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Call Me Booger
01-05-06, 18:39
This is my first post, but I'm a longtime lurker. I didn't have the proper set up to post but want to thank all the posters for the great info. Now onto the information about CLV.

I've actually am going to go out on a limb here and say that I actually prefer CLV over the Executive.

At CLV, the talent is very hit and miss. You have the Grandmas that have been there forever, but lately seem to be getting some better talent in their 20's and 30's. The only problem is going when they are available.

Susan is my favorite. She has brown hair a nice body and good face, tits are a little on the saggy side, probably around 28 y.o. Her massage technique is good. Usual rules apply but is fluent in russian.

Amy is kind of what I would call your typical stripper in the looks dept. Dirty blonde hair, 30ish, decent body, small tits. Good massage with some russian.

They have a couple other 30 to 40 something gals that I have not seen yet, but all in all CLV is getting better

Call Me Booger
01-09-06, 18:38
I've going to the Executive over the past 6 months, and thought I would give a breakdown of some of the different girls I've seen there. The list is in no paticular order as each girl rates about the overall same.

Jenny-For beginners out there, this would be a good starting point. Jenny has a cute face with blond hair, probably 35ish, decent body, a little big from the butt down. Jenny gives a nice massage, and she likes to chat about various things, but gets down to business at appropriate time.

Kara-Kara I would say gives the best rubdown. She has brown curly hair with a cute face, probably about the same age as Jenny, and similar body type. Kara likes to give special attention to the butt area during rubdown, and delivers an overall nice finish.

Dora-As talked about on this board, Dora is a little different. She has an accent, I think Polish. She has large fake D's, and a nice body and face. Dora overall is probably the best looking body and face. But she is somewhat mechanical, and tends to talk about weird stuff during the massage. I would only repeat with Dora, if no other good choice is available.

Late 20's biracial girl whom I can't remember her name. She is a pretty girl with a great ass and small tata's. She's very mechanical and not very fun. I'm sorry I can't rember her name. Would not repeat.

Booger

Ken Blue Eyes
01-10-06, 15:10
This is my first post, but I'm a longtime lurker. I didn't have the proper set up to post but want to thank all the posters for the great info. Now onto the information about CLV.

I've actually am going to go out on a limb here and say that I actually prefer CLV over the Executive.

At CLV, the talent is very hit and miss. You have the Grandmas that have been there forever, but lately seem to be getting some better talent in their 20's and 30's. The only problem is going when they are available.

Susan is my favorite. She has brown hair a nice body and good face, tits are a little on the saggy side, probably around 28 y.o. Her massage technique is good. Usual rules apply but is fluent in russian.

Amy is kind of what I would call your typical stripper in the looks dept. Dirty blonde hair, 30ish, decent body, small tits. Good massage with some russian.

They have a couple other 30 to 40 something gals that I have not seen yet, but all in all CLV is getting better


I've also had decent luck at clv. I like the shower in the room, as compared to a shared shower between rooms. More women are available to choose from at Executive, but there haven't been that many fresh faces lately to choose from. I think I saw Susan last time at CLV(been about a month); she did a good job but access was limited. She claimed that it was that time of the month, so the panties didn't even come off. I would like to know that up front before heading back to the room. It was still a good session, considering. Even with the rules these places have, if the girl is creative, it can still be a helluva erotic and satisfying experience.

It's good to keep a little bit of competition going between the joints. The customer can only win.

Ken

Call Me Booger
01-10-06, 18:17
Hey Ken Blue Eyes, I agree the shower in the room is nicer, now if they would just get rid of that community soap bar. No offence mongers, but we all don't need to be sharing the same soap.

Now onto a report, I spent time with Ashley, early twenties light brown hair, innocent looking face. Ashley's body would be a 6 in my book. Nice bottom, small up top, and a drinker's belly. Ashley delivers an okay session, nothing out of the ordinary. She gives a decent rub and finish, but nothing to call home about; scratch that probably not calling home would be better. I would only repeat if a better option was not available.

I went in the morning and there were four providers all together. Ginger, older 50 something, who has been mentioned on this board, and I think she is a CLV lifer. Mandy, a late 30 to 40 something that is rail thin dishwater blond hair, with a really make-up filled face. The other gal was I believe Gingers Grandma, which should say everything about her.

Slammer 82
01-13-06, 05:21
Its been a while since my last post. Since then curiosity got me and I finally had a session with Michelle at Executive. All I have to say is "Wow!". This woman's performance is incredible. Although she is older and doesn't have the body of some of the younger girls there (she lost a lot of weight and has a lot of loose skin) she really makes up for it during the session. I particularly liked how she oiled herself up and massaged me by rubbing her body ALL over mine. I've always been partial to the younger better looking girls at Exec. but I wouldn't hesitate to have a repeat session with Michelle.

Booger, you said that you preferred CLV to Exec. but than stated that its hit or miss there. I was just wondering how you could choose CLV. At least in my experiences Executive is always a hit. Neither place is going to break any rules but at least Exec always provides a standard happy ending. Its been quite a while since I've been to CLV so maybe things have changed for the better. I stopped going there about 4 yrs or so ago because service just got horrible. One time I went the whole session w/o even being touched. Talk about feeling like an idiot for paying $85 to watch some girl model around in lingerie. I do agree that the competition between the two places is nice to have. I also used to prefer CLV about 6-7 yrs. ago. It stayed open late at night and Exec. closed at 5. There was also a girl named April there who was my ATF. Any of you longtimers remember her?

Well, I guess I should go. Hopefully if the good post about CLV keep coming in I'll have to give them another shot. Til then you can see me at Exec.

Later,

Slammer

Pluto2
01-13-06, 17:08
Just a quick reminder that we are heading into the next election cycle.

Think before you post so that you don't give some political hack ammunition for throwing honest people, that work for a living, out on the street.

Suggest that comments are kept to cleanliness, appearance, attitude and would or would not recommend.

Don't ruin the party!

Pluto2
01-16-06, 13:53
Visited ERS the other day.

Still one of the cleanest places anywhere in the US or the world. Showers re-done, and some new carpeting. Rooms could use some large mirrors. Rooms could also use temperature gauges since they frequently feel cold like a restaurant that wants you to eat fast and run. I'm not sure what the right number is, but I'm guessing that 74-75 degrees would be more comfortable than 66-68.

Still professionally managed. A giant plus with the owner more active in the business.

Staff has been upgraded substantially over the last year, there is still some progress that could be made here including adding some part timers. There used to be part timers. Part timers usually have the best attitudes and frequently the best appearance. For most part timers this is a second job. Answers that I get frequently from part timers are: I don't like sitting at home all day so I come here, I work too many hours and don't get to socialize much so I come here on the way home for a few hours, I need some extra money to party with on the weekends so I work here until 9pm on Fridays and Saturdays then meet my friends at a disco.

Since everyone is now a certified masseuse, there should be a rule put into place that every customer gets a good massage. My back needs the attention. Attendants should have to stay in the room for the full time even if that means sitting there alone, no one likes to be rushed for the next revenue opportunity. Management needs to enforce this with no exceptions, an hour is an hour. This would also be more fair to the workers that take their time with the customers and don't rush them.

I guess that tattoos are in, personally when a girl has more tattoos than my Marine friends, it makes me wonder.

Jimbo33
01-17-06, 10:27
Heading to a Disco? What's that? :)

Pluto2
01-17-06, 12:19
If ancient memories serve me correctly, a disco is where girls in the 18 to 25 range go to dance.

Donna Summers is still on the top ten isn’t she? Lionel Ritchie still the top crooner?

I need to lather up my platform shoes and press my bell bottoms and make the scene this weekend.

I am so excited that I am going to dust off the needle on my turntable and spin some Bee Gees after I finish this post.

Chief_Wiggum
01-17-06, 17:29
What? They're certified now at ERS? I find that hard to believe, and expensive, too. Do you know how long it takes to be certified? I've always advocated certification because it brings so much value. For me, for instance, I would be less critical about the weight (though I already am because I'm a fan of monster racks).

Pluto2
01-18-06, 11:13
My understanding is that the socialist political hacks in Springfield required that all employees at clinincs be registered, which I assume also means certified?

Maybe this was just another revenue measure for income redistribution from working people to those who don't work just move paper or stay home watching TV.

Pluto2
01-18-06, 11:51
Reading the posts about the good old days brought back some 20 year old memories about Belvedere. I'll confine my comments to staffing.

For years, the staffing quality at ERS went down every year as more and more of the rotund (or heavily weathered), 40+, chain-smoking employees began to hang around waiting for their 20 years and a pension.

At any company, once you hit a critical mass of this type, they go after the younger, thinner and more attractive women with a vengeance. This is especially true when there is competition for male attention. Call it jealousy and competition. At one of the brand name companies where I worked, the entire HR department was populated with a few castrated males and a lot of bloated-vindictive want-to-be dykes that were still married or divorced. They made it impossible for any woman under 30 that was even remotely attractive to work there.

I don't know what happened to finally get them out of ERS, I had all but stopped visiting the place. The money at these places is good by any measure and the management should be able to get "good employees" provided that they don't have to let the hags “freeze them out" once they arrive. A lot of the most attractive (and best attitude) employees at this place, and others, were first timers (and or part timers) that needed some extra green and were willing to work hard for 6 month or year then move on.

I hope that ERS continues to move in the right direction.

Lori, Patrice and currently Nicole are the three bels in my mind. Unfortunately, the first two moved on several years ago.

Call Me Booger
01-18-06, 17:52
Slammer,

When I mention that CLV is hit or miss, I meant that if the good talent is busy, you don't have a reliable back up choice. I just don't get into the Grandma thing. And yes Executive does have more better looking providers, it's just the same mechanical routine gets rather old after a while. I've found that some of the providers at CLV provide a more creative finish (all within rules).

Also it looks like we have some LEO paranoia going on here. Is there really something to this?

And Chief Wiggum good to see you posting, as newbie/lurker I utilized a lot of your info. Little Booger thanks you.

Call Me Booger
01-24-06, 18:59
I stopped in to CLV at the beginning of the day. I think I was the first customer of the day. Anyways, they had four girls working that I could tell. Ashley, Ginger, Mandy and Nancy. All of which have been mentioned on this board recently.

Today, I picked Nancy who is about 5'5", 120 pounds, enhanced up top, probably 38-42 age wise.

Nancy provides one of the best rub-downs, I've had at one of these places. She really tries to give a good massage, with special attention to the lower back and other sore muscles. Her end of massage technique is quite good. I would bump her close to the top of my Belvidere list based on overall performance. Highly Recommend.

Call Me Booger
01-25-06, 10:47
I forgot to mention in my previous post the price is now $95 at CLV.

Quick Nick
02-01-06, 02:09
I went to CLV for a change of pace a couple of fridays ago. I chose Susan. She did an ok job, but kept hinting for tips. I hate that. She kept saying the more tip she got the naughtier we would get. She is a good salesman and I ended up throwing an extra $45 into the mix. She is also a "truth stretcher" because nothing extra was available at all. I should have known better after all of this time.

It was a good visit. She has a great rack, and allowed play, but not worth the extra tip. --my opinion

--qn

Ken Blue Eyes
02-01-06, 15:40
I went to CLV for a change of pace a couple of fridays ago. I chose Susan. She did an ok job, but kept hinting for tips. I hate that. She kept saying the more tip she got the naughtier we would get. She is a good salesman and I ended up throwing an extra $45 into the mix. She is also a "truth stretcher" because nothing extra was available at all. I should have known better after all of this time.

It was a good visit. She has a great rack, and allowed play, but not worth the extra tip. --my opinion

--qn

It's been my experience that the providers at CLV are happy with a $20 tip. I tip that much at either place. The increase in the door fee, however, pisses me off a bit. It's not like the service at CLV is 10% better. They're basically the same, except for different providers to choose from.

Ken

Hobby Lover
02-02-06, 00:46
What is the expected tip if you get the basic service at one of the belvidere locations? I plan on going to one of them in the next couple of weeks and want to be fair.

Pluto2
02-04-06, 18:17
The tip is built into the price and un-necessary. These girls make good money.

If you leave five or ten, it is generous. There is no variability in the service and anyone that states differently is blowing smoke.

If you get bad service, find a different provider, the tip wont change the attitude.

midwestrt
02-06-06, 11:17
Recently I had a visit with someone at Exec who's name I can not remember. Older woman; long dark hair, a little bigger but not fat. Anyway it was my second visit with her and after I paid her I laid $25 on the plate as a tip and she said "how about we go for two times today?". I don't know if she would have said that had I put the $25 down or not, but just thought I'd throw that out.

Also wanted to say that recently I ignored the warnings of not choosing Sarah and had one of the worst Exec experiences I have had. Would definitely not chose her again.

Ken Blue Eyes
02-06-06, 13:17
Tipping is optional. I agree that it won't get you additional items on the menu.
I tip for good attitude and technique. I have "not tipped" at Exec when the attitude and/or technique was lacking. The amount to tip is personal; use a percentage that you would for a good waitress, barber, or traditional massage therapist.

Ken

Turkey John
02-07-06, 13:28
I was at Exec last week and heard a new name....Judy. I did not see her, but am always interested in new talent. Has anyone met her?

Also, while I was there I saw a middle aged woman come down the stairs in business attire. I later confirmed that this is the owner. I am partial to older gals and she was a looker. Anyone know anything about her?


TJ

BibiBiloui
02-09-06, 09:52
Your post about tipping makes me feel like less of a cheapskate. I was a frequent visitor to the Exec back before I knew about this board and I never tipped unless the service was exceptional (I had no idea what the protocol was). After reading this board for a few years, I was starting to think that I'd really done these girls a disservice and that everybody else was dropping an extra 50% every time they went, regardless of the service. I still wish I'd been a little more generous, but at least now I don't feel too far out of line.

"The tip is built into the price and un-necessary. These girls make good money.

If you leave five or ten, it is generous. There is no variability in the service and anyone that states differently is blowing smoke.

If you get bad service, find a different provider, the tip wont change the attitude."

Paul D
02-09-06, 12:38
Turkey John,

Unless there's been a change, the owner would be Linda, aka Robin, who started ERS with Brandy after they both left CLV back in the mid 70s.

She always DID look good and kept herself up well. I'm sure she could step back into an RA role any time she wanted and give any of her employees a run for their money.

IMHO

Call Me Booger
02-09-06, 19:02
Okay, so I decided to try someone different at CLV today-Ginger. I've mentioned Ginger before, and I believe some other board members have too. Ginger is easily 50+ something. She's in good shape for an older gal, and says that she has been at CLV for a long time. I usually opt for the late 20 to early 30 y/old providers, but thought why not let's give her a try. Ginger has an aged face from tanning/smoking, and has a thin body with a little sagginess from age. So she is definately not the most stunning I've seen, or make the top ten for that matter.

But where her looks and age hamper her, her massage skills make up for it. She gives a very good/strong massage. Works out a lot of sore muscles and kinks, and tries very hard to make the massage part of the experience memorable. As she is finishing up the massage, she has a very unique two handed style that was great. Very talented finish.

So would I repeat? Yes, I probably would.

Door Fee $95
Tip $30

Okay, don't slam me for the $30 tip till you try her. It was worth the extra $10.

Booger

TheShadow2
02-09-06, 20:49
Ken Blue Eyes sums up my opinion pretty well. I've talked at length with one of the gals on this subject. Believe me, a tip is expected. I always leave one, 10 would be a bare minimum, 20 average, more depending on the service. (Did you get two pops, was she really enthusiastic, cooperative, etc.)
If you are the kind that doesn't tip a waitress, you won't tip here I guess.
And we don't know how much these gals make, do we? I was always told they got half the door fee and the tips. So, if a gal sees two guys a day, wow, she made a whole 80-90 dollars...
Tips are expected at any Asian Massage Parlor, read the boards. Even with a tip, you're getting good value at Executive.

Slammer 82
02-10-06, 04:08
I usually tip $15 (the change from the hundred I lay out at the beginning of the session). Sometimes a little more (20-25) depending on the service and sometimes not at all depending on the service. Because I usually only get there once every couple of months and usually see a different girl every time I realize that by time I see a girl twice she will have no idea how much I tipped her the first time if any. Usually she doesn't remember me anyhow. That being said I will tip a girl who puts a little extra effort into the session. Maybe by her allowing more hand roaming, a unique finish, or just having a pleasant attitude. However, if she just performs the standard service with nothing extra why should she be rewarded for it? It would provide no incentive to try and make the session more enjoyable if she knows she's getting tipped either way. This usually hasn't been a problem for me at Exec. because the girls there have almost always had very good attitudes during the session.

On another note about a year ago there was a lot of mention of girls at Exec. offering two pops during the session. It doesn't seem that any reports of late include this in the menu. I personally have never been offered it there but have had sessions with girls who were apparently offering it to others. I was just wondering how you go about asking for it. Do you use the words "pops" or "cups of tea" or are those just message board terms? Don't want her thinking I want two cans of coke.

It seems there are a lot more positive posts coming from CLV as of late. I was tossing around the notion of stopping in there next time I'm in town and then I read that they raised their rates to $95. What are they thinking? When you've been the #2 place on the block for at least the last 5 yrs. you don't charge more than your competition. I just hope that Exec. doesn't decide to follow suit.

Well gotta run. Play safe guys.

Slammer

Chief_Wiggum
02-10-06, 16:39
most girls I've talked to don't expect a tip. My guess if the girl expects a tip, expect poor service (though I've never gotten it myself). I may tip either 5 or 10, depending if I've seen the girl before and if she remembers me. Basically, the most my total cash outlay is $100, but I average $90. Don't think that these girls don't make a lot of money. They average what, $40/hr? Granted, they don't work 8 hours a day (I don't even think professional masseuses do), but remember that $40/hr roughly translates to $80k/yr. For what? Handjobs? (some groping, some licking). In reality, the last girl I talked to a lot there (should still work there) worked like maybe 20 hrs/wk. For that economy and for the value that they bring, that's a good deal for them. Think about it, if the money was so bad, we would be seeing a lot of basket cases and girls ranking a 4 on the SW scale. Luckily we get 5s and 6s and the occasional 7. Speaking of which, are there any skinny girls there?

On getting two cups: I just ask for it. If the girl doesn't know what I'm talking about, I let it go and I probably won't tip (or tip small) (yes, yes, yes, I know, I'm a bastard). If the girl is cool about it with no hesitation, then I'll tip my max. Oh, and you have to skip the spa. Last time I was there, most girls want to skip the spa anyway.

Call Me Booger
02-10-06, 17:15
Hey Chief,

At CLV during the day-time, there is a super skinny dishwater blond late 30's girl (name might be Mandy). I've seen her in the lobby a couple of times, but I haven't picked her yet. I was going to the other day but she was not available.

Regarding girls asking for tips, some do and some don't. It seems the older ones always say that "Tips are appreciated" at the beginning, but I never tip till the end. I vary from 20 depending on service.

Two pops have been more possible at CLV than at Executive in my experience. I tipped a girl $40 once, and the next session she offered up two pops.

Any reports on Exec?

TheShadow2
02-10-06, 20:08
With all due respect, I disagree with a couple of your points. First, they may make 40 dollars an "hour", but if they only see two clients a day, thats 80 per day. 80 x 5 (if they work five days and most do) = 400 per week. If they work 50 weeks a year, that's 20,000 per year. Now maybe some of the girls may average 4 guys a day, now you're up to 40,000 per year for the most popular ones.
I think the reason you don't see crack ho's and basket cases there are simple.
One, they would not hire them, it would be bad for business and Exec has proven they're no dummies. Two, they would not make any money. Not enough people would pick the crack ho more than maybe once a day if she was lucky, and 40 bucks doesn't buy much crack.
I'm also stunned that the girls you've talked to don't expect a tip. I've had lengthy conversations with several of the girls, and recall their complaints about guys stiffing them. (pun intended.)
One girl actually worked it into the conversation at the beginning of the massage. I told her I always tip for a happy ending, and that I tip additional if I had more than one cup of coffee. Man, she perked up immediately and went about enthusiastically serving me more than one cup. It was one of my best sessions there and I tipped accordingly.

As for how to ask, if you ask about "multiples" the girls know what you mean.
Keep in mind not all will do it. Dora won't, but since she is the hottest one there I'm sure she does allright on a numbers basis.

Rub Me Right
02-11-06, 23:04
As far as "multiple cups" at Executive are concerned. Choose Kara. If she sees you at "full staff" before even starting, she will suggest it. That has been my exprirence anyway. She also has a nice technique that allows for a happy ending while lying on your stomach. Kind of unique.

Pluto2
02-12-06, 16:48
Clients, Rate, Wk 5 days, 50 week year
...1..... 40....... 200..... 10000
...2..... 40....... 400..... 20000
...3..... 40....... 600..... 30000
...4..... 40....... 800..... 40000
...5..... 40..... 1000..... 50000
...6..... 40..... 1200..... 60000
...7..... 40..... 1400..... 70000
...8..... 40..... 1600..... 80000

Top earners probably do better

Turkey John
02-12-06, 17:35
If you call for an appointment, that ties them up for two hours.

TJ

Ci-Traveler
02-12-06, 18:15
most girls I've talked to don't expect a tip. My guess if the girl expects a tip, expect poor service (though I've never gotten it myself).............On getting two cups: I just ask for it. If the girl doesn't know what I'm talking about, I let it go and I probably won't tip (or tip small) (yes, yes, yes, I know, I'm a bastard). If the girl is cool about it with no hesitation, then I'll tip my max. Oh, and you have to skip the spa. Last time I was there, most girls want to skip the spa anyway.

You think that's bad - I NEVER tip at ERS. Never had a bad time except with Dora who was talkative and impersonal. Great body and great looking - but boring otherwise. Tipping is NOT expected - just appreciated. If I go to an AMP - it's $40 for 30 minutes and another .4 for the HJ. That's the rate - and that's what I do at ERS as well. Yeah - I'm a fuckin' cheapskate.

I take that back - the one time I did tip (.2) was with a tall blonde - green eyes - who gave me two shots - and that was worth it. Her technique was amazing.

ci-traveler

Chief_Wiggum
02-13-06, 19:03
I see CI-Traveler and I are from the same stock. If I wanted expensive sex, I would still be seeing my last gold-digger girlfriend.

Shadow, I know where you are coming from. Even if I don't post about it, I do have compassion about it. But, I've come to the realization that 1) they actually chose to be in that situation; 2) if circumstances beyond their control put them there (i.e. in that position, no pun intended), they are going to need more than their own resources to get them out. For example, like 90% have kids, mostly through teen pregnancy. Home life probably wasn't that great either. This job gives them the money and flexibility to be at home and be a semi-good provider. I'm not going to name names, but one girl was able to buy a house. Also, they're all independent contractors, so other than health insurance (which I haven't asked about, maybe I'll take a trip this month), they can work the taxes to their benefit (i.e. they deduct everything). Anyway, I'll get off the soapbox for now.

What does Kara look like? Dora is that hot? I thought she was overweight like the majority of them?

Trash Talk
02-13-06, 20:56
Been a long time lurker and finally registered.

At Executive you get a service. A massage and good company with a happy ending. It is only rite to tip. If you get a massage at a day spa you tip. If you go to a restaurant you tip. It is expected. These girls can't tell you you must tip or they risk thier jobs. They can't tell you much of how they really feel or they can be fired.

You truly are cheep if you don't tip.

I have been going to that place for years and see various girls. I am thankful for that place and the service provided. I respect the girls and show it. I don't judge these girls for what they do or how they look. WE are the ones going there paying them for "attention" in everyway. They are there to make a living. We are the ones who should be looking in the mirror if we want to judge anyone.

We pick them. They do not pick us. I am sure "from what a few girls have told me" if they could deny half of us they would.

Just my 2 cents.

Bulls143
02-14-06, 02:36
Ive seen Kara once about a year ago. Shes has baby fat but has nice cans and is a lil bit better than average and is really down to earth. I recommend her. Ive never seen Dora so the time is cumming.

TheShadow2
02-14-06, 14:40
Dora is in my opinion way hotter than the other girls at exec. Her face is beautiful, when you see her sitting with the others you'll notice the difference. She's got short blonde hair, nice complexion, great lips and eyes. She's a little on the "thick" side, but her body is very nice, firm in all the right places, still has a flat stomach. Her boobs are big and store bought, but on her body they fit her nicely.
She is a sweet gal, but you'll get "less" with her than almost any of the others, she has rules and off limits, and just forget about mulitple cups of coffee. She is cooperative and sensuous within her limits. It's just a trade-off.

Good sharing of opinion and info lately guys, that's what we're here for...
Ci-traveler, I look at it the same way, but you have to admit it's getting harder and harder to find an HJ for 80 at the AMPS as common as it once was.
P.S. Kara is not bad looking, and a little younger than some of the others. I haven't seen her personally, but all I can remember are good posts about her.
She will do multiples according to one of the gals, and I've enjoyed more than one with Michelle and Sherry.

Pluto2
02-14-06, 15:18
For all the talk, Republicans hate a free market.

The Feds have been going after the AMPs with a vengence. For some strange reason they think the girls working there are sex slaves. IMHO they are trying to make some money to get out of poverty when they return home from their tourist visa. $15K goes a long way in Vietnam or Korea.

Supply diminished+same demand=higher prices

Bush's father used the FBI to shut down about 50-75 places around DC when he was elected. Word was that it offended him. Probably threw about 300-500 single mothers out on the street and into the waiting McD jobs. Higher moral ground?

So much for free will.

A woman owns her own body if she wants an abortion.
A woman does not own her own body if she wants to sell it.

So it would be better if they had abortions than had the kid and tried to support them the best they can. Higher moral ground?

Are poor mothers really better parents?

Call Me Booger
02-14-06, 18:49
Dora is by far one of the best looking at these two places. I would agree with Shadow's description of her. She is very mechanical, and a talker. Which is why I would not repeat with her. She went on this very weird rant, and from what I've read on this board I'm not the first to notice this.

Kara is consistantly good, and is one of the better looking girls just has a little extra junk in the trunk.

Has anyone got any new reviews?

booger

Bill01
02-15-06, 23:54
I went back to Executive. Saw Judy again. You don't hear much about her but she knows how to finish. She has been there awhile. Not young but cute with a great personality and body. Give her a try.

Ragu Guy
02-16-06, 10:08
I used to be a regular of Dora's but like everyone else, got tired of the mechanical nature of her sessions. My favorite session with Dora was probably 5+ years ago before she had her boob job. She was a totally different person, enthusiastic and spontaneous. Wish she would go back to who she was. Can't say I have a favorite now. Maybe Nicole who has always been pleasant, but predictable.

Call Me Booger
02-16-06, 16:07
I've only been to CLV and Exec in the daytime. From what I understand from asking the ladies, Exec has the same crew on all day, but CLV has a night time crew. Has anybody been to either at night? Any talent worth making a special evening trip?

Also, I do have an interesting sidenote for Senior members and regular bevidere posters.

Jimbo33
02-17-06, 09:29
I haven't been to exec in awhile. Does anyone know if Candace
is still there?

Ci-Traveler
02-17-06, 10:17
Been a long time lurker and finally registered.

At Executive you get a service. A massage and good company with a happy ending. It is only rite to tip. If you get a massage at a day spa you tip. If you go to a restaurant you tip. It is expected. These girls can't tell you you must tip or they risk thier jobs. They can't tell you much of how they really feel or they can be fired.

You truly are cheep if you don't tip.

I have been going to that place for years and see various girls. I am thankful for that place and the service provided. I respect the girls and show it. I don't judge these girls for what they do or how they look. WE are the ones going there paying them for "attention" in everyway. They are there to make a living. We are the ones who should be looking in the mirror if we want to judge anyone.

We pick them. They do not pick us. I am sure "from what a few girls have told me" if they could deny half of us they would.

I have no difficulty with TTs philosophy...........go for it.

I disagree that tip is expected by the employer - if so, they shouldn't tell you over the phone - "no tipping is necessary." No day spa or restaraunt would tell a customer that over the phone.

I give 20% tips at restaraunts. Why? I've worked those jobs - and the pay is min. wage plus tips. Not so at the ERS. The 1 hour gives the girl a good percentage of what she earns for the house.

If I want to spend more than .8 or .85 for a HJ, I won't do it. Hell - I'll spend as little as possible to have a great time. I don't intend to see them again. At an AMP - I pay .4 or .6 at the door, and $ for everything. Anything more - forget it. It aint cheap - it's downright expensive! Go anywhere else in the world and you'll see what I mean.

Not complaining here - I see TTs point - but it isn't about compassion - it's about economizing. No tip has never equaled bad service.

ci-traveler

Canny
02-18-06, 13:52
I've only been to CLV and Exec in the daytime. From what I understand from asking the ladies, Exec has the same crew on all day, but CLV has a night time crew. Has anybody been to either at night? Any talent worth making a special evening trip?

Also, I do have an interesting sidenote for Senior members and regular bevidere posters.I believe the Exec is only open to 6pm weekdays and 8pm Fri & Sat. that's' why they only have one crew. The last time I was there I had a good session with a brunet I'd see again, I think her name was Jennifer.

KingDd
02-20-06, 02:08
I think they're open to 8pm during the week. BTW, if you show up at 7:59pm, they'll hate you, and you'll hate yourself for not getting there eariler.

Mannamik
02-20-06, 16:20
Hello All,

I appreciate the recent reports on Belvidere. Anyone know if Sophia is still at CLV? Have not been able to get out there since last August. Hope she hasn't forgotten me.

Thanks,

Mannamik

Chief_Wiggum
02-20-06, 16:29
I haven't been to exec in awhile. Does anyone know if Candace
is still there?
I'll take a stab and say she's gone. I was there this last weekend.

Chief_Wiggum
02-20-06, 16:37
I think they're open to 8pm during the week. BTW, if you show up at 7:59pm, they'll hate you, and you'll hate yourself for not getting there eariler.
I forgot if it's 8 during the week and 9 on weekends, but it's definitely 9 on weekends.

Oh, and I saw Sara. I think someone said not to go and see her, but I didn't realize it until I actually made my pick. Some new faces, but are all old, except for one (I'll get to that last). I'll give a 4 overall.

Sara is skinny, not as skinny as Nicole, but about the same. Good massage, actually has a natural instinct. Reverse massage is awful, too many restrictions (as in, nothing available). Yes, I didn't tip. I'll be glad to NOT choose her next time I go there.

Saw Kara again. Man, how did I forget her? Yes, she's big, about right in line with the rest of them. However, the big rack more than makes up for that. Normally accessible on the reverse unlike others (Sara, Jenny's sister). Kara would be a 9 if she lost like 30 lbs (she's got plenty to spare in the rack). I'll giver her a 7 (maybe an 8) for the breast thingy she does when you're on your stomach. They call this a body slide in Australia. Man, do I miss Australia. She doesn't quite have the technique down yet.

Two new girls. I want to say Jackie. Ugh, how did I forget. She's like a platinum blonde, but old. I said no thanks.

Other girl is Jessica. I ran out of time to see her. She's Sabrina's sister (left a while ago). I was talking to her, and i have no idea why I didn't wait for her. Young, way bigger rack than her sister, and taller. I can only hope that restrictions are normal.

KingDd
02-21-06, 03:17
Jessica - Many restrictions. She's cute, but looks better with clothes on. No tip.

Call Me Booger
02-23-06, 19:03
I took it upon myself to do some scouting in Belvidere today. I went to CLV and had the choice of three Ginger, Pepper, and Sophie. The rest were busy.

I selected Sophie. Sophie has dark hair, short, nice curves with a little extra padding, and about 38 y/o. Sophie offers a light massage that feels good, but if you have some knots in your back she's not your gal. Sophie offers a very good finish, really knows how to drag things out in a very good way. I would repeat.

Door Fee:$95
Tip:$30

Also, I did find out that shift change happens at 6:30, and that most daytime girls do not work nights. So does anyone have anything to report about a night time visit?

Ken Blue Eyes
02-27-06, 15:42
I recently saw Nikki. She is younger, nice chest and large dark nipples, tanned all over. YMMV, but I have a new favorite at Exec. This was as close to a gfe as I've had at this place. By that, I don't mean there were any extras beyond what is usually provided. But it was the kind of massage that I received when I was dating girls I genuinely liked back in college. Fairly soft/light technique, but totally unrushed and accompanied by enjoyable conversation.

A little junk around the trunk, but she is recently back after having another child.

Finish was outstanding. She is not only coachable, but listens well and implements the game plan. Showed a willingness to audible at the last minute when conditions change. Not a clockwatcher.

Pleasant, fun, and very relaxing.

Ken

Xxofe
03-02-06, 19:34
Finally had a chance to visit ERS today. Wow it was cool... This was my second trip to Belvidere, the first one was in search of ERS. On that trip I had no luck, but found CLV. CLV was a bit of a disapointment for me, the lady whose name I forgot was a bit older, late forties, and I had to tip in advance if I wanted to see anything.

So on this trip I was determined to find ERS. What a delight. I have never seen so many pretty girls working in any AMP, or anyplace else for that matter. Now when I was there they were busy, and had remodeling going on, so I had to wait a bit. I was given a choice between three ladies when the time came, I chose Jenny. very pretty blonde, early thirties I would say, and nicely shaped all around. Any one who has been there knows the routine, so I won't add much more then say by the reports it was typical. I had a pleasant message, followed by giving her one, and then fun. No extras were asked for or offered, but the time I had was very relaxing.
so to rate my experience.

Jenny
Looks 8
Body 8 on top, 7 on bottom
Attitude 10
Technique 8+
HR finish 10

I can't wait to go back

Turkey John
03-02-06, 22:28
I have been to the ERS about 10 times. At ERS I always feel like I am rtreated like a King. I've been to CLV twice during night shift. On a few occasions, I have called CLV during the daytime to get information on who they have on staff. Everytime, without exception, the rag that answers the phone at CLV is a major b***h. No attempt to be friendly, helpful or courteous. My simple one or two questions are responded to with a heavy sigh and noticeable annoyance at the fact that I am calling. Everytime this happens I hang up the phone and ask myself, "what did I do to deserve that" ?!? Today I called and I asked for a certain girl and was told she was not working would be back tomorrow and then she hangs up without saying goodbye, thank you, kiss my ass or anything. She just hung up.

I wonder if the ladies who do the real work there understand that this idiot they have on the phones is cutting into their incomes. After today, I don't see myself calling there or stopping in. I am willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut that others feel the same way. No wonder they had to raise their rates. Probably are having difficulty making the rent. It's a downward spiral. Go to CLV, be treated like a felen and pay more. Alternatively, go to ERS be treated liek a king for a nice price.

Anyone else?

Jimbo33
03-03-06, 09:54
I have been to the ERS about 10 times. At ERS I always feel like I am rtreated like a King. I've been to CLV twice during night shift. On a few occasions, I have called CLV during the daytime to get information on who they have on staff. Everytime, without exception, the rag that answers the phone at CLV is a major b***h. No attempt to be friendly, helpful or courteous. My simple one or two questions are responded to with a heavy sigh and noticeable annoyance at the fact that I am calling. Everytime this happens I hang up the phone and ask myself, "what did I do to deserve that" ?!? Today I called and I asked for a certain girl and was told she was not working would be back tomorrow and then she hangs up without saying goodbye, thank you, kiss my ass or anything. She just hung up.

I wonder if the ladies who do the real work there understand that this idiot they have on the phones is cutting into their incomes. After today, I don't see myself calling there or stopping in. I am willing to bet a dollar to a doughnut that others feel the same way. No wonder they had to raise their rates. Probably are having difficulty making the rent. It's a downward spiral. Go to CLV, be treated like a felen and pay more. Alternatively, go to ERS be treated liek a king for a nice price.

Anyone else?

The only problem I have is that they need to open the back door. I was told
that there is a back door but it enters into the girls dressing room. They should find another room to dress in so that people can feel a little more
secure about entering there. Or we could pass through the dressing room
and get a good preview of 'What's to come' Just my humble opinion :)

Thencame Brnsn
03-03-06, 10:02
I have been going to ERS and CLV since late 80's. Also used to go to GT in Rockford (I remember when they were open in afternoon). Overall, ERS is better, because you know what you are getting. CLV can be hit or miss. I have had some of my best sessions at CLV; and I have had nothing happen at CLV as well. One time about six years ago, saw a lady at CLV one Friday night, and it was an outstanding session. Called a few weeks later and asked if she was there and was told by the talked about phone lady that she was. When I got there (drove from Chicago, made a quick stop at OTB in Rockford to play a few exactas) she wasn't. There was a hot blonde, so I was not totally disappointed, but then was told after massage and flip that "things changed last week, we cannot do that." Same thing happened to an friend of mine around same time frame.
I have not had a chance to go to either in last year or so. May take a trip out there around June time frame.
BTW, is GT still open in Rockford?
Good luck and be careful, it's an election year.

Call Me Booger
03-03-06, 13:50
The charming greeter (taker of our hard earned dough) at CLV is a real crunt. She is always grumpy. I've talked to a couple of the girls about this. Basically from what I understand there are two women that typically work the door---the owner and this old crunt. The owner can actually be quite a character once you get her chatting a little bit. But the crunt is always crabby, if it was my business I would fire her ass, because it obviously costs them customers.

A few of the girls tell me that they can't stand her attitude, and they know it effects their business. The crunt always tells them they are wearing the wrong type of clothes and that they won't make any money.

Peter-I believe GT is still open but only at night. I've been there one time a long time ago, and the providers were just way to old for me.

Jimbo-I agree, I would like Exec a lot more if we had access to the back door. I promise I would avert my eyes in the dressing room if everybody else will.

Thencame Brnsn
03-03-06, 21:19
..they were way too old, most of them are the same ones I used to see back then! However, if the lady that used to have long brown hair and a sexy voice was still there (wish I could remember her name) I would still go. She gave a good session, was entertaining, and actually made it fun. If you could have a GFE in a Rock/Bel club, she was the closest thing.

Of course, I was late 20's back then and she was late 30's, maybe pushing 40, so I was into that hotness thing.

Good luck back "home."

Stuck in Norfolk (for about one more year) unfortunately,

Pete

Xxofe
03-04-06, 17:10
After my recent trip to ERS in which I had a great time with Jenny I was so intrigued I decided to go back. I would have liked to have seen Jenny again, but since this was a spur of the moment trip I thought I would take pot luck so to speak.

Arriving shortly after noon I found out Jenny was indeed busy, and would be so for a while. So I was given a choice. My life experience has always been that the young ones may be good to look at, but their lack of experience, coupled with a young person attitude often means bad service. No exception this time.

Of the three ladies that were available two were probably in their mid thirties, one was, well not fat, but padded. Then there was Sara, young, no older then mid twenties, probably closer to 20. She was VERY good looking, and upon seeing her mister down below took over even though the thinking mind was saying she would be a disapointment. My mind was right.

The message was at best so-so. After a bit she asked me to roll over and she gave a half hearted attempt at an exciting leg rub. Then she asked me if I missed anything, told me some things were illegal. I touched her and she said OK. Then the not so fun began. Putting on way to little lube she began to rub me, I reached to play with her very pretty breasts and she pulled away telling me no touching. She then performed a VERY mechanical HJ, standing as far from me as humanly possible and still being able to touch me with one hand. I sat up finally and she asked why. I told her it was if I couldn't touch I would at least need to look or it wouldn't happen. Then at the very begining of it happening she stopped, leaving at least half the load in the chamber. But she was in no way interested in anything but getting out, telling me she would shower quickly so I could be on my way. Now I have always been nothing but polite and complimentory when ever I have been any place, but I have little good to say this time about this lady. I can't wait to go back to ERS again, but will never see her again, I'd rather be with my ex...

My rating.

looks 8-9
Attitude 2
Message 2
Finish -1 Can you say blue balls.

In conclusion if you go stay away from her. Any one else experience her fine service care to coment? and who else do you recommend at ERS?

Ken Blue Eyes
03-06-06, 10:41
In conclusion if you go stay away from her. Any one else experience her fine service care to coment? and who else do you recommend at ERS?

I suggest that you use the search tool, and you will find several negative reports on Sara. Search by "post" rather than by "thread." There are more good providers than bad ones at ERS, and reading the archives provides a great tool to reduce the negative experiences.

Ken

Xxofe
03-06-06, 12:57
I suggest that you use the search tool, and you will find several negative reports on Sara. Search by "post" rather than by "thread." There are more good providers than bad ones at ERS, and reading the archives provides a great tool to reduce the negative experiences.

KenThanks. Seeings as I said it was a spur of the moment trip I didn't have a chance to do any research, not that I would have remembered anyway. But now I know, and I thought to pass it along to everybody else.

Call Me Booger
03-13-06, 11:52
Hey XXOFE, thanks for posting about Sara. I've officially put her on my "Do Not Bother" list, after reading your post and from out senior members comments. I can't stand girls like this. I don't care how hot you are, if you can't do your job or don't like it---just quit. Hopefully, if we get enough people avoiding her, she will try to improve her technique. I doubt it, but I can always hope.

I had a good session with Amy at CLV. This was my second session with her. She is mid to late thities dishwater blonde hair. Nice body, curvey on the bottom, small to average on top. She kind of reminds me of Jenny at Exec, but not as pretty.

After 2 visits with Amy, I am a definite repeat customer with her. Amy gives a nice massage. Actually seems like she puts some thought into what she's doing. She can be chatty. We talked about her likes and dislikes about her job. And her Number 1 complaint: dirty asses! I burst out laughing, thinking about one of our other members report about how the Exec girls can't stand when guys don't clean properly. Anyways, her finishing technique was great.

There were 3 other girls working, Ashley, Monique, and another gal (sorry can't remember her name). I've reported on Ashley before. Has anyone been with Monique before? If so, please PM me about it.

Thanks and good mongering,

Boog

HJ Guy
03-14-06, 11:12
First time poster, long time lurker, thought I should add some content...

First time at Exec was about 2 years ago, I'm not local and only get to the area a couple times a year....walked in and what turned out to be Kara was sitting at the desk, asked her for the line up and ended up picking her, hadn't heard anything about her on the board but she was definitely the cutest. Like a few have mentioned, she looks better with her clothes on. Quite a bit of junk around the trunk.

Took my shower and came back to the room, Kara came in and I removed her suit, big juggs if you're into that kind of thing, sometimes I am, sometimes not. Proceeded to her massaging my back, then I gave her a quick massage, I'm never sure how to handle that and feel kind a funny doing it.

Back on the table and she asked if she missed anything, oiled up little hj guy, she started out too fast and I had to ask her to take her time, she had a very sultry look on her face during the fun part which was nice.

Anyway, tipped her the change from $1. Pretty nice conversation, not overly chatty, would repeat.

Looks - 8 w/ clothes, 6-7 without
Massage - 7, I'm not picky though
Finish - 8
Attitude - 8

More later

HJ Guy
03-14-06, 14:25
Made it back to the Exec about 5 months later. Asked to see the line up and didn't really recognize any of the names except Dora. I knew I had read mixed reviews about her but she looked good so figured what the hey.

Back in the room, decided to ask about the hot tub, Dora didn't seem too keen on it but agreed. Took my shower, she wrapped the towel around me and off we went, removed her suit and in we went, felt nice but was obvious she really didn't want to be there. I must've touched myself cause she warned me that that wasn't ok to do as they don't like foreign substances in the hot tub, I can see what they're saying I guess. After a few uninspiring minutes went back to the room.

Dora started the massage, did an ok job I guess, nothing stands out. My turn to massage her, before I started, she told me the rules about not touching myself and then her, and not touching her cooter..she's very...uh, careful I guess you could say. Dora has fairly large fakes, felt pretty nice though. Nice bottom.

Back on the table on my back, she joined me and oiled us both up, nice russian/hj combo...not bad. She doesn't make any real effort to hide the fact that she really isn't into it. Cleaned up, we both showered and done.

Overall, not a bad visit, although nothing special, probably wouldn't repeat but I like variety anyway. Can't remember if I tipped or not, probably did, even though it was lackluster visit.

Looks 7
Massage 6
Finish 8
Attitude 6

Part 3 later

BigTen
03-14-06, 22:39
Does anyone know what happened to Tina from ERS? She had an add on Tommygirl, as "Joy", but now it's gone. I tried to call her a couple of times, but couldn't connect.

Xxofe
03-15-06, 00:32
My third trip to Executive. Having experienced the good and the bad I was hoping for more good. If it had been possible I would have spent my time with Jenny again, but fortunatly for me she wasn't available. But like usual Executive had 6 ladies available at that moment ranging from down right beautiful to barely passable. For some reason Brook stood out, I chose her and off we went. First a shower then we went to the Jacuzzi, this was my first time in the Jacuzzi, and Brook made it memorable. I removed her bikini to reveal the most perfect 22 yr old body I ever had the privaledge of seeing, she later said she had a boob reduction, and you could see the tell tale scars barely visable on the underside of her breasts. even still she had a great set. we cuddled in the jacuzzi for a few minutes while we groped and talked, then back to the room. the massage was the best, and after a while we switched and I got to play some more with that great body. finally it was my turn, she gave me the best HJ I ever had, bar none, her technique was great. after the explosion the session didn't end right away, but included some more cuddling and mutual groping. I tipped $30, not required, but after that experience I felt it a appropriate. I can't wait to go back and see her specifically. Brook makes my list as the best MP provider I have ever seen. Gentlemen if you want beauty and skill she's your girl.

my rating
Looks clothes on 9
looks clothes off 9+
attitude 10
service 9+
Massage 8
finish 9+

Quick Nick
03-15-06, 01:18
I actually spoke to her a couple of months ago by calling the number on Tommydream, but she said she didn't have a place for clients yet and to call her back in a couple of weeks. I didn't write the number down because it never occurred to me that she might quit running the ad. Anyway I asked her about multiple pops and she indicated that would be no problem. If I see her pic anywhere else, I'll post.

Turkey John
03-15-06, 18:38
Had my first session with Ginger today. Some of the guys on the site know my preference for 'mature' women, so I received some input that she would fit my desires.

She is a bit more mature than I anticipated. Probably 58 - 62 age range. Right off the bat really pusing for a big tip. What happened to tipping after service? So, I was a bit turned off right away. I have never been pressured for a tip before service anywhere else. Only at CLV. I know they don't like NOT getting tipped, but if they would provide a good session and see what happens, they may actually do a bit better from grateful customers.

G. provided some nice verbal stimuli that made for an erotic experience. for someone her age I was surprised and impressed by her energy. All in all a nice time.

Bulls143
03-15-06, 21:43
Had a session with Kara. Nice attitude, nice rack and an ok massage. Very sexy talk and very sexy attitude with Kara. Sucked on those cans and a lil play from behind. Exploded on those twin peaks. She isnt the best looking gal there but she makes it up in her sexy attitude and sexy facial expressions . Will repeat in the future but will hit Chantilly first. Out

Love It
03-16-06, 00:37
Tried Brooke a few times. Nice girl. Excellent professional attitude. Does provide a GF experience. Good massage and finish.
Would repeat.

Jimbo33
03-16-06, 09:49
Does Brooke from Exec work days or nights?

HJ Guy
03-16-06, 11:28
Does Brooke from Exec work days or nights?Wasn't it determined that they only have one shift?

Would love to hear a physical description of Brooke, making the trip in a couple weeks and she sounds very appealing.

Call Me Booger
03-16-06, 11:36
I had my third session with Amy at CLV. I have to say each session keeps getting better, nothing more outside the Belv rules, but better none the less.

If you see Amy, I would suggest letting her take the lead on the session.

As a side sad note Nancy at CLV got fired. I don't know why, maybe one of you lucky mongers got her in trouble. Nancy was the thirty-something with an enhanced rack.

Nice to see some activity on this board. Might have to make a trip to Exec to see Brooke. If someone knows her days, please post.

mr nice guy
03-16-06, 12:11
It has been some time since I have been to Executive. I use to be a regular for many years. I know Gloria left on bad terms with Executive. I would love to get in touch with either of these fine ladies. I was told that Gloria was seeing select customers ( I am sure I would be in this group). Niki would also love to see me if she is still in this line of work. If anyone can contact me, or have them contact me I would be forever greatfull. Nancy who was there then was also a sweet heart. Thanks for any help

HJ Guy
03-16-06, 12:54
6 months later, I was scheduled to be in the area so made plans for a visit. I'd been reading the board much more extensively by this time, so I decided to call ahead and get a rundown of the lineup. Really wanted to try Nicole(still do actually) but she had a session lined up when I was going to be there and my schedule wasn't flexible. Decided to go with Michelle.

Showed up and Michelle came out to get me. Was already in her robe if I remember correctly. This was a mid afternoon Sunday and it was busy so we got to head upstairs for my first time. Michelle was very chatty from the get go. Wanted to know how I found out about the place, how I knew about Nicole, had I ever seen her before, etc. She asked if I read about Exec on the net and not knowing how she would react, I said no. Looking back it probably wouldn't have mattered if I told the truth.

While she readied the table, I got undressed and decided I was going to ask for 2 pops for the first time, can't remember what terminology I used but felt funny saying pops, she knew what I was talking about obviously. Michelle has a great attitude, she took the edge off and made me feel very comfortable. As I was sitting on the table, she walked over and I removed her suit, wow she has some giant juggs...you could tell at the time she had lost a lot of weight recently. Anyway, got the first one out of the way with her standing in front of me while I sat on the table.

She cleaned me up and we proceeded to the massage, she did a pretty good job iirc. She asked if I wanted to massage her, I did but still feel wierd doing it, it's a good chance to admire the girls body, but as others have said that isn't why you choose Michelle.

Back on the table and the fun starts, she stood beside me and started a long, slow hj, while I played touchy feely. She got up on the table with me and used those juggs, very nice, chin trick came next and as just as others desribe, had to check to make sure she wasn't going down...I finished not long after.

Took our showers and I didn't have any change for a tip, (felt really bad about that, as it was my best trip yet...I'll definitely make it up to her in the future), Michelle didn't seem upset by it though...made our way downstairs, Nicole was going into a session and Michelle pointed her out to me, I appreciated that. Good trip. Would repeat.

Looks 7 with clothes, 6 without
Massage 8
Finish 10
Attitude 10

hope I'm not getting too detailed, can't believe I remember this much, it's fun reliving though, makes me anticipate my trip in a couple weeks that much more.

HJ Guy
03-16-06, 18:03
a few more months go by(we're up to July '05 by now) and I'm itchin to get back to the Exec, although I'm not scheduled to be in the area anytime soon. Figure what the hell I'll make the drive on a Sunday afternoon I had free. When I get about 3/4 of the way there place a call to get the line up, although I had my mind made up on Katie based on some recent(at the time) good reports. Lucky for me she was on and available.

Arrive in Belvidere after a too long drive, Katie comes out to get me. She looked good, kind of short, cute blond, mid 30s I would say(I'm not real good with that though). Get back to the room, shower and I negotiate 2 pops, she made a comment about tips being appreciated, that's reasonable but not something I really want to talk about before anything has happened(or after for that matter). We both get into our b-day suits and she starts a nice hj standing in front of me while I'm sitting on the table. Nice body and good sized soft boobies. Didn't take long for the desired result to occur.

She started the massage portion and then I massaged her momentarily, since this was an impromtou trip, I was kind of in a hurry so I cut that part short. Seemed like some exploring might be available.

Back on the table and she joins me, russian ensues, and a great, great hj, I just kind of laid back and let her due her thing, must've closed my eyes cause next thing I knew this intense wave of pleasure comes over me and we were done. I'm not even sure what she did but it was great. I looked up at her and she had kind of this sly smirk on her face. I remember someone on the board making mention of a special trick or what not that she did...hmmm? She took her shower, I took mine and that was that. Left her the change from $.1.

I remember it was a hellacious ride home that kind of put a damper on the whole thing but it was an enjoyable session none the less. Still wondering what her trick was, anybody remember "the move" from Seinfeld?

Looks 7
Massage 6
Finish 10
Attitude 8

Part 5 to come

Xxofe
03-17-06, 00:42
Would love to hear a physical description of Brooke, making the trip in a couple weeks and she sounds very appealing.Of course this is just my opinion.

Brooke is about 5'5" or so, she says she is 22 and looks it. Nice blonde hair shoulder length, and ever so slightly tanned skin, with visable bot not overwhelming tan lines. she is not skinny, nor is she over weight. To give a comparison she is lighter in build then Kate Winslet was in Titanic, say somewhere between Kirsten Dunst and Drew Barrymoore. I would guess she weighs about 120-125 lbs. She has a pierced tongue (boy would I like to take that for a spin), and belly button. As we continue down we find a flat tummy, and a nice round ass perfect for grabbing. Her skin is incredibly smooth.

Her breasts, about a large C or small D have smal small scars from when she had her breast reduction, they don't pass the pencil test, but look beautiful, and feel even better.

Over all I think she has the modern girl next door look. She says she has been living in Orlando going to school as a communications major, having moved back here because of money and family. Her best friend got her the job here. She was really nervous at first, but she likes it a lot now, and she has been studying massage technique on the side. She hasn't found any books on improving her HJ skills, and so will take suggestion, although I don't think she needs much in the way of lessons.

I hope this helps

edited to add: Brooke works Sunday-Tuesday, and Thursdays

HJ Guy
03-17-06, 06:59
Had a session with Kara. Nice attitude, nice rack and an ok massage. Very sexy talk and very sexy attitude with Kara. Sucked on those cans and a lil play from behind. Exploded on those twin peaks. She isnt the best looking gal there but she makes it up in her sexy attitude and sexy facial expressions . Will repeat in the future but will hit Chantilly first. OutI totally agree, she had a very sultry look about her, that really made for a hot finish...very nice girl too. Somebody mentioned if she lost 30, she'd be a 9, sounds about right to me. Definite potential with Kara.

Xxofe
03-19-06, 01:25
Just a quick note, I went up to ERS today, had a few minutes to myself, and wanted to relaxe. Anyway I spent some time with Jenny, and as we talked she asked who else I have been with. I mentioned Sarah. this may or may not be common knowledge but Jenny and Sarah are sisters. Jenny said she is aware of Sarah's lack of people skills, and has tried to encourage her to be more open to clients, but to no avail. Jenny hopes that Sarah will either learn how to please or move on.

Quick Nick
03-21-06, 01:00
I had some time to kill a few days ago and made the trip to Exec. There were only two girls available. I chose Katy, a blonde. She had a good personality and the session went well like all Exec. sessions. Our personalities seemed to click and that added to the enjoyment. I would repeat. Again, nothing more than usual great Exec service.

-qn

Spramanator
03-22-06, 12:16
Went out to the Exec last sun and met up with Michelle. After reading these posts I had an idea of who I wanted to try out. All new girls since the last time I was there. There were 7 girls available and of the 5 names that I had written down from here, Michelle was the only one on my list. I do not remember any of the names as I was trying not to forget the ones that I came for. There was one or two girls that looked good dressed so maybe I will check them out the next time I go to Bel. Anyway Michelle was just like reported here. Chin trick and everything. Even did my feet russian, which was kind of weird since I am not a foot person. No reverse massage but plenty of touching,within the rules of course. Seemed like she might have allowed more but I did not want to press it. Overall a pretty good experience. Almost as good as Peggy. The only thing is that I like my girls a little less meaty and less stretch marked. But if you close your eyes you will be in heaven.

Sprammy

Think with head one so head two can have some fun.

Xxofe
03-22-06, 13:23
Ok I have a question.

I've done the research, looking back over the last two years, but I cannot find an adaquate description of Michelle's "chin trick"

Can anyone tell me exactly what this is? I know it involves the chin and shoulder, but exactly how does she do this?

Thanks

Turkey John
03-22-06, 15:34
I found out today Shauna is no longer at the ERS. Anyone know what's up with her? Setting up on her own ?

TJ

HJ Guy
03-24-06, 16:00
Ok I have a question.

I've done the research, looking back over the last two years, but I cannot find an adaquate description of Michelle's "chin trick"

Can anyone tell me exactly what this is? I know it involves the chin and shoulder, but exactly how does she do this?

ThanksUses her chin and shoulder/neck to simulate a BJ. I've heard.

Doctor WU
03-28-06, 00:41
Saw Nicole at ERC about 2 weeks ago. She is a very nice gal, great body, B cups, and gives a nice massage. Standard back massage, reverse, flip and finish. She is pleasant to talk with and knows when to stop the chit chat. A reliable, if predictable, experience. Didn't see anyone else I was willing to chance an hour with that day so Nicole was a good choice.

xxofe - the "chin trick" by Michelle is as described by HJ Guy. Definitely worth a try when you get the chance.

Are you with me?

Doctor Wu

midwestrt
03-28-06, 16:20
Been traveling a lot over the past year or so and have been making ERS a regular stop on my way through Belvidere. Usually I come through around 4-7 pm. This coming weekend I am coming through but won't hit the area until much later, more like 10-midnight. Any places in the area where I can find something like ERS at that hour?

Goat Trotter
03-30-06, 20:51
ERS closes too early... being from Chicago the only choice you have is over a weekend.

I'd seen Kacey/Kara (don't remember the name) in the past. Was decent.

Also saw Tina who looks like she's gone independent now but is on "vacation". Tina would give you a hot time no doubt. Standard stuff but had a hard bod and knew how to work it.

Xxofe
03-31-06, 10:49
Has anyone ever asked for a trio at ERS before? Would they do it? I'm not asking the girls to be into each other, but the idea of two of those lovies working me over sounds fantastic.

Spramanator
03-31-06, 18:09
Has anyone ever asked for a trio at ERS before? Would they do it? I'm not asking the girls to be into each other, but the idea of two of those lovies working me over sounds fantastic.

I think I remember reading about that in one of the older posts. Do a search through last years messages.



Sprammy

Hammer7
04-01-06, 20:10
Sorry for the delay, but I decided to swing by ERS on my way home from RFD Wednesday afternoon. I had my list of names that I had gathered from the board and personal experience. There were 5 girls available and Nicole was the only name that I recognized that I wanted to try.

The other girls were (please excuse the poor descriptions. I was coming back from Vegas and being up 30 hours or so...):

Dora - met before and while decent the talk was a bit distracting.

Barb - didn't recognize - dark hair, 30's I'd guess.

Samantha - didn't recognize - dark hair, 30's.

Vicki - sounded familiar but couldn't be sure, little extra meat on the bones, but I'm fine with that personally

I don't remember who was behind the desk, but she wasn't available, though looked like she'd be a good choice herself

Nicole has a great body, and was very nice to talk to. This is the first time I ever actually made it to the hot tub. When she asked I told her it was up to her since she'd probably be in there many times during the day.

In retrospect, that might have been a bad idea based on the lack of sleep, but it was nice and relaxing all the same.

Back to the room and the massage was actually very good. I wasn't expecting much in the way of the basic massage, but out of the ones I've had there in the past I would pick Nicole simply for that in the future.

She had to put forth some extra effort on the finish, but was very accomodating.

I would definitely see her again without hesitation, though I will still be willing to check out some of the others a well.

chi1dude
04-05-06, 21:38
Went to ERS for the first time. Kicking myself for not checking the forum first for the recommended list of names. Oh well.

Ended up choosing Samantha, or "Sam". Mid 30's, nice body, short dark hair, attractive. Went into the room, took a shower, and then off to the hot tub. Very comfortable with her - She mentioned that she actually worked at ERS over 10 years ago, and just got back into it. Bright, funny, casual, talktative but not too too much. Had a lot of tattoos (something I'm not too fond of), but some of the tattoos were to actually cover up some physical issues she's had in the past, so they are very understandable.

Great massage - Allowed me to massage her, which was different, but fun. On the flip, asked the right questions, got down to a nice, long hj. She had just had tattoo work done on her tits, so she didn't use them but mentioned they would be used later. Nice finish and gave her a .2 tip.

Heard a lot about this place, and from my first experience, really worth the stop...I'll be going back again.

CadillacJack
04-06-06, 12:03
Ended up choosing Samantha, or "Sam". Mid 30's, nice body, short dark hair, attractive. Aparently I visited Sam just after you. Overall satisfying engagement. I tipped equal to house fee.

Bulls143
04-13-06, 00:13
Had a session w/ Vicki about 2 weeks ago. Great attitude as usual ( I saw her bout 8 months ago ) Boob sucking, lil bit of kitty playing and a hot release between her lubed up twin peaks. Good time had.

Tornacl
04-13-06, 09:10
I have done the "Trio" a few times. When one of their cards gets filled up that's how I spend it. It's a 4 handed, among other 4 things;), massage. One time the ladies were very creative but YMMV. Neither works there any more so no need to detail.

If you want to go ahead. Pick 2 and away you go. Or pick one you like and ask her to pick who she would like to work with.

Chief_Wiggum
04-13-06, 17:00
Aparently I visited Sam just after you. Overall satisfying engagement. I tipped equal to house fee.
You tipped $.85? I'll let the others start the admonishment while I shake my head in disbelief...

Roy
04-13-06, 18:19
Yes! I agree.

Please don't tip that much.

$20.00 to $40.00 if it is a really good session.

Recently had a session with Judy. Judy has been there for years and does a nice job. Great finish. Nothing outside the rules.

CadillacJack
04-16-06, 11:26
Yes! I agree.

Please don't tip that much.

$20.00 to $40.00 if it is a really good session.

Recently had a session with Judy. Judy has been there for years and does a nice job. Great finish. Nothing outside the rules.O.K. Lesson learned. I was going by a rule I was taught at m.p. in Ohio. I understand the economics of it all. In the end this is what's great about this board. Sharing information.

Thanks

Turkey John
04-17-06, 17:16
O.K. Lesson learned. I was going by a rule I was taught at m.p. in Ohio. I understand the economics of it all. In the end this is what's great about this board. Sharing information.

Thanks

Don't believe everything those girls tell you !!

KingDd
04-17-06, 20:50
O.K. Lesson learned. I was going by a rule I was taught at m.p. in Ohio. I understand the economics of it all. In the end this is what's great about this board. Sharing information.

Jack, that's probably normal for most places in the US; and it's normal for Madison. But the Executive and the Rockford LS (what's left of them) are the exception. It's OK. Live and Learn.

Taco Malo
04-17-06, 22:05
Uses her chin and shoulder/neck to simulate a BJ. I've heard.



...and I've experienced. It's awesome. I guess it would be a "chin job"!

Turkey John
04-20-06, 15:49
I needed some relaxation today and looked through old threads to come up with Kara. In the mood for something new, I made an appointment and headed south. I was very pleased with her appearance. Nice figure. Her best feature being lovely breasts. Kara is very accomodating and pleasant. We started with the reverse, which is different but I enjoyed going right from my back to my front without interruption. Finish was exciting. She has a gifted touch and nice sexy talk. Will repeat.

TJ

Badger1996
04-25-06, 15:47
I went to Executive for my first time ever over a week ago and chose Michelle. She was on my list of a few ladies that I wanted to see.

In my opinion, Michelle is very good looking and has a great personality. We really clicked from the beginning. She made me feel comfortable right away when we were in the jacuzzi room.

Her massage skills are very good and she really uses her body well during the massage too!!! As others have mentioned, she has some really good, unique techniques. The reverse massage was very enjoyable. I wanted to give her a good massage, but also explore too.

Got back up on the table and she provided a nice, long sensual release. She never rushed and I ended up being there longer than an hour. Very nice person and I highly recommend her!!!

Love It
04-30-06, 16:51
Went to the ERS. Was in the mood for a good massage and so picked Kara. She is large but provides an excellent massage. While on you back she will massage you with her boobs. Good finish with a good assist from her boobs.
Looking for providers with trim bodies. Any input appreciated. Aware of nicole, dora, jenny, brooke.

Slammer 82
05-01-06, 02:43
I went to ERS a short time ago. I called ahead to get the lineup but when I arrived most of the girls I wanted to see were busy and only about 4 came out. I chose Trisha (I've never seen or read anything about her before). She said she has been there about 8 months. For those of you who do not like rail thin girls she definitely is not for you. She's very thin with almost nothing on top. It wasn't a problem for me though because I'm sort of partial to the petite types. Pretty typical ERS routine. She gave a pretty good massage followed by a reverse massage that seemed to last forever. She's definetly not a clock watcher because I was in there for about an hour and twenty mins. She gave the standard finish and sent me to the shower. All in all it wasn't a bad visit but she just didn't seem into it. (just laid there with little to no conversation). She did seem nice enough when she did speak and she did allow my hands to roam freely on the reverse so I cant really give her a bad report. However, I don't think I would see her again.

Slammer

Slick Dick
05-01-06, 23:31
Went to ERS the other day and chose Sabrina. Not a bad body, probably around 30, dark hair. I wouldn't recommend her, however. Too mechanical, and not much conversation or enthusiasm. Didn't offer any kind of a personal "specialty" to her massage, either.

Throat Fucker
05-02-06, 12:27
Long time hobbiest, first time poster here. Visited ERS recently and had Andra (sp? - she pronounced it like Sandra without the "S"). Pretty face, nice attitude and a nice round butt. Her boobs are on the small side, and dissappointingly, a bit saggy. I told her I wanted to get off twice, for which she obliged. Not the prettiest one I've seen there, but if nothing looks outstanding in the line-up, I wouldn't hesitate to pick her again.

Ragu Guy
05-05-06, 09:24
Had a second session with Brooke the other day. Very cute, lots of fun, great body. Brooke doesn't allow a whole lot on the reverse, and was even a little more restrictive on this visit. Great attitude and gives a terrific massage.

I noticed a tall, thin, short haired blonde (not Nicole) in the hall. Anyone know who she is?

Xxofe
05-05-06, 12:16
Ragu guy:

Funny you should say that. I just had a second session with Nicole, and it was much the same. A LOT more restrictive then last time, the reverse was puntual and just about no touch. Then during the big finish she turned so that all I could see was her back side, and no touching during that time. She also spend some time going on about the only thing she likes about the job is the money. Which is fine with me, but at least act like you are into it. She confessed that she used to work in a rip off place in Chicago, and there were advantages there, like good money and not having to actually perform. Kinda changed my attitude from a must see to a try and avoid. now I'm worried about going back to see Brooke. Looks like Jenny is still safe though.

Ynormanb
05-05-06, 20:00
Kara - Visited based on posts in this forum and had a great session, Kara has a pleasant personality and is able to carry on an interesting conversation. She is genuinely interested in making the customer happy. I was pleasantly surprised when Kara noticed my rising interest early in the session and initiated '2 pops'. I found her massage to be slow and erotic. Kara was very cooperative on the reverse within the usual limits. The only downside for me is that she does not have my preferred body type.

Samantha - Stopped during a business trip and found that none of my favorites were available. Samantha was the best looking available, in my eyes.

In terms of appearance, I enjoyed her legs and rear. Unfortunately she had strange implants that were a distraction - natural feeling breasts with some sort of hard backing or support.

I found her to be mediocre in terms of attitude and technique. Samantha was cooperative with respect to sexy posing and the reverse massage. However she treated the session as 'a job to get done', did not show much interest in customer satisfaction, and had a mechanical technique.

My 2 all time best sessions were with Kara and Andra. In each case I requested them in advance Vs picking from the lineup. I wonder if this is just a coincidence or do the ladys feel complimented by the advance appointment and provide better service?

jimisms
05-09-06, 16:13
I saw Brooke a few weeks ago and she is very pretty, nice D breasts. She is not as tight as Nicole, but a nice body. She is friendly and make you comfortable right away. The massage was far above what I usually get at ERS as well as the finish. She allows some nice play, even put on some oil on herself so I could enjoy. But the reverse was a little restrictive, not what I experienced in the past. Are the rules changing? I hope not, otherwise I might have to find something a little closer.

Love It
05-23-06, 03:01
It seems that the girls were warned about what they are allowed to do..this seems to have spoofed them.(per some girls). Appropriate contact is ok but poor service is a problem.
My last visit with Nicole (she did not tell me the above though) bore this out..she was less engaged.
This was also true with 2 other girls..too bad.
love it

Bob P 1976
05-24-06, 20:33
Has anyone ever gotten crabs or anything from these massage parlors?

Mac Man
05-25-06, 07:58
Had a great session with Kara at ERS yesterday. Extremely friendly, accomodating and attentive to all the right places. Not an exceptionally firm massage, but very good none-the-less.....all within ERS rules. Reverse was
very good, and not the most restrictive I've experienced there by far. On the flip, exceptional teasing release.

While some others have commented on her slightly larger physical build, this girl more than makes up for any percieved shortcomings in her exceptional attitude. Would definitely repeat.

Play safe,

Mac Man

Tomcat 56
06-02-06, 00:54
Visited ERS today, looks to be at least 4 new girls in the lineup since 2 weeks ago. Would have tried one but already had an appointment with my atf.

Play safe

Xxofe
06-02-06, 21:48
I made a long awaited trip back to ERS yestarday. I had wanted to see my ATF Brooke, but she wasn't working. Anybody know her schedule BTW? Anyway lineup included Nichole, but after last times limited access I stayed away. Also available was Samantha, and a few others I don't remember.

Chose Dora mainly because of the reviews. Facially she is far from my norm, as was her hair, which I thought was kinda weird looking. But I thought what the hey, it can't be all that bad. OK so the tit job wasn't the best, and I'm really not into fakies anyway, but the the bod otherwise was great. Dora gave in OK massage until she climbed on the table and began rubbing her tits on my back. On the reverse she encouraged me to explore a little, only us my finger tips. Then on the flip she gave me all the right attention. Along the way she allowed my fingers to explore any outside area. Dora even turned so I could see her body, and lifted a leg for easier access. That ended in being one of the best releases I have had there, certainly better then the last two times.

Over all I would give the session a 8+ and will be more then willing to see Dora again. Tip was. 30 BTW because I wish to encourage good behavior.

Relentless
06-12-06, 08:47
Recent reports on Nicole have been less than flattering but I saw her anyways. Seems like the session was average but there is a clear difference in attitude and that makes all the difference. It can become mechanical if you know she is timing her stimulation based on the duration of a piece of music and no hands here and there. Obviously good release but limited pleasure.

Jimmy Smits
06-13-06, 17:08
ERS Questions:

It's been about 6 years since I have been through the area. Just wondering what the prices are for single and double release. I usually like to cum twice and am coming a long way (South Carolina) and will want two.

Also - What are their hours these days?

Farwest Burbs
06-14-06, 05:24
ERS's hours are: Mon - Fri 10AM - 8PM

Sat & Sun: 12NOON - 9PM


The gate fee is $85.00.

Tell the girl early that you want multi pops.

They don't upcharge for extra pops, but it would certainly be appropriate to give the girl a bigger tip, since she worked harder.

Have fun


FWB

Jimmy Smits
06-14-06, 06:39
It's much appreciated.

Doctor WU
06-16-06, 01:21
Passing thru town early last week, I decided to make a pit stop at ERS. Nancy was working there, much to my surprise, as I had seen her at CLV last fall.

Anyway, I chose Nancy - mid 30's I'd guess, multiple tats, large "bolt-ons", in good shape and a nice tan.

She remembered seeing me "up the street" and we chatted a bit about the differences between ERS and CLV. She said she's happy to be at ERS as the management is better and she knows some of the gals and generally gets along well with them. Good conversation but not overly chatty. Her tats are a work in progress and she has some interesting body art work. Seems like there's always something new to check out!

Nancy does a great massage. Really works to get the kinks out and takes her time on the shoulders, back and especially the legs. The reverse is great, too. I know she liked the back massage and nice contact on her flip. Trimmed and nicely toned. After the reverse, I'm back on the table and she does an excellent job, taking her time, making sure everything is well oiled and taken care of. The girls are in play and were a welcome addition to the standard fare.

While Nancy might not be the youngest or the cutest at ERS, I can definitely recommend her. YMMV but I will see her again.

Are you with me?

Doctor Wu

Chicago Bob
06-17-06, 12:49
Stopped by ERS yesterday and had the choice between Barb, Trisha and Dora and I chose Trisha. Dora sat down on the couch like she was available, I initially chose her, but then she said she had an appointment coming up. (Why come and sit down if you know that you have an appointment coming up?) Barb looked like she had put on a few extra pounds since I had been to ERS last, and although Trisha looked a little slim on top, I decided to go with her. I don't regret my decision.

The rooms downstairs were all full, so we took a trip upstairs. After the shower, I think I must have waited a good 10 minutes for her to come back in the room (wasn't too thrilled about that). Once she came back, things were great. Her chest was definitely the smallest I had ever seen at ERS, but the rest of her body was great. Very smooth skin, nice legs. As was posted before, if you like more meat on your women, you might want to choose someone else.

The massage was good, but she initially wanted to quickly move on to the reverse. I asked if she could pay more attention to an area she had quickly glossed over, and she happily obliged. After that, we were on to a lengthy reverse, and then I was back up to bat. No complaints on the finish and I left a very satisfied customer. Overall, I think I was in and out in about 50 minutes.

Overall session: 8 (in comparison to other ERS experiences)
Trisha's rating: 8 (fake boobs would be great, but her attitude was very good)
Would I repeat? Yes.

Chicago Bob
06-17-06, 12:50
Also, when I was there yesterday, Trisha had told me that there was a new girl that had been booked all day. Can someone who has had a session with this girl please post a review?

Thanks!

Hankster
06-20-06, 14:11
Will be passing through Belvidere tomorrow. I have searched for the location of both ERS and CRV and found nothing on this forum. Can someone help me find them?

Thanks in advance,

Hankster

Farwest Burbs
06-20-06, 15:05
Will be passing through Belvidere tomorrow. I have searched for the location of both ERS and CRV and found nothing on this forum. Can someone help me find them?

Thanks in advance,

Hankster

You can simply use 61008-3518 as the destination zip code in MapQuest to find ERS.

ERS's actual address is 134 N. State St.

CLV is just a couple of blocks from ERS, but I've never been there and don't know their address except that CLV is also on State St.

Have Fun!

FWB

Member #5329
06-21-06, 21:00
Anybody have anything to report on Ashley at the Exec. Heard she is well endowed, but not sure if she is enhanced or has the "real things". Any comments would be welcome.

Boob Lover

Midwest10
06-27-06, 16:31
Anybody have anything to report on Ashley at the Exec. Heard she is well endowed, but not sure if she is enhanced or has the "real things". Any comments would be welcome.

Boob LoverAshley is the real thing! ;)

Tuna Lover
06-27-06, 23:18
Saw Ashley this past weekend. She is very well endowed young and good looking. She may not be the one for everyone though. Her massage was not very good and she tensed up anytime I got near her kitty. These may all be symptoms of her being new she said she has only been there about a month. One very good thing about her is that she is not shy with naughty talk. For those of you who are fans of russian I do not know if that is on the menu. Would see her again hopefully after a little while longer she will be more comfortable and her massage skills will improve.

Midwest10
06-30-06, 12:44
What a bod on this young girl. Isn't worth a dam at massaging but who cares.

Personal attention was incredible with 2 big scores!

Love It
07-02-06, 15:45
Tried Kara at the Exec.
Very friendly and willing to please. Good massage and conversation. Not my preferred body type though.

Robert387
07-03-06, 08:43
Sorry to report that Brooke -- a favorite of many -- no longer works at the ERS. Don't know why she left, but was simply told that "She no longer works here."

Midwest10
07-03-06, 19:07
Went back again today for some more. She is getting better at Massages and she is still brilliant in the personal attention business. 4 Stars. PM me for more details.

Cowboy 53
07-05-06, 00:21
Its been a while, but has anyoneseen or heard from nicki. She has beengone for over a year, but I miss those big titties of hers.

Ragu Guy
07-05-06, 13:46
I recently saw Ashley based on a couple of good reviews in this forum. Ashley was all everyone said - cute, very busty natural DDs, nice figure and can reasonably hold up her end of the conversation. BUT, like most of my recent experiences there, Ashley will need to improve before I return to see her.

On the reverse while laying on her stomach, she noticeably flinched and tightened up whenever I tried to put my hand between her legs. After just a few minutes, she asked if I wanted her to flip, and she did. She allows no kissing or sucking on her nipples – a major turnoff for me. She did spread her legs a bit when I asked, but warned I could only touch on the outside and then only let me rub her for about five seconds before she wanted me back on the table. Russian is NOT on the menu. She did not even know what it was and was pretty repulsed when I told her. Ashley has all the physical qualifications but a major disappointment otherwise.

She mentioned another new girl named Nancy that she said I might want to try. Anyone have any info on Nancy?

Midwest10
07-05-06, 15:36
Went back again today for some more. She is getting better at Massages and she is still brilliant in the personal attention business. 4 Stars. PM me for more details.Ashley is the new girl not Angela - Sorry for the confussion

Service Man
07-07-06, 21:26
I saw Ashley this week at ERS also. I agree with some of the other posters. She is very nice looking, and gets into the dirty talk. But, she was too business like, and the session seemed a little rushed; something I rarely feel at ERS. I think she could be top notch if she tries a bit harder, and improves her customer service skills. There were some other very attractive ladies in the line up that day as well. I will be sure to get back there and try some of the others soon. Thanks to all the posters for the Info.

SM

Turkey John
07-09-06, 13:23
FYI,

Michelle is soon to be leaving ERS


TJ

Midwest10
07-09-06, 14:28
I know I've posted some extemely favorable reviews about her. But she scared the sh-t out of me the last time.

We were half way through the session - I just finished the reverse massage and said "Lets have some fun now". She said real loud "fun - what kind of fun - I don't understand what you are asking can you be more specific." I told her you know I been here before with you and she just continued the charade. It smelled like I was getting set up.

I had a similar situation with her the first time I had her , but I thought it was because I was new to her.

Anyways I left at that point without finishing the happy ending.

Has any one else had this happen at ERS or was I the one that freaked out instead of her.

She didn't do anything to calm me down when I got nervous.

Call Me Booger
07-10-06, 12:54
Edone, I'm not sure, but some girls get very nervous about talking about the handshake. I've had two providers say that you must touch them first before they will get to the handshake. House rule, to make sure you don't smell like Bacon.

Ragu, I believe Nancy is the same Nancy that used to be at CLV. She has reviews on this board. I would recommend her.

Bob P 1976
07-11-06, 11:32
I've never been to a "massage" parlor. I guess you can say I'm a virgin. I'm worried about getting crabs, and trying to explain that to my wife. Anybody ever have any problems?

Midwest10
07-11-06, 20:44
Bob P,

Yes crabs are a huge problem at massage parlors, but if you dip them in butter they taste very good.

But look out for those Asian ones you have to eat them sideways.

And the mexican ones you need to dip in blue cheese dressing!

Mr Stinky
07-12-06, 07:35
Don't forget the French crabs. Have to suck those little buggers.

But the English crabs are easy. They have no teeth.

Seriously, I've never heard of anyone on this board reporting a case of crabs. Proper hygiene usually takes care of any risk. Besides, if you do get them, you can always say you got them from a public toilet seat.

Mr Stinky

Midwest10
07-12-06, 08:26
Japanese crabs need to be eaten raw like sushi. German crabs need to be steamed in sauerkraut. I'm not even going to talk about Greek Crabs.

Here is a sample from the last massage parlor I went to in picture format.

PsyberZombie
07-12-06, 15:56
I've never been to a "massage" parlor. I guess you can say I'm a virgin. I'm worried about getting crabs, and trying to explain that to my wife. Anybody ever have any problems?

My fellow Mongers have given you some very amusing answers to your question , Bob

The Facts are = CRABS [ a.k.a. Pubic Lice ] live on and around hair shafts

... so if your AMP chick has a shaved kitty , yer extremely UN·likely to catch them from her

Just Me 69
07-12-06, 22:11
Remove the body from the shell, with your thumb and finger spread the body wide, put your lips on the crab and rub with your tongue

BigTen
07-14-06, 23:35
I visited ERS today, and had my choice of all of the ladies. There was a new one I have not heard mentioned, Samantha, who appears to have a very nice rack. I chose Trish and had a nice session. As previously reported, she is late 20's, about 5'5' and thin. She has a very small chest, but it is consistent with how petite she is. The massage was decent, and she has a nice technique. She is pleasant, without being too talkative. I would repeat with her. I must admit that Samantha, Dora, and one other new girl looked very appealing.

KingDd
07-15-06, 11:03
I just finished the reverse massage and said "Lets have some fun now". She said real loud "fun - what kind of fun - I don't understand what you are asking can you be more specific."

You suggested that a massage wasn't "fun", so maybe she thought you wanted sex?

Indy Wingman
07-18-06, 23:12
My biggest problem with this board is that I never remember enough of what I read and am too timid to be demanding.

I went to ERS last week on Thursday. Been about 2 years since I last got through Belvi and was eager for some relaxation. The lobby was full of girls, the receptionist told me all their names and even called a few more from the back. I definately recognized the first girl she named, so I went with her: Dora.

Now I'm not upset with my choice as I had an enjoyable time, but I have to agree with most of what has previously been said about her. She was very talkative about all kinds of stuff during our session: Her 13-yo son and the new laptop he wanted, her bedroom remodel (which would be fine if she was inviting me to come see it), her parent's plan to retire to Poland, her brother who has a girlfriend who's too controlling, etc. It went on and on. In fact, the only time she DIDN'T talk was during the flip, right when I would have enjoyed her getting vocal!

She was cute, and she got the job done, but there were plenty of other cute girls there as well. I probably would not repeat with Dora, but mostly because it's so rare that I get to Belvidere that I would rather try someone new each time.

Call Me Booger
07-20-06, 16:31
After reading the Deacon's post and several others about Dora, I thought I would share a conversation that I had with Dora a year ago. At the beginning of the massage she starts blabbing about the same things that Deacon described, family, heritage and so on....then it got weird/uncomfortable. For those who have not seen Dora, she sticks out in the line-up, huge fake bolt-ons, pretty face, nice body, so hard to pass up on.

So here's the conversation:

Dora:"You are a very handsome,"
Boog: "Um, thanks"
Dora:"Do you have any kids?"
Boog:"No" (at this point lil Boog is practically falling asleep from boredom)
Dora:"Have you thought about being a sperm donor?"
Boog thinking: WTF, where is this coming from
Dora continues"You have young face for your age, and handsome, do you know how much they pay a sperm donor?"
Boog:"No, (laughing uncomfortably)"
Dora:"I would like to have another kid soon"
Boog:"So how about them Bears?"

Okay, so this is the point where I'm supposed to flip over. She gets the hint, and changes the subject, but what the hell was that all about?!

I've edited this convo down, but took about 5 minutes in real time but felt like forever.

Mr Stinky
07-20-06, 17:04
Hey Boog. I think she liked you. You should have told her the only way is the old fashioned way. No squirting in a boyyle, squirt at the target.
It's been my experience that sometimes the girls get bored themselves and like to mess with a customers mind just to lighten up their day. I remember a conversaion with a former employee of ERS (Remember Peggy?) and she told me just that. Messed with their minds a little.

Mr Stinky

Silver Rope
07-20-06, 19:24
Recently made a visit to ERS. Have not been there for some time. Options were limited to one girl, (Nicole??) not bad looking but she is one B-I-T-C-H. Most of the time with the girls, I have been able to touch the merchandise in various areas. But NO, lay down, dont move, don't touch. If you don't like it, there is the friggin door! This trip I should have saved myself the cash and did the job myself. ERS is on my iggy list for good.

BigTen
07-20-06, 22:51
Recently made a visit to ERS. Have not been there for some time. Options were limited to one girl, (Nicole??) not bad looking but she is one B-I-T-C-H. Most of the time with the girls, I have been able to touch the merchandise in various areas. But NO, lay down, dont move, don't touch. If you don't like it, there is the friggin door! This trip I should have saved myself the cash and did the job myself. ERS is on my iggy list for good.That sounds pretty similar to a session I had with Nicole a couple of years ago. Time has dulled my memory, but let's just say she was about as responsive as a corpse. I think she has a terrific body, but who needs her attitude!

Relentless
07-24-06, 12:48
I totally concurr with these reports. I have seen Nicole for the last several years but this year she changed and previously you could play wher tits,even some superficial pussy action,no digits but touch and rub kittyand even have her do handshake w tits. She has gone very sour and it is only her hands touching and let me touch tits while reverse but no pussy play. Certainly not the old Nicole and probably not for me in future.

KingDd
07-24-06, 20:33
I documented this issue with Nicole's attitude, right in this very forum, back in October of 2004.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=307547&highlight=Nicole#post307547

It's too bad, because she has a smoking body.

Love It
07-25-06, 12:42
The alternate for Nicole-lovers is Samantha. Smoking bod (has tatoos and rings though), extremely professional, good conversationalist and massage. I suspect that she will not respond too positively to crude/rash advances.

Midwest10
07-31-06, 12:07
You suggested that a massage wasn't "fun", so maybe she thought you wanted sex?

Hey King - I think your right - Maybe I did come across to aggressivive! Thanks for your point of view!

Love It
08-01-06, 17:46
Tried Trisha...disappointing.
Said she was tired. Mediocre massage. Petite but average bod with average face. Poor conversation in the jacuzzi.
Expect a much higher level of service (massage quality and conversation).
Would not repeat.

Midwest10
08-06-06, 14:41
Can somebody PM me on the + / -'s of having a card there. I think it is like a frequent member card. A couple of the girls have asked if I had one and I've always shook it off fast that I don't want to be on any mailing lists.

Does such a card exist? Does it make the girl more relaxed if you have one?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Midwest10
08-06-06, 22:45
The blue card is just a punch card- NO mailing list involved. When you get a x amount of punches the next one is free or you just tip the girl- I don't remember.


Thanks Lincoln!!!!

Oh Boy
08-06-06, 23:29
The card helps tell them if you are a repeat customer. Your first card is white, after that they are all blue. They also keep track of your punches in a book. I once had a girl tell me that I had been shorted a punch and the lady at the desk had given me an extra one. They keep track by a number on the card, not with your name.

Ragu Guy
08-07-06, 08:55
After ten punches on the card, you only pay $45 for the next session. Plus whatever you want to tip.

Midwest10
08-07-06, 10:41
Wow - I've been missing out. Thank you for your posts on the subject!

Joe Hart
08-17-06, 21:54
Not a report but a request for infomation. What the hours at ERS? What is the latest you can get in?

Farwest Burbs
08-21-06, 03:33
Not a report but a request for infomation. What the hours at ERS? What is the latest you can get in?

EHS is open M-F 10:00 AM - 8:00 PM

Sat & Sun 12:00 noon - 9:00 PM


I don't know when they actually lock the door. When I go there it's mid-afternoon on the weekend.

Give them a call (815) 547-5557, and let us all know the answer.

FWB

Roy
08-21-06, 08:27
Yes, those are the hours.

The door is locked at 8:00pm during the week and 9:00pm on Sat and Sun.
They will take a customer right up until those times, but it's best to come in a half hour before (7:30pm or 8:30pm). The girls don't appreciate a customer walking in 15 minutes before closing time, and don't know if you would get the best session.

KingDd
08-22-06, 00:02
Yes, those are the hours.

The door is locked at 8:00pm during the week and 9:00pm on Sat and Sun.
They will take a customer right up until those times, but it's best to come in a half hour before (7:30pm or 8:30pm). The girls don't appreciate a customer walking in 15 minutes before closing time, and don't know if you would get the best session.


I agree with Roy. In fact if you show up a little more than an hour before closing you'll probably be her last of the night so she's more likely to take her time with you, since she won't want another session 2 minutes before closing.

Joe Hart
08-23-06, 23:00
Thanks Guys.

I like the idea of showing up a little more than an hour before closing. I'll be there next week I hope. Just not sure what time. I'll report back.

Thanks for all the help.

Enjoy!

Xxofe
08-29-06, 13:12
Just got back yestarday from a a great time with Katie. I guess she has been around for a while, but somehow I missed her.

So here's how the session went. First of all there were several ladies to choose from. the only one I had been with before, Dora, was among them. Having been with her on two enjoyable occassions I decided to opt for something new. Of the talent available tho none realy turned me on. There were a couple of younger ladies with nice bods, but I shyed away from them as past experience shows the the young ones to be hit or miss. Because I had to wait a couple of minutes for all the girls to come out I had a chance to contemplate my choices. I finally settled on Katie. She was mid thirties, blond, well padded, some would call overweight, but not to bad.
Off to the room for the normal shower, but no jacuzzi today as it was being cleaned. The Massage was above average for this place, and I began to feel that it was too good, often a sign of a mediocre ending. But on the reverse I was pleased to find that Katie seemed to actually enjoy the attention. After a few minutes she rolled over and massaged me while I massaged her. I could have ended it right there, but we changed positions and she finished the massage in great fashion allowing me full exterior access while she took care of my needs.

Over all she was great I would rate it thus
Looks 7
attitude 9
access 9
performance 8
finish 9

Nearnorthguy
08-30-06, 22:09
I used to go to the Executive quite regularly 5-6 years ago and was a regular of Sandy, Donna, and Keisha. Very nice girls. Anybody remember them?

Midwest10
09-06-06, 14:35
I'm just curious why only ERS is mentioned on this board and not C'est. I've been to C'est a couple times, but its been a couple of years and I always had a great time. I remember an older woman there called Sugar that allowed multiple pops.

I haven't gone there lately, because I haven't heard anything about the place. Is it still around? How is the talent? Is it the same price as ERS? Do they have a Table Shower now?

Any info would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to be out that way next week.

Call Me Booger
09-06-06, 16:40
I used to hit CLV somewhat regularly at the beginning of the year, and I've put up multiple reviews about the providers.

Here's my .02 on why there are not many posts about it. When you walk into Exec, you almost always have 4-7 girls to choose from with ages from 20-50, and body shapes of all sizes. Basically more variety and eye candy.

At CLV, at least during the daytime, they have usually 4 girls working, so if one or two is in session, you are left with a couple of options. And those options are typically, Ginger and Pepper, older providers, grandma types.
Ginger at least gives a very good massage, Pepper is just plain bad.

When I was going, Susan and Amy were solid providers. Although Amy is a tip pusher. But both speak Russian.

Chiharco
09-07-06, 03:47
Ya, it's been like forever since I've posted, anyway, had to break the hiatus for a slight correction;

I think you may have mixed it up Booger, at least I would hope so. Amy is not the tip pusher, she's pretty down to earth, and an all around great experience. That piece of crap Susan, Monica, whatever she's calling herself these days is the pusher to the extreme. Gives a bad experience from the word go, at least in my opinion. I don't just formulate my opinions on one experience also, call it the "benefit of the doubt" for someone having an off day. Seen her twice and ended not tipping either time because of how aggrivating it was.

As far as Amy, seen her multiple times. I like variety and it's been years since I've actually went with the intention of seeing her, yet have because she's a solid fall back. I'd highly reccommend as she has been consistant for years, a rarity at these places; Example: former favorite Dora from Executive went whacky over the years.

Here's my report for the last 2 years;

Seems like forever since I've been to Exec for a session, have walked in & out multiple times, CLV every two months or so, day mostly, night crew sucks (have checked the scene a time ot two), memorized names & faces so phone first, and still extremely missing Lori & Jenna who went above and beyond the call of duty for me everytime (no wonder they're gone).

Call Me Booger
09-07-06, 16:13
Sounds like a case of YMMV.

Susan's one of my favorites at CLV.

Amy is too, but she does play more tip games with me, whereas Susan doesn't.

Thanks for the info on the night time at CLV, I was always curious what that crowd looked like.

Joe Hart
09-08-06, 01:42
Following some tips (but not all) from this site, I arrived at Ers about 7:20 PM. The receptionist called all the girls out and I was surprised when about 10 showed up.. When there are that many girls it's a little hard to pick one. The Girls were all shapes, sizes and ages. But without question, one stood out above all the rest. And that would be Ashley. She really stood out!

So, my pick was Ashley.

She is one beautiful woman. On the flip, I marvel at her tan. She goes to a tanning spa so her tan is complete. A downside was she did not allow any kissing of her beautiful size DD breasts but just seeing them was a great experience. She did say "no kissing but you can touch all you want". Now, I know that's not a good sign but she is so hot that it didn't really matter at the time.

I enjoyed the full session with her and she did not watch the clock at all. I would certainly repeat.

Enjoy!

Chiharco
09-08-06, 01:59
Ya, YMMV. Seems to be the norm at these places. I guess the girls have got their "favorites" also.

As far as the night shift; my take on it, at least lately, is that CLV night shift is the last refuge for all who have been washed up in the Belvidere/Rockford scene. If your familiar with the shops in Rock, then you'll notice a few benchwarmers currently on the night shift (but that doesn't mean they go above & beyond standards).

Call Me Booger
09-08-06, 17:16
I used to go pretty regularly to CLV and usually saw the same 2-3 girls. My goal (as I'm sure others have tried too) was to build a rapport with them and hopefully get some higher mileage than the usual options. I never succeeded, other than a quick nut lick by one of the girls.

The Belvidere scene just got old for me with nothing more to be had than a hj or russian. Especially since I've started going to Madison, which for a little more money, I can get practically whatever I want. So the Belvidere experience pales in comparison to Madison.

Midwest10
09-08-06, 17:33
Hey thanks for the posts on CLV and for giving everybody the insight on the Madison area. I think I'm going to have to take a business trip up there!


Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

Chiharco
09-08-06, 23:05
I used to go pretty regularly to CLV and usually saw the same 2-3 girls. My goal (as I'm sure others have tried too) was to build a rapport with them and hopefully get some higher mileage than the usual options. I never succeeded, other than a quick nut lick by one of the girls.Ya, me too, same ideas, same goals. I was able to succeed a time or two, actually I'm downplaying there, but that seems to be a thing of the past. At least two years now have been a brick wall. The one's with years of solid service and are still there (Amy, Sophia, Nancy) never did beyond the standard. Like a sucker, I go back just to see if I can do it again. There's a few that I wish I knew where they were at now, but have never popped back up anywhere in the scene, Rockford or Chicago (but hey, with your mention of Madison there is hope). I got one for ya if you wish, only through PM and only to you, pretty much standard, but an extreme pro.

Mannamik
09-08-06, 23:37
Speaking of regulars at CLV, is Sophia still breaking hearts? What a rythm that lady had.

Mannamik
09-12-06, 07:28
Had an infrequent chance to stop at ERS on Sunday. I do not get out there as often since Peggy left, and when I do, usually see Kara based on your reports, but Sunday, Kara was not there, nor were any of the other ladies recently reviewed, so I ended up with Jodi, who apparently is new.

I say new because she does not yet have a permanent schedule, and she lamented the fact that there were a lot of girls working. She is attractive, nice figure, busty, all natural, dark hair and eyes. I opted for the no lotion massage, which means for me a gentle, sensual tease. She was curious about that, talkative, playful. On the reverse she wanted a strong massage on her shoulders and back, it took us a awhile to connect. On her reverse she seemed to be a bit on guard for out of bounds touch, and seemed distracted at moments, but very open to eye contact, smiling immediately. On my reverse, her true talents emerged. She did take things nice and easy, and spoke russian fluently, seductively. She said to see her you will have to call for her schedule. My sense is if she knows you, and as she becomes more comfortable with the range of folks she meets and works with, she will be a fine provider.

Love It
09-12-06, 14:57
Visited ERS a few days back. Asked and got ashley. She has a nice bod..large bust, good waist, nice bottom. Good convo but massage was sub par...6 at most. No kissing anywhere..not very intimate. Would repeat only infrequently.

Nearnorthguy
09-13-06, 20:52
I used to go pretty regularly to CLV and usually saw the same 2-3 girls. My goal (as I'm sure others have tried too) was to build a rapport with them and hopefully get some higher mileage than the usual options. I never succeeded, other than a quick nut lick by one of the girls.

The Belvidere scene just got old for me with nothing more to be had than a hj or russian. Especially since I've started going to Madison, which for a little more money, I can get practically whatever I want. So the Belvidere experience pales in comparison to Madison.Where do you recommend in Madison?

Turkey John
09-14-06, 12:43
I just found out Nancy is no longer at ERS. I saw her in the lobby a while ago and had her on my to do list but never got that far. Anyone know anything about her?

Ragu Guy
09-14-06, 13:51
After my last session with Ashley, which was very similar to Love It's recent post, Ashley suggested I might like Nancy. I told Ashley some of the girls were a little more liberal than she was while staying within the general rules of ERS. That is when she mentioned Nancy's name. She did not say that Nancy bent any rules and I never got a chance to find out for myself.

Call Me Booger
09-14-06, 16:51
TJ, I believe the Nancy you are talking about was the one that used to work at CLV (she was fired from there---don't know why). I hate to say this, but you missed out on a good one. Nice body with bolt ons, a good massage and creative finish. She told me she was also a dancer, but I don't remember where. If you look back in late winter or early spring, I did a review on her.

Nearnorthguy, I'll try not to sound like an ass when I say this but--RTFF.
Go to the Wiconsin-Madison section and read back through the folders, and you will find everything you need. Locations, names, directions, prices--it's all there for the reading.

KingDd
09-15-06, 02:35
Where do you recommend in Madison?

The GH and the RS are the only 2 games in town.

Turkey John
09-15-06, 17:16
Would it be too much to hope that she reads this board and would back channel me with contact information ?!?!?! Maybe she's freelancing ?


One can dream.

Chiharco
09-16-06, 01:48
Nancy is back at CLV.

Mac Man
09-16-06, 08:10
A long time customer of The Exec, I thought I might like to at least give CLV a shot ( no pun intended ). Are the prices there similar to the Exec.?

Mac Man

Turkey John
09-16-06, 11:58
Nancy is back at CLV.

I'm there !!

Midwest10
09-16-06, 17:22
They are about the same

Nearnorthguy
09-17-06, 18:25
Nearnorthguy, I'll try not to sound like an ass when I say this but--RTFF.
Go to the Wiconsin-Madison section and read back through the folders, and you will find everything you need. Locations, names, directions, prices--it's all there for the reading.Unfortunately, you did not succeed in not sounding like an ass.

Slammer 82
09-18-06, 02:17
I visited Exec. and was greeted by quite a large lineup. I decided to choose Sabrina whom I've seen before. For those of you who haven't seen her she has a dark complexion, petite, shapely but not much on top, and fairly attractive. The massage was actually pretty good but the rest of the session was overall event free. She was awfully restrictive on the reverse in sharp contrast with the first visit I had with her. Her personality seemed alright but I just felt like she wasn't really into it and was just going through the motions. It seems to be a trend I'm experiencing there of late. One thing that sort of bothered me a bit was that I paid $100 at the beginning and was going to leave the $15 change for a tip. However, it was never even brought back. It shouldn't really matter to me because she was going to get it anyhow but it was just the principle of the thing.

Another thing that I've noticed is that every time I see a girl for the 2nd time it is a lot worse than the 1st. Seems to me that it would be the other way around. I'm wondering if it's just me or if any of you guys have the same experience.

Since I've been in sort of a slump for a while at Exec. I'll probably try some place else to see if things change a bit. I was thinking of maybe trying CLV or going to Rockford and trying the LSs (never been to one before). Any advice or p.m.s would be appreciated.

Later Slammer

Roy
09-18-06, 07:11
Slammer,

It's not just you. I have noticed the same thing lately. Seems to be a whole new change in attitude there. I don't know why, but the girls just don't seem to care about providing good service like they did a few years ago. Used to be a lot more fun.

Don't know about the lingerie places, but you might want to try the places in Madison, if it's not too far for you.

Ragu Guy
09-18-06, 08:52
My recent experiences at ERS have been pretty much the same as Slammer’s. A couple of the girls I have seen there for the first time provided an OK session. Second sessions with the same girl have inevitably been worse than the first ones. Most of the girls I am referring to are younger, so maybe that accounts for part of the problem. I would like to try a couple of other girls that have been reviewed here and see what happens. I’ll let you know.

Jimbo33
09-18-06, 11:02
I visited Exec. and was greeted by quite a large lineup. I decided to choose Sabrina whom I've seen before. For those of you who haven't seen her she has a dark complexion, petite, shapely but not much on top, and fairly attractive. The massage was actually pretty good but the rest of the session was overall event free. She was awfully restrictive on the reverse in sharp contrast with the first visit I had with her. Her personality seemed alright but I just felt like she wasn't really into it and was just going through the motions. It seems to be a trend I'm experiencing there of late. One thing that sort of bothered me a bit was that I paid $100 at the beginning and was going to leave the $15 change for a tip. However, it was never even brought back. It shouldn't really matter to me because she was going to get it anyhow but it was just the principle of the thing.

Another thing that I've noticed is that every time I see a girl for the 2nd time it is a lot worse than the 1st. Seems to me that it would be the other way around. I'm wondering if it's just me or if any of you guys have the same experience.

Since I've been in sort of a slump for a while at Exec. I'll probably try some place else to see if things change a bit. I was thinking of maybe trying CLV or going to Rockford and trying the LSs (never been to one before). Any advice or p.m.s would be appreciated.

Later Slammer

I've had that ' No returned change experience ' happen to me there b4. I don't think that is a very good idea if you're looking for a return customer.
I also believe that the service is beginning to slack-off. They may be under pressure from someone. I just hope that it's a temporary set-back and things return to normal.

Ragu Guy
09-18-06, 11:26
I called Exec this morning to see when Nancy is scheduled for this week. Contrary to a recent post that said she was back, I was told she no longer works there. So if someone knows where she went, please pass it on.

Tencan
09-18-06, 12:34
I have a cabin about an 1/2 hour away from Madison and am up there a lot. There are some independents that travle to the area...btu the pciking are slim and most of the girls are charging too much. Rising Sun and Geisha House are the only 2 places where you will get any regular action. Most of the girls working these places offer FS for te right price. Some are good looking...others not. The prices are about the same at both places...but there is more upselling at RS. GH has started to get the same way with the upselling BS, and I have not been going to either because of it. Not all the girls do it...but I do not want to waste my money on a bad session. It used to be you paid the house fee, and then tipped the same amount to the girl for the session. A massage with hj/oral was the short time fee...and massage FS was the long time fee. The last several times I sent in it was extra for topless, extra for french, extra for roaming hands, extra for russian. I hate that crap. That is the hole reason I go to a MP instead of seeing a provider. I pay one set fee and I know what I am going to get everytime.

Turkey John
09-18-06, 12:47
Unfortunately, you did not succeed in not sounding like an ass.



NearNorth, with all due respect, please read the forum. If you're not willing to do that much to help yourself, no one else will be willing to help you. ... teach a man to fish ...

Turkey John
09-18-06, 12:50
Slammer,

It's not just you. I have noticed the same thing lately. Seems to be a whole new change in attitude there. I don't know why, but the girls just don't seem to care about providing good service like they did a few years ago. Used to be a lot more fun.

Don't know about the lingerie places, but you might want to try the places in Madison, if it's not too far for you.

Can you give some names on who the bad sessions are coming from? I have not been there in a while, but last time I was my gal was awesome. I like Michelle and Kara. Michelle is leaving soon, so hurry up and get in there.

Midwest10
09-18-06, 13:01
NearNorth, with all due respect, please read the forum. If you're not willing to do that much to help yourself, no one else will be willing to help you. ... teach a man to fish ...


Great response - something tells me it will go right over his head!

Love It
09-18-06, 14:10
Tried Ashley after the good reviews.
Pretty girl with a nice bod (8). My first time with her. Very sub par massage (5) and did not appear to want to engage. Not very intimate. Overall the experience was poor. Would not repeat.

Ragu Guy
09-18-06, 16:05
I called the Exec earlier today to see what Nancy's schedule was for the week. Contrary to other reports, she is NOT back working at the Executive. If anyone has any other info, please pass it along.

(Thought I posted this earlier today - but I do not see it on the forum. I apologize if it is a duplicate.)

Oh Boy
09-18-06, 17:20
I called the Exec earlier today to see what Nancy's schedule was for the week. Contrary to other reports, she is NOT back working at the Executive. If anyone has any other info, please pass it along.

(Thought I posted this earlier today - but I do not see it on the forum. I apologize if it is a duplicate.)I'm pretty sure the report ssats Nancy is back at CLV.

Chiharco
09-18-06, 19:26
I just had a session with her a week and a half ago. Go figure, I guess it was short lived. I doubt she went back up the street, didn't have much good to say about the experience. I say patience, she'll pop up somewhere, more than likely, back at CLV. Heck, she's worked there off and on for about 10 years. The cycle tends to be; has a disagreement, quits or gets fired, disappears for a month or two, then back at CLV. The little tour at Exec was the first time I believe she actually worked elsewhere.

Mannamik
09-18-06, 23:21
Called today to find out what her hours were this week. She did not show up today, Monday, but is scheduled for Tues. Mannamik

Chiharco
09-19-06, 17:46
I'm pretty sure the report ssats Nancy is back at CLV.I replied to Ragu Guy and didn't even notice that he mentioned Executive. Nope, she's not there, try CLV and if she's not there, refer to my last post.

AdaptableMan
09-20-06, 14:58
New to the board guys so this is my first post.

Went to CLV yesterday evening. Had young pretty thing named Gloria. Firm ass small tits. Average massage but nothing specail. Finished massage and said we have 15 minutes left. I took her hand and said finish the job. She gave a decent finish but again nothing special. Guess I gotta check out Executive and see how it rates. Any reccomendations on ladies who make the full session an erotic one and not just the last 15 minutes.

Thanks

BigTen
09-20-06, 23:09
New to the board guys so this is my first post.

Went to CLV yesterday evening. Had young pretty thing named Gloria. Firm ass small tits. Average massage but nothing specail. Finished massage and said we have 15 minutes left. I took her hand and said finish the job. She gave a decent finish but again nothing special. Guess I gotta check out Executive and see how it rates. Any reccomendations on ladies who make the full session an erotic one and not just the last 15 minutes.

ThanksNot to doubt you, but it's hard to believe there is a young, attractive lady at CLV. This would be the 1st one in 20 years.

Chiharco
09-21-06, 00:36
Adaptableman, those night shifters seem so damn uninspired, try the day shift or the weekend. For a first timer to the day shift, you can't go wrong with Sophia (or Amy IMO). Nancy has been getting some air time on here lately, but she'll probably give the rush if your new. I'd stay away from the "older" crowd with the exception of Monique. If you've never been to Executive, it'll be new and exciting and probably very satisfying. I might be back there soon, been awhile, the same routine had grown old for me there, now CLVs getting routine.

and, of course, you could just use the search function or read a few pages to get an idea on who's right for you.

Call Me Booger
09-21-06, 10:10
Let's not bash the guy on his first report. It may be rare but not impossible that a hotty might work at CLV.

I would agree with Chiharco, go to CLV in the daytime and ask for Amy. Just be prepared to tip what you want to tip, since she sometimes likes to play the tip game.

BibiBiloui
09-21-06, 14:21
Not to doubt you, but it's hard to believe there is a young, attractive lady at CLV. This would be the 1st one in 20 years.That's not exactly true. I remember seeing a fairly hot blond and a sweet, sexy redhead with a southern accent there and it couldn't have been more than 15 years ago.

Turkey John
09-21-06, 15:35
Not to doubt you, but it's hard to believe there is a young, attractive lady at CLV. This would be the 1st one in 20 years.

What about Sophia?

Mr Stinky
09-21-06, 20:13
And let us not forget the one and only Ginger. She worked MANY years ago at Golden Touch in Rockford and she was old then.

Chiharco
09-21-06, 22:17
It's reports like the previous few why I prefer CLV. Keep thinking that way because I don't like to make appointments and it's great to be able to walk in and get what who you want. So keep up the good work because there are a few lookers there and I like seeing them not being busy enough to be able to take care of me.

So ya, they all suck, they're all old, ugly, fat, or with an attitude, stay far away. Go to Exclusive where all the young, good looking, attitude free chics are. Seriously and I'm not rolling my eyes either.

Mac Man
09-23-06, 08:04
A long time Executive customer, I just thought I'd give CLV a shot, despite all the negative reports I read over the years. Walked in on Friday afternoon and had a choice of three...Monique, Nancy and Sophia. Long story made short, I had a great session with Sophia. Very relaxing and quite thorough massage, great attitude, and a very nice finish. She even washed my back in the shower. Definitely will repeat.

Mac Man

AdaptableMan
09-25-06, 12:17
Hey guys why so doubting?

I admitted it was my first review but I am not a liar. Call for yourself her name was Gloria and I believe she is 23 or 24? She is pretty but the massage was boring so I really don't recommend her.

Anyway I get to Belvidere once or twice a month for business and will report next month on my adventures.

Later

Bedroom Eyes
09-26-06, 14:53
Was in the Belvidere area so I decided to stop in and see who was available at ERS. Only 3 ladies were offered so I choose Jodi. Dark hair, very busty and a nice body. She's a very pleasant gal who likes to talk. She performed a good massage right from the start. On the reverse she wanted her shoulders hard massaged which I had no problem with. Everything else was off limits and she quickly got me back on the table for the finish.

My big beef with her is the moment I exploded she literally threw a dry washcloth on me and said she was going to shower and I should clean up while she was away! WTF? In my book that's unacceptable and I wouldn't see her again for that reason when there are plenty of other choices. I do miss Peggy!

Can Show You
09-27-06, 09:52
Hello all, long time reader, rare for me to post. FIrstly, I spell like a college Professor, but type like a monkey. Had a great session end of last week with Jennifer. Nice girl, nice tan, small on top, but i really like that. Got to go there a bit then was later gently guided away for some reason. Good massage, good reverse, kept her hand busy while i worked, that was great. Never had lotion then oil used, made for an amazing finish. Breathing, rythym was great touch. Some kind words on size, distance and quantity were well appreciated, love to hear that! Will go back but as always YMMV. IF any one else has had a session with her please let me know here or in PM, thanks.

MikeGee
09-27-06, 10:11
I started going to the Exec and CLV in the '94-'95 timeframe. At that point in time, there were more young, hot ladies at CLV than Exec, and the mileage was better. Gloria (certainly not the current Gloria), Erin, Colleen, Veronica, Yvette, Vanna - all in the lineup in those days at CLV, all under 30 and all hot. (I keep my notes!). I think the dramatic fall off in talent at CLV happened about '98 or so, and since then I have been an Exec customer on each visit to Belvie.

I haven't posted much here but enjoy the info you guys provide, but unfortunately I don't get out in that direction much anymore. In the old days I used to have a customer in Madison so on my trip from Chicago I would stop both ways.

Take care Gents.


Not to doubt you, but it's hard to believe there is a young, attractive lady at CLV. This would be the 1st one in 20 years.

Tornacl
09-28-06, 09:51
I must agree with Mike. Gloria, 1995, was quite enjoyable as well as flexibile. wink wink.

It seemed the talent at both places declined as the economy improved between 95 and 2000.

Mr Stinky
09-28-06, 14:18
If we're going to dig up old names (And broads), back in the early to mid ninties was Lois. I first met her at CLV. Then she moved to the Golden Touch in Rockford. She was a REAL provider. Tall and thin. Great technique on and off the table. When she moved to Rockford, I also met Ginger. She was an old bag then. And I understand she's still playing her games at CLV. I'll give her one thing. Ginger has great wrinkles.

Corndog #2
09-28-06, 18:49
[QUOTE=Mr Stinky]If we're going to dig up old names (And broads), back in the early to mid ninties was Lois.

My mother's name was Lois.

Turkey John
10-04-06, 13:40
Made it over to CLV to look Nancy up and OMG, am I happy I did. What a girl!! I love her look. I'd give her a 9.5, not all guys may agree. I usually do not like the enhanced titts, but did not matter with her. Amazing body. Sexy attitude. My new ATF !!

Last time I was at CLV Ginger really put a lot of pressure on for a tip in the beginning which was a big turn off. It was nice that Nancy did not do that although she did end up getting more from me than Ginger did and it was all warranted.


All the best !!!

TJ

AdaptableMan
10-04-06, 15:16
Two things:

First is Nancy a dayshifter or does she work nights?

Secondly I had a buddy of mine tell me he was a regular in Belvidere until a few months back when he said the talent level was really elevated at a place called THe Golden Touch in Rockford. I have never been but he said it is not a full service place but does have some very accomodating ladies now employed there. I am thinking about checking it out on my next client visit in late October. Any of you guys been to the Golden Touch recently?

Later

BibiBiloui
10-05-06, 14:41
Secondly I had a buddy of mine tell me he was a regular in Belvidere until a few months back when he said the talent level was really elevated at a place called THe Golden Touch in Rockford. I have never been but he said it is not a full service place but does have some very accomodating ladies now employed there. I am thinking about checking it out on my next client visit in late October. Any of you guys been to the Golden Touch recently?

LaterIf GT has elevated their talent level, I'd really love to know. That place is my sentimental favorite--I had my first experience there.

Turkey John
10-05-06, 14:43
Two things:

First is Nancy a dayshifter or does she work nights?

Secondly I had a buddy of mine tell me he was a regular in Belvidere until a few months back when he said the talent level was really elevated at a place called THe Golden Touch in Rockford. I have never been but he said it is not a full service place but does have some very accomodating ladies now employed there. I am thinking about checking it out on my next client visit in late October. Any of you guys been to the Golden Touch recently?

Later

Daytime...

Turkey John
10-05-06, 16:08
Anyone have any experience with Patty ? Please PM details

Call Me Booger
10-05-06, 17:53
Well, all this talk about CLV put me in the mood to make a visit. I haven't been to either Belv fine establishments in the past 6 months, choosing the Madison places and suburb amps to spend my hard-earner mongering dollars instead.

Walk in to Clv and see Pepper sitting there, the lady at the desk hits the little bell and next walks in Ginger.....damn....damn....damn. I've seen both before, but I'm just not into the whole AARP thing. Seriously, it's time for these two to retire. More on them later.

Thank goodness Sophie and Nancy came in. I've seen both before, but since Nancy just had a glowing review I picked her. TJ's report is very accurate, she's got a great bod and gives a good session.

But what I want to rant about today is the conversation I had with Nancy. Yes, actual conversation-talking, although I wouldn't mind getting a French or Greecian lesson from her.

She mentioned that it had been slow, and that they need to freshen up the talent pool. I told her that the ginger/pepper show was getting pretty old (pun intended). I said that I don't come here very often anymore, because of the lack of selection, but more so when I learned that the receptionist will try to help Ginger/Pepper get business, by making other girls stay in the back. Which is bullshit from a customers point of view. She agreed and said she was hoping that they would get some younger talent coming in, but she wouldn't hold her breath. I asked about the night talent, she said they were younger, but rough looking. Her words. And she also mentioned that Amy is no longer there, and that Susan had moved up the street. So two of the better 25-40 somethings are gone. She said the best bet is to call ahead and make an appt.

Sorry for the long rant,
Boog

RogerC
10-06-06, 20:07
Anybody remember Frank Gay's Marquee?

I remember going there back in 1993-1994 and meeting a real sweetie there. Her name was "Amee" or sometimes she went by "Suzanne", long blonde hair, no tatoos, and sweet sweet face.

I had a serious thing for her.

She fell off the earth in 1994. I heard she broke up with her man and moved away.

Mannamik
10-07-06, 07:07
For those of you who remember Peggy, and would like a phone number to see her again, please back channel me. I have only the number, please.

Mannamik

Mannamik
10-07-06, 07:11
How about Brandy? Long beautiful legs. It seems to me that when the locals moved to lock out a porn shop that someone wanted to open, and closed Frank Gay's, that is when the folks at CLV really changed their approach to sessions. Would love to know where Brandy is.

AdaptableMan
10-10-06, 15:48
Hey quick question guys

I have never used a credit card at Executive or CLV and I was wondering have any of you and if so how is it billed?

Does the credit card statement actualyy say Ceste La Vie on it or Executive relaxation. I used to go to strip clubs 8-10 years back and they would bill it as XYZ corp or US Industry.

Okay so I don't want the live in girlfriend to find out about my hobby so freakin sue me.

If you guys can share your knowledge I would appreciate it.

D

Oh Boy
10-10-06, 22:45
I have always used cash to avoid any paper trail. I'm just to nervous about having the SO trace my deeds. As far as I know Exec only takes cash. CLV used to take CC and I have not heard or read anything different. Matbe a cash advance is a better route.

Ci-Traveler
10-11-06, 08:30
Hey quick question guys

I have never used a credit card at Executive or CLV and I was wondering have any of you and if so how is it billed?

One big reason for never using a credit card would be to avoid possible misuse of the card after the fact. All someone needs is the information on the card to steal - and people who are illegal aliens in a country where they can't be traced easily are perfect candidates to misuse such an item.

Beyond that - I just wouldn't want to have a trail leading back to an establishment that had a history of anything unusual.

ci-traveler

Jimbo33
10-11-06, 10:33
One big reason for never using a credit card would be to avoid possible misuse of the card after the fact. All someone needs is the information on the card to steal - and people who are illegal aliens in a country where they can't be traced easily are perfect candidates to misuse such an item.

Beyond that - I just wouldn't want to have a trail leading back to an establishment that had a history of anything unusual.

ci-traveler


I agree totally. If a bust were to come down 10 years down the road, they may still have your info on file. Play it safe. Use those Presidents. If any of those bills had a pic of Clinton on there, you would be guaranteed a good BJ.

Bob22
10-12-06, 01:04
Have not been there in some time. Thinking of stopping on Saturday. Do Saturday afternoons usually have decent talent? Any recommendations for which ladies are currently the best and maybe some descriptions.

Thanks

Bob22
10-12-06, 20:34
If you had your choice from this line up who would you pick & why? A description of the persons looks would be appreciated too. Here is the line up: Vicki, Judy, Jenny, Barb, Jodi, Dora, Serena. Thanks

Mr Stinky
10-13-06, 09:54
If you know the line up, then go back in history and check reviews. Usually, a newbe on this board must post a few times before a lot of info is passed along. We don't know who you are. And what your motives are. Check history and then make some posts.

Midwest10
10-13-06, 10:35
Stinky is right, but let me emphasize the correct order.

1) Make some posts to earn trust

2) Do your homework and review the forum.

3) Then ask questions. You'll be amazed at the detailed responses you will get!

BibiBiloui
10-13-06, 11:44
How about Brandy? Long beautiful legs. It seems to me that when the locals moved to lock out a porn shop that someone wanted to open, and closed Frank Gay's, that is when the folks at CLV really changed their approach to sessions. Would love to know where Brandy is.I don't remember Brandy, but I do remember the Marquee. I'm glad you guys brought this up because I was thinking about that place last week and I didn't want to mention it here for fear that the "Nostalgia police" would come down on me again. Since the topic's already here, I remember a hard-bodied girl with short blonde hair and an attitude who liked to dance to Blondie's "The tide is high"--she had "Future escort" written all over her. There was also an older girl named Cookie who was really fun and friendly and kind of gave me the impression that if I caught her in the right mood, extras would be available. Great place. I wonder what happened to those girls.

HJ Guy
10-13-06, 12:03
I got some free time this afternoon (if you know what I mean). Thinking of taking a drive. Is anyone at CLV or ERS worth a 2 hr drive each way these days? Thanks in advance for the info.

Strider
10-13-06, 13:03
I was there a few times over a few months back in '95. My favorite was Paige - tall, athletically curvy, long, dark red hair and a light dusting of freckles under big green eyes....what time is it? I drifted off there for a minute:-).

Call Me Booger
10-13-06, 14:28
If you had your choice from this line up who would you pick & why? A description of the persons looks would be appreciated too. Here is the line up: Vicki, Judy, Jenny, Barb, Jodi, Dora, Serena. Thanks


Well here's my breakdown

Vicki---she's cute and told me to "stay sweet and have a great summer" when she signed my yearbook.

Judy---she has cooties, so I stay away from her

Jenny---She's nice and we used to go out, but we had to break up because of my 9pm curfew

Jodi---she's mean, pulled my hair once

Dora---I think she is the foreign exchange student--not sure

Serena---is smart and let's me borrow her homework

Corndog #2
10-13-06, 17:28
AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!


Well here's my breakdown

Vicki---she's cute and told me to "stay sweet and have a great summer" when she signed my yearbook.

Judy---she has cooties, so I stay away from her

Jenny---She's nice and we used to go out, but we had to break up because of my 9pm curfew

Jodi---she's mean, pulled my hair once

Dora---I think she is the foreign exchange student--not sure

Serena---is smart and let's me borrow her homework

Mr Stinky
10-14-06, 09:25
Booger,
Not only is Jodi mean, she gave me a case of the crabs once. Just from dry-humping on her sofa when her parents were gone for the weekend. And you're right, Dora is the exchange student and barely speak any English. I do know she doesn't speak french though.

Chiharco
10-14-06, 19:27
Fuckin' Bob22. I've been looking for Serena's wearabouts these days, formerly of Rockford Exclusive, and hasn't popped up anywhere for months. Fuckin' Bob got me all excited, bastard. It's Sabrina, get the names right. Sabrina!

Anyway, my report; Jenny, usual thing, chose her because she's always treated me right. It broke my Executive hiatus, I haven't been there all year.

BigTen
10-16-06, 07:05
Has anyone had a recent session with her?

Has her service level and attitude inproved?

Call Me Booger
10-16-06, 17:21
Booger,
Not only is Jodi mean, she gave me a case of the crabs once. Just from dry-humping on her sofa when her parents were gone for the weekend. And you're right, Dora is the exchange student and barely speak any English. I do know she doesn't speak french though.

Yeah, I would like to teach Dora greek....