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Kitie Carson
01-01-06, 08:07
Will be visiting your fair city mid-January. I will be staying @ Mirage.

ANy working girls there or can anyone help w/ nearest locations of SW's or bargirls from the Mirage.

ANy help appreciated.

thanks kitie

Regulr Travlr
01-01-06, 13:14
I had posted a request on here for info on best location in Mandalay. There was little info after a search and I got a couple of PMs which were not on point. So here is my finding.

There is a large lounge with walls on all 4 sides in the center of the casino. I think it is called the Island Lounge. I was playing blackjack right outside of it for a while and would peak in occasionally. Definitely saw a few working girls but nothing outstanding. There was a great band fronted by three girls. So when I was done playing I went in to get a drink and listen. Saw a couple of black girls who were definitely working but I was not into that.

I settled down to listen to music with my back to the bar. At the end of the set I turned around and there was this Terry Hatcher look alike standing about 3 stools away from. I immediately motioned to her that I would like to buy her a drink and she came over. Nice white belly shirt and jeans. Perky tits that later turned out to be enhanced, much to my surprise. We had a nice conversation over the drinks and she made suggestions as to what her real intent was.. She started at 5 but I was only able to get down to 4. She promised no rush. She goes by Eva.

As I was having a drink and talking to her several other more attractive girls started wandering in. In talking with Eva she said that earlier in the evening you get only the girls working the bar and the quality is not so good. Later on you get girls coming off an outcall job in the Mandalay, The Hotel or 4 Seasons. They stop in to see if they can find something independent to round off the nite and make some direct dollars. So late is the way to go.

My experience up in the room with Eva was a mixed bag. She was attractive and pleasant and did not rush. She even asked if I wanted to go downstairs and hang out with her after we were all done. She gave a great CBJ and we went Mish and completed in CG. The mixed bag for me was that there was no manual play allowed and no DATY. Two of my favorite things. She talked a lot about hygeine. If she had been clear about her restrictions up front I may have moved on. But overall she was very good at what we did.

Hope this helps you guys who are staying in the Mandalay complex.

Speck
01-01-06, 19:23
Will be visiting your fair city mid-January. I will be staying @ Mirage.

ANy working girls there or can anyone help w/ nearest locations of SW's or bargirls from the Mirage.

ANy help appreciated.

thanks kitie


How much do you want to spend, what are you looking for, etc?

There are a ton of options in that area.

np2112
01-01-06, 21:33
There are some gentlemen in town who know how to perform that service.But then maybe you already have; you just never know.


Well, just have one thing to say to that...

Touche

np2112
01-01-06, 21:36
Would this heifer you mentioned be the one that calls herself "BABYGIRL"?



BINGO!! She's one nasty nasty lady ain't she? But there must be a lotta fatty chasers or else she, and a couple of others, wouldn't keep posting. My theory is that they cater to the very low-income guys who can't get any and are too lazy or unknowledgeable about the gems that can be had on the street with a little work. Or perhaps they can afford a computer, but not a car...

Kitie Carson
01-01-06, 23:44
anywhere up to $3 .
PM w/info. Much appreciated


How much do you want to spend, what are you looking for, etc?

There are a ton of options in that area.

David 2
01-02-06, 01:35
BINGO!! She's one nasty nasty lady ain't she? But there must be a lotta fatty chasers or else she, and a couple of others, wouldn't keep posting. My theory is that they cater to the very low-income guys who can't get any and are too lazy or unknowledgeable about the gems that can be had on the street with a little work. Or perhaps they can afford a computer, but not a car...I managed to get these pictures of babygirl without her makeup. Enjoy

Speck
01-02-06, 04:59
anywhere up to $3 .
PM w/info. Much appreciated

No need to pm. There are cg's everywhere at night. Almost nonexistant during the day so give that idea up, if you had it. Also, far more cg's on weekends than on weekdays.

DO NOT CALL ANY ADS!!!!!!! THEY ARE ROB's.

I think $$$ is too much, but you will be hard pressed to find anything for less than that before 12am. Even then, it may be hard to find as the only real concentration I have found early in the evening are at the VP bars in Cesars and Bellagio, and at that time the girls tend to look for $$$$$ and up. Your best bet will be to walk on the opposite side of LV Bl around 2-3am....maybe even later.....take the people mover out of the Mirage exit that is by the white tigers, that is go by the poker room, then pass the sports book, then pass the CPK, then pass the white tigers. The mover will drop you off at LV Bl next to a traffic signal. Walk across the street to Harrahs. I have had late night luck in Harrahs, so you may want to walk through. Continue past the Harrahs outdoor thing and then past Imperial Palace. Head over to Flamingo. You may want to poke your head inside. I have had luck there. Then head past Barbary Coast. You may want to check out all the hot girlies at Drai. Not working girls, but nice eye candy. I should note that by this time you should have seen 5-10 cg's at least. Maybe nothing you are interested in, but they should be there. As you get to Barbary Coast, you will see the bridges crossing LV Bl. I have seen lots of girls in these areas, and very good looking ones. I have not had success by the Cesars fountains, so I would cross the bridge towards Aladdin and then head to Bellagio. Just cruise through Bellagio. At 3am, there are ho's everywhere. If you are unsuccessful, walk back the same way you came.

Remember, there are no guarantees. I looked up your post history, and it seems that you have some experience. You should know the things to be careful of. When I find a girl I like, I tend to hold her hand or put my arm around her pretty quickly, exchange names. She will almost always ask where you are staying. Tell her. While its not really necessary, I usually do a innocent LE check. I ask her how I know she is not the police. This question is purely meaningless, but allows her to say one of two things: "I'm not police" after which I can ask her if I can touch and get in a cheap feel, or "touch me" which also get me a cheap feel. These actions serve to clear my mind. Then I usually discuss price. They will ask how much you have. Your response should be "how much do I need?". Almost always they will ask $300. Offer $200. At this time of night, few will turn it down. You will almost never be over paying. The problem with countering at $100 is that almost no cg will take $100 and you find yourself in the unfortunate situation of begging the ho to take $200.

If you are successful, walk back to Mirage if you are at IP or closer. Take a cab if you are further away. Unless the ho wants to walk.

Sponge Worthy
01-02-06, 17:06
I managed to get these pictures of babygirl without her makeup. EnjoyYikes! A little more warning before you post stuff like that. I won't be able to get a hard-on for the rest of the month now.

Broad St Guy
01-02-06, 17:45
I managed to get these pictures of babygirl without her makeup. Enjoy


GOOD GOD MAN! What is wrong with you posting that in the picture section! For the love of God! ugh! :(

Cienega32
01-02-06, 19:23
GOOD GOD MAN! What is wrong with you posting that in the picture section! For the love of God! ugh! :(
I think, perhaps, he thought he was on CraigsList, where those types of postings are status quo. Tho' I can appreciate the stab at the humor, those aren't the girl mentioned and are only your standard "fat girl" pics.

I hope it's not a future trend for our beloved forum; to follow the example of CL, which has gotten very silly as of late.

Desert Dude
01-03-06, 13:02
Trying to go out with a bang, hahahaha omg what a damn comedian...Got off early Friday, ran into Beatty up to Angel's Ladies. New owner's starting to put some money into the place. One of the former bartenders from Sheri's is now the madam, neat gal. Blaze was over from the Chicken Ranch, but was already tied up or otherwise enjoying life. Only one available, thinking her name was Miranda. From North Carolina, with those sexy ass schoolmarm glasses and nicely enhanced rack. I got lucky negotiating, well under .2 for a quickie cbj/fs. She was trying to rush, which was fine as I was fighting time as well. Still had a blast, she's got a great attitude...Then a trip to Vegas Sunday, which should just go in the streetwalker section but I'm too lazy to start another post.

Had dinner at Craftsteak at MGM. Quite an experience, glad I wasn't paying. Nice eye candy in the next booth tho. Got to my regular hotel downtown, went downstairs just to grab a dollar Tecate, ran into Kim again. Brunette, chunky body with B cuppers. Nice smile. No phone. Gave me shit that it was the second time I caught her in the wrong time of the month. No worries I said, you worked out a nice bbbj for .20 last time, yup, here we go again. Gave her a 5 tip as she's a fun mellow gal to be around. Plenty of beer drinkin followed. Next morning, just walking out the door, there's two girls talking on the corner. Made eye contact with one, and then again. Where's your girlfriend she asked almost aggressively. I don't have one!!, I said, where's your boyfriend? I don't have one, she said, I'm looking for a date. So am I said I!! As it turns out, apparently I look like a friend of hers who does indeed have a new black gf. It was a great approach, we both got right to the point inadvertantly. 42yo phillapina, first time for everything. Tia-Decent bod, well kept, even full fingernail polish!

Being it was my last night/day in Vegas for quite some time, I decided to splurge and ask about a couple hours. We agreed on .100 for 2, 2.5 hours. Got right to the first round, she only did bj's covered, whatever, and had to take a break every so often as her ex had broken her jaw years back. Damn if that's not the same exact thing that had happened to Kim also. Hmmm, guess there's more than occasional abuse in these gal's lives...Went to some cg, with her standing on her feet/haunches, different than the on the knees that I'm most used to. Flipped her and finished mish. Watched 'Bama pull it out with a field goal, then played with those big nips, while she massaged me up for another, a doggie pounding. Then she cuddled up and we both snoozed for a minute. Woke her up 15 minutes before check-out time, she must have been dreaming something fun, as she was giving herself serious hand just seconds later. After a couple gasps, she rolled on her side, and we had a quick spoonfuck. All in all, probably my best session in my vegas adventures.

BigTom
01-03-06, 17:56
Speck,

Nice report man, thanks.

Coming out to LV in two weeks and have been reading all of the old reports and that was one of the better ones. Thanks for the reports and tips from a number of other SM's out there. Will post after I visit your city.

Tom

Muggs
01-04-06, 13:19
Trying to go out with a bang, hahahaha omg what a damn comedian...Got off early Friday, ran into Beatty up to Angel's Ladies. New owner's starting to put some money into the place. One of the former bartenders from Sheri's is now the madam, neat gal. Blaze was over from the Chicken Ranch, but was already tied up or otherwise enjoying life. Only one available, thinking her name was Miranda. From North Carolina, with those sexy ass schoolmarm glasses and nicely enhanced rack. I got lucky negotiating, well under .2 for a quickie cbj/fs. She was trying to rush, which was fine as I was fighting time as well. Still had a blast, she's got a great attitude...Then a trip to Vegas Sunday, which should just go in the streetwalker section but I'm too lazy to start another post.

Had dinner at Craftsteak at MGM. Quite an experience, glad I wasn't paying. Nice eye candy in the next booth tho. Got to my regular hotel downtown, went downstairs just to grab a dollar Tecate, ran into Kim again. Brunette, chunky body with B cuppers. Nice smile. No phone. Gave me shit that it was the second time I caught her in the wrong time of the month. No worries I said, you worked out a nice bbbj for .20 last time, yup, here we go again. Gave her a 5 tip as she's a fun mellow gal to be around. Plenty of beer drinkin followed. Next morning, just walking out the door, there's two girls talking on the corner. Made eye contact with one, and then again. Where's your girlfriend she asked almost aggressively. I don't have one!!, I said, where's your boyfriend? I don't have one, she said, I'm looking for a date. So am I said I!! As it turns out, apparently I look like a friend of hers who does indeed have a new black gf. It was a great approach, we both got right to the point inadvertantly. 42yo phillapina, first time for everything. Tia-Decent bod, well kept, even full fingernail polish!

Being it was my last night/day in Vegas for quite some time, I decided to splurge and ask about a couple hours. We agreed on .100 for 2, 2.5 hours. Got right to the first round, she only did bj's covered, whatever, and had to take a break every so often as her ex had broken her jaw years back. Damn if that's not the same exact thing that had happened to Kim also. Hmmm, guess there's more than occasional abuse in these gal's lives...Went to some cg, with her standing on her feet/haunches, different than the on the knees that I'm most used to. Flipped her and finished mish. Watched 'Bama pull it out with a field goal, then played with those big nips, while she massaged me up for another, a doggie pounding. Then she cuddled up and we both snoozed for a minute. Woke her up 15 minutes before check-out time, she must have been dreaming something fun, as she was giving herself serious hand just seconds later. After a couple gasps, she rolled on her side, and we had a quick spoonfuck. All in all, probably my best session in my vegas adventures.

Good way to head out of sin city. Best of luck....check pm.

GA Boy
01-09-06, 04:35
dreamt I finally got my vegas cherry popped. Been going to vegas for many years, learning lessons the hard way about strip clubs, etc. I finally found this newsgroup a few years back and had some good times in the Georgia - Alabama area. All the times I've been coming here I never could get hooked up. You can't just walk up to any girl on the street after all because when a girl comes to Vegas she almost automatically dresses pretty skanky (I think it's in the blood or something) and you'll get in trouble. Well, following the advie in the Vagas section here I was better able to know what I was looking foor. Anyway, here's the story. I've been in the Castle for a few days gambling at various casinos, I was watching the girls that came in alone and tried to make contact with them. Several smiled and said hello and seemed pretty 'friendly'. I cotinued to observe for a few days to make sure I was correct in my observations. I was. almost invariably everyone of these girls left the casino towards the rooms with someone they didn't come with, usually taking no more then a few minute up to 30 at most. On my last day, this cute blonde named Jay comes strolling in, makes eye contact with me, smiles and sits down at a slot. A few minutes later I casually stroll over and sit down to play the slot beside her. She starts up some conversation ,we talk a bit, she follows me back to my room. Negotiated price of $$. She started a cbj, pretty decent technique. Downside now.. Now (after 10 min into the bj) she starts the upsale. FS will be another $ but she's willing to finish the CBJ for what she's got now. Well, I had pretty good luck the last few days but this ticked me off a little. So I called her sale and raised it. Told her I wouldn't give the extra $ for FS but would go another for $$ if she included a greek lesson any way I wanted. She did and I did. Need I say I hammered that booty hard? I'm sure that being in the business she wasn't new to this but I felt I got my moneys worth and she'll feel it for at least a few hours. All said, price was a little high compared to what I'm used to and next time I'll dicker harder and drive a better deal. So you regulars in Vegas don't slam me to hard. PM for digits if you want.

Vegas Pro
01-09-06, 06:39
What the hell is this post doing under my name? I didn't post it. I posted something else completely.Its all in the coding. The board uses html type coding for different things like bold, italics, underline, etc. If you put [Q u o t e = 'name'], then it'll appear as a quote from that person, even if they didnt post it.

See Rock City
01-09-06, 17:19
Will be visiting your fair city mid-January. I will be staying @ Mirage.

ANy working girls there or can anyone help w/ nearest locations of SW's or bargirls from the Mirage.

ANy help appreciated.

thanks kitieI stayed at the Mirage in November and was very disappointed. The casino is being remodeled and the pickings are slim. The Bacarrat Bar in the middle of the casino always had 4 or 5 girls hanging around and security never bothered them. Now the bar is gone and so are the girls. I did find a few around the phones by the elevators from time to time and actually picked up one in the bar next to the sports book, but it took up a lot of time. Always before you could cruise the Bacarrat Bar anytime day or night and hook-up. If it's not too late to change hotels, I would do so.

Speck
01-12-06, 00:10
I stayed at the Mirage in November and was very disappointed. The casino is being remodeled and the pickings are slim. The Bacarrat Bar in the middle of the casino always had 4 or 5 girls hanging around and security never bothered them.

More like 20 or 30 girls, at least on some nights. One time I had been playing poker at Mirage(only $10-20 limit holdem game in Las Vegas on regular basis), but staying at Luxor. I had won about $600 and wanted to have some fun, but mostly black girls at the bar. A kind of unattractive asian girl, but obviously working, came up and started talking to me. She was BEGGING me to take her with me. Nothing doing. I went back to Luxor and took a hottie latina back to my room($$). Knocked the shit out, told her to get the fuck out, Im going to sleep.

One Wing Low
01-12-06, 01:48
She's a very cute blonde, blue eye, with a pretty face, 5'2 110Lbs. She came from North Carolina, Seattle, Orange County. Now she settles down in Las Vegas with her 2 YO daughter. She is determined to take good care of her baby.

Her face is pretty. Her breasts is a perky, natural C. Her tummy and rear end are slightly loaded. She does a mean blow job and her pussy is tight. She was an incredible moaner. Sounded like she really enjoyed DATY and the fuck. She did not want to stop after I already unloaded into her.

You can call her when you are in vegas. Her mobile SEVEN ZERO TWO EIGHT ZERO EIGHT NINE ONE TWO SIX.

Amigo
01-12-06, 20:26
Any CG's to be had at the IP during the week? I'll be staying there in a couple of weeks and haven't seen it mentioned. I've never stayed there before so I don't really know what to expect.

Gracias!

Member #3278
01-12-06, 21:26
Any CG's to be had at the IP during the week? I'll be staying there in a couple of weeks and haven't seen it mentioned. I've never stayed there before so I don't really know what to expect.

Gracias!I stayed at Harrahs 2 or 3 months ago, there were plenty all along that stretch from harrahs south along strip. Been planning a stay at IP myself as Harrahs security wouldn't allow "visitors".

ChefType
01-12-06, 23:24
My luck in Las Vegas is definetly changing for the better. I posted last month about a gem I found on Boulder Highway, well lightening can and does strike twice once in a while. Sally was right where I found her last month and was very happy to see a familiar face. I asked her to come with me back to the Stratosphere where I was staying and she replied she would have to meet me later as she had an appointment. Thinking that was the end of that, I moved on continuing to hunt Boulder highway for that rare young and hungry sweetheart that I have found on rare occasions in the past few years. Much to my delight Sally DID show up with her girlfriend Trina a few hours later. I didn't have cash enough for the double with me so I just layed Sally out on the bed while Trina went downstairs to hunt her own quarry. Luckily I handed Trina a cell number before she left. I enjoyed all of Sallys charms for $ and kissed her goodbye an hour later. That was the last I saw of Sally for the rest of the week I was in Las Vegas. However Trina called me every evening asking if I needed any company. I swear it was like having a hooker on a retainer. Three of my remaining evenings were spent driving a 22 year old that couldn't get enough. I never spent more than 1.5 per session. Including DATY, and a double fuck on that session, this was my second lucky "find" in two consecutive trips to Las Vegas. I also passed on a very cute CG named Michelle that hit me up at 8:30 am on morning right next to Starbucks inside the Stratosphere. She wanted $$$ and had I not had my phone call girlfriend keeping me limp I would have called Michelle. I'm sure she would have gone for less than $$$ there is simply to much competition at the Strat to pay that kind of money. I only have digits for Michelle as Trina and Sally prefer to find their own clients, hand picking them from the thousands of Conventioners like me that decend on LV each week. As I have not yet come close to achieving Senior member status it seems odd to request that anyone looking for Michelles digits be a senior member but I don't intend to give uncle Leo any information so the Senior member rule will have to stay in effect. Happy hunting guys, the gems ARE out there I am 2 for 2 this year after many disappointments last year. I am heading back to Las Vegas in February if any locals are interested in sharing a story or two with an old Chef let me know, some of you guys are legends in my book.

Speck
01-13-06, 00:21
Any CG's to be had at the IP during the week? I'll be staying there in a couple of weeks and haven't seen it mentioned. I've never stayed there before so I don't really know what to expect.

Gracias!

IP is a cruddy hotel compared to those around. Nothing horrible though. Average Travel Lodge quality I guess. Cheap gaming though. For ho's you fortunately have some good options as long as you are willing to put in a little effort and spend at least $$. While you will not find cg's in IP very often, you will find them within a 5 minute walk, and they will come back to your room with you. There is also a karoke bar in front of IP(walk out the front entrance and across the driveway into the other building you see) and there are often cute women there.

This assumes weekends. If you are looking mid week, it will be very hit aned miss. The best time for girls is after 2am, maybe a little later. Lots out in front of Flamingo. I've also seen some walking through Harrahs. Anyway, if I were you I would head out of IP and down to BC. Cross the street and cruise through Bellagio and head back the same way. Should find something you will like. BTW, although you may find a $ or $.5 bargain, it is unlikely and I would not expect it. Under no circumstances should you expect anything under $. There are no low end crack ho's out here.

Wastrel
01-13-06, 03:12
If you're driving in, I think you'll find parking arrangements at the IP are even more of a pain in the ass than bigger Strip properties, but the hotel is in a good location, and the cheap rooms are, well, cheap, at least by Strip standards. But for chrissakes don't even think of consuming any solid food in that place. There are many fine restaurants in the area, none of which are located inside the Imperial Palace.

If you'd like to see what awaits as you kill time before your visit you can always log into the IPs webcams at:
http://www.imperialpalace.com/ Click on the link on the right side of the page about a third of the way down. They'll make you "register" by giving your email address before they let you in, but that just means they'll send you emails with promotional rates when they discount rooms during soft weeks and such. Camera #3 is a street level view of the walkway out front of the IPs main pedestrian entrance on LV Blvd, and it often has fine views of working girls strolling by. Prime viewing starts around, oh, right about now, and I've spotted several likely prospects in the time I've been typing this, even though it's cold out now. One of them was shivering in a pink halter top and wearing bunny ears as she went by.

Speck
01-13-06, 17:52
But for chrissakes don't even think of consuming any solid food in that place. There are many fine restaurants in the area, none of which are located inside the Imperial Palace.


Repeat after me: DO NOT EAT AT THE BUFFET!

Not even if they give it to you for free. My last stay there, I got comped to the buffet. The only thing edible was the salad. Thats it. I did try some of the dryest roast pork I have ever tasted. Not good.

If you need cheap eats, there is a Chipotle just on the far side of Harrahs that makes some of the tastiest gringo burritos you will ever have. A drink and burrito will set you back about $7-8 or so. If you need buffet food, fork over the extra dough for the one at the Mirage(~$17) or the even better one at Aladdin(~$24).

Amigo
01-13-06, 18:07
Speck and Wastrel - Thanks for the info. I'm a regular visitor to Vegas but the IP is one place I've never even walked through. I guess it's a little better than the Western.

Best Tx Monger
01-13-06, 21:56
Thread Starter. Post your New Adventures for 2006 Here !

-007

Best Tx Monger
01-13-06, 21:59
I don't know about you, but I sure don't like to live in the past. Please click on the following to post your mis-adventures, but above all, ADVENTURES for the 2006.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=410442#post410442

-007

Seamuso
01-14-06, 19:45
Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

Seamuso

Wastrel
01-15-06, 06:22
[I love living in the past, at least for as long as admin still keeps it a "sticky" past in this thread instead of archiving it, so I'll just post this where the conversation started.]


Been planning a stay at IP myself as Harrahs security wouldn't allow "visitors".How exactly did they do that? Is Harrah's posting security at the elevators and questioning who belongs upstairs with your key card? Only a very few places that I know of regularly do that. Just curious. Since I'm really not a big fan of their style of hotel/casino management it's not likely I'll ever pay for a room there myself. But I've been wondering if the Harrah's disease might infect some of the other properties they've recently swallowed up, such as the Flamingo and Caesars, and suck the life out of them.

Personally, I have a small selection of old key cards for use as loaners at a few of the places I go to with some frequency, some of them kept by me just to use their gym and such, and I've known some locally based working girls who have quite an impressive collection of them in a portable file like a business card organizer.

I've long wanted to know what's up with the so called "Luv Tub" and "Deluxe Luv Tub" rooms at the Imperial Palace, if anyone ever gets one of those. Whatever they really are, I'm sure I could find some kind of recreational use for one of them, even though they seem to charge about 30-50% more than for their standard rooms.

Member #3278
01-15-06, 09:39
[QUOTE=Wastrel][I love living in the past, for as long as admin still keeps it a "sticky" past in this thread, so I'll just post this where the conversation started.]

How exactly did they do that? Is Harrah's posting security at the elevators and questioning who belongs upstairs with your key card? Only a very few places that I know of regularly do that. Just curious. Since I'm really not a big fan of their style of hotel/casino management it's not likely I'll ever pay for a room there myself. But I've been wondering if the Harrah's disease might infect some of the other properties they've recently swallowed up, such as the Flamingo and Caesars, and suck the life out of them.

I have to admit I didn't test the security, just was told by 2 different girls I met outside the pavilion that they wouldn't be allowed up with me there. In retrospect maybe it was that they were "known" there, and 86'd. They do post security in the evenings at all elevators, and are adamant at seeing key cards. I stayed there only because I was comped, but I really don't care for the place myself either. I was concerned that a 50 something with a 20 year old of a different race may raise suspicion, and didn't want to get into a scene. Maybe just my paranoia.

Wastrel
01-16-06, 20:26
Thanks for the info.
In retrospect maybe it was that they were "known" there, and 86'd.Probably, and at Harrah's they may have been 86'd just for working, or it could have been due to ripping off customers or other serious misbehavior as it would be at most any other gaming property, and in that case they may have done you a favor by running them off.
They do post security in the evenings at all elevators, and are adamant at seeing key cards...I was concerned that a 50 something with a 20 year old of a different race may raise suspicion...Nah, there wouldn't have been any kind of suspicion, cuase they'd know exactly what was going on and probably be giving numerical ratings to your date's body parts, estimating her price, and making book with each other in the security office on how long she'd be upstairs. My temporary fiancees and nieces are usually a couple decades younger and many shades darker and often have really outrageous taste in fashion tending towards fishnet stockings and stilleto heels, but I do try to be polite and considerate in public and insist that they behave themselves for a few minutes as I escort them in for our little honeymoon and divorce. Those standards of public propriety can vary from property to property, even within the same company, depending on what market niche they are targeting. I'd think of Harrah's trying to maintain an atmosphere like a suburban shopping mall, for example, while others do not:

Nevada's Gaming Control Board is investigating the activities in Las Vegas casino resort nightclubs -- including Light at Bellagio, one of the Strip's top two resorts.

The board has already met with casino executives to let them know that there is concern about activities in the clubs, and the board continues to look into what is taking place in the pricey and risque venues.

An event taking place tonight at Light is an example of the kind of event that is fueling the scrutiny of the Control Board, the gaming industry's cop and tax collector.

Light this evening is holding the Crazy Horse Too strip club's 2006 calendar release party, an event that will be hosted by the women who pose for the calendar.

Only two years ago the Control Board roasted license applicant Tim Poster for his friendship with Crazy Horse Too owner Rick Rizzolo, telling the future (and now former) Golden Nugget owner that Rizzolo was the subject of an FBI investigation and that the club employs several people with organized crime connections.

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...MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman said tonight's event makes sense from a business perspective.

<SNIP>

"The club business is a competitive environment; it's very sexy," Feldman said.

<SNIP>

He noted that Rizzolo hasn't been indicted...

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[ http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/commentary/2006/jan/15/519968306.html ]

Wastrel
01-16-06, 21:03
Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

SeamusoOut of state license is ceratainly no problem, as a local is actually more suspicious renting a room on the Strip. The place has been known to accomodate a few out of town visitors on occasion. But every hotel I'm aware of will want to run your credit card at check-in for an authorization to pay for incidentals, extra charges, or damages. If you pay cash and don't use anything charged to your room, including the phone, then it MAY not appear on your statement if they don't run a "hard charge" but I don't know how to make sure of that, since many hotels in Vegas play games whith their guest's folios by padding the bill with little ticky tacky stuff. The no-tells such as the Oasis (702-735-6494 at 1731 Las Vegas Blvd S) are much more likely to let you check in with cash and no credit card so long as both you and your date have valid gov't issued ID.

For some odd reason I find many non-local working girls and "friends" stay at the Circus-Circus, of all places, perhaps becuase it's relatively cheap, or maybe just becuase pimps have really bad taste. Online bookings require a card of course, but of any of the conventional Strip hotels I think it might be worth calling them at 1-877-434-9175 to see what they will do on a cash only basis. I'd explain that I'm in the middle of buying a house and don't want any credit card activity at this time to avoid messing with the mortgage underwriting process.

Other hotels in the Coast Casinos chain have always asked me for a credit card authorization at check-in, even when I'm not paying that way, so I imagine the Barbary Coast would probably do the same.

Speck
01-16-06, 22:30
Harrahs is the only current constant I know of in Las Vegas. Never a lot of girls, but always a few decent ones. For the most part, they are less outrageous in attire than their counterparts you might see over by Flamingo. Anyway, I have spent the night at Harrahs and taken a working girl up to my room. Security could not have cared less. Why would they want to piss off a gambler?

That said, I have seen cg's 86'ed from Harrahs many times. For whatever reason, the pimps are insanely aggressive in this area and tend to go into Harrahs to hassle the girls. Harrah's security really does not seem to care about the safety of the girls, only getting rid of the immediate problem. So both parties are booted.

Just this past weekend, I had a cg encounter at Harrahs. I posted it in the 2006 thread.

Wastrel
01-16-06, 22:45
Interesting, thanks for filling in the picture. Tends to confirm the theory that those ladies had some particular individual problems leading the property's security to treat them as bad news. Perhaps just not able to "fit in" to the satisfaction of the casino's preferred image, or just caught in one of those scenes that they wanted to just quickly sweep out without sorting it out, or maybe something more serious like a trick roll. Those pimps and wannabes really do get out of hand and have no sense, and I wish they would just take some of them out back to the shop for a major tune up and valve adjustment.

I may try using it for 'take-out' one of these days then. When I go to the Strip I'm often near there. My sour attitude about some aspects of their management approach really has nothing to do with the main purpose of this forum, and doesn't come from any experiences hooking up in there.

Dusty122
01-17-06, 09:59
I will be in Vegas in February.

Stayed at Harrahs.

Can I get sp in my room.

Amon
01-17-06, 12:38
I will be visiting Vegas in a few weeks, and always find time for a massage or two. I have one regular but continue to look for other providers and variations. Does anyone have information on a female named "Midori"? She claims to do the rub in the nude but can't get much other info from her. Also wondering about a black gal named "Rose" and a Japanese/American named "Lilly". Any information would be appreciated and I will let the board know of my experiences.

Inlander
01-17-06, 18:12
Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

Seamuso


To my knowledge, they ALL rent rooms for cash. You DO need a credit card to check in, but at check out simply tell them you want to pay cash. No record of any kind has ever showed up on any of my credit card statements in these situations. They will usually put a 'hold' authorization on your card for a minimum amount just to verify the card is valid. Most rental car companies do this same thing. Again, if you pay the final bill with cash, nothing shows up on your credit card statement.

If you are staying at a property for an extended period of time, I would verify at check in their billing policy: i.e., when your account balance reaches a certain dollar amount, or a certain number of room nights. Just make sure you settle with cash before they trigger the billing. I've never stayed longer than 5 consecutive nights, but at checkout the clerk normally asks if I "want to leave the charges on the card" before actually processing the transaction.


Good mongering

Inlander

I like 24
01-17-06, 18:50
The last time I used a room at the Boardwalk for activities I was shocked when I got my credit card printout a month later.

I specifically told them I wanted to pay cash and was told it would not be a problem. But, because I used a card to guarantee the room, it showed up as a charge and then offset by a credit.

That thing went into the shredder real fast.

I'm not sure you can guarantee that nothing will ever show up.

ClitCommander
01-17-06, 20:50
Would a LV resident or frequent visitor please advise me which strip hotels, preferably cheap like Circus Circus or Barbary Coast, rent rooms for cash to someone with an out-of-state driver's license and does not object if he brings a SW or CW up to his room?

I don't want a credit card bill showing the No Tell Motel.

Thanks.

Seamuso

Most hotels/motels ask for credit information. If you don't have a credit card they then ask for a drivers license in order to screen out convicted felons or wanted people (security precaution) along with a hefty deposit. If you're trying to mask your immoral activities then you won't have much luck just having cash in hand in order to reserve accomodations in las vegas. Too many unfavorables come to las vegas such as drug dealing weekenders and pimps with criminal records which require hotels/motels to initiate a pro-active search should you have a criminal history. Now, this is not a hard a fast rule, but should law enforcement have reason to investigate you, they can legally supoena (sp?) records of your visit to Las Vegas including any accomodations you have booked via some form of indentity.

If you're just an honest citizen, the reservation at the Circus Circus or Barbary Coast hardly constitutes as a "no tell motel". As far as whether security would bother you about who you brought up to your room, thats an iffy type of question. Unless they knew the person you were bringing up as a known SW,CW etc that has caused problems in the past then they might take notice.

Now if you were to reserve a room at the Oasis motel, then you would be suspect to whoever is aware of the infamous motel!

By they way, you don't need a credit card to rent a vehicle. They just ask for a big deposit if you don't have a credit card.

Wastrel
01-17-06, 22:49
Now, this is not a hard a fast rule, but should law enforcement have reason to investigate you, they can legally supoena (sp?) records of your visit to Las Vegas including any accomodations you have booked via some form of indentity.A little correction: they don't have to subpeona anything, and this is a very hard and very fast rule in Vegas. By law all local lodging establishments are required to check a gov't issued ID for all guests, and all registration records are available immediately for inspection by law enforcement all the time, no exceptions, no form of formal request or reason is needed, and no delay tolerated. Any hotel, motel, or other lodging establishment which does not comply WILL be shut down. LE sees everything in the registration records any time they wish, and they do wish very often, so don't come to Vegas if you have a felony warrant. "Hiding out" from the law in Vegas is just about the dumbest thing anyone could possibly think of, but of course there's no shortage of criminals stupid enough to think it's a good idea and dozens more such morons arrive every day, and they get busted if the state issuing the warrant is willing to bother with the expense of extradition. They aren't checking up on your morality, just your criminal record. If you don't have one, don't sweat it. Many other cities and states 'round the world have similar laws.

I have the impression that the original poster was mostly concerned about the paper trail on the credit card getting back to the wife or girlfriend or whatever, and not wanting to explain about sweating up the sheets in the "XXX Love Shack" with Bambi to the little woman at home, or some such. Even most of the inexpensive tourist hotels want an authorization on a valid credit card for financial reasons, to recover their costs if you use the bed as an ashtray, play soccer with the TV with the window as your goalpost, steal the sheets, and run up a tab for booze and munchies. It also screens out people who a casino isn't interested in wasting a rooom on. For example, this is from the registration web page for the El Cortez, an inexpensive downtown joint: "GUESTS CHECKING IN MUST PRESENT A VALID CREDIT CARD." The all caps emphasis is theirs. They do mean must. I've been stuck in line behind little old ladies arguing with the desk staff when they weren't allowed to check-in becuase they didn't have any such card. Some places may allow you to fork over a sack of cash as a deposit in lieu of a card but many won't. I think the no-tell is more understanding of this problem of not wanting to introduce the girlfriend to the wife via a credit card bill, but I'd check ahead directly with them to be sure if I had that situation.

An authorization is not the same thing as putting through any charges to the card of course, but some of these deposits are put through as hard charges and reversed sometime after check out by the back office staff if nothing is owed on the folio, some make a token hard charge ($1 at the Plaza) just to verify the card, some just take an imprint and never run the card if they don't need to, and others just put an authorization "hold" on it without any charges if you are careful to take care of everything in cash. If this is important to someone, best talk to the individual hotel in detail in advance to be sure, and don't generalize from any of our individual experiences at individual hotels, becuase it varies from property to property and changes are made to a particular property's procedures from time to time.

I spend over 100 nights a year in hotel rooms all over the place, and I'm often surprised at what ends up being done with the folio (the guest bill) and my card, even at places I've stayed before.

Electrons 54
01-17-06, 23:30
I will be visiting Vegas in a few weeks, and always find time for a massage or two. I have one regular but continue to look for other providers and variations. Does anyone have information on a female named "Midori"? She claims to do the rub in the nude but can't get much other info from her. Also wondering about a black gal named "Rose" and a Japanese/American named "Lilly". Any information would be appreciated and I will let the board know of my experiences.

If it's the same Midori i had, she had a Japanese accent, says she's from Tokyo, who knows? any way, she's got a sweet voice, works out of motels out past the airport area, and has several tatoos.

Had a session with her about 6 months ago.

Speck
01-18-06, 01:58
My sour attitude about some aspects of their management approach really has nothing to do with the main purpose of this forum, and doesn't come from any experiences hooking up in there.

Well their gaming, particularly BJ sucks huge hairy ones. I stayed there because I got a average room rate of $62 a night last January over a 5 day period including weekends. My gaming mostly consisted of playing poker at the easily accessible Mirage poker room starting around 10pm. Usually by 1 or 2 am the mid limit holdem games($6-12 LHE and $10-20 LHE) games would break and I would drop down to $3-6 and get smashed on free drinks. Most of the time, I would carry on into near noon, stumble across LV Bl., pick up a quick burrito at Chipotle, head up to my room at Harrahs, scarf down the burrito, sleep from noon to 4pm, get up, expel said burrito by various means, pass out again, rinse, wash, repeat.

I can't figure out any reason to gamble at Harrahs.

Speck
01-18-06, 02:18
I will be in Vegas in February.

Stayed at Harrahs.

Can I get sp in my room.

What is sp?

Wastrel
01-18-06, 02:38
I stayed there because I got a average room rate of $62 a night last January over a 5 day period including weekends.Was that publicly available by some means or did you need to have an established 'player rating' of some kind with them? That's a really eye-popping good room rate to catch for that class accomodations in that location at that time of year when a weekend is included.

Cienega32
01-18-06, 03:15
I will be visiting Vegas in a few weeks, and always find time for a massage or two. I have one regular but continue to look for other providers and variations. Does anyone have information on a female named "Midori"? She claims to do the rub in the nude but can't get much other info from her. Also wondering about a black gal named "Rose" and a Japanese/American named "Lilly". Any information would be appreciated and I will let the board know of my experiences.

Midori (the Raiders fan) works in the NW area, according to her email to me. Lilly (The thick-azz Jap) can be found by the airport area and/or Southern Highlands but has some strange incall hours; she's mainly outcall and Rose I know nothing about.

Midori does no full service but I've seen one or two reviews of the "OK" variety. Only thing I've ever heard about Lilly is that she's thicker than one would expect.

I've tried none of them. Midori too far - Lilly too hard with incall hours for me.

EDIT: There might be more than one Midori but the one I mentioned ALWAYS has something about football/Raiders in her ads.

Cienega32
01-18-06, 03:38
Wastrel, as usual, hit it right on the head. When LE asks, you tell. If you need time for a record search, they'll be back. They'll come in and say something tricky like "Do you have any history on a Wastrel D. Monger?". From there, they expect and I mean that in legal terms, a definitive answer complete with dates, check-in info, number of guests, and anything else available that they may want.

If the guest has a history with security, they can have the guest record flagged for future reference or just a plain old "Go away" red flag.

Using a C/C at check-in but paying cash at check-out is common. Some people trash the room, split and leave the keys in the room; hoping to pull a fast one. They'll find some incidentals charged to their card in the near future. But if you're just an average Joe, you won't have any charges made other than maybe locking up some of your credit line.

You might want to consider using "2 guests" if you plan on having a friend overnite. They can, technically, have your overnite guest leave for not being a "registered guest" which just amounts to them being accounted for in a head count kind of way - not a "who is she" kind of way. But that's my "inside" opinion and view from a pre-2003 world. A POV from a monger's current position I can't say.

Dusty122
01-18-06, 12:50
What is sp?Working girl

Cienega32
01-18-06, 22:03
Working girl
That would be "wg" :D

Speck
01-19-06, 01:39
Was that publicly available by some means or did you need to have an established 'player rating' of some kind with them? That's a really eye-popping good room rate to catch for that class accomodations in that location at that time of year when a weekend is included.

The rate was via expedia. My total cost for 4 nights plus tax plus expedias fee was under 300.

As you probably know, hotel rates fluctuate like nuts. Every day, prices can change. For instance for Jan 17th-20th expedia had a average rate of $111 for MGM for a few days, then down to $104. Then, about the 10th, the rate jumped up to $180 and did not change.

When I visit, the less I spend on a room, the more I get to spend on gambling.

So I always search expedia, travelocity, vegas.com, i4vegas, bookvegas, hoteldiscounts, travelaxe, and each hotels web site. If I find a knockout rate, I book. If I can't get something mid strip under $100 a night, I stay downtown. The better rates I've stumbled across were $18 a night at Orleans, $72 a night over a five day period including weekends at Luxor, $19 a night at Stratosphere, $39 weeknight at Harrahs, and $34 on a Sunday at NYNY.

SeattleBigIrv
01-19-06, 09:22
www.sidestep.com and www.lastminutetravel.com

Both have had good numbers for me in recent searches.

SBI

Dusty122
01-19-06, 10:28
That would be "wg" :DCenega32,

Can I get WG in my room at Harrahs?

Wasobi
01-19-06, 17:05
Hey guys,

Coming to Vegas for the first time for my bro's bacheloer party in April. Are any of the girls on CL recommended? Or should we just fish from the casino bowl? Oh yeah either staying at T.I. or Harrahs.

IndyDave
01-19-06, 19:37
Also, you might consider travelaxe.com, which looks across several hotel/travel sites and finds the best deal for each casino/hotel, and tripreservations.com, which I have used on most trips to LV...TripReservations has a bit of a steep cancellation rate, though, at $50.


www.sidestep.com and www.lastminutetravel.com

Both have had good numbers for me in recent searches.

SBI

Webcams
01-19-06, 22:34
I spend over 100 nights a year in hotel rooms all over the place, and I'm often surprised at what ends up being done with the folio (the guest bill) and my card, even at places I've stayed before.
It's always wise when using a Credit Card to assume some charges may end up on the card after all the employees could care less about what you may or may not want and can be very careless, not to mention some Hotels "lock Up" your line for a certain amount till you check to be sure they get paid.
Some Hotels will register you as NRG, Or Not Registered Guest, if anyone calls for you there you never show up not sure if they reserve that for the Players or everyone but if discretion is required it's worth a try.

Speck
01-20-06, 04:57
Cenega32,

Can I get WG in my room at Harrahs?

You can get a "companion" into your room at any hotel in Vegas.

The only time security will ever care is if the girl is know to rip off guys. Then they may recognize her and warn you. If that is the case, you should be very happy for their help.

If you are staying at Harrahs, put your arm around the girl or hold her hand, flash your key, and take your wife for the night to your room.

Seamuso
01-21-06, 02:31
Thanks for the information all you experienced LV mongers.

It looks like Circus Circus might be a good base and if they charge my credit card, it doesn't look as sleazy as Oasis Motel

Seamuso

Wastrel
01-23-06, 20:51
The Stardust has a midweek room special at $49 through March 3rd (enter the word "WINTER" as a rate code online) and I'm a little tempted to take them up on it to spend a night there thrashing around on a bed with someone or other just once before they turn it into a hole in the ground and send the sign to the museum, but I looked at the traveller's comments on tripadvisor.com and the most recent reviewer mentions that they have security at the elevators actually having people scan their key cards before going upstairs. I'm not sure I believe that, since I've never seen that done anywhere in town, ever. Asking to SEE a key card as you walk by, yes, at some places, and that's never been a problem with a companion on my arm, just as described by Speck below, but to actually scan it for anyone getting on the elevator? That'd be very unusual, to put it mildly, and I'm thinking that reviewer mispoke or was confused somehow. Does anyone here have any personal experience as a guest at this hotel? I'd be a little disappointed to go to the trouble to take a room only to discover that I can only use it for sleeping and pilfering a souvenier ashtray.

Mike 80
01-23-06, 21:50
...the most recent reviewer mentions that they have security at the elevators actually having people scan their key cards before going upstairs. I'm not sure I believe that, since I've never seen that done anywhere in town, ever. Asking to SEE a key card as you walk by, yes, at some places, and that's never been a problem with a companion on my arm, just as described by Speck below, but to actually scan it for anyone getting on the elevator? That'd be very unusual, to put it mildly
Agreed. I've never seen that practice before even at the really high-end places. I've come across a couple of places that want to see more than just a room card, like documentation that shows you're actually a guest of the hotel right now. That's a pretty comparable level of security to scanning the card. Although my mongering instincts are in conflict here, I actually kind of like the fact that some casino hotels are trying to go the extra step and provide greater assurance of their guests' security by doing something like scanning the card or requiring other proof of current guest status. I always thought the room key waving exercise was pretty weak. Overall (and granted I guess we still don't know if the Stardust anecdote is even correct) I'll give the heightened security check a mild thumbs up. Of course if the trend gains popularity, maybe it'll soon be time to ditch my extensive collection of room keys saved for just these kinds of situations where I'm bringing a CG/SW up to the room.

Speaking of an uptick in security level, I visited LV Harrahs last week and was surprised to see a security officer at the entrance of the Self Park requiring every visitor to produce a room key, players card, or other proof of guest status before they'd let them enter the garage. Didn't appear to be just a formality either. The security guys really seemed to be taking it seriously. Wonder if some event triggered this move.

Wastrel
01-23-06, 22:37
...I visited LV Harrahs last week and was surprised to see a security officer at the entrance of the Self Park requiring every visitor to produce a room key, players card, or other proof of guest status before they'd let them enter the garage. Didn't appear to be just a formality either. The security guys really seemed to be taking it seriously. Wonder if some event triggered this move.I don't know about that specific property at that particular time, but sometimes the event that triggers this for a while is simply a large convention that causes a problem with people from a neighboring property poaching on the parking to such an extent that registered guests can't get in. I know that in some cases it's even the employees that contribute to the problem when they don't want to use the more remote surface lot like they're supposed to at some properties.

I have mixed feelings about the whole business too, depending on whether I want to sleep well at night or am looking to do the opposite. Comes down to using good judgement I think. Besides the everyday mundane misbehavior and some criminal stuff that's bound to happen to some extent in a 5,000 room 24 hr casino/resort, I'd like to believe that Akmed Al'Kaboom would have a few questions to answer when pulling in with a Ryder truck full of fertilizer, as I'd take it personally if someone imploded any part of the town ahead of schedule and incinerated some of my neighbors in the process.

Webcams
01-24-06, 13:16
Wierd to think that we could be a target of these wackos but taking out a big Vegas hotel would look good for the terror freaks both international and our own home breed wackos the religious right is just as likely to pull something off in there deranged minds Sin City is a target. Hopefully and thankfully Vegas is well aware that they can not afford any kind of attack, tourism is such a huge part of Vegas any succesful attack would hurt Vegas for years. Vegas tries to make it's visitors feel safe by piling on visible security everywhere, and responding to any problems on the Strip with a huge priority, when you have a town that never sleeps and millions of people with large sums of cash walking around at all hours Security is a major issue. I feel safe everytime I am in Vegas, I thank my monger skills for knowing which part's off town are seedy, which in turn keeps me out of trouble. Only a true local knows every street and which to avoid I am thankful for all the advice everyone gives, I do have a question about the new residential mix properties going up closer to the stratosphere end of the strip I would assume LE activity is picking up there to clean up the area, might not be the case but just checking.

Speck
01-24-06, 20:48
Speaking of an uptick in security level, I visited LV Harrahs last week and was surprised to see a security officer at the entrance of the Self Park requiring every visitor to produce a room key, players card, or other proof of guest status before they'd let them enter the garage. Didn't appear to be just a formality either. The security guys really seemed to be taking it seriously. Wonder if some event triggered this move.

Its been like that for at least a few years. They have a small parking lot and only let registered guests park there. Seems kinda odd and contrary to standard business practices really. I find the best thing to do in that area of the strip is to park at any of the following:

Valet

Imperial Palace - smallish casino and really easy to cross through the casino out to the strip.

Mirage - Long ass walk from the parking lot to the other end of the casino, but super easy access to the strip by passing the poker room, cpk, and the tiger display. Very safe parking lot

Bellagio - They will check your trunk. Parking is VERY close to the casino. Lots of eye candy and very safe. Easy to access the strip by walking across the casino and using the bridges. Once you get to the bridges, its a 10 minute walk to Mirage and vice versa.

One lot to be avoided is Venetian. That place is freaking humongous and it will take you forever just to get from your parking spot to the strip.

One Wing Low
01-25-06, 02:16
Potter William S, ESQ
Las Vegas, NV 89101-0000
(702) 733-3903

Jerry T McGimsey, ESQ
The Legal Clinic
2797 S Maryland Pkwy, Suite 12
Las Vegas, NV 89109

They will appear in court on your behalf and negotiate to a plea of jay walking or the like, a suspended sentence and fine reduced to $500.

I could not get Jerry's phone number. A name search showed he graduated from Las Vegas High School in 1965, which would put him at about 60 years old.

Here's the link to attorneys in LV:

http://www.sbn.com/listings/702/list/022730_2.html

Shop them carefully and report your results to help your bro mongers who got fucked up their asses by the sadistic homos in LV City Council and PD.

Ricksone
01-25-06, 12:34
I posted this in another city and thought it might be useful here.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10879309/

What a nightmare this could become. Say you go see a gal at her location, walk out to leave and a news crew had set up an appointment with her and start taping you coming out. They may want to interview you, makes you guilty in front of everyone that see the news. Even though this is a victimless crime it would make them a great story.

Scary

R

rubyrod
01-26-06, 09:00
After browsing the Las Vegas forum for a while I was not shure what I would end up paying or how to not get ripped off by an escort service.

Used the Craigslist to find a provider. Got the price to .2k with ease. How ever - had not seen her face.

When I opened my hotel door - behold: an ebony gem! She was an absoute 9. Nice firm rack and killer RE. We laughed and fooled around with her stripping. Gave me the best CBJTC to this date. Did RCG and DS. Very nice.

So - paying more than .2k in this city is not neccessary. And roaming for overpriced CG seems futile.

Speck
01-27-06, 04:12
#1. Black girl.
#2. Rip off occurences via incall to your hotel are extremely high.

Basically you got lucky....you bucked the variance, so to speak.

Much like BJ is a very high variance game and only slightly -ev, and therefore some people will get lucky and win...5, 10 times in a row even. But most will break even or lose. A few will lose a ton. You were one of the lucky ones. Really, without experience and TONS of research, most guys will lose out on the incall escorts to the guys hotel.


After browsing the Las Vegas forum for a while I was not shure what I would end up paying or how to not get ripped off by an escort service.

Used the Craigslist to find a provider. Got the price to .2k with ease. How ever - had not seen her face.

When I opened my hotel door - behold: an ebony gem! She was an absoute 9. Nice firm rack and killer RE. We laughed and fooled around with her stripping. Gave me the best CBJTC to this date. Did RCG and DS. Very nice.

So - paying more than .2k in this city is not neccessary. And roaming for overpriced CG seems futile.

Vanderley
02-06-06, 05:58
Huge story on Fox 13 News about InCall Apts around town. They call it "Girls Next Door" or something or another. Hidden spy cameras and all. Talk about having a heart attack seeing yourself spotlighted on the news coming out of an inconspicuous wh_re house in town. They showcased one of the more popular spots a lot of us are familiar with -- it's no wonder they suddenly moved locations recently.

The reporter said they are going to start investigating more thoroughly to see if any of these places are linked to organized crime and such. You can expect more and more (LE affiliated) stings in weeks to come I assume. I would lay low for a while if I were you.

In the meantime, happy mongering.

Muggs
02-06-06, 11:09
Huge story on Fox 13 News about InCall Apts around town. They call it "Girls Next Door" or something or another. Hidden spy cameras and all. Talk about having a heart attack seeing yourself spotlighted on the news coming out of an inconspicuous wh_re house in town. They showcased one of the more popular spots a lot of us are familiar with -- it's no wonder they suddenly moved locations recently.

The reporter said they are going to start investigating more thoroughly to see if any of these places are linked to organized crime and such. You can expect more and more (LE affiliated) stings in weeks to come I assume. I would lay low for a while if I were you.

In the meantime, happy mongering.

And I wonder how did they get that info?? Guys talk to much on an open board.

Jayste2
02-06-06, 13:18
And I wonder how did they get that info?? Guys talk to much on an open board.Yea, guys and greedy cabbies, the report showed a cab driver suggesting a private house and taking the customer to the house for a 2.5 charge which he gets a fat 100 KB.

Vegas Black
02-06-06, 14:25
They hyped that report during the SuperBowl.

I dont think they are getting info from this board. The Report showed Local TaxiCab Drivers CBing each other on location of these places.

There was no mention about the Internet.

Keep safe out there LE is on a Warpath!

Wastrel
02-06-06, 20:29
This has been popping up in cities around the country. I think this little public relations puff piece in the local lefty rag City Life last week gives some unintentional insight into why and how this is getting attention, both here and elsewhere. Some "progressive-feminist" activist groups and publicly funded "victim advocate" professionals are latching on to incall services and characterizing this as an issue of "slavery" and "violence against women." Whether there actually is some of that involved, I really wouldn't know, since I don't know much about the workings of the incall business, but I do know the origin of the money and the spin used in this approach comes from Clinton's "Violence against Women Act" which began the flow of a boatload of money to publicly subsidize positions for hundreds of highly paid "victim advocates" around the country recruited from feminist pressure groups and the chronically underemployed from college sociology and women's studies departments, who now have a lot of time on their hands seeking to find "exploited victims" to be "helped" by them to keep the gravy train of money flowing to those whose profession is to be permanently outraged in public.

http://www.lvcitylife.com/articles/2006/02/02/local_news/shrapnel/shrapnel.txt

COALITION TACKLES HUMAN TRAFFICKING

Do you ever wonder if any of those government-sponsored announcements and initiatives make a difference? When it comes to the problem of human trafficking in Nevada, there's some good news.

Since the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services announced last February that Las Vegas is one of 17 cities suspected of being a hotbed for modern slavery, coalitions formed, grant money flowed and agencies have scrambled to attack the problem. For instance, during the 2005 session the state Legislature passed Senate Bill 456, which places stricter penalties on the existing involuntary servitude law, essentially criminalizing human trafficking.

"It's great that there's a law criminalizing it, but as a victim's advocate, I think the piece that would offer protection to victims is missing," says Namju Cho, communications and policy director for the Coalition to Abolish Slavery & Trafficking (CAST) of Los Angeles.

CAST was one of many organizations represented at the Nevada Coalition Against Sexual Violence's fifth annual conference. The 7-year-old state coalition offers training opportunities for people in jobs who meet victims of sexual violence, like police, attorneys, doctors, community organization members and others.

Human trafficking was a major focus of this year's conference in which Cho, accompanied by survivor Flor (who asked to only use her first name out of fear of retribution), made presentations during several sessions of the three-day event from Jan. 30 to Feb. 1.

"It is an emerging issue in Nevada," says Terri Miller, a coalition training services coordinator who planned this year's conference. "We want to make sure that these issues are being taken seriously."

Miller says Cho and her colleagues at CAST have played an important part in educating Nevada government agencies, law enforcement and community groups who may come in contact with victims. This year was the fourth time CAST had participated in the conference, which usually draws around 90 participants. (In fact, one such participant this year was state Sen. [and Democratic gubernatorial candidate] Dina Titus.)

Miller has also represented Nevada on the national level. She was present at the White House on Jan. 9 when President Bush signed the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2005, which allocates $361 million for the next two years for programs fighting human trafficking.

According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, trafficking victims are involuntarily exploited for profit. It is not the same as immigrant smuggling. Victims are found in nearly all service industries around the world including construction, prostitution, manufacturing, restaurant and domestic labor industries. Las Vegas' sudden trafficking boom is tied to its population growth, tourism and entertainment industries. Locally, the most common forms of trafficking are for prostitution (many victims are younger than 18 and moved in brothel rings from state to state) and construction work.

Cho says the sexual violence coalition's work is a good sign for Nevada, but more needs to be done. Through CAST, Cho helped write California's new human trafficking law and she hopes it will serve as a model for other states, including Nevada. And if one of her conversations with a local law enforcement officer is any indication, Nevada legislators will be adding more provisions to protect victims in the next session.

"There's always those issues of how we enforce it," Cho says. "We need to collect better data. We need to find them [the victims] because they're invisible."

BigGuy
02-10-06, 22:09
Hello to all,

I was wondering if maybe Wastrel, Vanderley, Muggs, or Speck, all being Senior members, would have any info for the North Las Vegas area?

I'll be staying out there in march at the Barcelona. I'm in town for the NASCAR race, and I figured I would stay closer to the track.

Now, I already know the Barcelona is a s***hole, but I figured maybe there would be some "trailer trash" staying there looking to make a few extra bucks to buy her favorite "Dale Jr." t-shirt.

Way back in '97 I picked up this doped up crack w***e at (brace yourselves) the Clubhouse Tavern. She needed a place to stay for the nite and in return I got to do things with/ to her that would make a porn star blush!

Anyway, just wondering if you guys had any input??

Don't worry, I'm coming back out in april and I already have my reservations for HOOTERS. I'm going to try and get a "bridge girl" or a CW to come back to the room and put on a HOOTERS girl outfit while we go at it!!

I'll update you guys on that in late april!

Thanks in advance and good luck to all!
BIGGUY

Wastrel
02-11-06, 04:44
I'll be staying out there in march at the Barcelona. I'm in town for the NASCAR race, and I figured I would stay closer to the track.

Now, I already know the Barcelona is a s***hole, but I figured maybe there would be some "trailer trash" staying there looking to make a few extra bucks to buy her favorite "Dale Jr." t-shirt.Good plan.

I like that sleazy joint, even if I'm not sure exactly why. I was meaning to post something about it, especially after I scored a twofer with a pair of (sort of) non-pro sisters there last year who were recent arrivals in town running low on rent and gambling money. I guess the accommodations can't be all that sleazy, since the sign on the hotel says it's AAA approved, right?

The neighborhood around the Barcelona was a good SW area for a while, then cooled off after complaints from irate citizens generated some excessive publicity: http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-01-Sun-2005/news/26386338.html You can also read some posts about the area in the archived 2005 streetwalker thread in early May, around the time of this post: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=355792&postcount=15

There is still SW activity on Craig Road and Nellis Blvd near there, but it is sporadic and undependable. Ladies working the streets are mostly BSWs from the trashy blocks of apartments in walking distance. The patrons inside the Barcelona tend to be a mixed crowd white/black. Wonder how the residents of the nearby ghetto type housing projects who go to drink and play the slots while listening to the band that does covers of old Motown tunes several nights a week will mix with the NASCAR groupies?

Later you can let me know about the food in the little diner in the casino. Looks like it might be a spot to get some cheap slop while out chasing hookers late at night, but I haven't gotten around to trying it.

BigGuy
02-11-06, 15:36
Thanks for the info, Wastrel

I'll give you all a full report when i get back from the trip!!

Good luck, BIGGUY

WordUp
02-12-06, 13:46
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During the more boring moments of the SuperBowl, about ten of us made plans to visit Atlantic City, instead of Vegas, because there is "NO SW ACTION". If the police are as HOT on clearing out Vegas SW traffic, then we will drop our gambling money in Atlantic City.

We all check this Board, and thus made plans for A 5 day gambling trip, and as of A few days ago, the plans are paid for and we are going. If the Casino Owners would realize that Vegas is "SIN CITY" NOT Family take your kids to City.

PUT the SW action in a "RED LIGHT" area, and I would be taking 2-3 trips a years to Vegas for Gambling, SW Action, the Buffets, and just being in the Fast Pace Action of Vegas. How MUCH MORE MONEY, is LOST because other than Gambling, there is NO SIn in Sin City.

The BUNNY RANCHES are just far too Expensive.

DON'T THE CASINO OWNERS GET IT !!!! SEX MAKES MONEY DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY.


WORD .... Cincinnati, Ohio


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Speck
02-12-06, 18:10
WTF are you talking about? Have you EVER stayed at a decent hotel on the strip?

High end "casino girls" at Ceasars, Bellagio, etc. Expensive, but still cheaper than the ranches.

Lower end girls working at Luxor, MGM, Flamingo, etc. Walk by Flamingo at 3am on a weekend. Anything you want for $200 fs.

If you wanted a bargain, forget about it.

If you want a cg at Orleans or some other similiar off strip casino, forget about it.

If you want a cg at the current hot spot, ie Palms or Hard Rock forget about it. CG's have no desire to complete with normal women just as hot, and no desire to pork some 21 year old who already overstretched their budget by staying at a hotel they can't afford.

There is no "red zone" in Vegas because it is not necessary.


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During the more boring moments of the SuperBowl, about ten of us made plans to visit Atlantic City, instead of Vegas, because there is "NO SW ACTION". If the police are as HOT on clearing out Vegas SW traffic, then we will drop our gambling money in Atlantic City.

We all check this Board, and thus made plans for A 5 day gambling trip, and as of A few days ago, the plans are paid for and we are going. If the Casino Owners would realize that Vegas is "SIN CITY" NOT Family take your kids to City.

PUT the SW action in a "RED LIGHT" area, and I would be taking 2-3 trips a years to Vegas for Gambling, SW Action, the Buffets, and just being in the Fast Pace Action of Vegas. How MUCH MORE MONEY, is LOST because other than Gambling, there is NO SIn in Sin City.

The BUNNY RANCHES are just far too Expensive.

DON'T THE CASINO OWNERS GET IT !!!! SEX MAKES MONEY DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY.


WORD .... Cincinnati, Ohio


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Payforfun
02-21-06, 15:13
[QUOTE=BigGuy]
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Don't worry, I'm coming back out in april and I already have my reservations for HOOTERS. I'm going to try and get a "bridge girl" or a CW to come back to the room and put on a HOOTERS girl outfit while we go at it!!

A 'Bridge girl", lol that cracked me up. There weren't that many bridges when I was there last in 95'; just mainly down by the Tropicana/MGM/Across the street. But, they have done 'some building since then ;)

A Bridge girl might save me $.50 before she goes in to become a CG, lol

Mike 80
02-26-06, 20:36
WTF are you talking about? Have you EVER stayed at a decent hotel on the strip? High end "casino girls" at Ceasars, Bellagio, etc. Expensive, but still cheaper than the ranches.
Lower end girls working at Luxor, MGM, Flamingo, etc. Walk by Flamingo at 3am on a weekend. Anything you want for $200 fs. If you wanted a bargain, forget about it. If I take WordUp's choice of acronym at face value ("SWs"), I agree with him. I visit Vegas a lot and am in AC almost every week. I come to Vegas for the gambling not the SWs. I love Vegas but AC street action is MUCH better than LV. No comparison. I agree that if you're looking to spend $$ and up, there's plenty of good stuff available but street action - disappointingly spotty at best. I do agree that the ranches are a joke however.

Wayward One
03-02-06, 12:20
Stayed for a couple of days on the south side of the strip, mostly gambling. Having made some money playing Craps and poker, i decided to sample the local scene.

While walking through the pyramid, i was approached by Bridgette, a striking tall redhead. We went back to the casino I was staying at and agreed on $ for BJ. it was nicely done, and then she was gone, gotta love it. (she had wanted $$$ for fs, and i would have said yes to $$).

While travelling back through the pyramid on my way to the castle, I was approached by 2 more CG, wanting $$$ for one or $$$$$ for both of them. having just finished wth bridgette less than a half-hour before, I wasn't eager, but these two were hot. One was named Mercades, I can't remember the other. they had a rather intruiging idea when I tried to tell them that i didn't have a room, get a limo .7$ for the limo for the hour, and 5$ for the both of them. I declined but that was the first time i've heard of this.

More on the AMPs later

Wayward One

IndyDave
03-02-06, 21:27
Hey, thanks....Pyramid is where I'll be tonite...talked to a couple of hotties at the Pink Bird...when they heard I was staying at that Town place (Comped) on the South BH, they dropped me quick....Maybe II'll lhave better luck tonite.... Metro and cold weather have pretty much clearned up the SW scene? Not seeing SWs around Hard Rock, BH, Downtown or ???? disappointing....

Muggs
03-07-06, 01:58
Crossroads Jone/Flamingo and Jones/Spring Mountain. I have spotted what I believe 80% to be SW. I was at the AmPm on Flamingo and this young lady about a 6 is walking towards my car. Give me the look....

A blond walking towards Flamingo going North she's looking at traffic giving guys the eye....

Spring Mountain and Jones, bus stop...a guy pulls into Walgreens...out comes a lady that fit the SW description. She gets out and gives traffic the look...and sits at the bus stop...

7-11 on Jones and Spring Mountain by DQ, a lady is on the phone...guy after guy rides by...she gives the look...finally she walks toward the gas station goes in and leaves with a guy who was in the store.

Possible SWs at the 7-11 on Jones/Flamingo...hanging in the parking lot....

Just a few observations....

PsyberZombie
03-07-06, 08:45
they had a rather intruiging idea when I tried to tell them that i didn't have a room, get a limo .7$ for the limo for the hour, and 5$ for the both of them. I declined but that was the first time i've heard of this.

This practice comes highly recommended = by Yours Truly , natch !! =>

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=301189&postcount=1584

skillzisme
03-08-06, 01:41
Hey guys,

I've been in Vegas the past few days at the mirage convention. I've been looking to pick up a CG but have had no luck. I went through the reports on here, but things aren't working. Any suggestions? Do i stay near the tables, or near the sports bar? Do they come out during the day? Any help would be greatly aprreciated.

Thanks

Lotsoffun201
03-08-06, 01:48
There is never a shortage particularly at the Mirage and Bellagio. Since the interior renovations at the Mirage were being done there were a few less and they tended to hang at the sports bar. At the Bellagio, they are at the Baccarat bar. Just look for a gal playing one coin at a time, usually with a purse, coat and cell phone. A bit of eye contact and you are on your way. Actually one of my fav spectator sports in this town!

Wastrel
03-08-06, 04:08
...I've been looking to pick up a CG but have had no luck... Any suggestions?...That's a little surprising, since I never thought of the Mirage as a kiddie-land family oriented vacation spot, in spite of that insipid cartoonish annoying volcano, but it can happen temporarily at any property for a little while for one reason or another. Maybe the Mirage is also hosting meetings of police officials in one ballroom and nuns in another this particular week. It happens sometimes, but not too often. I haven't been in there in a while, so I wouldn't have any advice on what spot in that casino, but it's usually not hard to figure out in any major Strip resorts for those who are looking.

Or here's another theory to try to explain a temporary drought where you're at: maybe the opposite happened, and instead of being temporarily chased out of that place, perhaps they all flocked to the Riviera to a convention/event booked by some outfit called "Passion Parties" which is supposed to have more than 1,000 attendees at this time according to the LV Convention & Visitor's Authority, and which is described this way on the company's web site (http://www.passionparties.com/) "Passion Parties is the premier sensual products, party-plan company in the United States and Canada. For more than a decade, our Passion Consultants™ have been enhancing the sexual relationships of our clients with sensual products designed to promote intimacy and communication between couples..." I don't know exactly what that means, so I'm just guessing, but it does sound like an event where a lady of easy virtue could easily get hard used and all worn out for the night.

Have you tried other venues, like maybe mid Strip around the Flamingo, including the back bar inside there and cruising the walkways outside it heading towards Bally's and the Bellagio and Ceasars? Or late at night and further south from there, the circular bar in the center of the Aladdin, say after one a.m. or so? See a suitable unaccompanied female, smile and leer shamelessly at your favorite body part, that's OK to do, and she'll be all over it right away if she's working and you don't look homeless and broke or sick and deranged.

P.S. "Passion Consultant?" I couldn't resist clicking on the link to check the employment opportunities for that gig, thinking that many industrious ladies in town of my aquaintence could put that on a business card already, and I found this job description: "A Passion Parties® business is a flexible way to earn extra income or start a new career." [Yeah, sounds good, my dear friend Pina-the-ho qualifies so far] "We have part and full-time consultants, and those that work their Passion Parties business along-side another job." [OK, no problem, Pina is still on board] "We offer ordinary women the opportunity to live extraordinary lifestyles by owning and managing their own businesses—while promoting sexual awareness and well-being." [Pina still sounds well qualified with lots of experience in that department] "Our direct-selling business model provides generous rewards and recognition for our independent consultants." [Yup, Pina baby is down with all that, so do they have a dental plan?]

Speck
03-08-06, 23:55
Hey guys,
Do they come out during the day?
Thanks

No, they don't. Do not even bother.

To add to what the other posters said, if you have bank to drop(at least $300, probably more like $500), try Bellagio.....weekends are best, but any night around 10pm-midnight at the bars is good. Or if you do not want to spend that much try around Harrahs and Flamingo area. The girls are more prone to be walking around inside or outside there. The timing for those places is 1am ish to about 5am or so. $200 will get it done there.

Mirage sometimes chases the working girls away. BTW, if you meet a girl at Bellagio, use a cab to get back to the room. For $300-500 most girls will go with you, but will not really want to walk the 10 minutes or so(but I suppose you can always ask).

The Screws
03-15-06, 15:35
Heading out to the Rio next week...

What would be the closest amp? Walking distance?

Any of the bars at the Rio have late night action?


any info appreciated...

SewerRat
03-15-06, 16:13
I will also be at the Rio in a couple of weeks. Any suggestions for action in the area would be appreciated.

S. Rat

Lotsoffun201
03-15-06, 17:48
I have heard on another board that VIP massage on Valley View is pretty good. I have no personal knowlege though. Perhaps others here do.

Electrons 54
03-15-06, 19:49
I will also be at the Rio in a couple of weeks. Any suggestions for action in the area would be appreciated.

S. Rat

The great majority of the AMP, FMP etc. just about any place that has a store front location, you can get hj but it's expensive. I'd say the going rate is .60, of course they will ask for more. If that's your boat, it's cool, but don't expect FS from them because they are pretty rare. If you do find one, it will be as high as the ones below.

If you are looking to score w/in the casinos w/ pros. let me say that the best looking ones are at the most expensive places in town. From mostly the Belligio and Wynn that I've seen, w/o a doubt 9 and 10's on just about any body's scale. They will ask around 5 large perhaps even more. Probably will settle for around 300 and perhaps even 200 depending on how their night is going. Note Fri and Sat are prime night, so they do tend to ask for more, just because of the volume of traffic.

Just my 2 cents, and I wish some one would have told me this before I spent a lot of my money, from this school of hard knocks. Final note, tons of escorts working for agencies, i'm sure i don't have to warn you about them.

Whoah28
03-15-06, 23:35
I picked up a little hottie in RIO. (walking with a freind which was a bit chunky) this hottie was a nice spinner in her 20s, dirty blonde, wearin jeans and heals & drunk. She was shaved and tasty. She played her money game so talk first before you let her enter your room. her name was amanda. (oh it was 4-5:00AM) hope that helps.

AMP.. Ocean Spa, on that road, at the intersection of Jones?... behind the Arbys, in the strip mall, but there others on the south part of the road. I wouldn't walk to any of those. TS extra $$. Good massage but some gals are a bit older there.

The Screws
03-16-06, 11:19
Thanks guys.....love the feed back...

"shaved and tasty" my favorite...

Member #5046
03-19-06, 14:07
I was interested in the migration pattern of the Hotel bar girls. I was planning on being in vegas in a couple of weeks and I was curious to know the best spot to find a lower priced bar girl , around $ to $.5. I usually hang out on the sahara end of the strip. In the past I have always had good luck in the Sahara, however I was there a couple months ago and there was nothing. I decided to check out the Stardust,even though I never see anything there.

I was surprised to see the bar there was packed with working girls.

Fullerene
03-20-06, 02:11
I will be in LV in a couple of weeks, I am wondering if there is any action at N.Y., N.Y., or very close by?

Thank you,

Gregger

Mike 80
03-20-06, 04:00
While I was in LV this weekend heard news that a Clark County prostitution ordinance has been overturned as unconstitutional (7-0 vote). This extremely vague law basically gave LE the ability to arrest anyone who in LE's opinion looked like a SW. Maybe this ordinance is one of the reasons LV has one of the spottiest and least impressive SW scenes of any city its size. Again I'm talking classic SWs, not CGs, escorts, or bar girls who from time to time work the casino walkways or step out in front of the Strip hotels.

The Prosecutor's office said they plan to work on a new ordinance to replace this one, but other sources indicated that creating a ordinance that holds up will not be easy.

PsyberZombie
03-20-06, 09:39
While I was in LV this weekend heard news that a Clark County prostitution ordinance has been overturned as unconstitutional (7-0 vote)

Thanks for the 'Heads Up' , M·80 !!

Here are a few relevant Links =


http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Mar-17-Fri-2006/news/6409616.html

http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/article/20060317/REGION/103170047



Laissez les bons temps roulez !!!

Wastrel
03-20-06, 13:02
Uh, no; not really what it sounds like. I've followed this case because I found it interesting, but it's not very significant, except to legal academics. It is only a little used "loitering with intent" nuisance statute that was tossed, and the law in Clark County and Las Vegas remains about the same as it was and is most everywhere else. The practical effect of this judicial action is about the same as would be the repeal of a law against jaywalking or littering or obstructing traffic: something generally used only as a fallback to chase someone away for the moment when they know they're up to something else but can't prove it, and a handy excuse to do a search and check for wants and warrants.

It has absolutely no effect whatsoever on customers and very minimal effect, if any, on working girls. These "loitering for the purpose of..." statutes, where they exist, are used as a minor harassment tool when LE is unsucessful in getting the evidence required to sustain a prostitution bust, and of course the customer (that would be you) is not the one doing the loitering subject to the statute that was overturned for vagueness. If someone misinterprets this to mean there's some kind of open season for publicly soliciting SWs in a very indiscrete manner they are likely to be staying in Vegas rather longer than they planned, in an orange jumpsuit and plastic sandals.


Maybe this ordinance is one of the reasons LV has one of the spottiest and least impressive SW scenes of any city its size.Ah, well, I wonder what size someone thinks it is. It's grown a lot, but the lights of the casinos may give the illusion that it's a bigger city than what actually exists. The city contained a little over 475,000 residents at last census, and the entire metro area including suburbs is close to 1.5 million. The total Las Vegas metro area is just about the same size as Portland, Oregon and Sacramento, California. Do you feel it has less SW activity than those places? It is still A LOT smaller than Seattle and Denver and Salt Lake City and Phoenix, with much less than half the population of those cities, but I believe it tends to have at least as much SW activity, and probably more, than any of them. But if someone has a fantasy about it being some kind of spectacular SW playground completely unlike any other city, then they will most likely be disappointed. As with any town, the SW game depends a lot on very specific local knowledge and takes a lot more time and effort than many casual visitors would care to invest in my opinion, just like anywhere else.

It is also somewhat seasonal, tapering off in the winter and picking up in the summer, which is something I've never understood for a town in the middle of the Mohave desert.

Cienega32
03-20-06, 18:41
Wasn't there something similar to this in L.A. last year (THEY got it tough with this hobby)?

Being the defining aspects were so subjective, people were getting hassled for asking directions, for the time, and even for front seat blowjobs.

It's been awhile since I cruised that forum but I'm sure there's enough L.A. folk here to straighten me out. Electrons54?

Mike 80
03-20-06, 20:38
...the entire metro area including suburbs is close to 1.5 million...But if someone has a fantasy about it being some kind of spectacular SW playground completely unlike any other city, then they will most likely be disappointed. As with any town, the SW game depends a lot on very specific local knowledge and takes a lot more time and effort than many casual visitors would care to invest in my opinion, just like anywhere else. Wastrel,
LV still does strike me as something of a small city, probably primarily the result of the small downtown area and the low profile of its downtown buildings. But that said, 1.5 million is a lot of people. Why the reference (apparently to me) having "a fantasy about it being...a spectacular SW playground completely unlike any other city?" Huh?

I love LV and am there almost every month. But as one recent poster put it, this is Sin City we're talking about. There must be 50 pages of escort ads in the yellow pages. There are also plenty of people down on their luck, lots of shaky areas, the kinds of places experienced mongers recognize as prime SW breeding grounds. I don't know all of the spots in Vegas but I know many of them -- a few of which I give credit to you for identifying. Still, I find it easy to spend a couple of hours of dedicated hunting and not turn up a single decent option. Happened this weekend in fact, although I finally did come across a couple of good prospects (posted in the Streetwalker thread).

To give just one stark, somewhat apples to apples comparison, on any given night and certainly on weekends, there are at least 3 times as many SWs walking the 2 mile Pacific Ave stroll in Atlantic City as a monger is likely to find canvassing the many scattered strolls in Vegas. AC SW quality is generally good, although the quantity definitely seems to have taken a hit in recent months after the arrest of the LV and East Coast-based "International Pimp of the Year." AC's actual population is, what, maybe 50-100k?

Yeah, sometimes the LV batting average is higher and there is a noticeable seasonal effect. I'm not looking for any "spectacular playground," but somehow I never get over being surprised at the overall weakness (quantity and quality) of the Vegas SW scene. It's not horrible and I certainly still monger there on visits when I have time on my own. But I stand by my comment that compared to other large cities I visit, over the last couple of years the LV SW scene is below average to average at best.

Speck
03-20-06, 21:45
I will be in LV in a couple of weeks, I am wondering if there is any action at N.Y., N.Y., or very close by?

Thank you,

Gregger

After 1am...sometimes a bit later. If cold out, then there will not be too much on the bridges. Try bars at NYNY, MGM, Luxor. All within easy traveling distance. Take the tram from Excalibur to Luxor to avoid the cold. Quote will start at $$$$$. Negotiate down to $$$, possibly $$. Don't expect less. They will go to your room. Make sure you store all valuables except the immediate money in your safe.

Speck
03-20-06, 21:48
The small sw population is kinda a fallacy....downtown and Boulder have tons of sw, just not all are out at all times. But at certain times you can drive LV Bl down to Sams Town and see 30 or more sw.

Also, there are very few higher end sw becuase the casinos are easy pickings.


Wastrel,
LV still does strike me as something of a small city, probably primarily the result of the small downtown area and the low profile of its downtown buildings. But that said, 1.5 million is a lot of people. Why the reference (apparently to me) having "a fantasy about it being...a spectacular SW playground completely unlike any other city?" Huh?

I love LV and am there almost every month. But as one recent poster put it, this is Sin City we're talking about. There must be 50 pages of escort ads in the yellow pages. There are also plenty of people down on their luck, lots of shaky areas, the kinds of places experienced mongers recognize as prime SW breeding grounds. I don't know all of the spots in Vegas but I know many of them -- a few of which I give credit to you for identifying. Still, I find it easy to spend a couple of hours of dedicated hunting and not turn up a single decent option. Happened this weekend in fact, although I finally did come across a couple of good prospects (posted in the Streetwalker thread).

To give just one stark, somewhat apples to apples comparison, on any given night and certainly on weekends, there are at least 3 times as many SWs walking the 2 mile Pacific Ave stroll in Atlantic City as a monger is likely to find canvassing the many scattered strolls in Vegas. AC SW quality is generally good, although the quantity definitely seems to have taken a hit in recent months after the arrest of the LV and East Coast-based "International Pimp of the Year." AC's actual population is, what, maybe 50-100k?

Yeah, sometimes the LV batting average is higher and there is a noticeable seasonal effect. I'm not looking for any "spectacular playground," but somehow I never get over being surprised at the overall weakness (quantity and quality) of the Vegas SW scene. It's not horrible and I certainly still monger there on visits when I have time on my own. But I stand by my comment that compared to other large cities I visit, over the last couple of years the LV SW scene is below average to average at best.

Wastrel
03-20-06, 23:21
Well, I really wasn't thinking just of you individually Mike80, but oftentimes I really do think that complaining about terribly poor SW prospects in Las Vegas must be in comparison to some very unrealistic expectations of "Sin City" that someone brings with them or perhaps compared to the memory of the outdoor playground of years ago. I think it's in our nature to complain that there isn't enough of what we seek, and I've done some of it myself, but it is not at all understandable to me to assert that it has fewer of them than similar sized cities (care for a wild week of debauchery in Sacramento anyone?) and the prospects on any given day are quite a bit better than Portland or Indianapolis or Columbus or Milwaukie or Salt Lake or Orlando. I wouldn't know about Atlantic City, but from my experience I'm pretty damn confident that guys in Portland would consider a slow day on the streets of Vegas a lot better than the best day they've ever seen there. I find it arguable whether it's actually better or worse (depends on what you're looking for) than Los Angeles, with it's 16 million souls, and it's noticeably more consistent than trying to hunt for them among the 3.5 million people in Phoenix.

But it sounds like we can agree that most guys wouldn't find it worthwhile to fly all the way across the country just for the local SW scene, since that game in Vegas is probably not going to be all that different than driving around the scruffy areas of some cities in their own time zone. It's a warning I've probably given here at least a dozen times in the past few years to tone down the expectations of prospective visitors.

In any case, this loitering ordinance won't have much to do with it one way or another.

Since we're chatting about news from the police and judicial blotter, here's a few recent items that are relevant for this forum, if not particularly pleasant:

I'm not sure why this one got a little media play, since it's not unusual, but this is the second mention of this working girl's death on the Strip that I've seen in print:
A Woman Died Here
Prostitutes' deaths difficult to track
Naked and lifeless, her body was found in the predawn of her 22nd birthday: March 3, 2006. A Friday. Investigators from the Las Vegas Metro Police Department, having been summoned to the 25th floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino at 3:23 in the morning, found little to work with upon their arrival... http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/2006/03/16/aws14.html

I really don't know what to think of this article, becuase while I'm all for making life as miserable as possible for the pimps I just haven't seen this alleged local epidemic of kiddie hookers, but maybe that's becuase I'm not looking for it:
Juvenile Prostitution: Trafficking in children on increase
Las Vegas among 14 U.S. cities where problem is most severe
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Mar-19-Sun-2006/news/6434154.html

And on a lighter note, I look forward to the creative efforts of the advertising industry when they are able to take Ms. Davis' account:
EDITORIAL: Ban on brothel ads constitutionally flawed
Owner, publishers, file federal suit
Bobbi Davis is the proprietor of the Shady Lady Ranch, a legal brothel near Scotty's Junction in Nye County, 130 miles northwest of Las Vegas. Ms. Davis wishes to advertise her business... http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Mar-20-Mon-2006/news/6435395.html

Mike 80
03-20-06, 23:35
The small sw population is kinda a fallacy....downtown and Boulder have tons of sw, just not all are out at all times. But at certain times you can drive LV Bl down to Sams Town and see 30 or more sw.

Also, there are very few higher end sw becuase the casinos are easy pickings.You mean Boulder down to Sams Town, right? 30 SWs? Wow, what was the occasion? What time of day/year? Within the last couple of years? I don't think I've seen more than 7-8 out at the same time on any single cruise down Boulder from Atlantic down past Sams in a VERY long time.

Yeah I know there are plenty of SWs in town, just not out at the same time -- but that applies to any city, right? Besides AC I monger a lot in Philly, Camden and some in Baltimore. Strolls in all those cities are much more dependable 24/7 than LV. Occasional gems aside, general quality in the Fremont corridor in particular is pretty godawful IMO. Hey, again I'm not hatin' on LV -- my favorite city in the entire U.S. Just stating my experience. Wish it was better.

Your point about why there is a relative absence of higher quality SWs is a good one, although I do think it's more common to see AC casino girls hit the streets in the very wee hours and even into daylight than in Vegas -- although I know some do it there too.

Mike 80
03-20-06, 23:50
One thing I think we all can agree on is that the widely scattered location of all the LV strolls makes Vegas SW hunting a much more time- and gas-consuming hobby than in most cities like the ones I just mentioned where the strolls are far more concentrated. Making one pass down the 3 mile or so K Ave stroll in Philly and striking out (a pretty infrequent occurence BTW) is a heckuva lot less frustrating than spending a couple of hours hiking all over LV to reach the same conclusion: no SWs in town out tonite.

Wastrel
03-21-06, 00:05
Now I think I understand the difference in perceptions. Both Philadelphia and Baltimore metro areas are more than five times the size of the Vegas valley. I don't doubt that they may have a more dependable SW scene. Try Portland or Seattle sometime; but bring a book to read, you'll need it.

There is also the tendency of Vegas Metro P.D. to chase them around a lot when a track becomes visible due to concerns over how it will look to the wholesome tourist/convention trade. [Yeah, I know, I know, but they do think that way sometimes.] I don't know if those older eastern cities unofficially tolerate a certain amount of the trade on some long established tracks, as LA used to for a long time in some areas where no conventional tourist would think of going, where there is almost no legitimate retail business enterprise, and three quarters of the population is afraid to go. Of course it's one of the first places I go whenever I'm there.

Wastrel
03-21-06, 00:23
Our posts are crossing each other, my last was written before seeing your most recent, Mike80.
One thing I think we all can agree on is that the widely scattered location of all the LV strolls makes Vegas SW hunting a much more time- and gas-consuming hobby...Yes, that is something about seeking SWs in Las Vegas, or more properly in the Vegas valley since so much of it isn't even in the city: it isn't concentrated so much into just a few easily defined compact tracks to map out, there are clusters of on-again off-again activity which are widely scattered, and the hours they are out are all over the map too.

I can think of one area which I consider almost 100% automatic to find something [your definition of 'something' may vary] but even some of the most determined and streetwise locals are reluctant to go there, and I find that easy to understand, becuase it's a pretty hard core industrial strength old fashioned ghetto dating back to the early decades of the twentieth century when it was a little railroad town, and this was the 'wrong' side of the tracks. Here is there: http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=600+Jackson+Ave,+Las+Vegas,+NV+89106

Mike 80
03-21-06, 00:41
Now I think I understand the difference in perceptions. Both Philadelphia and Baltimore metro areas are more than five times the size of the Vegas valley. I don't doubt that they may have a more dependable SW scene.I figured you'd probably go there (make that point). And I'll grant that the point about Philly and B'more is valid. I'll also grant that my expectations about LV are influenced at least in part to its proud status as Sin City. But note that I'm also mentioning a couple of NJ cities far smaller than Vegas -- AC and Camden. Camden is among America's most seedy cities and boasts a solid, underpublicized stroll any SW monger can appreciate. I STILL maintain LV has a lot of room for SW improvement. :-) I'm sorry to hear you tell us that the overturning of this ordinance will not improve matters.


...areas where no conventional tourist would think of going, where there is almost no legitimate retail business enterprise, and three quarters of the population is afraid to go. Of course it's one of the first places I go whenever I'm there.LMAO. Yeah, all good mongers have a nose for the seamy underbelly of a city.

Wastrel
03-21-06, 00:58
I'm sorry to hear you tell us that the overturning of this ordinance will not improve matters.Well, not if the matter in question is the legal status of paying for a bj or the availablility of a cheap quickie. The law was seldom used anyway. Notice that the test case defendant was only charged with that after the frustrated officer failed to get her to say anything about sex or money and she tried to get out of his car.

But I'm personally glad to see the decision on principle, since mindreading (loitering with the intent to...? or gesturing...to induce or entice...?) is not exactly a sound legal principle in the grand tradition of our English Common Law heritage, and leaves way too much to the discretion of the individual doing the selective enforcing. Were they planning to engage the services of Madame Fatima's Psychic Reading on east Sahara as an expert witness when taking this turkey to trial? I feel like giving a little credit where it's due here, since it's not often the third rate political hacks comprising the Nevada State Supreme Court actually manage to get something right, and for the right reason no less.

PsyberZombie
03-21-06, 08:27
What makes Vegas different from other cities in terms of P4P girls , is the existence of the Week·End Warrior , described here =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=374037&postcount=341

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=386646&postcount=421


p.s. " Laissez les bons temps roulez " does NOT mean " Laissez faire "

It's the NOLA Mardi Gras Motto = " Let the good times roll "

The Screws
03-21-06, 15:15
What makes Vegas different from other cities in terms of P4P girls , is the existence of the Week·End Warrior , described here =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=374037&postcount=341

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=386646&postcount=421


p.s. " Laissez les bons temps roulez " does NOT mean " Laissez faire "

It's the NOLA Mardi Gras Motto = " Let the good times roll "

So the real question is, What cost you more...the W-W or Mrs Zombie playing slots? That might have been the first time you were the one rushing and watching the clock...Great reports..and thanks for the blast from the past.

keep safe.....

Speck
03-21-06, 23:52
You mean Boulder down to Sams Town, right? 30 SWs? Wow, what was the occasion? What time of day/year? Within the last couple of years? I don't think I've seen more than 7-8 out at the same time on any single cruise down Boulder from Atlantic down past Sams in a VERY long time.


Fremont/Boulder is what I meant. And last several trips to Vegas, there have been TONS of sw out....far more during the day. My typical cruise would start at 1pm and go down Ogden, Stewart, Carson, and then Fremont. Down past Castaways and then on to about 2 miles past Sams Town. It's a ***** of a drive....takes about 25 minutes. The highest concentration seems to be from El Cortez down to Bruce on all streets and then on Boulder near Castaways(Well, where it used to be anyways), then maybe a few scattered down to the freeway, then a few more around Dannys, and then several scattered down to a little past Sams. At night after midnight I might only see 5-6 on any one trip.

Speck
03-27-06, 23:50
Ever reliable...the late night walk past Harrahs, IP, Flamingo, and BC.

Heading back from a very successful night gambling after 6am. As I approached Flamingo, I saw a really hot blonde. She came up to me, asked if I would like some company. I said yes. She asked how she could know I was not police. I grabbed her ass. Unfortunately she would not agree to my price of $$ for half and half. She would not budge off $$$. So I left and went to sleep.

In my experience, this has been the easiest way to get attractive "providers" on the strip for a reasonable price.....usually after 3am is best.

Sponge Worthy
03-28-06, 20:31
Speck,

That's right, stick to your price! It's nice if we can catch what we want, but damn if any of them are worth outrageous prices. I was in town December when things were slow. One girl wanted $$$ and I told her $$. She kept trying to hold to her price.

I said, "Ok, fine. You can go now." She couldn't believe it. I told her I can take care of myself for nothing without you. Can you pay your bills without me? She agreed to the $$ that night, but didn't like it. I figure it was a hit to her ego. To her credit, she still provided good service that night.

It's like buying a car - you have to be willing to walk away if they don't meet your (realistic) budget.

Lucky21
03-29-06, 00:48
I had to spend a few days at the Mandalay for work (what a sacrifice). After a tiring trip in, I called for a massage in room. Petite Sheri showed up in about 20 min and for an agency .6, gave a great massage. Totally relaxed, Sheri started working on the back of my thighs, slipping a little hand high every third stroke. On the flip, she started negotiating -- back and forth, demure and polite. Then she was in charge: CBJ, CG, RCG and mish.

Then for the big surprise, a full body shower together with HJ! Wow.

Afterwards, she gave me a card, but the phone number was different in the last digit. That's a better story.

Sponge Worthy
03-29-06, 21:52
When I don't know some of the terms here, I check the FAQ. However, it doesn't seem to cover everything.

What the hell is CG, RCG, and mish? The FAQ says CG is club girl, but I don't get the impression that's what Lucky21 meant.

Help a brother out.

PsyberZombie
03-30-06, 08:25
When I don't know some of the terms here, I check the FAQ. However, it doesn't seem to cover everything.

What the hell is CG, RCG, and mish? The FAQ says CG is club girl, but I don't get the impression that's what Lucky21 meant.

Help a brother out.


CG = Cow Girl ; girl on top , facing you

RCG = Reverse Cow Girl ; girl on top , back to you

mish = Missionary Position


Look again = these terms are ALL defined on the 'Abbreviations' Board here

Acaryu
03-30-06, 14:01
Ever reliable...the late night walk past Harrahs, IP, Flamingo, and BC.

Heading back from a very successful night gambling after 6am. As I approached Flamingo, I saw a really hot blonde. She came up to me, asked if I would like some company. I said yes. She asked how she could know I was not police. I grabbed her ass. Unfortunately she would not agree to my price of $$ for half and half. She would not budge off $$$. So I left and went to sleep.

In my experience, this has been the easiest way to get attractive "providers" on the strip for a reasonable price.....usually after 3am is best.

At 3am, you'll get second or third hand merchandise.

Wastrel
03-30-06, 15:46
At 3am, you'll get second or third hand merchandise.At 8 am you get second or third hand merchandise, at 11 am you'll get that, and at 9 pm you'd get the same. At three am she may have just had breakfast and started her day an hour ago. Or not. Peak hours on the Strip seem to be roughly midnight or one to two or three am, and have been for years. Yes, he's sure.

Lookinfoit69
03-30-06, 15:54
Like we care! I mean come on. If that was a big issue - what your number is during a particular day - then most likely hobbyist wouldn't hobby.


At 8 am you get second or third hand merchandise, at 11 am you'll get that, and at 9 pm you'd get the same. At three am she may have just had breakfast and started her day an hour ago. Or not. Peak hours on the Strip seem to be roughly midnight or one to two or three am, and have been for years. Yes, he's sure.

Sponge Worthy
03-30-06, 19:59
CG = Cow Girl ; girl on top , facing you

RCG = Reverse Cow Girl ; girl on top , back to you

mish = Missionary Position

Look again = these terms are ALL defined on the 'Abbreviations' Board hereWell, smack my ass and call me Sally. Sorry to be such a bother. I looked at the FAQ, but wasn't aware of a board called "Abbreviations" here.

Just one other question. Why is it people always seem so bitchy when a guy asks a question, especially if he's made an effort to look before asking?

Jokers Wild
03-30-06, 20:39
Contact info for Sheri?


I had to spend a few days at the Mandalay for work (what a sacrifice). After a tiring trip in, I called for a massage in room. Petite Sheri showed up in about 20 min and for an agency .6, gave a great massage. Totally relaxed, Sheri started working on the back of my thighs, slipping a little hand high every third stroke. On the flip, she started negotiating -- back and forth, demure and polite. Then she was in charge: CBJ, CG, RCG and mish.

Then for the big surprise, a full body shower together with HJ! Wow.

Afterwards, she gave me a card, but the phone number was different in the last digit. That's a better story.

Speck
03-30-06, 22:55
CG = Cow Girl ; girl on top , facing you

RCG = Reverse Cow Girl ; girl on top , back to you

mish = Missionary Position


Look again = these terms are ALL defined on the 'Abbreviations' Board here

I think cg on the Vegas board is usually "casino girl" refering to a prostitute that usually works the casinos and casino bars.

PsyberZombie
03-31-06, 15:48
Just one other question. Why is it people always seem so bitchy when a guy asks a question, especially if he's made an effort to look before asking?

I answer your Question — and you call me 'Bitchy' ??!!??

A simple 'Thank You' would have sufficed !!


p.s. = Speck is absolutely right about the LV def of 'CG'

.... but the 'Cow Girl' meaning seemed the most appropriate , given the original Post's context

Sponge Worthy
03-31-06, 16:48
I answer your Question — and you call me 'Bitchy' ??!!??

A simple 'Thank You' would have sufficed !!

p.s. = Speck is absolutely right about the LV def of 'CG'

.... but the 'Cow Girl' meaning seemed the most appropriate , given the original Post's contextThen I apologize, and also thank you. I think the "Look again" part of your message hit me the wrong way. Sorry about that, not looking to start up any bad blood.

Lucky21
03-31-06, 23:46
So after a couple of days of hard work, I needed to relax. I thought of calling Sheri again, so I called. Not the number in the ad, the number on the business card. It must be a tipoff for a repeat customer.

20 minutes, she'll be there in 20. We've all heard that and it's always longer. After about an hour, I get the knock. Wow - Amazon. 6 ft, probably 120 with D-cups... muy better than Sheri. I thought Bingo! Same agency participation.

She tells me to lie down for the massage, so I strip and get on the bed. A few minutes of mechanical, almost clinical massage, my hand seems to find her leg. Surprise she's still fully dressed!!?? She immediately backs away and goes to her purse. Pulls out rubber gloves and comes back to continue the massage. Oh boy, am I screwed.

I settle in and just try to enjoy whatever's coming. Old woody is now old softy... then comes the flip. Wow

She backs away, the dim light from the bathroom illuminating her whole body. Slowly she unbuttons her tight jeans. Unzips. and looks up licking her lips. Off comes the top and then the whole jeans commercial just peeling that denim off by wriggling her whole body. Black G-string comes next. With a coy turn to the side, she slides them off. totally flat stomach and tropically hot legs. I'm ready to blast away!

The hat comes on orally like a good girl and then she proceeds to intensify the wood - cradling, running her nails and swishing that long black hair all over my abdomen. Not... wanting... to... end... yet... She climbs on CG and I'm in the front row of a live porno. Some great doggie and then my favorite mish. Including the massage, more than the full hour.

Looks $: Supermodel
Attitude $: -10 then +10
Name $: to blown away to ask

Lucky21
03-31-06, 23:47
For all us non-vegasians: cg=Cow girl

Jim Mack
04-01-06, 16:13
I stayed at the Flamingo for a few days this past week.

Early mornings, many girls walking through the casinos, hanging at the bars, esp. Bugsy's Bar.

Security walks through at approx 3:15am and asks the girls for ID, even if their just sitting at bars talking or playing video poker. They're obviosly working girls. Some harrassment; I saw one girl get id'd twice within 10 minutes by different Security Guards, but both were in the same group. One seemed to be of higher "rank".

The girl called herself "Bank Roll", and had that tattooed on her arm.

Mantaray
04-01-06, 18:50
How are the girls at the MGM? Good looking? Reasonably priced? Any hidden dangers?

phat gman
04-02-06, 11:34
So after a couple of days of hard work, I needed to relax. I thought of calling Sheri again, so I called. Not the number in the ad, the number on the business card. It must be a tipoff for a repeat customer.

20 minutes, she'll be there in 20. We've all heard that and it's always longer. After about an hour, I get the knock. Wow - Amazon. 6 ft, probably 120 with D-cups... muy better than Sheri. I thought Bingo! Same agency participation.

She tells me to lie down for the massage, so I strip and get on the bed. A few minutes of mechanical, almost clinical massage, my hand seems to find her leg. Surprise she's still fully dressed!!?? She immediately backs away and goes to her purse. Pulls out rubber gloves and comes back to continue the massage. Oh boy, am I screwed.

I settle in and just try to enjoy whatever's coming. Old woody is now old softy... then comes the flip. Wow

She backs away, the dim light from the bathroom illuminating her whole body. Slowly she unbuttons her tight jeans. Unzips. and looks up licking her lips. Off comes the top and then the whole jeans commercial just peeling that denim off by wriggling her whole body. Black G-string comes next. With a coy turn to the side, she slides them off. totally flat stomach and tropically hot legs. I'm ready to blast away!

The hat comes on orally like a good girl and then she proceeds to intensify the wood - cradling, running her nails and swishing that long black hair all over my abdomen. Not... wanting... to... end... yet... She climbs on CG and I'm in the front row of a live porno. Some great doggie and then my favorite mish. Including the massage, more than the full hour.

Looks $: Supermodel
Attitude $: -10 then +10
Name $: to blown away to ask

Read your previous post. Where did you get the number for the incall massage? What was the total damage for this one?

Green_Thumb
04-07-06, 00:41
So what the F**K is so special about this Club Drais below the Barbary Coast? I read about how legendary this place is in Maxim magazine once and have even heard Howard Stern & Jimmy Kimmel joke about it with a wink-wink, like some secret code that all hip guys knows what goes on there.

I was there over the weekend, late Fri Night-Sat A.M., and all it seemed like to me was some dimly lit dance club. Yes there were some hotties there, but it was more like a college bar where you had to be part of the group to fit in and mingle. Nothing I can't get at the clubs back home. I didn't see too many girls out trying to make new friends. Not to mention the Godamn cover charge and expensive drinks - what freaking waste!!!

What am I missing or doing wrong here? Did I come here with unreal expectations? I thought I read an article once that said this is the place where young hot providers, working girls and after shift strippers frequent to have some regular fun and of course do some business after they get a little tipsy. In fact, you have a decent chance of hooking up with them for free or for a very minimal charge versus what they charge when they are working. Any info or thoughts?

Thanks,

GT

splashlv
04-07-06, 18:07
Club Drais secret is the E factor thats what the wink-wink was for on howard stern. I used to hangout there alot stick around till 7or 8am and sometimes you can take those hotties back to your place or where they are staying.

Speck
04-07-06, 19:18
What am I missing or doing wrong here? Did I come here with unreal expectations?


Yes.



I thought I read an article once that said this is the place where young hot providers,


No.



working girls


No.



and after shift strippers frequent to have some regular fun and of course do some business after they get a little tipsy.


Yes. Here is what you are missing. Most of the ho's that work the strip are not gonna party where they work. Also, many work for pimps, and the pimps are not letting them go out like that. So forget the working girl thing.

The strippers are a different story. They do go out to these clubs...at least the ones without kids do. But more on weekdays. Weekends is mostly tourists. Few locals want to deal with that. Weekends are busy in strip clubs, the girls are there all night and constantly busy. They are tired. But often, they are off during the week, or only work 4 hours or so. So then they go out. But if you think it is easier to pick up on a stripper than a normal girl, you would be mistaken.



In fact, you have a decent chance of hooking up with them for free or for a very minimal charge versus what they charge when they are working.

No. See above.

Guady1
04-13-06, 06:29
I made my way out tonight on the strip.
I did the MP thing before but I want FS-guaranteed, so I skipped that.
I drove up and down the strip, no luck, so I decided to try the Luxor since the last time I went there, I got lucky.
I decided to park at the Bay and while making my way over to the pyrimad, I saw a fine spanish woman with her partner. I asked her if she knew how to get to the Luxor from where we were.She told me and then
She offered $500 for her and $600 for both of them. I told her I couldn't imagine what she could do that would be worth that much and headed on.
The luxor was crawling with girls, I had to stop and decide who to make my kill with.
I snagged a 20 year old S.A.(South American) "girl". She was fairly new to the business like I like it.
I took her to my place,I know some of you can't do that. If you read my earlier posts, I made mistakes doing it in my vehicle because I usually went to MP's before I moved here. I wanted to get the most out of this.
Man, her body was perfect, makes a big difference in how it feels, body to body. I went down on her, couldn't help it, she was so fine and innocent, let me do what I wanted, real GFE.
I took her back to the strip and she insisted on giving me her number. I usually don't do repeats but she is good enough for one more time. I asked if she had a friend and she said no, I was looking for a threesome.
If you are in the Bay, ask the woman how to get to the pyrimad, and the opposite if you are in the pyrimad going to the bay, works everytime without appearing like you are looking for action, if she is game, she will continue to talk to you.
Its good to go on a tues/wed. if you can contain yourself, total damage:
$200 and a GFE I hardly get.

Magnod
04-16-06, 06:40
I gather from reading the reports that most girls can be found after the 12-1am time period. Is that right? Cause I was just in Vegas and went walking around the Bally's, Ceasers, and Belagio area since I had read someone mentioning that they may have the best looking girls, but didn't see any. I didn't have my computer so I couldn't check the site for times or details. I did see one in Aladdin, at least I think she was one Asian with blond hair, nice enhanced looking rack, skinny, but she was walking so fast didn't get to talk to her. Ended up at the foot massage place.

Just a quick question, do you have to be staying at those hotels for this to work? We usually stay DT (Nugget) and I've talked to several at the bar in the Nugget, but they weren't exactly the cream of the crop in the looks department.

Speck
04-17-06, 01:58
I gather from reading the reports that most girls can be found after the 12-1am time period. Is that right? Cause I was just in Vegas and went walking around the Bally's, Ceasers, and Belagio area since I had read someone mentioning that they may have the best looking girls, but didn't see any. I didn't have my computer so I couldn't check the site for times or details. I did see one in Aladdin, at least I think she was one Asian with blond hair, nice enhanced looking rack, skinny, but she was walking so fast didn't get to talk to her. Ended up at the foot massage place.

Just a quick question, do you have to be staying at those hotels for this to work? We usually stay DT (Nugget) and I've talked to several at the bar in the Nugget, but they weren't exactly the cream of the crop in the looks department.

The girls start coming out earlier than midnight at Bellagio. Most will be at the video poker bars looking for middle aged, balding, fat white guys that look like they might be willing to drop $600+.

No they will not usually go back to the Nugget with you. Unless you are willing to pay a big premium. Thats a $30 taxi ride from the strip.

Member #1716
04-17-06, 17:24
I gather from reading the reports that most girls can be found after the 12-1am time period. Is that right? Cause I was just in Vegas and went walking around the Bally's, Ceasers, and Belagio area since I had read someone mentioning that they may have the best looking girls, but didn't see any. I didn't have my computer so I couldn't check the site for times or details. I did see one in Aladdin, at least I think she was one Asian with blond hair, nice enhanced looking rack, skinny, but she was walking so fast didn't get to talk to her. Ended up at the foot massage place.

Just a quick question, do you have to be staying at those hotels for this to work? We usually stay DT (Nugget) and I've talked to several at the bar in the Nugget, but they weren't exactly the cream of the crop in the looks department.

When I have been in Vegas, I have seen and had conversations with girls starting mid afternoon but that is a rarity and where escorts working for a service killing time in between call, even saw one get walked out of Paris in the early afternoon, must have mouthed off or something.

More come out as the night wears on, last fall when I was out there, action was plentiful after 8 on Saturday Night out in front of Ballys, was approched several time sitting there people watching by myself. I guess I have that look of being around 40 and looking for action. Anyways action can last until 7 or 8 am as I have been approached going to breakfast.

Each day seems to be different thou and can be hit or miss, weekends are usually better as they come from out of town to work for the weekend.

My 2 cents anyhow.

Muggs
04-17-06, 21:01
When I have been in Vegas, I have seen and had conversations with girls starting mid afternoon but that is a rarity and where escorts working for a service killing time in between call, even saw one get walked out of Paris in the early afternoon, must have mouthed off or something.

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That is true. I see them everyday walking in the casinos. Just last Friday, bumped into on who had some cloth white pants, flip flops, tank top and no panties. If I wasn't at work, I would have had to get that one. They are out there 24/7

Speck
04-17-06, 23:13
That is true. I see them everyday walking in the casinos. Just last Friday, bumped into on who had some cloth white pants, flip flops, tank top and no panties. If I wasn't at work, I would have had to get that one. They are out there 24/7


Its rather misleading to tell this to guys on this board. While technically true that there are girls around 24/7, a normal out of towner staying at any given hotel has a better chance of hitting a jackpot on slots than hooking up with casino girl during the middle of the day.

Magnod
04-18-06, 02:55
I think that I was looking around on a Sat ~1100pm. That night I was with my other and her mother so I was trying to scope the scene since they left on Monday while I stayed behind for business.

Didn't really see anything at that time. I did a see a pretty pissed off drunk guy knocking over the cement rubbish bins on the bridges by Bally's stuff.

Went back to the same area and walked the area on Tuesday night, but like I said didn't see much. Maybe because I didn't fit the description of what they're looking for.

1. Not middle aged
2. Not balding
3. Not white

The girls at the Nugget bar talked to me, but they looked a little to skanky for me. So I ended up hitting Spearmint Rhino and the foot place.

Muggs
04-18-06, 09:55
Its rather misleading to tell this to guys on this board. While technically true that there are girls around 24/7, a normal out of towner staying at any given hotel has a better chance of hitting a jackpot on slots than hooking up with casino girl during the middle of the day.

You are right. The chances are small...but possible. I see them everyday working...but not in an abundance compared to the night.

Now...horny tourists...all day. A older lady in her 40's asked me yesterday, would I like to go to her room.. To bad I was at work..LOL

Kitie Carson
04-18-06, 16:50
Hello Vegas,

Once again travelling to Vegas,but this time by MYSELF no GF. I went in Jan for 1st time stayed at MGM Grand. I was w/GF ,BUT read posts and walked around Center Strip and saw several SW's generally PM to early AM.
I am staying at Harrahs This time ,after recon last trip. This is purely monger trip for me . Is Harrahs good place for this?, I did walk around major hotels ,but as i said w/GF. I am Very excited. Any SR member ,I would love to meet up with and glady buy you a few drinks just to sit and talk about area. Hope to hear from you

Member #1716
04-18-06, 17:16
You are right. The chances are small...but possible. I see them everyday working...but not in an abundance compared to the night.

Now...horny tourists...all day. A older lady in her 40's asked me yesterday, would I like to go to her room.. To bad I was at work..LOL

Sorry didn't mean to start anything, just was showing that sometimes if you look hard during the day it can be had and the girls around during the day if you find one usually are not your girls you will find at night.

Personally there are several well known escorts that I would see before a CG, they may not bargin with you but you will have a much better time that with most CG that want to get you off and leave quickly. I like the chase and then call a regualar escort for fun unless I find what I think of as a gem at my price becuase I know it's probably not GFE and for the most part a quicky.

Speck
04-18-06, 22:11
Hello Vegas,

Once again travelling to Vegas,but this time by MYSELF no GF. I went in Jan for 1st time stayed at MGM Grand. I was w/GF ,BUT read posts and walked around Center Strip and saw several SW's generally PM to early AM.
I am staying at Harrahs This time ,after recon last trip. This is purely monger trip for me . Is Harrahs good place for this?, I did walk around major hotels ,but as i said w/GF. I am Very excited. Any SR member ,I would love to meet up with and glady buy you a few drinks just to sit and talk about area. Hope to hear from you

Harrahs is excellent! There are several girls that work in Harrahs throughout the night. Just make eye contact with any single girls you see. Smile and they will come right up to you. Most of this is after 1 or 2am or so. Flamingo is ho central. There are always girls out in front and nearby. Also checkout the entire walk from Harrahs down to Ballys, then Aladdin. Cross the street from Aladdin to Bellagios escalators/people movers. I have even seen ho's out there, trying to get to the street. Ho's all over the place in Bellagio. Then head back across the street. Any ho will walk with you over to Harrahs. Expect quotes at $$$$$, counter at $$ or $$$, whatever you are comfortable with. If they say no, walk away. BTW, make sure you get a grab of ass or titty(to prove you are not a cop :)). Most of the time, if you offer $$, they will run back to you and say "ok". Just make sure it is for 1/2 and 1/2 or some might try to scam you and say that is their price for BJ only.

Speck
04-18-06, 22:14
Went back to the same area and walked the area on Tuesday night, but like I said didn't see much. Maybe because I didn't fit the description of what they're looking for.

1. Not middle aged
2. Not balding
3. Not white



Yah dude, the girls at Bellagio bars are all over the dudes that look like they are desperate enough to drop major cash.

BTW, it really doesn't need to be said....but maybe there are some that do not know....if you are black, its gonna be real hard to pick up a cg in Vegas unless you're like a celebrity or something. Really, you have a better chance of sacking a normal chick at a club.

Magnod
04-19-06, 02:24
Thanks Speck.

I'm heading back out there in July for the WSOP. I'll try and check out the places at a later time and see what's up.

This past trip I even tried driving the roads that I could remember seeing mentioned on this board (didn't have my computer to double check) but didn't see anything. Of course this was probably due to the steady rain that was going on. When I finally had some free time there happened to be thunderstorms. Better luck next time.

Cienega32
04-19-06, 18:31
This past trip I even tried driving the roads that I could remember seeing mentioned on this board (didn't have my computer to double check) but didn't see anything.

One thing that helps me in a "strange" town is to map the cruise info provided and print it out relative to my "central location" and a more zoomed in perspective.

Bailed me more than once.

Norman Stormin
04-20-06, 10:20
Hello Vegas,

Any SR member ,I would love to meet up with and glady buy you a few drinks just to sit and talk about area. Hope to hear from you

See Ya at the Spike or the Stern ! Tecate's only a dollar !

Kitie Carson
04-20-06, 12:12
Speck,

Thanks for the intel on my upcoming Vacation.

Normin , PM or let me know when and where and I will gladly meet up.

see ya soon Vegas

anomoly98
04-21-06, 17:40
Will be staying at Mandalay Bay and looking for tips. Can't do late night. Must be evening so not sure how much luck I will have with CG and others. Is Mandalay a good place to score? Any specific place at Mandalay?

Thanks all.

Speck
04-21-06, 19:49
Will be staying at Mandalay Bay and looking for tips. Can't do late night. Must be evening so not sure how much luck I will have with CG and others. Is Mandalay a good place to score? Any specific place at Mandalay?

Thanks all.

If you have money($$$ - call an escort that you look up via TER, $$$$$ and there will be girls in the bar, or maybe head over to the Bellagio bars.), anything is possible. If you don't have money, want a discount, or want to be cheap....fuggetaboutit

Guady1
04-22-06, 14:35
The Bay is a good place to start your hunt but I found the CG's in there start high because they know that place is class.
I liked the Luxor better because it was smaller and easier to pick out what I wanted. Also the Cg's always came at me for only $$ not $$$$$ like the bay girls.
I like CG's because they are on a higher level (that's why you pay more) than the street workers but logistics usually slowed me down.
MP's are a hit or miss, I have gotten the best time of my life at one and I had one who just about ran out after the "massage". I learned later their business was raided and they were alittle nervious from then.
I like ones who are fairly new to the business. They haven't learned how to cut corners yet. You can tell, like the last one I had, she talked about her private life and problems, they haven't distinguished between love and sex.

10safe0sory
04-28-06, 05:34
I'm normally in Vegas for the normal monger activities, but occasionally go to Phoenix for poker and the street action and CL, but the rules for CL pretty much apply there or anywhere I have been in the southwest. As we all know, there are a lot of agencies here and a lot of scams. But there ARE some decent values to be had, but it takes patience and some scoping out.

After the last 28 yrs of chasing pussy after my divorce in 1978, I really don't care if you like skinny butt, fat, big butt, or as shapely as they come, black or white, big tits or small, some general (at least for me) rules apply. If its a SW, if they don't at least smile a little, then I don't stop at all. If they are slovenly or dirty, nope.. Why bother?? A BJ with someone who has sores festering or smells like a locker room or toilet, is not conducive to my enjoyment. If they can't at least smile a little, why bother?

I take my time and if I miss 20 in a row but get a bad sense of either them or LE in the area or my gut feeling, I pass. So what if I miss a few as long as Betty and her five skinny friends are around?? I'm still OK and still free and get to go another day. It ain't the first or last time, that's for sure. There will always be more even if a particular night is frustrating at times.

As far as CL is concerned, if the gal on the other end of the phone isn't at least halfway friendly, what makes you think she will be when you get there? A hard and fast rule I will not violate whether incall or outcall, is if it isn't the gal in the pic, then its over right there. End of story !!! Bait and switch is common and the upsell is on for sure (or usually is). Again, why bother? At least this way all I have is wasted is a bit of time.

At 58, I don't get laid as often perhaps as many of you young studs, but I usually don't get ripped off either. Yes, I have certainly had my share as we all have, especially earlier in my career, but at least they are getting further and further between times, and thankfully none in the last 2½ yrs, either SW or CL. ANYONE can be fooled eventually at some point, but no pussy is so important that I need to bother if the above rules are broken. Of course, that's just my view but it works for me. Naturally theres a lot more stuff but this is for starters. Be careful out there.

10safe

np2112
04-28-06, 22:45
I'm normally in Vegas for the normal monger activities, but occasionally go to Phoenix for poker and the street action and CL, but the rules for CL pretty much apply there or anywhere I have been in the southwest. As we all know, there are a lot of agencies here and a lot of scams. But there ARE some decent values to be had, but it takes patience and some scoping out.

After the last 28 yrs of chasing pussy after my divorce in 1978, I really don't care if you like skinny butt, fat, big butt, or as shapely as they come, black or white, big tits or small, some general (at least for me) rules apply. If its a SW, if they don't at least smile a little, then I don't stop at all. If they are slovenly or dirty, nope.. Why bother?? A BJ with someone who has sores festering or smells like a locker room or toilet, is not conducive to my enjoyment. If they can't at least smile a little, why bother?

I take my time and if I miss 20 in a row but get a bad sense of either them or LE in the area or my gut feeling, I pass. So what if I miss a few as long as Betty and her five skinny friends are around?? I'm still OK and still free and get to go another day. It ain't the first or last time, that's for sure. There will always be more even if a particular night is frustrating at times.

As far as CL is concerned, if the gal on the other end of the phone isn't at least halfway friendly, what makes you think she will be when you get there? A hard and fast rule I will not violate whether incall or outcall, is if it isn't the gal in the pic, then its over right there. End of story !!! Bait and switch is common and the upsell is on for sure (or usually is). Again, why bother? At least this way all I have is wasted is a bit of time.

At 58, I don't get laid as often perhaps as many of you young studs, but I usually don't get ripped off either. Yes, I have certainly had my share as we all have, especially earlier in my career, but at least they are getting further and further between times, and thankfully none in the last 2½ yrs, either SW or CL. ANYONE can be fooled eventually at some point, but no pussy is so important that I need to bother if the above rules are broken. Of course, that's just my view but it works for me. Naturally theres a lot more stuff but this is for starters. Be careful out there.

10safe


Just want to give an AMEN BROTHER!! I'm 38, and I've been in this dubious game for about 12 years now, and I follow that advice. Some of the things you typed I've talked about nearly to the word! Had my share of newbie experiences, too.

Magnod
04-29-06, 03:06
I'm normally in Vegas for the normal monger activities, but occasionally go to Phoenix for poker and the street action and CL, but the rules for CL pretty much apply there or anywhere I have been in the southwest. As we all know, there are a lot of agencies here and a lot of scams. But there ARE some decent values to be had, but it takes patience and some scoping out.

After the last 28 yrs of chasing pussy after my divorce in 1978, I really don't care if you like skinny butt, fat, big butt, or as shapely as they come, black or white, big tits or small, some general (at least for me) rules apply. If its a SW, if they don't at least smile a little, then I don't stop at all. If they are slovenly or dirty, nope.. Why bother?? A BJ with someone who has sores festering or smells like a locker room or toilet, is not conducive to my enjoyment. If they can't at least smile a little, why bother?

I take my time and if I miss 20 in a row but get a bad sense of either them or LE in the area or my gut feeling, I pass. So what if I miss a few as long as Betty and her five skinny friends are around?? I'm still OK and still free and get to go another day. It ain't the first or last time, that's for sure. There will always be more even if a particular night is frustrating at times.

As far as CL is concerned, if the gal on the other end of the phone isn't at least halfway friendly, what makes you think she will be when you get there? A hard and fast rule I will not violate whether incall or outcall, is if it isn't the gal in the pic, then its over right there. End of story !!! Bait and switch is common and the upsell is on for sure (or usually is). Again, why bother? At least this way all I have is wasted is a bit of time.

At 58, I don't get laid as often perhaps as many of you young studs, but I usually don't get ripped off either. Yes, I have certainly had my share as we all have, especially earlier in my career, but at least they are getting further and further between times, and thankfully none in the last 2½ yrs, either SW or CL. ANYONE can be fooled eventually at some point, but no pussy is so important that I need to bother if the above rules are broken. Of course, that's just my view but it works for me. Naturally theres a lot more stuff but this is for starters. Be careful out there.

10safeGreat advice. As a noob to the chase I'm always happy to have the opportunity to learn from others. Thanks.

Lucky21
04-29-06, 16:40
I went back to Vegas and set up an outcall. Asked for Sheri again, but she was busy, so I took Judy. Great looker with a natural feeling rack. The sell was pretty tough, but had a great time: cbj, cg and mish to pop. No rcg this time around. Really long hair and she let it drift all over my body. Whew!

Couple of days later, I hit three different AMPs out on Spring Mtn and every one turned out to be legit. Didn't hit the foot place, but I've never gotten more than a great massage out there.

Set up a late afternoon outcall with Sheri and she was available. No rush and game for all I was interested in. Hugging, seductively stripping each other, great back massage straight to cg, mish and popped doggie. I finally had my first GFE. $4 all in, including agency. Then we showered together and went again. Ended with a facial massage that was incredible.

Amigo
05-02-06, 00:13
I have a couple of reports from a recent visit.

I was staying at the Imperial Palace during the week and there were many CG's hanging around the slots near the elevators. It was about 11:00 PM. I talked to one nice looking younger CG, she said we could go to my room and talk. I was caught off guard and a little nervous because I wasn't expecting to see any at the IP. I had been walking around the Flamingo and the over passes and didn't see anything. I left her and went to my room to regroup. I went back down a half our later and saw a couple of CG's they were older about 30/35, they said the same thing about going up to my room and talking. I took one of them up and settled on a CBJ for $150, it took me forever because she wasn't very good and I was drunk, not all that good an experience.

I also tried a foot massage place, $35 at the door and $20 tip for a HJ from an older Korean lady. Not recommended. A guy was working the door, so I didn't know who I would be getting until she came in. I would have enjoyed it if the girl would have been hotter.

Bobb Wheele
05-02-06, 01:08
Some friends booked us at the Place Station has anyone ever seen any action their? Do I need to go to the strip? My friend is going budget on this trip.

Cienega32
05-02-06, 02:50
I also tried a foot massage place, $35 at the door and $20 tip for a HJ from an older Korean lady. Not recommended. A guy was working the door, so I didn't know who I would be getting until she came in. I would have enjoyed it if the girl would have been hotter.

The guy usually works the door/counter and can be very accomodating. If a girl you want isn't there, he'll gladly call her in. I don't know how he is with an abstract request - "tall, thin, one eyed..." or whatever, but with whoever he has, he'll get her.

Wastrel
05-02-06, 12:26
Do I need to go to the strip?Yes.

[Superfluous typing of useless characters becuase forum software thinks this reply is too short to post.]

Bobb Wheele
05-02-06, 14:34
I remember reading about a swing club that was like the red rooster. It had booths somewhere that had blory holes and other things like that. Does anyone know where and the name of such a place. According to the web page a lot of women went there just to hang out.

PsyberZombie
05-02-06, 16:57
There's nothing wrong with the Station Properties per se — although there are cheaper places
to stay down·town if yer trying to save your bucks for girls & gambling

They even offer occasional worth·while entertainment =
Fer ex , LYNYRD SKYNYRD ('http://*******.com/nzzpm') is playing at Sunset Station on May 21st

By far the nicest Station Property is GREEN VALLEY RANCH = worth a day trip , but way too far
from the Strip's Week·End Warrior Action to stay there

My Game is Dice , and they have five dollar tables there ; and Mrs Zombie likes to hit P·S at least once every trip , because she thinks their Slots are slightly 'Looser'

But you will be hard pressed find any Loose Sluts there , or in any of the 'Locals' Casinos , like Sam's Town

You *might* find a Slot Babe ('http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=405411&postcount=602') in a truly Low Class Local Spot like TERRIBLE'S Casinos [ the name speaks for it·self ] , but don't count of it


p.s. = For Wastrel's views on 'Slot Babes' , check out =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=405498&postcount=604


Happy Hunting , Bobb !!

Wastrel
05-02-06, 18:10
There's nothing wrong with the Station Properties per se...I agree. I've found their rooms to be nothing special but perfectly OK, and many of their cocktail waitresses fill out the little uniforms quite nicely. I've used some of their rooms on a few occasions when I was able to book them for almost nothing, and I'd do it again if I caught a very good price, but I'd not be happy with the deal if I didn't have a car with me, since making their properties handy to serve the locals market tends to make them a little out of the way for some other purposes. Such as screwing around.

And a couple years ago I actually did screw a little red-haired spinner who worked at Palace Station, but it's not exactly what that sounds like. I found her curbside on Twain, which was near her apartment, but nowhere near that casino, and she just worked at Palace Station as a part-time housekeeper. So never say never anywhere in Las Vegas, and I guess you could try hitting on all of several hundred maids who work there to find that one who does do a fine job as an informal relaxation consultant for thirty when rent is due, or maybe just stick to the few dozen red haired ones, but I don't recomend it since the other 299 of them might get offended at the offer and do something unpleasant to your room while you're out.

BlueScott
05-03-06, 03:45
I went out prowling as a newbie to the Vegas scene. For those in my position the Bellagio had some of the most shapley women I saw. The action seemed to be centered at the circular bar at the rear of the casino near the high roller area. I overheard one of them settling for 1.5 which sounded low based on what I read but then his buddy walked up fresh from the ATM with cash in hand. I suspect it was a per head discount rate since there were three guys in the "Party". They started to get real friendly at the bar so I went off in search of other prospects.

BlueScott
05-03-06, 03:50
The shadow bar seemed to be the place in Ceasars. about 11pm a group of three, working together. When two found company the third left as well. Nice place to linger. Shadow bar gets it's name because nude (seemingly) women dance behind the bar behind screens casting their shadows on the screens for a show.

Domino Harvey
05-03-06, 04:20
By far the nicest Station Property is GREEN VALLEY RANCH...I think the RED ROCK beat it. Went there the other night, and its by far the best of the Station Properties now. Pretty damn nice. I didnt see any pros at the bar or the slots though - just as I expected.

IndyDave
05-04-06, 19:13
Green Door in the Commercial Center...and one just north of the Green Door...can't remember the name of it....probably want to be there on a weekend, though....seems to be either lots of activity or the boringest place in LV.


I remember reading about a swing club that was like the red rooster. It had booths somewhere that had blory holes and other things like that. Does anyone know where and the name of such a place. According to the web page a lot of women went there just to hang out.

Speck
05-04-06, 21:43
I went out prowling as a newbie to the Vegas scene. For those in my position the Bellagio had some of the most shapley women I saw. The action seemed to be centered at the circular bar at the rear of the casino near the high roller area. I overheard one of them settling for 1.5 which sounded low based on what I read but then his buddy walked up fresh from the ATM with cash in hand. I suspect it was a per head discount rate since there were three guys in the "Party". They started to get real friendly at the bar so I went off in search of other prospects.

I've had really hot girls who would not do 1/2 and 1/2 for $200 offer to give a CBJ for $150 or $200. I passed.

Guady1
05-05-06, 04:20
Down the ways from the Greendoor in the CC is Red Rooster.
I went there several times. One was a good experience with a "hostess".
The entry fee wasn't too bad, if you are with a woman, you get in free.
There is no privacy,I did my deed when there was a few people. Somebody knocked the plate that was used to cover the hole at the door,off.
My hostess put it back on and I quickly finished.
The RR and GD are a hit or miss. I have hung out in the parking lot on a weekend to see who goes in and sometimes it was slow.

This weekend is going to be busy with the fight, I will check out these places but I know that the action doesn't start until late in the morning for some reason.

Cienega32
05-05-06, 05:03
Down the ways from the Greendoor in the CC is Red Rooster.

Red Rooster II or III or something but no affiliation with THE Red Rooster - the swingers house off Trop.

Guady1
05-08-06, 04:24
I don't what number The Red Rooster I saw in the Commercial Center is but it is off Sahara.
I went there saturday night after work-got there 12:30am. The parking lot was packed!. I got a good spot near the rooster but I couldn't see the people going into the Greendoor because of all the cars around.
I didn't stay long because I was tired and I knew the best crowds were coming around 5 or 6 after the clubs closed and I couldn't stay up until then.

While I was there, I saw 4 girls and 3 guys go into a club next to the Rooster called "Fantasy". I never went inside of that place. I didn't stay long enough to see how long they stayed. I did see a woman go in and come back out and leave, so I felt it must not have been happening.

There were 3 guys standing outside of the Rooster and nothing else while I was there(maybe 20 minutes).

10safe0sory
05-09-06, 01:25
Some more random thoughts for what it's worth during my 58 years on earth. I used to get drunk (figuratively) with the thought of gettin laid. In fact it used to be on my mind always, and now its somethin like 70% of the time. Some things never change with us testosone laden fellows. The other 30%, well , I used to know, but I digress. What I do remember though is very instantly sobering however, and that is staying FREE. Now I won't give make and model, but I have seen some of you youngsters (and yes some of you old guys if truth be told) pull some pretty wild stuff and just draw all that unwanted attention on your ass.

It ain't a pretty sight and LE just must eat it up. The terrible things it does to your record, your pocketbook, your time, and possible future employment CAN be very ungood. Jumping over medians (very ungazelle like), big time U turns in the middle of a busy street, crossing 3 lanes of traffic in a single bound, speeding to the next turnaround at 80 mph, screeching the tires when braking and STILL going through the red light etc.. All for a piece of ass........... Guys, maybe its my age, maybe its 28 yrs of doin this, but gettin caught and drawing this kind of attention (big time) is never worth it. The old wily willy wilts whenever the bubble gum machine goes off and they come to take you away. haha haha.. (Its part of an old song)

If your not so conspciuous however, two newsworthy things might happen. The bad news is you might not get the next one or anyone that night (oh no, not again), but yes, the good news is you get to do it again and again and again on other days. Hell, we ALL like (OK, have to) to get laid, and I suppose take some inner perverse pleasure gettin there just ahead of the car you know will make the pickup if you don't, but thinkin with the big head in that fraction of a second before you strike is way cool too. Make sure its gold, and not fools gold. Make sure she don't look or smell like death warmed over, it ain't worth the trubs. Look around one last time.

After a time, us old vets just shake our head in amazement and think back and hope that we weren't like that. That's way to far back for me, those brain cells died a long time ago. But I digress again. Learn to say the word NO, if you make a p/u and it just don't seem right. Yep, follow the old gut when there is nothin else to go on. I've had a few screamin all sorts of nasty, mean, rotten and dastardly things (not recently thank God), but for some reason it just didn't seem right at the moment regardless of what I thought at first. So I breakdown and if there is no other way of gettin em out, I throw em 5 or 10. Its worth it to me, not to some perhaps, but to me it is. Read my post a few days ago. If they don't smile, if they ain't the one in the picture (what makes you think that they won't lie to you again since they lied to you already once by fakin their pic, or if they say that the amount agreed on is only to take off their clothes?? make sure BEFORE you hand over your hare earned moola), or they ain't at least somewhat friendly right off the start, then I don't bother any further and NO positively becomes the operative word. When you have decided to go ahead with the deal, be explicit with what you want, and unless she's a newbie, you ain't gonna say much that she hasn't heard at one time or another. I'm sure neither one of you took mind reading in school, and if you did, most likely you flunked same as the rest of us.

It don't matter if its SW or CL, or any other, you can still make wise choices and still make it friendly and respectful. Let em know that bait and switch in any form is adios, find someone else to BS for the rent money, I don't need it or tolerate it. Not hardcore, just fact. Nowadays, the price of gas makes the hobby expensive, doin somethin stupid is even more expensive. Just some more idle ramblins from an old fart. To be continued......... stay free.

10safe

Thunderbolt47
05-09-06, 02:29
I have heard the joker that runs Fantasy tries to do every girl that walks in the place. He is also a liar. One time I asked him point blank if there were any women in the joint before I paid. His reply was "several". In fact there was only one butt ugly ancient ***** in there. Often the other clubs like this have a foxy girl paid to sit at the bar and "proove" to the guys entering that there is some action. That is not to say some action cant be had in some of these places but it is VERY few and far between. (on the order of one score per 40 visits)

By the way guys-- check your messages sometime.

T-bolt

np2112
05-09-06, 18:08
Some more random thoughts for what it's worth during my 58 years on earth. I used to get drunk (figuratively) with the thought of gettin laid. In fact it used to be on my mind always, and now its somethin like 70% of the time. Some things never change with us testosone laden fellows. The other 30%, well , I used to know, but I digress. What I do remember though is very instantly sobering however, and that is staying FREE. Now I won't give make and model, but I have seen some of you youngsters (and yes some of you old guys if truth be told) pull some pretty wild stuff and just draw all that unwanted attention on your ass.

It ain't a pretty sight and LE just must eat it up. The terrible things it does to your record, your pocketbook, your time, and possible future employment CAN be very ungood. Jumping over medians (very ungazelle like), big time U turns in the middle of a busy street, crossing 3 lanes of traffic in a single bound, speeding to the next turnaround at 80 mph, screeching the tires when braking and STILL going through the red light etc.. All for a piece of ass........... Guys, maybe its my age, maybe its 28 yrs of doin this, but gettin caught and drawing this kind of attention (big time) is never worth it. The old wily willy wilts whenever the bubble gum machine goes off and they come to take you away. haha haha.. (Its part of an old song)

If your not so conspciuous however, two newsworthy things might happen. The bad news is you might not get the next one or anyone that night (oh no, not again), but yes, the good news is you get to do it again and again and again on other days. Hell, we ALL like (OK, have to) to get laid, and I suppose take some inner perverse pleasure gettin there just ahead of the car you know will make the pickup if you don't, but thinkin with the big head in that fraction of a second before you strike is way cool too. Make sure its gold, and not fools gold. Make sure she don't look or smell like death warmed over, it ain't worth the trubs. Look around one last time.

After a time, us old vets just shake our head in amazement and think back and hope that we weren't like that. That's way to far back for me, those brain cells died a long time ago. But I digress again. Learn to say the word NO, if you make a p/u and it just don't seem right. Yep, follow the old gut when there is nothin else to go on. I've had a few screamin all sorts of nasty, mean, rotten and dastardly things (not recently thank God), but for some reason it just didn't seem right at the moment regardless of what I thought at first. So I breakdown and if there is no other way of gettin em out, I throw em 5 or 10. Its worth it to me, not to some perhaps, but to me it is. Read my post a few days ago. If they don't smile, if they ain't the one in the picture (what makes you think that they won't lie to you again since they lied to you already once by fakin their pic, or if they say that the amount agreed on is only to take off their clothes?? make sure BEFORE you hand over your hare earned moola), or they ain't at least somewhat friendly right off the start, then I don't bother any further and NO positively becomes the operative word. When you have decided to go ahead with the deal, be explicit with what you want, and unless she's a newbie, you ain't gonna say much that she hasn't heard at one time or another. I'm sure neither one of you took mind reading in school, and if you did, most likely you flunked same as the rest of us.

It don't matter if its SW or CL, or any other, you can still make wise choices and still make it friendly and respectful. Let em know that bait and switch in any form is adios, find someone else to BS for the rent money, I don't need it or tolerate it. Not hardcore, just fact. Nowadays, the price of gas makes the hobby expensive, doin somethin stupid is even more expensive. Just some more idle ramblins from an old fart. To be continued......... stay free.

10safe

I have to give you props for a post well done. Christ, it almost brought tears to my eyes. With this you elevate yourself to Wastrel level posting.

Domino Harvey
05-11-06, 03:00
This may be old news to some local veterans here, but just to let the out-of-towners know:

Stay away from the The Budget Suites on Trop (by I-15). The Suites there are currently under a massive bust by the Feds. Evidently there has been some serious drug trafficking (some of the biggest in Vegas) in some of the suites there and the place is under some serious surveillance. The Feds got a tip and are now swarming everywhere watching every move in the area. A few of my regular ladies I see on a weekly basis there suddenly packed up and got the hell out of dodge, one I still can't get a hold of. Two of the providers I'm still in touch with arent users -go figure.

This is very bad news to our hobby for a variety of reasons. Incall providers that create heavy foot traffic that gets mistaken for attention, our favorite providers disappearing into thin air, SW activity diminishing on Trop, just to name a few. I personally could care less if drugs are wiped off the face of this planet, but it doesnt matter if you're a user or not, it hurts this hobby in more ways than one when the Feds swarm in. You better hope your provider doesnt have a pipe sitting on her dresser with a stash in her purse when you're romping in the bedroom when they bust through that door. Getting busted by the local cops is bad enough, but the feds..? No thanks.

Stay safe gentlemen, no pussy is worth time in federal prison.

Thunderbolt47
05-12-06, 02:20
Domino Harvey wrote:

"You better hope your provider doesn't have a pipe sitting on her dresser when you're romping in the bedroom when they bust through that door. Getting busted by the local cops is bad enough, but the feds? No thanks."

"Stay safe gentlemen, no pussy is worth time in federal prison."

Land of the FREE?

Mr Books
06-06-06, 14:48
BTW, it really doesn't need to be said....but maybe there are some that do not know....if you are black, its gonna be real hard to pick up a cg in Vegas unless you're like a celebrity or something. Really, you have a better chance of sacking a normal chick at a club.Not trying to start a flame session, but why is this true? I noticed that some of the ads on CL even say 'no black men', but what is the rationale behind that? From the sound of it, my black friends and I need not try to have any 'fun', except for the SW game, right?

Norman Stormin
06-08-06, 10:37
you could park right at the front door of the airport and pick up the world's most beautiful weekend warriors every Friday evening. Although you now have to park a mile away and pay for the privilege, a column in today's RJ prompted me to think this hunting ploy may still have merit.

"Waiting for someone gives you time to observe, which is why I don't fret about getting to the airport early, where some of the greatest people-watching in the world is available. My favorite flight time out of Las Vegas is Friday night, when you see the influx of Sluts-R-Us flying in for a working weekend in Las Vegas."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-08-Thu-2006/news/7841302.html

Anyone up for renting a limo this Friday?

"Let me help you with that bag ma'am, your limo is right this way."

Vegas Black
06-08-06, 11:02
Not trying to start a flame session, but why is this true? I noticed that some of the ads on CL even say 'no black men', but what is the rationale behind that? From the sound of it, my black friends and I need not try to have any 'fun', except for the SW game, right?A lot of CG's and SW's think every Black guy out there is a Pimp trying to grab them. Also black dudes have a bad rep of robbing the girls. they also dont want to deal with our "big" dicks" and some claim we are to rough with sex.

I'am black, and been turned down plenty.

For some odd reason, they prefer mexicans.

Be safe out there, and be patient.

Bigboi47
06-08-06, 13:06
Not trying to start a flame session, but why is this true? I noticed that some of the ads on CL even say 'no black men', but what is the rationale behind that? From the sound of it, my black friends and I need not try to have any 'fun', except for the SW game, right?
In my expirence women have either had a bad session with a black guy usually younger guys. I use to be a regular of a lady who did not see black men except for me. There are even some black ladies wont wont see black men it is their body and they can choose who they will fuck and wont fuck. A white guy was arrested for the murder of the casino girl found dead in the hallway on the 25th floor of Mandeley Bay she probaly was told not to date black men that advice did not help her in that instance.

IndyDave
06-08-06, 17:18
You nailed it, Stormin...I love sitting at McCarran gate on Friday afternoon, waiting for my (usually late from LAX) flight. What goes prancing by, comin' off those cheapo SWA seats, is fun to watch....One many occasions, I've concluded that I probably know precisely what she's in town for.




"Waiting for someone gives you time to observe, which is why I don't fret about getting to the airport early, where some of the greatest people-watching in the world is available. My favorite flight time out of Las Vegas is Friday night, when you see the influx of Sluts-R-Us flying in for a working weekend in Las Vegas."
"Let me help you with that bag ma'am, your limo is right this way."

Speck
06-08-06, 21:11
A lot of CG's and SW's think every Black guy out there is a Pimp trying to grab them. Also black dudes have a bad rep of robbing the girls. they also dont want to deal with our "big" dicks" and some claim we are to rough with sex.

I'am black, and been turned down plenty.

For some odd reason, they prefer mexicans.

Be safe out there, and be patient.

Vegas black is correct. Even the black pimps tell their ho's not to date black guys. The perception is:

1.) Black guys are pimps
2.) Black guys don't want to pay as much
3.) Black guys are too big and rough.
4.) Black guys will rob the girls.

I'm making no judgement as to whether or not the above are true. Some girls are probably missing out on good money. But that is the perception that ho's have.

OTOH, I have seen black guys score some sweet poon at some of the lounges and clubs for free(though not really free when you consider the total cost).

Vegas Black
06-10-06, 19:50
Another thing that may surprise you, is that there are anumber of white/latino CG's and SW's that will only do black dudes.

They are a rare find, but out there.

Be safe out there.

Erotic Daniele
06-12-06, 07:35
As being a mixed provider (race) and starting off as a pimped lady in Vegas over a yr ago, ladies tend not to see blk guys for the reason he could be a pimp, or may be too cheap or in fact could rob you or something worse, but to my surprise I was harassed and followed around a casino by a white guy after chatting with him for 20 mins too long to realize and be told that he was a pimp. It may sound funny but they arent just blk.. I have never since past judgement on anyone again.. After leaving Vegas and leaving the pimped life ( NOW independent) I am still picky, as in my past dating life I wasnt attracted to blk guys and have my preferences, although one of my frequent and well respected clients is a blk man, that is all about hustling (in a different way) and treats me with the upmost respect and has never once tried to harm, disrespect or "claim" me ever. He has left a few of my reviews and if read you could pick him out.

Most VEGAS SW and CG are told not to chat, look or even smile at the blkguys, NONE of them as if you do and they are in the "game" they can take it a different way and it could mean trouble for you (the girl).

I hope this helps and was informative.

Muggs
07-02-06, 15:09
A lot of CG's and SW's think every Black guy out there is a Pimp trying to grab them. Also black dudes have a bad rep of robbing the girls. they also dont want to deal with our "big" dicks" and some claim we are to rough with sex.

I'am black, and been turned down plenty.

For some odd reason, they prefer mexicans.

Be safe out there, and be patient.

As Snoop would say.."we don't love them hoes"

XXXBob
07-03-06, 22:07
Maybe it has been covered I could t find it.

In order to pick up a CG, does it have to be from the hotel your staying at? What if I find one in another casino that I don't have a room at?

Wastrel
07-04-06, 11:09
Maybe it has been covered I could t find it.

In order to pick up a CG, does it have to be from the hotel your staying at? What if I find one in another casino that I don't have a room at?I don't know about covered, but it's been mentioned from time to time over the past several years. I don't know how you'd construct search terms to ferret out those particular posts, so my best recollection of the answer others have reported is: maybe, perhaps, sometimes, but not always. I don't spend a lot of time on the Strip, but my own experience is that I haven't had much trouble taking the CGs on a short trip to another major hotel within the South Las Vegas Blvd resort corridor, but have run into more reluctance to go off-Strip, especially among working ladies who are not local. My educated guesses on reasons vary with the individual: she's been ordered not to stray too far by her Uncle Leroy, security has had a problem with her at another property, her feeling of safety in a familiar place, or simply her calculation of time and travel expense vs. expected profit to be had per minute.

But if you're on the Strip with money to blow, you'll have plenty of choices and no good reason to put up with a lot of rules that don't suit you. You're the employer, she's the job applicant, you don't work for her, and there are always plenty more where she came from if that's not how she sees it.

Lolligagger
07-04-06, 19:17
CGs are my thing when in town. I have never ever had a problem taking
a girl back to my room from another casino[ as long as your staying in a
reputable hotel on or near the strip] If you are staying at the Shit House
Hotel on E. Charleston than you have a problem.

Guady1
07-06-06, 03:45
Has anyone scoped out Hooters?
I figure since it is a male themed casino, a smart cw would go there.
I have been in there once with a friend for less than twenty minutes, it was
late at night and not many people.

I think picking up sw's is too risky. If you meet someone in a casino, you can talk alittle and feel her out. I am also looking to in-call apts.

PsyberZombie
07-06-06, 08:34
Maybe it has been covered I could t find it.

In order to pick up a CG, does it have to be from the hotel your staying at? What if I find one in another casino that I don't have a room at?

Try *this* , XXXBob =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=301189&postcount=1583

Speck
07-06-06, 22:34
Has anyone scoped out Hooters?
I figure since it is a male themed casino, a smart cw would go there.
I have been in there once with a friend for less than twenty minutes, it was
late at night and not many people.

I think picking up sw's is too risky. If you meet someone in a casino, you can talk alittle and feel her out. I am also looking to in-call apts.

Hooters is not good for cw's.

But MGM is great and is right across the street.

Mr Troll
07-07-06, 18:26
I stayed in the Hooters a week ago. There was a working girl there at the bar in front on Wednesday night, at about 2am. She was talking about one of the bartenders as if they knew each other, so maybe they have some kind arrangement (I do not know much about Vegas, but I assume the girls tip the bartenders well to look the other way).

The next night at around the same time I think there were three CG there at the bar. I only spoke with one of them, and she pointed out the other two. None of the four were high-end , but all were two steps up from snaggle-toothed SW.

On Friday morning at 6AM, I was solicited by a girl while walking back to Hooters from breakfast at the Carrow's next door. She was cute, but I was not interested at the moment. I was also a bit concerned about even talking to her, without knowing her age. She looked old enough, but I could not be sure.

I general, I have found it difficult to spot working girls in Vegas. Maybe it sounds strange, but usually when I walk into a casino there do not appear to be girls at the bar looking for company. I was surprised to find so many girls working at Hooters in such a short period of time, and I do not know if it was a fluke or not.

Guady1
07-08-06, 04:27
You can spot a cw in a casino if you watch her for a while. legit girls don't loiter in the casino. They are usually with a guy or two or more girls and they are on the move.
A cw is there on a mission and she will be looking. They like to plant themselves next to potential clients as well. Just search out someone of interest, and watch what she does. Does she look like she is trying to socialize? maybe gamble to fit in, if she talks to the bartender in a long friendly way, she a cw.

Yes, bartenders are on the take. My earlier post talked about the underground economy. The bartender gets paid for not calling security to have her removed, the doorman gets paid to send a load to a limo driver, the valet gets paid to park the cw's car "right up front", the security gets paid from all different kinds of angles (like one guy I knew who used to remove the trespass cards on file), the housekeeper gets paid "servicing" not just the room, man, the list just goes on.

Thanks for the info on Hooters, I figured if any of the cw's were smart, they would hang out at hooters with such a high ratio of men, almost as easy pickings, like a navy woman on a 5000 person aircraft carrier.

Lotsoffun201
07-08-06, 08:51
In my experience CW's are pretty easy to spot. They are usually at the higher end video poker bars. The bartenders seem to know them, and a good tip off is that there is an empty tip glass in front of them with a single $5 bill in it. They are usually playing video poker one credit at a time, and ALWAYS have a cell phone in plain view. Since they always have a phone they are NEVER at the sportsbook bars since cellphones are illegal at sportsbooks.

Muggs
07-08-06, 17:00
Anyone ever hooked up with filipina providers? CW, AMP, Apts?

Whimbly
07-12-06, 21:20
Went to lv in late may/early june and had a grand ol time. I have the opportunity for much stripper action in the carolinas so I was not headed to strip clubs or trying to bang a casino girl just surveying the scene and trying to get as many out of town freebies as possible.

did see lots of cg mainly black ones with the occasional white chick. Saw lots in Ceasars and tons out side of Flamingo. Even saw a few out side of new york and binions. One my one free night I tried to get one but of the twenty I saw only one would talk and this is after i "accidentally" bumped into her while looking at the neon lights. But this was at 4 am and by then my pockets were busted. did get anumber not sure if it is still good. Was a young thick light skinned chick named Honey. ,ost of the chicks I saw were in pairs

Whimbly
07-12-06, 22:22
When I mentioned that most would not talk to me I must add I am a young(under 30) african american though more nerd than pimp. they would not even make eye contact

Wastrel
07-12-06, 22:46
...I must add I am a young(under 30) african american though more nerd than pimp. they would not even make eye contactIf you are planning to come back to town sometime, and don't mind accepting it for free, I know a small casino/bar/hotel far on the other side of town where several of the cocktail waitresses and the barmaid would fight with each other to drool all over you and want to nurse you on the spot. I've seen close to that very thing more than once there.

I, on the other hand, have had to invest weeks of hard effort into getting a particular cocktail kitty there only about halfway seduced into bed, so far, since I'm a pasty faced guy who hasn't got the loveable nerdy lost puppy thing down. Life is unfair.

Wastrel
07-13-06, 18:20
Apparently I created quite a fan club for a little neighborhood casino, the PMs I've been getting might outnumber the doable cocktail waitresses in this place, and I haven't even closed the deal on my own chocolate cocktail condiment yet, so: requests for information will now be respectfully ignored. Nothing personal.

It's my own fault, just seemed that Whimbly's self-description perfectly fit the profile of what I've seen these particular young ladies coo and gush over when it walks in: youngish soft spoken polite African-American guys who are the opposite of MTV hip-hop bad boy fashion. Place is in a sketchy neighborhood, and it seems these girls are sick and tired of the other thing, and want to adopt a puppy with benefits. But you'll have to find your own similar place, cause this one couldn't handle that much traffic. The ladies will get spoiled by all the new attention and tips, and they won't love Wastrel anymore.

Older Guy
07-15-06, 03:08
I just returned from LV where I stayed at the TI. The scene at the TI was some very cute black CGs at about 3 am. I was looking and so were they. I did not stop to negotiate so I don't know the going asking price since I am not into black but one that was talking to another guy was cute enough to almost make me change my mind. I was stopped twice from the front entrance to the elevator, second time was at the bar.

I had just returned from checking out the V across the street where I was also approached by a thick white CG. I later saw her just sitting at a slot machine just outside one of the clubs in the back. I guess she was just looking to pick up some quick business. I also saw some black CGs while I was posted by the self park escalators. Those were just smile and nods. If I moved, the CG would stop and give me the look and I would wave her off as I'm not into to the dark meat.

Stay safe,
OG

tester896
07-15-06, 13:17
I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.

Vegas Partier
07-15-06, 15:23
I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.They're a scam. All you'll get from those services is the same girls who are hanging out in the casino bars, but now you'll have to pay a $150 "agency fee" on top of everything.

Vegas Black
07-15-06, 20:22
Apparently I created quite a fan club for a little neighborhood casino, the PMs I've been getting might outnumber the doable cocktail waitresses in this place, and I haven't even closed the deal on my own chocolate cocktail condiment yet, so: requests for information will now be respectfully ignored. Nothing personal.

It's my own fault, just seemed that Whimbly's self-description perfectly fit the profile of what I've seen these particular young ladies coo and gush over when it walks in: youngish soft spoken polite African-American guys who are the opposite of MTV hip-hop bad boy fashion. Place is in a sketchy neighborhood, and it seems these girls are sick and tired of the other thing, and want to adopt a puppy with benefits. But you'll have to find your own similar place, cause this one couldn't handle that much traffic. The ladies will get spoiled by all the new attention and tips, and they won't love Wastrel anymore.

Hmmm.........

if that place is on the eastside of town, I think I know here its at. I'll xheck it out this weekend.
Be safe out there........

Bigboi47
07-15-06, 23:47
I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.
Look at the pictures but DO NOT CALL! What will happen they will send you a girl not the one in the picture. Then they will upsell you $150 just to take off her clothes any thing else will be expensive.

Norman Stormin
07-16-06, 09:46
Hmmm.........

if that place is on the eastside of town, I think I know here its at. I'll xheck it out this weekend.
Be safe out there........

That's gotta be on the westside, the REAL WESTSIDE ! As in Moulin Rouge territory !

Guady1
07-16-06, 17:00
Those cards were geared for out of town suckers. I know a guy who collects them! One thing you must not do is give your CC number to them or any agency. She will come to you and B/S you and ask for more money. Plus, if you don't agree with what the girl is going to do for you, try to imagine getting your money back. You will have to tell the CC company you were not happy with her services and your business will be out there. Also, while I am on this subject, dont use the ATM at MP's, I know a MP that got busted where I used to live and they confiscated the machine and looked up all the users.

Cash always talks and make sure you and her have a good understanding of how much you will be paying and what you will be getting BEFORE she even enters the room. Send her on her way if you are not getting what YOU want.

The key will be your bargaining ability, its like going into a grocery store hungry, you will grab more things based on your hunger at the moment. If you go out mongering and you are "hard up" for some action, you will pay a higher price to quickly get that stress release. take your time, take a deep breath, keep in mind there are a lot more of them, they may not always fall in your lap, but they are out there somewhere-waiting.

Xerman
07-17-06, 10:22
I have experimented with using the escort services in Vegas and like any city you have to be careful. One thing is that if you want a particular lady that you chose from a web page then do not accept someone else. If you want a particular type of lady then do not accept someone who is clearly not what you are looking for.

Hell one time the agency was so whacked out that they had 4 ladies coming to my door at once and I turned then all away! The agency just kept calling ladies with no concern to what I requested and that can result in a multiple delivery that includes none that were of interest to me.

I have had sucess getting ladies to give me their direct number and later we would hook up and bypass the agency.

Vegas has so many options and you have to find some that work for you.

Have fun.

xerman

Speck
07-17-06, 20:26
I am visiting LV soon and was wondering about those little cards that people pass out all over the strip with a picture of a girl and a number. Are those worth calling or are they a total scam? Thanks for the help.

Scam. Here is what happens:

1.) You call. They ask what you want your girl to look like. They tell you it is $150-300 to have a girl come to your room.

2.) Girl arrives. She may or may not look like what you asked for. You are horny so you let her in anyway. You pay her. She hands it out the door.

3.) She now tells you that the initial money was the agency fee. She tells you it will be $300 for anything else.

then one of two things happen:

4.) You are smart so you ask if that includes sex. She says "oh no, thats illegal". After a few more minutes she quotes $600+ for fs. And it really will cost that much.

or

5.) You are dumb and hand her $300. She takes off her clothes and is in a bikini. She dances for 5-10 minutes and leaves.

The end.

TodoRob
07-18-06, 16:40
Any tips for a fellow monger with a 2 or 3 hr window without the family?
Staying on the strip. between 10:00PM and 12:00AM

Member 2006
07-19-06, 12:54
[QUOTE=Speck]Scam. Here is what happens:

Great info, Speck. I've often wondered the same thing. Thanks.

What about the working girls at the bar? What is typical $$ for them?

Sticks
07-19-06, 16:41
Anyone ever hooked up with filipina providers? CW, AMP, Apts?Sorry I procrastinated but I have a report from last month. I was in Vegas and am starting to rack up some experience. I stayed at Sams Town as they comp me. I arrived very late on a Sunday eve\Mon. morn and was playing in poker tourny in the morning so was not interested in a long hunt. I walked down boulder highway as far as Arizona charlies to scope it out. Nothing happening till I got to parking lot, there were 2 sw hanging out in valet area talking to attendant. Young white trash looking. I went inside to go pee and came out and they were gone. I walked back and called it a night.

Monday eve I called an ad from city life for private incall oriental massage. Girls name was Miko and she turned out to be phillipino. Was very nice $1/2 for erotic massage and got into daty completely and me touching her allover. Was a complete gfe. Location was on Decatur I think a few blocks south of sahara.

I decide to go 2 for 2 and in a few hours parked at excallibur and started scoping it out. Played pker for a couple hours and then walked along bridges to New york. was met by 2 young young girls, 1 black 1 white I asked age and they said 20, I didn't believe it so played bj in New York. After winning 2$ I started toward corner of trop again walked as far as Luxor. At about 4am in nile bar by front door found Sarah. She was keeping low profile at video bar but I could tell she was working. Sat next to her and in 5 minutes we were heading to my car at Exc. she agreed to $1.5 I couldnt believe it. she was a little tipsy, and a knockout petite about 29 years old and brunette. She kept flashing tits and kitty and wanting me to touch her on way back to car. I think to make sure I was not le. She came back to my place for GFE 2 in 1 night for me a record, She was outsatanding. I called I payed for her taxi and would love to see her again. She flys out from georgia a few time a year to work.

So yes sometimes the girls will go off strip back to your place if they trust you.

Later guys

Monger X
07-20-06, 14:30
Was in Vegas yesterday and decided to cruise the spots mentioned on here for some late afternoon adventure. Was out around 4:30 PM, drove Fremont/Boulder. I didn't see any 10's but I did see five 2's. Also saw metro on a bike having a chat with one BSW not far from LVB. Continued down to Boulder where nothing was seen except a couple white unmarked LE Fords. Turned down Trop to see if anything was happeneing in the ususal spot since all the roadwork was finished since last time I was there. Trop was DEAD around 5:15. There was one skinny WSW in front of the Shell station with I presume her pimp on his hot little kiddie bike. Not worth doing. Also one chunky BSW at the fast food place across the street. Not into chocolate so passed on that as well.

Xerman
07-20-06, 18:15
Sticks,

Good report, I have met with Miko once, but it was an outcall to my room and I thought she was cute and fun. When I make it out that way again, I will have to give her a ring.

That pick up you had at the bar was great for Vegas. Getting a pro from the bars is a bit of a mixed bag. I have had good times and some hook ups that did not work so well.

Don't be too good, and be careful.

Xerman

Webcams
07-20-06, 23:15
Surprised more of you guys don't discuss this option, I have had a couple of Amazing experiences this way and am Finding it to work out better then s/w's or the CG Or casino Bar girls when I am in Vegas. Of course ya can't do it every time but a couple times a year makes the rest of the year so much more enjoyable.

Wastrel
07-21-06, 00:05
Take one casino hooker perched on barstool downstairs, garnish with retouched photos, add another thick layer of extra pimping, shake cellphone lightly, and serve up one "escort" to go at door of hotel room upstairs.

Webcams
07-21-06, 23:40
The high price escorts I am talking about look the part run 12 -2500 an hour and I have yet to see them in the casino bars however feel free to let me know if you are aware of them in any of the bars, I have been to every major casino on and off the strip and have yet to see casino bar girls that meet the same standards I might have missed a hidden bar in a casino somewhere but I doubt it, the best I have seen run around mgm, mandalay & Bellagio. Yet there not the same quality, not even close.

Vegas Whit #1
07-22-06, 17:06
First it was STD's in the Villages retirement community in central Florida, now this in Las Vegas

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jul-22-Sat-2006/news/8637098.html

Speck
07-26-06, 01:54
Most of my Vegas mongering is on the weekends.

However, I was there Sunday and Monday night. Venetian to BC.

Sunday night there were very few sw out late night(after 4am). Lots of joggers which I do not get at all. Metro out which I found totally bizarre as this is the latest I have seen Metro out doing foot patrols. No pimps either

Monday night. Around 2am. Lots of fat white girls. Not what I want to spend money on. Kudos to Metro arresting at least one pimp(and dragging him handcuffed down LVB). At least one LE agency has the guts to arrest the only dangerous people in the prostitution circle(customers, girls, pimps). Also saw one really amazing looking cg get read the tresspass warning at Harrahs. Tons of Metro everywhere. One cg at Flamingo came on to me pretty strong. She grabbed my hand and placed it near her upper body. But when I went to rub her breast she pushed me away. That is my standard LE check with cg's...just a quick innocuous squeeze really to keep me safe. This is the first time one pushed my hand away. Ever. So I left immediately. I am unaware that Metro places undercovers in casinos, and this girl probably was legit, but its not worth the risk to me when I have a 100% failproof method at my disposal.

Overall, its MUCH easier to pick up cg's in this area on weekends. No Metro(too busy with other stuff), more girls, better quality, more chance at a decent price.

Dudeman-12
07-26-06, 08:08
I wanted to thank a previous poster on tips for picking up working girls on the strip and also casinos. I was in Vegas couple of weeks ago and staying at Caesars Palace. Based on the tips one night I walked the strip towards Mandalay Bay and saw several working girls walking. Close to Monte Carlo saw one walking by herself and asked if she was looking for company and if I could buy her a drink. She was a gorgeous 22 year old latino born in East LA and a stunning pair of legs. We had a drink at the Monte Carlo and she ended up driving back with me to Casears. We picked up some Red Bull and Grey Goose on the way back and some protection. Overall the damage was $300 but it was worth it and we ended the evening in the shower cleaning each other quite thoroughly.

Night two I was walking out of Caesars and spotted this gorgeous African American lady coming in and kept staring at her. She smiled and gave me the look. I walked over to her and asked if she was looking for company and within 10 minutes we are back at my room. She had this thing about not showing her boobs even though I did get to them eventually. I would say an ok evening and the damage was $250.

Night three I was walking the casino and close to the Shadow bar at Caesars ran into this gorgeous 19 year old from Iowa. I stared talking to her and bought her a drink and things went from there. Once again ended up in my room and the damage was $300 and wow what a gal. She was gorgeous with a behind to die for.

So in short Caesars and the strip has several working girls who are gorgeous and nice for a decent price.

Happy Mongering

A very satisfied human being

Danielcazenove
07-26-06, 13:57
Most girls at the bar in Vegas after 10pm are not working girls, having this attitude will certainly lead to trouble, most are tourist some regulars some working and some members of law enforcment working to make arrests, never assume everyones working even at a ho convention that's just stupid.I'm posting this in both General Reports and Rip-offs (the quote is from a post in Rip-offs). I hope it's kosher to do it. How bad is the presence of LE at the bars? I've read through this board for a week (an hour each day) in preparation of my first trip to Vegas. First trip, and alone (with no wife in tow). Haven't seen much talk about LE. After reading your posts, I was inclined to think that I should look for CGs at some of the bars (at the Bay, Bellagio, Luxor, MGM in particular) or to walk between the Bay and the Luxor or between the NY and Excalibur, hoping to be approached by one of those reported young SW. Now that you suddenly mentioned LE, hmm.

Thanks for any feedback,

Dan

Speck
07-26-06, 21:19
I'm posting this in both General Reports and Rip-offs (the quote is from a post in Rip-offs). I hope it's kosher to do it. How bad is the presence of LE at the bars? I've read through this board for a week (an hour each day) in preparation of my first trip to Vegas. First trip, and alone (with no wife in tow). Haven't seen much talk about LE. After reading your posts, I was inclined to think that I should look for CGs at some of the bars (at the Bay, Bellagio, Luxor, MGM in particular) or to walk between the Bay and the Luxor or between the NY and Excalibur, hoping to be approached by one of those reported young SW. Now that you suddenly mentioned LE, hmm.

Thanks for any feedback,

Dan

Do a 100% failproof LE check. Once she knows you are interested, make sure you touch her breasts. Ask her first if you want. If she says no, walk away. If she says yes, or lets you, 100% she is not LE. Be discreet, you are out in public.

Wastrel
07-26-06, 22:06
How bad is the presence of LE at the bars?Zip. They're not in the business of working hard to scare the tourists out of the casinos.

If you want to worry about something inside the casino, worry about knocking back too many drinks and letting yourself become a trick roll target. Use your own room and stay in control of yourself and your environment. But police setting up in an operation on the busy casino floor to entice horny tourists, to take them down and thrash about among the tables and send chips flying around? Fuhgettaboutit.

Casino security is expected to police their own property. Precisely how they choose to accomplish that depends on business decisions of casino management, and can vary from property to property and from week to week at the same property. But, I have never heard of a single instance of the use of a policewoman in an undercover reverse prostitution sting operation by the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department conducted INSIDE a gaming property. Not once, ever, that I am aware of. There's a first time for everything, and maybe tomorrow will be the day, but if you manage to get stung as a male customer in a major casino you are just about the most unlucky man who has ever existed on the face of the earth. You could have an embarrassing moment if you have bad taste in women and poor judgement in public behaviour and manage to really piss them off, and if you then insist on making stupid statements about illegal intentions to security you could make yourself vulnerable, but you have to pretty much dig your own hole and really want to throw yourself in it to get them calling Metro P.D. to haul you to jail for trying to get laid.

The streets outside the casino are another matter, as are stings in hotels to bust the working women. That definitely does happen.

I have never worked in the gaming industry, and there are others here who have very extensive personal experience in casino security issues from the inside, and it's just about the most significant kind of that sort of experience that exists, so if they choose to extend or revise or correct any of my comments on this topic with their expertise you should definitely go with what they say, instead. I will.

But in case you missed it, the short answer I gave is: none.

Danielcazenove
07-27-06, 02:31
Zip. They're not in the business of working hard to scare the tourists out of the casinos.

If you want to worry about something inside the casino, worry about knocking back too many drinks and letting yourself become a trick roll target. Use your own room and stay in control of yourself and your environment.

The streets outside the casino are another matter, as are stings in hotels to bust the working women. That definitely does happen.

Thank you. I don't drink, so I should be able to control myself. What did you mean by "use your own room"? As opposed to what, sex in the (glass) elevator?

How dangerous (in terms of Metro action) does it get out on the street? There have been several reports on here about rather young looking girls walking up to hobbists who were strolling between casinos.

Guady1
07-27-06, 04:05
The presence of LE at bars is real.
I used to work casino security and try to pass on my experience when I can.
I will admit there weren't many "reverse stings", stings that LE used LE women to bring down the johns.

As stated, those johns were very unlucky, because I hardly heard of our casino using them, but I do remember it happening and I do remember trying to study the "makeup" of these women.

From what I could remember, they concentrated on the cg, especially at the bars. They used to tell us to "stay out of the bars" and let LE, do their work.

I thought the idea of squeezing the charmin, to test her before you get invloved sounded good, but I don't know LE women and what lengths they would go to get their john. I remember seeing on "cops" a LE woman tell the john, she was not the police.

I would not worry at all about the reverse sting, I think it happens too infrequent to feel like you would get caught. As someone stated, be very careful about who you bring to your room.

Lockup everything before you go hunting. Take the money you want to spend. Don't be drunk and don't take a shower WITHOUT her.

Casino security can't do much, unless they know the cw has been trespassed from their property. If she has I.D., there is not much they can do. They can watch her pick up a john and go to his room. What crime has been committed?
What happens behind close doors is thier business. I actually saw a girl go into a room, so I stood outside and I heard the guy offering dope for sex.

I just try to tell you to relax because you won't enjoy yourself as much worrying about getting picked up. Read the posts, both experiences and advice and you will be okay.

Danielcazenove
07-27-06, 16:35
I thought the idea of squeezing the charmin, to test her before you get invloved sounded good, but I don't know LE women and what lengths they would go to get their john.I would think that they would let you squeeze as much as you can - there isn't any police rule that enjoins them from letting a suspect squeeze them, is there? Now, on the other hand, if she squeezes you. That would be prohibited, I think. After reading these posts from Senior members, I incline to put the chances of LE action at the bars down to 1%. On the other hand, I've heard that LE has been actively using craigslist to get us.

Wastrel
07-27-06, 17:57
Thank you. I don't drink, so I should be able to control myself. What did you mean by "use your own room"? As opposed to what, sex in the (glass) elevator?

How dangerous (in terms of Metro action) does it get out on the street? There have been several reports on here about rather young looking girls walking up to hobbists who were strolling between casinos.I don't drink either, but I can still sometimes have the attitude of a drunk, especially when a very pretty little kitty purrs in my ear. I was suggesting that it is not usual practice to be asked to go to "her place" and it is wise to be suspicious of any suggestion to do that. Her room, her apartment, her car, her whatever, all wrong numbers. Some guys do and sometimes it works out OK for them, but it increases the risk a lot. Working girls on the Strip routinely expect to perform their service in your room, but if you happen to run into one wanting to take you to hers instead I'd suspect a possible set up for a robbery. From time to time guys get rolled by following a sweet little thing instead of leading her, being lured to a place where sweetie's rude uncles can suddenly interrupt the party, and they do not have a nice day.

I've got nothing against glass elevators. Smile for the camera.

Metro has been staging some publicity stunts the last several weeks around the city with various kinds of hooker round-ups, but the LE situation on the street remains exactly the same as on the street in Topeka or Tallahassee or anywhere else, and the same commonsense precautions are called for on the streets of Las Vegas. A street decoy needs to camp out in one place where the LE surveillance is set up, and will not be going with you to someplace where she has no backup available to keep her safe. There were three guys caught up in the recent Metro operation, and each of them got that way doing their business in a publicly visible spot right next to the streetcorner where they picked up someone Metro was already fixing to bust.

There are generally a lot of ladies of easy virtue circulating around the walkways outside the resorts. Some are welcome in the casinos like any other customer, and some are not, for whatever reason. I want nothing to do with those who are not.

Speck
07-27-06, 21:41
I have never worked in the gaming industry, and there are others here who have very extensive personal experience in casino security issues from the inside, and it's just about the most significant kind of that sort of experience that exists, so if they choose to extend or revise or correct any of my comments on this topic with their expertise you should definitely go with what they say, instead. I will.

But in case you missed it, the short answer I gave is: none.

There is a several year old episode of cops where they are set up in a major strip hotel with male undercovers. It is not the undercover cop as an arab sheik episode. Eventually there is a scene where a transsexual prostitute comes in to the hotel room(they do not show its face). There is conversation that indicates that the uc officer met the transsexual in the casino and brought him up to the room. So although I believe rare, I also believe this indicates that Las Vegas Metro will run undercover stings in the casinos on occasion.

Speck
07-27-06, 21:43
I thought the idea of squeezing the charmin, to test her before you get invloved sounded good, but I don't know LE women and what lengths they would go to get their john. I remember seeing on "cops" a LE woman tell the john, she was not the police.


Police can lie.

Always.

In every state.

Its legal.

They can also deceive, trick, and use guile to gain information, an arrest, or a confession.

Use the touch test. No female cop is gonna let you touch her tits.

Speck
07-27-06, 21:58
What did you mean by "use your own room"?

He means: Use your own room.

IE, do not go to a room the girl might have.

You know what is in your room. You have no clue what might lurk in a room the girl takes you to.

Every legit cg will go with you to your room.




How dangerous (in terms of Metro action) does it get out on the street? There have been several reports on here about rather young looking girls walking up to hobbists who were strolling between casinos.

Once you start talking....you know, small talk like "hi, where are you heading to" and stuff like that....hold her hand....seriously...actually, she will probably take your hand first. Tell her you would like company, or just say yes when she asks. That is the point where you should do the touch test. Then put your arm around her, quietly negotiate the terms. Don't be stupid or insulting. Head to your room. Place your wallet in the safe..as well as anything else valuable.

Wastrel
07-28-06, 01:10
There is a several year old episode of cops where they are set up in a major strip hotel with male undercovers...I haven't seen or heard of that episode before, but I have no trouble at all believing what you described. Since it involves bringing a working girl (or in this case some kind of imitation thereof) to a designated room where they have set up in advance and have complete control of the environment, probably including the adjacent rooms too, there is no danger of any civilians in the way, tourists getting hurt, or any disruption to the casino's business.

Of course I have known working girls who have told me about getting busted in outcall escort service stings set up in hotels like that, as I'm sure you have too. "Ringy-dingy, yeah is this hot babe #3 from the ad in the Vegas Weekly Curbclutter? Can you come party with me in room 666 at the Ionosphere Hotel right away?" Just like that oil sheik episode.

Now I will go watch my cherished recording of the classic "Coco the Clown" vice officer episode again. See the SW ask Coco if he's a cop. See him say "oh no baby I'm a lonely clown and you're cute" and sadisticly fire off a noisemaker shooting confetti in her face. See her procede to mention money and sex, and promptly get busted in Coco's clownmobile. See her sobbing "I thought you were a cop, but you said you weren't, you can't arrest me" while being stuffed into the back of a patrol car.

Dudeman-12
07-28-06, 07:40
The ladies on the street they usually do not look much like working girls at all. But you will see them dressed provocatively and either are walking alone or with another girl. The approach I use is "can I walk with you?" and then if she agrees walk with her, shoot the breeze with her and then ask her if you can buy her a drink. If she is a working girl and wants to go with you she will come over to your Casino and obviously prices can be negotiated on the way or at the Casino.

I ran into a lady on the strip near Paris and walked with her for a couple of minutes. I told her I was staying at Caesars and wether she would join me to which she replied that she does not go into Caesars. At that point I said have a wonderful evening and bailed.

But I agree with the earlier posters bring them into your environment and use the safe they have in the rooms.

On thing to note is even at the bars at Caesars there are a lot of working girls and also the bartenders seem to be in the loop. I have also seen the working girls who stand out have been asked to leave the Casinos.

My two cents

Happy Hunting

PsyberZombie
07-28-06, 08:59
In Jack Sheehan's book Skin City , Clark County Sheriff Bill Clark is quoted extensively from a 2003 inter·view
[ Clark Co. Sheriff because The Strip isn't in Las Vegas proper ]

A synopsis = he says that they *used* to do stings where they set up shop in a Strip Hotel with male officers impersonating tourists and getting out·call girls to show up and get busted

... but ultimately they decided it was a waste of time , effort , and resources because the Real Targets of the UC·op — the operators of the out·call services — never got nailed ; and any girl they arrested was bailed out and back working before all the paper·work was done

There is NO mention of UC Hotel John Stings , so I wouldn't worry about that

This , and many more topics , are all covered in the chapter that deals with LE / sex in Vegas , titled
" I'll Be Watching You " , p. 181 ff.

BTW , I bought my copy at LAS [ McCarran Int'l Airport ] ; not only was it on sale , it's even autographed by the author

Vegas Partier
07-28-06, 13:56
In Jack Sheehan's book Skin City , Clark County Sheriff Bill Clark is quoted extensively from a 2003 inter·view
[ Clark Co. Sheriff because The Strip isn't in Las Vegas proper ]Doesn't matter, either way. The Clark County Sheriff is in charge of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department ("Metro"), which is both the Clark County Sheriff's Department and the City of Las Vegas Police.

KC Questor
07-28-06, 15:42
I would think that they would let you squeeze as much as you can - there isn't any police rule that enjoins them from letting a suspect squeeze them, is there?

If a police woman allowed the target of a sting to freely touch her breasts, and then arrested him for solicitation after a deal was struck, I'd say that was pretty good grounds for dismissal for entrapment. He could argue that he was enticed, not thinking straight, whatever. Unless he said right out "Now that this test tells me you are not a cop, I want to offer money for sex," he should have no problem in court. Of course it is still inconvenient to be arrested in the first place.

Danielcazenove
07-28-06, 16:55
Once you start talking. You know, small talk like "hi, where are you heading to" and stuff like that. Hold her hand. Seriously. Actually, she will probably take your hand first. Tell her you would like company, or just say yes when she asks. That is the point where you should do the touch test. Then put your arm around her, quietly negotiate the terms. Don't be stupid or insulting. Head to your room. Place your wallet in the safe. As well as anything else valuable. Thanks, Speck. Great advice, almost visual. Isn't it a bit awkward to put your hand around her, squeeze her boob, and then if she says 'it's $$$, sir' you just say 'oh no that's too much'?

Speck
07-29-06, 00:49
Thanks, Speck. Great advice, almost visual. Isn't it a bit awkward to put your hand around her, squeeze her boob, and then if she says 'it's $$$, sir' you just say 'oh no that's too much'?

Well, countering at $$ is really no prob. If she says no...she says no. But if you are expecting things will be less than that, you need to look elsewhere than on the strip.

PsyberZombie
07-29-06, 07:58
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=346419&postcount=75

Or take it one step furthur =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375152&postcount=345

Danielcazenove
07-29-06, 15:04
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=346419&postcount=75

Or take it one step furthur =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375152&postcount=345

Did you show her a purple chip? isn't that a bit too much (no the fact of showing it to her, but its value)

Danielcazenove
07-29-06, 15:15
Well, countering at $$ is really no prob. If she says no...she says no. But if you are expecting things will be less than that, you need to look elsewhere than on the strip.Sorry, I didn't ask the question properly. I didn't mean "isn't it awkward to negotiate with her" but "isn't it awkward to take her hand or put an arm around her and then negotiate, and if the negotiations do not come to fruition. Isn't it awkward to have had such close physical contact and then just let go and leave?"

:)

Speck
07-29-06, 21:55
Sorry, I didn't ask the question properly. I didn't mean "isn't it awkward to negotiate with her" but "isn't it awkward to take her hand or put an arm around her and then negotiate, and if the negotiations do not come to fruition. Isn't it awkward to have had such close physical contact and then just let go and leave?"

:)

No. It wont take long if you don't agree to price.

Webcams
07-30-06, 12:27
Doesn't matter, either way. The Clark County Sheriff is in charge of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department ("Metro"), which is both the Clark County Sheriff's Department and the City of Las Vegas Police.
That Is wierd, Sheriffs are Elected officials Usually, While Police Chiefs, are Employees Of the Department. There is no way 1 Person can oversee such large departments, Maybe why crime is escalating to many people going to Vegas both Live and visit not enough oversight on crime, to much political smoozing. Fuck Everyone is a politician.

Wastrel
07-30-06, 14:11
In a public spirited attempt to add clarity, I tried washing that through multiple translations, switching back and forth between English and Portugese, Spanish, Italian, French, Russian, and Greek.

This effort eventually gave birth to the following paragraph, which I am confident is in a form of American Standard English:

That one is wierd, sheriffs choose the civil employees generally, there is no way to supervise great head where it is in the used policeman department, by closed road 1. Perhaps why the crime is extending such people to go to fertile valleys, live and visit negligence. Kiss each politician, taken much together.

Your results may vary at http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Slacker
07-30-06, 20:34
This actually occurred in 2002 but I haven’t posted this report yet.

I was in US for 2 weeks on business. This was actually my first time in US and one of my spare time goals was to fuck an American prostitute. I been traveling all around the world I try to be with a local woman every place I go.

Also, having been groomed by my of the excellent American porn movies, I was under the impression that this was a liberal country when it comes to sex and prostitution.

The trip did not start off very well with some bad experiences in LA where I was scammed by women in ads in the LA Xpress so I wasn’t too impressed as I moved on to Las Vegas.

I am not a gambler, I only went since I read there was a lot of prostitutes there.

So I came to Vegas with the belief this was a city of sin and with the goal to pick up a nice looking hooker. I hade read some reports in this forum so I was prepared about where to go. It was a Tuesday and based on me research the MGM grand night club would be the place that where supposed to be most crowded on Tuesdays and the best place place to find a hooker in.

I started off by going to some of the strip clubs such as Spearmint Rhino for a few drinks. I haven’t been much in US but I had seen the strip clubs in LA and was hoping for something better here. How ever, though, it was a nice looking club, none of the girls where allowed to take of their panties. Each drink was also quite expensive and all the waitresses demanded big tips and women constantly kept coming up to try to sell me lap dances for USD 20. I tried one and found it to be quite boring since you are not allowed to touch the girls or anything. (or take the girl out of there)

In general, these strip clubs, are very uptight and was not the kind of place for me so I moved on to the one strip club I read about that both served alcohol and where the women took of all their clothes. (I think it was named Palomino Club ). It was in the outskirts of Las Vegas. This club was a bit more rough but the women working there where all quite ugly. I watched the women and knocked down a couple of more expensive drinks and went back to the Strip.

The Strip, which I had the impression in my mind to be an area packed with small bars and street walkers was more of a polished Disney styled world with spotless sidewalks and very few bars in sight. Its completely dominated by all the huge hotels. Not an easy area to just pop in for a quick beer.

So, disappointed of not having found any nice bar I went to the MGM night club around 12.p.m. to pick up a prostitute. To my amazement, there was a 100 meters long line to get in. Since I hate standing in lines I moved on to checked some of the other Casinos but it appeared that MGM was the place for the night.

But no problem right? I am in the City of sin. Right?

I took a cab and asked him to show me a place where I could fuck a prostitute. A brothel or whatever. He drove me to another area in the outskirts of the city.

“You can do it in there he claimed”

The club was located in a small building and sported a USD 30 entrance fee. I paid up and went in to the small house wandered around in some half empty dark rooms only saw a few women. Finally, I found room which had big screen TV showing pornos. A very good looking blond hostess with large beasts came up to me and asked if she could help me. It started to look quite promising.

I told her I was looking for a girl who can provide me full service. She said she could. I had, just a week earlier been scammed in LA by women from ads who in the end refused to do anything more than strip, so this time I was quite careful.

She offered that for USD 300 we could go into a separate bedroom and she would show me “a great time”

“What services will you provide?” I was trying to get her to be more specific but the only answers I got was. “You will not regret it” or “ we will give each other a great time”

Getting more and more suspious, I repeated my questions about exactly what service she would provide and she was getting more and more irritated with me. (And I with her).

I felt I needed to get her to specify what I would get for my USD 300. I knew, once I paid that money, I would have would have no leverage what so ever and I was beginning to suspect it was more of a lap dance place than a real brothel.
Maybe this has to do with US legalization or something but I never managed to get a straight answer from her so I left the place. Opposite I found a small “grunge-style” bar where I had a beer and contemplated the situation. It was now around 3 a.m. and I was starting to get very disappointed with Las Vegas. This was in no way the sleazy city I had hoped to find.

I took a new cab and asked him if there where and Discos open. He said, to my surprise, that most of the where closed but he took me to one Disco which was still open. This one turned out to be a boring teenage disco without a hooker in sight.

So I went back to the Strip to find that though some Casinos where still open. It was all very quite in the city which I expected to be a 24/7 bonanza in gambling, drinking and hookers.

My last car driver gave me a few leaflets to escort services. Since I tried calling on ads in LA and got scammed, I was very reluctant to try this again. I made a few phone calls. USD 400 to get a lade to my room. It as 5.a.m. in the morning. My flight left at 9. a.m I was tired and irritated and skipped the whole thing.

After that, I went on to New York where it was even more tricky to find a hooker. Basically, I spend a couple of days in LA, one day in Las Vegas and few days in New York. To goal was to score a US hooker but actually failed to find one.

The places I found dealing with hookers and strippers appeared to be very much into releasing you from your money rather than making you feel comfortable.

US left me with the impression that the country, which at least on the surface, is more prude than its image and you need to do a lot of research and probably a big wallet in order to find a good hooker here.

My bad LA encounter can be read about here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=8577&highlight=slacker#post8577

Best Regards,

Slacker

Jbm9913
07-30-06, 22:43
I'm coming out to Vegas for a weekend in August...first time I've been back out there in 8 years. I've read this forum on a daily basis and I've seen where most people recommend Bellagio for the highest quality CG's. Can I get an opinion from everyone on which hotel other than Bellagio they would stay at for the best CG mongering? Trying to save some $$$ and Bellagio is of course an expensive place to stay. I am looking at MGM and Caesar's, and assume I could get takeout from Bellagio back to my room if the price was right.

Thanks.

Bigboi47
07-31-06, 00:01
I'm coming out to Vegas for a weekend in August...first time I've been back out there in 8 years. I've read this forum on a daily basis and I've seen where most people recommend Bellagio for the highest quality CG's. Can I get an opinion from everyone on which hotel other than Bellagio they would stay at for the best CG mongering? Trying to save some $$$ and Bellagio is of course an expensive place to stay. I am looking at MGM and Caesar's, and assume I could get takeout from Bellagio back to my room if the price was right.
Yes you can

DudeX
07-31-06, 00:42
You may have not found a prostitue, but you can't say you didn't get fucked.



This actually occurred in 2002 but I haven’t posted this report yet.

I was in US for 2 weeks on business. This was actually my first time in US and one of my spare time goals was to fuck an American prostitute. I been traveling all around the world I try to be with a local woman every place I go.

Also, having been groomed by my of the excellent American porn movies, I was under the impression that this was a liberal country when it comes to sex and prostitution.

The trip did not start off very well with some bad experiences in LA where I was scammed by women in ads in the LA Xpress so I wasn’t too impressed as I moved on to Las Vegas.

I am not a gambler, I only went since I read there was a lot of prostitutes there.

So I came to Vegas with the belief this was a city of sin and with the goal to pick up a nice looking hooker. I hade read some reports in this forum so I was prepared about where to go. It was a Tuesday and based on me research the MGM grand night club would be the place that where supposed to be most crowded on Tuesdays and the best place place to find a hooker in.

I started off by going to some of the strip clubs such as Spearmint Rhino for a few drinks. I haven’t been much in US but I had seen the strip clubs in LA and was hoping for something better here. How ever, though, it was a nice looking club, none of the girls where allowed to take of their panties. Each drink was also quite expensive and all the waitresses demanded big tips and women constantly kept coming up to try to sell me lap dances for USD 20. I tried one and found it to be quite boring since you are not allowed to touch the girls or anything. (or take the girl out of there)

In general, these strip clubs, are very uptight and was not the kind of place for me so I moved on to the one strip club I read about that both served alcohol and where the women took of all their clothes. (I think it was named Palomino Club ). It was in the outskirts of Las Vegas. This club was a bit more rough but the women working there where all quite ugly. I watched the women and knocked down a couple of more expensive drinks and went back to the Strip.

The Strip, which I had the impression in my mind to be an area packed with small bars and street walkers was more of a polished Disney styled world with spotless sidewalks and very few bars in sight. Its completely dominated by all the huge hotels. Not an easy area to just pop in for a quick beer.

So, disappointed of not having found any nice bar I went to the MGM night club around 12.p.m. to pick up a prostitute. To my amazement, there was a 100 meters long line to get in. Since I hate standing in lines I moved on to checked some of the other Casinos but it appeared that MGM was the place for the night.

But no problem right? I am in the City of sin. Right?

I took a cab and asked him to show me a place where I could fuck a prostitute. A brothel or whatever. He drove me to another area in the outskirts of the city.

“You can do it in there he claimed”

The club was located in a small building and sported a USD 30 entrance fee. I paid up and went in to the small house wandered around in some half empty dark rooms only saw a few women. Finally, I found room which had big screen TV showing pornos. A very good looking blond hostess with large beasts came up to me and asked if she could help me. It started to look quite promising.

I told her I was looking for a girl who can provide me full service. She said she could. I had, just a week earlier been scammed in LA by women from ads who in the end refused to do anything more than strip, so this time I was quite careful.

She offered that for USD 300 we could go into a separate bedroom and she would show me “a great time”

“What services will you provide?” I was trying to get her to be more specific but the only answers I got was. “You will not regret it” or “ we will give each other a great time”

Getting more and more suspious, I repeated my questions about exactly what service she would provide and she was getting more and more irritated with me. (And I with her).

I felt I needed to get her to specify what I would get for my USD 300. I knew, once I paid that money, I would have would have no leverage what so ever and I was beginning to suspect it was more of a lap dance place than a real brothel.
Maybe this has to do with US legalization or something but I never managed to get a straight answer from her so I left the place. Opposite I found a small “grunge-style” bar where I had a beer and contemplated the situation. It was now around 3 a.m. and I was starting to get very disappointed with Las Vegas. This was in no way the sleazy city I had hoped to find.

I took a new cab and asked him if there where and Discos open. He said, to my surprise, that most of the where closed but he took me to one Disco which was still open. This one turned out to be a boring teenage disco without a hooker in sight.

So I went back to the Strip to find that though some Casinos where still open. It was all very quite in the city which I expected to be a 24/7 bonanza in gambling, drinking and hookers.

My last car driver gave me a few leaflets to escort services. Since I tried calling on ads in LA and got scammed, I was very reluctant to try this again. I made a few phone calls. USD 400 to get a lade to my room. It as 5.a.m. in the morning. My flight left at 9. a.m I was tired and irritated and skipped the whole thing.

After that, I went on to New York where it was even more tricky to find a hooker. Basically, I spend a couple of days in LA, one day in Las Vegas and few days in New York. To goal was to score a US hooker but actually failed to find one.

The places I found dealing with hookers and strippers appeared to be very much into releasing you from your money rather than making you feel comfortable.

US left me with the impression that the country, which at least on the surface, is more prude than its image and you need to do a lot of research and probably a big wallet in order to find a good hooker here.

My bad LA encounter can be read about here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=8577&highlight=slacker#post8577

Best Regards,

Slacker

PsyberZombie
07-31-06, 08:41
Did you show her a purple chip? isn't that a bit too much (no the fact of showing it to her, but its value)

The fact that you have a purple chip shows her you have the money to afford her

After that , it's negotiation time

In my experience , the typical Week·end Warrior asks for $$$ , but will accept $$

Danielcazenove
07-31-06, 12:15
It was a Tuesday and based on me research the MGM grand night club would be the place that where supposed to be most crowded on Tuesdays and the best place place to find a hooker in. Are there places that are better than others (for CGs or the SWs who loiter around the big hotels) during the week as opposed to the week-end? I plan on going to Vegas mid-week.

Slacker
07-31-06, 20:29
You may have not found a prostitue, but you can't say you didn't get fucked.Very true. I definitely got very fucked during my stay in US.

/Slacker

Speck
07-31-06, 22:12
Are there places that are better than others (for CGs or the SWs who loiter around the big hotels) during the week as opposed to the week-end? I plan on going to Vegas mid-week.

Just be prepared that it is far more difficult to find a strip cg on weekdays than on weekends. It might be easier to pick up one inside than on the street on weekdays.