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Ralphed
01-07-06, 08:47
Spotted 2 DSWs about 12:30 am Sat. between central & 5th Ave.
They were freezing their coochies off and were real eager for some auto comfort. I passed on both but one was decent looking

Mwminfl2001
01-12-06, 11:40
You would think after 20+ years of mongering I'd be wise beyond my years by now. But, every now and then when the stars line up just right, ol' mini me manages to talk me into a bad situation.

Saw Misty at 34th street and 64th avenue. Very attractive, looked like an early 30's, not aged by the street, very clean and well dressed. She was about 5'7", probably 115 pounds, A cup. Long brown slightly curly hair, pretty face. She had on some nice jeans and a white long sleeve shirt with the shoulders bare and a nice skin tone showing. She has one distinctive identifying feature: her right eyelid has a drop to it and will sometimes almost close when she's talking to you while the left eye stays wide open.

I picked her up and she was very coherent, nice, friendly. Said she was beginning to wonder if she was in the wrong area as no one had picked her up. We did the useless (other than a free grope for me) "cop check" and proceeded to talk business. She initially quoted $150 for FS, I told her no way, not on the street. We eventually settled for $60 (every dollar I had) for FS at her room.

She directed me to the La Mark Charles at 62nd avenue and 34th street where she is staying. When we parked she said "I need the money first" and I said "No way in hell" and proceeded to tell her I've been ripped off before and am not falling for it. I told her I would give her the money when I got in the room. She agreed and we went to Room #130. I usually don't give out specifics on location / room / phone in a public post, but I have no problem burning this one.

Once in the room after I pay her she asks if I have condoms. I said no, I usually do BBBJ and the girls have condoms for FS. I actually usually have one or two but didn't that night. She refused to do anything without a condom, and went on to say she only uses a specific brand and is allergic to latex so they have to be non-lubricated and non-latex. First warning bell went off in my head.

So she rips a part of the plastic trash bag in the room off and says she'll give me a BJ with that. I said no way and she said "Well, go get some condoms at a store." Since I wasn't stupid yet at that point, I told her no way unless she goes with me and she refused. So, trying to salvage the experience, I played the nice guy and agreed.

She pulls a pillowcase off and insists that I sit on that on the bed. She proceeds to give me a decent BJ (all things considered) despite frequent checks to make sure my ass was on the pillowcase. Looking around her room, I got the impression she had some OC issues, dryer sheets in the A/C vent, hand sanitizer everywhere. Whatever.

After about 3 minutes of that she gets up and says she's sick and needs some medicine and can't continue until she gets some. Okay, so she needs to get high first and I was horney enough to put up with it. We argue about and I just give up and agree. After about 20 minutes of trying to get her room phone turned on, walking to a payphone, blah, blah, she finally calls her guy and schedules it. Then she sits on the bed (I'm on the couch) and says "What are you still doing here?" I told her "F*ck you, I'm not leaving until I get off." She tells me to jack off, I tell her not unless she participates and she starts mumbling some crap. A few minutes later there's a knock on her door and she freaks out. Doesn't want me to see her dealer, doesn't want him to see me, etc. so I go in the bathroom and shut the door.

Her and her dealer BS for a while and then he leaves. She comes in the bathroom and tells me she has a date and I have to go. Now, having a few minutes in the bathroom to think, I was royally pissed and pretty worked up by now. I considered my options. There was no way I was going to risk a rape charge and there was some punks hanging around the outside that said "Hi" to her on the way in so I knew there'd be trouble if I tried to bully her. She told me she'd be done in 45 minutes and to come back then.

Yeah, you guessed it, my dumbass drove around for 45 minutes, broke, and came back. She had some guy in her room and they were fully dressed sitting on the couch. I got pissed and decided to use an old scare tactic. I stormed off to my car, opening my cell phone on the way, and sat with the car door open acting like I was talking on the phone, looking around at room numbers. That gets them real nervous and they'll usually cooperate and sure enough she watched me from the window and came flying out of the room. She told me 10 more minutes and said she would call me. I said "How are you going to call me if you don't know my number." She said for me to call her, so once again I agreed.

You know how this ended. She didn't answer the phone or my knocks on the door so I decided to cut my losses. 2 hours of drama, $60 down the tubes, and nothing to show for it.

So fellow mongers, you've been warned. If you pick her up, have an assortment of rubbers, anitbacterial soap, and a hazmat suit so you can whittle through her excuses.

Here's her contact info:

Misty
La Mark Charles Hotel, 62nd ave and 34th st N
Room 130
727-527-7334

Member #4074
01-12-06, 20:31
Mwminfl2001,

Sorry to hear about a bad experience...happens sometimes to the best of us. At least it was only $60 and not $160! If you read my latest Tampa post, I didn't want risking 160 bones for something I was not sure about.

Nothing much to report today either. I saw this one sexy-dressed WSW who walked from 34th street to 22nd Avenue, then to 35th street - I guess she was just making a loop around the Cactus Motel where I think she came from. From the back, she looked yummy, but as I got to see her face, I lost interest. Face was about a 4. She maybe be okay for a night time date, but during the daylight...no thanks!

SgtMajor
01-13-06, 09:52
Despite the understandable temptation, it is a mistake to go to the provider's motel room during the first date because the provider has no fear of being abandoned by you and has little incentive to perform. If you had drove Misty to a far-away location away from 34th street, the unfortunate events you describe would not have transpired. Too bad there is no escrow service for the hobby such as pay-pal so that rip-offs can be avoided.

Gareth
01-20-06, 16:16
Under the right circumstances, these girls are much more vulnerable than we are (assuming they don't have our license plate). Under similar circumstances, I've called either the motel owner and told them their guest was selling/using, or have called the police with a similar (or worse story). If I get ripped off I become obsessed with payback and won't stop until I get it!

Gareth

Rue Kraft
01-20-06, 23:02
Saw Kayla from Eros at her incall location in Clearwater.

Looks better in person than advertised.

Excellent session. Dining at the Y, bbbj, mutliple positions, into it, and very pleasant.

She is a "country" girl. Looks are a solid 9 and for me the overall experience was a 9.9.

Really enjoyed our time together and well worth the 2$.

Member #4074
01-21-06, 12:48
I picked Annie on 35th street north and 3rd avenue yesterday. Good BBBJCIM for $20. She syas that she usually works at night around the parallel streets that run along 34th - 33rd and 35th. Nothing much else to report.

Dragster
01-21-06, 20:36
Squirt rating?


I picked Annie on 35th street north and 3rd avenue yesterday. Good BBBJCIM for $20. She syas that she usually works at night around the parallel streets that run along 34th - 33rd and 35th. Nothing much else to report.

Member #1658
01-24-06, 04:36
I don't know what possessed me to do this because it was a very manual process, but here you go. Some of these are scary!

http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173056
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173103
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173089
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173145
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173153
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172686
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172727
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172722
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172246
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172102
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1171929
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1171607
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1171543

R Consultant
01-24-06, 08:42
Hey guys.

FYI a newer hottie staying at one of the hotels right there between 50-52 ave N. WSW about 25-30 yrs old shes a 7-8 so street scale. She wears a white hat all the time. I donated 20 bucks to the cause. great skills and seems to get into it. Heck there all drama queens, tells me her hubby doesnt like her getting high so she does this on/off. When i was going to office this mornin saw her gain with white hat and white tank top.

Happy Hunting

UranIdiot
01-27-06, 15:54
First, who's been doing the 330 pounder? That's your so-called street walker scale for you.

Second, what makes a prostitution arrest a felony instead of a misdemeanor?

Third, how can I get in touch with that really cute 22 year old? Do you think I can write a letter to her at the address on her booking report?



I don't know what possessed me to do this because it was a very manual process, but here you go. Some of these are scary!

http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173056
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173103
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173089
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173145
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1173153
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172686
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172727
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172722
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172246
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1172102
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1171929
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1171607
http://www.*******.com/Inmate/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1171543

PacoGrande
01-28-06, 11:03
Karie A gave a bogus address. She may be from Spring Hill or Clermont. Wonder when PCSO will snap. Also Clearwater thread calls her Logan.

Member #1658
01-29-06, 00:07
1) Not me. That's for darn sure

2) Third arrest for prostitution is a felony arrest

3) Don't know, but if you find her, let me know!


First, who's been doing the 330 pounder? That's your so-called street walker scale for you.

Second, what makes a prostitution arrest a felony instead of a misdemeanor?

Third, how can I get in touch with that really cute 22 year old? Do you think I can write a letter to her at the address on her booking report?

M Fever
01-30-06, 12:30
Saw Kayla from Eros at her incall location in Clearwater.

Looks better in person than advertised.

Excellent session. Dining at the Y, bbbj, mutliple positions, into it, and very pleasant.

She is a "country" girl. Looks are a solid 9 and for me the overall experience was a 9.9.

Really enjoyed our time together and well worth the 2$.

IS this the Lexxi from the old Lipstixx? If so she is good isn't she? She is thin with the best A/B cups you can find...she has done some porn in the past too. I need to get with her again soon.

PsyberZombie
02-09-06, 09:36
May·be *this* will keep Uncle LEO from shaking down the local SWs for free BJs to go with their do·nuts =

http://www.local6.com/news/6833079/detail.html

Rooster04
02-20-06, 11:38
I have seen Kayla three times. She is down to Earth. One visit found her somewhat pre-occupied with a boyfriend issue and I was not going to lose my wad anytime soon. After 45 minutes she asked me to come back another time and she did not collect anything as I passed go. She is definitely worth $200.00. She's always clean, smells nice. He place is very clean and orderly.

She's many lines away from the SW scale!

Mike Wazowski
02-20-06, 18:46
I have seen Kayla three times. She is down to Earth. One visit found her somewhat pre-occupied with a boyfriend issue and I was not going to lose my wad anytime soon. After 45 minutes she asked me to come back another time and she did not collect anything as I passed go. She is definitely worth $200.00. She's always clean, smells nice. He place is very clean and orderly.

She's many lines away from the SW scale!Knowing Kayla on a personal level, as in, met her through a mutual friend, introduced to her by her real name, Rooster is dead on in his description of her and I can, completely, see her not collecting the money when she wasn't in the mood to go through with the session.

It was bizarre when I met her because, just a few days before, I was comptemplating calling her for a session and ended up getting ahold of someone else first. I did intend to have her on my list of future plans, though. Then, two days later, I found myself being introduced to a girl who looked just like that escort whose pictures had really caught my eye.

I thought it had to be coincidence but she ended up inviting me to her house and some of the pictures on the wall were pictures from her online ads. She, later, told me that she was an escort. I didn't know if it was a feeler on how I felt or not. She was going through the boyfriend troubles at that time and I didn't know if she was just using me as a comfortable person to talk to or if she was looking for someone to have a fling with.

After several hours of talking and the sun on the horizon, I ended up going home since I had decided to let her take the lead. She never invited me to her bedroom but she did, on a few occasions, find the need to flash me some of the usually covered areas on a woman. She let me massage her on the couch, after telling me her back was sore, and let out some very nice sounding moans during that. But, alas, she never invited me to go further.

I've bumped into her a few times, since, and she's always been very friendly but I have no idea if it would be a good idea to actually ask her out on "real" terms.

At the same time, she is drop-dead gorgeous and I'd love to explore her, physically. I know I don't want to be "dating" an escort - not that it would bother me but I have to look at the legal ramifications. LE likes to peg boyfriends if they bust an escort for "living off the means of..." whether the guy is self-supporting or not.

On the other hand, she seemed to make it very clear that casual relations were pay-for-play, only. "Giving it up" was reserved for long-term boyfriends.

Now, my dilema, should I ever call her and make an appointment, asking her if she'd be willing to go through with the appointment when she finds out that it's with someone she knows in "real life"?

It really sucks because she is a, truly, nice person. But, alas, I think I'm going to miss out on experiencing a very beautiful, well reviewed escort because I had to have a chance meeting with her under normal circumstances. I just get the feeling that she would nix the appointment with someone she knew (even though she told me she's an escort) and, at the same time, I'd end up losing her as a friend.

Yeah, I don't think I'll ever get a taste of Kayla. I should go punch my friend in the mouth for introducing us! To top it off, the guy who introduced us has no idea what she does. When we bumped into her, he knew her because she used to shop at his wife's clothing store!

Madra Bid Dog
03-01-06, 18:55
[QUOTE=UranIdiot]First, who's been doing the 330 pounder? That's your so-called street walker scale for you.

Ok some of you fellas have some balls! that 330 pounder would NOT fit in my car. Now you got me curious who was doing THAT one lol.

There are some damn Nightmare scarey zombies on that list

Richie Sambora
03-02-06, 00:55
Kayla Is a nice girl .real nice really really nice,, she is the essence of what all escorts should be ,, ya if it were a perfect world ?

You need to seperate the bullshit !!!.... Monger ? or what ?

There is no way you can get attached to a women who sells herself .

Sooner or later you will end up like they guy she is not with anymore,
if you think you can change that or it will be different , keep telling yourself that .. ??? WHERE'S YOUR HEAD

Reminds me of a call girl i met in Vegas .

The chick was smokin hot older 40 ish at the time ( around 10 years ago ) But smokin hot .

I had a 3 hr date with this tall blonde super nice Flesh kegs , tight tummy long legs and long blonde hair and a pretty barbie looking face. Plastic all the way

Well ,after the first round ,We started to talk .

She is really friendly, she tells me she is single now but she was married 7 times , 7 TIMES ,7 TIMES . holly crap

Now, i do not know about you , But that just leads me to belieive that there are 7 more morons in the world , if you can pay to have her ,why would you loose everything you have after she leaves you ....a 200hr rent a chick .why ?

Do the math ? What it will cost you for a devorce and a marriage

Do you know the women you can buy with that kind of money ?DO YOU ?

Even if you live with her for a while, still cheaper to pay and have it your way , after all this is fast food,, right?

Dude,, if she is crying on your shoulder ,don't walk , run , those are the ones with the MENTAL problems and trust me, you don't get to be my age and be stupid (59)

She is a very nice girl ,fun to have a good time with ..

The point you do this hobby ,Is to either find a regular to go back to ,or to have variety not a wife or girlfriend .

The abreaviation GFE does not entail getting emotionaly attached to them.

Not to deal with the bullshit of a relationship.

You want a relationship ?

YOU WANT A FRIEND ? ....GET A DOG .

like most of the escorts have some kind of animal

you mean , you want drama ?,watch DR PHILL ,, you like drama ..

Just do what i would do , when i saw her ,,i said to myself what a nice girl !

WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE WHORING AROUND FOR ?..SHAKE YOUR HEAD move on and come back another day .

hate to say it ,,once a ho ,,always a ho ..

I know a girl in Sarasota .

She is a sweetie, ((ho )) kinda like Kayla, but older .

I am a regular with her. I see her once a month .

Point is , she sees me once a month , i bang , we shag ,,we sweat we lay and talk ,we swim ,we eat, we drink ,,we laugh ,and we hug ,she goes her way,
i go my way ,, done .. rent a chick,, done.

no diferent than having a full time girlfriend

You just don't put up with the bullshit of the questions and this way you do not have to lie to them and definetly do not have to wory about latching on to you or getting the chick pregnant .

SO WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE ???

you want drama ?watch dr phill ,i says , i says , i says

people have problems ,, don't get sucked in to someone elses ..

Just do her and enjoy the time your with her and leave,,,, you will thank me ..

Do not punch your buddy in the mouth !!..

I am not sure that would be wise , as you may not be a friend , if you would let a women come between you .

That's just stupid , not sure of your age (DON'T REALLY CARE ) but the way you want to start swinging ?

My guess is your between 24 /33 kinda loose cannon emotionaly unstable PERSON "THE ONES THAT DRIVE INSURANCE RATES UP" would act that way ..

good luck to ya
think twice but don't think to much , just call, make the appointment , go there,, bang , leave come back next week... you'll see you'll be a real pro

(Disclaimer >this was in no way meant to be insulting to anyone

That's just the way it is Brother ,,Stay Safe all ....RDD

Mike Wazowski
03-02-06, 14:01
RawDealDude, I don't think you really got the gist of my post. I was just seconding the opinion that Kayla is a pretty cool girl to be around.

You said:

"You need to seperate the bullshit !!!.... Monger ? or what ?

There is no way you can get attached to a women who sells herself ."

I know all this. I was lamenting that I was never going to get to nail her. She made it clear that "giving it away" was for boyfriends, casual was for profit. I don't want to be her boyfriend, she doesn't want me to be casual. Because she knows me on a personal level, I don't think she'd want to give me a paid appointment. That's the type of girl she is.

So, I'm not grousing that I can't get involved with her. A relationship is the LAST thing I want at this point in my life. I'm grousing that I can't pay to play with a smoking hot call girl because she had to get introduced to me in a "real life" situation.

You also, completely misinterpretted my comment about punching my friend in the mouth. You said:

"Do not punch your buddy in the mouth !!..

I am not sure that would be wise , as you may not be a friend , if you would let a women come between you .

That's just stupid , not sure of your age (DON'T REALLY CARE ) but the way you want to start swinging ?

My guess is your between 24 /33 kinda loose cannon emotionaly unstable PERSON "THE ONES THAT DRIVE INSURANCE RATES UP" would act that way .."

Uh, Raw. That was said, tongue in cheek. It was a joke. As in, "I think I'll go punch my friend in the mouth because if it weren't for him seeing a girl who shops at his wife's store and introducing us, I could have paid to play with her but now I can't because she's not going to feel right about doing a paid appointment with someone she, now, considers a friend."

I didn't think I needed the last 48 words in that sentence to convey the joke. I guess I was wrong.

So, I'm a guy well into my forties who has absolutely no intentions of really hitting my friend for screwing up my chances of hooking up with an escort I planned to call. It was just meant to be funny, commenting on the fact that a chance meeting of an escort under "normal" circumstances will usually mean that you're off her potential client list.

Get it? I don't want to do her under "normal" circumstances. I can't get a paid date with her because, now, she considers me a friend. The only reason I know her is a chance meeting with my friend, who knows her through his wife. If it weren't for that chance meeting, I had intentions of calling her for an appointment. Now I can't do her on my terms and won't do her on her terms. If my friend hadn't recognized her as one of his wife's customers, I would have been able to do her under my terms. Hence the joke: "I should go punch my friend in the mouth."

You said:


" good luck to ya
think twice but don't think to much , just call, make the appointment , go there,, bang , leave come back next week... you'll see you'll be a real pro"

Well, if you took the time to actually read my post instead of pretending to see words you wanted to see to fit your comments, you'd realize that the whole point of my post was, "Kayla's a cool girl. Thanks to a chance meeting of her with a guy whose wife runs a store she shops in, her deciding to hang out with me and placing me in 'potential boyfriend' status, I'm never going to get to bang her because I'm not going to be her boyfriend and she's not going to sell it to someone she knows on the outside world."

So, I guess I can't call her and set up an appointment as you suggest, since she's not one to make paid dates with people she already knows.

Did my post on Kayla fly over everyone else's heads, too, or was Raw just not paying attention?

R Consultant
03-02-06, 16:56
I think you might have explained what needs explaining. I do know people that get caught up in the drama with some of these chicks. I always say look at it for what it is. A piece of ass that you drop some change to go away when your done. Simple process and some dam good fun at times.

Thanks for the words of wisdom my friend. I need to swing by sarasota all the laides around here are getting dried up these days.

Richie Sambora
03-03-06, 11:39
I WILL AGREE ........ Oh! way over my head ..

I call ,i bang, i leave

Stay Safe all.............RDD

Mike Wazowski
03-04-06, 05:16
I WILL AGREE ........ Oh! way over my head ..

I call, I bang, I leave.

Stay Safe all.

RDDYeah, pretty much my MO, too, Raw. Unfortunately, one of the best looking/best priced girls (by "escort" standards) got introduced to me before I could make the call and now I'm "real person" to her! LMAO

Just a shame I missed out on that one.

A pretty, physically fit twenty-something at $200 is great.

The crime in this hobby is the flabby, out of shape 40+ women getting away with charging $300, $400 - even over $500 - just because there's a handful of "large canine" types who want to assure themselves that they can afford to pay that much.

Member #1658
04-09-06, 22:56
Well, I really have nothing of value to add today, but I wanted you all to commiserate with me. I went out Sunday from 8am to 1pm and all I saw was a couple of trolls and spotted NGH a couple of times. Sunday morning was a bust and that included the 4th St run, the 34th St run, and the Clearwater run. Bah!

Doinker
04-10-06, 07:40
The couple of days I was in town, saw absolutely nothing on 4th street. Did the loop to 4th from 9th being that was the last location I knew of for stacey/selena, etc. Last time I was in town, there were a few hanging around the intersection of 9th and MLK, this time nothing.

The morning I drove to the airport, saw two WSWs between the bridge and 66th. One was a decent looking brunette just kinda strolling along by the cheap motels just north of the bridge. The 2nd was a tall, skinny woman with long blonde hair. She was walking south by the egg place. Looked to be either strung out or sick.


Sunday morning was a bust and that included the 4th St run, the 34th St run, and the Clearwater run. Bah!

Eye Myt
04-10-06, 12:45
Lots of action on 34th st. at 5th to 13th this morning. The orange tank top is still around. Wonder if shes washed that top since last week?

Also, the cute faced BSW, kind of thick with super huge frontage is smiling her way down 34th. I'm so tempted, but her entourage of gangsta bike/boys is just too much to risk.

Older gal in pink top and jeans, dirty blonde hair and mammoth mammaries was seen jumping in an air conditioners truck at Taco Bell around noon.

I'm not identifying the name on truck, in case its a fellow monger, but, if so, how bout a report.

Member #4074
05-13-06, 18:20
Older gal in pink top and jeans, dirty blonde hair and mammoth mammaries was seen jumping in an air conditioners truck at Taco Bell around noon.

I'm not identifying the name on truck, in case its a fellow monger, but, if so, how bout a report.

Eye Myt - since nobody seems to know, I'll chime in on this big mammary WSW. Her name is Kimi and she stays at the New Plaza Motel (34th st/4th ave N.) with another crackhead WSW. She turns 39 in a few months. She says she usually works the stroll during the early mornings, but sometimes walks during the afternoons. I picked her up yesterday around 3 PM near where you spotted her. I gave her $25 for a decent BBBJCIM. I got to play with those big mammoth mammaries that you wrote about...a little saggy but still good!


Now for this afternoon, I picked up a WSW named Amanda Dell (aka Butterfly)...33-year old crack ho' by the Palm Aire Motel. I saw her about 2 PM today being dropped off at the Hess. I immediately conducted the monger loop-around-the-block maneuver and met her by the motel on 33rd avenue north. Amanda, as ya'll can see in her Florida DOC mugshot, has very short platinum blonde hair - she still sports the same hair style today. Decent body for a 33-year old...she was wearing jean shorts which accentuated her tanned legs with a bright green top. She was very noticable crossing the street today. Anyways, for $30, she provided what I needed. I dropped her off at the trailer park in the Lealman area - 40th street north and 41st avenue.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/InmateReleases/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=838408714

Eye Myt
05-16-06, 16:04
I think Amanda is now a darkhaired girl. Saw a look a like on 34th at 53rd ave with the same spiked hair only deep red or auburn. I circled...she gave me the "look", but a Honda Civic got her first.


Eye Myt - since nobody seems to know, I'll chime in on this big mammary WSW. Her name is Kimi and she stays at the New Plaza Motel (34th st/4th ave N.) with another crackhead WSW. She turns 39 in a few months. She says she usually works the stroll during the early mornings, but sometimes walks during the afternoons. I picked her up yesterday around 3 PM near where you spotted her. I gave her $25 for a decent BBBJCIM. I got to play with those big mammoth mammaries that you wrote about...a little saggy but still good!

Now for this afternoon, I picked up a WSW named Amanda Dell (aka Butterfly)...33-year old crack ho' by the Palm Aire Motel. I saw her about 2 PM today being dropped off at the Hess. I immediately conducted the monger loop-around-the-block maneuver and met her by the motel on 33rd avenue north. Amanda, as ya'll can see in her Florida DOC mugshot, has very short platinum blonde hair - she still sports the same hair style today. Decent body for a 33-year old...she was wearing jean shorts which accentuated her tanned legs with a bright green top. She was very noticable crossing the street today. Anyways, for $30, she provided what I needed. I dropped her off at the trailer park in the Lealman area - 40th street north and 41st avenue.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/InmateReleases/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=838408714

Eye Myt
06-04-06, 09:42
I think Amanda is now a darkhaired girl. Saw a look a like on 34th at 53rd ave with the same spiked hair only deep red or auburn. I circled...she gave me the "look", but a Honda Civic got her first.Amanda, darkhaired, got busted again on Sat!

R Consultant
06-05-06, 07:02
Amanda is walkin off 34st and 54th ave N.. Saw her this mornin.. Shes doin well........

Eye Myt
06-05-06, 08:33
Amanda is walkin off 34st and 54th ave N.. Saw her this mornin.. She's doin well.WOW, she gets out of PCJ at 1:07 this morning and she's on the stroll for the rush hour. Thats dedication!

R Consultant
06-05-06, 23:49
Shes knows how to work.. Also you guys might want to keep an eye out on 35st.. Central/5th Ave N. Supposely theres two really nice black gang bangers that like to run up on you wtih a gun and rob our azzzzesss.. The poor thing did look like she was roughed up. But just becareful as these SW wont call the cops and have these thugs arrested....

Happy Huntin

Member #4074
08-18-06, 17:20
I spotted a raid of some sort at the Enterprise Rental parking lot on 5th avenue south and 34th street. Anybody knew what happened?

R Consultant
08-19-06, 19:37
They have been out in force trying to curve the drugs that get dealt their.The back street 35th is a haven also as we all know. I do notice less drug dealers running around there than usual...

Happy Huntin

Doinker
08-19-06, 21:08
Guess that means all the hos that do the back avenue stroll will be headed for the main drag.



The back street 35th is a haven also as we all know.

Eye Myt
08-21-06, 13:22
Saw a prominent member of the St. Pete Bar pick up a mega booty sista behind the Hess this noontime. He appears on TV occassionally, fighting for the rights of the disadvantaged. I'm sure our LEO friends can figure it out! lol

R Consultant
08-21-06, 18:48
If the local LEO could catch some of the prominent people that support our local ho's it would be a feather in their caps...... I have seen some interesting folks myself pick up ho's. I just chuckle to myself. Then when you see them crusading its almost comical............


Happy Huntin............

Schenectadysam
08-21-06, 18:57
Do you remember a hot WSW named Betty. I'm going back 12 or 14 years ago.

R Consultant
08-21-06, 23:08
I believe your talking about Betty Bowman.. Shes retired living with her mother off 4st. She doesnt really do working stuff anymore as far as I know. But she might for an old regular. PM me if you want more details if thats her.

Happy Huntin........

R Consultant
08-25-06, 20:41
Well Boys Traci Johnson is moving that phat arse up LaMark Charles Hotel.. 34st/62 ave N. She looked hot but completely wasted.. So shes there for the taking if any of you want to try out a safe piece of meat.....


Happy Huntin.........

Horndog Man
09-09-06, 17:14
Finally broke down and Mongered in St. Pete.

Took on the Dynmic Dou of CL fame. 2 women and once. Price was $$$, but the quality was there. J. is small but very very cute and gives good FS and CBJ. If you like them young (of age) and cute, she's definitely for you. L. is older, but cute in MILF way.

They are no BS, no clock watching and lots of fun.

We met at her place- nice, safe are of S. St. Pete. Started off with a massage. Ok, it was CL massage which is weak by any measure.

Then some DATY while the other gave CFS. Then they switched and switched back...you get the picture.

All and all, if you have $$$ and like them young, its worth the service.

Only draw back was no 'girl on girl' action.

Horndog.

R Consultant
09-10-06, 01:10
Hey guys 35st/ 1st ave N -About 5'-100lbs blondish brn WSW not bad at all. Ya shes a C- head.. Not bad FS/40 and it was at her hotel room.. I would say a 6 or 7 on scale of 10..

Shes out alot so it wont be hard to spot her. Just dont take her to the crack dealers house as she does ask. I say NO I dont do the drug run BS. Let her get her happy arse there herself. I say Im drug free and dont need any problems with drugs in my car..

Its amazing how many Ho's ask..... Be safe & smart........


Happy Huntin..........

Eye Myt
09-10-06, 11:24
Hey guys 35st/ 1st ave N -About 5'-100lbs blondish brn WSW not bad at all. Ya shes a C- head.. Not bad FS/40 and it was at her hotel room.. I would say a 6 or 7 on scale of 10..

Shes out alot so it wont be hard to spot her. Just dont take her to the crack dealers house as she does ask. I say NO I dont do the drug run BS. Let her get her happy arse there herself. I say Im drug free and dont need any problems with drugs in my car..

Its amazing how many Ho's ask..... Be safe & smart........


Happy Huntin..........


Rcon, check pcso for mary kramer...fits the description

Hardwood123
09-10-06, 23:55
Can you give me more details of your encounter with Jenny and lilly? BBBJ? DFK? Unrushed? Jenny looks Yummy!

R Consultant
09-11-06, 01:42
Nope that wasnt here.. I wouldn't even dip into that nasty chick.. I have a few morales but not much..


Any one ever hear of Debbie Ohara? Whats her story? Had a buddy partake but shes got a few lines than I like.. It might just be her.. Please let me know if someone has any 411 on her..


Happy Huntin.......

Member #1658
09-12-06, 01:22
On Sunday 9/10/06 I picked up Kathleen near the Hampton Inn on 34th St N. She was about 5'4" 105#, 40ish. Says she's an ex-stripper (from a long time ago I guess). She was nice, and extremely flexible (said she was also a gymnist). Her chest was unattractive (small breasts and a bit wrinkly), but the rest of her was cute including her face. She was easy to look at while we were having fun. Got FS in her place for $50. She is overly cautious about catching something so she's not real keen on giving head at all. She did go down on me for a few seconds but made sure she quit before any precum developed. She may give a CBJ but I think she prefers protected FS.

She prefers to host at her place which is actually a house she's renting by herself. It's cool there. No indication that anyone lives there besides her and the friendly dogs, but she did mention an ex-husband or soon to be ex-husband - I don't think he comes around. My only warning is that you should keep your socks on. I took my socks off and I swear my garage floor has less grit on it. She hasn't mopped in weeks I'm sure.

Anyway, I have digits for known members who PM me. Dummy me - I didn't bother to notice the address when I left because I was in a hurry. No way I could find it again but it was somewhere around 15th Ave N and 43rd St N.

Swmfla
09-13-06, 06:58
Hi guys,

St. Pete seeming to have girls all over the place, I use google earth and based on posted sightings and pick up locations, I put placemarks on the map which resemble push-pins. This is great for seeing patterns and Identifying "strolls". With all the multiple street and avenue names with directional indicators ( north, south, west, east ) it can get confusing at times. This method seems to work well for me who comes from out of town.

Google earth is free and once you get the hang of it, you will see it can be a big help in keeping track of locations. Of course it will also help you with directions to these areas. If your new to mongering in this area or your looking for the shortest route from one stroll to the next, give this a shot.

Member #1658
09-21-06, 02:05
Some of you have expressed confusion about how to figure out where you are or where you're going in St. Pete. It's actually easy once you understand it, so I'm going to take a stab at explaining the system. Look at the attachment, get out a detailed map, and read this e-mail. I think it will clear things up if you’ll take the time to read this and understand it.

St. Pete is a grid with the starting point being Central Avenue and 1st St. Find this on the map. This point is right in the middle of downtown.

When you are NORTH of Central Avenue all Streets and Avenues are labelled NORTH (or NorthEast).

When you are SOUTH of Central Avenue all streets and avenues are labelled SOUTH (or SouthEast).

STREETS run north and south. There is only ONE of each Street. One 66th St and One 34th St. 34th St N and 34th St S is the same street. The N and S label just indicates whether you are North or South of Central Ave at that point on the street.

OPTIONAL READING: The exception is for streets labelled NE and SE. These are the streets that are EAST of 1st St. To avoid confusion most (if not all) of the NE and SE streets are NAMED streets instead of NUMBERED streets. The vast majority of the grid is WEST of 1st Street so you could forget about the NE and SE addresses if that's confusing to you.

AVENUES run east and west. There are TWO of most Avenues. 5th Ave N and 5th Ave S are two different avenues running east/west through town. 5th Ave N is 5 blocks north of Central and 5th Ave S is 5 blocks south of central.

The numbers are sequential from the starting point of the grid. So to recap...

5th Ave N is 5 blocks north of Central
5th Ave S is 5 blocks south of central
54th Ave N is 54 blocks N of Central
54th Ave S is 54 blocks S of Central
9th St (North or South) is 9 blocks WEST of 1st St. If the signs say 9th St N then you are on 9th St and you are NORTH of Central.
66th St (North or South) is 66 blocks WEST of 1st St. If the signs say 66th St S then you are on 66th St and you are SOUTH of Central.
Any Street labelled NE or SE (such as Beach Drive NE) is EAST of 1st St.

NOTE: A few roads such as Haines Road just flat don’t fit in with the system. Haines Road has an excuse – it runs diagonal through the grid.

IF YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT ADDRESSES KEEP READING.

Addresses can be easily pinpointed on the grid and it works beautifully.

Odd numbered addresses are on the NORTH side of Avenues or the EAST side of Streets.
Even numbered addresses are on the SOUTH side of Avenues or the WEST side of Streets.

The address tells you precisely where it is on the grid.

Take 1300 1st Ave N for instance (a place I hope none of you end up). The first two numbers of the address “13” indicate the cross street. The last two numbers “00” indicate where on the block the address is.
This address is NORTH of Central Ave.
This address is on 1st Ave N
13 means that it is between 13th St N and 14th St N
00 tells you two things.
00 is right on the corner of 13th St N and 1st Ave N
00 is an even number therefore it’s on the South side of 1st Ave N.

Let’s do a couple more examples (made up addresses).

3205 34th St N.
This address is NORTH of Central Ave.
This address is on 34th St N
32 means that it is between 32nd Ave N and 33rd Ave N
05 tells you two things.
05 is closer to 32nd Ave N than 33rd Ave N but probably not right on the corner.
05 is an odd number and therefore this address is on the EAST side of 34th St N.

2750 34th St S
This address is SOUTH of Central Ave.
This address is on 34th St S
27 means that it is between 27th Ave S and 28th Ave S
50 tells you two things.
50 is right between 27th Ave S and 28th Ave S (the middle of the block)
50 is an even number and therefore this address is on the WEST side of 34th St S

1990 4th St N
This address is NORTH of Central
This address is on 4th St N
19 means that it is between 19th Ave N and 20th Ave N
90 tells you two things.
90 is closer to 20th Ave N than 19th Ave N
90 is an even number and therefore this address is on the WEST side of 4th St N.


I hope this helps!!!!

R Consultant
09-21-06, 20:03
Dam you give dam good directions....... If you could just make sure theres SW's on each street I would really appreciate it. Plus it would make for a great trip each and every time.......

Happy Huntin.........

Moments
09-26-06, 10:41
She's coming Memphis.

http://memphis.craigslist.org/ers/211612998.html

Member #4074
10-07-06, 10:35
Lots of recent county jail info about our "favorite" girls. I'm glad to pass that Holly Heck is back in the streets! However, her name has been added to Florida's Dept. of Corrections database under the Supervised list - meaning one more arrest and off she goes to prison.

Cum swallower: Big-tittie, Janine Laronge is still in jail. Kimberly Lyles (Cassie) got the cuffs around midnight last night and is in jail as well. Canya (Candy) Conrad is out and about again, and Amanda "Butterfly" Dell is back in jail also.

Lots of "in and out" activity lately. I am wondering how long till Holly gets arrested again?

Nj Pete
10-11-06, 15:11
Lots of Steet action reports but I am curious about finding a bar/club that the ladies hang out in. I am vacationing next month in St Petersburg Beach and would appreciate

Any advise?

Thanks,

Pete

Eye Myt
10-14-06, 10:28
Lots of Steet action reports but I am curious about finding a bar/club that the ladies hang out in. I am vacationing next month in St Petersburg Beach and would appreciate

Any advise?

Thanks,

Pete

Blind Pass Road and Pasadena Ave there is a bar Used to be Gallery Lounge, now Mermaids, I think. Low key bikini bar, but "take out" is certainly available.
Just be patient and willing to buy a few drinks. Blonde gal with plastic tits is usually there days, can't remember her name but is easy to spot. Take your time and you will be rewarded.

Mike Wazowski
10-31-06, 17:48
My senile dad got me a gift subscription to Hustler for my birthday. Wow! Today's Hustler makes the Hustler of my youth (1980s) look pretty damn tame. This new issue has a girl getting DPed in graphic depiction. Full insertion and cum shots are shown in all the couples photo layouts...

Well, anyhow, one of our best priced, best services offered escorts, Crescent is in the issue I got in today's mail. (January 2007 cover date)

When I first met Crescent when she moved to the area, she showed me the book she was working on... Well, it's done and there is a two page excerpt in this month's Hustler along with every picture she's ever used in her eros ads.

That's kind of a bad thing, as I don't think she's very photogenic and some people are bound to be scratching their heads but she is a knock out in person, looks-wise.

Now, what all the other area providers need to take note of: Her book's title is "Confessions of a High Priced Call Girl."

The other girls in the area need to note the "High Priced" part and take it to heart. Crescent's rate is $200 - not the insane $300-$500 I'm seeing girls without her tight body and pretty face trying to fetch.

Richie Sambora
12-02-06, 18:16
wanted HOOTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yeah may or may Not belong here.

I need a woman with large hooters in the clearwater area around HWY60

411 will do me good.

only welll know posters need send me info .... no unknowns

Richie Sambora
12-03-06, 09:53
http://eroticservices.********.com/?do=view&p=45468 pm the detail any one tried her??

UranIdiot
12-05-06, 01:05
wanted HOOTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yeah may or may Not belong here.

I need a woman with large hooters in the clearwater area around HWY60

411 will do me good.

only welll know posters need send me info .... no unknowns

This lady might qualify RDD, even though she's only got medium sized ones. I put her out on the balcony because she tried to smoke in my condo, but it's getting cold and I think it's time to let her back in. You can see she's starting to act goofy.

Mike Wazowski
12-14-06, 13:56
I met a girl who provides but isn't an escort or a street walker. She's one of those under the radar kind of girls. She meets guys in normal fashions - in bars, striking up a conversation while shopping, etc. Once she hits it off with a guy, she let's him know that she's willing to be a fuck buddy but she'll usually need to "borrow" some money for something.

Well, considering that she only asks to "borrow" between fifty and one hundred dollars a pop and she's a 19 year old hottie, I found her to be a nice bargain and have been having her over at least once a week for the past couple of months.

Traveling in the same social circles, I found out that two of my friends have been paying for play with the same girl. We found it kind of funny and laughed about it. The one thing we all agreed on, though, a romp in the sack with this girl was phenomenal.

Well, last night was the last night I'm seeing her and I'm going to alert my buddies on this today... She asked for 150 because she wanted to buy Christmas gifts and be able to afford to go see her family, out of state, for the holidays. This was the first time she asked for anything before hand but she more than made up for it by spending about three hours playing around in my bedroom.

Once we were done, she asked me to make her a sandwich and I headed to the kitchen. While I was making it, she came into the living room, totally dressed. This set off alarm bells and I headed to my bedroom and, sure enough, the other fifty dollars I had in my pants pocket was gone.

We sat and chatted for a while and, finally, I said, "Look, I want you to do one more thing for me. Give me the two twenties and a ten that aren't in my pants pocket any more."

She got all defensive and started showing me what was in her purse and offered to let me strip search her. I told her I was sure she had the money tucked away somewhere and told her to just give it back and we'd forget about it and our relationship could continue. I'd just make damn sure to have every last cent locked in my safe while she's around.

She whipped out her cell phone and started crying to someone that she was being accoused of stealing money and that she needed a ride. She started giving directions and I informed her that anyone who stepped foot on my property would be shot. I told her that now that she had moved on to being a thief I didn't trust her and that if she cared for the life of the person she was calling, she'd not finish telling him where I lived.

With that, she bolted out the door.

I got dressed and took off in my car. I found her walking towards the main road, out of my neighborhood, still crying on the phone, telling what ever guy she was scamming next that she thought she was having a miscarriage. Funny, she was just telling me the horrors of the abortion she went through a couple of weeks ago, that the guy she lives with "forced" her to have.

Oh, well. We all get stung every now and then. It just floors me that a girl will give up all the future money she could have made for fifty dollars, right now. She's the second girl I've had do this after several meetings and building trust. I always put an extra fifty in my pocket in case they ask for an extra twenty, or what ever. That's the pisser. Just ask.

The first to do it was about three or four years ago. She went by Kinky Camille, back then, and is now advertising on Craigslist as Amanda Lee.

Coincidentally, the one that got me last night is also named Amanda.

I've taken some pictures of last nights girl, over the months, and I'm going to try my hand at posting a few so that if any of you run into this hot one, just remember that the service is great and inexpensive - just hide all your other cash when she's around.

What a shame to have to give up on this one.

Richie Sambora
12-14-06, 20:27
Hey Mikey,

What bleeds for 4 to 7 days and lives to tell about it?

I hope you guessed it? A woman.

Mans Ruin. Evil lurkes money is the root. Beware.

Sorry to hear about what happened. You really took a chance taking her to your pad.

Sounds as if you got out of it without to much trouble.

Could have been worse she could have called the cops and said you Raped her, which you may be behind bars right now. Let that be a lesson learned.

Be safe out there.

RDD

Lolitaman
12-14-06, 22:34
Mike,

That's too bad that girl looks like a young Tawny Kitaen. I wish I lived in Fl. I would call her up regardless of that.

Vbgent4u2c
12-15-06, 02:17
C'mon dude.

Is a piece like that worth giving up over 50 bucks?

Also, leaving that extra cash lying around is just asking her to pilfer it.

I think it is easy for us to get lulled into a false sense of security or trust with some of these women that come off as being really sweet, but even though she is under the radar she is doing you for money. If we always keep that in mind I think we will always be better off.

What I would have done is I would not have even mention the missing moola. I would have just deducted it from our next encounter or two. She probably wouldn't have said nothing about you being 25 or 50 light next time.

You could also look at it as if she were a full-time provider she would be charging a lot more, so you have already enjoyed and easy 50 in discounts. I sure wouldn't give her up over this...if you do I think you will be sorry you did.

Lolligagger
12-15-06, 03:28
Mike, so tell me, how many members have clobbered you with PM's for this thief's number?

R Consultant
12-15-06, 09:17
One motta we all have heard is so very true--

If a womans mouth is moving and talking shes lying.

Don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

Happy Huntin

Mike Wazowski
12-15-06, 17:29
Well, to answer some of the questions posted:

Yes, I do think that giving her up over fifty dollars is the right thing. She never had a set price and always fluctuated how much she needed to "borrow" after all was said and done. Sometimes she only needed twenty dollars, usually it was sixty and every now and then she needed 100 for something.

Don't get the wrong impression of this girl. She is not refined or reliable enough to be an escort. She also has no incall that would be available or transportation to do outcall. She needs to be picked up and taken to your place.

She is, very clearly, either a crack head or still just snorting the powder but will not admit to that in front of anyone. She's got it easy in that she lives in an apartment complex that is huge with a mix of lowlifes, low income decent people just trying to have a nice place to live and a few little drug dens that appeal to the "upper crust" who would be afraid to hit a southside crack house for their fix.

When I've picked her up in the earlier hours, I can see the activity taking place and the dealers hovering about with their customers coming and going mix in just fine with the white trash that seem to find the height of social interaction to be standing around outside in their Bucs shirts, swigging beer and talking about the stellar work they've done on their own twenty year old cars.

While the service, once you get her calmed down about whatever drama shes imagining at the moment, is great, it's not like this girl is going to have anything on her mind other than getting back to spend what she's just got from you.

For those asking for digits, I can't give those out. She does not get her guys through any form of advertising and she swears up and down that she never tricks. Remember, she comes over to see guys because she's horny. She just needs to borrow money afterward. She has "every intention of paying it back" once she finally "gets ahead."

I'd suspect if you want to find her, she'll end up at one of the Pinellas County strip clubs that she's not banned from. She has moaned to me about being banned from the property at Atlantis, Oz and Showgirls - fired from them in that order. I'd suspect she'll end up at Diamond Dolls or Baby Dolls sometime soon.

I'm not sure if she picks up on guys she meets while dancing, though. My two friends met her at Mugs and Jugs on 66'th - both at separate times. I met her, of all places, at the Largo Mall Target.

Based on my two friends and me, I'd say she targets guys on the low end of middle-aged - in their forties - that are slightly over-weight but not morbidly obese.

She knows how to target guys, based on her read of them. My one friend is very open about his mongering. He shocks quite a few people when he, openly discusses his views on only paying for it. He, recently, found a normal girl that he really liked and had no idea how to move to the next step from dating. He moaned to his friends and co-workers, "This is where I usually just offer a girl money but I don't want to do that with this one."

In his experiences with Amanda, she actually, outright tells him how much she needs and asks him what he'd want in exchange.

The other guy is a very discrete monger. He never discusses it but he makes his available funds very clear to any woman of questionable reputation he's working on. He's very big on finding girls who want to come over and have him cook dinner and is very happy to help them pay their bills if they appreciate his culinary skills by thanking him with a romp in the sack.

With him, Amanda played the innocent, "I can't believe how you've swept me off my feet" type then needed some money to pay her over-due rent that she was short on.

Me, I'm a very closed monger. I make no mention of it and I take part in it when I don't have someone I'm seeing taking care of my needs. With me, Amanda played the "Little girl lost" who just needs to find a decent man who will take care of her. I guess she thought I was in search of a girl friend because I was always pretty amused by her "romantic" approach to me and all her promises that "once she's ahead" she wants to move in (no way) and be my girlfriend.

So, if you guys can find her remember how she plays. If you outright offer her pay for play, she's going to be offended and tell you that she's not a ***** and never speak to you again. You have to let her take the lead and decide that she is "attracted to you" and wants to have some adult fun with you. Then, afterward, she'll need to borrow money.

It was the same course for my two friends and I in the beginning - low price, 20 - and the figure kept creeping up as she fished to see what the financial threshold was going to be.

She's a very smart one in playing it up and selling the dream. That's why I couldn't believe she'd toss consistant money out the door by stealing money out of my pants pocket.

I do believe she is, clearly, on the verge of moving to walking the streets because she has gotten more skittish over the months. When I first met her, in September, she seemed pretty normal. When I saw her two nights ago, she was, clearly, jonesing for a fix. She's pissed me off by stealing, got one guy to dump her because she started begging for too much money and the other said he had been ignoring her because he likes to call the girl when he wants her and doesn't like to get calls from a girl who is looking to make a buck. He wants it on his time table, not her's.

If she can't maintain her "I really, really like you" act with the guys she's been working, I can see her getting desparate and hitting Clearwater/Largo road sometime soon.

Howyadoin2
01-11-07, 18:30
Can anyone recommend a good 3-4* hotels in the area that are provider friendly, private. Places that are not "family friendly" as they say.

Amperage
03-03-07, 11:03
I have driven by this place for 2 decades. Strip club wih motel attached. Anyone have the 411?

Not What
04-02-07, 23:32
I was just wondering.-- how realistic is it for me, a mid-thirties mom, to generate some business? I have never been a SW or escort but I could always use some extra cash. I posted similar in Tampa board. I am just wondering. If I am sleeping with guys for free. Enjoying it. Enthusiastic. Having NSA fun. Why not start charging for it? But. How?

Bitchslap
04-03-07, 13:47
PM me I'll show ya how. O yea post a pic so we can determine how much you should charge.

Jnsmcd
04-03-07, 21:03
I was just wondering.-- how realistic is it for me, a mid-thirties mom, to generate some business? I have never been a SW or escort but I could always use some extra cash. I posted similar in Tampa board. I am just wondering. If I am sleeping with guys for free. Enjoying it. Enthusiastic. Having NSA fun. Why not start charging for it? But. How?Post a pic or a link to learn more about you. You can hide your face if you want the privacy.

Swlnmmbr
04-04-07, 16:12
Post a pic or a link to learn more about you. You can hide your face if you want the privacy.I'd bet you could make a nice little side business just off of this board. Show us what you look like and watch the offers come in.

Cheesy Rider
04-04-07, 19:15
I was just wondering.-- how realistic is it for me, a mid-thirties mom, to generate some business? I have never been a SW or escort but I could always use some extra cash. I posted similar in Tampa board. I am just wondering. If I am sleeping with guys for free. Enjoying it. Enthusiastic. Having NSA fun. Why not start charging for it? But. How?

Start out offering massages promising nothing more than a happy ending. If all goes well during the session, let it progress from there.

Eye Myt
04-05-07, 13:49
I have driven by this place for 2 decades. Strip club wih motel attached. Anyone have the 411?


Well to go back to the beginning, Tina's was originally The Stock Market Lounge and it was located where Moseleys Motel(400 34th st) is now. The Stock Market moved to its present location sometime in the 80's and the name was changed to "The Executive Lounge" which it remained through the Millenium when the motel and lounge was sold to Blake. Then new owners took over and Tina's evolved. BTW, Tina's sucks! Now in the old days, you could go into the Executive, sit up on the terraced backside and get pretty much whatever you wanted. I remember sitting in there and have a joint being passed from one end of the "pit" to the other, all the while getting a HJ and dipping the finger in at the same time. There was a black chick there named Doris that used to jack 2 guys at the same time. She was insatiable. You could always go in there at closing time and get all the take-out you wanted. They played Happy Trails to you" as the closing song and then it was every man for himself. Oh, the good old days!

Member #4558
04-05-07, 15:55
Well to go back to the beginning, Tina's was originally The Stock Market Lounge and it was located where Moseleys Motel(400 34th st) is now. The Stock Market moved to its present location sometime in the 80's and the name was changed to "The Executive Lounge" which it remained through the Millenium when the motel and lounge was sold to Blake. Then new owners took over and Tina's evolved. BTW, Tina's sucks! Now in the old days, you could go into the Executive, sit up on the terraced backside and get pretty much whatever you wanted. I remember sitting in there and have a joint being passed from one end of the "pit" to the other, all the while getting a HJ and dipping the finger in at the same time. There was a black chick there named Doris that used to jack 2 guys at the same time. She was insatiable. You could always go in there at closing time and get all the take-out you wanted. They played Happy Trails to you" as the closing song and then it was every man for himself. Oh, the good old days!Boy does that bring back the memories! I visited that place back in my younger days too. Reminds me of a couple of other locations you may remember. Can't remember the names, but there were a pair of clubs in two separate buildings on 49th Street just north of 38th Avenue. I think it is a self storage business now but back then, was a pretty wild place. They shower pornos all night. Just topless cluns though. Of course I was in high school when I started going in them. Man do I feel old now!

These was also another club on 49th (I think) up around 78th Avenue. Scored my first dancer take out there. Actually dated her for a bit. Sex was great but she turned out to be a druggie. Big suprise there! There was also a set of twin working there that were just awsome. You use to have to jockey to try and score one of the tables back in the corner where it was nice a dark in order to really have fun. Also say a guy have a heart attack there while getting a dance too!!

JimBrown
04-06-07, 04:10
Driving down 34th about 2:30am, the LaMark was bellowing smoke from the office area. Although I fear that some of our friends were displaced, Perhaps tomorrow will be a good day of hunting. I am sure we all want to help all those displaced SW's make some rent and rock money. Damn, I didnt think so snap a pic.

But not to worry. I have little doubt the Ho-Tell will be up and running in little time.

Eye Myt
04-06-07, 13:04
Boy does that bring back the memories! I visited that place back in my younger days too. Reminds me of a couple of other locations you may remember. Can't remember the names, but there were a pair of clubs in two separate buildings on 49th Street just north of 38th Avenue. I think it is a self storage business now but back then, was a pretty wild place. They shower pornos all night. Just topless cluns though. Of course I was in high school when I started going in them. Man do I feel old now!

These was also another club on 49th (I think) up around 78th Avenue. Scored my first dancer take out there. Actually dated her for a bit. Sex was great but she turned out to be a druggie. Big suprise there! There was also a set of twin working there that were just awsome. You use to have to jockey to try and score one of the tables back in the corner where it was nice a dark in order to really have fun. Also say a guy have a heart attack there while getting a dance too!!


The 2 places on 49th were Inferno in the front and the Arena in the back.Inferno was topless but the real action was in the back building called the Arena. There was an oval stage completely surrounded by a bar. The dancers were right on top of you and the action was fierce.

Another old time place was the "Trap". It was on 66th street near 90th Ave. A place called Secrets is there now. The action at the trap was basically HJ's at the bar. There was a chubby big boobed gal named Cory that used to sit next to you at the bar and if you bought her a drink she would get you off while you sat there.

Member #4558
04-06-07, 15:16
The 2 places on 49th were Inferno in the front and the Arena in the back.Inferno was topless but the real action was in the back building called the Arena. There was an oval stage completely surrounded by a bar. The dancers were right on top of you and the action was fierce.

Another old time place was the "Trap". It was on 66th street near 90th Ave. A place called Secrets is there now. The action at the trap was basically HJ's at the bar. There was a chubby big boobed gal named Cory that used to sit next to you at the bar and if you bought her a drink she would get you off while you sat there.Ah yes,the Inferno and the Arena. I remember one night the girls getting a groom on the stage in the Inferno and striping him nekid for all to see! Those were great places in the days before silicone.

I thought the Trap burned down and it was rebuilt and became Secrets. The Ybor Secrets in Tampa is a pretty lame club. Mostly filled with getto trash and thugs from what I remember. And some of the ugliest dancers that I have ever seen.

Dragster
04-07-07, 15:49
I headed to this side of town way early. At about 8am they all started coming out I went from S to N and back. I tried to get one at the shell on the westside of 34th near 5th but someone in a red dodge beat me to it. (Cock Block) I seen her first! So I cruised another 20 miles back and forth and ran into Sugar 41, latin I think. Nice ass and titties for 41. Got a BBBJWS for .30 and tip. I know kinda high but my balls needed drained. She is also AKA Robin. Attitude was 8, service 7 and unrushed. She was not as skilled as I would have liked but got the job done! I may hunt again, Maybe she can hide my eggs?

R Consultant
04-12-07, 19:00
Hey Dragster-

LaMark Charles Hotel is still good huntin.. Latin aka Robin has been around you will get a younger and hotter up at the hotel. Look for Melissa shes a nice litte piece. Reminds me of the Roxanne C days...

Happy Huntin...........

NcScHotel
04-13-07, 08:04
Does anyone have any experience here? Been looking at the site and thinking of a trip to the greek isles. Please PM as I will be away from PC for a few days and don't want to RTFF to find replies.

Thanks

Dougy Doo
04-15-07, 21:49
I just got back in town from TN, and thought I'd see what was up on 34th. I didn't find anyone around La Mark, but between 5th Ave N. and 1st Ave S. I saw a couple. First I saw was wsw, 5'8 or so, VERY healthy chest, but not fat. As I looked over, she gave me a killer smile. (She almost looked too good to be true.) By the time I got around the block, she was gone.

Next, I saw another wsw, looked to be about 19, huddled behind a building. This time when I got back around, she had her head stuck in some monger's passenger window. Not wanting to just sit around to see what happened, I went around the block again. This time they were gone.

There were a couple of wsw on 35th, but I'm not into such large women. If you are, you might check there behind the Shell.

I went back north and found Megan cute wsw about 19-20, dark hair, small chest. Trying to be easy going, I broke several of the mongers' good sense rules, and the short of it is she stole .3 from me. I know what I did wrong, but she is still the thief!

I went south again and saw a bsw and wsw but passed on them.

Back up north for the last pass, I found Marissa, fairly cute blonde, with natural handfuls of titties. She was very pleasant and easy to get along with. I donated the standard .3 to her college fund and we found a spot for bbbjcim. She is a keeper. I'll be looking for her again. Being new to this reporting angle, I didn't think to ask for digits until it was too late. I told her about Megan and she got really pissed (or at least acted like it). She said that Megan would forget that she had ripped me off, and that whatever happened to her would be what she deserves. I am not a violent person, so I don't guess anything will happen to her. If you run across Megan, you will definitely need to follow the rules. Be careful. If you run across Marissa, enjoy!

Cruise On!

Horndog Man
04-16-07, 21:28
The Horndog cruised 34th street tonight. Saw the usual suspects- 2 BSWs and 2 WSW about 5s on the SW scale between the 5th streets.

Also saw a very cute WSW by the south of 5th S. 9+ on the St Pete SW scale, 12 on the HDWGL SW Scale (Horndog wanna get laid scale). Ample breasts, looked young. Anyone partook of this fine WSW? Is this Marissa?

Dougy Doo
04-16-07, 23:09
The Horndog cruised 34th street tonight. Saw the usual suspects- 2 BSWs and 2 WSW about 5s on the SW scale between the 5th streets.

Also saw a very cute WSW by the south of 5th S. 9+ on the St Pete SW scale, 12 on the HDWGL SW Scale (Horndog wanna get laid scale). Ample breasts, looked young. Anyone partook of this fine WSW? Is this Marissa?When I met Marissa, she was between 30th N. and 38th N. The one you saw may be the other one I lost earlier last night around 9th N. Who knows?

Jethrow1
04-20-07, 16:13
Hey guys,

I need someone to help an out of towner find a descent no tell motel that allows 11:00 am checkins, Maybe even a by the hour if nice enough and safe enough, My girl is in Holiday not sw, so anywhere from holliday south to St,Pete would do. PM me if you can help.

Tjcat2001
04-21-07, 08:22
Boy does that bring back the memories! I visited that place back in my younger days too. Reminds me of a couple of other locations you may remember. Can't remember the names, but there were a pair of clubs in two separate buildings on 49th Street just north of 38th Avenue. I think it is a self storage business now but back then, was a pretty wild place. They shower pornos all night. Just topless cluns though. Of course I was in high school when I started going in them. Man do I feel old now!

These was also another club on 49th (I think) up around 78th Avenue. Scored my first dancer take out there. Actually dated her for a bit. Sex was great but she turned out to be a druggie. Big suprise there! There was also a set of twin working there that were just awsome. You use to have to jockey to try and score one of the tables back in the corner where it was nice a dark in order to really have fun. Also say a guy have a heart attack there while getting a dance too!!You are talking about suggar daddys and I spent a lot of time there back in the days! Best place lately is Atlantis on 66th north of 118th. Find the right girl and get the VIP room for 1/2 hour and you can get what you want!

BananaOil
04-23-07, 20:52
I went and saw Sasha at her 4th Street studio. It was my first time with her and I will definitely go back. Nice and friendly, good looking and very reasonable fee. She advertises in Creative Loafing and I think on Eros.

Mike Wazowski
06-18-07, 05:28
Phoenixxx, who was one of my ATFs, back in her shop days, has responded, in her blog, to some of my comments, here, regarding her blog.

Well, hopefully, she'll see this. Or, at least, the tattle-tale attempting to earn points who pointed my comments out to her before will let her know Mr. Wazowski is making observations about her public statements again.

Honestly, I do find her amusing. She wears her emotions on her sleeve on line and then goes ape-shit if anyone makes a comment that doesn't praise her.

Anyhow, Phoenixxx's blog seems to mention, fairly often, not making money or only making money because of "one person" showing up to see her dance at Oz.

Well, I ask you, would you be interested in going to see a dancer who blogs on about being a witch and making statements to this affect in all seriousness? This is a girl who does incantations and spells to attempt to bring money to her garter at work!

But what's really got me is her most recent post, although it's not the first time she's made such statements. Check out the entry from 6-17-07 at http://phoenixxxblaque.livejournal.com/ .

Okay, so, yeah, Phoenixxx, you're a dancer. Why do you always get bent out of shape when guys ask to see you for off-site extras? Honey, almost every guy you see, who isn't a regular hanger-on of the club, is there hoping that this is "one of those clubs" he's heard all about that are really just a front for prostitution. If you don't know that after all your self-professed worldliness of the adult business industry, you're fooling yourself with your boasts.

Another thing... There are plenty of guys who figure out what the Pinellas side of the bay strip clubs are all about and decide they like that scene. They seem to treat it as most guys would treat going to a normal bar, trying to make friends and meet members of the opposite sex. It just so happens that even the most socially-impaired guy can make conversation and spend time with a cute girl at a bar if it's a bar where he can pay the girl to spend time with him. Well, do you really think that you're going to attract those guys, who are hoping you'll figure out that they'll "take you away from all of this", when they go to your much self-hyped website, click on your blog and read about how in love you are with your boyfriend?

Do you think the guys hoping to find a girl who will "do something extra" will want to spend money "fishing" you when you constantly scream through out cyber-space that "dancers don't do that, they dance"?

Do you honestly think that some guy who, deep down, is aware he doesn't have the looks to hook a hottie is going to want to spend twenty bucks a song on you when you, constantly, state in your blog how you have no attraction to anything beyond physical perfection?

Do you think the guy in his fifties or sixties who has given up on trying to get it up is going to want to watch you dance on his lap when you say that there's not a single woman in the world who wants an old guy because she likes him since no woman in the world likes older guys?

Come on - and this goes for any provider, dancer or whatever woman stumbles across this - you're in the business of selling a dream. A fantasy. If you make so many public claims to your expertise of the business, like Phoenixxx does, don't go making insane statements, on a website you hype the shit out of, that is going to push away most any man who would have spent money on you before he read your high and mighty rants.

Way back when Phoenixxx first posted that she was going to be at ETS, in Drew Park, on the TBD boards, I was jacked. I made a bee-line to the shop, plenty of money in pocket because I wanted to have that girl for so damn long. And I did. Several times, in fact.

Now, I look in the mirror. I know I'm no prize but I do, occasionally, score a semi-hottie on my personality, alone. But I know that, in most times, I'm going to have to pay for it. I accept that.

However, I would not have spent the thousands of dollars I did on Phoenixxx had I known what her thoughts were by hearing them straight from the source. I don't repeat with many girls, in this business, and I've never repeated with anyone anywhere near the amount I repeated with Phoenixxx. I always felt like she thought I was a pretty cool guy and that she enjoyed what we did when we were together.

I enjoyed it so much so, that I probably would have ingnored it if I knew that she thought witches were real, let alone believed that she was one and believed she could cast spells. Although I'd have never made the trip to ETS had I known that up front.

I'd have clamped my wallet closed, immediately, if I knew that she felt my physical form was grotesque, my hair too short and my stamina not up to keeping her happy. I'd have not wasted so much time dining at the Y if I'd known that she mocked over-weight guys, like me, for putting so much effort into their cunnilingual skills to compensate for their lack of coital prowess.

I will say that she put on a good act, back in those days. I know I won't get it up if I'm not attracted to the person or what they are doing to me. Phoenixxx sure did seem to enjoy the licks and the sticks this "too tame" fat guy gave her at ETS and The Legend. I'm within a decade of her age, so I'm hoping I'm, at least, not in her "too damn old" category too.

I know this might read like a rant on Phoenixxx but she's just got the evidence of her opinions posted for all to see. There are way too many providers and dancers that shoot themselves in the foot by not realizing what we DON'T want to hear.

Don't tell us we're not your type. Don't tell us you have a boyfriend that you love beyond belief. Give us the damn fantasy we're paying to experience or don't go complaining about your lack of business in the same breath that crushed our image of you and made us decide we didn't want to spend our money on someone who said she didn't like us.

Member #4558
06-18-07, 13:06
Like you, I don't see why she is getting so bitchy about guys asking for off site fun. Now here is an individual who is, or was, always adding posts to the various web sites that most of us have visited at one time or another. She is always posting the "come and see me" messages and I can see where someone might take that type of posting the wrong way.

As for not caring for us older gentlemen who happen to carry a few extra pounds now, that is fine. I myself do not really care for her physical appearance so I guess we will call that one even. To each his own.

And some dancers do more than dance but I think that you and I both know that. I can only wonder why she thinks that they don't.

Bottom line, let her have her rants and great boyfriend (next month it will be someone new anyway). If we are not careful, she will cast a spell on us and you may grow a third eye and my unit may fall off! Worse still, she may show up here and begin to post using that strange and punctuation free style of hers. Last thing we need here is a bitchy woman posting in anger!

The Chronic
06-18-07, 21:26
Phoenix is now old, an almost has-been. Her anger is showing through. She is becoming what she hates: another woman who aged, and can't become young again.

I saw her in 2001 a couple of times at ATS. Doing the "houses" isn't my thing, but after her bazillion TBD posts, I finally decided to check her out. I emailed her, and set a date one Sunday morning. I was the only one in the shop except for some sleepyheads.

Honestly, she was excellent. Sucked my dick deep, and didn't flinch when I blasted deep into her throat. Cleaned me up, then I ate that sweet, pretty pussy until it was dripping, and her eyes were rolling back. She laid me down, and did this reverse backbend thing to fininsh my meal. Yummy. Then I grabbed her ass and just drilled it, ripping the cover off at the last moment, and gushed again into her gullet. Man! Awesome.

Yep, Phoenixxxxxxxxxx, you used to be hot. I'm not a fat guy, but it wouldn't have mattered: you were a great actress, and my dick was eternally grateful.

Good luck with the loser BF's who will eventually dump you for some young pussy without an attitude.

10 years from now you'll wish you could make a living again, and guys who woulda beed a regular will have moved on to a different twat.

Phoenixxxxxxxxx, you are sooooooooooo yesterday's news.

R Consultant
06-20-07, 08:02
I used to know a few ladies when it was temptations and it was alot easier, but now as atlantis its hit or miss. I have had incredible results at Secrets the old trap lounge. Its just the girl and her needs at the time. If these ladies have a good week then they will be hard to get. Otherwise its YMMV..

Happy Huntin......

Member #1658
06-27-07, 09:14
Last night (Late Tuesday, early Wed am) seemed to be crawling with SWs in St. Pete. I saw two around LaMark, one around Cactus, two around Economy, two more around 1st Ave S and 34th, and 1 more down by Sundaze.

So, that brings the question part:

Is there a reason that they all seem to come out on the same night or is it just happenstance? I'm curious if they know something about lack of LEO activitiy on certain nights? It is my understanding that SPPD has a "weekend" for their officers on two days during the week that they deem to be low call volume days. On those days, I understand that there is reduced patrol in order to give most of their officers a break. I don't know which two days it is, but maybe Tuesday/Wednesday is the day. And maybe someone told me a wives tale and this "weekend" doesn't exist at all.

Anybody know the answer here?

Member #4284
06-27-07, 09:59
With respect I must disagree with Member 1658. I have enjoyed his posts, and will continue to do so and maybe my observation is different. I was out last night as well just before and just after midnight. While I noticed some streetwalkers I also noticed lots of law enforcement. They seemed to be targeting the areas mentioned on this board. Rolling up 35th st at both 5th Ave and 30th Ave, parked in alleyways, etc. I have heard that Tuesday and Thursday are known as vice night. Since I heard this from SWs I never paid too much attention and try to remain vigilant on all nights, but I did notice a heavy presence last night. So much so I headed home.

Member #4558
06-27-07, 13:06
There is always a Strong LE presence downtown when there is a baseball game. True this is for traffic control and they are all "off duty" when they work these games, but there are still a bunch of visible cop cars in and around the stadium area. There is probably a stronger patrol presence as well in the area to make sure the baseball fans are not robbed or otherwise bothered after the games.

SteelThunder
06-27-07, 21:16
I don't know how much of the presence on 34th is due to baseball. Aren't there only about 87 people at the games anyway? On a serious note, though, the bottom line is that they change up their activity just like the SW do. I've always likened the quest for the girls to fishing because you can go out the same time of day, the same day of the week from one week to the next and have completely different, often frustrating results. The best approach is to stay inactive when uncle is active. As many others have repeated throughout the board. Its better to be overly safe than to get caught up in a moment that leads to a bad bologna sandwich at the 49th street bed, bond and breakfast. Oh yeah--and one more fishing thought--always watch out for bad snapper.

Member #1658
06-28-07, 00:39
Maybe I just lucked out and never crossed their paths last night. I'm not saying I didn't see a police car. I just didn't see anywhere near as many as usual and I saw a lot more SWs than usual. Maybe it was just my lucky night :)



With respect I must disagree with Member 1658. I have enjoyed his posts, and will continue to do so and maybe my observation is different. I was out last night as well just before and just after midnight. While I noticed some streetwalkers I also noticed lots of law enforcement. They seemed to be targeting the areas mentioned on this board. Rolling up 35th st at both 5th Ave and 30th Ave, parked in alleyways, etc. I have heard that Tuesday and Thursday are known as vice night. Since I heard this from SWs I never paid too much attention and try to remain vigilant on all nights, but I did notice a heavy presence last night. So much so I headed home.

R Consultant
06-28-07, 09:49
If you see a cop stay out of the area.. They have plenty of undercover also. I saw the other day a so called SW at budget hotel and before you know it cops marked and unmarked where on this guy. I have no clue where the cops came from it was unbelievable. I still was shocked how many and how fast. I thought I would have seen at least one of them and they shot right in front of me to get the guy.

So when you see them or looks to good to be true stay away. We all know theres always another day.

Happy Hunting

Knight Cock
07-15-07, 03:28
I'm a dream I had today. I walked into my bedroom and there were 50 roses on my bed along with a hot retired gfe. Fs and then some. It was an amazing dream where everyone got off and had a good time. Looking forward to that dream again.

Member #4284
07-23-07, 15:26
Please forgive me everyone, but I wanted to vent on a completely off topic matter for a moment. I saw no where else to put this post and wanted St. Pete to hear this. I wish the ref in the Wright v. Hopkins fight was my dad growing up. The whole fight he said if you do this one more time I'm going to take a point. But he never did! My dad would have cracked me across the back of the head in the third round. He should have too cause then maybe there would have been an actual fight. I would like to see a sports forum started where we could talk shit and discuss sports. Maybe that's just me. Well I feel better. Have a great week all.

Jetdog
07-23-07, 17:05
We just hired a cleaning company to come to my house for biweekly cleanings. I came home from work early to find 2 very cute girls. They were extremely flirtatious and I was hoping to something extra. Has anyone ever heard of this deal.. I was sure something would happen but nothing but just a good show. PM me for details of the company, I am not saying this is a company that provides more than cleaning but it seemed like it.

Member #1658
08-24-07, 01:03
So, who's going up to Lowell to pick up our girl Holly Heck when she gets out next month?

How does that work anyway? Will Corrections bring her back to Pinellas County since that's where she came from, or do they dump her at the gate?

R Consultant
08-24-07, 09:04
Someone will have to get her. I can bet money her stalker boyfriend will go get her. That poor dude sold stuff out of his apt so she could smoke crack. I have met him and hes a fruit loop to the 10th power. He obsessed with her. I know he even gets a room and sits outside why the johns screw her because he ran out of money for her. Its a sad situation. But good thing is if he still lives where he used to she will be located in st pete and Im sure she will be back at the hotel in no time.

If he doesnt lets car pool... LOL!

Happy Hunting.......


So, who's going up to Lowell to pick up our girl Holly Heck when she gets out next month?

How does that work anyway? Will Corrections bring her back to Pinellas County since that's where she came from, or do they dump her at the gate?

R Consultant
08-24-07, 09:07
If you read a few of the papers there are cleaning companies and even dog walking services that offer the better the tip the better the show meaning they are available to talk, if you read between the lines. So with that in mind - its your call..

Happy Hunting


We just hired a cleaning company to come to my house for biweekly cleanings. I came home from work early to find 2 very cute girls. They were extremely flirtatious and I was hoping to something extra. Has anyone ever heard of this deal.. I was sure something would happen but nothing but just a good show. PM me for details of the company, I am not saying this is a company that provides more than cleaning but it seemed like it.

Fight Girl
09-20-07, 08:12
I know this is my first post, but I came across this website looking for Holly. I actually grew up with her. Known her since we were about 14ish. I saw in the FDOC website that her registered address is in Hudson for those of you who were inquiring. Wow. They update fast. I just went to find the link, and it says her probation is out of Clearwater. No current address posted now. I googled it lastnight and it's WAY out in the middle of nowhere.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=169756583


Someone will have to get her. I can bet money her stalker boyfriend will go get her. That poor dude sold stuff out of his apt so she could smoke crack. I have met him and hes a fruit loop to the 10th power. He obsessed with her. I know he even gets a room and sits outside why the johns screw her because he ran out of money for her. Its a sad situation. But good thing is if he still lives where he used to she will be located in st pete and Im sure she will be back at the hotel in no time.

If he doesnt lets car pool... LOL!

Happy Hunting.......

R Consultant
09-20-07, 14:13
Arent you a lucky lady to grow up with a goddess........WooT!!!!!!!!!!!![



QUOTE=Fight Girl]I know this is my first post, but I came across this website looking for Holly. I actually grew up with her. Known her since we were about 14ish. I saw in the FDOC website that her registered address is in Hudson for those of you who were inquiring. Wow. They update fast. I just went to find the link, and it says her probation is out of Clearwater. No current address posted now. I googled it lastnight and it's WAY out in the middle of nowhere.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=169756583[/QUOTE]

Eye Myt
09-20-07, 14:32
She looks clear-eyed and sober in that photo. It will be interesting to see how long that lasts. The last time I saw her she was laying in the dirt behind the Aamco at 34th and 1st ave so

Fight Girl
09-20-07, 23:14
If anyone could PM me and let me know any info in her. I haven't seen her in over 10 years, and I'd like to know what's going on with her these days. Pretty surprised she's doing this, but to each his own. If you ask her about me, I'm sure she'll remember me. We were inseparable. Even got arrested as juveniles together. hahaha. I'm a little skeptic about giving my contact info to anyone to pass to her, but I'd really like to talk to her if at all poss.

Eye Myt
09-21-07, 06:52
If anyone could PM me and let me know any info in her. I haven't seen her in over 10 years, and I'd like to know what's going on with her these days. Pretty surprised she's doing this, but to each his own. If you ask her about me, I'm sure she'll remember me. We were inseparable. Even got arrested as juveniles together. hahaha. I'm a little skeptic about giving my contact info to anyone to pass to her, but I'd really like to talk to her if at all poss.

Go to the Clwtr probation office and tell them your story."If" they believe you, maybe they will put you in contact with her, or , at least, let her know you are looking for her.

Fight Girl
09-21-07, 07:23
Thanks :) I'll do that in the coming week.

R Consultant
09-21-07, 13:28
I wonder if we could get step by step and turn by turn directions to the PO office. I bet they would even be real happy to help a person out. Customer service is always a priority with any business........


Go to the Clwtr probation office and tell them your story."If" they believe you, maybe they will put you in contact with her, or , at least, let her know you are looking for her.

Red Gates
09-22-07, 10:03
I wonder if we could get step by step and turn by turn directions to the PO office. I bet they would even be real happy to help a person out. Customer service is always a priority with any business........Yeah, nothing like starting off the day with a good ol' cavity search.

Stpeteguy
01-08-08, 18:11
So sorry that happened to you Lissa. Hope you can iron things out. You have my best wishes for the future. I'll miss you.


Thanks to those who helped! Please no more emails, IM's PM's, or calls!

Red Gates
01-09-08, 10:40
Thanks to those who helped! Please no more emails, IM's PM's, or calls!So long Lissa, good luck to ya.

Ace

Norqueen
01-09-08, 12:17
Sorry about the incident Lissa, I hope you can work this out at home, best of luck to you and thanks for everything!

SirLickaLot
01-09-08, 15:31
Hope everything works out.


Thanks to those who helped! Please no more emails, IM's PM's, or calls!

Bitchslap
01-09-08, 15:32
Sorry about the incident Lissa, I hope you can work this out at home, best of luck to you and thanks for everything!O come on what did I miss!

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was orginally written in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING and thus it was edited it to normal case lettering. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks!

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Hi ,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS!

It's difficult to read and it's time consuming to fix.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

R Consultant
01-09-08, 19:06
Well Im sorry to hear about this one. You could tell him you just need a webcam and make money from the house. Tell him you have fans and fans that just adore you. He can't get mad about looking just no touching.

Just an idea of course.


Thanks to those who helped! Please no more emails, IM's PM's, or calls!

Hairball
01-10-08, 09:22
Thanks to those who helped! Please no more emails, IM's PM's, or calls!

Damn I procrastinated too long! This feels like a death in the family when we lose a quality provider like her and can only hope the tide turns some where down the road for her return. HB

Eye Myt
01-10-08, 13:43
Take the Requiems to private please. Lets get back to why we're here!

BladeRunner007
01-11-08, 09:54
That I was reminded of.

"What are you doing here?": man asks wife at brothel

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080109/lf_nm_life/poland_brothel_dc_1

Retired Gfe
01-14-08, 18:52
I just need to lay low for a bit! Please understand! It will be a few weeks! Lissa

Damn I procrastinated too long! This feels like a death in the family when we lose a quality provider like her and can only hope the tide turns some where down the road for her return. HB

Eye Myt
01-17-08, 09:44
I just need to lay low for a bit! Please understand! It will be a few weeks! Lissa

I can think of a lot of folks that came out of retirement, Deon Sanders, Joe Gibbs, Michael Jordan, Bill Parcells(several times). They were never the same. Besides, you'll need to change your username to "RetiredagainandagainGFE"

R Consultant
01-17-08, 13:30
Lets not forget Floyd Mayweather to shut Hatton up--hopefully she bangs us up a little also. Ya thats what we need.


I can think of a lot of folks that came out of retirement, Deon Sanders, Joe Gibbs, Michael Jordan, Bill Parcells(several times). They were never the same. Besides, you'll need to change your username to "RetiredagainandagainGFE"

Old Player Man
01-18-08, 02:26
So Lissa is back. I am not surprised. This whole "I am, I'm not, I am, I'm not, I am" thing sounds like the same stories we hear from many of the ladies.

OPM


I just need to lay low for a bit! Please understand! It will be a few weeks! Lissa

NobodyYouKnow
01-18-08, 19:54
So Lissa is back. I am not surprised. This whole "I am, I'm not, I am, I'm not, I am" thing sounds like the same stories we hear from many of the ladies. Or "I don't do this very often" or "I've never done this before."

:rolleyes:

Jethrow1
01-19-08, 09:41
You think about how hard we have to work to keep what we do private from the wife, bosses and friends. Sometimes all it takes is a little slip of the tongue.

It must really be tough for a married provider.

I'll wait patiently Lissa

Jethrow

Old Player Man
01-20-08, 00:04
I am not one to judge. I just have heard this sort of story before. You go Lissa! Best of Luck.

OPM


You think about how hard we have to work to keep what we do private from the wife, bosses and friends. Sometimes all it takes is a little slip of the tongue.

It must really be tough for a married provider.

I'll wait patiently Lissa

Jethrow

Red Gates
01-22-08, 12:41
Or "I don't do this very often" or "I've never done this before.":rolleyes:Or "I'm new to the business". Let's not forget, "I need to raise funds for classes, rent, utility bills, get my dog/cat fixed, I need airfare, a laptop, etc..." All pleas recently seen on various boards.

We all have fiscal responsibilities. The hobbyist/provider relationship is based on a certain amount of deception/discretion anyway, so the additional drama is unwarranted. The only drama we seek is, "who's your bad girl, Daddy?!", right?
I still wish Lissa the best of luck.

Member #4074
02-08-08, 22:33
At about 3:30 PM, I spotted a black Ford Bronco with limo tint driving around the area around the Palm Aire and the Big Lots parking lot. I thought that it was a monger getting some street head because I also saw a blonde in the passenger seat.

They finally parked at the alleyway beside the Palm Aire and the pretty bonde came out and stood a few feet from the Bronco. She was obviously "working". She was a pretty blonde dressed to look like the typical WSW in our locale. However, her face was too clean - cops can put decoys in the street, but they can't "put the street in their decoys" no matter how much they try.

Besides standing pretty much a few feet from the Bronco, I also spotted this van at the Hess parking lot with another direct line of sight of both the decoy and the Bronco. There were no takers that I can see, so they disappeared until about 7 PM where I then spotted her at the Big Lots parking lot. That's when I took these pictures.

Their take-down vehicles were an unmarked Crown Vic and that white Pontiac. I did not see the black Bronco on their second try at the Big Lots parking lot. They terminated the sting at 7:30 PM.

I can just imagine what their shift Sargeant or LT will say once they read my report - their undercover sting op has been surveilled by a monger! (LOL)

Situational awareness everyone! Control your mongering environment.

Old Player Man
02-08-08, 22:40
You are the master! We can all inspire to have your street smarts.


At about 3:30 PM, I spotted is black Ford Bronco with limo tint driving around the area around the Palm Aire and the Big Lots parking lot. I thought that it was a monger getting some street head because I also saw a blonde in the passenger seat.

I finally parked at the alleyway beside the Palm Aire and a pretty bonde came out and stood a few feet from the Bronco. She was a pretty blonde dressed to look like the typical WSW in our locale. However, her face was too clean - cops can put decoys in the street, but they can't "put the street in their decoys" no matter how much they try.

Besides standing pretty much a few feet from the Bronco, I also spotted this van at the Hess parking lot with another direct line of sight of both the decoy and the Bronco. There were no takers that I can see, so they disappeared until about 7 PM where I then spotted her at the Big Lots parking lot. That's when I took these pictures.

Their take-down vehicles were an unmarked Crown Vic and that white Pontiac. I did not see the black Bronco on their second try at the Big Lots parking lot. They terminated the sting at 7:30 PM.

I can just imagine what their shift Sargeant or LT will say once they read my report - their undercover sting op has been surveilled by a monger! (LOL)

Situational awareness everyone! Control your mongering environment.

R Consultant
02-08-08, 23:10
I think this goes to say once again the resilience that we each show to have each others back in this messed up world. I know this hobby has issues and you can never be to careful. HoC thank you so much you are just on top of your game.

I believe that I can control my own environment with due diligence and some serious precautions and reconning the parameter of the target Im searching for. HoC said something a long time ago that I have never forgotten. You will always have another day so if its not right keep moving.

I'm willing to bet they targeted a few areas just not that one area. If it didn't work there it will somewhere else.

Happy Hunting



At about 3:30 PM, I spotted is black Ford Bronco with limo tint driving around the area around the Palm Aire and the Big Lots parking lot. I thought that it was a monger getting some street head because I also saw a blonde in the passenger seat.

They finally parked at the alleyway beside the Palm Aire and the pretty bonde came out and stood a few feet from the Bronco. She was obviously "working". She was a pretty blonde dressed to look like the typical WSW in our locale. However, her face was too clean - cops can put decoys in the street, but they can't "put the street in their decoys" no matter how much they try.

Besides standing pretty much a few feet from the Bronco, I also spotted this van at the Hess parking lot with another direct line of sight of both the decoy and the Bronco. There were no takers that I can see, so they disappeared until about 7 PM where I then spotted her at the Big Lots parking lot. That's when I took these pictures.

Their take-down vehicles were an unmarked Crown Vic and that white Pontiac. I did not see the black Bronco on their second try at the Big Lots parking lot. They terminated the sting at 7:30 PM.

I can just imagine what their shift Sargeant or LT will say once they read my report - their undercover sting op has been surveilled by a monger! (LOL)

Situational awareness everyone! Control your mongering environment.

Eye Myt
02-09-08, 08:33
I checked PCSO report and found no monger/prostitution arrests..Thanks HOch. Bad news, Dawn Kmak(Blondie) got popped again. I think it" because she hitchhikes and does no Leo checks at all. The first time I ever picked her up, she just jumped in and said"are you as horny as I am?" Plus, she is well know, so if things are dull for Leo, she is easy target.

Ajdal
02-09-08, 10:37
Amazing.

Thank you from all of us.

Milfman
02-09-08, 20:40
Damn HoC good Job.

Guess that makes you resident "Private Dick" for us lol :)

Thanks dude for the info you rock.

Dragster
02-10-08, 20:27
At about 3:30 PM, I spotted a black Ford Bronco with limo tint driving around the area around the Palm Aire and the Big Lots parking lot. I thought that it was a monger getting some street head because I also saw a blonde in the passenger seat.

They finally parked at the alleyway beside the Palm Aire and the pretty bonde came out and stood a few feet from the Bronco. She was obviously "working". She was a pretty blonde dressed to look like the typical WSW in our locale. However, her face was too clean - cops can put decoys in the street, but they can't "put the street in their decoys" no matter how much they try.

Besides standing pretty much a few feet from the Bronco, I also spotted this van at the Hess parking lot with another direct line of sight of both the decoy and the Bronco. There were no takers that I can see, so they disappeared until about 7 PM where I then spotted her at the Big Lots parking lot. That's when I took these pictures.

Their take-down vehicles were an unmarked Crown Vic and that white Pontiac. I did not see the black Bronco on their second try at the Big Lots parking lot. They terminated the sting at 7:30 PM.

I can just imagine what their shift Sargeant or LT will say once they read my report - their undercover sting op has been surveilled by a monger! (LOL)

Situational awareness everyone! Control your mongering environment.




Great job Ho, You da man!

Dougy Doo
02-10-08, 21:17
I met a sw today around the Hess. She told me that she is being very careful these days. According to her, today alone, she saw 3 white unmarked Crown Vic's and 4 of the new "undercover" black pick up trucks cruising the area. She laughed and said the officers driving them were dressed like SWAT team members.

She said that they had tried to hook her up one day this week, but apparently, the UC officer was overly zealous. They had her cuffed and were threatening to take her to jail, claiming to have the solicitation on tape. Once they checked everything out, the officer had been the one doing all the talking, so they released her. If you can believe what she said. Who knows?

Just in case, I'll forego the usual info on my time spent with her.

Take care.

DD

P5040
02-11-08, 20:07
May I also chime in my thanks and applause for Ho's report.

This is my main area of mongering (Hess, Palm Aire, Tina's, etc)

HoChaser reminds us all to be very aware of our surroundings and take a look around before the scoop.

Thank you Sir

Bitchslap
02-12-08, 08:59
I vote for post of the year on HoC's resume!

Now I will start doing recon on the ho patrols as this gives new fun to mongering!

NobodyYouKnow
02-14-08, 13:10
I can just imagine what their shift Sargeant or LT will say once they read my report - their undercover sting op has been surveilled by a monger! (LOL)

Situational awareness everyone! Control your mongering environment.Ah, now if someone had a big swinging pair of balls, they might employ some caltrops ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrop ). Then the shift SGT or LT would really have gone ballistic.

:D

R Consultant
02-16-08, 12:16
I know this was brought up before but now since we dont know if the cameras here are monitored 24/7 its something thing that should be on your mind at all times. The cameras around St Pete have been there for awhile now.This was posted on another page and I brought it here.

Happy Hunting


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/10/AR2008021002726.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Bitchslap
02-17-08, 07:37
I can tell you all this and take this as serious as you would your mothers eyes.

Highways and All traffic cameras operated by the Florida Dot and or pinellas county are not and i repeat are not recorded or have the capability of being recorded.

I work for some high profile people and have first hand observed the camera wall that is maintained by Pinellas County that you see at intersections and on us 19 etc.

They do not record these due to one compression is not as of yet conducive to being stored and two the liability issues that go along with the camera recording are too extreme to be called viable.

I will swear on my mothers eyes to this being true.

But...

I cannot vouch for any private sourced cameras from local police etc as I have knowledge of only highway mounted type cameras and on the interstates.

Old Player Man
02-19-08, 20:46
Thanks for the insight Bitchslap. I hope that's all they are doing -- helping with traffic flow / control.

Member #4284
04-01-08, 10:54
Hey all, it has been quite a while since I have posted so this will be full of observations, information and tips. And what an appropriate day for me to post as the buccos beat the Braves last night in 12 innings of Pirate baseball. Translation: We scored some cheap runs and barely hung on to a lead.

Tip one: Anyone who is a baseball fan and has Brighthouse can catch most of the games right now up near channel 545. They are offerring a free preview of their baseball package.

Tip two: Those cute valentine day coupons good for like a free massage and such are NOT redeemable at any time no matter what the coupon says.

Observation one: A woman will expend ALL of her energy going to a nice restaurant and drinks leaving absolutely no energy left for afterhours activities. And they think you horrible for even trying. "I just ate too much" Well.... I'm not asking you to run around and as you always point out it's not that long.....anyway. I digress.

Observation two: The sarah mentioned on this board has lost a LOT of weight and has gone a little downhill.

I have been checking the board and making futile attempts of late to venture out with little success. Some members of the board have been helpful via backchannel in the past which I appreciate.

Complaint: I am a little disappointed in this board. I have read all of the drama and arguments on the Tampa Board but there is nothing like that here. They even threw a guy out a while back. Where is St. Pete's drama? Let me try and start a drama here based on my observations. I have to say that the posts by R Consultant and Ho Chaser are so good they make me feel inadequate. Who is with me on this? Anyone? Oh well. That's all I got.

I'll ease my way back into things but I just wanted to check in and say hello.

Bo Buccos!

Jethrow1
04-01-08, 13:00
Perhaps R Consultant and Ho Chaser will take you along for a ride sometime.

Hands on is the best way to learn. (hands on the girls only)

Member #4284
04-02-08, 10:54
That would be interesting. I've always wondered if the girls treat those two like Norm coming in to cheers! In the overadundance of caution I will publicly say to both Ho Chaser and R Consultant that I am kidding and the portions of my posts directed at them were meant in good fun. If anyone took me seriously please see the desk sargeant about reassignment.

R Consultant
04-02-08, 18:10
Piratefan, you need to get out more and see the sights. Hop on board and I will take you on a city stroll. You will have a blast.

Happy Hunting..


That would be interesting. I've always wondered if the girls treat those two like Norm coming in to cheers! In the overadundance of caution I will publicly say to both Ho Chaser and R Consultant that I am kidding and the portions of my posts directed at them were meant in good fun. If anyone took me seriously please see the desk sargeant about reassignment.

Member #4284
04-03-08, 10:45
That sounds like a blast R Consulatant. Just wait till the free baseball package ends or the Pirates are mathematically eliminated. Just a matter of days judging from last night. If you pick up a bunch do I have to get in the trunk?

NobodyYouKnow
04-04-08, 17:53
I have to say that the posts by R Consultant and Ho Chaser are so good they make me feel inadequate.

Bo Buccos!I'll back you up on that. RC and HC (brothers by different mothers?) have exploits we only dream of.

But then again, I'm a happy camper 'cause the Pens are doing well, and the NHL East still isn't settled with three days left in the regular season. Woohoo!

R Consultant
04-04-08, 19:05
For the record guys- HoC is more like a big brother to me. He leads me in the right direction over and over so I can make my own path. Now we all can share in the wealth of pure-pink if we can just corral them ladies up.

Just a footnote I saw a WSW around 4st-5th Ave N this morning with long black straight hair with a redish tint. I would say like 5'7 130lbs in her 20's. Hot as all get up and no it wasnt olive oil. She could never look this good. She had black sweats pants on and a white shirt. Anyway I didnt see who picked her up but the fact that she got picked up means theres a good chance shes FRESH FISH in the sea.

So any of you backsliders know who she is give us a 411 on her. I cant place her face anywhere.

Happy Hunting..


I'll back you up on that. RC and HC (brothers by different mothers?) have exploits we only dream of.

But then again, I'm a happy camper 'cause the Pens are doing well, and the NHL East still isn't settled with three days left in the regular season. Woohoo!

SirLickaLot
04-10-08, 18:08
http://www.abcactionnews.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=175f476c-ac93-4033-a687-d7f1d0667b7c

Retired Gfe
04-17-08, 15:34
If so I have a nice cute thick black girl for you to meet! She's a girlfriend of mine, and a blast!!! Let me know, and I'll give you some contact info and pics! Senior members/active members ONLY!!!! Thanks!

Lissa

R Consultant
04-17-08, 16:57
I think last year when Joe was running for Rhondas seat they brought up his daughter was arrested for hooking and so forth. Its a just the world we live in. I think 200 bucks is really way to high for her looks though. But some clown will pay it. I would estimate 50 bucks on the street at her looks would be the absolute tops for her.. LOL!!


Happy Hunting..


http://www.abcactionnews.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=175f476c-ac93-4033-a687-d7f1d0667b7c

Eye Myt
04-17-08, 20:09
I think last year when Joe was running for Rhondas seat they brought up his daughter was arrested for hooking and so forth. Its a just the world we live in. I think 200 bucks is really way to high for her looks though. But some clown will pay it. I would estimate 50 bucks on the street at her looks would be the absolute tops for her.. LOL!!


Happy Hunting..
I think the deal was she offered to pay the cop 200 bucks to have sex with her!!

R Consultant
04-18-08, 06:23
Yeppers your correct. But looking at her picture theres no way Im going to cough up that much for something that looks like her.

Lets be real if you look at some of the ladies on craigslist-*********-dags- backpage you can find so much better for alot less.

Happy Hunting..



I think the deal was she offered to pay the cop 200 bucks to have sex with her!!

Tail Chaser
04-24-08, 17:38
I took advantage of Retired GFE's double session today. I sure am glad that I did. I have never done a double session. I always thought there'd be too much going on at the same time. I was wrong. I had a really good time.

GFE's friend (Tammy, I think) was very friendly and outgoing. Retired GFE was only able to provide "limited duty". But hey. It's all good.

I had a good time and will probably repeat tomorrow.

Retired Gfe
04-25-08, 08:37
Thanks Tailchaser, we had fun too! We'd be glad to see you again today!


I took advantage of Retired GFE's double session today. I sure am glad that I did. I have never done a double session. I always thought there'd be too much going on at the same time. I was wrong. I had a really good time.

GFE's friend (Tammy, I think) was very friendly and outgoing. Retired GFE was only able to provide "limited duty". But hey. It's all good.

I had a good time and will probably repeat tomorrow.

Retired Gfe
05-07-08, 11:56
Tammy Love is on her way back to O-town, so I'm back do doing solos! As I'm sure she will be once she gets there! (As she is conducting her own biz now, so contact her!) So as of now we are not working together anymore! This is to let those know who have inquired via PM and those who are still wondering! There is no pressure for you to have to see us both! So all my local boys...feel free to CONTACT ME!!!! Thanks!

XOXOXOXO,

Lissa


Thanks Tailchaser, we had fun too! We'd be glad to see you again today!

Mwminfl2001
05-08-08, 12:59
Had a rare chance to cruise St. Pete yesterday. P.C.S.O. was out in force north of 38th, but S.P.P.D. was quite south of 30th until around 8:00 p.m.

Saw Jessica at around 7:30 p.m. behind the Arby's at 6th ave north and 33rd. I had just picked her up when I got called by work and had to drop her off. I made arrangements to meet her again at 8 but I think the increased SPPD activity nipped that in the bud.

Jessica looked pretty good, she had awesome tits (if you like them small and perky like me) but was showing some signs of street wear. She also had lost her voice from "yelling at some scandalous bitches last night" so hearing a husky voice come out of that petite body was a little weird.

Jessica said that SPPD was out in force Tuesday night sweating the girls.

Other than that, it was fairly quite last night from 7-8:30 p.m.

R Consultant
05-08-08, 16:01
If that the Jessica L that I know be a little careful with her. She has always been known to be on the I owe the D-man and I have always had concerns with her. I wouldnt partake with her just because I have heard of the issues and drama she has brought to situations.

Just my .2 cents for you.

Happy Hunting..


Had a rare chance to cruise St. Pete yesterday. P.C.S.O. was out in force north of 38th, but S.P.P.D. was quite south of 30th until around 8:00 p.m.

Saw Jessica at around 7:30 p.m. behind the Arby's at 6th ave north and 33rd. I had just picked her up when I got called by work and had to drop her off. I made arrangements to meet her again at 8 but I think the increased SPPD activity nipped that in the bud.

Jessica looked pretty good, she had awesome tits (if you like them small and perky like me) but was showing some signs of street wear. She also had lost her voice from "yelling at some scandalous bitches last night" so hearing a husky voice come out of that petite body was a little weird.

Jessica said that SPPD was out in force Tuesday night sweating the girls.

Other than that, it was fairly quite last night from 7-8:30 p.m.

Mwminfl2001
05-09-08, 13:29
If that the Jessica L that I know be a little careful with her. She has always been known to be on the I owe the D-man and I have always had concerns with her. I wouldnt partake with her just because I have heard of the issues and drama she has brought to situations.

Just my .2 cents for you.

Happy Hunting..

Don't know if it was her or not. About 5'6", probably 110-120, A cups, strawberry-blonde / brownish hair. Decent looking in the face. She was pretty low key and sane in the car, wish I could have found her the 2nd time around so I could say for sure...

Nardo Life
05-09-08, 13:46
First off Hello, everyone. I have been a lurker for a long time and a "lurking member" for a little while now. These are not the same Jessica's. Jessica L is a complete nightmare and very weird. The Jessica you refer to off of 6th and 33rd is a good find. Not much of an ass but really nice perky tits with nipples that are always hard. Only. 2 for a BBBJCIM and very friendly and sexy. I've sampled 3 or 4 times.

I also seen a WSW walking down gandy, east off 4th near the dog track and she was very hot but by the time I looped around a guy in a budget truck grapped her.

Member #4074
05-09-08, 23:11
If that the Jessica L that I know be a little careful with her. She has always been known to be on the I owe the D-man and I have always had concerns with her. I wouldnt partake with her just because I have heard of the issues and drama she has brought to situations.

Just my .2 cents for you.

Happy Hunting..

RC, if it is Jessica Lounsbury you're refering to, she doesn't have "A" cups...rather she has some saggy-ass "C" cups. Unless, this is a different "J-L" totally.

My guess is that Mwminfl2001 was talking about a totally different Jessica.

R Consultant
05-10-08, 05:21
Yes HoC that is here but I have never seen her her nude so I truly dont know what her breast cup size. I just think shes a complete nutcase from the word Go!

I think there has to be another Jessica out there.


Happy Hunting..[

QUOTE=Ho_Chaser]RC, if it is Jessica Lounsbury you're refering to, she doesn't have "A" cups...rather she has some saggy-ass "C" cups. Unless, this is a different "J-L" totally.

My guess is that Mwminfl2001 was talking about a totally different Jessica.[/QUOTE]

SteelThunder
05-10-08, 08:14
Lounsbury=larger tits, dissheveled, crazy tweaking like a rabid raccoon.

Sounds like Jessica Straubel is the other Jessica that has been mentioned.


Hair color is more to the strawberry side of the strawberry-blonde scale. Short bob cut. She's petite, about 5'3" or 5'4" and probably 110ish. Small, responsive tits. Usuually wears jean shorts to show off some pretty nice legs. If that's not the one you saw then there is a Jessica III.

Dougy Doo
05-10-08, 09:58
This was posted in Tampa. I'm sure everybody here reads both threads, but sometimes I skip some if I'm in a hurry, so I thought it couldn't hurt to post on this side too.


http://www.*******.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1302707

SteelThunder
05-10-08, 11:20
HIV+ Provider
This was posted in Tampa. I'm sure everybody here reads both threads, but sometimes I skip some if I'm in a hurry, so I thought it couldn't hurt to post on this side too.


http://www.*******.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1302707

This girl is one of Selena Collins' buddies. One time when I picked up Selena quite some time back, Necie was on the corner with her. Luckily, Selena was the one that came up to me since we had seen each other before. From what I remember Selena telling me, Necie usually worked in south saint pete in areas where most of us don't venture. She is thin and looked like she didn't have much to speak of as far as tits go. When I saw her standing out there on 4th st. that day she had her hair up. If I didn't have my choice bewteen the two of them, I'm sure I would have picked up Necie. From what Selena told me, Necie was pretty popular--a popularity that will undoubtedly wane at this point. Not an ugly girl, so make a note of how she looks and obviously avoid her based on the latest info. If I would've seen her out again up farther north in my neck of the woods, before this latest info, I would have probably picked her up.

Member #4074
05-10-08, 13:15
Lounsbury=larger tits, dissheveled, crazy tweaking like a rabid raccoon.

Sounds like Jessica Straubel is the other Jessica that has been mentioned.


Hair color is more to the strawberry side of the strawberry-blonde scale. Short bob cut. She's petite, about 5'3" or 5'4" and probably 110ish. Small, responsive tits. Usuually wears jean shorts to show off some pretty nice legs. If that's not the one you saw then there is a Jessica III.

Now, I recognize her from two years ago - hangin' around Haines Road back then. She's pretty, especially if cleaned up. We didn't get to do the deed because she got paranoid and hopped out of my vehicle. I guess she was still relatively new to the hookin' game back then.

Too bad she got arrested last night!

R Consultant
05-10-08, 14:28
I noticed the PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE) on this arrest sheet. Is this something new for Pinellas? I think its great personally. I would speculate the ladies get in more trouble once they know and continue hooking.

Anyone know when this started in Pinellas?

Happy HUnting..

This girl is one of Selena Collins' buddies. One time when I picked up Selena quite some time back, Necie was on the corner with her. Luckily, Selena was the one that came up to me since we had seen each other before. From what I remember Selena telling me, Necie usually worked in south saint pete in areas where most of us don't venture. She is thin and looked like she didn't have much to speak of as far as tits go. When I saw her standing out there on 4th st. that day she had her hair up. If I didn't have my choice bewteen the two of them, I'm sure I would have picked up Necie. From what Selena told me, Necie was pretty popular--a popularity that will undoubtedly wane at this point. Not an ugly girl, so make a note of how she looks and obviously avoid her based on the latest info. If I would've seen her out again up farther north in my neck of the woods, before this latest info, I would have probably picked her up.

Mwminfl2001
05-11-08, 15:33
Lounsbury=larger tits, dissheveled, crazy tweaking like a rabid raccoon.

Sounds like Jessica Straubel is the other Jessica that has been mentioned.


Hair color is more to the strawberry side of the strawberry-blonde scale. Short bob cut. She's petite, about 5'3" or 5'4" and probably 110ish. Small, responsive tits. Usuually wears jean shorts to show off some pretty nice legs. If that's not the one you saw then there is a Jessica III.

Yup, there are two (probably a lot more than that) Jessicas. The one I missed out on is the one Steel describes. Petite, very nice tits, nice gal. I was intending on getting a room when I came back, something I reserve for the top end of my scale.

Member #4558
05-11-08, 15:36
I noticed the PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE) on this arrest sheet. Is this something new for Pinellas? I think its great personally. I would speculate the ladies get in more trouble once they know and continue hooking.

Anyone know when this started in Pinellas?

Happy HUnting..

I'm thinking that they post it when she is knows to be infected. Perhaps it carries a harsher sentence! I don't know.

I have also seen similar charges displayed on the Hillsborough S.O. site as well.

Stpeteguy
05-12-08, 07:24
It's a felony for them if they are caught streetwalking after a HIV positive test. I didn't know they could post that on the site though. You'd think HIPA laws would make them keep that privet.



I'm thinking that they post it when she is knows to be infected. Perhaps it carries a harsher sentence! I don't know.

I have also seen similar charges displayed on the Hillsborough S.O. site as well.

Nardo Life
05-12-08, 10:13
Thats the girl I'm referring to.

Tucker40
05-12-08, 19:17
It's a felony for them if they are caught streetwalking after a HIV positive test. I didn't know they could post that on the site though. You'd think HIPA laws would make them keep that privet.I don't think HIPPA applies to police. Hospitals, that's another matter. Anyway, given the fact that it's part of the charge (and those sheets on the web site contain the basic charges) it pretty much has to be there.

Big Monty Dog
05-13-08, 14:01
I am new to St. Petersburg and this board.

Are there any bars/lounges where working girls hang out either in St. Petes or Tampa?

Thanks

Eye Myt
05-13-08, 14:57
I am new to St. Petersburg and this board.

Are there any bars/lounges where working girls hang out either in St. Petes or Tampa?

Thanks

Try Georgies Alibi Lounge
3100 3rd ave n

Right behind the post office. Give us a report of how you score!!

Your new friend

eye myt

R Consultant
05-13-08, 16:29
I have heard about that place its busy like every single night from all the advertising they do in different magazines. When I go to the post office I see lots of cars everywhere in the parking lot.

Why dont you do as Eye Myt said and take one for the team or better yet post a note and we all can meet up and have a few beers. Make sure you get there early so you can save a few seats since its so fudgin packed.

Good Luck and hope to hear back from you real soon.

Your second friend..

Happy Hunting..



Try Georgies Alibi Lounge
3100 3rd ave n

Right behind the post office. Give us a report of how you score!!

Your new friend

eye myt

Travelrr 433
05-13-08, 17:30
RC:

That is an excellent place for a newbie, YMMV of course.

Travelrr

NobodyYouKnow
05-13-08, 19:14
I noticed the PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE) on this arrest sheet. Is this something new for Pinellas? I think its great personally. I would speculate the ladies get in more trouble once they know and continue hooking.Yes. The cited section of the Florida Statute - 796.08(5)/F reads [pardon the lawyerese, emphasis mine]:

(5) A person who commits prostitution or procures another for prostitution by engaging in sexual activity in a manner likely to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus and who, prior to the commission of such crime, had tested positive for human immunodeficiency virus and knew or had been informed that he or she had tested positive for human immunodeficiency virus and could possibly communicate such disease to another person through sexual activity commits criminal transmission of HIV, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 775.0877(7). A person may be convicted and sentenced separately for a violation of this subsection and for the underlying crime of prostitution or procurement of prostitution.

NobodyYouKnow
05-13-08, 19:22
Are there any bars/lounges where working girls hang out either in St. Petes or Tampa?You might want to try the Hooters in Clearwater, the original one on 2800 Gulf to Bay. Ask for "Lynn", I've heard that she'll drop her clothes for money. Seems she no longer uses a driver named "Darren".

Clinton Bush
05-13-08, 22:45
Try Georgies Alibi Lounge
3100 3rd ave n

Right behind the post office. Give us a report of how you score!!

Your new friend

eye myt

Good choice. My brother-in-law goes there all the time. He loves it - says he always gets laid! Said everything is on the menu there - even greek!!!

Post a report and let us know how you make out.

CB

Big Monty Dog
05-14-08, 08:53
I will try there this Thursday - tomorow - night.

Will plan on geting there approx 9:00 PM

See what happens and will post results.

R Consultant
05-14-08, 12:46
Well the old saying is true ask and you shall receive. Thats probably a girl that the pick em-lick em- stick em-- would be a bad idea. The gift that keeps on giving isnt a road this boy wants to go down.

Thanks for the response we all need good information.

Happy Hunting..



Yes. The cited section of the Florida Statute - 796.08(5)/F reads [pardon the lawyerese, emphasis mine]:

(5) A person who commits prostitution or procures another for prostitution by engaging in sexual activity in a manner likely to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus and who, prior to the commission of such crime, had tested positive for human immunodeficiency virus and knew or had been informed that he or she had tested positive for human immunodeficiency virus and could possibly communicate such disease to another person through sexual activity commits criminal transmission of HIV, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 775.0877(7). A person may be convicted and sentenced separately for a violation of this subsection and for the underlying crime of prostitution or procurement of prostitution.

Milfman
05-14-08, 17:34
Hello gents,

I saw this little article and thought I would share it with you all. This is some funny shit. I hope it doesn't catch on here but if it doesat least you will know who you can ask for a little happy times.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24049693/

Hawkeye0060
05-15-08, 00:57
This girl is one of Selena Collins' buddies. One time when I picked up Selena quite some time back, Necie was on the corner with her. Luckily, Selena was the one that came up to me since we had seen each other before. From what I remember Selena telling me, Necie usually worked in south saint pete in areas where most of us don't venture. She is thin and looked like she didn't have much to speak of as far as tits go. When I saw her standing out there on 4th st. that day she had her hair up. If I didn't have my choice bewteen the two of them, I'm sure I would have picked up Necie. From what Selena told me, Necie was pretty popular--a popularity that will undoubtedly wane at this point. Not an ugly girl, so make a note of how she looks and obviously avoid her based on the latest info. If I would've seen her out again up farther north in my neck of the woods, before this latest info, I would have probably picked her up.Necy HIV+ A SOBERING MOMENT

I did pick her up. She is a regular of mine in my neighborhood and after three years of sleeping together on and off, I got to know her very well. She is a good person and a great provider and never gave me any trouble at all. Sometimes she would come over and just hang out to sleep off her usual crack high. We often talked about life on the streets, and her 16 month old son who was taken from her by child protective services.

I said this to say that even as well as I knew her, I never, and I mean NEVER ever had sex with her without using a condom. EVER!

All you guys out there, remember every time you don't use a condom even for oral sex, especially with the crack SW crowd,you are taking a tremendous risk of catching aids. I cannot tell you how important this is for all of us. I of course, ran out and got tested last week and am thankful to say that I am HIV - (neg).

Even though she is a SW and a druggie, she is still a person who's life has been cut short by her lifestyle.

A sobering reminder to how difficult and harsh life can be out there when it hits so close to home.

Be extremely careful out there.

Hawkeye

Mike Wazowski
05-15-08, 03:02
All you guys out there, remember every time you don't use a condom even for oral sex, especially with the crack SW crowd,you are taking a tremendous risk of catching aids.

You should really do some research before you repeat right-wing/religious rhetoric designed to scare people with complete falsehoods stated as facts.

You aren't going to get HIV from oral sex. Saliva kills the virus. Vaginal fluids kill the virus. Semen kills the virus. HIV is transmitted via blood to blood contact. The circumstances needed to allow transmission from female to male during intercourse are so extreme the concept is all but statistically impossible.

Now, should you decide to actually look for real information to see if I'm telling the truth, when you're done, go and find out just how, virtually, useless condoms are in preventing the spread of Herpes, Clamadia and Syphallis. The only thing condoms come close to 100% effectiveness in preventing is the most easily cured venereal disease, Ghonorrea.

Safe sex is a great presentation of using fear, mis-information and outright lies to sell a product that is lousy at doing what it was invented for: Preventing pregnancy.

SteelThunder
05-15-08, 07:54
Necy HIV+ A SOBERING MOMENT

I did pick her up. She is a regular of mine in my neighborhood and after three years of sleeping together on and off, I got to know her very well.

I said this to say that even as well as I knew her, I never, and I mean NEVER ever had sex with her without using a condom. EVER!

All you guys out there, remember every time you don't use a condom even for oral sex, especially with the crack SW crowd,you are taking a tremendous risk of catching aids. I cannot tell you how important this is for all of us. I of course, ran out and got tested last week and am thankful to say that I am HIV - (neg).

Hawkeye


In all your previous reports about the other SW you've picked up, you refer to enjoying the bbbj with them. Why are you trumpeting the virtues of the cbj and warning others about not using a condom when it seems that based on your own reports you haven't been doing that yourself?

IrishMale
05-15-08, 08:38
You should really do some research before you repeat right-wing/religious rhetoric designed to scare people with complete falsehoods stated as facts.

You aren't going to get HIV from oral sex. Saliva kills the virus. Vaginal fluids kill the virus. Semen kills the virus. HIV is transmitted via blood to blood contact. The circumstances needed to allow transmission from female to male during intercourse are so extreme the concept is all but statistically impossible.

Now, should you decide to actually look for real information to see if I'm telling the truth, when you're done, go and find out just how, virtually, useless condoms are in preventing the spread of Herpes, Clamadia and Syphallis. The only thing condoms come close to 100% effectiveness in preventing is the most easily cured venereal disease, Ghonorrea.

Safe sex is a great presentation of using fear, mis-information and outright lies to sell a product that is lousy at doing what it was invented for: Preventing pregnancy.

Is it really worth the risk to believe the use of condoms to prevent STD's and HIV is a marketing ploy only? And, once again, assertions are made here as authoritative without the foundation of research citations that would support them. There are a number of places to find information, some of which comes from education resources (typically accused of being liberal rather than conservative or right wing) and here's one that should be considered. http://www.albany.edu/sph/AIDS/aids101_2.html. For those who may still be skeptical you owe it to yourself to do more research either on the Internet, at the library, or both.

Hawkeye0060
05-15-08, 12:13
Is it really worth the risk to believe the use of condoms to prevent STD's and HIV is a marketing ploy only? And, once again, assertions are made here as authoritative without the foundation of research citations that would support them. There are a number of places to find information, some of which comes from education resources (typically accused of being liberal rather than conservative or right wing) and here's one that should be considered. http://www.albany.edu/sph/AIDS/aids101_2.html. For those who may still be skeptical you owe it to yourself to do more research either on the Internet, at the library, or both.Point well taken,

forgive me for being out of line, I guess it's because it was so close to home. I will be better informed next time. Didn't mean to take liberties and over react here.
Thanks for your information.

Hawkeye.

Mike Wazowski
05-15-08, 16:22
Is it really worth the risk to believe the use of condoms to prevent STD's and HIV is a marketing ploy only? And, once again, assertions are made here as authoritative without the foundation of research citations that would support them. There are a number of places to find information, some of which comes from education resources (typically accused of being liberal rather than conservative or right wing) and here's one that should be considered. http://www.albany.edu/sph/AIDS/aids101_2.html. For those who may still be skeptical you owe it to yourself to do more research either on the Internet, at the library, or both.

If you pay attention to what is said on that site, it is, pretty much, parrotting the AIDS propaganda while glancing over the truth as quickly as possible.

There is liberal use of words like "may" and "can" while implying "WILL."

The mixture of outright falsehoods followed by a true statement: "HIV is found in vaginal fluids and menstrual blood and can be transmitted to male partners, particularly if there is a cut or sore on the penis."

Okay, every professional journal I've read since my college days (I have an advanced degree in the Sociological study of Human Sexuality) says that vaginal fluids kill the virus. The "cut or (open) sore on the penis" part of the statement is the only true part of the sentence. Both partners having blood to blood contact is the ONLY means of HIV transmission.


Then if you follow the "Epidemic" link on that site it screams that world-wide, "One out of every one-hundred adults 15-49 is HIV infected."

Wow. That's pretty scary, huh?

Scroll down, it tells how the United States had a whopping 612,078 reported cases of AIDS through 1997.

Not IN 1997 but from the discovery of the virus until 1997.

In other words, in a decade and a half, that HUGE number of people were stricken with HIV.

If you were wondering why there is no "One in whatever" statistic included, that's because it works out to 2/10 of one percent of the US population contracting HIV in a fifteen year period. That's two out of every 1000. Or 1 out of every 500 and, gosh darn it, that's just not as intimidating at ONE OUT OF ONE HUNDRED. And one out of one hundred still isn't that many.

The truth is, I could hold you at gun point and force you to have unprotected sex with an HIV infected woman three times a day for a year and you'd be more likely to hit the lottery with one ticket than you would to contract the HIV virus.

And take a look at the condom section of that site. Lot's of back pedalling and double-speak, that, esentially, says, "We have no idea if condoms have any effectiveness in preventing the spread of HIV."

SteelThunder
05-15-08, 18:53
When traveling down any road, whether in my car or in my life, I try not to go too far near the edges.

There are a variety of reputable links, but sadly a ton more "agenda related" sites on the internet. We could all post a variety of views, opinions and theories and a lot of the so-called "truths" about this disease are still being uncovered. Most non-zealot sources will correctly indicate that the person receiving a bbbj has a nearly zero chance of receiving HIV. However, semen doesn't kill the virus, in fact the newest studies indicated that certain proteins found in semen actually may help the disease take hold in people based on the manner in which certain proteins interact. Since I'm not planning on ingesting any semen anytime soon, I'm not too worried about this latest news. The only, very, very minimal risk from a bbbj is from the person performing the act. A freshly open sore or abrasion could allow for transmission of the virus into the blood stream. With that said, there are various theories and conflicting reports about how much HIV is actually contained in semen, but it has been shown to contain it in small amounts from time to time in some samples taken from men (this could be because of trace blood that actually made its way into the semen). I have never heard any reputable journal talk about how vaginal fluids and semen actually kill the virus. While they may not contain much virus (or any at all depending on what you read) I have never heard of them referred to as HIV-slayers.

Other bodily fluids, saliva, sweat and urine are not viable vehicles for the spread of the virus. HIV must find its way into your blood stream in order to infect you. That is the only way for it to infect you. Abrasions, sores, cuts, or the mucous membranes with close association to blood pathways are the only possible ways that this can occur thorugh sexual activity.

One of the main problems with unprotected intercourse is that if you get into the activity (and we all have at some point) and end up a bit "raw", if your partner has HIV, your risks could increase, theoretically. The vagina bleeds every month and also is commonly found to have slight tissue tears, etc...factors that put a woman with higher sexual activity levels at more risk than one without such activity levels. There are a wide variety of factors that have caused the proliferation of HIV in certain parts of the world. How they intermingle and impact each other is pretty complex and very hard to isolate individual factors and say that they either have nothing to do with or everything to do with the spread of the virus. Unfortunately, way too many internet sources make such wild claims.

I have never read any validated reports of men getting HIV through receiving uncovered oral sex. Therefore I'm not going to worry about the bbbj's I receive. I would not knowingly receive one from a girl that had HIV...my luck would have me being a freakish statistically anomaly of some sort--so I'd beg off that one. However, there are definitive cases of HIV that are conclusively linked to unprotected heterosexual intercourse. I don't care if it is most likely because of the blood in the vagina and fresh abrasions on a penis. I choose to sheath it up when I veer off the road into those pink tunnels. Plus, even more importantly, I don't want any unexpected mini-me's being raised by a Jane "SW" Doe.

Best of luck

Big Monty Dog
05-15-08, 19:13
Good choice. My brother-in-law goes there all the time. He loves it - says he always gets laid! Said everything is on the menu there - even greek!!!

Post a report and let us know how you make out.

CBWell, got there about 6:00 PM

Greek is definately available but did not partake.

Not my type.

If any of you guys ever get to my stomping grounds up north, don't hesitate to contact me & I will recommend places for you to go to.

All in good fun!!

R Consultant
05-15-08, 21:54
dang guys you are even getting me paranoid. Lets just make is simple if it looks real scary looking or you know shes got the ninja issues. Stay away from her and warn others so we put the info out thats she bad news.

Happy Hunting..




If you pay attention to what is said on that site, it is, pretty much, parrotting the AIDS propaganda while glancing over the truth as quickly as possible.

There is liberal use of words like "may" and "can" while implying "WILL."

The mixture of outright falsehoods followed by a true statement: "HIV is found in vaginal fluids and menstrual blood and can be transmitted to male partners, particularly if there is a cut or sore on the penis."

Okay, every professional journal I've read since my college days (I have an advanced degree in the Sociological study of Human Sexuality) says that vaginal fluids kill the virus. The "cut or (open) sore on the penis" part of the statement is the only true part of the sentence. Both partners having blood to blood contact is the ONLY means of HIV transmission.


Then if you follow the "Epidemic" link on that site it screams that world-wide, "One out of every one-hundred adults 15-49 is HIV infected."

Wow. That's pretty scary, huh?

Scroll down, it tells how the United States had a whopping 612,078 reported cases of AIDS through 1997.

Not IN 1997 but from the discovery of the virus until 1997.

In other words, in a decade and a half, that HUGE number of people were stricken with HIV.

If you were wondering why there is no "One in whatever" statistic included, that's because it works out to 2/10 of one percent of the US population contracting HIV in a fifteen year period. That's two out of every 1000. Or 1 out of every 500 and, gosh darn it, that's just not as intimidating at ONE OUT OF ONE HUNDRED. And one out of one hundred still isn't that many.

The truth is, I could hold you at gun point and force you to have unprotected sex with an HIV infected woman three times a day for a year and you'd be more likely to hit the lottery with one ticket than you would to contract the HIV virus.

And take a look at the condom section of that site. Lot's of back pedalling and double-speak, that, esentially, says, "We have no idea if condoms have any effectiveness in preventing the spread of HIV."

Clinton Bush
05-16-08, 01:14
Well, got there about 6:00 PM

Greek is definately available but did not partake.

Not my type.

If any of you guys ever get to my stomping grounds up north, don't hesitate to contact me & I will recommend places for you to go to.

All in good fun!!

RTF and you will find some places where services are readily available. Also try the Tampa, Orlando and Sarasota boards. The Tampa Bay area has a wide variety of fun activities. Read and you will find what you are looking for.

CB

Eye Myt
05-16-08, 06:38
Well, got there about 6:00 PM

Greek is definately available but did not partake.

Not my type.

If any of you guys ever get to my stomping grounds up north, don't hesitate to contact me & I will recommend places for you to go to.

All in good fun!!

Welcome to St. Pete!!

R Consultant
05-16-08, 09:21
Well were glad you didnt find anything that great there. I would be a little careful myself in there as a few of those ladies are just a little on the slip side. Sad part is the place is actually packed alot. Im sure they are packing also.

Now for a real deal I would shoot up to Vegas on Gandy Blvd. Its a topless club but if you cant get laid in there you just cant get laid. You can pretty much get whatever you want as the ladies are very very friendly.

Happy Hunting..




QUOTE=Big Monty Dog]Well, got there about 6:00 PM

Greek is definately available but did not partake.

Not my type.

If any of you guys ever get to my stomping grounds up north, don't hesitate to contact me & I will recommend places for you to go to.

All in good fun!![/QUOTE]

IrishMale
05-16-08, 09:29
...The mixture of outright falsehoods followed by a true statement: "HIV is found in vaginal fluids and menstrual blood and can be transmitted to male partners, particularly if there is a cut or sore on the penis."

...Okay, every professional journal I've read since my college days (I have an advanced degree in the Sociological study of Human Sexuality) says that vaginal fluids kill the virus. The "cut or (open) sore on the penis" part of the statement is the only true part of the sentence. Both partners having blood to blood contact is the ONLY means of HIV transmission.

..The truth is, I could hold you at gun point and force you to have unprotected sex with an HIV infected woman three times a day for a year and you'd be more likely to hit the lottery with one ticket than you would to contract the HIV virus.

And take a look at the condom section of that site. Lot's of back pedalling and double-speak, that, esentially, says, "We have no idea if condoms have any effectiveness in preventing the spread of HIV."

With all due respect, I could say I am an MD with advanced degrees in anything I would like you to believe. However, to be credible in authoritative statements of fact, as you have made here, to people who may never see me or know me, it would be appropriate to support my authoritative stance with citations to the various sources I would be depending on to make those statements, and that's what's lacking here.

So, I once again ask the original question, "Is it worth the risk?" I think that's a question to be asked and answered by each individual. However, to make an informed decision, each individual should have some knowledge to depend on which should come from credible sources, not just a post on a bulletin board that provides no linkage to credible sources.

You would be doing us all a service by providing a link to or the name, publisher, and date of edition of just a couple of the medical journals you refer to that clearly state vaginal fluids kill the virus.

It would also be a service to us all if you can provide a link to or the name, publisher, and date of edition of at least one medical journal that provides a statement that one can have unprotected sex three times a day with an HIV infected woman for a year and be more likely to hit the lottery. Surely there is some empirical data in a journal or study you have read that will support this assertion.

In the absence of such support, what we have is one person's opinion that may or may not be correct. And if that opinion is not correct, and if someone on this site depends on that opinion to make a decision, that person might very well put his own health or life at risk.

R Consultant
05-16-08, 09:42
Just to add a little bit on this of my view. We all know there are risks associated with SW's. No matter what we say we all just have to be careful. I value my life thats why I read this forum. I feel obligated to help the people who have helped me throughout my time on this forum. So I share what I know to help keep you guys as safe as possible.
With all that mine what each person posts here is a symbol that we all need to take "some kind" of precaution no matter what that is.

Happy Hunting..


When traveling down any road, whether in my car or in my life, I try not to go too far near the edges.

There are a variety of reputable links, but sadly a ton more "agenda related" sites on the internet. We could all post a variety of views, opinions and theories and a lot of the so-called "truths" about this disease are still being uncovered. Most non-zealot sources will correctly indicate that the person receiving a bbbj has a nearly zero chance of receiving HIV. However, semen doesn't kill the virus, in fact the newest studies indicated that certain proteins found in semen actually may help the disease take hold in people based on the manner in which certain proteins interact. Since I'm not planning on ingesting any semen anytime soon, I'm not too worried about this latest news. The only, very, very minimal risk from a bbbj is from the person performing the act. A freshly open sore or abrasion could allow for transmission of the virus into the blood stream. With that said, there are various theories and conflicting reports about how much HIV is actually contained in semen, but it has been shown to contain it in small amounts from time to time in some samples taken from men (this could be because of trace blood that actually made its way into the semen). I have never heard any reputable journal talk about how vaginal fluids and semen actually kill the virus. While they may not contain much virus (or any at all depending on what you read) I have never heard of them referred to as HIV-slayers.

Other bodily fluids, saliva, sweat and urine are not viable vehicles for the spread of the virus. HIV must find its way into your blood stream in order to infect you. That is the only way for it to infect you. Abrasions, sores, cuts, or the mucous membranes with close association to blood pathways are the only possible ways that this can occur thorugh sexual activity.

One of the main problems with unprotected intercourse is that if you get into the activity (and we all have at some point) and end up a bit "raw", if your partner has HIV, your risks could increase, theoretically. The vagina bleeds every month and also is commonly found to have slight tissue tears, etc...factors that put a woman with higher sexual activity levels at more risk than one without such activity levels. There are a wide variety of factors that have caused the proliferation of HIV in certain parts of the world. How they intermingle and impact each other is pretty complex and very hard to isolate individual factors and say that they either have nothing to do with or everything to do with the spread of the virus. Unfortunately, way too many internet sources make such wild claims.

I have never read any validated reports of men getting HIV through receiving uncovered oral sex. Therefore I'm not going to worry about the bbbj's I receive. I would not knowingly receive one from a girl that had HIV...my luck would have me being a freakish statistically anomaly of some sort--so I'd beg off that one. However, there are definitive cases of HIV that are conclusively linked to unprotected heterosexual intercourse. I don't care if it is most likely because of the blood in the vagina and fresh abrasions on a penis. I choose to sheath it up when I veer off the road into those pink tunnels. Plus, even more importantly, I don't want any unexpected mini-me's being raised by a Jane "SW" Doe.

Best of luck

Big Monty Dog
05-16-08, 09:53
Thanks.

I will try there, actually not far from me as I'm in Pinellas Park.

Did a bit of crusiing last night with directions from this board.

Only thing I saw was a Blonde WSW at 4St & 5 Ave.

Was sitting with a black guy and looked really rough, so didn't partake.

Drove home via Hains, nothing there.

BTW - what happened to Tampa board?


Well were glad you didnt find anything that great there. I would be a little careful myself in there as a few of those ladies are just a little on the slip side. Sad part is the place is actually packed alot. Im sure they are packing also.

Now for a real deal I would shoot up to Vegas on Gandy Blvd. Its a topless club but if you cant get laid in there you just cant get laid. You can pretty much get whatever you want as the ladies are very very friendly.

Happy Hunting.




QUOTE=Big Monty Dog]Well, got there about 6:00 PM

Greek is definately available but did not partake.

Not my type.

If any of you guys ever get to my stomping grounds up north, don't hesitate to contact me & I will recommend places for you to go to.

All in good fun!![/QUOTE]

SW Surfer
05-16-08, 11:12
Just to add a little bit on this of my view. We all know there are risks associated with SW's. No matter what we say we all just have to be careful. I value my life thats why I read this forum. I feel obligated to help the people who have helped me throughout my time on this forum. So I share what I know to help keep you guys as safe as possible.
With all that mine what each person posts here is a symbol that we all need to take "some kind" of precaution no matter what that is.

Happy Hunting..I am more concerned about HPV then HIV. I could only imagine giving my girlfriend something that will give her cancer.

Surfer Out

Mike Wazowski
05-16-08, 11:12
With all due respect, I could say I am an MD with advanced degrees in anything I would like you to believe. However, to be credible in authoritative statements of fact, as you have made here, to people who may never see me or know me, it would be appropriate to support my authoritative stance with citations to the various sources I would be depending on to make those statements, and that's what's lacking here.

So, I once again ask the original question, "Is it worth the risk?" I think that's a question to be asked and answered by each individual. However, to make an informed decision, each individual should have some knowledge to depend on which should come from credible sources, not just a post on a bulletin board that provides no linkage to credible sources.

You would be doing us all a service by providing a link to or the name, publisher, and date of edition of just a couple of the medical journals you refer to that clearly state vaginal fluids kill the virus.

It would also be a service to us all if you can provide a link to or the name, publisher, and date of edition of at least one medical journal that provides a statement that one can have unprotected sex three times a day with an HIV infected woman for a year and be more likely to hit the lottery. Surely there is some empirical data in a journal or study you have read that will support this assertion.

In the absence of such support, what we have is one person's opinion that may or may not be correct. And if that opinion is not correct, and if someone on this site depends on that opinion to make a decision, that person might very well put his own health or life at risk.

Okay, after poking around with Google, I will grant you this: Since my college days of studying this stuff, they have added (I suspect at the urging of the government) vaginal fluids and semen to the list of fluids that carry HIV.

But you know what? Everything I'm reading also points out that the concentrations are EXTREMELY LOW in these fluids. Vaginal fluids having the smallest concentrations.

There has been all sorts of talk of transmission through the mucus membranes. But, again, after screaming the scare factors, the fine print points out that very few cases of such are documented.

I stand by my assertion that female to male transmission of HIV is very low, teetering on the edge of impossible.

One thing that hasn't been done is finding a way to include saliva. All research points to saliva being an inhibitor of HIV.

One can also find information that states that the body's mucus membrane is designed to FILTER out germs and viruses. Yet, sometimes, a germ or virus can get through, despite the body's best efforts to keep it out. This will happen with HIV just as it will with measles, chicken pox, flu, etc.

I'm not advocating going out and having unprotected sex with prostitutes. I don't, however, think that it's such a big scare factor as some mongers make themselves believe.

If anything, the protection is for the female partner as a woman is much more likely to end up infected with HIV from a man than a man is from a woman.

As I said, everything I'm reading states the scare factors and then glosses over the truth, quietly mentioning things like that less than a dozen cases of HIV transmission via oral sex are documented and those that are documented aren't well qualified.

Here's a few links since you don't want to trust your old buddy Wazowski. I don't know what good they'll do since you already seem to have drank the Kool Aid and bought the propaganda of fear. Reading between the lines and paying attention after the scare factors are read can be eye-opening.

http://www.thebody.com/content/art40621.html



http://www.aidspei.com/trans.php



http://www.acsa.org.au/faq.html



http://www.sfaf.org/aids101/transmission.html

IrishMale
05-16-08, 12:49
Okay, after poking around with Google, I will grant you this: Since my college days of studying this stuff, they have added (I suspect at the urging of the government) vaginal fluids and semen to the list of fluids that carry HIV...

I stand by my assertion that female to male transmission of HIV is very low, teetering on the edge of impossible...

I'm not advocating going out and having unprotected sex with prostitutes. I don't, however, think that it's such a big scare factor as some mongers make themselves believe...

If anything, the protection is for the female partner as a woman is much more likely to end up infected with HIV from a man than a man is from a woman.

I don't know what good they'll do since you already seem to have drank the Kool Aid and bought the propaganda of fear. Reading between the lines and paying attention after the scare factors are read can be eye-opening.

http://www.thebody.com/content/art40621.html



http://www.aidspei.com/trans.php



http://www.acsa.org.au/faq.html



http://www.sfaf.org/aids101/transmission.html

By doing the research that you did and posting the links here, you did far more service for your fellow mongerers than in your first post, number 187. This is one who appreciates the effort on your part. Still, you are missing a very important consideration.

We all look to each other for informative and factual information here. While female to male transmission may be very low, it is not impossible according to the supporting data we've seen here so far. How many of us here have wives? How many of us here have long term girl friends? How many of us here are in a relationship with more than one lady? Is it worth the risk to them?

While you may not have been advocating unprotected sex if you go back and read your post 187, it is posed in such an authoritative way that one could certainly make the argument that you are, even if you aren't. It does appear that you are being critical of a person's decision to be as careful as possible.

As an educated person and as a credentialed person, you should be the type of person who is not satisfied to "read between the lines." If there is a belief that any source is incorrect or misleading, you - and I - should be the type of people who pursue factual information contradicting those sources rather than assuming something is so because it is somehow contained between the lines of a study or publication.

Obviously your citations here have done some good because you have provided factual information that everyone can look at and determine for themselves when to be safe and when not to be safe. As for your Kool Aid remark, I think it's a little beneath a person of your stated knowledge and is presumptious of what I believe and don't believe. One thing I do believe is this. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Is it really worth the risk, not just to me but to others around me, not to be careful? For me the answer is definitely no.

Mike Wazowski
05-16-08, 15:19
By doing the research that you did and posting the links here, you did far more service for your fellow mongerers than in your first post, number 187. This is one who appreciates the effort on your part. Still, you are missing a very important consideration.

We all look to each other for informative and factual information here. While female to male transmission may be very low, it is not impossible according to the supporting data we've seen here so far. How many of us here have wives? How many of us here have long term girl friends? How many of us here are in a relationship with more than one lady? Is it worth the risk to them?

While you may not have been advocating unprotected sex if you go back and read your post 187, it is posed in such an authoritative way that one could certainly make the argument that you are, even if you aren't. It does appear that you are being critical of a person's decision to be as careful as possible.

As an educated person and as a credentialed person, you should be the type of person who is not satisfied to "read between the lines. " If there is a belief that any source is incorrect or misleading, you. And I. Should be the type of people who pursue factual information contradicting those sources rather than assuming something is so because it is somehow contained between the lines of a study or publication.

Obviously your citations here have done some good because you have provided factual information that everyone can look at and determine for themselves when to be safe and when not to be safe. As for your Kool Aid remark, I think it's a little beneath a person of your stated knowledge and is presumptious of what I believe and don't believe. One thing I do believe is this. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Is it really worth the risk, not just to me but to others around me, not to be careful? For me the answer is definitely no. As I said, I'm not advocating going out and having unprotected sex with prostitutes.

I do, however, get a bit worked up when people buy into the scare tactics that date back to the Reagan administration. That's when I was doing my graduate work and when the original government study on AIDS came out.

Well, it didn't really come out, it was recalled within a couple of days. Our "family values" president seemed to like how AIDS had ended the sexual revolution. The original report made it pretty clear that hetero sexual AIDS was not going to be a major issue. Could it and would it happen? Yes. In great numbers? No. The majority from male/female sexual interaction? No. The bulk would and. At that point. Could be traced to drug use.

Can I document this? No. Do you really think the government would admit this publicly? How do I know? Because one of the top Sociologists in the world blew a gasket when he found out the report had been recalled from the university library. I won't say who it was because he is very well known and the era would reveal what university he was at and my work with him would lead anyone reading to narrow down my identity to about a dozen possible people. I will, however, Irish, PM you his name if you so desire to look up his credentials.

Around that time the person who was the New York State's equivilent of Surgeon General made an effort to find out the truths about AIDS. That person (I don't recall the gender) was not content to just accept a person's claim that they could have only accquired the virus from heterosexual contact.

The NY physician did further interviews with the state's heterosexual AIDS cases and found that any woman who got the virus was either an IV drug user (majority) or was having sexual relations with a man who was either an IV drug user or admitted to bi-sexual behavior.

The men in New York state who claimed AIDS through heterosexual content were further interviewed. All but one, eventually, admitted to IV drug use (the majority) or bi-sexual behavior.

This New York information was all documented when the doctor did an interview with Rolling Stone.

Since then (the NY doctor was relieved of that position) government agencies have been forbidden to ask any further questions if someone with HIV infection claims that it could only be from heterosexual contact.

As for the condom companies. Well, the pill was putting their sales down the toilet. Now they don't even promote condoms as birth control. Nor do schools teach birth control. Everything is about preventing disease. The condom companies latched onto the AIDS scare and have been making a fortune from an I'll-informed general public.

So, in a nutshell, I don't advocate unprotected sex with prostitutes. I do cringe at people who, in a nomal relationship, think that each and every person they meet might have AIDS.

I don't think that the chances of contracting HIV from female to male are as significant as the public is lead to believe. Can it happen? Yes. Do I hide inside when it rains because people can get hit by lightning? No. Do I refrain from air travel because planes can crash? No. My personal studies lead me to believe that the chance of female to male HIV transmission fall into the above scenarios' statistical neighborhood.

I don't think the virtues of condoms preventing HIV transmission are as good as the condom companies want you to believe. Remember, they don't give any statistics and ALWAYS back-pedal, reminding you that if you, just once, don't use a condom or, just once, use one incorrectly (what ever that means) your chances just shot way up.

IrishMale
05-16-08, 15:43
I guess that's a long winded way of saying that, for you, yes it is worth the risk of unprotected sex, even if your number comes up and it affects someone else in your life. If that is your choice then it is your right to make that choice. Others may want to be a little more concerned about others in their life and be cautious. Cautious to them may be over cautious to you and that's OK. It is your choice whether or not to be concerned not just about yourself but about others in your life. Mike, I think we've about beat this horse to death. What do you say we just agree to disagree on this and let those who read the forum check out the sources that have been provided in this debate and decide for themselves what is right for them?

NobodyYouKnow
05-16-08, 17:40
Cautious to them may be over cautious to you and that's OK. It is your choice whether or not to be concerned not just about yourself but about others in your life.I believe you guys are talking past each other (emphasis mine):
So, in a nutshell, I don't advocate unprotected sex with prostitutes. I do cringe at people who, in a nomal relationship, think that each and every person they meet might have AIDS.

Clinton Bush
05-16-08, 17:57
Thanks.

I will try there, actually not far from me as I'm in Pinellas Park.

Did a bit of crusiing last night with directions from this board.

Only thing I saw was a Blonde WSW at 4St & 5 Ave.

Was sitting with a black guy and looked really rough, so didn't partake.

Drove home via Hains, nothing there.

BTW - what happened to Tampa board?Big Monty Dog and others new to the area. I would suggest driving the neighborhoods noted here during the day FIRST before cruising at night. That way you can get the "lay of the land" before finding your lay of the day. Some neighborhoods are a bit rougher than others. It is better to see and know what is where and where LEO likes to lurk during the day, than to let the little head makes some fast decisions during the night.

Stay safe.

CB

Admin
05-17-08, 02:31
Greetings everyone,

Per the Forum's Posting Guidelines, Safe Sex Complaints may only be posted in the Safe Sex thread (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268).

Members may also use the Forum's PM system to voice their Safe Complaints towards individual Forum Members.

Here's the full text of the reasoning behind this policy:


Effective immediately, Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268). Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...

In addition, Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.

It does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:

1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.

To address the usual arguments:

1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.

2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.

3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.Thanks,

Jackson

Big Monty Dog
05-17-08, 14:42
Big Monty Dog and others new to the area. I would suggest driving the neighborhoods noted here during the day FIRST before cruising at night. That way you can get the "lay of the land" before finding your lay of the day. Some neighborhoods are a bit rougher than others. It is better to see and know what is where and where LEO likes to lurk during the day, than to let the little head makes some fast decisions during the night.

Stay safe.

CBThanks for the advise.

Went downtown today approx 1:00 PM and found Robin at 4th St & 7th Ave.

Felt safe and no hassles

Review in 4th Street Streetwalkers board.

Thanks again

R Consultant
05-19-08, 13:14
Any of you guys know Cheesecake the WSW. Shes on CWConfessions. I remember her a long time ago but I forget who she is and so forth. I thought she was LE back in the day but I see now she wasnt.

Any info fire away when you have time.

Happy Hunting..

SW Surfer
05-19-08, 14:42
Any of you guys know Cheesecake the WSW. Shes on CWConfessions. I remember her a long time ago but I forget who she is and so forth. I thought she was LE back in the day but I see now she wasnt.

Any info fire away when you have time.

Happy Hunting..I remember her from the early 90's. I picked her up at the truckstop in Lakeland/I-4, I think her name was Lilly? If I remember correctly she have a great BJ.

Surfer Out

R Consultant
05-22-08, 16:06
After corresponding with another member here I have a few concerns and a few questions maybe someone can answer. How do you know what these letters are after a charge say like

796.08(5)/F--- PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE)
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796.07(2)(E)/M---VOP PROSTITUTION

Remember just the letters after the 08 & 07 is what Im curious to know what they mean.
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I have now learned that 796.08 is that we all should stay clear of any woman arrested for this as HIV is very likely. Just for your own sake of not wanting to catch anything unwanted.

If anyone knows that they mean please let me know either by PM or on the board as I think its very important we share this info.

IrishMale
05-22-08, 17:26
R, did the numbers and letters come off the charge sheet that was posted online? I believe the F means felony and the M means misdemeanor.

R Consultant
05-22-08, 17:44
After myself and Piratefan were chatting he brought it to my attention about the numbers and I was like dam its right under our finger tips when we were talking HIV girls.
Note: HCSO is making it known just in there bookings who has issues and so forth but it seems Pinellas uses 768 code for HIV SW. So with that in mind when we see these bookings as most of us do check the jail sites we should inform our little group. The last thing we all want is to get something we cant get rid of.
Im just also wondering if anyone is aware of what the numbers mean. Thanks Irish male for your input.

Happy Hunting..



R, did the numbers and letters come off the charge sheet that was posted online? I believe the F means felony and the M means misdemeanor.

SW Surfer
05-22-08, 17:47
After corresponding with another member here I have a few concerns and a few questions maybe someone can answer. How do you know what these letters are after a charge say like

796.08(5)/F--- PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE)
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796.07(2)(E)/M---VOP PROSTITUTION

Remember just the letters after the 08 & 07 is what Im curious to know what they mean.
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I have now learned that 796.08 is that we all should stay clear of any woman arrested for this as HIV is very likely. Just for your own sake of not wanting to catch anything unwanted.

If anyone knows that they mean please let me know either by PM or on the board as I think its very important we share this info.Here are a few websites and a list of some of the codes. – More to come.


796.08(5)/F--- PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE)
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796.07(2)(E)/M---VOP PROSTITUTION

http://www.prostitutionprocon.org/florida.htm#6

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/FSCView.asp?coid=584
For purposes of Chap. 895, "prostitution" is defined in Sec. 796.07 as "the giving or receiving of the body for sexual activity for hire but excludes sexual activity between spouses." However, that section apparently establishes several prostitution-related crimes of its own, to wit:
"(2) It is unlawful:
(a) To own, establish, maintain, or operate any place, structure, building, or conveyance for the purpose of lewdness, assignation, or prostitution.
(b) To offer, or to offer or agree to secure, another for the purpose of prostitution or for any other lewd or indecent act.
(c) To receive, or to offer or agree to receive, any person into any place, structure, building, or conveyance for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation, or to permit any person to remain there for such purpose.
(d) To direct, take, or transport, or to offer or agree to direct, take, or transport, any person to any place, structure, or building, or to any other person, with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that the purpose of such directing, taking, or transporting is prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(e) To offer to commit, or to commit, or to engage in, prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(f) To solicit, induce, entice, or procure another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(g) To reside in, enter, or remain in, any place, structure, or building, or to enter or remain in any conveyance, for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(h) To aid, abet, or participate in any of the acts or things enumerated in this subsection.
(i) To purchase the services of any person engaged in prostitution."

Hard Working 19
05-22-08, 18:20
After corresponding with another member here I have a few concerns and a few questions maybe someone can answer. How do you know what these letters are after a charge say like

796.08(5)/F--- PROSTITUTION (HIV POSITIVE)
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796.07(2)(E)/M---VOP PROSTITUTION

Remember just the letters after the 08 & 07 is what Im curious to know what they mean.
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I have now learned that 796.08 is that we all should stay clear of any woman arrested for this as HIV is very likely. Just for your own sake of not wanting to catch anything unwanted.

If anyone knows that they mean please let me know either by PM or on the board as I think its very important we share this info.

The numbers you are seeing are the Florida statute that they violated and were arrested under. Go to: http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0796/titl0796.htm&StatuteYear=2007&Title=%2D%3E2007%2D%3EChapter%20796 and click on 796.08 for a full description of the statute. There you will find the subsections (5) (f).

Nemodc
05-22-08, 21:57
some research and analysis and I will clear it all up in the next couple days.

Nemo

Norqueen
05-24-08, 03:19
I would just like to add when someone is arrested for prostituiton, as a part of the booking procedure you have to see the nurse and get tested for HIV right there and then. Now remember this. It takes a while before the results comes back, if it is positive it will be added to the charge later. We can therefore not see it the same day on the arrests sites if they have HIV or not.

Sometimes the informaiton is there the first day because she provided the information she is hiv positive at the time of the arrest/the time she sees the nurse, or they already got it in their files from before.

I also want to mention there are LOTS of hiv positive SW around, I can name a few in Saint Pete from my spa days where a good number of girls (druggies) ended up on the street (sad). But I'm sure their name has changed from then to now and I haven't seen them in years. And I hear from people that has seen them walking the streets. And I read your post sometimes and know who you talk about about. Many are not healthy (hepatatis and hiv) and they haven't been for years. But thats the risk you take guys chasing those type of girls, and I'm sure you know this very well so who am I to lecture grown men. Anyways, just thought I would comment on this and share my info, thanks.

SteelThunder
05-24-08, 14:12
I would just like to add when someone is arrested for prostituiton, as a part of the booking procedure you have to see the nurse and get tested for HIV right there and then. Now remember this. It takes a while before the results comes back, if it is positive it will be added to the charge later. We can therefore not see it the same day on the arrests sites if they have HIV or not.

Sometimes the informaiton is there the first day because she provided the information she is hiv positive at the time of the arrest/the time she sees the nurse, or they already got it in their files from before.

I also want to mention there are LOTS of hiv positive SW around, I can name a few in Saint Pete from my spa days where a good number of girls (druggies) ended up on the street (sad). But I'm sure their name has changed from then to now and I haven't seen them in years. And I hear from people that has seen them walking the streets. And I read your post sometimes and know who you talk about about. Many are not healthy (hepatatis and hiv) and they haven't been for years. But thats the risk you take guys chasing those type of girls, and I'm sure you know this very well so who am I to lecture grown men. Anyways, just thought I would comment on this and share my info, thanks.

All SW arrested for prostitution do get screened for STD's and HIV as part of the process in Pinellas and Hillsborough. However, a SW does not get HIV positive added to the rap sheet if they test her and they find out after the arrest that she is HIV positive. The statute refers to someone who knows they have HIV and they still engage in prostitution (ie they get arrested again for prostitution). It would be nice if they would add the information to an arrest report as soon as it is revealed, but that is not the law. Someone cannot be charged under the HIV transmission statute unless they have already been informed previously that they have HIV and still are engaging in prostitution.

Also, if you can name a few SW with HIV with 100% certainty, it would be beneficial to the members of this board to share that information. Name changes or not, sharing the knowledge you do have would be appreciated by the users of the board, especially if you read our posts and "know who we are talking about (assuming that you are inferring that you know these specific girls are sick)."

Also, it should be noted that "if there are LOTS of SW with HIV", I do find it odd that there are rarely HIV charges under the felony statute as part of an arrest sheet. Over the past year I can only think of four individuals who have been charged in Hillsborough and Pinellas combined as such. That is a pretty small number when put up against all the arrests for the crime that have been made in the same time frame in the Tampa Bay area.


Lastly, I started a thread for HIV+ providers over in Pinellas so we can add information as it becomes available just like we do in the Tampa forum and keep it isolated out of the General Reports section on a go forward basis.

Best of Luck.

Norqueen
05-26-08, 20:51
All SW arrested for prostitution do get screened for STD's and HIV as part of the process in Pinellas and Hillsborough. However, a SW does not get HIV positive added to the rap sheet if they test her and they find out after the arrest that she is HIV positive. The statute refers to someone who knows they have HIV and they still engage in prostitution (ie they get arrested again for prostitution). It would be nice if they would add the information to an arrest report as soon as it is revealed, but that is not the law. Someone cannot be charged under the HIV transmission statute unless they have already been informed previously that they have HIV and still are engaging in prostitution.

Also, if you can name a few SW with HIV with 100% certainty, it would be beneficial to the members of this board to share that information. Name changes or not, sharing the knowledge you do have would be appreciated by the users of the board, especially if you read our posts and "know who we are talking about (assuming that you are inferring that you know these specific girls are sick)."

Also, it should be noted that "if there are LOTS of SW with HIV", I do find it odd that there are rarely HIV charges under the felony statute as part of an arrest sheet. Over the past year I can only think of four individuals who have been charged in Hillsborough and Pinellas combined as such. That is a pretty small number when put up against all the arrests for the crime that have been made in the same time frame in the Tampa Bay area.

Lastly, I started a thread for HIV+ providers over in Pinellas so we can add information as it becomes available just like we do in the Tampa forum and keep it isolated out of the General Reports section on a go forward basis.

Best of Luck.I was told by a valuable source this is how it is done. If it's wrong then I'm sorry for the post.

Also I spoke to a provider that had to come back for re check since her test came back inconclusive and the procedure in this case (tampa) was to come back and be re checked to make sure of the result. It took more than a month before she got the initial results back and then got the message to come back in again.

I did not know all STD's was checked when arrested for prostitution, might be true, was always told about hiv.

R Consultant
05-28-08, 00:25
At least where getting two views and collecting information so we all know whats going on better than we did before. I know I want sure myself and Im happy to hear anything on this subject that will help me make an informed choice. Thanks to all that have PM and posted whatever information they have on this subject. Even names of providers would be nice and to post them in Steel's new thread would be really appreciated.


Happy Hunting..

Retired Gfe
06-11-08, 16:58
My computer crashed. If you have any pics of me that you can email to me, since I lost my files, please PM me! Please don't post them here, just PM me or email me if you already know my email addy!

Thanks!

L

Xtraveler G
06-13-08, 14:36
My buddy, still smarting over his Atlanta Craiglist "beating", but still holding out hope that there are hidden stories out in the wild waiting to be told decided to alter his tactics. Per the stories here, it seems that a variety of themes abound. From the 'chance encounter', to the 'well-financed campaigns'. He decided on an 'old wives tail' - the proverbial 'Mrs. Robinson'....in his case, a former 'Mrs. Robinson'.

Our story begins with our 'HERO' perusing the offerings of the Tampa Backpage. HERO chanced upon several entrees fitting his initial criteria - female, age, description, presentation and price, and HERO selected an offering that intrigued him about 'deestressed'. Though HERO's other criteria were not directly met through this offering, with dogged determination, HERO found the remaining information that conformed to his criteria. Based on this collection of information HERO decided to set an appointment with said 'Mrs. Robinson'.

The initial contact was quite painless - easy to converse with, and verbal confirmation of his/her specific, and particular expectations. A reservation was set, and preparations were made.

At the appointed dessert hour, HERO and 'Mrs. Robinson' retired to the boudoir, where she enjoyed an aged loin of beef with hollandaise sauce. An offering of sole was proffered, but declined by HERO. After a brief respite, they both participated in the preparation of a standard sunny side egg - over medium, butter on the toast, but hold the hash browns!!!

At the conclusion of the meal, HERO and 'Mrs. Robinson' left well-fed and satiated. This meal has been reviewed, and despite the years, she's an 'oldie but a goodie'.

Though this story won't win a Pulitzer, one can categorize it as an 'old wives tail'.

Clinton Bush
06-14-08, 15:04
My buddy, still smarting over his Atlanta Craiglist "beating", but still holding out hope that there are hidden stories out in the wild waiting to be told decided to alter his tactics. Per the stories here, it seems that a variety of themes abound. From the 'chance encounter', to the 'well-financed campaigns'. He decided on an 'old wives tail' - the proverbial 'Mrs. Robinson'....in his case, a former 'Mrs. Robinson'.

Our story begins with our 'HERO' perusing the offerings of the Tampa Backpage. HERO chanced upon several entrees fitting his initial criteria - female, age, description, presentation and price, and HERO selected an offering that intrigued him about 'deestressed'. Though HERO's other criteria were not directly met through this offering, with dogged determination, HERO found the remaining information that conformed to his criteria. Based on this collection of information HERO decided to set an appointment with said 'Mrs. Robinson'.

The initial contact was quite painless - easy to converse with, and verbal confirmation of his/her specific, and particular expectations. A reservation was set, and preparations were made.

At the appointed dessert hour, HERO and 'Mrs. Robinson' retired to the boudoir, where she enjoyed an aged loin of beef with hollandaise sauce. An offering of sole was proffered, but declined by HERO. After a brief respite, they both participated in the preparation of a standard sunny side egg - over medium, butter on the toast, but hold the hash browns!!!

At the conclusion of the meal, HERO and 'Mrs. Robinson' left well-fed and satiated. This meal has been reviewed, and despite the years, she's an 'oldie but a goodie'.

Though this story won't win a Pulitzer, one can categorize it as an 'old wives tail'.

But now I'm hungry for a grand slam. I'm off to Denny's now... LOL

CB

R Consultant
06-14-08, 21:49
You have a great imagination and way with words. I think since CB is heading to Dennys--Im going to Village Inn tonight for a pie and then to Bob Evans in the morning for some eggs and pancakes.
We all like a little sunny side up in the morning..
Happy Hunting..



My buddy, still smarting over his Atlanta Craiglist "beating", but still holding out hope that there are hidden stories out in the wild waiting to be told decided to alter his tactics. Per the stories here, it seems that a variety of themes abound. From the 'chance encounter', to the 'well-financed campaigns'. He decided on an 'old wives tail' - the proverbial 'Mrs. Robinson'....in his case, a former 'Mrs. Robinson'.

Our story begins with our 'HERO' perusing the offerings of the Tampa Backpage. HERO chanced upon several entrees fitting his initial criteria - female, age, description, presentation and price, and HERO selected an offering that intrigued him about 'deestressed'. Though HERO's other criteria were not directly met through this offering, with dogged determination, HERO found the remaining information that conformed to his criteria. Based on this collection of information HERO decided to set an appointment with said 'Mrs. Robinson'.

The initial contact was quite painless - easy to converse with, and verbal confirmation of his/her specific, and particular expectations. A reservation was set, and preparations were made.

At the appointed dessert hour, HERO and 'Mrs. Robinson' retired to the boudoir, where she enjoyed an aged loin of beef with hollandaise sauce. An offering of sole was proffered, but declined by HERO. After a brief respite, they both participated in the preparation of a standard sunny side egg - over medium, butter on the toast, but hold the hash browns!!!

At the conclusion of the meal, HERO and 'Mrs. Robinson' left well-fed and satiated. This meal has been reviewed, and despite the years, she's an 'oldie but a goodie'.

Though this story won't win a Pulitzer, one can categorize it as an 'old wives tail'.

R Consultant
07-04-08, 19:49
Happy Independence to all of you. Its a day we should all remember why we have the rights we do have and why we are in America. Thanks to all the veterans and current soldiers who have given so much to this great country.

Happy 4th Everyone!!!!

Lolligagger
07-05-08, 01:48
Happy Independence to all of you. Its a day we should all remember why we have the rights we do have and why we are in America. Thanks to all the veterans and current soldiers who have given so much to this great country.

Happy 4th Everyone!!!!I wish two consenting adults had the rights to have sex without being locked up, like they do in so many other countries.

Roariexxx
07-07-08, 15:53
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Cheesy Rider
07-09-08, 16:40
Has anybody been to that place yet? Their web site says the one-time entry fee is $25 or $50 for a membership. The whole bondage thing doesn't doesn't do much for me other than curiosity. Nudity is allowed right off the bat, so that sparked my interest.

R Consultant
07-10-08, 03:11
If your thinking its a swinger setup then your going about it wrong. You really need to be more into the D/s thing and similar bondage if you want to attend. Since thats most of what your going to get. I wouldnt want you to think its just a big gang bang.

Happy Hunting..


Has anybody been to that place yet? Their web site says the one-time entry fee is $25 or $50 for a membership. The whole bondage thing doesn't doesn't do much for me other than curiosity. Nudity is allowed right off the bat, so that sparked my interest.

R Consultant
07-20-08, 05:16
Well Miss P Valley aka NGH was bringing out the old soup bones around 1am this morning with a simple battery action. Its surprising that anyone would want to deal with the nutcase. Take a look and see the nice little shiner she has on the left eye. I guess she will be at the steel bar hotel for a few days.


Happy Hunting..

Nemodc
07-22-08, 02:16
http://escorts.com/viewprofile.asp?m=2396712


escorts dot com, clearwater, italianbella23

if real, hot lady, awesome rates!

Nemo

R Consultant
07-26-08, 05:15
Well it looks like they as in LE are targeting our local playground. BTC is in the happy go lucky hotel. Now Biancas mom is in there. I have to say shes down right scary looking. I have never seen her without the towel wrapped around her. She was like a traveling bedspread.

I think we should all pay attention our it wont be a happy days ahead. That law they reinstated seems to say they mean serious business.

Happy Hunting..

Flagolfer
08-21-08, 13:05
Hello Gents, a newbie here.

I am bit of chicken to chase the street scene, especially after reading some of your experiences. And not much of SPA either, but I do like the Sensual massage with Happy endings. Grins

Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance

Member #5237
08-21-08, 21:57
Hello Gents, a newbie here.

I am bit of chicken to chase the street scene, especially after reading some of your experiences. And not much of SPA either, but I do like the Sensual massage with Happy endings. Grins

Any recommendations?

Thanks in advanceYou say you are not into the street scene or Spas but you want the happy ending. My suggestion: Go to Publix, buy some jergens hand cream, and introduce yourself to Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters. Or get married. LOL

Jackmeoff
08-22-08, 09:43
Early Wednesday morning I hit 34th from Park to 22nd So. Each SW I saw had a pair of officers interrogating them. So I gave up and returned around 2:00 this morning. I happened across "Jen" at the Hess across from Tina's Angels. Nice looking blonde, 5'8 big breasted. After small talk and avoiding heavy LEO activity, I discovered her real name was Chris H. Fresh out of finishing school, with some extra weight in all the right places. But it wont last long since she's hitting the pipe hard.

She does carry herself well and had it not been the wee hours of the morning on that great street, I may not have noticed her. She's sharing a room with another WSW, just north of the city limits.


Well it looks like they as in LE are targeting our local playground. BTC is in the happy go lucky hotel. Now Biancas mom is in there. I have to say shes down right scary looking. I have never seen her without the towel wrapped around her. She was like a traveling bedspread.

I think we should all pay attention our it wont be a happy days ahead. That law they reinstated seems to say they mean serious business.

Happy Hunting..

Flagolfer
08-22-08, 12:59
You say you are not into the street scene or Spas but you want the happy ending. My suggestion: Go to Publix, buy some jergens hand cream, and introduce yourself to Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters. Or get married. LOL
Lmao, speedracer, thanks for your humor. I often at desperate times, I do use the services of 5 sisters, yes. However, having an excellent massage and to top if off with Happy Ending would be ideal for me. Uncle LEO is too much for me to watch out for over my shoulder in the streets. I have utilized the services of the ladies at 49th street and 5000 Park Blvd, and its good and useful at times. Its just my preferences that are FBSM that is all.

Thanks guys

Member #5237
08-22-08, 21:02
Lmao, speedracer, thanks for your humor. I often at desperate times, I do use the services of 5 sisters, yes. However, having an excellent massage and to top if off with Happy Ending would be ideal for me. Uncle LEO is too much for me to watch out for over my shoulder in the streets. I have utilized the services of the ladies at 49th street and 5000 Park Blvd, and its good and useful at times. Its just my preferences that are FBSM that is all.

Thanks guysOnce I stopped at a massage place on Park Blvd. It was a little place with the entrance facing a side street. I was greeted at the counter by a rough looking chick with tattoos on her arms. ( Is this 5000 Park Blvd ) ? Any good places in the area to get a HE? Also, you mentioned 49th street. What is that please?

R Consultant
08-23-08, 05:50
The place on 49st/park blvd-- has had many mixed reviews. I really think some girl places ads on here as a dude to drum up business. Since some ladies from other sites post here and other ones its a given they know about each site. I have read with back channeling that its a totally YMMV. So until I get more concrete results I dont to many guys who recommend it.

Happy Hunting..




Once I stopped at a massage place on Park Blvd. It was a little place with the entrance facing a side street. I was greeted at the counter by a rough looking chick with tattoos on her arms. ( Is this 5000 Park Blvd ) ? Any good places in the area to get a HE? Also, you mentioned 49th street. What is that please?

Eye Myt
08-23-08, 06:16
Once I stopped at a massage place on Park Blvd. It was a little place with the entrance facing a side street. I was greeted at the counter by a rough looking chick with tattoos on her arms. ( Is this 5000 Park Blvd ) ? Any good places in the area to get a HE? Also, you mentioned 49th street. What is that please?

I believe you'll find some reports on this place in the forum. I know Cinton-Bush has been there as well as some of us others. I like Tiny, chunky gal with above average hooters and a wicked sense of humor. She's up for most anything on a given day. YMMV.

Loafer Boat
08-23-08, 07:16
You say you are not into the street scene or Spas but you want the happy ending. My suggestion: Go to Publix, buy some jergens hand cream, and introduce yourself to Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters. Or get married. LOLGet Married? Isn't that when we waive goodbye to the happy ending?

Flagolfer
08-23-08, 11:10
Once I stopped at a massage place on Park Blvd. It was a little place with the entrance facing a side street. I was greeted at the counter by a rough looking chick with tattoos on her arms. ( Is this 5000 Park Blvd ) ? Any good places in the area to get a HE? Also, you mentioned 49th street. What is that please?Lol, just because the ladies have tatoo deoesnt always look "rough." Girls come and go but I recently had great time with Leslie. "two thumbs up!" And her friend (I havnt had the pleasure) Nina works together. A hottt Team.

Good luck,

Thanks guys

TotallyNormal
08-26-08, 16:36
I've seen, but not had the pleasure of being with, Leslie. She has lots of tats but Is quite attractive. She's the type you wouldn't see in a shop. Oh, but i plan to as soon as this economy picks up.

R Consultant
08-28-08, 20:32
This is more of a warning to all you cats. Tonight as I was taking my Rottweiler out to Gandy for some water action I decided to take the tour. If you travel over off 37st/52ave N be really careful at the stop sign. The D-boys that work out of the alley in that beat up old trailer that I figured the cops would have nailed them by now-- well they are worse than ever. These schmucks stepped right off the sidewalk in front of my truck and the side of me. Well I was like this is gonna be fun the dog started growling at the dude at my window. I honestly thought they wanted to car jack me. But thankfully my 151lb Rott is a real mean SOB to people he doesnt know.

They moved quick when they found out I had a nice doggy for company. So just be real careful in this area as the punks are going to rob somebody since they are all cracked out anyway. I noticed about 2-3 white guys and like 3 black guys and 2 white chicks. So theres a few of them over in the alley and in front of the house.

Just a heads up and be real careful if you travel this area.

Happy Hunting..

Gixxer1000
09-07-08, 10:46
I was in the mood for something different, so I gave this one a shot: http://tampa.backpage.com/NoStringsAttached/hotass_tittyfucking_blowjob_real_woman_with_real_titties_lol_w4m_29/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=985305

She advertises in the No Strings Attached section of backpage, and I guess I should have known better. The pictures looked good, and shes says all the right things in the ad.

I should have left when I got there and saw that she was clearly not the woman in the ad. She is extremely fat, now I love BBWs more than the average guy, but this woman was very, very fat. Probably pushing 250, and not a day younger than 40. To make it worse she is butt-ugly. She advertises that she looks like Anna Nicole when she definitely does not. Maybe Anna Nicole's grandma.

I took one for the team, and figured that if she even lives up to half the things she claims in the ad this might be OK. Well, it wasn't. I wasted $ on a rushed BJ from a hideously ugly old fat woman, and was promptly shooed out the door. So much for "leaving me stuttering and limp" as she claims.

I posted the pics in case she tries to use them again, they aren't her but might help to identify her ads. Don't be fooled.

Hollywood69
09-25-08, 14:41
Newbie here. Does anyone know anything about Monica Exotica?

I can't seem to find any reviews on this one.

She has incall only at a private estate home in St. Pete someplace.

Thanks. Hollywood

Blondehound
09-26-08, 01:58
If you mean her, I have never personally had the pleasure. I can say though that she has been using the same photos for at least 10 years.

I called her years ago because I was interested like 8 years ago and she was pretty rude on the phone with me when I asked about her hair color because she was posting pics that showed it more blonde.

So I decided she wasn't worth my time.

There have been plenty of bad postings on different boards about her rude attitude as well as upsell, not looking like her outdated photos. But as I said I am just going on what I have seen on boards over the years. She used to have reviews posted on her on the dog site.

I have a thing though agains't ladies who use old photos because each time I have partaken on one I know uses old ones, boy was I ever dissapointed with the looks when I arrived. Especially the ones who show light blonde photos and end up having brown hair when I meet them. I am actually starting to not be the nice guy that I used to be and tell them, update your photos when you change your hair color and I leave.

BH

SteelThunder
09-26-08, 14:25
If you mean her, I have never personally had the pleasure. I can say though that she has been using the same photos for at least 10 years.

I called her years ago because I was interested like 8 years ago and she was pretty rude on the phone with me when I asked about her hair color because she was posting pics that showed it more blonde.

So I decided she wasn't worth my time.

There have been plenty of bad postings on different boards about her rude attitude as well as upsell, not looking like her outdated photos. But as I said I am just going on what I have seen on boards over the years. She used to have reviews posted on her on the dog site.

I have a thing though agains't ladies who use old photos because each time I have partaken on one I know uses old ones, boy was I ever dissapointed with the looks when I arrived. Especially the ones who show light blonde photos and end up having brown hair when I meet them. I am actually starting to not be the nice guy that I used to be and tell them, update your photos when you change your hair color and I leave.

BH

While never having the experience, either, I do know someone who has--and it was a very expensive, very forgettable experience. BHound is right on the money with this girl. Save your dollars for someone else

Malabar
09-27-08, 08:29
Newbie here. Does anyone know anything about Monica Exotica?

I can't seem to find any reviews on this one.

She has incall only at a private estate home in St. Pete someplace.

Thanks. Hollywood

There is a M. Exotica AND a M. Erotica.

Erotica has a very ugly reputation. I have no experience with Exotica. You may have to take one for the team.

regards

Mal

Hollywood69
09-27-08, 13:30
There is a M. Exotica AND a M. Erotica.

Erotica has a very ugly reputation. I have no experience with Exotica. You may have to take one for the team.

Regards

MalThanks for the help everyone.

I will search elsewhere. Just a newbie down here don't know any good providers that are worth it I will just search reviews I guess and hope for the best. Thanks again everyone. Hollywood

Ericmcq
09-27-08, 15:24
...I will search elsewhere. Just a newbie down here don't know any good providers that are worth it I will just search reviews I guess and hope for the best. Thanks again everyone. HollywoodI'm fairly new at this as well. I'm not sure what you are into but I can tell you that I had a good experience with a lady out of Brandon (search "Erica Brandon" on CL. She doesn't post as often as many but she does provide full GFE without any hassles, etc.) I tried to hook up with her a second time last week but she was taking her dog to the vet when I called and wasn't available that afternoon. She is mid 30's, long dirty blonde hair, a couple of tats on her back, cute (but more average girl next door face that "knockout"). But she delivers as promised and actually was cool to talk with afterwards for a while. No clock watcher and no rush.

I've talked to a couple of other ladies that seem to be on the level. I usually try to check them out her or Tampa Verified, or Escort Review page or someplace. I've crossed a few off my list as not worth the gamble. But there are a couple that are on my list to give a try. I'm in Pinellas so going to Brandon was a drive, but I'm sometimes over there for work (and being across town minimizes the risk of running into anybody I know).

Well, from one newby to another, good luck and let us know about your success (and failures) so we can all learn from each other.

Cenflamonger
09-29-08, 09:46
These schmucks stepped right off the sidewalk in front of my truck and the side of me. .Thanks for the warning, R C.

The D-Boys are one of the biggest downers in this hobby. They are always whistling and shouting at me. I hate it when they come up to the car at the stop sign. When this happens, believe me, I dont stay stopped for long.

A few years ago, the D-Boys would come up to my car. They aren't doing that much anymore. Just the shouting and whistling.

I am always curious how people manage to get pulled out of cars by unarmed thugs on foot. (Remember the LA riots?) A car is your best self-defense weapon.

It's funny that one of the men that rushed your car stood IN FRONT of your truck in order to stop it. If things got nasty - your exit route is straight ahead.

Peter Rammer
09-29-08, 14:47
Thanks for the warning, R C.

The D-Boys are one of the biggest downers in this hobby. They are always whistling and shouting at me. I hate it when they come up to the car at the stop sign. When this happens, believe me, I dont stay stopped for long.

A few years ago, the D-Boys would come up to my car. They aren't doing that much anymore. Just the shouting and whistling.

I am always curious how people manage to get pulled out of cars by unarmed thugs on foot. (Remember the LA riots?) A car is your best self-defense weapon.

It's funny that one of the men that rushed your car stood IN FRONT of your truck in order to stop it. If things got nasty - your exit route is straight ahead.Yeah, but it's not just db's who might wanna 'jack' you! I've had assholes try to 'jack' me 3 different times. Once in Florida and twice in Bronx, NY. I think they were all just assholes, but not db's.

You're right about your vehicle being an excellent defense/weapon. Even when I park with a chick, my van is still running just in case? I wouldn't think twice about plowing someone who sneaks up on me. Except Leo! Of course, you've have to have your doors locked and a back up plan as well. You NEVER wanna lose control of the situation.

Stay safe!