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Jayp80
10-23-17, 18:38
Welcome back Bob.

Glad to hear everything's going good.

-w.Try coinbase com they allow PayPal purchases of bitcoin. You can say I want $20 USD of bitcoin or. 00005 bitcoins. Coinbase charges a fee obviously.

Bob521
10-23-17, 22:50
I appreciate the help.


Try coinbase com they allow PayPal purchases of bitcoin. You can say I want $20 USD of bitcoin or. 00005 bitcoins. Coinbase charges a fee obviously.

Adrick Ian
10-23-17, 23:37
If anybody knows how to use bitcoin4 backpage to advertise on Backpage that would be helpful. I tried by buying a Walmart gift card (per their instructions) but nothing happened.
I've been involved with Bitcoin since 2012. I'd be happy to help you out, just send me a message. Perhaps we can get together for lunch sometime and talk about it.

As Jayp80 mentioned, Coinbase is a very reliable source for bitcoins. The fee they charge for providing their service is approximately 2%. Be aware though that they do want you to go to quite a bit of effort to prove your identity.

Another good option in the Chicagoland area is LocationBitcoins. There are several reliable and active bitcoin sellers in the area. You can meet up with a seller in a safe location and exchange cash for the bitcoins. It's a much better method if maintaining your privacy is important to you, but that convenience and privacy come with a price. You'll pay more for the bitcoins than you would at Coinbase. It also comes with some risk that the seller will turn out to be a scammer or thief.

There are a few other online exchanges (such as Bitfinex and BitStamp) that each have their own benefits and drawbacks when it comes to security, privacy, cost, and convenience.

And if you don't want to bother with any of those options there are several ATM machines throughout the area that will accept cash and send you bitcoins. Generally, I'd stay away form those though. They tend to be your most expensive option.

Note: I'd be happy to help you get set up for accepting Bitcoins as payment in the store as well if you think that's a service your customers would appreciate. For that matter, I'd be happy to help you integrate Bitcoin into your Business Capital Raising business if you think there is an opportunity for you there.

Ron M
10-24-17, 02:04
Anything going on in the Joliet Area I would appreciate any info I never can find any action here.Check the Joliet board.

Rocket Dork
10-24-17, 17:09
FYI, 3 times this week, I have been asked for info. I couldn't answer answer any of them, their inbox was full. I am trying to give info!! Rocket Dork.

Bob521
10-26-17, 01:07
Thanks for your offer. Since we're legit we accept Visa, MC, etc and cash. I've never had a request to pay with Bitcoin. My main reason for the question was to place ads in Backpage. No credit card providers support them. For a long time their ads were free. They supposedly take something called bitcoin4 backpage (I think). Anyway, too much hassle.


I've been involved with Bitcoin since 2012. I'd be happy to help you out, just send me a message. Perhaps we can get together for lunch sometime and talk about it.

As Jayp80 mentioned, Coinbase is a very reliable source for bitcoins. The fee they charge for providing their service is approximately 2%. Be aware though that they do want you to go to quite a bit of effort to prove your identity.

Another good option in the Chicagoland area is LocationBitcoins. There are several reliable and active bitcoin sellers in the area. You can meet up with a seller in a safe location and exchange cash for the bitcoins. It's a much better method if maintaining your privacy is important to you, but that convenience and privacy come with a price. You'll pay more for the bitcoins than you would at Coinbase. It also comes with some risk that the seller will turn out to be a scammer or thief.

There are a few other online exchanges (such as Bitfinex and BitStamp) that each have their own benefits and drawbacks when it comes to security, privacy, cost, and convenience.

And if you don't want to bother with any of those options there are several ATM machines throughout the area that will accept cash and send you bitcoins. Generally, I'd stay away form those though. They tend to be your most expensive option.

Note: I'd be happy to help you get set up for accepting Bitcoins as payment in the store as well if you think that's a service your customers would appreciate. For that matter, I'd be happy to help you integrate Bitcoin into your Business Capital Raising business if you think there is an opportunity for you there.

Adrick Ian
10-26-17, 08:32
Lots of legitimate businesses accept Bitcoin (Travelocity, Overstock, Newegg, Dish Satellite TV, etc). For the customer, it's a much safer option of electronic payment than credit cards (no concern about fraudulent use of your credit card number), and for the merchant it eliminates counter-party risk (charge backs, stolen cards, etc). Also, in many cases, it can have cheaper transaction fees than credit cards.

Backpage does accept regular bitcoin transactions. They don't require you to use "bitcoin4backpage", whatever that is. Acquiring your first bitcoin to use is a bit of a hassle, but once you've done that it is extremely easy to both spend and receive.

Anyhow, keep me in mind if you ever decide to give it a try, or are interested in more information about it.


Thanks for your offer. Since we're legit we accept Visa, MC, etc and cash. I've never had a request to pay with Bitcoin. My main reason for the question was to place ads in Backpage. No credit card providers support them. For a long time their ads were free. They supposedly take something called bitcoin4 backpage (I think). Anyway, too much hassle.

Satriani
10-26-17, 09:32
There are many FKK Clubs in Germany I went to one. I paid 30 euros (about $35) to enter, this includes some food and soft drinks. I had to be informed of their ways. You get a locker downstairs. There are showers, large sauna and steam room. I was instructed to come back upstairs wearing only a towel and to put my wallet in another small locker (to be handy for paying). Women do not peruse you like at strip clubs. You make eye contact and signal interest. The first one I had offered 20 minutes of suck and fuck for 30 Euros upstairs. She was Romanian about 21 and looked great. You pay after the fact. These girls walk around in lingerie or less. Up next was another beautiful Romanian who had the same offer. The only difference for all the girls is how long you want company. Another 20 min. Another 30. So all in all it cost me about $105 for time with 2 beautiful naked women. Good thing they are not available here or I'd be broke.

Riina
10-26-17, 12:41
https://www.mamba.ru/search.phtml

I just wanted to mention this dating website is used by our local Ukrainian and Russian ladies. Some of the former girls at 262 have used it. To be honest, I haven't had a bite on it in over two years. But I'm almost fifty and have just average looks. It's free, no need to pay for VIP membership. I just sent a former 262 girl a message. $X? She'll probably block me. Hehe.

Bob521
10-27-17, 08:17
I appreciate the offer. Let me think about it.


Lots of legitimate businesses accept Bitcoin (Travelocity, Overstock, Newegg, Dish Satellite TV, etc). For the customer, it's a much safer option of electronic payment than credit cards (no concern about fraudulent use of your credit card number), and for the merchant it eliminates counter-party risk (charge backs, stolen cards, etc). Also, in many cases, it can have cheaper transaction fees than credit cards.

Backpage does accept regular bitcoin transactions. They don't require you to use "bitcoin4backpage", whatever that is. Acquiring your first bitcoin to use is a bit of a hassle, but once you've done that it is extremely easy to both spend and receive.

Anyhow, keep me in mind if you ever decide to give it a try, or are interested in more information about it.

Gary Man
10-27-17, 22:45
There are many FKK Clubs in Germany I went to one.Begs 2 questions: Which FKK? And Where in Germany?

Sampso
10-31-17, 13:14
Too many red flags with a couple of different numbers I contacted in northbrook today. Anybody going to the crowne plaza on milwaulkee please be on high alert if you decide to test the waters. I'd suggest taking a pass. Better safe than sorry!

Stay safe!

FruitNinja
10-31-17, 13:54
Begs 2 questions: Which FKK? And Where in Germany?Google is you friend.

http://www.fkkclubsgermany.com/fkk-club-locations-in-germany/

They are all about the same or at least the handful I went to. There are also Spas in Austria that work the same way. As usual YMMV. Depends on girl, time of day, your negotiating skills. Last one I went to I did three different girls in one day.

Satriani
11-01-17, 10:00
The one I went to was in Cologne. They are easy to locate on line and all cab drivers seem to know how to get there like they've driven there many times.


Google is you friend.

http://www.fkkclubsgermany.com/fkk-club-locations-in-germany/

They are all about the same or at least the handful I went to. There are also Spas in Austria that work the same way. As usual YMMV. Depends on girl, time of day, your negotiating skills. Last one I went to I did three different girls in one day.

JPother100
11-02-17, 13:53
First off, sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I could not start a thread below.

Wondering if anyone has info on deals for a prepaid phone. Target recently stopped carrying the regular TracPhone phones b / c Trac is moving toward data plans. I am obviously not looking for a monthly fee data plan. Just looking for a pay as I go minutes plan.

Do these even exist anymore?

Thanks.

Sam Singer
11-04-17, 18:29
First off, sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I could not start a thread below.

Wondering if anyone has info on deals for a prepaid phone. Target recently stopped carrying the regular TracPhone phones b / c Trac is moving toward data plans. I am obviously not looking for a monthly fee data plan. Just looking for a pay as I go minutes plan.

Do these even exist anymore?

Thanks.https://www.h2owirelessnow.com/mainControl.php?page=planMin

Minimum is $10 which expires in 3 months. So minimum is $40 a year which is the lowest I have seen. You can bring your phone or buy their phone. Best Buy carries their SIM cards for $10.

GreatGatsby
11-05-17, 01:33
https://www.h2owirelessnow.com/mainControl.php?page=planMin

Minimum is $10 which expires in 3 months. So minimum is $40 a year which is the lowest I have seen. You can bring your phone or buy their phone. Best Buy carries their SIM cards for $10.Can't you just use Google Voice with a created gmail address?

FirstTimer7
11-05-17, 02:50
Can't you just use Google Voice with a created gmail address?I am also using this too. However I believe you need an authentic number to get a gv # for the setup. I created a gv # using a burner phone # and then cancelled the burner phone. Although the drawback for that is you cannot receive incoming calls. Outgoing and texting is still good if you have data (hotspot from you primary phone). If you are not afraid of attaching your primary #, then you shouldn't have incoming call issues. No fees.

Bob521
11-06-17, 01:31
I have two Google Voice Accounts. One for my business and one for the store. My phone (Huawei Honor 5 / $200) takes two SIM cards. But actually, I forward the second line to my Hangouts account. So I can send / receive calls using Hangouts. I also have a Talkatone VOIP telephone number. (Free). Now all that said, while these phone numbers can insulate you from callbacks from people you call. The biggest drawback is if someone (wife?) gets ahold pf your phone. Its a lot of work erasing your tracks every day.


I am also using this too. However I believe you need an authentic number to get a gv # for the setup. I created a gv # using a burner phone # and then cancelled the burner phone. Although the drawback for that is you cannot receive incoming calls. Outgoing and texting is still good if you have data (hotspot from you primary phone). If you are not afraid of attaching your primary #, then you shouldn't have incoming call issues. No fees.

GreatGatsby
11-06-17, 03:00
I have two Google Voice Accounts. One for my business and one for the store. My phone (Huawei Honor 5 / $200) takes two SIM cards. But actually, I forward the second line to my Hangouts account. So I can send / receive calls using Hangouts. I also have a Talkatone VOIP telephone number. (Free). Now all that said, while these phone numbers can insulate you from callbacks from people you call. The biggest drawback is if someone (wife?) gets ahold pf your phone. Its a lot of work erasing your tracks every day.I am single and no need to worry about gf / wife issues just yet. My main concern is if somehow a provider I see gets busted, and LEO tracking my # down. I'm not sure how possible this is, but I wouldn't say it is impossible. Then I would be a disgrace to my family and friends.

GG.

FirstTimer7
11-06-17, 03:01
I have two Google Voice Accounts. One for my business and one for the store. My phone (Huawei Honor 5 / $200) takes two SIM cards. But actually, I forward the second line to my Hangouts account. So I can send / receive calls using Hangouts. I also have a Talkatone VOIP telephone number. (Free). Now all that said, while these phone numbers can insulate you from callbacks from people you call. The biggest drawback is if someone (wife?) gets ahold pf your phone. Its a lot of work erasing your tracks every day.Thats why I have a separate phone. You can make an excuse that its your phone for games / maps / music. If on android, there a good app called nova launcher where you can hide your hangouts / voice app or any app you want. Although you still need to be careful with emails if your are forwarding calls to email too.

SportingLife
11-06-17, 03:25
Oase outside of Frankfurt was amazing. A huge mansion full of hot morally flexible women. I did a self guided tour and hit 6 of these places starting in Amsterdam red light through Frankfurt.

Pascha in Cologne was a must see. A 12 story building with every kind of perversion that you could want. From their wiki page.

With about 120 prostitutes, over 80 employees and up to 1000 customers per day, it is the largest brothel in Europe August 2005: two women, 19 and 29 years old, had rented two rooms in the Pascha and announced over the internet that they would pay any man 50 Euros for sex; the goal was to find out who could have more partners in one day. In the end they had sex for 11 hours with a total of 115 men, and about 1,700 others had to be turned away.

The brothel advertises a money-back guarantee in the case of unsatisfactory service by a woman. I don't know about that. Every limp dick in the world would be wanting a refund. LOL.


The one I went to was in Cologne. They are easy to locate on line and all cab drivers seem to know how to get there like they've driven there many times.

StanleyStankas
11-06-17, 12:26
Oase outside of Frankfurt was amazing. A huge mansion full of hot morally flexible women. I did a self guided tour and hit 6 of these places starting in Amsterdam red light through Frankfurt.

Pascha in Cologne was a must see. A 12 story building with every kind of perversion that you could want. From their wiki page.

With about 120 prostitutes, over 80 employees and up to 1000 customers per day, it is the largest brothel in Europe August 2005: two women, 19 and 29 years old, had rented two rooms in the Pascha and announced over the internet that they would pay any man 50 Euros for sex; the goal was to find out who could have more partners in one day. In the end they had sex for 11 hours with a total of 115 men, and about 1,700 others had to be turned away.

The brothel advertises a money-back guarantee in the case of unsatisfactory service by a woman. I don't know about that. Every limp dick in the world would be wanting a refund. LOL.Renewed my passport and it's about time I packed a bag! Good intel and most appreciated by a senior citizen that still gets horny for the youngin's!

Northside Jim
11-27-17, 10:22
I found a girl on Craigslist whom I 99% sure isn't le (you can never be 100% sure)& set up a meeting in a motel in the south suburbs.

I arrived on time and as I texted "I'm here, are you ready" on my burner phone 1 marked and 1 unmarked le vehicles pull up right next to me. My heart skips a beat and my phone is vibrating with the message "Yes, come up. ".

One of the plain clothes leos gets out of the passenger side door of the unmarked car and gives me a hard stare. I start my car and back out without even putting my seatbelt back on.

I drive a few blocks away & text her that I saw cops and am leaving.

She replys that she can't see them from her room, which I believe because I was at the side of the building.

I don't even want to drive by in case they recognize my car & pull me over & there's no good spot for me to sit and watch them.

I wait a while & drive by the cross street and they're still there. I do the same a bit later & they're gone. By then our appointment time was over, she was busy & I left.

My understanding is that if I got out of my car and acted like I belonged there they could still stop me and ask me what I was doing. I don't know the girl's real name & I was way out of my neighborhood. If the motel is known for prostitution, could I have been arrested? I know they can arrest you for anything & it might not stick but would they have had case here?

StanleyStankas
11-27-17, 11:56
I found a girl on Craigslist whom I 99% sure isn't le (you can never be 100% sure)& set up a meeting in a motel in the south suburbs.

I arrived on time and as I texted "I'm here, are you ready" on my burner phone 1 marked and 1 unmarked le vehicles pull up right next to me. My heart skips a beat and my phone is vibrating with the message "Yes, come up. ".

One of the plain clothes leos gets out of the passenger side door of the unmarked car and gives me a hard stare. I start my car and back out without even putting my seatbelt back on.

I drive a few blocks away & text her that I saw cops and am leaving.

She replys that she can't see them from her room, which I believe because I was at the side of the building.

I don't even want to drive by in case they recognize my car & pull me over & there's no good spot for me to sit and watch them.

I wait a while & drive by the cross street and they're still there. I do the same a bit later & they're gone. By then our appointment time was over, she was busy & I left.

My understanding is that if I got out of my car and acted like I belonged there they could still stop me and ask me what I was doing. I don't know the girl's real name & I was way out of my neighborhood. If the motel is known for prostitution, could I have been arrested? I know they can arrest you for anything & it might not stick but would they have had case here?And don't even play one on a new teality tv show, however some experts here will chime in. Imo- you could get stopped for cruising in the area. The locals would have the right to stop you and ask for I. D proof of insurance, current dl, etc if they felt you were in the process. I am sure they I. D'd you anyway and ran your plate, however if you left quickly they thought they spooked you. Lots of the escort sites have legal advise if I recall. The erotic review had some in the past. Browse around and if you find something pertinent please post.

Member #1117
11-27-17, 13:06
And don't even play one on a new teality tv show, however some experts here will chime in. Imo- you could get stopped for cruising in the area. The locals would have the right to stop you and ask for I. D proof of insurance, current dl, etc if they felt you were in the process. I am sure they I. D'd you anyway and ran your plate, however if you left quickly they thought they spooked you. Lots of the escort sites have legal advise if I recall. The erotic review had some in the past. Browse around and if you find something pertinent please post.Here is the thing. There are a lot of things that cops do that aren't legal. You just have to have the means to fight it in court. Also, they know once they put your name and mugshot out there, especially if you are a family man, you will want to get it taken care of immediately. By picking out guys that look like they don't have much money or look like they wouldn't fight back due to fear, these guys are like shooting fish in a barrel for cops. They aren't going to have the money to fight if their rights were violated and they don't want to deal with the shame or publicity if they do fight.

Back in the day in Detroit, they would impound your car by just being at the wrong place (stopped at a corner with a known person standing there) and wrong time. You didn't even have to do anything. It was the cops word against yours and sometimes they would sweeten the deal for the known walker to cooperate with them. All the sudden, tow truck comes and impounds your car leaving you on the street. You have a 2 k fine to get car and a ticket for solicitation. Depending on circumstances, they could take you to the station, take your picture and of course post it on their website and John's TV. This was all based on the cops and was a total money grab for the city. Everyone knew it but it made the cops and DA the look like they were doing something. Most of what they were doing was trampling on the rights of the poor and weak. I think there were a few people who fought this and scored millions from the city. This was before the recession. During and after the recession, they barely had money to pay the cops so these types of scenarios stopped happening, as keeping the lights on became a bigger priority.

In a nutshell, never cooperate with the police. They want you to incriminate yourself. If you do get busted, have the money for an attorney. If you don't, you will get screwed in the end and most likely have your rights trampled and automatically be guilty.

Northside Jim
11-27-17, 14:11
Here is the thing. There are a lot of things that cops do that aren't legal. You just have to have the means to fight it in court. Also, they know once they put your name and mugshot out there, especially if you are a family man, you will want to get it taken care of immediately. By picking out guys that look like they don't have much money or look like they wouldn't fight back due to fear, these guys are like shooting fish in a barrel for cops. They aren't going to have the money to fight if their rights were violated and they don't want to deal with the shame or publicity if they do fight.

Back in the day in Detroit, they would impound your car by just being at the wrong place (stopped at a corner with a known person standing there) and wrong time. You didn't even have to do anything. It was the cops word against yours and sometimes they would sweeten the deal for the known walker to cooperate with them. All the sudden, tow truck comes and impounds your car leaving you on the street. You have a 2 k fine to get car and a ticket for solicitation. Depending on circumstances, they could take you to the station, take your picture and of course post it on their website and John's TV. This was all based on the cops and was a total money grab for the city. Everyone knew it but it made the cops and DA the look like they were doing something. Most of what they were doing was trampling on the rights of the poor and weak. I think there were a few people who fought this and scored millions from the city. This was before the recession. During and after the recession, they barely had money to pay the cops so these types of scenarios stopped happening, as keeping the lights on became a bigger priority.

In a nutshell, never cooperate with the police. They want you to incriminate yourself. If you do get busted, have the money for an attorney. If you don't, you will get screwed in the end and most likely have your rights trampled and automatically be guilty.I've always known that LE can arrest you for anything, that's a fact. Even if charges don't stick it could be disasterious for many mongers.

I'm hazy on wheather being there, without a valid reason, no name of a motel guest at a place known by LE to be shady could have been a legit arrest.

Fdottt
11-27-17, 20:55
I've always known that LE can arrest you for anything, that's a fact. Even if charges don't stick it could be disasterious for many mongers.

I'm hazy on wheather being there, without a valid reason, no name of a motel guest at a place known by LE to be shady could have been a legit arrest.I cannot see why LEO would arrest you for driving to a public area and getting out of your own vehicle. How do they know you're not meeting your girlfriend here or looking for a place to lodge for the night?

SteamTrain98
11-28-17, 16:48
I've noticed a rash of providers lately that are simply not screening. More often than not, these are BP girls, who don't necessarily have reviews, but initial research doesn't raise any red flags off the bat (pics check out on TinEye / Google image search, phone numbers come back associated to some recent posts and nothing really outdated, phone number also hasn't been used for lots of different providers). So, I reach out to get info on a session. I simply ask if they have any appointments available (nothing graphic or explicit). The girls don't immediately reply with rates (again, not setting off red flags), but will give amounts when I ask (again, w / o being specific for anything other than an hr or hh).

It's when I start asking what they need to confirm the appointment that things get uncomfortable. In the past, providers typically ask for references (other providers, agencies, P411, RS2 k, oThER sites whitelistings, etc.), but lately they're all just sending me the names / addresses of their incall location. When I ask if they want references, they tell me no need and to come over. Needless to say, I tell them I'm not comfortable with that and I need proof that they are who they say they are (a provider conducting a proper screening is just as much for my safety as theirs!) At this point, I usually get accused of being Uncle LEO or called a pussy / chickens**t / nerd, to which I reply how without reviews, I can't screen them. Most of these girls go off on how sites like this and the others listed above, are full of cops and are just bulls**t. This is when I usually block their numbers from my burner as they're either insane, or are LE themselves. I mean, I get it, to a legit provider, me asking for proof they are who they say they are can sound as if I'm setting them up, but if a provider doesn't get why not screening me is setting off alarm bells, then there's no point in continuing the conversation.

I guess what I'm trying to say by posting this is. Stay safe. Do your research, if a provider without reviews won't even screen you, something isn't right. Bottom line, remember to think with your big head, not your little one (as hard as that may be at times. Pun intended.).

Jayp80
11-28-17, 20:18
I cannot see why LEO would arrest you for driving to a public area and getting out of your own vehicle. How do they know you're not meeting your girlfriend here or looking for a place to lodge for the night?Ok, give us your gf's number and we'll call her to confirm your story.

Ok, why are you looking for a motel when your DL says Chicago / Burbs? Can you call someone to confirm why you can't sleep at home tonight?

Why did you park next to room 137 and not next to the management office?

Fdottt
11-28-17, 20:27
Ok, give us your gf's number and we'll call her to confirm your story.

Ok, why are you looking for a motel when your DL says Chicago / Burbs? Can you call someone to confirm why you can't sleep at home tonight?

Why did you park next to room 137 and not next to the management office?You're still not showing me what's illegal about pulling in to a motel. They may question / hassle you but they are not arresting you.

Reno411
11-28-17, 22:05
I was noticing this same thing, and it was freaking me out, I used to see whoever when I started hobbying, but now I save my coins to see sure things, its not worth the risk if its a sting or a pimp or just bad service. If she doesn't care about her safety, she probably doesn't care about anything else.

Jayp80
11-28-17, 22:47
You're still not showing me what's illegal about pulling in to a motel. They may question / hassle you but they are not arresting you.http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K11-18.htm

https://www.chicagocriminallawyer.pro/amp/prostitution.html

Patronizing a prostitute – This charge involves engaging in a sexual act with a prostitute or entering a location known as a place where prostitution occurs regularly while the intention of engaging in sexual penetration.

Ron M
11-28-17, 23:17
Ok, give us your gf's number and we'll call her to confirm your story.

Ok, why are you looking for a motel when your DL says Chicago / Burbs? Can you call someone to confirm why you can't sleep at home tonight?

Why did you park next to room 137 and not next to the management office?No. She's on her way here.

Because I'm too sleepy and tired to drive to my home.

Because there was no parking by the management office.

Fdottt
11-29-17, 08:04
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K11-18.htm

https://www.chicagocriminallawyer.pro/amp/prostitution.html

Patronizing a prostitute This charge involves engaging in a sexual act with a prostitute or entering a location known as a place where prostitution occurs regularly while the intention of engaging in sexual penetration.And they can determine that by me pulling my car into a public motel parking lot? Come on try again.

Randolph
11-29-17, 13:58
And they can determine that by me pulling my car into a public motel parking lot? Come on try again.You are totally innocent. You had no intention of banging the 19 yr old in room 147 who's been arrested 23 times before. You were just joking when you called her from your cell phone.

It doesn't matter. If they want to be assholes they will arrest you. They don't lose if, after 15-20 K to a crim def atty, you are eventually found innocent. If the prosecutor drops the charges before trial if the cops don't show up.

It doesn't matter to them. You are the one who got arrested.

The point is that it is not an unreasonable position to be slightly more cautious than slightly less.

Fdottt
11-29-17, 20:26
You are totally innocent. You had no intention of banging the 19 yr old in room 147 who's been arrested 23 times before. You were just joking when you called her from your cell phone.

It doesn't matter. If they want to be assholes they will arrest you. They don't lose if, after 15-20 K to a crim def atty, you are eventually found innocent. If the prosecutor drops the charges before trial if the cops don't show up.

It doesn't matter to them. You are the one who got arrested.

The point is that it is not an unreasonable position to be slightly more cautious than slightly less.I understand what you guys are saying but I am saying the simple act of driving into a motel parking lot is not enough for cops to drag you out your car and want to go through your phone history.

Not Dead Yet
11-29-17, 22:56
I understand what you guys are saying but I am saying the simple act of driving into a motel parking lot is not enough for cops to drag you out your car and want to go through your phone history.Only takes a few seconds to punch in a 4 or 6 digit password when you turn on the phone. No one else can get to your phone history, except maybe the Feds. One less thing to worry about.

Pepperoncini
11-29-17, 23:56
I do remember hearing or reading that the Supreme Court ruled they need a search warrant to access any info on your phone. My friend got busted years ago seeing someone who did not check refs. She got pinched, and got out of it by letting them bust guys who came to see her for 2 days. They did not much from his phone. They dialed the number that had been messaging her, and his phone rang.

I use a pre-paid phone for hobby. It's a T mobile. The sim card comes out. So when I get to the appointment I get the room info, and then take out the sim card and bury the phone in the glove compartment or glove compartment. So if they call that number, my phone does not react. I can claim I am in the wrong place. They could still of course harass or arrest me. I buy and sell some things on Craigslist. I would just say I got mixed up and am in the wrong place. Can I completely avoid the risk? No, but I do feel I am reducing the risk.

StanleyStankas
12-02-17, 11:59
I've always known that LE can arrest you for anything, that's a fact. Even if charges don't stick it could be disasterious for many mongers.

I'm hazy on wheather being there, without a valid reason, no name of a motel guest at a place known by LE to be shady could have been a legit arrest.When I go into downtown to get my mail I come down grand as I am out near the big airport these days. I see signs (in particular in front of jimmy's) that literally state no cruising as it's a known prostitute area. Now how that would stick in court again agreed one would need a good attorney that knows ones rights in those particular situation. A former customer of mine got ripped of in a hotel room out of town while at an industry convention. Typical "oh you're so big or good I need to call my gf to join in" routine. Anyway he bought the hook and of course they ripped his money and cc. Contacted authorities stating it was just a robbery and of course they reviewed the video and told him the culprits were known prostitutes. To press charges would have been an embarrassment for him so of course he ate the cash (around 2 k BTW) and got his cc money back by just saying his card was lost or stolen. So yea agree people are worried about their reps and uncle knows that!

StanleyStankas
12-02-17, 12:03
I do remember hearing or reading that the Supreme Court ruled they need a search warrant to access any info on your phone. My friend got busted years ago seeing someone who did not check refs. She got pinched, and got out of it by letting them bust guys who came to see her for 2 days. They did not much from his phone. They dialed the number that had been messaging her, and his phone rang.

I use a pre-paid phone for hobby. It's a T mobile. The sim card comes out. So when I get to the appointment I get the room info, and then take out the sim card and bury the phone in the glove compartment or glove compartment. So if they call that number, my phone does not react. I can claim I am in the wrong place. They could still of course harass or arrest me. I buy and sell some things on Craigslist. I would just say I got mixed up and am in the wrong place. Can I completely avoid the risk? No, but I do feel I am reducing the risk.And that is funny! She got off by throwing everyone under the bus! Point taken and that is what we all must remember this is the type of person we are requesting services from, period! They are all like that I am sure. If it's them or us guess who's going? Thanks for this and I really learn from our convos here.

Emiglio
12-02-17, 13:19
I do remember hearing or reading that the Supreme Court ruled they need a search warrant to access any info on your phone. My friend got busted years ago seeing someone who did not check refs. She got pinched, and got out of it by letting them bust guys who came to see her for 2 days. They did not much from his phone. They dialed the number that had been messaging her, and his phone rang.

I use a pre-paid phone for hobby. It's a T mobile. The sim card comes out. So when I get to the appointment I get the room info, and then take out the sim card and bury the phone in the glove compartment or glove compartment. So if they call that number, my phone does not react. I can claim I am in the wrong place. They could still of course harass or arrest me. I buy and sell some things on Craigslist. I would just say I got mixed up and am in the wrong place. Can I completely avoid the risk? No, but I do feel I am reducing the risk.Was it the one who lived near Des Plaines, or the lady who used to visit from Milwaukee? Both worked off their arrests.

Asps3
12-02-17, 16:21
This is the exact scenario that scares me the most. When known legit providers get turned into LE traps. There's no real good way to know.


I do remember hearing or reading that the Supreme Court ruled they need a search warrant to access any info on your phone. My friend got busted years ago seeing someone who did not check refs. She got pinched, and got out of it by letting them bust guys who came to see her for 2 days. They did not much from his phone. They dialed the number that had been messaging her, and his phone rang.

I use a pre-paid phone for hobby. It's a T mobile. The sim card comes out. So when I get to the appointment I get the room info, and then take out the sim card and bury the phone in the glove compartment or glove compartment. So if they call that number, my phone does not react. I can claim I am in the wrong place. They could still of course harass or arrest me. I buy and sell some things on Craigslist. I would just say I got mixed up and am in the wrong place. Can I completely avoid the risk? No, but I do feel I am reducing the risk.

Pepperoncini
12-03-17, 23:08
Was it the one who lived near Des Plaines, or the lady who used to visit from Milwaukee? Both worked off their arrests.Damn if I could remember her name right now. This originally happened near Detroit. She traveled here and advertised on the other board. I called her out in the open on that board. She was stupid enough to respond to it and acknowledge it happened. She did not take the blame and openly posted it was not her fault, and that no one checks refs. Other providers jumped all over her, and she looked really bad. Next thing I know she sent me a message saying I ran her out of Chicago. Good. We don't need shit like that. The only thing that would have been better, would be if could have gotten her busted while she was here. Was afraid that she would roll over again though and put some other poor guys in a pinch.

Bob521
12-04-17, 00:33
(1) Mei and I are looking to buy a couple foot massage sofas. New or used. If anybody knows someone that has two sofas to sell, I'd be interested. I know I can get a decent new sofa for $350 x 2 $300 shipping. I figure used / local should cost half that much.

(2) We are looking to add a second location. Ideally within 20 minutes of the Buffalo Grove store. Existing stores seem to be asking $20-$40 thousand. For the most part, none are really worth that much, since 90% are HE places and we are non-HE. We would not be able to retain the existing clients. So I'm willing to simple rent a space and build it out myself or hire some guys. I'll need to hire a couple reliable licensed LMTs. Preferably young, pretty, Chinese with good English and driver's license. (Yeah, I know I'm describing a unicorn.) I'm patient, and in no big hurry.

Thanks,

Bob.

Not Dead Yet
12-04-17, 00:44
(1) Mei and I are looking to buy a couple foot massage sofas. New or used. If anybody knows someone that has two sofas to sell, I'd be interested. I know I can get a decent new sofa for $350 x 2 $300 shipping. I figure used / local should cost half that much.

(2) We are looking to add a second location. Ideally within 20 minutes of the Buffalo Grove store. Existing stores seem to be asking $20-$40 thousand. For the most part, none are really worth that much, since 90% are HE places and we are non-HE. We would not be able to retain the existing clients. So I'm willing to simple rent a space and build it out myself or hire some guys. I'll need to hire a couple reliable licensed LMTs. Preferably young, pretty, Chinese with good English and driver's license. (Yeah, I know I'm describing a unicorn.) I'm patient, and in no big hurry.

Thanks,

Bob.Found an app called OfferUp that has a wide range of things for sale, including stuff like this and massage tables, etc. Very location specific, so easy to pickup. Might be good to know someone with a van.

Bob521
12-04-17, 00:48
Thanks. Good idea. Hey! You'd get a laugh out of the light box sign I built.


Found an app called OfferUp that has a wide range of things for sale, including stuff like this and massage tables, etc. Very location specific, so easy to pickup. Might be good to know someone with a van.

Mr Charmo
12-09-17, 22:29
Checking in, been a while, work and travel.

Trying to kick the tires and see what's what.

Maybe get a some people together to celebrate the holidays.

Mr Charmo
12-09-17, 22:56
Why not start this off right LOL.

Anyone want to get together with a white pawn friend. North side city, looking for 1 or 2 guys. Nonpro early 20's pawg.

Can make it tonight, or another day with more time to plan.

Cuto7
12-11-17, 02:37
I'm interested I'm in Northside of city as well. Thanks.


Why not start this off right LOL.

Anyone want to get together with a white pawn friend. North side city, looking for 1 or 2 guys. Nonpro early 20's pawg.

Can make it tonight, or another day with more time to plan.

PussyPoker
12-11-17, 09:18
Checking in, been a while, work and travel.

Trying to kick the tires and see what's what.

Maybe get a some people together to celebrate the holidays.Hi Charmo,

It would be great to get together and shoot the shit. What have you been up to? If you got a girl that wants a MMF count me in.

PP.

AndyFrain
12-12-17, 23:40
Why not start this off right LOL.

Anyone want to get together with a white pawn friend. North side city, looking for 1 or 2 guys. Nonpro early 20's pawg.

Can make it tonight, or another day with more time to plan.I'm interested. Pm me info.

AndyFrain
12-12-17, 23:41
I'm interested I'm in Northside of city as well. Thanks.Count me in. Pm me.

Raoul Duke
12-13-17, 03:42
It's a rare occasion that I get out anymore, but every now and again I'll touch base with old friends. Most of them have moved on with their lives, but some still work part time and utr. On this particular night I texted one of them who agreed to meet me at her place, but said she'd need about an hour to get home as she was out having beers at one of her favorite watering holes. We agreed on a time and I arrived on schedule.

It was good to see her as she was especially friendly, perhaps in part as a result of her liquid diet. Instead of the usual massage, she dropped her head in my lap and began kissing the little guy as I sat on her couch. This had never happened before so I was somewhat surprised, but didn't question her. Everything was going well as she bobbed up and down until I was greeted with the most unpleasant smell of her beer fart. She kept bobbing up and down and I literally covered my nose until the grand finale, but I've got to tell you it was not easy concentrating on achieving the goal with the polluted air that filled the room. It was one of those silent but deadly things that slipped out while she was hard at work. Neither of us said a word and fortunately the air eventually cleared, but that was one of the funnier experiences I've had. Happy Holidays, fellas.

ItsHowdyDoody
12-13-17, 13:12
Not sure if this person posted on backpage, or where, so I am just including it in general reports here. Careful out there!

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/man-charged-with-running-brothel-out-of-albany-park-apartment/

Starks
12-13-17, 20:37
It's a rare occasion that I get out anymore, but every now and again I'll touch base with old friends. Most of them have moved on with their lives, but some still work part time and utr. On this particular night I texted one of them who agreed to meet me at her place, but said she'd need about an hour to get home as she was out having beers at one of her favorite watering holes. We agreed on a time and I arrived on schedule.

It was good to see her as she was especially friendly, perhaps in part as a result of her liquid diet. Instead of the usual massage, she dropped her head in my lap and began kissing the little guy as I sat on her couch. This had never happened before so I was somewhat surprised, but didn't question her. Everything was going well as she bobbed up and down until I was greeted with the most unpleasant smell of her beer fart. She kept bobbing up and down and I literally covered my nose until the grand finale, but I've got to tell you it was not easy concentrating on achieving the goal with the polluted air that filled the room. It was one of those silent but deadly things that slipped out while she was hard at work. Neither of us said a word and fortunately the air eventually cleared, but that was one of the funnier experiences I've had. Happy Holidays, fellas.Share the details about her.

Terry7168
12-13-17, 22:14
it's a rare occasion that i get out anymore, but every now and again i'll touch base with old friends. Most of them have moved on with their lives, but some still work part time and utr. On this particular night i texted one of them who agreed to meet me at her place, but said she'd need about an hour to get home as she was out having beers at one of her favorite watering holes. We agreed on a time and i arrived on schedule.

It was good to see her as she was especially friendly, perhaps in part as a result of her liquid diet. Instead of the usual massage, she dropped her head in my lap and began kissing the little guy as i sat on her couch. This had never happened before so i was somewhat surprised, but didn't question her. Everything was going well as she bobbed up and down until i was greeted with the most unpleasant smell of her beer fart. She kept bobbing up and down and i literally covered my nose until the grand finale, but i've got to tell you it was not easy concentrating on achieving the goal with the polluted air that filled the room. It was one of those silent but deadly things that slipped out while she was hard at work. Neither of us said a word and fortunately the air eventually cleared, but that was one of the funnier experiences i've had. Happy holidays, fellas.maybe the dog under the couch did it lmao you handled it well!

Thor23
01-02-18, 12:45
Was wondering if anyone has seen or spoken to bike room Stacey. Can pm if you want.

DomCorazon
01-06-18, 22:27
Little head may be clouding my judgement. I avoid online verify accounts, sending pictures, any personal information, or employment check. I found a chick today on the other site, to my surprise not discussed in the escort forum. Her employment check consisted of me sending a blank email from my work to her professional sounding dummy email. Never thought of that as what was meant by employment check. What could be wrong with that?

Zeuss
01-06-18, 23:14
Little head may be clouding my judgement. I avoid online verify accounts, sending pictures, any personal information, or employment check. I found a chick today on the other site, to my surprise not discussed in the escort forum. Her employment check consisted of me sending a blank email from my work to her professional sounding dummy email. Never thought of that as what was meant by employment check. What could be wrong with that?Potential risk for the scammer blackmailers.

DynoJr
01-06-18, 23:47
Little head may be clouding my judgement. I avoid online verify accounts, sending pictures, any personal information, or employment check. I found a chick today on the other site, to my surprise not discussed in the escort forum. Her employment check consisted of me sending a blank email from my work to her professional sounding dummy email. Never thought of that as what was meant by employment check. What could be wrong with that?I'm guessing the new asian that starts this week? I got the same request, not sure how I plan to handle. I've done it before but not with someone that hasn't been established. I did send a blank email from work once but it was to a separate gmail account set up for verification purposes, I. E. It couldn't be traced to a provider account through a simple google search.

The problem with sending to her account is that she will show up on a review site and you will have a difficulty explaining that to your employer.

Jayp80
01-07-18, 08:18
Potential risk for the scammer blackmailers.For me once you have my work email you have my full name that you can look up on Facebook that tells you my wife's name once you have those you can get our cells that's posted on resumes on LinkedIn. I don't want a provider telling me $5 k or I show up at your wife's job.

I know there are services that allow you to create at yourbusiness.com email addresses. So pay to made up biz or spoof a real biz at chasebank, at kraftfoods at acmeanvil etc.

DomCorazon
01-07-18, 11:03
I'm guessing the new asian that starts this week? I got the same request, not sure how I plan to handle. I've done it before but not with someone that hasn't been established. I did send a blank email from work once but it was to a separate gmail account set up for verification purposes, I. E. It couldn't be traced to a provider account through a simple google search.

The problem with sending to her account is that she will show up on a review site and you will have a difficulty explaining that to your employer.No, not Annabelle. A latina, Carmen Vasquez. I initially figured since it was one blank email just deny deny deny if something came out of it. Even with her knowing my real world alter ego. Most mongers don't over analyze, but she could add text to my blank email and blackmail me like Zeuss said.

How about this method? If you go to an appointment and she checks your license, business card and work I'd before you go in. No pictures of them. This FBSM chick does that.

Pedorro
01-07-18, 13:40
Little head may be clouding my judgement. I avoid online verify accounts, sending pictures, any personal information, or employment check. I found a chick today on the other site, to my surprise not discussed in the escort forum. Her employment check consisted of me sending a blank email from my work to her professional sounding dummy email. Never thought of that as what was meant by employment check. What could be wrong with that?I would never send a email to to provider from work. You are now using the work email for personal use which many or most company's clearly ban the use of work email for personal use. If something goes wrong I could be traced thru work, just can't have that happened! Actually I don't think any of the people I've seen in this hobby know my real name or anything personal.

DynoJr
01-07-18, 14:01
No, not Annabelle. A latina, Carmen Vasquez. I initially figured since it was one blank email just deny deny deny if something came out of it. Even with her knowing my real world alter ego. Most mongers don't over analyze, but she could add text to my blank email and blackmail me like Zeuss said.

How about this method? If you go to an appointment and she checks your license, business card and work I'd before you go in. No pictures of them. This FBSM chick does that.I haven't seen her yet but she's on my short list. I should have an in, because I've seen a couple of her friends already. Only problem with your proposal is that she has to let you into their shared love den without knowing you. She (they) might have a problem with that.

With her I wouldn't be concerned about your identity because she's been vetted by many other people and hangs with a close group of other providers. But my comment regarding sending a work email still remains. If you offer to send a FB or LinkedIn profile link via your monger account, that should work.

RockaBilly1032
01-15-18, 21:30
Hello! I'm planning a trip abroad this year and looking for a place where I can really get the most out of my money, the best bang for my buck. So, where are you favorite places to monger outside of the US? Thanks, gents.

Tugeee
01-15-18, 22:59
Check the International Sex Guide tab on the Front Page.


Hello! I'm planning a trip abroad this year and looking for a place where I can really get the most out of my money, the best bang for my buck. So, where are you favorite places to monger outside of the US? Thanks, gents.

Jadedone
01-16-18, 11:23
Hello! I'm planning a trip abroad this year and looking for a place where I can really get the most out of my money, the best bang for my buck. So, where are you favorite places to monger outside of the US? Thanks, gents.I've always wanted to visit Costa Rica. This site and others have forums dedicated to mongering there. I haven't read them in a while, but there were lots of good info there. And flights are relatively inexpensive.

Walker333
01-16-18, 12:29
I've always wanted to visit Costa Rica. This site and others have forums dedicated to mongering there. I haven't read them in a while, but there were lots of good info there. And flights are relatively inexpensive.Based upon my experience in all big and small countries and towns offer well exceeds the demand, therefore the prices are very low and gorgeous material. GFE is pretty much standard.

PussyPoker
01-17-18, 09:02
Check the International Sex Guide tab on the Front Page.All are great places to visit. I go 2 times a year. I even have a couple of girls that video chat with me when I'm back in the states.

Jadedone
01-17-18, 18:21
Based upon my experience in all big and small countries and towns offer well exceeds the demand, therefore the prices are very low and gorgeous material. GFE is pretty much standard.I've heard the same. Costa Rica is definitely on my bucket list.

Vern2020
01-18-18, 19:09
I've heard the same. Costa Rica is definitely on my bucket list.I went to Costa Rica for a little over a week back in November. It was terrific. Beautiful country, great people. Reasonable expense. Great time with the chicas. Here is another source of info:

https://costaricaticas.com/

E6671
01-19-18, 23:20
Hello! I'm planning a trip abroad this year and looking for a place where I can really get the most out of my money, the best bang for my buck. So, where are you favorite places to monger outside of the US? Thanks, gents.Thailand. You can get a BBBJCIM for about $20.00 US at a blowjob bar. Short time full service for about $55 and an all night for between $75 and $90. My opinion for full service is stick to the free lancers at the regular bars. The take out at the GoGo bars are way too expensive and I have always had a little drama with them. Even with the drama from the GoGo girls the service has always been much better than any experience I have had in the US with the exception of the girls at AX when they were around.

You will literally trip over providers in Bangkok and Pattaya but if you decide to go and need some advice send me a PM.

Not Dead Yet
01-19-18, 23:54
I plan on being one of the first customers.

If I knew then. . . No, make that If I knew 1/10th, then, of what I know now. . .

Ron M
01-20-18, 05:46
If I knew then. . . No, make that If I knew 1/10th, then, of what I know now. . .I think we all would.

PussyPoker
01-20-18, 19:02
Thailand. You can get a BBBJCIM for about $20.00 US at a blowjob bar. Short time full service for about $55 and an all night for between $75 and $90. My opinion for full service is stick to the free lancers at the regular bars. The take out at the GoGo bars are way too expensive and I have always had a little drama with them. Even with the drama from the GoGo girls the service has always been much better than any experience I have had in the US with the exception of the girls at AX when they were around.

You will literally trip over providers in Bangkok and Pattaya but if you decide to go and need some advice send me a PM.They are in the streets, bars, malls, if you can't find a girl to fuck then you must be dead. HAHA.

Ron M
01-20-18, 19:54
They are in the streets, bars, malls, if you can't find a girl to fuck then you must be dead. HAHA.Would be awesome if it was like that here.

Easyed00
01-21-18, 04:00
Will be working in Dekalb next weekend. Any good action in that area?

Jayp80
01-21-18, 22:11
I've never visited but I saw the Pilsen massage girls were robbed either by a client or while 2 clients were there, someone was stabbed, hard to follow the tweets. Always be careful especially when there are multiple providers and the potential for someone else being there with you.

https://twitter.com/thaliaj11/status/954582789969600512

NiceTown
01-22-18, 02:22
They are in the streets, bars, malls, if you can't find a girl to fuck then you must be dead. HAHA.All you have to do is youtube prostitution in Pattaya Thailand they have alot of videos on there with some fine ass streetwalkers and nice rooms on the stroll starting at 18.00 dollars a night very Cheap! Making plans to go asap. I hear pattaya is the best place for girls Bangkok is too but more crowded

Admin2
01-22-18, 12:17
Hello! I'm planning a trip abroad this year and looking for a place where I can really get the most out of my money, the best bang for my buck. So, where are you favorite places to monger outside of the US? Thanks, gents.Don't go to Medellin, Medellin is over, high priced chicks with tons of attitude. Too many of you guys who don't know how to say no have gone there. Seriously the "I'm on vacation, time is more important than money" guys have driving the prices through the roof. I was just there for two months.

I'm in Thailand, if you have yellow fever come for sure, 20 dollar BBBJCIM, 60 dollar full service for an hour. If you come here allow two days minimum to recover. Stay at the Sukhumvit 12 Bangkok Hotel & Suites.

Germany (Use Bob from http://guides2sex.com/ he's both an advertiser and a friend) and Barcelona are good too.

A2.

RockaBilly1032
01-22-18, 14:51
Thanks for all the info, guys. It really helped! I've been doing some research and I think I've nailed down my next sex-tination. While Europe has a great selection of women in Germany and Amsterdam it looks like they've really gone up in price over the years and maybe the US Dollar isn't as strong there for mongering. Thailand sounds good but unfortunately I'm over yellow fever and they just don't do it for me. That's my personal preference, not knocking it. It looks like Colombia or Costa Rica for me. South American women are right up my alley and as I am fluent in Spanish I think I might have a better time in either one of these countries. Plus, I hear the dollar is stronger in these monger spots. The only things I can't nail down about these two is how they're doing with all the hurricanes and displacement. Is CR a mess? Is Colombia getting an influx of refugees that are either driving up or down prices? If anyone has any insight on this please let me know! I'm also be reaching out to the dudes who offered help. Thanks again, gents!

Jayp80
01-22-18, 15:04
Thanks for all the info, guys. It really helped! I've been doing some research and I think I've nailed down my next sex-tination. While Europe has a great selection of women in Germany and Amsterdam it looks like they've really gone up in price over the years and maybe the US Dollar isn't as strong there for mongering. Thailand sounds good but unfortunately I'm over yellow fever and they just don't do it for me. That's my personal preference, not knocking it. It looks like Colombia or Costa Rica for me. South American women are right up my alley and as I am fluent in Spanish I think I might have a better time in either one of these countries. Plus, I hear the dollar is stronger in these monger spots. The only things I can't nail down about these two is how they're doing with all the hurricanes and displacement. Is CR a mess? Is Colombia getting an influx of refugees that are either driving up or down prices? If anyone has any insight on this please let me know! I'm also be reaching out to the dudes who offered help. Thanks again, gents!YouTube mongering <city> and you'll find a lot of info on going rates, places to visit, local laws etc.

MeatMan
01-23-18, 14:57
Don't go to Medellin, Medellin is over, high priced chicks with tons of attitude. Too many of you guys who don't know how to say no have gone there. Seriously the "I'm on vacation, time is more important than money" guys have driving the prices through the roof. I was just there for two months.

I'm in Thailand, if you have yellow fever come for sure, 20 dollar BBBJCIM, 60 dollar full service for an hour. If you come here allow two days minimum to recover. Stay at the Sukhumvit 12 Bangkok Hotel & Suites.

Germany (Use Bob from http://guides2sex.com/ he's both an advertiser and a friend) and Barcelona are good too.

A2.Please don't overlook Pattaya and Phuket if you have the time (I assume you've been to both and know the layout) Enjoy!

Magooski
01-23-18, 18:38
Just a friendly reminder that it's the super bowl sting season! Be wary of new providers for now. They have big stings nation wide the weeks leading up to the Big game!

Jadedone
01-24-18, 12:37
Thanks for all the info, guys. It really helped! I've been doing some research and I think I've nailed down my next sex-tination. While Europe has a great selection of women in Germany and Amsterdam it looks like they've really gone up in price over the years and maybe the US Dollar isn't as strong there for mongering. Thailand sounds good but unfortunately I'm over yellow fever and they just don't do it for me. That's my personal preference, not knocking it. It looks like Colombia or Costa Rica for me. South American women are right up my alley and as I am fluent in Spanish I think I might have a better time in either one of these countries. Plus, I hear the dollar is stronger in these monger spots. The only things I can't nail down about these two is how they're doing with all the hurricanes and displacement. Is CR a mess? Is Colombia getting an influx of refugees that are either driving up or down prices? If anyone has any insight on this please let me know! I'm also be reaching out to the dudes who offered help. Thanks again, gents!Going to give credit to Vern2020, but check out the site from his post below. Lots of useful information there.


I went to Costa Rica for a little over a week back in November. It was terrific. Beautiful country, great people. Reasonable expense. Great time with the chicas. Here is another source of info:

https://costaricaticas.com/

Niceguy99
01-24-18, 23:18
I've never visited but I saw the Pilsen massage girls were robbed either by a client or while 2 clients were there, someone was stabbed, hard to follow the tweets. Always be careful especially when there are multiple providers and the potential for someone else being there with you.

https://twitter.com/thaliaj11/status/954582789969600512Do you have any idea what their rates are?

Niceguy99
01-24-18, 23:22
Just looked it up. It's 90 for hh and I doubt that's a flat rate. Seems kind of pricy. Might toftt. It does state no FS but they do offer nuru.

VRooomBada
01-25-18, 01:22
Do you have any idea what their rates are?Lmao nothing from that post is deterring you from going?

MongerAlways
01-25-18, 18:41
Do you have any idea what their rates are?I messaged them. Its at an apartment.

Too many robbery stories with providers at apartments. No thanks. Be safe mongers.

Seldon69
01-28-18, 21:36
Anybody know if there is a subsitute for the old Cap'and Kirk Freak Fests?

Niceguy99
01-31-18, 11:02
Anybody know if there is a subsitute for the old Cap'and Kirk Freak Fests?Aw man I remember those.

Niceguy99
01-31-18, 11:02
Lmao nothing from that post is deterring you from going?I love Latinas and pilsen is an easy area for me to get to.

ChicagoGoer
01-31-18, 14:44
Didn't know where to post this.

Looking for 1-2 seniors for a gangbang tomorrow. Ideally looking to host around Oak Park whether it be a hotel etc etc.

22 year old.

Asian.

130 lbs.

HWP.

If interested please PM me.

Chad213
01-31-18, 14:59
Didn't know where to post this.

Looking for 1-2 seniors for a gangbang tomorrow. Ideally looking to host around Oak Park whether it be a hotel etc etc.

22 year old.

Asian.

130 lbs.

HWP.

If interested please PM me.I just sent you a Pm.

Easyed00
01-31-18, 18:02
Hey Guys,

Anyone use Ashley Madison for this hobby?

Thanks,

EasyEd.

Easyed00
01-31-18, 18:03
Hey Guys,

Anyone use Ashley M for this hobby?

Thanks,

EE.

TitSucker
02-01-18, 03:41
Hey Guys,

Anyone use Ashley M for this hobby?

Thanks,

EE.I've been on Ashley Madison for a few years. Haven't met anyone yet. Most of the contacts have been getting money or using up chat time as you pay for that.

Easyed00
02-01-18, 11:35
I've been on Ashley Madison for a few years. Haven't met anyone yet. Most of the contacts have been getting money or using up chat time as you pay for that.I sorta figured that.

Is that because you haven't really tried?

EE.

BigTen
02-01-18, 13:19
Hey Guys,

Anyone use Ashley M for this hobby?

Thanks,

EE.I have been on AM for a few years. I tried it once by buying some minutes, but it was a waste of time. I'm not sure how many of the ladies there are actually interested in meeting, or if they are even real. As stated, it seems like the goal is to get you to burn your minutes. Does anyone know how the "gits" work? I get a couple of them a day, but it seems they have -0- value to the recipient.

Kimbll83
02-01-18, 18:22
I have been on AM for a few years. I tried it once by buying some minutes, but it was a waste of time. I'm not sure how many of the ladies there are actually interested in meeting, or if they are even real. As stated, it seems like the goal is to get you to burn your minutes. Does anyone know how the "gits" work? I get a couple of them a day, but it seems they have -0- value to the recipient.Ashley Madison has been a joke and complete waste of time for me.

Chicago41
02-01-18, 20:01
I can't believe some of you are still on this site. They get you to join, they have employees or bots sending you messages that you have to pay to read, then when you respond they go silent. It's a scam and yes, I'm sure some guy somewhere managed to meet someone from there once or twice, but that success is like the 1% to thr 99% of everyone else who gets nowhere or scammed.

Not to mention the idiots got hacked and because of their sloppy security a bunch of people's personal info wound up being sold on the dark web and used for blackmail.

DMichaels69
02-02-18, 08:50
I was a member there once many years ago, total ripoff like you said.


I can't believe some of you are still on this site. They get you to join, they have employees or bots sending you messages that you have to pay to read, then when you respond they go silent. It's a scam and yes, I'm sure some guy somewhere managed to meet someone from there once or twice, but that success is like the 1% to thr 99% of everyone else who gets nowhere or scammed.

Not to mention the idiots got hacked and because of their sloppy security a bunch of people's personal info wound up being sold on the dark web and used for blackmail.

Toe Knee
02-07-18, 08:05
I was contacted by a black woman, short big tits and nice ass. Close to me and got a nice quick BBBJ for 25. Will definitely be keeping her in mind for the future.

StanCopier
02-07-18, 11:51
Several years ago I met six women off Ashley Madison, only had sex with one, so at the time they were real.


I can't believe some of you are still on this site. They get you to join, they have employees or bots sending you messages that you have to pay to read, then when you respond they go silent. It's a scam and yes, I'm sure some guy somewhere managed to meet someone from there once or twice, but that success is like the 1% to thr 99% of everyone else who gets nowhere or scammed.

Not to mention the idiots got hacked and because of their sloppy security a bunch of people's personal info wound up being sold on the dark web and used for blackmail.

WalkBob
02-07-18, 13:05
Used AFF about 6 years ago and had super hot affair with a married sexy Mexican American woman. Had never even given a BJ before and taught her that and CIM, COF, fisting and anal. She was plenty experienced by the time we went our separate ways.

NsaPorn01
02-10-18, 11:23
I made this user to warn you guys about NSA Porn, don't go there, it's a malware site. They give you a link saying your computer is infected and when you click on it it installs ransomware.

LatinPoker
02-11-18, 14:08
I made this user to warn you guys about NSA Porn, don't go there, it's a malware site. They give you a link saying your computer is infected and when you click on it it installs ransomware.I thought something was suspect when I clicked on a link and got pop-ups everywhere!! Be safe out there fellas!

JasperNewton
02-11-18, 16:31
I was contacted by a black woman, short big tits and nice ass. Close to me and got a nice quick BBBJ for 25. Will definitely be keeping her in mind for the future.I downloaded this but am not sure how it works as far as mongering. I just keep getting liked by girls that resemble the Goodyear Blimp. LOL. Any tips? Also, are you willing to share the number of your girl? PM is fine.

LatinPoker
02-11-18, 16:40
I was contacted by a black woman, short big tits and nice ass. Close to me and got a nice quick BBBJ for 25. Will definitely be keeping her in mind for the future.I used MeetMe in the past, not for the hobby though! LOL any tips you can share? Any specific groups to keep an eye out for?

Mr Charmo
02-14-18, 00:13
Some plans might get cancelled. I may have a room for the. Got. Anything going on? South burbs area.

Mr Charmo
02-14-18, 04:04
In my prolonged absence I've managed to keep couple girls here and there for emergency situations. Met up with a hottie tonight, I've known since she was barely legal. What a shame, though, she's a total brat pain in the ass.

Time to get some new blood. This one from tonight was a total dud.

Mr Charmo
02-14-18, 22:20
Anyone down for a MMF or GB tonight? Early 20's PAWG. Somewhat open to area. Get a room and some drinks and whisper sweet nothings at a nice fat ass.

Pay to Play
02-15-18, 11:50
Going to spending couple of months here in Chicago west side for work. Lots of lonely hotel nights to come. Hopefully you all can point me in right direction to make them a bit less lonely.

Any recommendations? Definetly can reciprocate with my experiences.

Thanks in advance.

Eric Lex
02-17-18, 23:31
Going to spending couple of months here in Chicago west side for work. Lots of lonely hotel nights to come. Hopefully you all can point me in right direction to make them a bit less lonely.

Any recommendations? Definetly can reciprocate with my experiences.

Thanks in advance.We can't really help you if we don't know your budget, type of lady or session preferences.

Check out the BP and escort report sections. You may have some luck finding a few providers there.

Pay to Play
02-19-18, 07:48
We can't really help you if we don't know your budget, type of lady or session preferences.

Check out the BP and escort report sections. You may have some luck finding a few providers there.Going to be starting in Glen Ellyn area. Prefer white girls. Open on budget. Have done the SA thing a few times but it's a big hit to budget. Prefer a more got and leave it arrangement. Target would need < 200. Even up for street girls if safe areas nearby.

Thanks.

Kellster
02-19-18, 13:11
Going to be starting in Glen Ellyn area. Prefer white girls. Open on budget. Have done the SA thing a few times but it's a big hit to budget. Prefer a more got and leave it arrangement. Target would need < 200. Even up for street girls if safe areas nearby.

Thanks.Just an FYI- in the west suburbs- North Ave & Lake Street have a notorious reputation for having many rip off joints (aka clip joints) where you will pay a lot of money and be let unsatisfied. These are mostly American spas- see the rip off forum on this site for more details. In addition, the powers that be love running stings on backpage to nab mongers. I would research the forum and other sites to find a well reviewed provider or place before jumping in. Good luck!

Not Dead Yet
02-19-18, 20:04
Just an FYI- in the west suburbs- North Ave & Lake Street have a notorious reputation for having many rip off joints (aka clip joints) where you will pay a lot of money and be let unsatisfied. These are mostly American spas- see the rip off forum on this site for more details. In addition, the powers that be love running stings on backpage to nab mongers. I would research the forum and other sites to find a well reviewed provider or place before jumping in. Good luck!More like the most anger you've ever esperienced in your life. A 'friend' told me that he seriously considered burning the building and / or damaging the cars in the back lot, before coming to his senses. Angry at both the girl (s) and himself for not figuring out the game before paying the money.

Spend some time reading the forums to get a better idea about the area. Most of the decent action at that price range is at the MP's, mostly asian. For Caucasian ladies plan on more money and different areas than the western 'burbs. Or SW's in the city. Be safe.

Kingmaletx
02-20-18, 14:34
Visiting Chicago and only good news is that there are actual real posts (if you catch them in time) being posted on CL; in other towns is just bots and trannies posting. Have collected some pics and phone numbers, but given that I'm told the areas where these girls are at aren't the safest, yet to pull the trigger, and these girls want to be picked up. Most are AA's, and the only one who offered to actually come to my hotel. I thought the prices were high. The white ladies want a premium price. For the price they want, nope, rather save the money and spend it in Europe where for half the price you get some 10/10 talent.

Been hitting the social site talked about before on here, and yep, actually surprised that I have also collected a couple of numbers from there, but damn, these girls are crazy! In other cities they want standard rates. Got some hoes wanting 100 just for a BJ and twice for the deed. I told them, seriously? You got any reviews cause for those prices, you might as well go work at an agency. Also, these hoes are so crazy in Chicago that they want you to come right there and then when they tell you. NOpe, not tomorrow or later in the evening, but right now. If you don't, you're blocked! WTF! Never seen that in other towns. Anyway. The posts I see in this Chicago forums aren't as detailed in help as other cities. So I'm writing this in the chicago style. Write a lot, but don't say much helpful!

AA below blocked me for not coming right away. Fat booty one, undecided to meet, and big boobs, still waiting for a space to see her.

CoolPatrick
02-20-18, 16:58
Visiting Chicago and only good news is that there are actual real posts (if you catch them in time) being posted on CL; in other towns is just bots and trannies posting. Have collected some pics and phone numbers, but given that I'm told the areas where these girls are at aren't the safest, yet to pull the trigger, and these girls want to be picked up. Most are AA's, and the only one who offered to actually come to my hotel. I thought the prices were high. The white ladies want a premium price. For the price they want, nope, rather save the money and spend it in Europe where for half the price you get some 10/10 talent.

Been hitting the social site talked about before on here, and yep, actually surprised that I have also collected a couple of numbers from there, but damn, these girls are crazy! In other cities they want standard rates. Got some hoes wanting 100 just for a BJ and twice for the deed. I told them, seriously? You got any reviews cause for those prices, you might as well go work at an agency. Also, these hoes are so crazy in Chicago that they want you to come right there and then when they tell you. NOpe, not tomorrow or later in the evening, but right now. If you don't, you're blocked! WTF! Never seen that in other towns. Anyway. The posts I see in this Chicago forums aren't as detailed in help as other cities. So I'm writing this in the chicago style. Write a lot, but don't say much helpful!

AA below blocked me for not coming right away. Fat booty one, undecided to meet, and big boobs, still waiting for a space to see her.Chicago scene is really bad, from SW to BP to real escort (agency & independent) levels. The mark-up is not as crazy as those in NYC, SF, DC, and LA, but it is still quite pricy, especially considering the quality of the supply pool. In Florida and Texas, the market is more of a buyer's market given the supply pool is much bigger and better.

As a result, thrill seekers in Chicago are really protective about the gems they spend so much effort to find on the street, on CL, on BP, or on arrangement websites. The agencies or indys make up a good supply for a big city like Chicago, but they are definitely on the pricy side and we also don't have the best being sent to our city or as frequent as NYC, DC, etc. The intel shared here about those are pretty good too. But from what you posted, you seemed to be the thrill seeker and aim at the affordable end of the market. So you don't see the quality intel around town. Sorry, it is what it is, and you should appreciate the market of your neck of the woods.

We don't have legends like CookieJar (Philadelphia) or Glockman (Memphis), but most importantly, the market and supply and LEO risk are just very different. Chicago is not a hobby friendly town.

I don't know if you are seriously mocking the posting quality in our town, but I'd appreciate you actually posting something more concrete than you have already had if you really want to criticize the quality of intel people share here. Giving a great example would be the best criticism. Otherwise, I'd say, folks are doing just fine and it is in response to how bad Chicago scene is, nothing more.

All in all, I hope you are able to score some fun while you are in town. Good luck and stay safe.

Kellster
02-20-18, 23:16
More like the most anger you've ever esperienced in your life. A 'friend' told me that he seriously considered burning the building and / or damaging the cars in the back lot, before coming to his senses. Angry at both the girl (s) and himself for not figuring out the game before paying the money.

Spend some time reading the forums to get a better idea about the area. Most of the decent action at that price range is at the MP's, mostly asian. For Caucasian ladies plan on more money and different areas than the western 'burbs. Or SW's in the city. Be safe.Yeah most of us older folks have all been there. We got burned in the pre-internet era when there weren't any forums to share info. Fortunately they took me for the bare minimum- I only bring a set amount for any new place that I'm willing to spend. Since the internet and this site it evens the playing field dramatically. Your friend was smart to come to his senses. It's not worth ruining your life over. Those places usually have goons close by in case of angry customers. I suspect they pay off the local police too. Fortunately if you read the forums you can avoid getting taken now. It saved me when I went to Vegas- as sure enough just like the forum warned me- a cabbie (paid by the jackshacks owner for bringing in people) tried to suggest a jackshack to me in order to rip me off so he could get a cut. I said no thanks I'm tired just take me to my hotel after a night of hitting the strip clubs. The best way to get back at those rip off joints is to hit them where it hurts- in their wallet by posting honest reviews here. Eden Spa in Glenview pulled that crap on me. I gave them a dirty look on the way out but thought better of it and ripped the hell out of them on a massage forum at the time where someone was obviously a shill posting positive fake reviews on there. This was before I knew about this site. Anyway, they closed shortly afterwards.

Bob521
02-20-18, 23:22
Mei and I are looking for full time licensed massage therapist for our legit shop in Buffalo Grove. http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag.

You can reach me at the store phone number or else PM me. She must have good massage skills. Our specialty is Chinese Traditional Massage. There's a link on our website explaining it. Basically its acupressure / shiatsu / deep tissue / trigger point. The idea is to unblock the energy meridians in the body. Reflexology has some similar characteristics. We have three tables, two foot sofas, a sauna, and a stand-up shower. Buffalo Grove is a strict town and they do license checks. Of course, not extras are offered. Mei is really serious about helping folks with physical problems. The MT should have an agreeable personality, kind, friendly and honest. English is helpful but not a deal breaker. I would not worry too much about technical skills (as long as she has a license) because Mei will teach her all the techniques. Mei and I have a nice apartment across the street (10 minute walk) with an extra room. So if the girl can't commute, we could work something out. No living in the store. That's a big big plus for everybody I ever knew. Living in a massage parlor really sucks. So please let me l know if you know anybody who wants a legit job. Mei and / or I answers the store phone, so your friend can call that phone if she wants.

Thanks very much. Bob.

Sorry I haven't done much posting. But if its any consolation, I just bought 200 viagra (suhagra) pills. That will give you an idea of what Mei and I do with our free time. .

Ron M
02-21-18, 02:36
We got burned in the pre-internet era when there weren't any forums to share info.Back in the old days us Baby Boomers had to pick up a newspaper or local paper like the Reader to find girls. Just browse through the ads. If an ad interested me I made an appointment. We didn't have the luxury of reading reviews. You Nintendo and Millennial guys are lucky. You can read reviews and go from there.

JasperNewton
02-27-18, 00:30
Alright, fellas. Need your help. A buddy and I are recently single and want to take a trip somewhere and just down in women. What, in your opinon, is the best domestic city in which to do so? Mongering is ok, but clubs that are single dude friendly preferred. I'd even say strip joints with easy / cheap extras are good, too! Thanks in advance!

CoolPatrick
02-27-18, 13:09
Alright, fellas. Need your help. A buddy and I are recently single and want to take a trip somewhere and just down in women. What, in your opinon, is the best domestic city in which to do so? Mongering is ok, but clubs that are single dude friendly preferred. I'd even say strip joints with easy / cheap extras are good, too! Thanks in advance!If I were you, I'd follow the source of information and find a city with the type of actions or providers you want to engage.

You should do your homework on USASG and find the most active city forums and start from there. Many city forums under Florida have active discussion about SW, BP girls and escorts. You can also click on Forum Photo tab to find out where legends establish their reputation. For example, CookieJar (Philadelphia) or Glockman (Memphis). Read through their posts and see if you can find actions in their cities like they do.

Beyond USASG, you should check out ECCIE, super popular for Southern states. There are 700+ active providers (all price ranges) under Dallas, another 500+ under Houston. Yes there are some overlapping. The point is, you can easily find more than you can handle on ECCIE in Dallas or Houston if you are willing to pay $200-$300 for an hour for a provider. Big coastal cities would also have enough supply, they just come with higher travel cost and play cost.

Jayp80
02-27-18, 15:07
If I were you, I'd follow the source of information and find a city with the type of actions or providers you want to engage.

You should do your homework on USASG and find the most active city forums and start from there. Many city forums under Florida have active discussion about SW, BP girls and escorts. You can also click on Forum Photo tab to find out where legends establish their reputation. For example, CookieJar (Philadelphia) or Glockman (Memphis). Read through their posts and see if you can find actions in their cities like they do.

Beyond USASG, you should check out ECCIE, super popular for Southern states. There are 700+ active providers (all price ranges) under Dallas, another 500+ under Houston. Yes there are some overlapping. The point is, you can easily find more than you can handle on ECCIE in Dallas or Houston if you are willing to pay $200-$300 for an hour for a provider. Big coastal cities would also have enough supply, they just come with higher travel cost and play cost.The best the US has to offer in terms of mongeribg is nothing compared to outside of the states. DR, Thailand, Germany, Philippines Columbia are great. For example in some places you can get a girl to spend the night for 80-100 bucks. YouTube mongering and the country name to get a feel.

Pay to Play
02-27-18, 15:13
Alright, fellas. Need your help. A buddy and I are recently single and want to take a trip somewhere and just down in women. What, in your opinon, is the best domestic city in which to do so? Mongering is ok, but clubs that are single dude friendly preferred. I'd even say strip joints with easy / cheap extras are good, too! Thanks in advance!Not domestic but close. Go to Tijuana. You can stay in San Diego. Park and walk across boarder and take taxi to the Zona where you can get all you can eat buffet for fraction of cost in States. For me details check out section in San Diego forum. In fact currently in Chicago for business but heading to San Diego for weekend which will include trip to Tijuana. I go regularly and give you details if you PM. Yes plenty safe and no you don't need to speak a word of Spanish.

Riina
02-27-18, 15:24
Alright, fellas. Need your help. A buddy and I are recently single and want to take a trip somewhere and just down in women. What, in your opinon, is the best domestic city in which to do so? Mongering is ok, but clubs that are single dude friendly preferred. I'd even say strip joints with easy / cheap extras are good, too! Thanks in advance!If you're over forty, the freebie scene is pretty much over for most of us in America.

MsPref411
02-27-18, 16:37
If you're over forty, the freebie scene is pretty much over for most of us in America.Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. Cheap airfare cheap AirBnB plenty of chica bars. $ gets you 2 hrs take out $$ gets you all night take out.

ClubParty
03-01-18, 02:44
Anyone know any good lactating providers? I will be in Chicago for only a short time and looking for some fun. Shoot me a PM. I will review whatever I find.

JasperNewton
03-01-18, 17:45
Appreciate your input, fellas! I'll make sure I report back when I make a decision.

Rocket Dork
03-01-18, 18:17
Anyone know any good lactating providers? I will be in Chicago for only a short time and looking for some fun. Shoot me a PM. I will review whatever I find.4 posts all asking questions. If you want information you need to share information. Rocket Dork.

Kellster
03-02-18, 03:46
Alright, fellas. Need your help. A buddy and I are recently single and want to take a trip somewhere and just down in women. What, in your opinon, is the best domestic city in which to do so? Mongering is ok, but clubs that are single dude friendly preferred. I'd even say strip joints with easy / cheap extras are good, too! Thanks in advance!Hmnn. Maybe Vegas, LA, or Miami (South Beach)? I haven't been to a dance club in ages but if you've got $$ & some bling I would think you'd meet some women. You might have to tip the doorman to get in though.

CakeLover13
03-02-18, 07:32
4 posts all asking questions. If you want information you need to share information. Rocket Dork.Thats shocking huh R D? LOL,

Kingmaletx
03-03-18, 02:02
Alright, fellas. Need your help. A buddy and I are recently single and want to take a trip somewhere and just down in women. What, in your opinon, is the best domestic city in which to do so? Mongering is ok, but clubs that are single dude friendly preferred. I'd even say strip joints with easy / cheap extras are good, too! Thanks in advance!In south florida, you can fly into fort laudederdale and look up diamond dolls, in Pompano Beach. It's gotten a bit hustly, but you got a lot of cuban girls there and for 100 bucks, full service; if you were to speak spanish, you might strike a bargain and get lucky, but the in last years girls have gotten greedy and hustly so they all want 100-120; trick is to find the girls that are a bit buzzed and then they might lower down their prices, or you go to the usual 25 dollar dance booth, and try to strike a bargain there. Have had some wild times in that joint. Colleagues who come down always beg to be taken there; it used to be a lot better though, so stopped going about a year ago. And by better, I mean, could get a full ride for 50 bucks when dancers were having a slow night. Now it is so busy that yea, bargains aren't as easily accessible; at least not like the good old day.

And of course, read the pompano section of the south florida area to find plenty of info on SW's if that's your thing. But if in South Florida, Diamond dolls is where the guaranteed action is. Close by you got the Porthole too, but mainly AA dancers and older ladies in the afternoon. And if you want to save money, Spearmint Rhinos in West Palm has the 10 dollar dance special every Tuesday night. Full friction, full nude, is just a matter of finding the girl who will release your stress, but for 10 dollars a dance, not hard to find.

Truthfu11
03-05-18, 16:43
Wow. We are all horrible people. Did you know that? Some definite opinions expressed on this WBEZ segment this morning.

5000 names collected from the Skokie Apt sting? Don't think I'm one. But who knows where they got their data.

https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview/international-sex-trafficking-rings-operate-in-chicago/e1936c02-40a0-46b9-befb-9cab38a89766

Ron M
03-05-18, 22:06
Wow. We are all horrible people. Did you know that? Some definite opinions expressed on this WBEZ segment this morning.

5000 names collected from the Skokie Apt sting? Don't think I'm one. But who knows where they got their data.

https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview/international-sex-trafficking-rings-operate-in-chicago/e1936c02-40a0-46b9-befb-9cab38a89766If these anti sex trafficking people want this to stop, then it's time to seriously think about legalizing prostitution.

Google Amnesty International Sex Worker rights.

It's a great read

A2

Ron M
03-05-18, 22:18
I just listened to this podcast about this report. What the Hell planet are these morons from? All their delusional ideas of stopping this is so non sense. They have better odds of winning the Powerball.

OngBak15
03-06-18, 03:11
I just listened to this podcast about this report. What the Hell planet are these morons from? All their delusional ideas of stopping this is so non sense. They have better odds of winning the Powerball.Heard the same thing and I was amazed at how often I said the words "Fake News". I love that station but since they got so much wrong with so many people throwing numbers all around, I don't think I can listen to other subjects and think it got a fair shake.

This is the world we live in now.

Ron M
03-06-18, 04:30
If these anti sex trafficking people want this to stop, then it's time to seriously think about legalizing prostitution.

Google Amnesty International Sex Worker rights.

It's a great read

A2I'll check it out.

Ron M
03-06-18, 04:37
Heard the same thing and I was amazed at how often I said the words "Fake News". I love that station but since they got so much wrong with so many people throwing numbers all around, I don't think I can listen to other subjects and think it got a fair shake.

This is the world we live in now.If fake news needed a definition this report fits that perfectly. They expect to change the mindset of the younger guys not to pay for sex. Wishful thinking.

Cmd04
03-14-18, 10:50
There's 19 min of my life I won't get back. But after reading your replies I had to give it a listen.

I can't recall once where the crazy cat lady mentioned anything about stopping the pimps and trafficker's. Just the john's.

I think her toy needs a new 9 volt.

She should open her legs every halloween and charge admission.

Cmd04.


If fake news needed a definition this report fits that perfectly. They expect to change the mindset of the younger guys not to pay for sex. Wishful thinking.

Mr Charmo
03-14-18, 22:44
Does anyone know a latina girl in Joliet?

Please PM any info to ensure I notice any response.

Mr Charmo
03-15-18, 19:35
Anyone need a spot for fun tonight? I'm looking at getting a room west burbs. Only need it for couple of hours. Anyone down for split or have a girl we can have fun with. Room under my name if needed discretion needed for wifey.

PM me.

StanleyStankas
03-15-18, 21:56
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Mr Charmo
03-15-18, 22:55
Anyone have any intel on a girl kay from Joliet? Met her recently in the area.

Some warning signs, but she's cute. Taking a gamble tonight.

Update- so far so good, boys!

Mr Charmo
03-17-18, 16:52
I've had the pleasure of both types of pussy recently, super tight and nicely wet. Makes me wonder, which is better?

I'm a bit surprised to say I'd probably go with wet pussy. Of course, still with a snug fit, just not vice grip-tight.

Any opinions?

Ron M
03-17-18, 17:07
I've had the pleasure of both types of pussy recently, super tight and nicely wet. Makes me wonder, which is better?

I'm a bit surprised to say I'd probably go with wet pussy. Of course, still with a snug fit, just not vice grip-tight.

Any opinions?Either one for me.

ElJefe69
03-17-18, 17:17
I've had the pleasure of both types of pussy recently, super tight and nicely wet. Makes me wonder, which is better?

I'm a bit surprised to say I'd probably go with wet pussy. Of course, still with a snug fit, just not vice grip-tight.

Any opinions?Pussy is like wine. There is some pussy we all agree is top notch.

Then there is the rest of it which varies in the eyes of the beholder.

PeterWanger69
03-18-18, 00:35
I've had the pleasure of both types of pussy recently, super tight and nicely wet. Makes me wonder, which is better?

I'm a bit surprised to say I'd probably go with wet pussy. Of course, still with a snug fit, just not vice grip-tight.

Any opinions?I think depends on whether you're covered or not. If I'm covered, then super tight for sure. If bare, then super wet. Nothing beats that sensation!

Sam Singer
03-18-18, 01:10
I think depends on whether you're covered or not. If I'm covered, then super tight for sure. If bare, then super wet. Nothing beats that sensation!Ah. The man with discriminating tastes. I know what you mean. Recently I had a couple of bare services, the wetness and tightness together made up for a great fuck session. It is rare indeed.

PeterWanger69
03-18-18, 10:54
Ah. The man with discriminating tastes. I know what you mean. Recently I had a couple of bare services, the wetness and tightness together made up for a great fuck session. It is rare indeed.Yes sir! In a perfect world, sure can't beat super tight and super wet together!

ReadyForRub
03-18-18, 13:32
I've had the pleasure of both types of pussy recently, super tight and nicely wet. Makes me wonder, which is better?

I'm a bit surprised to say I'd probably go with wet pussy. Of course, still with a snug fit, just not vice grip-tight.

Any opinions?If you take your time, wet will always happen. Nothing wrong with both, together.

Mr Charmo
03-18-18, 17:41
If you take your time, wet will always happen. Nothing wrong with both, together.The ridiculously tight girl I had recently is also a bit of a pain in the ass. Slamming everything, but heads just not right. Which can make it a challenge to get her wet. Must bring lube next time.

Mr Charmo
03-18-18, 17:42
I think depends on whether you're covered or not. If I'm covered, then super tight for sure. If bare, then super wet. Nothing beats that sensation!Yes, bare. And, yes, I agree one hundred.

Mr Charmo
03-19-18, 20:44
I need a room tomorrow, Weds or Thursday. Anyone interested in splitting, PM me. Only need for a couple hours.

BenBeck
03-19-18, 21:47
Yes, bare. And, yes, I agree one hundred.If the choice is strictly either / or, then I'd go with wet over tight. Nuthin' worse than dry. But, naturally tight and wet wins the day, given the choice.

BB, out.

Mr Charmo
03-19-18, 23:00
If the choice is strictly either / or, then I'd go with wet over tight. Nuthin' worse than dry. But, naturally tight and wet wins the day, given the choice.

BB, out.This tight girl I was speaking off is ridiculously tight. Known her for a couple years, off and on. Didn't remember her being this tight. But she's also a huge pain in the ass. Says she hasn't been having sex in a while, which makes sense cause she's such a pain in the ass! She has a puffy kitty, not my fave, that doesn't get too wet

But damn, is she hot, super tight and on birth control. Safer to hit bb since she hasn't been seeing other guys. Flipping coins if I continue seeing her

BenBeck
03-19-18, 23:51
This tight girl I was speaking off is ridiculously tight. Known her for a couple years, off and on. Didn't remember her being this tight. But she's also a huge pain in the ass. Says she hasn't been having sex in a while, which makes sense cause she's such a pain in the ass! She has a puffy kitty, not my fave, that doesn't get too wet

But damn, is she hot, super tight and on birth control. Safer to hit bb since she hasn't been seeing other guys. Flipping coins if I continue seeing herYES! Life is short.

Mr Charmo
03-20-18, 19:15
Any guys have girls they're looking to clear out of your rotation? Or a girl you're too busy to get to? Open to meet friends? PM me, I have a couple girls that want to meet a friend or two.

Mr Charmo
03-20-18, 19:20
I do have a girl that is asking if I have a friend. Don't have time to dig up my hobby buds' contacts while I'm out. PM or contact me.

NiteWolf
03-21-18, 15:29
I'm looking for a provider who into or open to anal? If you guys don't mind sharing info. Please Inbox me. Let me know what I can do reciprocate. 😀.

Acidjazz
03-23-18, 01:28
I'm looking for a provider who into or open to anal? If you guys don't mind sharing info. Please Inbox me. Let me know what I can do reciprocate. 😀.Try Rae. She has a 214 area code and is usually based up near waukegan. She can really take it.

Mr Charmo
03-23-18, 23:55
Downtown or north side. PM me.

NiteWolf
03-24-18, 02:19
Try Rae. She has a 214 area code and is usually based up near waukegan. She can really take it.Thanks. I will try her out. I just hope she worth the drive.

Wenger
03-25-18, 10:05
So I'm finding I can't log into RubMaps this morning and was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem? Tried on 2 different browsers plus my phone and nothing. Wondering if this is related to the CL issue.

-w.

Not Dead Yet
03-25-18, 10:36
So I'm finding I can't log into RubMaps this morning and was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem? Tried on 2 different browsers plus my phone and nothing. Wondering if this is related to the CL issue.

-w.Not working since late last night. Hope it's only temporary. Lots of bs and bad info, but also a lot of good info.

Don't know of any other site that is as easy to use and has as detailed info on the MP's.

PussyPoker
03-25-18, 11:44
So I'm finding I can't log into RubMaps this morning and was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem? Tried on 2 different browsers plus my phone and nothing. Wondering if this is related to the CL issue.

-w.Site under maintenance.

NsaPorn01
03-25-18, 15:41
Saw these local girls on Private Society. Not bad. They have a few other girls on the site from IL and IN.

Erika from Chicago.

http://www.privatesociety.com/video_details_main.php?type=4&vid=21

Roxanne from Chicago / NWI.

http://pornobae.com/private-society-roxanne-a-star-is-born/Nice videos.

Walker333
03-25-18, 16:49
So I'm finding I can't log into RubMaps this morning and was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem? Tried on 2 different browsers plus my phone and nothing. Wondering if this is related to the CL issue.

-w.I don't think it has been shot down. Ot worked, then stopped, then worked again and stopped, behaving as under construction.

RupertoPerto
03-26-18, 01:20
I don't think it has been shot down. Ot worked, then stopped, then worked again and stopped, behaving as under construction.It is not hosted in the US, so shouldn't be an issue for a while.

Maxamillion101
03-26-18, 12:50
Hi -.

I have an UTR girl who has been fantasizing about doing two guys and I want to make this a reality for her. We have a hotel downtown tonight. She is smoking hot, latina, thick but not overweight. If interested send me a message and I'll provide details. It's for tonight though. Monday night!

Trogon
03-26-18, 13:10
I do have a girl that is asking if I have a friend. Don't have time to dig up my hobby buds' contacts while I'm out. PM or contact me.Your inbox is full.

Mr Charmo
03-26-18, 20:48
Only need room for an 1. 5 hrs. Anyone want to split, PM me.

Mr Charmo
03-27-18, 03:05
Have another girl I've had contact for a while. Asking for buds.

Sorry, only hobbies I know, please. Possible super seniors. Don't have time to confirm if guys are real and safe

Mr Charmo
03-27-18, 20:05
I booked a room for the night, anybody have a girl you can bring over. Impromptu last-minte fun, perhaps a blowbang.

PM me.

Riina
03-28-18, 11:07
Seems a scary time to be a pimp with a website. I wonder how the new laws will affect our scene?

Walker333
03-28-18, 12:03
Seems a scary time to be a pimp with a website. I wonder how the new laws will affect our scene?Some providers simply cannot read or understand English, to learn about the new developments. Those who can, might be a little more cautious initially, but later on, probably very soon, calm down, and everything will be back to normal. Conclusion: there is no dramatic, drastic changes on the horizon because boys want to get laid, and girls want to make money Stay safe Gents.

GDriven
03-28-18, 19:09
Why does it seem like the Midway area never gets fun entertainment?

I keep trying to find Latina or Asian nearby but never have any luck. CeCe was unresponsive lately and flaked on me in the past.

Any leads? Point me in the right direction?

The Chinatown spots are so back and forth now too.

Mr Charmo
03-28-18, 20:12
Looking at north suburbs. Only needed for a couple hours. A nice room seems like a terrible thing to waste. PM me.

Mr Charmo
03-30-18, 09:44
Word on the streets there is a 19 yo Latina who's sweating. Getting kicked out of school and dorms by Monday. Pick her up at the Whole Foods at the corner, says she can use a smoke to feel better.

Facebook shows she was way hotter just a year or so. These days she's just eh, face is meh. Short, dressed she looks reg, little extra weight. I would probably hit, but just for the notch. nothing to get excited about.

At the end of the night she'll leave you scratching your head. Not sure what she's expecting or wants. All in all a waste of time. You'd be better off trying to pick up a shopper at the Whole Foods.

Mr Charmo
03-30-18, 10:04
I'll be getting a room downtown or near north, burbs tomorrow. Just need it long enough to let go of a couple loads of babies. Anyone down for a roomsplit, PM me.

Girl I'm seeing is pretty tight, but not open to friends yet.

FruitNinja
03-30-18, 12:17
Are either of these women available as escorts?Looks like this guy is advertising sites.

Mr Charmo
03-30-18, 17:07
Looks like this guy is advertising sites.Who, me? You came to that conclusion after digging through my old posts. That one was from 2016. Genius, I was just playing the long game. You caught me

I may have been away for a while, Fruitie, but I'm certainly not a bs links poster.

Lmao.

Mr Charmo
03-30-18, 17:17
I'm looking for a guy I can split girls with. Either girls that I'm no longer seeing and are getting out of the rotation, or girls that are open to meet friends or maybe do an MMF with a girl. Perhaps we can meet up for drinks with a couple hotties from time to time.
I haven't had time to put together a GB since last year, but that will come back up when my schedule frees up.

I know plenty of hobbies off this board who are down, just too busy to look up and contact at the moment.

Prefer someone downtown or north side. Though I do hit south and all areas and suburbs for a nice girl.

Mr Charmo
03-31-18, 11:42
I'll be getting a room downtown tonight. Will be done with my date around 10pm
Any guys down and / or have a girl for MMF or GB? Most of the girls I'm seeing aren't ready for group fun yet. Other than a young 20's white PAWG, but I'd have to pick her up far burbs.

Anyone have any leads or ideas, PM me.

Eric Lex
03-31-18, 17:29
I'll be getting a room downtown tonight. Will be done with my date around 10pm
Any guys down and / or have a girl for MMF or GB? Most of the girls I'm seeing aren't ready for group fun yet. Other than a young 20's white PAWG, but I'd have to pick her up far burbs.

Anyone have any leads or ideas, PM me.If I could, I would def connect with you, man. Too bad I don't have a bullpen like you, LOL.

Best of luck.

Mr Charmo
04-01-18, 06:10
Will be getting a room downtown tonight. Anyone interested in splitting, we can upgrade to something nicer. Or simply be econo hobbies on a regular room. It always feels like a waste to leave a whole day room after a short stay, especially a nice room.

I will need the room 7 pm-10pm.
PM me if interested

Mr Charmo
04-01-18, 06:15
If I could, I would def connect with you, man. Too bad I don't have a bullpen like you, LOL.

Best of luck.Not at all, Lex. It's barely spring training, and I'm trying to work on my farm system.

Mr Charmo
04-01-18, 06:51
Got the chance to take out a girl who liked the idea of p4 p. Couple of drinks and great convo. But when p4 p topic comes up she says it's not for her. Went back to her place and had a nice time. Play with no pay, off the books.

Not to brag, guys. I am by NO means a ladie's man. I simply got lucky and picked up on some cues.

Spring time, the girls are out there!

Mr Charmo
04-03-18, 01:49
I have posted this before, a while ago. Any hobbies interested in splitting an apartment for fun? Ideally a 1-bedroom apartment in the North side of the city, with easy access to a train line to downtown. Like a monger timeshare.

Split between 2-4 hobbies, setting up schedules. Can also be a poker night spot, watch sport events with female waitress.

I already have one hobby bud who has been asking for months. Anyone interested, PM me.

Mr Charmo
04-04-18, 22:25
Met a hobby friend this weekend who was telling me about latina spots that are by invite only. Where someone has to bring you in. With a chance to meet new friends fairly reg

I have not been introduced and don't know of any. So have no info to share.

Does anyone know of this kind of setup? PM me.

Eric Lex
04-05-18, 02:07
Met a hobby friend this weekend who was telling me about latina spots that are by invite only. Where someone has to bring you in. With a chance to meet new friends fairly reg

I have not been introduced and don't know of any. So have no info to share.

Does anyone know of this kind of setup? PM me.I'd be interested as well. Never heard of something like that here before.

LatinPoker
04-05-18, 07:56
Met a hobby friend this weekend who was telling me about latina spots that are by invite only. Where someone has to bring you in. With a chance to meet new friends fairly reg

I have not been introduced and don't know of any. So have no info to share.

Does anyone know of this kind of setup? PM me.This sounds like an awesome opportunity, should it be true. I'd SO be interested in said opportunity to "invite only" establishments.

Explorer8
04-05-18, 09:38
Got the chance to take out a girl who liked the idea of p4 p. Couple of drinks and great convo. But when p4 p topic comes up she says it's not for her. Went back to her place and had a nice time. Play with no pay, off the books.

Not to brag, guys. I am by NO means a ladie's man. I simply got lucky and picked up on some cues.

Spring time, the girls are out there!Nice bro. Quite honestly, I just don't have the time or patience to charm for pu$sy anymore. Whenever I do, then there are strings attached. I just want a no strings attached arrangement that doesn't break the bank LOL.

Walker333
04-05-18, 10:26
Met a hobby friend this weekend who was telling me about latina spots that are by invite only. Where someone has to bring you in. With a chance to meet new friends fairly reg

I have not been introduced and don't know of any. So have no info to share.

Does anyone know of this kind of setup? PM me.Long time ago (10 years or even more) I knew 2 ladies, one was from Dominican Republic, the other. Polish. They both worked out of their homes, and both of them used the similar screening method I. E. Every potential new client would have to be brought and introduced by an existing client "in good standing " Both women would not take unlimited number of new men, they regulated their "in take".

HakunaMatata
04-05-18, 12:29
I knew of such place, but it got busted last summer. Friend brought me in first time, and afterwards you just call before coming.

Latinas working only, changing every week. Had really good times there, and some not so good, but in general worth visit.

To my knowledge there are similar places, but obviously hard to get in.


Met a hobby friend this weekend who was telling me about latina spots that are by invite only. Where someone has to bring you in. With a chance to meet new friends fairly reg

I have not been introduced and don't know of any. So have no info to share.

Does anyone know of this kind of setup? PM me.

Walker333
04-05-18, 16:45
I knew of such place, but it got busted last summer. Friend brought me in first time, and afterwards you just call before coming.

Latinas working only, changing every week. Had really good times there, and some not so good, but in general worth visit.

To my knowledge there are similar places, but obviously hard to get in.What was damage there? Sure, there are a lot of mostly providers and some places like that. But most of them have the same providers for a long time. For those who are indifferent to diversity, it's good.

Mr Charmo
04-05-18, 20:05
What was damage there? Sure, there are a lot of mostly providers and some places like that. But most of them have the same providers for a long time. For those who are indifferent to diversity, it's good.I think you missed the part where Hakuna said that new things happen every week. Not the same old all the time.

Mr Charmo
04-05-18, 20:07
I knew of such place, but it got busted last summer. Friend brought me in first time, and afterwards you just call before coming.

Latinas working only, changing every week. Had really good times there, and some not so good, but in general worth visit.

To my knowledge there are similar places, but obviously hard to get in.Yes, that's pretty much the kinda place I was told of. From what i hear seems surprisingly inexpensive as well, especially compared to what some of the nonpros are asking for these days

HakunaMatata
04-06-18, 01:46
Compared to prices nowadays it was cheap. 40 for FS. It was my go to place for a while.

It was really hard to develop connection with girls tho, because they change every week.

It was basically good for quick release. I liked the thrill of going there not knowing who's.

Working, lots of disappointments, but sometimes diamonds in rough too.


Yes, that's pretty much the kinda place I was told of. From what i hear seems surprisingly inexpensive as well, especially compared to what some of the nonpros are asking for these days

Explorer8
04-06-18, 14:25
I knew of such place, but it got busted last summer. Friend brought me in first time, and afterwards you just call before coming.

Latinas working only, changing every week. Had really good times there, and some not so good, but in general worth visit.

To my knowledge there are similar places, but obviously hard to get in.Hey man,

Count me in! If you and Mr Charmo ever decide to check out these places, I'm your 3rd amigo! Let me know!

Erj1414
04-06-18, 18:13
Not sure if anyone noticed but along with Craigslist and Backpage, ThE otheR board is no longer allowing access, from the US.

Draconian times, friends.

We aren't going anywhere

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds

Just saying,

A2

Erj1414
04-06-18, 19:02
Not sure if it is just my computer but Angellis and You want to see me websites are down. Man this is getting bad.

Lauren01
04-06-18, 19:07
What is everyones thoughts on this?

PeterWanger69
04-06-18, 19:15
Looks like the oThER board bit the dust too. Sad. I guess the president can fuck a porn star but us average joes can't get our dicks wet anymore.

Do Me 2
04-06-18, 20:04
https://amp.thecut.com/2018/04/us-government-seizes-backpage-com-shuts-it-down.html

Lebruno
04-06-18, 20:46
https://amp.thecut.com/2018/04/us-government-seizes-backpage-com-shuts-it-down.htmlSadly true. Courtesy frickin FOSTA once again.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/backpage-seized-fbi-article-1.3919071

A lot of go to monger sites are crumbling down very fast.

This is a huge blow to freedom of speech. Expect to see agency prices shoot up crazy and implement a even more tougher screening process to get to play! This is Sad!

Ron M
04-06-18, 20:50
Almost all the sites I go to are offline or under maintenance.

Glad I got my bullpen locked in.

Ron M
04-06-18, 20:51
I hope we're safe here.

Deizel5
04-06-18, 22:13
I don't see how this is constitutional. These sites simply allow men and women to meet each other. The fact prostitution takes place has nothing to do with them. If I happen to meet a sex trafficker in a bar and we make a deal right there should the bar be legally liable? Its ridiculous.

Acidjazz
04-06-18, 22:30
escortfiles.com is "Parked" so any girl who had an ad site hosted by them now has no ad site. Seems like plenty of places are covering their ass now. If anyone has any idea how to find some good stuff let me know.

Dr Manhattan
04-07-18, 10:13
I first cut my teeth on massage classifieds almost 20 years ago, perusing the Chicago Reader ads. Now they've had their wings clipped, too.

http://marketplace.chicagoreader.com/reader-marketplace/

BlueUc
04-07-18, 11:00
Hopefully the classifieds will catch on, the Chicago section is a bit light.


Not sure if anyone noticed but along with Craigslist and Backpage, ThE otheR board is no longer allowing access, from the US.

Draconian times, friends.

We aren't going anywhere

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds

Just saying,

A2

Bknl441
04-07-18, 13:16
Probably not anywhere near a complete list, but you get the idea. Got a laugh out of the Amazon one even if it was only a glitch on their part (timing is everything).

http://thedrsuereview.com/list-of-fosta-sesta-fallout/

I guess with net neutrality a thing of the past things like this are inevitable.

Niceguy99
04-07-18, 13:33
How many providers do you think will go back to street walking? And do you think this will make prices go down?

Ump1969
04-07-18, 13:41
There are some bigger questions we should be asking. Large businesses break the law every day and the government says they are too big to fail. At Wells Fargo, employees were creating fake accounts? Has anyone been arrested? Facebook was misusing private info. Anyone shutting them down or arresting anyone? Big colleges cheat for athletes and no one is shutting them down. Crime at the federal level is a way of life. Why in this country do we have such a hangup about consensual sex? Oh, that's right, it spreads disease. Then why don't we outlaw sex since that happens with people not involved in prostitution, like guys and girls that barhop? It encourages drug use and other cromes since they are all on drugs. Why is their private habits our fault? You mean drug abuse woild go away if we stopped having sex with them? It breaks up families. I'm not married. Oh, that's right, there is no cheating except for guys doing prostitues. Maybe some federal nitwit can explain to me why this is such a big deal when we have much bigger crimes ruining people's lives every day and no one gets arrested for them. Don't even get me started on the lical level. Dart can't control his jail. Chicago can't stop carjackings or gangs selling drugs and shooting innocents. But they are making the streets safe from consenting adults.

Call Me Slappy
04-07-18, 13:48
There are some bigger questions we should be asking. Large businesses break the law every day and the government says they are too big to fail. At Wells Fargo, employees were creating fake accounts? Has anyone been arrested? Facebook was misusing private info. Anyone shutting them down or arresting anyone? Big colleges cheat for athletes and no one is shutting them down. Crime at the federal level is a way of life. Why in this country do we have such a hangup about consensual sex? Oh, that's right, it spreads disease. Then why don't we outlaw sex since that happens with people not involved in prostitution, like guys and girls that barhop? It encourages drug use and other cromes since they are all on drugs. Why is their private habits our fault? You mean drug abuse woild go away if we stopped having sex with them? It breaks up families. I'm not married. Oh, that's right, there is no cheating except for guys doing prostitues. Maybe some federal nitwit can explain to me why this is such a big deal when we have much bigger crimes ruining people's lives every day and no one gets arrested for them. Don't even get me started on the lical level. Dart can't control his jail. Chicago can't stop carjackings or gangs selling drugs and shooting innocents. But they are making the streets safe from consenting adults.Easy. The "right" people are making boatloads of money from all you list.

If this hobby was legalized or at least decriminalized and money was flowing in the "right" direction, well we all know money talks and bullshit takes a stroll.

Kingmaletx
04-07-18, 13:57
This needs to happen right now:

"But it's also interesting to see that sex workers are continuing to fight this -- including reports of a Google Doc making the rounds where sex workers can expose members of Congress who have used their service"

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180402/06272439542/sex-workers-fighting-back-against-sesta-fosta-with-their-own-social-network-plan-to-expose-politicians.shtml

But in matters that really matter. Has anybody ever heard of Chelsie (maybe Sophia?) out of Ohare?A Digits starting with 219? Can't decide if to take the plunge or not for a franklin. If anybody has any intel, let me know.

Desparado
04-07-18, 14:11
There are some bigger questions we should be asking. Large businesses break the law every day and the government says they are too big to fail. At Wells Fargo, employees were creating fake accounts? Has anyone been arrested? Facebook was misusing private info. Anyone shutting them down or arresting anyone? Big colleges cheat for athletes and no one is shutting them down. Crime at the federal level is a way of life. Why in this country do we have such a hangup about consensual sex? Oh, that's right, it spreads disease. Then why don't we outlaw sex since that happens with people not involved in prostitution, like guys and girls that barhop? It encourages drug use and other cromes since they are all on drugs. Why is their private habits our fault? You mean drug abuse woild go away if we stopped having sex with them? It breaks up families. I'm not married. Oh, that's right, there is no cheating except for guys doing prostitues. Maybe some federal nitwit can explain to me why this is such a big deal when we have much bigger crimes ruining people's lives every day and no one gets arrested for them. Don't even get me started on the lical level. Dart can't control his jail. Chicago can't stop carjackings or gangs selling drugs and shooting innocents. But they are making the streets safe from consenting adults.I posted on this shift by liberal-progressives way back on 9/29/09. If you value personal freedoms such as these your remedy is at the ballot box. Support conservative candidates that value personal freedom and liberty. The alternative is a "slow" tyranny. If anybody is not supporting conservative candidates but then complaining here, you need to wise up!

TonyDe
04-07-18, 16:08
I posted on this shift by liberal-progressives way back on 9/29/09. If you value personal freedoms such as these your remedy is at the ballot box. Support conservative candidates that value personal freedom and liberty. The alternative is a "slow" tyranny. If anybody is not supporting conservative candidates but then complaining here, you need to wise up!Yeh, but this bullshit has bipartisan support. When you throw in stuff about human trafficking and underage victims no politician is going to publicly oppose it. Personally I'd like to see any scumbags exploiting children or forcing unwilling women into prostitution thrown in prison for a long time. And any clients who knowingly support that shit also. Everyone I've ever met on Backpage was a willing adult so I don't see a problem. Why isnot this an issue in countries that either legalize or look the other way on this? That's most countries by the way.

Heathwood
04-07-18, 16:10
I could be wrong but we have a GOP House and Senate and a GOP President. It seems to me the conservatives are pushing this agenda. You may want to read some of what the US VP thinks about such matters.


I posted on this shift by liberal-progressives way back on 9/29/09. If you value personal freedoms such as these your remedy is at the ballot box. Support conservative candidates that value personal freedom and liberty. The alternative is a "slow" tyranny. If anybody is not supporting conservative candidates but then complaining here, you need to wise up!

Niceguy99
04-07-18, 16:42
I could be wrong but we have a GOP House and Senate and a GOP President. It seems to me the conservatives are pushing this agenda. You may want to read some of what the US VP thinks about such matters.I always thought this was the religious right / conservatives pushing this, and theyre in control right now.

Corncob
04-07-18, 17:03
How many providers do you think will go back to street walking? And do you think this will make prices go down?I'd bet quality locations and providers prices may go up.

Desparado
04-07-18, 20:14
I could be wrong but we have a GOP House and Senate and a GOP President. It seems to me the conservatives are pushing this agenda. You may want to read some of what the US VP thinks about such matters.Its about ideology, not politics. As I indicated in my post, this progressive movement started before the current congress. Make no mistake, conservatives value presonal freedoms and liberty so conservatives are not pushing this agenda, progressives are.

Desparado
04-07-18, 20:21
I always thought this was the religious right / conservatives pushing this, and theyre in control right now.No, conservatives value personal freedom and liberty, they would never push this agenda. They are not in control of everything. Certainly not the media, or academia. I am specifically addressing the shift from pursuing the provider to pursuing the customer as a priority as I indicated in my post from 2009.

Chicago41
04-07-18, 20:55
No, conservatives value personal freedom and liberty, they would never push this agenda. They are not in control of everything. Certainly not the media, or academia. I am specifically addressing the shift from pursuing the provider to pursuing the customer as a priority as I indicated in my post from 2009.You're confusing conservatives with Libertarians. The current admin and Republican party are in bed with all sorts of christian right loons.

Desparado
04-07-18, 21:54
You're confusing conservatives with Libertarians. The current admin and Republican party are in bed with all sorts of christian right loons.Conservatives are not in favor of social engineering and they don't think masculinity is toxic. Progressives pushed the agenda to pursue the customer instead of the provider. (And again, in the most general sense, this is broader than just the current administration and / or congress or party politics, although I understand the natural inclination to let the conversation digress to that.) If you don't understand what a conservative is read "Liberty and Tyranny" by Mark Levin.

Ump1969
04-08-18, 00:37
Easy. The "right" people are making boatloads of money from all you list.

If this hobby was legalized or at least decriminalized and money was flowing in the "right" direction, well we all know money talks and bullshit takes a stroll.I agree with some of what you say. But who's making money off of the closing of Backpage and Craigslust? Is the government allowing some larger corporation their own sex guides, because I haven't seen any? Do cops get paid more for prostitution arrests than drug busts? I know it's easier- the girls and guys don't shoot back. But who profits? The fact of the matter is that we have a huge hangup in this country of pretend Christianity about sex, more so than any other civiluzed country. Now I'll agree with you that here is where the money counts. You and I do street girls and get busted. Guys like our penis in chief do strippers, buy her expensive gifts, and everyone he knew probably thought he was a lucky stud. I'm not trying to get a political battle started. I'm only pointing out that only recently did anyone do anything about the rich pricks and only because the women aren't satisfied with being goldiggers and simply giving into rich men any more. Ordinary guys doing cheap sex were fair game. I wonder how many of the people going after Craigslist and Backpage have gotten some nooky on the side or before they were married. Anyway, my original post was merely to point out that ordinary guys like you and me were fair game, we were low hanging fruit, and there was no good reason for it other than for a few god people and attention grabbing pols to score some points.

Hrodebert
04-08-18, 00:42
+1000 I have an answer for you. Religion. Religion controls women, and, thereby controls men.


There are some bigger questions we should be asking. Large businesses break the law every day and the government says they are too big to fail. At Wells Fargo, employees were creating fake accounts? Has anyone been arrested? Facebook was misusing private info. Anyone shutting them down or arresting anyone? Big colleges cheat for athletes and no one is shutting them down. Crime at the federal level is a way of life. Why in this country do we have such a hangup about consensual sex? Oh, that's right, it spreads disease. Then why don't we outlaw sex since that happens with people not involved in prostitution, like guys and girls that barhop? It encourages drug use and other cromes since they are all on drugs. Why is their private habits our fault? You mean drug abuse woild go away if we stopped having sex with them? It breaks up families. I'm not married. Oh, that's right, there is no cheating except for guys doing prostitues. Maybe some federal nitwit can explain to me why this is such a big deal when we have much bigger crimes ruining people's lives every day and no one gets arrested for them. Don't even get me started on the lical level. Dart can't control his jail. Chicago can't stop carjackings or gangs selling drugs and shooting innocents. But they are making the streets safe from consenting adults.

Oddjob
04-08-18, 04:39
SESTA was authored and sponsored by Senator Rob Portman (R-Ohio), while FOSTA was authored and sponsored by Rep. Anne Wagner (R-Missouri). The combined bills are also heavy supported that progressive, liberal Tom Dart (R-Cook County).

Chicago41
04-08-18, 08:49
Conservatives are not in favor of social engineering and they don't think masculinity is toxic. Progressives pushed the agenda to pursue the customer instead of the provider. (And again, in the most general sense, this is broader than just the current administration and / or congress or party politics, although I understand the natural inclination to let the conversation digress to that.) If you don't understand what a conservative is read "Liberty and Tyranny" by Mark Levin.The bills were authored by Republicans. Congress is dominated by Republicans. Republican president. I know what a conservative is, Levin's book notwithstanding, and I've seen what the GOP has done and tried to do since Reagan, with the family values moralism BS. Trying to blame liberals for this mess is ludicrous.

Deizel5
04-08-18, 10:40
The bills were authored by Republicans. Congress is dominated by Republicans. Republican president. I know what a conservative is, Levin's book notwithstanding, and I've seen what the GOP has done and tried to do since Reagan, with the family values moralism BS. Trying to blame liberals for this mess is ludicrous.100% agreed. Seriously how can you blame democrats for this?

Niceguy99
04-08-18, 11:35
The bills were authored by Republicans. Congress is dominated by Republicans. Republican president. I know what a conservative is, Levin's book notwithstanding, and I've seen what the GOP has done and tried to do since Reagan, with the family values moralism BS. Trying to blame liberals for this mess is ludicrous.Sounds like truth to me 100% agreed as well.

Member #1232
04-08-18, 11:46
Not sure if they will get shut down again but I hope that this is a sign that the hobby is starting to recover from the mass censorship that hit us a few days ago.

Member #1232
04-08-18, 14:40
Not sure if they will get shut down again but I hope that this is a sign that the hobby is starting to recover from the mass censorship that hit us a few days ago.Sorry, spell checker changed "E" "M" to 'them'. Should have been Er*tic M*nkey.

Deizel5
04-08-18, 15:31
The bills were authored by Republicans. Congress is dominated by Republicans. Republican president. I know what a conservative is, Levin's book notwithstanding, and I've seen what the GOP has done and tried to do since Reagan, with the family values moralism BS. Trying to blame liberals for this mess is ludicrous.100% agreed. Seriously how can you blame democrats for this?

TonyDe
04-08-18, 20:10
100% agreed. Seriously how can you blame democrats for this?Enough of them voted for it to pass. Democrats / Reublicans =a double headed dildo. Some guys have a preference which end goes up they're ass. Me personally? I think both sides are shitty and would just as soon find a different, less intrusive system.

Bm392
04-08-18, 20:19
I was thinking the same thing. I bet that the SW who recently came to BP will go back to the street (if allowed). LEO seems to have increased patrols in places like Harvey.

I'm thinking that the. 8-1. 5 providers will stick to regulars for awhile. Prices are probably going up for the 1. 5 providers. It might be time for all of us to get a steady freaky girlfriend for awhile. LOL.


How many providers do you think will go back to street walking? And do you think this will make prices go down?

BigTelevision
04-08-18, 20:37
By using the Tor browser.

There are ways to circumvent the IP address blocking.

Bob521
04-08-18, 22:15
I believe this is a bipartisan issue. Something both liberals and conservatives can get behind. The segment of democrats is (I hate to say) those women that believe men subjugate women. The segment of the republicans is the religious right. The question gets framed in terms nobody would oppose: EG: Are you in favor or against sex traffiking? In a climate of political bipolarism they always look for common ground.

Bob.


No, conservatives value personal freedom and liberty, they would never push this agenda. They are not in control of everything. Certainly not the media, or academia. I am specifically addressing the shift from pursuing the provider to pursuing the customer as a priority as I indicated in my post from 2009.

Bob521
04-08-18, 22:32
Goddamit!

I saw the Backpage stuff and didn't realize they hit Craigslist Massage Section also. My clean ad was removed - "Removed for Violating Terms of Service".

As you know we run a clean shop. http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag

Some of our best customers are members of the forum. They are perfect gentlemen with our therapists. We provide excellent therapeutic massage and nothing more. Well. Standing shower, sauna, water, tea / coffee candy. Anyway, I'm not sure where to advertise now. A2 and I talked a year ago about advertising on the forum but we both decided it would not work. I'm on Facebook, Google, Yelp. Not sure where else to go. We got a 1-star yelp review (all the others at 5-Star) Woman was pissed she got a 60 minute foot massage instead of a 60 minute 1/2 foot 1/2 body massage. She demanded a a refund or she would write a terrible review. At first I agreed, but when I met her I realized it was a shakedown. She stood in our lobby yelling at customers entering. Actually scared a customer away.

So if anyone has suggestions, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance! Bob

Hrodebert
04-09-18, 02:06
The vote was 97 - 2 in the senate. Only 25 Representatives voted against it, 14 Republicans, and 11 Democrats. This means the House vote could have been 410 - 25.


Enough of them voted for it to pass. Democrats / Reublicans =a double headed dildo. Some guys have a preference which end goes up they're ass. Me personally? I think both sides are shitty and would just as soon find a different, less intrusive system.

Riina
04-09-18, 09:38
Someone should reach out to NG and have them post on usaac. This forum was a core part of their business.

Desparado
04-09-18, 13:23
I believe this is a bipartisan issue. Something both liberals and conservatives can get behind. The segment of democrats is (I hate to say) those women that believe men subjugate women. The segment of the republicans is the religious right. The question gets framed in terms nobody would oppose: EG: Are you in favor or against sex traffiking? In a climate of political bipolarism they always look for common ground.

Bob.The shift to more aggressively pursue the customer as opposed to the provider happened at least 10 years ago, pre-dating the current congress. (Refer to my post from 2009 marking this in time.) Conservatives generally oppose social engineering and generally oppose trying to solve social problems with legislation because they believe the government is not well suited to solve social problems. Its not surprising that republican legislators don't oppose this bill when it comes to a vote for the reasons you cited regarding the religious right sub-segment. But I am speaking of ideology and culture and you are talking of party politics. Conservatives don't iniitiate social engineering legislation. This is just another liberal / progressive attempt at social engineering and thinking that all problems can be solved by the government. Conservatives don't think that masculinity is "toxic. ".

(If you want to understand conservatives better is read "Liberty & Tyranny" by Mark Levin).

Ready Freddie
04-09-18, 14:12
Someone should reach out to NG and have them post on usaac. This forum was a core part of their business.That's funny, I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I was going to PM you and see if you could let them know. It seemed like you had an "in" there. I don't have any of the current line-up's numbers.

Riina
04-09-18, 14:34
That's funny, I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I was going to PM you and see if you could let them know. It seemed like you had an "in" there. I don't have any of the current line-up's numbers.I just pm'd you Lara's number. I'd do it, but I'm not a Ng fan.

Zeuss
04-09-18, 21:55
The vote was 97 - 2 in the senate. Only 25 Representatives voted against it, 14 Republicans, and 11 Democrats. This means the House vote could have been 410 - 25.That's one of those things that they all can support since it sounds so good and it gives them much needed positive media coverage.

So this trafficking war is going on at least 15 years. How many Billions of dollars have they squandered and have they actually made any progress reducing the actual human and underage trafficking, which (in this country) isn't really a problem?

Kingmaletx
04-09-18, 23:16
Goddamit!

I saw the Backpage stuff and didn't realize they hit Craigslist Massage Section also. My clean ad was removed - "Removed for Violating Terms of Service".

As you know we run a clean shop. http://massage0110.wixsite.com/sunshinehealthmassag

Thanks in advance! BobOff topic, but geez, that site crawls! 1999 is calling! Hosting your own domain is not that expensive; about 30 dollars yearly fee for hosting cost, maybe cheaper; domain is about 12 bucks a year, and you can create a site with wordpress templates, which can be free if you don't want some overpriced web developer. For less than 50 a year, you would have a professional site, fast running site. And it might even show up on google search!

Mr Charmo
04-09-18, 23:34
Looks like I picked a great time to jump back into the scene! With all these sites getting shit down. Are there any hobbies out there experienced with nonpros that would be interested in having a friend or two to swap or share?

Throughout the years I have hooked friends up with some great girls. Given everything going on, it seems like a good idea to have solid friends with whom to share, double date, etc.

Some girls have girl friends who wouldn't mind meeting a guy. Or in case there are girls that are getting worked out of the rotation. Might be a good idea to pull resources together.

Ideal is a hobby experienced with nonpros. I will still hook friends up with those girls looking for more friends, as I always have. Though right now I'm looking for something reciprocal, not just share girls I know for nothing. Any interested and experienced nonpro hobbies, PM me.