiko.
What's an AMP go'er to do?
Horny Yankee
01-04-07, 21:22
[QUOTE=Drew Park]...and if it is, what is the fallback?
Bangkok was also closed last time I looked and someone reported fat white chicks were at Yoshiko.
What's an AMP go'er to do?[/QUOTE ]Well someone has to take one for the team. And maybe go to a different amp in Tampa. I am planning on going to an amp. Maybe this Thursday or Friday. But the only one I no that provides FS is Osaka. For a cheap price anyway.
Knight Stalker
01-05-07, 14:17
Last I heard, it's really bad at the moment. They think they are going to close any day now. Only one girl on duty at a time. 30 min sessions only. Which is really like 15 minutes. TS was done by Mamasan then rushed into room. Waited for the one girl. About a minute of light rubbing on back, no massage then flip over. After that, was quickly encouraged to dress and rushed out the door.
Best of luck on the search for the new Osaka as it seems the original just isn't the same anymore.
Knight Stalker
Last I heard, it's really bad at the moment. They think they are going to close any day now. Only one girl on duty at a time. 30 min sessions only. Which is really like 15 minutes. TS was done by Mamasan then rushed into room. Waited for the one girl. About a minute of light rubbing on back, no massage then flip over. After that, was quickly encouraged to dress and rushed out the door.
Best of luck on the search for the new Osaka as it seems the original just isn't the same anymore.
Knight StalkerAs of Saturday, January 6 they were still advertising in the Tampa Tribune on a daily basis.
John Kelly
01-06-07, 22:52
Did I have a dream, or was a category for 'lingerie shops' recently added? And now it has disappeared? Any explanations? I remember reading one post on there about a positive experience at a shop, which I found interesting considering that Osaka is riding the bubble ref closing. I don't remember who wrote it, or the name of the shop, but I would like to be reminded what it was.
Fellows, if you talk too much about good things, then bad things will happen.
Anyway, here is the alternative , as another member has suggested. Real doll. Actually there are many companies that manufacture such dolls. These are not your junk plastic inflatable dolls that you see on sitcoms. These are good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealDoll - look for CybOrgasMatrix.
Howard Stern once said it was the best sex he had - and he was not joking. CybOrgasMatrix website actually demonstrates how the flesh/boobs etc. react to touching and fondling. You should definitely check them out.
You can actually buy a torso for $1000 though - that is what 5-6 HJ. You can have your choice of face from a list of faces. I am sure you will find some Asian faces. You can customize these dolls in other ways too.
Have you guys tried Senso - called Nicole's Senso Fondle My Pussy Stroker ( made by California Exotic ). Cost about $30. Very good. Secret to using any such product is using generous amount of lubricant.
Also, we are getting off topic.
I'm curious as to whether Osaka is actually permanently closed at this point. I swore it off, but from it did add a certain flavor to the local scene. Plus, I did like the women there. That nice, asian desire to service is kind of hard to beat, and you couldn't argue with the prices. I'm hoping that the senior members find a suitable replacement, and maybe don't over-broadcast? The trick is that for every one monger that posts, there are at least ten that read. This board made a lot of money for the Osaka owners, but I'd bet that we were at least partially responsible for the current closing.
On another note, as far as Real Dolls go, I was having a conversation the other day with a friend about those. She just thought the idea was funny, and I told her that I couldn't see spending $1k+ on something that didn't give me the wiggle and giggle of a real girl. Frankly, I won't spend $30 on a Fleshlight when I can buy a set of socks. :)
Tampa Monger
01-07-07, 23:52
Did I have a dream, or was a category for 'lingerie shops' recently added? And now it has disappeared? Any explanations? I remember reading one post on there about a positive experience at a shop, which I found interesting considering that Osaka is riding the bubble ref closing. I don't remember who wrote it, or the name of the shop, but I would like to be reminded what it was.
Yeah, that's weird! Where the hell did it go? I posted to that thread and now it's gone.
Mike Wazowski
01-08-07, 01:56
Yeah, that's weird! Where the hell did it go? I posted to that thread and now it's gone.
Actually, there were a number of new threads, all started by Horny Yankee. Only one remains, now. I was wondering the same thing, as to why they disappeared. The conversation in the lingerie shop thread was civil. There was also quite a bit of people taking part in the conversation, weighing out the pros and cons.
I was wondering if it went astray and got removed.
I made the rounds today to check status in Tampa.
Osaka closed.
Bankok closed.
J-Spa on Gandy closed. The "open" sign was on but no one answered the phone or the door.
J-Spa on Kennedy closed for remodeling. They've been hiring American licensed massage therapists.
Sunshine on West Shore open.
Yokohama and Nagoya open, but nervous.
Service at Yoshiko was excellent. Didn't see any fat white women.
Looks like the AMP glory days in Tampa are taking at least a temporary hiatus.
Also, we are getting off topic.
I'm curious as to whether Osaka is actually permanently closed at this point. I swore it off, but from it did add a certain flavor to the local scene. Plus, I did like the women there. That nice, asian desire to service is kind of hard to beat, and you couldn't argue with the prices. I'm hoping that the senior members find a suitable replacement, and maybe don't over-broadcast? The trick is that for every one monger that posts, there are at least ten that read. This board made a lot of money for the Osaka owners, but I'd bet that we were at least partially responsible for the current closing.
On another note, as far as Real Dolls go, I was having a conversation the other day with a friend about those. She just thought the idea was funny, and I told her that I couldn't see spending $1k+ on something that didn't give me the wiggle and giggle of a real girl. Frankly, I won't spend $30 on a Fleshlight when I can buy a set of socks. :)Try it - if you think so much on spending $30, then you will miss out on lot of things in life. Technology is progressing by leaps and bounds - keep your eyes open and take advantage of it and don't be left behind.
Try it - if you think so much on spending $30, then you will miss out on lot of things in life. Technology is progressing by leaps and bounds - keep your eyes open and take advantage of it and don't be left behind.Or my humor doesn't translate well. Different strokes for different folks, pun intended.
:D
John Kelly
01-11-07, 16:49
Given that Osaka is closed, may I make a suggestion? We need to do periodic drive-bys, say every week or every other week, and watch to see if a 'for sale' or 'for lease' sign gets posted on the property. Also, just plain checking to see if they are open, say, once every two weeks, might not be a bad idea. If they are closed for good, that property will probably get signage on it before long. Either way, we need to know.
Tampa Monger
01-12-07, 18:43
Given that Osaka is closed, may I make a suggestion? We need to do periodic drive-bys, say every week or every other week, and watch to see if a 'for sale' or 'for lease' sign gets posted on the property. Also, just plain checking to see if they are open, say, once every two weeks, might not be a bad idea. If they are closed for good, that property will probably get signage on it before long. Either way, we need to know.
Osaka is closed, either for good or until they get the license situation sorted out. Went and checked it out today and it was dead. No cars, no answer to a knock, no one picking up the phone.
Looks like the Oinkers got their wish. How useless. Osaka didn't hurt anyone. It was quiet and discreet and provided great service at a very reasonable price. What a shame.
Heard today that they got Nagoya with the liscence deal. What a bunch of BS. I will have more info. later. This makes no sense at all. These places are low key, pay taxes and make a lot of donations to the sherriffs assoc. and the PBA. It looks like they would leave them alone.I think it is these piss ant health inspectors - beauracrats with no power have found a way to F**K with someone.There has got to be a way around the issue.
Osaka is closed, either for good or until they get the license situation sorted out. Went and checked it out today and it was dead. No cars, no answer to a knock, no one picking up the phone.
Looks like the Oinkers got their wish. How useless. Osaka didn't hurt anyone. It was quiet and discreet and provided great service at a very reasonable price. What a shame.It WAS discreet until you idiots had to essentially pick the cops up at the Krispy Kreme and drive them there yourselves. It was a great deal while it lasted and we all got great pleasure from those asian ******. Good times
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective: Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
Thanks,
Jackson
Tina, if you are reading this you are quite welcome to stay at my house untill you find new employment. I am sure we can work out some arrangement on the rent.
Num Num
I am having Osaka withdrawals. Forcing me to pollute the neighborhoods by patronizing the streetwalkers.
It sure is a good thing that the cops killed that tax base. Since Osaka was controlled, calm, isolated, and did not affect any neighborhoods. Government intelligence. Oxymoron.
Oh well., the street pushers are happy. Perhaps they have a formal lobby to shut down the MP's in order to increase street level business. I am sure the local residents are thrilled.
By the way, I know of 2 mud rollers who were perhaps the most frequent customers of OSAKA. Penny was the in house pig pleaser. So Jackson is dead on right, they knew.
My theory, people like me started to know the pigs were HUGE customers, so in order to divert the attention to the establishment from themselves, they bust it. They knew guys like myself started talking. They cant risk that. Especially when I happen to know for some odd reason they liked getting ass banged by the mamasan with a broom while watching those korean vhs tapes of chickens pulling a squirrel on a sled for money and prizes. The girls loved those tapes didnt they boys. Ah the memories. I have seen some wierd shit boys but why pigs like that is beyond me. Perhaps easy access to the good drugs without any accountability. Who knows?????
Pig or not, everyones loves a nice tight asian pampering your needs. DOnt you love it when Tina sucks your Ping Pongs then lays on the table and spreads her Paddles so you can sniff her smooth shaved teeter totter? Then a nice plop plop till you fizz fizz and she puts your socks on for you and ties your shoes. You hand her 40 m&m's and she hugs you in appreciation like you are the king of Addas Abbaba?
Num Num
I say we all throw cash in a hat and reopen the place and call it. Suky Suky Spa and Horny Ass Fuck Palace. That'll piss em off. Or maybe we call it Secret Sex Hut. Or even Afforable Asian Ass Imports. Or perhaps, Tits Ass and Korean Funny Tapes. And last but not least, Get Your Dick Sucked Quickly Before the Law Forces You to Do It Somewhere Else.
Last night on Hillsborough I picked up a street ho (since I couldnt do it in the comfort of a controlled environment). Her name was Alyanansalina. Anyone wanna guess if she was black? She said business really has been great for them since the MP's closed down. 40 for BBCIM with enthusiastic swallow birds. I assume she paid her taxes.
RIght?
The Fat Guy
01-14-07, 11:32
Could this crackdown be because of the Super Bowl? I know it is in Miami but the NFL is saying "South Florida" in all of its ads. Maybe Tampa is trying to "clean up" to impress some people. I know in Jax we had a crackdown in the month or so leading up to SB 39. They hit the bars, AMPS, and anything else that could be considered adult entertainment hard. Ran stings on escorts that came in from out of town, all because of heat the NFL took from the boob shot during halftime a year earlier. Why else was the last Beatle the halftime show? Our city government made it a "family friendly" event and made it he** on mongers and hobbyists.
Nagoya was busted Thurs. nite around 12:30. The poped two girls for no license. Ten to twelve cops showed up. You believe that.I guess it was a slow nite. What this is, and has done is increased the SW trade. So - we went from quite out of the way business to in your face on the streets.Good move City of Tampa.I wish someone would come up with a program to give these girls training so they could get their license. Maybe we could take it out in trade.
With the increase in closures got me thinking. Has any monger ever been held by LEO during or after visiting an amp or does leo historically go after the girls/or mgmt?
Tampa Monger
01-15-07, 17:34
With the increase in closures got me thinking. Has any monger ever been held by LEO during or after visiting an amp or does leo historically go after the girls/or mgmt?
I doubt this would ever happen, since the busts are for licensing, not prostitution. They'd have no reason to hold you, because it's not illegal to receive an unlicensed massage, but it is (apparently) illegal to give one. (Which is just plain silly.)
I doubt this would ever happen, since the busts are for licensing, not prostitution. They'd have no reason to hold you, because it's not illegal to receive an unlicensed massage, but it is (apparently) illegal to give one. (Which is just plain silly.)
I'd say it was a political thing, but somehow I don't see LMTs as having a particularly powerful lobbying organization. Those laws were put in place years ago to shut down the biker-run massage parlors. Waste of tax dollars.
I did see someone here ask why the spas didn't just pay to get the girls licensed. The answer is that is expensive, time consuming, and the test is actually pretty damned hard. A friend of mine went through the process a few years ago, and I was amazed at the detail the course material had. Given the limited command of English that most of the spa girls have, I don't see them passing.
I did see someone here ask why the spas didn't just pay to get the girls licensed.Certainly, a licensed therapist is no guarantee of a quality massage.
The girls at Yokohama and Japanese Spa are licensed.
They all do lousy massage and a lame tug.
Yellow Fever
01-15-07, 23:55
So lets have them give table showers before the massage and a pre-massage before the one LMT gives the 5 minute massage.
White Knight70
01-18-07, 13:41
Is Osaka really closed?
Are there any other massage parlors in that area that give same service?
Well I was going to ask about info for a place to relax. But from what I read Tampa is looking more like Louisville everyday.
B/C if any good info available so the dreaded LE can't spoil our fun!!
Thanks in advance,
Kyfireman
Newbie 2006
01-18-07, 22:15
I had a dream that I went to a AMP in Tampa that recently opened. The house rates were the standard $60 for a half and $80 for a full hour. The girls were a little younger than the Osaka girls were maybe late 20's early 30's and all wore bikini tops with short sarong type wraps own their bottoms. I picked a nice looking one with nice natural b cups and a decent face and opted for the full hour. The table shower was excellent as the attendant kept accidentally rubbing her breasts on my back as she sudsed me down also playing careful attention that my "boys" were nice and clean. Back in the room she gave a very decent massage considering it was unlicensed and "non-therapeutic" but my constantly reaching back and stroking her ass and legs gave her the idea that I wasn't really there for that. Soon I flipped over and well I won't give you all the details but lets just say I left "fully satisfied" (aka f/s) and my standard $80 tip seemed to please her pretty well.
Maybe some of you have had the same dream. I won't provide any more details as IMHO over-popularizing Osaka is partly what was responsible for doing that place in and I'd hate to see this dream get spoiled as well.
Member #3929
01-19-07, 03:00
I had a dream that I went to a AMP in Tampa that recently opened. The house rates were the standard $60 for a half and $80 for a full hour. The girls were a little younger than the Osaka girls were maybe late 20's early 30's and all wore bikini tops with short sarong type wraps own their bottoms. I picked a nice looking one with nice natural b cups and a decent face and opted for the full hour. The table shower was excellent as the attendant kept accidentally rubbing her breasts on my back as she sudsed me down also playing careful attention that my "boys" were nice and clean. Back in the room she gave a very decent massage considering it was unlicensed and "non-therapeutic" but my constantly reaching back and stroking her ass and legs gave her the idea that I wasn't really there for that. Soon I flipped over and well I won't give you all the details but lets just say I left "fully satisfied" (aka f/s) and my standard $80 tip seemed to please her pretty well.
Maybe some of you have had the same dream. I won't provide any more details as IMHO over-popularizing Osaka is partly what was responsible for doing that place in and I'd hate to see this dream get spoiled as well.
Do you or anyone have any idea of how can I induce myself to have this exact dream... if it's actually possible? :)
Was there a geographical location associated with this "new" place?
Dodger Bulldog
01-19-07, 19:30
I won't provide any more details as IMHO over-popularizing Osaka is partly what was responsible for doing that place in and I'd hate to see this dream get spoiled as well.If you won't share info, then what exactly is the point of writing about it?
Showing off? Bragging? Needing attention? Letting us know that you are smarter or luckier than anyone else? I'm at a loss here to understand what your motivation is to let everyone know that you have a secret and you're not going to tell. Why didn't you just keep it a secret?
However, you were quite thankful when others did not keep secrets from you:
I wanted to thank all you guys for letting me know about Osaka. I went there the other day and had such a good time that I tipped the girl $80 at the end. I always like to tip more than the recommended amount after my sessions because I think that gets me better service.You appreciate the givers on this board. But as for you, you've shown that you intend to be nothing but a taker.
I think Jackson made everything clear with his statement. Obviously, you don't think too much our moderator's point of view, as quoted from post # 724 on this thread:
Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective: Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
Thanks,
Jackson
Anyone have any experience with Aurora Therapy Oriental Massage. I have seen some ads on craiglist but looking for someone with good or bad experience.
Member #3929
01-20-07, 03:22
Anyone have any experience with Aurora Therapy Oriental Massage. I have seen some ads on craiglist but looking for someone with good or bad experience.
I went there in late December. They had two "girls" there, both old and extremely ugly. Still, the one that took care of me was very courteous and nice. Good TS (she even washed my hair!), below average massage and a HJ, without the hopes of anything else.
I don't plan to go back.
My experience was the same.
Tampa Monger
01-20-07, 10:59
I had a dream that I went to a AMP in Tampa that recently opened. The house rates were the standard $60 for a half and $80 for a full hour. The girls were a little younger than the Osaka girls were maybe late 20's early 30's and all wore bikini tops with short sarong type wraps own their bottoms. I picked a nice looking one with nice natural b cups and a decent face and opted for the full hour. The table shower was excellent as the attendant kept accidentally rubbing her breasts on my back as she sudsed me down also playing careful attention that my "boys" were nice and clean. Back in the room she gave a very decent massage considering it was unlicensed and "non-therapeutic" but my constantly reaching back and stroking her ass and legs gave her the idea that I wasn't really there for that. Soon I flipped over and well I won't give you all the details but lets just say I left "fully satisfied" (aka f/s) and my standard $80 tip seemed to please her pretty well.
Maybe some of you have had the same dream. I won't provide any more details as IMHO over-popularizing Osaka is partly what was responsible for doing that place in and I'd hate to see this dream get spoiled as well.
I think this is 100% dream and nothing more, but I hope I'm wrong.
Newbie,
I realize I am not much more than a newbie myself. I agree with Dodger Bulldog. If you don't want to share than don't post.
Now a smarter newbie would see if the mamasan would discount or comp the house fee for an increase in business attributal to Newbie.
"Hi, Mamasan, Uncle Sam sent me" or "I hear the tea in Seoul is especially good this year" catch phrases might earn you a few free sessions or fringe benefits.
Maybe I am just a pimp wannabe.
Newbie 2006
01-20-07, 15:51
If you won't share info, then what exactly is the point of writing about it?
Showing off? Bragging? Needing attention? Letting us know that you are smarter or luckier than anyone else? I'm at a loss here to understand what your motivation is to let everyone know that you have a secret and you're not going to tell. Why didn't you just keep it a secret?
However, you were quite thankful when others did not keep secrets from you:You appreciate the givers on this board. But as for you, you've shown that you intend to be nothing but a taker.Dodger Bulldog, I'd venture to say that I'm actually much more of a giver than you and everyone else around here since I'm not as much of a tightwad when tipping the girls as the rest of you. Besides, recheck my posts. I don't post here often but I've definitely shared info with my fellow members in the past. In fact, if you look at all my posts including that first one, in not one have I ever asked anyone else for information but only shared my thoughts and info with others. I've also written several reviews where I mentioned among other things how much I tip and was roundly criticised and ridiculed each time for what I wrote. Now here it is several months later and I'm still getting criticised and for what? I'm far from the first person to write about his "dreams" and yet now for some reason you choose to get on my case. So excuse me for being even less inclined to share much more now.
So why did I post at all? Maybe some of you have seen this new place, excuse me, had the same dream and know what I'm talking about and will now try it. Maybe the tiny handful of fellow members who weren't so dismissive of my past posts will PM me for the info that I won't post out in the open. What more do you expect me to do? Take out a billboard advertisement off of I-275 telling everybody far and wide "Hey, check out this place where you can get your rocks off for under $$" Its one thing to share info with a few fellow hobbyists in exchange for info I've benefitted from in the past, its another thing to irresponsibly throw out information to the vastly greater number of lurkers out there who are the true "takers".
I'm convinced it wasn't unlicensed massages that did Osaka in. Rather it was the sight of car after car swerving off of busy Hillsborough Bv. into the Osaka back parking lot that raised the neighborhood attention to the place and ultimately forced LE to act. We don't need to let the same thing happen to this new place by spreading the word about it too far and wide.
IWannaBInAsia
01-20-07, 17:16
Newbie,
I realize I am not much more than a newbie myself. I agree with Dodger Bulldog. If you don't want to share than don't post.
Now a smarter newbie would see if the mamasan would discount or comp the house fee for an increase in business attributal to Newbie.
"Hi, Mamasan, Uncle Sam sent me" or "I hear the tea in Seoul is especially good this year" catch phrases might earn you a few free sessions or fringe benefits.
Maybe I am just a pimp wannabe.Come on, guys, Newbie's an idiot and always sounds like one on this board. Ignore him and he'll go away. It truly was a dream and when he moves out from Mom's house, he may one day even visit a spa. Alone and without his Mom in tow. Search for his posts and see what I mean. We can only hope he gets mad, calls me a name and then disappears from this board for a while and goes off in the world "to do more of his good deeds. " We can only hope.
I think this is 100% dream and nothing more, but I hope I'm wrong.
I agree. I think I have visited all the FS spas (most closed now...) and outside of the late Osaka, none are as inexpensive as he reported. In fact, the going rate for FS with an Asian honey was $$ but it was somewhat negotiable... but certainly NOT down to 80.
And from my experience few spas offer a "line up" especially for newbies.
Tampa Monger
01-20-07, 17:46
Well, pretty much everything about Newbie's post except the $$ reminds me of Sunshine, which I just visited today. I saw "Bobbie". By far the hottest AMP girl I've ever had, and also the most expensive at $80 + $200 (full service). Fantastic, but I can't repeat for that money.
Member #3929
01-20-07, 21:05
Well, pretty much everything about Newbie's post except the $$ reminds me of Sunshine, which I just visited today. I saw "Bobbie". By far the hottest AMP girl I've ever had, and also the most expensive at $80 + $200 (full service). Fantastic, but I can't repeat for that money.
Are we talking "fantastic" like in Sunny, Penny or Tina?
Tampa Monger
01-21-07, 04:20
Are we talking "fantastic" like in Sunny, Penny or Tina?
To each his own, I guess. I found Sunny worthless, Penny mediocre, and Tina marvelous. This Bobbie was between Penny and Tina in service, but hotter than both put together times 10. Unfortunately everything was covered. I like my BBBJs. Can't come with a condom on.
Member #3929
01-21-07, 15:09
To each his own, I guess. I found Sunny worthless, Penny mediocre, and Tina marvelous. This Bobbie was between Penny and Tina in service, but hotter than both put together times 10. Unfortunately everything was covered. I like my BBBJs. Can't come with a condom on.
Very interesting. I would say Penny and Sunny always gave the extra mile with me. I don't know why, but those two women treated me like few women have treated me in the "real" world. Tina was awesome as well, but a bit less enthusiastic when it came to me. Probably chemistry...
Still, this Bobbie must be experienced!
Tampa Monger
01-26-07, 09:32
What now?
The beauty of Osaka was down'n'dirty, unrushed service with good-looking* girls for an unbeatable price. This combination just doesn't exist anywhere. I can get down'n'dirty rushed service with a hot girl at Lipstixx, for instance, and the price isn't too bad, but I HATE to be rushed. I learned to live with it, but Osaka has spoiled me.
Fucking government shitbags. Believe it or not, I want our hobby to remain illegal. I just want enforcement to be lax. The reason I want it to remain illegal is because if it were ever made legal in this country it would end up a latex-wrapped nightmare because Americans are such puritans. No BBBJs, etc. I don't want that. Also, the fact that it's illegal kind of turns me on a bit when I'm at it, you know what I'm saying?
*I only found a few of them good-looking: Tina, Yumi (my ATF: young, unrushed, hot body, beautiful ass, god I miss her), Judy (hot body), Anna, and that's about it. I stuck with them. Fortunately all three also provided great service. (The rest were mostly fugly, in my opinion. But to each his own.)
Newbie 2006 And The Mystery Parlor
As for Newbie 2006, I'm now inclined to believe him. When I said that his post was 100% dream, I thought he was misleading us because he was angry with some of the people on this board, but after reading his last post I'm not so sure.
Anyway, whether Newb tells me or I find it myself, I WILL find the place he's talking about, if it exists.
Chase Star
01-26-07, 20:25
Well I for one think that newbie's full of shit. (or forgot to take his meds)
Dodger Bulldog
01-27-07, 00:21
Newbie,
When I said you are a taker, it has nothing to do with how much you tip, and you know that. Don't try to change the subject.
It has everything to do with using information posted on the board to find what you want, but never writing posts with any information that helps others find what they are looking for.
Besides, recheck my posts. I don't post here often but I've definitely shared info with my fellow members in the pastOkay, Newbie, I accepted your challenge and reviewed all 15 of your posts.
Not once did you provide any information about anyone or any place new that your fellow mongers could use.
I would categorize the 15 posts as follows:
Osaka (not news) 5
"White slavery" (your terminology) 5
Personal Defensiveness 3
SW Fashion Critic 1
"New AMP" (unnamed, no location) 1
Now I am CHALLENGING YOU to provide a link here to any report you've written where you "shared info with my fellow members" that is of any usefullness.
Your Osaka reports that have no useful information whatsoever, only what a generous tipper you are. Oh yeah, and how you were turned down for Greek.
DB
Newbie 2006
01-27-07, 11:24
Dodge Artist,
All I know is that you called me "a taker". Exactly what you meant to imply by that could be several things but I addressed both possibilities. I'm not some type of cheapskate. I pointed out how I give to the girls. AND I ALSO proved how I give back to the board. You may question the value of my info, but at least I haven't just asked a lot of questions, like most newbies do (in fact, I haven't asked for anything[b]). Or worse, I haven't just lurked around, like I'm sure far more people do, just reading the reports of others. I freely offered whatever there was that I could share and just got slapped in the face for it.
Besides, I question your completely subjective classification of my posts. Posting reviews of my experiences at Osaka may not qualify as "new" info to [b]you, but it is still info. For example, someone specifically asked if greek was available there. The very same evening as several senior members chimed in on the same question, I simply replied with what Tina told me: "the only times she'll ever do it is if the guys dick is really small so that it doesn't hurt as much." Now maybe, you got her to do greek with you and were offended by what I related. I'm sorry if I insulted your manhood.
But going beyond any personal animosity between us, if posting about Osaka is not news then there hasn't been a hell of a lot of news in this section for quite some time. I'd say at least 95% of the Osaka posts don't really qualify as news either. In fact, probably only a very tiny handful of people here actually "discovered" Osaka on their own and only one member posted the first report. Sure there has been the occasional new girl, but besides that how much of any of the rest that followed really could be considered "news". Your post just further proves my real point about how pointless nearly all of the posting about Osaka has been.
Oh yeah, since you're taking all this time to personally rate my posts, you can put this one down as "personal defensiveness" too but maybe if people didn't attack everything I say so much (do those posts qualify as news to you either?), I wouldn't have to defend myself. Even paranoids have enemies.
Dodger Bulldog
01-27-07, 19:49
AND I ALSO proved how I give back to the board.You had some choices. Perhaps you should have just kept quiet, since you knew how little you had reported. Or maybe you should have apologized to the board and shared your "secret."
But no, you decided to challenge me to review your posts to find all the info you claim to have provided. Bad call.
So I did, and I found nothing of value. All you "proved" in your next post was that you had nothing to point a link at, just as I had predicted.
I simply replied with what Tina told me: "the only times she'll ever do it is if the guys dick is really small so that it doesn't hurt as much." Now maybe, you got her to do greek with you and were offended by what I related. I'm sorry if I insulted your manhood. You are reduced to making up a fantasy about me in an silly attempt to make a personal attack. Instead of dealing with the issue.
Weak, man. Very childish.
But going beyond any personal animosity between usThe animosity is all yours. I just held a mirror up so you could look at yourself. I reflected your own words back to you to show how you take information from the board but refuse to give information back to your fellow mongers.
Obviously, that set you off. I guess you don't like what you see in that mirror.
The other guys' comments show what they think of you and your inflammatory ways.
I'm done with you. You are now on my ignore list.
DB
Newbie 2006
01-28-07, 00:07
Remember, you are the one who challenged me to review your posts to find all the info you claimed to share.I've no problem at all with your reviewing my posts if you've qot so much time on yout hands you want to do that. All I was questioning was your conclusions about that review. Maybe you "found nothing of value" to yourselfhat is your own value judgement. You said I give nothing to the board but only take. And yet in your own review of my posts the simple fact is you could find nothing that qualified as a question or of in any other way as just taking. And, at the same time, whatever your personal views about the value of those posts might be, the simple fact is that they offered something back to the board. Maybe they were just opinions, or speculations or boring (to you) stories, but at least they were something. What you personally think of them, I could really care less.
You are reduced to making up your own fantasy about me in an silly attempt to make a personal attack. Instead of dealing with the issue.
Weak, man. Very childish.I know you are, but what am I? Is that the best you've got? And who are you to complain about personal attacks? Weren't you the one that started all this by personally attacking me? Before that I happened I had never even directly addressed you or any of your posts. Any way, believe me, the last thing I have is ANY fantasy about you. Maybe you think I do in your homo-erotic dreams. All I did was offer a concrete example of factual information that I have GIVEN to the board. It was directly "dealing with the issue" because by itself disproved your charges that I am only a taker. I only added a speculation that the comment I made might have something to do with why you seem so fixated on attacking me and taking the time to review my posts in a vain attempt to bolster your baseless charges. Whether that motivator is really the basis for your attacks or not I really have no idea and don't much care. But I will say this, your defensive reaction suggests that I might have hit close to the mark.
The animosity is all yours. I just held a mirror up so you could look at yourself. I quoted your own words to show how you take information from the board but refuse to give back to your fellow mongers.
Obviously, it set you off. I guess you don't like what you see in that mirror.It takes two to tango, brother. Maybe you should look in that mirror yourself. If there is no animosity, why did you continue to make such long and involved posts. Obviously what I've posted has "set you off" as well. What you have quoted proves absolutely nothing. What you have written proves only how lame you can be too. Maybe you shouldn't be casting any stones.
Will you two guys knock it off!
Monger testosterone frustrations are pretty high here with the closing on that "unnamed place" on Hillsborough Ave.
Then N 2006 reports he found an alternate Nirvana with service and costs identical to the "unnamed place" on Hillsborough. Those of us who have been here for a while and have sampled more than *****, were skeptical. Very skeptical.
Now we have this personal blustering about manhood on these pages. Don't need it. Don't want to read it.
N 2006 - If you are uncomfortable about sharing the details here on the board then feel free to PM those who ask.
Otherwise it is nothing more than "I got laid cheaply but I aint telling! Nah nah nah nah nah..."
Chase Star
01-28-07, 10:00
I'm on record as saying that I personally think Newbies report was full of shit. I'll go further to say that I think BOTH Dodger and Newbie have been acting like idiots. Dodger for first attacking Newbie, Newbie for reacting defensively and Dodger for in turn feeding the flames. BOTH should have just let it go.
However, whatever else you can say about Newbie, if he is a taker, he is no more so than the probable vast majority of members that come to this site, take information and never post anything back at all. At least he has tried to post some things, whatever value you might assign to them. Actually, I think he raised a few other good points in his last few posts (surprisingly enough)
...if posting about Osaka is not news then there hasn't been a hell of a lot of news in this section for quite some time. I'd say at least 95% of the Osaka posts don't really qualify as news either. In fact, probably only a very tiny handful of people here actually "discovered" Osaka on their own and only one member posted the first report. Sure there has been the occasional new girl, but besides that how much of any of the rest that followed really could be considered "news". Your post just further proves my real point about how pointless nearly all of the posting about Osaka has been.If you want to start assigning value to other members posts there is probably a lot around here that could be questioned (my posts included). How have most of the posts around here, up until the recent Osaka closing, been anything more than "I got laid cheaply but I aint telling you anything you didn't already really know! Nah nah nah nah nah...". Look how dead this section has become (except for this little battle between DB and Newb) since we can no longer boast of our recent "conquests" at Osaka (or similar alleged places).
I don't think posting about the content of our "dreams" really tells LEO anything they didn't already know, but it can drastically pump up business at a particular place and that's what I think did in Osaka. There are lots of AMP's that somehow continue to operate despite the fact that they don't provide licensed massages. The only thing that made Osaka different was the car after car that conspicuously disrupted traffic trying to pull into that little parking off of busy Hillsborough Bv. For these places to survive they need to stay as inconspicuous as possible in the neighborhood or someone is gonna say "stop, look what's going on next door and do we really want that here".
I'm not saying we shouldn't share info of new places that provide good service and value with each other. I'm just saying I understand Newbie's conflicted values if indeed there is anything to what he reported.
Here is some Osaka news then.
According to Mamasan (sp) they will reopen in about another week and a half. She is waiting for another woman with a license to come in.
What does this mean in terms of service? I don't know. I do know that most (hint) of the girls have left the State as they are afraid or just can't make any money.
Dodger Bulldog
01-28-07, 16:29
This is from Jackson's FAQ page http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions#faq_faq_general_questions_01:
"What is the purpose of this Forum?
'The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women."
It appears that there are some members who have a problem with the sole reason this board exists. Then why come here?
DB
Hard Working 19
01-28-07, 19:28
And none of either your last several posts or Newbie's last several posts met the purpose. Lets keep it civil and get back to the mission.
This is from Jackson's FAQ page http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions#faq_faq_general_questions_01:
"What is the purpose of this Forum?
'The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women."
It appears that there are some members who have a problem with the sole reason this board exists. Then why come here?
DB
TremontTeddy
01-28-07, 20:12
Feeling lucky, I took a trip to Osaka today hoping they reopened. No luck, back door locked & no one home. Some note written on the door, but all the ink ran off.
Probably by now all the girls have been reassigned to new cities. Bye Sunny, Penny & Judy.
TT
Fla Monger II
01-28-07, 21:07
Probably a wild shot in the dark, but I was just in Gulfport Miss. THere is an Osaka Spa there, and I think I read a report that there is a Tina there now.
I didn't have time to venture over, and the prices being charged seemed high compared to our Osaka...but maybe next time I'm there, I'll take one for the team and check it out.
The Fat Guy
01-29-07, 11:18
Here is some Osaka news then.
According to Mamasan (sp) they will reopen in about another week and a half. She is waiting for another woman with a license to come in.
What does this mean in terms of service? I don't know. I do know that most (hint) of the girls have left the State as they are afraid or just can't make any money.
I am hoping to have a small vacation in the middle of Feb. and after dropping off my kid and friend at BG I was hoping to hit Osaka for some relaxation. Maybe they will be open in time for my trip. If not... well, I can always remember the fun I had on my visits there in the past.
I checked out Bobbi at Sunshine and found her to be a stunning hottie.
However, with apparently another customer waiting, she was just going through the motions and in a hurry to move on.
Sara did the TS, shuffled me into the room, Bobbi comes in for the kill, and is off again while Sara returns for the cleanup, all too rushed and impersonal for my taste.
I have a poblem that started a little over a month ago. It was late at night and I needed a massage desperately. Every place I called was closed, I happened to stumble upon this place that was open called Osaka. A day after I received my massage is where my troubles began. My back and neck are in constant pain and my left arm goes numb from time to time. From what I hear this place has been in business for several years. How could they be opened this long without a license? I will be looking into taking legal action against the city of Tampa for allowing this kind of place to operate for so long without a license. If the city wants to play hardball well then there are about to meet the Jose Canseco of massage parlors.
MotherFucker
01-30-07, 18:35
I have a poblem that started a little over a month ago. It was late at night and I needed a massage desperately. Every place I called was closed, I happened to stumble upon this place that was open called Osaka. A day after I received my massage is where my troubles began. My back and neck are in constant pain and my left arm goes numb from time to time. From what I hear this place has been in business for several years. How could they be opened this long without a license? I will be looking into taking legal action against the city of Tampa for allowing this kind of place to operate for so long without a license. If the city wants to play hardball well then there are about to meet the Jose Canseco of massage parlors.I LOL'd.
Before people get all flame-y, take a good look at this post, who is apparently posting it, and what website you're on.
Please do not feed the trolls.
I have a poblem that started a little over a month ago. It was late at night and I needed a massage desperately. Every place I called was closed, I happened to stumble upon this place that was open called Osaka. A day after I received my massage is where my troubles began. My back and neck are in constant pain and my left arm goes numb from time to time. From what I hear this place has been in business for several years. How could they be opened this long without a license? I will be looking into taking legal action against the city of Tampa for allowing this kind of place to operate for so long without a license. If the city wants to play hardball well then there are about to meet the Jose Canseco of massage parlors.
Dear Pam, I'm sorry about your experience. For some reason us guys enjoy the pain that those unlicensed Osaka attendants provide. Call us masochists. But I will admit I also have had a body part go numb while I was there, but I believe it was related to an overuse injury.
Pray tell, did you enjoy a happy ending??
Mr. Park, Tampa FL & Washington DC
Horny Yankee
01-30-07, 20:40
I have a poblem that started a little over a month ago. It was late at night and I needed a massage desperately. Every place I called was closed, I happened to stumble upon this place that was open called Osaka. A day after I received my massage is where my troubles began. My back and neck are in constant pain and my left arm goes numb from time to time. From what I hear this place has been in business for several years. How could they be opened this long without a license? I will be looking into taking legal action against the city of Tampa for allowing this kind of place to operate for so long without a license. If the city wants to play hardball well then there are about to meet the Jose Canseco of massage parlors.Let me ask you this. Why on earth whould you go to osaka for a legit massage anyway. Osaka is in a bad neighborhood to begin with. As for you saying no other place was open is BS. Unless you went late at night for some reason, there are plenty of legit massage places to go. Were they have a license. I think you are really full of shit and you are pulling everybodys leg here for no reason. But to start some flame wars. I really feel sorry for people like you.
Routine inspections are being made in Tampa specifically looking for unlicensed providers. This is creating most of the upheaval there. I spoke to a provider Sunday that came in from another state and before she even went to work or opened her suitcase headed back out of town. The AMPs are pretty much looking for licensed massage therapists.
TwistedBrother
01-31-07, 00:40
Pam, maybe you didn't get the memo, but the purpose if this forum is to exchange info about finding sex, not to make lame threats against providers. You need to take your little trolling self to another web site or you will meet the Jack Bauer of message board admins.
I have a poblem that started a little over a month ago. It was late at night and I needed a massage desperately. Every place I called was closed, I happened to stumble upon this place that was open called Osaka. A day after I received my massage is where my troubles began. My back and neck are in constant pain and my left arm goes numb from time to time. From what I hear this place has been in business for several years. How could they be opened this long without a license? I will be looking into taking legal action against the city of Tampa for allowing this kind of place to operate for so long without a license. If the city wants to play hardball well then there are about to meet the Jose Canseco of massage parlors.
Hard Working 19
01-31-07, 00:55
Easy there Twisted. It's kind of a local joke. When we need help, we will let you know.
Pam, maybe you didn't get the memo, but the purpose if this forum is to exchange info about finding sex, not to make lame threats against providers. You need to take your little trolling self to another web site or you will meet the Jack Bauer of message board admins.
Chase Star
01-31-07, 05:28
Evidently many of our local brothers don't even recognize the name of their own mayor. I wouldn't even call this trolling since it is obvious whoever posted it (and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Mayor Pam) was joking and making no secret about it. Lighten up guys.
Tampa Monger
01-31-07, 07:57
Evidently many of our local brothers don't even recognize the name of their own mayor. I wouldn't even call this trolling since it is obvious whoever posted it (and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Mayor Pam) was joking and making no secret about it. Lighten up guys.Haha! I know. I was laughing my ass off over their serious responses, though.
Mayor of Tampa: Pam Iorio
Hillsborough County Sheriff: David Gee
Tampa Chief of Police: Stephen Hogue
Governor of Florida: Charlie Crist
President of the United States: George Bush
Dark Lord of the Sith: Dick Cheney
Come on, guys.
The Pam Iorio thread made me laugh (yes, I KNEW who she was...) but the prospect of a woman in an AMP reminded me of an experience I had in Yoshiko a few years ago.
I had gone on an early Sunday afternoon and while I was there a woman showed up. I got a peek at her and she was middle aged and looked like any other housewife. I was surprised and asked Laura (my attendant) what was going on. In her bad English she indicated that it wasn't all that unusual.
And no I have no idea if the lady got a table shampoo and a happy ending. But who knows...
"Jeez, this work is backbreaking...I think I'll go to Osaka for a massage"
Doctor Beaver
02-01-07, 12:36
Since Osaka is closed. Is there any other places to go. I know Nagoya got busted a few weeks ago. Does anybody have any info on Nagoya? If they are still open or not? Also trying to find out about Yokohama, if they give FS service or not.
White Knight70
02-01-07, 17:37
Since Osaka is closed. Is there any other places to go. I know Nagoya got busted a few weeks ago. Does anybody have any info on Nagoya? If they are still open or not? Also trying to find out about Yokohama, if they give FS service or not. I am looking for the same. Any mp's out there compared to osaka. Don't care about spending a little more, as long as I have fun. Any info on these places. Yokohama. Nagoya. J spa gandy/ j spa / kennedy. Sunshine spa west shore. Also I am looking for the exact address on the sunshine spa. So I can mapquest it. No listing in the yellow pages for it, just the phone number.
Thanks WK.
TremontTeddy
02-01-07, 20:26
Paid a visit this week to the spa that likes Sun and saw Bobby. $80 house fee for an hour massage and $$ tip. Pretty much almost three trips to Osaka in cost.
The Spa- first rate in looks & features. Nicest seam room and table shower room I’ve seen.
Bobby- As previously discussed she’s a young hotter. One of the best massages I’ve ever had with rubbing, back walking, lotion, hot towels & more. Massagewise she gives the works! As far as the main event, she was a dead fish for me. No BBJ or DFK on the menu.
Overall experience was good but to rich for my blood.
TT
I am looking for the same. Any mp's out there compared to osaka. Don't care about spending a little more, as long as I have fun. Any info on these places. Yokohama. Nagoya. J spa gandy/ j spa / kennedy. Sunshine spa west shore. Also I am looking for the exact address on the sunshine spa. So I can mapquest it. No listing in the yellow pages for it, just the phone number.
Thanks WK.
stay away from both of the J spas if you want any thing above a Korean Grandmother in a big hurry to get you out of the place with no care if you ever come back or not
stay away from both of the J spas if you want any thing above a Korean Grandmother in a big hurry to get you out of the place with no care if you ever come back or notYou can add Yokohama to the list. The same person owns all three places.
Richie Sambora
02-06-07, 11:34
STAY AWAY FROM THE J-SPAS, THEY SUCK and not in the way you want them to. Stay safe RDD
You can add Yokohama to the list. The same person owns all three places.If you are looking for things as they used to be in Tampa, it might be quite awhile before things return to normal, if they ever do. The spas are being swept regularly by inspectors seeking out unlicensed workers and taking action. Green card holders can no longer work as they used to be able to. Consequently, the businesses are being forced to change how they operate. If you find what you are looking for, chances are you will pay a premium or settle for less because the risk is otherwise too great for the provider. Those young pretty girls who have been working to earn enough money to live on, get a green card or citizenship are pretty much a magnet for inspectors to ask for licenses. That's why you may see prices when you are fortunate enough to find what you are looking for be beyond what you are willing to pay. On the other hand, if you have enjoyed the months and years of pleasure provided by the spas, you might want to consider visiting from time to time to support them and help them get through this period. Just my 2 cents.
TwistedBrother
02-06-07, 19:34
Easy there Twisted. It's kind of a local joke. When we need help, we will let you know.Ah, well, that's what I get for not reading months of posts. But still, you don't need this "when we need help, we will let you know". I travel a lot and post in many states and defend my right to post and react to anything in any forum. I've been out of town and helped locals find stuff in their own town, so I know the score.
And, of course, the "Jack Bauer" I was referring to was Jackson.
Anyway, not trying to start a fight and I'll know next time.
I spoke with a girl in Atlanta yesterday, to see what was up. She is getting ready to go back to N.Y. and start school for a license. She said "big police problem there".Said she will work for a place - but "no sex business".I am hoping they find someway around this deal - like maybe just body shampoo and relaxing rub down. Maybe no license is required. Any place that you do find that still plays is charging out the ying yang.
AlterdBeast
02-07-07, 13:28
What is a good alternative for my once favorite place. Asian or not, doesnt matter. Just looking for the full treatment. I know of one but its way to $$$$. Please post or pm I appreciate your help.
Legalize it
02-07-07, 22:55
Yoshiko and Sunshine Spas are still open and have good looking women and good service. But they are a little expensive.
Doctor Beaver
02-08-07, 15:49
Okay I have ask this question before. the massage place called yokohama on dale mabry . Is it any good at all . what services do they offer . if they do f s there, what do they charge for it. I ran across there web page, seems to clean and legit for that. there web page is http://www.spayokohamatampa.com/location.nxg the link might not work .
Okay I have ask this question before. the massage place called yokohama on dale mabry . Is it any good at all . what services do they offer . if they do f s there, what do they charge for it. I ran across there web page, seems to clean and legit for that. there web page is http://www.spayokohamatampa.com/location.nxg the link might not work .It is clean, but I think this place is awful.
They'll charge you $80 to get in the door, They'll want to kill 20 minutes by parking you in a steam sauna, you'll get a hurried shower, and they'll walk on your back to avoid actually doing a massage.
They'll want $80-100 tip for an uninspired yank. No F/S available.
I could tolerate all the above if they had a friendly attitude. But that is by far their worst attribute.
The J-spas and Yokohama are all owned by the same person. You'll get similar service in all.
What about the place on Kennedy just West of Dale Mabery? If you are driving West it's on your right in a little strip mall. I think it might be called Yoshiko, but I'm not sure. I did have a great time there about a year ago.
What about the place on Kennedy just West of Dale Mabery? If you are driving West it's on your right in a little strip mall. I think it might be called Yoshiko, but I'm not sure. I did have a great time there about a year ago.Yoshiko House fee $60/80 and tip = $$
Doctor Beaver
02-09-07, 19:27
Yoshiko House fee $60/80 and tip = $$Okay, so is my math up to par. House fee is $80 or $60 dollars and $200 or so for a tip. So around $260 or $280 all together. Shit for that amount I can get a regular escort. Even though I love the asian ladies, I don't love them that much. I think I'll pass on that place.
Yoshiko and Sunshine Spas are still open and have good looking women and good service. But they are a little expensive.So those places and the "J's" are still open.. what about Magic? I have had ok experiences there in past.
(Mourning Osaka like everyone else)
Magic Spa on Kennedy reopens under new ownership Saturday Feb 10. The owner is still getting some kinks out so be patient. Phone service will not be restored until Monday or Tuesday so cards cannot be accepted but will be shortly. Thought I would pass this info along to those who have been wondering about it.
Knight Stalker
02-10-07, 01:48
I heard that Magic Health Spa on Kenneday Blvd is reopening at 10 AM on Saturday, February 10. They may not be able to take phone call until next week sometime. It also might be only cash for the moment. It's under new management.
Doctor Beaver
02-11-07, 18:01
I heard that Magic Health Spa on Kenneday Blvd is reopening at 10 AM on Saturday, February 10. They may not be able to take phone call until next week sometime. It also might be only cash for the moment. It's under new management.What makes you think , it will be FS. They got busted not long ago. And Bangkok Spa also.
One place I never seem to see mentioned is Seven Star on Kennedy.
Anyone have experience or advice to share?
CT Visitor
02-13-07, 06:52
I heard that Magic Health Spa on Kenneday Blvd is reopening at 10 AM on Saturday, February 10. They may not be able to take phone call until next week sometime. It also might be only cash for the moment. It's under new management.
Anyone checked it out for value & Price. Same as Yashiko? I did a search & came up with Yashikos address?
Horny Yankee
02-13-07, 09:53
Anyone been to Magic yet?
I was wondering if they provide FS at all.
BigMoonRising
02-14-07, 11:17
One place I never seem to see mentioned is Seven Star on Kennedy.
Anyone have experience or advice to share?Sevin Star has been one of my favorite places over the last three years, never had any problems. However on my last visit they were very nervous as they have been visited relentlesly by uncle LE trying to catch them for providing unliscensed massage.
What a waste of taxpayer resources when violent crime is on the rise all over Florida!
TremontTeddy
02-20-07, 21:46
Any word on Osaka? Still locked up & no phone anwser.
TT
Saw Abi at Sunshine Spa yesterday. She claims to be half Hawaiian half Japanese. All the other girls I have been with at this establishment have been Korean so I remain a little skeptical. On the other hand, she was darker skinned. This girl has a body to die. She claims to be a personal trainer. I believe it, however, the TS was horrible and the massage was average at best. The half and half experience was also lackluster. Overall, I preferred the other petite girl, Yoyo who is still there. They seem to bring the girls in for one month stints at this place. Good idea as variety is the spice of life as we all know.
Saw Abi at Sunshine Spa yesterday. She claims to be half Hawaiian half Japanese. All the other girls I have been with at this establishment have been Korean so I remain a little skeptical. On the other hand, she was darker skinned. This girl has a body to die. She claims to be a personal trainer. I believe it, however, the TS was horrible and the massage was average at best. The half and half experience was also lackluster. Overall, I preferred the other petite girl, Yoyo who is still there. They seem to bring the girls in for one month stints at this place. Good idea as variety is the spice of life as we all know.I saw YoYo on Saturday, and was very dissapointed with her service. The massage was borderline painful. Sarah, the mamasan is by far the best for massage if you can talk her into it. I would see her for massage only without extras its that good.
Jaloochapurr
02-27-07, 21:40
Right after they were raided, went there mama told me all girls have gone and that they came checking her. Well she herself the mama san gave me a good time all the works, all the time I had been going there I wanted to do mama but she never did. But I sure miss a girl name coco she let me have my ways in any manner. Anybody have idea where these girls went?
Did a business search once and found a name, maybe can locate. Oh how do miss so much.
Horny Yankee
02-28-07, 20:45
Right after they were raided, went there mama told me all girls have gone and that they came checking her. Well she herself the mama san gave me a good time all the works, all the time I had been going there I wanted to do mama but she never did. But I sure miss a girl name coco she let me have my ways in any manner. Anybody have idea where these girls went?
Did a business search once and found a name, maybe can locate. Oh how do miss so much.Maybe I am going crazy. What are you talking about. your report is very bizare. The girls went back to korea I guess.
Everyone is talking about our sadness at the demise of Osaka and whether it might ever reopen.
If anyone has the stones to go ask, the owner is:
Kyoung S Kim, a fine gentleman, who lives in Westchase, also owns Abe's Food Market in Tampa. He also owns Tampa Fashion And Men's Wear Inc, located a few convenient blocks from Osaka.
A simple search of Sunbiz.org (the division of corporation's website) provides his name as the registered agent for all three businesses. And his DUI arrest record has him as Abe's president and gives the same address as is listed for him on Osaka's ownership.
Amazing what you can unearth in a few minutes of browsing.
If you'd like to see Mr. Kim you can check out his DUI arrest record:
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=05049609
Maybe someone can pop over to Abe's and ask if he is thinking about reopening soon.
Of course these spas are reputed to be run by mafiosi.
Me, I'll pass.
Just trying to help.
Everyone is talking about our sadness at the demise of Osaka and whether it might ever reopen.
If anyone has the stones to go ask the owner is:
Kyoung S Kim, a fine gentleman who also owns Abe's Food Market in Tampa. A simple search of Sunbiz.org (the division of corporation's website) provides his name and address as the registered agent for both businesses. Amazing what you can unearth in a few minutes of browsing.
If you'd like to see Mr. Kim you can check out his DUI arrest record:
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=05049609
Maybe someone can pop over to Abe's and ask if he is thinking about reopening soon.
Me, I'll pass.
Just trying to help.Amp, being a registered agent for a corporation does not necessarily mean that person owns the corporation or business. A registered agent, for purposes of the state and the company, is the contact person for legal service and the person to whom official mail is to be sent to. Often, a registered agent is an attorney for the corporation (if it's big enough to pay one for the service), a member of the board of a corporation (often the case in small incorporated homeowner's associations, or in smaller businesses it might be a trusted friend. However, in doing a Sunbiz.org search, it turns out that Mr. Kim is a director and the registered agent is Sin Yo,after looking at the filed documents available for the corporation. I always thought her name was Sun Yo but perhaps it's Sin Yo, but I'd wager that the owner of the business was and is, in fact, Sin Yo. Providing the information, however, about Sunbiz.org is a service to members of the forum because it gives them a source to find out lots of information that is in the public domain about this and other businesses.
Jaloochapurr
03-01-07, 16:52
Everyone is talking about our sadness at the demise of Osaka and whether it might ever reopen.
If anyone has the stones to go ask the owner is:
Kyoung S Kim, a fine gentleman who also owns Abe's Food Market in Tampa. A simple search of Sunbiz.org (the division of corporation's website) provides his name and address as the registered agent for both businesses. Amazing what you can unearth in a few minutes of browsing.
If you'd like to see Mr. Kim you can check out his DUI arrest record:
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=05049609
Maybe someone can pop over to Abe's and ask if he is thinking about reopening soon.
Me, I'll pass.
Just trying to help.Why not, will go over there and ask.
TremontTeddy
03-01-07, 19:53
The current lineup up at Sunshine is Yo-Yo and Abi. Had a session with Yo-Yo and saw Abi in the hall. The Mamasan is also very attractive but I’ve never gotten more then a TS from her.
$$ plus house fee will get you the works. I’m sure its possible to get if for a little less.
My review of Yo-YO: 5'-2", 100 pounds, sexy outfits, small perky tits & shaved monkey. Decent massage, CBJ, multi positions, & no kissing. YMMV
It’s a decent option but a little to pricey for my wallet. For that kinda money you can walk into any strip club and probably get take-out service. But those Korean girls do know how to please a guy.
TT
Sunshine is my favorite, but fees keep me away lately. Sarah is mamasan, I have had her two or three times. Great body, but no real connection between us. Also she always demands $$. She closes her eyes once the fs starts. Bebe was my favorite imhop th best. The cheapest I have had girls there is 120. But it has become rarer and rarer.
Chronicsex
03-12-07, 19:29
Where is this Sunshine place?
Sunshine is on Westshore about 2/3 of the way to Gandy.
Does anyone have a number for Sunshine?
Thanks
TremontTeddy
03-13-07, 19:59
Sunshine is my favorite, but fees keep me away lately. Sarah is mamasan, I have had her two or three times. Great body, but no real connection between us. Also she always demands $$. She closes her eyes once the fs starts. Bebe was my favorite imhop th best. The cheapest I have had girls there is 120. But it has become rarer and rarer.
I've been wanting to get my hands on Sarah's big knockers for some time, maybe next time....
TT
On several recent trips I found myself in Pasco County. I noticed a fair number of massages places in Hudson, Land O Lakes and the main highway inbetween these places.
Does anyone know - are these Asian places or something else?
Member #4167
03-14-07, 16:21
On several recent trips I found myself in Pasco County. I noticed a fair number of massages places in Hudson, Land O Lakes and the main highway inbetween these places.
Does anyone know - are these Asian places or something else?Land O' Lakes? Really? Anyone know how long they've been there? I live nearby, you see.
Chase Star
03-14-07, 19:47
Does anyone have a number for SunshineDid you try google or the yellow pages? Here is what I came up with in a quick search: (813) 832-4648
California Kid
03-14-07, 21:13
I went to Sunshine today, BIG THANK YOU to TremontTeddy for the 411. I can’t say that I liked the parking lot. I prefer an AMP that has parking in the back or streets that I can park on and walk to the AMP from. Luckily I was able to get in when there was a lull in traffic. Was met by the Mamasan and gave her the house fee. She showed me to my room and asked me to undress and then led me to the steam bath. After about 10 minutes the door opened and I met Eve. 5’4’ very dark skin fake breasts. The massage was horrible. It was more her running her hands all over than anything else. The girl should at least try I mean what was my house fee for anyway?? After the flip discussed the tip $$. Good CBJ, on to multiple positions. No kissing, but not an issue as she had horrible smokers breath. After we were done small talk ensued. She will be around for another month. She usually works in New York and Hawaii said this was the first time in FL. Which makes me wonder is there an AMP circuit? It would explain why you never seem to see the same girl twice. Anyway I would rate her 6 to 7 on the looks (I really liked her tanned body), a 1 on massage and a 6 on service. I have had better, but then who hasn’t?
Oh yeah hello to the other monger who was there in a rental car, the mustang. I am assuming you read about Sunshine here so I hope you post!! :-)
Kid
On several recent trips I found myself in Pasco County. I noticed a fair number of massages places in Hudson, Land O Lakes and the main highway inbetween these places.
Does anyone know - are these Asian places or something else?
I did leave a review of one crap place in Hudson, probably in another string if that's what it's called. I think the name is Paradise Spa. One of the owner's posted a few times saying he thought it was a great place.
Spaceman Spiff
03-15-07, 13:31
I did leave a review of one crap place in Hudson, probably in another string if that's what it's called. I think the name is Paradise Spa. One of the owner's posted a few times saying he thought it was a great place.
I tried that out on my recent Tampa area trip. I thought it was an interesting operation. Technically they pitch it as a nudist club, and that's really all you get -- a nude girl in a room with you, who doesn't mind if you touch yourself, or maybe her boobs. They didn't deliver anything more than was promised -- however everyone was very upfront and pleasant, and the girl was very interesting. She was new and nervous, but I got the distinct feeling that we hit it off well enough that I could have leveraged it into a bit more the next visit. (I never got back to the area however). Once I figured out what was and wasn't going to happen, I found it a pleasant enough hour.
Spaceman Spiff
Legalize it
03-15-07, 22:55
It sounds like you are talking about that place called Dusk Til Dawn in Hudson. A girl told me she used to work there and it sucks. You don't get anything for your money. I wouldn't waste my time.
Has anyone met the "International Goddess" named Lisa? She advertises with her picture in Creative Loafing every week in the massages section. The ad is a business address on U.S. 19 in Clearwater.
I tried that out on my recent Tampa area trip. I thought it was an interesting operation. Technically they pitch it as a nudist club, and that's really all you get -- a nude girl in a room with you, who doesn't mind if you touch yourself, or maybe her boobs. They didn't deliver anything more than was promised -- however everyone was very upfront and pleasant, and the girl was very interesting. She was new and nervous, but I got the distinct feeling that we hit it off well enough that I could have leveraged it into a bit more the next visit. (I never got back to the area however). Once I figured out what was and wasn't going to happen, I found it a pleasant enough hour.
Spaceman Spiff
You got more than I did Commander Spiff. I had to tip a lot to get her nude and it was no touching without another big tip and it ended up being a very short hour. More like lingerie modeling than anything else.
TremontTeddy
03-18-07, 15:03
A stroll down memory lane:
Judy- you’re pretty hot for 47, I had u pegged for 30. We had a pretty good run.
Penny- at first I wasn’t impressed, but your warm caring service grew on me.
Lisa- the last Osaka girl I saw, after the bust & before they finally closed.
Kandy- I remember you dyed red hair, what’s up with that?
Anna- you’re hot but always booked with another customer.
Sunny- everything was always on the menu & you were always ready to please.
Tina- you were always on some type of extended vacation but when I got my hand on you it was always a great time!
Mimi- you got some pretty bad reviews here, tried you once and you meet the minimum requirements of an “Osaka” experience.
Mamasan- you ran a good establishment for the average Joe. I enjoyed your odd sense of humor & words of wisdom (the ones I could understand).
TT
Swing Club
03-18-07, 17:48
Has anybody tried the Suki Spa? There's an old friend working there. She said to stop by.
Has anybody tried the Suki Spa? There's an old friend working there. She said to stop by.There used to be a girl who called herself "June" who worked at Suki.
I first met her at Nagoya. After she moved to Suki I visited whenever possible. She gave me the type service I like better than any AMP girl I ever knew.
One day I went there and she was no longer there. Of course none of the other girls knew where she went, or at least wouldn't tell. In fact they denied even knowing her.
I sure would like to find her again.
At least one more bust on Wednesday 3/21 for being an unlicensed provider. It's not an easy life for the AMPs for sure.
Hard Working 19
03-22-07, 14:17
Magic Spa on Kennedy again.........
At least one more bust on Wednesday 3/21 for being an unlicensed provider. It's not an easy life for the AMPs for sure.
TremontTeddy
03-22-07, 19:11
At least one more bust on Wednesday 3/21 for being an unlicensed provider. It's not an easy life for the AMPs for sure.
Looks like there was also a charge of prostitution. Bond for unlicensed massage was $2000 and bond for prostitution $250, go figure.
You can find the arrest record on HCSO website,
TT
Cheesy Rider
03-22-07, 21:01
The officer probably got the same service I did after 15 minutes.
"OK we done now. You go home".
I remember when I used to complain after being pushed out the door after 45 minutes at an AMP. Those were the good old days.
Hey, Just wondering if Sunshine is still going ok? I am thinking about making a stop there this weekend. And I know its going south on westshore towards Gandy but any of the intersections around it you guys can tell me?
Hey just wondering if everything was good still with Sunshine. I was thinking about making a stop there this weekend. And I know its south on westshore before Gandy but any intersections around it that you guys can tell me?
Jaloochapurr
03-22-07, 22:30
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=07018761
Rjinstpete
03-22-07, 23:28
Hollar, yong Hui
Hard Working 19
03-28-07, 18:03
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2007/3/28/234856.html
A bill before the Florida legislature would make it a third-degree felony for an owner of a strip club or massage parlor to allow prostitution on the premises.
The bill would also give whistleblower status to employees who report their bosses for breaking the law, meaning they could not be retaliated against.
"I'm sure that we would learn much more about it if people were encouraged to come forward and be given some protection to come forward," said Rep. Dorothy Hukill (R-Port Orange), who sponsored the bill. "It's very difficult to come forward, especially when you've been in a situation when you're coerced and you're intimidated."
An employee who blows the whistle on a massage parlor or strip club would be offered one-third of the value of any seized assets if there's a conviction.
If a strip club or massage parlor owner is convicted of a third-degree felony they could serve up to five years in prison.
An employee who blows the whistle on a massage parlor or strip club would be offered one-third of the value of any seized assets if there's a conviction.
Yep, but it might not do them much good while wearing cement shoes in the bottom of Hillsborough Bay.
A bill before the Florida legislature would make it a third-degree felony for an owner of a strip club or massage parlor to allow prostitution on the premises.
The bill would also give whistleblower status to employees who report their bosses for breaking the law, meaning they could not be retaliated against.
"I'm sure that we would learn much more about it if people were encouraged to come forward and be given some protection to come forward," said Rep. Dorothy Hukill (R-Port Orange), who sponsored the bill. "It's very difficult to come forward, especially when you've been in a situation when you're coerced and you're intimidated."
An employee who blows the whistle on a massage parlor or strip club would be offered one-third of the value of any seized assets if there's a conviction.
What is a 3rd degree felony?
A few signs saying "Prostitution is not allowed" and having all the employees sign no-prostitution pledges would probably solve that.
As far as being encouraged to come forward read that as "intimidated to say that prostitution occurred with the knowledge of the owners or managers". (Probably girls who were busted and threatened by the cops.)
And what is there worth seizing? A little cash that probably won't travel that far down the food chain and some "furniture and fixtures".
What is a 3rd degree felony?
A few signs saying "Prostitution is not allowed" and having all the employees sign no-prostitution pledges would probably solve that.
As far as being encouraged to come forward read that as "intimidated to say that prostitution occurred with the knowledge of the owners or managers". (Probably girls who were busted and threatened by the cops.)
And what is there worth seizing? A little cash that probably won't travel that far down the food chain and some "furniture and fixtures".
There was a recent situation in Winter Haven recently, where girls were working out of mom/pop motels, owners were arrested for allowing prostitution to occur, and according to newspaper article, authorities were going to seize the motel property, I would assume under the RICO act.
There was a recent situation in Winter Haven recently, where girls were working out of mom/pop motels, owners were arrested for allowing prostitution to occur, and according to newspaper article, authorities were going to seize the motel property, I would assume under the RICO act.Tampa tried that a few years ago with the hot sheet motels on east Hillsborough. It went nowhere, particularly after several owners proved willing to fight it. This looks like Polk County trying the same crap. Here's a link with the story.
http://www.topix.net/content/trb/1340452546362333300506686213574034131872
I swear, LE must pass around ideas like this, and no one ever checks to see how effective they were in the last place they were tried.
John Kelly
03-30-07, 13:44
One thing that surprises me, is that with the large hispanic population in this state and the willingness of some to work hard for pretty low wages, why aren't there any hispanic massage parlors? You would think that the money made in such a place would be a strong incentive to engage in such work. Do you think the lack of interest is an effect of the Catholic religion, or is there some other repressing factor? I find it strange.
The Chronic
03-31-07, 13:53
One thing that surprises me, is that with the large hispanic population in this state and the willingness of some to work hard for pretty low wages, why aren't there any hispanic massage parlors? You would think that the money made in such a place would be a strong incentive to engage in such work. Do you think the lack of interest is an effect of the Catholic religion, or is there some other repressing factor? I find it strange.In the more rural areas, there are busts all the time of trailer park ***** houses where illegals live.
But why would you bother?
Tampa, Florida - Tampa Police conducted an undercover operation yesterday and arrested three men at two Asian massage parlors. Officers said the Bangkok Health Club and the Magic Health Club, both on West Kennedy, allowed prostitution to take place in their business and operated without a license.
The Criminal Intelligence Bureau says the spas were using massage advertising as a legitimate way to attract customers for prostitution.
Undercover detectives say they faced difficulty building prostitution cases against these businesses in the past. This time they say they developed felony cases because the businesses were operating without the proper licenses through the Florida Department of Health.
The Florida Department of Health, the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and the State Attorney's Office worked with the Tampa Police Department's Criminal Intelligence Bureau to conduct the undercover operation.
The operation also resulted in a cash seizure of $2,660 from the Bangkok Health Club Massage and $2,570 from the Magic Health Spa.
Officers arrested Sun Deog Lee and Mi Suk Radau of the Bangkok Health Club Massage and Ji Young Park of the Magic Health Spa. An immigration hold has also been placed on Lee.
There was a recent situation in Winter Haven recently, where girls were working out of mom/pop motels, owners were arrested for allowing prostitution to occur, and according to newspaper article, authorities were going to seize the motel property, I would assume under the RICO act.
If it's a motel or even a car the police won't sieze something that's got a mortgage or a loan on it. It's one thing to mess with an ordinary citizen, another thing to take something that belongs to the pillar of western civilization, a bank. I would guess that Mom and Pop Patel have good credit and a big mortgage.
Dodger Bulldog
04-01-07, 01:31
In the more rural areas, there are busts all the time of trailer park ***** houses where illegals live.
But why would you bother?Why demean another man's preference? Many of us love the Latinas.
To each his own.
DB
Magic is supposed to be reopened with a licensed provider.
Wow, I just read the report about Magic being busted. I was there in late March a couple of times on business and saw Penny. Not great up close because of complexion issues, but very nice body and a nice rack. First time she was a little more cautious, but a great table shower with lots of touching then onto the room for the massage. lots of touching again to let me know there was more to the menu and my response must have clued her in I wasn't a cop. she finally asked what else and we just did HJ, but it included a nice rim job and her totally naked in 69 position while she finished me off.
Second time, she recognized me so we got rolling pretty quickly with a lot more touching during the table shower and massage. This time I felt like getting a BJ, which wasn't great in itself, but there was so much else going on with both of us fingering each others backsides, russian, etc. that i didn't even care about the mildly "teethy" bj. she washed me off again, dressed me and that's it. I was already looking forward to my next trip to tampa.
First night: 80/60
Second night: 80/80 and both worth every penny.
The Chronic
04-05-07, 09:09
why demean another man's preference? many of us love the latinas.
to each his own.
dbfurther research would show that almost to a person, the women in these trailer park "houses of ill repute" are virtual slaves, often ****, forced to take drugs, doing-in one case in immokalee-as many as 25 men a day, 7 days a week.
pay day in the fields must have been a b!+<h for those gals.
i mean, why bother? yes, i might demean a guys preference for ^^^that^^^. we all should. the more up-front and legitimate the industry, the less it would have to operate in the shadows.
p.s. i love latinas, too. just not drugged-up ****d sex slaves for illegal aliens.
Hardwood123
04-05-07, 11:36
This bust happened last august. What is the point?
Tampa, Florida - Tampa Police conducted an undercover operation yesterday and arrested three men at two Asian massage parlors. Officers said the Bangkok Health Club and the Magic Health Club, both on West Kennedy, allowed prostitution to take place in their business and operated without a license.
The Criminal Intelligence Bureau says the spas were using massage advertising as a legitimate way to attract customers for prostitution.
Undercover detectives say they faced difficulty building prostitution cases against these businesses in the past. This time they say they developed felony cases because the businesses were operating without the proper licenses through the Florida Department of Health.
The Florida Department of Health, the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and the State Attorney's Office worked with the Tampa Police Department's Criminal Intelligence Bureau to conduct the undercover operation.
The operation also resulted in a cash seizure of $2,660 from the Bangkok Health Club Massage and $2,570 from the Magic Health Spa.
Officers arrested Sun Deog Lee and Mi Suk Radau of the Bangkok Health Club Massage and Ji Young Park of the Magic Health Spa. An immigration hold has also been placed on Lee.
Any word on Osaka's? I live about an hour north of Tampa and would like to know if I should make the drive. My last visit to Tampa was to Yoshiko and it wasn't near the service I could get from Osaka's for the $$$ anyway.
Any word on a reopening? I live an hr north of Tampa and want to know if I should make the drive.
Chase Star
04-06-07, 07:25
One thing that surprises me, is that with the large hispanic population in this state and the willingness of some to work hard for pretty low wages, why aren't there any hispanic massage parlors? You would think that the money made in such a place would be a strong incentive to engage in such work. Do you think the lack of interest is an effect of the Catholic religion, or is there some other repressing factor? I find it strange.
In the more rural areas, there are busts all the time of trailer park ***** houses where illegals live.
But why would you bother?
Why demean another man's preference? Many of us love the Latinas.
To each his own.
DB
I've been busting on Chronic in another thread but even I have to support what he posted about many of the whorehouses in immigrant communities particularly in rural areas with migrant farmworkers. Where is that guy Newbie when you finally really need him? This issue was always his pet cause.
I Had a little "Ray of Sunshine" yesterday.
Was greeted by "Jeannie/ Jinny/ Genie". Nice tall, long legged lass. Opted for 1 hour for 80. Nice shower, good massage, and decent extras.
Her name must have been "Genie", because at the end of the session, "POOF"!, my load was lighter, but so was my wallet, by 2 Benjamins!
BB foreplay, CBJ, multiple positions, all covered of course, no rushing. The only odd thing was, when going doggie, tried to thumb the brown eye, but I coudn't find it!! It was like it didn't exist! I had to do a reach around to make sure I was in the front door, because the back door seemed non existant. I finally found it, but so small & tight that I doubt a fart could slip from it.
All in all a very nice session, just too damn pricey! I do believe I'll give Magic a whirl the next time, while still waiting for Osaka to reopen.
Tampahunter
04-06-07, 11:37
To Roach and others inquiring about Osaka. I drive by a few times a week as an alternate on way home from work. Familiar "Open" neon sign hasn't been on in months. Even pulled into back lot to see if anyone would show up at the back door on a lark this past week. Nothing. As a major regular there, I am still disappointed. I'll keep checking and hoping, relaying any truly new info. if there is some.
I don't think anybody is really sold on going to the immigrant trailer camps.
Moreover, I too adhere to the "but why would you bother" manta as well.
I think what John Kelly was addressing was some possible locations, perhaps other than the migrant camp areas.
Approx 5-6 yrs ago, there was a home in a residential area, behind where Syms department store is now located on Hills Ave. regular home.
Full of 5-8 central american girls/women. El Sal, Honduras, Guatemala...
It was word of mouth in locating it. $25-$30 for 1/2 hr.
Last year I met a Mexican construction worker in a local bar.
He gave me the number of a spainish guy, who had a stable of latin chicas...
Would drop them off at yr home or hotel.
Needless to say, I didn't get a chance to experience this one. He was hard to communicate with, and I think a little leery of talking to a gringo he didn't know over the fone.
Anyway, I wish I could find another place like that house. I gotta believe there are a few, but on the hush-hush, in west tampa area.
I'll keep looking !
eric7
To Roach and others inquiring about Osaka. I drive by a few times a week as an alternate on way home from work. Familiar "Open" neon sign hasn't been on in months. Even pulled into back lot to see if anyone would show up at the back door on a lark this past week. Nothing. As a major regular there, I am still disappointed. I'll keep checking and hoping, relaying any truly new info. if there is some.
Phone goes unanswered as well.
Phone goes unanswered as well.The only spa the Osaka owner now has is Yoshiko on W. Kennedy. I don't think Osaka will reopen any time soon, if ever.
Cheesy Rider
04-10-07, 00:29
I need some advice from the more experienced AMP users out there. What would be the recommended way of getting a two-girl table shower without paying full price for another girl? I have not had any luck in that pursuit. Personally, I would say it's worth no more than a $10 tip. Should I ask the mamasan at the window first?
Tampahunter
04-14-07, 12:16
Two girl was always hit and miss; Osaka was good for the after-shower two girl if it wasn't too busy. Asking mamsan is best bet. Enough about Osaka though; dead issue anymore. Any reports on the places left open would be helpful. I see Sunshine on Westshore is the only ad in the Trib. anymore other than Aromatherapy Goddess. No location for her though. Japanese spa on Kennedy was always good for HJ, but never more. Bangkok was way to pricey. Any recent experiences out there?
Vetteman35
04-14-07, 12:50
Pine Tree on 66th. A few of the "Four Seasons" girls are there so you know what kinds of services are offered. The place is very clean and had a great unrushed massagie.
Enjoy,
Vet
Pine Tree on 66th. A few of the "Four Seasons" girls are there so you know what kinds of services are offered. The place is very clean and had a great unrushed massagie.
Enjoy,
Vet
Where is it?
John Kelly
04-14-07, 23:14
This looks like the one:
Pine Tree Spa
11151 66th Street
Saint Petersburg, FL 33701
727-546-0509
Where is it?Pinellas county - south of Ulmerton
Cheesy Rider
04-15-07, 11:54
I've been to Magic Spa and Seven Star Spa within the last few weeks and both provide VERY brief service but you better bring $$.
Nagoya Spa a month ago had no extras offered.
I noticed the Japan Spa on Kennedy expanded but haven't been inside since then.
I might try Oxygen Spa again. There's no chance of extras but at least I always got a longer massage with a happy beginning and an ending.
Anybody been to the Golden Spa in Tampa yet?
I might try Oxygen Spa again. There's no chance of extras but at least I always got a longer massage with a happy beginning and an ending.
This may sound funny, but what is a "happy beginning"? Is it what I think it is? LOL
A "two-fer" perhaps?
BladeRunner007
04-15-07, 15:46
In Clearwater / St. Pete @ 66th street and Bryan Dairy Rd.
Where is it?
Thanks for the update guys. I was down just the other day and decided to drive by. Sad to say it was still closed. I've been trying to read thru the posts to figure out the best alternate but it seems it's all over the board. Which place would everyone agree is the best for the least money?
Which place would everyone agree is the best for the least money?
I think the days of bargains like we used to enjoy on Hillsborough Ave are gone forever. Kinda like gasoline at under $2 per gallon. We'll NEVER see it again.
I think the days of bargains like we used to enjoy on Hillsborough Ave are gone forever. Kinda like gasoline at under $2 per gallon. We'll NEVER see it again.It's starting to look that way.
Stickerman
04-16-07, 12:41
Anyone tried the new Hide Away spa?
Cheesy Rider
04-16-07, 19:22
This may sound funny, but what is a "happy beginning"? Is it what I think it is? LOL
A "two-fer" perhaps?
You would be correct. I like to start relaxed and end it that way too. Kinda hard to complete the second one when the massage only lasts 15 minutes or so.
Legalize it
04-16-07, 22:40
Pine Tree on 66th. A few of the "Four Seasons" girls are there so you know what kinds of services are offered. The place is very clean and had a great unrushed massagie.
Enjoy,
VetCould you tell us what the ladies looked like?
In Clearwater / St. Pete @ 66th street and Bryan Dairy Rd.
Just north of the overpass on the east? There's been some bad reports on THAT place in here including one from me. Maybe I'll check it out again.
I went yesterday. Girls were best looking this side of sunshine. They asked if I had a membership card. When I said no, they were a little hesitant to let me in. First session was below average. My bit and pieces did not get any attention during ts. The girl who gave massage would not tell me her name. Slender with smaller tits. She wanted 3 benjies for HJ, I negotiated 2 benjies. After that she warmed up a bit. Said BJ would be 80. Had me fill out membership card. (they keep it). Hope I remember what name I used if I ever return. Might just to see if service gets better with card.
Mike Wazowski
04-17-07, 17:16
I went yesterday. Girls were best looking this side of sunshine. They asked if I had a membership card. When I said no, they were a little hesitant to let me in. First session was below average. My bit and pieces did not get any attention during ts. The girl who gave massage would not tell me her name. Slender with smaller tits. She wanted 3 benjies for HJ, I negotiated 2 benjies. After that she warmed up a bit. Said BJ would be 80. Had me fill out membership card. (they keep it). Hope I remember what name I used if I ever return. Might just to see if service gets better with card.
I think you might be getting your Andrews confused with your Benjamins. 300 asked for a HJ would only be slightly more crazy than settling on paying 200.
I gotta stop talking in code. Or at least pay more attention to currency. You are correct. I meant Jacksons. Don't ever trust me at the currency exchange counter while crossing international borders.
I tried it when Four Seasons took a dive a couple of years ago. It went by the name of Shiatsu (sp? ) at the time. It was a complete disappointment. I went on a wild tour of the area trying to find a replacement for the Four Seasons, with very little success. I finally had to cross the bay to Yoshiko for any of the same treatment. Alas, I had to part with more time, gas and Jacksons for the pleasure.
The old Four Seasons had a card system with a free massage after 10 paid. I think it was a form of security for them. They wanted a referall name the first time I went. I just gave them a name of a friend of mine who had been to jail. Figured it was better than giving them XXXXXXXX name. As far as the card went, all you had to do was create a work of fiction. And, as Amp pointed out, remember it. It never created a problem of any kind for me. I got lucky, it closed right after my second freebie, not before. I would have been pissed if I hadn't been able to take advantage of the "buy 10, get one free" deal.
So I was encouraged when I heard that some of the old Four Seasons staff was at Pine Tree. I tried to stop in for a while, but always found it closed. Then a bad review here kind of left me cold. Could be they are playing it safe. I went to the Four Seasons so often I got to know some of the staff regulars. If Kelly, Jennifer, Perry or LuLu are there, I would appreciate a heads up. They were all pretty, friendly, and able to speak English far better than the average Korean masseuse.
Prof Self Help
04-20-07, 23:02
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2007/3/28/234856.html
A bill before the Florida legislature would make it a third-degree felony for an owner of a strip club or massage parlor to allow prostitution on the premises.
The bill would also give whistleblower status to employees who report their bosses for breaking the law, meaning they could not be retaliated against.
"I'm sure that we would learn much more about it if people were encouraged to come forward and be given some protection to come forward," said Rep. Dorothy Hukill (R-Port Orange), who sponsored the bill. "It's very difficult to come forward, especially when you've been in a situation when you're coerced and you're intimidated."
An employee who blows the whistle on a massage parlor or strip club would be offered one-third of the value of any seized assets if there's a conviction.
If a strip club or massage parlor owner is convicted of a third-degree felony they could serve up to five years in prison.Rid the state of the scourge of prostitution. We can then be sure that prostitution has been wiped out from the state of Florida. Ha Ha Ha ! Should I cry or should I laugh - dont know.
Tampahunter
04-21-07, 11:41
Against my better judgement, tried the Japanese spa on Kennedy Thursday. Took 5 minutes for someone to come to the window. Real hot girl, but she said they were full, no one available. One other car in the lot at the time.
Went down McDill and couldn't find Golden Touch at all.
Been working pretty hard lately and decided to go get a massage last Tuesday night. First, went to the AMP just west of I-275 on Busch, next to Primative. Same old korean lady that was there six months ago and gave me a terrible massage, so I decided to hit Kennedy Blvd. instead.
The Yoshiko had an approx. 30-minute wait so I drove the Yokohama on Dale Mabry. There was an approx. 30-minute wait at the Yokohama also. Therefore, I drove to the Oxygen Spa on Kennedy where there was no wait. Got assigned a decent looking korean lady in her mid to late 40's. She said the usual "$60 for half hour or $80 for full hour. I chose the full-hour deal.
Her attitude was not very good, and the massage was severely lacking. After exactly 29 minutes (I discreetly kept time with my cellphone) she said "ok, the massage is over, time for you to go." Mind you, I was a complete gentleman and very respectful of the lady prior to that. I asked her if a "happy ending" was on the menu and she reluctantly obliged with a terrible HJ. Anyways, as I was leaving she started complaining because I hadn't gave her a tip.
Things have went downhill fast here in Tampa lately. I am usually very generous with tips, but just can't seem to justify giving a tip for an hour massage that lasted about 1/2 of that. It seems that the majority of these AMP ladies have no ethics at all. Not even providing the full hour as agreed upon is egregious to say the least.
Guys, we have to quit giving these ladies tips for bad service. Otherwise, the probems will continue and the service will get worse.
Regards,
Toeman
Anyone here EVER been able to get anything more than HJ at either J-Spa on Kennedy or Yokohama on Dale Mabry?
I'm told nothing else available at any price; but I know everything has a price.
I live in this board but have never posted.
I spend time learning from the best of you, so I felt the need to report this to my fellow hobbyist!
Stay away from exposed p
LE at exposed drew-p
Got big time busted!
Just a warning?
Vetteman35
04-24-07, 17:37
I was in the area around 1pm Monday afternoon and saw a ton of police activity about a block away from xposed. Not sure what was going on, but they were NOT at xposed.
Tampahunter
04-24-07, 19:40
Tried Japanese spa on Kennedy again last night; 1/2 hour wait. Went next door to a new place, can't remember name, same story. J-Spa on Gandy wasn't open even though neons were on. Finally went to Nagoya. Actually not half bad. Decent enough girl, Jay was her name. Attentive, happy ending without asking. Didn't inquire about extras.
http://www.vanessastouch.com/
Somewhere on this site (O'town are maybe) is a complete (tho short) thread specifically about her. Apparently she emailed Jackson and Ordered/Instructed/Requested NOTHING be posted here about her and anything that came up was to be deleted immediately. So of course he dedicated a forum to her. My Kinda Man!
Nemo
I posted the note below and was surprised it came up immediately. It seems as I have reached Senior Member Status. Yeahh Me!!!
OK Gents, when and where is my graduation party, who is buying me drinks and entertainment all evening.
Nemo
Maybe some of the Girls should give you a party. That would be fitting. Anyway congrats.
Jethrow
http://www.vanessastouch.com/I've seen her before. If you want AN INCREDIBLE massage, she is it. I know of only one other girl that will rub you any better and I'm NOT going to tell you who she is. :) You aren't going to get FS and she'll get pissed if you even ask. You will get an HR though.
Great girl and great attitude
Mike Wazowski
04-25-07, 16:25
I've seen her before. If you want AN INCREDIBLE massage, she is it. I know of only one other girl that will rub you any better and I'm NOT going to tell you who she is. :) You aren't going to get FS and she'll get pissed if you even ask. You will get an HR though.
Great girl and great attitude
If I want an incredible massage, I'll pay $60 an hour to the licensed massage therapist that I see for massages. She's hotter than any escort I've seen but she leaves her clothes on and there is no sexual contact what so ever. But it's a massage I'm seeking when I see her, so why should I care?
My question would be why in God's name would anyone pay escort rates for a massage? Any number of licensed massage therapists are available at $50-$60 an hour.
Tampa Monger
04-25-07, 16:45
If I want an incredible massage, I'll pay $60 an hour to the licensed massage therapist that I see for massages. She's hotter than any escort I've seen but she leaves her clothes on and there is no sexual contact what so ever. But it's a massage I'm seeking when I see her, so why should I care?
My question would be why in God's name would anyone pay escort rates for a massage? Any number of licensed massage therapists are available at $50-$60 an hour.
I totally agree. I don't understand why guys will pay big bucks for a handjob, even from a hottie. Sorry, but I reserve the big bucks for hotties that get on their knees and let me fill their mouths up with a load (or two).
LE did a sweep on Friday. So far, no reports of busts but hard looks at licenses both for the business as well as for the providers. AMPs were told that they would be revisited.
Toshiosamma
04-30-07, 20:57
Can anyone provide further info on the Friday raid? My girlfriend just agreed to go to Tampa to work for a while, and already bought her plane ticket. Of course I don't want her in this business at all, but as long as she is, I don't want her walking into a trap. I suspect that the raid scared a bunch of girls into leaving town, and the Mamasans put the word out that they needed replacements. My girlfriend's broker didn't tell her anything about the LE activity, just that she could make more money in Tampa.
I've seen her before. If you want AN INCREDIBLE massage, she is it. I know of only one other girl that will rub you any better and I'm NOT going to tell you who she is. :) You aren't going to get FS and she'll get pissed if you even ask. You will get an HR though.
Great girl and great attitude
I would be extremely troubled by any provider that insists on knowing my real name. I understand their motivations for screening, etc. But based on what is happening in DC with Pamela Martin and Assoc, I would hate to be on a list that some provider just kept for "personal records". Vanessa insists on sending an email from a work email address. Perhaps that couldn't get you into trouble. She even says not to mention "massage" in the work email, but I don't want my real name associated in any way. Of course, it only takes 10 minutes to set up a fake email address that looks like "work", but that kind of defeats the point, from her standpoint.
I would be extremely troubled by any provider that insists on knowing my real name. I understand their motivations for screening, etc. But based on what is happening in DC with Pamela Martin and Assoc, I would hate to be on a list that some provider just kept for "personal records". Vanessa insists on sending an email from a work email address. Perhaps that couldn't get you into trouble. She even says not to mention "massage" in the work email, but I don't want my real name associated in any way. Of course, it only takes 10 minutes to set up a fake email address that looks like "work", but that kind of defeats the point, from her standpoint.
Setting up a dummy email addy is not too tough. Abandon at leisure.
One of Pamela Martin and Assoc's main stick-it-to-them points is the list of client phone numbers. That has a lot of "clients" scared. Buy one of those trac phones (or whatever they're called) from a convenience store. Use that number as a monger number. Any heat, toss the phone. Lot cheaper than hiring a lawyer to cover your tracks.
Rjinstpete
05-05-07, 15:37
I just visited Magic Spa again. 80 dollars for an hour with a table shower, just got a new girl from California. Now why is it all these girls are strangers to mouthwash? Other than that, guide her hands and you'll get a great massage, including all those HARD to REACH areas. This girl needed no encouragement near the end of the session to climb on top, and never asked for any cash (I gave her 100 afterwards). Magic spa is west of Dale Mabry on Kennedy (right hand side), just past the McDonalds. If you hit the mall, you went a block too far.
Cheesy Rider
05-05-07, 21:29
I just visited Magic Spa again. 80 dollars for an hour with a table shower, just got a new girl from California. Now why is it all these girls are strangers to mouthwash? Other than that, guide her hands and you'll get a great massage, including all those HARD to REACH areas. This girl needed no encouragement near the end of the session to climb on top, and never asked for any cash (I gave her 100 afterwards). Magic spa is west of Dale Mabry on Kennedy (right hand side), just past the McDonalds. If you hit the mall, you went a block too far.
If she straddled the saddle and rode the pony, you got a pretty good deal for 100 roses. I know what you mean. Listerine hasn't made it to Korea yet.
I just visited Magic Spa again. 80 dollars for an hour with a table shower, just got a new girl from California. Now why is it all these girls are strangers to mouthwash? Other than that, guide her hands and you'll get a great massage, including all those HARD to REACH areas. This girl needed no encouragement near the end of the session to climb on top, and never asked for any cash (I gave her 100 afterwards). Magic spa is west of Dale Mabry on Kennedy (right hand side), just past the McDonalds. If you hit the mall, you went a block too far.I went by Majic today at lunch. Parking lot was empty. Signs were off. Note posted on door but I did not pull in to read it.
Anything happen there this week?
I stopped by Japanese Spa on Kennedy today.
I saw Mya. (sp?)
OK TS. OK massage. OK attitude. Everything just OK.
Limited to only the most basic HJ services.
I've never had really great service there. Every time I go there I wonder why I keep going back but I like it because it is clean.
I keep thinking I'll eventually run into a girl who knows what it's all about.
Went to Majic spa yesterday. Joanie (or Jodi) --- terrible massage, terrible attitude, no extras. Left without giving tip. Stay Away!
Tampahunter
05-20-07, 12:18
Stopped at Oxygen Friday night about 8 or so. Got in right away, OK mid-30's gal, good TS and massage. Uneventful HJ. Just trying a few out, so far, no standouts.
Stopped at Oxygen Friday night about 8 or so. Got in right away, OK mid-30's gal, good TS and massage. Uneventful HJ. Just trying a few out, so far, no standouts.I was there last week similar experience . I know if the massage rooms only have curtains i know it only will be a hj . Like 5 yrs ago when it was called japanese spa this place was good nothing like osaka but more than a hj I will stay away .
....Like 5 yrs ago when it was called japanese spa this place was good ....I was going to Japanese Spa 5 years ago when it was in the Oxygen building location. I never had any service worth mentioning.
I did try repeatedly, and I'm a big tipper. No such luck.
I went by again today. Saw "Yumi."
Pretty face.
But, I've never had such rough handling in a TS.
Uninspired massage.
She hurried to get me out the door.
Next time, I'll ask for someone else!
Is Osaka Spa still not in buisness? I went there a few months ago and Mamason met me in the parking lot and said "no girls". Havent heard any mention of them thru here lately either. use to be a great place!
Next time, I'll ask for someone else!
Might be better to GO someplace else...
TremontTeddy
05-31-07, 19:34
Is Osaka Spa still not in buisness? I went there a few months ago and Mamason met me in the parking lot and said "no girls". Havent heard any mention of them thru here lately either. use to be a great place!
I would of tried and gotten the old mamason, but maybe i'm a weirdo....
TT
Is Osaka Spa still not in buisness? I went there a few months ago and Mamason met me in the parking lot and said "no girls". Havent heard any mention of them thru here lately either. use to be a great place!Did a drive by yesterday. Still dark and empty :(
Anyone go to that buritto bus closer to 275 for a burrito? @#!*& That was an AWESOME burrito
Went by Subshine Friday afternoon and saw Ruby. Her first day was Thursday. Came in from Minn.
Sweet young thing mid 20's. Long blk hair and very tight little body.
Very poor massage skills but all other skills were top notch and she is a pleaser.
Have fun
Sunshine has gone downhill. Maybe it was just the one girl. She had no body tone. Crappy massage and horrible HJ. Lead me to believe nothing else was on menu. Kept insisting I saw her last week. I kept saying no. (it has been months since I have been there)
I wanted to get up and leave w/o finishing. I was out in 1/2 hour.
She insisted on using some lotion that had me smelling like a ho for the next few hours. Had to stay out of the hours for several hours just to get the smell to fade away.
Willnot reurn until I hear of better experiences.
TremontTeddy
06-11-07, 19:20
Sunshine has gone downhill. Maybe it was just the one girl. She had no body tone. Crappy massage and horrible HJ. Lead me to believe nothing else was on menu. Kept insisting I saw her last week. I kept saying no. (it has been months since I have been there)
I wanted to get up and leave w/o finishing. I was out in 1/2 hour.
She insisted on using some lotion that had me smelling like a ho for the next few hours. Had to stay out of the hours for several hours just to get the smell to fade away.
Willnot reurn until I hear of better experiences.
I believe Sunshine may be under new management. On the last two visits, Sara the cool young mamasan, was not there. Also the cute young spinners she usually had were also not present. They said Sara was on vacation, in this business that usually means she moved on.
On both visits I had a session with Pinky, not to shabby in the looks department, but no cute young spinner like Yo-Yo.
Sara ran a pretty decent operation; I think she trained all her girls to a specific routine that lead to a full enjoyable hour.
TT
TremontTeddy
06-11-07, 19:37
Made a trip over the bay in my quest to find the void left by Osaka. Had a session with Q, who’s been reviewed a couple times on the St Pete Massage thread. She’s an older attractive lady much like the old ladies of Osaka, so I thought I was in for a good session, no such luck.
60 house fee for 30 minutes and a $1.0 tip for the full monty. Overall a poor performance, but a place I’ll keep on my radar.
TT
Hello Tampa! Might be heading out there over the summer for a short stay and was wondering if there are any AAMPS available and/or recommended?
TIA
Hello Tampa! Might be heading out there over the summer for a short stay and was wondering if there are any AAMPS available and/or recommended?
TIA
Check the last 15pages of this forum and you will find an enormous amount of data that is part of 2007 action.
Check the last 15pages of this forum and you will find an enormous amount of data that is part of 2007 action.
Well, actually my post was titled AAMPS not AMPS. All I've found mentioned was AMPS. I was wondering if you folks had any good AAMPS.
Chase Star
06-13-07, 20:41
Well, actually my post was titled AAMPS not AMPS. All I've found mentioned was AMPS. I was wondering if you folks had any good AAMPS.
This ain't the West Coast, Las Vegas or even East Coast cities like NY or Boston with large Asian immigrant populations. You see very few if any Asian provider ads in CL, Weekly Planet, Night Moves or any of the other traditional media outlets for Tampa. If you haven't seen anything about a bunch of Korean or any other Asian women operating out of an apartment in this or similar forums anywhere in the Tampa Bay area, there is probably a reason. Of course there may be something operating way under the radar that I don't know about (I'm certainly no expert), particularly as AAMPs tend to be much more discrete than their storefront counterparts any way. However, I somehow don't think that so many of our local brothers would be frequenting our current crop of AMPs with their overpriced CBJ's and such or still mourning the loss of the Osaka AMP if there was something else better out there.
OTOH, if there IS some AAMP out there with decent quality Asian women and reasonable prices, I would hope that we handle it a lot more discretely than we handled Osaka and share the info backchannel through PMs between established posters rather than bringing it to the attention of our over zealous local law enforcement personnel and the puritanical southern bible thumpers that push them to action.
Well, actually my post was titled AAMPS not AMPS. All I've found mentioned was AMPS. I was wondering if you folks had any good AAMPS.
And the difference would be???? BFD!
And the difference would be???? BFD!
Only main difference is one is a storefront that usually offer a 50-50 chance on a good and usually overpriced experience and the other is an apartment filled with eager FS Asian girls that offer no pretense about you getting a massage.
OTOH, if there IS some AAMP out there with decent quality Asian women and reasonable prices, I would hope that we handle it a lot more discretely than we handled Osaka and share the info backchannel through PMs between established posters rather than bringing it to the attention of our over zealous local law enforcement personnel and the puritanical southern bible thumpers that push them to action.That's what I was hoping to see but I can see your points on all accounts - lack of Asian providers and the LEO/Morals thing.
Of course we all know that once they rid the country of this heinous crime, flowers will be blooming, rainbows will be brighter and the world will sing a happy song in unison.
Thanks folks, for the info (and the names of your reading materials) - just thought I would take a shot!
Member #3920
06-13-07, 22:21
Only main difference is one is a storefront that usually offer a 50-50 chance on a good and usually overpriced experience and the other is an apartment filled with eager FS Asian girls that offer no pretense about you getting a massage.
Coming from LA, I can tell you that AAMP's are abundant in the San Gabriel Valley of Los Angeles where there is a substantial Korean and Chinese population. I have not seen or heard of any AAMP's in Central Florida, but would be happy if I did.
Coming from LA, I can tell you that AAMP's are abundant in the San Gabriel Valley of Los Angeles where there is a substantial Korean and Chinese population. I have not seen or heard of any AAMP's in Central Florida, but would be happy if I did.
Ever try Mimi of "Fire&Ice" fame in Alhambra a few years back? Wow...
Member #3920
06-14-07, 20:30
Ever try Mimi of "Fire&Ice" fame in Alhambra a few years back? Wow...
I did a couple of fire and ice sessions at a couple of the Alhambra aamps about two-three years ago. They were something else! There was another one in WLA, Ji Young, who did it with very cold vanilla ice cream.....
Gonna be in Tampa Sunday. Can someone PM me a good place to go now that Osaka is staying closed (I guess anyway).
Quite a surprise to see Osaka advertising in today's newspaper.
The Fat Guy
06-25-07, 10:06
Quite a surprise to see Osaka advertising in today's newspaper.
Just when I thought my Busch Gardens annual passports would be useless other than Howl-O-Scream discounts, I see this. I had to check the Tribune website to make sure that I was not being led on and was so happy to see the ad for myself. I might finally have a reason to come down to Tampa next month during my vacation.
Enough said about Osaka! - Let's keep this quiet. Tina used to give me a back walk that was amazing!
Dodger Bulldog
06-25-07, 12:40
Enough said about Osaka! - Let's keep this quiet.How are you going to keep it quiet? It was in the frickin' NEWSPAPER, man! Do you think the cops are illiterate? They can't read the paper?
When they drive by the sign will be on and cars will be in the lot. Do you think they won't see because they are blind?
Or what?
Use some analytical reasoning. We can't keep information from the police. They ALWAYS know more about what is going on than the mongers do.
It has been shown many times that busts are not made due to INFORMATION, as the police always have information. They decide to act for POLITICAL reasons, when it best serves their objective for the moment.
Let's not get started on another secrecy binge here. It defeats the purpose of the board and accomplishes absolutely nothing.
DB
How are you going to keep it quiet? It was in the frickin' NEWSPAPER, man! Do you think the cops are illiterate? They can't read the paper?
When they drive by the sign will be on and cars will be in the lot. Do you think they won't see because they are blind?
Or what?
Use some analytical reasoning. We can't keep information from the police. They ALWAYS know more about what is going on than the mongers do.
It has been shown many times that busts are not made due to INFORMATION, as the police always have information. They decide to act for POLITICAL reasons, when it best serves their objective for the moment.
Let's not get started on another secrecy binge here. It defeats the purpose of the board and accomplishes absolutely nothing.
DB
Don't get your panties in a wad! I was being sarcastic.
BUT, since you brought it up here is a respose in kind...
Use your brain -
1 - I am CERTAIN the legal services advertised in the NEWSPAPER will be DIFFERENT than are discussed HERE. Advertise for legal services all day long - LE can't do a thing.
2 - You CAN in fact keep information from the police (please don't ask me to explain how - it's not that hard)
3 - Try to use some analytical reasoning - OF COURSE busts are made due to information (what are you thinking?) Zero information = Zero busts (ever here the term "under the radar"?)
I agree that many busts are politically motivated but let's use some common sense here - oh, and be respectful to each other.
I wheeled in there this afternoon. Open sihn is on. There were 4 other trucks in the back lot. They would not open the back door like they used to. Had to walk around to the front. Went in and was greated by an ok looking korean girl. She looks kinda like the LMT girl at Pine Tree. She said I had to wait 30 minutes. I did have that much time for lunch.
Anyone else try it today?
Quite a surprise to see Osaka advertising in today's newspaper.
Tampa Monger
06-25-07, 15:16
Whatever the case, we know it (probably) won't be the same old Osaka. Although we all know the real reason Osaka got busted, the "official" reason was "unlicensed practice of healthcare profession". In other words, they didn't have massage licenses.
Massage licenses are expensive, time consuming to get, etc. If Osaka hires only licensed therapists, it's going to jack up the price of all their services.
Then again, perhaps they figured that the storm has blown over, and it'll be back to business as usual. I hope that's the case here.
Dodger Bulldog
06-25-07, 16:44
I am glad to hear that your statement was meant with sarcasm. Unfortunately that doesn't always translate accurately in print. I apologize that my comments felt personal to you.
No disrespect was intended. I'd probably like you if I met you!
But you pretty much undermine your own point by in fact arguing once again for secrecy. You can't have it both ways.
It is one thing if you are going to keep your own secrets, but whenever someone encourages others to do so, that hurts us all. I'll challenge it every time.
So while reading the following comments, everyone can judge for themselves if they make sense or not. Don't take them personal, okay?
1 - I am CERTAIN the legal services advertised in the NEWSPAPER will be DIFFERENT than are discussed HERE. Advertise for legal services all day long - LE can't do a thing.LE certainly can't do anything about what is said here either. This is not legal "evidence" of anything.
Not that LE cares much about following the law, as they choose to do what they damn well please, evidence or not.
But discussing it here won't change a thing. Osaka was well documented on this board for many years before the cops moved in. If what we said here mattered, what the hell took them so long?
2 - You CAN in fact keep information from the police (please don't ask me to explain how - it's not that hard). Not this kind of information you can't. They know where every MP is, every corner where SW are, etc.
Just imagine for a minute if we had the resources that LE does. Suppose you and I could monger full-time, and get paid to do it, without any fear whatsoever of arrest. When we went home for the night someone would take our place and in the morning they would report to us what they learned in our absence.
We had all of the resources of the government at our disposal. We could run background checks, pull up arrest records, search credit reports, utility records, driver's licenses, addresses, phone numbers, etc. We had a network of thousands just like us who we could trust to share information with us.
Don't you think we would be the first to know what is going on in the community before anyone else does?
Well, that describes the assets that LEO has at its disposal.
Not to mention the ability to offer deals to drop charges, or even pay cash dollars for information. I have personally seen a detective offer a citizen $200 cash to answer a few questions.
If anyone thinks for a minute that LEO doesn't know every what is going on simultaneously or before we do, they are living in a dream world!
I hope that no one is so egocentric to think that we are giving away any secrets on this board. We are not.
Is anyone delusional enough to think that we are so clever we can find a provider or AMP that delivers, but the police are so stupid that they cannot unless they happen to read about it here?
3 - Try to use some analytical reasoning - OF COURSE busts are made due to information (what are you thinking?) Zero information = Zero busts (ever here the term "under the radar"?).This statement is about 180 degrees off course. So I will spell out the point: It is incredibly naive to think for a minute that LE has actually has ZERO information. The opposite is true. They have far more information than any of us will ever have.
Remember, it was in the NEWSPAPER. They know Osaka is open again. They probably knew it was happening long before it hit the newspaper.
They will bust it again when they feel like, whether that is in the next week or in three years. Nothing we say mattered before, and it won't matter now. That's because they have all the information they need if and when they want to do anything about it.
Our best hope as mongers is to pull together and share as much information with each other as we can. That we maybe we can all get a little while the getting is good.
The police love it if we keep secrets. It makes their job easier. They don't even have to lift a finger if we don't know where we can get laid. Divide and conquer wins every time.
Obvously, the very presence of anyone who comes here shows how valuable it is for us mongers to exchange information. If it didn't work out for our benefit instead of the benefit of LE, none of us would bother with this board in the first place.
Remember how excited you were when you first found out that this information was available online??? It was like the scales fell off our eyes.
For those of us old enough to remember what mongering was like before the internet, this is a godsend! So let's don't screw it up by keeping secrets.
Sharing information improves the possibilities for each of us. That is why Jackson undertook to run this board. So that we can all be enlightened.
Read the FAQ:
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
Respectfully,
DB
Tampa Monger
06-25-07, 18:56
What are the odds that Osaka has reopened as some kind of sting operation? I doubt it, but it's possible. I certainly plan to check it out anyway, but I'm going to keep my eyes open and be a bit cautious. Such things have happened before, though not in Tampa as far as I know.
Tampa Monger
06-25-07, 19:02
I just called Osaka. A woman -- I assume the mama-san -- answered. I asked who was working, and she said (in a strong Korean accent), "We're under new management. Just come on in!"
"Under new management" does not sound promising to me. I think Osaka will be just another massage + HR place now. :( I suspect, however, that it's new management and not a new owner.
Well, I'm going to take one for the team within the next couple days.
Before Osaka became THE Osaka, Yoshiko was one of the happenings AMPs in town. Like Osaka, they also fell prey to the medical treatment without a license thing. When they reopened, the old girls were all gone and the newbies were very paranoid for a few weeks until they got settled in. On my first visit all I got was HR and a nervous one at that.
My advice, keep expectations low and go with the flow. But remember the girls work for tips ;^)
Stopped in at Osaka when I saw the open sign lit. All new people Kim has retired(I was told) by May 30 something cute. like all amps massage and Happy ending. We will see if it gets better!
Chase Star
06-25-07, 21:46
TM, it sounds like the folks on both sides of the exchange might be a bit wary in the beginning until we know whats up - the mongers that go there and the girls themselves. You don't know if its a sting but I kinda doubt it. We also don't know if the same level of service will be on the menu or if it is will be at the same price. And the girls don't know if they will get busted again. could happen right away or it might not happen again for a while. They'll have better confidence after they've been open a while and nothing happens.
DB, don't jump on me but I sort of know where both you and mrmrr are coming from. I'm sure the cops had a pretty good idea what was going on at Osaka long before they ever busted them, whether from this board or from other sources. The posts on this board may not qualify as legal evidence but it is another source that might point them in the direction of where the greatest activity is happening and where they should target with an undercover operation to get the legal evidence to charge them. So why did they choose to bust Osaka when they did? I think it was political pressure but, and this is just a thought for discussion purposes, this board may have had some indirect impact on that. The places that are nothing more than overpriced jack shacks don't seem to get busted because they don't generate enough business to really attract any neighborhood attention. OTOH, places like Osaka, either because they DO offer a good deal and therefore generate lots of business and/or the fact that they offer such a good deal gets publicised on boards like this and in turn they become highly popular attracting lots of traffic. All that public coming and going then leads to the political pressure that causes the police to act to shut them down. Does that mean we shouldn't post about it? I'm not saying that, but you see the conundrum. Maybe the answer is to keep the more graphic details backchannel through PM's or something. but if the place really does wind up as good as it was I don't really see how that will keep it from eventually becoming the high traffic spot it was. One thing I do know is this... no one tell Newbie about this.
Dodger Bulldog
06-25-07, 22:25
Chase,
I can appreciate your balanced approach. Nonetheless, I think some facts will help bring the matter into better focus.
I hope the members here will evaluate the following data with an open mind.
The AMP scene has never been as well developed over in Orlando as it is in Tampa. Nonetheless, in March nine AMPs were busted. Of those nine, eight had never once been mentioned on this board in the past six months!
The one that was mentioned had two innocent comments:
1. It appears to be legitimate.
2. It was locked up.
There were 24 other AMPs that were mentioned on the board, ranging up to a high of 20 posts for the most popular one. Yet none of these 24 were busted.
So if this board has any influence on who LE decided to bust, why were 8 of the 9 establishments busted not mentioned on here, and 24 of the 25 mentioned here not busted?
Here is a link to the full report, as quoted by Jackson, along with his comments:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=514821&postcount=369
And of course, anyone can go read the Orlando AMP thread from September to March and see for himself that my statements are accurate.
Okay, that is one pretty thorough study that is directly related to this board, and based on factual data. I am confident that similar studies in other cites would likely bear the same results.
It is also a fact that there were literally hundreds of reports here on Osaka over many years LONG before anything went awry. That makes a pretty strong case that this board didn't have anything to do with the fact the LE finally decided to close it down some years later.
BTW, Chase, I will be visiting your favorite destination next month. No worries about being busted in Costa Rica, that's for sure!
DB
Stopped in at Osaka when I saw the open sign lit. All new people Kim has retired(I was told) by May 30 something cute. like all amps massage and Happy ending. We will see if it gets better!
Hey Max - have the prices changed?
Tampa Monger
06-26-07, 02:19
Went to Osaka tonight. I got a GREAT massage, but beyond that it was completely worthless. Sorry, but HJs just don't do it for me. Man I miss Tina.
Dodger Bulldog
06-26-07, 15:22
Sorry DB I still disagree. Never said they have zero infoAre you related to my first ex-wife? Man, I wish I had this quote function when I was married! She was always trying to twist her way out of what she had said just the day before.
2 - You CAN in fact keep information from the police (please don't ask me to explain how - it's not that hard)
3 - Try to use some analytical reasoning - OF COURSE busts are made due to information (what are you thinking?) Zero information = Zero busts (ever here the term "under the radar"?)In your world, how would they have information to make busts, since it is not that hard to keep it from them? And you did say that zero information = zero busts. We can all add 2+2 to get 4.
I suppose you also have some twisted logic to explain that your words don't mean what they say. No need to belabor the point any further. The contradictions speak for themselves.
At any rate, let's stick to the point, to wit: It is both ridiculous and self-defeating to think that by keeping secrets from the members of this board will have any impact on whether of not someone or some place gets busted.
Don't get your panties in a wad! I was being sarcastic.
Oh, that's right. You don't even really believe what you wrote. You were just being sarcastic.
Never forget: The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
DB
I was going to go to the "O" at 4:15 this afternoon, but lo & behold, sitting in the parking lot to the left of our fine establishment next to a little red Ford Ranger, was a very white, very Crown Victoria with a little "police interceptor" decal on it's rear. Needless to say, I didn't go in due to a case of paranoia. Beware, folks. May have been a coincidence, but still not a warm feeling.
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I ran into the same type of vehicle before O went down. The girls warned me it WAS LE. LE was just sitting in the car. Made me look in my rear view mirror for the next two days.
I was going to go to the "O" at 4:15 this afternoon, but lo & behold, sitting in the parking lot to the left of our fine establishment next to a little red Ford Ranger, was a very white, very Crown Victoria with a little "police interceptor" decal on it's rear. Needless to say, I didn't go in due to a case of paranoia. Beware, folks. May have been a coincidence, but still not a warm feeling.
...and they'll be calling Jose the car attendant at Dollar Rent a Car.
Unfortunately I never made it down Hillsborough this time around.
Hardwood123
06-27-07, 07:27
Anyone want to give me some info on the reborn Osaka? do the girls get nude with you? Do they allow mutual massage, etc? PM me if you feel more comfortable... Just weighing my options. Kind of muss the place, ya know...
HW
Dodger Bulldog
06-27-07, 12:33
Hey, UranIdiot - if you don't want to read my posts it takes about a nanosecond to scroll past them. Or learn to use the ignore function. It works.
Mrmrmr, it has nothing to do about "disagreeing" with me. By advocating secrecy you attempt to undermine the very purpose of this board.
That is serious shit. Don't try to soften it. A person either agrees with the purpose of this board or they don't:
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
Whenever someone tries to sabotage what USG is all about I will call them on it. Every time.
Time to move on buddy - let's discuss mongering.Yes. Now let's talk about mongering instead of secrecy. That's the spirit!
DB
Think I'll give it a month or so to see how the services shape up at the O. I can say the hr and hh prices are the same as before.
UranIdiot,
You are a class act. If you don't like the way this forum operates, you are free to go somewhere else.
Riggo
TremontTeddy
06-27-07, 20:25
Looks like the recent turnover at Sunshine Spa has stabilized. New mamasan and two new girls working. I took advantage of the transition and lowerd my tip from $$ to $.4 for the full Monty.
One thing I like about the old Osaka, Mamasan opened the doors on Saturday 8am sharp. I was driving around a couple weekends ago and all the places opened at 10am or 9am. I went into one place on Kennendy and met the cleaning lady, tried to talk her into a session, very sad.
TT
UranIdiot,
You are a class act. If you don't like the way this forum operates, you are free to go somewhere else.
Riggo
Yes I am a class act. And I got tired of reading people attack each other. I read this forum to see where the pussy is, not to read people arguing with each other. Your post showing me the door is the first by you I've remember seeing.
Someone else here mentioned a masseuse with a happy ending and more and said $*** for a handjob? But a handjob is 5 minutes or so. If you spend an hour or more building up anticipation, if a beautiful woman presses her whole body against you, that's better than a handjob in a car from a skank isn't it?
I've got a very promising appointment coming up. Might be the best yet. I've known her for a while and trust her. I've had a few appointments with her with no real extras, but I think she trusts me now. Because of the price I've been quoted and her description of what is going to happen I'm expecting a really amazing experience. More than a massage, more than a hj, more than a gfe.
I usually wait a few days before I post, in case the provider sees it she won't be sure it's me posting.
Enjoy your day guys.
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